From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Re. soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:39:06 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov4.131906.28711@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, njamil@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nasir Jamil) writes:
> ...
> [deleted]
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>>>  =============================================
>>>  Mr. Asim Mughal and Mr. D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar both moderators
>>> of
>>>  Soc.Religion.Islam group have been asking to provide proof that S.R.I
>>>  moderators have been acting biased or unfair to postings from Ahmadi
>>>  Muslims . Both of them claim never any biased behaviour against Ahmadies
>>>  existed.  Both of them may be all out good persons but they have been only
>>>  moderators for a year or two and still tend to speak for all times. 
>>
>>Making such a claim is against the principles of Islam!!
> 
> WHAT CLAIM AND WHAT PRINCIPLES OF iSLAM ARE YOU REFERRING HERE?

What claim?  I assumed you have been present and following the discussion.
my mistake.

What principals of Islam?  I assummed you to claim you were a sect of Islam...
again, my mistake.
> 
>>
>>The posts that are rejected have to follow a criteria.  Is it inflammatory?.
>>If not, is it relevant to Islam.  It is not rejected because of person XYZ
>>posting is an Ahmedhi or ??? 
>>
>>Therefore the charge made has to be proved or *if* it cannot be proved, it should
>>not have been made AT ALL!!  Those who follow the tenets of Islam and claim
>>to be Muslims have to abide by the principals of Islam!!!
>>
> 
> IT IS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BY LOOKING AT RESPONSES FROM THE NON
> AHMADI MULSIMS THAT ANY THING AN AHMADI HAS TO SAY IS INFLAMATORY OR
> IRRELEVANT TO ISLAM IN THE EYES OF NON-AHMADI MUSLIMS. JUST AN EXAMPLE
> HERE, IN PAKISTAN AHMADIS ARE NOT TOLERATED TO PRACTICE THEIR FAITH BY
> LAW BECAUSE IT  "HURTS" THE FEELINGS OF OTHER MUSLIMS. WHAT WILL YOU
> MAKE OF IT IF THEY SAY WE DID NOT FORBID THEM TO COME TO OUR MOSQUE
> AND PRAY. IT IS SAME SITUATION HERE. YOU HAVE MADE THE LAWS ABOUT YOUR
> SO CALLED soc.religion.islam NEWSGROUP THAT THINGS ARE REJECTED BECAUSE
> THEY ARE INFLAMATORY OR NOT RELEVANT TO ISLAM. YOU REJECT THE BELEIFS
> OF AHMADIS BEING ISLAMIC AT ALL WITHOUT EVEN READING THEIR BOOKS
> BECAUSE YOU FEEL THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REAED WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
> THEY ARE NOT RELEVANT TO ISLAM. THAT IS ENOUGH PROOF OF DISCRIMINATION.


(btw, there is no need to shout.  I can read quite well. )

Have you read the Qur'an and the Sunnah. 

> 
> 	YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON  QURAN and SUNNAH.

Isn't that what *all* the muslim's understanding should be based on?!

> sincerely request Rukhsan Merchant and others, that for the sake of Islam,
> please be open minded and study the books of Ahmadiyya. I gurantee
> that you will like what there is to say. Do not hurt the feelings
> of Ahmadis by trying to take Islam from them. How will you feel
> if someone tries to take your last name away from you?

I request you to read the Sunnah, because *that* and the Holy Qur'an should 
be your basis of understanding. The teachings of Prophet Muhammed (SAW) 
should be followed and not the books of Ahmadiyya.  The Ahmadiyya 
belong to a seperate religion.  Period.  

Take some time to study the Sunnah, insha allah.
> 
> Nasir Jamil.

Ms. Merchant.
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