HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Jamey Maze <jnm@ornl.gov>
Subject: Re: You get what you pay for? (Was Re: Eudora Support)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A754EE8B41028039@baloo.ctd.ornl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 14: 32:43 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:32:50 GMT

I think I can see both sides of this argument. Eudora is a really good
thing and I fear the momentum would be lost if Qualcomm started charging
for it. On the other hand, some people would feel more comfortable with
it if they had an 800 number they could call if they had a problem and
expect to get an answer (since they paid for the service). What if
Qualcomm continued to provide Eudora for free, but provided an optional
800-number technical support service? Qualcomm could hire a couple co-op
students to staff it (if needed). Bet they could make some money and
Eudora would begin to grow in places it might not have had the
opportunity before!
From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: XyZEL Modem WAS(Supra v32bis or Teleport Gold?????)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:02:51 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: mohawk.cs.utexas.edu

> This happens to me. I can only send fax at maximum speed of 4800, but my
> ZyXEL is sending at 9600.

I have found FAXing with a ZyXEL 1496E (5.0.2 ROMs) and FaxSTF 2.2.3
to be flawless.  A supra I tried (with old ROMs) FAXed very poorly
indeed.  Almost nothing worked.  I'd want to hear some success stories
in this regard about the latest supra ROMs before I bought one.  With
the old ROMs, multipage faxes and hi-res faxes did not work. 

I have been happy with the ZyXEL.  Not only do the FAX capabilities
work, but I have never had a problem connecting to another modem.

I have never tried the ZyXEL's voice functions.  I don't have software.
Does any exist for the Mac?
-- 
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Peter Newton (newton@cs.utexas.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,connect.audit
From: dream11@ibmpcug.co.uk (Eric Tompkins)
Subject: Re: Does any one have a phone number for the makers of uAccess
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:44:13 GMT

The only US distributor for uAccess is now Intercon.  The phone is
703-709-5503.  Ask for "Clint".  His email is "clint@intercon.com.
Two products are available now:  uAccess and uAccess Light.  I've
ordered but haven't received yet.

Eric
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Patrick Parker <pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Slow AppleShare 3.0
Reply-To: pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:16:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.184303.4743@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
>
>
>    My office used to run AppleShare 2.0 on an SE/30 and it was fairly
>responsive for LocalTalk. Recently we have upgraded to a Quadra 700 and
>AppleShare 3.0, and now server access is about half of what it was
>before. Has anybody else seen this? Is there something simple I'm
>missing in the configuration of the server? Any help would be most
>appreciated...

I'll second the nod on this..  but I think this discussion has rehashed many
times.  I'm experiencing the same problem and never heard any answer of how to
speed up AppleShare.  I've been seriously considering reverting back to 2.0.2
just becase everything has slowed down considerably.  I think (while I do like
some of the abilities) that AppleShare 3.0 is a huge, slow monster.  If someone
has any ideas on speeding it up, without adding cards, etc.. I'm all ears.

Patrick Parker
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Barry Cooper <bjc3@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Using Zoom modems for ARA?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23: 07:35 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: bjc3@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:03:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.153659.29841@netnews.noc.drexel.edu> Andrew W.
Miller, milleraw@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu writes:
>> My personal experience using both Zoom and Supra modems was miserable. 
>>I just could not get them to connect at 14.4.
>
>Is this a problem with the modem or with ARA.  I have a similar problem
>with my Twincom 14.4k modem.  It will not connect using ARA at 14.4.  But
>when I call a BBS at 14.4k the modem works fine.  What is so different
>about ARA?  Is there any way to fix this?

Sorry, I don't know the answer, but I had somewhat similar experiences,
ie. I could connect to BBSs sometimes using White Knight , but hardly
ever using ARA.  However, I can only repeat that switching to the USR DS
modems _completely_ corrected the problems.  Now all my connections are
high speed and stable.  It seems to me therefore that ARA is somehow more
demanding of the modem, perhaps of the modem's ability to handle a
certain level of line noise.  I saw somewhere on the net that another
user had fitted a filter of some kind that he said he got from AT&T.  If
I remember correctly it was a radio frequency filter.  Good luck.
Barry Cooper
bjc3@cornell.edu
From: veizades@apple.com (John Veizades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Using TCP via ARA
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:27:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <werner-111292081034@128.32.157.31>, werner@soe.berkeley.edu
(John Werner) wrote:
e remote Macintoshes.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with this scenario, i.e. using MacTCP over
> an ARA connection on v.32bis modems?  I mostly just use Eudora and
> NewsWatcher, with occasional FTP, Gopher, Telnet, etc.  Would the
> performance be good enough?  I'm guessing yes, but I'm not sure.  I also do
> some backups over the net to a Unix machine running CAP, but I don't care
> too much about the performance for that.
> 
>

I have been doing this for well over a year using a variety of Macintoshes.
 I find that file transfers are done at about full modem speed (8000
bits/sec) on a 9600 baud modem.  It is in one sentence "An extremly usable
service."  Doing more than one network operation at a time slows the system
down (i.e. doing AppleTalk service work and TCP/IP services at the same
time) but otherwise it works fine.

You should use MacTCP 1.1.1 since it incorporates several bug fixes to make
this senario work well.  MacTCP in general is aware of ARA connections and
reconfigures itself every time a connection is made or the system is
brought up from sleep making this a very seemless way of using ARA and a
PowerBook from home or the road and using your system in the office.

John Veizades...
Apple Computer, Inc.
MacTCP Lead Engineer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: MacTCP (re: not included in system)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:14:32 GMT

In article <1CE00001.lagpra@tbomb.ice.com>, time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Dec16.093457.13871@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> (comp.sys.mac.comm), Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> writes:
> > If Macs with Ethernet hardware are delivered without MacTCP this
> > is like selling a car without a steering wheel.
> > Apple seriously should reconsider its MacTCP policy !!!!
> 
> This is an absolute stupidity!
> 
> I have had more than a few customers of new Quadras call
> and ask why they have setup their Mac and can not use NCSA
> telnet to get to the A/UX machine.
> 
> When I explain that they are missing software that drives TCP,
> they literally hit the ceiling. One sent the machine back!
> 
> Apple - wake up!
> 
> Do you think GM would let you order a Cadillac without air conditioning?
> No. It is standard.
> 
What....You get EtherTalk standard....maybe it's not a Cadillac....
it's an Oldsmobile and Air Conditioning is a Pay For option.....

<==================================+==================================>
  Peter Haase                      +    Internet: haase@meediv.lanl.gov
  Network Manager/MEE-Division     +    Applelink: HAASE
  Los Alamos National Laboratory   +    Phone: 505-667-2684

"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Mac Archie
Date: 12 Dec 1992 01:05:19 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Mr. Peter C. Schuyler (petes@icarus.ifsm.umbc.edu) wrote:
: Is there a Macintosh version of Archie around?

The best way (currently) to do Archie from the mac is via gopher.
Your packets may take kind of a round-about path, but you do get
to do archie searches, and what's more if the wind is right you
can fetch the files directly from the search results menu.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wglad@iat.holonet.net (William Gladnick)
Subject: cunbatch for macintosh?
Organization: HoloNet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:00:56 GMT

Is there a cunbatch program for the macintosh computer?

If not, can anyone tell me where I might find C source code for cunbatch?

I am getting newsgroups via a uucp feed which appear to be in cunbatch
format. Any help/tips/hints/solutions appreciated. Thank you...


						Bill

____________________________________
William Gladnick (504)522-6607
wglad@holonet.net
wglad@genesis.nred.ma.us
From: mcmains@unt.edu (Sean McMains)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ARA
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:08:10 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 12: 09:22 GMT
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In article <Bz8uE9.IFr@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Bill Kirk DCS,
wkirk@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>1.  What is it?  How does it work?  Is if faster that kermit or zterm?

It is software that allows your Mac to think it's connected to a remote
network by using a modem connection. You will, for example, be able to
access any printers, file servers, or other network services available on
that network just as you would if you were physically connected to the
network. It is faster than Kermit (what isn't?), but ZTerm has a speed
advantage for file transfers, as it's not supporting all the network
protocols that ARA has to. It does much more than ZTerm, however, as file
transfers are only a small subset of the things one can do with a network
connection.

>2.  Is it commerical, shareware, or freeware?

It's commercial -- manufactured by Apple.

>3.  Will it work on a LC with 10meg ram 40 meg hard disk, and an ATI
>Technologies 2400etc modem.  The modem architecture is based on the Intel
>8031 microprocessor and uses a single chip digital signal processor.  Has
>CCITT V.42 error control protocol, V.42bis data compression and MNP level
>5 data compression.

If you're running System 7 and can find an appropriate modem script, it
should work fine. Modem scripts are available all over the net and on the
commercial services as well. ARA also comes with several of them, and
modem manufacturers will also sometimes provide them if they're targeting
the Mac market at all.
==========================================================================
Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>        |          University of North Texas
==========================================================================
"An open mind, in questions that are  not ultimate, is useful. But an open
mind about  the ultimate  foundations either  of Theoretical  or Practical
Reason is idiocy." - C.S. Lewis
==========================================================================
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Recommendations on TelePort Gold?
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:15:19 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Dec20.131212.23712@afterlife.ncsc.mil> mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith) writes:


>   I'm thinking of getting a Teleport Gold modem, because I can get it for
>$349 (being a registered user of an older Teleport modem), and I've heard
>mixed reviews on the Supra modem.  (Some people seem to think it's great,
>while others keep finding "bugs" in it.)

I had not heard about bugs.  I have one and it works.

>   But I haven't heard anyone's review of the Teleport Gold.  Does anyone
>have this, or have you seen reviews of it?  If so, how is it?  Does it have
>any of the problems the Supra one has?

>   I run a Hermes BBS; would this modem be compatible with Hermes?  (Or
>would I have to get a special cable?  Right now I use Hermes with an ADB-style
>Teleport, and don't have a special cable.)

The Teleport Gold is not an ABD modem.  GV told me that the ABD bus does not
have the bandwidth required to support 14.4 KBPS.  It comes with a cable that
will plug into your printer port or modem port.

>   Of course I am attracted to features like Caller ID and Voice, but only
>because I love "features".  In reality I'd never use these.  (I don't plan
>on buying the Caller ID service, and I've already got a really nice answering
>machine.)

The ZyXEL U-1496E comes with Caller ID and voice features, and for a few extra
bucks it comes with Mac fax send-receive software.  

The Gold does not have Caller ID or voice functionality.

My only real gripes so far are:

the Gold uses red LEDs, and I prefer green for "normal" things, and red
for "bad" things.

The Gold lacks a light to tell you if EC is on.  It lacks a signal quality
light.  (The ZyXEL has both.)

The Gold has factory default for S7 that is nuts.  You enter AT&F1 and
the S7 value you get is 30 seconds.  That is not long enough for an EC
handshake.

It's easy enough to fix that, of course, you just set up the initialization
string in your software to include AT S7=60.

The Gold is made for "tower" mount.  I would have preferred a landscape 
style like the ZyXEL.  Others may prefer the tower style.

Hope this helps.


Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: rheinze@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP: Direct connection between 2 macs
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:36:21 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

My brother and I are home for the holidays and are trying to
hook our macs together (cx and ci). We are trying to use our
modem cables with a patch in between to connect (switch pins
2 and 3). We can talk to each other through our communicatios
programs, but we are not recognizing each other through Appletalk.
Only 5 wires are connected through our cables. Do we need more?
Is this possible without an 'Appletalk cable'?
The other mac is not showing up in the chooser. How do they see
each other?
Does one need to be setup as a server, or both?
We are both under system 7.0.1. 
We don't have any manuals that help with Appletalk here, so 
any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: Supra Modem cable
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:05:29 GMT

In article <cbR=76=@engin.umich.edu> gadget@engin.umich.edu (Timothy David Sharpe) writes:
>Is it possible to buy the cable separately, or make it?
>I don't see the need for the whole macpac, just the cable.
>
>Thanks
>Tim

Here's a company that sells a nice hardware handshake cable for <$15
The Celestin Company
(800) 835-5514

They're a BMUG approved company, or whatever they call it.
-- 
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From: mancini@fysik.uu.se (Derrick C. Mancini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Need AppleShare via TCP - ARNS for Mac?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:07:27 GMT
Organization: Fysikum, Uppsala Universitet
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: usx221.fysik.uu.se

Hello, all.  I have recently downloaded the ARNS Client and Server, and
I am quite impressed with what the can do.  In particular, the IP Remote
ATalk extension is perfect for us:  we would like to access our AppleShare
server from our remote laboratory, which is accessable via the internet
only.  HOWEVER, the ARNS Server is made for a UNIX machine only.  What we
need is an IP Remote ATalk extension SERVER function, something that will
allow our AppleShare Server with MacTCP to offer ATalk (or just AShare)
services via the internet.  We already use the FTPd successfully, but since
the Client already exists, does anyone know if or how difficult it would
be to have the Server capability?

Derrick C. Mancini
Fysiska Institutionen  -  Uppsala Universitet
Box 530  S751 21  Uppsala  Sverige
mancini@fysik.uu.se
---------------------------------------------
"Are we having fun yet?"  -  Zippy
From: arogers@eis.calstate.edu (Al Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: pinouts for LC modem port in iie emulation
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:01:55 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

I'm needing to connect a high speed modem to a LC in iie emulation mode.

DOes anybody know the pinouts for the modem port????
.
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP (re: not included in system)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:34:04 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2


In article <1992Dec16.093457.13871@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> (comp.sys.mac.comm), Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> writes:
> If Macs with Ethernet hardware are delivered without MacTCP this
> is like selling a car without a steering wheel.
> Apple seriously should reconsider its MacTCP policy !!!!

This is an absolute stupidity!

I have had more than a few customers of new Quadras call
and ask why they have setup their Mac and can not use NCSA
telnet to get to the A/UX machine.

When I explain that they are missing software that drives TCP,
they literally hit the ceiling. One sent the machine back!

Apple - wake up!

Do you think GM would let you order a Cadillac without air conditioning?
No. It is standard.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: andy@ie.utoronto.ca (Andy Sun)
Subject: Re: MacX 1.1.7 and Sun OpenLook Problem (shelltool/cmdtool will work)
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:51:16 GMT

dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers) writes:

[OLWM stuff deleted...]

>>3. Has anybody successfully launched cmdtool from within MacX instead of
>>   from the terminal emulator as described above?

>I am still experiencing problems.  These are due to the Sun and
>SunOS, not due to MacX.  What MacX does is use a rexec command
>to start up x-clients.  For security reasons, SunOS won't even
>acknowledge them from non-recognized hosts, and I still haven't
>gotten it to play nice.  When I need to run sun stuff, I just
>start up ncsa Telnet, open up a term on the Sun, set the DISPLAY
>and go from there.  I would recommend this anyway, because the
>response from a Telnet terminal is far better than from any
>x based terminal you could open up in MacX.  Since I almost
>always need at least one terminal window, it makes sense to
>just keep telnet running in parallel with MacX, and just use
>macX for graphics stuff.

Dave is indeed correct in saying that it's SunOS's problem, not MacX's.
However, there is a way to make both cmdtool and shelltool work with MacX.
When editing the command line in MacX for cmdtool, type

/usr/etc/setsid -b /usr/openwin/bin/xview/cmdtool -display "(r)display"

(where "(r)" is the registered trademark symbol). The above command will
allow shelltool to launch successfulyl. The same holds for shelltool (which
is in fact a symbolic link to cmdtool anyway).

This has been tested and worked successfully with SunOS 4.1.1 running
Sun OpenWindows 2.0 on a SPARCstation 2, and MacX (both version 1.1.7 and
verison 1.2) on a Quadra 900 with System 7.0.1 + tuneup.

I hope this helps.

Andy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: SoftArc on the net ?
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:56:10 GMT


Does SoftArc of the FirstClass fame have an Internet address ? Or something I
could mail to ?

	Pasi

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From: stoll@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cliff Stoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: You get what you pay for? (Was Re: Eudora Support)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 08:11:37 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Well I downloaded Eudora, wrote the Navigation strings, and it works!

Talk about support -- Steve Dorner wrote five e-mail messages to me
during the day.  This guy really stands behind his work!

Doing the entire installation from scratch took about 10 hours.
If I'd known what I was doing, it'd take 10 or 15 minutes.

Since I'm no wizard, I made several mistakes:
 - I had an out of date copy of Apple Modem Tool (only use >= version 1.1)
 - I put all the Navigation strings into a single STR# field
 - Debugging  was painful because I didn't realize that you can log all bytes 
       (STR# ID 1000, String 71 set to 32)
 - I didn't realize that my POP server was a different machine from
       the one I normally log into.

On the other hand, UIUC FTP archives had the wrong version of
Comm Tool Box available.  Beyond this, those Appendix D instructions 
are terse, with only a single example to follow.  A couple screenshots
of Resedit screens would help, as would a few more examples.

Was it worth it?  You Betcha!  Here is one happy astronomer.  
Eudora works smoothly and happily.  I'm impressed and delighted:
This is a superb software package.  

Thank you Steve Dorner, wherever you are.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm