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Subject: Re: Rejoice, and Velvet reels
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:07:06
 .ca><OLSON.92Nov22223436@husc8.harvard.edu><1992Nov23.125755.460@news.wesleyan.edu>
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu's message of 23 Nov 92 16:57:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.125755.460@news.wesleyan.edu> DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY) writes:

>In <OLSON.92Nov22223436@husc8.harvard.edu> olson@husc8.harvard.edu writes:

[why am I quoting myself? Because I'm an egocentric jerk, that's why :-) ]
>
>> "A bodhran, anyway, is a hand-held drum about the same proportions as a 
>> tambourine, only somewhat larger.  You hold it by the two crossed struts
>> in back, and hit it with a short two-ended beater.  A really nifty bass
>> sound, and you can do some really nifty rhythms with it.  Most Irish/Celtic
>> bands use one at least occasionally."
>>
>"By the way," inserts Jack Crow, "it was first developed (according to a folk
>music teacher of mine) by the drummer for "the Chieftans" about thirty years
>ago.  The drum was around as a message drum or for ceremony type stuff, but the
>Chieftan drummer developed the style.  They have tenor bodhrans as well."

"Really? That's interesting... I've seen the Chieftains twice; they're about
the foremost Irish traditional band. Kevin Conneff is the drummer's name; he
also sings. If you want a good intro to the sort of stuff they do, pick up
"An Irish Evening" which was released this year... has guest performances
by Nanci Griffith and, of all people, Roger Daltrey."

--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"



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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: happy birthday, ed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:59:59 GMT

kitten bounces around putting up balloons and streamers...

"can somebody help me with this sign," she says...of course, several
of the patrons of callahans are willing to help kitten, and soon there
is a large sign hanging over the bar....

        *********SNAFU BAR AND 
                              GRILL**********

is what it says....with the famous logo of the dragon flaming the
computer terminal prominently featured...

kitten bounces and giggles..."this is a surprise, but it is my eddie's
birthday today...and i want it to be a pleasant one..."

the patrons of callahans notice that kitten is attired in gold lame'
and mickey mouse ears...soon, the sound of a motorcycle is heard...and
through the french doors comes ed...in the background you can hear a
sax playing softly....

kitten flings herself into ed's arms, squealing...


happy birthday ed....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Lamplighter's Re-Introduction
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:22:00 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

In article <1992Nov18.231959.11311@news.columbia.edu> tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tammy Jo Eckhart) writes:


>	The Lamplighter, who has never taken much stock in linear sequences
>of events, grins.  "It's a good thing you like purple, /*," he says, "seeing
>as how you are it."

/*, who has never had much of a linearly-sequenced life [  :)  ],
breaks out laughing.

"Even in RL it's pretty darned obvious to *everyone* what my favorite
color is!"

>	"I bet purple hugs are your specialty!  Though kitten here seems
>pretty good at them ..."

"Yup, purple hugs are here for the asking!  Want another?"

-- 
========================================================================
Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
========================================================================
From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another introduction...
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:50:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

In article <1ek2ceINNiff@gap.caltech.edu> ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
>>>"You wouldn't happen to have read 'The Rains of Eridan' by H. M. Hoover,
>>>would you?  One of my favorites ... I've been looking for a copy for years."

>>"No, I don't think so.  But I have a desperate need to go bookstore-
>>hopping soon, so I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it!"

>"Well, if you ever do see it, I'm certainly willing to pay (as long as you
>don't ship it to Australia first ...).  it would be worth the money just
>to have it stop nagging at the back of my head!"


/* smiles.

"OK, I'll check for it when I'm out, and if I find it,
I'll pick it up and let you know!  And it gives me a
great excuse to go to *lots* of bookstores!!  (Not that
I really need an excuse...) "



>>>>>>"Thanks, Abner!  I think I need another drink after that Purple-People
>>>>>>Eater scare!!"

>>>>>Here you go.  I'm sure it'll taste mauvelous!

>>>>"Many more that bad and I'll get violetly ill!!"

>>>"Say many more like that and you'll get purple upset at you!"

>>"Okay, okay, you win!  I thought I could go for a while
>>telling purple puns, but you've taken all the plum ones!!"

>Abner flinches.  He's reaching his limit.  "If you tell many more puns like
>that, we'll maroon you on a desert island!"

Grapefully, /* sits down and relaxes.

"Ok, no more punning or joking orchidding around!"

;)





-- 
========================================================================
Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
========================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Where does the time go?
Summary: Wherein DM rambles and perhaps visits the USA...
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:45:31 GMT

Danger Mouse sips his milk.

"I received a snail letter from Stumpy today. Our New Zealand friend's
account is no more. Here are some appropriately general extracts from
his letter:

"I've finally got my degree out of the way - all done bar the rubber stamp.
People around here keep asking me what I plan to do next year - to which I
reply 'Plan? What plan?' Get the picture?

"... I miss the trains. I rode more trains in that one week [in Australia]
than in the rest of my life put together. The novelty was just starting
to wear off when I left. Now I miss them.

"... Get Mike to give you one on me - he knows I'm good for it. I'll be
back... one day. See you on the flip side, Stumpy."

Mike smiles and raises a questioning eyebrow as DM finishes his glass of
milk. "Make it an Earl Grey tea, Mike. Thanks."

DM sighs as the steaming mug is handed over. "It all just reminds me of
how fast things change. It only seems a short time ago when Stumpy's
last post appeared here, or even when he was visting Sydney in RL. My
PhD supervisor returns from sabbatical in three weeks. I'd planned to be
up to a certain stage in my research by then, and I'm rushing furiously
to make it. I'm doubtful that my progress by New Year's will be quite as
far as I wanted.

"Time flies... all the time. I received another snail letter a couple of
weeks ago - from an old pen-pal in the San Francisco Bay area (yup,
pre-e-mail and all!). She is getting married in May next year. Pretty cool.
And even cooler, I am seriously considering taking up the invitation to
attend. :-)

"Sooo... all I need are a few Bay Area Callahanians to write and convince
me that I'd be missing out on some pretty hoopy fun and RealSpacing if I
declined. I'll only be able to spend a week or so there (PhD, ya know?),
and the wedding date is the 22nd of May. Any takers?"

DM pauses and reflects on what has been said in this post. "Wow, talk
about topic/mood-switching and incoherent rambling...."

- Danger Mouse.
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From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: The Difference Injure, II
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:01:00 +0000


>He sighs. "13 more school days, plus 5 more for finals.  Plus 3 or 4
>weekends.  26 days.  That's all.  And then they'll never see me 
>again unless I come visiting, which I doubt highly.  Stupid people
>shouldn't breed.  Sigh

Hugs Taldin? Can you just avoid them or are they eveywhere.
Mary is looking both concerned and annoyed.
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Ommmmmm, said the lift                    |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
| Organisation: Me? You're joking, right?   |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
|I know I type "teh" for "the" My fingers have their own accent ;-)    |
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+

Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Cyber (was Introduction was Eh?)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:20:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.224220.23434@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> walker@superboy.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>"I don't even remember the name of the first Sci
>Fi book I read.  It was written by M. L'Engle and
>was about some kids who meet with a Mrs. Which
>and tesseract and such.  It is a classic I just
>cant remember the name of it.  It was also a
>trilogy.  The first Sci Fi I really remember is
>reading the Tom Swift, Jr. stories out of the
>elementary school library."

   "Alright ! A Tom Swift Junior reader ! The story that had a *very*
profound{!} affect on me was a story about someone I sort of believe
exists somewhen, her name is Jirel of Joiry. Of course, Tom Swift, jr.
and his Betatron, Spaceship, etc. stories were interesting, but I
rather liked Jirel. I wonder what ever happened to her, " DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
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From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: Catholicism vs. Contraception
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:41:45 GMT

     What you're missing is that, if a catholic practices artificial birth 
control, that person is attempting to over-ride god's will.  They don't have to
succeed; it's still a sin to try.

(I'm not saying this is ACCURATE, just that this is the reasoning.)
-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: steve@crc.ricoh.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
	<1992Nov17.012155.27920@news.Hawaii.Edu> <1ea09rINNolh@gap.caltech.edu>
	<1992Nov17.174943.3622@data-io.com>
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:13:00

"Here's another shot at the 'moral relativism' debate," says the
Mandelbear.  "Some folks believe that killing people is wrong, Period.
Some folks believe that killing people is ok sometimes, like if their
government tells them to.  The conditions under which people will
allow their government to kill people vary from country to country as
well as from person to person.  If that isn't moral relativism, I'm
not sure what is."

The Mandelbear takes another sip of Genever.  "It occurred to me as I
was out taking my lunchtime walk that some Christians probably don't
realize how bizarre their religion looks to an outsider like myself.
I mean, consider a cult that practices ritual symbolic cannibalism,
has a high priest who claims his authority directly from God, which
officially denies established scientific facts on the authority of a
corrupt translation of a two-thousand-year-old collection of fiction,
slanted history, letters, love poetry, and assorted ravings, and
moreover teaches that what will happen to you after you die if you
don't practice their rituals is so horrible that some members of the
cult are willing to do *anything* to you (including torturing you to
death) to force you to convert.

"Admittedly the Catholic Church has changed some since the days of the
Inquisition, but on the whole not very much.  The belief structure is
still essentially the same, even if the practices have changed.  Other
Christian sects differ in various ways that (again, as seen from
outside) don't matter very much.

"And many members of these various sects then have the gall to say
that their religion is the *only* valid source of morality!  That if I
don't believe in their deity, I must have no morals at all.  Now
*that's* what I call evil!

"Here's to relativism and tolerance!  Long may they flourish!"
<<CRASH!>> 
--
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 \ steve@crc.ricoh.COM \ San Jose, CA 95128 \     Free Cyberia!
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From: me_s420@ceres (Chris Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Black Death Birthdays (Recipe Included)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:34:08 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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: > Taking the whisky, Spaceman sips it for a bit. When it is finished, he
: > steps up to the chalk line...
: 
: > "To Friends, Chocolate, Birthdays, and Whisky, but not necessarily in that
: >  order."
: 
: 
: kitten raises her glass and echoes the urban spaceman's toast....and
: offers birthday hugs to him and to john.

Which is gratefully received and reciprocated (1/hug ?) by the Urban Spaceman.



--
           |                      Chris Welch - The Urban Spaceman     
_______   | |   _______                me_s420@uk.ac.kingston
| ooo |  /| |\  | ooo |      
| ooo | |/ ^ \| | ooo |  "Second star on the right, straight on till morning.
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Rejoice, and Velvet reels
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:22:47 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov21.133848.450@news.wesleyan.edu>,
DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY) wrote:
> 
> In <1992Nov18.171704.14309@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> mfbertke@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
> >      Who else out there likes Celtic music?
> 
> Jack listens to Jason talk about 'Lannigan's Ball'  He goes back to his booth
> and gets his guitar, tunes it, and starts to play. 
> 
> 	"If Velvet would strike up a beat on the bodhran, we could do a mean
> 'Lannigan's Ball' right now.  Is there a piper in the house?  Jason, do you
> know the words?"
> 

Jason looks over at Jack with a long look on his face. "Ach lad, ye' caught
me unprepared. My song-book's back at the apartment, and I'm at work. BUT!
As soon as I get home tonight, I'll try to get it typed up and posted, and
then we can jam together. How's that lad?"

Jason
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:26:48 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1e78bdINNppi@gap.caltech.edu>, ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
=Speaker-To-Minerals sayeth...
=>It's been my experience that there's frequently a vast gulf
=>between what Christians pay lip service to and what they actually do.  When
=>they start claiming the stuff to which a large number of Christians only pay 
=>lip service as one of the accomplishments of Christianity, I won't let that 
=>pass unchallenged, especially when there are many non-Christians who actually 
=>DO what so many Christians only talk about.
=
=Well, to be fair, isn't it the case that the vast majority of people fail 
=(sometimes by a large amount) to live up to their professed ideals?  I know
=there are times when I've caught myself, before or after the fact ...
=
=No-one's perfect.  I will pay a certain amount of respect to a person who
=has a set of morals, tries to live up to it, and fails.

That's true.  However, please look again at what I said.  Paraphrased, it was:
	When Christians start claiming credit for a sort of behavior that's
	not demonstrably more prevalent among Christians than among the
	populace as a whole, I won't let that claim go unchallenged.
From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Pizza pty report
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:30:16 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:

>Danger Mouse shows his cultural ignorance again. "I've seen this mentioned
>before. Can somebody please explain what 'Canadian bacon' is? I am
>assuming it is not merely bacon from Canada - else why distinguish it
>from any other bacon?"

"Oh that's easy enough, it's a smoked bacon, which has been marinaded before
smoking in a maple syrup. Nice enough, but a bit too sweet for my tastes. Just
give me nice bit of back bacon, not too streaky, with plenty of rind.

"That's one of the fun things about supermarkets and a global economy - you
can find just about anything from anywhere (but not Oreo Cookies in the UK!).
Anyone willing to send a packet to Bath? You'll have two very grateful UK
Callahanaians if you do!"

The cartoon mouse grins, and snuggles back down again.

Ignatz/Simon
.
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From: mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:02:00 GMT

In article <1ebkddINNol2@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.050234.10394@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>[90 lines detailing what is known in science as an unfalsifiable hypothesis
>deleted]

>So, how long has that invisible 3 inch flying pink elephant been following you?

	"'Bout three weeks now.  Only it's blue, not pink.  Why do you
ask?"  Michael ponders his own statement, and wonders what Mike's been
putting in the diet Coke.  "But note that an unfalsifiable hypothesis
is just that-- unfalsifiable.  That means it's not scientific-- it
does not mean that it isn't true.  I point out that
the existence of a real universe itself is equally nonfalsifiable.  So
is the applicability of logic to the real world.  How do you choose
_your_ axioms, good kzin?"

Michael



-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mss2@amber.uchicago.edu		    Virginia (1784)
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From: s9000938@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Jacqueline Quennell)
Subject: Re: A Little Light
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:52:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.185039.15139@data-io.com> li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:

>Quietly she says, "Hey, DM.  Can you tell me about what the Australian
>summer is like now?  I could use a little of it... 


While I am sure that DM will reply to this - I couldn't resist the temptation
to describe what I can see out the window:

The day has been warm - about 28 degrees C (I can't remember what degrees F)
and while it's cooling off now it's still warm enough for me to be sitting in
my shorts (which is not a pretty sight).

The sky is THE most amazing shades of orange and red with 3 cirrus clouds
serving only to highlight the colours.

In a couple of hours I'll have to go out for a while, and I'll put on jeans
a t shirt and thongs as it will have cooled off a bit by then.


So thats a pleasant day as summer is almost upon us in Australia.


Anyway - I've gotta dry throat from talking too much:


MIKE - more beer please mate.



Later

--

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: Jacqui Quenell  s9000938@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU    Dept of Bio Tech :
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:57:30 GMT

  "Michael, excellent analogy ! Mike, I'll pay for his next drink !" DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                     "Kill the Wabbit ! " Elmer Fudd.
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:54:31 GMT
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center


 In article <1992Nov17.012155.27920@news.Hawaii.Edu>, 
mwasson@minnie.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson) writes:
> If I say, 'I believe the world is flat,' that's a *claim* that the
> world is, in fact, flat.  You wouldn't say 'I believe the world is
> flat but I'm wrong.'  Moral relativists seem to be saying something
> quite like that in the realm of normative truths.  'I personally 
> believe that X is wrong, though it may not be wrong for somebody else'
> is just like saying 'I believe the world is flat but it may not be
> flat for somebody else'.  By this argument, moral relativism is not
> distinct from moral nihilism -- itself a consistent enough position if
> you care to adopt it, but one most moral relativists would (I think)
> shy away from."

I apologize in advance.  I have been trying not to get
sucked into this conversation.

I think you are setting up straw figures here again.  The shape
of the world is an observable fact.  Not a moral statement.

Moral relativism is that that -- about morality and/or ethics.
It covers questions like interpersonal relationships.  Relationships
between people and their communities.  Relationships between
people and their dieties.

Some Christian sects choose to decide that certain relationships
between people are immoral.  For example, relations between
members of the same sex.  Or sexual relationships between more than
two people.  Other belief systems, including religious ones, don't
see these as moral issues.  Some hold, for example, that any
relationship founded in love and respect is good regardless of
the sex and/or number of the participants.  

On a question like this there *isn't* an objective standard of 
good/truth.  There are only moral decisions made on the basis
of the beliefs/worldview of the participants or those who are
judging them.

Gypsy looks at the soapboxes forming beneath her.  <grin>
She reaches into a pouch among her scarves and pulls out
a coin.  <Hey Mike, preaching is thirsty work.  Please make me a
large mai tai.>

<To relationships founded on love and respect!>

*******CRASH****************

Rowan (Gypsy Woman)

Rowan Fairgrove
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