From: rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Bring On the Cases....
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:56:21 GMT
Organization: CERL-EE, Georgia Institue of Technology

In article <Bw8IqG.B67@inews.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
|In article <71366@hydra.gatech.EDU> 
|rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
|>In article <Bw64vv.8B7@dcs.ed.ac.uk> pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
|>|In article <71237@hydra.gatech.EDU> 
|rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts) writes:
|>|>I don't think a homosexual should be representing a group that 
|>|>sees homosexuality as wrong (e.g., boy scouts) - a group that 
|>|>teaches ethics to youth.
|>|I should hope that no self-respecting homosexual would touch the Boy
|>|Scouts with a bargepole.  I just shudder at the thought of a group
|>|that sees homosexuality as wrong teaching ethics to youths.
|>Is it not that the ethics we advocate are different than the 
|>ethics you advocate?????????
|
|Sure, different strokes for different folx, there is a white one who doesn't
|like the yellow one who doesn't like the brown one who doesn't like the black
|one and so on and so on and scuby duby duby. Richard, we got to live together.

Don't try to blur the line by brinning up racial issues.
This is not a race issue, much less the race issues in the Bible
(and so what influenced some race problems) were put into place to
keep people from following after other gods - not because the
people's skin was of a different color.

|Don't try to force your concept of ethics on others. This is not a melting
|pot where non-Anglo Male Europeans can sometimes pass as Anglo Male Europeans,
|this is a multi-cultural society and you're gonna have to learn how to deal
|with that. You are free to go your own way and do your own thing, give others
|that same "democratic" courtesy or the outcome can only be revolution and we
|will all lose. Peace, but not without equal rights and justice.

I'm saying we all teach ethics - it is just that mine are different than
yours.  It is not that we don't have ethics.

|>Are you not teaching the same thing by saying we are wrong?? 
|
|I'm not up on the teachings of homosexuals, perhaps you know better of this,
|but it's not my understanding that homosexuals teach that heterosexuals are
|"wrong". I certainly have never heard of an initiative like the OCA being
|forwarded by "homosexuals". And I still don't understand what you have against
|homosexuals. What have homosexuals done to you? Are you sure you are not
|being used as a pawn to advance someone's HATE agenda?

You misunderstood.  For you (or whoever) to tell me I am wrong appears 
to be a judgement, doesn't it?  However, how can you be telling me I
am wrong without condemning yourself, for you say I should not say 
homosexuality is wrong.

|>Where do you get the justification for saying we are wrong to teach
|>homosexuality is wrong??
|
|Teach that to your own children if you must.

I will.  Homosexuality is not the only thing in the world that is
wrong, but that just happens to be what we are discussing.

|>Are fornication, pedophilia, or other sexual themes wrong?
|
|Fornication? Do you mean like masturbation or premarital sex or divorced
|sex or non-Missionary sex or oral sex or anal sex? What "sexual themes"
|are wrong under your ethics? Which ones are right?

No. Sex with someone who is not your marriage partner.

I notice you didn't comment on pedophilia - you must recognize this as 
being wrong.

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|Mosaic Law is calling you Richard, check the part about pagan idolatry.

You keep trying, but you don't even know what the Mosaic Law
says in regard to this topic and so whether or not I am violating it.

Sincerely,
Richard Pitts

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