From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:10:28 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
:	KING: What if your daughter grew up and had a problem, came to you
:	and with that problem that all fathers fear? How would you deal with
:	it?
:	QUAYLE: Well, it is a hypothetical situation. I hope that I never
:	do have to deal with it, but obviously ----
:	KING: What would you do?
:	QUAYLE: I would council her and talk to her and support her on 
:	whatever decision she made?
:	KING: And if the decision was abortion, yould support her, as a parent?
:	QUAYLE: I'd support my daughter. I'd hope thath she wouldn't make that
:	decision.
:The New York Times, in a fit of liberalness, did not draw any conclusions
:from the statment, but did quote leaders from both "Opponents of Legal 
:abortion" and "Supporters of abortion rights".
	Just a few more quotes for the benefit of discussion...

"While we welcome VP Quayle's newfound respect for his own daughter's
freedom to choose, we regret that he and President Bush want to take
that same freedom away from everyone else. It smacks of a double
standard for VP Quayle to support his daughter's decision when he's
worked so hard to allow the government to interfere in every other
woman's decision."
	Kate Michelman, NARAL President (National Abortion Rights Action
League)

"There is a clear distinction between supporting your children's
decisions, right or wrong, and supporting a woman's right to choose. ...
If she's an adult, clearly, he's a loving father, he would support his
daughter even if she makes the wrong decision. ... He's not saying he
supports her right to choose. He supports his daughter because he loves
her."
	Jeffrey Nesbit, spokesman for VP Quayle

"[Quayle's comments] are consistent with a pro-life position. We reject
the violent act of abortion. We do not reject the people involved. ... A
parent can still support the child without approving of the act that the
child has carried out."
	Darla St. Martin, assoc. executive director, National
Right-to-Life Committee

"I don't think I should comment on Dan Quayle's relationship with his
daughter. He made a personal statement. ... I think it reinforces my
position that these matters should not be turned back into crimes.
	<< Asked what he would do if his daughter Chelsea, now 12,
became pregnant, Clinton said: >> I wouldn't talk to the press about
it."
	Gov. Bill Clinton, Democratic nominee for President.

Quotes taken from Washington Post 24 Jul 92, A16.

Now, my notes:
1)	According to the context of this excerpt, Larry was prompting
Quayle on his support for his family and his daughter. Remember this was
a hypothetical problem "that all fathers fear." Note he said: "I would
support her" and "I'd support my daughter."
2)	It seems interesting that Clinton said he wouldn't comment about
Quayle's statement. Watch and see if the rest of the party would be so
"gentlemanly."
3)	Michelman's comment about Quayle's "newfound respect for his
daughter's freedom to choose." Again, if he spurned his daughter, then
she'd probably deride Quayle for being a cold-hearted Republican for
putting his ideology over his own flesh-and-blood. As I said once
before, it's a Catch-22 for Quayle. He can't please his opponents no
matter what. (That's what George Bush has learned in four years of
compromise with Congress.)

:	My own problem is that, for Quayles perspective, he essentially
:is saying that he would support his daughter if she chose to become a
:murderer. Given that he is actively trying to make abortion illegal,
:one could conclude that abortion is ok for his daughter, but not ok for
:anybody else. After all, if your willing to go to great lengths to keep
:stranges from performing a sinful act, then you should be willing to go
:at least that far for your own kids.
	And what if Corinne Quayle chose to have the baby?
	*Sigh.* I guess you approved of Gov. Dukakis saying he would
still disapprove of using the death penalty even against a criminal who
fictitiously murders his wife. How noble of him to be consistent on his
stand even when it affects him (hypothetically) personally. When someone
breaks into your house and holds you and your family at gunpoint, how
noble you are if you're for gun-control and refuse to use your gun in
self-defense and defense of your family.
	 Finally, would you support your son or
daughter marrying someone you didn't think would make a good spouse for
him/her, or would you disown your own child? Some parents despite their
apprehensions and opposition would still support their children in times
of need. This last point is an example of how parents support their
children even if they don't agree with the decision. Sorry if you don't
agree.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck		DUKE BLUE DEVILS: 1992 ACC CHAMPIONS!
Biomedical Engineer 1993	1992 EAST REGIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Duke University, Durham, NC	AND 1992 NCAA NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!
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