From: geider@amigdr.gna.org (Frank Geider)
Subject: Re: English Opening question
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Date: 9 Jan 93 09:43:02 MET
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Yury Peskin (peskin@staff.tc.umn.edu) wrote:

: As one who plays "Maroczy bind" against Sicilian dragon (via 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3
: Nf3), it was simple to choose a new defence to the English opening:
: Rubinstein's favourite 1 c4 c5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 g3 d5 4 cd5 Nd5 5 Bg2 Nc7.

: One game went 6 Nf3 Nc6 7 0-0 e5 8 Ne1 Bd7 9 Nd3 f6 10 b3 Be7 11 Bb2 0-0 12 f4
: ef4 13 Nf4, but this is not to my liking.  Taking inspiration from the game
: Kirillov-Botvinnik, USSR ch. 1931 (8 b3 Be7 9 Bb2 0-0 10 Rc1 f6 11 Ne1 Bf5), I
: prepared 8 ... Bf5!? for our next meeting, only to discover "my" new move had
: already been played in Agdestein-Farago, Wijk aan Zee 1988.  :(
: Here are some questions:
: Does anyone have the complete score of the Agdestein-Farago game?  Informator
: #45 only has to move 17.  What was the fate of 8 ... Bf5?

Please, when it's just analyse in another game, specify the number of the
game, here it's game 49, correct ?
you can see in the same informator page 396, the complet result of WIJK AAN
ZEE 1988, and Agdestein-Farago = 0-1. Agdestein lose at time :
-------------------------------------------------------------
Erffnung      : Englisch
Variante       : Symmetrische Variante
Index          : A 34
Gegner         : Agdestein-Farago
Datum          : Jan1988
Veranstaltung  : Hoogoven-Turnier, Wijk aan Zee
Zuganzahl      : 37
Ausgang        : 0:1
Quelle         : EUROPA-ROCHADE 01/88, S. 35

 1.  c2-c4      Sg8-f6
 2. Sg1-f3       c7-c5
 3. Sb1-c3      Sb8-c6
 4.  g2-g3       d7-d5
 5.  c4xd5      Sf6xd5
 6. Lf1-g2      Sd5-c7
 7.   O-O        e7-e5
 8. Sf3-e1      Lc8-f5
 9.  f2-f4       e5xf4
10.  d2-d3      Lf8-d6
11. Lc1xf4      Ld6xf4
12. Lg2xc6+      b7xc6
13. Tf1xf4      Lf5-g6
14. Dd1-a4      Dd8-d6
15. Tf4-c4        O-O 
16. Se1-g2      Tf8-b8
17. Da4-c2      Sc7-e6
18.  b2-b3      Tb8-b4
19. Dc2-d2      Tb4xc4
20.  b3xc4      Ta8-b8
21. Ta1-c1      Dd6-d4+
22. Kg1-h1      Lg6-f5
23. Sg2-f4       h7-h6
24. Kh1-g2      Tb8-b4
25. Sc3-d1       g7-g5
26. Sf4xe6      Lf5xe6
27. Tc1-c2      Tb4-b1
28. Tc2-b2      Tb1-a1
29. Sd1-f2      Dd4-f6
30.  e2-e3      Le6-g4
31.  h2-h3      Lg4-f3+
32. Kg2-h2       h6-h5
33. Tb2-b8+     Kg8-g7
34. Dd2-b2      Df6xb2
35. Tb8xb2      Ta1-e1
36.  e3-e4      Kg7-f6
37. Tb2-d2      Te1-f1
   (Wei berschritt Zeit)  (white exceed time)

            0:1

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: Can anyone recommend IM John Watson's book "Symmetrical English 1 ... c5"?
: Does it contain helpful information on this variation?

not on the variante 8. ... Bf5, it's just some on variante :
8 ... Be7?!, 8 ... Be6, 8 ... h5!?, 8 ... Bg4!? and naturally main variante
8 ... Bd7.  but on the Rubinstein variation, it's 14 pages in the book. I
think it's a good book on the Symmetrical English... But i'm not a Master ...


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