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From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: WWF Real Clown
Originator: cs921037@m02.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:43:17 GMT


In article <1992Nov13.145547.13857@nynexst.com>, tietje@nynexst.com (Ralph Tietje) writes:
>> 
>> >Please note the last time a character was following the WWF in the
>> >audience was Hillbilly Jim who went on to a "great" career in the WWF.
>> 
>> 
>> >CORRECTION:  Saphire w/Dusty Rhodes.  She did not wrestle, but she was the
>> >last audience plant.
>> 
>> I think Saphire wrestled in a tag team match w/ Dusty Rhodes.  Does
>> anyone remember this????
>> 

    Yes, Dusty and Sapphire teamed up at Wrestlemania 6 to fight King Savage and   --- Scary Sherri, with Dusty and Sapphire coming out on top when Sapphire pinned
     Sherri.
    
    

>> =================================================================
>> Ralph Tietje			        EMail: tietje@nynexst.com	
>> NYNEX Science & Technology Inc		Phone: (914)644-2038 
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: CoC-Starcade Drawing
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

SWH>What has happened to Tully Blanchard?  Anyone know out there?  Also I seem
   >remember his father Joe running a federation in Texas sometime back; any wo
   >on him?  Thanks in advance,
   >                Steve Herer

Tully left wrestling and became an evangalist, which is what he is
currently doing in one of the southern states.

His dad ran Southwest Championship.  They had a brief run on the USA
network.
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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Keywords: Best looking woman
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:00:09 GMT

In article <l660s*000@Birdland.UUCP> uunet!tension!birdland!andy writes:
>In article <9211191932.AA08733@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, Otto Heuer #3 writes:
>
>> 1. Nancy Fallen Robin Woman Green Angel Sullivan (no contest)
>> 2. Missy Hyatt
>> 3. Sensational Sherri
>> 4. Elizabeth Poffo
>> 5. Madusa Micelli
>> 6. Lady Blossom
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What? That broad is FUGLY!

I don't think anybody cares about her face, Andy.  Her appeal was twofold,
right and left.

> And Liz belongs well above Sherri. She gets any fatter and people will
> confuse her with Tentaquake.

I tend to agree.  She's WAY too large-bodied.  She's a pretty decent actress
in the ring...

>Also, I take it you aren't counting some of the women from smaller ladies
>federations? There were some knockouts in POWW, LPWA, and WOW.

Those girls were all Playboy bunny types.  I wonder if there was any
semblance of wrestling there, or was it all curling-iron matches,
best nails contests, or hair vs. hair matches...
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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash thought II
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:05:16 GMT

In <9211190605.AA23236@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) writes:


>Okay... onto the last 60 minutes:

>Stink vs Rude.  As soon as they mentioned there would be judges scoring
>by point is it ended as a draw you had to know it would be a draw, with
>Sting getting two of the three votes.  Lo and behold, that was the exact
>outcome.  Still... some fine work by Stink including a splash onto the
>metal railing.

>Unified tag match.  Finally got to see Barry Windham's heel turn.  I
>would have been happy if Barry or Ricky had won.  Duh-stin even 
>impressed me enough that I wouldn't have complained if he had won.
>But why-oh-why did they have to let Shane "I should be jobbing for
>Mike Thor" Douglas get the pinfall.


Shane is not nearly that bad a wrestler.  And he does go over well with the
Marks.  Wait and see what he and Steamboat do with the belts before you
criticize the team.




>Some nice chair action in the final interview with the new champs.
>Even the marks had to see the heel turn coming--Barry's started to
>grow a goatee-beard.  :-)

>		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer



Matt
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Orndorf on Clash
Date: 21 Nov 92 09:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

JT>With the exceptions of "Too Cold" Scorpio and the Tag Title match (I
  >don't think Shane Douglas is at all bad---if he were a heal or Japanese
  >ye Net Gods would love him), this clash was really weak.  Watts and son
  >gotta go.

I agree.  I am probably one of the biggest Japanese fans on this net,
and I like Douglas.  I think he has a lot of potential and works hard.

Out of curiosity, can someone tell me WHO these Netgods are?  I
constantly hear about them, but I don't know their identity.  Perhaps
they can affix "NETGOD" to their sigs.
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From: rodney@riemann.math.mun.ca (Rod Hutchings)
Subject: Re: trivia
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: rec.sports.pro-wrestling
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:04:46 GMT

In article <BxL6Hq.CAM@news.udel.edu> davez@brahms.udel.edu (David Micha Zlotkin) writes:
>     Money Inc's victory over the Natural Disasters got me thnking of
>a trivia question: What was the last team (before Money Inc) to regain
>the WWF tag-team titles from the team which ORIGINALLY beat them for
>the titles? I think I know the answer, but I want to see what 
>everybody else thinks.
>
>						Dave

Easy enough.  The last team to win the titles back from the team that beat
them for the titles was Demolition (Ax and Smash) when they defeated The
Colossal Connection (Andre and Haku).  The Connection had defeated
Demolition during a syndie match.  Demolition won the belts back at the
following PPV.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Art Barr's rape case (Was: History of Japan)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:42:51 GMT

In <hit.722241999@sol> hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:


>It's an irony.  Art Barr can't wrestle in Oregon(and was kicked out of WCW)
>for his rape case, but Gonzales is still wrestling(as a face) in PR.

Now *this* is a new one to me.

Can I get more details of Mr. Barr's case?

Should this be included in the new FAQ?

Michael
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:30:33 GMT

In <3!x1wqb@rpi.edu> moyj@lib104.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy) writes:

>This thought crossed my mind as well. Could this not be the Plan C
>that we have heard Flair and Perfect talk about? What better way to have
>Savage take his vacation by having him get pummeled as part of Plan C,
>where Perfect fakes a face turn and remains a heel?

Bingo.

This is what will happen. This way Vince can explain Savage's absence
for months, keep most of Hennig's insurance money, and put the three
of them over as monster heels once more.

BTW...in regards to the insurance policy. Remember, Hennig hasn't
stepped into the ring yet, and nothing is saying he will. Let's say
for sake of argument that the legal begals have decided that he voids
the policy if he ever *wrestles* again. So Vince keeps him on the
apron, he never tags, (which plays perfectly <no pun> to the script)
this gets Savage real mad, and then Savage is pummelled by all three.

Hennig could get away with all of this and never actually *wrestle*.

Just a theory.

Michael


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From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Subject: SATURDAY NIGHT MAIN EVENT HIGHLIGHTS
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:17:13 GMT

Comments regarding Saturday Night Main Event:

[1] Money, Inc. ran back to the dressing room and were counted out against
    the Ultimate Maniacs. Ric Flair, Razor Ramon and Mr. Perfect jumped them
    as they were heading back to the dressing room. Savage got clobbered,
    and the Warrior covered him to prevent further damage.

[2] Sean Michaels loosened the padding on one of the turnbuckles while the
    British Bulldog was on the floor. He threw the BBD into it, and it
injured
    the BBD's back. When BBD tried to suplex Michaels from the top rope (!),
    his back gave way and Michaels fell on top of him for the pin. In
general,
    the BBD played mostly to the crowd and left himself open for Michaels'
    counterattacks.

[3] Bret Hart defeated Papa Shango. So Papa Shango wasted his magic on
    beating jobbers in the past, and when he needed the magic the most he
    came up empty. Yeah ... that's the ticket. When Papa Shango fell
    backwards, he raised his legs up for the longest time before Hart applied
    the Sharpshooter ... talk about telegraphing a move!

Other comments:

[1] In a "postmatch" interview, Bret Hart stole Ric Flair's line, "If you
    want to be the man, you'll have to beat the man ... I am the man now."
    It just didn't seem right with Hart saying it.

[2] Bobby Heenan used a "Brainscan" to analyze key plays in the match (just
    like the telestrator in hockey or football). He started out fine but
    ended up doodling, drawing a funny face the first time he used it.

[3] At the end, Bobby Heenan was "speaking" to someone on the phone. He
    said that he had BIG news ... the Ultimate Maniacs were not going to
    walk the aisle together at the Survivor Series, or something like that.

[4] They also showed a video of Bret Hart. It had him wrestling as a kid
under
    the tutelage of his dad, Stu Hart. If that was young Bret Hart in the
    video, was that old Stu Hart in the video? Maybe it was filmed just
    recently?

[5] What was in the big red box at the end? Steve DiSalvo?

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From: mdorems@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Mitchell Doremus (CORTEZ))
Subject: Perfect Insurance
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:26 EST  


What is this insurance everyone is talking about?
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Chrispy WVR : Wrestle War '92
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:18:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Christopher Palacios) writes...

>5) Dangerous Alliance (Zybszko, Austin, Rude, Anderson, Eaton) vs.
>   Sting, Windham, Rhodes, Koloff and Steamboat  in War Games
>   One of the best War Games I've seen.  Every one works hard and lots
>   of blood is spilled.  Heck, even the ending was good.  Another good
>   match.    ***3/4

     ***3/4?  I thought this was one of the most intense North American matches
I've seen in years.  Dustin and Austin turned in the best nights of their 
careers, and evryone looked great.  Extraordinary juice, especially from 
Dustin.  When Barry bit Austin's forehead and said "Here's a postcard for 
mama", that was classic.  Lots of good stiff moves too.  I enoyed this as 
much as any PPV match in a long while, and if it weren't for the hokey ending, 
I'd have given it *****.  As it is, with the heat and the work and the juice
and the intensity and Sting chasing Madusa off the cage...****3/4.  I really
thought this match was great.  It reminded me of the NWA under Jim Crockett,
with everything having that life or death intensity to it.  This is a helluva
long way from silly "ghetto odds" or boxing matches, that's for sure.

*************************************************
Eric Chmiel**************************************
*************************************************
From: trechak@gauss.rutgers.edu (trechak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: NEW backyard wrestling federation..JWA!
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:19:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

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The Joe Wrestling Alliance has been operating for over two years
putting out videotapes of our favorite backyard federation!
The JWA has been praised by Cassette Wrestling News.
You can order your introductory FREE videotape of JWA Television
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or call (908) 254-3776

This is a serious offer.  If you're interested, please contact
the address or phone number listed above.  Thank you for your time.


Brad T.
"Whoa, baby!  This can't be stopped"---The Mongolian Jackass, JWA.
From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: CHAMPS: As of 11/16 
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:25:48 GMT

monster@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Nelson) writes:

>>  British Wrestling Federation (Britain)
>>  (I'm not sure about this one...)
>>    World
>>      Heavyweight        : David Finlay
>>      Heavy Middleweight : Marc Rocco

> If only...
> I gotta admit I'm not as well informed on British Wrestling as I should be
>(no media coverage of it *at all*. No TV, no magazines. The odd fanzine.) but
>this sounds like the situation from about a year or more ago. Finlay lost his
>title to Dave "Rocky" Taylor and Mark Rocco retired a while back with either
>a heart condition or his recurring back injury, depending on who you believe.
>Of course I could be wrong!

Like I said, I wasn't sure about this at all since Meltzer rarely covers the
British wrestling scene(if it still exists after the WWF invasion).

I hope you're wrong about Mark Rocco...

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Flair and Ramon interview
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:46:52 GMT

This weekend's Flair/Ramon interview was the best and funniest I've
seen a long time.

Razor, bouncing on his heels, "Wednesday....Wednesday...Come and get
it...."

All the while Flair is screaming, "*I* walked...in *your* shoes???
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......"

I laughed out loud. I haven't seen Flair that manic in ages.

Michael
From: jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WWF] Survivor Series
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:28:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <By0uMA.BD8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu
(Bob Rusbasan) wrote:
> 
> In article <20NOV199208404222@utarlg.uta.edu> b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu (VICCI VARNER) writes:
> >>BTW, a friend of mine spotted a recent show
> >>which seemed to be a small-time talk show, and he said Hogan was on, looking 
> >>to be about the same size!
> 
> >By the way, Hulk Hogan is wrestling in Japan!!!
> >           Darin
> 
> No, he's not.  He's been negotiating to wrestle in Japan, and every now
> and then it is reported that they are "very close" to signing him for
> a few matches, but so far he has not wrestled or even agreed to do so.
> 
> 
> -- 
>    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>   / Bob Rusbasan                  |     Dance to the tension       \
>  /  rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu |      of a world on edge         \
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
  It appears to be Bob's job to straighten out posts from VICCI VARNER. Are
you guys working an angle? Vicci posts "Savage and Miss Elizabeth are
married" Bob posts "the rest of the story". Now we get the Japan angle.
When to we get the full blown fued?
   BTW, my wife was pretty impressed with the move Scorpio did off the
ropes at CoC. She actually wanted to watch the replay thursday night to see
it again. I got her to like baseball...... :-)
   
Jamie D. Beverly
Acrobat 
Technical Support
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Clash Review: The Worst Clash in TBS History
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Herb Kunze) writes...

>>   Just finished watching the Clash on TBS, and I am totally disgusted
>>with WCW.  This was the worst CoC ever,
> 
>  I would strongly disagree with this.  This Clash does not rank down
>  there with Clash XIII (Sid vs. Nightstalker) for example.  I'm sure
>  you'll get called on this by others, too.  

     Actually, I wasn't "called" on this more than twice.  Many people posted
that they agreed that this was a Clash all-time low.  I have to stick to
this opinion; 5 of the 7 matches were * or worse, and two were total DUDs.

>  Maybe it didn't live up to your expectations because Pillman vs.
>  Armstrong was killed by an angle.  But this Clash still had a great  
>  final hour of wrestling (angles and all), debuted a really good young
>  wrestler and worker in Too Cold Scorpio (who is nowhere near as
>  green as practically half the WCW talent roster, it would seem - he
>  just slipped when going for that moonsault), and marked the apparent
>  return of Paul Orndorff to WCW.

    I can't agree here either.  The Sting/Rude match was awful (save one dive
onto the guard rail by Sting).  Basically, it was two guys moving in slow
motion, hugging and sitting on each other for a minute or two at a time.  Yes,
the tag match was good and Barry's heel turn was better.  The "ghetto odds"
match wasn't very good exept when Too Cold Sorpio was in there, but he's 
so good I'm not complaining.  I guess we just have differing opinions here.
As for Orndorff returning, it was hardly a high point.  First off, showing a
guy for 15 seconds in a little box in the top corner of the screen *without
even mentioning his name* is hardly memorable.  Secondly, Orndorff's return,
as someone pointed out here, was a continuity error since he doesn't make
his official return until three days later on WCW Saturday Night.   

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Eric Chmiel****************************************
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From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:29:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov16.224900.2742@bvc.edu> szemkusmarkw@bvc.edu writes:
>	Oh, and I especially liked it when the Diamond Studd, oops, I mean 
>Razor Ramon kept calling Perfect a "bad guy" and telling him to stay in 
>line, or something to that point.  This should turn out to be quite a fued, 
>Slick Ric vs. Perfect.  Woooooooo!
>

   I don't think they'll do the Perfect-Flair feud right away.  It seemed
 to me that Ramon was acting as the more antagonistic one so I'd expect
 Perfect-Ramon matches for after the Survivor Series.  I think Perfect-Flair
 match would be held to WrestleMania maybe as an Intercontinental Title
 match as Michael's doesn't cut it as IC champ in my book.  A Perfect-Michaels
 match at Royal Rumble would be a great undercard match.

-Rob
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Nick Kiniski
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:51:30 GMT

900667c@ace.acadiau.ca (GERALD RICHARD CAMERON) writes:

>Back when I was first getting into wrestling, I was watching a Canadian WWF 
>syndie which featured matches from Boston Garden.  One time there was a 
>match featuring a guy named (I think) Nick Kiniski.  This guy was cut like 
>Rude, and could do some flying.  I don't remember if he actually had a work-
>rate worth mentioning, but he stood out since he was from Vancouver (a 
>fellow Canadian!).  Does anybody know what he's been up to since his stint 
>in the WWF?  Thanks.

He's a son of Gene Kiniski, former NWA world heavyweight champion.
I don't know what he's doing now, though.
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From: schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein)
Subject: MSG 11-28: Andy, Me and who else going?????
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:45:21 GMT

Thae header sez it all folks- I got in touch with Andy, and we're meeting in
front of Montgomery Grant at 6pm Saturday. The question is, who else is inter-
ested in going? If you're interested in going, email me and/or Andy, and do it
quick in my case, since I'm flying home tomorrow at 2pm CST...               

tv's wisecracking peter
From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Dave!!
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:44:41 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

Since I haven't seen you on the FIDOnet wrestling echo, I guess this is
the best I can do. I want to talk to you about some Japanese tapes you
have. Send me netmail please so we can talk about it.

Mike Dunnagan
1:3641/1.203

Thanks

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From: smurray@mta.ca
Subject: Re: trivia
Reply-To: smurray@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Distribution: rec.sports.pro-wrestling
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:43:52 GMT

In article <BxL6Hq.CAM@news.udel.edu>, davez@brahms.udel.edu (David Micha Zlotkin) writes:
>     Money Inc's victory over the Natural Disasters got me thnking of
>a trivia question: What was the last team (before Money Inc) to regain
>the WWF tag-team titles from the team which ORIGINALLY beat them for
>the titles? I think I know the answer, but I want to see what 
>everybody else thinks.
>
>						Dave

Demos over Connection, WM6

Do I win anything?

Sean AM

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