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From: delisle@eskimo.com (Ben Delisle)
Newsgroups: pnw.general,seattle.general
Subject: Victoria B.C. and Raw Sewage
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:10:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: eskimo.1992Nov22.231026.1365
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-


	In today's (Sun, Nov 22, 92) Seattle times on page B2,
I read that Victoria B.C. continues to dump raw sewage directly in to the 
Strait of Jaun de Fuca. In a vote by the people of that city they 
overwhelmingly rejected city proposals to treat the city's sewage
before it is discharged in to the Strait. Aparently Victoria is the
city of it's size on the West coast of North America that discharges
it's sewage into the sea without any treatment....
	Folks this is nasty, that (water) from the strait of Jaun de Fuca
flows into Puget Sound.
	Maybe it is time to pressure our government to pressure their
government into fixing this. Or (threaten a) boycott of B.C. and Victoria
B.C. products and tourism. 

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Newsgroups: pnw.general,or.general,pdx.computing
From: kurt@eskimo.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:31:48 GMT
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<

In article <1992Nov15.210057.28973@eaglet.rain.com> rick@eaglet.rain.com (Rick Lindsley) writes:
[...]
>I know one thing though. As long as the winning percentage is less than
>60%, maybe even 65%, the losing side will continue to bring the subject
>up for referendum again as often as the law permits.  I continue to
>think an exchange of reasonings and views will win more of the
>fence-sitters than an exchange of slings and arrows.
>
>Rick

This may or may not be the case.  I'm not arguing for abandonment of
"an exchange of reasonings and views".  I don't want to get into a pissing
contest with the pacifists over whose tactics are "most effective".
I would most strenuously object to *abandonment* of "exchange of slings and
arrows", like the pacifists and the OCA folks want us to do.

Look at history, folks.

The pacifists are fond of pointing out the gains made by the approaches of
Gandhi and Martin Luther King in their respective fights for their people,
and contrasting that to the "failed" approaches of the militants and
non-pacifists.  But actually, neither Gandhi nor King would have gotten
*anything* they wanted without the *presence* of other players in the game,
well-prepared to offer future scenarios far worse than any threat Gandhi and
King ever made.  Now Gandhi and/or King never had to, nor would they ever have,
mentioned that the Brits in the one case, and the US civic (both national and
local, all the way from Congress to local police departments) authorities
in the other, basically faced a binary choice: they either could sit down and
play ball with somebody willing to play by the rules and who had basically
good intentions *and* a stake in the system, OR deal with other angry, less
placable entities and groups who, perceiving that the "nice" approaches
failed, and not having any stake in the system, now see that there is
nothing to lose and everything to gain (namely, life itself) by casting
off all restraint.  Both were too sophisticated and shrewd to say that,
perhaps.  It must have occurred to the more perceptive Brits & US authorities,
though.  Result?  *presto*!  India becomes a country! the US blacks get civil
rights! [of course, we're not out of the woods yet, but everybody's better
off when the "nice" scenario is taken, capice, bunky??]

This is a scenario that has unfolded time and time again in history.
Ignore it at potentially great cost (and please note, this cost will *not*
be borne by those who already have nothing to lose.  Guess who that leaves?).
All of this, of course, is just IHMO.  Ciao.
-- 
kurt@grogatch.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Subvert the Anti-Gands!		F-IW	MYOB
From: dxxb@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barts)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Special Rights (was: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9)
Keywords: el-mundo-zurdo(Gloria Anzaldua),immediatism,anarchism,queers, feral-humans,freethinkers,[lL]ibertarians,gays-and-other-sex-radicals, strategy,tactics,intelligence,psy-ops,deception,disruption,memetics, screwing-things-up,aikido,entropy,doxies,o
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:43:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.174318.16475
Organization: University of Washington


Most hate crimes laws involve mandating the police to keep statistics
on things which are already crimes that are committed against
certain people or in certain circumstances.  These no more involve
special rights for gays/blacks/whatever than laws against burglary
confer special rights on homeowners (after all, to commit burglary,
one must first commit trespassing; thus burglars could be simply
prosecuted under laws against trespassing).

Such laws also might mandate special punishments for offenders;
again, I see this as no more of a threat than there being punishments
for burglary which are more severe than those for trespassing.
(Although IMO there's too much emphasis on our society on punishing
people for things and too little emphasis on preventing the crime
in the first place.  But I digress.)

Laws/policies/regulations which involve speech codes are an entirely
different matter.  The less said about them (and the less of them there
are), the better.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (uh-oh, did I just formulate
a speech code here? :-) ).

-- 
David Barts  N5JRN                      UW Civil Engineering, FX-10
davidb@ce.washington.edu                Seattle, WA  98195
From: hinrich@cqs.washington.edu (Rich Hinrichsen)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: HORNDOGS AT PIONEER SQUARE (SEATTLE)
Summary: New R&B Band
Keywords: Pioneer Square, Rhythm and blues
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:25:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: homer.hinrich.722233534
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington


Hello R&B lovers.

There is a new band in town called the Horndogs.
They will be playing at Larry's in Pioneer Square
every Tuesday night for the next several weeks. 

They play music from the 60's and 70's by
Wilson Picket, Aretha Franklin, Cold Blood,
Sam and Dave, ....

Instrumentation:

Horn section
trumpet 1 - Jeff Olson	     (of the Seattle Blues Review)
trumpet 2 - Paul Harshman
tenor sax - Kevin Lyons	     (of the Seattle Blues Review)
trombone  - Pat Moran        (of the Jazz Police)

Rhythm section
fender bass - Rich Hinrichsen**
guitar      - Nick Schauer**
drums	    - Mark Kilburn
keyboard    - Bob Baker**

** vocalists

Lead Vocalist
Miss Dawn Tyacke

Songlist:
Hold On, I'm Comin'		Sam and Dave
Soul Man			     ""
Mustang Sally			Wilson Picket
Midnight Hour			     ""
Crossfire			Stevie Ray Vaughn
Don't Treat Me Like Dirt	Cold Blood
Respect				Aretha Franklin
Chain of Fools			     ""

And many more .....

Larry's has a big dance floor, so come prepared to dance.
Music starts at 9:30 PM.
From: hzuker@sgihbtn.sierra.com (Hunter Zuker)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Inflation (of fears, not prices)
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:01:07 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Sierra Geophysics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov5.180526.19978@u.washington.edu>, monaghan@cac.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan ) writes:

>And again I ask, why such dire warnings?  
>
>According to Andrew Tobias (not known for his leftist leanings),
>with production capacity is at 76% and unemployment at 7%, there will be
>very little inflationary pressure.  Improvements in the infrastructure 
>(highways, high-speed rail, fiber-optics) will increase productivity,
>reducing inflationary pressures (Time, 11/2/92).

Inflation is more related to the amount of money that is being printed.
During the Carter administration, the printing presses were running
full-time to pay the bills.  This is the main cause of inflation, which is 
an indirect way to tax people without them knowing about it.

If there are a lot of new programs that are going to get started under
the new administration, printing money is a likely scenario to to
get them funded, since there will be pressure to keep the new taxes
down.  Or alternately, they may just print money to pay of the
deficit.

The gov't usually points the finger at companies or labor unions or
external factors as the source of inflation.  That is not true.  In
fact, the definition of inflation use to refer to private mints that
issued more paper notes than gold that they actually had.  

Now that were not on the gold standard, it's not as easy to understand
what is too much money being printed, but when this happens, you get
inflation.

-- 
        Hunter Zuker            (206) 822-5200     
        Sierra Geophysics       ...!uunet!sgihbtn!hzuker -OR-
        11255 Kirkland Way      hzuker@sierra
        Kirkland, WA  98033     
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale,rec.pets.dogs
From: brunson@Data-IO.COM (Kaye Brunson)
Subject: FREE, nice family dog -sheltie mix
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:05:44 GMT

I am posting this for a friend, but feel free to email me with
questions.

My friend has a dog she took in rather than let it go to the pound.
It's a one year old sheltie mix, medium sized.  It's playfull,
energetic, and protective.  He would make a great family dog.  He's
intelligent, had the basics of obedience training (sit, down, etc.)
He's "paper-trained" very well  - she's never had a problem.

Sadly, my friend doesn't have the time this dog needs.  She's working
full time and getting a Master's degree evenings, and already has
another dog.  She would like to have him adopted by a family who will
have the time to work and play with him, and give him the attention he
needs.  They are currently in the West Seattle area.

I'll be screening calls for her.  If you call evenings/weekends, before
8:30 please.
  
Kaye Trimbath
Data I/O Corporation
voice: (206) 867-6230
email: brunson@data-io.com
home (evenings): (206) 865-9691
From: Chris Kinsman <chrisk@remote.halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Mac SE/Adaptec 1642
Keywords: Mac SCSI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:07:25 PST
Reply-To: chrisk@lexsoft.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: LEX Software Systems, Inc.

I have a Mac SE20 w/ 2.5Meg of ram for sale.  External floppy
drive and all software and manuals I can dig up.  $700 obo

Unused Adaptec 1642 Microchannel SCSI adapter.  Still in original
box and was shrinkwrapped until first interest unwrapped it this week.
$250 obo.

Chris
From: watters@darwin.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Nikon F w/finder & lens
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:33:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov22.213354.2939
Organization: University of Washington

For Sale:
	Two Nikon F's w/ FTn finders (meter's active) and lens.

	#1-
		Chrome Nikon F
		Photomic FTn finder
		43-86 f3.5 zoom

	#2-
		Black Nikon F
		Photomic FTn finder
		50mm f1.4
		AS-2 shoe
		AR-1 release

	$300 for either set-up.  E-mail for conditions.  Feel free to make 
        offers.

mike

--
Mike
watters@genetics.washington.edu
Dept of Genetics, Univ of Washington  Seattle
(d) 206-543-1934   (e) 206-361-1156
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Sony cellular style cordless phone for sale
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:49:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov22.184946.25230
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

For Sale
Sony Cellular Style Cordless phone, BLACK color
Exelent condition
$60. obo
For more info call Darrell at (206)322-3510
From: ned@hardy.u.washington.edu (Shawn Morgan)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Snowboard for sale
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:36:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov20.033602.26174
Reply-To: ned@u.washington.edu
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

1990 Burton snowboard for sale.
 
     This is a 1990 Burton free-6, 160cm. It is a good all around mountain
     board. It was bought brand new last season, and has seen little use.
     It is a n excellent board for a beginner.
     
     asking $180 obo. contact- Shawn Morgan @ 284-7049
From: bellutta@ohsu.EDU (Paolo Bellutta)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Cd Player + cordless
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:08:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Nov16.190802.5410
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

Technics SLP350 Cd Player: 2 DAC converters, 4 times oversampling, 
digital output (coax), programming.  Remote control, Black finish. $220 obo

Panasonic cordless: 10 numbers memory, redial, tone/pulse dialling: $40 obo

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 _   /|  | Paolo Bellutta ---------- bellutta@ohsu.edu
 \'o.O'  | B.I.C.C - Oregon Health Sciences University
 =(_o_)= | 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. - Portland, OR
    U    | tel: (503) 494 4804 --- fax: (503) 494 4551
From: jimb@cac.washington.edu (James Beardsley )
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Wanted Welder
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:07:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.190718.17665
Distribution: pnw
Organization: UW Computing





 Wanted 110 volt 'buzz box' or mig welder
also 8' by 16' double axel utility trailer in good shape

send email to jimb@cac
From: jane@adpgate.UUCP (Jane Dunkin)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Cellular Phone for Sale
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:57:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: tongo.1747
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

I have a earlier model Motorola cellular phone that once-upon-a-time
must have cost close to $800 going for CHEAP.

The first person who offers me $50.00 for it, gets it.

Please leave a message with phone number at 229-4782 or send me an
e-mail!

-- 
jane  (jane%adpgate.UUCP@qiclab.scn.rain.com)
       or jane%adpgate@pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu) 

"I like my species the way it is."   -Lt. Worf
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale
From: spowers@spdg.com (Steve Powers)
Subject: bicycle for sale
Organization: Stratos Product Development Group (Seattle)
Distribution: pnw
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:35:15 GMT

                  touring bicycle for sale

                     trek 620 (silver)

        - 25" frame (measured center - center)
        - Sachs Huret front and rear derailleurs
        - 6 speed freewheel (13/15/17/20/24/28)
        - Maillard Helicomatic hubset
        - triple (50/45/28) Shimano crankset (170mm)
        - Shimano bottom bracket
        - SR pedals with toeclips and straps
        - 27" 36 spoke wheels with 27" x 1.25" tires
        - Dia Compe cantilever brakes
        - Blackburn rear rack
        - frame has brazed eyelets for front rack
        - dropouts threaded for fenders

    This is a well cared for touring bike, built to carry
    large loads. It is quite stable with properly loaded
    panniers and would make an excellent commuter bike
    with a set of fenders, light, etc. for a taller person
    (probably a 35"+ inseam).

    The bike is about 9 years old, but has been ridden less
    than 1000 miles. Paint has the usual scratches, etc. but is
    overall in good shape.
    
    I am asking $275/obo for this bike

    steve powers                                       w: (206) 448-1388
    spowers@spdg.com                                   h: (206) 524-6444
From: robd@shotgun.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Mobile home forsale - south of PDX metro
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:22:19 GMT
Reply-To: robd@orca.wv.tek.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Network Displays Reliability Engineering

Why rent when you can be buying? The following has been my home for 10 years.
Time to move on, so you can move in! 

By Owner: 1980 Fleetwood Wingate Mobile Home $14,000

14X60, 2 bedroom, 1 bath, wood stove, one year old top grade carpeting
and pad , all hardwood paneling, large front kitchen, storm windows
well maintained, 8X10 outside storage shed, set up in desirable West
Woodburn park, institution 80% financing available. Call 982-6005
evenings or daytime message for appointment to view.


          +====================================================+
          | Robert Dixon, Reliability Engineering Proj. Leader |
          | Tektronix, Inc., Network Displays Division (NWD)   |
          |             phone - (503) 685-2811                 |
          |         email - robd@shotgun.WV.TEK.COM            |
	  |              DoD #0176  AMA #(classified)          |
	  |             "I ride, therefore I am"               |
          +====================================================+
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Voicemail Card For IBM
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:51:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov20.045106.121
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Voicemail card for IBM
999 mailboxes
Message transfer to cellular phone; voice, tone, or numerical pager
Alarm input jack
Used by several 900 companies; start your own 900 number service or rent
out boxes.

Call Darrell at (206)322-3510 for more info
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Sony single disk CD Player for sale
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:52:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov22.185221.25422
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

CD player in exelent condition, black color
Has program, shuffle, and repeat
Fader function for recording
Has remote capability

Call Darrell for more info (206)322-3510 $97.00 obo
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Announcer Telephone Unit for sale
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:56:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov22.185628.25590
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

3 Line announcer unit for sale

This unit allows you to talk on one tel. line while automatically
answering the other two lines.   When you are finished talking on one line
you can answer one of the other two holding lines.  $500. new, now $250.
Never used and new in the box.

Call Darrell at (206)322-3510 for more info
From: miked@adpgate.UUCP ( ADP OPuS)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: CANON A1+5 Lenses
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:11:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: outland.1746
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


FOR SALE:  Canon A1 Camera body in mint condition:
also there are 5 lenses:

 50mm 1.4 fd (mint)
 19mm 3.5 fl (vg)
 28mm 2.8 fd (mint)
 135mm 3.5 fd (vg)
 200mm 4.0 fd (mint)

also: complete B&W and color filter set, and screw
in closeup lense set. Includes power winder and leather cases
as well as Vivitar hi power flash w/ ac adapter, and
many many accessories.

This is a very complete 35mm photography setup worth well
over the asking price of $875

Serious inquiries email me or call voice for complete
detailed equipment list:

miked@adpgate.UUCP  (503) 294-4200 x 2541 Mike Dalton

+---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Michael A. Dalton i'net: miked@adpgate.UUCP | "What I say to you, I say to   |
| CIS 71410,2624  Voice: (503) 294-4200 x2541 |  everyone: Watch!" -Mark 13:17 |
+---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
-- 
+---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
| Michael A. Dalton i'net: miked@adpgate.UUCP | "What I say to you, I say to   |
| CIS 71410,2624  Voice: (503) 294-4200 x2541 |  everyone: Watch!" -Mark 13:17 |
+---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Alaska Airlines 1st Class upgrade for sale
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:46:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov20.044657.29704
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

For Sale

Alaska Airlines upgrade to 1st class.

Turn your coach ticket into a 1st class seat.

$100. round trip

Call Darrell at (206)322-3510  for more info
Xref: sparky pnw.forsale:2204 or.forsale:2004 rec.travel.air:5675
From: jcb@pcx.ncd.com (Jim Becker)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale,or.forsale,rec.travel.air
Subject: Plane tix: San Jose to Portland, Or. for two - Nov 20th. $200
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:41:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pcx.1992Nov17.004115.10133
Reply-To: jcb@pcx.ncd.com
Organization: NCD PC-Xdivision
Fcc: /eng/jcb/.vmail/.mailsent
Full-Name: Jim Becker



Two one way plane tickets for mid-afternoon;  in  the  names  of  "Jim
Becker" and "Joyce Gardner".

The  time/date  can  be  changed if so desired, think that it's $25 to
change. Carrier is American Airlines.

Would like to get $200 - but make me an offer if desired.

phone is work: 503-671-8421 and home: 206-693-9914.

-jim

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From: baron@halcyon.com (Joseph L Portman III)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale
Subject: Misc 3B2 Boards For Sale
Summary: Multiport, memory and scsi cards
Keywords: ATT 3B2
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:14:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov16.231434.19516
Distribution: pnw
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service


Hi,
We layed our 3B2-700 to rest some time ago, and since no-one
wanted to buy the thing, we decided to sell its parts.

I have :
	5 8-port multiport cards

	1 extra scsi card for driving external scsi devices.

	1 16MB memory module.

No reasonable offer refused. :-)

Reply by e-mail to baron@halcyon.com or
call me at 206-624-1057 and ask for Joe Portman.

I expect the response to be underwhelming.

Thanks,
Joe Portman
-- 

-----------------------------
Joe Portman
baron@halcyon.halcyon.com
Xref: sparky pnw.forsale:2207 seattle.forsale:436 misc.forsale:31348
From: shd2611@carson.u.washington.edu (Sarah Demun)
Newsgroups: pnw.forsale,seattle.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: House For Sale
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:50:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.175051.16833
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

....................NORTH SEATTLE HOUSE FOR SALE......................
		  	     $135,000
		       2406 NE 140TH STREET

	* 3 Bedrooms		* Large kitchen with fireplace
	
	* 1.75 Baths		* Finished basement with rec-room and storage

	* One car detached garage with plenty of workspace or storage

	* Updated plumbing, baths, and kitchen (all appliances stay)

	* New Roof

	* Corner lot (9700sqft) with plenty of room for expansion, children, or pets.
	  
	* Close to Jackson Park Golf Course, Metro bus lines, and major arterials BUT
	  tucked down in a quiet neighborhood (with GREAT neighbors!)

	
	Pleasant Seattle house with hardwood floors, remodeled baths, and a kitchen
	big enough to eat in. 1700 square feet of living space. Oil heat. Pine paneled
	basement has a large comfortable rec-room. Yard has fruit bearing plum, pear,
	hazelnut trees as well as a full concord grape arbor. Built 1944. 1991 taxes
	$1468.

	Contact Kory or Sarah DeMun (owners) at #206-367-4505