From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Interview with Lazar on Area 51
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:23:01 GMT



The following are some of the first messages that appeared on the Paranet
UFO network regarding Robert Lazar.
 
----Begin Included Text ---------------------------------------------
 


Message #2505 "PN: UFO"
Date: 11-Nov-89 03:25
From: Michael Corbin
To:   All
Subj: For Immediate Release
Next Reply is Message #2506

November 10, 1989

     ParaNet  Information Service (Denver, CO)--This evening  saw
perhaps an unprecedented event in UFOlogy.  KLAS-TV in Las Vegas,
Nevada  has  been airing a UFO special during  the  evening  news
which began on Monday dealing with the UFO mystery and  cover-up.
The series, which has been covered by ParaNet, began its coverage
with  a  history of UFOs beginning in the late 1940s  and  moving
forward  through  the  numerous sighting reports  to  the  cattle
mutilations,  which was aired last evening.  As promised  at  the
close of last evening's show, George Knapp, a news anchorman  for
Channel  8  in Vegas, stated that a scientific  person  would  be
featured on tonight's program who has claimed to work at Area 51,
the government's super-secret test range at Nellis AFB in Nevada.
Indeed,  quite a story was told by Robert Lazar, a physicist  who
claimed  that  he had worked on a project at  Area  51  involving
flying disks provided by alien intelligences.
     Over the last year, ParaNet has carried stories relating  to
possible  involvement  with the government in  projects  of  this
nature at the Nevada test site.  Up to now, the stories have been
of a very speculative nature.  Although the material presented by
Robert  Lazar  remains unconfirmed, enough information  has  been
disclosed that ParaNet's large investigative staff in Nevada  has
started  an  intensive investigation into this  release.   It  is
interesting  to  note that Robert Lazar is an associate  of  John
Lear  and  has been providing this information to Lear  over  the
last  few  months.  Lear has appeared on Channel  8  on  numerous
occasions together will Bill Cooper discussing Lear's famous  'ET
Hypothesis.'   According  to  Lear,  Lazar  was  instrumental  in
providing  Lear  with locations overlooking the test  site  which
would  provide a good view of the objects as they flew  into  the
night  sky.   Lear attempted to shoot video of an  object  as  it
maneuvered  through  the night sky during  last  summer,  however
nothing  was captured on the tape of a substantive nature.   Lear
also  relates  that his group was harassed by  a  Lincoln  County
sheriff following his attempts to take the pictures.
     Below  is  a  transcript  of the  program  that  aired  this
evening.   All paragraphs out of quotes are the narrator  of  the
segment.   We were as accurate as possible on the  transcription,
however  there are a couple of places where comments were  edited
out due to inability to understand what was being said.
     Further  reports  will be provided  as  information  becomes
available.
=================================================================

     We've  been  working  on  the  story  for  some  time....UFO
researchers  claim that there is a secret government  within  our
government.  Now this may be hard to believe coming from the  UFO
perspective,  but  we have learned that Watergate  and  the  Iran
Contra  scandal  that factions within our government can  and  do
pursue  their own hidden agendas outside of the law; outside  the
control of the Congress or the knowledge of the American  people.
This is exactly the type of operation that we hear about tonight.
It's  a  chilling scenario with worldwide implications  that  may
have its roots right here [Las Vegas, Nevada].
     Area 51, that mysterious corner of the Nevada Test Site,  is
no  longer considered a secret.  The fact that  secretive  things
go on here isn't evident; even to the Soviets who make daily  spy
flights  over  the facility to take a peek at  what's  going  on.
These photos, never before shown in public, are about as close as
anyone will ever come to seeing what the place looks like  again.
The dry bed at Groom Lake, the corrugated buildings, a three-mile
long  runway  and some highly sophisticated radar  and  detection
equipment.   Its  been  known by many names  over  the  years  --
Dreamland; The Ranch; The Skunk Works.  If ever there was a place
to  test  the  secret new technology, this  is  it.   And  that's
exactly what has been done here for decades.
     Area  51  is  where Francis Gary Powers and  the  other  U-2
pilots  were trained in the 50s.  And, where the U-2  itself  was
developed.   The SR-71 spy plane that spotted Soviet missiles  in
Cuba  in  the early 60s were also developed at 51.  51  is  where
Stealth  technology  was nurtured, where Star  Wars  devices  are
still tested, and where all manner of CIA [unknown] business  has
been  plotted  and refined.  It's the perfect  place  for  secret
things,  but  of course, that's no secret.  51 is ringed  by  the
forbidden vastness of the Nevada test site; by the looming  Groom
Mountain  and  by sparsely populated desert  expanses.   But  the
people that do live out here have no love lost for the  military,
but  they're  conservative,  patriotic and they  mind  their  own
business.

Interviewer questioning a nearby resident of Area 51:  "Ever  see
something that you can't explain?"
Resident: "Sure, lots of times."
Interviewer:  "Care to elaborate?"
Resident:  "No."  (Laughter).

     On  any given night at the Rachel Bar and Grill,  you  might
find  three or four people who work at Area 51.  They  are  among
the flowing Budweiser and the cowboy hats.  You might find  them,
but  they  are not going to talk to you.  Not about the  things  that
they have seen over the mountain.  A steady trickle of curiosity-
seekers  flows through here; strangers, drawn by strange  stories
of lights in the night sky.  Their questions also go  unanswered.
No one who has worked at Dreamland has ever publicly acknowledged
what  so  many  people  have suspected  for  years:   That  alien
technology is being tested in the Nevada desert.
     The speculation first surfaced in documents obtained by  UFO
researchers.  Documents about something called Project  Aquarius.
The document allegedly prepared for an organization called MJ-12,
states  that  a  program to fly recovered  alien  spacecraft  was
established  in 1972 and is continuing in Nevada.   The  National
Security Agency has confirmed it does have a Project Aquarius but
denies that it has anything to do with flying saucers.  NSA  will
not say what Project Aquarius is.
     Speculation  was  heightened  in 1984, when  the  Air  Force
seized nearly 90,000 acres around Groom Lake.  The action was, by
most accounts, illegal.  During Congressional hearings about  the
land grab, Congressman John Siberling grilled the military  about
the legal authority used in the action and was told the authority
was   at  a  much,  much  higher  level  than  the   Air   Force.
Siberling  asked  what authority is higher than the laws  of  the
United States?  The Air Force official said he could respond, but
only in a closed briefing.  In 1987, when the Air Force sought to
renew  its  stranglehold on the Groom range, news  articles  once
again  mentioned the talk about alien spacecraft  and  subsequent
articles  in  national magazines quoted  un-named  sources  about
things of alien origin flying in Nevada.  Things that would  make
film-maker  George Lucas drool.  Despite the speculation, no  one
who  knew Area 51 from the inside ever talked publicly about  the
saucer story.

Bob  Lazar:  "Well, there's several uh, actually nine  uh  flying
saucers,  flying  disks that are out  there  of  extraterrestrial
origin."   The  live  interview with the  shadowy  "Dennis"  drew
international attention.  Portions were broadcast by radio in six
European  countries, and in a nationally televised TV special  in
Japan.
     Despite  numerous  inquiries  and  "feelers,"  "Dennis"  has
remained anonymous until now.  His real name is Robert Lazar.   A
young scientist with eclectic interests.  The choice of  "Dennis"
was an inside joke -- he says that's the name of his superior  at
Groom Lake.  It wasn't a joke to Dennis.

Lazar:   "He called right after and said, 'Do you have  any  idea
what we're going to do to you now?' and I said no, and he hung up
the phone."

     Lazar's  story is by any standard, fantastic.  He says  he's
telling it in order to protect himself.  He said he was hired  to
work in area called S-4 which is a few miles south of Groom Lake.
At  S-4,  he says, are flying saucers, anti-matter  reactors  and
other  working  examples of technology that is  seemingly  beyond
human capabilities.

Lazar:  "Right.  This stuff came from somewhere else.  I know  it
is  hard to believe, but it is there and I saw it.  I  know  what
the  current  state-of-the-art is in physics and it it  can't  be
done."

     Checking  out Lazar's credentials proved to be  a  difficult
task.   He says he holds degrees in physics and electronics,  but
the schools that we contacted say they've never heard of him.  He
says  he  also  worked  as a physicist  at  Los  Alamos  National
Labs  where  he worked with one of the world's  largest  particle
beam  accelerators,  a  half-mile  long  'behemoth'  capable   of
generating  seven-hundred  million volts.  Los  Alamos  officials
told  us they have no record of Robert Lazar ever working  there.
They were either mistaken or were lying.  A 1982 phone book  from
the  Lab lists Lazar right there among the other  scientists  and
technicians.  A 1982 news clipping from the Los Alamos  newspaper
profiled Lazar and his interest in jet cars.  It, too,  mentioned
his  employment at the Lab as a physicist.  We called Los  Alamos
again,  and  an  exasperated official told us  he  still  had  no
records  on  Lazar.   EG&G,  which is where  Lazar  says  he  was
interviewed  for the job at S-4, also has no record.  It's as  if
someone has made him disappear.

Lazar:  "Well, they're trying to make me look non-existent to the
places that I called...."
Interviewer:  "Explain.  Called where?"
Lazar:   "Well, the schools that I went to; the hospital  that  I
was born at; past jobs, and nothing comes up with my name on it."

     He smiles, but out of futility, knowing the whole thing must
sound  ridiculous.   According  to Lazar, his  employer  was  the
United  States Navy.  He says he and other  government  employees
would gather near EG&G, fly to Groom Lake, then a very few people
would get into a bus with blacked out or no windows and drive  to
S-4.

Interviewer:  "You get off the bus, what do you see?"
Lazar:   "A  very  interesting  building.  Its  got  a  slope  of
probably  about  30 degrees which are hangar doors,  and  it  has
textured paint on it, but it looks like sand.  It's made to  look
like  the  side of the mountain that it is in,  whether  it's  to
disguise it from satellite photographs or what...."

     He  says he was never told exactly what he would be  working
on, but figured it had something to do with advanced  propulsion.
On  his first day he was told to read a series of briefings,  and
immediately realized how advanced the propulsion really was.

Lazar:   "The power source is an anti-matter reactor.   They  run
gravity  amplifiers.   There is actually two parts to  the  drive
mechanism.   It's  a bizarre technology.  There  is  no  physical
hookups between any of the systems in there.  They use gravity as
a wave using wave guides that look like microwaves."

     It  took awhile, Lazar says, before he actually saw  one  of
the flying disks, however there were hints everywhere.

Lazar:   "Right.   They  had  a poster,  and  it  looked  like  a
commercial  poster, like it was lithographed, like you could  buy
it  at K-Mart or someplace, but they were all over the place  and
it  had the disk that I coined the term 'the floor  model'  which
lifted  off the ground about 3 feet out at the area, in  the  Dry
Lakes  area,  and the caption on it said 'They're  here.'   These
posters were all over the place."

     Later, he got to see the real thing.

Lazar:  "When I was led in, it was the first time that I saw  the
'floor  model'  in the hangar sitting down, and I was  told  they
could have walked me in the front door but they purposely  wanted
to walk me by it.  I was told not to say anything and to keep  my
eyes  forward and walk past the disk to the office area.   And  I
did.   And as we went by it, I just kinda stuck my hands  on  it,
just to run it alongside the thing and uh ....After that I got to
see actually lift off the ground and operate."
Interviewer:  "You actually got to see more than one?"
Lazar:   "Yeah.  The hangars are all connected  together.   There
are large bay doors between each one.  There were nine total that
I  saw, each one being different.  Like they had  the  assortment
pack."

     Security at S-4 was oppressive Lazar said, and his superiors
used fear and intimidation almost as a brainwashing tool.

Lazar:  "They did everything but physically hurt me."
Interviewer:  "They put a gun to your head?"
Lazar:  "Yeah."
Interviewer:  "You mean they actually put a gun to your head?"
Lazar:   "They did that even in the original  security  briefing.
Guards there with M-16s.  Guys there slamming their fingers  into
my  chest, screaming into my ear, they were pointing  weapons  at
me.  Like I said, it's not a good place to work."

     That  fear  factor  would surface later.   Lazar  agreed  to
undergo a polygraph exam as part of this report.  Polygrapher Ron
Clay asked about the technology that Lazar had seen.

Polygrapher:   "Did you knowingly lie when you had actually  seen
anti-gravity propulsion in operation?"
Lazar:  "No."

     The results of this exam were inconclusive.  Lazar  appeared
to  be  truthful  on  one test;  deceitful  on  a  second.   Clay
recommended  that a second examiner be brought  in.   Polygrapher
Terry Tabernetti (sp?) runs a corporate security operation and is
a  former Los Angeles police officer.  He put Lazar through  four
tests and concluded there were no attempts to deceive.
     Tabernetti sent his test results to a third polygrapher  who
agreed the results appeared truthful.  The charts were then  sent
to  a  fourth examiner who did not agree  suggesting  that  Lazar
might  be  relating information he'd learned from  someone  else.
The  polygraphers  concurred and decided they would not  issue  a
final  statement on truthfulness until more specific testing  can
be conducted.  And that's where it stands.
     Tabernetti  believes the difficulty in  determining  Lazar's
truthfulness stems from the fear that was drilled into him.

Lazar:  "Well, I am telling the truth.  I've tried to prove that.
What's  going  on up there could be the most important  event  in
history.   You're  talking about contact,  physical  contact  and
proof from another planet, another system, another  intelligence.
Thats got to be the biggest event in history, period.  And,  it's
real  and it's there.  And I had an extremely small part  in  it.
I'm  convinced that what I saw is absolute proof of that.   There
is  no way that we could have created those disks.  There  is  no
way  we could have made the disks, the power  supplies,  anything
that goes with it."

     Lazar  says he has no intention of going on any UFO  lecture
circuit.  He is not looking to do any additional interviews.   In
fact, he was not too crazy about doing this one.  He did it after
certain unfavorable things started happening in his life, and  he
did it because he feels that whoever is running the show up at S-
4  is  perpetrating  a  fraud on  the  American  people  and  the
scientific community.

=================================================================


Message #3969 "PN: UFO"
Date: 12-Nov-89 01:48
From: Michael Corbin
To:   All
Subj: Correction to the Area 51 transcript

SUBJECT:  ADDENDUM/CORRECTIONS RE 11/10/89 KLAS-TV/NEVADA TEST
SITE/AREA 51 UFO REPORT

My introduction to the partial transcript of the program contains
certain  presumptions -- rather than evidence -- which may be misleading.
These presumptions were based on prior SEPARATE KLAS-TV telecasts with Lear
and with a "Dennis" -- now revealed as Robert Lazar.

>  It is interesting to note that Robert Lazar is an associate of
>  John Lear and has been providing this information to Lear over
>  the last few months.

The extent to which Lazar has interfaced with Lear is unknown.  In fact,
Lear appears to have had a number of Nevada Test Site sources, any one of
whom could have provided him with the Area 51 information.

>  According to Lear, Lazar was instrumental in providing Lear
>  with locations overlooking the test site which would provide
>  a good view of the objects as they flew into the night sky.

In fact, it is unknown who -- if anyone -- steered Lear to the specific
locations overlooking the Nevada Test Site.  Lear has made no statement
regarding Lazar in this regard.

>  As promised at the close of last evening's show, George Knapp,
>  a news anchorman for Channel 8 in Vegas, stated that a
>  scientific person would be featured on tonight's program
>  who has claimed to work at Area 51, the government's
>  super-secret test range at Nellis AFB in Nevada.

Rather than being situated at Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas, Area 51
lies in the northeast corner of the U.S. Government's Nevada Test Site at
Mercury, Nevada, which is 65 miles north of Nellis Air Force Base.

Mike


Message #4002 "PN: UFO"
Date: 14-Nov-89 03:22
From: Robert Klinn
To:   All
Subj: Area 51:  The Nevada Test Site's Supersecret UFO Base?
Next Reply is Message #4023

With two top local TV stations here in Las Vegas -- KLAS-TV and KTNV-TV --
carrying deadly serious news reports this week of real alien UFOs POSSIBLY
being flown out of the supersecret Area 51, that portion of the U.S.
Government's Nevada Test Site which the Air Force refuses to acknowledge as
even existing, the situation here appears like The War of the Worlds. 
Disinformation?  Reality?
What next?
At KTNV-TV, photographer Clay Downey and reporter Glen Meek are tracking
down the nature of the on-going projects at Area 51.  Off-air, Meek says he
has discovered that Area 51 is comprised of four sections.  Of those, he has
learned the type of activity occurring at two of them.  He has been having
much difficulty learning the type of activity occurring at the other two.
KTNV will broadcast reports this week at 5:30 p.m. Wed., Thurs, & Fri.
In a videotape presented by KLAS-TV newsman George Knapp, a UFO performs
abrupt manuevers over what may be the "S-4" portion of Area 51 at the Test
Site.  Knapp's final report will be broadcast tonight, Tuesday at
approximately 6:15 p.m.
Knapp's star witness is scientist Robert Lazar, who drew a picture of the
craft he saw operating at the base.
Lazar emphatically claims these are alien craft -- not human-made devices.
Lazar says at least one UFO appeared to have been ruptured by a projectile.
War of the Worlds?
Robert B. Klinn
--- QuickBBS v2.04
 * Origin: -=<ParaNet Alpha(sm)>=- Denver, CO (303)232-6115 (1:104/422)


Message #4024 "PN: UFO"
Date: 15-Nov-89 01:55
From: Michael Corbin
To:   All
Subj: Installment on Dreamland continued.

November 13, 1989

     ParaNet   Information  Service  (Denver,  CO)  --   In   our
continuing  coverage of the remarkable revelations coming out  of
Las  Vegas, Nevada, here is the next installment to  the  program
aired  on  November 13, 1989 by television  station  KLAS-TV  and
George Knapp.

=================================================================
News Anchor persons:
     A  former  government scientist has alleged  that  the  U.S.
military is flying recovered UFOs at a secret base in the  Nevada
desert.  The allegations about the secret facility near the Groom
Mountains  first  surfaced  on Eyewitness  News  on  last  Friday
[November 10, 1989].
     Scientist Bob Lazar says that there are at least nine of the
flying  saucers  being  tested and that they were  not  built  on
Earth.   George Knapp has more on the continuation of our  series
on UFOs.

Lazar:   "Yeah.  It was obvious it came from somewhere else,  uh,
other than Earth."

     Scientist Bob Lazar was convinced that the technology he saw
being  tested at a secret base in the Nevada desert is  of  alien
origin,  and for Lazar the proof is, at least, partially  in  the
furniture.   One of the nine flying disks he says he saw  at  the
base,  which  was  designated S-4, looks exactly  like  this  UFO
photographed  in Europe [Photo of UFO shown].   Lazar  called  it
the "sport model."

Lazar:  "I gave everything names -- the top hat one and you  know
the  jello  mold and, uh, the sport model  operated  without  any
hitches  at  all.  I mean, it looked new.  If I knew what  a  new
flying  saucer looked like.  One of them looked like it  was  hit
with  some  sort  of a projectile.  It had a large  hole  in  the
bottom  and a large hole in the top with the metal bent out  like
some  sort  of,  you know, large caliber 4 or  5  inch  had  gone
through it."

     Even  before he saw the sport model operate, Lazar says,  he
suspected   that  the  ship  came  from  somewhere   else.    The
realization  slapped him in the face the first time  he  glimpsed
the inside of the disk.

Lazar:  "I got to look inside and it had really small chairs.   I
think  that  was the first confirmation I had.  That was  just  a
shocking thing because everytime before that I was able to  label
it.  This is just a little advance that a group of scientists had
formed  and,  you know, they're keeping it secret, and  yeah,  we
could  have  built  a big disk like that,  and  yeah,  that's  no
problem, and, you know, we could have adapted the use(?) to  make
it fly, but why does it have little furniture inside?  [garbled].
And things began to click together just all too fast."

     A  few of the disks had been completely dismantled  to  find
out   how  they  worked,  Lazar  says,  but  others  were   fully
operational.  A Japanese TV network created this animated version
of  Lazar's story after his first interview with us aired in  May
[showing  video].  Lazar says the dramatization is similar  to  a
test flight he witnessed.

Lazar:  "The bottom of it glowed blue and began to hiss like any,
like  high  voltage does on a round sphere.  It's  my  impression
that the reason that they're round and have no sharp edges is  to
contain the high voltage like, uh, if you've seen a high  voltage
system's insulators -- things are round or else you get a  corona
discharge.   In either case, it began to hiss as in high  voltage
and it lifted off the ground quietly except for that little  hiss
in  the background, and that stopped as soon as it reached  about
20 or 30 feet."

     Lazar  says the test of the sport model was a short  one  --
that  it  made  only a few moves before setting  back  down.   He
didn't  see  who  was actually flying the  craft,  but  was  very
impressed, nonetheless.

Lazar:  "Well, there's no action reaction system to it.   There's
no,  like  in a jet engine, exhaust gas being thrown  out  --  no
propeller,  no noise.  It's just, for all intents  and  purposes,
magic."

     To  Lazar's knowledge, the flying disks are not being  used,
for  say, any flights to Jupiter.  He said excessive caution  and
intense  secrecy contributed to the plodding pace of the  program
and were a main source of his disenchantment.

Lazar:   "It's just unfair, outright, not to put it in the  hands
of the overall scientific community.  There are people much  more
capable of dealing with this information, and by this time  would
have  gotten a lot further along than this small select group  of
people working out in the middle of the desert.  They don't  even
have  the facilities, really, to completely analyze what  they're
dealing with."

Gene  Huff:  "Well he was being quiet.  If he kept me abreast  of
anything,  he  kept me abreast of the security checks  --  they'd
randomly  drop  by his house.  They'd threaten his  life;  they'd
threaten  his wife's life.  They had done all that so  we  really
didn't converse, I mean, he really was adhering to the program."

     Gene  Huff is a Las Vegas real estate appraiser.  A  regular
guy  who  just  happens to have a friend  in  the  flying  saucer
business.  He learned about Lazar's S-4 experiences only after  a
long period.  Lazar is anxious for people to know that he  didn't
just  run  right out and spill the secrets of the  universe,  and
that some things are properly kept confidential.

Lazar:  "I did not believe that this should be a security matter.
Some  of it, sure.  But, just the concept that  there's  definite
proof, and uh, we even have articles from another world,  another
system, you just can't not tell everyone.  A lot of people  don't
believe that.  But, I do."

     When he reached what he felt was his bursting point, he took
Huff  and a few others to the edge of the Groom Mountains to  see
the  flights  for themselves.  A total of five witnesses  on  two
consecutive  weeks managed to dodge security patrols long  enough
to see the strange glowing object lift above the mountain.

Huff(?):   "Uh,  it came up above the same  mountain.   It  moved
around.   It  did a step move -- it actually went up in  the  air
like  this  [showing  details with hands]  and  it  hovered  then
dropped way down then it just floated around and cruised  around.
It starts coming up the mountain range...."

     This home video tape was recorded during one of the trips to
the   Groom   Mountains   [showing  video   tape.    A   lot   of
talking....Object  in  sight....Mention  of  brightness  of   the
object....].
     Admittedly,  the tape proves very little by itself  because,
with  the distance and darkness,  there are no  reference  points
other than the alleged flying disk, but Lazar's information about
the  time and location of the test flight proves correct  --  not
once  but  twice.  That, according to our  off-camera  interviews
with each of the other witnesses.  Gene Huff describes his second
sighting:

Huff:   "Through the telescope we could see an  elliptical-shaped
light.   You  can only get so close even with a  telescope  to  a
secure  facility.   Anyway, it came up by us  very  rapidly.   It
glowed  and  glows  brighter like a star and we  almost  got  the
feeling that it was going to explode, it glowed so brightly.   We
backed  up behind the car then it went down and glowed back up  a
little bit and then very softly glided back over, back where  the
mountains  where it came up, hovered for awhile, and then  that's
that....Just like you see in the movies."

     Bob Lazar isn't the only person to claim "inside  knowledge"
of  the  flying  disks at the test site -- he is  just  the  only
person  to  say so publicly.  We have communicated  with  several
people who say they know of the saucer program.  A technician  in
a highly sensitive position told us it is "common knowledge among
those  with high security clearances that recovered  alien  disks
are  stored at the Nevada test site."  A Las Vegas  professional,
who  once  served in the military and was stationed at  the  test
site,  said he saw a flying disk land outside the  boundaries  of
Area  51 -- that it was quickly surrounded by security  personnel
and  that he was taken away and debriefed for several  hours.   A
man  who  once  worked  at Groom Lake as  a  technician,  at  our
request, wrote this letter explaining how he inadvertently walked
into  the  wrong  hangar  and saw what appeared  to  be  a  large
metallic disk under a tarp.  It was being examined by men in  lab
coats.   And,  an  airman  who  worked  at  Nellis  at  a   radar
installation  says  he and his fellow servicemen watched  over  a
period  of  five nights, unusual objects flying  over  the  Groom
Mountains.  He says the radar images indicates the objects zoomed
into range at speeds of 7,000 miles per hour and then would  stop
on  a  dime, and that nothing we have is capable of  doing  that.
The  airman says that when word of his sighting got out,  he  was
ordered  to turn off his radar sensors for that area and told  to
keep quiet about the matter because it did not happen.
     None  of  this means that the military  is  actually  flying
alien  spacecraft in the Nevada desert.  It could all perhaps  be
explained as some other secret program.  Lazar insists that's not
the case.
     We  put  the  matter to the U.S. Navy,  which  according  to
Lazar, is running the saucer show.  Four different naval  offices
were  contacted.   All  denied having any  information  in  their
files.   The  Naval  Research Lab said it  conducted  a  thorough
search  but found "zip."  Naval Intelligence said much  the  same
thing,  adding,  it is not required to create a  file  where  one
doesn't  exist.  A side note:  We also requested files on  a  UFO
sighting over Tremonton, Utah in 1952.  The Navy spent more  than
a thousand hours studying film of that sighting -- a fact  that's
been  noted in several publications -- but, for purposes  of  our
request, the Navy couldn't find those files either.

Lazar:   "The group that runs this project, whether it really  is
the  Navy  or they just say that, apparently  these  people  have
executive power -- they don't report to anyone."

     Tomorrow,   more  troubling  allegations  of  the   military
potential of alien technology.

=================================================================

This file is available on ParaNet as Area51-2.ufo.

End of file


-- 
-* Don Allen *-  InterNet: dona@bilver.UUCP  // Amiga..for the best of us.
USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ Why use anything else? :-)
UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona      0110 0110 0110 Just say NO! 
Illuminati < MJ-12|Greys|TLC|CFR|FED|Bilderbergs > UN = "New World Order"


Article 5373 of alt.conspiracy: