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From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:13:22 GMT
Organization: RAND
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   Pete; have you ever heard of a couple of guys named Rick Johnson ,Bob
Hanna or Dave Baily? If memory serves me correct, these three gentleman
had been known for coming from dead last, from either a bad start or 
mid race crash and roosting past all the other riders only to win and
become
MULTI TIME S/X champions. All of this with numerous injuries each and not
bitching about how the fans treated them.

    JMB is definitely a good rider, but so was Donnie Hanson . Do you
still
remember him? If you do congratulations; because I seriously doubt
 JMB does. Let's hope nobody forgets Bayle like they did Hanson.

   

                       Ken Ferguson CAMPIONE RACING
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: It was a long week today.
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:36:51 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
: > From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
: > Subject: It was a long week today.
: 
: >   Revelation #2:  chainsaws are *very* handy riding tools.  We cleared a 
: 
: 	You guys are crazy! I love it! Wait 'til I tell my brother...He
: 	hates logs.
     

     Hey George, don't group us all in one lump.  I'm SURE Jeff was speaking
     for riders of bht's. (BigHeavyThumpers).  I personally love riding over
     logs.  They seperate the men^H^H^Hthumpers from the strokers. :) :)
: 
: >   Revelation  #3:  establish  trail rules for a group  ride.  Rule #1, #2,
: 
: 	This way, everyone keeps more together and the fast guys end up
: 	racing through the pack but never geting too far ahead because
: 	they end up in the lead again.
: 
: 	It works great!
: 
: 	Oh yea, if someone breaks the rule, we hold him down and piss on 
                                                                      ^^
								      in works as well

: 	his boots....Nobody breaks rules...
: 


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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: handling questions
Date: 20 Jul 92 13:39:01 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter) writes:
: 
: In article <1992Jul16.231140.21294@netnews.synoptics.com> bryanw@synoptics.com writes:
: >
: >First a desc of the bike, 85 Honda xl250R box stock engine, mt17 rear tire, Chen Shin
: >front tire(it was free) stock forks and shock, I've removed turn signals etc. It was
: >reccomended that I run with 0 preasurein the forks even though the manual says
: >1.5-4.0 lbs/in2. I weigh about 200lbs.
: >
: >Problem
: >	As I would exit a turn the front end would turn into the turn suddenly. This
: >was very unerving as it didn't happen at all in the last Enduro I was in. The turns
: >were tight and very loose some were almost a deep gravel consistency.
: >
: 
: Sounds too me like it's a combination of the bad front tire, stock fork springs 
: that are way to soft and not enough movement in the right wrist. Then again, 
: this is just my opinion.  Has the front tire been changed since your last race?
: That could explain some of the difference.  
 
I owned one of these bikes as my first 'dirt' bike and the front end was way to 
soft for anything other than crossing railroad tracks.  If I remember right, I 
went to 10 weight oil, 6 inches from the top of the tubes, springs out, forks
compressed and it helped some.  

On a side note, this has got to be one of the most bullet proof bikes I've ever owned.
I didn't know Jack S. about PM and rode this thing for 4 years, until the rear
shock puked out all the oil.  I went to the Honda shop to get a rebuild kit and was
promptly told that the shock couldn't be rebuilt.  The rear shock was about $400 so 
I sold the bike and bought a KDX.

: 
: 
: 
: >I run 14 lbs air in the front I hesitate to go with less as Metcalf has many large
: >rocks to run over.
: 
: Rocks stink and 14 lbs. just in not enough for me.  (see DNF again)

14 lbs is what I always run, front and rear and there are lots of rocks in CO.
(see anudder flat) :) :) .  Seriously, if you run much more air than that, you
sacrifice too much handling.  I've seen guys that ran 25 lbs at one race and 
couldn't figure out why he couldn't stay on the trail.  He was the KIA type and 
couldn't be told about the air pressure.

: 
: Good luck Bryan,

Yep, Always good luck....

: _____________________________________________________________________________
: DoD #359         '91  CR250            |         Mike Baxter   
: AMA #607249                            |              
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: Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   
: 50 miles of off-road Hell              |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.
: _______________________________________|_____________________________________

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From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: Re: pipes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:44:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.132640.576@skitzo.dseg.ti.com> frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:
>
>     I'm considering an aftermarket pipe to boost the low end on
>     my 125 Zook.  The adds all look good, but only experience will
>     tell.  I'm looking at PSI, Krause, Pro-Circuit and DG.

     Krause makes pipes now too?  Vic Krause used to have a little shop
     about three miles from my house in IL.  My brother bought his bikes
     there, and I still have a trailer that was Vic's personal one.
     He's a good guy, and I guess those Sidewinder sprockets and chain
     are supposed to be killer.  He really popularized flow-bench
     porting, so I imagine he applies the same scientific method to his
     pipe making.  He was (is?) the original Mr. Know-It-All in either
     Dirt Bike Magazine or MXA.

     My YZ has a PSI pipe.  It's dinged up behind the front wheel even
     tho there's a pipe guard on it, and there's a split on the upper
     side that gets oil on my pants.  But it's still going strong.  I
     can't offer any comparisons since it's always been on there, and
     the damn thing has so much power anyway  B^)

     Aside: my WaveRunner should be back this weekend, mental midgets
     destroyed it AGAIN by running it aground  B^(


     jed --  YZ490 / XL125 / WaveRunner 500 / more in the works / AMA
--
           Jim Dunne 	dunne@rtsg.mot.com    ...uunet!motcid!dunne
 All statements are merely opinions, yet are corroborated by a .357 magnum.
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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:19:05 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
> Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
> 
>      First overall!!!! No way mate!  Can't believe you could kick ass
>      like that on the first try.  It may have been Novice class, but
>      with all the experience you have with bikes in general, that's what
>      carried you thru to the trophy.  Way to go dude   B^)

	Naaa, it was easy......cough...splutter..spew..
> 
>      Question -- how'd you get those KX's of yours street legal?  Do

	I've emailed a couple of people already. I'll post it too.

>      >>> Thought I had to run from a copper late Saturday night, but I

	You weren't on the YZ were you?....Riding on the road?...Very
	naughty....I'm not impressed my boy.....

	Cheers
	George C.

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From: chess1@bnr.ca (Pete Abovyan)
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:53:27 GMT


JMB kicked every ass there was last year (Supercross, 250 and 500 outdoor).
He lapped Wardy when I watched him in Dallas this year!  I know that he had an
8" plate in his right arm in Florida when the SX races began.

He is the only rider capable of starting dead last and roosting his way to
the front * **

Wrist action dude.
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: new seat
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:04:05 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2




       George; How ya doin Mate?  I happen to use the WOR seat. it comes
complete 
with foam . I appreciate your wanting to use a yank company but are'nt you
worried about turn around time? It would probably take about 3 weeks just 
to get your seat back. But if this what you want to do then so be it.

        I am personnal freinds with the WOR people and I think I can get
you 
pretty good discount. Here in the states the at least in So Cal. the WOR
seat is the best. They match the graphics of the seat to your bike and
have the best detailing of any of the aftermarket seats I have seen on
the market.

      If your interested let me know and I will get you a price and 
brochure
just give me your mailing address. In the mean time keep gassin it old
fart.


         Fair Dinkum Mate Ken
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Date: 20 Jul 92 13:47:32 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
: Howdy,
: 
: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson) writes:
: > Bale was reported to have ignored Stanton's victory by riding past him on
: > the
: > finish line, went straight to the pits and changed. No one saw anymore of
: > him 
: > after that. Some team mate. Stanton later said "Now he can go back to
: > France
: > where he will be happy.
: 
: What was the deal with Bayle this season?  He always seemed to be
: something of a prick.  Last year after he won 3 championships, he
: kinda said that he didn't really care about 'em (making everyone else
: feel great I'm sure).  This year he tried to ditch the last race, and
: blamed Stanton for his fuck up that put him outta the championship.
: Everyone always says that he gets shit for being a non-American and
: winning, but it seemed to me that he was something of a dick himself.

After reading all the hype about him gettin booed at all the Super X's, I 
thought, what a bunch of un-appreciative spectators.  This guy comes here 
and does something no one else has done and they boo him!!  Well, my 
opinion changed towards the end of the season, when it became apparent that
he wasn't going to repeat.  He turned into (remained?) just another 
sniveling, whining, "it's not my fault" pinhead.  I kinda wish Bradshaw had
taken him out at Vegas.  BTW, maybe Bradshaw learned a lesson there.  He 
threw his chances away at Vegas with the Bonehead move of the year.

: 
: Mark

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From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:02:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.060323.19044@convex.com> couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
> [lots...]

Is this rec.motorcycles.dirt or rec.motorcycles.George.Couyant? My god, man,
you've got a race coming up! Shouldn't you twisting wrenches and safety wire
instead of wasting all this time posting news?

At any rate, the idea of converting an MX bike into a road racer isn't all that
crazy. I can hardly think of a cheaper way to get into road racing than to take
a used dirt bike (as we all know how much dirt bikes depreciate) and apply a
formula DTX conversion to it; I'd wager that it's even cheaper than a Singles
class entry. Good thing dirt bike frames and forks are stouter than they used
to be...

The CR has the Open-class motor of doom - however, I probably would've started
with a KX500 (I bet George will be in the market for a Unic damper before the
weekend is out.)

(By the way George - good luck, mate. Shred heavily...)



-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
DoD #0x451
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:46:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: garyb@pdxgp1 (Gary Brown)
> Subject: Re: Road Racer

	I'm so excited yet intimidated by this project that I've driven
	everyone in our office crazy with my endless chatter.....Don't
	think that rec.mot..dirt will escape!

	It's like starting out again! ...even better than sex....well, at
	least for a few days at a time.
> 
>   Yes.  Get a steering damper for it and lower the fork tubes as low as
>   they'll go in the triple clamps to help with that headshake.  I don't 

	Yea, I've toyed with the idea of a steering damper after a couple
	of rides whilst doing endless plug cuts to check the jetting. I
	had a bit of a wobble just when I hit the brakes hard over some
	bumps, but it was controlable. I don't really like a damper though
	because it's kind of a quick and dirty fix for bad frame and
	steering geometry.....besides, I couldn't borrow one....

	I'm just about out of adjustment as far as suspension goes though.
	Like I said, I've shortened both the front and rear suspension and
	changed the attitude of the bike so that it sits a lot lower in
	the back to help kick the front out. I'll see how I go and if it's
	bad on the track, I might make up some new triple clamps or cut
	and weld the frame to kick the steering rake angle out a degree or
	so. (my time is a lot cheaper than buying exotic bits.....)

>   think I'd like to ride a CR at a 110mph on the asphalt.  When I get my
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			     Now you know why I'm shitting myself...

>   Husky 430 revving high on the street it vibrates my buns off.  Of course,

	Well, I'm surprised by this CR's motor. I've added a bit of weight
	to the flywheel and gone for heavier steel chutch plates (instead
	of the stock alloy) and had the whole lot including crank etc.
	dynamically balanced. It's quite smooth up high. The power pulses
	down low though, are very noticable (though that could be because
	I don't have the bottom end jetting right).

>   I have knobbies on it too which doesn't help.
> 
>   Have fun, good luck, and don't get hurt (in that order)!
>   Gary Brown

	Hey thanks Gazza! 
	George Couyant.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:11:04 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Jul24.230208.1217@c3.PLA.CA.US> niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard) writes:
>
>Is this rec.motorcycles.dirt or rec.motorcycles.George.Couyant? My god, man,

	What, ya reckon we need to create it? Ok..  He he he..  ;-)

	Cheers Neal
	George C.

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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Braking Secrets of the Pros Revealed
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:28:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.195435.16877@colorado.edu> matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>   "Occasionally, however, you may find it necessary to stop in a 
>real hurry.  The procedure for emergency stops, as given by the 
>California Highway Patrol Academy to its motorcycle students, is
>this:
>   o  Apply rear-wheel brake, locking rear wheel.
>   o  Close throttle, cutting off gas supply, and release clutch.
>   o  At the same time, apply front-wheel brake, but keep front
>      wheel straight with the direction of travel.
>   o  If the machine broadslides, hold wheel straight with the 
>      direction of travel and hold balance by leaning _away_
>      from the side to which the rear-end is sliding."

stay tuned for my account of the rcr, a portion of which which may or may not
bear a striking :-) resemblence to these instructions.

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From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: Aerostich Crash Test
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel	
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:52:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.173550.16166@bwdls61.bnr.ca>, keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) writes:
|> In article <JEP.92Jul29101739@thneed.cs.duke.edu> jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
|> >
|> > [Aerostitch passes abrasion test...]
|> 
|> 
|> Anyways, my leathers wouldn't have protected my knee that well.
|> Much as I love the feel and smell of leather, I now restrict my
|> use of it to the bedroom.  :-)
|> 

  Right, but dont forget, that padding saved your knee, you could
have just as easily been wearing a leather suit with armor or padding
in the same place !

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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Golden Spectro = Vibration?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:23:29 GMT

ahle@anke.abo.fi (Peter Ahlskog DC) writes:

>SO. A couple a years ago the worst thing one could do, was to put Mobil 1
>into a bike. It was said that Mobil 1 was a too god oil for bikes, too thin
>(?) so the clutch would slip. What excactly has happened? What have they
>changed in Mobil 1? Or was this talk just bullshit?!?!

Of course it was bullshit, just like 90% of everything on the net is. :-)
Of course I'm being a bit too hard on the net. The BS factor here isn't
any worse than what you find at the local dealer, or any gathering of riders.

> The most common Mobil 1 here is the 5W50, which I
>suppose isn't the correct one for a bike?!?!?

I'm using 15W50 in my FJ, I've never seen 5W50.
-- 
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Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: erika@znext.uucp (erik astrup)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help with oil leak!
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:47:23 GMT
Organization: pnet
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mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman) writes:
: 
: 
: 
: My Honda twin leaks oil from the cylinder head. I'm losing compression (93
: left, 100 right rather than the 180-200 psi listed in Clymer) and the bike is
: very sluggish and won't surpass 55 mph.

	No doubt it runs like crap. By the sound of it (93/100 psi) you
need new rings. 

: 
: I'd like to replace the head gasket but it seems like a very big job for a
: novice since everything has to be removed to get to it. The only maintanence
: I've done so far (I've had the bike since July 7th) is adjust the oil level
: and tighten the chain so I am REALLY new at this. Being low on funds I think
: that taking the bike to a shop is out of my budget (does anyone know what
: they'll charge?). 

	You need to do more than just replace the head gasket. If your
compression is really that low, your rings are gone. Now your talking some
money. Is it burning oil? Did you perform your compression test right? By
that I mean, did you have the throttle ALL THE WAY OPEN when cranking the
motor? 

: Has anyone done similar jobs on their bikes? Does anyone have ANY advice on the
: repairs? How dangerous is it not to repair it quite yet (in terms of damage to

	Dangerous? I think not, but you'll end up running it into the
ground...now it can't go over 55, soon it may not go at all. 

: the bike and accidents - power failure)? Do you think that I can do the repair
: myself? How long would it take to do the job (I'm going away for August and

	If your a mechanical novice, your in for a potentially long a
frustrating battle. I believe you will need to get the cyclinders honed as
well. You can probably do it...question is, do you really want to dive
into it? 
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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: lotto@laura.harvard.edu's message of 27 Jul 92 16:32:57 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
	<1992Jul26.012957.17632@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
	<LOTTO.92Jul27123257@laura.harvard.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:08:20 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Jul27123257@laura.harvard.edu>, lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:

>>>>>> On 26 Jul 92 01:29:57 GMT, car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) said:
>car> Properly fitted and used helmets work, often in spectacular fashion.
>car> Helmet laws demonstrably don't.  If those pushing for helmet laws

> I strive to NOT take a position on helmet laws, but I do follow the
> arguments both for and against as time permits.  The last word I had
> regarding studies on the effectiveness of helmet laws was the GAO
> report - which concluded that helmet LAWS are reasonably effective in
> both increasing helmet use AND reducing head injury.  [...etc...]

Even if this is true, it does not constitute and "economic argument"
in favor of helmet laws.  It establishes that there are some benefits
of the laws, not too surprising, but it does not consider the costs.
It's still not clear that the helmets reduce accidents or fatalities
overall.  It's not clear that there is no substitution factor.  But
most important, there is no consideration of the direct economic costs
of the helmets themselves.  There is a substantial cost to "society" 
of outfitting all those people with helmets.

It's a familiar pattern.  Most any sort of foolish proposition
can be defended on the grounds that it does some sort of good.
What's more difficult to establish, and what is usually glossed
over, is whether or not there is any real net benefit compared
to other alternative uses for the money (most attractively to
leave it in the hands of the people).  Of course, in this case,
it's just none of anybody's business but that of the rider.
--
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slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
From: mehta-anand@CS.YALE.EDU (Anand Mehta)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: System III differences (need info)
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:43:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul24.164316.29045
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158

Could someone tell me the difference between the 'regular'
System III helmet (white, red, grey) and the special one
(black) that seems to cost almost twice as much.

Thanks,

-Anand

amehta@minerva.cis.yale.edu
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