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From: tange@daimi.aau.dk (Ole Tange)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ET-4000 FAQ?
Date: 16 Jul 92 19:27:33 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

There has been a lot of trouble shooting for the ET-4000 and I don't like
to ask a question that has already been answered, so:

Would someone please compile a ET-4000 FAQ and send it to me?


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Alien invasion????
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:45:22 GMT

The newsgroup comp.os.os2 is not valid -- please have your system
administrator remove it from your site.

Do not backup and OS/2 system under DOS -- you'll miss the extended
attributes if you do.

To repair your system boot OS/2 from the Installation Disk/Disk 1 and
run CHKDSK /F per the instructions in the FAQ List.

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From: trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce Newall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: The Future of OS/2
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:50:56 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I have been seriously considering buying OS/2 v2.0 for about 2 weeks now.  
However, I heard from a friend up in San Francisco that Microsoft will no 
longer be licensing the code required for OS/2 to run Windows programs.  In 
effect, Microsoft is cutting their losses and trying to run IBM's operating 
system into the ground.  I would like to know if there is any truth to this, 
'cause if there is, then I don't think I'd bother with OS/2, in spite of how 
wonderful it sounds.  Any comments?

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does 800x600x256 on the VGA part of a Graphics Ultra work under OS/2?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:37:52 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul27.041631.3433@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mek4@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Mark Kern) writes:
>I'm interested in buying a Graphics Vantage w/ VGA pass through to my
>Diamond Speedstar.  Will this work in 800x600x256 under my already
>installed OS/2 2.0?  By work, I mean if it is possible for me to switch
>to a full screen DOS session of a game and still have the game access VGA
>without problems.  Is the ATI that much faster for OS/2?  Or will my
>performance be better improved by going to a 486 (I have a 386-33) or
>by getting more than 8 megs RAM?  I just want my Window apps (Draw, etc.)
>to have a faster refresh time and for my OS/2 windows to be snappier.

First of all, if you want a pass-through, you want the 8514/Ultra, not
the Graphics Vantage.  The Vantage has a VGA already onboard.

I think you can have dual monitor configuration - VGA and 8514.  I
don't know if you can have super VGA modes on the other board.  I know
you can setup a dual monitor installation on a PS/2 with an 8514/a
(plug second monitor into internal video port).  It should work with
two boards as well.


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From: mo@sdf.lonestar.org (Mohit Goyal)
Subject: Making Detail View the Default
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:20:26 GMT

Hello.  I read the FAQ and tried to set the DETAILS VIEW as the 
Default for the DRIVES object.  

I did just what the FAQ said and now whenever I click on the DRIVES
object it gives the details view of my four drives (A,B,C,D).

The problem is:
when I select a particular drive (A,B,C, or D) and try to set ITS
default view to Details, OS/2 won't let me.

I can open drive D's settings for example, go to menu, click on
~open, select Settings, click on DETAILS VIEW and select OK, *but*
if I click on Settings again, ICON VIEW is shown as the default, 
*even though* I just selected details view.


I wonder why it saves the information for the Drives Object, but
not for each drive itself.  

What I am trying to get is that whenever I select a Drive or Directory 
OS/2 always shows me a details view of whats in it.  How do I do this?
Thanks.

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From: ivan@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Ivan Gum)
Subject: Re: Improving OS2 performance question
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:07:25 GMT

>
>NOTHING is going to help you like 4 more MB of RAM is going to help
>you.  Get the RAM, change to HPFS, and you'll find that OS/2 literally
>runs several times faster.
>-- 

I've heard that there are a few bugs with HPFS.  Is it safe to use and can I convert HPFS file back to FAT at a later date?


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From: tange@daimi.aau.dk (Ole Tange)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Deinstalling os2
Date: 16 Jul 92 19:07:18 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

>> >> Can someone tell me how to deinstall OS2 ?

My question is: Is it possible to de-install some of the features?
(I installed full version and see already now that I won't use
all of it)


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From: concour.cs.concordi!patrice@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows problem
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:46:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
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I am getting the following error message:


 WPWINFIL has caused an error in
 WIN-OS/2*
 GP fault in module WPWINFIL.EXE
 AT: 0001:0031



when booted in DOS5 with WIN 3.1 it still works so nothing is damaged in 
WPWIN.EXE. The machine is a 486DX/33 with AUSTEK chipset AMI BIOS. 8Mb ram
with standard video drivers. 


After I press OK to clear the message the CPU goes to 100% forever. The only 
way to get back to zero is to open another windows application and then
kill the winos2 that runs the windows environment. 


Any help  would be appreciated. 

Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: uujanze@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rob Janzen)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Problems
Keywords: Help
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:26:27 GMT

In <1992Jul27.023619.2814@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>In article <1992Jul26.210957.1499@ccu.umanitoba.ca> uujanze@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rob Janzen) writes:
>> Well, in an effort to try to get everything working correctly on my copy
>> of OS/2, I applied 3 patches today, os2krnl, os2ldr, and replacing comm.sys and 
>> vcomm.sys. 

>But it runs better with every one, so keep up the good work! 
> 
>BTW - if you named them "comm.sys" and "vcomm.sys" then that may be your
>problem.....one too many "m"s in each case. S/B "com.sys and vcom.sys"

>Steve

Nope, stupid typing error in the posting, not in the config file.

I still haven't figured out the problem, so I will probably reinstall OS/2     
tonight. Either that, or finish downloading all the patches first...

Thanks for the advice! 

Rob Janzen
From: fang@cs.unc.edu (Qin Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Borland C++ on OS2
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:24:33 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of North Carolina, Computer Science Department


  Can someone tell how to make BCC run in OS2 environment?
  I did set DPMI_DOS_API to ENABLED, but this only made BC work. It reported
illegal memory access when I ran BCC.
  Thanks.

  
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From: lamar@athena.mit.edu (Matthew L Florence)
Subject: vga mode in os2
Followup-To: lamar@athena.mit.edu
Keywords: vga card
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:26:47 GMT

I am a new subscriber to this news group, so please forgive me if this question
has been answered before.  But, does anyone know how to get the drivers to run
a Diamond Speedstar Stealth Card (?) in 800 x 600 vga mode under os2?  If anyone
reponds, I will be eternally greatful to that person and name my first borne
after him or her ("Hi, little jeffw@sci.mit.edu.  You're just sooo cute.).  Please
respond to me personally at lamar@athena.mit.edu.  Thanks ever so much.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Fred.Homan@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Fred Homan)
Subject: SYS1034 prob with PROTSHELL & RUNWORKPLACE Difference...
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 06:02:13 GMT

	I've configured my OS/2 so that I can do windowing but don't have to
put up with icons (I really don't like icons.).  So, I have the following in
my Config.Sys:

PROTSHELL=D:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=D:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=D:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS
SET RUNWORKPLACE=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET COMSPEC=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=.;D:\OS2\DLL;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\;D:
SET PATH=D:\OS2;D:\OS2\BIN;D:\OS2\SYSTE
					^^^^^^^^^^-More here but way too wide
							to bore people with

	As you can see I load CMD.Exe for my Workplace Shell and have the
Presentation Manager for my PROTSHELL.  It all works fine except for the fact
that the first thing that pops up in my Workplace Shell on bootup is a SYS1034
message, which means the system can't find the command processor in the path
specified.  Since it only happens when the PROTSHELL & RUNWORKPLACE do not
point to the same shell, I assume that's the problem.  Why does this happen?
It's kinda strange to get this message and then still have the system run
the way I want it, so I guess it's more an annoyance than anything else, but it
does make me curious.

Fred Op
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From: kskapin@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu (Keith T Skapinski)
Subject: Re: Has Colorado created OS/2 drivers?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.125104.2461@cbfsb.cb.att.com> feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:
>In article <protein.711773060@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> protein@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Chris Blackmon) writes:
>>Has Colorado MicroSystems created drivers for their DJ (Jumbo)
>>series tape backups yet?  Are they due sometime?
>>
>Their BBS has a bulletin saying "Scheduled for 1993--Windoz first"
>

The windoze version is out. Actually, its the looks like its the dos version
just running under windoze. They give you a little windows icon, and an 
install utility to install it into windoze. Big deal. I just got it in the
mail 2 days ago.

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From: GEORGE.WILEY@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: URGENT - Anyone Accessing Laserwriter over Appletalk Network
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:09:50 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

Surely, someone out there in OS/2 netland MUST be using a Laserwriter via an
Appletalk network!

But nevertheless I did NOT get any replies to my post (included below) re my
URGENT problem trying to print on such a printer.

If you ARE successfully (or otherwise) using this setup, PLEASE reply to this
post or at least email a response.

Thanks.

George Wiley.

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I successfully installed OS/2 2.0 two days ago but I am having a total lack of
success accessing the office Laserwriter, via a Localtalk card over an Appletalk
network.

Under "real" DOS, I ran the network driver ATALK and then "printed" a Postscript
file using LWPRINT <filename>.

Howebver, when I run the above commands from inside a VDM (using OS/2's DOS),
the ATALK driver seems to load OK but LWPRINT aborts claiming the the ATALK
driver is NOT loaded!!


Is anybody out there using these two program successfully? And if so, how?


All replies gratefully received as this problem is URGENT!


Thanks in advance.


George Wiley,
University of South Australia,
Adelaide, Australia.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SVGA driver advice needed from new user
From: lawrence@cmu.unige.ch
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:18:16 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

-- 
Hi Folks,

I just ordered my copy of OS/2 2.0 and have a few questions while waiting
for my copy.
I have a 486 33mHz with 64K cache and 8Mb memory, an SVGA Generic ET4000
video card with 1Mb memory and a 117MB 13ms Hard disk.
1. Are there any drivers for my card for the WPS better than normal VGA.
2. Are there any drivers for Win/OS2 for 800x600 in 16 or 256 colors.
3. If so how do I set it all up?

Thanks for your advice,

Graham :-)
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From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: some gripes about OS/2 2.0
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:40:52 GMT

bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:

>I like OS/2 ok.  I just wish I had my SVGA support and I wish all my
>windows 3.1 applets would work (I know both of these will probably
>be fixed soon).

There's an OS/2 Mine game that's better than the Win 3.1 applet.
Look for it at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Also, you can have 60Hz Tseng4000
800x600x256 driver support by getting the orch09.zoo file from the
same ftp site.  The only thing is that these SVGA drivers don't have
seamless Windows support and they don't let you use many of the
fonts in your DOS windows.

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From: jochen@hotb.sub.org (Jochen Dornauf)
Subject: HELP: How can I bind a 32-Bit-DLL using...
Keywords: GNU GCC, LINK386, LINK
Organization: Home of the brave
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:36:40 GMT

Help: Who is able to tell me how to compile and link a valid
.DLL for use with OS/2 2.0.
I am using GCC and LINK386.
Is there some special need for C-Sources (declarations were formerly
some link _loadds _far pascal ... or similar...)
and what are the options for LINK386 and
the definitions file...?


thank you for your help

Jochen Dornauf, Offenbach, Germany (jochen@jogi.hotb.de)

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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the disk space
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:27:32 GMT

jstewart@desire.wright.edu writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.033046.2007@infonode.ingr.com>, bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>> 
>> It's just not worth giving up all of this just to be able to format floppies
>> while playing Wing Commander in a window.
>> 
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>> bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum

>	I think you are to blame, you failed to identify your needs before you
>went ahead with purchase and installation.  

I didn't purchase 2.0.  I got the free upgrade from 1.2 to 2.0.  I am 
not bitter, just dissapointed.  I thought 1.2 was a great product, and 
if it had a v86 mode I probably would never have switched to windows3 
in the first place.  I was hoping that 2.0 would live up to my expectations, 
but it did not.

>						John Stewart

>P.S. thanks IBM, I use OS/2 and I love it:)

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From: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: adding more memory
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:14:06 EST
Reply-To: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

07-21-92  07:24 - Peter Vonkaenel wrote to All re: Adding more memory


 PV> My current system is a 486/33 with 4mg of memory.  When I installed
 PV> OS/2 I knew that some day I would be adding more memory, so I decided
 PV> to install HPFS since I didn't want to have to re-install.  Well, some
 PV> day has come and soon I will have 16mb.  I know that I must change the
 PV> initial size of the swapfile (listed in the config.sys), but I don't
 PV> know what I should change it to.  So could someone out there please
 PV> let me know how large a swapfile I should have?  Also, is there
 PV> anything else I should change so that the system will make better use
 PV> of the new memory?

I changed the second number to 0, and my swapfile stays consistently
around the 1<->2 MB area.  I'm not sure why, since I'm not running
very many things at this point...  anyone have an explanation?

With the extra memory, you can probably afford a larger cache.
 
If you're using HPFS, change the /CACHE:xx in the IFS=HPFS... line
to 2048 (the largest HPFS supports -- oh yeah, while I'm here,
does anyone know _why_ you can't use more than 2 MB of memory for
HPFS caching??)

Change DISKCACHE=xx,yy to something respectable like 1024,32 or
even more if you like.
 

kenneth.tam@canrem.com


 
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From: magnus.acs.ohio-sta!kls@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Format 1.2M to 1.44M
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:12:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Very recently, there was a posting which recommended a DOS
floppy formatter called fdformat, which will format a 1.2M
5.25 floppy to 1.44M.  Can anyone tell me where to find this
program?  It sounds like it would be very useful to me.

Thanks in advance.

Ken

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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Charge for upgrade to OS/2 3.0???
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:38:01 GMT
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith) writes:

> gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar) writes:
> 
> >I am ready to run screaming from the room right now...
> [tale of bad telephone support and slow shipping]
> 
> Ahh, you had it EASY.
> 
> I've been trying for 3 1/2 months now to get my free upgrade.
> Screw-up after screw-up after screw-up!  AAAARRGH.  I could
> easily type a 10 page horror story, but I've already posted
> a multi-page grievance a while back.
> 
> Steve Smith

A follow-up to the screamin' 'n hollerin' story.

Today I got the EE upgrade tonnage via Airborne Express!

Today I got a call from a nice young lady from IBM Boca, enquiring about
  the upgrade details, problems and offering help. (Too bad the upgrade
  got to me an hour before the call!)

Today I received an email message via Internet from an IBMer (Internet
  relay point to the Upgrade bureaucrats) - again asking for the gory
  details.

Has IBM got problems dealing with the public? Hell, yes. Is IBM trying
honestly to fix the problems? I think so. The wheels seem to turn ever so
slowly, but, hey, they're turning. And hey, they are _BIG_ wheels. inertia
and all that.

One nightmare ends. Now on to the others...;-)

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From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Video drivers
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:32:23 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

I have an interesting question.  I installed Os/2 today on my PS/2 model 90
at work which is a 486/33 with an XGA graphics adapter.  I installed it to
use the high res (1024x768) mode.  I have a Tseng ET4000 based adapter on
my 486/50 at home.  I noticed that the high res XGA driver includes a large
number of really nice fonts to use in DOS boxes.  Far more readable than
the junk we are putting up with in Ochids high res 256 colors.  I know
that the screen fonts are stored in the .DLL file (display.dll)...so is
there any way for me to extract the fonts from the XGA display.dll and
incorporate them into the Orchid drivers?  I would think that a resource
editor would be able to do this...but I don't know of any resource editors
for DOS, Windows or OS/2.  I'd love to have an equivalent of Resedit for 
the Mac on my PC.  Any comments or solutions?

It seems odd to me that Orchid would keep putting out these sorry ass
drivers with ugly ass 2-choice having fonts when the built in XGA drivers
have so many beautiful fonts!

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