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From: colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley)
Subject: Calendars and Brains
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:58:00 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-23-92 23:50
  >popularity.  The woman has her own show on MTV, for God's sake!!!  Even I
  >know this, and I don't even have cable TV.

But what is the viewing age demographics for MTV, more importantly when
the House of Style airs.  Certainly youths know who she is, so non fashion
caring adults don't have much chance right?  Naa... She's on Entertainment
Tonight, People Magainze, Fox specials, married to a male sex symbol, big
posters at Video stores for her exercise video, and in tabloids galore... Hell,
there wasn't a day in the summer when I didn't see Cindy in a Pepsi or Revlon
commercial (I wonder why Revlon didn't plaster her name all over the screen
like Covergirl...)

So from another Canadian like Victor, I aggree with you, not him.  Cindy --
The name not just a face.

JT>[To the net in general]:  Yes, indeed, I am truly astounded by this
  >individual who apparently enjoys nothing more than to wallow in the gross
  >excess of verbosities with which he drowns this newsgroup (but hopefully
  >not others).

What wonders he would do for Canadian/American relations, spawning all that
from the words "I doubt".  Probably a reform party supporter (Canadian
reference for you Canadian illiterates and possible Calgary stereotype.) or
<ack> candidate.
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:41:22 GMT

bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:

>In article <19NOV199200232233@venus.tamu.edu> beh7214@venus.tamu.edu (HEAD, BRYAN EVERETT) writes:
>)Summary:  
>)Date: 19 Nov 1992 00:16 CST  
>)Distribution: world
>)Keywords:  

>Various people write:
>)> 
>)>>pictures for their PS/2 machines, to run as a backdrop under windoze.  Now the
>)>							      ^^^^^^^
>)>Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
>)>outside while you're indoors!  
>)> 
>)>>girls who work there have their own PS/2 running windoze 
>   ^^^^^

>)>Once again, learn to spell...and get a life!
>)>-Doc

>What - no flames about using the word 'girls'?

I usually interchange the two.
-Doc

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From: johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:41:22 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: rossi.ee.uts.edu.au

riaedwards@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (AUDREY EDWARDS) writes:

>In article <johnr.721585353@ee.uts.EDU.AU> johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie) writes:
>>From: johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie)
>>Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
>>Date: 12 Nov 92 16:22:33 GMT

>>riaedwards@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (AUDREY EDWARDS) writes:

>>>One things for certain, whilst I'm as confident as I want to be, I 
>>>certainly would not date a man with an Elle MacPherson calandar on his 
>>>wall! Now, a Paul Klee calandar is different (and for the culturally 
>>>unenlightened, he is not a member of the Chippendales!!!!)   

>>I do not have an Elle PacPherson calendar on my wall. I would
>>like to, but I do not, because it would upset my girlfriend. Does that make
>>me a Dateable Man or a Nondateable Man?

>If you have a girlfriend, then definately undateable!!!!!!!

I am curious to know why you would attach such importance to the
presence of an Elle calendar on a man's wall that you
would decide not to date him on that fact alone. Is this such
a telling indicator about every other aspect of his personality?


I think not...
From: zzekka@unislc.uucp (Zeke Zecca)
Subject: Re: okay okay i'm loved!
Reply-To: zzekka@unislc.UUCP (Zeke Zecca,B2C10,4827)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:06:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.010324.4544@netcom.com> jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!) writes:
>
>Okay you guys!! Okay! I know you all aren't a bunch of pot-slime. :)
>More thanks and kudos to Scott, R A, Brian, Synth, Steve, Kevin,
>Mike, -wat- (I liked your suggestion, btw!), Bill, Darren and more
>kudos to my new friend Craig. Oh, and thanks for your great post,
>Victor. :) You guys are so sweet for helping to turn a horrible
>and disgusting episode into something that is now much easier to
>deal with. Thankyouthankyouthankyou.. all of you.
>
>-Jennifer
>

BARF...   Zekers!
From: SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu (S. Wukovitz)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual harassment on the net??
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:07:45 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Jim Hood sez:

>>From LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu Mon Nov 16 12:57:25 1992
>>Organization: Penn State University
>>[incredibly rude posting deleted]
>You know...  Joke or not, legally that could be considered sexual harassment.
>If that account belongs to a STUDENT, that would definately be grounds for
>expulsion from college.  If that account was from an employee (faculty or
Unfortunately, I don't know if it would here, unless the person harassed
were a member of the Center for Academic Computing staff.  Remember the
James Whitehead posting of about 4 years ago, anyone?  Well, Whitehead
never even lost his account, as far as I know...

In other words, don't hold your breath, folks.  Nobody will do anything
at all to Mr. Long Phamdo, most likely...

-Stephanie
steph@math.cornell.edu and happy to be here :-)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: andy@b30.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski)
Subject: Re: Brains
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:27:15 GMT

In article <1e10iqINNjge@rave.larc.nasa.gov> voyager.larc.nasa.gov (Advisor) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.102525.8843@ac.dal.ca>, egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:
>> made it more obvious that it takes a real
>> stretch of the imagination to believe that Cindy is intelligent.
>
>Not to flame you, but I saw in an interview that Cindy was studying 
>Chemical Engineering as an undergrad.  Having taken that curriculum myself,
>I would say that she couldn't have been an airhead if she did even moderately
>well.  However, she didn't finish so maybe she couldn't hack it or realized
>how much more money she could make as a model.  At any rate, she must have
>done pretty well in high school to have been accepted into that program.
>And from what I've seen on MTV she seems pretty intelligent to me.
>
>

I've gotta throw in my $0.02 worth here...

I knew some girls in college who were very pretty and were obviously
intelligent (minimum requirements for acceptance were pretty strict).
They had no problem doing well in their college courses.  That's called
"book smart."  But when you talked to them, they came across as pretty
stupid or silly.  Maybe this is common sense.  It seems to me that a
person can easily appear to be stupid, but still get terrific grades
in school.

What I'm getting at is, while these supermodels may be appear to be
idiots in interviews, they may also be able to handle themselves very
well in the classroom.  It's a different way of measuring "intelligence."

As a sidebar, someone mentioned that Cindy C took up a chemical engineering
major to qualify for a math scolarship.  How many of you college students
out there know people who have stuck unrelentingly to the major that they
selected at or before there first year of college?  What percentage of 
your friends changed their major within their college career?  While it is
admirable that she elected this as her major, obviously, it isn't really
what she wanted to do.  It just got her into college at the time.

Andy Brezinski
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:36:34 +0100
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?

Roger Tang <gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu> writes:
|
|	 Appearences are what a person is given; personality is what a
|   person does with what they're given.  Static vs. behavioral.
|   Reacting to what a person IS vs. reacting to what a person DOES.

Were there that simple and clear-cut a line between them.  Clearly,
however, appearances is what a person does with what they're given.  If
you think it doesn't take effort to look good and healthy and beautiful,
you have a problem.  Personality is also given to some extent.  So, both
are a matter of what a person does with what's given.  None of them are
static, both of them behavioral.  Further, people tend to want people to
love them for what they _are_, as opposed to for what they _do_, and
it's their personality they talk about, not their appearances.

This should just give you an indication that the lines you draw are not
only misplaced, but also that drawing a line between them is not at all
possible on your premises.

|	 Like I said, a big difference.

Now, don't get me wrong.  There _is_ a difference, and it's an important
one, but it's not the one you refer to.  Try again.

My view is that appearances attract, personality makes you stay, and
that the difference lies in depth of involvement.

</Erik>
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From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual harassment on the net??
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:05:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

hess@decoy.uucp (25441-hess) writes:

>>If Jennifer believes that she is being harassed, then that treatment *is*
>>harassment.  

>See, this statement is what bothers me about this whole harrasment argument.
>Mind you I do not condone, or approve of the posts/email that has been sent
>to Jenniifer, and she has every right to ask for them to stop. I also hope
>that the lameoid that posted them gets heat for being a twit. However, the 
>above statement goes too far. An Example:

>Lets say that I met Jennifer in the lobby of a building every morning as we
>went about our business. Lets say that I found her attractive and wanted to
>make my presence known, so every day I would walk up to her and say "good
>morning, how are you today", and every morning I would be ignored. Now, 
>unknown to me the daily greeting is very annoying to Jennifer and after
>a period she comes to feel that I am harrasing her. Well then I guess by your
>definition it's true and I should be flogged in public.

I would never in any circumstance expect a man to be a mind reader. *I*
personally would not call that sexual harrassment. Now, had I asked you to
stop asking me how I was every morning and you didn't, then I would begin
to get irritated. I still don't think I would call it "sexual" harrassment,
unless I could prove that it was me and me alone you were confronting and
it was *only* because I was a woman. I suppose then it could be called
sexual harrassment. But like I said, I would never expect a man to read my 
mind and figure out on his own that behavior like that was irritating.

However, more overt acts such as forcing a hug upon an unwilling participant
is behavior that should always come with justification. If someone is
hysterical and you need to grab hold of them in order to calm them down,
that's one thing. But grabbing the proverbial secretary as she walks past 
you because you think she's a babe and you wanna quick feel.. well, you
might think of it as a joke, but beware. Acts like that can cause some
serious problems. 

I'm not saying that women have the right to deem anything and everything
as sexual harrassment. But it is up to you men to THINK BEFORE YOU ACT. 
What might be considered a joke or "friendly" behavior might be viewed in
an entirely different light by someone else.

-Jennifer
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: maman@mars.Colorado.EDU (Nathan M. Maman)
Subject: Carmen San Martin
Reply-To: maman@boulder.Colorado.EDU
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:18:12 GMT

Do you happen to know her?

Nathan

PS:  Any gifs apart from the one called `myriam' on nic.funet.fi?  I
     think it's her.  Thanks.

PPS:
(Familiar mode: on)
	  Eh, Victor?  Are you there?  She's a beautiful brunette.
	  Well, according to me :-)  Do you think she can be
	  classified `Super'-model?
(Familiar mode: off)
From: joho@pfbs.philips.se (Hans ter Horst)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: REQUEST: Vanessa Paradis GIFs
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:38:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment BCFI AB, Sweden

Hej!

Can anybody mail me GIFs of Vanessa Paradis? The Frence model with a singing
career.

Much obliged

/Hans
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From: tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Sharon Stone
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:37:10 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA


Does anyone out there have any gifs of  Sharon Stone?  Post-em!!!
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: ppt@bnr.ca (Peter PrestonThomas 1629969)
Subject: Re: Calendars and Brains
Organization: bnr
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:54:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.164406.1213@news.columbia.edu> jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu writes:
>   ...much deleted...
>Right, you admit it yourself.  You used a bad example.  After all the  
>deliriously wandering testimony of how well-versed in everything you are,  
>you failed to even show the slightest awareness of a Cindy Crawford's mass  
>popularity.  The woman has her own show on MTV, for God's sake!!!  Even I  
>know this, and I don't even have cable TV.    
>
Holy Toledo!!!  Someone who reads alt.supermodels knows that Cindy
                has her own show on MTV.  Will wonders never cease? :)

...PPT

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise 
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:54:22 GMT

Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Craig Andrew Humphrey) writes:

>pictures for their PS/2 machines, to run as a backdrop under windoze.  Now the
							      ^^^^^^^
Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
outside while you're indoors!  

>girls who work there have their own PS/2 running windoze 
						  ^^^^^^^

Once again, learn to spell...and get a life!
-Doc
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels

pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher) writes:
>
>Is gossip O.K. on this newsgroup?  I read a blind gossip item in Michael
>Musto's June 2 Village Voice column:"What top two female models have been 
>known to make out in public, purely as a goof, I'm so sure?"  My first thought
>was that one of them would be Christy Turlington.  Last night, a Wilhelmina
>model told me that Christy Turlington's lover is none other than Cindy Crawford.
>Richard Gere and Crawford are evidently content with each other's same-sex 
>affairs.
>
>Paul
>pcg@panix.com
>
>"Waiter, this cheese sandwich is hurting my gums." - Naomi C.
>
>

   This is like the nonsense that came out a few years back about 
   Rod Stewart, who is now married to Rachel Hunter.   I remember
   hearing from friends how he had sex with everyone, and once he
   got so sick the rushed him to the hospital and pumped his stomache,
   and they found sperm in it.

   Come on, get real.  How would they be able to tell?  I am sure no one
   ran a microscopic analysis on his vomit.

   It's just the kind of drivel you expect from the rumor mill.

   I since met a guy who actually knows Rod.  He plays soccer with him
   from time to time.  Turns our Rod is a pretty normal sort of guy,
   kind of conservative, actually.   He and Rachel just had a baby
   recently, and he is a doting father.

   I am sure Richard Gere and Cindy Crawford are nothing like they are 
   depicted in this posting.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Re: the most beautiful women in the world
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:41:29 GMT

Well I'm glad somone asked because here's *MY* list of the 5 absolutely
most beautiful girls of all-time.  And no arguments becauase *I*...

			Dark Hacker

... the most evil programmer in existance have spoken!  So there.

Kathy Ireland
Cindy Crawford
Ashley Allen - Playboy playmate August 1992
 
Sabine Dragomirescu-Ciotika - German Playmate April 1989 and
featured in the Playboy International Playmate special issue 1992

Tawny Cable

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From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re:  the most beautiful women in the world
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:32:40 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

>stecher@atlas.socsci.umn.edu(Jack Stecher) writes:

>egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>Well, here's my list of the 5 most beautiful people:

>>- [snip]
>>- Uma Thurman;

>Ack.  she has a face thqat reminds one of Elsie the cow.

>>- and Winona Ryder.

>BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! And for a moment I thought you
>were serious.

Actually I am serious.  I was hoping I wouldn't have to defend my choices
but since you so loudly object - to some her face is Elsie the Cow, to others
it is strong and exotic.  As for Winona Ryder, I find her dark 
hair, dark eyes and pale skin very dramatic and different in a country that 
sometimes seems full of women with tans. 

Janet

     |Women constitute half the world's population, perform |
     |nearly two-thirds of its work hours, receive one-tenth|
     |of the world's income and own less than one-hundredth |
     |of the world's property.                              |
     |United Nations Report, 1980                           |
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey)
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:57:15 GMT

jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES) writes:


>In article <1992Nov16.124844.1@acad.drake.edu>, tdl001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>|> 
>|> Does anyone out there appreciate Kathy Ireland as much as I do?

>YES!   Kathy is the *best* supermodel!  So wholesome, so sweet, so drop-dead 
>gorgeous with long legs!  YUM YUM!  

        Appreciate Kathy Ireland, hell the world ends the day
    she's gone (I'm not sure if a goddess can die though).  Women
    can get no better than she is, we have no where left to go from
    her except down.

                                  azrael

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Subject: Re: READ THIS JENNY
Reply-To: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:56:05 GMT

I feel very strongly that Jenny's harassment is a topic that should continue
on this board, since I'd like to think some people are learning something
about each other through this apparently passionate debate.  Three cheers
for Internet - my God, it _may_ actually have educational uses, after all!
As for the Long-Man and Victor feud, I'm sure we all know how much Long-man
likes Dice, and how Victor could find out my credit rating through the net.
Maybe you guys might want to send this hate-mail to each other personally
instead of filling bandwidth.  (Although I must admit I'm having a _great_
time watching 'em go at it 8> .)

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  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"
From: nml@csa.bu.edu (Newton Loui)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: READ THIS JENNY
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:33:44 GMT
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 00:51:04 GMT

In article <92322.195104LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

   Okay, since none of you are into the Diceman humor and we have one
   very sensitive woman here......I apologize.

(PERIOD) You should have ended your post there ... and left out the
"very sensitive" label.  The rest of your post just ruins the
beginning.

nml
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 find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by
 a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to
 know that even one life has breathed easier because you lived.  This
 is to have succeeded. -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
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From: osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey)
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:59:22 GMT

mscb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Asher Simon) writes:



>>Does anyone out there appreciate Kathy Ireland as much as I do?

>Don't you know that Kathy is married?

     Oh god help me, 
 
     Say it isn't so, where is that bottle of draino, I don't
     think I can face this.

                               azrael

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