HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF)
Subject: Re: ref.tfs.com frequently unrecognized by DNS
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:00:55 GMT

ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:

I have had the same problem.  Most people said for me to check with nslookup,
but it simply disappears for us.

Our DNS guru yanked the dns data and found some error from that site and sent 
an email message.  I am not sure what was done though.  Something about two 
nameservers having conflicting info.


> All day today, but frequently in the past as well, DNS, including nslookup,
> has been unable to find ref, either by name or IP address.  Is this
> scheduled or unscheduled ( :) ) downtime?
> 
> What causes ref to disappear from the route maps?  How long does it have to
> be down before it is taken out?  How long does it take for it to propagate
> when it comes back up?
> 
> 
> --
> --                                                        ___________________
>   R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765  /   _____  ______ 
>   Humanities & Social Science,  GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst.   /        / /  /  / /
>   Flint, MI 48504      ellis@nova.gmi.edu              /________/ /  /  / /


mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: andreas@knobel.GUN.de (Andreas Klemm)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: multiport serial driver
Date: 21 Nov 92 09:09:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Andreas Klemm, 4040 Neuss, Germany

cgd@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes:

>i've completed a multiport extension to my serial driver stuff...

Wow, great !

>This should be available fromthe following places:

>	ref.tfs.com (140.145.254.251)     ~cgd/com/com-multiport.tar.Z
>	agate.berkeley.edu (128.32.136.1)
>			~ftp/pub/386bsd-0.1/unofficial/cgd/com-multiport.tar.Z

What about posting this stuff ?! I can't access internet directly !
Certainly many other 386bsd user can't either. I think this wouldn't waste 
bandwidth of usenet too much...

Thank you very much !

Bye
	Andreas
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: 386BSD: Cyrix486/487
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:31:11 GMT

John Ruschmeyer (jruschme@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:

: Depending on prices in your area, though, you may want to compare the
: cost of a 386-40 vs. that of the Cyrix 486.

Where might one obtain such a beast?  Has Cyrix come out with their own
486?  I have a 486/25, and would like to move to a 486/50 chip (my motherboard
will support it), but Intel wants too damned much money for their chip. :(

I've looked in Computer Shopper, but have been unable to locate either a
Cyrix or AMD 486 chip - at ANY speed. :(

Please email to erc@apple.com - I don't venture over here very often.
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: paulp@uts.amdahl.com (Paul Popelka)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386bsd] A mountable dos filesystem
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:00:34 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I posted the code for letting dos filesystems be mounted
under 386bsd to alt.sources.  I posted it to comp.unix.bsd
too but, it didn't seem to make it to c.u.b.  I guess our posting
software is broken.  If there is enough demand I will repost
it to c.u.b.

Paul
paulp@sde.uts.amdahl.com
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: CODRV EXPERIENCES [was Re: XFree86 problems (keyboard hangs overnight)]
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:56:47 GMT
	<veit.721670337@du9ds3> <JKH.92Nov16095746@esel.lotus.com>
	<veit.721914354@du9ds3>
Distribution: comp
Organization: /home/jkh/.organization


	Sorry. This is why I recommended to "always get the latest BUGLIST-file". The
	earlier version of keycap had a documentation bug concerning the modifications
	to cons.c. See the excerpt of BUGLIST.111192 on this enclosed below. In the

Ah.  I got the keymap file from agate.berkeley.edu which does not allow one
to actually *look* in the incoming directory, so the best I could do was
grab the keymap distribution itself since its name was given exactly in the
posting I read.  Since then, I've managed to get into ref.ftp.com (thnx
again, Julian!) and gotten the full distribution.  I'll try it all again
tonite.

					Jordan
From: kim@dde.dk (Kim Andersen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386BSD] Gcc 2.3.1 & kernel -> SUCCESS/2
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:47:17 GMT
Organization: Dansk Data Elektronik A/S

I would like to report a partial success with using gcc-2.3.1 for kernel
compiling.

I had to do the following in order to be able to link/boot this new kernel:

compile init_main.c with gcc-1.39, otherwise the link stage would fail with
symbol error for "___main".

compile machdep.c with gcc-1.39, otherwise the kernel will enter a endless
reboot loop.
(This has to do with some differences in packing between 1.39 & 2.3.1 )

compile pccons_{vga,out,kbd} with gcc-1.39, else multiply defined symbols.
(This is really weird.)

My machine have been running this kernel since saturday night, with "only"
2 crashes/hangs.
The hanging is seen when running a gcc-1.39 kernel, probably has something to
do with swapping.
The crash happens when running the byte-benchmarks (4 concurrents shells),
and gives a "vm_fault(blah....) trap code 12".
It also happens when using a gcc-1.39 compiled kernel.

I haven't tried comparing the performance using the different kernels.
.

kim
-- 
-- 
Kim Andersen @ Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Herlev, Denmark.
E-mail: kim@dde.dk   or    ...!uunet!mcsun!dkuug!dde!kim
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: sbartram@xzaphod.com (Scott Bartram)
Subject: looking for values of IFF_COMPAC, IFF_COMPPROT
Organization: XZaphod in Rockville, MD
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:01:21 GMT

I am working on a port of PPP to 386BSD and I have two defines
referenced in the code that I can't resolve. Does anyone know what
IFF_COMPAC and IFF_COMPPROT should be? Thanks in advance.

scott

-- 
=======================================================================
Scott Bartram
sbartram@xzaphod.com
uunet!xzaphod!sbartram
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey)
Subject: RE: xdm (was: Re: Disk performance issues, was IDE vs SCS)
Reply-To: Rich@rice.edu
Organization: Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Rice
	University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:46:38 GMT

In article <Bxwy4M.3FM@cosy.sbg.ac.at> peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Peter Burgstaller) writes:
   Hi netters!
   I've XFree86 installed and some applications runnin very good (xtank ... 8*))
   Now I discovered that the first thing all of our local users (on the 
   386bsd system) do a login and IMMEDIATELY start X.
   So I wanted to start the xdm in my rc file (as suggested by the man-pages).
   It comes up with Hostname and Login: ...
   But if I try to log in with my definitely CORRECT password it says
   login incorrect!
   I have crypt installed and everything connected with it (ftp,tn,passwd ...)
   Any suggestions?

I'm told we can't redistribute xdm binaries with a working crypt due
to export restrictions.  If someone is willing to sort out the
redistribution problem it would solve this -- we have the binaries.

gatekeeper.dec.com seems to have a policy that permits redistribution
of DES code within the US.  Is there someplace similar we can use to
distribute an xdm binary with DES?  Rich

   - Peter 8*(
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   | (peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at)| in Salzburg, Austria (Europe)		    |
   | "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" (Douglas Adams)	    |
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: [386bsd] XBSD8514 source available
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: comp.unix.bsd, comp.windows.x
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:48:26 GMT



I have ported to 386bsd an 8514/a server. I don't have an 8514/a
but owners of ATI Ultra running under 386bsd have had no problems
with the server. The server has been clocked at 60k stones.

Due to ATI's policy of non-disclosure agreement, we have not
used their extended set of registers which perhaps would allows
to achieve higher speeds.

The server sources and  the binary is at:
sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming/XBSD8514

The reason that the server works is because I have an S3 server
which used to be nearly identical to the ibm8514/a. The reason
is different today is because we have added hardware cursor support
and we use vga banking to do bulk image transfer to the S3 card.
The S3 server works and passess all x11perf tests. Both
the binaries and the sources are in the same ftp site.

Enjoy,
Amancio Hasty  
Home: 415-495-3046


Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Peter Burgstaller)
Subject: Re: Disk performance issues, was IDE vs SCS
Reply-To: peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:14:46 GMT

Hi netters!
I've XFree86 installed and some applications runnin very good (xtank ... 8*))
Now I discovered that the first thing all of our local users (on the 
386bsd system) do a login and IMMEDIATELY start X.
So I wanted to start the xdm in my rc file (as suggested by the man-pages).
It comes up with Hostname and Login: ...
But if I try to log in with my definitely CORRECT password it says
login incorrect!
I have crypt installed and everything connected with it (ftp,tn,passwd ...)
Any suggestions?

- Peter 8*(
---
/-------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Peter Burgstaller| Student of Computerscience			    |
| (peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at)| in Salzburg, Austria (Europe)		    |
| "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" (Douglas Adams)	    |
\-------------------------------------------------------------------/

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: rcbajr@rw9.urc.tue.nl (Jim Rump)
Subject: [386BSD] gcc-2.3.1 binary available!
Keywords: gcc
Distibution: World
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:32:49 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Summary: gcc
X-Posted-From: rw9.urc.tue.nl
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi all,

For the last few weeks I can't seem to get this posting posted to the
world. This is my * try!

Some time ago I gave gcc-2.3.1 a try and made the binaries. 
All has a size off ca. 2Mb. Also I succesfully recompiled the kernel
with this version.

This version of gcc (binary) is available at:

ftp.stack.urc.tue.nl. In : pub/386bsd/0.1-ports/gcc-2.3.1


Jim. (jim@stack.urc.tue.nl)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca (Theo de Raadt)
Subject: Re: 386BSD: /bin -> /usr/bin reorganization
Organization: little lizard city
	<1992Nov18.064604.2992@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
	<CGD.92Nov18155017@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:33:41 GMT

In article <CGD.92Nov18155017@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes:
   In article <DERAADT.92Nov17041728@newt.newt.cuc.ab.ca> deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca (Theo de Raadt) writes:
   >Among a large number of other Sunifications I have made to my 386BSD
   >system, I've made this one:
   >
   >lrwxr-xr-x    1 root            8 Oct 24 21:05 bin@ -> /usr/bin
   >

   there are problems with this: notably, straight bsd systems
   aren't "meant" to mount /usr when they're brought up into single user
   mode.

   i assume you're running with / and /usr physically residing in the same
   partition.  otherwise, i don't see how this could work -- sh is in
   /bin, so you couldn't even run /etc/rc, if / and /usr were in different
   partitions.
Did you not finish reading my posting?? I mentioned that 'init' needed to
be fixed, and even gave the output from 'df'

   I think any Sun admin who saw you running with / and /usr in the same
   partition would die laughing.
It's exactly because the default setup has / and /usr in the same partition
that I nearly THREW UP and I sat down and fixed that IMMEDIATELY.

   there are many more changes which are necessary to move stuff
   from /bin into /usr/bin, and make it 'stick' properly.

I believe I made it quite clear in my previous posting that / and /usr
are in seperate postings. I copied all the binaries that I absolutely
needed into /sbin. That is essentially what Sun did as well.

I know what is going on. A sun machine needs / and /usr both to run single
user. It does mount /usr as read-only, but it needs some of the binaries
there. They place only about 6 programs in /sbin (hostname, ifconfig, init,
mount, sh, and one called intr). I found that I needed a bunch more in
/sbin -- every program that /etc/rc ever needs.

And, I had to modify init.c so that init would know to look for sh and
fsck in /sbin instead of /bin.

Really, it is working, and you can tell because my root partition is
using LESS than 15M of disk while my /usr is enormous.

Filesystem      512-blks    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
/dev/wd0a          62462   11490   44724    20%    /
/dev/wd0g         187742  153470   15496    91%    /usr

It *DOES* work.
 <tdr.
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This space not left unintentionally unblank.		deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: sxx4519@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.X. Xue)
Subject: [386BSD] Printer problem
Originator: sxx4519@ultb
Reply-To: sxx4519@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:57:34 GMT

I recently installed 386bsd on my pc. I downloaded the binary
distribution from agate.berkeley.edu. But the printer (LPT1) never
worked. I found out there was no "/dev/lp". I tried to make one with
"mknod", but I don't know the major and minor device number. In fact, I
don't even know if my kernel supports the parallel port. I noticed that
in the MAKEDEV file, the printer part was left blank. Can any one tell
me how to make my printer work? I'd appreciate it.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: [386BSD] Mylex LNE 390 EISA network card driver?
Organization: Lotus Development Ireland
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:29:32 GMT

Has anyone else got one of these things and thinking about writing
a driver for it?  I know it uses a National ethernet chip, though I
can't see the part number at the moment..

					Jordan
From: rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey)
Subject: Re: can't compile with xmode!? won't run xfree
Reply-To: Rich@rice.edu
Organization: Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Rice
	University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:31:31 GMT

In article <ac0DuB2w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF) writes:
   I have been trying to figure out how to compile a kernel with X support
   built-in.  I am running X now.  I have downloaded and applied all of the 
   patches.  I have added  UCONSOLE and XSERVER to the options in ../GENERICISA

   I have  config GENERICISA   I go into the GENERICISA dir and do a   
   make depend.  I then do a make.

   I can see that  -DUCONSOLE and -DXSERVER has been added to the command line 
   during the compile stage.

   However,  grep -i "xmode" 386bsd  shows nothing!  The new kernel when 
   rebooted, does not support X11.

   I have manually stuck a  #define XSERVER in pccons.c, and it gives me a 
   warning saying it has been already defined.  

   What am I missing?  

   mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF)
   Western Business School  --  London, Ontario

Double check that you are actually compiling and linking in the
patched pccons.c and not the original.  If you patch
/sys/compile/GENERICISA/pccons.c, then make sure that your Makefile
refers to it and not /sys/i386/isa/pccons.c.  Rich
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: glenc@netcom.com (Glen Collins)
Subject: [386bsd] Install?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:57:13 GMT

Hello!

	Well I'm still trying to install 386bsd on my system with still
lots of problems! Even a manual install just hangs. Now, is there any dos
program out there that I can load and do a warm reboot and watch the 386bsd
do it's thing? I want to see what information my machine is returning to
the install program(more than the debug option returns). Maybe the HDD
controller is returning the wrong status code, I really don't know. Any
help would be appriciated.

-Thanks in advance.

	Glen Collins (glenc@netcom.com)
		     (root@genone.mystic.com)

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: d87-mal@oddjob.nada.kth.se (Mats Lfkvist)
Subject: Re: 928 chipset?  was Re: What is the best VGA card for 386BSD???
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1992Nov20.160442.11380@netcom.com> <1992Nov20.181942.15615@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:08:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.181942.15615@netcom.com> kwan@netcom.com (Kwan-Seng Low) writes:

   Would be interesting if someone could run bench mark on the VL version versus
   ISA version of the 801 to see VL really outperform the ISA...

Is the server ready to make full use of a 32-bit path to the graphics card?
If not (which I think is the case), there is potential for another factor two
speed increase...
      _
Mats Lofkvist
d87-mal@nada.kth.se
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: idequesa@encore.com (Ivan Dequesada)
Subject: dist.fs boot infinity-loop
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:20:22 GMT
Summary: BSD's dist.fs diskette incompatible with some PCs
Keywords: boot loop


Does anyone know the difference between BSD's dist.fs and
LINUX's dist.fs??

It seems that some PCs (Including (but not limited to) Compaq
Systems and TI's) hang in an infinite loop when booting from
the dist.fs diskette (3 1/2", 1.44 Mbytes).
This seems to be a compatability problem. However, it would be
better to fix it in the diskette than in the BIOS-ROMs of
tens of thousands of PCs. The fact that those PCs can boot the
dist.fs with LINUX on it, indicates that the problem can be fix
in the dist.fs.

Mr. Jolitz, if you read this, ask Linus if he uses near or far
pointers when booting.

	idequesa@encore.com
From: okamoto@chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Ingre89 (In English)
Keywords: Ingres89, need help, news
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:05:39 GMT
Organization: Univ of Osaka Prefecture, Sakai

Several days ago, I posted I had ported Ingres89 to 386bsd.  Many
requests to send my patch has arrived, which exceeds my estimation.
Furthermore, various opinions are proposed how I should deel with it.
I wonder if some other persones have written the article concerning
with it on this NG.  By some accident, although I do not know what is
happening, I can not receive any articles on this NG now. 

I would appreciate you very much, if someone could send me the copy of
the articles responding to my last posting.  It is needed for me to
decide which way I should choose, to post the patch, to send someone
to request put it on some ftp directory, and so on. 

Tanks in advance,

Kenji
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.linux
From: etxmkhn@eulalia4.ericsson.se (Mark Hannon)
Subject: Cryix 486DLC/33 CPU - Anyone used one with bsd,linux?
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:13:47 GMT

Hi there!
The title says it all!  I am just about to make the plunge to a 486
and this Cyrix chip is about 3000 SEK (approx 500 USD) cheaper!

But I don't want to buy something that doesn't work too good.  I
would like to hear from anyone who has used this successfully with
either 386bsd or linux.

Thanks in advance, Mark H

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 Ericsson Telecom AB    memo   : ERI.ETX.ETXMKHN
 Stockholm, Sweden      Phone  : +46 8 7195140
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: paul@tvt-k (Paul Pries)
Subject: Re: [386bsd] XS3-0.2a is now available
Organization: >Televerket Utbildning, Utf
Distribution: comp.unix.bsd
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:45:25 GMT


Hi, folks.
All this about the new S3 server sounds nice, but the big question
for us who use national keyboards is:
	Can I use it with codrv?

I know a lot of people (I'm one of them) who say that they rather
have a screen that flickers and an old ET4000 card than give up
their national keyboards...
I'd like to both have the cookie and eat it...

Greetings,
Paul.
--
Paul Pries
email: 5322@msg.abc.se  (short email only, no longer than 500 lines...)

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: gtoal@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: [386BSD] Source for .Z-friendly man posted to alt.sources
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, Harrow, England
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:11:58 GMT

This is a *very* quick hack to man to allow you to compress all the
man pages with unix compress and still be able to read them.

Just go to /usr/share/man and do   compress */*.0 */*/*.0

There will be a lot of linked man pages that compress refuses to touch.
Either leave them as is (I did) or unlink them, compress one by hand,
and relink all the .Z versions.  (Pref '-s' so you can see in future
which files were linked to what)

I hope I haven't broken it.  Seems to work on everything I've tried.

I started from the net2 man only because that's the only one I could
find unpacked anywhere - the bsd src distribution is too big for me
to unpack on my machine (hey - if I had space, I wouldn't be compressing
the man pages, right?)  If the 386bsd man is changed in any way from
the net2 man, you'll have to fold in the mods yourself.

In the places in the code where I've been dirty, I've put comments
telling people what to change if they want to spend the time to do
the job properly.

This was a two-hour hack for my own benefit; if anyone else finds it
useful they're welcome to it.  I won't be supporting it after this.
Ideally the .Z compression should be done transparently by the filing
system, which I think is how bsd4.4 will do it? - in which case this
hack will be redundant.

Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com>
PS Create a directory /usr/local/src/man/man for this, and
ln -s /usr/local/src/man/man/man /usr/bin/man to install it.
Build this with cc -o man man.c config.c
[config.c is straight off the net2 tape - only man.c and pathnames.h were
hacked]
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd