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From: aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan)
Subject: NDAs (was Re: LOOK, CBM ...)
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:00:38 GMT

From article <34172@cbmvax.commodore.com>, by daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie):
 
> knowledge", they are in fact breaking their NDA.  The NDA agreements generally
> hold you to silence until C= officially takes the lid off, no matter who else
> talks about anything possibly covered by the NDA.  Keep in mind that, to the

I just ferretted out a NDA on the subject of "The V1.4 Project", and in
clause 4 it mentions that it remains in place for 5 years of any
disclosure made by C=, except for that information that 
a) is or becomes public without your fault
b) is or becomes lawfully known to you other than from C= or someone
else's breach of NDA
c) IS APPROVED IN WRITING BY C= FOR RELEASE.

Question : has anyone seen a (c), and to what extent does public sale
imply (a) ?

Allan Duncan	ACSnet	 a.duncan@trl.oz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: WSJ Article  -- CBM is dying? : -)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:06:53 GMT

In <jbono.02r5@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:

>BEFORE some imbecile comes up and screams about how CBM is going down the tubes
>because of an unexpected 4th qtr loss, I am going to post some of the comments
>made in the WSJ article which commented on the loss.
> 
>"Commodore . . . sells the majority of its consumer oriented computers in
>Europe, making its dollar-stated results notoriously hard to predict."
> 
>"Analysts agreed that Commodore could rebound, citing good potential for new
>models of its Amiga personal computer, as well as some novel handheld
>products."

 Handheld products?  Interesting...

 So is Commodore going back to making Calculators?

 Or is this an Amigaboy?

 Ohwell, doesn't matter.  They'll never see the light of day.

>So  B E F O R E people start screaming about how the sky is falling and CBM is
>going to go bankrupt in two weeks, I am posting this  in the vain hope that
>someone will actually read it, and not post another "CBM is Dying" msg.
> 
>John

 Oh I don't know.  It'd take more than two weeks just to file the papers.
I'd give them at least a year. :-)

 But I am curious about these new models.

 I saw the Amiga ad in Byte this month.  Somewhat impressive.  Price tag
was very high.

Speaking of high prices...
 I've been reading a lot in the DEC magazines about the new Alpha PC,
and Windows NT.  Supposedly DEC will be showing off there system this
fall, should be interesting.  Heh, 5 times the speed of a 486DX-50, with
an appropriate price tag I'm sure.  They mentioned a $6000 upgrade to
the current DEC 50 Mhz EISA machines, I believe.



-- 
Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu
Iowa Cooperative Soil Survey Resource Unit
2142 Agronomy, Iowa State University  (515) 294-5429
From: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: anonymous ftp->zmodem
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:18:03 EST
Reply-To: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Can somebody post an anonymous FTP stie that has the source to Zmodem
(SZ and RZ).  Thanks.  Or if it's compile for a Sun, that would be fine
also.  Thanks in advance!

  --Jeff
jeff.ruck@channel1.com
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: comp.sys.amiga.reviews dead? Where's my Japnese reveiw?    ...
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:10:16 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Aug21.145722.58315@cc.usu.edu>, slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> 
>> BTW, the moderator for comp.sys.amiga.reviews hasn't replied to my
>> mail or posted the Japanese system review yet but I'm sure he's
>> swamped so everyone that keeps writing hold on to your britches for a
>> little longer or e-mail me for a chat.  I don't want to have to
>> rewrite the review and see the old one posted the next day but I'll
>> give you some genereal info if anyone needs it until the review gets
>> posted. 
>> -- 
>> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
> 
> 
> If you look really closely, you might just see that there is no longer
> a comp.sys.amiga.review newsgroup.
> 
> 						--Travis Carter
> 						  slbfn@cc.usu.edu

Our site here at University of Kansas still allows me to select it
under news (vms) and simply states that the newsgroup is empty.  I
read a review in there sometime this summer so I'm sure it was up for
real until recently.  Perhaps the (ex-)moderator would care to reply
on the status of the group.
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Life Happens?
From: tarquin@athena.mit.edu (Robert P Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: xpkmaster.library -- where do I find it?
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:19:11 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


The title pretty much says it all... I have a piece of software which,
unfortunately, insists that the xpkmaster.library be present EVEN IF you don't
intend to use any of its compression capabilities.  Ack.  I have no clue where
to begin looking for xpkmaster.library, and the author of the software in
question didn't think to provide it (!!!), so I am S.O.L. until I DO find it.
Since most of these libraries are archived as something besides what their
normal filename is, what file should I look for, and what FTP sites should I
try?  Archie is not helpful at ALL.
--
Robert P. Poole                       tarquin@athena.mit.edu
46 Massachusetts Avenue               MIT Course VIII
311C Bexley Hall                      "I feel like a lost sock in the
Cambridge, MA  02139                   laundromat of oblivion."
From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: WSJ Article
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:33:40 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

BEFORE some imbecile comes up and screams about how CBM is going down the tubes
because of an unexpected 4th qtr loss, I am going to post some of the comments
made in the WSJ article which commented on the loss.
 
"Commodore . . . sells the majority of its consumer oriented computers in
Europe, making its dollar-stated results notoriously hard to predict."
 
"Analysts agreed that Commodore could rebound, citing good potential for new
models of its Amiga personal computer, as well as some novel handheld
products."
 
"This is certainly a huge disappointment, but it isn't the end of the world for
Commodore," [according to Ronald Opel at Fechtor, Detwiler & Co.]

"`There's a lot more upside to the stock than there is downside.  It's just
smart to wait and see whether the momentum can snap back.'"[according to Steve
Eskenazi of Alexander Brown & Sons Inc.]
 
So  B E F O R E people start screaming about how the sky is falling and CBM is
going to go bankrupt in two weeks, I am posting this  in the vain hope that
someone will actually read it, and not post another "CBM is Dying" msg.
 
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl)
Subject: amiga perl anywhere?
Summary: looking for amiga perl
Keywords: perl amiga uncorrupted
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:42:55 GMT

I am looking for perl for amiga.  I have seen the aperl30.zoo from
wuarchive, but that one seems to be corrupted when I receive it.

Are there any later versions available?  And where?  (preferably
with a full path name, we are protected from ftp by our site).
From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Is there awk for Amiga somewhere?  We know about perl now...
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:27:57 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu's message of 20 Aug 92 21:56:43 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Aug 92 21:56:43 GMT, jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu said:

jamiller> It's good to see that perl's getting so far, but is there an awk
jamiller> release floating around somewhere?

site:
wuarchive.wustl.edu

file:
/systems/amiga/programming/utilities/gawk21.lzh

It is the GNU version of the awk programming language.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:12873 comp.sys.amiga.tech:54
From: nicholas@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech
Subject: Re: using RAD: drive with extended memory
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:06:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax.1992Aug19.190643.1
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <1992Aug19.015322.19313@cs.mun.ca>, thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy) writes:
> <TEW105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>>Ok, I have a GVP Series II 030/22 with 5 megs of ram (1 meg surface,
>>1 4 meg 32-bit simm) in a 2000 with 2.04.  all of the memory on the
>>board cannot be used as autoconfig (I would have to buy 4 more megs of memory
>>for that, so I might as well buy a hard drive and then I wouldn't need a
>>stinking RAD: would I :) 
>>This causes a little problem with the RAD: drive; it doesn't recover (so
>>whats the point, eh?)  
> 
> Gee, I have the same setup and have NO problem creating a RAD: and having
> it survive reboot (Though I am under 1.3).
> 
> Thomas
> 
When I first bought my 3000 it had an earlier version of the 
os...version 36.something I believe.  Anyway RAD: wouldn't survive a 
reboot, so I used 1.3.  Now I have a better/newer version of 2.0 
37.67 and RAD: survives.  Which version do you have?  Maybe it is 
just older?
Later Dude, Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William F Bennett)
Subject: Re: Corrupt DMS archives? NOT?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:07:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.010759.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writ
es:
>I am having troubles unpacking files with DMS.
>
>I have DMS 1.11 which is (according to what I can find) the latest
>version.  I just downloaded two files that I have been eagerly
>awaiting which were packed with DMS.  As always, I -did- use
>binary mode on my transfers.  The download appeared clean.  I
>have NO trouble with -any other- archive types.  These two files
>gave the exact same error I ALWAYS get when I try to unpack DMS
>files:
>
>Can't find Info Header.  Invalid DMS Archive.
>
>Fatal Error!
>
>------------------------
>
>Terry   ==> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
>

Terry,
          I had a similar problem with the DMS111.sfx file. I tried all sorts 
of variants of extraction methods. To no avail. So I thought that I may have 
ftp'd it wrong so I went back to the ftp site (not sure which one) to reftp it.
There I found both a DMS111.sfx and a dms111.sfx. I DL'd both and found that 
the lower case version worked but the caps version didn't. Check your ftp site 
again for the lower case version. (BTW for all those ready to pounce on me I
_do_ realize that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with caps files and that
this is an isolated corrupt file.)
-- 
*******************************************************************************
Bill Bennett              Dept of Radiology           The Ohio State University

*********************  wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  ********************
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: DirWorks 1.62 seems to hate my floppies...
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:05:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington


Has anyone had trouble with DW1.62??

I have tried to MOVE multiple files to a floppy in EITHER drive and have
FREQUENTLY (though not always)  gotten a "write error on block 880".

It is always the SAME block - 880.
It matters NOT which drive I use.
It matters NOT which floppy I use.   
It kills the floppy completely so that when I try to reinsert it into the
drive to check it, I get the disk icon and   :NDOS  under it.


I have also had the SAME ERROR with the SAME BLOCK #880 when I attempted to
extract the ICON.LZH files from the FISH collection.  These files contain
scripts that automatically unarc to floppy to create a demo disk...

If I use DW anywhere in the unarc'ing process, it kills my floppy the same
way as a MOVE multiple files does.

A game called HOW.LZH likewise cannot be unarc'ed to floppy, nor can its 
extracted files be MOVED to a floppy with giving me an :NDOS floppy.
 

Any clues on this?  Have others had the same problem with that block number??
Can this affect my harddrive if that block number is ever left vacant on it
for DW to get its claws into? 

I am referring to 1.62 version only.

Thank you,
Crystal
  ;>

 
System is: A2000, 2.04, 1M-Agnus/2M-Fast (if this makes a difference)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: johnl@crash.cts.com (John Lindwall)
Subject: Re: World of CBM, Pasadena
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:44:41 PDT

In article <170q22INN3s4@network.ucsd.edu> simon@ivem.ucsd.edu (Simon Lee) writes:
>
>Can anyone post details about the upcoming World of Commodore show.
>Are there any brochures or flyers out there?
>

For the last few months the Amiga magazines have have ads on the show.  Here's
the info:

Sept 11-13, 1992
At the Pasadena Center, 300 East Green St, Pasadena, CA.
Open 10am-5pm on the 11th and 12th.  Open noon-5pm on the 13th.
Registration: $15 for one day, $30 for three days.

---
John Lindwall                                    johnl@crash.cts.com
"...always use the formal attribute mechanisms for changing any field;
do not poke the objects." -- Jim Mackraz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hoefling@sp28.csrd.uiuc.edu (Jay Hoeflinger)
Subject: A1010 pass-thru hack
Organization: /homes/hoefling/.organization
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:25:12

I have just found out that some A1010 drives (external 3.5" floppy drives)
have the pass-thru function disabled.  I was also told that there was
a hack for re-instating the pass-thru function.

Can anyone tell me what that hack is?

I have replaced my original power supply with a hefty one, so 
there shouldn't be any power problems with adding a new drive.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Jay Hoeflinger
hoefling@csrd.uiuc.edu

Center for Supercomputing Research and Development, Compiler Group
U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
(217) 244-0288

--
Jay Hoeflinger
hoefling@csrd.uiuc.edu

Center for Supercomputing Research and Development, Compiler Group
U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
(217) 244-0288
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: CBM layoffs
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:04:16 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

Look guys,
           by now you should have CBM (mis-) management figured out!  It seems
that every time a project is completed, CBM dumps most of the technical people
involved in the project.  Yes, I realize that this is a very short-sighted policy,
but it is NOT new.  At CBM there seems to be very little management level planning
for product improvement.  The technical folks do their best, but the bosses decide
what gets sold (as they should, I just wish they would do a better job at it.)
They seem to just throw the product out the door (and hope that it sells itself.)
(In fact, they remind me of a former supervisor of mine.  He was reported to have
said publicly that "planning ahead is stupid.")

Anyway, given that CBM management has been doing this for years, there is little
need for hundreds of postings flaming CBM for doing it again.  The management
people aren't listening to you.  You are just wasting bandwidth and effort.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
From: jbellanc@pdrome.UUCP (James Bellanca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Workbench 2.1
Date: 10 Aug 92 22:23:44 GMT
Organization: The PowerDrome BBS [(716)825-3614 CNet]

I know what the 2.1 is...I also know that it IS diskbased and there is also a
2.1 ROM as well, though it is NOT needed to use the 2.1 software.  The 2.1 will
be shipped in the new A4000, and possibly in the other new machine that'll take
the place of the 2000.  In spring, OS3.0 SHOULD be available that will really
make this machine somethign really new & unique.  Any more questions?

----> James M. Bellanca <-

Email TO:
          aquarium!pdrome!jbellanc@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:09:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug14.220941.770
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Well, I was talking about the A570, which is for the A500.  Other
 > solutions (like ram loaded libraries) are certainly possible for
 > machines with a hard drive and enough ram.

I understand that and was attempting to get us A2000 and A3000 users into
the CDROM picture.  It's amazing technology with barely scratched potential
and it's expensive enough that it seems most useful for systems that are
not entry level machines as many A500s are.  I know that I can add a SCSI
CDROM drive to my A3000 and it will work just fine.  It will not run the
CDROM disks that require CDXL, such as NASA's 25 Years.  There needs to be
a solution to this problem as partial compatibility with a standard device,
such as CDTV, is a royal pain in the rear that will inhibit CDROM usage on
the A2000/3000 computers.  I think that CDTV softwar edevelopment will
suffer unless lots of Amiga users can be convinced to add CDROM drives to
their machines, buy software, and inject enough cash into CDROM software
development to drive that business.  Any idea whether CBM has interest in
licensing the CDXL technology?  That would help end a lot of the problems
associated with CDROM disks that require CDXL to operate correctly or at
all for that matter.  Thanks for the reply,


Regards,


*======================================================================*
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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: JAM info on A570 & A2200/A2400 (public info!)
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>
> > An '020 is about 75% of the speed of an '030.

A 68020 is more like 95% of the speed of a 68030 in real
software use *AS LONG AS THERE IS NO MMU* attached.  The 68020 has
the MMU external and this causes a full wait state for each memory
access.  In real code, the data cache of the 68030 makes rather little
difference (it does may some difference) and the sligbtly different timings
of the instructions are also rather small.  I am sure that some test cases
will show that a 68030 is much faster than a 68020 but then test cases are
not the norm usually and in normal operation it is only a 5% (+/- a bit)
difference.

Now, with an MMU, the 68030 can be *much* faster than a 68020 with MMU.
Depending on the memory system, this can be as much as 33%.

/----------------------------------------------------------------------\
|      /// Michael Sinz  -  Senior Amiga Systems Engineer              |
|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
|    ///   BIX:  msinz      UUNET:  mks@cbmvax.commodore.com           |
|\\\///    "A master's secrets are only as good as the                 |
| \XX/      master's ability to explain them to others" - Michael Sinz |
\----------------------------------------------------------------------/
From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:16:28 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat Software

In article <w71vr*SO0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <34180@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Andy Finkel writes:
>
>> It wouldn't work on most of the A500s out there without additional expense,
>> then.  Also, its slightly tricky to put a rom for the 256K of the CDTV OS
>> on a SCSI port.
>
>Why not a piggyback board for the ROM (and supporting circuitry and jumpers)
>and an arbitrary external SCSI CD-ROM drive?
>
>
>                                                Jim Pritchett

As I said, its slightly tricky; you couldn't just plug it into
the SCSI port.  You'd also have to deal with getting subcode data over
the SCSI bus; something that most SCSI CDROM drives don't seem to
handle.  And, as SCSI on an A500 requires a SCSI controller, your
end cost would be pretty high as conpared to the A570.

			andy

-- 
andy finkel		{uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy

"A new release is where old bad assumptions are replaced by new
 bad assumptions."

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
From: bytey@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Chris Hames)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: DW171 (DirWork 1.71) is a TROJAN -- DO NOT USE!
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: bytey@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Chris Hames)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

I have heard reports of a file appearing on BBS's called DW171.lha that is
described as a directory utility but is instead a dangerous trojan virus.
So this message is to warn people that there is no DirWork version 1.71 and
never will be as I will skip that version.   The latest version of
DirWork is 1.62.

Any information about the #$?#?# idiot who is behind this would be
appreciated so legal action can be taken.   It really is a shame that the
Amiga users have to put up with such stupidity.

-- 
Chris Hames
Internet: bytey@werple.pub.uu.oz.au               FidoNet: 3:633/353
PC-Task 1.11     DirWork 1.62     Degrader 1.10    VMK 1.10

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