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From: pwy6d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Phil Yarrington (SG))
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:26:30 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep4.043930.24979@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 2120158@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU writes:
>In article <Btw2Cv.u2@brunel.ac.uk> Robert.Turner@brunel.ac.uk (Robert Turner) writes:
>>
>>2) Why is Durnik not re-named Beldurnik after he becomes recognised as a
>>disciple of Aldur?
>
>  If you remember that between themselves they call each other their "natural"
>names (ie Belgarion is forever being called Garion), and that they only use
>their "formal" name when in a lot of publicity (ie in cities or the courts of
>kings), and as they were never in city (at least with us) I really can't tell
>what they called Beldurnik.

Apparently, this is only true of (Bel)Garion.  I never once heard any
one call Belgarath "Garath" or Polgara "Gara" or Beldin "Din".  The
only other sorcerer that I can recall not being called by his full
name was Zedar, and of course, he gave up his "Bel".  It's been a
while since I've read the Mallorean, but isn't Durnik referred to as
Bel-Durnik at some point or another?

On a completely different topic, I watched the show Covington Cross
when it premiered, and I was dissapointed.  I think it has promise,
though.  First, they have to drop Ione Skye(sp?).  I thought her and
her feminist attitudes were completely out of place (before I get
flamed, I'm not an anti-feminist, I just don't think it belonged in that
particular setting).  I particularly liked the father.  I think the
actor's name is Nigel Terry.  Can someone tell me where I've seen him
before.  He didn't happen to play King Arthur in the movie Excaliber,
did he?

Well, that's my $.02 for now.

-phil
From: ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard Iswara)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:13:21 GMT
	<1992Sep2.101923.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>
Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> > Is Durnik ever actually called a disciple of Aldur?  Again, maybe it's
> > toward the end of _The Malloreon_.  But at least up through the halfway
> > point in _Sorceress of Darshiva_ he isn't.
> 
> At the beginning of Seeress, Belgarath tells Polgara that Durnik should have a
> tower in the Vale as all the others have one - also to get peace from
her;-).


Read the end of Sorceress of Darshiva. The scene after Durnik hammered 
the Demon Lord Nahaz. 

Richard
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From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: Hardback Belgariad?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:12:14



In article <pad.714868485@probitas> pad@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Paul A 
Daniels) writes:

>> In <a133PB2w165w@halcyon.com> Sarah Skovronsky <sparky@halcyon.com> writes:

>> >Is there a hardback version of the Belgariad?  I've heard that it's only
>> >possible to get it in the UK.  I'd be willing to pay postage and price, 
>> >etc.,if I could get these books. 

>> >Sarah Skovronsky
>> >Please email sparky@halcyon.com...thanks.

>>   Wow, you mean the hardbacks may still be available??? If anyone has
>> any info on where and how to get these could they PLEASE bounce a message
>> my way about it.

>>   Thanks, 
>>	   Paul.

>> pad@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au


Well, if you don't really care about getting the individual hardback novels
with those great artistic dust-jackets;

I bought a hardback two volume set (all 5 books) of the Belgariad from:

	The Science Fiction Book Club
	Garden City, NY
		    USA

for about $36.00 US if I remember correctly. The dust jackets are not nearly
as artistic, but the books are unabridged and printed on acid free paper. If
anybody is interested, I can look up the complete address tonight when I go
home. It's one of those book clubs that sends you a notice, and then sends you
the "monthly selection" unless you actively say no. I dropped out because I'm
on the road so much that I kept getting books I didn't want and couldn't return
to them. For overseas customers I understand that they will switch to only
sending you books you ask for (one time when the US centric view fails ;-) ).

They're not a bad deal on value. It's a quality printing job (in a slightly
smaller print face, but quite legible) with a fair selection.

I hope that helps.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


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From: lwl@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Lydia Leong)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: MUSH?
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:07:23 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow

In article <1992Aug22.174559.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> gibbs2@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Alex R. Gibbs) writes:
>BelgariadMUSH?  Where?  Sounds interesting...

Yup, there's a Belgariad MUSH, set roughly 10 years after the events at
the end of _Seeress of Kell_. Not all is well with the world (yeah, so
we wrecked the happy ending a little...) -- it seems that there are _other_
prophecies, and even though the Child of Dark is vanquished, evil is NOT
gone from the world (surprise surprise).

----

Here's a sample from the latest story file:

ALORIA:

In Cherek and Riva, though scores of soldiers have been sent out to search
for word of the missing Orb of Aldur, nothing has been uncovered.

SENDARIA:

The pestilence in Sendaria has grown worse, and King Fulrach has been
considering to ask for aid from his neighboring monarchs in sheer
desperation.

GAR OG NADRAK:

King Drosta lek Thun ordered that the walls of Yar Marak be built up, and
ordered a general mobilization in response to the incursions by the now-
united Morinds.

----

There's also a rather interesting civil war in Cthol Murgos, several
demons running around in Morindland, renegade Grolims trying to preserve
the old religion, and far, far too many sub-plots to list.

The emphasis is on role-playing, although there is a rather extensive
(and constantly improving) combat and economy system to improve "realism".
It's easy to get into (the MUSH programming language is quite simple to
learn), and there are still some major characters from the books that
aren't being played.

Come check it out! "telnet csa.bu.edu 4201" and follow the directions.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lydia Leong - CSE '94 | Amberyl@Pern  | "Just try to make sure that Polgara's
lwl@seas.upenn.edu    | Polgara@Aldur |  not in the vicinity of anything 
lwl@imsasun.imsa.edu  | The Belgariad |  breakable when she gets angry. Like
lwl@csa.bu.edu        | "Why me?"     |  large cities and mountain ranges."
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From: Robert.Turner@brunel.ac.uk (Robert Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Questions
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:34:06 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

Hokay, have just finished the Seeress, after re-reading all nine other
books immediately before, and have a few simple questions....

1) What is on Belgareths' Amulet?  Polgara has an owl (I believe),
Ce'Nedra a tree, Belgarion the orb and Durnik a hammer, but I can't find
anywhere any comments about Belgareths' design. I assume that it must be
a wolf, but no confirmation anywhere in the book.

2) Why is Durnik not re-named Beldurnik after he becomes recognised as a
disciple of Aldur?

3) What happens to Beldin and Vella?

4) Why are the twins not in the Mallorean at all?

5) What sex are Polgaras' children?

If anyone can answer these questions that are niggling at the back of my
mind I would be most appreciative.

Rob

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From: hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: RE:Covington Cross
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:49:52 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        Ah, but have you noticed how many sitcoms survive?  

                                Kitten.
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From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:19:23 GMT

 
> Is Durnik ever actually called a disciple of Aldur?  Again, maybe it's
> toward the end of _The Malloreon_.  But at least up through the halfway
> point in _Sorceress of Darshiva_ he isn't.
> 
> --
> |  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
> |     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |

At the beginning of Seeress, Belgarath tells Polgara that Durnik should have a
tower in the Vale as all the others have one - also to get peace from her;-).
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From: s1070627@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Brett Paterson)
Subject: Re: COVINGTON CROSS
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:55:26 GMT

  Apparently Covington Cross will be coming to Australia as well, as Hinch had
a story on it last night (2/9/92).  This was seen in Victoria, so I'm not sure
about the other states.  It would probably be shown on the 10 network and
associated stations.

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   / Leongatha 3953.                  |  quite an interesting thing..    //
  / Victoria, Australia.              |  ..Tell me about it."           //
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CLAIMER:  The views expressed here are all my employers, and if anything I
          say offends anyone in anyway, then it is all my employers fault.

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From: g92k4260@ru.ac.za (Bryan Kilian)
Subject: Re: Sorcery
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:15:37 GMT

S961246@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU wrote:
> If I remember correctly, didn't Belgarath at one point in the series make a sta
> tment to the effect of Sorcery only being effective at the time it is used, but
>  that the effect lingers as long as the sorceror (or sorceress) is alive ?
>  Case in point: when Zandramas set the confusion spell on the Mrin Codex which
> functioned until broken.

It wasn't Zandramas that set the confusion spell. The person that did set it
was never actually mentioned, but Zandramas only became powerful after Torak
died and the compulsion was put on when the codex was written. Does anyone
have any ideas as to who _did_ put that compulsion on the codex?

Bryan

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:12:27 PDT

In article <9209011240.AA00364@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu>, asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher) writes:
> In article <Btw2Cv.u2@brunel.ac.uk> you write:
> 
>>1) What is on Belgareths' Amulet?  Polgara has an owl (I believe),
>>Ce'Nedra a tree, Belgarion the orb and Durnik a hammer, but I can't find
>>anywhere any comments about Belgareths' design. I assume that it must be
>>a wolf, but no confirmation anywhere in the book.
> 
> I am sure that somewhere in the Belgariad it is mentioned that Belgareth's is
> a wolf.  Look at the section where Ce'Nedra gets hers, I think in the third
> book.  Maybe the fourth.

Nope, the only amulets in evidence during that scene are Garion's and
Ce'Nedra's.  Neither Belgarath nor Polgara produce theirs,  Perhaps you're
remembering that Belgarath takes credit for having made Ce'Nedra's when
she comments upon its beauty.

However, you're right that it's a wolf.  In chapter nine of _Queen of
Sorcery_, Chamdar uses his "possesion" of Garion's mind to try to make
him leave the group.  To break the tie, both Polgara and Belgarath use
their amulets to contact Aldur.  When Belgarath pulls out his amulet,
Eddings describes it as "the figure of a standing wolf so lifelike that
it looked almost ready to lope away."

The real question is what is on Garion's amulet.  Does Eddings ever
actually say that it is the Orb?  Perhaps toward the end of _The
Malloreon_, which I am just now rereading.  In _The Belgariad_ it is
constantly referred to as a "strange design," or some similar nodescript
phrase, and I don't recall it ever being explained.  In fact, having
read the books more times than I care to count, I've been left with the
impression that it is an abstract design of some sort (perhaps
incorporating an Orb motif) that Eddings didn't even *want* to try to
describe.  Have I missed an explicit description somewhere?

>>2) Why is Durnik not re-named Beldurnik after he becomes recognised as a
>>disciple of Aldur?

Is Durnik ever actually called a disciple of Aldur?  Again, maybe it's
toward the end of _The Malloreon_.  But at least up through the halfway
point in _Sorceress of Darshiva_ he isn't.

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|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: D.G.Mcreavy@newcastle.ac.uk (D.G. Mcreavy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: COVINGTON CROSS
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:47:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


Chris Casey asks: what is historically inaccurate about COVINGTON CROSS?
Others who have criticised the program may have had specific details in
mind; possible sources of error are: the medieval wool trade, details of
armour, standards of behaviour expected of neighbours, to name but 
three.

My own objection is to a far grosser error which has been pointed out in
the article which started this correspondence: the giving of  modern
attitudes and mentality to supposedly medieval characters. I read a lot 
of historical fiction and fantasy, which is why I subscribe to this
newsgroup, and I find that this is the commonest error which authors 
make. It is fair to remark that it is also one of the hardest to avoid.
It takes exceptional  powers of imagination to create an alien mentality
and to develop it consistently.

The makers of COVINGTON CROSS, I suggest, did not even make the effort
and this gross anachronism contributed hugely to the unintentional
humour of the program.

Dominic McReavy.

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From: wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu (William "Wes" Johnson)
Subject: Re: Questions
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 03:01:14 GMT


Eddings did not state what sex Polgara's twins were.  I know, because that
was one of the little questions I had when I read Seeress of Kell.

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From: Robert.Turner@brunel.ac.uk (Robert Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Sorcery
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:18:38 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

S961246@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU writes:=
% Case in point: when Zandramas set the confusion spell on the Mrin Codex which
%functioned until broken.

Torak

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From: rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku)
Subject: Phule
Originator: rm104449@ee.tut.fi
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, FINLAND
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 15:14:17 GMT



How many Phule's company books there is? I've read the first (didn't like it
that much) but I laughed once so maybe I should give it another chance.

Are the English editions with Josh Kirby covers? I've got the American 
editions (ACE) end they certainly don't.



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From: Elizabeth.Mccoy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Elizabeth Mccoy)
Subject: Re: Hey all
Organization: no
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:45:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.111426.15035@cc.tut.fi> rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug24.221911.25362@samba.oit.unc.edu> Josh.Adams@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Josh Adams) writes:
>
>I deleted what you wrote, because I'm interested in your .sig. I've seen if
>not exactly, at least almost identical before (not yours). So do you all have
>the same kind of .sig in there (U of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) or is it
>just a coincidence?
>
>>--
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>>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>>           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
>

It's the posting format that this place uses. (And the one peeve I have
with them....) The .sig is not alterable, as far as I know. 

OTOH, they're a very nice place that gets *all* the groups (as far as I
know), and lets people telnet in and read news. They should be the ones
trying to hit me up for money when I graduate, not UNH. The news-feed
at UNH gets about 3 alt groups, and those are: Alt.aquaria,
alt.folklore.computers, and one other which I have forgotten. Just
forget alt.callahans, or alt.fan.* >sigh<
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Who's Asprin?????
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:50:37 GMT

Who the hell is this Asprin guy anyway?



			---G.H.---
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
Subject: Asprin book about corporate takeovers?
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:39:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center


     I was in a bookstore the other day when I glanced briefly at a book
by R.A. I hadn't seen before... The premise seemed to be that in the
future all of the fighting in the world would be done by corporate types
or something.  As much as I love the Myth series (and tolerate the Phule
series) I had to pass, at least for now.  It just looks too cheesy.  Has
anyone read it or even know what I'm talking about?


Brett
Newsgroups: alt.fan.asprin
From: wre0498@zeus.tamu.edu (ERHART, WESLEY RONALD)
Subject: Re: Anyone read The Cold Cash War?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:32:00 GMT

In article <78470@ut-emx.uucp>, darenp@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daren Patel) writes...
> 
>	Anyone picked up a copy of Aspirin's latest book "The Cold Cash War"?
>I thought it was a little episodic, but then I've already been spoiled on 
>the Myth series.
> 
>        Daren Patel  [^_^]
> 
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Daren Patel -- darenp@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu -- The University of Texas at Austin
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I read it.  I thought it was awful.


      wes.
      erhart@eemips.tamu.edu

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From: kludge@hardy.u.washington.edu (MoonMan)
Subject: Re: Anyone read The Cold Cash War?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:41:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.074741.28273@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen) writes:
>
>In a previous article, darenp@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daren Patel) says:
>
>>
>>	Anyone picked up a copy of Aspirin's latest book "The Cold Cash War"?
>>I thought it was a little episodic, but then I've already been spoiled on 
>>the Myth series.
>>
>The Cold Cash War was one of the first books he wrote...has it been
>re-released?

  It was the *first* book he wrote - and yes, it has been re-released...

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From: Elizabeth.Mccoy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Elizabeth Mccoy)
Subject: Re: Yikes
Organization: no.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:39:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.115823.18003@cc.tut.fi> rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku) writes:
>
>In article <174mebINNqkg@agate.berkeley.edu> joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:
>>Boy, what a dead group!  I guess it'll liven up whenever he
>>gets his butt in gear and cranks out his next book...
[snip!]
>>-Jon Kung, haven't read a MYTH book in a LONG time...
>
>Me too...but I'm waiting for a new one. Ever tried Terry Pratchett?

Who is not only funny, but *also* has an alt.fan group, and is even
net-abled! (And is a good writer of posts, as well as books, IMHO.)

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