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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Taping (was Re: Baker Street (comic))
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:08:19 GMT

In article <BuJB25.EKD@acsu.buffalo.edu> camurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Cindy) writes:
>Funny how they're offering the whole Holmes tv series
>for about $100 when anyone with a vcr and some blank
>tapes could have it for substantially less.  :)  

P.D. James has said that mystery fans tend to be more law-abiding than the
average person.  While the Supreme Court has sanctioned time-shifting, the
recording of copyrighted materials for an archive remains illegal.  For
the true law-abider, laxity of enforcement and a miniscule probability of
being caught are not a consideration.  This person still has to look in a
mirror from time to time.

-- Herb Huston


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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
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Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.151132.1151@colorado.edu>, men@bjerknes.colorado.edu (Matthew Newman) writes:
> In an attempt to make Watson
> look more intelligent, the writers seem to give him a number of lines
> that *Holmes* actually says in the stories themselves (last night,
> in 'Silver Blaze,' was a case in point:  it was *Watson* who began the
> explanation of the mystery).

On a tangent re. "Silver Blaze" -- I remember seeing the same episode some time
back on PBS (in the "Mystery" series hosted by Alistair Cooke, I think), except
the last time Cooke had some interesting commentary at the end (as he usually
does).  According to him, "Silver Blaze" was fairly unrealistic and inaccurate
in its portrayal of horse-racing, and the story-line was imperfect because Sir
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote it in a rush to meet some sort of deadline.  I think I
remember Cooke remarking Sir A.C.Doyle had admitted that if the events in
"Silver Blaze" had been true, everyone concerned would'be been booted off the
turf for good!

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
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From: vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
	<1992Sep9.170552.25326@ra.oc.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:30:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.170552.25326@ra.oc.com> mvick@hp835.mitek.com (Marty A. Vick) writes:

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   In article <TORKEL.92Sep9172002@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:
   >In article <1992Sep9.141721.8209@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> tom@arthur.jsc.nasa.gov
   > (Tom Robinson) writes:
   >
   >   >I've always though that
   >   >Jeremy Brett is the quintessential Holmes... opinions?
   >
   >  I emphatically agree that Jeremy Brett is by far the best Holmes to
   >have appeared.  Not only that, but his Watson - I forget the actor's name -
   >is by far the best Watson.

   I believe his name is David Burke. He makes an excellent Watson.


   -MAV

   -- 
One of the watson, I believe there were two, is the son of Sir Cedric 
Hardwicke, I believe, perhaps Edward Hardwicke was the name.

Vince Summers
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From: vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:13:34 GMT

In article <TORKEL.92Sep9205128@bast.sics.se> torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:

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   In article <16868@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> beard@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu 
   (Patrick C. Beard) writes:

    >Jeremy Brett's portrayal is slightly effeminate.

     Really? In what way?

     I agree with Franzen...it's one of my disagreements with Brett's
role as Holmes.  I get the feeling there's this thing going on with Watson
that is more than the book portrays.
     Speaking of Brett, though, did anyone recognize him as the starry-eyed
lover of Eliza Doolittle in MY FAIR LADY, opposite Rex Harrison?

Vince Summers
vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu
From: jochenw@ikki.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Other Holmes I have seen!
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:11:03 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen

mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley) writes:

>I spoke with my sister who is a student of films about the
>difference in the Rathbone and Brett portrayals.

  Besides the taboo on drug addiction that you mentioned, I
have the feeling that Brett is the very first impersonator
of Holmes who is not only very British indeed -as is the
atmosphere of the whole series- but who plays Holmes with
the seriousness that he deserves. In my opinion, Holmes
has never been the rediculous and rather weird person as
which he is portrayed in most of the major Holmes movies.
  Brett was actually the first realistic Holmes, nothing
less!

  BTW, has anyone of you ever been in the Holmes museum in
London's Baker Street? If you are ever coming to London and
you are a real Holmes & Watson addict, this trip is a MUST.
Once there, you will once and for all loose the ability to
tell if he was real or just a fictitious detective! Although
that decision would have no influence on the fact that Holmes'
mind was in fact the most impressive of them all...

  Jochen.
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Taping (was Re: Baker Street (comic))
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:31:03 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Sep14.110819.25235@access.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

| P.D. James has said that mystery fans tend to be more law-abiding than the
| average person.  While the Supreme Court has sanctioned time-shifting, the
| recording of copyrighted materials for an archive remains illegal.  For
| the true law-abider, laxity of enforcement and a miniscule probability of
| being caught are not a consideration.  This person still has to look in a
| mirror from time to time.

  ??? So why is time shifting to "whenever I want to view it" illegal?
I'm missing something here. As long as it's not sold or distributed I
can't see that keeping a copy for personal use is anything but fair use.

  And having the old Rathbone series on tape (bought, not taped off the
air) doesn't keep me from watching if I fip on the tube and find one
playing late at night. It usually sends me for the popcorn and root
beer, actually.
-- 
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    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Nicholas Meyer
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 05:30:07 GMT

In article <mxsna9m.dsmythe@netcom.com>, dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) writes:

> What do you folks think of Nicholas Meyer's books?
>
> The ones I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong):
>
> "The 7 Percent Solution"
> "The West End Horror"
> "The Private Life of John H. Watson"

   Are you sure the third one is by Meyer?  Michael Hardwick has a book
with approximately that title.

   _The West End Horror_ is one of my 2 favourite Holmes pastiches.  
(The other is "The Highgate Miracle" by John Dickson Carr, in _The 
Exploits of Sherlock Holmes_.)  I didn't like _The 7 Percent Solution_ 
as much.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
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From: gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber)
Subject: first message?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:27:08 GMT


Is this a Sherlockian newsgroup?  Any members of the Baker
Street Irregulars on the net?

Andy
gerber@solbourne.com


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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:17:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.141721.8209@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> tom@arthur.jsc.nasa.gov (Tom Robinson) writes:
>For all of you rabid Sherlock Holmes fans out there -- this week the A&E
>network is running Sherlock Holmes EVERY night.  I've always though that
>Jeremy Brett is the quintessential Holmes... opinions?
>
	Well, I don't know about "quintessential"; he's certainly one of
the better ones to hit the screen, although for me the strongest things
about the Granada adaptations have been the production values and the actors
who have played Watson.  IMHO, Brett has tended to play Holmes as just a wee
bit too eccentric.
	I always felt Basil Rathbone had the character down rather well but
was hampered by dopey scripts (except for the first two entries in the series,
"Hound of the Baskervilles" and "Adventures of..") and the cheap comic antics
of Nigel Bruce.
	The quality of the writing on the Grenada series has been pretty
variable, by the way.  They've done some particularly fine adaptations ("The
Solitary Cyclist" comes to mind) and some real stinkers as well.  I was
*very* disappointed by their version of "Lady Francis Carfax", which just
appeared on PBS this past week.  It was about an non-canonical as you could
get and didn't improve on the original in any way that I could see.

>Incidently... I've been wondering when this group would appear.  Now
>then, does anyone out there like Lovejoy too?
>
	Not particularly, in my case.  How many of you out there are members
of Holmesian scions?  I'm a member of The Jefferson Hopes and The Noble
Bachelors here in St. Louis,  as is my S.O., and I had a paper published in
The Baker Street Journal last year.  I also did a readers theatre adaptation
of "Final Problem" and "Empty House" (under the blanket title "The Death and
Resurrection of Sherlock Holmes") that has been produced by a couple of
local theatre groups over the past year or so.
>THE GROUP IS AFOOT!

Chuck
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From: gsouth@genome.wi.edu (Genome South user)
Subject: Re: Brett IS Holmes ...
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:13:05 GMT

>How about the same actor playing someone else?  For a little cognitive
>dissonance, check out JB as Eliza Doolittle's worshiper from afar in
>My Fair Lady...  (he sings, if I remember correctly)

Jeremy Brett also turned out a stupendous performance in "On Approval",
a two-hour play on Masterpiece Theater.  I think it might be available
on video. The play is an excellent British comedy of manner, and I
laughed hysterically through it all. Highly recommended.

jcmill@eagle.mit.edu

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Lists
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:01:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.193833.28799@news2.cis.umn.edu> jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield) writes:

>Could someone please post a list of Sherlock Holmes novels, short stories,
>and good basic references for a newbie just discovering the wonderful
>world of Arthur Conan Doyle?
>
>Many thanks.


Pick up "The Complete Sherlock Holmes" (can't remember the publisher).
It contains every novel and short story ever written by Doyle
chronicling the Adventures of Holmes.  The version that I just picked up
is one volume and runs over 1,000 pages.  I thought that a treasure like
this was a bargain at $24 U.S.  I've also seen it in two seperate
softbound volumes.  Any reputable book store should carry one of these
versions in the mystery section.


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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: 221-B Baker Street
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 04:15:11 GMT

   When Conan Doyle was alive, the house numbers on Baker Street did
not go as high as 221.  There is a 221 Baker Street *now*, because they
merged Baker Street with another street and renumbered the houses.

   The "B" probably means that Holmes and Watson lived on the "first"
(American "second") floor.

    Sorry about the duplicate articles.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
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From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Other Holmes I have seen!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:50:59 GMT


I haven't seen the TV series (could be a fault of Arkansas televsion ;) 
but they did air "Sherlock Holmes and the Leading Lady" with Lee, Macnee,
and Morgan Fairchild (sigh).

Christopher Lee is alright, but IMHO Patrick Macnee does a Watson closer
to Nigel Bruce's ... the semi-bumbling individual.

I guess I'm jaded ... I _love_ A&E's stuff ... though I'm a bit confused. 
They've started advertising for a video tape series of their Holmes ...
with only 4 tapes.

Does anybody know if only 8 episodes (or maybe six, as "the Sign of Four"
was 2 hours) were made with this _wonderful_ Holmes pair?

-Scotty
From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Watson's marriages
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:18:58 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Sep14.204036.19503@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.134206.8782@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
>> In article <boh.716098226@sfu.ca>, boh@fraser.sfu.ca (Changhao Boh) writes:
>
>>> But where is there mention of his 2nd marriage ?
>>
>> The business of the second Mrs. Watson is more implied than explicit
>> in the Canon.
>
>   The reference is in "The Blanched Soldier", narrated by Holmes and
>set "shortly after the conclusion of the Boer War".  Holmes says:
>"The good doctor had at that time deserted me for a wife, the only
>selfish action I can recall in the history of our acquaintance."
>
>   Watson had previously mentioned the death of his wife Mary Morstan
>in "The Empty House":  "In some manner he had learned of my own sad
>bereavement..."
>
>   (The above quotations are not accurate -- I'm quoting from memory.)
>
	Those quotes are either acurate or close enough so it makes no 
difference; thanks for the sources, though.  I had forgotten and didn't
have a copy of the Canon handy.

>   I think Doyle intended only one marriage, but commentators looking
>at the confused chronology have postulated as many as 6 marriages.
>Pretty silly, really.
	Not really.  Attempting to draw inferences from events and concordances
in the Canon is an essential part of The Grand Game, as Sherlockian scholarship
is often called.  The basic rule of the game is that the stories and novels
were written by Dr. Watson and represent a chronicle of the life and work of
the world's foremost consulting detective.  We assume that all these events
actually occurred and then attempt to draw conclusions based on this.
	Looked at objectively, it's no more foolish than most forms of Biblical
scholarship.  And considerably more benign, on the whole!  >:-)>
>
>misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
>Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.

Chuck
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From: uli@cats.muh.dec.com (OOOO - Open Object-Oriented Ogre)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Reply-To: uli@decum.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH   Hoerselbergstr.3  D-8000 Muenchen 80   Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:18:00 GMT


>>I suggest we change the name of the group to alt.fan.sherlock-holmes 
>>or the like, else fans of O.W.Holmes etc. would tend to clash.
>>
I agree.

>>Hope there is enough enthusiasm.For starters, any comments on the .sig ?
>>...
>>--
>>Sherlock Holmes observed that ".. After you have eliminated the impossible,
only the
>>possible, however improbable, remains..". I, however, do not like to elimin-
>>ate the impossible. And so I believe, Holmes and Watson were gays.

"... After you have eliminated the impossible,
only the possible, however improbable, remains..."

This would suffice ABSOLUTELY!  If it is a correct citation
( - time to read "The Complete Sherlock Holmes"  (Penguin?) again...).

	uli
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From: linley@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Linley)
Subject: Re: Shocked ...
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.202305.16543@sctc.com> beede@sctc.com (Mike Beede) writes:

>I don't ever remember Holmes killing anyone, except Moriarity.  There
                                                           ^
This isn't intended as a spelling flame (ugh!), but it's interesting to note
how often Moriarty's name is pronounced as if it had this extra "i" in it.

I even saw a commercial for some appalling made-for-TV thingy recently in which
"Moriarity" was pronounced this way.  Is this an American phenom?

	Richard.

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From: mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Subject: Franklin Library
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:50:53 GMT

So, how many people here
got a free copy of Sherlock
Holmes' Mysteries from the
Franklin Mystery Library
offer a couple of years ago?


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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Brett IS Holmes [+Granada series info & trivia]
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:24:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.161652.5265@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.083616.12394@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
>
>[...]
>
>>THE MASTER BLACKMAILER has aired in the UK (last Xmas to be
>>exact). It's a two-hour adaptation of "The Adventure of Charles
>>Augustus Milverton", and as the name-change may indicate, it's
>>been substantially "reworked." I think this is likely to be the
>>case for any upcoming stories. [I shudder to think what they're
>>going to have to do to "A Study in Scarlet" to make it fit in
>>with existing continuity, now]. 
>
>Yes.  After just finishing "A Study in Scarlet" this morning, I was also
>thinking that it would be difficult to fit into the Granada series
>without a great deal of re-working.  One of the biggest problems is that
>to be true to the original story, they would have to depict the first
>meeting between Holmes and Watson.  Hard to start at the beginning when
>you've already filmes stories towrads the end of the canon.

Movies and TV shows solved this problem a long time ago.  The solution is
called a flashback.  Holmes and Watson are sitting at 221B talking about
old cases and turn to Watson's first participation.  Dissolve.

An alternate solution is simply to begin the story with Holmes being 
summoned to the scene of the crime.

>I think
>we'd also need to see a fairly younger pair for this story.

No, this is a job for the make-up department.

-- Herb Huston


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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Nicholas Meyer
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:13:50 GMT

In article <mxsna9m.dsmythe@netcom.com> dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) writes:
>What do you folks think of Nicholas Meyer's books?
>
>The ones I can remember (coorect me if I'm wrong):
>
>"The 7 Percent Solution"
>"The West End Horror"
>"The Private Life of John H. Watson"

Hmmmm . . . I've never seen the third one myself but I'll admit I haven't
been watching that closely.  I like the first two, particularly the first.
I rank them as some of the best post-Doyle Holmes writing that I've
encountered.

		-- Stewart "don't ask me about the worst [shudder]" Tame

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From: uli@cats.muh.dec.com (OOOO - Open Object-Oriented Ogre)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Reply-To: uli@decum.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:53:52 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.160010.25061@trentu.ca>,
	ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten) writes:

>>					.....  I am currently reading
>>the 'complete Sherlock Holmes' and Jeremy Brett is the person speaking
>>in my head while I read.  

Perhaps reading "the 'complete Sherlock Holmes'" is the only way, but:
if a (real) person speaks in one's head, does this mean you've seen
the films before you have read anything of Doyle?
Perhaps I have too much fantasy, but NO actor will ever reach my imaginations.

	uli
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