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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:17:03 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 628

In this issue:
                         more One Life To Live
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 626
                                Thanks!
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 627
                University Guide Going Online This Week

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From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Re: more One Life To Live
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: 	Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:32:16 -0600

In digest <9208141717.AA18645@Toto.MIT.EDU> gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU writes:

>By no means will this be close to a complete discription of what has been
>happening on OLTL this past week, but I thought some interesting things have
>happened and thought that I would pass them along.

[Brief plot synopsis deleted for brevity]

>Anyway, there is a brief outline.  I realize that it is nowhere as detailed
>as perhaps you have become acustomed to....my apologies.

>-Mickey McDonald
>-Duke University, ex-home of Christian Laettner

Fear not!  I will take up where you leave off.  I've decided that
I will continue providing the synopses, as you no longer have
time and I do.  So here goes...


OLTL Plot Synopsis, Thursday, Aug 14

    First, a little background... (bear with me, I'm working from
memory.)

    In Wednesday's show we learn that Andrew's brother, William, was
Gay and died from AIDS.  Their father (Sloan) never accepted either
of these facts, which explains why he's been so upset about Andrew's
refusal to quell the rumours that he's Gay.

    Later, Billy comes to see Andrew.  He explains that he told his
parents that he's Gay and that his father reacted badly, essentially
disowning him.  Andrew tells him that his mother, Joey and Alana are
all very worried about him.  Billy tells him not to tell his parents
that he's seen him.

    At this point the phone rings and Andrew answers it.  It's Billy's
mother.  Andrew tells her that Billy is OK.  Billy (presumably fearful
that Andrew will tell her he's there) runs out the door.

    Later in the show Joey and Alana, out looking for Billy, run into
Marty.  They ask her if she knows where he is.  She says she has no
idea and leaves.  But she does have an idea.  She finds him hiding in
the theatre at the community center, drinking again.  She tells him
that drinking won't solve his problems.  He finds this to be a rather
ironic statement coming from her.  She convinces him that she's sorry
for what happened between them earlier, and that she wants to help
him to make up for it.  He asks her not to tell anyone where he is.
She says he can trust her.  As she leaves he asks her to clear up the
rumours she started about Andrew.  She declines.  He asks how, if
she's being so nice to him, she can continue to be so cruel to
Andrew.  She says "You're a sweet kid, you've never done anything to
hurt me.  Andrew Carpenter is another story."

    Vicki talks to Joey about Billy's disappearance.  She tells Joey
that she suspects Billy is Gay, and gets him to confirm it.  Clint
overhears the conversation.  He tells Joey that he shouldn't get
involved in a controversy like this and forbids him to see Billy.
When Vicki finds out about this she is insensed, and they have a big
argument.

    And now onto Thursday...

    In the first (relevant) scene, Cassie and Andrew are fooling
around a bit in his office, and this unknown guy walks in.  Cassie
gets upset, until Andrew reassures her that the man is no stranger,
calling him Jonathan and giving him a *big* hug.  Turns out that
Jonathan was William's lover.  They exchange some pleasantries, and
Cassie leaves so Andrew and Jonathan can talk.

    Jonathan tells Andrew that he saw the broadcast of the protest
rally that Andrew led, and that seeing Andrew convinced him to
come to Lanview to ask him for his help.  Andrew becomes concerned
and ask Jonathan if he's `OK.'  Jonathan assures Andrew that hes HIV-
and "never  felt better."  Andrew is relieved.  He then goes on to
say that something important is going to happen soon, and in order
for it to turn out right he will need Andrew's help.

    Andrew asks "What's up?"  Jonathan tells Andrew that he's afraid
that he may be forgetting William, and that he doesn't want to forget
him.

    Jonathan tells Andrew about the Names Project.  He tells about the
1987 march in DC, how the quilt was bigger than two football fields
and that now it's bigger than ten.  He tells Andrew that he has started
a panel for William, and that he wants Andrew to help him finish it.
He says that the panel has to be ready for the next display of the
quilt in Washington on October 9th, 10th and 11th.

    Andrew thinks this is a wonderful idea, and says that he may have
more free time than he wants and can't think of a way he'd rather
spend it.

    Cut to the country club.  Sloan is reading the newspaper.  There
is an article in it about the protest rally.  The article goes on to
say that Andrew has "dedicated his latest mission to the memory of
his late brother William, a wll known architect who died of AIDS."

    When he gets to this point he becomes furious and throws the
paper down on the table.  Vicki walks in at this time.  Sloan leaps
up from the table and confronts her with the article (she's the
publisher.)  He is insensed that she must have know that a "private
family matter" was being written about in her paper and that she
didn't tell him about it.  She says "Of course I knew about the
article.  I wrote it."  He becomes more upset.  He is worried about
his family name being splattered all over the pages, and asserts that
it is a lie.  He questions her journalistic integrity.

    Now Vicki is upset (and she's been having a bad couple of days!)
She demands that she is "a very good journalist.  I write and print
nothing but the truth."  She tells him he is behaving like a fool
(demonstrating her devotion to the truth. :-)

    He appologizes and asks her to sit down with him.  She does, and
assures him that there is no shame in being scared.  He says he's
never been afraid of anything.  "Well you are now," she replies, "It's
not death, you're not afraid of death.  You can handle that.  It's
living that terrifies you.  Death is easy compared to accepting your
sons, Andrew *and William."  She says that love and family are what's
important, and that by not reconciling with Andrew or accepting the
truth about William that he's wasting what's left of his life.

   Back to Andrew and Jonathan.  Jonathan says he wants to get Sloan
involved in making the quilt panel.  Andrew says that it may be
difficult, as he hasn't accepted that William was Gay or that he died
of AIDS.  He says that he will try and that hopeless causes are his
specialty.

    Well that's it.  Nothing directly about Billy in this episode.
Friday's show will be condensed and presented soon.




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 The truth belongs to everyone.  |  if you're ashamed of what you are.
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Date: 14 Aug 1992 21:10:29 -0500 (EST)
Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by vassar.edu
From: romickle@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 626
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Micheal J. Pastor III writes:
>It's not that I look at every aspect of my life and self as completely
>equal:  I just don't look at myself as anything else but in terms of
>aspects.

What you call aspects, I call identities.  The terms are different, but the
notion is the same.

>I see myslef as a multifacted gem (d30 crystal die for all you
>RPG fans out there).  No one aspect of my self is more important or
>sigficant in my life history or my psyche development than the other.
>When one has held precendence for too long, the others suffer greatly.

How do you establish that one "aspect" has held precedence for too long?
How can "aspects" have deficiencies?

>Ethnic Identity eliminates that view, as individual aspects are
>subjugated to the greater ethnic whole. (you see the hemisphere of the
>gem and not the facets).

Thank you so much for telling me this.  Really, I never knew that my being
black subjugates my being gay to the greateer ethnic whole, or is it my
being gay subjugates my being black.  Of course, my being a brainless,
non-thinking entity, would never be able to reconcile the two, and weed out
the non-sense, including the racist non-sense that I should reject the
notion of identities in the first place.
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         romickle@vassar.edu      \      /  Box 2699, Vassar College
         romickle@vassar.bitnet    \    /    Poughkeepsie NY 12601
"'Cope' and 'change' are directly   \  /      (914) 451- 2031
  opposite...Passivism causes others \/to pass us by."--Arrested
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who do the hard physical work of our society."--George "I'm not racist"
Bush speaking to a group of Hispanic East Los Angeles high school students.

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:29 EDT
Status:
From: ricky@usa.zero6.sai.com (Richard Velez)
Subject: Thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who sent me a copy of a few mailing list
out there, I didnt execpt to see that many replys to that post, I must have
gotten over 25 mail :), which is cool, I like gettin mail, anyway Just want to
say thanks, and I'll catch ya on the Net !.

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:00 EST
From: Jonathan Bell <JBELL@utkvx.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 627

Subj: Wal-Mart number

Ron,

I looked up WalMart's number in the 800 number directory on CompuServe
and came up with this number for gneral office 6805. It was the cloest
thing I could find

1-800-441-0195.

Later,
Jonathan

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 00:23:19 EDT
From: bmcconne@vtssi.vt.edu (Brian McConnell)
Subject: University Guide Going Online This Week

University Guide to go online this week

Just a note for everyone. We should have our university guide
service completed and ready for testing early next week. For
those of you who missed earlier postings on this topic, we are
launching a national, interactive guide to gay/les/bi friendly
businesses, organizations, community groups and current events.

Initially the service will be an interactive voice service which
will be accessible to anyone with a Touchtone phone. Many underlying
databases will be ported into videotex formats for distribution at
no charge. Also, in late 92 or early 93, we plan to launch a fully
interactive videotex service which will be accessible via an 800
number.

If you are interested in experimenting with our national guide to
GLB organizations, businesses and events, just call (703)951-GIDE
(703)951-4433. This is a free call except for normal long distance
tolls if you live outside the New River Valley, Virginia area.
Once you call us, select one of the following:

        0 - for operator assistance
        1 - for help libraries
        2 - to apply for a listing (free) for your organization
        3 - to login if your organization has an account and passcode
        4 - to search our national database (under construction)

Knock yourself out! Please give us a call, and send any feedback which
you have on making the service even better!

Thanx!

Brian
bmcconne@vtssi.vt.edu

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