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Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 16:10:43 -0500 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Distribution: na

Ya know, I think NOTS is an appropriate acronym.  I kept watching this
episode thinking, "NOT".

>I was impressed.  They actually KILLED someone on Saturday morning
>TV!  Yay!

I wasn't much impressed.  The death came out of nowhere.  We didn't know
much about Morph, and his character wasn't entirely interesting (seemed
like kind of a jerk, actually).  I certainly don't feel sorry for his
passing (what little we saw of it -- if Jean and Xavier hadn't kept
going on about how he had gone, I would've assumed that he wasn't really
dead, but had transformed into one of the bad guys to hide, only to pop
out at an interesting moment).  Basically, it was melodrama, and it
wasn't done very well, either.  Even the comic book does better than
this.
 
>It seems that they left Beast in the hands of that mutant hunter,
>though.  Hmmm, open endings, like those in comic books?

Probably just because they didn't have time to rescue him and Jubilee in
the remaining ten minutes of the episode.  I was thinking to myself,
"Gee, maybe this'll be a three-parter, since Jubilee is still being
held".  Good thing that Sentinel showed up and got sufficiently beat up
by Cyclops *by himself* that it had to run back to its home base.
 
It's too bad.  The *first* episode (before NOTS, even) had decent
animation, if a poor plot and voice acting.  I had hopes that this
series would correct some of the problems.  I think they did, in terms
of characterization and voice acting (I thought Beast was done
particularly well).  Unfortunately, there's a whole list of stuff about
this that I thought was crappy:

- The animation.  Sucked.  Sucked donkeys.
- The plot.  Well, the government agency part wasn't too bad, but I
really hate the way the power levels of the Sentinels kept fluctuating
to meet the demands of the plot.  "Oh, we should kill a character now,
so make the Sentinels unbeatable."  "Oops, it's almost the end of the
episode and the heroes have to win, so make sure that Gambit, Cyclops,
and Storm can destroy multiple Sentinels by themselves."  Sigh.  Also,
when did Jubilee develop powers that could actually affect machinery?  I
was under the impression that her powers were purely the generation of
light (flashy stuff, rather than lasers) -- but it seems like she's
acquired an odd combination of Kitty Pryde's phasing and Dazzler's
powers.
- The angst.  I suppose this is before the X-Men have established
themselves as heroes, but the constant "All mutants suck" and "Why did I
have to be a mutant?" really grated on my nerves.  

The worst part about all of this is that I will probably continue to
watch the show when it premieres in *January*.  Hopefully, the sole
reason that this was such drek was that they were rushing to get it out.
 If they spent half as much time on the episode as they did on the
really cool computer animation in the closing credits, perhaps they
could come up with something decent.

Kevin.
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:12:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uslave.721336352

In <BxFGHz.Bnp@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:

>In article <uslave.721080600@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:
>>In <Bx9AxH.C8I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.) writes:

>>>Ke-yop had some sort of bolo.
>>
>>Cheop.  Yep, it was a bolo.  Or was it a yo-yo?

>It IS Key-op.  Even if my memories wrong, I looked it up. :)

a-HEM.  I didn't say it was pronounced "Che-op", I said it was SPELLED "Cheop",
like the Egyptian Pharoah.  His name was pronounced with a "K" sound too....

.....although there was an "s" at the end.....:)

I don't know where you looked it up, but whoever wrote your reference didn't
stop to think about that name and its origin IMHO.


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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:28:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.043930.28690@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee) writes:
>In article <gf01D7q00VpaRR3KZq@andrew.cmu.edu> "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>Hanna-Barbera's Laff-O-lympics:  Yeah, cheesy, but it was fun to see
 
The part I remember most about Laff-O-Lympics?  Blue Falcon (of Blue Falcon
and Dynomutt) is in a boomerang throwing contest and his boomerang doesn't
come back.  For most of the show he just stands there until finally his
boomerang returns from *behind* him.  Seems ol' BF had thrown it clear around
the world (hey! could happen!).

>>Superfriends: Global Guardians:  The final incarnation of the show,
>>this time adding Cyborg.
>
>Come again?  The latest (and greatest) incarnation of the Justice League of
>America I remember had Firestorm as the new member.

Both Firestorm and Cyborg appeared in SuperFriends: The Legendary Super Powers
Show (1984-1985).  I beleive this was the last incarnation (it could have
been renamed to Global Guardians - this sounds very familiar).

>>Something with the Happy Days characters and a time machine.  Don't
>>ask me how I remember this one.
>
>Ah, the one with "a future chick name o' Cupcake".

Ah "Fonz and the Happy Days Gang" - don't forget the dog Mr. Cool (this was
HB after all).
And while we're naming Gary Marshall creations don't forget the animated 
versions of: Mork and Mindy, and Laverne and Shirely.   
All three of these used most of the actual actors from the show for the voices.

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

- Thanks for the sour persimmons, cousin!
From: rjking@acsu.buffalo.edu (Randall J. King)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Bugs Bunny: The Rabbit of Seville
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:59:32 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Organization: UB

(MCKENZIE ROBERT NEIL) writes:
>
>Does anybody know if there is a "Merrie Melodies" videotape anthology
>that has "The Rabbit of Seville" on it? If so, what is the name, and where
>could I find it?


Not exactly what you want, but the CD Bugs Bunny on Broadway has the audio for
it.  I can still see Elmer sprouting flowers whenever I hear it.  And put it
through a simulated surround sound system. WOW.

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: AEON FLUX (Peter Chung) needs your support!
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:33:12 GMT
Keywords: aeon flux chung

In article <ed.721460307@cwis>, ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
> In an interview soon to be published in SOUND magazine, Peter Chung
> expresses a need for letters of support for AEON FLUX to go to MTV.
> See, MTV seems to be entertaining the idea of making a spinoff series
> from LIQUID TELEVISION...but don't seem to know which avenue to take.
[...]

I don't know.  I'm not sure Mr. Chung can keep up with a half-hour a week.
As it is, the animation in the latest segments is spottier than the previous
season, and the stories even more disjointed.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
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			      jester@ihlpm.att.com
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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Karloff and the Grinch (was Re: X-Mas TV...)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:02:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.201542.8135@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <BxGFz1.70y@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>>
>>My tape has
>>a woman (June Foray according to my books ) do the voice of Cindy-Lou Who, but
>>on the old album I found it is clearly Karloff speaking Cindy-Lou's lines.
>
>Foray, really? Isn't she also  Rocket J. Squirrel, Natasha Fatal, and
>Nell Fenwick?

You're absollutely correct.  Don tell them what they've won... :)
Foray has also been the voice of Miss Prissy (Foghorn Leghorn cartoons (some
of Miss Prissy's roles)), the little girl in "Frosty the Snowman", Raggedy Ann,
a smurf (Jokey),and Tom Slick's girlfriend Marigold plus inumerable others
including parts on the Simpsons and many parts for WB.

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

 - Shhh! Im a'stalkin' a victim!

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From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:04:46 GMT

In article <adamsd.721530568@crash.cts.com> adamsd@crash.cts.com (Adams Douglas) writes:

I wrote:
>>so unless it was reaired later, you have an amazing
>>memory to recall the theme.

Incidently I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. I *really* am impressed with
this display of memory.

>And what about:
>
[ part of theme deleted ]
>Call Tobor! The 8th Man!
>[forget two lines]
>He's the mighty robot
>he's the one to get
>Quick call Tobor
>the mightest robot of them allll!

I admit I don't remember ever *hearing* about this.  But I (in my never-ending
curiousity) looked it up.  The plot line sounds a little familiar to me.
Could this be where the idea of Robo-cop came from? ("a murdered police
detective...transformed into a super robot") My only question is:  The show
sounds (from the tiny description I found) to be fairly serious, so why would
they give the chief of police a name like Chief Fumblethumbs?

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

- Dear Dope - You can't catch us fish without a worm on the hook.
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From: gross@rtsg.mot.com (Don Gross)
Subject: Re: Xmas tv that we all use to love
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:31:45 GMT

mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:


>BTW:
>    "Bumbles bounce!"
>Is this right?  Is the snow monster thing called a Bumble?

It's called the Abominable Snowman, except by Yukon Cornelius,
who calls it a Bumble.

Don Gross      gross@rtsg.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dan@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Anime or Japanimation?
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
	<1992Nov4.084118.16311@news.unomaha.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:42:19 GMT

I use the term "Japanimation" for a couple of reasons.  For one thing,
the term "anime" doesn't really mean Japanese animation, it means any
animation.  Several other posters have mentioned this.  If you look
in Japanese animation magazines they refer to everything from Fantasia
to abstract stuff from Yugoslavia as "anime".  Secondly the term sort
of marks its user as an "old time" Japanese animation fan.  Everyone
used to use the term.  Third, I can't for the life of me figure out
how anyone could possibly be offended by it.  I've also referred to
"Americanimation" and if anyone from a moon of Saturn ever starts
producing animation, I'll happily refer to it as "Titanimation".  

I used to get a little uptight when people pronounced it
JAP-animation, almost as two separate words with the emphasis on the
racist term "JAP" (as in "Jap-a-nazi rat", a popular term for The
Enemy in "classic" comics from the "Golden Age"), but I don't know
anyone who pronounces it that way anymore.  

The term "anime" as anything other than a general term is kind of
strange to me.  It's like using the term "Bande Desinee" for European
comics, when it in fact is simply the French term for all comics.

- Dan

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:16:26 GMT

There might be someone with an episode guide over on rec.arts.anime.
     BoP was originally Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, and was hacked up by 
Sandy Frank for the American market.  It was originally 105 episodes in a 
serialized form, but was reduced to 85 unconnected episodes.
     Mark (Joe Condor originally) - Leader of the team.  Flew the plane that 
transformed into a jet.  Used darts and other misc weapons.
     Jason (I forget) - Hothead of the team.  Drove the stock car/race car, 
used a funky cablegun thing.
     Tiny (forgot again!  damn) - Pilot.  Only non-orphan in the team in 
Gatchaman, but I think he was an orphan in BoP.
     Princess (Jun) - Token Female, drove a motorcycle that became a jetski 
type thing.  In the original, she was Jinpei's guardian.
     Keeyop (Jinpei) - Comic Relief.  In BoP he's retconned as a genetically 
engineered being, who drives the flying tank.  In Gatchaman he's a 10-yr old 
who Jun finds abandoned (as she is herself) and takes in.  He drives a dune 
buggy (he has a special license) that transforms into his tank.
     Zoltar (Berg Katse) - Leader of Spectre.  He's the genetically engineered 
one, folks.  He has IQ 230 and is a hermaphodite, later able to change at will.
Any female agents you see working for Spectre may very well be Berg in female 
form from later episodes.
     Great Spirit (Agent X) - Spiritual head of Spectre. However, in the 
original, he is the alien who runs the whole thing thru intermediaries like 
Berg.  There is no interstellar travel, the whole show takes place ON EARTH, 
but Agent X is able to set up Spectre by FTL communications and give them their
funky tech.  Never appearing but in the production notes are aliens opposing 
Agent X's race who give the good guys the tech to make the Phoenix et al.
     Spectre - Aliens plotting to take over Earth.  In Gatchaman, this is 
Galactor or something cool sounding like that, and it's a crime org run from 
afar.
     7-Zark-7 - Really lame bridging device cooked up to fill in the gaping 
plot holes left by chopping up the original episodes.  Don't even mention 
1-Rover-1.
     Dave Van Domelen, look at Animag II #1 for all this and more
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: X-Mas TV that we all used to love
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:18:59 GMT

In article <BxBFn8.C46@ns1.nodak.edu> skar@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Skar aka Roddy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.211705.13964@emr1.emr.ca> lskinner@emr1.emr.ca (Lauren Skinner) writes:
>>Does anyone know who the singer was in HOW THE GRYNCH STOLE CHRISTMAS?
>>
>>Was it Howard Keel?
>>
>>Inquiring minds wanna know...
>
>I think it was Boris Karloff
>
>-- 
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>skar@plains             Bitnet  | telephone company, will have a brand
>.!uunet!plains!skar     UUCP   | new service that lets you talk to the dead.

Boris did the voice of the Grinch, but the singing was Thurl Ravenscroft.
I had an album from Disney as a kid, that had several songs by him on it,
and the voice is unmistakeable. <It was some album released to tie in
with all the publicity about the, then new, Haunted House ride at Disneyland.
Had "Grim Grinning Ghosts" on it too, which you actually still hear
during the ride>
Pax
					--Judex--


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From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Aladdin Boston area preview
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:11:16 GMT

I heard on televison last night that there will be select preview screenings of
Aladdin in the Boston area Saturday Nov 14

More news later

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.anime
From: chedberg@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Robotech Armistice, _Please_?
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:42:05 GMT

	Folks, I will not voice an opinion on, and am rapidly growing tired of
hearing about, the Robotech Wars. If you wish to discuss this issue, please
find a different forum in which to discuss it, as my mind is made up about it.
We are sinking once more into FAQ arguments, as we once did (and still
occasionally do) over important issues such as pirated tapes, copyrights,
translations, etc. However, there is a point at which one must consider the
other readers on the lists to which one posts. I ask of you that you continue
this age-old discussion (including any subsidiary Macek-in-general spinoffs it
may include) in private, where it belongs. Anime/not Anime is not the subject
of this list (Rec.Arts.Anime), and Japanese anime/ Good or Bad Dub is not the
subject of Rec.Arts.Animation. I apologize if I inconvenience or offend anyone,
but I have heard this argument for three years running. It has never been
settled, and I doubt it ever will be. If you wish to put it to a vote, then
feel free. Otherwise, please argue your opinions elsewhere. I thank you for
hearing me out. Once again, I apologize for any offense, such was not my
intention.

						-Chris Hedberg
			*Any Responses other than a quiet disengagement may be
				sent to: Chedberg@Hamp.hampshire.edu*
From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS: Almost Got 'Im
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:12:35 GMT
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School



Two great episodes in a row.  This one was totally different from "I Am
The Night," of course, which is great--seen back to back the two demonstrate
that BTAS can be great in either a dark-n-moody mode or a more amusing one.
Some lines that broke me up: "We used to date," "I threw a ROCK at 'im!"
"My av--my big birdhouse."

Harley Quinn is really growing on me, to the extent where I almost wish
she would show up in the regular comics.  I'd like to see where she came
from.  I mean, what leads a woman to attach herself to a homicidal maniac?

Poison Ivy's story was the lowpoint of the show--why would Batman keep his
gasmask in the car?

We got to see the origin of the giant penny.  Judging from Harvey's comments,
we might even see it in the Batcave sometime (has it shown up there already?).
What I've always wondered is how he gets it to the cave.  Delivery companies
wouldn't know where to take it, and I've never noticed a Batcemi sitting
around...
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: BTAS: How about a Rogue's Galley???
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:10:26 GMT

abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>	3) I've seen 2 different Scarescrow episodes showing two different
>masks, which ones the real one?

The really crappy one with the goofy round face and no animation but
the teeth moving up and down seems to have won - the other costume
only showed up in one episode.
-- 
Be back in five minutes -- Godot.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Mighty Mouse Saturday
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:35:06 GMT

Given that XTAS is still listed in the TVGuide and MM isn't, I'd guess it was 
an emergency replacement as someone suggested a while back.  So try 11:30 EST.
     Dave Van Domelen, damn it's humid....
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 22:38:06 -0500 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
	<1992Nov5.124716.9266@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>

In article <40430@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:
> So, I just finished moving about 35 miles, and I find to my surprise
> that my new cable company carries the Cartoon Network. Joy!
> 
> So I'm watching it, and there's this amazingly wretched thing called
> "The Galaxy Trio" (which consists of Meteor Man, Vapor Man, and
> Gravity Girl), interspersed with "BirdMan". These things are the
> absolute lowest common denominator. Bad animation, absurd plots,
> horrible voicework ("Yes. But you reckoned without my Thermal
> Ray."), just awful.
> 
> I love it.

Man, I remember all of those.  "Hanna-Barbera's World of
Super-Adventure!"  Other classics that I can vaguely recall:

Space Ghost
The Herculoids
Frankenstein, Jr.

There was also one series that I remember that involved two kids with
two halves of a magic ring; when they were joined together, they
summoned a genie (sort of a precursor to the Wondertwins, I guess). 
Anyone remember what this one was?

Other ones that I can remember that may or may not be HB:

Thundarr the Barbarian (my personal favorite)
The Impossibles (? -- I think this was their name; they were a rock band
with superpowers.  One of them could turn into a spring, one could turn
into liquid, and the other could split into duplicates)
Schmoo (I'm sorry I remember this one)
The Harlem Globetrotters (the one where they were superheroes)

Erg.  Thinking of this fills me with waves of warm, fuzzy nostalgia.

Kevin.
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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 00:48:17 GMT

What's all this about January -- at the end of the episode here, instead of 
playing coming attractions, they accidentally replayed the coming attraction
for Part II -- you know, "See if Jubilee can escape" etc. -- so am I reading
these posts correctly?  The show starts for real in January?

Firestar

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From: louis@ansoft.com
Subject: Battle of the Planets
Reply-To: louis@ansoft.com
Organization: Ansoft Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:32:50 GMT

Hello, I posting this for a friend, but you can send all your
responses to me and I will forward them to him.

He was wondering if anyone has the complete list of shows to
the 'Battle of the Planets' show.  For those of you who can't
remember it, the characters were alot like the team from 
Voltron, 4 males and 1 female.  They had a ship called the Pheonix
which could 'flame-up', and inside the ship was 4 vehicles (one
for each (4 vehicles and the main ship)).  The characters names
were Mark (airplane), ? (race car), Tiny (Main ship), 'Be-bop' (tank?),
and Ariel? ('Yo-yo craft').

Anyway, he was wondering if anyone had some/all of these shows on tape,
and how much the person would want for copies.  

If anyone remembers anything more about this show, that info would be
helpful as well.

thanks
Louis Reash      'It's deja vu all over again' - Unknown
louis@ansoft.com 'The brighter the picture, the darker the negative' 
                   - Batman the Animated Series 'Two-Face'
Disclaimer: My boss doesn't listen to what I say, why should you?