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From: gonzalez@athena.mit.edu (John R Gonzalez)
Subject: Starbridge Chronicles
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:43:21 GMT

I was wondering if anyone on this newgroup has read Paul Park's books.  I
recently finished The Cult of Loving Kindness and wondered what you all thought
about it.


						J. Gonzalez
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From: agc@bmdhh286.bnr.ca (Alan Carter)
Subject: Re: Brunner (was Re: _Islands_in_the_Net_)
Organization: BNR-Europe-Limited, Maidenhead, England
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 13:39:18 GMT

In article <1dc00iINNbn9@agate.berkeley.edu>, curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov5.161342.422@math.ucla.edu> dstein@vesta.math.ucla.edu (David Stein) writes:
|> >
|> >   Have you read "Universe" by RAH?  Give it a try and tell me if the 
|> >   idea behind the story had nothing to do with the story being
|> >   (presumably) a good read.
|> 
|> I'm not an RAH fan, but in my (wayward) youth I read most all of
|> his stuff; presumably that was among them.  But I can't place
|> it by the title.

Perhaps this is "Expanded Universe"? If so, it is a major re-working of
his much earlier "Worlds Of Robert Heinlein". It is about 3 times the size.
It was only published a couple of years before his death.

   Alan

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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Stephen Brust's best
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:12:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: kakwa.1992Nov10.041256.28177
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
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Ian Sutherland (ian@nasser.eecs.nwu.edu) wrote:
: I'd be interested to hear how many people feel that the Vlad Taltos
: books represent Brust's best.  I'd say that "To Reign in Hell" is his
: best by quite a long shot.

I liked "To Reign In Hell", but I think it's a three-way tie between "Jhereg",
"Cowboy Feng's Space Bar & Grille", and "The Sun, The Moon And The Stars" for
my favourite Brust book.  Haven't read "The Gypsy" or "The Phoenix Guards" yet,
tho.

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From: bjones@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Subject: Re: Tim Powers
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:05:00 GMT

In article <al.721070439@iris> al@iris.claremont.edu (Aotearoa) writes:
>rwilley@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Hrothgar) writes:
>
>>From memory i can recall the following books by Powers
>
>>	The Drawing of the Dark
>>	The Anubis Gates
>>	Dinner at Deviant's Place
>>	The Stress of Her Regard
>>	The Last Call
>
>Add _On Stranger Tides_, and I think you've got the lot.  Each is
>indeed great and unique.
>
Don't forget _Epitaph in Rust_, even though it's pretty forgettable in
both editions.

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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Subject: News on Vol 5 of THE DEATH GATE CYCLE ??
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:58:01 GMT


Am I just being impatient, or does it really seem like it has
been an unusually long interval since the last entry in The 
Death Gate Cycle (Weis & Hickman) came out? I have the first three
in paperback, and it's been a while since the fourth (I don't
remember the name right now) came out in hardback. It might not
have been a long wait compared to Stephen King, for example, but
Weis and Hickman usually put things out pretty rapidly once they
get going.

Any word on a paperback version of Vol 4 or a release date for
Vol 5??
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From: bell@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: John Norman movie(was Re:Sharon Green)
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:28:05 GMT

In article <2B029C55@ssd0.laafb.af.mil>, KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>>I don't know about Norman (I've only seen the movie), but I think Green's
> 
> WHAT Norman movie?  SURELY there was NEVER a Gor Movie?!?!?!

  Actually I believe there were two Gor movies made.  I've never seen one
but I saw at least one copy in a video store but didn't rent it.
A Playboy model plays the Love interset.

			Shane L. Bell
			bell@ecs.umass.edu
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From: griffin@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Zack Thompson)
Subject: Re: Looking for author/title of short story
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.114036.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> mgrossman@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>In article <BxLp6v.A30@cs.vu.nl>, tamossel@cs.vu.nl (Mossel TAK) writes:
>> Hiya. Some time ago, I read a short story about a man who programmed a 
>> computer to process a prayer over and over, like a Buddhist prayer-wheel.
>> Eventually, something happened. This is all I can remember, So if anyone
>> can help me with the title, author, where to find it, or even the plot,
>> I'd be very grateful...
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 			Krijn (tamossel@cs.vu.nl)
>  Sounds like Arthur C. Clarke's "The Nine Billion Names of God".  A neat
>story, you could probably find it in one of his anthologies.
>

Howdy-

ZT here.

Make that "most of his anthologies."
           ^^^^

Just for the Record.

                        The Crystal Griffin
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From: librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik)
Subject: Re: LEIGH BRACKETT (ESB) SF STORIES
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:22:24 GMT

4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:

>     For the interest of Star Wars fans I am listing all of her SF works and
>some of her other novels. She also wrote a number of mystery stories, but I
>haven't gone through the right indeces to gather the full information. I will
>also list all of the movies that she co-scripted or scripted. I have seen most
>of them and they are all quite good. I urge all readers to look them up as
>well as to obtain her stories and novels in original or collected form. A
>number of stories as yet are still uncollected. I have most of the originals
>and can't see why. Herein is a complete list of the SF and films of an author
>who has unfortunately been neglected.

I don't know if "neglected" is the right word.  Certainly the Star Wars
fans would be less likely to know Brackett as an sf author (of course, we
won't know, since you forgot to cross-post to the Star Wars newsgroup).
She was basically a 30's-40's author, married to Edmond Hamilton, and like
him continued to write 30's-style space opera.  With Campbell at the helm
of Astounding, she was relegated to the minor pulps (Planet Stories, etc.)
as was Hamilton -- though both could write great mainstream sf when they
set their minds to it.

Star Wars is basically space opera in the grandest and most magnificent
tradition.  If it had been a story, Campbell would have looked askance at it
and probably only published it if it were well-written.  But the medium of
film does very well with space opera, and tends to be lost with real "Idea"
sf (cf. the Lathe of Heaven, Blade Runner).  L.B. is a real treasure, though,
and worth seeking out if you want to see "classic" sf done exquisitely well.

Speaking of which, does anyone else but me like C.L. Moore?

- David Librik
librik@cory.Berkeley.edu
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From: kyrsten@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Kyrsten Swazey)
Subject: Re: Rama Revealed 
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:24:02 GMT

paspro@.ic.ac.uk (Mr P.N. Asproulis) writes:


>Does anybody know when the fifth Rama book : "Rama revealed" by
>Arthur C. Clarke is going to be published ?

>Thanks.

Umm... this is probably a pretty foolish question, but has the third
Rama book been published already?  I guess i haven't been paying enough
attention to the shelves...
Pls e-mail me: kyrsten@eos.arc.nasa.gov ... thanx in advance!

Kyrsten :-)
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
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Subject: Re: Starbridge Chronicles
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:35:24 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
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In article <1992Nov11.175523.2094@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdr11@phx.cam.ac.uk (Gareth Rees) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.154321.16668@athena.mit.edu>, gonzalez@athena.mit.edu (John R Gonzalez) writes:
>|<
>|> I was wondering if anyone on this newgroup has read Paul Park's books.  I
>|> recently finished The Cult of Loving Kindness and wondered what you all thought
>|> about it.
>
>I have read Soldiers of Paradise and Sugar Rain (is 'The Cult of Loving
>Kindness' volume three of the series?  It doesn't appear to be out in the UK
>yet)

Yes.  CLK was just released in US paperback; it's been out in hardback
for a year.

>and enjoyed them both; Paul Park has a wonderfully baroque imagination
>and a good command of images.  They're obviously derivative of Brian Aldiss'
>Helliconia trilogy, and although I think Aldiss did it better this doesn't
>stop me enjoying Park's work.

Well, the basic idea is the same, but most of Park's world consists of
concepts which are hardly just elaborations on "Gee, what if the
seasons were a hundred years long," so I don't think it's quite fair
to call them derivative.

Also as you will observe Park is a writer while Aldiss is a hackneyed
lump of hog snot, so my above should be taken with a grain of salt.

I thought Sugar Rain was a step downhill from Soldiers of Paradise;
CLK is a bit better, but still not up to the standard of SOP, which
was truly an amazing book - perhaps among the best of the decade.

>So tell us what The Cult of Loving Kindness is about?  Will there be further 
>volumes?

CLK ends the series.

It's about

**SPOILER**

the reincarnation of the Bishop of Charn.

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From: nsmith@tms390.micro.ti.com (Neal Smith)
Subject: Re: Tim Powers, Deity extroidinaire
Organization: Texas Instruments, Houston
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:42:57 GMT

blume@sp96.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Blume) writes:

>BTW: I just read my first Tim Powers novel, _Anubus Gates_, just a month ago
>and I'm hooked.  How's his other books?  Any other must reads?
>--

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>    Univ. of Illinois    |   Look on my feelers, termites, and despair."
>    blume@csrd.uiuc.edu  |                    - Monty Python, Ant Poetry

My vote is for _Dinner at Deviant's Palace_, which I found incredible
both for Tim's writing style and his attention to detail.  It has a good
treatment of "cults" which always pops back to mind when I read about
real cults in the news (and makes me shiver).  I noticed one person who
thought this was one of his weaker books; I disagree.  The difference 
might be that this is harder science fiction than the others, and doesn't
use historical data (which Tim is very good about researching, eg. in
Anubis).  READ IT!
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From: dstein@oak.math.ucla.edu (David Stein)
Subject: Nebula and Hugo winners ....
Summary: .... that made me go "YUCK!"
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:32:04 GMT



   Nebula and Hugo winners that made me go "YUCK!"
   ===============================================
   [an essay by Debil]

"Eye for Eye"  by Orson Scott Card

  Utterly and thoroughly average story without a trace of original/engaging 
  sf.  Boring and predictable.

"Tangents" by Greg Bear

  A letdown from an accomplished writter whose "Hardfought" or "Bloodmusic"
  deserved their awards.  Tangents starts promisingly, but ends the most
  clishe way imaginable.  From sf to fantasy wishfulfilment....

"Gilgamesh In The Outback" by Robert Silverberg

  Enjoyable read, but why a Hugo?  There's no sf, and it's a light
  read altogether.  Silverberg later improved on this theme considerably
  with "Enter a Soldier.  Later: Enter Another". 

"Paladin of the Lost Hour" by Harlan Ellison

  Eeeek.  I could not parse this novelette.  Indeed a lost hour...

"Twenty-four Views of Mt. Fuji, by Hokusai" by Roger Zelazny

  Novella out of a thin air.  This should have been a short story.
  Instead, it became a more and more predictible bore.

"Tower of Babylon" by Ted Chiang

  Hey, I can tolerate sophomoric games with elementary ideas on the
  pages of the Analog, but this got a Nebula!  The slush piles must 
  contain tens of similar stories.  Hundreds if you start counting 
  since the pulp days.  Geee, people get away with this...

"Ripples in the Dirac Sea" by Geoffrey A. Landis

  Another Landis story that would make a phycisist afraid to enter
  a lab with a guy like that.  This pseudo-science probably made
  the Nebula voters gasp with wonder at the 'deepness' of the ideas
  involved.  Lets call it transscience!

"Forever Yours, Anna" by Kate Wilhelm

  A gimmick story OK to read, but instantly forgettable right after.

"The Blind Geometer" by Kim Stanley Robinson

  I did not expect much understanding of geometry from Robinson, and 
  got none. But the math part ain't the worst!  The story itself is so 
  fucken silly I had to read on just to see when will the author regain 
  a brain.  Somewhere where two parallel lines meet....

 - Debil

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From: bjones@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Subject: Re: Blaylock and Powers (Re: Tim Powers)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:22:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.114617.6220@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.140437.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> rwilley@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Hrothgar) writes:
>>From memory i can recall the following books by Powers
>>[...]
>>                                                       For those of you
>>who really like his work, i would also recommend the follwong authors
>>Michael Shea - "Nifft the Lean"
>>Robert Holdstock - "Mythago Woods"
>>James Blaylock - "The Last Coin"
>>	(Power's college roomie, btw)
>
>I've just made up a list of Powers' books to order next I go around to
>the local bookshop, and then he is compared to Blaylock's _The Last Coin_.
>I seriously hope that they aren't that similar! So far I've read _The Stress
>of Her Regard_ and _The Last Coin_, and then decided not to waste any more
>money on Blaylock. 
>
>Is the comparison justified? Should I read _The Last Coin_ again? I might
>have missed something important on the first way through, although I doubt
>it. The pathetic null of a main characted seriously annoyed me.
>
>Greetings,
>--Mike
>
>-- 
>#include <std-disclm.h>--"... and there is a small flaw in my character."---
>Real Life: Michael Christian Heide Qvortrup      A Dane         ETH, Zuerich
>e-mail   : qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch                  abroad         Switzerland
>Institut fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen  /  Inst. of Scientific Computation

Oh man, I read your post and thought my heart was going to stop.
thud! Thud!! THUD!!! **Burst** as my heart pounds its way out of my
ribcage in a welter of gore and anguished disbelief . IMHO
Blaylock is one of the most subtle, brilliant writers working today, and
_Last Coin_ is one of his best books. If you found Andrew Vanbergen a
pathetic null, then you probably shouldn't read it again or bother
with any of his other works, as one of Blaylock's hallmarks is creating
idiosyncratic characters who muddle through somehow, mostly by accident
and through the strength of their curious convictions.

Still give Powers a go, however, especially _Last Call_ or _Annubis
Gates_. His works are different from Blaylock's, even though they do
share the same kind of skewed, manic world view. His characters are
more focused and competent in the way in which they interact with the
"real world."

Wow. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Hopefully I don't
sound like too much of a Blaylock fanboy here. He is capable of writing
very mediocre stuff, such as _Lord Kelvin's Machine_ and _The Magic
Spectacles_, but when he's on I think he's hard to beat.

BTW, your post implied that _Stress of Her Regard_ was written by Blaylock,
which is not the case. It was written by Powers.

Trying to take the long view, I remain


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From: re@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Roderick Easton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: The books of Van Voght
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:42:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Keywords: 

I just subscribed to this newsgroup and was very disappointed to find one of my
favorite authors completely unmentioned.  I refer to A.E. Van Voght (Vogt? I can't
remember).  If you are at all interested in books that have a strange twist in the
tail then he is the author to read.  His books are generally seriously eccentric and
very fun to read, if you can figure out exactly what he's up to before he tells you
then you're a better detective then me.  Some of his better books include
    `Slaan'
    `The Mind Cage'
    `Pawns of Null-a'  and
    `The Infinity War'.
  I also find the Titus books by Mervyn Peake a good read but I'm not sure how to
classify them (read `Titus Alone' and try yourself)

Rod

Live long and Conquer!
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From: tamossel@cs.vu.nl (Mossel TAK)
Subject: Looking for author/title of short story
Keywords: Help
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:28:07 GMT

Hiya. Some time ago, I read a short story about a man who programmed a 
computer to process a prayer over and over, like a Buddhist prayer-wheel.
Eventually, something happened. This is all I can remember, So if anyone
can help me with the title, author, where to find it, or even the plot,
I'd be very grateful...

Greetings,

			Krijn (tamossel@cs.vu.nl)
From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
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Subject: Re: Bruce Sterling
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:32:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner

humphrie@SSC.WISC.EDU writes:
> Re: "Islands in the Net" -- I read this and thought "Candide." Any thoughts?

Eh.  Possibly.  But not very much, by my lights.  Much of the effect
and message of CANDIDE depends on Pangloss, and there just isn't anyone
like that in ISLANDS.

	Larry "Not" Hammer
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From: nicolas@stam.nl (Nico Veenkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Looking for author/title of short story
Keywords: Help
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:47:48 CET
Organization: Stam Tijdschriften bv, Rijswijk, The Netherlands

tamossel@cs.vu.nl (Mossel TAK) writes:

> Hiya. Some time ago, I read a short story about a man who programmed a 
> computer to process a prayer over and over, like a Buddhist prayer-wheel.
> Eventually, something happened. This is all I can remember, So if anyone
> can help me with the title, author, where to find it, or even the plot,
> I'd be very grateful...
> 
wasn't that a short story by Asimov. The computer was supposed to print 
out all the nine billion names of God. When it was finished the Earth 
or the universe would come to an end. I have it somewhere at home.


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From: coatem@rs6215.ecs.rpi.edu (Malik Paul Coates)
Subject: Re: Human Computers in SF--Help!
Reply-To: coatem@rpi.edu
Organization: Rennselaer Polytechnic Institute.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:52:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.195652.5069@ninja.zso.dec.com>, rcrowley@donne.zso.dec.com (Rebecca Crowley) writes:
|> Eskinder Sahle (sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu) wrote:
|> 
|> : computers that talk and communicate like humans.
|> : 
|> : robert heinlein: _the moon is a harsh mistress_
|> 
|> Minerva (in Time Enough for Love), Athene in Cat Who Walks Through
|> Walls and others, Gay Deceiver in Number of the Beast and others, Dora
|> in Time Enough for Love and others  (I suppose one could include Tik-Tok, 
|> in NotB, but it would be stretch)  (Quite a lot of computers, actually.)
|> 
|> John Varley, CC (central computer) in many short stories and _Steel Beach_ 
|> 
|> Arthur Clarke, HAL
|> 
|> Zelazny wrote a short story (in My Name is Legion) which included a
|> robot/computer which became sentient/sapient, discovered guilt, and
|> took revenge.  I don't recall if that was the title story or not (I
|> think not).  I suppose you could call that entity in Doorways in the Sand
|> a computer.  Then those books in Roadmarks were downright friendly
|> at times (Leaves of Grass and Flowers of Evil).
|>

	Another Zelazny compuer-man is in one of the short stories in 
the last defender of camelot.  I don't remeber the name of the story,
but it was set in a world where man had become exstinct, but his robots
still ran.  One of the robots attempts to find out more about humans,
imitate them, and eventualy become one.  It was a pretty cool story.
I wish i could remeber its name.


 
|> Douglas Adams (Marvin, the doors and the vending machine thing on
|> the Heart of Gold, among others).
|> 
|> Vernor Vinge, in the short story True Names, the Mailman.
|> 
|> Images (which are, strictly speaking, programs in many computers
|> rather than a computer) in Daniel Moran's books (most notably _The Long
|> Run_).  (I seem to vaguely recall an implication that some of the
|> computers in Armageddon Blues were sentient/sapient, but I'm not
|> entirely sure here.)
|> 
|> About all I can think of right now.  :-)

Malik
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