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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:53:29 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: SCC Opium War (Re: Patriotism ..)

     Mr. Tuya wrote:
>         kills a hero.  When used by Shannon Yeh, it created ugly
>         chinese handwritings which I have suggested him to stop
>         making but he failed to accept.

                    One has to admit that his
                     handwriting is unique on scc.
                    Zi4 Cheng2 Yi4 Jia1.

                    I never realized what he said,
                    but studied a lot his trees and grasses.
                    Sort of funny.
                    James said some like Ku1 Teng2 Lao3 Shu4
                    Hun1 Ya1, Gu3 Dao4 Xi1 Feng1 Shou4 Ma3.
                    His drawing carried exactly same thing.
                    I wish to see more his masterpieces on
                    scc free.

                    X Xu
From: yan@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Yongfei Yan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Anniversary for the Halloween Tragedy in University of Iowa
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:53:14 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

In article <1992Nov7.160143.16361@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
>>In article <BxBKIG.8rH@acsu.buffalo.edu> ziniuwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ziniu Wei) writes:
>>
>>I just read the current Chinese Magazine (CND-CM) cm9210z.  There is only one
>>long article about the bloody Halloween last year at University of Iowa.  It is
>>a very worthy article.
>>
>>It was the first time I know so many details about the event.  If you havn't
>>seen it yet, you'd better get the CND-CM to read it.
>>
>
>
>	I would recommend that the article be translated into English and 
>a copy be sent to each international student advisor at various universities.
>
	I strongly support this recommendation. We got to do someting to
	restore our image. We are not inner-fighters, as implied by the
	english media a year ago, who tend to be terrorists! We got to tell
	righteous people that some of our Chinese students ARE treated
	unfairly.

	Yongfei Yan

>
>JLI
>================================================================================
>      	 	       ******* RULES OF LIFE ******* 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>	     RULE NO. 1:  YOUR BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
>	     RULE NO. 2:  IF YOUR BOSS IS WRONG, GO TO RULE NO. 1.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>        JLI@MINES.UTAH.EDU (Jianliang Li)    PENN STATE '90  UTAH '2000
>================================================================================
>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Wonder!!
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:52:38 GMT

In article <83051@ut-emx.uucp> viczhu@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (yi zhu) writes:
>
>    I wonder why so many bloodcarders don`t feel ashame to utter here?              Should they feel proud to receive the cards?
>    I feel ashame to be a chinese here.

  If the ashamed (who in fact feel so) would still utter here, why others not?

-ping
From: PXW10@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Dan Quayle & Editor-in Chief of People's Daily
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:52:58 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

>> Wow, Dan, the PotatoE Man = President?  This equation sure looks funny!

 You think it is funny that Dan be the president of USA. How about someone
 who pronounces Melbourne (a city in Austrilia) as He (black)-er-ben being
 the chief editor of People's Daily?

 Peter
From: hli@aecom.yu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Beginner's Question
Summary: I hear this group many times but never seen any real
Keywords: anyone here?
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:09:21 GMT
Reply-To: hli@aecom.yu.edu
Followup-To: general question from beginner
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

Hi, Comrades:

I read from CND and its editor's many times this group. Unfortunately, I never
know how to access you guys. Sorry, I'm just a beginner to explore the Mac.  

I have a general interest in this group. I wonder who's the organisor of this
group? Could any one send me a email to guide me on searching the old issues
posted here? and especially the important ones.

Thanks.   Meet you later.

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ac32d54@laplace.eng.wayne.edu
Subject: Repost: Don't respond to Yeh!
Organization: WSU
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:01:30 GMT



	Every time you respond to Yeh's posting, you give the attention
this freak desperately wanted.

	If you see an article from him/her,
	a) Hit the "n" key, save yourself from being irritated. or,
	b) Don't respond or follow-up.

	Just imagine someone gave a party but nobody showed up...

XYZ

Disclaimer: I believe he/she has the right to express his/her opinion, 
	    sane or insane.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Subject: Re: [PG-13] Halloween Tragedy: Gunman Sounds of Grievances in U. of Iowa
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:08:31 GMT

>Enclosed is the English Version (An except ?) by the author of the Chinese 
                                     ^^^^^^

Oops!  I should have said "It is excerpted from New York Asian News,
Issue January, 1992."

>article on the November 1991 Iowa Killing, which draws hot discussion on SCC.

>A SCCer sent it to me for posting and SCC discussion, please no flame,
>as the subject indicated: it's rated PG-13 (Parent Guidance required
>for those under 13 :-)

>(The author's address & phone # as published in Hua Xia Wen Zhai:
> Yujian Liu, 132 Elton Street, 1st Floor, Brooklyn, NY 11208, U.S.A.
> 718-348-9299)
>
>------------------ Beginning of The Forwarding --------------------------

... ...

>------------------------- The End of Forwarding --------------------------

Bo Xiong in Chicago
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
Subject: Re: Extreme naivety and egocentricism among us
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:36:55 GMT

In article <BxKwrJ.1Ey@inews.Intel.COM> awu@mipos3.intel.com (Allen Wu) writes:
>I don't think a person chews food with mouth open can be considered a morally
>bad thing.  With different cultural backgrounds people have different habits.
>What make me feel angry is the disrespect for public order and 
>inconsideration displayed by many Chinese.  The fact is that even a lot 
>educated Chinese tend to display same kind of inconsiderate behavior.  
>
>Let give you some examples:
>
>Chinese New, a serve dinner was prepared for Chinese students, instead of 
>orderly lines to get food, people fights like rushing to a bus.  There are 
>mostly Ph.Dcandidates or masters students or visiting scholars.  Though 
>majority of people are not like that, but quite a few people just took the 
>who 2 by 1 feet large tray to themselves. 

These guys are like that because they know nobody would stand up to face
them. After all, I guess you just have to live with that if they are your
acquaitances.(Now we are tracing back to proper educations back in China)

>
>On a public tennis court, a lot of Chinese (mostly from Taiwan) are playing 
>tennis in the court.  The sign says each courts has a one hour limit, which 
>is set by a clock.  The Chinese will very often come out to reset the clock 
>despite the fact others are waiting.  The attitude is that as long as I get 
>the most, who cares about others.  Guess coming to the US nullified the 
>good habits learn in Taiwan, (if they ever did learn).  
>

Might also because the people waiting are Chinese as well. If it were me,
I would go to ask them for a definite answer and wait till the time comes. 
They might deserve a knock on the head and asked "anybody home??" if they
hog the court. Remember the commercial where a girl smashed a fat guy's face
(visual effects, not real)?

Fan
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 12:42:13 EST
From: Tao Yao <TAYAO@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Green Woods (was Re: Translation of Jiang1 Hu2)
Distribution: na

Is that read as Luu4 Lin2 or Lu4 Lin2? I remember we are taught it should read
as Lu4, same as *land* or *road* instead of Luu4,*Green*. So how comes the *Gre
en woods*?
From: eleea4e@rosie.uh.edu (Ting, Yubo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Word Processor Seeked
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:49:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.10NOV199220492676
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <3789@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang) writes...
I am wondering  where I can get  some good chinese word processor
package working on DEC  Stations.

Any info and help will be appreciated.


Y. Ting.   eleea4e@jetson.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
Subject: Re: Ozone Man's Beauty (is: Sunburn)
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:00:44 GMT

In article <1dsht0INNso3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jwh3@po.CWRU.Edu (Junwei W. Hou) writes:
>
>
>     An Ozone Man, on the earth, looking up to the blue sky,
>wondering the hole over North Pole, thinks both the future and the
>present.  
>
>                              Junwei
>     

Has anyone gotten sunburn in US or in Canada? I noticed that although
Canada's altitude is much higher than that of southern China, the sun
feels much hotter and brighter in the summer and in a typical summer day 
it takes just 20 minutes for a white people to get sunburn. I don't know the
data on Asian people. However, a group of friends went camping in northern
Ontario this summer and quite a few got burnt badly. I was told by one
that he had blisters all over his face and neck, surely a lesson for him
to know that Asians do not get sunburn is not true.(a lesson for me as well)

It might be due to the fact that the air quality here is much higher. Fewer
scatterer in the air let more UV ray pass through.

Any better theories?

Fan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Subject: Re: Shannon Yeh: homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual or rapist? Re: Fuck 
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:41:07 GMT

In article <Bx5ABt.Ixt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>
>Reading the first sentence, my impression is that Shannon Yeh
>is homosexual. Then next sentence, ah, he is bisexual. Well
>not really look at  the ratio of the male and female in the first
>four sentences, he seems still a heterosexual with occasional
>homosexual behavior. The fifth one is terrible. If Yong Duan's
>grandmother is still alive, I bet Shannon is a rapist. Else
>it is even worse, he must have raped a dead woman.

 You are the dirtiest man on the network! Shut up!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Re: Histry Of Famous Generals
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:48:01 GMT

In article <1dfhmuINNs8m@endeavor.ksu.ksu.edu> wwxiong@endeavor.ksu.ksu.edu (Weize Wade Xiong) writes:
>
>I would like to know whom do you think are the top 5  generals
>in the 5000-year of Chinese histry.
>

It is very hard to say in general who are the best generals in Chinese
histories.  It seems to me that the ones you selected are the ones you
admire.  I would like you to indicate more specific standards on how
to evaluate them.  You can choose to evaluate them based on how many
people they killed, the more the better, or the less the better.

-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu
From: kzest+@pitt.edu (Ke Zeng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: why there is no true vote in China?
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:38:36 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Dept. of Crystallography

In article <BxBoEC.Bon@news.orst.edu> wenz@ucs.orst.edu (Wen Zongyao) writes:
>

	First of all, what do you mean by true vote? Voters vote from
thier bottom of hearts or simply non-biased vote? 

>For over two thousand yeas, government and people have been on
>two opposite side in China.  Few people in China feel government
>is part of their own property.  In 1949, some people started
>feeling they were the real owner of the country.  But finally, they 
>found out, they were fooled by some 'great' leaders.  Consequently,
>people don't trust government anymore, and the government spend
>a lot of time on keeping their power over people.
>
>If voters don't trust the government, how are they going to vote?
>Everything people hear and see could be a fake made by the government.
>That is why even when government wants to get a true vote, no one
>will vote.  
>
	Voting system is meaningful only in the democratic enviroment
not in the sense if the voters trust the gov't or not. That is, to vote,
there must be two (or more) oppositions in compaign. In a monoply system
voting usually does not make sense though people may still have thier
constitutional right to vote. The so called true vote is very confusing.
I think as long as there is no cheating, the vote is true since the
voter is excercising his/her right whether or not the voter's atitute
towards the candidte is serious. That American people vote doesn't mean
how much they trust thier gov't. I remenber Li Shuxian ever compaigned
for the district candidate for the People'Congress in Beijing and she
got overwhellming votes since she stood up differently from CCP's
propaganda. This kind of vote is meaningful because it went through
compaign. Besides, voters need to be tald, i.e. they need biased not by
only one side but two sides in compaign.
-- 
K. Zeng. @pittvms.bitnet    |  "Nothing is always right, even neither this
or    @unix.cis.pitt.edu    |   saying."
       @vms.cis.pitt.edu    |			--Anonymous
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: Congratulations, Bill.
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:32:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.125436.3430@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> 88p8337@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>
>  Bill Clinton is elected. However, he need to wait for another two
>months before he can take the job. Many things could happen during
>this two months time. If, say, Mr Clinton unfortunately die in an 
>accidence (God bless Bill) during this period, who would be the next
>US president ?
>

Don't you think your question is so naive ? It will be the vice president
to be the new president, so it's Al Gore, not a bad choice.

Yi-Chieh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: Election (Chinese, Are you jealous?)
Organization: Penn State, Department of Physics
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:01:22 GMT

In article <lfm2ssINNk9r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>Under CCP ruling in current China, people's republic is a CCP kingdom. 
>People have no right to vote out a bad guy like Deng, Li and Yang.

	"People" still can, at least in principle.  It is just that 
the voting system in China has made it practically almost impossible.
But it did happen.  For example, Deng Liqun and a few other very high
level officials had suffered humiliating election losses.


	 Eddie
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From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Recent tagalog songs?
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:22:09 GMT

In article <BxFDMv.Lz3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Angelo J. Paguia) wrote:
> 
> On the topic of tagalog songs, I was in a Cantonese restaurant in
> Chicago once that was playing Chinese music, or so I thought. Correct
> me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure that the tune was "Anak"
> by Freddie Aguilar (is that the right singer?) with Chinese lyrics,
> singer, and some Chinese musical embellishments. Has anybody ever 
> heard of this kind of musical exporting or trade to, say Hong Kong
> or Japan, or was I just mistaking a similar tune ?
> 
> I seriously doubt that Aguilar copied a Chinese piece because the
> tune didn't sound like regular Chinese music that I had heard before.
> If I'm right, then it's nice to know that the Cantonese are listening
> to our music, too.(It makes sense since most Chinese in RP are from
> Hong Kong and can handle importing and exporting of dry goods as well
> as music. Or is this the result of exporting Filipino singers abroad?)
> 

Yes, you are right.  Freddie Aguilar wrote this song. If I remember right,
I think this song even won some Asian music award.  It has definitely been
translated to many different languages.

Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: CMIS27@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Roda Farrell)
Subject: Noli Me Tangere
Organization: Motorola
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:48:27 CST

Does anyone know if Noli is available in English?  I came to the US when
I was 9 and have lost the ability to read Tagalog other than the basics.
If anyone knows of any other Pilipino classics translated into English,
please post or e-mail.

Maraming salamat po.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: mig@beach.csulb.edu (Mig Gomez)
Subject: Re: Local Brown
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:31:17 GMT

In article <mbernar-091192102733@126.10.4.43> mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.014731.8051@odin.corp.sgi.com>, aimee@wpd.sgi.com
>(Aimee Manosa) wrote:
>> 
>> Wierdest thing!  My cousin's part of the band.  I saw him on the 
>> Filipino TV show yesterday.  I knew he was working with a band, but
>> not as a singer/guitar player.  I just thought he wrote the songs.
>> Hmmm...
>> 
>
>From your internet address, I don't think you're in the Philippines.  So,
>how were you able to watch a Filipino TV show?  Is there such a show in
>your area?
>
>Marcelino Bernardo
>mbernar@erenj.com

Over here in Southern California, Channel 18 (KSCI) shows NewsWatch
from RPN 9 weekdays at 5 and "The Sharon Cuneta Show" on Saturdays
at noon.
The International channel (Cable 51 in long Beach) shows Champoy,
Martin After Dark, Sharon, Pinoy wrestling (yuk!) and Aawitan Kita
on a rotating basis weekdays at 6:30 pm.

mig

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Instructional Computing Consultant                 CSULB Library LL22
CSULB                                              1250 Bellflower Blvd.
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Pala-isipan
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:39:09 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation

In article <92316.114346ROCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ROCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.140100.9718@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
>cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab) says:
>>
>>    Let's get into a little brain boggler.
>>
>>    Isang Mama na may kasamang palay,isang manok,at isang kambing ay tatawid
>> sa ilog. Pwedeng laman ng bangka ay dalawa lang. Papaano niya itatawid ang
>> lahat ng mga ito ? May kasilanan ito dahil kung una niyang itatawid ang
>> kambing, ang manok ay kakainin niya yung palay.
>>
>>    Isip ........
>>
>> Willie
>
>     Tatawid ang Mama kasama ang manok, babalik ang Mama at kukunin ang
>kambing, tapos babalik na naman ang Mama at kukunin ang palay...tapos

Madali lang ito. Lulutuin ng mama ang manok at palay, kakain sila ng kambing tapos
pag busog na, tatawid na sila. Di ba? Busog na sila, may kambing pa ang mama.

Tama ba? :-)

/Danny
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Advise/Info on game systems in Phil.
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:17:39 GMT
Organization: Seattle University


What is the more popular brand of game system (i.e., Nintendo, Sega, etc.)
and more easily available game cartridges back home?  My nephews are
asking for a Sega and I'm not sure if this is truly what they want, meaning
if they would have access to a lot of games for Sega back home.  I'm thinking
that Nintendo would be more popular back home, am I right?


George

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: mig@beach.csulb.edu (Mig Gomez)
Subject: Comdex
Keywords: comdex, las vegas
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:59:10 GMT


Is anyone in this group going to Las Vegas next week for 
Comdex/Fall? 


mig
 


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Mig Gomez                                          mig@beach.csulb.edu
Instructional Computing Consultant                 CSULB Library LL22
CSULB                                              1250 Bellflower Blvd.
From: cz08+@andrew.cmu.edu (Conrad Mark Zapanta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: know any filipino stereotypes?
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:03:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.of0wDMu00WB29L43dI
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

How about the stereotype that all Filipino family gatherings are recorded by
several (sometimes in the hundreds) of cameras?

At my wedding (a Polish-Filipino affair, but that's another story), there were
8 camcorders (creating over 15 hours of raw tape) and at least 30 cameras.  And
that was just the Filipino side....

For the longest time I thought that it was just my family.  Now I think it's
genetic, as I've seen Filipinos who aren't my relatives do it at every family
event involving more than three people.

Anyone else notice this?

Conrad Zapanta
Graduate Assistant
Bioengineering- Artificial Hearts
Penn State University

cmz@ecl.psu.edu
cz08@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino