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Subject:      Re: Info on Ireland
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Date sent:  11-NOV-1992 20:12:15
Hi, Kathleen
      I'm Natalie, and I must apologize for taking so long to reply! Anyway
I'm still interested in any Youth Hostel or Bed & Breakfast info you may
have on Ireland (especially Dublin). Also, what activities do you recommend
for someone who does'nt like bars or clubs? I'd love to hear any
suggestions, as I'm really excited about this trip.
Thanks a million,
          Natalie
P.S. Peace and Peanut Butter? =)









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>Hostels and things to do in Ireland
>
>Lately I have seen two postings for information on Ireland and I would love to
>help.  My name is Kathleen and I have been to Ireland about seven times (my mom
>is a Cork native).  Usually I stay with family, but this last time I did the
>hostel thing while I was in Dublin.  Kinslay Houses in Dublin and Cork are
>reasonable and the staff is friendly in suggesting places to eat and things to
>do.  Plus there are several more 'permanent' residents in the Dublin house who
>are willing to give some helpful hints.
>
>I would love to write more, but I am late for a class.  I erased the original
>postings so, if the two people who wrote would like to send me another letter,
>I would be glad to even photocopy some booklets and send them in the post to
>you.  Just write to my address listed in the posting...
>
>Peace and Peanut Butter -
>Kathleen
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 Join Tourism Discussion Joyce Hoch
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From:         GLIDDEN@VAX.LIBRARY.UTORONTO.CA
Subject:      RE: Trip To Italy
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Well Chris,  if funds are minimal you may find it a bit of a
problem flying directly to Italy.  Current Canadian price hovers
somewhere around $900(rome).  An alternative may be to fly into
London and then take a train or inter-European flight to a destination
in Italy.  What do you want to see?  Art? Sights?  If you are limited
to two weeks I would suggest a limited itinerary of two or three stops.
Florence-Sienna-Rome is always a good trip.  The key is to avoid the
Contiki 18 countries in 10 days experience.  When I travelled by
motorcycle through Italy in March the climate was temperate.
It was seldom sunny but never below about 50 degrees fahr.
It does like to drizzle at this time of year.  There are youth hostels
which are a little more expensive than England and usually crowded.
A pensione might be an alternative as some hostels are well off the
beaten track and bus service is sometimes difficult to decipher.
What else?  Watch yourself on night trains and don't let gypsy
children get within three feet of you.  It isn't their fault that
they are thieves but five seconds of North American sympathy could
see you lose your money and, more importantly, your documents.
Is any of this useful?  Hopefully Mr. Bauer won't take offense.

Darcy G.
UofT
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From: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Roland Stahl)
Subject: Hawaii Interisland Cupon for sale
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:28:00 GMT

Hello travellers,

On our last flight on Hawaii during our holidays in September (back
from Hilo to Honolulu) we got a cupon for one Interisland flight. 
It is a thing like buy one flight and get the return free.
Unfortunately we couldn't use it any more, and it expires in March
1993. If anyone of you is interested please mail me. I have to offer
two of those tickets (Hawaiian Air) for 50.-DM/30.-$ each. The original
price for any interisland flight is 69$.




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email: stahl@.ipi.uni-hannover.de

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From:         "NEIL PARKER." <UI018@LAMPETER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Great Unwashed
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Dear all,
	I agree with Howard. The soap saga has run out of bubbles, so perhaps
Dave can give it a rest and think of something useful to discuss. Not that
soap isn't useful, of course........but, when the bar runs out, you throw
it away. Know what I mean?
NP.
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From the  "A Guide to College Programs in Hospitality and Tourism 1991-1992
published by The Council on Hotel, Restaurant, and Institutional Education:

Birmingham College of Food, Tourism and Creative Studies
Summer Row
Birmingham B3 1JB England

Brighton Polytechnic
Service Sector Management
Eastbourne, East Sussex, England

Ealing College of Higher Education
Faculty of Hospitality Studies
St. Mary's Road
Ealing, London, England  W5 5RF

Huddersfield Polytechnic
Hotel, Catering and Institutional Management
Wueensgate, Huddersfield, HD1 3DH  United Kingdom

Manchester Polytechnic
Hotel, Catering and Tourism Management
Hollings Faculty
Manchester, Great Britain

University of Buckingham
International Hotel Management
Buckingham MKI8 IEG England

University of Surrey
Hotel and Catering Management
Guildford, Surrey  GU2 5XH England

University of Wales - College of Cardiff
School of Home Economics and Institutional Management
65-67 Park Place
Cardiff, Wales CF1 3AS

West Glamorgan Institute of Higher Education
Dept. of Tourism, Leisure, and Health Care
Mount Pleasant, Swansea SA1 6ED Wales

Hope this helps...........Lloyd Dennington, University of Denver
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Subject:      I've been to Hawaii
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  To whom it may concern,
              If you ever get the time and the money I strongly suggest
taking a two week trip to Hawaii.  I spent my first two days in the fun
and busy city of Oahu.  The beach was gorgeous and the nightlife was
excellent.  Just a tip, if you go to Oahu and your under 21 then bring
your own alcohol and make sure you cross only at the corners. The police
down there are very strict.  Maui is much more relaxed and ideal for the
person who enjoys the outdoors.  They have scuba diving, parasailing,
whale watching and much much more. I had a wonderful time as would anyone.
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Subject:      Re: European xenophobia??
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I've had only one experience in France (probably because I've only been to
France once).  We went to Calais for day via Hovercraft from Dover.  I had my
two youngest kids--ages 12 & 13--with me.  My oldest child was a French major
and had given me a list of  "useful French phrases".  (I speak German and
Spanish).  She had also put the French phrases into phonetic pronunciation.
Well, we got to Calais and went into a little cafe for lunch.  The menu outside
had said that hamburgers were served.  My son at the time was an extremely
fussy eater, and while my daughter and I were game for anything edible, young
Richard would eat only American fast food.  So, we went in.

We tried to order the hamburger, but the waiter informed us in non-existent
English that he had no hamburgers.  Unfortunately, my daughter's list of useful
French phrases phonetically didn't include the question, "Well, what else do
you have?" and when I asked for a menu, he just shrugged and said, "non."

Well, Rich, at the time was taking a middle school French course, so in
desperation I asked him how to say "have."  He had no idea--so much for middle
school French courses!  Finally, in TOTAL desperation, I said, "Okay.
Hamburgers non.  Cheeseburgers non.  Hot dogs oui.  Grilled chiz (cheese) oui.
Et, et?"  I pantomimed a big question mark, and finally the guy got the drift
and said something about ham and cheese and tuna.  Well, Rich got a hot dog,
Michele got a grilled chiz and I ordered a ham and cheese on a croisant.
Delicioso.  As for drinks, the kids got coke, which wasn't hard to order, and I
want wine wine, but not DRY white wine.  So, Yankee ingenuity (if not grace)
came to the rescue again, and I ordered, "Vin blanc, non sec."  I got the most
delicious sweet white wine I've ever had!

We had a great day in Calais--this waiter aside, everyone was delightfully
friendly to us, and I'd gone there expecting rudeness.  In fact, one shopkeeper
nearly kissed us, because during WWII, the Americans had liberated her village
and she was still extremely grateful!  I was later told, and it may be true,
that it's only Parisians, especially cab drivers, who are rude to Americans.
Whatever, the lovely people of Calais were great!

Hilde
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Date: 11 Nov 92 01:58:00 GMT
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      Hi, I am planning on going to Arizona for a vacation in the near
future.  I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could give me any
information about historical sites in Arizona that would be worth seeing
while I am down there.  I am also interested in knowing the warmest area in
Arizona at this time.  Thank you for your time.
                                            Lewis LaFountain
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Date sent:  8-NOV-1992 19:33:59
  PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT A NEW AND
EXCITING PLACE TO TRAVEL IN THE WORLD????????????????
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Subject:Travelling in Europe

In response to Marny (DUBU8240@SNYPLAVA.BITNET):  I would recommend that
you consider the train.  Your friend is right- the roads and driving can
be a problem in December.  Also, car rental will cost you about $60 per
day, unless you can book a car in conjunction with the airline you are
flying with (which would put the cost at about $35-40/day).  Consider
buying a month-long railpass, such as Eurail, or even better, Interrail.
I purchased an Interrail ticket this past spring in the CSFR and payed
roughtly $290 for it.  The one problem with the Interrail is that you
have to still pay half-fare in the country of purchase, and technically
you must be a resident of that country for I think 6 months prior, but
in the CSFR neither was a problem.  They wanted the business and didn't
care where I was from (they didn't even check my passport, and they
hardly understood my English anyway), and the train fare was dirt-cheap
anyway, around 6 dollars from Bratislava to Prague round trip (total of
about 10 hours train time- what a bargain.)  Another thing with trains
is that you don't have to fight your way into the cities or look for
parking like you do with a car, which can be a major hassle.  The
Interrail ticket (as of last spring) was good for 29 countries in
Europe, plus Turkey and Morocco.  Unlimited travel anywhere, anytime. No
punching of days like you must do with a Eurail pass.  A disadvantage
with the train is that you have more trouble hitting the smaller places,
but if your goal is to concentrate mainly on bigger cities, go by
train!!!!
Alex Falkenberg  --- ST7759@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Internet)
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HI! You should go see the Statue of Liberty, The Empire State Biulding, a
broadway show (The Christmas Spectactular at Radio City Music Hall), ice
skate at Rockafeller Center, at night go to some of the Clubs!!!! The
choices are endless have a blast!!!!
             (sorry about the spelling mistakes)










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>   > FAO Shwartz isalways a stop for me.  I love the craziness, the kids, the
>   > salespeople, and the music.
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>   I am a big FAO fan too, but...THE MUSIC?  Oy!  I think if I hear "Welcome
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>that giant Teddy Ruxpin's head off with a toy UZI first.
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I used to LIVE in Manatee County and am a great lover of manatees.

One thing that I would like to emphasize is that in order to SAVE these
great creatures.. we really should NOT bother them in their habitat.

Tho divers DO dive with them.. and the animals seem to be rather calm
about it.. it still is not a good idea to encourage people to do so..
Just my opinion..  They are beautiful creatures and unfortunately..
disappearing quicker than they are being replenished...

The greatest enemy of manatees is NOT natural predators (they really don't
have any in the calm waters of Florida), but man.  Speedboats crusing at
high speeds run over them constantly.. since they prefer to sit just BELOW
the waters surface.  If you want to see them.. there are a few sites in
the Tampa Bay Area and also in the park you mentioned..  and tho divers
DO dive in with them.. I would encourage everyone to simply let them be.

north@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
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>
>Date sent:  9-NOV-1992 16:04:52
>Hi, I'm a Plattsburgh State University Student and asking for some replies
>to anyone who loves skiing. I would like to go skiing outside of New York
>state and would like to know what the best places for skiing are, and if
>you don't know any good ones outside give me some in New York.
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Date sent:  10-NOV-1992 15:31:05
Hi fellow travel followers:

During Thanksgiving break, a few of my friends and I are planning on
traveling somewhere within the northern states, being either New York or
the New England states.  We haven't really decided yet for the reason that
we don't know where the most interesting but yet affordable place to go is.
If there are any suggestion from anyone who has traveled these regions, I
would greatly appreciate any comments about expenses and sight-seeing.

Sherri Collins         coll3155@snyplava
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Subject:      trip to Jamaica
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On Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:35:00 EST JENNIFER KIME said:
>Date sent:  8-NOV-1992 19:33:59
>  PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT A NEW AND
>EXCITING PLACE TO TRAVEL IN THE WORLD????????????????

Jennifer,
         Try Zipolite, Mexico. Between Puerto Escondido and Puerto Angel.
Not new, only one real night-club, but lots of socializing.
                                         Dean


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Date: 11 Nov 92 03:01:00 GMT
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  Me and some of the guys are planning a trip to Daytona for Spring Break
in the month of March.  We have been researching college package deals and
these are the following companies I am researching; Take A Break Student
Travel,  Student Excursions, Travel Turf Escrow.  The prices for the
packages are similar between companies, but my main concern is that the
company is creditable and will not give us any headaches.  I would
appreciate if anyone could give me your input about any of these companies
or one I haven't named.  Also, any information about hotels would be
very helpful?


                           Thanks For your Help,
                           Mark
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Subject:      trip to Jamaica
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Date sent:  11-NOV-1992 14
  Hi! My friends and I are planning a trip to Montego Bay, Jamaica for
Spring Break. I was wondering how much it would cost to stay at a rented
house near the beach?  We heard that these houses include maids, cooks, and
a gardner. Is this true or is it a scam?  I was also wondering where some
of the "hot spots" are in Jamaica like bars, shopping, and restaurants?
Thank you,
Megan
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Date: 11 Nov 92 02:44:00 GMT
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    My friends and I are planning a trip to Cancun during the week of march
13-20.  We have found a package deal for $489 which includes seven nights
at the Days Inn Cancun, Round trip airfare, airport and hotel transfers,
and free club admissions and special discounts coupons. We are getting the
package through Travel Turf, inc. of Allentown, Pa.  Has anyone heard of
this company?  Are they reliable?  If anyone has stayed in the Days Inn
Cancun can you please give me your opinion of the facilities.  Also, is
Cancun a good place for spring break?
                                 Your information will be much appreciated,
                                 Thanks Tara

TARA KERLEY
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