HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: steve@cbmtor.uucp (Steve Vetzal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 QC problems?
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:51:07 GMT
Organization: Commodore Business Machines (CANADA)

The normal orientation of the fan in the A4000 is blowing outward. From what I
understand, this is more efficient at cooling, and avoids getting dust in the 
machine 8-).

						Steve Vetzal
From: Neon@cup.portal.com (Anthony Joseph Bruder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Data/Instruction Cache & BURST modes on 68030? Why/when?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:55:56 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In an article posted 12/22 Dave Martin writes:
>
>Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:
>> You should leave the setting  alone!  A small tutorial is in order!
>> SetPatch will setup the system correctly so that the caches and burst
>> are correct for the Amiga. 
>
>The question was about setting caches for a CSA Mega-Midget Racer.  Setpatch 
>may set the caches for A2620/30s and for A3000 and A4000 systems but it cannot
>set the caches for the MMR.  SETPATCH runs long before the MMR initialization
>program.  Either SETCPU (for 1.3) or CPU (for 2.0 and up) should be used to 
>change the cache states with the MMR.  SETCPU was included with my MMR 
>utilities disk but nothing was explained about using it.  I run CPU in my 
>user-startup to enable instruction and data caching and to copy the kickstart
>kickstart rom to 32 bit DRAM (I have a MMU in my MMR).
>
>Dave Martin - dkm@col.hp.com


Well not necessarily so.  I put the MMR configuration program as the first 
entry in my startup sequence as recommended in the MMR instruction manual:

c:setpatch >NIL:                                  
c:version >NIL:                                                
addbuffers >NIL: df0: 15                                       
addbuffers >NIL: df1: 15

This allows setpatch to turn on both the instruction and data caches.  In
my system (An A500, MMR w/4Megs 32bit ram.) SysInfo shows a definite speed
increase with both caches enabled.  Turning on the burst modes has no effect
according to SysInfo.

Tony Bruder - neon@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: A500 + some drives
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:23:02 GMT

Jason.Price@launchpad.unc.edu (Jason Price) writes:

> How the heck can I hook up more than 1 external 3.5 drive to my A500?
> What equipment would I need?

 
There *should* be a pass-through connector on the rear of the drive (my 
SupraDrive has one...) that should allow you to connect that second (or 
third) external drive onto your machine.
 
Beware that you might have some problems with power-supply loading; it 
seems as if the supply was really only designed to run one external drive 
(along with the rest of the junk...), so you might want to try it and 
see, it might possibly work well for you (never did that myself...)


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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 Technical question
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:29:15 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec29.175902.7596@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dcantrel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel T Cantrell) writes:
> I was hoping someone could answer a question I have about the inside
> of an A1200.  I know the 44 pin connector on the motherboard is an
> IDE interface with the standard 4 power pins built in.  What I am
> not sure of is what the 40 pin connector sitting next to the DOS 
> ROMs.  

It's one of two "memory expansion" connectors that you could have
used if there was only 1 M-byte of memory installed in the system.
Since all system are shipping with 2 M-byte, only the connector
which allows adding a real-time clock is installed.

-- 
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but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
From: matthewd@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Matthew Davidian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Response to CBM re:Poor Media coverage
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:53:54 GMT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

In article <CLIN.92Dec21170222@jade.tufts.edu> clin@jade.tufts.edu (Chuck (Satch) Lin) writes:
>
>The average 1st time computer buyer walks into a store
>(note: there are very few amiga dealers anywhere)
>and looks at the pretty picture on the screen.
   [stuff deleted]
>person who has never touched a computer. How about making the
>OS use a 640x480x256 screen? 

Haven't you heard of AGA?  I agree though, how good the display looks
is vital.  I wouldn't recommend the Amiga to anyone doing productivity
oriented stuff using NTSC resolution interlaced or not.  A non-interlaced
NTSC rez display looks plain crappy next to a VGA clone or Mac, and
interlaced displays are too distracting to get any work done.  I feel that
the A1200 is very significant in this regard; it's the first home computer
from Commodore capable of putting out VGA (and better) quality displays 
*out of the box*.  Kudos on that score.  (and I'm not considering the 3000
a home computer in this case)

>How about setting a standard for icon
>colors and sizes. Some applications have icons that take up the entire
>screen! That is just stupid! This is the only way to attract

Agreed again about icon sizes...but, Commodore has recommended a maximum
size:  80x40 in the User Interface Style Guide, and Icon Edit enforces
this size.  Colors are another thing though.  Unless WB 3.0 has changed it,
it seems Commodore is only concerned with standardizing the first four
colors in the palette; everybody and their grandma has their own 8/16
color scheme, and it makes it tough transporting 8/16 color icons 
around.

Matt Davidian
matthewd@csufres.csufresno.edu
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: MaXtor 310M hard disk
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 15:02:23 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Hi. I have got hold of a Maxtor 310m hard disk model XT-4380E
>
>I do not know what type of controller will drive it, though a friend thinks
>it is possible rrl compatible. Does any body have any information about these
>drives that might enlighten me.

I have the 4380S, and it is SCSI, so I assume the 4380E is an ESDI
drive. You'll need an ESDI<->SCSI converter to use it with an Amiga
(and a SCSI controller as well).

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: s37732v@snakemail.hut.fi (Markus Juhani Aalto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WB2.1 & Rexxmast
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:29:14 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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In-reply-to: jwalkup@terapin.com's message of 27 Dec 92 23:00:56 PST

In article <jwalkup.2yxz@terapin.com> jwalkup@terapin.com (Jeff Walkup) writes:

   Rick_Lang@amusers.UUCP (Rick Lang) writes:

   > This is a good change since many people would comment [Rexxmast] out of the
   > Startup-sequence file in order to custom define their rexx environment
   > via user-startup which was executed before the WB2.0 rexxmast.


   I don't know if it's good or not.  I mean, ARexx *doesn't work* until
   you go hacking around in your Startup-Seq.  Most people don't like to mess
   with that (or don't know _how_ to mess with it).

Its easier to copy it to WBStartup directory from Workbench. No need to
hack Startup-Sequence. And you really shouldn't hack Startup-Sequence anyway,
because User-Startup is made for hacking in KS2.0 and up.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: 1960 Problems
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:03:26 GMT

David_Queen@amicol.UUCP (David Queen) writes:

>The screen on my 1960 is way off to the right using my 4000. Using the
>h.phase
>control will get some screens only 1/2 inch too far to the right.
>Mainly I have problems with productivity (sp?) mode and the higher res
>stuff.
>Anyone got any sujestions?

>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

>If I couldn't think of a good tag line WHY did I do this?

yes use the vgaonly monitor type and the .5 inch problem should go away.

Martin

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Backing up on a VCR
From: robi@md2.huji.ac.il (Dr. Wartenfeld Robi)
Date: 3 Jan 1993 18:15 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

     Hello.
  I once saw some instructions on building an interface whuch allows
connecting the amiga parallel port to a Video Cassette recorde and backing up
the hard disk to the VCR.  If anyone has those instructions please send a
copy to me.
     Thanks.
        Robi.
From: bv077@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerry Michael Mullins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: AdIDE and VXL-030
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:57:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	Does anyone know if the AdIDE hard drive interface works
with the VXL-030 accelerator in an A-500? All responses are
appreciated. If there is sufficient interest I will summarize
replies.

-- 
Gerry Mullins:  gmullins@dom1.nuwes.sea06.navy.mil
                (206) 396-6148 = Days
                (206) 692-1439 = Evenings (Pacific time)

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From: schaefer@disuns2.epfl.ch (Marc Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Adaptec SCSI controller for A1000, manufacturer address ?
Keywords: adaptec,a1000,scsi,address
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:24:03 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Suisse

Hi.

I'm looking for the address of the firm which was making the SCSI host
adapted ADAPTEC for the A1000.

Thanks to mail it to schaefer@di.epfl.ch if you have it.

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From: runelord@prax.EBay.Sun.COM (David B. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A4000 Capabilities
Date: 24 Dec 1992 20:36:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Federal
Distribution: world
Reply-To: runelord@prax.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: prax.ebay.sun.com

Could someone please post a description of the A4000?

--Dave
From: Wayne_Paugh@mindlink.bc.ca (Wayne Paugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Help needed with SyQuest SQ555 removable media HD
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:00:09 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

After doing a low level format from HDTOOLBOX all you have to do is do a
standard format on the disk form the workbench screen as you do on a standard
floppy. The disk will then be called EMPTY and is useable.

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Address: Wayne_Paugh@mindlink.bc.ca

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From: baron@swamp.alt.ns.ca (Jason Burgess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: For sale..
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 09:53:44 AST
Organization: The Swamp Public UUCP +1 (902) 461-4773

                           ----------------
                           -   For Sale   -
                           ----------------
 
 Item: PRO-34 Radio Scanner
 
 
 Specs:  * Covers 29Mhz-54Mhz 108-136Mhz 136.005-174Mhz
                  380-512Mhz 806-960Mhz
 
         * 2-second Scan delay
         * Memory backup for channel entries
         * Lockout function
         * Ten Channel Storage Banks
         * Priority Channel
         * Direct Frequency Search
         * Hi-Speed search
         * Monitor banks
 
 In excellent condition! Hardly used [30hrs]! [That's why I am selling 
it]
 Asking $300 (Candian) FIRM.
 No box. Has manual.
 
 Reply if interested.
From: chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Location of PAL/NTSC jumper/solder pad NEEDED for A600/HD.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:24:27 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

gerrit@laosinh.stgt.sub.org (Gerrit Heitsch) writes:

- In article <1mgHwB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, Chris Ringe writes:
-
- > I am in desparate need to find the solder pad for ntsc/pal configurations o
- > the motherboard.  As far a I can tell, there is only on pad.  Perhaps it ma
- > just a trace that needs to be modified.  CBM felt it a cost saving measure
- > not include the schematics for the A600 in the manual.  I could just trace
- > back from the AGNUS, however a solder pad would be easier...
- Sorry, but there is no solder pad to switch between NTSC and PAL in an
- A600, the AGNUS (8375) used in this computer has no pin for it.
- You can only switch between PAL and NTSC by software. :-(
-
- The reason for this? Ask C=, why they do not bond out the PAL/NTSC-pin
- on the 8375...
-
- Gerrit
-
Thanks for the info.  I find this strange since my machine was
produced/assembled in Germany.  It would be hardly cost worthy to produce two
versions of the A600 motherboard - (PAL/NTSC).


Chris Ringe       (VE6MCP)
St. Albert, Alberta, CANADA
MAIL: chrisr@ersys.edm.ab.ca
PHONE: (403) 460-PLAY/7529
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: C.Itoh printers
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 20:27:49 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <3563@carroll1.cc.edu>, Randy Kruszka writes:

> Hello (and happy new year!)  I have a C.Itoh Prowriter printer (kinda old
> now, I admit) that I used to use on my A1000.  It worked pretty good so
> when I upgraded recently I figured I could just "hook it up".  Well, it
> did not work and I discovered that the cables (and correspondingly pinouts)
> were different.  I replaced my A1000 cable with a A2000/500 cable and it
> still does not work.  I tried the printer on a friends A3000, another's
> A2000, and eventually my A4000.  It strangely worked on the friends '286
> laptop fine.  Do I need a '286???  :) :)

No, mine worked fine on my A2000 until I got my laserprinter.  I'm sure that
it would work again if I hooked it up again.  Recheck your cabling.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: External HD Floppies
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:11:13 GMT
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Jim Omura (jimomura@tndb.UUCP) wrote:

:      Apparently, the reason why the A1200 doesn't have an HD floppy
: is because the A4000 drives were too tall.  But that's only important
: for the low profile A1200 case.  An external floppy could be any
: height, so long as some manufacturer made a case to fit.  So the question
: I have is whether anybody knows of any company who has announced an
: external 1.7 Meg external floppy which would be usable on an A1200
: or, more to my interest, on an A500 with with DOS 2.1?

: --

: Jim Omura, (416) 652-3880
: 'jimomura@lsuc'

Why in gods name do you need a case??  (I don't know, it may be just me, but
I don't consider a computer a real computer unless its got wires running all 
over, and etc....  You don't even want to hear about what my 500 looks like)


I've got an external thats on the fritz.... Could I buy the 1200, pull the
low density 3.5 from inside it, replace just the drive itself from the
external with the one from the 1200, stuff my 3.5" IDE HD into where the
floppy used to go, and buy a high density, throw it on top of the 1200,
with a cable connecting the the hd floppy with the connector inside the 
1200 and expect the whole thing to work?  Oh yeah, and one more thing...
How's the power supply in the 1200?  Do I need to hook up my IBM ps if I've
got, oh, say an HD, a high density floppy, a low density one, and four
megs of ram in a PCMCIA card (bringing the total to 6 megs? am I right?)
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with Accelerator needed
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 08:53:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

It would help if you told us what kind of accelerator!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: How to put a CLock in A1200
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:09:38 GMT
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Jeff Easton (easton@zds-oem.zds.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan1.081253.28607@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
: >Jeff Easton (easton@zds-oem.zds.com) wrote:
: >: In article <1992Dec31.070125.18936@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: >: >Since the clock has a seperate conector than the FAST-Ram slot, is there
: >: >an easy way to add one?

: >: Plug the mythical clock module into the exposed header.  Reverse the
: >: procedure to put it back together.
: >
: >:   Has anyone announced a clock module that plugs in here?
: >
: >Are you trying to tell me that the 1200 doesn't come with a f**king clock?

: Yup.

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To C= people:   Why the fuck?
		How the fuck?
		When... you get the picture.... Why was this allowed to happen?
			even bottom of the line ibm clones have f**king clocks!
From: bob@bpamiga.pegasus.com (Bob Proffitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: Phone Line Interface Hardware
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:38:48 HST
Organization: Amiga Hawaii Users' Group

In article <1h5v86INNsib@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> kar5@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin A. Roll) writes:
>
>I need to know if any hardware exists for interfacing an Amiga to a phone line.
>It must provide these features:
>
>- Recognize incoming call and signal machine
>- Pick up the phone line when told
>- Connect an audio source (Amiga sound outputs) to the phone line
>- Provide touch-tone recognition
>
>A modem would handle the first three, but falls flat on its face for tone
>recognition. This hardware must cost < $129 and hook to an Amiga port,
>pref. serial, parallel, or PCMCIA.
>
>Getting my hands on such a device may mean using an Amiga in a big project
>instead of (GASP) a PC clone. Can anyone out there help?
>
The GVP PhonePak does what you ask.  I saw the ad for one in last
month's Amazing Computing, and had my local dealer bring one in.
It comes configured as a smart answering machine that also does voice
mail and FAX.  The cost is $399, mail order, and it fits in a Zorro II
slot.
--

Bob Proffitt, KH6C     Pearl City, Hawaii      bob@bpamiga.pegasus.com
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From: kar5@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin A. Roll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: MODEM With DTMF Recognition
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:59:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kar5@po.CWRU.Edu (Kevin A. Roll)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Can some people out there E-mail me with the cheapest modem you know of
that provides DTMF tone recognition? I'm still examining hardware for this
project...

Also, what's the best way to get a cheap Amiga with 2 serial ports? Can
it be done on the 600? Cost is a prime factor here, cheapest is best...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cshort@nmsu.edu (MetaPope, Internet in a Day Tour.)
Subject: amiga in a sun case
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:46:22 GMT


well, i've taken the plunge and purchased a sun 3/60 case to mount my
500 in. i'll post full write ups when the move is complete. this will
be post xmass.

if anyone has any helpfull advice on the process, let me know.

thanks.


c.
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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Data/Instruction Cache & BURST modes on 68030? Why/when?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 11:06:15 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec22.185840.10367@bmerh85.bnr.ca>

I thought that is what I said!  
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From: jdblake@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John David Blake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: QUESTION: Do I wait for 3.1 or get 2.04??????????
Date: 26 Dec 1992 08:06:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: jdblake@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Okay; thanks to all of you who responded to my first inquiry regarding the
2.04 ROMs. (please continue, if you wish!) My new questions are:



      Should I wait for the 3.1 ROMs to come out instead of buying 2.04?

                                      and

        How much more than $50 do you think the 3.1 ROMs would cost?

                                      and

      Would it be worth it / possible to run 3.1 on a 500 w/out an hd?



By the way, I have a 1 meg a500 w/out hd, 1 external floppy, NOT a lot of
money.

jdblake@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Subject: desktop publisher?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 06:25:46 GMT

     Finally, I am currently using Final Copy II and I 
like it very much.  However, It fell short of being a
desktop publisher and I need it for my newsletters
(AM.SIG biannual and the ANIMECAT).  Can someone recommend
the additional softwares I need for turn my A4000 into
a desktop publisher? (Desktop video is already in the
works :-) ).

            Thank-You very much.

                                        -TKH '92