From: linan@argon.berkeley.edu (Mike Linan)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: Experts Speak Out Against Ballistics Research on Cats at LSU
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:22:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1993Jan27.192525.6730@informix.com> proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
>[There may be a few typos in the following - PR]

>   Experts Speak Out Against Ballistics Research on Cats at LSU
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	[many opinions deleted to save space]

>    - Thomas J. Poulton, M.D., F.A.A.P., F.A.C.P., F.C.C.P.
>      Chairman, Department of Anesthesiology
>      St. Francis Hospital and Medical Center
>      Topeka, KS

Dept of Anesthesiology?  How much expertise does Dr. Poulton have in
neurology?  

> "The study under question is superfluous and extraordinarily
>  expensive. It does not justify the effort or animal sacrifice on
>  the basis of the potential yield."

>    - Michael Sukoff,  M.D.,  F.A.C.S.
>      Diplomate, American Board of Neurological Surgeons
>      Santa Ana, CA

Expensive?  Does saving the lives of injured soldiers have to be cost
effective?  At least the opinion is from someone who is at least partially
qualified to comment.

>    - Christopher D. Smith, M.D., F.A.C.E.P.  
>      Emergency Medicine Specialist 
>      Manhattan Beach, CA 

Neurological surgeon?  No, emergency medicine specialist.

> "I feel that (Dr. Carey) would be studying the physiological
>  alterations of one stereotypical form of missile injury which at
>  best, might apply to only a small number of humans, and perhaps
>  cats. "

>    - Roy Selby, M.D.
>      Neurosurgeon
>      Texarkana, TX

If Dr. Carey's numbers are correct, far more than a "small number of
humans" are subject to these types of injuries.  Perhaps Dr. Selby is
ignorant of war conditions.

> "I envision no new body of data evolving from Dr. Carey's pro-
>  posed study which will perceptively improve the current therapeu-
>  tic approach to high velocity missile brain injury. Funding of
>  such research will merely serve to fractionate ongoing non-animal
>  work and dilute the findings of previously reported data -- not
>  to mention senselessly destroying rnore than 1000 cats."

>    - Richard M. Sax, M.D.
>      Fellow, American Academy of Neurology 
>      Fountain Valley, CA

Perhaps Dr. Sax's experience and credentials are not enough for him to
"envision" as well as Dr. Carey.  Perhaps he is of his own opinion.  
Perhaps his opinion is correct.  Perhaps not.

>    - James Riopelle, M.D. 
>      Assoc. Professor, Anestesiology
>      Louisiana State University Medical Center
>      New Orleans, LA

Another Anestesiologist.  Not quite the same and I don't remember the 
research as being the research of Anestesiology.

>    - Donald Doll, M.D.
>      Chief, Hematology, Harry S. Truman Veterans Hospital
>      Columbia, MO

Dr. Doll Neurologist?  I didn't think so.

>    - Jerry A. Whorton, DVM
>      University of New Mexico School of Medicine
>      Albuquerque, NM.

Neurologist?  Oh well.

>    - Carlo Buonomo, M.D.
>      Dept. of Radiology
>      Johns Hopkins University Medical Center

A radiologist?  We'll give his opinion lots of value.

>    - William Harris, M.D.
>      Emergency Medicine Specialist
>      Honolulu, HI

Two doctors of Neurology so far.  Not too good.

>    - Paul Bearmon, M.D.
>      Minneapolis, MN

General Practice?  Family doctor?  Let's ask my family doctor what he
thinks of the LSU research.  How qualified do you think he would be?

>    - Robert Agramonte, DVM
>      Palo Alto, CA

DVM?  What is that?  A vet?  A lot of brain surgery for this guy huh?

> "The conclusions of Carey, et al about respiratory support is as
>  absurd as saying that if an injured soldier could immediately be
>  put on a heart/lung machine his chance of survival would be
>  improved."

>    - Jay Glass, Ph.D. 
>      Neurobiologist
>      Newport Beach, CA

At least he's qualified.  No vision though.  Maybe Carey was wrong.  At
least three Meurologists feel he was.


>    - Joan Poster, DVM
>     Westport, CT 06880

Another vet.  Please.