From: ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash)
Subject: Re: What is the porblem ?
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:08:24 GMT

In <1993Jan21.145903.46603@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>In my opinion, religious tension is not created by talking about religious
>>issues. Quite the opposite. Silence and censorship create the kind of
>>ignorance and lack of communication that promotes stereotypes and intol-
>>erance. Religious prejudice and other forms of bias are overcome by knowing
>>members of other religions as people, by trying to understand (if not agree
>>with) their belief systems and customs, and by openly communicating.

>I agree. Talking about religious issues may not create religious tension, as
>long as several considitons are met:
>	1. It is not a negative campaign about other's religions. 
>You see, this is just what the potings debated are all about. They are not
>informative about the writers' religion(s), but rather discuss what is wrong 
>about other religion according to the writers'. This certainly can create 
>tension.


First of all there was no campains against any religions in either of
the postings. The original posting reflects the understanding of the
situation of Jesus (pbuh), being dead or alife, by the first writer
(Tahir Ijaz), and the reply by the second writer (Ahmed El-Habbash)
reflects his understanding to the same issue. Both writers refer to the
same sources of the same religion. There was no tension, and both
articles were highly informative. It is not necessarily that the information
provided is absolutely correct, but it reflects the understanding and
the belief of each writer.

As I mentioned before in my posting " What is the problem ??", My
posting was a response to the initial posting by Tahir Ijaz. I have
never read nor written to "aci" before this posting. The reply was
automatically sent to your group as it was sent to so many other groups
on the net, as well. The first time to know that I had an interaction
with your group was after I had received the email messages from the
guards of the aci. After these email complaints, I started reading aci,
with an intention to know something about the culture of this unique kind of
people. Reading  aci latter, I discovered that there were other
objections to some other posters; one of them is (Hsiahaan) who was
asking about the stand of indonesia regarding the US attack on Iraq, and
I was surprised by the replies. 

>>>I think you are
>>>not familiar with the situation in Indonesia regarding religion aside from 
>>>the fact that 80% of Indonesia is technically Muslim.

>>I think the poster was familiar with this fact, which is why he thought that
>>this would be an appropriate newsgroup.

>On contrary, I think he is not. That is why he posted to A.C.I. The only thing
>that I think motivated him to post his writing here is his stereotyping of all
>Indonesians are Moslems and (Indonesian) Moslems have small tolerance on (In-
>donesian) Non-Moslems.

This is again a strange personal opinion. How did you know all that
information about me ? The only message that I sent to your group was a
response to some message which happened to be sent to your group among
many other groups.  I don't know where you have got all these ideas
about my motivations to send to sci.

Anyhow, thanks to all of these responses, which I received and read on
aci, they gave me, indirectly, an idea about the culture of the people 
of Indonesia. Perhaps I need to know more.


>HSIAHAAN
-- 
Ahmed I. El-Habbash, 
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
Tel: office: +353-1-7021524,  Home: +353-1-937402.
	
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