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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:05:53 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: An observation
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          I believe I mentioned before that I can no longer access the local Nex
t
        Webster, so the "webster" command now connects to a computer in Canada.
        However, their on-line Webster is nowhere near as good as that in the Ne
xt.

Try moose.cs.indiana.edu as the site for the webster command?

G
(It *is* the Next one.  I didn't know there were others that talked the
same protocol in fact...)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:04:08 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92122722520064@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU> writes:

>Thanks, rita.  Just as you said that on Dec 22, the e-mail connection
>went out and only today, the 27th, has it miraculously been restored.


CONCERT
PO Box 12889
3021 Cornwallis Road
RTP, NC  27709

grr@concert.net

	I think they're like $30/mo. unlimited connect time.  They
have a full Usenet feed and offer FTP, TELNET, IRC, etc.





-- 
Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation
rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Orleans
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> >I think I remember from my years of living in N.O. that they pronounce
> >it "Mahnt-Lee-Ahn"....
>
> correct.  But the funny pronunciations are the way we tell natives
> from mere immigrants.  It's also the result of the early cultural
> conflict between the 'Americans' and the Creoles.
>
> JAG

But what kind of extra points does he get??
doris
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:20:14 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: reviews of Krol's book
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On Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:26:13 -0600 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>Ahem, Dan, you, Jim T. and I all reviewed this in CuD not long ago...issue
>4.45(?) or around thereabouts.
>
>-abh

yes, you are correct, though not sure on the issue number.

I just forgot to mention the other illuminaries who had done them....sorry...

the only machine readable ones i had on hand on mainframe were mine and the
one i'd captured from someone on nettrain....sorry....

dan
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Betty's Art/Literature Question
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>Pssssst, Betty,
> It is _The Crucible_.  :-)
>
>doris-come-lately

What was your reason for not joining the game.... huh? :-)

Carolyn
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Jay Leno Kicked Off Tonight Show?

I just heard a rumor that Jay Leno is being replaced by David Letterman
on the Tonight Show.  While this would help save Forever Knight, I hate
to see Leno fired.  Does anyone have any details?

Evelyn Duncan
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Brad's Entertainment Question
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>>You've got me on that one.... well-known actress whose name escapes me but
 I've
>>seen her in many movies.... if it's the one I'm thinking of, she's starred
>>with Jack Nicholson in another movie that I can't think of the name of either.
>>
>>Carolyn
>
>Sally Kellerman, an actress whose career never quite got off the ground
>after that role.  Are you thinking of Faye Dunaway and Jack Nicholson in
>-Chinatown-?

No, she's the one I was thinking of. I'm sure I've seen her with Jack
Nicholson.... perhaps an earlier movie? I've seen her in quite a few movies
so I'm surprised that 'her career never got off the ground'.

>It's an interesting phenomenon to look back on the careers of film
>stars who never quite made it.  An example that I think of is Dominique
>Sanda, who was in Bertolucci's -Conformist-.  This was 1971 or so, and I

Never heard of her!

>was entranced by her presence on the screen, kept looking for her to
>break through (my moviegoing is admittedly erratic) in other roles; and
>she never did.  Saw her a couple of years ago in some forgettable made-for-TV
>movie, and it was heartbreaking.  Downright heartbreaking.  The film was
>about the terrorist hijacking of a cruise ship -- Achille something or other.
>
>brad

Achille Lauro is the only ship that comes to mind.... but that could be a
'real one'..... or was it a teleplay about a real highjacking - wasn't the
Achille Lauro highjacked at one stage.... it's difficult to remember things
after only 3 hours sleep. :-(

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:37:34 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Touchtones and Alternative Librarians
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On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> Channel 10, so it looks like we will be getting more Canadian shows. Is

The mind boggles at the prospect.

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:18:43 EST
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: How I love the winter...

>   If I have to
> eat $60 in Nets vs. Hornets basketball tickets tonight because the
> roads are too icy to drive on, I'm gonna kill something: I was really
> looking forward to watching Drazen Petrovic stuff his elbow in Alonzo
> Mourning's face under the hoop....

Hey, the ice melted!  The List came back up!  The rain stopped!  I had
a poem accepted by _The New York Quarterly_!  The Nets beat the
Hornets, 104-103, and Petrovic DID take out Alonzo Mourning!

I've had bad days, I've had good days: this has been a good day.

Ken
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:03:22 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Holidays
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              24 Dec 92 15:58:44 -0600. <9212242158.AA19452@sics.se>

  Natalie Knows:

  >Exacty what it is varies.  It's rice cooked with various other stuff that
  >makes it look dirty.

  That's great! I'm glad that you haven't yet stuffed yourself with turkey
and fallen asleep in a corner.

  The action will be moving to Montana shortly.
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Nancy's History Question
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>On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:56:04 EST, "Brad Baxter" <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu> wrote:
>> (Laird is Lord; Bairn is baby; what is Baird?)
>
>Beard :-)
>
>G

Just for that, Graham, I think I'll send abh a photograph of me to scan in
which my 'beard' doesn't show. :-)

Carolyn
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 11:57:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Year's Good Luck Foods
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I've missed only one year of not having blackeyed peas on NY's day.  That
turned out to be a bad year.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:00:56 EST
From:         "Thomas J. Lee" <tjl9@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What's in a name?
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Anne Harwell writes:

abh>I'm interested in real-life indicator names. Like a realtor named
abh>Carol Hill, a weatherman named John Winter, etc. Does anyone have
abh>any data on whether real indicator names drive people's destinies?

        I dunno about data, but Frank Field and his son Storm are
weathermen on WCBS-TV here in NYC.  Whether it was the name or fatherly
influence that precipitated Storm's following in his father's footsteps,
I don't know.

Clear skies,
Tom Lee
From: ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay)
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Posted on 20 Dec 1992 at 20:41:43 by Graham Toal
>knowing someone is the sort of person
>who would wear perfume saves weeks of fruitless conversation.

*I* wear perfume, Graham!  But I am likewise allergic to the inserts.
They make me sneeze and itch.  What do you think it means if you wear
perfume?

Karen
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Say Something To Jeffrey

Jeffrey!  HELLO!

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:19:32 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Mousely Matters and Written Slang
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:And why do you find the concept of written slang odd, Graham?  I often am
:exposed to slang in reading.  I would guess that "copacetic" shows up more
:often now in writing than in speech -- although not all that often in either.

I meant I couldn't grap the concept of slang developing through written
language.  Seems almost a contradiction in terms (unless you count
modern net stuff but I don't call that slang myself).  I'm quite willing
to believe however that slang may fall out of fashion and degenerate
to being used only facetiously or humourously.

G
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:04:08 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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> From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
> Several days later Allan told me he was *very* surprised
> that I had not opted for religion, since I was definitely
> "under fire".
>
> love, judith

It could well be the no athiests in foxholes attitude. That's
a concept/phrase I haven't heard before.

All I'm doing is reporting what I have heard, and suggesting it might
be connected with deeply (but, in this case, somewhat unconsciously)
held beliefs.

With due respect for the difficulties and dangers of pregnancy,
I don't recall having heard that it has an aura of certain doom
about it. In fact, mostly I've heard of associations of joy.

Love also, Peter
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:24:11 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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On Wed, 23 Dec 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> You and abh have already performed that experiment I seem to recall.
> (At the clambake; different crotch; green shorts)

Erm, GT, dearest, they were still on me at that time...;-)

-abh
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 29 Dec 92 04:14:13 GMT
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In article <9212290227.AA06768@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk> Graham Toal <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK> writes:
>:Posted on 28 Dec 1992 at 02:11:12 by Anne Burton Harwell
>:>Man, Jim, that's just it. She's right. No sense of humor. Too damn
>:>serious. A woman can say a lesbian is humorless and not be anti-woman,
>:>can't she?
>
>:The thing I wonder about is whether a lesbian can do that and still not
>:be anti-lesbian.  Or whether she is just obtuse.
>
>:Karen
>
>Or perhaps being bi she doesn't identify with (political) lesbians as
>closely as you expect her to?

I doubt that one's expectations have significant bearing on CP's 
position. Paglia, as anyone who has read her would know, makes few
distinctions and engages in categorical generalizations. As she has
acknowledged, those who have "rejected" her become her targets for what
they have done to her rather than for the substance of their position.
Her "intellectual" critiques rarely (if ever) rise beyond simplistic
one-liners and ad hominem. This is fine for stand-up comedy and
demogogues. She feeds many of the negative stereotypes that reinforce
discrimination.
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:59:34 GMT

Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU> writes:

>Aaron on sexual harrassment:
>> >Sometime I wonder if all the poor "sexually harrassed" women of this world
>> >don't actually know how good they've got it.

>Karen's comments on Aaron's analysis:
>> This is such bullshit.
>[  ]

>What she (and //anne// and Susan) said.

>-rashmi

Just one question: is my entire argument bullshit, or are you just going
on the one out-of-context line quoted above?

--Aaron

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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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> As a dear, sweet, little-old-lady, I do know the psychic lift
> that a good-natured compliment from a passing stranger can give.
> One does not need to be pretty or well-built to receive such.
> One does have to have the right frame of mind to recognize the
> intent...
>
> judith
>

Amazing what a little old anglo-saxon vocabulary can do to spice
up a boring diatribe about nothing. I am truly amazed and impressed
with how far this sub-thread has come.
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
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>         --ggs (the one with the silver Miata.....)
>
> If you mention that fucking Miata one more time I'm
> going to ram it up your exhaust pipe.
>
> I hope you read the 672 pending messages.  631 of them were saying
> nasty things about you...
>
> G

miatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiatamiata.....
..............
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Subject:      RE: On the shortage of lives on words-l
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              29 Dec 1992 00:08:44 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:08:44 CST <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>
>Ausbrook, stop following up to every damned posting with vapid,
>irrelevant and random remarks. As Ruth has said, it annoys her.
>
   methinks me boy is confooosed again....it's only tushiebaby's vapid
and irrelevant and random and generally fucked remarks that annoy her.....

cyclops
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (73)
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Neal, thanks for the additional information about Eddie Matthews (swoon)
and Dizzy Dean.

My dad was such an avid baseball fan that we were the very first family on
our street to own a television - all because he wanted to watch the World
Series.  I don't remember the year, but it was also the year of Queen
Elizabeth's coronation.  I remember this so vividly because there was
standing room only in our living room as friends, family, neighbors (and
probably a stranger or two), watched the coronation.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Copacetic
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  >PS early sixties.

  Do you mean that you're from the early sixties? The first "copacetic"
reference in W&F dates from 1926.
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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>
>       For the historically disadvantaged, what is the Prep H. project?
>
> A chronic pain in the butt.
>
> G
>
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>    Vick's VapoRub: what revolting product is this?

Vicks Vaporub Consumer Information Panel:
Relieves nasal congestion for up to 8 hours, eases coughs due to colds, soothes
muscular aches.
CONTAINS: MENTHOL 2.9%, CAMPHOR 5.3%, THYMOL O.1%, EUCALYPTUS OIL 1.3%,
TURPENTINE OIL 4.8%, NUTMEG OIL 0.5%, CEDARWOOD OIL 0.5% W/W.

It can be used as a paint-stripper too. My mother used to make up a look-alike
mixture of Vaseline and Eucalyptus Oil when she ran out of it which worked
just as well and didn't burn the skin as much.

Carolyn
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English peas
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              <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>

On Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:34:20 EST Rashmi said:
>Now don't get me wrong, I'm no food snob, but the thought of *canned* peas,
>petite or not, is revolting in the extreme.  It's just boiled/steamed peas,
>right?   Why not get the frozen hulled ones and do it yourself?  Or does this
>Le Sueur stuff involve something more complicated?

Amen, Rashmi, amen....

I've been avoiding that angle, but agree completely.....if for some reason
you HAVE to eat canned peas, the Le Sueur ones are the ones to eat....but
why not just eat their frozen ones?   or fresh, of course, in the right
season....    canned peas suck....

dan the peasnob
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Neologisms

:       I don't want people who are easily flustered in positions
:       of authority.

> That's fine if you're marking the army officers' entrance exam; seems a
> bit excessive for an accountancy course though, or whatever it is you do.

Antitrust economics, actually.  Because some of my students are in
ROTC, it's good practice for them; those who aspire to run large
corporations will have to develop the skill eventually; if some of
them had been tracked into apprenticeships (which is something my
country's education system doesn't do) they'd be drilled in attention
to detail.

Steve Karlson

Go Packers!
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Subject:      Re: An observation

>         Little Niki made out like a bandit on her first Christmas
> (like there was any question of her not).  She's a happy baby, and
> enjoyed all her toys thoroughly, especially the See N' Say from Auntie
> :). She's just about coordinated enough now to stick her pacifer in
> her own mouth, so it was fun to torment her by holding Peek-a-boo
> Ernie just out of her tiny reach.

The kid likes TOYS?  Watsamatter with her?  When ours were tiny like
that, they'd make their own.  That is, we'd go out and buy them
something like a See 'N' Say, and they'd think the best part of the
toy was the box it came in.

Ken
<weird parents produce weird kids>
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: What's in a name?
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>What *is* your last name?  Do we know that?  I tend to think of you
>(affectionately) as The Wombat, and then for some reason I thought
>*that* was your last name. But now I've realized it's your machine.
>
>Karen

My full name is Carolyn Jeanette Baird (nee Sager).... but 'The Wombat' suits
me just fine - in more ways than one. :-)

Carolyn
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:39:11 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

        They only do if there is a protocol of behaviour for Words-L.
        As I have been informed, no such formal protocol exists.
        I think that is a pity, but if behaviour is determined somewhat
        on the Lord of the Flies model, then my objections are futile.
        I wonder though, that an institution would support such a public
        indulgence in anarchy.

I thought you were a Professor of English?  Have you read Lord of the Flies?
Their meetings were indeed held to a formal protocol (the one which in
Computer Science is called a 'token ring').  It was anything but an anarchy.

Pass the conch, somebody...

G
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