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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Vitale's Basketball Rag
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:02:02 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <matthew.718911714@base.cs.ucla.edu>, matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>>2nd Team
>>C Eric Montross, UNC
>> All-ACC: Doug Edwards, FSU; Grant Hill, Duke; Rodney Rogers, Wake;
>>          Sam Cassell, FSU; Bobby Hurley, Duke;
>I'm not arguing the merits of Montross here.  A 2nd team all-american
>should be on the all-conference team - no matter what the conference.

Well, Matt, you must remember that Dickie V did not write the ACC section,
and in fact issued a disclaimer at the beginning of the mag saying that he
did not necessarily agree with the opinions of the other writers in the
mag.  And I did point out that the author of the section was different than
Dick's picks.  
  And besides, the ACC doesn't have any good centers and its forwards are
better than its centers...:-)  

	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Well, he's not the most intelligent guy in the world."
			--MTV VJ Duff, on dinner partner Christian Laettner
From: markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (mark t schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Rollie eats pasta in Vegas now.(UCSB, short report)
Keywords: Big West, UNLV
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:01:29 GMT

In <92458@netnews.upenn.edu> arent@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William J. Arent) writes:

>Any thought on how Rollie will do at UNLV?  He's one of 
>the best if not the best game-day coaches in college bball.

>Now HE has the talent (relatively speaking again) in the Big West.

>What are there chances of winning the Big West (scouting report
>of other teams)?

UCSB--> the gauchos return 2 starters (Ray Kelly, PG, lightning quik,
exciting player, sr. Mike Meyer, Swing, fundamentals, good shot that suffers
due to coach Pimm's conservative style, sr.). 

Other key returners:
    Idris Jones, SG, great 3-pt touch. He actually played more 
    than 20 minutes a game last year as the 6th man. Might see some
    time in a back-up PG role.
    Doug Muse, C, powerful, intense. He was a great back-up last
    year as a freshman. He should be more mature this year and not
    foul out every other game like he did last season.
    Paul Johnson, Swing, athlete, great d. He returns this year
    after sitting out last season due to a shoulder injury.
    He should shine this year, his senior year.

Key newcomers:
    Chris Ford, SG, great athlete, red-shirt freshman. Great player
    in high-school (from LA). Should see a lot of time off the bench.
    Rob Ramaker, F, great touch, freshman. This local player will
    give Santa Barbara consistant outside shooting. Needs to bulk up.

Other things:
    This gaucho team will lack depth at the center and PF positions
    (what else is new?), just like last season. Another great group
    of guards (Kelly, Jones, Meyer, Johnson, and Ford) will lead
    the team. 
    Hopefully coach Jerry Pimm will wake up this year and let this
    team do what it must to win--> RUN. Jerry is a great defensive
    coach but his teams usually lack confidence on the offensive end
    due to his deliberate and conservative style. We shall see if 
    he can keep up the great D, but let his guards run the O.

This is a veteran team with some great athletes. They *should* make
the NCAA's, provided they can keep from getting over-confident against
teams in the Big West that they are much better than (Irvine, Reno,
Pacific, etc.). This has been a problem in the past.
They will challenge the good teams (UNLV and New Mexico St.) at home
in the Thunderdome. I think this team has a solid chance to take
second in the Big West. (In fact, I would be surprised if they did
any better or worse. But with Tark gone, who knows...)....

mark.

"All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies."
					-John Arbuthnot
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:29:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccall.1992Oct9.112934
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <5922@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>How about:
>  Kansas-Missouri (the range war)

Kansas-KansasSt
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From: seth@mivax.mc.duke.edu (HM/HS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Summary: Execution!
Keywords: Bribe, Referees
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:17:00 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6002@news.
>  Personally, I think it was that damned 4 corners that Dean used to run
>that turned so many people off! :-)  
>	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)

   Not only that, but the referees tended to favor Carolina.  I know this
sounds like whining (I save bandwidth by flaming myself...) from a Duke fan,
but I've heard other ACC fans make the same complaint.  There was one time when
Dean Smith pounded his fist on the scorers table so hard, he changed the score!
   Dean didn't even get a technical (though they did correct the score).
[End of file]
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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: Blount done at Cincinnati
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:12:53 GMT

The starting center for the majority of UC's games last year has
lost his appeal (as expected) to the NCAA to play for the Bearcats.
Apparently Corrie Blount was given what he thought was a medical redshirt
after playing four games of junior college. I believe that the NCAA did
not permit juco medical redshirts at this time, thus using up a year
of eligibility. Therefore, last year was actually his senior year at UC.
I heard the story concerning the reshirt second hand, so any additional
info is appreciated.
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:12:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.Bw4tox.Dx
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Oct14.185951.7184@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>In article <26336@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>>
>>It's too bad UCLA hasn't won any national championship ever since the 
>>1970's.  UCLA is facing the reality today where college basketball is 
>>more balanced, and all colleges have chances to get top players and 
>>go for the national championships.  That is why Duke's finishing in 
>>the Final Four five times in the past six years and winning two straight 
>>national championships is a remarkable feat.
>>
>>The NC banners lose their appeal with time, and it certainly looks
>>like UCLA won't be putting up any more NC banners for some time to come.
>>
>>Furthermore, UCLA's not putting up the conference championship banners
>>suggests that there is no pride in winning championships in a weak
>>conference.  I still remember people complaining about UCLA's playing
>>in a weak conference in the 1960's and 1970's.

This really is weak.  This whole thing is supposed to be a joke, anyway.  
Lighten up a little.  If Trent wants to reminisce about times that will
never be repeated by anyone (i.e. ten titles in 12 years), let him.  We
know the deal.

>Come on Dukies. Your team is defending national champions. They're on
>the cover of Parade magazine. Even Marilyn Vos Savant acknowledges
>them as stellar athletes and gentlemen. Still, the question remains:
>
>Do any of you have a sense of humour? 
>
>Ken B. 

I think the more important question is whether any of us put any faith in
the words of Trent Lange.  :)
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Griffith Cancels OSU Visit
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:57:22 CDT

In article <Bw36us.IsG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell) writes:
>(by Doug Griffiths, Gold & Black Illustrated, Oct. 16, 1992)
>
>Griffith, a 7-1, 260-pound center, took his first official visit to 
>Wisconsin Oct. 3-4 and said he liked what he saw.
>
>"Wisconsin was nice and I had a nice time," Griffith said.  "They showed
>me a good time.  One of the good points was the School of Business and I
>want to major in business.  Also they're a rebuilding team and that's 
>another strong point. 
>
>"I haven't made my decision yet.  All of them stand in the same place
>still.  I'm going to take all of my visits and narrow it down to my final
>two.  I don't know who those are going to be right now."
>
>Griffith and his mother were at Purdue for an unofficial visit Sept. 11-12.
>"The Purdue visit then was nice," she said.  "We didn't get to se much.  
>We'll see more things, like the dorms, when we make our official visit at
>the end of the month."

It sounds to me like it is down two his final two choices.  I imagine the
key here will be his Purdue visit.  Gee, I'm sort of split here.  Purdue is
my alma mater and favorite team, but I'd love to see a real 7-footer
playing every game at the Fieldhouse.  Either way, it sounds like a good
deal for me (unless Griffith ends up a stiff and then this talk is
meaningless).
-- 

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:17:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Oct7.100151.26075@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>james.f.whitehead writes:
>>...
>>to pay for it. If you want information bordering on an obsession with
>>trivia (and you ARE reading this group, after all) get the Blue Ribbon book.
>>It comes out about mid-November and is more up-to-date and detailed than
>>S&S, etc.
>>
>Pardon. I read this group for anthropological reasons. 
>By the way, just what is a "woof"? And how does one pronounce "!!!"? 
>Coach Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Season: 1-5 Lifetime: 1-7

Anyone who has read this newsgroup as long as Coach Davis has, certainly
knows what a "woof" is.  Anthropologically or anthropomorphically.

And "!!!" isn't pronounced.  It is a state of mind...

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Street & Smith's Has Arrived!!!
Keywords: Top 25, conferences, All-Americans
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:06:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>>11. UNC Charlotte  <----
>>

>I don't know.  Somebody had to be smoking some heavy ganja to put UNC-Charlotte
>11th.  Can anybody justify this?  Are they that incredible team nobody knows
>about, or is this the result of a big cloud of smoke in the office?

	I wondered about this one myself.  Sure, they do return superstar
	Jarvis Lang -- but is he totally recovered from the injury that put
	him out last season?  Plus, the Niners have to recover from losing
	main main Henry Williams to the NBA.  Two big question marks and
	they're ranked #11?  Heck, I would put them third in their own
	conference, behind Tulane & Louisville...

	Jazzy J
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:02:18 EDT
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: It's 10/15, and no practice :(

Well it is October 15, the traditional beginning of college hoops practice, and
the balls aren't bouncing, the whistles aren't blowing...  The NCAA in its
infinite wisdom pushed the beginning of practice back to November 1, to give
the players more time to study.  What a crock!  Doesn't the NCAA realize that
the players have been practicing since the first day of classes.  Not organized
practice mind you, but on all campuses, the players get together to run, lift
weight and play for several hours each day.  Practice with coaches is just more
organized.  Oh well, who ever said the NCAA was intelligent.  I go through
nostalgia every October 15 because it was always the funnest day of practice,
everyone is pumped for the season...  Well, only 17 days until November 1.
Kevin
From: melchijr@expert.cc.purdue.edu (jason r. melchi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: NBA Fantasy League
Summary: I am interested in your fantasy league and I'm new at this posting
	 news stuff.  I'm not able to E-Mail Jon Blixt, but if you can contact
	 me at melchijr@expert.cc.purdue.edu I'd like more info and joining
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:37:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <48564@shamash.cdc.com>, jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt) writes:
> CROSSPOST
> 
> I am starting a fantasy league over the internet called RUBL.
> Real Usenet Basketball League.
> 
> All those interested in joining or who want more info, just
> e-mail me.
> 
> This league uses NBA players and lasts the entire season so
> sign up only if you are seriously interested.
> 
> RUBL commish,
> 
> Jon

For some reason our computers won't E-Mail to your address.  If you

can E-Mail me directly at my address I'd be interested in joining

your league.  I'd also want more info on it.

      my address:  melchijr@expert.cc.purdue.edu
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From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Originator: currin@poult3.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:04:56 GMT



|>
|>
|>	Without a doubt it has to be .........
|>		PURDUE vs. I.U.
|>This is a game that the entire state takes time out to watch.
|>
|>
|>
|>----------------- Matt K.
|>

One year Reagan's State of the Union address was prempted so North Carolians 
could watch the State-UNC game.

RC 
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 19:24:04 GMT

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>arent@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William J. Arent) writes:
>>I haven't posted to r.s.b.c. in a LONG time so don't give me the
>>same treatment that fellow in AriZOnA gets ...
>>
>>Two comments:
>>1. I'm from the West and really don't see what's the big rivalry 
>>   between Indiana and Purdue.  The history is there, I concede, but
>>   Purdue just hasn't matched up with them for quite a while (not
>>   since the unfulfilled days of Everett Stephens, Mitchell, etc in 198_?
>>   I'd rather watch an Indiana-Michigan game, since that one might
>>   be CONTESTED.
>
>Oh, really?  Why don't you look at how the series has gone the last few
>years?  Purdue upset IU last year in Mackey, so it was a split.  IU did
>sweep Purdue two years ago, but the game in Mackey went down to the final
>minute.  Three years ago (1989-1990), Purdue swept IU, with a team of Tony
>Jones, Ryan Berning, Steve Scheffler, et al.
>
>I just love it when IDIOTS like yourself don't know what the hell they are
>talking about.  You may not consider the series a big rivalry, but it
>certainly has been CONTESTED.  What a $$&@^#&$%(*$#&!!!

Do you guys get the impression Brian is a Purdue fan?

-- 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Boeheim picker/eater (was: Tony Scott)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:42:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.142502.11913@cci632.cci.com> dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis  
Joyce) writes:
> Also he said that Coach Boeheim had a nasty habit of picking his nose 
> and eating it. Tony said that he said he did it all the time and that
> someone should stop him 'cause it was NASTY.

I wonder how long it will be before this ends up in:

1) Somebody's .signature
2) 60 Minutes
3) New York Times
4) Syracuse media guide


> 							Dennis J.

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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Street & Smith's Has Arrived!!!
Keywords: Top 25, conferences, All-Americans
Organization: Indiana Daily Student
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:22:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.151342.27382@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> erwinc@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher S. Erwin) writes:
>
>Well, Street & Smith's is out!  I haven't had much of a chance to
>go through it yet, but here is the top 25:
>
>1.  Kansas
>2.  Michigan
>3.  Indiana
>4.  Duke
>5.  Memphis State
>6.  Seton Hall
>7.  Kentucky
>8.  Arizona
>9.  Florida State
>10. North Carolina
>11. UNC Charlotte  <----
>12. Auburn
>13. Iowa
>14. UCLA
>15. Georgetown
>16. Nebraska
>17. Florida
>18. Iowa State
>19. Syracuse
>20. Texas
>21. Illinois
>22. Louisville
>23. Arizona State
>24. Georgia Tech
>25. Tulane
>
>I'll leave the commenting to you guys, but my drug-inducement theory
>may have been shot to hell with this one.  An interesting list.

I don't know.  Somebody had to be smoking some heavy ganja to put UNC-Charlotte
11th.  Can anybody justify this?  Are they that incredible team nobody knows
about, or is this the result of a big cloud of smoke in the office?
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From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Da Poll is Back!!!! (Top 25, Weekly)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:16:01 GMT




Since I now have a somewhat consistent Internet connection, I will
offer to run the rsbb.college poll this year.  I plan for this to be
a bit better run than last years's, as I don't expect to lose my account
halfway through the season.

For those who remember, this will be the same as the poll was run over the
last 3 years or so, started by James Armstrong and continued by me after
he went to the West Coast and lost Internet access.

Soon, I will post the directions for the poll and the official list of
Division I teams you may choose from.  After Gidi corrects my list, I'll
post the correct list.

I'll post this announcement every week or so up until the first week of the
season.  The poll will be run every week of the basketball season until the
end of the conference tournaments.  There will be an interruption the week of
Christmas.

I will accept preseason poll ballots until November 10, and I will post
the results on Wednesday, November 11.


Those familiar with the format may send in your preseason top 25 as soon as
you're ready.


Ballots are not like the ones in rsf.college.

OK, a sample:

1.  Duke
2.  Michigan
3.  Seton Hall
4.  UMASS!!!
5.  Kentucky
6.
...
24. Princeton
25. Prairie View


------

Basically, any team name that is reasonable (UNC, North Carolina; UConn,
Connecticut; Massachusetts, UMass, UMASS!!!; West Virginia, WVU) will
be counted by the software.


You may vote for up to 25 teams.  Less is fine; more is not.


I plan to have the software automagically email you a vote request after
you vote the first time.  In this way, I hope to keep voter participation
high.




Thank you for your support.




Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: In Defense of the Dome
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:56:31 GMT

In article <9210071530.AA10140@walt.disney> chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)  
writes:
> And it's still true that it's hard to win a game at Carolina, although
> it's not nearly as difficult as it was when Carmichael was in use (now
> that was a hard place to play!).

And a lot of teams are intimidated coming in because of Carolina's
impressive record there, as well as the spectre of Dean (and even
his coaching).

> Curtis Hill
> star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org

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