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From: jill@mpd.tandem.com (Jill Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Another cat?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:41:14 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX
Originator: jill@bigben


I've been lurking for a while, and I've always loved cats, so last week I
went to down to the animal shelter and adopted a couple of cats.  
Now I'm looking for some advice.  

First, some background.  My original intention was to adopt two littermates.
I'm gone all day, and I thought it would be nice for each to have some
company.  But, things never seem to work out like I plan them.  :)  
I picked out Maggie first.  She was a tiny six-week old orange tabby kitten,
all alone in a big cage and yowling at the top of her lungs, "Let me out of
here RIGHT NOW!!"  I couldn't leave her there.  And then, I ran across
Abigail.  She's a really big (12lbs.!) gray tabby.  She's about seven years
old, they told me.   She was so friendly that I took her too.   We've all 
only been together for about a week.  Maggie spent the first 48 hours 
crying and sitting/playing/sleeping _on_ me whenever I was there, but 
now she's a little tornado.  Unfortunately, Abigail isn't interested in 
playing with her, and, as nearly as I can tell, Abigail stays under 
something (bed/sofa/desk) when I'm not there.  She is beginning to be a 
little more sociable, but nothing dramatic.  I didn't really expect her to 
be terribly playful, but I guess I didn't realize Maggie would have so 
much energy, and I don't want Maggie to be bored or lonely.

So now I'm thinking about getting another kitten, and I wanted to tap into
some of the wisdom out there.  First, is it possible that Abigail will 
warm up?  She will give the kitten a few licks when in close proximity, 
but that's about their only interaction.  (They're probably partying 
while I'm at work.  "Quick!  She's home! Act indifferent.")  There isn't 
any hostility except when the kitten tries to chase Abigail's tail, and 
that doesn't usually last long.  Am I over-reacting?  Am I worrying too 
much?  Do cats _get_ lonely? 

If I do get a third cat, should I get it now before everyone has settled
into their "territory", or should I wait and let the first two get
settled and comfortable before introducing a new friend?

And, are three cats sigificantly more trouble than two?  I know there will
increased vet and kitty food costs, but will two playful kittens get
into more trouble than one?  I know all this probably depends on the
particular cats, so I'm just looking for generalizations.

Sorry to be such a nervous mother.  :)
Thanks in advance,
Jill

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From: carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 06:49:13 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <186vg8INNhbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb771@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (S. Macfarland) writes:
>
>Lately my 4.5 month old long hair tuxedo has developed some
>kind of bathtub fetish. Any time I want to take a shower or
>bath, I have to first remove an assortment of milk bottle
>caps, spongy balls, socks, etc from the tub, and often the
>kitten himself. Anyone else experienced this? He's the first
>kitten I've had with this behavior!

Einstein does this, too - though doesn't collect toys in there.  I think
it's one of two things:
   1.  Either the slick surface of the tub is entertaining, or
   2.  The cool temperature of the tub is refreshing.

Beats me, otherwise.

Carter R. Bennett, Jr. - Scientist      No matter where you go...
carter@scilab.lonestar.org - home                 .../dev/tty!
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KI5SR
From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Looking for pet odor remover/neutralizer.
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:06:32 GMT
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Sep3.173146.9148@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow) writes:
> 
> 	Ok... So, after Vincent is done marking a spot repeatedly, how do I 	
> remove the odor?  I can use something like 'Simple Solution', but I want
> vincent's odor *GONE*....
> 
> 	Chemicals?  Solvents?  Fire?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Michael R. Dow
> -N1JCX-
> (...insert disclaimer...)
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:52:23 EDT
From: <MAF112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Blue eyed beauty

For those cat lovers living in Central, South-east Pennsylvania, I have a
bit of a dilemma on my hands. A close friend has dumped her new kitten off
at my apartment. She got the kitten eventhough she is not allowed to have
cats or dogs in her apartment (caged animals are ok). She had two rabbits
and the kitten got along beautifully with both and played with both. Then one
rabbit got very sick: a severe upper respiratory infection. The rabbit died
and my friend blames the new kitten. The kitten was at the vet just two weeks
ago to be spayed and vaccinated. She is showing no signs of illness whatsoever.
I must add that my friend does not take exceptionally good care of her pets.
We were keeping her kitten and healthy rabbit at our place while the other
rabbit was sick. The rabbit cage was so filthy that we discovered maggots
in it (yes, I know... eeeeeccccccchhhhhhhhhh!!!) When we told her, she didn't
seem surprised. She came to pick up her rabbit but she no longer wants the
kitten. We would keep her, but our female cat hates her.
If any of you know someone who would give her a loving home it would be
greatly appreciated.
She is a 7 mo old Siamese mix, cream and grey. Her points are faintly striped,
so is her tail. Her real beauty is her magnificent sky blue eyes. I mean:
MAGNIFICENT SKY BLUE EYES!
She is gorgeous. Rather quiet temperament, a real "purr-box".
She is spayed and has rabies and feline distemper vaccinations good thru 9/93.
She is a must see.
Reply email to maf112@psuvm.psu.edu or tci100@wilbur.psu.edu or
call 867-1237.
                            Thanks in advance.
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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<67744@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1992Sep10.174008.25169@webo.dg.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:18:37 GMT

stan@etgn05.rtp.dg.com (Stan Yen) writes:

     Drawing at Audience: pushing aside the shower curtain to find two
			  kitties sitting patiently waiting for the show.
			  "Hey!  What are *you* looking at?!"

When my cats do this, I call it their "I like to watch" act.  :-)

When I climb into the shower, they get this peculiar expression on
their faces, as if to say: "EEEUWWW!  Look, she's DELIBERATELY going
to stand underneath the GIANT SQUIRT BOTTLE!!!  If she wants to get
clean, why doesn't she just use her TONGUE like us NORMAL people?!?"

-Sandra
From: madhav@cs.albany.edu (MadHav Vishnu Marathe)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Looking for help with cat that throws up
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:28:15 GMT
Reply-To: 11krichardso@gallua.bitnet
Distribution: rec
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Originator: madhav@watson.albany.edu

I have a tabby that's about 8 years that has a tendency to gorge himself
and then throw up. The behaviour is actually kind of sporadic. He'll do 
it a lot for a few days and then will be fine for weeks. I took him to two
vets when this began (about 7 years ago). One offered no advice. The other
gave me a cat version of Pepto-bismol. I have changed foods and he is
clearly more sensitive to sliced or morsel versions of canned foods. Dry
food is right out. He is otherwise healthy and playful, constantly trying
to sneak outside to play. I have recently seen another vet who has
suggested something which I am currently trying but I thought I would see
if anyone out there has been in a similar situation and has other comments.
He dosen't seem to have worms either.

Thanks.

Joseph Richardson
(Please send email to 11krichardso@gallua.bitnet. I've set the Reply-to:
but just double-check. Thanks.)
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Dry Food
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:50:04 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi,
  My sister says that one of my cats, Bandit, is fat because I feed him dry
  food.
  She claims that the dry food blows up in his stomach when he drinks his
  water.
  Any ideas on this notion?
  thanks,
  peace,
  laura


  
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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:18:19 GMT

In article <20124@drutx.ATT.COM> bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham) writes:
>
>Actually, that brings up an interesting question:  What do they hear?
>
>When I first got Fletch, it didn't take me long to learn that he knew
>what hungry meant.  After I figured that out, I remembered hearing
>somewhere that cats only understand the first syllable of any word,
>so I did an experiment:  I asked Fletch if he was "Well Hung?"
>He claims that he is. :-)
>
>So, if you have a cat that understands a multi-syllable word, try just the
>first syllable of what word, and check the reaction.
>
And this leads me to ask when kittens finally learn to recognize
their name?  My kittens Hobbit and Tribble do not respond to their
names yet, even though I'm constantly using their names. I've had
them 2.5 weeks now. I'm already thinking of changing their names
to things that are now more appropriate. BTW, I love the name Thud
which someone else mentioned a few posts ago.

Kitten antics: part 1:

Tribble climbs leg to get closer to the tuna fish salad I'm preparing.
Fortunately I'm wearing jeans. She also last night started visiting
the top of the table while I'm eating dinner. She would reappear a
few moments later even after I shooed her off. She is also very
flighty. Last night she was sound asleep in a very uncomfortable
looking position: On her stomach with front paws in the sphinx 
position with her rear legs completely stretched out behind her.

Hobbit carries Aluminum foil ball around in mouth. She used to climb
onto the top of my stereo via the cd rack via the sofa. Until she
fell off the cd rack and knocked half a row of cds onto the floor.

This morning I discovered 3 ping pong balls in the tub. Still not
sure how they managed to get them into the tub on the top level of
my townhouse from the basement.

Enough for now.

Steve
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Catproof kitchen !!
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:38:57 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <lasuk7INNmt9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> andrewr@ultrix.EBay.Sun.COM (Andrew Roach) writes:
>
>	   Our 12 week old siamese is a kitchen closet raider !!!!

<Deleted interesting stuff about mischievous kittens discovering that kitchen 
 cabinets are fun.  DON'T LET YOUR CATS READ THAT SORT OF STUFF OVER YOUR
 SHOULDER!!  It might give them ideas.  :-) >

>  Now the question is: Are Siamese sparter that other breeds ? or is this one
>  gifted ? or are the two ASH's just dumb (after all in 6 months they'd not
>  managed to get in even once.
>
>  Anyway all the doors now have kiddie locks and the cats are once again safe
>  from the nasty stuff that lurks beneath sinks etc

Sheba (intelligent, mixed breed) discovered that her dry food was kept in 
the cabinet under the sink. (It took 3 years to figure this out.  Or 3 years 
to decide that food is fresher straight from the bag.)  I kept hearing
cabinet doors clunking in the middle of the night and eventually caught her
sitting in the cabinet happily eating from a bag SHE opened.  I used magnets
on the inside of the doors to keep her out (although this wouldn't work with
a REALLY determined cat!).

Kinda (idiot savant, mixed breed) has yet to figure out how to open kitchen
cabinets, despite her sister's example.  Closet doors (bifold) are another
story...

Rene
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From: ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Sachia doesn't like bare skin
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:48:14 GMT

In article <4980@calmasd.Prime.COM> mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello) writes:

   One more thing I should have added about Sachia's
   disdain for bare skin...

   She has no objection to curling up on Peter's legs when he's
   wearing shorts.  It may be because he's furry, too.

I have fairly furry legs, and our cat won't sit on my lap if I'm wearing
shorts unless I can pull them down far enough that she has plenty of room
to sit without touching bare skin. I have no idea why some cats refuse to
sit on bare skin, but ours is like that, too...
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From: dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Diane Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Bird Toy, was Re: What we say; what cats hear
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:39:11 GMT
Organization: Business Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

cwaite@opal.tufts.edu writes:

>There's one word my cat Oz knows besides his name (which took him a long time
>to learn): bird!  His absolutely favorite toy is like a fishing pole with a
>feathered thing at the end of the line with flutters around like a bird.  If I
>ask him if he wants his bird he'll get all excited and chirp at me.  Because I
>thought he might be listening to my intonation rather than the word,
I've tried
>asking him in different ways and he still seems to respond to the work "bird".
>By the way, I have to keep it hidden and very securely out of his reach or
>he'll demolish it.  My other kitties (Albert, Gellis and Ms. P) like the bird
>too but not as much as Oz;  it's the only way I can rid him of his excess
>energy.

Suki loves her bird too, but she doesn't know the word.  She just comes
running whenever she hears THE CLOSET DOOR open.  She will even sit and
stare at THE CLOSET, looking plaintively at me periodically.  (I too
have to keep it hidden.)

Diane and Suki
Carnegie Mellon University
From: 2huthijack@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Test, please ignore
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:07:49 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


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From: stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman)
Subject: carrots??!
Originator: stuart@mingus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:58:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA


Well, at the risk of boring everyone with another "peculiar cat behavior"
story, I wanted to run something by this group, not just to share my own
cat experience (which isn't really any more "special" than anyone else's
experiences), but to seek any possible information that may shed some
light on this particular cat quirk.

Now, I've had several cats as pets (plus been around friends' cats) over 
a period of some 25 years, and I'm used to an assortment of odd idiosyncra-
cies in various cats (the sort of things that have probably been mentioned
here dozens of times). But this one is a first for me, and it involves my 
own cat. She's an adult female Maine Coon Cat that I've had for I guess
about 6 or 7 years now. The other day, I was sitting around watching tv
and munching a raw carrot. As she often does, she wandered over toward me 
to check out what I was eating, and I routinely let her sniff at it (she's
always been very curious, but unlike many cats, she's content to simply
identify "human" foods by scent, without actually trying to taste or eat 
them). This time, I noticed that she was particularly intrigued by the scent 
of the carrot (she's the same way about ink on the tip of a writing pen,
another puzzle to me). Anyway, she REALLY seemed interested in the carrot
as I sat there chomping away on it, so when I'd finished all but the very 
stub end of it, I put it down on the floor next to her, and she went nuts.
Not eating it, but going into one of those catnip-like frenzies, rolling 
all over the floor, rubbing her head against the carrot end, pawing at it 
playfully. And she kept this up for quite a while, longer even than she
does with catnip (which she really likes). Later my wife grated a little
carrot onto a dish and gave it to her to see if she actually wanted to eat
it, but her reaction was the same: rubbing herself against the dish, going
into another ecstatic floor flop. We have another younger female cat of
the same breed, but she wasn't the slightest bit interested.

I've never encountered this reaction to carrots. Is there something in them 
that strikes feline senses in the same way as other plants/herbs in the mint 
family? 
                                    -stuart@apollo.hp.com

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From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Fruit treats
Organization: Motorola
Date: 15 Sep 1992 10:56:54 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
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From: ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Veggie treats
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:24:46 GMT

In article <EegAUIC00WBOA3Od57@andrew.cmu.edu> Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.ed

   >My six-month old has developed a fondness for green beans and carrots.
   >I give him maybe two beans every other day as a treat. Any harm in
   >this?  ... So any problems with allowing him vegetables?

   I think vegetables are an ideal treat, if the cat will eat them.  When a
   previous cat of mine (RIP) was on medication that made her hungry all
   the time, the vet suggested we put out vegetables for her to eat between
   meals -- to give her something to nibble and keep her from getting too
   fat.  We found she liked canned Veg-All, so she got some every day.

   Good way to keep your kitty thin and happy,

Our cat *loves* all manner of vegetables. Green beans, carrots, corn
especially. However, once our cat was diagnosed with FUS, the vet says
no more veggies except carrots (which, unfortunately, is her least
favorite). Anybody else had experience with veggies and FUS cats? If
FUS cats get by eating veggies out cat will be ecstatic...



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Are there any out there that eat fruit?  My cat loves grapes,
bananas, melon, strawberries.  About the grapes, you have to break
them open and hold one half and he licks it until there is just the
skin left and then he eats the skin!! He does eat other weird things
for a cat, french fries, potatoe chips. Will this hurt him??  josette
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From: hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)
Subject: Help!  New Kitten.....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:20:56 GMT

Well, since moving into a new apartment, my roommate has gotten
an eight week old kitten from the humane society.  She is very cute, 
but......she bites.  She never bites my roommate, she just sucks on her
earlobe.  But she likes to bite my fingers, and recently, my leg.  I
think she may be teething, but I don't know about ages or anything for 
that sort of stuff.  How can I stop her?  I've tried first pulling my
hand away with a loud "no!" but she thinks it's a game.  Now I've tried
ejecting her from the room with a loud "No!"  My door is always kept
closed when I'm not home so she doesn't get into my fish tank, so
she likes to go in there whenever I'm there to explore the "Forbidden Place".
Whenever the squirt bottle is around (useful for getting her out of the
plants), I just spray her with that and she stops.....until she comes
up for more.  I'm starting to get fed up with her, and I'm afraid that
unless I stop it, she'll do this with other people.  It's hard for
my roommate to correct her, cuz she's usually not home when it happens.

This is my first real experience with a kitten, I've always raised dogs
before.  I figured I'd post here, since I realize that the same training
techniques won't work for both dogs and cats.....

-Lisa
Mommy to TJ, Warlock, and Auntie Lisa to Quendy
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Names...
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:03:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <8ecclIS00YV7M6J59k@andrew.cmu.edu> dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Diane Gibson) writes:
>On the subject of cat names, wasn't it T.S. Elliott who wrote about
>cat's having many names.  I often think of that as my dear little Suki
>has "given me" a nickname for her.  I started calling her "Doodle Bug",
>out of the blue one day.  I have no idea where it came from or why I
>started calling her that, but it stuck.  I have to assume it is the name
>SHE wants me to use (yes, she is a wierd cat and would like a name like
>that.....)
>
>Diane and Suki Doodle Bug
>Carnegie Mellon University

Hemingway (so named becaus of his calm demeanor when I first got him) has
been going through the cat name evolution process as well.  As he got more
familiar with his surroundings and began getting into more mischief, he
became, affectionately, "Booger" (like Doodle Bug, a word I never use and
would never have thought to begin calling any living creature...).  Now
that he has reached the full-blown, chase any moving object, chase any
stationery object, make strange noises in the middle of the night kitten
stage, I have added the title "Mike Tyson" because he boxes at things with
his paws, and occasionally "Pele" as well, because he's quite good at
dribbling a rolled-up piece of paper across the hardwood floors like a
soccer ball.  Hence, one could say his full name is Hemingway Booger Mike
Tyson Pele...but still 'Ming for short.

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From: delphine@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Delphine Au)
Subject: Are humans able to get fleas? 
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:27:15 GMT

I have a cat, and he has fleas.  I can see them.  They are
tiny, about the size of a pin head, and they jump very high
and far.

I have tried many things to get rid of them, but doesn't work.

My question is: Would I be able to catch these fleas?

I am very nervous about this.  Please email responese if possible.

Thank You

Delphine Au
 
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