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From: molly@coos.dartmouth.edu (Revolver)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: PP&M - "Le Deserteur"?
Summary: lyrics to "Le Deserteur".
Keywords: Peter Paul Mary Deserteur lyrics
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:27:55 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

On "Peter, Paul and Mary in Concert", Peter (I think) sings a french folk
song as the first song on the third side.  Just him, with guitar accompanying,
and the name of the song is "Le Deserteur".  From the sound of it, it would be
this century, probably WWII, as it is a pacifist song.

My french is atrocious, but has anyone else been able to piece together the
words to this?  Not in translation, but in the original French.  The first
stanza goes something like:

      Messieurs que noms sont grandes
      Je vous fais une lettre
      Que vous lirez peut-etre
      Si vous avez le temps

I would be, of course, in the eternal debt of anyone who could either produce
the lyrics, or even point me in the direction of a collection or something
that had them.  Mail would probably be simplest.

Thank you!

 - Molly
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From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Wanted Lyrics for Hacker Song
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:57:00 GMT
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6d9ya!-@rpi.edu>, jfritz@ptolemy0.rdrc.rpi.edu (Joe Fritz) writes...
>I use UNIX 
>I grep and awk
>I like to fork and tee
>I have a favorite language:
>It's ANSI standard C.

	Worse than that, it blows the compiler. T true UNIX/C zealot would
	have written:

I use UNIX ;
I grep and awk ;
I like to fork and tee ;
I have a favorite language ;
It's ANSI standard C ;

   Frank R. Borger - Physicist    __       Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Michael Reese - Univ. of Chicago |___      Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
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                                   | \|_)  brains are not proportioned to it.
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From: cruz@lab.ultra.nyu.edu (Nancy Cruz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music
Subject: Re: Looking for Guitar instructor
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:46:46 GMT
Organization: New York University Ultracomputer Research Lab

Hi,

I am looking for a guitar instructor.  Must be good with beginners,
(however I studied flute and violin for 10 yrs, so can read music) 
and located in Manhattan (preferably downtown, village) or Park Slope,
Bklyn.  Also, must be reasonably priced ;-).

I am into folk, funk, blues, rock, latin american.

Any reccomendations would be helpful.  Also other criterias that you
feel I should consider in selecting an instructor.

I will also  be in the market for a guitar (new or used) so any suggestions
regarding that as well would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nancy
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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:03:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth

In article <Bu9Ksr.449@vcd.hp.com> johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes:

   KR#4 (KR#4@lafibm.lafayette.edu) wrote:
   : 
   : >That's the Way That the World Goes 'Round (I was sitting in the
   : >bathtub...)
   : 
   : --  by John Prine
   ----------------------
   John was doing a concert when some girl asked if he was going to do the
   enchilada song.Puzzled he asked which song she was referring to and was
   told, "You know...It's half an enchilada and you think your going to drown".
                          ^^^^^^^                         you're
Small correction that makes the story even better:  she said, "...It's a
happy enchilada ..."

   And she was serious.


   John Eaton
   !hp-vcd!johne



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From: johnh@genghis.borland.com (John Haskey)
Subject: Re: train song tape finished
Originator: johnh@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:18:58 GMT

No one has mentioned 'Trans Europa Express' by Kraftwerk off the album with
the same name.  Or the Track whose name I forget on Phillip Glass'  music
for the movie Powwaquatsi.
								---john.
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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:40:10 GMT

In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>, terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>
>
>   Acres of Clams
>	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
>Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"

This _has_ to be a joke, surely.  Doesn't it?  It sounds like a
double-barrelled parody to me, anyhow.  You could make up a lot of these:
a song about a drummer's convention called "Acres of Flams", or one
about Spanish cooks called "Bakers of Flans", or ... ok, ok, I'll stop.

The tune is the ubiquitous "Rosin the Bow", which I've seen almost equally
often spelled "Rosin the Beau" (but that sounds like yet another parody).
It shows up in a remarkable variety of settings; I recall a horrible
C/W song with the same tune that they used to play all the the time at
the roller rink I hung out at in my childhood.  The chorus went

   "I've been to St. Louis and Abilene,
    I've traveled to many a town.
    But I got me a woman in Denver, Lord,
    That's where I'm settling down."

Anybody remember this, or am I hallucinating again?

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From: hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Last Train to Clarksville (was Re: train song tape finished)
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:51:35 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University

From article <1685E9633.MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU>, by MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice):
>  
> Clark Clifford was Secretary of Defense for about a year: from early
> 1968 until the Nixon administration came in.  Anybody know when the
> song came out?
>
October 1966 (According to one of the dust covers in the only Monkees
record I still have).  
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From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Subject: Re: train song tape finished
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:51:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.200040.736@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
>Did nobody mention "Last train to Clarksville" by the Monkees? (A
>place, apaarently, where there never *was* a railway station)
>
>Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.

I read that "Last Train To Clarksville" is an anti-war song.  The Monkees
wanted to sing one, but their management felt that it wouldn't sit too well
with their television audience, so they recorded (and wrote?) this song as a
very subtle anit-war protest.  Too subtle for me, by the way.  I never
realized that until I read the article.
-- 
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AT&T                    N.Y.C.T.A.
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From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:08:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Sep11.200809.26429
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <1992Sep11.142618.11717@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn) writes:
>>>> Wynken, Blynken and Nod
>>>> 	(...one night sailed off in a wooden shoe...)
>
>I really think that this was one of Carly Simon's first songs. I saw
>an interview with her, and it was at least one of the first songs she
>PERFORMED, and I believe she wrote the music (yes, the lyrics are a
>child's poem).

We sang this in girl scout camp, & while I'm younger than Carly Simon,
I'm actually not *THAT* much younger (its takes a while for songs to
wend their way into the informal girl scout camp repertoire, a culture all
its own)...so I don't think so.  Camp is probably where she learned it...

As posted earlier, & as e-mailed by me (so I can't take net-credit when its
being handed out..but the guy said he wanted e-mail) the 'lyrics' are
actually a poem by Eugene Field (of Cleveland or Columbus Ohio, I believe).

Field wrote "The Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat"
&           "Little Boy Blue"

& the poem that uses the ancient rhyme from which the 
phrase "one flew over the cukoo's nest" comes:

Intry Mintry Cuttery Corn
Apple Tree & Apple Thorn
Wire Briar Limber Lock
Twelve Geese in a flock
Some flew east, 
Some flew west,
Some flew over the cuckoo's nest


...can't remember the name...
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From: stewarte@sco.COM (just a guy made of dots and lines)
Subject: Re: How I spent my Labor Day Vacation - Fall 92 Strawberry Report
Organization: Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:39:15 GMT


After overdosing on Halcion, wsanders@ffeine.corp.sun.com (Wiley Sanders) typed:
>o Best-sounding band: Red Clay Ramblers. If I had a band it would sound
>like this.

I liked 'em a lot too.  I have their latest album "Rambler", which I
used to think was pretty good -- but the songs were so much better
live that it's hard to listen to now.

>o New song title: "E.T. is Up in Heaven with his Finger on the
>Switch".  

How about Psycho-Grass's "There Are No Overdubs In Heaven"?  "St. Peter
will not punch you in if you make a mistake...", accompanied by a very
distinct sour note from bassist Todd Phillips...a cheap joke but a good one.

>Junior Brown's set left everyone dazed and confused Saturday
>night - his sound,  straight off Fort Worth's Jacksboro Highway, is a
>little too hard core North-Central-Texas honk-tonkish for Strawberrians.

Really?  Most of the folks I talked to thought he was great.  Instrumentally,
he's a madman.  His closing number, which interspersed a bouncy western
riff with quotes from Hendrix and Nugent, was completely out of left field.

[ after the power failure ]
>the rest of Hot Rize reemerged with Darryl Anger and Tony Trishka
>they bravely attempted to finish a REAL acoustic jam. Despite
>connecting the monitor amps to an RV generator, and the illumination of
>the stage by hundreds of flashlights from the audience, the set was cut
>a few numbers short.

They deserve big kudos for pressing on the way they did, if you ask me.
I really wish they'd done an encore, though, just for the sense of
closure it would bring.  Oh yeah, much praise owed to the crew for 
managing to get any amplification at all...

-- Stewart

P.S.  Anyone find Tim O'Brien's sunglasses?
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From: lanih@herald.Berkeley.EDU (J. Lani Herrmann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Frankenfiddle
Date: 11 Sep 1992 22:05:37 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.berkeley.edu
Summary: Musical instrument museums
Keywords: Instruments, museums

Run, do not walk, to your local university library, music department, and
ask the reference librarian for a directory of museums with collections
of music. There was such a directory I think edited by Cynthia Hoover
of the Smithsonian (not a bad place to start inquiring, if you have access
to the nation's capital). Frinstance Scott Odell used to be a curator and
is/was now/recently an administrator/bureaucrat, and he's widely knowledgeable,
not to mention Ms Hoover and a bunch of other folks there. I've also met
someone at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City, who have a
pretty respectable collection; this was eons ago, so I can't mention names,
but the point is look around and ask (preferably armed with pictures, if
not the instrument itself) and eventually you'll find someone who knows.
	Good luck. -- Lani


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From: dudleyd@wl.com (Dave Dudley)
Subject: Solomon Grundy
Keywords: Crash Test Dummies
Organization: Doubtful
Distribution: USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:40:57 GMT

I'm wondering if anyone has some insight to the reference
to "Solomon Grundy" in _Superman's Song_ by Brad Roberts (found on
The Ghosts that Haunt Me by the Crash Test Dummies).

Having fallen behind on my reading of Superman comics, I at first 
thought this might be a character from there.  However, I recently
ran across a nusery rhyme about Solomon Grundy.  Is there any historical
basis to this character?
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From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:18:54 GMT

In article <BuBtIL.26I@news.larc.nasa.gov> young@blitz.larc.nasa.gov (David Young) writes:
> 
>> How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away
>> 	(I've talked to your mother I've talked to your dad...)
>
>This appears on the Dan Hicks album "Original Recordings"

This title existed as a joke at least as early as the mid 60s, when I heard
the New Lost City Ramblers mention it along with other apochryphal songs
they thought they might sing, such as "I'm lonesome in the saddle since my
hoss died" and "You left footprints on my stomach when you walked out of
my heart".

-David
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From: dbw@svl.cdc.com (Dave Woerner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:43:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk

mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:


>here's a couple:

>>Everyday
>	Buddy Holly and Norman Petty, 1957

Norman Petty owned the recording studio where Holly and the Crickets
did most of their recording.  He acted as their producer/engineer/mentor
and was very much a part of Holly's success.  However, he seems to
have taken credit for co-writing songs where he had no business
doing so.  From what I've read, I would hesitate to give him credit
for Holly songs even though he is legally listed as co-author.

Dave
From: David.Thomas@brunel.ac.uk (David Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:29:21 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


I found a CD-single in the UK recently with solo live versions from a
radio show of Blackberry Blossom, Over the Waterfall and 33 RPM soul +
album version of 33 RPM soul.

David Thomas
Brunel University
From: sfriedman@pbs.org (FRED)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:03:15 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep5.035703.14769@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
> In article <1992Sep5.024939.9081@rock.concert.net> barber@jazz.concert.net 
(Scott Barber) writes:
>>[re: `Will the Circle Be Unbroken']
>>On my "Circle" album, I notice the song was written by one A.P. Carter.
>>Does anybody know what the A.P. stands for? 

> A.P. was the patriarch of the legendary Carter Family.  Although the A.P.
> undoubtedly stood for something, I cannot recall any reference to anything
> other than "A.P."

Alvin Pleasant Carter, or so I recall from the booklet that came with my
RCA `The Carter Family' record about ten years ago.....don't have that
right at hand, however.

I'm not sure he *wrote* `Will the Circle Be Unbroken,' `Wabash
Cannonball' and some other songs usually credited to him -- at best, I think,
they may have been his `adaptations' from traditional sources, or maybe Ralph
Peer's Victor *recordings* of the Carters were the first recorded performances
of those songs.  (Peer International Corp. is still the publisher/owner of
those A.P. Carter versions.)  Anyone have any more background?

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From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Tamburitza ( was Re: Mutant Viola?)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:46:36 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep11.003816.11106@ttinews.tti.com>, bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart) writes:
|> 
|> What's a tamburitza, and where do they come from?
|> 

Tamburitzas are more or less the national instrument of (the former) Yugoslavia.
But mainly from Serbia & Croatia; in Macedonia they play the tambura
(a related instrument but not really the same family) and gajda (bagpipe).

Tamburitzas are plucked fretted chordophones (! :-) - they've got frets and
are played with picks, mandolin fashion. They are a family of instruments,
like the viols, with 4 principal sizes: prim (smaller than a violin, often
shaped like a canoe paddle), brach (a little smaller than a guitar, usually
guitar shaped), cello (size of a large guitar, usually held like a guitar)
and bass (size of a small bass viol, played upright.)

These are tuned in 4ths, like the lower strings of a guitar. The instruments
usually have 4 courses each, but older prims sometimes had only 3. The
prim and brach are the lead instruments, usually strung with single strings
on the lower 2 strings & double on the higher 2 courses.

That's the basic description. Things are actually a little more complex:
there are several "harmony" versions of prim & brach, tuned a 4th lower,
and a chording instrument called a "bulgaria" or just "bug". The instruments
are played in small 3-6 piece ensembles, or occasionally in full
orchestras (IMHO the small ensembles are the more interesting music). The
technique uses a fair amount of tremolo or fast 16th notes, depending on the
tune being played.

Serbs will often call the instruments "tamboura" instead of "tamburica"
(I think that "tamburica" is just a diminuitive of "tambura" in any case),
which makes for a little confusion of reference at times since Macedonians
and Bulgarians have another plucked-fretted instrument (but otherwise not
too closely related) called "tamboura", and the Turks have yet another
instrument of the same name. (I think the name is also used for an Indian
instrument.)

.... always glad to provide more than you ever wanted to know on the topic.

	terry friedman
From: tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:49:42 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

I know it's not math or physics, but there's a charming 
little book called "The Biochemist's Songbook" which takes
biochemeical processes and sets them to well-known
tunes (the book is British, and I think some of the
tumes are better known there than here, but some sheet
music is included).
This book was really useful to my wife during her first year
of med school!

Tristan

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e-mail: tbd@neuro.duke.edu
Department of Neurobiology, Duke University Medical Center

"grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! oot piffoo blaboo..." -- Opus
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From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Jean Redpath
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:13:17 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Speaking of Jean Redpath, it occurs to me that I might finally be able
to find out about a song I heard on the radio some years ago.  I'm
reasonably certain it was performed by Jean Redpath, it had the same
tune (I later learned) as a strathspey called "The Devil in the
Kitchen", contained repeated references to a "bonnie birdie", and had
the following chorus, as near as I can remember it:

Wow for the day, oh, gin it were the day,
Oh gin it were day
and gin I were away
for I dinna hae lang tae stay (diddle)

Anybody recognize this?

Slainte!
	- Leigh Ann

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"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck
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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: train song tape (2 more)
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:22:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.130515.1304@guvax.georgetown.edu>, mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
> To all who contributed, thanks very much. My nephew may not like
> all these choices, but I hope they will spur some serious musical
> interest. If I didn't use your selection it may not have been available
> to me. I think I have a few here, too, that no one else thought of.
> I have enough suggestions for a Vol.3! Also you'll see from the times 
> listed at right that in certain cases I used an excerpt. I chose the Mingus
> "A" Train version because it breaks down to a Mal Waldron stride piano solo
> in the middle. The Chick Corea sounds just like a train - when I have
> played it myself on the piano for kids they say "a train"! I.G.Y. of course
> talks about a train from New York to Paris in 90 "underground by rail."
> Side D may be over the head of an 8-year old, but he may come back to it
> later and like it. 
> 
> Bill McHenry
> 

Well for your NEXT tape...

Blue Water Line		The Brothers Four
Fast Freight		The Kingston Trio

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