From: tse@loonybin.apple.com (Gary Tse)
Subject: Re: Keeping in mind that this is AmeriKKKa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:30:47 GMT
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Organization: Raoul Duke School of Pharmacology and Journalism
Keywords: knock

In article <1992Jul24.012847.19203@oakhill.sps.mot.com> jpak@manute.sps.mot.com writes:
|In article <23JUL199218205901@vxcrna.cern.ch> ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes:
|>Epilogue and moral of Judy's story:
|>                                          Heritage of Americans
|>Work with whomever you want to         -- Asian, European, African, Aboriginal
|>Make friends with whomever you want to -- Asian, European, African, Aboriginal
|>Have lovers with whomever you want to  -- Asian, European, African, Aboriginal
|>But marry                              -- Asian,         , African, Aboriginal
|
|
|OK, even if I make the **ASSUMPTION** that that is what Judy was saying (and
|I'm being very generous to you here)

No need to be generous.

In <11u0u0INN1is@agate.berkeley.edu> judyy@ocf.berkeley.edu wrote:
#To put it bluntly, I approve of Asian Am/African Am relationships more 
#than I do Asian Am/White relationships. 

To be fair, judyy has not given her approval of Asian/Aboriginal 
relationships, so ikeda is being presumptuous there.

| [variations of the above matrix deleted]
|
|><sarcasm mode off>
|>
|>Sorry, but I believe it is best not to take race into consideration
|>when choosing your partner.
|
|OK, then I've made it real easy for you.  Now you can knock every other
|intertwined pattern I've shown above that has "missing elements" in it.
|You can knock 2, 3, and 4, [these refer to the different discrination 
|matrices I have deleted] which I'll bet covers a surprisingly large
|chunk of the people I've encountered in my life, and probably many others,
|too.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if at least half of this newsgroup
|thinks this way.  Well, are you going to do it?

I will.  It is racist to disqualify anyone as a potential co-worker, 
friend, or mate on the basis of that person's race.  

|What I sincerely don't understand is that I'm sure every one of us has come
|across people in our every-day lives who have "missing elements" in their
|own personal "chart," including and especially ourselves, and yet it seems
|the bulk of the criticism I hear here is only for the very first one shown
|above, the one Makoto mentioned.  

Nope.  In fact, I was just in a rather protracted discussion against
racial preference in people's selection of a mate.  Against preference 
for mates of *any* race, mind you.

Checking my archives, James had written in 
<1992Jun25.053518.2424@oakhill.sps.mot.com>:
#As for you, Gary, do you ever want to talk about anything else here except
#trying to accuse everybody else of racism?  

Selective amnesia?

|In particular, few people here want to say
|a word about Profiles 2, 3, and 4, and let me tell you, 2, 3, and 4 are a
|heck of a lot more common in my experience than 1.  Where's the criticism
|for it?  Or is it just that it's beyond criticism because it's so common,
|whereas 1 is rather unusual.  Is that why?

Nope.  All those different forms are discriminatiory and racist.  In 
fact, whenever the discussion allows it, I try to make my complaints 
of racism general.

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