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From: chen@cs.tamu.edu (Jianer Chen )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: call for Ph.D theses
Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:33:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <712340398.13381@minster.york.ac.uk> yong@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>Beijing Library Calls for Donations of Ph.D theses from oversea Chinese
>		5th May 1992
>
>So far, the library got 50 copies of Ph.D theses donations.
>It prefers the final "offical" copies (in either hard copies or micro
>films) but does not exclude "non-official" copies.
>It intends to collect all abstracts into a series of
>"The Abstracts of Chinese Ph.D Theses (oversea section)".
>Potential donators are invited to contact the sections of culture or
>education of oversea Chinese Embassies and to ask for a donation form.
>However, a direct correspondence with the library is highly encouraged.
>
>Correspondence: YAO Yong (?)
>
>Address:
>Collection Centre of Academic Degree Documents
>Beijing Library
>39 Bai Si Qiao Road
>Beijing, P. R. China
> 

Sending an official copy (i.e., a copy made by UMI) should have 
no problem.  However, I guess most people do not have an 
extra copy from UMI.  Buying a new copy from UMI after your 
first order form should be expensive.  What did you guys do? 

What will Beijing Library do with those unofficial copies? 
Will they make it a book by themselves?  This may cause 
a copyright problem, I guess. 

--- JC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yfeng@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Youlin Feng)
Subject: Lin Li won Gold Medal
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:28:10 GMT

Lin Li grabbed the gold medal in 200m individual medlay with a new world
record, beating Summer Sanders of the USA.
                                               ----CNN Sports
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: No Dogs or Chineses (Forwarding for a friend)
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:45:57 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin Advanced Workstation Division
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Jul18.023926.41678@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, wavelet@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> In article <=gP-Vj_@engin.umich.edu>, chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
> > In article <1992Jul17.041505.41649@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wavelet@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> >>
> >>          I am a ROC citizen.
> >>
> > 
> > When did you give up TI? :-) ROC is Republic of CHINA, isn't?
> > Congratulations!
> > 
> 
>         My passport does not have anything to do with my thought.
>     Only idiots think that their thought can be represented by their
>     passports.

Then don't be a hypocrite. Return it, burn it. Be a refuge....

Don't be a COWARD.
-- 
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From: eric@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Bo Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Olive Tree
Date: 23 Jul 1992 22:45:33 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdphu1.ucsd.edu
Keywords: Olive Tree, San Mao

xh@uirvlg.csl.uiuc.edu (Xiao Ping Hu) writes:
>
>		Olive Tree
>			Original by Three Hairs
>			Translated by Xiaoping Hu
>
>	"Don't ask where I am from --
> ...

I believe that San1 Mao2 does have an English name, "Echo". Don't
you think it sounds much better than "Three Hairs"?

-- Bo
From: li@sce.carleton.ca (Yao Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Soccer and Tennis Tournaments to Start in Ottawa
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:28:43 GMT

>From Lin Bin LINB@BNR.CA

1.          Soccer Tournament to Start in Ottawa

The soccer club of Ottawa LYH is organizing a series of soccer
games among the Chinese Mainlanders in Ottawa. We will have two
teams - the STUDENT team which consists of people from the two
local universities and the JIANG- HU/ team which consists of the
people who don't affiliate with the universities. Three out of
five games will be played to determine the champion.

A tryout game was held on Saturday, July 11. If you want to
be considered to play in the tournament, please come out and join
us! The official game will start on July 25 (Sat) and continue on
every other Saturday (except on the long weekend). Please note the
regular games are held weekly as usual.

The organizers are:

STUDENT - Wang Jun    (789-2891), Liu ChangJiang (738-3321)
          Team color: White or light color

JIANGHU - Li Jingming (837-6723), Lin Bin        (831-8511)
          Team color: Dark

The temporary dates are scheduled as the following. If it rains on
Saturday, please check the Hot-line for the notice (831-6192).

Date:   Saturday, July 25.
        Saturday, Aug. 08.
        Saturday, Aug. 22.
        Saturday, Aug. 29.
        Saturday, Sept.12.

Time:   4:30pm SHARP. Players are encouraged to come at 4:00pm to
	get prepared and assigned positions. If you are late, you
	have to play substitute. However, You are always welcome
	even if you are late.

Court:  East of Carleton U.

Bonus:  WATERMELONS will be served after each tournament games !!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From Wang Shaojiu 055119@uottawa.bitnet

2.                  Tennis Tournament

It's a great chance to learn tennis!

Title: The 1992 Ottawa CSSA Tennis Championship Matches
Who:   Members of Ottawa CSSA
When:  Starting Saturday, July 25th, and continues on
Type of games: Man and woman's singles, and possible co-ed
How to register: Call 238-1472
Organizers: Xu Hongwei, Gao Lijun, Bai Lijun,
            Zhang Changgang, Wang Shaojiu
P.S. If you want to have pre-game warm-up, if may want to call Xu Hongwei
at 238-1472, so we can arrange to play together.
From: zyou@alcor.usc.edu (Zhongbai You)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: 26 Jul 1992 11:59:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul25.171400.6304@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>In the same issue of TIME, the page after from cover. It has a article talk
>by those who have ABC knowledge about China, that is the picture that
>showing a CHinese diver in action. It put the diver in upside down position
>
>and legs and pale face(resulted from mometary distress of diving) in front of
>readers. The picture was used to make unfavorable point against Chinese.
>While all other picture of U.S. athletes show smiling faces.

  Tell you what, the Newsweek also has a similar photo "Gao Min jousts with
Gravity" putting Gao Min in an up side down position with an ugly facial 
image.
  Did you guys hear how the NBC reporter describe China team in the Opening
Ceremony. " a strong team... close country like east Germany, discilplined
training... they could get bonus if they win a medal.. ". Fair enough.

  Some people on the net are talking about switching to Newsweek. Don't 
put your expectation higher than Time. Very little if any about China.
After all, it is America's news magazine. I have subscribed US News & World
report, Newsweek for two years, Business Week for half a year.  I dumped 
US News when the international scene became boring.  I kept Newsweek 
because I have to read something. I can tell you guys that the Business 
Week is quite informative. I may dump Newsweek for Vogue.


enjoy the Game

Zhongbai You
From: marcos@pdx047 (Marcos O. Camargo)
Subject: Chongqing
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:58:45 GMT

Anybody familiar with Chongqing could give information about
the weather pattern, vegetation, and lay of the land in this
area?

A comparison with a U.S. area would be great.

Thanks,
 


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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and angry
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:28:52 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul30.025226.25872@> qy1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Qing Yu) writes:
><fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu> writes:
>
><After a bad dive, you could read the sadness on her face.  After a good
><dive, you could tell that she was happy with herself.
>
><The winning diver made technically perfect dives and got out of the
><water looking as if she were a bored robot.  Sure, she won the gold,
>
>Olympic game is a highly technical competition in sports. It's not a comedy
>show. Also, If I grew up with watching such band-filtered broadcasting, I
>probably would also think that other nations do not know how to smile.

This is precisely the problem. The guys grown up under this stereo-typing
media think only the American way of doing things is the *right* way.
They can not accept the idea that there are other ways of doing things,
like how to express feeling.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:13:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul30.153948.26769@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>We are not here to laugh at them.  We feel sorry for them.  We do

You can feel that way, but I feel proud of them. Gues what? I feel sorry
for you.

>not like to see that they have to sacrify their bodies, marriage
>and family lives to satisfy our selfish pride (more of A-Q pride).
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hhhha !?

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zuofeng@hylas.wustl.edu (Zuofeng Li)
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:06:47 -0500

From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)

>I disagree only when the poster say Tempo is bad, but Taura's is good.
>The former is 4 cylinder, the later is 6 cylinder if I am correct.  I
>have owned a few cars, all of them 4 cylinder.  I think Tempo is a good
>choice if China have to buy American cars at all.  It surely cost less
>and more efficient on gas. 
>
>When I lived in Delaware, my landlord is GM worker.  All different cars
>use the exactly same engine.  If you say Tempo is out-dated, why the
>other cars designed by the same company is good?

You're not a car guy are you? :-) What do you think about the Ford
Pinto with a 4 cyl engine? :-) (actually it's pretty cute especially
a Pinto wagon with paintworks. :-)

From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu

>I agree the FORD(Found On Road Dead) Tempo is the lowest live form
>in the world of autos. Let's just hope they got a really good deal,
>say $2000 per car, something like that. :-)

Keep on dreamin'! China paied 32 millions for 3010 Tempos. That's
$10,631 a copy. 

-zuofeng

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: Steroid (and more)
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:20:02 GMT

    >In article <1992Jul29.103411.17912@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Huang) writes:
    =>
    =>I don't want to say another about Chinese athletes. Those who really want
    =>to know the truth should make some friends from the national women's
    =>teams whose sports require strong muscle (not famous ping-peng team please!)
    =>then start by asking the question like "how do you postpone a women athlete's
    =>period if it happens to be during the game?" ...then you would know what to 
    =>ask next.

This is getting ridiculous.  Postponing a women athlete's period is a universal
problem for *ALL* women atheletes around the world, not just for Chinese women!  
There are legal medicine just to do that for a long long time!   Just like medicine
for headache, there is nothing illegal with these drugs.  

Now can we get back to enjoy the Games please?
-cw-
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ze Yang,606 Meyer,(212)998-7728,                )
Subject: Re: Steriods. (was Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal)
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:32:00 GMT

zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu) said:
|> No! I won't be surprised! Just by looking at Zhuang Yong & Lin Li's 
|> bodies and hearing their voice, I believe everything! :)  
Maybe the Olympic Commitee should hire you to "look at" those athelets'
bodies and "hear" their voices to see if they use those prohibited
drugs.

I doubt if the poster is a feamale, she/he is too jealousy about those
girls.

Ze Yang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: duli@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Li Du)
Subject: Re: Mao vs. Deng (Re: incident)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:17:12 GMT

In article <2A6CE520.5911@noiro.acs> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
>first of all, let's get some basic questioned cleared:
>1. How many ways out there people can use to make money?
	There are millions of ways which is better than your way.
>2. is Deng Xiaoping's way the best (among those tradional ways of
>   money making)?
	Deng's way has raised the standard of living of a billion people
	considerably in about 10 years, and more importantly, he and his
	people still have a country! Your way only made yourself better
	off at the price of betraying your country.
>3. Without Deng Xiaoping, will China be runied?
	Probably not. But thank heaven you are not smart enough to be in
	Deng's position, otherwise China would be in serious trouble.
>4. is it true that people cannot make money until they compromise
>   their XinNian (belief)?
	No. Look at yourself, you can make some money without Xin4-Yang3,
	can't you? If believing in money could be count as a Xin-Yang
	then you do have one.
>5. Without Chairman Mao, how will today's China be?
	China would be more advanced economically. If Mao were alive
	today, you probably would be in some remote countryside digging
	earth, and cursing Mao with all your dirty words.
>6. Let's take Shannon Yeh as an example.  Some people said that 
>   Shannon Yeh was conservative; some others said that Shannon Yeh 
>   is an ultra-leftist.  Regardless these staements are true or false,
>   is it true that:
>   6.1  Deng Xiaoping are more open minded than Yeh?
	Deng is definetely not as open minded as you are when it comes
	to making money by whatever means. Deng has much more class and
	higher moral standard than you do as far as money is concerned.
>   6.2  Deng Xiaoping understands how to make money much more 
>        than Yeh does?
	Mr. Ross Perot certainly understands how to make money better than
	Bush and Clinton. But that doesn't prevent him being viewed as a
	pathetic and joking figure by American public.
>   Yeh is just an example here, there are many Yeh compatibles in
>   the US and in China.
	You are a pefect example of the kind of people who would like
	to think themselves be superior to others just because they
	happen to have a little more money. But don't fogget, you are
	still at the very low end of a much larger food chain!

---------------------------------
 Li Du | duli@prony.colorado.edu
---------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Sports[wo]men in Chinese History
Reply-To: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:55:49 GMT

I am sorry, in my previous, he should be Mr. Lu, rather than Mr Wu.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu)
Subject: Re: Steriods. (was Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:45:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.102928.4460@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Huang) writes:
|> Please understand that here I am not to accuse anyone using anything.  But
|> please don't be too surprised if you have a good friend who graduated
|> (or got an MS degree) from BeiJingTiYuXueYuan and works as scientist in 
|> Guo2Jia1 Ti3Yu4 Ke1Yan2 Suo3 or as a trainer with a women's national 
|> (cycling, T&F, swimming, skating...etc.) team, and he/she happens to tell
|> you in a casual tone (you're good friends, right?) how those athletes are
|> scheduled for their diet, training sessions, their periods, ... don't be
|> too surprised if you hear how their muscles are developed, don't be too 
|> surprised if your friend happens to know Ye QiaoBo (or some other 
|> unfortunate ones who just got caught but never known by the public) and 
|> tells you what actually happened.  Don't be too surprised when your 
|> friend tell you why in many sports that require muscle strength Chinese
|> girls did much better than guys (how many women's weightlifting world 
|> records are held by Chinese?). Don't be surprised when your friend tells 
|> you that in China AND MANY SPORT POWERHOUSE COUNTRIES there're scientists
|> who work their butt off to find a way to NOT GET CAUGHT --all in the name
|> of Ti3Yu4 Ke1Yan2........ Remember, sterois is only one of few drugs that
|> listed in the test and there're tons of others out there which are "better
|> for certain purposes", and there're tons of "scientists" all over the world.
|> Unfortunately the fact in the 90's seems to be that there is much more
|> BEHIND THE CAMERA than before, and if you're caught, you're just an unlucky 
|> SOB that everybody would laugh at, but if you get away with it, well.....do
|> we need to say more?
|> --Andy
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> =============================== Andy Huang <huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
|> P.S. Thank you for reading my article. We may not share the same idea but I 
|> respect whatever thoughts you may have. Please feel free to agree/disagree, 
|> to laugh/criticize/protest. Or to use "kill", s'il vous plait.


No! I won't be surprised! Just by looking at Zhuang Yong & Lin Li's bodies and 
hearing their voice, I believe everything! :)  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.201757.25744@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.184156.771@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
>>
>>According to the latest issue of Time magazine. China the whole nation
>>has only 60 swimming pools. Is this a joke or truth? It certainly 
>>doesn't fit my experiences. China has more than 1000 colleges and 
>>universities, majority of whom should have a swimming pool just to 
>>support the phyisical education classes. Most cities have more than
>>5 swimming pools for public uses ( I know Lanzhou does and There are
>>more than 30 cities at the same level as Lanzhou). The author was 
>>full of ignorance and prejudice in the article. It's a typical cold
>>war mentality kind of article. It claims that the Chinese athletes
>>are state-sponsored while forgetting the U.S athletes are privately
>>sponsored. The only difference is the source of sponsorship while
>>the fundamental objective and results are the same. It claims the 
>>kids are taken away from  their parents (forced) while the truth of
>>the matter is that in almost all the cases the parents AND the kids
>>willingly want the organized training. It claims that the athlets
>>are illiterate where as the matter of the fact is that the atheletes
>>still have regular grade school classes and they are no less illiterate
>>than their U.S. counterpart.
>>
>You are right. It IS a hostile article.
>
>>Anyway, I think its a shame that a magazine like Time would publish
>>pieces of crap like this. All concerned should write to Time to 
>>correct this not-so-negligible error. 
>>
>That is the trick of media. The bias is hidden in the words.
>
>>More comments are welcome! 
>>No Flames, please!
>>:wq
>>
>Tingli Pan

I read from talk.politics.misce that says: the reason for low prison
rate in China is that most prisoners are executed. and Gave a vivid 
description that 18 factory managers were executed because
not fill the productiono quatos recently!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Who_care_what_you_think?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:27:47 GMT

In article <9207292236.AA07751@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu> xzhu@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Xiaowu Zhu) writes:
>	Hello netters :
>	  I kept on reading articles in this news group about Olympic
>	  games. A lot of complaints, a lot of unsatisfactions on 
>	  how NBC reported the games on TV. 
>	  Who care it ?
>	  Who care what you think about their reports ?
>	  Here is America, not China. Americans only are interested in
>	  their victories in Olympic games. Why should they spend time
>	  watching other countries' victories in the games ?
>	  Nobody invites you to come here. You can see what you want
>	  to see about the Olympic games on TV in your (our) own
>	  country. Why are you(we) here in America ?
>	  Americans --- the people of this country have right to see
>	  what they want to see on TV in their own country.
>	  Never forget, WE ARE FOREIGNERS HERE.
>
>
>	  I pray for the victories of China Olympic team.

I agree with you to some degree. But the trouble is that the coverage
is also disappointing to many Americans. Why couldn't they show us
those non-american champions?

I am also from the Big Family of "Who Care."

But we also worship winners. We care about those medalists, in
addition to the losers. 

Anyway, the break time has come.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:40:03 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <(~{5K6,F=~})DENG.92Jul30121919@math12.bnlux1.bnl.gov> deng@bnlux1.bnl.gov (~{5K6,F=~}) writes:
>
>  Yuan> The meaning of Olympic is not for the medal, not for our selfish
>  Yuan> pride and not for cruel body abuse, but rather for the upward
>
>That's facist, nazist, communist and captalist propaganda. It never has and
>never will. 

This is a very interesting comment.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gm2@cec1.wustl.edu (Guo Mian)
Subject: Re: About Jie4 Zhong3
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:56:23 GMT

In article <9207301903.AA17703@phloem.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu writes:
>
>          Steve writes:
>          > (to produce big bulk and limbs) How about jie4 zhong3?
>          > da4 gan4 kuai4 shang4 ...
>
>          I'd say adoptation of African kids is more feasible for
>          they currently don't have much to eat.

     One comment.

          American blacks are much stronger physicaly than African blacks.
          You can see this easily if you have watched basketball game 
          between "Dream team" and Angola team.     As to the reason of 
          this physical disparaty, you know, the unbearable hardships of 
          shipping from African shore to American shore, and plantation 
          laboring has played a role of screening of "zhong3".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china