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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Info on A2024 monitor wanted
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:58:19 GMT

In <Rudolf_Neuhaus.032d@ouzonix.bo.open.de> Rudolf_Neuhaus@ouzonix.bo.open.de (Rudolf Neuhaus) writes:
>Nope ;) Not quite correct. Actually it can use up to 1024x1024. First this
>mode was only available under Amiga Unix, but with 2.1 you can use all the
>1024x1024 Points as well.

Welll. To be most exact: You need the ECS to get 1024x1024, otherwise
the blitter limits you to 1008 pixel wide rasters. The 2.0 monitor
file for the A2024 had an artificial limit of 1008 pixels even when
ECS was available.

>50Hz for 1024x1024 and 60 for 1024x800 is correct. I have one at home and I
>really like it. You don't really see, that it's 50 or 60Hz.

Yes, the monitor has a long persistence phosphor.

Regards,
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From: siera@imada.ou.dk (Soeren Berg Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Memory problem?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:20:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark

Hi all!

I have this weird problem with my computer (an A2000B, with 2 meg memory card,  
a GVP Combo 22mHz accelrator with additional 3 megs and hd, etc.). The problem  
is, that I oftent get a Memoryhead not located, when some application exits.  
This happens on both PD and commercial programs, so I figure that it must be my  
Amiga that's screwed. Also my ASDG-rrd keeps comming up with checksumerrors.

Hope someone has a good solution to my problem (other than selling the damn  
thing.... nah.. I wouldn't do a thing like that :)   )

Later, 

Soeren Berg Hansen
siera@imada.ou.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cmd1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher M. Dunphy)
Subject: ECS on a 600, 500, 2000...
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:26:41 GMT

  The Amiga 600 and many 500's an 2000's have the ECS chips, but from
what I unerstand, they have only the regular style RGB port on the back.
Can these machines, (a 600 say) use the super 72 modes an other special
ECS modes?  Out the same VGA port?  Can you connect a multisync
and they would work?  Which modes will work on a regualr monitor?

	Thanks/....

		Chris
From: atiya@cco.caltech.edu (Atiya Y. Hakeem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Diconix Printer
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:56:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Summary: Need data on Kodak Diconix
Keywords: printer inkjet


Hi!

  I have just gotten a used Diconix printer, made by Kodak.
It's a very small, portable inkjet printer with a parallel
port. However, I have no manuals for it. Does anyone know,
specifically, the following:

1) What voltage and polarity is the battery charger?

2) What do the DIP switches set?

3) What would be the proper driver for use with an Amiga 3000?
   I seem to remember that these printers had some sort of
   Epson emulation mode.

Thanks for your help!


                                         Atiya Hakeem

                                       atiya@cco.caltech.edu
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Can MMR load kickstart into SRAM?
Date: 25 Sep 92 21:17:41 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <Bv3pzn.IDM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller) writes:
> Is it possible for the Mega Midget Racer to load a kickstart image into
> the 512K SRAM?  Since the board is not auto-configuring I can't figure out
> how this would be possible.... can someone enlighten me?

There should be a program called MMR somewhere on the install diskette.
If you run it with the -? parameter it will give you it's usage. I'm
doing this from memory but I think you'd need to do MMU SROM to copy
the KickStart ROM to the SRAm on the MMR (Providing there is any SRAM
present of course.)

CYa, Paul

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From: nordic@cats.ucsc.edu (Paul David Cattrone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Help with ADIDE neede most urgently
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:45:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Ok ok, so i get the adide package in the mail and install it ok
and all but then when it comes to installing the harddisk 
that came with the controller of course i dont make a backup,
never thought i'd need one attitude at the time, and i zeroed
out the file called icdfmt.dat.  This is an essential file that
I need desperately.  If anyone out there has purchased the adide
could you please send me the file called icdfmt.dat through email.
send to nordic@cats.ucsc.edu.

Many thanx real early

Paul
nordic@cats.ucsc.edu
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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrading ROMs on the fly
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:13:59 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Oct2.062653.4493@desire.wright.edu> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
> Has any explored the possibility of using EEPROMs or FPGAs for ROMs?  If 
> an easily reprogrammable type was found that was cheap enough it would be 
> possible to upgrade ROMs by simply inserting a disk and issuing a few
> commands.  No removal of the case (possibly voiding the warranty) would
> be neccessary.

Flash (EEPROM) is now approaching regular EPROM in price, however it is still
much more expensive than ROM.  Also, the FLASH purveyors seem to be avoiding
a common Flash/ROM pinout that would make it possible to use the parts
interchangably for prototyping or where the ease of updateing makes economic
sense.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Re: A4000/Alice
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:51:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.230829.11722@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dmacphee@nyx.cs.du.edu (Don mac phee) writes:
>>In article <jbono.04bq@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep25.201919.15792@microsoft.com>, iank@microsoft.com (Ian
>>>Kennedy) writes:
>>>>Of course others have said all of the custom chips in the AGA machines
>>>>are surface mounted. In that case there will be no upgrades at all.
>>>>
>>>All the chips in the A4000 are surface mount.  However, the entire board with
>>>the graphics chips on it is designed to be replaceable.  This means that when
>>>the fast chipset comes out, you will yank the board with AGA on it, and swap it
>>>for a board with AGAGA on it, and keep your '040 and zorro III boards.
>>
>>   Bullshit.  The "board with the graphics chips on it" is the motherboard, 
>>and Commodore in their entire history has never offered motherboard upgrades
>>for older Amigas.  
>
> You want to know something? Marc is RIGHT! The custom chips ARE 
>on the motherboard. However, not having to replace the backplane and
>the CPU could save a bit of money....
>
> And as to motherboard upgrades, it might make a certain amount of sense
>now to do it. (No CPU, no backplane, quite a savings.) And with the 

   Then why doesn't Commodore do it?  For the A3000, I mean.  Sure, the CPU
is on the motherboard in the A3000, but the A3000 still has the backplane on
a card just like the A4000.  And for people looking to upgrade to an '040 and
AGA at the same time, the costs of upgrading an A3000 to an A4000 with a
motherboard replacement would still be pretty low.

   It might have helped things a bit if the A4000 had purposely been designed
so that the motherboard would just happen to fit into an A3000 case.  This
would have made it easier for Commodore's marketing department to come up with
a motherboard swap program for A3000 owners.  The way it is, marketing has 
to pursuade management to direct engineering to develop a special A4000
motherboard that will fit in an A3000 case; with Commodore's messed-up
beauracracy, this doesn't seem likely.  Maybe engineering will think of this
when they design the motherboard and casework for the A5000.

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From: carl.bannenberg@canrem.com (carl bannenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: congradulations (tm)
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:31:32 GMT
Reply-To: "carl bannenberg" <carl.bannenberg@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

TO: andy@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk
    (Andy Thomas)

Congradulations on your first successful inter-continental post.

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From: set@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Toaster Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 2nd HD problems.
Date: 27 Sep 1992 23:14:18 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

WEll I seem to have this problem with my second HD i just installed.
I have it daisy chained to the 1st one.  I pulled out the terminal resitors
of the first one and left the last ones in.  The drives have differnt #'s 
also.

The problem is when i coldboot my machine my 2nd HD doesnt show up but when
i do a warmboot with ctrl-amiga-amiga it shows up this time.. 

Im using a GVp gforce 030, 2 quantums


any help? are my boot piroties.
messed up?


steve
please email me.
From: Hytec@cup.portal.com (Brandon Lee Worrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP with SCSI DAT drive
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:23:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I, too, am interested in a SCSI DAT drive...  there are a few reasons...     
>(1) Great way to back up my hard drive, plus any future hard drives I may add
>(2) I'd like to be able to take a DAT with audio information recorded on it  
>and read that audio data into my A3000, storing it in RAM to be processed or 
>on the hard drive.  (I've heard of the computer music lab at UIUC doing this 
>on NeXT machines, I'd like to be able to do it on my Amiga.)                 
>(3) Bulk storage is neat, I'm sure I'd find other uses...                    
>                                                                             
>Someone mentioned the Technics DAT drive, but is this real SCSI or some      
>proprietary standard?                                                        
>                                                                             
>Can I actually do (2) or is there a major obstacle to overcome?              
>                                                                             
>Anyway, someone should post info about this to the net... I think there's    
>sufficient interest.                                                         
>                                                                             
>Rob Poole                                                                    
>pooler@rpi.edu                                                               
>pooler@cs.rpi.edu

I have been using an Archive Python 2.0 GIG DAT drive with my A3000T for
over one year and love it.  I have not had a single problem.  I usually
buy 1.3 GIG DAT tapes, they are only about $14.00.  Depending on CPU
load I usually run about 10MB-13MB a minute on backups.  Restores are
the same for complete backups, and getting a single file off of a DAT
tape no matter where it is takes no more then 2 minutes with the fast
forward feature.

Write me if you want more info.  I can tell you where to get new and 
refurbished units.

Brandon Worrell
HyTec Computers
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FAX:        206-456-7657
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy)
Subject: Re: 2091 -> GVP Combo backup. Possible?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:46:39 GMT

mcauli_t@cs.uwa.oz.au (Tim McAuliffe) writes:

>Recently, a friend of mine bought a GVP Combo board with hard disk. I have 
>quite a bit of data on my 2091 HD that I'd like to give him. We installed both
>cards in the same machine but it wouldn't recognize my HD. Then we rebooted the
>machine using the CPUctrl program and it booted from my HD and wouldn't 
>recognize the other one! Is there any way to make the machine recognize both
>hard disks? A mountlist entry perhaps?

>Any help is appreciated.
>-- 
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>

Sounds to me like both HD's have a partition set to autoboot. Disable
autobooting on one of the controllers (VIA jumper) I *HAVE* transferred
data from a 2091 to a GVP and vice-versa with NO problems.

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From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing KS2.0 in rev.5 A500 - bend up pin 31?
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:40:20 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <mani.718242943@raunvis>, (M'ani Thorsteinsson) writes:
> 
> ...but in the directions I got from Grapevine it says that I should...
			              ^^^^^^^^^
Oh, GOD!  Not another Grapevine victim.  Their documentation leaves a LOT to be
desired.  I bought a 1 MEG Agnus from them, and the documentation that they
supplied was a Xerox copy, of a Xerox copy,..., of a Xerox copy of someones
used technical manual.  Also the chip puller that they advertised, was NOT the
chip puller that they sold me. But I'm sure that you're not interested in all 
of that.  Avoid GrapeVine if you can help it!!!!!!!!!!!
  
>    I hope there is someone who can help me out here - I don't want to 
> experiment with these things.. (pin up + pin down = pin off :)

True!

>    And, erhmm.., while you're at it: You wouldn't happen to know also
> about installing KS2.0 in a rev.4.x Amiga 2000?  Any soldering needed?

I installed KS2.0 into my A2000, rev 2.3, and it was pretty simple.  I didn't
have to solder/desolder anything.  Actually, I installed MultiStart II into my
A2000, when I upgraded to 2.0 (with no muss or fuss).
>    Thanks in advance,
>                                    Mani      
>                                    mani@raunvis.hi.is

Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd)
Subject: WANTED: FPU chip for VXL Accelerator
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:23:43 GMT

I am hunting for an FPU chip that will fit a VXL accelerator. I have
a 25 mhz 68882 already but it is the kind with the pins sticking out
the bottom. I believe I need the kind simaliar to the Agnus chip 
which would fit a socket.  PLLC type or something like that.
If you have one for sale, please email me and we'll discuss it.
Thanks

-- 
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loyd@seq.uncwil.edu    2400 Modem         Sony KV-1311CR Monitor 
                       VXL '030 w/ 25mhz 68882     Epson LQ-510 Printer 
                       Tanberg 60meg QIC Tape Drive
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jon@socrates.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
Subject: Re: Network between Amiga and Sun?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:43:23 GMT

thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:

>In any event, the Amiga with A2065/AS225 interoperates nicely with a Sun file
>server.

So how much does the board + software cost?
-- 
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"I bet one legend that keeps recurring throughout history, in every culture,
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From: dhayward@mtroyal.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 6.9 ROM for A2091
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:20:10 GMT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

Does the 6.9 rom exist for the A2091 scsi controller?
I am told that my Syquist 44Mg won't work with my 2500 without
a 6.9 ROM in the 2091.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: caro@uni-paderborn.de (Carsten Rose)
Subject: Re: 1084 Problem
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:05:21 GMT

DENNIS LITTLE (dlittle@sscvx1.ssc.gov) wrote:
: Recently I've been having problems with an original 1084 (I know
: there was more than one manufacturer, but I don't know how to tell
: the difference).  The problem is it will work fine for a while and
: then over about a 5-10 second period, the picture will vanish.  
It sounds like the old problem of 1084:

You have to resolder the pins of the 'row transformer'. That's the thing
which is connected to the tube through a big cable. 

: I've been told by one person that the problem is probably a power
: supply failing, but I'm not sure what rating the power supply is
: or anything else.  Is there a non-commodore replacement part for

I don't think so.

: this that could be gotten from a normal PC shop that will work
: (or for that matter from an electronics dealer)?
: 
: me

Ciao
	Carsten

Carsten Rose, Germany           | Life. That's what happens while
EMail : caro@uni-paderborn.de   | you're thinking about the future
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: marnold@cwis.unomaha.edu (Matthew Eldon Arnold)
Subject: HELP! A500 I/O probs. CIA? maybe.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:00:58 GMT

Greetings Amiga fans.  I need to solicit the wisdom of those in net land
once again.  (Not to mention that the local Amiga tech is a con man.)

Bright one morning my JR-Comm floppy got a read/write error (*GASP* not
JR-Comm --anything but that!)  What does one say about that?  No problemo!
Every disk goes awry after 31,243,564 hours of use.

I then stick in my Workbench disk.  BZZZZZT!  It's gone too.  Not in a 
furry of sparks as I described but unreadable nonetheless.

I stick in a third disk... a fourth.  I destroy some crucial data before
realising the pattern.  Each disk I put in df0: or df1: gets an error.

It's not a virus.  Because each episode of troubleshooting began with a cold
boot and a disk write protected from day one.  I booted and used df0:
exclusively.  Df0: destroys disks routinely.  I booted with df1: (you can
do that with KS2.04 ya know) and used df1: exclusively.  The external
drive was just as efficient at rendering disks inoperable.

Before I continue, let me explain by a fried diskette.  WB2.04 gave me some
of the following errors while trying to read my freshly mutilated disks:
   1) can't read block number XXXX
   2) checksum error (etc etc)
   3) can't validate disk XXX
   4) and more...

At this point I'm rapidly losing disks which boot.  I've also been using
diskdoctor (yes, I know it's a lousy program) to check out the contents of
my disks.  Diskdoctor demands the disk be write enabled (which is no big
deal because both my drives destroy disk whether they're write-protected
or not.)  After scanning the disks with diskdoctor, every file and directory
is bad and needs to be replaced.  

What's that you say?  A CIA problem.  Well, they're cheap.  I guess I could
order them from Grapevine, but what's the chance of Grapevine having them...
zip -- zero -- nada.  (I had to call them to make sure.  Sure enought they
didn't have them.)  I want my computer fixed RIGHT NOW anyway.  I slink on
over to the Amiga dealer and get two 8520 chips.  (I'm not going to tell you
how much I paid for them because I'm too embarrased.)  I put in my new
CIA chips and expected spectacular results.

I copied my original WB2.04 disk.  I used diskdoctor to check out the copy.
Again, every file and directory on the disk is bad.  Regardless of which
diskette is the source or destination, the copy always appear bad.

I'd appreciate any ideas anyone may have.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hello@bnr.ca (Ken Orford)
Subject: Re: 2091 -> GVP Combo backup. Possible?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:52:14 GMT

Jon (s084@brems.ii.uib.no) wrote:
: Tim McAuliffe (mcauli_t@cs.uwa.oz.au) wrote:
: : Recently, a friend of mine bought a GVP Combo board with hard disk. I have 
.. text deleted
: : 
: : Any help is appreciated.
: 
: As far as I know, it won't work.  I bought my GVP Combo six month ago, but
.. text deleted
-
I had a 2091 and 52 Meg Quantum plus another 260 Meg SCSI drive before I
bought my GVP 33/30 Combo (also with a 52 Meg quantum drive). I changed the bootpriority on the 2091's drive to something less than that of the Combo's drive and was immediately able to boot up the Combo AND!! see and access both drives.
NOTE - the dealer ALSO said that they didn't think it was possible but could
offer no technical reason for this - just goes to show you!!! In addition, I carefully noted the partition information for my 260 Meg external drive (which
was attached to the 2091) and attached it to the Combo, setting up the partition information with GVP's prep program, and was then able to access that drive
from the Combo.  All three drives live in harmony now.

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From: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Subject: Re: Photo-CD on Amiga/CDTV
Reply-To: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:02:57 GMT

A guy asked that question at the Keynote presentation given by the Pres of C=.
The big cheese said that no, it doesn't handle that format, and didn't really
think it was a profitable venture to make the CDTV to be able to, since
he doesn't think those CD Cameras by Kodak were selling well enough.

ie: The markets too small for the upgrade to be profitable.

IMO, however, I think Kodak should give C= a hand.  Sell 'em together as a 
package.  (Get Kodak to advertise ;-) )
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