From: xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: response to "cease fire" call (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:19:39 GMT
Reply-To: xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <29ECAF1B.4728@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>Disclaimer:  In this message, "you" does not means all the readers but those
>	     Xu Hao like guys.

How lucky I am! Now my name becomes a brand (like McDonald :-)) From now on,
I claim any use of my name for profitable purpose, including using it
in exechange for salaries, constitute a violation of personal right and I
reserve all my right of taking legal action against such abuse.

:-)))

>As the response to the cease fire call, This will be the final mesg i post to 
>this group on the subject issue.  Like it or not, i will no longer post 
>follow-ups.  But, we (I and my supporters) will retain the right to take 
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>actions in against the actions from the "pro-6.4-blood-card" communities.

Hi, you are using Yang(smog)Mu(curtain)Dan(bomb) before retreating, aren't you?
Where is your heroisitc "... then switch to me" when you kissed ChiFang's ass?

Your supportS? How did you invent the funny term! I love it! Even if your
SCC comerade Scott didn't render much support to you, (feel betrayed? well,
next time he will "support" you :-)) and your ex-classmate
againsted your assertion that it was students caused the killing. Your
supportS? Ha,aha... Sure, LiPeng will support you in China. But here on SCC,
you are just Gu(single)Jia(home)Gua(few)Ren(person).

>1.  It is NOT china but you who is in need of green card.  Your green card
>    is for your pernonal use only (i am sure the INS will tell you that 
>    green card is non-transferable). 

I am always amused when I see Shannon's stupid illogical claims. Who says
China needs green card?

>Therefore, linking China to your
>    personal green card things is not ethical.

Seems apologizing for killer is a more glorious and ethical practice.

>2.  If 6.4 crackdown is really that much dangerous, why you are here talking
>    with me (you should have gone to Marx's hometown already)? 

Unfortunately, I was not in Beijing that time. Otherwise, I propably
were lying on cold cement and you then could enjoy a better SCC life.
Blame it on your Karl Marx, ask why he didn't pull me there :-))

>Why Shuren
>    can come to the US to join SCC?  So, use 6.4 as an execuse to get your 
>    green card is NOT ethical.

Sure you don't wnat your classmate died so early, do you? Otherwise who
will render you his 30% support? :-))

>3.  We do notice the bloodshed in 6.4 of 1989. 

"We do" :-)) And "notice" :-)) What's your opinion on 6/4? You think
it was students caused the killing! But Shannon, make it clear. The "you"
here is you Shannon only. No one else agrees with you, and you got better
to change "We" to "I", otherwise, your "supporterS :-))" will complain
you put words into their mouth :-)) I suggest you to obtain ratification
from your "supportS" before saying "We do blah blah ..." :-)) so as to
avoid any legal problem.

>4.  We also noticed that you need jobs and opportunities.  But, since you
>    are hanging around for surviving, why do you have to label yourself
>    as democracy fighters?

Yeh, sure. And you made it one step earlier, didn't you? :-)) BTW, may I 
ask what you are doing in netix? Free service? Since you are hanging the
job for surviving, why advocate the so-called 4-big-freedom?

>    /_   /\    /       -------|     |    |      |---| |-----|    -------/
>    /_  /--\   |----|  _______|    \| ---|---   |---| |-----|          |
>         |-|   |====|  |           /|    |      |---| |-----|      ----|----
>    __/  |_|   |____|  |_______\    | ___|___   |  \|_________        \|

Sure you don't need it, because you run away safely.

>6.  History will be history, nobody can change it.  Wht you have done in the 
>    US will be remebered by people like me.  Unless I die earlier than you do,
>    you won't be able to realize your dirty ambition.  I.e, if shity-es like 
>    you become the Chinese leaders, i'll manage to bomb you.  

Blackmail? We don't buy it.

>7.  My early points (such as red card, blood card, etc.) on the subject issue
>    stays valid.

Including "the students caused killing"?

>8.  On personal level, i retain my right to resell Xu Hao's grandmother and
>    Cao\ his mother.

It was you launched personal attack on me at the first place. So far, I have
been limiting my count-attack at exactly the place you attacked me. But if
you want to expand the battlefield, that's fine. I know you don't mind 
people fucking your grandmother and your mother, because they have already
been fucked by thousands of people.

>9.  I will kill all the incoming articles from Xu Hao.  This guy is less
>    capable than Kuai Dafu in terms of ZaoFan ability; and is less capable
>    than anyone in this SCC group in terms of making defense/offense arguments.

Ha,ha,... Sure you are a ZaoFan pioneer and personal-attack expert. But
why do you escape? Oh, "we are not escaping, we are not retreating, it is
only a stragetical shift. It is the Long March in 90'" :-))

>10. By today, i have made lots of points (you may like some of them, and you
>    may dislike all of them), but, how many points that Chicken-thief Xu Hao
>    has made?  

You made points? How can you call shit a point? FYI, let me refresh your
memory and remind you my points:

1) It was the CCP ordered 6/4 massacre.
2) CCP must take the whole responsibilities/consenquences of 6/4.
3) Those Shannon alike CCP ass-kissing apologists and fact-distroting liars
   are not qualified to talk about 6/4.
4) The CCP and those who says it was the students caused the killing are
   6/4 blood suckers, not those applies for green card thru the provosion.
   So far, besides CCP, only Shannon is eligible for this title.
5) At present time, while the CCP is still prosecuting dissidents in
   China, there is nothing unethical to seek permant residency in the
   US through political reason.
6) CCP is not only responsible for 6/4 massacre, but also for the current
   political repression in China and for forcing CSSers staying in the US.
7) I open my mind to any idea. I will not kill anyone's article including
   the XiaoZhaZhong Shannon's. I reserve my right of counter-attack any
   personal attack Shannon made/makes/will make on me, including my little
   hobby of having fun with his grand/mother.

Hao
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