HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Subject: RFD: rec.games.rpg.board
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:22:52 GMT

Request for new group: rec.games.rpg.board

This is a proposal for a news group which would discuss those
games containing elements of both role playing games and 
board games.  The primary games under consideration are 
Battletech/Mechwarrior and Warhammer/Warhammer 40K although
is not limited to those two.  

The discussion would include, but is not limited to, discussion
of the various aspects of the game, computerized versions of 
the games, novelizations, computer programs to assist players
of the games, design aspects of the games, troubleshooting
problems, and any other aspect of these games not mentioned.

It is proposed that this be an unmoderated group.

Please followup all discussion to news.groups or e-mail me
at lib1p@jetson.uh.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.sport,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.vw,nj.market.autos,fj.rec.autos,alt.autos.antique
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: RFD: rec.autos.antique
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:53:43 GMT

Some months ago, I created alt.autos.antique.  There seems to have been
sufficient traffic in that newsgroup to justify a discussion and vote
on the creation of rec.autos.antique.

    This is a formal RFD or Request for Discussion.

When this post appears in news.announce.newgroups and other appropriate 
newsgroups, it will signify the beginning of a thirty day period of
discussion and suggestions both pro and con concerning the proposed
newsgroup rec.autos.antique.  Following this period, a vote will be
taken for or against the proposal.

    Proposed Charter for rec.autos.antique

Definition:  Antique auto - Although the definition of an antique auto
			    may differ in various circles, for the
			    purpose of this newsgroup, an antique auto
			    shall be any automobile, foreign or domestic
			    manufactured more than twenty-five years
			    ago.

Rec.autos.antique shall be a haven for discussion of all aspects of
antique autos.  Suggested topics may include:

    *  Discussion concerning location of parts for an antique auto.
    *  Antique autos for sale or wanted.
    *  Upcoming car shows featuring antiques autos, etc.
    *  Questions and comment regarding antique car restoration.
    *  History of various marques.
    *  Nostalgia - Reminiscing about cars (now antique) you or someone
       else used to own.

Rec.autos.antique shall NOT be for the discussion for the non-stock
modification, customization or souping up of antique autos.

Let the discussion begin.

Notice, by the way, that all follow-up discussion will take place in
news.groups!
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractals,comp.graphics,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys,comp.theory.cell-automata,alt.config,comp.compression
From: cabku01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Hartwig Kuehbauch)
Subject: RFD: sci.chem.organomet
Followup-To: news.groups
Keywords: chemistry,organic,inorganic,organometallic,science
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:22:56 GMT

Dear netters!

As most of you'll know there is a substantial lack of science newsgroups,
especially related to chemistry. To my knowledge there are only the
groups
         sci.chem
         sci.engr.chem

Also there are some mailing-lists related to chemistry as, for example

         chminf-l
         chemistry
         orgche    (seems to be NOT active)

It's a pity that normally these lists and groups didn't support special
parts of chemistry, such as organic-, inorganic- or physical-chemistry.

Another major part of todays chemistry is held by organometallic chemistry.
A subject which seems to be totally unknown to the net. Therefore I want
to initiate the discussion about a new newsgroup called

         sci.chem.organomet

This newsgroup could be a home for all chemists who work on organometallic
chemistry, but also for all people who work on organic chemistry, because
an organometallic chemist is always an organic chemist too!

This newsgroup should be unmoderated. That's my opinion, but surely that's
something to clear in this discussion.

So please, all you chemists out there, help me in getting this newsgroup
online!

Regards
           Hartwig Kuehbauch
-- 
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= (cabku01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de)     - Germany -                   =
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.misc,comp.os.misc,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.intel,comp.unix.misc,comp.databases.oracle
From: bazyar@csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:35:22 GMT

CALL FOR VOTES on the creation of COMP.SYS.APPLE2.GNO

Recently with the addition of the GNO program (offering the
Apple IIgs computer the ability to multi-task, and have a Unix
multitasking shell), it has been discovered that a superior form of
communication among the users, and non-users of GNO, is needed.

o	The GNO-L mailing list is a strain on the resources of the list's
	host machine, which is connected through a SLIP link.
o	Many GNO users are not permitted by their sysadmins to receive
	mailing lists.
o	Discussion on the GNO product (both on the list, and in
	various other Usenet conferences) suggests that there is
	overwhelming support for the creation of such a newsgroup.
o	A newsgroup will advertise the fact of the product's existence.
	Information on Apple II products is always hard to come by.
o	Much information is posted to GNO-L that would be of interest
	to the general Apple II USENET audience.
o	The volume of letters/articles related to the GNO product
	has grown dramatically since the product was released.
	It is fitting to create a group which will specifically
 	address matters brought up concerning GNO.
o	Creation of this group would hopefully stimulate more
      	and more detailed discussion of specifically related
      	issues.


The vote for this newsgroup will last from today (September 15, 1992) to
October 6 1992, a total of 21 days.

After the newsgroup is (tentatively) created a link to the existing GNO-L 
will be created (on the existing GNO-L host machine) to service those who
cannot receive the new newsgroup through regular channels.

To vote, please send EMAIL with the subject "VOTE" or "GNO VOTE"
to the following address:

bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu

To vote yes, the message must contain the text
"I vote YES for the creation of comp.sys.apple2.gno"
or to vote no, write
"I vote NO for the creation of comp.sys.apple2.gno".

Variations are accepted as long as it is clear that you are voting
for comp.sys.apple2.gno and it is VERY clear which way you are voting.
You may also ABSTAIN, but there's no real point in sending me a note then,
right? :)

Any votes which are posted to GNO-L or comp.sys.apple2 will NOT repeat
NOT be counted. You must email bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu DIRECTLY.
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 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.society.civil-liberty,soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk
From: Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.society.acad-freedom.news, comp.society.acad-freedom.talk
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:57:10 GMT

This is a second request for discussion regarding creation of two
newsgroups for discussions and news on academic freedom on computers
and networks.

The groups currently exist as alt groups.  The alt versions of the
newsgroups have estimated July readership of 29000 and 9000.  (The
readership can be expected to increase as the Fall term starts in many
places.) About 390 folks get various versions of the mailling list.

Current charters:

Purpose: To discuss questions such as: How should general principles
of academic freedom (such as freedom of expression, freedom to read,
due process, and privacy) be applied to university computers and
networks? How are these principles actually being applied? How can the
principles of academic freedom as applied to computers and networks be
defended?


comp.society.acad-freedom.news	News concerning academic freedom, moderated

CAF-News - The best notes from CAF-Talk as selected and abstracted by
a moderator. (Moderator of record Carl Kadie, kadie@eff.org.)


comp.society.acad-freedom.talk	Discussions on academic freedom

CAF-Talk - A free-speech forum focused on, but not limited to, these
issues.


Alternative names for the groups are:

c.s.freedom.acad.talk, c.s.freedom.acad.news
c.s.freedom.academic, c.s.freedom.academic.best
c.s.freedom.academic, c.s.freedom.academic.digest
c.s.acad-freedom, c.s.acad-freedom.best
c.s.acad-freedom, c.s.acad-freedom.digest

(or variations thereof)

The discussion on this proposal will take place in news.groups.

Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and
news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in
creating a newsgroup (<spaf-howto_711614959@cs.purdue.edu>).

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.protocols.snmp,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: rlg@desktalk.com (Richard L. Gralnik)
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.sun.sunnet.manager
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: DeskTalk Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:06:55 GMT

Request For Discussion

Proposed Newsgroup:  comp.sys.sun.sunnet.manager (open to discussion of course)

Type:	Unmoderated

Charter:This newsgroup is intended for the discussion of SunNet Manager.
	This can include any topic of interest to the poster, including
	tricks, how-to's, complaints, suggestions, genuine calls for help,
	and other SNM related issues.
	

Discussion:	Further discussion on forming this newsgroup should be posted
	to the 'news.groups'  group.  Interested parties are welcome to email
	rlg@desktalk.com too.


A Call For Votes will take place in 30 days per the Usenet Group Creation
guidelines.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.apple2
From: bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Buffalo Bill Glazier)
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.graphics.opengl
Followup-To: poster
Organization: asd.sgi.com
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:42:21 GMT

(Please note this is a second posting of the CFV for comp.graphics.opengl,
originally posted 9/1/92.  For those who have already responded there is no
need to respond or vote a second time)

GROUP:	comp.graphics.opengl

STATUS: Unmoderated

CHARTER:  This is the initial Call For Votes (CFV) on the proposed new
newsgroup comp.graphics.opengl. 

comp.graphics.opengl will allow for discussion regarding technical and
marketing issues surrounding the OpenGL 3D application programming
interface and its emergence as a multiplatform graphics standard for
distributed three dimensional graphics.

Currently a great deal of net discussion takes place about OpenGL,
unfortunately spread out among either newsgroups which are too
general, vendor specific newsgroups, or newsgroups dedicated to
competing API's or graphics protocols.

A dedicated newsgroup will allow for:

1) Technical discussion of the OpenGL API, OpenGL Utility Library,
and GL/X Wire protocol:  Comparison versus prior releases
of the GL.  Input concerning desired enhancements or new features.
 
Programming issues and techniques.  Analysis of implementations
in different environments (Windows NT, Macintosh OS, Unix..).  Porting
to OpenGL.  

2) Marketing and Business Issues Analysis: Product plans of OpenGL
licensees.

Comparison versus other 2D and 3D graphics API's. Performance benchmarks
and competitive analysis.  

VOTING INSTRUCTIONS:


The voting period for this CFV is as follows:

    Start:  Tuesday,  September 1, 1992,  0700 PST 
    End:    Tuesday,  September 22, 1992, 0700 PST 

In order to be counted, a vote must be **received** during the voting
period.

To vote, send electronic mail to:

If you wish to vote YES for comp.graphics.opengl
   - Send a message containing the words "Yes: comp.graphics.opengl"
to yes@buffalo.asd.sgi.com

If you wish to vote NO for comp.graphics.opengl
   - Send a message containing the words "No: comp.graphics.opengl"
to no@buffalo.asd.sgi.com


DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  POSTED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED!!
Do not send your vote directly back to me! It will not be counted!
All further discussion regarding this should be posted to news.groups.


RESULTS:

Shortly after the completion of the voting period, the vote tally and
the E-mail addresses and names of the voters will be posted on
comp.graphics, comp.sys.sgi, comp.windows.x.pex,
news.announce.newgroups, and news.groups.  The tally will include a
detailed listing of how each person voted so that the results can be
verified.  After the voting results appear there will be a 5 day
waiting period during which readers will have a chance to correct any
errors in the voting lists or the voting procedure.
-- 
Bill Glazier
bglazier@asd.sgi.com
Graphics Technology Licensing
Silicon Graphics, Inc.
415-390-1617
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.compression,comp.dsp,comp.multimedia,sci.lang
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Subject: RFD: soc.religion.friends
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:56:23 GMT

Request discussion regarding soc.Friends or soc.religion.Friends
as an avenue for communication of some literature regarding the life
of members of Religious Society of Friends (Quakers).  This
would mainly include publication of American Friends Service Committee
media spec. Quaker Service Bulletin, AFSC Resources, regional office notes,
Annual Report, electronic and standard contacts, local meeting 
minutes, Right Sharing of World Resources, Criminal Justice and Prison 
Reform, and guides to travelling friends.

Unmoderated or moderated.  Suggest unmoderated.

Initially group would be used to support resource sharing on local levels.

Follow up to news.groups or my address.  I think this needs at least
100 votes.
-- 
Andrew Rose andyrose@netcom.com FAX 4155537756 When peace rules the planet 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.software.b,news.software.nntp,news.admin.misc
From: kent@imd.sterling.com (Kent Landfield)
Subject: RFD: news.software.inn
Followup-To: news.groups
Keywords: INN
Organization: Sterling Software
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:39:00 GMT

NAME:    
	news.software.inn
STATUS: 
	unmoderated

This is a Request For Discussion concerning creating the newsgroup 
news.software.inn. The purpose of this newsgroup is to give the community 
a place to discuss InterNetNews, or INN, the news transport system.  The 
newsgroup news.software.b has been where most the discussion of INN has 
taken place up to this point. As INN becomes installed at more and more 
Internet connected sites, the level of questions, answers, and general 
discussion about it is increasing.  

News.software.b has been, for the most part, where B news and C news 
discussions have taken place while news.software.nntp as been used for 
NNTP software related discussions.  INN is a complete Usenet system.  
It provides for both NNTP transport and UUCP support integrated into a 
single package.  As such, the discussions should to be focused in a single 
group instead of having to be constantly split between the two existing 
groups.  The creation of news.software.inn also benefits n.s.b and n.s.nntp
in that those groups continue to serve the same areas of interest they did
prior to INN's release.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.announce
From: warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:32:10 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <22sZqB1w165w@c-cat.UUCP> david@c-cat.UUCP (dave) writes:

-->  Anyone know where I can get a current list of existing usenet groups ?

  FTP to pit-manager.mit.edu (anonymous, etc).  In /pub/usenet/news.lists
you'll see the following files:

	Alternative_Newsgroup_Hierarchies,_Part_I
	Alternative_Newsgroup_Hierarchies,_Part_II
	List_of_Active_Newsgroups,_Part_I
	List_of_Active_Newsgroups,_Part_II

  Lots of other good lists in there as well as those above.  That isn't
everything that has traffic in USENET, but it's a good start.

-- 
p'ch'zarni'chiwkov:  the nasty little sound of a sword being unsheathed right
behind one at just the point when one thought one had disposed of one's enemies.
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: InterNetNews
Followup-To: news.software.b,news.software.nntp
Organization: INN assistance
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:22:36 GMT

In <1992Sep11.041805.25511@cs.rose-hulman.edu> holschdm@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David M. Holscher) writes:
>ctlinnda12777: Operation not supported on socket
>When I try to simply run innd it (or whatever incarnation of itself that it  
>spawns dies).
Are you using gcc without having run fixincludes?

Run innd under the debugger with the -d flag and figure out where it
exits.  If innd is going to fatal exit, it first syslogs a message;
find out where you have those logs going to.

Appendix IV of the install manual says use news.sysadmin for general
problems; I will fix the wording to (more correctly) point you to
news.software.b&news.software.nntp for compilation problems.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: jad@nsa.hp.com (John Dilley)
Subject: Checking sys files of my feeds
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:57:46 GMT
Organization: Networked Systems Architecture


	What is the proper way to create a sendsys control message so I
can check the configuration of my feed systems?  Can I direct a sendsys
message?  I posted one (to group control) with "Distribution: local" and
it correctly sent me *my* sys file.  Is it just a matter of replacing
"local" with "usa" or something?  Thanks,

                         --       jad       --
From: ianr@mullian.ee.Mu.OZ.AU (Ian Rowlands)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Checking sys files of my feeds
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:37:13 GMT
Organization: Networked Systems Architecture
To: jad@nsa.hp.com

In article <JAD.92Sep13215746@pimlico.nsa.hp.com> you write:
>
>	What is the proper way to create a sendsys control message so I
>can check the configuration of my feed systems?  Can I direct a sendsys
>message?  I posted one (to group control) with "Distribution: local" and
>it correctly sent me *my* sys file.  Is it just a matter of replacing
>"local" with "usa" or something?  Thanks,

	How many feed sites do you have? Do you have any groups that are
restricted to you and your feed sites? If so, make your distribution anything
you like but post it to "group.name.ctl" (add a .ctl to the end of the group).
If you don't have too many feed sites post the control message individually
to each to.site group. BTW, you will get your own sys file back but you 
should get back the other ones you require.

				Ian


-- 
Ian Rowlands, former student in  | Uni  : ianr@ee.mu.oz.au 
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, | Home : ianr@gpark.apana.org.au
 (including Computer Science)    | 
University of Melbourne          |  [This space for rent] 
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: holschdm@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (David M. Holscher)
Subject: InterNetNews
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:18:05 GMT



This may seem like a rather vague question, but I am trying to install Rich  
$alz's InterNetNews news server on a Sun 3/60 running operating system version  
4.0.3 and I can not get innd to run. I am getting very few error messages and  
the only indication that I can find of an error is in news/innd/ctlinnda12777
which states
ctlinnda12777: Operation not supported on socket
 
When I try to simply run innd it (or whatever incarnation of itself that it  
spawns dies).

Help?

--
//
//David Holscher                      Phone: 812-877-8726              
//Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology holschdm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu 
#if NEWS_POST 
#include <disclaimer.h>
#endif
From: jerry@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jerry Aguirre)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Checking sys files of my feeds
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:12:28 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <JAD.92Sep13215746@pimlico.nsa.hp.com> jad@nsa.hp.com (John Dilley) writes:
>	What is the proper way to create a sendsys control message so I
>can check the configuration of my feed systems?  Can I direct a sendsys
>message?  I posted one (to group control) with "Distribution: local" and
>it correctly sent me *my* sys file.  Is it just a matter of replacing
>"local" with "usa" or something?  Thanks,

The correct proceedure is to post it to the newsgroup "to.neighbor", where
"neighbor" is the news name of your neighbor.  In your sys file you feed
"to.neighbor" to each of your neighbors.  For example:

	sitea:comp,rec,...,to.sitea:flags...
	siteb:comp,sci,...,to.siteb:flags...

Once apon a time it was possible to do this using a distribution of
"to.neighbor" but that seems to be frowned apon.  You probably need to
create a "to.nighbor" newsgroup locally.

All this should cause the sendsys article to passed from your site only
to the one specific neighbor you want to query.  But be aware that do
to a rising trend to using "all" in sys files your nighbor site might
pass on your article to all her neighbors.  I disaprove of using all
but if done it should have something like:

	sitez:all,!local,!to,to.sitez
From: david@c-cat.UUCP (dave)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Question
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:35:36 GMT
Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers


Anyone know where I can get a current list of existing usenet groups ?


                                                       -David

China Cat System     
(301)604-5976 8N1
david@sandr.com 
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: holschdm@rosalind (David M. Holscher)
Subject: InterNetNews
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:53:25 GMT


Thanks to everyone for helping with my last problem.

>ctlinnda12777: Operation not supported on socket
>When I try to simply run innd it (or whatever incarnation of itself that  
it  
>spawns dies).

Now - Another vague question. I have innd running and accepting  
connections to post and read news, but my newsfeeds are not working. I am  
attempting to change a news system from C News to INN and I am testing INN  
by feeding local articles from the host running C News to the host running  
INN. The INN host is also feeding back any articles posted to it. The  
problem is that these feeds aren't working at all - no news is transferred  
when nntpsend is called by cron on either end. I have editted the  
appropriate files on both machines, but apparently not correctly. I'm not  
getting any helpful errors that I can locate.

Please help if you can.

Thanks in advance,

David Holscher
holschdm@cs.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.software.b,news.software.nntp