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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Subject: Re: Therion and the evil Norwegians, the story continues
Organization: Beverly Hills 666
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:14:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.102640.1734@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:

   Euronym??? something is it... where did I get the Hier- part from?
   Anyway, "the one remaining member"? I have an interview made with him from
   last year where he said that the band was still "alive" (dead 8-/), but
   they didn't have a new vocalist, no-one was worthy.
   When the interview was made Euronym??? had recently been released from jail
   - is he there again?

I really don't know, the last I heard Euro* was on suspended sentence or the
norwegian equivalent. 

   >How is Burzum related to Tolkien ? I don't recall the name from LotR.
   >As a band they're pretty adept at copying old Bathory...
   >
   The inscription on the Ring - "burzum" is supposed to mean dark or black or
   something. (also Lugburz - the dark tower). Followup to alt.fan.tolkien

Gosh, my fan-licence just got revoked - it seems :-)

   One significant think about these "true" Black/Death bands is that they all
   soung more or less like old Bathory... (I haven't heard Burzum, but both
   Mayhem and Darkthrone (on the latest album) does)

Yes, Burzum is clearly aiming for the 3rd Bathory album IMO.

   >
   >And as to create a lighter shade of black to my message I'd just like
   >to say that the 'new' Tiamat "Claws" seems to be a real classic. 
   >/* Just 2 tracks into my ears so far */

   Er, it's called "Clouds". But yes, it's a real classic. 

Ahm, I blame the DJ - I could swear he called it Claws... 

   [_<X>_] Thomas Wolmer        | just sadness and sorrow        |
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : You're a notch and I'm a legend - Alice Cooper
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Nuclear Death
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:17:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan7.213029.29518@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc8376@writer.yorku.ca (Theodore Wong) writes:
>Hey, does anyone know about a band called Nuclear Death?  They are a
>grindcore band with a female singer.  Where are they from and how do I
>get a hold of their LP?
>

I have SCREAMER magazine as of 1990 or 1991 and it mentioned NUCLEAR DEATH
as a local California band . They put LP (kinda demo) out , but I guess it has 
never been well distributed.....

--Leonid


PS. I have never heard grindcore band with FEMALE vocalist.BoltThrower has
female only as a bass player!

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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Subject: Re: Therion and the evil Norwegians, the story continues
Organization: Beverly Hills 666
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:35:39 GMT

In article <1i9jb2INNbco@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> sharaeec@w228zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Aditya Sharma) writes:

   In article <1993Jan4.111431.16059@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:

   >The Circle is a kind of association of mostly Norwegian Black/Death bands,
   >with Hieronymus (sp?) from Mayhem as their leader. 
		  (details deleted)
   >The Circle, or at least the band Mayhem, has a record label
   >"Deathlike Silence Production" and a record store in Oslo called Helvete (i
   >means Hell).

   ...hmmm...I'm interested in knowing more about this as well - Euronymus
   (sp?...again!) gets a mention on a couple of releases I've seen,
   including DARKTHRONE's  "A Blaze in the Nothern Sky"...another
   name I've come across more than once (a band this time) is NECROMANTIA
   ...anything on this?...

Well, Euronymous (sp? - this is getting chronic) is the one remaining member
of the Mayhem, who - the last I heard was in jail after stabbing someone.
Mayhem's ex-vocalist Pelle (Pekka) Dead committed suicide by slashing his
wrists AND blowing his brains out with a gun <this is at least how I 
remember it, happened some 18 mo's ago>. 

I have heard the name Necromantia, but it was some years ago and it was
a Yanqui band so probably this is a different outfit.

[I butchered Thomas's lines by accident so the following 
_will_ be confusing :-( ]

How is Burzum related to Tolkien ? I don't recall the name from LotR.
As a band they're pretty adept at copying old Bathory...


And as to create a lighter shade of black to my message I'd just like
to say that the 'new' Tiamat "Claws" seems to be a real classic. 
/* Just 2 tracks into my ears so far */
   -- 
   Aditya Sharma                        Dept. of Aerospace Engineering 

--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : You're a notch and I'm a legend - Alice Cooper

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From: labrie@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Dany Labrie)
Subject: Want Info about GORGUTS (sp?)
Reply-To: bnrmtl!labrie@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:39:39 GMT

--

Hi out there,

Gorguts (sp?) just kicked their bassplayer out and asked one of my 
best friend (Steve Cloutier) to fill the spot. He accepted the offer
and moved to Sherbrooke (Canada, Quebec) a few weeks ago. He gave up
a lot to join this band: job, his own band, the city he was living in
and his friends... But he thinks this was the right move even though
he's not too crazy about Gorguts' music (Death Metal his not really his 
style). But he's such a good bassplayer that they wanted him anyway.

Death Metal is not my style as well so for me they sond like any other
DM band. What I'd like to hear is comments about the band from people 
who are into this kind of music (music, how well known they are where 
you live, concerts, etc...).  I know they only have one CD but the 
second one will be out in three weeks from now. Don't feel like you 
have to tell me they kick ass just because one of my best friend is in 
the band. If they suck, well... they suck.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated. I'm really curious to hear about
this band even if it's about their logo.

-- 

       Don't blame me for the wording and spelling:
       C'est la faute a mes parents, pas la mienne.

       Danny Labrie
       Bell-Northern Research, Montreal, Canada
       bnrmtl!labrie@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu

       "Life sucks... but so does my girlfirend :-)"

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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: glen benton's penis:  eighteen inches, or just squat?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:07:13 GMT

In article <JKONRATH.93Jan4211014@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.182045.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Malevolessence) writes:
>
>Most of the bands I consider 'ahead' because of their goofiness/morbidness/
>soulfulness would probably be Entombed, Dismember, Tiamat, Therion, Asphyx, 
>and Desultory on the Swedish front..bands like Deicide, Morbid Angel, 
>Bolt Thrower, etc on the American front.  Its just some bands have a certain

	Bolt Thrower are American??  I always thought they were British.  If
not, they're the only American band I know of having members with limey
accents!

Revoking your license to live,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Nuclear Death
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:17:30 GMT

Speaking of female death vocalists...

I just picked up a two song demo from a band from Florida called
Acrimonium.  Good stuff.  The lead singer's name is Audra.  She has
a really brutal voice.  (I wonder what she sounds like in bed).

                                                      ->Later.....Spice
From: sharaeec@w228zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Aditya Sharma)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Therion and the evil Norwegians, the story continues
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:58:42 GMT
Organization: Technical Universtity Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: w228zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de



In article <1993Jan4.111431.16059@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:

>The Circle is a kind of association of mostly Norwegian Black/Death bands,
>with Hieronymus (sp?) from Mayhem as their leader. 
               (details deleted)
>The Circle, or at least the band Mayhem, has a record label
>"Deathlike Silence Production" and a record store in Oslo called Helvete (it
>means Hell).

...hmmm...I'm interested in knowing more about this as well - Euronymus
(sp?...again!) gets a mention on a couple of releases I've seen,
including DARKTHRONE's  "A Blaze in the Nothern Sky"...another
name I've come across more than once (a band this time) is NECROMANTIA
...anything on this?...

Thomas also writes:
>Can any of our Norwegian friends correct me or come with more details?

....right, don't let us down here...


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sharaeec@w228zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de    Technical University Berlin,Germany
    Snail: Nostitzstrasse 27, W-1000 Berlin 61 Tel:(0049)-30-6946516
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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Master of Misery
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:04:58 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA



This is new Erache compilation that is available only in Japan.
Compilation consist of black sabbath covers of erache bands.
Cathedral covers SOLITUDE and some other.Pitch Shifter covers SNOBLIND I think.
Godflesh goes for Zero the Hero etc...


--Leonid
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Nuclear Death
Originator: tphailey@c00018-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:05:31 GMT


> Hey, does anyone know about a band called Nuclear Death?  They are a
> grindcore band with a female singer.  Where are they from and how do I
> get a hold of their LP?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ted     wc8376@writer.yorku.ca

Nuclear Death are from Arizona, I believe. Their albums are on Wild Rags
and I have seen them in some Record Bars. The music is OK, but the lyrics
are great, really creative for death metal, kinda sick, but that's what we
like I suppose.

TOMASS   
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: glen benton's penis:  eighteen inches, or just squat?
Originator: tphailey@c00013-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:11:24 GMT


> In article <JKONRATH.93Jan4211014@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan3.182045.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Malevolessence) writes:
> >
> >Most of the bands I consider 'ahead' because of their goofiness/morbidness/
> >soulfulness would probably be Entombed, Dismember, Tiamat, Therion, Asphyx, 
> >and Desultory on the Swedish front..bands like Deicide, Morbid Angel, 
> >Bolt Thrower, etc on the American front.  Its just some bands have a certain
> 
> 	Bolt Thrower are American??  I always thought they were British.  If
> not, they're the only American band I know of having members with limey
> accents!
> 
> Revoking your license to live,
> 						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>                                                      __   __            
>                                                     /  `-' /          ,,
>                                                     |[====|||||||||||[::}
>                                                     \__.-._\          `` 

No, Bolt Thrower are from England. Oh, by the way, I remember someone
a good while ago asking for an Earache discography
From: se2da@dmu.ac.uk (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Pantera UK tour dates
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:39:57 GMT
Organization: De Montfort University, Leicester, UK

Does anyone know the Pantera tour dates?
thanks

dave
From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Subject: Metal in Dallas
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:32:42 GMT


I'll be in Dallas Texas from 01/16/93-01/20/93
and again from 02/08/93-02/11/93.

Does anyone know of any metal stations
that I shold preset my car to? Any stations
playing "hardcore" (as in the Old D.R.I.,
Angry Samoans, etc variety)

Also, are there any shows comming into town
during each of my stays?


*PLEASE* respond by e-mail only.

================================================================================

"I tried a shot at phone sex to pacify my bone
 I ran out of spare change and jerked off to dial tone"

	-"Safe Sex" by Intense Mutilation (off the "Safe Sex" LP)


						cg
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: glen benton's penis:  eighteen inches, or just squat?
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
	<JKONRATH.93Jan3004117@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<1993Jan3.182045.1@pomona.claremont.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:10:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.182045.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Malevolessence) writes:

   > I think Entombed, Dismember, and maybe one or two other bands are ahead in
   > that they just have that extra touch to them.  its usually attitude.  its
   > hard to describe, but it puts a few bands ahead of the rest.

	 Dismember have a certain endearing goofiness.  I respect your opinion;
   would you be so kind as to tell me those other bands, in case I _haven't_
   discovered them?  

Most of the bands I consider 'ahead' because of their goofiness/morbidness/
soulfulness would probably be Entombed, Dismember, Tiamat, Therion, Asphyx, 
and Desultory on the Swedish front..bands like Deicide, Morbid Angel, 
Bolt Thrower, etc on the American front.  Its just some bands have a certain
step ahead..its the same from classical to jazz to rap to opera though, a 
certain performer will just have that extra hook to their work...

   > Christian death metal, anti-death metal satanists...what is next, 
   > anti-medical treatment doctors?

	   anti-glove proctologists...

Anti-premarital sex prostitutes..

-j
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From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: alt.thrash
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:18:10 GMT

In article <106771@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.110109.13187@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>>It *is* Napalm Death. Much more than on "Harmony Corruption" at least.
>
>what do you mean IT IS ND????
>
You said "It's not NAPALM DEATH anymore", and I supposed that you meant that
this was because the music was so different. IMO it is not *that* different
(than on "Scum"). OK, it's slightly different than "Scum", but take
FATO instead. It had the same number of original members playing on it (2),
and I don't have any problems seeing it as being made by the same band that
made "Utopia Bansished".

>>Do you expect a band to sound like on "Scum" throughout their whole
>>existance? :-)
>
>Bullshit.Original members gone and new ones just play different music.
>I didn't say they SHOULD play SCUM always .But there are always original roots.
I'm not sure what your point is here but...
IMO a band can still be "the same" even if none of the original members are
left in it.

Well, lets say that this band is not the same as the original Napalm Death.
When did they cease to be Napalm Death then? When Mick Harris left?
But what drastical changes are there between the music on "Mass Appeal Madness"
and UB?

-- 
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Nuclear Death
Originator: tphailey@c00028-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:59:06 GMT


>...I'm not going to serve myself up for flaming here, but I have a
>NUCLEAR DEATH record called "Carrion For Worm" on tape and I'm pretty
>sure there wasn't a female vocalist on this rather morbid work...
>
>...are we talking about the same band?...

OK, no flame, but it is a female vocalist. Lori Bravo plays base and sings,
if that's what you call it. Anyway, I have Carrion For Worm and Bride Of
Insect. Both are pretty noisy and sick. Chris Reifert of Autopsy does sing
on one or two songs on Carrion, but for the most part, it's Lori.

TOMASS
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Napalm Death
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:25:51 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

I took a look on line up in SCUM which is 1986-1987 and then compared
it with current line up.Holy shit! There is no common member at all.
On SCUM there were Lee-vox, Jim-bass,Bill-guitar,Mick-drums.
All members were gone except Mick.He was still on HARMONY CORRUPTION.
But after this CD he was gone as well.

So how can new members use the name NAPALM DEATH and use this logo. I fucking
don't get it!




--Leonid

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: all the glen benton stuff confirmed by roadrunner
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:55:44 GMT


Today I got a letter from Roadrunner, a piece of mail they typically send
out to the people/magazines on their publicity list...i thought it was 
strange, seeing has I just got their latest mailing not too long ago.

Well, they sent out a one-page letter telling the whole story of what went
on with benton, the stockholm bombing, and the animal rights activists.
(i dont have it with me, but i could type it in tonite if there is enough
interest)

basically, it told of the stockholm bombing, stating that major structural
damage was caused and some people were hurt, not seriously, and about how
Deicide could only play a limited set.  It also contained the text from
3 pieces of mail, two from the animal activists, and one from benton.  

it was basically a bunch of hype, and Roadrunner made it look like Benton
was some kind of deity and that the 'powers of evil prevailed' because 
he wasnt killed in the UK on the 17th.  The letter from the group said
something like 'when you signed to play on the 17th you signed your own
death certificate'

its either very evil or very humorous, depending on how sober you are at the
time....

-j
--
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From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Heathen Undergarment)
Subject: Re: Therion and the evil Norwegians, the story continues
Organization: Ouphilia, Inc.
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:53:02 PST

> Furbowl have an album out an a small Swedish label (Step One Productions).
> It's called "Those Shredded Dreams" and although it isn't recorded in
> Sunlight it has the generic Swedish sound. Produced by Mike Amott of Carcass,
> who also plays some leads on it I think.
> 
> Therion are IMO one of the best bands to come out of here... The debut album
> "Into Darkness" was different, even though it came from Sunlight, but
> the latest album "Into Sanctorum" is absolutely incredible. Among the more
> dynamic Death Metal you can find.

	Will hunt for it.  Found "Of Darkness" (?) but haven't had a chance to
hear it yet.  Sounds interesting...dynamic...?...rad!
> The Circle is a kind of association of mostly Norwegian Black/Death bands,
> with Hieronymus (sp?) from Mayhem as their leader. Other bands involved are
> Burzum* and Darkthrone. Swedish bands in touch with them are Marduk and
> Abruptum (no, you don't have to feel embarrased if you haven't heard them).
> Also Polish (no longer existing) Tormentor seems to be involved.
> As said, they want to rid the Death Metal scene of all bands who aren't
> satanic or evil, including, as they've said, "a few hundred Swedish bands".
> They especially loath bands with socially concerned lyrics, "Life Metal"
> as they call it.
> They have burnt down a few churches in Norway and sent death threats to
> a bunch of bands, even Paradise Lost I have heard. The band topping their
> death (life?) list is Therion (because of their lyrics to their first album),
> and someone have tried to burn down Christofer Johnson's
> (Therion's vocalist/guitarist/songwriter) parent's house (it failed). There
> are enought rumours around to satisfy the most paranoid, but the deed seems
> to have some connection to the Circle.
> The Circle, or at least the band Mayhem, has a record label
> "Deathlike Silence Production" and a record store in Oslo called Helvete (it
> means Hell).

	Grrreat.  As if the world weren't fucked up enough...sounds like an
attitude problem in the loosest sense of the word.  Hey, at least we know
they're not "posers"...they really do act on this stuff!  <V0MIT>

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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Want Info about GORGUTS (sp?)
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:00:18 GMT

You got the spelling right.  IMHO Gorguts is a great band.  I don't think 
they kick total ass, but they are up there on my list.  Some of the members
are big Cannibal Corpse fans (who happens to be my favorite band) but their 
songs aren't nearly as gross.  They are sick, but not like CC.  I read
somewhere that their demo tape sold over 1000 copies, which is incredible
for a demo.  _Considered Dead_ also sold extremely well (for death metal).
The opinions I've gotten from people is that people really respect them.
They are talented musicians with a powerful sound.  (This is all my 
opinion and I'm sure there are people out there who disagree with me).
I think your friend made a good move.  Gorguts is not a rinky-dink no-
name band trying to establish themselves.  I saw them when they opened
for Cannibal and I and the rest of the audience loved them.

                                                     ->Later.....Spice
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Relativity
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:59:41 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Relativity label phone # is needed, thanks.

--Leonid