From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MENION LEAH)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MLB & PJ
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <QenkXrq00VB4EjaUNu@andrew.cmu.edu>, mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker) writes...
>Has anybody else on the net seen the "new" Mother Love Bone release?

I saw it the other day.
> 
>I ask this because I just saw it yesterday.  It is not a new release, it
>is merely a compilation of everything that was on _Apple_ and _Shine_. 
>Convieniently released at the same time as the height of Pearl Jam's
>fame and the success of the Temple of the dog album.  Is there anybody
>else out there who thinks this is just about the shittiest fucking thing
>that can be done to the music and lyrics of Andy Wood?  Pearl Jam gets
>brought up in this rant because of this one little convienient sticker
>on this MLB release, a sticker that informs the buying public of the
>presence of two members of Pear Jam (namely Stone Gossard and Jeff
>Ament) on this album.  I really don't think that their names could be
>used without their permission, so these two assholes are using their
>newfound fame to try to scrape a few more bucks from time when they were
>lucky enough to be in a band with someone of the genius of Andy Wood.
> 
i understand where you are coming from, but we are talking about
a compilation tape for those who first heard mlb on singles, and want
more material. this one tape costs less than apple and shine combined,
so it is really a bargain for the buyer, not a moneymaking ploy by the
producer. as for stone and jeff, let their names be on it. these two
bands are so beautiful and intense that they compliment each other, and
it is good if people that are into pearl jam get into mlb... dont be so
selfish :)

>I'd like to expand my little tirade a little further now, to encompass a
>topic which has been broached a few times on the net, and I would hope
>can be discussed further.  The topic is mainstream success, and what are
>the ramifications of it.  I don't think that there's a general concensus
>that those of use who listen to "alternative" music want to "keep it to
>ourselves" I personally am very happy that more people are getting into
>MLB, but I am a little trepidatious as to under what guise they first
>hear of MLB.  If it is as the band two guys from Pearl Jam were in, that
>in and of itself isn't bad, but my main fear (and it's a selfish one,
>I'll be the first to admit it) it the type of crowd which will be
>listening.  I don't want "Holy Roller" to lose it's satirical and social
>value and become "that cool song about buttfucking some chick" and it
>would be an utter tragedy if "Man of Golden Words" became the "one song
>that doesn't kick ass" and the victim of a million fast forward and
>advance buttons.  In other words, I'm worried about how the
>representation of MLB would be distorted by the type of assholes which
>made the pits at Lollapalooza extremely dangerous.

it happens dude, just look at nirvana. it is happening to every band
that comes from seattle. mlb was just a sleeper that came before the
rush. if bands like sanctuary and metal church(from seattle) came out
now, they would be huge. but as it is, they are still underground. dont
worry what other people think of mlb. what matters is what the music does
for you. as for the pits at lollapalooza, shit this sucks. jock assholes
are taking advantage of the pits to beat the shit out of people. i see
moshing as a comraderie thing, not a violent thing. it has gone the way
of alternative music... mainstream.

> 
>I'd like to request feedback, as I think this is a topic very much worth
>debate.

i agree, a very good topic.
-brent
> 
>thanx,
>Mike