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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Gemulator (Falcon emulator?) -- Vapor
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:52:31 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <64741@cup.portal.com>, Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
> Jeff Young writes:
> 
>>Regular price of Gemulator is almost SAME PRICE as new $799 Falcons
>>so BraSoft (Bra__Soft? BrainSoft?!) MUST give moneyback guaranty
>>to prove it is good!
> 
> One more time...
> 
> SO WHAT??
> 
> The GEMulator is (read my lips) an *ST EMULATOR*   **NOT**  a Falcon
> Emulator.
> 
> Whatever the Falcon is, or someday may be has nothing AT ALL to do with
> whether or not the GEMulator does anything or nothing in a PC..
>  
> Is this a difficult concept to grasp, or what..?

I'm amazed that you guys are still spending so much energy debating about
Atari's vaporware.  Granted, some Falcons were seen at the "show" in
Germany.  Do I have to remind everyone how many years Atari showcased
the 68020/30 TT before they ever sold one (nobody seems to be buying
them anyway)?  They made the same price claims then..."get your 32bit
680X0 box for less than $1000 and blow the doors off your neighbor".
However, when the thing was finally released, the laws of reality 
took over and by the time you configured the machine with enough
things to do any real work, it cost just as much or more than
comparable and better supported products from other companies.
To make matters worse, Atari's development timetable is so far
back from the pack that by the time (except for the original ST)
they get anything out the door it is "has been" technology.

Why would anyone take a risk on such an orphaned machine when
they can run out and buy a 486box for $1500 (unlike Atari,
that includes a few megs of RAM, a decent hard disk, and a
minimum of 800x600 color graphics.  And you can go out to ANY
computer store and buy add-in cards, memory, software, etc.

A couple of years ago (above the din of the Atari cheerleaders)
I said that the stock market is generally a good means of
checking out the market's assessment of a company's viability.
Atari's stock has been hanging in the $1.50-$2.00/share range
for almost 2 years.  Investors have no confidence in the
survival of the company so why should a consumer have any
confidence in their product line, especially in light of
past fiascos?

Damn, that felt good.  Now I'll go back to comp.sys.mac.misc
and put all those Falcon posters in my kill file. :-)

Have a nice day,

Chris
From: atilghma@orac.holonet.net (Adam G. Tilghman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,misc.forsale.computers,ba.forsale.computers
Subject: Loaded Atari STe system - US$975 obo.
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:36:12 GMT
Organization: HoloNet Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058


The short form:

    Atari 520STe (4Mb, TOS 2.06, DEKA & IBM keyboard); 85Mb HD;
        SC1224/SM124 color/mono monitors, monitor switch; WP, comm &
        other software.
    Atari 1040ST (1Mb, TOS 1.0) & 2 256K SIMMs.

    Take all of the above for $975, and I pay shipping. 

    Call Adam at (415)873-3091, 8am-8pm PST, or email to
        "atilghma@holonet.net".  

The long form:

    Atari 520STe (4Mb RAM, TOS 2.06 installed, with DEKA        $350
                    keyboard adapter & IBM 104-key keyboard)

    Atari 1040ST (1Mb RAM, TOS 1.0, internal floppy drive,      $100
                    Golden Image mouse)

    ICD FA/ST 85Mb ST-1096N Hard Drive                          $275

    Atari SC1224 color monitor                                  $175

    Atari SM124 monochrome monitor                              $85

    Color / Mono monitor switch                                 $10

    2 256K 8-bit/100ns SIMMs (bought with 520STe)               $10

    Wordflair II WP software (will transfer reg.)               $40
        (w/ dictionary, thesaurus, WYSIWYG)

    STalker 3.02 Telecomm software                              $25

    STeno 2.00 text editor software                             $10

    Script WP software (w/ dict., mono only)                    $10
        (stable on floppy-only systems)

    Beckemeyer's MT C-Shell, including MT UUCP software         $15
        (get your machine on the net!)                          

    Every other piece of software that I own (inc.              $35
        Personal Pascal, DevPac ST assembler, GFA Basic 2.0,
        Hyperfont GDOS font editor, Flash 1.0, lots of PD
        stuff)                              
        
                                                             --------
                                            Total:             $1140

    I'll let EVERYTHING go for $975, and I'll pay shipping.
Otherwise, you pay shipping.  I'm open to haggling, since I pretty
much pulled these numbers out of a hat - make me an offer.

-- adam tilghman (atilghma@holonet.net) Voice 415-873-3091 8am-8pmPST
 


-- 
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atilghma@holonet.net             "A horse is a mouse in a house, you louse!"
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Line-doubling on the Falcon, is this what it is?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:45:49 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"


     Well, looking through the latest Video Magazine, I was surprised to
see an article  on an image enhancing technique for video dubbed
line-doubling. Now is this the same as the Falcon's new display modes?
If so, this could be one of the best things that Atari could put into
the new machine for video production!

     The article starts out by comparing line-doubling to HDTV, but is
possible now, but for a lot of money. (Most of the set-ups described in
the article cost >$30000. (Yes, thats Thirty thousand dollars.)

     Here is how they describe line-doubling, taken without permission
from VIDEO magazine:

     "... A Line doubler memorizes the first (odd) half of the 525 lines
[of NTSC video signal] while simultaneously displaying the other(even)
half. This adds up to a full frame of video every 1/60th of a second,
instead of every 1/30th. Since you're now seeing both halves of the
video image on screen at the same time, the picture "looks" more
detailed, even thoiugh you're not really seeing more information than is
actually present in the source material. Just as importantly, the scan
lines become almost imperceptible."

     Is this the same mode as line-doubling on the Falcon? If so, the
falcon could produce awesome video productions, for a lot less money.

Later.......

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From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: JAGUAR - graphics, could it be?
Date: 26 Aug 1992 09:31:46 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <64681@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>A very unexcited, Mike writes:
>
>>It might use Interlace.... and you are excited about it?  
>
>>Yuck!   That sounds like a nasty form of torture, or perhaps it will
>
>...
>
>>but everytime you play the game, it gives you this splitting headache.
>
> 
>Guess you don't watch TV much, eh, Mike..?
>
>If you did, it would give you a splitting headache every time
>you watched it...
>
>Guess what regular TV uses...?  Oh no..!   Interlace..!!

	Oh no!  My mother lied to me all those years!  She said my headaches
were from the stupid shows I was watching, and that it was sucking my brain
out through my eyeballs!  I was such a child to believe her. :)

	To be honest, I don't watch TV that much, and when I do, it does give
me headaches.   However, I would think that better TVs reduce the more harmful
effects of an interlaced screen (aside from ELF and whatever other radiation
that TVs spit out).  Isn't there a signal buffering on most (good) TVs so that 
they can display the picture at that magick 60 Hz (is it 50Hz across the 
pond)?  If not, it may just be a difference in phosophor, or more likely the
fact that I generally do not strain to look at a TV as I do not do DTP, etc
on a TV, where fine resolution would be neccessary.

>(Not that I believe for a second that there's anything like an
>Atari Jaguar in my immediate future to threaten me with splitting
>headaches or anything else...)

	Yeah, I suppose they would have to sell it before we could go home and
get our RDA of head-pain.  So we will have to make do with getting our RDA 
from the office monitors, or if you can't do that (they installed glare-guards
on all the monitors - How DARE they?)  you can always try looking at the sun
and seeing how long it takes the "sun ghost" to go away.

	For the (sick) humor impared:      :)!

>BobR


-Mike

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: Spectre GCR, System 6 & AppleTalk
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:26:31 GMT


I tried installing "Freedom of Press Light" which claimed that the AppleTalk in
the ROMS was not compatible with FPSpooler and then proceeded to install an
AppleTalk file in the Systems Folder. Trying to reboot only hung the boot up
procedure - after booting from the floppy and removing the AppleTalk file -
rebootimg from hard disk worked but "Freedom of Press" did not because it needed
the "newer" version of AppleTalk.

Spectre GCR , System 6.0.5 (I tried 6.0.8, too)

Any clues? Seems to be a Spectre Problem because FOP works fine on the MacPluses
at work.

Bob Malay
From: joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Databases for the STe
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 00:51:17 EDT
Organization: TCP BBS, Cleveland, Ohio

jharres@doc.bmd.trw.com writes:

> What databases are available that work on the 1040 STe?  I have Regent Base,
> which I like (on my ST), but doesn't work on the STe.  Both commercial and
> PD (free or shareware).  I have tried Fastbase from a.a.u.e but it appears
> to have a bug (on my STe) and I haven't been able to contact the author.
> 
> Jim     jharres@oz.bmd.trw.com
> 


Have you taken a look at SuperBase Professional.  It is a very good 
relational database.  Also Datamanager Professional is another relational
database.  There is also Informer II which is a graphic database.  And,
ofcourse there is always DBman.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dk3uz@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Edmund Ramm)
Subject: green SM124?
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:40:20 GMT
Keywords: CRT replacement


Hello,

   is there such a thing as a green phosphor CRT with the same electrical
and mechanical specs as the white phosphor CRT of a SM124 monitor?

   Awaiting your answers,

       Eddi
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca ( John Henders )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolutions
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:12:26 -0700

In <1992Aug25.234449.20278@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:



>I have a Magnavox Profession Series Display.  
>It was created by Phillips Consumer Electronics Company
>There is a port labeled RGB and a button labeled
>Analogue  as well as buttons labled
>CBVS RGB and CVBS LCA on the back.

     In rgb mode it should work fine, though you might need to use resistors
to lower the output from the Atari, as I know that was needed with Sony 
rgb tv's. There was a file around descibing how to hook up Sony SCART
connectors, that had a pi3 picture. I don't remember the name, but I know it's
on GEnie, if not on atari.archive.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Subject: Re: Falcon price
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:50:44 GMT


In a previous article, RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Julian F. Reschke) says:

>
>In article <25134@castle.ed.ac.uk>, simonk@castle.ed.ac.uk (Simon Kinahan) says:
>>
>>  Recent word in the UK says L 399 which is fairly impressive.
>>  This price is for the 1Mb no hard disk (I strongly suspect therefore
>>unusable ) model.
>>  How much the higher models cost I do not know.
>>  Magazines here in brittain are publishing pictures (not photoshopped
>>this time) of a dark grey (black if you ask me) box and a thoroughly
>>densely packed looking circuit board with both IDE drive slot and a
>>SCSI 2 interface.
>>  And yes its true about the yelllow keycaps but they don't look half as
>>bad as you might imagine.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Simon Kinahan  simonk@castle.ed.ac.uk   "Only in our dreams are we truly free.
>>               scgk@dcs.ed.ac.uk         The rest of the time we need wages."
>>                                            --Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters
>>
>
>Production falcons have the normal ST grey casing, and a darker keyboard.
>
>___________________________ cut here _____________________________________
>JULIAN F. RESCHKE, HENSENSTR. 142, D-W4400 MUENSTER
>EMAIL: JULIAN@MATH.UNI-MUENSTER.DE, JR@MS.MAUS.DE
>____________________ correct me if I'm wrong _____________________________


Are you sure?  I thought someone said it would have a dark grey color
and have white key caps...

In fact, I was pretty sure that this is what it was going to be
to distinguish it from the normal STs.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: smiller@bnr.ca (Scott Miller)
Subject: Who will buy a Falcon?  Me.  Maybe...
Reply-To: no email access
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:28:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.151149.8953@newshost.lanl.gov>, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
|>  
|> So how many _really_ intend to buy one?

I spend all day working with computers, so I don't go home and hack with 
them very much anymore.  However, the Falcon could be a KILLER video game
machine, that will do lots of other things if the need arises.

My baseline for games (that I have played so far) is 
'Chuck Yeagars Air Combat'.  If I see a combat simulator that is as good
or better than that, another really good game or two, and it will run some
decent productivity software, I will buy one.

Around here, a 386-25/4Mb/80M HD/SVga machine is ~$1500 CDN.  The Falcon 
looks to be fairly price-competitive with that.  (a small price premium is
fine, because I hate PC's.  And, if I ever find the time or inclination to
go back to hacking at home, it sure as hell won't be on a PC)  

Well, developer-dudes (and damsels?), I am waiting.  (And I don't mind 
spending money on GOOD software!)
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: max baudrate?
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:05:27 GMT

baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>
>	Hi all,
>
>	Two things that I forgot to add in my listing of problems with
>connect.  
>	First, when going from reading news (which is ok at 7bit/even parity)
>to emacs, it goes back to interpreting 8bit/no parity, so I have to change
>the RS232C setings in order to understand what I am emacsing :)

The 8n1/7e1 thing is EMACS's problem. I have run into exactly the same thing
with a board that I connected to at 7e1. Apparently EMACS only runs in 8n1
mode. I also found 'sz' and 'rz' wanted 8n1 as well. If you are running a
shell account (I presume?) you could do a stty -evenp after you log on, then
change your term program to 8n1 and you will be in 8n1 for everything. A pain,
but better than using VI !!!! 


>
>The second thing is that XYZ does not work when run from the
>download option.  It runs XYZ (it shows the starfall stuff, buffer, etc.)
>but then it just sits there - no reaction at all.  I left it there for about
>five minutes and nothing.  Of course when I cancelled XYZ, it cancelled
>sz on the host so it puts me back at the system prompt.
>
Is this the first term program you have tried?  Have you tried Freeze Dried?

Apparently there is an ENGLISH version of Connect in circulation. As far as
the program anyway (or is this what you have now?). I gave up on trying to get
it run. I find Freeze Dried great (although I'm only running 2400). 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: This is the status of Crack Art!
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:30:50 GMT

Hi folks!
 
After a discussion with Detlef Roettger (one programmer of Crack Art)
I will summarize the status of Crack Art:
 
- The programmers are still busy to update Crack Art. (now again - because
  a lot of users have asked them to do that...)
- The actual version number is 1.25 (1.30 will be released about Oct 92)
- Some of the new features:
  + more effects
  + printer driver  (e.g. NEC, HP-Deskjet)  color!
  + boot-dumper (start your game, press reset and grab the graphics)
  + load and save GIF (actual only 320*200, but the programmers are still
    working on it)
  + support of Scanner (optional - not in distribution package)
  + two more games (tetris, pacman)
  + better menus etc.
  + lot of bug fixing (have you ever find one of them?)
- running on all STs, TTs etc. - some problems while running on Falcan 030:
  block-operations crashes and some problems with fill-styles :-(
- new extra programs (not only crackart.prg+doc)...
- more than 1 MB Ram strongly recommended! (otherwise you only have one
  or two screens)
- no english manual to the latest version, yet. (but a new, longer german
  doc)
 
In the issue 10/92 of the german ST-Magazin there will be an article
about Crack Art.
 
The version 1.22 is avaible on Maxon-PD-Disk 550.
The version 1.25 is avaible via the programmers and will be on the
ftp-site sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.1.3) next week.
  (I will post a second messages after uploading it).
The version 1.30 will be released about end of Oct 92.
 
For further information contact the authors directly (and pay your
shareware fee ;-) )
 
       Detlef Roettger               Jan Borchers
       Vienenbuger Str. 27           Vititorwall 10
W-3387 Vienenburg 2           W-3380 Goslar
       Germany                       Germany
 
Both do not have Internet-access, nor e-mail addresses....
 
 
The authors DO except foreign shareware fees! (someone droped me a note
this would not be so: you are wrong!)
 
 
Hope this helps.
Please try to contact the authors directly. I only meet Detlef once a
month... thanks.
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Atari 1040 STe system For Sale
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:53:04 GMT

Reducing my price a little on my STe system in hopes that I may get
some money out of it for fall tuition...

Hardware:
=========

Atari 1040 STe w/4 Meg and internal 800K DS/DD drive
	stereo sound - 4 joystick/mouse ports (mouse included)
	320x200x512 low, 640x200x4 med, 640x400x2 hi-mono resolution(s)
	Parallel, serial, DMA, and monitor ports - RF out for T.V{
External Atari SF 354 SS/DD 400K 3 1/2" drive and powersupply
2 joysticks & 2 joystick/mouse extension cables
NAP amber analog monitor and connection cable
Royal LetterMaster daisy wheel printer and 10' printer cable
desktop table support

Books:
======

Compute's ST Programmer's Guide
Abacus (partial series 2,3,4,5,6,10,11,12)
6502 Assembly Language Programming (for use with xfmr 6502 emulator)

Software:
=========

LDW Power Spreadsheet (VP Planner clone for ST - lotus comp)
dBMAN V (database III+ clone for ST)
Flight Simulator II (color version for STe)
MichTron SuperConductor music sequencer
Mig 29 Fulcrum (russion fighter pilot simulator - good, comes with book
		on the Mig with nice color photos and information)

I still have the original boxes for the computer, and have about 100-150
disks of PD/shareware stuff that is yours for the taking - I also am a
volunteer archiver at atari.archive.umich.edu, so if you need anything
from there, I can put it on disk for you before I send.
Among one of the features that I have for the system, is the worlds largest
collection of swimsuit and adult pictures (Spectrum 512 format) for the ST.
I won't need em anymore, so they are yours with the system.  The printer
has been added on since the last post, so the price has only
come down a little.

Asking $500 or make me an offer (I get more desperate the closer to the 14th.)

swood
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:14:39 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

>What else is included with the $1399?  For a 65 megger HD alone is not worth
>the extra $600.00 price increase

4Meg of memory.

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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: max baudrate?
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <15924@star.cs.vu.nl> msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD) writes:
>What kind of modem suits the atari Mega Ste 4 best?
>9600bd + Compression or 14400bd + Compression ?
>Is it possible to transfer data at more than 19200 bd using an Mega Ste ?
>(Using software or hardware)
>-- 

    You can do at least up to 19,200 baud on Modem port 1 on all ST's (with
RTS/CTS and Serial fix are helpful)...

    With the MegaSTe, you can do up to 153600 on Modem 2/Serial 2.  Download
the program ConNect 1.8i - it will let you use Modem 1, Modem 2, Serial 2,
or MIDI for telecomm.  I've done 38400 null modeming on Modem 2 myself...

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

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