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Where's the FAQ? I looked in news.answers and it's not there...


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923)
Subject: FrameMaker "Ninja" Seeks Contract Work
Organization: NetCom -- OnLine Communication Services
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:11:51 GMT

   o	3 years hard-core experience using and administering
	FrameMaker (versions 3.x for X and OpenLook) on Sun
	workstations.

   o	4 years of abuse as a Sun Systems Administrator.

Seeking contract work, *only* in these areas, 'tho I might deign to consider
a techical writing contract if the subject *did not* have *anything* to do
with the financial world, squeezing yet another million transistors onto a
square of silicon, or cute programs for PCs/Macs.

You be the judge.

Jonathan B. Horen
Sun System Administrator/FrameMaker Administrator/
Technical Writer Seeks Challenging and Rewarding
Contract Position
tel: (408) 736-3923 | email: horen@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Re: "inconsistent" messages drive me buggy
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:36:20 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.170037.1830@informix.com>, robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
|> Actually, these "conditional tags inconsist" messages are problematic for another  
|> reason on the NeXT: the dialog box that pops up with the warning does not move to  
|> the top layer of the windowing system.
|> 

But what do these messages MEAN?  Are the messages supposed
to appear or is their appearance a bug?




Barbara Zayas				Software Engineering Institute
Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
bjz@sei.cmu.edu				(412) 268-6378
From: hlj@posix.COM (Hal Jespersen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: How to split large FM files?
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:00:18 GMT
Organization: POSIX Software Group, Redwood City, CA

I have inherited a Frame 3.0 document that has a single chapter of over
300 pages, stored in one 1.6MB file.  Does anyone have suggestions about
how I can break up this single file into manageable pieces?  Thanks,

					Hal Jespersen
					POSIX Software Group
					447 Lakeview Way
					Redwood City, CA 94062
					+1 (415) 364-3410
					+1 (415) 364-4498 FAX
					hlj@posix.com
From: jansteen@cwi.nl (Jan van der Steen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: User/Frame variables
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:54:08 GMT

Is it possible to use Frame buildin variables (like <$monthnum> for
example) in the definition of user defined variables.

My trials didn't work so far:

	"The month = <$monthnum>"

gets expanded in the document to:

	"The month = <$monthnum>>"

(We run FrameMaker 3.0X on SUN and 3.1X on SGI workstations.)

Jan van der Steen

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: lyden@convex.com (Barry Lyden)
Subject: Re: Licensing FM
Keywords: Licensing
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:39:57 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov17.190856.18565@sei.cmu.edu> ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:

>Almost.  You don't need a license to start FrameMaker, nor do you need one to
>open or print a document.  You only need a license to edit or save documents. 

Actually, I believe you do need a license to open or print a document as well.
From: rqf@concurrent.co.uk (Roger Firth)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Printing to LaserWriter IIg
Keywords: PostScript, grayscale
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:16:02 GMT
Reply-To: rqf@concurrent.co.uk
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp

The Apple LaserWriter IIg has a "PhotoGrade" feature which
prints very fine gray levels; on a Mac this feature has to
be activated by selecting "Colour/grayscale" rather than
"Black and White" in the print dialogue box. If it's not 
activated, only the usual coarse gray levels are printed.

I'm using FrameMaker 3.1 on a SPARC; does anyone know how 
(perhaps by modifying .fminit2.0/postscript_prolog) I can get
Frame to produce fine gray tones using PhotoGrade?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Concurrent Computer Corporation        Fax:   +44-753-513303
227 Bath Road, Slough SL1 4AX, UK      Email: rqf@ccur.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kevin@simd.stanford.edu (Kevin W. Rudd)
Subject: Problem with MIF format?  Possibly related to conditional text?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:24:27 GMT


I've been having less than satisfactory success with FrameMaker 3.1X on
a Sun IPC running SunOS 4.1.2 (Solaris 1.0.1) and Openwindows 3.0.  When
I save a file as MIF and read it back in again I seem to lose all sense
of line relations---they just jumble together.  I haven't had a chance
to try and do it without conditional text but...

I am using an outline format with a conditional text table after each
heading which is used to simulate the document box in Symantic's More(tm)
for the Macintosh (a side note---any chance of getting true outlining?
i.e. Up Paragraph and Down Paragraph in addition to Next Paragraph tags
in paragraph boxes?)

Just curious if anyone else had had problems with conditional text and/or
MIF format.

Thanks,
 -- Kevin

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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: "inconsistent" messages drive me buggy
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:51:21 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov20.203620.13802@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)  
writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov20.170037.1830@informix.com>, robertw@informix.com (Robert  
Weinberg) writes:
> |> Actually, these "conditional tags inconsist" messages are problematic for  
another  
> |> reason on the NeXT: the dialog box that pops up with the warning does not move  
to  
> |> the top layer of the windowing system.
> |> 
> 
> But what do these messages MEAN?  Are the messages supposed
> to appear or is their appearance a bug?

When you generate a book, pagination, lists of markers, TOCs, and so on will be  
effected by what conditional text is showing in the chapters. It is likely that a  
publisher will set up conditional tags intending that all tags of the same name  
will be showing in all chapters of the book for generating a particular version.  
Therefore, FrameMaker wants to warn you if some chapters have different conditional  
tag settings than other chapters.

This makes sense, but not if you get the conditional tag warning even if you have  
no hidden text anywhere. It would certainly be helpful if you could just tell  
FrameMaker not to give you any warnings.
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From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: "inconsistent" messages drive me buggy
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:08:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

We are using conditional text to write a manual that applies
to two versions of a software product, and when we generate
the book these messages about "Inconsistent..." this or that
are really spoiling my sleep.  Fortunately you can shut the
critters off and there are no visible bad effects, but darn it
I want to *fix* their causes and I can't *find* them!

Take this one little one-page component of the book.  It contains
just two tags, named `5.0' and `6.0' respectively.  I have
saved the file as MIF to verify that

	* tag 5.0 has no format overrides
	* tag 6.0 has color As-is and style StrikeThrough

I set the Show/Hide settings to "Show all."
I select the option "Use Format Overrides."

Everything looks fine; there are exactly four uses of conditional
text, two of each tag, they don't overlap (I checked in the MIF
to make sure), and they display fine.

I generate the book, I get an alert

	Format override is inconsistent for tag `6.0' in <document>

So I set the Show/Hide settings to turn off "Use Format Overrides"
and generate again; now I get the alert

	Format override setting for <document> is inconsistent.

Inconsistent with bloody WHAT!!!! I scream at the terminal,
and subside, panting...must remember not to get so *involved*
with this thing...

I cannot for the life of me figure out what we have done to deserve
these messages.  I have even tried making all `6.0' text unconditional,
so only the tag existed, no text (yes, I checked the master pages!)
and STILL the damned messages came out.  The only way I can make the
message stop is to delete the condition tag entirely!  Help my sanity,
tell me what I've overlooked?

Dave Cortesi
   cortesi@informix.com
From: rob@cs.man.ac.uk (Robert Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Printing imported graphics in a multi-file book
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:19:49 GMT
Reply-To: Robert Marshall <rajm@cs.man.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

When I print a book containing PostScript files imported by reference,
I get lots of `Cannot open imported graphic file .' messages. However
                                               ( ^ is this punctuation
or is it really trying to open this file?)
when I print the individual chapters I experience no problems. Am I
doing something stupid or is this a bug?

Also is there any way of printing the book in a reduced format (the
thumbnails option doesn't appear on the book Print Document box)?

Robert
(This is 3.1A with OL)


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From: keast@qucis.queensu.ca (Liam John Keast)
Subject: special symbols
Keywords: natural numbers, integers, arrows
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:33:16 GMT



I am currently writing a paper using Framemaker.  This is my first time using
Framemaker so my problem may be easily solved.

I need to use the symbol for the set of integers (a Z with hollow middle line),
the set of natural numbers (an N with hollow middle line), the power set
symbol (a P with a hollow line at left side), a triangle on its side (the
delta symbol rotated will do), a triangle with the line from the top to the
base, and all sorts of arrows that don't seem to be available in the symbols.
These include an arrow with a vertical line through the middle, and an arrow
with a vertical line at one end and direction indicated at the other end.

I think that I should be able to figure out how to rotate the triangle symbol
in the middle of some text.  The other symbols do not look like they are
available.  Also, if there is a way to make the text hollow rather than bold
face, then the problem for the natural number, integers, and power sets could
easily be solved.

My e-mail address is keast@qucis.queensu.ca and I would very much appreciate
any help.  Thanks.

Liam Keast

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: "inconsistent" messages drive me buggy
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:45:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.230857.8079@informix.com> cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi) writes:
]...[

>I generate the book, I get an alert
>
>	Format override is inconsistent for tag `6.0' in <document>
>
>So I set the Show/Hide settings to turn off "Use Format Overrides"
>and generate again; now I get the alert
>
>	Format override setting for <document> is inconsistent.
>
>Inconsistent with bloody WHAT!!!! I scream at the terminal,
>and subside, panting...must remember not to get so *involved*
>with this thing...

Dave, Dave, Dave....sit back and relax.

What FM is telling you is that the tags are inconsistent among chapters.

Threw me for a while, too.

Do it this way.  Select the chapter that contains the conditional tags
as you want them to print, then do a `Formats from' against your book
file...selecting only conditional text, of course.

>I cannot for the life of me figure out what we have done to deserve
>these messages.  I have even tried making all `6.0' text unconditional,
>so only the tag existed, no text (yes, I checked the master pages!)
>and STILL the damned messages came out.  The only way I can make the
>message stop is to delete the condition tag entirely!  Help my sanity,
>tell me what I've overlooked?

Hope this helps.

steve
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: keitru1@netcom.com (Keith Trussell)
Subject: Need to print to edge of page in Mac Frame
Summary: problem printing "bleed tabs"
Organization: Health Net
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:46:33 GMT

Does anyone know a way to print to the very edge of the page in Mac Frame? 

The capability to print objects off the edge of the page as in "bleed tabs"
is mentioned in the new features manual included with the latest release, but
I spoke to a rep on the support line who told me it's a limitation of the Mac 
printer driver at the OS level to leave about a quarter inch masked edge around
the page. She knew of no way around this limitation other than to somehow change
out the Apple printer driver.

I found that I could manually edit the PostScript file to extend the trimmed
region beyond the page edge, so the masked data is there; but I would like to be
able to do this from within Frame.

Any hope?




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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: Is there a "mail merge" function in Framemaker 3 ?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 03:28:12 GMT

It's Christmas time again ... and I want to generate a bunch of
form letters with certain fields coming from a file.

Has anyone figured out a clean way to do this?
Or is it even possible at all?
-- 
Michael MY Hui  ~{~}  myhui@bnr.ca  Ottawa Canada
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Licensing FM
Keywords: Licensing
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:24:22 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1992Nov18.033803.17768@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:
 So what is the smallest value to which this can be set?  Our default
|> around here is 999, which I'm working on changing.  But we had to pull a
|> guy out of a meeting last week just to give up his license.  
|> 

I don't no the smallest value, we work with 5 minutes.

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mark@drd.com (Resident.Alien)
Subject: Re: Licensing FM
Keywords: Licensing
Organization: DRD Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:30:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.190856.18565@sei.cmu.edu> ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:
>
>The way the license server works, you buy a certain number of licenses, then
>in the license file, you can list those who are allowed to use them or those
>who are NOT allowed to use them.  You can also specify that certain licenses
>are reserved for certain people.  Or, you can list no one.  That way, anyone
>who can get to the license server can use FrameMaker.
[...]
>It's a very good flexible system, and it works well (as long as y0ou buy
>enough licenses.)

Given that floating licenses cost 2.5 to 3 times the node-locked
versions, it behooves one to closely analysis usage patterns.  If an
individual uses FrameMaker for a majority of their tasks, and so would
keep a license token monopolized for a majority of the time, it makes
sense to buy that individual a node-locked version and keep the pricey
floating versions available for general use.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: cwarsaw@cen.com (Craig E Warsaw)
Subject: FrameMaker hyphenation
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:02:05 GMT

I am posting this for a friend.  Please respond to him directly.
Thanks.

=========================================================================

Does anyone know how to force FrameMaker to re-scan the ~/fmdictionary
file after it has been manually edited? 

I am constantly adding things such as function names which I don't want 
FM to hyphenate; it's easiest for me to type a number of these words 
directly into my ~/fmdictionary.  However, changes are only recognized 
when I completely exit FM (not just exit from the document) and restart.
I've tried selecting "Rehyphenate Document" and this doesn't work when
I manually edit ~/fmdictionary.

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Century Computing, Inc.              TAE Plus project
Laurel, MD 20707                     under contract to:
(301) 953-3330                       NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: .auto files
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:58:39 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.202806.22067@csc.ti.com> moiram@sacajawea.csc.ti.com (Moira  
Mallison) writes:
> 
> I didn't really want to revert to the last saved version of my
> document; I wanted to revert to the last auto-saved version of my document.
> So I've lost a couple hours work I did last night.  
> 
> But... system backups run nightly, and I have auto-save set to every 5
> minutes in my preferences file.  I can't find a .auto file in the
> backups though.
> 
> I edited a file as a test about 30 minutes ago, and there is no .auto
> file in the cwd, or in /tmp.  Is it someplace else.
> 
> Or are last night's edits really gone for good?
> 
> Thanks,

Your .auto file is deleted every time you "save". A new .auto is not created, in  
your case, until 5 minutes have elapsed since a "save". So if you saved your file  
and went home, the .auto was deleted and did not get onto the system backup. If you  
kept FrameMaker running and did not save after doing edits, though, it's strange  
that the .auto did not persist and show up on the backups. The .auto file should  
appear in the same directory as the working file (anyone know of a way to change  
the directory into which a .auto is saved?)

Personally, I never use auto-save. I just save with a keyboard command whenever I  
am not otherwise keyboarding for a few seconds - that way I don't get interrupted  
by an auto-save in the midst of working. This also permits me to "revert" if  
necessary.
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|   Email : robertw@informix.com |        Graphic designer        |
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From: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: default permissions
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:52:16 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


Does anybody know how to change the default permissions
(group and others: read) for frame-X.3.1 "save as".
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: moiram@sacajawea.csc.ti.com (Moira Mallison)
Subject: Re: .auto files
Keywords: backup, recovery
Reply-To: moiram@csc.ti.com
Organization: Computer Science Lab, Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:22:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.140940.14655@sei.cmu.edu>, ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:

>> If you edit a document, don't save changes, leave it open, and still see no
>> .auto files, then there is something wrong.  The .auto file will be in the
>> same directory as the document being edited.
>>

This is exactly what I did.  In fact, no .auto files are being created
in the current directory, in spite of the fact that autosave and
autobackup are set in the preferences dialog box.  I called technical
support; they are looking into it.  Meanwhile, I've re-created the
document :-(.

Moira Mallison	
Computer Science Laboratory
Texas Instruments

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: imported graphics disappear
Keywords: display, print,windows
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:51:15 GMT

In article <Bxrn73.Bqt@world.std.com>, halberst@world.std.com (jerry halberstadt) writes:
|> Just like the Chesire Cat, my graphics appear and disappear. A specific
|> image sometimes displays, sometimes fails to display silently, sometimes
|> Frame says "Can't import/display/print some imported graphics." Sometimes
|> the images print, sometimes not. Images that don't display, don't print,
|> but an image that displays does not always print. 
|> 
I just encountered similar problem last night, when I started adding
bigger/more complicated graphics into my document.  And my graphics
that refused to print were just cut-and-pasted charts generated from
Excel.  They were not explicitly imported by reference.
 
Same thing...closing the doc and opening it again re-display the
graphics on screen but still does not print.  Restarting Frame solves
the problem. Seems like some form of lost synchronization between
Frame and the print driver which does not re-synchronize itself. 
Definitely not lack of memory of any sort.
 
My setup is, Windows 3.1, Frame 3.0, 8Mb RAM, ~80Mb free disk space,
and a Canon BJ10ex printer.

|> Particularly weird is to bring up a graphic and then a few moments later it
|> is replaced by a grey hole. Or to have it reappear. Like the Chesire cat.
|> Such behavior suggests that it is not the amount of memory being used, or
|> available, either RAM or HD. 
|> 
When does the gray hole occur, i.e. is there a specific event that
causes the grey hole.  In my (only 1) experience, it occurs when I
tried to print the document.  The "can't print imported graphics" pops
up and there after lo-behold my graphics is greyed.
 
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