HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:26:50 EDT
From: <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Drop Acid

I saw this a few months ago in a record store and bought it(Liked the name)
-Making God Smile.  Anyway, I was wondering if this band ever put out
anything else under the same name or any other name.  They (Oh god I hate to
say this) have that grungy sound that Nirvana suddenly made very famous.
The reason I hate to say that is that now everybody (in the mainstream)
thinks that Nirvana is the most representative of alternative music, when
there are so many better bands out there with a distinctive sound, too.
Just my $0.02.


P.S.  I hate Weird Al, how about you?  He just extended himself to new
horizons of cheesiness on his cover of Nirvana.  Ugh.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights)
Subject: Re: The Charlatans/Charlatans U.K. HELP!
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:59:27 GMT

tshay@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy B Shay) writes:

>	Are 'the Charlatans' and 'the Charlatans U.K.' the same band?  I
>see imports marked 'The Charlatans' and I'm not sure if they 
>are the same band.  If so, WHY?  If not, what do the Charlatans sound
>like?

They're the same band; When a band name has "UK" in it, it's to prevent
problems with another band, usually without a record label, with the same
name.  I assume that's the case with the Charlatans.  Their new CD single
has dropped the UK.
The new single, "Weirdo," has the same sort of sound: organ-heavy 60's-ish
sounding music with a very infectious rhythm, almost hip hop.  The singing
isn't as interesting as on "Some Friendly," and I think they've lost or
replaced their old guitar player.

Arlen
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Bands and labels you may have never heard of...
Keywords: bands music fine art
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:26:15 GMT

olsonr@acf3.nyu.edu (Ron the Carboard Box) writes:

>Wir - the first letter
>(Mute Records)

I'm surprised no one else has commented on this one.  Wir used to be Wire
(they dropped the letter when a band member quit).  _It's_Beginning_To_
_and_Back_Again_ (Mute/Enigma) is a good career retrospective [as of 1989,
anyway] consisting of rerecordings of old songs and a couple new tracks.
Other albums are in print and fairly easily available.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails
Keywords: NIN
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:00:49 GMT

storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:

>>used to work with Trent's girlfriend, how's that for a reliable source of
>>information;-), and informs me that he is, in fact, an "asshole". Oh well,

>	Considering the number of bands that have quit on him, I would
>have to agree.  On the lollapolooza (sp?) tour, there were a lot of people
>in the audience who were somewhat appalled at the way he treated them...

When I met Trent Reznor at the Salt Lake City show, the conversation went like
this:

Trent: This pen isn't any good.  Let me get a better one.

Pete: Thanks.

I should note that his tone wasn't angry or rude, but pleasant and helpful.
Thus, I believe that maybe Trent isn't an asshole.  However, my friend's
sister's friend's brother's friend mentioned that he pissed in a hot-tub later
that evening and told his band to copulate with themselves.

Then there was that whole FLA thing.


In contrast, my conversation with Jim Thirlwell went like this (during the
concert):

Pete (drunken stupor): I WANNNA HEAAAR BEDROCK!!!

Jim: You don't deserve it.

This may lead you to believe that in fact, the Foetus we know and love is an
asshole.  However, I understand that he is normally quite nice when not being
screamed at by drunk students.  I should note that he did play "Bedrock".
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: orange@alfred.carleton.ca (Paul Vallee)
Subject: Nirvana ripped off the riff to "Smells like Teen Spirit"
Summary: That's right...  they didn't write it!
Keywords: theft, dishonesty, rippoff, copyright violation, sue, sue, sue
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:14:39 GMT

People out there should take a listen to a song released three years ago
by a Montreal band called the "Men without Hats", called "Sideways".  

The guitar riff at the beginning of Nirvana's song, and throughout it
at intervals, is *EXACTLY* the same, to a point that I would litigate.
Request the song from your local radio station and judge for yourself.
All comments appreciated, send to orange@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca

Paul

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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Metallica Tour '92   Re: Get a life
Date: 5 Apr 92 21:21:24 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Mar31.121224.6355@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>I disagree.  The Cure used to have an edge, but have lost it.  In my 
>opinion they have turned into a bunch of poseurs interested in one thing
>money. 

Not true: in a Melody Maker interview with Smith (June '91), he said the
cure recorded 10 songs "last year" and only released "never enough" because
the others he didn't feel were high enough quality....

If you've never heard "never enough" you  ought to. It's on an ep with
harold and joe, and let's go to bed. It's also on mixed up. 

>... music still has an edge to it.  If the cure keep progressing at the rate
>they've been they'll be producing elevator music in a few years. 

This may be true, but it still doesn't follw that they're doing it for
the dollars (or pounds).  8-)

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
 No  no  no don't stop, I mean, I must be dreaming,  I'll just hold you
 I'm just about to drop, you thrill me with your screaming, I adore you
                                                  - The Wedding Present
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: alt.music.alternative.except.n.i.n
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:27:30 GMT
 <1992Apr14.022600.26094@muddcs.claremont.edu> 
 <1992Apr14.025158.20172@uwm.edu> 
 <1992Apr14.034200.14034@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>  
 <mcdonghj.703349515@unix2.tcd.ie>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <mcdonghj.703349515@unix2.tcd.ie>
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:

> >(Followups to rec.music.industrial et al.)
> 
> No here is the first place you say something intelligent.
> One problem with this news group is that it gets a lot of posts from people
> who don't know the NET very well.
> 
> Alt. Gothic is for Gothic Music.. Sisters, Neph, Siouxie, Bauhaus etc.
> rec.music.industrial is where discussion of NIN , Skinny Puppy,
> 						Ministry etc.

...and my impression was that a.m.a was for all of the above and
more...

(Actually, I wish this NIN thread would die too - I think the
productive and intelligent discussion ended long ago.  I just don't
want to see people flamed because SOM or Skinny Puppy doesn't belong in
a.m.a since they have their own group.  Crosspost intelligently, but by
all means do crosspost!)

Interesting and related side note:  You get flamed if you postabout NIN
on r.m.i, too.  (I speak from experience.)

 - nathan
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Washington D.C. Bands
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:47:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.200335.24723@muddcs.claremont.edu> rwyatt@niji.claremont.edu (Robert Wyatt) writes:
[...]
>Has anyone out there heard of SB ?  If so, what do you think ?  If  
>not, would you like to know more ?
[...]

yes, I have heard of Strange Boutique, and have the 7" and the CD.
The CD has been out since last August or so, by the way.  It's not so
new.

Yeah, i would describe them as dark pop, or Gothic pop.  Very moody
stuff, but with a pop feel.  I definitely like it.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Residents
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:17:02 GMT

BTW, The Residents are supposed to be doing a radio appearance on KPFA in 
Berkeley on Arpil 27th at 9am, or so I heard. They are celebrating their new
2Oth Anniversary and rumor is they may have a new release to debut. Hey, they
might even unmask themselves to those radio viewers. Y'never know...

  - malcolm@wrs.com  
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jandreas@cs.ulowell.edu (Jason Andreas)
Subject: Re: Theories on Simulated Flight
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:10:46 GMT

This really doesn't belong here, but my roommate from last semester worked
a David Copperfield show doing lighting-stage setup at the Lowell Auditorium.
Anyway, he was the only person who didn't sign a non-disclosure about how
the tricks were performed, i will ask him for details about his tricks tonight.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: igj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Glen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Drop Acid - the group
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:23:07 GMT

Haven't heard the disc and dont trust Kevin as much as I used to (When I was 13 I would buy anything that had his name on it).
When I last saw 7 Seconds (in oct or nov) Kevin was really excited about Crop Acid, but he said 7 Seconds was still gonna be slogging along and might even put out an album soon. We'll see. I haven't really liked anything since New Wind (well, maybe one song on Soulforce Revolution) so I wouldn't expect too much. Then again, they did play an incredibly fun and energetic set (although they played nothing at all before "walk Together, Rock Together").

Just my two bits...













-I-
From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: "Temple of Love" - Sisters remix ???
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:55:25 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

Heard on BBC Radio 1 several times recently; A version of the Sisters
of Mercy's "Temple of Love", with Ofra Haza providing backing vocals.
I believe it's officially known as Temple of Love (Touched by the hand
of Ofra Haza). I should add that it still sounds like Eldritch on
vocals.

Does anyone know whether this is a remix, or a re-recording, or what??

KDA
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: itreleav@banana.csil.sfu.ca (Ian Anthony Treleaven)
Subject: Re: stage diving
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:04:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.203304.12729@cis.ohio-state.edu>  
bohren@cypress.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren) writes:
> 
> When it comes to stage diving, I've noticed that some bands are strictly
> against their crowd diving off the stage, while others encourage or even
> participate in the activities. Here's a quick list of each category from
> my own experience, or eye-witness testimony:
> 
The singer for Soundgarden jumped into and rolled around on top of the crowd
a couple of times at their show in Vancouver a month ago.  A number of people
were jumping, which was pretty good considering there was a barier two feet
from the stage!

_______________________________________________________________________________
  Ian Treleaven            | No matter where you go, there you are.
  itreleav@sfu.ca          |                                   -Buckaroo Banzai
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kkoller@isis.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Subject: Re: DEAD MILKMEN - new album ???
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 02:44:14 GMT

Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:


>I just saw the new Dead Milkmen album - _Soul Rotation_ - in the local
>music store.  Has anyone heard it?  Any impressions??  Please post.

>If no-one beats me to it I'll post a review later in the week (I intend
>to own the disc less than ten minutes after receiving my paycheck this
>Friday).

I won't review it, other than to say it is different than most all
of their previous work.  The small-town theme is almost dead.

The Conspiracy theme is 100% now.  Very interesting.

Also, almost all songs are done by the guy that sings "Punk Rock Girl," 
"The Guitar," and the other whiney ones.  I personally think they should
have gone more for the mix between the two, but it works.

Also, more of a "down" feeling than MetaPhysical Graffiti.


>- nathan
>  really lame milkhead with nothing better to do in new hampshire
--
Self Expression is the Ultimate Key...
Kurtis J. Koller
kkoller@isis.cs.du.edu
From: n110fy@tamuts.tamu.edu (Donyelly Specks)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: dv8 - PREVIEW
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:12:16 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <garncarz.702376695@sfu.ca> garncarz@fraser.sfu.ca (dAREK G.) writes:
>
>
>there's a new industrial-house-but-not-acid-house band out named "dv8".
>i have heard a few songs, but their stuff is still in the studio - unreleased.
>they  really kick butt. they're like 242 with house... the only song with a
>name so far is "evil.2.work".  i kinda got my hands on a demo tape.  if anyone
>wants to know more...ask.
>they're a mix of 242/njoi/tricky-disco/front line assembly !!!
>
>dAREK

Hey DAREK,

My names Don and I work for an alternative radio station at Texas A&M.
I add the new dance, industrial, house, and techno band albums to
our station.  dv8 sounds like a damn kicking band.  I also handle promo
give-aways at local dance clubs and concerts, such as the SWANS and
MACHINES of LOVE and GRACE on April 17, and MC 900 FOOT JESUS later
in the month.  So if you could send me three demo tapes, I could try
to get you some air time in the Bryan/College Station area, and in
some dance clubs.

The address is:

               KANM/c.o. Don Specks (dance)
               PO Box 377
 	       College Station, TX 77841

Phone # is:    (409)847-0932
                    -or-
               (409)845-5923

                                        -Don Specks (n110fy@tamuts.tamu.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ae631@yfn.ysu.edu (David Moore)
Subject: TMBG LIST
Reply-To: ae631@yfn.ysu.edu (David Moore)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:31:13 GMT


Help,
 Can someone please tell me how to be ADDED to the TMBG list.
I'm on the list, but a couple friends want to be added and
I'm not sure of the exact REQUEST mail address. Thanks in advance!
DM
-- 
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From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Subject: Re: Opal (Was: mazzy star info desired)
In-reply-to: reynhout@cs.uri.edu's message of 7 Apr 92 07:12:43 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine
	<1992Apr4.000038.18225@news.eng.convex.com>
	<1992Apr7.071243.4705@cs.uri.edu>
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:13:51 GMT


      Does anyone have any other info on pre- or post-Opal work by Kendra Smith,
   or pre-Mazzy Star work by Hope Sandoval?  (It's much easier to find David
   Roback stuff.)  
      The only recording I am aware of with Kendra or Hope, other than the above,
   is an album called "Rainy Day."  I originally noticed it because I recognized
   David Roback's handwriting on the cover.  It's a relatively old (1984)
   compilation with David and Kendra, as well as Susanna Hoffs and Michael
   Quercio. (Rough Trade...again, I don't know who owns it (if anyone) now.)
   The liner notes seem to indicate that Kendra Smith appears courtesy of Slash
   Records.  Anyone with more info?

      Thanks,
      Andrew
      <reynhout@cs.uri.edu>

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Kendra Smith was also the original bass player for the Dream Syndicate and
appears on their first album "The Days Of Wine And Roses." as well as an
EP that came out around 1983-1984.  She was still a member of the Dream
Syndicate when Rainy Day came out.

-Chris
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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Paleface
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:19:20 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Apr7.174017.26380@athena.mit.edu> charlie@isis.mit.edu (Charles Fulton) writes:
>Has anyone out there heard the recently released album by Paleface?
>Although it's on Polydor, it's also produced by Kramer, so I imagine
>this fellow must have some material released on Shimmy Disc as well.
>I'm not much on this recent intense singer/songwriter pop trend (like
>Matthew Sweet) & I'm curious to know if Paleface packs more punch than
>the others, what with his Kramer/Danny Fields tutelage ---charlie

I like the new Paleface cd. I *don't* like singer/acoustic guitar
combos in general (!).

For some reason I kept being reminded of Exene Cervanka's _Running Sacred_.
Exene was in X, of course. Her solo albums are a bit more acoustic...

I think the common thread must be interesting chord structures, lyrics,
more unique singing styles....   otherwise the "folky" stuff
can get pretty tired pretty soon.

Paleface is from Losaida, I gather (lower Eastside of NYC) and
it's pretty gritty there. I know some squatters there.

Did any of that help 8-)  ?

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
       Peanut butter and jelly and slices of pizza
       and a teenage nervous breakdown named Louisa  - Paleface
From: sneal@cad607.intel.edu (Scott Neal)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: monkeywrench anyone?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:53:32 GMT
Organization: Corporate CAD, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Mar31.032409.29903@muddcs.claremont.edu>, mtrnka@jarthur.claremont.edu (Sven) writes:
|> Has anyone heard monkeywrench, the mudhoney side project with Mark Arm
|> and Steve turner and some other people yet?  Any good?
|> 
|> 		Sven
|> 		mtrnka@jarthur.claremont.edu

YES!  GO GET IT!  A friend of mine even likes it better than Mudhoney
(I wouldn't go that far...)
-- 


					Scott Neal
					sneal@scdt.intel.com

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkerenyi@jarthur.claremont.edu (John A. Kerenyi)
Subject: Re: stage diving
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:55:54 GMT

schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

>bohren@cypress.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren) writes:


>>When it comes to stage diving, I've noticed that some bands are strictly
>>against their crowd diving off the stage, while others encourage or even
>>participate in the activities. Here's a quick list of each category from
>>my own experience, or eye-witness testimony:

>>Against: The Violent Femmes(they walked off stage due to it)
>>         The Pixies
>>         Social Distortion

>>For:     Too Much Joy(their dummer dived a number of times)
>>         Fishbone
>>         Body Count(guessing from the video for There Goes the Neighborhood)

>I saw The Psychedelic Furs in Vancouver a couple of months ago.
>It was a great concert. Everybody was having a great time. Anybody who
>wanted to stage dive could do so. During the finale, as many as 20
>people at a time were on stage singing along and stage diving.

>It was very joyous concert.

You can enter "Oingo Boingo" in the category of "against." If Danny feels
too many people are climbing up, he'll take time between songs to tell people
not to do it.

jk
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:3506 rec.music.industrial:5425
From: nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails : - GE explains it all for you
Summary: The year is 1999
Keywords: NIN
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:36:01 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr17.032618.24916@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support) writes:
>
  [Extremely articulate explanation of INXS-NIN parallel deleted]
>
>Just remember one thing.  For some of us, we populate a zone filled with
>people like Morthund.  Phallus Dei.  Asmus Teichens.  In Slaughter Natives.
                                            ^^^^^^^^
 -----------------------------------> Asmus Teitchens (he he he - sorry...)
                                               ^
>to be inhabiting a remote corner of your musical landscape, so be it.  But
>music exists on an *absolute* scale - and if "Industrial" parameterizes a
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  O venerable elder, please explain this statement!!

 -Chris Teixeira
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