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From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: B&W Speaker Opinions?
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:47:15 GMT

  I know these four guys who are looking for speakers in about
the $400-$700 (US) range.  They are planning to buy the same kind
of speakers from the same store in hopes of getting a bigger
discount than if they bought the speakers individually.  Three of
them are novices when it comes to speakers and one is a big B&W
fan.  They have been looking at the 200 through 600 series speakers
from B&W.
  I don't personally like the sound of the B&W speakers in question,
but I'm not that familiar with other speakers in this price range.
I'd hate for the three novices to go along with the B&W fan without
first auditioning other (possibly better?) speakers that are
comparably priced.
  If anyone has any opinions of the B&W speakers, either pro or
con, I'd like to hear them.  And if you don't like the B&W's, 
please suggest some possible alternatives.  I'll pass along this
information to my friends (and post a summary to the net if there's
interest).  Reply by email or post; I read both regularly.
  Thanks very much in advance.

-- 
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  /\ \ \ \  Anshu Prasad                        stud1b53@bnr.ca
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/_/  \_\    All opinions are my own, not my employer's, BNR Ltd

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen)
Subject: Lencoclean analysis wanted
Organization: CTI Software BV, The Hague, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:57:59 GMT

Hello NetLand,

Has anyone ever analysed Lencoclean?

There's nowhere I can get this stuff anymore,
and I've got hundreds of records that are addicted.

I've heard many times it's just ethanol and water,
but that just does not look the same floating on
the record surface.
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Laan Copes van Cattenburch 70       phone  : +31 70 3542302
2585 GD The Hague, The Netherlands  fax    : +31 70 3512837
From: dalton@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (david dalton)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:48:28 GMT
Subject: Re: dedicated Stax headphone amplifiers
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.audio

There was an article written by Joe Curcio on just this subject
in the 0/88 edition of GLASS AUDIO.  It is for the SRX-IIIA
headphones, but slight modifications could make it work for 
other Stax models as well.  My analog guru says that this design
doesn't have enough drive, so he built a modified version that 
had more drive; not difficult.  I plan to build one of these 
Real Soon Now (in my copius spare time).

As for the jacks, I believe they are standard DIN plugs.


____________________________________________________________
David Dalton        dalton@cup.hp.com           408/447-7133    
  Engineer: A machine for converting beer into blueprints.       
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: TALIRANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Tero Aliranta Tkkk)
Subject: Re: Yamaha RX-V1050
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:38:33 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Nov04.224603.29336%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu writes:

> TALIRANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Tero Aliranta Tkkk) writes:
> 
> >Retailers here haven't even heard about that model, so could someone post me
> >information about Yamaha RX-V1050.
> 
> Similar to the RX-V850, but with 100(+?) watt amps for front and
> center channels, 30(?) watts for rears, and S-Video inputs/outputs.

RX-V660 is the best model anyone has heard about here, so........


> 
> It has also recently been posted that the 1050 has a cleaner internal
> design than the 850 and even the DSP-A1000, resulting in better sound.
> 
> Has anyone seen the 1050 for less than $950 (preferably from an authorized
> Yamaha dealer)
> 
> Mike
> -- 
> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu


Ta


Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.audio.pro,rec.music.misc,rec.music.marketplace
From: fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser)
Subject: Re: Help me find *special* CORDLESS HEADPHONES
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:51:13 GMT

Matthew Stearns (n8842401@henson.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
: Hi all...
: I'm looking to buy a pair of cordless headphones, but 
: the only ones I can find are "infared" carriers.  I'd
: like to find a pair which carries the info across radio
: waves (like FM) but I haven't been able to find anything

I just got a Crutchfield "Christmas 92" catalog yesterday and
saw a pair of RCA brand cordless headphones (model WHP101)
that uses RF with a range of 100 feet for $199.95.  Don't
know anything about them but have been looking for something
like this for awhile also.

Crutchfield's phone number is  1-800-955-3000.  I've never
ordered anything from them so I don't know about their service.
--

  --------------------------------------------------------------------
  Fred Handloser
  Corvallis, Oregon
  fredh@cv.hp.com
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DCC, what and how is it different from other recording media?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:17:53 GMT
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Nov9.153347.5967@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:
>
>I saw a brief commercial on TV last
>night which was hailing the DCC availability from Phillips.  It was
>a Phillips commercial.  What, if anything, is there similar to
>SCMS in the DCC format?

Well, the compression algorithm in DCC is lossy, so there is surely
a limit (and a quick limit, to accept the CCIR 10/2 testing results
on tandeming) to how many times you can compress and uncompress
the signal, withOUT any SCMS technology.

The CCIR seems to have reported that none of the coders submitted was
acceptable for tandem encodings, at least for "transparent"
quality audio.  (And if they ever send me the copy of the report
that they surely owe me, I'll read the results first hand. Heck,
I'm only a committee member.)
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: martinb@nosc.mil (Brett F. Martin)
Subject: classic vacuum tube equipment  
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
	I have a set of the original Harmon/Kardon Citation I,II, and III
	which work well, but I can no longer store them.  These were
	designed in the late 50's and probably built as a kit in the
	early 60's.  The preamp has interesting features such as
	multiple phono equalization settings, tape head input, and a
	center/blend channel.  The amplifier delivers 60 continuous watts
	and 120 watts peak.  The stereo FM tuner has a 100kHz audio
	bandwidth (as does the rest of the components).
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:20:06 GMT

	Although completely functional, it would sound better with a
	new set of tubes.  

	Bluebook price on the set is $650 retail.  I will consider
	reasonable offers. 

	If you are interested, reply by e-mail or give me a call at
	(619)553-6174 or 581-6348.

	Brett Martin
From: huibingz@acpub.duke.edu (Huibing Zhang)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Harman-Kardon KD-7400 CD player
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:51:32 GMT

Hi, I'm looking for a CD player and one comes to my mind is
Harman-Kardon KD-7400. Are there any people in the net have any 
experience with this player? I'm particularly interested in its
sound quality and reliability. I also want to know if there are some 
mail-order places carry this product. The latest issure of Consumer
Digest(Nov./Dec/) quotes the best price is $219. I would like to know 
where I can get the player at this price? All suggestions and info are
greatly appreciated. 
Please e-mail me by huibingz@keynes.econ.duke.edu
Thank you in advance.

Huibing
Xref: sparky rec.audio:14819 rec.audio.pro:2248 comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard:3601 comp.multimedia:3309
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.audio.pro,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Interface Digital Audio <---> Computer ???
Date: 9 Nov 1992 20:09:28 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <BxGxwv.8po@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.144423.7532@rhrk.uni-kl.de> luitz@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Steffen Luitz [RHRK]) writes:
>>what about an interface digital audio (DAT, CD optical or coax) to 
>>a computer system (perhaps SCSI or a PC-board  or ...) ?
>>Nooo, I don't want to make my backups with my DAT recorder, but it
>>would be very interesting to edit my recordings in some way with 
>>the computer and the most obvious way seems to copy data from DAT
>>recorder to the computer, do the cutting, filtering ... and copy
>>everything back to a DAT tape.

>On the Next, there are interface boxes ($1000+) to hook up the digital
>outputs of CD players directly to the Next's DSP port.

Actually, Stealth Technologies makes an interface that connects S/PDIF
and AES/EBU standard digital I/O to the DSP port for $395. It is usually
used for just what you describe. Subscribe to the NeXT Music mailing
list for more info: nextmusic-request@wri.com to subscribe, nextmusic@
wri.com to post.

Sound Designer and Pro Tools on the Mac are the packages for digital
editing and mastering most commonly used by professionals, I've found.
Both are made by DigiDesign. Actually, Sound Designer is a subset of
ProTools and is more of a sample editor, though you can get a DAT inter-
face separately, I believe. ProTools includes a NuBus card for the digital
interface and a significant amount of software. Price is pretty steep,
but I don't remember well enough to hazard a quote. Ask on comp.music.

There are also 16-bit audio cards for the PC, but I don't know about DAT
interfaces or editting/mastering software.

Bill Alves
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Pro Logic Center ch. and SUBwoofers...
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:54:15 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <24108@alice.att.com> andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume) writes:
>
>
>	before more rumours start and people start accusing hsu
>of rippoff prices, let me point out their prices have dropped.
>I believe when they started they were $500 each (most people seem to
>only want one subwoofer). they are now $750/pair. there seems to
>be growing acceptance that most subwoofers are giving significant
>output at frequencies high enough that you would want a stereo pair.
>
   Well, maybe the Hsu does.  And before the Hsu-freaks flame away,
   they might want to read the test reports on it.  Although it
   competes with the Velodyne and M&K units in low frequency
   response, it does so with a heck of a lot of distortion.  This is
   mostly harmonic distortion which increases the output in the
   audible range for a given bass level.

   Of course, TWO subwoofers are always better than one... >:-)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: kong@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kong Kritayakirana)
Subject: Low Price DAC
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:48:30 GMT

After a lot of frustration and thumping through endless pages of specs
and products of this year's Audio and Stereo Review Component's guides,
I have decided that all I want to upgrade for now is my DAC. No, no, 
I don't want a Transport/Converter combination. All I have are 3-yr old 
Kenwood portable w/coax digital output, and 2-yr+ old Sony D-555 (DiscMan)
with fiber optic output. I have heard that coax output is supposed to be
better at transmitting digital data than fiber optic output, so I plan to
swap my D-555 with my sister's Kenwood (w/coax digital out) when she comes
to visit me this thanksgiving. I have not seen any real proof that transport
can make a difference in sound quality. The most recent issue of The Audio 
Critic CD review column gives some stats about how much error can't be
recovered --- and you guess what --- ZERO. Let me say it again. ZERO.

Another thing that might make "CD playback system" sounds different is
jitter. But this is entirely up to the accuracy of the clock signal that's
feeding into DACs. So by the reasons above, my concern about Transport sounding
"different" is put to rest until some real evidence exists to the contrary.

Now the real question is this: I have saved up about $600 (maybe a little
more than that) to spend just on an outboard DAC. (Yes, although it is VERY
politically incorrect, I'll be driving it using my Kenwood portable.) 
What would be a good DAC in this price range. I have narrowed down my
choices to the following:

Name/Model				Concern/Question
Audio Alchemy DDE v2.0	     Does it use DAC-7s chips? Discrete analog stage?
			     a store quoted me $599 on a new unit.
CAL Sigma D/A                Tubes??? Are they reliable? More expensive than
			     the DDE v2.0 and the cosmetics isn't attractive
Sumo Theorem		     Uses lousy PCM67 DACs. Pretty good built though.
Mission DAC5		     Definitely in my price range. Haven't heard
				anything about it though.
QED MB52		     Well below my budget. Wonder what DAC chips are
				used. No info about quality of analog stage.
Soundstream DAC-1	     Suspect the use of lousy PCM67 DACs. 
PS Audio Digital Link II     Good AD1860N-K DACs. BAD RF emission though.

Any comment about the list above? To my knowledge, the best DAC chips 
available are Ultra Analog AD1862N-K, TDA1547(aka DAC-7), and Sony CXD2552 or
CXD2552. The reason I don't want to get Sony is because the analog stage is
usually very bad (cheap opamps, electrolytic caps, etc.) Your comment or
help on this outboard DAC hunting trip will be greatly appreciated. You can
response by either posting an article or email me at kong@leland.stanford.edu

Kong Kritayakirana
EERA STAR Lab
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305
kong@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Best LD player for CDs?
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:16:32 GMT

In article <27930@castle.ed.ac.uk>, sss@castle.ed.ac.uk (S S Sturrock) writes:
|> 
|> Sound quality is good from the LD player, but it basically sounds like a CD
|> player for half the price. 

   What is the best LD player for listening to CDs?  I'm considering the
Pioneer CLD-D701 because it meets my requirements for an LD player but is
it any good for CDs?  Is there anything better on the market right now?

   Thanks in advance for any help.

-- 
   __ ___  
  /\ \ \ \  Anshu Prasad                        stud1b53@bnr.ca
 /--\ \/_/  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
/_/  \_\    All opinions are my own, not my employer's, BNR Ltd

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: medha@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (keshav.havnurkar)
Subject: sony walkman information
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:45:10 GMT

Hi
     I have a sony walkman WM-F2097 which is recording type walkman.(with AM/FM)
I donot have its users manual. I was confused about 2 of the things in
the walkman.
1. Does this have a switch to step at 9Khz instead of `normal` 10Khz
step ( required in some countries ) in AM tuning ?
2. It has a 3 position switch labelled ISS 1,2,3 what does these indicate ?

I request any person having this walkman or having any information about
it to contact me at keshav@mhcnet.att.com
Does SONY have any phone number where I can get any information ?
( I tried the 800-directory but SONY does not have any listing )

Thanks
Keshav Havnurkar


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg)
Subject: Re: Confusion over new CD technology
Originator: brad@buck
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:46:58 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.150156.16290@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman) writes:
|> 
|> I'm going to soon be in the market for a new CD player. I have noticed while
|> looking around that various CD companies have introduced various new 
|> technologies into their CD players. I've noticed the phrases "Pulse" and
|> "MASH 1-bit" most frequently, and of course 37-bit-471x oversampling. Can
|> anyone please summarize for me what these new technologies are (and any I 
|> haven't listed here), how they help playback, what to listen for when 
|> comparing the players employing these technologies, etc.? I would really 
|> appreciate it.
|> 
These are different techniques to achieve the same result. The important
thing is the quality of execution, rather than the technique. Read some
of the audiophile magazines to get a sense of what the better executed
CD players are all about. The oft mentioned Rotel would be worth a listen,
as would a comparable Denon, and so would many others. I wouldn't be too
concerned about numbers of bits and oversampling. Look for the features
you want from a manufacturer with a good reputation. Some people might
question my intelligence for saying this, but I think you have to trust
your own ears. After all, you will be listening to what you buy.

|> Also, does DSP *really* make anything sound much better, or are you better 
|> off getting a low-to-medium-priced equalizer?
|> 
Same here. Get a demo of these things, and see what YOU think. Personally,
I would avoid signal processors; they're just one more intrusion on the
original signal, and my impression is they exist to partially "fix" signals
that have already been distorted in some way, or make up for deficiencies
in the rest of your system.

Cheers
From: m1mlr00@fed.frb.gov (Mark L Rodini)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: test message
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:57:43 GMT
Reply-To: uunet!rec.audio
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC

This is just a test; hope it works!
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Defeating SCMS
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:51:16 GMT


In article <1992Nov9.173035.14563@julian.uwo.ca>,
janik@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Janik Joire) writes:
|>
|>	Apparently, there are several different status codes for SCMS. One of
|>them, I do believe, allows unlimited digital copies of any recording. I assume
|>that anti-SCMS devices remove the existing status code from the data stream
|>to replace it with one of those "unlimited copies" codes.

SCMS is a two bit code, the four values of which are:

	value	meaning

	00	unlimited copying allowed
	11	one generation of digital copying allowed
	10	digital copying not allowed

A DAT deck that is making a recording from digital source with SCMS=00 records
SCMS=00 on the output.

A DAT deck that is making a recording from digital source with SCMS=11 records
SCMS=10 on the output.  This means that the output DAT cannot itself be copied
digitally.

A DAT deck refuses to make a recording from digital source with SCMS=10.

A DAT deck recording from analog source records SCMS=11 on the output.


Now, note that the above is the behavior of a deck that enforces SCMS.  Most
professional decks don't enforce it.  For example, the Panasonic SV-3700 pro
DAT deck ignores the SCMS code from digital input and merely copies it verbatim
to the output.  Thus, if you are recording digitally a source with SCMS=11, the
output will also be SCMS=11.  Similarly, the deck will record a source with
SMCS=10, and the output will also be SCMS=10.  The SV-3700 lets you select
the SCMS code of your choice (including SCMS=00) when recording from analog
inputs.

--PSW
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: mark@spike.b8.ingr.com (Mark Lanier)
Subject: Speaker Ramblings
Keywords: Things that go boom, and sometimes tweet :)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:01:56 GMT


Well, so far I don't have any reply's to any earlier post about some
Infinity Reference Four's. There were a couple of post that seem to state
that Inf's weren't to good. I guess I really goofed, I should have went to a
local store and listened first, then purchased. I think I will go tonight and
listen to speakers at around $600 to $700 bucks. I hope to compare some Inf's 
to Advent's or Bose. I know these aren't KEF or Klipsch ... but I still would like
to get the most for the doe. If you have any suggestions for speakers in this 
range please email.


Also anyone have old post or whatever on advent Laurete??



Please help!!


Thanks,

Mark

mark@spike.b8.ingr.com

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Wire to Center Channel
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:03:08 GMT

In article <1ds8u8INNd2e@agate.berkeley.edu> kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller) writes:

>WHen I was buying my front speakers, I was told that it was important to keep
>the wire length to the left and right channel the same length.  Should I be 
>careful to make my center channel wire the same length as the wire to the
>left and right, or is that less important?  How about wire to the surround 
>speakers?

If they aren't the same length the signal can be delayed to the speaker
with the longer wire.    If they were off by as much as a foot, and
assuming worst case for the wire, you could be looking at significant
phase shift in the ultrsonic range.

Let's take another example. If you were REALLY sloppy in your
measurements and you mis-cut the wire and had one longer
than the other by some amount - for example - of 1000 feet.  You would
be getting phase shift on the frequencies in the 1MHz range.

Of course with that length of wire resistance would come into effect
and perhaps cause some other problems, including a level difference.

And just in case you aren't sure what I am saying.




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In other words, for audible ranges wire length doesn't really
make any difference.

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill.vermillion@oau.org
                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: 00kjfehn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Denon vs Sony
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:04:11 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov4.064646.10336@csusac.csus.edu>, chenh@neptune.ecs.csus.edu (H. Philip Chen) writes:
> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>>[...]
>>Sony and Yamaha I think are the only ones who make ALL their own 
>>chips ('vertically integrated'). Most other brands use their chips.
> 
> That doesn't sound right.  I've seen NEC chips in Sony products.
> 




NEWSFLASH!
A Sony chip (it said SONY in big white letters)was found inside a Kenwood 
portable CD player today!

Film at Eleven!

Keith "if you ask me, Denons and Sonys look and sound exactly alike anyway-
       probably some government conspiracy" Fehn