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From: UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Virgins vs Women
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:22:47 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri

In article <92281.092510U52539@uicvm.uic.edu>
---  BORYS  --- <U52539@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
 
>
>In article <2AD1AEF1.4E66@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda
>L. True) says:
>>
>>In article <92279.172540U18588@uicvm.uic.edu> ---  BORYS  ---
>><U18588@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>>      An interesting tidbit...
>>>
>>>       To the primitive Man,  a female was considered a virgin until
>>>she actually gave birth.  It did not matter how often or how early on she
>>>had sexual intercourse.   This way of thinking that a woman becames
>>>a "woman" is the effect of Judeo-Christian values and morals trying to
>>>curb sexual 'promiscuity'
>>
>>Excuse me? And which primitive man was that? Were you there? Show us
>                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>             "primitive man" as thought of by mythologists  and what
>diffence should there be if I or you were not there?  Shall we end all
>discussions about things we did not personally experience?  These
>conclusions are deductions arrived at through reconstructing and analyzing
>remnants of folklore.
 
His point was that you didnt specify *which* 'primitive' man you were
talking about or how primitive he is. Are you saying theres only *one*
primitive man? Are you saying all primitive men had the same beliefs?
Or that the introduction of christianity affected all primitive men in
same way? I think you ought to think more before you post...
No we shouldnt end all discussion of things we didnt experience first
hand, but a discussion requires more than just a half intelligent blurb
of some over-generalized mis-statement.
 
I dont mean to flame you, Im just asking you to think before you post..
well all benefit from well reasoned discussion  ;)
 
>
>>references, bud. Jeeze, don't make remarks like this without something
>>to back them up. We can suspect that primitive man may not have made
>>the connection between intercourse and childbirth, but we don't know.
>>What primitive man thought is not written down, not anywhere, not by
>>anyone. That's why we call them primitive. They had no past or future
>>beyond tales around the campfire (if that).
>>
>>You vasn't dere, charlie (as my mother would say).
>>--
>>George Bush, the environmentalist: 1000 points of blight.
>>
>>shrdlu@rowan.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True)
>>Work Phone - (310) 812-1660 or (310) 812-1570
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Eaton                    | Opinions? We're not allowed to have
UC525655@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU | opinions at Mizzou... get back to me
                              | in 2 years when I graduate... ;)
From: rissab@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Masque)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Purgatory
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:04:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct9.131947.3884@fwi.uva.nl> harold@fwi.uva.nl (Harold A.J.M. Schellinx) writes:
>
>                       PURGATORY EXISTS !!!!!
>                     ==========================
>
>       A mathematical proof of the existence of Purgatory is
>       claimed by a team of Dutch mathematicians from the Centre
>       for Mathematics and Computer Science and the University of
>       Amsterdam. Their results appear in a monograph entitled
>
>                  "Das Fegefeuer-Theorem"
>                       -------------
>                       DE PURGATORIO

Please don't take this the wrong way, but What's your point????? ( ;) )
In high school we proved using the information given in the Bible that Heaven 
is substantially hotter (200+degrees, if memory serves me) than Hell.
I believe the necessary quotes related to the molten brimstone
in Hell (approx. 244degreesF) and that Heaven recieves the radiation
of 7x7 suns (pretty damn hot ) Any way, some bored scientists did all 
of this a long time ago, because this was 5 years ago for me and I recall the
teacher was reading this information out of a published text.
Any way for one cynics opinion.... None of it means much any way ;)
I do however wish to make the disclaimer that the concept of mathematical 
proof of a _belief_ sounds fascinating!!!


>=============================================================================
>ALL INFORMATION: hees@cwi.nl
>-------------------------------
				---Masque
From: mmussell@fmgu25.intel.com (Morgan Mussell ~)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Merlin and/or Taliesin
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:25:34 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA

>Sometimes Merlin and Taliesin are treated as separate characters, 
>sometimes as the same one, depending on the source.

>Why?  

I don't ever recall seeing the two treated as one.  Which sources do you have
in mind?

Morgan Mussell                  mmussell@mcd.intel.com
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:37:02 GMT
Subject: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.mythology

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From: t00022@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Does anybody know what Tiothvitnir means
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:39:03 GMT
Reply-To: t00022@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

Damn!  Forgot to cite the book that had the info on Thjothvitnir.  Here 'tis:

_ by Henry Adams Bellows.  New York:  ?, 1923.

                                                 Fledermaus
From: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Merlin and/or Taliesin
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1bkq2lINNg4e@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland) writes...
>In article <Bw6B9s.27K@inews.Intel.COM> mmussell@fmgu25.intel.com (Morgan
>Mussell) writes:
> 
>+Either way, I've never come across any hint of an identity between Merlin
>+and Taliesin.
> 
>+Morgan Mussell            mmussell@mcd.intel.com
> 
>I've heard that Taliesin was Merlin's tutor when he was a child. Anyone
>else got anything on this.
> 
>Graeme Sutherland.
>pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk

This was posted (by someone else) to alt.magick recently.  You 
might want to check it out.  I've seen similar references in 
other works on medieval literature.

- Peggy -

*******************************************************************

Oh, I just remembered I have here the Oxford Companion to the Literature of
Wales. Let's see ... okay, the entry for Taliesin says:(late 6th cent.), a
poet named with Aneirin in a famous passage in Nennius's *Historica
Brittonum* which lists the poets who once flourished in the Old North of
Britian. In the *Book of Taliesin* there is a group of twelve poems
believed to represent his authentic work.

Wait -- here's the connection with Merlin: There is other evidence that
Taliesin was featured in stories of a semi-mythical character at an early
date...Between the 11th and 13th centuries T's reputation as an omniscient
prophet appears to have been on the increase, as borne out by a number of
poems foretelling victory against the Saxons, and later the Normans, in
which his name is frequently coupled with that of *Myrddin* to give
authority to the prophecies. Occult knowledge of this kind was an essential
aspect of the omniscience accredited to poets in early Celtic society.

*************************************************************************
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Pharamond?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:40:01 GMT

mimir@stein.u.washington.edu (Al Billings) writes:
>>Any clues?

> You've been reading too many Sandman comics... How's that?

I know, why can't it be like other comics?  One Superman might keep me
busy for ten minutes, but a good Sandman is worth at least a couple
hours. 
-- 
When cigarettes are outlawed, only outlaws will hack up black phlegm.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:06:53 EDT
From: John A. Johnson <J5J@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Destroyers-into-Nothingness

It just occured to me that the concept of a destroyer-into-nothingness
might be an important mythological theme.  This thought occured
as I was watching FernGully with my sons, and the bad guy was Hexxus,
one who destroys and creates nothingness.  Madeleine L'Engle writes
about similar destroyers, the Echthroi, in her children's books.  And
then there is the "Nothingness" from the Neverending Story.

I think the concept of destroyer-into-nothingness is somewhat different from
the destruction-necessary-for-rebirth theme (Siva, winter/spring myths).
Yet I cannot think of anything outside of these three children's stories
(i.e., from classic mythology) that speaks of destroyers-into-nothingness.
Can anyone else?
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:35:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.mythology

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
From: jsikking@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Sisyphus
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:07:47 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University


		I can't remmeber who, but  someone asked for the name 
of the ancient Greek who was attached to the Flaming Wheel.  The name 
is Sisyphus.  I do not remmeber the infraction, but that is the name.  
My source, be ready to winch, Classical Mythology. pg.325.  I forget 
the authors at the moment.  Hop this helps you.  A dictonary could be 
used to look up the sin of the Greek.
-John
From: mmussell@fmgu25.intel.com (Morgan Mussell ~)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Merlin and/or Taliesin
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:29:50 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA


I know of one source that presents Merlin and Taliesin in the same story as
distinct characters, RJ Stewart's translation/commentary on Geoffrey of
Monmouth's 12th c. _Vita Merlini_.  

This text omits the youth of Merlin and begins with his maturity, when as a
Welsh prince, after witnessing a terrible battle, he becomes mad, and runs off
to live as a wild man in a forest.  Throughout, he insistently asks "Why?" for
all the painful realities he has witnessed.  Why should so many good men be
slaughtered?  Why (out in the forest) should there be freezing winter, why not
just summer?  Why should the wolf, his companion in the forest, die of old age
and starvation. And so on...

Toward the end of the tale, "Taliesin the Bard," who is described as being 
under the tutiledge of "the goddess Minerva," shows up to paint a picture of
a vast cosmic order, in which such earthly cycles as the seasons are related
to much larger cycles, akin to the Eastern vision of Creation, Preservation
and Destruction occuring successively across vast spans of time.

I've been fascinated by the mysterious figure of Taliesin for some time, and
I wonder if there aren't "two Taliesins" through the tales.  The first being
a possible historical figure to whom actual poems are attributed, as well as
miraculous legends, such as inspiration from Cerridwen's cauldron, recovery
from Elfin's salmon weir, etc.

The other aspect, suggested maybe by Geoffrey of Monmouth's story, in which
"Taliesin" shows up in the same way "Tiresies (sp?) appears in Greek Tragedy,
not as an individual, but as a more impersonal, and archetypal wise man.

Either way, I've never come across any hint of an identity between Merlin
and Taliesin.

Morgan Mussell            mmussell@mcd.intel.com
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
From: rwbrigg@srv.PacBell.COM (Rick Briggs)
Subject: Re: Mahabharata, translations of...
Reply-To: rwbrigg@srv.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:40:24 GMT

In article 8019@athena.mit.edu, djboccip@athena.mit.edu (Dennis J Boccippio) writes:
>Is anyone aware of any relatively scholarly translations of
>   the Mahabharata, other than the J.A. VanBuitenen set?
>   (The good Prof. Van Buitenen seems to have died shortly
>   after finishing Book 5 and the Bhagavadgita, which is
>   part of Book 6; this leaves 12 more to go...)  I'm 
>   particularly interested in translations which haven't
>   been extensively reworked by various religious sects...
>
>Thanks in advance for any help...
>
>
>			- Dennis
>



I have a twelve-volume translation by Rao which is adequate, but spartan.
There are no notes, virtually no paragraph brakes, and no diacritics
(thus Krshna the male is indistinguashable from Krshnaa the female).
I found it used, and doubt that it is in print.
From: kyle@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Pronouncing Cuchulain??
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:16:25 GMT
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School

Folks,

	I've been reading the "Tain Bo Culgne" and I was wondering if 
anyone knew how to pronounce the name of the hero Cuchulain.  The 
version I'm reading uses german words as examples and since I don't 
speak german......

Thanks in advance,

Kyle@cgsvax.claremont.edu
From: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: Merlin and/or Taliesin
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bw356o.D6B@inews.Intel.COM>, mmussell@fmgu25.intel.com (Morgan Mussell ~) writes...
>>Sometimes Merlin and Taliesin are treated as separate characters, 
>>sometimes as the same one, depending on the source.
> 
>>Why?  
> 
>I don't ever recall seeing the two treated as one.  Which sources do you have
>in mind?
> 
>Morgan Mussell                  mmussell@mcd.intel.com

Try the Oxford Companion to the Literature of Wales.  A good post 
about this was recently made to alt.magick.

I've seen Merlin/Taliesin discussed in other texts on medieval 
literature also.  Sorry I don't recall the titles. 

- Peggy -
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Destroyers-into-Nothingness
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:39:57 GMT

In egyptian mythos i think its SET or osirus .. have to re-read most of my mythos ... 
but one of the 2 believes in total destruction... 
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology
Subject: Re: What was the Apple of Discord?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 21:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
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In-reply-to: santas@inf.ethz.ch's message of Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:46:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.154623.9724@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> santas@inf.ethz.ch (Philip Santas) writes:

   It seems that the whole [Trojan] war starts and ends with
   passionate "romantic" affairs :-)
   (with some nasty events in between).
   Or, as the poet says, it all happend "for an _empty_ shirt"...

``ena poukamiso adheiano'' if I remember correctly.  Keely/Sherrard
translate this as ``an empty tunic''.  But, no fair, how many people
here (1) know Seferis's poetry in general, let alone that poem; and
(2) know the Palinode of Stesichorus?

Explanations forthwith:

Stesichorus was an ancient Greek poet who wrote a poem excoriating
Helen for causing so much trouble.  Since Helen was a demi-god, this
didn't go over too well and he was struck blind for his insolence.  To
make amends, he wrote what is known as the Palinode (roughly,
``retraction song''), which claims that Helen never went to Troy: that
Paris was actually deluded by a phantom and that the real Helen spent
the whole war in Egypt.  George Seferis, a Modern Greek poet of this
century, wrote a poem utilizing Stesichorus' version of the myth.

-30-
Bob

``...that so much youth went into the abyss
  all for an empty tunic
  all for a Helen.''
--
-30-
Bob Ingria
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From: miles@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Derick)
Subject: Re: The store
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.063848.3278@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun) writes:
>
>     Lick'er in the front, poker in the rear!
     Lick'en in the front, fishbreath for a year!
Newsgroups: alt.licker.store,alt.slack,alt.newbie,alt.duh
From: osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska)
Subject: Charter for alt.licker.store
Organization: Springfield Elementary School
Comments: Autopsy is a dying practice
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Ice Cream, Coffee, Cookies, Brownies, Cakes. That's why I created it.
Seriously.  

--
The opinions expressed above are my own, and not necessarily those of UNH.
 Cute signature quote by They Might Be Giants: D, world destruction /
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From: mfc1493@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Frank Caver)
Subject: Re: The store
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:59:06 GMT

(MAC) writes:
>
>Lick 'er?!?!  I don't even know 'er!
But look! She all covered in chocolate!


Ratboy

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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: The store
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 08:02:33 GMT

MAC (mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: 
: 
: Lick 'er?!?!  I don't even know 'er!

!
Isn't that the place where you purchase spirits, on a cold night?

--
------------------------------------
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From: seh@neutron.physics.arizona.edu (Steven E. Hoell)
Newsgroups: alt.licker.store,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: The Truth.
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:21:10 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

Not to worry. There used to be a Tucson bar called "Liquor Where She
Likes It."

(Liquor in front. Poker in the rear...)
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From: umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun)
Subject: Re: The store
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:38:48 GMT


     Lick'er in the front, poker in the rear!




-- 
Brent E. Pistun                                       Computer Engineering
umpistun@CCU.UManitoba.CA                           University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: alt.licker.store,misc.test,talk.bizarre
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Hell, I'm in.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:21:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.043727.12997@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>In article <5322@sumax.seattleu.edu> sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth) writes:
>>So, what do I do now?
>>
>
>Well, now that you asked, hand me that condom and k-y you were issued when
>you came thru the door.  Thanks.  Now, up on the table like a good girl...
>that's it.  This won't hurt a bit, trust me.
Condom? K-Y jelly?  This is the LICK'er store!  Just pass the strawberry
syrup and whipped cream (maybe the whip too--save that for later).

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com  "Do you like our ears and butts better up or down?"


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From: rigler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (80 Hours)
Newsgroups: alt.licker.store,alt.cascade,alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: The store
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:26:24 GMT
Organization: IFA

mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>
>Lick 'er?!?!  I don't even know 'er!
Rectum?!?!  Damn near killed 'um!

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From: ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.licker.store,alt.cascade,alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: The store
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:20:45 GMT
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

In article <1992Oct7.065906.21102@tamsun.tamu.edu> mfc1493@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Frank Caver) writes:
}(MAC) writes:
}>
}>Lick 'er?!?!  I don't even know 'er!
}But look! She all covered in chocolate!
But she's Dead!  Wrapped in plastic!

-- 
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From: miles@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Derick)
Subject: Re: The store
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:27:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.124654.14530@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>
>
>Lick 'er?!?!  I don't even know 'er!
Sitck'er?!?! I can't even fit 'er!



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From: osa@orville.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska)
Subject: The Truth.
Organization: Springfield Elementary School
Comments: Eggheads of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your yoke!
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I know you are going to be terribly disappointed, but The Licker Store
is an ice cream store in Durham, NH.  

And we don't get alt.licker.store in unh.  

--
The opinions expressed above are my own, and not necessarily those of UNH.
 Cute signature quote by They Might Be Giants: D, world destruction /
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