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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 24 Jul 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:12:15 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 23 July 1992
Summary for 23 July and Forecast up to 26 July
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity : very low

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin   End    Freq.  Sectors
None.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 099/048

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             24 July          25 July          26 July
Activity     low              low              low
Fadeouts     None expected    None expected    None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 095/043

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : generally unsettled with active levels
from 18-21UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          14  3333 2342
    Learmonth       08  2223 1322
    Fredericksburg  17
    Planetary       18

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled
Ap :  12

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: fair to good
Mid Lats: fair to good
High Lats: poor to fair
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to improve at all latitudes over
the next day.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

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4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were near normal 00-08UT and 16-22UT, 30% depressed
at other times. Blanketing sporadic E and spread F conditions may
have degraded communications from 08-19UT.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  80

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
             24 July             25 July             26 July
MUFs         depressed 15-25%    depressed 20%       depressed 20%
T index      87                  90                  90

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for July is 120.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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Newsgroups: aus.radio
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 21 Jul 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:46:18 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 20 July 1992
Summary for 20 July and Forecast up to 23 July
IPS Warning No. 18, issued on 20 July, is still current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity : low

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin   End    Freq.  Sectors
None

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 124/76 

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             21 July          22 July          23 July
Activity     low              low              low
Fadeouts     None expected    None expected    None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 115/66 

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          06  2121 3221
    Learmonth       03  0100 3120
    Fredericksburg  09
    Planetary       10

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : mostly quiet to unsettled with 
active periods possible near the end of the day due to a
coronal hole.

Ap :  20

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Normal.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be normal.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were depressed 15% for the most of the day.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  82

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
        21 July              22 July              23 July
MUFs    depressed about 15%  depressed about 15%  depressed about 15%
T index 85                   85                   85

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for July is 120.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: A broadcast service.
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:21:17 GMT

makinc@hhcs.gov.au writes:

>> Only one .. I'd consider using an FEC protocol in lieu of just a CRC,

>I actually didn't think of a FEC protocol I must admit, however
>it would negate one of the major advantages of the idea, that is
>it can be received with minimal equipment.

I don't know baout that .. it would certainly preclude a dumb terminal
hanging off a modem, but any sort of pc (in its truest definition) hanging
from a modem would work fine.

>Each message will have a message ID and, probably, a CRC (I
>haven't decided yet).  Each message will be transmitted several

I assume the CRC would also be sent in a printable ascii form and not
as a binry checksum ?

>times over a 24 hour period so you will have a decent chance of
>getting it.  I think the reduction of throughput by 2/3rds
>(ie down to 800 baud), using some sort of AMTOR FEC mode but with
>more bits, is too much of a penalty for the reliability it would
>give.

Why limit the system to 1200 bps ? Surely it is possible to squeeze a
little more than that from a 7910/2206 type modem and a voice channel ?

Ok, you're not keen on the FEC idea .. I can tell .. how about having the
system alternate .. FEC/vanillla/FEC/vanilla .. ? Nah .. I don't think
I like it either ..

What about a checksum/crc per line, instead of per bulletin ? .. I guess that'd
be messy to read .. 

Oh well .. it'll certainly be good for non-hams to monitor ..

>> I realise this would prevent people with 'dumb terminals' from making
>> simple use of the thing, but would aid in sedning the stuff about
>> in a relatively error free manner .. who uses a dumb terminal these days ?

>Most packeteers. :-(

Huh ?

>> As you say, its not packet, but its a neat idea ..

>Well I got a simple test program running last night that
>correctly formatted the data from hand entered text.  Next is to
>get some sample output from my BBS and write a conversion in.  My
>first attempt will probably just be a simple program to read a
>BBS export file, convert it and spit it out a serial port.  Once
>I have that working I can add in the whizzies. :-)

I'd prepare an article/project for publication in one of the _non_ amateur
magazines .. ie Electronics Australia .. Silicon Chip .. whichever pays best
and has survived the current current economic situation .. for people interestedin Amateur Radio but haven't gotten a license yet, it'd be a great resource :-)

Terry


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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: Re: A broadcast service.
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:19:40 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <terryd.711516788@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>, terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:

> Only one .. I'd consider using an FEC protocol in lieu of just a CRC,

I actually didn't think of a FEC protocol I must admit, however
it would negate one of the major advantages of the idea, that is
it can be received with minimal equipment.

Each message will have a message ID and, probably, a CRC (I
haven't decided yet).  Each message will be transmitted several
times over a 24 hour period so you will have a decent chance of
getting it.  I think the reduction of throughput by 2/3rds
(ie down to 800 baud), using some sort of AMTOR FEC mode but with
more bits, is too much of a penalty for the reliability it would
give.

> I realise this would prevent people with 'dumb terminals' from making
> simple use of the thing, but would aid in sedning the stuff about
> in a relatively error free manner .. who uses a dumb terminal these days ?

Most packeteers. :-(

> As you say, its not packet, but its a neat idea ..

Well I got a simple test program running last night that
correctly formatted the data from hand entered text.  Next is to
get some sample output from my BBS and write a conversion in.  My
first attempt will probably just be a simple program to read a
BBS export file, convert it and spit it out a serial port.  Once
I have that working I can add in the whizzies. :-)

Carl.

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Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: Re: [Questions-General] `Packet club in Sydney area?', etc.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:05:12 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services


I love the subject to this thread... :-)


The Questions-General advises that packet is a wealth hazzard.

<smirk>

Carl.

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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: New VK2 councillor
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:18:50 GMT

makinc@hhcs.gov.au writes:

>> Key phrase "on-air" ... thats all I was saying :-)
>> I realise you are keen on developmental work, and actively engaged in same.
> 
>> Just a friendly dig Carl .. no negative sentiment intended :-)

><grin>  I know, but it was a good excuse to brag! :-)

Can't criticise someone for making good use of an opportunity :-)

Terry

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From: richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane)
Subject: Re: [Questions-General] `Packet club in Sydney area?', etc.
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 13:02:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.132312.253@hhcs.gov.au> makinc@hhcs.gov.au writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.072043.19427@runx.oz.au>, richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:
>> What is not widely known (but was mentioned at the recent WIA AGM),
>> is that the proposed deregulated license conditions will allow Novice
>> Limited amateurs to use digital modes in their 146-148 segment. This
>> proposal is paragrah 32, which you won't find in the new regs as listed
>
>I thought that was a joke.  The current draft ends at para 31 and
>on an entirely different topic.

Could very well be, but the divisional councillor who revealed this
piece of info at the VK2 AGM (don't remember who it was) did so with
a very straight face - maybe he's after Elliot Goblet's job :-)

I will admit that I have yet to see anything in writing about it...

73 de Richard VK2SKY

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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: Re: [Questions-General] `Packet club in Sydney area?', etc.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:05:10 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Jul26.130239.28995@runx.oz.au>, richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

>>> is that the proposed deregulated license conditions will allow Novice
>>> Limited amateurs to use digital modes in their 146-148 segment. This
>>> proposal is paragrah 32, which you won't find in the new regs as listed

>>I thought that was a joke.  The current draft ends at para 31 and
>>on an entirely different topic.
 
> Could very well be, but the divisional councillor who revealed this
> piece of info at the VK2 AGM (don't remember who it was) did so with
> a very straight face - maybe he's after Elliot Goblet's job :-)

I wonder how hard someones been yanking someone else's leg! :-(
 
> I will admit that I have yet to see anything in writing about it...

<FX Scots accent>  Aye, now there's the rub...

Carl.

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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: Re: [Questions-General] `Packet club in Sydney area?', etc.
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:19:32 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Jul15.072043.19427@runx.oz.au>, richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:

Hi Richard,

> What is not widely known (but was mentioned at the recent WIA AGM),
> is that the proposed deregulated license conditions will allow Novice
> Limited amateurs to use digital modes in their 146-148 segment. This
> proposal is paragrah 32, which you won't find in the new regs as listed

I thought that was a joke.  The current draft ends at para 31 and
on an entirely different topic.

Carl.


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Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
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makinc@hhcs.gov.au		   -   Internet
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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: DSP 4 information available
Keywords: dsp modem stuff
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 07:14:23 GMT

wkt@rodos1.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey) writes:

>A large cost for DSP4 will be in obtaining the 4-layer PCB. Could people who
>are interested in the project let me know - we're trying to get costings
>for the PCB production at the moment, and the more who want the board the
>cheaper per person.

You can count me in naturally .. and I'd suggest John Tanner as well.
We have a source of pcb manufacturing as well .. what details do you have for
the board ? We could chase a costing independently.

Terry

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Dear OM,
I am not sure where you are getting your information from
regarding the above matter but it seems quite in error in fact.

As for NZART urgently faxing WIA asking for info on the proposal
this also is news to me and I thought I might have known.

Auckland City Council had made a proposal for such a test scheme but
this has been shelved if not dropped due to the magnificent effort of
the Auckland amateurs. 

As regards a Bill before Parliament ref amateur radio testing this is
all news to me.

Best 73.

Jim Meachen ZL2BHF
National President NZART


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Date: 24 Jul 92 00:56
From: ZL3PH@ZL3AC
To: VK2SKY@VK2RWI
Subject: Radiation info please.
Hi to those at VK2WI,
  Re, `ZL AMATEURS FACING RADIATION CHECK-UP' BF27423@VK2RWI
  Please, a moment of your precious time, the following questions, I feel
 need answers, which were not apparent, at least to me, in your bulletin.
 (1). The source of your information was?
 (2). Whose proposal was it? and to whom?
 (3). What suggested legislation?
 (4). Who suggested this legislation? and when?
 (5). What was the basis of the suggested legislation?

 Other questions will, of course, be asked by me of NZART (I am a member).

 Questions were asked, of my local member of parliment, within minutes of readin
g your bulletin. Replies to those questions will be forthcoming
because he is well aware that, in this voters view, `he is only on a 3 year
trial'. And, `should not to get to used to his office wallpaper'.

  Thanks and answers,
Thanks for bringing the subject to my attention, thankyou also for reading,
this and hopefully forwarding a reply.
 `...One would think the New Zealand government might leave amateurs
alone...' Answer, Why should they? they have picked on everyone and
everything else.
                 73, de Brian,
 (Who has, in sending this, used some power, created some radiation,
and is not freezing because he is more than warm under the collar. Hi!).


-------------


Date: 24 Jul 92 08:06
From: ZL2CA@ZL2WA
To: VK2SKY@VK2RWI
Subject: misleading VK2WI bulletin
Regarding your misleading message about radiation checks, the subject
has arisen a second time with a local authority proposing a bylaw.

Standards for non-ionising radiation are the same in VK and ZL, as
New Zealand adopted the text of the current Australian standard.

These standards are arguably good ones.  Contention may well arise in
how they could or should be enforced.  There is general increase
in hazard with higher powered transmitters, such as broadcast
stations or surveiilance radars.  The first local authority to pass
a bylaw on this had an exemption for stations having a mean RF output
power not exceeding one kilowatt.  This is considered to be a very
practical way of reducing needless effort in checking stations that
have a low risk.  But is does not mean the standard is 
unsatisfactory, here or in Australia.

73, Bob Vernall  ZL2CA
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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 20 Jul 92
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:46:15 GMT

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 19 July 1992
Summary for 19 July and Forecast up to 22 July
IPS Warning No.18 will be issued later todat.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity : low

Flares    Max     Fadeout    Begin   End    Freq.  Sectors
None.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 119/070

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             20 July          21 July          22 July
Activity     low              low              low
Fadeouts     None expected    None expected    None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 110/060

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Sydney          04  2211 1112
    Learmonth       00  0000 0010
    Fredericksburg  05
    Planetary       05

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Sydney : quiet to unsettled
Ap :  15

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
None.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Normal.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to be normal.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUF's at Sydney were near normal apart from 10-20% depressions
07-13UT.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  83

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
         20 July         21 July          22 July
MUFs     depressed 15%   depressed 20%    depressed 20%
T index  90              85               85

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for July is 120.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: STS-47 INFORMATION: PART II
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:48:24 GMT

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 200.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD JULY 18, 1992       BID:$ANS-200.02
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

N5QWL Provides STS-47/SAREX Information: Part II

        PACKET:  Downlink (shuttle transmits) on 145.55
                 Uplink (ground transmits) on 144.70 (worldwide)

        If you can, decrease your radio's deviation to 3 KHz (most are
        initially set at 5 KHz) and compensate for the Doppler shift.  If
        you cannot, wait until a minute or 90 seconds after we come over
        your horizon to transmit - that will put you within our IF.  If
        a station transmits without following these suggestions, we just
        hear what sounds like a noisy carrier.  The above applies to both
        voice and packet.


QSL via: N5QWL, 806 Shorewood Drive, Seabrook, Texas 77586 USA

         Include a self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE).

         Non-US stations include a self addressed envelope with $0.50 of US
         postage affixed or appropriate IRCs.

         Include the Callsign worked, Date, UTC, Mode, and Frequency.
         For packet contacts, include the QSO number issued by the robot.

         SWL QSL's: Include the Callsign heard, Date, UTC, Mode, and
         Frequency.


Information Sources During The Mission:

AMSAT News Service (ANS) bulletins, Compuserve, Genie, Prodigy,
local packet bulletin boards, ARRL bulletins, and HF voice from NASA
Johnson Space Center ARC, Houston, Texas, W5RRR, or NASA Goddard
Spaceflight Center ARC, Greenbelt, Maryland, WA3NAN, frequencies listed
below.

     W5RRR may be found on or near: 7.215, 14.280, 21.360, and 28.400 MHz.
     WA3NAN retransmits NASA Select Audio and SAREX bulletins
     simultaneously on or near 3.860, 7.185, 14.295, 21.395, and 28.650
     MHz.

     The NASA Info BBS at Johnson Space Center, Houston, will also carry
     Keplerian elements and SAREX bulletins.  (713) 483-2500, 1200 baud,
     8-N-1.  At the ENTER NUMBER: prompt, type 62511 <return and log
     onto the BBS.  The Keps and bulletins will be in the welcome
     message.  Disconnect rapidly to facilitate access by others.


[The AMSAT News Service (ANS) would like to thank N5QWL for this bulletin
item. Please stay tunned for more more STS-47 SAREX information from the
ANS.]

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