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From: stojanov@husc8.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Happy April 10
Keywords: bubbles,congratulations
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:06:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr10.200604.10941
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I would like to remind everyone on the great occasion.  The
fifty-first anniversary of the formation of the one thousand 
years old dream of the Croatian people, the Independent state 
of Croatia I.  Let us see whether the Independent
State of  Croatia II would outdo the first one, both 
by duration and glory ( I guess that that depends upon
Germany?).  

Milan
From: benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: THIS IS RIDICULOUS!
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:08:26 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

O.K. guys, I just got out of my economics tutorial and, by God, I really 
feel ridiculous.  I mean, there we were, six white guys, three of us
blond, talking about the radical economic theories of racial and gender
discrimination, and our discussion was being filmed for the benefit of
future Teaching Fellows!    

We were told that the resulting movie should help the future TF's 
"learn" how to teach a class of Harvard students, but, still, just think about
it, I mean, think about the irony of the entire situation!  Six white
males debating the cons and pros of racial and gender discrimination!
Ha, ha, ha!  Really, the situation was so comical, that I just had to
write this down. 

Regards,

Andrej
From: zoran@brillig.world (Zoran Duric)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Hohstapler (was Re: Crookedness)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:37:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In-reply-to: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu's message of 7 Apr 92 19:56:25 GMT

In article <16508@plains.NoDak.edu> malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:
   In article <1992Apr3.233643.10669@husc3.harvard.edu> benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic) writes:

   >2.  The word "hohstapler" is basically an anachronism.  Young people
   >    especially prefer to use the word "frajer" instead.


   naaah. In Belgrade, "frajer" is more of a "cool dude", but "hoshtapler" has
   apretty bad meaning (i.e. bad character). 

>>
In Bosnia (i.e. Sarajevo) it was the same. The word hohstapler was
used for those who were ready to lie, cheat or do ANYTHING to advance
their interests. In the article in question it was used because 
two Croat gentlemen who wrote the "dictionary" worked very hard to
prove that the Serbian and the Croatian are very different. In some cases
they used slang from either Serbian or Croatian in place of 
"correct" words (i.e. "keva" which is slang for mother in Serbian, 
altough the word used in Serbian is "majka").
>>

Regards,

Zoran
From: benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: JUST WONDERING . . .
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:15:34 GMT
 <1992Apr12.224223.11642@picasso.cssc-syd.tansu.oz.au> <1992Apr13.231602.27293@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr13.231602.27293@unixland.natick.ma.us> sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg) writes:
>
>Actually, this week, I did something that I was really hoping I wouldn't
>feel compelled to do here ... but I created a kill file for s.c.y. and
>put a couple of the most prolific posters in it. So I no longer see
>everything, although I do sometimes see their quotes that others respond to.

Big, bid deal!  In light of your "frequent" appearances on this newsgroup
and "thoughtful" contributions, I couldn't care less whether you've finally
mastered the technique of kill file "creation."

>I came here looking for information, to try to better understand what's
>going on in what was Yugoslavia. 

And you got it!  If you still can't understand that Slovenes, Croats, and
Serbs tend to have a love/hate relationship with each other, then you
should unsubscribe from "soc.culture.yugoslavia" altogether.

>Finally, as the war erupts in Bosnia-Herzegovina, threatening destruction
>and death on a scale even far worse than in Croatia, I am finding some of
>the juvenile rantings here almost grotesque. 

Well, what do you expect us to do?  As a Slovene I find it impossible to
sympathize with any of the sides involved in current fighting.  There 
are no angels in Bosnia.  People there have been killing each other for
centuries, and if that's what they like doing most, then they can have all
the fun they want to.

>I would be more interested to hear people's opinions on what, if anything,
>might be done to bring the fighting under control. 

Nothing can be done "to bring the fighting under control."  Don't you get it?
The Serbs and Croats are at war with each other!  They are fighting for the 
future borders of their countries.  The real losers in this conflict are the 
Muslims who will be most likely partitioned between Serbia and Croatia.

>Sharon Machlis Gartenberg

Regards,

Andrej
From: benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: JUST WONDERING . . .
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:03:08 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr12.163846.2593@eng.cam.ac.uk> 89ms1@eng.cam.ac.uk (M. Sablic) writes:
>
>most people do
>not have the energy or time for the kind of stuff that you and Nikola
>waste bandwidth with.
>
>Mladen

Oh, how romantic!  So that means that this IS, after all, a rather intimate
newsgroup for a number of staunch nationalists from Slovenia, Croatia and 
Serbia!  Mladene, welcome to the club!

Aaaah, yes!  As Shakespeare put it:  "We happy few, we band of brothers . . . " 


                                Y  O  U  !   


   J O I N   T H E   S O C . C U L T U R E . Y U G O S L A V I A   N O W ! 

               
                 U N C L E   T I T O   W A N T S   Y O U !


        B E C O M E   O N E   O F   T H E   F E W ,
                                    T H E   P R O U D ,
                                    T H E   S.C.Y.  R E A D E R S !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: cicic@cc.uow.edu.au (muris cicic)
Subject: Re: War Against Bosnia (VREME NDA 13.Apr 1992)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:42:56 GMT

malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:

>In article <QduXIFG00VogIDxntq@andrew.cmu.edu> na0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nenad Antonic) writes:
>>
>>	In this article, Milos Vasic et al. are equally accusing Serbian


I am not posting original, you can hopefully find it for yourself.  The
reason of my message is petition to all reasonable and wellmeant people :
PLEASE DONT CREATE KILL-FILE, DO READ THIS STUFF!!   Regardless of minor
mental suffering during the process, all of us should be enabled to recognise
the final outcome of Gebels's policy on "Yugo-arena": everybody is guilty,
tha facts are still unclear, YPA is to be blamed the most.  There are no
categories as humanity, honesty, truthfulness, and other bulshit, on Balkan.

Muris
From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: How sez Tesla is a Croat?
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:45:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16606
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <1992Apr9.045557.18871@watdragon.waterloo.edu> abrodnik@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Andrej Brodnik (Andy)) writes:
>In article <16511@plains.NoDak.edu> malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:
*) *) 
*) *) the right statement can be :
*) *) 
*) *) "Nikola Tesla is a Serb, who was born in the city that was given to Croatia
*) *) under KPJ and Tito regime, and note that those borders that were given by
*) *) KPJ and Croatian Tito were never recognized internationaly."
*) 
*) Can check the birth date of Nikola Tesla and the date when Tito came
*) in power? Or can you at least check a date when Tesla made that
*) statement?


that's the trick - When the borders were given, Tesla was dead.
When tesla was alive, there was NO "Croatia".



*) *) BTW, do you imp[ly that there was country named Croatia from the time
*) *) that Tesla was born? I thought it was Austro-Hungarian empire, but do
*) *) correct me if I am wrong, we all know that Croats are better Historian and
*) *) better Geographs then Serbs (that's how Serbs got screwed up in the first
*) *) place ;-)
*) 
*) It had to exist in some form (Croatia) since otherwise I see no reason
*) that Tesla would made such a statement.
*) 
*) LPA

That is if we accept that it is true that Tesla said so.


Nik
From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: US recognizes Croatia, Slovenia, and Bosnia-Hercegovina
Keywords: bubbles,congratulations
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:20:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16611
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <1992Apr8.053830.21285@wuecl.wustl.edu> victor@jezebel.wustl.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:
>
>  Congratulations to:
>
>	Croatia, Slovenia, and Bosnia-Hercegovina
>		for achieving recognition, as free and independent states,
>		from the United States of America
>		and the European Economic Community;
>	and the United States of America
>		for seeing the truth, and doing the right thing.
>Regards and felicitations,
>Victor


So, USA is in official war with Croatia.

cute.


Nik
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From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Opinion Poll (VREME NDA 13.Apr 1992)
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:35:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16731
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     "Vreme" News Digest Agency                      No. 29, April 13 1992.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Opinion Poll
    ------------


                   SHOULD ANTE MARKOVIC BE BROUGHT TO TRIAL?


    After rumours that the ex Yugoslav prime minister Ante Markovic would be
    nominated by a group of Croatian opposition parties to run for president
    of  the  Republic  of  Croatia,  "Globus",  the  Zagreb weekly asked 244
    Croatian  citizens to  comment on   this. One  hundred and  twenty eight
    (52.5%) out of the 244 polled said that "Ante Markovic should be brought
    to trial".

    When  asked whether  Ante Markovic  is at  all suitable  as a candidate,
    87.5% said  "no", 5.4% said "yes",  and the remainder had  no opinion on
    the matter.

    The last question inspired many  interesting answers. When asked whether
    Ante  Markovic  should  be  allowed  to  live  peacefully as an ordinary
    citizen, 46% said "no", 44.2% wouldn't accept the pogrom-like conception
    of democracy and said "yes", while  the remaining 9.8% had no opinion on
    the matter.

    Finally, it would be interesting to find out what Mr. De Michaellis, Mr.
    Markovic's good friend, thought of these questions and especially of the
    answers while reading  the afore mentioned magazine in  which the editor
    interviewed the Italian Minister.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     "Vreme" News Digest Agency                      No. 29, April 13 1992.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: abrodnik@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Andrej Brodnik (Andy))
Subject: Re: A SERIOUS QUESTION!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:44:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.010635.11065@husc3.harvard.edu> benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic) writes:
>
>
>So, what do you guys think?  Is anyone actually planning to return?  Or,
>are we all fated to stay abroad and continue blasting each other away on this
>newsgroup out of homesickness and frustration?

Me crazy and want returning home.

Andrej
From: predrag@isy.liu.se (Predrag Pucar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Army (VREME NDA 6.Apr 1992)
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:05:26 GMT
Reply-To: predrag@isy.liu.se
Organization: Linkoping University

In article 16475@plains.NoDak.edu, malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:
>
>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     "Vreme" News Digest Agency                       No. 28, April 6 1992.
>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
 
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
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>Narodnog Fronta 45/ VIII sprat. |               +38-11-642-743
>11000 Beograd, Srbija           |telefax   :    +38-11-657-454
>Yugoslavia                      |6 months subscription - 85 USD (airmail)
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>e_mail subscription              pirot@buengc.bu.edu
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As you can see Nikola it's possible to get a e-mail subscription  of the magazine,
so please stop posting the newspaper here on s.c.yu. What if we all started to post
our favorite newspaper, there is no point if anybody anyway can get it through
e-mail.

Thank you in advance.

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From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: JUST WONDERING . . .
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:04:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16783
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <1992Apr14.090743.21401@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> blazic@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC  Joseph R) writes:
>In article <16765@plains.NoDak.edu> malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.025840.13893@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> blazic@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC  Joseph R) writes:
>>
>>>I think it goes without saying that the sooner the Yugoslav Army dies, the 
>>>sooner there will be peace.
>>
>>I still think you are wrong in adressing the issue.
>>
>>
>>My point is that YNA should be simply transformed into Serbian Army,
>>with reliable people who do not shoot in their people's and soldiers back,
>>who are disciplined, well organized, and capable of stopping any criminal
>>activity within the army. of course, generals do not listen.
>
>It IS a Serbian army in everything but name.
	^^^^^^^^^^


NOT!

you can call it SPS's army, not Serbian. actually you offend all Serbs by
doing so.


>  And you see the result now
>in Bosnia where the army of the people is standing by while innocents get
>killed and expelled from their homes.


well in CRO they tried to act and stabilize (i.e. not stand by side when the
inncoent get killed...) but they were labeled as worst criminals. Now when
they learned the lesson from CRO, they are bastrds because they do not do
the very same thing they have been accused they should not have done in CRO?



IMHO, YNA has it's balls cut no matter what it does (Zika ZIvac je jedini
krivac... uvek kad banku obiju, Zika zaradi robiju... Zika Zivac je jedini
krivac.....) (yes this is a song by Bora Djordjevic, back in 1980's)

>Notice that is was Arkan's forces, i.e. well organized, loyal Serbian forces,
								^^^^^^^^^^^

they are not mine, hence there is at least one Serb who do not feel they are
his, hence they are not Serbian. maybe they are ethnic Serbs, but it is
another issue.


>who took over Zvnornik and are shooting in Sarajevo.  Not the undisciplined
>JNA (which are, however, displaying their 'unprofessionalism' in Mostar).


As I said, YNA should be reformed, but you are jumping into the
"dissentigration". I think there should be an Army in (ex)YU, but it should
not be driven by the 45years old principles (or whatever...)


>Regards,
>
>Joe Blazic
>blazic@ecf.toronto.edu


Nik
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From: 89ms1@eng.cam.ac.uk (M. Sablic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: A SERIOUS QUESTION!
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:05:06 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

benedejc@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrej Benedejcic) writes:


>Yes, this posting is a serious one, for a difference!

>I am just wondering, how many of the people who actually read this
>newsgroup and who are scattered in universities throughout North America
>and Europe actually plan on returning back to ex-Yugoslavia.

Hm. This is a nasty one. I ain't done my National Service yet and will probably
get a nasty letter in the post this summer since I can only get extensions
while my degree lasts and I do not plan to do a PhD.

Now, I can always pretend I never got it and stay in the UK doing a nice job
but I kinda like going home too much. You know the way it is...

Personally, I would prefer to go back home even with a lower pay etc.
but as you said the economic situation is very bad. Can you imagine
what it is doing to Tudjman's: reverse the demographic decline of
Croat population policy ?  I mean, people are leaving in larger
numbers than before.

My problem is: Am I stupid enough to join the Cro-Army and be stuck in
Gospic with mortars randomly paying a visit now and then for the next
ten months ? Would I come back in one piece ? What are the odds on the UN
mission,  1 in 10^100^100 ?

...Or stay in UK draft dodging and not see those nice bronzed bodies
each summer...hmm. You can't beat home made stuff...  But then again
all that convertible currency is just waiting to fill my pockets...

Any suggestions welcome!

>Regards,

>Andrej

Regards,

Mladen

P.S. That ultra-nationalist stuff is bad for your health. It is nice to
see you get off those hormones once in a while ;-)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: robger@intellistor.com (Robert Gerovski)
Subject: News Briefs
Organization: Intellistor, Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:58:15 GMT

Reprinted without permission.

"The Wall Street Journal," Tuesday, April 14, 1992

Fighting erupted in B-H undermining a cease-fire agreement
between rival ethnic groups and dimming chances of averting
all-out civil war in the former Yugoslav republic.
--
Robert Gerovski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: victor@jezebel.wustl.edu (Victor Wickerhauser)
Subject: Re: Money for Croatian Children
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 01:56:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.162007.24315@risky.ecs.umass.edu> curcija@medr0.ecs.umass.edu (Dragan Curcija) writes:
>	If it were for political reasons, even "dumping the communism"
>wouldn't be enough for present day rullers of Croatia to get a dime
>of American help.  Americans, as a nation, are equally disguisted by
>ANY political extremes, be it on the left, or on the right.  O.K.?

While I agree that Americans are repelled by political extremes, the actions
of the US government are driven largely by its leaders' perception of US
national interests.  Witness our aid to Afghanistan, which was channelled
through fervent muslim nationalists.  While Serbia continues to be dominated
by the Yugo Army and communists with their ideological baggage, then the US
government is unlikely to offer any sort of aid to Serbia.  Croatia might
continue to get aid just so they can weather the Yugo Army attacks.  It is in
our national interest for Croatia and Slovenia (and Bosnia-Hecegovina and
Macedonia) to survive after repudiating the old regime.

Regards,
Victor
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From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Emigrants and their political role in f
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:33:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16762
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <1992Apr14.030408.14031@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> blazic@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC  Joseph R) writes:
>In article <16735@plains.NoDak.edu> malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola V. Malenovic ) writes:
>>-> Tomislav Grgic (BUAD5070@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca)
>>-> 
>>-> p.s. - How do you like this one:
>>-> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>-> "Nedamo ni jedan pedalj hrvatske zemlje."
>>-> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>So it is true that there are few Ustashe left on this world.
>
>I guess by that token, then, it follows that indeed "all Croats are Ustasha".(?)


No NO NO NO NO NonO and again NO!

let me introduce to the conversation :

Grga> sve se placa sve se vraca
Dragan> maybe you are missing "Za dom spremni"
Grga> you are very good in adressing the issue Dragane
Nick> so there are few Ustashes left on this world.
Joe> I guess you want to say "All Croats are Ustashe"


get the picture? and again, my freind, you trying to put something on
my account to which I never reffered (actually it was me who wrote about
equations and proofs Germans<>Nazis, Croats<>Nazis, Ustasha "subset" Nazis,
etc....)

next time get the whole conversation and do the proper quoting,
before you turn like you are right.




>Regards,
>
>Joe Blazic
>blazic@ecf.toronto.edu


later malicious dude,


Nik
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe
From: scm@cs.brown.edu (Stanislav Markovic)
Subject: Re: JUST WONDERING . . .
Organization: Brown University, Department of Computer Science
	<1992Apr11.161948.10966@husc3.harvard.edu>
	<1992Apr14.153818.6955@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
	<SCM.92Apr14164819@hector.cs.brown.edu>
	<sdutx4G00Vp5AGFrcg@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<SCM.92Apr14235031@hector.cs.brown.edu>
	<Qdv6wBe00Voh8QqWVU@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:52:29 GMT

In article <Qdv6wBe00Voh8QqWVU@andrew.cmu.edu> na0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nenad Antonic) writes:

> 
> 	As a respond to my arguments, and the statement that
> the culprit for the present war should not be sought on the West,
> but in Serbia itself, Stanislav Markovic offers only `argumentum ad
> hominem'. 

However, a while earlier...

In article <Qdv6wBe00Voh8QqWVU@andrew.cmu.edu> na0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nenad Antonic) writes:

> 	And now we all have the war. For now, it's still only in other
> peoples' backyard, but it is approaching Serbia. And you are looking
> for the culprit in Western Governments. NO! 
> 
> 	You'd better look in the mirror.

Are those your "arguments"? My post that offended you so deeply is in
reply to that single sentence you wrote. That sentence is an insult of
the worst kind, completely unsubstantiated. You may very well argue
that what I wrote is just gossip, but your post is even on a lower
level.

Since you don't seem to think that you owe me an apology, I am
offering none either.

Stanislav
"and if you are Antoni\'c, then I am Markovi\'c"