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From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: Analog Devices ADXL50 Accelerometer
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 07:17:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

kilian@cray.com (Alan Kilian) writes:
>Analog Devices ADXL50 Monolithic Accelerometer with signal conditioning.

      Very nice.  But what is the resolution?  How small an acceleration
can it sense?  Will versions for lower G ranges be necessary, or 
available?  How about a 3-axis version in one package?

      These should be just the thing for self-balancing robots.  And
quantity use in airbag applications should drive the price down.

					John Nagle
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: kilian@cray.com (Alan Kilian)
Subject: Miniboard processors order status
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 29 Aug 92 12:49:58 CDT


Well there's good news and bad news. 

First the bad news:

My distrubutor sucks. Remember when I told you to stick with your
distributor even if He/She has slightly higher prices than another
distributor? And even if they screw up once and a while?
Well there has to come a time when there's a "last straw".

It has arrived.

I call my guy and ha says "Yeah we got 521 MC68HC11E2P parts in stock"
I tell you all this.
I have requests for 36 plus my 10 so far. (Payment for 4 so far)
I send in a request for other parts and accidentally leave the MC68HC11E2P
on the bid sheet.
I get a bid of $14.17 (No problem) and a lead of 20 weeks.
I call my guy and he says "Well I think I might have made a mistake"
Yep, They should be in December 15 1992.
Oh, No big deal, I only told the world that you have them. Thanks.

So that's the end of him.

The good news:

He also screwed up and said that the "P" suffix was the PLCC version
it is not. the "FN" suffix is the part we want.

So Monday I'll get on the phone and try to track some "FN" parts down.
My guy might have some but I'll check him LAST.

I'll hold your checks undeposited just in case I can't find any.

I might have a lead on 40 "P" suffix parts so if anyone really wants
the "P" part (48 pin DIP without pins PC4/AD4 through PC7/AD7) you lose
4 analog input pins. I'll let you know about them.

Aint life fun?

Worst case is that we'll all get christmas presents.

                 -Alan Kilian

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Newsgroups: comp.robotics,comp.realtime
From: gratclif@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W Ratcliff)
Subject: Miniboard 2.0
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:28:18 GMT



The following peoples checks have arrived.


    Wan-Yik Lee
    Mike Butts 
    Steve Conklin 
    Holger Himborg 
    Kenneth Kron 
    Diego Ruspini 
    Tom Brusehaver 
    Kaihu Chen 
    HJ Dunn 
    Bill Walden Jr. 
    Karl Altenburg 
    Brent Coursey 
    Scott Huffman 
    Erann Gat 
    David Williams 
    Daniel Wilcox 
    Eric Conger 

Progress continues on the miniboards.  The 15th is Still good.

"14 days till liftoff and everything is A-O-K"
Where did I here that before? 

Greg

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From: pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine)
Subject: 3-D Castle Wolfenstien 
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:22:27 GMT

I'd like to make a correction to the ftp address I said to get programs for
Castle Wolfenstien.  I miscorrectly stated that it was "ccu.umanitoba.edu",
when infact it is "ccu.umanitoba.ca".  Sorry for any inconveniance this may
have caused.


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From: fredm@media.mit.edu (Fred G Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: people without FTP access, please read this!
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:00:11 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

People who don't have access to anonymous FTP can do FTP-by-mail, a
public service operated by DEC.  Send a message containing the single
word "help" to "ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com" for instructions.

That's right!!  You no longer need FTP access to get at files on
anonymous FTP servers.  Using FTP-Mail and the kindness of Digital
Equipment Corp., you send a request script to the DEC server machine,
and it fetches the files for you and mails them to your electronic
mail doorstop!  Try it, it works!  FTP-Mail will even ASCII-encode and
compress binary files upon request.


If you are interested in Media Lab robotics stuff:

The name of our FTP server (this will be required by FTPMAIL) is
"cherupakha.media.mit.edu".  You probably will want to start your
queries by retrieving the file named "allfiles.ftp", which is at the
top-level directory of our FTP server.  This file is a recursive
directory listing of all files on the server.

Enjoy!

	- Fred


Fred Martin | fredm@media.mit.edu | (617) 253-7143 | 20 Ames St. Rm. E15-301
Epistemology and Learning Group, MIT Media Lab     | Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: bobw@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: AI-CDROM quest for Steve Rainwater
Organization: Grumman Corporation
Distribution: comp.robotics
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:39:20 GMT

First, let me apologize for sending a personel msg. through a
newsgroup BUT.  I tried 2 different mail drops on ocitor.fidonet which
did not make it.

Steve, it would make purchasing dept. happy :) to have a phone contact
to speak to before buying the AI CDROM.  You negelected to put Network
Cybernetics voice line on the New Product Announcement

Thanks in advance 
bobw@gdstech.grumman.com
Newsgroups: comp.robotics,sci.electronics
From: cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Re: 6811s and their EPROM
Date: 3 Sep 1992 00:58:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pepper

In article <1992Sep2.192201.20611@news.media.mit.edu> fredm@media.mit.edu (Fred Martin) writes:
>If you get an EPROM part in an FN package (plastic leaded chip
>carrier, more commonly known as PLCC), you are buying
>"OTPROM"---One-Time Programmable ROM.  Physically, it's the same stuff
>as EPROM, but without an erase window, you only get one chance to burn
>in your program!

Understand I'm working at a disadvantage not having a strong familiarity
with the architecture of the various parts. Within that context, I was
wondering if one could get either an OTP or EPROM version of the chip
that would work in the miniboard, using the existing miniboard tools
but with the advantage that much of the C support functions would be
pre-burned into the EPROM. Thus compiling in a call to the adc()
function (or whatever its called to read the A/D controllers) would
entail using only a small amount of EEPROM (to do the call) and the
rest would be stored in the EPROM. 

The other thing I've noticed in my quest of 68HC11 info is that several
people offer a "BASIC-11" system that can be installed into PROM versions
of the part (no idea on the code size at the moment) and it might
make a nice alternative version development environment "on-line"
as it were. Or even a debugger that I could use to debug C programs
downloaded into the EEPROM.

--Chuck
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Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: robin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Robin Amano)
Subject: Re: PowerGlove
Keywords: teleoperation, powerglove
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:29:18 GMT

In article <67343@hydra.gatech.EDU> gm26@prism.gatech.EDU (MCMURRAY,GARY V) writes:
>A few months ago there was alot traffic about the use of a powerglove
>for control of robotic devices.  I would like to use one to control
>some robotic fingers that we are developing here at GTRI.  So if anyone
>could point in the right direction to purchase one and interface to my
>computer I would greatly appreciate it.  I seem to remember an article 
>in Byte magazine that was supposed to be pretty good.

I think it was June or July 1990.
There is also a list you can subscribe to.

I think it was:   listserv@win30 or listserv@nas.nasa.gov


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From: syawanar@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Trouble with stepper motor
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:45:38 GMT


> I've got a 4-phase stepper motor that I'm trying to control, by
> sending it the required sequence of 4-bit patterns (1001, 1010, 0110,
> 0101, repeat), and the motor runs for 2-6 seconds (hundreds of steps)
> and then it gets confused and just starts wiggling.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?  
> 
> The motor behaves as it would behave if it had gotten out of
> synchronization with the step commands, but I can't imagine why this
> would suddenly happen after hundreds of successful steps.
> 

It may not be the motor at all but the circuitry. After hundreds of steps,
it may have been possible for propagation delay to cause a major loss
of syncrhrocity. (You did mention that it does hundreds of steps in just
a few seconds) so this may well be the problem. Try analyzing the logic 
output when the trouble starts.

Possible solutions would be to use faster chips or simplify the circuit
to less states.

Hope this was of help.

-Naveen-

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From: sinster@cse.ucsc.edu (Darren Senn)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Miniboard parts kits...  update
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:48:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lyell.ucsc.edu

I've received requests for 35 kits so far.  Very few want the microprocessor,
and the vast majority want the sensors.  So the kit I'm making up will be
w/o 68HC811, and with sensor parts.

Mouser can't help out, so I'm going to go ahead and use the suppliers that
Fred Martin lists in his parts list in the back of the documentation.  This
has the added advantage that we _know_ the parts will be exactly what the
miniboard expects.

Since my kits won't include a microprocessor, you can either get them on
your own, or use Alan Kilian's offer (that's what I'm doing).

So, one last time...  The parts list is now exactly what is in Appendix B
of the Miniboard 2.0 technical reference, sans microprocessor and C
cell batteries.  Using the prices in that appendix, each kit will be
about $35 plus postage.  I'm calling these companies today to get some
exact pricing information (including postage costs and quantity discounts).
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From: souissi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Robotic Crane
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:24:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Hello there,

Has anyone seen the brief story about a "robotic crane" that
was shown on CNN Headline news last night (Sept. 1)?
If so could you please give me the name of the company or
center who is doing this work (if you recall it).
I think it is  located in Maryland.

Thanks in advance.

Ridha.
From: reynolds@panix.com (Brian Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: Miniboard 2.0 & NMI F68HC11
Summary: Can I use a FORTH based 6811 with the miniboard?
Keywords: Miniboard FORTH
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:14:07 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Does anyone know if I can drop a New Micros Inc. F68HC11 FN V3.5 FORTH
based 68HC11 into the miniboard and expect it to work?  The F68HC11
has 512 bytes EEPROM, 512 bytes RAM and 12KB of ROM (used for
Max-FORTH).  I have the data sheet and can type in the pin out for the
chip if that will make any difference.

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From: cyberman@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Cyberman)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics
Subject: ROBO board's a thought
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:44:25 GMT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

Considering the knowledge and wisdom of poeple reading this group
perhaps the "developement" of a ROBO bus standard would be an
idea?  It does not have to be something like an NEW bus or
anything but the implementation of existing hardware in a EASY to
use and build format.

I would think this would allow conformity of parts.

Does this exist?  {standard robotics interface} SRI

Just a thought that hit me while reading about the mini board ][

        Stephen Cyberman@Toz.Buffalo.NY.US
        Scripted at Tue  09-01-1992  00:34:52

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Newsgroups: comp.robotics,sci.image.processing
From: doctor@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Terry Fong)
Subject: help! Androx frame grabber not working
Summary: need help with Androx ICS-100
Keywords: Androx, frame grabber
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:07:02 GMT

Hi all,

I have an Androx ICS-100 (frame-grabber with DSP) board which has
decided to kill itself. When I try accessing the board, all I get is:

	brd open err (-2142830592)

I've been trying for a week to talk to someone useful on the phone from
Androx (617) 770-3450, but no one ever seems to be around or the least
bit interested in talking to a customer.

If you have any experience with an Androx board or know of someone at
Androx I can try calling, please send me a note. 

Thanks very much!

-Terry 


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Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: kilian@cray.com (Alan Kilian)
Subject: Status on MC68HC811E2FN order
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:27:53 CDT

Here is another status on the MC68HC811E2FN order.

Checks MUST arrive by September 11 1992 or your parts will go to someone else.
Remember that the first order is the only one that is for-sure.
If I don't get enough checks for a second order it won't be placed.

An "X" means that I got your check.

First order placed with Future Electronics for 2*23 Motorola MC68HC811E2FN
??????????     bws@ccs.carleton.ca 				Quantity  2
Arnautovic Senad arnsenad@drill.me.utoronto.ca			Quantity  1 SENT
Beyer Jim      beyer@erim.org					Quantity  2 SENT
Butts Mike     mbutts@qcktrn.com                                Quantity  1 X
Conger Eric    conger@rock.concert.net 				Quantity  2 X
Conklin Steve  steve@zymurgy.b15.ingr.com 			Quantity  1 X
Dodson Scott   DODSONSL@memstvx1.memst.edu			Quantity  2 SENT
Hounshell Lee  tlhouns@srv.PacBell.COM 				Quantity  4 X
Kilian Alan    kilian@cray.com					Quantity 10 X
Pathak Dhiraj  Dhiraj_Pathak@TAJ.SOAR.CS.CMU.EDU                Quantity  2 X
Pereira Pratap pereiva@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu                    Quantity  1 X
Picardo Leslie picardo@alpha.ces.cwru.edu                       Quantity  1 X
Puchol Carlos                                                   Quantity  2 SENT
Rao Somesh     somesh@watson.ibm.com				Quantity  1 SENT
Senn Darren    sinster@scintilla.capitola.ca.us			Quantity  2 X
Seyer Monte    monte@wri.com                                    Quantity  3 X
Singh Pushpinder push@media-lab.mit.edu 			Quantity  2 SENT
Welch Rick     welch@mda.ecs.umass.edu 				Quantity  4 X
Wynden Rob     rawynde@netcom.com                               Quantity  2 X
Yeargers Jon   jon@genetics.washington.edu                      Quantity  1 X
                                                                Total    46

Possible second order:
Venable Dennis venable@wrc.xerox.com				Quantity  2 SENT
Talent Steve   talent@chdasic.sps.mot.com			Quantity  2 SENT
Werner Greg    gwerner@CS.UCLA.EDU 				Quantity  3
Altenburg Karl altenbur@plains.nodak.edu			Quantity  8 SENT
Anderson Tim   tim@media-lab.mit.edu				Quantity  5
Lindholm Tim   tim@quintus.com					Quantity  2 SENT
Unclaimed (Smith Spencer if no third order)			Quantity  1
                                                                Total    23
Possible third order:
Smith Spencer  sxs@cis.ksu.edu					Quantity 16
Stachniewicz John jstack@vlsi9.gsfc.nasa.gov			Quantity  2 SENT
								Total    16

These folks are unsure about the quantity.
Congdon Clare congdon@engin.umich.edu				Quantity 16
Puchol Carlos                                                   Quantity  8
                                                                Total    16
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Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: kilian@cray.com (Alan Kilian)
Subject: MC68HC811E2P ordering
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 25 Aug 92 11:21:07 CDT


O.K. I have gotten enough requests for MC68HC811E2P processors for the
Miniboard 2.0 project that I will accept orders.

Here are the terms:

$15.00 each (That's $14.17 + $0.85 tax = $15.02) I lose my 2 cents worth
$ 1.00 each shipping US Mail.

So that's $16.00 each.

Checks have to be in my hands on September 7 1992 I will deposit them 
as they arrive and place an order September 9 1992

Send them to:

Alan Kilian
Cray Research, Inc.
655 F Lone Oak Drive
Eagan MN 55121

This has nothing to do with Cray but I have two houses right now and I 
would like to be sure of getting your mail.

                   -Alan Kilian


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From: gratclif@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W Ratcliff)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics,comp.realtime
Subject: Miniboard 2.0
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Aug29.222049.4513
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University


Augut 29, 1992 6:00 PM  Checks have been received from the
following people.   A couple people have reserved boards
without sending checks or are COD.  I have emailed everyone that 
have requested boards, but NOT sent a check.  If you did
not get a message from me call or email ASAP so I don't 
skip your request.

If I have your email address it is being added to a mail alias list
that Fred and I are compiling.

I have not emailed the people below unless there is/was a problem
<sigh> with their checks.  A test batch mail will be tried today.


The names are in the order the checks were received.  The boards will
be shipping out in the same order.   September 15 is still on target.

    Carlos Puchol
    Ken Cooke
    Dhiraj Pathak
    David Shyong
    Somesh Rao
    Rick Welch
    Michal Young
    R. Charath Ram
    James Bever
    Michael James
    Mark Battisti
    Jonny Yeargers
    Monte Seyer
    Pushpinder Singh
    John Schafer
    Rob Wynden
    Charles McManis
    Robert Irie
    Jerry Jeremiah
    Brian Reynolds
    Douglas Goodman
    Dennis Venable
    Douglas MacKenzie
    Diana Smetters
    John Stachniewicz
    Lee Hounshell
    Michael Tarrant
    Dennis Griesser
    Robotic Systems
    George Hodge
    Daniel Poirot
    Sylvano Carrasco
    Ping-Chuan Tai
    Roman Romaniuk
    Rodney Weaver
    Tim Anderson
    JJ Griglack
    Greg Kulosa
    Mark Piermarini
    Senad Arnautovic
    Brian Bush
    Alan Kilian
    Sharifa Shah
    Stephen Lee
    Vic Sperry
    Alan Peck
    Ray Cote
    Gary McCormick
    Jim Malloy
    Jon Freise   >>> So what are you doing with 16 boards.....
			hmm a spider fight?
    Tim Lindholm
    Scott Dodson
    Darren Senn
    Neil Getz
    Steve Talent
    Manuel Trujillo
    Kevin Krauel
    Leslie Picardo
    Toby Martin
    Greg Werner
    Pratap Pereira
    Thomas Maier

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Newsgroups: comp.robotics
From: fredm@media.mit.edu (Fred G Martin)
Subject: Re: Miniboard 2.0 & NMI F68HC11
Keywords: Miniboard
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:09:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.192907.10931@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
poirot@widget.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot) writes: 

>I have two Motorola M68HC11EVBU boards that have 68HC11E9 chips.  I can
>get PCBUG11 to work with them if I disable the onboard BUFFALO ROM and
>reset into Bootstrap Mode.  I have been trying to get DL, MON and IC to
>work with the EVBU with no success.  I assume that this has to do with
>the serial line echo weirdness mentioned above?

No, it doesn't have to do with that.

>Are there configuration mods to your programs to disable the
>requirement for echo?  Do I need to re-compile the programs?  

DL and MON should work with any 6811 system.  They both have a flag to
specify that they are communicating with a hardware-echo serial line
(this is not the default however) but you wouldn't want this for the
EVBU board, which presumably has a normal serial line.  Type "DL
-HELP" or "MON -HELP" for a synopsis of command-line flags.

Are you sure that you are booting the EVBU in bootstrap mode?  If so,
what are you trying to download with DL?  MON might be easier to get
working at first; it lets you peek and poke into memory after starting
up. 

> Do the E9 parts have the right amount of RAM/EEPROM for this to work
> at all?

This may or may not be clear from the documentation:

DL and MON load a program into the 6811 internal RAM to get things
going.  All 6811's have this internal RAM (256 bytes or more), so the
programs should work with any 6811 CPUs.

IC (Interactive C) requires a 32K 6811 system to run.  And, it
requires a resident pseudo-code interpreter program running on the
6811.  This program (the "pcode module") is about 10K of machine code
and must be bootstrapped into the 6811 board using DL.

If your memory configuration is other than 32K at the top of the 6811
address space (the architecture of the board for which IC was
designed), you will have to re-compile IC and re-assemble PCODE.ASM
with some constants changed to get things to work.  I'm sorry but I
don't have the time to help people figure out how to do this.  You
will have to read the comments in the source code and figure it out
for yourself.

>Will the miniboard work with any of the 52 pin FN parts?  I have
>several of the 12K MC68HC711E9 chips.  (Assuming I can program them)

Yes, and the Mini Board 2.0 even breaks out the XIRQ line to pad (you
apply the 12.5V programming voltage to this pin) for ease of
programming.

Sometime in the next few months I will be modifying the DLM downloader
to allow downloads to these 12K EPROM chips (unless someone else does
it first!).

	-Fred

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