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From: barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS:ANGOLA: Clinton under pressure to recognise Luanda
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:16:53 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

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Title: ANGOLA: Clinton under pressure to recognise Luanda


london, dec 14 (ips/moyiga nduru) -- u.s. president-elect bill
clinton is under pressure to recognise the government of angola,
when he takes over from incumbent president george bush on jan.
20.

''we are already lobbying and many people in the united states,
including civil rights activist jesse jackson, have joined forces
with us,'' said peter brayshaw, of the london-based group
mozambique angola committee.

the u.s., the only western nation with no embassy in luanda,
refused to recognise the government after the former portuguese
colony embraced marxist-leninism after independence in 1975.

washington, along with south africa, began supplying military and
logistical support to the rebel national union for the total
liberation of angola (unita) after luanda invited cuban troops,
estimated to have reached 40,000 before their withdrawal in 1989,
to aid their fight against the unita forces.

''i'm convinced that if the u.s. recognises angola it would
reduce the threat by unita to resume civil war in angola following
its defeat by the ruling popular movement for the liberation of
angola (mpla) in the recent elections,'' said angolan yusuf
manuel, of the university of sussex.

unita has refused to accept the results of multi-party elections
in september, held under united nations-sponsored peace accords
and were verified by the u.n. to be ''fair and free''.

many observers were surprised by unita's refusal to accept the
results as its leader, jonas savimbi, supported the goal of multi-
party democracy during his 16 years of bush war against the mpla.

in britain, the pressure to force the uk government to act also
gained momentum when more than 200 people, including mps and
activists, who have come together under umbrella group angola
emergency campaign wrote to the british foreign minister, douglas
hurd, urging him to condemn unita.

unita, however, softened its stance this week and accepted an
offer by angolan prime minister marcelino moco to take a cabinet
seat and four deputy ministerial posts.

mac activist mike wolfers said that the threat of instability in
angola was delaying the government's efforts to tap the country's
vast natural resources, such as diamond, gold and oil.

however, with clinton's declared aim to concentrate on domestic
problems, u.s. action hinges on pressure from his party's radical
group, the african american lobby, of which jackson is a member.
(end/ips/ip/mn/92)
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Subject: kenyan elections
From: ltt75326@acuvax.acu.edu
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:48:58 -0600
Organization: Abilene Christian University

Hello out there!

Does anyone have any information on the outcome of the Kenyan
elections? They took a census of the population in 1989 when
I was there and they still haven't given the results of that
count... 

curious,

l.t.
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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: Of languages and math - this in re to create or not to create another sca baby
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:05:55 GMT

In article <1hdgngINNjk4@mozz.unh.edu> llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius) writes:

>language one wants to use: example, when AIDS was first "discovered", it was
>hard to describe it in native southern African languages but some very clever
>persons came up with new words (unofficial, you understand) such as
>"magawagawa" in Chichewa, I think (and if memory serves, the term literally
>means "shared around"), later someone started using "matenda gha boma" -
>"the govt's disease" in another southern African language...I think they
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-) :-) :-)

This is absurd!! Dou ya think the ancient Banda (I understand he is in his
ninenties) can infect anybody???

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From: shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: SADF Purge
Date: 21 Dec 1992 12:39:42 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
>Hot off the press. De Klerk announces a "purge" of the SADF
>in response to findings of an inquiry into SADF covert
>operations. Two major-generals dismissed and scores of other
>officers. Interesting stuff. This seems to be in keeping
>with expectations that the SADF remains locked in the
>"cold war" of the 80s, especially in its top leadership,
>who seem to have their own ideas about De Klerk's reforms.
>Even more interesting. Apparently criminal prosecutions
>may follow.


Have the names of the generals been released yet. Of course
this is positive as either it means that FW has _some_
sincerity, or the political pressure has reached a state where
he has been forced to take some action. I would still like
to see who has been chucked out: are they sacrificing
some second rank players (don't forget there are lots of
spare major generals floating around) or are some people
in really responsible positions being dismissed. Is suppose
it would be hopelessly naive to ask whether any former
Ministers of Defence have apologised for being so incompetent
to allow all of this to go on? What is Magnus Malan minister of
now.

>Not so hot off the press. Goldstone finds that the taxi wars in
>Alexandria are at root caused by commercial competition
>and lawlessness, gangsterism etc. This receives zero coverage
>in the local press, prone to air more sinister theories at the
>drop of a hat.

I would recommend a subscription to Weekly Mail. I
can't recall whether the violence in Alex has been dealt with,
but they have carried a number of stories about similar situations
in other townships. If you were to read the Sunday Times less,
you would be "...much better informed"


Scott
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From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Subject: "Clipping" Services Available?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:02:32 GMT

Hi.  My boss is interested in electronic news services that cover Africa
more extensively than Compuserve.  Any pointers to Internet or commericial
services that have comprehensive service would be appreciated.

Please post replies to the net as my mailbox explodes regularly, unless you
think your reply is not of general interest to this group.

Thanks,
Larry J

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Subject: Re: Powell Reveals Plan for New Wars
From: Amos.Omondi@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Amos Omondi)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:26:17 GMT
Organization: Inter-Galactic Space Probe, No. 42 

In article <2JAN93.23262270@edison.usask.ca> f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca writes:
>if your arguement is extended logically, what would happen if(remember, i said
>if) there are no wars to fight anywhere in the world? would US invent another
>war(s) to keep the Pentagon's annual budget soaring into the outer space? 

	That would not be a logical extension of my argument.

>non-existing enemies and unnecessary military interventions.
>again, assuming the US policeman's job is necessary as you suggested, why
>has the US or, more appropiately, the GoodYear tyre company not intervened in
>Liberia? Are people not dieing there on daily basis or are their lives 
>chicken's? well, Clinton over to you!
>


I said it was necessary; I did not say that the USA would always be 
willing to do it.  It would not have happened in Somalia without the 
public pressure; nor will it happen in Bosnia until the public pressure 
gets high enough.  Nor will it large scale intervention take place in 
Liberia until there is enough public pressure; however, in this case 
you should note the statement about Liberia that was slipped into the 
original article. 

One of my points was that no matter what Pentagon plans are, an 
"excuse" is needed; e.g., it would be hard in the curent climate to 
justify increasing spending on newer strategic nuclear weapons.  


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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: Of languages and math - this in re to create or not to create another sca baby
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:01:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.085009.3082@phyrql.Alt.ZA> lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA writes:
>kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>
>>This is absurd!! Dou ya think the ancient Banda (I understand he is in his
>>ninenties) can infect anybody???
>
>Hey man, that's perverse politics.  Dr Banda _has_ been around a long
>time, but that don't make him old!  I'm told his official age is a state
>secret, but I guess, second childhood and all that, that he's twelve or so!

A state secret?? And who is the custodian of this secret?? Can't be him since
he is a transexual with amnesia...:-) :-) Or am I confusing him with Moi???
Birds of a feather..

>Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
>The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...


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From: f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: RE: Powell Reveals Plan for New Wars
Date: 2 JAN 93 23:26:22 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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In a previous article, Amos.Omondi@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Amos Omondi) wrote:
>In article <1uHqwB1w165w@nyxfer.uucp> ww@nyxfer.UUCP writes:
>>
>>Subject: Powell Reveals Plan for New Wars
>>From: nyxfer!ww (Workers World Service)

>3) It is becoming increasingly clear that the someone has to be the world's 
>policeman -- Bosnia is the next stop -- and only the USA seems to have the 
>capability or the will to do it.  It is therefore perfectly reasonable 
>that the Pentagon should continue building its forces and preparing to 
>fight in various parts of the world.

if your arguement is extended logically, what would happen if(remember, i said
if) there are no wars to fight anywhere in the world? would US invent another
war(s) to keep the Pentagon's annual budget soaring into the outer space? 
i think the point the previous writer was trying to put across is that much
as no one wants Powell to lose his job at this time when the US economy is in
trouble, Pentagon should remember that a hungry man is an angry man. many
US citizens cannot balance the stomach equation(s) on a one-square-meal basis;
many have nowhere to lay their heads; many have no hope to be re-employed again,
and somebody is somewhere ballooning the military budget in preparation for
non-existing enemies and unnecessary military interventions.
again, assuming the US policeman's job is necessary as you suggested, why
has the US or, more appropiately, the GoodYear tyre company not intervened in
Liberia? Are people not dieing there on daily basis or are their lives 
chicken's? well, Clinton over to you!
oguocha



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From: f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: RE: AFRICAN SOCCER: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP
Date: 23 DEC 92 21:04:50 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: edison.usask.ca


>>TOPIC: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP
> 
>>Ibadan, Nov. 29; Nigeria's representative Shooting Stars football club
>>of Ibadan on Nov. 28 in Ibadan won the maiden edition of the African 
>>Football Confederation (CAF) cup soccer competition, after walloping 
>>Nakivubo Villa of Uganda 3-0 in the second leg of the final match of 
>>the competition.

>My friend,
>Walloping is not what I would call the results seen here.  The result was
>merely due to a slight impediment in rising to the occasion under the
>circumstances, not a walloping.
>.. in football it has to be at least 7-0 to be a walloping.
>It was the saltiness in the air from the sea that probably caused the
>players much discomfort, and slowed them down.
>Next time will be a different matter. :-)  :-)
> 
>Kiggundu. 

my good friend,
african soccer has come a long way that a 7-0 score is a miracle, if not
a mirage. moreover, i don't know from where you got the definition of walloping
in which it is stated that the score line must be 7-0 in order to be walloping.
Ibadan is about 125 Km from the sea coast and i don't think the Ugandan team 
lost because of the saltiness of the air. i think they lost to a better side. 
The Stars, if you have been following my soccer postings, is the second best 
team in Nigeria today. They missed the first position by a point. Moreover, 
they had a very good home record in the CAF cup series. The Ugandans should not
blame the saltiness of the air because they lost the match in Kampala.
as for 'next time', it may never come their way again.
oguocha  

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From: llk@kepler.unh.edu (Local Genius)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Of languages and math - this in re to create or not to create another sca baby
Date: 24 Dec 1992 21:47:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

        Anti-Math Languages, views of an Indian mathematician
        ------------------------------------------------------


There has been a lot of talk about pronouncing various names such as Steltjes,
Erdos, Huygens, etc.

It kind of reminds me of the time when I was in kid-school and the teacher 
assigned as homework writing large Indo-(Arabic) numbers as Roman numerals. I
refused to waste my time converting numbers to the idiotic Roman system.

The story with numbers seems to have been repeated with languages. In India,
they invented many languages, and (as far as I know) they *all* satisfy the
basic rules of readability that any *intelligent* language must possess. These
languages have alphabets and things like vowels (called matras)...the number
of alphabets/"matras" are about the same or a few more than the English 26.
But the important thing is that there is never any question of how to 
pronounce. When saying a word you just read the alphabets and "matras" 
individually (one after another, from left to right) so you read the word and
its pronounciation...NEVER any pronounciation ambiguities. And, obviously, it
reads much faster than English. And the "matras" are chosen to cover all
possible sounds the human vocal cords can make.

I believe that these illogical, idiotic languages such as English, Dutch, etc
will *one day* end up in the same graveyard as the Roman numerals, etc. These
languages would be there sooner, if it were not for the temporary Western
power status.

Indeed, noting the anti-logic, anti-math, anti-consistency nature of these
languages, it will be a great day for reason/logic when these are totally
eliminated, just like it was when the Roman numerals ended up where they
belonged. And as a result, we don't have post after post inquiring how to
write, say, 177,456,321,123 in Roman numerals, but we still have to deal
with people inquiring about disorganized and arbitrary pronounciation of
words.

Really, no insult intended to the inventors of the Roman numerals etc...
their systems do show signs of competent thinking.

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From: f54oguocha@edison.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: AFRICAN SOCCER: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP
Date: 21 DEC 92 19:39:14 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: edison.usask.ca

TOPIC: NIGERIA WINS THE MAIDEN CAF CUP

Ibadan, Nov. 29; Nigeria's representative Shooting Stars football club
of Ibadan on Nov. 28 in Ibadan won the maiden edition of the African 
Football Confederation (CAF) cup soccer competition, after walloping 
Nakivubo Villa of Uganda 3-0 in the second leg of the final match of 
the competition.
The Shooting stars emerged winners with a 3-0 goal aggregate, following
their first leg goalless draw in Kampala two weeks ealier. The CAF cup
final played at the Lekan Salami Sports Stadium in Ibadan, was watched by
many dignitaries, including the donor of the cup, Chief M.K.O. Abiola, and
the CAF president Isa Hayotu.
The Shooting stars got their first goal in the 39th minute from a penalty-
kick taken by Majeed Azeez after veteran Felix Owolabi was brought down in
the 18 yard box. Tunji Adeyemi scored the second goal in the 69th minute,
when he deflected into the net a free kick taken by Ogbein Fawole. Adeyemi
scored the third goal when headed in a lob from the right flank.
The victory marked the secon time that Shooting Stars football club will
win a continetal trophy, having won the African Cup Winners' cup in 1976.

Oguocha

Source: NAN
From: pmwanik@cadev5.intel.com (Peter Mwaniki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: SADF Purge
Keywords: sadf,de klerk, apartheid, anc
Date: 3 Jan 93 07:07:21 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

>>From Guardian Weekly (week ending 26 December)
>PRETORIA PURGE SPARES MILITARY HARDLINERS by David Beresford

>Suspicions of a continued cover-up of South Africa's
>"third force" controversy persisted when it emerged that
>President FW de Klerk's dramatic "purge" of the military 
>does not include key officers implicated in the long-running
>scandal over dirty tricks.

	while conscriptions continues to be whites only, and
	military aggressions continues in neighbouring african
	states ( angola -savimbi), one wonders WHAT elements
	de klerk is purging/retiring from sadf, would this be
	de klerk's oportunity to purge those not fully commited
	to the maintenance of apartheid ? while de klerk dances
	to international communities music with crocodile tears
	down his cheeks, claiming to be negotiating for a
	democratically elected goverment, while his hands are
	tied by non other but de klerk. we are all fooled !

stuff deleted...

>The Conservative Party which has a huge following among whites
>in the armed forces described the purge as  a "calamitous blunder"
>and "treachery". It was "an intimidatory tactic aimed at forcing
>the remaining SADF members to toe the party line and to accept the
>government's sellout to their alliance partners, the ANC, and permit
>the amalgamation of the remains of the SADF with the ANC's
>Umkhonto we Sizwe and the PAC's Apla killers."

	"the conservative party" de klerk's mysterious other face,
        aka  "third force"  is simply the equavalent of KKK
	putting on the white sheets at nite.  it's de klerk " the
	man of change " during the day and de klerk the "third
	force" at night. the conservative party statement above
	is nothing but smoking bull .... !

>The ANC, congratulating President de Klerk for finally acting
>against the military, said his action nevertheless disclosed 
>"a crisis of mahor proportions which has a direct bearing on the 
>negotiating process". It said that "transparency is essential"
>to continued investigations into the conspiracy.

	and behold ! the anc bends over again ! 


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From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Of languages and math - this in re to create or not to create another sca baby
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:50:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: phyrql.1992Dec31.085009.3082
Reply-To: lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA
Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications

kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:

>This is absurd!! Dou ya think the ancient Banda (I understand he is in his
>ninenties) can infect anybody???

Hey man, that's perverse politics.  Dr Banda _has_ been around a long
time, but that don't make him old!  I'm told his official age is a state
secret, but I guess, second childhood and all that, that he's twelve or so!
-- 
Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
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From: barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS:MOZAMBIQUE: DONORS TO DISCUSS AID FOR RECONSTRUCTION
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:18:20 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: MOZAMBIQUE: DONORS TO DISCUSS AID FOR RECONSTRUCTION


rome, dec 14 (ips) -- a proposed 400-million dollar aid package,
destined to help mozambique's reconstruction process following 16
years of civil war, will be discussed here by international
donor countries on dec. 15 - 16.

the funds would be used to repatriate and resettle some four
to five million internal refugees as well as the over 1.5 million
mozambicans who fled to neighbouring countries during the 16-year
war between the government and the mozambique national resistance
movement (renamo) rebel group.

the aid would also finance the reintegration of thousands of
government soldiers and renamo rebels into civilian life, said
italian foreign minister carmelo azzara, who will chair the
meeting.

in addition, the aid package aims to provide mozambique with
resources it needs to set up organizational structures needed for
presidential and legislative elections to be held by the end of
1993, according to an oct. 4 peace agreement.

the agreement, signed in rome, crowned two years of
negotiations aimed at ending the 16-year civil war.

the donors' conference will be attended by representatives of
the european community (ec), china, russia, the united states,
the vatican, a number of african countries, un agencies and the
international red cross. (end/ips/trd/so/jp-ds/kb/92)
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