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From: MARDER@AGRI.HUJI.AC.IL (Jonathan Marder)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: ASP annual meeting to emphasise photosynthesis
Date: 13 Dec 92 09:02:10 GMT
Distribution: bionet

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The Center for the Study of Early Events in Photosynthesis at
Arizona State University has been asked to place this announcement
on the listerv.
********************************

The American Society for Photobiology's Annual Meeting in
Chicago (Downtown) from June 26-30, 1993, will feature a
strong focus on photosynthesis research.

Symposia are scheduled for approximately three hours each;
the titles include:
     "Electron Transfer in Biological Systems"
     "Photosystem I, Structure and Dynamics"
     "Light Harvesting and the Dynamics of Energy Transfer"
     "Vibrational Spectroscopy of the Reaction Center"
     "Photosystem II and Oxygen Evolution"

Many internationally known researchers will be presenting.
Opportunities exist for presenting short contributions and posters
in these and related areas.  ASP members and non-members are
welcome.

For further details, information on student travel awards, etc.,
contact:

         Dr. Mike Rodgers
         Department of Chemistry
         Bowling Green State University
         Bolwing Green, OH  43403
         USA

         Phone:  419-372-7606
         Fax:    419-372-6069


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From: bky@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.a.stafford)
Subject: fertility of triploids
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:35:17 GMT

   Are all triploids always sterile?  I was planning try my hand at Magnolia
breeding this spring.  In the course of doing some research on the plants
that I had intended to use as parents I found that one was a triploid.
   I was under the impression that triploids are sterile but I recently
read that triploids of some plants can be self fertile and can also
produce fertile pollen.
   Can anyone clear this up?  Thanks.

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From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: sweet corn for endosperm culture
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:06:26 GMT

I am posting this for Dr. Robert Bandurski at Michigan State.
He would like some very young sweet corn ears to make some endosperm 
cultures. 

If anybody can help, he can be reached at 517-355-4685

Thanks,
Allen
From: u6069416@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Tobacco seeds structure information
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:56:31 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

Does anyone know where could I find information, mostly pictures or diagrams,
about the anatomy and citology of tobacco seeds? I am going to test GUS
expression directed by a barley seed-specific promoter in transgenic tobacco
plants and I would like knowing more about this organ before starting. My main
concern is being able to recognize in microscope preparations the diferent
tissues of tobacco seed during several developmental stages.
Thank you for your answers.
      
     Joaquin Royo
     School of Botany
     University of Melbourne
     Australia
     E-mail: u6069416@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

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From: nking@unix1.tcd.ie (Nev's family recipe)
Subject: polynesian ethnobotany
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:23:24 GMT

i am currently doing a dissertation on the biology of thespesia
populnea (miro, milo ,portia tree, mahoe)
and its use by pitcairn islanders.
If anyone has any information on its medicinal, or other uses of the
plant.... E Mail me at nking@unix1.tcd.ie


Cheers

Nev
From: ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk (Tony Travis)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Re: Plant communication/sensing references wanted
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk
Distribution: bionet
Organization: Rowett Research Institute
Original-To: plantbio@uk.ac.daresbury

In article <921212201751.MIN-LVICa00330.bionet-news@uk.ac.daresbury> you wrote:
: 
:    The subject about says it all: I'm interested in references to literature
:    which explores the capabilities of the plant world with reference to
:    sensing of hostile environments or predators, defense mechanisms thus
:    initiated, and inter- as well as intra-plant communication of sensory
:    information.

Hello, Rich.

There is a recent book called "Sensitive plants" that, amongst other topics,
describes the responses of Mimosa pudica.  Unfortunately, I've forgotten the
author/publisher - does anyone else know?

	Tony.
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Newsgroups: bionet.plants
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Plant communication/sensing references wanted
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: bionet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:00:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.232346.4887@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk writes:
>In article <921212201751.MIN-LVICa00330.bionet-news@uk.ac.daresbury> you wrote:
>: 
>:    The subject about says it all: I'm interested in references to literature
>:    which explores the capabilities of the plant world with reference to
>:    sensing of hostile environments or predators, defense mechanisms thus
>:    initiated, and inter- as well as intra-plant communication of sensory
>:    information.
>
>Hello, Rich.
>
>There is a recent book called "Sensitive plants" that, amongst other topics,
>describes the responses of Mimosa pudica.  Unfortunately, I've forgotten the
>author/publisher - does anyone else know?
			.
			.
			.
I know of none by that title other than such regional
field guides as

	DeBolt, Ann, and Roger Rosentreter
	1988	An illustrated guide to the sensitive
		plants of Boise District, Bureau of Land
		Management.  Bureau of Land Management,
		Idaho State Office, Boise
or
	Dimling, Jennifer
	1991	Sensitive plant field guide:  Willamette
		National Forest.  USDA, Forest Service,
		Pacific Northwest Region, Portland

I suggest the requester search the phytosemiotic literature,
that is, use "phytosemiotic" as a keyword.  I don't think
any books have yet been published with that title, but

	Deely, John N.
	1982	Introducing semiotic:  its history and
		doctrine.  Indiana University Press,
		Bloomington
or
	Koch, Walter A.
	1986	Genes vs. memes:  modes of integration
		for natural and cultural evolution in a
		holistic model ("Elpis").  Studienverlag
		Dr. Norbert Brockmeyer, Bochum

might have pointers to articles in periodicals.  My snap
judgment:  you can do valuable synthesis.  There is work
coming out every week about plant responses to the worlds
around them, but very, very little that is published em-
beds these results in a larger framework of understanding.
Good luck.
-- 

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From: richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter)
Subject: Re: Medicinal plants to grow???
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:21:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.102555.1976@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> lso@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>I have a friend that is moving to Costa Rica.  He has grown ornamental
>plants for many years but would like to try and grow plants that could
>be used for medicinal purposes.  He would like to know where to get help.
>His questions include: what types of plants should he grow now and which
>ones are in demand?
>He has the ability to grow many different species but he wuld like any
>information
>on the culture of digitalis and others.

Unfortunately, there is no one source for detailed cultural information for 
medicinal crops, but we may be able to provide some.  As a start, we 
recommend two books which deal with commercial cultivation and marketing.  
They certainly not exhaustive or even very up-to-date, but they do help to 
get the prospective grower oriented on relevant production and marketing 
issues.  The books are: 

     _Culinary & Medicinal Herbs_ put out by the British Ministry of 
      Agriculture, softcover, 70 pp.  Available from us at $16 (Canadian 
      funds, plus postage and handling) 

and 

     _The Potential of Herbs as a Cash Crop_ by Richard Miller, softcover, 
      230 pp.  $24 from us. 

After your friend has studied these, we can provide more detailed information 
from our extensive data file.  

Conrad Richter 

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From: MCCAINKW@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU (Kate McCain)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: alt.PhD
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:30:46 GMT
Distribution: bionet

Well yes -- one does get discouraged.  In a former life, when I was a
practicing biologist, I discovered that I was a 19th century biologist in a
20th century world -- particularly with respect to emphasis on benchwork and
funding. (Actually, I wanted to be a field geologist, but this was 25 years
ago and my uncle told me -- no-- there is no place for women in field geology.
You will have to be a micropaleontologist and spend your time sitting at a
desk looking at small colonial encrusting animals under a microscope. So I
became a biologist -- MS in marine biology -- focus on bryozoans -- and spent
part of my time sitting at a desk looking through a microscope ...)  I
loathed the idea of grant getting (still do and am not good at it, either) and
also was uncomfortable with the fast-paced, competitive atmosphere I
encountered in the fundable areas of biomedicine. So I drifted a few years,
sans PhD.  Other correspondents are right -- it's hard to get "respect."

However

There _are_ alternatives with or without the microbiology PhD in my current
field -- library & information science/information studies/information systems.
I drifted into this as a result of a "spouse job" (getting something where my
spouse was) -- in this case, running the Biology Library at Temple University
after two years of adjunct teaching in the biology department at the College
of Staten Island. I found myself interested in information needs, information
seeking behavior, information use of _biologists_ and encountered
1) bibliometrics as a way of doing "natural history of literatures" or
perhaps quantitative history of science and 2) the College of Information
Studies at Drexel here in Philly as a place I could do it. I did a PhD in
4 years (entered post-masters).

Cut to the chase.  I am currently a tenured associate professor who loves
her teaching, can do lots of interesting research that _doesn't_ need high
levels of funding and gets to spend time hanging out with biologists (I
have worked in/on several areas of genetics, marine sciences, earth sciences,
neural networks). There are a wealth of opportunities out there for
bioscientists concerned with information organization/access/management of
biological data -- design of information systems, etc. If you don't believe
me just catch the threads on bio-info. [I was interested in the thread on
women vs computers -- half of our information systems faculty here in CIS are
women and the proportion has been higher.]  If you have strong social or
historical concerns, there are also programs in Science, Technology & Society
that would welcome a knowledgeable scientist.

I'm not trying to put down the PhD in biology -- just showing that there are
ways of combining the interests that brought you _into_ the field with some
that you might not have thought of.

Kate McCain                            "bibliometrics R us"
Associate Professor
College of Information Studies
Drexel University
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: kominos@JKDEC.ROCKEFELLER.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Deciding for/against a Ph.D.
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:50:03 GMT
Distribution: bionet


Hi -

I have my Ph.D. for a year and a half.  I really look at it as one of
the greatest accomplishments I've made.  There were many times when 
my graduate advisor and I never saw eye-to-eye, I didn't feel I was
making any progress and I just wanted to punt it all.  I stayed and
finished my Ph.D. and learned a great deal.  I really enjoyed what I
was doing (molecular modelling on proteins), but decided to try and
learn X-ray crystallography in order to solve protein structures.  My 
post-doc has taught me a great deal.  For one thing, I've gained a 
great deal of training in experimental techniques.  Another thing it's
taught me is to watch my back.  I find this very disheartening especially
after going through my Ph.D.  My options now are to a) find another
post-doc or b) try to find an job in industry (which is what I would like).

I have another post-doc lined up and it seems like a good position.  I think
it would be very rewarding - problem - the location.  It's 220 miles
away from my husband and home.  Industry jobs are few and far between.
It's amazing to me that when I first went to graduate school the norm
was maybe having 2 years post-doctoral experience.  Now, people have
2 to 3 postdocs and still can't make it.

I'm very discouraged at this point, as you can tell.  Science isn't fun
anymore because you have to work 20 hours a day to keep up with the
other people in your field in order to get funding !!! I won't even
go into the politics that I have been involved in !!! There is a network of
young discouraged scientists called the younger scientists network.  Most
of the people on the network have Ph.D.'s and many of them are unemployed
or underemployed.  

I'm probably not the best person to encourage you to continue your Ph.D. 
research.  I found getting my Ph.D. extremely self-fulfilling.  I guess
you have to find it in yourself and do what's right for you.  

My husband works in a pharmaceutical company.  If you were to ask him, the
job prospects for people with master's degrees are infinitely better than
for Ph.D.'s right now.  However, you WILL NOT get the same opportunities
with an M.S. as you will have with a Ph.D.  

Don't let your current situation discourage you either.  I've known people
who have switched fields and are currently quite happy with their new
advisors and research projects.  

Another myth - you have to work hard, but I prescribe to the adage:
"Work smarter, not harder".  Many times I would be stuck writing some
code and not knowing why I was getting a number of errors.  I would
drive home and on the way home it would hit me.  Being at Rockefeller, 
I've seen people plod along working 18 hours a day on research projects.
I made a suggestion on one project in Nov. 91.  Well, in April '92 they
finally took my suggestion and guess what, it worked.  Sometimes a few
hours of thinking is worth hundreds in the lab.  Don't let anyone tell you
that you must give up everything to be a scientist.  It's simply NOT TRUE.

Good luck,
Dorothea Kominos
From: ah690549@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Annette C. Hollmann)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: Getting women to use computers
Date: 12 Dec 1992 04:50:25 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec3.224639.19678@news.columbia.edu> dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
>
>   One problem that often comes to mind is how to get more female biologists
>interested in computers and networks. 
>   I believe that biologists in general have a slight aversion to computers.
>That has been my experience. I also think that women in general have a not
>so slight aversion to computers.

my foot!

actually, the guys are hacking around on the computer when they
should be doing some work. Usually they are playing. When it actually
comes down to using something functional like GCG they are more
clueless than the women.

 Putting those together, and you have a real >problem
for the net. >
>   It seems to me that the male students here are much more likely to have
>interst and experience in computers. The females don't seem to have any
>interest until they need to send e-mail to someone, or have a gene they
>want to analyse; and very often they get a male member of the lab to do it
>for them.
>
>   Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
>DanZ
>
If I didn't have a computer and modem at home I could be posting this
because I wouldn't have time. During the day I'm too busy making sure I
don't blow up the TLE unit. As far as knowing how to use a computer is
concerned - I have had to show lots of guys how to use simple stuff like
commercial software.

Annette
ah690549@mbcr,bcm.tmc.edu
From: dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: % women computer users
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:51:49 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: bionet
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1g84pdINN237@agate.berkeley.edu> lmk2@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>I agree.  It seems everyone is just spewing their personal experiences.
>Almost every single one of my female friends is computer literate and
>enjoys computers.  They are mostly younger (<45) and mostly involved
>in the computer industry or science in some way.  Everyone has her/his
>own biased sample from which to draw conclusions.
>

Actually, there has been some academic discussion about why women don't
appear very often on the net. I just recently sat on our University's
Task Force on Appropriate Use of Information Technology (an ad hoc
set up to determine whether the UBC President's banning of the alt.sex.*
hierarchy was justified or not), and we spent some time discussing the
idea that if the net were more representational of society as a whole
(more women, more Arts and Humanities people, etc.) many of the
problems with sexist language etc. would vanish.

      :=:=> Derek K. Miller                 dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca
      Researcher, Alma Mater Society        thegrodd@tz.ucs.sfu.ca
      University of British Columbia, Canada


Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: graeme@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (Graeme)
Subject: Re: Getting women to use computers
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:10:08 GMT

ah690549@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Annette C. Hollmann) writes:

>In article <1992Dec3.224639.19678@news.columbia.edu> dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
>>
>>   One problem that often comes to mind is how to get more female biologists
>>interested in computers and networks. 
>>That has been my experience. I also think that women in general have a not
>>so slight aversion to computers.

>my foot!

(deleted bits)

>Annette
>ah690549@mbcr,bcm.tmc.edu

Maybe to alter the thread here slightly,
preferences for using the computer and/or indulging in inter-personal
communication may be a relevent factor;
some have suggested that differing spatial ability and mathematical 
reasoning abilities between the sexes may be a factor.
An interesting article has appeared in the September 92 Scientific 
American (p. 80) on these latter points. (It compared results from
high and low testosterone males & females, interesting).
Graeme.


Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: diqui@pathogen.med.umn.edu (Diqui LaPenta)
Subject: deciding *against* a Ph.D.
Summary: Now what? 
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:11:39 GMT

I'm facing a serious decision regarding the direction of my scientific career.
I am in the 4th year of my Ph.D. program in microbiology, and I have battled
a terrible lack of motivation for the last 1 1/2 years.  It has been bad enough
for my adviser to threaten to discontinue financial support if my productivity
did not improve.  My problem is not my adviser or even my project.  My problem
is that the very thought of getting my Ph.D. only to devote my lilfe to sitting
at a lab bench and wrestling for  grant funding has become truly depressing. I
have discovered, at this late juncture, that I am not well-suited to bench work. During a long, soul-searching discussion with my adviser, we devised a short 
term plan.  For the next academic quarter, I will somehow devote all my energies to my research.  At the end of that time, I can continue in the Ph.D. program
if: 1)I have demonstrated increased productiviy and motivation and
    2)there's funding for my project

If not, I can write up what I've got for a Master's Degree or take a leave of absence.  I'm comfortable with these options, but I'm left wondering what to do
with myself in *any* of these situations.  I'm posting here in the hope that
someone either has had a similar experience or can offer some suggestions on howto creatively use a B.S. in Biology and an MS in Microbiology (or Ph.D. in
Micro, if  I make it that far).

I suppose it would be beneficial to any others with the same dilemma to post
responses, but you can also reply to me via e-mail at:

			diqui@lenti.med.umn.edu

Thanks in advance for any suggestions and feedback,

Diqui La Penta

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