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From: @moci.uucp
Subject: Re: Help! What is this group for?
Organization: ICOM, Inc., West Allis, WI
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 00:09:01 GMT
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maryelen@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen) writes:
: [...] ] 
: If someone out there could please tell me what this group is for, I would be 
: very greatful!
: 
: Thanks in advance.

This group was started by the Industrial Computing Society (ICS) for
discussing and exchanging information on various aspects of factory
automation.  It was to be an open forum for topics such as data
acquisition, hardened PCs, industrial software, etc.  Yet, as broad
as that is, there has been almost no activity here, although the
group is frequently mistaken for alt.music.industrial.  This has been
the source of some amusing posts in the past, IMHO.

I think this group might fare better as comp.industrial rather than
an alt group, but I suppose comp.realtime is close enough. .

Cheers,
Dave Ruske           ...!uwm.edu!moci!dave        GEnie: D.RUSKE1
From: ics.rick@Control.Com (Richard F. Kaerwer)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Realtime software jobs decreasing?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: ics.rick@control.com
Organization: Industrial Computing Society

Has anyone else sensed that PLC and software development is being
outsourced more and more?  Thereby, if one wants to stay in the field,
one either joins a software house (for software) or joins a PLC firm
(to do ladder logic)?

Another alternative is to try to "slide" into a related field, like
networking or "configuring" off-the-shelf software.  The problem there
is that a company doesn't need many of those on a given site!

I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts!

-- Rick Kaerwer, ICI Films, Hopewell, VA
From: maryelen@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen )
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Help! What is this group for?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:38:13 GMT
Organization: Industry Science & Technology Canada

Hello there! I am working for Industry, Science, and Technology Canada, 
selecting the newsgroups which seem appropriate for people in the office. 
This group does not have a description in Gopher, and there are no postings 
as of today (July 30).

If someone out there could please tell me what this group is for, I would be 
very greatful!

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.recovery,misc.misc,misc.comsumers
From: mgflax@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Subject: First step
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:24:23 GMT

Hi.  My name is Marshall, and I'm a USENET addict.

["Hi Marshall" is heard in the background.]

At least I haven't lost my job or fiancee yet.

marshall
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Newsgroups: alt.usenet.recovery
From: baillod@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Brad Baillod)
Subject: Re: Net "Addiction": a Theory
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:55:39 GMT

In article <FRIEDMAN.92Jul12191306@nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman) writes, about two weeks ago:

>   The net also requires one to primarily consider what people *say*, not
>what they look like or sound like.  Or, if I initially mistrusted an idea,
>it's given me the opportunity to "observe" it until I became more
>comfortable with it or more certain of its faults.  I think this has done
>more for me to eliminate whatever prejudices I may have had when I was
>younger than anything else.
>
>   The net brings out more honesty in people about what they think, in my
>opinion.  I've also observed that some people's level of maturity is vastly
>different from what I would have expected it to be just from being with
>them in person.  No doubt this is because people are often more likely to
>behave the way they really are (or want to be) when they are given some
>anonymity.  The net provides this not so much because of the possibility of

I agree with this.  Usenet-style communication, with anonymity, is becoming
the hot new way of conducting corporate meetings.  (Actually I should say
IRC-style communication.)  It makes people more willing to share their ideas.

-- 
Brad Baillod						baillod@eecs.umich.edu
From: meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach)
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.recovery
Subject: Face-to-face meetings... (was Re: Net "Addiction": a Theory)
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:55:26 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Jul21.184320.7753@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> cbraun@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Corinne Braun) writes:
>Yeah...but just wait until you meet them in real life...
>you might not be able to stand them....

Sounds like you may have had a bad experience, Corinne... What about the
possiblity that you might really like them a lot?  That *really* can happen...
at least it has in my personal experience.

--jm
meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.recovery
From: smithrud@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Carolyn Louise Smithrud)
Subject: Re: Face-to-face meetings... (was Re: Net "Addiction": a Theory)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:32:46 GMT

In article <BrrBGF.6Eu@acsu.buffalo.edu> meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.184320.7753@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> cbraun@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Corinne Braun) writes:
>>Yeah...but just wait until you meet them in real life...
>>you might not be able to stand them....
>
>Sounds like you may have had a bad experience, Corinne... What about the
>possiblity that you might really like them a lot?  That *really* can happen...
>at least it has in my personal experience.
>
>--jm
>meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu

jm,

I have talked to a couple of people who have met face-to-face with their
well-like penpals and found they didn't like them after seeing what they
looked like, believe it or not.  There's an "unhealthy" example, in my
opinion ... unhealthy for the person whose feelings were probably strongly
hurt by this action.  

Cari Smithrud
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: dammit i hate doing this
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:55:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine


i really hate asking this,
but...

does anyone know a song that has a female sining
something like

"I want to reach out,
and touch the sky"
???
pretty please?

ive really fallen in love with this song so im going to 
go beat up any record stores that dont carry it :)



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 ,				 world would be a much softer place."
dana watanabe 		email to: DWATANAB@UCI.EDU
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Apotheosis--No Show (was Re: "GO" samples)
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:07:51 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1992Jul24.064523.4676@gagme.chi.il.us> wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller) writes:
>
>Apotheosis was supposed to play at Kaboom! a club here in Chicago.  They
>didn't show up though.  Rumour was taht they just cancelled, but ppl at
>the club were saying something about airplane problems.  The DJs they
>had were okay, but I didn't pay $7 to hear DJs play in a club...
>
>such is life...

This is too wierd.  Apotheosis was, according to the radio, *supposed*
to play at The Institute in Miami Beach last night.  We got all the way
down there only to find the place all closed up, no signs, and no interesting
people milling about.  All very wierd.  Appearantly there is an "Encore"
show much closer to home tonight but I wonder.....
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching)
Subject: Heavenly Choirs?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 07:43:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Summary: Looking for techno choirs ( but NOT "O Fortuna" ! )
Distribution: alt.rave
Keywords: whirling dervish, choirs 


 Hello Everyone! I have a music request, that is inspired by an altered-
consciousness experience I had at a rave. A tune was played that had this
"heavenly" choir on it (definetly not "O FORTUNA"), that I began to dance to
in a tight circle ( I was trying to do a whirling dervish move ). To my 
surprise and delight, I was quite transported! I believe the strobes helped
too.

 Anyway - can anybody recommend any techno/rave/dance music with choirs in 
it - with the qualifier that "O Fortuna" kind of singing is NOT what I'm 
after. I think "O Fortuna" is too choppy and doomy for my purposes.

 ( Maybe it's a flashback to my Catholic religious upbringing :-/ !!! ) 

                                    Larry "former altar boy" Ching



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From: ccsteve@cybaswan.UUCP ( s marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Rave Making (Equiptment)
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:45:15 GMT
Reply-To: ccsteve@pyr.swan.ac.uk ( s marshall)

In relation to rave making, does anyone have the address of a UK supplier
of stage/effects equiptment ie.
MoonFlowers/Strobes/UV's and Hot Fog machines

Thanks in advance, StevE
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: kill morrissey?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: ahawks@nyx.UUCP (andy)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:36:36 GMT

In article <25JUL199220001928@rosie.uh.edu> elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL)
writes: 
|In article <14srcpINN2ar@agate.berkeley.edu>, bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu
|(Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes... 
|>elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL) mercilessly writes:
|>>			What do you all think? Should I  mace him 
|>>		with hairspray and then beat him to death with a
|>> 		    slab of corn fed beef or what?
|> 
|>Naw, just remix him.
|> 
|>Seriously, a friend of mine did a techno remix of "That's Entertainment"
|>by backing it (It's mainly acoustic, no drums) with a Bomb the Bass song
|>"Love so True", I think; and it meshed perfectly, and there was a terrific
|>call-and-reply between his verses and the drum fills in the BTB song :)
|> 
|>He hates techno, so I guess this would have the same effect as what you 
|>propose....
|> 
|>	Brian
|> 
|
|
|	The title can be 1. "Who shot morrissey?"
|		         2. "morrissey is in heaven now."
|			 3. "Is morrissey gay?"
|			 4. "Who is morrissey?"
|	  and finnally   5. "morrissey *is* dead"
|
|     Dan  :) 
|_____________________________________________________________________________

I like the last one....:) :) :)....

Seriously, Vitamin B is right...Right when Electronic was forming, a local tv
show interviewed Morrissey, at, like the Hacienda or some other huge English
club...Anyway, Morrissey was talking about Johnny Marr's new direction (which
he doesn't like, apparently) and then some techno music blasted him out of the
water over the microphone, and he literaly put his hands over his ears: "would
you mind if we moved?" said the Moz with a saddenning frown on his Prozac-worn
face..:)

He doesn't like dance music for anything....You could probably kill him just
by sticking him in a room with the Pet Shop Boys...

But, I actually like the guy, so, please, please, please, let him get he wants
this time....

Or, another way to kill him might be to show him some of his friends who've
become successful...Or play that song by Warlock Pinchers "Morrissey rides a
cockhorse" or something like that....

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ericp@beach.csulb.edu (Eric Pederson  CSE)
Subject: Re: S'cuze me... AND dammit i hate...
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:37:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.212223.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.215438.27769@nmsu.edu>, rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>> 
>> Unknown song, with a few samples....  
>> 
>> "S'cuze me, while I kiss the sky..."
>> 
>> It started out with either "Freak OUt" or "Superfreak"
>> 
>
>the song is the DOpe GodDAMit hardKOR bastard of a song
>
>"There Is No Law" by Messiah

The version with the Le Freak (Wishdokta "Wasted") sample
is the Twitch remix by our own Mike Wertheim.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: clg1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chris "deephouse" Gray)
Subject: Nexus 21(Altern 8)
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:25:13 GMT

 Now I know someone has heard Nexus 21's "Self-Hypnosis"
by now.  It's been about 3 months since I have asked.
Does anyone know if they have an album out with grooves
similiar to this?

And by the way, Im a old-skool househead!


   _______      __________   __________   _______    
  /______/ \   /_________/  /_________/  /______/ \  
 | |     \ /| | |          | |          | |     \ /| 
 | |      | | | |______    | |______    | |______|/  
 | |      | | |/______/    |/______/    |/______/    
 | |      | | | |          | |          | |          
 | |______|/  | |_________ | |_________ | |          
 |/______/    |/_________/ |/_________/ |/           

                   ____                      _____      __________ 
  /|       /|    /___ / \   /|       /|    /____ / \   /_________/ 
 | |      | |  /|     \ /| | |      | |  /|      \ /  | |          
 | |______| | | |      | | | |      | | |/ \ _____    | |______    
 |/_______| | | |      | | | |      | |  \ /____ / \  |/______/    
 | |      | | | |      | | | |      | |          \ /| | |          
 | |      | | |/ \ ____|/  |/ \ ____|/   / \ _____|/  | |_________ 
 |/       |/   \ /____/     \ /____/     \ /_____/    |/_________/ 

THE DEEPHOUSE PROJEKT 1992......DEEPHOUSE COMMANDS YOU TO HOUSE DAT BODEE!
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BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS
Mr. Christopher L. Gray   * Blak Kings and Queens 
clg1@ra.MsState.edu       *     Come Forth! 
BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS   
Xref: sparky alt.rave:1812 rec.music.misc:20427
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
Date: 24 Jul 1992 07:44:10 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <qagcoB2w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP writes:
>bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
>
>> Speaking of techno-60's remakes, anyone heard and/or know the name of and/or
>> have the techno version of "Hey Jude"? Very similar to Candy Flip's remake
>> of Strawberry Fields, but here they still use the original vocals. I guess
>> for that reason it's probably not an official release...
>    If I'm not mistaken, that's a remix of SL2's "On A Ragga Tip."  Goes 
>through the normal song without the usual intro, plays the song for a bit 
>with a restyled beat, then goes back and forth from "Hey Jude" to "On A 
>Ragga Tip."  

Really? Hmm... this sounds like a complete song, not just a small snippet.
I mean, I could basically do the same thing with the correct Beatles album
and a couple of "DJ Tools", but this one was so smooth.. it was the entire,
original Beatles toon too, so we probably won't see it legitimately released.

>If you like that, and like hardcore/breakbeat style techno, 
>also check out Acen's "Close Your Eyes" remix.  Has a pretty well-done 
>(in my opinion) sample of "Here Comes The Sun."  It does it for me... 
>especially when you're dancing around 6am and hear it.  How appropo!

	Yes, the "optikonfusion" mix is GREAT.  I bought a compilation called
"Rave II" that supposedly had this mix on CD, but they had _edited_out_ the
the "Here Comes the Sun" samples. aaaarrrggghhh!

	Brian

Overdose.
Over dose.
ooovvveeerrrdddooossseee......
"fa...."


	
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Subject: Re: S'cuze me, while I kiss the sky...
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:23:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.215438.27769@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>
>Unknown song, with a few samples....  
>
>"S'cuze me, while I kiss the sky..."

I believe Messiah's "There is No Law" has this sample...

>It started out with either "Freak OUt" or "Superfreak"

I don't know about this though...
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making
Organization: OOBEs 'R' us
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:48:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.213655.2140@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

>... Fog is an option, but use it effectively,
>don't smoke the people out.  Due to a change in plans, the last rave I did
>didn't have any fog and I think it was better without it.  The laser looked
>better on the wall than in the air and there was a "clean" feeling to the
>whole thing.

Well, I like to be able to see most of the time, but there's nothing like
the sensation of being totally fog-bound. Especially when there's a strong
strobe going which cuts through the fog. The effect is like that of the
Dreammachine combined with a ganzfeld effect: your depth perception just
sort of gives up and you wind up in this sparkling haze of little crystalline
flecks. And, yes, this has happened when I've been straight.

Another great thing about the fog is that it's a great way of breaking 
down the scoping or posing state of mind. If you can't see, you can't
pose. People drop their fronts to deal with the strange new visual space
they're in, and when they meet, it's a whole new kind of meeting, the
experience of connecting with a fellow voyager.

Then emerging from there into the "clean" space you talk about can be 
really brilliant. What I think would be great is a fog-bound ambient room,
contrasted with a vast open main floor... UFORB on the system and really
slowly sweeping laser beams...  you could enter through a clear
plastic barrier or something. The only bad part of this would be the
chalkiness that you sort of taste when the fog is real thick. 

Hey, does anyone know if this stuff is bad for you? Or rather, how bad?
Or if there's a kind of fog juice which doesn't give you that fuzzy taste?

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| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |  I like him just fine.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: James Brown *IS* Dead
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 07:18:05 GMT


It really, really is over folks....eMpTV (Mtv for the illiterate) had a
segment on their "news" show today and featured the Smart E's song with the
Sesame Street shit in it...They had all these labels for it:  "Toy-techno"
"kiddie-techno" or "kiddie-house" and crap like that....

If 90210 killed the rave, then Kurt Loded killed techno....(BTW - Denver's
local bubble-gum-chewing-mall-hanging-big-hair-wairin-12-year-old-listenin
radio station plays James Brown is Dead in its little party mix shit
program...This is just the beginning: that + 90210 episode + the eMpTV report
today + the cool World soundtrack + articles in Newsweek and shit...It's
over..I didn't believe it when people were saying it a few months ago, but,
now I do...

Rave In Peace....

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: khill@reed.edu (Tha Bitch)
Subject: Germany: Raves, info requested
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:35:38 GMT

Please e-mail any info on interesting happenings in Germany in the
August 5-August 21 range.  Anywhere in Germany is fine (I think)
as long as I can locate it on a map.

Thanks in advance,
khill@reed.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller)
Subject: Re: Future Sounds of London
Originator: wyller@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:28:35 GMT

In article <3609@cvbnetPrime.COM> bledbett@funk.prime.com (Bruce Ledbetter) writes:
>Someone in one of these news groups posted a detailed review
>of an album called Accelerator by Future Sounds of London.
>I called around Boston looking for this but Tower nor Newbury
>Comics has heard of it, one person at Newbury said that he thought
>there was a compilation by named FSOL.
>Has anyone in the US seen this CD?  Is it a compilation?  What label? 
>                            bledbett@funk.prime.com        

Jumpin' and Pumpin' Records - CD TOT2  (import)
From: gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Fuck You Motherfuckers
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:50:54 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.


Hi,

I was reading Mix Mag last night,and it showed Joey Beltrams Top 10.
No:8 in his chart was a track of his own called "Fuck You Motherfuckers".
Has anyone heard this?,is it old or new and if it's new when's it getting
released?.

Thanks in advance

Gav
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