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Subject: did anyone read my previous post
From: censtad@dion.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:03:45 -0600
Distribution: all


It has to do with Censorship on doors and I'd appreciate some response.   
Thank you
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:57:24 GMT

In article <1dbt6mINNdhl@skat.usc.edu> tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.012017.21922@umr.edu> ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
>>I hope you're not a GreekLettersOnTheChestMan.  Because, if you
>>are, your statement about Ted being "elitist" would remind me of 
>>something about a pot and a kettle and a can of black paint. 
>
>Gee I hope you aren't implying that because he is in a fraternity that he is 
>an elitist.  No, you couldn't be so stupid as to be that discriminatory.  

Look up the word "elitist" some time.  It's not a controversial
contention that a fraternity is an elitist organization.  I don't
even bother calling fraternities "elitist" because it's just plain
redundant.

Charles is merely pointing out the irony of someone in a frat
using the word "elitist" as an insult.  Alex tends to use a lot of
words he doesn't know the meaning of, though.

>I'm just glad you aren't in a position of authority, where you might be 
>able to use  someone's membership in a fraternity against them.  

As opposed to a position of authority in a fraternity where you can use
someone's gender against them?
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Frats
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:21:20 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Nov5.210933.9626@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
> In article <1dbuamINNfj6@skat.usc.edu> tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom) writes:
>>Each Fraternity
>>has its own tradition and history, and asking them to give that up is like
>>asking a person to give up their own cultural beliefs or religion.  
>>[...] I know most of my fraternity
>>brothers take the house a seriously as they take religion, and that is what 
>>you cannot and never will be able to understand without being in a fraternity.
> 
> You know, when I dared to suggest last March that fraternities have a lot
> in common with cults, I got flamed to bits...
> -- 

As I recall Ted, you posted an article about cults. The YOU claimed that the 
article had nothing to do with the fraternity discussion, then when I posted 
one of your little love notes to me telling me that I reminded you of a cult 
personality or some such, you became quite upset.

Just offering that facts.

Mike
Newsgroups: soc.college,dartmouth.politics
From: jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger)
Subject: Re: Dartmouth vs. Yale
Organization: Yale University, Intelligent Sensors Lab, Elect. Eng.
	<1992Oct27.173127.5261@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Oct27.213602.22762@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:19:33

In article <1992Oct27.213602.22762@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Isabelle.Marie-Anne.Rosso@dartmouth.edu (Isabelle Marie-Anne
Rosso) writes:

   It seems that people have been getting overly  upset about  the
   accidents that occurred during the rushing of the football field.
   That's what they were: *accidents*. i.e. the Dartmouth freshmen did not
   want to hurt anybody and everyone is extremely sorry that this was the
   outcome.

When a dartmouth college student running at full speed collides
with a musician in the Yale University Band who is standing
still, calling it an "accident" really stretches my imagination.
These hoodlums deliberately choose to trespass and rush the
field.  That was not an accident.  In addition, they decided to
run at speeds where they couldn'y avoid colliding with stationary
musicians.  That was an act of willful recklessness.  We must
also consider the possibility that some dartmouth frosh
deliberately ran into members of the Yale Band.  That would be
assault and battery.  I find too much evidence of premeditation
for this to be brushed off as a mere accident.

   We all know that both Yale and Dartmouth
   are excellent institutions and that they enjoy a *friendly* rivalry as
   Ivy League schools. The rushing of the field was supposed to be in good
   fun, a demonstration of school spirit. 

This was by far the least friendly football game I have ever
witnessed.  I have felt safer late at night in Harlem.  The
students who rushed the field have brought disgrace to
themselves, their class, their school, the Ivy League, and all
American colleges and Universities.

Jim
--
James Szinger                        jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu

"He was born with a gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad."
From: mw4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Paul Wakefield)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Frats / CMU / APhiO
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4eyefh_00VB94CLUQF
Organization: Sophomore, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.college: 5-Nov-92 Re: Frats J.H.
Huebner@ultb.isc.ri (802)

> >>At CMU, a private university, the greek system forms the
> >>backbone of the campus social structure.  No part of the
> >>Greek system is recognized by the student senate, and no
> >>funding is provided to any house.  Who we initiate is our
> >>business, as we (and the college) see it.

> >Just a reality check, I went to CMU too. The greek system is
> >NOT the backbone of the social structure there are MANY
> >very active alternative social orginizations for almost any
> >interest. The afformentioned senate consists mostly of
> >members of these organizations. Also I would argue that the
> >most powerfull and in my opinion healthiest Fraternity on
> >campus is APhiO the National _CO-ED_ sevice fraternity.
> >Go ahead make your argument but make it with valid points.

Hmmm...Ok...reality check.   September 1992...APhiO membership has
dwindled to around 10 members (Healthy ? not quite--if any greek house
was in the same boat their charter would be yanked most immediately
(a'la Chi O).  GREEK Philantrophy Council is taking over all but 2 of
their projects because they can no longer handle them.  No C-book this
year.  

At the same time, the fraternities seem to be growing.  our house has
increased it's membership by 10% over this time last year.  As for
senate, the one group with the highest # of senators is probably ROTC,
after the discrimination battle prompted them take more of an interest. 
the number of Greek affiliated senators will also be rising, do to the
fact that fraternities have not had much of a voice in senate in recent
years and have suffered accordingly.
 
Ok, so maybe "structural backbone" was a bad way to put it and open to
different interpretations.  what i mean is, walk around campus on a
weekend night and tell me where you see activity ;  dorms--no,  APhiO
office--no,  "alternative social organizations"-- no.  The activity is
mostly on the fraternity Quad.  that's my point.  If you want to go
somewhere to party or meet people, that's where you go. 

 I don't mean any  disrespect  for APhiO,  Non-Greeks, or anybody else. 
Just because I didn't choose to join a certain group doesn't mean
they're not a great organization.  Everybody makes their choices about
who they associate with, what groups they join, etc., and everyone else
accepts it and seems to get along pretty well.

-M-
___________________________________________

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded..
	..Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed..

mattw+@cmu.edu                               ---esp---
___________________________________________
From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Uniformed Services University
Summary: Looking for Someone at USUHS, Maryland
Keywords: Looking for Someone at USUHS, Bethesda,MD
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:22:03 GMT
Distribution: soc.college
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Can anyone help me out there?

I'm looking for my friend who attends Uniformed Services University of
the Health Sciences - F. Edward Hebert School of Medicine, in Bethesda
Maryland.

My friend's name is Troy Johnson, and he's a 2nd year med student there.
I've tried tracking him down via NETFIND at "bruno.cs.colorado.edu" but
it seems that USUHS doesn't maintain its own whois server.

Help appreciated.
Srihari Gopal
gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: Frats
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:09:33 GMT

In article <1dbuamINNfj6@skat.usc.edu> tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom) writes:
>Each Fraternity
>has its own tradition and history, and asking them to give that up is like
>asking a person to give up their own cultural beliefs or religion.  
>[...] I know most of my fraternity
>brothers take the house a seriously as they take religion, and that is what 
>you cannot and never will be able to understand without being in a fraternity.

You know, when I dared to suggest last March that fraternities have a lot
in common with cults, I got flamed to bits...
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: MIKEF@brownvm.brown.edu (Mike Fessler)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Clauses of interest from our bylaws
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:02:53 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In article <aelman.721270178@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
>But, of course, I assume you're also still selective in your
>membership (i.e. you don't accept _everybody_ who wants to pledge) --
>this is another part of fraternities that I really have a problem
>with.  If this isn't the case, then I have absolutely no problem with
>your fraternity -- I just wish yours was the norm.

I will absolutely defend the fact that we're selective in our membership,
for a very simple reason: we're not just a social club or a place to live
for a year, we're a group of people who share a committment. We want our
new members to be able to trust us, as seen in the excerpt of the bylaws
above. In exchange, we need to be able to trust our new members. We see
this mutual committment (we choose them and they choose us) as an essential
part of the relationship between members and the organization.

I've already told you the sorts of things that we *don't* take into account
when choosing members (and I can assure you that we in fact don't). What do
we consider? Willingness to contribute to the group. Good character. In
short, someone that we want to share our home and our lives with, and that
we feel good about entrusting the future of an organization to that's
played a major part in our lives.

This doesn't mean that we have to be good friends with new members before
they join -- but if there are more than a few people who honestly can't
trust the person, for whatever real reason, we can't in good conscience
admit them and unduly endanger the bonds between brother and sister that we've
worked so hard to foster.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Fessler                                   mikef@brownvm.brown.edu
   To light a candle is to cast a shadow.  -- Ursula K. LeGuin
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From: mokie@cco.caltech.edu (Michael L. Brundage)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: UVA, UM, OU
Date: 6 Nov 1992 01:56:24 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I have some friends at UVA (University of Virginia), University of Missouri,
and Oklahoma University -- anyone know if these schools allow undergraduate
computer accounts, and if so, what the email addresses are?
Thanks.

- Michael Brundage

-- 
mokie@cco.caltech.edu        |  "Let not your heart be troubled,
        or                   |    believe in God, believe also in Me."
michaelb@iago.caltech.edu    |       John 14:1 (NASVB)

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: van@wucs1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo)
Subject: UW-Platteville email
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:43:02 GMT

Tracked down the following possible domains:

comsci.uwplatt.edu
ucs.uwplatt.edu

Good luck,
Van Vo
Washington Univ. Volleyball Club
Women's Volleyball NCAA Div. III Regionals
are being held at UW-Platteville Nov.12-14
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: s0r6574@sigma.tamu.edu (RAMANATHAN, SUBRAMANIAN)
Subject: Ph.D in Mechanical Engineering
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:40:00 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,misc.jobs.misc
From: ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler)
Subject: CS Grad @ CSU San Luis Obispo
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:25:15 GMT


I would like to interview (via e-mail) current participants of the Computer
Science Graduate program at the University of California at San Luis Obispo.

Would anyone who is currently enroled in that program (or knows someone who
is), and wouldn't mind a few informal questions about the program, please send
e-mail to me?

Thank you
			--Eric
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Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: sk@twg.com (Shantanu Kothavale)
Subject: Obtaining info on ongoing collegiate research.
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:38:45 GMT

Hi, 
	I was wondering what the best way is to obtain a list of 
(the best) research programs in a particular field at US colleges.  
For example, how would I get a list of programs in, say, Computers in
Education?
(I'm not interested in that topic myself, it's just an example).

	Any suggestions would be extremely welcome!


						Thanks,

						Shantanu
From: exupeha@exu.ericsson.se (Petrus Hardianto)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: CS Grad in Canada
Keywords: Computer Science Canada
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:54:41 GMT
Reply-To: exupeha@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Hi,

Can anyone tell me which school in Canada has a strong graduate
program in Computer Science?

Thank you,

---

/petrus

===============================================================================
Petrus Hardianto / Ericsson Network Systems / Richardson, Texas 75081
exupeha@exu.ericsson.se  Office: 214.997.4261  Fax: 214.669.8546
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Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: how people think about gourman report?
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:01:02 GMT

In article <Bx45A5.25x@cs.columbia.edu> liang@cs.columbia.edu (Chihong Liang) writes:
>Gourman Report, a rating/ranking book for USA and world-wide
>universities and institutions, since its first publication in early
>'80s, has become one of the most frequently read reference books in
>university libraries. But how are people 's view on this book? Does it
>really make any sense evaluating a school by rating and ranking its
>departments meticulously? Is there any real difference between a
>school ranked 13th and one ranked 15th? It would be interesting to
>know how many people base their decision (at least partially) on this
>book before they choose any graduate schools.

Until Gourman releases anything resembling a methodology, it's fairly
safe to say he makes the numbers up, and act on that assumption.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad
From: msengup@eos.ncsu.edu (MAITREYA  SENGUPTA)
Subject: Re: Graduate Schools for Geography
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:56:31 GMT

In article <1da1b1INNboo@GIRAFFE.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU>, schwarz-marc@cs.yale.edu (Marc Schwarz) writes:
|> In article xiaoman@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
|> 
|> >Hello,
|> >   Can anybody send me information about Graduate schools in the US which
|> >have good Master's or PhD's program in Geography?
|> 
|> To which speas.13.720647754@econ.unt.edu replies:
|> 
|> > Your library or maybe your graduate school probably has copies of:
|> >        "Peterson's Guide to Graduate Programs"
|> >        "Peterson's Guide to Graduate Programs in Humanities
|> >                                                and Social Science"
|> >    The listing is practically exhaustive.  Although, I have found
|> >    that even the recent copy has some old phone numbers for dept.
|> 
|> If these are the guides I think they are, then they are extremely
|> dated.  I speak from experience here, in that my brother in law
|> 

	Well.....the last time I checked, (Which, I admit, was a while ago :-))
a new set of Peterson's guides was published every year or every second year,
so it should be possible to get hold of a copy that isn't all that dated.

	Maybe your library has stopped subscribing to the new editions of
Peterson's Guides. Or maybe you are confusing them with Gourman's Report
which has not been published since about 1987-88. Gourman's Reports contain 
(pseudo) rankings of different graduate programs, whereas Peterson's Guides
actually contain descriptions of graduate programs, faculty listings, areas of 
research, contact addresses/phone numbers, and other such handy info and 
(mercifully) NO RANKINGS!!

Regards;

Maitreya (hope this helps) Sengupta.
From: liang@optima.UUCP (Song Liang)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Canadian University Ranking--MacLean's
Date: 13 Nov 92 08:02:50 GMT

From article <1992Nov12.205218.8833@ac.dal.ca>, by xh841@ac.dal.ca:
> 
>                    1992 MACLEAN'S ranking: 
> 
>            Canadian Medical/Doctoral University Standings
......

What's the standing for Computer Science?
From: xh2v@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Xiaojun  Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Does anyone know these E-mail addresses?
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:46:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

I would like to know the E-mail addresses for the EE

department of U.Penn and Penn state, 

Please e-mail me at xh2v@fermi.clas if you can help,

I will really appreciate your help.

-Trent
From: isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Comp Sci. Grad Program at Univ. of Lowell, Mass.
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:21:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


If anyone is a computer science grad student at University of Lowell,
please send me mail with your impressions of the grad program and your
research interests.


Thank you,
Sylvia Isler
isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu

Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Re: Grad Schools and Image Processing...
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:31:43 GMT

Awais Zakauddin at USC writes:

>Could someone give me names of schools with strong research activities
in image processing?  I'm looking for somewhere to go for my Phd.

We think it is quite appropriate for us to recommend U Mass at Lowell.
They started the ANSI committee (with us at Wang) to standardize Image
Processing APIs.  Univ. of Florida also participates in this committee
(X3H3.8).  Let us know if you need further information on the research
or programs at either. --------------------Barb Lurvey
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad
From: dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco)
Subject: Re: Graduate Schools for Geography 
Keywords: Geography
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:08:44 GMT

>In article <1992Oct23.124446.2327@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> xiaoman@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>>Hello,
>>   Can anybody send me information about Graduate schools in the US which
>>have good Master's or PhD's program in Geography?  Any news from
>>relating fields are also welcomed such as cartography, metorology, 
>>city planning etc since I am searching for a major area.  If possible,
>>please send me the e-mail addresses of the Geography department or
>>admissions office of those Graduate Schools.  Thank you in advance.

I have done a lot of research regarding graduate schools in geography
myself. If you can narrow your scope of interest (even if it's just
a general topic like: remote sensing, physical, cultural, etc.) it
would be easier to recommend a school with a similar area of study.
For example: here on the west coast, if you were interested in
cartograghy/remote sensing UCSB would be the place for you, physical: UCSD,
cultural: Berkeley or U. of Wash.

If you wanted to get a masters and teach, well then, that seems to be
a little more difficult. I'm finding it hard to find a professor who
supports my proposed graduate school intentions, and I've talked to
quite a few of them.

Dave
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: harvard history
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:53:56 GMT

rumour has it that harvard's graduate history department is
self-destructing.

can anyone comment on this? 

-- 
--- bob pasker
---- rbp@netcom.com
From: rauscher@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Rauscher)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Meaning of "Big 10" and "Ivy League"
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:00:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Federal Reserve Board of Governors


I was told by a dean once that the definition of Ivy
league was:  any school that was founded before the American revolution
and privately administered.

Is this a reasonable definition?

-Rich
-- 
Rich Rauscher, Systems Analyst, Federal Reserve Board of Governors
              "In the long run, the computers will win."
rauscher@dimacs.rutgers.edu     uunet!fed!rauscher   rauscher@NJIN.bitnet
From: dfulton@aeroblue.aero.nd.edu (david fulton)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Univ. of Alabama @ Huntsville
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:28:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov12.212843.18922
Reply-To: dfulton@handel.helios.nd.edu (Dave Fulton)
Organization: Department of Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering, University of Notre Dame

In article <92317.015337WAF102@psuvm.psu.edu>, WAF102@psuvm.psu.edu (William Fabanich) writes:
|> Can anyone give me a brief rundown on specs of the aforementioned school
|> Size, etc......
|> 
|> I also would like to know how their engineering progrm stacks up..especially in
|> the area of mechanical/aerospace engineering and propulsion (yes, I know that
|>  Marshal SFC is right next door.) How do their undergrad and grad degrees stack
|>  up overall.
|> 
|>             Thanx,
|>               Bill Fabanich
|>                waf102@psuvm.psu.edu

	Me too.
	
	I would especially like to know the e-mail addresses of mechanical
	/aerospace departments around the country, thier reputations and
	specialties.
					Dave Fulton
					dfulton@handel.helios.nd.edu

-- 
The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away.
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