HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Financial first-date negotiations
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:00:56 GMT

[The grandparent article has expired from my machine, unfortunately.  I
would like to have seen the rest of what Mr. Preston had to say.]

In article <75959@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:
>>gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>>}Perhaps this is because some of us, instead of accepting traditional
>>}roles, have chosen to question those roles and define roles for
>>}ourselves more to our liking.
>>Jeez, do you think you could be just a little more arrogant about this?

Yes, I could, actually.

>>How about starting up a seminar series to teach us po' fokes, trapped
>>in our miserable, confining, traditional roles, how to properly question
>>and then define our roles in order to become one of the truly enlightened, 
>>like yourself?

I don't recall in this thread telling anyone what to think.  I'm just
offering my opinion, without resorting to insults or threats.  If you
don't like it, you know what the 'k' key is for.

>>Hit him, Lauren.  Just haul off and whack the boy upside his head.

Why don't you fight your own battles?
Also, don't call me 'boy'.  You're not my daddy.

>Lots of us net folks like questioning assumptions and roles, and enjoy
>being exposed to differing opinions on issues. It seems to me that if 
>Laura can imply Gregbo's opinion is from another planet, his correcting 
>her with "No, I made it up myself" can hardly be considered an escalation 
>of the arrogance level.

Thank you, Stef.

--gregbo
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:45:39 GMT
	<1992Dec30.143458.1789@flint.comlab.ox.ac.uk> <C0398B.FI1@cs.dal.ca>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca's message of 30 Dec 92 20:07:23 GMT


In article <C0398B.FI1@cs.dal.ca> earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard) writes:

   A good friend of mine (jewish) married a non-jew, and from the time she
   told her parents untill her first son was born she was exiled from
   her family.  In her case Mr. Wonderful made it worthwhile (She was 
   kosher orthodox), but in other cases, well...  YMMV.

One question: did he convert?  If so, then the family was way off base
-- there is a specific prohibition against treating converts this way.

In fact, either way, the family was way off base.  Breaking a rule is
not a permissible reason to exile a son or daughter.  

Frankly, I think that her parents were being assholes, and most of
my jewish friends agree with me.

   Only after experiencing it myself did I come to this conclusion.  You
   may not think there would be a problem between two non practicing 
   people (Jewish/Christian/Whathaveyou) but let's mention the word "KIDS"
   and all of a sudden we've got a lot of small arms fire going on in a
   very tight space.  There's nothing like an inlaw-inlaw war over religious
   soul claims.

Yup.  No question about that.  

If you make a particular choice in your life, you best be willing to
deal with the consequences.  But at the same time, you shouldn't let
those consequences run your life for you.


Spidey!!!
--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Summary: excuse me while I chalk up  
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 20:57:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.175345.253@mtu.edu> rossi@mtu.edu (Rossi) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.020606.1379@samba.oit.unc.edu> Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood) writes:
>>
>>"Know any good pickup lines?"
>>
>>--the one and only Lady Firebird
>
>Howabout:
>
>   Mind if I land on your branch before my wings fall off?
>
>   songbird
>
>(a pyro!!!!!!???? :) :) :) 
>
>  PS.  Lady Firebird I do hope you can find another of your kind.
>       I'd hate to think that the firebirds are going extinct.
>       Initiation of a captive breeding program may be necessary. ;)

Fear not, Songbird, I do believe there are other firebirds to be found.
Tradition has it that your first visitor after new year's indicates what
the coming year will be like--at 7:00 AM, I received my first visitor of
the year:  a medium-sized bird managed to force its way into the heating
vents of my house and, after a great deal of sound and fury carried 
throughout my domicile by cleverly placed ductwork, it was able to locate
the furnace and immolate itself within its firey depths.  

Now, I don't know quite what this foretells for the upcoming year, but it
does suggest that there are more firebirds to be found.  

Trygve   (Best to be careful while courting the Phoenix--its mating 
          techniques can be a mite harrowing.)
--
"A conservative, seeing a man drowning twenty feet from shore, will
 throw him a fifteen-foot rope and tell him to swim for it.  A liberal,
 faced with the same situation, throws the man a twenty-foot rope, then
 lets go of his end so that he may go off and perform another good deed."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:42:10 GMT

In article <1hvdioINNk2k@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
|In article <16153@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|A ideal pickup line should only receive a positive response from those who are
|compatible, and a negative response from everyone else.  It's a great
|time-saver.  As such, it should only have about a 1% or 2% success rate.
|The higher the success rate, the worse the line.

   Depends on how you're defining compatable, though...  If you're
in a mood where 'compatable' means 'willing to have sex with me', a
one or two percent success rate isn't exactly something to write
home about.  If, on the other hand, you're looking to meet your
life partner via an ideal pickup line, you'd like the success rate
to be 100%, even if the sample space would be one person.
                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ orc@sybase.com
                  \/
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:31:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.072717.20733@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>Well, next time you're feeling big and clumsy, just think of me--6'4",
>wearing XXXL-Tall shirts, and--in repeated consummate displays of
>clumsiness--in the process of learning just how much more annoying having
>to have to turn at an angle to get one's shoulders through a doorway is
>when on crutches.

	You may want to keep track of vertical clearance as well. Back
in '87, I was involved in a production where on opening night, a stage 
hand, running to get to the right location, slipped and sprained his
ankle. The next night, he was out of position *again*, and while
running full out  discovered that crutches can add an inch or two
to  height at midstride, as he ran through a door whose upper frame
was about 0.5 inches higher than his scalp, provided he wasn't on
crutches. *Beautiful* pressure cut...

	That was also the year I found out ignoring dislocated knees
is  a *bad* idea.

							James Nicoll
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Help, Want Singles Ski Club in Northern NJ
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:36:25 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec21.175555.2531@walter.bellcore.com> tjj@nomas.bellcore.com (T. Jordan) writes:
|Everyone get colds, bronchitis, flues, etc. but not everyone has the 
|disposition of getting crabby during these times. I would suggest Lauren
|that you seek therapy so that every time your not feeling well you
|stop taking it out on who ever is convient to take it out on. 
|I'll be waiting for your apology.

Don't hold your breath.  Are we just a little upset because someone had the
audacity to make a disparaging comment about, of all places, New Jersey?  
Perhaps if you would have limited the distribution to your own fine state 
instead of all over the world you wouldn't have had to read followups like
that. 

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Panix, NYC
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:08:14 GMT

In <C02Con.3vo@cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@cs.uiuc.edu writes:

>As for marrying outside a religion -- I don't see why it is impossible
>to have religiously intermixed marriages.  I find it puzzling that so
>many people born jewish end up restricting themselves and marrying
>within their religion.  I know several people who reject nearly every
>aspect of the religion, except for the principle that they must marry
>a jewish person.  I really would appreciate an explanation for this.

Don....
	I don't have an explanation, but I can relate my own experiences
being from being a Jew.  I'm not terribley religious (as in going to
Temple, and keeping Shabbat, etc, etc, etc) and I have dated many
non-Jews.  While I still would date non-Jews, I don't think I would be
able to commit to them.   I don't know what is driving me to feel this
way.  One factor may be my families struggles during the Holocaust, and my
personal need for belonging.   I don't know what to pin it on.
	But I can tell you the drive to stay within one's "group" is in no
way limited to Judaism.  In fact, I don't know of a group that actively
supports inter-faith/race marriage.  In fact this whole concept of dating
outside of one's own group is a very "new" idea.  I don't think this issue
would have even been discussed 50 years ago in the same way it is being
discussed now.....
	As for an explanation, I don't have one.  Maybe ethnic pride, but
that's too simple.  And that is not to say that I personally condemn those
in mixed marriages.  That's _their_ choice, not mine....
	I also think this whole discussion has something to do with
respect.  I mean, if she want's to stay within her own religion, and I do
also, what is wrong with that?  It would only be wrong if someone started
to act self rightgeous and prentend to apply their own personal values on
others......
	Respect a person's individuality.....

	Whether that be Shelly's, mine, yours or some poor bum walking
down the street.   Justifying or damning them is childish and just plain
stupid....

--
Jack
jis@panix.com
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ankle bracelets
Date: 26 Dec 1992 20:00:22 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Dec24.022312.8061@netcom.com> stevek@netcom.com (Steve Kile) writes:
>I'd like to ask the ladies of the net (tm) to answer a question for me.  I
>frequent a couple of restaurants where the waitresses wear ankle bracelets
>(is that the correct terminology?)  These girls are mostly high school or
>college age.



Oh now who let the workslaves out of the gallery??  I told them not to
detach the ankle chains until they had completed the training process.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:18:36 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <4516@cvbnetPrime.COM> tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy McInerney x0 14-2) writes:
] 
] Ohhhhh, stuff it huh!
] Give me a break kid....

    "Kid"?

] First: Never consider yourself the majority of the world.
]        There is no such thing...

    You know, Jews (esp. in Iowa, I'm sure) realize we're in a distinct
minority.  If I might say, it's given us a humility a lot of Christians
could do well with,...

] Second: So if you met a wonderful ethnic woman whom you loved very
] 	much, and couldn't live without, you would pass her up on
] 	religious grounds?

    Myself, probably not.  I'm not at all religious.  But, since I'd
expect she'd want to raise our children in her religion, that *might* be
a problem.  Do you want children?  Would you want them raised as (GASP!)
Jews?  Or Muslims, or Catholics, or Presbyterians?  Would it matter to
you?

    (And, who said Jews weren't an ethnicity, anyway?)

] I think it's about time humans got over limiting themselves to 
] "their own kind"  let me tell ya, we are all the same kind, 

    I don't think I'm the same kind as you.  Not necessarily a flame,
just a personal observation.  Do you think you're the same as me?  That
we're interchangeable?

    And fix your reply address, huh?

    To get back to Shelley's question,... As Keith said, there is an
all-Jewish personals mailing list, but I don't know the address; perhaps
a post to alt.personals will get that for you.

    (Does anyone remember that, when the list was first advertised here,
someone complained that he couldn't join, because he wasn't Jewish?
Mahnish tah nah,... (sp?))

                                           -- Bill K.

Bill Kaufman,          | "...all conscious species are plastic and
Corporate Lackey       |  all plastic species are conscious."
wkaufman@us.oracle.com |                     -- Yew-Kwang Ng
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: We're Being Repressed!!!!!
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:03:07 GMT

pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
] 
] I don't know why either, but if I scratch my PSOM's balls
] in the morning and then bring him a cup of coffee, he's
] extremely pliable for the rest of the day.

Notice the Represssion Inherent in the system!!!!


no, hold it, I want the other line:

"Bring out your Dead! Bring Out Your Dead!"

oops, not that one....

"Some Watery Tart Lobbing a symatar is not ...."

One More Try folks.....

"and Now, for something completely different....."


ciao
drieux



-- 
Modern Day Problems:

This is Not a .sigfile addendum to the Post.
You are just reading beyond the edge.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:24:50 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.080324.23379@emr1.emr.ca> taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor) writes:
|
|Age is irrelevent
|
|
|Who really cares ????
|
|People are people

That will be enough of that, Trevor.  We can't have you summarizing threads
like this with comments that actually make sense.  Next thing you know you'll
offer a logical summary for the Nice Guy (TM) thread.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: bbs.mickeyf@tsoft.net (Mickey Ferguson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:25:20 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

I remember back in college we had a "best pickup lines" contest, and one 
jerk had a really gross one I thought I'd share:

"You smell wet; let's party!" -- Pete Herz, 1980, Carnegie-Mellon.

(quoted without permission)

--
Mickey Ferguson (bbs.mickeyf@tsoft.net)
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A small question.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:07:06 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: gt7760a@prism.gatech.EDU's message of 21 Dec 92 21:43:15 GMT

gt7760a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tri Q. Luong) writes:

	   I just have a small question.  If a couple break up before and
	   get back together again.  What are the chances that they will break
	   up again?  Anybody or know anyone experienced this before? 

The chances depend on whether the couple has resolved whatever problem(s)
caused them to break up in the first place.  Sometimes it's easy to get
nostalgic about the "good old days" and conveniently forget about the
days that weren't so good.  Or new areas of conflict might have arisen
in the meantime.

And yes, in case it isn't obvious, I've been there before....

-Sandra
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 17:16:37 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Dec29.190845.12786@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> masterov@cstr.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael Masterov) writes:
>>(how many of *you* were shown slides of fun positions in *your* church's
>>Sex Ed classes?)
>
>Well, don't keep us in suspense!  What  church is this?  How can we join? :)

And does this mean that instead of "the missionary position" you had
"the missionary chapter"?
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Tell Me Something about Balls
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:52:21 GMT

In article <75897@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
>
>I don't know why either, but if I scratch my PSOM's balls
>in the morning and then bring him a cup of coffee, he's
>extremely pliable for the rest of the day.

PSOM?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 8 days and counting
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 28 Dec 1992 17:56:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

> In <19DEC199217020049@acad3.alaska.edu> ftlao@acad3.alaska.edu (OSSANDER LINDA A) writes:
> 
> >Hi I am new to this group. ;-)  Just wanted to say: "Rob" You are the kind of
> >man I stay away from.  Grin..I was married to one that sounds like you for
> >nearly 20 years.  I would prefur to be alone.  Have a nice day!

I highly doubt that any man of Rob's warmth and intelligence would go 
near you.

> As a final comment, if you wish to dislike and insult me, I'd very much
> prefer you to simply do so without bothering with the smiley face, the
> grin and the "Have a nice day!" admonition.  That seems quite insincere.

Doing so makes me think that you're the type of bimbo who still dots her i's
with smiley faces 30+ years after leaving jr. high.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:29:54 GMT

In article <lk0ssdINNqp@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.191904.13752@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>> 
>> Just to set the record straight, I'm not letting those chains get used
>> on me.
>
>Well, of course not, silly.  Pooh said that the handcuffs were for me,
>after all.  No really, I insist.

Oh, OK.  I'll be glad to help if you like.  Never let it be said that
I'm not an accomodating person.  Ask the ProblemOlderWoman if you don't
believe me.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 2 days and counting
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:23:01 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
 <16107@auspex-gw.auspex.com> <1992Dec30.042120.26772@netcom.com>

In article <1992Dec30.042120.26772@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green
Dancing Machine) says:
>
>(Just using this as an excuse for posting my obnoxious .sig. ;-)
>--
>                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                             @netcom.com
>
>Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
>
>Virtual anniversary: 2 days and counting
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does anyone else have a deep sense of forboding about this?

I am afflicted with visions of something numbingly, oozingly,
clingly cute; marzipan My Little Ponies in fourty pastel
decorator colours being shown on strobed slide projectors
to people fed for the last three weeks on a diet of cold
Kraft Dinner made with powdered skim milk about covers it.

Or am I just too suspicious?

Graydon
From: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Breaking up is hard to do....
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:21:59 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Now that the holidays are gone, 'tis the season to revise relationships
(don't know why, but it seems to be happening alot).  My question:
 
What do you do when you know it is over/you find yourself uninterested/
you want to be moving on?
 
 
--j
  
<ref:  comrade and I having a large difference of opinion about the
        "just stop calling and eventually the person figures it out"
        method.  I am curious how pervasive it is.>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:53:07 GMT

In article <JoeMan.10.724984859@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
>
>Magazine model?  Naah. To much compitition. Besides, my exgirlfriend was
>on that caliber, and I usually got pissed off at the number of guys
>that approached her.  What ended it was her cheating on me.

Maybe she got sick of you getting all ruffled whenever a guy
talked to her?

>Going
>out with a woman that is a 10 or damb close to it is not my idea of fun
>anymore, to much maintanance.

Really!  She's got to get up awful early to get herself all spoofed up
for you so she meets your high standards.

>As for your A B and C choices, (A) I did 
>lower my standards somewhat, but it is hard for me to change because I am 
>pretty much spoiled when it comes HOT women.  BUT if her personality is 
>outstanding I often will not place so much on how she looks.

What if she looks HOT and has the personality of a gold filling?
Make the grade?

>WHY lower my standards and get someone I don't want when I can wait a little
>lower and find someone I do want?  Makes sense to me. I am on a college 
>campus, so it is not like I am restricted from meeting new woman every day.
>I go to a school of over 20,000 people, 10,000 of which are female.  I have
>10,000 females to meet!

Oh, you're in college.  I remember college.

Nevermind.

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