HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Sweating
Keywords: Losers
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Organization: Up the,
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.orst.edu

In article <1992Nov20.220140.4135@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>Well, finally!  After two weeks of continual torture and mental
>gymnastics (head games), I have finally managed to wriggle out
>from under a mistake I had made.
 
>Dr. Strangelove which was very thoughtfully broadcast by TNT last
>night and which I watched in a semi-intoxicated state.)
>
>Peeve:   The lines to see Dracula are probably STILL gonna suck tonight.
>         (Get it?  HAHAHAHAHA!)

Congratulations on your own emancipation, job well done.  I do think that
rather than Dr. Strangelove or Dracula, your time would have been better 
spent on "Play Misty for Me," from my point of view, the scariest movie I've
ever seen.

Dracula wasn't a bad movie, it had good parts, but I don't think it will
be enough to salvage FFCoppola's leaking career.  This could be it for him.
I did like the metamessage it contained suggesting that one always keep an
American cowboy around in case there's trouble.  I can't recommend it overall,
however.

Obpeeve: If my officemate plays one more video game with lots of beeping 
         noises, I will surely drain his lifeblood into the sewer system,
         feed his flesh to 700 pound boars, grind any remaining bones into 
         the cement at a local construction site, burn his material posessions,
         shoot any direct ancestors still living, defecate upon the graves of
         any not, sterilize any indirect relatives within four generations of
         common descent, remove his name from all electronic or print media 
         records in existance, and just possibly, send hate mail to anyone 
         with the same name.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tim's to do list ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
1. Get old, die.
2. I must not think bad thoughts.
3. Get mine before this fetid rotting contaminated carcass we 
   call Earth collapses about our collective head.
4. Read a good book.
5. Eliminate homicidal clones of self.
6. Obtain fiber optic camera, produce Madonna: An Inside Look
   for prime time TV, since that's all that's really left to see.
7. Make itemized account of all precious bodily fluids.
8. Play basketball.
9. Sell Michael Eisner plan to turn Buddha into animated 
   Saturday morning crimefighter.
10.Consult hyperintelligent aliens about personal life.
11.Suggest Clinton take open air motorcade trip through Memphis
   if he really wants people to associate him with Kennedy.
12.Convince Christo to begin working with giant razor tipped 
   tumbleweeds.
---------Tim Mefford      tim@physics.orst.edu-----------------
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: flame masters
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:46:12 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

(Charles Parr) lolls:
>So, Geoff, what *was* decided when you, Banta, and JZ got
>together?

Let's see.  If I remember correctly, we decided 
- that I would not be going to San Diego to pit crew for JZ
- that Geoff was generally not available for wrenching sessions 
  except on the weekends
- that Geoff would return my modem to me the following morning
- that I would be supplying cranberries for JZ's Thanksgiving feed
- that the woman in the red dress had actually practiced the way 
  she walked
- that the bearings in JZ's 1275 A-series engine had truly seen
  better days
- that the chile verde burrito supremo was a pretty good choice from
  the menu
and
- that none of us could clench our fists as tight as some of the
  wankers on alt.peeves must have too.

andy
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
".....what I was encouraging women to do is to
get a life, not necessarily a career. I think
a career is a poor substitute for a life."
                                               -- Germaine Greer
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The University of California at Berkeley
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:48:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

~In article <28303@castle.ed.ac.uk~ fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
~~jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
~~
~~~In article <1992Nov16.182103.15403@twg.com~, nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw) writes:
~~
~~~~ !Peeve: The Naked Guy at UCB. Neighbors think he's crazy, but he seems only to
~~~~ have taken the constitution's protections to heart and to have started living
~~~~ by his principles.
~~~         ^^^^^^^^^^
~~~I don't think you spell it like that, Nolan.
~~
~~principle : (noun) standard or rule of personal conduct.
~~
~~principal : first in importance, rank, value etc

~~~~~~~~WHIZZZZZZZZZZBOIIINGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!

~(representation of Mike missing the point)

~I just thought Nolan might have been trying to spell the name of the
~male organ. Get it now?

No. This is a joke, right? 

Or you're practicing to be a father with absolutely no sense of humour?

~Daughter Peeve: Mike mentioned that I have about 15 years to figure out
~what to do if my daughter brings to dinner her boyfriend - a spotty
~bespectacled youth with a Megadeth T-shirt and a hip calculator.

~Frightening.

~But it could be worse - what if he's a Hawkwind fan?

hehee, this conjoined with your previous posting has formed in my mind a
scheme for perfect revenge. I'll wait until your daughter is 14, and
then *I'll* date her :-)

and, by the way, can I help you pick the school uniform?

~===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

FoFP

-- 

We wonder why other folks regard computing people as weird while we
persistently refer to small, square objects as "discs".
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Re: Car peeve
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 07:01:12 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust

In article <1992Nov21.224551.18976@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:

>Somebody sucked my gas tank dry last night.  The locking cap apparently
>wasn't screwed on tightly enough.  I went to bed with half a tank of
>gas/petrol.
>
>[Unromantic walk in the rain sans condoms and Macintosh]
>
>Bastards (lovely word) stole my gas cap or threw it into oblivion, too,
>and it was a $15 locking type.

And it worked *so* well too. Pity.

Actually this reminds me of one cold and rainy evening a few years back
when I was driving around with my pal Phillip. Phillip *liked* to see
how close he could come to running out of gas. He was kinda weird that
way.

Anyhow, we ran out of gas in Seekonk, MA, and had just enough momentum
to roll into a mini-mart. There was a guy inside cleaning up, but the
doors were locked. So we banged on the window a few times. "Sorry, we're
closed." After all, it *was* 11:05 PM.

So we leave the car there and walk up the highway a couple miles to the
next gas station. Sure enough, as soon as we were on our way, the light
drizzle coming out of the sky turned into a serious kick-ass RAINSHOWER.
I was not pleased.

Freezing cold, throughly wet, and very much annoyed, we arrived at the
gas station. Like, hi, we wanna borrow one of those gas cans. Like no
way, you don't have any. Shit. So we paid $2.50 for a container of
windshield washer fluid, dumped it out, and went to the pump to wash it
out and fill 'er up.

So Phillip and I are standing in the rain, filling up this clear 
plastic container with unleaded, when this cop car pulls up to the pump.

Cop:	"You guys work here?"

P & D:	Fuck *you*, pal. "Who us? No. We're just customers."

Cop:	"Well if you're walking around be sure to look out for a
	big black guy. He escaped from custody a little while ago."

Cop drives off.

P & D:	"Hey, wait! Give us a ride!"

Neat. Now we get to walk back two miles in the rain with a big black
guy out there just waiting to kill us. Fuck. 

At least Phillip had the right attitude: "Think of it this way, we've
got a rather large petrol bomb here. *I* wouldn't fuck with us."

Uneventful walk back. We pour the gas into the car, and we're just about
to drive off when the *same* cop pulls up to the car.

Cop:	"This your car?"

P & D:	"Yeah."

Cop:	"Well you shouldn't leave it out here. I got a call that this
	was an abandoned car."

P & D:	"We were just getting gas up the road. This place was closed."

Cop:	"Well don't let it happen again."

P & D:	Fuck *you*, pal. "Okay."

Cop drives off.
Phillip & Dan drive off.
-- 
Shirl giggled and handed me something. "A Beretta P92SB," she said. "Ain't
it cute? Holds fifteen rounds, shoots jacketed hollow-points. This week we
tell them they're not in touch with their feelings, next week we blow their
fucking heads off. More coffee cake?"  -- Cynthia Heimel
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Mikey has Dain Bramage
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:18:14 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov15.150627.8904@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>> !Peeve: The thought of cross-posting Mikey's alt.tasteless hazing stories
>>         in response to the next time he claims frats don't haze.
>
>Yawwwnnnn. Ted, I've never written a hazing story to alt.tasteless
>I suppose lying must be in your genes, and that's why you make 
>such a good lawyer. 

--begin included post---
From uchinews!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!bonnie.concordia.ca!nstn.ns.ca!ac.dal.ca!01sybok Wed Apr 22 22:50:39 CDT 1992
Article: 6391 of alt.tasteless
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless
Subject: Re: vote o'thanks
Date: 20 Apr 92 11:33:09 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Apr18.145900.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>, axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu (Aaron Dickey) writes:
> In article <1992Apr18.102719.5202@ac.dal.ca>, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>> It's nice to be able to read a group where fraternities are appreciated. I've
>> spent the last few days defending them on alt.folklore.college, soc.'s women, 
>> and college, and talk.rape, where people say we are basically a bunch of 
>> perverted evil neofacist multiple rapists. It's always good cming back to a.t, where people are
> 
> Of course, if you ARE a pervertd evil neofascist multiple rapist, this
> would be a good place to come out, and relate a few stories.  Or at least
> tell some hazing stories. 
	Here we go:
First, they paddle their pledges (I know a guy who had this done to him, 
actually, more than one.) This might not seem tasteless to you, but you 
should see the paddle-ee try to sit down!
	Second, they must call any brother "sir" and do whatever he asks.
	Third (and most tasteless) they make their pledges run a race through 
the city... IN THE SEWERS! And Halifax dosen't even treat their sewage! You 
can imagine the ill effects of such an activity. Euuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
	One more little tale. I remember last summer I lived next door to them,
and one Friday night two of them were drunk and standing in the middle of
Robie Street ( Big street in Halifax). They were having an argument about
who was smarter:
Brother A: I'm smarter
Brother B: No, *I'm* smarter
Brother A: No, *I'M* smarter.

At this point, Brother A grabs Brother B by the neck and bangs heads with him

*CRACK!*

Thusknocking brother B out and ,presumably, knocking so many IQ points outta
brother B that brother A's intellectual superiority is assured.
Well, gotta go. 
Later
Mike
--end included post--
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: antipope@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (charless@scol.sco.com)
Subject: Re: Recent Peeve
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:07:07 GMT

<LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Hey Curtis, by your definition of a "wankhole" and your last post to me, all I
> have to say is whadda be up fellow wanker:)You could have saved up all that spa
> ce by just saying something like "hey dude, no offense", "I'm sorry buttwad" or
> anything similiar would have been cool.  But thanks for the explano.  Oh yeah,
> to answer your ?'s..I'm a sophomore majoring in Microbiology, but my roommate i
> s in computer geek err science :)
> 
> Since you didn't mean to offend, then I take back my previous posts (I thought
> they were pretty funny though), but I sure did piss off the homo's..go figure.

To the un-named roommate:

Nice try, but no banana. I don't believe that even a clueless sophomore
from  PSU could be _that_ dumb. It failed my Turing Test evaluation
suite on several counts -- notably the semantic context link test and
sexual ignorance scan -- and I'd be willing to bet that it'd fail 
the Microbiology papers as well. On the other hand, you nearly had me 
convinced that it was human for the first couple of posts. Not bad
for an LALR-grammar generator. Oh, and you'll have to work on LXP111's
line-wrap buffer; he doesn't seem to come across on dumb terminals.

(CLUE for the humor-impaired: LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu comes across like
a broken AI attempt at a frat-boy emulator. I'm therefore giving him
the benefit of the doubt by assuming that he's the product of one of his
nameless room-mate's programming courses ... the alternative is too
horrible to contemplate, although euthanasia might be suitable solution.)

Pip pip ...

Charlie

-- 
Antipope -- HE gives you Bull, I give you the Straight ... er ....
From: williams@ug.cs.dal.ca (Nevin E. Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Campus bar peeve
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:01:40 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <28191@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
>
>ObItuary: I'm afraid that any pearls of wisdom emerging from Dalhousie will
>now fall on deaf ears, for me at least, since that site has joined soton
>in my kill file. A sad necessity in order to increase the signal-to-noise
>ration in my news reading!

>-- 
>===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

We'll miss you!
	Nevie

ObPeeve: Waking up at 11:30 to go to class, trundling up in the bitter
	 cold, only to find that class is cancelled, the terminal room
	 is full, and Jeremy has kill-filed me.

| *---------*	I'm the same Ol' Nevin.  The only difference is that now  |
|  \       /	I'm  enjoying  my  life.  Is  this  such  a  bad  thing?  |
|   \     /	I didn't choose.    Who actually chooses to be opressed?  |
|    \   /	I  certainly  didn't  wish   to  make  my  life  harder.  |
|     \ /	But  I've  certainly  made  my  life  more   worthwhile.  |
|      *Nevin Williams      williams@ug.cs.dal.ca    Bitnet:nwilli@dalac  |
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Teddy Bear with a Hard-On)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: And just what the fuck do Canuks know about beer?
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:25:28 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:

>In article <5841@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (All of our represanatives are still busy; please continue to hold) writes:
>>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>>
>>>You failed making HOME BREW?  How the hell did you manage that. It's a pretty
>>>straight-forward process.  I would have thought if you learned anything at
>>>a Canadian University (and clearly *you* haven't), you'd learn the proper
>>>respect and handling of beer.
>>
>>And where did you get this idea that Canadians know anything about beer?
>>
>>They live in a cold climate and can't brew a decent ale.
>>
>>They get hot in the summer and can't even make a decent lager to drink.

>	I beg to differ.  

>	Most American beers are available up here for the same price as 
>Canadian beer, but the Canadian beer still outsells the American stuff.  As 
>well, when my father was in New Orleans a few years back, a guy in a bar asked
>him where he was from.  When Dad said Halifax, the guy said, "Oh yeah - that's
>where they make Moosehead," which was a very popular beer down there (or so
>they guy told Dad).

Goddamn, Shawn-boy, haven't you ever bin to Newawlins?  Ever drank a bottle
of Dixie Beer?

Case closed.
-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Broken hand peeve
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:27:04 GMT

All right, I alluded to it in a previous posting.

I said I had a peeve, but would put it on hold until I was able to find
more humor in it.  Well, here it is.

A few postings back, I mentioned the not-so-insignificant-feat of having
caught a hockey puck outta the air.  'Tis true.  Week before last, I went
to a hockey game here in my lovely native hometown and proceeded to get
wildly drunk with a friend of mine.  Indeed, I was on the way to getting
babsed.

Our seats are just behind the goal.  Real suck seats, but they were free
and I didn't care.  We were up just high enough to see most of the action.

So just about the beginning of the third period, after I have just
finished off my latest brew, I start to get all tense, jittery, and
nervous at the lack of any canoe piss.  My nerves and senses are all at
a heightened fever pitch.  I was getting my second wind.  I had drank
myself sober.  The adrenaline was kicking in.

So just about that time, there's a real mother of a slap shot which
flies up and ricochets off the side wall and right up toward me.  In
the time it would normally take to even THINK about thinking, this
shiny, wet black thing comes toward my head.  It was flipping over,
as I recall in slow-motion total recall.  So I reached up to protect
myself with both hands and came back down with a puck.

People all around were staring at my dumb ass and I even heard a guy
in back of me say, "Damn!  That guy CAUGHT the puck!"

Well, it was no treat, let me tell you!  I was numbed by the force of
the thing and by the alcohol at the time, but it wasn't long before
I could feel my pulse rate in my right hand, the one in front at the
time of the "incident."  I felt that as we were riding home on the
transit train.  In fact, I was in agony the next morning and decided
to go see the doctor.

X-rays confirmed the only injuries to be a serious strain.  The x-ray
tech said "it probably wouldn't hurt as much if you had broken it."
When I told the guy how I hurt myself, he laughed and said he didn't
even know that there was a pro hockey team in town.  He looked to be
more of a basketball or football type.  Big tall guy.

Well, it didn't hurt so bad after I started taking some non-narcotic,
non-Class II drugs.  I'll have to look at the label to see what it is,
but it isn't anything worthwhile as far as I can tell except to
alleviate swelling and some pain.  'course one has a warning that
says "Don't drink alcohol with this."  A real bitch to ignore that
label, let me tell you.  It's like an invitation - you will feel
BETTER if you mix this drug with alcohol.

I've hurt my hand like this before and it always hurts for a long time.
And I can type, just about as fast as normal but with more errors.

Anybody else here ever hurt their widdle hand like that?  An impact
injury, I mean?  Ow!
--
No, you do not know me.
Yes, I KNOW I look like someone you know.  - Bill Berbenich, net.hedonist
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Steve Franklin
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:07:03 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
NNTP-Posting-Host: anaconda.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov17.185845.27537@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>
>Mike has turned into a human being of substance and wit.

I agree; I think a few of his posts lately have definitely met
minimum standards for Character, and once he learns that
quality is a greater virtue than quantity he should be a
reasonably valued citizen.  After all, what's a village without
an idiot?

And a note to Ted Frank, leech-aspirant: your spelling
may trump Mikey's, but your character is not discernibly
superior.  If you insist on throwing your own shit you
should not be surprised when the primate keepers start
feeding you bananas and Monkey Chow.

c
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Broken hand peeve
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:09:29 GMT

In <1992Nov16.172704.1522@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:

>'course one has a warning that
>says "Don't drink alcohol with this."  A real bitch to ignore that
>label, let me tell you.  It's like an invitation - you will feel
>BETTER if you mix this drug with alcohol.

Hmmm.  I always thought that was the doctor's way of telling you
"If this isn't strong enough, have a stiff drink.  That should
help.  If that still doesn't work, give me a call, and we'll
dig into the _good_ stuff."

ObPeeve: constant pain.  Once in a while I pull a muscle in my
neck, which hurts like a bitch for about 3 days.

!peeve: even if the first prescription is good enough, it never hurts
to call the doctor and tell 'em that you still have pain, could they
please write you up for something else, preferably twice as strong, 
and with a bunch of refills.


--
|   Michael G. Hart                   mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil    |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
|     You think _I_ speak for the government or the navy?  HAH!      |
| Aviation, computers, quality improvement, Northern Exposure, money |
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: JENNY'S LESSON IN FLAMING
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 16 Nov 1992 23:32:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com
Keywords: I HATE DICKHEADS



>In article <BxqpBH.3EA@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu 
(Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:

>
>Sorry Jim, but much as I like Jenny's attempts, Banta and JZ are
>the flame-masters of alt.peeves; Geoff Miller can be a very close third


Well, Dan'l, it so happens that Banta, JZ and I got together for lunch
today, and after discussing it, we decided that we disagree with your
assessment.



Geoff


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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Teases
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Likes things that do stuff
Distribution: alt.peeves
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:50:14 GMT


In article <LARRY.92Nov18040802@peak.psl.nmsu.edu>, larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu 
(Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) forgets the important stuff:
[rave review of a museum of nifty goodies deleted]

GIF! GIF! GIF! and more GIF!

--
Nolan "Hardware fan" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: Re: Space Age Outerwear and a challenge
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.150740.16414@wetware.com> CatWoman writes:

>] 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>] >>>Oh, and one other thing, Cutris. I hereby challenge you to a GIF contest.

>ObPeeve:  Is this what my nephews will grow up to be?
>ACK!

Not to worry, Diana, it's only a stage they'll pass through on the way.
Mikey's just a late bloomer.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "She Broke My Heart So I Busted Her Jaw" 
rickg@netcom.com |   --- One of those country songs you never hear anymore
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