From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DCI North Comments & Scores
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:14:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tmv@blitzen.uucp (26129-vandewater) writes:

>In article <Fu5BoB3w165w@willard.UUCP>, dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>> v067q3ey@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Harold F Mayfield) writes:
>> 
>> > Let's try this again......
>> >   3. Cadets of Bergen Co.
>> >      Well personally I hate this corp, but I'll give my honest opinion. ...
>> > Harold Mayfield
>> > '85 Bridgemen
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>    Ahh... this would explain why...
>> > '86 Phantom
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^
>>    tho' this is a bit in conflict with the two points expressed above.  How
>> did it come to be, this move from B to P?  (Or was that about the time of
>> B's demise...)

>Well, actually I think the reason Harold hates the Cadets is because 
>he was in Phantom, not the Bridgemen...but I'm sure Harold will
>comment on this.  
'

   Harold stated that he was in the Bridgemen in '85.



>I'll never forget in 83 at Phantom's souvenior (sp?) stand they
>had a fake DCI newspaper that read "Phantom wins DCI, Garfield folds"
>How tacky can you get?  This is POOR sportsmanship and shows a lack of true 
>understanding of what drum corps is all about.  

>Has Phantom gotten better?  NOT!  At the first Jersey show there
>was a staff member (supposedly) from Phantom and he was wearing a 
>Phantom jacket that read "Phantom Regiment - 1992 DCI Champions"  Now,
>this was not just a joke t-shirt but a really nice jacket.  Again,
>how tacky can you get?  The Einstein lady next to me said "when did
>Phantom win DCI?"  I commented "you mindless goat, this is 1992".

>Anyway, I've always found Phantom's competitive style to be the WORST
>on the field.  I think they're carrying a many year grudge for not
>winning DCI.  I dunno.   What are your comments Harold?  Do you agree
>with what I wrote?  Do any of you netters agree with what I wrote?  I'm
>curious to hear your perceptions of Phantom. :-)


     I think the animosity between Phanton and Garfield began at
the end of the '82 season.  Garfield was 5th in prelims and Phantom
was 3rd.  Finals saw Garfield move up to 3rd knocking Phantom into
4th by 0.1 tenth.   Phantom probably (don't quote me) saw this as 
another corps getting over.  After all Phantom up to that point
was the best known bridesmaid corps placing 2nd in '77, '78 and '79.
Also, up to that point, Garfield never laid a glove on Phantom, i.e.,
'74 - '81.  

   I girl that I marched with (Jody Weakland) went to Garfield in '83-
'85.  I know that Phantom stole a stuffed animal (Garfield, the cartoon
character) from one of the Cadets buses in '84?  I believe they strung
it up in one of their buses with a noose around its neck.

   Let me state for the record that Garfield were no angels either.
They continually made fun of Phantom at their own rehearsals carrying
on a parody of Phantom's Spartacus show.  Garfield also used to sing
a song using the finale of the 1812 Overture as the basis for the
song:

   " We march in Phantom 'cause we like straight lines...

     "We march in Phantom 'cause we like 4th place....

   The 27th Lancers were another favorite target for Garfield
as their guard would commence on doing warm-up spins and counting:

   ...... 24, 25, 26, 27 sucks, 28, 29, 30.....

or on a calmer day..

   ........24, 25, 26, .., 28, 29 30   eliminating saying 27
altogether.


   Granted, none of these things are capital crimes, but rather
that no one is innocent.


   Remember in '83:  1- Garfield, 2-Blue Devils, 3-SCV, when it
was the Vanguard's turn to pass in review they turned and played
to the Blue Devils, snubbing Garfield.   It was stated that it
was SCV's drum majors decision to do this on retreat after the
scores were announced and that Gail Royer had no idea that this
was going to happen.   Royer sent a letter of apology to the Cadets 
for their actions and it was read to the Cadets entire corps.  
Now that's DIRT!