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From: jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist)
Subject: Re: Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru (was Re: Locarno = Kirk)
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:52:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.220351.29527@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones) writes:
>>Now if you're trying to say that taking the unaltered Kobiyashi
>>Maru would have helped Kirk face the loss of Spock I think you're
>>out of your mind.  
>
>I think it would have helped somewhat.  The shock would have been the same,
>at least initially, but can you really see Kirk *that* dead-to-the-world
>and "it's all just words" to David if he'd finally admitted *beforehand*
>that the good guys don't always win?  

I dunno.  I doubt that Kirk took the Kobayashi Maru only once.  He wouldn't
have known WHAT to change about the test unless he'd taken it.  That aside, I
think that the lesson to be learned from the test registered itself in Kirk's
head, but he chose to ignore it, whether it's cockiness, hubris, recklessness,
call it what you will.  He only came to terms with the truth attached to that
lesson following Spock's death (The "I cheated death, and patted myself on the
back" speech he gives to David in his quarters).

>
>Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
>BITNET:  tlynch@citjuliet
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>"Science is the only self-correcting human institution, but it also is a 
>process that progresses only by showing itself to be wrong."
>			--Allan Sandage


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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: r.a.s.* in the Net as a Whole
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:26:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.193049.9421@spool.cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>>         No. of      % of
>>Rank Articles Kbytes Total  Site
>>  23   398    1126.6  0.3%  cco.CALTECH.EDU (California Institute of Technology, Computer Science)
>>			      10% rec.arts.startrek.current
Tim Lynch, of course.

>>  19   770    1080.1  0.3%  ubvmsb.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
>>			      5% rec.arts.startrek.current
Scott Gorcey.

>>  22   607     622.5  0.2%  ux1.CSO.UIUC.EDU (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Computing Services Office)
>>			      7% rec.arts.startrek.current
Me, with some help from Joe Zell.  As this is not the free student machine,
few people have accounts here.  (Most uiuc posts are from uxa, rather than
ux1.) 

>>Subject: Top 25 News Submitters by User by number of articles for the last 2 weeks
>>
>>  11   143     123.8  0.0%   hucke@ux1.CSO.UIUC.EDU  (Matt Hucke)
>>			      6% rec.arts.startrek
I was just getting into an interesting flamewar with the environmentalists
when the rmgroup message came through...  A shame.  

"But I was winning... I was!"   --General Trelayne, retired.

>>  12   138     190.3  0.0%   rawdon@cabrales.CS.WISC.EDU  (Michael Rawdon)

>So Matt beat me finally.  Well, he certainly tried hard enough. :-)  But
>then, I had a major checkpoint in my project due this past week...

Well, you've still got me on volume... :) 

In any case, you're sure to get back ahead next week... I've got 3 exams...

-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: rll1@gloin.unh.edu (Robert L Lamothe)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:00:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.044348.7426@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.194044.470@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>
>>Hey, in "Cause and Effect", it was *36* seconds to a particular critical
>>event.  Twice 18.  :-)
>
>One of the most frequently used numbers is '4077'.  As Okuda is a M*A*S*H fan,
>it can be found on almost every panel or computer display.
>
>
>-- 
>"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
> Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
>hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                        Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991

	Hey if you add 4+0+7+7 you get 18, a coincedence?
					-Bob

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From: hologram@wam.umd.edu (C. Carlson)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Holograms For Sale
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:55:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.230511.15737@pbs.org> mdresser@pbs.org (Melanie Dresser) writes:
>
>For Sale:
>Holograms cards from the Impel Star Trek 25th anniversary trading card set.
>
>	H1: The Original Enterprise  $35  (2 available)
>	H3: Captain James T. Kirk    $25  (10 available)
>	H4: Captain Jean-Luc Picard  $30  (3 avaiable)
>
>Will trade for H2: Next Generation Enterprise
>
>I'm posting this for a friend, so if interested please reply with info on how to
>contact you.
>

	Hologram cards for sale?  Hmm... should I buy some?  :-)

--chris carlson
hologram@wam.umd.edu
From: hendrick@ctron.com (Jim Hendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Cheers==TNG Crossovers
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:44:25 GMT
	<ASWEENEY.92Apr10092805@camelot.sw.stratus.com>
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Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.
In-reply-to: dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu's message of 10 Apr 92 17:11:36 GMT

This could be a very interesting comic relief bit.
Cliff and Norm as alien visitors in relatively straight roles, but
a few inside jokes here and there like Cliffs character having tons
of trivia about whatever and Norms being the penultimate "hail fellow
well met" type, obviously looking very at home in a bar. Maybe even
a macho-type bartender so a line like "Gimme a beer Sammy..(puzzeled
look on barkeeps face)... Oh, sorry. You reminded me of someone else."
would fit in nicely.


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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings (was something about 3 in 1 review)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:20:41 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <9204142341.AA24396@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, ottoh3@CFSMO (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>On the outside chance that anyone cares which episodes I think are worse
>than EaF...
>
>.298    DRUMHEAD, THE (N)
>.30     COMING OF AGE (N)
>.32     ANGEL ONE (N)
>.350    SYMBIOSIS (N)

You rate Drumhead /lower/ than these three?!  "Angel One" is a dreary formula
episode, and "Symbiosis" has got to be the clumsiest handling of the drug
abuse issue I've ever seen.  Surely Drumhead (a competent at least handling
of the issues involved with political power) rates higher than these...

>.355    MEASURE OF A MAN, THE (N)
>.378    FIRST DUTY, THE (N)
>.39     WHEN THE BOUGH BREAKS (N)

Ack!  Choke!  You rate WtBB *over* MoaM?  I rate WtBB as one of the 5 worst
episodes TNG has ever done.  MoaM was a first-rate drama, expertly handling
the question of Data's humanity, something it could've easily got bogged down
in.  I also liked First Duty.

>.439    DARMOK (N)
>.445    LOSS, THE (N)
>.447    BONDING, THE (N)

I am beyond shock.  IMHO Darmok is one of the best eps ever done by TNG.


Getting back to the original point:

>.53     ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT (N)
>
>
>And the USENET-wide rating for EaF is....
>
>.564    ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT (N)
>
>. which is slightly below the half-way point, but not by much.

I'd have to rate E@F about 40% through the pack.  It's not great, but it's
got a /lot/ of competition for the low spots. :-(

-- 
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension
as vast as space and as timeless as infinity.  It is the middle ground between
light and shadow, between science and superstition. And it lies between the pit
of Man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.  This is the dimension of
imagination -- it is an area which we call "The Twilight Zone".
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Subject: Do you have a towel?
From: iasimov@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Isaac Asimov)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 09:22:05 PDT
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: The Batchelor Pad
Keywords: WELCOME TO HELL ISAAC




   IS IT JUST ME, OR IS IT HOT IN HERE????????





i.

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Why I would fail Calculus at Starfleet Academy...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:57:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.094718.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> twiggy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>Ok....
>
>Picard sez he graduated from Starfleet class o' 23.
>Data sez he graduated from the class of 70.
>
Data's graduatation date was mentioned in EaF, the first episode.  Evidently,
at that time, they were planning to use a SPACEFLIGHT CHRONOLOGY-compatible
timeline, the same one used by F*SA, which is inaccurate by 60 years.

It could not have been the year 2270, as that was 50+ years before Data
was built.  We'll have to explain it as "stardate xxx70".

>What class is this one that is graduating now.
>
2368.

>What is the class Weasly is graduating from?
>
It's hard to be sure... he entered the academy in october of our time, but
we don't know what that corresponds to there, and we don't month it is now
in 2368.  He's been there less than two years, so I'd call him a freshman,
meaning he'd graduate in '71 normally, '72 due to his accident.

>and finally,
>
>how old does that make Picard?

2368-2305=63.  


-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Wil Wheaton's departure (was Re: Short comment on wesley (yuk))
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:19:50 GMT

bwf@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (bernard.w.fecht) writes:

>Sorry, I may have missed this discussion, but WHY did Wil Wheaton
>leave the series (ie. why is Wesley at Star Fleet?)  

This little thing called college.  Wil left the series to go to UCLA.

>Seems to me
>that, with only a year or so left of the series, they could have
>stretched the "why isn't Wesley at SF yet?" excuses a bit more.

A year or so?  Um...at the time of his departure, early in the fourth
season, there were almost *three full seasons* left--four, if the rumours
of a seventh season pan out.  

>Did Wheaton ask to leave?  Or maybe they offered him a part in DS9?

The former.  At the time of his departure, DS9 probably hadn't even been
thought up.

Tim Lynch
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From: bcg42647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Benjamin Canty Goff)
Subject: Re: O'Brien a comedian?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:25:59 GMT

cmeadows@isis.cs.du.edu (Christopher Meadows) writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.161455.3443@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mfdjh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (
>ale Hample) writes:
>>I was watching Showtime last night, and they had on some sort of All
>>Star Comedy thing from Montreal...a rerun, I'd seen it before.  But I
>>swear that I saw Chief O'Brien do an act with a big bass fiddle.  Was it
>>just too late at night for me to see straight?
>>-- 
>>Dale Hample                            Dept. Communication A&S
>>mfdjh@ecnuxa.bitnet                    Western Illinois University
>>mfdjh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu                  309-298-1492
>>     'Nihil durum pretiosum' -- The Undergraduate Motto



>Wasn't "O'Brien" also the pilot of the airliner that crashed in DIEHARD 2?

Sho nuff!
In addition, he was the father in "The Commitments" (a good movie despite
his small part).

Other appearences of Miles Edward:
	The Conn officer in the very first episode of TNG
        a security officer in a later episode.
(I think this clears up the matter about his rank, as well...)

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From: lpfaig@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: FTP sites?
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:40:36 GMT
Organization: Miami University, Hamilton campus

Where are the Star Trek FTP sites, if any?
If you know, just E-Mail!


(Still wiating to see that Troi gif :) )
Thanks,
Lance
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From: kryst8@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Neil J Henson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Star Trek Talk at American Chemical Society Meeting
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:55:10 GMT
Organization: Chem Cryst, University of Oxford, UK


    I'd just like to thank Prof. N. Foster (sorry, I can't remember your first 
name!) for the excellent talk entitled _Where no one has gone before : Chemistry
in Star Trek_ presented at last week's American Chemical Society meeting in
San Francisco.

      It was very interesting to hear the speaker's account on how scientific
advances between the writing of TOS and TNG have affected the science presented
in many of the stories. The contrast between _The Deadly Years_ and the similar
story in TNG concerning Dr. Pulaski and the planet of genetically engineered
children was particularly intriguing (can't remember the name again. My memory
must be failing...). It was a welcome break from all that chemistry stuff too
:-).

      From the speaker's acknowledgements slide, I know she reads ras.* so I
hope this message gets there. Thanks to any ras'ers who helped with ideas 
(including Tim Lynch).

                                                      Neil.

N.B. the attendance at the lecture (and the rest of the session) was 
considerably greater than many of the "scientific" talks at the rest of the
meeting. Maybe I should stick to Star Trek and forget the chemistry....

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From: rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Occurance of 18 in ST:TNG
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:19:49 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station


     Some people think that this is silly, but several of us have noticed
that the number 18 is picked as a 'random' number on the show too often
to be _completely_ meaningless. I can think of three examples off of the
top of my head: int two episodes, 18 people died. In another, Data men-
tions there being 18 seconds until something hapenned. I don't remember
the specifics on these. The reason I bring it up is that there are _many_
instances which I can't remember at the moment where they used the number
18. Too much for probability to ignore. Let's start compiling a confirmed
list of exact quotes and episodes (if you can't remember exacts, then try
and point us where you _think_ there is one). Mail me or post a reply to
this article.

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|  4. Life disintegrate. 5. A state of life that   +-------------------------+
|  calls for another way of living.                |   This space for rent   |
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From: v127mead@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (amgIne eht , the Qutinuum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: list of shows
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Could someone out there forward to me a list of all TNG episodes 
though this week (all Five seasons).  I would really appreciate it.  Thanks
Ron 
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From: kratnam@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kapila Ratnam)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List (Not Letterman...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:49:00 GMT

A good top 10 list.  However I think "Elaan of Troyius" should be 
included on it somewhere simply because it has (IMHO) the best space 
battle ever produced for television.

-- 
"Even in this corner of the galaxy, captain, two plus two equals four"
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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Posting stats
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:41:09 GMT

In <9204091420.AA01967@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>Matt edges Mike out!

The really sick thing is that I've been trying to cut down. :-)

>And Tim isn't even on the board.  Supposedly because he's "out of town" on
>"business".  :-)

Tim's been very quiet lately.  Of course, if you don't read soc.singles or
rec.arts.comics, you could say the same about me.

>No posting binges from Roger or Atsushi either.  People are starting to lose
>it here folks...

I don't recall Roger ever making it on the list.  And Atsushi hasn't been
on it in a long time, if I recall correctly.

The really sick thing is that I've only missed a couple of the lists
over the last fifteen months. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Go?  Where are we going?"
"Where they went."
"What if they went nowhere?"
"Then, this will be your big chance to get away from it all."
			- McCoy and Kirk; Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
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From: HADCDJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A)
Subject: Addition to the top 10 Trek TOS
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:24:35 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

	I think a dandy addition to your list of top tens would be MY personal
comedy favorite of TOS, "A Piece of the Action."  Really, really funny stuff.
Also, I think "Patterns of Force" is due some consideration.

Just suggesting.

Jammer Jim
aka Captain Thevinen Salar, CO, USS EXCALIBUR
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:11:54 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Apr12.220149.19979@midway.uchicago.edu> arxt@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
<
<	In article <1992Apr12.175627.221551@cs.cmu.edu>, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
<(Matthew Gertz) wrote, "What's an I.Q?  How do I send away for one?  Is this
<mentioned in the FAQL?"
<	And how do you spell it?

it
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:25:28 GMT
Distribution: world,public
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <1992Apr7.221927.16236@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine) writes:
>>Except that real computers have OFF switches.  When a Mac locks up (and they
>>do this often!) it has to be unplugged.
>
>Ever hear of the reset button? Most Macs have them. I hate the ones
>that don't -- the key combination that gives the same effect doesn't
>always work.

Some have them, some don't.  I work mostly with the newer ones, which have 
neither switch nor reset button.  Ctrl-Cmd-trianglethingy usually doesn't 
work, and the power cord must be disconnected.

>But what does this have to do with Star Trek? An dwhat does *that*
>have to do with Hypercard?

Well, when someone makes the ludicrous statement that the Macintosh is *not* 
an abomination, the root of all evil, I must reply. :)

-- 
        Real Programmers Don't Eat Quiche.
                      hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: hbj@phys.uucp (Harold B. Johnson )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:22:29 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida - Physics

In article <1992Apr09.211512.21757@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.122821@sdd.hp.com> harris@sdd.hp.com (John Harris) writes:
>
>>Agreed.  This is further evidence to me that TOS had better character
>>development than TNG (No TOS vs TNG flame war please).  
>
>No flames, I just get a chuckle every time I see this statement.  *What* 
>character development?  I honestly can't tell what season of TOS I'm watching
>whenever I catch one because the characters *always* act the same, they're
>-- 
>Jose Gonzalez

Jose, look at Scotty's hair..that should do it! 8^)

H.B. Johnson
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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Wesley's "Punishment" (SPOILERS FOR FIRST DUTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:16:21 GMT

In article <DDOUG.92Apr6203729@dl5000.bc.edu> ddoug@dl5000.bc.edu (Debra R.Douglass) writes:
>In article <92097.002849WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>   In article <VcFsiB2w164w@netlink.cts.com>, trekkie@netlink.cts.com (Bryce
>   Newall) says:
>   >
>   >He wasn't going to receive F's for his courses.  Rather, it was going to
>   >appear as though he had never taken them.  Sure, they'll be easy for him the
>   >second time through, but like you said, the other students will be "laughing
>   >at him", since they'll all know why he's there.
>   >
>   >                                                -- Trekkie
>   >
>   No, more like being scorned, Nova Squadron will be disgraced and won't be
>   mentioned...
>
>   >-- 
>
>Have you any idea how much of an impact that 'the other students will
>be "laughing at him"' at a military or military-like academy can have
>on a student??? It's not like attending a modern-day civilian college.
>At miltary academies, there is emphasis on Honor, Loyalty, Code of
>Ethics, etc. You live in a separate society for four years in which

And ethics would demand that he shut up and had a person's death go
improperly investigated?  I would like to think that the people who are
in ANY military academy would not fuck someone over for speaking the
truth.  Whistle-blowers everywhere get their lives and livelihoods
threatened.  I'd like to think that people interested in "Honor,
Loyalty, Code of Ethics, etc" and all that jazz would admire truth.

Regards,
Janis C.


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