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From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Doug Puchalski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:49:23 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Nov13.151227.29010@wam.umd.edu>, loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup) writes:

>The keywords here are "Les Paul."  I don't think your friend's guitar was
>easier to play because it had slightly lighter strings, but because it was
>a Les Paul.

Yeah, remember that Les Paul's are a smaller scale than strats, so you'll
have less string tension for a given gauge.

-- 
Doug Puchalski       You have the right to your opinion, even though it's wrong
drp40@cd.amdahl.com	        My opinions are my own, and are fact, of course
dpuchals@engin.umich.edu                                   Death to all smileys
From: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: FAQ Request
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology


		Could someone out there please send me the alt.guitar FAQ?

	I'm specifically looking for the section on Pickups, as I want to buy
some new ones.

	-fieldfresh-
        --------------------------------------------------------------
        	c  h  r  i  s   l  o  s  i  n  g  e  r   r  i  t
From: N.J.Dixon@bradford.ac.uk (NJ DIXON)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: IT BITES info wanted
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:26:58 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90468713@ginger
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Can anyone tell me who was the guitarist in It Bites?
I think he plays Fernandes guitars?

(I ask because I could win a competition here)

Thanx,

Nick Dixon (N.J.Dixon@bradford.ac.uk)
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From: caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:24:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


ajm@iconix.oz.au (Andrew Mack) writes:

>Hi netters,

>Does it make any sense if I mention something called the "Steve Vai ten
>hour guitar workout" ?? I've heard vague things about it and I think it
>appeared in one of the guitar mags .. Guitar World maybe. Anyone have a
>reference, or better, have it online?

I have it in a guitar magazine so it does exists, and you correctly titled
it.  I think it is silly and frivolous.  It's essentially 20 pages of 4
exercises.  The reason it is so long is because they're all chromatic 
exercises.  For example, the Annoying Chromatic Position Change Exercise:

-1-2-3-4------------------------------------------
---------1-2-3-4----------------------------------
-----------------1-2-3-4--------------------------
-------------------------1-2-3-4------------------
---------------------------------1-2-3-4----------
-----------------------------------------1-2-3-4--

and after that they'd have

-2-3-4-5-------------------------------
---------2-3-4-5-----------------------
-----------------2-3-4-5---------------
-------------------------2-3-4-5-------
---------------------------------2-3-4-5

I think they would have saved many a tree if they just PUT:

-(x)-(x+1)-(x+2)-(x+3)------------------------
------------------------(x)-(x+1)-(x+2)-(x+3)-

etc etc.  But then, playing guitar does not a mathematician make. :)


Then I think they had the shapes of the modes played in every key, and such.
It's better to create your OWN exercises based on individual weaknesses and
compile your own "ten-hour workout."  I have a lot of exercises classified
by that which they .exercise. - like "Advanced Legato Technique" and "Hand-
Over-Hand 8-Finger Legato," etc.  I can type some up if people want..

-jq

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From: drf40@cd.amdahl.com (Daryl Fortney)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:08:50 GMT
Reply-To: drf40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA


	There any guitars out there that have frets positioned after the
neck pickup?  I mean, I understanfd that the neck pickup wouldn't work for
these frets, but the bridge pickup would, and you could get some serious highs.

-- 
Daryl Fortney 
drf40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 22:14:05 EST
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Identifying a Les Paul
 <1992Nov19.130722.27988@ousrvr.oulu.fi>

Well, I can't help you with the date or anything, but I
can tell you that I have the same guitar.  I bought it
about 1 month ago.  Black. gold hardware, trap inlays, studio.
I got mine new for $565 and I assume that was good.  Let
me know what you find out.  Thanks.

                        Derek

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Re: Gibson Questions (ES 125T value)
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Distribution: World
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:26:30 GMT

In this area (Lower Peninsula of Michigan) any guitar in the
ES 125 family sells in the neighborhood of $300 - $525. I
have a ES 125 with one P-90 pickup, non-cutaway, thick body.

I think it is an amazing guitar. It has a real mellow, sweet
sound. Good for Jazz, Country and Rhythm guitar work.

Whatever you do, DON'T hot-rod this instrument by putting
a humbucker or some non-original pickup on it. If you do
the prices I quoted above will be cut in half.

--
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= Gerald Ross
=
=     ...It's 1992.  So where's my jetpack?
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From: jkemp@bss1.umd.edu (Joe Kemp)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: EvenFlow Tab
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:47:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Behavioral and Social Sciences, U of Maryland

In article <BxH2Kz.84J@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens) writes:


>       A friend was wondering if any of the guitar magazines have
>printed the TAB for Pearl Jam's "Even Flow".  Anyone know?
>Howabout a FTP site with it?

>Any help is greatly appreciated!

>Alex
>stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu

I think I got it from ftp.nevada.edu or ??ftp.diku.de??.  The have a few 
other Pearl Jam tabs....

jkemp@bss1.umd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon)
Subject: >> FENDER D'AQUISTO JAZZ GUITAR $750 <<
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:59:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA



	Fender D'Aquisto Guitar
	=======================

	Jazz Hollowbody Style with Single Pickup
	Natural Finish

	Condition : *Immaculate*

	Only $750.00  
	Complete with Hardshell Case

	Posted for a friend, if interested in this fine
	guitar, call Jim at (408) 356-0488


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: macleosd@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Scott Donald Macleod)
Subject: Help identifying guitar amp.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:32:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

  I have a guitar amplifier which I picked up second hand a couple of
years ago, and was wondering if someone could tell me who made it:
     There is no brand name anywhere that I can see, but small print on
the back says "C.M.I, Lincolnwood, Illinois". Is that a "no-name"
company?? I've never heard of the name before. Serial number 43109,
model "G60" (would that mean 60 watts??). I can't find a date, and the
front grill is not the original. There are two instrument inputs, one
has volume, treble, and bass, the other has those three, plus reverb,
speed, intensity. There is one speaker, about 13".

     Any help in identifying this amplifier would be greatly
appreciated.

     Thanks, Scott Macleod
     macleosd @newton.ccs.tuns.ca

Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Pedals vs Rack - sound quality?
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:41:16 GMT

I'm wondering about peoples opinions about the sound quality of pedals as
opposed to rack (80 zillion things at a time) effects.

Right now I have a Carvin DC127 guitar plugged into a SansAmp pedal (thanks
Rick!) plugged into a Yamaha FX500 effects processor.  The Yamaha is part of my
keyboard rig and I'd like to keep my guitar rig separate for a variety of
reasons.

Basically, all I want is compression, eq, chorus, delay, and a noise gate.  Can
I achieve good sound quality with Boss or DOD pedals (or some other brand) or
should I put up the extra money for another rack-unit?  I do know of the
convenience and ergonomical differences, I'm just curious as to sound quality.

Thanks for your opinions!

-Stephen

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Originator: npstewar@c00725-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:00:51 GMT


I play 11's with a plain G on a strat.  It's wonderful!  I've considered 12's
but I can never find them in D'Addario, which I'm very partial to.  Also, I'm
not sure I could get a plain G for a 12 set at all.(But as plain strings get
really large - they tend to have intonation problems - the string starts to
behave as a rod instead of a wire.)  If you play hard, you really should check
out a heavier string gauge, at least for a while.(I don't necessarily mean only
if you play hard all the time.  If you play softly, but use really hard dynamics
it will help even more, reducing the portion of your attack that plays sharp.)

If you have a locking trem, you probably want to play 9's because 1- less spring
tension, and 2- if you insist on a locking trem, 9's or 8's probably fit your
playing style much better in the first place.

Heavier string gauges will give a thicker tone.  And I've found that heavier
strings and higher action make it much easier to accurately controll my bends - 
instead of just a heave upwards, it's easier to bend intervals cleanly.  It
takes more physical effort, but you cut down on the fretboard space a bend takes.
It also keeps wrist vibrato from wiggling your high E string off of the edge of
the fingerboard.

npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu
Nathan Stewart

The above opinions are mine and mine alone, except in the case where I stole
them from someone else.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Rosewood vs Maple
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:52:50 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1992Nov20.020701.24226@microsoft.com> erikm@microsoft.com (Erik Madsen) writes:

   I've just recently entered the world of Strats.  I guess a bad one or two
   kept me away from them for years, but I've had some really great experiences
   with them lately.  Right now I'd like to buy one of the Fender reissue
   models, but something keeps cropping up: the difference between a maple
   neck and a rosewood neck.

I bought a Strat in 1979.  After playing both fingerboard types, I
chose the rosewood fingerboard.  I found the slipperyness/stickyness
of the varnished maple fingerboard unpredictable.  It was particularly
noticeable for me while bending a string, and applying a vigorous hand
vibrato.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bud@megatek.com (Wayne Francis)
Subject: Re: String Guages [what to use?]
Reply-To: bud@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:06:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.170846.18209@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) writes:
>Response to stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu
>>Well actually your increasing the area by (.10^2 -.09^2)/.10^2 which is
>>  19%. Actually I don't have a clue to where you say that distortion increases
>>  by 10%. 
>>Now my string theory is a bit fuzzy, but distortion is caused by a number of
>>differnet things. In relation to strings, I believe it has to do with
>>certain string harmonics being exited. If this is the case, then the opposiite
>>would be true because more force would be required to excite those harmonics.
>> I've always found that the heavier strings yield less distortion, and a 
>>brighter and "heavier" tone. 
>> On the other hand, heavier strings could cause more distortion my exiting
>>some lower harmonics, which may be at the lower end of the frequency response
>>of the amp and/or speaker which sometimes tend to "distort" the frequency.
>> Like I said, I haven't brushed up on string theory lately, so corrections
>>are welcome, but flames aren't....
>>
>
>Yes, the harmonics are (usually) reduced with the larger strings,
>but the key word is mass.
>
>Increase cross sectional area = increasing mass/length =>  
>increasing output voltage => increasing distortion. 
>And that increase depends on what's between the string and the
>speaker.   Piece of pie.
>
>BS
>
>
>ps.  I'll take a lot more than an E+M book to predict a 10%
>increase in distortion.   B)

   Excuse me gentlemen but isn,t distortion the result of electronicly
overdriving an amplifier stage?

From: bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:44:56 GMT
Subject: Guitarist Michael Dowdle
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.guitar

......cross-posted to rec.music.bluenote..........

I want to ask if anyone's heard of a guitarist named Michael Dowdle.  A friend
let me borrow his first and second cd's called "Touch" and "From The Hip". He
records on the Airus label out of Salt Lake City.  I really like this guy. 
He sort of sounds like a cross between Larry Carlton and Lee Ritenour with a 
little Robben Ford thrown in for good measure.  If you haven't had a chance to
hear him, you should.  This is all, of course IMHO.

________________________________________________________________
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________________________________________________________________
From: mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Rosewood vs Maple
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:42:22 GMT
Organization: Computing Centre, McGill University

In article <1992Nov20.020701.24226@microsoft.com> erikm@microsoft.com (Erik 
Madsen) writes:>Hi -

>I've just recently entered the world of Strats.  I guess a bad one or two
>kept me away from them for years, but I've had some really great experiences
>with them lately.  Right now I'd like to buy one of the Fender reissue
>models, but something keeps cropping up: the difference between a maple
>neck and a rosewood neck.  I've called several guitar stores around the
>country, and it seems that 57 reissues seem a little easier to come by.
>The 62 reissues seem a little harder to find.

>Can any of you strat players tell me why you might prefer one neck to the
>other?  Also, from what I've seen, the 62 models have a thinner neck than
>the 57 ones.  Is this true?  Why do you prefer one to the other?
>As far as the type of wood is concerned, is this something I shouldn't let
>bother me too much at this point in the game?

>Someone told me a few days ago that once I get into the Strat world there
>won't be much hope for coming back to my Les Paul...

>thanks!
>Erik

Hi Erik,
     To be more precise, a rosewood "neck" is really a rosewood fingerboard
laminated to a maple neck.  A maple fingerboard is simply a maple neck    
without a separate fingerboard per se (i.e. the frets are mounted directly
onto the face of the neck).  In any case, "maple/rosewood neck" is the 
generally accepted jargon used by most guitar players.  
   Maple tends to impart a brighter tone than rosewood which is warmer 
sounding.  I've got an American Standard with a maple neck and a buddy 
of mine owns one with a rosewood neck.  The difference in tone is subtle 
but definitely noticeable (IMHO).  In addition, I find that the rosewood 
neck feels a little more "slippery" (an ebony fretboard is even more so). 
As far as the thickness and shape of necks go, there was an excellent
article on that in a recent issue of Guitar Player (don't recall which 
month...can anybody out there help me out?).  Suffice to say, preference
towards a particular shape is highly subjective.  For what it's 
worth, I love the neck on my American Standard which is "C" shaped 
and a little on the fat side.  I have small hands so it definitely
took some getting used to, but now I don't think I could go back to a
skinny neck.  Then again, I don't play a lot of stuff with my 
thumb over the top which you might need a small neck and/or long 
fingers to pull off.  Like I said, it's a very personal 
choice.  My best advice is to try as many different ones as you can to 
figure out what suits you because I think you'll play your best if your
neck is as comfortable as possible.  (For a real wild experience, try the
Jeff Beck Strat - the neck is a serious baseball bat!)

Best of luck,
    Mike  

 
           
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From: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers,rec.music.beatles,alt.bass,misc.forsale
Subject: UPDATE - Vintage Guitars and other equipment for sale
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:29:17 GMT
Reply-To: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, Ma.


	Here's an update on the stuff I have for sale 

	1966 Rickenbacker 360/12 - SOLD
	MUSIC MAN SABRE I GUITAR w/hard case - SOLD


	FENDER PRO 185 - $349/bo
		Combo amp w/2-12" speakers, 185 watts (solid state),
Channel switching, Reverb, PRE and POST eq, EFFECTS LOOP with VARIABLE LEVEL
CONTROL, GAIN and master volume for various distortion settings...has CASTERS
to wheel the thing around on....INCLUDES FOOTSWITCH.
	This amp is like a twin reverb, but 185 watts (not just loud,
WAY TOO LOUD!!!) which is EXACTLY why I'm selling it...it's just TOO MUCH!
	This is a VERY nice amp, about a year old, in PERFECT shape.
They're over $550 new, reduced to sell $330/BO

	THE VINTAGE GUITARS...

1964 GRETSCH Clipper - $369/b.o.
---^	Nope, it's NOT a "Country Gentleman" or a "White Falcon"...but you knew
that from the price! 
	Dark sunburst finished f-hole Arch-top electric. Single cutaway, single
Hi'Lo tron pickup. Guitar is in nice shape, Dot inlaid rosewood neck is in fine
shape. Original (but battered) Gretsch hard case. $369/b.o. 


1965 (pre-CBS) Fender Jaguar - MAKE OFFER
	Yes, pre CBS (L series serial number) dates this as finished
mid 1965 from pre CBS parts. White with tortoise shell pick guard, rosewood
neck with absolutely MINT frets. This guitar looks sharp, and sounds 
as cool as it looks!

    	I've also got the following electric guitars...

	BRAND NEW Rickenbacker guitars and basses...(1st quality...right from
the factory, all stickers and tags still on them, with hard case and factory
warrenty honored by Rickenbacker...these instruments have only been out of the
cases once or twice!)

BRAND NEW Rickenbacker 360/12v64 - $995/bo
	Vintage style, Fire-glo finished 12-string electric (Like George
Harrisons Beatle guitar from "Hard Day's Night") with warrenty & case $995/bo 

BRAND NEW Rickenbacker BASS guitars...

    	BRAND NEW Maple-glo (natural) Rickenbacker 4003/s bass (Mono, Dot
    inlaid fingerboard, no binding) with hard case and warrentee. $699/bo

    BRAND NEW Jet-glo Black Rickenbacker 4003 bass (Stereo, triangle inlaid
    fingerboard) with hard case and warrentee intact. $775/bo


	If you have any interest in any of these contact me via
    E-mail ONLY please.
        Shipping for any item within the U.S. can be arranged...
Thanks,
Tom T


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: fbegin@bnr.ca (Francois Begin)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Organization: bnr
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:25:58 GMT

In article <1eh0lsINNn8h@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman) writes:
>
>ajm@iconix.oz.au (Andrew Mack) writes:
>
>>Hi netters,
>
>>Does it make any sense if I mention something called the "Steve Vai ten
>>hour guitar workout" ?? I've heard vague things about it and I think it
>>appeared in one of the guitar mags .. Guitar World maybe. Anyone have a
>>reference, or better, have it online?
>
>I have it in a guitar magazine so it does exists, and you correctly titled
>it.  I think it is silly and frivolous.  It's essentially 20 pages of 4
>exercises.  The reason it is so long is because they're all chromatic 
>exercises.  For example, the Annoying Chromatic Position Change Exercise:
>
>-1-2-3-4------------------------------------------
>---------1-2-3-4----------------------------------
>-----------------1-2-3-4--------------------------
>-------------------------1-2-3-4------------------
>---------------------------------1-2-3-4----------
>-----------------------------------------1-2-3-4--
>
>and after that they'd have
>
>-2-3-4-5-------------------------------
>---------2-3-4-5-----------------------
>-----------------2-3-4-5---------------
>-------------------------2-3-4-5-------
>---------------------------------2-3-4-5
>
>I think they would have saved many a tree if they just PUT:
>
>-(x)-(x+1)-(x+2)-(x+3)------------------------
>------------------------(x)-(x+1)-(x+2)-(x+3)-
>
>etc etc.  But then, playing guitar does not a mathematician make. :)
>
>
>Then I think they had the shapes of the modes played in every key, and such.
>It's better to create your OWN exercises based on individual weaknesses and
>compile your own "ten-hour workout."  I have a lot of exercises classified
>by that which they .exercise. - like "Advanced Legato Technique" and "Hand-
>Over-Hand 8-Finger Legato," etc.  I can type some up if people want..
>
>-jq
>
That would be great !

fb