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From: hho@aludra.usc.edu ("** N.T.K.C.D. ***")
Subject: EarthQuake Kit
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:11:28 GMT


:-)
Does anyone aware of any guideline, restriction, law regarding selling
EarthQuake Kit? :-) In Southern Californi expecially :-)
& I am looking for the source to buy from too..
THanks
H.
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: oleksik@rainbow.uchicago.edu (John Oleksik)
Subject: Re: selling price of existing business
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:24:40 GMT

I prefer using the excess earnings method, one which is approved by the IRS
as a valuation method for estate purposes etc. The value is computed by 
adding the net worth of the business plus the excess earnings times a 
stability multiplier.  The excess earnings is computed by first caculating
the net current assets and net long term assets.  You then calculate the 
return required for passive investing in short term assets (use money market
rates) and long term assets (use 30 year gnmas), subtract this from the 
net operating income, and you get the excess earnings. Depending on the
stability of the business you multiply this number by 2-5 and add the results
to the net worth.  Suppose your widget company needed $1 million in net 
fixed assets and $200,000 in net working capital. Use 3% for curent asset
passive return and 8% for long term asset passive return. Your required
return would be .03*200000+.08*1000000=$86,000. You subtract this from the
$120,000 and get an excess earnings of $34,000.  Multiply this by 4, assuming
average stability of earnings so you get as final value $1.2 million +$102k
=$1,302,000.  I didn't mean to make such a long post; my point is that there
is more to this than some simple P/E sort of arguements.

John Oleksik
From: ignazio@madriver.ma30.bull.com (Nancy Ignazio)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: MLM STORY...
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:43:27 GMT
Reply-To: ignazio@madriver.ma30.bull.com (Nancy Ignazio)
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems

@@@@n <1992Oct5.080031@madriver.ma30.bull.com> ignazio@madriver.ma30.bull.com
(Nancy Ignazio) writes:
>	brushes, but also the best quality home care products.
>	Fuller Brush developes and manufactures over 100 top quality, environmentally
>	safe products for Laundry, Bathroom, Kitchen, etc.
>	Fuller also offers water filtrations sytems.
> 
>>Gotcha..  
	Got What?

>>They have more than just brushes..  What are the prices like?
	Competitive.  Their laundry detergent beats Tide and All per load.  If
	you'd like to see a price list I can send you one.

>>Also, what kind of water filtration units do they sell?  I am in a company
>>called Equinox that claims to be offering THE BEST units around (I'd like to
>>know if they are better that Fuller's).
	
	I don't know anything about Equinox so I can't compare the two,
	but if you'd like me to send you a Fact sheet just email me
	you're address.

>	Since most of Fuller's products are consumables, there is always
>	a need to service customers on a monthly basis.
> 
>>What do people need to get their hair cleaned out of their brush monthly?
	What????? 

>>=-)..  What kind of servicing do you do?
	Servicing by means of calling our customers each month to let
	them know what's on sale.  Also, answering any questions about the
	products they might have.   Don't you service your customers or do
	you just sell to them something and then dump them?

-Nancy 
N.Ignazio@ma30.bull.com
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Software Packaging Costs -- need some i
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:56:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Sep29.185652.1601
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article 24275@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu, swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver) writes:
>
>The RETAIL market is hooked on color and flash (4-color packaging ...
>glossy stuff ... heck, most of the sellers don't know what's in the box
>but if it's pretty, they'll sell it!).  Education software marketing is
>more concerned with "can the package handle being in a library where it
>gets manhandled daily and still protect the disks?".

Sad... but very true.  If you want to reach distributors and dealers, then
packaging becomes very important.  If you are selling primarily mail order
to the end user, then packaging is much less significant.

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From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Phoenix Mining Tractman Investments
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:59:44 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu

Hello

Has anyone heard of either Phoenix Mining and/or Tractman Investments?


Regards
Neil Schier
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From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Russel L. Hedderly Jr.)
Subject: Not a job, but an income producing opportunity(Read me)
Keywords: Entrepreneurs 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:21:06 GMT


The American Dream - owning your own business. 

The facts - Only %5 do. 	%95 work for someone else.

Why? - %85 of new businesses fail within first 2 years.

Problem - Heavy initial dollar investment. 

Solution - Contact me.

Best wishes

Russel L. Hedderly 


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From: robin@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Robin O'Brien)
Subject: Leasing PCs
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:28:02 GMT

I am currently considering setting up a small business that would involve
leasing computer and video equipment along with software to run a particular
application.  The computers would probably be cheap PC compatibles; high
performance machines would definately be overkill.

Does anyone have any experience with doing this kind of leasing?  Would it
be possible to lease computer equipment yourself and then turn around and
sub-lease it?  What about maintenance?


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From: rb1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bickerstaff)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Commercial networks
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:44:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4emO4n200WB7E1uXI0
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is it possible to communicate with people on the Compuserve, GEnie or other
commercial networks from the internet?  If so, how?

Thanks in advance.
From: rosso@roscoe.csd.sgi.com (Ross Oliver)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Anyone know about reading books for money.
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:20:53 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <gateswk.717360747@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, gateswk@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (William K.) writes:
|>   I read earlier this week someone who wanted people to read his book and
|> in return they'd get a copy if it ever got published.  It brought to mind
|> when I used to read about ways to make money at home of reading books for
|> publishers and critiquing them for pay.  I was wondering if maybe anyone
|> on the net was involved in this and could maybe help me get into it.  I'm
|> at college and I can always use the extra money you know.  I'm pretty good
|> at writing in the real context and think I'd be good at it. So, if anyone
|> has any info I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
|>      -William K. Gates


It is fairly standard for publishers of technical books to have new books
reviewed by someone knowledgable in the field or topic.  I have reviewed
several UNIX books for this purpose.  The publisher is interested in someone
going through the book and double-checking the author's information for
technical accuracy.  I have also reviewed book proposals as well as manuscripts.
Nothing feeds the ego better than someone paying you to spout your opinion.
I have received from $50 to $400 for each assignment.  The amount is usually
a token compared to the amount of work involved.  I do it mainly for publishing
contacts, and one review did lead to my co-authorship of another book.

As usual, breaking into this area is difficult.  First, you need to be an
expert or at least semi-expert in a field about which books are being published.
Then you need to hook up with a publisher.  I got started when a publisher
asked the marketing director of the company I was working for to recommend
someone to review a book.  I was recommended.  After I finished work on the
first book, the publisher liked my work, and sent me more projects.

I don't think anyone could make a living doing this.  As I said, I did it
for the contacts.  It might be a good lead-in to a writing career, although
going directly into writing would be easier, as there are many more
opportunities for freelance writers than freelance editors.

Ross Oliver
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From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: Re: TAIWAN CONTACTS
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:04:41 GMT

In article <205.293.uupcb@u2u.lonestar.org> gary.maddox@u2u.lonestar.org (Gary Maddox)  writes:
>Can anyone suggest how I can contact computer interface card
>manufacturer's in Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc... ?
>I am currently marketing some OEM software. I have what they need, how
>do I contact them?
>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>Gary
>
   When I was in Hong Kong, they were selling the magazine "Asian
Electronics Sources" on the newstands.  I'm not sure who the publisher
is, but it may be listed in a periodicals directory such as Ulrich's.
Ask the reference librarian at your local public library.

Good luck, Dan
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Commercial networks
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:51:18 EDT
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <4emO4n200WB7E1uXI0@andrew.cmu.edu>, rb1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Bickerstaff) writes:
> Is it possible to communicate with people on the Compuserve, GEnie or other
> commercial networks from the internet?  If so, how?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

In the case of Compu$erve, the magic incantation is:

account.number@compuserve.com

where account.number is the Compuserve [account,number], 
transmogrified.

The others ARE reachable, but I don't know how off the top of my head.

Dick Munroe
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From: ohumukin@spectra.com (Kawika Ohumukini)
Subject: Re: wholesale/retail taxes
Keywords: tax
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:23:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.180846.13593@PA.dec.com> walters@pa.dec.com (Lisa Doerfler) writes:
>	Can anyone tell me how to charge tax on an item
>	that is made up of different parts, some of which
>	were purchased wholesale and some retail?
>
>	Do you charge tax on the whole thing, even though
>	you've already paid tax on the retail portion?

	I believe that if you sell the item as one unit you charge 
	tax on the whole thing because your sales will reflect the
	entire cost of the item.  Check with the state.

	Kawika 
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: anthonjw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason W. Anthony)
Subject: Software Packaging Costs -- need some insight
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:03:03 GMT

I'm trying to get an idea for how much it would cost to start up a small
software company.  My biggest question mark is the cost of "packaging"
the product.

Can anyone give my an idea of how much money is involved?  I realize it
depends on quantity, type of packaging, etc., but right now I'm trying to
determine the "economy of scale", i.e. what range of price am I looking at?

I essentially see these costs involved: duplication, documentation printing,
and physical packaging.

If anyone could give my an idea as a factor of quantity, quality, etc.,
or how much it cost you, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you very much!

				Jason Anthony
				anthonjw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Subject: Scholarship 'locating' service?  Info sought.				 
Reply-To: r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow)
Organization: David Mitchell & Associates - Austin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:44:48 GMT

    I remember seeing (quite some time ago) about business opportunities 
involving the matching of students with grants/scholarships.		

    Has anyone ever heard of this or done it?  Any thoughts?  Feelings?  
Facts?	


-Michael R. Dow   

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From: gavin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Keith Gavin Mathias)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: New Company
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:14:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu


 Don't discover us on the cover of Forbes Magazine - Discover us now! 
 Two Cal students have developed a way to make money during this recession. 
 For investment opportunities contact us at gavin@ocf.berkeley.edu or leave
 a message on our voice  mail at 510 464-5849. 
 We're serious about making money.
From: dao4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DONALD A. O'SHALL)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Next Questions -- How does one "sell" an idea
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:13:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct1.185906.29231@PA.dec.com>, walters@pa.dec.com (Lisa Doerfler
) writes:
>Let's say I have this great idea for a business, the market
>is ripe for it, the concept is unique, and if I had a the
>money to go for it, I would in a second.  But I don't have
>the money and this thing should be done now while the idea
>is still original and the market is there...Can I copy
>right my idea for use at a later time when I might be able
>to afford to implement it?  Can I sell the idea to someone?
>How do I find the right person to sell my idea to?

You cannot copyright an idea. Therefore the idea of selling an idea is also
not especially feasible. Ideas are like children. Everyone who has one thinks
that theirs is special and unique, but you can't sell them or keep them as
they are.   The best thing to do is to try to attract the seed money to you,
which is what 99% of all the entrepreneurs out there are trying to do also. I
personally have at least a dozen ideas whose time has come, and in the past
have seen more than two dozen of "my" ideas come to fruition in someone else's
bank account. When an idea's time has truly come, the same signs that led you
to think about the idea are being shown to thousands of others, hundreds of
which will have "the idea", and somewhere, someone will be the only one to
implement it. If it is not you and it is not me, then it will be someone else.
The idea will survive.

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Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher)
Subject: Re: Jet Fuel Suppliers
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:53:13 GMT

> 
> Does anyone have any info/contact on this?
>
Look for the nearest place that sells kerosine.  That's      
what jet fuel is.
From: walters@pa.dec.com (Lisa Doerfler)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Next Questions -- How does one "sell" an idea
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:59:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: PA.1992Oct1.185906.29231
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Let's say I have this great idea for a business, the market
is ripe for it, the concept is unique, and if I had a the
money to go for it, I would in a second.  But I don't have
the money and this thing should be done now while the idea
is still original and the market is there...Can I copy
right my idea for use at a later time when I might be able
to afford to implement it?  Can I sell the idea to someone?
How do I find the right person to sell my idea to?

Thanks again,

Lisa
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Software Packaging Costs -- need some insig
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:32:06 GMT

In article 717624183@craft.camp.clarkson.edu, anthonjw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason W. Anthony) writes:
>I'm trying to get an idea for how much it would cost to start up a small
>software company.  My biggest question mark is the cost of "packaging"
>the product.

Jason, call Midwestern Diskette at 800-221-6332 and they will be happy to give
you some ideas and costs involved.  It really is up to you.  How fancy you
want to be, how much work you are willing to do yourself, and what quantities
involved.  Here's a good rule of thumb though... try to keep your packaging
costs down to 10% of the suggested RETAIL price of the product.  That's not
always easy, but it's a good starting point.


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_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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From: davew@dsr.uucp (Dave Whipple)
Subject: PC business in DC area?
Organization: DSR
Distribution: misc
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 16:54:50 GMT

Hi,

   I am looking for some technical and/or business type people
   who would be interested in investing some time and money
   into starting a PC business in the northern VA/DC area.

   To be more specific I am interested in starting a business
   selling PC's, Turnkey network systems, and possibly turnkey
   Unix based PC's.  Ideally I would like to find somebody with
   a CNE, but this is not required.  I am willing to put in time and
   money of my own.  If someone else would also have some interest
   in such a venture drop me a note or give me a call.

David Whipple
davew@dsr.uucp
Home - 703-752-1074
Work - 703-263-1505
From: tyadav@athena.mit.edu (Tapesh Yadav)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Entrepreneurs and equilibrium...( Was: new products??)
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:40:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Sep30.214009.15707
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

============================================
 drw@jordan.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) writes:
>I've given the matter some thought.  The central problem is that
>market economies tend to be in equilibrium.  In this case, if a
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>particular line of work pays very well, people will go into it and
>drag the wage scale down.  So the question reduces to:  What lines of
>work have a high "barrier to entry"?  I've been able to figure out the
>following possibilities:
>
>- requires lots of hard work
>- requires that you be born with some unusual skill (e.g., modeling,
>and to some extent, computer programming)
>- requires that you do something other people don't want to do (e.g.,
>cleaning underground sewer pipes)
>- requires that you have obtained some particular expertise that is
>difficult, expensive, or unusual to obtain
>- involves much risk
>
>The only other way is to exploit non-equilibrium conditions in the
>market, that is, to recognize some short-lived opportunity.  But
>recognizing those opportunities is in itself a way of making a living,
>to which the previous discussion applies...

 The fundamental premise here is underlined above. That is:

  "Markets tend to be in equilibrium."

 Needless to say, entrepreneurship is not just identifying and adjusting into
 the equilibrium, or non-equilibrium for that matter. Entrepreneurship
 also includes identifying new values, new joys, new equilibriums.
 To expand the circle of economy, as Joseph Schumpeter would have put
 it few decades ago.

 Walkman, Yellow stick pads, Cat scans... etc. are classic examples of
 redefining equilibrium. Well, so was automobile .......

 Know human problems and know human happiness. Know the customer.
 Everything is in there. Endless opportunities. For today and tomorrow.

 If all the original poster wanted was a "job" that pays him/her
 tons of money, well this post is meaningless :)

T.Y.
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From: swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver)
Subject: Re: Software Packaging Costs -- need some insig
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 02:59:57 GMT


I hate to come off as vague (sorry, Jason ;) {.. but there are a couple
other factors to consider when you're looking at software packaging costs,
one big one being what kind of market you're going into.

The RETAIL market is hooked on color and flash (4-color packaging ...
glossy stuff ... heck, most of the sellers don't know what's in the box
but if it's pretty, they'll sell it!).  Education software marketing is
more concerned with "can the package handle being in a library where it
gets manhandled daily and still protect the disks?".

Look at borland packaging ... 4-color thin cardboard around corrugated box.

-Scotty
From: jbruner@cs.utk.edu (The Big Kahuna)
Newsgroups: misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Advice needed on handling PO's
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:49:13 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
Originator: jbruner@duncan.cs.utk.edu

I need information (basic to advanced) for dealing with purchase orders.
I want to bid on government contracts (both state and federal) and need 
to understand fully what a purchase order entails i.e. my rights and 
responsibilities.

Any information will be appreciated.  Please e-mail me at
jbruner@cs.utk.edu 

I will post a summary to the net given sufficient response.

Thanks,

	James Bruner

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From: jain@nova.enet.dec.com (Punkaj Jain)
Subject: Re: WANTED:  ENTREPRENUERS
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  5 OCT 92 12:28:02 EST


In article <1992Oct5.154338.1397@pellns.alleg.edu>, romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger) writes...
> 
>Anyone interested in earning extra money in there spare time?
> 
>I am.  If your interested in learning how you can develop a sizable income  
>in your spare time please let me know.
> 
>email romingk@alleg.edu
> 
>I'll be happy to get back to you with more info.
> 
>Karl Rominger
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