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From: blaine@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Greyland Blaine Mull)
Subject: Purchase Classic II
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:33:21 GMT


hello world\n

	Well, I guess it is about time - I might as well break down and
buy a NEW mac.  No seriously, I am thinking about purchasing a classic
II since with my edu discount, the price is ridiculously low.
Previously, I have only owned 512's and pluses, so this would be a real
improvement for me.  I would like to run Quicktime, it this possible on
a classic II? - I know I can't run color, but is there any products that
possible might let you dither the 9" display so as to display shades of
gray ( I know this can be done with an SE/30)?  
	I am aware of all the pros and cons of the classic II vs. say an
SE/30, but with the price of the classic II under $1K I think this
outweighs the SE/30 in value.  I only want a computer to do the basic WP
and spreadsheet, math, etc.  Also, it will be hooked to the campus
appletalk network, which is quite large here and I also can store data
(up to 250meg) on some remote user space which is frequently unused ^_^

	I understand that the classic II will probably be discontinued
sometime before Christmas, but that's OK with me - The 512ke still runs
current apps and it is 7 yrs old!

	Any input on the classic II/Quicktime/tips, etc appreciated

-grey

 Grey Mull	       +Disclamer:  I didn't say it,-+  Macintosh
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From: isako@mtl.mit.edu (Isako Hoshino)
Subject: NEC CDR-74 good buy?
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:48:06 GMT

I am thinking about purchasing a CD-ROM drive.  I looked at a MacWorld
review, and it stated that NEC's  CDR-74 is a good one to buy.  I saw
an ad for mid-$500 for this machine.

Is CDR-74 worth what the review states?  Is it reliable?  Any known
problems?  Any comments by user is welcome.  Please assume I know very
little about CD-ROMs (other than what was stated on the MacWorld
article...)

Thanks in advance!

					Isako
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: Apple Press Release - Announcing Performa line of computers
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.163408.26460@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> sloderb@iris1.sb.fsu.edu (Mike Sloderbeck) writes:
>In article <72389@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) writes:
>>>Also, can anyone speculate on whether the 600 could run A/UX?
>>No.
>Is this "No, nobody can speculate." or "No, A/UX won't run." :)
>Seriously, is it that that Apple won't sell/support A/UX on a Performa 600
>or does A/UX simply not work? Could someone tell or hint at the
>reason that A/UX would not run.
>I don't care to try A/UX on a Performa 600, but if it doesn't work, 
>I suspect other features waiting to bite me in the dark!
>Mike Sloderbeck, FSU Structural Biology
>sloderb@sb.fsu.edu
>904-644-3528 (voice)   904-657-8252 (digital pager)
   <<blank lines above stripped>>
A/UX appears to ship on its own schedule, and it tends to support whatever
is available at the time that version of A/UX ships.  IIsi support came
about when 2.0.1 shipped, and Quadra support was available when 3.0 shipped.
3.0 shipped around 6 months after the Quadra.  The reasonable conclusion is
that the box has the needed pieces (MMU by default with the 68030 and the
68882), so the choice will probably by marketing driven rather than technically
driven, and if marketing says "OK" it probably wont be available until the
next scheduled release of A/UX.

Now if only they could get it running on the PowerBook 170 with one of
those aftermarket active matrix color displays (and I won the lottery)
:-> :-> :->   -Steve
From: firenza@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Info on 40-80 Meg Hardrives wanted
Date: 11 Sep 1992 06:14:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

  I am going to upgrade my internal hard drive soon and was wondering if anyone
had any comments on drives in the 40-80 Meg range.  I currently have an '87
vintage SE with the original 20 Meg Miniscribe hard drive.  That used to be OK,
but I have since installed an accelerator card and now the drive is holding 
things up.  

firenza@wpi.wpi.edu
From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 4 MB to 10 MB Mac Classic II?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:44:21 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Okay, perhaps this is an FAQ, but I haven't seen anything about it yet.  I 
own a Mac Classic II.  Right now it has 4 MB of RAM, but I would like to 
upgrade it to 10 MB as I have been told it can be.  My question is, and I 
am well aware of how stupid this will sound to the informed, HOW do I 
upgrade it to 10 MB?  I would assume it has 4 chip slots, which are full.  
Do I replace a 1 MB chip with a 4 MB or something?

Help me please....

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
         "On rare occaisions I find a little meaning in my life,
                      and wonder how it got there..."

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From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: CDROM File Sharing?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:11:42 GMT

Can a CD-ROM be shared via Personal AppleShare?  Whenever
I try to share a CD-ROM, I get the message; "One or more
items could not be shared, because not all volumes are
available for sharing".

I assume that this is related to the volume being 
read only (?).

Thanks, John
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From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PERFORA 200, 400, MONITOR
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:40:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wegwBkO00VpaI5kZpU
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

from what I have heard
system 7.10P = 6.08J
which is to say, that the system for the Performas is an improved
version of system 6.07, with some nifty sys7 like features.

There are 2 monitors for the Performa, the standard and the 'plus'
neither are as good as the AppleColor RGB monitor (the regular 13"
monitor) though both are cheaper.  As I recall the lesser one is
really lame, with a dot pitch I wouldn't accept on anything, while the
better one has the same dot pitch that the RGB has, but isn't a
Trinitron picture tube.

As for the models themselves, as noted the 200 and 400 are really the
classic II and the LC II in disguise, while the 600 is an 030/32 with
or without a cd player, but no built in cache and no math coprocessor
- so basically a CI is both faster and better.  The 600 can accept a
cache card, but they aren't out yet, but the performa can't accept a
PD upgrade like the rest of the II's can (si?).  The VI and VX will be
more like the CI in this respect, but wont' be able to run earlier
systems, and do have some other incompatibilities.
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From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: PowerBook Security/PB100
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:51:06 GMT

In article <87819@netnews.upenn.edu> kaplan@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu (Peter Kaplan -Yodh) writes:
>I'm looking for a simple to use security device for a PowerBook 100.  Not
>something to stop a professional with tools, just something to delete temptation
>from otherwise honest folks with slightly sticky fingers.
>
>There was a brief review of one system in MacWorld.  If anyone has used
>it, I would appreciate comments/mail order sources.
>
>I tried buying the PowerLock manufactured by a company called CMG(?).  It
>looked OK at first, but was too large for the PB100, and the spacer it came with
>was too small to compensate.  This could be just a quality-control error.
>The store manager couldn't make it work either and he eventually pulled them
>from the shelves when he convinced himself that they really didn't fit.
>
There is a product that you can get from Mac Warehouse called a CableSafe.
It costs $38 and consists of a metal bracket, a cable and a brass padlock.

You remove 2 screws from the bottom of a PB140,70 or 3 screws from the
bottom of a PB100, and using supplied screws, attach the bracket. It
is hinged in such a way that prevents removal of the screws while the
cable and padlock are attached. I used one on a PB170 before I sold it
and have used it on my PB100.

As it adds about a pound of weight, I don't attach it unless I fly to 
another city on business. It is very easy to take on and off.

You do have to extend the folding feet to keep the metal from scratching
the table.

A company called Security Concepts out of Santa Monica, CA makes the
Cable Safe, but they primarily sell through MacWarehouse.

I am merely a satisfed customer.

Regards,
Tom Karches
karches@utdallas.edu
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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Magic MO and SCSI problems 
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 17:05:23 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Sep7.003513.1291@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> lari@robotics.berkeley.edu 	 writes:
>
>disk at SCSI address 0, but starting from a floppy is also impossible. 
>The hard disk is making some noise, then everything 
>that appear is the little floppy with 0? flashing. 
>I tried everything. It cannot be the termination or the cable, because I 
>try to put on the MO instead of the CD-ROM, with the same cable and
>termination 

It could still be termination-- for instance, the MO could be
internally terminated.

But it sounds like it could also be that the SCSI address is 0--
perhaps the cable that connects to the SCSI ID switch and to the
jumper area on the drive has fallen off.

-- 
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From: cld@genii.com (Chuck DuBois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Enough! Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:26:53 EST
Organization: Genesee Optics Software, Inc.
Reply-To: cld@genii.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <1992Sep1.101533.16310@newstand.syr.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware,
comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system), isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu
(Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:
> 
> Well, just an interesting question...
> Are those of you who are wanting MODE32 to be an Apple product the
> same whiners and crybabies who go on and on about how Apple charges
> too much for their hardware, compared to cloners who  simply
> license Phoenix BIOS and tell who to run messydos?
> 
> --
> Mike_Schechter@isr.syr.edu | XLII,B,+3dB,Non-Nak | Make Tapes, Not War
> 

I think it's time to call it quits for this thread.  The above message
proves that all relevant discussion has obviously been covered.

To summarize, MODE32 is not (yet) integrated elegantly into System 7.1.
Apple's own (new) guidelines would seem to suggest that this should be
a "System Enabler".  I do tend to agree with this line of reasoning.

However, I will be happy if it is thoughtfully included in the standard
installer installation scripts when 7.1 goes final.  That would show
enough support to me, as it shows that the configuration is officially
supported.

The final word is for those who think MODE32 should not be included in
the standard installation (due to the HUGE amount of space that it takes
up -- NOT).  Why are you not offended by utilities like Battery, Cache
Control, and Caps Lock?

Discussion over.

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From: bach@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Michael Bach)
Subject: Re: Sound is really blecherous (or I'm an idiot)
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Distribution: global
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:29:13 GMT

Loading the wavetable with a sinusoidal waveform: Did
you use Pascal and forgot to define the array as "packed byte"?
I made that mistake several times. Forgetting packed leads to
a strange data type. I have no trouble getting the sound manager
to produce the required waveform on pb100, LC or ci. If you are
interested, I can send you complete sample source code.
Hope this helps, Michael.
-- 
Dr. Michael Bach, Dept. of Ophthalmogy,
University of Freiburg, D-7800 Freiburg, Germany
From: coolidge@sirius.aux.apple.com (John L. Coolidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple Press Release - Announcing Performa line of computers
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: coolidge@apple.com
Organization: Open Systems Development - Desktop OS Group, Apple Computer, Inc.

tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) writes:
>>     Starting from the time a user first turns on their new Macintosh
>> Performa, optimized system software is there to help.  For example, a
>> new program called Launcher makes it easier for users to find and
>> launch their preinstalled applications.  And, when a user saves a
>> document in an application, it can always be found in a documents
>> folder located on the Desktop.  In addition, Apple's recently
>> introduced At Ease software is bundled with every Performa.  At Ease
>> is the best way for users to easily protect applications and
>> information while sharing their computer with other family members.

>Does anyone know if this stuff can be overridden?  I imagine that it 
>would get rather annoying to always have all your documents in the
>same folder after a while, for example.

While I have no actual knowledge here (:-)), I suspect strongly that
it can be overridden. Apple wants to make the machines easier for
beginners, not cripple them for long-term users.

>Also, can anyone speculate on whether the 600 could run A/UX?

It doesn't have an FPU, so it can't. I suspect that even with an FPU
it couldn't run A/UX, since it's a new CPU and A/UX is pretty picky as
to which CPUs it will run on.

--John

	The wages of sin are death, but the benefits include dental,
	major medical, two week paid vacation, pension fund, and stock
	options. Actually, taken as a package, it's a rather
	attractive deal.
		-- found in RumorMonger

+++John L. Coolidge++++++++++++++++coolidge@apple.com+++++++++++++++++++++++
I speak for myself, not for Apple Computer. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed, and if all copies may be further copied.
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Disadvantages of System 7 (Was: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:00:16 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

>A Mac Plus running System 5 and Word 3.02 was more than adequate back then;
is >it any less adequate for doing the same work today, just because SystemS> 
7 and >Word 5 are out now? Nope. 
S> Using this same logic we would all, or at least most of us 
S> would be, still using System 1.0 and MacWrite. It worked. 

And undoubtedly some people are still using such a setup, because it's what
they have, it's what works, and they have no desire to move up--yet.

But you take it to extremes.  My point was, there's no need to rush out and
upgrade to the latest and greatest just because.  And many people feel that
way.  You'll find many people still running Sys6 and Word 4, and they'd give
you a strange look when you ask them why they haven't upgraded to Sys7 and/or
Word 5.  Eventually they will decide that later software gives them something
they need; but until then, upgrading would be done solely for the sake of
doing so, and that generally is unproductive.

Some people don't feel comfortable unless they're at the absolute bleeding
edge of technology.  That's fine.  Some people, though, would rather wear
their computer setup like an old shoe that fits just right.  That's fine, too.
 Neither side should bother the other based on "you're not doing it _my_ way,
therefore you're wrong."

--Adam--
 
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From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Daystar Powercache (need info...)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:59:37 GMT

In article <15990.2AAE8B94@zeus.ieee.org> Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:
>With the price reduction, a 50 Mhz one with math. co-processor can be bought
>for $1200-1300 from a few mail order places. I hope your dealer is not going
>to charge you $2,000 for it.
>
>Besides that, I am also interested in any feedback from users of the
>Powercache.

I just ordered the 50mhz PowerCache without math coprocessor for my LC II
last night from MacWarehouse for $1242 (including adaptor and overnight
shipping.  The IIci doesn't need an adaptor which would save $39). It
should be arriving any minute.  Mac's Place had a better price in the
latest MacUser ad (a little better on the one without coprocessor, but
significantly better on the one with coprocessor), but I live in the same
state so I would have had to pay 8.2% sales tax (The Mac Zone is also in
my state.  Ugh!) With all the discussion lately about mail-order ripoffs,
I wanted to go with a place I knew was reputable.

Daystar has a special upgrade offer to their 33mhz 68040 PowerCache which
is coming out soon.  It's $99 if you're coming from a 50mhz '030 with
coprocessor, and $399 if you're coming from a 50mhz '030 without
coprocessor.  This only applies if you bought the 50mhz '030 after August
1.  The normal upgrade path (difference in retail price) will be an
additional $300.

I got the PowerCache without a math coprocessor for two reasons:

(1) very few applications use the coprocessor.  Apparently even spread-
    sheet programs ignore the coprocessor except for certain functions
    (trig functions, for example).  Look at the latest MacUser and
    you'll see that the PowerBook 145 and 170 were virtually identical in
    Excel recalcs, even though the 170 has a coprocessor and the 145 doesn't
    (my own experience mirrors this.  I originally got a DayStar PowerMath
    (16mhz math coprocessor only) for my LC II to speed up Excel recalcs
    (I keep my checkbook, budget, credit cards, etc. in linked Excel
    spreadsheets).  The coprocessor didn't make one whit of difference.

(2) In my case, there was an exactly $300 difference in price between the
    PowerCache with coprocessor and without.  Since the price to upgrade to
    the '040 is exactly $300 different as well, the final cost will be the
    same (and it's easier to swallow $1242 now and $399 later, rather than
    $1542 now and $99 later).  If you know you're going to upgrade, and
    you can get the 50mhz with coprocessor for less than $300 more, you
    could save a few bucks.


As soon as I've got my PowerCache installed, I'll test it out and fill in
the net.  Naturally I'll post those all-important Speedometer numbers :-)


--
Steve Kanefsky
From: taylor4@husc8.harvard.edu (Edwin Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 2fx SCSI
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:35:05 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

hi
ive had a mac 2fx for several years now (it was one of the first delivered
to the school).  for the first time i've added an external SCSI device -
a tape backup unit.  i'm using the 2fx terminator, but get flakey performace
out of the tape drive (many unexplainable errors -- things that neither 
the tape drive manufacturer nor the backup program's manufacturer can
explain).

is there some general problem with 2fx external SCSI ports?

any response would prevent more hours of frustration.

thanks
e j taylor
taylor4@husc.harvard.edu
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From: mead@hamal.usc.edu (Dick Mead)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: cheap powerbook 100's
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:22:22 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamal.usc.edu

rharmon@highz.as.arizona.edu (Robin Harmon (ircamera)) writes:

>In <duff.715974918@starbase> Dave Duff says that Micro Age and Micro Center
>in Virginia have PB 100 2/20's fr sale. Does anyone know if they
>supply out of state by credit card and if so what are their phone numbers?

>Robin Harmon



Micro Center does not, according to the salescritter I spoke with.

Dick

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From: PHEACOCK@utmmg.med.uth.tmc.edu (Philip Heacock)
Subject: 13 Inch RGB Monitor Problem
Organization: UT MEDICAL SCHOOL AT HOUSTON
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:32:28 GMT
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     Yesterday my Apple 13" RGB monitor developed a white 
stripe down the left side of the screen.  The stripe is in the non-
used black area.  Does anyone know anything about this kind of 
problem?  Should a dealer look into it or replace the monitor it 
is still under warranty, 2 mo. old).

Thanks for your help,
Philip Heacock

UT doesn't think for me and I don't speak for them.
From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Strange Tone Sequence During Startup.
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:41:00 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:

>I had this problem a week ago and tried all the above except cleaning
>the SIMMS. I took it to a dealer for repair. They were about to give
>up and go for a logic board replacement (yike!) when the technician
>noticed that the problem had disappeared. This was after he cleaned
>the SIMM contacts. I paid about $70 for something I could have done
>myself, but on the other hand, I'm just glad it wasn't something more
>$eriou$.

Bad news. A week later, I started getting the same problem. I tried
cleaning the SIMMS myself with a pencil eraser to no avail. I guess
I'll have to bring it back in :-(

-Ralph

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