HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Choosing newsgroups to read
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:08:03 GMT

Recently I have seen a couple of examples of programs which allow folk
to be hand held in the selection of newsgroups of which to subscribe.  This
tweaked my interest, not for personal aid, but for aid of a large 
community of new usenet users.

Does anyone have a software name that I can use in archie to locate either
of the following (since rn and trn do not have such facilities built in - yes,
I know that other newsreaders do, but I am looking for stand alone utilities,
thank you very much):

1.	An 'expert' type system which asks questions as to the user's interests
	and then, based on their answers, selects more specific questions on
	the topic until a range of newsgroups are identified.  It would then
	determine whether the groups that match these interests have entries
	in the user's existing .newsrc file, and if so, moves these to the
	beginning of the file and makes sure they are marked as subscribed.
	If a user specifies they are not interested, the groups would be
	unsubscribed - all other groups are left alone (that is not added,
	unsubscribed or subscribed).

2.	A 'curses' based interface similar to trn's thread selection
	type interface, which would display group names and their newsgroups
	descriptions.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: TIN 1.1 PL6 problems: long .newsrc lines, tind dying
Cc: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@germany.eu.net
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:26:54 GMT

(Posted to news.software.readers; cc'ed to Iain.)

Two problems I've noticed this morning.

(a) Tind is suddenly dying on startup with a SIGSEGV.  I run it (su'ed
to news) every fifteen minutes in crontab, and have not recently
recompiled or reinstalled either tin or tind.  I will poke at the
source later to look for obvious problems, but does this ring a bell
with anyone?  Might it be related to the suddenly enormous number of
".newsrc.nnnn" files, where nnnn is some number between three and five
digits, in news' home directory?

(b) A less serious problem, I think.  When reading in the user's
.newsrc file, tin truncates lines to LEN characters (1024, as defined
in tin.h).  Unfortunately, newsreaders like trn, my newsreader of
choice, tends to create very long lines in .newsrc (since it
encourages reading articles out of chronological sequence, and it also
frequently marks cross-referenced articles as read in unsubscribed
newsgroups).  If one switches between trn and tin periodically, the
.newsrc lines get munged.  If folks like the idea, I will write a
patch to allow tin to accept arbitrarily long .newsrc lines and submit
it to Iain.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: burney@cc.gatech.edu (Clifton D. Burney Jr.)
Subject: Software for speech problems
Reply-To: burney@cc.gatech.edu (Clifton D. Burney Jr.)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Tech
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:34:17 GMT


This is my first post, so bare with me.

I have a cousin who, at an early age, had fluid in his hear that caused him
to hear sounds as if he was under water.  As a result, his speech was muffled
and mimicked the "underwater" sounds he heard early in life.

After a series of operations, his hearing is partly corrected; but his speech
has not accelerated to that of a 7 year old boy.  This phonic problem has 
also affected is spelling.  

I was looking for software that employed some speech recognition technique.
Software that would pronounce words to him, and in turn, he would speak
back to the computer with the computer recognizing his phonetics as correct
or not.  I was looking at the software package Kid Works by Davidson & 
Associates, Inc.; but his doesn't do speech recognition.

Any suggestions??

Clifton Burney
burney@cc.gatech.edu

					
					-Clifton D. Burney Jr. (burney@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Peter Mckinney)
Subject: Re: TIN 1.1 PL6 problems: long .newsrc lines, tind dying
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 17:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
: (Posted to news.software.readers; cc'ed to Iain.)
: 
: Two problems I've noticed this morning.
: 
: (a) Tind is suddenly dying on startup with a SIGSEGV.  I run it (su'ed
: to news) every fifteen minutes in crontab, and have not recently
: recompiled or reinstalled either tin or tind.  I will poke at the
: source later to look for obvious problems, but does this ring a bell
: with anyone?  Might it be related to the suddenly enormous number of
: ".newsrc.nnnn" files, where nnnn is some number between three and five
: digits, in news' home directory?
: 

I have experienced the same problem and have not been able to trace it
to any particular sequence of events.  It appears to occur randomly (and
more often than not, now).  I get a SIGSEV(11) error just after (or
occasionally just before the "new group" question.

- Pete
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| Electrohydrodynamic Laboratory                                           |
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| Civil Engineering Department                                             |
| Colorado State University                                                |
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: Newsreader for VM/CMS system (client)
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:47:18 GMT

Ray Lauff (ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu) wrote:
: We are looking for a client newsreader for VM/CMS Version 5.5.

from the FAQ: (Subject: USENET Software: History and Sources)

    There is at least one NNTP news-reader for VM using XEDIT as its
    screen manager: NNR.  Contact Paul Campbell (pc@mbunix.mitre.org) for
    information.  The program requires IBM's FAL TCP/IP.  The software is
    available for anonymous ftp from rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
    [129.69.1.12] in the directory
    soft/kommunikation/news/beginner/software/vm-cms/*.

I recommend it.
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ayman@eecs.umich.edu (Ayman I. Kayssi)
Subject: Re: automatic news forwarding
Organization: ACAL, EECS, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:54:24 GMT

bond@newton.dep.anl.gov wrote:
>I am looking for such and animal also.

I have written a script in Perl that does this. Send me email if you'd
like to get a copy.

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From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (NICOLAS-MAXIME PAIEMENT)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: rn...
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:35:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: DMI.Bw2xBu.73J
Organization: Ascot Boyz - ANS Reader - BB #1

Hi!
	
   I would like to know if it's possible to word-out some of the headers
lines... Because I have ELM and there's an option to do that but
on RN, I don't know if it exists... Thanks!


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From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Anyone using "wafe"?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:16:35 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com


I haven't heard much discussion about it.

						...Mike

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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,netcom.general,netcom.software
Subject: Re: Printing From trn?
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:04:23 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison) writes:

>westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) wrote:
>> how do I configure trn so that it uses csh instead of sh as the
>> environment in which to execute the piped command?

>Excerpts from the trn manpage:

>#     | command
>#             Shorthand for "s | command".

>#     s destination
>#             Save to a filename or pipe using sh.  If  the  first
>                                         ^^^^^^^^
>#     S destination
>#             Save to a filename or pipe using a preferred  shell,
>#             such  as  csh.  Which shell is used depends first on
>#             what you have the environment variable SHELL set to,

>So by extrapolation, you'd do a:

>        S | progname

>to use the current setting of your SHELL variable.  Alternately, you could
>macro | to "S|" by putting the following line into your .rnmac file:

>|       %(%m=a?S|:|)

>though you might just want to macro some other character to the entire
>print command:

>~       %(%m=a?S|lpr^M:~)

>(both of these are untested, but they should work).  Also, check out the
>PIPESAVER environment variable:

>#     PIPESAVER (%)
>#             The shell command to execute in order to  accomplish
>#             a  save  to a pipe ("s | command" or "w | command").
>#             The command typed by the user is substituted  in  as
>#             %b.
>#
>#             Default: %(%B=^0$?<%A:tail +%Bc %A |) %b
>#
>#             Explanation: if %B is 0, the command  is  "<%A  %b",

>which could be modified to execute csh from the spawned sh.  Perhaps:

>%(%B=^0$?/bin/csh <%A:tail +%Bc %A | /bin/csh) %b

>would work.

And as you'll find out if you try any of the above: the aliases for the
replacement shell won't be effective (in csh's case, .cshrc doesn't
run).  So it looks like I'm stuck writing a script.

Hmm, does anyone vote for just adding an option to trn to print the
current article using some command that you can specify in a settings
file?

Will
From: rjberke@berke.itg.ti.com (Richard Berke)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Trumpet for FTP SW stack just hangs
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:47:41 GMT
Organization: Electronic Communications

I have not been able to get the Trumpet app running over FTP Software's
2.1 ETHDRV kernel/IP stack.  

I obtained the NEWSX.EXE and NEWSABI.EXE programs.  I renamed NEWSABI.EXE
to NEWS2.EXE.  NEWSX loads, seems to find NEWS2 okay, but the attempt to
get out to reach the news server never succeeds, never times out, and the
PC is hung.  I have to reboot.  

Anyone run into this?

Thanks,
Richard Berke   RBRK   Richard.Berke@lobby.ti.com  (214) 575-2828
Texas Instruments      Plano, Texas
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: s300@brems.ii.uib.no (Thor Hovden)
Subject: Tin 1.1 PL6 - unKILL?
Summary: Unkill operation in tin wanted
Keywords: TIN
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:51:23 GMT

A little request to the tin-maintainer;

I've killed a subject using the kill save operation.  But now
I want to read it again.  It seems that marking the subject
for auto-selection does not help.  A feature in which one could
do this would be fine.  If the index file can be edited directly
(can it?), it would suffice.

--
Thor Hovden (s300@brems.ii.uib.no)
From: dschneid@ece.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: automatic news forwarding
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:15:45 GMT
Organization: Univ of Wisc, Madison - ECE
Originator: c1idrs@koinsy01


I have several Unix accounts - some with a full news feed
some with a partial feed.  I would like software that I
could run once a day on a full feed (NNTP) account that would
pull all articles from a set of groups and send them via email
to a different account.

Does such an animal exist?

Dan
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: emcguire@Intellection.COM (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: Software for speech problems
Supersedes: <EMCGUIRE.92Oct9190600@fuller.Intellection.COM>
Organization: Intellection Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:58:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.023417.18983@cc.gatech.edu> burney@cc.gatech.edu (Clifton D. Burney Jr.) writes:

   This is my first post, so bare with me.

Yes, it's much easier to talk in front of a crowd when you imagine
that they aren't wearing clothes.  Perhaps the Nude Users articles
ought to make this requirement clearer.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: automatic news forwarding
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:28:42 GMT

dschneid@ece.wisc.edu wrote:
: 
: I have several Unix accounts - some with a full news feed
: some with a partial feed.  I would like software that I
: could run once a day on a full feed (NNTP) account that would
: pull all articles from a set of groups and send them via email
: to a different account.

Run tin from cron on the main feed machine to mail new news to you:

  tin -M dschneid@ece.wisc.edu

Will mail all new articles in all the groups that you are subscribed 
to in your .newsrc to the specified mail address.

Iain

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Newsgroups: bnr.news.admin,news.software.readers
From: mdm@bnr.ca (Diane MacMartin)
Subject: Re: trn and KILL files
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:14:54 GMT

Rheal,

I don't know why your file isn't working as you describe, but I
have a more efficient method, I think, to accomplish the same
thing.

Mark the articles you want to read as M (mark as read until you
exit the group), then use c to catchup - the remaining articles will not
be marked read one-by-one but will be done in bulk.  The articles
that you marked will then be Yanked back as unread.

I've never tried this method from a kill file, but I use it all
the time from command line mode.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: bond@newton.dep.anl.gov
Subject: re: automatic news forwarding
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:24:20 GMT

I am looking for such and animal also.

Direct replies welcome.

Christopher Baker
Argonne National Laboratory
Division of Educational Programs
bond@newton.dep.anl.gov
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Complicated "kill" in rn--how to?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:11:51 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I'm trying to "reverse" the usual meaning of a KILL file
under rn--I want to junk all articles BUT the ones matching
the patterns in the kill file.

For example, I'm only interested in articles in
comp.dcom.modem having the word "Forval" (my brand of modem)
in the header or body text. An example of the KILL file I attempted was:
	c
	/forval/arM
After many variations, it appears that for the "a" operator,
the search starts at article number 1. It there anyway in a
KILL file to use the number in the THRU line as the
beginning address of a search?

----
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718-855-9148

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{cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman
From: ake@dayton.saic.com (Earle Ake)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: INN and tin problem
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:30:03 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Intl Corp - Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


	I have a problem when trying to use tin with INN.  I can not access
the articles stored on the local system.  If I however define the NNTPSERVER
to myself and run rtin, it works fine.  What gives?


-Earle
ake@dayton.saic.com
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: venki@ece.scarolina.edu (Venki M. S. Iyer)
Subject: inn1.2 installation.  HELP!!
Keywords: help, help, more help with inn installation....
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date:  8 Oct 92 03:44:04 GMT

'm trying to install inn1.2, and am running into problems ---

I've configured my site (without a news-feed -- newsfeeds is not set up)
and gotten a list of active groups (getlist ...), run makeactive,
and makehistory.  When I start innd (sh rc.news), innd complains 
about newsgroups in active and quits -- the exact message is:

	Message from syslogd@sol at Wed Oct  7 22:48:57 1992 ...
	sol innd: ME bad_active alt.comp.acad-freedo...

and that's the first group in active -- removing it resulted in innd
complaining about another line.  

Any help (what to do, or copies of other site config files) would 
be gladly welcomed.

-venki
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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: one article - multiple newsgroups
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:16:47 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: inet

[ Please limit your postings to <75 characters per line. Thanks. ]

In news.software.nntp, article <1992Oct6.180418.25298@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
  jona@iscp.bellcore.com (Jon Alperin) writes:
> And since staff expires articles, while the staff.faq does not, we lose the
> reply.
> 
>  Since I know little about how the nntp/c-news stuff works, can someone please
> (please!) point me to the changes I need to make to insure that articles 
> posted to multiple newsgroups actually stay in those newsgroups?
> 
You don't even have a problem. You don't see the article in staff.faq because
you're reading staff first, and your friendly newsreader notes that the
article is crossposted and conveniently skips it the second time around.

However, the article is still there, and given a correct expiry control file
it will stay there. Other people, who read staff.faq but not staff (or who
have staff after staff.faq in their news readers' newsgroup list), will
be able to see it there.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: aras@multix.no (Arne Asplem)
Subject: Missing ../samples/innreport when building INN 1.2
Organization: Multix A.S
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:31:38 GMT

The file ../samples/innreport is reported missing then I attempt 
to build (running BUILD) INN v. 1.2. Is this important ?

  -- Arne
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From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: INN Path header woes (new problem?)
Date: 13 Oct 1992 11:11:22 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet

This is a somewhat messy issue:
    When someone outside your campus sends you an article, their name
    should be first (right after "Path: ") in the Path line.

    What about a workstation?  Should the workstation be in the Path line?
    INN basically believes, and that you should put the full domain name
    there.
If you don't want your workstation there, then set INEWS_PATH to DONT.
This means that nnrpd (the newsreader NNTP server) will add the server's
Path name.  Note that by the time an article gets to innd, there must be a Path
line:  all articles are required to have a Path line.  So, *somebody* must
put a path.

Innd puts its name in the Path line, too.  It has to.  It could do the C
News thing of not adding to the Path if it would add what is at the start
of the Path (someone sent me patches for that), but that is an ugly hack
for a minor gain.  ("Please check the Path of all incoming articles just
so that I avoid saying ``foo!foo'' on articles that are posted from my
workstations.")
	/r$
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Where can one get INN?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 09:21:19 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <19921013.174650.461@almaden.ibm.com> keesey@vnet.ibm.com (James Keesey) writes:
>Where can I get INN?  Archie doesn't seem to know about it.
The official source is ftp.uu.net, networking/news/nntp/inn.
Perhaps you are using an old archie program or server or something?
I just did "archie inn" and got 34 hosts.

>Answers should be email-ed to me.
I sent you a copy of my archie output.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: pbrande1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Philip Brandenberger)
Subject: Problem installing INN 1.2
Followup-To: news.software.nntp
Organization: Swarthmore College
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:27:06 GMT

I'm having problems getting INN installed on a DecStation 5000 
(Ultrix 4.2a).  

I have had no problems building the package, but when I run rc.news
to start INN I get the following message in syslog:

> Oct 12 00:33:49 forum innd: ME internal no to group

and of course INN doesn't start.  I have replaced the Ultrix cron
and syslog...otherwise this should be a simple operation.

What does this error message mean?

Thanks,
Phil

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