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From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Thanks!
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 08:47:41 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hi Dick:
 
Thanks for the terrific information. We're trying to put some stuff 
together for keyboarding instruction next year.
 
Your details will come in handy when we start to make some decisions.
 
Peace,
--Phil



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: Educational finance
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:24:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

you miss an essential item there... what control would the billionaries 
have over the operations of this enterprise and what reward do they 
get for allowing this to happen?
 
Billionaires are not known for their abandonment of control over their 
resources or lack of capabilitiy either politically or legally or 
financially to protect their capacity....
 
I can tell you for a fact that many people i know (not biullionaires) 
for far lesser sums would consider investing their money beyond reach 
of US taxes or regulations if it looked as if they were going to be 
forced to lose control over it here... all that would result is the 
decapitalization of America....
 
Thoughts folks?
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: hellrieg@sendit.NoDak.edu (Ron G. Hellriegel)
Subject: phonenumbers wanted
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:10:57 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Hi dudes around Massachuses!

Who would be so kind and look for the phonenumber of the
LDI-PNEUTRONICS CORPORATION?
The operator in North Dakota couldn't help me, so I wish you could 
help me.
By the way this corporation is in EAST PEPPERELL, MA 01437, 2 Lomar Place.

You'd really do a favor to me!

Thanks
Ron

hellrieg@NoDak.sendit.edu
From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: finance and economics 2/
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 01:02:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

>>> Continued from previous message
CH=8>Also in the areas of futures trading, how should a mutual
CH=8>guarnateed fund be set up? How can a layer of insurance
CH=8>funding be set up at the peak of the triangular pool of
CH=8>margin funds to guarantee the integrity of the market? The
CH=8>bottom and boradest layer of the triangular funding, of
CH=8>course, is the customers margin; then the next layer is the
CH=8>intra-day margin call, then another layer of bank guarantee
CH=8>or insurance? Where would one find such international
CH=8>insurance vendor?

Who would join this mutual fund? Are you talking about a protectionfund
for investors here as you were above? What would the fund be protecting
against exactly?
I should think that such an international insurance vendor would be
found in the US or Germany or Japan.

More generally can you tell me what system of law you have there in
Taiwan? Also can you tell me the major pieces of financial consumer
protection legislation you have over there?

Also, do you have any relatives or friends that have emigrated here to
NZ in recent years? I could possibly give them a call, or a letter or
something. If they have kids over here in Auckland it could well be that
my mother has met them. She is a teacher of English at one of the
schools in those suburbs intio which there has been a large influx of
Taiwanese and HongKong immigrants in the past couple of years.
Do you knowany of the economists at Auckland University?


Anyway, it has been nice chatting to you.

I'll be seein' ya,   Andrew.
___
 * SLMR 2.0 * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!


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From: Pat.Nolan@f518.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (Pat Nolan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Reply on Keyboarding
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 13:49:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2613/518 - Bloomfield High Sch, Bloomfield NY

Hello! I am currently a secondary Business Education Teacher at Bloomfield
Jr./Sr. High School in Bloomfield, NY.  I currently teach Keyboarding/Business Communications to 9th thru 12th graders.  The course allows for 20 weeks
of keyboarding instruction for about 35 minutes a day. Our students end up
with a skill level of 30-35 words per minute.

Could you tell me who teaches your 6th graders keyboarding in your district?
Is your keyboarding course mandated locally or state wide or neither?
What text do you use at the High School level?
Do you offer Keyboarding at the High School level? 

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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Tax Returns
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 21:43:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > POIRS says 3 years, but they can nail you back to 7 years!

Thank you.  I go on the assumption I need to hold returns for at least 7
 years.

Lowell 

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From: lbrown@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Lawrence M. Brown Jr (Larry))
Subject: teacher income
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 01:12:51 GMT



---
q
This is a call for IDEAS regarding how teachers might acquire a
larger piece of the pie. Given the present "system," what might
a teacher be able to do the command more money for services
rendered.  For example, a teacher or group of teachers might
publish the textbooks used in schools and thereby receive a
"second" income.  Or a teachers might set up an insurance group
and sell themselves insuranc.  What are some other ideas.  I'm
serching for ideas for a paper.
From: Cy.Huang@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Cy Huang)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Word processing
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 10:32:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

David:

What you said may be true in a 100% English environment. Here in Taiwan, because of the often need to switch back and forth between Chinese and English, the most practical and popular software remains the old fashioned PE2 or PE3.

Paul
idpt199@tpts1.seed.net.tw



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From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Thanks
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 09:44:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hi Jeff:
 
Thanks for the response. Works is a real populare application around 
here too.  Do you know what the elementary teachers in your area do 
for keyboarding instruction? Do they go to a lab or are there computers 
for instruction in the classrooms?
 
Thanks again
 
--Phil



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: entrepreneurship
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:18:59 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Contact your local Small Business Administration ....
 
If you have no luck with them.. Contact the SBA in Seattle Washington...
Theya re VERY helpful folks ... ask to talk to a SCORE representative 
with bookstore experience...
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 5.1 Written Tests
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:08:19 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

I see everyone here talking about WordPerfect software as their choice 
for teaching Word Processing.
 
I think that you need to evaluate what it is that you are training 
your students to become.
 
WP is prevelant in LOW-TECH firms, legal firms, and those firms that 
generally have NO MIS or Computer expertise.
 
Where these is good expertise the choice is almost always MS Word 
for Windows or one of Several UNIX  WP ..usually Frame or FrameMaker.
 
Word Perfect is generally considered an artifact from the past ...
althought their newest Windows version has at last caught up with 
MS Word for Windows in most respects, why go to a second source... 
just stay with MS products is the general concensus in most TECH 
Competent MIS groups...
 
I suggest, respectfully, that we ought to be training students in 
Frame or FrameMaker (the more versitile version of Frame) under UNIX 
and also train them under MS Word for Windows under DOS....
 
Go with the winners for the future... not with the artifacts from 
the past.
 
David Rahfeldt Ph.D.  (professional IT consultant)
 
 
PS >>> MOST of the larger companies are generally in agreement with 
this statement I have made and are SLOWLY fighting their way clear 
of WordPerfect (the old biz folks and secretarial staff cling to 
WordPerfect like it is a holy icon!)
 
how about for a refreashing change.. we all try to teach students 
what skills they will need in the future, rather than what they needed 
back when we went to school?
 
David Rahfeldt
 
TAGLINE >>> Solely responsible for all above verbose vernacular spilled 
onto your eyes! If you have a complaint > Blame YOUR eyes for looking!
 
(smile)



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From: Jesse.Dietschler@f509.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (Jesse Dietschler)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Fidonet
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:07:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2613/509 - LOGIC Systems, Rochester NY

I was wondering if you could help me, i am trying to use the fidonet system with my teacher at my school.  I would like to know if you carry this system and how to use it.  We are trying to contact foreign exchange students in other European countries.  Any help locating or sending fidonet mail would be
appreciated..


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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: news on stocks , money
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:21:55 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

I know that they are available from CompuServe... but that is 
expensive...
 
Wall Data also can provide you with the stock data...
 
Mutual Funds and Bonds etc. can be done Frank Russel company in Tacoma 
Washington...
 
ALL cost Money $$$$$$$
 
 
If anyone knows of FREE sources for stock data... espe4cially real 
time... or near real time... PLEASE send me email!!!
 
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Magnet Schools
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:24 MST
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apsicc.aps.edu
Keywords: MAGNET Schools
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


Hello all,
  I am attempting to obtain as much information or opinions as possible
regarding peoples thoughts on the value of MAGNET schools. Schools that
offer either highly specialized courses or courses which are for one
reason or another, such as limited enrollment at a single school but
high enrollment at a centralized district site, valuable in that context
for providing and filling an overall need within a school district.
  I have run a random in district survey of opinions and I would like
to contrast that with opinions of educators around the country. This
particular MAGNET school services the needs of eleven high schools and
provides courses for not only college bound students but also vocational
and technical training courses. As examples, everything from computer
related courses (data-entry training through business to advanced place-
ment), building trades (general construction through cabinet making),
word-processing (court reporting through advanced word-processing tech-
niques), advanced classical and modern languages (Latin to Hebrew to
Japanese to Spanish to Russian, etc.),  pre-med, A.P. calculus/fortran,
A.P. physics, A.P. chemistry, aviation science, astronomy, an LPN course
which has a high school student qualified for their Licensed Practical
Nursing Certificate upon H.S. graduation, nursing assistant and homebound
aide program, etc.
  This is an important topic for us as we would like to make the program
even better and we need input from all sources to do so. 
  Unfortunately we need to present this Friday; January 15 so any opinions
you could send my way would be appreciated and forwarded on to the appro-
priate people as soon as they are received. If you could EMail to me at
me address below it would help to save a great deal of time but I will
also followup on the conferences.
			Thank you very much for your help in advance,
							Jim Skeba
======================================================================
   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
======================================================================
From: Steve.Martindale@puddle.fidonet.org (Steve Martindale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Stock purchasing novice
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 03:58:11 PDT
Organization: Pacific Systems Group

I wouldn't invest in one particular company.  Rather take the money you were thinking of investing and spread it over different types of stocks.  Pick a few that are solid and then others that can go up or down regularly and perhaps one just because it intrests you (somethin that you can follow,  if you like a particular companies computer invest in that - then watch what happens to the stock when they introduce a new product on the market.  

When you are selling your stock always remeber that your stock broker is going to take a fee (or percentage) off of it for himself.  This also happens when you buy something so if a stock goes up and you sell, not always will you make money.  You might even lose money on the ttransaction.  That is somehting to talk about with your broker.  You can also shop around for the lowest price but also remeber that each one may provide a little extra service.  (LIKE phoning you when your stock is at a high.)

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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Re: Overseas contacts
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:30:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

You got throught to Portland Oregon...
 
what would you  like to know about american business education?
 
I and friends have taught Operations research at universities here... 
and so know several universities programs...
 
Ask freely what you want to know...
 
PLEASE try to be specific if possible...
 
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: arowe@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (B. Anne Rowe)
Subject: Response to WP 5.1 Tests
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 18:10:28 GMT

I was interested in your information on word processing
software.  If your information is based on a survey, please
send the me data.  I would like to know what businesses
responded, how many were contacted, how many different types
were contacted, and the percentage of responses.  Thank you.

Anne Rowe
VA Dept. of Education
P O Box 2120 
Richmond VA 23216-2120
From: Ron.Decanio@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Decanio)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Computer Education
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 11:57:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

Dear all,
 
 
We would like to learn some information about Computer Related topics from someone.  We are three juniors at Sarasota High School.  We are working on a  telecommunications project for class.  We would like to here a reply A.S.A.P.  or we will fail and our lives will be a living hell. 


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From: Art.Brown@p0.f725.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Art Brown)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Volume Control
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 01:40:57 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/725.0 - School Forum, Norton MA

   This may sound unusual, but does anyone have a fix for a PC that 
does NOT come equipped with a volume control? Sound Blaster does not disable the PC speaker. I called Creative Labs and they informed me that there is a way to connect a couple of wires from the motherboard to the Sound Blaster card but not really recommended, plus the fact that the computer is under warranty. I am a late night user and would appreciate any suggestions. I purchased the Sound Blaster specifically for that reason, but to no avail. The computer was purchased unbeknown that there was no volume
 control.
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From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Keyboarding Software
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 08:50:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hi Ron:
 
Thanks for the details on keyboarding software.  Could you tell me 
a little more about the software?
 
How do you teach with the computer?  Do your kids have access to 
keyboarding instruction more than once a week?
 

Peace,
--Phil



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMM PORTS
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:36:53 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

fi you are using a microsoft mouse and driver all you need to do is 
to plug it in to the other port and reboot the machine...
 
DONE...
 
 
if you want to use ports 3 or 4 then you may have a different kettle 
of fish and have to read the book... i think the command is
 
mouse /Y
 
 
but you had best chack the manual
 
 
.....
 
 
also be aware thay your ports MUST be configured to the standard interupt 
/ address combinations if the mouse is to be happy... or youreally 

have work to do...
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Computer illiteracy
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:10:22 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: world
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Why do people come out of grade 12 computer illiterate? For that matter,
people coming out of grade 12 seem to know little in any field. Students
are presented too small a piece of present knowledge to give them an
appreciation of what they are doing in school.


-- 

Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca

What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs            This has been brought to 
Rolls over your neighbor's dog?                     you by the numbers 4
What's great for a snack and fits on your back?     and 9 and the letter P.
It's Log, Log, Log!  -- "The Log Song", from            -- Big Bird
                         Ren & Stimpy

Math is tough!       -- Barbie
From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Desktop Publishing Project -- AGAIN!!!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 09:21:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message < 6 Jan 93  12:14:45> to <All Zaney People> about <Desktop Publishing Project>,
Becky Ferreira wrote:

 BF> Knock, Knock, Hello?  Is anybody out there?  Can you hear me?  I'm
 BF> trapped in this computer, please help me?  The only way I can get out
 BF> of this computer is if you help me with my desktop publishing project.
 BF> If you have any information please respond so I can be free at last.

Becky,
There have been AT LEAST half a dozen replies to your last attempt at
gaining information on this subject but I have not seen a single response
from you regarding ANY of them!  Since I am sure that you would not be so
rude as to ignore those who have offered you information, I must assume
that you did not read them!

Would you please search this message area for previous messages to you?

If you are unable to find them, they may have scrolled out of your system
since the last time you logged in.  You are welcome to ask for more
information but would you please ensure that your questions are SPECIFIC?

Regards,
Steve Larson   (K12net Zone 1 Computer Literacy Moderator)

... Have a nice day....unless you have other plans.

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From: Mike.Lastucka@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Lastucka)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Simms
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 01:44:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton AB

-= Subspace message from Bob Coulter to All intercepted =-
 BC> My son, who is in the Navy and stationed in Panama, will be sending
 BC> me an additional 4 megs of ram for my computer as a Christmas gift. 
 BC> Due to his nature it will be late.  He indicated that the chips where
 BC> 80ns but I have 70ns chips installed.  From what I have read I will
 BC> not be able to use these chips, is this correct? 

as far as I know, nope.  Gotta have the same speed chips that your computer
can handle.  Later!



... Choosey perverts choose GIF!

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From: Gary.Cressman@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Cressman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: Computer Literacy
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 13:03:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Dear Morrin School,

I don't believe Jim Carlisle is on K12. I do know that he is on
America On-Line. His user name is TIIEJim. 

Gary


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From: Steve.Martindale@puddle.fidonet.org (Steve Martindale)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: buyers beware!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 03:29:51 PDT
Organization: Pacific Systems Group

Hi ART,

I read your letter about the Tandy not having a volume control.  If you want to shut the speaker off or turn down the sound their are a few programs that might be on your local BBS's that will do the job.  The one in particular that I am thinking of is called SILENCE.  It does what the name implies.  If you want the computer not to have any sound at all just cut the wires or put in its own volume control, but only do it if you feel comfortable about it.  

See ya in the funny papers....
Steve Martindale





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