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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Critical mass getting bigger? - was re: AmigaWorld Lies about Links
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:12:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.005152.10050@tronsbox.xei.com> bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes:
>>convert, lists above.)  Amiga games are targets more towards action games
>>and puzzle games, like lemmings.  I've seen a few games that were Amiga first
>
>Well, the PC version of Lemmings looked just as good and was
>hard-drive installable.  The SuperNintendo version looked better.

Well, IMO, the Amiga version did look and sound better.  The Amiga
version looked more crisp, and the PC plays the music (sometimes
screwing up) thru my Soundblaster and the FX through the PC speaker.  Bad

> *         Bill Cavanaugh       bleys@tronsbox.xei.com          *

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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: number of infinite loops
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:13:25 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Sep10.120126.2945@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>In article <65493@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>>>Never been any such thing as an infinite loop. Never has been, never will be.
>>>On the contrary:  at any given moment, there are an infinite number
>>>of infinite loops being executed.
>>>
>>>I dare you to prove me wrong.  Nyaaahh.
>
>Okay...
>
>< proof deleted >
>
>Go on Skip, prove my assumptions wrong! :)

Are you kidding?  I hate math and statistics!  Just looking at your proof
made me shudder and I fear that my head would explode if I tried to prove
you wrong.  :-)

>>TomK@cup.portal.com
>>Tom Krotchko

>Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
>  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 

Skip Sauls
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From: dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan)
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:38:07 GMT

In article <3738@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
|  I really think that IDE is a non-issue among average users.  The talk in a 
|local dealer confirms this as well, all people care about is being able to 
|buy cheap hard disks, they don't appreicate or care what SCSI does for them 
|technically, only economically since it does the one thing that they do care 
|about, store data.
|
	I'd say you're talking to a bunch of short-sighted people.

	Does anyone out there REALLY think I'm going to buy a machine with a
120-meg HD and then try to back that beast up onto >150< floppy disks?
Alright, I probably won't have 120 megs of data.  Make it a hundred disks.

	Sorry, I have a life.

	I can see IDE on something like the 600, but if I'm spending $3000+ for
the computer, it's an insult.  I'm pretty pleased with what I've heard of
the 4000 so far (though I'll reserve judgement until I see one at the local
dealers), but I calls 'em as I sees 'em, and this IDE thing is a real boner.


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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:24:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.221655.9853@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>
>Actually, it is 8 bits per pixel, but the 256 base colors can held
>and modified, hence the name.

Not quite.  HAM uses 2 bits to select either a new base or a modification or
R, G, or B.  So, with 8 bit HAM, you only get 64 base colours, and only 6 bits
of RGB can be specified (in one hit).

 This allows for the simulation of
>18 bit color without actually increasing the amount of storage
>required.

Correct.  18=3x6.  If the new HAM used 10 bits, we could have 256 base colours
and a 24-bit palette.

>With the new SuperHAM available at resolutions
>up to 1280 horizontally, I expect the images to be nothing short
>of spectacular.

Once we have the software to drive it.  Supposedly, TAD already does, in it's
current release.  Anyone want to write a PD alternative?  We'll need new GIF
and JPEG viewers, and IFF viewers too.

>Just a few more days...

These machines, or at least AA, had better appear after all this build-up!


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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:30:11 EDT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!

In article <R8ysqB1w165w@bugend.edvina.se>, ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan
Vilcans) says:

>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>> personally I love 'cheesy Euro-synth'!!  :)

>Why call it "Euro-synth"? Why do people say "Euro-demos"?
>Is it perhaps because americans aren't creative (or competent) enough
>to make demos and music?

Yes. :-)

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From: tron1@tronsbox.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson)
Subject: Re: Way to go Commodore! Yeah...right.
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:29:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.153710.20705@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>	Why would they bother?  The only Amiga that has the AGA chipset
>  is the A4000.  The Amiga that is truly going to sell well, the A600, still
>  only has the ECS.  Where the heck is Commodores affordable AGA chipset
>  machines??  Do they call the A4000 at over $3000 without a monitor 
>  affordable?
>
>							G.Greene

	What C= needs to do here is to remake the A600 and A3000
machines with the AA chips and KEEP THE PRICING THE SAME. I know this
would be difficult/impossible but it is still the only thing that
would bust the Amiga market wide open.

	Without it - you have another attack of the C128 syndrome, and
the Amiga market is simply not big enough to handle the fragmentation.

	Perhapse the old designes can take a software compatible but
slower (I am no board tech type for all you bandwith calculation types
:-) - sort of a AASX (heh).



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From: jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: RE: New Product Opinions
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:26:16 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

 
On 4Sep1992 barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
 
>In article <1992Sep4> kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack) writes:
 
>>4) How about giving the IBM compatable slots a break. If I wanted an IBM,
>>I'd go buy one. I'm not saying that we should dump all the slots, but
>>people have been saying that there are gonna be 7 or 8 PC slots in the
>>A4000. I don't think most PC's come with that many slots!! 
>
>   The IBM slots don't cost more than a few dollars to install.  As long as
>Zorro II or III slots are being provided, leaving out the IBM slots would
>mean unnused space in front of the Zorro slots, and filling that space with
>an IBM slot costs almost nothing.  (The only exception to this is the
>A3000-style Zorro slot in line with the video slot)
 
These IBM slots cost more than many people seem to realize.  Take four slot
connectors  with,  say,  100 pins each.  That's 400 solder connections that
have  to be tested for continuity.  The slot connectors themselves actually
cost  more than chips that might take up the same space.  They're expensive
"components",  so  to  speak.   Then  there's  the  logic  chips  needed to
interface  these  slots to the rest of the system.  Then consider the board
realestate.   The  mother  board  has  to be larger to accomadate the slots
which means the case has to be larger to accomadate the mother board.  Then
the  power  supply has to be larger or at least stronger to accomadate what
ever  might plug into the slots.  Adding slots costs a lot when it comes to
manufacturing.   I'd  like  to  see  two  A4000  versions, one with and one
without  IBM slots.  I bet most Amiga (and would be Amiga) users would much
rather  buy  a  stream-lined  A4000 (A2200 or what ever) without IBM slots,
that they won't use anyway, then to pay even 10% more for the slots.
 
If  there  had  been a cheaper A3000 without IBM slots I'd have bought that
instead  of  the  current  A3000.  If I wasn't doing a little programming I
wouldn't  have  any  use for IBM compat.  As it is I probably won't use the
IBM  slots  until there's a 386 BridgeBoard and full VGA emulation (AA Chip
Set?)  right  on my 1950 monitor for $500 or less.  Anything less then that
and  I'll  just settle for cheapo software emulation with CGA.  (PC-Task is
pretty good, an 040 would make it even better :):) )  Just my 2 cents.
 
 Jay Phillips Tampa FL
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: New machines from Gateway (more flame bait....)
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:13:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Aighhh

Last night one of my roomate showed me an article about a new machine
from Gateway:

66Mhz 486 DX2
VESA localbus slot
ATI Graphics Ultra pro in the localbus slot
300MB Maxtor HD
2 HD floppys
4MB ram
15" Crystal Scan monitor
Keyboard...etc..

for $2850.00

This is the type of machine the new A4000 will compete with. I think
the A4000, from what I've read on the net holds up pretty well. It has a 
slower CPU and lower resolutions but I feel the OS makes up for this.
Add some EISA slots to the Gateway and it would be even more comprable, but
alas it is ISA.
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From: dleslie@aludra.usc.edu (David Leslie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: WOC - A4000 - sunga rattef
Date: 13 Sep 1992 14:14:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep13.142538.22024@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <18v8p9INNoh0@aludra.usc.edu> dleslie@aludra.usc.edu (David Leslie) writes:
>> Yes, exactly. Like an A3000, without the 030, and with an 040 card in the 
>> cpu slot.

>How much is the 040 card by itself?

I dunno, probably expensive. BTW, it was asked whether it would be possible
to buy the A4000 without the CPU card. the answer was 'no!' 

>> Their justification is simple, cost reduction.

>They could reduce the cost a lot more simply by leaving off the AT slots,
>and it'd be a better place to save money. So, that's not a good justification.

You are right, but never the less, that is what they said their justification 
was. I think there is near universal disapproval at IDE, but it is a decision
that can be rectified!


>> The fact that they haven't finsihed their 32bit scsi(R&D
>> budget????) may have played a part as well.

>The existing SCSI would be better than IDE, so that doesn't make sense.
>Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.

Well, yes, of course.  But still, maybe it wasn't worth the design time
to put the old scsi on, when they knew they were coming out with the new 32bit 
scsi design; and they could just drop in the IDE.

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From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Re: A4000 - Early Impressions
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:24:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.224824.16853@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>>There are a few things Commodore should be doing immediately:
>
>One other thing is to release an update of AmigaUX for the A4000.
>Maybe an A4000T would be nice...  (I am too full of ideas.)

Jim Dionne said that a tower A4000 would be out in Spring of 1993.


Mike, your friendly WOC Coorespondent.


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From: jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour)
Subject: Re: flamefest '92
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:14:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.153614.21744@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>[flame mocking Jeff Young deleted]
>
>James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew) writes:
>
>>Jeff Young's use of grammar is so bad that his writings are nearly
>>unintelligible. If you were watching a science fiction movie, and the movie
>>had a computer in it that spoke like Jeff writes, you would be spending
>>most of your time scratching your head and asking the person next to you,
>>"What did he say?"
>
>Hey... (though I know we shouldn't be this mean to Jeff) should we
>let Jeff converse with Eliza, and try our best to figure out who's who?
>

Shouldn't be too difficult.  Last time I "conversed" with Eliza (some
years ago, on my good 'ol Exidy Sorcerer) it was fairly coherent :-).

>This will be fun... :)
>
>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin
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From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: IBM lamers at their worst - uiuc siggraph meeting
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:29:32 GMT

jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>I don't think

	He admits it, finally.

>Therefore, I got the feeling that he was talking about native Amigas, without
>any external hardware.  Hence my comment.

	You didn't bother to ask, did you. You ASSumed, and I bet you know
how that phrase about assuming goes.

James
From: James_Mcormond@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:22:46 GMT

In a message dated Sat  5 Sep 92 11:12, Danaf@aix.rpi.edu (frank R. Dana Jr
wrote:

 DRD> I have just one tiny problem with this buyout-stock rise-big $$$
 DRD> scenario.

 DRD> CBM stock has been around $12.50 all its LIFE! Sure, new product

Actually, this is wrong.  I was taking a course at school, where the main
project, was to "pretend" to be investing in the stock market.  We had to
invest in at least 4 things.  By the end of the course, I had switched
everything into CBM stocks, and had trippled my initial investment.  (this
is after loosing in two of my other investments as well), so i'd say that
CBM stock hasn't been at its current position for long :-)

 DRD> part the "normal" price for a share of CBM stock seems to be between
 DRD> $10 and $15! 

When I "purchased" the stock 2 years ago, it was about $4.50.

This was right before the CDTV was released :-)

Jammer


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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PC (OS/2) / Amiga debate -- hopefully a rational debate <- (ha!)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:23:35 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Sep11.165440.13372@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:
> >
> >>Yes.  A typical 1MB VGA can store 6 screens of 640x480x4 graphics.  Switching
> >>is instantaneous, via a "display start address" register.
> >
> >Gee hey 6 whole screens.  Must get me one of them.   NOT!
> >
>
> Isn't it true that on the Amiga, the number of graphics screens available
> depends on the amount of Chip RAM installed?  If so, how many 640x480x4
> screens can a typical A500 store?  A3000?
>

640x480x4 = 153600 bytes.  My A3000 has 2MB of CHIP, so about 13.65333333
screens (rough figure :).

> >
> >copes@cs.curtin.edu.au
> >
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From: raymondu@terapin.com (Raymond Ulibarri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shakeout in PC Industry Continues 
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:46:57 PST
Organization: BBS

   About six months ago Packard Bell _ALMOST_ made a public stock offering. 
But it seemes that a large percentage of their machines were being returned
because of defaults.  Because of that and any number of other reasons, Packard
Bell recalled their stock offering.  That bodes ill for a business.


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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: High Density drive for the Amiga???
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:14:18 GMT

Guys, this is fascinating, really. But crossposted to 4 different
newsgroups? Keep an eye on the newsgroup and followup lines, ok?

Followups set to comp.sys.misc.whiners, err, I mean comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.
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From: devasoft@cup.portal.com (David Michael Alves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 20:09:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep3.040525.2537@ra.msstate.edu>  
  <1992Sep3.204408.8792@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
  <1992Sep3.214959.23973@usl.edu> <65231@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Sep4.035125.7981@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

Kelvin.Leung@Dartmouth.edu writes:

>> [ stuff about how "dumb" the UNREAL demo is deleted. ]

> Honestly speaking, now you know how Amigans feel--we keep on trying
> to convince some close-minded IBM/Mac owners how capable the Amiga is,
> and that it can be just as capable as an IBM/Mac.  Yet, all we get back
> are laughters... just like the ones you got.

Yes, I agree with you that there are closed-minded users of all computer
brands out there. (or did you just mean IBM and Mac owners? :-)

> I agree we shouldn't treat IBM/Mac-owners the way they treat us--but sometime
s
> we just cant help it.  I hope through this lesson, we will both learn...

Well Kelvin, I'm not sure what I'll learn from this lesson... since I 
not only develop for the PC, but have been programming the Amiga since
October 1985 when I bought my first Amiga 1000 from ComputerLand.(!)
(which is still running great by the way.)  Over the years I've written 
numerous programs for the Amiga, including a commercial children's educa-
tional program called "Amy's Fun-2-3 Adventure". (Reviewed in Aug '92 
AmigaWorld & Sept '92 Amazing Computing if you'd like to take a look. :-)  

But a few people think whenever anyone says anything good about the PC,
they are automatically attacking the Amiga.  (or whatever computer that 
user owns.)  Since I own both platforms, and enjoy using them both, I 
think it's safe to say that I was not being offensive towards the Amiga.

However, even though the Amiga is such a great machine and all, there are 
some really neat things happening in the PC world too these days... I 
think someone else posted how the PC world is now starting to feel like
the Amiga world felt in 1985.  I'd agree with that -- and what makes it   
doubly exciting is the fact that the PC is greatly supported here in the 
States.

If only the Amiga had the kind of support and *respect* the PC has here, 
things would be a lot different, and all computer users could live together 
in peace and harmony. :) 

But alas... the war goes on.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin

David Alves .............. Devasoft ............... devasoft@cup.portal.com
From: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Re: J Miner sleeping w/ Steven Jobs
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:05:59 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>>  Well you had me going up until this point...   Everyone knows that it's
>>theoreticaly impossible to complete an infinite loop in anything under 15
>>seconds.  Gheesh, what a blatent pack of lies.   :)

In article <65237@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Never been any such thing as an infinite loop. Never has been, never will be.

	On the contrary:  at any given moment, there are an infinite number
of infinite loops being executed.

	I dare you to prove me wrong.  Nyaaahh.

                                                        Dan

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