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From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packers still alive
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:54:07 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Dec14.185818.13425@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>The Packers can get the 3rd wildcard if ...
>    1) Philly goes 1-1 and the Packers go 2-0 or
>    2) Philly goes 0-2 and the Packers go 1-1 or
>    3) Washington goes 0-2 and the Packers go 2-0.
>
>To win the NFC Central the Packers still have to beat the Rams in GB 
>and the Vikings in Minn and the Vikings must lose to the Steelers in 
>Pitt next weekend.
>
>The Packers should be able to beat the Rams but you can't take 
>anything for granted in this league.  I'll be in section 16, row 22, 
>seat 13 or 14 (depending on which ticket my father happens to pull out 
>of his pocket 1st) at Lambeau.
>
>JGH


Cheer those Packers on for me too!  I can't see the Steelers getting
beat the same way as Sunday, maybe another.  I'll be routing for the
Steelers anyway.

Enjoy the Game!

Dan



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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie White
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:32:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec18.001724.29658@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> hamoudy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mohamad E Allaf) writes:
>I am an Eagles fan and I was wondering if anyone out there knows if Reggie is going to be with the Eagles next year?  I know he previously said that this was going to be his last year with Philly but I do not know if he said anything about it since then.  Is there a chance he might stay (supposing they give him good money and the team does relatively well this year)?

that money part is a really BIG "if" considering Norman Braman's 
previous actions.

satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92)

PS local rumor has him going to Washington... oh great, we STILL have to
   face him twice a year!!!
From: polance@egr.msu.edu (Robert Polance)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Woodson "cheap shot" (wasRe: I got a feeling...)
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:56:40 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering


Woodson's cheap late shot on Moon was marginally legal. The rules need 
to be changed to discourage this kind of unsportsmanlike play.  When
marquee players like star quarterbacks are taken out by injuries the
NFL loses revenue.  How many fans would pay to see the dream matchup
between Bubby Brister and Mike Tomczack?  ( Not that O'Donnel was a
marquee player )  If the quarterbacks aren't protected, NFL teams 
might as well unload the top quarterbacks like the Pittsburgh Pirates
unloaded their top arms.


                                     Da Boys in '93
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:36:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Jimmy Johnson publicly had admitted to being a sore loser.  There's an
interview in clari.sports.football wherein he admits getting emotional
over losses.  However, just because he "can't take it like a man" doesn't
make him an effective coach.  He's done a lot for the Cowboys and they are
on pace to have the best single season record the franchise has ever had!

satish nair
giants (5-11 in '92)
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Wilbur Marshall
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:49:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh




   Am I the only one who thinks that this guy is dirtier than Andre "Dirty"
 Waters?  Every game that I see him play in, he makes at least one cheap
 hit.  I thought he made a couple pretty bad ones against Dallas: trying
 to spear Aikman in the gut with his helmet, and leveling Novacek whose
 back was turned after the play was over.

 It's funny that unlike Waters when Marshall makes a cheap hit, the  
 announcers hardly ever make a big deal about it because he's some superstar
 or something.


 My two cents,
    rob c.
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From: edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl T. Edquist)
Subject: Re: Wilbur Marshall
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:17:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Distribution: na
Originator: edquist@valkyrie.eng.umd.edu


In article <656@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello) writes:
>
>
>
>   Am I the only one who thinks that this guy is dirtier than Andre "Dirty"
> Waters?  Every game that I see him play in, he makes at least one cheap
> hit.  I thought he made a couple pretty bad ones against Dallas: trying
> to spear Aikman in the gut with his helmet, and leveling Novacek whose
> back was turned after the play was over.
>
> It's funny that unlike Waters when Marshall makes a cheap hit, the  
> announcers hardly ever make a big deal about it because he's some superstar
> or something.
>
>
> My two cents,
>    rob c.


I agree, Wilbur always seems to come up with one or two cheap shots per game.  It's too 
bad because it takes away from the great plays he's been making, IMHO.


Karl


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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:00:11 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packers still alive
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:25:04 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Dec14.185818.13425@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>To win the NFC Central the Packers still have to beat the Rams in GB 
>and the Vikings in Minn and the Vikings must lose to the Steelers in 
>Pitt next weekend.

Gads, who would have thought it seven weeks ago, but the Packers are actually
looking pretty good to win the NFC Central!  They should be able to handle the
Rams (unlike some teams; oops, just a grumble from a Cowboys fan), and after
such an embarrassing loss to Chicago, the Steelers are going to be pretty
fired up for the Vikings game.

This will be the only interesting divisional race left on the last week of
the season.  Two divisional foes, winner takes all -- football in December!
Gotta love it!  It would be better, though, at Lambeau Field; outside, where
football is supposed to be played.

Daniel Welch
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:20:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:10:09 GMT

<SLANE@ESOC.BITNET> writes:

>   So it was possibly a dubious call but what have the Cowgirls lost
>   by losing this game .... they will still win the division , they would
>   not have taken home field advantage from the 49ers even with a win , so
>   what's all this whining about. Dallas had their chances in the game
>   and if they are as good as you all make out  , should have wrapped it up
>   long before THAT play. They even had time to drive downfield afterwards
>   and blew it - why not whine about that instead.

Bingo.  And most Cowboy fans admit it.


						Al
						alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Looking back at PreSeason Predictions.......
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:45:56 GMT

bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:

>NOT that I am a Steeler fan, but one lone publication (see below)
>predicted the Steelers to be first in the AFC Central. 

   I know it just slipped your mind, but please give credit where
credit is due. It took me a while (and some $$$ for the magazines...)
to put the table together.

   Just put at the top "Magazine Prediction Table" compiled by
Ross Smith if you want to make a point...

   Since I am the only one who did it, I think I should get some credit
for doing it...

   Anyway... enough bitching... I just like to keep the facts straight.

-- 
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: BEST team wins Re: Dallas vs Skins
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:59:42 GMT

In article <exucad.99.0@exu.ericsson.se> exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins) writes:
>I am not like alot of others I've read on here, I can only agree that the 
>Redskins won the game on one category the score. Unfortunatly it's the only 
>stat that counts, but if you think the Skins played well you my friend were 
>watching a different game than I was. The Cowboys lost this one plain and 
>simple. 
You don't have to play well to win a game, as long as the Cowboys play like
shit. Remember the FOUR turnovers? 

>The Skins did nothing but take the charity they were givin. Granted 
>it takes a team with some maturity to be able to take advantage of the 
>Cowboy mistakes but things like what happened to the boys don't happen very 
>often. 
Well, things like what happened to the Skins don't happen very often
either. I mean, Ryp has been a pro-bowl QB, how often do you see him
overthrowing (or underthrowing) receivers for an entire season?

The Cowboys turnovers an aberration? Then so are the overthrow/underthrow.

The Cowboys lost this game plain and simple? Right. The Redskins lost this
division race plain and simple. The Cowboys didn't win it. They are plain
lucky that Ryp lost his SB form.

>Let's look at thier previous games, they beat the pathetic Giants and 
>the Cards. If I'm not mistaken the Cowboys scored more points against both 
>teams and allowed fewer points from either of them. 
Well, at the Meadowlands: 

   Cowboys 34     Giants 28
   Redskins 28    Giants 10

at home:

   Cowboys 31      Cardinals 20
   Redskins 42     Cardinals 3

I don't know how you define "score more" or "allowed fewer". 

You better thank God that the Skins gave two games away (against the Cards and 
the Giants), or the Boys would have been 2nd place in the division (the Skins' 
6-1 vs the Boys' 6-2 in division record, the Skins 9-2 vs the Boys 7-3 in 
conference record). More evidence of "the Skins lost the division, the Boys 
didn't win it".

-- 
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                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: THE FOOTBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:04:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.211325.4343@asl.dl.nec.com> nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
>> the records or stats, as usual, that don't games on SUNDAY! So,
>> please excuse my RIGHT to woof, although I am not a SKINS FAN, but
>> a SKINS supporter!
>
>I doubt if the Redskin fans would claim you.
>
>Funny how you support only winning teams.   Is this so you can practice
>your self-righteous ranting more frequently?   Were you a 49er fan when
>they sucked?  You seem to have a good knowledge of football.  For once it
>would be nice to see you post something other than a slam of someone else's
>opinion or a putdown of someone elses team.
>
>David

My predictions have all been right. I said from the very
beginning that the Eagles, Jills, Broncos were psuedop-teams
and were not of caliber, championship material. I have
whacked the crap out of the Aikman theory, all with right
on accuracy. He cannot play in pressure situations. Go ahead
and make an ASS of yourself, you are quite capable. 
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: desouzmj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mike)
Subject: Re: Whiners CANNOT accept defeat
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:41:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.172340.18789@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:

> The following whiners cannot accept a loss. To wit:
> 
> >In Article  <vrao@nyx.cs.du.edu (Vinay Rao)> writes:
> >>In article jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
> >In Article <matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris)> writes:
> >>Fnk Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:rank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu> writes:
> >In Article: <skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)>
> >>In article <1992Dec14.051008.25870@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>  > ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	

Hey! John P. Gloria is listed four times!
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Leroy Butler v. Rod Woodson (was Re: Leroy Butler)
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:07:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Dec14.185951.886@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes...

>In article <1992Dec14.163015.4944@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec10.202901.28344@pellns.alleg.edu>, freshlt@quig16.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly) writes...
>> 
>> >	Yes but this was completely different from Rod Woodson's hit  
>> >on Moon.  Butler's hit came, as you say "many seconds after Andre  
>> >Ware had gotten a pass off".  In Woodson's case, Moon was in the act  
>> >of throwing the ball when he was hit by Moon.  Result=  Butler-  
>> >illegal hit (cheap shot),   Woodson - good, legal hit.
>> 
>> Once again, Butler's hit was not "many seconds" after the pass was 
>> released.  The league has said that the problem they have with the hit 
>> was not the timing or even the severity of the hit (Ware didn't even 
>> go down) but the fact that Butler left his feet to deliver the blow.
>> 
>> If he hadn't done that it wouldn't even have been noticed.
> 
>Butler, in the afforementioned play, was about two to three "running"
>strides away from Ware at the time of release, but leapt after taking 
>one more stride, hitting Ware in the head (a no-no in itself).  Blows to
>the head have long been illegal, quarterback or not.  The play should
>have been called by the ever observant referee :-) as personal foul,
>flagrant foul, and disqualification.  Jack Lambert had this very same
>thing called on him on a number of his hits, which prompted him to
>urge quarterbacks to cross-dress.

I don't mean to imply that the hit *shouldn't* have been noticed.  I'm 
not disputing Butler's suspension.  My point is that the suspension 
resulted from Butler throwing himself through the air at Ware, not 
from the hit being late or particularly severe.

This is important because it supports my belief that Butler was not 
trying to hurt Ware and that the act was not permeditated.  I think 
Butler got carried away and did something that he regretted even 
before the suspension.

JGH
From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:50:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Dec12.115009.16538
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: mracette@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Racette)
Subject: Re: 10 reasons why the Raiders suck
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:00:36 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Dec17.181752.2826@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mjmcgee@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Mark McGee) writes:
>Here are my top 10 list of things the Raiders have to do in order to
>get their team to resemble a sporting franchise.
>
>1.  Move back to Oakland
>2.  Get a new owner
>3.  Get a new head caoch
>4.  Get an intelligent/experienced offensive co-ordinator
>5.  Develop an actual offensive game plan
>6.  Stop employing people with drug problems
>7.  Join the scouting combine
>8.  Stop trading draft picks
>9.  Trade Marcus Allen and let him resume his career
>10. Stop allowing RAP DUDES to use the team emblem


You left out the NUMERO UNO thing the Raiders need to do.
GET A REAL QUARTERBACK!

>If someone out there can give me any good reason to be a
>Raider fan ( besides Raiderettes ) I 'd like to hear it.
>Help me... I'm considering becoming a Dallas Cowboy Fan!!!!!


Sorry, but I can't think of any good reason to be a Raider fan
or a Cowboy fan for that matter.


Mike R.


















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