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From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Disneyana - Beauty&Beast Cels Preview
Organization:  Cuz I'm a Blonde!
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:26:16 GMT

In article <Rich_Koster.0u3d@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>A few of the cels from "Beauty and the Beast" were on display
>during the Disneyana Convention in Orlando, as a preview for their
>upcoming auction in Los Angeles October 17th (I think that's the
>date). 

I was excited about picking up the catalogue for the BatB auction on a recent
trip to Disneyland (this past weekend), but it was nowhere *near* as 
interesting a selection as there had been for TLM, so I skipped it. This is
of course, IMHO. I mean, to me, some of the selections looked just plain
*odd*, let alone uninteresting. 

>Proceeds of this auction will benefit an AIDS charity, in memory of Howard 
>Ashman, one of the film's composers who died of the disease.

Even if I could spare the money, this would be the only reason I would buy 
a cel from this lot. I really think they could have done a better job of
selecting cels for this, and it's a shame after the wonderful selections for
TLM (IMHO)

>Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US

   Tyger
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From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Disneyana - Beauty&Beast Cels Preview
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:37:15 PDT

In article <Rich_Koster.0u3d@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US>, Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>
> Proceeds of this auction
> will benefit an AIDS charity, in memory of Howard Ashman, one of the
> film's composers who died of the disease.

If I recall correctly from my copy of the catalog, there is only one
piece whose proceeds will go towards an AIDS charity.  It is not one
of the cells, but rather the painting created for the wraparound cover
of the catalog.  Given the cause and Ashman's popularity, and the
fact that the piece is set in the ballroom while there are *no* cells
from the ballroom scene in the auction, I expect that it will bring
in a really whopping price.

Is anyone interested in the text from the auction catalog describing
what is actually being sold (since there were no hand-inked cells)?
E-mail me, and if I get enough response I'll scan it in and post it.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: johnhall@leland.Stanford.EDU (John Hall)
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 03:08:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.185113.3383@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <2237@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.153908.15195@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis) writes:
>>
>>The only trauma was caused by Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.  After riding it once,
>>the three-year-old refused (as only a three-year-old can refuse) to enter
>>any of the rides having similar-looking entrances (Snow White, Peter Pan).
>
>Very interesting.  Another poster has also mentioned Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
>as one that frightened her child, and I can attest, second hand, that it
>has been doing so for many years.  My elder brother, when just a wee tot,
>bit my father rather than permit himself to be taken on this attraction.
>That must have been some thirty years ago.  I wonder what it is about
>Mr. Toad's Wild Ride that children find so uniquely disturbing?
>
>--
>		Peter Reiher
>		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
>

If nothing else, I think the concept of going to Hell and back might be 
somewhat disheartening for a young person.  

--Just a thought.








-- 

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P.O Box 04101, Stanford, CA 94309      |        11715 Pine Valley Place
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From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Halloween / Haunted Mansion Help
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:43:45 GMT
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <1992Oct9.123608.26213@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> you wrote:
>
>Im going to decorate my house for Halloween and try to put tombstones
>in my front yard for a graveyard type scene (made of wood, of course).
>Anyway, I would like to know the quotes on the the tombstones at the
>Haunted Mansion in WDW so that I can put them on my tombstones and try 
>to tie the life and fun of Disney with the Blood, death, and evil of 
>Halloween (and I personally think it would be neat).


How about making up your own epitaphs.  Maybe you'll surprise yourself
and find out that yours might be better.
From: teri@sdd.hp.com (Teri Tracey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: B&B Laserdisc
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:06:59 -0700
Organization: HP/San Diego Technical Graphics
NNTP-Posting-Host: hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Oct6.053519.12599@news.columbia.edu> fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali) writes:
>
>The Beauty and the Beast gift set is supposed to have the "Work in
>Progress" tape (letterboxed, BTW) ...

I saw a WIP tape which has a time box in the upper left hand corner and
text at the bottom of every frame saying "Academy..." something-or-other 
indicating that it was for submission to the Acadamy Award committee.  
It was NOT letterboxed.  It would be great if the tape that they decide to
sell IS letterboxed, but I'm wondering now.

Teri Tracey              "When people are free to do as they like, they
 San Diego, CA            generally imitate each other."                   
  teri@sdd.hp.com  
=============================================================================
From: linbo@pilot.stat.ufl.edu (Brett Linbo-Terhaar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:00:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Oct7.160047.8163
Reply-To: linbo@pilot.stat.ufl.edu (Brett Linbo-Terhaar)
Organization: U of Florida. Statistics Dept.

My wife and I took our (then) 2.5 year old down to WDW for spring break last March.  We went to EPCOT and went to MUPPETVISION 3-D.  The biggest problem we had was keeping the glasses on my daughter's head, but other than that she throughly enjoyed it (and I recommend it).  So the previous poster does not feel too bad, I feel obligated to point out that my daughter (and I) are serious cartoon addicts, and therefore very into seeing stuff like this in front of our faces (nothing like the pride of having you



r two year old know all the Warner toons by name, and hearing her say "That's Screwy Squirrel" and being right).  A recommendation for WDW with little ones, if you are tired then go on "It's a Small World" (assuming its open).  Its cool, you get to sit down, the kids like it, and often the lines are shorter than other rides, especially late in the day when people are shooting for that last "big" ride.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 "It's not the figures themselves,            Brett Linbo-Terhaar
  it's what you do with them that             linbo@stat.ufl.edu
  matters."
  K.A.C. Manderville
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Looking forward to Spring Break '93.
From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland Update
Date: 11 Oct 1992 10:07:54 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlx.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Oct11.003251.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
> For those who care, weekend attendance is still *very* high.  They
> almost filled the parking lot today, and the park seemed as crowded
> as it does during most of the summer.  Apparantly a lot of locals
> either put off seeing Fantasmic! until the summer crowds were gone, or
> they want to see it again.  

i expect the crowds are due in large part to the vons supermarkets "kids free"
coupons.  if you purchase >$50 at vons, you receive a coupon good
for one free childs admission when an adult admission is purchased.
the coupons must be used by nov 1 (though it may be extended until late
november).  the unpublicized part is that in addition, the coupons are good 
for a $99 room rate at the disneyland hotel.  the hotel discount has definitely
been extended until late november.

by the way, tigger, keep the disneyland updates coming!

-- 
 From the virtual mind of Allyn Fratkin            allyn@sdd.hp.com
                          San Diego Division       - or -
                          Hewlett-Packard Company  uunet!ucsd!hp-sdd!allyn
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Competition for Aladdin?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:02:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39373
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct11.190312.1@alien.gici.com> laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>In article <39214@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>>
>> [11 lines deleted]
>>
>> Babbitt.  Disney, in fact, provided training and inspiration to
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Williams, when he was fifteen, for free.
>                                 ^^^^^^^^
>> 
>
>Did I hear right??   For free?  My, I wonder by how much *that* policy
>has shifted over the years... 
>

Yep, you heard right.  Did I type right? ;-)  Williams even said that,
and I quote, "I drank their blood."  He had a very close association
with Milt Kahl (Pinocchio, Mdm. Medusa, etc.) and Grim Natwick
during the 70's.  He visited the Disney animation studio when he was
15 or 18 (depending on where you read it), which affirmed his
dedication to animation.  Milt Kahl, while he was still with Disney,
even gave lectures to Williams and his associates.  Disney believed
that Williams truly wished to preserve and advance animation as an
art form, so they didn't treat him like competition.  That sounds
*very* "un-Disney," but I've read it in more than one place.

>
>Anyone on the net have a clue as to what Disney does nowadays to "train
>and inspire" young animation hopefuls?   (At the tone, please leave your
>name and number and we'll call you right back...)
>

I think it's the same supervision and nurturing they've been doing
for years.  My impression is that it's sort of like an
apprenticeship in a college-like setting.  There's an internship
program, which I'm not very familiar with, for artists to test the
waters.  None of my information is first-hand, though.

>-- 
>Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
>Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321
>P.O. Box 627
>Muskegon, MI  49440		>> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<


- Robert Cook
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From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Fantasia
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:50:40 GMT

In article DMA@inews.Intel.COM, dmccarro@sedona.intel.com (David McCarroll) writes:
>
>I keep seeing comericals on TV that show the dragon
>breathing fire and setting the River of the Americas 
>on fire. But when I was at Disneyland last month, I 
>didn't see the dragon. Does the dragon really appear?
>Maybe it was just not working the night I was there.

(I think you meant "Fantasmic", not "Fantasia" in the subject line)
Anyway, on September 4th the dragon was there...boy was
he there!  My 5 year old son magnificently stayed awake
until 10:30pm and watched the whole show with total awe
(along with his parents) until it came to the part of the
dragon.  He then turned to me and said "I've seen enough,
let's go" (Translation => "Mom, I'm scared, let's get out
of here NOW!".  Given the crowd at the time I convinced him
to cuddle close and about then Mickey took to the dragon with
his sword and my son was once again enthralled.

Do you mean they had the whole Fantasmic show but not the dragon?
How did it end, then?

---
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Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: maryd@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (M.Dugan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Cost Saving Tips
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:59:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw442x.CI7
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Carol, thanks for the tips.  When we went in May, we had one suitcase
filled with food--we also ate cereal for breakfast in the room.  It
not only saved money, it saved time.  The best tip from you is about
the refrigerators; we just had a small cooler for our milk & replenished
the ice as needed.

Another food that travels well is peanut butter.  We have 2 teens so
we needed lots of snack food.  The grocery store has a super variety
of wholesome lunchbox items for them, like applesauce.  (And Chips 
Deluxe for me!)

I don't think anyone can stress enough that it's a bad idea to count
on buying _anything_ in WDW at a reasonable price, so I second your
recommendation to bring in all the film you can carry, plus aspirin,
plus sunscreen, plus maxi-pads, plus whatever.
From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney-MGM wasting recyclables
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:53:21 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

I'm sure that most of you are aware of Disney's environmental policy.  They
try to prevent all or most pollution, and do try to recycle most things at
their parks.

Recently, I learned that The Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park was in violation
of Disney's own recycling policies!  For about the last year now, Disney-MGM
employees have been throwing away all paper and cardboard products.  And
almost all other recyclables for that matter.  From what I was told,
the person in charge of recycling at that park was even reprimanded for
this.  Hopefully this has changed since then.

Oh, and from what I found out, this was only going on at The Disney-MGM
Studios Theme Park.

Just thought I'd let you all know about this.

John Heiden
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Heiden

                                       Dept. of Computer Services

CSCON134@Uoft02.UTOLEDO.EDU            The University of Toledo
CSCON134@Uoft02.BITNET                 Toledo, Ohio     U.S.A.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: WD Studios merchandise (was: Disney Branson)
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:55:31 PDT

In article <Rich_Koster.0u9d@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US>, Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>
> BTW, I picked up a "Walt Disney Studios"
> license plate at the Disney-MGM Studios last month, and it did
> *not* have MGM or the lion logo on it -- but it did have the
> Mickey clapboard logo.

The "Walt Disney Studios" merchandise promotes exactly what it says it
does, not the Disney-MGM Studios theme park at WDW.  This merchandise
is generally not available at the Disney Stores or just about anywhere
else.  I don't know about the World, but here in California, you can
only get the stuff in one store on Main Street in Disneyland (Disney
Showcase) and in the store at the studio itself in Burbank.

At least that's what I was told when I was trying to find a replacement
for a brightly embroidred white sweatshirt on which I had spilled hot
cocoa.

In my oh-so-humble opinion, the Studios merchandise is often some of
the nicest stuff in the park.  I've gotten a lot of questions about
my sweatshirt, for example, and I've only seen one other outside of
the Disney Showcase store.  Apparantly they were only available for
a short time.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: kolt@quads.uchicago.edu (Matt K/Gonzo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW at New Years
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:29:46 GMT
Reply-To: kolt@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <92283.125230BORNHOEF@NDSUVM1.BITNET> Doris M. Bornhoeft <BORNHOEF@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>I just discovered this list and perfect timing! I'll be at
>WDW 12/31/92 - 1/3/93. I've been to Disneyland but this is
>first time to Florida... has anyone heard about special
>events at WDW during this time? I've called WDW and they
>say to call back in late November... I've heard they have
>extended hours on New Year's Eve but that's about it.
>I'm also wondering about the weather that time of year

We think that it's cold; but it isn't. Lows in the 30s-40s, highs in the 50s to low 60s. 

31Dec is the busiest day of the year. Lots of special things going on.
VERY extended hours.

1 Jan is light, and 2-3 jan are quite dead.

Matt
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From: pm3z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Joseph Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:10:17 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


     I think one of the best parts of the Pirates attraction at DL is
the Blue Bayou - a very unique and enjoyable dining experience.  Also, I
never have liked the way the Pirates ride at the MK ends - you go
through the treasure rooms and then they just dump you off down in the
basement, and you have to walk up a ramp, and you exit through a shop. 
Never have liked that entire aspect of it.
    However, I do like the entire entrance passageway at the Pirates
ride at the MK.  It's really neat how you weave through all the various
rooms at the fort, and then at the end come "outside" of the fort at the
actual loading area.  I just think the entire passageway to the actual
ride does a good job of setting the mood.
    One additional comment - is it just me, or does everyone especially
like the part in both Pirates rides where your boat comes out into a bay
where a firefight it going on between a pirate ship and shore positions
(the part where the cannons are "firing" over you and cannonballs are
splashing into the water all around you)?  I always have liked that part
of it, for some reason.

------------------------------------------------------------
Paul J. Mitchell                  Carnegie Mellon University
pm3z@andrew.cmu.edu                 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
------------------------------------------------------------
"I'm going to Disney World!"
The views expressed are those of the author only.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Subject: Re: Disneyland Update
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:08:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.003251.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>No substantive changes from the last report.  The things that were closed
>are still closed, and nothing new has joined the list.  The painting of
>the Mickey's Toontown exteriors is continuing in earnest, and there is
>some evidence that they have started on the landscaping.  The pit that
>had been dug in front of Small World has been roofed over with concrete,
>forming a nice basement.  The steel superstructure for a single story
>octagonal building about fifty feet across with a peaked roof has been
>raised, partially over the former hole in the ground.  Presumably this
>will be the toy shop that Denise mentioned.  The new building for the
>train station seems to be structurally complete, and work has now moved
>to roofing and the beginnings of painting.
>
>For those who care, weekend attendance is still *very* high.  They
>almost filled the parking lot today, and the park seemed as crowded
>as it does during most of the summer.  Apparantly a lot of locals
>either put off seeing Fantasmic! until the summer crowds were gone, or
>they want to see it again.  The continued heatwaves in the Southern
>California area are probably also a factor.  Unfortunately, the
>Fantasmic! schedule has been reduced from three shows to two, and the
>times have been move up an hour to 8:30pm and 10:00pm.  This means that
>Fantasmic! is still *very* crowded, especially since the Main Street
>Electrical Parade isn't running anymore to help draw some of the crowd.
>
I found out from my boyfriend (who works Jungle Cruise) last night why it is
so busy in the off-season. Von's Supermarket is offering a free pass to
Disneyland for a child with any $25 purchase of groceries.  This pass is
useable on Sundays, so I recommend you stay away on this day!!  Sunday is
usually one of the deadest days at the Park, but not anymore apparently.    ente
Cast Members are calling this "Mi Ho Days" (A HIspanic term of      
endearment for kids).  Between the heat wave and the crwods, he says it's   
hell.  But I'm stuck back in Seattle in 45 degrees, no sympathy!!  By the
way, if any netter goes to Disneyland and rides the Mark Twain or the Jungle
Cruise, or visits the Tiki room, if you see a Cast Member named Cisco, tell
him that Denise says hi...(that's my boyfriend ya know)
-Denise
********
"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all."  -THUMPER

DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: Aladdin Release Date
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:48:31 GMT

This doesn't answer Linda's question, but ALADDIN opens at the
El Capitan theater in Hollywood on Nov. 11th (Veterans Day).
Advance tickets are already available from the box office.
(I got mine ($7.50 apiece) for Friday the 13th.)

They also do credit card sales over the phone, but I have no idea
if they're taking ALADDIN orders over the phone.  If they follow
the same pattern that they did for BEAUTY AND THE BEAST last
year, tickets for the first week of the release will not be
available through credit card sales. The credit card number is:
(213) 757-4PAC.

Seeing a Disney movie at the El Capitan is, btw, a real experience.
Yes, it's in a seedy part of town, and parking is a nightmare
even with the lot behind the theater, but it is wonderful
nonetheless.  The El Capitan used to be the Paramount.  It's
roughly across the street from the Chinese theater.  It's a
big movie palace that's been refurbished to its former splendor.
You not only have a gold-and-crenellated ceiling :-), but you
also get a balconey, THX, a big screen and a stage show before
the movie.

For BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, aside from the concessions
stand, they also had a merchandise stand (soundtrack, stuffed
toys, etc.), and downstairs a display of drawings, script pages,
painted backgrounds and "sells" from the movie, as well as a
running video "making of" clip.  

I believe that Disney owns the El Capitan, and has premiered all
of its movies since THE ROCKETEER there. 

--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
-- 
------------------------|  "Yo, Rug-man!  Haven't seen you in a few millenia!
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |  Give me some tas-*sel*!"
------------------------|                  -- The Genie, ALADDIN.
From: dmccarro@sedona.intel.com (David McCarroll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Fantasia
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:02:57 GMT
Reply-To: dmccarro@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: dmccarro@sedona


I keep seeing comericals on TV that show the dragon
breathing fire and setting the River of the Americas 
on fire. But when I was at Disneyland last month, I 
didn't see the dragon. Does the dragon really appear?
Maybe it was just not working the night I was there.