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From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Subject: Re: Looking for unusual 486 Notebook / portable
Keywords: 486 portable,Modgraph
Reply-To: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:34:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.010212.9657@pages.com> bruce@pages.com (Bruce Henderson)  
writes:
<edited>
| 
| I need to find a portable intel based machine with the following features
| 
| 486/25 DX or better CPU
| 8-32 MB Memory (or better)
| At least a 200 MB Hard disk
| (and now the tough one)
| 
| a screen resolution of at least 1024x768.  
| 
| I realize that this will be hard to find and rather pricey.  
| 

If price is really no object, call Modgraph at (800)327-9962.  They will  
assemble a portable to any specs you like. 
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From: mrr@scss3.cl.msu.edu (Mark Riordan)
Subject: Re: Kudos to NeXT for very fast service.
Organization: Michigan State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:46:41 GMT

gil@asterix.lbl.gov (Gil Rivlis) writes:
: 
: Our CPU died one morning. The same day NeXT shiped us a new
: motherboard and the next day asterix was alive again. Great service
: from NeXT.

Likewise, I called NeXT about my dim November 1990-vintage monitor
and they shipped a replacement right away.  I am happily using it
right now.  Good service.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: SCSI problems
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 07:49:55 GMT

In <2A86A76F.25241@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
| This system has two SCSI hard disks, a Quantum 105 MByte internal one  
| configured as target number 1 and a Micropolis 1.2 GByte external one  
| configured as target number 6.
| 
| Scsiinquire reports:
| -t 1 -l 0 "QUANTUM /LP105S 910109405/2.8 /"  typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=1
| -t 6 -l 0 "MICROP  /1598-15MD1052405/AS24/"  typ=0 dev=0 ans=1 fmt=1
| 
...
| Each time this happens the following message appears on the console:
| 
| sd1 (6,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0

More than likely a SCSI cable or termination problem, although
it is conceivable it is a firmware bug.
--
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
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From: matt@karazm.math.uh.edu (Matt Emerson)
Subject: ibm 320Mb disk -- how to make it spin up?
Organization: UH Dept of Math
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:36:36 GMT

I ran inquire from the scsitools package and got this:

-t 0 -l 0 "MAXTOR  /XT-8760SH       /C2D /"  typ=0 dev=0 ans=1 fmt=1
-t 6 -l 0 "IBM     /0661371         /B   /"  typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2

The IBM disk never spins up.  Presumably, there is some SCSI command I can
send the little sucker to get it going.  The drive does not seem to have any
jumpers on it other than for setting the SCSI id.

Can anyone offer any advice?
-matt

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matt@karazm.math.uh.edu
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From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: boot from CD-ROM?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:24:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.085547.996@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
marcu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Albert Ullman) writes:
> Supposedly newer versions of the boot rom have other enhancements like
> selective support for parity-based memory. 

I'm not sure what you mean by "selective support for parity-based memory". 

> Also, I was of the impression
> that you can't boot from the floppy either but must use the floppy to
> upgrade the hard disk so that it can then read the CD.

You have to insert the floppy and the CD-ROM, then "bfd" at the ROM  
monitor prompt. It boots mach from the floppy, and then continues from the  
CD-ROM. You can then do a BuildDisk, either with or without initializing  
the disk first.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM - 3 Month wait??
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:08:07 GMT

Just recently heard that the NeXT CD-ROM drives are backed up about
8-9 weeks.  I'm curious how fast folks out there are getting there
drives.  If I've got to wait 3 months for the drive, I wonder how long
it's going to be before I would get the 3.0 CD, and if I'd be getting
the CD before the CD drive.  What good would that be?

-k
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From: jcelam@confused (James Clifton Elam)
Subject: Modem cabling and config help
Keywords: Microcom modem, NeXT slab
Organization: Encompass
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:17:16 GMT

I have to make a cable (no, I don't have access to the FAQ's but I do have
NeXTMail....) for a Microcom modem and somehow get all those quadrazillion
soft-switch settings correct.

Help!

--
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(919) 380-6522 (v,w)                    | I want NeXT/Intel too!
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From: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Subject: Re: ScanJet IIc cabling
Reply-To: stabl@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:32:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.140058.8478@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
teb@dendron.forestry.umn.edu (Thomas E. Burk) writes:
> Has anyone used this scanner with a NeXT? Good results? Where does one get  
the  
> proper SCSI cable for connection?

Yes, we have attached such a scanner to one of our NeXTstations. It works  
without any problems. We bought a standard SCSI-II with Micro-D-Sub to  
SCSI-Centronics (50 poles) cable.

Regards
 Robert Stabl.
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From: lee@tochtli.dvr.co.us (Lee Ward)
Subject: Re: Flopticals for NeXT machines?
Reply-To: lee@tochtli.dvr.co.us (Lee Ward)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:42:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.182310.285@afit.af.mil> ekouba@blackbook.afit.af.mil  
(Eric T. Kouba) writes:
> I've seen recent ads for floptical drives for other computers.
> Will these require any special widgets or procedures to work
> with a NeXT station?

We are using the Tahiti II's on an '040 cube and an '040 (turbo) NextStation.
One is configured as non-removable media. The other, running experimental  
software to export via NFS, is configured as removable media.

The only problems we've seen are that the SCSI driver ALWAYS does many, many  
retries as the floptical spins up. Sometimes, the bus locks up until a SCSI  
timeout occurs (10-20 seconds, it's rare). Other than that, they've performed  
well for us.
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From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:50:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.224145.8764@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
   In article <OTTO.92Aug17223751@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.  
   Makela) writes:
   > Are 72-bit wide SIMMs somehow pin-coded for speed ?

   There aren't any 72-bit wide SIMMs that I know of. NeXTs use 72 pin SIMMs  
   that are 32 bits wide. They indicate their "safe" speed by means of  
   jumpers that connect (or don't connect) particular pins.

I of course meant 72-pin SIMMs.  A small mindo (a typo of the mind).
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From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: Re: Looking for unusual 486 Notebook / portable
Reply-To: shawn@monitor.com
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:31:12 GMT

Walter C. Daugherity writes
>In article <1992Jul28.010212.9657@pages.com> bruce@pages.com (Bruce  
Henderson)  
>writes:
><edited>
>| 
>| I need to find a portable intel based machine with the following  
features
>| 
>| 486/25 DX or better CPU
>| 8-32 MB Memory (or better)
>| At least a 200 MB Hard disk
>| (and now the tough one)
>| 
>| a screen resolution of at least 1024x768.  
>| 
>| I realize that this will be hard to find and rather pricey.  
>| 
>
>If price is really no object, call Modgraph at (800)327-9962.  They will  
>assemble a portable to any specs you like. 

NOTE:  Modgraph makes old-compaq-like luggables.  They can do 1024x768  
non-interlaced, otherwise its 760xsomething.  They use Sony Trinitron 8.5"  
monitors.  They can do LocalBus, ISA, etc. and can do up to 32MB at  
500+MB.  486/334 and 486/50 (NOT clock doubler) are standard fare.  Since  
it's a luggable, they're just using baby PC motherboards, so anything a  
desktop Intel box can do, you can expect from them.  They're in  
Burlington, MA.

BRUCE:  can you summarize to the net if you have any good info?

Shawn Broderick
shawn@monitor.com
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From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:37:51 GMT

In article <4577@rosie.NeXT.COM> John_Graves@next.com (John Graves) writes:
   The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number of  
   processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be tailored
   to the speed of the memory installed.  70 ns memory is just enough faster
   than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with fewer clock
   cycles.  This improves memory system performance.

Are 72-bit wide SIMMs somehow pin-coded for speed ?  Or how does the
memory system know the "safe" speed, or do you just have to set it
manually by what you know of the SIMMs ?
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From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with SCSI Streamer
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:10:21 GMT
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

In article <1992Aug14.132203.6108@cetia.fr> rouand@cetia.fr (J-Michel Rouand) writes:
>Aug 14 11:11:13 next mach: ARCHIVE VIPER 150
>But, when I try :
>    tar tvf /dev/rst0
>or  tar cvf /dev/rst0 .
>
>there is an error: Tape read error (or tape write error).

I have the same drive and had the same problem.  I had to write a 3-line
C program to open /dev/rst0, ioctl it to switch it to character mode (??
I can't quite remember, and my NeXT is at home), and then exit.  After
that, tar works just fine.

I don't see why the SCSI driver needed to be told this, but what the hell...


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From: eric%erix@uunet.uu.net (Eric Cafritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: boot from CD-ROM?
Keywords: cd boot
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:12:31 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Erix Remote

jk8l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan W. Kimball) writes:

> Perhaps this has already been answered, but is it possible to boot from
> CD-ROM under 3.0?  I've heard a little bit both ways.  When I went to
> the computer store here (where I would buy the CD-ROM), they said to ask
> someone from NeXT.  Anyway, I'm considering that as an option to a
> bigger hard drive--leave all the system stuff on CD, and use the
> internal hard drive as swap and local storage.  Can it be done?
> Thanks.
> 
> Jon Kimball
> kimball+@cmu.edu


This is about the twentieth time someone has asked this question in
the last ten days.  Can't anyone answer it?

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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Video
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:19:50 GMT

In article <mendez.92Aug131126@uranus.isr.recruit.co.jp>  
mendez@isr.recruit.co.jp writes:
> We are vey interested in hearing about video compression on the next.   We  
are currently using the next
> dimension hardware to display and capture.     However,  have not been able  
to get good performance on
> compression.
> Is anyone out there who has succeded in getting good performance when  
compressing video using
> software alone?

In my case, the answer is `no'

Jim
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From: spagiola@amy5.stanford.edu (Stefano P. Pagiola)
Subject: Re: NeXT pricing, US vs. Europe: "A offer you cannot refuse"
Reply-To: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:38:55 GMT

Scott A. McIntyre writes
> I just came back from Honeymoon in the USA and Canada and am very
> disheartened by the difference in prices between NeXT US and NeXT
> Europe/UK.

The US/Europe rpice differences are atrocious, but NeXT is no worse  
on this than any other company.  try comparing mac prices, or even  
prices for DOS clones.  Or, for that matter, on any electronic  
equipment.
The following is true: if you are European, you can come to the US,  
take a two-week vacation, buy (say) a NeXT, bring it back to Europe,  
_pay_ the entry fee, and still have saved money overall over buying  
the thing in Europe.  

--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:05:47 GMT

dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:

>In article <1992Aug13.195438.26752@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>>NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo
>>(68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo
>>(68040-33MHz), newer NeXTstations (68040-25MHz), and
>>newer NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
>>
>>These systems have only 4 SIMM slots, but they can take
>>double-sided SIMMs.  SIMMs must be installed in groups of
>>two in these machines.
>>
>>Use 72-pin 4, 8, 16, or 32 MB SIMMs with 100 ns minimum
>>access time. For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs.

>    Yes, that's what I read.... but it is extremely obscure.  It doesn't
>    say WHY using faster SIMMs results in faster performance, it doesn't
>    say where the break point is... you can't even GET 100ns SIMMs
>    anymore!!  They START at 80ns (100ns cost the same or more then 80ns).
>    The NeXT is the only machine I've ever heard of that has a programmable
>    waitstate for it's dynamic ram access.  It really makes no sense to
>    take an already slow machine and slow it down further...

Nathan didn't include a line right above that information in the FAQ
that tells you to look in NeXTAnswers hardware.620, which is a good
source for this information.  You should look there to see a
definitive answer.
Well you can get 100ns SIMMs if you're buying them from someone
used.  The information is still important.
I have used many PCs that have a switch on the back that allows you
to go from one wait state to zero depending on the speed of the RAM
you install.  I think I have seen PC's that do this automatically,
as well.  Why isn't it smart?  The machine is just trying to be
flexible.  You would rather that it just booted up and said "Buy
faster memory" and just sat there? (ie wouldn't let you boot up)? 
Or worse - it went ahead and used the slower memory in it without
inserting a wait state... bits dropping into oblivion...
-- 
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From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:41:45 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Aug17223751@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.  
Makela) writes:
> Are 72-bit wide SIMMs somehow pin-coded for speed ?  Or how does the
> memory system know the "safe" speed, or do you just have to set it
> manually by what you know of the SIMMs ?

There aren't any 72-bit wide SIMMs that I know of. NeXTs use 72 pin SIMMs  
that are 32 bits wide. They indicate their "safe" speed by means of  
jumpers that connect (or don't connect) particular pins.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: boot from CD-ROM?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:26:17 GMT

Marc Albert Ullman writes
> In article <1992Aug20.161155.6930@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
> >If your ROM version is 3.0 or higher (generally Turbo or  
later hardware),  
> >you can boot directly from CD-ROM. If your ROM version  
is earlier than  
> >3.0, you can boot indirectly from CD-ROM by means of a  
"kick-start"  
> >floppy.
> 
> Thus I repeat my question:  Will NeXT make revised boot  
ROMs available to
> people with earlier (pre ROM ver 3.0) boot ROMs?
> 

Why bother.  How often do you need to boot off a CD.
(Of couse if you don't have a floppy drive it could be a  
problem...)
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From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: sanity check
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:49:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.195517.19912@investor.pgh.pa.us>  
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
> In article <1992Aug9.173325.11381@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling) writes:
> 
> >Simply changing the CPU  
> >for a faster one will assuredly not work. But something vaguely  
> >similar might.
> >
> Like changing the system clock crystal too?

That wouldn't be enough.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Subject: Toshiba MK-438FB 3.5" 877 Meg Drive
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:34:23 GMT

Tech Data has these at $1400 for quantity 1, which seems like a pretty good  
deal.  Has anyone installed one in a Station?

Rolfe
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From: eric@erix.uucp (Eric Cafritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bootable 3 1/2" Optical Disk
Keywords: optical disks
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:42:43 EDT
Distribution: World
Organization: erix

Has anyone succeeded in making a 3 1/2" 128mb optical
disk bootable for a NeXT under v.2.1?  If so, could
you send me instructions by e-mail?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to NextTurbo (memory)
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:55:15 GMT

In article <dillon.0lj8@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US  
(Matthew Dillon) writes:
> >NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo
> >(68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo
> >(68040-33MHz), newer NeXTstations (68040-25MHz), and
> >newer NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
> >
> >These systems have only 4 SIMM slots, but they can take
> >double-sided SIMMs.  SIMMs must be installed in groups of
> >two in these machines.
> >
> >Use 72-pin 4, 8, 16, or 32 MB SIMMs with 100 ns minimum
> >access time. For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs.
 
> Yes, that's what I read.... but it is extremely obscure. 
> It doesn't say WHY using faster SIMMs results in faster
> performance, it doesn't say where the break point is...
> you can't even GET 100ns SIMMs anymore!!  They START at
> 80ns (100ns cost the same or more then 80ns). The NeXT is
> the only machine I've ever heard of that has a
> programmable waitstate for it's dynamic ram access.

In case you missed the followup from John Graves at
NeXT Hardware Engineering:

	The memory system has programmable memory timing such
	that the number of   processor clocks needed to access a
	given amount of data can be tailored to the   speed of the
	memory installed.  70 ns memory is just enough faster than
	80 ns   memory to allow the cpu to access the data with fewer
	clock cycles.  This   improves memory system performance.

	"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many
	parameters other than just   RAS access time.  The faster
	CAS access time in particular allows the memory   system to
	respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus transfers. 

I'll add the above to the FAQ.

> It really makes no sense to take an already slow machine
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IYHO, of course, which is not shared by me, and has no place
in this fact-based (only) group.  Take it to csn.advocacy
so the folks there can have a good laugh. 

--
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Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Multiscan Monitors
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:48:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug5.211917.17879@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko  
266-0900) writes:
> What are the scan rates (vertical and horizontal) are required for a
> 3rd party monitor to work with a color station or dimension?  Is any
> one else doing this?  With what brands of monitors?
> 
> tim

NeXT-FAQ.peripherals:  Questions about peripherals for the NeXT

*** Subject: P8. What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?

The important specs for the color monitor are:

	Horz Scan Rate:		61 KHz
	Vertical Scan Rate:	68 Hz
	Resolution:		1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832)
	NON-INTERLACED

Displays may require alignment to adjust for the scan
rate of NeXT machines.

Sony GDM-1601 were demonstrated with the NeXT color
products. NeXT is not shipping these monitors.  Sony no
longer makes them, however there is a replacement
GDM-1606. 

The Nanao T560i 17" color display has been used with NeXTstation
Color machines, and seems to work well.

Some larger NEC displays have also worked.


*** Subject: P9. Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party  
color monitors? 

From NeXT: part number S4025.

NuData in New Jersey carries 13W3 female to 4 BNC male connectors.
The price is about $100.

	NuData
	Voice: 908-842-5757



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Editor:
Nathan Janette nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu

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Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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