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From: rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com (Greg Ferguson)
Subject: Re: cx: 32-bit clean?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 07:02:30 GMT

In article <1i01rsINNer2@shelley.u.washington.edu>, cent@u.washington.edu
(Bob Cent) wrote:
> 
> Some time ago I remember that Mac users were quite upset that not all the
> Mac II computers were using  true 32-bit addressing (maybe just the cx). 
> In fact, people were pressuring Apple to issue new ROMs to rectify the
> matter.
> 

Several machines were not 32bit clean. The II, IIx, IIcx stand out in my
mind.

> Does anyone remember what this was all about and why don't we hear about
> it anymore?

Apple advertised the machines as being able to handle the larger RAM
capacities when the 4Meg RAM chips densities were finally shipping. This is
when we only dreamed about Macs with more than 8 Meg RAM. (We lusted after
8M and dreamed of more).

The ROMs didn't handle 32bit addressing correctly, so even if the RAM was
available, it couldn't be accessed so it would be a waste to install it.

Connectrix(?) wrote a program that patched the dirty parts of the ROM
called Mode 32. Apple hemmed and hawed and twiddled their thumbs while the
user's got pissed and magazines threatened class action suits against Apple
for false advertising. Eventually, Apple bought the rights to distribute
Mode32 for free. Their alternative was to ship 32bit clean ROMs to the
people who bought the 32bit dirty machines.

You can get Mode32 from FTP.APPLE.COM or SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU.

> I am inquiring because it has been mentioned that I should be compiling
> new Think Pascal/MacApp applications in 32-bit mode (?).  Please fill me
> in if you are aware of this because it is news to me.

 You can compile 32bit clean code on a IIcx, however, you won't be able to
test it without Mode32.

Greg Ferguson
Programmer/Engineer
Desktop Networking System
SPS, World Marketing
Motorola, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com (Sandiway Fong)
Subject: Powerbook 185C
Originator: sandiway@gb
Reply-To: sandiway@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 07:25:34 GMT


Hi,
    I'm hoping to hear from those you have received their Powerbooks 180
through the normal channels? How long did you have to wait?

I have one on order from the beginning of November. As of December 23rd, I
have still not received it. I am thinking of cancelling my order next week and
waiting until the 185C is announced and ordering that instead. Especially
since the 185C is supposed to be out 2Q93 and I may not receive my 180 until
sometime in 1Q93 anyway. Also, since the 185C is supposed to use an industry
standard VGA-like 640x480 active-matrix color panel, there could be less of a
delay in getting that.

(Last year I ordered my 170, now promised to someone, about the end of October
and didn't receive one until the beginning of January.)

However, I'm not sure I can do without a mac for 6 months. Advice please? (The
danger is I could break down and buy a color 486SX notebook during the long
wait.)

Thanks very much,

Sandiway

---
Dr. Sandiway Fong
NEC Research Institute Inc.
4 Independence Way
Princeton NJ 08540

(609) 951-2733
(609) 951-2482 (FAX)
From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac IIvx
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:39:19 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <1992Dec16.204624.10470@linus.mitre.org> (m19701) writes:
>Does anyone know what is happening at Apple to cause the 4-6 weeks delivery
>times for the Mac IIvx?  When I bought (pre-paid) for a Mac IIvx system (3
>weeks ago) I was told they'd be in on the next truck.  Then told "the next
>del., now I'm told maybe by the end of January?  Because I'm getting the
>system w/ CD, monitor, exkeyb, and 12 meg of memory for about $3600, I'm
>reluctant to can the order (love student/corporate prices), however . . .
>
>I'm being told that there are hardware problems (w/ CD drive), the plant's
>shut down for the holidays, Apple screwed up and didn't plan for the
>holiday season (PPP = piss poor planning), and that Apple is only shipping
>to the West Coast at this time.  "Strategic Allocation" is one of the buzz
>words that keeps popping up.
>
>Does anyone out there know?  I'm sure I'm not alone with this question. 
>And my wife hates the idea of lossing interest on an already cashed check.
>







Don't know who is telling you there are hardware problems with the drive.  I
received my IIvx with CDROM last week and have not found any problems yet.
The drive works fine as far as I can tell and I have spent a lot of time
useing it already.  Apple is having problem with the large demand for the vx
and the Performa 600.  The demand is so high they just cannot produce them
fast enough.  I ordered through the developer program on 11/20. Was told
deivery was 10 weeks. Received the unit on 12/17.  The are trickling out now.
Apple says they expect to be cauget up by late January or early February.

The only problem I have heard of is something to do with the MIDI interface
when receiving or sending large files.  Even that problem may not really be
the vx and the jury is still out.  I have already excercised the MIDI ports
with the limited software I have and see nothing wrong.

Howard Kaplan









Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Steve Christensen <stevec@apple.com>
Subject: Re: HD spindown
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:16:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <103099@netnews.upenn.edu> , george@mech.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>you can send a siginal to scsi drives to park the heads, which
>in some cases ( like my internal quantum ) the drive responds
>by spinning down. ( pretty neat, but not too useful.. )
>
>There is an init called scsi saver that is supposed to send the
>head park signal after a period of inacitvity.  It doesn't work
>at all for me though.

This only works for drives that support the command, so there's
not a general -guaranteed- method of doing this for desktop
Macs...

steve
From: tompkins@dream11.ibmpcug.co.uk (Eric L. Tompkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: sources for Mac->SVGA cables
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:04:13 GMT
Organization: Dream Engineering
Reply-To: tompkins@dream11.ibmpcug.co.uk (Eric L. Tompkins)
Distribution: comp
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Dec28.155944.3587@meiko.com> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), hardesty@meiko.com (Robert Hardesty) writes:
> gleicher@CS.CMU.EDU (Michael Gleicher) writes:
> : 
> : The usual suspects (macwherehouse, macconnection) came up blank. . .
> : 
> : Can someone please tell me some sources for cables so I can hook an SVGA
> : monitor up to my mac? (mail-order places prefered)
> : 
> : (BTW: I'd like to get a cable which would let me set the sense pins to various
> : configurations. I've heard that such things exist. One I've heard of has
> : different plugs which you swap for each monitor type.)
> : 
> : 
> 
> I asked a question like this about a month ago, and thanks to the information
> that Tuomas Eerola gave me I was able to wire up an adaptor that allowed me
> to connect my Mac SE/30 to a SVGA monitor.  It was very simple to wire up.
>  The pin out is below.  

Note that this pinout is specific to a particular SE/30 video board.

Eric

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman)
Subject: Two-page monochrome monitor recommendation?
Organization: The Law Society of Upper Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:37:37 GMT

I have a IIci with an Apple Portrait Display that I've used for about 3 years.
I need more screen space for projects I'm working on.  (I write reference
books on tax law; mostly I use HyperCard with huge cards that fill the
screen with all kinds of text fields for annotations of various kinds.
The books are published by a major law publisher, so I don't need DTP
functionality.)

I need a two-page (21-inch) monitor.  Black-and-white is fine; I don't
use colour or gray scales.  I have received quotes on the RasterOps 2110
(Hitachi Grayscale monitor) with either a 1-bit or an 8-bit RasterOps card
(the 8-bit is about $100 more), and the SuperMac Platinum 21" Mono Display
with a SuperMac 1-bit mono card.

One of the sales reps tells me that SuperMac is a bit better at controlling
distortion near the edge of the screen.  Unfortunately, I can't actually
look at either of these monitors because neither store keeps them in stock.

Quality of the display is important to me, since I work with a lot of small
text on the screen at once and will need to use the edges of the screen.
Performance (on my IIci with a LogiCache card) is also important; pretty much
all I use is HyperCard and Word 4.0, and I'm running System 6.0.5.

Does anyone have any experience with either the RasterOps or the SuperMac
two-page displays?  Also, if I add the two-page display and continue to use
my portrait display as well, will I likely have performance problems?
Since I've never worked in anything but black&white, and don't intend to,
should the 1-bit card be sufficient for my needs?
All comments appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

David Sherman
Toronto
dave@lsuc.on.ca
416-889-7658
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: IIci memory configuration question
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:06:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


   20 Megs is definitely OK, you just need 32 bit addressing, 

    BUT:  be carefull.  The way you described it "taking out the
          quarter meg chips and slotting the 4 megs" won't work.
          Remember you have an "A" bank and a "B" bank and the
          biggest simms have to be in the "A" bank.  So you have
          to move your 1 meg simms to the slots the quarters are
          in, and slot the 4 megs into the bank the 1 megs were
          in.  If you have any questions, or if I just made things
          more confusing feel free to e-mail.


                                        -- Nick


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From: sls16@po.CWRU.Edu (Samuel L. Shank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Reccomendations for a PB160 monitor.
Date: 1 Jan 1993 17:52:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I would like to get a color monitor for my PB160 at as little cost as possible.
I would also like it to be PC compatable, as I may be getting one in the near
future.  Thanks,
-- 
Sam Shank
sls16@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Re: Macintosh Speed Comparisons: Table [v2.0]
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:36:50 GMT

i was looking at your table and noticed that the classic and the classic 2
had the same speed ratings. something has to be wrong here as the classic
has merely a 68000 and the 2 has a 68030. besides i was just playing with
a classic this weekend and i have a 2 at home and the classic feels about
1/2 as fast as it's successor.
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: IIci memory configuration question
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 08:11:57 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello) writes:

>    20 Megs is definitely OK, you just need 32 bit addressing, 
> 
>     BUT:  be carefull.  The way you described it "taking out the
>           quarter meg chips and slotting the 4 megs" won't work.
>           Remember you have an "A" bank and a "B" bank and the
>           biggest simms have to be in the "A" bank.

This is not true on the IIci. You can put SIMMs of any size in either
bank, as long as all the SIMMs in any particular bank are of the same
size. If you're using internal video it's better to have the biggest
SIMMs in bank B. 

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Eric Topp <topp@roses.stanford.edu>
Subject: Sun/NeXT monitor on a mac?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75E052F910100EA@cdr-va-macs2-dynamic.stanford.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 23 Dec 92 11:59:43 GMT
Organization: Rehabilitation R&D Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 19:56:07 GMT

I have a 17 in Sony Trinitron monitor (GDM-1604A40) from a Sun 3/60.
I'd like to use it with a mac, but I haven't found a card with the right
timing.  It should work at 1120 x 832 with a 67 Hz refresh rate.  This is
very near the timing for NeXT monitors, and in fact it works perfectly on
a
NeXT. Curiously, there seems to be no adjustment for vertical sync.  If I
could
find that adjustment, I might be able to make it work at 75Hz like the
larger
trinitrons.

Anyone know of a Nubus card to drive this guy or how to tweak the
vertical 
sync on this monitor?

Thanks,

-=E

topp@roses.stanford.edu
From: Tom.Langseth@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Langseth)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: POWER SWITCH ON IIX
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:28:00 -0500

Well, if that's all it is, I can replace it myself.  No warranty left
to void on this IIx....  I suppose it's a Lithium cell.  Can anyone
tell me for sure the type and voltage of the battery?

There are two of them, side by side.  They are lithium and I
believe the voltage is 3.6.  They can be had from any reputable
electronics supply house.  They usually come with 2" pre-tinned
leads on either end, which can be soldered into the board or
snipped off - see next para.

They are not necessarily soldered onto the board.  In some of
the late issue IIx logic boards, they are in little plastic
battery boxes.  Look and your board and see what your configuration
is.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Sean_P._Peisert@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:45:31 PST
Subject: Deskwriter out of memory

Using my HP Deskwriter 550C, I have experienced "Out of Memory" problems, at
least according to my PrintMonitor.  I  am running my LC with 6 megs of ram
and the problem comes with MS Word 5.1.  It's my opinion that the system has
expanded beyond its bounds, so I shut off all the extensions and it seemed to
work.  Thing is I don't want to have to do that every time.  Is there another
solution?  Without turning off background printing or without turning off HP Fonts,
or without shutting off extensions?  Thanks in advance!

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: yhuang@IASTATE.EDU (Yun-Ching Huang)
Subject: Which hard drive is the quietest?
Reply-To: yhuang@IASTATE.EDU (Yun-Ching Huang)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:21:06 GMT

I plan to buy a internal hard drive about 170 Mb in 

capacity, my major concern is not the speed but the 

noise it may generate.

Please give me some suggestions about which manufacturor

, Quntum, Conner, Maxter, etc., makes the quietest hard

disk. I will use the hard disk in a Mac IIsi.

Thanks.
From: Michael.Davidson@macrocosm.omahug.org (Michael Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Cleaning moldy floppies
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:14:01 CST
Reply-To: michael.davidson@macrocosm.omahug.org
Organization: The MacRocosm BBS, Lawrence, KS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

David Brightbill enquired:

>A friend had a hard disk crash and lost months worth of work.  She had a
>recent backup on floppys but it had been through the humidity hell of the deep
>south and had developed a dusting of mold.  The backups won't read and
>inserting one in the floppy drive causes the drive to be unusable until it is
>cleaned.

>Does anyone have a clue as to how we might clean these disks up and get them
>back ?????????

I think you should get a mac head to examine your hard drive and try to
recovver all you can with a utility program.
Concerning the moldy floppies: use lighter fluid to clean them. I've used it
many times to clean disk labels off. it works great; never had a problem yet.
It doesn't hurt the media if it gets on it. And, its cheep. 

Hope this helps.
Liberty,
Michael
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook 185C
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:13:20 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <1992Dec24.072534.4330@research.nj.nec.com> sandiway@research.nj.nec.com (Sandiway Fong) writes:

>I am thinking of cancelling my order next week and
>waiting until the 185C is announced and ordering that instead. Especially
>since the 185C is supposed to be out 2Q93 and I may not receive my 180 until
>sometime in 1Q93 anyway. Also, since the 185C is supposed to use an industry
>standard VGA-like 640x480 active-matrix color panel, there could be less of a
>delay in getting that.

Even the overly optimistic rumor mill admits that the unacknowledged
PowerBook 185C is a long shot. A poor supply of color screens could kill
such a project very quickly. If you need a mac NOW order one now. Even if
the 185C does become a reality I wouldn't expoect it to ship any faster
than the 180 is. You'd just be screwing yourself if you cancel your PB 180
order.

>However, I'm not sure I can do without a mac for 6 months. Advice please? (The
>danger is I could break down and buy a color 486SX notebook during the long
>wait.)

Well we can't have that :-)
Take the 180 and be happy. Let someone else beta test the first generation
of color PowerBooks.

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

       "Economic deprivation makes freedom less relevant to a people."
				- Paul E. Tsongas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com (Greg Ferguson)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter a good buy?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:41:53 GMT

In article <C03usw.GB3@world.std.com>, rmartin@world.std.com (Rich A
Martin) wrote:
> 
> StyleWriter? I'm considering the purchase of one. Laser printers and
> PostScript are beyond my budget, but business-quality printouts
> are an important feature. The StyleWriter seems to offer good
> image quality for a reasonable price, but the stories I've heard
> about its slowness make me wonder. Just how long does it take to
> print a double-spaced, single-font (TrueType) page? My daily
> volume will be *quite* low -- occasionally 20 pages in a day,
> usually 4 or 5 pages per day.
>  I would welcome any thoughts you might have about the StyleWriter,
> as well as any recommendations for a good printer under $500.
>  Thanx in advance,
>                                -Rich Martin
> 
> -- 
>                                      -Rich Martin

I use my StyleWriter for presentations occasionally. It does a very good
job with Canvas output if you use *good* paper which is designed for an
inkjet. Standard copier paper will bleed too badly and will ruin the
clarity. Speed is livable, but I don't know how many ppm.

Apple is releasing the StyleWriter II (probably at MacWorld next week).
It's much faster, cheaper and will offer 16(?) shades of gray. It's also
supposed to be shareable on LocalTalk.

I've seen printouts and it looked very nice.

Greg Ferguson
Programmer/Engineer
Desktop Networking System
SPS, World Marketing
Motorola, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jhs@ipsa.reuter.com (Henri Schueler)
Subject: Re: Sony 1304S monitor vs. Multiple Resolutions in 24xp video board
Organization: H&h Software, Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:52:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.060314.6265@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> pector@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (scott.w.pector) writes:
> ...
>Sony calls the monitor and Multiscan Color Computer Display.  Its specs say
>it has 1024x768 viewable pixels, the vertical sync signal frequency is
>55-110 Hz, and the Horizontal sync signal frequency is 28-57kHz.  From the
>spec timing charts, it supports 1024x768 interlace, 800x600 noninterlace,
>and 2 types of 1024x768 noninterlace.  Presumably, there are other noninterlace
>resolutions supported.  I adjust the screen size manually per Sony's instructions
>for non PCs.
>
>Any knowledge about whether the Sony 1304S will support the Radius 24xp's
>832x624 mode?  (I've given up on Radius and Sony.)  Presumably it doesn't matter
>which manufacturer's video board is being asked about since the question is more
>about the use of multiple resolutions with the 1304S monitor with the
>MacII family.
>

The question isn't just about resolution, but about resolution combined with
vertical frequency. For example, I am using an Apple 16" monitor in a standard
fashion (i.e. an 832x624 resolution and 72Hz vertical).  

Compare this with my oldish (1991 vintage) Sony 1304HG monitor. Its specs say
up to 1024x768, and also 50-87 Hz vertical (quite a bit less than your
Sony 1304S!), but I know it can't even do 70Hz at 1024x768 (just 60Hz).
There is a chance that it can do 75Hz at 832x624, since 60*768/624 = 74,
but I'd want to try before I bought.

/jhs
p.s. does the Radius video boards run at a fixed 75Hz vertical?

-- 
J. Henri Schueler, H&h Software, Toronto	+1 416 698 9075
From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Flopticals anyone?
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:11:36 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Anyone have any opinions on the 21 meg Flopticals?  Are they 
reliable?  Bad sectors?  Is there a 40 meg Floptical coming out soon??

	
			Jon Temple
			Dept of Psychology
			University of Cincinnati
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter a good buy?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: NCSA
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:37:17 GMT

According to MacWeek 23 November or InfoWorld 30 November (I'm not sure
which), the StyleWriter II runs at 2 ppm.

James
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pauls@ll.mit.edu (Richard Pauls)
Subject: Re: New fan for SE
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:54:29 GMT

In article <2b386186.5a2@chv.lincoln.cri.nz> srcriro@chv.lincoln.cri.nz writes:
>I was wanting to quieten the fan on my SE, by replacing it and noticed that it
>actually SUCKS instead of blowing, as it were. It draws air into the Mac thru 
>the floppy ports and the vents front & side. 
>
>I was proposing to install the replacement fan reversed so it sucked air thru 
>a filter and blew cleaned air thru the Mac.
>
>Can anyone forsee problems with this?
>
>Tootle pip.....Ian O
>
>aka Ian Orchard, SCItest Lab, Industrial Research Ltd, ChCh NZ
>

The fan is probably near the power supply.  If you reverse the fan dirrectionso that it blows into the computer, then you will be warming up the whole
inside of your machine with heat from the power supply.  It is probably
better to leave it is it was designed, that is, blowing out of the machine.
I'm sure the dirrection was considered durring design.  My IIci blows out.
--Rich