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From: billj@seas.smu.edu (Snugglupagus)
Subject: Re: Strat pricing
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:04:44 GMT

In article <spray.712342327@convex.convex.com> spray@convex.com (Rob Spray) writes:
>In <Bs3rxy.79y@quake.sylmar.ca.us> jeff@quake.sylmar.ca.us writes:
>
>>Also, a friend told me that Guitar Center recently offered *American*
>>Strats for less than $300 - I can't confirm this, must've missed
>>that radio ad...  makes me wonder, though.
>
>Mexico is in North America.  Maybe that was "american Strats"
>                                             ^
>
>btw, the Guitar Center in Dallas often has Strats for $299.
>

the last time the guitar center in dallas had a "blowout", they
advertised "standard strats" for $299.  after calling, i found that
they weren't AMERICAN standard strats, as they were made in mexico.
the AMERICAN standard strat was priced at $499, and the plus was $599.


snugglupagus
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Ibanez RBM Voyager
Originator: marc@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:57:45 CDT


Hi People,

Does anyone have any opinions (good or bad) on the Ibanez RBM Voyager
series of guitars?  I've decided it's about time I forked out a few
quid on a new axe, and this one looks real cute!

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: very thin, flat pickups
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:51:50 GMT

help!!

i have a wonderful late 1920's kalamazoo archtop that is a dream
to play.  this thing begs for a sweet magnetic pickup near the
fingerboard to get that fat, jazz sound.  the trouble is that the
guitar was built before anyone ever thought about pickups, and there
is very little clearance between the body and strings where the
pickup ought to go (about 1/4" to 5/16").  i've looked long and hard
for a COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE pickup that would fit there without me
having to hack a hole in the top (perish the thought), but i can't
seem to find anything thin enough.  one guitar tech suggested to me
that i get a fender jazzmaster pickup and strip it down to just the
coil, without the cover, but even that is too thick to fit under the
strings.  any ideas?
    i realize that some of you will suggest various piezo pickups,
but unless there have been some incredible technological breakthroughs
recently, i doubt whether these will give me the sound i want (a thick
grant green sound).  if i was willing to risk getting someone to saw a
hole in this baby, my problems could be easily solved, but you just
don't tell the most beautiful woman in the world she needs plastic
surgery (apologies for the sexism, but this chunka wood brings it out
of me).
    i am game for any cockamamie idea that gets the sound and saves the
axe.  i can build one, having built many pickups from scratch, but the
right size of magnet is a bugger to get hold of, so i'll try
commercial routes first.

mark hammer

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ericj@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Jorgensen)
Subject: Re: David Gilmour (Anymore Fans?)
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:42:41 GMT

melissa@voyager4.sdsu.edu (Melissa ) writes:
> ericj@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Jorgensen) writes:
> :                                                     -- Pink Floyd, by Miles
>                 
> 		I'm glad that someone besides me has
> 		read this book.  I was just about to
> 		post everyone that I think this is
> 		mandatory reading for any Floyd fans
> 		out there.
> 		I was really surprised at the number
> 		of responses that my original post
> 		has generated. I thought that interest
> 		in the band had waned since the depar-
> 		ture of Waters. Everyone that I've asked
> 		seems to think that Dave Gilmour can't
> 		make the music the way that Roger did.
> 	                                   ...Michael Whittington.

Heheh... I read another one, too, which is the one that should REALLY be
required Floyd Reading.  I don't remember it's name, but it was a yellow
Wall-like cover and had some really in-depth text about the post-wall (and
some info about pre-wall) timeframe.  The _Pink_Floyd_ book I mentioned only
mentions up to The Wall, not The Final Cut, or the split, or anything ...

Such as the original plans for the Wall concert - giant, inflatable, portable,
worm-shaped cancert halls.  :)  "All you need to do is follow the worms..."


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From: yy@cbnews.cb.att.com (alan.j.lapenn)
Subject: Re: Question about epiphony les paul
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:09:54 GMT
Summary: Les Paul Epiphone

In article <1992Jul27.151844.14366@wam.umd.edu>, peugh@wam.umd.edu (General Napolean) writes:
> 
>   I've got an Epiphone Strat, and it's a decent guitar.  It's a pretty durable
> guitar, and i've been reasonably happy with it.  I haven't played the Epi Les
> Paul, so i can't tell you how good it is, but the price, 399 isn't that bad.
> That's about the same as it goes around here(Victor Litz has it for $379).  
> Every now and then I see it on sale for around $330, so if you can wait you 
> might save yourself some money and wait for a sale, but if you want the guitar
> now, $399 isn't too bad.

This really makes me feel good, I picked up an Epiphone Les Paul at an auction
(new) for $150.00, guess I got a good deal. I love this guitar it has a very
nice feel to it and a very warm tone.

-- 
Alan LaPenn      att!mvuxd!yy          .signature not found!
From: jponzo@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Fender HRR Series
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:00:34 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

  Can anyone tell me about the Fender HRR series guitar. I'm
trying to decide whether to buy a Fender Floyd Rose Classic or the
HRR.


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From: timster@brahms.udel.edu (Timothy P Brennan)
Subject: Wah Wah noise: How to Fix
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:47:33 GMT

I saw postings on this subject not too long ago, but since my Wah Wah wasn't
broken I didn't take much notice.  But unfortunately my bandmate's Wah Wah
pedal has started to sound like kind of like a wind machine when he uses it.
It's a Jim Dunlop Cry Baby.  The noise is especially noticeable on the dirty
channel and get's louder as he pushes down to the treble side.  Thus producing
a wind-like effect (Which actually sounds kinda neat, although not quite
appropriate for most situations).  If somebody knows a simple remedy for this
problem please post/email.  I don't know much terminology about electronics
and parts so be specific.

Thanks
Tim       timster@brahms.udel.edu



Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mikem@col.hp.com (Mike McTigue)
Subject: Re: Guitar Setup [help!]
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:57:50 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

fpeabody@nyx.cs.du.edu (Darren Jacobson) writes:
> 
>     I'm a guitar player who's frustrated with the sound of my current
> setup.  I have an Ibanez Roadstar II strat clone running through a Crate
> G40C amplifier.  On the clean channel, things sound pretty good. [although
> I hooked a Fender Strat up to it for comparison to the Ibanez and the
> Strat sounded much better!]  The distortion channel, however, sounds very
> grainy and scratchy, possibly due to the fact that this is *not* a tube
> amp.  I can't play on this channel for very long, as nausea soon develops.
> 
>      I guess I want a guitar/amp setup that will sound good and be
> versatile.  On the clean channel, I want a bright, chiming sound. [The
> strat I tried out sounded great]  On the distortion channel, I want
> variety.  I like the tone of Eric Johnson's lead, Van Halen's rhythm and
> lead, SRVs rhythm and lead, and Metallica's power crunch rhythm.  Is there
> a setup that will give me this?  [I sense laughter already.  "Ha!  He
> wants all those tones?!?  Fat chance!"]  I know absolutely nothing about
> amplifiers and very little about guitars [ie. what pickups give what type
> of sound, how active pickups differ from passive pickups, etc.]
> 
>     Can anyone lead me in a general direction?  What amps or guitars might
> fulfill my needs?  I play almost all styles of music [blues, jazz, heavy
> metal] so versatility is a key.
> 
>     Thanks in advance for all replies...  a
> 


Yeah, I have a Crate practice amp and the "dirty" channel is very
bad. I use a Boss ME-5 effects unit and use the various overdrive
effects in it. Sounds infinitly better. My main amp is a Fender
Pro with a 15"  JBL D-130. I use a 73 Strat and a new Carvin.

I would suggest two things.

1) Get a distortion effects you like. Lots of folks swear by the 
   Ibanez tube screamer (I think it sounds very good) or something
   like a Real Tube unit, etc. Tube screamers are in Musicians friend
   and I've heard you might get them even cheaper at Sam Ash, etc.

2) The speakers in my Crate amp just doesn't make it. Takes my strat
   clean sound and loses the low end and high end. I had to hot wire
   the bright circuit in the amp just to make it acceptable. I would
   look at putting better speaker(s?) in your amp. Some sort of 
   bigger magnet structure beast such as EV, JBL, Carvin, Celestian (sp?),
   etc.

Good luck!
From: greenspa@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: where has alt.tab gone???
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:26:26 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

hey, what happened? i turned around and all of a sudden a.g.t. is empty!!!
Is it just me, or my site, or is this the twilight zone??? Halp, I'm
lost w/o my favorite newsgroups.....
                       signed, feeling lost in sonoma
From: dsschuh@sdrc.COM (Tracy Schuhwerk)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: DigiTech RP-1
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:06:43 GMT
Organization: SDRC


Does anyone have any custom patches for the DigiTech RP-1 they would
like to share?

I just picked up an RP-1 the other night and spent hours playing with
the factory presets.  Now I'd like to mess around with custom patches
and see what other people have come up with so far.  

The RP-1 sounds GREAT!  If you haven't had a chance to mess with one
of these boxes yet, check it out!

		-- Tracy Schuhkwerk
                   (dsschuh@sdrc.com)

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: dbn@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Guitar Synths
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:11:38 GMT

Eric Iverson writes:
> 
>>I'm conducting an informal survey of guitar synth users and am solicting
>>for info from anyone experienced even slightly in MIDI guitar.
>>...
>>all correspondence welcome - please email.  I'll post a summary
> 
>     I tried to send a reply via email and it bounced.
>     Did anyone else have better luck?
> 
>     --Eric

Post it to the net.  I'm interested, too!!

-Daniel

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rcpage@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT CLAUDE PAGE)
Subject: Re: Rewiring your old tube amp
Originator: rcpage@c00377-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rcpage@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT CLAUDE PAGE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:38:44 GMT


I don't know of any laws restricting this kind of wiring. If it effects 
the power companines impedance it could be a problem but an amp is too small
to create a problem. If it did your amp would have a bigger problem at the 
same time and it wouldn' last long. If you are no sure call the power company.
I'll look into it myself. I have witnessed alot of custom jobs that have 
not caused problems, so there is no need to worry.
From: venky@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (venkatesh.krishnaswamy)
Subject: Re: Casio Midi Guitar Info
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:07:43 GMT

> A few years back, Casio came out with a couple of MIDI electric
> guitars/controllers.  As far as I can recall, there was an
> el-cheapo "toy" model with rubber strings, but there was an
> actual bona-fide, real electric guitar with infa-red sensors (?)
> that worked as a perfectly good MIDI controller and wasn't a bad
> 'lectric axe either.  Does anyone know:
> A) IF they are still made/available
> B) Where I might be able to find one - no stores around me
    > seem to know much about 'em.
> C) What I can expect for a price on one ? Seems to me they
   > were about $550-650 bcak then....
> Any info is much appreciated!
> 
> 
> Mike Fugere
> "No Fancy Sigs here!"

I hunted for a Casio midi guitar recently, with very little
luck. The midi guitar lines you are referring to were 
discontinued about 2 yrs ago and I was told by a Casio rep
that none are available at any dealership in the US. 
After much searching I located a used Casio at Caruso
Music, New London CT -- for $595. I didn't buy it so
it may still be around! Casio is coming out with a 
new line of Midi guitars that will be in the stores
in September. Price : About $1300.

Venky Krishnaswamy
From: holtslander@skyfox.usask.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Bonnie Raitts' open tuning
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:18:18 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

I believe she uses the "standard" delta blues tunings
open G  D G D G B D low to high
- tune low E string down to D
_ tune High E down to D

_ use middle D string as reference
- tune A string down to G

open D  D A D F# A D low to high

-tune E strings down to D using middle D as reference
-tune tune b string down to A (octave above A string- use A as reference)
- tune G down to F# (F# is 4th fret on middle D string)

Good luck -  use a slide( I use a spark plug socket)

Gord Holtslander                when you dance to the blues
HOltslander@skyfox.usask.ca     the drummer owns your soul
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: u320527@sparc19.ncu.edu.tw (Jackie)
Subject: test
Organization: National Central University
Distribution: ncu
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:18:30 GMT

test
From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Musician's Friend and AMS
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:54:53 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

I think my last post turned into a reply instead of a followup, here is
the Number for American Musical Supply......



	1-800-458-4076.


BTW I have this damned number memorized after typing it all morning!!!!!


Enjoy,

Kevin
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon)
Subject: Re: Advice on Boogie Studio .22 amp wanted...
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:44:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Jul29.184632.11997@unixg.ubc.ca> dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller) writes:
>In 6598 Robyn Landers wrote:  
>"      Now I have something shocking to pass along.  I recently
>was in a Boogie delership nearby wer the clerk claimed that the
>Peavey Bravo (all tube, uses those sweet EL84s just like the .2
>sounds so much better than the .22 for lots es money.
>I haven't heard one, but it's worth investigating."
>
>(Sorry for dropouts. My buffer's fault.)
>
>This discussion has been running around for quite a while now. Peavey seems
>to have really stepped up the quality and sound on their tube amps, such
>that the Bravo and Classic amps rival or surpass similar Fenders and even
>Boogies (and approach Dumbles?). And cheaply, too. What gives? Is there
>a company actually doing something right for a change?
>
>      :=:=> Derek K. Miller                 dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca
>      Researcher, Alma Mater Society        thegrodd@tz.ucs.sfu.ca
>      University of British Columbia, Canada
>


	I seriously doubt if Peavy is approaching the *quality* and sound
	of a Dumble. Have you ever listened to a Dumble ? I find this whole
	discussion about Peavey tube amps very intriguing. I too have heard
	many reports of great tone from Peavey classic and others. I for 
	one hope it's true. Somebody needs to build a good tube amp/head for
	around $500.00. I've been building heads/combos using old Fenders 
	because I can pick up a head for $100, and re-work it into a killer
	guitar amp with better tone than anything in the $5-900 range. I've
	done dozens of these mods. Talk about bang for the buck...

	Not to long ago Soldano and I believe it was Yamaha teamed up, and
	came out with an amp. I was not impressed with this amp at all. Seems
	like they just gave Mike a ton of money to use his name. (marketing
	hype) 
	
	I also looked at the new Boogie Dual Rectifier. Alas, another amp
	designed with the thrash rocker in mind. Why doesn't boogie get back
	to designing simple pure tube amps ? Why all the tons of knobs, modes,
	dual 5U4's ? Well, at least they re-issued the MKi. 

	-Tom
	  (A tube purist at heart.)
	

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From: pnisula@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: GRETSCH CHET ATKINS NASVILLE MODEL
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:32:18 GMT


        I have 1964 GRETSCH CHET ATKINS NASHVILLE MODEL (made in U.S.A)
                                        
        in very good condition.Everything is orginal:Hilo-tron bridge,
        pick-ups....Color is just like in David Byrne's video
        "girls on my mind.." (??).
        Question: I like to know,what are music stories askin for
                  similar guitar in U.S.A ?
                  THANKS A LOT !
        !!!( in Finland they asking about 15.000-20.000 FMk)!!!


        Petri Nisula
        Nokia telecommucations
        Finland
        EUROPE
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Improvisation where has it gon
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.214603.4292@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew) writes:
 
>In article <Brp83t.Gvz@cup.hp.com>, balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon) writes:
>> In article <detchay.2.711552049@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY) writes:
...
>> >     Learning Tab and playing a lead break by another guitarist is good
>> >fun and alot of people may be impressed with it.  What I want to know is
>> >what happened to the guitar purists like Jimi Hendrix etc.  who played a
>> >different solo every time they played the same song.  Improvisation to me
...
>>       I like to hear a gutarist that takes a solo and can put something
>>       unique into it. (Although in a cover band, people do expect to hear a
>>       live version of the *original* note for note.) I like to play
>>       blues and jazz, tons of room for improvisation. (music for
>>       musicians) Thats what "playing" is all about not just duplication.
...
>        I dont really care to copy a solo note for note from the source.
>        It really takes the life outta the music for me. A song that has a
 
At the risk of repeating what others have said...
 
To me the fun is not necessarily playing note-for-note or making up
something completely original, the fun is adding my touch--my style--to the
solo. As long as you play with style and taste, some people will
hear you playing most of the same notes as the recording and say
"wow, that was just like the record!" but if you are a lifeless copyist
who plays every note the same but lacks feeling, no one will be as
complimentary.
 
As far as improvising, well sometimes you are insipred and can come up
with something new on the spot. Other times you can come up with new things
to play, but they might not be worth playing.
 
It's much easier for me to play something with my personal touch and phrasing
(which is improvising within certain parameters) than to always try to
improvise my note selection.
 
But making music isn't always about doing the easy things, and sometimes
you just have to force yorself to stand on that creative cliff-edge and
hope that you keep your balance!
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Strat pricing
    <detchay.3.711977565@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:55:51 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <detchay.3.711977565@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.230318.13374@qualcomm.com> dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber) writes:
>>From: dweber@crow.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber)
>>Subject: Strat pricing
>>Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:03:18 GMT
>
>
>> Well some weeks ago I asked for pricing on American standard strats
>>heres what I found in the San Diego area, anyone seen better? Overall
>>comments?
>
>> Moonlight Music (Encinitas, Ca.) Best Price: $550.00 (tax inc/no case)
>
>> Guitar Center (San Diego, Ca.) Best Price: $575.00 (tax & case inc)
>>                 Japanese Vintage reissues: $475.00 (tax & case inc)
>>                     
>> I have visited other dealers, but prices and or selection were too
>>awful too mention.
>> I did find an '83 used Standard Stratocaster with freeflyte trem
>>going for $550.00 (tax & case inc) that I really like. I am not to
>>familiar with this type of trem and would appreciate comments from
>>any of you that may have had dealings with these.
>
>
>>Dan
>
>>dweber@crow.qualcomm.com
>           
>			To all you americans, think yourself bloody lucky.  
>  Here in the great land down-under (Australia)  we have to pay through the 
>nose for an american strat.  A standard without case weighs in at a hefty  
>$1400 .(Aus dollars)  A Jap is closer to you price at about $700.  Amps are 
>pretty hefty as well.  I recently purchased a Marshall Valvestate 8080 which 
>was retailing for $1250, but on a deal I got for about $1100.  How much is 
>the same worth in the US roughly.
>
>			Yours,  Tone.... (deaf)



mail me the 1400, and i'll send you TWO strats, and i'll pay the
shipping... then you'll have one to sell to your friends for, oh
1000 or so, and only have 400 invested in your strat! :)

aash
-- 
aash@{ms.uky.edu|ukma.bitnet|ukpr}    "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
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