HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:40:09 GMT

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>I don't actually know why I'm responding to a posting from New Zealand...
>As if people there actually KNOW anything about American politics, or,
>for that matter, should be sticking their noses into our countries
>political scene...

>As if you would really have the credentials to judge who should and shouldn't
>be in US political office. Leave that to people who know.


HEY!  Who let Ted Kaldis into a.f.d.-q.?  :-) :-) :-)

(Yes, I read the whole "From:" line.  But longtime (and former, such as I)
 readers of talk.politics.misc will get the reference.)

- Patrick Walsh
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Calvin for President (was Re: I'm dragging out the old T-shirt)
Date: 6 Sep 92 21:55:27
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In-reply-to: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz's message of Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:54:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.215423.16446@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs) writes:
>In article <MeaXe4i00io=M4wExk@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Joshua M. Sabloff" <jsa5+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Fergit Bill 'n' Opus... vote Calvin 'n' Hobbes!

>No no no! Reverse the ticket! Hobbes would make a much better president.

Nah -- Calvin would be much more fun.

More funding for space exploration, science and technology, and cool
weapons.  No more mandatory education, gun control, tiresome safety
regulations, or boring family values.  The minimum driving age will be
reduced to 5, and all bureaucrats and school administrators will be
transmogrified into small reptiles...  Much better. :-)

(Much better than Bush or Clinton, at least...)

Anarchocalvinism, anyone?
--
_______________________________________________________________________________

Brian Yamauchi			Case Western Reserve University
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
Subject: Re: Simple Math (Was Re: Quayle Season)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:14:54 GMT

echeverr@scf.usc.edu (5150) writes:

>Where:
>S = Danoe's shoe size
>IQ = WHat's left of Danoe's mind
>h = Danoe's hat size

>Prove:
>S = h / IQ

Gee, and I thought Dan didn't do math!	Kudos!

							--  Michal

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: "Liberal" - A Misnomer
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:53:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.224854.8397@news.uiowa.edu>,
williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>Poor people in urban areas drop out of school and take drugs
>because their schools suck, and their lives seem shitty and hopeless.
>What have you (or the government) done to fix that lately, if ever?

Well, he may have helped elect Dannikins.  Isn't comic relief enough?
Shouldn't a little laughter be enough to inspire monumental acts of
heroism, to light a thousand points of light?


>> This tells me it's
>> time to push the government a little to the right; voting for Bush may
>> not do this, but it will prevent the government from sliding even
>> farther in the wrong direction.
>
>Voting for Bush perpetuates an oligarchy of pussbags.
                                             ^^^^^^^
That's a new one on me!  I like the sound of it, but what does it mean?


>Kent Williams -- williams@cs.uiowa.edu
>"I'm tired of being nice to people who're full of shit" -- Me

I love it!  Forget about taking back the night: let's take back the
last twelve years!


Cheers,
Dhanesh

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: "Liberal" - A Misnomer
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:59:27 GMT

In article <pjs7us@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>,
coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge) writes:
>Voting for Bush is a mandate for a continued slide into oblivion.
>Just listen to him and Our Man Dan talking about the economy over
>the past week or so - they would describe it by paraphrasing the old 
>Maxwell House commercial and likening it to a cup of coffee that's 
>"Full To The Last Drop".


Great slogan!  George and Dannikins keep telling us that the cup
is half full, not half empty; but they don't tell us that the cup
is borrowed from Japan, and they *really* don't want us to ask
what it is we're drinking.


Dhanesh

  Anyone know what Sanka uses for a slogan?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Distribution: usa, na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:53:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.131841.18844@news.uiowa.edu> williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>Oh, and the speech was about 'Family Values.'  He was raving about
>'Hollywood' lying and distorting what he said; claiming that he was
>against single mothers.  He kept talking about 'that one sentence' in
>the speech.  I would tell him (if I could) that a lot of us got the
>impression that he was against single mothers, after seeing clips of
>his speech.

Yup, that's the impression you'd get from a clip of just that one
sentence.  Those of us who heard the whole speech on radio
(commonwealth club speeches are broadcast in many places) didn't get
that impression.  I've seen the clips too; they're a great example of
clever editing to remove context.  That editing is "objective", but
dishonest.

-andy
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Subject: Re: DQ's stale spelling punch line
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:44:00 GMT

Evan Whitney writes:

>Is anyone else tired of hearing Danny Quayl use the following quip:

>"If [so and so] knows so much about [such and such] then I'm a world
>champion speller."

>Is it still as funny the fiftieth time as it was the seventeenth?

I hadn't really thought about it...my vomit reflex had grown so accustomed
to being triggered by the phrase "Win one for the Gipper" that it still
hasn't had time to accept a new trigger phrase.

- Patrick Walsh
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jmb6g@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey M. Bloom)
Subject: Dan flunks out in math
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:20:10 GMT

On "This Week with David Brinkley", Dan Quayle was asked why his estimate
of the number of jobs that will be created under the NAFTA agreement (175,000)
differed from the estimates of the labor secratary (150,000 jobs lossed) and
the AFL/CIO (500,000 jobs lost). Dan disregarded the AFL/CIO estamate as
political and pointed out that the his estimate was net jobs gained and said
that something like "My math might not be perfect, but if we gain
400,000 to 500,000 new jobs  under the NAFTA agreement and you subtract the
labor secrataries estimate of 150,000 jobs which will go to Mexico, then you
get my estimate of net jobs gained."

Exuse me Dan, but 400,000 to 500,000 minus 150,000 is 250,000 to 300,000, not
even close to Dan's figure of 175,000. Can't you do a simple subtraction in
your head.I doubt the Burger King in Ontario which has that part time job
opening would hire you.
From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Let them eat cake
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:32:43 GMT
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In article <BuD19o.DK7@nic.umass.edu>,
jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>
> Of course, I'm just a silly Democrat - I still haven't figured out how
> slashing social programs, health care & education while giving tax
> breaks to the rich benefits the poor.


What makes you think that Dannikins and company
give a fig about benefits for the poor?


Dhanesh
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner)
Subject: Re: Depressing
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:49:13 GMT

marvin@bluemoon.rn.com (Ben Scharp) writes:

>Well, I just all of the people who post here will be ready for Quayle 
>1996! Scary thought but if Bush gets re-elected this November.....quite 
>scary. Time to get that VISA I think.

>Marv

Get real! Even if Bush wins, Quayle will probably not even enter the race in
1996, knowing that he would be resoundingly trounced in the Republican
primaries. I saw a poll of Republican delegates during the convention that
had him way behind Kemp, Gramm and Buchananan as a '96 presidential candidate.

Not that Kemp, Gramm and Buchanan aren't scary enough in their own right.

How old is Baker? I once heard someone talk about how he thought Bush picked
Quayle so that Baker wouldn't have anyone tough to run against in '96.
(Baker, you see, is from Texas, and the President and Vice President cannot
be from the same state. Those old founding fathers wouldn't have it.)
From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: a.f.d.q is a H-wood*lawyer-media-cultural elite front!
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In a recent exchange,
dks@mit.edu (d) and cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (t) write:
  >
d > >Ah, but would you burn a flag?  Better yet, would you burn a flag
d > >in which Dannikins had wrapped himself?  *THAT* is the question.
  > 
t > [...] How do I get my hands on a Dan-wrapper?

Well, if you bring Dannikins, I'll bring a flag and some matches.
That ought to do it, don't you think?


d > >If you were a True Cultural Elitist, you'd know that the real leaders,
d > >the ones who *really* scare Our Boy, are the radical enviro-feminazi
d > >terrorists lurking in kindergartens all over America.
  > 
t > Hush! You know what they'll do to us if they catch us talking
t > about taboo subjects again!

        Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
          I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy
          staff they comfort me.
        Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine
          enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
        Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my
          life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.


Dhanesh
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: what to do with this group after november
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:10:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Davis

Simple. keep the initials, a.f.d.q, but change the focus. Talk about
the joys of cheap ice cream instead. You guessed it, now we'll be

      alt.fan.dairy-queen

Richard
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: A Simple Question
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:55:45 GMT

If George Bush is the next Harry Truman, what is Dan-O?

Chopped liver?

-rob
From: saustin@bbn.com (Steve Austin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Einstein's brain.
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:41:49 GMT
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rkannan@diana.cair.du.edu (PiedPiperAtTheGatesOfDawn) writes:

-> They must be looking for it in the wrong place. Maybe they should
->be searching for it among his golf clubs. This was where he decided to 
->abandon it when he found out that his brain was affecting his handicap.

I realize now how Dan got into university under an affirmative action
program.  At some point he must have been asked if he had a disability.
Dan, reasoning that a disability was liberal-speak for a handicap,
replied truthfully "seven".  What bleeding heart liberal could ignore
such a human tragedy.

	Steve Austin
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From: rsud@sw.stratus.com (Rajiv Sud)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:20:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Brad Green) writes:
> 
> > In article <1992Sep4.233306.14026@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.
> > >No it isn't...   it's "Air Force/Navy/Marine/Army Twoe".
> > 
> > Today CNN reported Clinton was speaking about Patriot missiles flying down
> > chimmneys and through doors.  It was pointed out afterwards that this was
> > the cruise missile and not the Patriot.  Are we going to hear for the next
> > 57 days how a man who wants to be commander in chief can't even remember whic
> > of his weapons does what?  Probably not.
> > 
> 

	Qualye commented that what Clinton refered to as the patriot missle
was a cruise missle. He was wrong as well. The "thing" that flies down chimmneys
is a smart bomb.

..Rajiv
From: browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: worthless comic strips
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:45:34 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <pmm8638@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge) writes:
>In article <t6tn+!q.mvp@netcom.com>, mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>|> 
>|> What do you mean "if"?  Doonsbury regularly features that sort of
>|> humor.  The "invisible George" stuff, the "invisible except for
>|> levitating white feather Danny" stuff, the "In Search of Reagan's
>|> Brain" series.  Trudeau can by hysterically funny, and often is, but
>|> just as often, he spews hatred onto the comic page and calls it
>|> 'humor'.  He seems incapable of being funny about the people he hates.
>
>To be totally fair, Mike, you should have said that *you* find him
>incapable of being funny about the people he hates. Personally, I thought
>the "Reagan's Brain" series was a jewel from beginning to end, and I
>chuckle smugly each time I see either an empty panel or a feather 
>talking, knowing just how much those characterizations irk their namesakes.
>
>Political satire. Ya gotta love it. Except when it hits close to home.
>Which tells you it's effective :^)
>
>
>Don Coolidge
>
>(But I *do* find Uncle Duke boooring...)

I'd also like to point out that Bush *HATES* Trudeau - gets so fuming mad
that he can't speak when a new strip gets everyone talking.  I think its
pretty clear that Trudeau finds Bush to be a nit wit and felt that he did
not deserve to be carricatured.  I also think the invisible man symbolism
is very appropriate for Bush's political stance - he strongly supports whatever
position seems likely to benefit his career - and cynically discards any
opinions and positions that have shown a drop in public approval.

BTW - don't you love watching Bush gack and flail around on the world stage
as he trys to buy votes with random bits of political pork barrel -$ for Floridaone day, a new farm aid package the next, a comprehensive proposal for 
moral purity is certainly in the works.


-- 
Stuart M. Brown                             If you can remain cool when all 
U. of Manitoba, Dept. Plant Science         Around you are in panic,
Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca            Then you surely misunderstand the situation
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Subject: comics, Marayln, etc.
Keywords: creationist propaganda
Reply-To: danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:40:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.151647.21410@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca
(Stuart Brown) writes:
> Hey, lighten up you guys.  This is the funny pages we're talking about here.
> This type of extremist fear-mongering is more appropriate for the religious
> right wing crazies than the self-righteous ultra Politically Korrect crowd
> here on a.f.d.q   

   Wait a minute.  I'm objecting to extremist hate-mongering ON the funny pages
because it's not funny.  You would seem to be making my point.  The hypocricy
watch scores a point to.  Recall Hart's anti-RU486 strip?  This drug may be a
treatment for breast cancer.  The Bush-Quayl social justice machine has it
banned for importation even for research.  In an editorial today Maralyine
Quayl declared "Breast Cancer" to be one of her second lady causes (along with
hurricane relief, *shit*).  One of the current hot topics in breast cancer
research is RU-486.  Is MQ trying to get the ban lifted?  It is to larf.

 
> I mean there is some freedom of expression allowed to an artist, even if 
> that artist has opinions that differ from your own.

   Repeating the conservative propaganda verbatim on the funny pages is not the
work of an artist.  An artist should use his technique to bring out the
strengths and flaws in an idea.  An artist should show new sides of an idea or
object.  Being a phone answering machine for the conservative agenda is NOT
artistic.  In contrast the liberal strips (e.g. Doonesbury) have their own
wierd, original slant on things.  Recall that I am a Republican and a moderate
conservative.  It's just that the GOP has gone nuts lately.  The Iowa party has
a creationist plank and no school funding plank.  In IOWA!?!  (Iowa is
staunchly pro-education, not having an education plank is political suicide
here).

>  I mean the cave-man
> dinosaur gag is common even in Gary Larson's Far Side, and that is the
> most popular strip in every biology lab that I have ever worked in. It is
> the job of the Funnies to be funny, not to teach us about evolution.

   However repeating creationist misrepresentations (lies) verbatim is not
appropriate or funny; it is disgusting.  That strip wasn't even attempting to
be funny.  It was a slam unredeemed by humor or satire.  This isn't a PC issue;
it's a lets-tell-the-truth issue.  Also, this being a.f.d-q you should have
addressed the "Making jokes about Dan Quayle is a sign of insanity" strip.
Where's the humor?  It another verbatim repeat of a lie (Dan Quayle is
competent) thinly disguised.
 
> Stuart M. Brown                             If you can remain cool when all 

Dan (Still in my asbestos tent)
Danwell@IASTATE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Subject: Re: Bush vomit
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:15:40 GMT

Bushita, bushsuru...kinda puts a new face on bushido, too, don't it?

---------

A fanatic is someone who does what he knows that God would do if God knew the
facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
From: michael@adriaan.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Einstein's brain.
Date: 6 Sep 92 10:56:37 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: michael@paul.bu.edu's message of 5 Sep 92 15:54:55 GMT

In article <MICHAEL.92Sep5115455@paul.bu.edu> michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin) writes:
   In article <Bu1wE4.Hy1.1@cs.cmu.edu> alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn) writes:

     =Somewhere in this country there is a fellow with a medical
     =degree who got hold of Einstein's brain after the poor chap died.
     =This medical man from time to time slices off pieces of the brain
     =to find out just what made Einstein a genuis. I wonder whose brain
     =he is going get next? Heh, Heh.

   I hope he doesn't get Quayle's brain, or we may never find out.
   This guy does have Einstein's brain, but he hasn't done anything
   to it for almost 45 years other than watch it rot in a jar.
                    ^^ sorry, that's 35 years, I should know better
   Whenever he's pressed by the media (only once in a very long while)
   he claims that a report will be forthcoming. It's kind of like
   an intellectual Freedom of Information Act (now *there's* an
   oxymoron!). 

   We'd probably do better to let Jeff Dahmer (Dahlmer)
   taste Qualye's cerebrum.
   "MMMMMmmmmmm..... needs a little salt...."

   Chaplin.
--
===========================================================================
Michael Chaplin                    Language is a virus from outer space.
michael@albert.bu.edu                     - William S. Burroughs

The Einstein Papers Project        The opinions contained herein reflect
Boston University                      neither those of the project, 
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.          nor those of Albert Einstein.
From: rone@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: worthless comic strips
Followup-To: junk
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:57:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <t6tn+!q.mvp@netcom.com> mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>What do you mean "if"?  Doonsbury regularly features that sort of
>humor.  The "invisible George" stuff, the "invisible except for
>levitating white feather Danny" stuff, the "In Search of Reagan's
>Brain" series.  Trudeau can by hysterically funny, and often is, but
>just as often, he spews hatred onto the comic page and calls it
>'humor'.  He seems incapable of being funny about the people he hates.

a)  George was made invisible because he didn't have a position.
	He still doesn't have one (of his own).  That's why he remains.
	Or doesn't remain.  Whatever.
b)  ISoRB:  Well, if Reagan couldn't remember, his brain MUST be somewhere
	else.  Presidents don't keep tapes after what happened to Nixon.
c)  Dan the feather:  Eh, what's so offensive about this?

>The "R U 4 stiffing the kid" comment was (1) at least a decent
>pun, and (2) isn't a repeated-until-it's-lost-whatever-humor-
>it-may-once-have-had "joke" like the "Invisible George".

Very few puns are decent.  And the Invisible George joke isn't worn out.  Not
until he gets a handle on the vision thing.

5150
now let's get this out of this froup