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From: olsenc@stein.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Compilation of Simple Minds?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 04:54:09 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
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Hello:

I was looking for a compilation of the above group, but I'm
not interested in "New Gold Dream" or "In the City of Light:
Live" disks.

The New Gold Dream doesn't have any of their later material
and the live disk doesn't sound very good.

If anything of the sort is available, it's most likely going
to be an import.

Please email.

-Clint
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Sony Equipment (was Re: CD walkmans)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:29:42 GMT

ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid) writes:

>    What I didn't expect is my Sony Discman D88 (about 4 years old) and it's
>starting to skip any CD's over 68 minutes.  It's losing its tracking
>mechanism.  I'm not sure what I should do, take it to repairs (cost $$$)
>or use some sort of cleaning device.  Advice?

I was having that problem with my CD player as well, a lot of discs over
65-70 minutes would mistrack like crazy.  One of those CDs with the little
lint brush on it worked for me.  At the time, some Circuit City drone told
me that really old players may have trouble with the newer 75-80 minute
discs because the laser beam is just too wide (in other words, old
technology...wouldn't you love to see some *new* players while you're
here?).  Whether this is true or just utter bullshit I have no idea, but I
did notice an article in _Popular Science_ recently noting that Sony had
passed a milestone in laser technology, creating a narrower beam that
would allow something like 2-3 hours of music on one CD...as long as the
CD player was in a room about 150 degrees below zero.  Who knows...but I'd
give the lint brush a shot first; if nothing else, it's good to brush off
the laser every once in a while anyway.

--Aaron

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From: tompy@sara.cc.utu.fi (Tom Pylkk{nen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,comp.music
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Date: 28 Dec 92 11:42:49 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

In article <1992Dec28.75115.11970@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>, jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer) writes:
> 
> I have not had this problem and would have thought that it would be
> pretty hard to do but then so would alot of all the other problems we
> are seeing reported here.  My new NIN CD says it has like 6 track on
> the case but it has 99.  Actually 7-98 are blank but 99 has a 7th song
> in it.  Most annoying as it takes quite some time to get from 6 to 99.
> Don't know if this is on purpose or if its a mistake.
> 
 Well if you have only 7 songs , it's a mistake ,because on track 98 should
also be a song.If you haven't read it before , there are 3 different releases
of that same recording.Here in Finland i have seen only one cd that included 
different stuff than one would have expected.

/ TOMPY stands for Tom Pylkk{nen            /    
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From: chancy@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Venkatraman Chandrasekaran)
Subject: CD player suggestions required
Keywords: Pioneer series, trade-ins
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:20:42 GMT


Hi Everybody

I am contemplating on buying a Pioneer CD player within the $250 range.
My choices are PD 201,501,601 and 701s. Anybody care to share their experiences
with these products. Although the 501,601 and 701s have multi-disc capability,
do they have a superior performance in comparison to a single-disc player?

I am also interested in trading-in my old Pioneer CD player, if there is some
place I can do it.

Any info regarding these would be appreciated and please e-mail all the replies
to the e-mail address given below. Thanks and have a Merry X'mas.

- chandra

 chancy@bank.ecn.purdue.edu
From: alan@ikkyu.Eng.Sun.COM (Alan Marr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: MiniDisc and DCC
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: alan@ikkyu.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikkyu

Sales of Latest Digital Music Systems Hit
Sour Notes Despite Promotional Hoopla

Wall Street Journal Dec. 21, 1992
By Patrick M. Reilly

New York - Promoted as the shining future of consumer electronics, two
new digital audio music formats are off to a slow start:  Few shoppers
want one of them, and the other is nearly impossible to find.

...

As good as the Christmas sales look, many retailers are frustrated
that, after months of hype and promotion, deliveries of Sony's vaunted
MiniDisc players have been scant and late - when they have come at
all.

...

The two formats seem likely to sell only a few thousand units
nationwide this holiday season.  DCC is available in greater supply,
but most retailers say the response to it has beeen tepid as shoppers
shy away from the high prices and unfamiliar technology.

...

(Sony apparently will be getting a little more bad news.  The March
issue of Stero Review will say that the sound quality of rival DCC
players is every bit as good as that of compact disks, but a $750 Sony
MiniDisc is only "close to CD quality", says editor Michael Riggs.)

...

In 1990 Sony introduced digital audio tape, better known as DAT, which
uses a full-fledged digital recording system.  DCC differs in that it
uses data compression methods, which eliminate certain presumably
inaudible sounds, as does MiniDisc.  But DAT has largely faltered in
the consumer market because it was never fully supported by other
hardware companies or major record labels.  In contrast, DCC has been
licensed by several hardware companies, and when it was launched in
November it had commitments for 500 prerecorded music titles from all
major labels, with the exception of Sony's Sony Music Unit.  Another
DCC advantage is that it can play the existing generation of analog
audiocassettes.

...

Mike Vitelli, a Sony senior vice president, predicts MiniDisc will have
a faster start than CD players did and forecasts sales of about 70,000
MiniDisc players of various brands in the first full year.  That would
be about twice what CD players did in 1983, their first year.

...

Sharp plans to introduce products in both formats worldwide next year,
and it may back MiniDisc and DCC alike for the potentially huge U.S.
market.

...

---

Alan.
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From: rsilvers@nynexst.com (Robert Silvers)
Subject: Re: Is high priced CD player worth the money?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:46:37 GMT

In article <2B35918E.19858@news.service.uci.edu> tao@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Eric Yihching Tao) writes:
>
>I remember some time ago in Stereo Review magazine that the sound quality
>in different CD is mininal, so a $199 changer will sound almost as good as
>any $499 ones, the feature might be less, but as far as sound goes, they
>are about the same, is this true?

	If you have good speakers, you will notice the difference.  Stereo Review
is not a good source of information.  Their only purpose is to sell lots of junk
to consumers.  My friend's CD player broke and while it was being repaired, he
hooked up his Sony portable.  The difference was amazing!  The Sony sounded like
a transistor radio!  He has really good speakers, so your mileage will vary.  I 
claim that a $500.00 (retail) casette tape player will sound better than a $199.00
CD changer.

						--Rob.
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From: gregm@koko.csustan.edu (Greg Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Date: 22 Dec 92 06:46:00 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


I've read that MD's and DCC's delete a small amount of the inputted sound
before it reaches the recording head.  5% of people can supposedly tell the
difference between CD's and (I think it was) MD's.  I'm sure DCC would be about
the same.  I would imagine this is true since record companies didn't put up
much of a fight.  This might also make using MD's for computer storage a
mistake.  I doubt if the heads are made for that exact of placement, anyway.

greg
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Wanted: Jimi Hendrix Rainbow Bridge CD
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:34:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <1992Dec21.230935.8394@ncar.ucar.edu> kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec19.190901.28946@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> jimi@ralvm5.vnet.ibm.com writes:
>>I've been looking for this CD for years... Anybody have one?
>
>I'm waiting.  My understanding is that it is not, and has not been, 
>available on CD anywhere.  Anybody know why?

I think it was Alan Douglas, or someone else who's administering all the
Hendrix tapes, who said that _RB_ wasn't a proper album and shouldn't be
reissued, etc.  The Hendrix estate seems leery of touching the pseudo-albums 
that were assembled after Hendrix' death, because so many were tampered with
and overdubbed.  As far as _RB_, I don't think it was tampered with, but it
is allegedly incomplete (still great IMHO). Then again, they're releasing 
entire boxed sets of incomplete Hendrix material... maybe some of _RB_ will
show up on future rarities compilations?  

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry
From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Genesis Questions
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:52:57 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

On Sat  2-Jan-1993  3:51a, MARC Y. WASSERMAN wrote:

MW> 1.  I bought "Invisible Touch" on CD and the sound quality seems
MW> poor.  Is this the CD itself or is the quality of this album just
MW> sort of poor on CD?  It doesn't seem to have the dynamic range
MW> of their other albums, and I swear I can hear hiss.

I didn't notice Invisible Touch to be extraordinarily bad for something that
came straight from analog (It _was_ 1986..)  The hiss is normal for a CD like
this.. I haven't played it in so long, I haven't noticed anything about it's
'dynamic range'.  Hmmm.

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From: co014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Virgil Morant)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: CD's that won't track
Date: 26 Dec 1992 01:26:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: co014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Virgil Morant)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In the last year or two that I've been collecting compact discs, this is
the second time this has happened.

I put a CD, which had worked properly in the past, into my player and
there was an unusually long pause (during the time when my player
normally reads the track information).  Then, when I tried to play the
disc, the player said, "PLAY", for a few seconds, then stopped.  When I
played with the display (which normally tells me the number of tracks
and total length of the CD), all the player showed were a bunch of
zeroes, so I assume the player failed to read the disc's tracking
information.

I intend to return the disc and get a new one, as I did when this
happened to another disc months ago, but I am wondering if anyone else
has experienced this problem with CDs.

Would anyone like to say what (might) cause this?

-- 
Virgil Thomas Alexander Morant

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From: erwin@helsinki.ks.uiuc.edu (Edgar Erwin)
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:49:47 GMT

David Elliott writes
> 
> My favorite CD "bug" is on one of the Front 242 CDs (I think it's
> "Tyranny, For You").  The last track's time is too long, so you end
> up with 11 minutes of silence after the music ends.  

Try listening to that track again.  It is not 11 minutes of silence, there are  
two extra songs in there.  Good songs, IMHO.

I found these once after listening to the album, thinking it was over, but not  
bothering to turn the CD player off.  About two minutes later the music starts  
again, as if by magic.  Quite a pleasant surprise.

Ed erwin@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Sony Equipment (was Re: CD walkmans)
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:40:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.233644.10345@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid) writes:
>kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
>
>[various working Sony stuff :]
>
>>* Sony CD player from around '85-'86, back when the experts said "The
>>lasers inside never last more than three years."  It still runs perfectly
>>today, except for a sticky door that I occasionally have to tap to get to
>>open.
>
>    What I didn't expect is my Sony Discman D88 (about 4 years old) and it's
>starting to skip any CD's over 68 minutes.  It's losing its tracking
>mechanism.  I'm not sure what I should do, take it to repairs (cost $$$)
>or use some sort of cleaning device.  Advice?

Depends on how good you are with equipment.  This is typically grime on
the rail that the laser assembly rides on.    Since the far end doesn't
get accessed as often because most disks are shorter, it gets dirty and
gummy.

Light cleaning, first, and very fine oil second - NOT WD40!!!!!!!!!



-- 
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                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
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From: bwillems@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Balam Willemsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Madness
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:19:58 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <1992Dec22.100345.18549@rdg.dec.com> ggoodman@theraj.enet.dec.com (Graham Goodman) writes:
>>Which of the two Madness compilation CD's contains the song "Our House"?
>>(If both .. which is better?)

"Our House" is on "Utter" and "Divne Madness" CDs, as well as a Geffen
compilation I have on Vinyl somewhere.

>The only Madness compilation available on CD is Divine Madness which is the best
>anyway, being both the previous compilations (Complete Madness and Utter
>Madness) together on the one album. Out of the two previous ones, Utter Madness
>has Our House, but is only available on vinyl or cassette.

Just for the record, I have seen within the pas month a number of Copies
of "Complete", "Utter" and "Divine" on CD in various Boston music
stores. I even picked up "Utter" and "Divine" for various people.
"Divine" is the best compilation IMHO for the non enthusiast, but it
does leave out some material from "Complete" and "Utter".

I also recently became aware of another set of compilations "It's
Madness" and "It's Madness Too", which on top of the singles seem to
have some back sides. These are also available on CD, although I have
only seen "Too". I'm not sure which disc "Our House" is on if either.

Of course there's always the "Madstock! - Live" compilation, but we
won't get into that....


-- 
Balam A. Willemsen
Graduate Student, Physics Dept., Northeastern Univ., Boston, MA 02115
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid)
Subject: Re: Sony Equipment (was Re: CD walkmans)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 23:36:44 GMT

kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:

[various working Sony stuff :]

>* Sony CD player from around '85-'86, back when the experts said "The
>lasers inside never last more than three years."  It still runs perfectly
>today, except for a sticky door that I occasionally have to tap to get to
>open.

    I own a Sony Sports Walkman that I bought in 1986 and it finally died
in 1991 after extensive use (tape head worned out).  I took good care of it
but I knew it's going to break down soon.

    What I didn't expect is my Sony Discman D88 (about 4 years old) and it's
starting to skip any CD's over 68 minutes.  It's losing its tracking
mechanism.  I'm not sure what I should do, take it to repairs (cost $$$)
or use some sort of cleaning device.  Advice?

>but overall, I go for Sony whenever I
>get the chance.

    I too.

>--Aaron

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From: olsenc@stein.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: New Wave:  The Europeans
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:27:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec24.092759.9411
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hello:

All of you were very helpful in finding titles and compilations,
but nobody seems to know of any CD's by the Europeans.  They have
a song called "The Animal Song."

If anyone happens to know how I could get this on CD, please
send email, or post if you think someone else may want to see the
info.

Thanks.

-Clint
From: rjb@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Ryszard Boryna)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD walkmans
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: rjb@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading

I got myself a Goodmans a couple of months back.  It's fairly chunky and has an AM/FM
radio stuffed in the lid.  It's got a 3 setting ( ON-MID-MAX ) dynamic bass boost,
program, repeat, fast forward, rewind, pause and lid lock.  I only looked at 
bottom-of-the range models and this one had the fullest sound and best spec for the
price ( 90 pounds ).  It lives on my desk and in my rucksack and hasn't given me any
trouble yet.

As far as Sony goes... I've got a Sony midi system with disc player, and that damn
thing can skip like like hell sometimes.  I don't know why but I know it isn't my
discs as they play perfectly on other players.

Good luck,

Ryszard.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: Scorpions Tokyo Tapes on CD?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:28:20 GMT

Is the Scorpions Tokyo Tapes out on CD and if so where can I get it?
I really like this album and would love to get it! Thanks!

Jeff
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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD player with variable playback speed
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:02:07 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <37174@sophia.inria.fr> glaurent@aenegada.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent) writes:
>
>
>A friend of mine told me about a CD player that could play back CDs at variable
>speed, just like some old tape recorders.

Many Denon players have had this feature (called pitch control) for a while.
You can only vary the speed a few percent plus or minus.

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From: kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: PG: _Us_ soundquality?
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:12:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C00EoB.I9p
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


I don't know if my disc is a defect or what, but _Digginng_in_the_Dirt_
sounds REALLY BAD.  Among other songs, some of the percussion and the
guitar parts sound as if they were recorded in a hole in the ground
(muffled and almost non-existing).

Could someone please tell me that it is just MY cd?  I would really like
to hear a decent mastering of _Us_.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: Pajama Slave Dancers
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:34:17 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:31:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.223911.17463@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> That Guy,
2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu writes:
>I am searching for any information on The Pajama Slave Dancers, and if
>any of their works are available on CD.
>their albums that i know of are:
>
>Blood, Sweat, and Beers
>Heavy Petting Zoo
>Full Metal Underpants

If anyone knows this information could you post it to this group?

Thanks.
--
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(Note: This message is from me, not my employer.  React accordingly.)

Always remember -  David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg)
Subject: Re: Is high priced CD player worth the money?
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:15:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.164637.13024@nynexst.com> rsilvers@nynexst.com (Robert Silvers) writes:
>In article <2B35918E.19858@news.service.uci.edu> tao@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Eric Yihching Tao) writes:
>>
>>I remember some time ago in Stereo Review magazine that the sound quality
>>in different CD is mininal, so a $199 changer will sound almost as good as
>>any $499 ones, the feature might be less, but as far as sound goes, they
>>are about the same, is this true?
>
>	If you have good speakers, you will notice the difference.  Stereo Review
>is not a good source of information.  Their only purpose is to sell lots of junk
>to consumers.  My friend's CD player broke and while it was being repaired, he
>hooked up his Sony portable.  The difference was amazing!  The Sony sounded like
>a transistor radio!  He has really good speakers, so your mileage will vary.  I 

Indeed it might.  My Sony portable has a bad DAC or something
and it distorts on certain pasages such as soft flutes.  Other
music sounds OK.  This is apparent on earphones, I've never had
it connected to anything else.

My recollection of Hirsch's comment was that any properly
operating CD player will sound about the same.  (Obviously my
portable isn't operating properly.) He also wrote that he
thought there was a slight but definite difference between
analog brick wall and oversampling, but hasn't decided which
sounds better.

In my own experience I would rate the sonic differences between
properly operating CD players as negligible compared to the differences
between different speakers, different listening rooms, and different 
speaker placements.

And now for something completely different: is there a long-play
mode on the minidisc that would allow 3-4 hours of medium quality
(possibly mono) recording?  What about changers or stackers?

Fascinating to think of a recording medium that reminds me of
the recording "chips" Spock used to get from the Computer.

How many times can an MD be rerecorded?

-- 
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From: Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert)