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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time Series (spoilers)
Keywords: Spoilers
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:01:17 GMT

mlebrun@bss2.umd.edu (Mike Lebrun):
>First, Rand and Galad are brothers.  All of the evidence is available, but 
>scattered through the first four books.  

No.  Rand is Elayne's and Gawyn's cousin on the mother's side:  Morgase
was closest to the throne when Rand's mother disappeared without leaving
a daughter.  Galad shares Elayne's and Gawyn's *father*, who is not
presumed to be closely related to Tigraine.

>If this is true, then Rand and Morainne are blood relatives.  

See above.  Morrainne and Elayne are Damodreds; Rand isn't.

>I know who Luc is, but I cannot seem to unearth the identy of Isam.  Any 
>help out there?

In the first book, when we learn Lan's history, we are told that the
traitress who brought down his kingdom fled with her young son Isam.
Other evidence makes it clear that Lord Luc is some combination of
Luc and Isam -- probably with a Forsaken thrown in.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.
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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:04:43 GMT

In article <BxGnFA.EJu@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, griffin@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Zack Thompson) writes:
>In article <3741@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>>
>>Hello all:
>>
>>I need some help....  I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
>>of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL. That is,
>>computers that talk and communicate like humans.  I'm not so much 
>>interested in those instances where it's a robot that cannot be
>>distinguished from a human being as in computers sounding human without
>>being almost totally human-like....  So far I got these suggestions.
>>If you can add to the list or comment on the works in it I would very
>>much appreciate it....

My favorite is "Mycroft" HOLMES of Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh
Mistress"
There was another one, I think named Valentina, and I forget the story,
who incorporated under existing laws so she'd have the rights of a person. 
(I like the concept)
A story called "Fireship" included a computer that was programmed
with the mind of dying (as of the story timeline, dead) man.
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From: dagibbs@quantum.on.ca (David Gibbs)
Subject: Re: Stephen Brust's best
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:27:36 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems

In article <1992Nov9.005012.12808@eecs.nwu.edu> ian@nasser.eecs.nwu.edu (Ian Sutherland) writes:
>In article <1992Oct31.171309.12717@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> lalford@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu writes:
>>And as some have mentioned, you should try reading some of the Vlad Taltos 
>>books.  I think these books represent his best writing, so don't decide 
>>from one book that you don't like the author.
>
>I'd be interested to hear how many people feel that the Vlad Taltos
>books represent Brust's best.  I'd say that "To Reign in Hell" is his
>best by quite a long shot.

This is a tough call -- _To Reign in Hell_ and the Vlad Talos books
are entirely different from each other, and really should not be
compared, as they are attempting totally different things.

I do not consider _TRiH_ to be a bad book, but I was unable to
finish it all the same, I just could not read it.  (I spent about
3 weeks trying.)

I do not consider the Vlad books to be "great literature", but
they are extremely ENJOYABLE reading.  I will strongly recommend 
_Jhereg_ to anyone who has not pronounced an extreme dislike of light
fantasy.  Most other books I tend to suggest.

As to what is Brust's best book?  Well, that is a hard question
to answer and depends what scale you are measuring on.  I tend
to think that _Brokedown_Palace_ is probably his best.

-David
(dagibbs@quantum.qnx.com)
From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: An Almost Entirely Pointless Recommendation
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:58:07 GMT
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences

In article <ELIZ.92Nov11183402@corpus-callosum.ai.mit.edu> eliz@ai.mit.edu (Elizabeth Willey) writes:
>Dan Tilque wrote:
>   >
>   >Poul Anderson has written a fair amount of stuff (both fantasy and sf)
>   >in the style of Shakespeare.
>
>R o d Johnson replies:
>   Really. . . ?  (We really need a "bemused interest" punctuation mark.)
>   Can you name a few?  I have to think you (and Curtis) mean something
>   different by "in the style of Shakespeare" than I'm imagining, but
>   either way I'm curious.
>
>The most obvious Shakespearean Anderson is, of course, _A Midsummer
>Tempest_, but _Operation Chaos_, _Three Hearts and Three Lions_, and
>much of the space-opera (not the heavy-duty stuff, the fun ones) are
>barded well with the Bard's influence---and with Elizabethan-to-Restoration
>influences generally.
>
>Read Anderson aloud.  He often writes in meter or even rhyme when he's
>coming over all Shakepearean.
>
Yes, he ends the chapters in _A Midsummer Tempest_ with rhymed couplets.

Also, keep an eye out for staves--they're an old Scandinavian poetic
form with eight lines per stanza and alliteration but no rhyme. They
turn up sometimes in heroic passages and dialogue and are typeset in
Anderson as part of the text.

Nancy Lebovitz
nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu
calligraphic button catalogue available by email

>
>Elizabeth Willey
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From: moflngan@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Who is Fury? (re Jack the Bodiless)
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:21:27 GMT


Ok
I just finished Jack the Bodiless and loved every page.... it seriously
interrupted my work schedule for a while because I couldn't put it
down. The identity of hydra was logical when I thought about it, but,
who is Fury? I don't remember Fury from the Saga of the Exiles
so I'm assuming the identity is a metter of conjecture. Has anybody got 
any ideas.
Given that Davy McGregor is seen as the great enemy it would seem almost
logical that Fury should be a Remillard, presumably with some connection to
Victor. But who?

I apologise if this has been discussed already, I've been off the net for a
while, if its not played out or anybody is interested, I'd be interested to
hear what you think.

Margaret O' Flanagan
Trinity College Dublin
Ireland
MOFLNGAN@VAX1.TCD.IE
From: advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:14 PST
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In article <9NOV199214104894@reg.triumf.ca>, advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel) writes...
>>In article <3741@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>>>
>>>Hello all:
>>>
>>>I need some help....  I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
>>>of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL. That is,
>>>computers that talk and communicate like humans.  
> 
>Zorac in Blake's 7 the British TV series. (Also the other one, a plexiglass 
>box I can't remember the name of)
As has just been pointed out to me, I've gotten a bit mixed-up. What I think 
I meant was:
ZEN   - the plexiglass dome in the original three engined spacecraft
ORRAC - The plexiglass box knowit-all (sorta a "Spock in the Box") (Avon's toy)
plus
ZORAC - in James P Hogan's The Gentle Giants of Ganymede
VISAR and JEVEX - in James P Hogan's Giant's Star and Entoverse
--
 Andrew Daviel, Vancouver, Canada
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Subject: Re: Who Wrote _Planet_of_The_Apes_
From: morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan)
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:37:29 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <dkrastes.720909386@vela> dkrastes@vela.acs.oakland.edu (David
Krastes) writes:
> you wrote
>>Some time ago a read the book of _planet_of_the_apes_ (I hope this is
>>the correct movie-title, i only saw it in german). i enjoyed it
>>very much. but now i can't remember the author !
>
>	Ok here is the info
>	Author:         Boulle, Pierre, 1912-              
>        Title:          Planet of the apes.                
>        Published:      New York : Vanguard Press, 1963.   


That looks like an authoritative citing, but I remember it as Monkey Planet.

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From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: LEIGH BRACKETT (ESB) SF STORIES
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:12:22 GMT

I would hope that people are familiar with Leigh Brackett.  But since
her work is not much in publication, it's easy to see how some people
might overlook her.  

Contents of _The Best of Leigh Brackett_ (Doubleday, 1977), edited by
Edmond Hamilton:

The Jewel of Bas
The Vanishing Venusians
The Veil of Astellar
The Moon that Vanished
Enchantress of Venus
The Woman from Altair
The Last Days of Shandakor
Shannach--the Last
The Tweener
The Queer Ones

original copyright dates on the stories range from 1944-56.  It's worth
noting that much of her work involved a series of novels and stories
centering around the anti-heroic Eric John Stark.

I'd suggest taking a second look at her screenwriting output as an
incentive to check out her fiction.  Her work with Faulkner on _The Big
Sleep_ is exceptional.  She wrote consistently entertaining stories and
could write well in both adventure and suspense.  An old favorite.

And yes, I like C.L. Moore, too.  Not as well as I like Brackett,
though...

-- 
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From: doug@cdc.hp.com (Doug Sojourner)
Subject: Re: Zelazny - Prince of Chaos?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:04:11 GMT
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I just looked at the dedication to Prince of Chaos, and Zelazny says

"To (womans name)

Gramercy, lady. This one was yours from the start"

That could explain what Scot Carpenter perceives as a difference in
writing style.


Doug Sojourner
dsojourner@cdc.hp.com
From: chancock@igc.apc.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Orsinia/Malafrena
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:50:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov3.124910.11880@waikato.ac:2083905728:cdp:1576200001:000:652
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!chancock    Nov  4 13:50:00 1992


I assumed that in 'Malafrena' Le Guin was not refering to a specific
European country, but was rising to the creative challenge of inventing
a historical country that was European in character.  I thought her non-
specificity was best achieved in language, in the invented names and
place names.  (Disclaimer: I'm not a historian or linguist, so I may
be completely off here.)  Anyway, I enjoyed the book, another of her
utopian novels.  (Her utopian theme reached a marvelous peak in 'Always
Coming Home'.)

--Charlie Hancock <chancock@igc.apc.org>  Institute for Global Communications
                                          San Francisco, CA  USA
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From: 4224_5304@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Harlan Ellison
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:59:12 GMT


	To pick up the Ellison thread, I figured I would post
some information of use to those of us who would O.D. on his stuff,
could we only get our meaty little hands on it.
	I tried in vain for months to find a copy of _The Harlan Ellison 
Hornbook_, because it went out of print before it was printed. (Okay,
maybe not *that* fast, but pretty damn quick.)
	Good news -- you can get an honest-to-God copy from The
Mysterious Bookshop.  No dealers, no hassles, no joke. 
	The address:

	The Mysterious Bookshop
	129 West 56th Street
	NY, NY 10019-3881

	And for whose hands are shaking in such giddy anticipation that
they can't hold a pen, here's the number : 

	(212) 765-0900

There's also a toll-free number, but since my only record of it is in the 
hands of Otto Penzler, you'll just have to do without.
	Oh, and _Spider Kiss_ is, I believe, also available from the 
same source.
	All this by way of posting something useful, when what I *really*
want to do is mention that I got a shipment of HE books today,
courtesy of The Harlan Ellison Record Club.  Christmas has come
early for the household bibliophiles!


	Tara Whalen
	4224_5304@uwovax.uwo.ca
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From: phatch@solstice.slc.mentorg.com (Phill Hatch (CONTRACTOR Documentation))
Subject: New Card Book: The Lost Boys
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.written
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp.,  Murray, Utah
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:15:47 GMT

There was an article on the front page of the Sunday Arts
section about Orson Card's  latest book, _The Lost Boys_.

It seems that Card has yet again taken a short story and
created a novel out of it.  Yet again, the novel is quite
different than the short story, at least from the summary
contained in the article.  

This book marks a departure for Card.  It is published
from a mainstream publisher, and seems to have more
dread/suspense for content. Card hopes to see it sell 
beyond his normal sci-fi audience.  The publisher hopes
this as well.

Maybe tomorrow I will bring in the article and transcribe
it for those who are interested.

Phil
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Brunner (was Re: _Islands_in_the_Net_)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:25:54 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
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In article <1992Nov5.161342.422@math.ucla.edu> dstein@vesta.math.ucla.edu (David Stein) writes:
>
>   Have you read "Universe" by RAH?  Give it a try and tell me if the 
>   idea behind the story had nothing to do with the story being
>   (presumably) a good read.

I'm not an RAH fan, but in my (wayward) youth I read most all of
his stuff; presumably that was among them.  But I can't place
it by the title.

I should say that I don't object to ideas; and, if they're used
to plausibly create a universe which is interesting in its own
right, they can be handy.

But my taste can be summarized in one razor: all good fiction is
about people.  A pithy sentence; let's repeat.  All good fiction
is about people.  All good fiction, _without exception_, is
about people.  ALL GOOD FICTION...


Note (for the philosophically impaired) that this is not a
statement but a definition, and thus you have no right to
question it.  Prosecutors will be violated.

>p.s.  Given that you declared Ian McDonald the new James Joyce,

Bwahaha - wait!  Again: only in moments of extreme dipsomania.

>      I wonder if you ever read anything by Lucius Shepard.  

Anything I could find.  Unfortunately, much of his work is only
published by Zeising (as will be his next novel), and it's a hellish
trial getting hold of it.

>      His prose is hardly minimalistic, yet he seldom suffers
>      from the excess and silliness shown by McDonald in that
>      rotten "Fragments ...." story.

Nor, I must say, does McDonald.

c
From: allan@slab.unt.edu (Mark Allan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: To Zelazny, Glen Cook, & Brust Fans
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:38:53 GMT
Organization: School of Library & Info Sci, UNT

Just read (another) new book which might be of interest to y'all.  The title 
is _Jumper_, by Steven Gould.  It's written in the first person, like those 
of the other authors mentioned, and has as a main character a fairly wry (
later in the story) individual.  A lot of personal growth of this character 
involved, and good imagery, as well as of course, the realistic 
unexplainable.  Is more science-fiction than fantasy, and deals with the 
subject of teleportation, but not in a cliche fashion.  Good for a light-
hearted read.     - Mark

Allan@slab.unt.edu
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From: euan_s@bunyip.atnf.csiro.au (Euan Troup)
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Reply-To: etroup@atnf.csiro.au
Organization: Australia Telescope, Parkes Radio Observatory.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:30:20 GMT


In article <3741@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder
Sahle) writes:
>Hello all:
>
>I need some help....  I'm looking for examples in fiction literature
>of super sophisticated communicative computers a la HAL. That is,
>computers that talk and communicate like humans.  I'm not so much 
>interested in those instances where it's a robot that cannot be
>distinguished from a human being as in computers sounding human
>without
>being almost totally human-like....  So far I got these suggestions.
>If you can add to the list or comment on the works in it I would very
>much appreciate it....
>
>Thanks,
>Ahmed
>
>robert heinlein: _the moon is a harsh mistress_
>
>william gibson: _neuromancer_ & virtually anything else
>
>david gerrold: _when harlie was one_
>
>thomas ryan: _the adolesence of p-1_
>
>john brunner: _stand on zanzibar_ [a few bits thereof]
>
>vernor vinge: _a fire upon the deep_ & related works
>
>christopher stasheff:  _the warlock in spite of himself_
>

	This is a fairly common idea I think.
There are the following examples, at least:

Eddie the Shipboard Computer in Douglas Adams' Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Obie in Jack L. Chalker's Well World series
Peersa the Checker in Larry Niven's  World out of Time
Ring and Ralf the Wise and Powerful in Daniel Keys Moran's The Long Run
Visar in James Hogan's Giant's Star
The First Sirian Bank in Terry Pratchett's Dark Side of the Sun
Ghostwheel in Roger Zelazny's second Amber series
Neberdjer in Tony Rothman's The World is Round
The Minds in Iain M. Banks' Culture stories
The AIs in Dan Simmons Hyperion
Pallas Athene etc. in Heinlein's Time Enough For Love
The City Fathers in James Blish's Cities In Flight
Gaia in John Varley's Titan, Wizard and Demon books
The Earth in David Brin's Earth
The Niss Machine in Startide Rising
Ardneh in Fred Saberhagen's Empire of the East books
Multivac in Isaac Asimov's The Last Question

	It's certain there are a number of stories I've missed, but this list
may help. 

Euan Troup,	etroup@atnf.csiro.au
..mostly harmless			Disclaimer: I frame no hypotheses.

p.s. Some of these suggestions probably deserve a smiley at the end. You decide.
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: An Almost Entirely Pointless Recommendation
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:40:11 GMT
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In article <ZMB=Vw=@engin.umich.edu> rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
>In article <BxCB50.L4p@techbook.com> dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
>>
>>Poul Anderson has written a fair amount of stuff (both fantasy and sf)
>>in the style of Shakespeare.
>
>Really. . . ?  (We really need a "bemused interest" punctuation mark.)
>Can you name a few?  I have to think you (and Curtis) mean something
>different by "in the style of Shakespeare" than I'm imagining, but
>either way I'm curious.

What I mean is not prose; I hope no one took it that way, because
I couldn't think of any less Shakespearian prose than Crowley's
(well, I could, but you know what I mean).

What I mean is plot, and character - and more the latter than the former.

And theme, of course.

c
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From: mcconnel@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (Mike McConnell)
Subject: Re: Who Was "The Fisher King"?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:01:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.182412.10036@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, warda@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|> Something that's been nagging at the back of my mind for while now:  
|> Briefly, what is the "Fisher King" myth?  I read Powers' "Drawing Of 
|> Of The Dark", and I have vague recollections of the Fisher King from 
|> European mythology, but nothing concrete.  Can somebody fill the gap 
|> in my knowledge, please?
|> I should add, to anyone unsure about trying DOD, that it didn't in any
|> way spoil my enjoyment of the book.
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> 
|>    Bill Bennett                           JANET: warda@uk.ac.oxford.vax    
|>    CRC Growth Factors Research Group   Internet: warda%vax.oxford.ac.uk  
|>  

In the Arthurian legend, Parcival is guesting at a castle where he sees an old,
wounded king, the Fisher King.  In addition, he sees the Holy Grail being brought
to the king.  He is supposed to ask who this is and the importance of the grail, 
but he was too "well brought up" to ask questions of his hosts, so the opportunity
is lost.  

Mike McConnell
From: mwd3@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew W. Dempsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: books with swords
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:33:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, J_CAUSEY@ccnode.colorado.EDU (Frederick the Great) says:

>
>	Try _The Phoenix Guards_ by Steven Brust.  Also, any of Brust's
>_Vlad Taltos_ books have fairly detailed fencing.
>
>	Jim Causey
>	j_causey@ccnode.colorado.edu
>

         There's also the Swords and Lost Swords series by Fred Saberhagen.
Their plots revolve entirely around twelve swords.
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Meddle not in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
From: jonathan@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr J J Trevor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: FEIST QUESTION
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:16:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1dpdruINNeh2@lester.appstate.edu> ACSOP25@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (Lance Davis) writes:
>I have just recently discovered the work of Feist and I really enjoy the 
>books I have read.  I have already read Magician (Apprentice and Master),
>A Darkness at Sethanon, and Silverthorn, my question is this.  Should I read
>Prince of the Blood before the stuff he did with Mrs. Wurts or can I hold off
>on reading the "...Empire" books.   Also, if anyone has read the new one he
>has out "The Kings Buccaneer" or something, what should I have read before
>going into that one.  This may be a weird type of question, but I don't want 
>to miss anything.  I normally read in chronological order but the books set
>in Kelewan don't interest me.  Maybe I am missing someting in those books,
>are there any characters I would know.
>
>
>HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!
>
>The Confused One

All I can say is that read the Empire books as soon as possible. I too
really enjoyed the Riftwar saga and was a bit reluctant to read
"Daughter of the Empire". However, the three
("Daughter","Servant","Mistress") are excellent (albeit in a different
manner) and explore the concept of honor in the Ts' world. Daughter is
the most subtle of the three, servant I think is my favorite and
mistress is the most "action" packed, although this isnt necessarily a
good thing with this series.

All in all READ them. They are as good, if not better, than the riftwar
saga. Prince of the Blood is a good book, but not on par with the rest.

Cheers


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From: ca572@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark L. Stackpole)
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Subject: Re: A Fire Upon the Deep
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:30:43 GMT
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	_A Fire Upon the Deep_ was an April 1992 release from TOR
books. At this time it is only available in Hardcover. If TOR keeps
to its usual release pattern, it should be in paperback 'round
about April-May 1993.