From: baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan)
Subject: Re: Continuation on CYPRUS, Palikaria Terrorists and Makarios!
Summary: Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus -- 9 Years Old --
Keywords: Palikaria, Enosis, PKK, Troodos Mts, South Cyprus
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:26:24 GMT
Expires: January 1994

In article <BzDpKq.5Mv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis) responding to my article, writes:
 
>Thanks for calling me Kyrio, but please try to be more casual.
>(note: the correct way of saying it is: Kirie Michali (i.e. no 's'))

My pleasure, Michali, but let's see what YOU have laid this time.


>Something that I have noticed from your postings is that you
>get very upset on the idea of changes in the current map of Cyprus.

As a matter of fact, I get very upset when Vasiliou claims Guzelyurt, the
deadly crucial part of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus which provides
80% of the water needs of TRNC, let alone the citrus exports to UK and
Germany. I get even more upset when I hear the current statements of black-
gowned-Makarios-duplicate Chrisostomos claiming Girne and G. Magusa as 
'Hellenic territory'. All my hopes about a possible federation get zapped
when I see such behaviour and sheer greed in the significant majority of
the Greek Cypriots. So I come to the conclusion that the map of Cyprus
should stay like this for at least several generations in order for the 
greed to die away and hopefully bring Cyprus a brighter future than the 
1963-1974 period and its likely repetitions. 

 
>What figure of speech are you? 
>Excuse my direct translation from the greek.  What I'm asking is
>how are you related to Cyprus, are a Turkish Cypriot, a Turk from 
>Turkey, a Turkish settler in Cyprus, or ....?

Does it really matter? My 'figure of speech' as you define it, has nothing
to do with the facts that are in front of the world's eyes. Let me ask you
then. Do you have Turkophobia or have lost your orientation lately?


>I was in Cyprus when the coup took place.   


Are you, by any chance, related to Palikari Sampson? Well, just for your
information, he is free! What do you have to say about this, Michali?
Do you approve of what Vasiliou did by letting him loose? If Vasiliou
frees an ENOSIS (union of Cyprus with Greece) cheerleader like Nicos, then
all I want to say is: OXI! OXI to Federation with Enosis minded Palikaria.
Why should Turkish Cypriots start to worry about their own safety and security
again when there will be a Palikari like Sampson wandering around and 
claiming more innocent Turkish Cypriot lives? 

 
>Bollogna or cheddar cheese the truth of the matter is that the 
>case is in the European Court of Human Rights, and prospects do not 
>seem so nice for Denktash's Regime.

Who cares? Where was 'European Court of Human Rights' when Greek/Greek Cypriot
Palikaria were relentlessly killing the innocent and unarmed Turkish Cypriots
during 1963-1974? Where was 'ECHR' when the Turkish Cypriot people of three
villages near Famagusta were being slaughtered just because they were Turkish?
And where was 'ECHR' when Vasiliou was releasing Nicos the Palik? Don't play
games Michali, just open your eyes to the truth and use some common sense.
The rest will come to you!

>Another correction regarding your greek.  The singular for palikaria
>is palikari.

Point well taken.

 
>The point is that we are not trying to take away the independence and
>the sovereignity of nobody.  We only want to get ours back.

You don't even accept let alone recognize the independence and sovereignty
of Turkish Cypriots to start with. You have yours in South Cyprus as well.
I guess you are not barking right now.

>Are you really aware of todays attitude of Greek Cypriots for enosis with
>Greece?  
>I do not know of a single Cypriot who would like Cyprus to be united with
>Greece.

Then you don't know the facts and you don't know the truth Michali. But you
have two big ears to listen to Makarios-duplicate Chrisostomos, let alone
blood thirsty palik Aloneftis ('South Cyprus defense minister' in charge of
buying missiles, helicopters and tanks). Period!


>Maybe is time you try to find a different story to tell us...

The story I want to tell in brief is the following Michali: The map of Cyprus
has been changed for GOOD! Wake up and smell the roses! Fair enough?


>Talking about military powers in Cyprus.  Wasn't Cyprus 
> who suggested that the Turkish Army be replaced with UN forces
>with all expenses be payed by the Cyprus Government, and at the same
>time the Cyprus National Guard be disintegrated. That sure sounds
>like a very good proposal to me, and everyone else I know.

The simple and sneaky idea behind that proposal, Michali, is the fact that
Greek Cypriot sector is doing anything and everything to liquidate the 
powers of the Turkish Guarantee. It has never worked and it sure will never.
Even if you proposed to pave every square inch of Northern Cyprus with gold,
the Turkish Cypriots would not have the guts to change the effective Turkish
Guarantee. Period!

>Several "quotes" by Makarios deleted

I wonder why. If you close your eyes to the truth, then get a pair of ear
plugs as well. Do you have counter 'quotes' with sources and dates by the
way, or do you just like to aimlessly whine?


>Your quotes are very hard to convince not just me but 
>a Turkish Cypriot too.  

It's hard to pound some facts and figures into your brain. Sounds like a 
personal problem to me. 
 

>Michalis Syrimis
>University of Illinois
>Urbana-Champaign
>


Cheers,
Okan Baysan.