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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.mystery.detective
Keywords: mystery, new, group, detective
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:32:45 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:

>roder@cco.caltech.edu (Brenda J. Roder) writes:

>>This sounds like a good idea, but the name should just be rec.arts.mystery
>>or rec.arts.detective.  Otherwise, it looks like it is a specialty group
>>for detectives in mystery stories which is what I first thought when I saw
>>the subject line.

>A number of months back, I suggested a group like this in rec.arts.books
>and offered the name: "rec.murder"  I still like it.

    As a name, rec.murder is pretty non-descriptive. The best name
proposed so far is rec.arts.mystery, IMHO.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	    "Egads! These look like a women's fingerprints"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.miracles
Date: 13 Sep 1992 22:03:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin) says:

>finchc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (finch clifton d) writes:

>>This newsgroup is for the discussion of the book, A Course in Miracles, which
>>an inner voice "dictated" to Helen Schucman, a Professor of Medical Psychology
>>at Columbia University.  The book teaches a mystical Christian view of the 
>>world, and includes a workbook to help the reader apply the teachings to 

>I am opposed to this group, because it seems misnamed.  If I were looking
>for a discussion of biblical (or other religious) miracles, I would look at
>soc.religion.miracles.

I agree.  A group dedicated to a single book?  Sounds
 more like this should be an alt.group.  Who is this
 finch clifton d person?  Would have been nice if he'd
 done some initial inquiries before going formal.
-- 
Francis A. Uy			now a Bawlmorean, hon.
Program Director, WUMD		ISO part time job to pay the rent.
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.arts.babylon5
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:37:18 GMT
Organization: Blue Knight Productions

In article <Bu229A.KIv@apollo.hp.com> @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine) writes:
>I will vote for an alt.tv.babylon5
>
>Although the show is not out yet it has gotten alot of attention and
>discussion. There are lots of posts about it in the ST heirarchy. 
>
>I would like to be able to read the ST groups for stuff about Star Trek and
>have a place to go to hear the latest on this new show. The whole creation 
>process of Babylon5 is very interesting. But, I don't think this information
>belongs in the ST heirarchy.

	I agrre with this... but how about a different approach.. Since
STAR TREK newsgroups are just tooo HUGE!!!

	How about adding a newsgroup to the Star Trek Hiearchie.. with
Babylon5. Where if you want you would junk the rest and just read this. 
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From: alvin@netcom.com (Alvin H. White)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: [G.O.D.S.B.R.A.I.N.] RFD comp.translation
Keywords: computer translation machine
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:59:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


rfd comp.translation

comp.translation.internet
internet.computer.translation.database
internet.translation.computer
internet.computer.song.translation
internet.computer.translation.song
song.translation.computer.internet
computer.speech.translation.song
computer.speech.translation.song.indian
computer.speech.translation.song.indian.american
computer.speech.translation.song.indian.asian
computer.song.translation.speech
computer.song.translation.speech.multimedia
computer.multimedia.song.translation.speech
computer.speech.song.translation.internet
computer.speech.song.translation.music
computer.music.song.translation.speech
if.every.person.on.earth.has.an.internet.address.the.addresses.will.be.long
especially.trying.to.classify.every.thougt.under.its.own.group.for.posterity
nothing.like.structured.thinking.in.a.free.society
comp.translation.questions
comp.translation.suppliers
comp.translation.suppliers.price.lists
comp.translation.suppliers.documentation
comp.translation.suppliers.documentation.price.lists
comp.translation.suppliers.documentation.price.lists.multimedia
comp.translation.

he gave his life for the world he loved
she gave her life for the world she loved
it gave its life for the world's people
the world's people gave their life for the world they were ...
the great pyramid of egypt was built by people working together
  with a common purpose
the great wall of china was built by people working together
  with a common purpose
in modern times what could the world's people build of the internet
  for the common good
some of the cathedral's of europe took several hundred years to build
  little at a time

comp.translation
 

alvin@netcom.com

Alvin H. White, Gen. Sect.
G.O.D.S.B.R.A.I.N.
1505 De Rose Way #66 
San Jose, CA 95126 USA

(408) 286-2794
(408) 286-4244

Government Online Database Systems
Bureau for Resource Allocations to Information Networks
[an idea waiting to happen]

120 West 38 North
From: nsw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Neil Weinstock)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: 3rd RFD: rec.music.makers.* groups
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:16:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Flying Squid Patrol

In article <1992Sep9.220601.23014@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>
>>Proposal A: Create rec.music.makers.guitar, and remove alt.guitar.
>>Proposal B: Create rec.music.makers.bass, and remove alt.guitar.bass.
>>Proposal C: Create rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature, and remove alt.guitar.tab.
>>Proposal D: Create rec.music.makers.percussion.
>>Proposal E: Rename rec.music.synth to rec.music.makers.synth
>
>I find this a logical, well-thought-out, efficient way of restructuring the
>rec.music.makers situation.

I like it too, though I'd still like to see rec.music.makers.marketplace
thrown in there.

                                - Neil

--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--
Neil Weinstock @ AT&T Bell Labs         //     What was sliced bread
att!edsel!nsw or nsw@garage.att.com   \X/    the greatest thing since?
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: gsmith@lauren.uucp (Gene W. Smith)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.miracles
Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:02:22 GMT

In article <190drsINN6mh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis
A. Uy) writes:

>I agree.  A group dedicated to a single book?  Sounds
> more like this should be an alt.group.

The same complaint might be made against soc.religion.{islam,christian}. 
The real question is simply is there enough interest?  There is already 
a mailing list, but no one has so far suggested an alt group.

-- 
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprect-Karls University 
                gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.sf.tv.blakes7
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:53:00 GMT

>The show generates almost NO discussion. Why don't you try to discuss the
>show enough to represent a signifigant share of the traffic on
>rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv or rec.arts.tv.uk? THEN consider a separate
>group.

I've been keeping my mouth shut, but I have to reply to this one.
I am a Blake 7 fan.  I have been for many years now.  I do not 
discuss Blake 7 on the net because I don't have the time to plow
through the various different groups which carry B7 threads.

If there was a B7 newsgroup you can be B7 fans would post.  I have
found that B7 fans like nothing more (except watching of course)
than to chat about B7.


>A specific group for a single TV show is basically a bad idea, YES there
>are exceptions to that but they represent far more established phenomena
like Star Trek and Dr. Who.

Does this include 90210, Simpsons, Thirtysomething, etc.?  All of
these I have seen newsgroups for.
>.....................I never even heard of Blakes 7 before
>discussion. When I searched for articles on the subject outside of
>news.groups I found MAYBE a dozen articles. A dozen articles does not a
>newsgroup make.

re: above note on why I don't post.  Maybe that's why they don't
post either.  A lot of people have not heard of Blakes 7.  A
few months ago a singer came to my town and signed autographs at
a record store.  The kids went crazy.  It was like the kids were
about the Beattles back in the 60's.  I and everyone I know had
never heard of the guy.  Just because we had never heard of it
does that mean his following has no meaning?


Tammy Stark Blandino
lib1p@jetson.uh.edu
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: talk.boycotts.calls moderated, talk.boycotts.misc
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:06:47 GMT

jkp@cs.hut.fi (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

>The groups:
>
>talk.boycotts.calls	Calls for boycotts. (Moderated)
>
[...]
>  The purpose of [the automatic] moderation is to keep the group only for
>calls for boycotts, not for discussions.
[...]

A boycott call is an attempt to persuade people to act usually based
on a political argument. I think that attempts to persuade people not
to act with political counter-arguments should be the same forum. I
don't see why calls to boycott should be given preference over calls
not to boycott. For this reason, I oppose talk.boycotts.calls (but
support talk.boycotts.misc).

The only reason I can see for anyone voting for talk.boycotts.calls is
if they really expect to read it but not talk.boycotts.misc. Given the
one-sidedness inherent in a boycott call, I hope that there will not
be too many such readers.

- Carl
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Xref: sparky news.groups:17973 sci.chem:3528
From: James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: news.groups,sci.chem
Subject: Re: RFD: sci.chem.organomet
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 21:42:11 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <LOTTO.92Sep15091150@laura.harvard.edu>

Regarding the creation of sci.chem.organomet (and any other sub groups
such as sci.chem.organic, etc.), by my observations, I do not see enough
current traffic in sci.chem to warrant the new group creation.  Just
my humble opinion (though I would certainly be interested in subscribing
to such a group if it were created and promoted lively discussions).

Jim Kowalczyk                          James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com

An organic chemist currently, but at one time an organometallic chemist.
From: millerl@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.games.rpg.board
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:59:39 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Newt World Order

In article <BuL4M4.GoF@uunet.uu.net>, lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
> Request for new group: rec.games.rpg.board

> This is a proposal for a news group which would discuss those
> games containing elements of both role playing games and 
> board games.  The primary games under consideration are 
> Battletech/Mechwarrior and Warhammer/Warhammer 40K although
> is not limited to those two.  

I don't have any objections to the proposed contents of the newsgroup. I
do have an objection to the name. It should be a subgroup of
rec.games.frp, not of rec.games.rpg, which is a bogus newsgroup that
only exists because some newsadmins are too lazy to delete it and others
have made the mistake of aliasing it to rec.games.frp and thence to
rec.games.frp.misc (hint to news admins, rmgroup rec.games.rpg and stop
aliasing postings from deleted newsgroups. it only encourages anarchy).
I also question how many postings it will get, and why whatever is
discussed on it can't simply be discussed on rec.games.board or
rec.games.frp.misc?

-- 
whoah,
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Loren Miller                           internet: MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu
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Newsgroups: news.groups
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: 2nd RFD: comp.international
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:39:23 GMT

>>Some have felt that comp.std.internat should be used for the topics
>>proposed for comp.international, but the topic area isn't the same.
>
>Comp.std.misc exists "for discussion of various standards."  I fail to
>see how this group is inappropriate for the topics you mention.

There are no standards for all aspects of internationalization.  For
example, is there a standard for patching GNU emacs to handle 8-bit
characters?  Is that a discussion of various standards?  How about
discussing retrofitting some existing software for switchable
languages?

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin.policy
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: RFD: Removal of Unused Newsgroups
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:09:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.051325.21010@news.iastate.edu> john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
>peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>}john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:
>}[100+ line C program removed]
>}That's a lot of work to do:
>}sed -e '/!/s/[,-].*[,-]/-/' 
>Except sed mangled the really long lines (*sigh*).

So get a better sed.

>Besides, it takes less time to write 100 lines of C than to
>decipher the sed man page :-/

Oh, come on. It's not like I used groups or labels or anything. This was
just straight "ed" style regexps. Anyone can handle that.
-- 
                                                                `-_-'
                         Har du kramat din varg idag?            'U`

Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032
From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.sf.tv.blakes7
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:31:45 GMT
Reply-To: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists

sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne) writes:
> How about a periodic posting (every week or two weeks) in rec.arts.tv.uk
> and all the other groups that get a lot of B7 traffic, directing B7 
> discussion to rec.arts.sf.tv?

	I suggested this and even volunteered to maintain the posting,
but no one had said anything one way or another about it. Once again, I'll
make the offer though. (For those who have been reading the B7 posts, you
don't recogonize my name because I normally don't follow-up on B& posts, I
just read them. So I am familiar with what's going on.)

> A few months ago it seemed that nearly 25% of rec.arts.tv.uk was B7-
> related, and 15-20% of rec.arts.sf.tv was--without very much
> cross-posting, either.  The volume is there, but it may not be there 
> consistently. 

	Right, I think that's what we need to check first. If we can
establish one group as the spot where B7 threads go and if it then tends to
swamp the group somewhat, then I think there's a much stronger case for a
group solely for B7.

-Jeff
-- 
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"Join that political superman, secret agent double 0 zero, George Bosh
in his new film, 'Never Just Say No Again.'"      Off The Cuff, R.I.P.
"Did everyone buy that? Good, 'cause I didn't"   The Proof By Snow Job
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.sf.tv.blakes7
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:52:38 MDT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Utah State University

In article <jenkinsj-080992085141@tseng.taligent.com>, jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins) writes:
> In article <1992Sep4.161412.28727@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) wrote:
>> 
>> In <1992Sep4.134530.592@athena.cs.uga.edu> shimkus@athena.cs.uga.edu (Peter Gambit) writes:
>> 
>> >The point in fact is that Blake's Seven is every bit as important and popular
>> >as Blakes Seven and Dr. Who in its circle, and it deserves its own group 
>> >*somewhere*, whether alt.tv.blakes7 or (preferably) rec.arts.blakes7.
>> 
>> That remains to be seen. Try concentrating discussion in a single group (I
>> would recommend rec.arts.sf.tv) for awhile and see if there really is
>> enough interest to generate any kind of volume for more than a couple
>> weeks.
>> 
> 
> Good idea IMHO.  There are a number of B7 threads going on in 
>rec.arts.sf.tv right now.  It's easy to find them (they're the ones 
>with "B7" in the subject line).  Typically, there is so little 
>posting going on about B7 that a newsgroup of its own does seem 
>a bit excessive (say I as a B7 fan myself).  

How about a periodic posting (every week or two weeks) in rec.arts.tv.uk
and all the other groups that get a lot of B7 traffic, directing B7 
discussion to rec.arts.sf.tv?

That way, we could get an idea of how much B7 traffic there really is,
so we could find out once and for all if there is enough for a rec.
hierarchy group of our own, or if we should try for an alt. group or
a mailing list.

A few months ago it seemed that nearly 25% of rec.arts.tv.uk was B7-
related, and 15-20% of rec.arts.sf.tv was--without very much
cross-posting, either.  The volume is there, but it may not be there 
consistently. 
 
Lorna
-- 

     -------------------------------------------------------------
               Lorna Payne
               Certified Math Geek and Grammarian
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     The concept is simply staggering.  Pointless, but staggering.
                         -The Doctor (The Pirate Planet)
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From: twegner@mwunix.mitre.org (Timothy Wegner)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RESULT: sci.fractals passes 295:20
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:11:17 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com> writes:
>Since this new group is intended to replace alt.fractals, I will call
>for the removal of alt.fractals (or its aliasing) in favor of
>sci.fractals after a sufficient amount of time (30 days) has passed
>for most sites to start carrying sci.fractals.

>						-- Rich

I think the sci.fractals proposal sounds great *except* for eliminating
alt.fractals. This will cut off a lot of people who can't receive the sci
newsgroups. This was discussed earlier, and I had the (mistaken?) impression
that the proposal was to add a new group, not move the old one. Are you
sure this point was understood by the people who voted?
--
Tim Wegner     Fractint co-author
Internet: twegner@mwunix.mitre.org  Compuserve: 71320.675@compuserve.com
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.sf.tv.blakes7
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:46:21 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

grohol@novavax.UUCP (John Grohol) writes:

>jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins) writes:

>>Good idea IMHO.  There are a number of B7 threads going on in rec.arts.sf.tv right now.  It's easy to find them (they're the ones with "B7" in the subject line).  Typically, there is so little posting going on about B7 that a newsgroup of its own does seem a bit excessive (say I as a B7 fan myself).  

>I disagree. I believe that there is a lot of discussion going on about
>B7, it's just that it is spread out over a number of newsgroups and
>not always crossposted. I further believe that given it's own group
>under the rec.arts.tv.sf hierarchy, it will then pull together all the
>smaller discussions and allow for a comprehensive area in which to find
>B7 talked about in depth.  The current mish-mash of B7 being found
>on everything from rec.arts.tv.uk to whatever makes a B7 newsgroup
>necessary.

    The problem that you are going to run into is the fact that you
can't show enough non-B7 fans that there is enough traffic and interest
in this show to give it its own newsgroup in the rec.arts.* hierarchy.
Without this, you are not going to get the group passed a CFV. This is
not a criticism, just a simple fact that has been proven over the years
(cf. rec.arts.disney,afternoon which is now a mailing list). The
suggestion, made by a number of people, to move all the B7 discussion to
r a sf tv is the only way you will be able to show that there is enough
traffic and interest to ger this show it's own newsgroup. Unless of
course you choose alt.tv.b7 which you could create tomorrow, if you know
how.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	    "Egads! These look like a women's fingerprints"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.scouting,rec.backcountry
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.scouting.activities, rec.scouting.policy
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:38:25 GMT

Followup to: news.groups

jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:

[...]
>I note that rec.scouting.activities is proposed as an *unmoderated*
>group.  From the example of rec.hunting and rec.guns if you don't make
>it moderated you might as well not bother splitting rec.scouting 
>up.  Otherwise the activists will simply be all over Scouting's ass in
>two sub-groups instead of one top-level one.
[...]

Speaking as prolific critic of BSA policy, I don't expect to post in
rec.scouting.activites. Moreover, I think this is different than
rec.guns and rec.hunting. For one thing the names:

  rec.scouting.activities / rec.scouting.policy  much fairer than
  rec.guns                / talk.politics.guns   and
  rec.hunting             / ????

For another, most critics in rec.guns likely oppose guns in general,
critics in most rec.hunting oppose hunting in general, while few (no?)
critics of BSA policy in rec.scouting oppose scouting in general.

If it turns out that rec.scouting.activities can't stay on topic, then
moderation could be considered.

- Carl
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: roder@cco.caltech.edu (Brenda J. Roder)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.mystery.detective
Keywords: mystery, new, group, detective
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:09:45 GMT

This sounds like a good idea, but the name should just be rec.arts.mystery
or rec.arts.detective.  Otherwise, it looks like it is a specialty group
for detectives in mystery stories which is what I first thought when I saw
the subject line.

-- 
-- Brenda (roder@cobalt.caltech.edu)
Thought before action, if there's time.
    _The Edge_  Dick Francis