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From: esm@Auspex.COM (Ed Santiago)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Gilroy Garlic Festival
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:59:38 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

I thought ClariNet was in Ontario?

>What does one do at the festival?  Where does one go?  Where is the best
>food?
Anywho.  This weekend will be my fourth time at the Garlic Festival.  My
primary attraction to it is the food:

	* deep-fried artichoke hearts.  Many places have these, they're
	  all exquisite.  

	* stewed calamari in a rich tomato sauce.  You'll recognize the
	  place that sells these.  It's right next to the marinated
	  mushroom, scampi, and garlic bread places.  

	* garlic ice cream.  Try it!  It's refreshing and leaves a nice
	  tingle on the palate without being overwhelming.  Last year
	  there was someone giving out soft-serve garlic ice cream, but
	  that's not the real one!  Make sure you get the regular kind,
	  maybe $1.50 a bowl, at a boot whose (Italian-sounding) name
	  escapes me at the moment.

	* garlic sushi.  A great change from your run-of-the-mill variety.

	* garlic chocolate.  It's just a chocolate/peanut butter cup
	  with some trace garlic, and isn't too outstanding [especially
	  in the sweltering midday heat] but it's something you just
	  gotta try, if only to say you've done so.

	* I hear the marinated steak sandwiches are pretty good, but
	  the BBQ ribs are awful.

	* I'm sure there's more that I am forgetting.  Try it all!
	  It's only once a year.

The crafts booths are great.  Bring some spare change, there's always
something you just can't live without.  Also, try to visit the kids'
area.  You can get your face painted for cheap, and last year they
had an overflow crafts person there who did some really interesting
work on tree stumps.  

I must emphasize the importance of getting there early.  I think the
gates open at 10:00, but I like to be there at 8:30 or 9:00.  There'll
probably be a band playing and some booths open outside the fairgrounds
to provide entertainment for the earlybirds.  

It will be crowded.  It will be really crowded.  I get peopled-out by 1:00.

Also, try to remember to wear a hat.  The sun can be pretty deadly.

Enjoy,
^E
-- 
Ed Santiago, Software Type				esm@Auspex.com
Auspex Systems, Inc.    Santa Clara, CA, USA
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew)
Subject: Re: Excellent Vietnamese in Oakland
Keywords: Vietnamese Oakland
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:14:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.232807.17953@rgbsys>, rick@rgbsys (Rick Davis) writes:
|> 
|> On 14th and Jackson in downtown Oakland there is an excellent
|> Vietnamese restaraunt called 'Le Cheval'.  (No, they do not serve horse).
|> They have a fine lunch special, and a several citrus-based meat dishes
|> that we often enjoy.  They also serve a mean Vietnamese iced coffee.  

I will second this recommendation.  There is also another Le Chevel
in the Kaiser Building by lake merritt.  This is not your typical
Vietnamese restaurant.  It is French-Vietnamese and have interesting
and tasty dishes.  Price is reasonable but not cheap.  The service 
is attentive.  Worth a vist.
--
Stephen Chew (chew@csd.sgi.com)  I don't mean to dis, but let's disperse.
SGI Product Support              I'll see you later, unless you see me first.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jerry@watchman.sfc.sony.com (Jerry Scharf)
Subject: San Jose Ethiopian Restaurants
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:52:40 GMT


I remember a few months ago there was a posting for a good Ethiopian place in
San Jose. Could somesone send me a name and location of the place.

Thanks
 
-- 
Jerry Scharf	Systems and Network Administrator
Advanced Video Technology Center  Sony America, San Jose, CA
email: jerry@sfc.sony.com	Phone (408) 944-4989
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Buffalo Wings
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:12:27 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul29.204258.25992@wdl.loral.com> wrl@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Bill Lewandowski) writes:
|
|Hooters are up and down the east coast and a few otheR
|areas of the country
|
| I was at one last month in Orlando (4 Hooters there)

Is anyone else having trouble reading this thread with a straight face?

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: GC.TLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sick Little Monkey)
Subject: Re: Superb Los Gatos Restaurant
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:55:21 GMT

In article <l6uiohINN8f9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>,
cedars@mtliban.Corp.Sun.COM (Cedars of Lebanon) writes:
>
>
>
>   If you are looking to spend a pleasant time eating out, I strongly
>   recommend Cafe Marcella.   It got high reviews in the Metro, Los
>   Gatos Times and the San Jose Mercury News
>
>   Here is what Christina Waters had to day about this elegant restaurant:
>
>
>   The price is expectional for the service you get.
>
>
>   Reservation is strongly recommended, especially on weekends.
>
>   Following is the Restaurants' full menu:
>
>                                WINES
>                                -----
>
>A variety of WORLD'S FINEST...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OH, come now... self-serving, self-promotion is one thing, but this

last statement is just a little over the top.

Terrance

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From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Hire's Root (Beer) Extract?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:20:49 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Inc.
In-reply-to: leej@sgi.com's message of 30 Jul 92 18:54:35 GMT


>How sad.  We drank it back east 10 years ago mostly because we could
>refer to it (geeky nerds that we were) as "high-res" root beer.

That's quite amusing.   For the longest time, when I read the Apple
programming manuals, I couldn't figure out why they'd named one of
their graphics modes after a brand of root beer.   (Really, I'm dead
serious! :')

			       _MelloN_
--
mellon@ncd.com
Member, League for Programming Freedom | To learn how software patents could
cost you your right to program, contact the LPF - league@prep.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: telco@netcom.com (Telco Systems)
Subject: Re: Fremont lunch places?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:12:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

There is Fortune chinese on Warm Springs.  I'd give it *
There is Ho Chow chinese about a mile further south on warm springs. ** 
In the same center as Ho Chow is an Indian, I forget the name **1/2,
and a Mexican *

I work across 880 from NUMI.  I have to take the car to go anyplace
but Mickey D's or da lunch wagen.  I like Chevy's near the Newpark Mall.
Spoon's way up on Mowry.  There are many rests up off Mowry.  It all
depends how far you want to go and how much time you have.

Still, not too many _real_ good places.  Try to get a job in Mountain
View.  Now there are some good resturants.

-mark
mark%homer@key.amdahl.com
 
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Polish restaurants?
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:08:49 GMT

In article <70455@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>
>Eugene's, on San Antonio near Foothill in Los Altos. Very good Polish food,
>and order a bottle of Bull's Blood to go with it. (try the combo plate
>first. The Goulash and pierogies are wonderful).
>

I have only one reservation about Eugene's:  If you eat a good, solid, meal,
with dessert and wine, you're hungry again 72 hours afterward.  Otherwise, yum.

phil
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|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
|work: phil@gsi; sgi!gsi!phil            | Phil Gustafson                   |
| "Don't believe in ads.  Don't believe in government.  Watch yourself --   |
|  everybody is trying to screw you!"  Bill Gaines, 1922-1992               |
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.cooking
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: It's time to sign up for SHARE
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:51:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Jul27.174951.29525@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>Skinless pork sausage
 
Boy, if you think the boneless chicken ranch was a pitiful sight,
you should see the skinless pig farm. Disgusting.
 
Greg
From: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM (Keyvan Behnia)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: 'ware Flying Saucer
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:15:50 GMT
Reply-To: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific Bel

In article 24291@leland.Stanford.EDU, stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski) writes:
>
>
>The whole thing was very odd. We were prepared for a little
>eccentricity in the service and decor, and for considerable
>originality in the food. I can't say that we were abused, as happened,
>for example, at Caffe Sport (where we realized, too late, that the
>rudeness and abuse are an affection, a sort of unspoken contract
>between the well-rehearsed waiters and the East Bay frat boys that are
>the chief clientele).  What we got at the Flying Saucer was plain old
>fashioned indifference and an attitude that lavishes more attention on
>the food than on the customers.  What a shame!
>
>
>Stefan Michalowski
>stefan@sunrise.stanford.edu


after reading this I chuckled thinking about when Patty Unterman reviewed flying saucer.
in the middle of her first secret dinner the little space cadet chef (walking, talking
cliche of over the top frenchness) walked up to her table and asked her by name to leave.
the reason for this was that a bad review years ago in some other town had ruined the
life of his friend and he did not care to be reviewed by her.

in the end she gave them 3 stars and the place has been packed ever since. it is also for sale these days. if you look in the classified ads of the chronicle they have a looney ad about dylithium crystals being low and needing recharge.

the food there is on the edge of being incredibley creative or snobish. we always joke that
the space cadet is a frustrated architect or painter. anyhow, the food is at times too beautiful
to eat. nevertheless a great once in a while sf exprience that will be missed once it leaves
this planet

keyvan
From: bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Hire's Root (Beer) Extract?
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:25:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Can anyone suggest where to get some ? 

A  friend lamenting of the good old days wondered. I thought of the net.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Subject: Restaurant in Berkeley
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:06:07 GMT


Can someone recommend a nice restaurant close to the UC
Berkeley campus?  Continental or Italian, please.

Thanks,

-- Mark

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mlw@cisco.com (Monica Waldman)
Subject: Re: South Bay vegetarian places
Organization: () 
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:14:26 GMT

In article <JET.92Jul21115649@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>Any suggestions for "real" vegetarian restaurants in the south bay?  I
>miss going into a place and not having to dig through the menu to
>figure out what I can/cannot eat...

Try White Lotus, 80 N. Market in San Joser.  No meat served there.  

-- 
"I like home cooking, but not done in the home; cooking in the home leaves
smells in the house and a film of grease on the counters and on the walls"
                                            ------- David Lynch
From: koreth@twitterpater.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Grimm)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:57:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Federal, Milpitas, CA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM

In <LGOLD.92Jul27173805@callahans.Cadence.COM> lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:
>An Americanized sushi that's cooked (you won't find THIS one in
>Japan!) is "California Roll" or "California Maki"

Actually, my housemate just returned from a trip to Japan, and reports that
California rolls are becoming easier and easier to find there.  His most
interesting dining experience during the trip was being served a bowl of
live shrimp and a pot of boiling water; you can guess the rest.  I expect
you won't find THAT in the U.S.  (Which, some might say, is just as well.)

---
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"We must be brave, and not let them know how frightened we really are."
                 -- OPEN LOOK Graphical User Interface Functional Specification
From: nkk@wet.UUCP (N. K.)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:41:58 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <14mnkoINNp2n@agate.berkeley.edu> nancyann@work.berkeley.edu (Nancy Johnsen Horton) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.211859.12633@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry) writes:
>>Uni separates the sushi fans from the sushi wimps.  My father, sad to
>>say, believes it looks, feels, and tastes like baby shit.  Unfortunate
>>that he's the one who gets to Japan on business, and has to refuse
>>when his hosts offer him this delicacy!!
>>
>and the chef said the uni was very fresh, so we got brave and asked for
>an order.
>
>Nancy

I grew addicted to Uni when traveling regularly through Japan where one
order of two pieces is about $15.00. Don't be shocked, a honey Dew
(ultra sweet and green house grown) is $35/slice and $120 fresh whole
in a corner store.

But I digress.

The Japanese Uni...or their sources, smells and tastes sweet.

In San Francisco, there is a mild but noticably sour and somewhat
offensive odor to it. My Marine biologist friends from Santa Cruz tell
me that the smell originates from the micro-organisms which the Uni 
(Sea Urchin) feeds on. They say the Japanese buy the restaurant variety
sea urchins from deep-sea fishermen who harvest these from about200 to 500
feet of water 250 miles from the nearest inhabited islands.

But sea urchin, tasted in Japan is really quite delicious. Thes SFO
variety doesn't even come close to it.

However, some sushi lovers actually like this strong flavored and
"aromatic" uni (SFO) variety. But I don't.

A similar case is the "Hama Ebi", a variety of shrimp served raw  where
the head is later served to you grilled. It has a very sweet flavor, with
a hint of anise to it. Previously, the Japanese harvested these off their
coast but now have to send their ships to the Coast of East Africa to
harvest and catch them.

Finally, the Toro...the best variety of which are the East Coast, just
after winter to early Spring, when the Tuna is shedding its fat and
the stomach (where Toro is taken) has wonderful marbling. The Japanese
can only get the superior tToro from the East Coast and fortunately,
the West Coast gets first crack. SFO is lucky for that.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
Subject: Re: "pot sticker"
Keywords: ba ny potsticker dumpling Chinese ravioli
Reply-To: ed@pa.dec.com
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:29:38 GMT

> I suspect that _not_ using pot-sticker might be an east coast thing.

The rumer I've heard is that the term "Peking ravioli" was invented by
Joyce Chen when she first opened her restaurant in the Boston area.  I
believe it refers to all varieties, whether steamed, boiled, or fried.
If this is true, it may explain the east coast usage.  West coast usage
seems to use different terms for the various forms, usually "pot
stickers" for the fried ones, and "boiled or steamed dumplings" for the
others, in my experience.

--
Ed Gould	  ed@pa.dec.com		Digital Equipment Corporation
+1 415 688 1309	  Network Systems Lab	505 Hamilton Ave, Palo Alto, CA  94301

"Unison is only one form of harmony." -- LW
From: wrl@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Bill Lewandowski)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Buffalo Wings
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:37:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

Hi,

I'm looking for recommendations for the best place in the
South Bay to get some Buffalo Wings.

Also, is there a "Hooters" in the Bay Area anywhere ?? There
wings are not "Original Buffalo" but they are good.

Thanks,

Bill
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: goodman@royvax.enet.dec.com (Roy Goodman)
Subject: Re: SF places to eat:  North Beach and near Golden Gate Park?
Reply-To: goodman@thebay.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:45:49 GMT


>bedk@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Brian E.D. Kingsbury) writes:
> My sister's coming in for a visit later this week, and I am looking for
> places to take her for meals in San Francisco.  I'm especially interested
> in places within walking distance of Golden Gate Park---we're expecting to
> spend the better part of a day there.  Also, any recommendations for
> North Beach Italian restaurants? 
> 

Our favorite place to take visiting friends/relatives/food lovers is
Ha's, which is on Irving out in the high 20s (? I think - you can't miss
the sign).  Wonderful Chinese seafood.  Don't miss the `Mother and Son
Prawns' or the mu-shu squab, served with lettuce leaves instead of pancakes.

For a beer and some darts, there's Yancy's on Irving at 7th.  Right near
there is Papageno's (? - something like that) good Italian food/pizza.

Out by the ocean, there's Cliff House and a bar which is nice to sit in and 
look at the view.  Never actually eaten there, though...

--
Roy Goodman                                 Digital Equipment Corporation
goodman@thebay.enet.dec.com                 455 Market Street, Suite 700
..!decwrl!thebay.enet!goodman              San Francisco, CA  94105
goodman%thebay.enet@decwrl.dec.com          +1 415 882 3690
          Disclaimer: These opinions are mine only.  Thank goodness.
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Sisters Bakery (Filipino), Sunnyvale (review)
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:17:24 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <9207190554.AA01482@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>I've never had any Filipino food, but I tried some today that
>was pretty tasty.
>
>[...]
>
>Sisters Bakery, on the south side of El Camino between
>Hollenbeck (Pastoria) and Mathilda in Sunnyvale, just east
>of and behind Kirk's Steakburgers.

I've eaten there twice this week since John posted his review.

The first time I had lumpia (egg rolls), a noodle dish and adobo.
Today it was roast pork, the same noodle dish, and one of each
type of lumpia.  The first time, one of the women brought me a
slice of fresh cantaloupe; today, I got a slice of custard jellyroll.
In both cases, I paid $3.99 for the 3-item plate.

The food is fine, although it could definitely be warmer as my meals
both days were just lukewarm.  I have no experience with Filipino food,
either, so I can't compare it to any other restaurants.  I do wish they
had something other than the standard Pepsi selection of fountain sodas
to drink.  I don't think horchata or tamarindo are Filipino drinks, but
either would go well with the food.

I'll be stopping there again from time to time when I need a quick bite
to eat, like when I blow my lunch hour shopping at Macy's.

Charleen
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (-=A L L E N=->LabA<)
Subject: Re: Garlic Fest Virgin
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:43:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.232131.708@crc.ricoh.com> chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton) writes:

>   More specifically than Gilroy, where is it?
>   (Please. No "got to Gilroy and follow your nose";)
>

Actually, those directions are good enough... Really! Last year there were
signs EVERYWHERE pointing towards the festival.

>   What are the usual hours of operation?

Go during the day... as early as you can, perferably.

>   How does the money thing work?  Are ther parking and entrance fees,
>   or do you just buy what you want to sample?
>

I believe parking was free last year. There is a pretty stiff enterance 
fee. (around $10 or so) Once you paid to get in, you gotta pay for each
item of food that you buy. ($3 - $6 each)

>   Are there any known "don't miss" events or stands?

The carimari (squid) cooked in chili and garlic is worth the price of 
admission and the extra couple of bucks on top of it!

My breath still stinks from last year!

>>ALLEN

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Fresh clotted cream - does it exist here?
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:41:03 GMT

In article <james.711843902@wrs.com> james@wrs.com writes:
>Does anyone know if there's any place one can find clotted cream (sometimes
>known as "Devon cream") in the bay area?  I've found it in jars, but that's
>not the same thing.

It certainly isn't.

Try the British Market, 363 State Street, Los Altos, 415-941-1141.
Clearly you'll want to call first before driving from Alameda.

The English Rose restaurant in San Carlos serves "clotted cream"
with scones, but it's not real clotted cream.  It is, however, yummy,
and I prefer it to the potted Devon cream, which to me has an "off"
taste.

Charleen
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Intro to Japanese food
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:52:47 GMT

Well frankly, I am personally, unimpressed with the Japanese restaurants
in the Bay Area.  I know of no good ones down South either.  I personally
don't think it is ammenable to restaurants (sorry no home cookin', and I mean
my Mom was not the greatest Japanese cook either, but better than any
restaurant).

The problem is that the portions are rarely realistic, you get ripped off
for the "atmosphere," and the stuff tends to be more on the decorative
novel side. (I mean I didn't see a bagel until I was 18 [sashimi? age 11?],
rice? just ask anyone who has been to a Japanese restaurant with me).

I thought about a challenge, with a cash prize, but that would just attract
people seeking $20 looking in a phone book.  (And I include SJ and
SF Japantown in this evaluation.)  So you guys should realize that I think
you guys get ripped off at Japanese restaurants.  But I still go.

It could be worse.  I could be seeking good Korean food (that is even harder
to find 8^).  Ah, for a decent sashimi plate.....

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Yes, I have been at "Kabuki West"
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
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Ref: Japan-Think, Ameri-Think, Robert Collins, chap. on eating