HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Subject: Re: Acorn v Research Machines 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Serial Port
Reply-To: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:50:28 +0000

In article <727672509snx@klaatu.demon.co.uk> steve@klaatu.demon.co.uk writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.173350.3032@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon
> Burrows) writes:
>>Annual Sales Revenue:
>>
>>RM............50 million UK pounds
>>Acorn.........35 million UK pounds  
>>
>
>All this tells us is that RM's stuff is over-priced. :-)
>
Preeeeeeeeeecisely....

Hugo

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From: Oliver.Cornes@newcastle.ac.uk (Oliver Cornes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: BJ200 and TurboDriver
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:20:01 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Simon Burrows (smb@cs.nott.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <gilbertd.727691872@cs.man.ac.uk> gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) writes:
: >There was once talk of CC being on the net,
: >can anyone tell me the address, since I want
: >to mail a bug report and a moan or two!
: 
: CC has a uucp mail link hanging off Acorn Computers Ltd, along with a number
: of other companies such as Aleph One, Iota etc.


  CC's mail now goes through UKNet and doesn't 'hang off' Acorn any more,
  this has advantges like mail taking less than three days to get
  anywhere....


: 
: Simon

Ollie.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
From: braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (David Brain)
Subject: kill apps from cli?
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:54:18 GMT



Would it be possible to write somthing that could kill apps running on the 
desktop from the cli...on a similar idea would it be possible to get a list
of running apps from the cli...like the unix ps command.

Do such things exist?  would it be possible to write them ?

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From: sproven@cs.strath.ac.uk (Simon B Proven IE91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Protection (was Re: Acorn news release
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:46:13 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1993Jan24.131752.13657@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows) writes:
>(I hope that CC get a move on with producing a new version of Impression
>with bugfixes and some new functionality)

In the latest Archimedean CC say they're working on Impression 2.5 with
Impression 3 to follow...


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  Health warning: being in a car can damage your health (BMA)
From: cs92dty@brunel.ac.uk (Danny T Yates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Skyfall PD
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:37:45 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Hi,

I've never had any dealings with them either, but a friend of mine has as
well (does this sound familiar?)

However, I tend to use ArchAngel PD. They produce a computerised catalogue,
the likes of which I have never seen before.

Dan.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn,comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: burke@vxdesy.desy.de (Stephen Burke)
Subject: Re: Monty Pythons most used sentence
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:22:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.121930.14166@ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>, wuerthne@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Martin Wuerthner) writes:
> OS_Module allocation should not be used for large blocks of memory.
> Additionally, it can only be used by modules, so it can't be used by

I don't think anything stops applications (or any other program) calling
OS_Module, but it's certainly better to use the application workspace.

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From: ssudavss@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Captain_Kwok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Big partitions on the PC emulator
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:26:52 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Yesterday I tried to set up a biggish partition on the PC Emulator 1.8.
I told it to create a 90Mb C drive. This it did. I then created the partition
from DRDOS 5 using FDISK and could happily read and write files to the DOS 
drive from the PC emulator.

When I tried to double click on the partition from RISC OS (A5000, 3.1 etc etc)
after having quit the emulator software, I got an address exception and the 
whole machine refused to do anything but it did not lock up (I have a feeling 
that it killed the filer).

Not being put off, I decided to try a 50Mb partition. Same problem!

Eventually I got fed up and used a 25Mb partition which I knew worked.

Is this a bug (or am I going MaD! *8-) ).

Steve
ssudavss@uk.ac.reading
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
From: johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au (John Warburton)
Subject: Re: more inodes?
Organization: B&D Doors, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:58:49 GMT

From article <1993Jan25.074007.2998@actrix.gen.nz>, by dvincent@actrix.gen.nz (David Vincent):
> hi
> 
> i just tried creating more inodes on a 600meg filesystem
> using the -i option of newfs.ffs on a RC3230 running
> risc/os 4.52 but it would only create the default (an inode for each
> 2048 bytes).
> 
> is there a way to create more inodes? thanx.

Yup,
	The inode density is also calculated in reference to the number of
tracks/cylinder (I think that's right). Anyway, I had a look at what mkfs.ffs
churned out for '-t'. This was 27, so to get 3 times the inodes, I changed the
number to 9. ie:
	/etc/newfs.ffs -v -i 128 -t 9 -s size disk
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.sgi
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: MIPS assembler programming book?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:24:37 GMT

Does anyone know of a book on MIPS assembly language and/or architecture?
Please respond by e-mail.
Thanks in advance.

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mips:1184 comp.sys.sgi:19053
From: cook@bebop.esd.sgi.com (Doug Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: MIPS assembler programming book?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:16:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <C18Bt2.4nz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> Does anyone know of a book on MIPS assembly language and/or architecture?
> Please respond by e-mail.
> Thanks in advance.

(I'm responding with a posting, in case other people have the same
question; I'll also send private e-mail.)

A good book on the subject is _MIPS_RISC_Architecture_, by Kane and
Heinrich. This is the second edition (original book was by Kane), and
covers the R4000, R2/3000, and R6000 architectures. The book is
published by Prentice-Hall. 

	-Doug
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
From: rex@cs.su.oz.au (Rex Monty di Bona)
Subject: Re: Adding an unformatted Seagate ST11200N to RC3230
Reply-To: rex@cs.su.oz.au (Rex Monty di Bona)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:02:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.070111.1135@cs.su.oz.au> rex@cs.su.oz.au writes:
> 	BTW, I have a version of sprobe that works in multiuser (really
> useful for sys-admin type tasks) I'll put it up for ftp, ot post it if
> the demand is there)..

Ok, I was aksed, here it is. Basically in the common_scsi.c device
driver for SCSI devices the 'sprobe' information line is available
inside the kernel. This is available by using the GIOCPRSTR ioctl on
each device. The problem is that the devices are called different things
on the various machines. The 3230s and later machines seem to use the
sdcXdYvh coding, but the M120s and earlier ones use isCXdYvh coding,
and what the Jaguar interface ones use I don't know... 

P.s. This has to run as root, or as somebody who can open the raw devices. :-)
---- cut here ----
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/param.h>
#include <sys/buf.h>
#include <sys/dvh.h>
#include <sys/scsi.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <sys/dkio.h>
#include <sys/gen_ioctl.h>

main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	int	i, j;
	char	buf[20];

	printf("          Vendor  -Product ID      -Rev -Prom Rev-Serial Num. -Decive Type\n");
	for(j = 0; j < 4; j++) {
		for(i = 0; i < 7; i++) {
			sprintf(buf, "/dev/rscsi/sdc%dd%ds8", j, i);
			do_check(i, buf);
			sprintf(buf, "/dev/rscsi/isc%dd%ds8", j, i);
			do_check(i, buf);
		}
	}
	exit(0);
}

do_check(int id, char *dev)
{
	int	fd;
	char	buf[IDENT_LEN+4];	/* Make sure it's long enough */

	if ((fd = open(dev, 0)) == -1) {
		/*
		 * can't open - might not be there.
		 */
		return;
	}
	if (ioctl(fd, GIOCPRSTR, buf) == -1) {
		return;
	}
	printf("SCSI %dL0: %s\n", id, buf);
}
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From: sergey@cs.umd.edu (Sergey Brin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
Subject: MIPS 3000 emulator
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:33:56 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Does anyone know of a MIPS 3000 or a microvax III emulator?
Please reply by email to : sergey@cs.umd.edu

Thanks in advance,
--sergey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
From: mckay@gimli.bio.purdue.edu (Dwight McKay)
Subject: amd for Risc/OS on an ESV?
Reply-To: mckay@gimli.bio.purdue.edu (Dwight McKay)
Organization: Department of Biological Science, Purdue University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:34:48 GMT

Has anyone ported any version of the 4.4 BSD automount daemon, amd, to Risc/OS
on an ESV?

I run amd on my other systems and would like to run it on my ESVs.  I'm
currently
writting a short awk script to convert my amd maps to into something suitable
for use with the stock "automount" daemon, but would really prefer to use amd.

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From: dvincent@actrix.gen.nz (David Vincent)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
Subject: more inodes?
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:40:07 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

hi

i just tried creating more inodes on a 600meg filesystem
using the -i option of newfs.ffs on a RC3230 running
risc/os 4.52 but it would only create the default (an inode for each
2048 bytes).

is there a way to create more inodes? thanx.
From: hennie@nuustak.csir.co.za (Hennie Rautenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
Subject: Bufcall error
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:17:10 GMT
Organization: CSIR, South AFrica
NNTP-Posting-Host: nuustak.csir.co.za
X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed below are purely personal
X-Disclaimer: and in no way represent the official view of CSIR.

Hi

The following error started scrolling accross the Cosole screen this afternoon:

Bufcall: Could not allocate stream event.

In addition to that, when trying to telnet to a remote machine I first get
a "connected to [remote host] and then continiously:

sleep(5) from telnet, after select

Has anyone come accross this yet ? If so, how did you rectify it ?

Cheers

Hennie Rautenbach		hennie@nuustak.csir.co.za
From: zhu@cs.ubc.ca (Zheng Zhu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
Subject: Installing AKCL on mips
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:10:59 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: simcoe.cs.ubc.ca

We are trying to install akcl on a mips machine (RS3230 with RISC/os 4.51).
Since the original distribution of akcl does not have the .defs file for
mips, we tried to create by ourselves. So far, we failed. I am wondering 
if anyone in the mips world successfully installed akcl before and would 
like to share your experience with us?

Thanks in advance

Zheng Zhu
Dept of CS
University of BC
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips
From: gwb@n3gb.umd.edu (George Baltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: HISTORY OF WORD PROCESSING
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:19:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.075244.27275@spectrum.CMC.COM> lars@spectrum.CMC.COM  
(Lars Poulsen) writes:
> My first experience with machine-readable documentation was the Univac
> Exec-8 Operating System Programmer's Reference Manual (fondly known as
> the PRM; I used to know the UP-xxxx number by heart). I got in touch
> with this in late 1970, but it was not new then. (It was very poorly
> done, in UPPER-CASE ONLY, SINCE THE NATIVE CHARACTERSET WAS 6-BIT
> FIELDATA AND THE OFFICIAL COPY WAS OFFSET PRINTED OFF COPY PRINTED ON A
> MISADJUSTED DRUM PRINTER.)

UP-4144, a number forever burned into my neurons.  I even have an  
original, upper-case only, hand-bound(glopped) copy of the '1108 OPERATING  
SYSTEM EXEC PRM (VERSION 22.5)'!  Unfortunately, there are no dates or OS  
level references in it, so I can't date it precisely.  If, however, the  
22.5 refers to the OS level, then it would be 1968 or 69 - the earliest  
System Memorandum is for Exec 26, from Sept 1970.

> At that time, IBM had been producing manuals in SCRIBE for several
> years, and the IBM 2741 Selectric Terminal was the industry standard
> for what I believe IBM at that time called Text Processing.
> I was working at the Copenhagen University Academic Computer Center
> (RECKU, now part of UNI-C) and at the request of the biology department,
> we installed terminal device drivers for the IBM 2741 and clones. In
> 1972, we upgraded the operating system, and the old driver did not work
> anymore, so we wrote a new one. About 5000 lines of assembly language,
> and worked very shortly after we got the new system to test on. At the
> same time, the "Document Processor" formatting software, and the editor
> became available in ASCII versions so we could write lower-case
> documents.

The SM announces the ASCII printer support for level 26.  I think our  
local ED did ASCII then, but most text was in FIELDDATA for many years.


> Fun stuff. Sometimes I miss it...
Me, too.....

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
From: wwkiii@well.sf.ca.us (Walt Kemmerer)
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR CONFIGURING A UNISYS TAPE DRIVE
Keywords: TAPE DRIVE UNISYS AFDISK
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:38:58 GMT


Joel, need a little more info that in your previous post to help you out:

1. what machine (A-Series, Unix, PC)

2. what kind of tape drive (Unisys-provided or third party [ID bytes vary])

Please post back into the newsgroup and I'll see what I can do to help you
out.

Cheers!

Walt Kemmerer               I/O Specialists, Inc.   kemmerer@ioscc.neosoft.com
3906 Green Fields          <--------------------->  wwkiii@well.sf.ca.us
Sugar Land, TX  77479-1942    Networking & Comms    72737.563@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
From: jstevey@AFIT.AF.MIL
Subject: ADVICE FOR CONFIGURING A UNISYS TAPE DRIVE
Summary: NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT OTHER SOFTWARE BESIDES ASPI AND AFDISK
Keywords: TAPE DRIVE UNISYS AFDISK
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:31:33 GMT

WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE A SCSI INTERFACE ABLE TO SEE THE DRIVE?

        JOEL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys,alt.cobol,fj.sources.d,fl.sources,sdnet.sources.d,vmsnet.sources.d,no.sources.wanted,mn.sources,mi.sources,relcom.sources
From: raj@jsdc.com (rajesh tummala)
Subject: Grammar in YACC format for ANSI COBOL
Organization: Jacksonville Software Development Corp., Jacksonville, FL.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:13:44 GMT

Gentlepersons,

  We are interested in Grammars for COBOL. Specifically the Grammars in YACC
  Format (or Some EBNF).  We are interested in ANSI COBOL and in UNISYS 
  COBOL. If you have a file with the Grammar, Please send it to the following
  address. We would appreciate any information you may give us to how to
  obtain these Grammars.

Please send the reply to the e-mail address.


Thanks..

uunet!jsdca!raj.
From: jdm1@vogon1.pasen.gov (Jonathan D McCown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
Subject: Re: ADVICE FOR CONFIGURING A UNISYS TAPE DRIVE
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:03:55 GMT
Organization: Vogon Poets Society
Keywords: TAPE DRIVE UNISYS AFDISK

jstevey@AFIT.AF.MIL writes:

>WHAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE A SCSI INTERFACE ABLE TO SEE THE DRIVE?
>        JOEL

Please be specific... are we talking a B28 with a QIC module
or a 2145-03 with a U6000/75 (I can help with either).

Unisys has made a great variety of things... you will get better answers if
you specify which ones are bothering you.


- Jon (a net.curmudgeon apprentice) 
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From: nf@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Nick Floros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: i960 benchmark
Summary: i960 benchmark
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:03:53 GMT


  Hi all,

    I have an application that requires an embedded processor, and I am
  thinking of using an i960. However before I start spending money I want
  to know if it is fast enough . 

    Therefore does anyone out there have a development system on which 
  he could run a benchmark I have written ?

  The code is written in C and does not require lots of memory. 

  Thank you


  Nick Floros
  Concurrent Computation Group,
  Department of Electronics & Computer Science
  University of Southampton,
  Southampton, SO9 5NH
  U.K.

  e-mail : nf@uk.ac.soton.ecs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.arch
From: dfox@quack.sac.ca.us (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Clock counts for 8086/88?
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Jan 1993 06:48:24 UTC

In article <PHR.93Jan27005427@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>I notice that the Intel datasheet for the 8086/88 (Microprocessors
>vol. 2) doesn't give the clock counts for the different instructions,
>unlike the sheets for the 286/386/486.  Is there another reference for
>this info?  In particular I want to know how many clocks it takes to
>do a 16-bit integer multiply, and also a 32->16,16 divide.  Also, does
>anyone know if the NEC V20 does these operations faster than an 8088?
>(Yes, some people still write programs for these processors).  Thanks.

You could call Intel and see if they still provide data sheets and/or
programmer's manuals for the 8088/8086.  They may not, since the chip
is so old :) but you may never know.  If they still provide these
documents, they're free, and can be ordered by writing:

Intel Literature Sales
P.O. Box 7641
Mt. Prospect, IL 60056-7641

Phone number is 800-548-4725.

Another reference I have handy gives the information you want.  This is from
_Assembly Language Programming for the IBM PC, by Karen A. Lemone, published
in 1985 by Little Brown and Co., ISBN 0-316-52069-1.

As you probably know, there are two types of multiply on the 8088/8086, IMUL,
and MUL, and two kinds of division, DIV and IDIV, for signed and unsigned
multiply/divide respectively.

For IMUL:

reg16 operand:    128-154
mem16 operand:     98-104 + EA clocks (additional clocks require to do
                                       effective address calculations)

For MUL:

reg16 operand:   118-133
mem16 operand:   124-139 + EA clocks

For IDIV:

reg16 operand:   165-184
mem16 operand:   171-190 + EA clocks

For DIV:

reg16 operand:   144-162
mem16 operand:   150-168 + EA clocks

The V20 did speed up MUL/DIV, string, and various other operations
(AAM/AAD) on the 8088.  I don't know how much they speeded it up
though, as I don't have that information.  It also added some
real-mode 80186/80286 instructions like push immed, rotate/shift
immediate, etc.

>#include disclaimer.h.
On an 8088?  Naa, that would take too many clocks. :)

BTW, while I'm here, can someone point me to timing and architecture
differences between the Cyrix FasMath chip in comparison with the Intel
387?  I called Intel and got their (nice and complete) data sheet for
the 387, but I have a Cyrix, and when I called Cyrix, they said they don't
publish that information anymore. :(
x


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From: ssuchalr@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk (S. J. Chalker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: 486 programming
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:38:52 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Help,
I am an assembly language programmer used to programming an 8086. I recently
purchased a 486 computer and now wish to take full advantage of its powers.
I am looking for a book on the subject of programming the 486. Or will a book
on the 386 do, and if not, what is the difference from the assembly language
programers view?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
From: dhess@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Drew William Hess)
Subject: Re: Pentium
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: north america
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:17:21 GMT

Well, this is just a guess, but I would think that Intel will try to push
PCI on the market along with the Pentium.  I believe that Compaq, Dell,
AST, and other heavy hitters who are usually first-to-market with a new
chip have all jumped on the PCI bandwagon.  The Pentium will be a perfect
opportunity to get rid of the ISA anchor.  

Obviously, if this happens, these systems will include an ISA bus as a PCI
"peripheral."  Maybe 3 ISA slots and 3 PCI slots, or something like that.
This is also assuming that the PCI-SIG has come up with a connector 
specification by then.

I'm sure you'll also see systems with ISA busses only to speed up time-
to-market and to cut costs.  And, given the way the PC market works, we'll
all probably end up stuck with ISA *again* because these motherboards will
be so damn cheap in about 2-3 years.... (not including the liquid-nitrogen
tank required to keep the Pentium cool.)

-dwh-
dhess@cs.stanford.edu
From: cyberman@exucom.com (Stephen R. Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel
Subject: Suitability for 386 for embeded applications?
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:57:54 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


I need a very fast CPU for an embeded application.
It require a speed of 16 > 33mhz
non segmented addressing 
linear adressing of > 4M long word (32bit ie 64meg)
how suitable wold one say a 386 would be in protected mode?

Cyberman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel