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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Summary: haven't seen it
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:48:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.184231.21894@athena.mit.edu>, kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan) writes:
>      5c.  In the ENTIRE history of US TV commericals, you have 
>           never seen a woman buying a gift for a man.
>  
>  
> 	marc colten
> 
> 	The new Bugle Boy commercial.

I haven't seen it, but I'll look for it.  Someone left a posting
about it though.  One thing (okay I'm being cynical) - in the
mens commercial I mentioned - the man buys the woman something 
she really wants (diamonds) - in this one (as it was described
to me) she tells him he's been dressing like a geek for 10 years
and she knows better.  Couldn't she just have gotten him a
Rolex? :-)

marc colten
From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Does USA cut all the "Oh boys?"
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:32:50 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

In article <1992Dec31.052400.4461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

> Since I've moved back home (grrr) after graduating, back to a house
> with cable, I've been able to watch a few of the USA QL episodes.
> I've noticed that the leap outs don't have the patented "Oh boy" at
> the end.  Is USA cutting these or was this less common earlier in the series?

This was less common early on in the series as the leap out/in phrase.
Although, it is used in the Pilot episode (Genesis). Actually, Al has
used it quite a few times, though I think he prefers the phrase
"Nozzle". 

				John
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From: bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
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Subject: QL: Creation Problems?
Date: 2 Jan 1993 20:51:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Sorry for the sort of deceptive subject line.

If anyone purchased a general admission ticket to last years Leap
con and were not admitted because of overcrowding, the office needs
to know this.  ASAP.  They do not want the same problems that hapened
last year, and need names so they can flash that in front of Creations
face in case the same thing sprouts up this year.  

Apparently more than one person purchased tickets through Ticketron,
went to said hotel for the con, and were not admitted to the con because
the hotel was full to the rafters and beyond.  No, I wasn't there, but
this was told to me by more than one person who attended or couldn't
attend.  To avoid those kind of problems, please post or email me so
I can get the information to the office.  

Just to avoid Creation Crud.

Terri in Cleveland
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From: lsh1@cec2.wustl.edu (Lara S. Hughes)
Subject: Re: Slight time goof in QL:  Promised Land (no real spoilers)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:28:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.200640.16762@midway.uchicago.edu> ied1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>some spoilers follow for "Promised Land"

>
>On a happier note, I rate the almost-high-five in this episode as one
>of the best moments in QL.  anyone agree?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!!  I loved it!  As my roommate said, "It's the best
'visual quote' of the series" (if that makes any sense).  We were rolling
on the floor with laughter and felt obliged to subsequently reinact the scene
for anyone who came into the room late and missed it.  Nice touch!

PS  Hi, Ingrid!

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From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Subject: Re: *Four* show actors
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:16:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.182847.21695@lloyd.Camex.COM>
amy@lloyd.Camex.COM (Amy Lindsay) writes:

   Wasn't he also in that show where they ran around the desert in the
   two jeeps?  Eric Braeden (who used to be Hans Gudegast (I think)) was
   their "evil foil."

   Ah yes, now I remember the name:  The Rat Patrol!

No.  You are thinking of Christopher George, who starred as the
commanding NCO.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
From: HF.ZMF@forsythe.stanford.edu (Miriam Ferziger)
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Subject: Re: *Four* show actors
Date: 29 Dec 1992 10:59:23 -0800
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In article <1hohqcINN7a@uakari.primate.wisc.edu>,
hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel) writes:
>
>John Forsythe
>   BACHELOR FATHER  (Bentley Gregg)
>   TO ROME WITH LOVE  (Michael Endicott)
>   DYNASTY  (Blake Carrington)
>   THE POWERS THAT BE  (Sen. Bill Powers)  first aired 3/92

Don't forget:
    CHARLIE'S ANGELS ([the voice of] Charlie Townsend)

I'm sure he's SO proud of that!
From: sbutler@bogart.uucp (Susan Butler)
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Subject: Re: Where is Lake Edna? (KFC)
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:45:39 GMT
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Organization: ism:c:m/xo

In article <1992Dec18.182611.8410@sol.cs.wmich.edu> Dale@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dale Gee) writes:
>You know how Paul Simon says he doesn't know why but he must go to
>Graceland?
>
>Well, for some strange reason I want to visit the Lake Edna KFC that has
>been featured over the past few months in KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken) tv
>ads.
>
>Does anyone know if Lake Edna really exists?  Where is it?  Inquiring minds
>want to know.
>

I don't know if they were all filmed in the same place or whether they
use different locations, but I read where the add featuring Hammer was
filmed somewhere in Louisiana.  I thought the "real" Lake Edna was
supposed to be in the state of Washington or somewhere cold because
don't some of their adds feature snow?

Susan
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
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Subject: A Different World Question
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:09:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

The syndicated reruns of this program are being shown on WPIX-TV
here in the NYC area.  I noticed they are running the first season
episodes when Lisa Bonet and Marisa Tomei appeared.

I am curious why there were so many changes to the program after the
first season.  Why was Tomei's character dropped?  I remember all of
the problems they had with Lisa Bonet, but it seems the program went
through some major changes.

Another observation was in the first season, Hillman seemed to be an
intergrated school, with white and black students all mixing in the
background.  I know nothing about the college, I always took it for
granted it was an all black school, so watching the first season now 
after seeing all of the other episodes makes for some confusion.

Can anyone give me the story on this program, which appears to be
winding up its network run.


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From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: QL: Al's Saves
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 05:20:52 GMT

ecohn@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:

>Erm....the episode (title escapes me) where Sam leaps into the chap in the
>electric chair.  Al talks to the little girl in the church, and the girl passes
>Al's information on to Sam's attorney, enabling her to find the missing bullet.

He also has Ziggy utilize the hand link to operate as a metal detector
to find the bullet.

Mike
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From: andy@csource.oz.au (andrew gulovsen)
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Subject: "Gilligin" (Re: Repost: Dascoser's Nickname Quiz)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:27:00

 > >...real name as is Gilligan (no last or other name ever given)
 >                                   ^^^

 > When Alan Hale Jr. died some years ago Bob Denver was
 > interviewed. Denver spoke
 > with affection of Hale but did mention a running debate
 > between the two as to
 > whether "Gilligan" was his character's first or last name.
 > (I believe Denver
 > regarded it as a given name, not a family or nick-name with
 > Hale holding to
 > the opposite stance). Everyone agreed that it was the
 > character's only name.

 > ...except perhaps for "little buddy"... ;-)

in the very first ep. (or was it 2nd) when they are sitting on the beach with
the radio on, the radio announcer mentioned the loss of the minnow.. it
mentions the full names of most of those on board..

 ROY BRINKLEY (prof.)
 MARYANNE SUMMERS (maryanne)
 JONAS GRUMBY (skipper)
 WILLY GILLIGAN (gilligan)
 GINGER GRANT   (Ginger)
 THURSTON HOWELL III (guess who :-))
 Mrs ##    ##     ## ("luvy")

ag

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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
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Subject: Top Ten Females on TV  ***UPDATE***
Date: 26 Dec 1992 01:48:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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  So far, I've been swamped with e-mail votes for the best-
looking, heart-stealing women on TV. There are so many candidates
and therefore the race is close. I will only go so afr as to say
that Dana Delany (China Beach, ABC) is in first place. But the
deadlin is midnight on Jan. 2, 1993 (meaning a few of you may 
cast votes immediately after seeing 'Bama beat the 'Canes in the
Sugar Bowl). By the way, my incomplete list from an earlier 
message has now expanded:

1. Kellie Martin, Life Goes On  :)
2. Markiw Post, Hearts Afire
   (I meant Markie)
3. Amy Locane, Melrose Place (why'd they fire her?!?)
4. A.J. Langer, Drexell's Class
5. Eve Gordon, The Powers That Be (NBC)

No, this is not a multiple entry; my Kellie-Bellie will not get 
10 more points (see rules in the earlier message, posted about
40 messages ago). If nobody else votes, you're in for some
surprises! That is all.
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From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Lost "MacGyver" episode???
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:13:48 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Yup, you just missed it.  It was touted as "The Lost Episode" at the time
>it aired, which was sometime in June of 1992 (about a month after "The
>Stringer").
>
>This was the first episode that Bruce McGill (Jack Dalton) has appeared
>in for several years, but the consensus on the MacGyver mailing list was
>that it was filmed this year (7th season) (actually, I went against
>consensus -- I thought it was probably filmed during 6th season, but
>couldn't convince anyone else ;-).
>
>I wish there were more un-aired episodes, but it seems unlikely.  I hear
>rumors of a couple TV movies next year, though...
>
>        Nancy

  I can't imagine ABC showing a rerun when they could very easily
  show a new episode, so I'll go with the concensus, too.
  
  Yup, there's a MacGyver movie on tap for this spring, one of three
  ordered, I think. The first will be MacGyver and the Search for
  Atlantis or something, according to the USA TODAY article about the
  recent TV movie "Eyes of a Stranger".
  
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From: 9072falkk@vms.csd.mu.edu (Kathy Falk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:01:52 GMT
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In article <1992Dec24.171956.12547@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>In article <1hcf4pINNdph@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:
>> 
>> In a previous article, colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) says:
>> >    5c.  In the ENTIRE history of US TV commericals, you have 
>> >         never seen a woman buying a gift for a man.
>> 

What about the Docker's commercial where the guy comes out of the shower and
discovers his closets and drawers have been stripped clean.  Luckily, the 
bed is completely covered with a complete new Docker's wardrode and a note 
from his honey stating that "after 10 years, the only thing I'd change about 
you is your clothes". "'How about starting with this one?'" she suggests 
enticingly from the bedroom doorway.  Not exactly a diamond but I'll bet she 
spent at least three months of her salary on the duds!  
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From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.movies,alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Dune (long version) on WPIX! 
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 02:22:58 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

> I know people constantly ask where to find the long version of Dune
> (on rec.arts.movies anyway) so I feel obliged to announce that WPIX will be 
> broadcasting it at 2am on Friday!
> 
> Rocky Giovinazzo
> giovinaz@icarus.hks.com


 Anyone make a tape?

marlowe

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From: raymond.hodgson@rose.com (raymond hodgson)
Subject: Top Ten Females on TV
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:03:29 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-28-92 19:54

 W(S> From: wong@fraser.sfu.ca (Sam S. Wong)

 W(S> The girl that plays Olivia from Street Legal. (What's her name
 W(S> again?).

        Cynthia Dale.

        Raymond.


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From: gppeter@sgi7.sdrc.com (Peter Bennett)
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Subject: Picket Fences Plot twist
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:32:34 GMT

I just saw a bit of the Thanksgiving show on Picket Fences (rebroadcast
1/1/93).  I loved the plot twist they had for Richard Kiley's father/
grandfather character and the young woman who came with him.  (She's not
a money grabbing floozie, she has Cystic Fibrosis, and a very different
outlook on life that goes with it)

Were there any further appearances of these two in later episodes?
I hope so.  I'll keep watching, but I appreciate any filling in...

BTW, they were a bit heavy handed about how she was 26 and the average 
life expectancy for CF is now about 29, like she had exactly 3 years to
live, and that was it, end of story.  But it was great just to see a 
character with CF, especially an adult.

Thanks!
PDB.
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: REPOST - Highlander flashbacks
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:16:32 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <42596@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:

   Duncan was also in Japan or China visiting a Friend who later (I mean 
  today) is using drugs to control Mortals.  They Fought and Duncan let him
  Live.

				Jorge Delacruz
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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: *Four* show actors
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 29 Dec 92 08:08:14 CST

In article <1hohqcINN7a@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel) writes:
>
>> From: kubey@summit.wpd.sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
>> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.games.trivia
>> Can you name an actor or actress who has been a star on *four* or
>> more successful shows while playing different characters?
>> 
>> Here are the criteria:
>> 
>> 1. Must play a character on each show (4 different characters)
>> 2. All shows must be successful (run for more than 1 year)
>> 3. Cable shows, non-prime-time cartoons, talk shows don't count.
>> 4. The person must be one of the stars (listed in the credits)
>>    in at least half of the shows each season he/she was on.
>> 5. Guest appearances don't count.
>> 
>
>Harry Morgan
>   DECEMBER BRIDE  (Pete Porter)
>   PETE AND GLADYS  (Pete Porter)
>   DRAGNET  (Bill Gannon)
>   HEC RAMSEY  (Dr. Amos Coogan)
>   MASH  (Col. Sherman Potter)

Don't forget (AFTER MASH) although I doubt it ran for more than one season
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From: 6042230@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Eight is Enough question
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:49:44 GMT

I believe she died in real life also. Her name was Diane (can't remember
her last name).

Donna


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From: AVRK90@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Kevin Cox)
Subject: Eight is Enough question
Organization: Motorola
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:48:30 MST

I know this is WAY old, but I've been watching the reruns of Eight is
Enough lately and have a question.  In the first episodes Joan Bradford
(the actual wife/mother) was on the show, then all of a sudden she's
gone.  In later episodes they mention that she died.  I don't remember
an episode that dealt with her death.  Anyone know what she died of?
Was she just written out of the show or what??

Thanks for the help!

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
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Subject: Re: *Four* show actors
Keywords: ba ba ba
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:20:31 GMT
Organization: .

(David Barton) writes:
>
>   >> Here are the criteria:
>   >> 
>   >> 1. Must play a character on each show (4 different characters)
>   >> 2. All shows must be successful (run for more than 1 year)
>   >> 3. Cable shows, non-prime-time cartoons, talk shows don't count.
>   >> 4. The person must be one of the stars (listed in the credits)
>   >>    in at least half of the shows each season he/she was on.
>   >> 5. Guest appearances don't count.
>   >> 
>
>Robert Conrad:
>
>Hawiian Eye
>The Wild Wild West
>The D.A.
>High Mountain Rangers
>
>I think I am missing at least one here, and more like two.  Assingment
>Vienna?  Another one that had him as a P.I. and ex-boxer?
>
>					Dave Barton

For Pete's sake man!!  Does "Ba Ba Black Sheep" ring a bell?!!?
I was in grade school, used to dream about those Flying Tigers.
Geesh!

--J.J.
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From: nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin)
Subject: Re: Lost "MacGyver" episode???
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:15:19 GMT

In article <Dec.21.13.26.24.1992.13343@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
|>nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin) writes:
|>
|>>In article <92355.192727U20190@uicvm.uic.edu> <U20190@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|>>>     I just saw a "MacGyver" episode on USA called "The Mountain of
|>>>Youth", in which Mac & Dalton are in a central Asian country looking for
|>>>a sacred fountain. The coyright date was 1992, but as I recall the only
|>>>episode originally aired in '92 was the series finale ("The Stringer").
|>>>Did I miss this one when it was first shown? If not, could there b
|>
|>>This was the first episode that Bruce McGill (Jack Dalton) has appeared
|>>in for several years, but the consensus on the MacGyver mailing list was
|>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>
|>So what is with this MacGyver mailing list?  Who is on it and what is
|>it all about?  How can I get on it?
|>

The MacGyver mailing list is just made up of people from the net who are 
interested in discussing the show.  There are similar lists for other
TV shows.

To join, mail to shari@cc.gatech.edu
To post messages, mail to macgyver@cc.gatech.edu

|>With all of the crap on TV these days MacGyver is surely missed!
|>I have seen every episode including the lost one.  Some episodes
|>4 or 5 times.
|>
|>Favorite is "Passages"  where he meets his parents on the "ship"
|>along with Harry.
|>

This is one of my favorites as well.  I also like "The Madonna", which is
a great Christmas episode that works even for people who've never seen
the show before.

|>P.S. I mean missed in the sense of first run, primetime. I am aware
|>of the USA repeats.
|>

Unfortunately the USA repeats have been cut, sometimes badly.  If anybody
out there has uncut MacGyver episodes on tape (from the original network
broadcast), especially from the earlier seasons, I'd be interested in
hearing from you.  I have a few myself, and would like to trade.

	Nancy



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From: amy@lloyd.Camex.COM (Amy Lindsay)
Subject: Re: *Four* show actors
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:28:47 EST

In article <C03B0r.8Jo@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu (John Snyder) writes:
>>Robert Conrad:
>>
>>Hawiian Eye
>>The Wild Wild West
>>The D.A.
>>High Mountain Rangers

>Don't forget:
>
>Black Sheep Squadron

Wasn't he also in that show where they ran around the desert in the
two jeeps?  Eric Braeden (who used to be Hans Gudegast (I think)) was
their "evil foil."

Ah yes, now I remember the name:  The Rat Patrol!


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