From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Chrysler Invented Cab-forward?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 02:19:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) says:

>Drew writes:
>
>	"the biggest thing about all this bragging that Chrysler has
>	been trying to do ... is still that they can't come up with the
>	room for a stick shift pedal arrangment..? ...  they don't
>	think i'm intellegent enough to handle the truth in their
>	advertisements ... If they misrepresent "facts" like these, how
>	can they expect me to believe that they know what they are
>	talking about ..."
>
>The problem here is that you believed what you read on the net, and
>somehow found enough ammo here to belittle the credibility of the
>entire company.
>
>Chrysler didn't say this.  A car magazine writer guessed that the wheel
>well prevented a clutch pedal.  What he failed to note is that they
>could make room for the clutch pedal by losing the parking brake pedal
>... and that Chrysler is working on a stick shift for the 95 LH.  (How
>do I know?  I read it in a different car magazine.  Hmmm ...)
>
>But what do you care, Drew? -- it's front wheel drive.  ;-)

what makes you think i do not like FWD.  Granted, i think RWD has its place,
and much prefer AWD, i like most FWD CARS better than most RWD cars and
many AWD vechicles.  I drive a FWD car now, and i love it.  In fact, the
only one i've ever had the pleasure to drive that wasn't FWD or AWD was a Ford
F-150(hardly anything to compare!)

i care because i thought maybe Chryco was finally gonna pull thier heads
out of thier butts and make a REAL car.  No more of the K-car crap!  But,
i see thier first add on TV, misrepresenting the truth of thier design.
Any nimrod with 1/2 a brain devoted to cars knows they are feeding the 
consumer a crock line!  (this was the one about pushing the wheels out..)

Then i see the one about the "new" tires...yeah.whatever!  Another 
misrepresented "fact" from Chryco!  

As far as the crap about believeing what i've seen on the net, yeah.i
believed what i was told about them not having the room for a third(fourth,
as i recall writing, which i believe you conveniently delted in the above,
if you count the blasted EB pedal) pedal for the clutch.  I do not know, as
i haven't been able to keep up my subscriptions to the mags, and some people
do not take too kindly to your "browsing" for too long!  But, more than
one poster claimed that this is the reason behind it.  Now, seems to me, that
if Chryco was going to brag so much abt the cab foreward crap, and how they
push the wheels to the corners, the car mags should never have had this
to use as an excuse for Chryco.  At least Ford never hid the reasoning behind
the availability of the auto in their SHO's.

They can try to feed me all the CRAP they want, but that doesn't mean that
i have to believe them.  This is one case where they are CLEARLY mis-
representing the truth.  They are claiming that they do things for reasons
that are, at best, side effects of the true and real reason, and, at worst,
a complete load of crud!  Again, i still say, if they can't see their way
clear to tell me the truth even in their ADVERTISING, i'm not even going to
walk into the lot to hear the lines of sh** the sales****** will feed me!
I would never feel that i could trust them to tell me truth about repairs,
or much of anything else.  They are, IMHO, lying, flat out, to their
customers, because thier advertising Dept. seems to think that we, as the
cosumer, are not intellegent enough to distinguish fact from fallicy.  They
try and screw me, i say..let um..i'll buy a Ford, or Chevy (or, most likely
a BMW or VW).  I do not need a company that is going to lie from day one
(the first add i see)..this is not a good practice..  I had hopes for 
the car, i thought it looked sharp the first time i saw an advert(before the
guy started talking!!..feeding me CRAP!).  But then, he was a crackpot,
the car has no stick, and, from what i saw, no front passanger leg room
(width wise!)..i am finding myself DISGUSTED with Chryco's latest attempt..
too bad, i had hopes; if only they hadn't lied to me on that first commercial!

best of luck!
DREW
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