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                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2828

                            Monday, July 27, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                            Re: TDD RELAY SERVICE
                       Re: Myo-fascial pain & rolfing
                               Re: Pain Relief
                               funding ideas?
                            Dublin accomodations
                     On disability and sexual minorities
                          Lever-driven wheelchairs?
                          Re: WHEN PLACARDS TRAVEL
                         Re: Tdd software/ programs
                      Adaptive technology for computers


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Subject: Re: TDD RELAY SERVICE
From: CONLEY@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU (Steven Conlee)

Hello all,
 This is in response to the "Poll" as to whether relay
services should or should not monitor and/or evaluate
personal calls per relay services.      (by Hugues Blanchet)

 Hugues, I don't respond much to l-hcap, but this is a
very interesting topic, in which I personally feel is an insult
to anyone's personal affairs.
 Maybe I should re-introduce myself:

	Steve Conlee
	hearing
	age: 33
	enjoy: A.S.L., karate, volunteer work,(more than my paying job;
	       ooops!), nature, philately, etc......
	(frequently on deaf-l)

 Now, in response.  This "monitoring of relay calls", I feel is
wrong as far as privacy is concerned;  yet, I feel the need to
monitor does have its advantages, too.  From my understanding,
these CA's are like interpreters; they have a "Code of Ethics",
(so to speak), which prohibits them from "passing on" any
work related experiences to anyone, ANYONE!.  In other words,
They can't say "$&!+" about what goes on at work!   fini!
 YET, you show me an "angel among us" that has never gossiped,
or lied, or done even the smallest of sins.  The possibility of
these CA-manager's breaking their "Code of Ethics" is definitely
possible.
 The only advantage I can think of is to boot-out those unwanted
CA's that are rude, or don't do their job as per the rules of
their jobs; that of relay agents.
 Oh!  Question: Did you know that every phone call or connection;
(hearing, deaf, computer linked, etc...) is recorded on magnetic
tape?   Hmmmmm?  My point here; if all calls were not monitored
in some way or another, then the phone lines would be flooded with
obscene phone calls, murderers, robberies, etc....
These phone companies are also ruled by certain government laws and
restrictions which they must adhere to in order to stay "legal".

>I'm the one that started this poll.  I was asking everybody if they
>thought a monitoring system should be installed in ANY Relay Centers.

Democratically speaking, ..... no.

>So, what do you think of the Remote Monitoring System Laurel?  Do you
>think it should be there or that they should think of something else
>(that would NOT affect our privacy) to evaluate their CA's?
>Karen had a very good alternative to this.  They should have the
>supervisors call the Relay THEMSELVES and evaluate the CA's
>DIRECTLY without having OUR privacy jeopardized.  They will then be
>able to evaluate their responses (the CA's) to whatever they might tell
>them (be it threatening calls, X-Rated calls, or what have you).

BTW, these relay agents are to do one basic thing;
transmit letter-for-letter, word-for-word, communication
between deaf/hoh/hearing customers and nothing more.

>Up to now, I got 8 NO's for one YES... (I wont say who it comes from
>because the person didn't say NO openly but she isn't AGAINST it
>neither (ahemmm....).

(be nice)  :+)

>Voila! Operation Desert Storm is over... Operation BRS Tornado
>is under way... And just like the last one... it will be
>VERY short!

(Flames getting too hot here?)  :+O

>So the Director of the BRS in Montreal will have one hell of a showdown
>when she comes back from vacation (she doesn't know yet what
>will hit her when she'll come back...>;-)........
>Yippi yayayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :-)

Ride 'em cowboy!  (I hope that's not a 'killer bull' you're ridin'
partner)

>Amicalement votre,

>Hugues


			Beautiful day to all,
			Steven Conlee
			CONLEY@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU
		     or DEAF-L@SIUCVMB.EDU




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Subject: Re: Myo-fascial pain & rolfing
From: renee@tso.uc.EDU (Renee Alper)

My opinion against cortisone isn't just personal experience,
although that factors in, too. Cortisone helps masks symptons, but
frequently only lasts a short while. I was put on 3000mg a week of
IV prednisone while under- going plasma feresis, and that may have
contributed to the multiple neck fracture I sustained later on in a
car accident (my bones were probably more brittle as a result).
But, I am a very firm beleiver in holistic medicine, and cortisone
is a toxic, dangerous substance, IMHO. It generlly doesn't
stimulate remission, and can have many side effects, including
weight gain (which, in the case of an arthritic disease, is not a
good idea).

And ultimately, what is injected in the trigger point is far less
relevant than the actual invasion of the needle. I am very excited
about my current treatments in this and other areas, and have had
some relief in allowing muscles that have been stuck in spasm to
relax, which we hope will lead to an overall reduction in leg
spasms. I've also had some minor relief so far with what I had
thought was nerve pain, but seems now to be myo-fascial pain.
Chiropractic is also helping me immensely.

                                       Renee



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Subject: Re: Pain Relief
From: dorsieh@agora.rain.com (Dorsie Hathaway)

Gentlemen:

I am responding to this as I am a nurse, a person with chronic
pain, and a former TENS specialist.

TENS is prescribed for treatment of benign pain (non-malignant)
by physicians.  Oftentimes, MDs will sign a 'blanket' PT order
which allows physical therapists to choose from a wide range
of treatment modalities, including TENS.

TENS stands for transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation.

It does not "short" out or cause pain (at least not by design!).
TENS is meant to interfere with pain signals and cause distraction
in the area of the problem.  It has also been shown to work at
areas far removed from the injured site.

You can get a TENS unit for use at home on a trial basis from
just about any PT..and if it works well for you, your insurance
may pay for a unit.  There is a lot of controversy over this,
as they are expensive and have been distributed inappropriately
in the past.

If you need it for a short term thing (less than six months) it
is probably more cost effective to rent one.

TENS is non-addictive and the only real risk with it is that
you will pull a pin out of the electrode and give yourself a
little jolt.  IT is nothing compared to plugging into 110 by
mistake, however!  :)

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Dorsie Hathaway


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				             AOL:	DorsieH
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Subject: funding ideas?
From: ldonovan@u.washington.edu (Leslie Donovan)

Hello again!  I am a grad. student with a mobility-impairment.  I
am in my final year of my work on my doctorate in English.
Currently, I am writing my dissertation and will be finished with
it by March of 1993.  But, since I've been living here in Seattle
the barometric changes have exacerbated my rheumatoid arthritis and
to make a long story short I have decided to return to NM (my home)
to finish my dissertation.  Unfortunately, I have had to give up
all my grad. student funding at the University of Washington to do
so.  I am in the process of trying to get a student loan (I've
already been having to take out student loans anyway) and that is
where my other thread about residency/driver's license problems
comes in.  (Yes, it's very tricky-- I have to get residency to be
able to afford to pay tuition and by paying tuition I will have
some money left over after tuition from the student loan to live
on-- but I have to pretend to be living in Seattle to do this).

Anyway, I would really rather not take out another student loan and
have to go through all this tricky finaggling, but I have tried and
tried to get other funding (dissertation fellowships mostly) and
have come up empty.  Does anyone out ther know of any organizations
who provide funding for cases such as mine?

Most organizations only fund medical stuff.  Also, most
organizations have a year lead time to get grants-- i.e. if I apply
this fall I wouldn't get it until next fall and by then I hope to
be finished with my degree.  Awhile back DVR here told me they
wouldn't fund my Ph.D. work, but would consider funding me if I
stopped my degree and went back for a second B.A.  in Education.
They felt like job opportunities are better for high school
teachers than for people with Ph.D.s-- I refused fairly politely
:-).  I am considering some NM state welfare funding but NM is very
poor in these kind of resources and it would certainly not be
enough for me to live on (I pay $700/mo. just for attendant care).

Any ideas, suggestions you all have about how I can be funded while
I'm working full-time or at least 3/4 time on my dissertation will
be most appreciated.  You see at the stage of my career I'm in, it
is pretty much suicide to try to work while you are writing your
dissertation.  Of course, all of this is so that once I have my
degree a whole lot of job opportunities will be available to me--
but those kind of jobs are still another year or year and a half
down the road-- so what can I do in the meantime?  Prostitution?
Money's good, but I don't think my joints could take it ;-()

Leslie

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     ()  E-MAIL:				     SNAIL MAIL:
	 Internet - ldonovan@u.washington.edu	     English Dept. GN-30
						     University of Washington
	 PHONES: 206-543-3832 (office)		     Seattle, WA 98195
	 	 206-246-2986 (home)		     U.S.A.

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Subject: Dublin accomodations
From: ldonovan@u.washington.edu (Leslie Donovan)

I appreciated the note about UCD housing very much.  I attended UCD
(lived a year in Ireland on a study grant) in 1986-87 and there
were no such wheelchair accessible dorms when I was there.  I had
to rent a very expensive, semi-accessible apartment very near UCD.
When traveling in Ireland, I always had to have a TAB with me
because so very few places (like B&Bs) are really accessible-- i.e.
there's often one step or two up to the door.

Another thing to keep in mind in transportation in Dublin.  Unless
things have radically changed since I was living there, there is NO
accessible public transportation.  In other words, if you are
staying out at UCD, how do you get into Dublin proper which is 3-4
miles away?  When I did it I would walk with my TAB aide 3/4 of a
mile to the DART station (DART = Dublin area Rapid transit-- it's a
commuter train, basically) where the DART would whiz up and my aide
would have to quick pop my manual wheelchair up the one step into
the DART before the electric doors closed.  That took us into town
and we would walk from there.  It was OK, but not very convenient
and we ended up feeling very isolated from local events because of
the transportation problem.  Also, the DART stopped at 10 p.m.  i
think, so we would have to get the last DART home or take an
expesnive cab back to our apartment if we were going to be late.

Leslie

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OOOOO||==============>  Ms. Leslie A. Donovan
     ()  E-MAIL:				     SNAIL MAIL:
	 Internet - ldonovan@u.washington.edu	     English Dept. GN-30
						     University of Washington
	 PHONES: 206-543-3832 (office)		     Seattle, WA 98195
	 	 206-246-2986 (home)		     U.S.A.

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Subject: On disability and sexual minorities
From: phoenixl@netcom.com (Scott Luebking)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I've been asked to write an article on people who are both disabled
and in a sexual minority, e.g. bisexual, gay, lesbian.  I'm just
beginning the research and the topics are pretty open.  Some
possible topics include issues of being a double minority, meeting
people, discrimination, surprising sources of support,
relationships, identity conflicts, sub-cultures' reponses to ADA.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would like to offer
experiences or ideas.  My e-mail address is phoenixl@netcom.com and
my number is 510-548-9215 .  (Desires for confidentiality will be
very much respected.)

--
Scott Luebking
phoenixl@netcom.com




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Subject: Lever-driven wheelchairs?
From: rdietz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Randy Dietz)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.


A few years ago I saw a lever-driven wheelchair in the new products
section of a magazine and corresponded with the inventor (in Boston
I think).  He was trying to find a company to manufacture it and
couldn't give me any details on the drive mechanism because the patent
was pending.  A lever-driven wc would have several advantages  over
the standard wc propelled by the wheel rims.  Less grip strength is
needed, less coordination needed to  pinch and release the rim, I
could use my biceps to pull the levers back to propel the wc forward
rather than using my weaker tricep and shoulder muscles, and it would
be easier than moving my arm to catch quad pegs on a wheel rim.  Are
there any companies that build these?  Or plans for building one?  Or
something that uses a similar mechanism that could be adapted to a wc?
Or a homegrown solution?  I currently use an electric wc and would like
the lever-driven model to use for exercise and maybe use it full time
depending on how well it worked..




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Subject: Re: WHEN PLACARDS TRAVEL
From: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

In article <23262@handicap.news>, Bruce.Couper@f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
writes...
>Index Number: 23262
>
>VI>Hey, here is a question for anyone in the know, can I still use my
>  >parking placard when I am out of state.
>
>How about, out of country?  I used my Government of Ontario issued
>placard in Florida last year and was never challenged.

I got a ticket using a Texas State permit in Ohio once.  Upon talking to
the desk sergeant and letting him examine and photocopy my permit, they
were willing to rescind the ticket, and I didn't even need to go to
court.  It turns out that this, although reasonable, was not required.
If I remember correctly, Ohio has reciprocal agreements with Pennsylvania,
Michigan, and Indiana only.  Officially, only placards issued by those
states and Ohio are recognized in Ohio.  Most other states have similar
laws.  Florida does not issue placards and (memory again) does not
recognize placards from any states.

The police who issue the tickets tend to be far more reasonable and
accomodating than the laws require.  I have traveled a great deal, and
use both my Texas permit (which has no expiration date) and my Ohio
permit in other states.  I have not had any other incidents.  (Recent
trips include:  NY, MD, VA, WV, GA, FL, AL, TX, CA, IA, PA, CN, NV,
TN, OK, KS, and others).

Greg
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Subject: Re: Tdd software/ programs
From: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Organization: ARS W3HWN

From Digest #2539

>  From: George.Forster@f104.n268.z1.fidonet.org (George Forster)
>
>  Bill, as far as I know there are no software programs to convert to TTY since
>  that mode needs a 45 baud Modem which the regular Modems will not emulate.

Making a computer talk to a TTY is two-part problem.  The computer
uses the ASCII code and the TTY uses Baudot.  The TTY also uses
45.45 baud, which is standard for TTYs and teleprinters but not for
computers.  Both these things can be taken care of in software.
The real problem comes, as George points out, from the
incompatibility of a TTY/TDD with a standard ASCII modem.

TDD modems are available from a number of sources.  Besides the one
George mentioned, you can get them from Phone-TTY, Krown and
Ultratech.  For a list of model numbers and sources download the
file COMPARE.TTY from area two on the HEX.

If you happen to have an original IBM-PC or a PCjr, or a Radio
Shack Color Computer, you don't need a modem at all.  Software is
available (also on HEX) that will use the computer's cassette port
to generate and receive modem tones.

If you're technically inclined you can modify an old Bell-103 type
(300 baud) ASCII modem to the TTY tones.  The HEX BBS used such a
modem for years to answer TTY calls before commercial products were
available.  It now uses a Phone-TTY model CM-4.

--
Richard Barth, W3HWN **** HEX, the Handicapped Educational Exchange BBS
(301) 593-7033 (TDD and 300 baud)    | Domain: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net
(301) 593-7357 (300-2400 MNP)        | UUCP:   uunet!media!ka3ovk!rbarth



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Subject: Adaptive technology for computers
From: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Organization: ARS W3HWN

> From: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu (Tua'n Sutherland)
>
>   I am interested in finding out if anyone can tell me in
> general where I can find out about adaptive technology for
> computers.  I am interested in special hardware and
> software that enables sight impaired or other physical
> impaired people to use computers.  I welcome anyone's
> comments or information they can give me.  I would like
> to hear personal stories telling me what kind of special
> modifications they may be using.
>

A rather lengthy file called "HEXINF.E" can be read in the INFO area
of the HEX BBS.  It provides a lot of exactly this sort
of information.  The HEX is available on:
                301-593-7033 (TDD and 300 baud ASCII)
                301-593-7357 (300-2400 baud, MNP5)

--
Richard Barth, W3HWN **** HEX, the Handicapped Educational Exchange BBS
(301) 593-7033 (TDD and 300 baud)    | Domain: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net
(301) 593-7357 (300-2400 MNP)        | UUCP:   uunet!media!ka3ovk!rbarth



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