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From: liangh@polka.seas.upenn.edu (Henry "Big Hank" Liang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Alien in STAR TREK XXXX
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:33:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <25JAN199309013989@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca> villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca (EXCUSE ME????) writes:

>How come almost every single alien on the Star Trek series are 
>humanoid.  What makes anyone think that every single life form in the 
>universe has to be a variation of the humanoid form.  I know I'll get 
>lots of mail burning me saying, so and so was a blob or the like, I 
>don't care, the majority of aliens are physically humaniod, (ie, 
>klingons, bjoran(sp?), cardasian(sp?), even the ferengi(sp?), 
>although they are ugly, are humanoid.  
>
>There is the obvious fact that people can relate better to humanoid 
>forms but please, enough is enough, 

Despite the also-obvious fact that it's a lot easier to do humanoids from a
makeup/special effects standpoint, there's this biological phenomenon that
similar environments tend to produce similar lifeforms.

For example, although whales and dolphins are mammals, they look a lot like
fish, since the physiology of fish is best-adapted for survival in a 
waterborne environment.  In Trek, I believe that most intelligent lifeforms
are from Class M planets, most of which are pretty similar in basic
environmental features (climate, flora, fauna, geography, etc.).  I would
imagine that most intelligent life would tend to develop towards a bipedal
tool-using physiology, not unlike us humans.  Of course, you run across the
occasional exception from the norm, like the examples that will no doubt be
raised.

Anyway, I'm not an expert on biology, so don't take me *too* seriously.  I 
base this response purely on my own readings and experiences.  

Live long, prosper . . . all that rot.  :-)
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Henry "Big Hank" Liang
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From: tuc@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Brian A. Cole)
Subject: Re: DeForest Kelley Dead, NOT!
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:07:19 GMT

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
] Good bye, Dee.  You will be missed.  January 14, 1993.

This person is misinformed.  He posted this last week, but sometime
_this_ week I caught the "famous people with birthdays today" part
of Entertainment tonight.  He was one of the people mentioned.
I think he is 73 years old now (but I'm not sure).  They surely
would have mentioned it if he had died, with Mr. Tesh a fan and all.

brian
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From: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Reply-To: jkness@IASTATE.EDU (Joel K Ness)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:06:05 GMT

jackson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Jeff Jackson)writes:
>  In the spirit of the "Best Episode / Worst Episode" series currently
>  running, here are my candidates for the funniest scenes in TNG episodes
>  (awarded Olympic-style).


>  Bronze:  To Data, for the scene in the 'Troi gets hitched' episode (Haven?)

>           That entire dinner scene was wonderfully set up for comic tension,
>           with the butler incessantly ringing the gong, the tension already
>           apparent between the two sets of parents, and Data "circling the
>           room like a buzzard" in Picard's words.
>           And Data's "Would you please continue the petty bickering?  I
>           find it most intriguing" has to be one of the best deadpan lines
>           ever on TNG.
 
>  Silver:  To Picard, for his ode to Lwaxana in the episode where she and
>           Riker are kidnapped by the Ferengi.  It was great to see his
>           wonderful Shakespearean acting talent mixed in with an obvious
>           discomfort, but understanding the need to get her back,


>  But far and away, this one takes the gold:

>  Gold:  To Q, "True-Q" -- Q, in his own special way, lets us know what
>         he thinks of Dr. Crusher without annoying the censors.

>         It was funniest the first time because it was so unexpected.  If
>         I hadn't already been lying down, I'd have been on the floor. 

         "<woof woof woof> (flash) and you stay out of mine."
   - JWJ  "Well, when you put it like that, I think you're absolutely right."
  

I wholeheartedly agree with those.  Beverly Crusher barking was hilarious!
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From: Paul James <prj91@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: UK broadcasts of STTNG
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:44:30 GMT
Originator: prj91@titian


Apologies if this has been aired before but i don't usually read this
group.

Does anyone know when the rest of season 4 will be broadcast in the
UK?

I thought sky would broadcast it (coz they just had Best of Both
worlds), but they have now started at the begining again.

Please email a reply coz i don't usaually read r.a.s.c
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Subject: Future STNG & DS9 episodes
From: cvalj005@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Ken Cross)
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:44:28 PST
Organization: Cal Poly, Pomona Geography
Nntp-Posting-User: cvalj001



Greetings to all Star Trek fans,
  I'm new to the E-Mail system and I have some interesting news to everyone. I
also belong to another modem service based exclusively in California. It is
called Modem Butterfly. Last weekend I was scrolling through the Star Trek talk
and I came across one note that talked of future Star Trek Episodes. So when I
went in to read the letter, I found out that this guy has a friend who is a
writer for STNG. Here is what he claims are the next episodes in chronological
order. They sound logical so I suppose they are true but I'm not positive. Here
is the compiled list:

        Star Trek: The next generation future episodes
Ship in a Bottle- this episode aired monday
Aquiel- Geordi supposedly falls in love with an alien.
Face of the enemy- Counselor Troi has her face altered to look like a Romulan.
Tapestry- Q takes Capt. Picard back to his academy days.
Birthright I & II- Might possibly be about Lt. Worf and his father.

        Star Trek: Deep Space Nine future episodes
Babel- this episode aired tuesday.
Captive pursuits- ?
Q-Less- ?
Dax- ?
The Passenger- ?
Sore Losers- ?

Stay tuned the next few days for a poem I also heard called "Twas the night
before Christmas"- Q's version. I'm sure that you all will enjoy it I laughed
so hard I fell out of my chair. If you have any other questions, please send me
a post. Later. 
-- 
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Ken Cross, Senior, Geography with Spatial Information Systems option
Email: cvalj005@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu
Phone: (714) 869-3590
From: ch134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michelle Guydosh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: People who like Kira
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:33:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Put me on the list of people who like Kira.  I don't think I'd watch if
if they got rid of her (or /and Dr. Bashir).
I'd like to see her get involved on one episode in which we get to find
out more on the background of this character.
And one question...Where do they film deep space nine?
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: DS9 Grade Report: "A Man Alone"
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:22:07 GMT

In <HMORAN.93Jan25103538@nswc-wo.?> hmoran@nswc-wo.? (Howard Moran) writes:
>In article <rawdon.727919914@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>   Certainly, "A Man Alone" had its problems.  For instance, the cloning
>   premise ran afoul of the usual problems that SF TV has with clones - why
>   would they be created fully-grown, and why would they have any memories or
>   personality when created?  (Ibudan's murdered clone didn't look like a
>   gibbering idiot, after all.)

>As for the memories/personality/gibbering idiot - we only saw the clone in
>the holoroom for a moment or so and all that was seen was a presumptive male
>adult experiencing the pleasure of a massage; no memories or personality was
>needed here, only the basic pleasure/pain response set we (and Bajorans) are
>born with.  Essentially, we might be seeing Ibudan kill...a child!

But this doesn't work, because Odo would have had to have GOTTEN the clone
there first.  If the clone were really essentially a newborn, it wouldn't have
been able to walk or talk, and, heck, probably would have cried when it got
hungry.  A rather conspicuous thing (when full-grown) to lug through the space
station into a holochamber.

>   [Odo] because when the mob was after him, he didn't fight: He ran to his
>   quarters.  Clearly he's not as powerful - in some sense - as we might have
>   thought.  Odo continues to be the most intriguing character among the
>   cast.

>Got a question/thought - we know that Odo can morph rather quickly (the first
>time we see this in "Emissary" he's morphed to allow a weapon/fist to pass
>through his head.) so - what does Odo have to fear from a mob?  He can morph
>to evade physical violence or to escape through a grating or...  See?

Possibly; we don't really know yet.  His gelatinous form might still be solid
enough to grab if someone acted fast enough.  If they were able to yank him
out and toss him on the floor and start stomping on him, that might hurt!

Maybe we'll find out eventually.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

    "What about you, Captain?" Krill asked.  "Do you seek death, or do you
run away from it?
    "Neither," Kiroth answered.  "Death seeks me.  It will find me in time.  
To run is simply a waste of energy.  To embrace death is sheer madness.  I 
await death.  When it comes, I will be ready."
    "To fight, or to flee?"
    Kiroth looked at his XO with barely contained horror.  "To die."
		- "Escape From The Holdfast", by Jim Hart; Captain's Log #8
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From: malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo)
Subject: DSN:Man Alone - *MINOR SPOILER* Was that who I think it was? 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:10:22 GMT


Was the person that played the murderer in disguise Sean Connery?

Someone please look back at a tape... I know that it wasn't in the credits
but I was POSITIVE that it was him (pay special attention to the confrontation
that is the best view...)

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From: jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart question
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:07:14 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

No, Patrick Stewart is NOT gay!!!

And this is coming from someone who sometimes wished he were :)



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From: aewright@unix.amherst.edu (Anthony E. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Babel - DS9's overlooked solution
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:36:36 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

David Toland (det@sw.stratus.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan25.174035.21198@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, gvelden@ccs.northeastern.edu (George E Van Dervelden) writes:
> I find it a little strange that the station had so much trouble with the
> virus. So the virus generator bypassed the replicator's biofilter. Just put
> the person that is infected, in the transporter and then that biofilter would
> filter out the virus. Everyone would be back to normal. For the time being
> anyway.
: 
: Neat and simple.  The only justification I can come up with as to why they
: didn't is that maybe Cardassian transporters don't have biofilters. 

Actually, this solves two continuity problems. We've been wondering why
Dax, a Trill, was able to transport in "Emissary," since our first encounter
with the Trill not to long ago on the Enterprise informed us that Trills would
dies being transported, since the transporter would detect the slug as a common
parasite.
						Peace,
						Anthony
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From: albrecht@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (ALBRECHT CC - COMP. SCIENCE)
Subject: Re: Stewart's/Picard's accent
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:20:34 GMT

In article <MOCM.93Jan27152412@sun7.thp.uni-koeln.de> mocm@thp.uni-koeln.de (Marcus Metzler) writes:
>I think the French language has to be dead in the 24th century, because
>otherwise Picard would be able to pronounce his own name correctly.
>Since neither he nor any of his crewmember are able to do this (not even
>Data, it is conceivable that ( like Latin which is certainly not pronounced 
>in the way Julius Caesar did it) the language is dead.
>
>Picard should be prounced with a silent "d" (like Picar ).
>As to Jean-Luc : 
>Well the Jean is no problem , but the Luc certainly doesn't sound like "Luke".
>Since there is no sound like the French u in the English language I can't
>really dicribe the pronounciation.
>
Many people who don't speak a particular language, pronounce a name from
that language according to the pronunciation rules of their own language.
Living in Canada, a bilingual country, I see it everyday - when anglophone 
newscasters say the name of a francophone government official, for example.
Or french 'casters saying anglo names. And then you have the people who are
fluent in another language and accept the mispronucioation of their name, and
those who go even as far as doing such themselves in that language.
Could that not be the case with Picard?


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albrecht@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
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From: ghayden@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory K. Hayden)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:35:53 GMT

  My favorite one liners still come from an earlier Q episode.  Funny how
  every time Q shows up, the ol' Star Trek humor shows thru :-)  All the
  Trekkers out there will have to forgive me, I don't remember the title.
  ( OH, the SHAME!! ;-)   Possible Deja' Q ?

   Q to Riker, "You wern't so stuffy before the beard."

   Q to Worf, "Ah, Worf.  Eat any good books lately?"

                                                  Be Seeing You,
                                                      Greg (IDIC)
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cheaper Star Trek VI?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1335@xlnt.COM>, david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes...
>In article <93Jan20.001859.39975@acs.ucalgary.ca>, barker@eneli (Scott Barker) writes:
>|> In article <1993Jan14.200439.28597@cs.hope.edu>, jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike
>|> Jipping) says:
>|> >The STVI video is REAL expensive -- $89 or something.  Does anyone know
>|> >if this will ever be reissued cheaper?  The others can be had for a
>|> >cheaper price...
>|> 
>|> As soon as sales of the video drop, the price will be lowered. This is a
>|> typical ploy of video companies: release the video at a hugely inflated price,
>|> wait for the Video Rental Stores to buy it (they pretty much have to, or their
>|> customers will be unhappy), and wait for the die hard video collectors to buy
>|> it. Once the video sales go down, the company knows that they have sold the
>|> overpriced version to as many people as they can, and they lower the price
>|> shortly afterwards, usually in time for a holiday.
> 
>I see nothing wrong with that.  That is our free market system at work.
>It is not like you owning a particular video is necessary for life.
>I only object to such practices for things which people must either buy
>or die.

     Of course, you could just tape it off HBO this month... or would
     that be too easy?  [Either way, both the video and cable prints
     include those precious extra few minutes that should have been
     left on the cutting room floor].

     Scott Gorcey
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (the trek witch)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "A Man Alone"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:37:23 GMT

In <C1FH24.1no@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:


>Timothy W. Lynch (tlynch@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
>>WARNING:  The following post contains spoiler information regarding this
>>week's DS9 offering, "A Man Alone".  ...
>
>>-- I'm trying to figure out how the cloning issue here fits in with "Up the
>>Long Ladder".  Given that in UtLL, clones were seen as an unworkable way of
>>running a society, I wonder why it's still being looked into here.  My guess
>>is that the clone of Ibudan we last saw in the vat would be a very
>>short-lived fellow (perhaps on a scale of days or weeks) -- but if so, why
>>wouldn't Bashir mention it?

>Indeed,
>the only reason this clone's life would be shorter is because the clone
>will probably be 30+ years old, as the original was.

Actually, I was wondering why the clone came up full blown grown rather
than as a baby?  Or were these DNA supposed to be further modified
to result in a full-grown body?  It was the fishiest part of the whole
episode...

--the trek witch


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From: jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: BABEL
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:43:07 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <16957.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) writes:
>ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:
>
>-> I was just wondering, if the Episode entitled "Babel" named that
>-> because of the babel fish in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
>
>I doubt it. More like it has some reference to the TOS episode, Journey
>to Babel.



Did it ever occur to you that the Babel reference might be to the 
biblical Babel?


Oops, I guess that sounded a bit theo-centric.  I don't mean to sound
so matter-of-fact about this, but I always figured it was a fairly
common story.  The Tower of Babel was a structure built by the I-don't-
know-whoians to reach God.  God punished man his egocentricity by
scrambling the language of the workers into countless different   
languages, making it impossible for them to work together on the Tower.




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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Colonel Wes(t) == Odo ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:08:41 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I just watched ST VI - The Undiscovered Country (again) on HBO.
So the question is:  "Is Colonel Wes(t) played by Rene
what-his-face, the guy that plays Odo on ST:DSN?"  It really
looks like him (the eyes) and like the dude from Benson.  However,
he is not mentioned in the credits (nor was Colonel Wes).

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: drew@deathstar.dell.com (Drew Stephens)
Subject: Re: The Final Star Trek Movie?
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:18:03 GMT

dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <drew.727541274@deathstar> drew@deathstar.dell.com (Drew Stephens) writes:
>>ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch) writes:
>>
>>>In <1993Jan9.220907.13022@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jmitten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James A Mitten) writes:
>>
>>>> The final one, huh?  That can call it
>>>> *** Star Trek VII: The Final Chapter -- Part III ***
>>>> since part V and VI were also said to be the final movies.
>>
>>>>My vote goes to........ STAR TREK VII: THE SENIOR TOUR
>>
>>
>>>>or how about: Star Trek VII:  Warping With the Oldies?
>>
>>
>>>Star Trek VII:  The Apology!
>>
>>Star Trek VII: Eh?

>Star Trek VII: Ya know back in my day, we didn't have no "Hall-ow-deck"!
>               We just had a cold, dusty Rec Deck, and we *liked* it, by
>               gum, we LOVED it!


Star Trek VII: Read my lips! No more movies!
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From: prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU ()
Subject: Re: Rating of women on ST/ST:TNG/ DS9
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:25:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.030640.17766@news.uakron.edu> dskowron@serj.polymer.uakron.edu (Daniel Skowronski) writes:
>With 10 being the sexist being to grace the screen, I rank
> 

 Dr. Crusher....11.0

>Tasha Yar......10.0
>Ensign Ro......8.5
>Kira ..........7.0
>Dax............6.5
>Troi...........5.0
>Horta(Silicon based life form)...0.1
>Harry Mudd's Wife.....0.0
>
>

:)
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Is Odo the guy from Benson?
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:45:46 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

No.  It's Majel Barett in anti-drag.

Dave "no, I'm not going to put a smiley on this" Schaumann
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