From: tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: To all you weenies....
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:48:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr8.014853.10831
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr7.190513.29795@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.000947.10790@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.144124.17239@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>>
>>>	To all you people who are taken in by the propaganda of
>>>certain Western countries regarding our logging, my reply to you is:
>>>go fuck yourself.  Read what our Prime Minister said regarding our
>>>controlled logging, and maybe, you will understand once and for all,
>>>why the whole issue has been blown out of proportion to make us
>>>accountable for what is essentially the developed nations' mistakes.
>>>Open your mind, and try seeing how some developed nations are using
>>>the logging issue to hide the lack of steps taken by their government
>>>to fight global warming.  Your ignorance and willingness to trust some
>>>foreign governments make me sick!!  If I were you, I would take all
>>>the precautionary steps not to reproduce because your children will
>>>turn out to be just like you -- unfaithful, and easily taken in by the
>>>propaganda of other governments.
>>>
>>>	Hopefully, the government will continue to log at the present
>>>rate, or increase it to show to the world that we are not affected by
>>>their propaganda or their pressures...
>>>
>>>===------ 
>>>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>>>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>>>promised to take our land and they took it.
>>>                                                        Red Cloud
>>
>>It is your freedom to express what you think. But your article makes me sick.
>>I think it is time for you to treat your fellow Malaysian as mature aldult.
>>Saudara NorAazizam, We can judge what is right from wrong.
>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Of course you can, comrade Loh!  You and your ilks live by the
>premise that everything that the Malaysian government does is wrong.
>You know why?  Because you are born with a hypocrite gen, and there is
>no way anyone can do that can change your attitude towards the
>government.  Why don't you all do us a favor and migrate to Hong Kong,
>because that is probably what you have been aiming for all your time.
>Malaysia will be better off with people whose loyalty is with Malaysia
>and not with other states like Singapore, RPC, Taiwan or Hong Kong.
>
You have no right to call me to migrate my friend. Why should I? I think it is you who should migrate, maybe South Africa will be a good place for you.
It is a disgrace of you to to say that we are not loyal to the people. I see
you are loyal to the "corrupted politician" who have brainwashed you, my
dear friend. It is not your corrupted politician friend that supported your
studies in MIT. It is we, the taxpayers money that you are spending on. You
owe it to the Malaysia people not to the bunch of corrupted politicians
who have feed you with a silver spoon. Wake up, my friend!

>>At least, we are trying to look at the problems and try our very best
>>to solve it. Anybody who has stayed in Malaysia and know the logging
>>industry will tell you that we do not need the western or Malaysia
>>propanganda to know the truth.
>
>	And another informed bloke just told me that we have to cut
>down or stop logging to save the ozone layer.  What is next?  Are you
>going to tell me that acid rain will no longer be the issue if we stop
>cutting trees down?
>
I never say anything about ozone layer or acid rain. Do not try to sway from 
the topic. I think you should better study harder more about economics
and ecology before discussing about the outcome of the effect of logging.
The problems caused by logging is long term and not short term. If you
have studied your biology well enough, you will know the effect on the 
ecosystem. Maybe, you have come across the word biological cycle, photosynthesis, respiration, the nature of the jungle which is important for lot of 
the animals,etc. Research has shown that it is always cheaper to prevent
than to clean or remedy later. Simple economics?
>>I think that people who are responsible and dare to say what is wrong
>>should produce more because they make the world a better place to
>>live. 
>
>	This criterion should rule you and your ilks out
>automatically...
>
>
It is you who I am refering to. I hope you reread the statement above. 
===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud


I think it is time for you to keep your mouth shut and concentrate on your
studies so that the money spent by the taxpayers money (not your corrupted
friends) is worth it!
T-P Loh