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From: Peter Cramer <pgc@pop.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Novell problem
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:33:06 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physicsmac1.phys.cwru.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

LaserWriter Font Utility doesn't seem to like Novell print queues.  It
tells you that it's checking the printer characteristics and goes into an
infinite loop.

Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there a workaround for printing
PostScript files?
From: stone@media.mit.edu (Steve Librande)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System sound file names
Summary: What are the valid system sound file names?
Keywords: sound
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:30:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov11.163015.12660
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

Could someone send me a list of all the valid system sound filenames.
I know of a few: 'connect' 'filedone' 'termbell', but I'm sure there
must be several more.  For instance, can you name a sound 'eject' and
have it play everytime a disk is ejected?

Please e-mail replies, since I'm not a regular reader of this group.

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: System 6 and 7 Desktop
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:21:07 GMT


In article <BxI6qw.1Et@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) writes:
|> kfb2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Keenan Brock) writes:
|> 
|> >Is there a way to tell System 6 to use the System 7 desktop?
|> 
|> Use the Desktop Manager.

But be careful.

There are programs in the world that don't work with the Desktop
Manager under System 6.  I believe that Retrospect is one, and
I don't recall any of the others.

-- 
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore)
Subject: Re: System 7's Labels
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 21:45:21 GMT

In article <ellens-061192140320@47.220.2.151> ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens) writes:
>Now that System 7 has been around for a while, most people are familiar
>with the new features it introduced. One of these was the ability to assign
>"Labels" to files. A quick survey around the office here indicates that few
>people have made use of this. If your menu still reads "Essential Hot
>InProgress Cool ..." you probably haven't done anything with them either. 
>
>Is anyone out there using Labels? If so do you have any suggestions you'd
>like to share with the rest of us?
>
>
>Chris Ellens     /  My Canada includes: Every bitching, whining    /
>ellens@bnr.ca    /  province, aboriginal, feminist, minority, and  /
>                 /  special interest group.                        /

Well, personally I have 4 specific-purpose and 3 general-purpose labels:
Schoolwork (I'm a college student), Personal, Entertainment, and
Role-Playing Games (for all my notes, character sheets, etc.)
When I have to use the school lab computers, I can "Find" all of my
Schoolwork folders and copy stuff out of them; I also can "Find" my RPG stuff
and copy it for other people to use...

I use the last two general-purpose labels (they are Project 1, Project 2,
and Project 3) to force the sort order in a folder of folder aliases to my own
pattern; System Folder stuff on top, documents in the middle, and useful
utilities on the bottom...

Jay (=
From: sls16@po.CWRU.Edu (Samuel L. Shank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: MSDOS and Macs
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:51:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Has anyone used Universal Soft PC or Access PC?  If so, what are your
impressions?  What programs did you use it with?  Did anything crash?
What?  Did you try any games, or graphics programs?  If so, what?  which
ones?  Etc...

Ant comments are welcome.

Thanks.

-- 
Sam Shank
sls16@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: williabv@cs.aston.ac.uk (Bryn Williams)
Subject: Help!  Using an Amiga as a Mac server
Reply-To: williabv@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:16:20 GMT

I have recently come by a basic Mac, and I'd like to network it to my Amiga,
so that the Mac could mount the Amiga's hard drive as a file server via 
Appleshare.  Is this possible, and has anyone done it?

Cheers,

Bryn

williabv@cs.aston.ac.uk




Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Steve Christensen <stevec@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Powerbook and 7.1 questions
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:32:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <23494@galaxy.ucr.edu> Michael Judson, judson@watserv.ucr.edu
writes:
>What is "processor cycling" under the Powerbook app in the control
panels?

Power to the 68030 is turned on and off several times a second to reduce
the
amount of power used by the '030 when the computer is idle.

>In choosing between "battery conservation" and "performance" in the
Powerbook
>app, what are the pros and cons of each?  How much battery power is
saved?
>How much slower is it when "battery conservation" is selected?

"Battery conservation" doesn't slow the computer down overall, since,
unlike
for processor cycling, the computer is running at full speed.  When the
slider
is closer to conservation, the internal hard disk will turn off sooner,
and
the computer will auto-sleep sooner.  If you're doing a lot of
disk-intensive
operations, the spin up/spin down of the hard disk will slow you down a
bit,
and may be more annoying.  Choosing what a good balance of conservation
and
performance is will depend on how you use your computer.  If you're away
from a power plug a lot, you'll probably want to lean toward the
conseration
side.  If you're usually plugged in, you might as well leave the slider at
the performance end...

steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: white@fraser.sfu.ca (Steve White)
Subject: Re: Sys7 bug? Missed Mouse UpClicks??
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:15:29 GMT

We have the same problem on fx's, ci's, and Quadras.  Maybe it's the mouse?
Mine is an Apple Desktop Bus Mouse.  We'er running 7.0.1 with Tuner 1.1.1.
The problem seems to be system-wide.
From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Fonts and System 7.1
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:20:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: personal

In article <1992Nov6.060857.5461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) wrote:
> 
> (forgive my judicious editings; I want to keep this brief...)
> 
> In article <184146@pyramid.pyramid.com> bms@pyramid.com (Bruce Schlobohm) writes:
> >
> >I was able to print just fine with my Postscript fonts in the font
> >folder.  However, one of the Postscript font files had the same name
> >as the matching suitcase with the bitmap fonts, so I renamed the Postscript
> >font file.  Will this work?
> 
> I'm not 100% sure. PostScript fonts' names follow a special system; the
> first 5 letters of the first word in the name, followed by the first 3
> letters of any following words. (i.e. Courier is "Couri", a bold oblique
> version would be "CouriBolObl".) A better bet would be to rename the font
> suitcase; that shouldn't hurt anything.

Quite so.

The print font file name is predicted from information stored in a table in
the coresponding FOND resource (ref new IM 'Text:fonts', on CD).  They must
match (unless you edit the table, which is difficult ouside of a postscript
font editing package), so dont rename that printer file.  The Suitcase file
name is arbitrary, it doesnt have to match up with anything, and you can
rename it ad placitum.
--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu> | "Novo, de Novo,
                                  |     de novo, de no-o-o-o-o---, 
                                  | Novemba come an' dey gonna go home."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Darren_E._Tong@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 15:44:21 EST
Subject: Re: Please Help -- SAD MAC !

                00000003
                00000008
 
___I don't know what the heck those numbers mean. I only found them once
(messing arouund with my system too much) but they are supposed to indicate
a hardawre problem. The repair guy is supposed to know what they mean. So
if anybody here repairs them and/or tells you/give you a list, could you
send a copy to me? Thanks.

Possible diagnosis: SE logic board!
check/replace SIMM 1 on 820-1076  (orig.) logic board
check/replace SIMM 3 on 820-0250 (DIP SIMM) boards
basically the two on the left.



- BulkRate, the offline reader for FirstClass-darren_tong@fourd.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Juha.Hyvonen@hut.fi (Juha Hyv|nen)
Subject: Minor bug in balloon help
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:06:22 GMT

I just noticed that if the text in the balloon consists only of empty
lines (with linefeeds), Finder bombs with "divide by zero" when trying
to show the balloon.

---( juh )------( juha.hyvonen@hut.fi )---
From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1, PageMaker, LaserWriter IIg Problem
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:30:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: personal

In article <mdavis.721012166@crash.cts.com>, mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan
Davis) wrote:
> 
> 
> Ever since installing System 7.1, I can't get color picts to print out
> with proper gray scaling to a LaserWriter IIg using PageMaker.  I get the
> same results (odd looking screening and quilt-like patches for solid color
> pixel maps) regardless of whether I use Aldus's or Apple's (Option-Print)
> printer drivers.  I'm using PageMaker 4.2a.  EPS stuff is coming out okay --
> its a problem with color picts.
> 
> One day everything was fine.  Immediately after installing 7.1 my printouts
> from PageMaker were not the same as before.
> 
> Any ideas?

It was my impression that Pagemaker didnt use the default greyscale
compensations built in to apples PS driver, but instead employed a
different correction method.  I cant recall exactly where I saw this
discussed, could have been in PS book lit (Roth: Real World PS?), maybe in
Publish, Publishing...

The above would result in subtle grey scale value differences tho, not what
you are complaining about.  Perhaps you should print to disk and compare
the PS to see what is actually going on.

You don't describe your Hardware, perhaps it lacks color QD, and you forgot
to include support for it when you gened 7.1?
--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu> | "Novo, de Novo,
                                  |     de novo, de no-o-o-o-o---, 
                                  | Novemba come an' dey gonna go home."
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:13958 comp.sys.mac.misc:19040
From: 6500veen@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey Veen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Undeletable folder
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:48:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system


I belive you could also create a new folder on a floppy, give it the
same name as the misbehaving folder, move it into the same directory
as the bad one, thereby replacing it with a good folder which can
then be thrown away, right?

(please, no sentence-structure flames...)

jv

--
              ._o
            _ \`c
___________(_)/(_)_______________________________6500veen@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu_____

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins)
Subject: Re: TextEdit, International Scripts and others....
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:57:21 GMT

In article <BxF9ny.KBK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete
Resnick) wrote:
> 
> I seem to remember that Nisus might call the Script Manager routines,
> but I am not absolutely positive. My guess would be that more and more
> word processors will in the future (boy, I hope MacWrite Pro does when
> it comes out given how long it is taking!).
> 


Nisus gives every appearance of rigidly using the Script Manager.  I
have never had any problems in handling any of the nasty non-Roman
scripts with it:  Hebrew, Chinese, Japanese, and so on.  (By "nasty" I
mean the ones that send word processors like Word into fits because they
don't know what to do with them.)  It is painfully sluggish in getting
input from TSM-based input methods used with System 7.1, but I
understand a TSM-aware version is in the works which should correct
this.  

WordPerfect also manages non-Roman scripts fairly well.  I haven't tried
it on a right-to-left script like Hebrew or Arabic to see how well it
does there, but it can manage Chinese and Japanese.  Its interface in
this area is pretty lousy, however.  

I'm hoping that Claris will have been smart enough to use the Script
Manager with MacWrite Pro, if it ever shows up.

Hypercard uses styled TextEdit, and so you get the Script Manager for
free (plus the 32000 character limit).  Most Macintosh development
systems provide sample text editors to show how they can be implemented;
these will also typically use TextEdit or styled TextEdit and so handle
non-Roman scripts correctly--with the 32 Kb limit.  This is how I do all
my non-English text processing, personally.
From: edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 does not let me use Dropple Menu...
Date: 7 Nov 1992 03:31:14 GMT
Organization: Workstation Support (UC Berkeley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: quark.berkeley.edu

In article <kim3.720465679@husc10> kim3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jason Y. Kim)
writes:
>
>....but considering the vast amount of extensions and cp's that it does still
>let me use, I am pretty impressed.
>
>Has anyone noticed that in 7.1, if you have an open window and you click on
>the desktop by accident, the active window now *stays active*? Ah, the subtle
>things in life are truly the best...
>
>-- 
>
>
>                              ~  Jason Y. Kim  ~
>                                     ~=@=~
>

Back to the original subject: yes, Dropple Menu doesn't work for me either
under 7.1.  This was the major reason that I stop using Now Utilities 4.0-even
though I liked all the new features, I couldn't live without Dropple Menu. 
Does anybody know how to fix it, or to contact the author?

Edward Moy
Workstation Support Services
University of California at Berkeley
Berkeley, CA  94107

edmoy@violet.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: n054gi@tamuts.tamu.edu (Apurva Shah)
Subject: A Stack Heap Collision Error.
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:04:43 GMT

Dear Readers,

This is the first time I am posting to this news group so I
hope my question is in the correct place and provides all the
information relevant to the problem.

A Macintosh IIx that I use, of late frequently gives me a 
'Stack Heap Collision Error'. The error most frequently
occurs when I try to run Canvas 2.0. However, other apps
also often crash with this message. I am running Finder 6.1.8
and system 6.0.8. 

Any help on what this error means and how it may be tackled 
would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Apurva Shah
(n054gi@tamuts.tamu.edu)
    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: @analog.com (Hans Rempel)
Subject: Sys7 bug? Missed Mouse UpClicks??
Originator: rempel@zeus
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:35:05 GMT

I am having a fluky problem in System 7.0 and 7.01 on my Mac IIsi. When mousing around on the esktop, moving icons, etc., the "up-click" signal from the mouse is missed by the mahine (orfirmware/software). I have heard that Sys 7 handles the up-click signal differently than sys 6; has anyone heard of this as a bug or experienced a similar problem.
From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suitcase II 1.2.12 and Sys 7.1
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:18:39 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <1992Nov10.132945.20596@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> achernar@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Brono Gatea) writes:
>By now it is known that Suitcase II is incompatible with System 7.1. Is an
>upgrade in the works (a free upgrade that is)?

Well it looks like you will have to move up to suitcase 2.0. Speciffically
you will need 2.1.2 for 7.1 compatibility.

Howard Kaplan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jnsims01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: System sound file names
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:59:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Nov11.163015.12660@news.media.mit.edu>, stone@media.mit.edu 
  (Steve Librande) writes:
> Could someone send me a list of all the valid system sound filenames.
> I know of a few: 'connect' 'filedone' 'termbell', but I'm sure there
> must be several more.  For instance, can you name a sound 'eject' and
> have it play everytime a disk is ejected?
> 
> Please e-mail replies, since I'm not a regular reader of this group.

Please also post this information - I've never heard of such a thing and this
would be very handy to know!!

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From: bcarb@MDC.Unisys.COM (Brian Carb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sys7 bug? Missed Mouse UpClicks??
Summary: A new mouse solved the problem!
Keywords: mouse upclicks
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:18:11 GMT
Organization: Unisys Malvern Development Center.

In article <lkingsley-061192154914@lkingsley.crd.ge.com>
lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley) writes about missing mouse clicks:

>Happens all the time on my IIsi at work. I suspect it's in the same
>category as the "disappearing sound" problem: something we've got to live
>with.

Not so - when I bought my IIsi in January, I noticed this problem. The
dealer said it was system software related, but I didn't believe it.
As a test, I temporarily exchanged mice with another mac. The results:
the problem disappeared from my mac, and "moved" to the other mac. The
dealer sent me a new mouse, and my IIsi has been fine ever since.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian A. Carb (bcarb@MDC.unisys.com)
Whistlepig Associates
Radnor, PA

whistlepig (n): furry burrowing marmot, eats grasses and clover,
                hibernates in winter, produces high-pitched
                whistle if scared. syn: groundhog, woodchuck.
From: u2087546@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Weird IIsi + 7.1
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:53:55 +1100
Organization: Comedy Company

Hi everyone.
I'm getting some slow Speedometer 3.1 results from my IIsi now that
I've installed system 7.1. I've adjusted the disk cache from 384k-2048k
with no difference to the CPU results. These are:
                         7.1                7.0.1+Tuner
      CPU:              4.35                 5.45
      GRAPHICS:         5.92                 6.55
      DISK:             1.85                 1.87
      MATH:             7.93                 19.98
      Overall:          4.40                 6.50

It appears that 7.1 no longer includes the SANE trap, but why such a
low CPU result? The 8-bit video result jumps from 1.25 for 7.0.1 to
1.41 for 7.1 while all the other depths are worse off. I have no extraneous
inits or cdevs loaded.
Any ideas?

Steve Margelis
From: ceg@nova3.stanford.edu (Chris Gronbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Problem w/ Keybd/Quadra/Sys 7.0?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:04:57 GMT
Organization: Int'l. Inst. for Energy Conservation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nova3.stanford.edu
Summary: Wierd typing things going on here...
Keywords: keyboard

I am experiencing two strange phenonena when typing:  first, sometimes
when I type a letter at the end of a word and then a space before the next
word neither prints, and I have an almost-completed word joined to the
next word I am typing.  Second, when I type a word that ends in 'o' and
then a space, it often replaces the space with another 'o'.

This only happens at work on two different Quadra 700 systems (extended
kybrd, etc).  Anyone ever hear of this?  I doubt it's my particular
style because it doesn't happen at home on my SE30 or on the PCs I
sometimes must use.  Suggestions?

Thanks.

Christopher Gronbeck
ceg@nova.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Subject: System 7.1, PageMaker, LaserWriter IIg Problem
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:09:26 GMT
Keywords: laserwriter iig 7.1 trouble


Ever since installing System 7.1, I can't get color picts to print out
with proper gray scaling to a LaserWriter IIg using PageMaker.  I get the
same results (odd looking screening and quilt-like patches for solid color
pixel maps) regardless of whether I use Aldus's or Apple's (Option-Print)
printer drivers.  I'm using PageMaker 4.2a.  EPS stuff is coming out okay --
its a problem with color picts.

One day everything was fine.  Immediately after installing 7.1 my printouts
from PageMaker were not the same as before.

Any ideas?
From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Daniel Ira Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7.1 Serial Port Trouble
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:49:09 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Ever since I installed System 7.1 I have been getting many more
crc errors while downloading. I have also heard that others have
experienced trouble using scanner--they time-out (although this
sounds like a scsi problem. 

One person said that Apple knew of the problem and one fix was to
bring the ram chache down to 256k and pump the finder up 64k or so...
I have done this and it doesn't seem to help matters at all... What
is the official/unofficial remeady for this problem. Have others
had same problems? I think it only happens to IIsi machines.
-Dan
From: tamara@glia.biostr.washington.edu (tiny t)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: The real reason Apple is now charging for system software
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:47:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov7.054744.13230
Organization: Dept Biological Structure-University of Washington

One of the incentives for buying my 486 was the fact that I got
	Windows for free
		Paradox for free
		C and C++ Borlind compiler for free

		I bought a Gateway 2000

		Other companies do offer free software. Other people's
			but still free software.
			It's worth quite a lot of $$$