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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Mellow Pro Show
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:44:13 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <26845@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov writes:
> [.. text deleted ..]
> 
> Apparently there was little or no publicity in the area,
> so there were less than 50 spectators, including surfers.  
> Bay Area folks, check it out! 
> Today, Fri.7:30-3:30, Sat. same,
> Sunday Finals 8:30 - 1pm.
> 
> Surf should be picking up, inside sources say (thanks, John)

    I wish it were true, but I think that south was too south to
get here if it existed at all. Even if it did exist, I'm not sure
Ocean Beach takes much of a south anyway. I surfed S.C. today and 
it was abysmal.  My kingdom for a good northwest, a west or solid
southwest.

    sigh.
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Please Help
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:51:33 GMT
Organization: HP Western Response Center


              Please answer these 9 questions and return.

1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

2.) Are you pro choice?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

5.) What sex are you?
Male               [ ]
Female             [ ]

6.) How old are you?
Under 18           [ ]
19 to 65           [ ]
Over 65            [ ]

7.) What religion are you?
Protestant         [ ]
Catholic           [ ]
Jewish             [ ]
Other              [ ]

8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
Democratic         [ ]
Republican         [ ]
Other              [ ]

9.) How many years of education have you completed?
Grade School       [ ]
High School        [ ]
College            [ ]
More               [ ]
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Mellow Pro Show
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:17:09 GMT
Reply-To: njtravis@lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.116

Yesterday I watched a couple hours of the Bud ASP Tour in San Francisco.
It was inspirational seeing so many surfers do so much with so little.
Nice sunshine, GOOD rock n roll, inconsistent soap suds about
shoulder high, with some sneaker peaks overhead for a lucky few.
Actually, it seemed more like wave lotto than a competition.
Conditions changed radically from one heat to the next, just
like your trusty Maytag changing cycles.
John Parmenter was outstanding doing just about everything
without a flaw.  Another competitor (sounded like Rick Davis, 
the music was loud and I couldn't hear the commentary well enough)
did one 360 after another off the lip.

The best part of it, I think, was that they only took up a small
part of the Beach, VFWs, leaving Kelley's Cove and the some of the
best surf for the locals and non competitors. Some of the best
rides were had just north of the contest area. 

Apparently there was little or no publicity in the area,
so there were less than 50 spectators, including surfers.  
Bay Area folks, check it out! 
Today, Fri.7:30-3:30, Sat. same,
Sunday Finals 8:30 - 1pm.

Surf should be picking up, inside sources say (thanks, John)
From: u2119390@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: RE: Surfin OZ
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:38:26 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

 	Hey Ian, thats a pretty hefty call, asking if theres any good			
	surfing beaches on the east coast of Oz, i mean, really!!
	theres gotta be thousands of kms of "east coast" beaches,
	but like, where is your bud going? Queensland? NSW, Vic?
	And north or south of whatever state.....You might have to
	be a bit more specific about where he's going, or no one will
	be able to come up with anything more than a few tourist names
	like Burleigh, Bells and North Narra that everyone has heard of
	anyway.
	Seriously, there are thousands of epic breaks on the east coast,
	and the one that takes the cake is........MAROUBRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	(just kidding man, I'm only saying that 'cause I live there...)			
	
	oh well maybe this helped (?!?!????!!)
	later man!

	###### LESS THAN 1 WEEK TILL I CAN SURF AGAIN!!!!!!!!! #########
			(F#@KING SEA ULCER FROM HELL!!)

			SEE YA IN THE WATER...(next wednesday 5am)
				Jay.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:03:35 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.190937.10265@ra.msstate.edu>, rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko) writes:

>< Utter Crap and Attempted flames deleted for the sanity of ALT.SURFING >

>You have got a problem BOB. Did it all start when you were a little kid? That
... [flames singed out].

Why the FUCK doesn't everyone just chill-out ?
If you want to flame do it in email after the first follow-up.
It get's a bit monotonous after a while...
N.

>Grow a brain.

>> Bob "I squat when I piss" Opaklo
>> 

>Bundy. 

>Al's friend, not Ted's you Moron.
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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: The longboard is mine!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 00:10:47 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1992Oct13.211714.18457@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu writes:
>   Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on the purchase
> of a used longboard.  Yesterday I paid $40.00 ($10  less than
> asking price), strapped it to my cars roof, and brought it home.
> 
> The good news:  
   [.. the board is cool-o ..]
> 
> The bad news:  The board has been left in the sun for years and
   [.. the board is dinged-o ..]
> 
> So, what do I do now?  I would like to fix it up.  Not a full
> restoration, just fix all the dings right, and redo the nose and
> tail.  Can I do this, or is this better left to an "expert"?  Bud 

  Well the answer to this has not much to do with surfing. 
  
  If you are the kind of guy that salivates at the sound of a power 
  tool and cheers Norm (of the New Yankee Workshop) as he goes for 
  his 19th different power tool application on the construction of 
  the Shaker bird house, then you should fix it yourself.

  If you are the kind of guy who wants to spend every free moment that you
  can get away from work doing stuff that no one would pay you for, 
  then pay to get somebody else to do it.

  The only reason I fix some of my own dings is that it actually takes less
  time then giving it to somebody else. But if I can't fix it by gooping some
  resin and glass bits on there and sanding with the skill of a 
  kindergartener, then I pay for it.

  If I was you (which I ain't, aren't you lucky), I would pay some reputable
  ding king to repair it.

  Btw, shouldn't a longboard weigh around 18lbs? 31 sounds pretty hefty.

> Carlson mentioned that with the serial # I could find out who
> originally purchased the board. So Bud, how do I go about this?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Danny
> --
>    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information

  Danny, why do you post from the west coast with a UNC@CH sig?
  I'm curious. I got a Ph.D. from there in '90.

>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 09 Oct 92 07:25:00 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1900002@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
>Yes                  [x]  as long as it's equal and not leaning towards either]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
>
>2.) Are you pro choice?
>Yes                  [x]  yes for choice/no for abortion.  I don't feel that 
                           choice and abortion should be together.  Sure women 
                           can choice anything except when it deals with another
                           life. ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]   ]
>Other                [ ]
>
>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
>Yes                  [x]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [ ]
>
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
>Yes                  [ ]
>Sometimes            [ ]
>No                   [ ]
>Haven't heard enough [ ]
>Other                [x]  not sure  ]
>
>5.) What sex are you?
>Male               [x ]
>Female             [ ]
>
>6.) How old are you?
>Under 18           [ ]
>19 to 65           [x ]
>Over 65            [ ]
>
>7.) What religion are you?
>Protestant         [ ]
>Catholic           [ ]
>Jewish             [ ]
>Other              [x ]
>
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
>Democratic         [ ]
>Republican         [ ]
>Other              [x]  I hate politics ]
>
>9.) How many years of education have you completed?
>Grade School       [ ]
>High School        [ ]
>College            [x]  currently attending college ]
>More               [ ]



Why the hell is this in alt.surfing, it wasn't crossposted anywhere else
and I don't recognize the name on the header.

And what does it have to do surfing?   NOT ONE SINGLE THING!
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Essential Surfing
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:12:48 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I received the book "Essential Surfing" yesterday.....It seems to be
an excellent book. It discusses many different aspects of surfing including
board design, board choice, history, wave generation, wetsuits.......
I just started flipping through last night....When is the first Nor'Easter
coming through the east coast....why am I here.....those .gif files
have been a bad influence on me......
   O                                        You don't stop surfing
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
   \___________________________
			     \\
From: g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:58:52 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cc.uwa.edu.au

In article <1992Oct8.190937.10265@ra.msstate.edu>, rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko) writes:

< Utter Crap and Attempted flames deleted for the sanity of ALT.SURFING >

You have got a problem BOB. Did it all start when you were a little kid? That
time Granddad said it was only going to be a fishing trip... or was it when
you realized all the other boys in the shower had their dicks between their
legs and not on their forehead like yourself? I think you should keep your
flames to yourself Bobby  because Im sure 99% of the people in this 
newsgroup dont want to hear your petty little whinges and would much rather
hear about the waves and surfing related info. So keep the flames to yourself
or show some Balls and show your festering purulent face in ALT.FLAME so all
the guys can rip you to shreds like cats playing with a dead mouse.
 
> 
> Get a life.
> 

Grow a brain.

> Bob "I squat when I piss" Opaklo
> 

Bundy. 

Al's friend, not Ted's you Moron.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: A small surf !
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:42:00 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

It had  been a whole week since my last surf and as such was keen to
get a wave in.
So I went in search of surf with a friend.
He is a total beginner and just practiced paddling around and
catching white-wash.
There wasn't much surf about.
We ended up surfing east-corrimal at about 2:30pm to 4:00pm.
There were a few waist to chest at max size waves.
Got in a few floaters.
Tried a few re-entries.But once I got it up there I'd stall and
nose dive coming back down.
My 6'8" is just no good in small waves.

Bye,
Nigel.

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From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: surfin OZ
Date: 12 Oct 1992 05:06:50 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: gollum.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <1992Oct9.091616.11599@cs.uow.edu.au> u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) writes:
>ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
 
>>Have not had a chance yet to see if there is a decent correlation
>>between the maps and actual surf conditions as yet .
>
>So why don't you post a copy of the file every couple of days for us to look 
>at ?

'Cause the idea is to beat the hordes to the water when a new swell
arrives :-), plus, I have to make up for time lost in getting all this
paraphanalia set up.

>We'll compare them with the surf and when they don't add up bag you out Lud...
>(only joking).

Bag the weather dept, if their forecasts for waves are as good as
those for the weather, well, I think I may have done my dough :-).
Actually they come from
Canberra, which is pretty close to you Nig., the maps are probably
/possibly available via ftp ?.
Anyone out there from the weather dept. ? 

Lud.
From: dirk@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan William Wisler)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Up under
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:16:51 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
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From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Lud's .gif Files
Date: 13 Oct 1992 02:45:40 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: gollum.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <1bammqINNssg@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:

>> If you look carefully, you can see three guys out (sorry about the
>> poor quality), look between the 1st and second wave, one guy is at
>> the base of the the second wave,
>> stroking like hell to get to the shoulder, and the other two are
>> further to the left, out of the impact zone.
>> Might give a better perspective of the size of you can pick them out.
>> 
>
>   Lud, I got out my trusty SGI 'snoop' program and magnified this image.
>   I count about 6 pixels that aren't blue. Now that you tell me, 
>   sure I can imagine that those non-blue pixels are surfers, 

Just shows how huge that wave is :-), I'd put it at somewhere around
four times overhead, I suppose that would be a around 12 ft. in
Hawaii ?.

I'm using CSHOW and SVGA on the PC to view the images, and though the
quality is not the best (I'll try and find the photo and do another scan)
 you can make out the three surfers, just .

Look at the second wave, about 25% across from the left, about 10% up
the waveface, surfer is paddling for the shoulder, just see a couple of streaks
of white wake (Paddling like he's never paddled before :-( ), then
about an inch further to the left and a little lower there's a speck of red,
and further left and lower again, the third surfer, just a smudge of grey/black.


Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Mark Richard's new book
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:11:17 GMT

g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:

>Has anyone read  ' Mark Richards, A surfing Legend ' yet? 

I  have seen it loojked through it and read a few sections.
But,....I wouldn't buy it as I'll usually either wiat for it on video or
until some library get's it or a friend buys it.
The Endz justifies having no money.


>I saw MR on the
>Ray Martin show yesterday and he was plugging his new Autobiography. If
>someones read it could they E-mail me or give a quick review on the Net
>to tell me if its worth buying. It costs about $24.95.

Well,I can't really offer much of an opinion really,except it seems
well written.
If you like MR so much go ahead and buy it.
But for me I read enough surf  material as it is.....

>I think MR's bottom turn is his trademark move which made him a surfing legend
>back in the 80's. He executes it so well that the speed he generates from it
>makes the rest of the wave easy! 

>Bundy.

-- 
Life goes on...and on....
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:01:53 GMT

In article <ldh37eINNefm@cronkite> p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics) writes:
>In article <26257@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>>
>> 7.) How many years of education have you completed?
>> Grade School (rubber mat)       [ ]
>> High School    (short board)    [x]
>> College            (longboard)  [x]
>> More               (bodyboard)  [ ]

>	I like the way you perceive bb'ing !!!!!

I just figured he meant that by the time we finished "more" we were
too old and tired to stand up.  Sort of the surfing equivalent of
senility bringing on a second childhood.  Well, time to get the walker
out and hobble off to bed. :-)

Andy
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 7 Oct 1992 17:59:10 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1992Oct7.164317.15473@ra.msstate.edu>, rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu writes:
> >> In article <1992Oct2.090421.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
> > Im talking about the the culling of Sharks which interfere with humans
> >not unrestrained destruction on a species.
> >Dont take me for a ride mate, Im not a 9 year old grommet with zits, I believe
> >that dangerous Sharks which present a risk to the human race should be killed
> >or relocated to another area the same way a grizzly bear would be moved away
> >from a country town. I dont think the senseless killing of Sharks is the right
> >approach but if those sharks just had a feeding frenzy on my home beach then
> >I would be the first one out there with a hook and wire trace.  
> >
> >Bundy.
> 
> Hey BUNDY, just how do you plan on identifying the Exact number of, much less, 
> which ones are the killers?
> 
> I guess you could always ask them first.
> 
> Bob.
>   

   Hey BOB, stop being a self-righteous bozo. Your ancestors nuked all the
   bears and wolves and indians that used to live here. And if they suddenly
   re-appeared, you and your descendants wouldn't make room for them now.

   So don't be surprised when a surfer takes an attack personally and
   wants to go out and kill sharks.  Humans are just animals and they 
   fight back when you fuck with them. It's a fact of life.

   Only when something is totally whipped do they suddenly get all 
   goo-ey and set aside parks for them, and then only in places they
   wouldn't live anyway. Then the really annoying ones get 
   hypocritically self-righteous. Like you.

   How is the surf in Mississippi anyway?

   The Sea Otters and Seals are having fun out here again. Last time I
   surfed, a guy sitting on a longboard was looking over his shoulder
   and talking to somebody behind him. A harbor seal came up and stuck
   his nose on the nose of the board and was looking at the surfer
   very thoughtfully. I told him to look at the seal, but as he turned,
   the seal slid beneath the surface without a trace. He said, "what?
   I don't see anything". I said, "Oh, forget it".

Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: a surf with Jim.
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:56:45 GMT

Howdy,
	As Jim is a busy lad nowadays I thought I'd comment on
our surf this morning.
I got him out of bed (as per usual) at 6:20am.
He was grunting and groaning as per usual.
Made himself breakfast while I put his board in the car.
We then drove to Towradgi to pick up a friend of mine who 
was alredy in the surf.
We then checked shitties under Jim's wistful guidance.
It was...shit.
So we went to surf south beach....
7:00am we finally hit the water and catch a few waves.
We swapped boards after about 1/2 an hour and Jim's 6'3" I named a 
pocket rocket.The thing would carve on a good wave.
Jim promptly did a good floater/re-enrty and named my
6'8" a Limosine for it's stable riding ability and general
cruisy nature.
We stayed out until the surf fucked up.
It was about a head-high session (3 foot).
The wave was full until it hit the bank and then sucked right out.
I was telling Jim how Theresa Breckon fiance and friend (Mark and Tim)
will be here in a few days.
He reccommended that we take them out to virgins (snicker,snicker...haha!).
What else...there was this guy down there who is there all the time.
I think he's been surfing the place since the 70's.
He's about 35 say and always at this section of coast (about 1km long).
I have never seen him elsewhere.
The guy is missing alot by not travelling and he's got a kombi too (???)

That's about it ...
Bye,
Nigel.
PS Andrew See (?) said he read that Mark Richards book.

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From: u2119390@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:30:41 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

	Hey, I saw on the news last night that Vic Hislop had caught
	a 4 metre great white and a 3 metre bronze whaler just off
	the coast in the Moreton (sp?) island area where the dude was 
	attacked. They reckon it's the same one who mauled the guy, although
	there was nothing in its stomach.He said something about great whites
	regularly disgorge their stomach contents, so theres probably nothing
	in there. well he was right, but I dunno if it was the same shark, and
	lets face it, how can they really be so sure? 
	Did they (like the other duder said ) Ask him??????
	Guess we'll never know........well not me anyway.

	Later.
		Jay