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From: jpreston@nyx.cs.du.edu (no-nick)
Subject: Re: Bass World (was: Friday thoughts)
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 21:22:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.171554.2973@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (
eff Beer) writes:
>In the jazz world, everyone's bass player these days is Charlie Haden.
>Anyone who has a record date would kill to get him on.  Previously,
>of course, that has been Ron Carter, Richard Davis, and Dave Holland.
>Then there is Neils Orsted Pederson (SP) from Denmark.  If your record
>date is in Europe, that is who you will get.  Steve Bulmer is going
>to have high praises for him.  You watch.  I am surprised 
>that J.J. Avenel isn't getting called more.  I think he is _THE_ up
>and coming bass player of the day.  He currently works in Steve Lacy's
>band.  Believe it or not, I got to record with him in 1985. 
>
>Fortunately, the drummer knows his opinions on bass players suck,
>so we won't be hearing from him.  
>
>The no-nicker will chime in with A.H.'s bass player, is that Jimmy
>Johnson?
>
>Electric?  Forget the haircut, check out Jamaaladeen Tacuma.
>I know I am missing someone.
>
>Jeff


I
That's a real surprise -- you know who Holdsworth's regular bassist
is?  Wow. Well, yeah, Jimmy a great player. Doesn't he also work with
Flim and the BBs? 

My real picks for bass players would have to be Vic Wooten, Jeff
Berlin (even though he can't write his way out of a paper bag, and
I haven't heard or seen anything about him in six years, other than
his endorsement deal with Peavey), and Flea. Tony Levin, too.

Speaking of Vic Wooten, I just got _UFO Tofu_ the other day, and although
I'd already heard half the tunes this past spring at the UK student 
ballroom, I was still surprised by the overall feel of the disc. It's
distinctly different from the previous CDs (and I think Futureman is
getting the hang of that Drumitar, finally).

Well, gotta run -- some jerk is trying to message me on
this beast, and I can't shut him off.

Jeff ("n.n.")


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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:40:51 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      lunchtime
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  I take it back, Naked Lunch (the movie) is ok to see, for it's weirdness
and the music (bug-like is definitely the operative).  But the book is
different, and deeper.  It should be required reading in English 101.

  Got a chance to play with a real drummer last night, and he's good.  He
kept playing behind the beat, which, paradoxically, pushed the rhythm,
I guess 'cuz we had to momentarily speed up to catch the beat before it
got away.  Really enjoyable to play that way, very dynamic.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:44:00 GMT
From:         Eddy Higgins <SCCS6068@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE>
Subject:      Bodhran trivia

A previous posting asked to know more about the bodhran - I have compiled a
certain amount of useful and useless information on the subject if anyone is
still interested.
 If so, let me know and I'll gladly post it or email it to anyone interested.

   Eddy.

SCCS6068@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE   or EDDY@CSVAX1.UCC.IE
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:30:55 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Thoughts on Prince
              18 Aug 1992 19:59:00 LCL from <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>

You're right, Kevin--Prince has done a few good tunes for other artists.
I've seen "Martika's Kitchen" in video form;  I don't know that the song
had much mass appeal (but that, of course, doesn't mean the song wasn't good--
we all know how fickle the public can be).  I just hope he can rebound with
his own albums soon.

BTW, I've been a Prince fan since his first album "For You", which was about
four albums before the celebrated "1999".  I've always admired that he was the
first new artist to get a record contract that would allow him to do his own
producing, writing and performing without any help from anyone.

Michelle
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Deep thoughts

>From: Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
>Subject: Deep thoughts

>This is probally crazy to you, but it makes me wonder, maybe someone has
>a explanation i can understand. There are artist's who are the tops at
>what they do like miles,coltrane,Jimi.......etc different styles pretty
>much have "the player" of that style, then why do we listen to others when
>we can listen to the top player?

        When someone falls in love with someone else, he/she thinks that
it should/could/will last forever. Which is often not true. If everything
finishes, when we meet someone else we should try to love him/her for what
he/she is, not as a mere reflection of whom we have loved in the past.
        More musically speaking, surely Miles, Coltrane, Jimi were great
artists. Even geniuses, if you want. But this doesn't mean: 1) that they
have explored ALL their territories; 2) that everything they've done is
absolutely perfect. I can't really think of an artist who never had a
downside moment in his/her career. Not even those I love the most.
        In general, music is so wide that we can't really encompass it in
a polygon whose vertices are just a few artists. Jimi was great, OK, but
this doesn't mean that those who tried to sound like him were rubbish.
Some of them did great things. And some other guitarists abandoned his
style and did even better, in my opinion. The rainbow has much more than
seven colours -- it would be horrible without shades... :)

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:42:00 ZONE
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Trimuph Import

     I'm responding to whoever inquired about the Trimuph CD.  I have tried
to send private E-Mail, but I can't reach you from here for some reason.

     Trimuph is not listed, but it is best to call as Sound City sends out
monthly catalogs which only list new and best selling imports.  Thus they
may have it but it may not be listed in the current catalog.  The number
is (503) 654-2196, no 800 number available.

Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:57:53 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Urban Ambience Blooms Again
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Lil Miss Missteak Queen reviews FLOW:

Taking our time, everything's cool up here on the roof
just be careful, wait
omigod it's the
MONSTER FROM THE ID
no it isn't
yes it IS
nah it's just some weird party
the little tin men are getting DOWN
oh god something is crawling up from the cellar
the dog men are...
did you hear that?
that was a REDUNDANT RIFF
nah that was Brando's snakeskin jacket in slo-mo
watch it, there's something dripping
how'd we end up in the jungle?
nobody gets out of here alive
giant chicken heads sucked into a drain
oop one got caught
oh no we're going down too
fields of crinkling wet aluminum dollar bills
messages sent by tiny mice from the Planet Droid (1955)
1962 nightclub afterhours extraterrestrial cricket
has fallen in pool of spilled beer under the bar
hulking boogie man plods heavily up the Potemkin steps
a small slippery creature follows him and mews for a drink
evil bugs at a disco dance
they get inspired, change from B&W to color
girls in off-the-shoulder ruffles dip and sway in
fibrillating electric breezes
children's wooden ABC blocks bouncing through the Paris sewers
the radio is dimly heard through the thick sweating walls
yow a fight in Apt. 2C

Michael, I loved it!!!
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:32:09 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      I'm white and I can't get down
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Here's a song I heard on a COUNTRY MUSIC station that might tickle your funny
bone.  The song was co-wroted by Clinton Greagory; a native Virginian.

(The Chorus) I don't remember the rest but when I do I will send mail

I'm white and I can't get down.
I have two left feet on the ground.
I want to go out and do the town.
I'm white and I can't get down.
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From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Subject: Re: Chris Squire - solo LP's
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:45:34 GMT

I was in Tower Records' import section just the other day and saw a slot
for Chris Squire (although empty). I would assume that his only solo album
has been released on CD format.  My roomate actually owns a vinyl copy of
this--now, I love Yes and being a bass player, love Chris Squire but this
album ranks up there with Jon Anderson's "Alias of SunHillow" yecccchhh.

:) :) :)

john
SPSS
I don't think me co knows *wot* I'm talking about.



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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:42:55 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      cuz i'm a ponderer...
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I apologize if that last blank message made it thru the list... I leaned over
to answer the phone and my right breast managed to type ctl z and the message
went off prematurely...  ooopsie  :)

Anyhow... Lenny pondered:

>(1) If you had ypur choice of playing in any band past/present who
>    would it be or would you rahter front your own.

I'd like to play bohran or northumbrian pipes for Urban Ambience... though,
upon my fantasy membership, a name change to Rural Bumfuckhood would be in
order...  *grin*

>(2) Think hard on this one, what do you think of Chet Atkins also
>    do you own any of his stuff

I like his music for sentimental reasons... my dad played his stuff quite
often...

>(3) on a scale of 1 to 10 how important is music in your life

Not as important as sex.... but DAMN close...  music could be the 6 and sex
could be the 9....  ;)

I have music around me for nearly every activity in my life... I work with my
walkman on and I can't even play a tennis match without a boom box providing
backing inspiration (I won a set while playing Pearl Jam yesterday)... hell, I
even plan my holidays around music festivals and travel all over to get my
fill... and I still can't get enough. I suspect I never will...  By the age of
11, I was hooked and buying 45's and LP's when all the rest of my girlfriends
were buying clothes and make-up...  If there were such a thing as Music Addicts
Anonymous, I'd be prez... Is there anyone else out there whose got it as bad
for music as me... I suspect there are many.  :)

>(4) Which instrument besides the one you play would you like to
>    play

I don't play but I plan on rectifying that by buying a bodran (somehow) and
learning to play it... I have a bit of a percussive streak in me and I adore
celtic music, so it seems like a natural choice.  I just hope my wrists can
handle it (though Chucky may be able to offer me some wrist strengthing advice)
:)  Northumbrian or Uillian pipes would rank a close second.  I'd also probably
get off by fiddling with a sitar too...  :)  It is likely that I don't have the
wind to blow on anything (instrumental that is)...

I'd also like to suggest that we all take some mushrooms in honor of Mr. Cage.
:)

- Carol
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From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      Garth Brooks
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Has anyone been to a Garth Brooks concert?  If so what did you think of it &
is it worth the price?
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:07:53 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      re: favorite German bands
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Thanks for the info.  I do miss Tower Records -- here in Maine you have to
get lucky -- though Portland has a few good stores.  I'll try to track down
that new Vuh.  Have you seen any of their old stuff (Aguirre, Hoseanna
Mantra,
Tantric Songs) on CD?

keep in touch,

Russell
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:14:03 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Here comes the political stuff again...
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              92 11:28 am

Rick sayth:

>It's a scream. You probably didn't intend it to read it the way it does --
>any undecided voter, after reading your post, is now guaranteed not to vote
>Republican.

	Great! Anyone who is undecided at this point deserves to be
mislead. If we have to live through four more years of a lame-duck
administration, we might as well throw in the towel. I'm not crazy
about Clinton, but we definately need a chance.



--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:50:43 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Help me create a FAQ file

>Posted on 19 Aug 1992 at 11:42:29 by Michelle May
>
>RE: Help me create a FAQ file
>
>Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:39:34 EDT
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>O.K.--I've finally found the courage to ask (since you're gonna put this in
>your FAQ's).  What does OMC mean?

Well, it means Oh My Cod. Which is an expression of surprise that we
use here in the ocean state.

jcs
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:44:46 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cuz i'm a ponderer...
              13 Aug 1992 21:42:55 MDT from <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:42:55 MDT weasels ripped my dress said:
>I apologize if that last blank message made it thru the list... I leaned over
>to answer the phone and my right breast managed to type ctl z and the message
>went off prematurely...  ooopsie  :)
>
Now that's what I call intelligence and looks in the same package. . . so to
speak (-:
>
>>(4) Which instrument besides the one you play would you like to
>>    play
>
>I don't play but I plan on rectifying that by buying a bodran (somehow) and
>learning to play it... I have a bit of a percussive streak in me and I adore
>celtic music, so it seems like a natural choice.  I just hope my wrists can
>handle it (though Chucky may be able to offer me some wrist strengthing advice)
>:)  Northumbrian or Uillian pipes would rank a close second.  I'd also probably
>get off by fiddling with a sitar too...  :)  It is likely that I don't have the
>wind to blow on anything (instrumental that is)...
>
I doubt the wrists will be much of a problem as you don't have to hold them at
an especially awkward angle.  And playing the winds builds lung capacity over
time--you'll be amazed.  In fact, some winds give you the problem of having to
get rid of air, instead of gasping for it.  Go for it.
From: doug@oregon.uoregon.edu (doug anders)
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Subject: Chris Squire - solo LP's
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:10:19 GMT
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I'm an old Yes fan from way back. Can anybody suggest ways to locate Chris 
Squire's (only?) solo LP "Fish out of Water"? I heard it when I was in high 
school many years ago and loved it. I regret not purchasing it at the time. 
I went to the record store recently under the delusion that I might find it 
in CD form. The Phonolog catalogue did not even list the vinyl version of 
the album. Also, has Squire ever recorded any other solo albums? I would 
appreciate anybody's guidance on this subject.
						--Doug @ U of Oregon
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Subject: [DMetcalf%IC-LOG: [DMetcalf%IC-LOG: ZZAJ SOUND]]
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What's good to start off with from the ZZAJ collection?
If ya' REALLY dig SS like ya' said (&, flamers, I'm in
NO way comparing my stuph to his quality/level), I think
probably you'd enjoy earlier stuff with Davey Williams
& LaDonna Smith, particularly a tape called "SDRAWKCAB
ZZAJ"... I play kbordz, read poetry against Davey's HOT
gitar, John Thompson (a Huntspatch, Alabummer drummer)
does all percussion & it's VERY free-form, with a jazz-
boogie-blooz orientation, if ya' kin figger that out...

...if yer ONLY in to checkin' out the DIFFERENT kinds
of group ensembles I've played in, perhaps my '92 Sampler
is the best way to go.

What do I sound like?  Difficult to answer... sound like
SEVERAL different genres on the 29 tapes I've made thus
far... guess sumup would be that it sounds like a VERY
jaded Baptist choirboy... strong church/blooz influences,
lots of rant/poesy, with my (meager) jazz riffs incorporated.
My focus over the last three years has been to play with
folks of DIFFERENT styles... & I've been able to do THAT,
at least... catalog describes the tapes better than I can in
a netpost!


Sampler is $3.00... others are $6.00 ($5.00 if yer order
2 or more) per.  My catalog's been posted on here before,
but if ya' missed it, S.A.S.E. will get you a copy of
that!

I'll look forward to (reg'lar) mail from ya', as WELL
as yer post on Cage!!!

ROTCOD ZZAJ

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:25:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject: re: tangerine dream

Yes, they certianly did.  They were supposed to do tfe music to "Miami Vice",
but they got into "Streethawk" instead.  I wonder what that would've sounded
like!?

I don't know what ftp is (or however those letters were).  I'm also not sure
how to reply correctly, so I could use some help, as I am new on the list!

Thanks,
 _
Meshel
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:07:49 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: cuz i'm a ponderer...
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Ken with the vibrating lips said:

>>I apologize if that last blank message made it thru the list... I leaned over
>>to answer the phone and my right breast managed to type ctl z and the message
>>went off prematurely...  ooopsie  :)
>>
>Now that's what I call intelligence and looks in the same package. . . so to
>speak (-:

Gee.... I never considered the fact that I could have an intelligent right
breast!  I'll have to add that to my ID file!  ;)   *blush*

Re: the bodhran
>I doubt the wrists will be much of a problem as you don't have to hold them at
>an especially awkward angle.

I was more concerned with the mallet action -- it looks as though it would be
tiring on the wrists...  or am I out to lunch here??

>And playing the winds builds lung capacity over
>time--you'll be amazed.  In fact, some winds give you the problem of having to
>get rid of air, instead of gasping for it.  Go for it.

Well... there we go!  I'll have to practice blowing...  :*)  I just need
someone to teach me... Beer??  ;)  I knew there was a reason I'm making a
return trip to Chi-town...  *giggle*

- Carol
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Help me create a FAQ file
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:59:02 GMT

In article <920820.075017.PDT.SPGDAM@UCCVMA> David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET> writes:
> "Record Labeling Is/Is Not Censorship"
> "Guns N Roses: Threat or Menace?"
> "Lyrics Versus Music"
> "Rain Songs"
> "CD Oxidation"
> "Oldies But Goodies (or Why Today's Music Sucks)"
> "Why Doesn't Anyone Talk About (insert band name or style of music here)"
> "Is Country Music?"
> "Does Bill Clinton Govern Better Than He Plays the Saxophone?"

also:

Impressionism Wars
Which is better:  Bach keyboard music on Piano or Harpsichord?
Proof that Shostakovich secretly wishes he had written Bolero.

These are the topics in which Roof is all wet.

Jeff
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:11:08 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Steve Howe
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	Also, through my friendly disk import source, I finally
aquired two long awaited CDs:

	TOMORROW <untitled>. This is one of Steve Howe's bands before joining
Yes. I used to have this album on vinyl, and couldn't wait to get the CD
copy of it. For one thing, it's a lot more informative. (the liner notes
give the history of the band), and it includes a B-side that wasn't on the
LP, however, one track is omitted in it's place. The track, "Excerpt From
a Teenage Opera" wasn't really one of my favorites, so no big lost. The
whole disk is very good, but my favorite track is probably "Revolution" (Not
a Beatles cover), with "My White Bicycle" running a close second.

	BODEST, <The Early Years>. This is the band Steve was in just
before joining Yes. This album isn't  really that exciting, but it'll be
good for the collection. One interesting item, is the revelation
that "Wurm", which is the last part of the Yes song "Starship Trooper,"
was actually the Bodest song "Nether Street," before Howe fit it into
the Yes song.




--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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