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From: hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: "p24t" upgrades
Keywords: upgrade, P5, P24t, Zeos
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:30:02 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA

Howdy--

I'm considering getting a new 486 DX2/66, but I would like to be able to 
upgrade to the "P24t" -- the 32-bit bus version of the P5. 

Several companies (e.g., Zeos; possibly Northgate, Hyundai) offer 486's with 
ZIF sockets; at least with Zeos, the ZIF supposedly has an extra row of holes 
for the newer, larger P24t chip. 

Is this upgrade route just a marketing ploy? Has Intel given Zeos and others 
enough info to ensure that the P24t will actually function in the ZIF ... 
with/without major BIOS upgrades? Last year Zeos offered motherboards with 
"upgradable" processor modules, even for 486/33 systems. I now doubt they even 
offer a 486DX2/66 upgrade module. 

Opinions -- informed, rational or otherwise -- are welcomed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Peter J. McKinney)
Subject: Re: MAG 15" monitors - are users really happy with them?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:25 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1eiskbINN5v9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
>Subject: Re: MAG 15" monitors - are users really happy with them?
>Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:27:22 GMT
>
>In a previous article, sward+@CMU.EDU (David Reeve Sward) says:
>
>>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware: 19-Nov-92 MAG 15"
>>monitors - are user.. by root@encore.com 
>>> I'm considering getting a MAG 15" flat screen monitor.
>>[...good questions...]
>>> Thanks for your inputs.
>>
>>Please respond to the group wrt both this and the MAG 17"...
>>
>>
>I bought a mag 15h.
>
>I was so unhappy with the picture quality I returned it within a week.
>
>It was very blurry at 800x600.
>-- 

I was very unhappy with the picture quality of the Mag 15H we bought for our 
lab here.  I returned it and the next two.  All three had problems with 
focus (especially in the corners) and pin-cushioning.  They were definately 
not worth the money we were spending on them.  We settled on (and are very 
happy with) the Mag 14S.  This is the same monitor, only slightly smaller 
and with a Sony tube.  It cost us a bit *less* than the 15H would have and 
it provides a sharper, brighter image, and a blacker background (the 15H 
background was very grey and the image was not as bright as I would have 
expected from a quality monitor).  BTW, we are using a ATI Graphics Utra 
card to drive the monitor....  I hope others have had a bit better luck with 
Mag than I did, but IMHO the Mag 14S is a *much* better monitor than the 15H.

  - Pete McKinney
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| Peter J. McKinney                     pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu |
| Electrohydrodynamic Laboratory                                           |
| Fluid Mechanics and Wind Engineering Program                             |
| Civil Engineering Department                                             |
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From: robinson@sml.cs.psu.edu (Andrew Robinson)
Subject: 24 bit video with faster bus?
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:43:30 GMT

I have read that the Diamond SpeedStar 24X will not work at higher than
standard ISA bus speeds (~8 MHz).  Is this true of most 24 bit video cards?
(The reason I am asking this is because my system's bus speed is currently
set at ~16.5 MHz, and I don't want have to slow it down to add a new video
card.)
--
     -- Andy
robinson@cs.psu.edu
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From: kmart@athena.mit.edu (Jim Martin)
Subject: modem and memory problems.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:26:22 GMT


I've got two different questions about two different computers.

First, I've got a 286 PC.  I have a modem connected to COM1.  All the features of
the modem seem to work, but I don't seem to be able to receive any characters
sent from the modem.  I've tried using Windows Terminal program, Kermit, and
ProComm Plus.  Both Kermit and ProComm Plus function normally, as I can tell 
from the lights on the modem and listening to the modem speaker, but nothing
is echoed to the screen.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?

I just installed a new serial port card.  I also have a mouse bus port card
and an external floppy drive controller.  Maybe one of these is interfering
with the modem communications?  But why only the reception of characters?
Could it be an interrupt problem?



Second, I've got a 486 PC.  When it boots and attempts to load HIMEM.SYS, 
it searches the first floppy disk drive.  Because I'm booting from a hard disk,
there's usually nothing in there, so it hangs for quite a while.  Any
ideas how to fix this?

Thanks.

Jim
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From: brabo@busadm1.cba.hawaii.edu (Jan De Ryck)
Subject: large screen monitors
Summary: where to find large screen monitors
Keywords: monitor
Organization: College Business Administration, University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:48:48 GMT

I'm looking for manufacturers of large screen ( 24" and up ) monitors
that are EGA compatible. Alternatively, does anyone know of an EGA to NTSC
converter ( something small that I can bolt on to the EGA board and 
preferably takes its power from the video board ).

/Jan DE RYCK, systems engineer
College of Business Administration, Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa
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From: baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Diamond 24X vs. Stealth
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 07:59:23 EDT
Organization: Ground Zero Group, Columbus, OH 43227

young@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (young.u.huh) writes:

> Any comments on Diamond Speedstar 24X vs. the Stealth?

I recently just bought a Diamond Speedstar 24X via Mail Order (PC
Connection for $175+5 shipping) and am modestly happy with my purchase.
The Stealth is an S3 based card, were the 24X uses a Western Digital
WD9031 chip
The S3's are pretty optomized for Windows (and not much else at this
point)

> I have a 386SX/16MHz PC and would like to improve the speed
> of Windows.  On the boxes, they claim that the 24X would
> speed-up Windows by 15 times and the Stealth (which costs more)
> by 25 times.  Would the Stealth be that much faster, or would
> it be an "over-kill" on my PC?

The Windows drivers included with the 24X were complete, and seemed
very fast.  I take all claims of 15/25 etc with a grain of salt.  It
was 5 times as fast as the card it replaced.. which was a fairly cheap
Trident 8900b.  It was however a fairly decent card in retrospect, and
I would still be using it if it had been HiColor or 24-bit color.

I would spend the money on a faster motherboard.

> Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Addition piece of information, I'm searching for what seems to be
non-existant drivers for the 24X for OS/2 2.0 (GA+SP).  If you have the
desire to dump Windows and use OS/2.. check for driver availablity
before you buy ANYTHING.
I personally, love the card.  It was simple to install, it worked the
first time (in DOS and Windows.. its crippled in OS/2 due to no SVGA
driver) and was very fast in every test.  Depending on how good (or
bad) your currently video card is.. Go for the motherboard, or a nice
generic TSENG ET-4000 card.  ($100 class w/1M)
Anyway.. I'm more of an OS/2 person than Windows.. and I avoid S3's for
that very reason.. They have been very ugly about wanting to write
drivers, so I took my money elsewhere.  (Western Digital chips)
baustin
From: general_user@uk.ac.uea.sys
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: My IDE drive is slower than it should be
Keywords: IDE Slow
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:20:42 GMT
Organization: School of Information Systems



	I just bought a new system from seperate parts, a 486SX 25MHz, and I 
can't get my hard disk to work properly, for some reason it insists to run 
at a transfere rate of 400K/Sec when the manual says it should be running at 
nearer 1500K/Sec. What am I doing wrong? The bus speed is set correctly and 
so is everything else; as far as I can tell. The drive is a samsung 120 Mb 
is this the root of my problems, several people have told me there 
unreliable and it was cheap. Somebody please help me.

B.Frank@UEA.AC.UK

Thank you.
From: rohrernl@helix.nih.gov (Nathan Rohrer)
Subject: Re: Erratic "Disk Boot Failure" - what should I do?
Organization: National Eye Institute, National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:42:11 GMT

In article <1edpi4INNetc@crcnis1.unl.edu> leo@hoss.unl.edu (Leo Chouinard) writes:

>I've got a 3 year old clone (386SX, AMI BIOS, 2MB RAM, DOS 3.3) at home with
>a 40 MB hard drive.  Last week I added an Infotel 14.4k internal modem and
>the Quick Link II software that came with it.  (The only other other
>change I've made lately is to install F-Prot 2.06a anti-virus software.)
>Suddenly, I'm getting sporadic "Disk Boot Failure" errors rebooting from
>my hard drive.  What really has me concerned is that they appear to be
>increasing in frequency - when they started, they seemed to happen exactly
>every other boot, but this morning I had three failures in a row before I
>was able to boot successfully.

>Is this some weird incompatibility problem, or does it mean that my hard
>disk just happened to start dying at about the same time I installed the
>modem?  Is there anything to be done significantly cheaper than buying a
>new hard drive?  All ideas/suggestions/information welcome!
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>                       Save the humans _and_ the whales.

You could try a low-level formatter like Spinrite or you could do your own 
low-level format (backing up in both cases of course).  You might try 
copying the system files to the hard drive from a bootable floppy (make sure 
you have the correct version of DOS), see the SYS command in your DOS 
manual.  If you use the SYS command be sure to copy COMMAND.COM as well if 
you have a DOS ver < 5.0.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Subject: Re: ---> I Need Advice on Upgrading from 386-33DX to 486DX.  Also SEX!
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:10:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.041557.16424@zeos.com> kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:
=>5) Will the 586 be out soon that maybe I should wait?
=
=The Pentium will be released sometime in 93. I wouldn't wait for it.

I missed the thread on the Pentium. What's it going to be like,
architecturally? 64-bit data bus? ??

Is anyone building a motherboard today that will take advantage of the
Pentium? Can any of today's systems be upgraded to one? And, what's a P24?

Thanks,
Pete
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: hyunk@seas.smu.edu (Hyun Cheul Kim)
Subject: Maxtor 213MB HD Problem
Followup-To: hyunk@seas.smu.edu
Summary: Maxtor 213MB HD Problem
Keywords: MAXTOR 213MB HD
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:57:25 GMT

Hello.
Recently I upgraded my computer with maxtor 213 HD.
I was happy with it until a couple of days ago,
I noticed that it makes scratching noise and get stuck for a while and 
resume operation.
It does this once in a while but I don't see any bad sectors and
using Norton Utility, there is no media error on the drive.
However, I get really lousy average access time with NORTON sysinfo
something like 80ms! 
Is this normal?
Thank you.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.modems
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: fax/phone switch
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:24:46 GMT

In article <22274@drutx.ATT.COM> dfh@dwroll.att.com writes:
>From article <oqByTB1w165w@halcyon.com>, by puma@halcyon.com (puma):
>One statement in the ad made me a bit leary.  It was talking about
>using the answering machine.  It said something to the effect of:
>"You just leave 3-4 seconds of silence at the start of your answering
>machine message ..."  It sounds like the fax switch may tend to get
>confused when trying to pick out fax tone mixed with conversation.
>Does this also mean that when you answer the phone you must wait
>3-4 seconds before saying "hello"?  If so, the thing's not very
>useful in my opinion.

That's it.  These suck, and do not switch reliably.  For My app, I have
a modem on the phone and fax on the fax port, so the modem must pick up
after 2 or 3 rings if a fax tone is not detected.  These type of
switches to not work at all for my configuration.
-- 
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Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
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From: aroest@fwi.uva.nl (Axello de Roestello)
Subject: Conner CP 3044 HD problem, docs anyone?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:00:59 GMT


Hi there,

I have just come into posession of three Conner CP 3044 harddisk
drives. These are slightly defective in the following way:

Installing them in my system makes the harddisk drive led on my
system case burn continually.

After turning on the computer hangs at the message "Press <DEL> to run
setup". Pressing the reset button restarts the machine and this time
without trouble and with 40 MB of extra diskspace. 

I have heard that these drives need a modification somewhere on the
controler. Can somebody out there tell me what modification????

Oh, yes. I use a clone 386 PC and have no access to news accept
through my friend. Please mail him.


Bye
Mattijs
axel@phys.uva.nl


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jre@zeos.com (Jim Erickson)
Subject: Re: IDE And SCSI with a Twist
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:45:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.214821.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>In article <wo.721679811@rio70>, wo@rio70.snibln.de (Wolfgang Kalthoff) writes:
>> storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
>> 
>>>I am considering mixing a SCSI drive in with my IDE drive sometime in the
>>>near future.  However, I want to make sure that the 340MB IDE is still the
>>>drive that boots the system, and ends up as the C: drive.
>>>Can I add a SCSI Controller, tack a 200MB SCSI drive onto it, and still keep
>>>the IDE drive as the primary one.
>
>
>>>How would one go about entering that into the BIOS...?  (I seem to recall that
>>>SCSI drives aren't entered into the BIOS or something like that !)
>> 
>> Simply plug in the controller and the drive. That's all!!
>> 
>
>Not quite so easy as that.. If you want the SCSI drive to be a secondary
>drive, you have to disable the bios on the SCSI controller. (At least in the
>adaptec), then load a couple of device drivers  ASPI4DOS and another that
>I forget (I'm at home and my documentation is at the office). You don't have
>to put anything in the BIOS. But it does work fine. 

   The Adaptec 1542B controller will automatically set itself up as the
secondary HDD controller if it sees an IDE drive out there. There is no need
to disable the BIOS it most cases and the ASPI drivers are only needed if:
1)you have two IDE drives so the SCSI has to set up as e: or later, 2)you
have two (or more) SCSI drives so one of them must set up as e: or later,
3)you want to avoid using Smartdrive's double buffering (a good reason), or
4) you may need it if you have devices other than HDDs attached to the
Adaptec.
   I have set up this controller alone, and with both one and two IDE drives
in a system (1 SCSI drive). It was plug-n-play except that the ASPI drivers
needed to be loaded for the dual IDE setup.

---JRE---
 

>
>Make sure that when you purchase the SCSI controller, you get the version that
>comes with the device drivers (Adaptec kits them separately, so that the
>controller can be purchased with or without drivers).
>
>
>>>I've been looking at the UltraStor 14F, but there is also the possibility
>>>of picking up an Adaptec.
>
>Pick up the Adaptec 1542B-K (the -k is the "kit" with the device driver
>software). It's pretty much the 'standard'.


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From: daniel.campbell@cccbbs.UUCP (Daniel Campbell) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: OVERHEATING?
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:21:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: daniel.campbell@cccbbs.UUCP (Daniel Campbell) 

-> My 386SX/20 system has been crashing in unrepeatable ways recently
-> and the pattern suggests something is overheating.  Here's a detailed
It may be a power supply problem. You say the problem occurs most when
reading or writing to the HD, well thats when the added draw on the PS
would cause the voltage to drop to critical conditions. Thus causing the
malfunctions. My first thought is reduce any un-necessary loads, a
second HD for example to see if it makes a difference. Try disconnecting
the HD, if the only one, and run programs from floppies and see if the
problem re-occurs.
From: akula@ecst.csuchico.edu (Kuo Han Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HELP ! Can't Put Video Cards in 16-bit slots
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:43:27 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

My first video card, an OAK VGA with 256K, worked just fine for me. After
collecting some $ I got a new one, also an OAK, but with 1 MB on board. This
one can only be put in 8-bit slots. When I plug it into any of the 16-bit
slots, nothing happened when I switched on the power. Now I got another
board, an ET-4000 with high-color, the same problem occured again. Ok, I've
RTFMed and set every jumper on the 'correct' position but still got the
same result. Strange enough, my oldest video card works perfectly either
in 16-bit or 8-bit slots.(of course, the 8/16-bit jumper on this board was
set to its correcponding position before insert it in 8/16 bit slots)

My system is a 386/Dx-25, with 8MB RAM, AMI bios dated April 90. Could anybody
helps me out of this ? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Kuo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: SCSI & Transfer Rates
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:06:23 GMT

Presently I have an adaptec 1542B and a Quantum Pro Drive 240 
S.  I've seen in the Computer Paper that the Quantum Pro Drive 
with it's 4300 rpms as opposed to 3600 rpms of standard HD's 
as well as it's 256K Segmented Read/Write Cache is supposed to 
give me hard drive transfer rates up to 3.8 MBs per second.  
The adaptec 1542B with it's bus mastering DMA access is 
supposed to do up to 5MBs per second too isn't it?
 
My bios version is 3.10 and my ASPI4dos is version 3.0.  
PCtools and Norton Utilites report hard drive transfer rates 
of only around 1175 K per second.  What's wrong?
 
Also does a SCSI II controller that has the capability to 
burst up to 10MB per second have to be used on a SCSI II hard 
drive to achieve these rates?  I'm wondering because I 
currently have an UltraStor 34F VL-BUS SCSI II controller on 
order and I wanted to use it with my Quantum 240S Pro Drive.
 
Any helpful information will be appreciated.


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From: chiang@cs.uiuc.edu (Sam. H.K. Chiang)
Subject: Infor: Sampon 14" AlphaScan plus
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:00:05 GMT


Does anyone have any experience with Sampo's monitor series, especially with
14" AlphaScan plus, and 15" AlphaScan Hi-Res.

Thanks for any infor.

Sam.
-- 


+---------------------------------------------------------+
+ Sam. H.K. Chiang					  +
+ Departmento of Computer Science, University of Illinois +
+ e-mal : chiang@cs.uiuc.edu				  +
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From: tim@boxhill.com (Timothy Jones)
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 and ATI Technologies - The scoop
Organization: Box Hill Systems Corporation, New York, NY
	<1992Nov21.030352.8031@utkux1.utk.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:53:39 GMT

On Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:03:52 GMT, harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp) said:

> the Ultra Pro controller and ships one that doesn't meet specs.  If it
> comes to it, we will ship the system back and buy one the has the upgraded
> card from Gateway for the same price.

I agree with you that they should provide the RAMDAC for free, since they
advertised conflicting specs, but I think that you'd end up paying an extra
$200 or so in additional shipping charges (depending on where you're located).
I'm sure the money-back guarantee doesn't include shipping.

Since the extra meg of VRAM and the RAMDAC cost $125, and VRAM goes for
~$100/meg, I figure the RAMDAC is costing ~$25, which is much less than $200.

It's possible that the money-back guarantee could be excersied on the video
card only, but since it's bundled with the system, I'm not sure.  Personally,
I'm willing to purchase the video upgrade since I want the extra VRAM and it's
worth $25 for the RAMDAC as long as I can be done with this once and for all.
This whole experience sure has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Tim
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