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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Subject: Re: Camillemania
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:12:26 GMT
Organization: Netsys Inc.

In article <Pine.3.03.9212200121.A15903-9100000@Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu> harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
>On Sun, 20 Dec 1992, Jim Thomas wrote:
>
>> Why should he when Paglia has so much fun doing it?
>>
>> I also doubt that bwp would follow Paglia in saying that she's sick of
>> hearing about domestic violence, that date-rape is simply a product of
>
>Jim,
>
>First, it was Aaron, not Adam, the List Honey. Paglia is ready to move
>past feminism, and so am I. And if you wanna talk about it more, you
>better get yer ass into IRC.
>

Ah, yes--IRC--for the "Intellectually and Reason Challenged." Is it a
pre-req to have read that of which we speak?? Nah....

Paglia has moved beyond feminism like David Duke has moved beyond 
civil rights. 

If you're saying you agree with her, does that also mean you agree that
domestic violence is an overblown and silly issue? Are you also saying that
you agree that rape victims provoke it? Are you also saying that there's
really no such thing as date rape and that it's basically a non-issue?

Paglia, to modify somebody else's description, is the "thinking man's
Howard Stern." (or Andrew Dice Clay). Sexual Persona was reasonably
interesting, if over-written and formulaic, but SA&AC is simply a collection
of her op-ed hyperbole. She is to "progressive reactionaries" what Judy
Tenuda is to MTV/The Comedy Channel--an occasionally entertaining
comic with little of substance to say.
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From: maynor@walt.tmc.edu (Bernard Chien Perro)
Subject:  Whatever Is The Problem??? 
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:45:27 GMT


This is getting ridiculous.  Is UGA *ever* going to come up again??  Am
I gonna have to go to Athens and help them with their water cooling??
 -- Bernardykins   o/.\___/
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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              17 Dec 92 22:20:46 +0000. <9212172311.AA14019@sics.se>

 >It's a MAC thing

  Nope. You don't do that with a Macintosh.
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: Scandinavians
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:35:31 GMT

ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay) writes:

>Karsten's underwear story reminds me that I read in a novel last night
>that Scandinavians don't like to wear bathing suits.  Is this true,
>Torkel?!

This could mean different things.  Do they prefer to avoid swimming, to
wear something other than bathing suits to swim, or to skinny dip?  As I
think I've said before, I prefer skinny dipping when it's possible.  It
feels good.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Bounced Mail
Date: 20 Dec 1992 05:57:44 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>Oops, sorry I forgot about that. :-(
>
At least none of the header typos were yours!  From this beastie, I have
to reset all of the Reply-TO: lines, if I want the reply to go back to the
list instead of me.  It's the way the Freenet mailer is set up.  And so,
every once in a while, a 'k' creeps into the header....:-)

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:13:22 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: So is this bit.listserv stuff working?
              13 Dec 1992 23:57:06 GMT from <lncjb@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

>I posted the Game Board at start of play yesterday, but it didn't make it
>to uga before it chilled out.... so if message gets through without any
>delays, I will repost it via usenet. I  don't think we can start the game
>before the other players are back online, but we could try a warm-up session
>if you like, for Brad and (Alt-Brad) to get used to the rules.
>Carolyn

    It's Monday noon and this message came in some time after 8:30
    this morning.  You don't have to wait for me to catch on--Hell
    might have chilled water by then.

* Alt-Brad *
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 18 Dec 1992 05:22:10 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>>Holy transpacific deja vu, Batman! [Good ol' Jimmy Carter]  Don't tell me
>>the premier had an alcoholic brother with his own brand of beer....
>
>I know he has a brother who I've seen with a can of XXXX in his hand, so it
>could be the case. I was of two minds whether to count Evelyn correct if she
>had answered 'Jimmy Carter' who may have been called that over there if he
>had had a pilot's licence like 'poor old Joh', but fortunately that situation
>didn't arise.
>
I don't *think* Jimmy has a pilot's license.  To my knowledge, no president
has had one, unless you count George Bush's WWII stuff.  It could easily
have been Jimmy Carter, but he got called Peanut Farmer and worse. He was
more likely to be called the Flaming Idiot rather than Flying Peanut.


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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: plans for salmon bake
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        you will bring me a present of chocolate covered cherries <smack>.

Have we had this conversation before???  Or is it just a coincidence
that I know someone else who beats me up till I give her chocolate-
covered cherries?

G
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: plans for salmon bake
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>
> How about a show of hands, so we'll know what we're working with.
>
> Jenna

I want to come to the bakie bake.
--ggs
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From: lncjb@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Blackberries
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:51:26 GMT

While we're on the subject of 'munching', I made a blackberry pie yesterday.
It wasn't a flop (but there were less blackberries that wound up in it than
were supposed too). The blackberries usually don't ripen until after Christmas,
but with all the rain they are fruiting early. Kevin went out for an hour
yesterday morning and came home with a bucket full.... made two jars of jam
and an extra large pie.... more than enough for six people. We've had more
rain today, so there should be more ready for picking tomorrow..... YUM!

Carolyn
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Subject: Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:28:28 GMT
Organization: Netsys Inc.

In article <1992Dec12.194527.10354@eff.org> rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) writes:
>In article <WORDS-L%92121213391932@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
>
>>But what the hell does this have to do w/ academia?????
>
>	CMC is populated by a large number of academics desperately
>trying to find something to publish on lest they publish.  There was a
>recent thread entitled "Is Lurker PC?"  In which they actually argued
>whether the term was perjorative or not and whether or not they should
>use it in their study.
>
>	In my opinion, it was the silliest thing I have ever read, but
>they were taking themselves quite seriously.

Rita, taking herself quite seriously, was one of the contributors to
that silly thread. She seems to not recognize that on many bitnet 
(and usenet) hotlines, end-of-term papers impel students to look for
shortcuts in their research. The thread to which she alludes was, if I
recall, started by a student, and most of the responses were polite
"this is silly" comments. I think by "taking themselves seriously"
she means that some responses were articulate and tried to make sense.
The fact that she apparently took it into office conversation and
raises the issues here suggests that she is taking it, and herself,
quite seriously. It also suggests that she doesn't recognize the
fallacy of generalizing from the false particular. 
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: NEAT!
Date: 20 Dec 1992 06:10:57 GMT
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In a previous article, ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU () says:

>Posted on 19 Dec 1992 at 22:59:34 by Natalie Maynor
>>while awaiting Judith's plane, which is gonna be 35 mins late.  Sure wish
>
>Tell Judith hello!!!

From me too!  And get her logged in ASAP.:-)  Now if only those airplane
telephones could handle a laptop's modem....:-):-)

		Ruth

ps - has anyone in here read the new White/Gribbin bio on Stephen Hawking?
IMHO the biography parts aren't anything new, but the physics is pretty
interesting.:-)

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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: bruksims
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>   >rattlesnake water melon: bet that this is a play on "watermelon"
>   >and "snakewater", which I *think* is either strong whiskey or homebrew.
>
>   "water melon" was a typo on my part. The passage in the book speaks of
> "a Negro selling rattlesnake watermelons off the back of a truck. He had
> lopped open one melon on the tailgate as an advertisement, and the meat
> was dark red in the shade." They seem to be pretty wholesome stuff.

So they must be what I said.  The ones with the dark green design
similar to the rattlesnake markings.  Good guess.
--ggs (who stole many watermelons as a kid, and almost got shot
       once doing it.....  dead in the shinnery.....)
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:35:36 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Where Love Has Gone
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Giggles,

I missed you lots, as my "Hey Giggles!" message a few days ago ought to
prove...

-abh
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:42:08 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

In article <maynor.724219376@Ra.MsState.Edu> maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) writes:
>times like this.  So far, the gang here tonight doesn't look exactly
>like outsiders, though: Karen, Brad, Bayla, Natalie.

Don't forget me!

G
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Subject: Re: End of year Retrospective
Date: 20 Dec 1992 05:32:31 GMT
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In a previous article, kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) says:

>>The list definitions of "cute" and "hunk" are often very different from the
>>standard ones.  Right, Tushar?<wink, poke>
>
>Not yet, but once I get scanner access back come late January, I'll see
>what I can come up with.  Whether I can compete with Tushar is an entirely
>different matter...
>
You wouldn't want to compete with Tushie, and you couldn't anyway!  There is
no comparison with Tushar - we don't call him the List Tush for nothing!
[...beans, beans, the musical fruit....]  No one else can blow that much
hot air, at least not from that orifice!
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From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: Urbana cuisine

Greetings, Steve,

I wish I were close enough to casually drive to Urbana for some food and
some time in the stacks.  I recall my first visit to La Bamba for a
burrito as big as my head.  I had previously been imbibing some fermented
or distilled or brewed beverage and had a slight buzz, so to speak.  I
ordered my burrito and sat down with it at a table.  As I was examining
this remarkable item, I suddenly became slightly paranoid.  I realized the
cook had taken a calculating look at my cranium prior to filling the
burrito.  I watched him closely for some time, and it seemed to me this was
his habit.  I remain convinced he actually was estimating hat sizes and
ensuring the firm could not be faulted for false advertising.

Marty (make that a 7 and three quarters, please)
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:00:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: URGENT CORRECTION.
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>"What major island lies 250 miles off the south-eastern coast of Africa?"
>
: Oh cute, after wasting all that skull sweat...to get an easy one.:-)
: There's only one big island in that area - Madagascar.

Some follow-up questions: what is Madagascar's most famous export,
and what unusual fish inhabits the nearby waters?

Steve Karlson

(also doing a little bit of goofing off this afternoon)
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From: BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:06:21 GMT

In article <1ge6giINN46q@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay) writes:
 
>
>So UGA has gone down and it's just us guys w/ usenet now?
>
>Karen
 
Looks like it, Karen.
 
U of L just drew a foul a few minutes ago for "taunting"; never
saw that before.  Tight game.
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS <WILLIAMS@MC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PIN-DROP
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Gee, I wonder if George Metesky is at liberty?  8-)
(Perhaps we could get a group rate?)

JMW
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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Posted on 18 Dec 1992 at 17:36:23 by torkel@SICS.SE
>  >HOW'D I DO, TORKEL??
>  NOT SO GOOD.

Hey, I thought I did pretty good considering I have never seen that
much written Swedish before in my life!  Anyway, it was fun.  Swedish
and English are *SO* close, I was surprised.

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:57:28 EST
From:         "Thomas J. Lee" <tjl9@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      User Interface Warz
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Hello again,

        My Commodore 64 finally gave up the ghost, so my wife and I
have bought a Macintosh LC II.  I can live with MS/DOS, Windows, or
Macintosh, but she's not a computer nerd like me, so we went for the
user-friendliness.

        I won't be happy with a user interface until it can read my
mind.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:49:00 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (72>
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On Tue, 15 Dec 1992, karsten wrote:

> > [re: Wolf Blitzer]
>
> Perhaps his full first name is Wolfgang and he doesn't care for Wolfie?

I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that nobody ever
called Mozart Wolfie, nor did he ever call his wife Stanzi.  It was
Wolferl and Stanzerl.  Shaffer had it right in the play but changed it for
the movie (presumably to be more accessible to American audiences).

That's just a little something that bugs me that I like to clear up, when
given the opportunity... :)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:15:27 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NEAT!
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> Tell Judith hello!!!

She says hello back.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:27:06 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Global Village stuff
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On Sat, 19 Dec 1992 samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:

> Harwell, get a life. Even in the hinterland of India we used to
> get emails from Russia. Two years ago, Harwell. And what do you
> mean, what is ".omsk"? Omsk is Omsk. Jeez.

Wow, even in India? Tushar, you are agreeing with GT here: careful, boy...

And what is Omsk? some city?

Feeling lamer by the minute,
-abh
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:04:02 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Proverbs (fwd)
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These Christmasy "Proverbs" were sent to me by Carol Sharp (address below)
and my efforts to thank her privately via e-mail have consistently
resulted in undeliverable mail.  Perhaps some of you Words-Lers will enjoy
them.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)

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          Doris,

               I though you might enjoy a few seasonal word puzzles --
****************************************************************************


          1.  From dark 'til dawn, soundless and sanctimonious.

          2.  Celestial messengers from splendid empires.

          3.  The antlered quadruped with the cerise proboscus.

          4.  Ornamentate the enclosures with large sprigs of berry-bearing
          evergreen.

          5.  Personal hallucinations of an alabaster December 25th.

          6.  Testimony of witness of maternal parentis infidelity with
          Kris Kringle.

          7.  In a distant bovine diner.

          8.  Universal elation.Christmas's dispenser of gifts will appear
          in your metropolitan area.

          9.  Wee urchin beating.

          10. Clappered inverted cups, amalgamated.

          Featured Holiday Ballads!!  Happy Holidays!

          Carol
From: MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery)
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 from _CRAZY ENGLISH_ by Richard Lederer
 (Toronto:Pocketbooks,1989)


                     Janus-Faced English

In the year 1666 a  great  fire  swept  through  London  and
destroyed more than half the city, including three  quarters
of St. Paul's Cathedral.  Sir Christopher Wren, the original
designer of the Cathedral and perhaps the  finest  architect
of all time, was commissioned to rebuild the great  edifice.
He began in 1675 and finished in 1710,  a  remarkably  short
period  of  time  for  such  a  task. When the   magnificent
edifice  was  completed,  Queen  Anne,  the  reigning   mon-
arch, visited the Cathedral and told Wren that his work  was
"awful, artificial, and  amusing."  Sir Christopher, so  the
story goes, was delighted with  the  royal  compliment,  be-
cause in those days awful meant "full  of  awe,  awe-inspir-
ing," artificial meant  "artistic," and amusing,  from   the
muses, meant "amazing."
  That was three hundred  years  ago.  Today,   the   older,
flattering meanings of awful, artificial,  and  amusing have
virtually disappeared from  popular use. Indeed, the general
rule of language is that when a single  word  develops   two
polar  meanings,  one  will become  obsolete.  Occasionally,
though,  two  diametrically  opposed  meanings  of the  same
English  word  survive, and  the  technical term  for  these
schizophrenics  is  CONTRANYM.  More  popularly,  they   are
known  as Janus-faced words because the  Greek   god   Janus
had two faces that looked in opposite directions.
   Here's a little finger exercise. Remember  that  I'm  the
teacher, so you must try to do what I  ask.  Make  a  circle
with the fingers on  your left hand by touching  the tip  of
your index finger to  the  tip  of your thumb. Now poke your
head through that circle.
    If you unsuccessfully tried to fit your head through the
small digital circle, you (and  almost  any  reader) thought
that  the   phrase "poke your head" meant  that  your   head
was the poker. But if you  raised  your left hand  with  the
circle of fingers up close to your forehead and  poked  your
right index finger through that circle until it touched your
forehead,  you realized that the phrase "poke   your   head"
has a second, and opposite, meaning: that the  head  is  the
pokee.

DONALD CHAIN BLACK
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