From: weigand@strawberry.cns.udel.edu (Steve Weigand)
Subject: Re: George A. Dillman?
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:30:55 GMT

In article <memo.758220@cix.compulink.co.uk> bburgar@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>Steve Weigand (weigand@banana.cns.udel.edu) writes
>>I've been reading a lot about a karate instructor named George Dillman
>>in some of those cheezy karate/kf magazines. He has a series of video
>>tapes about how to apply pressure points into fighting - a subject that
>>continues to interest me.
>>Thanks,
>> - Steve Weigand
>>  (weigand@ee.udel.edu)
>
>Yes, I've trained on one of his seminars and I have seen the first
>6 vidoes. He is for real and is worth visiting. The people he knocks
>out are really out and not all of the knockouts are on the neck. The
>arm ko's are most impressive as far as I am concerned.
>
>One word of warning - be very careful in practicing these techniques
>as nobody really knows how or why they work (although some people think
>they have a good idea). The reason that they were put into Kata in
>the first place was to allow safe practice. From the weekend my right
>arm is tingling and numb on and off (especially when I type - this post
>is killing me!) It is supposed to go away after a few days, I hope it does!
>
>Take care.
>Bill Burgar.

A quick question on being knocked out by the pressure point strikes...
How much force was used to attack the points? Was it just his finger 
on the skin of outside the point and then he pressed in with a lot of 
force, or was it that the strike came from far away (like a punch) and
hit you? Or none of the above? 

I've done a hell of a lot of research on the subject by now. I've read a
lot of texts about this subject, and I've asked a lot of people a lot
of questions about it. Still, I haven't been able to knock someone out
with it. I have a pretty good idea how to do it, but I guess I haven't
really had the chance to practice it. (Nobody seems to want to be my
training partner -- wonder why?)

From my research, I've understand that striking on the points is 
considered very dangerous. When you strike a point, you are not only
just striking a nerve, you're effecting actual physical changes in the
organs that the meridian you are hitting on goes through. In other
words, if you attack the large intestine meridian along 3 points, you
could shut down the person's large intestine... he could die. So it
really behooves one to learn about chi flow and meridians, (the 
zhang fu organs of Chinese medicine), before striking aimlessly. I
think the best place to start is with acupuncture. 

But I do want to say that one thing I am pretty sure about is that 
striking on the points is VERY BAD. Lord knows what kind of damage is
being done when that happens, especially if the organs that the 
meridian travels through is relatively week or already sick. For 
instance, the arm has the heart meridian running through it on the
inside of the arm. There is a couple pressure points on the heart
meridian in the arm. If I struck them, one after the other, and then
I struck a 3rd point on the chest (above the nipple), which is on the
heart meridian, then look out! Not only can you suffer a black-out,
but if you have a bad heart to begin with, you may find yourself having
a heart collapse within a day or so. So it's very nasty to be playing
with these things without knowledge of where one is hitting.

Any comments?

Thanks, 
 - Steve Weigand
  (weigand@ee.udel.edu)

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA