From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Origins of IBM / Microsoft rift
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:12:48 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul23.073024.2366@unislc.uucp> thayne@unislc.uucp (Thayne Forbes) writes:
>From article <1992Jul22.154244.26401@njitgw.njit.edu>, by dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap):
>> Then why did he almost abandon the Mac community?  The new MS apps for
>> the Mac are direct ports of the Windows apps, and the Mac users don't
>> appreciate this one bit.  The wanted Mac apps, and they're getting
>> ported Windows apps.
>
>Wait a minute, when did he abandon the Mac?  Also, the two big winders
>apps are Word and Excel, both of which were ported FROM the Mac.

I didn't say he did.  I said almost.  The most recent versions of Word
and Excel were published first for Windows, and were later released
for the Mac.  The Mac versions are looking more and more like the
Windows versions, as well - which is what the Mac users are upset
about.  This came to a head about a year ago when PowerPoint was
released for the Mac - complete with dialogs that looked exactly like
the Windows dialogs and nothing at all like the standard Mac dialogs.

>Dunno.  Are you talking about the OS/2 libs in C?  I don't have a copy
>of C 7.0 yet, so I don't know about that.

Microsoft C 6.0 was a complete OS/2 1.2 development package.  It
included the OS2.H hierarchy, and shipped with OS2.LIB.  You could
write OS/2 1.2 code with no additional software with it.  (OK, the
resource editors and compilers were sold separately in the toolkit)
MS C 7.0 didn't have any facility for producing OS/2 code.

I've recently been told that this was due to time constraints - that
they wanted to release it ASAP, so they did away with the OS/2 stuff.
That's a shame, because there are many OS/2 developers (myself
included) who'd prefer to use MS-C for OS/2 development.

>I don't agree that he is 'dumping' the other platforms.  He announced 
>just last week a new found love for Apple.  (Bill and Sculley on the
>front page of the NY Times Business section.  What a cute couple.)

This is new.  I only heard about it Wednesday.  I wonder who was about
to win the lawsuit...

>OS/2, he obviously doesn't need the grief, but I personally think he
>will change his mind in a year or two.  Despite what I think of it, OS/2
>will still be somewhat sucsessful, and Bill loves a good market.

True, he did state that he'd get back into the OS/2 game if it sold 2
milltion copies by the first year.  Of course, he's going to be a year
behind the other OS/2 developers if he waits that long.  Unless he's
continuing development anyway and isn't releasing anything - that's a
rumor I've heard, although I can't see the logic in not releasing a
developed products.

>           "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
>                            -U.S. Vice President J. Danforth Quayl[e]

This guy is almost as profound as computer dealers...

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