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From: hamster@zikzak.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: WANTED - Lucasfilm THX Demo Laserdisc
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:39:40 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
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Keywords: Laserdisc

This may be a tall order, but heck, nothing ventured, nothing gained, so...

I'm after (and have been for a while) the demo laserdisc that purchasers
of THX home systems are reported to get when the buy. It's called, I
believe, "Wow!" and contains not only excerpts from Lucasfilm movies to
demo surround sound, but also one or more of the THX trailers themselves. 

I know this disc does exist, as excerpts from it have been played on the
NBC Today show during a story on Skywalker Ranch...

I am willing to pay any REASONABLE price for this disc, so if you've got
one and don't really need it around, please mail me... :-)




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From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Greatest Movies of All Time
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:43:28 GMT
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

>5:  A Dingo Stole My Baby  (great Australian film

Didn't they remake this as an American film called THE GOOD MOTHER or A CRY 
IN THE DARK or something like that?
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: movies with older man/younger woman
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:38:06 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <3220100@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gorrindo@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Sue Gorrindo) writes:
>There was a movie out in the late 70s that I can't remember the name of.
>Starred William Holden and Kay Lenz - she being a flower child hitching
>a ride, who ends up going home with Holden and staying a while.



"Breezy"?
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From: peschko@seasnake.micro.umn.edu (Edward Peschko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: APOCALYPSE NOW (Was Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.)
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:09:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <1992Dec15.164530@usho72.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:


> Yep, the waterbuffalo was really slaughtered.  As I remember it...

> According to the Oscar winning THE MAKING OF APOCALYPSE NOW, the
> crew were taking a break from filming and the villagers were off 
> celebrating some kinda of holiday or something.  Some of the crew
> went but soon came running back to get FFC and took him to see the
> _sacrifice_ for real.  So impressed he was with the whole ceremony,
> he put it in the film to symbolize the _slaughtering_ of Kurtz/Brando.

> After arguing for several days over WHY Kurtz/Brando should say a
> simple line, someone said they could've save a animal by just sticking 
> some horns on Brando.  ;)

NO KIDDING! Marlon Brando has SOME NERVE to ask for how many bejillions of 
dollars ,get to the set a half-year late and then finally confess that he 
has not read 'Heart of Darkness' in preparation for the part of Kurtz.


The man's ego could stop a freight train.

Ed
From: csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:18:12 GMT

From article <1992Dec20.145422.10366@Virginia.EDU>, by tlc9y@Virginia.EDU ("tara lou"):
> you do not have to be a lesbian or an abused survivor in order
> to believe that our society dictates men's satisfaction over
> women's..i see beer commercials that satisfy men's needs [i
> drink beer, too], sportscar commercials [i would like one,
> too], and many other instances where men's pleasure is the
> aim..not women's.

Gee Tabitha...Where have you been for the past 20years...
Beer commercials fall into two catagories.  The manly
ones get satisfied and the not so manly, eg. what about all
those lite bear commercials esp Amstel lite...if they aren't
aimed at a feminine audience, what is?

Sportscars commercials...a certain percentage of sports
and performance truck commercials are aimed at women, eg,
STAY WITHIN THE LINES, THE LINES ARE OUR FRIENDS  and
PUTNEY SAYS, " The Borman 6 girl got to have soul"
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From: wbwaller@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (William Brad Waller)
Subject: Swing Kids release date--any new news?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:00:32 GMT

It was supposed to come out last August, but was put on hold "without
explanation." Now it's reappeared in the "Movie Facts" pamphlet that many
theaters carry ("good through Feb. 28, 1993"). Does anyone have anyone news on
when this movie might be coming out???

Thanx in advance,

Brad

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From: peschko@salmon.micro.umn.edu (Edward Peschko)
Subject: Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:41:44 GMT

Overrated: Kevin Costner (I AM SORRY -- Untouchables was an abomination, as
			was Dances with Wolves.)
Underrated: Elisha Cook (too many movies to mention -- he is always the punk
sized runt who tries do be a 'real man' and fails miserably..)
			Harry Dean Stanton (he has a cult following but far too many people
don't take him seriously.)

Overrated actress: Meryl Streep (she's a high-class 'soap' actor, but 'soap'
should not be mistaken for art.)
Underrated: Helen Mirren (Excalibur, The Cook, Thief, Wife and Her Lover,
						 several bit parts.)


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From: pkedrosk@student.business.uwo.ca (Paul S. Kedrosky)
Subject: The Coen Bros - Anybody know their next project?
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:49:59 GMT

Hiya, anyone have any idea what Joel and Ethan's next/current project
is? I'm curious and haven't heard anything at all since some
interviews they gave after Barton Fink won the Palme d'Or at Cannes.

Paul


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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Gifted Child Stars
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:33:40 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Greg Bole writes:
>
>Off the top of my head:
>
>	Lucas Haas (wonderful in _Witness_ and seems to be making the 
>		trasition into non-child actor in _Rambling Rose_ and
>		_Leap of Faith_)

  Check out Haas in "The Lady in White." A low budget, home grown horror
movie made in upstate New York. Particularly if you have kids who 
want to see a good scary movie. _Lady in White_ is a "for kids" horror movie...
so none of the usual grumbling by the sophomoronic crowd looking for 
entrails.
-- 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: If Ming is not Max von Sydow, then who is Ming and who is Max?
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:43:52 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <rcbaaw.725127749@rw6.urc.tue.nl>, rcbaaw@rw6.urc.tue.nl 
(Angelo Wentzler) writes:

> A friend of mine asked me who played Ming in the movie "Flash Gordon" (1980)
> The only possible one would seem to be Max von Sydow, but he looks so 
> different from Ming!  (Could be the make-up of course...)
 
> If Ming is not Max von Sydow, then who is Ming and who is Max?

Max was Ming, Ming was Max.  One fish, two fish, red fish, blue...

Ooops...sorry.  

For similarly bizarre and fun character role for Max check him out
as King Osric in _Conan the Barbarian_.  I bet both those roles 
must have been fun for him to play.

And on a totally different, but related note...I met Brian Blessed 
(_Henry V_, "I, Claudius", "Black Adder", _Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves_)
at a book signing recently in Kingston, England.  He said that his favorite
film role ever was as the King of the Hawk-people in _Flash Gordon_.

Greg Bole                         "I have crossed oceans of time to find you."
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         Gary Oldman in _Bram Stoker's Dracula_
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From: bjones@denitqm.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:14:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.152851.9687@ccd.harris.com>,
dht@controls.ccd.harris.com (Danh Tran) wrote:
> 
> The only reason that I rent movies at BB is because of its foreign selection.
> At least it is better than other stores.  Other than that, $3.00/movie/2nights
> is overprice, IMO.  I usually go to Phar-Mor.  Cheap price.  
> $0.89+tax/movie/2 nights or $1.99+tax/3 movies/2 nights.  Why pay 3 bucks for
> a rented movie while you can get the same one at Phar-Mor for just $0.89. 
> 
> Danh Tran

Wow, don't know where you live but if BlockBlister has the best selection
of foreign movies in your area, then the pickins must be slim.

The town I live in (Boulder, CO) has this great video store called the
Video Station. The people who work there love film and are very, very
knowledgable about it. The have a huge selection of foreign movies.

Every town deserves a store like that. I remember my days college
days in Montana.....Would've killed to have a store even as lame
as LackLuster Video move into town.
 
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to watch the shadow of his simian stoop leave mangled flowers in its wake, 
as the monstrous darkness approaches."--V. Nabokov _Signs and Symbols_
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There was a movie out in the late 70s that I can't remember the name of.
Starred William Holden and Kay Lenz - she being a flower child hitching
a ride, who ends up going home with Holden and staying a while.
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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Batman Sequels
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:06:56 GMT
Keywords: Burton, animation, Montreal International Film Festival

In article <1992Dec22.035533.28575@cc.umontreal.ca>,
durandm@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Durand Martin) writes:
> Burton said, when he was honored last august at the Montreal International
> Film Festival, that he would like to get back to drawing. He told us that he
> began his career by working at Disney Studios as an animator. His next
project
> would be to direct an animated film. So it's most probable that he won't
> direct BATMAN III, if BATMAN III there is...
> 

  Over in the rec.arts.disney group, someone mentioned that
  Burton is doing an animated film for Disney that will be
  released towards the end of next year.  I think it's going
  to be called something like the Nightmare Before Christmas
  (don't quote me on the name).

jan
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:53:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.080055.7355@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>Greg Bole (bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3cm2!fp@rpi.edu>, kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>: 
>: > Overrated:
>: >   Actor - Kevin Costner
>: 
>: Ok, ok, after seeing Kevin Costner pop up on 5 out of the last 5 
>: "overrated actor" postings, I have to speak up.
>: 
>: What are you all using as criteria?  Does he make too much money?
>: Does he show up in too many movies?  Does he get talked about in the 
>: press too much?
>
>He's boring...:-)
>
>He plays the same character in every film, same monotone voice all the
>time... I mean Robin Hood was born in England.. At least he should of
>made an effort....!!!
>
>
>-- 
SAME CHARACTER?? No. Just to name a few, he seemed quite different to me
in No Way Out, Field of Dreams, Bull Durham, and Dances with Wolves. I
agree Robin Hood wasn't a really good one, but it would be quite
difficult to point out many good actors out there who haven't made a
bomb or two.

Feli.
From: tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 23 December 1993
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C077nx.1z8.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <76028@apple.apple.COM> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>I think, however, that the failure of X to perfrom well is
>a surprise to a lot of people (myself included, actually).

Not to me. About half of the people I've talked to about X said
they didn't want to watch "three hours of being told how evil
white men are."

I think that is insensitive, and downright stupid myself, but
I don't doubt that these attitudes have a fairly strong hold
on a large portion of the movie-going audience.

The movie X may or may not have been three hours of telling white
men how evil they are, but prejudging the movie based on a
non-existent knowledge of what Malcolm X said and did (at least
in the people I talked to) is pretty stupid.

Not to bring in a conspiracy or anything, but when I went to
see X, it had been out for only two weeks, but had already been
moved to the smallest screen in the theater. I wondered if
perhaps the theater-owners had pegged the movie as a
"minority" film. If this is true, perhaps there are some theater
owners who decided not to show X, thinking it would not have
a wide appeal.

My random thoughts
Tim
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From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:34:19 GMT

barnum@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Jennifer Barnum) writes:

>>        According to rumor from friends who refuse to patronize BB,
>>BB is a conservative dominated corporation.  Just as Dominoes contributes
>>portions of its pizza profits to the Right-To-Life crowd, so does BB.
>>Additional conservative anti-civil liberties organizations (PMRC type
>>stuff) are suppossedly also supported by a portion of BB profits.


>Thanks for the tip.  Now I know that Blockbuster is the place to go!!

Since there's no smiley above, I'll chime in with:

When I found out about BB's support of these organizations, I decided
that BB is *not* the way to go.  Unfortunately, they effectively put all
of the other video houses in my hometown out of business, so I just
stopped renting videos.

Just another data point,
Bob

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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: SHAKES THE CLOWN
Keywords: Shakes the Clown,Bobcat Goldthwait
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:27:44 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Dec27.182456.26474@edsi.plexus.COM> lon@edsi.plexus.COM (Lon Ponschock) writes:
>
>a twisted view of the life of a clown.  Sort of like
>Emmet Kelly meets BARFLY.  These clowns have their own
>hangout  called the Twisted Balloon at which they have
>their drinks... in costume.  Performers such as Adam
>(Opera Man) Sandler from _Saturday Night Live_ never
>appear out of makeup.

I'm not so sure that they are in costume. They *are* clowns.

>SHAKES did not receive good notices when it came out.
Shakes is (IMO, of course) one of the best films ever, but whoever
packaged the video should be crushed by a falling piano. The video
cover makes it look like another John Candy feel good bring the kids
flick. This will drive away those who would really like it (Pax, are
you listening) and *really* offend those who rent it as such and take
it home to the family.

>The film will make more sense if you take the following
>hint: run the film down to the end and listen to the
>song over the credits, then start the film fresh.

Not a bad idea.

>Like the commercial says, "You're a grown up.  You
>can do anything you want."  SHAKES will make more sense
>if you do.

Goldwaith described it as The last temptation of Bozo.

>There is a lot of crude humor in the film and it works.
>If you are open to that sort of thing, you'll have many
>good yucks.

It's important to note that none of the humor is crude just to be
crude. We're not talking Porkys here, just the bottomed out life of
an alchoholic.

>makeup. But with all of his drinking and womanizing,
>Shakes is still a bit super human and magical in his
>ability to jump and spin as no ordinary man could do.

This isn't a film about clowns. It's about alchoholism but done 
without most of the usual preaching. At least what preaching there
is comes across better knowing that Goldwaith is speaking to himself.

>Your opinions are welcome.


Good review. I hope I didn't come off as flaming your post, I wasn't.
I just took this film to heart I guess. By the way, this movie has
one of the all time classic lines in it. Picture a clown in full 
makeup throwing an obnoxious father up against a wall and telling 
him "You so much as talk to me and I'll twist your head into a fucking
balloon animal".
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movie Review: "The Lover" -- Article
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:29:58
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In-reply-to: dht@controls.ccd.harris.com's message of 29 Dec 92 06:43:44 GMT

dht@controls.ccd.harris.com (Danh Tran) writes:

> tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx) writes:

> >        Indeed, the movie is already out on videotape in Chinese version
> >(I just rent it!) but the English version is probably not out yet. 

> What is the Chinese title ("The Lover") of the videotape?  Thanks.

This has nothing to do with David Letterman.  Please remove
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:50:26 GMT

>I care.  If an ACTOR is going to assume the role of an Englishman, then he
>should ACT like one.

How's about an English actor playing a French guy on TV, but speaking like
an Englishman and looking like a Sleestak?
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From: malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Academy Awards
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:41:38 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1hqbheINN15b@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>So it's about time to think about the nominees.
>
>My list:
>Howard's End
>A Few Good Men
>Malcolm X
>The Player
>Unforgiven
>

IMHO, 

Best Picture
------------
Unforgiven (Winner)
The player
Howards End
Malcolm X
Hoffa

Best Director
-------------
Clint Eastwood (Winner)
Spike Lee 
Roger Altman
James Ivory
Neil Jordan (for - The crying game)

Best Actor
----------
Clint Eastwood
Denzel Washington (Winner)
Jack Nicholson (for Hoffa)
Robert Downey Jr. (for Chaplin)
Tim Robbins ?????? (for - The Player)

Best Actress 
------------
Emma Thompson (Winner)
Geena Davis 
??????? (for - Enchanted April)
???????
???????

Best Supporting Actor
--------------------
Gene Hackman (Winner)
Jack Nicholson  (for - A few good men)
Forest Whitaker (I know he won't be nominated, but he deserves a
                 nomination for - The Crying Game)
???????
???????


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Manish
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:47:23 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec19.012739.210@uts.uni-c.dk> idathon@uts.uni-c.dk  
(Hans O. Nymand) writes:
> Kim Basinger
> Arnold Schwarzzenegge
> 
I agree with Basinger, but have to disagree with Arnold. He is
rather limited as an actor, but he does the things he is
good at very well indeed.  He is very good in both
Teminator films, as well as in Commando (which, because of 
Arnold and his sense of humor) is far better than similar films
with Stallone, Van Damme, etc.  Arnold is also good in
comedies: look at Kindergarten Cop.

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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: Citizen Kane question
Keywords: Citizen Kane 
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:13:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.003118.23186@cs.uow.edu.au> davidr@cs.uow.edu.au (David Ian Raymond) writes:
>Hi,
>  I watched Citizen Kane yesterday. I was a bit let down by the ending but
>I suspect that I didn't catch the significance of it all.
>  What was the thing that they threw in the fire at the end with Rosebud
>written on it and what was its significance? I was led to believe that the
>whole mystery would be revealed in the last few moments, so I think this must
>have been a key to the mystery. Could someone please explain it all to me?
>
>		Thanks, David.

The thing in the fire was Kane's sled that he had as a child.

So, he was thinking of his sled "Rosebud" before he died.

Now, the significance of the sled is what everyone debates about.

Should we start it up?

Flip


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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:40:52 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

peschko@salmon.micro.umn.edu (Edward Peschko) writes:
[...]
> Underrated: Harry Dean Stanton (he has a cult following but far too
                many people don't take him seriously.)

Yeah, what he said. I once read that by definition, there is no such thing as
a "bad movie with Harry Dean Stanton"

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