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From: rcw@pt.com (Ray Ward)
Subject: CAM Questions (Sorry if FAQ)
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:32:49 GMT


I'm sorry if these questions are FAQ, I am new to CAM.

1)  Is it true that the array of CAM_EDT_ENTRY's is owned by XPT?  If
    this is true, who has access to it and how do they access it?

2)  Does the above table give any indication of the path_id's of the
    devices?  If so, how does the Peripheral Driver know what devices
    are where?

3)  Is the following information true, and if not could you please
    indicate what I am missing?

    Peripheral Driver Routines
    ==========================

      OSD Specific


    XPT Routines
    ============

      Accessed By the Peripheral Driver
      ---------------------------------
      long xpt_init();
      CCB *xpt_ccb_alloc();
      void xpt_ccb_free(CCB *);
      long xpt_action(CCB *);


      Accessed By the SIM
      -------------------
      long xpt_bus_register(CAM_SIM_ENTRY *);
      long xpt_bus_deregister(path_id);
      void xpt_async(opcode, path_id, lun, buffer_ptr, data_cnt);

    SIM Routines
    ============

      Accessed By the XPT
      -------------------
      long sim_init(pathid);
      long sim_action(CCB *);

    The above is what I beleive the CAM specification is telling me.

Thanks for any response.  Please e-mail this as I don't beleive everyone
would be interested in it.

-- 
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From: hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: The BEST SCSI adapter?
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:37:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hello:

I am in need of some information about a few different SCSI
controllers.  More precisely, I am looking for a controller to host my
Rodime 210MB drive that will give transfer rates of at least 2MB/sec.
Currently, I am using a basic Future Domain adapter that is providing
879KB/sec under DOS.  Since a great deal of my work is done in Win
3.1, and eventually OS/2 when it support win3.1 apps, a high transfer
rate significantly improves the handling of large windows files, and
especially the virtual memory.

One of the boards I am considering is the Always IN2000.  If someone
could provide me some info, specs, and comparisons I would be very
thankful.  Since I am not locked in to one particular mfg., any
suggestions will be valued--so long as they include a reference to the
real world throughput of the adapter (I am not interested in the
theoretical). 

Thanks and Merry Christmas,

Roy F. Hardgrove
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Adaptec ASW-410 upgrade offer?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:51:35 GMT

mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>In <wkulecz-151292082329@nl-wkulecz.jsc.nasa.gov> wkulecz@life.jsc.nasa.gov (Walter B. Kulecz, Ph.D) writes:

>>Does anyone know four sure about the alledged ASW-410 (or is it ASW-1410)
>>upgrade where you send the cover from the manual and $xx and get ASPI
>>drivers that support CRROM?

>It is fact.  [...] It is an upgrade to EITHER the ASW-1410 (which is what I
>intend to upgrade, since I don't have ASW-410) or ASW-410 (and if you
>have that, you must have ASW-1410, right?).  So far as I can tell, you
>can still buy ASW-410 (the Adaptec driver set, which includes
>CD-ROM and some other stuff, I think) and ASW-510 (the Corel SCSI
>driver set, which includes CD-ROM, etc.).

>The update includes the latest versions of ASPIEDOS/ASPI4DOS (3.1),
>whatever the latest version of the other stuff on ASW-1410 are
>(AFDISK, ASPIDISK), CD-ROM drivers (both the data driver and an audio
>play utility, from what I understand, but the CD driver itself is
>definitely there), and an 'easy install' installation driver.  The
>update costs $29 (check payable to Adaptec) and takes the cover off
>your current drivers or one of the ORIGINAL disks.  

Is this supposed to be an upgrade to the current version of the software,
or is this a distinct product from ASW-1410?  Putting it another way,
if someone buys a new copy of ASW-1410 will the new code be there, or
must you buy this new package to get the code?

Joe Morris
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: phan@gla.ecoledoc.ibp.fr (Eric Phan-Kim)
Subject: Format.dat for Micropolis 1578
Reply-To: phan@gla.ecoledoc.ibp.fr (Eric Phan-Kim)
Organization: Universite Pierre & Marie Curie Paris 6
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:34:22 GMT

	I need a format.dat for an old Micropolis 1578 to connect it on my Sparc IPC.
	Can somebody help me ?
From: goldenj@nic.csu.net
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Formating an IBM 0663 on a Mac?
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:27:14 PST
Organization: Information Resources and Technology

We are trying to add an IBM 0663 drive to our Mac server. The disk formating
software we tried all failed to recognize the drive when the 1st jumper is 
in place. When the jumper is removed the software recognizes the drive and
reports the drive info but the drive will not spin up. We were told that the
1st jumper is used to control spin-up of the drive. Does anyone have any
information on this Drive and how to get it formated on a Mac?
----
Jim Golden                    goldenj@nic.csu.net
Chancellor's Office 
California State University

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: mwm@hasler.ascom.ch (Mike McGann %7817)
Subject: exebyte 8mm errors
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG, Berne, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:09:47 GMT

We backup lots of systems to exebyte 8mm tape. While reading
back a tape I hit a read error. I could find no way to get past 
it to get to the next file. Can it be done on an exebyte 8500?

mike
mwm@hasler.ascom.ch
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: quix@panix.com (George Papadopoulos)
Subject: 25pin external to 50 pin internal-where?
Summary: Purchasing SCSI cables
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:09:50 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Hello,
	I was wondering if it is possible to hook an external 25 pin adapter to
an 50 pin internal device.   I have a external 25 pin scsi port , but a 50 
internal device.  
	I need to know is there any place the sells cheap scsi adapters of 
this and other kinds.  I am not into cable making, unless it is viable.
					Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: ohumukin@spectra.com (Kawika Ohumukini)
Subject: 1542B specifications
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:59:42 GMT

Hi,

I was going to wait but my access to the network will be terminating
soon. 

Does anyone have the specs on the Adaptec 1542B (The card of choice,
it appears, of most people)?

Are there comparable cards available?

Does it support a floppy or do I need another card?

What is the difference between SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 functionally?
Performance?

Does the 1542B really work with > 1GB drives (under DOS 5.0)?
2GB?

Recommendations:

2 x 1.2GB drives?
1 x 2.0GB drive?

Manufacturer/Model?


Thanks for email-ing a response!

Kawika 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Adaptec ASW-410 upgrade offer?
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:22:36 GMT

In <jcmorris.724524695@mwunix> jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:

>mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>In <wkulecz-151292082329@nl-wkulecz.jsc.nasa.gov> wkulecz@life.jsc.nasa.gov (Walter B. Kulecz, Ph.D) writes:

>>>Does anyone know four sure about the alledged ASW-410 (or is it ASW-1410)
>>>upgrade where you send the cover from the manual and $xx and get ASPI
>>>drivers that support CRROM?

>>It is fact.  [...] It is an upgrade to EITHER the ASW-1410 (which is what I
>>intend to upgrade, since I don't have ASW-410) or ASW-410 (and if you
>>have that, you must have ASW-1410, right?).  So far as I can tell, you
>>can still buy ASW-410 (the Adaptec driver set, which includes
>>CD-ROM and some other stuff, I think) and ASW-510 (the Corel SCSI
>>driver set, which includes CD-ROM, etc.).

>>The update includes the latest versions of ASPIEDOS/ASPI4DOS (3.1),
>>whatever the latest version of the other stuff on ASW-1410 are
>>(AFDISK, ASPIDISK), CD-ROM drivers (both the data driver and an audio
>>play utility, from what I understand, but the CD driver itself is
>>definitely there), and an 'easy install' installation driver.  The
>>update costs $29 (check payable to Adaptec) and takes the cover off
>>your current drivers or one of the ORIGINAL disks.  

>Is this supposed to be an upgrade to the current version of the software,
>or is this a distinct product from ASW-1410?  Putting it another way,
>if someone buys a new copy of ASW-1410 will the new code be there, or
>must you buy this new package to get the code?

From what I understand, this is a distinct product.  However, I think
they may be dropping ASW-1410 in favor of EZ-SCSI.  However, the
ASW-1410 is the old code, so far as I could tell.

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From: dunguyen@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: The BEST SCSI adapter?
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:54:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.230646.19190@stiatl.salestech.com>, rknight@stiatl.salestech.com (Ray Knight) writes:
> hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove) writes:
> 
> 
>>Hello:
> 
>>I am in need of some information about a few different SCSI
>>controllers.  More precisely, I am looking for a controller to host my
>>Rodime 210MB drive that will give transfer rates of at least 2MB/sec.
>>Currently, I am using a basic Future Domain adapter that is providing
>>879KB/sec under DOS.  Since a great deal of my work is done in Win
>>3.1, and eventually OS/2 when it support win3.1 apps, a high transfer
>>rate significantly improves the handling of large windows files, and
>>especially the virtual memory.
> 
>>One of the boards I am considering is the Always IN2000.  If someone
>>could provide me some info, specs, and comparisons I would be very
>>thankful.  Since I am not locked in to one particular mfg., any
>>suggestions will be valued--so long as they include a reference to the
>>real world throughput of the adapter (I am not interested in the
>>theoretical). 
> 
>>Thanks and Merry Christmas,
> 
> If you are going to use OS/2 the Always IN2000 is not a great choice for performance as in uses the generic INT13 driver.  Always Technologies has been saying for the last 6 months that Columbia Data Products is developing an OS/2 driver for them, but i

> 
> Ray Knight 
That's not true about the Always OS/2 driver not being developed.
I just downloaded the Beta version from their BBS along with the
dos ASPI and CD-ROM drivers.  I haven't tried the OS/2 driver yet,
but they are working on it.  It's a great board if you ask me.
I just had the Prom chips upgraded, and it seemed to work even
faster now with my 2 Quantum drives.
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.scsi:6000 comp.periphs:1650
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.periphs
Subject: Re: SOmebody here must know: How to Low Level Format SCSI Drive?
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:33:03 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: Archive SC499, Archive 9045L

sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) writes:
>	I am trying to low level format an MFM hard drive interfaced
>to my Future Domain SCSI host adapter via an Adaptec ACB-4000 SCSI-MFM
>controller board. I have the Future Domain software that allows
>low level formatting of SCSI drives. 

	Your first and perhaps last mistake is using the SCSI->st506 board.
It's ANCIENT, doesn't follow the spec, isn't CCS let alone SCSI-2 compatible
(though I think it's close to CCS excluding Mode Select and Mode Sense).  I
don't think it's very fast, either.

>	The software properly finds a SCSI ID 0 LUN 0 drive 
>and proceeds to try to read capacity information from
>the drive and fails to find it, of course, since my MFM hard drive has
>never been used as a SCSI drive before.

	You have to do a very very very non-standard Mode Select before doing
the Format Unit.  Get the Adaptec manual, and find some way to send an
arbitrary SCSI command.

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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: drog@cray.com (Dan Drogichen)
Subject: Forced Perfect Termination ?
Followup-To: (email) drog@cray.com
Summary: Request for pointer to info.
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:36:16 GMT

Could someone please send me a pointer to an ftp-able description
of the termination scheme I _think_ is called 'Forced Perfect
Termination'. I recollect it originated at IBM a couple of years ago.

email to drog@cray.com

Thanks
-Dan Drogichen

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From: EP.MXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Maurice Green)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542B and Windows
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:47:19 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Dec16.210026.27465@netcom.com>,
gasman1@netcom.com (David A. Silva) writes:
>
>Well, another problem has surfaced since installing a new SCSI drive.
>Summary is I have an Adaptec 1542B and a DAT drive with not problem.
>Yesterday I added a Tosh MK538FB drive to the system. Windows will not
>run except in VGA mode ( I am using an ATI Ultra Pro - even the 8514
>driver does not work ). Normally i use qemm, however even if I strip to
>a simple config.sys and use himem.sys as the only memory manager,
>windows still crashes immediately on loading. I have tried so far:
>EMMExclude in system.ini = A000-DFFF ( the Ultra uses C000-C7ff and the
>Adaptec is using DC00 ), SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER in config.sys, I
>also load aspi4dos.sys as the first device in config.sys ( I have tried
>both with and without the /v option. Also tried a fresh install of
>windows to a new directory. Any other ideas? Thanx - David

FYI..Sounds like the problem I had when I first installed my 1542B
with a Quantum LPS240S drive..Windows would start to load (the
Microsoft Flag logo appeared) and then give me a "serious disk
error" message.  According to Microsoft Tech support the problem was
with SmartDrive caching...It is necessary to "preload" the buffer.
In the CONFIG.SYS file you need "SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER+". The
"+" preloads the cache. Hope this helps.
From: torrunes@idt.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: 2,5" harddisk cables? WHERE??
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:59:21 GMT
Reply-To: torrunes@idt.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

What should be an easy task, turned out not to be....

Does anyone know where to get 44-pin (IDE) cables for 2,5" harddisks??
50-pin SCSI might do to, since I presume the pin spacing is the
same.(?)

Any suggestions???

- Tor Rune
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From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Searching info about TapeStreamer
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:27:52 GMT+1
Distribution: comp
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

Who can give me some (all?) information about an old TapeStreamer, i
have a few months ago, without any documentation.

The TapeStreamer itself, is regarding the label on the back, an
TandBerg 3330.  It has a 34-pins connector, which is connected to an
interface board underneath.

This interface board (G4921?) is from Emulex Corporation, and has an
50-way (SCSI?) connector on it.  Further, it contains among others, 2
LED's (Led1, Led2), 1 Switch-Block (8 dips).  On a few chips, there
are some labels.

On U16, it says:                                
                                                
 Top Assy: MT0310201-00b  S/N: G4921            
 Sub Assy: G4921  A                             
                                                
U17 says:   a barcode, and  G4921               
                                                
U2 (EPROM) says:   a25b (Checksum)              
                                        
U19 is, for me (?) the SCSI-controller (but maybe i'm wrong), it's an
IC of NCR/5385
      C251854                           
      6-1082066                         

The part-number of the interface is: ASSY MW0310401 rev. A

I just wanted to know (if possible, available) what are the possible
DIP-Switch setttings, on the interface and the streamer.  And if the
sockets U5 and U41 are for termination purposes (if so, which
terminators should/can i use)?

If someone can give me some info, i certainly appreciate it!  (Any
help/info is welcome). (EMail preferred)

Thank you!

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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Vega 3-486 System Board/Ultrastor 14F SCSI Host Adapter (ISA)
Summary: Compatibility
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 18:15:20 PST
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA


   I recently received my *second* Ultrastor 14F SCSI adapter, but am
getting exactly the same results I was getting with the first board.  This
new board is a Rev C and the first one was a Rev B.

   The system board I have is the convertable board that Computer and Control
Solutions sells. I'll be calling CCSI on Mondy if I don't get positive feedback
from folks here before then.  I really like this system board and won't
part with it since it will eventually be dedicated just to my BBS as soon
as I finish building my second system.  Ultrastor hasn't been much help at
all so far and I have the latest USPI driver for MS-DOS.

   My system still locks up sometimes during both reads from and writes to
disk (a Maxstor LXT213SY and a Maxstor LXT340SY).  I also have an Archive
Viper 2150 tape drive at the end of the chain.

   Everything is terminated correctly and I don't have *any* I/O address
or IRQ conflicts in my system.  The only change I have to make to the 14F's
jumper settings is to select a different I/O address since my MIDI interface
is on 330 and that's the default for the 14F.

   I am starting to wonder if my system board even supports bus mastering,
which is the default setup for the 14F, at all.  I didn't purchase the 14F
to run it in the slower WD1003 mode, and would really hate to have to
resort to that (but will if I absolutely must - already know it works or at
least it seems to).

   My Always Technology (non-bus mastering) SCSI adapter works wonderfully
with everything I currently have here but is not supported by Linux (which
is why I got the 14F).

   Does anyone have any idea what might be the problem here?  I've tried as
many different I/O address and IRQ conbinations on the 14F that I can think
of (and some just don't work at all, causing my system not to boot).  Any
assistance will be appreciated.  I *really* like the 14F and am planning to
keep it for my second system even if it won't work in my 386/40.  I'd
really like to see it work reliably in the BBS machine though because I
don't plan to purchase another ISA system board - I'm going to an EISA 50
Mhz 80486DX for my second system.

   Thanks in advance!

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From: "peter gottlieb" <peter.gottlieb@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: 1542b on fast bus
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:36:47 EST
Reply-To: "peter gottlieb" <peter.gottlieb@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

DB>I have a ST1196N hard disk on an Adaptec 1542b that resets occassionally,
DB>especially in the presence of protracted (bus) mouse or rs232 activity.
DB>This did not happen with the slower system.  I have tried restrapping
DB>the 1542b DMA speeds to no effect (8MB/s works, btw), and enabled the
DB>IOCHRDY option, but the resets still occur.

I too have noticed an interaction between heavy (serial) mouse activity
and disk operations on the 1542b.  No tech support people at Symantec,
Adaptec, or Microsoft have any clue as to the cause.  Perhaps it is due
to the way the 1542b takes control of the bus?

Be really careful running the 1542b faster than 8 MHz bus speed.  I found
there were intermittent problems when I ran mine at 10 MHz.  Also, be sure
to run the 1542b BIOS DMA test loop overnight if you want to attempt any
speeds faster than 5.0 MB/sec; the higher speeds may SEEM to work, but
actually are right on the edge, and may drift over the edge and mung a
transfer right at the most inopportune moment...

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Xref: sparky comp.periphs.scsi:6075 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:33216
From: thomas@plxsun (Thomas Leibold)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI->QIC02 adapter -- where can I get one
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:23:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

From three such controllers that I know, the Emulex MT02 seems to be the more
popular one (I have seen it used by different manufacturers). The other two
are NCR Spider and Archive SAC (don't remember model#). 
If you stick to the SCSI CCS these controllers are pretty much interchangeable.

I don't no about suppliers and prices.

Thomas

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From: edwong@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (Edward Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: SCSI hard drive in external case
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:43:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA

Is there anything bad for a internal SCSI hard disk to put in an external
case?  I want to get a SCSI hard disk but I am running out of space in my
desktop case, and I don't want to bother changing to a tower case.  I read
from computer shopper, there are quite a few mail order company that sells
external SCSI device cases.  I wonder if anyone has one or has seen one,
please comment on it.  
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