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From: pieter@cs.caltech.edu (Pieter Hazewindus)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: rec.travel.for.nice.people.like.us (was Re: World Travel)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:40:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hector.cs.caltech.edu

citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
>Everybody writes:
>>->>This is a great idea! 
>>->
>>->I think it's a good idea too.  
>
>I'd suggest starting with a mailing list, and periodically advertising the
>existence of the list on rec.travel.

No, no, that's the world turned upside down!  There should be mailing
lists for people that want State Department advisories, and for those
that have 5-percent-off-on-Tuesdays-at-the-Ritz-Carlton coupons for
sale, and for "Has anyone been to Organ?" queries.  Then the rest of
us can go back to the interesting stuff.

I do see a great need for a group called, perhaps,
rec.travel.i.don't.say.thank.you.

Pieter Hazewindus				pieter@cs.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ashok@hpesask.fc.hp.com (Ashok Kumar)
Subject: Northwest First Class Upgrades 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:56:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Fort Collins, CO


Are you travelling on Northwest Airlines over Thanskgiving weekend?
These may be for you . . .

I have two 1-way first class upgrades good on Northwest Airlines
before November 30, 1992.  They are good on published Y and
-26, -27 (Y, B, M, Q, V, or K) type fares.

Price: $29 for both including 2nd day air shipping

Please call Northwest at 1-800-225-2525 to make sure you can use these
before replying to me.  They are confirmed space upgrades, so they
can check availability/applicability over the phone.


Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.marketplace
From: aszilard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Agnes Szilard)
Subject: Cheap place to stay near NY over Christmas, New Year
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:31:43 GMT


This is a posting for a friend.
PLease, reply directly to him:

stipsicz@math.rutgers.edu

_________________________________________________________________________

I have a 3 bedroom appartement I want to sublet approximately
between Dec. 15 - Jan. 15. (We will be in Europe.)

It's in New Brunswick, NJ, (Rutgers Univ.) 
1 hour from Manhattan ( $9 RT bus, save on parking/time/nerves), 
1.5 hours from Philadelphia, 
20 minutes from Princeton, 
2.5 hours from Baltimore.

Ideal for many people, large family on an Eastcoast tourist trip
who are looking for nice but cheap accomodation.

Price: 200 a week or 600 for the month. (negotiable)
Of course, I will be needing either a reference or a security deposit.

If you are interested e-mail any questions to: stipsicz@math.rutgers.edu

Andras

____________________________________________________________________________
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Malaysia
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:28:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Malaysia
============================================================
Malaysia - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located at 376 Jalan Tun 
Razak 50400, Kuala Lumpur.  The mailing address is P.O. Box No. 
10035, 50700 Kuala Lumpur; telephone (60-3) 248-9011.

Country Description:  Malaysia is a federal parliamentary democracy 
with a constitutional monarch.  Tourist facilities and services are 
available in major areas of interest.

Entry Requirements:  A passport is required.  Visas are not 
required for stays of up to three months.  Yellow fever and cholera 
immunizations are necessary if arriving from infected areas.  For 
further information the traveler can call the Embassy of Malaysia, 
2401 Mass. Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20008, tel. (202) 328-2700.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities and services are adequate 
in the larger cities.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate 
cash payment for health services.  U.S. medical insurance is not 
always valid outside the United States.  Supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved useful.  The 
international travelers hotline of the Centers for Disease Control 
at (404) 332-4559 has additional useful health information.

Information on Crime:  Major crimes against tourists are uncommon.  
Petty crimes such as pickpocketing and purse-snatching are common in 
tourist areas.  Useful information on guarding valuables and 
protecting personal security while traveling abroad is provided in 
the Department of State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad".  It is 
available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government 
Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Malaysia strictly enforces its drug laws. 
Malaysian legislation provides for a mandatory death penalty for 
convicted drug traffickers.  Individuals arrested in possession of 
fifteen grams (1/2 ounce) of heroin or two hundred grams (7 ounces) 
of marijuana are presumed by law to be trafficking in drugs.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security within the country.

 No. 92-102

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ekins@infonode.ingr.com (Brian Ekins)
Subject: Suggestions for Hotel near Disney World
Keywords: hotel, disney
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:06:44 GMT

We'll be going to Disney World in the future and I'm looking for any
suggestions for hotels near the park.  I'm looking for very reasonable
prices and nice clean rooms.  Free breakfasts would also be an attractive
feature.  The closer to the park the better, but if the price is right a
few extra miles of driving is tolerable.  I have the AAA guide and have
been looking through it but it some personal experiences help go a long
way in finding the best values.

Thanks for any input.

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From: ngsw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Soon Wei NG)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:29:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Travel Tips Wanted
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.travel

Try going to the PEAK at night. The night view of Kowloon/HK waterfront is
simply spectacular! No joke. It's also 2-3 deg C lower than the temperature 
at sea level. 

I tried almost all modes of transportation (except train) during my visit
to HK last month. I enjoyed the ferry and tram ride the most cause they're
the slowest. You get to enjoy the view as you commute. I definitely advise
against taxi ride. You see so little but you pay so much! Tram and ferry
rides cost only HK$1 and HK$1.20 respectively. 

As for food, you must definitely try the following :-

1. Stewed Pigeon. You can get this almost at any small eating place. 
2. Snake Paste. I did not try this. Regrets.                        
3. Road Side Food. You'll see a lot of road-side food stalls selling everything
   from glutinous rice to "chee-cheong-fun". They're cheap and tasty. 
   I have my reservations for hygiene, though.
4. Egg Tart. A must. 
5. Noodles. They come in a variety of style from beef stewed to prawn dumplings.   All taste good (but unhealthy).

And yes, try getting a window seat on the plane. The plane comes so close to
residential housing during touchdown that I actually saw someone hanging cloth- ings in the comfort of their apartment. Its an experience you'll only get in 
Hong Kong!!

Enjoy your trip....
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Papua
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:17:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Papua New Guinea
============================================================
Papua New Guinea - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located in Port Moresby city 
at Armit St.  The mailing address is P.O. Box 1492, APO AE 96553; 
tel (675) 211-455/594/654.

Country Description:  Papua New Guinea is a parliamentary 
democracy.  Tourist facilities are somewhat limited.

Entry Requirements:  Passport and onward/return ticket are 
required.  As of September 1, 1992, foreigners must obtain entry 
documents before arrival.  An AIDS test is required for a work 
permit.  For longer stays and additional information, the traveler 
can contact the Embassy of Papua New Guinea, Suite 300, 1615 New 
Hampshire Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20009, tel. (202) 745-3680.

Areas of Instability:  The Government of Papua New Guinea does not 
allow travel to Bougainville, the largest island in the North 
Solomon Province, because of an active armed insurgency.  An 
Indonesian secessionist group remains active along the largely 
inaccessible Papua New Guinea/Indonesia border.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities in Port Moresby are 
generally adequate for emergencies.  Most serious endemic diseases 
are not a problem.  Hospitals and pharmacies are small and limited 
to urban centers and missions.  Malaria prophylaxes are often 
utilized.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment 
for health services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid 
outside the United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with 
specific overseas coverage has proved useful.  More specific 
information on health matters can be obtained from the Centers for 
Disease Control's international travelers hotline, tel: (404) 
332-4559.

Information on Crime:  No unusual security problems have been 
reported in areas most frequented by tourists, including Madang and 
Rabaul.  Organized boat cruises on the Sepik River have a good 
safety record.  Walking tours in the bush require careful planning.  
Armed robberies and assaults on women have been a problem in Port 
Moresby and other large urban centers.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security within the country.

 No. 92-109

Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.indian
From: mohanram@wsl.dec.com (Narayan Mohanram)
Subject: Re: Bad experience on Malaysia Airlines
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:44:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.031117.22136@athena.cs.uga.edu>, venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (ABDUL PETER IYENGAR) writes:
|> The amount we spend posting these ridiculous anecdotes and gripes would
|> be more expensive than waiters we can tip for a coupole of years. That 
|> is how priviliged we are.
|> It is like discussing poverty in a five star hotel.
|> gopa
|> ABDUL PETER IYENGAR

You missed the point. By posting these article, you hope to steer away
people from doing business with these airlines. This is our way at getting
at bussiness that you view are bad and unfair. When they start losing customers
they will have to come around. There is not better way to get at these
people than with your $$.

I for one concur with some of these poster's experiences with Malaysian
airlines. They are the rudest airlines I have seen to this day. I will
not give them my business.

Narayan
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: World Travel
From: connolly@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Connolly Sean)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:27:19 GMT
Reply-To: connolly@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com
 <1992Nov13.001635.4285@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> <1992Nov13.181110.20535@ncar.ucar.edu>
Organization: GE M&DSO - VF

In article <1992Nov13.181110.20535@ncar.ucar.edu>, ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.001635.4285@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> > We also need a catchy name.
> > 
> > I suggest
> > rec.travel.travellers
> > or even better
> > rec.travel.lers
> 
> Ack, no!  I hope you're not serious!  A name needs to convey some
> real information about what goes on in that group.  I think that
> the previously suggested rec.travel.adventure is ideal.
> 

	Perhaps. But I think that, at least for the people the group is 
dedicated to, rec.travel.travellers is perfect.  It conveys all the info
needed to those of us who are travelers.  Not all travel is about
adventure.  
	What did I mean by that last remark?  Who knows.  Adventure just
seems like too strong/glitzy a word for what I hope will be a 
down-to-earth group.
	Since I started this thing, I guess its my responsibility to see
it through...  See my next posting for what I think the group should be like.

-- 
Sean Connolly
connolly@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com
Xref: sparky rec.travel:15882 soc.culture.african:6303
From: ayoub@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Nabil Ayoub)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: EGYPT, how safe/crazy is it now?
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:50:45 GMT
Reply-To: ayoub@erctitan.me.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison

In article <1992Nov23.205441.18498@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov23.163727.12937@ll.mit.edu> malpass@ll.mit.edu (Don Malpass) writes:
>>  [...] If you have thoughts to share on this subject, please email them
>>to me and perhaps post them for others.  I have a few weeks in which to
>>make up my mind before forfeiting more than the deposits.
>
>  The answer is: safe! While there is no guarantee, I can tell you from
>personal experience that Egypt is very safe as far as violence is concerned.
>
>  What you should watch out for is pickpockets and swindlers. Aside from that,
>the chance of being a victim of violence in Egypt is minute compared to the
>chance of being killed in any major city in the US.
>
>  The recent violence is great in comparison with previous years, but not in
>comparison with other countries.
>
>  Have an enjoyable trip and don't forget to visit Luxor.
>

I agree with Mazen that Egypt is relatively safe compared to other 
countries. The unprcedented violence in the last few weeks is very
localized and very few people are responsible for it (and I think
the govt is taking the appropriate security measures to guarantee
the safety of all visitors). One piece of advice that may be helpful
is to use plane or train when travelling to southern Egypt (rather
than buses). Otherwise, as long as you are in big cities like 
Cairo, Alex, Luxor, or Aswan, you will be very safe esp if you are
with your group. Beware of the Bazaar shops. You need all your
bargaining skills :-)

I hope you enjoy your visit. We would like to hear your impressions
when you come back.

Nabil

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        /  Engine Research Center             /       /   /    /      /
       /  Dept. of Mechanical Engineering    ___/    __  /    /      /
      /  University of Wisconsin-Madison    /       /   |    /      /
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From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Marshall Is.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:14:46 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Marshall Islands
============================================================
Marshall Islands - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located in Majuro, c/o P.O. 
Box 1379 - telephone: (011) 692-4011.

Country Description:  The Republic of the Marshall Islands is a 
parliamentary democracy, constitutionally in free association with 
the United States.  It has a developing agrarian economy.  Tourist 
facilities are not widely available.

Entry Requirements:  Proof of U.S. citizenship, sufficient funds 
for the intended stay, and an onward/return ticket are required for 
a stay of up to 30 days.  Further specific information is available 
through the Office of the Representative for the Marshall Islands, 
Suite 1004, 1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006 - 
telephone: (202) 234-5414.

Medical Facilities:  Health facilities in the Republic of the 
Marshall Islands are adequate for routine medical problems, but may 
be limited in availability and quality.  Doctors and hospitals often 
expect immediate cash payment for health services.  U.S. medical 
insurance is not always available outside the United States.  In 
some cases supplemental medical insurance with specific overseas 
coverage has proved useful.  The international travelers hotline of 
the Centers for Disease Control at (404) 332-4559 has additional 
useful health information.

Information on Crime:  The crime rate in the Republic of the 
Marshall Islands is low.  Useful information on guarding valuables 
and protecting personal security while traveling abroad is provided 
in the Department of State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad".  It is 
available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government 
Printing Office, Washington D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy in Majuro 
can obtain updated information on travel and security within the 
area.

 No. 92-103
From: hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Spain Travel Info Needed
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:00:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov23.080059.8918
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

My wife and I are planning a trip to Spain this Christmas and would like
to get as much first hand knowledge as possible.   We are interested in
travel off the "beaten path" and are on a budget. 

PS: What is Spain like on Christmas, and where's the best places to travel
during this season.

Thank you 

Darrell
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: bechtler@asdg.enet.dec.com (Laurie Bechtler)
Subject: Re: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:02:27 GMT


In article <lorange.722032623@spot.Colorado.EDU>, lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (Hans L'Orange) writes...
>I'm in the process of putting together a surprise (read gag) travel folder
>for some friends about to drive cross-country.  I want to include any 
>unusual stops that I can come up with so please forward any ideas you might
>have on to me.  I'm looking for things like the largest ball of string or
>the Museum of Unusual, Nocturnal and Ugly Insects.
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Hans
> 
>-- 
>******************************************************************************
>* "I have always imagined that Paradise  *       "Let there be songs,        *
>*    will be a kind of library"          *         to fill the air"          * 
>*        Jorge Luis Borges               *                Garcia - Hunter    *                


Kokomo, IN has a large stuffed longhorn steer encased in glass under
a pavilion in a city park.  I can't for the life of me remember why
it's there.

Near Mansfield, Ohio, at Malabar Farm, former home of author Louis
Bromfield, you can visit the site where Humphrey Bogart and Lauren
Bacall got married.  

In Cumberland Falls State Resort Park, KY, you can see one of only
2 moonbows in the world.  This is a whitish rainbow over a waterfall
seen only under a full moon.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:15842 soc.culture.african:6288
From: malpass@ll.mit.edu (Don Malpass)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.african
Subject: EGYPT, how safe/crazy is it now?
Summary: How dangerous is Egypt for tourists?
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:37:27 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

I've seen both the graphical network news footage of shot-up
mini-busses and also the State Department's Travel Advisories regarding
Egypt posted here.  I am contemplating a trip in February or March, and
these reports of fundamentalist extremists have certainly captured my
attention.  In my wife's case, they've gotten her downright scared to
go.  If you have thoughts to share on this subject, please email them
to me and perhaps post them for others.  I have a few weeks in which to
make up my mind before forfeiting more than the deposits.
-- 
 --------------------- random signature of the day -------------------------
   Don Malpass   [ malpass@ll.mit.edu ],  [ LL-internal: malpass@spenser ]
  Hee hoo giveth all that he hath to the destitute joineth their ranks.
                                         (BC, Johnny Hart)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU (Hans L'Orange)
Subject: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:37:03 GMT

I'm in the process of putting together a surprise (read gag) travel folder
for some friends about to drive cross-country.  I want to include any 
unusual stops that I can come up with so please forward any ideas you might
have on to me.  I'm looking for things like the largest ball of string or
the Museum of Unusual, Nocturnal and Ugly Insects.

Thanks,

Hans

-- 
******************************************************************************
* "I have always imagined that Paradise  *       "Let there be songs,        *
*    will be a kind of library"          *         to fill the air"          * 
*        Jorge Luis Borges               *                Garcia - Hunter    *
From: vac@air16.larc.nasa.gov (Victor A. Carreno)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed about Spain
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:05:01 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: air52.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Nov20.042611.26474@mech.t.u-tokyo.AC.JP>, sato@king.pe.u-tokyo.AC.JP (Ken-ichi Sato) writes:
|> 
|> 2. Am I safe at night in Madrid ?
|>    I will arrive in Madrid about midnight. I hear it dangerous to walk
|>    alone at night in Spain. Does any one tell me the actual situation
|>    or what should I do. Of course, I will reserve a hotel room for the
|>    first night beforehand.
|> 

In two years in Europe, I saw more acts of violence than I have seen in
the last ten years in the U.S. These included a motorist geting out of his
car and kicking my car because I cut him off in a round about (traffic
circle), my office mate getting punch in the eye when he could not produce
a light (for a cigarette) when requested, etc. 

However, I still feel safer walking at 2:00 AM in Paris or Barcelona than
walking in any big city in the U.S. at 2:00 AM. Maybe it is because loosing
my wallet is not as bad as getting shot on the head.

If you arrive at midnight and get a taxi to your hotel, I don't see how you
are taking any chances. If you decide to take a stroll late at night, don't
carry jewelry and cameras and you will minimize your chances of getting
mugged. 

Good luck!

vac.