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From: darkwing@cis.umassd.edu (Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.)
Subject: using Emulex MD21 with Adaptec 1522/42
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:02:09 GMT

Hi everyone,

  Does anyone have experience using an Emulex MD21 bridgeboard with an
Adaptec 1522 or 1542 (conrolling a Maxtor 8760E in specific, but all
general usage of the MD21 with Adpatec is also requested).  Experiences
good and bad are accepted.....

Problem is Emulex says that MD21 wont work, MD25 will (and of course the
MD25 is much more expensive).  They say the MD21 will not work becuase
Adaptec does not quite adhere to the SCSI standard.....  Adaptec was
surprised to hear that.......

Adaptec says they have not tested that combination....

So, anyone out there get this to work or not ?

Thanks,

  -- Curt

darkwing@cis.umassd.edu

p.s. What are good prices for MD-21 and 25 and what sources are cheapest ?
p.p.s. What is a good price for a 1542 w/o kit ?


Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: lingy@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Danzig Frique)
Subject: Bustek 742A
Summary: With regards to the Bustek 742A controller for EISA
Keywords: EISA, scsi, controller, bustek, 742a
Reply-To: lingy@rpi.edu
Organization: Somewhere Special
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:35:55 GMT

Hi there,
	 Can anyone give me comments about the Bustek 742A adapter
compared to the Adaptec 1740 adapter? There's more than a hundred dollar
difference in price and I am not sure if it's worth it for me to invest
in it. Also does this card have the 1Gb limitation on the card
such that my unix's scsi driver can't use more than 1Gb of my drive if
i have more than 1Gb? Also could anyone out there kindly provide the
phone number for Bustek? As for Adaptec, the customer service isn't great at
all talking to a machine. Though from what I heard Adaptec cards are nice
Also is there any other EISA SCSI cards that anyone out there can
recommend me? As I am still new to the EISA world and I do not want to
take a deep plunge to find that my Sys V unix can't work with it. 
This will be used for the most part for unix except maybe a small 150 meg
MessyDos partition

Dan

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: c4craig@teal.csn.org (Craig Anderson)
Subject: BusTek contact?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:33:46 GMT


I have inherited a machine with a BusTek SCSI controller
and need to contack BusTek.  Can someone email me
contact information?

Craig H. Anderson
C4 Network, Inc.
518 17th Street, Suite 1400
Denver, CO 80202
    (303) 825-8183
FAX (303) 893-6510
c4craig@csn.org
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: x03@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (A. Stegmeier)
Subject: Re: Problems with Adaptec 1542B on SCO Unix
Organization: University of Heidelberg (Germany)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:08:28 GMT

In article <JOCHEN.92Aug26084202@mrz.sub.org> jochen@mrz.sub.org (Jochen Fahrner) writes:
[...]
>I think adaptec should mention this problem in her installation guide
>and publish a list of "adaptec compatible" mainboards.
>

I don't think that's the right way to go. The taiwanese board manufacturers
tend to modify their boards weekly, therefore a list published by Adaptec
would be always out of date. 
But most of the board manufacturers advertise the compatibility with the
1542 as a sign of good quality.  So there should be no problem in finding
a compatible motherboard by taking a look in the compatibility list of
the board.

Achim Stegmeier                    EARN: X03@DHDURZ1
Unirechenzentrum Heidelberg        E-Mail: x03@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: crubel@cser.encore.com (Curtis Rubel)
Subject: DRDOS's sstor and SCSI drives
Summary: Need help with DRDOs's sstor(disk compressor) and SCSI drives
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:09:28 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Keywords: DRDOS SCSI

ANy body out there have a Superstore or Stacker drive on a SCSI type drive.
I cann't seem to get sstor to run on it.  It seem s to run ok until you 
go to put data back and then it just trashes all the data.

THanks 

Curtis Rubel
@cser.crubel
From: burke@seachg.uucp (Michael Burke)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: 1542B & soundboard conflict
Keywords: soundblaster hang
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:22:31 GMT
Reply-To: burke@seachg.UUCP (Michael Burke)
Organization: Sea Change Corporation, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

In article <1992Aug26.123133.3175@aosg.gsf.dec.com> peterc@aosg.gsf.dec.com writes:
>-- 
>I'm having a problem with a 1542b and a soundblaster pro board. The
>
>Has anyone gotten this combination to work?  

I have not had any problems - SoundBlaster Pro with 1542 and two SCSI
disks. I used all of the standard configuration settings with the Adaptec
driver loaded high (if memory serves)...

-- 
---
Michael Burke

Sea Change Corporation
6695 Millcreek Drive, Unit 8 
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N 5R8
Tel: 416-542-9484  Fax: 416-542-9479
UUCP: ...!uunet!uunet.ca!seachg!burke
From: mkaschke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Martin Kaschke)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Help on hookup of 2 SCSI Drives - MORE info
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: mkaschke@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Martin Kaschke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I forgot to mention, I do not have DOCS, or Software to my FUTURE DOMAIN
SCSI Host adapter.  So, this may be a problem also.  The adapter is
an OLDER 4 FD / SCSI HD 16 bit controller (I do not have the model number
here).
						 Thanks,
							   |\/|artin
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: multi-disk CD-ROM drive
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 00:11:38 EDT

jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:

> Pioneer, Sony, and others sell various versions of multi-disk CD players.  Do
> anyone sell a SCSI CD-ROM multi-disk drive?  I would like one compatible with
> my Pioneer 6 disk CD player, but another version would be ok.  If these are
> available, where and how much?

I've seen one. It's a 6 disk. It's about $800 I think. I can't remember 
where though....

If you do find out, could you post just one detail? I want to know if 
these things keep _all_ 6 CDs mounted, and switch disks on command, or 
do they take a disk offline when they switch?


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The opinions I express are rarely my own, because my own are far too
outragous to post here.

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The Metropolis (614)-846-1911
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Subject: 1-gig drives?
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:00:10
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

Hello World!

I am thinking of getting a new SCSI drive of 1 GB or more for my A3000
system.  I have read about Maxtor's 1.24GB drive which was introduced
this year.  That drive is supposed to be quite fast.

What other alternatives there are?  What are good places for ordering a
hard disk?  Prices?

Any help appreciated.  E-mail or post would be fine.  Thanks in advance.

  Jukka Marin

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From: fleurant@sparc15.hri.com (P.Fleurant)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: SCSI Disk Drive/ with parallel ports
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: fleurant@sparc15.hri.com (P.Fleurant)
Organization: Horizon Research

I'm looking for a SCSI Hard Disk Drive or controller
that has (at least) two ports which can have different scsi-id addresses.

Each port should have access to the same LUN.

Is there such a creature out there? 
This would be used in a fault-tolerant scheme.

Thanx
----------
P.Fleurant
From: award@farside.auspex.com (Andrew Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Which Backup Software to use w/ASPI4DOS
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:54:05 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems

I'm running an Adaptec 1542B, Wangtek 5150 and Cipher QIC-150 drive
DOS5 and a couple scsi hard drives.

I've tried:

	Trantor's TAPEMATE	

		Great user interface, CRAPPY reliability
		often poops out after 50% complete

	Backit4

		mediocre user interface/features
		CRAPPIEST reliability (even with their
		newest genscsi driver
		frequently poops out after 10% complete

	Sytos

		Horrible, DIsgusting, pukeifying user interface
		FANTASTIC RELIABILITY
		completes backups 100% of the time.


Is this all I have to choose from?  Any signs of new versions or
work-arounds on the horizon.

PLEASE HELP

-Andrew
From: del@fnx.uucp (Dag Erik Lindberg)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Backup options for SCSI tape on DOS?
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:32:54 GMT
Organization: I/Ovations

Since I'm using SCSI cartridge tapes on both my Unix boxes, and have
a SCSI disk controller on the DOS box, it seems silly to put one of
those dinky floppy-tape things onto the DOS box when I could pick up
a SCSI tape for about the same price and gain media compatibility with
the Unix machines.

What I don't know is what software is available to support this.  I
called Fifth Generation (Fastback) and they said they only support
the Future Domain controller.

I looked for a FAQ but couldn't find one, can anyone here summarize
my options?

Thanks!

-- 
del AKA Erik Lindberg                             uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del
                          Who is John Galt?
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Seek recommendation on SCSI host adaptor for Adaptec 4000A, 3530
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:42:44 GMT

choe@dirac.phys.washington.edu (In-Jerng Choe) writes:
>I have the following hard disk and tape drive with corresponding SCSI
>adaptors, and wish to use them for my 386 compatible:

>  Priam MFM v185 (70 Meg) + Adaptec ADC 4000A (SCSI to MFM)
>  Wangtek tape drive (40 Meg?) + Adaptec 3530 (SCSI to QIC36)

>Could somebody recommend a SCSI host adaptor for them?
>I have two free slots - 8 bit and 16 bit.
>Many thanks in advance.
*----
If you plan to run an ACB-4000, get a very old SCSI adapter.
I don't think any modern SCSI adapter will communicate with it.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: chris@bclwn.wn.bcl.co.nz (Chris Mackerell)
Subject: "Track following error" errors
Organization: Business Computers Ltd, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:50:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,

I've got a couple of DEC DSP3105 SCSI disks which are both returning
"track following" errors.

One is on a Mips system, one is on a VAX system.

What does "track following error" mean?  Can it be fixed easily?

Cheers,

Chris

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Business Computers Ltd, Box 3236, Wellington 6000, NEW ZEALAND.
From: luhn@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Achim Luhn)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: 8mm video tape (EXABYTE)
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:44:56 GMT
Organization: Siemens A.G of Munich, Germany

Concerning the EXABYTE tapes:
Has anyone experience with the reliability of such 'unusual' operations?
(append after rewind or eject, append before EOD, write to BOT and 
retain data behind etc...)
I accept the fact that some things work on some drives but don't on
other drives, but if it works on my drive, can I be sure that I can
get my data back with the same error probability as if I had written
them in one train?

Horst Kern
SNI Muenchen (Germany)
Tel. (089) 636-42794
c/o luhn@ztivax.zfe.siemens.de
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams)
Subject: Wanted: Recommendations for SCSI Test systems
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:47:03 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good SCSI tester ????

Thanks,
Stuart Adams
sja@world.std.com

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker)
Subject: Re: ---<<< HELP: Adaptect 1542B & Archive 2150S Tape >>>---
Organization: Automated Data Management Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:18:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.123653.11828@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> mbg@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (mitchell.b.germansky) writes:
>
>i installed a new archive viper 2150s tape drive in my pc with an
>adaptec 1542B 2 weeks ago.  all was fine until yesterday.  i did
>successfully acces the tape with dos sytos plus & aspi/tar, and unix.
>
>yesterday, when booting the adaptec bios did not see the unit.
>if i put a tape in the unit, i hear the motor engage, but the led
>does not light up and the tape does not move.  i have 2 scsi disks
>on the bus and they're fine.
>

Has the SCSI id somehow gotten reset?  I've done this with an external 
2150S/1542B combination.  Drove me crazy until I thought to look at the
id select switch on the back.
-- 
Dave Parker
Automated Data Management Services, Pleasant Hill, MO 64080-1331
(816) 987-5167/5218 voice/fax
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: lam@hyper.hyper.com (Edmund C. Lam)
Subject: Re: {?w{DC-226
Organization: HyperCube Inc.
Distribution: all
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:03:42

The DC-226 is based on the NCR chip.  It is not a bus mastering SCSI
controller.  TekRAM, the manufacturer of this board is providing ASPI
drivers for this board.  The board has an on board bios to emulate
WD1003 command set, with a setup/translation much like an ESDI controller.
It is a good performer, capable of handling synchronous mode conversation.

TekRAM will be releasing a cached version of this controller soon.  They have
been producing an intelligent cached IDE controller, the DC-600 for about a
year.

The DC226 should retail for about $180US.  This product is aimed at the
mid-end SCSI market.  It is a full 16-bit adapter unlike the SUMO, or ST01/02.
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From: del@fnx.uucp (Dag Erik Lindberg)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Powering SCSI devices
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: I/Ovations

In article <2A98ED54.64FC@tct.com> jim@tct.com (Jim Kunzman) writes:
>microcomputers have surfaced.  One topic was power consumption.  I
>immediately thought about the problems we have with SCSI devices and
>wondered if it would be possible to shutdown SCSI devices when they
>aren't being used, e.g. scanners, printers, tape backup units, MO
>drives, etc.
>
>Since the SCSI controller is connected directly to the powered device,
>I would suspect that turning these devices off might cause the same
>problem as removing the device from the bus.  Is this correct?  I
>would appreciate receiving empirical evidence about this.  I would
>also be interested in knowing if the SCSI specs address this issue.

You could not, of course, turn them completely off, otherwise you would
have no way to turn them *on* again.  The unit has to have enough
intelligence left to be able to watch the SCSI bus for a power-on
command.  It would seem feasible to have the power-down command put the
unit into a low-power state, however.  For example, on a typical hard
disk, probably 70% of the power is consumed by the spindle motor.  Spin
down the platters and you have a big savings.  Things like tape backup
units draw negligible power when not selected and operating, so no
change needs be made there.

In short, most peripheral devices could respond to a 'power-down'
command by going into a low power consumption state.  Some (like tape
backups, many printers) either already do, or could be made to, consume
very little power when not actually in use, so the command would be
superfluous.

-- 
del AKA Erik Lindberg                             uunet!pilchuck!fnx!del
                          Who is John Galt?
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: ed@maxed.amg.com (Ed Whittemore)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522/ASW410 CDROM driver support for Toshiba CDROM
Organization: American Micro Group, Ft. Lee  NJ
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 09:16:27 GMT

In article <oqpjmog@zuni.esd.sgi.com> jegm@esd.sgi.com writes:
>On a 386 PC running DOS:-
>
>I have been trying to get the CDROM driver to recognise the 3301 toshiba
>CDROM drive, with no luck. The driver doesn't install and says no valid
>device can be found. The drive is happily sitting on the SCSI bus, and I
>can run a VERIFY successfully on it. I can't believe that the 3301 is so
>different from the 3201 which Apdaptec says is supported. I am using the
>latest CDROM drivers V2.1 from the BBS. (Upgrade only). There is a /I
>switch for these drivers which is supposed to turn on ident checking,
>presumably this means that ident checking is disabled by default, but 
>either way it doesn't recognise the Toshiba drive as something it can
>talk to.
>
>Has anyone managed to get this to work. Are CDROM drives that dissimilar,
>that every driver has to be written for every make and model??
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>-- 
>Jim Morris, Email: jegm@esd.sgi.com  Voice: (415) 390-5136

Yes we have the TXM 3301B and E units working. No problem. Suggest you
check your install.

Ed Whittemore   uupsi!maxed!ed   ed@maxed.amg.com
American Micro Group, Inc.   201-944-3293
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American Micro Group, Inc.   201-944-3293
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Parallel SCSI driver
Keywords: driver, parallel
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:18:21 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <520@vercors.frec.bull.fr> simon@kikel.Berkeley.EDU (B.Simon@frec.bull.fr) writes:
>
>I am looking for any book or publication on parallel
>device drivers.
>
Please be a bit more specific.  Is it for one of those useless PC
things, or an expensive Unix box that does parallel processing, or
just something that uses a parallel bus, like the Centronics, or VME,
perhaps?


-- 
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      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
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From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: multi-disk CD-ROM drive
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:27:12 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

Pioneer, Sony, and others sell various versions of multi-disk CD players.  Does
anyone sell a SCSI CD-ROM multi-disk drive?  I would like one compatible with
my Pioneer 6 disk CD player, but another version would be ok.  If these are
available, where and how much?

                                      Thanks,

                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Dead Seagate 296N
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:41:21 CDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Aug30.012625.10641@ultb.isc.rit.edu> adw3345@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.D. Williams) writes:
>
>  Last week my Seagate 296N decided that it wanted to keel over and die.
> I've had the drive for close to 5 years, and used it nearly every day
> then.
>
>  The drive wouldn't spin up, until I turned the platter. I figured the
> lubrication gummed up the heads and was preventing it from spinning.
> (I spun the platter via the ratchet disk on the bottom of the drive,
> not by opening it up.)
>
>  However, when the hard drive spins up, it blinks the drive light
> eight times. My computer reports that it can't find the drive on the
> SCSI port, so I can't re-format it or otherwise salvage it via software
> tools.
>
[stuff deleted]

This is exactly what just happened to my ST1096N.  If anyone knows anything
that can be done to get the drive to work (at least long enough to (hopefully)
recover the data on it), I would be eternally grateful...
(And please, no lectures about the value of regular backups.  I *do* have a
backup, but is most assuredly not current.)
--

=====================================================================
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 robertk@taoami.lerctr.org    the theory.  Next develop a programming
                              style.  Then forget all that and
                              just hack."        -- George Carrette
From: reginald.hirsch@yob.sccsi.com (Reginald Hirsch) 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: RE: WHICH BACKUP SOFTWARE
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: reginald.hirsch@yob.sccsi.com (Reginald Hirsch) 

TO: rjmathia@la.sjf.novell.com (Robert Mathias)
  Regarding Novaback could you give source,cost and list of dealers
thanks
     
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: darkwing@cis.umassd.edu (Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.)
Subject: Quantum Q250 questions (formatting)
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:12:44 GMT

Hello all,

   I have a quantum Q250 40 Meg SCSI (originally an Apple HD40 drive) which
seems to have some problems..... 

  1. Drive does not seem to map out its own bad space...
  2. Occasionally the drive gives seek errors under DOS...

 I am using an Adaptec 1522B host adapter in a 486... It has these probs
even after issuing a low level format from the Adaptec host adapter BIOS..

I have heard that some drives have to have special parameters in the format
command and some need a mode sense or select command or something to that 
effect issued prior to formatting....

Question:  Does anybody know the specific low level formatting procedures for
           this drive ?

Question:  Anyone have simliar problems with this type of drive ?

Thanks in advance,

  -- Curt

darkwing@cis.umassd.edu

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
From: ifarqhar@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Ian Farquhar)
Subject: 5G Exabyte drives with non-Exabyte tapes
Summary: Anyone had any experience doing this?
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:52:08 GMT

We've recently taken delivery of a 5G Exabyte tape, and I was hoping for
some battle stories from anyone else who had used them, particularly
with non-Exatapes.

We've been using the old 2.3G drives for some time, and have had no major 
problems using the standard Sony 8mm tapes (which cost us in the region of 
$12, compared to about $40 for an Exatape.)  However with the 5G drives I 
am somewhat wary of the Sony tapes.  Has anyone got any opinions or had 
any experience using non-Exatapes in the 5G drives?

Thanks.  Email me, and I will post a summary to the net.

--
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Office of Computing Services      Fax   : + 61 2 805-7433
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