HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Sources
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 10:48:48 EST
Organization: No Pity For The Majority!  [private]

ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy) writes:

> Man, I don't want to sound anal, but that file seemed pretty much a
> straight rip of Gatsby's file....And Gatsby's file has been out a long
> time now....
> 
> Giving credit where it's due (moreso than a little blurb in that
> "Bibliography" section).....

Yeah, man, but they sure had a hell of a VGA loader... man, you shoulda seen
it...


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From: z3kpw@ttacs1.ttu.edu ("Wheeler, Kevin")
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: found this, check it out
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:34:00 GMT
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From: morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Database access, how?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 11:19:29 EST
Organization: No Pity For The Majority!  [private]

popec@freeside.com (PopeC) writes:

> There are basically three big cedit bureaus, is my understanding.  And
> you can indeed write them and ask for a copy of your credit data.  
> Details vary from state to state ect.  Call your local Better Business 
> Bureau and ask them how to do this.  I think Consumer Review bput out a 
> little pamplet about this some years ago, too.

Or, depending on which side of the fence you're reading this from, you could
save yourself the trouble (and a service charge from one or two places) by
simply pulling it yourself.. ;-)



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From: marlin.johnson@the-matrix.com (Marlin Johnson) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: SOURCES, PART V
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:31:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: marlin.johnson@the-matrix.com (Marlin Johnson) 

-> The Shockwave Rider - by William Gibson(?)

BBerrrrrmptt!  by John Brunner.  Damn fine book, IMNSHO.  Situation
created by end of book is always what comes to my mind when discussion
topic turns to freedom of information.

Otherwise, interesting list 'o stuff.


Marlin
mjohnson@bsc835.uucp
                                                                                          
Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk:6816 sci.electronics:21430
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (aristotle)
Subject: Re: DEA, Secret Service, Brain Loss.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:53:54 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu said about 'DEA,
Secret Service, Brain Loss.': 

|The DEA is a bunch of crooks, who as law enforcement could not find their way
|out of paper bag..  Unless you gave them a joint to get out..

Womp-wooooommmmp.

So nice of you to stereotype, lump them altogether.

|Same with the Secret Service.. They are both organizations who have little
|respect for constitutional rights of free americans.. If your not a member of
|their nifty organization (themselves or the President/Congress) your nothing..
|
|I would not put it before them to deliberately to  seize property of a politic
|opponent for the gains of their masters/mistresses.. 

It is this type of conjecture that only serves to increase their image
(illusion?) of power.  If you are going to make statements like this,
please bak them up with fact, such as the Secret Service and Operation
Sundevil in 1990, in which there were obvious violations of rights
were commited.  For a lot more info., from a variety of sources, on
Op. Sundevil, I refer you to ftp.eff.org.  Look in /EFF, /SJG,
/pub/cud/*, and most importantly get the Index and grep it for
sundevil. There one can find out the myths and the facts about
Sundevil, and destroy pointless ungrounded opinions.

BTW, you do know the history of the Internet, don't you?  Wouldn't
want a file started on you in some basement government computer just
because you posted unfounded opinions to the net.

|Michael Adams
|Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
|nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu

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From: dcroz@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Can this be for real?
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:32:49 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan


 
 
 
>In article <1992Dec9.181523.2113@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> ,
>z_huntercj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
 
     [garbage deleted]
 
=}Your command of the language is incredible!
 
     What seems incredible to me is that nobody seems to suspect that this is a
"Protocols of the Elders of Zion" type fraud.  How willing everyone seems to
attribute this level of stupidity to the "far right," as though the "far right"
couldn't find intelligent, educated, and articulate spokesmen.
 
     I don't know, and it's hard for me to follow the thread because I don't
get all the notes from this newsgroup at my site, but I rather suspect this is
a prank by a couple of would-be-leftist, know-it-all sophomores.
 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech,alt.cyberpunk.movement
From: pacoid@wixer.cactus.org (Paco Xander Nathan)
Subject: Re: Cyberpunk NOW Organization.
Organization: FringeWare Inc., +1 512 477 1366
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 17:52:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.002518.17544@panix.com> joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen) writes:
>In <1993Jan1.193833.22496@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (we're tiny we're toony) writes:
>
>
>>bOING-bOING, Intertek, CyberEdge, Technology Works, lots of SF
>>journals, ocassional articles in mainstream stuff like Details, FACE,
>>Fad, etc........
>
>     good list... except the editors of bOING, bOING come outta
>mondo (the seem to all be mondo refugees of sorts)...


Bull-Fucking-Shit rosen!  The editors of bOING-bOING were all doing
samizdat zines b4 they got into BB, then just about each took a shot
at writing for M2 and >many< have at this point gotten disgusted.
Where in the living fuck did you extract that "refugees" tripe?
Any more and - why - we outta just march our little BB tribe down
to the White Horse and turn off your android power supply.  That'll
teach you to mess with sentients!

ditto on all the rest:

>CyberEdge Journal is outta range (with a subscription price of well
>over $100.00 bucks 'a year) of most persons i know...
>
>     i get more useful info outta some of the technical rags (like
>computer craft) and electronic geek magazines (like computer
>applications journal).
>
>>|and is there really a cyber-culture ?
>
>>What do you think?  
>
>>|     like i said, the stuff i see printed in mondo (the closest thing
>>|available that sorta chronicles the "culture") makes me wanna vomit.
>
>     as i said... makes we wanna puke...
>
>is this movement a "fashion" statement or are we trying to actually
>build stuff and make "art"...
>
>     or is the idea to just appear faux cool while reading some 'o the
>junk printed in places like mondo ?

pxn.
From: S_BLEYER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Mike Bleyer)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: How to read eye-movement ?
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:48:07 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
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Does anyone know of some kind of goggles, glasses or the like, that offer a
mechanism to read the direction that my eye is looking (up, down, left
right). I know there is a way reading left/right from the electric
potential between electrodes fixed to the middle of your forehead and the
sides (amplified muscle and nerve action). But up and down is somewhat
difficult/impossible.

Is there any device that does this, for example low powered laser reading
the movement from reflections of the eyeball or whatever...
Anyone worked with something like this ?
Where to get it ? Prices ?
Any ideas, new and old, welcome...

Mike
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  S_Bleyer@RZMain.RZ.Uni-Ulm.DE |   except the bits that are lies."
From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: How to read eye-movement ?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 23:21:46 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

S_BLEYER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Mike Bleyer) writes:

> 
> Does anyone know of some kind of goggles, glasses or the like, that offer a
> mechanism to read the direction that my eye is looking (up, down, left
> right). I know there is a way reading left/right from the electric
> potential between electrodes fixed to the middle of your forehead and the
> sides (amplified muscle and nerve action). But up and down is somewhat
> difficult/impossible.
> 
> Is there any device that does this, for example low powered laser reading
> the movement from reflections of the eyeball or whatever...
> Anyone worked with something like this ?
> Where to get it ? Prices ?
> Any ideas, new and old, welcome...
> 
> Mike
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Mike Bleyer on Internet       | " It's absolutely devastatingly true -
>   S_Bleyer@RZMain.RZ.Uni-Ulm.DE |   except the bits that are lies."
> 


Some of the Units used for full scale military aircraft stuff use a 
system that aims an IR light at an eye.  The reflection of the light of 
off the cornea is picked up by a sensor that can figure out the amount 
and direction of movement.  Sort of using the eyeball as an optical 
rollerball.  Good luck figuring this out or getting the hardware.
On some Helicopter systems, this is used to aim 20mm miniguns or other 
weapons systems, so the pilot has his hands free to fly his craft.

Apprently this system as far as I can tell, seems to rely on the fact 
that the cornea on the eye gives you something to aim the light at that 
changes position in relationship to the light sensor and source.
IR Diode, fiber optics, IR detectors and an interface?

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: CyberTelepathy.. 
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:24:11 GMT

In article <u34awB1w165w@freeside.com>, popec@freeside.com (PopeC) writes:
> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> 
>> Sounds liek people need to figure out what the future will be in say 100 year
>> and then do some back planning/thinking and figure out how we are to get
>> there.. Such as what inventions and such need to come about to make it so..
>> If things change, well we can re-think the point future and retrack the path
>> needed.. So far I have seen alot of gaming stuff, people more interested in h
>> to better play their Nintendo (c) than real future stuff..
>> 
>> Other topic:
>> Humans seem to not be able to do it, or unwilling to do it, namely telepathy.
>> And what one facet of computers and direc hardwiring is the ability to pass
>> info from one human to another faster and clearer, without the emotional
>> abiguities (sp).. I would love to be able to pass on my feeling to another
>> person but find myself stopped by the crude I/O devices life has given us so
>> far.. 
>> 
>> Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu
>> 
> 
> 
> I got very deep into parapsychology for about 10 years.  I went thru all 
> the literature, and checked and doublechecked all claims of telepathy and 
> PK that I could.  After 10 long years of research, I conclude that the 
> archskeptics are right.  It ain't likely that such things are real.. And 
> the claims from some quarters that such phenomena are commona nd can be 
> learned or innate skills sharpened with practice, proven untrue.
>    Just my $.02.
> 
> Pope Charles    Subgenius Pope Of Houston.    Slack!
> 
> 
> **********************************************************************
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> *       Laughing at everything in the Universe, including the        *
> *       concept of laughing at everything in the Universe.           *
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Maybe the problem with normal telepathy and ESP and such is that we are trying
the wrong methods and technoology. Maybe with jacking in to a computer we can
talk to each other mind to mind, via radio waves or laser or maybe actually
find that thing some call ESP??
From: merlin@freeside.com (Merlin the Idiot Magi)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: wanted:
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 14:23:40 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

popec@freeside.com (PopeC) writes:

> harryk@freeside.com (Harry Krishna) writes:
> 
> > Wanted: writers and journalists (some experience needed)
> > 
> >         I'm looking for a few good writers.  I am trying to get together 
> > with some people to start a nice magazine.  If you're interested please 
> > leave me private mail at 'harryk@freeside.com'.  Please leave your 
> > internet account so I may get back in touch with you.
> > 
> >         Harry Krishna
> >         harryk@freeside.com
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > harryk@freeside.com (Harry Krishna)
> > Rivendell BBS -*- Houston, TX -*- +1(713)941-2236
> 
> Gee, Harry!  What KIND a magazine?  What sort of writing do you seek!
> What sort of articles, subject matter, or ideas are you wanting?
> 

  I dunno why he even bothered to act the net in general, heck, most of 
Sp00genet is dying for some nwe way to splatter their ego's on an 
unsuspecting audience now...
  /// & ///

    Yes, you too can die THREE HOURS AND TWENTY-FOUR MINUTES EARLY ...

     Smoke Today!!!
      ( Read _Under Pressure_ Pasadena's worst Newsletter! )
  Merlin@freeside.com
From: srl@terminus.ericsson.se (Steve Langstaff)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Glasses
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: srl@terminus.ericsson.se
Organization: Camtec Electronics (Ericsson), Leicester, England

In article CDJ@ra.nrl.navy.mil, humphrey@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Jeff Humphrey [Jeffus]) writes:
[snip]
|>   Laser light has a number of health risks associated with it besides ...
|>   'burning your retina' ... things like prolonged exposure to radiation (which
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>   is always assumed to be a bad thing), etc ...
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[snip]

Bit of a sweeping statement! If it wasn't for the *radiation* humans would have
evolved with harder shin bones (on account of walking into things).

---

| Steve Langstaff - Ericsson CAMTEC |
From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Future Plotting and Back Planning
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 15:55:17 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

> Sounds liek people need to figure out what the future will be in say 100 year
> and then do some back planning/thinking and figure out how we are to get
> there.. Such as what inventions and such need to come about to make it so..
> If things change, well we can re-think the point future and retrack the path
> needed.. So far I have seen alot of gaming stuff, people more interested in h
> to better play their Nintendo (c) than real future stuff..
> 
> Other topic:
> Humans seem to not be able to do it, or unwilling to do it, namely telepathy.
> And what one facet of computers and direc hardwiring is the ability to pass
> info from one human to another faster and clearer, without the emotional
> abiguities (sp).. I would love to be able to pass on my feeling to another
> person but find myself stopped by the crude I/O devices life has given us so
> far.. 
> 
> Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu
> 


I got very deep into parapsychology for about 10 years.  I went thru all 
the literature, and checked and doublechecked all claims of telepathy and 
PK that I could.  After 10 long years of research, I conclude that the 
archskeptics are right.  It ain't likely that such things are real.. And 
the claims from some quarters that such phenomena are commona nd can be 
learned or innate skills sharpened with practice, proven untrue.
   Just my $.02.

Pope Charles    Subgenius Pope Of Houston.    Slack!


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*       concept of laughing at everything in the Universe.           *
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: How to read eye-movement ?
From: dleclair@netlink.cts.com (Douglas LeClair)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:11:45 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

yap@iowegia.uucp (Yap Yap Yap) writes:

> S_BLEYER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Mike Bleyer) writes:
> 
> > 
> > Does anyone know of some kind of goggles, glasses or the like, that offer a
> > mechanism to read the direction that my eye is looking (up, down, left
> > right). I know there is a way reading left/right from the electric
> > potential between electrodes fixed to the middle of your forehead and the
> > sides (amplified muscle and nerve action). But up and down is somewhat
> > difficult/impossible.
> > 
> 
>         Yes such a device exists.  I saw a peice on a TV show 
> called Beyond 2000 about a just such a device.  They used it for 
> AIDS patients, tho.
> 
> 
> 
> Yap Yap Yap!

 
        Saw a movie like that also, a chiller. It was set in the future 
and the guy would watch commercials and they see where he was looking the 
whole time and change it so the product is where he watches most. Neat 
concept.
 
Doug

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: How to read idea (you mean eye?) movement..
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:56:19 GMT
Organization: n.o.y.b

In article <1992Dec24.203840.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>How to read eye movements.. Maybe do a similiar thing to how a EKG works, but
>if you can find the frequesncy that the eyes give off when they move(?) and
>design a receptor to pick that Freq up and interpret it.. I know this sounds
>rwierd, but never forget some of the wierest ideas are technology today..
>
S'cuse me, but haven't you heard about the U.S. Air Force's "Heads Up" display?
the do it, I believe (if I remember the PBS show), with eye movement tracking.
Then there was the guy in SF that I heard about, maybe 3 or 4 years ago, who
was working with electrodes on the head reading directly from the visual cortex.
His work was for the disabled (move eyes to spell things & issue commands). 
Heard that on NPR (y'oughta listen to NPR). So the technology is there; whether
it's been ported to pcs is another story, but I don't see why it couldn't be.

	mark

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech,alt.cyberpunk.movement
From: pacoid@wixer.cactus.org (Paco Xander Nathan)
Subject: Re: Cyberpunk NOW Organization.
Organization: FringeWare Inc., +1 512 477 1366
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 17:46:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.061156.5212@panix.com> joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen) writes:
>In <1992Dec28.005824.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>
>>Is there any organizations specifically to bring about cyberspace/punk and
>>such.. Basically to act as a clearing house for info on technology, thoughts,
>>movements, bills (laws) and such.. I know of EFF, but is therer some more
>>specific to act as a lets do it now organization, and not a discussion group..
>
>     i guess the closest thing would be some of the "journals"...
>
>i kinda see "mondo" as more of a hinderence rather than a help to the
>whole concept of "cyber"-anything...
>
>     other than mondo what else is out there ?
>
>and is there really a cyber-culture ?
>
>     like i said, the stuff i see printed in mondo (the closest thing
>available that sorta chronicles the "culture") makes me wanna vomit.

IKWYM.  Used to write for them.. but the fashion dweebs won out.  You
might check bOING-bOING (MAD-like), Cybervison (punk), or The And as
alternatives..  Virus23 is no more, but look for back issues.  The 
editor of FlipSide (music) has finally turned onto 'cyber-' etc. so
well see what turns up there.  And even Details seems to think they're
onto the meme..

AND OF COURSE subscribe to email lists like:

	future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu (Future Culture)

for "cultural info" and:

	fringeware@wixer.cactus.org (FringeWare Inc.)

for DIY marketplace info..
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.tech
Subject: Re: Cyberpunk NOW Organization.
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:02:03 GMT
 <1992Dec28.174213.7724@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> 
 <1992Dec29.024548.1@acad3.alaska.edu>  
 <1992Dec29.172922.2038@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

somewhere netlike, ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

>2600 meetings:  	read 2600
>Raves:			well, I don't think there's any in alaska....
>Industrial/punks:	same as above    =)

anyone know of any raves in the new hampshire/vermont/massachusetts
area?

>HohoCon:		read a recent phrack or somethin,
>			read comp.org.eff.talk
>			ftp ftp.eff.org

where can i get a copy of phrack?

chris

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