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From: ele9084@CDC835.CDC.POLIMI.IT
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?48
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:07:17 GMT
Distribution: fj

In sci.lang.japan you write:

>KANJI OF THE DAY # 48
> etc.

Very very interesting!
...but I lost last ..ehm.. 47 Kanji.
This is the first time I come here: is it possible
to have, by E-mail or FTP, previous postings?

Tnx very much in advance, if U can help me.
--
Gianmarco Armellin	ele9084@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it
Politecnico di Milano,
Italy.
From: sielmann@DKRZ-HAMBURG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing to Nihongo
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:37:29 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hello Joe !
Please try this to unsubscribe:
E-mail to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
SUBJEKT:Request
UNSUBSCRIBE NIHONGO "Yourname"

The most important is to sned your request to LISTSERV@...
instead of NIHONGO@...

Hope, I could help you !
Bye, Frank
From: ALAMK%WABASH.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Japanese lang software
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:15:51 GMT
Distribution: fj

Do you know of any good MS-DOS Japanese language software (wordprocessing).

I would appreciate your help and info.

alamk@wabash
From: mckay@HYPERCOMP.NS.CA
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  Flower help.
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:31:25 GMT
Distribution: fj

Kiku        Chrysanthemum as far as I am aware.

Alasdair McKay
From: 921KARLOWITZ@MERLIN.NLU.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Flower help.
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:27:18 GMT
Distribution: fj

Can anyone tell me the translation of the Japanese word Kiku.  Specifically,
I'm looking for the flower 'Kiku'.  I know other definitions exist.

						Arigatou gozaimasu.
						    Po-ru san  8)
From: ba05047@BINGSUNS.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: UEsama troubles
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:51:41 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <9210032317.AA21690@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>I have recently tried calling UEsama on Telnet 128.95.202.40; when
>I connect, I try the traditional login process (anonymous, then my ID),
>but it is not accepted.  What must I do to be UEsamaed?

Jim, I'm now sure what you're trying to do, but if you're trying to
use "anonymous ftp", first, you have to understand that not all sites
have that service.  Secondary, I'm not sure about this, but my guess
is that you can only connect to the ftp port using anonymous ftp.

I understand from your other post that you are trying to get an email
connection for a BBS in Ehime to the network.  If you want to get hold
of someone responsible at Ehime, why not sending a message to the
postmaster at Ehime University.  (BTW, from what I know, connecting to
the Japanese network is more difficult that just finding a "local
feed".  You have to join the JUNET society, get a domain name, maybe
required to pay some annual fee.  Also being that a BBS, it has to
join KDD's INetClub to use their mail gateway, and they have to pay
for this, etc.  There's a site in Japan that archives all these info
file but I cannot recall which.  It's something like ???.ad.jp.  Good
luck!)

--
Fumiaki Kamiya
ba05047@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
From: mckay@HYPERCOMP.NS.CA
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: CV's
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:31:05 GMT
Distribution: fj

Although I often now wish I had learned Japanese as a child rather than Latin,
it does seem to be neccessary to know some of that dead language to
understand even the most modern English.

I thought that everyone knew the term

		curriculum vitae  literally "a little run (through) of the life"

The diminutive  "ul-"  being the same as occurs in the presumably more widely
known word :
		caligula          "little boot"
- nickname of the imfamous Roman Emperor.

Perhaps we can re-direct further discussion on this matter to a more appropriate
discussion group on classical European Languages.


By the way :    the plural (as may arise in appending resumes to company
                proposals and the like) is :

		curricula vitarum

Alasdair McKay    ( a-ra-su-de-ru  ma-ka---i)
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?52
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:41:55 GMT
Distribution: fj

nezumi wa oishii desu ka???????

Don't tell me that Japanese in the 1930's were rat-eaters, unless they
called them something like "mountain-carp" (the way boar was "mountain-
whale")...

Of course, my father (who has never forgiven me for teaching Japanese
culture) fought on Guam in WWII,and HE associated Japanese and nesumi...

Jim Massey
Nova University
From: david_f@S3DUB.IE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: CV's
Date: 26 Sep 92 14:26:45 GMT
Distribution: fj

CV stands for Curriculum Vitae

Better known in the States as a resume

just a collection of info which would be of
interest to a prospective employer such
as education,jobs,experience etc


David F
From: AL282444%VMTECSLP.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Request
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:39:22 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi people!
 I'm looking for a Nagasaki node, if anyone knows one, please mail me...
  Hontou ni arigatou gozaimasu...
                        Sincerely....
                                  Alejandro K. Ueda I.
                                  al282444 at vmtecslp
From: anil@CS.TITECH.AC.jp
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Trick Question
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:50:26 GMT
Distribution: fj


     ____
    /    \
   / \    \
   l  \  / \
   l   \/   \
    \__/     \


Does anyone know what this character is?
THIS IS A TRICK QUESTION FOR FLUENT
JAPANESE SPEAKERS ONLY.
The rest can join in but might not
understand it well.

Answer given in the next e-mail message
(subject; Trick Answer
Anil
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Imabari connections
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:19:23 GMT
Distribution: fj

If this is out of line in this conference, I apologize.

I am looking for any online connections with Imabari in Ehime-ken,
Shikoku.  This includes internet, Compu- or NiftyServe, or a  local
BBS.  This city is presently in negotiations with Lakeland, FL, for
sister city connections, and we would like to connect electronically.

Doomo sumimasen for anyone's help

"/" /_, (Jim Massey, Nova University)
From: luke@NEWT.EE.BYU.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Flower help.
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:15:03 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <9210011924.AA25587@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>Can anyone tell me the translation of the Japanese word Kiku.  Specifically,
>I'm looking for the flower 'Kiku'.  I know other definitions exist.

chrysanthemum

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |
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From: sielmann@DKRZ-HAMBURG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: UEsama troubles
Date: 4 Oct 92 12:35:50 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi, James Massey .
Your trouble with UESAMA has just the simple reason that you cannot
telnet to it, but just can ftp to it !
I'm sure it will work then.
Hope, it helped you.
Bye,
Frank
From: POSTMASTER@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:52:55 GMT
Distribution: fj


    THE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION OF "HYUNDAI" WOULD BE :

    "H"  AS IN  'H'ARRY  ---+--> FIRST SYLLABLE
    "YU" AS IN  'YOU'NG     +
    "N"  AS IN  FU'N'    ---+
    "D"  AS IN  'D'AVID  ---+--> SECOND SYLLABLE
    "AI" AS IN  'A'CT    ---+

    ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION CASUALLY TO A KOREAN LIVING IN THE
 US, HE/SHE WOULD PROBABLY PRONOUNCE IT AS MOST AMERICANS DO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW
 "HYUNDAI" IS KNOWN IN THE US (WHAT A PITTY!).

    AND, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT BE DYING TO KNOW HOW "HYUNDAI" IS WRITTEN
IN KOREAN:

      :       :                     :        * '+' MEANS TO DRAW IN ONE
   -------    :        ------    :  :              CONTINOUS STROKE.
     ___   ---:        :         :  :        * DRAW FROM TOP TO BOT. AND
    /   \  ---:        :         :--:               FROM LEFT TO RIGHT
    \___/     :        :         :  :
                       +-------  :  :
      :                          :  :
      +--------                     :

IN CHINESE CHARACTERS:


          ------+           /   :
    ----- :     :          /    :     \
      :   :-----:        / :     \
    --:-- :     :          :   ------------
      :   :-----:          :       \
    ----- :     :          :        \
          :------          :         \
          /    :           :          \  /
         /     +----       :           \/


    AND AS FOR ITS MEANING, IT COULD BE ROUGHLY TRANSLATED INTO "MODERN ERA"
OR "COMTEMPORARY ERA" OR "CURRENT ERA", ETC.

    SORRY FOR TAKING YOUR CPU TIME AND STORAGE SPACE. BUT I JUST COULD
NOT LET IT PASS.

YOUNGHONG CHO
89419032@KRSNUCC1.BITNET

PS: SORRY FOR UPPERCASE-ING. I'M A BIT CLUMSY WITH IBM3090.
From: mjcd@CPDVAX.CSC.TI.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: CV's
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:50:16 GMT
Distribution: fj

Please remove me from this list. Thanks.
From: JKICHIOK%BRFUEM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?46
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:19:39 GMT
Distribution: fj

Greetings,

Excuse me Sir, but I wrote a mail for you and I don't received your

answer. Did you received may mail about KANJI OF THE DAY from number

1 to 45?? How can I get them?? The sysop here is changing the system

so I am not sure if my mail was sended to you.

Best regard

                           Jorge Prado
From: harry@ISSUN1.KFK.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?48
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:20:35 GMT
Distribution: fj

Gianmarco,

at ftp.uwtc.washington.edu (128.95.202.40) in directory
/pub/Japanese/KanjiOfTheDay you can find them.

Ciao

    Harald Kucharek ($B>.?M(J), Nuclear Research Center Karlsruhe, IDT
		7514 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen, Germany
         Internet: harry@issun1.kfk.de Phone: +49 7247 825706
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: conections in Imabari
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:15:24 GMT
Distribution: fj

I am looking for an e-mail connection with Imabari Ehime-ken. Can
anyone help me?  Thanks...

Jim Massey
masseyj@novavax.nova.edu
From: ALAMK%WABASH.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: japanese software
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:02:18 GMT
Distribution: fj

Dear friends,

I inadevertently deleted the information sent to me about Japanese
wordprocessing software..  Please could you send me the info. once again.
Thank you

kursheed alam
alamk@wabash
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: UEsama troubles
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:19:25 GMT
Distribution: fj

I have recently tried calling UEsama on Telnet 128.95.202.40; when
I connect, I try the traditional login process (anonymous, then my ID),
but it is not accepted.  What must I do to be UEsamaed?

Thanks,
Jim Massey
NOVA University
From: ACCNEWS%HOFSTRA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: DEREGISTERUP
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:40:01 GMT
Distribution: fj

From: rea2tzr@hofstra.bitnet
Subject: DEREGISTERUP

I am interested in contacting New York Area Gaijins interested in teaching
English to Japanese People.  I work at a Japanese school and am interested in
setting up some classes for adults.  Currently, the school is a juku and is not
used during the day so I thought people might be interested in setting
something up with the owner who is very cooperative.
Please contact:
Theresa Rooney
7 Manor Avenue, Apt. 111
Hempstead NY  11550
E-mail: REA2TZR@vaxb.hofstra.edu
From: RWESTMOR@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: kanji of the day ?47
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:39:31 GMT
Distribution: fj

However, some of us are interested in the "true" derivation of a kanji, and
would appreciate it if writers would at least keep the two ideas straight: it's
one thing to suggest a mnemonic for remembering a character; it's another to
claim that such-and-such is the derivation. It's annoying to see mnemonics
labeled as derivations or etymologies.
From: dr@ITE.OTA.GOV
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: kanji of the day ?46
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:01:13 GMT
Distribution: fj

Kurt: the new method you've adopted for the kanji of the day is much easier
to read--Bravo!
From: anil@CS.TITECH.AC.jp
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Sale of Macintosh PowerBook 100
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:05:21 GMT
Distribution: fj

No, you can get a new one in Tokyo for about 33 man, and memory is
very cheap nowadays. Software is usually not included in the
budget for computer, only hardware (see PC review back issues on
software piracy). This issue of software does NOT reflect MY opinion,
just a fact of the copmuter world: when people buy a computer, they
very rarely have a software budget.
The fact that a new model (powerbook 145) has superceded the pb100
also means that the price has recently come down. Bad time to sell
I guess.

Anil
From: 6o25@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?47
Date: 3 Oct 92 07:34:52 GMT
Distribution: fj

could you send me 1-46 =)  thank you!

--
Stephen Jones - SysAdm/SDF - 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org
From: stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?48
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:23:12 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi,
Your request for old versions of the Kanji of the Day messages has been
received. If possible try to obtain the messages from the ftp site that
is decribed below. Please report any difficulties to me

Greetings Kurt



NEW FTP SITE FOR JAPANESE LANGUAGE SOFTWARE

   The University of Washington Technical Japanese Program is now operating an
anonymous ftp server for Japanese software and information files.  The address
is:
      uesama.tjp.washington.edu       (128.95.202.40)

     We will be using this site to store that latest versions of freeware,
shareware, and demonstration versions of commercial software.  There will also
be information about using Japanese on computers (including Ken Lunde's famous
"JapanInf"), announcements of new products, descriptions of Japanese language
programs around the country, and anything else that might be useful.

Currently we are featuring the following items:

KANJI OF THE DAY - These files from Kurt Stueber
(stueber@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de) offer one method of daily study of kanji.
Each file contains a kanji (drawn in ascii-graphics), onyomi, kunyomi, a
mnemonic and/or derivation, common compounds, and computer code equivalents.
Currently the first 34 files are available, complete with corrections from
previous postings.  New files will be added periodically as they are updated.
[no japanese software required]

BEGINNING JAPANESE - This software from the University of Minnesota consists of
seventeen lessons in grammatical instruction and drill for students at an
elementary level of Japanese Study.  Two of the lessons are devoted
specifically to mastery of the hiragana and katakana writing systems.
[requires KanjiTalk 6.0.7 or later and HyperCard 2.1 or later]

KEN LUNDE - His latest software is available in /pub/Japanese/KenLunde.  These
are among the most useful utilities available on any platform for working with
Japanese characters.

NEWSAGENT1.24 - A USENET-news reader for the Macintosh capable of handling JIS,
Shift-JIS, or EUC (7- or 8-bit) codes.  The easiest way to read the fj.* groups
on the Macintosh.  [requires KanjiTalk 6.0.5 or later]

SHINBUN -- The standard OPEN LOOK based interface to the USENET news system
that uses the NNTP remote news server for accessing newsgroups and articles.
Handles JIS, Shift-JIS, or EUC (7- or 8-bit) codes in both reading and
composing.  [requires Japanese fonts, front-end processor, and multi-byte
character capabilities].


    Suggestions for further additions (or problems) should be sent to Jon
Wiederspan <jonwd@uwtc.washington.edu>  or may be submitted directly to the
site in /incoming.  Direct submissions should include the name and e-mail
address of the uploader in case of questions.
From: S2.RMK@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Japanese vs. American humor
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:20:58 GMT
Distribution: fj

The following is a summary of my research, which took place over
two years ago, and which has now been accepted for a presentation
at the International TESOL Conference in Atlanta, Georgia, in April
of 1993.  Briefly, I wish to express my sincere appreciation for all
those who participated in the study, some of whom are part of this
network.

Background to the study:
Learning English as a second language in the United States requires
the acquisition of many new skills and abilities, including the
interpretation of American humor.  Research in this topic is
important for several reasons.  First, humor is a means of
socialization nd acculturation.  If L2 (second language) learners
cannot understand American humor, their learning may be hindered.
Second, humor is often used in American classrooms to stimulate
curiosity and learning.  So, this study attempts to identify
factors that affect the receptability of cartoons by native
Japanese speakers.

L2 Humor Acquisition:  Japanese vs. American Cartoons Interpretations

Subjects were 64 Japanese and 28 American students.  The testing
instrument consisted of four parts.  Part 1 elicited demographic
information about the subjects.  Part 2 investigated the knowledge
of cultural aspects found in the cartoons.  Part 3 measured the
subjects' English proficiency.  Part 4 presented 18 American
cartoons, which had to be interpreted by indicating the intended
message.
The cartoons were divided into six sets, according to the context
they provided.  Some had only visual interpretation, others a
short dialogue.  Also, the cartoons belonged to two types:
culture-bound, making reference to an aspect of American
culture or history; and culture-free.

The interpretations of the cartoons were collected from the
Japanese and American subjects and were analyzed descriptively
and evaluatively.  Without going into further details of
the analysis, the final results in relation to the research
questions were the following:
(1) Do the Japanese interpretations differ from the American
ones?  Answer:  Yes.
(2) Do the Japanese interpretations of the non-culture-bound
cartoons differ in quality from those for the culture-bound?
Answer:  Yes.
(3)  Do the Japanese interpretations for one set of cartoons
differ in quality for another set?  Answer  Yes.
(4)  Is there a correlation between level of English proficiency
and response quality?  Answer:  No.
(5)  Is there a correlation between knowledge of cultural concepts
and response quality?  Answer:  No.

At the present I am moving to a new job in Grand Island, Nebraska,
and I don't know when I will be logging in this network again.

Thanks again,
Richard Kruse.
From: db6j+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: kanji of the day ?52
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:34:29 GMT
Distribution: fj

nezumi wo motte kite kudasai
nezumi wa oishii desu

these are the only 2 sentences I remember from when I was trying to
teach myself japanese from a book written in the 1930's a few years
back...now I'm finally taking lessons and not learning about rats and
mice!

Doug Brashear
db6j+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
From: mcsun!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!bnlux1.bnl.gov!hoff@uunet.uu.net  (Lawrence T. Hoff)
Subject: Re: iworks sunrpc won't install
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:13:55 GMT
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

In article <1766@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) writes:
>
>Sort of like dspst -n //Othernode, ......
>
>A question for Apollo-insiders:
>	Does the SR 10.4 NFS supply all the RPC daemons that are available
>	on SUN's ?
>
>	Willem Jan.
>

Apparently not, at least no yp, rstatd, ruserd, sprayd, walld.
As you pointed out, implementing rstatd would be a Apollo-specific
job. I doubt SUN would be interested in investing resources to do it.

rpcinfo -p APOLLO
   program vers proto   port
    100000    2   tcp    111  portmapper
    100000    2   udp    111  portmapper
    100003    2   udp   2049  nfs
    100005    1   udp    817  mountd


rpcinfo -p SUN
   program vers proto   port
    100000    2   tcp    111  portmapper
    100000    2   udp    111  portmapper
    100004    2   udp    663  ypserv
    100004    2   tcp    664  ypserv
    100004    1   udp    663  ypserv
    100004    1   tcp    664  ypserv
    100007    2   tcp   1024  ypbind
    100007    2   udp   1027  ypbind
    100007    1   tcp   1024  ypbind
    100007    1   udp   1027  ypbind
    100028    1   tcp    667  ypupdated
    100028    1   udp    669  ypupdated
    100029    1   udp    670  keyserv
    100003    2   udp   2049  nfs
    100005    1   udp    712  mountd
    100026    1   udp    726  bootparam
    100005    2   udp    712  mountd
    100005    1   tcp    715  mountd
    100005    2   tcp    715  mountd
    100021    1   tcp    730  nlockmgr
    100021    1   udp   1036  nlockmgr
    100024    1   udp    732  status
    100024    1   tcp    735  status
    100021    3   tcp    736  nlockmgr
    100021    3   udp   1037  nlockmgr
    100020    1   udp   1038  llockmgr
    100020    1   tcp    741  llockmgr
    100021    2   tcp    744  nlockmgr
    100021    2   udp   1039  nlockmgr
    100011    1   udp   1040  rquotad
    100001    2   udp   1041  rstatd
    100001    3   udp   1041  rstatd
    100001    4   udp   1041  rstatd
    100002    1   udp   1042  rusersd
    100002    2   udp   1042  rusersd
    100012    1   udp   1043  sprayd
    100008    1   udp   1044  walld
    100068    2   udp   1045
    150001    1   udp    823  pcnfsd
    150001    2   udp    823  pcnfsd
    150001    1   tcp    826  pcnfsd
    150001    2   tcp    826  pcnfsd



-- 



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From: van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!caen!spool.mu.edu!agate!soda.berkeley.edu!kmorgan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Keir Morgan)
Subject: Re: Strange login behavior
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: fj
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:37:52 GMT
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

In article <1992Sep23.005519.25505@ucc.su.OZ.AU> wonga@steam.chem.su.oz.au
(Adrian Wong) writes: 

>
> Problems with /dev/pty's is reminiscent of a pre-10.3 fix for pty's,
> could this current problem be related?
>

Yes, I believe the problem is related to the pty's. Or at least the goes away
for an indefinite amount of time after you rebuild them.

   I have noticed the problem on our DN3500/4500's runing Domain/OS 10.4.0.2.
We are not running NFS and vfork() seems to be working as well as it normally
does. Also, even after the node is rebooted the problem still exists. I've 
also noticed that the problem can be tied to a particular tty, (i.e. the
problem only exists on specific tty or a set of ttys). To get something
functional (assuming you are not running DM) when you notice this problem
just do a 'exec ksh'. From the ksh shut the machine down and then rebuild the
nescessary devices. Our problem was so bad for a while that we added the
following lines to /etc/rc.

if [ -f /bin/rm -a -f /etc/crpty ]; then
        (echo Rebuilding ttys >/dev/console)
        (cd /dev; rm -f ttyp* ptyp*)
        (/etc/crpty 8 >/dev/console)
fi

   I hope this works as a temporary fix.

Cheers!

Keir Morgan
kmorgan@soda.berkeley.edu || kmorgan@ocf.berkeley.edu
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