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From: jegm@cody.esd.sgi.com (Jim Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: MultiScope debugger ... comments?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:59:46 GMT
Reply-To: jegm@esd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I got the BC3.1 for windows version.
I like the MED crash analyzer, and I like the *Potential* of the windows
based debugger, unfortunately it hangs windows pretty much whenever it hits
a breakpoint. I have had it hang for no reason at all. It is basically *very*
flakey at this time. The character mode version that comes with the windows
version works fine. But I already have one of those, -Turbo Debugger. So I have
reported the problems to Tech Support, and they were very friendly, but couldn't
fix the problems, so unless I get a fix within the next few weeks I will be 
exercising the 60 day money back guarantee.

Maybe it will be worth looking at again in about 6 months when they have figured
out how to stop the Windows debuuger from crashing.
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From: twbrown@PE-Nelson.COM (Tom W. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: How BWCPP knows PTwindow == *Twindow?
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:31:46 GMT
Organization: PE-Nelson

In article <Bw4IMt.JMx@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Stuart M Lichtenthal) writes:
|> I have been through every #include file in a typical
|> Borland C++ example program which uses PTWindow or
|> PTWindowsObject and I still don't see how the compiler
|> knows that the P stands for "pointer".  This is certainly
|> Hungarian notation, but I don't see where the "P" is
|> defined.  I did see where TWindow and TWindowsObject classes
|> are defined, though (WINOBJS.H).
|> 
|> PTWindow is not in the "help" list. 
|> 
|> Could somebody clear this up for me?
|> 

Look in _defs.h (in the runtime include directory, not the OWL include
directory).  It defines a macro called _CLASSDEF(name) which does the
necessary typedefs to create Pname, Rname, etc.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: baker@westsd.dco.dec.com (Art Baker)
Subject: Re: MultiScope debugger ... comments?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:32:06 GMT

In article <Bvyyx0.K3D@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> jem@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (John Eric Meyer) writes:
>I recently received an advertisement for the MultiScope Debugger v2.0 for
>BC++3.0 and 3.1, MSC 6.0 and c/c++7.0 (and I understand it works with
>Zortech as well).  

 I just received my $99 special from them, and spent the weekend playing
with it.  My reaction is very mixed.  It's certainly better than
CodeView, but it has some really annoying limitations and dis-features.

 First, you have to buy different versions of MultiScope for different
language environments.  The Borland version supports C/C++ 3.1 and TASM;
the MSC/6 version supports C,MASM,Pascal; and the MSC/C++ 7.0 version
supports only C/C++.  Being an MSC/C++ 7.0 user, I felt somewhat ripped
off by the lack of MASM support in my version of the debugger.

 Next, the interface needs to be re-done by someone with design
experience.  The most annoying dis-features are the blindingly garish
color combinations (coupled with a restricted ability to modify the color
settings); the ability to choose font-size ("tiny, small, medium, large,
and huge") but not the font or the font-style (this capability would
have helped with the readability issues caused by the color problem);
and menus on MDI-style child-windows that don't behave properly. There
are a number of other minor annoyances that become tremendously
irritating after prolonged use.

 The documentation also needs some work.  In the tutorial, for example,
the author went on for an entire paragraph with instructions for
re-sizing one of the debugging windows ("Move the cursor to the right
side of the window, until it looks like ''<->''. Then, holding down the
left mouse-button, drag..." etc.) One would assume that, if a person is
developing Windows software s/he would know how to re-size a window...
In other places, it was vague about why certain actions were being
performed; not good for a tutorial.

 Finally, while debugging a very simple program, I was able to get
MultiScope to hang up Windows more or less reliably; all I had to do was
to iconify MultiScope while in the middle of the debug session. This happened 
more than once using their tutorial as well.

 In short, I feel rather like I just paid $99 to be one of their
beta-testers.  While I think that this tool has a lot of potential, I
didn't get the impression that it was a very well-polished program.


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From: wrb2@ra.msstate.edu (Warren R Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Need info on tools supporting Ada Windows Apps
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:23:09 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

We are developing software for DoD.  Hence, we need to use Ada.

Anybody know of tools available that would help us develop Windows Apps
using Ada? 

We also need to access a remote database using SQL?  Anybody know of help
with this?

Thanks for the help!!

Warren Bennett (u4imcwb1@wescs1.wes.army.mil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Re: MultiScope debugger ... comments?
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:00:02 GMT

> jem@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (John Eric Meyer) writes:
>> I recently received an advertisement for the MultiScope Debugger v2.0 [...]

baker@westsd.dco.dec.com (Art Baker) writes:
>  In short, I feel rather like I just paid $99 to be one of their
> beta-testers.  While I think that this tool has a lot of potential, I
> didn't get the impression that it was a very well-polished program.

In a previous lifetime :) I was using Logitech Modula-2 to write a schedu-
ling application.  We were running out of memory for debugging on DOS, so
I switched to OS/2 with the new MultiScope debugger (first 1.0 then 1.1).

Innovative.  Garish.  Inconsistent.  Buggy.  Unstable.  In the end, I
switched back to doing printf's on DOS because MultiScope was crashing
way more often than my application -- and to me, that's unacceptable for
a debugger.

It's unfortunate to hear that they still haven't found a clue.

[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Subject: WANTED: C & C++ Pretty Printer for Windows
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab: Fine Food and Coffee
Distribution: comp
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:05:12

The subject says it all.

Does anyone know of a Windows-based C pretty printer? 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: mtp@mold.zso.dec.com (Mike Peterson)
Subject: Re: Looking for 32-bit, multithreading environment
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:28:22 GMT


Try PCthreads it has most of what you want, except it's 16-bit protected mode.
The package is intended to be POSIX compliant (at this stage it is up to draft
4, with Draft 6 coming in 2 to 3 months).  It offers priority-driven,
asynchronous, preemptive thread scheduling (round robin, priority-decay, and
fcfs), mutexes, condition variables, etc.,

You'll have to build your own IPC/semaphore abstraction but this should be a
piece of cake once you get the threads.

The kit includes the following components:

   -   A clock VxD, PCtimer.386:  This handles the clock interrupts and takes
       care of managing interrupt stack context.
   -   An application dispatcher, dispatch.dll :  This handles multiple
       instances of multithreaded apps.  For example, I've run 3 to 10
       multithreaded apps simultaneously (I have a beta kit).
   -   A timer DLL, PCtimer.DLL:  This serves as a communications interface
       between PCtimer.386 and dispatch.dll.

It only supports Microsoft and Borland, at present.

As far as I know, the non-preemptive version has been in Beta for almost 5
months and seems very stable.  I've got a pre-release of the preemptive version
(i.e., has the VxD and all that stuff), and it seems to work as advertised.

>But, perhaps, there is something that is close to that and runs on Windows 3.1 !
>If you have had experience with this type of product, I'd appreciate hearing
>from you.

I don't have their address although they're somewhere local here.  They have a
[toll] hotline (206) 957-1579.

/mtp

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:28:21 +0100
From: Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de (Norbert Unterberg)
Subject: Re: Error while returning values from DLL.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
X-Comment-To: devanath@tiger.vill.edu (Kiran devanath)
Organization: Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de 


Kd> I used the wsprintf to convert it into a string and dispaly in a
Kd> dialog box. Is wisprintf giving me problems ? I am stuck at this point.

wsprintf does not support floating point values! Try sprintf instead, with some 
compilers it works in a dll.

Norbert
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From: jmoore@ssd.kodak.com (James H. Moore 726-0322)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Does an application exist to record/playback Windows events
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:34:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Oct15.143423.20212
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Originator: jmoore@garden

Please forgive a really novice question.  I am new to the Windows world. 
I know the answer for the X world, and I was wondering about
expanding to the MS Windows.

The Situation:

I want to record a demonstration, real hardware, real applications, 
pulling down menus, moving the mouse,  selecting things, etc

Then I want to play it back on a notebook with an interface to a
projector to take the demo with me.  No real peripherals, no real
applications, but something has just recorded what needs to go
to the part of the MS-Windows that manages the screen.

For those of you who know X as well, under X, I wanted, and have
got something that sits and listens to the conversation between 
the X server (screen manager) andthe applications (X clients)
and records timing information. Later, it plays back the X client
dialog.

The other potential application is the mass distribution of demos
of Windows applications without giving out any software.  This
will probably also necessitate the recording of syncronous audio,
so that the presentation could have an audio explanation while
viewing the capabilities and ease of use of the application.

If there are any applications like this out there, please let
me know.  If this is not possible under MS Windows, please  let
me know that as well.

Thanks in advance.

					Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: devanath@tiger.vill.edu (Kiran devanath)
Subject: Error while returning values from DLL.
Originator: devanath@tiger.vill.edu
Organization: Villanova University
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:55:14 GMT

I am calling a DLL library which is OptionsA.DLL. It has a procedure
OptionsA which accepts 3 integer values and 6 double values.
I this procedure as :
	OptionsA(int,int,double.......)
The procedure is executed with the values I send. But the returned value
which should be a double is  awfull. In a few words it is seperating me from the answer by couple of zeros. Is there a problem because it is a double ?
I used the wsprintf to convert it into a string and dispaly in a 
dialog box. Is wisprintf giving me problems ? I am stuck at this point.
I hope some one will provide me with an answer.
My e-mail address : devanath@tiger.vill.edu
Please excuse if the question sounds extremely trivial.
Since I am a beginner in windows programming, it is driving me up the wall.
Thanks in advance.
Kiran


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: rubin@.jhuapl.edu (Don Rubin)
Subject: Re: VB accessing font names (FontName)
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ APL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:01:24 GMT


--
|>  bower@hfsi.uucp (Michael Bower Comm. ) writes:
|>
|>I would like to write a little utility that will print (on the printer) a
|>sample line for each font on my system.  (I have over 200 fonts now and would
|>like to eliminate some but want to see them first.  Using the font windows
|>in font selection is not good enough to compare fonts.)
|>
|>I am familiar with printer.FontSize and printer.FontName but they don't
|>work all the time and was wondering if anybody had any ideas why not.
 

I have implemented a program to do a similar thing, during development I
ran into some problems which were solved by doing a DOEVENTS inside the
loop that changed the font. I don't know why this helped but you might try
that before you resort to what you suggested. BTW the program is not ready
for public release but when it is I plan to post it to the net.

Don Rubin
Johns Hopkins Univ APL
rubin@procon.jhuapl.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.programming,comp.windows.ms.programmer,biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: hufft@netcom.com (Thomas Huff)
Subject: 386sx emulators
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:55:57 GMT


I am looking for recommendations for 386sx emulators. The emulator/
debugger must support protected mode debugging. If anyone has a
recommendation (positive or negative) on a product that they have used.
Please mail your response to hufft@netcom.com.
From: lou@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Lou Iannucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: HELP!  Custom Edit Control
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:46:21 GMT
Organization: Pacer Software Inc.
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXDate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 07:57:03 GMT

HELP!

I am looking for a custom edit control that I can incorporate into a
Windows 3.1 C program.  If anyone has any ideas please notify me.  (I am
looking for something similar to TextEdit on the Macintosh).


Thanks in Advance
Lou Iannucci
From: vances@xenitec.on.ca (Vance Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: FTP2.05 and Windows!
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:51:29 GMT
Organization: SwitchView Inc., Waterloo, Ontario

In article <1992Oct5.154050.19408@unipalm.co.uk> steven@unipalm.co.uk (Steven Vincent) writes:
>
>One thing, the VPCTCP.386 has to be pl5 to support Windows 3.1. Since
>the VxD was a free upgrade for 2.05 ask FTP for the latest version and
>installation notes.
>

But then you will also have to get Hummingbird to give you an upgrade to 
Exceed/W.  Last month they were unable to do this so I moved on to NCD's 
PC-Xview for Windows 3.1.  They seem to be able to support FTP's PC/TCP
v2.1 and Microsoft Windows v3.1.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt)
Subject: Re: Error bar in scatter plot with Excel 4.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:09:15 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <Bvw1xG.86z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
|> In article <w2hpal=@lynx.unm.edu| tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt) writes:
|> |In article <1992Oct8.114522.1@bigez|, dmmatt@bigez (Mike Mattix) writes:
|> ||| In article <g7gp69+@lynx.unm.edu|, tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt) writes:

stuff deleted...

|> |I agree excel feels rather bloated in v4.0 and tacking on a
|> |bunch of extra stuff would be worse. Anyone know of a cheap
|> |(ie graduate student wages) scientific plotting package for
|> |windows? I'd really like to see MS strip out all of the
|> |'magazine add' wiz-bang buisness stuff and put out a
|> |science and engineering version of excel (with a free
|> |upgrade of course! :-).
|> 
|> While Excel (and earlier, Lotus 123) are primarily business tools
|> they provide an astonishing amount of scientifically useful fun-
|> tions. How many business users use trig.? I've used spreadsheets 
|> for some really hair-raising stuff, including iterative models 
|> (ever copy a row of cells down a thousand times, a row per ite-
|> ration? Its so quick and dirty and the output is practically al-
|> ready graphed...my biggest concern was running out of memory and 
|> calcs that took tens of minutes on XTs. Excel and 386s do this 
|> with ease.)

Yeah, I've done simple Lotka-Volterra and discrete logistic models
in excel. Its nice to be able to change you parameters and (almost)
instantly see the output. I've generated bifurcation maps and even
implemented the Game of Life cellular automata in excel. But
eventually speed becomes an issue. I typically models systems
on lattices up to a million cells. Not much beats a Sparcstation
for that kind of work. I mostly do word processing on my PC these
days.

|> Actually what I'd like to see is a bunch of OLE graphing modules
|> for various purposes (eg. Geosciences would want rose diagrams,
|> ternary diagrams (with tie lines), stratigraphic sections, well 
|> logs, Zen diagrams, phase stability diagrams, contouring from 3-D
|> data, free energy surface plots, etc. etc.)

great idea
 
|> Even better would be a developer's toolkit with the ability to 
|> compile, so someone can actually distribute user-written graph-
|> ing modules.

definately
 
|> But I must admit, just the addition of error bars would make it 
|> so much more useful to scientists... 

I posted an excel spreadsheet that does error bars.
Now all thats needed is a macro that will automate
things.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: entropy@panix.com (Daniel Gross)
Subject: W4W 2.0: "File too large to save" (bug?)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:58:46 GMT
Organization: FLOW Research, Inc.
Keywords: Windows Word File Save Bug

There I was, happily editing my nearly 4-Meg file -- lots
of OLE embedding, other than that your pretty standard
long document with about 25-30 styles (it's a manual).

I *cut the file in half*, try to save, and I get
"File too large to save. Cut some text and try again."
So I quit (losing work of course), copy the file,
and try to trim it to 1/3 its original size.
"File too large to save." I delete chunks and
chunks, and it saves only when I get down to
something < 40K. This ain't right.

Anyone else experience this? Know of workarounds?
Is this bug fixed in 2.0a? I haven't called MS
yet, if/when I do I'll post what I learn. Meanwhile,
respond please if you can do more than commiserate.

Daniel

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From: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu (K. M. A. Rahman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: DIGITIZE, curve digitizer for windows
Date: 14 Oct 1992 19:57:22 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsf.csd.mu.edu

In article <w+2z=bq@rpi.edu>, danony@aix.rpi.edu (Yaron Danon) writes:
|>In article <Bw477t.J0F@news.udel.edu> 00383@ravel.udel.edu (Thomas R Rocek) writes:
|>>
|>>First of all, many thanks for making this available.  However, when I 
|>>try to run it, I get an error message from windows saying that it can't
|>>find VBRUN100.DLL.  Is there a file missing from the zip archive, or am
|>>I not understanding something about setting up a windows program?  Thanks
|>>a lot for any help...Tom Rocek
|>
|>I am sory that I did not mentioned it in the text file and only in the
|>help file (which normally you use when the program runs).
|>The program is written in Visual Basic and requires the VBRUN100.DLL
|>in your /windows directory (in the path). This file is avilable on
|>CICA, I think in the util directory. 
|>
|>Yaron

	Digitize is a great program! I was in search of something like
	this. I can use windows paintbrush to convert my scanned (pcx)
	files in to bmp and then it is just fine with digitize.
	When is the next version coming out that supports more file
	formats? Thanks for putting it on the cica.

	-Anis.
From: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: FractInt
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

DB>I just picked up this program for windows called
DB>FRACTINT. Does anyone know what this software is used for?

It's used to generate fractal images.  Fractals are a particular
class of mathematical objects whose Hausdorff Besicovitch dimension
strictly exceeds the topological dimension.

(Hey, I *wrote* Fractint-for-Windows, and I don't know what that 
means either, but that's what Dr. Mandelbrot says, and he invented
the term <grin>.)

Winfract is used to draw really neat-o images that happen to be fractally
dimensioned.  Think of it as the 90's version of the lava lamp.

                   Bert Tyler   (bert.tyler@satalink.com)
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