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From: pwd@Apple.com (Patrick W. P. Dirks)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanners in Airports and on Planes
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:46:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.radio.scanner
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <C1Dsrv.4uE@world.std.com>, rcooper@world.std.com (ron w cooper)
wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any experience using a scanner in a major airport?  Do
> the security guys give you any trouble ?  Are there any rules (FAA etc)
> that prohibit you from using a scanner on planes ?
> 
> Ron Cooper

There's no law, to the best of my knowledge, that would keep you from using
your scanner on (or near) the airport ON THE GROUND.  Inside the plane,
definitely while airborne, various FAA regulations come into play.  The FAA
is concerned with flight safety far more than with passenger entertainment
and the rules specifically prohibit the operation of ANY ELECTRONIC DEVICE
not specially approved for use as an aviation instrument.  The rules were
made out of concern over electronic interference with the plane's
instruments, notably the navigation gear.  In practice, airlines will allow
you to use your portable computer (great electromagnetic noise generators)
on-board these days and there's been no reported case, as far as I know, of
a plane crashing due to EMI problems: the plane's electronics are actually
very nicely shielded.  Nevertheless, from a strict legal perspective,
you're not allowed to use a scanner on-board.

I own a scanner and I do enjoy listening along on airplane trips.  When I
board, I just poke my head into the cockpit and politely ask the captain
whether they would have any problem if I LISTENED [I find that's less
worrisome than "use", which immediately prompts the "does it transmit?"
question] to my scanner in-flight.  They usually ask what it is, what I
want to listen to, and 4 out of 5 times don't mind at all.  I usually tell
them where I'm sitting in case they should notice anything unusual. 
Sometimes I'll ask if they've been assigned a departure frequency yet, and
which airtraffic control centers they expect to traverse during the trip. 
I've had encountered crews who were really surprised such a small gadget (I
have a RS PRO-43) could listen in on everything and wanted to know where I
bought it and what it cost.  I've been offered quick tours of the flight
deck as a fellow aviation enthusiast, and I've had the captain offer to
clue me in on their current in-flight frequency any time I lost them during
the flight - just ask the flight attendant to call the flight deck any
time.

I think it's only reasonable to ask the captain's permission: after all,
they're responsible for the safety of the flight.  There's also no
substitute for being able to tell concerned flight attendants that "I
checked with the captain and it's OK".  Finally, as I mentioned above, I've
had some surprising side benefits from polite inquiries.

So ask, and have fun!
-Pat Dirks.
From: carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Any opinions on AR3000{A}?
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:01:55 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Ahoy!

  In deference to the new legislation which, for the first time in the 
United States, will make it illegal to import/manufacture receivers capable 
of receiving specific radio frequencies, I'm in the market for a wide-spectrum
receiver.

  On paper, AOR's 3000 and its derivative upgrade (the 3000A) seem to be along
the lines I am thinking.

  Does anyone have any experience with or opinions of this receiver?

  Email or posting, I thank you in advance for your comments!

-- 
Carter R. Bennett, Jr. - Scientist | "Oh my God!  I _AM_ a nerd!!!"
carter@scilab.lonestar.org - home  | - C. Bennett, Sept 25, 1992, after
carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org - work  | realizing he had been talking about
KI5SR          | "market availability of preconfigured Toll-House cookies."
From: scrooge@moneybin.equinox.gen.nz (Glenn Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: re: Freq's for Christchurch NZ?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:16:40 PST
Organization: Public Access Media Information Inc.

> re:Freq's in Christchurch
> 
> Have you tryed around 26Mhz to 27 Mhz some very good listening around these
> Freq's?????????????

No I haven't, thanks for the hint.
Glenn.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: genem@cup.hp.com (Gene Marshall)
Subject: Sale: Uniden 210XLT Scanner
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:24:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

For Sale: Uniden BC-210XLT Scanner

40 channels in 2 banks, 11 bands covering 29-54, 118-174, and 406-512 MHz
Keyboard entry, WX search, Priority, AutoSearch, AutoSquelch
120V or 12V operation, Original Box. Excel Condition.

$100.00
Gene
408/377-2638 (Home)
408/447-5282 (Work)
genem@HP.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: kenh@w8hd.org (Ken Hoehn)
Subject: Re: Scanners in Airports and on Planes
Organization: w8hd.org
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:27:20 GMT

kenw@col.hp.com (Ken Wyatt) writes:


>Actually, it's up to the captain as to whether operation of scanners
>or two-way radios (cell phones / ham radios) is allowed on -his/her-
>plane or not.  In practice, many airlines have a blanket policy
>which prohibits the use of this equipment on board.

It is *NOT* up to the captain, or anyone on board the aircraft to decide
to let a potential electronic device operator utilize a banned piece of
equipment.  Luckily enough, the rulemakers were smart enough to anticipate
the problem of an airline captain not being radio savvy enough to
recognize a potential problem.

IT IS UP TO THE ****CARRIER*****, that is, THE CERTIFICATE HOLDER, to make
the decision....i.e, Northwest, Delta, etc. officially.  And you can bet
your britches they will not bet their certificates on letting some geek
play with his radio on the aircraft.

I have never seen such an issue so continually resurrected....it is
illegal, and simply not safe to do.  Flying is often scary enough...why
make it more so?


-- 
------
kenh@w8hd.org

Ken Hoehn - Teletech, Inc.         Compuserve: 70007,2374
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: Can the ICOM W2A receive CB freqs?
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:16:58 GMT

In <TROCH.93Jan21223745@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU> troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch) writes:


>Can the ICOM W2A via a mod receive the CB freqs?  I know that via a mod
>it can receive the 800MHz cellular freqs.

No.

CB is at about 26-27 MHz, and the Icom does not go that low.  Poops 
out, as I recall, at above 108 MHz.

Most scanners do not go as low as that.  One of mine goes down to 30 
MHz but not lower.  (The historical boundary between HF and VHF is 
30 MHz, which may have influenced all this.)

What's more, CB is AM (and, for a few users, SSB).  Many scanners
pick up only FM.  The W2A does pick up AM (for the aircraft band)
but as mentioned above does not go all the way down to the CB band.

Since cordless phones are at 49 MHz, and the W2A does not go that
low, it also is no good for cordless phones.


-- 
Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: gregs@hotcity.COM (Greg Stramback)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON BEARCAT MR8100 SOFTWARE
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:21:47 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <93020.200636SJP117@psuvm.psu.edu>, SJP117@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Recently I received my software for the bearcat MR8100 reciever. In general,
>the quality of the software is adequate at best. It does provide a means
>of displaying the name of a frequency in the scanner screen. Although
>the software came to me from the factory with no instructions, I managed
>to figure out most of it.
>I wonder if anyone knows what the public/secure option of the software does
and
>if it performs any meaningful function. I'd appreciate either a posted or
E-mai
>l response. Thanks Steve  Penn State University in Erie

the public and secure option allows you set a flag in each memory channel that
regulates the modification of the frequencies.  secure keeps any frequencies
that you enter through the computer from being modified from the front panel of
the mr8100.  i use it for all my channels, since i have button pushing people
that ride with me in my vehicle quite often.

greg
From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanners in Airports and on Planes
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:55:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <1993Jan26.052720.5051@w8hd.org>, by kenh@w8hd.org (Ken Hoehn):

> It is *NOT* up to the captain, or anyone on board the aircraft to decide

> IT IS UP TO THE ****CARRIER*****, that is, THE CERTIFICATE HOLDER, to make
> the decision....i.e, Northwest, Delta, etc. officially.  And you can bet
> your britches they will not bet their certificates on letting some geek
> play with his radio on the aircraft.

Hmmm...  A fourteen year old friend asked me about this before
a trip, and I told him to ask the stewardess to ask the captain.
Well, he did neither, but used his HT to bring up a few zillion
repeaters over southern California.  After a few minutes of
amusement, he put his little HT away in his coat pocket.

Sometime later, the captain came out of the cabin, walked right
up to my friend, and said, "KC6***, hi, I'm N5***, pleased to
meet you!"  He apparently thought that it was great that my
friend (who was probably petrified) thought to bring his HT
along on the trip.
-- 
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992
From: pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Update: intermod, desense, overload
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:20:22 GMT
Reply-To: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation

A while back I posted a question about the possibility
of a local FM broadcast station causing desensitization
of a Pro-2006 scanner following the installation of a 
Diamond discone roof top antenna.    Several replies
confirmed my suspicions based on the evidence of reception
IMPROVING when a 10dB attenuator was placed in the 
antenna feed.    I have since installed the Grove Scanner
Filter which is a passive device that notches out 
several bands including <30Mhz, FM broadcast and TV
broadcast.    For those who requested I post the 
results of using the filter, I am pleased to report 
that the "desense" problem went away instantly.  I was
however, somewhat disappointed with the filter from Grove:

  1. the backside of the one-page instructions was
     so poorly photocopied, it was illegible
  2. the connector at one end of the filter had 
     become unsoldered and had to be fixed
  3. the instructions for adjusting the adjustable
     notch filter were not clear and the diagram
     did not match the circuit board layout

Grove have served me well twice in the past and I 
hope this is not a trend.

cheers,
Peter

Peter A. Stokes ___________________________________ Voice: (613) 545-2923
Engineering Applications Support                      Fax: (613) 548-8104
Canadian Microelectronics Corporation        Email: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Kingston, Ontario, Canada _______________________________________________
Organization: Senior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:12:29 -0500 
From: "Brian J. Papa" <bp12+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Frequencies wanted--Morton (Del. Co.), PA

Try:

39.82
39.90  Most of Eastern Delco Police
       95 - Swarthmore
       93 & 91 are Morton and Springfield, butr I can't remember which.
       99 - Nether Providence
       98 - Media
       77 - Upper PRovidence (Rose Tree)

500.612  Springfield Police
506.312  Ridley Twp. Police  (these two may be reversed also)

The Police and fire for Delco will be changing over to 500Mhz
eventually, but I don't think it will be really soon.

Btw, I am originally from Swarthmore and am a member of the Swarthmore
Fire Co.  I am now at Carnegie Mellon University (Senior Mechanical Eng)

Below are some fire freqs, from memory.  Hope this helps

-Brian


Fire Freqs:

46.48 - Dispatch
46.42 - F2 (not used much)
46.38  - f1 primary operations
46.16 - medical
46.40 - zone d (Zone for rutledge, morton, Swat. Neth Prov. Media, Springfield)
460.512 (I think) Eddystone fire primary
46.30 - low power
46.24 - Ridley Twp fire
46.26 - Eddystone low band.

Company #s (this is a random list, ask if you want to know something not
mentioned
7 Ridley Park
8 Prospect Park
1,5,9 - Glenolden and two other companies
11 Morton
12 Eddyston
13 Rutledge
14 Swarthmore
18 Folsom
23 Media
65 Garden City (Nether PRovidence)
51 South Media (")
50 Middletown
52 Brookhave
45 Parkside
44 Springfield
81-83 Chester City
54 Lenni Heights
69 Lima (by GRanite Run Mall)
59 Concordville
72 Aston
73 Rose Tree

1-4 engines
5  ladders
6 rescues
7 ambulances
8 mobils
9 chiefs
10 portables
11-14 (engineers, captains, lieutenants, but I don't remember which)
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Accessory List Export Restrictions
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:42:36 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A789580BBD029F25@mac27.util.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:40:43 GMT

You cannot export the stuff to North Vietnam, but I guess it is OK to
export it to South Vietnam.

At least you will stay legal if you export it to our friends, like Iraq. 
:-)
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:39:40 -0500 
From: "C. Mark DelSesto" <cd1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Pro-35/bc100xlt mods?

Are there any mods out there for the pro-35 or bc100xlt?  I checked
kilroy and garfield but didn't find anything.

Thanks in advance,
Mark
From: dwsst8+@pitt.edu (Donald W Savko)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: BC 200XLT modifications
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi everyone,
   
   I own a bc 200xlt handheld scanner and enjoy it very much.  I have a few
questions for those of you in the know regarding scanners that I am sure that
provide the answers that I so very much would like to have.

1.  I bought my scanner from Grove.  They included with it the procedure 
    for restoring the cellular freqs.  I have not yet done this, and would
    like to know if there is any reason why I SHOULD NOT do this.  The paper
    they sent said that I could still recieve the cellular phone calls by
    listening to them between 895-914 Mhz.  If this is so, WHY?

2.  I would also like to know what other modifications are available for my
    scaner that would make it *better*.  For example, ability to recieve
    27Mhz CB freqs, faster scan rate, increasing the number of memory
    channels > the current 200, etc, etc.  

3.  What antenna upgrade or other items could I find to increase its ability
    to recieve distant/weak signals.  I have heard that the Austin Condor
    is a good replacement antenna, but I know not where to find one.

4.  I have a very limited understanding of the 800Mhz band, its use by my
    police department (in addition to the regular vhf freqs), and exactly
    what is meant by a "trunked system".  Any information in this area would
    prove very educational.

5.  Do the scanner modification books that I see advertised in Grove's 
    catalogue cover the BC 200xlt, and if so, are these books worth buying?

	I have many other questions, but I'm sure these will do for now.
I would appreciate any and all help that the experts that read this group
could give me.  Postings to the net for information that is valuable to
the majority or readers would be nice, but I would also appreciate direct
email in answer to my questions, or at least the ones concerning mods
for my scanner.

email address:  dwsst8@unixd.cis.pitt.edu    OR
		jetst7@unixd.cis.pitt.edu   

I would appreciate responses to the first address especially.

Thanks in advance for all the help you can give me.


Jason
^^^^^
From: st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanners in Airports and on Planes
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:56 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
Keywords: scanner airport planes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <C1Dsrv.4uE@world.std.com>, rcooper@world.std.com (ron w cooper) writes...
>Does anyone have any experience using a scanner in a major airport?  Do
>the security guys give you any trouble ?  Are there any rules (FAA etc)
>that prohibit you from using a scanner on planes ?

I used mine in DFW airport before.  You could hear such things on the
air traffic frequencies as "skydiving in progress, stay clear of xxx",
etc.  I didn't attempt to use it on the plane, though.

No one ever gave me any trouble in the airport.

Regards,
B.J. Guillot ... Houston, Texas USA
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: POLICE CALL 1993
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:48:24 GMT


>>Subject: POLICE CALL 1993
>>...IS HERE!!

Now, the question:  Which is better, Police Call '93, or 
Monitor America 2nd Ed?

Does Police Call have a comprehensive list of frequency allocation
(ie, commercial, and not just police/fire/air/etc)?

Mike
-- 
mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:20:38 EST
From: <SJP117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Vermont freqs

here are some VT. freqs until you can E-mail me some more specific questions
about specific agencies and or towns.

vermont state policecounties
----------------------------
460.225 chittenden franklin grandisle lamoille
460.150 calendonia essex orleans orange
460.375 addison bennington rutland
460.425 windham windsor orange washington
460.475 windham windsor orange
458.950 detectives
460.500 car to car
460.025 statewide common
460.275 police paging
460.325 VT. Dept of Corrections
155.340 - 155.280 VT. Ambulance Comms.  159.195-159.180 Vt. Highway Dept.
From: Michael Keefe
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Can police display terminals be used?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:11:41 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

Lately, I am hearing police officers refer to their visual display units in their vehicles.  I was wondering if there is some type of hardware on the market which could display on a computer terminal what an officer "sees" in his/her patrol car.  If anyone knows of any vendors/kits which permit one to legally see this output, please respond to this news group.

Michael T. Keefe                                         University of Manitoba
== I speak only for myself ====               Come to Winnipeg, See winter live for 10 months each year
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rvt@sbctri.sbc.com (Roger V. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Software for ICOM-7100
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:14:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.170518.5476@crl.dec.com> payne@crl.dec.com (Andrew Payne) writes:
>In article <C0uv6H.JLE@ccu.umanitoba.ca> M. Keefe	 writes:

>(deleted text)

>The documentation doesn't mention any way to read the squelch state or signal
>level over the serial port, which is disappointing.  The documentation is
A while ago, I talked with a vendor of software for the 7000/7100,
Deltacomm, and found that the squelch and signal level software
interface requires modifications to the receiver.  The squelch info
is available from the signal indication light on the panel, but
the signal level requires, in their design, use of an A/D.  I 
think they use the meter voltage, but I don't remember for sure.

Deltacomm's literature for the 7100, however, mentions a software
squelch detection option (default) that is sent over the CI-V    
channel.  The hardware squelch option is said to be twice as fast.

The Deltacomm software for the 7100 is $357, so I didn't purchase
it.  I believe other shareware alternatives exist, but don't have
any information.

-- 
Roger V. Thompson, P.E.                         |ARS AD5T
Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, Inc.    |314-529-7847 (Office)
550 Maryville Centre Dr.                        |314-529-7674 (Fax)
St. Louis, MO  63141                            |rvt@calvin.sbc.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: Glen W. Arceneaux <ddjgwa@arco.com>
Subject: 800 MHZ Mod for PRO-43?
X-Xxdate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:08:58 GMT
Organization: ARCO Exploration & Production Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:06:19 GMT

Is there a mod to the Radio Shack PRO-43 to receive the full 800Mhz
segement?




Thanks in advance.

Glen Arceneaux  (ddjgwa@arco.com)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: rfweber@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert F. Weber)
Subject: Mods for BC855XLT
Summary: Request for mod info
Keywords: BC855XLT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:34:23 GMT

I try to read this group once a week but have never seen an response to
several requests for modification information for the BC855XLT to increase
the number of channels (50 to 100?) and to scan the cellular freqs.  Did
I miss it or hasn't anyone responded?????
From: edwardsb@endor.byu.edu (Blake Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: 10 codes and freq.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:38:14 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Reply-To: edwardsb@ucs.byu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: endor.byu.edu

I was wondering if anyone knows what the 10 codes and frequencies used in  
Utah are.  Any information would be appreciated

Thanks
Blake Edwards
Edwardsb@ucs.byu.edu
From: kbarger@cellar.org (Kyle Barger)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: POLICE CALL 1993
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:41:31 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws) writes:

> No, I am not going to type in all the new 500 Mhz freqs!

Aww, shucks!!!  :-)

Seriously, thanks for the info.  I didn't realize they were on the Del.Co.
system.  (OK, I didn't realize there WAS a Del.Co. system!)

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kbarger@cellar.org      --Brendan Kehoe, _Zen and the Art of the Internet_
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From: b_cobb@hannah.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Signal Strength meter add-on ... possible?
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: b_cobb@hannah.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



I have added S-meters to all my scanners, PRO-2004, PRO-2006, Bearcat 800XLT,
ect.  It is not very difficult.  I just scoffed some S-meters from old CB's
and build this little circuit that connects to a point in the recievers front 
end and it works like a charm.  You have to hand callibrate this, however.
This is also not too difficult.  Also there is are plans for one of these
in the Scanner Modification Handbook Volume #2 from CRB research.  This
is essentially the same circuit I use.


--
Name:    Bill Cobb
E-Mail:  cobb@hannah.enet.dec.com
Phone:   508.635.8458
Address: MS DSG1-2/E6
         Digital Equipment Corporation
         4 Technology Park Drive
         Westford, MA  01886

  
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: YKERANEN@FINABO.ABO.FI (Yrj| Ker{nen Fysi)
Subject: kenwood tm431e
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:13:28 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Who could tell me how to modify my Kenwood tm431e to go further down (and
possibly up) the band. I think it should be possible to make it RECEIVE the
frequency range 400-500MHz continuously, but how? If you know how to do it, or
where to get information from, please mail to me a note to above E-mailaddress
direct. Thanks.

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