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From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Subject: Re: Rig Veda and the Beginning of Time
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 05:41:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.223340.21094@colorado.edu>, paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
> In article <1992Dec29.002735.21430@odin.corp.sgi.com> murgesh@entropy.esd.sgi.com (Murgesh Navar) writes:
> >Rig veda :( ~ 1500 BC)
> >
> >        Whatever he made the world or did not make it,
> >        He knows whence this creation came, he only
> >        Who in the highest heavens guards and watches;
> >        He knows indeed, but then, perhaps, he knows not!
> >
> 
>    I think the essence of the timelessness of the vedas is contained
>    in the attempt to reach a self-consistent explanation of existence
>    without endowing God with human attributes, and without starting
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    with God as an axiom. 
> 

Then why is God referred to as He in the poem ? Male Chauvinism ?

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> .   Rain makes me remember,                                                .
> .   The sunset of that golden hour,                                        .
> .   When my eyes were first opened,                     Paul Chemmanoor    .
> .   And I saw your eyes, No longer blind.                   Boulder.       .
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
RKP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kamraa@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RAVI SHANKAR'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY
Date: 21 DEC 92 12:46:01 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

 I am looking for Ravi Shankar's Autobiography "My Music My Life". If anyone
inform me as to its availability and whereabouts, I shall be grateful.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajdas@rainier.tandem.com (Raj Das)
Subject: Re: Languages of assam ( Was Re: alt.culture.bengali)
Reply-To: das_raj@tandem.com (Raj Das)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:43:42 GMT

In article <1ho9h9INNkbu@hsc.usc.edu>, banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
|> rajdas@rainier.tandem.com ( Raj Das) writes:
|> >
|> >>please refrain from lumping Assam as a state that speaks Bengali, In case you
|> >>were unaware, Assam has its own language called Assamese, which is different
|> 
|> In case you were unware, the entire Barak valley speaks Bengali and dont tell
|> me differently because I have lived there. 
|> 
|> It is because of parochial Assamese chauvinism of the kind you just displayed
|> that demands for the dismembering of Assam into a Bengali state of Purbachal
|> (encompassing the entire southern Brahmaputra valley) and Bodoland in the
|> North East have been growing and might even come to pass.
|> 
|> Some people never seem to learn from history and thus condemn themselves
|> to repeating it's mistakes. The break up of Assam to create some of the
|> smaller states of the north east should have been a lesson (one would
|> suppose) not to pander to jingoistic sentiments. Apparently that lesson
|> seems to have been lost in Assamese insecurity over their own identity.
|> 
|> Samit

The original article carried the connotation that Bengali was the principal
language in Assam.  My post was to reiterate that in the state of Assam the
principal language is Assamese.  It is a fact that their are a number of people
in Assam that speak Bengali, Khasi, etc.  Whether or not I support the 
Balkanization of Assam is a personal political belief that I deem inappropriate
for discussion on the net.  Besides, the origin of these posts was with regards
to justifications behind the creation of soc.lang/culture(?).bengali (I believe
that's what it is to be called). I have already stated that I support the
creation of the group since I do not believe that anyone should be restricted
from forming their own groups or following their own political agendas.
You are free to have your opinions on Assamese insecurity as I am free to have
my own opinions on politics of Assam. As far as I am concerned, this is the
last post from me on this matter.

-- 
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Tandem Computers, Inc.		| and future posts reflect the opinions of
10600 N. Tantau Avenue		| the author solely and in no way reflect
Cupertino, CA   95014		| the views of past employers, Tandem, or  
PHONE:  (408) 285-2671		| any future employers. Phew.. that just
EMAIL: das_raj@tandem.com	| about covers everything.
From: khera@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Rajesh Khera)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Room for rent in GreenBelt/College Park MD area
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:09:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

If somebody of you or your friend is looking for a place to live
in Washington D.C. area go ahead and read this


I am moving and want to sublet a 
HUGE MASTER BEDROOM in GreenBelt MD. 
On exit 23, .5 miles from Beltway, 495. 
Its in SpringHill Lake Apartments if you are familiar.
Its really nice, new, quite apartment. 
Seperate full Bathroom. 
A Large walkin closet.
Its 3 miles to University of Maryland, College Park on the Greenbelt Rd.

Its a great deal at $330 including Heat and Hot Water. 

$175 if you want to share it with somebody.

In house washer-dryer. 

Huge kitchen with free cooking GAS
Living Room furnished, has TV and VCR.
Phone alredy connected.
Its Great.

Call 301 982 9581 Anupam
     301 220 4457 Vikram
     301 474 6385
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindus Resume Prayers in Ayodhya Shrine
Date: 2 Jan 1993 19:33:15 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Ayodhya Prayers

An question regarding some of the personalities in this Ayodhya
imbroglio. Is this Vishnu Hari Dalmia dude who was arrested with Singhal,
Uma Bharathi etc. in any way connected with the Dalmia Industrial group
or is it a total coincidence (after all, not all Goenkas are related to
either the Dunlop Goenkas or the Indian Express Goenkas!)?

Also, one UPI report that I read about the retaliation for the mosque
being destroyed had something about Sikh & Christian shrines being destroyed
in Bangladesh (and Pakistan??). Is that true? And if so, could someone venture  
to explain why?


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: gidh@bucknell.edu (kedar gidh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IT-BHU alumni list
Date: 25 Dec 1992 19:41:26 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.cs.bucknell.edu


Some time ago I posted a request asking for some info. on IT-BHU alumni abroad.
I got a good response based on that request and have mailed a list to all those 
who responded (198 names!!). 

For those of you who missed my earlier posting here is a repeat of my previous 
posting.
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I am trying to compile a list of IT-BHU alumni abraod. The idea is to have one
complete list so that all IT-BHU alumni can maintain contact with each other.

Please respond at the above email address with the following info.

1) Name
2) Branch (at IT-BHU)
3) Year of graduation from IT-BHU
4) Present University/Co. abraod
5) Current Email address
6) Most convenient Ph. no.

All those who contribute will get a copy of the list.
It is hoped that once the list is made, it would be updated regularly. 

Thanks.

Kedar
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Hope to have a real good network of IT-BHU alumni abroad.

Kedar
From: alis@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Sal-Myster)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Anyone in U. of Arkansas?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:42:24 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon St. U.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu

	Greetings!
	I would like some information about this university for myself, its
	enviroment, and other necessary facts. I would appreciate it if
	anybody either in that university or with knowledge, can help me in 
	anyway.

	Thankfully,
	Salman.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Re: Genesis-II [Let's change SCI] -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:12:09 GMT

In article <1i2mlaINNjja@bigboote.WPI.EDU> rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman) writes:

>If you don't like what is happening make it better. If you think you
>can't then quit reading SCI. Moderators just stifle freedom of
>expression.

1] Learn to take dissent well.
   And read articles *very* carefully.
   What I had written about was the formation of a new group,
   * not * about moderating sci.
   Those who subscribe to the moderated group would know what they
   are doing.
   If moderated newsgroups stifle expression, in your own words:
   "quit reading them".

2] My reading or not reading sci is none of your business.
   Neither is my reaction to the mess on sci, any of your business.

3] If you have any arguments against the formation of 
   alt.culture.indian.moderated state then instead of giving gratutious 
   advice.

4] Furthermore, that "moderated groups only stifle freedom of expression"
   is not a given.

   The moderation proposed in alt.culture.indian.moderated is meant
  to disallow articles that in the judgement of the moderators is unsuitable.
  Does this seem to be incredible to you ? 
  Just remind yourself that even the freest of newspapers does not print
  anything it recieves, it is under the implicit censorship of the editor.

  There are several moderated newsgroups that produce valuable discussion
without claims of improper moderating methods. 

5] Freedom of expression on the usenet, is too large a topic to dismiss
   in one line, or one paragraph. 

>No offence meant. 
>

5] Unfortunately your disclaimer does not match your article content.

>Rajesh Raman

Paul Chemmanoor.

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.   Rain makes me remember,                                                .
.   The sunset of that golden hour,                                        .
.   When my eyes were first opened,                     Paul Chemmanoor    .
.   And I saw your eyes, No longer blind.                   Boulder.       .
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From: manu@eiscpm.enet.dec.com (Manu Natarajan)
Subject:  Transfer of residence rules  ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:19:48 GMT


Can somebody e-mail the current transfer of residence rule and regulation
for the for returni to India

Thanks

Manu
From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: This is: HOW TO GET THE BEST phone deal to India
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:57:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: green.SHUBU.92Dec28205727
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.


>>>>> In article <1992Dec28.230553.18471@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>, mbhat@pcserver.Naitc.Com (Manoj Bhat) writes:

>>>>> In article <168C7AECF.C1935@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> C1935@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (KAILASH JOSHI) writes:

KJ> The best deal for india is mci friends and family.  As three of you will
KJ> make more than two calls a month take the call World plan for $3 a month.

KJ> MCI permits unlimited changes in the international number. 

MB> Nope. I was told by MCI that a change is allowed once a month only.

KJ> So a day or so
KJ> before you make a call change the number to the needed one.  

You can change the number just before making the call also, as long as
you don't change the number within a month.  

MB> Please don't abuse this service. If all desis start doing this, MCI will
MB> have to cancel the whole thing. The MCI operator we talked to , mentioned
MB> just this abuse by us desis. 

Huh!  What abuse?  When I enrolled w/ MCI, this was specifically
advertised as a feature/facility to us (since I have room-mates, who also
call India).  

Luck!
-Shubu

--
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Net:shubu@cs.{wisc,utexas}.edu   [W]:(608) 262-1012    [H]:(608) 255-6322
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@thorin.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: do we need a religion
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:32:51 GMT

In article <1h2kriINN4lb@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>Ruchir Godura shows his gauchery:
>>Fafat the poor hindoo,
>>So ashamed of what his kindoo,
>
>	*lotta effort*
>
>>  Bash Worma was his dharma,
>>  And "Hey Ram, Jai Ram" was anathema,
>>For an ass, he made alla himdoo. 
>
>	and named him Godura :)
>
>	
>	Arre meri Ruchira darling,
>	Itching is your ass so charming,
>	Catch hold of a 300 pound lass,
>	Get a slamming kick on the ass,
>	The smart ass will then start smarting.
>
>	FFT
>

Yawn.
Do I notice just a hint of unsporting (attempt at (woeful one at that)) humor there ?
I could go on with this thread ...
But this was an experiment to see how self styled comedians
digest their own medicine.
Apparently there are signs of indigestion here.
I'm content to let Vijaya darling have the last (mmmphh) f-f-fa-fart. (_)(_)
Ruchir.
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 292-0668 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Fafat babble %-{
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 07:40:31 GMT




Hey Phatphat,
you blithering idiot, 
When you reply and quote an article, have the decency to quote the
entire article, and not delete stuff to suit your servile
pseudo-secularist kiss-ass convenience. 
You still have to quote ONE line where I have expressed support for the
demolition of the mosque. ( implicit or explicit support ).
Your earlier limericks were even funny, but the malice and personal
inective in the later posts show that
bloody no-job idlers like you don't have the balls or the stomach to
digest jokes directed at themselves .. as long as you write your asinine
crap, it's OK, but when you get a dose of your own medicine, your
perverted brain dreams up fantastic allegations .. and they are serious
enough for me to waste my time replying to your senseless, contrived
rantings.
 ( Aside: There is someone on the net that has a signature line that
 goes like "Tell me what u pay attention to and I'll tell u what u r".
 I shudder to think what he wud think of me here !!)

My religion is my personl matter, and I have kept it so. Show me one
line from my earlier postings that might prove I am not an atheist, let
alone a devotee of some god.
As for your absolutely sick and humorless pseudo-rhymes, Mustafa Ibrahim
could do better. I have more important things to do than obviously you
have.
Now before you come back with renewed vigor to puke on the net, read
this article, and SUBSTANTIATE your sick imputations.
Badbye.
Ruchir.

 (let me use your logic to infer stuff about you)
 Fafat the fanatic mullah,
 Say whole day hey Allah, hai Allah,
   When in his mind canine,
   there evolve a sick rhyme,
 He lift his right leg, and flood the whole nullah.

I'll repeat my footnote so disgustingly mutilated by Fafat.
If anyone has questions about my view on the BM/RJB issue, not that it
matters much anyway, I'll be happy to present them, if only for the
benefit of jaundiced-eye idiots like Fafat.
-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Mustafa
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:52:05 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Dec26.072438.18248@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA) writes:


>
>Leaving aside the lighter side. People werw complaining that
>they don't like to read religion. Do you think we like reading
>bad words. I wish I complain to all your ADMINS.
>
>With regards
> 
>SUPRATIC GUPTA


I would like to bring this issue to the notice of all nettors. Please DO
								      ^^
NOT think, that you can get away with complaining to the Sys. Admins. of
individual users who use this network. The reason is that uner the First
Amendment YOU, i.e. the COMPLAINANT, can be sued in court, and also made
to pay damages, for loss of rights of Usenet access. This had been tried 
by some people before, and they had to pay for this. Hence, I would take
this opportunity to request nettors from,  REFRAINING to indulge in this
kind of COMPLAINING activity. Of course, since you are in Japan,  then a
user here, has recourse to other methods of taking action against such a 
kind of act.

Regards,
Vivek.

^^^

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindus Resume Prayers in Ayodhya Shrine
Keywords: Ayodhya Prayers
Date: 2 Jan 93 16:36:52 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1993Jan2.123536.27683@ulysses.att.com> bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy) writes:
>apnews reports:
>	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ Jubilant Hindu devotees, watched by
>armed troops, resumed prayers today at a disputed shrine in
>northern India after a court ordered the government to allow the
>rites.
>	   Authorities had stopped prayers to avoid Hindu-Muslim clashes at
>the site in Ayodhya, 310 miles east of New Delhi. Hindu militants
>tore down a mosque there on Dec. 6 and erected a makeshift temple,
>setting off nationwide riots that killed 1,200 people.
>	   Prayers were suspended Tuesday after Muslims threatened to march
>to the site to pray. About 200 Muslims fought with police on
>Thursday.
>	   Three Hindu religious groups challenged the ban. On Friday, a
>court ruled that Hindus had the right to pray, but said the
>authorities could regulate access to the site to maintain order.
>	   Today, about 60 saffron-robed ascetics and small groups of
>devotees blew conch shells and chanted hymns in front of the
>canopied temple, Press Trust of India reported.
>	   They were among 90 holy men who had refused food for four days
>to protest the prayer ban.
>	   Many Hindus believe Mogul invaders built the mosque on the ruins
>of an earlier temple marking the traditional birthplace of
>warrior-god Rama. Both communities have been locked in a
>decades-old legal battle over ownership of the site.
>	   Muslim leaders have demanded the immediate reconstruction of the
>mosque. Hindu radical groups want to build a grand temple there.
>	   The government has proposed taking over about 100 acres of land
>around the disputed shrine and setting up independent trusts to
>build a temple and a mosque.
>	   The plan has satisfied neither Hindus nor Muslims.
>	   India's Muslims number 120 million, 12 percent of the nation's
>875 million people. Hindus account for 82 percent.
>

I have some questions here.

1. How do Hindus have a right to pray there?
2. Do Muslims also have a right to pray there?

It is very difficult to understand how the GOI thinks.


Manoj
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42209 soc.culture.bangladesh:7167
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Tagore for the week (No Translation)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 07:26:21 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

	Naibedya 50

tomare satodha kori khudro kori diya
matite lutaey jara tripto supto hiya
samosto dharoni aaji abohelabhare
pa rekhechhe tahader mathar upore

	manussoto tuchchho kori jara sara bela
	tomare loyia sudhu kore puja khela
	mugdhobhabbhoge sei bridhdho sisudal
	samosto bisser aaj khelar puttol

tomare apon saathe koriya soman
je kharbo bamongon kare aboman
ke tader dibe man! nijo mantrosware
tomarei pran dite jara spordha kare
ke tader dibe pran! tomareo jara
bhag kare ke tader dibe oikkodhara.
Love


Arindam Ghosh		(OFF) 713-743-4524
4402 Polk #3		(RES) 713-924-3069
Houston TX-77023

Asato ma sadgamaya, Tamaso ma jyotirgamaya,
mrityorma amritam gamaya,Om santi ssanti ssantihi.
[Lead me  from unreal to real
Lead me  from darkness to light,
Lead me from death to immortality,
Peace be upon the world]
This is the Day in which God's most excellent favors have been
poured out unto men, the Day in which His most mighty grace hath
been infused into all created things. It is incumbent upon all
peoples of the world to reconcile their differences, and, with
perfect unity and peace, abide beneath the shadow of the Tree
of His care and loving-kindness...Soon will the present-day order
be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy
Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.
					Bahaullah


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tsreddy@skitime.Eng.Sun.COM (T.S.Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: South Bay home to share.
Keywords: Single Family Home, Blossom Valley
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:57:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: skitime



Posted for a friend, please call her directly at numbers
listed below.

Looking for two non-smoking female roommates to share a
Blossom Valley home with the following features:

       * 3 bedroom, 2 1/2 baths, 2 storey.
       * Quiet, clean, neighborhood.
       * Refrigerator, washer/dryer and
         water purifier.
       * Nice backyard with patio. 
       * Easy access to 101 and soon to be completed 87 
         (and 85 if it is ever completed).
       * Minutes from IBM and very close to downtown San Jose.

Rent is $400 per month+$400 deposit+1/3rd utilities. Will 
be available Feb 1. Call Sunita at (408)-369-8727 (home)
or (408)-285-7571 (work). Leave message.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule)
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:49:12 GMT

Knock-Knock !
Who's there?
Donna.
Donna who ?
Yes, that's right !


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule)
Subject: Re: Good News for India
Keywords: PIGS, ABCDs, ISAs, UCLA. UGs
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:44:59 GMT

In <1hbp2lINN3ov@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:


>>	It might interest you that at USC we follow the ancient Indian 
>>	tradition of never getting along with each other. We have two
>>	India Associations. 
>>
>>	Shivanand Bhajekar

>	This is interesting. One is by the desis for desis and the ABCDs.
>	The other one is of the abcds, for the abcds by the abcds. And they
>	have a very moronish reason for it : It's because UCLA has 3
>	ISAs (anyone at UCLA to confirm?)... btw, most of the PIGS stay away
>	from both the ISAs (except during shluurrrppp time, of course).
>	Most of the show is by UGs. 



We (at Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada) have only one Association - 
This one is "of the abcds, for the abcds by the abcds".  Its virtually
defunct though they do wake up once or twice during the year. Most of us 
"PIGS" almost always keep away from any of their functions !

Just another piece of trivial information !

Ajit.


-----------------------------------------------
Ajit Tulpule

School of Business
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1S 5B6

email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
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