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From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Need evals of Bruins' John Blue
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:43:49 GMT
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Distribution: na
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


 In article <1993Jan23.093256.15911@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
|> 
|> For those if you who get to see a lot of Bruins games, I would like to hear
|> your impressions of Blue's performance in goal so far.  Is he or will he be
|> someone we can count on in the playoffs?
|> -- 
  In a word, no.

 Although Blue played well is his last two outings, (Pittsburg,Islanders) I
don't believe his style will allow him to become a top notch goalie. He flops
around like Reggie did whenever the puck gets near him. This will work against
teams with poor shooters and the defence clearing the rebounds. The Bruins
have played tighter defence when Blue has been in the nets because they know
that he will be down and out after stopping the first shot.

 His first game, a loss to Quebec (without Sakic,Sundin & Ricci) he only got to
handle 20 shots. The second, he was pulled midway through after allowing a goal
from the blueline. His first win came against Buffalo who were shut down
completely by inspired defense. He looked pretty good against Pitt, but you
could argue that Pitt wasn't there mentally - it was the first game after Mario's
announcement. His last assignment against the Islanders, I would say he was more
lucky than good. Several times the Islanders were in close and had Blue dead to
rights, but shot wide,right into Blue,or over the net. Twice shots that had him 
beat, hit his mask and deflected away. He did make some solid saves but let in
the tying goal that he should have stopped (50 footer through the legs).

 Once teams face him the second time, I think Blue will be in trouble. Of course
I could be wrong, and nobody would be more happier if the B's find some
consistancy in goal. But I believe the B's will live or die in the playoffs
with Moog. Unfortunatly Moog seems to be taking on some of Blue's traits; such
as when the puck is near the net, go down holding stick across the ice, leaving
the top of the net open, ARGH!!!.

 On the positive, this may push Moog to improve his play. Barring a miracle
(or a trade for Tugnutt), Andy will be the man.

Boris Volk
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From: joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jagr female?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:39:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

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In article <1993Jan22.205846.5830@ncsu.edu> fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu (FRANK MICHAE SALVATORE) writes:
>
>Jaromir Jagr absolutely positively looks like a girl.
>Why does he have such a big head?

The only problem is when he starts looking like an attractive girl.
Then you know you have to get out more often.


Joseph Stiehm

****************************************************************

"Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him"
joe13@unixd.cis.pitt.edu
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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: Wings News
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:23:44 GMT

In article <930123124942@sglenn.ct.gmr.com> sglenn@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>
>1 - How can someone whose a fan of the team that Garth Butcher plays
>    on accuse someone else of diving?  Ciccarelli?  What about Butcher?
>    He should retire and become an artist...the guy is always trying to 
>    draw a penalty! :-)  
    
     I was criticising the Referee for calling the penalty that gave the
     Wings a 5 on three advantage. I like Dino Ciccarelli and would love
     to have him on my team anyday. But with his "diving" history, the Refs
     shouldn't fall for it so many times.
     Butcher tries to draw penalties by instigating and stiring things up.
     He practically does the same things that Probert does.

>At any rate, tonight's the rematch.
>
   And it was a wild one, with the Blues getting the better of it 4-3.

>-Scott

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From: jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. Murawski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Nassau Coliseum question
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:37:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IfLeQdm00WBO81A0px
Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


A few buddies and I will be heading out on our second road trip of the season
next month when we watch the Pens play the Islanders on Saturday, February 20th
and the Whalers on Sunday, February 21st.

My buddy received our tickets to the Pens/Islanders game yesterday.  The
tickets are in Section 122, Row J.  My question to the folks familiar with
Nassau Coliseum is:  Where, relative to the ice, are these seats?  When the
tickets arrived, no seating chart accompanied them.

Thanks!

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Computing and        (412) 268-6868  [fax]
         Information Services           jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
    Carnegie Mellon University          Office: UCC 155
    4910 Forbes Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890

    "Le Mieux!  Le Magnifique!  Soixante Six!  Claude...NON!"
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Pens-Ottawa Summary
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:03:04 GMT

In article <93021.004316RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Woob <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
writes:

<stuff that has nothing to do with hockey, really>

Take it to e-mail, please.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: cpw2@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Ted Martin Cpw2 Rick Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: goalies again
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:27:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: watserv2.C1GtHt.Exz
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1993Jan25.150603.3094@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>In article <Jan18.011755.10802@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu writes:
>> A followup to my last "goalie-post" (sorry):
>>                 
>> Is it illegal for a goaltender to play without a mask in the NHL? or
>> is ok but only a neanderthal man would consider trying it.
>
>It is illegal. The referee is to stop play immediately if he sees the
>goaltender is not wearing a mask or has had his mask knocked off.
>
>								Alan
According to my Official NHL Rules (albeit about 10 years old),
"Protective masks of a design approved by the Rules Committee may
be worn by goalkeepers." That is, goalies MAY wear masks but don't
have to. It appears that they do have to wear helmets though, since
the rule change this summer applies only to forwards and defenders.

Interestingly, Andy Brown was the last goalie to play without a mask
in the NHL (and WHA, I think). His last NHL season was with Pittsburgh
in 1973-74 (and last WHA season was with Indianapolis Racers in 
1976-77), though he may have resorted to using a mask by the end of
his playing career. He also set an NHL penalty minute mark (for
goalies) with 60 in 1973-74 and a WHA mark with 75 the next year--
I wonder if this had something to do with not wearing a mask????

--Ted Martin.
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Latest rumor...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:40:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.234910.20315@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>>The Pens are working on a deal with Quebec that would send Bob Errey
>>and Jim Paek or Paul Stanton to Quebec for Steve Duchesne.

>What was your friend smoking?

Well, Gerald, using your own criteria, Bob Errey and Jim Paek have two rings
each; Steve Duchesne has none.

:-)  (See how useless it is to determine a player's value by using the number
of rings he's got?)

===============================================================================
GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
GO EDMONTON OILERS!  Go for playoffs!  Dave Manson for Norris!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov)
Subject: Re: What's the record? Pens get 3 in 29 seconds!!!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:08:45 GMT

In <Jan27.050920.76925@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger) writes:

>In article <93026.202456RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>I'm just listening to the hockey game now and the Penguins thanks to goals by
>>Murphy, Stevens, and another one by Stevens have just scored 3 goals in just
>>29 seconds!!! What is the record with this?  I doubt this is a reord, but it
>>may be a team record.
>>** Rob **

>21 seconds.  Can't remember who, can't remember when, but that number sticks
>in my mind.  Unfrotunately, my cornucopia of reference tomes cannot verify
>my shaky memory.

That's the record for the fastest three goals by ONE PLAYER - Bill
Mosienko of the Blackhawks (sorry can't recall the season; I think it
was 1951-52). The record for the fastest three goals by ONE TEAM is 20
seconds - for the life of me I can't recall the team or the year.

                                                  Vlad the Impaler
                                                  GO FLAMES!!!!!!!









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From: mashumka@dry.Princeton.EDU (Mark Andrew Shumka)
Subject: Bruins ticket info
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:01:28 GMT

I'm going to be in Boston next week and would like to go to a Bruins
game.  Can anyone tell me what my chances are of getting tickets, and
how much I'd have to pay for them?  Please reply via e-mail.
Thanks!

Mark
mashumka@phoenix
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From: Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there from VANCOUVER? if so, READ.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:24:11 GMT

Rob Harris writes:

: Hey there--
:         If you are reading this, then I can only assume that you are within
: the Vancouver area, and you have some idea about the Canucks.  Im writing
: to ask a favor from one of you Vancouverians (?)...

It's "Vancouverite."

: In sports stores in the States, there is a kind of hat called a
: "blockhead." It has a team logo on the front, a little logo on the side,
: and then the name of the team written across the back of the hat in block
: letters.

I wish I could help you, but I don't think I've seen one of these hats
myself.
--

       Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia  /  Canada, Eh?
       Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca               CIS:  73200,3117

Ligneous and petrous projectiles can potentially fracture my osseous
structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.
From: IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ALL STAR GAME
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:18:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I believe that the all star game is February 6, at least i think its that
weekend, i'm not positive on the date, as for MVP, I assume you are
referring to the overall MVP (not for the all star game) I would have to
say that the contenders would be, in no particular order, Adam Oates, Pat
LaFontaine, Teemu Selanne, Pavel Bure,  but thats just me,    as for
the calder, I believe that it's pretty much been narrowed down to
joe Juneau and Teemu Selanne, and despite hte point differential, I would
give the edge to Juneau, of the sports writers, who ever watches Winnipeg
to begin with, strike one to selanne, and I believe that Juneau seems to be
a better All around player, Teemu may be great on offense but as his +/-
indicates his defense leaves something to be desired, but, I may be biased.....


                  Pat Ellis

 p.s    GO BRUINS     GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS    24-0-2  still number 1......

         just image an NHL team that was 50-0-5 right now....
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Right/left
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:33:01 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

All this talk of right and left shooters got me to thinking (an ugly
thought in itself!): how about an informal poll of r.s.h. readers who
happen to play hockey?  I can supply three data points:  I am left handed
but shoot right; my oldest son is left handed and shoots left; my youngest
son is right handed and shoots left.  My wife is right handed and shoots
rifles, but that's another sport!

Anyway; if you would like to send me data, I can collect it for a week or so
and post the results.

-- 
Alan Hepburn           "Nothing is so ignorant as the ignorance
National Semiconductor       of Certainty."
Santa Clara, Ca              
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Aldous Huxley
From: shaikh@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (SHAIKH/AMIR/MR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: one-sided trades
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:57:57 GMT
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

Bad trades??

How about Brett Hull from Calgary to St. Louis for a 2nd round draft pick!!!

How about Joe Mullen to Pittsburgh for a 2nd round draft pick!!!

later,Amir
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From: mashumka@burn.Princeton.EDU (Mark Andrew Shumka)
Subject: Test
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:38:49 GMT

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Hi.  First time caller but I've been listening to your show for
years...
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From: LMARSHA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Laurie Marshall)
Subject: Re: Jagr female?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:51:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.202418.2964@brandonu.ca>
$ledouxbd@brandonu.ca writes:
 
>
>
>
>
>
>  If you think Jaromir Jagr looks like a girl, I would hate to see
>what the girls look like that you date!!!!
>
>Diane
>
>
>
 
 He didn't say that Jagr looked like a girl he would date.  He just
 said he looks like a girl.
 
Laurie
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From: macro@cup.hp.com (Patrick MacRoberts)
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:58:45 GMT
Organization: Nazi Right-Wing Parenting Monthly
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey

%> Has anyone else heard of reports of problems with aluminum stick
%> blades breaking off often?

They break, yes, but they don't appear to break with any more
regularity than wooden sticks (at least in MY experience, they don't).

% During one of our games this year, I remember one of my teammates breaking
% his blade with the first shot he took with it.

Probably a dry blade.  The same thing happens with wooden sticks.
They get dry, lose any flexibility they had, and break.

% Another problem with aluminum sticks is that the shaft does not break.
% I know that is the whole point, but it is very dangerous.

Tell that to the Lacrosse players in the audience.  Aluminum shafts
BEND if you do something heinous to/with them.

% Have you ever seen someone give a cross-check to another player's back
% and the stick break?

Yeah.  I watched Tom Pederson cross check a Canuck with an aluminum
stick as well.  The thing bent like a pretzel.

% The reason is that there is one certain part of the vertebrae that
% is too strong and it will just break the stick.  Well, if this is done
% with an aluminum stick, it can cause a serious back injury.

If a cross-check is delivered with a wooden shaft, it can cause
serious back injury.

% This is why I never use aluminum sticks.

Because you cross-check people from behind?  Why don't you just stop
cross-checking people.  Problem solved.  ;-)

-Patrick "I use aluminum because replacement blades are 50% of the
          cost of replacement sticks..."
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From: bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse)
Subject: NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 1-25-93
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:02:05 GMT
Keywords: injury status




NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 01-25-93


TEAM	PLAYER			INJURY				DATE BACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NYI	Ray Ferraro		broken right leg		INDEF
NYI	Rich Pilon		strained back 			Feb. 01
NYI	Gary Nylund		strained right knee lig		INDEF
NYI 	Vladimir Malakhov	separated shoulder		Feb. 01

NYR	Brian Leetch		nerve damage in neck		INDEF

PHL	Claude Boivin		torn lig. in knee		OUT FOR SEASON
PHL	Eric Lindros		sprained knee			Feb. 03

PIT	Tom Barrasso		chicken pox			INDEF
PIT	Mario Lemieux		hodgkins disease		INDEF
PIT	Kjell Samuelsson	broken cheekbone		INDEF

WAS	Randy Burridge		left knee surgery		INDEF

BOS	Andrew McKim		broken jaw			INDEF
BOS	Cam Neely		left knee surgery		INDEF
BOS	Gord Roberts		viral infection			INDEF

BUF	Dominic Hasek		pullen stomach muscles		D-to-D
BUF	Daren Puppa		sprained knee			D-to-D
BUF	Petr Svoboda		torn ant cru lig in rt knee	INDEF

MON	Brian Skrudland		left shoulder muscle		INDEF

OTT	Dave Archibald		lower back injury		INDEF
OTT	Jeff Lazaro		strained right leg muscle	Feb. 02
OTT	Andrew McBain		torn ligaments in left knee	D-to-D

QUE	Jacques Cloutier	strained right ankle lig.	INDEF
QUE	Valeri Kamensky		broken right ankle		Feb. 02

CHI	Mike Hudson		viral infection			INDEF
CHI	Igor Kravchuk		sprained left ankle		INDEF

DET	Steve Chiasson		pulled hamstring		D-to-D
DET	Dallas Drake		bruised kneecap			D-to-D
DET	Vincent Riendeau	sore hip			D-to-D

MIN	Todd Elik		face contusion			D-to-D
MIN	Derian Hatcher		sprained knee			INDEF

STL	Jeff Brown		broken left foot		D-to-D
STL	Lee Norwood		broken ankle			INDEF
STL	Vitali Prokhorov	dislocated right shoulder	D-to-D

TBL	Joe Reekie		broken left leg			OUT FOR SEASON

TOR	Grant Fuhr		bruised collarbone		INDEF
TOR 	Wendell Clark		strained rib cage		D-to-D

CAL	Kevin Dahl		strained med. col. lig.		INDEF
CAL	Al MacInnis		dislocated left hip		INDEF
CAL	Joel Otto		torn rib cartilege		D-to-D
CAL	Carey Wilson		left knee tendinitis		INDEF

EDM	Petr Klima		groin pull			D-to-D
EDM	Shawn Van Allen		concussion			D-to-D

LAK	Corey Millen		groin strain			D-to-D
LAK	Alexei Zhitnik		flu				INDEF

SJS	David Bruce		groin strain			D-to-D
SJS	Linden Byers		separated shoulder		INDEF
SJS	Pat Falloon		dislocated right shoulder	INDEF
SJS	Link Gaetz		impaired motor skills		INDEF
SJS	Brian Hayward		sore back			INDEF
SJS	Pat McLeod		sprained left shoulder		Feb. 08
SJS	Sandis Ozolinsh		trn ant. cru. lig. left knee	OUT FOR SEASON
SJS	Mark Pederson		separated shoulder 		Feb. 08

VAN	Greg Adams		charley horse			Feb. 14

WIN	Troy Murray		broken left foot		Feb. 01

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



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From: layfield@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Colin Layfield)
Subject: Re: More Arena Stuff/CALGARY
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:36:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.154917.3098@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.194247.29548@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>
>The NHL will never change to the international surface though. The Flames can
>charge about $40 a ticket for those front row seats. Losing 2000 of them means
>losing over $80,000 in ticket revenue per game, or over $3.5 million Cdn per
>year not counting playoffs. (When prices go up)

I'm interested to see how you figure that the larger ice size will make the
flames lose 2000 more seats.  It think it's a little drastic to say that 10% of
the saddledome seating will be lost to that.

 Colin Layfield            | "Religion and Sex are power plays,
                           |  Manipulate the people for the money they pay,
 The University of Calgary |  Selling Skin, Selling God
 Computer Science          |  The numbers look the same on their CREDIT CARDS!"
 layfield@cpsc.ucalgary.ca |                          - Queensryche
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Subject: Re: Keenan talks to Sabres
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak Chhabra)
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:16:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.171736.17204@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

[the Habs should get rid of Skrudland, Dufresne, and they need a backup goalie]

>Have you read the expansion rules...it makes no sense right now to go
>out and get someone good to be a backup goaltender!

Sure it does.  We're not talking about a potential Vezina-winning all-star
here, just a competent backup.  The expansion rules don't mean trim down your
roster so there's no possible chance to lose a decent player...

>Scotty Bowman routinely using Rick Chartraw as a defensman/forward...
>and Glen Sather did the same with Marty McSorley.  If all you need
>at the moment is a banger and mucker at the wing, Dufresne is as
>useful as anyone for a game or two.
>
>Gerald

Perhaps in theory, but have you watched him?  Besides, if a better forward is
available on the farm, then he should be playing.  After Montreal's first two
lines, the rest are in serious danger of classification as braindead.

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
From: un026300@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: L.A. Kings merchandise Phone# needed
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:05:33 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing



       Can anyone give a telephone number for L.A. Kings merchandise.

								Jim


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