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From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.
Followup-To: alt.flame.spelling
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:20:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.135037.8635@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, kniaz@cat5.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz) writes:
<
<	Wow!   With this kind of insightful debating, perhaps you too
                                                                  ^^^
[`two' was intended]
<	should run for public office...

We will as soon as you learn to spell.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
From: siqif@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Siqi Fan)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:20:40 GMT
Subject: looking for a old friend majoring in math
Organization: HP Network Measurements Div, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china



	I am looking for a old friend of mine named Zhi-Jian Wu who

graduted from Washington Univ. at St. Louis of Missouri and now a assistant

professor at University of Alabama or Alabama University. I don't know which

campus it is.

	I am appreciated if anybody can give me a help.
From: wangs@chip.cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Going back China during summer season
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:35:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5345
Reply-To: wangs@chip.cs.pdx.edu ()
Distribution: na


I plan to go back to China to visit the family during the summer
vocation. I try to get a good price on the air ticket. I have  called
several travel agents.So far, the best price I can get is $970 plus $18 
tax for round trip for west coast of US and Shanghai. 

Dose anybody has sources (travel agent or whatever) to get better deal?
I will very appreciate anyone who send email to me about this matter.
If I get good price I will post here at later time. And I hope it will 
benefit anyone who plan to leave  for China during this summer.


Thanks
Shengan Wang
tel:(503)221-6931
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Jialin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:47:42 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> kniaz@cat5.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz) writes:

[to Scott Horne]
 
>	You seem to mistake me for someone to whom this makes a difference...
>	My feeling is this:  any individual (from anywhere) who has the 
>	'ability and intention' of contributing positively to the welfare and
>	growth of this country should be given a chance to immigrate.  The 
>	purpose for their emigration is none of my business ... and none of
>	yours either, for that matter.

And because of this opportunities for everybody to excel, the 
America becomes what it is today. The collective wealth is a side effect
of individual wealth. 

Communists, like Scott Horne, ignore people's desire as a human
being. The failures at all communist countries had demonstrated
that humans are different than machines. You can not design for
the common collective interest first, you have to allow each
human being as an individual to prosper as s/he wishes. 

                      /|  0      \\    -  _            
           --- ----~ | --------- |  ---)    ;_\__     
    _ )~   /---\     |          / _____     ( ___)    
   (_|____||(O) \____|_________/_/|(O) \_______/=o     z forever  71' 83'
   _ ______\___/__________________\___/____________~~______________________

"Li Peng is certainly better educated than the old generation.." - Li Xiaolin

"The table in front of a classroom in Peking University is also well 
 educated. "                                                     - Xi Chen
From: kniaz@cat4.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Holy
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:20:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Apr7.192037.28594
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <44206@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> superfly@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jake) writes:

>The beloved people for whome God sacrificed his only begotten son !!!
>The darkness in the world caused by the granted power of evil will be only
>what Jesus may conquer.... The emanation of the Holy devinity is the ultimate,
>primary weapon with what we know where we start to strive, struggle for our
>brightened future !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
>God will punish all those who commit any forms of crime against the 
>people, nation that s/he are designated to serve, love with loyalty....

	What the *^%# is this?  This doesn't seem to have much to do with
	anything except totally reactionary socio-religious dogma.   I do
	hope that this was merely belated April foolishness...

     ______________________________________________________________________
    / "Lo, Though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death,       /
    \    I fear not!                                        ______________\
    /  For I am the biggest son-of-a-bitch in the valley." / My favorite  /
    \______________________________________________________\ expression...\
    / Joel Kniaz   kniaz@garfield.cs.wisc.edu  kniaz@jomby /      __i     /
    \______________________________________________________\_yiLballe(Mu)_\
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.asian.american
From: shay@osiris (George Shay)
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:09:29 GMT

kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov (kenton yee) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.160937.54304@cc.usu.edu> slshf@cc.usu.edu writes:
>.indiana.edu>, xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>>> Senate Immigration and Refugee Committee has passed a bill
>>> regarding Chinese nationals who came before 4/1/90. It allows
>>> the Chinese under President's executive order to have green
>>> card starting 7/1/93. The bill has been passed in the senate
>>> committee without objection. This bill was initiated by
>>> Democrat senate Kennedy.
>>> Chinese nationals who are eligible to apply green card must...
>>> (2). Have not stayed in China for more than 90 days during the time;
>  
>  I don't get it.  If these chinese nationals are truly 
>  worried about
> being prosecuted, how can they return to china for 1 day
> or 90 days?  

I don't get it either. Sounds the message is confusing.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 16:04:50 EDT
From: <PXW10@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: It Is Time To Defend Li Peng, China's Hardworking Premire.

Xiao Li is a wiseguy.
By posting the article, (s)he knew it would bring people to pull shits on
Li Peng's face.
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: defend Li Peng
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:00:07 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:

>Subject: It Is Time To Defend Li Peng, China's Hardworking Premire
>Message-ID: <1992Apr7.112848.1471@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
>Date: 7 Apr 92 16:28:16 GMT
-----------------
If there had been no such thing as the 6/4 massacre, how would
people have thought about Li Peng, China's hardworking Premier?
Li Peng is certainly better educated than the old generation
revolutionaries, better than Deng Xiaoping and Zhao Ziyang.
Not only scientifically, but in personality as well, Li Peng is
more tolerant. I well remember when Li Peng met Wurekaxi, it
was Li Peng who maintained the grace of the talk. Li Peng has
been constantly huminiated throughout his visit in US, yet, he
performed well.

As to his contribution to China, I think it is much greater
than Deng Xiaoping. What has Deng Xiaoping done to China. He
played politics for himself, to enhance the image of himself
at the cost of his "second and third generation leaders". Hu 
and Zhao had already been the ones. Now comes Li Peng. I think
Li Peng is still trying to balance in his political career. What
he could do if he is removed from his current post? Go back
as an engineer? Not as comfortable as before. Now good things
are all DXP's and the dirt of 6/4 is Li Peng's.

I have attacked Li Peng for a long period of time since 6/4.
Now I think it is wrong. It was DXP who committed the 6/4
massacre. People should be aware of it.
------------------------------



Why don't you go lick LP's ass and suck his cock?  You big
f_cking asshole!
From: doc@ecepck.ece.arizona.edu.local (doc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Is it the fault of those killed?
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:27:08 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.201518.13653@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, srzhang@mth.msu.edu (Shuren Zhang) writes:
|> In article <9204120746.AA10132@ecepck.ece.arizona.edu.local> doc@ecepck.ece.arizona.edu.local (doc) writes:
|> > ...
|> >
|> >     I don't have green card, and I am going to back China. But certainly
|> >   not because I own something to CCP. While I am here, I will continue
|> >   to complain and express my concern on China, and do something about
|> >   it -- fight for a democratic China, fight for the change of China.
|> > 
|> 
|>      You are good and admirable.  We don't object getting a green card.
|> We are only against 6.4 blood abuse.  On the nignt when the "martial law"
|> was announced I spent the night at TAM.  On the night of 6/4/89, I went
|> Qing1Long2Qiao2 to block armed vehicles.  Those memories I shall never
|> forget. 

     That night PLA fired dozens of machine gun bullets into my hotel room
in west side of Beijing. ...      We shall nver forget those died. 
I can not tolerate those claim that CCP did not order the killing -- those
CCP apologists!
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Jialin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:17:21 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <ROTEN.92Apr8135901@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov> roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
>
>The jerkweeds on Capitol Hill finally did something both sensible and 
>principled, for a change!  

They have been on that principle for a long time, which is to 
grab the educated foreign students to stay in the United States.
I think it is great. Now, it was the Immigration and Naturalization
Services the bad guys :-)

>And Kennedy was behind it .. my mind boggles.  Now I'll have to retire 
>my Teddy Kennedy dart board.  :-)

Hasn't he always been for education, for basic research, be friends with
scientists ? Enlight me if I am wrong. 
 
>IF Bush gets in the way of this, I will drop my intention of voting for 
>him, hold my nose, and vote for Clinton in November!  

Vote for Bush? :^) Clinton :^^)??, why not Ross Perot?

                      /|  0      \\    -  _            
           --- ----~ | --------- |  ---)    ;_\__     
    _ )~   /---\     |          / _____     ( ___)    
   (_|____||(O) \____|_________/_/|(O) \_______/=o     z forever  71' 83'
   _ ______\___/__________________\___/____________~~______________________

"Li Peng is certainly better educated than the old generation.." - Li Xiaolin

"The table in front of a classroom in Peking University is also well 
 educated. "                                                     - Xi Chen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: cease fire
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:14:12 GMT

In article <92106.011618SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu> SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>HI, EVERYONE IN THE NET!  Can we cease fire for a week?!
>
>SCC LOOKS LIKE A BATTLE FIELD FOR ME. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONLY
>DEFENDING SOME POLITICAL VIEW, BUT THE SMOOK IS TOO MUCH AND I HOPE

The wrong part of it is They are reluctant to tolerate others's points .
How can we coop-erate , when we are distinct people who have distinct
opinions ?

>EVERYONE INVOVED IN THE DEBATE CAN COOL DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
>        HOW ABOUT DISCUSS SOME FOLK'S SONGS?

" Support you " 10000000000000000000000000 times .

  -----  Copy from Culture Revolution Period .
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 17:32:59 CDT
From: <U42974@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
 <1992Apr9.173206.8674@u.washington.edu> <1992Apr9.200447.18102@cs.yale.edu>
 <1992Apr10.184855.25476@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>

       Chinese students come to the United States for the  FREEDOM of earning
more money, personal development, and taking a look of the wold (...). Going
back to China? May be not too bad. China needs us, but how much we can really
do there? What can we gain( comparing with the loss here)? loss money here and
gain the feeling of "this is my country!". Money is getting more important
these days, and American does not treat foreigner very bad. So...???
From: srzhang@mth.msu.edu (Shuren Zhang)
Subject: Re: one coner of my Beijing life (follow-up to "red card" discussion)
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 18:58:32 GMT

In article <12245@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu) writes:
          
>>But, 6.4 blood 
>>abuse will definately not be appreciated.
>
>A person who claimed it was students caused the killing is NOT entitled to
>talk about 6/4! Those who merely applies for green card using this provision
>is much better than those CCP ass-kissing apologists and fact-distorting liars!

  This is not a good excuse!  Abusing 6.4 blood and kissing CCP ass are
equally bad!  Some people are both kissing CCP's ass and abusing 6.4 blood.
                              ----                   --- 
>
>Hao
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Immigrate to Mexico!  (6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.)
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:56:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <1992Apr14.204230.26802@bnlux1.bnl.gov> kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov (kenton yee) writes:
->1.132338.11636@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
->>  I know someone personally who went to
->>Mexico from China and didn't want to go back.  Of course he'd like to come
->>to the US, but Mexico ain't bad either.  Obviously if you are in the US,
->>you don't want to immigrate to Mexico. 
->
->  Why not?  First, you have less chance of begin drafted and killed
->  in war in Mexico.

Unless you got killed by Mexicans.

->  Secondly, if you are a business owner, you can
->  hire workers much, much more cheaply.  Third, taxes are less than
->  1/2 of USA rate.

Definitely.

->  Fourth, houses are cheaper and you can live in
->  the very best neighborhoods.

I knew some people who lived in Mexico for a while and said they lived
in a big house with servants there.  But they were paid by US company.

->  Fifth, there are few highly educated
->  people to compete with for jobs.

Which probably means you have to work with uneducated people.

->  Sixth, Mexico has many more 
->  easy, beautiful women.  Seventh, spanish is a more beautiful
->  language than english.  

If you already know Spanish.

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
From: ifwang@cnedcu51.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: BCV Volley-Cup
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:06:15 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

  BCV Volley Cup began yesterday in Switzerland.

Group A:   CEI, USA, South Korea, Holland
Group B:   China, Cuba, Bresil, Switzerland

1st day: China - Switzerland
           3         0      (15-8 15-10 15-6)
         CEI - Holland
          3       0   (15-6 15-12 15-12)
         USA - Korea
          2      3   (16-14 11-15 16-14 9-15 12-15)
From: doc@ecepck.ece.arizona.edu.local (doc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse (honey version)
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:12:11 GMT


In article <1992Apr16.104249.1821@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, 88p8337@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au (Antartica Archer(tm)) writes:
|> In article <29EB4A24.27928@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
|> >     This way, you won't have a political hole.
|> > 
|>       Thus, the "6.4 red card" now can be called "Political no-hole Card" 8-).
|> 
|>       Oh, Honey, you're so lovely. You cannot even stand firm on you
|> point, what politics you can talk about?

    Or it can be called as "unholy card". :-)
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: solicitation
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:14:12 GMT
Reply-To: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Hardware Engineering

Do we have anyone on the net who has a good Chinese Chess
program for Sun Workstation?

And, it would be great if someone has some real funky Chinese
audio file for SparcStation, ie. Charlie (something).

Thanks in advance.

DC
From: jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Q: foreigners bringing radios to PRC
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:41:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr7.194114.16806
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Hello, If there is anyone out there who knows about Chinese regulations of 
foreigners bringing in unusual radios, (like ham and shortwave)  I wonder 
if you could inform me if the PRC allows foreigners to bring:
a) shortwave radios
b) VHF-LO, VHF, UHF scanning radio

Please E-mail me if you know...
Thanks
-- 
Jeremiah Wilton    "jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu"    "jeremiah@earlham.bitnet"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: kychen@chem.nthu.edu.tw (Kuang-Yu Chen (035)715131-3352)
Subject: Re: When is Qing1 Ming2?
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:34:38 GMT

Qing1 Ming2 is Apr 4, 92'.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Will Have Greencard.
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:19:17 GMT

In article <92102.173259U42974@uicvm.uic.edu> <U42974@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>       Chinese students come to the United States for the  FREEDOM of earning
>more money, personal development, and taking a look of the wold (...). Going
>back to China? May be not too bad. China needs us, but how much we can really
>do there? What can we gain( comparing with the loss here)? loss money here and
>gain the feeling of "this is my country!". Money is getting more important
>these days, and American does not treat foreigner very bad. So...???
From long run, China may be the better palce for you to strike rich than here in States.
Most CSS here are/will be  middle class professionals after graduation from U.S. schools. 
Along this path, I can see CSS future will be, a nice car, a house, decent salary, one 
vacation a year, a pretty comfortable life. But if you want to have a life bigger than 
yourself, you better prepare yourself for going back to China. China is at the dawn of 
economic thriving, like in Japan, Korea, Taiwan during 50s, there are enomous oppertunities
for you to start a business, stick with it. The business will thrive along with the nation's
economic thriving. Look at giant Cooperations in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, they gained their
expansion only in couple of decades, as soon as they gained the ground, it is very hard
for new comers. Go back to China, start a business. Patraitism talking is not enough.
I love my fatherland doesnot mean I give all the income I earned to my country a tax, even
though if my country is in crisis, for eample under invasion, I may consider that. Otherwise,
I have to watch out my own interests as well as my country's. Compare the living standard
in States and the one that CCP can offer if CSS go back as a resercher, I don't think
there are great deal of enthusiasm among CSS. But if CCP can offer he same favourable investment conditions to CSS as to foreign investment in China, even let CSS to have access to loans,
etc. CSS will rush back to China. Because being a entrepreneur, working for yourself,
is better than any king of job, where you have to be bossed around.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: Xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3 (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:46:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.023430.16937@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
<[I, Scott Horne, write:]
<
<>>Certainly.  These "d-fighters" deliberately provoked a violent response
<>>from the Chinese government three years ago so that they could get their
<>>_xue4 ran2 de lu4 ka3_.  They'd do it again if they had the chance.
<
<This is serous, but partially true charge! the motivations of most people who
<joined demo were mostly pure, sincere!

I agree.  But the guys who organised the demonstration (and yes, it was
organised) weren't sincere in the least.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: Xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3 (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:28:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.170309.6909@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin) writes:
<In <1992Apr13.132634.10491@cs.yale.edu>
<horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
<
<>Certainly.  These "d-fighters" deliberately provoked a violent response
<>from the Chinese government three years ago so that they could get their
<>_xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3_.  They'd do it again if they had the chance.
<
<	So you're saying they asked to be shot in cold blood? :(

Come on, they most certainly did provoke a violent response.  Some of them
had beaten up (and even killed) policemen, waving their bloody uniforms
before crowds--all before June 4.  No government would put up with that.

<Do you really blame the peaceful student demonstrators or are you 
<so disillusioned with the "wonderful" government of China? (Brainwashed)

I don't blame the *peaceful* student demonstrators.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china