HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: charles@gremlin.muug.mb.ca (Charles)
Subject: OK, WHY won't EA's get backed up?
Organization: The Haunted Unix Box
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:24:49 GMT


I keep reading how you can't back up OS/2 with a DOS back up program
because the EA's won't get backed up.  Does this include FAT as well?  If
so, why?  The EAs are just kept in a seperate file aren't they which will
get backed up in a normal backup stream.

I just mounted an OS/2 system's drive to a Unix machine and backed up via
tar.  I'm hoping if the drive ever needs restoring that I just boot with
the boot disk I made with SEBOOT, run SEBOOT again to get a proper boot
track on the hard disk, fire up NFS and restore.  Oh yeah...In case anyone
else is wondering, it is possible to put a minimal boot on a 1.44 floppy
and enough of TCP & NFS to mount the drive on Unix for restores.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dan Cable)
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:52:02 GMT

rbotimer@max.ct.gmr.com (R Douglas Botimer) writes:

>CompuServe is on Internet.  Don't have the details here, but you can send mail  
>to CompuServe subscribers via Internet (without having an account yourself).   
>I'll post the detail as soon as I find them.

Mail to CompuServe can be addressed to NNNNN.NNN@compuserve.com if you
have the recipients valid Compuserve ID number. Mail can also be sent from
Compuserve to any valid Internet mail address.

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dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: 256 colors with Paradise?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:44:36 GMT

In article <Bz4Hno.1HG@NeoSoft.com> paul@NeoSoft.com (Paul Hutmacher) writes:
>I must be missing something someplace but I can't seem to get 256 colors 
>with OS/2 2.0 and the 10/29 CSD.  I've got a Paradise SVGA card that has
>512k on it and can get 640x480x256 on it under dos or windoze and would
>like to have the same under os/2.

You are free to use 256 color modes with your DOS and Windows
software, just as you always have.  A Workplace Shell 256 color mode
driver should be, with luck, a couple weeks away (according to rumor).

See the FAQ List for some helpful advice.

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From: spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Memory question
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:00:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hello,

When running OS/2 I have a small memory monitor on to see the RAM status. When
starting an application the application takes lets say 1Mb of RAM. When 
closing the application again lets say only 600 Kb is freed. Where is the last
RAM? Is it an OS/2 bug or a bug in the memory monitor.

Thanks in advance

Please (also) email me
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:00:11 GMT

wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:

>I'd like to pay for the OS/2 2.x to IBM, *but*, thanx, no Windows 3.1.
>I don't need that dog. All I need is native OS/2 software.

Well, I can appreciate that viewpoint ... we go through the same thing
in the UNIX world.  For example, DELL bundles a DOS emulator in their
SVR4 Unix, even though a large number of people don't care about it.

However in this case (bundling Win3.1 support into OS/2), I think it
is important that they do so.  One of the main reasons some people 
are able to use OS/2 is the fact that it effectively *merges* Windows
and DOS ... and a lot of us are not willing to commit to OS/2 at this
point.  By continuing to provide Windows support, IBM is able to still
sell OS/2 to people like me, because we can continue to buy DOS or WIN
apps, and use them in the OS/2 environment.

I see your point, though, maybe it should be an *option*, but I definitely
don't think they should *drop* Win support.

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
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From: stkeith@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Steve T Keith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:11:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.BzD3qw.6rM
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

woc8r@ruby.cs.Virginia.EDU (William Owen Carlson) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.210437.934@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram) writes:
>>	Hi, netters just a thought. IBM doesn't seem to be doing so hot
>>financially they just said they are going to be laying off 25,000
>>more people next year this after 40,000 have already been allocated
>>to be laid off this year. 

>Please be a little more precise.  IBM has NEVER laid anyone off.  Truthfully,
>the early retirement plan that they offer is VERY attractive.  Also, the
>whole point of their doing this is to make the company leaner (get rid of
>some of that famous IBM beauracracy).  Personally, I think that it's a 
>good plan, and one that we can't expect to work in one year.  Give it some
>time.

Ah, but it is rumored that next year, IBM will actually *layoff* some of
its employees (I believe in the factories...could be mistaken).  This was
mentioned yesterday on CNN (the day IBM's stock dropped over 5 points!)

just my $0.03 worth (inflation)...

Steve Keith
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: CDEXPL Won't work
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:56:06 GMT

I have just installed my brand new TEXEL DM-5024 and TRANTOR 130B
controller and it works very well. Unfortunately cdexpl won't work.

I have installed the CD player with MMPM/2 and it can play the CD but
CDEXPL gives an error saying a certain command failed (something about
locking the drive door - something this drive doesn't have, along with auto
ejection etc). It then says the drive is not working and pressing the play
button causes it to start rotating but no music is played and the elapsed
time does not increase

HELP!!!!

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: NEC Pinwriter P20 driver?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:44:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.020649.3579@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes:
>I asked about NEC drivers a while back also, and got the same response "use
>an epson driver" Yes, I know my P5300 can emulate an epson, but it does not
>work as well as using a true NEC driver under Windows.
>I just wish I could get native OS/2 support for an NEC printer.

Just out of genuine curiosity, can you elaborate on why the closest
Epson driver does not work as well?

-- 
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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: jammin@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Ben Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Palettes under the 32bit drivers
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 19:51:46 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

gt0449a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Coleman) writes:

> Are there any programs that allow for a "private colormap" (as in a
> number of X applications) so that 256 color pictures could be shown
> using their true colors on the WPS screen?  I am running the new
> Trident 32bit drivers (800x600x256) with OS/2 and the CSD and I am
> having no luck getting a 256 color picture (or bitmap) to display
> correctly.  IMSHOW is suppposed to use the "palette manager" to allow
> one to see the "true colors" of a gif, but all I appear to get are
> translations using WPS colormap.  The same problem occurs when using a
> picture for a lockup screen; The bitmap has all the color wrong.  Are
> the new Trident drivers compatible with the new "palette manager" and, if
> so, has anyone managed to get 256 color pictures to display correctly
> either on the WPS screen or as a lockup picture?
> 
> Thanks..
> -- 
> Rob Coleman ][ gt0449a@prism.gatech.edu        ][  "I think I'm going bald!"
> Comp. Sci.  ][ Georgia Institute of Technology ][        -Rush/COS

Wierd, I have the same problem, but have the origional General Avail. 
release.  Colors are fine in separate (DOS) sessions using any programs 
from cshow to popular games.
I have the same trouble in windows.
The only way I can describe it is that a natualistic picture has a lot 
more silver-grays on OS/2 and win-OS2.
Yes, I'm still stuck w/ the 16 color drivers.
annoying as hell!
But I have a NON-STANDARD local bus (GHOSTS3), a "nice" S3 acc. 1024x768 
card, which is totally unused.
Is there ANY way I can make better use of this?
Even if just for windows...
It comes with drivers, but I'm not familiar with windows drivers.
and...  it didn't make a bit of sense (the docs that came w/ the drivers 
vs. what was in certain win-os2 dir's to replace.....)

any help?
a basic lesson?
please, anything would be appreciated.
                                        Ben Barrett
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 supporting windows enhanced mode (was: Re: Good OS/2 news)
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:32:17 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BzFJ6M.768@Novell.COM> Doug_Barlow@Novell.COM (Doug Barlow) writes:
>The article also said that IBM is working on a microkernel-based OS called
>Workplace OS.  No other information was given.

The microkernel version of OS/2 was demonstrated (sort-of) in a
very-very primative form at last Comdex.  I believe this will
eventually become version 3.0 - the portable version that will also
run on RISC-6000 machines and perhaps others.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Can OS/2 run full size windows in small windows?
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:39:51 GMT

Jeremy Mathers (pynq@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:

> In DV/X, for example, you can open a DOS window with scalable fonts, and
> you can then resize the window as tiny as you please, and it will
> continue to display a full 25x80 screen.  Of course, the type gets
> tinier and tinier as you go, until it becomes virtually unreadable.
> But, it *does* work.


You can do this somewhat by changing font sizes but you can't make it
respond to window resizing in that way.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:17:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Dec14.180328.4782@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
>Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1?
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:03:28 GMT
>ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>
>>(electronically). There are some pretty big bugs in 2.0 XR06055 and I expect
>>them to get fixed.
>
>How do you determine the "XR" number?
>
>Is there a bug list available, so us newcomers (to OS/2) can tell whether
>the things we see are bugs or "features"?  :-)

You can get the revision numbers of every IBM program on your system by 
typing 'syslevel' at an OS/2 prompt.

There have been many lists floating around pertaining to different 
revisions...are you seeing anything specific or just curious? :)

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From: shane@hisfood.Corp.Sun.COM ( Shane Brandon White )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PROS & CONS
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: shane@hisfood.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hisfood.corp.sun.com


Does anybody know what the PROS & CONS are of running OS/2 over Windows & DOS or Deskview?


Shane
From: 32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MMPM/2 -- How do I get it?
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:56:07 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hello netfolk,

  I am thinking about getting a Sound Blaster Pro Basic (No CD-ROM),
and I have read that I need MMPM/2.  I have already downloaded the
SBPRO drivers from ftp-os2.nmse.edu.

  What I need to know is how do I get my hands on MMPM/2?

  Do I have to order throuh IBM or can I download it from somewhere???
Multimedia is a new frontier for me!!  I appreciate ANY help!

-- James --
32coulter@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nareid@due.unit.no (Helge Nareid)
Subject: Re: Charcters in fullscreen OS/2 sessions
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:15:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.224102.29685@ugle.unit.no>, sveinare@idt.unit.no (Svein Are Martinsen) writes:
|> Finally I`ve got fullscreen OS/2 sessions working (when using 
|> ET4000 1024x768x256 drivers).
|> 
|> However, there is now antoher problem with OS/2 fullscreen sessions.
|> I no longer can display the norwegian character "oe" (as in Bjoern)
|> properly. Now I get that terrible japanese yen symbol!!
|> 
|> In OS/2 windowed sessions, I have no such problems!
|> 
|> What is wrong? Does anyone have a solution?
|> 

|>        Svein Are Martinsen

This problem was discussed here a couple of weeks ago, but no solution
was posted (as far as I can recall). Fortunately, I managed to find a
solution to the problem yesterday. You need to enable code page 
switching in the full screen sessions with the CONFIG.SYS statement
	DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,X:\OS\VIOTBL.DCP
	(where X: is your OS/2 boot drive)

It worked for me - no more cent-yen problems :-)

-Helge Nareid
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: patrice@cenparmi.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice)
Subject: Re: Problem w/ tri32bit.zip
Organization: CENPARMI, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:33:00 GMT

In article <724715968snx@bai.baylis.COM> tony@bai.baylis.COM (Tony von Ruden) writes:
>I downloaded thr new "official" trident 32 bit drivers off the IBM NSC BBS, 
>and had no problems installing them according to the instructions included.
>They seem really fast, but I've noticed a few bugs:
>
>2. After fiddling with the fonts in a dos window session (containing
>Norton Commander), and then using the top left botton to close the window
>(instead of closing the program itself), OS/2 locked up.  I hit Ctrl+Esc
>and waited a while, but no dice.  I had this happen twice while I was trying
>to find a font I could see (the old trident fonts were MUCH easier to
>read than these new single pixel wide ones).


   I experience this problem also. The original 16bit trident 
drivers did not work well at all. Well IBM service thought that it might
well be a driver problem. Your experience seems to confirm this. 

   Hopefully Trident will fix this sometime real soon now. Because it could
get pretty useless otherwise. Apparently this driver problem is addressed
in the next release and we will all be able to put this at rest. Probably
at the great releif of the people at BOCA.

Patrice



-- 
Patrice Scattolin
					patrice@cs.concordia.ca
Concordia University			Montreal, Canada
"I am so far north that Santa lives two blocks from me"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
Subject: Re: XGA-2 Clarification
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:01:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.062358.362@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak) writes:
>
>>supports bus mastering.  I didn't even think that bus mastering was
>>possible on the ISA bus but it looks like Radius figured out how to do it. 
>
>Or rather, INMOS did, as they are the maker of the chipset used (and by the 
								  ^^^^^^^^^^
>way, Radius is not the only one comeing out with an XGA board).
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>                                             [sam]
>-- 
>Scott A. Moore [SAM]  | "Cash is more 
>samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
>Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
>408-423-1624          | Allan Shugart - CEO Segate Corp.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------


Well, with Radius prices being so sky-high, does anybody know when another
company will produce an XGA-2 card and release it?  Company info?  Specs?
Pricing?  Any info whatsoever would be appreciated!!!!

- Eric A. Wolf
  ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

another
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From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Date: 19 Dec 92 13:58:04 GMT
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

According to wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni):
>My understanding is that the mainframe section of IBM is in trouble. The
>to-be-laid-off people and to-be-sold assets are mostly dealing with
>mainframes. Because of this, the roles of workstations and PCs become
>very crucial to IBM's survivability. I see this as a sign of IBM's
>continuous support of OS/2 as well as AIX.

Folks, please get this straight.  It is not IBM's policy to lay people off.
The large number of people that left last year did so under a voluntary
retirement program.  They may attempt to do the same thing this year,
although in a worst case situation, it is suspected that IBM might have to
resort to layoffs.

As for the mainframe business, there is still hope.  IBM is now focusing
its marketing efforts by touting mainframes as 'one hell of a server.'
Recent reports in DP magazines tend to give credence to this.  Furthermore,
if IBM can put its mainframe technology into smaller boxes, who's not to
say that an AS/400 sized mainframe would be impossible.  This would be a
plausible solution for companies doing a lot of transaction processing on
Big Blue Big Iron.  The mainframe business may never be the same for IBM,
but a shift in marketing strategies and technology could at least make it a
profitable division of a more diversified IBM.
-- 
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The University of Texas at Austin    : But I'm still waiting for Microsoft
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UUCP: ....!cs.utexas!ut-ccwf!jbodnar : productive user of OS/2 v2.0!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: Partitioning Help
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:00:17 GMT

In article <8rS=-VA@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe) writes:

 >> I'm going to be getting a new machine with one large hard
 >> drive on it (400 meg).  Can someone suggest optimal
 >> partioning strategies that I might use?  I'm not interested
 >> in booting DOS so I don't need any FAT partitions.  I
 >> would like to be able to run either the standard OS/2 or
 >> any beta version that comes along, but I don't want to have
 >> enormous chunks of disk space lying idle.  I'm thinking about
 >> having one partition for standards OS/2, one for a beta
 >> version and one for my user data.  If I go with this approach,
 >> how big should I make each system partition.  Should the OS/2
 >> partitions be FAT or HPFS?  Should each system partition 
 >> contain it's own SWAPPER.DAT file or can the two systems
 >> share a common SWAPPER file located in the user partition.
 >> Any thoughts, comments, suggestions or experiences would
 >> be welcome.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> James W. Howe                  internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
 >> University of Michigan             uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu!jwh
 >> Ann Arbor, MI   48103-4943         
 >> 

I suggest 50MB min for each of the OS/2 boot partitions with the remaining 
disk space reserved for a user data partition.  I have done almost exactly
this configuration in several cases.  The swap file can go in the user
partition, both versions can happily use the same file.  If you have 32MB RAM,
as I do in several installations, then the swap file seems to never grow.  We
set the initial swap size to 1024 (if you set it any lower, it still defaults 
to 1024).  Otherwise, the user partition allows ample room for the swap file
to grow as needed.  The 50MB min for the boot partitions needs to be 
explained a bit.  If you add multiple fonts (and most of us can't really stop
once we get started), and multiple bitmaps for the screen background (again,
most of us have difficulty stopping at this once we get started), then 50MB
can be a bit tight.  If you stick only with the default fonts and bitmaps, and
locate the swap file in the user partition, then the boot partitions can drop 
to about 45MB and still have a modest amount of room.  Make all partitions
HPFS.

Long-winded, and a bit ranmbling, hope it helps
--
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