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From: maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: Just Reminiscing...
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:35:37 GMT

It has been ~6 days, almost a week, now since the
victory of the Philippines on the Little League
World Series Championship.

Baseball was never that interesting to me until the Philippines
got to play in the championship.  Congrats (in spirit)!
They did best against the odds (new environment: lots of 
spectators, obsequious individuals, weather, etc.).  No win 
or win, I'm very glad for them.  Special thanks to Filipinos
who went out of their way to be there personally for the support
these kids needed.

And then...
baseball is back to being uninteresting again. ;^)

Masaya siguro ang happening after the game.  I heard the
tsibugan lady cook saying she prepared a lot. ;^) Yum!



About this:

  |In article 5778, stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb) writes:
  | ...
  |"If I can prove this team was illegal and Little League [headquarters]
  |does nothing about it, then I will see them in court," McKittrick said.

I forgot at what point in the game when the announcer was
describing one Pinoy kid.  He mentioned that this kid turned
13, 2 weeks passed the deadline (April 1?)....
With regards to not all of them coming from Zamboanga, 
Philippines:
when they won the nationwide game (they did. right? that's why 
they get to represent the Philippines in the fareast), were 
the regulators that strict over there as to (like registration 
for voters) impose that the players for each province or district 
should have been a resident for at least such 'n such....? 
Otherwise, you are disqualified.
Heck, we are not like divided into states like it is here!
We are all Filipinos from the Philippines!
Duh.
I am not saying Zamboanga should not get all the honors by 
itself.  They deserve anything and everything, however they 
want it.
True, baseball rules are baseball rules.  The Pinoy kids and 
their coach did well on all of it.  The rest is bureaucracy 
and this  is one thing a lot of Filipinos lack.
Applying the US rule to the Philippines...geeeeez.

             
Culture this.
-Marida
 "They say, yelp!yup!yup!  I say, stay."




Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: bautistr@indian.cps.msu.edu (Ronald Bautista)
Subject: TEST - please ignore 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 13:40:18 GMT

Just testing my net access ...
From: calima@cosmo.mcs.anl.gov (Odilio J. Calima)
Subject: Where is everybody?  :-)
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:27:22 GMT

So as the 'Subject line' says:  Where is everybody?  :-)

Suggestions:
1.  Tell us how you spent your labor day weekend.  :-)

2.  Have you ever felt that you have been discriminated
    in your work place or anywhere else because of race?

3.  How good do you think is the education in our country?
    Did your high school prepare you for a college experience here?
    Did your college prepare you for graduate school here?

4.  What do you miss most from home ~ Philippines?

-----
As for myself:

1.  Labor Day weekend:

    Boring! :(  What do you expect?  I'm a college student!
    I just went to the Computer lab and tried to finish a program
    I'm doing.  At home, I just tried to catch up with my
    reading assignments.

2.  Discrimination:

    Fortunately, so far I haven't encountered discrimination up close
    ,like toward me.

3.  Education in the Philippines.

    As some of you know, I went to U.S.T. - univ of Santo Tomas - 
    from kindergarten to freshman college before transferring here.
    As far as U.S.T. is concerned, I would say 'yes'.  U.S.T. is 
    not really known for its brilliant students but it prepared me
    in some other ways - like emotionally, getting those E's!  :-)
    [There's life outside academics, you know.]

4.  What do you miss most?

    I guess it would be my barkada.  Although I do have some friends here.
    It might have something to do with culture or it might just be me.
    I don't really know (and I refused to say anymore.  :-)

    Then again, I don't really miss anything.  I mean I would not change
    anything.  I enjoyed growing up in the Philippines but.  There's the but.
    I'm not one of those who are planning to go back to our 'Mahal na
    Inang Bayan'.

-----

  Comments, suggestions, _FLAMES_ all welcome!  ;-)

  -Odie

-----
Odilio J. Calima, calima@earth.eecs.uic.edu 
"Nasilaw sa kayamanan sa Amerika?"  ;-)
From: aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: More Igorots
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:09:01 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <18qnm5INN186@agate.berkeley.edu>, martyg@ocf.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
|> Did you know Apocalypse Now was filmed in the Philippines?
|> 

Yup...some of it was done in Sierra Lakes (Caliraya), Laguna.  We used
to go water skiing here and I remember seeing the half-submerged plane
that was used as props for the movie.

|> Also, I believed in the last scenes or so, they used Filipino tribesmen
|> (and women) from the North.  Possibly Igorots.

Some of my friends (Manilen~os) were also used as extras.

-- 
        ~
Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com
			Silicon Graphics, Inc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: cs318b35@ibma2.cs.uiuc.edu (CECIL JOSE DELFINADO)
Subject: ignore --- test
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:23:34 GMT

this is a test

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Waking To the Call - Racial Tolerance
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:58:17 GMT


>From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
>Subject: Re: [SOC] PETITION FOR LUYEN NGUYEN
>
> While I am at it and I might as well bring this out.   For
>all  Asians  who  are  planning on living in the US for the
>rest of our life, it is time for all of us to wake  up  and
>band  togather.   Yes, there are "glass ceiling" out there,
>there are discrimination out there and there are  bias  and
>prejudice  out  there.  If we want to gain the respect, the
>opportunity and the right we entitle to, we  have  to  make
>our voice heard.  It took the Blacks and the Hispanics many
>years to gain the attention they deserve and it is time for
>all Asians to mobilize and fight for the freedom we entitle
>to.   It  is  not going to change in a short period of time
>but we have to start somewhere and somewhere is NOW.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Darn.. John is right on target.  If we look back  into
 American  history,  there  are  plenty of trails and traces
 that prove discrimination against people of  color,  Asians
 included.

      The fight and struggle, and the  grinding  process  to
 educate  the  American  society  about  who  we  are,  will
 continue  and  must  exist in every corner of our lives. In
 the  workplace,  in  social  gatherings,  in   sports,   in
 community  affairs,  and  especially  this  year  -- in the
 Republican and Democratic hierarchies, we have to tell  our
 story, our uniqueness, our concerns and anger.

      As diverse as the Asian constituency is, there will be
 a tendency that the advocates for  confrontational  tactics
 to  achieve  racial  equality  will  be met with disdain by
 those who prefer quiet diplomacy, as much as bend-and-yield
 strategy.  It's all healthy, and even better when we really
 both points of view.

      Global  economics  and  politics  now   saturate   all
 discussions  in  the  classrooms and boardrooms.  This will
 help  the  cause  of  those  who  visualize  intra-cultural
 tolerance as a constant  in  the  future  of  the  American
 agenda.   Hope?   Yes,  there is.  What we are doing today,
 regardless of the methods  we  try,  would  hopefully  help
 build  that  vision  of  multicultural  cooperation in this
 country.  We maybe far from it, yet that's the direction we
 should go for.

      I admire those posters who initiate the discussion.  I
 go along with all their noble intentions.

                                              -TEG
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: RE:Archive?
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:55:27 GMT


I did not catch that address!

Please send me email...thanks.


-Marida
 maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com
From: FREE1263@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Snide Remarks by Brent Musburger?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:07:29 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.

In article <18lf7sINNt66@agate.berkeley.edu>
martyg@ocf.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
 
>
>I heard from someone listening to the Little World World Series
>that Brent Musburger made some pretty snide remarks about Filipinos.
>
>I hear that he mentioned something like There are Monkeys without
>tails in Zamboanga.
>
>Has anyone heard about this?
>
>
I heard that one, too; but not during the LLWS live coverage..It
was during the ABC NEWS (Sunday I think) sports coverage (i.e.,
that sunday prior to the LLWS week)...  kung maalala ko, ang
pagkasabi ay parang ganito " ... the boys are not even from
Manila...but from Zamboanga City in the south, where monkeys
have no tails...."The comment was followed by a feature of
boys in Zamboanga diving into the sea from bancas (or vinta?).
It was not also from from Brent M. but from the host of the
the Sunday ABC NEWS sports (yung matanda na balbas-sarado, I
forgot his name; but surely looks like a white-livered monkey)..
****rjmeimban/univ of illinois***
   (usual disclaimer applies)
From: dguerrer@oak.cel.scg.hac.com (Dan Guerrero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: LLWS
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:18:45 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Colorado Engineering Labs

Reprinted here without permission is an article re: the LLWS. Comments
are welcome:

Rocky Mountain News Copyright 1992

LITTLE LEAGUE OFFICIAL SAYS PHILIPPINE TEAM BROKE RULES.

The director of a suburban Los Angeles Little League district said
Thursday he intended to file a complaint alleging the Philippines 
team won the World Series dishonestly.  Bob McKittrick, administrator
of the district that produced the runner-up team representing Long
Beach, Calif., said he intended to prove that not all Philippine 
players were from the geographic area assigned to the Zamboanga City
Little League.  He said he also would pursue reports that some of
the Philippine players were older than 12, the limit for Little
League.
 
--
Dan Guerrero : dguerrer@rigel.hac.com    Hughes Aircraft Co. Denver,CO
==========================================================================
The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 
"social sciences" is: some do, some don't.  -Ernest Rutherford
From: m_adlard@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (M Adlard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Visas. Restrictions?
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:12:44 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Well after a struggle with the British Embassy in Manila, trying to get my
wife's settlement visa for the UK (successful I am happy to say) I was 
wondering if there was any restrictions that anyone knows of.
I would like to take my wife to cyprus but am not sure if her Philippine 
passport and english setlement visa will cause problems. People I have spoken
to are not sure.
I am also wondering if, when we go back to Tacloban city (leyte) to visit our
relitives there, if she will have to pay the tourism tax again before we 
return back to the UK. The person who I spoke to in the Rizzel Park office was
not too sure, it may have just been my very strong west of england accent I 
have confusing the poor man or something like that..

Finally my Wife hopes to fly to england sometime in September this year. But
I have been hearing broken reports that the volcano is playing up again and
may have closed the international/domestic airports in manila.

I also have a friend who comes from Dagupan City, who I have not heard from
for a while now, has this area been effected by the mud slides I have been 
hearing about via this net?

Thanks in advance for your time and help
-< MAT >-
** Go Philippines, from an outsider who loves the place **
-- 
Matthew Adlard     | m_adlard@csd.brispoly.ac.uk

Any remarks made are my own views only.
From: yolly@lcsstr.stgt.sub.org (Yolanda Dizon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: film dangerous life
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:12:32 GMT
Organization: LCS - 7303 Neuhausen / Germany


/-------------------------------------------------------\
| /---------------------------------------------------\ |
| |              **  BRD  **  EUROPE **               | |
| |              ----------------------               | |
| |                                                   | |
| |  EIN GEFAEHRLICHES LEBEN (ORIG. DANGEROUS LIFE)   | |
| |                                                   | |
| |  history film about Marcos/Aquino/life/revol.     | |
| |                                                   | |
| |                                                   | |
| | TELE 5    MO. 14 SEP   23:30   (Part I)           | |
| |                                                   | |
| |           TU. 15 SEP   23:35   (Part II)          | |
| |                                                   | |
| |           WE. 16 SEP   23:45   (Part III)         | |
| |                                                   | |
\ \---------------------------------------------------/ /
|   ()  ()                                     ()  ()   |
\-------------------------------------------------------/

-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yolanda Dizon-Lederer           D-7303 Neuhausen / Fildern             GERMANY
yolly@lcsstr.stgt.sub.org       Voice: (49)-7158-60033
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Luyen Nguyen, Afterthoughts
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:55:47 GMT


      Allow me to intercede in the enlightened discussion on
 Luyen Nguyen.  I am pretty  much  sure  that  the  petition
 drive  is  going through smoothly, even with those explicit
 concerns and pessimism from other schools of thought.

      I have faith in the U.S. criminal justice system,  and
 the  alleged  culprits  of the Nguyen crime will have their
 day in court and possibly given fair and justified verdict.
 That's a constant, ergo a miniscule component of  a  bigger
 issue.

      The bigger issue, being  espoused  by  Chris  and  the
 petitioners, transcends beyond the legal boundaries of this
 country.   Being  white,  being  black, being yellow, being
 brown, being different,  in  the  U.S.A.  projects  unequal
 perceptions  and  social treatments in this society.  Being
 new in this country, and still  nursing  the  stigma  of  a
 foreign  war  in  Vietnam,  which  Mr. Nguyen categorically
 belongs, unfortunately, even poses a sad situation.  It  is
 even  worse when becoming victimized by an impulsive hatred
 and cultural indifference does not trigger serious concerns
 on the part of those who are the vicars and  protectors  of
 society, our law enforcement people and community leaders.

      While suspicions may arise on the honest agenda of the
 petitioners, questions should also be asked  of  those  who
 may  not  readily accept the sincerity of the petition.  So
 we  clarify  our  positions,   by   being   fortright   and
 straightforward.   We articulate and we defend.  And in all
 these presentations and persuasions,  we  must  not  forget
 that   the   higher   issue  is  human  dignity  and  human
 prerogative to a quality and safer life.

      My point, really,  is  that  any  attempt  to  exploit
 racial  issues  must  be  placed  on  an  open  stage to be
 queried.  Equally so, racial hatred in all its  forms  must
 not be left unchecked.

      The petition that was pushed by those  sincere  people
 is  one  great  platform  to keep the awareness of race and
 harmony unto a higher plane.  Support it when we truly feel
 that the Nguyen incident appears to be a national  pattern.
 Question  it  when we see that it may not go any further to
 crystallize cross-cultural consciousness.

      Did Rodney King request, "Can we not get along?"

                                            -TEG
From: dguerrer@oak.cel.scg.hac.com (Dan Guerrero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: LLWS
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:33:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Colorado Engineering Labs


I tried posting this before but it didn't post.  If this is the second
post, I apologize.

Reprinted here without permission is an article re: the LLWS. Comments
are welcome:

Rocky Mountain News Copyright 1992

LITTLE LEAGUE OFFICIAL SAYS PHILIPPINE TEAM BROKE RULES.

The director of a suburban Los Angeles Little League district said
Thursday he intended to file a complaint alleging the Philippines 
team won the World Seires dishonestly.  Bob McKittrick, administrator
of the district that produced the runner-up team representing Long
Beach, Calif., said he intended to prove that not all Philippine 
players were from the geographic area assigned to the Zamboanga City
Little League.  He said he also would pursue reports that some of
the Philippine players were older than 12, the limit for Little
League.
 
--
Dan Guerrero : dguerrer@rigel.hac.com    Hughes Aircraft Co. Denver,CO
==========================================================================
The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 
"social sciences" is: some do, some don't.  -Ernest Rutherford
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: strange last name for a Filipino
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:32:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep4.213215.27455
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Uhhh, well I see now where my confusion (and those of the TV and magazine
news reporters come from now... the subject of their reports were the ethinic
Chinese in the P.I. and how they are prevented for becoming P.I. citizens...

We must all have fallen under the same pitfalls that so many other Americans
fall under...i.e. that we assume, matter-of-fact-ly, that everbody does it
the American way...and of course, they don't.  Under U.S. law, if you're born
in the U.S., your an American period. What these reporters must have seen were
people born, serveral generations deep, in the P.I. unable to become P.I.
citizens, and so labeled it as "being barred from obtaining citizenship" because    
BECAUSE they were members of the ethinic-Chinese minority, without realizing,
apparently, that the issue was more of dual-citizenship status.
From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Snide Remarks by Brent Musburger?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:17:26 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA


In article <1685DD4B9.FREE1263@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> FREE1263@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu 
writes:
>I heard that one, too; but not during the LLWS live coverage..It

 [stuff deleted]


Could you people lighten up.  If the guy you're bashing really meant what
you think he meant, then fine.  But if all you're doing is speculating
then you yourselves have discriminatory tendencies, bordering racism.
I know there are still some anglo-saxons that see themselves as the only
fully evolved monkey, but just because few of them think that doesn't mean
all of them do.  By the way, do you same people praise/acknowledge them when,
and if, they do us right?  We'll see.

George
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Ramos Urges MNLF to Accept Amnesty
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:44:16 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	ZAMBOANGA, Philippines (UPI) -- President Fidel Ramos urged Muslim
separatist guerrillas Saturday to accept his amnesty offer and help
bring an end to one of the country's three insurgencies.
	Ramos' call came one day after a spokesman for the Moro National
Liberation Front rejected the amnesty offer, saying it was a government
ploy to entice the rebels to surrender.
	The president called on Nur Misuari, the Jeddah-based MNLF chairman,
to participate in the peace process or risk being politically isolated.
	``This (amnesty) is a good opportunity. This is the best offer we can
make,'' said Ramos, who visited Zamboanga City, 550 miles south of
Manila, on the island of Mindanao.
	Ramos said a National Unification Commission which he has asked to
draft an amnesty package to left-wing, right-wing and Muslim rebels was
expected to come up with a program for the insurgents soon.
	``I hope he (Misuari) takes advantage of this because he might be
isolated,'' Ramos said during a news conference before he departed for
Manila.
	``It's a shame to accept amnesty,'' MNLF spokesman Ustadj Zain Jali
told reporters in Zamboanga Friday. ``God will not forgive him who
surrenders to his enemy.''
	The Front has fought a bitter war for a separate Muslim state in the
southern Philippines since the early 1970s. Thousands have died in the
rebellion, which has now simmered down.
	Manila also has initiated talks with communist guerrillas fighting
the government for the past 23 years and military rebels responsible for
seven uprisings during former President Corazon Aquino's rule.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ben@netcom.com (benny f. p. sevilla)
Subject: Re: Strange last name for a Filipino
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 02:12:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa


joelim@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Joseph S. Lim) writes:
: HI Everyone, I just found out about this newsgroup. Cool, a newsgroup dedicated
: to Filipinos.  Anyway, check out my last name, Lim.  People keep askin' me why
: I have a Chinese last name. Is it completely Chinese, or does anyone know anyoneelse with this last name.  I think I'm full blooded Filipino.  My mom's maiden
: name is Filipino, so are my Grandparents. I dont know how far back Lim came from.
	I don't find this last name as strange;  In my neigborhood, Lim, Go,
Tan , etc were common names;  my great-great-grandmother herself was pure Chinese
but she married a Filipino, making all of us Filipinos.
Is it completely Chinese?    Yes, the Philippines was a melting pot of people.
My father was Spanish and I'm of mixed nationalities;  For a long time now,
people (including my fellow Filipinos), say you don't look like a Filipino
and that really irritates me.

: 
: : wq
: 
: 
: 
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From: egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Emmanuel Gamboa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Hello/news access and e-mail to Phil
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hello to everyone.  Just wondering if it's possible to send e-mail
to the Philippines.  A friend of mine back home said there was a
machine at his workplace that was part of bitnet.

Anyone here went to Philippine Science High in Diliman?  UP Diliman
(84-88)?  

Noel Gamboa
egamboa@sdcc13.ucsd.edu