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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:45:03 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Position at Georgetown

I've seen it at least twice; I think more.
From: SSLA@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Studies in Second Language Acquisition)
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Subject: SSLA address change
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:02:15 GMT
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Please note that the editorial office for the journal Studies in
Second Language Acquisition has moved and has a new address:

Albert Valdman, Editor
Studies in Second Language Acquisition
1105 E. Atwater
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405

Bitnet: SSLA@IUBACS
Internet: SSLA@UCS.INDIANA.EDU

Our phone number is still (812) 855-6874, but our new fax number is
(812) 855-2386. (Correspondence sent to our old address and fax
number will still be delivered to our office, but with a slight
delay.)

Tina Gikas O'Donnell, Assistant to the Editor
Shona Whyte, Editorial Assistant


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Please continue to send correspondence with Albert Valdman that does
not pertain to SSLA to:

Ballantine 602
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405
(812) 855-0097 (office)
(812) 855-2386 (fax)
Bitnet: VALDMAN@IUBACS
Internet: VALDMAN@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
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From: DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC)
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Subject: Anonymous query
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:21:17 GMT
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[Posted by Fred Davidson, SLART-L Manager]

I am posting this on behalf of a colleague who wishes to remain
anonymous.  Please respond/discuss by posting to SLART-L, not to
me directly.  Thank you.


**********************************************************

title: SLA and career as a foreign language teacher

This is an inquiry about the professional career of an SLA researcher
as a foreign language teacher.

1. It seems there is virtually no demand for SLA researchers in the
markets of less commonly taught language (LCTL) teachers:
Markets are predominantly literature-and-linguistics-governed.
Occasional "language program coordinator" positions are more
accessible to methodologists rather than SLA theorists. In short, there
is no niche secured for SLA researchers in the LCTL markets. Is there
a possibility that the situation will improve in the near future?

2. Is there a certain threshold of a number of learners beyond which
demands for SLA researchers emerge in the market? (A quarter
million?; A half million?)

3. How is it possible to make an expertise in SLA attractive to a search
committee consisting of amatures (i.e., those who do not know what
"interlanguage" means)? How can she effectively compete with PhD's
in literature or linguistics?

4. In case a student majoring in SLA of an LCTL fails to find a foreign
language teacher position, what alternative career possibilities should
she consider?

Thank you in advance for your attention.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:43:00 EDT
From:         "Cathy Ball" <CBALL@GUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: echoed posts

Speaking as one who spent several anxious days wondering whether my
posting had been eaten by a mail daemon, I vote for echoed posts!
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:32:23 EDT
From:         Dale Lally Carnegie Language Center St Lawrence University
              <DLALLY@STLAWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Interactive Video for ESL
              1 Oct 1992 13:51:20 CDT from <adcohen@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU>

IRT the interactive video disk in Spanish, could you provide more info?
Just Yesterday I was asked by a senior faculty member who teaches
Spanish about the availability of a ready-to-use Spanish video disk
program.  I would also like similar info about French, German and Japanese.
Any assistance appreciated!


Cordially

Dale V Lally Jr, Director
Carnegie Language Center
St. Lawrence University
Canton NY 13617
(315) 379 5857 VOICE
(315) 379 5989 FAX
DLALLY@STLAWU  BITNET
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From:         "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Trial subjects

[Forwarded from ltest-l@cn1.oac.ucla.edu]

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
                       Subject:
Time:12:17
  OFFICE MEMO          Trial subjects
Date:9/29/92
We are looking for trial subjects for materials for the Australian
Occupational English Test (OET) for health professionals.
The OET is a test of linguistic competence, and satisfactory
performance on it is a preliminary requirement for health
professionals trained overseas who wish to be registered for practice
in Australia.  The test includes sub-tests in the four macroskills.
We need to trial the materials for one version of the listening
sub-test and two versions of the reading subtest on as wide a range
of subjects as possible, of different nationalities and relevant
professional backgrounds.   As it is difficult to find appropriate
trial subjects in this country who are not potential candidates for
the test, or who pose no other threat to test security,  we are
searching for suitable trial subjects overseas.  The majority of test
candidates are doctors, but it is also administered to substantial
numbers of dentists and nurses, as well as much smaller numbers of
vets, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, speech pathologists,
dieticians, pharmacists, radiographers and podiatrists.  Trial
subjects from any of these fields would be suitable, particularly
those who have completed or are about to complete their professional
training.
We hope, ideally, to trial the tests between 20 October and 20
November, 1992.
Please reply by email, or by fax (or snail mail) to:
Tom Lumley, Language Testing Centre, Department of Linguistics &
Language Studies, University of Melbourne, Parkville, Victoria, 3052,
Australia
fax:  + 61 3 344 5163
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:18:53 EDT
From:         "(Brian Teaman)" <teaman@UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Posters' Feedback

Why not have SLART-L, send posted messages to the postperson?

I can think of two good reasons why this should be so and one (weak) reason why
not.

in favor:
-Posters' can be sure their letter was posted (immediate positive feedback)
-Posters' get immediate negative feeback if they send a personal letter to the
whole world.  Otherwise, they might never know of their blunder.

opposed:
-One more piece of mail unnecessarily sent.  (However if my first two arguments
are valid, this one is an impossible argument)

Any comments?

Brian Teaman
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:25:15 CST
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      I have to admit I'm proud as Hell of that fact!
Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list SBRHYM-L <SBRHYM-L@SBCCVM.BITNET>

Can't we jes' skip to the good scenes at the end.  The fire, the
desparate attempt, the terrible terrible grease explosions shattering
our ears and sending oily smoke up into a hazy night's sky.  McBane
drops his Uzi and grabs the girl...and so on ad nauseum.
;^##
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:20:05 EDT
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From:         "(Robert Holder)" <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      The People Who Had to Take the Bus
Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list SBRHYM-L <SBRHYM-L@SBCCVM.BITNET>

The people who had to take the bus finally decided that they
 had had enough of route changes, schedule changes, transfers
 and shitty bus drivers with their obnoxious inbred mutant
 wart covered faces.
FIRST, they forced the drivers, at gunpoint, to pull over
 between stops!  They boarded without exact change and made
 the drivers give them refunds for the difference with their
 personal money!  They lost their transfers, and boarded anyways
 and they got in the drivers' faces saying, "So what are ya gonna
 DO about it, huh? heh heh heh" and if the driver gave them any
 lip, they forced him to stand on a live bouncing betty at an
 uncovered bench in the pouring rain while being slapped about
 the face, ears and groin with used-chewing-gum-covered tennis
 shoes.
They hotwired the busses and stood, and shouted, and smoked in
 them and they tied the hoods who sit in the back seats to the
 bumper and dragged 'em a few blocks.
THEN they commenced to burning all the buses, driving them
 off of bridges, rolling them in heavy traffic, and the like.
 They commandeered fire trucks and hosed water into passing
 car windows near all the corners where the big puddles gather
 after a storm, and then they cut down all the traffic lights
 with chain saws.
They got on the phones, called the emergency operators, reported
 accidents, looting, flooding, riots, pickets, protests and
 people chaining themselves to fences, buildings, vehicles,
 smokestacks, each other and every other goddamned thing.  They
 came out in force.  They flooded the market with cheap bonds
 and they cordoned off the area.  They broadcast paid political
 announcements, showed their 1-800 number and set up a perimeter.
 They trounced the opposition, filed all the right forms, got all
 the sneakiest lawyers, ate their Wheaties and they beat the tar
 outta those heathen A-rabs.  Again.
They ruled America with an iron fist, those people who had to
 take the bus.  It was the golden age of the pedestrian hero.
 They made us all see it their way, and they straightened things
 out.  This November, VOTE for the people who had to take the bus!
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:15:41 CST
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      "Oil 5+ Midnight"
Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list SBRHYM-L <SBRHYM-L@SBCCVM.BITNET>

"Oil 5+ Midnight"

Wide world sing
We hold you
On a string
Waiting to
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang

Open up your home
It's over us
Thank your General's bloom
Victorious
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang

I don't see
I can't believe
What's this emerald dream
Come over me
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang
Bang bang bang
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:39:00 -05
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From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Susannah, Pt.2
Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list SBRHYM-L <SBRHYM-L@SBCCVM.BITNET>

Well, shoot.  That wasn't nobody but that d*mn Louella Jones's kid,
coming round asking about do I have some jumper cables, Mam-Maw's
having one of her spells again!  And he comes in without my even asting
him to and sets down on the rocker and knocks my spit cup on my brand
new Hanes!  Hadn't even finished unwrapping them yet!  D*mn kid!
I killed him.  Blew his f**l head clean off his shoulders.
Well, it's yabba dabba do time.
Talk At Ya'll Tomorrow.
Oh Shoot.  I just remembered.  I won't be here tomorrow.
Poor Anus Has Only Got A 5-Hour Life Span,

Ta Ta
and
Toot Toot,

Anus
Anus Brown
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      re: yr re: to my re: or hmmm.....concerning rh's new tag
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sounds...ok
From: JBURKE1@ITHACA.BITNET
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Date: 2 Oct 92 16:04:00 GMT
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        You're such a sneaky snake, but  please stay away from my root beer.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:01:00 -05
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From:         Dana Rollins <ROLLIDE@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Susannah's A Funny Old Man
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honk!
'Lo There, I'm a new character up which you may size, chew and (out)
spit the bones!  Hello!  Hey there!  Hiya Little Feller!
The name's Brown, Bee Are Oh Dubya En, Brown.  Anus Brown.  My friends
all call me Anus, but you can call me anything you want, long's you
call me to dinner!  Hee hee!
I just LOVE saying that!
Well, by dingos, someone's already a-beepin!

Now That's What I Call Friendly!
I'll Talk At You More Later,
Anus
Anus Brown
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      he steps on the clutch and the toilet goes flu-ush--
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people: hey.  who's that crazy busdriver sittin' in that crazy
busdriver busdriver's seat????
***********
WARNING!!! You may be a City Slicker if:

1)  You know the difference between a taxi and a cab.
2)  You went to a public school named after a gangster or policeman.
3)  Your dick's on backwards.
4)  You got your head up your ass.
5)  You'd starve if the diners all closed.
6)  Can't tell powdered eggs from dumplings.
7)  You hate most everybody.
8)  You call your mother by her stage name.
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
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now in this hour of discontent
mortals, weak, confide their souls
to gods of origins unknown
who dwell down deep within the holes
between what is and what should be
this hour a dead god for me
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From: laguvard@db.toronto.edu (Dimitris Lagouvardos)
Subject: test
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:14:43 GMT


ignore  
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      in response to mssr. holder's guide to power posting
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so you (what are clearly a fascist conspiratorial pig snot) masquerade
as a female on soc.fem.menstr.grrr!!  everyone on this list has either
forsaken genitals or masquerades as some perversion or another.  this
power posting business, of course, was INVENTED by SBRHYM-L years ago
back in the days that only pat knows about (that snivling fnording poo!)
SNOT--and we've gone well beyond that.  for example the previous example.
claiming list-ancientness.  of course i was BORN inside a Cyber 170 in
1979, not that i'm claiming anything or anything.  i don't need to.
everyone on this list nos i no everything and never resist me (except
the fools who are destroyed...that one still works fine).  well, anyway
for my taste, best puke the e-entrails of furry beasts on your opponent or
their forebearers, such as, yo' e-mama sucks the gonads of a fish with
liver shoved up her butt, and so on.  i got snotgobs of mucous for you, et
al.  (which only goes to show that we're not above stealing from
popular culture.)  so, now that i've spoken for everyone on this list,
everyone who was ever on it, and everyone who ever will be let me just
conclude by saying, my aunt moggie had three eyes on her back and did
fine things with licorice and led the fight for female suffrage in the
first state of the union to grant such.  my authority on all matters is
impeccable by nature of my being a member of this list.  indeed my bowels
are so filled that i hereby grant y'all this one indulgence.  thy spins
are for saken thee and thee all now gots PhDs (of yr choice) from
the Interstate College of the Americas (ICA) by the authority and so on such an
d so frothing at the mouth he cackled and turned upthe joose
Now I'll go back and read all the last weeks posts you've been busy beavers
and see once again how you always stay three steps ahead of me.  Thanks
my friends.
;^##
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From:         "(Robert Holder)" <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      in response to your response etc.
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i hereby slobberingly submit my grovelingly blubbering apology etc.
i will forthwith tender my new signature file for your approval. i
sat up all night working on it and i think it depicts my newfound
malessness as a text-based performance piece:

 asd..... XXXX lKJ DSLFA  sALKfj32152 *& &&&* &&&&&*& &*&(*&
(((((((((((((((healing->hope->harmony->happiness||||| %$#YH#YGKJCX
........ ....L.snx snxx chnx hrnx tymxx 1,3 1,3 zero AAAAAAAAAAAAA
asdflkj as dklkk 	asdlkf
		lkasdlk lksdaf  sdlfgoi
			lsafj ia v    a a             fdsa
robert h
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From:         GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject: re: Baseball ? (d part to gr4...)
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Aristocratic dishheads counting while rolling only backwards?
No, Artistotle's a workhorse for all that's pithy.  It doesn't
take a Kenneth Burke to see that the functionaries will not
totally drop from the equation unless deprived of all firepower,
of which they've plenty acquired these 175 yrs.  Not to mention
the point, you jack-ass, that even old coots run shit wild with
their heads up their butts and throw in with the wrong party.
South-Central maybe.  But, lo, this piece is continually recast;
'tis only you, my fiend Chi, who persists!!  Arven blue scandle,
44th and Alpine, Boulder.  May you all be overcome with American
processed cheese singles and squat!
ppppppplllppblblpppp!!!
;^##
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:18:57 EST
From:         Shirley Walker <IMSW400@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FOOTBAL
              29 Sep 1992 13:02:00 EST from <OSTAFFE%V381.decnet
              @NPT.NUSC.NAVY.MIL>

If Dan Marino and Keith develop the type of friendship that exists between
Keith and Randall then I'm sure he will express that.  As far as Dan using
those exact words 'My Boy' to show how close they are would depend on
Dan's familiarity with that 'slang' phrase.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:19:16 EDT
From:         David Pargman <pargman@MAILER.CC.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ABORTION: WHEN Does Human Life BEGIN?
              29, 92 11:14 am

Michael,
   This message has nothing to do with abortion or that character
who contaminated our sportpsych network with his propaganda.
I received a fax from Larry Brawley (I'm sure you did as well)
requesting that I double check that arrangements for hotel room
in Colorado Springs have been made for those of us who are arriving
before the conference begins.  My assumption is that all is
taken care of by the Sachs Travel Service Organization and that
all I have to do is show up with clean underwear and socks.
Let me know if I must do anything about room arrangements.
   See you soon,      David.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:34:05 MST
From:         "Ted L. Glenn" <tlglenn@CS.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: ABORTION: WHEN Does Human Life BEGIN?
              Malec x4131" at Sep 28, 92 10:43 pm

I ignored him the first time he posted something since I figured the list
admin would send a note to the guy and that would be that. Guess not.
--
Ted L. Glenn             "Don't worry, be happy!" <--Ack! Pffffhhht!
HI! I'm a .sig disinfectant. Please remove all viruses from your .signature.
"tlglenn%cs.arizona.edu"@ARIZVMS.BITNET {noao,allegra,uunet}!arizona!tlglenn
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