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From: pankaj@bass.bu.edu (Pankaj Tyagi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H1 Visa trip to Eastern/Central Canada, Info request
Summary: Info request on Trip to Canada for H1-B Visa.
Keywords: Quebec,Toronto,Halifax,H1-B,Visa
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:10:46 GMT
Reply-To: pankaj@bass.bu.edu (Pankaj Tyagi)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: USA
Organization: Boston University


Hi there,
	Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I'd really appreciate if any one
can give me pointers to the information regarding how are the
conditions in Easter/Central Canadian, US Counsulates for getting H1-B
visas.

      o	I am looking for experiences in Quebec, Toronto, Montreal
	and Halifax. 

      o	Also I have heard that it takes about two working days
	to get an H1-B visa in Quebec/Montreal/Toronto. How is 
	Halifax? Any experiences there? How about any other 
	place? I am from Boston so I thought logistically 
	Eastern/Central Canada would be a good choice.
	
      o	I would also like to know if there are any other prospective
	H1 visa holders planning trips to get there Visa. I'd like 
	to work out the details of trip with any such interested
	party.


	Thanks for you patience.


Pankaj Tyagi

H (617)-720-5374
O (617)-225-0967x218

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From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!!!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 04:27:36 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

 ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>Rajiv Gandhi was killed.  I personnaly wish that all those who were involved
>should be hanged.

or castrated


suresh
From: rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:32:02 GMT
Organization: ------------------------

From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

> All the smart =="We" & "You" == highlighted references deleted. 
> Glad to see that even die-hard Indians realise that Kashmir and India
> are two distinct entities. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

 India is made  of entities. That is  our strength. 

 This die hard Indian, was addressing some ELEMENTS  of an  entity and
 NOT AN ENTITY itself, who in the name of uniqueness are causing  pain 
 and suffering to ALL. 

 It does not require much intelligence,to differentiate this subtlity. 
 All but one, seem to have noted it. Well ! there are reasons: 

   PEOPLE brought up in systems  which advocates  "Mutual Exclusiveness"
   will NOT understand what it is to accept diversity and other concepts 
   like "coexistance". 

   Moreover some such PEOPLE,have their axe to grind and their wounds to
   lick [1971 fiasco]: And so  would usurp  and assist trouble in India. 
   Perpetually harassing her. 

 Thanks for the  gentleman to have  helped  to bring  out  this  aspect, 
 "inadvertantly" though. 

 That gentleman  should feel  free to take  back those  smilies, or can 
 continue to  crown and  pat  himself  as  the winner  in  the  game of 
 "silly-dribble-the-words". 

Krithi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: soni@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu ()
Subject: Australian Natn'l University
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:09:58 GMT


Hey!
Anyone From A.N.U. reading this?
Please respond...
I am trying to get in touch with someone in the
geology dept. there...
thanks...
Harsh.
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RAMAJANMA BHUMI: AYODHYA-New Archaeological Discoveries
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:25:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucunix.BxIGEE.BKM
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <92315.102137RKD100@psuvm.psu.edu> <RKD100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Raj Bhatnagar seems to think that Hindus need to defend"native" beliefs
>etc.. for some vague reason.                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, I just posted a long response to Mohammad Nadeem's response and I 
am sure you will find in that posting what you call the "vague reasons."
Its not the native beliefs that need to be defended, but the rights of
any Indian to practice any kind of belief that need to be defended, and 
these rights are constantly being taken away from regions of India that are
becoming either formal or de-facto Dar-ul-Islams.


>If he's looking for reasons to run around
>biting people that's his priviledge but the fallacy of the claim that
>Hindu beliefs are more "native" than Islam appears demonstrable as follows:

Hindu beliefs do not stop you from practicing Islam's religious aspetcs,
but the moment a region becomes dar-ul-Islam (Pakistan, B Desh, attempted
one in Kashmir, and sights on Kerala, NE, WB etc.)your rights to practice
any beliefs except Islam get taken away. And it is in that sense that native
beliefs need to be defended. 

>If define: x IS NATIVE IF " it was born in India"
> then hinduism is foreign, the vedas having been born on the steppes and
>being the religion of the aryans and what not...So raj should resign
>his moral imperatorship and his position as high priest of the pure
>native blood-line and submit himself to purification by the Bhils,
>Gonds, Nagas and other original inhabitants of the country (so far
>as I know, correct me if I'm wrong here.. who are are the pre-aryan
>inhabitants I'm thinking of? (net-scholars help!!!)). On the other hand,
>if define: x IS NATIVE IF "it was developed in India"
> implies that Islam as practiced by Indian Muslims is Indian too, as
>their pratices are quite distinct in many ways from practiceselsewhere
>so it is native as Hindusim.  Basically Raj is saying that he is a true
>Indian all who are muslims are not.  I refuse to agree that this has
>any truth value at all.   I have no problems with Raj's bigotry,
>which is too well documented to comment on, just his schlocky logic.

You insist on refusing to see my point and obfuscating the issue - 
Go ahead, nobody will stop you. 

>The least he can do is show us some respect by being a bit more
>rigorous in his argumentation of his bigotry.  Now that would be fun!
>Not!  'nyhow regards and 'bye for now^^^^^^^

HA. . . . . . 

May be you need to practice your word-meanings!


---raj
From: mpmehta@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Manish P. Mehta  ISE Grad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: khalistan
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:30:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University, Athens, Ohio
Originator: mpmehta@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu

From oucsace!oucsboss!att-out!ucbeh.san.uc.edu!malgudi.oar.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ncar!noao!arizona!optima.UUCP Tue Nov 10 12:13:41 EST 1992
Article: 122918 of soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@optima.UUCP (Venkata Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:08:58 GMT

>Some levity to this khalistan discussion...

>What will be the national anthem of khalistan?
> Sten-a-gun-a mana athi nayaka.....

>What will be the  national song of khalistan?
> Yeh-bullet meri jaan manzilon ka nishaan...  (Remember Enfield Bullet?)

>
>What will be the national bird of khalistan?
>  Tandoori chicken

>What will be the national drink of khalistan?
>  Sharbat khalsa

>What will be national food of khalistan?
>  Akali Dhaal


>Hmmmmm...Have forgotten the rest. 

>Peace/No offence meant/Just kidding etc etc., 

>-Venkat

What is the name of the wall between india and khalistan?
Longowal(l)

What is the name of the nala(small stream of water) in khalistan?
Bar-nala

What is the name of main road in capital of khalistan?
Jasbirsingh Ro(a)d

-This inclusion is just for fun and not meant to hurt any  person's feelings to
 wards those personalities. If any body has any thing to say about this please 
send email to mpmehta@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu...
please don't start another  fight on the SCI. 

-Manish
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Doki's bible..
Date: 11 Nov 1992 10:09:12 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Doki writes:
reminds me of another psalm for the bible:    (psalms 81:11)
open thy mouth wide and i will fill it up for you.
suresh

	Yea, I know how you fill your mouth with your own feet. Seems you've
	learnt the Bible well. Now if you would just go hang yourself... :)

	FFT
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Ed Crick
Date: 13 Nov 1992 02:16:23 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov13.013213.22880@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.185039.19646@reed.edu> gsinghma@reed.edu (Gaurav Singhmar) writes:
>>
>>If anyone has any old posts on or about our man Ed Crick, I would very  
>>much appreciate it if you would mail them to me. I'm doing a psychological  
>>case study on him, and I lost most of his old articles when I our  
>>brilliant superusers here erased my directory without reason (a Surrealist  
>>act you might say).
>>
>Ah yes, another amateur net psychologist joins the fray of those analyzing
>me.  And I am exaggerating when I say amateur.  Your analyses would be much
>less suited for a clinical audience than for other equally incompetent,
>Freud-wannabes like yourself.  Why don't you try finding real patients,
>one's you can talk to and get to know, or will no-one talk to you.  Poor,
>pathetic little boy, he has no friends and plays by himself, with himself.
>

Yes and I suggest PITA elect Sreehari Nimmala. They seem destined for each 
other. 

Returning to the question of psychoanalysis, it seems that our little shrink
wannabe takes after the kind of ignorant, bucolic and unemployed roadside
palmists that you see in any major city in India. His credibility to appreciate
much less undertake such a study stems neither from the artistic surrealism of 
Salvadore Dali nor from the equally arcane concepts espoused by Jean Paul
Satre. A question of life immitating art? Hardly, since plagiarism of certain
innovative flames coming from your account seems to be the primary motive and
the need to get those, the overriding desire.





>>BTW, if enough want, I'll post my essay sometime in January.
>
>May I remind you that any publication of you "psychoanalysis" could be
>considered a violation of confidentiality, and thereby would be subject to
>legal recourse.  I suggest that you avoid SERIOUS trouble for yourself and
>your department by dropping this pretense of a clinical study.
>


It also needs mentioning that any articles posted to this or any other net
remain the intellectual property of the original poster and may *NOT* be
posted again (in part or completely)to a public domain without the consent of 
the original author. To do otherwise would involve an infringement of copyrightlaws and could result in suspension of the account from which the article
was posted. 


Samit

>Ed Crick
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: khalistan
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:08:35 GMT

hsingh@seas.gwu.edu (harmel singh) writes:

>just adding for fun...
>    
>when do u know u have been captured by khalistani  terrorist ?

>there firing squad  , stands in a circle .

>cheers
>hari.


One more for the fun....

If you don't like humor then press n or N.

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Bye
Adil
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From: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (S.Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian History
Keywords: Dravidians, Aryans
Date: 15 Nov 92 00:43:37 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <BxKECH.Hur@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar
- Electrical Engineering) writes:


       >Now, reading your response I am reminded of this 'joke':
       >
       >A guy was attending a series of lectures on the attrocities
       >comitted by Hitler and vivid video clips were used to support
       >and in comprehending the gruesome nature of those attrocities
       >( truck loadful of skeleton-like live human beings, gas chambers,
       >torturous medical experiments done on jews....).
       >
       >At the end, this guy was asked what he thought of the series;
       >his reply was:
       >
       >            I think Mr.Hitler's mustache was a bit short !

       >Selva Selvakumar

Outrageous. I wonder how a person can concentrate on Hitler's
"mustache" when he is being shown gruesome torture.

Similarly, there is this person who heard a discourse
on Ramayana for hours at length. Finally, his only concern (as he
later revealed) was whether Ravan was a Dravidian.


S Ramakrishnan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: sound files for hindi songs
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 12:15:09 GMT


In article <1992Nov3.180221.864@PA.dec.com> dhingra@wsl.dec.com (Satyendra Dhingra) writes:
>
>Are there any anonymous ftp sites which contain sound
>files for hindi songs, alternatley, if you have one
>can you post it to net.

nic.funet.fi:pub/culture/music/indian/samples/
password: <your e-mail>

Please, take the readme file too.

Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: lssk@lut.ac.uk (S Karnavar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ancient Indian History and "Bhasham"
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:45:10 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.



   The warriors in this debate on Indian History have come out with interesting
variations for the name of the celebrated author of that wonderful book called
"The Wonder that was India: A survey of the history and culture of the Indian
Subcontinent before the coming of the Muslims". From the spellings, it seems
that he is Bhashyam Iyengar in disguise, just like our 'Seshappaiyer' and
'Mokshamulla Bhatta'.

But he is English and his full name is Arthur Llewellyn Basham. He wrote this
book while he was in London. Later he became a Professor in Australia. In the
Preface of the book he described himself as a 'mleccha' interested in India.

Incidentally, 'Wonder that was India' was the favourite book of Indira Gandhi.

Basham died in 1986. We are indebted to him for this monumental work.

Somasekhar
From: hjohar@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Hardeep Johar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Cawnpore, Nagpore, AND JABALPORE
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:52:12 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <45476@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:

>NB: See a movie called "The Deceivers".. It stars a famous English actor
>(I don't recall his name)

Pierce Brosnan. Excellent film based on the excellent book of the same
name by John Masters. I've missed all the discussion on this "book
about thugs" and so I cannot say how much of the book and movie are
based on documented history but I should note that John Masters was
never an indophile (For example, Bhowani Junction shows elements of
racism) and I would'nt take what he writes as the gospel truth. Both
the book and the movie (Merchant Ivory) are very engrossing though.

Hardeep.

P.S. Would someone mail me the author and title about this "book about
thugs"? Thanks.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,ba.housing
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Subject: House for Rent in North Valley (San Jose)
Originator: asp@as04
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Distribution: ba
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From: I.Buchh@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Irshad Buchh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: KASHMIR MOTION IN BRITISH PARLIAMENT
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:27:03 GMT



London, Nov 2 (KPI):

Mr. Roger Godsiff, Labour MP and Chairman of the All Party British Kashmir 
Parliamentary Association has tabled an early day motion in the British
Parliament October , 28, 1992, urging the British government to take the lead
in raising the right of self-determination for the Kashmiri People.

The motion has been seconded by Mr. Jimmy Boyce and Mr. Alan Meale, both
Labour MPs. The text of the Early Day Motion tabled by Mr. Roger Godsiff
on 28th October 1992:

	"Right of the Kashmiri People to Self-Determination. That this house
	 records that on 27th October 1947 troops occupied most of the state
	 of Jammu and Kashmir and that 45 years later those occupying forces
	 still remain; calls on Her Majesty's Government to vigorously support
	 the United Nations Resolutions of 1948, 1949 and 1960 which upheld
	 the rights of the Kashmiri People to Self-Determination through a
	 United Nations supervised plebiscite thereby fulfilling the explicit
	 commitment made to the people of Kashmir by Lord Mountbatten, the
	 last Viceroy of India; expresses the gravest concern at the reports
	 of human rights abuses in Kashmir; and urges Her Majexty's Government
	 to take the lead in raising these matters in the United Nations."

Mr. Godsiff had, earlier stressed at the Kashmiri Black Day demonstration
held on 27 October, 1992, "We need to make the British government take up the
question of Kashmir back to the U.N. for redeeming the world community's pledge
to the people of Kashmir."

Mr. Godsiff who is Labour MP from Birmingham Small Heath said," Kashmir is the
unfinished business of British Imperial presence in the sub-continent. He said
that the British people are deeply concerned by the appalling violations of 
the human rights in Kashmir, and India must be forced to stop them."

He added, "there is no right in international law by which India can keep
Kashmir as a part of its territory. Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris; neither
to India nor to Pakistan."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: Cawnpore, Nagpore, AND JABALPORE
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:47:52 GMT

partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:

>NB: See a movie called "The Deceivers".. It stars a famous English actor
>(I don't recall his name), Sayeed Jafree, Sashi Kapoor, Neena Gupta.
>It was very very realistic in depicting thugs. If you read the book
>on thugs and see this movie you'll really like it.

I don't like getting my history from the movies, but I did see this one.
I think the actor was Pierce Brosnan. The movie seemed to imply that eating
gur laced with some type of drug brought on the urge to kill. Can you shed
any light on this or is this just artistic license?

-hd
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian History
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:13:56 GMT

In article <4eyJJqC00WBMM2V55e@andrew.cmu.edu> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
>>for the posterity. Indeed Dr. Radhakrishnan goes to the extent of 
>>saying that anybody who has not read Rg veda (and has not appreciated
>>the poetic beauty of the hymns) cannot claim himself to be a vedanthist.
>
>Me so stupid. Never knew the name 'Radhakrishnan' except for that Iyer'
>relative back home. And what is 'vedanthism' Thank you. I'm doing fine
>without it.
>
>>Again in all matters of the relationship between the Brahman and the Self,
>>it is the individual self to draw any conclusions that he seems fit
>>in his pursuit of seeking the Brahman. So If Shankara comes and
				********
>
>Sorry, I'm not seeking a Brahmin. Does 'he' posses the power to impart
			  ********
>true knowledge? Or he just makes the 'native' to look up the Aryan
>culture/race?
>

	Brahman was meant and not a Brahmin. BrahAm means supreme 
	being, etc. and a Brahmin is one who is supposed to pursue
	that being.

J Anand.

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From: scbst4+@pitt.edu (Sarita C Bhatt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Matrimonial
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:40:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: scbst4@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu

LOOKING FOR A BRIDEGROOM FOR A FRIEND

Hi,

	My friend is an interesting, fun-loving woman, 
settled in US and working at a university. 
	She is looking for someone who is smart, outgoing
and "ONE IN A MILLION" person. (Also, he should not be a
vegetarian or a smoker). 
	If you are that person or know of someone,then send me 
an e-mail and I'll forward her Tel.# to you.
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Presidential Trivia
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:00:13 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Nov9.163558.17578@informix.com>, amara@informix.com (Amar Ananthapadmanabha) writes:
> In article <1diaq7INNs2k@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>>
>>		Presidential Trivia
>>
>>  India'a president Shankar Dayal Sharma and US president-elect Bill
>>Clinton were both born on August 19. Can't say if this is auspicious,
>>considering that Rajiv Gandhi was born on August 20.
> 
> Thanks for the info! As to the auspiciousness of their birthdate, don't
								    ^^^^^
> worry. They share their birthday with me. :-) :-)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      

	*That's* precisely what we are worried about :)

> 
> Amar Ananthapadmanabha
> amara@informix.com


	rAjAt.
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