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From: klovatt@klnet.UUCP (Keith Lovatt)
Subject: Re: LOTUS 123 R.3.1
Organization: Lugroid Enterprises
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:57:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

LANWORKS@HUDCE0.BITNET ((Judy Constantine, 617495-0517)) writes:
: 
:         We're running PW 4.0, and recently upgraded a user to
:         Release 3.1 of Lotus.  Now the PC hangs at the title screen
:         when 123 is started up.  Has anyone had this problem, or
:         better yet, SOLVED this problem?  Lotus says it's an
:         incompatibility with the PW drivers, or maybe QEMM.
:         Any hints or suggestions would be welcome.
:  

I had exactly this problem using one of the early DECstation 316's. It turned
out to be a QEMM problem. I spent way too long messing around with the
parameters and eventually came up with something like this in config.sys:

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS X=DC00-DFFF NOXBD RAM
                                       ^^^^^

The X is the RAM region of the network card, but what really made the
difference was the NOXBD. I suggest seeing the QEMM manual for details.

Keith.
-- 
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r-node.gts.org!klovatt@klnet	|	Phone: +1 416 293 0292
doe.utoronto.ca!klovatt@klnet	|    "You can never find a Lugroid
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Mail / Pathworks 4.1
From: "(bachism)" <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:14:19 -0400
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X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"LANWORKS%MIAMIU.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU"

Try changing the server name in MAIL.INI.
From: martinea@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Looking for VT Terminal Emulation Software
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:45:02 GMT
Organization: Hydro Quebec

In article <apple.717709438@drvax3>, apple@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Kathleen Applegate) writes:
> 
> "Frank (Chip) Dyer x9568 ..Electrical Design" <DYERFDF@HSDWL.UTC.COM> writes:
> > 
> >   I am looking for a *GOOD* VT3xx (VT2xx last choice) shareware or public
> >   domain terminal emulation package (DOS).  I specifically want one that
> >   can co-exist with PathWorks (DOS-VMS).
> > 
> >   I am looking for recommendations/reviews, and how to obtain these
> >   packages - Via FTP would be best.   Platform: DOS 5.0 & VAX VMS A5.5.
>  
> Kermit gets my vote.  I use ver. 3.12 everyday on a PathWorks 4.1a
> network with zero problems.  It is freeware, and it can be FTP'd
> from Columbia University:  watsun.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.39.2)
> 
> The full release files for version 3.11 are in directory:  kermit/a
> 
> The executable for beta 3.12 is:  kermit/bin/mstibm.exe
> (Source for the beta version won't be made freely available until
> 3.12 becomes officially bless-ed.)
> 
> The update summary on 3.12 is:  kermit/test/msr312.upd
> 
> There is a version of Kermit available for the Macintosh
> (as well as a few hundred other platforms).
> --
> Kathleen Applegate, Sr. Analyst      apple@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov           
> Marshall Space Flight Center             Voice:  (205) 544-7656
> 
> 

A VT3xx is NOT a vt100, and that is what kermit emulates. 

Alain Martineau
Hydro Quebec
martineau@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: wasser@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::wasser)
Subject: Application Programmer Error
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:00:33 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

> When I start up certain applications under DWDOS [PC DECwindows Motif], some 
> applications windows are too big to fit on the screen.  

	Many programmers do not bother to check the screen size.  This is
	a programming error and you should contact the program developers.

	The only solution that does not involve getting the programmers
	to fix their mistakes is to buy an 8514/A or TIGA adapter and 
	monitor so you can use 1024x768 mode.

> I'm in 800 X 600 mode and they still don't fit.  

> Have you tried turning on Panning under the DWCONFIG program? 
>         -BobH
>         Robert K. Hamilton       hamilrk1@bisdpo1.bisdnet.jhuapl.edu

	Panning won't help him much, Bob. It is limited to not much more 
	than the 800x600 he already has and he'd have to go to a 640x480
	mode to use it.  Panning is of use to people with EGA/VGA
	cards and 640x350/480 monitors.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: RE: Novell drivers for Depca's?
Reply-To: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:23:05 GMT


>>DEC's Etherworks cards can be used for Novell clients.  What you need is
>>a packet driver and BYU's IPX configured for a packet driver.  (This solution
>>does NOT work for the original DEPCA).
> 
>Ahem... I have a half-dozen PC's that would disagree with this.  There IS a
>catch, you have to restrap the original DEPCA boards (ours were purchased in
>early 88) to disable ROM and put the interrupt vector, port address and ram
>address in the DEPCA.DOS section of the PROTOCOL.INI file.  In our case its:
> 
>Interrupt=3
>IOaddress=0x300
>RAMaddress=0xD000
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Richard H. Ault, Computing Services Center      ault@queens.edu
>Queens College, 1900 Selwyn Ave                 ault@alumni.caltech.edu
>Charlotte, NC 28274-0001                        (704) 337-2303
>

Uhmm, DEPCA.DOS - oh, you mean NDIS...ok, I haven't tried this.  I've not
been able to get the original DEPCA to run under packet drivers.  Have
you been successful with the above?
--
====================================================================
Ken Brown                                       voice: (705)748-1540
Trent University Computing & Telecommunications   fax: (705)748-1246
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada K9J 7B8     internet: kbrown@trentu.ca
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: Ramon Tate
Subject: Problems with DAL in PW/Mac 1.1
Reply-To: tate@faxcsl.dcrt.nih.gov
Organization: Computer Systems Lab., NIH
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:11:42 GMT

Hello, DAL/Pathworks for Macintosh gurus!

I'm having a problem getting my DAL connection up under System 7.0.1 and would
like to hear about your experiences in this regard. The Vax is a 4000-300
server, VMS 5.4-2, Rdb runtime-only. I installed Pathworks for Macintosh V1.1
as per all the instructions, I think, and then installed the client stuff on my
Quadra 950 "like the book says", but I can't get the connection to complete.
Other users on non-Quadra machines are also having the same problem now. The
ADSP Debugger reports the following:

Hostname? HERMES
Username? FRIBBLE
Password? 
Connopts? 
Atconnect HERMES.DCRT
username FRIBBLE
MPPOpen = 0
DSPCreate = 10
Entity HERMES:DAL Server:DCRT
Server Found!
Entity name		Net:Node:Socket
Entity HERMES:DAL Server:DCRT505:4d:97
About to open listener connection
ATtxnsnd (16c125e, 13, 88) 
DSPWrite = 21
ATtxnrcv (18000)
DSPStatus = 30
ATtxnrcv = 21
response /ffff ffff ffff ffff 7/
DSPClose = 0
scanning ffff ffff ffff ffff 7
Unable to LoginATdisconnect
DSPRemove = 0

1: Connection to host 'HERMES' failed.
1: Error #-10632 (0) adsp (HERMES:DAL Server:DCRT)
1: Message: Host error - Server subprocess terminated unexpectedly soon.
1: Disconnected.

Surely this means something to someone out there in netland....thanks in
advance, and I just hope this isn't a FAQ.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ramon L. Tate
Computer Systems Laboratory, DCRT
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892                               tate@faxcsl.dcrt.nih.gov
From: KRAMER_AG@RSO.DNET.GE.COM (Aaron Kramer GE Hypersonic Systems Dept 215-354-4355)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Mail / Pathworks 4.1
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:44:42 GMT
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Question: The mail that comes with pathworks keeps complaining
that it can't find the node I have asked it to go get my mail from.
I specified a particular node, and then our cluster alias in MAILSETU,
and MAILSETU conveys this information to MAIL when MAIL starts up.
 
The PCs are served off a Microvax that is not in the cluster. Is MAIL
expecting the Pathworks server to be the mail server? If so,
how do I change the mailserver???
 
Aaron
Kramer_ag@rso.dnet.ge.com
From: AWOSBORNE@GENVAX.COMPUTER-CENTRE.POLY-OF-WALES.AC.UK
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: TopSpeed package in PathWorks
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:29:00 GMT
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	Hi World,
 
	A TopSpeed-package problem while running on PathWorks.
 
	TopSpeed (version 3.02) Development Environment for DOS
	TopSpeed Modula-2 for DOS
 
	VMS 5.4_2
	PathWorks 4.1 on a VAX/VMS Cluster
	DOS 5 on a P.C.
	Both QEMM386 (version 6) and EMM386 have been used at different
	times to try and resolve this.
 
	When installed on the local drive of my P.C., it works without
	errors.
	When installed on a PW network drive, it hangs the PC when I
	attempt to compile a source program. I suspect it will hang like
	this with all such error states that put out the following messages.
 
	A titled window with:	'PROJECT unnamed' appears,
	as well as the message 'Press CtrlBreak to abort'.
 
	Unfortunately, Cntrl-break doesn't work, and I soon get the PC
	beeping at me when I fill the input buffer with cntrl-breaks,
	escapes ...
 
	I have read/write and create access to all the relavent directories
 
	Has anyone installed this package on pathworks and can remember
	any workarounds that they had to adopt ?
 
	I'm prepared to put the time in to crack this problem myself, BUT,
	this Uni. doesn't have that time and I want to avoid installing
	it on all the P.C.s as standalone packages.
 
	I have contacted the local TopSpeed support in the U.K but they
	have little or no experience with PathWorks.
 
 
					Nye Osborne.
From: JMAASKANT@UTHSCSA.BITNET
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Pathworks Netbios Layer
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:19:00 GMT
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Original_To:  JNET%"lanworks@miamiu"

One of our departments did  a rather unique [groan] thing a few years back.
 
They are running 10-Net on top of Decnet Dos 2.0's netbios layer.
The start up looks something like this
 
cd\decnet
 sch /s
 dll
 dnp
 netbios ...
cd\10net
 10net work.pro
 10net login,...
 net use ...
 net use ...
 ...
 
10net loads it's redirector and runs over the old Depca cards and has
been doing so for a few years.
 
Recently they began experiencing intermittant crashes and we want to update
the netbios layer (we've updated 10net, although not to the most recent
version, to no avail, and updated their pc's to MS-Dos 5.0) in the hopes that
a more recent version won't display the problem.
 
This appeared relatively straightforward, install and initialize a normal
pathworks client, then make the following mods to their startup sequence:
 
cd\decnet
 SCH
 Dlldepca
 dnneth
cd\10net
 etc..
 
This appears to work flawlessly (g).  However it allows only 3 connections.
(1 server, 3 client) the 4th client gets a "time out on send" when attempting
a (10net) NET USE.
 
Updating the server to Pathworks' sch/dlldepca/dnneth makes no difference.
 
Regressing the first three clients to connect to Decnet-Dos'
sch/dll/dnp/netbios and leaving the 4th with the pathworks configuration
still keeps the 4th one from connecting.
 
_apparently_ there is some
From: mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu (David Mathog)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: (Mac + CD-ROM + Pathworks +ISO9660) = Read ISO9660s on VMS <5.5
Date: 5 Oct 1992 09:47 PST
Organization: Division of Biolgy, CALTECH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: seqvax.bio.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

It turns out that one can run Pathworks "backwards" to serve an ISO-9660
cd-rom to a VAX with VMS <5.5.  Method:

  Mount an ISO9660 CD-ROM on a Mac CD-ROM drive and Share it.
  Run pathworks/Mac on that Mac
          OR
  Run pathworks/Mac on another Mac, and mount the CD-ROM AppleShare volume
  Set up a proxy on the Mac for the VAX account that will access it
  Read the CD-ROM with standard DECnet syntax, ie:
       MACNAME::CD-ROM Volume Name:[000000...]

Performance isn't great, but mostly it seems to be the CD-ROM that's rate 
limiting, and it does seem to work.  The main problem is giving multiple
VAX accounts access to the CD-ROM without also giving them access to every
disk on the Mac Server.  If anybody has solved that one I'd like to know
how it was done. 

Hey DEC, how about S/O/G/W RWED protection at the volume level on Mac disks
available through Pathworks/Mac? 


David Mathog
mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu
manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech
From: harris@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::harris)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: pathwors for mac 1.1 and sys 7
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:00:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)


    Re: "ATKINSON@URVAX.BITNET" -< pathwors for mac 1.1 and sys 7 >- 
    
>    We've been having some problems while upgrading our Macs to System 7.
>    What we don't have is any clue if we are having system 7 problems, or a
>    combination of problems between system 7, and Pathworks for Mac 1.1.
>
>    Anyone who has been successful at this, feel free to chip in to the
>    conversation. I'm trying to schedule some daily time to read this list,
>    but no promises.
    
    Without knowing what your problems are, it is very difficult to
    diagnose them.
    
    To the best of our knowledge, PATHWORKS for VMS (Macintosh) V1.1 works
    well with System 7.
    
    					Bob Harris
    					Digital Equipment Corporation
From: spinillo@MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: pathworks - lan manager question
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:13:37 GMT
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I am in the middle of compiling a parts list to assemble a small
lan - manager network which will use a 8046 EISA for the server. The
clients will be 8 MACs and 4 IBM PC compatibles. This network will
be standalone for the time being but will eventually connect to
out Pathworks VMS server/network. We are presently running
PWORKS 4.1 VMS and DOS and MAC 1.1. Is anyone else running this configuration?
 
I can use any help as this is all new to me.
 
thanks in advance!
 
tony
 
Tony Spinillo
Tech Coord
Marywood College
717-348-6215 ex 557
spinillo@marywood1.marywood.edu
From: BECKERJA%WPO1P%WPO2V@SNYCENVA.BITNET (Jim Becker)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LOTUS 123 R.3.1 -Reply
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:52:00 GMT
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We occasionally experience this problem still, but have found
that reserving a bit of extended memory through QEMM addresses a
majority of the hang ups.  First, make sure QEMM is at least
version 6.01.  If so, try adding an  EXT=1536  parameter to your
QEMM device line in CONFIG.  If you already have some EXT
reserved, try boosting it 1024K.  If there's still no better
response, I have no further suggestions.
 
P.S.   Don't let Lotus push you around;  they are notoriously
finger pointers.  If QEMM and Pathworks work well with many other
major products, then it seems Lotus is the incompatible one.
Pressure them, as we have, for a resolution.
 
==================================================================
Jim Becker          |  __   LAN WP ____\ VMS WP ____\ WP/VMS Mail
State Univ. of NY   | |ME|  Office     / Office     /   Gateway
Central Admin.      |  ~~                                  |
TEL: (518) 443-5548 |                                      |
FAX: (518) 443-5799 |  ___   /~\__/~\                      V
E-MAIL:             | |YOU| |Internet| /___ Joiner /___ Innosoft
  BECKERJA@SNYCENVA |  ~~~   \_/~~\_/  \     JNET  \      PMDF
==================================================================
 
 
==================== Original message text =====================
 
Subj:     LOTUS 123 R.3.1
 
      We're running PW 4.0, and recently upgraded a user to
      Release 3.1 of Lotus.  Now the PC hangs at the title screen
      when 123 is started up.  Has anyone had this problem, or
      better yet, SOLVED this problem?  Lotus says it's an
      incompatibility with the PW drivers, or maybe QEMM.
      Any hints or suggestions would be welcome.
 
        Thanks,
                                     Judy Constantine
                                     Harvard University
                                     Div. of Continuing Education
 
CONSTANT@HUDCE0.HARVARD.EDU
                                        CONSTANT@HUDCE0.BITNET
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: 3COM Etherlink III anyone?
From: Stephen Stone <CCSWS@LEVELS.UNISA.EDU.AU>
Date: 27 Sep 1992 11:10:22 +0930
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>Has anyone got any experience with the new 3Com Etherlink-III boards yet, that
>they'd be willing to share? The price looks good...
 
They are very fast.  I am not sure about a native pathworks DLL driver because
I have only tested the NDIS driver.   I only have figures for reading files from
LAN Manager servers (not Pathworks VAXes or DECstations on the same wire).
 
The Etherlink III is at least twice as fast as any of the 8 bit cards I tried.
 
The price certainly is better than any other 3Com card we have seen.
 
Stephen (Rocky) Stone,  Levels Team Leader
 
Postal mail:                          |  Tel:  +61 8 302 3242
    Information Technology            |  Fax:  +61 8 302 3385
    University of South Australia     |  Email: Rocky.Stone@UniSA.Edu.au
    The Levels, S.A.  5095            |
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: aus@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans Aus)
Subject: CDROMs/MACs/DEC CDROM Software Documentation.
Originator: aus@winx03
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:14:40 GMT

The interesting and usefull information on using CDROMs
in a mixed Vax/PC/MAC system from
 
jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk and
mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu

is greatly appreciated. Thank you. 

Has anyone had any experience using the Dec Software
Documentation CDs on a MAC, either direct and/or with
AppleShare  and/or Pathworks?

Hans

-- 
Hans M Aus, Institute of Virology, University of Wuerzburg, Germany
e-mail: hans.aus@vax.rz.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (preferred)
Versbacherstr 7, 8700 Wuerzburg. Fax: Germany +931 201 3934; tel:3954
From: eagr03@castle.ed.ac.uk (M I Clarkson)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Local boot setup
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:25:32 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Hello!

   We are currently moving from v4.0 to v4.1 and from remote boot to
local boot.  We are a small computer unit presently supporting a 25
user lab, a 10 user lab and about 30 other users.  Our intended setup
is to have the major (ie Windows) applications and swapfile on the local
disk, with less used applications each on their own FILE service (so
there is no need for the LAD driver, we can take each application drive
down independently and PATHs are shorter).

   I would like to use the fast USE command that I saw mentioned here -
where can I get it?  An FTP site would be easiest for me.

   I would like to use some form of protection on the local disk to stop
the users (mainly students) from deleting the application and decnet files,
and to stop them swamping it with their own files - any suggestions?

   What is the easiest way to keep the configuration and .INI files
seperate from the applications on the local disk (ie each user has their
own configuration regardless of which machine they use)?

   Do you have any other suggestions/comments on this setup?

(By the way, all PCs run under DOS v5, the same as on the server).

--
Mike.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Pathworks and Network based FAX services
From: Alan Cantrell <CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX.BITNET>
Date: 29 Sep 1992 08:09:36 -0500
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Does anyone on this list have experience setting FAX services for PW users?
 
I would like to know about your experiences.
 
 
--Alan
 
INTERNET - cantrell@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
BITNET   - CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX
From: havemann_l@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Trouble with PC hang in STARTNET
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:12:31 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Oct2.104117.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, samurdock@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
>     I have a PC that I'm trying to load Pathworks onto, but am not having much
> success. The PC had 5MB memory and is not set up for EMS. The ethernet card is
> the Etherlink II. 
> 
> The problem is what when I execute STARTNET it gets as for as displaying
> "PATHWORKS NDIS Datalink," and the version and copyright date for that, then
> the PC hangs.
> 
>     I have tried doezens of variations in configuring Pathworks, but come up
> with the same problem every time. I have two other PCs also running Pathworks
> (one with a DEPCA board and the other with a Etherlink/MC board) that have
> never had the problem this one is having.
> 
>     Any ideas?
> 
>     
>             Thanks,
>             Scott Murdock
>             Academic Computing Services
>             University of Missouri - Kansas City

Sounds like a memory or device conflict.  Try loading the NDIS driver without
any other TSR's being active, also look at the protocol.ini file and make
sure that your IRQ setting isn't being used by any other device (comm,
lpt etc.) 

Are you using any memory manager? QEMM does exactly what you describe when you
load the protman.sys and the 3Com driver in high (or low) memory.

  You really have to tinker around with exclusions and stuff to get it to work.

-- 

 Lee Havemann, Sys_op    HSH Associates          (201) 838-3330 
 Havemann_l@spcvxa.spc.edu      -      Havemann_l@spcvxa.bitnet
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
  including myself."
From: dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Pathworks performance vs Novell
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:01:57 GMT
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <Bvnu8r.1Hs@netnews.jhuapl.edu>,
     hamilrk1@bisdpo1.bisdnet.jhuapl.edu () writes:
> You have received some good information regarding the comparison of the 
> machines to be used for file servers. I recommend that you make sure to use 
> the LANSESS transport on your DOS clients instead of DECNET. The LANSESS 
> transport was written specifically for use in a Local Area Network 
> environment and will provide you with the best transport performance.
> 
> We have used both DECNET and LANSESS on our LAN and have noticed a 
> considerable difference accessing file services ......
> 

  We used to use LANSESS, but I've had a couple of problems with file
services which seem to be related to using LANSESS instead of DECNET.
In one case an application was complaining intermittently about "Network
not available", even though everything indicated the network connection
was there ( eg DIR of the service worked fine, etc ). In the other case
accessing a file service from a DOS Shell session within Windows 3.1
seemed to hang the connection using LANSESS. In both cases switching
back to DECNET solved the problem.

  This doesn't mean you shouldn't try LANSESS, but I'd suggest if you
get strange problems you switch back to DECNET and see if they go away.

========================================================================
Malcolm Dunnett    Malaspina College         Email: dunnett@mala.bc.ca
Computer Services  Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA        Tel: (604)755-8738