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From: szhang@bcm.tmc.edu (Shide Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: HELP! APPLE Joystick pin layout and ...
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:27:25 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Keywords: Apple joystick, pin connections, circuit diagram

Hi! there,

I have an Apple joystick (the plate says: Apple IIe, IIc Model No
A2M2002...) and I'd like to connect it to my PC clone. I'v known the pin
layout of PC's game port and I'v figuered out the connections of X-Y
position controller. But I'm having a hard time in understanding the
connections of the fire buttons. Each button looks like this *** no matter
it is pressed or not ***: 

                    bottun                                 PIN  
another button -----1--------2----------------------------o 2 (5V DC?)

                    3--------4----------------------------o 1 or 7
                    |
                    |----------------^^^^^^----------------o 3 (GND?)  
                                      270 Ohm


There is no ON/OFF response (as checked with an Ohmmter) when I
press/release the button. I wonder if the buttons need power-on to
function or both the buttons are bad?

A joystick is nothing but I am just curious and eager to know. Can someone
help me by e-mailing  me a circuit diagram or telling me how do they work?

Thanks in advance!

PS: I don't know if Mac uses the same joystick and that's why I posted on
Mac groups. forgive me if I was wrong.

szhang@bcm.tmc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Connections, #4. Repost.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:28:59 GMT

In article <9212160200.AA28729@cwis.unomaha.edu> jcitro@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Joe Citro) writes:
>
>  Joe,
>    Just a short note to thank you for the "Connections" column.  I've
>  been using it in our newsletter.  Keep up the good work
>
>                             ---------------------------  
>                             Joe Citro  - CMSgt(Ret)/USAF              
>       Newsletter Editor - Metro Apple Comp.Hobbyist  (MACH)  - Omaha NE                                   Members of "The Dead Computer Society"
> Internet - jcitro@cwis.unomaha.edu  --==[++]==--  America Online = JAX33


Great to hear that, Joe. That's why I'm posting Connections.

Any chance you could mail me a copy of your newsletter? If so, send to:

Joe Kohn
166 Alpine St
San Rafael, CA 94901

That goes for anyone else that's re-printing Connections in a user group
newsletter. Thanks...

Joe
From: chiu@alumni (James Chiu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Floptical Drives
Summary: Local Store (ValueStor)
Keywords: Insite, Flopical, etc.
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:52:43 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers

A local store is selling Floptical drives (internal) for $280 (Not a great
price) BUT if you buy a drive from them before 12/31, you're entitled to
buy the media (3M) for $14 a piece, no minimum, no maximum. Also available
from these people are External drive system for Mac and bare external drive,
for $399 and $300 respectively. None of the drives come with media.

Standard Disclaimer: I'm not associated with ValueStor, and I've NEVER 
purchase anything from them before.
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:36:12 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: OpenResourceFile problem...bug?
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <jmk3.724405703@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> Jay M. Krell writes:
>I use OpenResourceFile to open it. If I ask for only write access (2), I get
>error $4E, access not allowed. If I ask for read and write (3), no problem.

This sounds familiar, now what did I do about it?  Make sure you have the
"don't load auto-load resources" bit set, this may be a problem.  Other
than that, it might not be possible to just write, since the system has
to read in the resource map et al.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ktf@bc3.GUN.de (Klaus ter Fehn)
Subject: Wanted: Tetris for Apple IIe
Organization: private
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 12:50:02 GMT

Hi there!

The story: I've given one of my Apple II's to my girlfriend, so that she
can edit some papers for her studies. Well now we've got a REAL problem:
I need my PC to work under UNIX. She need's my PC to play Tetris.

Now the question: Is there anywhere a Tetris-version for an 1984-Apple
IIe (Apple-Disk II, Z-80-Card, 80-Column-Card) available?

If there is something out there - could someone send me a disk, or give
me a hint, where to buy it ? Please don't send it via mail, because I
have no communication-program for the Apple (This would also be a nice
thing to have).

Please reply via E-Mail.

Greetings from Germany...
-- 
Klaus ter Fehn		<ktf@bc3.GUN.de>
Neanderstr. 4		{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!bc3!ktf
4000 Duesseldorf 1
FRG / Germany		Tel.: +49-211-676331
From: geh2@cornell.edu (Gail Honness)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:58:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

While working on the Service HelpDesk yesterday I was contacted by a client
with the following problem:

This person has an Apple IIgs and an ImageWriter II.  She has recently
purchased a  Macintosh and a LaserWriter LS.  She would like to print to
the LaserWriter from the Apple IIgs.  The LW LS is not a networkable
printer(no AppleTalk port), therefore it requires a serial connnection to
the computer.  I am assuming that she can use a standard Apple serial cable
to connect the Apple IIgs and the LaserWriter LS.  The only problem I see
is getting the required software the Apple IIgs so that it can print to a
LaserWriter.  In the Mac environment you must have the print drivers
installed in the "System Folder" ,  does the Apple IIgs require special
printer drivers?  If so, where could we obtain a copy?  If not, what does
one have to do to print on the LaserWriter?

Thanks in advance for any information or assistance you might be able to
provide!

Gail Honness
<-------------------------------------->
email: Gail_Honness@cornell.edu	
Cornell Information Technologies

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu)
Subject: Re: IDE Drives
Summary: IDE Connector
Originator: chiu@alumni
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:53:41 GMT

In article <SKNKWRKS.92Dec13165350@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu> sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:

>Not true.  IDE drives take a 40-pin connector...and odds are that each
>of the 40 pins serves some purpose.  Attempting to use DB-25 SCSI
>cables with IDE drives would more than likely ruin both the drive and
>the controller.

WRONG again. IDE connector like the SCSI connector, has a lot of ground lines.
Look it up in one of the older BYTE issue (Sorry, the issue number escapes
my mind at this time)

In fact, check out the old AI (RIP) drives... they were using cheap XT IDE
drives in their InnerDrive and OverDrive.

>You can, however, put an IDE drive in a "SCSI" case, replace the SCSI
>cabling with something that'll work with IDE (perhaps using some sort
>of high-density connector), and roll it all together.

What it amounts to is hacking a cable...

>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
> / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
>(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis          audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
> \_^_/  --==## "Apple II Forever" is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. ##==--


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: tgeer@pro-gumbo.cts.com (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: IIgs upgrade options
Organization: Apple Gumbo BBS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 21:46:53 CST

In <1gjq3cINN6d6@agate.berkeley.edu>
bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho) writes:

>I just came upon an Apple IIgs 512k and wanted to upgrade it a bit (less
>than $150-200) to take advantage of whatever I can out of it (since it
>was free!).
>
>I picked up one of the mags still around for the Apple II and some mail
>order places mention version 3.0 ROMS, and I've poked around on ftp.apple.com
>and have seen gs-os 6.0.  Is this upgrade worth it and should I go to the
>new operating system?
>
>Also, I only have 512k of ram and I've been led on to believe that the last
>gs-specific programs required more ram than that.  What can I afford along
>with this ROM upgrade?

Well, first off, forget about the ROM upgrade.  Basically you won't gain
anything by going from 1.0 to 3.0.  More RAM is a must!  2 megs should be
considered the absolute minimum with 4 megs being optimum.  Any more RAM than
this is basically a waste unless you have some very specific need for it. 
System 6.0 should also be considered a must as many of the new programs
require it and it has some really nice features not found in the previous
versions.  'Nuff said.


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"My wife is a bargain hunter - I just carry the ammunition."
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 00:39:23 CST
From: MATT HUNSAKER <U61474@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ********Apple][c System*********



I sent this computer on vacation.  I sold it on Thursday, sent it on
Friday, got it back on Wednesday.  The guy who bought it said, "I didn't
pay the C.O.D. because I found an Apple ][c  locally."  Well, I'd like
to sell this one, in view of the fact I really want a new one.
Make me a reasonable offer!

-Matt u61474@uicvm.bitnet

*********For Sale****************


Apple ][c computer
w/ monitor
w/mouse
w/ parallel printer adapter(switches serial signal to parallel)
w/ TV Switch Box (allows any TV to be used as a monitor
w/ Joystick (has button problems-Needs switches & soldering) works O.K.
w/ serial printer cable

...plus
50 blank 51/4" disks (wow)
The Print Shop
F-15 Strike Eagle
Chuck Yeager's  Advanced Flight Trainer
Thunderchopper
Com-ware by Novation
Pinpoint for Appleworks
Zoom Grafix
Beagle Graphics
Copy II plus Ver. 9
Apple software
-------------
Apple presents Applewriter Ver. 2.0
Applewriter ver.2.0
Mousepaint Drawing Program
Apple presents the ][c an Introduction
Apple presents Apple LOgo
Apple presents The APPLE at Work
Apple presents getting down to Basic
System Utilities for the ][c
Appleworks

More Software
Music Construction Set
Sublogic's  Flight Simulator II
and more...

I'd like to get ****, but if your interested, make me an offer.
I used it all the way thru college, for papers and reports, but my graduate
work is going to require an IBM  machine.
-Matt
E-mail:u61474@uicvm.bitnet
Voice:(815)399-1615
P.S.-I'll cover shipping and insurance, if it makes any difference to the
     bargain hunters.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: Need SynthLab File Formats
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:08:19 GMT

I could not find any information about MIDIsynth or synthLAB on
the System 6 GM CD.

I think Matt said there would be a ftn.

  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: danb@pro-sol.cts.com (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: Printing to an AppleLaserWriter LS
Organization: ProLine [pro-sol], Rancho San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:07:56 PST


In <199212151758.AA15763@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>
geh2@cornell.edu (Gail Honness) writes:

>This person has an Apple IIgs and an ImageWriter II.  She has recently
>purchased a  Macintosh and a LaserWriter LS.  She would like to print to
>the LaserWriter from the Apple IIgs.  The LW LS is not a networkable
>printer(no AppleTalk port), therefore it requires a serial connnection to
>the computer.  I am assuming that she can use a standard Apple serial cable
>to connect the Apple IIgs and the LaserWriter LS.  The only problem I see
>is getting the required software the Apple IIgs so that it can print to a
>LaserWriter.  In the Mac environment you must have the print drivers
>installed in the "System Folder" ,  does the Apple IIgs require special
>printer drivers?  If so, where could we obtain a copy?  If not, what does
>one have to do to print on the LaserWriter?
>
>Thanks in advance for any information or assistance you might be able to
>provide!
>
>Gail Honness
><-------------------------------------->
>email: Gail_Honness@cornell.edu	
>Cornell Information Technologies
>

The GS would require a special driver to use the Personal LaserWriter LS. 
Unfortunately, Apple has not made such a driver available, nor have any third
parties, so a LS is unusable with a GS at this point.  What one has to do to
print to the LaserWriter is (1) Get documentation as to how it receives
bitmaps, and (2) write a driver.  :-(

--> Dan


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lgarde@scorch.apana.org.au (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: HELP! APPLE Joystick pin layout and ...
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:46:32 GMT
Keywords: Apple joystick, pin connections, circuit diagram

szhang@bcm.tmc.edu (Shide Zhang) writes:

|Hi! there,
hello...

|I have an Apple joystick (the plate says: Apple IIe, IIc Model No
|A2M2002...) and I'd like to connect it to my PC clone. I'v known the pin

|                    bottun                                 PIN  
|another button -----1--------2----------------------------o 2 (5V DC?)

|                    3--------4----------------------------o 1 or 7
|                    |
|                    |----------------^^^^^^----------------o 3 (GND?)  
|                                      270 Ohm
"inside the apple //c" suggests using 1000 Ohm, but I'm sure the
difference between 5 mA and 25mA is NOT anything to worry about.

Also, Im sure that this resister is redundant (on an apple),
as I'm sure the logic in the game control input is normally off anyway.


|There is no ON/OFF response (as checked with an Ohmmter) when I
|press/release the button. I wonder if the buttons need power-on to
|function or both the buttons are bad?
Uh. I dont know exactly whats inside your joystick, but
I'm sure the switch is as you've shown.
When testing the swich you would find an open circuit for
off , and 0 ohms for on ??? you say you didnt find anything,
but how does your ohmeter go at measuring both  0 ohm and opencircuit? 


pin 1 is button 1, pin 7 is button 0; and thats all there is to know.
Except, 5v on the pin is on, 0 volts (or open circuit?) is off. 

|Thanks in advance!

ok, leon


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: .Qwk Readers
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:54:34 GMT

Scott.Thomas@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:

>I am looking for a .QWK reader that will work with the IIgs.  I currently have
>2 that work from a shell environement (gno, Prosel) and I was wondering if
>there is one that I can run straight from the finder (ie, SYS16, P8 file).

Not that I would know of. Hmm, could you post the shell readers to cba2? Pretty
please? I could really use such a thing, and I think others too :)

>Also I am in need of a program that will pack in the .Zip and the .Lha
>formats.

Bug Drechsau about ZIP, LHA works but is not ready for release right now.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Subject: Re: Apple II Forever Music
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:55:47 GMT
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

In article <Bz60o8.8Lu@well.sf.ca.us>, joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) wrote
some stuff, which is not quoted here because our newsreader lets us put
in silly lines like this instead.

Trivia piece #3:  "Apple II Forever" is included as an audio track on the
original "Phil and Dave's Excellent CD" (Developer CD #1, from spring 1989)
because back then 650 MB seemed like a lot of space.  Today, of course,
half the stuff on the CD is compressed so it will all fit on there.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hysell@kodak.kodak.com (John Hysell)
Subject: comm program for apl2em emulator
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:51:48 GMT

Can anyone direct me to or mail me a DSK image file for
the APL2EM emulator that contains kermit, or some other
telecomm program with file transfer capabilities?  I have
source code, and SHK libraries, but need ONE working
telecomm tool to transfer the rest of it into the emulator!

thanks in advance
John
hysell@kodak.com
From: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: cc on cba2
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:03:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec15.193859.13388@cpu.com> gwlester@cpu.com writes:
>	Can/has someone uploaded this to pindarus?

OK, done :-) It's on pindarus.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.240.84] in the
incoming directory as cc.shk. I also put the getopt library up
there... getopt.shk

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: ORCA/C 2.0 is shipping! (Was Re: Missing library functions)
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:17:39 GMT

I think Mike said on Sunday (12/13) that he expected to ship late next
week. This in the GEnie RTC posted to c.s.a2.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: RACTER
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:27:30 GMT

zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh) writes:

>	(re: your .sig : Would anyone happen to have RACTER C source?)

RACTER was, as far as I know, not written in C, but with a special
utility that is normally used to generate customized mass-mail generators.
(So next time you get a load of slightly varied "Buy our stuff" mail,
you know how it was created ;).

As far as I know, RACTER is still commercial and can be had from

Nickers International, Ltd.
12 Schubert Street
Staten Island, NY 10305
Tel 718/448-6283
FAX 718/448-6298

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Missing library functions
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:01:10 GMT

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>I'm working on some software that requires the following library 
>functions, and was wondering if anyone knew if there were workarounds,
>or if someone was already writing these routines:

>vfprintf (I've seen a vsprintf addon, but no vfprintf)

  That will be available in ORCA/C 2.0.

>fileno

  #define fileno(f) (f->_file)

  This belongs in stdio.h.

>mktemp

  I believe Mike Horwath has a version of this.

>execvp

  You'll have to do this one yourself by reading the manpage for
execvp and massaging the parameters into something the current
GNO execve likes.  GNO 1.1 should have the whole suite of exec*'s,
with correct parameters even :)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: Bug in Stevie?
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:06:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.054702.7768@colorado.edu> hartkopf@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Hartkopf) writes:
>
>I have a problem with Stevie, the vi clone for GNO.  It doesn't seem 
>to be able to break a line in two by inserting a newline in the
>middle of a line--the rest of the line from the insertion point on
>gets lost.  

    Hmmm... I'm fairly sure I've done that with stevie before and haven't
noticed any problem.  I'll try it again to make sure.  But you really should
be using MicroEMACS instead.  ;-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan)
Subject: Re: ORCA/C 2.0 is shipping! (Was Re: Missing library functions)
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:23:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.171157.45698@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2ftrribbon@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill) writes:
>In article <behrenss.724537037@hphalle6>, behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE 
>(Soenke Behrens) writes:
>> 2ftrribbon@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill) writes:
>> 
>>>Apparently, 2.0 is shipping;  if you bought ORCA/C
>>>before Sept. 1, 1992, the upgrade is $25, otherwise it is $50 (until Feb. 28,
>>>1993).
>> 
>> I thought the other way round? New users pay $25, old users $50?
>
>	You are right about the pricing.  I meant to write if you bought ORCA/C
>after Sept. 1, the upgrade was $25.

I'm please I've only just bought ORCA/C, the upgrade is cheaper,

but can anybody explain the reason for this pricing structure?????




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