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From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: Need newest patch for vi (Ultrix V4.2) !
Organization: IKE
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:48:54 GMT



   Hey,

   we have problems with vi editing on a NFS Filesystem. We use a 
   DECstation 5000/120 running Ultrix V4.2.  Somebody mailed
   me that there exists a patch exactly for this problem. Could somebody
   tell me, where I can get such patch ? Please mail me your informations.


   Thanks for your efforts,

      Oliver
   
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From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:20:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.030032.25790@umbc3.umbc.edu>, klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler) writes:
> 
> However, there is something that DEXPO can do, to give them a
> competative edge.  Historically DECUS (excuse me, the US Chapter of
> DECUS) has consistantly refused to offer any honoraria to their seminar
> speakers (of course, the presenters from DEC's Ed Services are DEC
> Employees, to they are another case entirely).  The seminar speakers
> for the other DECUS Chapters (Europe, Canada, GIA, etc.) do receive
> honoraria, in some cases based on the number of attendees that the
> seminar attracts.

???? I have never heard of the .AU chapter paying presenters. They do pick
up the tab for the speaker and generaly include registration. Invited speakers
from overseas may be an exception.

~Paul

Xref: sparky comp.org.decus:871 dfw.general:478
From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Subject: SCSI Controller For TurboChannel?
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:42:41 GMT

Hello,

I hope someone who is in the know can help me with this.  I am looking for
a Wide SCSI controller for the TurboChannel on a DS5000/240.  I know that
DEC, and perhaps some third party, makes an 8 bit SCSI-2 controller for
the TC.  What I need is a controller that has the second connector on
it for 16 or 32 bit wide data paths.  I think these things exist for the
VME bus, and even the SUN S-Bus.  If anyone has any information on this,
I would greatly appreciate letting me know.

thanks in advance.
eyc
-- 
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But t'is so much easier to curse the darkness.
From: mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: where can I find programmers?
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:07:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: guvax.1992Oct15.110702.1481
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

REQUEST FOR PROGRAMMER

Dear Friends,
I have been asked by a friend to find a programmer who could write software 
for a convenience store POS (point of sale) system that would automate 
checkouts for most customers. Can you direct me to any assoications or 
other places in the Washington DC area, any place that I can direct her 
from where she could find out about available, reliable programmers?

Thanks.

Bill McHenry
Georgetown University
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: cosc16to@menudo.uh.edu (Andy Hakim)
Subject: Decus FTP site for Pro softwre?
Organization: University of Houston
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:56:46 GMT


I read that DEC donated (long time ago) some system software and 
applications for the DEC Professional computers to DECUS.  This 
software is available on tape from decus, but it would be much 
more convenient to get it from an ftp site.  Is there such a site?

Andy Hakim
ahakim@uh.edu
Xref: sparky comp.org.decus:895 comp.os.os2.apps:7232 comp.benchmarks:1542 misc.books.technical:1549
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Seminar Speakers / DEXPO
From: David B. Horvath, CDP <MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:08:56 EDT
Organization: Hidden - I don't speak for them...

As a seminar (different from symposium) speaker, I felt I should throw my
$0.02 worth in.

From my experience, DECUS US pays round-trip coach, 2 nights, reasonable
meals, and any duplication expenses (up to something like $23/attendee).
If a second seminar is offered by the same speaker, an additional night is
covered and related meals (and of course duplication expenses).  There is
no *direct* compensation.  Co-speakers also receive expenses, helpers (non-
speakers) do not.

I've spoken with DECUS Canada (I'm offering my seminars for their National
event in Montreal); they have a limit for all expenses for a seminar (room,
air, duplication), and a CN$1000 direct compensation to speakers.  Neither
Co-speakers nor helpers receive any expense coverage.

DECUS Europe - I'm not sure of the details (I reviewed the material *months*
ago) but they provide some kind of expense reimbursement and allow the speaker
to attend the symposia for free.

I do not necessarily agree with the US policy, but I give my seminars anyway -
because I enjoy doing so.  I *would like* to receive money for doing so, but
that is not my prime motivation.

I've spoken with the SIG representatives about the "other" seminars (TTI/DEXPO)
and there are political problems with being involved with both.  There are some
hard and/or hurt feelings on both sides of this issue.

Personally, I plan on continuing to offer my seminars through DECUS (US,
Canada, *and* Europe) until I get burned-out or the organization screws me
personally.

BTW:  "Advanced C Programming" - Fall 91, Spring 92, offered/cancelled -
                                 El Paso 10/92, offered - Fall 92,
                                 proposed - Canada 3/93.
      "Everything you wanted to know about IBM Mainframe computers"
                                 {no flames please - many of us work in
                                  multiple platform environments} -
                                 Spring 92, offered - Fall 92, proposed -
                                 Canada 3/93.
      "Successful Job Search for the Technical Professional." -
                                 proposed/declined - Spring 92, Fall 92
                                 (3P SIG interested for the future),
                                 proposed - Canada 3/93.
    These are my seminars.

   - David B. Horvath, CDP
     preferred reply-to: dhorvath@pennsas.upenn.edu
     These are my opinions - not my broker's, clients', or DECUS's.
From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:56:55 GMT

In article <6427@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> A.C.Arnold@mcc.ac.uk writes:

>I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'honoraria' here. If you mean a fee
>for speaking, the DECUS Europe does NOT give this to seminar speakers.

OK, so far it would appear that only DECUS Canada pays a formal
honorarium (so far, the other chapters have not all been heard from :-)

>All we do is waive registration and pay travel and accommodation
>expenses for our seminar speakers. Maybe the US Chapter does not even go
>this far?

I may be wrong, I have been wrong before and I will be wrong agin, but
I believe that the U.S.  Chapter pays travel, 2 nights hotel and
appropriate meals.  I do not think that the US Chapter waives the
registration for seminar speakers, other than to their own seminars.

>Tony Arnold,
>DECUS Europe SIG Council Chairman.

Nice to see that in the other chapters, DECUS leaders are aware of the
organization of the society on a global scale :-)

-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:59:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: spcvxb.1992Oct12.105946.4095
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Oct12.030032.25790@umbc3.umbc.edu>, klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler) writes:
> However, there is something that DEXPO can do, to give them a
> competative edge.  Historically DECUS (excuse me, the US Chapter of
> DECUS) has consistantly refused to offer any honoraria to their seminar
> speakers (of course, the presenters from DEC's Ed Services are DEC
> Employees, to they are another case entirely).  The seminar speakers
> for the other DECUS Chapters (Europe, Canada, GIA, etc.) do receive
> honoraria, in some cases based on the number of attendees that the
> seminar attracts.  While I do not know the arrangement that DEXPO has
> made with their non-DEC presenters, I would be more than willing to bet
> that there is an honorarium involved.  How 

As it has already been pointed out this is not TTI's first attempt to compete
with DECUS Seminars.  They have offered dollars before and they are offering
dollars now.  It seems almost most all the DECUS seminars speakers are willing
to do this for reasons other than dollars.  The ones who were dollar motivated 
left long ago...

-- 

Jeff Killeen - DECUS NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org

DECUS is the user group for folks interested Digital Equipment style computing.
The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus,biz.dec.turbochannel,comp.sys.dec,biz.dec.workstations
From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller For TurboChannel?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
	<AJC.92Oct8175014@thendara.pa.dec.com>
	<1992Oct10.041726.6164@cognos.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Oct 92 09:15:03



In article <1992Oct10.041726.6164@cognos.com> maklinm@cognos.com (Max Maklin) 
writes:


>> Also, Eugene, if you can hang on, for say, a few months or so I think you
>> may be finding some very interesting storage solutions from Digital along
>> the lines you may be looking at.  I believe this is what AJ is implying
>> from Digital's end of things, but he and many of us are unfortuneately
>> sworn to secrecy :)

>> Max
>> -- 
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>> Technical Analyst	                           3755 Riverside Drive
>> Cognos Incorporated                              Ottawa, Ontario CANADA
>> Internet: maklinm@cognos.COM                 UUNet: maklinm@cognos.UUCP

Max,

  True. I was implying (actually, I thought that I was stating) that there is
some work going on in that direction. That's about as far as I can go without
running afoul of the "Corporate Thought Police" in any case. Any product or
schedule information that I post has to come from Product Management.

  Our (read TRI/ADD's) relationship with Third Party companies is such that
we don't release any information about membership/products/schedules without
written permission from the company (we won't even tell other DEC folks about
it...a policy that is not always popular internally). So, the best I can offer
to do is to forward your interest to the company involved and see if they are
willing to talk to you.

  I hope that makes things a little clearer.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does."
							=The Princess Bride=


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      * 529 Bryant Ave. PAG-2		 rather, which of my personalities *
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus,biz.dec.turbochannel,comp.sys.dec,biz.dec.workstations
From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller For TurboChannel?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:50:14



In article <1992Oct8.174241.4068@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov 
(Eugene Chu) writes:


>>Hello,

>>I hope someone who is in the know can help me with this.  I am looking for
>>a Wide SCSI controller for the TurboChannel on a DS5000/240.  I know that
>>DEC, and perhaps some third party, makes an 8 bit SCSI-2 controller for
>>the TC.  What I need is a controller that has the second connector on
>>it for 16 or 32 bit wide data paths.  I think these things exist for the
>>VME bus, and even the SUN S-Bus.  If anyone has any information on this,
>>I would greatly appreciate letting me know.

>>thanks in advance.
>>eyc
>>-- 

Eugene,

  There is currently only the 8bit Single Ended version of SCSI Host Adapter
for the TURBOchannel. There are further developments coming both from Third
Parties and from DEC. You are far more likely to see FAST DIFFERENTIAL SCSI
before you see FAST WIDE DIFFERENTIAL SCSI and I don't currently know of any
development for 16bit SCSI that is being considered that is not also using
differential signalling (meaning you would require a differentially signalled
storage device). 

   NOTE: To my own usage	Standard SCSI  =  8bit
				WIDE SCSI      = 16bit
				VERY WIDE SCSI = 32bit

Just to avoid any confusion as to what I said...

  If you would like, I can pass your name along to the Third party involved
and see if they are willing to talk to you in advance?

I hope that helps.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


      **********************************************************************
      * AJ Casamento			"The question is not whether or    *
      * Digital's TRI/ADD Program	 not the opinions are mine; but    *
      * 529 Bryant Ave. PAG-2		 rather, which of my personalities *
      * Palo Alto, CA 94301-1616	 do they belong to?"		   *
      * 415.617.3460							   *
      * ajc@pa.dec.com  						   *
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.032044.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.030032.25790@umbc3.umbc.edu>, klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler) writes:
>> 
>> However, there is something that DEXPO can do, to give them a
>> competative edge.  Historically DECUS (excuse me, the US Chapter of
>> DECUS) has consistantly refused to offer any honoraria to their seminar
>> speakers (of course, the presenters from DEC's Ed Services are DEC
>> Employees, to they are another case entirely).  The seminar speakers
>> for the other DECUS Chapters (Europe, Canada, GIA, etc.) do receive
>> honoraria, in some cases based on the number of attendees that the
>> seminar attracts.
>
>???? I have never heard of the .AU chapter paying presenters. They do pick
>up the tab for the speaker and generaly include registration. Invited speakers
>from overseas may be an exception.
>

That is correct.  Gordon Brimble pointed that out to me a few days ago,
but due to the problems that this system is/was having, I was not able
to get in and amend my posting.  


-- 
                Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: "The New DEXPO Seminar"
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:34:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: beckman.1992Oct9.083453.1007
Organization: Beckman Instruments

In article <1992Oct9.011736.13365@umbc3.umbc.edu>, klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler) writes:
> 
> I find it odd that no one has mentioned the seminar flyer that DEXPO has
> sent out.  I know that a few of you have received it, since I did
> discuss it with members of the DECUS Canada BoD last weekend in
> Vancouver.  Although DEXPO has offered "sessions" during the DEXPO
> exhibition, this is the first time, to my knowledge, that they are
> offering formal seminars.  

I don't view them as new.  Although this is, I believe, the first time these
seminars are under the DEXPO umbrella, the players (such as Dan Esbensen) are
the same ones as for the TTI seminars offered opposite the seminars at some
prior symposia.

>The dates place them exactly opposite the
> DECUS Seminar program in Las Vegas.  What I find interesting, and
> disturbing is that of the 13 seminars that are being offered over the 2
> days, seven (7) of them are being presented by Digital.  I find this
> rather odd, since Digital's Educational Services is a major presenter of
> DECUS Seminars.

Now that is disturbing, if true.  I did not notice this when I (briefly)
glanced at the offerings.
> 
> Could this be the first formal salvo in the trade show wars betweeen
> DECUS and DEXPO?
> 
Hardly.  I would view the first formal salvo being the meetings held at the
last two DEXPO's of the vendors to discuss this.  I might call this the first
formal product offering beyond DEXPO's traditional.

One interesting thing is that apparently NETSIG offered some of their seminars
to this venue after they were rejected by seminars committee.  It seems NET
felt they were valuable enough to be offered, but seminars couldn't fit them
in.  I understand NET got a little grief over that, but it's all second hand
for me.

As far as I'm concerned, if they can successfully compete, let them.  DECUS
should not attempt to be a monopoly, and if someone else can successfully
compete, DECUS can look to other areas to fulfill their mission.
> -- 
>                 Kurt Reisler (UNISIG Chair, DECUS US Chapter)
> 		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
> 		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
> 	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
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From: ctp@cs.utexas.edu (Clyde T. Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: DECUS U.S. Chapter Symposium - UNIX Sessions
Date: 8 Oct 1992 19:17:09 -0500
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: lisboa.cs.utexas.edu

For Immediate Release
For More Information
Paul Murphy
(508) 841-3346
October 8, 1992



	 					    BACKGROUND FOR EDITORS




                     DECUS FALL 1992 SEMINARS/SYMPOSIUM
                TO FEATURE A VARIETY OF UNIX-RELATED SESSIONS



Computing professionals working with UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems and 
tools will find a variety of sessions geared toward their needs during the 
DECUS U.S. Chapter's Fall 1992 Seminars and Symposium programs, December 5 - 
11, in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The DECUS UNISIG, the Chapter's UNIX focused Special Interest Group, and 
Digital's Customer Training Group will present a combined slate of 8 one- and 
two-day seminars on December 5 and 6. In addition the UNISIG will sponsor a 
total of 80 UNIX-related symposium sessions during the symposium week, 
December 7 - 11. 


Sessions will cover such topics as:

	 * Introduction to UNIX basics
	 * UNIX philosophy
	 * Management of ULTRIX systems
	 * Communications tools in ULTRIX
	 * ULTRIX security
	 * Transitioning from VMS to ULTRIX

In response to a growing demand for information on Digital's 64-bit Alpha 
platform, the UNISIG will present sessions dealing with OSF/1 on the 21064 
architecture, as well as sessions detailing techniques used in porting from 
ULTRIX on a 32-bit MIPS chip, to OSF/1 on the 64-bit Alpha platform.

The diverse offerings presented during the weeklong format of the DECUS 
seminars and symposium programs allow attendees to participate in sessions 
within their primary interest area as well as to explore new areas of 
interest. Forums such as Special Interest Group Campgrounds allow attendees 
to meet in an informal atmosphere.

DECUS seminars and symposium attendees have the opportunity to solve their 
current computing problems, learn new methods of dealing with everyday 
situations, explore new applications and technological advances, and to make 
contact with their peers in the computer industry.

                                     ###


Note to Editors: Members of the U.S. Chapter's Leadership and Special 
Interest Groups may be contacted for additional comments. To arrange 
interviews, or to find out more information contact Paul Murphy at (508) 
841-3346.

DECUS, the DECUS logo, ULTRIX, and VMS are trademarks of Digital Equipment 
Corporation.

MIPS is a trademark of MIPS Computer Systems.

OSF/1 is a registered trademark of Open Software Foundation, Inc.

UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc.
Xref: sparky comp.org.decus:862 comp.os.vms:16283 comp.sys.dec:5379
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: membership into DECUS
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:42:07 -0500

{> Excuse me, but have you just recently returned from an off-planet
 
> vacation?  I had thought that it was well know what Kevin did to so
 
> annoy Digital.  Ray Kaplan can tell you about it, or you can just go
 
> out and buy or borrow a copy of "Cyberpunk" and read it for yourself.
 
 
 
1.  I had little or no exposure to this {other than incidental reports,
 
    the only thing I noticed about it is that Decus gave him a refund
 
    while in its catalog it states clearly that refunds will not be
 
    granted under any circumstances.
 
 
 
2.  Since Mitnick apparently, based on the information that I was
 
    told, committed a criminal act against Digital, it could 
 
    impose an interdict upon him.  
 
 
 
3.  I'm not going to spend good money or waste time reading a book I
 
    have no interest in and also am informed is badly done and 
 
    weak in the subject matter.
 
 
 
4.  I am getting just a little sick and tired of people flaming
 
    someone because they ask a question or pose a comment and the
 
    person in question doesn't know the whole story.  Some of us
 
    are completely unaware of what is going on; some people are
 
    very well informed.   
 
 
 
    One time on this BBS's Firearms conference, I asked a question
 
    about the movie "Day of the Jackal" and "The Exterminator" and
 
    "Jaws" where they all created explosive bullets using mercury
 
    and in Jackal they discussed mercury vs. glycerine, and I wanted
 
    to know what the difference was.
 
 
 
    The Moderator flamed me for asking this type of question.  I
 
    am rather upset at being chewed out for not knowing every 
 
    (expletive deleted) issue in every context.



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