HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,sci.skeptic,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Marilyn Monroe
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:15:57 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

From article <1992Aug19.051348.8800@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, by dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott):
> 
> I was just wondering if there is any news regarding public response
> to the book & Bill Bixby documentary called the "Marilyn Files."
> 
> The CIA and RFK were implicated in a cover up of her death/murder.
> 
> 
> What is the likelyhood that a body exhumation or a Grand Jury hearing
> will take place??

Little and none and little just caught the last train for the
coast.

After 30 years, what could be determined and would there be much
left of the body besides the hair and skeleton?
-- 
"Land of song, said the warrior bard,           Jim Heath
Though all the world betrays thee.
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
One faithful harp will praise thee."         (Thomas Moore)
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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Killing bers with handguns  (Was:  Re:  A random thought)
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:20:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
>> bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:
>}  Do you know that many more deer die of starvation in winter than
>}  fall prey to hunters in many states?  
>Deer survived as a species for tens of thousands of years before we began
>hunting them "for their own good." ...  The starvation is at least
>partially due to hunters having wiped out all the natural predators.

Not just hunters actually.  As people take more space with cities, the
farmers, ranchers, *and* hunters removed predators.  However, the people
also reduced the amount of area that deer can graze in, reducing the
amount of food available.  It is now possible (and in some areas common)
for the herds to expand more than there is food for.  As no (or few) natural
predators exist in some areas, man usually steps in to act in that role.

>Famine and predators take the weakest, ultimately strengthening the herd
>and the species.  Hunters take the best and strongest (trophies, more
>meat), weakening the herd and the species.

This may seem so, but for the hunters I know (yes, I know that is a
small group) the idea is to take the oldest animal, not the strongest
(hard to tell strength through a gun sight, but points on antlers 
is easy), hence I contend that you may be in err.

Mark Runyan
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:15:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Steve.Rose@f601.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose) writes:


> GS> I am sitting here writing this, as my dad sleeps in the room next to
> GS> me...Apparently, the aliens and the CIA placed something inside to
> GS> monitor him, as I knew from previous experience with the kinds of things
> GS> I hae gone through, because every few minutes he lets out a agonizing
> GS> series of moans that makes my blood curl and my hate grow.

>The only thing he is moaning from are the mounting hospital bills from your
>electric shock therapy sessions.  I told you not to let that insurance policy
>laps!  Now take your lithium...have a cookie...and watch 'Comedy Central'.

Rose, you really should learn how to spell...May I suggest some college
English, if you're up to it...
-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Date: 16 Aug 92  07:45:51 EST

Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Reply-To: mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu

Gary - 

Why don't you just move to Fiji, or some remote place?  Blow off
everyone and everything and get out.  I've heard that it's nice
there, and it sure sounds like you need a change of scenery.

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: 02/INVASION!!!
Date: 16 Aug 92  05:41:11 EST

and just stood there for a second or two...Then, suddenly, something hit
Dawn from the front and she collapsed in a heap on the floor...I jumped
back about 4 feet through the air, to say the least...

A few days after this, Dawn was sitting in the day room with me and a
number of other people, including one of those two guys...Suddenly, she
looked at the guy and he looked at her intensely...She and this other guy
got up at the same moment, and while I was watching them, and noone else
was, they moved together and jumped backwards and disappeared...Just
disappeared into thin air...I know, because I didn't believe it, and ran
around the corner to see if they had gone around that...They were GONE!! 
Suddenly, the fire alarms went off, and the nurses ran up and forced me
back into the day room...They kept the other people in there as well, all
the time looking around and behind themselves...After a few minutes, I
snuck out of the room and walked up to the nurses station...One of the
nurses exclaimed, "Where's OUR Max?!"...My fathers name...I repeated her
words in my mind, and she touched her nose with her index finger in a
sudden move, which is a silent codeword they use for "Yes"...After a few
moments my fake dad came through the doors and the alarms stopped...

I was released from there at the end of the two weeks, and shipped right
out on the next plane back to Florida, a day too late to register for my
classes at FSU...I have the fake file now...One of the doctors who
supposedly saw me, a Dr. Donald Wallens, was one of the shrinks I saw
after the TV incident, although I didn't know it at the time...

Another time when I was dragged back to LA, I was driven into the
underground parking structure at the Emergency Room at UCLA by my clone
parents...A security guard started walking towards the car, and I started
to open the door so as to run away...My fake dad screamed at me, "No, Son,
don't open that door...I'm begging you!"...It was this that made me
suspect that my real parents were possibly in some other parallel
dimension...I jumped out of the car, but the security guard came running
up and grabbed me...He lifted me off my feet and carried me fifty yards
though the air into the Emergency Room and threw me into one of the empty
rooms...My fake parents signed me into the mental hospital, and there I
was again...After that, I started plotting my revenge...

I hope this has "enlightened" you...

-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:10119 alt.conspiracy.jfk:3049 sci.skeptic:14596 misc.legal:16136
From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,sci.skeptic,misc.legal
Subject: Marilyn Monroe
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:13:48 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide


I was just wondering if there is any news regarding public response
to the book & Bill Bixby documentary called the "Marilyn Files."

The CIA and RFK were implicated in a cover up of her death/murder.


What is the likelyhood that a body exhumation or a Grand Jury hearing
will take place??
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From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Edited Repost of John Dinardo's Inslaw/Casolaro series (1 of 5)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 08:59:12 GMT


EDITORIAL NOTE - This file contains material originally posted to Usenet
by John DiNardo in 14 installments. To save space, only the first of the 14
usenet headers has been included. In addition, John's opening and closing 
comments supporting station WBAI and urging concerned citizens to pass 
along this information are in fact composites of John's opening and 
closing remarks in various of the 14 collected posts. Note although the
closing portion of the transcript concludes with (to be continued) John
has not as yet posted further portions of this interview, although he 
has posted other transcripts relating to the Casolaro case which I will
try to collect in another file or files.
                                      -Steve Crocker
                                        12/25/91

Article 4777 of alt.conspiracy:
>Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,misc.legal,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,
alt.activism
From: David.Condon@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Condon)
Subject: White House whistle-blower
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:41:53 GMT

Does anybody have any ideas as to who the unnamed "high White House official"
was who tipped off the New York Times about Bush's plans for Iraq?
___

"Even machines as simple as thermostats can be said to have beliefs."
"What beliefs does your thermostat have?"
"My thermostat has three beliefs: it's too hot in here, it's too cold in 
here, and it's just right in here." 
                          -- John McCarthy in conversation with John Searle.
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: Charles.Packer@iphase.UUCP (Charles Packer)
Sender: FredGate@iphase.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Candidates and their women
Date: 16 Aug 92  11:16:00 EST

Organization: Dept. of Independence

In article <1992Aug15.094733.597@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes...
>their picadillos but seems to just now be coming out of its strait
>jacket with respect to GHWB?


Because it's right before the Republican Convention, which is being
touted as a promotion of Family Values. For those who favor hitting
Bush on this issue, the timing couldn't be better.


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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
From: gross@eric10.rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross)
Subject: Re: Candidates and their women
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:43:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Aug15.014816.26727@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM (QUOTE OF THE YEAR) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.114954.16393@dg-rtp.dg.com>, grossg@patriot.rtp.dg.com (Gross writes...
>>In article <STEINMAN.92Aug4084513@hawk.is.morgan.com> steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman) writes:
>>>I just heard a report this morning that Bush soundly rebuked his
>>>campaign manager for writing a press release that made references to
>>>Clinton's "bimbos". Also, my spouse just returned from UK, where she
>>>said the press is full of stories about Bush's womanizing in the past.
>>>
>>Actually, there is no accounting for the British tabloid press.  Those
>>people thrive on innuendo and rumor.
>> 
>I was wondering, just what does this have to do with whether a canidate
>would make a good president or not? This isn't sarcastic, or a jab. Just
>an honest question. Personally, I would rather a president get his "rocks
>off" over a woman than over the power of his position (no pun intended).

Well, I may be old fashioned, and I know I am not "PC."  I was raised to
believe that a man's word (or a woman's word) was his bond.  If you
vowed any vows, you kept them.  My grandfather, who was Seneca and
raised me, taught me a lot of things similar to this.  They have done
alright by me over the years.

So, I judge a man or woman running for political office by those
standards.  Funny how the whiteman always tries to worm out from under
the weight of his own words.  Wobeneho!

Gene 
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: White House whistle-blower
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:39:43 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

David.Condon@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Condon) writes:
>Does anybody have any ideas as to who the unnamed "high White House official"
>was who tipped off the New York Times about Bush's plans for Iraq?

Answer 1: if we found out, he/she would be in deep trouble or off being
ambassador to Antarctica.

Answer 2: Why? So we could have someone to bring forward if Bush gets
nominated to the Supreme Court? << However unlikely that might be though
President Taft became a Justice post-term. >>
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck		DUKE BLUE DEVILS: 1992 ACC CHAMPIONS!
Biomedical Engineer 1993	1992 EAST REGIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Duke University, Durham, NC	AND 1992 NCAA NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!
August 31, 1992 - May 16, 1993	Duke football? What's that?
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.guns
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Killing bers with handguns  (Was:  Re:  A random thought)
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:44:11 GMT

All this discussion about techniques for killing animals reminds
me of George Orwell's story, "Shooting an Elephant". A masterpiece
which conveys very well the horror and cruelty of hunting.

-Danny Keren.
From: Robert.Daniels@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert Daniels)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Congressional e-mail addresses?
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:54:15 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

1. Apologies to all who feel this should be in some other newsgroup.

2. Do Senators and Representatives have e-mail addresses?  Does anyone
   have a list of such?


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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,sci.skeptic,misc.legal
From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Marilyn Monroe
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:41:24 GMT

Ok,  this is an interesting subject.   Last week's PEOPLE magazine did
a re-cap of the questions surrounding Marilyn's death and, essentially
accussed RFK of her murder.  They had photographic evidence of private
encounters with both  RFK and  JFK shortly before her death,  and they
implied that  Robert's motivation  was Marilyn's threat to "go public"
with her affair with JFK  which JFK had stopped.  They also claim that
she aborted either JFK's or RFK's baby during this time.   The methods
they accused the Kennedys of using  to cover up this  "embarassment to
the administration"  will sound  very familiar  to the readers of this
newsgroup:  suppression of evidence, falsification of records, tamper-
ing with the scene of a crime, and murder. They briefly mentioned that
there are schools of thought that Marilyn  was murdered  either by the
Cubans or by organized crime to "get at" JFK.  They closed with an al-
ledged quote from Marilyn's ex-husband Joe DiMaggio who, upon oversee-
ing her funeral,  stated that he "didn't want to see any of those damn
Kennedys" at the service. What's the opinion of the newsgroup concern-
ing this issue?  Is this a Red Herring?   A smear job on the Kennedys?
Or, does this actually fit in somewhere with the JFK murder?
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From: jac54@cas.org
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: aids started by cia?
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:38:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: cas.1992Aug19.103849.11558
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio

In article <1992Aug18.052013.27077@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott) writes:
>djsrmi@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (John Sadowsky x6211) writes:
>:       They just want you to think that it is caused by a virus!
>:                             ^^^^^
>
>what the hell does that mean? Or is it just paranoia?
>
>Of course it's caused by viri. Don't insult the memory those who have died from
>this terrible disease by bringing down to the level of half-assed
>armchair revolution. And check your facts before engaging your keyboard.


	To add insult to injury, there is evidence that the "invented
	by the CIA" story was first circulated by the KGB.  The book
	"Instructions from the Centre" by the former KGB agent Oleg
	Gordievsky (and Christopher Andrew) discusses this story as
	part of their disinformation campaign (they first ran this
	one in 1983).  If you want to talk about disdain for
	suffering and ugly cynicism this takes the biscuit.

	Alec Chambers
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,sci.skeptic,misc.headlines,talk.politics.guns
From: kossack@owlnet.rice.edu (Jordan Marc Kossack)
Subject: Knife Control?  (was Re: UFO "October Surprise" and USA TAKEOVER?!
Followup-To: talk.politics.guns
Reply-To: kossack@qvi.com
Organization: A Glorified, Overheated Swamp
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:27:23 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Aug12155011@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
|> The fact that yearly much more people in the United States get killed by
|> guns than in Europe of course has nothing to do with gun control, right ?

	Right.  Similarly, the fact that the United States has more   
   murders with knives than does Finland has nothing to do with the 
   knife-control laws in these countries.  Unless Finland has some 
   sort of steak knife ban that I'm unaware of.  :-) 

	OBTW, I thought the Balkans were part of Europe  . . .    


-- 
 Jordan M Kossack  |  
 kossack@rice.edu  |  "That's not a crime--crimes have victims."   
  +1 713 240 2073  |     -- rsl@well.sf.ca.us (Roy Stuart Levin)     
  
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:37:53 GMT
Subject: Re: INSLAW (Very strange case)
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy

In alt.conspiracy, hhll@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas) writes:

> Two nights ago on CNN there was a report of one of the strangest cases I'd
> ever heard in the mainstream media. ... INSLAW...
> A special investigation determined that Attorneys
> General Meese and Thornburgh may have been guilty of obstruction of
> justice in connection with this case. The report also pointed to the
> involvement of the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies and the
> mysterious death of a reporter trying to look into the case.
 
> What is this? If anyone can provide details I'd be grateful.
 
The Spotlight covered this in detail a long time ago. The Spotlight is 
published by Liberty Lobby out of Washington D.C.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.guns
From: art@world.std.com (Al Thompson)
Subject: Re: Killing bers with handguns  (Was:  Re:  A random thought)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<55wmyyd.payner@netcom.com> <veal.184@utkux1.utk.edu>
	<ART.92Aug10152513@world.std.com> <BD.92Aug11090700@fluent.UUCP>
	<ART.92Aug11130024@world.std.com> <BD.92Aug12095025@fluent.UUCP>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:05:22 GMT

In article <BD.92Aug12095025@fluent.UUCP> bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:

   in article <ART.92Aug11130024@world.std.com>art@world.std.com (Al Thompson) writes:

   > In article <BD.92Aug11090700@fluent.UUCP> bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
   >
   >   article <ART.92Aug10152513@world.std.com> art@world.std.com (Al Thompson) says:
   >
   >   >He snuck up on a sleeping Kodiak
   >   >bear (full grown Kodiak bears can run nine feet tall).  From a distance
   >   >of about three feet he shot that bear right in the neck.
   >
   >   Shooting a sleeping bear at three feet.  What a sport!
   >
   >When you consider he did with a bow and arrow yes.  Don't forget,
   >sleeping animals wake up very easily.  No, sneaking up on a full grown
   >bear, of any kind, takes enormous courage or foolhardiness depending on
   >your outlook (I personally think it foolhardy).

   I didn't know that "sport" was defined as something that took "enormous 
   courage or foolhardiness".

   I'll grant that he had one of those, but shooting a sleeping bear at three 
   feet is not what I consider a sport, any more than beating up drunks in 
   alleys qualifies as a sport.

   I'm not against hunting in general (although it is not something I partake 
   in), but I just don't see anything sporting in shooting a sleeping animal 
   at close range.  Sorry.

I'm almost prepared to agree with you, but not quite.  When you shoot a
bear with an arrow you had better put that shot in exactly the right
place.  If you miss one of the major arteries, in this case the carotid,
you have a wounded bear.  Now this wounded bear is about nine feet tall,
weighs over a thousand pounds and has claws (five to six inches long on
Kodiak bears) and teeth that won't quit.  So, you have to get pretty
close to get in a shot that will count.  If you miss you are a lot of
trouble quick.  It's that element of danger that makes this a more or
less sporting proposition.  If the hunter puts himself in extreme danger
and the animal has a way of getting away or retaliating my opinion of the
"sprotingness" of the event goes up.  Clearly this guy was in a lot of
danger, especially of the bear had gotten up before the shot was fired or
if it had missed its mark.  As it was the bear didn't die right away and
nearly did get the hunter.

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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,sci.skeptic,misc.headlines,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.guns,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: A racist argument against handgun control legislation.
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:26:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug14.032646.11425
Followup-To: alt.activism,sci.skeptic,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.guns
Organization: Western Washington University

lindq@etek.chalmers.se (Johan Lindqvist) writes:

>born that way". So what I meant was this:
>A person isn't a criminal until he commits a crime. If he doesn't get an oppurtunity, he probably can't be a criminal. Oppurtunity is ONE of the
>neccesary things when turning criminal, not the only.
>Life isn't black or white.

     A criminal personality is the main factor.  I.E. do you feel that 
other people exist for you to take what you want from,   rather than beings 
existing for their own sake that you need to trade and bargian with?
   
     If you feel the former, then you will tend to suck off, steal from, 
kill, and hurt those around you until the day you die. 

Jim Del Vecchio
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