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From: jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:02:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.174620.7067@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>
>As you may have guessed CU still sells beer at football games. Our basketball
>arena is even called the "COORS EVENT CENTER" because they dontated $5 million 
>to the school. Unfortunately coors is the only beer they sell :-(
>
>What CU has done to try to keep the roudiness of games down is to move the
>kick-off time from 2pm to 12pm. This is two hours less of pre-game festivities.
>It seems to have worked because last years two night games were noticably more
>roudy than the day games.
>
>	-ethan

A bit of an aside.  I used to work some Patriots games at Foxboro Stadium MA
They would stop selling beer sometime during the third quarter of all 
games held there.

>
>--
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Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers! 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:10:30 GMT

In article <63991@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) wrote:
>}
>}I've always heard that Notre Dame's "no freshman redshirt" policy is viewed
>}by the coaches as a recruiting minus, not a plus.  Lou Holtz wants Notre
>}Dame to change the policy, for that reason and some others.  If it really
>}induced players to come to Notre Dame, would not Holtz fight to preserve
>}it?  

Wait a minute, clear up some confusion below - 

On the one hand, 

>He [Holtz]  probably figures it's an inducement he doesn't need, 

while, on the other, 

>There are certainly cases where the "no redshirt" rule hinders rather
>than helps recruiting 
>but on the whole my bet is it helps.

So you're saying Holtz is a stupid recruiter, who wants to throw away a
net advantage for a few cases?  Or that he recognizes that the "no redshirt"
rule is an unfair advantage for Notre Dame recruiting and wants to even
the playing field?  Neither notion fits too well with the Holtz I've read
about.

In my opinion, Holtz, or any other coach, will not disregard *any* legal
inducement he can make, or give away *any* of them.  Holtz doesn't get
every single athlete he wants, so I feel pretty sure that he's not willing
to surrender something that usually works in his favor.  The fact that
he feels strongly enough about the issue to pressure the administration
to do something it doesn't want to suggests to me that he feels strongly
that he's losing out because of the "no redshirt" policy.

I see little or no recruiting advantage to the "no redshirt" rule, in almost
all cases.  Do you know of even one case where an athlete came to Notre
Dame because he was certain he wouldn't be redshirted?

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Best (or worst) Nicknames
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:58:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.094403.16996@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>As long as we are talking about uniforms and stadiums (or is it stadia?) we
>might as well talk about nicknames.
>
>Some interesting monickers:
>
>Akron Zips

Stuff deleted

>While on the subject, in West Virginia, there is a Poca High School.  Yes, 
>their teams are called the Dots.
>
>There is a school in California that calls its athletic teams the Bannana
>Slugs.  Anybody know who that is?
>
>PDunn

UC Santa Cruz natch.

BTW Miami has the best uniforms, Penn State and ND the worst.

John
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From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:48:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.194805.20478@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes...
#I kind of see that Heisman race a bit different.  Ismail didn't win, not 
#because there was anti Notre Dame bias, but because he was a Junior.  It is 
#only very recently that Juniors have been given a great deal of Heisman 
#consideration.  Of course, I could also be full of it  . . . :-)

Doesn't make sense:  the '90 Heisman trophy winner was Ty Detmer, also a
Junior.  Only eleven Juniors have won the award, four in the past four years:

1945 Doc Blanchard, Army
1948 Doak Walker, SMU
1950 Vic Janowicz, Ohio State
1963 Roger Staubach, Navy
1974 Archie Griffin, Ohio State
1978 Billy Sims, Oklahoma
1982 Herschel Walker, Georgia
1988 Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State
1989 Andre Ware, Houston
1990 Ty Detmer, BYU
1991 Desmond Howard, Michigan

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Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
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From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:27:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.140834.28315@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@bronte.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>
>Everyone who's writing in says that there are no beer sales
>at their perspective college.  Are there any stadiums
>out there that Do serve beer?  Just curious.
>
>	Rob


   Three years back I was at the Astrodome for the Texas-UH game, and beer
   was available (of course, that was Andre Ware's year and I really
   appreciated the beer, but for which I couldnt have managed to sit through
   the massacre that UT underwent !)

   Again, Astrodome is an off-campus stadium.

   Jay
From: iftekhar@elm.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Iftekhar Hussain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Vols Chances for SEC
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:41:36 GMT
Reply-To: iftekhar@elm.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Iftekhar Hussain)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I think that Tennessee will win the SEC title this year. Their biggest
nemesis Bama will be playing at Knoxville. This means they can beat
Bama soundly. As far the rest of the schedule is concern it should be
a piece of cake for Vols .

-Ifty
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Pitt 1993 Schedule
Keywords: this is the way we wash our car
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:33:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.134509.22114@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
|> 
|> Okay, Harry, instead of slinging mud it's time to put up or shut up.
|> I say Rutgers finishes with a better overall record than Pitt, THIS YEAR.
|> I'll send you a new Rutgers T-shirt if they don't, providing you send me
|> a new Pitt shirt if they do.  I wear size L (if 100% cotton; otherwise,
                                             ^
|> an M will fit nicely.)    Well??????????
      ^
Wait a second, Bob.  Won't a size XL Pitt shirt clean your hubcaps better 
than just a size M or L? :-)

|> "Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: New poster
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:50:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.214956.1323@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:

>
>	3.  The best tailgating I've experienced is at th Florida-Georgia game
>in Jacksonville.  The Gator Bowl is surrounded by football fanatics of all
>stripes, and the food and beer are plentiful. Both sides are in a good mood,
>only one of which will be happy at the end of the game.  Then, there usually is
>a party in downtown Jacksonville after the game in which both sides usually
>participate.

They dont call this game "The Worlds Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party" for
nothin.....


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hunter@wpi.WPI.EDU (George M. Berberian)
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:49:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.183946.22948@alw.nih.gov> ravi@alw.nih.gov (Ravi Boddapati) writes:
>I hate Notre Dame and its football team!  I was wondering howmany others
>share the same feelings.  Ofcourse, you don't have to have a valid reason
>for hating something or somebody.
>
>So, I have come up with an idea.  Let's make a survey on the net and see
>the general feelings towards Notre Dame.
>
>All you have to do is add your name under the appropriate column below.
>I would be glad to summarize the results, later.
>
>
>I hate Notre Dame				I don't
>*****************			*********************
>Ravi Boddapati - ravi@helix.nih.gov   hunter@wpi.wpi.edu (GREAT football)
>
>No flames please.
>
>-- Ravi
>
>	Ravi Boddapati 			phone: (301) 496 0331 
>	Building 12A, Room B57		uucp: uunet!helix!ravi
>	National Institutes of Health	Internet: ravi@helix.nih.gov
>	Bethesda, MD 20892


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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:50:26 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

This thread is stupid.
-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:37:53 GMT

Mark Mitchell writes:

>A very notable flaw would have been a failure to match
>Notre Dame with unbeaten #4 West Virginia in 1988.

Really?  I thought it would have.  Maybe that was just in its original form.  
Who was #2 that year?  Also, I though West Virginia entered the Fiesta ranked 
#3.

     - Pat
.
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: The Net Idiot (was Re: OU & Canes)
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:37:15 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Jul28.141028.25164@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>>>
>>>I suppose you consider Oklahoma to be a patsie too? The team that had a 33-2
>>>record for the previous 3 years before Miami beat them for their first MNC?
>>                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I thought that was Nebraska.  21-20, 2-pt conversion goal-line stand, etc.
>>
>>>Get off
>>>your high horse it'll give you a nose bleed. You guys are just pissed because
>>>the power in college football is no longer in your hands. It's now in the
>>>hands of the Canes, Huskies, and Noles and your team is being relegated to
>>>the back seat, pompous attitudes and all.
>>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>The black pot rambling on about the kettle, obviously.
>>          | |_
>>>         |___=>>> John "Dolphinatic" Turman
>>


>You're right about the first MNC being against the Huskers and I realized this
>just as I hit the return key after typing send. And just for the record I am
>not black I'm caucasoid.                        


>And of course you being from LSU it's obvious why you'd want to take a 
>shot at a Canes lover. Get ready for another choke season for the pussycats.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>John "Dolphinatic" Turman

Keep these wonderful cards and letters coming, John.  It saves me the
keystrokes of having to PROVE what a gimp you are.

Ya know, John kinda brings a likeness of "alt.binaries.pictures" to our
little humble r.s.f.c. group.  I come in and read off 12 articles in a
row:
	gimp1.gif 1/12
	gimp1.gif 2/12
	gimp1.gif 3/12 
		.	
		.	
		.	
	gimp1.gif 12/12 

Piece them all together, uncode 'em, and there you are.  Lifesize
gimpness.

Party on, John.
(no smiley's intended)

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From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Southern Cal Scout Report?
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:14:34 GMT

So what's the scouting report on Southern Cal this year?  I hope to go to
the ND@USC game, and I heard that BGI (the Notre Dame propaganda rag) picks
USC to win by one.  When I look at the history of the series, I think any-
thing is possible.  I know how they did last year, but I was wondering if
anyone had any specifics.
Who was lost? Who is returning? Strengths? Weaknesses?


-Mike Noonan
From: tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Heisman Poll Update
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:49:01 GMT
Organization: University Relations - Diane, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Sorry, I forgot to sort these last time.

Here are the current standings in the Heisman Poll......

Marshall Faulk, RB    San Diego State     51 pts.
Russell White, RB     California          29 pts.
Shane Matthews, QB    Florida             26 pts.
Jerome Bettis, RB     Notre Dame          20 pts.
Trevor Cobb, RB       Rice                16 pts.
O.J. McDuffie, WR     Penn State          13 pts.
Qadry Ismail, WR      Syracuse            12 pts.
Shawn Jones, QB       Georgia Tech        11 pts.
Rick Mirer, QB        Notre Dame          11 pts.
Drew Bledsoe, QB      Washington State     9 pts.
Derek Brown, RB       Nebraska             8 pts.
Billy Joe Hobert, QB  Washington           6 pts.
Greg Hill, ?          Texas A&M            6 pts.
Beno Bryant, RB       Wahington            6 pts.
Marvin Jones, LB      Florida State        5 pts.
Glyn Milburn, LB      Stanford             4 pts.
Kevin Willams, KR     Miami (FL)           4 pts.
Gino Torretta, QB     Miami (FL)           3 pts.
Errick Rhett, RB      Florida              3 pts.
Cale Gundy, QB        Oklahoma             1 pt.
Elvis Grbac, QB       Michigan             1 pt.
Eric Zeier, QB        Georgia              1 pt.
Marvin Graves, QB     Syracuse             1 pt.
Ricky Powers, ?       ?                    1 pt.
Tracy Saul, ?         Texas Tech           1 pt.
Dana Hughes, ?        Iowa                 1 pt.
"Duece", ?            Alabama              1 pt.     

Please continue to send in your votes and I will update this periodically.

Make sure you send your top 3 picks!

-Todd

tf0y@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: Where is Nebraska Marty? (Was Re: On-Field College Mascots
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:02:34 GMT

--
>Careful, Guy, you don't want to start another one of those "Oranges on the    
>Field" type controversies.  That's a pretty good Nebraska Marty imitation, 
>though.  What happened to that guy, anyways?

>GT

"That Guy" is alive, well and mostly in read-only mode. What else can you do
when your team sucked eggs in the last 5 or so bowls and your team has a coach
who is stuck in the 70's.   ;^)

Besides - the content of my previous posts were accepted or rejected depending on your perspective. There are a lot of NU fans who sent me Email last year saying that they agree with me. It's just that not everyone will say publicly what they REALLY think. Of course the CU bandwagon "fans" (There did not seem to be many of them around BEFORE the last 3 years - Ohhh, I did it again. Now
another "you know what" storm is gonna start) jumped all over me because they
can't handle any view in contrast with the hype they get from KOA and Denver
TV station 4. ( Ohhh geeesh I'm REALLY asking for it now) And you KNOW who you
are.  ;^)

Regardless - if you look at a post I did a few months ago you will see that
I predict 3rd for the Huskers in the Big-8 * IF * OU and CU successfully
convert over to the passing game. My view is that * IF * those schools can
convert with a good degree of success then it does not matter if NU has the
most talent or not - they WILL get beat by both.

Nebraska hasent EVER stopped a "really good" passing team and they won't ever
untill Coach Osborne gets:

	1. A better Defensive coordinator than Charlie McBride
	2. A passing game of his own (How can your D stop a good passing
	   game when they don't practice against one all week?)

As for you NU fans who are thinking "TRAITOR", just look at the facts and
I think they back up what I am saying.

I just hope I'm dead wrong about this year - GO HUSKERS NO MATTER WHAT, I'll
be pullin for ya ALL THE WAY - It's in my blood.

Husker Henderson  (Nebraska Marty was getting old)

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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PSU Dress Code / No Smoking
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:48:39 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <92205.135530KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> <KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> In article <92205.065310FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>, <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>   Fred Rozenblad
> says:

> By the way, Penn State just announced a no-smoking policy in the stadium.
> I say it's about damned time. Smokers had the attitude that just because they
> were outside they "couldn't possibly be bothering anyone". Meanwhile those
> around them were gagging and waving the smoke away all day long to see the
> game.  Is this policy leading-edge or has Penn State been lagging behind the
> rest of the country? I'm a little curious.

  Well, Kyle Field at A&M had had a no-smoking policy for about 3 years or 
so.  Haven't seen it enforced, but then, I haven't seen anyone breaking it
either.

  This is, of course from the student side, where we're all standing for three
hours in all kinds of weather.  It's usually too crowded in the good seats(?)
for anyone to even consider scratching an itch, much less smoking.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:46:42 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul27.161029.19298@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>In article <9920@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul21.184908.4412@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>>>TRUE?!?! You tell me. I sure like "Rooooooooollllllllll Tide" a lot better
>>>than "go elephants" but thats just me.....
>>
>>I dunno, Rob. I mean, Elephants are mighty, intelligent, elegant
>>creatures. You'd rather your team be named after a massive bacterial
>>infection???

Being that massive bacterial infections are much more common 'round bama than
elephants, yes, I would rather that be the name of my team.


-rob
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.173929.17121@news.iastate.edu>, jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes...
#Teams with meteorological phenomenon for nicknames and flying creatures
#for mascots:
# 
#Miami (FL) Hurricanes  (sorry, don't know the exact name of the waterfoul)

It's an Ibis.  A stork-like bird that is supposedly the last animal to take
refuge before a Hurricane and the first to appear after the Hurricane has
passed.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@UBVMS.BITNET
From: ped@crchh7.BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: A&M Football schedule request...
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:24:35 GMT
Reply-To: ped@crchh7.BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Howdy!  Could someone please e-mail me or post the schedule for the
Fightin' Texas Aggie Football Team?  I left my old-Ag magazine at home
and some needs the schedule here at work.  Thank you in advance.

Cheerio,

Pedro '90

Name:	  Pedro C. Luna	                      |   
E-mail:   ped@x400gate.bnr.ca                 |   
Org:      Bell-Northern Research              |

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