From: abbst@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.feminism
Subject: Re: The trashing of alt.feminism
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:38:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <MUFFY.92Sep1152109@remarque.berkeley.edu>, muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
> In article <5353@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> abbst@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes:

>>I am somewhat surprised that
>>the biggest violator of the charter of alt.feminism is the MODERATOR of
>>soc.feminism.

> What charter?  I have not seen one posted, nor has anyone shown one to
> me.  

It's not up to the group to cater to you.  Go look in alt.config and find
the charter.  As a net-citizen, this is *your* duty.  Be responsible for
your actions.

> My being the MODERATOR of soc.feminism has nothing to do with my
> posts to alt.feminism (except when I am attacked here for being a
> moderator elsewhere) any more than it does my posts to rec.food.cooking.

I can see President Bush using this excuse as to why it's "ok" for him to
get drunk and get arrested while on vacation in Mexico.  He shouldn't be held
to a higher standard just because he's the President.  He's "just" an average
Joe in Mexico.  Naaah.  He doesn't represent anything but himself.

Get real.  Every one of your actions in any other newsgroup reflects on
soc.feminism.  If you go around flaming and generally making an ass of
yourself you can't claim to be a reasonable person when it comes to moderating
soc.feminism.  Your conduct reflects directly on soc.feminism and it's
credibility.  You are giving soc.feminism a black eye with every flame
you post.

>>The new group is turning into a flaming ground by the very person who should
>>know better.

> I really think it is unfair of you to "blame the victim."  Do you
> complain about how the dead victims of a massacre "turned the area into
> a charnel house?"

Buzz words and catch phrases will not get you out of this one.  You are
trashing the group and using the excuse that you've never seen the charter.

If it's catch phrases you like, try this one:  "Ignorance of the "law" is
no excuse".

>>It makes one wonder if she isn't trashing the group because
>>she is jealous?

> Actually, I'm attempting to defend myself against flames.  

You come off as trying to disrupt this group so that it can not be used for
it's intended purpose.  You look like a "control queen" who is desperately
trying to hang on to power.  If you don't want to project this image then
you should ignore the "flame bait" that is being offered to you.

> If you have
> been reading, you should know that I did not START flaming anyone, they
> started flaming me.  I will not stop defending myself; it would be
> better for you to encourage people to stop attacking me (including
> posting email...*snort*).

Fine.  Everyone please stop "flaming" Muffy so that she will behave.  *snort*

>>Never in my wildest dreams did I expect that the person who'd
>>trash the new group would be one of the supposedly "solid" citizens of
>>USENET.

> Who said that?  I have certainly never claimed to be a "solid" citizen
> of ANYTHING.  I am no different from any other poster, beyond our
> individual differences.

If you are not a "solid" citizen, then one has to wonder what you are?
Something less than solid?  Untrustworthy?  Dishonest?  Which is it?

Should someone who insists that she isn't a "solid" citizen be moderating
a newsgroup?  Well?  What do you think?

> Send me this charter, please?

Go get it yourself.  I'm not your mother. *snort*

Al *snort*