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From: scotts@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Safier)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: PA Att. Gen. closes adult bookstores
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:41:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: MORPHEUS.SCOTTS.92Sep5004119
Distribution: soc
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: scotts@MORPHEUS.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU


	PHILADELPHIA (UPI) -- A Philadelphia judge Friday ordered three adult
bookstores to remain closed under a temporary injunction, and said that
the sexual activity that went on in them could spread AIDS.
	Attorney General Ernie Preate, who filed the civil suit seaking to
close the stores for good, applauded the decision, and called it a
public health issue.
	Judge Alex Bonavitacola said the operators of the three bookstores
were aware that unsafe sexual activity was going on, but had done
nothing to stop it.
	Bonavitacola in his ruling said the sexual activity taking place ``is
a means of spreading the HIV, and which may result in the fatal illness
known as AIDS.''
	However, medical experts testified during a hearing on the injunction
that there was little likelihood of spreading the disease through such
activity.
	The order affects the video booths at Fantasy Island Bookstore in the
northeast, the booths in Danny's New Adam and Eve Bookstore, and the
booths and ``California Couch Dancing'' section of Book Bin East, all in
downtown Philadelphia.
	The attorney general, who is up for re-election, has maintained adult
males engaged in illegal and unsafe sexual activity in the video booths,
while prostitution was conducted in the store that offered couch
dancing.
	Bonavitacola said, ``Great harm will be inflicted upon the citizens
of the commonwealth of Pennsylvania if the defendants are not enjoined
from maintaining video viewing booths where anonymous, unprotected
sexual activity has taken place.''
	The Philadelphia Health Department had set up a system to monitor
sexual activity in the bookstores, and to provide information on safe
sex, but stopped the monitoring when it as learned that nothing was
being done about the sexual activity. The department set up the system
in cooperation with the city's gay community in an effort to stem the
spread of AIDS.
	Preate said, ``This is a major public health issue. I want the owners
of commercial sex establishments of all kinds to know that we're going
to keep the pressure on them until they clean up their act.''
	He noted that district attorneys in three counties other than
Philadelphia had padlocked adult bookstores in their counties.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: *Welcome* to Cabal Talk
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:25:55 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <72133@apple.Apple.COM> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>As the original skit occured on Saturday Night Live - and you *most*
>*certainly* don't watch such a plebian show, it seems likely that
>you haven't got a clue what the whole thing was about in the first place.

More likely he wasn't commenting on that.

>Such an overwhelming shock it was to hear Mr. Anderson
>say he actually *liked* it (or perhaps, didn't *hate* it).

I thought it was amusing until you ran out of inspiration.

>...PMS-Envy is such a sorry thing in a queen of advancing years.

More misogyny.  God, you're such a hateful little twit; how can you be
surprised at the reactions you engender?  Get thee behind me!  Hmmmn,
on second thought...ferget it!

>The only solution is to get knocked up, perhaps
>two or three times a day for the next four weeks.  You'll probably
>have to spend a little money on Santa Monica, but think of it as an
>investment in future happiness.  Or perhaps one of the Babar will
>consent to a pity fuck.  Pity fuck for Arne, everyone - any takers?

God, just look at him.  It's revolting.

>Melmac the Unmentionable
>(being compared to a product that does 6 billion + per year doesn't
>seem to be a particularly harsh fate...)

And he's not joking here.  QED.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Subject: Re: boobs
Reply-To: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:30:04 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <SHELMREI.92Sep8093025@aiolon.nmsu.edu>, shelmrei@nmsu.edu
(Stephen Helmreich) writes:
|>
|>On I-25 between Las Cruces and Albuquerque there is an exit for two
|>small towns:
|>
|>	Derry and Array, so the sign marks the Derry-Array exit.
|>

On I-5 between Portland and Seattle, there is the "Dike Access Road" exit.		
I'm thinking about buying some land near there.  :)

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		      Honor Diversity
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From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Message for Powell Way
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:17:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vpnet Public Access


Powell,

All my mail to you is being returned by scarolina.edu.  Better get a
better address than scbear!powell@opusc.csdscarolina.edu.  It don't
work!  Here's the header:

Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:26:14 -0400
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <postmaster@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu>
Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown
Message-Id: <9209030126.AA18021@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu>
To: <balr!vpnet!lisbon@clout.chi.il.us>
Status: RO

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Database /usr/local/lib/palias is being updated.
Try again later.
550 <scbear!powell@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu>... Host unknown

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Subject: Re: Hamfest
To: scbear!powell@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu (Powell Way)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:50:15 CDT
From: Gerry Swetsky <lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us>
Organization: Vpnet - Public access Unix and Usenet
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL4]

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan)
Subject: Re: "Behind the Hate in Oregon"
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:32:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.210315.22283@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>But after dealing with this downer attitude we are now becoming more and 
>more angry.  I have made a pact with myself to hug everyone of my Gay and 
>Lesbian friends when we meet in public.  I mean we do it in the clubs
>and at the beach and at meetings and parades and functions, why not in 
>"real" life too.  

Good for you!  I sometimes make some of my friends nervous with my
openness, and perhaps they're right in saying that it can be too
dangerous to show affection in some non-gay spaces, but I'll be damned
if I'm going to let the bigots rule my life.  There's a certain pride
that comes from dancing with another man on an otherwise straight
dance floor!  (Yes, as horrible as it might seem, I *do* occassionally
end up in a non-gay bar! :-)

>My attitude at this point, if 9 passes, is to make these people's 
>laws work against them.  One of my ideas is to 
>call for the removal of all religious materials from the public libraries,
>all works written by and inspired by religion.  I just feel that if they 
>are going to insert a piece of shitty laws into the "people's" constitution
>and then use that against us then maybe it is time to use it ourselves 
>against them.  Separation of Church and State ring a bell.  

Err, umm, <hem/haw>...

As much as the OCA disgusts me, I still don't think it's right to lash
out and demand that other people's rights/freedoms be taken away.  Using
libraries as a battleground in this fashion is far too dangerous, IMHO.
Where will it end?  OCA gets gay material banned.  Someone else gets
religious material banned.  Then any material relating to sex.  On and
on it goes, and *nobody* wins, except the fascists who want to control
everyone else.

As for separation of Church and State, well, anytime the Church tries to
codify its beliefs into law applicable to everyone, fight them tooth
and nail!  But it's not right to deny them the right to exist, any more
than it's right for them to deny *us* the right to exist.

I guess that's an inherent problem with believing in diversity and
acceptance, since we can't easily take a stance of "Wipe 'em out!",
whereas those who are not so open have no problem in doing so.  Why
am I suddenly reminded of the line "It's been my experience that in
the battle between Good and Evil, Evil often wins, unless Good is
very, very clever."  :-/   It's time to be very, very clever.

-- 
Michael Bryan  michael@resonex.com  "Milk and Cheese in '92!"  |     ,_,
"Lovers are like... dentures.  You don't want them in your     |    /oo \
mouth all night, but you sure as hell want them within arm's   |    <>__|
reach in the morning!"  --- Miss Elmira Gulch                  |    |  U|
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Stimulating Photos
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:46:46 GMT

In Portland I flipped through a Mapplethorpe collection at Alan's house
(and at Powell's, too, come to think of it). One of my favorite pictures
in it was one of a guy in a polyester suit, his huge black uncut dick
hanging out of the fly (cropped so all you could see of the man outside
the suit was his cock). I thought the picture was *really* affecting
(all those various stigmas and stereotypes; bad fashion, perverted excess
flesh, the legendary Big Black Cock...). Probably 'pornographic', but I
wasn't turned on by it, just intrigued by the mind that created it and
amazed that so many things could be encapsulated in one really powerful
image.

Anyone know when that picture was taken? Was it when polyester suits were
still in fashion? It'd make a difference in what the picture meant when
it was taken...

John

--
John Dorrance  * Don't fuck with Ms. Congeniality *  thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

	Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders
	     what the part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: InterOp Fall 92!  motss get-together?
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:13:52 GMT
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hello!

(this is a *little* painful.  Last InterOp I went to, Rob was a gracious
host for the mini motss con.  What a time!)

I'm going to InterOp this fall, and will likely be staying at one of the
cheaper conference hotels or possibly at the Willows B&B, not too far away.

So: I'm hereby volunteering to coordinate a get-together or two.  It'll
probably be dinner followed by an evening of roaming around.  Send me a
note, and we'll do a little short-lived mailing list for organization.

If anyone in S.F. wants to help coordinate, why, I'd sure like to hear
from you, too!  Here are the details:
 - Interop will be from 26-30 October, held in the Moscone Convention 
   Centre at Folsom & 3rd. 
 - Lots of people tack a vacation on the beginning or end of Interop.  
 - It's possible to spend from 8am to 10pm at the con, but most people 
   burn out and need some time away after the first or second day.
 - Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday are tutorials and talks, which are more
   or less structured, Thursday and Friday are the show itself, completely
   chaotic.
 - People have email connectivity during the con, but usually not before
   or after.

(For the edification of people who don't know what InterOp is: it's the
world TCP/IP Internet convention, turning into trade show.  There's a small
one held in the spring of each year, and the big one is in San Francisco
(used to be San Jose) in the fall.  Last year there were 35,000 visitors
and 250 vendors connected on "Shownet", a globally connected internet.
Interoperability with other vendors on Shownet was the original purpose of
Interop; it has very much changed to be mostly a trade show in the last few
years.)

This year, the Internet Bicycle, BEHEMOTH, will be the main feature
novelty.  BEHEMOTH is a 105-speed recumbent bicycle with an onboard network
of Mac, PC, Unix system with UUCP email and news, cellular phone, modem
fax, satellite dish, ham radio, heads-up display, handlebar chording
keyboard, speech synthesizer/security system, and stereo.

--
	Daniel MacKay				daniel@nstn.ns.ca
	NOC Manager, NSTN Operations Centre	902-494-NSTN
	Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
From: John_Graves@cellbio.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: not threatening
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:25:39 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center

I've heard the term "not threatening" bandied around.  One use has been to
equate "not threatening" with a "straight-seeming" usage.  The intent has been
to suggest that drag queens, leather folk, s&m-ers, etc. are counter-productive
to the glb movement because those folk make the straights see us as too weird.

I would suggest, au contraire, that it is the person who fits into straight
society and who comes out who may be "too threatening."

It is the lesbian school teacher who threatens straights.

It is the gay male construction worker who threatens straights.

(You may substitute any job for the above)

It is the regular type of person who is doing a regular type of job, dressed
like any other person there, who really shakes up and threatens the average
bigot.

Straights are not afraid of gays and Lesbians because they're afraid of cross
dressers or stereotypical anything.  What they are afraid of is not knowing who
is straight and who isn't.  There afraid of having to watch what they say and
do.  They afraid that someone may be a role model for their kids.

Straights can deal with the TV images which make us different.  It's the GBL's
who are so regular that threaten them.  

I hope they do feel threatened.  I hope they do have to confront their fears.  

So, do I think it's better to be a regular type person or to be more like a
stereotyped image of GLB?

Yes and No.  A straight-seeming GLB who never or rarely lets straights know is
not as useful to awareness as a more stereotypical GLB person who may or may
not be out.

Or, keep em guessing.  


John Allan Graves
Unitarian Universalist 
Campus and Young Adult Minister. 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: larsm@ifi.uio.no (Lars Markhus)
Subject: Request for the Vatican text on GLB-people.
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:17:56 GMT
Originator: larsm@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no



Has anyone got the original text of the recent Vatican statement on
GLB people?  

If so, please email me the text or email directions on where it may be 
obtained, by ftp or other means.

This request is on behalf of the International secretary of DNF48, Norways
main GLB political org.


Thanks

LarsM
-- 
Lars Markhus -- larsm@ifi.uio.no (Student)
Institute of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: The Harrassing Phone Calls Can Stop NOW!
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:09:10 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Sep10.154451.1822@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
> In article <12195@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

# #This is exactly why I can't take homosexuals seriously.  I have
# #repeatedly made it clear that I want the government to leave
# #people alone unless they engage in force or fraud against others,
# #and you have this crazy idea that I would support some sort of
# #extermination scheme.  Not at all, and I would vigorously
# #oppose (by all means necessary) any such effort to exterminate
# #homosexuals.
# 
# No problem here. 
# 
# So what about a compromise then:
# 
# Remove all discrimination laws (including any regarding religion), and
# make homosexuals and heterosexuals equal in all respects under the law.
# Marriages, military service, equal protection from police, etc.
# 
# I'd vote for it...

So would I.  Of course, I think I would prefer to remove marriage
from the government's involvement completely.  The state sanctioning
of a religious rite seems a little questionable on First Amendment
grounds.

Equal protection from police?  You've got it now -- which is to
say, straights aren't safe either.  My brother-in-law's wife was
thrown to the ground, kicked and punched repeatedly, with cracked
ribs, concussion, bruises, etc.  The police arrived 90 minutes 
later, there was a stack of witnesses attending the same picnic,
and they weren't particularly interested in pursuing the criminals
who did it.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 20:14:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <5#rn++-.rich@netcom.com> rich@netcom.com (Richard Poppen) writes:
>In article <joelp.715858465@cs.man.ac.uk> joelp@cs.man.ac.uk
>
>>In 1876 James (?) Tilden defeated Rutherford B. Hayes in the popular vote, but
>>the electoral votes from a number of Southern states were contested.  The
>>Republican-dominated Congress set up a Republican-dominated committee which
>>awarded all the disputed votes to Hayes.
>

I think the committee had seven Democrats and seven Republicans; the awarded
votes were given to Hayes in return for scrapping Reconstruction powers of
the Fed. Tilden was sacrificed.

Motss relevance? Less Than Zero.


-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543
                         Fax: 805.944.5958
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: adoption
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:58:21 GMT
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
: 
: >pmele@ldgo.columbia.edu (phil mele):
: >> one of the points being that as an unmarried couple
: >> living apart who were allowed to adopt children, a president is set that
: >> should make it easier for gay people to adopt.
: 
: >i knew i liked bill clinton... :-)
: 
: Clinton? Ooh. I got Carter. Doesn't he look *swell*? Just had him done
: today. He says it didn't hurt at all when they curled him. Amazing.
: His eyes *did* water a lot when they put on the president-spray, but
: he's recovered nicely. He's still really heavy, and none of my hats
: fit over him, but that's the price you pay. And I got a free child, to
: boot! I think next month I'm going to get a Lincoln; so retro...
: 
Be sure to dress him in a nice respectable Republican cloth coat ...


Kathy, revealing my Checkered past.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: cc0001@medtronic.COM (Christopher Carriero)
Subject: Re: sunglasses and hats
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:25:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.030746.25278@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n8442349@henson.cc.wwu.edu (The Matriarch) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.084820.16234@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
> writes:
>>
>>Maybe this is urban legend material, but isn't there a medicinal drug
>>that people take that makes people have orgasms when they yawn?
>>
>>(my first memory is "Rogaine", which if I am to believe my first two
>>Psych lectures means that "Rogaine" is probably correct. I'm pretty
>>sure I can rule it out, though :-)

Well, I asked my partner, who is using Rogaine, if it is causing this
side-effect.  He looked at and rolled his eyes and walked away.

I then asked a good friend of ours who is a sales person for Upjohn
(maker of Rogaine).  She said that was the first she ever heard of it.

We had a lot of fun with this rumor the other night at a party :-)
but that's another story...


-- Chris


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From: kellyc@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: 1-700-A-GAY-MAN
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:33:31 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <l0mnkgp.jfh@netcom.com>, jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> Arnold, if he's feeling perverse, might want to ask for 277-4653.  Any
> other ideas?

Some of us don't know how the alphabet maps to the digits. (For that matter, 
is the same mapping used where ever mapping occurs at all?)

Can somebody post the mapping please?

Cathal,

lost in little old Ireland where a phone number is a phone _number_
From: gklein@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Gary Klein, bear at heart)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: advice sought: handling on-street harassment
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:54:32 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Carlson Library, Univ of Toledo

In article <la5haaINN3lp@mizar.usc.edu>, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) 
   writes:
> A couple of years ago, West Hollywood was overrun on the weekends
> by Fundies who'd harrass people walking down the street, shouting
> things similar to what you've quoted here.  I've always responded
> to these people the same way: if they're standing in front of me,
> a request such as "Get the fuck out of my way, asshole" usually 
> suffices, particularly when I put on my nasty-faggot-from-hell
> expression; if they try to hand me something, I don't reach to
> take it from them; if they shout something at me, I shout something
> scabrous back at them.  But they don't annoy me, since they're so
> clearly delusional.  

     I always try to get the leaflets that are being handed out by
Funadmentalist Preachers From Hell.  Cause, if you don't take the pamphlets out
of circulation, they might actually find themselves in the hands of someone who
believes that sort of drivel.

     Similarly, every now & then, I will telephone one of those TV evangelists
from hell, take a few minutes on the phone (cause they are paying for each call
to there 800 number), and drain at least a few cents from their coffers. 
Lately, the only ones that I have phoned ended up by having those TouchTone
phone response systems.  

Press 1 for Fire & Brimstone,
Press 2 for Joining our ministry,
Press 69 for some real fun.
-- 
                                               "Librarian, Leather bound"
Gary Klein,   Business Librarian,  (Univ of Toledo)           * * * * 
PO Box 12650                  Toledo OH  43606-0250            *   *   
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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 8 Sep 1992 22:06:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <72176@apple.Apple.COM> 
mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:

> (see?  Even Jewish homosexual Nazi war-crimnals (sp) have *some* taste)
>
> Melmac the Unmentionable (again)

Listen, Melmon, why don't you give it a rest?  You've got everyone's
attention already.  Relax.  Grow into your net.persona instead of
trying so hard.  Quite frankly, I could do without the "Nazi war-
crimnal" wisecracks, and the fact that you're a Reaganista *is* 
awfully hard to overlook, but it's clear you've got some brains and 
perhaps even some taste.  If you keep going like this you're going
to alienate *everyone*, and then you'll just be ignored.  Is that 
what you want?

Arne

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