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From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: small nipple...placement o' pierce?
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:54:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.031024.13837@reed.edu> acase@reed.edu (Andrew Case) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.204851.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>>Has anyone else had their nipples pierced outside of the nipple area because
>>they have small nipples?  
>Yes.

And another "yes." In general, it appears to be accepted practice to pierce
more "behind" the nipple than either at the base of it or through it. This
is what happened to me, since I had almost nonexistant nipples, and also to
a lesser extent to my SO, and her nipples are fairly substantial.

>I have fairly small nipples. When I got mine pierced, the entry and exit
>holes were placed well into the Aureola (sp?) I am satisfied with the
>results, thought I could be happier. Incidentaly, my pierced nipple has
>enlarged somewhat since I got it perforated. 

Same here (although I'm happy as a peach with mine). The nipple/aureola has
enlarged considerably, in a very interesting (and delightful) way. It now
appears that I have a fairly large nipple (about the size of a small female
nipple), with the ring right through the middle of it. Actually, it only
looks this way if I pull and stretch it out. But it really has given me a
whole lot of new surface area to play with! :-)

>On an unrelated note - I have found that the magnitude of sensation
>available from my pierced nipple has not changed much (if anything, it has 
>decreased). However, the texture of sensation is quite different (and
>most pleasant :-)). Anyone else notice something similar?

For me, both the quantity and the quality of the sensation changed. I used
to only get sensation exactly on my nipple, which is a pretty tiny area of
tissue. Now I get sensation on the entire area around the ring (that that
"appears" to be the nipple) as if it were the nipple itself. It's like my
nipple has expanded. Furthermore, the sensations are more intense than they
used to be. I've always gotten (limited) pleasure from my nipples, but now
it seems like there's a direct line between them and my genitals! Not that
I'm complaining! :-)

On another subject, I love to play with my rings, and stretch them,
sometimes to the point of pain. But I'm really reluctant to go *too* far, as
I'd rather prefer the ring to remain firmly embedded in my skin. Does
anyone know how much force can be applied to 3.5 month old 14ga pierces?
I'm going to stretch them to at least 12ga eventually, but that's on hold
until after I get my PA (yay!).

Toodles... --Erik

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From: enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer)
Subject: Paint it Black - how fast?
Reply-To: enf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:53:58 GMT

I've never had a tattoo, so while I'm familiar with the process on a mental
level, I really have no clue about most of the actual process.  One thing
I'm especially curious about is this: which is it, the outlining or the
shading, that takes up most of the time?  Reading tattoo magazines, I see
what seem to me hugely differing statements about how long it takes to cover
what looks like the same amount of skin, and the best theory I can come
up with to explain why is that complex designs must take much longer to
outline and fill in than simpler, monochrome designs, even if the black
designs cover more skin.

Is this anywhere close to right?  And if so, could someone who knows please
give me some sort of estimate at what rate skin can be inked (square inches
per hour or some such unit) in the shading process for an all-black tattoo?

Thanks very much,
Eric Fischer
(enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu)


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From: duhon@netcom.com (Joey Duhon)
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:10:59 GMT

>  I've read this sort of crap even in magazines I really like, and they
>keep using phrases that make you think that a peircing is just like 
>any other fad (cabbage patch dolls, Dr. Martins, etc...).  It's not.
>It's not your white-bread pinkboy fad.  You stick a needle through
>your skin (or in it with ink for a tat) and put a ring in the hole.

i think you're being too extreme. if we don't care what "they" have to
say about primitivism, why do "we" talk about this all the time.

and what's wrong with being "trendy?"
kinda sounds like: "WE are getting in touch with our primal selves; that
makes us feel good"; THEY are saying "we like showing our tribalism
by acting in ways that reflect our belonging to a group/crowd" -- i don't
see how this is wrong. each person's attempt to find happiness is valid,
as long as they don't step on someone else's.

joey
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:46:37 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428) writes:

> > certain group.  I hear more and more about bodypiercing in the media
> > like I've heard about goldfish swallowing contests in the 50's.
> > They (the media) make it out to be something shallow, when (as anyone
> > who's had a piercing can attest) a bodypiercing/tattoo can be a 
> > really memorable experience with lots of emotion and feeling wrapped up
> > in it.
> 
> I had the same feeling about this and brought it up to Mark Seitchik
> during a Gauntlet NYC visit awhile ago.  His thought was that if people
> want to get into it as a trend, then fine, he can use the business and
> he doesn't care to judge if someone is being trendy or not.
> 
> He also pointed out that if it's indeed a trend, then it will pass soon
> enough and the serious who remain can continue pursuing it as they had
> before.  Having it go through a trendy phase does not in any way diminish
> the meaning and value of it to those who truly care.

... Any anybody who's going to get a body piercing must be at least
halfway serious about it. To get a pet rock, all you had to do was plunk
down $5 in the local gift store. Putting a sharp needle through both yur
nipples is somewhat more "real", at least in my experience! :)
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: small nipple...placement o' pierce?
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:48:51 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
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Has anyone else had their nipples pierced outside of the nipple area because
they have small nipples?  Let me clarify.  When I got my left nipple pierced
I expected to end up with the entry and exit holes of the jewelry to be right
at the base of my nipple (that is, from the tip of my nipple down in the 
direction of my back)  Is anyone understanding what I'm trying to say?  Anyway,
I ended up with the holes being on the bigger flesh of my nipple (what is that
called?).  I love my pierce but it's not exactly the way I had seen it in
pictures and on a friend of mine.  Is this proper placement.  I did have a 
rather small nipple before the piercing.  Any input would be muchly
appreciated.

Beth ;>
From: Barry.Kapke@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Barry Kapke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: SF tatoos
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:35:30 GMT

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* Forwarded by Barry Kapke (8:914/133)
=============================================================================

thought you might want to add these names to the list in the tattoo file:

Shop: Erno Tattoo  252 Fillmore, SF. CA  94117  (415)861-9206
      Walk-ins welcome, but appointments are a *good* idea.

Artists: *Nalla  (specializes in blackwork and celtic designs,
         excellent artist.  Also knowledgable about piercings.)
         *Patrick  (good at black & celtic, but specializes in high
         fantasy art.  Excellent dragons, fairies, etc.  Also excells
         at sci-fi art).
         *Jaime Trujillo (more traditional stuff.  Good artist).


The shop was clean, businesslike.  They use an autoclave, and maintain
good conditions.  Hours are from noon til 9, plus appts.  If I left
anythig out, please let me know.  I wanted to go to Tattoo City, but
couldn't get in--I'm dying to try Eddie Deutsch's work--but I heartily
recommend these guys.  Nalla did my partner and I; Patrick did a
couple of friends we went with.  I watched Jaime Trujillo work,
though; he has the ease and skill of a seasoned professional.  All of
our designs were custom, and Patrick and Nalla did a great job at
drawing what we wanted from stick pictures and an explanation.  Thanks
again, and happy tats to you!

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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:24:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Branding...
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

In article <C0ny1K.3yB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thebo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael Thebo) writes:
|
|I'm also looking for a special type of nose stud I heard about in Modern
|Primatives, it is just long enough to go through the nostral and has a circular
|metal clip that fastens on the inside... no one I've talked too has even heard
|of these, not even the wonderful people at Gauntlet.
|
|              -Thebes

Are you shooore you're not thinking of a "nose screw"?  I just got one of
these for my sister at Body Manipulations on Fillmore St. in SF.  (of course
Purdue is in Ohio or someplace, right?) This thingie is one piece of metal,
with no backing.  Starting from the bead on the outside, the jewelry goes
through the nose and then circles around in a U shape, flush with the inside
of the nose.  (kind of like a coiled snake that's sticking its head up I
guess.)

ben
--

"Can't we all just get along?"
From: Barry.Kapke@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Barry Kapke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Bajoran noses
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:04:50 GMT

Hello All!

Does anyone besides me find Bajoran noses incredibly sexy? Both Ensign Ro (from STTNG) and First Officer Kira Nerys (from DS9) certainly captivate my aesthetic sense. Ancient Mayans cultivated an aesthetic modification of the nose/ forehead. I wonder if it would require much to sculpt a Bajoran nose. ;)

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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:48:48 GMT

manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz) writes:
>clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>>Mine is 1/2" so it's pretty hard to get it caught on anything in bed.
>>A larger ring could definitely be a problem.
>
>Nonsense.  Mine is 1.5" and I've never had a problem.  I'm not a
>motionless sleeper either.  

Brett, you size queen, we're talking about nipple rings!  ;-)

I guess wearing a ring that large could be handy--it's always
nice to have a spare napkin ring hanging around.  ;-)

So, what sizes are popular out there in net.land?

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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: PA locks, etc.
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:31:02 GMT

anon.23@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>A recent poster described the use of a lock through his PA.

That might have been me.  :-)  I did it for last year's Folsom
Street Fair in San Francisco.  After walking around all day with
it banging against my leg then being pulled around by it all
evening at the Eagle, I was rather sore!

>I have been pondering a number of piercing options with an eye toward
>their use as a "chastity implement".

Gauntlet sells literature and hardware of this nature.

>Previous daydreams of mine have included multiple (5?) dydoes with a
>lock through them, or perhaps actually locking a PA hole to a guiche hole.

Or a foreskin/PA to a navel piercing.

>Has anyone toyed with this type of use of their perfs?

I've attached a chain from my PA to my belt loop and let the
chain hang out between the buttons in my 501s.  This can be
dangerous in a public environment, though.  The first time I did
it, someone thought it was attached to a cockring and gave a pretty
good pull before I introduced him to some serious pain of his own.  :-)

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From: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428)
Subject: Re: Piercing being "trendy"...
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:19:58 GMT

Christian G. Smith:

> was done completely for my own pleasure...+NOT+ to "fit in" with a 
> certain group.  I hear more and more about bodypiercing in the media
> like I've heard about goldfish swallowing contests in the 50's.
> They (the media) make it out to be something shallow, when (as anyone
> who's had a piercing can attest) a bodypiercing/tattoo can be a 
> really memorable experience with lots of emotion and feeling wrapped up
> in it.

I had the same feeling about this and brought it up to Mark Seitchik
during a Gauntlet NYC visit awhile ago.  His thought was that if people
want to get into it as a trend, then fine, he can use the business and
he doesn't care to judge if someone is being trendy or not.

He also pointed out that if it's indeed a trend, then it will pass soon
enough and the serious who remain can continue pursuing it as they had
before.  Having it go through a trendy phase does not in any way diminish
the meaning and value of it to those who truly care.

Of course, even if the "trend" does pass I expect there will be many more
people who are still interested in body art than there are people who
still like to swallow goldfish.  :)   Rituals that have survived as long
as these will be around a lot longer than any "trend."

Rob

-- 

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Mat. Sci. Center Computing, Cornell University
rob@msc.cornell.edu - rob@crnlmsc2.bitnet
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: piercing in the greater northwest.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:21:15 GMT

redman@selway.umt.edu (Punya J C M Poesthe'umouruss-Sujjestchun) writes:

>Like the sub line says i'm looking for any information on piercing parlors
>and or tatoo shops that have piercers in or around spokane, seattle, 
>or anywhere in washington for that matter, and idaho and montana and 
>wyoming (as a last resort, rather go to seattle or spokane or portland,
>ore.).  i would need addresses and names and if possible prices for the jewel-
>ry and the pierces.  the pierces that i want to know about are nostril, eye
>brow, and tongue.

Hmm, Mack's Leathers in Vancouver, very good peircer there by the name of
Paul.  Address: right downtown, on Granville, about four or five blocks
south of Robson.  Can't get you more info now I'm afraid, but others here
may be able to get it if you need it.

-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:38:49 EST
From: <GMG7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: piercings and intercourse

I've been thinking about a genital pierce and about trying to talk my SO into
one also.  Before I do I was wondering what kind of sensual results to expect
from a pierce in myself/SO and what he could expect to get out of a pierce.

Any information you can provide will help in a decision.

Thanks,
--Gina
From: naf@ox.ac.uk (Neil Forrester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: good news and bad news...help!
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:43:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Experimental Psychology, Oxford University
Originator: naf@dragon.psych


>> I love it and think it's absolutely beautiful.  However, I've been having
>> graphic nightmares of my rig getting ripped out or sawing itself out of 
>> my nipple.  Has anyone else experienced this with a piercing?  I think it's
>> because I have this new thing hanging off a sensitive part of my body.

>Normal instinct, but doon't worry, you'll be fine. I simply take the
>precaution of wearing a shirt when I'm going to lift something that
>might get caught on 'em. (Or, I take them out, since I've had them for
>several years.)


As the "Home piercer" I'd like to add my 4 penneth.  I found that a little bit of
sticking plaster on the bottom of the ring itself (i.e. sticking it to the chest)
worked wonders for stopping the thing moving around too much in those sensitive 
first few weeks ....

N.
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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: tat cure!
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 03:03:45 GMT

In article <1570@blue.cis.pitt.edu> jenk@cislabs.pitt.edu (Jennifer A Kormuth) writes:
>hi all, for my latest tat I discovered a lotion which healed me up in half the
>time it normally took me to finish peeling, etc. the lotion is called
>Eucerin dry skin creme and is about the consistency of crisco. it's not
>greasy and is non-comedogenic. it can be purchased in a tube or tub container
>for under $10. It's worth looking into for care of a tat after the first or 
>second day.

When I was 
told by my doctor to use Eucerin for a weird patch of dry skin I had
about 12 years ago, he assured me it was the greasiest lotion on the
market. My mom has used it ever since. It's great stuff.

>jen

Good idea.

TIm

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From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Bill The Cat is PEIRCED!
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:40:07 GMT

   In case anyone else missed it, in the latest episode of Bloom
Count... er, that is, Outland, Bill The Cat is sporting a fine and
dandy ring in his belly button.  Of course, there's a reason for
this... Berke Breathed uses the ring as proof of being a "vegisexual,"
which, he says, President Clinton plans to provide protection from
discrimination for.

      Elf !!!
--
elf@halcyon.com  (Elf Sternberg)

Then, I was inspired.               God, thy will is hard
Now, I'm sad and tired.             But you hold every card.
Listen, surely I've exceeded        I will drink your cup of poison.
Expectations.                       Nail me to your cross and break me.
Tried for three years,              Bleed me, beat me.
Seems like thirty.                  Kill me.
Could you ask as much               Take me now.
From any other man?                 Before I change my mind.
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: ampallang question...
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:28:31 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <JET.93Jan12153848@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>What's worse, is I suspect that it's growing out.  (Either that, or my
>penis shrank when I left Texas.)

I thought "everything's bigger in Texas," dude...

(A trick of mine when I lived in Dallas proudly announced this as I prepared
to play "swallow-the-salami"; I responded, "yeah, and softer, too"...)
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Subject: Wolf Tattoos
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> not sure what type to get? Where to get it? and if it's worth
-> getting? The what will most probably be solved by my wallet..

 Tattoos are permanent.

 Getting a $75 tattoo because you can't afford a $200 tattoo is foolish.
Find what you want, find out how much it costs, and wait until you get
the money if you don't have that much.
From: jenk@cislabs.pitt.edu (Jennifer A Kormuth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: tat cure!
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:02:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

hi all, for my latest tat I discovered a lotion which healed me up in half the
time it normally took me to finish peeling, etc. the lotion is called
Eucerin dry skin creme and is about the consistency of crisco. it's not
greasy and is non-comedogenic. it can be purchased in a tube or tub container
for under $10. It's worth looking into for care of a tat after the first or 
second day.


jen
From: anon.23@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: PA locks, etc.
Date: 13 Jan 1993 05:04:54 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
Reply-To: anon.23@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: flash.pax.tpa.com.au


A recent poster described the use of a lock through his PA.  I have
been pondering a number of piercing options with an eye toward their use
as a "chastity implement".  I could imagine that a heavy enough lock would
render even masturbation unpleasant, although I am concerned since I have a
fairly high tolerance for pain.  Regarding hole size, I suspect that a
smaller gauge lock through the pierce itself could hold a heavier lock
(or other item) - "weakest link" points conceded.

Previous daydreams of mine have included multiple (5?) dydoes with a
lock through them, or perhaps actually locking a PA hole to a guiche hole.
(Apologies to those here who do not have a.s.b interests).

Has anyone toyed with this type of use of their perfs?  What about
metal tolerance issues (perhaps Gauntlet carries niobium hasp locks? ;-).

I would appreciate anyone manually cross-posting this to a.s.b, since my
site does not access that group :-<  -- followups to r.a.b please!
Thanks from an ex-lurker.

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