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From: hb@vpnet.chi.il.us (hank barta)
Subject: HELP - can't read 2nd floppy on 3.11 install
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 00:59:59 GMT



I'm trying to install Netware 3.11 on a 25 Mhz 386 (AMI BIOS)
with an IDE drive and both 3 1/2 and 5 1/4 diskette drives.

When I try to load the system and public files on the server,
the first floppy reads in OK but when the system goes to read
the second diskette, the drive select light flashes once and 
INSTALL program beeps and asks for the same diskette. There is
no report of any sort of error.

The diskette drive works fine under DR-DOS and QA+ reports no 
errors when the drive is tested. I've copied all the disks to
5 1/4 and tried with a 5 1/4 as the primary drive with identical
results.

Thanks for any light you can shed on this,
hank


barta@pswin.chi.il.us          hb@vpnet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: eriks@outland.ccs.yorku.ca (Eriks Rugelis)
Subject: Re: ThinNet vs 10baseT: one is faster
Summary: 10baseT and 10base2 should be indistinguishable
Organization: York University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:02:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.060007.4140@unixg.ubc.ca> martell@ucs.ubc.ca (Jonn Martell) writes:

   In some recent tests, we have found ThinNet to be faster than 10baseT
   under heavy (packet/sec) load. (Scary but true)
	....
   We have a PS/2 lab that was connected using a 10baseT concentrator with 
   10baseT tranceivers at each of the machines.  We converted several of 
   them to ThinNet and saw a dramatic increase in speed during high 
   packet/sec levels.

When you convert from 10baseT to 10base2 what exactly do you change?
Does controller in the PC change or do you just put an external transceiver
on the AUI port.

I would take a serious look at the quality of your 10baseT wiring (do
you have a device that will certify the wire for 10baseT use?)...  we
happen to use a Next Scanner(TM) from MicroTest but there are several
similar products on the market.  We routinely scan every circuit that we
install and this has saved us MAN-WEEKS of after-the-fact debugging time.

What sort of hubs are you using.  It is possible that there is a problem
there?  Do have intelligent hubs that can give you detailed traffic and
error counters on a per-port basis (you should! it is a false economy
to not buy the smarts).  Look at the counters.  We've had behaviours
like this resulting from marginal controller cards.  The hub actually
pointed us in the right direction!

   Does anyone have any experience with similar problems (high packet/s - 
   10baseT problems).

We have several large (100+ nodes) subnets running 10baseT and Fibre.
In one case, where I did some measurements last week, we see peak
packet rates in excess of 3000/second and occasional peak utilizations
of 58%.  So far as I know, the only thing that ever falls over are
the crummy stinkin' Ethernet controllers that IBM sticks in their MCA
based RS/6000's.  Rumour has it that there's a fix in the works for those.
I'll believe that when I see it!  :-(

Subnets with peak (not average!) rates of 1000 packets/sec are not uncommon
around here.  We buy lots and lots of SMC (used to be WD) cards for MCA
and ISA (although Cabletron's pricing is MUCH improved... gotta look at them
again).  So far, we're pretty happy.

Eriks
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From: renev@jupiter.idca.tds.philips.nl (Rene de Vries)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Slow printing on Novel 2.2 and clipper 5.0
Summary: Slow printing when a clipper application is started on a novell server
Keywords: novell printing clipper
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:05:45 GMT
Reply-To: renev@idca.tds.philips.nl (Rene de Vries)
Disclaimer: This opinion is mine alone

Hello,

I've got a problem using Novell 2.2 (NON-dedicated), clipper 5.0.

The problem is : When any clipper application is started on the server 
running Novel 2.2 (NON-dedicated) , all printing gets slow.
But when WordPerfect is run on the same server and starts printing,
nothing is wrong. I think it is a problem of clipper, but if
you have an idea what it could be please send me an e-mail.

Rene de Vries.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dbuckley@cix.compulink.co.uk (David Buckley)
Subject: Re: Leak in Novell                      
Cc: dbuckley@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: dbuckley@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:38:22 +0000

Various questions have been asked how knock works.

I appears that it repeatedly (150 tries / second) attempts to login to the
chosen server / account with a null password.  NetWare bounces the request,
as you'd expect. Eventually, though, it appears NetWare gets bored rejecting
the request, and just lets you in...

heavens only knows why?

The above explains why the program has been called Knock...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: How does one determine what's causing slow performance
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:00:12 GMT

I have a 3.11 server that has been reaching slightly over 200 users the last 
few days (as a result of students returning for the fall semester), and the 
system is showing definite performance problems.  The server is an ALR 
Power VEISA 486/33 with 49 megs of RAM, 2 gigs of disk space (in two 1 gig 
disks), a Procomp EISA scsi disk controller, a CNet CN900E Eisa ethernet 
card.  The server services a campus-wide collection of PC's located on 
various router segments.

My question:  what can I do, short of installing another file server, to 
determine what we can do to improve performance.  At this time, I really 
have no idea if the performance problems are CPU related, hard disk related, 
network related, a combination of these, or something else.  Is there some 
sort of monitoring tools that I can use to better determine the cause?  I 
have Lanalyzer but don't really think that can help me too much.  If 
anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

___
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Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-4364
Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul.Steele@acadiau.ca
From: hughesk@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Kirby W. Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: error: intermediate file error duing pipe (no write to dir)
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:09:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Is there any way to make the temporary files that pipe ("|") creates
go to some specified directory?  If I am in a dir that I don't have
write privs in, and try to do some kind of pipe that creates a temporary
file, I get a "intermediate file error during pipe".  SET TEMP doesn't
seem to do it for pipes...
(I am guessing this is the cause of the error.)

Thanks,
Kirby Hughes      hughesk@gas.uug.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Remote Printer Protocol
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:05:20 GMT

  I've been looking around various ethernet print servers, and 
there seems to be generally two different ways of setting up
a print queue:

  1) Allow the box to be run the Pserver code (which burns a login
     slot)
  2) Load the Pserver VAP/NML on the file server and use the Remote
     Printer protocol which is what the RPRINTER tsr runs on the
     PC. (Limited to 16 printers/fileserver)

  My question is does anybody use #2? If so *why*? It seems far more
kludgy to set up and requires that you reload the PSERVER NML/VAP
each time you add a new print server. 
  What are the advantages (if any)?
-- 

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		-- Hobbes to Calvin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: luit@gmd.de (Dieter van Luit)
Subject: Use of ODI & Remote Boot
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:40:41 GMT

A simple question: What program is needed to do a remote boot  with ODI 
                   drivers ?

My start file uses: LSL
		    NE2000
		    ODIPKT
		    IPXODI
		    NETX

Problem: While loading the ODIPKT driver, my computer hangs.

Many thanks for any help,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: nsharma@sharm.uucp (Nawien Sharma)
Subject: LIPX.COM and LIPX.NLM ?
Organization: Sharmtech Systems Inc., Willowdale, Ont., Canada
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 05:04:36 GMT

Where can the above files be obtained from ? Does a router have to perform
special handling to support packet size negotiation over a WAN ?

Thank you.
-- 
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106 Norton Avenue, Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2N 4A5
(TEL): 416-512-7878 (UUCP): sharm.UUCP
From: 9531mide@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Curt A. Mideiros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: TCP/IP Routing via NW3.11
Keywords: help
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:24:12 GMT
Distribution: comp


I'm having a strange problem routing TCP/IP on NetWare v3.11.
I can't seem to route IP to our T/R and Enet networks at the same time.
I only seem to be able to route one or the other, depending on the 	
last one bound. 
 -------------------------------------- campus broadband
                    |
                    | 128.111.254.123 (ether)
                    |
            +-------+----------+
            | Netware 3.11 FS  |
            +------------------+
                |         |
128.111.123.1   |         |  128.111.123.3
                |         |
    |--T/R Net--+-|     |-+--- Enet ---|

AUTOEXEC.NCF :  
              load TCPIP forward=yes rip=yes
              load TOKEN frame=token-ring_snap     name=trsnap
              load xxxxx frame=ethernet_II board=1 name=enet_II
              load xxxxx frame=ethernet_II board=2 name=broadband	

              bind ip to broadband addr=128.111.254.123 mask=ff.ff.ff.0
              bind ip to enet_II   addr=128.111.123.3   mask=ff.ff.ff.0
              bind ip to tr_snap   addr=128.111.123.1   mask=ff.ff.ff.0

At this point, only ip over token works.  If I then unbind enet_II, and 
rebind, then ip/ether works but not ip/token.  I can then unbind     
tr_snap and rebind, then ip/token works but not ip/ether, and so on.
It seems only one or the other will work but not both.  Does any one
have any ideas ??  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Curt A. Mideiros
University of California @ Santa Barbara
Computer Center - 2316 Girvetz Hall
Santa Barbara, CA 93106
   Phone: (805) 893-8601
  Bitnet: 9531mide@ucsbvm.bitnet
Internet: 9531mide@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Where can I get ODIPKT (ODI Packet) drivers? 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 01:29:54 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <b4+pr8f.peterh@netcom.com> peterh@netcom.com writes:

   Does anybody know where I can get an ODI packet driver that is compatible
   with NCSA telnet & CUTCP?

hsdndev.harvard.edu...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
From: jmfres11@ucs.usl.edu (Karthikeyan Gurnswamy)
Subject: Re: Protection from KNOCK.EXE
Keywords: Protection, KNOCK, security
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:24:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.235605.7537@umr.edu> rfranken@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Richard Brett Frankenberger) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.212613.5640@usl.edu> jmfres11@ucs.usl.edu (Karthikeyan Gurnswamy) writes:
>>Hi Netters!,
>>
>>Some ways to save your network from KNOCK.EXE (Netware 3.x ) are:
>>(a) Limit the concurrent logins to 1 for the supervisor. Login in
>>as supervisor on your pet node. Lock the computer when you get out.
>>(b) Station restrictions: Make sure that the supervisor can login from
>>some node x and you have the room or computer key.
>>
>>***  Don't ever logout from this node...
> 
>(2) The (a) and (b) do not guarantee 100% that KNOCK.EXE will not work.  First,
>the MAC address (and thus the IPX address) of a workstation can be changed.
>On token ring , quite easily, using parameters documented in Novell's ODI  
>manual; and I'm told its not too tought to do on E-Net either, although I use
>TR only.  In many cases, you can log out the supervisor from his first
>connection simply by bringing up a second PC with the same MAC address.
>(Token-Ring fans: this can be done quite easily on Token-Ring - it is not hard
>to defeat the duplicate address check during insertion, and there is no such
>check on E-Net).
> 

Sorry - Changing the MAC address on the fly will not help you to get into
supervisor mode. The reason is - the client and server are state driven
that is maintains tables and numbers in NET3 (Please refer to old articles
on Netware Techincal Journals on 'Cracking the NET3' shell..) and just
rerouting packets to a new station will not work at all. (a) and (b) do
guarantee 100 % reliability !

Karthik
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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Help with ODI/Kermit binding.next
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:00:05 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Oct2.094617.20798@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, ccsjaas@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Julian Sims) writes:
> 
> Would someone please consider posting their appropriate configuration files
> for the ODI/Kermit TCP/IP - Novell 3.11 happy family.  I am running smcplus
> cards (16 bit) at 60 3 0x280 0xd00.  Yes this is cheating but the pressure is
> on.
> Thanks
> J.Sims 
> J.SIMS ESQ
> SMALL SYSTEMS/SOCIAL SCIENCES	
-------------
	See files
	msr312.upd	update to MSK v3.12. First item has ODI examples
	mskerm.bwr	beware file, more comments on the matter
via anonymous ftp to watsun.cc.columbia.edu, cd kermit/a. The examples include
a WD8003E board.
	Joe D.
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: KNOCK.EXE Security threat clarified and explained
Keywords: Security Novell NetWare
Date: 27 Sep 92 06:07:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard) writes:
>KNOCK.EXE is an old, known threat to Novell network file server running 
>Netware 2.15c or earlier, or NetWare 3.10a or earlier.  NetWare 2.2 and 
>NetWare 3.11 are not affected.  This problem was addressed in April of 1991 
>with the patches that can be found in SEC286.ZIP and SEC386.ZIP.

Unfortunately, Novell's announcement of this (or lack thereof) was
underwhelming.  The vast majority of 2.15C sysadmins still don't
realize that any J.Random can walk up to a client PC and gain SU
prives in less than 10 minutes.

>Now to expose KNOCK.EXE for what it is.  KNOCK is a hacked copy of Novell's
>LOGIN.EXE v2.00.

Actually, I believe it is a hacked version of ATTACH.EXE.

>  If you 
>have intruder detection turned on, the breakin attempt will be defeated.

This is NOT true.  Do NOT go to sleep tonight comfortable that your
servers are protected from KNOCK or hacks like it because you've
turned-on intruder detection.  Attempts to login that fail due to a
missing password are not recorded as failed login attempts by Intruder
Detection.  I don't know why Novell puts this BS in the description
for SEC286.ZIP and 310PT1.ZIP -- it lulls the uninformed sysadmin into
a false sense of security.
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User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Availability of Novell for RT
From: hartmans@npc.ece.utexas.edu (Sam Hartman)
Date: 05 Oct 92 22:30:49 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Texas at Austin

	Is there a port of Novell for the IBM RT/PC running AIX (IBM's System V UNIX)? I know there's a port of Novell for
the RISC/6000, but I am not sure if anyone ported Novell to the
earlier machine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Need Information regarding CNE....
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:57:29 GMT
Organization: Messina Software

<IO92321@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

>Hi!!!
>I am planning to take Certified Netware Engineer
>(CNE) exam and i was wondering if someone out there
>could help me regarding this. I know that Novell
>offer courses regarding CNE but i don't know how
>can i register for those courses etc......
>I would appreciate if some one can help me.
>     thanx
>                        io92321@maine.maine.edu

1-800-RED-EXAM


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From: mcintosh@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Phil McIntosh)
Subject: Netware NFS lprm and ABEND
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:14:33 GMT


I was wondering if anyone else had heard of/seen/encountered a problem
with Netware NFS V1.2 whereby trying to remove a print job from a queue
using the lprm command causes the Netware server to abend.

If so, is there is known solution/bug fix for this.

Thanks in advance.


Phillip McIntosh ( p.mcintosh@trl.oz.au ) | Don't ask me why 
Telecom Research Laboratories             | Why I've lived with this all alone
770 Blackburn Rd. Clayton                 | Locked up inside
Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3168                  | And it's cutting me to the bone 	
                                          |     - Richard Marx

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: How to upgrade 3.11 from 20 to 50 users?
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:26:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.150900.12608@news.th-darmstadt.de> kielmann@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Thilo Kielmann) writes:
|We are running a NW3.11 server with a 20 users licence. What we want to do is:
|1. upgrade this server to 50 users
|2. set up a new server for 20 users

|Buying an upgrade from 20 to 50 users plus a new 20 users licence is much
|more expensive than just buying a new 50 users license.
 
|So, does anybody know if it is possible to "upgrade" a server by just copying
|from the 50 user diskette(s)? Will there be any problems (e.g. with
|binderies)?

Just buy a 50-user package, and copy the SERVER.EXE program onto your old
server. Swap the discs that hold it between the packages, and install the
"new" package using the old SERVER.EXE disc.

I suspect Novell would rather you spent money on the upgrade, but this is
cheaper, and as far as I know, legit.


-- 

Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"...I looked out my window, and saw Kyle Pettys' car upside down, then I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Windows application to replace Novell's "Mail"?
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:06:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.094834.2497@news.uit.no> ole@gorgon.forut.no (Ole Jorgen Maland ?) writes:
>I have real problems with teaching new users how to use the "Mail" program
>that is shipped with Novell v2.15c. The user interface is really bad. So does
>anybody know about another mail program that can be used in stead of Novell's
>"Mail"? 

Pegasus mail. Look for it on splicer.cba.hawaii.edu, uunet, and other places.
Works real well; we switched to it from cc:Mail after lotus bought cc:Mail
and raised the add-on pack price about 5x.

>P.S. I am not interested in an E-mail app. to send messages via internet, just
>local mail on our Novell net.

Fine; then you don't need the Charon gateway. Handy to know it's there,
in case you ever need to hook up, though.

-- 

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The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"...I looked out my window, and saw Kyle Pettys' car upside down, then I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ole@gorgon.forut.no (Ole Jorgen Maland ?)
Subject: Windows application to replace Novell's "Mail"?
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Norwegian Telecom/FORUT, Norway
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:48:34 GMT

I have real problems with teaching new users how to use the "Mail" program
that is shipped with Novell v2.15c. The user interface is really bad. So does
anybody know about another mail program that can be used in stead of Novell's
"Mail"? 

P.S. I am not interested in an E-mail app. to send messages via internet, just
local mail on our Novell net.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: DougMenu ftp site ----
Date: 1 Oct 1992 21:08:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu




People have been asking where the most recent version of DougMenu is kept.


Thanks to Davey Chan of the Weatherhead School of Management, the 
newest version of DougMenu will be kept on shasta.scl.cwru.edu in the 
dos/menus/DougMenu directory.