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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 21:08:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.204157.20452@unocal.com>, gary@st.unocal.com (Gary Cattelino) writes:
> 
> I was watching TV last night and noticed the message "Presented
> in Dobly Surround Sound" at the beginning of the program.  I
> immediately switched on my Denon and put it in surround mode, but
> the only sound I got was from the center channel.  I was using
> my VCR tuner with the sound from the VCR fed into the Denon.
> Oh yeah, I was using cable TV also.  Why didn't this work??
> -- 
> Gary A. Cattelino                  Unocal Corporate Information Services
> Phone: (714) 693-6762              5460 E. La Palma Ave.
> INTERNET: gary@unocal.COM          Anaheim, CA 92807
> 
> 

Although I have gotten good surround from some TV shows, I have yet to get
any that did not have a lot of noise coming out of the surround speakers.
Enough that I usually end up turning off the surround.  However, your
mileage may vary.

Steve
From: bobw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bob Wilson)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:05:24 GMT
Subject: HELP: Replacing VCR Heads
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.video

In the process of replacing the tape head drum on my Magnavox
VR9642 VCR (bought 4 yrs ago, 4 head, basic $300 machine), I
removed more than just the head drum.  I removed the magnetic
disc (on the opposite side of the shaft from the drum) and
then removed the whole shaft assembly.  I thought that the
magnetic disc acts as the motor to spin the drum.  Since there
was no keyway or flat on the shaft, I assumed that the angular
orientation between the magnetic disk and the tape head drum
was not critical.  After putting all back together, I am seeing
it play back SP tapes with white specs running throughout the
picture and the picture from SLP tapes is terrible.  I have tried
to adjust the rotational position of the magnetic disc with respect
to the drum to see if there is a difference and it seems that there
is, but it is fairly difficult to fine tune this due to the way the
magnetic disc attaches to the shaft.  I did replace the drum carefully
so as to keep the 6R and 2R sides of the drum in the same place on the
drum holder as they were originally.  I haven't tried to adjust any
other adjustment in the machine.  With a new drum, does the height
of the tape guides need to be adjusted?  Is the orientation of the
magnetic disc on the shaft important with respect to the orientation
of the drum?  Was I in outer space thinking that I could do this
myself??  Any advice would be appreciated.
---Bob Wilson
From: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com (Jim Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Stereo VHS / MTS question
Keywords: stereo, MTS, VCR rec
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:39:36 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com
Organization: BoGART To You, Buddy

I've read the FAQL's, and don't see a clear answer to this ('course,
it could be a problem with the reader ;-) ).  I'm ready to buy an
inexpensive (okay, cheap) HQ VHS VCR with HiFi stereo.  I'd also like
to use the VCR as my tuner (with my mono TV).  Do all HiFi stereo
VCRs include MTS decoding circuitry?  If not, what inexpensive ones
that do would you recommend?  TIA for any info you can provide - plz
email; I'll summarize if there's interest.
-- 
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From: pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep Dubey)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Question about Multi-system VCRs
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:39:50 GMT
Reply-To: pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep Dubey)
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

Hello Netters,
Are there multi system VCRs that can both play and record
in NTSC and PAL.  I have an 8mm NTSC camcorder.  I would like
to feed its audio-video output and feed it in a VCR that
can record it on a VHS tape in PAL format.  Is this doable?
If there are such VCRs, please email me (or post) the make, model
and price-range.
Finally, are there multi-system TV also that can take the
output of NTSC camcorders and display on a PAL TV.
Thanks a lot,
Pradeep
From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:05:57 GMT
Subject: Re: 20,000 LEAGUES Letterboxed was Re: What's the deal with TRON on LD?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
Newsgroups: rec.video

In rec.video, wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

> An unfortunate effect of Disney's announced 'limited time availability'
> is that when they become scarce, prices on the used market start to go up.

Depends on your point of view, I suppose.  "LTA" also raises the value of
your collection, and may even encourage an LD investor market, ensuring
continued availability of rare titles at SOME price.  I've been tempted to
find out what the person "desperately seeking the CAV Pinochio" in various
classified ads is willing to bid.  (The CLV is still widely stocked.)

Those who complain about Disney's merchandising strategies might also keep
in mind that Disney was for many years the only major studio that understood
the value of preserving their back catalog of film source elements.  Some of
the profit on the video releases pays for preservation and restoration.  If,
for example, United Artists had produced "Fantasia", there's an excellent
chance that there would have been nothing to restore.

The biggest problems with Disney's video policies are:
 - Getting replacement copies for defects during moratorium.
 - Disney statements of (re)release plans have no credibility.
 - They still don't completely tune their product for the LD market.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                UUCP: [hplabs|hpfcse]!hpfcrjn!rjn     Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: My Evening With LD-101 - UPDATE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:05:49 GMT


In article <7970834@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
>In rec.video, tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes:
>
>> The problem is that the line is ALWAYS bent, even at the lowest setting!
>
>The two XBRs I've played with have the same problem.  The grid pattern
>likewise has squiggles at each vertical intersection.  Other XBR owners
>report a similar problem.
>
>> about an inch wide. I noticed that many of these lines were bent at the
>> top and bottom of the screen, the amount of curvature increasing the
>> closer the lines were to the edges of the screen.
>
>You can adjust that to some extent with PAMP, CPIN and PPHA.  Be sure to
>write down the initial settings, as you can get in real deep and mess up the
>convergence with these controls as well.

This is precisely what I did. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be
any way to adjust the set properly - when displaying the crosshatch
pattern, when the lines at the upper corners are straight, those at the
bottom corners are bent, and vice-versa. I adjusted things so that the
lines were bent as little as possible at both top and bottom, then went
back to the white level setting. The line is now less bent than it was
before, but it is still impossible to get the line straight. I ended up
setting the white level back to the original factory setting and
forgetting about it. The problem is not apparent in normal viewing, so I
can live with it. I'm just a little disappointed that a high end, very
expensive TV/monitor cannot be set properly. :-( Ah, well, at least I
was able to set color, black level, and overscan, for a slight but
noticeable improvement (and I noticed it now says "delayed 15 minutes"
at the bottom of the stock ticker on CNN Headline News ;-)

Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: negative remarks on TR-81?
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:53:29 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Apr7.163202.11787@dg-rtp.dg.com>, jonesjg@wyvern.rtp.dg.com (Greg Jones) writes:
> The playback options are limited.  There is no slow playback, the fast playback
> is streaked, and the pause frequently jitters.  There is no tracking adjustment.
> 
> My fastforward has two horizontal strips of noise across the picture at 
> 1/3 and 2/3 of the screen. I assumed this is related to the number of 
> video heads.  
> 
> My pause frequently jitters,  it appears to be worse with Hi8 tapes than
> standard tapes, but again I haven't used that many tapes.
> 
> In general I'm very happy with the camara, it does great taping, 
> I just wish the playback were (a little bit) better.
> 
> I'm curious, do other TR-81 users see these same problems?

This seems to be true of many Sony units.  The TR5/7/81, V99, and GV8 all have
this problem.  Their 8mm VCR's I have used (EV-C3, EV-S900, DT1) do _not_ have
this problem - they clean have FF/REV/PAUSE.  My guess is Sony has decided not
put the electronics in the hand held stuff to do this cleanly. 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Sony vcrs with Control-L (LANC)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:35:54 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.200407.11206@unocal.com> gary@st.unocal.com (Gary Cattelino) writes:
>
>Besides, the connectors, what's the difference between Control-L and LANC?

Nothing - they are identical. This is most definitely the #1 FAQ for
this group. ;-)

>The Mitsubishi VCRs have LANC,

They do?!?!?!?!?!? To my knowledge, only Sony and some Canon equipment
have LANC ports. Other VCRs such as the Panasonic AG1960 have edit controller
ports, but they are incompatible with LANC.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Surround question
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:28:45 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <7970835@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
<In rec.video, jeanmarc@ima.isc.com (Jean-Marc Matteini) writes:
<
<> You now have a surround system.  If you feed your preamplifier the same
<> positive going step signal as above, how should the drivers move for the
<> main, center and surround speakers?
<
<If the signal is in-phase, the L-C-R fronts will all move in the same
<direction.  For moviesound, I doubt if absolute polarity matters.  The
<surrounds won't (or shouldn't) move at all.

Minor nit here...if true center channel Pro-logic detection is used, then the
left and right speakers will output nothing.  The left and right should only
move if phantom center channel is used.

If I set my Pro-logic unit to use the center channel and a mono signal is
provided, the audio goes quiet, since I don't have a center camp and speaker.
I use phantom mode.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang)
Subject: Re: Sony TR-81 may not be the best choice.  Other options.
Reply-To: mikey@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 23:43:50 GMT

In article <18203@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg) writes:
|> >Secondly, I feel Hi-8 is not very important to me.  I think you need
|> >a TV that can take the special video-connector to be able to see
|> >the difference in picture quality.
|> >So I am settling for plain 8mm.

No, you don't need the special video-connector.  Have you actually
compared the difference in picture quality between Hi8 and 8?

|> There is a visible difference between hi8 and reg 8 on any TV.  True,
|> a y-c compatible monitor with 400 line horiz. resolution is needed to
|> see all the benefit.

You can notice the benefit with an "ordinary" TV.  You can notice a
bigger difference with a TV that supports the higher resolution.  It
is arguable whether using a S-cable between your TR-81 and your TV
improves the picture quality over the composite out.  This usually
depends on whether you believe the TR-81 internals are superior to
your TV internals.

|> The BIG advantage of hi8 (or SVHS) is that is
|> much better for editing and dubbing.  The copy will look as ggod as
|> an original shot on VHS or 8mm.

Using a higher quality source usually improves the quality of the
copies.  If you're making tapes that you envision watching in the
distant future, you want to try and make them as good as possible now
so that they don't look like sh*t later.  Weigh this against the cost
difference.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Mike Yang        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
               mikey@sgi.com           415/335-1786
From: kho@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kelvin.ho)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Help configure Home Theater system
Summary: Please summarize
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:05:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


Please summarize your findings in the net.
I'm very much interested in the results.

Kelvin
From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: C.H. members please respond! (Was: Request for LD-player comments...)
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:45:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA

In rec.video, kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle) writes:

> In the case of CH they are owned by Sony which owns CBS/Fox which owns the
> LD pressing plant in TerrorHause IN.  Get the picture?  They sell all
> those CBS titles at a huge profit since they ARE the manufacturer

I have only seen one Fox LD so far that was pressed by DADC in Terre Haute
(the new W/S "Romancing the Stone" CBS/Fox 1358-85).  As far as I know, Fox
has not yet begin moving production of their back catalog away from PVI and
Technidisc.  The "Star Wars" LDs in particular are still pressed by PVI.

CHLDC hasn't yet achieved any economies from in-house production of Fox
titles (and licensed re-production of non-Fox titles), but they surely are
paying well below wholesale on those exhorbitant Fox W/S releases.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                UUCP: [hplabs|hpfcse]!hpfcrjn!rjn     Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Laser disc defect question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:07:09 GMT


In article <47790007@hpscit.sc.hp.com> evan@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Evan Whitney) writes:
>If the lines are strictly white, fairly distinct, and last for only 1 or
>2 seconds, then this is a defect that is EMBEDDED in the disc, not
>on the surface. It also may not be visible with the nekkid eye.
>
>I have a large collection of discs and I expect to see this defect occur
>at least once on any new disc that I purchase. I find it very annoying
>that I (we) should have to put up with this crap, but the laser disc
>store that I buy from says that the studios do not consider this to
>be a defect and WILL NOT TAKE THEM BACK.

Fortunately, not all stores operate this way. I returned a copy of
Fantasia (CAV Box) which had this problem in two spots, approx. 1.5
seconds in duration each. They swapped it with no hassle at all.

It really does depend on which stores you do business with. Hopefully,
as more and more stores start to sell LDs, we'll have more choices in
stores offering "unlimited, no questions asked" warrantys.

Xref: sparky rec.video:6231 misc.forsale:13956
From: bootle@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Lee Booth)
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.forsale
Subject: New Pioneer LD players???
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:46:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5333
Distribution: usa
Organization: /etc/organization

Apparently Pioneer just made a significant drop in their prices, which usually
means new models are coming soon.  Anyone heard anything about the new machines?
[Significant meaning 100 below the already "sale" price, for example $900 for
a CLD-3090 listed previously at $1200, and selling for $999.]
Lee Booth       bootle@rigel.cs.pdx.edu  
STRESS = The confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic 
desire to choke the living daylights out of some jerk who desperately
deserves it.
From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: science film festival
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:22:13 EST
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

The 3rd Quebec International Film Festival will take place (in both
Montreal and Quebec City, I think) from October 16 to November 1, 1992.
For more information, or to obtain an entry form, write to:
 Festival International du Film Scientifique du Quebec/
 Quebec International Science Film Festival
 15, rue De La Commune ouest
 Montreal, Quebec
 Canada H2Y 2C6
 telephone (514) 849-1612
 fax (514) 982-0064
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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: 8mm Video Player/Recorder
Date: 11 Apr 92 08:06:14 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Apr10.164431.223@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, rjlang@mirage.lerc.nasa.gov (Ray Lang) writes:
> After just purchasing an 8mm video Camcorder, I would like to buy a
> player/recorder so I wouldn't have to hook it to the TV/VCR when
> playing the tapes. Also, I could record to 8mm off of the TV. 
> I would be looking for stereo and non-Hi8. I certainly don't see very
> many of these on the market. I have only seen one made by Sony. Is 
> there anyone out there who's shopped, and/or, bought one? I am 
> interested in pricing information and sources for them. Thanks in 
> advance.

I own a EV-C3.  It works well for playing back 8mm - nice slomo ect.  And of
course it records.  The problem is for your purposes it doesn't have a tunner. 

If you want a tunner and nice slomo's your Sony choices are EV-550, EV-S900,
and the DT1/2.  The EV-S900 is Hi8mm.  The DT-1/2 are 5" TV's plus a
player/recorder. The EV-550 has a tunner.  Although the DT1 or DT2 is more than
you what you are looking for it might be worth the delta in cost since it makes
a nice portable play back unit. 

The EV-550, EV-S900, and DT1/2 all have timers as well.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:02:24 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

><of MTS.  When I had a TCI box, even the stations that broadcast MTS came out
><of the TCI box as mono.

>Did you try the MTS stations that are on cable without the box?  If the channels
>are not scrambled, try tuning them in without the damn box.

TCI here scrambles everything, although I could kinda get MTV on channel 6
(oh boy).

>in mono, then the cable box has nothing to do with it.  If they are in stereo
>without the box, then the box is one of those screwed up ones.

That's what I said.

>If you don't need the box, except for scrambled channels, then I suggest not
>using the box.  I refuse to have a converter box in my house because it would
>screw up all of the cable ready equipment that I have.

That's why I don't do business with TCI.

>  Since HBO and Showtime
>are not scrambled, then the problem is mute.

They are here, and I think you mean "moot".


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======================================================8--<
From: johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:00:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Life time of VCR video tapes?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.video


>There was an article late last year in either Video or Video Review on Sony
>esearch into tape life. There are a lot of issues involving storage and

See Video Oct 91
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Apr9.001055.11745@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
<
<>Have you tried the TCI box with your stuff?  Just because a converter box is
<>RF won't make it not pass MTS,
<
<I didn't mean to imply that.  I was decrying both RF output and the lack
<of MTS.  When I had a TCI box, even the stations that broadcast MTS came out
<of the TCI box as mono.

Did you try the MTS stations that are on cable without the box?  If the channels
are not scrambled, try tuning them in without the damn box.  If they are still
in mono, then the cable box has nothing to do with it.  If they are in stereo
without the box, then the box is one of those screwed up ones.

If you don't need the box, except for scrambled channels, then I suggest not
using the box.  I refuse to have a converter box in my house because it would
screw up all of the cable ready equipment that I have.  Since HBO and Showtime
are not scrambled, then the problem is mute.  I don't want the other pay
channels.
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From: Rupin.Dang@dartmouth.edu (Rupin Dang)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Which PAL used in India
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:58:16 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

India uses the standard PAL system. Not its variants. Yes, VHS is the most
common consumer format as anywhere else.

Rupin.Dang@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases