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From: saddler@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ray, just Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Ren & Stimpy: New Episodes
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:32:00 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services Northwest Operations

gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
.btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
.
..I *was* wondering why new ones weren't coming out as promised, though...
.
.The new episodes of Ren & Stimpy air on Saturdays at 8 pm.
.
.New episodes are:
.
.In the Army
.Powdered Toast Man
.Ren's Toothache
.Big House Blues
.Out West
.Rubber Nipple Salesmen

That's all?!?!?!  Damn.....

Funny thing is, Big House Blues was the FIRST I'd ever seen of R&S,
which was at an animation fil festival here in Seattle about two years
ago!  New episode?  Nyah......just new the TV viewers
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: BTAS: Two-Face
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:16:15 GMT

Well, the episode ended with no promised cure.  In fact, the tactic Batman used
to stop Two Face may have done further psychological harm, by shattering the 
one island of stability he had.
     As for the Robin episode tomorrow, I noticed that Scarecrow seems to have 
a different character design.  Any confirmation?
     Dave Van Domelen, at least they're using the Drake costume....
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: ren & stimpy changes
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:46:14 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Msg#:24620 *Fidonet Cartoons*
09-23-92 12:08:00
From: SIDNEY ADAMS
  To: ALL
Subj: REPLY TO MSG# 12263 (REN & STIMPY)

Here's a news item that might interest you all.  The entire staff of Ren &
Stimpy including creator John Kricfalusi has been fired from the show.
Nickelodeon closed their studio down and even changed the locks on the door so
John K. couldn't get in.
     Nick was upset because John has spent so much money and has delivered so
few episodes of the show this year.  He was originally contracted to do 26 this
year.  He later announced he would only deliver 13.  At the rate he is going,
he would only deliver six.
     Nick was also upset because the episodes he was delivering did not match
what they had approved.  John was doing his own trick of having a storyboard
drawn of the cartoon and then approved as final by the network, then he would
add a lot of sick gags and have the show animated, believing there was nothing
they could once the show was animated but air it.  Nick has already thrown two
episodes of Ren & Stimpy away and as they look at the real storyboards (the
ones John never showed them) they see that upcoming episodes are full of gags
too gross to air and some that are probably libelous.
   At the moment, no one knows what will happen with future episodes.  Nick
is said to be looking for a new studio to take over and make new episodes and
fix the ones John K. had in the works. Some of John's employees have offered to
fix them without his involvement and to make new ones, promising not to
double-cross Nick by showing them one storyboard and then animating another.
There will probably be lots of lawsuits.

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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: BTAS: Two-Face Part II (was BATMAN TODAY (9/28))
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:24:22 GMT

(Paraphrased) In article <1a7q9kINN47d@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ss@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:

>It's 4:30. Batman starts right on time as usual. I got the VCR going.
>And suddenly 1/2 was through the opening sequence the show changes to
>Goof Troop!!!! What the hell is going on. This happen in any
>other areas besides MA???

It didn't happen on WBFF in Baltimore.

Comments on the episode:

My, but this was a violent episode, perhaps the most violent of the
series so far.  It seemed different from the first part, but the
director and the teleplaywright (is that a word?) were the same for
both parts.  The animation companies were different, though.

Unfortunately, if this keeps up, either BTAS will be cancelled or it
will be neutered, I think.


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From: kmeyer@unf6.unf.edu (Karl Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Sylvester's Son (was Re: Bugs Bunny)
Keywords: Looney Tunes
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:44:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sinkhole.1992Oct3.184416.28789
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

In article <1992Sep28.175149.14219@bcrka451.bnr.ca> isupstud@bnr.ca (Wayne Hutton) writes:
>
>	Can anyone out there please tell me the name of Sylvester's son.  Someone recently asked me, and to my surprise I did not know it.  Thank you.

The youngster's name is, very simply, Sylvester, Jr.  He was just called
"Junior" in the cartoons he was in (some of the better Sylvester/Hippety ones
had Junior in them).

Now here's a thought: Could Junior be considered the first "Tiny Toon"?  :)


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From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Batman: TAS  Two Face
Date: 25 Sep 92 21:28:12 PST
Organization: BBS

Well it's the end of the day, and I haven't seen it mentioned, so I thought I'd
bring it up...anyone notice the flash of some words during the part where the
mob boss (forgot his name) throws the newspaper into the fire? It shows the
DA's picture in the paper burning, and a subliminal-type message appeared. I
went back (recording) and the message was: TAKE OUT THESE FRAMS (nice spelling
of frames). Well apparently not all of the frams were taken out that were
supposed to shorten that shot...

Also, did we see a glimpse of "Big bad Harvey" in the day before's Man-Bat
episode (coin flipping)? Hm...reminds me of Twin Peaks...:)

Bobby Tribble  |8')
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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Comments on BTAS Two-Face Two-Parter
Date: 29 Sep 1992 07:59:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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This was really good.  My only gripe is Two-Face's costume.  The
white and black suit didn't quite capture him the way the costume
from the comic did: a perfectly normal suit on the right, a multicolored
patchwork affair on the left.  Like Two-Face said, his word is a 
balance between order and chaos.  I thought the traditional costume
represented that better.

Best line:  "There's only one law.  The law of averages."

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From: isupstud@bnr.ca (Wayne Hutton)
Subject: Pepe le Pew
Reply-To: isupstud@bnr.ca (Wayne Hutton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:12:05 GMT

	I would like to start by thanking all who responded to my Sylvester Jr. question.  But now I have another question:


	In the Pepe le Pew cartoons, I've notice the cat (skunk look-a-like) has more then one name.  In one episode the cat's name was Fifi.  In several others it was Penelope.  And of course there is the one with the panther that escapes from the zoo and purposely paints the stripe on her back (however, I don't think she had a name).  Can anyone out there tell me if I am correct about these names and if they know of any others.

-todd. (a curious WB fan)

I am irrrrresistable, non?
		-plp
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From: fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana)
Subject: Russian short "There Will Come Soft Rains..."
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:57:59 GMT


A few years ago there was a Soviet animation festival at the Ohio State
University (for those at OSU, in the former Roxy theatre).

One of the films presented was a ~7 minute short from Russia based
on Ray Bradbury's short story "There Will Come Soft Rains...".  
I believe the film was made at Soyuzmultfilm, but I'm not sure.  

I'd like to know if anyone else is familiar with this film and if it
is available on videotape here in the United States.


Mark
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Ren & Stimpy: New Episodes
From: gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:23:10 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <btribble.1moa@terapin.com>, btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) 
writes:

>I *was* wondering why new ones weren't coming out as promised, though...

The new episodes of Ren & Stimpy air on Saturdays at 8 pm.

New episodes are:

In the Army
Powdered Toast Man
Ren's Toothache
Big House Blues
Out West
Rubber Nipple Salesmen

G.
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Batman: TAS 9/29 Scarecrow
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:32:57 PST
Organization: BBS

Sorry, forgot the name of the episode... it's funny how Robin just appears in
the cartoon with no explanation, and with the baddies on the building knowing
about him already and everything... I like the prison though..."We have ALL the
good villains in OUR cell block, ha!" I can see Batman blending into
backgrounds with his dark suit, but Robin in red and green? Yeah, he can really
be a master of stealth in THAT outfit :) Nice cape though.

Tomorrow: Penguin! Yay!

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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.tv.batman
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.154341.1301@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu> ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
>
>There was an animated series in the late sixties and seventies of Batman.  The
>"TAS" has become the standard acronym for Batman: The Animated Series.  The
>other series, btw, was made by Hanna-Barbara, bleh!

  Actually, it was made by Filmation, although Batman appeared in The Super-
Friends which was done by Hanna-Barbera (who I don't think are so "bleh!").

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: BTAS:  9/28  TWO-FACE, Part II
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:06:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.002422.6213@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
> 
> My, but this was a violent episode, perhaps the most violent of the
> series so far.

What do you mean, violent?  I didn't see anything that we hadn't seen in
previous episodes.  At any rate, Montoya's "SNAP!" in P.O.V. was much
nastier...

 9/28	TWO-FACE, Part II			Dong Yang	Two-Face

I liked it!!  The repeating shots of the coin flipping in the air.
Batman shown as a real man, who gets hurt when he goes into a fight,
who has nightmares of the people he has failed to save.  Harvey/Two-Face
lost without the crutch he uses to cope with his situation, his complete
obsession with duality.  Great writing here, folks.

Next up:  the first Robin episode, and the Scarecrow gets a new outfit!
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From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Warner Bros. Store in Atlanta
Summary: New store in Atlanta
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:59:03 GMT

Just thought I'd let y'all know that W.B. is opening a new store
here in the sunny south ... in Underground Atlanta.  I guess it'll
be open soon, although I don't know the actual date.

Probably by Christmas, though ...

- Jonathan

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal II
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:05:49 GMT

In article <16872E6BB.UCPL040@UNLVM.UNL.EDU>, ucpl040@unlvm.unl.edu writes:
> Over on rec.arts.sf.movies folks are talking about a
> sequal to the first production called: 'Heavy Metal II:
> Burning Chrome".

1)  BURNING CHROME was supposed to be an animated film based on William
    Gibson's cyberpunk anthology of the same name.

2)  It's NOT Heavy Metal II.

3)  If I remember correctly, there was a mention of it in an issue of HM
    years ago, and that's it.  That project died a long time ago.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Batman: TAS 9/30 Batman in my basement
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:46:15 GMT

In article <btribble.1pa6@terapin.com>, btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
> Wow! What a lame episode! Sorry, but that's what struck me as soon as I saw
> those two stupid kids. Of course they get caught up in the plot, first getting
> saved by Batman, then saving Batman. It made Batman seem like he was so weak
> that two kids were better than him.

Well, he WAS.  Remember, The Penguin said the gas would have him
incapacitated for a week or so.

 9/30	I've got Batman in my basement		Dong Yang	Penguin

The Penguin steals one of the Faberge Eggs (egg-shaped jewelry pieces,
exist in real life).  Batman is on the case, as well as two kids, Sherman
and Roberta, who see the Penguin's mascot (a vulture) and follow it.
In the ensuing fight, Batman is gassed by the Penguin, and it's up to
the kids to save him.

I didn't like this episode either.  The setup wasn't executed badly, but
HOW did Sherman get the Batmobile under all those boxes without anyone
noticing?  I did like the interpretation of the Penguin.  Much, much, MUCH
better than what BATMAN RETURNS gave us.
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From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: BATMAN: TAS 
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:15:40 GMT

In article <btribble.1kfo@terapin.com> btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble) writes:
>I just got this newsgroup, and wanted to say that I LOVE it!  Anyways...
>
>Has anyone noticed that on Batman TAS the episodes seem to be out of sequence?
>In some of the earlier episodes, Gordon is talking with Batman as if he knows
>him, and in the man-bat episode says, "That's not Batman's MO"...in more recent
>episodes, though, most of the characters seem as if they are seeing Batman for
>the first time...anyone else notice this? Were the episodes scattered around
>and if they were does anyone know the "correct" order? (Fans of The Prisoner
>know about this...) Of course, all the currently running episodes don't have
>Robin, so they're not TOTALLY mixed up, if they are...
>
>Lastly, has anyone talked about the scene where Batman uses the Batwing(tm) to
>pick up a baddie's (the guy with the police radio) car? I liked how Batman(tm)
>used the police radio to fool the baddie, but I don't know how he could use
>that grabber thing to grab the guy out of the car...and how could he hear what
>the baddie said? Must have been a microphone on the grabber, of course...
>Luckily Batman had PERFECT aim to drop that guy into the pool (which could
>still be deadly) and I'm sure the owner of the apartment didn't mind :)
>
>If this has been talked to death before, flame away...:)
>
>Bobby Tribble  |8')
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>btribble@terapin.com

This is a tough one, without an easy way to get the answer (anyone want to
get in contact with Warner?) -- The man-bat episode ("On Leather Wings") was
shown as the pilot (on Sunday 9/6/92) but seems to be Episode #14.  They
seem to be (excepting Cat and the Claw and the first showing of On Leather 
Wings) running them in order; but then again who knows for sure.


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From: David Libby
Subject: Summary: Warner Bros. store in NE
Organization: MIT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:27:44 GMT

Monday the 28th I wrote:

>Hello.  Some friends and I are planning a road trip to a Warner Brothers
>store and heard the closest one to Boston is in Tyson's Corner, Virginia! 
>Anyone know of one closer?  We heard rumors of one in Connecticut.

Many thanks to :  Peter Stein, Robert Sadowski, Elisabeth Riba, Dave
Pirmann(?), J.J. Kwashnak, Jeffrey Greene, and Jackie Brady.

The closest store to Boston is about 3 hours from Boston in Danbury, CT, on the
ground floor of the Danbury Fair Mall.  It's located off Route 84 at exit 3,
right before the NY border.  It's rumored to be really cool, and the mall is
supposed to have some other rather unique stores.  There may also be a Boston
and/or Nashua, NH, store at some point in the future.

FYI, a new store also just opened in the Woodbridge Center Mall, Woodbridge,
NJ.

David
 
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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: CREATOR OF REN & STIMPY IS AXED BY NICKELODEON
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:16:21 GMT

yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov writes:

>If the guy wasn't doing his job, then YES...he should be fired, just like
>anyone else.  I will be very sad if there won't be anymore R&S shows, however.

I hear Bob Camp, who's heavily involved in the show as it is, will be
taking over.
 
...e

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From: fjohnson@police.rutgers.edu (Floyd Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Castle Cagliostro in Batman(Re: BATMAN: TAS 9/21 Clock King)
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:00:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: police.Sep.26.20.00.25.1992.6984
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>In article <1992Sep22.070848.27451@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep22.030101.26838@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Did any of you other Otaku (Otakus?  What is the plural, anyway...) find
>>>  yourselves thinking of Castle Cagliostro throughout the final fight?
>>>
>> I definitely got the impression that Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro had a
>> influence on the last scenes (ie pretty much the exact fight scenes).

You might say it could be expected, had Tokyo Movie Shinsa much of a
say in the story/direction-remember who was behind the Lupin
animation.

>Also, in "Pretty in Posion"

>Harvey Dent: "...That's why I'm going to marry her."
>Burce Wayne: "<coughing, spits out coffee> What? You've only known her a week!"

>ROBOTECH: Macross Saga, "Wedding Bells"

>Max Sterling: "Rick, I think I'm gonna get married."
>Rick Hunter : "<coughing, spits out coffee> What? You've only been on one date!"

At first, I'd've said, "Baka! That was Tatsunoko." (is Gainax what
became of them?), until I recall a related clip from Macross
(Pirina[sp?] and Jiinus do battle in a videogame). This depicted a
seqeunce that resembles a piece of Lupin animation (the original
appeared stateside a year earlier in "Cliff Hanger"), in a sort of
tribute to TMS.

Anyhow, the coffee bit was more likely to have been coincidence--the
story I got on Batman was that it wasn't coproduced (a la Mighty
Orbots)--the statesiders farm the storyboards, etc. out to the
animation houses.

FLJ
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From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,alt.slack
Subject: Re: "BoB" Owns Speilberg (Subgenius Influence in
Keywords: Bob,subgenius,Xist
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:13:01 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Sep28.215850.28053@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:

>>
>>Excuse me please, for acting blonde [the color of my hair], but WHAT'S BoB!!!?

>BoB, also known to True Believers everywhere as His Pipeness is another name
>for J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, leader of the Church of the Subgenius, a post-industrial
>parody of most modern-day(and not-so modern-day) religions. Billed by "BoB"
>as the "Worlds First Industrial Religion", basic tenets of the faith surround
>the concept of "Slack", i.e., getting something for nothing. The story goes
>that the true, most perfect subgenious ill be able to talk/dupe anybody into
>anything up to and including killing them. Hence the commonly heard phrase
>"Or kill me!". Subgenii spend their time trying to soak up
>as much "Slack" from the "Pinks"(Non-subGs) before X-day, their day of 
>apocalypse when the Xists will haul all the SubGs off this rock into space
>on giant pleasure saucers, burning the ground(and its remaining inhabitants)
>to ash...
>Commanding this fleet of course, will be "BoB"

Nice try, pink boy, but it is a pack of fucking lies.  

The Church cannot be "summed up" in a single paragraph like that.  Your
only hope is "long division".

Slack is not getting something for nothing.  Slack is slack.

Thanks, though, for revealing your true color.

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