From: info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #275
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:29:48 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 18 Nov 92       Volume 10 : Issue 275

Today's Topics:

      [*] BBEdit 2.2 Balloons file
      [*] BBEdit 2.2 Manuals
      [*] compressed binhexed video game
      [*] drkwd101.hqx
      [*] Falcon MC Demo
      [*] icons-6-resedit.hqx
      [*] proportions and converts between inches,cent,pica,
      [*] Resubmission3
      [*] think c 504 tcl 112 updater
      !Hellcats over the Pacific is shipping!
      (Q) Posting news
      *VERY* cheap modem
      1000 Miles (Thanks)
      128 MB Optical Drives
      486 on the net (A)
      AfterDark (C)
      Aldus driver for LaserWriter IIg
      apple II GS
      Appletalk with Serial Cable?
      Archie for Gopherspace
      Archie for Gopherspace (additional)
      archiving software (A) (2 msgs)
      Baud rate problems with Laserwriter IIg
      BBEdit 2.2 Release Announcement
      cd player question.....
      Color ImageWriter II Driver (A)
      Color IWII Driver  ( R)
      DAT Drives (response)
      DEC Laser Printer
      DeskWriters - Used Prices?
      DW paper
      fuzzy mac
      Greetings
      IIsi Built in Video
      Laserbridge (Ethernet/Localtalk)
      LaserWriter IIg Changing Zones
      LaserWriter Repair Money Saving Tips
      Let's trade 3D models!
      LocalTalk/EtherTalk (C)
      Looking for MODE32 (A)
      MacPlus Information
      Mac Repairs (SUMMARY)
      Mac SE floppy drive problem / fax modems
      Mapping data (Q)
      Microsoft Word 4.0 double pages (A)
      mode32
      Mode32 Hangout
      NOW 4.01 and KERMIT incompatibility?
      OCR
      Optical 1 GB SCSI drivers for the PC
      PowerBook 180 Supplies??????????
      Printing 2up on Word (A & Q)
      Quadra Overdrive in Extensions Folder
      RAM Testing Programs (Q)
      rebuilding desktop
      Selling older software versions - more comments
      Serial DW --> Appletalk DW
      Tape Drive (Q)
      Terminal emulator suggestions needed.
      Terminal emulator suggestions needed. (a)
      TOPS Card questions
      Trouble installing System 7.1
      Trouble installing System 7.1 (A)
      Upgarde to Appletalk PC software (A)
      Upgrade to AppleTalk PC software (A)
      Using Archie  ( R)
      Wierd Dialog Box Problem
      X version of Timbuktu (Q)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:25:02 -0500
From: siegel@world.std.com (Rich Siegel)
Subject: [*] BBEdit 2.2 Balloons file

The enclosed StuffIt Deluxe archive contains the "BBEdit BBalloons" file
for use with BBEdit 2.2; this file was inadvertently left out of the 2.2
release distribution.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/bbedit-22-balloons.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:58:51 -0500
From: siegel@world.std.com (Rich Siegel)
Subject: [*] BBEdit 2.2 Manuals

The enclosed StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 archive, in BinHex 4.0 format, comprises
the complete set of documentation for BBEdit 2.2, in Microsoft Word 5.0
format.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/bbedit-22-man.hqx; 315K]

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:19:01 -0500
From: hooves@rpi.edu
Subject: [*] compressed binhexed video game

About Burglar:

	Burglar is a very addictive Macintosh video game. You
run around in a world of boards in which you try to collect
gold. You can do just about anything humanly possible and more,
including jumping, digging, and pushing. Some boards require
quick reflexes and others are very mind boggling. In fact, you
can create boards of your own. Unfortunately, it is black and
white only, and is somewhat annoying to use with system 7;
however future improvements are likely. It will work on even the
oldest of Macs.
	Any questions? Call Steve Hoover at (215)543-7307, or
during the 92-93 and 93-94 school years at (518)276-7279. School
email address: hooves@rpi.edu.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/burglar.hqx; 225K]

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:36:05 PST
From: Robert_T._Chancellor.LAX1B@xerox.com
Subject: [*] drkwd101.hqx

Here is the latest release of Darkwood, Version 1.01. This version no longer
requires an FPU be present to run, and supports black & white monitors. I
appologize to those LC owners who downloaded the previous version requiring
and
FPU.

For those who do not know what Darkwood is, it is a roleplaying game that does
not require a great deal of thought to play. You play a lone warrior who wants
more than anything to be respected. You must defeat the creaures in the arena
to earn a spot on the City Guard, and thereby gain fame. You are awarded gold
based on the creature you select to fight, and you can use this gold to
purchase more powerful weapons, armor, and even magic items.

I would appreciate any feedback I can get on this game (bugs or suggestions).
I
have already collected a number of improvements and will be implementing these
in the near future. I also have a more complex game in development for those
who like the gory details.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/darkwood-101.hqx; 476K]

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:29:14 -0800
From: gloomboy@netcom.com (Chris Yaryan)
Subject: [*] Falcon MC Demo

OK, I hope this goes through...
Her it is, the Falcon MC Demo.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/falcon-mc.hqx; 64K]

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:10:15 -0800
From: victor@ucme.Berkeley.EDU (Victor Wang)
Subject: [*] icons-6-resedit.hqx

Hi You'll,
   This is a file that contains 6 icons.
This file is done by ICON Designer.  The 6 icons are: rice ball
(one of my favorite Japanese food), Birdie(from Peanuts), Ranma 1,
Ranma 2, Ranma 3(one of my favorite Japanese comic's character),
and Chun-Li(from Street Fight II).  Unfortunately, it's black and
white. This is free!(of course)
The way this file would work is you open this file
with ResEdit then simply copy it to clipboard and then get infor-
mation from any one of the icon and change it.

If anybody likes it, I really want to hear the voice from them.
Enjoy!  Hope you would like it!!!


Andy Chien     victor@ucme.berkeley.edu

 -------------------cut here----------------------cut here------

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/icons-6-resedit.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:58:02 PST
From: dalbert@neptune.calstatela.edu (David Albert)
Subject: [*] proportions and converts between inches,cent,pica,

['nuf said]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/proportion.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:27:32 GMT
From: huma3@cict.fr (huma3)
Subject: [*] Resubmission3

You might have already noticed how some people like
to talk about wine. They can go on for hours.
Using this stack will give you an idea of a much
 that person knows what he is talking about.
      Moreover, you will also be in a better position
 to do the same if you feel like it, but more importantly,
 you will be able to make the most of your wine.
You will learn how to keep it, how to serve it and
the best part is that you will enjoy drinking it.
      Don't hesitate then to wander about in this stack !!!

[Archived as /info-mac/card/wine.hqx; 158K]

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:22:53 PST
From: backmod (Backup Moderator)
Subject: [*] think c 504 tcl 112 updater

This self-extracting archive contains the THINK C 5.0.4 and TCL 1.1.2
updates.  The update corrects problems with the Quadra, the code
motion optimization, and other problems present in earlier versions.
The TCL update is identical to the one from the 5.0.2 and 5.0.3
updates, so if you are already using 5.0.2 or later, or don't use the
TCL, you can skip this file and download just the file 'THINK C 5.0.4
Update.sea', which contains no TCL update.  If you are currently using
version 5.0 or 5.0.1 and use the TCL, you need this update.

If you have any questions about this update, or about THINK C or THINK
Pascal in general, please send them to Languages Tech Support at:

D0512@Applelink.apple.com

	-phil
----
   Phil Shapiro                                   Software Engineer
   Language Products Group                     Symantec Corporation
		   Internet: phils@cs.brandeis.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/lang/think-c-504-tcl-112-update.hqx; 674k]

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:48:25 -2300
From: cl7841s@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject: !Hellcats over the Pacific is shipping!

The new Missions at Leyette Gulf disk (featuring moving targets, torpedos,
bombs and an updated application) is shipping!  Some of us have been
playing vapor-ware roulette with this one.  I called my fav mail-order
outfit and they said they got 1500 copies today (Wednesday).  Guess that
means I loose the pool - I had December 7th as my date ;-)

Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)>  -  Drake University  -  Des Moines

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:02:55 +0100
From: "Bas Schulte, Spider" <schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl>
Subject: (Q) Posting news

Hi there,

I used to be able to post Usenet News messages to comp.sys.mac.programmer by
sending a
message to:

comp-sys-mac-programmer@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

Now for some reason, it doesn't work anymore! My MAILER-DAEMON tells me
there's no user
called comp-sys-mac-programmer at ucbvax.berkeley.edu.

Is there another way to post messages to cmsp, since normal News doesn't work
for me,

best regards,


Bas A. Schulte

####   Internet: schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl (through ARA and MacTCP)    ####

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:45:47 CST
From: gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Subject: *VERY* cheap modem

The most recent MacWeek (11-16-92) has table listing the latest
crop of fax modems and there is one listed with the following
info:

company:  Perfectdata
	  (805) 581-4000

product:  EasyModem 144MAC

speed:    14,400 data
	  9,600 send-and-receive fax

protocols:  V.32bis, V.42bis, V.42, MNP 4-5

bundled:  QuickLink II fax
software

Price:   $99  (that is not a typo)


This seems *WAY* too good to be true.  Does anyone know or
have any experience with one of these?  It would be THE
CHEAPEST modem in that category anywhere!!!!  Is there a
catch to a modem this cheap and this fast?  I am looking
to go from my current 1200 baud to something faster and
something like this would really do the trick.

Thank you.

Gary L. Gray                *  Engineering Mechanics & Astronautics
gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu  *  University of Wisconsin-Madison

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:02:07 EST
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: 1000 Miles (Thanks)

Thanks very much to everyone who offered to e-mail me a copy of 1000 miles.
Joshua Nelson at Dartmouth is sending me a copy, and when I get it, I'll try
to
upload it to Sumex.  Again, thanks to everyone who responded.

/Matthew
cravitma@student.msu.edu

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:52:42 -0600
From: Neil Eric Mickelson <nem52463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: 128 MB Optical Drives

Hello again -

The following appeared in Issue #274:

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:07 EST
From: ELIOT@cs.umass.EDU
Subject: 128 MB Optical Drives

I've been seeing ads for 128 MB optical removable cartridge drives
recently.   It claims to be reliable, fast and slices and dices too.

I've heard of problems with NeXt machine optical drives.  Are these new
ones really reliable? Any experiences?

Chris Eliot

 ------------
MacUser and Macworld have had reviews in the past few months, (MacUser's was
very recently), with some drives getting fairly good reviews.  I haven't
heard any complaints about the drives at all, as long as you buy from a
reputable manufacturer...

Hope this helps.

Neil Mickelson

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:45:46 EST
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: 486 on the net (A)

On 16 Nov 92, Mac (NVG8105@mvax31.ntou.edu.tw) wrote:

>I've a 486 and a IIci, but only the 486 is connected to Telnet. My
>question is that if it's possible to ftp a file for Mac on a 486? I've
>AccessPC installed in my Mac, so could I ftp a Mac-file on a 486 and
>save it on a DOS disk, and then put it into my Mac .........
>
>I've tried many times, and it didn't work. Am I doing anything wrong?
>Or do I have to buy another EtherNet Card for my IIci?

No, Mack, you don't need an ethernet card for your Mac. You don't even
need AccessPC -- but it's easier than Apple File Exchange.

I'm sure you're doing something wrong, but "it didn't work" isn't very
informative. Reminds me of our Mad Hungarian mechanic who keeps Leslye's
15-year-old TR/7 on the streets. What's wrong with it? Is broke. When
can we expect it back? When is fix. But I digress.

If you're downloading the Mac file from sumex-aim or similar archives,
the file should be a standard MS/DOS text file named WHATEVER.HQX. Pop
its disk into your Mac, and Stuffit will happily decode it (translate
menu, binhex4, decode) into a probably compressed archive file of some
stripe. Other decoders are not as flexible as Stuffit and can choke on
the Standard MS/DOS text format. First bring the .HQX file into an
editor and globally replace the line feeds (CTRL-J) with nothing. You
might also go to the end of file and delete the CTRL-A that indicates
end-of-file to MS/DOS. Then de-binhex it.

Try downloading just a text file, say an index or a readme. You should
be able to open it in an editor and read it directly on the DOS disk.
You may have to change the file type to TEXT or use OPTION-open to get
your editor to load it. You'll see the document as double spaced because
of the line feed that follows every carriage return in a DOS text file.
Once you get that far, you'll have confidence in getting an HQX file
via the 486 box. And you'll know any continuing problem has to do with
the binhex4-decoding part of the operation.

That should be enough for a start. Feel free to holler if you need more
help from any of us.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:14:26 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: AfterDark (C)

I run AfterDark on both my home machine and here at the office. I also beta
test for Berkeley Systems. I don't have any problems that I can attribute
to production versions of AfterDark. This machine, for example, is
generally not restarted during the week, unless I need to reboot because of
something I've installed. AfterDark runs whenever I'm not sitting in front
of it, and all night long.

Just a datapoint.
-----
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:18:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeff Mealiffe, Net Admin" <jmealif@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: Aldus driver for LaserWriter IIg

I am trying to find an Aldus printer driver for the LaserWriter IIg
printer to be used with Aldus PageMaker.  Where can I find this?

Send Replies to: jmealif@eis.calstate.edu
Thanks in advance for your help.

Jeff Mealiffe, Network Administrator  | E-Mail: jmealif@eis.calstate.edu
Lewis Junior High School              | Phone:  (619) 583-3233 x. 238

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:58:38 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: apple II GS

>I've read in the mac digest that you had got an apple II GS. I've tried for
>years to buy a copy of the gs.Os. 5. It is simply impossible to buy it in
>Belgium because apple don't support the II gs anymore since 1987 in Europe.
>Is it possible to find one copy of this os on a FTP server?


Sorry, but I didn't catch your return address!  All I had was ????@????

GSOS 5.0.4 is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.apple.com and if you
look around, you'll find the 6.0 version as well.  I can't use the 6.0
version because it's too big and I don't have a hard disk. Quite frankly,
system 6 makes the GS a really viable computer.  So good, in fact, that I
have decided NOT to sell it, but to network it to my SE/30.  You must
understand that once the GS has the "right stuff" attached, it really fills
a unique niche in the computing world.

Woz wuz right!

Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:06:21 EST
From: alon@cnm1.med.nyu.edu (Alon Mogilner)
Subject: Appletalk with Serial Cable?

Dear Netters:
I'm trying to use appletalk to transfer files from my Mac II to
my Powerbook 160, but I don't have appletalk or phonenet connectors.
I remember that I connected one Mac to a TI laser printer by using
a normal serial cable, and that it was a functioning appletalk network.
So, the questions arises: can the same be done with 2 macs? I do not
see any inherent reason why it should not work, considering it worked
>From a mac to a printer, but I remember someone mentioning somewhere
that these types of connections are not as reliable as using standard
appletalk or phonenet connectors.

I will post a summary of the replies on the net.

Thanks alot.

Alon Mogilner (alon@cnm1.med.nyu.edu) NYU Medical Center, NY

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:37 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Archie for Gopherspace

Veronica, an archie-server for gophers, was just made available to the
gopher community by a team at the University of Nevada. It's been added to
the main gopher server at the University of Minnesota "Other Gopher and
Information Servers" item and in the "All the Gopher servers in the World"
item on gopher.tc.umn.edu.  You can also use it from the msen gopher
(gopher.msen.com) "Lots of interesting things" section.

Veronica stands for "Very Easy Rodent-Oriented Net-wide Index to
Computerized Archives" by the way.

Why should this interest the info-mac audience?  Because both the info-mac
archives and the University of Michigan archives are reachable through
gopher, among many other sites. The beauty of the Veronica search is that
standard gopher descriptions are returned after the search, so if you see a
file you want you just double-click on it to retrieve it--no need to log on
separately to the right archive or capture the search results as with the
usual archie. Couldn't be easier! Check it out.

Information from Mark P. McCahill and Edward Vielmetti. And please, no
Jughead or Betty cracks!

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:41 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Archie for Gopherspace (additional)

Just found out some more info that I thought should be passed on about
Veronica, from the INFO file:

		About the Veronica service


VERONICA:  Very Easy Rodent-Oriented Net-wide Index to Computerized Archives.

Veronica offers a keyword search of most gopher-server menus in the entire
gopher web.  As Archie is to ftp archives, Veronica is to gopherspace.
Unlike Archie, the search results can connect you directly to the data
source.
Imagine an Archie search that lets you select the data, not just the host
sites,
directly from a menu.  Because Veronica is accessed through a gopher client,
it
is easy to use, and gives access to all types of data supported by the gopher
protocol.

The result of a Veronica search is an automatically-generated gopher menu,
customized according to the user's keyword specification.  Items on this
menu may be drawn from many gopher servers.  These are functional gopher
items,
immediately accessible via the gopher client ... just double-click to open
directories, read files, or perform other searches -- across hundreds of
gopher servers.  You need never know which server is actually involved in
filling your request for information.

To try Veronica, point your gopher at:

Name=Veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace)
Type=1
Port=70
Path=1/Veronica
Host=futique.scs.unr.edu


Veronica is an experimental service, developed by Steve Foster and Fred Barrie
at University of Nevada.  As we expect that the load will soon outgrow our
hardware, we will distribute the Veronica service across other sites in
the near future.

Please address comments to:   gophadm@futique.scs.unr.edu

November 17, 1992

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:59:40 -0500
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: archiving software (A)

The discussion of how to archive software in 10-274 ignores the fact that
the uploaders to sumex generally DON'T decide on the archive format. Most
of us just grab the files from America On Line, CompuServe, or whatever--we
just convert them to .hqx and upload them, leaving them in whatever format
they already were compressed.

America On Line's downloading software version 2.0 automatically
decompresses any StuffIt format, including the newer ones, so files that
appear there may be in any StuffIt format. Many of the Info-Mac archive
files originate from that source.

I'd suggest that everyone just get StuffIt Expander from the utilities
section of the Info-Mac archives. It decompresses all StuffIt, Compact Pro,
and AppleLink format files; it's free; and it has a nice drag/drop
interface for System 7 use. Other files are in the archives in
self-extracting format, which causes no one any problems. I have yet to see
a posted file that couldn't be handled by StuffIt Expander.



Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:23:56 -0500
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
Subject: archiving software (A)

And following up my earlier remarks suggesting everyone just use StuffIt
Expander, here's something I just came across, posted yesterday on
comp.sys.mac.comm:

>In article <1992Nov17.195527.28171@netcom.com> Leonard Rosenthol,
>leonardr@netcom.com writes:
>>      Look for a new and improved version of StuffIt Expander (version 3.0)
>>in the next 7-10 days which will solve all of your downloading/expansion
>>needs -
>>including support for BinHex files (Multipart ones too!), and a
>>"Downline-like"
>>feature called "Watch Folders".
>>
>>      StuffIt Expander will continue to be a freely distributable product
>>from Aladdin Systems and will be made available on the standard FTP sites
>>as soon as it is ready.

Sounds good to me!

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:58:41 EST
From: laurel@ai.mit.edu (Laurel Simmons)
Subject: Baud rate problems with Laserwriter IIg

We are having a couple of problems with the baud rates on our new
Laserwriter IIg which the Apple documentation and "our local Apple
dealer" couldn't help us with. Any suggestion would be much
appreciated. Please respond directly to me. If anyone is interested I
will be happy to foward any responses I get.

The first problem is that the printer (from the manual) does not seem
to support 38400-baud, unlike every other Apple LW printer I've seen
over the last 5 years.  It used to be that you could send these
commands:

	%!PS-Adobe
	serverdict begin 0 exitserver
	statusdict begin 25 38400 0 setsccbatch

With this printer, these commands seem to have no effect.  Worse yet,
unlike the previous manual, the new one has no mention of how to setup
this printer on any other computer besides Apple (tm).  The baud
options available (according to the manual) step from 19200-baud to
57600-baud (not supportable by SunOS-4.1.1). Does anyone know how to
run Laserwriter IIg's at 38400?

Second problem: Postscript files spooled to the printer produce an
error message "WARNING: Check spooled PostScript for control
characters" (and sometimes "printer out of sync").  This, even though
the postscript seems to print OK.  In looking at the code for
sun-transcript's "pscomm" filter, it seems that this error is
generated when the process sees control codes sent back from the
printer before the job has finished printing.

Another thing: is it a good idea for a company which does not provide
real technical telephone support to it's users to move towards
minimalist manuals?

Caveat: We think Apple hardware is great. We just want the new stuff
to be at least as functional as the old stuff.

Bruce Walton
Laurel Simmons
MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:53:29 -0500
From: siegel@world.std.com (Rich Siegel)
Subject: BBEdit 2.2 Release Announcement

Contact:
	Rich Siegel
	1 Larkspur Way #4
	Natick, MA 01760
	Internet: siegel@world.std.com

November 18, 1992

NEW VERSION OF BBEDIT SHIPS
--- ------- -- ------ -----

BBEdit 2.2 is now available from an archive site, information
service, or BBS near you! BBEdit 2.2 includes the following new
functionality:

	- Support for the MPW ToolServer scripting back-end
	- Support for the MPW "411" Toolbox programming reference
	- Import and Export of popular word-processor formats via
	  the Claris XTND system
	- Built-in "Compare" for determining differences between files
	- Improved text-manipulation capabilities
	- Support for programmer-defined external code resources
	- Improved User Interface
	- Improved support for MPW Projector
	- Automatic translation of DOS and Unix-format text files
	- Various bug fixes and performance improvements

BBEdit will be available shortly from most popular Internet archive sites,
as well as CompuServe, America On-Line, and various BBSs. It
can also be obtained by writing directly to the author at the address
given above.

BBEdit is available immediately for anonymous FTP from world.std.com;
you can find the BBEdit 2.2 distribution in ~ftp/pub/bbedit.

Full documentation is now included with the distribution package in
machine-readable form. Printed copies can be ordered.

To obtain BBEdit 2.2, download it from your favorite site, or send
an 800K floppy and self-addressed stamped disk mailer to the address
given above. Alternatively, simply send five dollars, and the disk
and mailer will be provided for you.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:33:32 EST
From: "M.HAKKI ERES" <eres%TRBOUN.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: cd player question.....

hi all.

is it possible to play cd's with the macintosh' cd rom drive? i mean is there
any program in the servers?

i've done it with the cd rom driver with our dec system 5500 running under
ultrix 4.2, and its fantastic.

thanks a lot in advance.

m.hakki eres
bogazici university
computer centre
e-mail : eres@trboun.bitnet

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:26:49 -0600
From: spectre@uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Color ImageWriter II Driver (A)

>I'd like to do some colot printing from my Mac, but alas, the print driver
>doesn't seem to support color.

Actually, it *does* support color -- but your program must support color,
too.
I have successfully printed color stuff on a variety of programs -- from
Super-
paint to Excel, from CheapColor to some word processors.

Ian

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:05:04 CST
From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Color IWII Driver  ( R)

>Out of curiosity, I have an Apple IIgs/ImageWriter II combination that
>produces some really good color documents when the ribbon is new and the
>document doesn't use broad expanses of color or dramatically non-primary
>colors.
>
>I'd like to do some colot printing from my Mac, but alas, the print driver
>doesn't seem to support color.  Is there a color driver that works with the
>Mac?
>
>Tom Wilson
>Oak Ridge National Laboratory
><wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov>

I assume you're talking about the basic four-colour ribbon process, right?
My IW II was printing fine in colour from my Plus (until I replaced it
with a DeskWriter last weekend--anybody wanna buy an ImageWriter? ;)).
I don't remember what version of the drivers I was using but I'll check
this evening, and send you a copy if you want (as long as it's not a
violation of something-or-other to do that--you've gotta check these days).
What application are you using? (I was using Canvas.)

Let me know if you want a copy of that driver. Hope this helps.

Pat Ullmann  PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

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Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:59:13 -0500 (EST)
From: George Tempel <tempel@Monmouth-ETDL1.Army.MIL>
Subject: DAT Drives (response)

Jeffrey S. Berman writes:

>I am planning to purchase a DAT drive and have narrowed the choice to
>two possibilities:
>
>APS Compression DAT (Archive mechanism)
>Third Wave DATadrive (Hewlett-Packard 35480A mechanism)

Jeff, here at work we have a ThirdWave DAT (the hp mechanism). Very nice
indeed. Very small footprint, with the power supply inside the metal case
(some
vendors place the power supply in a "brick" to reduce product size). The HP
mechanism supports a hardware compression mode that can theoretically fit 8 GB
onto a DAT tape. The bugger's fast too.

Hope this helps...

"Oh no, not again..."--Douglas Adams

george f tempel
tempel@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil (144.252.1.1)
netromancr@aol.com (AmericaOnline)

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:58:49 -0600
From: Neil Eric Mickelson <nem52463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: DEC Laser Printer

Hello again -

There was some info about this DEC Laser Printer a while back in Info-Mac
(try in the 260's, then the 250's, as far as issue numbers go).  I'm looking
at getting this printer myself; it's a 4 PPM, PostScript Level II printer
with 17 built-in fonts, HP PCL-4 support, capability for simultaneous
connections to PCs and Macs (with job queing), etc.  The specs are in whatever
issue of InfoMac (sorry I don't know the exact one, by the way).  The name
is the DECLaser 1152; the price is $999 after a rebate, which ends about
March 31, 1993, if I remember correctly.  I've got a relative tracking down
more info from his DEC contacts, and I'll post it when I get it.

Hope this helps.

Neil Mickelson

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Date: 18 Nov 92 08:00:56 CST
From: "Dr. Francis J.  Van Wetering"  <FJVANWET@cbafaculty.unomaha.edu>
Subject: DeskWriters - Used Prices?

TSIA: I am looking at the secondary market for picking up a HP
DeskWriter... anyone have any experience in prices for these animals,
and what would be a "good" price range?  My friend just ordered a HP
LaserJet 4 (600 dpi), and will soon part with his DeskWriter.  He
suggested $200... how does that sound to the net?

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Date: 18 Nov 92 18:08:51 GMT
From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Subject: DW paper

In digest <9211170231.AA09979@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>  I was wonder if you have heard of a way to get a DeskWriter to pause after
>each printed page is spit out so that I can flip it and print on the
>backside.

>I'm done. Can you think of a better way, is there some clever software, or

The best way to achieve what you want is to print all the odd pages,
then print all the even pages.  Some programs can do this all by
themselves, though I don't remember which at the moment.  It would
be nice if this was incorporated into the dw driver.

>if not, maybe thats a good idea for a little utility. It probably applies to
>laser printers too (the worst offenders with their virtually useless 'cover
>pages' printed when switched on).

Danger!  Sometimes it can be very bad to print both sides on a
laser printer.  Unlike an inkjet, where the liquid ink just dries,
laser printers us heat to bond dry toner to the paper.  Running
the paper through the laser printer to print the other side
can cause the toner already bonded tothe first side to become
unbonded, possibly screwing up the printer.  Be very careful and
make sure that your laser printer is ok for two-sided printing.

The simplist solution to your problem, being not that you want to
have double sided printouts, but you want to save paper, is to just
print one-sided.  Then, re-use that stack of paper and print on
the other side.  The drawback is that the backs of your pages
have stuff that has nothing to do with the fronts, but nevertheless,
this is by far the easiest way to do this.  In fact, I grab paper from
the bins near the laser printers at school, which has generally only
been printed on one side, and I use the other side in my deskwriter
at home.  I pull out fresh paper only for final printouts of things.
Printouts which are made just for my own use are all on re-used paper.

--David

--
+++ David S. Meyers (dmeyers@math.gatech.edu)  *** PGP key avail.! *** +++

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:19:21 PST
From: Monte B. Olsen <olsenm@ccmail.orst.edu>
Subject: fuzzy mac

I'm using a Sony Trinitron "Super Fine Pitch"
CPD-1302.  It seems to be an Apple monitor since it's the
same color as my Mac IIx and accessories and has an Apple
Computer sticker on the side.  The machine is using a
ColorSpace IIi video board and the control panel shows
the following settings: "multisync,
non-interlaced-67Hz, 640 x 480 pixels.

The problem is the monitor just isn't sharp.  The characters
seem to be out of focus.  Maybe I'm expecting more than this
monitor is capable of.

This problem may have to do with the video card we're using.
The ColorSpace board seems to come in to versions, the
ColorSpace IIi and the ColorSpace FX.  The FX version has a
sharpness adjustment that comes up in the control panel.
The other board doesn't.

Thanks in advance.

John Sulzmann

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:26:42 KST
From: yhchung@rnd.sec.samsung.co.kr (CHUNG YOUNG HO)
Subject: Greetings

Question : My IIci machine makes trouble every morning.
	   Some kind of booting problem.

Answer sent to me :
	1. imporper SCSI chain termination or relatin problem
	2. hard driver problem

Thanks, Jeong-hyun Kim, Chirs Webster and Joanna L. Castillo.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:22 EST
From: Tom Gerstel <TGERSTE1%ITHACA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: IIsi Built in Video

Okay, probably an FAQ from when the IIsi first came out, but:

How much of a speed increase would I see from installing a video
card in my IIsi compared to using built in video as I am now?
Can anyone provide some feedback as to how adding a video
card has helped or hindered?  Thanks for your help.

Tom Gerstel
TGERSTE1@ithaca.edu

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:30:51 GMT
From: sonicsys@netcom.com (Sudhakar Ravi)
Subject: Laserbridge (Ethernet/Localtalk)

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Al Bloom writes:

>> I understand a software product (Apple InterNet Router, from APDA)
>> will magically let me keep access to my localtalked Personal LWNT
>> while ethernet is active. Could one of you experts explain how that
>> works from the perspective of a terrified ancient and decrepit user?
>> Is LaserBridge similar/superior? How does one actually install/use
>> any of this stuff?

>LaserBridge does it with much less memory and CPU overhead than AIR.
>LaserBridge is an Extension. Just drop it in your Extensions folder
>and reboot. It is so simple it doesn't even have a control panel.
>Once it's installed, you can see your Localtalk printer and your
>Ethernet printers simultaneously. However, it does have some
>problems you should beware of:

>First, other people on the net can see your Localtalk printer and
>print to it. This could be an advantage or disadvantage depending on
>your needs. If they are depending on being able to print
>to your Localtalk printer, remember that your Mac must be on or they
>can't see your printer.

The newest version (2.0), has password protection so only authorized
users can see the LocalTalk devices.  And from the beginning, there
was an option to hide the LocalTalk device(s) from all users except
the host mac running LaserBridge.

>Second, you MUST NOT have any Localtalk devices on your Localtalk
>net except printers. If you put a Powerbook on your Localtalk net
>(for example), all hell will break loose (translation: you won't be
>able to print from either Mac, and you won't be able to use the
>Localtalk net to transfer files between them either.) You have to
>reboot your Mac without Laserbridge to use your Localtalk net with
>non-printers on it, and then of course you won't be able to see your
>Ethernet.

We have a product called SuperBridge which does handle macs and printers
on LocalTalk, and gives them access to EtherTalk.  The fact that
you can't connect a PowerBook (or any other mac) to LaserBridge was
a marketing feature to distinguish it from SuperBridge, and not a bug :)

>If you can live with this, Laserbridge works fine.
>-Shannon
>svspire@sandia.gov


Sudhakar Ravi
Sonic Systems
sonicsys@netcom.com

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:45:27 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: LaserWriter IIg Changing Zones

We have a LaserWriter IIg here that keeps changing zones and sometimes
forgets its name. We now know how to change the printer back into its
proper zone with some PostScript code that someone was nice enough to send
me, but we want to prevent this from happening in the future.

First off, we are assuming that the printer is doing this by itself and a
user isn't sending it PostScript code to change the name and zone.

Any ideas.

Thanks.

(email responses preferred, and I will post a summary if there is a request)

Scott Allen Gruby

Macintosh Technical Specialist
Acadmeic Computing Services
Harvey Mudd College

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:26:44 -0500
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: LaserWriter Repair Money Saving Tips

> The technician agreed with my diagnosis and said that since the cause
> of the problem was so obvious it would not be necessary to run the
> standard $75 diagnostic test. Clearly, all that was needed was a new
> roller. How much was that? A mere $424 (including labor) he replied.
> Seemed a bit high for a roller, but the technician explained that
> Apple does not permit the replacement of the roller. It requires that
> the whole fuser assembly be replaced. It is impossible to order just
> a roller from Apple!
>
> I looked through Computer Shopper and noticed an ad from Pre-Owned
> Electronics, Inc. (800-274-5343). The friendly salesperson sold me a
> reconditioned (90 day warranty) fuser assembly for $199 plus $8
> shipping, and promised a $50 refund if I returned the damaged
> assembly from my own LW to them. The reconditioned part was fine, but
> since I'm a klutz I had my usual cheerful Apple technician do the
> swap for his usual cheerful $70 minimum labor charge.

Or, you can save even more money and just replace the upper roller.  It
cost me $20 plus shipping and about 1.5 hours of labor.  I don't remeber
where I ordered the part from, but I think it was from a company called
PartsNow.

Anyway, I learned this trick from Lary Pina's _Dead Mac Scrolls_, a book
that no enterprising and adventurous Mac owner should be without.  It's
alreay paid for itself 20 times over in money I've saved on repair bills
for my home Mac and Macs around the office.  The book even has a list
of parts suppliers in the back.  Check it out.

		       Ken

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:44:16 MEZ
From: Patrick Maun <R5321GAB%AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Let's trade 3D models!

Hello all,
    hopefully my eyecatching subject caught someones wandering eyes. I would
like to trade 3D models with people. I have a fairly large database of stuff
created in SoftImage and Wavefront (both UNIX). I can convert to most formats
but I think either ASCII or DXF would be the best for trading. I need things
like trees, people, cars, and detailed heads and faces.
    I would also like to exchange texture patterns (256x256 or whatever).
Again, most formats are fine. Targa, RLB or TIFF prefered. Hope to hear from
someone soon!
PS The problem I was having with line returns with solved with help of a
kind soul. The Mac writes CR, UNIX writes LF. Just needed to convert them.

Patrick Maun
Hochschule fuer Angewandte Kunst
Vienna, Austria
R5321GAB@AWIUNI11.BITNET

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:35:46 PST
From: managan@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov (Robert A Managan)
Subject: LocalTalk/EtherTalk (C)

All this talk about having a printer on a Mac accessible to other
Mac's on an ethernet perked my interest since that is what I need.
Thanks for the info.

However, another bit of information came to light here that suprised
me after reading the recent mail on this issue. I use the ethernet to
connect to a mainframe using MacTCP. No AppleShare or other LocalTalk
services are used over the ethernet at this time. Thus i am able to
set the MacTcp (and AdminTcp) control panels to ethertalk and at the
same time have the Network control panel set to LocalTalk. I can logon
to the mainframe and be working at the same time I have a document
printing on a LaserWriter. This seems to answer Al Blooms question and
meet his immediate needs.

To the network gurus: What are the limits of the setup I described?

Rob Managan             (managan@llnl.gov)

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Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:41:00 -0500 (EST)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: Looking for MODE32 (A)

  >  I understand that for a MAC IIcx to use > 8MB of RAM you need a
  > 32-bit memory extension called MODE32, which I believe is FREE.
  >          I have not been able to locate a copy of the same at
  > INFO-MAC, so if anyone has a copy and could post it to the net; It
  > would be great. If there is another way of getting it, I would be 'all
  > ears'.

 From ftp.apple.com:

 dts/mac/mode32/apple-mode32.hqx
 dts/mac/mode32/apple-mode32.txt

 For the ftp impaired, send mail to:

 ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com

 with the message:

 Connect ftp.apple.com
 ASCII
 GET dts/mac/mode32/apple-mode32.hqx
 GET dts/mac/mode32/apple-mode32.txt
 QUIT

 Also at Umich: /mac/system.extensions/cdev/mode32.sit.hqx

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Date: Wed, 18 Novermber 1992 09:37:38 -0800
From: John Livesey <livesey@u.washington.edu>
Subject: MacPlus Information

Perhaps some of you can help me out with information on an old system...

In the spirit of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," I'm thinking of acquiring
a
couple of older MacPlus machines which will be used for _basic_ word
processing
and communications (CompuServe access).  [my wife recently "discovered" CI$,
and
has been hogging "Sally" (my PB100) in the evening, preventing me from getting
anything done after 6pm].  Since all she does is basic word processing and
running Navigator, a Plus with older system software might be just the
ticket.
Then, I have an employee who's without a computer at home and wants a basic
system for her kids to be able to type their homework; again, a cheap machine
(<$500) might mean I can give her an unusual Christmas bonus.

What I need to know is: What system (6.0.?) is best to run on a Plus?  (I got
into the Mac sphere with a II at work and haven't really dealt with the
smaller
boxes very much [save the pb100, which I _love_]).  How much memory can I put
in
it and what chip speed works?  Basic text editor or smallish word processor
(FREE/SHARE/PAY-WARE) recommendations would be gratefully appreciated.

I know there are many out there who would say... don't get a crippled dead-end
machine but save your money for something better.  However, at this point it's
this or nothing, and a pair of machines that perform basics for a year or so
is
preferable to nothing.  I'm hoping there are folks out there who still use and
like their Plus and will tell me what they run on it.  I don't need the latest
greatest gizmo with quicktime support.

Thanks for your help and advice.

John
[livesey@u.washington.edu or livesey@max (bitnet)]

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Date: 18 Nov 92 14:40:29 GMT
From: Claude LaPointe  <lapoint@adios.brl.mil>
Subject: Mac Repairs (SUMMARY)

Earlier I posted (abbreviated)


     MacPlus, one of the earlier 1 meg versions, display collapsed to a
     single bright vertical line in middle of screen. Other symptoms:

     1- for some time, there had been intermittent screen jitter, as if
	small groups of and individual scan lines would rapidly oscillate
	laterally a few pixels

     2- for some time, displayed objects were narrower the closer to the
	right edge of the display they appeared

     3- very shortly before failure, several repetitions of single scan
	lines flashing very bright, giving the impression of a spark

     4- powering down, waiting 15-30 minutes or so, and restarting causes
	everything to work, apparently correctly, for about 10-20 minutes
	or so, then failure

I indicated this seemed to be the oft reported video failure and asked for
suggestions and sources of supply.

A responder asked me to assist him, so here is a summary of responses
and of information from earlier posts.

Thanks to all who provided info.

 -------------------------------------------------------------

Books:

Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets
   Larry Pina, Hayden Books, 1990, $32.95
   ISBN 0-672-48452-8

Dead Mac Scrolls
   Larry Pina, Goldstein & Blair, 1992, $32
   ISBN 0-940235-25-0

Chilton's Guide To Macintosh Repair and Maintenance
   Gene Williams, Chilton Book Company, 1986, $13.95
   ISBN 0-8019-7639-1

book out by Sam's, called something like "How to Repair
   and Upgrade Your Mac"

Pina's books are highly acclaimed, and reputed to contain specific
instructions for repairing my problem and many others. Individual
parts are identified. Pina's 1990 book is superseded by the 1992 one.

 -------------------------------------------------------------

There was agreement that my problem is indeed the typical flyback
and/or cold solder joint and/or bad capacitor problem.

It was generally thought that people with soldering experience, attention
to detail, and willingness to be careful (to avoid mechanical/thermal
damage to the board itself, electrical (including static)/thermal damage
to components, and high voltage (DANGER) damage to themselves.

My solution was to order the $55 kit from Soft Solutions. For $12 extra
they include coil L2, but state it's almost never needed - if it is,
they'll supply it later at the same cost as if ordered with the kit. I
chose the kit over just the J1 connector and C1 capacitor because I
wanted maximum assurance I wouldn't have to do a 2nd repair. I avoided
the L2 coil because it probably isn't necessary, and because (I think)
it requires an adjustment, with which I didn't want to fuss. SS provides
2nd day delivery for $6, 72 hour turnaround if they do the repair.
They provide 12 mo warranties either way, but the warranty covers
more stuff if they do the repair.

I well might have had G.E. Computer swap the board had I received that
response sooner.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:24:24 -0800
From: Justin D. Bukowski <jdb@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Mac SE floppy drive problem / fax modems

In article <9211180235.AA20500@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> Eric Stevance writes:
>
> A friend of mine has a problem with his Mac SE. When you boot it
>it kept saying the same message "This drive is unreadable". And with
>the small arrow it shows the floppy drive even if there is nothing
>inside. The Mac asks to eject the floppy or to inicialize and failed
>of course after.
> Then the Mac says the same thing about an external floppy drive
>and there is NO one....!?!
> I tried to boot from a floppy disk, it works until it told me
>the same "stupid messages"

I tried replying through mail but my mailer choked on the address.

I've seen an SE with the same problem here. I believe there's
a loose connector inside the machine that's making it think
there's an external floppy. I haven't checked it out personally
since it's a lab machine that others are responsible for.

I figured out a workaround for it, though. If you can run Disk First
Aid (supplied with Apple's system software) and just cycle through
the possible drives (including the nonexistent one) and then quit,
the problem should go away until the next reboot. You could set
the program as a startup program until you can get the Mac checked out.

To run DFA when the message keeps popping up is tricky. You have to
hit return to dismiss the dialog box and then quickly click to open
folders/start DFA/etc. It's a pain but if you keep clicking and hitting
return you can get to the program and start it.

I'm 99% sure it's a hardware problem and 90% sure it's trivial to fix.

Justin      jdb@ocf.berkeley.edu

P.S.  I'm in the US and I figure est@lodyc.jussieu.fr is an address
in France. Should my mailer have trouble with that as is?  It looks
like a normal Internet address. Maybe it needs to go through a
gateway? E-mail responses only - this isn't really Mac related.

P.P.S.  I posted a few days ago requesting info on fax modems. I've
received several replies and I plan to look deeper and write a report
for the archives. It'll be some time in coming since I have a
qualifying exam in a week. :-) Quick summary: Supra V.32bis modem is the
best for the money < $400. FAXstf is the "least worst" fax software.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:26:10 CST
From: Chris Culy <cculy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Mapping data (Q)

Hi all,

I am interested in taking data associated with geographic areas and plotting
it on a map. I would also like to be able to show how the data changes
over time via some kind of animation. So, for example, I'd like to take
the population figures for a state over a 10 year period, plot them in
different colors on a map of the state, and then watch the changes from
year 1 to year 10.

Is there a package, or combination of packages, that would let me do this?

Thanks in advance.

Chris
cculy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:33-0500
From: P. T. Withington <ptw@RIVERSIDE.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: Microsoft Word 4.0 double pages (A)

    Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:24 EST
    From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>

    >Is there any way to make double pages using MS Word?  I want to print two
    >pages (portrait style) on an 11 x 8.5" page and have Word number the
    >pages (i.e. pages #1 and #2 will appear side-by-side on one sheet of
    >paper).

Dynopage will do this for you, although I think they have a round-off or
fence-post error that is slightly offsetting the odd pages.

BUT, If you are willing to experiment and waste some paper, the right
combinations of "gutter" and printing even/odd pages and re-feeding
paper will let you do this too.  Each printer needs it's own recipe for
flipping/rotating when you re-feed, so you have to work this out for
yourself, but the basic idea is to use a large gutter setting (set it to
1/2 the width of the paper) to make even/odd pages print on left/right
side of the paper, then by printing and refeeding appropriately you can
get what you want.  (If you want 1 copy only of a "booklet" and hence
need to print both sides of the page, you need something like Dynopage
to let you print first the odd pages then then even; if you are planning
on printing your booklet, you want single-sided masters to go to print,
so you don't need the even/odd printing.)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:01:31 -0500
From: nickr@cs.bu.edu (Nicholas Roosevelt)
Subject: mode32

	I beleive mode32 can be had on ftp.apple.com.

Nick Roosevelt (nickr@cs.bu.edu)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:51:46 CST
From: PULLMANN@TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Mode32 Hangout

I remember someone in an earlier number of the digest was looking for
Mode32.  I just came across it at ftp.apple.com, /dts/mac.

Don't remember who you were, but I hope this helps :).

Pat Ullmann  PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:22:17 EST
From: Alberto Cambrosio <CYCO%MUSICA.MCGILL.CA@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: NOW 4.01 and KERMIT incompatibility?

I have upgraded from Now Utilities 4.0 to 4.01. I have
installed Kermit 99(185) in a pull-down Now menu:
everytime I try to launch it from there, my Mac (IIci,
System 7.0 with tune-up 1.11) freezes. I called Now and
they said to remove the various Now preference files and
to restart. It worked for about 1 hour, and then the
freezing behavior started again. Is there an incompatibility
between NU 4.01 and Kermit? I had no problems with NU
4.0: problems only appeared with 4.01. Also, since I have
upgraded to 4.01 shut-down has become erratic:
sometimes it works, sometimes the white menu bar turns
black and the shut-down procedure is interrupted. Again,
problems only appeared with 4.01. Any hint?
Thanks,
Alberto Cambrosio
CYCO@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:07 CST
From: <SWAECHTER%UTMEM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: OCR

What would you recommend as the best optical-character recognition program for
scanning text with an Apple OneScanner?  Please respond directly to me, and
I'll summarize to the net.  Thanks.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
swaechter@utmem2.utmem.edu (internet)

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 10:24:20 EST
From: Christian.Stricker@anu.edu.au
Subject: Optical 1 GB SCSI drivers for the PC

Hello netters

	I am currently a happy user of an optical disc which is a
Reflection Systems Ltd. 1 GB drive (Phase shift drive). The drive was
originally bought for the PC and the driver on the PC supports only ASPI
SCSI interfaces or similar ones. However, to be able to do backups our
business manager bought a WangDAT which is supported by an IN-2000 ALWAYS
SCSI adapter and works very nicely on the Mac and on the PC. However, in
the DOS world there are apparently at least two different SCSI
specifications - and I have not managed to hook up the two devices on the
same PC (no surprise - as usual no problems on the Mac side). Since it
seems to me that the ASPI SCSI interface is somehow a strange standard (you
cannot use a "normal" MacSCSI cable for the drive) and that the business
manager has bought a stack of the IN-2000 ALWAYS SCSI adapter type for all
the PCs in the lab - I want

	1)  to get a new driver for the PC supporting the other standard

or if I fail in finding such a driver

	2) to buy a new drive supported by the IN-2000 ALWAYS SCSI adapter
type.

Further, since there is now quite some money invested in optical 1 GB
cartridges I want to stay with this kind of drive and prefer solution 1
over all.
	Does anybody know who is selling such a driver on the PC side which
is able to support the IN-2000 ALWAYS SCSI type adapter? What is the
approxiamte cost (we are currently budgeting next year)? If I could by a
new driver on the PC (for which there is certainly one around) I would not
have to sell the old and by a new one. However, if I will be forced to do
so, which drive would you suggest?

	Please e-mail directly to me. If there is interest I will summarize
to the people directly. Thank you - and happy Mac'ing

						Christian.
Dr. Christian Stricker, MD.
The John Curtin School of Medical Research
Division of Neuroscience
Australian National University
G.P.O.Box 334
Canberra, A.C.T. 2601
Australia

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:14:31 +0000
From: A.DEmanuele@manchester-computing-centre.ac.uk
Subject: PowerBook 180 Supplies??????????

I ordered a PowerBook 180 on the morning the new machines were announced
(19th October). I was originally told that I should have it in my hands
within a week. I was at the Mac Show in London back in October and found
plenty of the machines on the Apple stand, but when I tried to find out
about supply of the machines I was given blank looks. I was subsequently
informed by my dealer that the latest info they had was for delivery
commencing the week beginning 21st November. I called Apple on Monday this
week (16th November) and was told that a shipment had arrived, but still I
have not received my Powerbook. I spoke to my dealer again yesterday who
now said that Apple had announced that supplies were severely constrained,
it sounds like I will not see it this side of Xmas. I have got to the stage
now where I am considering the purchase of PC Portable and cancelling my
PowerBook order. I am fed up with the lack of information available from
Apple and their lack of interest when I try and get information on
delivery.
Has anyone managed to get hold of a 180 in the UK (and How!)?

			Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:17:07 CST
From: bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Printing 2up on Word (A & Q)

I think this is one of the things the dmm-lw* printer drivers are for --
they allow you to do multiple pages on a single page.  They are in /mac/util.

Is there any way to do this on a Personal Laserwriter LS? I assume the dmm-lw*
drivers are based on the regular laserwriter driver.

Bryan Walls
bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:07:53 AST
From: guidop@conicit.ve (Guido Paccagnella (Hosp.Perez Carreno))
Subject: Quadra Overdrive in Extensions Folder

Has anybody tried loading VSO with InitPicker  ?

It should load Inits (and Inits contained in Cdevs) in any order the
user  wishes furthermore with the Bomb Guard feature it will disable any
conflicting Inits you are trying to load and will let you know about
them.  The critical  circumstance to find out is if InitPicker is one of
those picky Inits itself and therefore we're back at the beginning...

I know that I will be the trying this as soon as I get the Overdrive.


By the way,  my Dad (Computer disbeliever), asked me sarcastically if
next thing I'll get after the "Accelerator" will be the "Power
Steering"...
I replied "Power Brakes" without a wink...

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:50:21 MST
From: svspire@somnet.sandia.gov (Shannon V Spires)
Subject: RAM Testing Programs (Q)

I recently installed some additional RAM (4 meg PAL simms for my
Mac IIx) and I'm getting the chimes of death on startup. If I
hit reset, it boots okay. But the Ram Check program in the
archives indicates there really is an error somewhere. Does
anyone know of any RAM testing programs (commercial, shareware, etc.)
that not only test RAM but also tell you which chip and which SIMM
is bad? The one in the info-mac archive doesn't do this.
Thanks,
Shannon
svspire@sandia.gov

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:25:03 EST
From: Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: rebuilding desktop

>Booting 'Extensions Off' has two benefits for you:
>
>-- It is fast, since it skips the INIT loading process.
>-- It is clean, because nothing extra is running at the time Finder does
>  the work of Rebuilding the Desktop.
>
>This method is the *only* one that gives the correct icons to ALL of the
>files.

True except for one case where doing this caused me problems. If you are using
Autodoubler and rebuild with all extensions off then all doubled files will
end
up with Autodoubler file icons instead of their proper icons.

Paul.
paul@carbon.chem.csiro.au

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:02:44 EST(-0500)
From: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
Subject: Selling older software versions - more comments

One poster (whose name I don't have) wrote:
> If one has a 'licence' to run MacWoop - then surely that should include the
> right to use the latest version

I have never seen a commercial software license which allows you to use all
future versions for the original purchase price.  This includes a wide
variety of both mainframe and microcomputer software.  There are exceptions
in shareware.  If you want more than what you bought, you must pay more.
This is completely standard practice.  The license is *always* for a single
version.

> particularly when traditional upgrade
> costs are 'sold' to the users by saying that they are 'mostly packaging'.

My experience has been that upgrade costs are sold as "mostly new
development".

Alex Hopmann wrote in response:
> The deal made between you and the company is this: They give you a
> discount on the improved version and you give back your license on the
> older version.

This is true of some companies but definitely not of all.  You must read the
software license to see whether the producer allows you to keep and transfer
the previous version of the software.

> ... when a company (at least my company) provides a
> competitive upgrade, the deal is that you must transfer the rights to the
> other product to them.

I've taken up a couple of competitive upgrade offers and have been surprised
to find that this is *not* typical.  I've been asked for verification that I
actually have a license for the other product, but have never been asked to
give up that license.  So making any assumptions, either way, about
competitive upgrades is likely to make you a liar *^).

My rule of thumb on microcomputer software maintenance is this: if you wish
or need to stay reasonably up to date, count on paying half the original
street price, every other year, for an upgrade.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:43:32 CST
From: Rick Russell <wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Subject: Serial DW --> Appletalk DW

Somebody wrote :-)

>Sadly, the freeware MacCompress 3.2, written by Lloyd Chambers
>  (later author of the DiskDoubler and co-author of the AD), in my
>  view superior because of its Unix compatibility, has thus far not
>  achieved any significant spread in Macdom.

Wow! Chambers wrote MacCompress? I tell you, if Chambers would build
the standard UNIX file compressors into DiskDoubler (i.e.  UNIX
'compress' format and maybe 'tar'), I'd buy DiskDoubler like a shot.

As a side note, what are the options to turn a standard serial
DeskWriter into an Appletalk DeskWriter? My wife and I picked up a
serial DW a long time ago, but now we find ourselves with multiple
Macs. Going back to the dealer is out of the question (in a different
city, and besides he didn't know anything about it anyway). So I guess
we're stuck doing it in software.

Can you info-mac folks tell me anything about:

HayesConnect serial port sharing software?
GrapplerShare printer sharing software?
Other software solutions (Portshare? Portshare Pro?) Shareware?
Any other thing you can think of?

# Rick Russell    | TAMU Meteorology   | wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Internet) #

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:08:57 +0000
From: lt10@cornell.edu (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: Tape Drive (Q)

I need space to archive (or just store) my stuff.  I have already run out
my 179 MG hard drive.  I have over 300 disks (double and HD).  I still need
more space.  I have quite a collection of graphic files and GT movies.  A
hard drive is expensive with limited storage space.  Removable is
expandable but expensive too.  So I am thinking about buying a tape drive.
The drawback of such is that I can have to restore to my hard drive in
order to access the content?

What is the difference between the tape drive (150 MG) vs a DAT drive (2
GIG MG) except for the size of the storage?  I think the smaller one is
analog, am I right?  Why is there such a gap between the two sizes?  If I
decide to buy one, the first kind will fit my need.  Has anyone had any
good/bad experience using one?  Any suggestion, comment, or recommendation?

Thank you.

------------------------------

Date: 18 Nov 92 19:14:27 GMT
From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Subject: Terminal emulator suggestions needed.

In digest <9211170231.AA09979@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>I need a good terminal emulator/comm program.  My requirements are (in
>order of priority):

>(1) Enables me to connect to Unix (tm) boxen and run emacs.
>(2) Will let me use > 24 lines.
>(3) Will let me map the Option key to a meta key, or
>(4) Supports keyboard macros that will allow me to simulate (3).

>Zterm 0.85: Won't do (3) or (4).  Also has other annoying problems.

Zterm 0.9 does do (3) or (4).  Also it fixed some vt100 problems
which I never encountered anyway.

>Reply by email please.

Well, if you don't read the newsgroup to which you post a question,
you are quite likely to miss a good answer.

--D

--
+++ David S. Meyers (dmeyers@math.gatech.edu)  *** PGP key avail.! *** +++

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:33:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: Terminal emulator suggestions needed. (a)

Carl> I need a good terminal emulator/comm program. My requirements are
Carl> (in order of priority):
Carl>
Carl> (1) Enables me to connect to Unix (tm) boxen and run emacs. (2)
Carl> Will let me use > 24 lines. (3) Will let me map the Option key to
Carl> a meta key, or (4) Supports keyboard macros that will allow me to
Carl> simulate (3).
Carl>
Carl> Here's what I've tried and why it has failed:
Carl>
Carl> White Knight 11.12: Won't do (2) or (3). Will do (4).
Carl>
Carl> Zterm 0.85: Won't do (3) or (4). Also has other annoying
Carl> problems.

The current version of Zterm (.9) should support all four.
---Rick

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:19:45 UTC+0200
From: Rafael Collantes <rafael@iit.upco.es>
Subject: TOPS Card questions

Hi everyone!
 I heve recently found an old IBM-XT. I has a card that I suspect
is a TOPS LocalTalk for PC Devive. It also has some software on the
Hard Drive, an the Readme file begins like:
< TOPS/DOS Version 2.12     7/12/88
<
< The TOPS/DOS Version 2.12 disks includes the following files:
<
<    ALAP.EXE
<    ELAP503.EXE
<    ELAP523.EXE

and so on....

THE CARD HAS THE FOLLOWING INSCRIPTION:

Copyright (c) 1985 Centram Systems West Inc.

So these are the quesrtions:
Is this product compatible with System 7.1 File Sharing?
Could I Use the PC as SLAVE File Server? (Great satisfaction!)
Could I print on my DeskWriter from the PC?
Does Anyone know an e-mail address of the manufacturer?
Is the whole thing obsolete?
Does anyone know the TOPS 9-pin to LocalTalk Wire connections?

THANKS A LOT
Rafael Collantes
Instituto de Investigacion Tecnologica (SPAIN) rafael@iit.upco.es



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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:20:14 WET
From: ercn81@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
Subject: Trouble installing System 7.1

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>I am having trouble installing System 7.1 over my pre-existing tuned-up
>System 7.01.  When I click on the default installation option for my LC II,
>it reports that it can not over write protected resources.  I have turned
>off all extensions by starting with the shift key down.  I would appreciate
>any help.

You don't install over System 7, you remove it first (having extracted
>From the system folder all the additions you want to keep) by booting
with the disk tools disk (or a.n.other boot disk) and throwing it away.
The install the new system and add back all your bits and pieces or
reinstall those that need it (drivers may need updating). If you do
manage to install over system 7 there are many and various problems you
will meet.
Helen Sargan
Edinburgh University
UK

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:59:49 -0500
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Trouble installing System 7.1 (A)

>I am having trouble installing System 7.1 over my pre-existing tuned-up
>System 7.01.  When I click on the default installation option for my LC II,
>it reports that it can not over write protected resources.

Bill Lipa reported the same problem a few weeks ago. His "protected
resource" turned out to be something installed by Behierarchic.

You can open your System using ResEdit and either remove or unprotect any
protected resource you may find. Or, more simply, just drag a system off
your 7.0.1 Disk Tools disk and replace your System with it (after saving
any of your special fonts/sounds/fkeys). Or just toss your System out and
do the install from scratch. That's a lot faster than hunting for a
protected resource...

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:19:44 EST
From: Rob Smyser <smyser@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Upgarde to Appletalk PC software (A)

Mark Nutter writes:
> Unfortunately, the AppleShare PC
> software that comes with the cards seems to be incompatible with the
> DOS 5.0 that is installed on those machines.  (The installer says,
> "This machine has DOS 5.0.  You need DOS 3.1 or later.  Please install
> the right DOS and re-run this program.")

There was a time when it was important to guarantee that a PC was running
a version of DOS newer than 3.0.  Many programs around that time
started trying to enforce this by looking for a RAM "signature" to see
what DOS was running.  Stupidly, they look to see if the DOS signature
*equals*, say, 3.1 instead of being *at least* 3.1.  So when you upgrade to
5.0, these programs decide you are using an incompatible DOS and stop.

DOS 5.0 provides a fix-it tool called SETVER.EXE.  You load it as an
init -- oops, device driver -- in the Extensions folder -- oops,
CONFIG.SYS. Setver supplies the magic "3.1" phrase to those programs that
require it.  The config.sys line is:

	device=c:\dos\setver.exe

Actually, you will also need to "configure" Setver to understand which
programs need the fake-out.  Setver stores this information inside its
executable and uses it each time it boots.

If the program that is complaining is called FOOMAC.EXE in the FOODIR
folder -- oops, directory -- then you would type:

	c:
	cd \foodir
	setver foomac.exe 3.1

The version number can be whatever you need: "3.1", 3.3", 4.0", etc.
Using setver by itself lists the current program names and the version
of DOS they are tricked into thinking they have.

You might need to do the same thing to the actual application program in
addition to the installer.

Good luck,
   Rob Smyser, Manager, Computer Resource Labs, MIT School of Arch.
   smyser@athena.mit.edu



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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:59:57 -0500
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Upgrade to AppleTalk PC software (A)

Mark Nutter asks about problems with the AppleTalk PC software, no longer
supported by Apple.

Farallon now owns the rights to the AppleTalk PC Software and has an update
available for those with the older software. Just call Farallon for more
info. As of a few months ago, at least, the upgrade cost was $70.00. You
have to prove ownership of the AppleTalk PC software to get the upgrade
disk. At the time I called, there were a few problems involving 486
machines; a beta version of the 486 software patch was sent to me free with
the upgrade.
Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:49:19 CST
From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Using Archie  ( R)

>I know this has been asked about a million times, but I thought I would
>never need it, but now I do.  Could someone tell me where and how to use
>Archie.  Or where the FAQ is that has this question, answered.  Thanks

On the system here, it's incredibly simple.  Just telnet to the archie
server of your choice, i.e.:

telnet.archie.rutgers.edu

The server will come back with some stuff ending with a login prompt. Enter
the word 'archie' (no quotes) there.  Some more stuff will be displayed,
ending with a prompt looking like, if I remember correctly, 'archie>'
(again, no quotes). Here, enter the word 'prog' (no quotes) followed by
the name of the item you're hunting for, i.e.:

prog howtobeamillionaire.cpt.hqx

archie will respond with a lengthy search, throwing numbers up on the
screen periodically to let you know if he (she?) has found anything.
If so, at the end of the search the sites and pathnames will be displayed.

This is just the basic rudiments for use, because I'm a very new user
myself. There are tricks and tips for using archie that other folks would
be more qualified than myself to give you, but this should get you started.

Good luck.

Pat Ullmann  PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:10:58 EST
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: Wierd Dialog Box Problem

I've been having a problem on my PowerBook which is very strange:

When I force quit an application, or any other action that uses a similar
modal
dialog comes up on screen, the centre of the dialog is higher than usual.  As
a
result, the text starts halfway down the dialog and the buttons to click on
fall outside of the dialog's bounding box -- which means I can't click them,
so
I have to restart.

I am using a PB100 with System 7.0.1 (TuneUp 1.1.1 is installed)  My INITS
etc. are:

    Madness-Rage!  (A shareware version of the Insanity! Control Panel)
    Backlight Control
    NowMenus (From the Now Utilities Package)

I suspect that NowMenus is conflicting with something, but before I trash it
(I
have my Apple menu set up in a way that needs it if possible), I would like to
get any thoughts anyone else may have.

/Matthew
cravitma@student.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:46:44 MST
From: svspire@somnet.sandia.gov (Shannon V Spires)
Subject: X version of Timbuktu (Q)

Recently, in some magazine article, I read about a product that
does what Timbuktu does except it's an X client. This would
allow people with Suns running X servers to control your Mac.
Does anybody know the details about this? I'm not sure
if it was a Farallon product or somebody else.
-Shannon
svspire@sandia.gov

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Shreve Systems last week announced a $499 upgrade that installs a Motorola
25-MHz 68030 chip in place of the 140's 16-MHz '030 and adds a 68882
floating-point coprocessor.

To upgrade, PowerBook 140 users must send their laptops to Shreve.  The
company said turnaround time is about 48 hours.  Users must pay shipping
charges.

Shreve Systems is at 1200 Marshall St., Shreveport LA, 71101.
Phone (318) 424-9777 or (800) 227-3971; FAX (318) 424-9771

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