From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Subject: soc.culture.hongkong FAQ, Part I 
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Summary: This posting contains a list of Frequently Asked Questions (and
	their answers) on the soc.culture.hongkong.  Please read this posting
	before posting to the newsgroup.
Supersedes: <schk1_722408403@jho.com>
Reply-To: john@jho.com
Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 05:00:13 GMT
Expires: 4 Feb 1993 05:00:04 GMT

Archive-name: hongkong-faq/part1
Last-modified: Sun Aug 23 17:42:09 EDT 1992
Version: 2.1


                              O F F I C I A L 

                       FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) 

                                   FOR 

                            SOC.CULTURE.HONGKONG


                         PART I - GENERAL QUESTIONS


If you have any questions regarding addition/deletion/modification
to this FAQ, please contact John Ho at "john@jho.com".  Your comments
will be appreciated.

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TABLE OF CONTENTS:

   0) TOPICS: HISTORY OF soc.culture.hongkong 
   1)     What is soc.culture.hongkong?
   2-9)   (reserved)

  10) TOPICS: GENERAL INFORMATION
  11)     How to access SCHK?
  12)     How do I get the lastest version of this FAQ?
  13)     How do I receive the lastest HK news?
  14)     Are there any other Chinese networks?	
  15)     How do I find a job in HK?
  16)     Can someone recommend a recruiting company in HK for me?
  17)     How do I renew my passport?
  18)     What are the differences between the BNO/BDTC passport? 
  19)     Do I need a passport to visit UK?
  20)     Are there any short wave radio station from HK?
  21)     Is it cheaper to buy a PC in HK? 
! 22)     How do I wire money to Hong Kong from US? 
  23-299) (reserved)

 300) TOPICS: NETWORKING IN HONG KONG
 301) 	 Is Hong Kong University (HKU) / Chinese University (CU) / Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST) on the net?
 302)     Do they have access to SCHK?
 303)     How to send mail to CU?
 304)     How to send mail to HKUST 
 305)     How to send mail to HK Polytechnics?
 306)     How to send mail to HK Baptist College?
 307)     How to send mail to City Polytechnics of HK?
 308)     How to send mail to HKU? 
 309)     What other network connections are there in HK?
 310)     Can I send mail to HK through Fidonet?
 311)     Who else have connection in HK?
 312-349) (reserved)

 350) TOPICS: TRAVELLING, DOING BUSINESS AND RETURNING TO HK
 351)     Where can I find the lowest air fare to HK?
 352)     Courier service, anyone?	
 353)     Which is a good travel book to read? 
 354)     What can I do in HK?
 355)     Where can I go in HK?
 356)     Where can I shop for computers in HK?
 357)     Where can I shop for cameras in HK?
 358)     Where can I find more information before I start the trip?
 359)     Which hotel should I book?
 360)     Are there any other sources?	
 361)     What is HKTDC? 
 362)     Where is the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office?
 363)     Where is the American Chamber of Commerce in HK?
 364-399) (reserved)

 400) TOPICS: CDs/BOOKs/MAGAZINEs/VIDEOs
 401)     Where can I buy the lastest CDs/Books/Magazines?
 402)     How do I subscribe to Chinese newspapaers?
 403)     Is there any mail order place for these items? 
 404)	  Why can't I watch HK video tapes in the US/Canada?	
 405)     What should I do when I receive a PAL tape from HK?
 406)     Are there any free HK magazines?
 407)     How do I subscribe South China Morning Post?
 408-449) (reserved)

 550) TOPICS: GATHERINGS/LOCAL GROUPS
 551)     Anybody out there from XYZ Secondary School?
 552)     How can I start an e-mail alumni association?	
 553)     Are there any local gathering groups?
 554-700) (reserved)

 700) TOPICS: LEGENDS
 701)     Who is Deanna?
 702)     Who is Jan?
 703-999) (reserved)


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0) TOPICS: HISTORY OF soc.culture.hongkong(SCHK)
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1)      What is soc.culture.hongkong?

	In April, 1989, Wilson Ho, then a graduate student from UC Davis
and a small group of Hong Kong (HK) students studying in the United 
States got together and formed an e-mail mailing list called HKNET.  
It did not take long before the number of memebrs (more than 800) 
outgrown the capability of the mail relay server.  Same year,
Fred Ho from University of Waterloo in Waterloo, Canada 
started the newsgroup creation process for soc.culture.hongkong (SCHK) 
The first posting went out on July 28, 1989.

	The original intent was to off-load the more serious 
topics (such as news, announcements, etc.) from HKnet to SCHK, and 
keep the more "light weight" casual conversations in HKnet.  As 
it turned out, it was exactly the opposite.  Today, HKnet carries 
almost exclusively news from HK and China, and announcement from 
Chinese organizations.  SCHK, on the other hand, has evolved to 
become an on-line meeting place and discussion forum for netters 
with HK background or interests to make friends and to receive 
lastest news from HK.  There are estimated 35,000 netters in 
SCHK worldwide. 

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10) TOPICS: GENERAL INFORMATION
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11) 	How to access SCHK?

	The fact that you are reading this FAQ implies you get
some form of connections to SCHK, either your friend has access 
or you just accidentally step into this wonderland.  The best way 
for you to access SCHK is through USENET, you can ask your friend 
or your system administrators and find out if your local site has 
news connection.  

	The other way is to subscribe SCHK through e-mail.  
You require an e-mail account which has connections to the Internet 
You can send mail to "postmaster@ahkcus.org" and ask to be added 
to the SCHK mailing list.  To post in SCHK thru email, send your 
article to "soc.culture.hongkong@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu".

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12) 	How do I get the lastest version of this FAQ?

	If you have ftp (File Transport Protocol) access, the latest 
version can be retrieved as /pub/usenet/news.answers/hongkong-faq 
from pit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27], or, try (but please don't 
abuse mail servers, there has been history of mail servers taken down 
because of excessive load)---sending an email message to 
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with "help" and "index" 
(only, because the daemon reads and responds to your 
message) in the body on separate lines for more information.
Other archives are---cnam.cnam.fr [192.33.159.6] in /pub/FAQ;
ftp.uu.net [137.39.1.9 or 192.48.96.9] in /pub/usenet;
archive.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.5] in the anonymous ftp directory
NEWS.ANSWERS.  For details read "Introduction to news.answers" on
news.answers.

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13) 	How do I receive the lastest Hong Kong (HK) news?

	K.W. Chan (bat!kwchan1@csd.hku.hk) from Hong Kong University 
post news clipping from South China Morning Post religiously. :)
The Alliance of Hong Kong Chinese in the US (AHKCUS) also maintains
a mailing list called "hknews@ahkcus.org" which are mainly articles 
from major news agents with news clipping primiarily focused in HK, 
China and Taiwan.  You can add your name to the AHKCUS Hong Kong News 
mailing list by contacting "postmaster@ahkcus.org".  

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14)     Are there any other Chinese networks?	

	The Alliance of Hong Kong Chinese in the US (AHKCUS) maintains 
a mailing list for its members and people who are insterested in the
pro-democracy movement in China.  To subscribe please contact 
"request@ahkcus.org" [192.55.187.25].

	Hong Kong Net (HKNet) can be reached by sending mail to
"cst@hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu" or "so@cs.wisc.edu".  Please mail all
posting to HKnet to "hknet@cs.wisc.edu".

	South East Asia Online is a free mailing list with interests 
in Southeastern Asia.  It covers areas from Burma/Myanmar to HK, Malaysia,
Singapore, Indonesia and Australia.  To subscribe, mail to 
"listserv@msu.bitnet" or "listserv@msu.edu" with a one line message 
"SUB SEASIA-L <your real-name>".  The service is made possible with 
the support of the Center for Asian Studies at Michigan State.

	China News Digest is a regular posting of lastest China news in
an on-line magazine format. To subscribe or get info,  mail to: 
"CND-INFO@DJOHN-SUN.KENT.EDU" or if you want to contribute, you can
send your mail to: "CND-EDITOR@DJOHN-SUN.KENT.EDU"

	China Study Forum can be reached at "csf-adm@postgres.berkeley.edu"

	China Study Forum - Books review can be reached at 
"csf-books@postgres.berkeley.edu".

	HXWZ is a weekly electronic magazine in the Chinese language
published by China News Digest (CND).  To subscribe to CND Chinese Magazine: 
Send mail to  "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" with a one line message,
"sub CCMAN-L <full name>".  To quit from CND Chinese Magazine:
Send mail to "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" with a one line message "unsub CCMAN-L".
For more information, please contact "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" and please 
include a one line message, "GET CMHELP INDEX".  The BITNET node name 
UGA.BITNET is equivalent to internet "uga.uga.edu".

	Don't forget to check out soc.culture.china, soc.culture.taiwan,
soc.culture.asean, talk.politics.china, talk.politics.taiwan and
alt.chinese.text.
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15) 	How do I find a job in HK?

	There is a brochure "Returning To Hong Kong" published 
by the American Chamber of Commerce in HK.  It is targeted towards
students studying in the US who are planning to return to HK after
graduation.  They also publish books like "Hong Kong Employment 
Guide 1991," "Doing Business in Today's HK," "Living in HK," etc. 
The publications are available by sending request to AmCham 
HK center.  Their address is: 

	1030 Swire House Central, HK.  

	Ph: +852 5260165/+852 5259215/(fax)+852 8101289

	An electronic copy can be anonymously ftp from ahkcus.org
The file is stored under /hongkong/returning.

	terryk@microsoft.com (Terry Kwan) regularly posts the
list of prime jobs from the Higher Education Employment Service (HEES).
You can also write to HEES and ask them to send a copy to your 
school CSA.  Their address is:

	Higher Education Employment Service
	Labour Dept.
	6/F Harbour Building
	38 Pier Road, Central, HK
	Ph: 523232

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16) 	Can someone recommend a recruiting company in HK for me?

	terryk@microsoft.com (Terry Kwan) provided the following 
information.  SCHK has no connections with these headhuter firms.  
It is listed here for your own reference.  Use it at your own risk:

	Staff Service (HK) Co Ltd.: 
		USA             	1-212-332-8000
		Australia       	022350800
		Hong Kong       	+852 810-9822, fax +852 845-3427.

	Gemini                  	+852 5257283 +852 8106467
		Suite 508, Shell House, 24/28 Queens's Rd, Central, HK

	AJ                      	+852 3673383 +852 3678765
       		Rm1004, Far East Consortium Blg, 204 Nathan Rd, kln, HK

	Asia Progress                   +852 5213151 +852 5371583
       		Rm1642 A, Wire House, 11 Chater Rd, Central, HK

	New City                        +852 5439282 +852 5439861
       		904 Champion Bldg, 289 Des Voeux Rd, HK

	Pak's                           +852 5261065 +852 8452455
       		1710 Lane Crawford House, HK

	Future Light                    +852 8504828 +852 8504418
       		Rm1602, Haleson Blg, 1 Jubilee St, Central, HK

	Willowave                       +852 5411552 +852 5431809
		15/F, Wing's Blg, 110 Queen's Rd, HK

	Amanda                          +852 3110916 +852 7244381
		Suite B, 10/F, Cameron Plaza, 23-25A Cameron Rd, 
		TsimShaTsui, HK

	Nimble                          +852 5416113 +852 5414073
		605 Won Hing Blg, 74-78 Stanley Street, central, HK

	Lindy Williams                  +852 8456777
		702 Double Blg, 22 Stanley St, HK

	Sara Beattie                    +852 5079333 +852 8270426
		3/F Sun Hing Kai Centre, 30 Harbour Rd, HK

	D&R                             +852 7822968 +852 7820292
		Rm1004, Park In Com Centre, 56 Dundas St, HK

	Eternal                         +852 5265601 +852 5252508
		9/F United Chinese Bank Bldg, 31-37 Des Voeux Rd, HK

	Prefect Way                     +852 8155109 +852 8156629
		Rm 904, Kai Tak Comm Blg, 66-77 Stanley St, Central, HK

	WatNet People                   +852 8773686 +852 8452185
		10/F Sin Hua Bank Blg, 2 Wellington St, Central, HK

	Arron & Associate               +852 5261128
	Smart                           +852 5761866 +852 5761822
	Levin                           +852 8542228 +852 8504061
	HK Employment & Secretarial     +852 7219268 +852 3113289
	T&C                             +852 8931168 +852 8916646
	Everbright                      +852 5441863 +852 5449859
	Julie's                         +852 5211166 +852 8452620
	Elton Linda                     +852 5488785 +852 5487797

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17) 	How do I renew my passport?

	In US, please contact the British Counsel in Washingtin, DC
Their voice number is 1-202-986-0205 and the fax number 
is 1-202-797-2929.  Office in other area will no longer handle 
passport renewal.  

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18) 	What are the differences between the BNO/BDTC passport? 

                BN(O)                           BDTC
                ---------------------------------------------
- Retention     BN(O) status can be retained    BDTC status cannot be
  of British    retained for life.              retained after
  nationality                                   30 June 1997.

- Validity      10 years from date of issue     cannot be made valid
                of issue.                       beyond 30 VI 1997.

- Replacement   can be replaced both before     cannot be replaced after
                before and after 30 VI 1997.    30 June 1997.

- Right of      will bear an endorsement with   will be an endorsement
  abode         with reference to the holder's  stating the holder's right
                Hong Kong permanent ID card     of abode in Hong Kong.
                stating his rights of abode
                in HK.

- Special       will bear the following         no such endorsement.
  endorsement   endorsement:
                "In accordance with the United
                Kingdom Immigration Rules the
                holder of this passport does
                not require an entry
                certificate or visa to visit
                the United Kingdom."

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19) 	Do I need a passport to visit UK?

	Neither BDTC nor BNO passport holders require to obtain 
a visa in order to visit the UK for short visits.  However, a visa is
required if they intend to seek employment or follow a course of study.

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20) 	Are there any short wave radio station from HK?

	No. but if you have a shortwave (Duan3Bo1) radio, you 
will hear "the Voice of Free China" (Zi4You2 Zhong1Guo2 zhi1 Sheng1)
broadcasting in Mandarin, Cantonese, English, and Taiwanese
(Min3Nan2Yu3), etc.  In North America try listening around dinner time
on 5950, 9680, 11860 kilohertz; in Europe: 21720, 17750; in Australia:
9765; in Japan: 15345, 7130, 9730, 11745. There are several other
regions/languages it broadcasts to/in. Write: "The Voice of Free
China, P.O.Box 24-38, Taipei, TAIWAN, R.O.C" for a schedule.  (They
don't also tell you the schedule of Zhong1Guang3 Xin1Wen2 Wang3*,
though.  But it uses the same frequencies.)  

[Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM]
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21)   	Is it cheaper to buy a PC in HK? 

	A 486-33 system only need around HK$10000 (include 1.2M
& 1.44 floppy, 120M hard-drive, and HI-Color SVGA with monitor). A 386-40
with the above config only need around HK$8000. It's about 20% cheaper
than that in the beginning of this year. 

[Date: 7/30/92 akwy@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au (Alan Yim)]
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22)     How do I wire money to Hong Kong from US?	

1.  If you intend to go to HK, bring an ATM card from a US bank
    which is on the PLUS ATM network.  Using a Plus ATM card, you
    can withdraw money directly from your US account in HK, at various
    ATMs of the Hongkong Bank which display the Plus symbol.
    Of course, if you are going yourself, you can also consider
    Traveller's Check or even cash if the amount is still reasonable
    to do so.

2.  You can send the recipient a US Dollar personal check, which they
    can deposit with their bank.  However, the check will take about
    1 month to clear.

3.  Go to a branch of a Hong Kong based bank in your area, eg.
    Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corp. or Hang Seng Bank in any
    major metropolitan area with a significant Chinese population,
    and purchase a Bank Draft or Cashier's Check.  Enquire if they can
    issue drafts in HK$ drawn on their account with their HK parent.
    Otherwise, check if they have provisions to clear their checks
    quickly (eg. if deposited with a particular HK bank).

4.  Of course, you can always tell your bank to initiate a wire transfer,
    or get a HK based bank in your area to do it (probably better, since
    they are used to doing it).


Going the other way:

a.  ETC International (similar to 1. above, but subject to transaction fee)
    This is actually quite popular in Canada now.

b.  Bank Draft.  Every bank in HK that issues US$ Bank Draft can draw
    on their accounts in the US, so worst case is 7 days to clear.
    Add the time to deliver the physical draft to the recipient (2 - 7
    days).

c.  Cable/Telex/Wire transfer. Yes they are all different (in speed), and
    subject to service charge.  Hang Seng Bank seems to charge a fixed
    fee for amounts up to some large number, and is probably cheapest.
    Note that the recipient will ALSO be charged a fee, typically
    USD 10 to USD 15, so if you wire $5000, they may only get $4990.
    This is caused by the Fed Wire Transfer between the correspondent bank
    (ie. the bank that, for example, Hang Seng deals with), and the
    receiving bank.

d.  Cash, USD Traveller's Checks are all okay.

Special thanks to Onward Lam (onward@fsg.com) for the answers. 
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23-299)	(reserved)
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300) TOPICS: NETWORKING IN HONG KONG
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301) 	 Is Hong Kong University (HKU) / Chinese University (CU) / Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST) on the net?

	As of Sept, 91, CU has connected to Internet through a 
satellite link to NSFNET to a site in Hawaii.  Since then, all 
mail enroute to HK has been routed through vaxa.csc.cuhk.hk.  
The MX records of all those institutes [listed above] have been 
changed to reflect this.  Therefore, if you want to have minimum 
delay, let your local mailer route your mail.  Or if you insist on
routing it yourself, route it through hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk which
is the internet gateway for ALL machines in hk or vaxa.csc.cuhk.hk.

	As of the latest info from HKU, they are already on the Internet.
CU is now a "fullfeed" USENET site. Users can read and post news, and 
they are planning to distribute news to other institutions.

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302)	Do they have access to SCHK?

	Yes.  But the actual population is unknown.  Someone from CU
said that there are a lot more fun things to do in HK than sitting 
in front of the keyboard talking to a CRT.  :)

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303)	How to send mail to CU?

	You can try:

<username>@vaxa.cucsc.cuhk.hk      [137.189.6.8]/* Computer Service Center */
<username>@vaxb.cucsc.cuhk.hk      [137.189.6.7]/* Computer Service Center */
<username>@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk      [137.189.6.1]/* Computer Service Center */
<username>@pc386a.csc.cuhk.hk      [137.189.6.21]/* COmputer Service Center */
<username>@cuele.cuhk.hk           [137.189.32.1]/* EE Dept */
<username>@eng.ie.cuhk.hk          [137.189.98.200]/* Information Engineering */
<username>@cs.cuhk.hk              [137.189.4.48]/* Computer Science Dept */

	To reach the Computer Science dept, you can use "dept@cs.cuhk.hk".

	If you have problem sending mail to CU, please contact
"postmaster@cucsd.cuhk.hk".

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 304)   How to send mail to Hong Kong Univ. of Science & Technology (HKUST)?

	 You can try:

<username>@usthk.ust.hk                 ! VMS accounts  (Internet)
<username>@usthk.bitnet                 ! VMS accounts  (Bitnet)
<username>@uxmail.ust.hk                ! Unix accounts (Internet)

If you have problem sending mail to HKUST, please contact
"postmaster@usthk.ust.hk" or "postmaster@uxmail.ust.hk".

[ Steven Wong (Postmaster at USTHK)   CCSTEVEN@usthk.ust.hk ]
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305)	 How to send mail to HK Polytechnics?

	You can try: <username>@hkpcc.hkp.hk

	If you have problem sending mail to Hong Kong Polytech, please contact
"postmaster@hkpcc.bitnet".

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306)	 How to send mail to HK Baptist College?

	You can try:

<username>@ctsc.hkbc.hk            [192.133.72.1]*	/* Staff only */
<username>@bc785a.hkbc.hk
<username>@bc750.hkbc.hk
<username>@vaxa.ctsc01.hkbc.hk     [192.133.72.4]	/* telenet */
<username>@vaxa.ctsc01.hkbc.hk     [192.133.72.4]	/* telenet */
<username>@maths.hkbc.hk
<username>@carol.comp01.hkbc.hk				/* Computer Science */
<username>@ada.comp01.hkbc.hk

	Baptist College also gives out guest accounts, for more 
information please contact:

        Mr. Jimmy Tsang
        USS Section
        CTSC
        HK Baptist College
        224 Waterloo Road
        Kowloon

	If you have problem sending mail to Baptist College, please contact
"postmaster@ctsc.hkbc.hk".

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307)	 How to send mail to City Polytechnics of HK?

	You can try:

<username>@cphkvx.bitnet
<username>@cphk.cphk.hk            [144.214.4.1]
<username>@cphkvx.cphk.hk          [144.214.2.1]
<username>@cpccspc.cphk.hk         [144.214.5.254]*

	City Poly have a centralized mailbox for everyone.  To send 
mail a person whose 8 digit userid is 12345678, you MUST do the following:

	In your message. Add these two lines:

	To:      polylink@cphkvx.bitnet
	Subject: 12345678@polylink

	If you have problem sending mail to City Poly, please contact
"postmaster@cphkvx.bitnet".

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308)	 How do I send mail to HKU?

	You can try:

<username>@hkuxb.hku.hk      [147.8.16.15]* 	/* Computer Center */
<username>@hkucc.bitnet
<username>@hkucc.hku.hk
<username>@csd.hku.hk        [147.8.134.1]* 	/* CS Dept. */ 
<username>@hkueee.hku.hk 			/* EE Dept. */

	If you have problem sending mail to HKU, please contact
"postmaster@csd.hku.hk".

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309)	 What other network connections are there in HK?

	You can access Compuserve by calling 824-1121 (INFONET). They
use ASYNC 0-2400 Baud (V22BIS/MNP) setting.  No info about the rates.
For more information, please contact:
 
        Mr. Y.S. Wu
        Public Services Account Manager
        Cable and Wireless HK Ltd
        New Mercury House
        PO Box 597
        22 Fenwich St
        Wanchai

	Also, Hutchison-AT&T provides e-mail service.  For more info, 
please contact:

        Helena White
        Hutchison-AT&T
        Network Services Ltd.
        4/F, China Underwriters Centre
        88 Gloucester Road
        Hong Kong
        8345848

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310)	Can I send mail to HK through Fidonet?

	Theologically users can send e-mails to Internet via any FidoNet 
BBS in HongKong, however, not all SysOps made this area available to their
users and only a few systems has direct connections with the US
Internet/ FidoNet Gateway.  Select Usenet Newsgroups is also available
in FidoNet but SysOps has to pick them up from the Usenet/FidoNet
Gateway in the USA.  Receiving e-mail from Internet to FidoNet in
HongKong is no problem becasue all these traffic will be taken care by
the Zone 6 ZoneGate - a ZoneGate system is a system in FidoNet who taken
care of Inter-Zone e-mails from/to it's own Zone. (Note: Zone 6 is Asia
in FidoNet).

From Samson Luk (gu_jc3@uxmail.ust.hk) 
FidoNet Regional Coordinator of HONGKONG & MACAU 
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311)	Who else have connection in HK?

	There are a few corporations which have network connection in HK.  
The known ones are Digitial Computer, Xerox, Oracle, HP and SGI and IBM.  

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312-349) (reserved)
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350) TOPICS: TRAVELLING, DOING BUSINESS AND RETURNING TO HK
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351)	Where can I find the lowest air fare to HK?

	Try some of the Chinese travel Agency and bring a Chinese friend
with you if you are not Chinese.  You get a better price that way. :) Also,
check into the FAQ for rec.travel and it has a lot of tips on how to save
your precious dollars on travel expense.
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352)	Courier service, anyone?	
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353)	Which is a good travel book to read?

	One netter recommended the "Lonely Planet Guide" for HK.  
ISBN# 0-86442-142-7.  Current edition is printed in May, 1992 and it has
extensive coverage in Hongkong. Macao and Canton.
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354)	What can I do in HK?
	
	Shopping.  Shopping.  Shopping.
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355)	Where can I go in HK?
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356)	Where can I shop for computers in HK?

	Computer Places recommended by readers: 

	(1) Admiralty/Hoi Fu Centre, 2/F;
	(2) Computer Centre, at Mong Kok, a new shopping centre for computers;
	(3) Golden Shopping Centre, at Shum Shui Po;
	(4) Silver Cord Centre, basement 2, at Tsim Sha Tsui.

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357)	Where can I shop for cameras in HK?

Places recommended by readers: 

(1) Broadway - the chain stores that sell basically all the popular
	common items;
(2) Stanley Street in Central - there are a number of stores there,
	unfortunately, I don't have the names with me...(may be 
	the HK readers can help me out with those).


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358)	Where can I find more information before I start the trip?
	
	You can contact the Hong Kong Tourist Association. They 
have offices around the world and if you cannot find one in where 
you live, you can contact their head quarter office in HK.  The address is:

35/F Jardine House
Central
Hong Kong.
(852)-8017111
Telex 74720 HX
Cable Luyu hongkong
Fax (852)-814877

Other offices:

4/F, 125 Pall Mall                      Wiesenau 1
London, SW1Y 5EA                        6000 Frankfurt am Main 1
UK                                      Germany
(071)-930-4775                          (49)-69722841

c/o Sergat Espana S.L.                  Suite 1220, 10940 Wilshire Bvld
Apdo. Correos 30266                     LA, CA 90024
08080 Barcelona                         USA
Spain                                   (310)-208-4582
(93)-280-58-38

347 Bay St, Suite 909                   38 Avenue George V
Toronto, Ontario M5H 2R7                (Entree 53 rue Francois ler 1er)
Canada                                  75008 Paris
(416)-366-2389                          France
                                        (331)-4720-3954
                                        (331)-4723-0965 (fax)

c/o Sergat Italia                       590 Fifth Ave.
Via Monte Dei Cenci 20                  NY, NY 10036-4706
00186 Roma                              USA
Italy                                   (212)-869-5008
(06)-6869112

333 North Michigan Ave.                 4/F, Toho Twin Tower Bldg
Suite 2400                              1-5-2 Yurakucho, Chiyoda-ku
Chicago, IL 60601-3966                  Tokyo 100
USA                                     Japan
(312)-782-3872                          (03)-3503-0731

4/F, HK & Shanghai Bank Bldg            Level 5, 55 Harrington St.
3-6-1, Awaji-machi, 3-chome             The Rocks, Sydney
Chuo-ku, Osaka 541                      NSW 2000
Japan                                   Australia
(06)-229-9240                           (02)-251-2855

13-08 Ocean Bldg                        PO Box 2120
10 Collyer Quay                         Level 1, 5 Averill Ave.
Singapore 0104                          kohimarama, Auckland 5
(65)-532-3668                           New Zealand
                                        (09)-521-3167

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359)	Which hotel should I book?

	Hotels in HK price anywhere from US$25 to $300 per night.  Please
check with your travel agents.  The HK Tourist Association also has brochures 
to hotel accomodations in HK.
 
	Dan Jacobson from AT&T recommends "ChungKing mansions" in Tsim Tsa Tsui.

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360)	Are there any other sources of travel information?	

	There is a good travel guide called "Lonely Planet Guide" for HK.
No ISBN#.  Sorry.  It should be available in all better bookstores. :)

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361)	What is Hong Kong Trade Development Council (HKTDC)? 

Their primary mission for HKTDC is to promote Hong Kong to other countries.  
Below are their addresses:

	Conventional Plaza,
	36-39th Floors, Office Towers           Courvoisier Centre
	1 Harbour Road                          501 Brickell Key Drive
	Wanchai, HK                             Miami, FL 33131
	Voice (852)-584-4333                    (305)-577-0414
	Fax (852)-824-0249

	673 Fifth Ave                           333 N Michigan Avenue
	4/F                                     Suite 2028
	New York, NY 10022                      Chicago, Il 60601
	(212)-838-8688                          (312)-726-4515

	120 World Trade Center                  350 S Figueroa Street
	2050 Stemmons Freeway                   Suite 282
	Dallas, TX 75207                        Los Angeles, CA 90071
	(214)-748-8162                          (213)-622-3194

	c/o HK Economic and Trade Office
	180 Sutter Street, 4/F
	San Francisco, CA 94104
	(415)-677-9038

	London          828-1661        828-9976
	Miami                           372-9142
	Milan           865405          860304
	Paris           474-24150       47427744
	Singapore       2937977         292-7767
	Seoul           782-6115        782-6118
	Stockholm       100677          723163
	Toronto         366-3594        366-1569
	Vancouver       685-3786        699-3784

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362)   	Where is the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office?

	British Embassy, 1233 20th Street       British Consulate General
	N.W. Suite 504                          680 Fifth Avenue, 22nd Floor
	Washington, DC 20036                    New York, NY 10019
	(202)-331-8947                          (212)-265-8888

	British Consulate 			General British High Commission
	180 Sutter Street, 			4/F Consular Section
	San Francisco, CA 94104 		80 Elgin Street
	(415)-397-2215 				Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 5K7

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363)   	Where is the American Chamber of Commerce in HK?

	Chamber of Commerce of US               1030 Swire House
	International Division                  Central, HK
	1615 H Street NW                        (852)-526-0165 or 525-9215
	Washington, DC 20062                    Fax 810-1289

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400) TOPICS: CDs/BOOKs/MAGAZINEs/VIDEOs
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401)	Where can I buy the lastest CDs/Books/Magazines?

	Try Annie.Chan@EBay.Sun.COM, she has just started a Karaoke/CD mail
order outfit.  No details.  

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402)	How do I subscribe to Chinese newspapaers?

	You can subscribe Sing Tao Daily by contacing:

	Sing Tao Limited
	185 Canal St. Basement                  246 Harrison Ave
	New York, NY 10013                      Boston, MA 02111

	234 W. Cermak Rd. 2/F                   126 N. 10th St.
	Chicago, IL 60616                       Philadephia, PA 19107

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403)	Is there any mail order place for these items? 

	Not right now but some netters mentioned that they have
something similar in the making and I think they will let us know
as soon as they are ready.

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404) 	Why can't I watch HK video tapes in the US/Canada?	

	It is because the tape from HK are recorded in the PAL format 
and you probably have a NTSC system.  They are not compatible. 

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405)	What should I do when I receive a PAL tape from HK?

	You can convert the tape from PAL <=> NTSC by contacting some
service company.  In US, There are two that are recommended by the 
SCHK netters:

	DAKE International                      SOMI International
	3208 Foxboro Dr.                        50 Summer St.
	Richardson, TX 75082                    Edison, NJ 08820
	(214)-234-8518                          (908)-548-3065

	INTERNATIONAL VIDEO CONVERSION
	520 Harvest Lane
	Raleigh, NC 27606-2217
	(919) 233-8689

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550) TOPICS: GATHERINGS/LOCAL GROUPS
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551)    Anybody out there from XYZ Secondary School?

	We often see posting from SCHK netters looking for lost 
classmates.  Michael Yip from Digitial Equipment Corporation had 
spent considerable amount of time and effort to compile a 
high school list which he post very regularly.  If you have missed the
last issue, you can contact him at "yip@wsl.dec.com".
 
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552)	How can I start an e-mail alumni association?	

	Check with the High School List first before you start.  There
is a slight opportunity that such a mailing list is already available.
here is the known alumius list:

	a) Cheung Sha Wan Catholic Secondary School, email John Ho,
		john@jho.com for details.

	b) Choi Hung Est. Catholic Secondary School, email
		Dominic Ng cstdxek@csv.warwich.ac.uk for details.

	c) Ho Lap College, email Johnny Chow
		vcsc335@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu for details.

	d) Lutheran Middle Sch, email Johnny Chow
		vcsc335@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu for details.

	e) Maryknoll Convent School, for enrollment (both alumnus and
		others), mail to Elizabeth Luk
		achiever@u.washington.edu

	f) Queen's College - mail to qcnet@athena.mit.edu for details.

	g) St. Francis Xavier School, TW - mail to Thomas Kwan
		nkkwan@descartes.uwaterloo.ca for enrollment.

	h) SPCC 88 (cert year) - mail to hkspcc88@athena.mit.edu for
		distribution.

	i) Tin Kwong Rd Govt Sec Sch - email Edward S.N.Chiu
		chiu@cs.unr.edu for details.

	j) WYCHK - mail to wychk-request@kccs.com for details.

	k) WYK - mail to John Chiu chiu@ccsf.caltech.edu for
		enrollment.

 	l) Diocesan Boys' School has a DBSnet for DBS old boys. To register,
  		send a hello email to <dbs-admin@athena.mit.edu>.

	m) HKTA Student Ambassador - mail to Albert Pang at
		albert@brahms.insl.mcgill.ca for details.

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553)	Are there any local gathering groups?

	In Dallas, Texas, you can get in touch with John Ho at 
john@jho.com.  The SCHK Texans get together for Dim Sum, Karaoke,
BBQ, eat and plain BS.  Tons of fun.  Everyone welcome.

	In San Jose, California. You can contact the Club 
Bauhinia (CB) - "Care H K" group in the San Jose area. They are 
an associate member of AHKCUS. They print booklets about HK and 
help HK students in Univsity of California at Berkely to publish 
booklets and stage their HK Week. They also participate in slide 
shows about HK etc.  For further information, please contact 
Dennis Lee albee@eng.sun.com.

	In Bay area, you can contact the BAGgers - (Bay Area Gethering) 
They hold semi-regular gatherings for fun in the Bay Area  e.g. BBQ, 
Bowling, fishing, rafting etc.  And they have a regular soccer game 
every other week.  There are usally 20 to 30 players.  For more
information, please contact Nelson Chan at Nchan@hpcupt1.hp.com
or Lawrence Chow lawrence.chow@eng.sun.com.

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700) TOPICS: LEGENDS
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701)	Who is Deanna?

	During (what month?) of 1991, in response to all those 
usual "looks + intelligence = constant" silly talks, a student
called Deanna from University of Pittsburgh posted a message
claiming "I am pretty and witty." This bold assertion stunned
the hitherto male-dominated schk and Deanna became the Marilyn 
Monroe of schk overnight. More than 100 articles were posted
in a few days and a See_Deanna_Club was eventually formed.
Deanna has left Univ of Pittsburgh since but she left with us
a very fond memory of hi-tech romance.  Thank you Deanna.
 
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702)	Who is Jan?

	Jan is a Yale student with unknown gender.  In May, 1992,  
After series of claims of a lonesome male from HK who has the voice
of Jackey Cheung, the look of Andy Lau, and the smile of Leon Lai.
Jan suddenly identifies HIMSELF as a HERSELF.  Later on, Jan 
announced this whole event was indeed HER on going experiment 
conducted by the Department of Psychology in Yale University.  
People were mad and some even send letter to the Dept. chair to 
complain about the so-called experiment as unethical. Later, Jan 
turned into a HE and tried to defend HIS and HER position. Today, 
Jan's identity remains a mystery.

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-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong