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From: tss20391@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajesh Subrahmanyan)
Subject: Re: Telnet to TIFR
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:50:02 GMT

sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:

>tss20391@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajesh Suryanarayanan) writes on soc.culture.indian:

>)srinivas@csa3.lbl.gov (SRINIVAS KRISHNAGOPAL) writes:
>)
>)> Does anyone know if its possible to TELNET to computers at TIFR? It works for
>)>NCST (shakti.ernet.in) but the address "tifrvax.ernet.in" is unrecognised, at
>)>least by the local server. If someone had suceeded in logging on to TIFRVAX,
>)>could you please email me the IP number.

>[...]

>)copy of entries in a "real name-server" like sri-nic.arpa (I think !)
>)and I know for a fact that sri-nic knows only about shakti and sangam. If

>SRI no longer maintains the Internet NIC. It is now GSI's and

>[...]

>don't realize the implication of overloading the link, the users on
>both sides of the link are going to be the losers. 

>Sridhar.

Duh? What do you mean exactly? I was under the impression that Internet is
quite distinct from UUNET. We are talking about internet sites; we are not
worried about sending e-mail to machines in India. A slow link is usually not
a problem, because you can set contime in the telnet configuration file. I
don't know what you mean by "slow link" either, because you neglect to mention
the actual problem, bar your esoteric description of the nature of the networks 
and the name of the actual name server. I don't really think your response  
really addresses the question posed :-) 


Cheers
Rajesh 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: One less ignorant Indian girl
Keywords: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:46:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.025215.21008@massey.ac.nz> J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal) writes:
>
>	
>What makes you think that U will not contract the HIV virus after marriage. 
>Do U believe that marriage will prevent the tansmission if your wife is
>HIV+

have you thought about "talking" to your would-be-wife (and youself) to
undergo an HIV test before the ceremony? If you haven't, maybe it's time
you did.


>As much as You can:-) -: There are more people dying of other diseases. 

Well, it's your life....  Hmm.. let me guess what you might say...
Only GAYS get AIDS!!! 

I guess Ignorance is a pretty good way of eliminating ignorants!!!

>I also think U are irked by the fact that it is an Indian womyn here in question
>and she does not fit into your set of morals.

I don't think this deserves a reply...

Njan
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (RAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thamiL_sangam
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:35:30 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

thamiL_sangathin  sArbil enadhu 





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       raj



ps
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ajsingh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ajay.singh)
Subject: Re: Indians Protest Libyan sanctions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:32:27 GMT

From article <Apr.16.13.58.58.1992.19104@ring8.rutgers.edu>, by ratan@ring8.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan):
> In article <92107.100740TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu>, TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> This morning's newspaper had a picture of people burning G. Bush's effigy
>> in front of Jama Masjid in New Delhi to protest the sanctions against Libya.
>> They were carrying signs of 'Down with US, UK and France'. I wonder if this is
>> why India rather abstained from the vote in the security council.
> 
> 
> Why are pjeople mad at Bush, or UK, or France? 
> Wasn't it decided by the UNO? If a nation (e.g., India) is a member of such
> organization then that nation is equally responsible for whatever
> decision is made by the organization. Why are people so ignorant?









And why these BASTARDS and their BULLAHS did'nt do the same to that SOB of
Libya Moammar GHADHA-bhi when the PanAm plane was blown ??

Why ? Jama Masjid or the BULLAHS does'nt like "KATAWA BULLAHS"s effigy ??



Vande Mathram              Jai Hind               Hinduthvatha Amar Hai.




Ajay.
From: ravi@chewi.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: R.E.C. Warangal Friends
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:13:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ of Wisc, Dept of Chem Engr

Looking for R.E.C Warangal colleagues of 1971-76 batch.
Please send me the addresses.

		K.Ravindranath
		Office Ph. 608-263-6592
From: uds@surya.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Will you guys help me when I req help from India ?...
Keywords: Modem, IndiaNet, overseas email.
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:45:25 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University


Guys, I posted a few weeks ago, something on how to access the electronic
world from India.

Now I am making a request to you all, which will definitely be applicable
to one and all.

If I need emergency help while in India, I think it is very appropriate
and the best thing to do, that I put a posting on this usenet group, and
have people respond.  It makes monetory sense to me.  Using the electronic
connection will cost me Rs. 4 per minute, while random calls to friends will
kill me financially.  Also, to post a message, I can just dump a file, that
I would have typed-in previously.

Typical situations -- while coming back, I expect some serious confirmed-seat
-availability-problems from (say) N.Y. to Detroit.  If I require a possible
stay fror a night, I expect some guys at NY or NJ univs to volunteer to help
me from such situations. Ofcourse, arrangements will have to discussed between
us, either through email (to my accounts here, which I would read from India)
or on this usenet.

Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

P.S.  I have a notebook, with a pocket modem.  Last time I took a Panasonic
TK-2355 model Phone, with the US type phone jack.  So everything is set
from my home -- except for the USER ID from VSNL and your guarantee to help.
From: kulkarni@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.......
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:02:49 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Here is another Gujju PJ.

Q. What a Gujju would say when he sees a lock over another lock?
A. "Lok perlok"   ( name of a hindi movie ).

Q. What a Gujju would say when he throws a tomato & asks to catch it?
A. "Tomato ketchup, tomato ketchup"


Cheers!
From: kulkarni@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE: A joke about mathematicians
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:14:05 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


 Q. What does a mathematician do when he gets constipation?
 A. He takes pencil & works out.
From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: WHAT DOES THIS HINDI/URDU WORD MEAN.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:58:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16745
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU

In article <167C712E93.A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:
<chhot se jeevan me kitna pyaar karoon, pee loon HAALA
< 
<yam (as in yamraj) aaega saqi bankar, saath liye kaali HAALA
< 
<mere adharon par ho antim, vastu na ganga jal HAALA
< 
<Does anybody know the meaning??
< 
<anil
     In all contexts it should mean poison a shortened form for 'haalahal'
which is a Sanskrit word for poison, that which is drunk y Shiva but not
swallowed.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: LOVE Marriages & ARRANGED Marriages: A Comparison
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:13:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr17.121324.19392
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

Mr Sira , writes ...
> I feel that at least in the class of society I (and most of the netters in
>the group, I'm sure) come from, i.e. the urban middle class, you can retain
>your social status if you are an economic super-power. This class has become
>decadent and would accept anything that suits its economic interests. And yet,
>it wants to parade itself as the sole protector of "morals" and
>"culture" of the society. 

 Mr Sira, you seem to have and undeniable propensity to speak in riddles.
Care to explain what you intended to say....'bout this " BLOT IN INDIAN
CULTURE " ...

PB
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:16:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


Sudha writes:

> but I still contend that what [I] pointed out *is*
> the basic p[oin]t of the whole issue.


	A grain of sand contains the whole universe.
	
	[that is: a lot of truth is contained in a "basic point."]
	
	
---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rbk@omega.cs.psu.edu (Balaji Raghavachari)
Subject: Varudu Varudu, Vilagu Vilagu [Coming Coming, Out of the Way Out of the Way :-)]
Keywords: Tamil, soc.culture.tamil
Organization: /home/theory/rbk/.organization
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 21:09:15 GMT


Thozhargale! Thozhigale! 
(Loosely translated from Tamil as Boyfriends and Girlfriends ;-) ;-)

Articles supporting/opposing soc.culture.tamil has reached alarming
numbers. In fact there have been more articles on the need to create
sct than on "Thamizh things" (that would allegedly appear in this new
newsgroup). If I remember right, the last discussion on Tamil was
probably on Thiruppavai and related things. This was quite a while
ago. If people are dying to write about Tamil culture, how is it that
sci is not inundated with such articles? Don't just post articles
defending sct. Start posting articles on Tamil culture on sci. You can
always move it later to sct. I call upon my Tamil (and non Tamil, of
course) siblings to start posting articles in sci that they are
preserving for sct. For a start, how about some Pudukavithai from the
one and only Mr. Sundara Pandian (or is it Vashishta or Yogi or Vaisnavi)?

{
  Of course, Indians spend more time talking about doing than in doing;
  I dont mean to generalize, but this is universally true :-) 
  Knowing the level of humor impairment of many readers in this group, I
  can expect millions of flames and rebuttals on this, but then I again I
  dont wish to generalize!!
}

Do any of the netters remember the rest of the following poem (if
possible with translation)? It is a `sledai' (or something).

Imbar vaan ellai Kambanaiye enni 
en konarndhai Baana nee enral Baani
......
......


--Balaji
--

=================================================================
--Balaji "Velayilla Pattadhari" Raghavachari
  (rbk@cs.psu.edu)
=================================================================

Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: maddireddy_j@mims.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Scholarships - high school
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:25:45 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Hi,
    I would like to encourage 8th, 9th, and 10th grade high scool students
by giving yearly scholarship to the 1st & 2nd rank students. Assuming that
I want to spend total of Rs 2000 for scholarships, what are best ways of
distributing the money? The idea is to bring competetive spirit among
young students. I thought of allocating about Rs 500 to the best teacher of the
year.
    - What is the measuring criteria ? Should I take the final examination
      results ? What should be the difference in scholarships between 1st and
      2nd rank holders?
    - Is it worth to have minimum marks? Say minimum marks to qualify for the
      scholarship would be 425 out of 600 , otherwise the funds are distributed
      during the following years, and the following years will have more money
      for scholarships..
      I am not familiar with acadmic curriculum of these years. What would be
      the appropriate threshold levels( of marks, 400? ) in A.P.
    - How do we measure teacher's performance? The idea is to recognise the
      teacher without touching the ego of co-teachers. 
      It is difficult to consider marks of each subject, because most of the
      times a student would score better in Sciences, Social studies, and
      mathematics than languages. This may make teachers who teach
      languages like, Talugu, Hindi and English feel that they would never be
      recognised, and the teachers may perform.

I thought of going thru Cultural Associations of N.A, and I found that we do
not have any control on the allocatino of funds, and these associations wanted
about 20% of the money for their welfare and miscellaneous expenses.

I talked to SBI in NY, they said they could arrange thru banks in India to
send checks yearly to the High schools.

I am an alumni of V.R.College, Nellore, A.P, and I would like to extend this
process to the Intermediate students with your co-operation.   

Please Email me with your valuable suggessions and assistance.

Thanking you in advance

Jay Maddireddy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shankar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Chidambaram Shankar)
Subject: looking for guys from CBIT
Originator: shankar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:37:19 GMT

hi,
   Iam looking for some of my friends from CBIT,HYDERABAD.Ithink one of 
   them (pradeep dhani) is somewhere in louisiana and  another guy raghavender
   is in texas.If any of you guys know them please let me know.my email address
   is shankar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu or shankar@ee.uwm.edu.
			      thankyou
			      SHANKAR CHIDAMBARAM
From: lakshmip@plains.NoDak.edu (Chandrasekar Lakshmipathi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR N.VISWANATHAN
Keywords: VISu
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:27:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16767
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

Looking for 

N. VISWANATHAN
1988 R.E.C Surat, Mechanical Engineering
Joined Univertsity of Toledo, Ohio in 1989

Any Informthation about him will be appreciated.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: A joke about mathematicians ( with due respects to them)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:32:43 GMT

Here's another one:

Once upon a time an astronomer, a physicist, and a mathematician set
off on a walking tour in the Scottish highlands. They soon came across
a sheep grazing all alone on a farm. Looking at it the astronomer
commented 'So, the sheep in the highlands are black.'
'You cannot generalize so sweepingly', admonished the physicist. 'Your
sample is too small. Only after a careful analysis of a large number of  
sheep all over the highlands can you make such a statement. Just now
all you can say is that black sheep are found in Scotland.' He turned
to the mathematician for his views.
'I am afraid I disagree with you both', remarked that worthy. 'All you
can say is that animal over there appears to be black on the side
facing us.'

(Taken from Chapter 1, "The Structure of the Universe" by Jayant Narlikar, 
Oxford University Press, 1977.)


Rajan Parrikar
==============
Center for Microwave/Millimeter-Wave Computer-Aided Design
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
University of Colorado at Boulder

E-mail: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu
(O): 303-492-8719
(H): 303-440-3898
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From: juvvadi@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Ramana R. Juvvadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:34:08 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <16535@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:

>then things fall into place. One may effectively postulate that
>the Supreme self, endowed the universe with properties to evolve(the
>properties of protons, electrons, elements compounds etc.etc.)
>and then left the universe to take its own course and th evolve.
>We are the products of this evolution. Thus the concept
>of evolution(Darwin's theory) DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE CONCEPT
>OF THE PARAMAATMA OR THE SUPREME SELF. 

The argument that "God ( Paramatma or supreme self whatever you want
to call it) has made the universe, gave it some laws to behave, and has 
gone to sleep" is based more on faith than reason. Agreed, modern science
cannot rule out the existence of such a God in any way. But if that is
the case he seems to be a pretty powerless God. Why do we need the
existence of such a God ? If every boson and fermion in the universe
behaves according to the laws of physics what good will be achieved by
the hypothesis that God exists. Of course you can argue that
nondeterminism in quantum mechanics proves the existence of God.
If that is the scope we give God to excercise his power, he is
a strange God indeed. 

There is one caveat I find with the arguments on any theory in
Cosmology. All the theories that we human beings put forward are
based on the observations made from the vicinity of our planet.
How do we know what can be observed from the earth is a typical
sample ? It might be a local variation. 

I am not a physicist and the most prolific writer on this net,
Arun Kumar Gupta, happens to be a great physicist also. I'll leave
it for him to point out any contradictions in my argument.

>This also falls in line with Adi-shankara's MONISM where everything
>is attributed to the WILL of the creator.

When the theory of evolution was propounded by Darwin it created a storm
in the Christian world. I cannot think of any theory which can shake
the Hindu world so much. Some people might tout it as the
tolerant attitude of Hinduism. In my view this is a reflection of the
fact that Hinduism does not have any central belief.

I have a suspicion that Shankara had a lot to do with lack of
assertiveness we find in many Indians. I am always surprised at the
ease with which many Indians can carry two blatantly contradictory ideas
in their head. Probably every one does it to certain extent but it is
my perception that Indians can take it to extremes. I think the 
argument that what you see around you is a 'maya' or 'mithya' had a
devastating  effect on the common sense of many people.

>Sivaram

Ramana
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:30:32 GMT

In article (Sudha Neelakantan) writes:

>I think it does imply a failure, I wouldn't want to marry a person
>unless I felt that I respected them enough to want to be a supportive
>partner regardless of their changes and feel that its probably not worth
>getting married unless I go into it w/ the assumption of permanency.  I
>would rather just live in w/ them or whatever

Is it really realistic to assume that you can foresee the changes a
person will undergo in the next 10, 20, 30, even 40 years.  How can
you be sure you will be supportive for eternity unless you constrict
them in such a way that they cannot change to a point where you can
no longer be supportive.  In short, that is precisely why arranged
marriages in India have been so succesful.  The woman, (wife) has been
restrained so much that she essentially remains the same person all
her life.  Her character does not get the freedom to change as it
desires.  And that is why the husband has no trouble staying supportive
all his life.

I don't see how living with someone for 10 years is really different 
than marriage.  I think it is the unrealistic assumption of permanency
that is hastening the demise of marriage as an institution, to everybody's
loss.

Sanjoy Ghosh
ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 21:34:47 EDT
From: Shinjinee Sen <SSEN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Travel to India
Distribution: usa

I posted a notice some months ago to warn travelers to avoid Romanian Airlines,
otherwise known as TAROM.  They do have the cheapest deals and do fly to calcut
ta via the Gulf and Bucharest, BUT
1) they are extremely spartan - crowded, rough waste paper for toilet paper whi
ch runs out often in mid-flight, little food choice.
2) Bucharest Airport layover/ stopover is a nightmare - Indians were in 1991
exempt from transit fees, but the bathrooms are dimly lit, no food available in
 1991 except lots of wine
3) WORST OF ALL AND THE ONLY UNFORGIVABLE ONE: they bump confirmed passengers a
rt Calcutta airport, (that happened to a whole group of us), having made us run
from travel agency to airport and back.  We had to yell and scream before they
would condescend to transfer our tickets.  This was particularly difficult for
people returning to jobs.
4) also at Bucharest airport, there were long waits in line at the gate for you
r plane to be called, and a melee resulted.

MY ADVICE: Unless this airline has changed dramatically which I doubt, pay the
extra $100-300 and fly some other airline. It is not worth it to fly directly t
to Calcutta Intetrnational, as the customs people really hassle you. The next
time I fly I am going back on a reputable airline.
Shinjinee Sen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian