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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:16:47 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct04.221534.12065@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Couple of differences of opinion.  First, Washington was in trouble with the
>final drive by USC.  USC was driving down the field pretty easily and decided
>to go for it all when the interception came.  Also, remember that FSU almost

  I am glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.  That redshirt QB (Kyle?)
already threw one inteception, and on that final drive, he was doing just
fine handing the ball to the SC running backs- they got two or three 
consecutive 1st downs with more than a minute left to play.  Who make the 
call to pass to the endzone???  Double-coverage nevertheless.

>tied the game, but FSU is the #3 team in the nation, while USC was what...
>#20???  And, they were also without their top quarterback, who left with an 
>injury, if I remember right.  

  That was SC's third string QB- they retired the second-string guy by the
fourth quarter.  The last time this QB threw a ball in a real game he was
in High School.  What a way to enter NCAA football against the #1 team on
top of that.

>I would say that a victory over the #3 ranked team is a pretty worthy 
>testament to things.  A victory over #20 is nice, but doesn't quite say 
>as much, espeially when the team losses it's starting QB.

  And especially if that #20 team is over-ranked :-)

  Doug
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From: paulmc%radian@natinst.com (Paul Conditt)
Subject: RE:  Texas Tech vs. Texas A&M
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:01:39 GMT
Organization: Radian Corporation, Austin, Texas


Chris Barnes writes:
>Just to let you Tech fans (*snicker*) know, the local tv station

Snicker????  I object.  There are a few of us die-hard Red Raider
fans.  In fact, I've heard from both of them today.

>here in Bryan-College Station has been playing (over and over and
>over) a tape by one of the Tech linebackers about how much he
>hates A&M, hates A&M traditions, etc.
 
>Good locker room stuff.

I hope this linebacker puts his hitting where his mouth is.  On a
related note, Spike is one of the great coaching motivators, next to
Jackie Sherrill.  I hear through the Lubrock grapevine that he's gonna
castrate an Aggie right before the game.  :)
 
>Not to mention the fact that this is the game that A&M thinks
>will be the best in-conference competition - at least until late
>Nov; and I doubt the Ags will be looking ahead that far....

You forget that SMU has probably the best team in the country, next to
the Philadelphia Eagles, at least according to their posters :)
I would love it if the Ags were taking Tech lightly, but we all know that's
not gonna happen, especially with 2 weeks to prepare.  At least Tech wasn't
looking past Baylor.  I think Tech probably matches up against A&M as well
or better than any other team in the conference.
 
>IMO, I beleive that this is the game that A&M's offence will finally
>get on track.   A&M by 24 over tech.

Unfortunately, if A&M does find it's offense, I'm afraid you'll be right.
But, if Robert Hall is on track and his receivers are catching the ball and
Bam Morris has a good game, then the opposing team would have to have the
Michigan scoring capability to be able to win by 24.  I predict either a
Tech win (my favorite) or an A&M blowout. 

>......WWWWWOOOOOFFFFF

......WWWWWOOOOOFFFFF - right back at ya!

GOOOOOOOOOO TECH!!!!!!
 
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From: "Michael Chui" <mchui@spinner.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: What everyone who missed the ND-Stanford game wants to know
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:58:30 -0500

In article <1992Oct5.062908.20617@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:
>I wonder
>if he was crying because of the loss, or because he wished he had
>jumped to the NFL last year before anyone realized how overrated he
>was... ;-)

	Not.  Saw the smiley, but just for the record, I think Walsh has
always oozed admiration for Mirer's potential;  he would have loved to have
had the opportunity to mature Mirer's natural talent.  A good quarterbacks
coach will make him an NFL star.  The other alternative is falling into the
Jon Elway untapped potential category.
	And yes, it is a lonely job wearing red, in a sea of green, blue
and gold, in SB, when the first play from scrimmage is a safety by the Irish.
But I couldn't help thinking that in the second half, the ND players had to
contend not only with flashbacks from 1990, but also the intimidation of
that reputed genius on the sidelines, wearing dark sunglasses, and
generally looking like he was in detached command of the entire game.
Especially when the usually successful ND ground attack kept getting stuffed.
But hey, turnabout in the mystique game is fair play too... :-)

Michael Chui
mchui@cs.indiana.edu
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From: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: MNC? How about the SEC?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:49:20 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Sep28.182145.18590@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) writes:
> Hey guys!
> Everyones scrambling talking about Wash. or FSU or Miami as MNC,  but what about
> some of the other contenders..... Notably UT or Bama.  Either of these teams
> could end up unbeaten at the end of the year.  Is there no hope for these big
> time college powerhouses?!?!?!

	Hmm!  Very interesting.  I think the major reason that not many
expert are predicting these team to fare as well as the Wash. or the FSU's
is as a result of the difficult conference they are in.  SEC is traditionally
very strong, and upsets occur too often.  Just look what happened to 
Florida.

	Of course, we'll see by the end of the season.

- C. H. Yang
> 
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> Thoughts expressed here are my own and not representative of NCR
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From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Re: Tennessee Vols Swamp the lizards
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:01:47 GMT

applcore@utkvx2.utk.edu (Core, Andrew) writes:


>Thus Florida's only two SEC losses under Steve Spurrier have been to UT.

I guess you can add Mississippi State to that list now.

Jennifer
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: who FSU has never lost to/beaten
Date: 3 Oct 92 06:07:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


In my opinion, there are two reasons that the pollsters are voting ND
below Michigan:  the game was in South Bend, so Notre Dame had home
field advantage, and didn't win; and the widely perceived "playing for
the tie" syndrome.  The second point aside, I believe the first point
is sufficient to rate ND below Michigan.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                    ect. is meaningless; etc. == et cetera

                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Keywords: ND can't beat FSU!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:55:50 GMT

Kevin Delgado writes:

>Btw, FSU has _never_ lost to ND in the games they have played (3 or 4 I think)
>just some interesting trivia. 

You are 1/3 or 1/4 correct, kevin.  FSU has never lost to ND inthe one game 
they have played.

     - Pat
.
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From: rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 09:25:19 GMT

>>
>>        If these 3 things occur, then UCLA and Washington will be tied for
>>        the PAC-10 championship (they don't play each other).  Since UCLA
>>        has gone longer without going to the Rose Bowl, they get to go
>>        (where they get crushed by Michigan).  Washington exercises the
>>        option to bail out of the coalition if the MNC is involved, and
>>        takes the big bucks to play Penn State, who should be ranked #2
>>        or #3 after beating Miami and Notre Dame.  Of course, this assumes
>>        Washington doesnt pull a Miami and puss out on playing the highest
>>        available team.
>>
>>        Well, whadda ya think?
>
>Penn State has to go to the Blockbuster (I think its the Blockbuster) bowl
>if they win more than 6 games.  The contract is already signed.  End of
>story.
>

Whoops, accidentally saved the article before I was done.  Anyway, I believe
the bowl alliance will force UW to play the next highest ranked team if
UCLA goes to the Rose Bowl.  End of story.




-- 
-Richard
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Date: 2 Oct 1992 15:48:08 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <aelman.718010982@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>>In article <randall.717877452@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>
>>>This is the problem that I have with so-called "humorous"
>>>marching bands.  It is very easy to do a "timely",
>>>"witty" show in front of 50,000 people and cause offense
>>>to a lot of people, especially when you try to deal with
>>>politics.  Frankly, I go to a college football game to
>>>get away from day-to-day conflicts like politics. 
>
>>You know, Randall, after reading your post, it occurred to me that
>>the Stanfurd and U$C bands have at least three things in common:
>
>>1. Both are at schools where money talks
>
>Whatever.

Lets talk about yachts...

>
>>2. Both know that what they do irritates other people
>
>Yeah, but at least we have a group that we're trying to entertain (our
>students).  The USC band's sole purpose appears to be annoying everybody else.
>

The Trojan Marching Band only annoys those that do not cheer for USC.
Stanford urinates on their own field, and exposes themselves to their
own student body.

Everone at USC loves the Band.  The Ohio band (another great band)
partied with us last year, they liked us too (kindered spirits).  The
Notre Dame band gives us punch and cookies and their alumni give us
apples during the game.  Many non-USC alum come for miles just to see
us.  The only ones that hate us are those that can not entertain and
measure up to our great performances.  

>>3. Neither care
>
>This is incorrect -- the USC band LIKES to offend everyone. 

We are good, if that offends you - tough.  We are proud of our past
and enjoy what we do.  Our post-game concert is filled with quality
and spirit for all.  And at every game that I have been at, our post
game concert usually draws numerous people... including many of the
opposing teams fans.

I do have to agree, during the game, we like/love to irritate the
opposing team and fans... I guess that we have done a good job by the
responces I've seen on the net.  But by irritating the other team, we
too become a factor in the game - It's called Spirit!!

>
>>There you have it: Stanfurd's and U$C's bands are as alike as two 
>>peas in a pod.
>
>That'll be a cold day in hell. 
>

On this point I gotta agree.  I like the idea behind the Stanford
Band... but in practice there is no band that disgusts me more.

>Adam Elman
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What everyone who missed the ND-Stanford g
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:41:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 18297@u.washington.edu, tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
> Was Rick Mirer really crying on the sidelines during the 4th quarter?
Yes,  he realized the Heismann was long gone......





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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: brad@meaddata.com (Brad Craig)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Woof-o-rama
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:53:10 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1apl88INNho7@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
|> 
|>   Yes, the inevitable finally happened when Bucky's boys overcame the not- 
|>   so-mighty Buckeyes 20-16 Saturday. And it wasn't a fluke. UW pretty much
|>   controlled the offensive and defensive lines all day. How does 35 carries
|>   for 45 yards sound for the vaunted OSU backfield.

Yes Wisconsin won against the not-so-might Buckeyes. And it wasn't a
fluke. Both teams looked rather poor offensively, the only quarter
that had any action was the 3rd. Unfortunately it wasn't the Buckeyes
involved in the action. I am a Buckeye fan, and I think the offensive
display of the the Buckeyes was pathetic. Wisconsin stuffed the run. I
think the Buckeyes controlled Wisconsin defensively in every quarter
except the 3rd.

I wouldn't be proud of the mistakes that both teams made. This game
looked like it was a scrimmage between the 2nd or 3rd teams. Missed
blocks, players dropping passes, uncalled for penalties, ... what a
great display for Big 10 football on national TV.

After the game I had a flash back to a similar situation. It was my
Junior year at OSU. Picture a rain drenched astro turf at The Shoe.
First night game ever at OSU. Iowa (#2) knocked of by the Buckeyes in
an action packed game. What excitement. Best OSU game I have ever seen
in person. Relate this to Syracuse game; big win. The next week I sit
in The Shoe and watch WU beat the #3 Buckeyes. What a sad day in my
OSU football life. I felt the same way Saturday.

Anyway, nice game Wisconsin. My hats off to Bucky for getting his
team pumped. Last week I had a picture of *my favorite* coach John
Cooper on my white board at work saying "Coach of the Year" after his
impressive win at Syracuse.  This week the caption has changed to
"Motivator of the Year". What will it be next week? Can anyone tell me
what team will show up next week?

I still love my Buckeyes, I just hate the coach!

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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:01:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep28.202508.4945@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <1p_pt+r@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>>
>>>OK, so the 'Canes were caught looking ahead.  It's no surprise since
>>>the FSU/Miami game winner will be front runner for the MNC (no matter how
>>>good Washington may look this week).
>>
>>Yeah.... thats why Washington is ranked #1 and Miami and FSU are #2 and #3????
>
>yeah, but washington won't be playing a top ten team untill rosebowl...

Yes, but what if they do not go to the Rose Bowl?  It would be interesting to
see an undefeated Washington team play an undefeated Fla State team in the
Fiesta Bowl....
Of course, then Ohio State would have to settle on playing UCLA in the Rose
Bowl, but that would be okay.  Hmmmm, how many undefeated teams will 
there be at the end of the season?????

>Njan


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From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Prediction Wrap-Up - Week #4
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep29.113319.24124@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes...
#     Congrats to Jay Boisseau, Randy Peppler, and Tim Pitts, all of whom went 
#undefeated this week (though I'm sure Tim was sweating out that Miami game!) 

Indeed, I was!  I was pacing from the living room to the kitchen and back
while ESPN tried to drag out the result forever (what, did they think people
would turn off the tv if they just told the result?).

#Tim Pitts (Big East)                      6-  0-  0  (1.000)
#                                         21-  3-  1  ( .860)

While I appreciate the thought, my overall isn't that good.  I was 5-1-1
for 9/5, 4-2 for 9/12, 5-1 for 9/19, and 6-0 last week for a total of
20-4-1 (.820).

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From: rszczerb@renoir.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Purdue-Notre Dame prediction
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:19:52 GMT

In article <BvB0Hq.MG0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <Kevin.T.Buttler.1-260992184002@oucfax.cc.nd.edu> Kevin.T.Buttler.1@nd.edu (Kevin Buttler ) writes:
>>
>>I began to wonder why any one would consider hyping Purdue.
>>		a) your team sucks
>>		b) your campus is a dump
>>		c) and your engineering program is overrated (entirely)
>
>	As for (b), it's much improved in recent years.  You should
>	visit again.  Fault Purdue for substance over style...
>
>	As for (c), I've actually heard quite the opposite over the
>	years, as in Purdue's is top-notch and ND's is overrated.  Most
>	of those groups that rate such things agree about this...
>
>	There's nothing worse than a sore winner, and a coach who puts
>	his starting defense back in at the end to preserve a shutout...
>
>-- 

Wow, this is getting ugly ... Purdue and ND both are excellent
schools and both have great engineering programs.  Let's put
this thread to rest.

		- rob



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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Damn the Fishin is Gettin Good!
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:59:03 GMT

Goober wrote:
> It is the Ibis.  That's the first bird to leave before a hurricane and
> the last to return afterwards.  Maybe some of you Miamians can tell us if
> the Ibis has returned yet.

Then kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) wrote:
> Um, first of all, i believe the Ibis is the last to leave before a hurricane
> and the first to come back after it has passed...not the other way around.

I guess when the weather changes, the fish start bitin'.
Or, is that when the freshmen start classes...

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: TROJAN NEWS VOL.9 (USC/UW NOTES)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  2 Oct 1992 19:09 EST  

In article <1992Oct1.234421.9467@u.washington.edu>, baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes...
>  NOTES:  A lot of people on the net have been making mistakes on how to 
>          spell the single and plural of the word Husky, so here it is:
>          - Single:  Husky
>          - Plural:  Huskies
> 
>  Not Huskie, Huskys, or Huskey and Huskee!!
> 
>  Any questions?  :)
> 

Yeah, does the university own the Husky-Boy Burger Stand on PCH by Laguna 
Beach?

R Dendy
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Arizona beats UCLA
Date: 4 Oct 1992 21:11:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

Arizona defeated UCLA in Tucscon, 23-3.  
I guess the Huskies don't have to worry about an undefeated UCLA getting
the trip to Pasadena.  And I think we can probably put to rest the
notion of a Penn State-Washington Blockbuster Bowl for the MNC.

The only teams which really threaten the Huskies chances are Stanford
and Cal, and Washington plays both of those teams at home.

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami mascot   (was: Re: wuck fashington!!!)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:33:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) wrote:
}
}Should it be fried like a Florida Chicken or slow roasted over an giant open 
}flame while the rest of the tribe dances the Ibwas dance?
}
}- goober (also, should you have mashed potatoes or dressing with that?) smith

Eauxkra!  You should have fried eauxkra!

And sweet tea.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"