HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carasso@netcom.com (RDC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: CHUN LI'S WET PUSSY
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:27:51 GMT
Organization: PTA BOARD COUNCIL OF THE GREATER UNITED STATES


APPARENTLY THAT WHOLE UGLY KEYWORD THING IS REARING ITS UGLY HEAD AGAIN.

I FOUND THIS ARTICLE IN SOC.CULTURE.ARABIC:


> 2frjcomply@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>Keywords: RICE, DRIVING, SMALL PENIS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>I WILL KICK ALL YOUR ASSES IN SFII..any day I have a track record
> HEY YOU CHINESE LOSER YOU SUCK I CAN BEET YOU WITH ALL PERFECS WITH ANY
> CHAREKTER!!!!!  11 LOSSES MY ASS I BET YOU DON"T EVEN NOW HOW TO BLOK!!!!1
> I CAN"T BELEVE YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT, POSTING THAT CRAP THEN ACTING LIKE
> A CRYBABY WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE A PENIS!!!!!!!  WHY DON"T YOU LERN HOW TO
> TYPE AND STOP MAKING YOUR LINES WRAP TWICE AROND THE SCREEN.  I THINK YOU
> HAVE SOME KIND OF CHINESE HOSTILITY PROBLEM ASSHOLE, SO YOU CAN JUST GO
> FUCK YORSELF!!!!!!!11!!!
> 
> I AM THE BEST STRET FIGHHTER IN THE WORLD!!1!! I HAV NEVER BEEN
> BETEN!!!!! CHALLENGE ME AND I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!1!1!!!11


PLEASE TAKE SOC.CULTURE.CHINA OFF THESE CROSS-POSTS AND MAINTAIN SOME
KINDNESS WITH RESPECT TO OTHER PEOPLES POINTS OF VIEW.

PLEASE!

THANK YOU.


Raj-Er "M-x replace-string"







-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yeb@egr.msu.edu (        )
Subject: Re: cease fire
Originator: yeb@frith.egr.msu.edu
Reply-To: yeb@egr.msu.edu (        )
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:26:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.133943.25842@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>
>OK, why not?  I'll start:
>
>	Zhang1 Lao3 San1, wo3 wen4 ni3, ni3 di jia1xiang1 zai4 na3li3?
>
>					--Scott

How about:
	Ti2qi3 na4 song4 lao3 san1, liang3 kou3zi mai4 da4yan1.
From: dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Flood Donation
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:27:51 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes: 
> Note: I speak for myself on SCC from my own authorized account :-)

Understood, Sir.  But that doesn't give you a reason for all year jokes
when asked for no joke once.

>>Look, the guy is asking a legitemate question that the politics outsiders
>>like us would like to know.  As a frequent "quality monitor" of a respectable
>>publication, why don't you provide a serious answer.
>>
>>dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
> 
> See my disclaimer on the top?  :-)  :-)  :-)
> Am I allowed to speak for myself???

I meant that you might know the answer as a "monitor".  I did not ask you
to speak for anyone else.

> Am I supposed to have "a serious answer" ???

No, you are not supposed to, but you are asked to.

> I am as outside as you are in terms of IFCSS (membership?)  :-0  :-)

Yes, that's why I use "outsiders like *us*".  This damned English!  :-)
Our (Note: yours and mine, not mine solely) language makes the distinction!!

> If you follow SCC, you should see that the BJ LZ An Mong claimed that
> IFCSS would send money back in ONE MONTH, and you must have seen Eddie's
> posting on the subject today, and SCC hasn't seen the story from the
> other side, but according to Eddie's message, the BJ LZ An Mong's
> political masturbation show went nowhere and he didn't mention "donation
> money" until later in that show (he FK-ed IFCSS on MFN, then claimed to
> sue IFCSS for mail fraud, and then donation money), you should see how
> honest BOTH sides are ... :-)

That still hasn't answered the question. If you don't know, say don't know. :-)

dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

MONITOR: a lizard from Asia, reputed to give warning of the presence of
         crocodiles.  -- The Random House College Dictionary
From: xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse (Re: 6.4, green card, freedom...)
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12250
Reply-To: xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <29EBB698.7925@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>
>	i don't have to be quiet, but you need.  Because you need to to
>	quiet and patient to wait for your "blood card".

I never wanted it.

>+We do realize you are not qualified to "FiGht" for so-called 4-big-freedoms.
>
>	i wish you are qualified to make this type of judgement.

I am qualified to make judgement on every CCP ass-kissing apologist.

Hao
From: v999rke8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Wang Zhen, Fool's Day, and Li Xiao-lin
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <65500001@acf3.NYU.EDU>, hee@acf3.NYU.EDU (Enhua HE,333J MeyerHall,(212)998-pole,(718)783-5356) writes...
> 
> 
>In the afternoon of Dec. 31, I read the news on Wang Zhen's death posted 
>by Mr Li Xiao-lin, and I did not doubt it, because I learned that Mr Li
>Xiao-lin is Li Peng's son in this net before. You know, it is believed 
>the stories of this nature leak fast from Gao Gan (high-rank officials).
> 
>I was totally wrong this time; it seems our Vice-Chairman is pretty healthy. 
>So I read Mr. Li's note again, and found it was a joke meant for the
>Fool's Day. I was not prepared to be fooled before April 1, so...., here 
>is what I have to say: 
> 
> 
>Enhua from NYC 
>      
========================================================================

I read that "news" on March 31.  I hate it because it is not on April 1st.

In China every day is Fool's Day, as Yuan Mu did two or three years ago. I 
am tired of them. Here April 1st as Fool's day is not bad, but is enough.



Hsi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Keywords: calendar
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:17:42 GMT

yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>
>How old Chinese people calculated the season from lunar calender?

	Does anybody know?  I'm really curious.  :(
	Come to think of it, I remember a source.  Si1-ma3 Qian2 (Han 
	Dynasty) wrote the Record of the Historian (Shi3 Ji4) which contains
	the Han4 Shu2 treatises with a section devoted to the history and
	description of the CALENDAR.  This reliable source should be able to
	answer the question.
	Can some good researchers check on that?  Greatly appreciated.

====================================>.sig <===================================
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 *The American Radio Relay League:  Amateur Radio >>---> A National Resource
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: ...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:38:02 GMT

Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.

In article <204761@unix.cis.pitt.edu> yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.205701.12582@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>We come here not for democracy , but for money ( or opportuinties , whatever
  ^^^ = 95%+ of us

>>comes to mind).
>>
>
>Oh oh, don't spread this to the ear of George Bush ;-<>

  But , Yijun , when George had lived in China for some years , how could he
know nothing about the sharp difference of incomes and financial support 
between two countries ? Even if he didn't have the experience , he can also get
some hints from students from other poor asian countries .
  The president of USA , George Bush , must be a wise man .
  What I hate most is cheating . Using politcs as an excuse to arrive personal
aims is not a honest behavior . To us chinese students , I think we understand
this point too well . ( " You Know , I Know , The Heaven Know .")
  By the way , I earnestly hope all the chinese who hope to stay in USA can get
what they want , and live a comfortable life here . Just like foreign students
from other countries . ( Ren2 Ge4 You3 Zhi4 ===  Each person has distinct 
needs .)

>
>-- 
>/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
>/* open your window and get something fresh */




Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Prof. Fang Li-Zhi about oversea Chinese students returning to China
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:26:20 GMT

In article <9394@riscsm.scripps.edu> jzzhang@scripps.edu (Jimmy Z. Zhang) writes:
>Last night, Prof. Fang Li-Zhi gave a public lecture at UCSD about science
>and politics in China.  During the question session, I asked him about:
>Recently Deng welcomed oversea Chinese students to return to China.  What

>P.S.  No flame please.

P.S.  No flame please. 

>P.P.S.  Though I think Prof. Fang raised a good point on above question, I
>don't totally agree with all of his points, such as some political views,
>his interpretation of some social and political phenomena, and his (or as he

I either , after browsing some books representing his points . But I find
his opinions are more acceptable than before , after he arrived US for half
a year .

>claimed, his friend's) prediction that after the central government becomes
>weakened or collapsed, the Chinese people will go to make money and war(s)

Chinese people have already begun to make the money .

>between armies (like former USSR) will be unlikely.

No one expected Germany could launch another world war after the first one .
No one expected its attack of USSR , after the dirty Munich meeting .
No one expected the complete breaking of USSR .
No one expected US would lost completely Vietnam War .
No one expected the WarLord period after the death of Yuan .
No one expected the seizing of Chiang at Xi An .
No one ... ( next time )

An unlikely thing can happen , without precaution .

P.P.S. No one expected Chairman Wang were dead on April 1 .
From: ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU (IFCSS HQ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: IFCSS NR3071: Call for Hosting the 4th Congress
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:31:07 GMT

*******************************************************************
  IFCSS Headquarters Office News Release No. 3071, April 12, 1992 
           Call for Members to Host the 4th Congress
*******************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars in the U.S. 
      733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C. 20005   
              Phone:(202)347-0017  Fax:(202)347-0018   
                    E-mail:IFCSS@CSCWAM.UMD.EDU   
  
   
IFCSS Member Organizations:

IFCSS will hold its 4th Annual Congress this summer.  Here IFCSS
calls its member organizations to host the Congress.

If any IFCSS member organization is willing to host the 4th
Congress, please contact IFCSS before Thursday, April 16th.     

*******************************************************************
            IFCSS Headquarters Office (Signature)   
*******************************************************************
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Tibet and ...
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:44:40 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <9204021423.aa21423@concour.cs.concordia.ca> gui@CONCOUR.CS.CONCORDIA.CA writes:
>you bet most ordinary 
>Tibetans would have wholeheartedly agreed:  who would love to be 
>plundered by those "freedom fighters" (the Dalai Lama's words --see 
>Freedom in Exile)?

Whether a person is a bandit or a freedom fighter depends heavily on
your politics.  I have no idea which most ordinary Tibetans thought,
but I would not be surprised if they sympathized with the bandits.  On
the other hand I would not be surprised if they didn't.
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Ugly Chinese
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:17:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <1992Apr16.221500.1965@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
->In article <skmekINN7c0@agate.berkeley.edu>, river@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
-><
-><          These include those are against the bill that protects 
-><          Chinese students and scholars.
->
->Protects them from what?
->
->					--Scott

Protects them from being poor again.

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiao-lin li <xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:25:42 -0500

In article <205051@unix.cis.pitt.edu> yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>
>If you read the article, then the article is worth reading to you?

You are lucky to get response from me this time, because I
saw something regarding Xiaolin Li. Can't help. But who else
cares your junky article?

>You mean the law of 'respect privacy'. Are you a public finger, as you
>and Li Peng are related ;-)

You see that is exactly the case. Many people believed me as Li Peng's
son before. So they tried to bombard me and fuck me. If I were Li Peng's
son, I would have definitely the political target. I would have to
share the crime committed by Li Peng. To aim at a political target is not
against law, that is the very spirit of free speech. 

>So you conmitted a 'so minor' crime. By the way, do you mean that all your 
>letters are searched by Li Peng?  :-) :-) :-)

Yes, many people did that. Even Dr. King did it. That is social
disobedience. It is a political weapon against something powerful
but wrong. 

I don't think Li Peng personally searched my letters, but he might 
have read some of them as he suspects that my letter might concern
his daughter. :-)

>/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
>/* open your window and get something fresh */

Xiao Li
From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:10:04 GMT
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.


In article <1992Apr12.151254.1770@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, 88p8337@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au (Antartica Archer(tm)) wrote:

+In article <29E64837.10332@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
+
+> nothing new in this msg, all the voices have been made by me on scc several
+> times:
+> 
+> 1. India and Mexico have more "freedoms" than China, why didn't they
+>    go there?
+> 
+> 2. In China, people cannot pursue what they want by people themselves,
+>    because of CCP.  Hey!  In the US, there is no CCP in power, why don't
+>    they get green cards by themselves rather than thru "I don't like to
+>    go home, becasue those CCP guys will bet me".
+
+  What's wrong for some people try to stay at some certain place of this
+space ship ? What ever reason it appear is, the essential reason is that
+China (in some extend, Asia) is too much over populated and the rest of 
+this planet has the responsibility to share this burden. Furthermore, those
+burden of China/Asia may become treasure for other parts of this world.  

	Nothing wrong with people's moving around.  But, they should seek
	normal avenues to do this.  To move to the US thru putting their
	own government for sale is an non-ethical approach.

+> 5. These "6.4 green cards" shall be called as "red cards" becasue they
+>    reflect 6.4. victims' blood.
+
+  I guess you're drunk, goddamn illogical. If those people did not apply
+for green card, would 6.4 victims regain their lives ? 

	We are talking about the 6.4 "green cards", not normal ones.
	
+> 
+> 10. I myself came to the US before 6.4.  But don't forget my voice on 6.5 of
+>     1989.  "Don't cry for your Chinese coffins be4 the White House".
+> 
+ 
+  What I see is some people scare to dead as seeing more and more people
+had got their green cards because they themself lose more and more
+oppotunities and face more and more competitors. Earlier migrant
+having hatred toward new migrant is very common, for human being or other
+animals.

	I myself is not an immigrant, and I have NOT seen anything as
	you described as yet.  

shannon
-------
From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: appendix to "4 big freedom"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.214056.25738@medsys.rn.com>, bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System) wrote:

+In article <29DFBFC6.15158@orion.oac.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
+>
+>    --|--|--  __\|/___  _|==|__  /==|==   ==|== ---/    ____\____      |
+>    __|__|__  | |==| |   / |-      |==|   --|--  | \    | / | \ |      /\
+>      /  \       /|__\  /|_|___   ==||==    |    |\/      --|--|      /  \
+>    				  --||--                    | \|     /    \
+>
+>    ===|=== ===|    ___\____    /--|/---|
+>      /|-   |__\    | ---/ |     |-|  / |
+>     /\|_______        /\/       |_|   \|
+>       		 /|\
+>                       \| \
+>
+
+That is why CCP must keep people poor so there is always poor people
+who need help. If people were rich, there would be no reason for CCP
+to be there.
+
+Chou1

I do not agree with your statement: CCP did try to get some people rich first,
but the Chinese "intellectures" did not agree because those bookwares are
less competitive when the government send them to the marketplace.

shannon
-------
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Flood Donation
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:55:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr14.205609.2827
Organization: Indiana University

This posting replies to both Eddie and Xiaofei on the same subject
(sorry to put you two's name together :-)

In article <3888@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu
(Eddie Cheng) writes:
>xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>>
>|If you follow SCC, you should see that the BJ LZ An Mong claimed that
>|IFCSS would send money back in ONE MONTH, and you must have seen Eddie's
>|posting on the subject today, and SCC hasn't seen the story from the
>|other side, but according to Eddie's message, the BJ LZ An Mong's
>|political masturbation show went nowhere and he didn't mention "donation
>|money" until later in that show (he FK-ed IFCSS on MFN, then claimed to
>|sue IFCSS for mail fraud, and then donation money), you should see how
>|honest BOTH sides are ... :-)
>
>
>	WAIT A MINUTE, I think you put too much stuff after "according to
>Eddie's message" !!!   :-(
>
>	I hope "my message" would survive.  --- aka Tsongas.    :-)
>
>    Eddie

Sorry, I should have said "comparing Eddie's message to BJ LZ An Mong's
claim ...".

And, so far the other party has NOT said anything (from very beginning)
on SCC about the aborted lawsuit and only the BJ LZ An Mong made some
mess on SCC and retreated ... ... :-)


In article <1992Apr14.151137.26141@acsu.buffalo.edu> xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu
(XiaoFei Wang) writes:
>/* From the keyboard of xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) */:
>:
>:Note: I speak for myself on SCC from my own authorized account :-)
>:
>I felt so much relieved knowing Bo Xiong's account is an authorized one. 

Is this your 4th time relief?  :-)  :-)  I said this more than once in merely
a week, you'll have more relief in this regard if so desired :-)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bo Xiong in Chicago
From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse (Re: 6.4, green card, freedom...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:40:21 GMT

xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu) wrote:

+In article <1992Apr14.202913.15676@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> srzhang@mth.msu.edu (Shuren Zhang) writes:
+>>>Before 1989 TAM, Shannon went back to Beijing and had a fight against
+>>>CCP leaders at various levels.  Those leaders rendered personal
+>>>persecution to him.  
+>>
+>>And he told us he had freedom of speech in China. What a disgrace liar
+>>and backboneless ...
+>
+>The persecution/(his speech) was small.  One time persecution out of 
+>100 speeches.
+
+The "specch" in "freedom of speech" is not limited to verbal speech.
+Anything that expresses a view counts, e.g. burning the flag, refuese
+to attend the "political study", or strike. Well, let's not talk in
+the dark. Why not tell what Shannon did then, if Shannon permits?
+At least we can make a better judgement.

first, although i have the "freedom of speech" to say Cao\(fuck) Ni\/(your)
Ma\(mother), but, if i exercise this "freedom of speech", you will be
angry.  Similarly, freedom does not mean you can do whatever you like.
For example, if you drive too fast on the "free"way, you will ticketed.
Furthermore, even in the US, flag burning is not a good thing.

Second, who are you?  How come you can make judgement on what i have done?

/ /---/     __\__  __\__       ---|---          |-----|
|   |         |      |        -----/---         |     |        ?
|  /|\      / |\   / | \          /|====\       /     |___\

sorry for being implight to you.  But, to deal with the Xu-Hao-like people,
that's the only way and best way.

shannon
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:13077 talk.bizarre:11255
From: kniaz@cat4.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.bizarre
Subject: BIFF LIVES!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:50:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Apr15.215059.628
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


	Scott!!! Don't look!  The grammar and spelling here would
	probably send you into conniptions...

>>I WILL KICK ALL YOUR ASSES IN SFII..any day I have a track record
>> HEY YOU CHINESE LOSER YOU SUCK I CAN BEET YOU WITH ALL PERFECS WITH ANY
>> CHAREKTER!!!!!  11 LOSSES MY ASS I BET YOU DON"T EVEN NOW HOW TO BLOK!!!!1
>> I CAN"T BELEVE YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT, POSTING THAT CRAP THEN ACTING LIKE
>> A CRYBABY WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE A PENIS!!!!!!!  WHY DON"T YOU LERN HOW TO
>> TYPE AND STOP MAKING YOUR LINES WRAP TWICE AROND THE SCREEN.  I THINK YOU
>> HAVE SOME KIND OF CHINESE HOSTILITY PROBLEM ASSHOLE, SO YOU CAN JUST GO
>> FUCK YORSELF!!!!!!!11!!!
>> 
>> I AM THE BEST STRET FIGHHTER IN THE WORLD!!1!! I HAV NEVER BEEN
>> BETEN!!!!! CHALLENGE ME AND I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!1!1!!!11

	Ok Scott, you can open your eyes now...

	This looks like the work of a disciple of the infamous 
	Biff.  Just ignore it and it will go away...

     ______________________________________________________________________
    / "Lo, Though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death,       /
    \    I fear not!                                        ______________\
    /  For I am the biggest son-of-a-bitch in the valley." / My favorite  /
    \______________________________________________________\ expression...\
    / Joel Kniaz   kniaz@garfield.cs.wisc.edu  kniaz@jomby /      __i     /
    \______________________________________________________\_yiLballe(Mu)_\
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3 (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:34:30 GMT

In article <hao.703213578@slipknot.mit.edu> hao@slipknot.mit.edu (Cindy Hao) writes:
>
>>Certainly.  These "d-fighters" deliberately provoked a violent response
>>from the Chinese government three years ago so that they could get their
>>_xue4 raad a more liberal ska3_.  They'd do it again if they had the chance.
This is serous, but partially true charge! the motivations of most people who
joined demo were mostly pure, sincere! It is hard to tell how much role of
green card concern played role among the CSS outside China! 
If China had a more liberal society(not with chaos), the green card could 
not be a political motivation!
>
>>					--Scott
>
>Perhaps.  So I think it's better to let them get their green cards and 
>stay in the US.  This way, they will do less damage to China.
>
>					--Cindy Hao
>
>
>
>-- 
>hao@slipknot.mit.edu 	        (617)253-7458