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From: shepard@bcarh535.bnr.ca (Roy Shepard)
Subject: GUS volume under Win3.1
Reply-To: shepard@bcarh535.bnr.ca (Roy Shepard)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:20:28 GMT

I want to use the  amplified  output  port  of my GUS to my  speakers.
Everything works, except that under Win3.1 the volume is too loud.

I know there is a Win3.1 GUS  utility to set the volume, but this only
sets the volume for that session.  I want something that needs only to
be done once.

Anyone know how to do this?  Is there some .INI  setting  that I need?
Any and all help would be appreciated.

Please post, as I don't have email access. Thanks.

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From: Norman.Yen@f7050.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Norman Yen)
Sender: UUCP@ship.wimsey.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PLAYSAM FOR THE GUS
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 09:08:20 -0800


 > > Did you write this?  If so, where are you guys getting the info on
 > > how to program this sucker.  Does anyone know of some good tech
 > > documentation available by FTP from somewhere?
 >  
 > Nope, didn't write it.  Norman wrote it.  Anyways the technical dox
 > are available by anonymous ftp at archive.epas.utoronto.ca
 > (128.100.160.36) in the \pub\pc\ultrasound\submit directory.

I wrote that short sample player. I got the tech. info. from the Ultradox
supplied by Tran and Josh. The tech. info supplied is not 100% accurate. I've
found a few problems with using the routines. You can get some unstable
results with the routines.

Norman Yen


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: Robert_Magee@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Magee)
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:22:55 GMT

The use of headphones is, of course most effective when worn with the head
facing the screen.  I have heard Qsound in action at comdex, and was
completely blown away by the true 3d sound generated by two speakers mounted
on each side of the monitor, and turning your head did not detract from the
effect.  How they do it is beyond me at this time.  I wonder that there isn't
someone from Archer monitoring this group?

Hey Archer, post some of the Qsound parameters, why don'cha?

Bobby Magee
International Portfolio Management
Robert_Magee@mindlink.bc.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Andrew Turner)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 on windows NT --- How to set IRQ?
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:45:33 GMT

turabe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Toshiyuki Urabe) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I want to know how to install PAS-16 sonund card in SB emulation mode
>in windows NT. I've tried many time but now setting of IRQ is
>accepted. I'd like to hear any comment to installint PAS16 to windows
>NT (success or fail or etc)

 SPOILER!
I hear NT is the bestest of games yet to be released.
-- 
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				She lays eggs in the Relative When.
				She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now
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From: dacs@aud2.aud.auc.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: TEST - PLEASE IGNORE
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:15:29 GMT
Organization: Aalborg University Center, Denmark

Just testing..... (sorry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: O-24@sarpih.no (Student Fellesbruker)
Subject: Re: MOD player for big mods? (over 700k)
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:46:24 GMT

In article <s106275.726240097@ee.tut.fi> s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari) 
writes:>In <696@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> dnwangus@flash.LakeheadU.Ca (Dave 
Angus) writes:
>>I ftp'd a monster mod file version of 2unlimited's Twilight Zone.
>>Now, how do I play it?  I tried TRAK, PLAYMOD, PP, WOW and they all
>>puked since they tried to load the file into low memory.  

>>The mod is 725,464 bytes long.  Any ideas?  Should I get an Amiga?

Where did you get it from?

Morten Eriksen / TZ
>Anssi

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Re: GUS - 32 channel STEREO!
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:43:55 GMT

In article <4123@randvax.rand.org>, edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
|> Um, unless someone changed the definition of "channel", the GUS has only
|> two, through which it can play up to 32 digital samples simultaneously,
|> mixed into one channel or the other, or both.  "32 channels" or "16
|> stereo channels" implies that you could hook up 32 speakers, and have
|> a different sound coming from each one.  Heck, I'd be happy to find
|> an inexpensive sound card with just four channels!
|> 
|> Of course, you can argue that "channel" can mean anything Gravis wants
|> it to mean.  But the meaning I'm using here has been in use more than
|> half a century in the world of electronic sound.
|> 
|> 		-Ed Hall
|> 		edhall@rand.org

Channel does, in this case, not mean 'left' or 'right'. In the synth. business
the word channel usually refers to an instrument. If a card has 16 channels, then
that means it can play 16 different instruments at the same time.

Jerry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: u7811091@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Fool)
Subject: Re: Wave Blaster?!?
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:31:05 GMT

The Legacy (stasica@alumni.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
> 
> As I understand, the SB16 is as comparable and better in many respects to a
> GUS.

    only when with the daughter board.

> 
> Does anyone have any information on the Adlib Gold 1000 card?  That sounds
> fairly nice, up to 22bit sampling, IBM-standard midi interface, full windows
                     ^^^^^ 12-bit?   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?
> midi compatibility.. true stereo...  Add-on cards for voice-mail and surround
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^ you mean the OPL-3?
> sound..  But I have no idea on price, availabillity, or support for this
> item?!?!
> kl

> *                       stasica@alumni.cs.Colorado.EDU                      *

    Adlib Gold 1000 is 12bit sampling, general MIDI interface, surround sound 
 and OPL3.  Can't see where is the nice point..  sorry, just my opinion.

									Porco
From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: RE: IS THE PAS-16 A *LEMO
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

ask you mentionsed, that GUS has drivers coming out all the time, new
fixes and everything.  That is one thing I do not like, I own a PAS 16,
and yes, there were 2 official updates, but if the GUS has new drivers
coming out all the time, where do they get the money to send out new
disk to their customers?  Mediavision has sent me my upgrades by FEDEX
to Canada, but for those guys in the states or in Canada, do you d/l the
new drivers from the BBS, or do you actual get a new package?

If the GUS updates are too frequent, then it seems they will have the
stereo-typical :() feedback, just like OS/2 has now.

When you mention OS/2, you mention UPDATE DISKS! in the same sentence!
                                                                                    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: GUS questions and remarks
Keywords: Soundcards, GUS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:00:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.111414@cs.utwente.nl> waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I've tested the GUS out for a couple of weeks now. It seems a very good card. I
>do have some questions, though:
>
>(1) I can't get the GUS working with 16-bit DMA channels (5, 6, 7). I've tried it
>out with QEMM and EMM386, with different DMA buffer sizes and even with a 'clean'
>system (i.e. no drivers). I can use DMA 7 for the DAC but not for RAM, i.e. SET
>ULTRASND=220,1,7,11,5 works o.k., but SET ULTRASND=220,7,7,11,5 does not work
>o.k. The MIDI songs sound terribly! Any clues on how to solve this problem?
>

I, myself, have not had any problems with any of the DMA channels.  I don't
know what your problem could be.

>(2) I have installed the new Windows drivers. I can record and playback .WAV
>samples, but I can't get the MIDI working. I've tried Media Player, Patch Manager
>and WinJammer. Patch Manager gives an empty list of patches, the other are
>playing, but I don't hear a sound! It worked o.k. with the v1.10 drivers. I've
>installed it as described in the readme-file and after that I've copied the
>midimap.cfg and ultrawin.cfg to the \windows\system directory.
>

The ultrawin.cfg file indicates that you installed from a very early set
of installation disks.  The new ones have more patches and new windows
drivers that use ultrasnd.ini instead of ultrawin.cfg.  Also, ultrawin.cfg
should not be in your windows directory, even with the old drivers, I
believe.  Just leave it in your ultrasnd or ultrasnd/windows directory.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: primus@netcom.com (Robert keng)
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:15:32 GMT

ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
: Gravis has already delivered once with the GUS.  If you've heard this card
: at, say, half-potential (currently, there's nothing pushing the envelope),
: you will know what I mean.  Also, the technology in GUS3D has been
: already implemented by another Canadian company.  I think the method is
: called QSound.  I don't see why Gravis can't pull it off.  
: 
: Phat.

		Ahh, but I do know what the GUS can do. I'm impressed, to
say the least (why do GUS owners always use the line "Don't talk about it unless
you've heard it" when speaking to non-Gravis owners?!?). The technology behind
the Ultrasound is really nothing new: I think what the break through is, and I
believe alot of people agrees with me, is that Gravis is able to deliver such
a quality product at an "affordable" price (note I quoted affordable, as it's
a rather ambiguous term).

		But back to the Gravis 3D again. There's just not enough
concrete information on this product right now, hell, most of us still don't
know whether the difference between it and the Ultrasound is hardware or
software (I still don't see how they'll be able to do it by a driver alone...).
There are NO existing specs on this product right now, and all this hocus pocus
about what it COULD be really makes it sound like vaporware. Heck, the reps
at Gravis can brag about it all they want, but like I said before, I'll believe
it when I see (or hear) it......

		BTW, the GUS is quite nice, and I probably will get one once
there's enough commercial support for it in it's native mode (this SBOS stuff
is really going nowhere. Let's see some more native support here!). I need a
solid, efficient card to replace my SBPro (late SBPro, as I don't have it no
more :-)) as my premier game card :-) I'll use my Multisound to handle all the
other stuff.....

		

-Rob

primus
primus@netcom.com
From: u7811091@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Bibo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS or SB16?
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:54:12 GMT
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

EE U780935 (yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw) wrote:
: Summerize.
:    Buy Pro Audio Spectrum 16 instead of GUS or SB16.
:

    Are you sure?  In Taiwan here is seldom a GUS, and PAS16 costs
 8000NT..  and from my observation from this news group,  GUS is
 far better than PAS16, except PAS16 is a complete system now.

							Porco

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: SB Win drivers and Norton Desktop 1.0
Reply-To: ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:48:22 GMT

Anyone experienced this problem?  

I was using Windows 3.1 with the Soundblaster 2.0 drivers without any 
difficulty.  Then I put in Norton's Desktop for Windows 1.0 and set it up
as the primary shell.

Now when I start up windows a box pops up and says : SB 2.0 driver :
This driver needs a newer version of Windows 3.1.  (it repeats this dialog
box twice before loading the norton desktop).

I tried going back to the SB 1.5 drivers, same result.  They only work
when I disable the Norton Desktop.  

Anyone have a fix?  Or is there a new version of the desktop, and how much 
is the upgrade price?

Alex
From: PAULR@hacks.arizona.edu (Paul Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS16 is no sound in Under World II..... help!!!
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:08:54 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Camelot System (Excalibur)
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.05

In <1993Jan7.055518.10306%yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw> yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw writes:

> Although I have run UWSOUND.EXE to adjust the Sound Blaster option to
> IRQ 5, Addr 220, DMA 1. and UWSOUND.EXE says that Sound Blaster exists,
> I can't still hear any sound/voice in Origin Ultima UnderWorld II.
> 
> When I run UW.EXE, it says that "Sound System Initializion Failed" (I forgot
> what it really displays). And no sound.
> 
> Can anyone here please help me ?????
> 
> PAS-16 is the best audio card. Ya!


I've been using a PAS-16 with Underworld II quite successfully for about a week
and a half.  I noticed that I've not encountered any of the sound parts (I
played some of the voc files and they seem to be from later in the game.  Some
guy talking about his new worlds and how he rules them...)  In my autoexec file
I have the command SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T3, which seems to have cleared up
many of the problems with games seeking a Soundblaster.  You will, of course,
need to have the 7 in my I7 statement be a 5...  The "sound system init fail"
would seem to me to be indicative of a failed interrupt seek - somehow it's
looking on the default (7) and not finding you, who are on 5.  Hope this
helps...
 
      Paul Richards
      paulr@hacks.arizona.edu
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:58:19 EST
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS registration card

In article <1993Jan11.143400.8381@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr
D Ingles) says:
>
>In article <C0JwuK.B0o@cs.mcgill.ca> snowdog@cs.mcgill.ca (Rodney CHANG)      :
>writes
>>Hi, I recently bought GUS from a local dealer, but I found no
>>registration card inside.  Is there suppose to be one?  If so, how can
>>I register w/o a registration card?  Thanks in advance.
>
>I got a registration card, filled it in and sent it off. I haven't received
>anything since !!!!
>
>I think that Gravis's Customer support is pretty garbage sofar.
>
>Davei

Well, don't think that their customer support is bad for THAT reason.  There
are plenty of reasons to assume that customer support is bad, but this isn't
one of them.

The actual reason that you haven't received anything yet is because Gravis has
contracted a third party to create the general MIDI patches for the GUS, and
they have not been completed yet.  Also, the Windows driver isn't fully
functional yet, and Gravis is sending out that driver to registered users as
well, so just hang on for a while.  If you have access to FTP, you already
have all the drivers that Gravis has, and someone will probably put the full
patch set up on epas when it is out, so don't worry about Gravis not getting
back to you.

BTW, I've had NO problems with Gravis customer support OR with their tech
support (both over the phone and over the network)

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
         <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: fisher@decwin.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Curiosity about what low-level things GUS can do
Reply-To: fisher@decwin.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:38:29 GMT


In article <C0ExAM.4vK@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca
(Phat H Tran) writes:
|>
|>In article <1993Jan5.160120.21526@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
|>fisher@decwin.enet.dec.com () writes:
|>>
|>>Some questions about how GUS works.  If anyone can legally answer, I'd 
|>>appreciate it.
|>>
|>
|>I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge and let
|>others correct me and/or fill in the blanks where they can.  I don't
|>have the SDK, and hence, am not bound by any non-disclosure agreements,
|>so yes, what I'm doing is legal. :)

So how did you find out?  Just by poking and hacking, or is there a better way
that the rest of us can use?

|>
|>>Does the GUS board have a programmable processor?  I imagine it as a CPU
|>that
|>>reads an "instruction stream" from GUS memory, where the instructions are
|>stuff
|>>like "Play the following data at frequency x.", and "loop back to address
|>y".
|>>But we know there are other things it can do like arithmetically mixing
|>data
|>>streams.  So what can it do?
|>>
|>
|>The GUS's processor is not programmable.  It has a fixed set of commands
|>that must be issued by the CPU.  That is, you cannot upload a program to
|>it and have it execute the sequence of instructions on its own.  However,
|>the card's hardwired commands and functions are quite powerful, it would
|>seem.
|>

Anyone remember vector processing displays like the DEC GT40?  (Showing my age,
I guess).  I was imagining the CPU command to the GUS being sort of like
"execute this display list" where the display list was really mostly a bunch
of samples with a couple little flag words to say loop back.  But anyway...

Can you give any clue as to what commands are available?  I would still think
that, for example, you would have to be able to have a "loop back" command in
the patch itself, and not have to have the CPU take an interrupt at the end
of the sample and command the GUS back to the beginning.  It also must be
capable of some sort of multiprocessing in the sense that it has to be able
to play back 32 streams of samples pseudo-simultaneously, presumably by doing
some sort of DSP to mix them. 

Thanks for the other info, too.

Burns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: Re: IS THE PAS-16 A *LEMON* ???
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:00:30 GMT

bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob) writes:
>   I bought my brother a PAS-16 soundboard for Christmas.  Since then,
>   I have read a lot of articles on Usenet (mostly in the games.pc group)
>   where people are having lots of trouble and are fed up with it.
>   What good is this board if many of the new (and expensive) games
>   won't work right with it?
> 
>   Is the PAS-16 a lemon?  He hasn't opened it yet, so should I return it
>   for him and get him a GUS board?  I hate to think that I gave someone
>   some trashy merchandise for a present.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do not return your PAS-16 card!

Here is a fact.... Few use Sound Blaster16 and few use GUS, so few troubles
asked here. But the fact doesn't say that there is no problem with SB16 and 
GUS.

In fact. The PAS-16 has almost no problem since I use it. Almost question
asked here about PAS16 are solvable and EASY solvable. But GUS and SB16 are not.

SB16 even have a hardware problem.

So, choose PAS-16 is RIGHT!!!!

I will kill you if you return PAS16!!!!  :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mroy@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (matthew roy)
Subject: Gus help
Keywords: Doesn't work in DOS
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:29:53 GMT


Well I bought a GUS yesterday and ran into a snag.
After instaling the card and the software I ran setup
I thought everything was working fine.  It talked to me as
I made my selections, and I thought it was working.
I then went to Windows, and loaded the drivers.
I played with the MIDI and WAV stuff and everything worked fine.
It's when I go back to DOS that I get into trouble.
I try running the DOS programs and my computer completely locks up.

Does anyone know why the GUS works in Windows, but not in DOS?
Is my software bad or do I have IRQ trouble. 
Any help is apprecited.

Thanks,

MATT
From: rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Sample player/recorder needed.
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:39:28 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Experimental Psychology, Oxford, England.

Hi all.  I am looking for a PC sound card which supports recording
and playing sounds from its own memory *without* using up the PC bus
with DMA transfers and the like.  Our sound quality requirements
aren't high, we probably only need 8 bit samples at 8 KHz, but we
need at least four 1/2 second samples.

Once sounds are stored in the card's memory we would like to be able
to trigger them with a few simple `out' instructions.

Thanks in Advance,

Ray.

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