From: rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:52:40 GMT

Grafei o Spiros Triantafyllopoulos (st486!strianta@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com):

>H episthmh upologistwn exei  pollh megalh ekseliksh kai mellon;
>an h (ekastote) kybernhsh mporesei na to katalavei kai na to
>aksiopoihsei, twte isws na kataferoume me ta programmata oti den
>kataferame me alles biomhxanies/biotexnies.
>Pare gia paradeigma tous Indous oi opoioi doulevoun gia psixala mesw 
>satelite link US <--> India. Dhladh emeis DEN mporoume na kanoume to idio?

An anaferesai stin anaptyksi logismikoy se xwres me xamilo kostos ergasias,
tote diafwnw oti emeis xreiazetai na kanoyme kati analogo. Kati tetoio 
den prosthetei tipota stin afomoiwsi texnognwsias, kai to mono poy petyxainei 
einai h  paroxi ftinoy ergatikoy dynamikoy se xwres me ypsilo kosto ergasias.
Nomizw oti ayto poy leipei apo tin Ellada einai mia kentriki stratigiki 
me basi tin opoia tha ylopoihthoyn megala erga Pliroforikis. H apousia mias 
tetoias stratigikis kollaei isws stis adynamies toy dimosioy tomea. Sto 
na baloyme ena PC sto farmakeio h' sto video-club tis geitonias pame kala, 
isws kalytera apo kathe alli xwra. Ti ginetai omws me tin Pliroforiki stis
dimosies ypiresies, epixeiriseis koinis wfeleias, klp. ekei poy pragmatika
yparxei anagki;  


>Ena allo paradeigma se auth thn periptwsh einai h Islandia kai h Filandia.
>Exoun merikous apo tous kalyterous xakerades (hackers), eidika h Filandia.
>Epishs exoun kai oi duo axrhstes glwsses pou den xrhsimopoiei kanenas
>ektos apo tous idious. Nomizeis oti exoun metafrasei olh thn orologia
>sta Finlandika? Apo tous Filandous pou kserw, den nomizw.

Ma Spyro, den milame gia tin metafrasi olis tis orologias sta Ellinika.
Omws, opws fanhke kai apo prohgoymena postings, ena poly megalo pososto
mporei na apodothei ikanopoihtika. To kerdos tis Ellinikis apodosis einai
oti bohtha sto na ginei pio prositi h Pliroforiki ston kosmo. Ayto 
bebaia den apokleiei tin synyparksh merikes fores kai tis Agglikis orologias.
Se teliki analysi, an to manual ths PL/1 tha xrisimopoihthei apo deka
ekseidikeymenoys epaggelmaties, einai koyto na metafrastei. Ayto omws
den isxyei kai gia to manual p.x. toy DOS h' tou Unix. 
Apo tin alli, diafwnw me to xaraktirismo mias glwssas san axristi kai tin
tasi gia isopedwsi twn pantwn sto onoma toy efhmeroy enos. To oti zoyme 
se mia epoxi poy h Agglikh einai (einai?) kyriarxi glwssa kai i
Pliroforiki exei megalh simasia, den simainei oti agnooyme oles tis
alles glwsses kai epistimes...


>Kai ena allo epixeirhma. Polles episthmes xrhsimopoioun Ellhnikh orologia
>(p.x. Iatrikh, Zwologia, etc) sta Agglika. An oi Aggloi kai oi Amerikanoi
>xrhsimopoioun dikes mas lekseis stis episthmes tous emeis giati den 
>xrhsimopoioume dikes tous stis dikes mas?

Kaneis den to arneitai an ginetai me metro kai opoy den mporoyn na apodothoyn
oi antistoixoi agglikoi oroi. Arketes ksenikes lekseis exoyn afomoiwthei apo 
tin Elliniki glwssa kai den yparxei tipota to asximo sto na prostesei 
i pliroforiki kai alles. Oxi omws stin alogisti xrisi twn Agglikwn leksewn 
ekei poy mporoyn na brethoyn isodynames ellinikes apodoseis (kai apo ta 
paradeigmata poy exoyn anaferthei mporoyn na yparksoyn kales apodoseis sth 
syntriptiki pleiopsifia twn orwn).
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