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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Routing on a 3.11 file server.

Ramon Ros writes....
>
>
>     It seems that whenever you install more than one lan boards on
> different cabling systems, (in our case Token-ring and Ethernet), in
> a file server, it becomes automatically a router. Is this true?
yes
>     In affirmative case, do you have any control on this routing? How
no
> you can stop it?.
you can't

Novell Servers advertise all known networks on all interfaces, once
every 60 seconds. These are collected by other servers on the network,
and re-advertised with the hop-count incremented by one.
[this is similar to RIP in the TCP/IP world]

There is (unfortunately) no way for you to configure the routing
tables in the fileserver - packets will just follow the path with the
shortest hop-count, regardless of the speed of the routers.

If you have cisco routers, and multiple-paths between Novell networks
you can get them to share the load between the links. I haven't tried
this, as I don't have multiple paths...

When a server is 'down'ed it 'poisons' all the routes on all
interfaces by broadcasting a hop-count of 16 (the maximum).
This causes adjacent routers to select a new route to the networks (if
possible). Incidentally the Fileserver also poisons the routes if you
type 'reset router'

To see all of this in action type 'track on' on the fileserver
console

To dump the routing table type 'display networks' this displays a list
of all the networks, together with the hop-count from the file server
process.

Richard
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:05:07 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      More on the security thread

        There has been a lot of discussion of the pair of cracker programs
which attempt to penetrate NetWare file servers. It seemed to me that folks
might want a method of talking to Novell about observed local security issues
and whether or not a new cracker has appeared, etc. So, for the moment
Janet Perry of Novell's Educational Division has volunteered to be the Mail
collecting agent for msgs of this kind to Novell. Her Email address is
        JANETP@NOVELL.COM               (note the "P")
Later, there might be a more obvious drop box address. Janet and Novell are
VERY interested in the security issues.
        So, rather than blurting all kinds of juicy details across the nets in
an attempt to be heard may I recommend first sending the material to Novell at
the above address, and then wait before feeling compelled to exert pressure
publicly.
        Thanks,
        Joe D.
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From:         "(James Bovee)" <boveejim@MAINRT.LUTHER.UNI.EDU>
Subject:      Norton NAV_.SYS Device and ODI LSL.COM

I have been loading software onto a new IBM PS/2 35 and I use the ODI
drivers.  I noted that while the Norton NAV@.SYS virus checking device is
loaded I can not load the LSL.COM file.  Has anyone noted this?  Is there
a fix?

Jim Bovee
Luther College Computer Center
Decorah, IA, USA 52101
(319) 387 1765
(boveejim@luther.uni.edu)
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Date: 3 Oct 92 22:36:00 GMT
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Thanks.  I'll try 'em and let you know.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:53:31 -0500
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From:         SJBUSH@LIFE.UAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: BNETX/Windows 3.1 Problem

Yes, I do beleive that you are correct,  it has been my experience
that Windows hangs on most everything.  The only one that I have seen
work consistantly is NETX,   BNETX, XMSNETX, NET5, etc.  all cause
a great deal of problems.

Sarah Bush
Consultant, University of Arknasas for Medical Sciences
SJBUSH@life.uams.edu
SJBUSH@life.bitnet
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From: DGH@herald.divinity.yale.edu (Duane Harbin)
Subject: Rprinter.exe and PS2 Model 50 SLOW!
Organization: Yale Divinity Library
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:32:58 GMT

I knew I was going to pay for ignoring all those Rprinter problem 
postings ...

I have recently switched out an old IBM XT/286 (For those of you who have 
never seen such a beast, it is an 6 MHz 286 with an ISA bus in an XT 
cabinet. I think IBM was trying to use up spare parts.) for an PS2 Model 50. 
The XT286 was running rprinter.exe quite satisfactorily. The Model 50 began 
to print slowly, on the order of one line every 2 minutes, and the output 
was garbled. I spent hours trying to figure where I'd screwed up, until I 
discovered that I got the same results with EVERY 50 and 50Z I tried, while 
the ISA bus machines worked fine. There is an odd caveat in the Novell Print 
Sharing manual about some machines working better than others. Somehow this 
strikes me as hedging the bet.

Anyhow, does anyone know if there is a way to tweek an IBM PS2 Model 50 or 
Model 50Z to perform acceptably with rprinter.exe?

Thanks.

Duane Harbin
Information Services Librarian
Yale Divinity School Library
409 Prospect Street
New Haven, CT 06511-2108 USA
203.432.5289
DGH@Herald.Divinity.Yale.Edu
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From: jmwobus@newstand.syr.edu (John M. Wobus)
Subject: Re: Offweek FAQ Reminder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:19:19 EDT

In article <DGH.40.718039166@herald.divinity.yale.edu>, DGH@herald.divinity.yale.edu (Duane Harbin) writes:
|> In article <9209280515.AA04569@info.umd.edu> "(Scott A. Jenkins)" <sjenkins@INFO.UMD.EDU> writes:

|> >FAQ Access Information:
|> >    To get the NOVELL@SUVM FAQ via ftp, ftp to info.umd.edu (128.8.10.29).
|> >Get either faq.txt (straight ASCII) or faq.wp (WordPerfect 5.1) from the
|> >info/Computers/Novell/Information directory.
|> 
|> When I attempt to follow these directions to retrieve the FAQ List by FTP, I 
|> find that there is no such directory. Am I doing something wrong, or has 
|> something changed?
|> 
|> Thanks.
|> 
|> Duane Harbin
|> Information Services Librarian
|> Yale Divinity School Library
|> 409 Prospect Street
|> New Haven, CT 06511-2108 USA
|> 203.432.5289
|> DGH@Herald.Divinity.Yale.Edu

I've started grabbing the FAQ document whenever it is mailed and saving
it on syr.edu.  It is in the directory novell/papers under the name
FAQ-novell-mailing-list.  Also in the same directory is the FAQ document
for comp.sys.novell which is similar.

John Wobus
Syracuse University
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Subject:      Anyone have an IBM model 8595-OMT machine with...

16 meg of ram and a 1 gig scsi hard drive and have Novell's Netware 3.11
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From:         "Bruce A. Knack" <BKNACK@FAS.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      TCP/IP and Clarkson's ipx.com

Hi:

I recently purchased an Elite 10T/A card from SMC.  To date I have
used WD8003a/et cards, but it looks like Western Digital got bought
out.

Anyway, I used to use a program called WD8003.exe as a TCP/IP packet
driver and then Clarkson's ipx.com program.  Needless to say, the
WD8003.exe program doesn't seem to work properly (at all!) with this
new card.

What I'ld like to know is:  does anyone know of a packet driver for
this card that WILL work with Clarkson's ipx.com program.  Please
note that I realize I could gen a special ipx.com for this card, but,
for organizational uniformity, I would prefer not to do so.

Here are the specs:
  Card:  Micro-channel EtherCard Plus Elite10T/A (8013WP/A).
  Wiring:  The card supports AUI and twisted pair, I am using twisted
           pair.

Cheers,
Bruce.

P.S.:  I will make up a compilation of all suggestions, (and
       hopefully the one that works and mail same to any interested
       parties).
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Financial & Administrative Services
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Canada

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:17:40 -0400
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From:         "(Geoff Bronner)" <geoffb@COOS.DARTMOUTH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mac's Appleshare being disabled

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>    When the mac is turn on, then, appleshare will automatically load
>the login window for netware and will wait until a user enters it's
>name and password. Usually, the mac displays MACUSER in the login
>name entry and places the cursor on the password entry.

>Now, if the computer is turned off at this point (say it is time to
>close the lab) the appleshare option is disabled the next
>time the mac is turned on ans users cannot log into the system.

This is not a flaw with NetWare but due to the fragility of the Mac
operating system on startup. The login window that pops up on startup
interupts the startup process and turning off the Mac at that point can
corrupt the AppleShare resources or the entire system. Just flipping a Mac
off is a bad idea in general. They should always be shut down and then
turned off. Turning the mac off in the middle of startup risks corruption
of the system software and possible damage to any hard disks that are in
use.

-Geoff
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From:         pcm@SYS.CSD.LE.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Questions on NetWare NFS

>
>Hi folks,
>
>I need some clarification here from the users about what NetWare NFS
>software package can do and can not do.  My understanding is that
>NetWare NFS turns the NetWare server into a NFS server.  So that UNIX
>users can access NetWare server file system as an extention of their native NFS
>file system.

Yes Netware NFS allows the Netware Server to act as a full NFS server.  It
will also act as a print gateway via LPD protocols and as a FTP gateway to
the entire Netware LAN.

>
>Question 1:
>What about none UNIX environment that supports NFS such as VMS running
>MultiNet? Does NetWare NFS allow a user on a VMS machine running MultiNet to
>access the NetWare server files?  MultiNet is a software package that provides
>the NFS protocol for VMS systems to allow the integration with UNIX systems.
>

Any NFS system able to mount other NFS systems volumes should be able to
mount Netware NFS volumes.  If not their is a problem with their
implementation of NFS.

>Question 2:
>Very often a UNIX machine that is used as a NFS server is also a client at the
>same time.  Does NetWare NFS provide the capability to allow the Novell NetWare
>server to mount other NetWare servers' file systems or
>other NFS server file systems?
>

No!  This an example of the response to question 1.  Netware NFS must be
running on each Netware file server (expensive).  Netware NFS cannot mount
remote file systems either Netware or NFS - irratating Novell please Note!
(Yes I know the file permissions are different, but you could store a cache
of Netware permissions in an NFS file some where?)

>Having posted the above questions, let me give the readers some back ground
>information regarding why I'm asking these questions.  We are on the subject of
>network file integration.  Many of our PC users who are not on the Novell
>network use PC-NFS to access NFS file systems on the UNIX hosts and VMS hosts.
>Many Novell NetWare users here have the needs to access their files on the VMS
>and UNIX machines as well.  The true task here is can NetWare NFS handle this
>need.  I think the answer is NO. Then what N
>
>
>
>
>etWare product(s) can be used to achieve that?
>
>I hope someone from Novell is reading this.
>
>Sharon Yen <yen@bnl.gov or shyen@bnl.gov>
>Brookhaven National lab
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:27:00 GMT
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From:         Jim Loya <0004602295@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RE: NetWare and Kerberos

"..given the recently leaked security flaws..."

Is there a way you could post, or direct one to find, the information you
are referring to?
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From:         Rod Wilson <Rod.Wilson@BARCLAYS.CO.UK>
Subject:      This List

Has something changed regarding the workings of this list recently?

Whenever I send an email to the list, it seems to now pass it on to
compuserve, and I get a bounced mail message from the
postmaster@compuserve.com.

Is anybody else experiencing the same problem?

Any help appreciated.

Rod.Wilson@barclays.co.uk
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From:         "({Darkavich})" <steve@WINTERMUTE.UCSD.EDU>
Subject:      Install.NLM

yes, usually after entering the products option you
get a screen that lets you install/upgrade or edit other NLM's
you may have on your system.  (eg.  APPLETALK.NLM or NFS.NLM)

Your system is probably adending due to a lack of memory to run the
install program.  Real easy to do.  Check you memory % if you are
below 20% you need to add more memory.


	Steve Misrack
	steve@ucsd.edu
	UCSD Network Operations
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From:         John Beck <JBECK@BMGTMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PS/2 95 with more than 16MB RAM ??

I think it depends on what kind of adapter boards are in the machine.
I have a 95 with a 3c527 board and an NL/2 (novell local talk board)
and 32 MB of RAM on the mother board.  We have had no problems.  I
have heard that installations with IBM's Token Ring boards have
difficulty getting to memory beyond 16 MB. The reason seems to have
to do with memory addressing.

> I am rather confused, and I wonder if I might have missed some earlier parts
> of this thread.
>
> Can you successfully use more than 16Mb of RAM in a PS/2 95 Fileserver?
>
> Where does the "Set Reserved Buffers Below 16 Meg=" line come in?
> Is this how it's done?
>
> What is the syntax (or what does the 200 refer to)?
>
> Sorry if this has all been discussed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Angus
> ******                                                               ******
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> ****** How many different topologies and protocols can you juggle ?? ******
>
> >          Neat! neither can I (but that's okay.)  It is placed in the
> >          STARTUP.NCF file (here is a copy of mine).
>
> >load PS2SCSI slot=1
> >set Maximum Physical Receive Packet Size=4202
> >set Minimum Packet Receive Buffers=200
> >set Reserved Buffers Below 16 Meg=200
> >load a:mac
>
> >          I think it is one of those "oh yea, didn't you know about
> >          that one?" kind of parameter :->.  HTH! - Rick
>
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>
> >      :   I can't seem to find "set reserved buffers below . . ." in
> >      :   the red books anywhere.  Can you provide a reference??
> >      :   Thanks.
> >      :
> >      :   Jim Aagaard
> >      :   Northwestern University Library
> >      :   aagaard@nwu.edu
>           John Beck
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      College of Business
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Subject:      Re: Automatic reset code sending with novell?

Michael,

Set up the printcon.dat file in the normal way.  Usually this will be located
in the supervisor's or equivalent's mail directory.  Then copy that file to a
public directory i.e. z:\public.  Everyone has RF rights there.  Then use the
SMODE command to force NPRINT, CAPTURE, etc. to look in the z: directory for
PRINTCON.DAT.  Now you only have one DAT file that everyone uses and don't have
to create numerous mail directories.

BTW - Doesn't Novell create a mail directory every time you add a user?

: Michael Fanara
: Computer Support Specialist III
: Yale School of Management
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IP Tunneling - max # servers? WHY?

>
>In article <01GPIAPRIFJY91X7C5@CC.USU.EDU> Novell LAN Interest Group
><NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>>I have yet to hear of one decent reason to restrict the backbone to IP only
>>traffic.
>>        Joe D.
>
>What about "lack of multiprotocol routers" and "avoidance of interference
>from badly-configured LANs on the same WAN?"  Don't you ever get cases
>where some idiot starts spewing broadcast IPX packets all over the campus,
>and doesn't restricting them to IP tunnels help to avoid this?
>
>I would love not to have to use IP tunnelling. But I need a convincing
>response to the above arguments. Ciscos don't grow on trees...
------------
        I don't believe these comments for a minute. First, a campus of
any size can't stay unbridged or unrouted internally because one runs out
of allowable cable length. Second IP tunneling does not reduce the packet
rate, in fact it adds to the load with longer packets. Third, you have to
shop fairly hard to find single protocol routers, unless the campus is
foolishly dependent on workstations for routing (talk about weak single
points of failure). Lastly, that "avoidance of interference" is a slam-type
remark, to which the lan administrators respond with disparaging remarks
about excessive ARP and route request broadcasts. No, we don't get such cases,
and no, IP tunneling won't help the backbone. We have had plenty of ARP
nonsense, and have managed to tame most of the offending Unix boxes.
        Ciscos may not grow on trees, but they are available for a LOT less
that Sun workstations, and they do a terrific job (vs what Unix boxes do
to relay packets). US$4500 is the lowest cost cisco price I've heard, with
educational discount.
        The arguments you use will have to come from you, so I suggest start
with some simple deductions on the sluggishness of user response, the excessive
backbone loading, and the horrid management issue. Then try with and without
IP tunneling to verify this.
        Good luck,
        Joe D.
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