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From: patel@unixg.ubc.ca (Ashwin Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IAF Trainer/MiG-21 NEWS.
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:40:13 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

INDIA LOOKS FOR TRAINER_LEASING DEAL.
The IAF has decided that it wants initially to lease, rather than buy, the jet
trainers it will select from either the UK or France.  British Aerospace (BAe)
and Dassault/Dornier are competing for the deal with the "Hawk" & the "Alpha
Jet".
BAe has negotiated with the Royal Air Force to lease a number of its Hawks & tp
place a group of RAF instrutors on secondment for upto 12 months, starting in
early 1993.  The lease deal would be paid for by BAe & the aircraft would remain in IAF service until they are replaced by brand new aircraft. Between 15 & 30 
RAF Hawks could be made available as the RAF has closed the Tactical Weapons UniUnit based at RAF Brawdy.  The position for France is more complicated. The Alpha Jet has been out of production for several years. France has no spare Alpha Jets, which are fully employed at its Tours and Cazaux bases.


INDIA CONSIDERS MiG-21 DEAL>

The Russian government has proposed setting up a joint venture for co-productionof spare parts for the MiG-21- the world's most widely produced fighter.

Russia has indicated that the venture will be export-led.  Around 6800 similar aaircraft are flown by air forces around the world.  The deal may also appeal to
India, which is considering an upgrade to its fleet of MiG-21's in the wake of 
delays to its Lifgt Combat Aircraft programme.

The IAF operates over 400 MiG-21's and is thought to be running short of spares.

The Russians are continuing to try and interest the cash-strappes IAF in an 
upgrade programme to increase an aircraft's life by 10 to 15 years.  In additionto an updated engine, possible the Klimov RD-33 or the Turbo Union RB.199, the
plan prposes new flaps, fire control radar, head-up display and Western
avionics systems.  Modifications to the wing platform are also under consideration, to improve manoevrability.


(sory for any typing errors)

Source: Flight International 7-13 & 14-20 October, 1992.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Sweet Nothings II [Some More Honey] -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:42:09 GMT

>From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
>nice to know that poor "stay cool" is involved in Gay Movement ;-)
>-vibgyor the Pindari.

1] Honey Patel,

	You are in dire need of being involved in a ben-gay movement.
    The muscle-sprain in your brain must be hurting awful bad now.

2] Your hopes are dashed honey patel! Your worst fears have come true.
   Im definitely straight and whatsmore I am going to steal all your
   girlfriends. Fall on your knees now, say a prayer and rush off
   to find chastity belts for them.

Later,
Paul Chemmanoor.

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.   Rain makes me remember,                                                .
.   The sunset of that golden hour,                                        .
.   When my eyes were first opened,                     Paul Chemmanoor    .
.   And I saw your eyes, No longer blind.                   Boulder.       .
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hsingh@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: !!!!!!!!      INDIAN    FUNCTIONS     !!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:35:15 GMT

there is a big indian function.  It is on november 13 it's a Friday.   

It is in Toronto.  There are a few local colleges around there that are 

sponsoring this function.

There is another function on November 25 1992.  It is in Washington  D.C

and it is at a big club in the center of town.  Expected Indians:: 400-500.



Another function::::     It is in New York city of the Summer of '93,  

sponsored by TANA.  And this will probably be held in Manhattan.



ANOTHER ONE;::::        In january of '93.... northeastern colleges in the
  U.S   are having their annual Indian convention.

FOR INFORMATION CALL :::::

                 SUMIT K ARORA
                 (413)-546-6796
                  
                     or
                 

                 AMIT AHUJA  
                 (410)-889-1175
   
                     or
                
                 email:  bijoor@ecs.umass.edu
                         sheth@ecs.umass.edu
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: *WHY INDIAN MEN WATCH PORNO'S?* - ADULTS ONLY
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:27:58 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.191

 In article <1992Nov4.115407.49828@ccvax.ucd.ie> bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
 > we all come from the country where animal sex on road side is very common...
 >dogs and bulls enjoying sex in public is very common.....  ;-)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	gee.... I have never seen a dog and a bull getting it on!!
	provides quite a challenge to the imagination to visualize that....

	Prem!
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 ===    I don't follow the beaten track, because, just think, what if the   ===
 ===    guy who beat it is still hanging around.                            ===
 ===                    - Me, who needs Jack Handey anyway ??               ===
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From: navuluri@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (NSN Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info about F-2
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:44:40 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

Hi netters,

Can you give me information about the Interview for F-2 visa

like  1. About the questions they ask ..

      2. About the documents needed to appear for Interview ( Madras )...

      3. And some clues to face the interview ( if possible )


Please send me the e.mail to this address
	navuluri@bsu-cs.bsu.edu

Thank you very much   ( In advance )

Siva..
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:27:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu



this is a test.



suresh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: joshi@mercury.ncat.edu
Subject: Add.. of Employment Agencies for Gulf needed
Organization: North Carolina A&T State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:36:04 GMT

	Hi netters,
	          A friend of mine is interested in applying for job in
the Gulf. As such he needs addresses of employment agencies in U.S which
deal with same.
		 If anyone has information on the above please let me
know.
		 Thanks & Bye!

	E-mail....  joshi@garfield.ncat.edu
	Name:       Sunit Joshi
From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sony camcorder?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 21:11:07 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


Hello:

	Does anyone have any idea where I can get a report on 
SONY FX710 camcorder?  I tihnk this is the latest by SONY.
Thanks

						sanjay
						sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: plaul@engr.latech.edu (Pummy Laul)
Subject: Re: Bad Experince With US Sprint
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:16:22 GMT


I had major problems with US Sprint too.  My problems first began when I tried 
signing up with Sprint.  A lot of the customer service people did not know about the India Plan and I found out that the best way to get around it is to hang up and dial Sprint again.   I took me about 2 weeks to get the right setup ---
Sprint India with the THE Most plan.

After I recd my bill,  I noticed that the $1.23 rate had not reflected on my bill.  I called up US Sprint and the Customer Service rep did not Know about the 
India Plan either.  Luckily I had a written confirmation of the India Plan
indicating the rate and the calling times.  I faxed these to the Customer rep,
(800 number) and Sprint gave me a no questions asked $50 credit on account of 
the misbilling.  The $50 credit appeared on my bill right away.  I have not recd my second sprint bill yet and I dont know if I am going to be charged the right rate.

I had my phone service set in such a way that we only used Sprint for Intl calls and thus taking advantage of the most program.  For domestic calls we used At&t as we liked the call manager feature.  AT&T has been repeatedly calling us to
switch back to AT&T offering us better incentives.  We finally gave in when 
AT&T came back with a $100 offer.  Our long distance company is now officially 
AT&T,  but I do not plan to make India Calls with AT&T.  I  dont know if Sprint is going to like that.  If Sprint does not want my 10333-  business, I guess i will take my business to At&T.

word of note though.

1)  India calls go better on Sprint- No Kidding.
My sister goes to Manipal and It was a headache trying to reach her.  With AT&T I had to spend about 30-45 minutes in dialing alone.

believe it or not sprint goes thru on the first dial and the line is Crystal Clear.  I was able to talk to her on a cordless phone with absolutely no problems.

2)  Sprint customer service Truly SUCKS!!!!!
Call up the sprint customer service and you will find out that even the 
managers are not up to date on their information.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: khatri@seas.gwu.edu (Anil Khatri)
Subject: DIWALI CELEBRATIONS
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:24:03 GMT


   **********************INDIAN STUDENTS ASSOCIATION*****************

                                   OF

  ***********************THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY************
 
  *****************************WASHINGTON D.C.***********************
   
 **************************DIWALI FUNCTION***************************

  **************************DIWALI FUNCTION**************************
                        (CULTURAL SHOW AND DANCE)

**************ON THE 7th OF NOVEMBER 1992 AT 7:00 P.M.***************

                               AT THE 

******************GRAND MARKETPLACE IN MARVIN CENTER*****************

                 ADDRESS : 800 21st STREET NW,
                         WASHINGTON D.C.-20052
                 TICKETS : $10/- FOR ISA MEMBERS
                   TICKETS : $10/- FOR NON 1SA MEMBERS
                             $8/- FOR ISA MEMBERS
                             
                        $5/- IF ONLY FOR DANCE.

        FOR TICKETS CONTACT THE FOLLOWING :
 
                                      1. GEETA CHERUKURI
                                             TEL:(202)-333-3051

                                      2. DEEPAK KRIPLANI 
                                              TEL:(202)-337-7806

      NOTE : MARVIN CENTER IS ON 21st STREET BETWEEN H & I AND IS TWO
             BLOCKS AWAY FROM FOGGY BOTTOM METRO ON THE ORANGE AND BLUE LINE. 
       

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: akash@sol.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande)
Subject: A succint characterization of theories about ancient India
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:38:46 GMT

Hello,

Much has been said in recent weeks about the nature of ancient Indian
development. However, due to the inordinate length of articles, unclear
references to time-frames, and varying number of claims from article
to article, it is not always possible to understand or respond to any
given thread, idea or person. So I propose that we succintly characterize
our contribution to this discussion in a few keywords, and then explain
our point of view in the detail required.

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1. Was there an "Aryan" invasion in last 10,000 years?	[Yes, No]
   If yes, approximately when was it?			[y1, y2]
   was it	rapid (over decades)			Rapid
		slow (over generations)			Slow
		gradual (over centuries)		Gradual

2. Is there now a Dravidian/Aryan split?		[Yes, No]
   	If so, was there a common culture that divided?	[Yes, No]
		If yes, was the division before 500BC?
	If not, was there such a split in the past?	[Yes, No]
		If yes, did the union happen before 500BC?

3. How did Sanskrit and Tamil develop?
		independently				I
		derived from same pre-language		P->S,T
		Tamil developed from Sanskrit		S->T
		Sanskrit developed from Tamil		T->S

4. Approximate dates of composition of the Rig Veda:	[y1, y2]
   Relationship between common culture and Rig Veda
	there is no common culture in India		NCC
	Rig Veda was irrevelant to common culture	I
	common culture existed before Rig Veda		CC->RV
	common culture did not exist before Rig Veda	RV->CC
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While stating your position, all of above questions have to be answered.

For example, the standard accepted (Max Muller) theory is:

1. Aryan Invasion:	Yes, [3000BC, 2000BC], Rapid
2. Current D/A split:	Yes
   Common culture:	No
3. Independent
4. Rig Veda: [1500BC, 500BC], Rig Veda -> Common Culture

My understanding of Selvakumar's position is

1. Aryan Invasion:	?
2. Current D/A split:	?
   Common culture:	?
   Past split:		?
3. Tamil->Sanskrit, and every thing else
4. Rig Veda: ?


My own position is the following:

1. Aryan Invasion:	No
2. Current D/A split:	No (or mild)
   Past split:		No (or mild)
3. Prelanguage->Sanskrit,Tamil (with lot of interchange)
4. Rig Veda: [5000BC, 3500BC], Common Culture -> Rig Veda

-Akash
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Subject: Re: INDIAN CULTURE - Radically Racist
Keywords: INDIAN CULTURE - Radically Racist
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 05:42:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.010410.11453@massey.ac.nz>, J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal) writes:
> 
> There was a similar study done in the U.S., if I am not mistaken,
> along parallel lines when the blacks wanted a reinterpretation
> of the American constitution which proposed 'equal but
> separate'(for blacks and whites) schools there. In that study
> majority of the black children automatically reached out for the
> lighter dolls which was a direct result of the subservient
> position of the blacks in their society.
> 
> The above need to classify ourselves as caucasians etc is a
> classic example of fighting racism with racism. A classic example
> of how our culture has evolved into clueless one.
> 
> How does one change the mentality of a nation?

A nation has no mind. An individual has. Your reference to a
certain set of people as blacks suggests that you are not free
of racial prejudices. Change your mentality first. 

> 
> We only live in the cesspool we create.
> 
> John Ainikkal
> I think - Therefore I am.
> 'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud

RKP
From: mann@dlorsc.dlo.dec.com (Jessie Mann)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:02:06 GMT
Reply-To: mann@dlorsc.dlo.dec.com (Jessie Mann)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

If the Indian Govt, really believes that the Sikhs in India don't want
Khalistan, there
is an easy solution.  Let the people in Punjab decide.  Then, If the majority
wants 
to separate, come up with an acceptable solution which could be more autonomy
etc.

It is clear from the Hindu atttitudes (e.g. sood and sharma),  why Sikhs
must separate for their survival and freedom.  Nobody wants to deal 
with the issue of Hindu politicians killing thousands of Sikhs after Indira
Gandhi's execution.  

Jessie
From: amara@informix.com (Amar Ananthapadmanabha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Presidential Trivia
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:35:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: informix.1992Nov9.163558.17578
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1diaq7INNs2k@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>
>		Presidential Trivia
>
>  India'a president Shankar Dayal Sharma and US president-elect Bill
>Clinton were both born on August 19. Can't say if this is auspicious,
>considering that Rajiv Gandhi was born on August 20.

Thanks for the info! As to the auspiciousness of their birthdate, don't
worry. They share their birthday with me. :-) :-)

Amar Ananthapadmanabha
amara@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems.urdu,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: URDU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:47:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.064829.22794@leland.Stanford.EDU>, arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes...
>>> ......
>>>Hmm! I guess by this definition there is no such thing as Pakistani cluture,
>>>or Indian or Islamic culture ... not that I do not agree with you .... I'm 
>>>just wondering which culture do I belong to !  and the rest of 8 million 
>>>(?) Karachites!  Any thoughts on that?
>>
>>	adopt to sindhi language and culture.
>>
>>Mirza Ilyas
> 
>In other words, through out my own culture and take on someone else's.
>Why???????????????????
> 
>sahibzada rafay khan [ i am a sindhi but with my own definition]

	In United States when you go out to bar/restaurants/Govt Offices
        university calsses etc you ask others to learn URDU first
	before you can talk to them? Which dress you use "Chooridar 
	Pajama and Achkan"?
	         Just curious.

Mirza Ilyas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: Migration to OZ
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 23:58:17 GMT

In article <4NOV199212284958@jane.uh.edu> st1s0@jane.uh.edu (Hans, Samir) writes:
>G' Day,
>
>Is there anyone on the net who has or is planning to migrate to Australia?
>Would like to know the job scene, migration procedure, the amount of time
>taken by the Australian Consulate to process the application and the works.
>Would be very grateful, if you could E mail the response to me.
>
>Tnanx,
>
>Samir Hans
>////////////////////Imprisoned at the University of Houston//////////////////
>

Sorry mate,

Things are not easy here now. Its not easy to get migration nowadays.
             

Cheers,

V R Kumar
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A very interesting newsgroup you should know about
Date: 12 Nov 1992 12:36:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

If you are reading soc.culture.indian you should be aware of
misc.news.southasia, a moderated newsgroup devoted to News from India.
It often has non-news information of interest too.

It is free of much of the random junk on s.c.i., and has only a few
postings a day at most.  Being moderated is a huge help.

(I just noticed many people who are aware of s.c.i. but not of m.n.s,
hence this posting).

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian Tits
Date: 13 Nov 1992 00:16:13 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.191

  In article <BxKrMv.FwC@cs.columbia.edu> bhat@cs.columbia.edu (Dinkar Bhat) writes:
  >In article <1357@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
  >>banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
  >>: 
  >>: It also makes me wonder why Sreehari Nimmala's backside has not been a
  >>
  >>Oh doggy fella! Why are you so often letting people know about your
  >>stinking CHARACTER?? Is it the result of over working ON your
  >>dog??
  >>: Samit
  >>
  >Why do you deviate from the topic? Please get back to tits.


	Around The World In 80 Ways........

	Prem!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:44:13 GMT

In article <BxA2wL.Gq4@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
> >By naming Punjab as Khalistan only the Sikhs will be able to identify with
> >that it.   The infrastructure will stay as it is.  No, they will not 
> >compensate,, but if the Indian govt is need of money we'll pay for it.  
> >India would not have to trade with us, there are other countries beside
> >India to trade with.  There are Sikhs who want Khalistan in India.  But are
> >too scared ,naturally, since u never when the govt might just order another
> >riots against the Sikhs.  The grief, unfortunately, will continue until
> >the Indian govt makes the first move.  I would rather live in Khalistan
> >than in Canada.  No disregard to Canada, but it will have to my second
> >choice.  But Home is still home.  
> 
> Nobody believes you.  If your Khalisthan is so important to you,
> why are you not in Punjab fighting for it.  Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru
> and all other great Indian freedom fighters did not say that, India
> is important to us, and if we get freedom we will return there.
> 
> I am really sorry that Sikhs were killed in 1984, the same thing
              ^^^^^^                                               
  Your saying sorry will not make any difference.  The person who could
have made the difference was R.G(Rajiv Gandu), by just saying that what I 
did was very bad.  Instead he says on national T.V that when a big tree
falls there is bound to  be noise.  I don't what can be done to solve
the problem.:-(

R.J was the biggest cause of the excalation in the bad feelings that have
occured between the two religions.  Only if Zail Dunger Singh the former
prez had not made him the P.M.  Zail Singh is  another Gandu who being
a President & a Sikh didn't do much.  The biggest gandu Sardar I have 
ever seen.  I don't know where he is hiding these days.

Harpreet Singh



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Ancient Indian Civilization
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 9 Nov 1992 21:17:56 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

S.K Chatterjee, in his `Indo-Aryan and Hindi' says that the Gujarati
sentence `ma gher che' (mother is in the house) can be directly correlated
with a primitive Indo-European source (about 3,500 BC)  as something
like:  maters ghrdhoi es-ske-ti.  Also, of the words in Mahatma Gandhi's
favourite  `Vaishnava jana to tene kahiye...' the ones I CAN trace seem to
be of Sanskrit origin.

Perhaps Gujarathi IS a Dravidian language, but I was talking about
Gujarati, an entirely different tongue!!  -:)

Rohit Parikh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian