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From: u870181@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Richard Reid Gregg)
Subject: Commodore and SAS C questions...
Keywords: SAS Commodore
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 07:33:35 GMT

I have a few questions for anyone in the know...

1) What price is SAS C in Australia and is there a student discount and how
	much (and of course where)?

2) Does this come with the Commodore include files?

3) How do you register as a Developer with Commodore (Is this how you get the
	include files) ?

4) Generally any other helpful information...

Thanks in Advance...


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Xref: sparky aus.computers.amiga:733 comp.sys.amiga.applications:6783
From: t9014135@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: demos/animations for the A3000
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:52:54 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)


Does anyone of any good demos/animations that work on an A3000.

Please state the ftp site if possible.

thanx tef

email:	T9014135@phillip.edu.au
	tevfik@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: rhuynh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Richard Huynh)
Subject: WANTED : 52 mb HD
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:45:47 GMT

Hi,
	I'm looking for a cheap hard drive for amiga 500. Does any one
would know whewre I can get one at a relatively low price. Most of the
prices that I have seen are ~$800-900 for a 52 megs.


			Thanks,
			Richard.
From: fmonro@neumann.une.edu.au (F J Monro)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: Amiga Computer System for sale
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:37:04 GMT

graham@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Graham Hannah) writes:

>Workbench 3

Workbench 3?, Workbench 3!?.. How much just for this :-)


-Che Monro			aka fmonro@neumann.une.edu.au
	"reverse the polarity of the neutron flow.."
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: mcdonoug@dmpe.csiro.au (Graeme Mc Donough)
Subject: Problem with ainimation generation
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:20:13 GMT

I have got a Program Called Vista-Pro.
This program generates an animation sequence by outputting
Iff's.
I have just completed an animation across a landscape, producing
1400 iff images. 
I tried to load them into Duluxe Paint 4 but it could not handle 
the number of images That it had to process.
The best I could get out of Duluxe paint was about 530 images.

Is there anybody out there that can tell me what software is available
to make an animation from all of my iff images.

Graeme Mc Donough
mcdonoug@mineng.dmpe.csiro.au
From: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: POTGO on the Amiga?
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:20:54 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <1992Aug25.101849.8878@newshost.anu.edu.au>, sjr691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Stuart J Ramsden) writes:
> I am trying to use a potentiometer via the mouse port of an Amiga. I have
> tried thus far without success, and I am wondering if anyone out there has
> done it already and if there are any tricks to it. For instance, how important
> is the timing; can I just poke the POTGO register with x0001 and read the
> POT0DAT register a few frames later, or must the timing be exactly one frame.
> Is it ok to use WaitTOF() for synchronization, or should it be both WaitTOF()
> and WaitBOV(). Whenever I read the POT0DAT register, I just get zero.


I'm not sure how helpful this will be....

A couple of years ago I saw an impressive demo of a weather station based on 
an Amiga, and it may have used pot inputs as you describe.

All I can remember is that the presentation was given at a meeting of AUGOSA
(Amiga Users' Group of SA) by a high school student - we were really 
impressed.  If you can track down an AUGOSA member like Jonathon Potter he may
be able to get a better pointer to the person. 

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Head, Networks Group                        Phone : +61 8 259 5292
Corporate Information Systems               FAX   : +61 8 259 5537
DEFENCE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ORGANISATION Postal: Bld 73 Labs Area
AUSTRALIA                                           PO Box 1500 Salisbury 
            "Lord Warden of the Sync Ports"         South Australia  5108
                (DSTO Network Manager)              AUSTRALIA
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.games
From: patc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Pat Caldon)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: upgrading from 1.2 --> 2.whatever help!
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:40:29 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia

In article <u907037.714806525@bruny> u907037@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Deidre Rushton) writes:
>Hi,
>sorry if this has been covered before, but...
>
>I'm finally going to haul the old Amiga 500 out of hiding, and want to
>upgrade it to the latest chip set (release 2.X??).  It's a 1.2 machine from
>the dark ages (1988).  I've heard vague rumours that the 1.2 machines have
>a problem with the motherboard and can't upgrade.
>
>Questions:
>Can a 1.2 machine upgrade easily?

No problems really, just take out the old ROM and put in the new one. There is a
jumper across the chip which you may or may not have to cut, however this is
clearly explained in the instructions included.

>Can a 1.2 machine upgrade at all i.e.by modifying the existing board?
>If the latter: how and what would this cost? (I'm a poor struggling student :)
>

No there are no mods required; if however you want to install a new angus chip
(which is the big square one which does the graphics) there are a few jumpers
which have to be changed in order to get 1 meg chip ram- to get two is very
difficult and requires extensive modification.

>Or am I totally out of luck and need to buy a new machine?
>
>Thanks for any help you can offer :)
>Please email me at u907037@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
>
No problems,

enjoy,
Pat.
From: ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: Osbourne computers
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:27:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug18.070219.24088@marlin.jc:1786270960:peg:998300010:000:392
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!ilanet    Aug 25 11:27:00 1992


Osborne has a serious contract with the State Library of NSW and we have
a number of these machines (namely 386's) in the Library.

Where I work we had an AT for some two and a half years and it was
fantastic.

You could call Bradley Thomas our PC person for a personal opinion
if you like. He is on 02 230 1647.

Regards,
Sandra Davey
ilanet@peg.pegasus.zo.au
ooops ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
From: matthew@cs.su.oz.au (Matthew Geier)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Micropolis Hard-Disks
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: matthew@cs.su.oz (Matthew Geier)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia


 I recently got given an old AT with a Micropolis 1333A Hard-Disk. The drive
has been formated at a 42 meg drive, even though the drive case is says 53
meg.
 Im wondering if any one happens to know , or knows where I can find, the
phyical parameters of the drive.
 I want to know if the drive is in fact setup incorrectly , or if the 53
meg on the label is the unformatted capacity and it is in fact correctly
formated as a 42 meg drive.

Matthew Geier,
matthew@cs.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers
From: graeme@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Graeme Gill)
Subject: Re: The BEST 1280x1024 video card for IBM
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: melb
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:20:34 GMT

In article <9223015.13080@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Chris Gersch) writes:
> I have an XGA monitor that does 1280x1024 interlaced, and 1024x768 non
> interlaced.
> 
> I have heard that the ET4000 based cards are good.

	Actually they're rather poor (but it depends what your used to. I'm
used to a fairly fast X terminal myself :-).  The trouble is that these cheap
cards use ordinary DRAM for the frame buffer and when you crank the resolution
up there is no bandwidth left for the CPU. Cards that uses VRAM chips should
be 2 to 3 times faster at high resolutions.

	Graeme Gill
	Labtam Australia

Newsgroups: aus.computers
From: cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Chris Gersch)
Subject: The BEST 1280x1024 video card for IBM
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: melb
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:25:44 GMT

I have an XGA monitor that does 1280x1024 interlaced, and 1024x768 non interlaced.
I would like to know of a good card that can do these two modes, with at least
256 colours in the 1024x768 mode.

I will be running Windows 3.1 with it, so performance is an important. I have heard
that the ET4000 based cards are good.

Any comments on the Realtek sVGA (does the above modes, but doesn't seem too quick)

Chris
From: gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Glenn T Jayaputera)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Re: 386sx-33 Vs 386dx-40 Vs 486sx-20 Motherboards.
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:59:59 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Department of Computer Science

skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh) writes:

>I have a 486sx 20Mhz, it reported 75 using Norton's sysinfo, it has 0k
>cache...

Are you sure you measure it with SI??  What version??? 

>My girlfriend's 386DX33 with 256k Cache reported 51 (sysinfo).

I think you are using old SI.  The new one should give you the rating at
about 34-35

Cya2
Glenn Jayaputera
RMIT
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: Nigel Jessup <NJessup@compserv.amc.edu.au>
Subject: Apple StyleWriter driver for Win 3.1
Organization: Australian Maritime College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 06:11:47 GMT

#########################
Nigel Jessup
NJessup@compserv.amc.edu.au
Australian Maritime College
Launceston Tasmania 7248
#########################
From: u8682085@cs.uow.edu.au (Juan Carlos Medin)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Re: Upgrading memory - SIMMs and SIPPs - whats the difference?
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:01:21 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Uni of Wollongong, NSW, Australia

hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:

>In article <u734120.714180157@bruny>, u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
>> andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:
>> 
>>>       I'm thinking of upgrading my PC's memory up to 4 or 8 meg so I can run
>>>OS/2 some time in the future. Is it easily done? To de-statisise yourself do you
>>>just touch the case of the PC?
>>>       What are the differences between SIMMS and SIPPS?

>[Deleted]

>> SIMMs are physically different to SIPPs.
>> SIMMs are like chips on a card which uses pcb style edge sockets.
>> SIPPS are like chips on a card which has its own pins which go into a long
>> inline IC type socket.
>> 
>> Don't even worry about electrical similarities!
>>

>Actually SIPPS are often just SIMMS with legs soldered onto them. I have some
>here that are simply SIMMS with legs. They go in a Commodore PC-50
>(Manufactured by Mitac).
> 
>> I think the difference in the number of chips on the SIMM card itself
>> would be related to the amount of memory the actual SIMM supports ie
>> 256k or 1M - but check with the store - take along your hardware manual.
>>

>Usually no difference at all. Some 1M SIMMS have 3 chips, some have 9. If your
>motherboad is well made, then you will have no problems (My Mitac MB has SIMMS
>of different count AND speed in it), while some motherboards have horrendous
>problems with merely mixing 9 and 3 chip SIMMS (Yes I'm running OS/2 2.0 on it.
>Probably the best memory and hardware checker out there :)
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>|  Hamish Marson   <h.marson@waikato.ac.nz>                             OS/2 |
>|  Programmer (n/5), School of Computing and Mathematical Sciences           | 
>|  University of Waikato,                                                    |
>|  Hamilton, New Zealand.                                                    |
>|Disclaimer:  Anything said in this message is the personal opinion of the   |
>|             finger hitting the keyboard & doesn't represent my employers   |
>|             opinion in any way. (ie we probably don't agree)               |
>==============================================================================
>  Q. If Nuclear Tests are so safe, why don't the French do them under Paris?

There are 9 bit SIMMS & 8 bit SIMMS, The nineth bit is used as a parity check
by some machines. If you put an 8 bit SIMM on a board that requires 9 bits
it won't work.  

		Juan, u8682085@wraith.cs.uw.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh)
Subject: Re: 386sx-33 Vs 386dx-40 Vs 486sx-20 Motherboards.
Organization: University of Western Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:56:57 GMT

s870694@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Alfred Porziella) writes:
: 
: These are the best prices I could find in Melbourne for the
: following motherboards ( mail me if you know of cheaper prices ).
: 
: 	386sx-33	$230
: 	386dx-40	$320
: 	486sx-20	$395
: 
: So which is the best buy in terms of raw speed, and
: which is the best in terms of price/performance.
: 
: Also if anyone has one of these motherboards, please
: post the results returned by a benchmarking program
: such as SPEED(?) which gives you a landmark (LM) rating.
: 
: I will post a summary of responses to this newsgroup.
: 
: -----------------------------
: Alfred Porziella
: s870694@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au
: ----------------------------- 
*********************************************
I have a 486sx 20Mhz, it reported 75 using Norton's sysinfo, it has 0k
cache...
My girlfriend's 386DX33 with 256k Cache reported 51 (sysinfo).
ALTHOUGH...  I can't notice very much differenc in raw speedi runnind
Windows 3.1, perhaps it's because she has cache.

CYa!!
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: davel@coombs.anu.edu.au (Dave LaMaitre)
Subject: Re: Master-slave Config & IDE
Keywords: configuration of hard drives
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date:  1 Sep 92 04:13:15 GMT

u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au (Anthony Thomas Cusack) writes:
>Subject: Master-Slave config & IDE

>Is it possible to configure a stable system on an IDE controller
>that has a master / slave configuration, I am looking at getting
>a new PC (486 DX .......) and can only afford a 120 meg HD.

	If you take it to a dealer where you buy your hard drive from, they will only be too happy to install it for (for a fee of course). But it is quite easy to do if you want to do it yourself. All you have to do is place the new drive in the second connector on the IDE cable and set the correct jumpers.

	To find out the jumper configuration, you should ask the person you bought the hard drive from, or ring up the company that makes the hard drive and supply them with the hard drive model, size and any other info you feel is necessary. Normally companies are pretty good with helping customers out.

	Some hard drives have the information needed already screen printed onto the board of the drive. You must set one hard drive (generally the first one on the cable...please correct me if I am wrong) to be the master and the other hard drive to be a slave. You must also tell the BIOS in the setup routine the number of cylinders, heads etc of the new hard drive.

	If this fails then I generally try swapping the master drive with the slave drive. And then you can start playing around with different configurations of the jumpers etc. etc.

	Then, if that fails, get some help from someone who knows what they are doing....:)

>This will be 70% full straight away with my stuff, but my girlfriend
>wants to put on a stat's program that takes up 40 meg of space.

	We all know the problem with hard drive space...or more corectly lack of hard drive space...:)

>The system has to be stable cause if it crashes when I'm not
>there god only knows what she might do to the computer!!!!!!

	If the computer works for about 24 hours after installation, then generally they should not play up at all. No matter what DOS you are running, it should not have any difference to the reliabililty of the system. This is because it is hardware based and not software driven.


	I hope this helps a little bit. I would check with someone who knows what they are doing if you decide to put a drive in yourself to make sure that you can do it...

								Dave
--
   Dave LaMaitre
 davel@coombs.anu.edu.au		"What's so civil about war anyway?"
 user0030@student.anu.edu.au				-Guns'N'Roses
 lamddcs1@toscanini.anu.edu.au		aka. BigDave on irc :-)
From: s915074@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Vitor TEN)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Games For Sale
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:52:45 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

For Sale Twilight 2000
	 Curse of Azure Bonds
	 D.R.A.G.O.N. Force

Email me and make me an offer.
s915074@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
From: s870694@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Alfred Porziella)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: 386sx-33 Vs 386dx-40 Vs 486sx-20 Motherboards.
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:20:56 GMT
Distribution: aus


These are the best prices I could find in Melbourne for the
following motherboards ( mail me if you know of cheaper prices ).

	386sx-33	$230
	386dx-40	$320
	486sx-20	$395

So which is the best buy in terms of raw speed, and
which is the best in terms of price/performance.

Also if anyone has one of these motherboards, please
post the results returned by a benchmarking program
such as SPEED(?) which gives you a landmark (LM) rating.

I will post a summary of responses to this newsgroup.

-----------------------------
Alfred Porziella
s870694@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.au
----------------------------- 
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: peter@tardis.trl.OZ.AU (Peter K. Campbell)
Subject: Re: Tseng Labs 24bit SUPER-VGA card
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:42:27 GMT

peter@caro.trl.OZ.AU (Peter K. Campbell) writes:

>OK, I've been to the PC Show, so now I've got a story to tell.  To start
>off with - all of my information comes from Microarts, who are effectively
>the Melbourne distributors for Tseng (that is, whenever Tseng puts out
>something new, they have it first) as well as MediaVision (PAS-16 soundcard).
>The either incorporate or include Chips & Bits Australia, which may
>explain this.

[... blah deleted ...]

>Now, the MA guy said that the cards had only missed the PC Show
>by a week, i.e. they will have a few advance copies in THIS
>WEEK, with main production coming in by the end of the month,
>with all drivers for Windows & OS/2 (seamless).

>So, we are currently hassling MA to see the card when it comes
>in.  A friend of mine usually buys new Tseng cards as soon as
>he can get his hands on them, so with any luck I'll be posting
>another article within a week to say how great it is - but don't
>hold your breath ;-).

Well, aren't you all lucky you haven't been holding your breaths.
Latest word from MA is that there will be no advance shipping this
week, and that, in fact, Tseng intend to use all of the "due out
by third quarter" time, so we won't be seeing anything until late
September.  They haven't even released a price-list yet.  So I
don't know what that bloke (would "yobbo" be too strong a word?)
was doing stringing me along with the "due in next week" line.

As they say in the software industry, tomorrow never comes.  Especially
when giving out deadlines :-).

Peter K. Campbell
p.campbell@trl.oz.au
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Re: Upgrading memory - SIMMs and SIPPs - whats the difference?
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:52:26 +1200
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <u734120.714180157@bruny>, u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
> andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:
> 
>>       I'm thinking of upgrading my PC's memory up to 4 or 8 meg so I can run
>>OS/2 some time in the future. Is it easily done? To de-statisise yourself do you
>>just touch the case of the PC?
>>       What are the differences between SIMMS and SIPPS?

[Deleted]

> SIMMs are physically different to SIPPs.
> SIMMs are like chips on a card which uses pcb style edge sockets.
> SIPPS are like chips on a card which has its own pins which go into a long
> inline IC type socket.
> 
> Don't even worry about electrical similarities!
>

Actually SIPPS are often just SIMMS with legs soldered onto them. I have some
here that are simply SIMMS with legs. They go in a Commodore PC-50
(Manufactured by Mitac).
 
> I think the difference in the number of chips on the SIMM card itself
> would be related to the amount of memory the actual SIMM supports ie
> 256k or 1M - but check with the store - take along your hardware manual.
>

Usually no difference at all. Some 1M SIMMS have 3 chips, some have 9. If your
motherboad is well made, then you will have no problems (My Mitac MB has SIMMS
of different count AND speed in it), while some motherboards have horrendous
problems with merely mixing 9 and 3 chip SIMMS (Yes I'm running OS/2 2.0 on it.
Probably the best memory and hardware checker out there :)
-- 
==============================================================================
|  Hamish Marson   <h.marson@waikato.ac.nz>                             OS/2 |
|  Programmer (n/5), School of Computing and Mathematical Sciences           | 
|  University of Waikato,                                                    |
|  Hamilton, New Zealand.                                                    |
|Disclaimer:  Anything said in this message is the personal opinion of the   |
|             finger hitting the keyboard & doesn't represent my employers   |
|             opinion in any way. (ie we probably don't agree)               |
==============================================================================
  Q. If Nuclear Tests are so safe, why don't the French do them under Paris?
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee)
Subject: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:01:59 GMT

I will be one of the first dealers in the GRAVIS ULTRASOUND CARD.

If you would like more info, mail rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

Eventhough I'm living in Perth, university/mail orders or welcome!!!


The price is $280(tax included, exclude mail charges)


rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
From: u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au (Anthony Thomas Cusack)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: EDGE Computers - any good??????
Summary: Well are they?
Keywords: Are EDGE computers any good
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:28:32 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

As the title says I need to know are they any good.

I have been offered one at a very competitive price, but have never 
used them personally. Any replies - good and bad will be gratefully 
accepted

With thanks
	Anthony Cusack

u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.ibm-pc
From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: HD > 1024 cylinders
Keywords: hard disk fdisk
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:02:24 GMT


A friend has a couple of hard disks with 1224 cylinders.  AMI BIOS likes
them, and will low level format and verify.  FDISK refuses to recognise
anything over 1024 cylinders!

Any light on this one would be appreciated!

Cheers!

John
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