From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: LET'S RESCUE THE AMIGA!! WAS C= speaks!!! let's spread the word
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:45:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: University of Delaware

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I posted a question three days ago about networking 6 a500's to a 3000
>and have of yet only received _TWO_ responses (thanks for your
>response guys).  Maybe this doesn't seem odd to you BUT IT'S DAMN
>FRIGHTENING TO ME!  Maybe it was my fault.   Maybe my subject line was
>too hard to  weed through all the C= speaks!!! let's spread the word
>posts.  Maybe COMMODORE'S BIGWHIGS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN NETWORKING.  IT SEEMS
>OBVIOUS AS ACCOURDING TO A POST BY ONE OF THEIR NETWORKING GURUS THEY
>_ONLY_ EMPLOY _THREE_ PEOPLE IN THIS CAPACITY. It seems to me that the

     Well, maybe those three people are busy developing products and
don't have time to sit around reading news all the time?  Ever hear of
SANA-II?  It's not at all unusual to ask a question and only get one
or two responses; even a few years ago when the net was crawling with
Amigans and the machine was still way ahead of its competition.  Blaming
Commodore for a lack of responses isn't very reasonable.

>If we still subscribe to the notion that the Amiga is worth the
>trouble (I'd say it is) maybe people with the means (Arthur C. Clarke,
>Todd Rundgren, and other people with millions more than me) could lead
>a buyout attempt in the good American tradition.  I know I would buy
>some stock even with my paltry reserves.  Are there other people who
>would?
>
>Mr. Gould (That's the bosses name right?) bailed out commodore,
>apparently when noone else would, right?  Well, I think this time the
>Amiga needs not a bail-out,  IT NEEDS A RESCUE!  AND WE THE AMIGA
>COMMUNITY ARE JUST THE PEOPLE FOR THE JOB!!
>

     Todd R. is a Mac fanatic who only likes the Amiga for the Toaster.

     In any case, forcing Gould out would be near impossible.  He and his
cronies (Mehdi Ali, etc.) control too much of the stock for themselves.
However, our job might be done for us by Gould himself:  I've heard
that his shares are for sale.  That won't rid us of Mehdi or the others,
but it's a big step in the right direction.

>Oh, BTW, if you're looking to network, the only reasonable soloution
>is with the amiga implementation of SLIP called AmigaNOS.  AGAIN NOT A
>C= PRODUCT BUT THE PRODUCT OF ANOTHER BRILLANT MEMBER OF THE AMIGA
>COMMUNITY. 

     No, Commodore makes ethernet and arcnet boards as well as TCP/IP
software, and if I'm not mistaken they also funded some of Oxxi's 
development of its Amiga Novell Client Software.  And again, the SANA-II
specification was just recently finished (Standard Amiga Networking
Architecture); it will likely provide the basis for quite a few
networking products.


     Followups concerning networking to .datacomm.
     Followups concerning CBM management to .advocacy.

     (Can we all guess which one will earn more followups? :-)


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