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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: To all Amigans!!! And NATO !!!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:40:56 GMT

>>To all the people of Finland. We want SANTA CLAUS back before dawn or else 
>>we will get NATO to nuke you off the map.
>	
>	Well, it didn't take long for the germans to take over Norway
>	in WWII. Obviusly things are better now in their army, since
>	they can be so offensive ;)

Talking of WWII :

Denmark was overtaken in a matter of hours !!! That _must_ be some
kind of record ...

But the Swedes was the worst, a bunch of neutral f*cking cowards !!!

>	- Janne (served in Finnish field artillery in 1990 - 1991)

-Jorn (served in Norwegian Infantry in 1991 - 1992 ;)

*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: WB 3.0 on 3000
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:16:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.83512.7410@ms.uky.edu> jgary@ms.uky.edu (James E. Gary) writes:

   I was wondering if anyone knows if WB 3.0 will work on a 3000. I know that
   the AGA chipset is not supported (yet), but are other features of the OS
   tied to the 3000? I apologize if this has been asked and answered, but 
   there is just so much noise here (so I am not helping!). To me, this will
   be the question that determines the 3000 orphan status...

   As I understand it, right now 3.0 is 4000 only, 2.1 is the new OS
for the 3000.  BOTH will be superceded eventually by 3.1.  SO there is
intended to be a migration path for the 3000, just not through 3.0.
Sort of like 2.03 was only available for the 3000, but 2.04 is
available for everything but the 1000.  Now is 2.1 (and 3.1 :-) going
to be sold for the 1000?  That's my question!


					Robert I. Eachus

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From: stud11@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be (Lode Vande Sande)
Distribution: world
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 14:14:59 +01
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Academic Computing Center
Subject: Re: Palettes and stuff
Keywords: A4000 and new graphic-chips

In "Re: Palettes and stuff", Hans Bergengren
(Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se) writes :

>  IG> and the mythical "high-end" Amiga chipset is planned to use VRAMs
>
> Of course. It WILL be high-end, and with a 32-MB/sec blitter as well. Yummy!

Of course it will, but when will we be able to get it ?  Will we need a
A4000 mother-board swap to be able to use it or will it be on a Zorro III
card ?  Is it a good idea to buy an A4000 *NOW* ?  Or should one wait
until the new chips are out ?  Why the hell doesn't Commodore tell us
what their plans are ?

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From: d0per@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Hiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: To all Amigans!!! And NATO !!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:07:58 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN) writes:

>>>To all the people of Finland. We want SANTA CLAUS back before dawn or else 
>>>we will get NATO to nuke you off the map.
>>	
>>	Well, it didn't take long for the germans to take over Norway
>>	in WWII. Obviusly things are better now in their army, since
>>	they can be so offensive ;)

>Talking of WWII :

>Denmark was overtaken in a matter of hours !!! That _must_ be some
>kind of record ...

>But the Swedes was the worst, a bunch of neutral f*cking cowards !!!

I fully agree! It is a dark spot in our history. Another sad part of our
history is when we lost Norway. :-)

>>	- Janne (served in Finnish field artillery in 1990 - 1991)

>-Jorn (served in Norwegian Infantry in 1991 - 1992 ;)

>*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)

- Martin.
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From: eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story)
Subject: Re: Low End AGA Machine
Originator: eas3714@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:17:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.161339.12872@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:
>
>: >there will be an A1200 with -020, AGA, and a harddrive before 
>: 
>: $3000/2 = $1500 ..egad!  Too damn much!.. especially for a '20
>: machine.  C= better not, or the AGA line won't survive PAST christmas.
>
>And why would it be too much? If you're comparing to Falcon, just
>remember that the Falcon with a HD costs $1300-$1400 or so. Also if
>you now think that Falcon has 030, you should remember that it's
>crippled by being on the same bus with graphics - its a bit like
>running A3000 with only chip memory...

I'm not even thinking about the Falcon (a non-factor in my opinion).
I'm thinking about '30 *Macs* and pcs that sell for less than that.  I'm
thinking about friends who went to some other computer because, yes, the
Amiga is too expensive compared to an IBM.. and you don't even have as
large a software base.  The only people who buy at midrange prices such 
as $1500 for lowend Amiga machines either own an Amiga ALREADY (duh), or
are video professionals who DO buy an Amiga for the software.  Anyone
else will be interested in the machine itself, but majorly turned off by
the price tag for the decent looking models, and the looks of the
cheapest model.. the 600... 

>	Compared to PC's the price would be a bit high. Also there
>would be a problem with price differences between the the hypotethical
>020-machine and A600 - Commodore needs something between them.

Si, the 020 at a price tag $500 lower.  The A600, BTW, needs to be
pulled and replaced with an AGA equivalent.. and the AGA specs should be
documented for such a machine, otherwise.. I don't see C= selling many
A600's to anyone except current Amiga owners.  I suppose the A600
compares well to a genesis, tho... we'll see.

                         ---Ezra
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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: HAM-8 only 256,000 colors?
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:45:10 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

david_s@hsr.no (David Andreas Sjoeen) writes:

Well, that's actually 256K colors.  In decimal terms 256K is 256,000, however
in binary terms its 262,144.  It's just terminology.  People think in decimal,
computers think in binary.

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From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 vs. Atari FALCON: Hooray, Lizardshit, FUCK!
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:03:41 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Yeff_Jung


 YJ> I GOT ON A NEW SERVER NOW THAT HAS A SMELLING CHECKER SO I CAN LOOK
 YJ> LIKE I WRITE REAL GOOD.              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hmmm, don't think so...

 YJ> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO ALL YOU GAYS OUT THERE ABOUT THE FALCON.

Gays? What about the rest of us, then?

 YJ> MANY OF YOU SAY THAT THE FALCON IS BAD BECAUSE IT HAS NO SOFTWARE.
 YJ> I DISAGREE.  I THINK THAT IS GOOD. IT FORCES THE USER TO WRITE HIS
 YJ> OWN SOFTWARE, LIKE THE NEXT. EVERYONE THINKS THE NEXT IS GOOD.

Exactly HOW many users can actually program? HOW many potentional users do you
think the Falcon will have, if the user have to write his own software? Not
many at all... "John the User" wants to word process, he wants to do some
telecom, perhaps paint a little. With the prospect of being forced to write
his own software for doing this, John won't certainly buy a Falcon! 

 YJ> SO YOU SEE, USERS WILL KNOW MORE AND BE BETTER.

Better at what? What should users do until a sufficient base of S/W is
available? Roll their thumbs?

 YJ> AND IF THE MULTITOS MAKES SURE THAT HE DOES THE PROGRAMMING RIGHT
 YJ> OR IT DOESN'T WORK THAT IS GOOD.

There's nothing as frustrating as finding out that your favourite piece of S/W
doesn't work on your new machine/version of the OS. You'll see that for
yourself...

 YJ> SO ONLY REAL GOOD PROGRAMMERS WILL USE FALCONS.  THAT IS GOOD.

Programmers will find new ways of breaking the rules on the Falcon...

 YJ> SO UP YOUR BLOODY BUMS, ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY COMMODORE'S
 YJ> HALF ASSED ATTEMPT AT SAVING THEIR TINY ASSES, THE 4000.

Well, the A4000 isn't on par with the Falcon on all accounts, but that is the
case of the Falcon as well, it could have been a lot better as well...

 YJ> I LAUGH AT YOUR UNDERWEAR.

Get real!

 YJ> ATARI FALCONS WILL MAKE HIM BEG ON HIS KNEES AND LICK THE SLICK LEATHER
 YJ> BOOT OF ATARI ONE DAY.

You're insane. If Atari EVER would be any threat to IBM, Big Blue would just
buy up the whole company, and thrash it. Btw: looking at Atari's recent
multi-millon losses for the last year, it looks like they're quite good
themselves to run the whole company bankrupt...

 YJ> AND MARC BARRET IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOW THE TRUTH! COMMODORE IS
 YJ> RUN AS WELL AS GEORGE BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION.

CBM's management leaves a LOT to be desired, that is true. But the computer
only grows stronger... Do you REALLY believe that MultiTOS is something,
compared to AmigaDOS v3.0?  >I DON'T THINK SO< AmigaDOS has had multitasking
since '85, and lots of years to add features and squash bugs. MultiTOS has to
start from the beginning, and with a company on the brink of bankrupcy, don't
hope too much for the future... Ha ha, Ha...


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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 15:03:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep30.055356.23930@gbrmpa.gov.au>
  <1992Sep30.073251.9692@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>

>I used to use a C compiler with my A1000 with only floppies,

Uh, we *all* used to do that. We had to; there was no HD's available.
That was back in the good old days when we used to call it Lettuce "C"
though.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AGA hidden registers - C= is giving me an attitude
Date: 4 Oct 1992 07:35:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Summary: No thanks, Comma. I' Apostrophe. ll go to grad school first.  Period.

In article <1992Oct3.061237.14771@clipper.ingr.com> kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:
>In article <1af6qdINNets@gap.caltech.edu>, andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew) writes:

>> 	I hate to break it to both of you, but the Amiga isn't
>> a giant Commodore 64.  And for people who still doubt that
>> this will restrict graphics applications because of performance
>> loss, I have three letters for you:  SGI.
>> 

>Andre,
>     I discussed SGI with you in E-mail. How many poor slobs are ever
>going to be able to afford an SGI for their private playtoy?
>Answer - NONE. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.

	Yes, we have.  Am I advocating that everuone dump
their Amigas and getting an SGI?  No, SGI does many
things right -- they're an ideal we should shoot for.
Are you trying to say that we shouldn't look to bigger
and better things?  Besides, if you go back and
reread the article, you'll see that I brought up
SGI as an example of sustainable, high-performance
graphics when you have to go through the OS (a Unix
variant, no less).

	Besides, who needs to buy their own SGIs when
you can get nice big grants to buy some for your
own lab? :)

>I am so sick of this B.S. Some hacker out there will crack the AGA
>chipset. It will probably be one of the Euro-demo programmers out

	Good luck.  That must be some talented hacker.
Thousands of man-hours reverse-engineered in one
fell swoop.  No one even here would claim to be
that arrogant.

>there. And I will be the first to congratulate the said person.
>If they publish the ECS chipset specs, why the sudden turnaround?

	Here it is again in small words:  DIG.  Come on,
if you just think for a moment what the consequences
of releasing hardware level specifications are, you
would realize that going DIG in 4.0 would be difficult,
especially with people whining about why such-and-such
a piece of software won't work because the hacker assumed
certain things about the hardware.  Look at the Video
Toaster and the 4000 for an example.

	Why don't you go relax or something?  You're really
taking these articles way too seriously -- do you really
expect anything of what we've said here to sway Commodore
management in the least?  (Hint: no.)

--Andre

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From: u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull)
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:47:28 GMT

peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>In article <u894776.717808655@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
>> Lets face it - some people bought STs merely because lots of software
>> ran better on an ST than an Amiga.  Better - as in faster and more usable.

>You really are a totally clueless git, aren't you.

Please try and keep personal attacks out of news groups.
[Attack what someone says not the person]
From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Dave's Sig/Music Taste
Date: 27 Sep 92 10:45:02 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>-- 
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
> "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>             "You lie so much you believe yourself" -Metallica


Heh.. Looks like daves choice in music has strayed from the B-52's to
Metallica.. and from REM to... ???  

Are we going to see "Enter Sandman" imprinted on the motherboard of the 4000?
;) 

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From: dtiberio@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000: My Two Cents Worth
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:35:21 GMT

In article <=rqz7mm@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.211654.6767@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>|> danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:
>|> : 
>|> : Weeeeeellll... maybe. I've always been a fan of the "get-the-rez-you-can-dither
>|> : -the-colors" mentality. I still render in 16-color HiRes rather than HAM Med-
>|> : Res.
>|> 
>|> Why not in superhires interlaced HAM8?
>
>Because Imagine won't have enough chip RAM to open the THREE SCREENS it uses
>to save the "work-in-progress" animation frames, PLUS its own screen, PLUS
>my workbench, PLUS the other work I'm doing while I wait for this (hours-per-
>frame-long) render!

	If 3 screens is too many, try changing the number of screens to 
somethng less, such as zero.

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Subject: Re: toaster for falcon
From: rynda@scfb.nwc.navy.mil
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:11:24 PST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Naval Air Warfare Center

In article <1992Oct5.4477.30477@dosgate>, "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com> writes:
> -> My roomate, an Atari user feels that the time is long overdue for
> -> New-Tek to cr
> 
>  It took NewTek 4 years to develop the Video Toaster for the Amiga. They
> have stated a number of times that it isn't worth porting over to the
> IBM or Mac Formats and isn't nesassary since they are selling thousands
> of units to IBM and Mac users with an interface. And if they were going
> to spend another 4 years developing a new Video Toaster it would be for
> an IBM or Mac before an Atari Falcon.
>  v
>  Tell that to your Atar hopeless roomate!

Of course they could just come up with another interface to connect it to the
Atari Falcon, but you would have to buy the Amiga with the toaster name plate
to use it.  Neother NewTek nor C= would mind, and C.S.A.A would get endless
milage out ot it :^)

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From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Memory querys
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Anders_Skelander


 AS> I got a reply in my mailbox about another detail, the guy who wrote it
 AS> pointed out that the ST has a slightly higher clock frequency than the
 AS> Amiga. I don't think that makes the ST any worse.

No, but that extra 0.86 MHz (0.91 MHz for PAL Amigas) the Atari can offer is
wasted the moment you start a blit in the Atari...

 AS>  I know it feels good to know that the machine you're using is well
 AS> designed, but just how big is the effective improvement?

On a standard A500, it's about 20%, dunno the exact figure. But the difference
increases if you display more than two bitplanes in high resolution (640
*axxx), or more than four planes in low resolution. This is because the video
chip snatches the chipram bus from the CPU when displaying lots of colours,
but the video chip (or any of the other custom chips) can't slow down the CPU
if the CPU executes instructions in expansion memory (AKA fast RAM), this
gives a little edge in performance, the CPU can f.ex calculate a new vector
line for the blitter while one is being drawn on the screen.

 AS>  Btw, is it easy to install the RAM configuration you mention?

Yup, very easy. Most harddisk controllers for the A500 and A2000 features
memory expansions, and there are also generic memory cards for those who
doesn't want a harddisk (how could that be?:). All acceleration devices also
features their own memory nowdays, and usually this memory can be mapped
outside the normal Amiga memory range, so theoretically you could add several
GigaBytes of memory to your Amiga...

 AS> Is it a good solution if the cost is taken into account? 

Of course! Otherwize it's impossible to expand memory beyond the 2 MB chip RAM
limit.


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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 05:37:25 GMT

In article <u894776.717825905@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (One Way Mail) writes:
> 	Sure it would be good if users didnt have these setups,
> but they do - and all those other machines I mentioned work
> extremely well in the base setup - the amiga does not.

Gee, I developed Browser and Tracers on a near-base Amiga 1000 (I had an extra
256K to bring it up to Amiga 500 level). Worked better than my Atari ST or my
Mac 128. Or, for that matter, the base diskless PC.

Twit.
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From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: My next machine: Amiga or PC Clone? Help me out.
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:31:16 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Pete_Tevonian


 PT> The Dell 66 DX2 system is rated at 29.3MIPS by PowerMeter 1.5. Dunno
 PT> about the 040.

The figures I've heard (and most other people as well, I guess) is that a
25MHz i486 manages 'bout 15 MIPS, and the '040 weighs in at 20 powerful MIPS,
also running at 25 MHz, therefore being about 25% faster than the i486.
NOW: one just can't compare MIPS from different CPU architectures, so it's
much better to run some sort of dhrystone speed tester on each platform you
want to compare.


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From: Aurelius@cup.portal.com (Mark Christian Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: HAM-8 only 256,000 colors?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:20:36 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1a8f4iINNpdt@agate.berkeley.edu>

 ... saying that HAM8 can display 256k colors is more correct. In 
"computer terms"                     ^ = 1024 (2^10)

 Also, 16.8 is really 2^10 * 2^10 * 16 = 16777216 colors (16Meg).
HAM8 is capable of this, if there are that many pixels being
displayed. This would require a screen of, say, 4096x4096 pixels.
However, HAM8's pallette is still that large, with the proper
choices made for the 64 base registers.

			Regards, Aurelius@cup.portal.com