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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: 1st Word to other formats
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:40:47 GMT

annius@eri.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink) writes:

>ZZDLG@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:

>>Hi Folks,
>> A friend is moving his WP from 1st Word Plus on the ST to
>>Word Perfect a PC. Are there any utilities available to
>>convert 1st word files to a format suitable for reading
>>by WP without loosing all the formatting info. Dave.

>I think this question should not be tolerated and to say the least not be
>answered in an ST group.  Anyway, what's the point of moving from one
>rediculous package to the other?

IMO this is rather offending and not too helpful. No good for S/N (I know that
this follow-up ain't too...OK)

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Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
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University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Wanted: Statistics packages for the ST
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:26:27 GMT

Hi Atari folks,

a friend of mine is looking for good statistics packages for  his
ST  computer.  Since the main use will be standard deviations and
such, extreme  sophistication  is  not  necessary.  However,  the
package  should  be  easy  to  use  and  have  possibilities  for
producing graphical  output,  or  at  least  an  interface  to  a
standard tool for this purpose, e.g. to spreadsheets.
Of course, PD software is preferred, but pointers  to  commercial
packages are also welcome.

Thanx in advance

Greetinx, Jan

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:16439 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:5553
From: gt2372b@prism.gatech.EDU (Olympio Achilles De Faria Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Quantum 105LPS on ST
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:11:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I had similar problems with a Quantum LPS52. I called Supra Technical
Support ((503)967-2440) and they told me the old Supra host adaptor
would not work with this drive because the drive is "too fast" for it.
The newer Supra adaptor would supposedly work, though.

                   Olympio

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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: ZOO does not extract all files from MINT095B.ZOO
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:29:30 GMT

Hi folks,

After finally upgrading my ST to 2.5 MB I decided it was time  to
start  a serious attempt to install MiNT. I used ZOO.TTP, version
2.1 (92/07/09), with the command e// mint095b.zoo *.* to  extract
the  stuff from the archive. However, after zoo had finished, not
all files were extracted, e.g. the faq and the  copyrigh.t  files
were missing. Any ideas what went wrong?
I should say that I'm not too well informed  about  packers,  and
that  I  use  lharc for my own archiving purposes. So maybe I did
not use the correct zoo command?

Thanx in advance for any hints,

Greetinx, Jan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: How to become an Official Atari Develo
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:00:43 GMT

In article 26667@bnr.ca, grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier) writes:
>Send a letter to Atari attention Gail Bacani, or Bill Rehbock.
>They can send you the details. I do not have the address here
>but information can get it to you. 
>
>You could also send email to ATARIDEV on GEnie.
>
>Brian, WS1S
>Bell Northern Research
>Research Triangle Park, NC


Gail Bacani's address is:

Atari Developer Support
ATTN: Gail Bacani
1196 Borregas Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA  94809

Her phone number is:  (408) 745-6833
                FAX:  (408) 745-2094

Good luck!

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From: ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu (gary anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: How to convert .PI1 files to any IBM format??
Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:59:10 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu


Subject line pretty much says it all, if rather tersely:  I'm looking
for some way to convert some Degas-type .PI1 pictures into any 
IBM-readable format, like .GIF or .BMP.

Can it be done?

Thanks!

Gary Anderson
ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: guenther@vati.fmi.uni-passau.de (Thorsten Guenther)
Subject: Re: Gif Viewers
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:06:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.125324.8760@ac.dal.ca> cossett@ac.dal.ca writes:
>   What is the best GIF viewer available for the Atari? I
>have an Atari 520stfm which has had a 1meg memory upgrade.
>The only gifviewer I have is gifshow, and it does not seem
>to be able to handle gif's over 100000bytes in size. 
>Please respond by mail or post.
>
>                             Tim Cossett
>                             COSSETT@AC.DAL.CA

The very best one, IMHO, is Gemview by D.Fiebelkorn. It is full GEM, works
as .PRG and .ACC and displays virtually all picture formats including
.JPG (at least the newer versions do). It should be available at a.a. and
on most German ftp-sites carrying ATARI stuff.

Weregoose

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Reason for Falcon delay
Keywords: Falcon, delay, improved 
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:24:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.085033.18063@ugle.unit.no>, anderss@colargol (anderss) writes:
|> 
|>   The reason for the delay of the Falcon is that Atari has
|> pulled it back and redesigned the graphics system. This was done
|> when they got the specifications for the A1200. The Falcon has now
|> been improved with higher graphic resolutions, the max. resolution
|> is now 1280*960. (I don't know how many colors there will be in this
|> resolution). This is done to ensure that the Falcon is better than
|> the A1200 in all ways!!!
|>   The minimum RAM config. will now be 4MB, and the new Falcon will
|> cost the same as the 1MB Falcon was supposed to ship for.
|>   Machines should be shipping by the end of next week. (Unless Atari
|> decide something else...)
|>   

   From where you got this info?  And machines are supposed to ship by end
of next week?  Yeah, sure, right, Uhu.... keep the faith.

|>    _
|>   | |       |                         Anders Skar
|>   |_|  _   _|  _   _  _      Trondheim College of Engineering
|>   | | | | | | |_| |  |_            anderss@edb.tih.no
|>   | | | | |_| |_  |   _|  68040 - You can't outrun the lightning

-- 
Raist
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: Which comms package? Flash 2 ???
Keywords: Telecomm program STalker
	<1992Nov3.051027.19548@news.nd.edu> <3627@isgtec.isgtec.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 09:49:36 -0700

In <3627@isgtec.isgtec.com> ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:

>Anyway, about STalker3, from what I've seen of it, it runs the terminal
>session in a GEM window. I have two questions about this:
>      1) can it display a full 80 columns on screen?
>      2) how fast does it scroll incoming text through a fast (v32bis)
>         modem? Is it real fast like Flash 1.6, i.e. can it keep up
>         with the data without handshaking constantly?

	Yes, if you remove all the window gadgets, move bar, vertical, and
horizontal scroll bars, and use the supplied gdos fonts, you can get 25
lines, and with NVDI, at 14400, it scrolls fast enough, I can't keep 
up reading in ascii mode. Fancy vt100 graphics slow things down a bit.

	I used Flash for years, then Interlink, then went back to Flash.
Always had Shadow with flash, but Shadow needs upgrading to zmodem, so I
tried and liked Satlker 3 enugh to buy it. You need to be up to at least
3.02, the current latest, as it fixes several annoying bugs in the
original 3. There is a script login writing script to help for those who
hate script languages, nd the scrtipt language is based on C, which I
personally prefer to basic, but then I never learned basic. I use
nothing but Stalker any more, except Hermes uucp, and can't say enough
good things about it, though if CoNNect could run as an accessory, and
transfer in the background, it would be a close race. 


-- 
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  T.K.O.O.C.            <1992May11.073237.14684@rotag.mi.org>
                kevin@rotag.mi.org(Kevin "I'm not a net cop" Darcy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Audio Info, pretty please (plus, true-color tidbit)
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:44:15 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Distribution: comp
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <TONYB.92Nov4135655@titania.juliet.ll.mit.edu>, tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke ) writes:
>A couple of weeks ago someone dropped a posting into rec.audio.pro
>saying that the Falcon would have 8 channel digital audio recording
>capabilities, with some healthy DSP power to boot, *standard*, and
>at some amazingly low price.
>
>I'm sure that this has been beaten to death already, but I've been
>reading the group for a few days now and everyone seems obsessed with
>beating each other up over the definition of "true color".  So could
>someone please help me out a bit, and do one or more of the following?
>
>1) E-mail or post a quick description of what you know about
>   the audio sampling capabilities of the Falcon, and the projected
>   price of a system (minus the big disk drive) that would allow
>   this to happen.
>
>2) give me some idea of who/how to call for product info
>
From: gt1448b@prism.gatech.EDU (David P. Forrai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Where to get a ST/STe video plug
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:50:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I recently purchased a refurbished Sony 1302 multisync to use with
my Mega STE.  I found the file on atari.archive for connecting a
multisync to the ST/STe and it seems very straightforward.  What I
need is the plug for the monitor port.  Where can I get one?


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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: VT 220
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <1dcms8INNdd3@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
[stuff deleted]

re: Uniterm
>	You are right, the updating _is_ faster, but you lose compatibility -
>it will probably break on the Falcon, and it definately will break in a 
>multitasking environment.  Connect's strength is that it uses GEM.  It's 
>weakness is that it must depend on slow GEM (VDI) code, unless you have a 
>screen accelerator, and then it flies!  

   I dunno if it will break on a Falcon, but Uniterm works fine under
a Multitasking environment (MultiGEM in particular).  Of course, you
should only have it running as the sole term program because it
only accesses modem port 1 (whereas ConNect does let you use up to
3 modem/serial ports and the MIDI port).  Both term programs work
well on my MegaSTe/Warp9...

[stuff deleted]

>>P.P.S.: Uniterm supports up to 132 columns by 50 lines, if you need it...
>>but the characters are a bit small.
>
>	Connect supports a 8 pt font that should give you more lines than you
>need, but it is hard on the eyes, just as any small font (like in Uniterm) will
>do.  Actually, Connect has several font sizes 8pt to 40pt.

  A definite strength of ConNect is its use of GDOS.  However, the one
thing that Uniterm can do that I have NOT seen other term programs
do (on the Atari or IBM) is full VT100 emulation (i.e. actual
DOUBLE-SIZED characters (double height/width, single height/double
width, single width/double height).  If anyone has found any other
term programs (ST or IBM) that can do this, let me know...

  One thing I do like about ConNect is the use of multiple ports for
communication.  This way, I can leave my modem plugged into modem port 1,
and my null-modem connecttion to my 286 on modem port 2.  No moving around
wires or getting a RS232 switch box...

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

"I used to be indecisive... now I'm not so sure..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry)
Subject: Re: The FALCON - too slow ??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.040149.6428@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez) writes:
>In article <1dprp3INN9rg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>|>
>|> In a previous article, cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Christopher Walton) says:
>|>
>|> >A friend yesturday said he'd seen the FALCON in Dusseldoff and the screen scrolling
>|> >in 'true colour' mode was like glue.   I haven't actually seen a falcon yet but I
>|> >have read most articles on it and this wasn't mentioned.   Since he owns a TT
>|> >and is likely to be biased, can anyone else set my mind at rest ???
>|> >
>|> >Thanks - Chris (cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk)
>|>
>|> Maybe the software made it slow?
>|>
>   It shall be slow... it is more memory to move + CPU memory contention
>since the video bus is the same as the cpu bus to memory.
>
>- Raist
>

It is slow because Atari STILL haven't made use of STe's hardware scrolling
(which I assume is available on the Falcon) in TOS.  Apart from the slowdown
due to loss of available memory bandwidth, scrolling should not be any slower
in the Falcon's high resolution modes.
  The funny thing is that Atari recently complained about games programmers
not using the facilities of the STe.

- Leo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Atari spokesmen where are you?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:11:10 GMT

In article 721651595@dhhalden.no, runehy@dhhalden.no (RUNE HYLDMO) writes:
>Could someone from ATARI s staff please respond to all the questions about 
>the delay of the FALCONS!!!

Atari personnel, few as they are, no longer peruse the Internet.  GEnie is
the official Atari network which Bob Brodie and Bill Rehbock check into
frequently.

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_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Is there any Atari support..!!!
From: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 04:23:32 GMT
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <PuVVTB1w165w@status.gen.nz>, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>> Just look at the lies about FSMGDOS, about 3 years worth, and the CD Rom and 
>> Hard Drives, no one here can even get there Atari fixed, no Agent, NO PARTS.?
>  
> The cdar504 was released for retail in New Zealand.  I still have one 
>here we use from time to time. 

Yup, they WERE around

> Do you remember Jim Towler ? He was running one on "Tinkerbell" his BBS 
>there in Wellington some 5 years ago. We have been running one for asbout 
>(opps about) the same length of time as well.

So there's still a few bbs's... that's good, we've still got
 "The Trashcan" in ChCh, it has lots of new software that I FTP on it.

> I also have 4 Atari hard drives here are well Sh205,one ICD home brew, 
>and two mega files. My point the equipment WAS available here and still 
>is if you know where to look. 

I agree with the WAS, but just where the hell can you buy anything
 _new_ now, and where can you get service in the country?
The only shops with anything have old stock that they've had for a while,
  as for service... there is none... if your ST dies, you're in trouble.
 Mine did 2 weeks ago, but luckily it was only the power supply, so I was
 able to get a friend who services IBM's to fix it.
There's no dealer in the whole country, so how can retailers get parts to
 service them????? Just where do we look Jon? The only place I can
 think of is Mail order firms in US magazines... UK ones are too expensive
 by the time you go through the exchange rate.
 
> I was in Taupo the other day and at Whites Music Shop they have a STE 
>complete with Megafile 60 and all the software you could desire..

As I said, probably old stock.
 
> I agree there is now no support but hey Roger what has changed over the
>last ten years ? I put it to you .. nothing!...
>

Who needs support from Atari? I can get all I need from the other friendly
 helpful users, something some of the other platforms can't boast about.
All I want is to be able to go down to a shop and get new toys to add
 on to my computer, or be able to get the thing fixed if it dies.

Craig (Hoping atari gets a new dealer into the country soon!)

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From: doing@brahms.udel.edu (David Allen Doing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari St for sale
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:38:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware


FOR SALE:

ATARI 520st w/ Panasonic Printer

Includes:
	-all cables and accessories
	-color monitor (low and medium resolution)
	-external 3.5" disk drive
	-all software


Also included:
	-Hayes Smartmodem 1200 with ST-talk program (vt-52)

CHEAP!  CHEAP!  CHEAP!!!!!!!
Make me an offer, and I will ship it to you at no extra charge!!!!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry)
Subject: Re: Lighten up about the FALCONS
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:27:04 GMT

In article <BxJF2o.9wx@ucunix.san.uc.edu> klasmekj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Kevin J. Klasmeier) writes:
>Listen prople, why buy a computer which has no real software. Why don't

I would.

>we all just take a pill and cool off. Even if Atari made the Christmas
>deadline, the lack of software (software meaningful for the Falcon)

1) Most of the old software should still work (although 3x faster)
2) If the A1200 gets out first it will have a considerable advantage over the
Falcon, however inferior it is (remember Betamax v VHS?).
3) Software will only be written in quantity once the machine has been
officially released (people have been caught out once before with that
games console that Atari sent to developers last year, only to withdraw it
later, then there was the Abaq which was 6 months from being released at one
stage, not to mention the CD-ROM that was fully reviewed in PCW at one stage).
4) There would be software written for it after I had one for a week :-)

>would create a problem. You can't expect developers to come up with
>quality software in less that six months, not even Microsoft can produce
>that fast.                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you were not American I would think you were being sarcastic.

>You people who are whining that Atari missed the Christmas rush, would
>be the first people to cry about the lack of software for the FALCON.

There will be much less software in 6 months if it is not released before
Christmas.

>
>Sigh, just caaaaalm down....
>
>Kevin Klasmeier
>[Suddenly feeling laaaiiiid back ;^> ]

- Leo
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: pcditto .... colour only?
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:30:29 GMT
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article gNLuTB1w165w@status.gen.nz, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
>
>> The original release of the software based PC-Ditto supported color only.  Th
>> second release (actually called version 3.0, I believe) supported mono as wel
> 
>                 Fairdinkum?
>

Fair Dinkum, mate!  Would I lie to an old cobber like you? <don't answer that> :)

-Hutch-
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_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
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