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From: Chris.Rowan@f2.n3820.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel11
Subject: Re: your welcome
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:46:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3820/2 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

Hi Deborah,

Thanks for your enthusiastic participation!  GVN might start again in the Spring, but I'm not sure because I have spread myself far too thin this year. If someone would be willing to volunteer their time and energies as Moderator, though . . .

I'm also thinking about putting this project out on the Internet sometime in the not-too-distant future and porting those GVN articles into K12Net.  I need to find out more about lists and listservs before that can happen, though.

Happy New Year!

     Chris


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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel4
Subject: GERMAN EXPERIMENT MESSAGE
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:39:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

SK>alt-132              alt-142    
SK>alt-148              alt-153    
SK>alt-129              alt-154    
SK>alt-225    


Very interesting.. will mention it to our German staff!  Looks fine using Ezycoms Ezyedit on an IBM AT from Australia.

There seems to be no character inversion as the code crossed the equator.

Have a merry christmas!

Roland


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel1
Subject: MATHMAGIC
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 15:46:09 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <18 Dec 92  19:58:36>, Brennan Sheppard (1:255/2) writes:

 BS>        My wife is an elementary teacdher at Boisdale School Cape 
 BS>Breton. She has asked me to contact you for more information on Math 
 BS>Magic.  Linda teaches grades 3,4,&5 in this small rural school.  How 
 BS>can she involve her students.  Thanksinadvance.

You posted this message in Channel 1.  MathMagic is in channel 2.

There should be several files explaining MathMagic and giving the current set  
of problems.  I'll forward them to you in channel 2.

Just send Carol Hooper a message in channel 2 with your wifes school info.
Anyone is welcome to join.
 



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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel1
Subject: I wonder...
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:48:33 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <07 Dec 92  16:08:59>, Bruce Beath (3:770/505.10) writes:

 BB>Could you please advise what this channel is for. I am new to this.
 BB>Alan Bennington, Science Adviser, Otago . Dunedin New Zealand
 BB>
This area channel 1, is designated for posting Grants and Freebees.  Some were  
posted a while back and some stray messages have found their way here. 



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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel1
Subject: re: MATHMAGIC
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 23:42:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Brennan, you are in the wrong channel area for MathMagic.  I'll 
respond on Channel 2.  Thanks for your interest.  Carol Hooper


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From: Tom.Barner@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Barner)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel1
Subject: Grant channel
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:25:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

This channel is reserved for sharing of information regarding grants, awards, contests etc which are for teachers. Please keep to this topic and leave other messages in other areas. Thanks, Tom Barner


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From: Brennan.Sheppard@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Brennan Sheppard)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel1
Subject: MATHMAGIC
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:58:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi all
        My wife is an elementary teacdher at Boisdale School Cape Breton. 
She has asked me to contact you for more information on Math Magic.  Linda 
teaches grades 3,4,&5 in this small rural school.  How can she involve her 
students.  Thanksinadvance.

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From: stdnt152@whscdp.whs.edu (An elephant is only a mouse built to government specs.)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel7
Subject: LAW ENFORCEMENT as a Career!
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:44:11 CST
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

Hi!


Are you interested in  LAW ENFORCEMENT (and related areas)
as a career?

If you answered yes, you may enjoy this newsgroup.

It is for students who are interested in a career in law enforcement.

We can discuss what you need, how to get in, and anything.

Hopefully (if your out there) - real police officers
and others can offer the advice they think would be helpful.

If you are already in the area of law enforcement, please post, with any
thing interesting you would like to add!


Thanks in advance!


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From: stdnt152@whscdp.whs.edu (An elephant is only a mouse built to government specs.)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel6
Subject: HELPLINE for 9-12 students
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:41:07 CST
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

Hello out there in computer land!


Channel 6 will no be called HELPLINE!

This group is mainly for people in 9th through 12th grade.
It is for anyone, however, if you need help with any topic in your
life. If you have a problem with a boyfriend or girlfriend, a
fight with your parents, whatever... come let you problems out with
us, people who care. Anyone who has ideas on how to help, can reply
to you.

Also, we hope to get a few professionals to help out.

Feel free to post with any problem, large or small. This is available
immediatly. Please try to include the basis of your problem in the subject
line! Thanks!

_

IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL (doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist) and wouldn't
mind helping counsel, or give ideas, etc. - PLEASE reply to me in
EMAIL, or post, and I would like to arrange something with you. Otherwise,
feel free to reply to people, if you think you can help!

Thanks everyone, enjoy and finally...


TAKE CARE!


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From: Bill.Kerr@f804.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Bill Kerr)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: ARE YOU INTERESTED ???
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 20:33:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:800/804 - Oracle PC-Network, Flinders Park Sth Aust Austra

Ian:
 > IH>I am interested in setting up a channel to allow teachers and
 > IH>sysops to discuss ways of intergrating K12 and other types of
 > IH>electronic mail into classrooms. The channel could also be used
 > IH>by sysops to discuss the technicalities of setting up a
 > IH>BBS/Point system in schools.

Roland:
 > Hi, we are running a very successfull Mail Point at our school. Our 
 > 11 Novell Networked AT computers can now choose E-mail by logging in 
 > as user POINT. The same as dialing in from home by modem... 
 > 
 > Love to chat with anybody about any problems that they have to 
 > consider or concerns that they might have.

Thanks for starting this Ian, I am interested.

Hi Roland,
I have had some discussions with your colleague Paul Chandler already. I am very interested in the idea of making comms as accessible to students as word processing by networking and using the POINT idea as you have done. 

I will be teaching computing next year at Paralowie R-12 in South Oz (new assignment for me) and I have just found out that they have a Novell network setup there but having some difficulties with it. So I should be able to do something useful there with the help of K12.*

My question is a rather general one. I have had no experience in running a Novell network but a *lot* of people say:
 "(ibm) networks are not easy"

Is that true? Why is it that they are not easy? What are the main sorts of things that go wrong with them? What is the best way to learn how to run them without muckups etc. etc.??

Hope this is not too general but it would help prepare me for 1993 and may be of interest to others as well.

 Bill


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From: Paul.Chandler@f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Paul Chandler)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: Are you interested ???
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 08:36:38 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

IH>I am interested in setting up a channel to allow teachers and
IH>sysops to discuss ways of intergrating K12 and other types of
IH>electronic mail into classrooms. The channel could also be used
IH>by sysops to discuss the technicalities of setting up a
IH>BBS/Point system in schools.

G'day Ian.

What a good idea.  We have quite a bit of experience and some ideas hear in Australia, and I'd be interested in participating.

It's summer holidays here ... until the end of January, so that might make things difficult.  When were you hoping the channel would be operating? 

Regards,
Paul


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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: Are you interested ???
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:03:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

IH>I am interested in setting up a channel to allow teachers and
IH>sysops to discuss ways of intergrating K12 and other types of
IH>electronic mail into classrooms. The channel could also be used
IH>by sysops to discuss the technicalities of setting up a
IH>BBS/Point system in schools.

IH>If you think this channel could be of use to you or your school
IH>then please could you reply to me stating such as soon as
IH>possible as I need to prove that such a channel is a viable idea.

IH>Also, if you would like to suggest something of a similar type
IH>or a totally separate idea then please let me know!

Hi, we are running a very successfull Mail Point at our school. Our 11 Novell Networked AT computers can now choose E-mail by logging in as user POINT. The same as dialing in from home by modem... 

Love to chat with anybody about any problems that they have to consider or concerns that they might have.

Roland Gesthuizen
SYSOP 3:633/155.3

cc: Jeff Clement 3:633/155.2


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From: Bill.Bratberg@f2.n297.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Bratberg)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: We are interested
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 11:46:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:297/2 - Black Knight PCBoar, Farmington MO

We are currently developing a class in international studies and we are looking to do what you are suggesting.  Farmington High School is rural school located about 75 miles south of St. Louis MO.  Hope to be of some assistance.

Bill Bratberg
Technology Instructor



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From: stalling@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Stallings)
Subject: FAQ for this group?
Summary: FAQ for this group
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:57:34 GMT

I'm sure this is a FAQ, but is there a FAQ for this group?

We are looking into some kind of Internet simulation/project for a group of
12-14 year old Quaker students as a First Day school project.  We only have
the vaguest notion of what happens on these k12 channels, so we are looking
for a FAQ or another information source.

Any guidance will be gratefully accepted.

Mike Stallings......stalling@u.washington.edu ......CIS 71204,1557
From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: FAQ for this group?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 01:38:22 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

To Michael Stallings.

See the two messages that are posted every week "How to Set up a Project" and  
"Channel Assignments".

Hopefully these will answer your question. 



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From: Ramsey.Imam@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Ramsey Imam)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.projects
Subject: International History Exchange
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:59:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic


                 INTERNATIONAL HISTORY EXCHANGE

(Project proposal with Glen Waverley Secondary College, Vic Australia)

What do we teach our students about the history of other
countries and cultures?  Are we considering the attitudes,
feelings and beliefs of the people of those countries and
cultures when we investigate their histories?

The INTERNATIONAL HISTORY EXCHANGE links students from country to country and culture to culture, giving information to students from an    area they do not have access to from books - real people!

This first hand knowledge acquistion gives students the
opportunity to compare their initial reactions with the attitudes of the people who are part of the culture being studied, then further develop their theories, going on to draw more relevant and accurate conclusions.

This world-wide exchange is available to all.  Any ideas or proposals for areas of study are considered; it only requires a match to be made    for you to be up and running!

               Find out more today about how you can join the INTERNATIONAL HISTORY EXCHANGE.

Ok folks, if you are interested in this idea or you know of somebody who might be, Email your expressions of interest to:
Ramsey Imam at 3:633/155.3
or Ramsey.Imam@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org

Regards from Australia!


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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: GREAT news!
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:06:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Chris.....

18 Dec 92, Chris Rowan writes to ALL:


 CR> I have a question for you:  If you had $7,000.00 with which to purchase
 CR> computer hardware and peripherals, what would you get?  Imagine you
 CR> already have one modem-equipped IBM AT 386 with a dot matrix printer in
 CR> your classroom.  Remember:  You can purchase whatever you want, as long as
 CR> it is HARDWARE.

No sweat!  Another computer, a laser Jet 4 printer, a CD-Rom drive and a network card to link the two together with lantastic.

Merry Christmas .<|8-)=,
                         James.....


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Bits and pieces ...
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:19:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
GG>OK Ok I get the point ... after all I suppose I am fiortunate in having the
GG>Govt pay for my Keylink use (they don't know yet, but Jeff and Geoff will
GG>track it down.....)
Hehehe, I saw Terry Metherell coming, and got out of that side of the
education game in time.  Still, lotsaluck!

GG>Have you heard that Telecom and Nexus are now in agreement for Nexus to be
GG>the (?) main educational email system across Australai i.e. instead of Keyli
GG>into schools telecom will poush/promote Nexus ... which is a much better
GG>option for schools - cheaper and more stuff avai
GG>lable.

No, hadn't heard, but I've seen it used, and yes, it did seem a lot
better.  Ralph is a very good sales rep!

peter

 # SLMR 2.1 # Error opening COLDBEER.CAN - Sysop not loaded



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From: Carol.Rundberg@f110.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Rundberg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: MULTICULTURAL CLASS PROJE
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 19:21:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/110 - Physics Forum, Amherst MA

Dear Diane, I didn't see your original note but the idea of creating a booklet of holiday celebrations  is very nice.  We invited families to send a note about the way their families/culture celebrate a holiday at this time of year and had a great response which we then attached to the weekly newsletter so that all might read their neighbors' experiences.  It was most informative and warm-hearted.  I take no credit - it was someone else's idea but I am happy to report it.    Carol


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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. Vincent Busenbark )
Subject: Re: SUBSTITUTE TEACHING 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:36:45 GMT

Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King) writes:

>-> In Las Cruces, the school system is advertising for subs in the
>-> paper, I get several calls daily for subbing, and principals and
>-> clerks are obviously getting to work well before daylight to start a
>-> desperate daily search for fresh meat.

>If this is the case, then it is obvious that they need to raise the rate
>they pay subs.

>Sheila
>coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
>                                                                                                           
The pay you mentioned for subbing there (in NM) sounds extremely
low.  Here in central Illinois, in a twin city set-up total population
maybe 100,000 or thereabouts, the pay is $67 per day, give or take
$10 depending on experience and which of the twin cities you're
working in.

Is the lower pay mentioned by the first writer (pay in the $30s and 
$40s) more common across the nation?  I am concerned since I
expect to have to make my living subbing for awhile.

-Vincent
.

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From: Joel.Helton@p1.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Helton)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: first message
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:33:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.1 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

In a message dated 12/17/92, Patrick Galliez wrote to ALL about first message
. . . 

  PG> Hello everybody !!
  PG> 
  PG> My name is Patrick ; I am a teacher of languages (English-Dutch) in
  PG> Belgium at Izel-sur-Semois (south of Belgium - French speaking part)
  PG> and this is my first message on k12.TCH CHAT !! My students are 15-18
  PG> years old and we are looking for contacts all over the world. Please
  PG> send me an answer just to see that my call has been heard somewhere!!
  PG> 
  PG> Merry Christmas from Belgium !!
  PG> 
  PG> Patrick
  PG> ---
  PG>  * Origin: La GAUME - Florenville, Belgium. (2:293/2401)

Hello Patrick!

Your message was received loud and clear here in Nashville, TN, USA (aka Music
City, USA).  Welcome to K-12Net.  I am a 7th and 8th grade computer teacher
here in Nashville public schools.  My students are a little younger than yours.
 Anyway, it is great to have you and Merry Christmas from Nashville!

Joel Helton



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From: Phil.Spooner@f101.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Forthcoming Messages
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 19:06:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/101 - Synthesis, Guemes Island WA

Hi Ann:

I hope you had a Merry Christmas and festive New Year.

I have found a fourth grade class that would love to exchange messages with your students when they return in Feb.  The teacher's name is Tom Hardman.  He has a PC at home and may try to post a message to you in the coming weeks.  We'll probably send some messages during the second week of January. Our students know that your kids won't be back until Feb.  I'll make a back-up file of the messages in case you don't get them.

Sorry this has taken so long.  My video is in the works for you.  Mr. Hardman's class has been trained in video production and woul love to make a video about our school for you.

Thanks again for all the pictures and calendars.  I made overhead transparencies of the pictures to show my fourth graders, just so that they know there are humans on the other end.

I'm sending this message from a bbs system on Guemes Island, in Washington State.  My mother, who I am spending the holiday with, lives on San Juan Island in Puget Sound.  As I look out her window I can see the distant lights of Victoria, British Columbia!

The weather has been fabulous!  Yesterday I took a mt. bike ride. The day before I hiked on the south end of the island and had some great views of eagles flying.

This is a historic island.  The U.S. and Great Britain nearly went to war over the territorial boundaries between the states and Canada during the mid 1800s.  Called "The Pig War," the incident involved both nations sending garrisons and camping them on opposite ends of the island.  The conflict's name came from an incident where an American settler's pig kept foraging in the gardens of one of the British to dos.  The pig was shot and local tension forced the two governments to contend with the boundary is



sue.  At any rate, never a shot was fired.  In fact, the two garrisons spent much time partying together.  This was a great place for American officers before the Civil War!

Enough.  Bye for now.  Be looking for some messages from kids soon.

Peace,
--Phil


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