HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 09 Jan 93 09:59:22 GMT

Original to: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov
In a message of <24 Dec 1992 03:53:4>, hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (3:713/602)
writes:

 h> (Say, where do these other guys get their funky clock speeds from,
 h> anyway? 7.15, 7.75, 14.5, etc......)

They're usually artifacts of the video rate, so that the processor can
remain synchronised with the video hardware.

Like the good ol'mac plus, where at the end of every scan line there's an
interrupt, and the processor has to scoot off and stuff the next 512 bits of
video data into a shift register... If the CPU is out of whack, things could
get a bit messy...

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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From: alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR)
Subject: Re: US Falcon sightings?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:24:21 GMT

In article <C0G1G5.77A@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes:
>I heard a rumor from a usually-reliable source that Falcons have begun to
>trickle into retail channels in the US.  Can anyone confirm this by direct
>experience??  In particular, has anyone bought one or seen one offered for
>sale in a store?
>                                         Steve     saj@chinet.chi.il.us

Gee whiz!! Here in Canada, my Atari supplier - (bit of plugging here) Replay Entertainment (Toronto - look it up!) is going to have a "Falcon" week on the 11th (or was it the 14th...well, next week!!) Anyway to make a long story short, the bloody thing's on its way (and yes, my developer is trustworthy!!) So if we up here in the Great White North are gonna see it (and salivate over it...) I'm pretty sure you guys in the States should already be getting it (or have it!)

Thatzit.
AcEzE.

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From: Dave_Ninjajr_Flory@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR (Mac+ emulator) vs. Mac MS-Word 5.1???
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 18:28:43 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <V69wwB1w165w@tsoft.net>

6.0.5 is latest system recommended by Gadgets for use with the GCR. The 
GCR is seen as a Mac Plus and that is the system suggested for the 
Mac Plus.
 
 Dave Flory, ALERTsys*Cop
 18:27 PST - 01/05/93
 
GEnie - D.FLORY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Good old Darek
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:42:29 GMT


Mr. Mihocka, it is understandable that you are upset about the current Windows
situation. I have asked you a long time ago about GEMulator and its ability
running under the superb OS/2 2.0 environment. You have provided me with a
4 page message crying why IBM sells OS/2 and their poor ability to test it.
This statement is rather very funny and showed me the Fear, Uncertainty, and
Doubt about Microsoft's ability to produce a good product. So here we go
again, did you test GEMulator under OS/2 2.0. Since GEMulator is a DOS
product, and OS/2 is better DOS than DOS, I would hope that you did verify
GEMulators ability to work with IBM's OS/2.

OS/2's success is tremendous and is growing remendously. Wouldn't it be
obvious to make it work with GEMulator and test it under the OS/2 environment?

Best Regards,
Mark K.
From: cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Patches for DB2.50->2.52, DE1.00->1.02 for a.a.?
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:11:44 -0400
Summary: ORA patch file names
Distribution: world
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan9.224453.10037@ac.dal.ca>, cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes) writes:
>  It would be awfully nice if some kind GEnie subscriber would u/l to a.a. the 
> patches to upgrade Diamond Back 2.50 -> 2.52 and Diamond Edge 1.00 -> 1.02. 
> Thanks (he said hopefully) in advance.
> 

 A little more info on the requested files: The Diam. Edge 1.00->1.02 patch 
file is DE100102.lzh (118,656 bytes) and the Diam. Back 2.50->2.51 (not 
2.52) patch is DB2v251.lzh (107,136 bytes), according to info in one of the 
on-line mags.

 Thanks once again.

John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: re W Magro's posting
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 23:41:50 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:

> In <Z9u5wB7w165w@status.gen.nz>, Jon Clarke writes:
> >  Well Atari may not have expanded their machines but the 3rd Party
> >  developers have. 
> ...
> >  - Spectre
> >  - Sound cards
> >  - Happy (the orginal) 
> >  - All the accelerator cards
> >  - Video cards
> >  - Hard disks
> >  - CD cards
> >  - Rom cards/drives 
> >  - and the list goes on and on and on and on
> >  
> >  Hmm this resembles the same sort of upgrades you get for the PC to me
> 
> How many of those can you plug in at once?  How much choice do you have
> if you need one of them?  If you were using a PC or Mac, you've have
> several to choose from... you could (gasp!) pick the best one for the
> amount of money you want to spend.  On the ST, you pick the only one,
> and pay what they're asking for it.
 
 Well it goes both ways. To change cards on the PC you muST remove the 
 case, there goes the warranty and insert the card. Now comes all the 
 hassel like, will it work with OS2, is there a driver for it, will it
 work with my other cards etc etc . 
 
 Just like the ST, except very few ST's applications are inside the case.
 
 Re best for your price. Hey Chris this applies to ALL machines and well
 you know it. A case in point. The async driver/card for the AS400 here
 costs $nzd1200 but hey a clone costs $nzd800. So do I get the best or
 a clone and there is only one made by Big Blue? Har far do we take this?


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From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Falcon030 competes with '486dx-33
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:57:14 EST

Well, I knew the Falcon030 (4M/65M hard drive configuration) was
competing with the Mac LC II (4M/80M hard drive) in the ~$1700 range,
but check this out...  it's also competing with high-quality '486/33
systems!

This is from a Zeos product listing.  Zeos is a very high-quality mail
order place (1-800 numbers, 30 day no questions asked guarentee, good
reputation, etc).

VESA LocalBus system:

'486sx-25
4M RAM (on motherboard; will take up to 64M on the motherboard)
130 MB IDE drive (SCSI/SCSI-II is a $50 option, on the motherboard)
5.25" 1.2M and 3.5" 1.44M floppies
14" hires 1024x768 non-interlaced colour monitor
1MB VRAM VESA LocalBus video card
2 serial ports, 1 parallel port
7 16-bit expansion slots (like the Falcon's "PDS")
1 8-bit expansion slot (bleh; better than the ST's cartridge port)
2 VESA Local Bus slots (one used by the video)
7-bay desktop case (4x 5.25" HH bays; 2x 3.5" 1/3H bays; 1x 3.5" HH bay)
2 cooling fans (hmm, hope it isn't too loud)
high-capacity power supply with built-in surge supression
101-key keyboard
Microsoft Mouse
DOS 5.0/Windows 3.1
Choose two of: Ami Pro (word proccessor extraordinaire),
               Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows,
               Freelance Graphics (Adobe Freelance?)

Price -> $1895.00

Now, sure, this is more than the projected $1700 for the Falcon, but it
includes the monitor (can you buy a 14" colour monitor for $195?), and
two high-powered big-name programs.

This is the "new" localbus stuff...  VERY fast video.  RAM and video
access will be as fast as the CPU can do it, since it doesn't have to go
through the ISA bus.

"Oh", you say, "but DOS/Windows sucks so badly compared to GEM!"  Well,
what's to stop you from putting OS/2 on it?  Unix?

There's also a 2M/85M '486dx-50 system for $1745, with monochrome
monitor and 24-bit Diamond Speedstar graphics card.  There's also a
'486dx-33 EISA system (4M/107M hard drive) for $1895.

Wasn't Atari's last memorable slogan, "Power without the price!"?  A
'486sx-25 will _CRUSH_ a 68030-16, no matter what OS you put on it...

Flame me at will, but I think things are looking _very_ bad for Atari. 
Especially with the recent "factory quality" problems (remember the
"waiting for the cover art" problem with FSM-GDOS?) that'll prevent the
birds from showing up in North America 'til March.  Those LocalBus
systems look _real_ nice, and (surprise!) they're expandible.

-- 
-------------------========================================-------------------
Chris Herborth
cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
From: wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Good old Darek
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:13:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <4JAN93.09101838@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca  
writes:
>Good old Derek
>
>The following is a message I received from Darek Mihoka. Its tone
>is self explanatory. Jesus, is this guy ever one giant sized idiot.
>
>Lighten up Darek, before your balls choke you!
[lots of stuff deleted...]

My goodness.  I have read plenty of messages from Darek that made me lose  
respect for him.  This, however, is _not_ one of them.  All of what Darek  
said seemed level-headed and well documented, down to the calculations of  
bytes transferred in screen redraws.  Most of csullogg's responses were  
infantile and often incorrect.  I think he disgraced himself (and not  
Darek) in this post.

By the way, the slowness of Pagestream redraws is due to poor algorithms  
and/or coding, not the speed of the ST.  DTP programs for the mac redraw  
quite satisfactorily under Spectre GCR on a stock ST.  Take a look at  
Calamus if you'd like to see the result of good redraw algorithms.  If  
pagestream is depressing you, don't upgrade your machine, pressure  
SoftLogik to upgrade the program to make it usable.

--
William Magro                                       NeXTMail welcome
wmagro@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: STalker vs Uniterm?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:00:11 GMT

In article <2664@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> wabe@ukc.ac.uk (W.A.B.Evans) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.141838.18899@netcom.com> yonder@netcom.com (Christopher Russell) writes:
>>screen.  Uniterm is no longer being updated, so no chance of this
>>getting fixed.  I have to switch on my Spectre and load up Zterm if I
>
>	Not true!!  Quite recently (within the last few months Simon Poole
>released a slightly updated version (2.0e 015)). I understand the previous
>lack of upgrades was partly at least due to him having had a disk crash &
>losing some of the later sourcecodes. Still now there is every chance that
>further upgrades might be forthcoming.

I think it's been about a year since version 2.0e 015 came out;
somewhat more than "the last few months."

At the time of the update, Simon said something to the effect that he
doesn't do much ST work anymore, and that this would probably be the
final update.  Apparently he spends his time programming Crays now.
Slight difference in computing power :-).

-- 
Christopher Browne                |     PGP 2.0 key available
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca           |======================================
University of Ottawa              | Genius may have its limitations, but
Master of System Science Program  | stupidity is not thus handicapped.
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari laser...old
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:39:28 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> I guess you mean the SLM804. It is also a 300 dpi dumb page printer.
> It is connected to the dma bus via a separate controller (the SLMC804).
> It prints about 8 pages per minute.
> 
> Alas it does not understand postscript or PCL; for most programs
> you need some kind of emulator (Diablo 630 emulator is standard,
> FX80 emulator is available by DMC), other programs (Calamus for example)
> talk directly to the printer. Interfacing the printer yourself
> requires knowledge of the dma protocol.
> 
> Compared to other printers it is said to be fast for bitmaps.
> Calamus prints really fast on it. I guess this is due to the fact
> that other printers are connected to the printer port.
> 
> As far as I know the SLM804 is not made anymore; the SLM605 is its
> successor.
> 
> Is this what you wanted to know?

Yep.   By Diablo and FX80 _emulator_, do you mean what is called a driver on
WordPerfect, and other programs?  Or is there some sort of emulator cartridge
like for the HP DeskJet?

				-Matt
From: clausb@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:56:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Conner HD on a TT
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Jan_Willekens@p12.f202.n281.z2.fidonet wrote:
> Yesterday, I connected a Conner RZ23L hard disk (120Mb) as the internal
> hard disk to a TT (TOS 3.05, probably rev. C), but that combination doesn't
> work as it should.
> 
> I have heard that various problems are known when using Conner HD on TT's,
> so can anyone help me out? Or does anyone have some documentation on this
> Conner HD concerning the meaning of the various jumper settings??

I'm not quite sure but this sounds as if the ICD driver software does
not implement the TT SCSI protocol correctly. (There's only one
driver that does: CBHD for the TT. This driver will be publicly
available RSN, so you may want to test it for your drive. If you
just can't wait, please contact me via me e-mail.) Probably the
Conner driver sends some SCSI messages to the host after start-up,
and the code that I've seen in both AHDI and other third-party
drivers does not understand that.

-- 
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Claus Brod, MDD, HP Boeblingen   	Things. Take. Time. (Piet Hein)
--#include <std_disclaimer>----------------------------------------------
From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 823k Formatter source
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:20:10 GMT
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
In-reply-to: jher@wixer.cactus.org's message of 2 Jan 93 09:56:23 GMT

You're welcome!  If you find any improvements, let me know.

--
Dr. Ralph P. Sobek		  Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
Ralph.Sobek@cerfacs.fr			   Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@cerfacs.fr					If all else fails, try:
Telephone: (+33) 61-19-30-47			      sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
FAX:	   (+33) 61-19-30-00
===============================================================================
Got a Mega 4 ST. Wish it was a Mega STe? :-|  Do I *really* want a Falcon/Next?
From: marc@targon.UUCP (Marc Dierikx)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: read/new
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:58:34 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Infosyst.,PO 29, 4130 EA Vianen, Netherlands.

In article <1993Jan10.235621.13460@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>Anyone know abou the Atari SLM805 Lasre printer?  I think it may be an older
>model (or something) than the SLM605.  Anyway, any particulars would be nice.
>
>
>				-Matt


I guess you mean the SLM804. It is also a 300 dpi dumb page printer.
It is connected to the dma bus via a separate controller (the SLMC804).
It prints about 8 pages per minute.

Alas it does not understand postscript or PCL; for most programs
you need some kind of emulator (Diablo 630 emulator is standard,
FX80 emulator is available by DMC), other programs (Calamus for example)
talk directly to the printer. Interfacing the printer yourself
requires knowledge of the dma protocol.

Compared to other printers it is said to be fast for bitmaps.
Calamus prints really fast on it. I guess this is due to the fact
that other printers are connected to the printer port.

As far as I know the SLM804 is not made anymore; the SLM605 is its
successor.

Is this what you wanted to know?

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marc@targon.UUCP                   AIR  --  mud  --  FIRE
dierikx.via@sni.de               soda water  |  tequila
dierikx.via@sni-usa.com                    WATER
From: Peter_Missel@k.maus.de (Peter Missel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Kosten
Date: 3 Jan 93 12:44:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K.A50523
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

g>Kostenauswertung f|r die Hermes UUCP Software
g>V. 1.0,   1991, by Christian Reisel
g>V. 1.1.2, 1992, by Michael Bongartz
g>Problem: Das Logfile UUCICO enthaelt keine Tarifzonentabelle.
g>Bitte tragen Sie folgende Zeile als erst ein das Lofile ein:
g>TARIFZONEN: <Sek. zum Billigtarif> <Sek. im Normaltarif>

I'll translate...

Problem: The logfile UUCICO doesn't contain a table for phone line costs.
Please add the following line into the logfile as _the top line_:

TARIFZONEN: <seconds in cheap times> <seconds at daytime>


This might not be suitable for countries other than Germany, where phone costs
are calculated this way. Just enter something like

TARIFZONEN: 42 21

if you don't care about costs :-) or in case you have no such system.

- Peter -
From: etxjvo@eos.ericsson.se (Jari Vuorio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ST-506 HD Interface card to atari ST
Date: 4 Jan 93 09:07:22 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB

I have a friend who has a harddisk with ST-506 interface and he want's to connect 
it to his ATARI 520 ST. But since ATARI only sells SCSI interface cards (here in 
sweden) he cannot use it with his ATARI.
Now the question is has someone got a scematic of a ST-506 interface card for ATARI ST 
(hopefully without PAL's or ROM's)?

Please send me a mail so we can discuss how I can get the scematic.

Thanks  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: church@fraser.sfu.ca (Mike James Church)
Subject: Re: zoo21.ttp
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:55:45 GMT

Thank you all for your advice.  The stuff poured in from everywhere.
Although my machine is 60 miles away right now, I'll try using a
command interpreter.  I'm sure it's the lower/upper conversion
problem.  There was no apparent difference between zoo h and zoo H
(big tip-off there).

So thank you all again!!!

    _______                                  
   /   _   \_                __                    
 Mike | |__| |__   __ _ ____|  |__       
   |  |  _|     ) |  | / _\ _\    )
   |  |_|  | |  |/   |  |  (__ |  |
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    church@sfu.ca
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From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Flaky mouse
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:52:05 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1993Jan5.014743.18540@cs.yale.edu>, by bobf@flint.geology.yale.edu (Bob Fischer):
> Stephen Matson (stevem@solbourne.com) wrote:
> : 
> :  Recently my mouse has started to act less then obedient. It will work fine
> : for hours (or sometimes just minutes) and then , badabing badaboom, every
> : direction is reversed, up is down, down is up, left is.... well you get the 
> : idea. The only way to fix this is to save what I'm doing and cold start it.
> : 
> :  Could this just be my mouse or is it something inside my box? 
> : 
> :  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I think this is an Atari virus.
> 
>

You're right, it is an Atari Virus.
Boot with CLEAN disks and using a disk utility, check the header
on the disk. (track 00, sector 00, side 0)
If it isn't 00, then it has a jump instruction (60 I think).
This means the disk runs something before going to the AUTO folder
(or whatever).
CAUTION: some commercial disks have this jump intruction.
DON'T mess with it if you don't know what you're doing.

If it has data, change the jump instruction to 00 00.
This will stop the disk from running the virus.
You can now safely remove your data and format the little bugger.
Make sure you check your disks for it - it may have spread.
Best thing is to use a virus killer as this will recognise a virus
from a commercial disk.

Best of luck.

Antony,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hsp4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Haim S. Poretsky)
Subject: Re: Atari laser...old
Reply-To: hsp4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Haim S. Poretsky)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:22:44 GMT


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From: pieterf@wsinfo01.win.tue.nl (Pieter C Filius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: That GFA-wizard named ** UWE **, please respond !!
Keywords: responds, Uwe, new account, gfa, magic
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:39:10 GMT
Reply-To: pieterf@win.tue.nl
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st


  Oh dear! 
  
  During the end of december I received quite a knowledgeable message
  on a GFA problem from probably a Skandinavian guy named Uwe.
  Forgot his last name, though, but if one knows who I'm talking about
  please mail his e-mail address to at073@cleveland.freenet.edu
  
  Supposing Uwe frequents this group and finds himself gossiped about
  to his own surprise:
  Hi Uwe!
  I believe you received my response, yet are unable to respond
  on it since my account has stopped. I now have another one.
  Please forward your bounced mail (if any) to:
  at073@cleveland.freenet.edu
  
  Hope to hear from you, 
  sorry to bother thousands of others, 
  but I've seen worse postings and this really matters to me ..
  
  - RowdyB -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st