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From: shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4813,,21272)
Subject: Re: Bowling Cheats
Reply-To: shamim@.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:08:56 GMT

In article 92Aug13102824@tadsrc.uucp,  matthew@tadsrc.uucp (Matthew Sweet) writes:
>Posted for a colleague, Please reply to him.
>>Personally, I'd like to say thanks to Pakistan for coming & playing
>>some great cricket, helping make some fascinating matches, and
>>showing us *three* great bowlers - not to mention some outstanding
>>batting.  

Sensible stuff this. Mushtaq is negotiating a multiyear contract with 
Somerset; if it works out you may see the trio (the two sultans 
of swing and the magician's apprentice) on the county circuit. 
Aaqib may play for Yorkshire but his outburst at Old Trafford 
may cost him that chance. 

Let's forget about the acrimony & remember the overall
>>quality of the matches. Here's to the return in five year's time
>>- perhaps England will have some outstanding bowlers fit for then
>>& the series can be even closer & more exciting. 
>>
>>Steve B.
I think a lot of things hang in the balance for England and the India
tour is going to provide some answers.  Actually England has to find
those answers on the tour to India because Australia comes over next
year and there is no time to get a settled side.

What would Gooch have expected at the start of the Pakistan series?

Lewis establishing himself as an international all-rounder.  Hick
establishing himself as a batsman.  DeFreitas, Tufnell established as
an international bowlers.

None of this has happened. Gower hangs on precariously to a batting
spot, as does Atherton. The wicket keeping situation is messy: either
Alec should move down to #5/6, or he shouldn't keep wickets. Smith had
an indifferent series, never looking comfortable: even his 84 no at the
Oval had many blemishes and one lost count of the number of times the
ball beat his bat. The entire middle order needs to be established.
Lamb and Botham are gone.

The bowling is also problematic. Malcolm is wayward and unreliable.
Tufnell looked good in patches but 1/80+ isn't good enough. To be fair,
this was his first test after a lay off. Lewis doesn't produce good
spells often enough. DeFreitas is injured, Fraser isn't taking any
wickets in the counties.

I expect England (and Fletcher --the new manager--is a very sharp
character) to take chances with the ODIs.  I will not be surprised to
see Hick back in the side for the ODIs and/or for India. Ditto for
Salisbury.  RamP and Pringle will be dropped. This is the time for
England to re-build a middle order and a bowling quartet for the
Australian visit.

	--SAN
From: cdcs@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin D. C. Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: 'Sunday' League 1992 August 12 (Wednesday)
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:47:25 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

Sunday League 1992 August 12
40 overs per side

At Canterbury (Match Rearranged from July)
Kent v Nottinghamshire
Match Abandoned without a ball bowled


Table

                        Pld.   Pts.
1    Middlesex           14     52
2    Essex               14     40
3    Kent                14     34
4    Surrey              14     32
     Somerset            14     32
     Hampshire           14     32
     Worcestershire      14     32
     Warwickshire        15     32
9    Durham              14     30

10   Gloucestershire     15     28
11   Yorkshire           14     26
     Sussex              14     26
     Derbyshire          14     26
     Lancashire          14     26
15   Northamptonshire    14     24
16   Glamorgan           14     14
     Nottinghamshire     14     14
18   Leicestershire      14      8
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Is V-Ball this expensive everywhere?
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:50:54 GMT

To play indoor volleyball in the Ann Arbor rec league, I have to fork
out $40 for a 10 week season.  This is the A level, with 2 refs, one
one-hour match per week, plus one one-hour practise each week.  Lowere
levels cost just slightly less, while the "open" level costs slightly
more.  Is this out of line with what people are paying elsewhere?
Volleyball has gotten VERY popular here.  Maybe it's the law of supply
and demand...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.brazil
From: pires@vxcrna.cern.ch (Rui)
Subject: Re: Nasal vowels (was USA-Brazil (spoilers))
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: linguistics, phonetics, phonology, nasal, vowels
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:27:00 GMT

In article <16a4ipINNjl3@agate.berkeley.edu>, stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke) writes...
>In article <1992Aug11.164103.16115@mri.com>, bill@mri.com (Bill Weinberg) writes:
>|> If you insist on lingual involvement
>|> (as you did above) you can end up with all sorts of related but incorrect
>|> sounds, like /ng/. BTW - there are Portuguese words that start with /ng/
>|> like the dialect 'Ngo (Sehnor) [cf Jorge Amado].
> 
>You surely mean 'Nho, not 'Ngo.  The consonant is /nh/ (nasal-palatal), not
>/ng/ (nasal-velar).
> 

Let me reinforce the idea that 'Nho' is not a standard Portuguese word, 
but simply a regional (used only in Brazil, not in any other Portuguese
speaking country) abbreviation for 'Senhor' (mister).  In fact, there are 
no standard Portuguese words that start with /nh/. (And 'Nho' is the only 
dialect my dictionary reports. Thus, an exception. 8-)

Anyway, this is quite out of the subject of this newsgroup.


---Rui (from Lisboa, Portugal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball,soc.motss,comp.periphs.printers,comp.fonts
From: davis@cs.cornell.edu (Jim Davis)
Subject: seeking info on Imlac Composer
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:32:27 GMT

I post on behalf of a firm trying to defeat an attempt to patent
software horizontal scrolling!  I seek information on a late 70's
system called the Imlac Composer.   (Imlac, a company in Newton,
made a strange minicomputer whose archicture resembled the PDP-8
plus a vector graphics display.  The main product, the Composer,
was an early electronic typesetting machine which produced output
for phototypesetters.  This was before laser printers.)

Anyone with pointers to people, manuals, or working systems (hah!)
should call Ellen Law (collect) at 312-408-0855.  Or send email to me.

Jim Davis -- davis@cs.cornell.edu -- 607-255-1134
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Subject: Re: more height!!!!
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:53:13 GMT

I am very curious to find out Who upset Kiraly and Steffes? Also, did they win their 13th
tournament in a row?

A curious Fan
Serge Mon
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: haggerty_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Coaches' Top 20 Preseason Poll
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:28:01 GMT

 
> 6. Nebraska                27-5     904
> 19. Colorado               25-10    314
> First place votes are shown in parentheses.
> 
> -Take these numbers with a very large grain of salt.  The VB polls
>  always seem to fluctuate dramatically.
> 
> -I know I'm a snob, but I still think the tams like Florida, LSU, and
>  Ohio St. are overrated, even with their impressive records.  They are
>  good teams, but I still think Nebraska is the only now west of the 
>  rockies team to be able to compete with the top 5 or 10 teams in the 
>  country.
> 
> -julian

Some Big 8 notes from Boulder.
	Take the Colorado at 19 with a huge grain of salt. The CU team from
last year that went 25-10 no longer exists. Due to the coach of CU being a
total jerk at least 5 possibly 6 players have quit :( Included in this group
are All Big 8 selections Wendy Van Whye, Tiffany Jestedt, and possibly Katie
Zebransky. 
	For those of you who never have seen CU, they run a 5-1 swing
offense simmilar to an international offense. To run this you need a great left
handed setter, CU's setter lead the nation in assists last year, some great
outside hitters and a couple of big middle blockers. The three girls listed
above where three of the biggest women on the team, including the best middle
blockers!!!!
	This all means that Nebraska should remain as the class of the Big 8
and possibly the mid-west. On the idea that the best teams are all still west
of the rockies is questionable. Ohio-State advanced to the Final Four, did not
graduate much and then proceeded to have the best recruiting class in the
country. I hate Ohio-State but look out for them in the next couple of years.
	The idea of Western, Californian, dominance is fading. Ever since Texas
broke the west coast dominance a couple of years back, women's volleyball in
the rest of the country has spread like wild fire.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball,alt.binaries.pictures.misc
From: summers@ee.rochester.edu (C. Wayne Summers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: An Indoor/Outdoor Court System
Keywords: feasability, reality, existance
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:39:51 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Aug19.145632.1916@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mwsn_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Weasner) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.162854.13500@infonode.ingr.com> scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell) writes:
>>
>>  Does anybody know of a sand court that is setup indoors? I think it
>> would be a great idea to have both and indoor/outdoor court setup 
>> available. This way you could choose your play environment( minus the sun
>> and wind and outdoors, of course ).
>
>Indoor beach volleyball exists up here in Rochester at a place called Hot
>Shots. They have three courts set up in a converted warehouse. They trucked
>in much sand, at least 12 inches deep. Thats a lot of sand! It's a pretty 
>good idea. They put a bar in, sound system,  they have leagues almost every
>night of the week. Kinda expensive ($25 per hour), but it's great in the 
>winter, when you get tired of pounding your knees on the gym floor, you can
>jet over to Hot Shots and play indoor beach volleyball. They had Sinjin Smith
>come in over the past winter and run some clinics and stuff. I know I was in
>awe. 
>No substitute for outdoor ball though! In the summer, that is. :-)
>
>outta here...
>matt.
>

Yeah, Hot Shots was a pretty good idea for a place like Rochester where
the average outdoor season is almost 4 months - in a good year.  This
summer I think you could count the number of weekends when it was both
above 65 AND not raining on one hand :-(

Anyways, this past spring durring the afforementioned Sinjin Smith clinics
I heard two things about Hot Shots from JB Shares, the owner.  Apparently,
1) Hot Shots was the first place of its kind ANYWHERE offering indoor sand
volleyball courts year-round, and 2) JB is actively looking into franchising
his idea.  He said that he's working on opening a second Hot Shots in Colorado
somewhere (Boulder, I believe, but I'm not certain).  Anyone in Colorado hear
anything about such a place?

-- 

Wayne Summers
summers@ee.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:47:10 GMT

In article <BtAHzI.EMs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> MULLEN@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (Evil Twin) writes:
>> 2.  Players would NOT be penalized for stepping with one foot entirely
>>     over the center line as long as their action does not interfere 
>>     with the opponents play.
>Guess it's time to stop playing USVBA ball !-(  The other rules are fine, but
>it looks like for all those years the jungle ball players were doing it right.

In the interests of safety, how about lobbying for a wide center stripe,
say 4".  Both teams at lower levels could be prevented from touching the
stripe or the court beyond it.

At the higher levels where the offense has a huge advantage, allow
the defensive side to step on but not over the center stripe.  I don't
play at that level (or is it those altitudes?). Would that make a
significant leveling effect?

-- 
Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
But I make a profit of 3 1/4 cents an egg by selling them for 4 1/4
cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for 7 cents an egg.
Of course, *I* don't make the profit.          Joseph Heller, Catcha 22
From: julian@frey.lbl.gov (julian cortella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Coaches' Top 20 Preseason Poll
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: julian@frey.lbl.gov (julian cortella)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.81

In article <25477@dog.ee.lbl.gov> julian@frey.lbl.gov (julian cortella) writes:


> good teams, but I still think Nebraska is the only now west of the 
> rockies                                            ^^^
                        Um, that's supposed to be non-west of the rockies
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: In favor or rally scoring...
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:24:29 GMT

In article <GEOFF.92Aug12131600@wodehouse.flash.bellcore.com>, geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug10.205120.6602@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> kaena@haleiwa.austin.ibm.com (D. Kaena Freitas) writes:
|>    In article <geddis.713425438@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> Geddis@CS.Stanford.Edu writes:
|>
            < misc. serve procedure nuked for at&t space... >
     
|>    All I will say is this, if you play a game the _same_ way under 2 
|>    TOTALLY DIFFERENT types scoring systems, your team MUST be pretty shitty!
|> 
|> If you cannot answer the question, you swear at the questioner.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Now *there's* a convincing argument.

   Isn't that what Samuelson did in Game 1 against Japan at Barcelona?!? ;) 8()

       < more nuked for MORE space... >

|> 
|>    You don't realize, I GUESS, that if the score is tied at 16-16 with a 17 point
|>    cap, that a miss serve could end it all! Under siding out this is NOT the
|>    case. There is at LEASE one more service where you are on offense to get the
|>    ball back! Comprende? 
|> 
|> I see.  Because a miss[ed] serve could end it all, you serve in a fashion
|> that is virtually guaranteed to allow them to set up a perfect hit and win
|> the point.  Great strategy.  Somehow, the desireability of losing the game
|> on the play after the serve, rather than on the serve itself, evades me.
|> As Mr. Geddis has repeatedly explained, if you have a greater probability
|> with a jump serve of causing the other team to eventually commit a fault,
|> you jump serve -- if not, you don't, whether it is rally scoring or not.

    Yep. It also has the greater risk of difficulty, but the same applies to
    any type of hit that requires a greater skill and concentration to execute.

     BTW, you and Mr. Geddis should not take up boxing, as it would promote a 
     rise in the cost of bandages around the world. But if you two ever face
     each other from opposite sides of the net( up front ), that would be
     worth video taping! ;) ;)

| 
|> Cheers,
|> 
|> Geoff
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> geoff@bellcore.com

 Get Vertical!
 Scott
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg)
Subject: Rule changes
Summary: 2nd posting of proposed rule changes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:35:30 GMT


According to the United States Vollyball Association newsletter
which I recived in the mail on Tuesday, the following changes
will probably be accepted by FIVB after the Barcelona Games.

1.  In the 5th (or 3rd game in most regions), in case of a 14-14 tie,
    there will no longer be a point limit..The first four (or two)
    sets will still have the CAP or upper limit of 17 points.

2.  Players would NOT be penalized for stepping with one foot entirely
    over the center line as long as their action does not interfere 
    with the opponents play.

3.  To avoid interruptions of rallies, the ball may be touched with any
    part of the body above and including the knee.

4.  More freedom in ball hadling of the first hit is permitted.

5.  Player would have more freedom of contacting the net, as long as
    their action does not interfere with the opponent's play.

As I said this is verbatim from the Great Lakes Region Newsletter.


Carl Smedberg at AT&T in Beautiful Lisle Illinois
From: R3TLM@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: more height--cycling
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:03:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Akron


       one of the cheaper ways to find your vertical is to stand next
to a brick wall, preferably inside a building with a ceiling about 10',
then you place your hand at a spot on the wall and measure that height.
Have someone watch you as you jump to verify how high on the wall
you hand reach and measure that distance.  The reason you do it on
a brick wall is that it is easier to pick a spot and keep track of
how high that spot is.
       its a cheap way to find out your vertical, but its easy and there
aren't too many scientific procedures to follow. And besides, thats how
I got mine. My arm reaches to 7'2", on an average day I can touch a 9'10"
ceiling which gives me a rough estimate of a 32" vertical.
       hope it works for you.
 
                                         ---Spite
 
the sky only limits how high you can go and still breathe!
From: "pat traynor" <pat.traynor@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: sidesets
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:14:38 EST
Reply-To: "pat traynor" <pat.traynor@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Vball refs -- I need some clarification here...

In the USVBA rulebook, only under outdoor rules, it states that you can
sideset to a player on your side of the net.  (I'm talking about two-hands
over the head.)  You can set to the other side of the net, but only directly
in front of, or behind you, but not to the side.  They also say that you can
sideset to the other side if the ball floats across.  I have to assume that
this means that you intended to set your own teammate, but gave a bad set
which probably ended up being a good set for the opposition.

Is this an indoor rule also?  The situation that I'm concerned with is if the
pass comes to the setter, who is standing near the center of the net.  He
looks like he's going to set to one of his front corners.  He's facing toward
that corner.  When he DOES set, he sidesets it directly over the net.

Is this legal?  If not, is it spelled out in the rules anywhere?

--pat traynor--
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From: dat113c@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: <None>
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:03:17 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

sdflkjasdfdlkj

this is a test
From: HUMPHREY@themis.cs.umass.edu (Marty Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: WHAT ARE AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR COLLEGE PLAYERS?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:08:31 GMT
Reply-To: humphrey@themis.cs.umass.edu
Organization: Computer and Information Science, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA

Drummer writes:

>>   Full time student. You have 4 years to play in 5 years of school. If    
>> you have been enrolled in school forever, you don't have your 4 years
>> of eligibility anymore. I think that is how it works. I am not sure if
>> there is a GPA requirement. No age maximum either. A friend of mine is
>> 27 and plays for the URI volleyball team.

My guess is that the `URI volleyball team'' to which you refer is the Men's Club 
team. Collegiate Club players generally have few restrictions depending on the 
league they play in. At the most recent US Men's National Collegiate Club 
Championships, you just had to be a full-time student (grad or undergrad) to 
be eligible. In other words, you can play year after year, as long as you can 
keep coming up with the papers stating that you are a student. (By the way, 
no one cares about your grades....)

The real volleyball teams (non-Club) adhere to the NCAA rules governing
intercollegiate sports, I imagine. In particular, I think there <IS> an 
age limit (27?), but I can't seem to confirm this anywhere....

Marty.



Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell)
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:52:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.143530.14260@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg) writes:
|> 
|> According to the United States Vollyball Association newsletter
|> which I recived in the mail on Tuesday, the following changes
|> will probably be accepted by FIVB after the Barcelona Games.
|> 
|> 1.  In the 5th (or 3rd game in most regions), in case of a 14-14 tie,
|>     there will no longer be a point limit..The first four (or two)
|>     sets will still have the CAP or upper limit of 17 points.

      Sounds good. It will also allow the game to go on during the most
      crucial period in the series( the 'tiebreaker' ).
|> 
|> 2.  Players would NOT be penalized for stepping with one foot entirely
|>     over the center line as long as their action does not interfere 
|>     with the opponents play.

       Humph. Time to dust off those old ankle braces and re-fiberglass my
       court shoes! ;) Does this imply that your opponent also pay for your
       rehab training if any foot-related injury occurs? ;)
|> 
|> 3.  To avoid interruptions of rallies, the ball may be touched with any
|>     part of the body above and including the knee.

        Why-oh-Why? This has the potential of sloppy play/no knee-bending
        required for digs play written all over it!
|> 
|> 4.  More freedom in ball hadling of the first hit is permitted.

         Same as above. Yuck.
|> 
|> 5.  Player would have more freedom of contacting the net, as long as
|>     their action does not interfere with the opponent's play.

         Yuck x2. These shouldn't be rule addendums, they should be excuses
         for bad play.
|> 
|> As I said this is verbatim from the Great Lakes Region Newsletter.
|> 
|> 
|> Carl Smedberg at AT&T in Beautiful Lisle Illinois

  Ahh... The smell of jungle-ball in the air... ;)
  Get Vertical!
  Scott

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