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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:13:00 EST
From:         PSICILIA@DREW.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Poor losers!
Comments: To: politics@ohstvma.bitnet

>>        I am sick and tired of hearing about Iran-Contra.
>
>
>That doesn't mean it never happened - or that it wasn't illegal - I'm sure
>some people are tired of hearing of many of the Reagan/Bush "...gates" -
>we still need the truth!
ent until proven guilty, and no
one has been proven guilty yet, have they?
one has been proven guilty yet, have they?


>>agrees that BUSH DID NOT KNOW, was the illegal part.  You cannot say
>>that you know exactly what every president and VP has done concernig
>>foreign policy.  Even Kennedy did things in secret.
>
>
>Oops!  History Czar, where are you?  Isn't this yet another violation?
>Sorry to be such a gadfly - I'm tired of hearing someone "argue" with
>history as their "ammo" - especially when they misfire!

        Again, you just seem to miss the point, and to prove your it,
you resort to name calling.  The point is that Bush did nothing
illegal, and just because it was done in secret does not mean it was
illegal.  Furthermore, it is interesting that you deleted the portions
in which I prove what Bush knew was not the illegal activities.  The
Kennedy comment was to you liberals who continously call us
Republicans a group of fascists with secret dealings everywhere.
        Maybe you should read more closely.  How is my comment about
Kennedy used as "ammo"?  I made my case pretty clear in the deleted
sections.

>
>>        My point is that this Iran/Contra business has been a waste of
>>time and money.  It was a Democratic attempt to nail someone in the
>>Reagan administration and it has not worked.  Liberals will not be
>>able to use Iran/Contra forever, so they better start talking some
>>issues, that America cares about.  Bush should end this entire episode
>>by pardoning Casper Weinberger (if he is set free, Iran/Contra is
>>dead).  What does he have to lose.
>
>Yes, Republicans ARE fond of pardoning their own white-collar criminals,
>aren't they?
>
        Name me one white collar criminal pardoned by President Reagan
or President Bush??????????   Weinberger should be pardoned because
this investigation is wasteing tax payer dollars.  I guarantee that if
this case goes to trial, that Weinberger will be found innocent.

>Paul, earlier you said that there was NO ILLEGAL activity concerning Iran-
>Contra because there had been no successful prosectutions...now you say Bush
>should pardon Weinberger...does that mean that you acknowledge the illegality
>of the crime?  Or does that mean that you think some sort of Liberal/Democratic
>plot has unfairly indicted Mr. Weinberger, and to rectify a possible plot-
>induced sentence. Mr. Bush should pardon Mr. Weinberger?  What DOES that mean?
>
        Just because somebody is pardoned, does not mean that they are
guilty.  As a said, it is a waste of our money, and I almost positive
that this has been a Democratic plot to undermine the Reagan
presidency.

>>P.S. I wonder if the special prosecutor will ever be used against
>>President Clinton or that Democratic Congress.
>
>No, I think it's safe to say that the special prosecutors are for your basic
>Nixon/Reagan/Bush flavor criminal politician.
>
>        rough offense.  Also- Who is now bringing up historical tty
serious ofense.

        Now who is bringing up historical facts.  Just because you
preceive Nixon/Reagan/Bush to be criminals, does that mean all
Republicans are criminals, and the Weinberger is guilty.  Just
wondering.

        -Paul