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From: ilene@city (Ilene Marks)
Subject: Re: The FIRM...
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:41:54 GMT

In article <11AUG199210391321@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS) writes:

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> From: psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS)
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> Does anyone have any comments (good and bad) about The FIRM video tapes?  I 
> just recieved a catalog from them, and it's loaded with all kinds of great
> customer satisfaction letters that are so enticing to me it makes me want
> to run out and order everything in the book!!!  

> Thanks in advance!

> Maureen Burns


Everything? I'd forget the clothes and gadgets, but order as many of their
videos as possible. They are the absolute best ones on the market.

(my jaded opinion only - I taught classes for 4 years a while ago,
and now I'm too picky to put up with the silly cheerleaders at the
local health club, so I'm always looking for good videos)

So far here are my favorites in order:

1. The Firm Volumes 1, 4, and 5
2. The Firm Volume 6
3. The Firm Volume 3
   (You need dumbells for all of the Firm series, two each of at least
    3 lbs, 5 lbs, 10 lbs, 12 lbs, later on 15s and 20s
    You also need a 10 inch step or stool for volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6
    All 6 volumes are good workouts, the instructors range from
    good to excellent, all are non-silly, non-boring, non-insulting
    to your intelligence, and not too fancy or dancy so people trip
    over the carpet constantly. 

4. Step Ahead by Carolan Brown (Di's personal trainer)

5. Cherfitness (actually its Cher's personal trainer who leads the class
                and she and her program are pretty good)

6. Firm Volume 2 (my opinion, because I don't care for low-impact aerobics
   otherwise the tape is pretty good)

7. Rev up by Charlene Prickett

Here is my "mediocre" list in no particular order:
   Reeboks video
   Karen Voights stuff (got good reviews but I was bored)
   Kari Anderson (top rated, no idea why)
   the "Benchaerobix" series
   Becky Tirabassi's "Step into Fitness"

Anything by:
  Jane Fonda, Richard Simmons, Denise Austin (too silly)
  Kathy Smith (technically ok, but too easy and condescending)
  Victoria Johnson (confusing fancy steps, funk music)
  
Does anyone else have a list too?
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:31:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland

I have posted armwrestling exercises a few times.  When I get time, I'll do
it again.  I will post also how to get the armwrestling mag (not that anyone
really cares).  :-)

							-Adam

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     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
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From: brian@njord.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson)
Subject: Re: Drug use at the Olympics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:04:07 GMT

segordon@amherst.edu writes:
>	Why was she exempted from being tested?

     When I heard the statement that Princess Anne was not given a sex
test, no reason was given.  I inferred that it may be because it would be
humiliating for a member of royalty to subjected to such a test.

					Brian Ackerson
					brian@odin.scs.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)
Subject: Pulled Groin Muscle Question	
Reply-To: rpark@stam.bell.ca
Organization: CER, Bell Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:54:15 GMT

I pulled a muscle (possible groin). There is a pain where my leg meets the torso.
When I lift my leg up in a certain direction, I can feel the pulled muscle pain.
Because I play sports (3 times per week) I don't think I will be able to take
a few weeks off to heal. It seems to take about 30 minutes of warmup to get it
loose so that it doesn't cause pain. The first few times of running full tilt seems
to casue pain but after the pain occurs once or twice during the next hour that
I am playing soccer/football or hockey.

Does anyone know how to treat it/warm up so I can get it healed asap while still
-playing sports?

-- 
Richard Park	
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Heart rates...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:00:19 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Aug10.010445.1602@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Aug4.132902.23402@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
>vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>>The book "The New Fit or Fat" stresses that the old formula for max
>>heart rate (220 - age) is not valid for those with slow resting pulse
>>rates.  This would seem to imply that fitter you are, the lower your
>>max heart rate is.  I can't confirm this though, so I could be wrong.
>
>I think it's the other way around.  My brother told me about someone
>he rows with, whose pulse reaches 250.  I don't know his resting
>pulse, but it's probably rather lower than average.
>
From TNFoF, p 42:

	"Here is another major change from my original book in 1977.  At 
	that time, the intensity of exercise was largely based on the 
	formula 220 minus your age = maximum heart rate.

	In those days we thought that this formula applied to a large
	percentage of the population...we now know that it applies to
	only about 60%.  Approximately 15% have hearts that beat
	considerably slower than the predicted maximum and another
	15% have hearts that beat much faster.  This doesn't mean there's
	anything wrong with these hearts...it just means they aren't
	average."

Bailey goes on to suggest using the "talk test".  If you are unable to
talk, you are working too hard.  If you can sing the Star Spangled
Banner, you aren't working hard enough :-).

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: Re: what energy drink do you use?
Organization: EnviraForm
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:15:27 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.


On 13 Aug 92 00:00:29 GMT, jyk50@quts.ccc.amdahl.com (  242  J Kretschmann 
III), in Message-ID: <betZ02SE1dfP01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> writes:

>I recently picked some stuff at the General Nutrition Center (GNC) called 
>Gainer 1800.  I believe it is made by Pro. 

   If you have the time, could you post or email the ingredients listing?

Thanks

---------
Lance Sanders
starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM / GE Mail: L.Sanders6 / Vox: (312) 667-5958

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From: mmb@po.CWRU.Edu (Melina M. Barreca)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Want to lose weight?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:56:36 GMT
Reply-To: mmb@po.CWRU.Edu (Melina M. Barreca)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) says:

>
>Well, now that its about the end of the summer (at least, I won't be on USENET
>until fall semester starts for me), this is a good time for me to post the
>results of my summer workouts.
>
>I started out with a reasonable amount of muscle (I've been working out on
>and off for about 2+ years, and before the summer started I was doing a lot
>of high-reps low weight workouts). I weighed in at about 192 lbs, and I was
>eating a lot of junk food and exercising aerobically an average of once a
>week.
>
>Anyway, at the beginning og June I started working out a very regular
>schedule-- 3 days on and one day off. My program has developed into a
>mass building program with lots of aerobic exercise:
>	Day 1-	Chest (bench, incline, flat w/dumbells)
>		Back (Chin-ups, Close grip lat pull downs, barbell rowers)
>		Abs
>		Stairmaster for 35 minutes at 70-85% max heart rate
>	Day 2-  Legs (Squats, Leg Presses)
>		Shoulders (Military press, 2 of side/front/rear raises,
>			and shrugs for the traps)
>	Day 3-	Biceps (standing straightbar curls, preacher curls,
>			supinated curls w/ dumbells)
>		Triceps (nosebreakers, dips, reverse pushdowns)
>		Abs
>		Stairmaster for 35 minutes
>	Day 4-  rest
>
>Most exercises I do for 3-5 sets, between 6-10 reps, warming up with lower
>weights at 12 reps.
>
>In addition to the above program, I began eating lowfat foods, and consuming
>more protein. I am vegetarian, and I estimate that now I eat about 10-15% of
>my calories from fat, and I probably eat between 80-100 grams a protein a
>day. I haven't tallied my daily calorie intake.
>
>Well, I am down to about 178 lbs now, and I have gotten a lot stronger and
>I have more definition than at the beginning of the summer. (BTW, I am about
>5'9"). I also made gains in my workouts for about 5 weeks straight before
>beginning to plateau (and the I got sick just before I plateau-ed). I still
>have a ways to go on the losing the fat, but I am definitely heading in the
>right direction. (At one point about a year and half ago I was up to 215..)
>
>Anyway, I just thought that you might all be interested.
>
>Luther
>
>

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!  I started lifting 6 says a week this summer(as
opposed to my 3 days a week) and periodically did aerobic exercises.
I have lost 3 sizes(yes, I'm female) and have gained a lot of
muscle.  

Doesn't it feel great?!?!?!?!

-- 
I've tried....I've really tried...but you leave me no choice...

	THE BITCH IS BACK AND TAKING NO PRISONERS
From: cline+@cs.cmu.edu (Kenneth Cline)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Pulled Groin Muscle Question
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:15:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bt8I9y.92o.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug18.135415.7356@animal.er.bell.ca> rpark@stam.bell.ca writes:
>I pulled a muscle (possible groin). There is a pain where my leg meets the torso.
>When I lift my leg up in a certain direction, I can feel the pulled muscle pain.
>Because I play sports (3 times per week) I don't think I will be able to take
>a few weeks off to heal. It seems to take about 30 minutes of warmup to get it
>loose so that it doesn't cause pain. The first few times of running full tilt seems
>to casue pain but after the pain occurs once or twice during the next hour that


You can continue playing, but this is risky.  First, an injured muscle
is weaker than one that is healthy.  It is not unusual to aggrevate
an injury during sports participation.  Second, you may tend to
compensate for the injury and thereby expose other muscles to unusual
stresses.  Third, exercise tends to mask the pain associated with
injury.  You may worsen the injury without realizing it until
afterwards.

As for dealing with a muscle pull:  Ice is very helpful - it reduces
inflammation and improves blood flow.  Use ice after exercise, before
warmup (warmup very slowly at first), and anytime in between.  Direct
heat is of less value, but dress warmly to keep your muscles warm
while exercising.  Light stretching may be helpful, but remember that
pain is a sign that something is wrong.  Aggressive stretching may
just make things worse.  Most importantly, take it easy on the injury
until it is healed.  Pay attention to how you feel, and be prepared
for setbacks.  A little rest now may save you a lot of rest later.

Ken
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Crystalline aminos vs peptide aminos
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:52:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Aug20.000426.18506@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.131833.307@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>>>>I'm wondering how other bodybuilders out there feel about pure crystalline
>>>>aminos vs. peptide bonded aminos.
>>> Well, "peptide-bonded" aminos generally taste better, because that's
>>> what hamburger, eggs, cheese, milk, tofu, etc. all are.
>>
>>-Thankyou for the valuable info.  My body needs none of the above.
>
>Living a "protein-free lifestyle", eh?  Well, it's only for the select
>and special, I guess.
>
>P.S.: Don't all those Joe Weider amino acid capsules get a little boring
>after a while?
>
>-- 
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer

Steve,

	I think he meant that he doesn't need fattening things like hamburgers,
whole eggs, cheese, whole milk.  I know Rob, and he eats VERY smartly.

							-Adam

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     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
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From: pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fitness Thoughts
Summary: You can do it more than once a day.
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:19:01 GMT
Organization: StorageTek, Louisville, CO

In article <1992Aug17.191905.5016@ultb.isc.rit.edu> kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.080344.28886@edwards-vax.af.mil>, 
>becker@edwards-vax.af.mil writes:
>
>>You do realize that for burning FAT you must find your target heart
>>rate and keep it at that rate for 20 minutes before your body begins
>>to burn fat?  THat is why it is good to do a 40 minute aerobic workout
>>twice a day....gives you the best results.
>
>Whoa, *TWICE* a day? [...]
>
>I question your recommendation that people do aerobic workouts of 40 minute
>duration twice a day.  I think this recommendation is reasonable for anyone
>*in training* for something, but not for the average person interested in
>becoming or staying fit.

There's absolutely no problem participating in aerobic exercise twice (or
more) a day, *provided* the person exercising pays meticulous attention to
injury prevention. This means having several different aerobic exercises,
drinking lots of water/fluids, maintaining good nutrition, and learning to
"listen" to his body's aches and pains. It's also important to avoid
psychological burn-out with exercise....someone who wants to try this should
clearly make the choice themselves, and not feel at all ashamed or embarassed
if it doesn't work for them.

>I find that my own *once a day* 30-40 minute workouts suffice to keep my
>fitness and metabolic levels stable, and I don't have the time or interest to
>do more than that.

That's fine. If people are committed to losing weight quickly, exercising more
frequently than you do may be appropriate.

>I also don't want to mislead any beginning fitness enthusiasts to be
>discouraged by such a demanding recommendation (40 mins 2x daily); 20 minutes
>once a day of strenuous exercise is good for most people.

Once a day is fine; if people want to lose fat more quickly, there's no
hard-and-fast rule that they can't do more. It's kind of like the rule what
most of us heard growing up: Don't go swimming until an hour after eating.
Hogwash!  There's no categorical reason to stay out of the water for that long
after a meal.

>Katie

--phil
From: potter@silver.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF))
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Met-rx ordering info...
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:22:55 GMT
Organization: U. S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
Originator: potter@usna


   For those interested:

  Met-rx is marketed exclusively by NSA. When ordering make sure
that you mention fact that you need the instructions along with
the order, otherwise you may not get them....

  NSA Inc.
  P.O. Box 277
  Golden, Colorado 80402-0277
  1-800-637-1572



   I have also received several requests for information regarding
 the Legendary Abs program that I mentioned in a previous article.
 This can be obtained from:

   Health For Life
   8033 Sunset Blvd.
   Suite 483
   Los Angeles, California 90046
   1-213-450-0070

  This address is a may be dated, I don't know I haven't been able
to get a recent catalog from them!

  Good luck!

 Jeff



  
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
Subject: Life Cycle comments wanted
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:52:10 GMT


I'd like to know people's opinions about the "Life Cycle" weight training
machines used in gyms. Good, bad?

-- 
"I had generously shown on the stage my interior life as a raging beast, but
 my exterior life as a mediocre human being and dilettante of of normal int-
 elligence remained unchronicled...I *knew* that beneath my work's primeval,
 hysterical facade there was a calm little writer in an armchair just waiting
 to burst forth." -- Wally Shawn, on the writing of "My Dinner With Andre'"
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ak536@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (B. Wanchisen)
Subject: Re: .			Hey B.....
Reply-To: ak536@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (B. Wanchisen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 02:18:01 GMT


In a previous article, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) says:
>
>Roughly one hour after a 30-minute aerobic workout, my
>urine was slightly yellow. Does this mean I'm not hydrating
>myself well enough after working out?

No - it means your urine is yellow.  
HTH.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Drug use at the Olympics
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:07:49 GMT

In article <brian.713729047@njord>, brian@njord.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson) writes:
> segordon@amherst.edu writes:
> >	Why was she exempted from being tested?
> 
>      When I heard the statement that Princess Anne was not given a sex
> test, no reason was given.  I inferred that it may be because it would be
> humiliating for a member of royalty to subjected to such a test.

That was the reason, she was royalty.

Of course, I'm still curious about what sort of drugs the powers-that-be
think could enhance the performance of the rider (not the horse).  Is
there one all-encompassing list that applies to every Olympic sport 
no matter how incongrous, or are there different lists for the different
events?

A synchronized swimmer in a 'roid rage .  Oooh, what a frightening
thought... 
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John Reece			"Oop. Ack. Pfffthpt"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			- Bill the Cat
From: laurie@tcom.stc.co.uk (Laurie Constantin)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fat olympians
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:27:58 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.

In article <Bsw6M7.MC5@cs.columbia.edu> robin@cs.columbia.edu (Jacques Robin) writes:
>
>Why are so many olympic throwers and heavyweight lifters fat?
>

	In events where there are no bodyweight limits there tends to be fat
	people doing it. In an attempt to gain USEFUL muscle mass they also
	put on fat which doesn't matter MUCH. That's why most (all?) the
	weightlifters up to the supers were not fat and nearly all of the
	supers were fat.

	Although it's not meant to be a help or a hinderance did you notice
	that the superheavy weightlifter gold medalist was NOT fat? It does
	seem that there is a slight disadvantage in carrying fat, especially
	larger amounts, due to agility etc.

	Laurie.


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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: xcpslf@decsrv.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (stephen l favor)
Subject: Re: How 'bout breasts (I'll take two)
Reply-To: xcpslf@oryx.com
Organization: Oryx Energy Co., Dallas, Texas.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:04:44 GMT

Anyone documenting the ratio of men to women in this thread?
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From: dbell@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Dave Bell)
Subject: Re: George Herbert Walker Bush is from a Planet far far away
Newsgroups: misc.misc,misc.jobs.offered.entry,misc.test,alt.test
Reply-To: dbell@ics.uci.edu (Dave Bell)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:02:31 GMT

In article <486m3_l.jeffp@netcom.com> jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau) writes:
>I don't see why people are so hard on this idea, not if they have done some
>HOMEWORK on the subject. Has anyone read Aliens Among Us? Stranger in
>the Pentagon? Strangers Amoung Us? Star People?
>
[ other imaginative stuff deleted...]

>
>Jeff-
>
>
>

Please post this to alt.out.of.this.world.sci.fi.imaginations.toss.my.cookies.
etc.misc.

Some of us are actually looking for job posts...


Dave
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From: vu0350@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (allen lutins)
Subject: History of sex & machines: Request for info
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:51:22 GMT

Howdy all!  ...i'm currently doing research on sex in cyberspace;
for historical background, i'm attempting to trace the history of
the use of machines as sexual substitutes.  I have two references
already (a 1933 article by V. Tausk in _Psychoanalytic Quarterly_
and an undated article by J. Del Torto in _Neurotica_), but would
appreciate any others that any of y'all could supply (including
early references to virtual sex in *early* sci-fi novels)...

ALSO, i'm looking for the words to a ballad i learned as a child
at day-camp & have since forgotten...it was about a `fucking
machine,' and the chorus went (to the best of my memory): "Around
and round goes the big fucking wheel, in and out go those big
gears of steel, in and out until she cried, `Enough! Enough! I'm
satisfied!'"   ...this may be the same ballad that is mentioned
in _The Limerick_ thus:  "`The Great Wheel' [sung] to the hymn-
tune `Oh Master, Let Me Walk With Thee' beginning: `A sailor told
me ere he died, I don't know whether the bastard lied, his wife
had had a cunt so wide, she never could ever be satisfied"  ...if
this is not the same ballad, i'd appreciate if anyone knows this
one, too...

...thanks so much to anyone who can help me with my off-the-wall
request...and *PLEASE REPLY VIA E-MAIL* as i don't follow the groups
to which i posted this request...tnx...
							-allen
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"There is nothing either good or bad, |  allen h. lutins      vy8934@bingvaxa
but thinking makes it so."	      |  VU0350@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu
	    Shakespeare (Hamlet II:2) |  "Individualists of the world, Unite!"
From: wirth@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Jesse Wirth)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: FBI and cars
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:35:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago, Astronomy and Astrophysics

Hi everybody,
in newspapers you always see those ads 
with 800 numbers and they claim to have 
FBI ceased cars and the like starting from 
$ 25.- and so on. Did anybody ever call or 
better investigate that in more detail???
I'd like to hear what your experiences were.
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