From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Cheap Animation
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:01:36 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <DAN.92Dec15143134@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
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>[snip] 
> stupid.  Interesting that no one ever mentions Rescuers Down Under,
> which for my money, was the best thing Disney's done in years.  It had

	I agree.  I call RDU "The Most Underrated Disney Movie".  It is
an excellent movie.  As good, in it's own way, as TLM and B&B.

>[snip] 
> It also fascinates me how Beauty and the Beast and Little Mermaid
> subtly emphasize small-mindedness while on the surface, condemning it.
> TLM in particular, struck me as very shallow, with its central
> character's fondest wish being to change her race in order to date
> some cute boy.  Yeah yeah, so she defied her father, so what?  What
> sort of message does this send to young girls?  And then in B&B - I
> really have to wonder, would Belle have gone for the Beast in his
> post-Beast form if he had turned out to look like say, Woody Allen?
> Lucky for her, he turned out to be even prettier than Gaston!
> Rescuers Down Under dealt with adult characters and more realistic
> romantic conflicts,  as well as the central environmental conflict.

	I disagree with these interpretations of TLM and B&B.  Others
have responded better than I can.

>[snip] 
> 
> And for the record, I consider Bluth a dead loss at this point.

  Tragically, so do I.

>								  Sorry
> to say it, but for all their alleged love of classic animation, I've
> noticed two things about their movies - they all have TERRIBLE scripts

	I agree.  Don Bluth is many fine things in animation, but he is
not a good script writer.  Trouble is, HE KEEPS WRITING SCRIPTS!

> (any fan of the original novel "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH" will
> never forgive him for ruining what would have been a terrific animated
> film, had they adapted the book)

	I've read the book, and it certainly is alot more coherent than
the mish-mash that is the script for SoN.  "Made a terrific animated
film"?  Well, maybe.


>				    and the animation always looks the
> same.  Since NIMH, I've learned to spot the Bluth animation style a
> mile away: everyone *bounces* and grins ALL THE TIME, and I guess he
> just finds buck teeth abut the cutest thing there is.  
>
	Not noticed this at all.

	Before all my fellow Bluth/SoN fans take umbrage, SoN remains my
all-time favorite animated film.  Among other things, it is the most
<beautiful> animated film ever made -- by that I mean in the use of
color.  Jerry Goldsmith's music haunts me, and even with all the holes
in the story, it never fails to move me when I watch it.

> [snip]
> - Dan
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					Tom
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