HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.greek
Subject: The Scarlet Letter
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
>On the off chance that the AppleOfOurEye might like to accompany us
>on trips abroad, I called the Passport Office to ask about adding her
>name to my passport. Apparently this is impossible because a) her
...
>In order for the child to have a Greek passport, the Greek embassy
>claim that the mother must personally go to register the birth in
>Athens, filling in ``unknown'' in the space reserved for ``father's

Which goes to prove that when it comes to brainless paper pushers,
Greece has complete parity with its western neighbours, and vice-versa.

>a business meeting without her parents. But it does raise the question
>of how to sit her in the Photo-Me booth, particularly since she is less
>than three weeks old and can't support her own head. And should the

My first attempt at taking a passport photo for my son involved letting
him lay flat face-up on the bed. His mother attracted his attention,
while I went to work with the Polaroid. The pictures came out good,
except that when we got to the post office, they would not accept
them, because the background was a soft brown, while US regulations
clearly specify Deep Blue. Go figure... Went home, changed the sheets,
repeated the procedure, all OK.

>three weeks old and can't support her own head. And should the photo be
>with, or without nappies? I'm sure there's an EC regulation on this.

EEC regulation 234/82ss8#4 specifies the color of nappies on passports
and other official documents, in reference to the European Standard
Colors Table (DGY12/31) as modified by the Aachen Treaty on Chromatic
Unity (ATCU), currently pending ratification.

>
>If anyone has any ideas on how to circumvent this Kafka-esque
>situation, I'd be glad to hear from them!!

 Have you considered adopting your daughter? I don't know about British
law, but it sounds like it might be the way to clear up the situation,
and to establish your legal rights as the child's guardian, say
(g.d forbid) something happens to the mother.

  You may even want to examine both Greek and British law to determine
which is more favorable to you in this case.

Good Luck,

Michael.
From: library@prg.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: People who say they'll do you a favour (favor)
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:02:39 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3


My car needs a bit of work done to it. A garage quoted 1500 pounds for a new
engine. I blanched at that. Took it away from the garage because a guy at
work said he had a mate who could help. 

That was 4 weeks ago. These guys never seem to talk. They haven't contacted
each other for weeks it seems.

Peeve: being so technically incapable that I find the courtesy light inside the
car too complicated to fix!

Gordon
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Debugging the group
Followup-To: rec.guns
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Nov17.185239.27473@twg.com> <BxvuKq.B1p@cs.dal.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:41:55 GMT

<In article <BxvuKq.B1p@cs.dal.ca> smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:

<  If it's Steve Franklin, I suggest large bore semi-automatic weapons
<  (not automatics because they're illegal in Canada).


	A whole slew of semi-automatics were declared
	"unCanadian" this year.

ObPeeve: banning inanimate objects which are "ugly"  even
	 though they are functionally identical to other
	 nonbanned objects.

<   If it's me, I'll be fetching my body armour now...

	Yeah, right; like it's legal to own THAT in Kanada.

ObPeeve: Poser and posers.
From: tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Academic Perversions
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:21:15 GMT
Organization: Up the,
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.orst.edu
Summary: Execution
Keywords: Losers

In article <1dtb8kINNe5e@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
>I recently peeved about a certain breed of academics who do computer
>modeling of processes which are not fully understood.  For instance, people
>
>Which poses an interesting conundrum to him.  Because computer programs tend
>to have bugs in them.  He is left with the question: is his program failing
>because it has a bug, is it failing because it was not tweaked enough, or is
>it failing because his ideas are totally hokey?  He does not know what the
>results would be if his computer program were working, so he cannot debug it
>in the normal fashion.  Instead he must go over his code again and again,
>looking for errors.

An outbreak of dangerous instability in newsservers, as well as the
pricks who maintain them has left me reluctant to attempt posting, but
you've touched on a subject near and dear to my resume.  You neglected
one possibility:  selectively choosing the real world data so as to
optimize the models agreement. (Not that I would ever stoop to such a 
level)  On the other hand, personal experience wise, once said modeler
has come within a stone's throw of the data, he can begin sitting back,
collecting the old paycheck, making "improvements" to the model.  Played
correctly, this process could keep you paid for the rest of your life.
I've seen some old guys around here actually become respected for it.

Obpeeve: Has anyone seen the commercial where the man says, "When she's
running, I expect her to sweat, but not when we're close.  Buy Arrid XX"
Hey, lady, this guy has some strange ideas about sex, I think you need
one more X in your love life.  Dry and odorless sex.  You may as well 
demand that it be quiet and involve no contact so as to avoid mussing 
the hair.

"Oh, I'm sorry Karl, I'll be sure to shower and put on deodorant before
getting in bed with you, I'd hate for a little body odor to ruin the 
magical experience of that first enema."


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Tim Mefford           |           "vidi, veni"      
  tim@physics.orst.edu      |    -Julius Caesar on Cleopatra
________________________________________________________________
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: JENNY'S LESSON IN FLAMING (was Re: the Devil's Day (and the Devil's Night))
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:38:59 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <BxoEB7.MHD@cs.dal.ca> williams@ug.cs.dal.ca (Nevin E. Williams)
writes:
>>>will be inhabited entirely by raving poofters.  You have been warned...
>>
>>Oh good.
>>
>>We needed to redecorate the place anyway.
>
>Honey, I don't do decor.  Rebuild your engine maybe, but not decor.
>	Nevie

Good god, you're a homosexual AND you're twice the man that I am.  If you
went to any school other than Dalhousie I might even respect you. :) :)

   don
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Re: The long-awaited GIF of Bill (yeah, sure)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:55:29 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust


Hey, you look *just like* this guy I used to know!
-- 
"Society sucks. Pay it no mind." - Cynthia Heimel
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:17401 rec.motorcycles:39858
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fucking BDI motorcycle drivers
Date: 20 Nov 1992 05:59:22 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <Bxu8J1.5nG@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe) writes:
>In article <1e9bk3INN8tn@roche.csl.sri.com> mhunt@csl.sri.com
(Mike Hunt) writes:

>>I have a method that drives tailgaters nuts, but is not
>>so dangerous as slowing to 20 MPH on the expressway
>
>Or you could get a British car: if they're not so fast that no one can
>keep up with them, then they're leaking oil or coolant and no one wants to
>get close.

I was once riding with a friend in his British car (TR4A)
when he tried a variation of The Method.

We stopped at a light with the tailgater behind us.  Green
light; my friend accelerates up to the speed limit as fast
as the Triumph will go, then takes his foot off the gas to
cruise at 35 MPH.  Tailgater comes fishtailing by in the
next lane, sideswipes the Triumph on the way past.  He
thought we wanted to race.

And we got the chance to really get to know a really choice
BDI!  The tailgater was the janitor for a local beauticians'
school, who'd gotten a reputation for cornering the
students in the boiler room.  Until they banded together
and rat-packed him one evening, and threatened him with the
loss of certain much-beloved appendages unless he
straightened up.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:17128 talk.politics.guns:24164
From: gray@hawkmoon.mn.org (Bill Gray)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Grad school problems
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:01:38 GMT
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA

drool@wetware.com (drool, just drool) writes:

>I think folks, that there is a clear and pressing
>social need which we who are currently the stanard
>bearers in this profession need to address and resolve
>for the younger crowd of young college kids who will,
>alas, some day become our professional peers.

[balance of drool's hoplophobic fantasy deleted in the interests of Mercy.]

C'mon, drool, get a life, will you?

Harsh a reality as it may be, most folks on t.p.g are bored by your
boorishness and offended at the unmitigated waste of bandwidth anything
coming from you has for so long proved to be.

Bill
-- 
gray@hawkmoon.mn.org
This site gets a fair news feed, but e-mail is more reliable. . . :-(
"Veni, vidi, vomiti!"  -- the ghost of Tom Jefferson on reading the Brady Bill
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: fucking BDI motorcycle drivers
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:34:04 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Nov17.214730.29105@twg.com>, rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls) writes:
|> In article <1e9bk3INN8tn@roche.csl.sri.com> mhunt@csl.sri.com (Mike Hunt) writes:
|> >
|> >  << playing tag with tailgaters deleted>>
|> 
|> Another method of discouraging tailgaters is to start weaving back and forth
|> in your lane of traffic. The tailgaters probably think that you are crazy
|> and dont want to be to close in case you have a fit or something. If it is
|> night when a tailgater is riding on your rear fender, keep a nice even speed
|> and push the center stand down until it contacts the road. This throws off
|> a wonderful spray of sparks. The stupid cager thinks that you are about to
|> explode and backs off.

yes!  i recommend this.  not for scaring tailgaters as much as for spraying
sparks at the other people you're riding with.  few things are as cool as
weaving back and forth at 100mph trying to keep your friends from passing
you while laughing and spraying them with sparks!  chicks dig it, too.
especially passenger chicks. :P

"Ride fast.  Take chances.
 We're cool, you're not."   - CMRC Motto (Pete and Axel version, anyway)

axel
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.greek
Subject: The Scarlet Letter
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:25:37 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

On the off chance that the AppleOfOurEye might like to accompany us
on trips abroad, I called the Passport Office to ask about adding her
name to my passport. Apparently this is impossible because a) her
mother is Greek and b) we are not married, and hence she is not a
British Citizen. The passport people suggested that she could become a
British Citizen by ``registration'', but when I called the Naturalization
Office (or whatever it's called), they told me that she couldn't register
as a British citizen because she was born ``out of wedlock'' (their words,
not mine). The only thing to do was to get married and ``legitimise'' the
birth. Now I may be wrong, but I thought that Queen Victoria had been
off the throne a good many years now, so I'm surprised to hear this
terminology, not to mention the disgusting holier-than-thou morality it
conceals.

In order for the child to have a Greek passport, the Greek embassy claim
that the mother must personally go to register the birth in Athens,
filling in ``unknown'' in the space reserved for ``father's name''. They
would then issue her a SEPARATE passport. That should prove pretty useful
for her on those occasions when she has to dip across to the States for
a business meeting without her parents. But it does raise the question of
how to sit her in the Photo-Me booth, particularly since she is less than
three weeks old and can't support her own head. And should the photo be 
with, or without nappies? I'm sure there's an EC regulation on this.

If anyone has any ideas on how to circumvent this Kafka-esque situation,
I'd be glad to hear from them!!

(before hitting the F key, look at the ``newsgroups'' line, which I claim
is a first in bizarreness!!)
-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

"I have to scan these posts in case Jeremy includes some line
out of context in his .sig" - FriendOfFernandoKhomeini.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: People who say they'll do you a favour (favor)
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:15:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.115715.9599@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell) writes:
>>>My car needs a bit of work done to it. A garage quoted 1500 pounds for a new
>>>engine. I blanched at that. Took it away from the garage because a guy at
>>>work said he had a mate who could help. 
>>
>>Holy heck, that's heavy.  How many of you did it take to lift it? :)
>
>Lifted it! Lifted it! Are you pulling my chain, Don.

Nope, I'll leave it to Madonna to do that.

>I suppose it would be what you there critters would call a map light. But we
>Brits being a kinder, gentler set of folks call they courtesy lights. Maybe
>because they come on automatically when one opens a car door to let someone
>see where they are about to sit. See courtesy!

Courtesy?  Heh.  We don't get that here...

>Yet another cultural barrier crushed. Nation shall speak unto nation.

Right.  The only problem is that they usually say dumb things like "This is
my Line of Death, cross it at your peril!".

   don
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin)
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:17:08 GMT
Organization: Atheist for the Development of a Better God

In article <1992Nov15.211413.14994@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Nice.  Try "cancel" sometime, when you get that far up the alphabet.  
Peeve: I can't cancel articles. Not even my own. Why? I don't know. It
just complains that  am not allowed to cancel someone else's article,
whether that article is someone else's or not. 

FurtherPeeve: 
	"Well, this project is due in a week, I should get started on it."
		"Can't. I've got work to do right now"
	"I've got 5 days until I have to have this project finished."
		"No time to do it right now. Busy, busy, busy..."
	"I really should do this project this weekend."
		"Huh? The weekend is for doing nothing useful, no matter
		 how much you need to do it. I had a hard week. I need 
                 the rest."
	"Well, here it is. Monday and this thing is due Tues. Looks
	 like another all-nighter to get it done."

I have now had this conversation with myself 3 times this semester.
Sometime around 4 or 5 tomorrow morning I will say to myself "I will
start on these things earlier. And this time, I mean it!" At least, 
that is how it has gone the other times. Why break tradition now?
-- 
Chris Baldwin                | Anybody can fuck a pig; it takes a Marine 
baldwin@carina.unm.edu       | to fuck a pig to death.
                             |                          -Dan Hillman
"Is it just a coincidence that aliens always choose to abduct stupid people?" 
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Slow Newsfeeds
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:42:53 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

Peeve: Overly friendly cats.

In article <By0IMr.ABG@ibmpcug.co.uk>, charless@scol.sco.com writes:

> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
> > I never realised how quick my newsfeed used to be, until it
> > packed in. Now it's about a week behind the rest of the world.
> > 
> Hey, welcome to the net!
> 
> This is about my third week ever of having a newsfeed that ISN'T
> a week behind the rest of the world. So I hope you'll put my

I've had it good since December 1990, and it's a helluva shock to
see crappy seven-day-plus propogation times. Heck, I used to
think the normal 1-2 day propogation to here was bad, because
there were conversations that blossomed and finished in mere
hours! 

Seven days _late!_, fuck, it's a joke. At least I'm reasonably
confident that I'm getting out without some humungous delay.

I spoke to my site admin, and he said "news just keeps pouring
in, what's your specific problem", so it's not something that
he's aware of.

Large sigh.

Doesn't look very interesting when the best I can do is attempt
to flame people for what they said a week ago.

At least I'm left-handed.

!Peeve : Rapidly shoving puss off the desk. <"Meowww.. thud.">

Dac
--
dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Failure of MicroManagement (and failures of poster)
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:07:38 GMT

Peeve:  finding both copies in talk.bizarre, instead
of one there and one in alt.peeves.  Poster error??

dg

drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

] sub_text_on_micro_management:
] 
] I have an old seastory about a pair of lesbians I knew,
] the baby dyke of which had this fantasy about wanting to
] watch her lover make it with a GUY. And through the 
] 'simple twists of fate' I was selected. The problem came
] when the baby dyke became 'concerned' that I not 'hurt
] her lover.' And all I could say was: 'trust me, I KNOW
] about these things.....'
] 
] 
] ciao
] drieux
] 
] ps: sometimes you just have to delegate things to
] those who KNOW what they are doing....
] 
] 
] -- 
] Modern Day Problems:
] Little Miss Muffett, sat on a ToughtIt,
] Eating her Kurds and Weighs, Along came a Spider,
] and she drove off with the Neat Guy with a HOT CAR!


Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian)
Subject: Re: Take up a hobby, instead
Keywords: Losers
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian)
Organization: International FurHarvester: Combine a Commie for Christ
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:32:52 GMT

donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>Hell, I sometimes have the urge to quit my job
>and drive down the coast naked on my motorcycle at 140 mph, shooting at
>seals all the way, but that wouldn't excatly enhance my career, would it?

	Sounds fun to me!  Mind if I ride <ahem> shotgun?

Peeve: I heard the adjective "Philistine" used towards a person who drank
his beer cold today.  Actually, I was the one who said it.  While I know who
the Philistines were, I can't figure out what they could have done that
would have warrnted just a phrase in the English language.  This is highly
annoying, as no references I've checked even mention such an act.

--
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Is it Naivete, Stupidity or Homophobia? (Re: Recent Peeve
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<92321.001837LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <17969@autodesk.COM>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:38:43 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Nov 92 21:43:43 GMT, booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) said:
	[ comments about homophobes deleted.. ]

Elaine> Peeve: People who refuse to acquaint themselves with the nomenclature
Elaine> 	of other groups of people. A "glory hole" is a pick up place
Elaine> 	where anonymous sexual activity occurs. It is not a "wank

Hmm. And here I had this entirely different definition of "glory hole",
from my drinking days with a buddy who ran an X-rated movie theater.

Elaine> 	hole".  "Wankhole" is a term constructed by Curtis to describe
Elaine> 	a virtual (computer defined) social space contaminated by
Elaine> 	juveniles who express their sexual frustrations in gratuitous
Elaine> 	and fumblingly salacious flame wars and name calling 
Elaine>         exhibitions.

Obviously another misconception of mine, formed even earlier, from living 
in London eight weeks.

Peeve: Finding out I didn't know the correct meanings of "glory hole" and
       "wankhole" all these years..

L.
"Yeh, Buddy..            | larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)|  _~~_
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 Right HERE!!"           | New Mexico State University          |  /..\ 
 (computer THIS!)        | Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA 88003    |   <> 
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are CORRECT, mine, and not PSLs or NMSUs..
Oh sure, we could do it the _easy_ way. But it just wouldn't be the COWBOY WAY.
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Space Age Outerwear and a challenge
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:17:58 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1dvhcjINNbn5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock) writes:
> In article <1992Nov12.125348.8825@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>In article <BxJILA.DEq@news.iastate.edu>, z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:
>>> In article <1992Nov10.185416.8768@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>> 
> 
> OK, I have to admit you have finally completely confused me.  Why
> don't you want to send photos of yourself to guys?  I mean, nothing
> makes sense.  
>If you're ugly, 
Heh.

>or fat,
Hehheh

> or skinny,
Nope.

> or your mother
> dresses you funny,

Nope. I dress myself, so I suppose I'd only have myself to blame if I did.

> would women find that less amusing?  Or if you
> look like Cary Grant, would you be ashamed to think that a man might
> be jealous?  or attracted?

Now you have me confused. Why would *I* be ashamed for someone else's problem?



> 
> Yeah sure, I gotta see this picture that is only suitable for female
> consumption.  Especially if there are bribes available.  I, like Dan,
> prefer cash.


Sorry, no bribes offered from this end. I'm afraid you'll have to wait a while
until Curtis antes up.

Also, to all you Peevers-in-the-know: is posting a GIF to the group good
netiquette? I had heard that some floated around recently, but I am not clear
if it was a mailing list that sent and received the Gif, or were they actually
posted to the net?

Mike 
Newsgroups: alt.peeves