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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Whither Kentucky?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:57:34 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Oct5.104317.17160@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>Jeffrey N. Burch writes:
>>
>>Somewhere between 9th and 12th seems like a believable spot for the Wildcats
>>to start off.  But if Pitino can consolidate this team the way he did with
>>his last one, they could end up in the top 5 or 6 by NCAA time.
>>
>Just to let everyone know that not all UK fans have a limitless
>supply of ether to stoke their optimism:

Some responses:

>UK graduated 4 of its top 6 players.

Right.  And recruited 5 more (only 4 of whom will play, due to Prop
48).  Plus gets one back off of "injured reserve."

>Two of the guards upon whom UK must rely are returning from knee surgery,
>including one from ACL surgery.

Certainly a concern.  If Ford and Brassow aren't back near 100%, this
could be a very long year.  Everything I've heard (with one exception,
a Pitino anti-woof) makes it sound like they are back.

>One of the top contenders for the center position hasn't played organized
>ball in almost 2 years.

Which is why we may see more of Martinez, Riddick, and Timberlake at
the center while Dent gets back in shape.  Martinez improved a lot 
between his freshman and sophomore year - he's still stiff, but more
flexible than he used to be.  If he improved only half as much this
year, he'll be all right.  

I don't even know if Timberlake will be able to play, after the Laettner 
stomp.  :-)

>As talented as Jamal Mashburn is, he still doesn't jump very high.
>

This is very true, and I'm surprised he doesn't get more criticism 
for it.  But he rebounds and blocks fairly well, so he must be doing
OK with positioning.

>Top 10? No. Top 50? With work.
>Coach Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Season: 1-5 Lifetime: 1-7
>Ask me about my 1 game win streak!

With the returning talent, it'll be hard to keep them out of the 
top 25 no matter what.	

I will save your post, Coach Davis, and when UK makes the Sweet Sixteen
(or perhaps, with a little luck, the Elite Eight) next year, I  will
repost it as a warning to others not to lose faith.  If UK muffs it
this year and ends up down around 50th in the nation, please feel free
to repost this as a warning to me not to semi-woof.  :-)

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From: burgin@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Robert Burgin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Joey Beard - Duke Bound
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:09:29 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Sep28.102514.1626@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>Whew...Duke better make use of him FAST!!! Quicker and a better rebounder
>than the #1 college player in the country last year...
>if he learns to shoot, he'll just go straight to the pros, and then
>where will you be? 

	If Beard (or anyone from Duke) jumps to the pros,
	it would mark the first time that a Duke basketball
	player has jumped.  Duke is the only ACC school
	with that distinction, by the way.

	--rb


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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Monty Williams
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:18:06 GMT


	Saw in the Chicago Tribune the other day that Monty Williams,
	who last played basketball competitively for Notre Dame 2 years
	ago, has been cleared by his doctors to play again.  So, he's
	going to play for the Irish this season.  Just a question --
	Williams only played one season -- his freshman year.  He's sat
	out 2 years now, and is academically a senior.  What's the
	status on his eligibility?  While he did sit out 2 years -- he
	never really redshirted -- since everyone thought he'd never
	play again.  What's the ruling?  Can he declare one of those
	years a redshirt season and have 2 years left?

	Really interesting article.  It talked about Williams' struggles
	after finding out he could no longer play -- and about how he
	became a born-again Christian and kept on believing he could come
	back.  A really touching story...

	Jazzy J
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Wimpiest Arenas: was Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.134126.4793@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <1S1-N8@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara)  
>writes:

>> lame. They sit (not stand like DUKE fans) and rarely clap or get
>> into the game.....
>
>Wellll, don't accuse the Duke NON-student fans of too much activity -
>despite the fact that they are into the game, they only stand several
>times per game (recently) or per year (several years ago).  

We had the same problem at Georgia Tech.  Sometimes, the student
section would start of cheer of "stand up" geared towards the alumni.
Of course, some of them got real seats and we got bleachers.  I bet if they
just put bleachers throughout people wouldn't get some comfy and might
stand up more.

Of course, at least MOST of the ACC schools are smart enough to put
the students somewhere near the floor.  Of course, maybe Carolina
alumni are different and really DO stand up :)  (I think Clemson does
it the best - you really can't beat sitting under the basket right on
the edge of the court - no sitting allowed).

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

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From: GRS00010@APPSTATE.EDU (Shannon R. Adams)
Subject: Stackhouse to narrow list
Organization: Appalachian State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:55:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


	I just read in the Charlotte Observer that Jerry Stackhouse
will narrow his choices this weekend.  His Oak Hill Academy coach,
Steve Smith, said that he is leaning toward NC State and UNC.
Although, he is still considering Fla. State, Michigan, and Virginia.

	Stackhouse is coming home to Kinston this weekend and will
have in-home visits from UNC and Michigan.  After the visits, his
coach said, he and his family intend to narrow his options.

	Smith said there is no truth to suggestions that Jeff McInnis and
Stackhouse will go to the same school as part of a package deal.  So,
it seems as if it will be either UNC or State who will get the prize.
I still think that there is a good chance that McInnis and Stackhouse
will stick together and go to NC State.  We will see . . .



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From: wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:12:41 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith update
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

In article <19882@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>}} In article <19881@ector.cs.purdue.edu> gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:
>}} 
>}} [ Carl lists five ways in which Keady frees up a scholarship for
>}}   Rashard Griffith ]
>
>6. Cornelius McNary ties himself up and immolates himself on a burning
>pyre, apparently despondent over recent removal of campus landmark,
>the old smokestack, thereby releasing scholarship.  Gene Keady is
>later seen trying to scrub a faint smell of kerosene and garlic from
>his hands.
>

Does the removal of the smokestack mean there are no more virgins at
Purdue?


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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: Sport Magazine's Sweet Sixteen
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date:  2 Oct 1992 07:58 MST  

In article <1992Oct1.142729.18645@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes...
{ 
{In article <30SEP199216085499@cc.utah.edu>, ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes:
{ 
{|> Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:08 MST  
{|> 
{|> In article <5627@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes...
{|> { 
{|> 
{|> {Metro: Tulane, Louisville
{|> 
{|> Where is Cinci or Memphis St?
{ 
{In the Great Midwest Conference - You should feel some heat for this blunder.
{WAC people - I'm so sure.....
{ 
{|> 
{|> -Eric
{|> ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
{ 

OOPS!  I have been in the basketball outback for way too long.  All the 
bball facts have been drained from my head by the vacuum of college hoops.

Sorry.  Its been four years since I lived in NC.

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu
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From: thmpsnmc@marmaduke3.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Reply-To: thmpsnmc@marmaduke3.Berkeley.EDU (Milton C. Thompson)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:10:39 GMT

Allen FieldHouse, Lawrence Kansas  #1
The little shack Duke plays in #2
The kid from Halsted Kansas Arena (Rupp for the uninformed) Arena #3
The Orange Peel dome (just the mass of fans here) #4
Bobby K's place in Indiana #5

		Craig Thompson
From: seth@mivax.mc.duke.edu (His Majestic Highness the Seth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Carolwhiney Tarholes
Keywords: Dean Smith, Partisan Refs, Polls
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:16:00 GMT

Organization: Duke University Medical Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

A recent Gallup poll of Chapel Hill, NC revealed the following:

   Most popular Soda: Coke Classic
   Most popular Beer: Budweiser
   Most popular Wine: "I can't believe they won two national championships"

.."they" be duke.  Dean Smith, with all the talent he's had, has one.  Dean
smith is the only who could hold Michael Jordan to under twenty points/game.
If he didn't bribe the refs, Carolina would lose 5 more games/year.

     ...RE: Rob Clough...He has the truth.  He is a demi-god on his way to
bigger and better things.  He inventer goober in a dream.  Upon waking, he
wrote the idea on a piece of paper and quickly recycled it.  Rob talked Jesus
into playing for duke, but Grant Hill so humilated the son of Seth that
I pulled my son from the team.
     Laettner this and Laettner that.  Wait and see; the NBA has plenty of time
and then we'll chew the fat.
     Perhaps we could rename the DUKE INVITATIONAL to the GRANT HILL SHOW.  
The biggest mistake you can make is to underestimate how good duke will be 
this year.  Grant is still in first gear.  He beat Zeus one on one.
     Hoops as a secular religion?  Fine wid me.  I am the court.
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Yet another post from DUMC (and yes, our marching band is DUMB)...

I am the one Seth, the only Seth, and all Seth's live through me.  My opinions
are opinionated versions of Dook's official opinions (look it up!).  Since it
is absurd for a University to have opinions, it is only fitting that I should
be the one.  Politically correct? OXYMORON! (read Tarheel with acne).

     H I S   M A J E S T I C   H I G H N E S S   T H E   S E T H 
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From: ryan@dup.cs.fsu.edu (John Ryan)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Reply-To: ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:08:15 GMT


> 1. Michigan				21. Cincinnati
> 2. Duke    :)				22. UConn
> 3. Indiana :)				23. Wake Forest
> 4. Kentucky				24. Iowa
> 5. Kansas				25. Michigan State
> 6. North Carolina			26. Alabama
> 7. Seton Hall				27. Tulane
> 8. Florida				28. Arizona State
     ^^^^^^^
> 9. Arizona				29. Georgia
>10. Memphis State			30. Oklahoma State
>11. Ohio State				31. Nebraska
>12. Syracuse				32. BYU
>13. UNLV				33. Texas
>14. Georgetown				34. Iowa State
>15. Arkansas				35. Purdue
>16. Louisville				36. St. John's
>17. Georgia Tech			37. Virginia
>18. UCLA				38. Tennessee
>19. Oklahoma				39. Florida
                                            ^^^^^^^
>20. UMASS!!! (tm)			40. Temple

I'm assuming that #8 is actually Florida State.  There's a *little*
difference between the two schools.  :-)

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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: PAC-10: Oregon State Schedule
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:05:48 GMT

matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>>Dec 28	Ohio State
>>Dec 29	BYU or Oregon
>
>Must be BYU.  If it's an Oregon holiday tourney (and it looks like it),
>then they'll just switch opponents for the second game rather than have a
>mini-tourney.  No way will the Beavs and Ducks play three times.

Actually I'm pretty sure this is the Far West Classic which is a real 
tournament where winners and losers play the second day.  Oregon and OSU
host this tourney every year, and they have met for the championship in
the past, though this doesn't happen regularly.  On the other hand, BYU
will probably whip Oregon (remember Shawn--Got he's tall--Bradley??)

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From: llt3f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Lawrence Lynn Thursby)
Subject: Re: Inside Sports Poll
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:28:23 GMT

jb118@prism.gatech.EDU  writes:
> In article <1992Oct4.114342.27007@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
> >In article <BvKnAM.BB2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell) writes:
> >
> >>I hate to be a one-sided, narrow-viewed fan, but what about Purdue?
> >>They aren't really going to be all that bad, are they?  I fully 
> >>expect them to at least make the NCAA's, so why is everyone 
> >>overlooking them?  Any input?
> >
> >Shhhh!  Quiet!!!  Don't you know that Gene's boys do better when they
> >aren't supposed to?  Be very quiet......
> 
> Let's engage in a little act of sabotage here.
> 
> PURDUE SHOULD BE RANKED #1 IN THE BIG TEN AND IN THE NATION.  
> KEADY IS GREAT...BOILERMAKERS R00LZ!!!
> 
> Hee hee hee...
> 
> (or does it only work for one's own schools?)
> 
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I think everyone here has gone insane- just because OSU (that's
Ohio, not Oklahoma) lost the "real" player of the year (Jimmy
J.-future rookie of the year) doesn't mean they wouldn't be
just as good with players like Lawrence Funderburke throwing
feeble shots back at girl-like players.  Big Ten=OSU & That
team up North.
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Originator: jagreath@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:30:15 GMT


Just a question, when are the results of the toughest arenas going to be posted?


Also, just a quick rundown of 5 of the toughest places I know of for visitors:

The Pit - New Mexico - KGGM in Albuquerque measured the decibel levels inside
	the arena during several conference games.  The noise level on the floor
	during these times was equivalent to standing next to a jet engine as
	a plane takes off. This is the *only* place that can compete with 
	Cameron in terms of difficulties for the opponents.

Cameron - Duke - Much as I hate to say it, the Blue Devil student supporters
	are the best in the business.  The crowd, the coach, and the team 
	combine to make the toughest arena in the ACC, and possibly the nation.

Allen Field House - Kansas - Jayhawk tradition and nothing else to do in the
	middle of the plains combine to make this arena easily one of the top
	5 in the country.

McKale Center - Arizona - You can't see anything here that *isn't* red or blue.
	This place could compete with the Pit if it had about 4000 more seats.\

Carrier Dome - Syracuse - Who doesn't have trouble with the lighting in a 
	dome?

Others:
	Rupp Arena - Kentuky, Thomas and Mack Center - UNLV, Reynolds Coliseum -
	NC State, Assembly Hall - Louisville.
  
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Recruiting News Here and There
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:48:29 CDT

>In article <BvGonB.GH2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>
>>	Edwards situation.  Steve Edwards ended up signing w/ Miami (? or
>>	was it Florida?) because he didn't want to play in his brother's
>>	shadow at Florida St.  Come to think of it -- I haven't seen
>>	many brother combinations on the same team at the same time.
>>	Some I can recall are Wayman/William Tisdale, Horace/Harvey Grant,
>>	Carl/Charles Thomas, Lance/David Miller.  Any others?

Don't forget about Jon and Joe Ross, currently on Notre Dame.  And if you
go back in history a bit (a long bit) you have the Van Arsdale brothers at
Indiana.
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: WOLFPACK REPOST!!!
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:06:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.162409.5531@ncsu.edu> arschwam@eos.ncsu.edu (ALLISON  
RENEE SCHWAMBERGER) writes:
> On a happier note though, I, too, thoroughly despise Dook(ie). They
> have got to be the biggest group of a**holes to ever don jerseys.
> 
> BRIAN--------

Except, perhaps, those who are named both "ALLISON" and "BRIAN",
or who get ants in their pants over 6 month old posts.

> BTW, I do pull for UNC over NCSU even though I'm a student here.
> Call it a habit!

So maybe this is why you're not posting under your own name...
guess you won't be celebrating in Wolfpack Land this Sat.

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From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Wimpiest Arenas: was Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:49:39 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Georgia has to be in this group's top five. This football school's backing of   basketball is almost non-existant. After the first home loss of the season,     tickets are ridiculously easy to come by. For instance, last year Arkansas came to town with Miller, Day, Mayberry, et al, and it wasn't even a sellout. When   Kentucky came in, they had as many fans as we did ( and were far louder).
These "fans" do football cheers at Bball games. There is not much of a traditionhere at UGA, so the fans do not know how to act. They can come to a football    game, tailgate, get drunk, cheer the Dawgs onto victory, tailgate again, drink  more, and drive home inebriated. This is almost an art form. But basketball is  another story where they file in quietly, sit and watch the team beat Arkansas  or lose to Auburn (kind of backwards, but they play to the ability of their     opponents), and file out quietl



y.
To make matters worse, there is a stage in the Coliseum behind one of the goals.This looks tacky and gives our team no respect. Other teams come in and make funof it.
With all this considered, home games are little better than a neutral site game for our team.
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