From: jad@ckuxb.att.com (John A Dinardo)
Subject: Part XV, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:18:05 GMT

        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
GAETON FONZI:
When I was working for Senator Schweiker, on the Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence, I developed a witness in Miami named
Antonio Visiana. He was a former accountant in Cuba who had founded
Alpha 66. As I said, it was Alpha 66 that was one of the anti-Castro
Cuban groups that actually tried to blow up the Russian ships in
Havana Harbor, and blow apart Kennedy's deal with Kruschev. Visiana
told me that he was recruited in Havana in 1961 by an American named
Maurice Bishop. Bishop was the secret behind-the-scenes strategic
director of everything that he did with Alpha 66.
He worked with Bishop from 1961 until 1973, and during that period
of time, he worked with him on three attempts to assassinate Fidel
Castro. These were operations planned by Bishop who was obviously
an intelligence operative. He met with Bishop several times a year 
and whenever it became necessary to plan strategy.                 
                                                                  
In September of 1963, he made arrangements to meet with Bishop in
the lobby of an office building in Dallas. That was nothing new
because he had met Bishop a number of times in Dallas. When Visiana
arrived, Bishop was talking to a young man. When President Kennedy
was assassinated, Visiana immediately recognized Lee Harvey Oswald
as that young man. I thought that this was tremendously important;
perhaps the single most significant piece of new evidence since the
Warren Commission investigation, because Bishop was obviously CIA.
And the CIA had repeatedly denied any connection or contact with
Oswald. After we got Visiana to develop a sketch of Bishop, it was
Senator Schweiker who identified Bishop as being David Atlee Phillips,
a CIA officer who had risen to one of the highest ranks in the
Agency as the Chief of the Western Hemisphere Division. And we
discovered that Phillips was an undercover agent in Havana during
the period in which Visiana said that he had met Bishop. In 1963,
Phillips was Chief of Covert Operations in Mexico City, and he was
subsequently responsible for all the disinformation that the CIA
had fed the Warren Commission about Oswald's visits there.

This was one of the areas -- the link between David Atlee Phillips
and Maurice Bishop -- that I feel the House Select Committee didn't
want to go into because it would have opened too many doors, too
many important doors. And every one of those doors was marked "CIA".

GARY NULL:
Alright.  Now, if that is the case, then let's summarize here. 
What we have is a group of individuals with intelligence community
associations: CIA.  We also have a few people who were ex-FBI,
including one who would play a very important role, and who was
also very familiar with Alpha 66.  Then we had Guy Bannister.
Now I don't believe that it was possible for Guy Bannister and
David Ferrie ..... who both were known to Alpha 66 and the people 
[thereunto] associated, and who also were familiar with what had
gone on with some attempted assassinations of Kennedy (with CIA
involvement). I believe that that had to have been a sub-contract to
the Mob. And when you look at what Johnny Roselli was testifying
about in secret, and then he was killed just a short time after
that, then you start to bring in Sam Giancana and Santos Trafficante,
the Mob boss of Tampa. And you start showing the connection -- that
it wasn't just possibly the Mob, and it wasn't just the intelligence
community.  It was a marriage of the two.

Still, if you look at the precision of the assassination -- and we 
have new information about that assassination that we're going to
be revealing for the first time anywhere, in another week or so --
it could not have been done unless people were very very SKILLED in
hits.

      [JD: The tape ran out here. I'll try to obtain a copy of the
       missing remainder of the broadcast, but for now, let's resume
       with the next day's broadcast. Here again, I missed some of  
       the beginning.]

GARY NULL:
..... ended up being there when it arrived in Bethdesda. And also,
(a very important piece of evidence) the fact that there were three
separate caskets that entered that hospital .....

DAVID LIFTON:
I said two.

GARY NULL:
Two.  Well, also there was a circumstance of the same one being
seen twice: the bronze casket.

DAVID LIFTON:
Separate entries of two caskets. That's correct, according to
the evidence.

GARY NULL:
But the public was led to believe that there was only one casket: 
the casket that the President's body was put in in Dallas, arriving 
at Bethdesda Naval Hospital hours later, a routine autopsy being
performed. And that was the end of the story. That's what the
Warren Commission was told.  That's what we have been led to
believe.

In point of fact, another casket, which actually contained the body
of the President, arrived. Give us the circumstances surrounding
the arrival of that casket.  What witnesses were there to acknowledge
that another casket had arrived -- that it was not the bronze
casket -- that the President's body was not the way that it was
when it left Dallas?

DAVID LIFTON:
Now, these are two separate issues you're addressing here. One is
the condition of the body, and the other is the issue of multiple
caskets. So which would you like me to address first?

GARY NULL:
Begin with the different caskets.

DAVID LIFTON:
Okay.  What I was able to show in BEST EVIDENCE (and I obtained
reports which had not been examined. In fact, they're not even in
the National Archives, as far as the Warren Commission investigation
goes) is the report of the military casket team. In that casket 
team report (and I interviewed the men who were on the casket team)
..... Let's make sure we understand what the casket team is. These
are the pall bearers, the honor guard that met Air Force One when
it arrived on the night of November 22nd at Andrews Air Force Base.
This is a multi-service casket team consisting of Navy, Air Force,
Army and Coast Guard, and headed by a man named Lieutenant Samuel 
Byrd who subsequently died of wounds incurred in Vietnam.

These men described to me (in telephone interviews and, in one
case, in an in-person interview in the year 1967. And it's hard
to believe that it was so long ago: twenty-five years ago) what
occurred at the front of Bethesda Naval Hospital when the Navy
ambulance pulled up. That ambulance pulled up and they tried to
follow that ambulance from seven o'clock when it arrived at the
front of Bethesda until eight o'clock when they finally brought the
coffin in. There is an hour, sort of a missing time in there. Now
we can quibble over whether it's forty-five minutes, thirty-five
minutes. But there's a serious incident in there where they attempt
to follow the Navy ambulance, lose the ambulance, and are told by
their superiors that they have followed the decoy. There is a decoy
ambulance.  NONE of this made it into the Warren Commission Report.
It's ALL on my telephone interview tapes.  And the written report
says that they brought the big casket, which we all saw off-loaded
on TV, and the one that is supposed to contain the body .... they
brought that in at eight o'clock. That is their official written
report dated December (oh, I don't know) fifth or tenth, 1963.
                      (to be continued)
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      If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please
      assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards,
      and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. 
      As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty-year
      cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of 
      the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes
      ever more striking.

         John DiNardo


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