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From: jts@ginny.ece.cmu.edu (John T. Stonick)
Subject: Re: Fishing Depth And Time
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:53:58 GMT

In article <92209.230338SRK8@psuvm.psu.edu> <SRK8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Recently I had gone to scuba dive at a place called Raystown in
>Pennslyvania.  I found out some interesting things about fish.  Most of the
>fish seemed to be at a depth of about 20-30 feet.  This is just below the
>first thermal layer and I found mostly bass and carp.  Also the fishes
>seemed to almost always near the bottom of the floor.  Only during the night
>could I see all the small fishes, lots off minnows and cray-fish.  Does this
>mean that at this time of the year we should be fishing deeper and at times
>when the sun is not out ? I am just a beginner fisherman, so I would like
>you net-folks to comment on this.
>
>
>Kumar

I am very curious about your dive. Perhaps you could post more detail as
to what type of water you found the fish in. Were the bass only relating
to the thermal break or were they also relating to some type of cover at
the same time?  Also, were the fish schooled up or just scattered along
the thermal break? Finally, were the fish approachable or were the
wary?
-- 

jts@ginny.cmu.edu 
John "fish tremble when they hear my name" Stonick

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank Brown)
Subject: Re: Need Bass/Northern Pike Tips...
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:40:40 GMT

In article <BrwEFH.453@watserv1.waterloo.edu> tom@steam.uwaterloo.ca (Tom Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.142025@ratchet.Prime.COM>, kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> It seems that there are some Northerns in the lake also, although nobody
>> up there seems to want to fish for them.  I have always wanted to catch
>> one, but did not realize they were there.  What should I purchase for
>> them, if I am only going to get three lures, (what are the BIG THREE)?
>> 
You can catch pike on most bass lures but the three pike lures I have
most faith in are the Mepps Giant killer, the Dardevle, and mr catch-any-
fish that swims the Rapala. Pike like real weedy areas where they can
ambush anything that is smaller than them so if some areas of the lake are
more weedy you might try those spots or adjacent to them.

Frank
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Depth And Time
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:34:02 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

<SRK8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Recently I had gone to scuba dive at a place called Raystown in
>Pennslyvania.  I found out some interesting things about fish.  Most of the
>fish seemed to be at a depth of about 20-30 feet.  This is just below the
>first thermal layer and I found mostly bass and carp.  Also the fishes
>seemed to almost always near the bottom of the floor.  Only during the night
>could I see all the small fishes, lots off minnows and cray-fish.  Does this
>mean that at this time of the year we should be fishing deeper and at times
>when the sun is not out ? I am just a beginner fisherman, so I would like
>you net-folks to comment on this.



Kumar 

Yes, yes and yes.  The 20% of the fishermen that catch 80% of the fish learn to
fish effectively from 20 feet down.  In lakes at least that deep, bass like the
30 foot area. Night fishing is particularly good in the three hottest months.
However, recent research has shown that bass eyes take about 2 hours to adjust
to dark conditions so that the first two hours after dark may not be very
good. -Roger
From: jbcst+@pitt.edu (John B. Coxey)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: regional fishing publications
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:45:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <13628@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.185540.24985@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>|In article <ceNmP8_00WBK44nIFp@andrew.cmu.edu> Andy Kurtz <ak35+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>|>I thought it might be nice if net-types would post the titles and
>|>addresses of regional and/or state fishing publications.  These
>
>In the bay area we have a couple of "tabloid" fishing mags.  "Fishing and 
>Hunting News" (out of Seattle, I believe) has regional issues for the
>western states. There is also the "Fish Sniffer" which is even more 
>tabloid-like than F&H news.  Their fishing "forecasts" are usually about
>a week old and since the information primarily comes from marine owners
>it's usually pretty glowing.
>
>-- 
>+============================================================================++
>| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
>| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
>+============================================================================++

Talking about regional magazines:

   One that I enjoy, is titled "Fly-Fishing Guide" for PA-NY-MD-NJ-DE.
It is largely advertisements for fly-fishing outfitters & supply shops,
but there is a section titled "fly of the month", which contains
instructions on how to tie a particular trout fly/nymph that is going
to be usefull on local streams for that month.  This month the article
was on white mayflies, and there was also an article by Cathy & Barry
Beck concerning hard shelled ants.

    This magazine/newpaper can be picked up at fly-shops for free or
by subscription for $12.00/yr = 10 issues.

     Rather nice and usefull magazine.

John Coxey
From: jbcst+@pitt.edu (John B. Coxey)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Trico/caddis
Keywords: Trico-flies
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:25:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Brwn72.70C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kenf@uiuc.edu writes:
>In perusing a calendar of the Western fly fishing season I came
>across the following: "Tricos, PMD's and caddis often blanket the
>water." PMD must be a Pale Morning Dun and I know that caddis are
>in the order Trichoptera. So, what's the difference between a caddis
>and a trico ?
>
>I would appreciate it if someone would identify trico for me,
>preferably by genus & species, and suggest a good imitation.
>I'm not familiar with western patterns so perhaps someone
>acquainted with the "tricos" of the Madison, Yellowstone and
>Firehole could help me out. I'll be fishing these rivers the
>first two weeks of September so those hatches are the ones I
>want to imitate. I'd hate to have the water "blanketed" with 
>tricos and have to stop and tie one. :-)
>
>--
>Ken Fortenberry                            | Internet: kenf@uiuc.edu
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | BITNET: KENF@UIUCVMD.BITNET
>Computing & Communications Services Office | UUCP: uunet!uiuc.edu!kenf 
>1304 W. Springfield Ave.  Urbana, IL 61801 | Phone: (217) 244-3215

-----------

Ken:

    In the September-1992 issue of "Fly Fisherman" magazine there is an
article on trico fishing by Pter R. Fenn (pp48-51etc.)

     Around here (Centre County, PA.) the tricos are comming off pretty
heavy in the morning.  Spring Creek, was a little slow last week with
the tricos, but Elk Creek (see Millheim,PA) was just packed with them.
The brown trout in Elk Creek seemed to be feeding just below the surface
on these mayflies.  I did not have any patterns with me, so I just
fished
        a size 14 black ant(wet) and had about 25 browns in 8 hours.


    The trico flies are around a size 24 or smaller and seem to be 
rather tough to tie, so just buy mine from the store.

    Like I said earlier,  the trico hatch is an early morning affair
around here (8ish-11ish) depending on the cloud cover.  The more
cloudy it is, the more tricos you see. And it is genreally an everyday
ffair from July to the first couple of frosts in the fall.

------

      Not sure about genus or species (sitting here flipping through
article and catelogs).  You may want to give Dan Shields a call at
(814)234-4189 [FlyFisher's Paradise] to get pattern and fly information.
He used to put the patterns in his catelog, but didn't this year.

      I don't usually fish the trico patterns, but I know it is a major
hatch of central Pa. waters this time of year.

-----

    Hope this helps.

John Coxey
From: labc-4aa@web-2h.berkeley.edu (CS 60C Lab Assistant)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: RE: WD-40
Date: 23 Jul 1992 00:10:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-2h.berkeley.edu
Originator: labc-4aa@web-2h.berkeley.edu



>A couple of months ago I saw a man do a fishing presentation using       
>a tank about 30' x 4' x 6', filled with trout, bass, and some others.    
>All the hooks had been cut off the lures.  After demonstrating a         
>rubber-skirted spinnerbait, he cast it onto the parking lot blacktop     
>and had a kid kick it around and stomp on it a few times.  Then he threw 
>it back to the fish, and the bass hit it just like before.  (I think the 
>trout still went for it, too, but my memory on that is a little fuzzy.)  
>The point he was making was that smell doesn't mean much.

	Smell doesnt mean much when you're dealing with 
impulse baits such as spinner baits ... bass hit those
type of lures on impulse... since they are faster 
relative to other baits.. Live bait testing is the only
way to check if WD-40 works... or plastic worms or
something much slower.

Jimmy
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: rjsparks@lstar31.tamu.edu (Robert Sparks)
Subject: Re: Bluegill Recipe
Organization: noitazinagrO
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:50:31 GMT

For what cooking conditions? Are you gonna feed it to kids?

Assuming you are not feeding children (or other people who dont realize
that fishbones poke your gums and do horrible things in your throat) try
the following campsite recipe:

If you know how to filet the fish do so, else gut, skin (not scale), dehead
and defin. Rinse thouroughly. Wrap in foil with butter&lemon (if available :
a small<-- amount of salt and a bit of water will do in a pinch). Bury in coals
for awhile (depends on size of fish. start w/ 10 min for big fish/hot coals).

Eat with fingers... Watch out for the teeny bones

This is a great recipe if you are camping on impulse and have no
cookware/supplies. 

If you have condiments/spices available, there are many variations.
The best Ive found for the small sunfish is to roll them around in parmesan
cheese before baking as described above (for big fish, bake awhile first, then
roll in cheese (watch out for burned fingers) and bake some more).


Enjoy...

RjSparks
------------------------------------

What the heck is that thing?
I dunno, but I hear they're good eatin'
From: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Lexington Reservoir in Los Gatos.
Date: 30 Jul 1992 21:27:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts1.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: Bass Heaven??


 Any no why they are draining Lexington Reservoir in Los Gatos, CA???
The water level is dropping 10-15 feet a week. I heard they are draining
it dry. Anyone know their plans??

 The water level has dropped so much that it has became very easy to
catch fish. I was there 2 times this week and I averaged 15 bass in
2 hours on spinnerbaits and plastics. Also the folks down the bank were
pulling in catfish. One cat looked to weigh 7-8 pounds. There also are
an assortment of rusted old lures and tackle that can be found on the 
now dry shores.

-Greg

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Re: BOWFISHING IN TEXAS!
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:11:26 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

dadams@cray.com (David Adams) writes:

>In article 711839263@scofflaw, douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>> csc1210212@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>> 
>> > I am an avid BOWFISHER in the East Texas area and would like to shoot the bull
>> .....
>> .....
>> >I would appreciate any messages pro or con!
>> 
>> 
>> I guess you don't have to give much thought to C&R :^) 
>> 
>> 

>Many bowfishermen bowfish for Carp and Buffalo fish etc.  In fact in
>many states it is only legal to fish for these (or other "Junk fish").  
>Did you really want to insist on C&R for carp?

>> I guess you don't have to give much thought to C&R :^) 
						     ^^^^
No, that is why there is a smiley face. ---------------|

I guess people have gotten defensive after the C&R flame fest.

			-Ron 

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom)
Subject: lack of forage
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:28:38 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 07-29-92 21:54


 In response to FAK9957@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.ED

:     * Adult alewives were almost absent from the northeastern New
:York waters of Lake Ontario. Canadian surveys found abnormally low
:numbers of alewives in easternmost waters there, too.
:were collected in the western lake trawls this spring.

 We're experiencing the coldest Summer of the Century and since the 
Lake hasn't stratified, we're blaming the Weather. The "action" has 
been rather dismal and the fish appear to be scattered.
 
 Just a couple of years ago, remember marking all sorts of huge "pods" 
of baitfish (in fact back then, it wasn't uncommon to find an alewife 
impaled onto each hook of the treble after trolling through a dense 
school). This year they are few and far between and much smaller than 
what we're accustomed to expect.
 
 Spent 4 hours this morning trolling the waters out of Toronto and 
didn't mark any significantly large schools of baitfish. Our only 
"hook up" was a pan-sized rainbow that had the audacity to hit an NK 
Mag that was perhaps a third his size. Gave him an "E" for effort and 
released it.
 
 Sounds like a classic "Catch-22", either way the Fishery surely will 
suffer. The waters of Lake Ontario are becoming cleaner, the winters 
are milder.......so what is the problem??
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Heard of the IZUKU lure?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:36:40 GMT


Anyone heard of the IZUKU lure?  What is it like?

--
    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
    Fish on the Byte
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Subject: Keys fishing report
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:03:46 GMT
Keywords: dolphin, tarpon, marlin, sailfish

Somebody asked for a Keys fishing report.  

Offshore:
Good 20-30 pound dolphin (mahi-mahi, dorado)  Lots of little ones
in schools, of course, but there are lots of the bigger ones coming
through.
Blue marlin seem to be more plentiful than usual this summer.
Last week the Islamorado Lady was dolphin fishing when a SAILFISH showed 
up.  Sailfish are winter fish in the Keys.  Anyway, Fred threw it a
rigged flying fish and they landed it.
The Islamorada Lady also caught a 90-pound tarpon lazing around at the
head pin.  They released it, of course, but got nice pictures.
Anyone on the net who wants Keys fishing information can call my husband,
Fred King, at 305-852-6347.  Tell him you talk to his wife on the net. 
Fred runs the Islamorada Lady out of Holiday Isle Marina in Islamorada.
While his wife has this really smart Bell Labs job in Indiana, his business
address is the Atlantic Ocean.  One of these days I'm going to wise up.
It may be sooner than later.  My youngest has three more semesters in
college!!!  Yeah!!!
 
 
-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King

From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:00:53 GMT
Subject: Cheaper Flyline treatments?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.fishing


This has probably already been hashed over many times so please email if
it's been done before.......

I am nearing the end of my first bottle of Glide (tm) flyline dressing.
The stuff is pretty expensive and appears to be like a wax.

I have many different automotive waxes, bottles of Armorall and etc. 
in my garage.

Is there any reason that I should buy another bottle of Glide(tm) when
I already have so much other "similar" stuff available??????


Ron Miller
Ft. Collins, Colo.
ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com

"You never know what kind of a low-life you'll find over a battlefield."
            -- Robert Shaw, FIGHTER COMBAT
From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Frank Kruppenbacher)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: WNY Report
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:16:54 GMT
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology


	This personal reply was bounced back to me.  It's for the gentleman
wondering why I don't include Lake Erie on the Western New York fishing report.
I'll have to post in in the group in the hope that he sees it.

The message could not be delivered to:
 
Addressee: PAVLOV
Reason:
  %MAIL-E-NOSUCHUSR, no such user PAVLOV at node CCVMSA
 
----------------------------------------
Date: 28 Jul 1992 07:38:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "FRANK K." <FAK9957@ritvax.BITNET>
Subject: Lake Erie Reports
To: PAVLOV@canisius.bitnet
 
 
        I can only assume the DEC Region 8 headquarters (in East Avon,NY),
where the bulk of my reports get their information, does not cover Lake Erie
in its area of responsibility.
        From time to time, people send me information on Lake Erie, and I fish
there myself on walleye charters, or my friends fish there. When this happens,
I post all that is known at that time.
        I know I say, "Weekend Prospects in 'Western' New York", yet no Lake
Erie information. I'll see if Region 8 DEC can supply me this information from
their contacts in the Lake Erie region.
        You can contact your DEC office in your area for this information.
Often local newspapers print the DEC reports which are compiled normally on
Thursdays for release on Fridays to local media.  Maybe the DEC can FAX you a
copy weekly during the fishing season?  Often too, the local county fishing
hotlines are tied into these DEC reports and they are just a phone call away.
 
Frank Kruppenbacher
RIT
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: WD-40
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:30:09 GMT

In article <1831.25.uupcb@cccbbs.UUCP> bill.garrison@cccbbs.UUCP (Bill Garrison) writes:
>TO:ALL
>
>
>I was at the pay lake the other day and when I was leaving I saw
>this young boy sprayed WD-40 on his Night Crawler. I ask him if
>this works? He told me it works most of the time.
>
>Has anyone heard of this before?
>
>Bill
>---
> . MegaMail 2.10 #0:cccbbs!bill.garrison@uceng.uc.edu
>                                                                                                  

Yep, in Alaska they spray it on fresh roe to mask human scent when
fishing for salmon. Also, anise-flavored scents.


-- 
Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		
DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
8 Doyle Lane, Hopkinton, MA 01748
508-435-4567
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: FREE THE FISH!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:34:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.201125.144@lrc.edu>, blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
|> THEIR ONLY PURPOSE IS TO BE SLAUGHTERED, SCALED, MAIMED, BOILED OR ROASTED, TO

This is making me hungry, how am I supposed to get some work accomplished, 
still 1.5hrs till luch.

|> THROW AWAY YOUR FISHING ROD AND BOYCOTT YOUR LOCAL SEAFOOD MARKET TODAY!!!!!!!
Give it to me!  I will make sure the filthy thing destroys no more fish!

|> 	        (brought to you by the Seafood Liberation Front)
|> 
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Goin to Boise...
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:51:03 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

To all the Boise folks ( and New Orleans folk).... how's the fishin???

Looks like I might get to escape Colorado for a few days and visit
your lovely state(s).  I have fished alot in Idaho but not down near
town.  (I especially love the Sawtooth Mountains!!) 

Anyone over yonder give me a fishing report or be willing to take
a bumbling Colorado (ex California and Oregon) fisherman to a few
choice spots.  I would gladly return the favor  :-)  I am scheduling
my trip so I can stay an extra day or two before I have to fly
to New Orleans.  (Any New Orleans people reading the above applies
to you also  :-) )

I will be in Boise the 19th - 23rd of August (New Orleans 23rd - 28th)

Thanks!

Dave

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: WD-40
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:53:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

I have heard that if you smoke cigarettes that the tobacco smell gets on 
the lures and will cause a fish to spit out a lure a little quicker. WD-40
is more of a scent mask than an enhancer.
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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.backcountry