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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: SB 16 ASP woes
Originator: smintz@sedona
Reply-To: smintz@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:15:41 GMT


Gee, how quickly gravis, and PASers forget thier cards first revision....:)
Stephen
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From: mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Clarke)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:55:33 GMT
Subject: Re: SB 16 ASP woes
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, coleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A.
Coleman) writes:

> 	Well I received my SB 16 ASP from PC Connection today and it's going
> straight to Creative Labs, not passing GO and not collecting $200.  Every
> time a digitized sound is played in Wolf3d (or its handsome sequel, Spear of
> Destiny) the card erupts in hiss.  The techie at CL said this was a known 
> problem and that they need to add an oscillator or something to that effect.
> 
> 	Michael Coleman

Michael, 

Can you tell us the hardware revision of your card?  That incormation
could help some of the rest of us not buy the un-modified version.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:31:33 GMT

In article <1il315INNmpq@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
>Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
>Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:33:57 GMT


>The headphone part I don't get. If you say that it needs a setup
>similar to surround sound where you have the main front speakers,
>then you have the rear channels speakers, then I can see how this 3d,
>you-can-hear-a-jet-going-from-in-front-of-you-to-your-back, works.
>Like watching a movie using a surround setup. But how does headphones
>with only 2 speakers (left/right, no front/back) image the sound to
>your front or back? I don't get it? Are these special headphones of
>some sort we have to buy for extra $$$? How does it work?


	We all have to ears.  With two ears, we can hear sounds from the 
left/right/front/back.  With only two ears!  So I guess we can recreate the 
same sound with a two speakers headphone.  Why not?
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From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William  B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Here is the DAC circuit using DAC0800
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:57:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Is the an archive for .MOD files on Internet anywhere?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:05:07 GMT

jwilbur@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur) writes:
>I've seen it and it seems to work well.  Of course the 3d effects work
>much better if you are in the sweet spot.  Headphones were used for the
>demo at the Gravis booth...I was impressed.

I take it that this is an enhancement (or just use?) of standard
surround sound technology?

>Good News: I was told that there is no board upgrade for the 3d stuff....it's
>all in the driver!

Thank you, Gravis!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu (C. R. Oldham)
Subject: Help with PAS-16 under OS/2.
Keywords: pas-16 os/2
Organization: North Central Association, Commission on Schools
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:49:16 GMT

Greetings,

	Last night I broke down and finally bought a ProAudio Spectrum
16 card.  I had considered a GUS carefully, and also the new SB 16,
but nobody seemed to be using the GUS successfully with OS/2, and the
SB 16 was so expensive that I opted for the PAS.

	I successfully managed to get SoundBlaster mode and Adlib
emulation working OK (though I had only one game to try it with), but
I can't get any of the PAS's accompanying software to work properly.

Hardware:	CompuDyne 486/33, AMI BIOS, C&T chipset (I think)
		16 Mb RAM
		Generic IDE controller
		Maxtor 203 Mb HD
		Generic I/O card (16550 UART), 2 ser, 1 par, 1 game
		Ultra VGA video card (Tseng 4000 based)
		Logitech Series 9 mouse (serial, on com2)
		US Robotics Courier v.32 modem (on com1)

		SoundBlaster portion of the card at addr 220, IRQ 5, DMA 1.

When I choose an IRQ setting for which I know I have a conflict, the
install program behaves as expected, playing the test chord over and
over.  Some unused IRQs also cause that behavior, too, but others only
make the program play the chord 2 and 1/2 times.  I thought it was
supposed to play only once.

All of the other software that came with the card just plays the first
second or so of sound over and over.  That made me think I had an IRQ
conflict, but I tried *all* the possible IRQs.

I also tried disabling DMA sharing and changing the bus speed.  Same
results.  I also tried all of the above in both a specific DOS session
and a VDM.  No dice.

Suggestions are appreciated.  I really need to run the card under
OS/2--booting back to plain DOS is not an option.

Thanks in advance.

Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | North Central Association, Commission on Schools
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From: dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS16 SCSI port
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:28:56 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ua.d.umn.edu

In article <1993Jan5.154831.28886@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> phong@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Phong Co) writes:
>
>I would like to get a soundcard for my PC, with the possibility of getting
>a CD-ROM player later on.
>
>I notice that the PAS16 comes with a SCSI port, and that the GUS comes 
>with a SCSI option.  Can these SCSI ports be used to connect ANY SCSI 
>device, or only CD-ROMs, or only SOME CD-ROMs.  Can I, for example,
>connect a removable-cartridge SCSI drive to it?
>
>
>
>-- 
>Phong Co (phong@math.mcgill.ca)
>McGill University, Montreal, CANADA

I have the PAS+, same port, as far as I know, as the PAS16 (same specs on
their sheets).  It is sold bundled with several different SCSI cdrom drives.
It should work with almost any SCSI cdrom drive.  When I asked a question
similar to yours on the net awhile ago, I received email from someone who had
both a cdrom drive and a SCSI harddrive connected to a PAS card.  He said it
worked fine.  

BUT you have to have a software driver for each device type.  And the PAS
card requires a SCSI kit to connect to a drive.  My recommendation is that
you STRONGLY consider buying the soundcard with a cdrom drive in a bundle.
Adding a cdrom drive later to the PAS16 will end up costing quite a bit more
because they want so much for the SCSI adapter kit and driver.  Check out the
FUSION kits from Mediavision, or the GUS/philips drive package from Damark.
All these are $400-$500, and I priced each out carefully and the bundles were
always much cheaper than the cheapest prices I could get on the components.
I got the Fusion CD kit with the PAS+ and the NEC25 drive.  Cheapest I have
seen the NEC drive for is $299.  PAS+: $140.  WingCommander II and Ultima
Underworld: $48.  Carmen San Diego World Deluxe: $59  The Labtec powered
speakers: dunno, guess $35 the pair.  Mediavision external SCSI kit: &79.  So
far that's over $650 (math in head).  The kit also includes Compton's Family
Encyclopedia.  The only places I have seen advertising that want over $200
for it.  In any case, $399 for the kit is good value.

Plus it gives gratification NOW rather than delayed.  :)

The Fusion CD16 kit has the same software but an internal Sony 31a drive and
the PAS16 card.  Its around $500.

Cheers,
Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: GUS or SB16?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:02:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.000149.17088@raid.dell.com> goh@deathstar.dell.com (Peter Goh) writes:
>I went shopping for a soundcard today, and was surprised that the store
>here carry the GUS. Then I read on the box that to record 16 bit sound, 
>one have to buy the optional plug-in, and probably to add more memory 
>onto it, and if needed also a CD-ROM interface. My question is, where can 
>I get them or how much would they cost? I am pretty new to the soundcard
>thing, so isn't sure whether I should settle for a GUS or a Soundblaster 16.
>I am holding back on buying until I am sure.
>

The CR-ROM interface is out, I believe.  The 16-bit recording daughtercard
hasn't been released yet.  Memory for the GUS is standard 44256 100ns DRAM
chips.

>Another question is, is the GUS MIDI MPU-401 compatible? I am hoping it is 
>so that I can remove the MIDI card I have from Music Quest to make room.
>From what I heard, the SB16 MIDI port is MPU-401 compatible. I am currently 
>using Cakewalk Pro/Windows, planning to get Finale and Microsoft Video for
>Windows (Video capture from my Win/TV, sound ?) and want to be sure that
>they are all compatible.
>

The "MPU-401" purportedly only supports the dumb UART mode of the MPU-401
interface.  The GUS has only the dumb UART MIDI as well.  Neither will
be compatible with software that expects the smart MPU-401 mode.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: u7811091@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Fool)
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound 3D!
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:20:19 GMT

Thomas Wong (twong@civil.ubc.ca) wrote:
> In article <C0J0xq.G1o@iat.holonet.net> jwilbur@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur) writes:
> >I've seen it and it seems to work well.  Of course the 3d effects work
> >much better if you are in the sweet spot.  Headphones were used for the
> >demo at the Gravis booth...I was impressed.
> >
> 
> The headphone part I don't get. If you say that it needs a setup
> similar to surround sound where you have the main front speakers,
> 

    Maybe you can check 'alt.3d', there are good discussion over this 
 topic.  But I can assure you that : the 3D effect can be gotten from
 merely headphone, yea, the plain headphone, not the special ones.

    I can be so sure because here I had a project about create 3D effect
 using only 2 speakers.  Nono, the surround didn't get you anything new,
 they just ease the DSP needed in this new tech.  

    A simple description is :  headphone can reproduce ANY info that we
 received when we hear something in somewhere without headphone(okok,
 maybe not ANY, but MOST.)  So we can caculate the phase delay and the
 reflection of the pinna and the decay of the amplitude, then what the
 ear received is the same of before, so it cannot distinguish what is 
 real or not. 

    Anyway, that is real.  If any question, please e-mail.

								Porco

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Room 216, Dorm. 12
EE dep of National Chiao-Tung University
Hsin-Chu, Taiwan, ROC.
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Can't get'em...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:40:10 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <1993Jan04.154536.3745@rose.com> francisco.perez@rose.com (francisco perez) writes:
>
>I've tried "ftp archive.epas.utoronto.ca", and "ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu" and
>I get an "Unknown Host" message.  I've also tried "ftp 128.100.160.36" and
>then I get an "Unreachable Host" message.  I guess I'll just have to make do
>with v1.1 install disks for a bit longer until Gravis does the mailout,
>since I can't afford to download all those files from the Gravis BBS at
>2400 bps.

Sounds like you are not on the Internet at all. Especially since you are
using OLX to write this meaning you are doing this offline from a local
BBS I guess. If this BBS gives you email access to Internet (you are on
the mailing list), you can still use the mailserver. Write an email
to...

	ultrasound-request@dsd.es.com

with the Subject line being the word "help" and the body too I think.
And you'll get back an info message. You can get the files through email
and download it using this route. Don't know how uptodate the mailserver
is though (ie. what software is on there).

>
>By the way, is the 699 player on the Gravis BBS as well?

Not sure but I don't think so. We have all sorts of additional stuff in
the ftp sites (in fact, many megabytes more stuff) than what's in the
BBS cause we mirror what's on the BBS plus all the other things people
contribute from the network.


Thomas.
From: mholmes@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mark Holmes)
Subject: GUS and Wizardry 7
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:47:43 GMT

When I attempt to load Wizardry 7 I get a divide overflow error from
the program.  Has anyone had this problem?  Is your Wiz 7 running fine?

Thanks

Mark

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From: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Problems with Windows and (PAS-16 or Sony Speakers)
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:50:36 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Organization: N.I.S.T
Posting-Front-End: Shinbun -- the OpenLook newsreader




Help!!!

	My wife, bless her heart, got me some fantastic Sony Speakers for my
PAS-16.  They have a built in amp and sound wonderful as long as I'm not in 
windows.  The amp has an automatic shutoff when no signal is received after
a short period of time.  This is a minor nuisance, but one I can live with.
When I bring up windows, the amp lights constantly flicker on both speakers,
and noise comes out of both.  Has anyone seen this before?  It results in me
turning off the amps, (which really limits the amount of decibels).  Is
is a problem with the PAS-16 (sending strange signals to the speaker) or the
speakers themselves?

Thanks in advance,

Rob G.
glenn@osi.ncsl.nist.gov
From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS Pro???
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:30:29 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tut.fi

In <glock.126@chip.cba.ufl.edu> glock@chip.cba.ufl.edu (Joe Granto) writes:

>I have been researching the GUS card, and came across someone's reference to 
>a possible GUS Pro to be released?  Is this true? 

No.

Anssi
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From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SB 16 ASP woes
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:56:53 GMT
Organization: ZOOiD BBS

knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley)) writes:
>In article <86161@ut-emx.uucp> coleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Coleman) writes:
>>
>>You Gravis freaks are going to eat this up.
>>
>
>Lessee, what's the phrase?  Oh yeah:
>
>           "Told ya' so!"
>
>:)
>
>Jim
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Could you, or perhaps someone else here, tell me if the SounBlaster Pro
contains the OPL3 chip set? I was indicated that the new SoundBlaster Pros are
shipping with the OPL3 instead of the OPL2. Any information is appreciated.

Mark K.
E-Mail: kovarski@zooid.guild.org
From: lu-chien-ping@cs.yale.edu (Chien-Ping Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS 16 and B-17 Flying Fortress
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:49:00 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: category.systemsz.cs.yale.edu


Here is yet another problem, and as lots people said, it might be
easily fixed (I hope). I installed Micropose B-17 Flying Fortress,
and choose Soundblaster. When I start the game, there is NO sound
coming out at all. The strange thing is that I used the Soundblaster
part of PAS16 with The Aces of The Pacific ( as you can tell, I am a
flight sim fans), and the sound is perfect. I do not thing the setting
of Soundblaster is anything wrong. Is there any B-17 pilot around having
 any experience with PAS16? A novice pilot is looking for help.

--CP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: turkstra@smaug.cs.hope.edu (Screwtape)
Subject: Qsound on CD.        
Organization: Hope College Dept of CS
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:08:01 GMT

Don't know if anyone cares, but I thought I'd post that Sting's 
album "Soul Cages" features Qsound, and has a little mini write up 
about it inside.  I think I heard (probably here) that Maddonna's
"Immaculate Collection" has it too.  Anyone know of others - I'd 
like to check 'em out.  
I can't believe this semester's books cost me $357.  Simply can't.

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From: worley@a.cs.okstate.edu (WORLEY LAWRENCE JA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS + OPTi 386/40 = Problem?????
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:11:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1993Jan13.021109.18704
Organization: Oklahoma State University

I have been considering purchasing a GUS after listening to one first hand
at the CES last week.  However, I downloaded all of the /digest files from
the utoronto FTP site, and read through many of them.  There seems to be
some problems with OPTi chipsets and the GUS (among other problems).  I have
a new 386-40, with a "psuedo" OPTi chipset.  By that I mean, one of the chips
is an OPTi chip (82c206) and the other two are from BioTeq (82c392BP and 
82c391BP).  I have the impression that the 82c206 chip is some kind of
peripheral controller chip or something to that effect.  Has anyone else
had experience with a motherboard like this, and if so, have you tried a
GUS on it?  My only dilemma is that I am going to order the GUS from
Gravis directly (at a special CES price) and will not be able to return it
I'm afraid if it doesn't work.  

Any help/experiences would be appreciated.

-Jason
From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Anyone plying GODS?
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:07:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1619
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science

I'm stuck just after finishing CITY 1, any hints? I can not seem to unlock the
door in the floor, and get some stuff on a top level just above andd to the right.

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From: mrmarcel@eos.ncsu.edu (Mike Marcelais)
Subject: Re: PKZIP 2.04c  vs.  ARJ/LHA/ZOO  Compression/Speed Results
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:33:39 GMT

In article <C0IE0M.JCr@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, djtooley@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Doug Tooley) writes:
|> 
|> For those interested, here is my posting to comp.compression:
|> 
|> --------------
|> 
|> Results of Compression Testing: PKZIP 2.04c.          Jan 06/92
[...]
|> Archivers:  PKZIP204c PKZIP110 PKZIP193a ARJ230 LHA213 ZOO210
[...]
|> Results:
|>  
|>  TIME    FILENAME        SIZE      COMMAND
[...]
|> My comments:
|>  
|> Well, the new ZIP takes it hands down.
|> 	--- Doug
|>  
|> ...."I haven't lost my mind, I know exactly where I left it."................
|> Doug Tooley             3B Co-Op CS student at U of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
|> djtooley@{descartes|napier|cayley}.uwaterloo.ca            

You should have put in arj 2.39a also.  I think it's compression is improved
over arj 2.30, and it wouldn't need to get much better to beat zip -ex

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From: cssnet@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Postmaster)
Subject: Wiz 7 - Walkthrough avail.?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: National University of Singapore Dept. of Computer Sc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:06:00 GMT

A friend without Internet access is enquiring if a walkthrough is
available for this game i.e. Wizardry VII - Crusaders of the Dark Savant.

Any leads would be appreciated

-Raymond
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games