HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Aussie Mini-Chat Official Report PtI
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 10:55:42 GMT

OFFICIAL REPORT on 1ST AUSTRALASIAN ARC MINI-CHAT
Held in Canberra, Australia, Dec31 1992-Jan 3 1993.

Clare wanted to write the snide remarks - so I got to post the facts! :-)

DEC 31 (Thu)
I had to drive up from Melbourne to Canberra - an 8.5 hour drive, over 700km.
It had been cool in Melbourne all week, but naturally the sun came out
this day, to warm the air to 30 Deg C, and the car to about 50 Deg!
Anyway, I hit Canberra about 6.30pm, and checked in at ANU where I stayed.
For the first time in my life, I was running early for something! Until I
tried to phone Clare. We had only exchanged phone nos, not addresses!
Now, my room had a phone, but it only took 20 mins until I concluded I
couldn't make it work. So I then kerb-crawled the streets of Canberra :-)
looking for a payphone!! That only took 20 mins! Finally, contact was made,
and I rolled up at Clare's mum's house at 8.30 - my usual half hour late! :-)

I've already written how we met... we were like old friends almost 
instantly. Clare had cooked a great chicken satay dinner, and with Clare's
mum, Ruth, we spent the dinner session playing an academics blood-sport -
PhD-Supervisor-Crucifixion! :-) After dinner, Clare showed me how to log
on using her modem... and we spent most of the rest of the night there.
We probably did more talking than typing - it was great fun just getting
to know someone in person, after all that time. We hugged and nearly cried
when I read a post from Clare saying how much *I* had helped her thru her
difficult times over the last few months.
Midnight came, and we toasted the new year with port - because that is what
we were drinking at the time. It was a very quiet New Year - just two
people. But it was one of the most enjoyable I've spent in a long time.
We probbaly split about 1.30, because Clare had to help with the big bash
that was coming up the next day.

JAN 1
I slept till nearly 12 noon... driving for 9 hours is harder than it
sounds, and arrived back at Clare's about 2pm. It was another hot day in
Canberra, so we raced off down to the local store, to by more champagne
for all of Ruth's thirsty neighbors who were over. Lots of talking
and laughing and so on - intersting people. About 5pm, Clare and I were
left with a disaster zone to clean, but we managed that pretty well.
Dinner was at the Woden Pizza Hut - the only place open for dinner on New
Year's Day! After dinner, we had more coffee and talked and typed again until
after midnight. I think it was this night that Clare told me the full details
of her split with Jonno and her falling in love with Edouard. Not a happy tale
except for the ending.

More in next post!
(Hope this isn't boring you all - it is at the Prez's request! :-) )

--
Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
Subject: Re: Its Chat Time!!!!!
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:07:00 GMT

In article <C0Hw6B.H64@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter) has an active imagination... 
>ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) shares: 
>>No, no, you got it all confused. I am imaginary and YOU are
>>real...sheesh.
>
>Wait a sec....are you saying you are a figment of my imagination?
>WhewBoy!  Do I ever have a fantastic imagination!!! ;)
>

But of coarse. He is the man of your dreams, is he not? And your dreams have
become reality because he sees you as the woman of his dreams.
Hmmmm imagination becoming reality,..., well so much for the conservation
of mass/energy law.

>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>            President, Romantic Fire Association
>  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
>"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Take care, and sweet dreams
    Robert

-- 
/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
| Robert N. Deviasse            |"The things that are not easily attained,    |
| EMAIL: g2devi@cdf.utoronto.ca |    are the things we cherish the most."     |
+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Them 'man' pages...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:45:57 GMT

Puter writes:

> My favorite...
> 
> $ man woman
> man: woman not found
> 
> *sigh* *sniff*

When I enter...

$ man woman

...the response is...

No manual entry for woman.

I choose not to comment on this, but I thought some of you might...

phantasm
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Subject: Re: Future Love
Reply-To: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:53:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.222132.20847@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>
>*laugh* 
>well I suppose really that everyone has a "life". (Hey, didn't we discuss
>this already? And I never did get a good answer from the net on the
>definition...) it's just a matter of the nature of the life. :)
>
	"nature"? as in Mother Nature?  where would a dryad be without
	her, huh?  (probably bored somewhere in Montana)


>Hmm. I wonder if life in Montana is really that bad. Can't be too much
>"worse" than in Houghton. 
>

	Houghton?  where's that?  (hopefully, no where near Montana)


>>	Why, such a sweet thing to say!
>>	Wanna come up and see my burlwood?  ;^)
>
>I'd be honored, actually... :) how old is it?
>

	Centuries!  And it's really quite beautiful (unlike the burl
	in Montana)


>well, it's all in what's important to you...net.reading is a good
>way to procrastinate!
>

	I think so.  It beats being a ruminant proctologist in Montana!


>-bacon
>who'd rather now plant trees than cut them

	
	Plant trees?  well, in order to grow redwoods, the seeds
	hafta be exposed to a raging very hot hot hot *forestfire* !!
	(the Sequoia Sempervirens chapter of the RFA??)


Judi
TOPDryadOfTheRFA
"YouAskHowIKnowOfTheStateOfMontana,Well,ISpentAWeekThereOneDay..."


Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: prauda@dol-guldur.hut.fi (Kristiina Prauda)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your S.O.
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:18:28 GMT
	<1993Jan8.073152.8008@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Helsinki University, Finland


rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:

>prauda@dol-guldur.hut.fi (Kristiina Prauda) writes:
>
><Wonderful story about meeting and growing together with SO deleted>
>
>
>Kristiina, that is a wonderful tale.
>
>I don't know if it gives me some hope, or what....

Definitely "or what", at least if the hope you seek is for quiet,
comfortable life... <grin> 

("Quiet, comfortable... honey, you ever heard those words before?" 
"Nah. Is it something edible?" 
"Dunno. What were we arguing about?" 
"I'm not sure. Why don't we call it a day, get to bed and f*** like
crazed weasels?"
"Perfect idea!"

From: A Day in Our Lives, a soap opera in the grandest tradition, by KP)

>but it is beautiful all the same.

Thanks, Ross...

>You are very lucky.

I know. :-) Sometimes I have to remind myself about that, but most
of the time I just do the classical ARC-Lady thing: look at him, feel
a weakness at my knees and and remain ogling at him with a look of 
mindless adoration... :-)

(Always brings us high points, that look, in the Mutual Cuteness 
Competitions around our table at the University Cafe... :-))

>*HUGS*

*hugs* to you, too, Ross - just wait until you'll be the one to
look ridiculously cute in public... :-)



Kristiina
Official FireDancer of the RFA
prauda@dol-guldur.hut.fi
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 1993 22:31:30 -0500 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shhh (ARC) Attack
	<1993Jan9.220817.20669@mtu.edu>

bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
******just about everything deleted**********
> sometimes you can't put humpty dumpty back together again, and you're
> better off saving what pieces are there to be saved and designing
> Humpty Dumpty Mk II. 

Umm... Forgive my ignorance and correct me if I'm wrong, but.... Didn't
someone make him an omelette after Humpty Dumpty went to pieces?? Or
scrambled, maybe.... Come to think of it, sunny side up isn't that bad
either....

RickI, the RoadRunner
Somehow I have trouble getting serious....
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Shhh (ARC) Attack
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:08:17 GMT

In article <93008.103209IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> <IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jody Namio writes:
>my "angst" isn't necessary directly related to the status of, lack of,
>or departure of an SO in my life. sometimes it is. sometimes i don't
>know if i ever want an SO again. sometimes i feel such an ache for
>lack of an SO its a physical pain. thats the way it goes, i guess.

yeah, that's the way it goes. sometimes of course you're like Julie
and Steve and get lucky. Other times, well...

>i wish i could be more optimistic about having another person in my life,
>or about another person WANTING to be in my life. that's the part i find
>hard. if another person wants to be in my life, what's wrong with him??

Worse, there's that part of you that wants to overlook that
just because they're there and interested and...ya know? 

Or worse, when you KNOW what's wrong with them and you know you're
incompatible or it's otherwise bad for you but you can't stop yourself
anyway? Much much worse. 

>moved to arizona from minnesota almost three years ago to be with
>someone who, when i got here, decided he didn't want to take the
>responsibility for having got me here. decided that it was okay to
>ignore me and treat me like an afterthought but show up at the door
>a few times a month for a physical part of a relationship. i sent
>him away.

sounds like a weenie. good move.

>          met and fell in love with someone i still have feelings for
>but have been treated in ways by this person that causes me to no
>longer trust him, trust his actions, trust the things he tells me
>or trust him enuf to tell him how i'm feeling. don't know if that
>trust can be rebuilt or rekindled, or whether its just gone.

sometimes you can't put humpty dumpty back together again, and you're
better off saving what pieces are there to be saved and designing
Humpty Dumpty Mk II. 

just from my view, it's possible that the way that guy acted to
you could be completely non-malicious - just a result of his own
internal confusion about his own self and feelings and stuff.

>had a date here and there with new people i've met, but have come
>to the probably erroneous conclusion that these were the types of
>guys that think its okay to take a woman to dinner or a movie, then
>try to jump her bones before she leaves the car. i can live without
>that. i can live alone with my cats the rest of my life before
>putting up with that.

at least the cats will cuddle and be nice to you (assuming they're
in the mood of course - but as they get older, they'll be in the
mood more...) and expect nothing more than cat food in the morning. :)

>heavy sigh
>
>thanks for listening. i'll stop whining now.....

it's not whining.

-bacon
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: romance
Keywords: romance
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:42:05 GMT

jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu (John M. Turner) shares: 

>>Yeah, Silly Putty!! AHHHHhahhahhahaaaahaaa, left herself wide open for
>>THAT one didn't she folks?!

>Does this mean that you're going to be used to pick up pictures out of
>the comics?  (At least that's what I used Silly Putty for...)
>:-)

The way my husband thinks?  Who knows. ;)


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
Subject: Re: anti-happy people attack ARC
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:49:39 GMT

In article <93006.163210IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET> <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET> is shocked
>I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!  THIS IS INSANE!  THIS IS, IS, IS....TYPICAL!
>
>Alt.angst is whining about ARC.  Can you believe it?  Whining about
>the BEST, HAPPIEST, NEWSGROUP IN NETNEWS?  Unbelievable!!!
>They're over there complaining about how sappy, happy, and so totally
>romantic we are....
>
>WELL, I SAY TO THEM....I SMILE IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!:) (big smile)
>
>-Michele (with 1 "l") in AZ
>"I need a lover that won't drive me crazy"

Well I won't antagonize them too much, in fact it's sort of sad that
th A.A.-folk (hmmm I never noticed that the ancronym looked familiar)
can't experience the joy of ARC. I've read the attacks and it looks
more like sour grapes than genuine hate. Besides, do any us really look 
like hamsters:-)

There's still hope for them. Life is a very strange thing, and I wouldn't
be surprised if some of the A.A. eventually meet someone or some very
special people that help them make the transition to ARC.

Take care, and welcome aboard the ARC Michele.
    Robert.


-- 
/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
| Robert N. Deviasse            |"The things that are not easily attained,    |
| EMAIL: g2devi@cdf.utoronto.ca |    are the things we cherish the most."     |
+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: I'M IN THE RFA !!!!
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:04:24 GMT

>> Thanks to all those who gave some feedback on my story (both of you).  The
>> Prez says I'm to pick a title and announce my joining the RFA.  So here goes:
>> 	Ed Vorst is proud to announce his acceptance into the Romantic 
>> Fireside Association.  A new sig has been developed strictly for this
>> occassion and shall be used from now on when on ARC.

congrats eh?

>> =========================================================
>> *		Ed Vorst				*
>> *	Official Conquistador  				*
>> *	Deliverer of the HOLY Warm Fuzzies  +		*
>> *	Protector of the RFA from non-romantics		*
>> *		and lust-seekers			*
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
>> *	"Peace and Warm Fuzzies to all !!!!!"		*
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
>> *	email: evorst@umanitoba.ca			*
>> =========================================================

big enough??!!

-bacon
dissed cause his RFA entry seems to have fallen thru the cracks
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow)
Subject: Re: I'M IN THE RFA !!!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:57:59 GMT

evorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca  writes:
> Thanks to all those who gave some feedback on my story (both of you).  The
> Prez says I'm to pick a title and announce my joining the RFA.  So here goes:
> 	Ed Vorst is proud to announce his acceptance into the Romantic 
> Fireside Association.  A new sig has been developed strictly for this
> occassion and shall be used from now on when on ARC.
> 	( And now for the unveiling..... )
> 
> 
> =========================================================
> *		Ed Vorst				*
> *	Official Conquistador  				*
> *	Deliverer of the HOLY Warm Fuzzies  +		*
> *	Protector of the RFA from non-romantics		*
> *		and lust-seekers			*
> *-------------------------------------------------------*
> *	"Peace and Warm Fuzzies to all !!!!!"		*
> *-------------------------------------------------------*
> *	email: evorst@umanitoba.ca			*
> =========================================================

CONGRATULATIONS Ed :)

Glad you made it... i like the name:)

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Paul Snow     **HUGS**       email to: psnow@ns.ccsn.edu                    |
|Official Cloud-  **SMILES**     Don't feel a fool tripping over your feet,  |
|Watcher of the RFA  **  8-)  **    when your eyes are fixed on the clouds...|
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+   

   ...Remember, a rainbow may end in a pot of gold,
        but it begins in the clouds...
From: lf@marooned.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Julie quotes....
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:43:38
Organization: Fiends' Guild of ARCland
NNTP-Posting-Host: marooned.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:54:51 GMT

Jules complains:
>Oh Steven!  Garrett is picking on me for a typo!

Wow.  Either he's pretty desperate, or you're a member of that unique
(some say despicable 8-) breed, the TypoPusher...

LexicographicalFiend, Pundis Horrendis Aevi
  Official ReallyGrossDittyWriter of ARCland and DirtyMindedApe
  Bro to Rip, 'Chelle, HotDi, Miche and Sarek; SpiritualBro to Lis
  "jules, I need a typoe kiwk...tank yew..."
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Greetings Steve...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:44:12 GMT

pcxsws@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (S.Ward-Smith):

> ...anyone out there ever had any stunningly accurate
> readings on their lovelife by Tarot,Runestones,crystals etc.

Yes, indeed... I am partial to Tarot...

> I`ve given a few which hit a bit close to home for the people concerned.

Care to try your hand at reading me?

phantasm

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat,soc.singles,alt.romance
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject:  The Official Warning
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:38:04 GMT

maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
] In article <1993Jan6.223945.15676@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
] >
] >I think you'll find that we don't know what the point is anymore. :)
] >
] >-bacon
] 
] I wish someone could have warned me....    =)
] 
] Smiles again!
]   Dawna =)
] 

To Prevent Future Cases of this Occuring -

You have NOW been Officially Warned.

Please Do Not make this Mistake Again.


ciao
drieux




-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: "Olivia Newton-John is the grand-daughter 
of Nobel Prize-winning physicist Sir Edmund Newton-John." --Frank

Clear Proof Of Genetic Superiority, eh No????
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: Aussie Mini-Chat Official Report, Part II
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 03:13:12 GMT

jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter) writes:

>rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) shares: 

>>END OF OFFICIAL REPORT
>>(Did that measure up, Madame Prez??)

>Its was perfect, Ross.  Glad to hear you and Clare had a good time.  Isn't
>it wonderful meeting ARC folks!

Sure is. Now I just have to get to the US, and meet some more of you!
(How's that airfare offer coming on, Steve?? :-)  )

--
Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio)
Subject: Re: Return to the Chocovat...
Summary: Playfulness gets you everywhere!
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:03:10 GMT
Expires: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 05:00:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: chocolate
Followup-To: alt.romance.chat

In article <1993Jan11.021533.28319@cheshire.oxy.edu> johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson) writes:

>The wonderful thing about Tiggers, is that Tiggers are wonderful things...:)

Aye. And when we get REALLY playful...

*sploosh* *slurp* *purrrrr*

We gently nibble on chocolate-covered strawberries!

>>Do Tiggers like chocolate-covered strawberries?
>>;^)
>
>Doesn't *everybody*?  *confused look*  (Well, *don't* they?)

Um, uh, gee, is *anyone* else looking at all this mischief?

*blush*

>>*HumongousSillyGoofyPlayfulLaughingTeasingTicklingTiggerHug*
>
>Wow! *knocked to ground*
>
>>(much affectionate wrestling and tumbling ensues)
>
>*out of breath*  
>*BigGrin*  
>I've always wanted a TiggerHug!  *nostalgic sigh*
>Thank ye much!  

And *I*, as a MOST affectionate, bouncy, and playful Tigger, am
only too glad to smother chocolate-covered strawberries with 'em!

>*giggle*  Tiggers are definitely irrepressible. I like that in a
>friend.

Fun fun fun fun fun!

*RollingAroundOnTheChocolateCoveredFloorHoldingTheStrawberry*

(gee, if only we could do it in person!)

8^)

Victor
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nowhere Man)
Subject: Re: Romance vs. Lust...
Organization: ARCP&D
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:11:39 GMT

jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
>ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) shares: 
>
>>>> HEY PEOPLE FORGET ALL ABOUT ROMANCE IT'S D-E-A-D
>>>> PEOPLE JUST WANT SEX LIKE ME AND FORGET ALL OTHER FEELINGS
>>>> SO BE IT 
>>
>>Hmmm, didn't see Drac's post...obviously he/she has no romance in
>>their life. That is sad.
>
>Well, I think this poor soul will get exactly what he predicts he will
>get.  If he was looking for romance, love and good sex, he would find
>it.  Unfortunately, he will probably go on having meaningless sex for
>the rest of his life.  Sad, isn't it.  There's so much more to it.

	Geez.  I know more and more people who think the way Drac is
pointing out, and it IS sad.  If I would have never gone for a romance
relationship, I would not have met anyone so special as the woman I am
with now.  I don't think I could face it.

>>Sex, lust and romance are all alive and well and can all be a part of
>>a Whole. You can have romance without sex or lust and you can have it
>>WITH sex and lust. Only thing about that is that when you combine sex
>>and romance you often end up making love instead of having sex.
>
>Exactly, my love.  I never understood that until about a year ago :)

	Aw... thanks, Julie...      OH!     You meant Steve?  Ah.
Sorry.  Um...  NEXT!
						Erin -
-- 
She's so hot, yet so cold...  That's what I like about her...
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: RFA Application. At last.
From: cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare West)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:46:07 GMT
Organization: Dept of CompSci, U of Auckland

In article <1993Jan13.112333.13136@waikato.ac.nz> darren@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>Prez!! Here, finally, is my RFA application!
>(How much is the bribe to ensure it goes through okay?)

I don't think you'll need a bribe - great story darren,

>"Did you say we needed cream cheese, Kirsty?"

Yummmm, cream cheese :-)

*HUG*

clare

-- 
     |                 &   Official Welcomer    &  Hello, my name is Inigo 
,--. |  --. ,--. ,--.  &      of the RFA        &  Montoya.  You killed my 
|    | ,--| |    |--'  &  BigSis to Kristiina,  &  father. Prepare to die.
`--' " `--" "    `--'  &    Eric and Chris      &    -- The Princess Bride
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