From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: A NOTE ABOUT ``DAJJAL''!!!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:19:27 GMT

umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor) lied:

>Asslam-o-Alaikum,
>Many Asked about the Dajjal and how Hazrat Ahmad ``killed'' ``him''.
>Here is my anwer:

   Is there any [other] sane person who believes in your answer?

>******************************
>A note on Dajjal
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> 
>Prophet Muhammad made a prophecy of a prophet would come after him, namely, 
>the Messiah or Mahdi.  The hadith tell us that the moral condition of the

   The Messiah and Mahdi are two different persons.
 
>world at the time of his appearance would be in a poor state.  There would 
>be corruption transgression and injustice.  Even the Muslim leadership and 
>scholars would be corrupt.
>The chief antangonist of the Messiah and his followers will be Dajjal.  Who is
>Dajjal?  Let us see what the Prophet has to say:  "Those of you who witness the
>appearance of the Dajjal should read the introductory verses of Surah Kahf, for
>their recital will serve as a protection for you (Muslim)."  If you read the
>beginning verses of Surah Kahf, you will find it refers to the present day
>christians who believe Jesus is the son of God.

   First lie. The couple of verses say that the Prophet was sent to warn
those who claim that God has a son. It talks about the past day people.

> Dajjal, thus refers to 
>Christianity.

   Nice lie.

>According to Arabic dictionaries, Dajjal refers to a great
>company of people who come to dominate a great portion of the earth 
>(Arabic-English Lexicon by Lane and Taj al-Arus).

   Before I check dictionaries, I know that you lied here. Dajjal is an
equivalent of "seasoned liar". To remind you, I am Arabic, unlike you I did
not get this information from a "moist dream."

>In hadith literature,
>Dajjal is often depicted as a donkey with a blind right eye, symbolic for the 
>spiritual bankruptcy of a people.

   Lie. He was refered to as a huge man.

>In Hadith, it is written that the Messiah 
>will break the cross and kill the swine.  Breaking the cross means that 
>the Messiah would disprove with incontrovertible arguments the false 
>doctrines of Christianity.  Killing swine means the Messiah would expose the 
>shameless and immoral practices and concepts that would become widespread in 
>the world.

   Do you have anything to back you up? Our Prophet did not talk in parables,
baby, Christians claim that Jesus talked in parables, we are Muslims.

>The process of rejuvenation of Islam through the Ahmadiyya Movement (the true
>Islam) has begun.  The prophecy in the Quran that He (Allah) will make Islam 
>prevail over every other religion (9:32)" is bound to be fulfilled.

   I do not see any considerable change affected by Ahmadis. Christians are
still there, nothing new. I mean he could not even protect his own image
that was smashed in mud. Be realistic.

   You lie.
   Why do not you quote some Hadiths from credible Hadith books about
Messiah, Mahdi, Dajjal? They are three different persons.
   The dajjal in Arabic means the liar. This guy will claim that he is God,
he will be able to give and take life from people and other miracles. He
will be followed by a huge number of Jews, he won't be able to enter Medina
or Meccah, he is a huge man with one blind eye with curly hair, he will
be dragging with him one "heaven" and one "hell".

**Nabeel
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