HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS:Arai only
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:22:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: rs6000.1992Oct12.162216.16826
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Oct9.181453.12551@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>>Helmets yes, everything else no.
>
>Well, it depends. My open face Bell certainly suffered no damage when I
>did a face-plant in it. I'm quite sure that in a similar accident it
>would again provide the same degree of protection.

Are you certain that the fiberglass (if that's the material) didn't delaminate
inside and none of the styrofoam compressed?

Chas
From: amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Beginner: I Want To Buy A Bike
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:25:44 GMT
Organization: U of Kentucky, Computer & Mathematical Sciences Division

In article <1992Oct6.161813.22202@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>Now that I finally got a DoD membership, I would like to purchase a bike.  I  
>am prepared to spend about 800 dollars, unless of course that is not enough  
>to get started on.  I have seen ads in the newspapers for bikes, but how does  
>a beginner know a lemmon from a lion?  Thanks!!!
>
>John

Check out the local Piston magazine for boats and motorcycles.  In fact
last week I saw a real nice 82 CB900 for $1299 OBO.  It has a V&H pipe
on it and the color is either silver or white (can't tell from the black
and white picture).  If you know mechanic, you can take hime along with
you when you shop.  Call the local dealer to get the current market value
of a used motorcycle.  Basic things to check on a used bike are tires,
how clean the bike is, break pads, the chain arn sprocket, ask specific
questions like, has the bike been laid down, has it been painted, is the
odometer register correct (ask the owner if he would sign a paper stating
all these).  Check and make sure all the electrical componenets work.
Ride the bike and see how the suspension feels, does the fork feel mushy,
etc.  These are some of the visual things you can check, now as far as
the state of the motor is concerned, that's a different sotry.  Either
you or your mechanic has to know a little about these things to make
a decision.  The least visual inspection you can do is to make sure
no oil is blowing out of the exhust, check and see if the area around
the headers is oily or not, look are around the engine and see if you
can spot any motor fluids, etc.  Check for any loose screws and bolts,
and if any are stripped (that will tell you a lot about who has worked
ont he bike).  Hope this gives some idea.  Good luck-

-- 
- Amir Sadr,  Dept. of Computer Science   AMA  ACM    amir@ms.uky.edu  
- University of Kentucky                  DoD  IEEE   amir@UKMA.BITNET
- Lexington,  KY 40506-0027                           [rutgers,uunet]!ukma!amir
--
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:53:38 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

John Hamilton (john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG) wrote:
:  >> a clip of 9mm into a drug-user and eventually said perpetrator bled to
:  >> death, but not before beating shit out of police officer.
: 
:  BD> Does this belong in alt.folklore.urban?  I don't believe anyone,
: 
: Apparently you do not know as much as you think you do. It happened, whether
: you read the newspaper or not. Perhaps you've spent too much time reading
: alt.folklore.urban instead of newspapers and news magazines?

Care to give us a reference to more than 1 incident?  Or even 1?  You *say*
it has been published in newspapers and magazines, but which ones and when?
I asked for more than 1 incident because your original post talked about 
how many times you reda about this sort of thing happening, so give us two
examples.  Yes, odd things do happen but you made it sound like something
that goes on every other day or something, if that is so then you should have
no trouble citing more than one case and recent ones at that.

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* DoD #496  Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
*******************************************************************************
From: lotto@linda.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Which side do you mount up from?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:34:23 GMT
	<26961@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk's message of 16 Oct 92 13:23:26 GMT

All this fuss about which side a sidestand should be on.  You try kick
starting a motorcycle with a right-side side stand and then explain it
to the rest of us.  Of course, you could just turn the whole thing
around (swap the brakes with the shift lever and clutch too) - but we
have already standardized that stuff.  Personally, I like knowing that
my practiced motor skills generally apply to most motorcycles. 
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
From: danb@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dan Bergmen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda CB 750 '92 vs Honda Nighthawk 700 S '85
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:19:46 GMT
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.

/ hp-ptp:rec.motorcycles / peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) /  9:35 am  Oct  7, 1992 /

>The 700 S seems to have more features on the control
>panel and also looks more sporty.  Is the 700 S 
>sportier than the new '92 Nighthawk ?  Does it have
>more power ?
>
>Suresh

I sure think so. I've had a 1985 Nighthawk S since 1986 and wouldn't
trade it for anything on the road today. I can't understand why the press
is drooling all over the new "Nighthawk" when I don't think it is half
the motorcycle my Nighthawk S is. Mine has shaft drive, double discs
up front and looks about 1000 times better than the frumpy '92 version.
I only wish mine were at least 750cc and would love to have a 900cc or
1000cc version if Honda would only make one.

Can't answer your questions about power comparisons. My bike is adver-
tised at 80 bhp and about 480 lbs dry. 1/4 mile times are in the low
12's with top end around 125 or 130. Red line is at 10,750.
				...Dan
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:14:42 -0400 
From: John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Idiot bicycle races on non-closed courses (was Re: ignore - test)
	<1992Oct12.232739.23488@microunity.com>

>Dangerous because of testosterone-crazed ZX11 riders, no doubt.
>Have some fuckin' tolerance, will you?  The road's not your
>personal playground, there's other people with different hobbies
>than you.  Deal with it, or you lose the right to complain when they
>try to take away _your_ hobby.

Yeah, well the road might not be our personal playground but it ain't
yours either. At least we know how to share and obey some of the rules.
This sharing the road thing seem to be the base of most of the flame
wars. And I'm sorry but cagers often display more sense of this. You
wanna complain go fuckiong wine on you own net.sisy.hobby board before
we take it away. there is tolerance and then there is ignorance. We have
one and you have the other. So just take your toys and go home to the
bboard you belong.

NADZ
DoD #528
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:10:14 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


In article <92Oct14.151535.15488@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes...
>Okay, denizens...If you could only have 5 bikes in your garage,
>what would they be?

I would have 5 of the most expensive dressed out Harley's
available.

Then I would sell them, and use the profits to buy more
garage space and ten bikes that I would ride.

8-)
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NTV-600 Tyres (Go gentle with me!)
Date: 7 Oct 1992 14:48:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 15991@meiko.com, andye@meiko.co.uk (Andy Evans) writes:
>I'm sure that I'm just asking to get hassled here, but being
>a newcomer to biking and rec.motorcycles I'm hoping not to get
>too burnt.

Wrong approach, Andy.  You will get better results and fewer flames
with an opening like this:

HEY!  You bunch of posers!  I don't think there is a REAL biker in this
crowd.  If there is, then you certainly should know about NTV-600
tires, if not, you're an idiot.  So, let's see you prove your worth.
Go ahead, tell me.

Fuck you very much, 
Andy.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!) (really DoD pets)
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:38:34 GMT
Reply-To: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <8091@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> you write:
>Tony Wang (twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
>: HOG#0550903	'93 XLH-DX Sportster		(Ain't going nowhere)
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(Ooooh, I'm gonna hate myself for this but he makes it so easy.)
>Sounds like a typical Harley alright.

	Yup, and I agree. I'm seriously thinking of fixing up my
Nighthawk just so I can get a bike that can go 150 miles between fill
ups and won't have to keep hitting the top end of the power band just
to pass at 65mph. The Sporty is a fine bike for going around town (and
in NYC you need something that rumbles window glass) but it ain't my
idea of a highway bike. Of course, there's that BMW K75S I looked at.

>******************************************************************************
>* Bill Ranck                                         ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
>* DoD #496 Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
								       ^^^^^
	Hey, you should know what I'm talking about 8-)....


Tony Wang
twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu

DoD#0122	'89 Yamaha VX535 Virago 	(Gone)
AMA#450147	'85 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S	(Going)
HOG#0550903	'93 XLH-DX Sportster		(Ain't going nowhere)
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Which side do you mount up from?
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:59:26 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

: 
: Tell me, If  the tank on your bike was at 50% capacity, would it be half
: empty or half full????
: 
: Now that's deep.
:

	Whats the sound of one hand clapping...?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Now we're on to something
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:06:51 GMT

Charlie Smith (root@elektro.cmhnet.org) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct9.165014.1345@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
: >In article <1992Oct9.145206.9555@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
: >>Perhaps you could provide contact information for some companies that do
: >>manufacture time? I've been running short on it lately, and would like
: >>to replenish my stock.
: >
: >Well, when I was younger, I had a Seiko (you know, the perfect kind). But 
: >then I got older and a Tag Heur seemed to fit my style of living. Sure the
: >Seiko is faster and the Tag has a real buzz, but it holds its value after
: >ten years. Of course I always wanted a Timex, but I never quite bought the 
: >U.S. image with Japanese parts. Right now I want to buy one of those classic 
: >Bulova's with the stems hanging out there in the breeze, that don't need a 
: >battery - before they stop making that kind......
: >
: 
: Ectually, what you want is that perfect example of Teutonic 
: (EG: German / Swiss) mechanical excellence, where there is an engineered
: in excess of reliability, though at the expense of a little weight, where
: you have the knowledge that you are touching perfection, where you may
: have a product that doesn't exhibit the bleeding edge of technology,
: but will always do exactly what you expect of it.  In case you haven't
: deduced this by now, I'm refering to a BMW^H^H^H^H ROLEX of course!
: 
: Sorry, the devil made me do it.
: 
: >Of course when it comes right down to it - all these time machines work
: >pretty well and instead of bashing each other we should be supporting 
: >attendance at MSF (Management Skills Foundation) time management courses.
: >
: >-John
: >============================================================================
: >                            John S. Morris  #0316
: >  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
: >    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
: >                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i 
: 
: Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
: MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
: BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
:             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
: 

Well swipe me sideways with a wet dog-end if I'm wrong, but I always thought
that Timex were British.  I used to go past their factory in Dundee everyday.
They also built the Sinclair computers there.

I really liked my Timex watch.  It needed a lot of starting, leaked a bit and
was a tadge unreliable, but it really had character, unlike those flash 
Japanese jobs with the electric starters and flashy LEDs.


Nick (Watcher of the Skies Biker) MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Rugby Atomic Clock (RIP)


M'Tick.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: The Dead Battery Problem
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:27:25 GMT

In article <1162@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
}	Actually you can walk a motorcycle like a bike, but its just
}	really hard to...My Starter was bad and I had to push start the
}	thing several times. A 700 S NH is sorta heavy for me (140
}	lbs). Just be sure you put your kick stand down, dismount, lift

Sounds like a serious beer deficiency to me. When will we rid ourselves
of this plague of the '90s -- I can't stand many more of those Richard
Simmons PSAs showing those poor skinny folks who don't even drink
shitty 'Murcan beer, much less their MDA of homebrew.

"Now boy, ah'm a'gonna show ya how to put some weight on that scrawny
frame o' yours, and...Boy! Look at me when I'm talkin' to ya, boy!...."

[Apologies to Chuck Jones and Foghorn Leghorn]
-- 
Curtis Jackson	'91 Black Lab "Studley Doright"   '92 Collie/Shepherd "George"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)	DoD #721 '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: HELMETS:Arai only
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:11:36 GMT

swollny@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>I was wondering if someone could tell me the real difference between
>the Arai: Quantum, Regent, and the Signet.

Of the current Arai helmets, the Signet was the first, followed a few
years later with the lower cost Regent, and then last year by the
slightly fancier (there's a top vent) Quantum.

Helmet fitting? Try them on. There are variations between models made by
a single vendor that can be as great as the variations betwen vendors.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I got stopped today...
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:17:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <21523@drutx.ATT.COM>, kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD
#106)) wrote:
> 
> BTW, no ticket, but I can't believe he stopped me.  What's the wreck.moto
> wisdumb on this?
> 
Cop was being a prick.  Ignore it.  Or you could always take down his badge
# and file a complaint for harrassment.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Irked over rusty pipes (was: Blue over blue pipes)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:59:43 GMT

In <3932@ra.nrl.navy.mil> weiss@bdcv8 (DEV - Warren Weiss) writes:

>I spent two weekends this past Spring removing the pipes, using naval jelly 
>to dissolve the rust, and painting with a high-temp paint.  I managed to 
>shear-off a retaining bolt, destroy the remains of that bolt with an 
>extractor, and had to re-drill to fit a larger bolt.  The kicker was that 
>after the paint cured for about 24 hours, I started it up and went for a 
>scoot.  The paint bubbled-up in about 5 minutes and the rust came through 
>again in two days.  I just can't win...

	You did it wrong.  Take your exhaust, clean it thoroughly, and
apply a few coats of high-temp paint.  Auto shops carry this for exhaust
headers on cars.  Once painted, put it on the bike and start the motor.
When you smell burning paint, or see smoke, shut it off.  When it is again
cool enough to touch with your bare hand, repeat the process.  Keep
doing this until your motor can get fairly hot without charring the pipes.
Go for a short ride.  Touch up any small marks and do it again.  By
curing the paint like this, you will have a durable, heat-resistant
paint that won't flake off when the exhaust gets hot.  My Kerker header
had the chrome burned off the back of the header tubes.  I've two years
on the paint, and it's still looking just fine.

	The paint was Krylon (or whatever it's called) 1500 degree black.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona)
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:01:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.175908@is.morgan.com> spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan  
Goellner) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.210846.17355@wam.umd.edu>,  
delilah@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
> |> In article <Stafford-051092145932@stafford.winona.msus.edu>  writes:
> |> > Hold it.  Don't these units emit radiation, albeit very little?   
Was it
> |> > not this radiation which allegedly caused testicular cancer in a
> |> > number of cops who put the radar gun in their lap while waiting to
> |> > gun down speeders?  Wouldn't it be a little unwise to put the unit
> |> > next to your body?
> |> 
> |> nope. there is no transmitting element whatsoever in a radar  
detector; in  
> |> fact, since it doesn't (like a radio does) have to reproduce the  
signal it  
> |> receives, it doesn't even need an r.f. oscillator or mixer  
(heterodyning  
> |> stage); all it really needs is a bandpass filter (or three) and a  
squelch  
> |> threshold; if signal strength in the band exceeds squelch, it beeps  
> |> (faster with increasing signal strength).
> |>  
> |> the radar GUNS the revenue collectors use DO emit radiation,  
however...
> |> 
> |> -D-
> 
> Ah then how do radar detector detectors detect them? Or why do they
> advertise heterodyne technology if they don't use it???
> 
> --
> Stef            aka  spgo@is.morgan.com   DoD#0190 
> '82 KZ550 (Commuter) '84 750 Interceptor (Toy) '86 Alfa GTV6 (Money  
drain)
>                 Warning: I brake for radar traps. 
>         Disclaimer? I don't need no steenkin' disclaimer!

a radar detector is a passive device; you can't detect whether someone has 
it, but it is fairly easy to let out a pulse of r.f. radiation and see who
responds as if using one (i.e., see who suddenly brakes for no other  
apparent reason).   and i din't say that they don't use superheterodyne  
technology; i said they don't need it (i.e., you can make a functional  
radar detector without it).

-D-
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Cost of Bike Helmets
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:59:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170351.15884@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>charlie@elektro.cmhnet.com
>
>In article <1992Oct8.021424.2645@elektro.cmhnet.org> root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>}Are you aware that the UK BMW System II is not the same as the US System II
>}was?  The UK version has the stupid "thread the buckle" chin strap mandated
>}by the UK safety people - the Everypalce Else version has a velcro chin
>}strap.
>
>?VELCRO? !!!
>
No no no. The "Everyplace Else" version has a metal tongue and latch
mechanism on a typical adjustable strap. The velcro is used to take up the 
slack of the loose strap.

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i 
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:04:16 GMT
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA