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From: jimmosk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jim J Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Peter Greenaway Festival in Philadelphia
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:09:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Here are the details of Temple Cinemathetique's 'Early Films of PG' series
(I apologize for mistakenly thinking they were all going to be in December.
Suppose this way we're always left wanting more....:-)

December 14-19  1992
   Vertical Features Remake (1978)
   A Walk Through H (1978)                ["Two Acclaimed Short Features"]

Feb 3-6,8,9  1993
   The Falls (1980)            ["His Dazzling First Feature Film"]

April 14-17,19,20  1993     
   Windows (1974)
   H is for House (1976)
   Dear Phone (1976)               ["His Brilliant Experimental Shorts"]
   Water Wrackets (1978)
   Intervals (1973)


The December shows, at least, will be at 7:30PM Mon-Thurs, and
                                 7:00 & 9:15 PM Sat & Sun
Admission $4.50, $3.50 for students, Temple alumni, and seniors.

Temple Cinemathetique is at 1619 Walnut St in center city Philadelphia,
on the 5th floor.  (215) 787-1529


Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Temple Cinemathetique, and accept no
responsibility (nor force any on them) for mistakes in this posting. So There.


-Jim Moskowitz


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From: wbg@mtek.com (W. Brewster Gillett)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Reply-To: brew@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:40:05 GMT

donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

>>Well, the cinematographer and production designers sure did their jobs for

>Why do some people find plague carriers <which is essentially what vampires
>are, IMHO> irresistably attractive and sexy? Couldn't Coppola find a 
>more interesting subtext? Hasn't this been beaten to death already?

>					--Judex--

It's always seemed obvious to me (even though book & film reviewers rarely
acknowledge it for some reason) that the chief attraction of the whole
vampire mythos is the immortality, or long-life, element. Everything else
including the sexual irresistibilty is secondary, IMO.

Production designers??! My six companions at our screening were all in
accord that the sets were some of the cheesiest ever, particularly for a
Coppola offering. The toy trains and hokey painted backgrounds were almost
embarrassing. Hopkins' performance did stand out, and WR was exceptionally
decorative as always; the morphing was pretty decent, and the light levels
appropriate for the mood. Beyond that .... Yawn!

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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: Meet The Feebles!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:13:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.183855.20465@yang.earlham.edu> uril@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>From: uril@yang.earlham.edu
>Subject: Meet The Feebles!
>Date: 11 Nov 92 23:38:55 GMT
>I don't normally just post little messages about movies I have seen, but I 
>am afraid I must speak out for MEET THE FEEBLES!  I have never seen 
>anything like it!  It's literally the Muppet Movie with sex, violence and 
>a vietnam flashback!  WATCH THIS MOVIE!!!!

AGREE ! :-D

What else could you expect from the makers of Bad Taste and
Brain Dead ??? All three movies are *great* ...

>
>Uri J. Lessing |  Earlham College |  Richmond, Indiana
>


_________________________________________________________________________
| Jorn Halonen              | "dinga ding dang my danga long ling long" |
| jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no  |                               - Ministry  |
From: uril@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:13:57 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <Yf213PK00Uh_85K48x@andrew.cmu.edu>, dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Read) writes:
> "JUDEX" says:
> 
> In his HK films Woo has usually worked with first-rate ACTORS and not
> action-film pieces of meat.  Chow Yun Fat is not the HK version of Van
> Damme, but of Cary Grant.  Leslie Cheung, Sally Yeh, Ti Lung, Cherie
> Chung and Jackie Cheung are all top notch actors.  (Look at the trilogy
> of fine performances that form the center of BULLET IN THE HEAD -- who
> would remember it if Dolph Lundgren, Van Damme and Steven Seagal had
> played the three friends).  So even when the screen is exploding with
> bullets the people holding the guns are believably motivated human
> beings.

I am actually really hopeful about John Woo's American effort.  You must 
remember that when Chow Yun Fat was used by Woo in A Better Tommorow, his 
reputation was not the greatest in the world as an actor.  However, 
because of Woo's fabulous direction, he pulled a great performance out of 
Chow Yun Fat.  Jean Claude Van Damme has the potential of bringing out a 
strong performance.  He is not a cold person.  If you ever see interviews 
with Van Damm he is warm, joking, laughing, serious and fun to watch.  
However, the scripts and direction Van Damme has recieved have not allowed 
him to work off of any of those qualities.  John Woo will.  I am looking 
forward to seeing Hard Target, and I will bet we will see Van Damme cry in 
this movie.
Movies make good actors.  Think about Bruce Willis in Blind Date.  Now 
picture him in Die Hard.  Just a minor change in performance quality, 
wouldn't you think. 
But we will see what happens.
-- 

Uri J. Lessing |  Earlham College |  Richmond, Indiana
From: cm@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Charles Meo)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Philadephia Experiment
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:59:58 GMT
Organization: Solbourne Computer Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:

>According to the story (not the movie, quite), the ship appeared in
>her home port, then dissappeared again. When it reappeared, the crew was taken
>off. There were supposed to be some lingering side effects. Apparently, some
[]
>This story was covered in some detail by Argosy magazine back in the 60s,
>along with other stories of the Bermuda Triangle and other curiosities. It 

I have always been quite curious about this tale. Is there any basis for it
whatsoever in fact, or just another urban legend? Anybody got a concrete,
available reference on the subject?

On the subject of lots of mothballed ships, I recall seeing in a doco in my
very early youth a picture of some harbour on the US West Coast where about
half of the WW2 USN is laid up (I think this is where Iowa and New Jersey
were parked until reactivated). Anyone know where it is? Is this where
one of the Dirty Harry films was shot--you know, the one with David Soul
which ends with a shootout in and around what appear to be hulked CVLs?

Chuck
-- 
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Solbourne Computer Australia
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'SYS5R4: I am Your Density'
Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:06:48 -0500 
From: Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark filmography?
	<farant.27oc@terapin.com>

Faran Thomason states:
--On the Chinese Ghost Story films, Swordsman and The Raid it's debatable
--whether he fully directed these. HE is usally credited as producer and
Ching --Su Tung is credited as director--but Hark is most assosiated
with these films)

I don't think this is debatable at all .  Clearly, Tsui Hark has had an
influence on Ching Siu Tung, but Tsui's own films are very different
from Ching's.  I like Tsui's films best (PEKING OPERA BLUES may be my
favorite HK film), but SWORDSMAN II really brought me around to Ching's
camp.  Of course, the presence of the divine Brigitte Lin in both films
helps a lot (BTW, can anyone give me a list of her films?).

Ching also did the martial-arts direction for PEKING OPERA BLUES.

Are you sure that Ching directed THE RAID?   When they showed it at the
Toronto film festival they credited it to Tsui Hark.  (Although they
also credited CHINESE GHOST STORY III to him, but the film said it was
by Ching).  I am concerned because this film had a "Tsui Hark" plot,
style and approach -- indeed, in all three respects it reminded me a lot
of PEKING OPERA BLUES.

I recently saw DRAGON INN, a remake of a King Hu film produced by Tsui
Hark and "presented" by Ching Siu Tung.  However, this was directed by
Raymond Lee (if memory serves...).  Very good, especially the
performances (Maggie Cheung, Tony Leung and Brigitte Lin).
Unfortunately, the action scenes were perfunctory and usually
unconvincing. 

daniel
From: joho@pfbs.philips.se (Hans ter Horst)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Sidney Penny
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:24:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment BCFI AB, Sweden

Hej!

I just saw the Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider again. Does anybody know
in what other movies Sidney Penny played (the girl playing Megan)?
I'm sure I saw her in some other movie, but I just don't remember
what is was about or what it was called.

Please help.

/Hans
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From: thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction and Play Misty For Me
Organization: Aston University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:10:59 GMT

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
: 
: If you get a chance, watch these 2 movies back to back, and you'll
: see just how much Fatal Attraction borrows from Play Misty For Me.
: In fact you could almost call it a remake ...

	About the only difference that I spotted that wasn't absolutely trivial
was the fact that the Micheal Douglas character was married, and that Clint
Eastwood's wasn't. That may not sound like a huge difference, but it does put a 
different reflection upon their almost identical behavior.

	All in all I prefered Play Misty For Me, but then that's probably 
because Clint Eastwood can act. :-)

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From: carlj@muppet.bt.co.uk (Carl)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Naked lunch again
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:18:40 GMT
Reply-To: carlj@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: bt

In article 722201300@unix1.tcd.ie, sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>>> I don't suppose anyone could be bothered typing in the script of The
>>> Naked Lunch could they? Especially the two brilliant monologues...
>>> The Duke du Ventre, (aka Ssschlup!!)
>>> and.
>>> The asshole, (Reminds me of a couple of peeps I know)
>
>> A lot of the dialogue comes from Burroughs books, mostly from (surprise, 
>>surprise) "Naked Lunch" itself.
>
>Yeah. Thought it might. I'm going to get NL as soon as I have the
>money. What other books are worth reading? 

Of his? If you like the Naked Lunch start off with Junky and Queer.  Avoid
the books which mention the cut up method on the back until you're read
everything else by him, they're interesting but you have to be a real Bill
junky to want to read them.

>I've heard the book is much better (ie. weirder) than the film. Are all 
>his books like that?

They're not really comparable, as has been said before the film is more
about the writing of the book.  As to his books being weird, even his essays,
they are all fairly strange, he has an odd world view.

Cheers,
C

"Interzone is crawling with pedophiles, citizens hungup on pre-puberty 
 kicks.  I don't dig it.  I say anyone can't wait till thirteen is no
 better than a degenerate." -- W.S.Burroughs.
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From: chun@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (T.C.W. Foo)
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark the auteur
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:20:48 GMT

In article <farant.2au8@terapin.com> farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
    [stuff deleted]
>Sorry to quote all that over but. I pretty much agree with you. His themes are
>very similar throughout all his films where he is credited as director. However
>many of his films vary radicaly in terms of cinematic style. I think his latest
                                                                      ^^^ ^^^^^^
>film The Master is evidence. His usual themes were present but the film looked
 ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^
>crappy and the fight sequences were not that strong and the story line was
>pretty average. Maybe shoting in America made the difference and casting US
>stuntmen. Another film Working Class cinematicly seems different from his other
>stuff. Maybe he was trying for something different.
>
>Has anyone seen Shanghai Blues ? If so what's it about ?

What's it about? I am pretty sure that Tsui Hark's latest films (as director)
are Once Upon a Time in China II & OUTC III (the latter is still in post-
production.) And, he has not been to the US to shoot a film for a couple of
years now. Are you talking about the one starring Jet Li? It was made in 
the past but released this year because his OUTC I was a big hit.

Shanghai Blues (a.k.a. Shanghai zhi ye) is a romantic comedy with principal
cast of Sylvia Chang, Kenny Bee and Sally Yeh. It's about a man who tried to
find a job in Shanghai after WWII and to find a woman he has met before the
war. Some citics in Hongkong say it is Tsui's best film prior to OUTC.

Wallace Foo
From: trthomas@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mr. Poopie Pants)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: different endings for rhps?
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:19:33 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

my roommate swears he's seen a version of rocky horror in which brad and
janet get married in the end. i think he's full of it. i have been into 
rocky horror for many years and i've never heard of anything like that. the
only different ending i've ever heard of and seen is the superheroes ending.
does his claim have any substance?

-mr. poopie pants
From: danny@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Danny Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction and Play Misty For Me
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:36:35 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:


>If you get a chance, watch these 2 movies back to back, and you'll
>see just how much Fatal Attraction borrows from Play Misty For Me.
>In fact you could almost call it a remake ...

Very true - And forgeting my dislike of Glen Close temporarily, I still
think that Clint Eastwood's "Play Misty For Me" is the better film - really
very good.

Danny
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sfarquha@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sean Farquharson)
Subject: Debbie Gison is pregnant...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:56:02 GMT


Does anyome know where I could get a copy of the Banned video
(Staring Winnona Ryder!) for MOJO NICKSON's song DEBBIE GIBSON IS
PREGNANT WITH MY TWO HEADED LOVE CHILD?

Sean me e-mail

Sean "Doc Syracuse" Farquharson
From: microspy@ponton.hanse.de (Manuel Tessloff)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: They live...
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:14:20 MEZ
Distribution: world
Organization: Ponton European Media Art Lab, Hamburg


Anyway... it's a good choice to buy the soundtrack by John Carpenter.
(Then you know that they live...)

Spy

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From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: different endings for rhps?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:23:37 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

trthomas@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mr. Poopie Pants) writes:
>my roommate swears he's seen a version of rocky horror in which brad and
>janet get married in the end. i think he's full of it. i have been into 
>rocky horror for many years and i've never heard of anything like that. the
>only different ending i've ever heard of and seen is the superheroes ending.
>does his claim have any substance?
>
>-mr. poopie pants

Nope.  I've never heard that one before.

They ARE married in "Shock Treatment," but we never see the wedding.


Jann E VanOver
Chauffeur for the First Place Winner of Seattle's 10th Anniversary Rocky
Horror Costume Contest
vanover@atc.boeing.com
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: BladeRunner: the final irony
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:03:41 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh) writes:

> 
> Huh?  I remember it as:
> 
>         "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
>          Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion,
>          C-beams glitter in the dark at the Tannhauser gate.
>          All these moments will be lost... in time...
>          like tears in rain.
> 
>          Time to die."
> 
> I don't see anything in there you would need supra-human powers to
> observe.  Those things to indicate space-bound experience, but I
> assume humans have by then been out in space.

Thanks for the original quote. It struck me that "c-beams  glitter in 
the dark" required supra-human powers, but it is debatable. Of course, 
IF the replicants HAD supra human powers than their perceptions of 
those events [how it looked in infra-red] might well be unique. DO 
replicants have supra-human perceptions?

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Organization: none
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:48:50 GMT

In article <s0t19=b@rpi.edu> kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>Can you say "Dune"?  I knew you could!  :)
>
>Well, the cinematographer and production designers sure did their jobs for
>this film, but it seemed like the editor was on speed, the actors were on
>downers, and the director was asleep.

Can we get an explanation for your comparison of Lynch's flawed but
intersting version of "Dune", with Coppola's extremely obvious riffing
on the Dracula theme?

I can see it now: Coppola's "Dracula" is a huge hit. For the followup, 
he directs "A Love to Survive History, a tale to shock The Mind.
Francis Ford Coppola presents "Kharis And Ananka"", and institutes yet
another cycle of bad horror remakes.

Why do some people find plague carriers <which is essentially what vampires
are, IMHO> irresistably attractive and sexy? Couldn't Coppola find a 
more interesting subtext? Hasn't this been beaten to death already?

I'm very tired of sexually irresisitable vampires. "Jonathon" is a far
more interesting film, as vampire films go.

And this is just my .02. Really!

					--Judex--
From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark filmography?
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:34:21 PST
Organization: BBS

With all this talk about Tsui Hark,Ching Tsu Tung and John Woo and the auter
theory one must remember that in Hong Kong movies have to be made much
differently. There must be overlap in what cameramen, directors,producers,
writers and cineamtographers do. Especially when it relates to Hark. I say this
because the man has been involved in at least 20 films in the past 3 years. I
can't think of any name talent in America that has output anywhere close to
Harks. Even whne Amblin was cranking out films I don't think the amount was
anywhere near that high. I think this debate about who directed what is
grounded in our pre-concieved notions of American cinema.
From: upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Brigitte Lin filmography (Re: Tsui Hark filmography?)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:41:26 -0800
Organization: Raven's Auto Body Repair Shop, Mega-Tokyo.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca

Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Of course, the presence of the divine Brigitte Lin in both films
>helps a lot (BTW, can anyone give me a list of her films?).

Aside form the aforementioned "Peking Opera Blues" and "Swordsman 2",
there's "Zu Warriors of the Mystic Mountain" and "Peach Blossom Land"
(a 1992 Taiwainese production).  She's also in a modern-romance/
period-drama combo film (if the cover is any indication) with Chow Yun
Fat, but the title escapes me now...

Derek


-- 
Derek Lynn Upham                               University of British Columbia
upham@cs.ubc.ca                                   Computer Science Department
=============================================================================
"Ha!  Your Leaping Tiger Kung Fu is no match for my Frightened Piglet Style!"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: Re: GODZILLA VS BIOLLANTE
Keywords: Godzilla Monster Japan Biollante
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:54:20 GMT

In article <1ec777INN1ut@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.202946.2864@news.columbia.edu> dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>>The most terrifying monster of all time is back in his greatest movie ever.
>> ...
>
>Dave, is it going to be in the theatres, or just on video?
>
>		Bob Statsinger
>

The film is going straight to video.

I would have liked to have seen a theatrical run, but I do have to admit
that this is probably a better business decision.

GODZILLA 1985 lasted only two weeks in theatres, but sold well over one 
million copies on home video.




David Milner  Columbia University
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk (J HARTNUP,,,,)
Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction and Play Misty For Me
Reply-To: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:50:31 GMT

Yes I noticed the Fatal Attraction/Play Misty thing.  I wonder if perhaps they
are related?
I assume no-one has missed the direct parallels between Basic Instinct and Jagged
Edge?  I wonder if perhaps the screenwriters are related?

It's all there, all down to the ...

*SPOILERS*\/\/










Esterhaus shock ending.

Ok not a desperately obvious spoiler,  but if you've seen jagged edge, Basic Instinct
will hold no surprises.


John

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
Subject: Highlander The TV show.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:58:44 GMT

People have been talking about the making of Highlander 3.  Now, I
don't know if any of you have heard this, but they are making a
Highlander TV series.  It looks plain nauseating.  Well, the person
talking about why the concept would make a good series was annoying as
hell.
 
I saw Highlander 2.  It made me puke.  I still torture the friend that
dragged us out to go see it.
 
That and Freejack.  "Great" films to torture him with.
 
"You made us go see FREEJACK!"  or just saying "FREEJACK!" is enough
to make him shrivel up and die.

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk (J HARTNUP,,,,)
Subject: Tap vs. Bob
Reply-To: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:12:55 GMT

Ok : This is Spinal Tap vs Bob Roberts.

In my opinion Tap win hands down.
I hoe Bob Roberts wasn't supposed to be a comedy : I damn near cried in the cinema.
Bittersweet and poignant I suppose.

JOhn