HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Suggested trades for the Cowboys.
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:03:31 GMT
	<36896@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>
> |> 2. With the Chargers:
> |>    Again Noonan or Cassilas + (so-so) to get OLB/MLB J Seau.
> |>    It may work because the Chargers could not stop the run and may switch
> |>    to a 4-3 scheme. Seau had 7 sacks 129 tackles and made to the Probowl
> |>    last year. He is also young, 23 to 24 years.

>
Hoho.. where these Cowpokes fans come up with these trades.. Take it
from me. Seau is not going *anywhere*, unless maybe the 49ers offer
Rice, Taylor and throw in Romanowski to make it an even trade #) #)
>

agreed. as I said before there ain't no way Beathard is gonna trade *anybody*
on the defensive team who is *worth* trading unless he gets a damn good deal
involving *defensive* players. the man ain't stupid (conceited and obnoxious
maybe but not stupid :D), and we need to keep all the decent defensive players
we can get our hands on! :D

--Vernon...pluggin' for Dan F to come out of retirement :D
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From: punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi)
Subject: Re: Novacek to 49ers?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 04:00:48 GMT

In article <16fa62INNqi7@agate.berkeley.edu> rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege) writes:
>In article <2232@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>>It was reported in today's Austin-American Statesman that there are
>>"rumors out of the Metroplex", i.e. Dallas, that the Cowboys are trying
>>to shop Novacek to San Francisco.  Has anyone else heard this?
>>
>>Daniel Welch
>
>  It makes complete sense. Lessee, the Niners have Brent Jones, a
>  fine pass-catching tight end and Jamie Williams a solid blocker
>  and Wesley Walls who's having an outstanding preseason. I can
>  already picture Shanahan drooling over the four TE sets he can
>  use to thoroughly outwit and outpace the defense. In fact, I think 
>  they should trade Jerry Rice to Dallas to get Novacek. 
>
>  Just my 2 pesos worth,
>
>  Ashu Rege

	The Novacek trade to SF is simply a rumor according to the agent for
Novacek (who also represents Jones of the niners) that was started to lower
the contract value of Novacek who is currently a holdout and in the process
of negotiating his contract with Dallas.	
	If Rice, the best wideout in pro football, is traded, one certainly
would expect to get more than Novacek in return.

	Sanjeev
From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikings blow out KC
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:29:15 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Aug17.162858.3662@brtph560.bnr.ca> yournamehere@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.134632.215@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug16.071011.14582@news.stolaf.edu>, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes...
>|> Don't get too excited.  The Packers beat the Chiefs soundly in week 1. 
>|> Either the Chiefs are sandbagging it or they have major problems.
>|> >I bleed purple.
>
>What do you expect if these people have not signed....
>
>Okoye (What are Word and Harvey Williams doing)
>Paige (Where are there other receivers)
>Lowery (Lansford is missing field goals)


	Well, they had to do something right to hold the team to 0 points.
   Granted, not having those players can only hurt KC, but I am mildly
   impressed with the MINN DEF. Granted, it is still preseason, but only
   giving up 3 points in your last 2 preseason games is a good sign. 
   Hopefully, they will be able to put together another awesome defense
   like they had in the late 80's. So any more news coming from Minn?
   What is their game plan going to be this year? Air Attack? Rushing?
   Mixture? Help I'm trapped with all the Packer-Backers, I need Purple
   News, I also bleed purple. :)

							Mark 
							GO VIKINGS!
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Redskins Get First Win in Preseason
Keywords: Football
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:13:37 GMT
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division


The Washington Redskins staked an early 21-7 lead, and held on to win their
first game of the preseason, 27-23.

The Redskins defense scored the first two touchdowns on back-to-back
interceptions (33 and 25 yards) of Raider quarterback Jay Schroeder, both
by Martin Mayhew.

Following a Raider touchdown that cut the lead 14-7, the Redskins got their
third touchdown from the special teams when Brian Mitchell returns the
kickoff all the way to the endzone.

Mark Rypien would up 1-for-3 in the first half before yielding way to Cary
Conklin, while Todd Marinovich replaced Jay Schroeder in the second half.
The send half was highlighted by the play of Marinovich, Napolean McCallum,
and Nick Bell.  The Redskins were only able to manage two field goals in that
second half, while the Raiders put up two touchdowns to close the lead to
27-21.

Redskins running back John Settle fumbled on what would have been the series
that may have put it away for Washington.  This led to a long Raider drive,
lasting over seven minutes, bringing them to the Redskins 1 yard line with
2:00 to play in the game.  However, McCallum dropped a sure catch in the
endzone, and the Redskins took over on downs.

The 'Skins were not able to get a first down on that drive and on 4th and 1
with 0:14 to play, took an intentional safety.  The Raiders called for fair
catch on the free kick, but Marinovich's Hail Mary did not get answered.

The Redskins offense did not perform all that well, given the fact that they
were probably well rested with a two-touchdown lead.  The first-team defense
appeared to play well, forcing three interceptions of Schroeder, the last two
being the Mayhew TD returns.

For the Raiders, Jay Schroeder appears to be playing himself out of a job, as
his interceptions proved to be costly for his team.  Todd Marinovich went
10-for-17 on the day, and appears to be making his case for the starting job.


Bob ... they're not ready for Dallas ... nowhere close !!

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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Chargers 20, Patriots 10
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:03:39 GMT

From article <1992Aug15.144131.28165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, by asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JONAX):
> Eric Dieniemy and Marion Butts each scored a TD....for the Chargers
       ^^^^^^^^

That should be Bieniemy.  Eric "Sleeping with" Bieniemy.

						- Tim

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From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: POOL - Separate Newsgroup?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.173616.26353@colorado.edu>, davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
|> Last week, several people posted "Where are the results" messages after they
|> had already been posted.  I have also had many people say that it is hard to
|> find the different posts each week.


  Anyone who has trouble getting news in a timely basis can get the POOL
  lines and results via email. Just ask David and he'll add your name to
  his mailing list!

  Creating a separate newsgroup is not the answer.

-Ron




> 
|> As a possible solution to some of these problems, I was considering creating
|> a group, "rec.sport.football.pro.pool" which would contain only my posts
|> about the pool and any discussion of same.  It would also be available for
|> any other pools that start up...
|> 
|> Please let me know if you have an opinion on this idea either way.  If people
|> seem to think it would be a useful thing, I'll do it.  If not, I won't.
|> 
|> If we could keep discussion of this idea on the newsgroup, it would keep my
|> mail spool to a less obnoxious size, but replies through email are also fine.
|> 
|> -- 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> David Rex Wood -- davewood@cs.colorado.edu -- University of Colorado at Boulder
|>   BRONCOS!!        R.S.F.P. Internet Football Pool Organizer        BRONCOS!!
|>                Owner, Boulder Houlders --- Owner, Colorado 14ers
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:56:45 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL

>
be encouraged and was part of the home field advantage.  What do you guys
think the worst is?
>

personally, I think the "immediate spike" to stop the clock is a shitty
rule. Sure you lose a down but so what!? teams in the past have managed
to make the play, there's no reason why teams nowadays should get that
added bonus...

also, I think they should change the rules so that if the 2:00 warning
has passed, then a play MUST be run--no kneeling. A kneel should result
in loss of down--that is, if you kneel on first down, the next down is
third. If you kneel on second down, the next down is fourth. If you
kneel on third down, the ball changes possession for the next down. If
there's one thing I hate about a game is watching them kneel at the end
to protect a 1-7 point lead....

--Vernon.
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Niners tip Deadskins!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.144637.10598@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>
>Geez, was Cofer just a little TOO excited when he made that kick?  I mean, I
>can understand being happy but it was a preseason game, not the Super Bowl.
>
>Oh well.

The annoucers commented that he may have saved his job with that kick.
If that's true, I'd say its understandable he was so excited.  Also
both teams and coaching staff said that the atmosphere in the stadium
was unusual for a preseason game; they said it felt more like a
regular season or playoff game to them.

schalene

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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Redskins impressions (was Re: Niners tip Deadskins!)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
    <1992Aug17.171221.22673@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:20:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.171221.22673@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.145307.23167@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>>Desmond Howard?  I think the practice date for starting the regular season
>>opener in Dallas has passed.  A rookie with an attitude and no practice is
>>not going to instantly get a slot on a SB champion team, even if he did win
>>the Heisman.  He'll probably get traded for a second-round draft pick or
>>something.
>
>A second round pick????  He can draw a LOT more than that if he is traded.
>For example, if traded to KC Chiefs, Howard would be worth MLB Percy Snow,
>and CB Albert Lewis at least (probably also a mid-round pick).
>
>(* ... second round pick!?  Sheesh... *)

I think I spoke too soon there.  Probably another first-round pick.  Holding
out does not increase your market value.  Have the Chiefs said they would be
willing to pay him what he wants?

>>Lachey and Green will be missed.  Either one might come back or simply
>>retire.  They're really too old to trade.
>
>Too old to trade???? Simply retire????  Both these guys are going to make
>over $1.2 million a year for the next 3 years AT LEAST!!!!  They most
>certainly will not retire.  And I bet there is at least one team out there
>that would find a roster spot for either player.  (Actually, all 28 teams
>would start both Lachey and Green).

It doesn't look like they'll be making much *this* year.  Football is a
tough job; most people don't want to play forever.  There's a point where a
player decides to retire.  But for most people, there's a price that will
prevent it as well.  How many of the 28 teams would meet those asking prices
to keep them out of retirement?  (hint:  It's not 28.)  If you can prove
it's more than zero, I'll concede that I was wrong about them being too old
to trade.

How many years has it been since Green bothered entering the "NFL's fastest
man" competition?

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: killer@niksula.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: Stupid rules
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:38:18 GMT

In article <866mrxf@lynx.unm.edu> jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (James Webb) writes:

	   6) The fair catch. Are they men or mice? Catch the ball and take the 
	      hit, or don't catch it and let it roll deeper into your territory.

If there was no fair catch rule, then the kickers would simply kick
the ball high up the air thus allowing the kicking team to be right
next to the catcher and ready to hit him at the instant he touches
the ball.

Just think how many injuries this would cause...
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Suggested trades for the Cowboys.
Organization: University of Michigan
	<2270@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:34:14 GMT

In article <2270@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:

   In article <36994@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
   >
   >My point is this. The Cowpokes won those afore-mentioned games
   >despite Beuerlein at QB, bcoz, he had an excellent supporting cast.

   Although I'm willing to concede the silliness of a Beuerlein for Seau
   trade, we Cowboy loyalist who remember the Babe from 1990 know that the
   Cowboys didn't win last year "despite" Beuerlein.  The Cowboys were 7-7
   and on a roll in '90, needing just one more win to make the playoffs
   probably.  Then, Aikman goes down, and here comes The Babe.  

While its clear that Babe was much worse than Beurline, I think that you are
vastly undervaluing the performance of Michael Irvings last year.  The guy is
a major talent who will go a long way to making *any* passing game work, and
he took a great deal of heat off of the running game.  Harper was looked
pretty good for a rookie too, if I'm remembering right.  Does anybody know
how Emmitts performance was affected by Aikman going down two years ago, and
the passing game going south?

While I don't think adding an effective healthy Irvings would have made
Babe=Beurline, I don't think that it is completely fair to compare the backup
performances from last year.

Bill
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: How's Herschel Walker Doing?
Originator: delarocq@c00066-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:33:11 GMT




   Herschel Walker was clocked at 4.29 in the 40 yd sprint. He also is looking
  very sharp in his blocking techniques. He is good enough right now where he
  can take the starter position away from Byars. I'd say the Eagles have landed
  a rather large (and fast!) catch.


  delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: collins@gdwest.gd.com (Gary J. Collins)
Subject: Re: Gayle Gardener. Dont you mean AL MICHAELS?
Organization: General Dynamics / Computer Sciences Corp.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:49:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.182846.2876@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.194417.7451@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JONAX) writes:
>>
>>   I hate her, I despise her, get her plugged-up-nose-voice out of
>>the NFL, as a matter of fact out of any media....
>>   This has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman....if any
>>man was as annoying as she is I would say the same for him...
>
>	Oh, There is pigskin breath...
>	and his name is...... Al Michaels...... of MNF Fame.
>	He has a closepin on his nose.
>	

Hey, Hey, Heeeeyy!  Come now.

	Do you believe in Michaels?..... Yes!


Gary John (Collins)
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From: 6405750@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: L.A. Rams outlook
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:27:06 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: L.A. Rams outlook
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:54:26 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

the running back situation is still up for grabs.according to knox
no one has caught his eye yet.the only backs that are not banged
up for the raider game are dupree & joe campbell.delpino is going
to be playing fullback this year,hes not to happy but personally
i think thats a good position for him.glad see theres some ram fans
out there.i get rampages also so i get alot of inside info.let me
know if you need anymore news
          drew (die hard ram fan)
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: More BERMANISMS!! (was Re: Chargers 20, Patriots 10)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:30:59 GMT
Organization: Chevron

(Tim Bradley) so succintly writes:
>> Eric Dieniemy scored a TD.
>       ^^^^^^^^

Ahhh, yes.  Yet another.


   Reggie "Foghorn" Langhorne
   Vince Workman "my way back to you, babe"
   Thermal Thomas
   Brad "Colonel" Muster "who did it in the Laboratory with a lead pipe"
   Scott "Won't you let me take you on a" Secules
   "Who Framed" Roger Ruzek
   Steve "I got you babe" Bono
>  Eric "Sleeping with" Bieniemy.
>						- Tim

Come on all you net holdouts.  Its time to get into camp with those
favorite Bermanisms.

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Stupid rules
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:22:22 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug16.202851.20566@news.iastate.edu>, jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:

| If this is the case (and I think it is), it is still a stupid rule. I thought
| the Stabler play was brilliant. What was wrong, as far as the framework of
| football goes, with Stabler's play? What is so special about the last 2
| minutes of a game? Get rid of the rule and keep things simple: The ball
| belongs to whichever team recovers the fumble; if the offense happens to
| recover it in the defense's end zone, so be it. Give them 6 points and move on.
| If the offense wants to risk a planned forward fumble in hopes of scoring, let
| them try. It will add to the excitment of the game.

  If the only object is to add to the excitement, then allow linemen to
catch passes and do away with pass interference.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Team Leaders (Points) 1991
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:01:58 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1=_n52l@lynx.unm.edu> jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (James Webb) writes:
>Detroit	102	Barry Sanders

It's almost incredible that someone besides a kicker lead a team in scoring.
I think he was the only on on the list who *wasn't* a kicker.  Does anyone
know how often this has happened in years past?  I'd be willing to bet that
it's not very common.

Daniel Welch
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From: daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer)
Subject: Re: Cincinnati Wide Receivers... who's hurt?
Keywords: injuries
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:48:33 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug19.164807.6242@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>, juodvalk@quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu (Vincent V. Juodvalkis) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Two quick questions.
|> 
|> 1) Was it Brown or McGee that got hurt on the Bengals?

      Brown.

|> 
|> 2) How long is he out for?
|> 

      Out for the season due to knee surgery.

|> 
|> Thanks.

-- 
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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chargers 20, Patriots 10
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:24:44 GMT

In article <oeXeyxG00WDKQ2kMhP@andrew.cmu.edu>, vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
> >Eric Dieniemy and Marion Butts each scored a TD....for the Chargers
> 
> great, but what we *really* want to know is: how did Humphries look? Or
> did they start Gagliano?
> 
> --Vernon.


Humphries didn't arrive [from London] at the Chargers camp in time
to practise enough to play in the Patriots game. Gagliano started,
and was replaced by Graham and O'Hara [who looked good against the
NE 3rd string]. Expect Humphries to play next week.



--Prashanth
  prash@bhaskara.ucsd.edu
  U of California at San Diego
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From: dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward)
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:10:29 GMT

twright@smcl415.smkt (Tom Wright) writes:
: In article 65913@hydra.gatech.EDU, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
: >
: >I'm just curious as to what the opinions are out there as to the absolute
: >SINGLE worst rule the NFL currently has.  There are some pretty bad ones out
: >there.  IMHO, the worst has to be the rule allowing a penalty to be called
: >on a home team for "excessive crowd noise."  I always thought that was to
: >be encouraged and was part of the home field advantage.  What do you guys
: >think the worst is?
: 
:   The most annoying and senseless rule to me is when the referees feel the need 
: to call offsetting unnecessary roughness penalties when there is a fight on
: the field. What a waste of time!! 
: 
: Tom Wright
: twright@lsil.com

    My favorite is when the refs call a delay of game penalty
    against the quarterback just as he is taking the snap...