From: larrys@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Larry Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Scuba Lessons in Peekskill, NY
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:25:46 GMT
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <930452@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com> davew@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
>Okay Nick, you probably knew this was coming from me :-)
>
>This post is, without exception, a pure and simple advertisement for
>your services as an instructor. There is nothing inherently bad about
>advertising, however it was my understanding that this type of
>advertising was taboo on rec.scuba lest the newsgroup get buried in the
>noise of instructor advertisements.
>
>As an instructor I'd like very much to make a similar advertisement. I
>too am looking for students. And, as Nick, I believe that I offer an
>exceptional program, as well as having the freedom of being an
>independent instructor like Nick.
>
>However, there is substantial competition from other instructors in my
>area here, many of them participating in this forum. If I make such a
>posting, will many of them be motivated to as well? And then, how far
>does the discussion go?
>
>At this point I will refrain from making such an appeal, and ask that
>rec.scuba readers post their thoughts on this. We need to discuss this
>issue and come to a consensus. I personally would prefer that rec.scuba
>remain a high information content forum, but in this dog eat dog world,
>I'm as interested as the next person in using what tools are available
>to fill my class roster.
>
>Dave Waller
>YMCA Instructor

    Seeing as how I am not an instructor nor even a dive master, I don't gain
    an advantage from either side of the arguement.  I think it would become
    tedious and uninteresting to have rec.scuba become a classified ads section
    for instruction/classes/various certifications/etc by instructor rated
    posters, or even worse, folks posting for their favorite instructor that
    doesn't have net access.

    Personally, I wasn't offended by Nick's mention of "training or
    certifications" that he would offer during a chartered dive trip.  He has
    apparently commited to charter a dive boat for a week and be responsible
    for getting folks to sign up.  This is basically the same approach that
    Dave Duis took in advertising his Saba trip in rec.scuba.  As both have
    assumed a substantial degree of financial liability in order to sponsor a
    special type of dive trip, I'm willing to cut'em a little slack in trying
    to entice folks to want to go.  Although for the life of me, I can't
    understand why Nick feels he must offer something special to entice people
    to go to Ocracoke--which is just on the other side of East Jesus........:-)

    I do agree with Dave Waller that straight-out solication for students is
    not appropriate for rec.scuba.  Because of wreck diving requirements and
    the depths of some of these puppies, some folks might not feel capable or
    qualified to undertake this type of trip.  However, if one of these divers
    felt there was proper supervision and training available, they just might
    be inclined to try it.  I viewed Nick's training offer as an attempt to
    fill the dive charter rather than an attempt blatantly recruit students.

    This is JMHO and not meant as a flame or to be disparging of anyone.


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