Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:29:55 EDT
From: <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: National Health Care
 <1992Aug25.120451.7063@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> <5140@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

In article <5140@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) says:
>
>In article <1992Aug25.120451.7063@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
>golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>
>>In Canada, I can go to any doctor I choose, and they give me great
>>attentive service, since they want me to come back, and since they
>>don't have to worry about whether I can pay or not.  Since they
>>don't have to worry about my ability to pay, all they have to worry
>>about is my health.   They don't have millions of forms from thousands
>>of different insurers to worry about, but one set of forms from a
>>single insurance payer, where fees are negotiated collectively by
>>the doctors with the insurer, who happens to be the government.
>>
>
>You know it's funny Gerald but I just finished reading an article in
>September's Reader's Digest about the Canadian system and not everyone

Always my choice for reliable information with no editorial bias, whatsoever.
I think if you'll look back at Gary Dare's posts he has already exposed the
numerous lies in this article.

>they quote is as thrilled as you are with the system.  Not the families
>that have seen people die because urgent care was unavailable when needed,
>not the 8300+ doctors that have left Canada to practice in the U.S. and
>certainly not the people waiting in line for a service only to be bumped
>back when some politician jumped line.

And what about the American uninsured?  There was just an article in my
local paper the other day about a woman who delayed seeking medical care
when her husband lost his job.  She developed cancer and by the time she
went for treatment it was too late.  Despite our wonderful technology she
died.  People DIE in all health care systems.  What's your point?


>It's a very interesting article and one of the things they mention is
>the difference in levels of satisfaction with the system between those
>people that think they have free services waiting for them but never
>actually used them and those people that have actually counted on the

This is a joke, right?  Do you really think that using health care is
so uncommon that only 10-20 percent of the Canadian population uses it?
Give me a break.  Use your own mind for once, and stop relying on Reader's
Digest to do your thinking.  If the Canadian system is as bad as RD says
why do so many Canadians (I'll venture a guess that every Canadian has
used health care services or knows a close friend who did in the last
10 years) love it.

>system to tend to their medical problems and came away less than happy.
>
>So just out of curiosity Gerald what serious medical condition did the
>capable and "free" Canadian system resolve for you?  Or are you just one
>of those people repeating government quotes because you assumed the system
>would work as they claimed, should you ever need it?





Dennis G. Shea, Penn State
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