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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:23:43 EDT
From:         "AED-FD Homesh R. Lalbahadur" <hlalbah@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Peavey SP
Comments: To: synth-l@american.edu

  This is in response to David Nedwek's questions to me.

--  Sorry David, my original email to you was rejected by the MAILER-
DAEMON, whatever or whoever that is.

Question 1:  How much did pay?
answer 1:  I paid $750 for the SP purchased from Nadine's Music (1-800-525-5149)
           The SX was purchased locally at Rondo's Music (908-687-2250),NJ, for
           $262. I think they do mail orders also.  The SP is also $750 here.

Question 2:  Was the manual written by Craig Anderton.
Answer:  Yes, but the written specs for the unit is inadequate. For example, I
had to call Peavey to obtain the procedures to upgrade the memory.

Question 3:  General Impression
Ans:  I think the SP sounds good and will sound as good as the samples yoy put
 iin.  For 256K shipped memory for the SX is pretty much useless;however, you
 can upgrade to 16megs.   The SX will also probably work well with the K2000
 simply
to capture your samples off a CD,etc., and dump into the K2000.  The K2000
is on sale this month at Pianos n'Stuff (412) 828-1003 for $2,095.  I heard that
the SP lacks some sample editing capabilities common with other samplers.
 However, the SP can be upgraded from the two megs to 32 megs.  In general , the
 cost
for memory upgraded to the max is more that the cost for the units.

Question 4:  Did the SP come with sample disks?Has Peavey come out wwith the
             Prosonus library yet?

Ans:  There were four disks (one disk of a very good nylon string guitar sample;
one with a good drum map; and two disks of a grand piano which could have been
 bbetter).  I'm not sure whether they are from the Prosonus library.

--- Homesh L.
From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Ensoniq KS-32
Summary: Ergonomics
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:12:39 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <9207281354.AA17225@ktxs8.ktxnet> kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET (Peter Uchytil) writes:
>From what I understand you are correct about a repackaging.  It sure seemed
>like an SQ-232 (the new 32 voice SQ) with a new keyboard.  There were some
>other new buttons, though.  I didn't have a chance to really go over them.

Humph. Well, for people who complain about light synth keyboards, I suppose
this is easier to find and carry than a T8. But did they do the same bogus
endplate design on this unit as they did with the SQ-2, adding useless
decorations that make the keyboard a half inch too wide to fit on a normal
--
dr. michael metlay          \  "Warning: This is not normal music.
atomic city                  \  This is heavily processed pain."  
                              \ 
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \                       (r. miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: darrin@slaw.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P Cardani)
Subject: Re: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:18:58 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec.music.synth
Keywords: PERFORMER v3.61 FOR SALE $73.95
Originator: darrin@slaw.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Jul20.225736.1190@smsc.sony.com>, dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul19.210416.3991@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, remler@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Daniel Remler) writes:
> |> NO LONGER AVAILABLE
> 
> I hope this means you learned you can't do this, and not that you
> sold it to some unwitting dupe.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why do you think that? What's illegal about it?

> 
> -- 
> ...David Elliott
> ...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
> ...(408)944-4073
> ..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F

Darrin Cardani
darrin@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jpl@world.std.com (John P Lamar)
Subject: MAX Concert in Boston during MacWorld.
Summary: MAX concert in Boston at Berklee College of Music, August 5th & 6th
Keywords: MAX Music Concert
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:27:27 GMT

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			 Featuring The MAX Development Group at Berklee 
			  under the Direction of Dr. Richard Boulanger
					
		                Special Guest Performers
	             *****David Zicarelli of Opcode Systems*****
	           *****Neil Leonard of Mass College of Art*****
		         
**Virtual Performance Instruments**
 
                           **DrumKat Controlled 3-D Graphics**
                               
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Experience the next generation of virtuoso performance.
 
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			John Burkhardt
	                Matthew Davidson
			  Dan Keldsen
			  John Lamar
 
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* TWO SHOWS; 8 pm, Wendesday, August 5th & 8 pm, Thursday August 6th * 	
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		  Berklee College of Music-Music Synthesis Recital Hall
		              22 The Fenway-Room F12
		              Boston, Massachusetts
  Adjacent to Boston Consevertory-Hynes/ICA subway stop on the Green Line
					 
If you are in Boston for MacWorld- Come over for a great musical experience.
Seating is limited-call for reservations. 617-266-1400 (Music Synthesis Dept.)
 
For more info: Email John Lamar (jpl@world.std.com)
From: stuartm@spider.co.uk (Stuart MacNeill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For Sale: TR-909 Service Manual etc...
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:20:11 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

Service manuals for sale:

    ROLAND CR-78 Drum m/c Service Manual:  contains FULL circuit diagram
    ROLAND TR-808 Drum m/c Service Manual: contains FULL circuit diagram
    ROLAND TR-909 Drum m/c Service Manual: contains FULL circuit diagram

Let me explain. I bought these a couple of years ago with the intention of
building versions of the voice cards for these 3 CLASSIC analogue
drum machines. Well, like most great ideas, I never quite got round to it.
So I thought I'd let them go for a small price, to anyone out these who has had
a similar idea, or just needs to service their old drum machine. They all 
contain FULL CIRCUIT DIAGRAMS.

Price: well they cost me #25.00 UK each, so, let's see....
       How about #15.00 UK each or all 3 for #40.00 UK.
       UK enquiries only please, SORRY :->

Please reply via e-mail.

--Stuart MacNeill (stuartm@spider.co.uk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: covingc@ee.tamu.edu (Salvador Trousertrout)
Subject: Sequential Prophet VS
Summary: Anybody else have one?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:26:48 GMT

Does anybody else have one of these?  And if so, is it healthy?
And whatever happened to the guy that founded Sequential (Dave Smith?)?

Eric Covington
covingc@ee.tamu.edu
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re:      The K2000 vs. SY99 continued...
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:28:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Jul30.164124.28218@morrow.stanford.edu> AS.TLK@forsythe.stanford.edu (Timothy Kaufman) writes:
>I'm no expert on FM, but aren't the SY filters just an icing on the
>cake add-on?  The DX-7 had no filters;  indeed FM achieves it's
>timbral effects in other ways (varying the volume or tuning of the
>modulator operator, using a different algorithm, etc.).
>
>I guess having a good filter on top of that would be nice too.
>
>Question:  How do the capabilities of the DX and the SY (just the FM
>component) compare?  If the SY outperforms, is it due to:
>1)  Additional algorithms?
>2)  Increased digital resolution?
>3)  Those filters?

The SY77/99 FM is way above the DX synths.  Unfortunatly, many of the patches
going around for the SY77/99 are nothing more than rehashed DX7 patches
which don't really sound all that great.  Yamaha did a few significant
things to enhance FM.  The additional algorithms don't make much of
a difference but 3 feedback loops per algorithm is a killer.  Anyone
who has seriously programmed FM knows that it only starts to sound
thick when feedback loops are exploited.  Also, you have a larger
selection of operator waveforms.  You can do things with 1 or 2 
operators on the SY99 that would take 3 or 4 operators on the DX7.

The filters are not the greatest but they do sound pretty good (not
cheesy) and are very useful.  (I think the K2000 filters have a
tad more of the analog feel to them.)  Although the SY99 isn't constantly
"leaning" towards fat, analog sounds I find that it is well capable of 
producing distinctivly "non-FM" sounding timbres (without resorting to 
sample playback).  In fact, I was able to copy some of my old Polymoog
patches with acceptable results (with the Polymoog nearby for comparison).
The only thing keeping it from being as good was the filters which
simply weren't as good as the Moog filters.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: pink@Rosie.UH.EDU (Pink is Slack)
Subject: K2000 vs. SY99
Reply-To: pink@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:01:14 GMT

Hmmm... well the truth is obvious:
 
The K2000 comes from a little (ex-bankrupt) company and is buggy/ has
production problems.... and the SY99 comes from a Huge Sucessful company
that happens to also make Spas, Cars and Motorcycles and has no production
problems and no blatant bugs.
 
Clearly, the SY99 is the way to go......
 
...and we should all become good little republicans wearing our red power
ties and button down arrow shirts.  NOT!
 
The immense intelligence and ingenuity of Ramond Kurzweil is irrelevant, the
fact that the SY99 has been in production a LOT longer than the K2000 is
irrelevant.  We should all buy the same keyboard from the same monolithic
company and feel safe and secure in the harware's reliability.
 
 
I really have nothing against Yamaha--I was consindering buying an SY77
for awhile (then they discontinued it)...and I am a bit impressed with 
Mr. Kurzweil and what his company (or his ex-company) has done.  And I 
don't deny that the K2000 is over-hyped... but this seems to be the
press and salesmen's fault; not the Kurzweil's.
 

Innovation from small companies is ESSENTIAL to progress; the size of a 
company and the problems this size necessitates shouldn't be held against
them-- why not wait until the bugs are out?

--
   /\     '       Pink@Jetson.UH.edu          Box 66231 Houston 77266-6231      
  /_/.    `                          
 /  //\/< '  Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. --Lennon

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott)
Subject: Re: Attn:  MIDI Newcomers!
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:20:27 GMT

On the contrary -  two of my questions have been answered by up more
than a dozen direct e-mails, and a couple of posts. I have purchased
equipment with the information provided and am pleased with the result.

I in turn take the trouble to reply to people I can help. I wonder if
the poster ever has?
From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:58:39 GMT
Subject: Re: PAIA gear for sale
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

georg@miro.nlp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Georg Mueller)  writes:

>
>??? Moog string filter ???
>
>Please enlighten me and the other youngsters. Or do you mean the Fixed
>Filter Bank ??

The string filter was designed to mimic the formant responses of a violin
body, in order to allow an analog synth to better emulate strings.  I'm
not sure it was ever released as a product, but I heard a demo recording of
it at the (I think) 1974 Audio Engineering Society convention in Los Angeles.
At the time, I was impressed with the sound, but that was a long time ago.
It sounded to me like one of the things that was done was comb-filtering,
or perhaps just a lot of individual notch filters.

The Fixed Filter Bank, if I remember correctly, is more akin to an equalizer,
and was released as a product, a module.

If you stuff little folded bits of cloth in between turns of a reverb spring,
you can get comb-filter effects, probably due to reflections you are creating
by damping the spring at that point, similar to getting harmonics out of
the string of a guitar by lightly touching it.  You can tune the frequencies
that are enhanced or attenuated by moving the bits of cloth along the string.
I never got it to sound like strings, but I did get a sort of "organic" or
natural kind of sound out of it, which I then fed through the rest of the
VCA-VCF chain.  I used this trick both with the Paia reverb, and with a
Hammond spring driven by a circuit I built.  The Hammond springs are longer,
giving you a greater range of adjustment, and seemed to have more bandwidth,
although that could be because of my driver circuit as well.  Ah, well...

     |Jim Smith      Patch Variation #12:      baby on stomach      |
     |                                         dog dish full        |
     |smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com                  garbage can empty    |
     |                                         mail in the mail box |
From: tmca@Wairau.as.utexas.edu (Tim Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: The newbie on the block.
Summary: Help?
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:59:04 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

Well, it seems finally I'm getting a job that will pay me enough to
buy some of those toys that I always wanted. 'Trouble is I have no idea
where to start. Grief! I don't even know how to play a musical
instrument ('cept maybe a mixer board, but that was years ago).

Does anyone have any suggestions?

A little more detail: I'm about to go and spend 2 years on top of
a mountain in Chile. The good news is that they are paying me a bunch.
Seven years ago, before I sold my life for graduate school, I used to
mix for bands and produce sound effects, etc. for drama productions.
I also listened to electronic music a lot (mostly Tangerine Dream) and
always fancied a go at it myself. Way back then, the newest thing
on the market was the DX-7 and frequency modulated synthesis, the coolest
music being made was with a Prophet-5 and computer based systems
like the Fairlight-CMI and the Synclavier were still fairly new.

Nowadays, I have no effing idea.

How can I find out?

What could I buy that might be a good introduction (already have a
386/33MHz)? What would let me play with rhythms (what are the
cheaper sequencers capable of these days)? What would let me build my
own sounds? Sample and process sounds? Cheap but goodish multi-track
tape drives? Let's say, for starters, I might have, um, $5k to spare.
I'm really not all that concerned with learning to play the
piano, I just wanna play.

Spot the neophyte.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: eric@med.unc.edu (Eric Grant)
Subject: yamaha tx81z for sale
Originator: eric@salvo
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:40:37 GMT

I have a Yamaha TX81Z synthesizer module for sale.  This unit uses 4-op
FM synthesis, MIDI, and sits in a single rack space.  Add some of those
classic FM sounds to your setup.

The module is in excellent condition.  I want $200.

Eric (eric@med.unc.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: airiness and organs (was Re: Help on an Ensoniq SQ-1 please)
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:02:02 GMT

In article <5464@cvl.umd.edu> waksman@cvl.umd.edu (Adlai Waksman) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.105014.16015@hemlock.cray.com> dpm@cray.com (Donald P.  
Maghrak) writes:

> Yeah, it's these newfangled ELECTRO-PNEUMATIC ACTIONS
> that are always in need of releathering every few
> years.... Bach got along just fine without them!

Bah!  Or should I say, Bach!

That's why I stick with the wooden tracker action of my T8. ;-)

> Seriously, though, it's true that pipe organs were in a
> sense the first synthesizers.  (OK, so they don't have
> voltage-controlled components, but other techniques
> such as additive synthesis by adding specific harmonic
> components, detuned "celeste" effects (as well as the
> rich ensemble sound of many independent oscillators),
> resultant tones... all those have been done quite
> easily, for a long time, with pipes.) 

One of my favorite ways to simulate building "mutations"
is to use the chord-memory feature of the T8.  For example,
to build a cornet, I hold down C1,C2,G2,C3,E3
(8',4',2-2/3', 2',1-3/5') and press the solo pedal,
which locks in those intervals.  The monophonic voice
sounds just great with the new harmonics!  Other great
pipe organ settings include C1,C2,G3 (8',4',1-1/3'),
and C1,C4 (8',1'), 

The only problems are the lack of volume control of the
notes acting as the harmonics, and the reduced/removed
polyphony.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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From: dts@quad.sialis.com (David Sandberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: Please help QUICK! M1 or SQ80? Urgent...
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:58:46 GMT
Organization: Quadric Systems

In <NICK.92Jul24120851@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) sayeth:
>M1 is at least good for writing songs in Nashville. It's no good for (say)
>serious synthesis IMO. If you're into Nashville music, fine, but if you're not
>then this recommendation doesn't actually mean anything....
>As far as my musical projects go, the recommendation of a Nashville top song
>writer is no more relevant than that of a five-year-old.

Just a little nit here - the Nashville songwriting "community"
does a lot more than just "Nashville" music.  It's one of the top
hubs in the States for songwriters and publishing houses in many
different styles of music.  Don't let your perceptions be shaped
by only "the Grand Ol' Opry", or whatever it is they call it.

Who knows - this "Nashville top songwriter" could be writing
music just like yours, Nick.  B-)

Actually, the keyboardist/vocalist in my current project (which
is anything but "Nashville"-esque) is using an M1, and thus far
I've been reasonably impressed by its capabilities.  It certainly
seems capable of more interesting sounds than the TX81Zs, D110,
and other such stuff that make up the bulk of my personal studio
at the moment.  (The M1 sequencer is certainly useless, though.)

-- 
                  _ david sandberg _ dts@quad.sialis.com _
          People say marriage is "something you have to work at"...
                         but I already have a job.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jrjones@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (James Jones)
Subject: Korg M1 PCM cards for sale
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:32:28 GMT

For Korg M1:

   DRUMS1 PCM card set.......$50
   256K RAM (Korg)...........$40 

Drums card set is like new, with folding case and all documentation.
RAM card also like new, with good battery, hardshell plastic case,
   and documentation.

Reasonable offers considered


PS - I am losing net access on Aug 8th (got a new job! yea!) Please
respond before then if interested.

Jimmy Jones
From: mark@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sequencers for 512k Mac?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:08:13 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University


	I just picked up an old 512k Mac and I want to fit it with a MIDI
interface and get a sequencer.  Any recommendations?  Thanks in advance.

-Mark
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Tape Duplication Service?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:00:26 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Taligent

Can somebody please recommend a reputable duplication service for audio tapes? 
I'm looking for somebody to make copies of a lecture.  I would prefer a SF bay
area operator, but it's not a necessity.
From: dart@lock60.UUCP (Darius Taghavy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Yamaha SHS-10 keyboard (strap-on) for SALE (bo over $45)
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:11:23 GMT
Reply-To: dart@lock60.UUCP (Darius Taghavy)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lock #60 on the Schuylkill Canal, Mont Clare, PA, USA


   ======================================================================
   PLEASE REPLY TO ...uunet/rutgers!cbmvax!albright or call (215)430-7040
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   Yamaha SHS-10, 32 mini key strap-on MIDI FM synthesizer

   . 44 preset FM voices
   . 44 auto accomp. styles, 4 part multi-timbral (includes drums)
   . those styles can be played via 4 MIDI channels including system realtime
      messages
   . modes: normal, auto bass chord, melody on a,b,c, auto bass, auto chord,
   . single finger a.b.c
   . effects: pitch, portamento, vibrato, sustain
   . rhythm control: intro/fill-in 1,2,3, synchro start/ending, start/stop
   . chord sequencer: play1,2,3,record
   . parameter change: tempo, transpose, tuning, accomp. volume, MIDI channel
   . power switch, volume fader, 2 digit LED display
   . 2W amp, 3" speaker
   . 1/4 inch phone jack out (headphones and main)
   . MIDI out ONLY (notes, controllers, prg change and realtime events are sent)
   . DC 9-12 V powered (six AA batteries: alkalines will last 8 hours, power
      adaptor or car battery adaptor, none included)
   . weight: 2.4 pounds
   . manual, box and strap included


   This is a fun toy and a cool MIDI controller if you need something to
   generate an almost complete set of MIDI messages. I used it for fun and
   as a dedicated MIDI generator for my computer development system (so I didn't
   have to fire up my whole rig everytime I worked on my MIDI code).

   The keyboard is in excellent condition.

   Price: best offer over $45.

   Shipping extra.

   -dart

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   | (215)430-7040   | READING FROM: ...uunet/rutgers!cbmvax!albright   |
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