HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:31:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.203129.26067
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <c2Fx03hvbbTp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>This is great.  The same people who don't like being judged based solely
>on their looks are now judging someone based solely on what is hanging
>on his wall.  Yeah, yeah, I know; what *you're* doing is difference
>because you're claiming to judge "personality" while those evil men
>are merely judging physical attributes.

	Big difference in my book.

	It may not be in yours, but then again, I don't want to hang around
folks who don't find a big difference there....



-- 
	"I got into theatre originally to pick up girls. Unfortunately, all I
found were women..."
e-mail:  gwangung@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
From: leung@osric.cs.odu.edu (Michael K Leung)
Subject: Re: Cindy cc051.gif (2/7)
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:40:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.132828.1379@msdhsv.ingr.com> rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com writes:
>Could someone repost or e-mail part 1 to me?  We didn't seem to get it 
>here...
>
>Chris Hudson
>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I did *what*?  Sorry, but you've got the wrong guy........
>                                                          Save the Sharks!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

	***WHAT***  Has the cc051.gif-the famous cindy posted 
already?  I didn't see any part of it here.  Can someone repost
or e-mail the to me (all parts)?  

Thanks for any help.

	--Smiles--

-- Mike
-- leung@hurricane.cs.odu.edu



Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: smode@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sarah Nelson)
Subject: Stats on Supermodels
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 00:20:25 GMT



Here are some stats taken from a German Fashion magazine
for Claudia Schiffer, Elle and Paulina.
Claudia Schiffer - Age 21, Height 1.8 meters and weight 58 kilograms
Elle             - Age 28, Height 1.83meters and weight 58 kilograms
Paulina          - Age 27, Height 1.79meters and weight 59 kilograms

The magazine has the other measurements but hey, Its in German!

BTW: does anyone know when Cindy Crawford was born?
From: kencham@centi.cs.umn.edu (Deepak Kenchammana-Hosekote)
Subject: Re: that's IT!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:13:19 GMT

In <1992Nov17.133542.1493@msdhsv.ingr.com> rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson) writes:

>Jennifer,

>I'm sorry to hear that some of the guys on this net feel the urge to act 
>in such an insulting, rude manner.  There is no excuse for sending mail to
>anyone, female or male, that is insulting, degrading, and crude.  I've also 
>gotten rude responses from people who disagreed with my posts.  There's just 
>no excuse for it.

>Hope you can nail the jerks!

>Chris Hudson 

Hey Chris,

Mind sending that to Jennifer on email and NOT posting it on the net ?

Peace !

\thee puck
--
A Kenchammana-Hosekotan yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jgn@homebrew.bellcore.com (Joseph G. Niederberger)
Subject: Re: Brains of Models
Keywords: beauty and brains
Reply-To: jgn@homebrew.UUCP (Joseph G. Niederberger)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:15:11 GMT

In article <92Nov14.174551.28725@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:

>I've started to work regularly with models, since I'm trying to
>break into the fashion and beauty photography business, and I
>find that a great many of the beautiful young women that I do
>photograph are in fact quite intelligent, perhaps not in a very
>specific, technical sense, but in a general sense. Those of you
>in the group who do not know or work with models on a regular
>basis had better rethink some unfair, stereotypical assumptions.

Here here!  Actually, by amazing coincidence, I find that average
everyday people that I meet "on the street" turn out quite often to
be, in fact, perfectly intelligent.  Why is it that so many otherwise
"intelligent" people think that their intelligence is some great
rarity?

>Maybe it's just a statistically freak occurrence. Maybe I'm just
>lucky.

I think you are just open-minded to the natural intelligence that
most people (in your case, young beautiful women) posess.

Cheers,

Joe N.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:51:26 EST
From: <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual harassment on the net??
 <c1=I03z3bbsI00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <NML.92Nov17203930@csa.bu.edu>
 <15XJ0352bcc600@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>

Thanks James Preston even if you do think I'm slime.  I would like
to reiterate that my post to Jenny was by no means, at least to rational
peop, meant to be "sexually harrassing".  What ticks me off is that
I did not get to explain my side of the story before ya guys started
to pout and labeling me as a "sexual harrasser".  Okay, you got me...when
I get finished harrassing girls on the net, I pick up the phone continue where
I left off, and if that doesn't satisfy me, I go upstairs (I live in a coed
dorm) where the girls reside and leave messages on the doors such as "Vote for
Bill Clinton" and other such filthy disgusting remarks.  I deserve to be
condemned from the human race.....


                 ===---da-Long-man---->  Bye Bye
From: wagner@bartok.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual Harassment
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:32:38 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <billie.722046592@camelot> billie@camelot.bradley.edu (Eliot Frick) writes:
>
>harassment" has digressed to it's current state.  Having been accused of
>sexual harassment, for what I thought was harmless flirting (I asked a girl
>to kiss me,) 

Methinks this be not the whole story?  What details are you
*not* telling us?  Did you know this woman well?  Had she
indicated to you that she was interested in being kissed
(by you)?  I'm not arguing, just curious.

>             I know the lengths that people will go to sequester their
>sexuality from the rest of the world.  I have a real problem with accusing

What the heck do you mean by "sequester their sexuality from the 
whole world"?  This would imply to me that a person's sexuality
is somehow accessible to the whole world, and they must take 
action to deny such access?  That's what I understand by 
"sequester".  For example, we speak of sequestering a jury.  We
mean that we take people who would generally be out and running
around in the world and put them in the unnatural state of 
being in-accessible for a short period of time.   In general,
I would think that most people would feel that sexuality is
somehow private, and the the action is to chose to share it or
not share it with another individual.  The use of sequester 
seems to imply the opposite,that sexuality is somehow public
unless the action of making it private takes place.  Am I 
reading you correctly? Is this what you mean?

I am not arguing for/against your story-- it intrigues me.

I will suggest a standard test for "sexual harassment" that
I claim is foolproof (for straight men).  I call it the
Wagner test (just out of humility), and it's never been
published.  "If a gay man who was much bigger than you engaged 
in the same activity you engaged in w/regard to this woman, 
would it make you feel uncomfortable?"  If the answer is
yes, then the action is sexual harassment.

This test was actually dreamed up to help a friend understand 
why saying "Nice butt, babe!" to a woman might make her feel 
uncomfortable.  The friend decided that a much larger gay man 
coming up to him, looking at his butt and saying, "Nice butt, 
babe!" would make him feel uncomfortable.

The reason for making the other man *much* bigger is that
most women feel some physical intimidation from men.  The
reason for suggesting that the other man be gay is that 
then you would have to judge his statement as coming from
someone who might want to have sex with you-- which is
the situation women often find themselves in.

So my other question for you.  If a much bigger gay man
asked you for a kiss in the same situation and manner
you asked this lady for a kiss, would you feel 
uncomfortable?

Hope you tell us more about what happened.

Mike




Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: okay okay i'm loved!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:46:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Some of us is scum some of is ain't!

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: THE 5 MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IN THE UNIVERSE
Keywords: yeah, right
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:49:05 GMT

In <BxuFD0.2wA@access.digex.com> hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:

>In article <92Nov15.090738.29838@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov15.043101.8648@nmsu.edu> mespinos@kirk.NMSU.Edu (Michael C Espinosa) writes:
>>
>>>here it is..
>>>
>>>1.  Sharon Stone
>>>2.  Sherilyn Fenn
>>>3.  Kathy Ireland
>>>4.  Samantha Sims
>>>5.  Tara from my Psychology Class
>>>
>>>nuff said
>>
>>*chuckle*
>>
>>So, have ya asked Tara out yet? I also know a Tara, whom I've
>>photographed, and her basic facial shape is the same as Kathy
>>Ireland's (squarish, with a well-defined jawline). A real babe,
>>and she's in her first year of university at my campus, too.
>>
>>Victor 8^)

>Growllll... I LOVE Kathy Ireland's face.  That jawline *is* stunning.
>One of her best features.  So Tara may be a babe but is she Suuup-er
>Model material?  And does she have the brains to match the looks?

>- Dark Hacker

You should take a picture of her (w. her permission, of course), get it 
scanned, and post it!  Assuming, of course, she is really that hot!
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Calendars and Brains
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:23:37 GMT

In article <92Nov19.171655.18822@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca  
(Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
> Most Americans have probably never even heard of Cindy Crawford,
> and mainstream USA is really not represented by the cultural and
> intellectual snobs who study at Columbia or other institutions of
> "higher" learning. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that *outside* of
> this newsgroup, most people probably couldn't care less who the
> hell is on the cover of Vogue or Elle -- they just want to pay
> their bills and cover the mortgage and put kids through school.
> 
> And buy a few nice clothes and "things," every now and then.
> 

Before I happily abstain from commenting any further on the drivel that  
preceded the above, let me state for the record that the latter claim is  
completely off the mark.  Maybe up in the frosty little world of Calgary,  
all is well-balanced (I doubt it), culturally speaking, but here in the  
good 'ole USA we've got Entertainment Tonight and other "news magazines"  
up the ass every night when the tube (to which statistics say most  
Americans glue themselves) goes on, so it's unlikely that your average  
red-blooded one is not going to know who Cindy Crawford is.  

I make no pretense about my personal knowledge of Canadian life, but I can  
safely say that residing in the city of New York (where I happen to work  
for the "elitist" institution called Columbia University) puts me a little  
closer to American culture than whatever it is that you're doing up  
yonder.

Your argument falls to pieces here.  You're out of touch.
From: corban_l@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise
Date: 19 Nov 1992 04:46:40 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: corban_l@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Nov18.175422.3033@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie) writes:
>Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Craig Andrew Humphrey) writes:
>
>>pictures for their PS/2 machines, to run as a backdrop under windoze.  Now the
>							      ^^^^^^^
>Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
>outside while you're indoors!  

:) You're kidding, right? please? you're sure you've *never* heard 
MS Windows refered to as "Windoze" because of it's less than blinding speed??

>>girls who work there have their own PS/2 running windoze 
>						  ^^^^^^^
>
>Once again, learn to spell...and get a life!

Ignorance is one thing, starting a flame over it is stupidity.
corban_l@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:12:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.203129.26067@u.washington.edu> gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
)In article <c2Fx03hvbbTp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
)>This is great.  The same people who don't like being judged based solely
)>on their looks are now judging someone based solely on what is hanging
)>on his wall.  Yeah, yeah, I know; what *you're* doing is difference
)>because you're claiming to judge "personality" while those evil men
)>are merely judging physical attributes.
)
)	Big difference in my book.
)
)	It may not be in yours, but then again, I don't want to hang around
)folks who don't find a big difference there....

Hmmm.  Well, personally I'd rather not avoid anyone on ideological grounds,
but rather let them avoid me if they don't like my taste in pictures, my
politics, the way I part my hair, or whatever.

I do feel somewhat uncomfortable about the 'lynch the guy with the poster'
attitude I'm seeing here, though.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From:  dean@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (Dean Collins)
Subject: Re: Brains of Models
Keywords: beauty and brains
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:19:52 GMT
Reply-To: dean@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (Dean Collins)
Distribution: na
X-Posted-From: clearwater.cs.uidaho.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Handsome David Chou writes:
|> Well, I don't think the equation beautiful = dumb is an iron law, but in
|> general, I've found that humans tend to be average overall, and if that
|> means you are very smart, another aspect of you (ie. looks) tends to suffer.
|> 
[stuff deleted for brevity]
|> 								-Dave

Him:  "Gee, you're beautiful."
Her:  "Are you calling me stupid?!"
--
(from the movie "The Quiet Earth" :-)


I disagree completly with this concept.  It's the whole "dumb blonde" thing
all over.  It is impossible to make assumptions about intelligence based on 
looks.
--
(Dashing :-) Dean
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:41:04 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:

}In article <c2Fx03hvbbTp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
}>This is great.  The same people who don't like being judged based solely
}>on their looks are now judging someone based solely on what is hanging
}>on his wall.  Yeah, yeah, I know; what *you're* doing is difference
}>because you're claiming to judge "personality" while those evil men
}>are merely judging physical attributes.

}	Big difference in my book.

Ok, so explain this difference.

--James Preston
From: ematias@explorer.dgp (Edgar Matias)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: ==da Long-Man--> Outta Here
Keywords: vermin
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:43:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto


> For all you readers who were wondering, the account from which the
> offensive E-mail to Jennifer was being sent has been closed while an
> investigation on her harassment is conducted.

I hope this means we can put this little soap opera to rest.  I mean,
it's getting pretty juvenile.  "da Long-man"?  Victor citing us
his monthly reading list?  Come on folks.  This is the Usenet; not some
kiddie board...

Edgar
-- 
Edgar Matias
Input Research Group
University of Toronto
--
I speak for no one...
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Subject: that's IT!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:40:11 GMT

Okay, I know this isn't the place for this, but I've got something to say.
I'm absolutely disgusted with the amounts of email I have been receiving
from guys saying "hey baby do me fuck fuck do me do me fuck do me." It's
incredibly rude and sexist. Most recently I was told that I was the first 
woman this guy had met on the net and that if I didn't write back, well 
I was to be classified as a "bitch." Well welcome yourSELF to reality
Mr. Asshole (and you know who you are). Most women are *not* bitches and
the certainly don't wish to be treated as such. It's no wonder you've never
met any women on the net. It's people like you who scare us away.

That is all. 
flame off

-Jennifer
From: cf542@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Julio Richard Laredo)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:37:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


But, she does need to have her teeth capped.

-- 
   BACH gave us God's Word........MOZART gave us God's Laughter
                  BEETHOVEN gave us God's Fire.
   GOD gave us Music that we might pray without words.
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Subject: Re: okay okay i'm loved!
Originator: jawiles@c00483-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:25:22 GMT


In article <osickey.722284288@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu>, osickey@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey) writes:
|> jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Okay you guys!! Okay! I know you all aren't a bunch of pot-slime. :)
|> > ---- Rest of Oscar speech deleted ... ------
|> >-Jennifer
|>    Retch, gag,....
|> 
|>    Now that we have completed our little love-in can we
|>    please talk about wonderfully beautiful women and whether
|>    or not GIFs ought to be posted to this group.

Agreed.  I think we can all go home on this now, although I must admit the 
reading was quite good!

|> kathy ireland is god.

NO, GODDESS :)_  Very much GODDESS :) :)


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From: allorja@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason M. Allor)
Subject: ellie gifs
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: alt.supermodels
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:43:07 GMT

I really, really love Ellie.  Unfortunately, I just got onto this newsgroup.
Could someone either post a lot of Ellie gifs or mail some to me??  That
would be great.  Thanks.

Ellie lives - brains or no.

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jgn@homebrew.bellcore.com (Joseph G. Niederberger)
Subject: Re: Something I don't understand (was Elle MacPherson ...)
Reply-To: jgn@homebrew.UUCP (Joseph G. Niederberger)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown, NJ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:37:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.114714.7356@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> maynard@tamar.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:

>My hypothesis (which I'm quite willing to change, if I'm presented with
>data which I find convincing) is that there are certain things in men that
>attract women, just like vice versa. They are dynamic things, rather than
>static, so you're not going to see them in photographs, but you may see
>them in 5minutes of video tape. These are things like charisma, wit and
>self-confidence, the things that Bruce Willis (in Moonlighting) or Harrison
>Ford (in most anything) exude. Because these qualities don't appear in
>still pictures, women aren't going to treat still pictures as men do.
>However the counterpart to still pictures, in presenting these
>ultra-desirable men is probably things like Harlequin romances.
>Anyway, I think that ultimately these qualities are just as shallow and
>silly for choosing a mate as judging a woman by her hair color, or the size
>of her breasts, but while most men and women would admit that the latter is
>stupid, fewer men and women would make this admission about the former.

I think Maynard is on to something--lets take it all the way.  No
matter what qualities you choose to focus on, be it looks or smarts or
personality or what-have-you, some people will have more or less of it
than others, male or female.  If its unfair to be held up in
comparison to supermodels on the basis of looks, then its just as
"unfair" to judge others based on (1) personality (2) money (3)
intelligence....on and on.  These other qualities are often as much a
matter of fate (read genetics, circumstance, etc.) as looks.

But crying about "fair" and "unfair" ultimately goes nowhere.  Sure,
you can make a big stink and maybe get on Donahue, but look at all the
people who have transcended these catagories and gotten on with their
lives. 

Cheers, 

Joe Niederberger

Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:17:44 GMT

ringo@icad.com (Amy Gorin) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.175422.3033@dragon.acadiau.ca> 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie) writes:

> >Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Craig Andrew Humphrey) writes:

> >> windoze.  
>		
> >Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
> >outside while you're indoors!  

>He's not talking about holes in the wall.  He's talking about the MicroShaft
>product that runs under MS-LOSS.


>> ============================================================================
>> The Commodore Amiga 4000 - 24 bit          16,777,216 colors (4096^2)!!    
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

>Oh.  Nevermind.

Well, I'd like to state that I full agree that IBM (and ALL compatibles)
are pieces of shit!
-Doc

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