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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: microencapsulated pyrethrins
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:30:54 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Jul23.021626.11686@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ai257@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda L. McConnell) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner) says:
> 
>>
>>DH>I have used Duratrol from 3M.
>>
>>I have also used Duratrol from 3M when we saw fleas on Chaska our Keeshond in
>>mid June. (remember my panic post?:))  This stuff is WONDERFUL!  
> 
> Tell me more, tell me more. . . 

Duratrol is microencapsulated chlorpyrifos (Dursban), fairly toxic stuff.
If you are really concerned about toxicity, you should look into Sectrol
(also 3M), microencapsulated pyrethrins (very low toxicity to mammals) and
consider adding a plain Precor (=methoprene) spray.  This should get
you by for 5-6 months between treatments.  Precor+Sectrol is recommended
for homes with pregnant women or crawling infants.

Sectrol and Duratrol are sold in pet supply stores and in vets offices.
Both are fairly expensive, but I hear they work well.  I'm still using
plain Precor every 5 months, and I've had no problems.  

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: More Cat Toys
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:34:59 GMT

vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:

>In article <GIBSON.92Jul27074258@dl5000.bc.edu> gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson) writes:
>>
>>If the cat has a small toy she likes that will fit in a shoe, try giving
>>her an old shoe and putting the toy in it.

>Ah, the old toy-in-the-shoe routine!  In all the 16 years I've had
>Abigail, I can't count the number of times I have gone to put on shoes
>and found a cat toy shoved down in there.  

Of course, cats leave other things in shoes too. I remember one of my
precious cats once decided that she was going to be fastidious and
leave a hairball somewhere other than on the rug...

And I only discovered the location of the hairball when I put my
foot into one of my shoes the next morning...
Organization: Office of the President, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:08:03 -0400 
From: "Kathleen P. Kowalski" <kk00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Cat Aerobics
	<sallyg.60@oregon.uoregon.edu>

Well, she's done videos for just about every other segment of the
population.  I guess it was only a matter of time before Jane broke into
the kitty market. ;-)

Seriously, though...what are cat aerobics?

Kay
From: axvlj@acad2.alaska.edu (Valerie Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: pens and pencils (was: Re: cat toys ideas)
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:23:23 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Anchorage

In article <1992Jul24.011057.27020@chpc.utexas.edu>, jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
> In article <3518@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rm55+@pitt.edu
> (Rudolph T Maceyko) writes:
>  [ ...]
>>Milgen would be happy in a room full of tables and desks with hundreds of
>>pens and pencils on them, just waiting to be batted around the room.
> 
> Ah, another writing-implement-attacking cat!  Mortina II is very
> fond of absconding with the pen(s) and pencil(s) from my desk and
> batting them around for a while.  They invariably end up hidden
> inaccessably underneath/behind something immovable, at which point
> she looses interest.
> 
> I think she's getting a commision from the Bic company...
> 

I trade my kitties for the pen's and pencils.  I'll give them pieces
of rawhide (they're about pencil long pieces) and they forget about
my pen's and pencils for a short time.
Valerie
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From: yvonne@cats.ucsc.edu (Yvonne Nicole Throgmorton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help! Sick kitty!
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:54:16 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



My little sister called yesterday and her cat of about 7 years is very ill.
She lost about 4 pounds and started losing a lot of hair. The vet can't
figure out what is wrong with her.  He's calling her condition "pneumo
thorax" I believe, but admits this is inaccurate because it is a problem
with liquid, not air, in the thorax.  He says he hasn't seen this before
and I was wondering if anyone out there thinks this sounds familiar.
My family lives in a very rural and secluded area so I'm not surprised the
(only) vet is unfamiliar with the case.

He suggested putting the cat to sleep, but Zebra is such an integral part
of the family, my sister and mother are doing their best to avoid that.
The cat isn't doing well at all and in fact the vet has been unable to
take fluid from her because she struggles so much.  He can't put her
under anesthetics in her condition for fear she will die in her weakened
state.

Can anyone offer hope?

yvonne
.
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|Yvonne "I speak only for myself" Throgmorton    yvonne@cats.ucsc.edu     |
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|"No, no; that's like putting fried eggs in your armpit."                 |
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wlhadley@mwunix.mitre.org (William L. Hadley)
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:20:37 GMT

I found something called Kitty Fishin at a Cat lovers store.  My cat (Pepper)
*loves* it!  It comes with one of those rubber worm-like fishing lures.  You
can also get a set of extra Kitty Lures.  Pepper goes nuts with it, plus it is
fun to watch him chase the lure across the floor, furniture, whatever!  He
also like to play with the rubber lures on his own.  It's funny, he wants to
play with them, but he doesn't want to *touch* them!  I've never seen a cat
try to pick something up without touching it!  8-)

The store I got it from was Kitten Kaboodle (sp?).  There are two stores that 
I know of in Virginia - Sterling and Chantilly.  If you live in Northern 
Virginia, and you really love cats, I think you would like these stores (if 
you haven't already been there).  They also have a couple of resident cats at 
each one....
--
      William L. Hadley            |     User Support Center Specialist 
      The MITRE Corporation        |       Internet: wlhadley@mitre.org
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From: cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SCOOPABLE KITTY LITTER ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:57:06 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <GIBSON.92Jul27073134@dl5000.bc.edu>, gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene
Gibson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.205014.12498@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
jlc5f@poe.acc.Virgi
>nia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
>
>>   Even though the packaging on the scoopable litter
>>   says you can go a year without changing the whole
>>   box, I personally have to change it every month
>>   or the smell drives me crazy.  I still like it better
>>   than regular clay litter.  So do the cats.  Rascal 
>>   hovers beside me while I'm scooping, waiting to
>>   get first dibs on the "clean" spot!
>
(remainder deleted)

We have been using scoopable for about 6 months now and I have NEVER had to
change the litter at all.  I just scoop, and add more!  Twice so far I have
taken the litter out, washed the pan an put it back, but only to one of our two
pans.  We do have covered pans and we scoop every day.  Also with 3 cats our
boxes get a lot of use so there is a lot of turnover and lots of new litter
going in.

A.J. LoCicero >> cicero@hotcity.com

This message comes to you from beautiful Morgan Hill, California, U.S.A.:
The front line in the war against Suburbanization!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: khare@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Kathy Hare - DCS)
Subject: Re: Cat toys
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:11:53 GMT

Magee will play with just about anything but he loves it when my 
husband bottles wine. If he has a bad cork (split or broken in half) 
he will throw it to the cat. Well then the games begin until he bats it under   
the closet door, but that's ok he just opens the door and gets it back!!

Oh what "lovely" sounds kittys make at 4am!!

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally)
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:28:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.153341.23408@ultb.isc.rit.edu> rms8340@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>> He seems to have acquired the knack of taking his collar
>>off himself.  I've put it on about as tightly as comfort and health would
>>indicate, and still it comes off.  I've seen him working on it, and there
>>is nothing frantic about it.  Just him sitting there tugging on the tag and
>>buckle assembly with his front paw.  And trying to bite it as best he can.
>>. . .
 
>>| Daniel Briggs  (dbriggs@nrao.edu)

>But Daniel, why does your cat *HAVE TO* wear a collar? If he's an indoor
>cat, he doesn't really need one, and if he is an outdoor cat, one of these
>days he'll get his paw stuck in the collar and not be able to take it out
>until he comes home to you.  (This is not meant to be a nasty-note)

>       Bobbie, the perplexed

I have always been afraid to collar my cats for fear of strangling.  Now, 
for an outdoor cat, they make the breakaway kind.  If they get caught or 
hungup, the collar will come off.  I have used these on my outdoor cats 
for a long time and occasionally they come home without one.  Fortunately, 
they have not figured out how to take them off (or are they fooling me?).  
In the case of Daniel's cat these may not work.

Sal
From: kathy@ai.mit.edu (Kathleen LaFrance)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Kitty needs a home
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:00:53 GMT


Please don't reply to me I am posting it for a friend. But I find it 
inconceivable that people can be so irresponsible with their pets.

Kathy



                       ABANDONED KITTEN NEEDS HOME!




      There has been a kitten (approx. 6 months old) hanging around
      my apartment building the past couple of weeks.  People in
      my apartment building are not allowed to have pets.  After speaking
      with several people, however, I get the impression the 
      kitten belonged to someone in the area who moved and left it
      behind.


      The cat is very friendly and very pretty.  It's a tiger but
      has red instead of white on it.  Very cute face with pretty
      eyes.  Unfortunately, I don't know if it's male or female or
      whether it would need shots or something.  From what I see
      the kitten is clean (the fur isn't matted or has bald spots or
      anything like that).


      I'm looking for someone willing to take this kitten in and
      give it a home.  I hate to see animals suffer!  Please call
      me at (617) 253-2773 or send e-mail to: Jacqui@ai.mit.edu.



     Thanks,


Jacqui Taylor
From: fuhry@think.com (Debbie Fuhry)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: When is a stray really a stray?
Date: 31 Jul 1992 17:18:41 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: leander.think.com

A bit of background... We recently moved with our two cats from an
apartment to a house in a wonderful quiet (no through streets!)
neighborhood, and have been letting ours out during daylight hours.  In the
last few weeks, they (Patches especially) seem to have made a friend--a
very pretty white cat with spots of gray tabby on him/her. (I haven't
looked close enough to determine gender, yet.)

So, this cat is hanging around our house quite a bit, constantly chasing
and playing games with Patch.  What I want to know is: How can I tell if
this cat has a home or not?  It's very friendly to people (this morning it
got into our house and let me pick it up and carry it outside without any
struggle; The other day when I was pulling weeds in the yard it kept
playing with the weeds-and getting in the way!), its white is very clean
and well kept, and it's not overly skinny.  On the other hand, it doesn't
wear any kind of collar, and it *might* be a tiny bit thin.  

Does anyone have any ideas on how I can find out if this cat has a home?
I'd adopt it in a minute if it doesn't (What am I saying--I already have
two!!), since it's so sweet and friendly and has already made friends with
our two.  

Thanks for any suggestions!

Debbie Fuhry

Newsgroups: uw.forsale,rec.pets.cats,kw.forsale
From: jklancto@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Lanctot)
Subject: Re: Free Cat(s)!!!!!!
Keywords: Free, Cat
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: uw
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:23:07 GMT

In article <Bs7soI.JHM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> jmorton@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (John "Jokes" Morton) writes:
>Help, I have two adult cats that I can no longer keep.  Cats are not
>allowed in my new apartment.

It is AGAINST THE LAW for landlords to prevent you from bringing cats into your
apartment. Even if it states No Pets Allowed in your lease you can still bring
them into your apartment.

The only grounds for asking you to remove your cats is if it restricts
the enjoyment of other tenants. 

If you want more information about this or a photocopy of the amendment to
the Landlord Tenant Act the gives you this right, you can drop by the
Legal Resource Office, CC 206, University of Waterloo.

Kevin Lanctot
From: U38354@uicvm.uic.edu (Darlene Pietrzak, M/C 135)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Buddies
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:15:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1683014329.C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu>, C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu says:
>     Any one else ever experienced this buddy system?  Don't get me wrong,
>I love that the girls are so close, but this one threw me for a loop.
I don't think I would call my cats buddies at the time of the incident,
I had just adopted 2 strays from the local shelter, a mother and her 8 wk old
female kitten.  They had been in the house for only a few days and with my
Buddy, neutered 4 yr old male, for 2 days, they were quarrentined for the first
2 til my Vet gave them a good bill of health.

That Sunday night, Buddy had gotten on top of the dog bed in the living room,
we call it the wrestle mat.  He must have been feeling a little left out as the
mother cat kept hissing and swatting at him when he tried to get close to her
or the kitten.  Well we started to rough house on the dog bed and when Buddy
has had enough for the moment he lets out a yell like he is being killed and
then runs a few feet away and comes right back for more.  Well this time when
he let out that yell, I felt a burning pain on my leg and the mother cat was
on my shoulder ripping away at my arm.  Lucky I had on a heavy flannel night
shirt and all she did was snag it.  I had a heck of a time getting this cat
off of me and then we all looked at each other trying to figure out what
happened.  Willow, the mother cat, had an expression on her face as if to
say 'Excuse me, I don't know what came over me.  Sorry.'  Buddy was in shock
and I sat there trying to stop the bleeding on my leg from the scratch Willow
gave me when she jumped from the scratch post.

Luckily there has been no repeat of the incident and Willow will just come
running in when she hears that yell, but checks out the situation first
before reacting.

Darlene

And Buddy who is in love with my GSD/Dobe spayed female,
Jasmine, the kitten, who is in love with my male nuetuered 7 pound toy poodle
and Willow who is out of luck.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: Re: What IS it with POUNCE...?
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:13:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.154219.1391@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
>In article <25482@life.ai.mit.edu>

>to his food.  Can anyone suggest a particularly tempting treat that I may
>have missed?  I feel almost delinquent as a cat owner in not spoiling him
>with treats more. 
>
try opening a can of albacore tuna, human variety.  if this does not evoke
something VERY primal in your beast, give up.  my crew gets rather frantic,
especially meggie (the bitch kitty/kitty from hell).

have you tried bacon, liver or steak?  mouse (r.i.p.) absolutely lost it 
with those items.

my current crew of beastlets does not get anything along those lines now as
i am a vegan and no animal products are in my house.  i do buy them the
occasional can of dolphin safe albacore for things like birthdays, xmas, etc.

kg

Newsgroups: uw.forsale,rec.pets.cats,kw.forsale
From: jmorton@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (John "Jokes" Morton)
Subject: Re: Free Cat(s)!!!!!!
Keywords: Free, Cat
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: uw
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:28:08 GMT

In article <Bs7v6K.BFK@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, jklancto@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Lanctot) writes:
> In article <Bs7soI.JHM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> jmorton@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (John "Jokes" Morton) writes:
> >Help, I have two adult cats that I can no longer keep.  Cats are not
> >allowed in my new apartment.
> 
> It is AGAINST THE LAW for landlords to prevent you from bringing cats into your
> apartment. Even if it states No Pets Allowed in your lease you can still bring
> them into your apartment.
> 
> The only grounds for asking you to remove your cats is if it restricts
> the enjoyment of other tenants. 
> 

I had heard that it is against the law but it won't save my feline friends.
One of my 'apartment-mates' is alergic to cats so it would restric his
enjoyment. :-(

Thanks for trying to help,

                           John.
 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: I hope no one else has done this!
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:53:58 GMT

Well, nothing exactly like this.  But we have a mousie toy tied by its
tail to a string.  Sometimes, when we are playing with it, Elvis will
grab the mouse and bite and kick it while rolling over, which wraps
the string around him.  This leads to hilarious mayhem:

Elvis finishes "shredding" the mouse and lies there.  I tug on the string,
which moves the mouse around in his paws, so this of course triggers 
another attack.  I let go of the string, and Elvis gets up...but there's
this *mouse* hanging on him, better attack it some more!  Sometimes
(often) he attacks the hanging edge of the string, too.  I laugh and
laugh.  What a silly cat!  (I never let him do this unsupervised, of
course!)
-- 
/\        Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they 
  \_][    ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong.  Things are usually as they
      \_______________________| seem.  Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
From: lobby3@eb3lobby.EBay.Sun.COM (Louis Brown lobby)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 18:42:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 4055@news.cs.indiana.edu, "angela allen" <angie@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> () writes:
> ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao) writes:
> 
> >Any other ideas for self-propelled cat toys?  
> 
My kitty Deacon LOVES the cat dancer. He plays with it literally plays with
it for hours adn after he's done with that, he goes searching for plastic
bags and even gets a kick out of the puppy's bone!  He's a riot.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Subject: Re: Followup on "landlord won't let me keep a pet" posting
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:03:34 GMT

iadt3mk@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Kustermann) writes:

>In article <1992Jul20.212927.10467@athena.mit.edu>, isako@mtl.mit.edu (Isako Hoshino) writes:

>So I guess it is true that not every landlord is such a stick in
>the mud and it does depend on the applicant/tenant.  After all, they are
>still people and if they like cats than that is a point in their
>favour.

I am just now reading this thread, forgive me if this has been hashed out...

The people who *really* tick me off are not the landlords who have an absolutely
no-pets policy, but the people who own pets and allow jerky behaviour to 
contiunue.

It's this kind of thing that makes landlords make such a policy.

The last building I lived in was owned by a wonderful man who allowed cats.
When I moved to a second apartment in the same building, the woman who moved
in to my apartment had two of the most screwed-up cats in the world.  They 
peed all over everything, and John had to replace the carpets and part of
the bathroom floor WHILE SHE STILL LIVED THERE!

The place reeked of pee and the carpets (when they were replaced) were torn
in spots where the cat had ripped them.

<conjecture on>
I suspect the reason she put up with this behaviour is that she didn't want
to pay for the vet. Or pay attention to how she was treating them.
<conjecture off>

I ached for John and how much his kindness had cost him and I completely 
understand why landlords say "no pets".

When my 7-year old started to spray, you can bet that we went to a vet then
a behaviourist to try to find the root of the problem. I had to make some 
sacrifices to pay the bills, but it was certainly better than letting him
destroy an apartment which would, in turn, make it that much harder for 
*responsible* cat owners in the world.

Turns out (we moved a couple of months later) that his behaviour was probably
related to those two jerkey cats.  One was so irritable that he chased my
boy around the yard and beat the socks off of him a couple of times.  Once we
moved, *presto* no more spraying and no more valium (for my boy, dummy!).

I steadfastly believe that behaviours like clawing and peeing and spraying can
AND MUST be controlled.  It's often related to some stress in the cat's life or
some frustration (causing stress) which should be resolved anyway.  When my
boy sprayed, he made *sure* I saw him do it. As cat owners, we're, in a sense,
ambassadors for other cat owners (whether we rent or own), and responsible
care includes curbing behaviours that damage property as well as the usual
spaying, neutering and vaccinations.

Now that I have got that off my chest, it's back to work. I feel much better!

Lauren
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: joannee@sco.COM (Joanne Eglash)
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Reply-To: joannee@fscott.UUCP (Joanne Eglash)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:53:58 GMT


My cat absolutely goes ga-ga for any place with water.
She has a very nice water dish, but lead a cat to water, and you
can make her drink as long as it's dripping!  Last night was
the ultimate in funny cat pictures. I was in the bathtub, in
bubbles up to my neck, soaking blissfully. Suddenly I heard a
creeeaaaakkkkk, and the bathroom door slowly opened. I was
terrified -- until I saw a little pointed face peering 'round
the side. She suddenly came running into the bathroom, hopped
onto the side of the tub, and stared at me for one second -- then
flung herself onto the bubbles!!!  ****wild cat shriek*****

One scratched cat owner's stomach, one bubble-bathed cat (I
had to rinse her and then dry her off, to get rid of the bubble
smell!).