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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Lex Luthor (was Doomsday:  I've been wondering)
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:17:24
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: kim@inquis.enet.dec.com's message of Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:33:38 GMT

kim@inquis.enet.dec.com (Howard Kim) writes:
|Speaking of Luthor, what's the deal with this nice guy attitude?
|Is he trying to win the trust of the people and superheroes in order to
|kill them all and take over the world?  He's had plenty of chances to off
|Superman himself, so why hasn't he?  
|He could have killed most of the heroes in Panic in the Sky, but he didn't.
|Anyone know why?
|I'm not a regular reader of the Superman titles (4 per month, all interrelated
|is a bit expensive).  Anyone care to share some insight on Luthor?

Luthor doesn't want to rule the world, just be "the biggest man in
Metropolis."

He *does* wish Superman dead; however, I suspect he'd rather destroy
him first and in such a way that it couldn't be traced back to him.

--
Peace.
                  "That was a stupid slip.  Nobody trusts a Greyhound rider."
                            - Kyle Baker, _Why I Hate Saturn_
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Superman #75 - Spoilers Wanted
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:59:36 GMT

So okay, Supes bites it while defeating Doomsday.  How'd he defeat
him?  Just slugging it out?
-- 
Profanity is the one language all programmers know best.
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From: rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney)
Subject: Re: "Vaporware" Comics
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:46:56 GMT

>>I'm trying to compile a list of comics announced but never published by major
>>comics companies. I use these terms flexibly, but if I include too many
>>small indpendents, the list will certainly become unmanagable. So far, I've
>>thought of:

	Well, there's the Daredevil origin GN by Miller and Romita Jr.,
MAN WITHOUT FEAR, which was supposedly to be released sometime in 1991.
Anyone have any news?
  
	(I'll skip over the painfully obvious ones, like BIG NUMBERS,
the Gaiman-Bisley Batman GN, or anything by Matt Wagner...)

Cordially,

Michael S. Rooney
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From: scostain@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Sean Edward Costain)
Subject: Re: Names 2099
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:36:52 GMT

In article <1e3t31INN4c5@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikEscutia) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov14.204735.53495@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:
>>>------SCAVENGER 2099
>>
>>    Who is one who names himself after that horrible Lee-Ryan creation to talk
>>about "style over substance"?
>>-- 
>Who said he named himself after Ravage 2099.  Scav's just spoofing the 2099 
>line.  Right, Scav?
>						--MikE 2099
>
>

	Of Course he is, and who shouldn't.  :-)


		Dae Aini 2099 & a half
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: How was ROBIN 3000?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:32:02 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <BxsH8v.GFq@ecf.toronto.edu> kamg@ecf.toronto.edu (KAM GREGORY K) writes:
>Has anyone out there read ROBIN 3000?

>I saw it on the stands, but passed it up because of the high $$$.

>On a hunch, it didn't look like anything special, but I'd like to know
>if someone out there liked it.

>I'm thinking that if it was anything short of INCREDIBLE, then I made
>a wise decision.

I doubt anyone will fault you for your decision.

I thought it was mediocre.  The story was pedestrian (and only this side of
being cliche), while the art was not what I would call P. Craig Russell's
best.

Maybe part 2 will be better, but I found part 1 rather boring.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"If I had enough money I'd buy a round for that boy over-there,
 A companion in my madness in the mirror, the one with the silvery hair.
 If some kind soul could please pick up my tab
 And while they're at it if they could please pick up my broken heart."
					- Marillion, "That Time Of The Night"
From: pcxsws@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (S.Ward-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: "Vaporware" Comics
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:44:42 GMT
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham

DCs Swamp Thing - Deja Vu by Wein and Wrightson.
DCs Swamp Angel by Grell I think.
DCs Brother Power ongoing series, apparently this will not fit
in with the Vertigo line and has been shelved. Pity.

Slainte,

Steve
From: Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman: here's what we do...
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:57:06 GMT
Organization: In Effect Enterprises

In article <1992Nov23.164631.11980@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff) writes:
> 
> DC COMICS MUST BE STOPPED!!
> 
> Okay, gang, here's the plan...
> 
> It's too late to do anything about the droves and droves of copies of Superman
> 75 that have been sold (yes, I admit my guilt in this), *but* it's not too late
> to do something about his revival.
> 
> I am calling on EVERYONE who reads RACM to swear a solemn oath to REFUSE TO BUY
> THE RESSURECTION ISSUE!! In fact, force your friends to swear this too. And
> convince your local store to only order a normal number of copies. Now, most
> will not want to do this, as it will mean profit loss. But maybe SOME will
> realize that these things will be in the "Fifty Cent Bargain Bin" before the
> year's out (along with Superman 75). Maybe we can even get some media coverage
> on this....The press seems rather eager to cover Superman stuff these days.
> 
> Come on people, I'm going to need your help on this one. Let's send a message
> to DC that you don't dick around with fanatical comics readers and get away
> with it.  Let's make this the biggest fiasco in comics publishing history
> (bigger than Secret Wars II even!)!!!  If you're going to kill a major
> character, at least make it worth our time.
> 
> Yours in eternal idealism,
>           kristoff
>                "Someone's got to do it , don't you see? Someone's got to
>                  save the world!"

I think the word you're looking for is "boycott."

Be careful. . .

Kevvy Kev
"Once Superman is dead, no one will see him.  This is not a cheap trick."
  -Dan Jurgens
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Steranko and Dracula
Date: 22 Nov 1992 23:33:35 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Keywords: huh


 > Went and saw FFC's version of BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA last night (a
  > pretty mediocre experience) and noticed that during the long list of
  > credits, Ol' Jim Steranko is listed as Visual Conceptualist or
   > Consultant or some shit like that.
    > 
     > I bet the sketches were worth seeing; and knowing Steranko, I'll
     bet
      > he sells them at top $$.  Or prints them in MEDIASCENE PREVIEW
       > (unless that rag has gone under since I last looked.)

I was unaware of this.  I had heard, though, that Coppola's production
company liked some of the sketches Mike Mignola did of Dracula's castle
so much that they used them in the movie.  After seeing the movie, I was
not so terribly impressed with Dracula's castle myself, but those are
the breaks I guess.
Organization: Masters student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner #3
Date: 21 Nov 1992 11:59:50 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


Wait, you EXPECT plot, character development, dialog from this book?

It's friggin' GUY GARDNER!  Sheesh.  :)

While I didn't buy it, I glanced through it in the store and thought
it was great. :)

				--Kynn
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From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Subject: Re: thor
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa

In article <By0s0F.7yK@apollo.hp.com> jlevine@apollo.hp.com (Jennifer E. Levine) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.080658.10047@anasazi.com>, rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>|> In article <!qjqfsh@lynx.unm.edu> djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:
>|> >I hope that there will be a lot of Asgard adventures, but with
>|> >Jim Starlin writing I think old Thor is going to be doing a lot of space
>|> >travelling.
>|> 
>|> Let me get this straight.  Beta Ray Bill is in space ...  Thor is in space ...
>|> Do you think?...  Could it be ...  Maybe, just maybe ...
>|> 
>|> 					Ron
>That would be too cool for words...

Yeah, well don't get to excited, I'm sure Starlin has some big plans for 
Thor in the upcoming Infinity Crusade.  But then again hope is eternal if
not fleeting.

the Mighty Joe Young
djyoung@carina.unm.edu
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Spidey 14-part Cross-over (was Re: '93 is a'comin'.....)
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:00:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BxoFvv.2up@news.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:

>14-part Venom/Carnage thingee.  Hoo boy!  What do youse guys think this
>will be like?  (The cross-over, I mean?)  

Long, boring, and probably very expensive.

Well, what did you THINK???  This is a MARVEL X-OVER! :)

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

My .sig file is not currently present because it's acting as observer to a 
leaper...I'm still working on getting it out of the Imaging Chamber! :)
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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner #3
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:51:32 GMT

In article <Bxytr5.EsB@apollo.hp.com> jlevine@apollo.hp.com (Jennifer E. Levine) writes:
>What did people think of this issue?
>
>I found it amusing...
>


	Well, if all you want out of a comic is one long fight scene, then
it's great.  If you expect anything else--  plot, dialogue, characterization--
then it's completely lacking. 

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: thor
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:02:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.!qjqfsh
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BxtDvB.H87@apollo.hp.com> @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine) writes:
>
>I just finished reading this and I wanted to scream! Even Beta Ray Bill didn't
>get to KEEP Mjolnir. Odin made a "copy" for a worthy warrior. Now he is going
>to let Thor just give it to Eric. I don't think so. 
>
>The Sif plotline is sorta silly. I think she just loves whoever is Thor. Now
>that Thor is back to stay with her she should go to him but the authors will
>probably mess that up too. 
>
>I wait over a year for this. 
>
>I like the idea that Thor will stay in Asgard for a while and help get the 
>Kingdom back in order and have adventures with the warriors three and Sif.
>But no Mjolnir is like say Thor will now remove his arm and give it to Eric.
>
Well I think that a least it is a step in the right direction.  Look on the 
bright side, now we have a great story ahead of us.  Thor vs. Eric for 
Mjolnir.  I hope that there will be a lot of Asgard adventures, but with
Jim Starlin writing Ithink old Thor is going to be doing a lot of space
travelling. We need some more Walt Simonson on Thor if you ask me, but 
maybe Starlin will surprise me. And don't worry the Thunderstrike book
will be dust, because the fans won't buy it. The only thing keeping it
on track now is Tom DeFalco is editor-in-chief.

the Mighty Joe Young

djyoung@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER 2099)
Subject: Re: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:47:24 GMT

Hi y'all,

   This will hopefullu be my last post on this subject.
To begin with I would like to state for the record that I WANT THE LNH OFF OF
RACM!  I would like for us to be able to confine most of our activities (other
than FAQS and announcements) to the alt.group.  

Also for the record, WE CAN BE IN RACM! The baseball stories in a music group
analogy was stupid.  Our stories are comic related, thus they can very well be
in a comic miscellaneous news.group.

I would personally like to apologize for wReam's accusations that Mr. Cowling
would fix the straw poll.  It was an uncalled for remark.

WE are also actively encouraging people to use the LNH prefix on all cross-
posted articles.

We are also looking into alternatives on how everyone who wants can access LNH
posts. (This process was started a while before Mr. Cowling began his campaign).
I am currently running a survey that will hopefully tell me who can get what 
newsgroup and we will move from there.  We are concidering a mailinglist, but
due to the lengths of the posts, this may not be vialble.

As much as I would like a rec.arts.comics.lnh group, this is not the time for it
.  First the LNH has to prove it has the staying power and the interest to 
warrant a rec.group.  If we're still around next year, maybe.

The idea for a R.A.C.Fiction group....intrigues me. But this is a topic for next
year as well.

If a LNH message does not have a prefix on it and it slips by your kill filter,
then it is a very simple thing to hit "n". Watch: n   Pretty easy, huh? Also
please feel free to write the poster a letter telling him NICELY that he should
include the prefix next time.

With that said, I would like to make a pledge to all of the LNHers who can't 
access alt.comics.LNH, and I belive I speak for the whole Counil of Elders.

I refuse to allow a situation occur that will deny you the chance to enjoy
the LNH.  I don't give a damn what Mr. Cowling's straw poll says, we will be
here for as long as necessary to ensure that everyone can participate.

BTW, Mr. Cowling, I understand that you have recieved around 40 letters (maybe 
more) in support for your cause.  I recieve about 4-5 letters a day in support
of the LNH/complimenting our work/or asking to join.

In closing, I would ask my fellow LNHers to let this subject drop.  All that 
needs to be said has been said, and anything further only invites more argument.

Thank You

----Todd Kogutt aka SCAVENGER


-- 
Alt.comics.lnh -the most fun you can have with  |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
    your .net on!                               |      (Internet/Usenet)
You don't have to be crazy to be in the LNH,    |  "Oh Bite Me!  It's fun"
    But it helps!!!                             |         -Crow T. Robot (MST3K)
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Green Lantern QUestion(MINOR SPOILER)
Date: 22 Nov 1992 04:05:52 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Distribution: na
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
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Originator: goldfarb@earthquake.berkeley.edu

	One further question: this storyline is called "The Third Law".
It would seem that the "Laws" in question are the laws of thermodynamics.
So why are these "entropoids" going on about "The entropy of a perfect
crystal at a temperature of absolute zero is zero"? 

	(Yes, there are plenty of possible rationalizations for this.
However, nothing will convince me that the writer didn't really mean
to call it "The Second Law".)

	(There's also the question of just why the laws of thermodynamics
need personified enforcers -- they're *not* that kind of laws! But in
a magic-driven universe I'll let that go.)

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |  evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |  them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: friedman@moon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Subject: Re: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.212607.9649@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>In any case, as the numbers pile up it looks like a better and better idea all
>the time.  The vote is 40-12.

...and we all know that the straw poll is a totally accurate
mind-reading interface to the opinions of the *entire* Usenet
community, right?

I mean, it's just *so* unlikely that many, many people aren't
participating simply because they think it's an incredibly ludicrous
idea and don't subscribe to such self-efficacious tripe...

							- Mark

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former  "Beat poets,    "Bite me,   "My jacket! I killed
 about King Crimson."      not children."  it's fun!"  Kennedy in this jacket!"
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90   - anonymous     - MST3K     - Ron Post
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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Iron Man Movie?
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 10:04:20 GMT

perry@bobcat.lmc.edu (James Braxton Perry, II) writes:

>I have been reading Iron Man regularly for the past two years. I accept the 
>death of Tony Stark (because they will bring him back as something else). 
>Since Batman and Robocop did so well at the box office, wouldn't an Iron Man 
>movie have a simmilar chance if the story line was done well enough.

Well actually Tony Stark is coming back to life in about
two or three issues.

Jed
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Spidey Movie????????
Reply-To: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:29:17 GMT

last i heard, james cameron was interested in directing.
he supposedly is doing a new film, after which he is going
to choose between two other films; one of the two is
spider man. i have read this in at least two places, though    
i remember not where. still, i tcould all be false.
russ fischer
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:22:36 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: DC:Why they did and how they could have(Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!)
	<By1II2.5Kr@cs.dal.ca>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.misc: 21-Nov-92 Re: I'm not buying
Superman.. Sean Smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (1905)

> 	Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else feel that DC is killing off
> Superman only for the money?  That they're ignoring the collector and are 

I don't think there's any doubt of this. If DC made money off of back
issues or if they wanted to "reward" the regular readers of Superman's
titles they would have gone about things completely differently. Imagine
this:

One fine day the Superman writers get together with the Superman editors
and the higher-ups in a "super-secret" meeting. They decide that they're
going to kill Superman. They decide that *no*one* outside the room can
find out about what they're going to do. They don't even have to let the
regular artists know, because they can make the actual issue that he
dies in be drawn and inked by Jurgens. They editors and higher-ups set
down the law: if anyone discusses this with *anyone*--wife, husband,
kids, friends, co-workers--it will be denied and he/she will be fired.
They all sign an agreement stating these stipulations. The Doomsday
storyline starts as usual with the little "Doomsday: part 1" heading on
the first issue. They go through the storyline like they did in real
life--dropping hints about how Superman would die, etc. Then Superman
#50 comes along and he *dies*. The issue disappears off the shelves.
Second printings are immediately called for. The only people with a copy
of the (very limited number) of first printings are the comic shop
dealers and the regular Superman readers. The issue is hard to find and
*does* become a collector's item. DC, as a special Christmas bonus for
its employees, thought ahead of time (because the higher-ups knew what
was going to happen) and broke its policy--they ordered copies for each
employee from the printers. Since the Doomsday storyline was so weak in
itself, nobody out of the ordinary would have picked up the issues

Of course, since the story *was* so bad, everybody would've been
*really* pissed off at DC, but it would've been a better way to do the
whole thing, IMHO. Since the story was so bad, the only way they could
get anybody to buy the damn thing was to advertise that Superman would
die at the end--otherwise nobody would've bought it.

--Vernon.
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From: whelal@engr.UVic.CA (Wael  Helal)
Subject: Re: -I KNOW WHERE GOTHAM CITY IS--
Reply-To: whelal@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:34:41 GMT

In article 83836@ut-emx.uucp, aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>In article <92317.142414IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu> IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>>So, there i am reading the post about most commonly asked questions and i
>>come across "Where is Gotham City?"
>>the suggestions were:
>>I don't know, It's in New Jersey, It's in new York.
>>Well, I know where it is, and i can prove it.
>>In Batman: The Cult-Book 4, after Decon Blackfire takes over Gotham, about a
>>hundred people try to escape.  This made the news, the newscaster says
>>something like:  A hundred people try to escape to Jersey over the Abraham
>>Lincoln Bridge.
>>This Proves it's not in jersey.  There is no bridge named: The Abraham Lincoln
>>Bridge, but there is a bridge that connects new york to new jersey called
>>The George Washington Bridge.  That's the most famous president's names used.
>>anyway, if you cross the George Washington Bridge starting in New jersey,
>>you'll be in Gotham City.  Look around at night, maybe you'll see ol' Bats
>>swingin' around.
>>go ahead, try to prove me wrong!
>
>OK...
>
>According to the Atlas of the DC Universe, Gotham City is RIGHT across the 
>river from Metropolis... And Metropolis is RIGHT where NYC should be...
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>King Rat                       | "You got the power (Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!)"
>Josh Geurink, C.V.E.           | "You got the might (No way!)"
>_C_etrified _V_ampire _E_xpert | "Get ready for battle (Give me your money!)"
>aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu    | "Defeat the Black Knight!"
>`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'`:'
>warning:  I am now inserting a number of lines.  Hit "n" now!
>
>

If Metroplolis is right where NYC is then where's NYC because the JLA trashed it really badly in the Desperato story line.