HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Thanks for 7 inches
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<15906@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:39:13 GMT

johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>In article <BzA2Fq.Esz@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>|Careful with those Snow Gods, pal! Last time I sacrificed *anything*
>|to them, we got 30 inches at Killington. Ah, a whole week of powder
>|skiing.

>|Which was real fun when my psycho friends took me on the monster mogul
>|run, yay.  Wheeeee.... SPLAT! THUD! Bounce, bounce, bounce.

>The best sign I've seen at a ski resort is one at the top of one of the
>advanced runs at Mammoth.  It reads, "When your friends say go, you have
>the right to say no. The life you save may be your own."  

I used to go skiing with a group of friends who included a huge Russian-
American guy named Ilya.  Ilya was an intermediate skier on his good days,
but due to poor signs, he ended up one day with a choice between going
down a hard route which looked very icy and crowded, or a mogul run which
looked just impossible to him (I don't think he'd ever even tried moguls
at all) and was totally deserted.  He didn't have any illusions about his
skill and felt his options were grim.  Being a practical person who never
worried much about what other people thought of him, he decided to take
the safe way down, so he _slid_ down the mogul run on his back with his
head pointing down the slope and his skis up in the air.  He said the 
bumps weren't very comfortable, but he was distracted from thinking about
it by the whoops of laughter from the ski lift above him.  He was quite
pleased with himself for not breaking any bones, and he got a great story
out of it -- we laughed ourselves sick at the mental image.

---Julie
-- 
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|   Pigs and goats alike care nothing for the opera.                |
|       			--- Tom Weller, _Minims_            |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance.chat,alt.romance,alt.personals
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Subject: Re: The TygerBoink Committee would like to thank you
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:28:06 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <92352.123544AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> Lisa Mae <AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:

>You didn't ask. *wink* 8-)    Besides, I didn't kiss anybody.  I just
>*hugged* some people and slapped one person(Rip), and Started and Finished
>a *tickle* war.  It's too bad DK couldn't come.  You could of seen all the
>squirming forms trying to avoid the *tickling* fingers. *grin* It was fun.
>
>Lisa Mae (Ariel)
>I'm sending this to all these groups, but I mainly only read Alt.romance.chat
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>so if you want to catch me, that's where I post the most. *grin*

Why does this not come as a surprise?

Do these people have to caption all of their posts for the
imagination-impaired, or is there something about being able
to type asterisks without setting Unix meltdowns that
sets them off?
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:48:35 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:

>Hmmm.  I have gotten the impression from some women that a guy
>expressing interest in them is somewhat of an invasive thing, at least
>in the sense that if she gave no indication of interest on her part,
>his interest is most unexpected and unwelcome.  I don't know if it is
>just me, but I tend not to feel that my "space" has been entered if
>someone's interested in me.  On the other hand, I am not approached by
>jerks and slime constantly who (may be) threatening my safety, so
>that's why I may be more open.

Whether you feel invaded depends both on the way someone approaches you 
(low-key? aggressive? interested in you as a person? interested in just
sex?). It also depends on your level of interest in being approached. If 
you aren't approached often and consider it an ego-boost when it happens, 
you are less likely to mind than someone who is approached all the time 
and takes it for granted. 

Furthermore, *where* someone gets approached makes a difference to some
people. I like being approached in social situations like parties, but if
someone approaches me at a bar I get suspicious because I make different
assumptions about what kind of interest they have in me. 
-- 
Stef                Just as there are laws of Conservation of Matter and
stef@apple.com      Energy, so there are in fact Laws of Conservation of 
                    Pain and Joy. Neither can ever be created or destroyed.
                         But one can be converted into the other. 
                                                         --Spider Robinson
Xref: sparky soc.singles:33600 ba.singles:2581
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:09:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:

>     If I presented her with a contract, I would tell her that we could
>negotiate the terms.

I'd much rather negotiate the terms of what sexual activities we engage in
than the terms of a contract. There are lots of sexual activities that
don't involve penis-vagina contact, and thus avoid pregnancy pretty effectively.

The interesting thing about this alternative is that I am wiling to venture
many women find men who can negotiate sexual activities *more* attractive
than men who assume fucking should be the point of the whole exercise. Whereas
this thread has shown that people who propose sex contracts seem *less*
attractive.  
 
--
Stef                  I'll take Fucking Clues for $200.   --Mark
stef@apple.com
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Kissing Frogs
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:18:48 GMT
	<MARTINC.92Dec14202234@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Dec16.210341.7365@netcom.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: cocoa@netcom.com's message of 16 Dec 92 21:03:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.210341.7365@netcom.com> cocoa@netcom.com writes:

   >I'm not sure, actually.  I've just been suffering from the delusion that
   >*I* might be the person Beth was talking about ....

   Suffering from delusions, eh?

This is a joke, right?

   So tell me *Dr.*, is that your medical opinion?  
              ^^^^^

Not till next semester.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Am I banished?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:23:11 GMT
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Dec12.043136.28343@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
> (especially the ones that prominently
> featured the dominatrix of honor)

My housemate told me of a wedding that she went to where the couple's dogs
were in the wedding party.  They wore garlands of flowers around their
necks and accompanied the bride down the aisle.  Now I want to get a dog
so I can have a bitch of honor.  That would tie in well with a medieval
theme, don't you think?

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: New Relationships...
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:19:27 GMT

In article 724227891@cwis, oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec9.182323.23707@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes...
>>>In article <1992Dec9.022705.4868@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>[Deleted: Lengthy thread about how princes tend to turn into frogs and that
>occasionally a frog can turn into a prince, although you do have to kiss a 
>lot of frogs first.]

[more items deleted about getting it on with slugs]

>Now, here's a question I've wanted to ask.  I mean, I realize that both men
>and women like sex a lot, but it seems to me that there are a lot of guys
>out there who just want sex.  I once dated a guy who dumped me when he 
>figured out that I wasn't about to jump into bed with him.  (I just don't
>immediately want to sleep with everyone I date.  And it usually takes me a 
>while to get comfortable with someone.  That doesn't mean I don't like 
>sex.  I really do.  But it's not the most important part of a relationship
>for me.  
>
>How important /is/ sex to a relationship?

I am speaking for myself, here. Sex is not all that important for me at the very 
beginning of a relationship. As a couple gets more intimate, it is inevitable.
If it doesn't come together, at least I have made a very good platonic friend of 
the opposite sex. Such friends are good for me. Agreed, we all enjoy sex, but I
feel that sex is only good with women that have formed some form of emotional/
intellectual bond with me. 

Sex is most important in a serious relationship, but not necessarily right away.
A bit of anticipation makes any meal taste better!

dreas
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Book
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:46:53 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Dec14.014037.26694@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>Three more chapters makes four! </.)
>
>dreas

Careful, dreas, your Sesame Street training is showing.
  
--j
  
{:-)  for the humor impaired}
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Am I banished?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 04:31:36 GMT

In article <lihhdqINN76a@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>
>What a fabulous idea!  I've been wondering how I was going to manage
>to sneak a pagan wedding in without freaking out the mutant's parents
>(an ex-priest and an ex-nun no less.)  Now if the situation should ever
>happen to happen, I've got a framework to start with.

Always happy to help--I was at a wedding this summer where the groom
wore a white tuxedo shirt and black tuxedo coat, a crimson cummerbund,
and fluorescent lime-green shorts (the scary thing is that this outfit
actually looked quite good on him); anyway, you could show the parental
units some pictures from that wedding (especially the ones that prominently
featured the dominatrix of honor) and then a pagan wedding would seem
quite ordinary by comparison.

Trygve   (Of course, out here, pagan weddings are more the rule than the
          exception.)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Victims of Denial!!!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:52:50 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec10.214852.16800@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
|] |I hate to tell you this, but RealWomen[tm] do NOT go to bars.
|] |Only Cheap Sleazy Hussys will be found any place that
|] |Demon Alcohol will be found!
|] 
|] That's funny.  I went to Postrio's (a bar) last weekend and I really don't
|] consider myself a "Cheap, Sleazy, Hussy".
|] 
|] Lisa Haupt
|] Stanford Pediatrics
|] "the seahag"
|
|Just Because you are still in the Denial Phase of
|all of this, does NOT mean that you need to broadcast
|it to the net.....
|
|Now stop and take the following test:
|
|1. Do You consider Orgasm to be an Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
|2. Would you willingly Engage in this Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
|3. Are You Currently NOT Seeking TheCure for this Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
|4. Do you associate with People who engage in this Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
|5. Have You ever sought privacy to engage in this Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
|6. Have you ever used liquor, candy, ice cream or promises of allowing
|the other person control of the TV remote to engage in this 
|Addictive/Obsessive Behavior?
|
 
Hey, where's all that help that you talked about in that last article
about finding a RealWoman(tm) for John?  Why didn't you ask her if
she was willing to meet John?   Are you saying that Lisa is not a
RealWoman(tm)?

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Truth
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:59:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <DN9uVB5w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
>lothie@syrinx.umd.edu (Lothie) writes:
>> I have a LOVELY definition of Truth that I'd like to share with everyone.
>> 	Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty; that is all
>> 	Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
>> 				-- John Keats
>> 				"Ode on a Grecian Urn"
>Yes, this is nice. The greatest beauty therefore is the greatest truth.
>That is God, the Absolute Truth, Who is absolute beauty.

Which, for the question "Is this beautiful?" is perfectly valid.

It may even be true for things like God or Spiritual Enlightenment.

It is most decidedly *not* true for things like starvation in Somalia.  Or
even "there are twelve people in that room" which, at best, is asthetic
neutral.

I like the idea of catergories of truths:

1) Objective truth:  that is a rock, there are twelve people in the room,
etc.
2) Scientific theory:  (Yes, actually I did shamelessly steal this, why?)
Gravity, eveolution, etc.  Said to be true, and good working assumptions,
but changeable.
3) Subjective truth: That feels good.  Rape is bad.  Indisputable, but not
true for everyone.
4) Agreed truth:  I before E except after C.  Jesus is the Savior.  My
name is Big Al.  Etc...

ObSex:  If beauty was truth, would cindy crawford be more true than me?

Big Al.  Agreed, of course...
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Am I banished?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:34:50 GMT
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Dec11.191746.15020@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
> In article <lihhdqINN76a@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
> >
> >This also has the added benefit of seeing the groom in tights.  (I wonder 
> >how many tranquilizers I'd have to slip into my sweetie's coffee before 
> >I could get him to dress up like that and if he'd be able to stand up and 
> >say "I guess so" at the appropriate time.)
> 
> Yeah, Dawn's been married before, so she wouldn't be at all nervous.
> Nope.  Not at all.  No way.

Hee hee hee.  I might have to be drugged to *get* married again (we're 
sorta thinking of having a wedding ceremony and neglecting to get the
license) but I wouldn't have to get drugged to get into the 
costume.

Actually, at my last wedding, (and no, nobody asked but I'm telling you
anyway) I woke up too late, had a run in my hose (wore a miniskirt too)
ran out of nail polish remover and so had one red fingernail, (do your
RING hand first, Lauren), and the smell of the flowers made me want to
puke.  So I was standing there saying, "I'm going to puke, I think I'm
going to puke" and my mother was convinced that it was morning sickness
and kept saying "Why won't you confide in me?" and started crying because
I wouldn't tell her the truth, except that I WAS telling her the truth.
So I waited outside of the judge's chambers alternating "I think I'm 
going to puke" with "I'm really not pregnant Mom, I swear" scratching
frantically at that last scrap of red polish.  Oh, and neither of our 
rings fit.

In retrospect, I should have gone ahead and tossed breakfast.  It might
have saved me a lot of trouble.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:14:12 GMT

In article <15966@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.233933.6617@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>>In article <15932@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>|>I would much prefer a "Thank you very much for dinner tonight.  I had
>|>a wonderful time", and maybe a kiss on the cheek than 25% of the tab and
>|>a handshake.
>|
>|So, John, when are you going to take me to dinner?
> 
>Mel, my sweet, I would be delighted to take you out to dinner.
>
>All I expect in return is air fare, a "thank you very much for dinner 
>tonight. I had a wonderful time", and maybe a blowjob.
>

Now you two have set off my crying meter again.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Strong women in film
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:33:00 GMT

oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes...
SO> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
SO> >farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes...
SO> >LJ> In article <1992Nov8.105051.13498@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mcil.comm
SO> .
SO> >LJ> writes:
SO> >LJ> >
SO> >LJ> >Actually, last night I saw 'Basic Instinct' and thought it was an exce
SO> t
SO> >LJ> >film with very strong female characters.  I consider it one of the top
SO> >LJ> >for the year. (My SO enjoyed it just as much, and then I got to enjoy
SO> n
SO> >LJ> >when we got home :-)

SO> >LJ> Just a coincidence that nearly all the lesbian and bisexual women are
SO> >LJ> killers?

SO> >Just like it's a coincidence that all the men in "Thelma and Louise" are ei
SO> >killers, rapists, or bigots...?

SO> Hey!  Deal with it, Will!  It's a *movie*.

Well, this is just a *little* unfair, Sharon.  After all, if you were told an
offensive joke about women, or a movie which made offensive generalisations
about women, would *you* stand for someone saying "Get with it!  It's JUST A
MOVIE" or "It's JUST A JOKE!"?

Indeed, many gay and lesbian activists are *not* accepting the people who are
saying "It's JUST a movie," about _Basic Instinct_.

SO> Besides, how many times have I
SO> gone to the movies, only to see women stereotyped as bimboes or idiots.  So
SO> you have to sit through two hours of Thelma and Louise.

"Two wrongs do not make a right".  I'd rather eliminate *all* stereotypes,
rather than "get revenge on men".


SO> Just because the men in Thelma and Lousie are either killers, rapists, or
SO> bigots doesn't mean that *all* men are killers, rapists or bigots.  It's jus
SO> that the men that Thelma and Louise had to deal with happened to be.

..but this is also what detractors of Queer Nation, said about the issue of gays
and lesbians in _Basic Instinct_, ie., "it doesn't mean that ALL gays and lesbia
are killers".

---
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"Cthulhu for President in '92 - Why vote for the _lesser_ of two evils?"
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:02:48 GMT
	<1992Dec9.184132.16918@schbbs.mot.com>
	<1992Dec10.151740.263@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec10.213129.6300@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu's message of 10 Dec 92 21:31:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.213129.6300@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:

   Hmmm.  Interesting.  Voices.

   This is interesting (to me) because I was just having a conversation
   with a male friend about voices.  He remarked about my voice saying that
   if it wasn't THE sexiest voice he had ever heard, it was a close second
   or tie. He described it as very soft, rounded, intimate and inviting
   of intimacy (Hi, sweets.  I DID ask if I could quote you!)  


So what's your phone number?
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:32:57 GMT

In article <Dec.16.17.21.03.1992.1642@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.231202.11365@netcom.com> madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
>>Allow me to add my voice to the clamor.  Should I be presented
>>with Mr. Tickle Monster's Pre-Sex Contract, said presenter would
>>not ever get another date with me.  I wouldn't even bother
>>"negotiating" terms.  I'd just tell him "Hasta la vista, baby."
>
>I'm beginning to think Mr. Monster's contract is of some use after
>all.  We've now identified a population of local single women who
>refuse to date him.  Just think of all the face-to-face rejection other
>men have to experience to get that far...
>

     It is great for me, because now I know who not to ask out, saving
me time and other resources.  By the way, I do not think that I could
use the contract anyway because I believe that it is not enforceable.

>Sadly for Tickle, I think the only women who said they would sign his
>PSC are already taken.
>

-- 
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