HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jcc@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Request for Information.
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:20:02 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Greetings to you all!
I wonder if there are any Lebanese people (or other people from the Middle East
that would be interested in helping me out?

I am a graduate student at the University of Waikato in New Zealand. I am
currently doing a course in Intercultural Communication, and as part of the
course, I have to prepare a sizeable paper on a culture of my choice, describe
this culture especially with regard to how people in this culture communicate
(not just language, but non-verbal communication such as body language etc),
and how to improve communication across the cultural barrier to this culture.

I have decided to study village life in the Middle East. My family comes from
a village in the Lebanon. I would really appreciate any information at all that
anyone could provide me. Thanks for reading this, and I look forward to hearing
from some of you.

Peace,

John Corban.
jcc@waikato.ac.nz

ps. if anyone is interested in writing to me, my address is: 16 Forest Lake
Road, Hamilton, New Zealand.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Sydney Harbour Tunnel
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:20:44 GMT

michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann) writes:

> >In fact, corrosion is not nearly as much of a problem in reinforced
> >concrete unter seawater, because of the chemistry of wet concrete and
> >the oxygen-poor environment. In addition, cracks can be repaired if they
> >get too big. 

>There are a few people in Chicago who might not agree with you!  I think
>it would be better to repair the cracks BEFORE they get too big!

The chicago tunnel didn't flood because of corrosion. Didn't somebody
drive a pylon into a tunnel?

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.edu.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.  -- Seneca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:35:00 GMT

        Here is what appears to be the original "Waltzing Matilda", from
"The Collected verse of A. B. Patterson", first published in 1921.  It
seems to have been published in "Saltbush Bill, J.P." (1917), although I 
have a feeling it may have been presented in the Bulletin somewhat earlier.  
Punctuation as printed in the 1982 edition -- don't blame me for the 
unmatched quotation mark in the second verse :-).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        WALTZING MATILDA
                       (Carrying a Swag.)

Oh! there once was a swagman camped in a Billabong,
   Under the shade of a Coolabah tree;
And he sang as he looked at his old billy boiling,
   "Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"

      Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda, my darling,
         Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?
      Waltzing Matilda and leading a water-bag--
         Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?

Down came a jumbuck to drink at the water-hole,
   Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him in glee;
And he sang as he stowed him away in his tucker-bag,
   You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me."

Down came the Squatter a-riding his thoroughbred;
   Down came Policemen -- one, two and three.
      "Whose is the jumbuck you've got in the tucker-bag?
   You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me."

But the swagman, he up and he jumped in the water-hole,
   Drowning himself by the Coolabah tree;
And his ghost may be heard as it sings in the Billabong
   "Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"

--------------------------------------------------------
Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From:  evp@riis.fian.msk.su (Edward V. Porsov)
Subject: Searching friends in Australia
Reply-To: evp@riis.fian.msk.su
Organization: Lebedev Physical institute (FIAN)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 92 12:30:21 +0300 

Hello,

I'm a russian male name Edward Porsov. I am very interested in
what life is like in Australia.
I hear a lot about your country but not much about day to
day life there. I would like to make contacts with people in
Australia that I could correspond with.

I'm twenty six. I am employed as computer programmer for Lebedev
Physical institute in Moscow. Though any one interested in talking
about australian culture and the culture in Russia should write.

I would like to correspond with people over the network through email.

Thanks
Write back soon

Edward Porsov

My e-mail addresses:
   evp@riis.fian.msk.su                    (preferable)
   Eddie_Porsov!2:5020/33.7!fidonet.org




Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,aus.jokes
From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Subject: Sydney Harbour Tunnel
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:52:43 GMT


Sydney Harbour Tunnel will start operating next week. A few weeks ago, I heard
that it was leaking in several places and was being fixed with silicon. The
Public Affairs Manager of the tunnel said there was nothing to worry about
cos' all tunnels leak anyway. Perhaps, it is not surprising that the
tunnel leaks, after all the P.A. Manager of the tunnel is a 
Mr. Liam Bathgate.



--
 _________Josef Widjaja____________  
|  s8923098@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au  |
|  Macquarie University, Australia | 
|__________________________________| 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: Oznews, 29th of August, 1992.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:47:44 GMT


In article <20p002Ih20pB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> nsp00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope) writes:

>"This here's the Wattle, the symbol of our land.  You can stick it
                              ^^^^^^
                              emblem

> in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand."  (MP - Circa 1970)
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:04:47 GMT
Organization: AT&T


In article <1992Aug25.002148.22780@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au> smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Scott Smith) writes:

>There are essentially two melodies for the song, the original written
>in C maj, and the more contemporary written in F major.

Ta mate!  I thought I was going mad!  I knew that I had heard it sung to two
completely different tunes, but couldn't get anyone to confirm it.

>The chorus of the original goes like this
>
>Waltzing Matilda, Matilda my darling
>You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me
>and he sang as he watched and waited for his billy to boil,
>You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me.

The chorus of the more traditional version I've heard goes:

     "Waltzing Matilda, waltzing Matilda,
     Who'll come a' waltzing Matilda with me?"
     And he sang as he sat and waited till his billy boiled,
     "Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me."

The more contemporary version I heard had a different chorus:

     "Waltzing Matilda, Matilda my darling,
     Who'll come a' waltzing Matilda with me?
     Waltzing Matilda, leading a water bag,
     Who'll come a' waltzing Matilda with me?"

The verses were pretty much the same though.

>There is still debate within the Australian Music Industry as to who wrote the
>melody to accompiany the song, some say that Banjo had a hand in it, while 
>there are those who claim that the daughter of the Squatter had something to
>do with it.

Where did the more contemporary version come from?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
Subject: Re: Oznews, 29th of August, 1992.
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 23:10:50 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Sep1.132423.23200@inmos.co.uk> jeremy@lion.inmos.co.uk
(Jeremy Thorp) writes:
> We visited the rainforest information centre and were told some of the
> grim statistics.  Apparently a very large number of the plants/trees
> are dependent on a single bird, the Casuary (sp?). The birds population
> has been depleted alarmingly recently, and the main cause of this loss
> was, apparently, the birds being killed on be vehicles on the roads.

The bird is the Southern Cassowary. A large flightless bird shorter but
more stocky than an Emu. It never had a large range and has indeed
declined preciptously and is now endangered. Fortunately, it (and two
other species of Cassowaries) also occurs in New Guinea  where it is
secure. 

The number of dependent plants sounds exaggerated and I've heard other
reasons suggested for its decline but maybe this is new research.

Andrew Taylor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,rec.travel,soc.culture.new-zealand
From: randall@ccrs.emr.ca (David Randall)
Subject: Exchange to Deakin or RMIT?
Followup-To: randall@ccrs.emr.ca 
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:38:09 GMT


I posted earlier in July that I had the chance to go to Australia
for a one year exchange.  I recieved many replies nad I have now one of
two universities to decide on...Deakin or RMIT???

I am a co-op geography student at the university of Waterloo with an interest
in Remote Sensing/GIS.  Does anyone have any comments oneither of the two
schools...academics, socially etc...

Thanx for all the replies to my earlier post I will let those who 
wanted to know what my decision is as soon as I make it!?


			Thax for your help...

						Dave Randall
						CCRS 
						randall@ccrs.emr.ca

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Randall                        
randall@ccrs.emr.ca             
University of Waterloo co-op
From: cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: could these be the ORIGINAL Waltzing Matilda lyrics?
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:37:35 GMT
Organization: UTCS Public Access

In article <4SEP199200304574@erich.triumf.ca> ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>In article <Bu0sAr.A4@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>,
>	 cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed) writes...
>>Well, could these be the original Waltzing Matilda lyrics?
>> 
>	Doesn't look too different from the lyrics I posted a while ago, that
>date back to at least 1917.
>
>Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch

  Sorry, guess I missed your posting. The book says that WM was "originally
published as sheet music" in 1903... it would be interesting to see how the
lyrics fit the tune... 


-- 
--- 
       "We cannot think without imagining."  -- Thomas Aquinas
            cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Brown-Syed)
From: huumala@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:02:31 GMT

Thanks to everyone who took the time to write down and post the lyrics to
Waltzing Matilda.  I got more than I bargained for, I was looking for one
decent set of lyrics and I ended up with three sets.

thanks Dean
From: STA39018786H@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (ECKY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:36:44 GMT
 <9223910.16786@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <37270@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <1992Aug28.170857.1@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au>
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <1992Aug28.170857.1@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au> webster@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au writes:
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                             What's this? A new address?

> > corrections, however pedantic, are welcome.
> > 
> Oh so close!  The only thing missing is the word 'So' just before 'In joyful
> strains'
> 
> Mark Webster

     Welcome to the net Webbo, but there is no need to take people literally.

     Smile, there's only 12 weeks to the boat trip ;*} (Hic!)

                               ECKY

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From: nsp00@ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Oznews, 29th of August, 1992.
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:19:17 GMT
Reply-To: nsp00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I'm afraid that we seem to have missed the OzNews from 29th August.

Could some kind soul please re-post it.

Thanks.


-- 
nsp00@juts.amdahl.com: 'All opinions mine - Not my employers...so there'

"This here's the Wattle, the symbol of our land.  You can stick it
 in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand."  (MP - Circa 1970)
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:02:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <9223910.16786@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri) writes:
>dunleavy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Houston Dunleavy) writes:
>>	
>>	It is definitely our National Song though, and was under consideration
>>for the National Anthem, though the eventual winner was more suitable.  
>>(Oh come on you o/s types, you heard it seven times at the Olympics, 
>
>
>Could someone post its (Advance Australia fair) lyrics too?


Ok, at the risk of further embarrasment, I will now attempt to post
the lyrics (of the first verse) of Advance Australia Fair. Again,
corrections, however pedantic, are welcome.


Australians all let us rejoice
For we are young and free
With golden soil and wealth for toil
Our home is girt by sea
Our land abounds in nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare
In history's page let every stage
Advance Australia Fair
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia Fair





Tom Marvan.
From: rowlands@ra.csc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: rowlands@csc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands)
Organization: Texas Instruments, SPDC, DSP Technology Branch, Dallas

I was told once that Michael Jackson has some sort of copyright on
this song. It's almost certainly not true, but it's a nice idea
anyway. Fits in well with the way he looks more and more like
Rolf Harris as time passes. He still has a ways to go, though,
before he's that Bad.

-- 
Jon Rowlands			email: rowlands@csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments		phone: 1-214-995-3436
SPDC, DSP Technology Branch	  fax: 1-214-995-0304
Dallas, Texas, USA
From: gantony@metz.une.edu.au (George Antony)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: hasan's debut in s.c.aust (was: Re: Turks oppressed in Australia?)
Date: 22 Aug 92 09:41:07 GMT
Reply-To: gantony@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: gantony@metz.une.edu.au

From article <Bt2z2p.Hq2@well.sf.ca.us>, by dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood):
> 
> Forgive me for coming into this late, but I just looked at
> soc.culture.australian for the first time and all I find is 4 messages about
> Turks and their neighbors.  Was I wrong in expecting s.c.aus to be about
> Australia?  Aren't s.c.turkish, s.c.greek, t.p.mideast enough?  Or has
> the Greek/Turk/Kurd/Armenian conflict spread to the antipodes?
> 
> Cluelessly yours,

Nah, it is just a mad generator of anti-Armenian rubbish, by the name of
Hasan B. Mutlu.

He has been filling up every other newsgroup with megabytes of psychopathic 
hatred and deliberately distorted quotes, giving decent Turks a bad name.

It was only a matter of time before he got around to s.c.aust, but now it has
happened.  The only way to deal with him is to put him in one's kill file or
ignore his postings, unless one wants to trigger a torrent of invective
that uses more upmarket words than Keating's but is much less coherent.

-------------------------------------------------------------
George Antony    (gantony@metz.une.oz.au)
Department of Agricultural Economics and Business Management
University of New England, Armidale, N.S.W. 2351, Australia
Fax: (+61-67) 711531     Phone: (+61-67) 733222 (GMT +10 hrs)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Subject: Re: enquiry for job opportunities in australia.
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 02:10:00 GMT

In article <holdensj.53@BusLab.cba.ufl.edu> holdensj@BusLab.cba.ufl.edu (STEPHEN J HOLDEN) writes:
|In article <21AUG92.11095856@enh.nist.gov> raghu@enh.nist.gov writes:
|
|>I am looking for any info you might be able to give on companies in 
|>the oil industry that will be interested in hiring process engineers.  
|>The person interested in this info is an australian green card holder and 
|                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|he is, is he?  i have never even heard of an ozzie green card.  is it
|a work permit?  any idea how he got it?  i know many people who would
|like to know how to get permission to work in australia
|
|stephen

There is no such thing as green card in Oz. There was a proposal to 
introduce one about five years ago, but Aussies were united against 
it. If you want to get permission to work in Oz, you have to apply
for a work visa or residency visa.
 

--
 _________Josef Widjaja____________  
|  s8923098@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au  |
|  Macquarie University, Australia | 
|__________________________________| 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics??
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:20:04 GMT


In article <1786@grivel.une.edu.au> dwright@metz.une.edu.au (Denis Wright) writes:

>I always wondered about the line
>
>"Where's that jolly jumbuck you've got in your tuckerbag?"
>
>- I mean, doesn't he *know* where it is??  What's the swaggie
>to reply? - "Ummm ... in me tuckerbag, mate!"
>:)
>
>Yeah, yeah, poetic licence....

I believe the line is "Whose the jolly jumbuck you've got in your tucker
bag," as in "to whom does it belong."
From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: National Anthem lyrics
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug27.073215.15590@syacus.acus.oz.au> steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff) writes:
>brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:
>: noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri) writes:
>: >Could someone post its (Advance Australia fair) lyrics too?
>: Here's my best shot; it's from memory, so please correct me if I've made
>: mistakes.
>: 
>: Australians all let us rejoice, for we are young and free;
>              ^^^
><rest of anthem deleted>
>
>When we first had to sing this in school in the early 70's, it started
>'Australia's Sons...'.
>Not quite sure when it was surreptitiously replaced, but I guess it goes
>along ok.



I seem to recall someone posting that it was replaced in the
mid-1980's.  Apparently Bob Hawke trumpteted its change for the
better in that it was now no longer sexist.  I, however, seem to
recall singing the "all" version at primary school, the last year of
which I endured in 1979.




Tom Marvan.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: andrew@megadata.mega.oz.au (Andrew McRae)
Subject: Re: "Waltzing Matilda" lyrics?? (What was the swaggy's name?)
Originator: andrew@noah
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:49:39 GMT

From article <1992Aug26.234356.25412@cc.uow.edu.au>, by stephen@cc.uow.edu.au (Stephen Nicholson):
> 
> The old question is, of course, WHAT WAS THE SWAGGY'S NAME?
> 
> The answer _is_ to be found in the song.

	Juan's a jolly swagman...

> Sorry, no prizes, they're a bit hard to uuencode.

What a shame.

> Stephen Nicholson				 stephen@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au

Andrew McRae (andrew@megadata.mega.oz.au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: Oznews, 29th of August, 1992.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:17:36 GMT


In article <41u602a420kn01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> nsp00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.164744.25706@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:
>>
>>In article <20p002Ih20pB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> nsp00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Nigel S Pope) writes:
>>
>>>"This here's the Wattle, the symbol of our land.  You can stick it
>>                              ^^^^^^
>>                              emblem
>>
>>> in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand."  (MP - Circa 1970)
>
>
>It all depends on what book that you take the quote from.
>
>I took the quote from 'MONTY PYTHON, All the Words, Volume 1.' and it 
>states 'symbol'.

In the episode, which they just replayed on Comedy Central this week, the
word is quite plainly "emblem."  Also on the record (MATCHING TIE AND
HANDKERCHEIF I think) it is "emblem."
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.brit
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:33:46 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

The biggest argument against to date is that the British Empire is dead.  I too
don't want to see the old British Empire where none of the colonies were
unrepresented at Westminister.
The proposal sets out for everyonr to be represented, NOT a minute fraction!!




Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
From: tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Life in Aus
Summary: Why do you complain?
Keywords: prices
Date: 26 Aug 1992 17:24:45 GMT

In article <2162@loke.dc.luth.se>, rjnipl@dc.luth.se (Ryszard Nipl) writes:
> Be glad not  to pay for  it in Sweden.  I paid 6.48  Swedish Crown per
> litre yesterday. Exchange rate  is 3.7 -3.9 Crown  per Aus$ today. How
> much specifically  I'll must  ask my  wife when  she comes.  But it is
> horrible!
> 
> Ryszard

I am wondering if you complain when you receive many benefits from
the Swedish social programs. Do not you think that you should support
these too?    

Why do you think that you have a right to have a car and pay as much
as you want for the gas prices? It is good to know that many people
in many countries do not have some of the simplest rights that we
assume for ourselves in the west. So why complain?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian