From: u9066624@cc.uow.edu.au (Tippu Hassan)
Subject: Re: Answer for Anisa
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:11:12 GMT

rivk@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:



>In article <1992Oct1.035236.14405@mcs.kent.edu> rayes@Goat.mcs.kent.edu (Mohamed Omar Rayes) writes:
>>In article <1719@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> karr@ukc.ac.uk (K.A.R.Razzooqi) writes:
>>>

>>>   Deep rooted resentment(which you created by your selfs) does not execuse
>>>   the support of the KILLING and RAPE of innocent KUWAITI people.
>>
>>Of all the Kuwaiti people I have known and met, NOT ONE experienced any
>>raping, etc... I am beginning to think that this is a big Public Relations
>>ploy.  

>I've met a few, Sandra.

>>I am not saying nothing bad happened, but certainly not on the
>>scale the Kuwaiti government would have us believe.  And let me remind you,
>>many PALESTINIANS ASSISTED IN THE RESISTANCE AND PAID THE CONSEQUENCE.

>Many did. But many others cheered the occupation.

>>Now you can't accuse ME of being one-sided for "my" people, because I am
>>not an Arab at all!  But I do see the truth, and it bodes ill for the
>>Kuwaitis' "hard-working", "long-suffering" representatives.

>I don't like Kuwait overly much, Sandra, but I can see that someone
>might have a right to get a little ticked off if the same people who
>were a year ago cheering for the destruction of my country were now
>demanding help from it as though it were their right.

>I don't think the internal behavior of the country in question has
>a lot to do with it: that combination of actions is hypocricy. Either
>condemn Kuwait or ask assistance from it, but not both.

>>>   And you say "people finally had the opportunity to voice the injustices"
>>>   and I add " by supporting the thug saddam ,and the killing of the KUWAITIS"
>>>   That realy sounds good to you and your supporters,does it not??!!!!!
>>>
>>WHEN AND WHERE did Anisa openly express her support for that idiot Saddam????
>>You deceptive and pompous personages of unsure origin who are flaming Anisa
>>and deceiving the rest of us (including Muslims) give some proof or
>>shut up.

>She has not supported Hussein personally. She has said openly that Kuwait
>deserved what it got at his hands.

>>such hypocrisy are an embarrassment to me, a person who thinks highly
>>of the PRIDE of MOST Arab people.

>May I someday hear the last of the word "pride" -- it's caused more
>evil and/or stupid behavior than I ever thought possible. What the emir
>did and whether Kuwait chooses to support him anyway is his business and
>theirs, Sandra; that is what the word *sovereignity* means; and neither
>you nor the Palestinians nor Hussein nor the Arab world at large has a
>right to dictate it, in the name of your pride or anything else.

>>Islam is every bit a part of this.  Does not YOUR country claim to uphold one
>>of the highest Islamic standards???  What a joke.  You don't like it when
>>A MUSLIM uses your very religion to question your deeds and deception.

>I thought Kuwait claimed to be secular, at least by comparison to
>some of its neighbors.

>>The Prophet of Allah said:  He who deceives us is NOT OF US!!!!
>>
>>When did Allah endow you with the capability of opening up the heart of
>>another Muslim and determining that they are not Muslim???

>Follow your own advice, Sandra, and look at those last two sentences taken
>together.

>>	Whoever sees something evil or wrong, he should correct
>>	it with his hands; if he cannot, he should correct it with
>>	his tongue; if he cannot, he should hate it in his heart,
>>	but this is the weakest of faith.        

>Ugh. Now I remember why I'm not a Muslim. This strikes me as one of
>the quickest and easiest recipes for total disaster I can think of offhand.

>>You people see what your government has done to Palestinians.  I can
>>understand expelling PROVEN conspirators from Kuwait, but you have
>>done exactly the same as Israel has done; that is, tried its best
>>to expel EVERY LAST Palestinian left. 

>Oh, come on, Sandra; you know better than this! If Israel were trying
>to expel every last Palestinian they'd have succeeded already, or at least
>made a substantial dent in the population. Fact is that to the extent 
>Palestinians are expelled from Israel it's on an individual basis, case
>by case, with evidence of that individual having participated in efforts
>to overthrow the country required and a specific order for the particular
>case issued by the military judge. This slows down the process to the
>point at which expelling much of the population is about as feasible as
>moving the Negev to Hawaii with a teaspoon; yet this is the system the
>Israelis have instituted. If they were trying to get rid of all the Pal-
>estinians they'd've done it totally differently and you know it as well
>as I do.


There are different ways to eliminate a people from the face of the earth.
One of them is to kill their hopes and aspirations and that results in their
eventual extinction. Expultion is not the only way.

					source: THE FATES OF NATIONS
							BY
						PAUL CAVINOUX


>I expect gratuitous insult. But for heaven's sake, Sandra, make it *sane*
>gratuitous insult -- for the sake of that pride of yours that you were
>defending earlier. This is just stupid.

>>Sandra.

>	-Nora
>-- 
>"Light one candle for those who are suffering pain we learned so long ago..."


Tippu [ Hoping you light a candle for the palistinians too ] Hassan....