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From: vincent@lagrange (Mark Vincent)
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Loui
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:53:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins
Keywords: McCray

In article <BzGtK3.MBJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>
>>ray.horton@tfd.gwinnett.com (Ray Horton)  writes:
>>>Here's a not-so-trivial trivia question about Louisville: 
>>>Name the single player who was on all three of the 1980, '82, and '83 
>>>U of L final four teams?
>
>>	Here's my shot -- what about Scooter McCray?
>
>	Actually, now that I think about it... what about Rodney McCray also?
>	If I remember correctly, he was a freshman on the '80 team.
>
>	Jazzy J

Forgive me if my memory is faulty (which is probably a good bet right now,
with a stack of ungraded finals still staring me down), but were both 
McCrays freshmen in the 1979-1980 season?  I thought that Rodney McCray
was a freshman and Scooter a sophomore, or vice versa.

Another village heard from . . . .

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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: Basketball lovers dreamland
Organization: ^$
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:09:59 GMT

In article <1gg9k8INN8oa@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>Someone take a look at next Saturday and tell me I'm not dreaming.  Basketball
>starts at 12:30AM Eastern, and proceeds until about 2AM Sunday! 
>
>Louisville at Georgia Tech
>UCLA at Georgia
>Cincinnati at Indiana
>Iowa St at Michigan
>Ohio ST at West Virginia
>Texas at Utah

 Don't forget the Maui Classic on ESPN, with LSU-Stanford and Duke-Depaul.

>
>Not only that, but if they games get too boring, there's 2 NBA games, WGN
>Bulls vs 76ers and TNT Orlando vs Hawks.  Gotta love it!
>
>Mike
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Louisville
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:22:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <38.149.uupcb@tfd.gwinnett.com> gil.levitch@tfd.gwinnett.com (Gil Levitch) writes:
>
>Matthew Merzbacher writes:
>MM>There have been numerous arguments about how Denny Crum has not adjusted
>MM>to the three-point shot.  Personally, I'd give the guy a few more years
>MM>before writing him off.
>
>Dick Vitale said after the UL-KY game that U of L WILL win another NCAA
>championship in the 90's. Knowing what Denny has coming in next year I
>believe Mr. Vitale.

Considering Vitale's wonderful track record, I'd be really worried after
hearing him say this.   :-)

Lots of teams get tons of talent without doing well.  Louisville is 
absolutely loaded, and will be bringing in lots more.  Only time will
tell.

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: State Fossils
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:26:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <Bz5yCG.Coz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers) writes:
>jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>>Actually, he came more from the lowlands (relatively speaking) of New 
>>Mexico, from New Mexico State which is in Las Cruces, didn't he?

>Lou Henson is originally from Oklahoma and played college ball at
>New Mexico State. He was also a grad. assistant for 2 years there.
>
>Henson coached at Los Cruces high school, which won 3 straight state
>championships. His next job was at Hardin-Simmons College
>and he improved their program, posting several 20 win seasons.
>
>Henson took the head coaching job at NMSU inhereting a 4-22 team. The
>next year they went 15-11 and made the NCAA tourney.  His teams made 6
>...

Thanks for the info.

>is the most the Big 10.  (and without unjust sanctions it would have been
>10) He is one of 9 coaches to lead two different schools to Final Fours.
>He currently has 594 wins, and is still (I think) 4th on the active wins
>list behind Smith, Haskins and Driesell.   When he had 535 he was 19th on
>the all time wins list, must be better than that now.

My 1993 NCAA Basketball record book, which shows records prior to the 
start of this season, shows Henson is 24th in winning percentage among 
active coaches (who've had at least 5 years experience as head coach), 
and 5th on the total victories list (again, prior to the start of this 
season), with 590 wins, after UNC's Dean Smith, UTEP's Don Haskins, James 
Madison's Lefty Drisell, and Missouri's Norm Stewart.  Henson almost 
certainly is in 4th place now - hasn't Illinois has played and won more 
games at this point of the season than Missouri?!

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From: 16rtaylor@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Ricky Taylor)
Subject: Re: The University of Richmod Spiders
Organization: Gallaudet U.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.215315.3916@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, howiegbk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jr Howard Mea Turner) writes:
> In article <1992Dec17.204703.20210@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 
>>in the first round of the ACC tourney (if I remember correctly), and
>>they lost in either the first or second round of the NCAA's.  That may
>>have been the year that they lost to their nemesis, the Richmond
>>Spiders.
>>- Dallas
> 
> 	Ummmm . . . bit of advice.  NEVER EVER BET AGAINST THE UR SPIDERS
> in the first round of the NCAA tourney.  Ask Bob Knight.  Ask Syracuse.  Ask
> Bobby Cremins.  John Chaney got a hell of a scare once, too.
> 
> 	If Dick Tarrant had Dean Smith's bench - he'd win the NCAA.  End
> of story.
> 
> Desperately awaiting March Madness,
> Howard

	The University of Richmond Spiders are 4-0 as of now.  With Chris 
Fleming, they're threatening to return to the dance.  

	The CAA Conference hasn't gotten some recognition in any polls this year
and they upset several Top-25 teams but never got a chance to sit down in the 
Top 25 for a week or so?

Ricky
> 
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Kentucky MASH'ed Louisville
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:23:01 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Jeffrey N. Burch writes:
>
>Lots of teams get tons of talent without doing well.  Louisville is 
>absolutely loaded, and will be bringing in lots more.  Only time will
>tell.

I don't think UL is loaded: they have 3 players who are typical of
UL talent in the past: Morton, Minor, and Rozier. And they have 4
players whose performance at the major college level is a tribute
to Denny Crum's ability to coach the game of basketball: Brewer,
LeGree, Smith, and Hopgood. I have no knock on Crum's abilities,
the discipline of his team, or his style of basketball. I think,
though, that Crum has lost a little bit of the old lockjaw frenzy
when it comes to wooing the typical hormone case to come and play
at the old U. He has the comfort of a million dollar bonus just
waiting for him whenever he wants to change from loafers to golf
cleats or whatever the h*** it is he does to anesthetize his time
away from bball. 

As for Crum's methods being inferior, he has very simple team
rules: go to class and show up at practice. He never screams.
He treats his charges like adults. He doesn't attempt to strait
jacket their play or their lives. Who would you rather play
for? Besides, there at the UL campus you get to see one of the
2 Rodin supervised copies of The Thinker.
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From: foerster@batgirl.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Recruiting - Ohio Valley
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:12:24 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC


Lorenzo Coleman           7-1  C   Decatur, GA                   Tennessee Tech
Colby Pierce              6-1  PG  St. Louis, MO                 Austin Peay
Mike Scrogham             6-7  PF  Bardstown, KY                 Morehead State
Wyki Tyson                6-7  PF  Troy, MI                      Eastern Kentucky
Danny Wingate             6-5  G/F Wooster, OH                   Tennessee-Martin
Steven Wright             6-7  PF  Brookfield, WI                Tennessee-Martin

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Michigan doesn't play as a team
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:32:11 GMT

In article <kitchel.724364652@manta> kitchel@manta.dpsi.com (Sidney W. Kitchel)  
writes:

> (One can only imagine what Johnny Orr could do with this cast of players!)
> 
> 						--Sid

Probably get a lot of thank you notes from NBA Agents...

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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Dream Game - Biggest Rivalry?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 18:14:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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North Carolina and Duke fans will say theirs is better, but those teams play
what, 7 or 8 times a year?  Gets boring after about the 5th game. ;-)

This Dream Game series is darned emotional, especially with the fans.  UL
fans tell the players "Win this one and we'll forgive you for anything you
do the rest of the season" ;)  I doubt if Rhodes and the other freshman can
have any idea what they're getting into here, but I'm sure they'll find out
after they get laid on their butts the first time. ;)

Being a fan of both teams, this game is particularly bad for me.  I hate to
see my favorite players beating up my favorite players.  ;)

We'll know in a few hours...

Mike
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From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Re: Ohio State...
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:21:30


Lawrence Colucci writes:

> The Buckeyes continue a perfect opening of their season (3/3) with
> a win against Bowling Green.  Lawrence Funderburke had a career game
> with 25 points, six blocks and 9-10 rebounds.  Greg Simpson had his
> best game, getting 12 points in about 15 minutes of PT.  All of the
> players from the bench got into the game, including Eaker and Wilborne

I thought Eaker was going to red-shirt.  Has he changed his mind?

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From: paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Paul)
Subject: Re: Hurley
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:50:45 GMT

In article <156@psipost.UUCP> rich@psipost.UUCP (Rich Main) writes:
>In article <matthew.724293377@base.cs.ucla.edu>, matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>> 
>> There are two things that strike me about Hurley's shooting:
>> 
>>   1. While he hits the 3 reasonably consistently, it is seldom from further
>>      than 20'
>
>Tell me, why should he shoot from further out when it's still only
>worth 3 points???  He's not playing pro ball yet, so why bother to
>shoot a longer shot in a game situation?  Of course, if you watched the
>Michigan game, you saw Hurley stop and pop a three from WELL outside
>the line, certainly an NBA three pointer (not the smartest shot, but it
>fell).

   Can someone tell me if he's put some variety into his 3pt shot?  For
most of the past three seasons it seems like 80+% of his 3pt shots are 
from the top of the key.  Has he adjusted to shooting better from the
sidelines?



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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Hurley
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:19:28 GMT

Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:

>Does Hurley remind anyone of Mark Price, and how do they compare?

	Not really.  When I think of Mark Price, I think dead-eye outside
	shooting and 3-pters.  That's certainly not Hurley.
	Hurley is great ball-handling and finding the open man.

	Jazzy 
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Posting players' email addresses, was Re: Chris Webber
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:05:51 GMT

In article 8829@ms.uky.edu, morgan@engr.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
>|dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) wrote:
>|>daveyang@next08cville.wam.umd.edu (God'sservant) writes:
>|>>
>|>>Chris Webber's E-mail address: [deleted]
>|>
>|>Most ball players don't use their accounts, but...
>|>
>|>[ucs.indiana.edu] [player addresses deleted]
>|
>|Before this generates a flood of similar postings, let's take a step back and
>|think about what we're doing.
>|
>|These folks are busy enough without dealing with floods of email.  Isn't it
>|enough that they have to deal with the media?  Before you post the email
>|address of your favorite player, ask yourself if they would WANT it publi-
>|cized.
>|
>|Major college athletes have little privacy, and their academic grind is
>|<hopefully> worse than most (due to the time/travel requirements of ath-
>|letics).  Let's not create another "avenue of approach" for them, eh?
>|
>|Think of it this way: Do you *really* want some of the woofers of this
>|newsgroup to mailbomb your favorite athletes? 8)
>|
>|--Mr. Polite 
>|
>|ps> Of course, coaches are another matter entirely........8)
>|
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Well, in the case of volleyball, I know it isn't as popular a sport as 
basketball, we have Dan Hanan, who is on the US National team.  He not 
only hand out his email address readily, but he posts in the newsgroup.  
He keeps us up to date on the team and he tries to give us an idea as 
to what kind of training they go through. A really great way of promoting 
your sport.  Sort of like having Laettner posting on r.s.b.c during the 
season last year.



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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Is Laettner gay?
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:45:03 GMT
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath

(Ken) writes:
>Does anyone have any info about former Duke b-ball player Christian
>Laettner?
>I heard that he was gay.  True or not?
>Thanks for the information.

You people at Michigan don't have too much respect for privacy, do you?

First one of you posts Chris Webber's email address; now this "Ken"
person (clever enough to erase his/her own email address, but
according to the message ID, from umich.edu) asks about Laettner's
private life.

This newgroup is for dicussions of COLLEGE BASKETBALL, not "lifestyles
of former college basketball players.  So I think that you should take
your question somewhere else.  Maybe there's a newsgroup called
alt.michigan.national-enquirer?


--Gidi
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From: foerster@batgirl.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Recruiting - MAC
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 21:18:23 GMT
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC


Chad Allen                6-11 C   Levittsburg, OH               Miami-Ohio
D.J. Bosse                6-8  PF  Cincinnati, OH                Kent State
Brook Bright              6-10 C/F Meadville, PA                 Kent State
Tyler Brown               6-3  2G  Bronx, NY                     Bowling Green
Joel Burns                6-3  2G  Racine, WI                    Western Michigan
Damien Delts              6-7  PF  Pittsburgh, PA                Ohio University
Geno Ford                 5-9  PG  Cambridge, OH                 Ohio University
Jermaine Henderson(#146)  6-3  2G  Columbus, OH                  Miami-Ohio
Kevin Johnson             6-8  PF  Columbus, OH                  Akron
Jay Larranga              6-5  G/F Toledo, OH                    Bowling Green
Shedrick Murrell          6-2  2G  Saginaw, MI                   Ball State
Ronnell Williams          6-6  WF  Cincinnati, OH                Ohio University
Randy Zachary(#148)       5-9  PG  Anderson, IN                  Ball State

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From: hsong%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hwal Song)
Subject: Re: Michigan State 78  Stetson 59  
Date: 13 Dec 92 04:32:13 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec12.162641.10099@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall) writes:
>
>The Michigan State Spartans defeated the Stetson Hatters last night in the
>first round of the L.A. Classic - by a score of 78-59.  The Spartans played
>  .... deleted
>The Spartans were paced by a monster game by 6'11" Mike Peplowski who netted
>34 points to go with 15 boards.  Guards Shawn Respert and Eric Snow (8 pts
>
>Peplowski has boosted his season totals to 19.3 ppg and 13.3 rpg.  Respert
>is averaging over 25 ppg.
>
Well, I've been missing a lot of actions by MSU ever since I moved to Utah.
It seems that Peplowski plays well against weak teams but when MSU
needed big plays against good teams, he is missing in action.
Am I generally right? Just curious.
Also, is he expected to be drafted by any NBA team and how long would he
survive if he is picked?
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Subject: Re: Best Maryland BBall players
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:15:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.050150.17448@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
(MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN) writes:
>I will take votes between now and December 16 and post the results by the 20th
>of December for the all time maryland greats.  Also, for convinence I'll count

My votes:

PG: John Lucas
2G: Walt Williams
SF: Len Bias
PF: Tom McMillen
C:  Len Elmore

Coach: "Lefty" (I think Williams is a better coach, and a better human.
However, "Lefty" brought big-time b-ball to Maryland and the DC area; he
deserves a lot of credit for that! On the other hand, I' glad he's at JMadison
now!)

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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Defending Louisville...
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:20:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Since I seem to be the only UofL fan stupid enough to still be posting, ;)
I might as well make some attempt at defending my team.  Well.

Let's face it, Louisville got beat, bad.  I'd like to think it is a bit less
of a total destruction of the program and affirmation of Denny Crum's
pathetic coaching ability.  Here are a few reasons I see for the major
annihilation that took place (READ: Excuses) ;)

1) Coming off mentally draining loss to Vandy
2) Only 3rd real game of season against a tough opponent (All 3 have been
pretty strong, IMHO)
3) In the middle of finals week.  In fact, some players had finals the
morning of the game (It sounds lame, but this IS an excuses letter; also, I'm
always drained myself after those darned tests) ;)
4) Crum's offense/defense takes time to learn, which is why Louisville always
plays better at the end of the season (Who wants to win early, anyway?)
5) Crum tanked another one to get his team's attention (We all know he does
this).

Should Denny Crum be fired?  No.  The great success he has given UofL over
the years deserves him a few more chances to get back to higher levels.

Is Cliff Rozier a head case?  Hard to be sure at this point.  If he fails
to correct his behavior by midseason we can give a more difinitive answer.
Until then, mark it up to inexperience and being over-anxious.

Is this Louisville team pathetic?  They lost by a large margin to a better
team.  This doesn't mean UofL is a bad team, but they have a ways to go to
reach their potential.  I'm sure they'll be competitive by season's end
(Especially if they keep playing teams of this caliber, they can only get
better).

Sorry for all the pathetic whinin excuses, but someone had to take up for
UofL. ;)

Mike
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