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From: mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Building a MIDI controller
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:49:40 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley  CA

In article <1992Aug25.163914.1@pa881a.inland.com>
                                          delinck@pa881a.inland.com writes:

>    I was wondering, if I wanted to make my own midi controller, if there
>    is a chip out there that I can use to convert contact closures to midi
>    messages. I will probably use 32 notes, so a bunch of 'pedal boxes'
>    will probably be too expensive.

How about an 8751 microcontroller?  With a bit of none too difficult software,
this device would make this task a piece of cake.  I'd use the 8751, rather
than an 8051, for its internal EPROM, which would make all of the 32 bits of
parallel I/O (some of which are used for the interface to an external EPROM)
available for the contact closure inputs.

>    I am looking at a real low cost solution.

You'd need the 8751, a 12 MHz crystal and a couple of 22 pF capacitors for
the oscillator, a 10 uF capacitor and a 4.7 KOhm resistor for the reset
circuit, a 7407 and two 220 Ohm resistors for the MIDI out port.  That about
$25 to $30 worth of parts in onesy-twosy quantities.  You would also need
about 200 mA of regulated five volts.  Make that 20 mA if you use the more
expensive 87C51, which would bring the parts cost to about $75 to $80.

Because it scares many folks off, I'd like to emphasize that the software
for this really is quite easy.  Sure, you would be working in assembler, but
because this is a transmit only device, there's no tricky timing issues.
The task becomes inputing the data from the parallel ports, debouncing it
to ensure noise immunity, and queueing messages to the internal UART in
response to debounced deltas in each bit's status.  Very straight forward
stuff!

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:40:57 EDT
From:         "James D. Johns" <jdjohns@CRDEC8.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      DREAM WEAVER
Comments: To: synth-l@american.edu

OK all you veterans of r.m.s., I got a trivia question for
ya:

What synth(s) were used on Gary Wright's DREAM WEAVER, circa about 1974?


                                      Dave
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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Rackmount sampler recommendations
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

From all accounts, the TX16W is a *bitch* to use. The architecture
is very convoluted. One friend who had it and a Mirack found the
Mirack EASIER to program ! My salesman discouraged me from buying
one. In Keyboard mag's sampler survey, they had similar comments.
A couple of ones you didn't mention that you should look for are
the Emax rack sampler and the Akai S900/950. They are easy to use
and have good sound quality. There is also the Korg DSM-1 but I have
heard mixed reviews. The Ensoniq EPS 16 & 16 Plus are also nice.
Most of these should be available used - check places like Rogue
music, Caruso's, Sam Ash, and Daddy's Junky Music which have lots
of used gear. If you want new stuff, the Peavey is hard to beat.

I have an S330 and would not reccomend it. Sure it is easy to use,
but the lack of SCSI is very frustrating. You are better off spending
an extra few $$ and getting an S550. I would reccomend the S550.

Anyone buying a sampler should get one with SCSI so that a hard drive
can be added. The samples pile up quickly and sitting around rummaging
through 100s of disks and then waiting a minute (or more) while it loads
gets to be a royal pain in the gluteus maximus.

  
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From: root@agon2.sublink.org (Agon)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: WincakePro + MIDI interface + Ensoniq EPS-16/SD-1 (Possible prob
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:12:30 GMT
Organization: Paolo Tortiglione

tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:

> For the MIDI interface I'm considering Voyetra's V-22/24/s/m line of
> interfaces. Are there any other good/better MIDI interfaces I might
> want to look at? Considering the configuration as it stands it would
> need to have an MME driver available for it.

I'm using the famous MPU 401 and for me it's the best and more
configurable, and programmable if you want
Bye
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From: petter@pnilsen.UUCP (Petter Nilsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:10:12 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com
Organization: Ultima Thule Software
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug26.112401.18592@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:

> ------------------------------------------
>  ATARI AT ATARI MESSE - THE NEW WAVE BEGINS
>  ------------------------------------------

Not here too !  Please, take this to .advocacy...

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From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: LOOP-Y (was Free Newsletter of the International Samplers Co-op)
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:03:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	I was surprised to find that in the first issue of this
publication the "free classified ad" that I had sent in to be printed
was nixed without explanation.

	My ad was for a copy of Samplevision and the DP8 sound previewer
for $200.

	Strange that the issue included a huge review of Samplevision
and a big ad from the makers of Samplevision with a retail price of
$450.

	Not a good first impression for me, anyway.

Casey Palowitch
cjp@unix.cis.pitt.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare)
Subject: Re: Proteus Patch Editor/Librarian available via FTP
Reply-To: soh@gdstech.UUCP (Scott O'Hare)
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:03:55 GMT

In article <BtKLn8.C8M@comp.vuw.ac.nz> bernd@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Bernd Gill) writes:
>
>
>Some time ago I developed a Patch Editor/Librarian
>for the E-mu Proteus. It currently supports the Proteus/1, 
>Proteus/2 and XR's.
>
>The program runs on any Macintosh SE or higher with System 6.0 or later.
>

Got anything for the Atari ST? Or know of anything at a seriously reasonable
price? The Steinberg editor for Proteus lists for something like $150 - this is
NOT reasonable..!

soh

 
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:46:00 CET
From:         "CRI/CD/OS; Rene de Bie" <CRISRB@RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      ran4ops.exe for yamaha

(I wonder if my previous msg came through?)
Hi all, I would like to know if sone knows the author off the program
RAN4OPS. This is  a program for MSdos to copy sounds into a YAMAHA
synth(DX21 or others) memory. I have it, but it doesn't work with the
soundblaster Pro card. Maybe the author can do something about it?
Perhaps a mail-adress ?
Maybe somenone knows of a similair program?

Rene de Bie - CRI - University Leiden - Holland
Mail   :P.O.Box 9512 - 2300 RA Leiden - The Netherlands
Phone  :+31 71 277028/276921
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: schabtac@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Adam Schabtach)
Subject: Re: Musician's Friend (was Mail Order Prices)
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:05:36 GMT

> Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
> 1. Musician's Friend 800-776-5173
> These guys are indeed friendly. They have a catalog with a rather large
> selection of keyboardists, guitar and bass players. Decent prices.

In my experience, their prices are unpredictable. Some of them are good,
some aren't. I called them recently for a quote on a keyboard, and the
price they offered was way too high. Buyer beware.

--Adam                          |   I'm looking for a 16-bit sample of
schabtac@stout.ucar.edu         |     the sound of one hand clapping.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov ()
Subject: Re: Why I like the Mac for Music
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:16:44 GMT

In article <NICK.92Sep3135652@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

>I don't have any use for QuickTime anyway. I don't work with pictures. I
>work with dancers.
>
>Nick.

For real-time control of dancers you need the QuickStep system addition. You can
also use it to make your wife's cat do unusual things.  :-)

brian good
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: sbowern02@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Info on unknown button on Roland JX1
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:59:37 GMT

Just some help needed -

I have a Roland JX1 Performance Synth which unfortunately I found not to be
multitimbral, so I use a sequencer to play files through just one midi track.
It has about 12 tracks I can select from but also there is a "SYS EX" button.
What does this do?  I can not find an explanation even mentioning this function
in my instruction manual.

(I use a SB Pro and Voyetra Sequencer Plus Junior)
From: liam@nic.near.net (L. Sean Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DAT-heads Mailing list [was Re: Cheap DAT Portables???]
Date: 1 Sep 1992 20:47:08 -0400
Organization: NEARnet, Cambridge, MA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.near.net
Summary: DAT infomation

In article <1992Aug28.150107.19787@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>Ask the dat-heads ! To subscribe to the dat digest contact one of these:
>
>Internet: DAT-Heads@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU
>
>They have a FAQ with comments, prices, places to get machines and tapes,
>etc..
[edited]

 Shiv is correct in that DAT-heads is an excellent place for DAT information.
His addresses to join are incorrect, and reach about 340 participants. I 
will honor the requests to join sent to dat-heads@fuggles, but they will 
probably be done slower than normal. If you want to join please use:
 
Internet: dat-heads-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu
          dat-heads-request@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU
Bitnet:   dath-req@virginia
UUCP:     ...!uunet!virginia!dat-heads-request

 We have a comprehensive FAQ (which is currently being updated, slowly),
and a current "Market Posting" listing available equipment. Since tape 
price is a concern, we also track prices. fuggles is a private workstation
and does not support anonymous ftp, sorry. You might be able to get the
FAQ from wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu, ~ftp/dat-heads/FAQ. Otherwise send email
to the service address, and mention if you don't want on the list. 

 Sean

PS address questions to the service address, I do not read news, except
on occasion.
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose,rec.music.synth
From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew H. Fields DMA)
Subject: Re: Help in Creating FINALE crescendos
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:15:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.133711.19065@zip.eecs.umich.edu> fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew H. Fields DMA) writes:
>appropriate box.  Controllers are often scaled not in the 0-127 range
>but rather in the 0-8191 range or the -4096 to +4095 range (look this
>up in the manual for your synth), so that will affect the Level Scale
>you choose for your shape.


Actually, I just realized that there are quite a number of other
ranges in use.  A particularly odd one is the Emu Proteus's
implementation of Pan (stereo balance) in the range -7 to 7 (others
often give it at least -64 to 63).  Sustain pedal is usually defined
as either 0 (off) or 127 (on), all other values being ignored.

Also, some synths implement controllers globally, others on a per-channel
basis, and some provide both.
From: cwilson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chris Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Yamaha Rack Mounts...advice needed
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:32:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btwwu6.KL
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>The TX81Z is a nice rack mount way to get FM sounds in to your setup.
>I'd stay away from the FB01 which is available very cheap but requires
>external software to edit patches etc.. The TX81Z is a little more
>versatile.
>
>The TG33 has been discontinued and is available quite cheap. This 
>is rackmountable and gets you FM, plus samples, plus wave sequencing !

NOTE:  The TG33 has very limited control of its FM (2-oscillator,  level and
feedback control only) - it's really probably closer to playing back samples
of FM waveforms. (Disclaimer:  I am not, never have been,  and probably never
will be an FM God.) The samples in memory are fairly decent.  There is NOT,
however,  wave sequencing.  A few of the element waveforms selections are 
actually a "sequence" of samples,  but there is _NO_WAY_ to edit these.
This is kind of a neat effect in some sounds,  but don't buy a TG33 looking
for Wavestation-level capabilities.  The vector synthesis on the TG33 is
quite useful,  though - you can have vectors of the levels of the 2 or 4
elements of each voice, and also of the tuning.  The vectors can be played live
or recorded.  I've been very happy with my TG33.

-Chris Wilson
 cwilson@ncsa.uiuc.edu
 "For I'm too fond of the past,  but look I'm happy at last,
 and every Monday is goodbye Sunday" -Everything but the Girl
From: ruska@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Ruska)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:25:57 GMT
Subject: Re: ensoniq SD1-32 vs. the other workstations
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang) writes:

> In article <20AUG92.15584631@sklib.usask.ca> supplies@sklib.usask.ca writes:
> >If you have had bad experiences with the new SD1-32 please let me know.
> >If you have lots of experience with both the SD1-32 and another workstation
> >that you like better, let me know why.
> 
> I use the SD-1/32 as my main controller/sound module.  I do have some
> bad experiences using the sequencer, it sometimes gives me unknown error.
> e.g. Hesitation between sequences, cannot trigger the drum machine correct,
> cannot follow the sync signal from my 4-track, etc....

I use my SD-1/32 for just about all my sequencing work. I also had many of
the same problems listed above, but they all seem to be resolved with the
most recent OS and sequencer version (I think it's 4.10). I have had *none*
of the keyboard calibration errors or other problems that surfaced with
my VFX-SD. All-in-all I'm happy with my SD-1/32. 

> Anyway, I am not totally FOR SD-1/32 or AGAINST it. 
> Eric  

I've tried everything else (haven't played with a K2000 yet though) and
I'm still satisfied with owning an SD-1/32.

Dave
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Kawai K1-II
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:50:24 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep2.200802.3623@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, you write...
>I recently purchased a Kawai K1-II without the manual (used keyboard).
>
>The problem is, they dissappear when the power is removed.  I've writen
>the sounds (at least, I think I have), and the internal memory is not
>protected (else I wouldn't be able to download the sounds).

Your internal memory battery (probably Lithium) is defective, loose, or dead.
You are doing the correct things, the machine is simply losing it's memory when
you power-down.

This is a user-doable repair, IFF you are familiar with basic electronics and
opening a modern digital device.  You may find that the battery is soldered,
requiring that it be very carefully de-soldered.  The batteries can burst if
overheated, so don't do that!


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From: glatz@emily.uvm.edu (Terry A Glatz)
Subject: Wavestaion A/D help
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:06:49 GMT

 Hi all,
 
  I have a question that might not be able to be answered. I own a Korg        
Wavstation A/D, (killer machine). I am lokkind for an editor to use on my pc. 
I have a Music Quest Midi card in my pc. What I would like to be able to do is have full control over the Wavestaions parameters via MIDI. I have seen an editor
for the Roland sound canvas and other synths. I am not a programer, so I cant
make my own editor. Is there a public domain, or commercial software package
that would allow me to manipulate the Korg on my pc? 
   I have searched and searched, nothing. My friend said he heard of a program
that is a universal editor that allows you to configure it to any synth with    
ease. Has anyone heard of such a program? Anyways, any information would be
greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance for I can't reply to E-mail.  
 
-Terry Glatz

From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:51:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Performer 4? (was Re: Price for Performer sequencer)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

/ hpcc01:rec.music.synth / dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) / 10:15 am  Aug 27, 1992 /

>I've almost resigned myself to the fact that I need *two* Macs: one for
>normal use (color, VM, printer, neat peripherals, lots of applications
>and extensions), and one for music (monochrome, no VM, just a MIDI
>interface, and only apps and extensions required for music).  And, to
>be honest, I'm not sure I'd want both of those machines to be Macs...
>
This is the approach that I'm, er, embracing.  Employee price on HP's
PCs is attractive (well, for some models :-), so I tend to do my
business type stuff on a PC, while the Mac is my music machine.  I
have to upgrade the bidness computer Real Soon Now and I'm agonizing
as to whether to get another Mac or take advantage of the employee
purchase arrangement.  If I didn't dislike Windows so much...

Pete Brooks
>
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From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: T-series: Two special questions
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:58:11 GMT

Hello,

I have two question about the T3:

1) I want to control the T3 from my atari so :
   How do I have an access to the patch-bank B program change?

2) When I want to control my sound modules by the T3 , I have the problem
   that I cannot change program with the number 101-127. 
   Is there another way to reach these patches, except using program change table?
   
 Thanks in advance,
 
       Frank
       
P.S: If you want to take part to my T3-users mail list, please mail me !




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From: jons@tellus.unik.no (Jon von Tetzchner Stephenson )
Subject: PC sequencer
Organization: Universitetsstudiene paa Kjeller (UNIK), University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:30:14 GMT

I am looking for a PC sequencer, preferably running under Windows or OS/2.

I would like a easy to use, but powerful sequencer sporting:

	Editing of all MIDI data (also insertion of CCs and SysExs).
	Support of Soundblaster Pro sound + MIDI port.
	Support of Roland GS or at least General MIDI standards.
	Easy looping, cut, paste, etc.
	Multiple sequences.
	Extract from sequences.
	etc.

Oh, and it should preferably be cheap.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Jon.

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From: kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET (Kyle Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: WANTED: Quadraverb
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:45:27 -0400
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: wendy-fate.uu.net

 > > What is the difference between the Quadraverb and the Quadraverb+ ?
 > > Thanks.
 > 
 > Apparently, the difference is $20.

:-) The QV+ has a few more effects modes, plus a limited sampling
capability.  The QV+ is also hissier than the plain QV.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,sci.electronics
Subject: Formant analog synthesizer - Elektor
From: Rick Jansen <SSCPRICK@HASARA11.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 17:06:46 CET
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

In 1979 the electronics magazine Elektor/Elektuur
published the modular analog synthesizer Formant.
I'd like to hear some experiences from people
who actually built and/or used the Formant.
 
-Rick.
 
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From: eckert@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Toerless Eckert)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:36:43 GMT

From article <1992Aug24.220034.6916@odin.corp.sgi.com>, by archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully):
> The Indigo can read and write the non-audio bits of DAT.  I'll leave
> the implications of that to others.  
> 
> For the digital input, I believe (but I'm not positive) that you have to 
> wait for an OS update to get this capability.
> 
>>And, when will we get similar functionality on PC class machines?
>>
> 
> As soon as the DAT transport manufacturers (eg Archive) put the firmware
> into general release.

*sigh* do you want to tell me, that not only the Toshiba CDROM
drive used by SGI has got a special firmware, but the Archive Python
DAT too ???

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