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From: joew@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Wagner)
Subject: Re: Information Please!!
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:40:23 GMT

Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele) writes:

>  M1> Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele)
>  M1> writes:

>  > evenings. I've been meaning to get back to the National Geographic
>   > 
>  M1> Do you mean the Natural History Museum?  I was there about a month
> 
>National Geographic has a building, I believe called "Explorer's Hall," a couple
>blocks north of the Natural-History-end of the mall (the location is rather
>vague in my memory).  It's been a few years since I visited, but it was fun.

I was there this past weekend and once again it was fairly interesting.  They
are currently having a photo exhibit of A) award winning photos and B) some show
on military cemetaries/monuments.  I apologize that I just walked around and
looked at the photos, so I don't recall specifically why they were there but 
there were a lot of humorus and moving pics of events and people around DC.

They also have a hand's-on half of the lobby which has various interactive touch
screen monitors such as a excellent animation of contenental drift (the 
contenant Pangea(?), etc) with smooth movements of the contenents according to
how you drag your finger upa dn down the time line.  They had a Tornado 
booth which you could reach your hand into to disrupt a mist defined vortex.

The gift shop has all the neat junk you'd expect, in the way of books, posters
and maps, including a new modern world map with all those pesky Soviet and
Yugoslavian countries.

                                                                   Joe

--
Joe Wagner   (202) 366-4729                    (Alternate: joew@ncar.ucar.edu)
c/o DOT/NHTSA, NRD-11                          "Buckle up or you Die -- opps
400 7th St. SW,  Wash. DC  20590                I mean: Buckle up for Safety"

-- 
Joe Wagner   (202) 366-4729                    (Alternate: joew@ncar.ucar.edu)
c/o DOT/NHTSA, NRD-11                          "Buckle up or you Die -- opps
400 7th St. SW,  Wash. DC  20590                I mean: Buckle up for Safety" 
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: terri@xrxedds.UUCP (Terri R. Chawla)
Subject: Free indoor cats to a good home
Organization: Xerox EDDS, Herndon, Va.
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:11:05 GMT



	Due to allergy problems, we have 2 indoor house cats that need to
	find new homes.

	Frisky:
	He's 3 yrs old, neutered and has claws. He is 100% black and
	weighs approx 10 lbs. He's a very gentle lovable indoor cat. He's
	shy with strangers, but loves lots of people attention.

	TC:
	He's 6 yrs old, neutered and has no claws. He has a white belly
	with orange tortoiseshell coloring on his back. He weighs approx
	12 lbs. He would like to be an outdoor cat (he thinks) and is
	very independent.

	Both cats think they are people and should be allowed to sleep
	on beds. My husband and I are the first "parents" of the cats,
	but feel they will adjust well to other home environments.

	Please contact me via email or leave a message at (703) 729-4547
	if you are interested.
 
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:42:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.141924.10468@access.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (that's me) writes:
>In article <1992Jul16.173708.14300@srg.srg.af.mil> dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) writes:
>..
>><sarcasm mode off>
>>
..
>>the limit goes up?  Or is that a safe speed now, too?

>
>Mandatory compliance is much higher wre speed limits

Whoops. I meant of course, voluntary compliance.

-- Jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@digex.com
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Northern VA Mixed League Looking for Bowlers ...
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:19:08 GMT
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division


The NFL Mixed League is in search of teams and individual bowlers in hopes of
expanding the size of the league.
 
If the league can maintain TWENTY (20) TEAMS through the Winter 1992-93 season,
the overall league prize fund available would be $15,000.00.
 
The NFL Mixed League bowls on Monday evenings at 9:00pm, at Fair Lanes,
Centreville, VA.  The Monday Night Football games can be seen while you bowl.
The first night of the league is Monday, 31 August 1992.
 
Average is NOT IMPORTANT in this league, as it is a HANDICAPPED league.  Teams
are comprised of five persons, although only a 4:1 ratio is needed to be
eligible to bowl.
 
The NFL Mixed league is a FUN league, where everyone enjoys bowling regardless
of the skill level.  This is a great opportunity to meet new people, have fun,
and improve your bowling skills.
 
For more information or to join the league, contact either myself (the League
Secretary, e-mail address and phone number at the end of this post), or Fair
Lanes in Centrevile, VA, at 703-830-3700.
 
Hope to see you out there.


Bob

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Software Engineer,                 | Summer Leagues 1992 -
   GTE Federal Systems Division    |    Monday Mixers: Mon 18:30
   Chantilly, VA   (703)-818-4656  |    Coca-Cola Classics: Wed 18:45
                                   |    Random Handicap: Wed 21:15
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   7th Communications Group,       | Winter League Secretary 1992-1993 -
   Pentagon   (703)-614-8086       |    GTE FSD Mixed: Thu 17:45
                                   |    NFL Mixed: Mon 21:00

Hail to the Redskins:   World Champions, Super Bowl 26
Orioles Baseball '92:   How 'Bout Them Birds !!
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:45:25 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <22611@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) writes:
> Why do I keep seeing this statement when the "standard" speed limit
> of 55 mph for highway driving was set years before the "energy" crisis
> when gas was CHEAP!!! Ask anyone driving back in the 1950's and '60s..
> 65 mph came in when the "super highways" (interstate) started being
> completed. With the number of cars today, even the interstates are
> hard to drive at 70 mph except in very rural areas.

I'm not sure that 55 mph was ever a 'standard' speed limit prior to the 
early '70s. In fact, as I recall :^)  there was no standard, except for
maybe 70 mph as an upper limit (at least in Virginia).

Prior to the energy crisis,  speed limits seemed to bear no relationship
to the quality of the road.  For example, in this area, Route 7 west of
the Reston exit was posted at 70 mph.  I've seen complaints in this group
that the current 55 mph is too fast for this road.    Since the advent
of the V8 engine in the less populated '50s,  many non-interstate rural
routes had 70 mph speed limits, and considering the steering, braking,
and tire technology available back then one wonders how they could
justify such speed. 

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541                           |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: ROOMMATE WANTED-ROCKVILLE
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:15:11 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology


Roommate wanted to share a 2BR 2BA condominium in Rockville.

2 minute walk to Rockville Metro, 5 minute drive to I270.

Shopping is walking distance.

Available from 3rd week in August 'til end of December.

$350/month includes utilities.

Call Ron @ (301) 762-0726 (H)
	   (301) 975-3389 (W)
or email: hira@cme.nist.gov
From: miyaji@astro.umd.edu (Takamitsu Miyaji)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Room for Rent
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:19:44 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy


 A room in a house in Adelphi available immediately !
 
 $220/mo+1/4utilities 1 mo security deposit

 Quiet atmosphere, nice neighborhood with 2 cats and a lot of plants.

 Close to U. Md. College Park Campus (15 min walk, 5 min bike ride)

 Call 301-422-8010, ask for Tak, Arden, or Rob.

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: Speeding & Radar Locking ...
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.121056.8470@alw.nih.gov> seidl@midway.dcrt.nih.gov (Edward Seidl) writes:
...
>And for those who are claiming better gas mileage when traveling 65-70, here's
>some counter anecdotal evidence...I used to think the same way, until on
>one trip from Ga to Philadelphia, for reasons I don't remember my average speed
>was limitted to just over 55, rather than my customary 65. Lo and behold,
>my mileage went from ~50mpg to nearly 60 mpg (I have a CRX HF, so yes, I do
>get that kind of mileage).  I think the reason people claim better gas mileage
>at higher speeds is that they are travelling at one speed for a long time;
>no starting and stopping.  I'm no auto engineer, but common sense would seem
>to dictate that if at 65 mph my engine is doing 2000 rpm, and at 55 my engine
>is doing 1500 rpm (which are very nearly the values for my car), I'm going to
>burn less fuel at the lower speed.  My trusty hp 15c tells me that a 300 mile
>trip at 55 will take 5.45 hours, or 490,500 revolutions 
>(5.45 h=327 min x 1500rpm = 490,500 r).  The same trip at 65 will take 4.62 
>hours, or 554,000 revolutions.  Even though the trip is much shorter time wise,

There are more factors involved... I'm actually surprised that if those are
your actual RPMs at those speeds that you don't get better mileage at 65.
At 1500 RPM in 5th gear at 55 MPH your car should be working pretty damn
hard to go 55 mph since you get so little torque at that engine rotation
speed, and you have a great deal of wind resistance to counter.  But the
torque produced at 2000 rpm is probably much more in comparison to the
extra wind resistance. Maybe not, you'd have to do some kind of complex
analysis to prove anything quantitatively.  My only point is that 1500 RPM
is barely above what my car idles at, and lower RPM on the highway does
not necessarily mean better gas mileage once you consider power output.
Another interesting fact: the Corvette ZR-1 has 6 gears, but its top
speed is in 5th gear.  The engine doesn't have enough power to drive in
6the gear faster than 130 or so... too much wind resistance.  The car
is geared to go something like 240 mph if it could actually push past
the wind resistance in 6th gear.  As it is it can only go a paltry 180 mph.

I see that this has digressed subsantially from anything DC- related so I'll
try to control myself on this thread in the future :-)

-- Jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@digex.com
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jclander@mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Subject: Looking for a synagogue 
Reply-To: jclander@mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:17:34 GMT

I moved down here in June from the Boston area, and I'm looking for a Conservative
(in the sense of affiliated with the Conservative movement)
synagogue to join in Northern Virginia or nearby.  (I live close to Tyson's
Corner.)

The synagogue I belonged to in Boston was unusual: not too large (200?), an old
building, and an old congregation. The average age was well over 70.  It is in 
Revere, which was where immigrants and their children settled.  My grandparents
moved there in 1932, and lived there ever since. I wouldn't mind something like
that here, but I suspect that it doesn't exist.

I'm single and in my mid-30's.  I'm looking for a traditional service, mostly
in Hebrew.  I vaguely prefer that women be treated as equal to men, but I
like traditional wording in prayers.  I don't care about social activities; I
would avoid "singles" events like the plague.

If you can offer me advice on the local synagogues, I'd be delighted to hear
from you.  I will be visiting services over the next month or so, probably on 
Friday nights.

It is probably best to respond by email; I don't think there's a big readership
for this topic.  If anyone wants a summary of responses, I'll send it out.  (If
more than 10 request it, I'll post.)

Thanks.

Julian C. Lander
The MITRE Corporation
jclander@mitre.org

(Please insert standard disclaimer here.  I don't think MITRE has strong feelings
about synagogues.)
From: anneb@tecsun1.etl.army.mil (Anne Brink)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: What was the commotion on Kenilworth Friday?
Date: 20 Jul 92 13:05:26 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Topographic Engineering Center, Ft. Belvoir, VA.

gottlieb@umbc4.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb) writes:
s
>	Hmm, I'll assume you mean 395 to BW Parkway, considering 295
>	is the BW Parkway. :)  That's ok, I won't flame ya for it. :)
>	(I'm too nice sometimes.) :)

Good thing.  The original poster said I-295.  The BW Parkway is _Maryland_ 295.
The small section of Interstate that runs from the WW Bridge, past NRL, and 
Bolling is I-295.  It ceases to be interstate somewhere around the Sousa 
bridge, but I've seen signs that say DC 295 between I-295 and the B/W Parkway 
(er, 'scuse me, "Gladys Noon Spellman memorial parkway.").  I had heard that DC
decided to call that stretch DC-295 to reduce confusion, but I've never 
actually heard anyone refer to it as such.


>-- 
>Robert Gottlieb
>gottlieb@umbc4.umbc.edu
>"Not gonna do it.. wouldn't be prudent..."
>Not umbc's opinion.  


						-Anne
						anneb@tec.army.mil
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Car rental without a credit card?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 20:38:49 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: dc

In article <14648@umd5.umd.edu> amunn@linus.umd.edu (Alan Munn) writes:
>Are there any local car rental companies which will rent cars with a
>cash deposit with no credit card?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Try rention one if your under 21, for a real
kick.




-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:19:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.150734.26645@srg.srg.af.mil> dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) writes:
>As for the other part, you admit that the accident rate will increase with
>the speed limit.  This is disputed by others who take your position.  I
>feel that it would, and combined with higher impact speeds, a 10 mile per
>hour increase (or any other, for that matter) is not worth the cost in lives.
>Simple argument, no?

Simple, but it has no basis. Why did you draw the line at 55. At what point
do these higher death rates become 'unacceptable' to you.  I contend that
the slightly higher accident rates on some highways due to 65 as opposed
to 55 is acceptable.  You obviously think that the higher accident rates
of 55 due to 45 is acceptable, since you don't favor lowering to 45.

Ninety percent of all accidents happen within 5 miles of home.

-- Jamie
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@digex.com
From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.general, jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul16.173708.14300@srg.srg.af.mil> dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes
> x4552) writes:
..etc..
>The accident rate will increase with the speed limit. Starting at 0 mph.
>Should we lower the highway limit to 10? You would probably eliminate
>highway traffic deaths.  You would also eliminate productivity.  There
>are tradeoffs in every situation.  55 is extremely arbitrary and was
>created to save fuel, not lives.

Why do I keep seeing this statement when the "standard" speed limit
of 55 mph for highway driving was set years before the "energy" crisis
when gas was CHEAP!!! Ask anyone driving back in the 1950's and '60s..
65 mph came in when the "super highways" (interstate) started being
completed. With the number of cars today, even the interstates are
hard to drive at 70 mph except in very rural areas.

Although most people may feel comfortable driving at higher speeds around
70 or 80, the majority of us do not have the reaction times necessary for
the crowded conditions on our highways.. Look at the beltway during rush
hour, 6:30 to 8 or 3 to 5:30pm; even when most traffic is going along at
60 or so, there are always cars trying to go just 5 mph more to pass one
or two more cards before exiting or pulling in front of you..

I've also seen postings about the traffic should all move at the same
speed; which most feel is the maximum.. However, remember, that you
can't exit, merge or pass if we all drive at the same speed... Some don't
have the same reaction times and don't make decisions as quick.

I would agree with most postings regarding higher speeds if the issuing
of driving licenses were more difficult so that poor drivers were weeded
out; this appears unlikely as the automobile has become almost essential
to most of us living in the U.S.
From: walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Signals?! We don't need no steeinking..(Was: Re: Speeding & Radar Locking ...)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:41:41 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Punkadyne Industries(tm)



While we're on the subject of turn signals, I would like to complain about
VA motorist's impression of Pedestrians.
 
We exist. Really! There ARE people who, now prepare yourself, DON'T USE A
CAR ALL THE TIME. "*Gasp*!" you say. "Could the VA driving manual have been
incorrect?"

Contrary to popular belief, yes, Virgina, there are pedestrians. Even your
driver's manual mentions it (once, the first paragraph in the manual actually
said "Pedestrians are a nuscence.") and has almost two paragraphs dedicated
to the subject.
 
Now I know most Virginians never read the manual, but took the self-test in
the back, and copied off the guy who owned a Volvo in front of you and the
DMV, so I will alert you to how to stop those annoying dents in your front
bumpers.
 
1: Use turn signals. There is this rod on your steering column that operates
   them. Yes, the one without the fingerprints. When you want to turn right
   at an intersection, signal right. If you want to turn left, signal left.
2: Look out for people on the sidewalk (a long, concrete path of squares that
   run along roadsides that you are not allowed to park on). Sometimes, they
   have to get off of one sidewalk, cross your street, and get to another
   sidewalk. They look like you or me, except they have no car.
3: Some intersections still have patterns on stripes across your street. These
   ancient pathways were called "crosswalks." Many of them have eroded away
   with time, but pedestrians still use these ancient paths. Technically,
   if you hit a pedestrian on one, you could get a ticket, or maybe even
   have to appear in court to pay a fine! I know it seems unfair, but some-
   times we have to make these sacrifices to the community as a whole.
4: Those lights that have a symbol of a hand or a symbol of a man walking
   are not a religious idol, but for pedestrians to see when it is technically
   safe to cross. Please be wary if you see one of these at an intersection.


I add this, because at the corner of Weihle and N. Shore Drive, there is
a stoplight intersection that a lot of people cross. About 1 in 3 use
turn signals, so you don,t know if they are going straight, going to turn,
or make up their mind suddenly in the middle on the intersection. There are
two low-income housing areas and one elderly high-rise. A LOT of people
walk to get to the shopping center there.
 
Reston: The Planned community that went all wrong...
 

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! Oh no! In printing my mindless drivel, I have costed the Net hundreds, if !
! not thousands, of dollars! Mea culpa!     - walrus@bessel.umd.edu -       !
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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:35:04 GMT
	<14665@umd5.umd.edu>
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.



In article <14665@umd5.umd.edu> bchin@terminus.umd.edu (Bill Chin) writes:

    Bill> Mass does not necessarily correspond to structural
    Bill> integrity.  Properly designed crumple zones and passenger
    Bill> cage is what one should be looking for.  That's why Formula
    Bill> one racing cars, weighing less than 2000 pounds can slam
    Bill> into walls at around 200mph with many of the drivers able to
    Bill> survive and possibly race in a few days.

On this note, I remember seeing a television program way back in the
mid-70's about an experimental car which was made mostly of plastic,
and was designed from the ground up to be safer, encorporating many of
the technologies from professional racecars.  Crumple zones, 4-point
seat belts, roll-bars, etc.  They showed films of these cars during
high speed rollovers, wall-crashes etc (some tests with real people in
them!)  They claimed that the car was orders of magnitude safer than
stock autos, and that it in fact got excellent gas mileage too.
Naturally, the experimentals were very expensive, but they predicted
that mass manufacturing could bring the costs within reason.

I don't remember who made the car (I only remember that they were
white inside and out, and even looked like cars of that era) or much
other details.  I also never heard anything about them again (can you
say big-3 conspiracy? :-) Anybody know more about these things?

    Bill> The car should look like the front and/or back completely
    Bill> caved in, but the passenger cage untouched (look at the
    Bill> Volvo commercials). It's all up to the designers of the car
    Bill> and how much they are willing to spend on researching this
    Bill> and building it.

And how much you (or your insurance co) are willing to repair a car
once its been damaged. If your auto acted like a racecar, many more
accidents would probably total the vehicle.  Granted, there's probably
some middle ground (perhaps like Volvo?).
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: More Nike/Hercules Site info
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:59:29 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA

In article <1992Jul21.010942.25057@access.digex.com> og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg) writes:
>
>What was the final list of Nike/Hercules sites again? I know there was one
>in Gaithersburg near the airpark, what were the others? - Gary
>
I've noticed on my ADC map of Northern VA (page 2) a park called
Great Falls Nike Park, at the intersection of Route 7 and Utterback
Store Rd, just north of Reston. So I checked some old topos (~1967) 
of the same area and the map says US Military Reservation. The next 
time I pass by, I'll check it out.

Steve