From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Report: U.S insists Pakistan prove its's not backing terrorists
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:54:03 CST
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Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1isvejINN3m2@transfer.stratus.com>, nazir@sw.stratus.com 
>(Meer Nazir) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.144943.46297@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>> In article <ll3fo0INN9p@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, tsreddy@skitime.Eng.Sun.COM 
>> (T.S.Reddy) writes:
>> > In article <1993Jan11.080708@IASTATE.EDU> maali@IASTATE.EDU (Muhammad A Ali) 
>> >writes:
>> >>In article <1993Jan10.194952.17472@oakhill.sps.mot.com>,
>> >>fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt) writes:
>> ....... (deleted)......
>> 
>>   However, in both Mr.Ali and Reddy's vein, Pakistan must stop funding the
>>   JKLF forces in Kashmir. You see, gentlemen, the situation is quite grim with
>>   Pakistan. Robert Gates the CIA director had filed a report - following which
>>   James Baker III sent a letter to Pakistan - requesting them to stop all the
>>   terrorism in Kashmir. If Pakistan has to survive to see a better tomorrow,
>>   then she must resort to logical ways of spending money in industries and 
>>   in R&D. The getting of the "cherished Islamic N-Bomb" and instigating all
>>   the hostilities is what is giving Pakistan a bad name. This has probably
>>   nothing to do with religion, but, unfortunately power-hungry politicians
>>   will grab anything to save their seats.
>> 
> 
> Well said deb, but remeber that US is just playing a pressure tactis on Pakistan, these tactis all of us know started from the Nuclear Program issue. One should not forget that US has never shown a slightest interest in Kashmir problem.
> So if India thinks that this pressure tactis is going to help their cause, I will say they are dreaming. The moment US able to squeeze out from Pakistan what
> they are looking for, both of our countries will still keep on playing hide and seek and we will see Kashmir problem as it is.
>

  Meer, you and I both know to all the pores in our body that it is the poor
  who suffer. Giving religious color to what is going on is the game that
  political parties play. Now, upon having said that just see who is getting
  the benefit ? India has reduced herself in the arms race. While on the 
  reverse, Pakistan is spending about 30% of her GNP in arms purchase. (It
  is becasue of fear from India - who have by all standards reduced quite 
  significantly the arms production.) I am saying all this because I worked
  with HAL (where defense aircrafts are designed and produced) from 1983-'87.
  Just see the EPW review on India's cutting down of defense spending. (I can
  quote the exact article, but, I must refresh my sources.)

  The policy of GOI should be directed towards reducing religious 
  fundamentalism and implementing a single Federal law that will address
  the major economic and legal issues affecting the citizens (850 million)
  in the subcontinent. This *has* never been attempted. Moreover, to our
  utter dismay, Muslims (a significant number of them) are gathering together
  under the communal umbrella of the Jamaat-i-Islam party and voicing protest
  against such new and beneficial forms. If some group of people take the
  oath of going against whatever reforms the GOI is trying to do, any average
  Indian (average educated, I mean) will get disillusioned. To top it all your
  country (no offense meant) is offering "moral, and, diplomatic" support to
  JKLF and militant Islamic Jihad groups in Kashmir. This makes any Indian
  simply mad and filled with extreme hate. I have asked the same question to
  one Mr.Sareer A.Fazili - regarding this and lets see what brilliance this
  honorable gentlemen shows. In the meantime, lemme repeat the question:

  If in the U.S, Muslims try creating a "dar-ul-Islam" as has happened in
  India, and, is now taking place in kashmir, what will the U.S citizens who
  maybe non-Muslims do ? The added comonality in both cases is that in both
  these countries (U.S and India) Muslims are a numerical minority. can you
  overturn the U.S Federal laws here by the Sharia ? If so, where has this
  been done ? I want a specific example - where a specific Federal law has been
  overturned and the Islamic law has been implemented specifically to include
  Muslims. This is the bone of the discontent. While educated persons like yiu
  and me might agree that such is a ridiculous situation, many don't. These
  many are poor uneducated Muslims - falling prey to the mullahs of Jamaat.
  (Same with the Hindus of Shiv Sena. Personally, I faced this problem in
  1985 at Matunga in Bombay while I was deputed to work on some project.)

  In conclusion, this leads one to believe  abolishing of the *political
  importance* of religion in a country like India (or maybe Pakistan) *is*
  the solution. Otherwise "dar-ul-Islam" and as a consequence of which the
  mindless riots as in Ayodhya will continue to erupt frequently.

  I also think that the clarion call from Iran to obtain an "Islamic solution"
  on Kashmir and interfering with Muslims in India - despite Imam Syed Abdullah
  Bukhari's rejections, is a symbol of intolerance and demands total attention
  in the form of fierce protest by GOI. This is really unthinkable as Iran
  and Pakistan have no respect for other countries soverignity. Such countries
  do not qualify to be enjoined into the borders of civilized societies. (Just
  think, if you cannot tolerate your neighbor's face, will you kill him ?)

  What is happening outside India is and never was India's buisness.


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   - regards,

     deb chatterjee
   (a good samaritan)
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