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From: ness@tc.fluke.COM (Jerry Ness)
Subject: Re: Killing bers with handguns (Was: Re: A random thought)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:38:24 GMT

I agree with Mr. Sorenson. I have been hunting the same area for Mule
deer for over 30 years. I have done an exceptional job of removing
the 'stupid' deer from the gene pool. These deer are soooo... smart now
that I haven't shot a deer for about 6 years now! 
My wife and I think any deer in the freezer is a trophy!
If any body has a good recipe for antlers how 'bout sharing it.
BTW: the wolves are making a come-back in Washington state.
     I saw 2 wolves while elk hunting last year.  The state game
     rules  are very clear about the fact that wolves and grizzly bear
     are both protected species!

Jerry-
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: WANTED: the Buke's RepCon Speech
Summary: I need a copy as well
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:51:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <l9smtiINN4i2@aludra.usc.edu>, sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:
> Hi.
> 
> I remember seeing a copy of the Buchanon's speech to the Republican
> Convention posted here. Did anyone keep a copy? Could someone mail
> it to me? I unfortunately lost my copy.
> 

I didn't know one had been posted, and my newspaper didn't
show up the day they reported on it.  If someone is e-mailing
a copy, can I get one too?  


thanks,

marc colten
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: mfenster@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mark andrew fenster)
Subject: Re: the rapture
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:15:20 GMT

[text of billboards "advertising" Jesus' imminent return and the
coming rapture deleted]

You laugh (and you are right to laugh) at this stuff, but there's
been some stuff written (in both the 1st and 2nd editions of
_Apocalypse Culture_, for example) on the conspiracy theories/
obsessions associated with such biblical prophecy by none
other than that former president of the Screen Actor's Guild,
Ronald Reagan, whose finger may or may not have itchily
handled the Big Button while thinking about Jesus' return.

And the similarities (and connections) between right wing
conspiracy theorists and rapture-ites are pretty striking:
not only is Hal Lindsey (he of _The Late Great Planet Earth_,
umpteen billions sold) a big fan of various right wing
c.t. writers and virulent anit-commies, but a cursory glance at Pat
Robertson's recent best-seller _The New World Order_ displays a 
full working knowledge of right wing Illuminati-/ CFR-/ Rockefeller-
fears that seem to fit nicely with certain ways of reading
the Bible.

Mark Fenster
From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Necronomicon and H.P. Lovecraft
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:26:01 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug27.085508.16312@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:
>I recently checked through some library catalogues, and found, much to
>my amazement that the Necronomicon, by Abdul Alhazred, really exists,
>and that there is a copy in the Uni. of Boston library.
>Previously I thought that the Necronomicon was made up by H.P.
>Lovecraft, author of the Cthulhu Mythos stories.
>Does anyone know:
>	- Are the passages quoted from the Necronomicon (about
>shoggoths, the old ones, et cetera) genuine?
Yes

>	- How much else in Lovecraft's stories is true?
Everything

>	- What were the circumstances of Lovecraft's death?
Very mysterious.

Look, all humor aside.  Just try and _get_ a copy of these books from
the library of your choice. Go ahead.  Those bibliographic entries were
most likely created by bored librarians.  There was a thread about
all this in alt.horror and on rec.arts.books a couple of weeks ago.
If you ask real nice, somebody may have saved that thread and might
consider sending it to you.  If you give them a cookie. :)
-------------------
Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

"He took personality tests
 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.visitors,alt.politics.guns
From: gross@eric10.rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross)
Subject: Re: The Necronomicon and H.P. Lovecraft
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:28:03 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Aug27.085508.16312@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:
>I recently checked through some library catalogues, and found, much to
>my amazement that the Necronomicon, by Abdul Alhazred, really exists,
>and that there is a copy in the Uni. of Boston library.
>Previously I thought that the Necronomicon was made up by H.P.
>Lovecraft, author of the Cthulhu Mythos stories.
>Does anyone know:
>	- Are the passages quoted from the Necronomicon (about
>shoggoths, the old ones, et cetera) genuine?
>	- How much else in Lovecraft's stories is true?
>	- What were the circumstances of Lovecraft's death?
>

The Necronomicon is a fantasy and a fake.  It was published sometime
within the past two decades to appeal to a new audience of Lovecraft
fans.  Prior to Howard's invention of the book for his stories, there
was never such a book.

Gene

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: juola@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (Patrick Juola)
Subject: Re: why the moon/sun looks bigger -new expl
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:24:49 GMT

In article <1cBDqB4w165w@mantis.co.uk> tony@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) writes:
>
>For me, and millions of pianists, it goes
>
>  1st finger    2nd finger    3rd finger    4th finger    5th finger
>
>Sinple. It's unfortunate that some people call them Thumb/1st/2nd/3rd/4th.

I don't know -- for me and millions of violinists/violists, we wonder why
people can't tell the thumb and fingers are functionally distinct....

8-)
		- kitten
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth)
Subject: Re: Migratory habits of Mediterranean eels
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 03:51:25 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep2.224211.3640@panix.com> carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:
>In <2SEP199211035745@zeus.tamu.edu> enw2049@zeus.tamu.edu (WALKE, ERIK N) writes:
>>       I'm just posting off the top of my head (normally I try to 
>>       refrain from it ;-> ), but this story rings a bell, vaguely.
>>       Are there lampreys or some other fresh-water eel/fish that
>>       migrate from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes?
>  Lampreys are non-migratory.  Also, they aren't eels - heck, they aren't even
>FISH.

I saw on PBS 2-1/2 weeks ago a documentary on the Lamprey.  They are fish
and they do migrate from the Gulf of Mexico into various rivers and streams
in New England.  A marine biologist from a Boston college (don't remember
names, since I didn't know there was going to be a test) had said this, and
the tapes did show lapreys in some rivers.

Jerry

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: reed@owlnet.rice.edu (Kevin Niles Reed)
Subject: Re: Igniting the Atmosphere
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:52:47 GMT


I can't quite remember the source, I wan't to attribute it to
Isaac Asimov, but don't quote me on that (unless you forget my name :-))
They purposed a theory that the reason we don't see any signs of intelligent
life other than our own, is becuase there is some inevitable scientific experiement
that any intelligent species will attempt as they begin space travel, that
will cause the destruction of their civilization.  Stories like the possiblity
of igniting the atmosphere always bring that thought back....
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Subject: Re: Microwaving yourself
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:05:18 GMT

Speaking of microwaving your self, an electronics teacher told me this one.
Seems he use to work for GTE up in Canada at one of the Early Warning Radar
sites. These sites had huge radar dishes for tracking incomming Soviet ICBMs.
Well, it seems every Friday night they would get stange readings on their
scopes. This went on for weeks before they found the cause.
   Get this, several of the young Air Force guys that worked there thought
that by standing in the waveguide for a few moments that they could make
themselves temporarily sterile. That way when they went out on the town
that night they would not get anybody in trouble. 
    Belive it or not!

					DannyZ


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: why the moon/sun looks bigger -new expl
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:52:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.143529.23987@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>In article <conibear.714151608@cunews>, conibear@sol.carleton.ca (Dave
>Conibear) writes:
>|> For those bemoaning the lack of photos comparing the "moon at horizon"
>|> with the "moon in sky":
>|> 
>|> Try getting into the habit of blocking out the moon with your thumb
>|> (better yet, your pinky) held at arm's length.  When you find that the
>|> "moon at horizon" is no harder to cover up, you get a whole new class
>|> of hypotheses:
>
>This is all very well, but what in the world is a "pinky" in this context?
>
>Inquiring (European) minds want to know!

The "pinky" is the smallest finger. What does it mean on your side of the pond?


--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff)
Subject: Re: Sparking Lifesavers in the DarK
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:36:52 GMT

IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil) writes:
: In article <1992Aug29.001512.16526@u.washington.edu>
: wolgamot@milton.u.washington.edu (Greg Wolgamot) writes:
: >I was on a tour through some caverns in Montana, and the tour quide,
: >deep within the cave, turned off the lights and popped a peppermint
: >Lifesaver in her mouth.  She then chewed it with her mouth open,
: >and we all saw sparks.  Is this do to breaking of chemical bonds,
: It's called "triboluminesence" (yes, that's a word and it's in almost
: any quality dictionary)...it means "luminesence via friction".

'Scientific American' devoted 'The Amateur Scientist' column to
triboluminesence about 4 or 5 years back (I think). It mentioned LifeSavers
and also apparently a piece of stickytape stuck to glass, then pulled off
at an acute angle backwards. It claimed you could see sparks right at the
point the tape was peeling off the glass. (I haven't tried this)

Steven Malikoff.
steven@syacus.acus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: hansen@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: 95% of the brain
Organization: Lockheed Palo Alto Research Labs
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:18:07 GMT

> Over the years, from time to time I come across the "fact" that one
> only uses about 5% of one's brain; or the brain's potential. The 

I think I read that these measurements were flawed, being based on 
measurements of the outer brain tissue. Also these were made a LONG 
time ago - which as the SA article points out - and so techniques 
were pooorly refined. 

> these ideas. One also must note the evidence of rare cases where,
> for whatever reason, up to 95% of a person's brain is destroyed
> by a birth defect or accident and yet the person continues to
> function normally.

Yes, but it takes years of rehabilitation, and from what I understand 
they do not always recover all of their abilities. It mainly depends 
upon how many brain cells were destroyed vs damaged. Nature designed 
us to recover the most important asset we have (and so rarely use!)

The catch to all this is that I am an optical engineer! (If Perot can
run for president, I can do neurosurgery) :-)

				Glenn Hansen
and cookie says:
 Sing long and hard through a communal love.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: halogen bulbs (was Re: Microwaved light bulb)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:48:12 GMT

I wouldn't have one in the house.  Halogen bulbs may be technically sweet,
but I think they're a step in the wrong direction.

Not only does the filament run hotter, but also as a result the whole bulb
does.  With an ordinary incandescent bulb, it is rather hard to start a fire
or burn oneself badly; with a halogen bulb, one needs to be rather careful --
almost as if one had gone back to kerosene.  Fluorescent bulbs are cooler
*and* more efficient.  They are a step in the direction of fireflies, which
we may eventually emulate when we get really smart.
From: grimjack@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Basel)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: ice cubes and soda pop
Keywords: ice soda pop liquid cooling
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:30:05 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug25.175455.15104@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colossal@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (colossal Microscope) writes:
>
>does soda pop (originally "warm" in a can) stay cooler/colder
>if
>  a.) one puts ice in the glass first
>      and then puts the soda pop in the glass
>
>  b.) one puts the soda pop in the glass first
>      and then put the ice cubes in
>
>for some reason
>i heard that b was the answer
>
>that the pop will stay cooler longer
>if the ice cubes go in after the pop (or other beverage)
>
Well, actually the answer depends on how much soda pop you want; if you 
put the ice in first and then the warm pop - you will have foam all over 
the counter (it will stay cooler longer because there is less of it?).

After you fill the glass with warm soda, slowly lower the cube in - you 
will have more soda so the ice cube will melt quicker and the overall 
temp will be higher.

Rodger Coghlan

OBbartender's trick - put the ice in the glass first, then the alcohol, then
the soda (the alcohol will 'wet' the ice to prevent foaming and it will look
like you used more alcohol than you really did.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: why the moon/sun looks bigger -new expl
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:11:06 GMT

In article <1cBDqB4w165w@mantis.co.uk>
tony@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard) writes:
 
>IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil) writes:
>
>> So you should explain the spectrum of fingers:
>>
>> thumb    index or fore finger   middle finger   ring finger     pinky
>
>For me, and millions of pianists, it goes
>  1st finger    2nd finger    3rd finger    4th finger    5th finger
>
>Sinple. It's unfortunate that some people call them Thumb/1st/2nd/3rd/4th.
 
But I was merely explaining them in the context of the question...knowing
how to answer the question in the manner it was posed is important.  Much
like reading music and knowing how the composer intended it to be played.
 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,sci.chem
From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: Sparking grapes
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:33:00 GMT

pk03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Karol) writes:

>Why not stop posting so many guesses on why split grapes sparkle in a
>microwave and do some experiments?  Let's see some science.

>PJK

This has nothing to do with grapes, but I once saw an experiment with
a pickle and 110 volts AC.  A probe was inserted into each end of the
pickle and the voltage applied.  This caused the pickle to glow.  It
was pretty impressive to watch, but the burned pickle sure stunk.

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: wrb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wallace.r.blackburn)
Subject: Conservation of Energy?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:39:11 GMT
Keywords: energy

Oh net ones, I have a couple of questions for your collective wisdom.

The first has to do with conservation of energy.  Energy can't be created
or destroyed, just converted.  Right?  Let's say a bullet enters a body
(sorry for the disgusting example).  One way it kills is by dumping energy
into the body.  Bullets that mushroom and lose more of their energy in the
body are deadlier than those that zip on through intact (disregarding extra
tissue damage caused by the bigger bullet).  So, what happens to the
bullets kinetic energy as it is dumped into the body?  What other kind of
energy is it converted to?  Is it somehow "used" - but wouldn't that be
destruction of the energy?  I'm confused.  The more I think about it, there
a number of examples (car hitting a wall, etc.), so this must be pretty
basic, I'm just missing something (my first-year physics training most
likely).

Second question:  A method for reducing injuries from falls in martial arts
involves hitting the ground as hard as possible just before impact.  Yes,
the hand(s) and arm(s) may be hurt, but presumably this is better than the
internal damage from the fall.  We are talking about being thrown here, not
just a trip.  So the possibility of serious injury from the fall is real.
Does this sound plausible?  I don't understand how this reduces the kinetic
energy and force of impact.  Is the idea to slow down or stop the fall
momentarily so that acceleration due to gravity starts over from 1" or so?

Again though, what happens to that kinetic energy upon impact in either
case?.  It seems the body absorbs it and is thereby damaged - but where 
does it go?


			Thanks,

			Wally Blackburn AA8DX
			wrb@ccsitn.att.com
From: jt@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Sebastian Theriault)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: Sparking Lifesavers in the DarK
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:19:34 GMT
Reply-To: jt@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Sebastian Theriault)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <1992Aug31.233652.21444@syacus.acus.oz.au> steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff) writes:
>'Scientific American' devoted 'The Amateur Scientist' column to
>triboluminesence about 4 or 5 years back (I think). It mentioned LifeSavers
>and also apparently a piece of stickytape stuck to glass, then pulled off
>at an acute angle backwards. It claimed you could see sparks right at the
>point the tape was peeling off the glass. (I haven't tried this)

Of course, to obtain all the scientific facts on this, one should
watch an old episode of Cheers where Carla demonstrates the effect,
Clif (Cliff?) attempts to explain it, and Dr. Crane really explains it.

--
Jean-Sebastien Theriault               "Women: can't live with them,
jt@dcs.ed.ac.uk                         pass me the beer nuts."  -Norm
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Subject: Re: The Other 95% of the Brain
Reply-To: bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:51:40 GMT


Barry Shell posts;

> Over the years, from time to time I come across the "fact" that one
>only uses about 5% of one's brain; or the brain's potential. The 
>idea is that if the brain was used to its full potential, telepathy,
>telekinesis, out-of-body experiences, etc would be possible, and 
>who knows what else.  ....

Let me answer this by analogy.  Instead of looking at the brain, lets
talk about something that most of you know more about, your computer!
Most people never use more than a small percentage of their computer's
capability (RAM, ROM, processing throughput, etc.)  If your computer was
used to its full potential, writing the great American novel, proving
Fermat's last theorum, etc. would be possible, and who knows whaqt else!

If you want a FACT that you can throw out in casual conversations, use
this; your brain is like a computer in that it has can only do one thing
(or at best a very few) things at a time.

Ed 


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: why the moon/sun looks bigger -new expl
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:13:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.185251.16483@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson) writes:
 
>>This is all very well, but what in the world is a "pinky" in this context?
>>Inquiring (European) minds want to know!
>The "pinky" is the smallest finger. What does it mean on your side of the pond?
So you should explain the spectrum of fingers:
 
thumb    index or fore finger   middle finger   ring finger     pinky
 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Subject: Re: The Other 95% of the Brain
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:51:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.170622.15452@cs.sfu.ca>, shell@cs.sfu.ca (Barry Shell) writes:


At last. something that really belongs in this newsgroup.

>What I would like to know is this: In neuroscience, (as I am
>now discovering in the wideranging review published in this month's
>Scientific American magazine (Sept 92)), there is no mention of
>the missing 95%. In fact, if anything, experimental results and 
>observations seem to indicate that thought and mind are so 
>complex, they may require all 100% of the grey matter to function.
>Why is the "other 95%" idea not mentioned in the Scientific
>American articles?

Because the "other 95%" idea is a piece of folklore, nothing more, stemming
from a widespread misinterpretation of the fact that at one time we could only
assign specific functions to a small percentage of the locations of the brain.  
Parts of the brain could be damaged with no obvious changes in the victim's
behavior or abilities.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
From: wolgamot@milton.u.washington.edu (Greg Wolgamot)
Subject: Re:Sparking Lifesavers in the DarK
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:15:12 GMT

I was on a tour through some caverns in Montana, and the tour quide,
deep within the cave, turned off the lights and popped a peppermint
Lifesaver in her mouth.  She then chewed it with her mouth open,
and we all saw sparks.  Is this do to breaking of chemical bonds,
as she explained, or do to friction between the chunks of lifesaver
and her teeth?

Help me understand this... I'm in the dark!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science