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From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose
Subject: Re: TECHNO Samples...
Date: 3 Oct 1992 12:07:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct3.162546.27473@zip.eecs.umich.edu> fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew H. Fields) writes:
>In article <BvIKLF.75D@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:
>[...]
>>On a related topic:  Who out there knows about sampling and copyright violation?

There have been several copyright infringement suits involving rap music
using samples of other recordings. As I recall, one outcome was that there
is NO minimum time of an excerpt of a recording for that recording to be
considered "exempt" from copyright restrictions. Some people hear that it's
OK if no "significant" portion is used, if less than 30 seconds (or 15 or
10 seconds) is used, and so on. As far as I know, this is NOT true.

Of course there is a practical minimum. If you sample a kick drum, it may
not be legal, but if no one is able to tell that it was their kick drum
you sampled, they won't sue you. Most of the famous cases have come about
through someone using something rather recognizable (James Brown's famous
vocalizations, various rap quotations of movies or old recordings). HOWEVER,
recognizability is NOT (as far as I know) a legal criterion in copyright
cases. As I said above, it may be a practical issue, but if someone testi-
fies that they observed you sample half a second from a Michael Jackson,
the fact that you disguised it, layered effects on it, etc. should make
no difference legally. Likewise, the amount that that particular sample
contributed to the artistic effect or how much money you made from it don't
have any legal bearing on the copyright issue itself (though they may, I
think, make a difference in the amount awarded in an infringement suit).

>Performing Arts copyrights are notoriously tricky.  Your best bet would
>be to work in conjunction with a copyright lawyer, or ask probing questions
>of the folks at library of congress...

Agreed, but keep in mind that the folks at the Library of Congress don't
make or legally interpret the copyright laws - that's up to Congress and
the courts respectively. Try to get permission from the artist you're
sampling if possible.

Bill Alves
From: dood+@CMU.EDU (Jason P. Milletary)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Techno clubs in San Antonio ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:35:18 GMT
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I will be going to San Antonio the weekend of Oct. 9-11.  Can anyone direct
me to any raves, good dance clubs, etc. in the area?

Thank you muchly,
--jason (dj guile)

ObPromo:
Listen to My Life In The 808 State
Thursdays 6pm-8pm on WRCT 88.3FM Pittsburgh
heh
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: Query
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:12:07 GMT

aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider) writes:
>bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
>: In article <1992Sep28.155805.444@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk writes:
>: >What is the average attendance of most "big" raves in the U.S, over here we
>: >have normally have the capacity for about 20,000 but normally the attendance
>: >is only 10,000+? How does this compare with the U.S?
>: 
>: Yow!  "only 10,000+"...  the largest they get in the US is about 5,000, and 
>: that's primarily in LA and a recent one in NY.  Usually the large ones in
>: SF get around 3000-4000, but the ones with more than 2000 people have a 
>: tendency to lose their rave-family feeling.
>The Milwaukee raves I've been to seem to average between 1000-2000 through

Down here 10,000 is a very big rave - we might see that at new year's or
the mardi-gras or the upcoming sleaze ball, but they're not really raves IMHO.

The largest real rave I can remember here was one of the alexandria welsh
embassy things (forget the name) which packed about six or seven thousand
as I recall, but really, that was much too crowded. I think most organizers
here are geared for around about 2-4000 for a large rave. 

Then again, we don't have the population you folks do, so per capita we're 
doing rather well. I hear that New Zealand raves regularly get in excess of 
10,000 members, but most of them are mutton ;-)

-- 
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"Nothing is pulling it. Nothing is pushing it. It must be devil's work!"
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Twitch is on the net!
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:56:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <27SEP199222170108@rosie.uh.edu> st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (Taylor, Daniel K.) writes:
>	What's the track listing on CD4? When was it released?

>Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 23:24:54 GMT-0700
>From: twitch@casa-next1.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wertheim)
>To: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
>Subject: Twitch newsletter
>
>
>
>Lots of cool stuff going down nowadays.  First off, our three latest products
>are now available.  They are Twitch CD #4, Twitch Volume 7 and the Ultraviolet
>Catastrophe 12".  Track lists....
>
>
>TW-CD-04, Twitch CD #4:

 [ incorrect listing deleted, it's in the next message ]

>TW-07, Twitch Volume 7 (2-record set):
>
>Rough and Raw - "Money for Nothing"
>Gat Decor - "Passion"
>M to the Third Power - "Brainwaves"
>Studio X - "Los Kings del Mambo"
>Rozalla - "Are You Ready to Fly"
>DOP - "Groovy Beat"
>The Darwin Chamber - "Mesmerelda"
>Human Resource - "Dominating the Mix"
>
>
>TW-EP-01, Ultraviolet Catastrophe 12": "The Trip" b/w "Trip Harder"
>
>
>Twitch CD #4 and Twitch Volume 7 will be in DJ record stores next week and
>are available by mail order from us immediately.  (If you have already pre-paid
>for one, you should receive it some time next week.)
>
>The Ultraviolet Catastrophe 12" is available only through record stores.  If
>your local 12" store doesn't carry it, they can order it through Watts Music
>or Unique Music.
>
>Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 08:58:06 GMT-0700
>From: twitch@casa-next1.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wertheim)
>To: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
>Subject: Twitch newsletter
>
>
>I accidentally gave the track list for CD #5 instead of CD #4 in yesterday's
>message.  CD #5 won't be out for a few months.  The track list for CD #4 is....
>
>React 2 Rhythm - "Whatever You Dream"
>Young American Primitive - "Nature"
>Jam & Spoon - "Stella"
>Skin Up - "Ivory"
>Sonic Boom - "Tra La La"
>Rabbit City _ "Digital Domain"
>Zero B - "Lock Up"
>Direckt - "I Got Ya"
>Sonz of a Loop da Loop Era - "Far Out"
>After Dark - "Come With Me"
>Nebula II - "Flatliners"
>
>Also, there is a slight error in the booklet for CD #4.  All of the bpm's
>listed are incorrect, and we credited the wrong record label for the Nebula II
>track.  Oh well.  These things happen.  At least we got the order of the
>tracks right.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
               It is said that the Devil has all the best tunes.
                             This is broadly true.
                    But Heaven has the best choreographers.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.sex.bondage
From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: Sleaze Ball, Sydney 3 October
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:22:22 GMT

So much for principle - a friend has required my presence, so I'm going to
sleaze (noun and verb) after all. But I don't have to like it ;-). I'll try
to get to both the ball and the rave, and report faithfully for the poor folk
in the podes.

afreeman@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Freeman) writes:
>Each member can buy 5 tickets for themselves and friends. The reason for this
>scheme is that it helps prevents the ticket scalping that occurs outside
>the horden each year. It also prevents people who may not know what they
>are letting themselves in for 'turning up on the night' and having problems
>coping with reality. Some of these people stabbed a boy last year. The 
>database is simply a way of making sure that people who come know what its
>all about. The labels are not really that important, attitude IS.

I don't know if this argument is valid - folk can still run into trouble going
to and from the ball, and of course such things happen in many other contexts.
I guess it's a choice between two evils.

>This is the hugest party, there are 14,000 tickets on sale, top DJ's, wild
>lights and theme decoration. It is held in the Sydney showground and uses
>The Horder Pav, The Hall of Industries, the Dome and other buildings. If
>you have never been to one they are a real experience and well worth a little
>effort to get there.

I can only agree. This year's theme is 'jungle'. Thousands of Janes. Thousands
of Tarzans. Thousands of Cheetahs. Should be something to censor your letters
home about.

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Snail: 1/18-20 Orion Road, Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia    Phone: +61 2 911 3130
The game is afoot!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Angela Johnson <Angela_Johnson@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Rave in Detroit
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 16:43:45 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

I've heard that there are Raves in Detroit, but can someone tell me where?
Some friends and I would love to go to one.  I would appreciate any
info.
Organization: Junior, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 14:32:41 -0400 
From: "Brian O. Bozarth" <bb2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: rave clothing request

Hi there,

     Does anybody have quick access to any Jive or Clobber shirts or
caps???  I would really like to get some of these since no one really
carries any in Pittsburgh.  Where do they sell them and can you buy them
for me????  I can of course re-imburse you on it or would like to make
trade for techno CDs or 12"s of about equal value.  Send me info on
what's availiable(designs, colors, etc.) so I can have some choice. 
Would prefer shirts and caps of good quality: ie: shirt 100% cotton. 

 Are there any other companies that make them?  Do Jive and Clobber have
their own stores?  If so, where?

Thanxs,

Brian

PS: For those of you who went to the Evolution rave in CMU, Pitt...what
was your impression?  I helped out on staff but was pleased with the
turn-out and the set-up.  The accoustics were not helpful to the DJs.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: Orb Assassin!!!!!
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 12:30:11 GMT

paul eng-yi tan writes:
|> I saw a list of new releases somewhere: looked like this...
|> 
|> Orb Assassin I
|> Orb Assassin II
|> 
|> 
|> What does this mean??? The guy said these were out already. 
|> (I think it was nm list). ANyway... Are these two separate versions
|> or is it a Blue room type pack???


Assassin is released on 0ct 5. as 7" 12" and CD-single. The CD-single is part
I, and a part II CD-single is released oct 12.

Part I has two mixes of Assassin and one mix of UFOrb, and part II has 3 mixes
of Assassin.

All UK dates, and all according to NME.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Craig Morgenstern)
Subject: Re: Techno clubs in San Antonio ?
Organization: Texas Christian University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:32:09 GMT

In article <30SEP92083434@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu> omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu writes:
>In article <gem_7aS00VQnA2i0oA@andrew.cmu.edu>, dood+@CMU.EDU (Jason P. Milletary) writes...
>>I will be going to San Antonio the weekend of Oct. 9-11.  Can anyone direct
>>me to any raves, good dance clubs, etc. in the area?
>
>That's funny, I'll be in Dallas from Oct. 10-15 and in San Antonio
>from the 15-19.  In other words, I'D LIKE INFO TOO!!
>
>#############################################################################
>
>               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."
>
>Oscar Fowler
>omf@hacks.arizona.edu

In Dallas, try One (3025 main st.).  

craig morgenstern
morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu
From: hwyman@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (The Hwyman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Saturday Nite's RAVE In DC
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:51:23 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

This is copy of a letter I got from a friend about the Catastrophic Rave
last Saturday night.

From: Chris Daniel <thalx>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 09:32:44 -0400
To: distribution:; (see end of body)
Subject: Catastrophic Rave

What a blast!

If the fun can be measured by the after-effects... then I had the time of
my life.  I'm massively sick, so whatever's been going around, y'all have
been kind enough to share with me.  Oh well, I hadn't finished the  
homework
due today, anyway.

Lemme say that for several years, I've been looking for the right crowd  
and
conditions to get over my dance-o-phobia.  I think I've found 'em.

For those that didn't attend... the rave was held in  a warehouse in... 
Beltsville, I think.  At the corner of Powder Mill and Rt. 1.  However,  
the
directions given led to the REI parking lot, in Hollywood.  About 11pm,
tour busses showed up, to shuttle people back and forth.

The really cool thing was that the tour busses drove up to, and *inside*  
the
warehouse, so as to deposit the ravers-in-waiting directly onto the floor,
into the lights and lasers and fog.  The tour busses ran well into the  
night,
and were still going at 3am when we all left.  It was pretty cool watching
a tour bus approach, headlights penetrating the fog, while ravers slowly
opened up a path for the bus.  I wish I knew what the drivers thought of
all this!

There weren't any of the Smartdrink things, so I still have yet to try  
one.
A can of coke was $1.50....I'm thinking of picking up a CamelBak for the
next one.

Can't wait 'till the next one!  In the meantime, however, I'm stiff and 
sore all over.
					-Thalx
From: ryanw@milton.u.washington.edu (Ryan Waite)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: House Comps (was: NO SPLITS and Don'talk about that...)
Keywords: house compilations
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:15:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Okay, let's talk about house.  I was looking for a compilation of
house tunes.  I found a disc called "X-Static Volume 5: MEDIA HEAVEN, A
lovely collection of piano house and rave."

The title should have been enough to keep me from buying it ("lovely"),
but I have X-Static Volume I which has some nice D-Shake tunes, so I
thought I would try this disk. 

I think the word TRASH describes this comp nicely.  Can anyone recommend a
house compilation?

On a similar note, Bruce Wayback will be playing house at the Weathered
Wall in Seattle on Sunday Oct 4.  It's called SWEAT PARTY and the flier
says "Work your mind, body and soul to the sounds of House, Garage and
Soul with little or no attitude."  Cover is $3.

ryanw@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Sweet Emotion song...
From: djperry@husc10.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:20:28 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct2.132523.27823@cs.tcd.ie> droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe) writes:
>In article <Uemlziu00WBLA3AqUz@andrew.cmu.edu> mb7z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Angelo Battaglia) writes:
>>would that be "Sweet Emotion" by Liquid

[...]
>
>Nope, youre absolutely right  - I'm listening to it right now. That's 
>XL - The Third Chapter - Breakbeat House, in case anyone is thinking
>of searxhing this great comp. 
>

That song is Sweet HARMONY, not Sweet Emotion.  Sweet Harmony is a great tune, I
agree.  Have no clue who did Sweet Emotion.

deX!  (Sorry to be anal, but misinfo is bad.)


-- 
Hate is a fuzzy puppy.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Orb ad nausea
Organization: Space Is The Place
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:27:04 GMT

>In article <1992Sep29.142658.9110@vax.oxford.ac.uk> archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>how many Orbs does it take to change a light-bulb........................
Um, let me think... <fx: cracks knuckles>

Fourteen. One to sample the bulb, one to light the spliff, one to contact the
extraterrestrials inside the bulb, and ten to make all the remixes!

-- 
| Randy Jones          | "Dos, cuatro, seis, seis. Cinco, cinco, quatro, seis. 
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu |  tres, dos, cuatro, dos. Cuatro, cuatro, seis, seis."
| 608 259 9674         |                                  -9.95 MHz, 3:20 GMT
From: jaffray@oreo.berkeley.edu (Alan Jaffray)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Twitch is on the net!
Date: 27 Sep 1992 06:24:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oreo.berkeley.edu

Mike Wertheim (of Twitch) is on the net.  He has an email list as
well as a snail-mail list, and also an information file with not only
listings of the songs on various Twitch releases, but also what the songs
sound like, who remixed them, and what they changed and added in the remix.

He's far too good a net.citizen to go around hyping his own business on
the net, but there's no problem with someone else hyping it, right?
The address is twitch@twitch.stanford.edu, so it shouldn't be too tough
to remember.

I only have CD 1 so far (from a friend who had 3 copies of it), but I
was pretty impressed by it...  Here's what Pete Ashdown had to say about
the second CD, in some past XDZ review:

Twitch CD 2
Twitch: TW-CD-02
1   4   07:01 The Grid: Boom
2   3   05:52 Jesus Jones: Info Psycho
3   2   07:20 Celebrate The Nun: Patience
4   5   05:36 4 Hero: Mr. Kirk's Nightmare
5   4   04:22 R.A.F.: We Gonna Get
6   5   06:00 Turntable Terror: Break!
7   3   06:55 Egma: Let The Bass Kick
8   3   07:01 Genaside II: Narra Mine
9   5   06:01 Armageddon Dildos: Resist
10  4   07:37 The Hypnotist: House is Mine
11  4   06:54 The Prodigy: Charly
12  3   05:56 Expansions: Elevation

Comments: Some GREAT remixes on here.  Available only by mail order or through
a DJ shop, Twitch blows the Razormaid wimps out of the water.  "Charly" was a
slight disappointment.  It just isn't very different from the original.  Just
about everything else though, is a new song in its own right.  "Info Psycho"
rips completely, unlike the rest of Jesus Jones' pop-smear.  The mix of "Mr.
Kirk's Nightmare" is brilliant.  I found myself humming the bleep line the
other night, which NEVER happens to me with a techno song.

Summary: 9/10.  Find it.  Support Twitch.

Incidentally, you can also get the Ultraviolet Catastrophe 12" from them.
Mr. Drukman can hype that himself, since I haven't heard it.  :-)

-- Alan
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno clubs in San Antonio ?
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:34:34 GMT
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <gem_7aS00VQnA2i0oA@andrew.cmu.edu>, dood+@CMU.EDU (Jason P. Milletary) writes...
>I will be going to San Antonio the weekend of Oct. 9-11.  Can anyone direct
>me to any raves, good dance clubs, etc. in the area?

That's funny, I'll be in Dallas from Oct. 10-15 and in San Antonio
from the 15-19.  In other words, I'D LIKE INFO TOO!!

#############################################################################

               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."

Oscar Fowler
omf@hacks.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo)
Subject: Publishing Music
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:24:56 GMT

Althought I haven't been into making music for very long, I would like some
info on how hard (or easy) it is to get music published.  I am currently
making techorave/industrial type music (Front 242 and FLA are my models/idols)

Now, here is how I would like it:  I get 3 or 4 good songs (mixes) made using
my drum machine and sampler (and possibly a keyboard) all sequenced so that
I can hit start on the drum machine and the entire mix will be played (the
instruments are hooked together via midi).  Now, I head on down to the
nearby recording studio, hook my computer and drum machine up, play the
mixes onto DAT and send it off to Wax Trax! Records (or Third Mind Records).

I believe Wax Trax! is a good label for new industrial groups to start with,
is that true?  Is it as simple as sending WaxTrax a DAT and them sending you
a letter saying 'Your sweet, we want your music', you sign a contract and
make some decent money?

BTW, how much do grops like Ave Maria and New York Style make for getting a
single mix on one of those technorave cds? (No Sex Until Marriage, Shut 
Up).  Do they get anything?  

Please give me any info that you may have.  Thanks ...

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Query
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:04:33 GMT

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:

>Yow!  "only 10,000+"...  the largest they get in the US is about 5,000, and 
>that's primarily in LA and a recent one in NY.  Usually the large ones in
>SF get around 3000-4000, but the ones with more than 2000 people have a 
>tendency to lose their rave-family feeling.

Oh come on!  Didn't Frankie Bones DJ for 25,000 people three years ago?

	-> :^)
-- 
	"Oh, save me from these pale green pants with nobody inside!"

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: b102smi@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley)
Subject: Re: Is the new Orbital domestic (US) yet?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:43:00 GMT

karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes...
> 
>That's it. There are two "Radicchio" (sp.?) 12"s out in the UK. Time
>for both of them on one US CD, no?
> 
> 
It's out, although it was sold out when I wanted to buy it.
Other interesting US release dates:

Oct 13  808 State     Gorgeous
Oct 20  The Prodigy   The Prodigy Experience
Nov  3  The Orb       UFOrb

Damn, the Orb has been moved back a month. WHY ?!?!

George
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: ***RAVE IN PITTSBURGH***
From: Kelly Derek Deyoe <kdeyoe+@CMU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:49:39 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> i heard from a friend that supposedly metropol is going to start having
> weekly (hush,hush) raves on sunday nights...(to avoid the high school
> brats)...
> the first one may even be happening the first weekend of october?!?!?

Umm, yeah, this is true, it's happening, the first one will be the 4th
of October, you should see more about it real soon now apparently. .
.Adam X from DC is supposedly gonna be at one of these things sometime
soon too (but not the first one). . .

also, for more news, look for something next friday right here at cmu. .
.more info to follow or call 412/734-8330 altho it currently doesn't say
anything. . .

KD

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Subject: happenings in Chicago?
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:36:29 GMT


Ok, I know it's a little late, but I'm gonna ask anyway:  Does
anyone in the Chicago area know of any big/good/fun things going
on on Saturday night?  Raves, shows, etc.; anything (except Jim
Crowes Sideshow Circus)...

thanks,

tom


tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu