HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Re: suggestions for an indoor trainer?
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo, tcejorP Project.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.112519.334@mis.mcw.edu> jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu writes:

 |I prefer rollers over stationary trainers:  
 |Plus: better training since they emphsize straight-line riding not just 
 |leg power.  Requires a bit more attention, but still *BORING*
 |Minus: more expensive, noisier, eassier to crash

I agree completely.  I used to ride Tacx SpeedBraker rollers.  Two on
the back one on the front.  Not only were they good for improving
straight riding, they improve balance and I found my pedalling
improved.  If I didn't pedal in reasonably nice circles, the big
rubber band that goes from the front to the back would start to
vibrate.  No danger just a visible cue that I wasn't pedalling
circles.  If you really hammer you start rocking back and forth
(forwards and backwards).  Could be a drawback but you have to be
riding pretty radically for it to be a problem.

Crashing in you living room is a very interesting experience.

 |On recommendation for "Walkman" or bicycling videotapes:
 |I use TV, VCR and headphones - but avoid good bicycling films and films with
 |car chases.  I crashed watching "Breeaking Away", when I tried to follow the
 |rider on the screen through a corner (-:

If you live in a house (as oppose to apartment), buy an amp with 100+
Watts per channel, some really rocking CDs and go to it.  I actually
use to like riding that way cause the music would really get me going
(and distract me from the pain).  Wish I could listen to music on the
road but seems a little too dangerous.


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atode, |m         -- What?  Doesn't everyone want a prosthetic forehead?
From: vinnie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Vince Bafetti)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Trek 830: Opinions, prices...
Date: 6 Oct 1992 08:15:24 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

	I like the Trek 830 as a good low-end mountain bike...what
do other, more experienced cyclists think? What are things I should
look for on used ones, and what is a good price to pay (new or used)?

	Any info or discussion will be helpful.

	Looking for a bike,

			Vince Bafetti
			vinnieb@ssl.berkeley.edu
			vinnie@ocf.berkeley.edu
			510-235-0838
From: afadp1@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Grafton 170mm Cranks
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad2.1992Oct4.110502.1
Organization: University of Alaska

Never mind that previous posting! I really want Grafton 170mm Cranks.
Preferably 1991 model. I'm willing to pay $200 for Speed Sticks. I need them by
November! Just send E-mail.     Andie
/
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: pan@panda.Stanford.EDU (Doug Pan)
Subject: For sale: '88 Trek 600
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:10:45

1988 Trek 600 for sale, featuring:

    - Shimano 600 parts
    - Reynolds 531 frame (49 cm)
    - Very low mileage
    - $250 (was $600 new)

Bike is in very good condition.  I would have bought it if it fit me
better.

Call Jay, (415) 497-5564 (answering machine available by weekend)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: alain@CS.Stanford.EDU (Alain FIDANI)
Subject: FOR SALE: 10 speed woman road bike
Organization: Robotics Department, Stanford University, Ca. USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:49:27 GMT

I'll go back to FRANCE at the end of the month and I want to sell my bike before.
It is a 10 speed YOKOTA road bike. I bought it a year ago and it is still in very good
condition.
It cost me $159 and I'd like to sell it for $99.

	my phone is : (415)-856-2146 (Home)
		      (415)-725-8809 (Work)

Keywords:
From: jdg40@pecan.spa.amdahl.com (Jeff Gee)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Campy Athena parts for sale
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:22:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation  Sunnyvale, CA

For Sale:
		1991 Campagnolo Athena rear derailleur
		and shift levers (7-speed indexing).

		Used only 6 months.

		Selling to upgrade to C-Record.

		$45/offer

		Replies:	Jeff Gee
				jdg40@spa.amdahl.com
				(408) 746-8304
From: r.g.olsen@att.com (Ron Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Fibars
Keywords: good stuff
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:35:02 GMT
Reply-To: r.g.olsen@att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Denver CO

Fibars (and Fibar-AM) are one of my main foods for bike rides and hikes,
along with Performance Energy bars and honeyed pineapple (yum!).
Fibars come in a variety of flavors, are very tasty, moist, and easy
to chew.  My favorites are the strawberry-oatmeal and almond,
the apple, the cocoa-almond crunch, and several others I can't
think of right now.

Fibars are higher in fat than most PowerBar clones,
and don't have as high a level of added vitamins.

Here's the nutritional analysis of one bar of
Strawberry-Oatmeal & Almond Fibar AM:

calories: 150
protein: 3g
carbohydrates: 24g
fat: 4g
cholesterol: 0g
sodium: 30mg
potassium: 190mg
dietary fiber: 5g

Percent USRDA
protein: 6%
vitamin A: 15%
vitamin C: 15%
thiamine: 15%
riboflavin: 15%
niacin: 15%
calcium: 10%
iron: 15%
vitamin D: 10%
vitamin B6: 15%
folic acid: 15%
vitamin B12: 15%
phosphorus: 10%
magnesium: 10%
zinc: 4%
copper: 4%

	Ron Olsen
	Boulder, Colorado
	r.g.olsen@att.com
From: irobinso@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Ian Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: FOR SALE: Linear recumbent bike
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:18:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

***FOR SALE*** 1990 LINEAR RECUMBENT

"Linear" aluminum recumbent bike ("Best selling recumbent" - Recumbent
Cyclist Magazine), manufactured by Kann Manufacturing, Guttenberg, IA.
18 speed (indexed, Suntour XC Sport w/ thumb-shifters), long-wheelbase
(~66", 20" front and 27" rear wheel), under-seat steering. Frame is
adjustable to most body sizes, and folds for easier transportation
(which is definitely a cosideration given the length of long-wheelbase
recumbents), silver anodized finish.  Good condition - only 1.5K-2K
miles, asking $500 - you pick up (they're currently ~$950 new).  

Call Ian at 415 857-3811 (Palo Alto area).

(Apologies in advance if this posting does not get restricted to the
SF Bay area - I don't want to ship it)

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Ian Robinson, HP Labs. Palo Alto	irobinson@hpl.hp.com
From: susanm@.WV.TEK.COM (Susan Merklin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Cannondale Delta V Suspension Bikes
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:30:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1863
Reply-To: susanm@marketeer.WV.TEK.COM (Susan Merklin)
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization

In article <56270@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rafael@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ralph Grundler) writes:
>
>  I have heard that Canondale did recall some of thier Delta V bikes 
>  because of the stembreaking. ( I read this in Mountain Bike Action 
>  june or july)
>

Cannondale did not recall the whole bikes -- they only recalled the stems.
Basically you take your bike to place of purchase and they install a new
stem for free.   They have since shipped all bikes with new stems and there
is no current cause for concern.   They caught the problem real early in 
the shipment of the 92 DELTA V series so according to our Cannondale rep
there were not many to replace (mostly bike shops stock rather than actual
customers).   I found it interesting that the bike magazines published
the recall 2 MONTHS after the fact!!!   I attribute that to "time to press".

I have a DELTA V 1000 so if you have any questions please feel free to
email.

Susan Merklin
susanm@orca.wv.tek.com
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Trek 1000 road Bike
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:19:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com


I have a Trek 1000 available.  This bike is in the
most EXCELLENT of condition - extremely clean.  The bike
measures 21" from the center crank.  The bike is 
basic stock bike, suntour 4050 components, suntour
ovaltech center crank, Matrix tires and rims and
a Vetta seat. The bike comes with 'Look' pedals and
a new pair of women's size 6.5 'Diadora' biking
shoes.  This bike operates in 14 speeds.

If you have an inseam of 32-34" this bike should 
fit you perfectly.

This bike has less than 200 miles on it and has been
stored inside its entire life.

I am asking $275.

I live in Oakland, CA.

Joyce

work (510) 769-2470
home (510) 832-0376
From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: bars, was  Comments on "Performance Bars" ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:21:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <PERLEY.92Oct5150407@trub.crd.ge.com>, perley@trub.crd.ge.com
(Donald P Perley) wrote:

> Anyone have an opinion (rhetorical question) on Fibars? From wrapper
> reading it looks like about half a power bar at less than half the
> price (in terms of calories/protien/carb/fat/fiber/weight).  They run
> about $3 for a box of 6, so they are in the Snickers ballpark, but a
> lot lower fat.

I like Fibars -- my wife keeps them around for snacks -- but I wouldn't use
them for cycling food because of the high fiber content.  One of the
reasons fiber is good for you is it has a laxative effect, which is not
what I want when I'm riding.

I've noticed that quite a lot of the bars sold to cyclists have this
problem, which suggests to me that either the manufacturers don't know
anything about cycling or they are products originally made for some other
market.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Wow!
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Buy Sell Trade
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:03:11 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Bike Stuff for Marketplace transactions-- Buy/Sell/Trade



Buy (I want)

Campi Rear Track Hub (36 hole)

180 mm Road Cranks (Dura-Ace or Campi preferred)



Sell or Trade (You want)

Campi Front Derailleur (Triomphe clip-on) $25.00 (similar to chorus)

Campi (Victory) 170mm Cranks 52/42 Condition-Good (Scratched) $60.00

Var shop chain rivet tool  (aprox 4.5" long) $10.00

 


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Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: unpalomb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Nicholas Palombo)
Subject: Trek 2300 Frameset 50cm center to top $475 or best
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:17:31 GMT

Hello again. I'm back with another good bike deal.

I have a 50cm (measured center to top) Trek 2300 frameset in the Lunar
blue for sale. It comes with the Trek aluminum fork and includes
headset and bottom bracket.

It has not been ridden. It was assembled as a bike, but the components
were sold off to a club rider. 

I am asking $475. Email with offers.

Nick Palombo
unpalomb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Vistalight VL-400 headlight: First Impressions
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:12:21 GMT
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA

In article <1992Oct5.134943.9775@athena.mit.edu> aviator@athena.mit.edu (Joakim Karlsson) writes:
>
>Btw, the VL430 system looks really nice.  6W halogen headlight,
>10W halogen high beam, 5 Ah (lead acid?) battery, battery case
>(mounts with straps to top tube/head tube/down tube junction),
>all for $99.95.  Run time is reportedly 5 hours at 6W, 2.5 hours
>at 10W, and 1.5 hours at 16W.  Weight is 2 lbs 15 oz (oh well).
>I'm thinking about buying it, but I don't wanna be an involuntary
>beta test site...  Anyone familiar with this system?  I haven't
>seen it any stores yet, only in Bike Nashbar's catalog.
>

I'll say this for VistaLite.

You need not worry about being a beta site.

They've lost money on me, making sure i was a _satisfied_ beta site.

  1: I couldn't attach the ordinary VL 300 to my Blackburn because i didn't
     think that the plastic stud and nut would clamp the Blackburn thin sheet
     metal clamp tightly enough to hold said metal clamp to the rack.  They
     swapped it even for one with an embedded metal nut, the 300C

  2: I bought a CueLite as soon as the product came out, because the 300 was
     too heavy for an application.  My bike has a removable specialized
     equipment rack whose rearmost extension is an unsupported 90cm piece of
     PVC pipe.  Naturally i need a light to mark my vehicle's rearmost point,
     but the 300 was heavy enough to cause too much flexing in that pipe.

     My first CueLite had a problem.  The bouncing up and down was enough to
     spoof the switch.  They sent a new CueLite, which seems to work.

No connection; just a satisfied customer.

-dk
From: tlh@isi.edu (Tom Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Comments on "Performance Bars" ?
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:10:42 GMT
Reply-To: tlh@batman.isi.edu (Tom Hamilton)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC-ISI

In article <truesdel-290992204524@aux-1.ics.uci.edu> truesdel@ics.uci.edu (R. Scott Truesdell) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.135706.11086@waikato.ac.nz>, jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
>wrote:
>>
>> I was in a sports shop yesterday and discovered a new type of 'power bar'
>> that's just been imported from the states. It's called a "Performance Bar"
>> and comes in a silver foil wrapper
>
>Sounds like the product of Performance Bicycles, a USA bike store chain
>that sells only their own brand of bicycles. Performance bicycles are 'ok'
>but never leading any technology races, IMHO.
>
>re: Performance Bars. We have had many of them donated to our trail
>maintenance days so I've breakfasted on them several times. Opinion: very
>dry. Takes a whole water bottle to choke one down. Tastes like baking soda.
>We all joke about the dryness and the taste. YECHH!!!
>
>BUT! They do provide good energy and satisfy hunger. We eat 'em when we
>have to and are glad to have them but we spend our own money on PowerBars.
>They give me good mileage at the expense of awful taste and mucho agua.
>
>Your mileage may vary...
>
>  --el scotto seco

Ah, the infamous 'turd bars' (tm). Least that's what some riding
friends and myself call em. Baking powder with a little cooking
chocolate for flavor.  Like many others I used to dine on 'power
bars' mostly but recently I've switched over to 'Cliff bars'. Unlike
power bars, they actually look like real food and taste pretty good,
my favorite being the apricot. They're also a bit cheaper and have
more carbo's per bar. 
Now for a question. I'd like to get some grease seals to rebuild some
old shimano exage mountain hubs. after 5 or 6 rebuilds the grease
seals won't stay in place anymore. Every shop I've asked say's they
can't get 'em and of course want to sell me a whole new hub or wheel.
I've got most of the mainstream catalogs (Nashbar, Colorado Cyclist,
Performance etc) all of which are no help. Is there a company that
handles or better yet specializes in parts for people that like to
do their own wrenching? 

Cheers,

Tom Hamilton
UofSoCal                      "Quayle Ale - The beer with no head"
InfoSciInst
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: gordon@athena.mit.edu (Gordon S. W. Craig)
Subject: MB-0 & MB-1 : cracks in frame
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:29:29 GMT

Could somebody send me a summary of the discussion on cracks in Bridgestone
MB-0 or MB-1 frames.  It would be best if the person who had the frame problems
send me a brief description of the cracks.  A friend told me of some problems
with his Bridgestone Mountain Bike after I had deleted the original articles.

Thanks,
Gordon

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jrk@nittany.tcs.com (John Koper)
Subject: Bianchi Strada LX Road Bike (loaded) $150
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Keywords: Road Bike For Sale
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:29:31 GMT

1987 Bianchi Strada LX Road Bike for sale, includes:
        - Cr-Mo main frame
        - 10 speed
        - Suntour derailleurs
        - Shimano brakes
        - Sugino crankset
        - 25" frame
        - Mediterranean Blue color

Some of the extras include:
        - Avocet 30 computer
        - bike pump
        - water bottle & cage
        - under-seat pack
        - tire irons & spare kit
        - spare tube
        - new handlebar grips

The bike is in good shape.  I am asking $150 for everything .  I would keep it
but the apartment I am moving can't support two bikes :(.

-- 
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John Koper				| jrk@tcs.com
Software Engineer			| 2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA 94704
Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc.	| (510) 649-3592
From: SSDC2@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Re: WANTED: Trek 830: Opinions, prices...
News-Software: tBRUNO v0.9
Disclaim1: Brown University accepts no responsibility for the
Disclaim2: contents of this article.  Please do not sue us!
Organization: Brown University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:13:06 GMT

>From: vinnie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Vince Bafetti)
>Subject: WANTED: Trek 830: Opinions, prices...
>
>        I like the Trek 830 as a good low-end mountain bike...what
>do other, more experienced cyclists think? What are things I should
>look for on used ones, and what is a good price to pay (new or used)?

the Trek 830 is a good bike. they list for $450 (new), and come with
Shimano 300 LX derailleurs, shift levers, crankset, brakes, etc.

a good price to pay for a used one would depend on it's condition.

Janice"i love my Trek 930"G

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From: border@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Ryan A. Border)
Subject: Bay Area Sew-up repair
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:34:13 GMT
Distribution: ba

I've got a stash of good tubular tires (Corsa CG's, CX's, CL's) that
have lots of tread left on them but are either punctured, or have casing
cuts which need repair.  There was a time when I took pride in being able
to do these repairs- but now for $7 or so, it's really not worth the hassle
to me.

Plus, I'm pretty sure somebody who does this a lot, will do a better job
at the repairs/stitching than me, and I'll end up with a better tire
in the end.

So, who in the South Bay/Peninsula still does tubular repairs at a reasonable
price?  I don't mind paying a couple bucks more for superior workmanship...
_______________________________________________________________________________
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* Cray Research Inc., On Site Applications Analyst 415-604-4633  o__ o__      *
* Numerical Aerodynamic Simulator, NASA Ames Research Center    _.>/-.>/'_    *
* Never trust someone who can count to 1023 on their fingers.  ( ) \---\(*)...*
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From: v008pcqu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Patrick E Tuxbury)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: bike for sale
Keywords: cannondale
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     Hi everyone out in rec.bicycles.marketplace land.  I'm posting this article
for a friend of mine.  He's got a 1990 Cannondale that he wants to sell.  It's
in excellent condition - only ridden a few hundred miles.  It's red with just a
few places where the paint is chipped off and equiped with all Shimano 105 parts
(toe clip pedals, not clipless).  If anyone is interested, he's looking to sell
it for about $400.  E-mail me (V008PCQU@UBVMSB.CC.BUFFALO.EDU).  Thanks.
								patrick
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng)
Subject: Re: Allsop Suspension Stem Opinions wanted
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
	<1992Sep28.220137.20418@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
	<1992Sep30.160916.6601@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:02:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.160916.6601@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> wgns@troi.cc.rochester.edu (C. Wiggins) writes:

   [...]

   I'll be putting this thing through it's paces for the next few weeks,
   and I'll have more opinions (and probably some gripes) after I've put
   more miles on it.  If there's interest, I'll write up a little review.

I would be interested since I have found out what the disadvantage of
drop bars on fast rocky downhills when I want to keep my hands on the
brakes. :-(

Are there any mailorder sources for these stems or do I have to be
gouged by my local bike stores (CDN$225 = US$180 before taxes).
--

Spencer Cheng     scheng@BNR.CA  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada  613-763-4046
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: vito@inmet.camb (Robert McAllister)
Subject: Re: rapidfire to index changing: in the bike store??
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:10:17 GMT

Michael Dinsmore (dinsmm@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu) writes:
: 
: anyways, i do not like rapidfire shifters, and when i buy my bike  
: (within a week) i might have to buy a bike with them on it, 
: but hopefully be able to change them for index shifters before i
: leave the bike shop.  Has anyone done this before? what kind of deal 
: did the bike store give you?   i would think that they wouldn't charge
: you the full price for the new index shifters since you can give them the 
: brand new rapidfire shifters in return for the other shifters.
: i am curious how other people have worked this out, so i know 
: what to expect and not demand too much on the bike salesman when i 
: tell him i won't pay full price for the index shifters.
: thank you...
: 
: mike dinsmore
: dinsmm@rpi.edu
:
Well, I agree. The shop shouldn't charge you since they will be saving
money. Remember, though, that you will have to buy brake levers as the rapid 
fire includes brakes. Maybe you should tell them _before_ you but the 
bike, and negotiate it that way. You could always buy the index shifters
and brake levers, and sell the rapid fires to someone that _really_ wants
them. If you buy the index shifters seperately, look into mail order
places ( if you don't mind putting them on yourself ), because they are
usually cheaper than bike shops (about half the cost for the hardware in
my area).

Just my opinion.

vito

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