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From: gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: USA Article: Scotty
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:21:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

In article <AeX7_Va00VAt1B14V_@andrew.cmu.edu> rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Robert Edward Timlin) writes:

>   C'mon people! If you're using the transporter, have it power surge during
>an ion storm or something and beam him through time. Heck, the same thing
>beamed them across dimensions in "Mirror, Mirror", then why not time? Plus,
>it's REVERSIBLE (theoretically). Sheesh, they wouldn't even have to be creative
>with that one. ARGH.

I agree, your suggestion is more plausible than being held in
molecular stasis for 70+ years.  Here's another:  While beaming up to
the ship from Starfleet HQ (in San Francisco), Scotty is caught up in
the temporal distortion caused by the return of the crew from their
adventure in Time's Arrow II.  Picard & company rematerialize in the
24th Century with a very upset Scottish crewman in their midst.

If this looks familiar to anyone, you must have read this idea when I
posted it to rec.arts.startrek.creative about a month ago.  Any
Paramount people out there listening to us fans?  I've seen several
other ideas that are at least a plausible as the two in this post, and
all more plausible than being held in the pattern buffer for seven
decades.

Scott
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From: sprackle@rel8.ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Spracklen)
Subject: Fake Spoiler #223,432
Organization: ncsa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:02:25 GMT
Keywords: ouch.

Everyone dies (as in an unnamed Brit sci fi show) except Data
(who gets work as an ATM in San Fransisco and helps foil money
laundering operations) and Worf (who can later be found working in
an all night diner under the name Debby).

Dave Spracklen
(sorry about all these parenthetical statements)
From: schamber@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Babylon 5 in Canada???
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:24:09 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

All that stuff about Babylon 5 look pretty interesting, but there is 
something I'm not sure about.

If I understand correctly, Warner is trying to start little by little
a new network. So I guess they try to form an association with
independant stations, right?

So I guess we in Canada don't have much chance of seeing this new series
before long...
(It wouldn't be a syndicated show, would it?)

Does it mean also that Fox stations are unlikely to present Babylon 5?

If so, I guess my last hope just vanished... (in the Toronto area, we
get FOX 29 from Buffalo) 

Let's hope we'll still get DS9 from FOX 29 and/or CITY-TV (Toronto)...

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: One more reason to hate "Cost of Living"?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:36:57 GMT

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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:32:25 GMT

i heard that it involved an egg beater, spandex socks and a very startled
goat.

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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: One more reason to hate "Cost of Living"?
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:45:00 GMT
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In article <1992Aug18.231255.8341@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes...
>In article <1992Aug18.174544.8946@news.unomaha.edu> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>>tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu  writes:
>>	A little defense for this episode.  It was bad, ok, I'll grant you
>>that.  But, I tell people it was a sympathy episode for Majel Barret for the
>>loss of her husband.  Fans mourned over the loss, but we didn't feel the loss
>>as bad as she did.  How would we feel if we lost a loved one or someone close.
>>I think Rick Berman had to cheer up Majel and gave her an episode where
>>she could tell viewers what she felt after the loss of Gene, at least thats
>>what I think.  Anyone else? :-)
> 
>People die every day. Does TNG give every one of their loving ones an
>episode to air their grief? What makes Ms. Barrett any more deserving
>of an ENTIRE EPISODE devoted to "cheering her up?" 

uh, could it be that she was GENE RODDENBERRY'S wife?  i mean, he wasn't
JUST ANYONE....

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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who Might Play Sisco?
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:40:48 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


I thought they were going to follow the lead of TNG and hire
relatively unknown actors to fill the remainder of the cast.
This was a cost saving measure, since big stars want big
salaries.  Paramount was able to sign TNG cast for 6 years
at a relatively low salary, compared to other actors in
popular 1-hour dramas.

This makes me doubt the James Earl Jones rumor.  Although I think
it would be great and he would be a strong lead to rival Picard,
Paramount's desire to save money on actors goes counter to this.


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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- [DUMB ASS SPOILER REMOVED]!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:04:55 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

In article <1992Aug19.070812.21689@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu (Jonathan Sheir) writes:
>
>I just recently found out from a reliable source that Geordi will be killed
>in the premiere in an attempt to save Data's life.  LeVar Burton wished to
>leave and the writers thought it would be a good way to send him off  It will
>give Data more of an appreciation as to what friendship really is.

Hey, moron,

Haven't you ever heard of the SPOILER warning? You know, there are 
some of us out here that don't want to know these thing ahead of time.
The suprise of it is half the fun. 

If this turns out not to be true, then no sweat. If it *is* true, then
you, sir, are a dickhead.

Thanks again for ruining it.

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From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Measure of a Man
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:12:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <1B0gPB1w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>
>> 
>> 
>> Second, Data had *apply* to the academy, just like any other cadet.  It
>> was even pointed out that Commander Dickhead was the only member of
>> the board that screens applicants that didn't want to allow him to attend.

Something that bugs me about that.  In "Redemption II," Data states that he's
been in Starfleet for 27 years.  Now Maddox didn't look older than 35, so 
Maddox was a member of this board screening applicants even before he 
hit double digits?  Looks like somebody wasn't doing their homework in
"RII," cause that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Hmmmm.....

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From: "robert sartain" <robert.sartain@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: tng in "stay tuned"
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:33:36 EST
Reply-To: "robert sartain" <robert.sartain@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

   Near the end of the new John Ritter / Pam Dawber film "Stay Tuned" is
a brief parody of TNG that is pretty funny.  I think they got the music
down rather well, especially.  If you're going to see the movie anyway,
look for it, although I'm not sure I'd pay $6.75 *just* to see that one
90 second scene.
   -Rob.
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From: niche@ssd.intel.com (Dominic Allori)
Subject: Re: The Price...
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:14:18 GMT

In article <9208142027.AA00271@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu> asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher) writes:
>
>> From rkpeck@mosaic.uncc.edu Fri Aug 14 11:43:16 1992
>> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:38:59 EDT
>> From: rkpeck@mosaic.uncc.edu (Jr Peck)
>> Message-Id: <9208141538.AA04742@mosaic.uncc.edu>
>> To: asher@cis.ohio-state.edu
>> 
>> Subject: Re: The Price...
>> Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
>> In-Reply-To: <9208101957.AA03588@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu>
>> References: <7811@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>
>> Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> And how about the other GROSS inconsistency?  In the episode about
>> the holodeck malfunction when Data is Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty
>> takes control of the ship.  When he (moriarty) draws a picture of the
>> Enterprise on the piece of paper and Data carries the paper out of
>> the holodeck!  The paper was a holographic creation and should not have
>> been capable of existing outside of the holodeck!  Oh well - guess we need
>> to bear the relatively few errors they make.....*sigh*
     
   REPLY
   The holodeck is capable of creating holographic images as well as real
   objects, with the use of the replicaters.  So wouldn't you think that
   the holodeck is capable of creating a real piece of paper.  The computer
   was malfunctioning, so technically the writer may have had that in mind.
   I don't think you can call that an error.

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From: gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:02:04 GMT
	<1992Aug11.021000.27396@oracle.us.oracle.com>
	<BstIow.KCD@acsu.buffalo.edu> <wb9omc.713806368@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: Computer Training & Support Services, Colorado State University

Geez, folks, are we *still* on this tired old thread?

While I'm here, though, I repeat: BEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott
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From: schamber@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY)
Subject: Re: Dolphins!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:22:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.145736.28316@dsd.es.com> bmadsen@dsd.es.com (Bruce Madsen) writes:
>I was rather amused to find the following statement in the "ST:TNG
>Technical Manual" (page 44, under "Guidance and Navigation"):
>
[statement about dolphins deleted] 
>
>I really wish they hand included "smileys" after this, so that I could
>tell if they were serious or not. But...
>
>During the recent rerun of "The Perfect Mate", I noticed the
>following:
>
>There's a scene where one of the Ferengi rudely barges in on the Capt,
>the Ambassador (forget his name), and Geordi in the hallway. Picard
>manages to get the ambassador away (into a turbolift) and asks Geordi
>to take care of the Ferengi. Geordi then says to the Ferengi (more or
>less): "Have you seen the Dolphins? You gotta see the Dolphins". 
>
>What Fun!
>
>I wonder if this is another takeoff on Douglas Adams or David Brin
>(ala the Dolphin Crew in _Startide Rising_)?

What do you mean, "another takeoff"???

Do you mean there were other borrowings to Brin?         

(BTW I just finished _Startide Rising_.  It was good...)

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From: alex@crystal.ipac.caltech.edu (Alex Werner)
Subject: Re: Crew Eccentricities
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:54:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.201314.18703@cs.wayne.edu> delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge) writes:
>In article <BsvDCA.2q4@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.203551.6025@msdhsv.ingr.com>, foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com writes...
>>>(Roberta Rheaume (CPB)) writes:
>>>|> [...]
>>>|> BTW, why do all the women on ST:TNG have traditional (1992) jobs:
>>>|> 
>>>|> Guinan - waitress
>>>|> Crusher - nurse/doctor
>>>|> Troi - social worker (with bad taste in clothes)
>>>|> 
>>> 
>>>It seems like nobody likes the jobs females have, but when they
>>>have jobs of less traditional roles, nobody likes the characters
>>>(Tasha, Shelby, Rho).  I would bet part of the problem lies in us
>>>the viewers.           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>BINGO! :)
>>precisely why a strong woman is considered a "bitch," a strong man, "macho."
>>(where the hell did THAT tangent come from? :)
>>
> Must Have been that Romulan Ale!!! *smile*
>>   sandra guzdek + username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu + til 28 Aug 1992 
I think it is too easy to throw a feminist interpretation onto this. As a
matter of fact, although I am a teenage male, I think Shelby was one of the
best characters ever... certainly a _huge_ improvement on Riker. And while it
is true that I don't much care for Tasha, that is simply because Denise
Crosby couldn't act her way out of proverbial paper bag. I certainly agree
that it is ridiculous that all the female characters have traditional
female roles, but I don't think that all the male viewers would be shocked
by anything else...
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From: HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia Ellan Kosatka)
Subject: New Season - Where ARE You???
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:28:11 GMT
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This week: Imaginary Friend (ugh, and so soon after Cost of Living)
Then: I, Borg (yeah!)
      The Next Phase (not bad)
      Inner Light (double yeah!)
      Time's Arrow I (aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!)

Then (sigh) The New Season!  

At least there will be some *new* bit of trivia to beat to death. :-)

I wasn't netting last summer, are they always this, well, the way this 
summer's been? 


Julia Kosatka
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: One more reason to hate "Cost of Living"?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:12:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.174544.8946@news.unomaha.edu> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu  writes:
>	A little defense for this episode.  It was bad, ok, I'll grant you
>that.  But, I tell people it was a sympathy episode for Majel Barret for the
>loss of her husband.  Fans mourned over the loss, but we didn't feel the loss
>as bad as she did.  How would we feel if we lost a loved one or someone close.
>I think Rick Berman had to cheer up Majel and gave her an episode where
>she could tell viewers what she felt after the loss of Gene, at least thats
>what I think.  Anyone else? :-)

People die every day. Does TNG give every one of their loving ones an
episode to air their grief? What makes Ms. Barrett any more deserving
of an ENTIRE EPISODE devoted to "cheering her up?" 


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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who Might Play Sisco?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:03:15 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug21.104732.12203@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot) writes:
> Well, as I post this, none of the cast (beyond Meany and Chao) for DS9
> has made it to my ears, so I thought a little speculation as to who plays
> Sisco might be in order (soon, they're going ot have to pin down the guy's
> name -- I've seen it spelled Sisco, Sisko, Cisco, Cisko, etc.).
> 
> Anyway, here are my ideas:
> 
> 	*  Lou Gossett, Jr. -- This still seems pretty likely.  He's riding
>            the beginnings of a comeback wave w/ Diggstown and we know that
> 	   he'll do science-fiction and sf television (_Enemy_Mine_ and
> 	   Powers of Matthew Star).
> 
> 	*  James Earl Jones -- This was probably just a rumor, so I won't
> 	   dwell on it other than to say that he'd make an amazing captain,
> 	   IMHO.
> 
> 	*  ????I forget his name???? -- The actor from Revenge of the Nerds
> 	   and I'm Gonna Get You Sucka (he played Slade).  He's a familiar
> 	   face, playing in a million shows and movie,but doesn't have much
> 	   acting range, IMHO.
> 
> How 'bout some of the younger actors?
> 
> 	*  Denzel Washington -- Well, he's done TV, but I think he's getting
> 	   to big for it to come back just yet.  I'd have to say no.
> 
> 	*  Eddie Murphy -- Another I doubt. We all know that he is a huge
> 	   ST fan and was begging to have a role in STIV, but he wouldn't
> 	   be a regular.
> 
> 	*  Wesley Snipes -- Too young, too good for ST.
> 
> 
> Any more ideas?

Here are a couple I've had:
	
	*  Terry Carter -- an extremely good actor who was completely
	   under- and mis-used as Colonel Tigh in Battlestar Galactica.

	*  (aargh! I've forgetten his name!) -- played Lando in Star Wars,
	   Harvey Dent in Batman, and lots of other good parts.

And, last but not least:

	*  Mr. T!  I won't even comment on this one. :-)
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From: herd@lut.fi (Markku Herd)
Subject: Re: 25 anniversary game h
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:51:38 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

"Bernie Wong" <Bernie.Wong@Canrem.Com> Writes:

>>  Why Should One Do It In Such A Difficult Way? Simply Ask The
>>Enterprise'S Computer About Base 3, And The Answer Is In Front Of
>>Your Eyes.

>Are You Saying That As A Joke Or Is That Actually A Way To Solve That
>Puzzle In The 25th Anniversary Game?


  No Joke. Honest. Try It! It'S Definitely Simplier And More Logical
(Heh) Than Using A Calculator. It's The 23rd Century, After All!


(Damned modem server... don't mind those Initials!)

- Markku Herd ( herd@lut.fi )
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Subject: Kirk References In TNG?
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 02:46:49 GMT


   I remember at least three references to Kirk and crew in TNG:
   1) McCoy's appearance on the first episode.
   2) Mention of "James T. Kirk commanding" when dealing with the "insanity
      disease" or whatever it was.
   3) Spock.

   Has their actually ever been any images of Kirk used in TNG? Not that it
really matters, but I thought it would be super to have Picard stumble
across one of Kirk's captain's logs - perhaps his last. Maybe a sentimental
farewell. <Sniff><Sniff><Cry><Cry>

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