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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: LIBERAL INTOLERANCE
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 17:20:18 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA

In article <Btr5w3.6pp.1@cs.cmu.edu> alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:

>Please, call the whining Republicans "Republicans". Conservative approach
>to the way things should be run is a philosophy not an affiliation with
>the bumbling idiots (who by the way ARE NOT conservatives) who have defrauded
>their way into the White House (I wonder if lying to the people to get
>elected is an impeachable offense). 

Lying to the people is evidence that the candidate has what it takes to run
the nation, and should thus be viewed as a solid plus during election
campaigns. After all, if a candidate, like Washington, "could not tell a
lie", he'd probably find it impossible to survive modern world politics.

Don't overlook the reality that the public _expects_ the candidates to lie
to them - hell, who wants to hear the truth? (In Canada, where politicians
have absolutely _NO_ control over the economy, since the debt is held
offshore, voters flock to the assholes who "promise" to "reduce the debt"
and "turn things around" from the way the 'bad guys' left them.. utter
nonsense, of course, but who would vote for an honest man?)

>stealing "conservative" label for himself. Bush is a plasticied, unprincipled,
>unthinking, societal parasite on the body of the Republican party and the 
>United States. Bush is also dangerous, his machiavellian approaches to
>suppression of dessent within the Republican party could very well spill
>over into the general politics. 

I rest my case - he's the ideal candidate for an American electorate that
isn't remotely interested in hearing "truth" from political critters.

-- 
"November 3, 1943, Code Name: Erntefest, Harvest Festival. Seventeen
thousand Jews, rounded up after the final collapse of the Warsaw Ghetto,
were machine-gunned. The victims were lined up in front of open ditches
which they had dug for their own graves." [Maidanek KL. Sachar]
From: utopia@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: warning
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:06:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:peg:606300047:000:2524
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!utopia    Sep  1 12:06:00 1992


Cc: semper
WARNING.
Every thought and move you make is controlled by the Government.
Public transport is mind controll.Daily itineraries and schedules
are plotted by the system. Your every move is known and
watched.Roads and petrol are dictated by the Govt.Automobiles are
control. Any forms of alternative transport including walking will
not be tolerated, you will be terminated when caught..Nuclear
waste is a reality, and is the nucleus ofevery light bulb. All
learning is formulated and propogated to mind wash. All facts are
lies. Learning is enforced social conditioning extricating human
feelings and compassion. Education teaches 2 meanings for living;
both false.  Christianity and money are the meanings for living
The structure of society is Christianity. The Govt is God. All
prayer is dedication to the system of God. The Bible is a
beaurocratic hand-book. Compulsory prayer is every day at 7am and
11pm at  your local church. Electory roll shall also be called and
people abstaining from pray will be terminated.  Work is mind
control. Music is mind control. Art is mind control. Drugs are
mind control.All water resources are drugged. All food is
artificial - any variation  from the man made labratory diet is
dangerous. Natural food resources are poisoned by the Govt. Self
sufficiency is illegal. Single room occupancy is illegal. Urine
tests will be performed daily by your room mate. All creativity is
futility in the quest of artistic fullfillment. All forms of
communication - Television, Literature, Music, Art, and
Telecommunications are Govt censored. Censorship is illegal and
will not be tolerated. All thought is Government provoked and
controlled. All housing is Govt owned and controlled.  Living on
the streets will not be tolerated. All spys shall continually
guide by example and enlighten you of your destiny. Your destiny
is financial endevour and ultimately success.  Time is dictated by
the Govt. All law is bible based and sworn by God.The police act
with force and judgement for effective ellimination of crime.
Prisons do not exist. The police are your family and friends.
Report any suspected criminal activity to the police. Love and
affection must be publicly displayed with-in  compulsory arranged
marriages. Love shall only be love of money.  All shopping will be
done for you-all necessities are provided; Proof must be shown
when requiring any extra life support. Equality is based on
financial status. Report any suspicion of hethen sub-culture.
Black will not be tolerated.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: hanlon@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Casey Hanlon (SVER))
Subject: liberal intolerance
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date:  1 Sep 1992 09:24 EST  

Cindy Davies writes:
>...lets try something a little different.

I for one agree.  The democrats have controlled the house of representatives
for over 30 consecutive years.  It's time for a change!  As far as candidates
for president go, clinton doesn't represent change, but simply more of the
same.  The man hasn't held an honest job in his entire life.  And now to
a subject more in line with what this news group is all about.

I am almost ready to conclude that there is a media conspiracy prevent
the american people from knowing that there are alternatives to bush
and clinton.  I haven't seen a single segment on the nightly news concerning
any of the other candidates.  I did see a replay of a speech given
by Andre Marrou, the libertarian candidate, on CSPAN.  However, that
has been the extent of the coverage.  Of course, good old Ross P. doesn't
count since he never was a candidate and the only reason the media covered
the clown was because he was rich.

Casey Hanlon 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.guns
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: Killing bers with handguns  (Was:  Re:  A random thought)
Organization: The Cat Factory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:53:13 GMT


My thanks to all who replied to my comments (roughly, "hunters aren't
ecologists").  I don't agree with all of you, but you've broadened my
perspective and given me some things to think about.

For the record, I'm not absolutely against hunting, especially for food.
(I do think hunting endangered species is inexcusable and shooting former
zoo animals for trophies is outright grotesque, but that's a different
discussion).

I don't hunt as I have neither desire nor need to do so.  I make no claim
that breeding and slaughtering food animals is any more or less humane
than hunting.  Our society as a whole is responsible for the destruction
of many predators and, I guess, doing something to control the resulting
prey overpopulation is better than doing nothing.

As usual, there are no easy answers.

Well, as one of my co-workers just said, this group takes a lot of time,
mostly repeats itself and I'm too busy to keep up right now.  Time to
unsubscribe for a while.

Bye.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: Re: Ref: DEATH TO THE CLONES!
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:16:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: VALIS

sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:

>A semi-tangential and not altogether irrelevant question for Gary:

>Have you heard from Zebra?



>------------
>KING FELIX
>------------


>The Empire Never Ended.

>SjG for PkD who currently Knows.

>-- 
>_________Pratice Safe .Signature! Prevent Dangerous Signature Virii!_______
>Guildenstern: Our names shouted in a certain dawn ... a message ... a
>              summons ... There must have been a moment, at the beginning,
>              where we could have said -- no. But somehow we missed it.
*****
HUH???

-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: TELEVISION: The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Enslavement
Date: 30 Aug 92 11:29:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Brilliant!!!  I am going to save this, and present it as evidence at
Goerge Bush's trial for treason...Along with the menbers (still living) of
the Warren Commission...

-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak)
Subject: The Necronomicon and H.P. Lovecraft
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:55:08 GMT

I recently checked through some library catalogues, and found, much to
my amazement that the Necronomicon, by Abdul Alhazred, really exists,
and that there is a copy in the Uni. of Boston library.
Previously I thought that the Necronomicon was made up by H.P.
Lovecraft, author of the Cthulhu Mythos stories.
Does anyone know:
	- Are the passages quoted from the Necronomicon (about
shoggoths, the old ones, et cetera) genuine?
	- How much else in Lovecraft's stories is true?
	- What were the circumstances of Lovecraft's death?

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,phl.misc,pa.general
From: cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner)
Subject: Re: rely on science.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:40:15 GMT

In article <ggBZPB1w164w@cellar.org> techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:
>[A bunch of nonsense, deleted out of mercy]
>1) Dr. Dixy Lee Ray, Trashing the planet, Regnery Gateway, Washington D.C. 
>1990.
Wow! I knew our dear ex-Governor would find something to do after fooling
the voters of Washington state into believing she was a Democrat, but I never
guessed it would be writing for an audience of ...
A
>2) National Oceanic and atmospheric Adminstration scientist Shaw liu
>
>------
>techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
>The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184

Birchers!!

But now that I see it, it all makes perfect sense!


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From: techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,pa.general,phl.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:01:55 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Acid Rain
ENVIRONMENTALISTS CLAIM: According to the EPA,byproducts produced from the 
burning of fossil fuels in industrial plants and from automobiles have caused 
acid rain that harms forests,lakes, streams and wildlife.
SCIENTISTS RESPOND:In 1981, the Reagan Adminstration created the National 
Acid Precepitation Assesment Program (NAPAP). After a ten year study costing 
the taxpayers $600 Million, NAPAP concluded that industrial and automotive 
use of fuels had not caused acid rain. In another study prepared for the U.S. 
Department of Energy in 1989,, Dr. Edward Krug determined that acidic lakes 
in the North East had been acidic in pre-industrial times and their present 
acidity was not caused by human activity.
sources: 1) National Acid Precipitation Assesment Prograam, 28 Volumens, U.S. 
Department of Energy.
2) Edward Krug, PhD., Illionos State Water Survey
    As we have shown, and as could be shown by citing a great many more 
scientific authorities, numerous claims put forth by environmentalists and 
given credence by the nation's (left wing liberal biased, I might add) media 
are false. In like manner, scary scenerios painted by environmentalists 
regarding deforestation, biodiversity, population, nuclear power, hazardous 
waste, etc. can also be shown to be without factual basis.
Next: Rely onnscience draws conclusions.

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The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:10364 alt.politics.clinton:3442 alt.politics.bush:3413 alt.fan.dan-quayle:3119
From: dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: LIBERAL INTOLERANCE
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:44:06 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <Btr5w3.6pp.1@cs.cmu.edu> alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:

> [...]
> Republicans HAVE to loose this election
> for two reasons: we need to rebuild the country, they(republicans) need to
> rebuild the republican party. 

Democrats HAVE to loose this election for two reasons: we need to rebuild
the country, and the Democrats need to rebuild their party. 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn Burke)
Subject: Re: A Real-Life conspiracy...
Keywords: conspiracy, Fabrikant, Concordia, science
Organization: York University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:49:02 GMT

geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:

>In article <cburke.715365402@yorku.ca> cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn Burke) writes:
>>Read the releases of Dr. Fabrikant as posted by Dov Bai during the past
>>week.  The Doctor has documented, fictionally or not, the evidenciary
>>accounting of unversity and research fraud that lead him to last weeks
>>multi-murders.  Fascinating reading!

>It's also a good lesson in how the paranoid mind works.

Are you so sure that the guy was merely paranoid?  He's seems so coherent
and ableto justify his position.  Certainly not all people who see
evidence that there is an active conspiracy somewhere are wrong.  The doctor
was able to offer transcripts of other profs admitting that there was a 
conspiracy-like atmosphere in the mech eng department of Concordia.  And
Fabrikant was on the way to jail for trying to speak out about it.

You can find his stuff in sci.research, posted there by Dov Bai.  And 
apparently someone has collated the entire set of postings at:
	
	davros.acs.ohio-state.edu  pub/fabrikant.txt

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From: ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Masons
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:22:09 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1715@grivel.une.edu.au> cmunday@neumann.une.edu.au (Craig Munday) writes:
>Could anyone tell me about the Freemasons?  It seems like a massive
>orginisation, yet it is almost never spoken about.

     I moderate the Masonic Digest mailing list, which can probably
help you.

     To subscribe, send me mail at ptrei@mitre.org

					Peter Trei
					Senior Warden (Master Elect)
					Wilder Lodge
					Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
					Leominster
					Massachusetts

Disclaimer: People who thing this has something to do with my employer 
	    probably have other problems as well.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: The Necronomicon and H.P. Lovecraft
Organization: Weasels Overcome with Dinge Anonymous
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:56:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.085508.16312@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:
>I recently checked through some library catalogues, and found, much to
>my amazement that the Necronomicon, by Abdul Alhazred, really exists,
>and that there is a copy in the Uni. of Boston library.
>Previously I thought that the Necronomicon was made up by H.P.
>Lovecraft, author of the Cthulhu Mythos stories.

It was made up by Lovecraft.  Some knob wrote his own pulp-paperback 
Necronomicon in the 1970s... I've heard from several people that it 
sucks rather badly, but I've never actually looked at it.

>Does anyone know:
>	- Are the passages quoted from the Necronomicon (about
>shoggoths, the old ones, et cetera) genuine?

Well, genuine in the sense that this guy probably read all of Lovecraft's
books and cut and pasted all the great pod people stuff into his own book,
but nothing more than that.

>	- How much else in Lovecraft's stories is true?

Extremely little, probably.

>	- What were the circumstances of Lovecraft's death?

I don't know.  I would guess that he got old, and sick and died.  I don't
recall anyone ever saying anything particularly strange about his death...
-- 
Jerry Kuch (t-gerldk@microsoft.com) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
  "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
   Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet." - Montgomery Burns

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: WANTED: the Buke's RepCon Speech
Summary: We dont' get that one
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:13:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <MICHAEL.92Aug29224718@paul.bu.edu>, michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.175141.14244@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>   =In article <l9smtiINN4i2@aludra.usc.edu>, sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:
>   => Hi.
>   => 
>   => I remember seeing a copy of the Buchanon's speech to the Republican
>   => Convention posted here. Did anyone keep a copy? Could someone mail
>   => it to me? I unfortunately lost my copy.
>   => 
> 
>   =I didn't know one had been posted, and my newspaper didn't
>   =show up the day they reported on it.  If someone is e-mailing
>   =a copy, can I get one too?  
> 
> Actually, I did see a copy posted in alt.fan.dan-quayle
> You might try asking there if anybody still has it.
> 

We dont' get that group.  Frankly, I'm amazed anyone does.

marc colten
From: mturner@aris.ss.uci.edu (Matthew Turner)
Subject: Re: Too secret for the US President's eyes?
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: alt
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:25:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.171016.15591@morwyn.uucp>, forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich) writes:
|> ...
|> 
|> 	Anyways, regarding TOP SECRET levels and the such.  I have been asked
|> 	to elaborate on the fact that there are levels of TOP SECRET that
|> 	are above the President.  A friend who was in the military confirmed
|> 	this, and I read about some of the code names in some book (which I
|> 	can't seem to find) somewhere.  Does anyone here have some information
|> 	about it that I can pass on?  (please cite references)
|> 
|> ...

It's called SCI -- Sensitive Compartmentalized Information.  The theory is that everyone with a clearance does not have the right to see everything classified at about the same level of security--just what is relevant to their job.  So when you get a top secret clearance, you don't get carte blanche to see everything.  If a project or file is relevant to your job you are put on a code-word list and through that code word you are able to gain access to the information.  Note, though, that this is not quite 



the same as cryptographic code-words which deal with secured communications...there the story is different and murkier.

There really isn't a level of clearance that is higher--it's just that the information has very limited access.

-Matthion
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Rapture!
From: bpharmon@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:40:42 -0500
Distribution: alt
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <Bu0otK.FF9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond) writes:
>>			  Jesus is coming on
>> 
>>			     Oct 28, 1992
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 		We need an Antichrist first, don't we?


	Pat Robertson.


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From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: how do you start a religion
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:55:12 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

As far as the legal/bureaucratic stuff, I don't know. But otherwise
how one basically "starts a religeon" is:

1) Have a vision.

2) Write a book about it.

3) Declare war on some other religeon, conquer it, and take its place.

-- 
	"Were his solid black square paintings really,
	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Too secret for the US President's eyes?
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:15:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.111033.7362@cas.org>, jac54@cas.org () writes:

|>>In article <1992Aug24.190347.8906@morwyn.uucp> forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie
|>Aldrich) writes:
|>>
|>>      There are a few levels of Top Secret, as we know, that are above
|>>      the President.
|>
|>
|>	Another idiot.  There are no levels of Top Secret above the President.
|>	What happens is that material classified as Top Secret (rather
|>	ungrammatical, it should be Most Secret) is divided into compartments
|>	to which an individual will be given access on the basis of their
|>	need to know.  For example, it is necessary for the radio operator
|>	of a P-3 Orion to have access to the codebook for secure communication,
|>	the pilot has no need to know this and there is no way on this
|>	earth that the pilot can get the radio operator to give him the code
|>	book without near as dammit being court-martialed.  The President
|>	also has no need to know this so he wouldn't have access either.
|>
|>	Similarly, relevant people in the Navy would need to know about
|>	a new sea-mine developped by a potential adversary.  The Air Force
|>	generally avoids water and they would not be given that information,
|>	unless they got it as junk mail (It happens, I got something like
|>	that once.).

In the UK there are plenty of things that the Prime Minister is pecificaly
barred from seeing. These include all the papers belonging to the last
administration and any info on opposition politicians picked up by MI5/6 (This
may be picked up legitimately in the case of other investigations ie plot to
assasinate MP). I would guess that there are similar things that the President
is not going to be told however much he demands them.


--

Phill Hallam-Baker