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From: dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston)
Subject: Re: Skiing in No. Cal, Utah, Nevada (???)
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:57:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.234753.18674@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> maciuca@vehicle.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dragos Maciuca) writes:
>I just moved to California from New Jersey and I was wondering if someone
>could recommend a good place to ski within 8 hours driving of Berkeley.
>
>I would be interested in a 1/2 BR condo that could cost around $250 per 
>person per week (second week of January) including lift tickets.  Please
>send me all the relevant informations (place, condo name, phone #, etc.)
>
>Thanks
>dragos
>
You don't mention how many people are on this trip. That will significantly
effect the price of the trip. If you've seen a map of CA, you know that
Lake Tahoe is within 4 hours of Berkeley. Shasta isn't much further. For
Info on South Lake Tahoe lodging, call the Accomodation Station. USE 411
Chambers of Commerce are also valuable sources of info. 

If you are going to ski for 7 days, on a $250 budget, consider sleeping
in a tent.  Lift Ticks are between $30-$42 per day. Multiple day discounts
are available, but not cheap. Good Luck.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dcling@athena.mit.edu (Douglas C Ling)
Subject: for sale: Olin mk IV 160cm 
Keywords: Ski 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:03:37 GMT




Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: SR049901@ysub.ysu.edu (The Mad Texan)
Subject: Beginner's question-Kneissl skiis??
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:10:00 GMT

I wanted to ask help from anyone out there.  I'm a beginning skiier and was
looking at purchasing a pair of Kneissl Starlight skiis.  I'm a relative
beginner (12 times in 2 yr) and am not out to conquer the world or anything.
Theses skiis also come with Marker m24 bindings.  Any comments about either?
Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.
 
                                                     Tex
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jim@scf16.scf.loral.com (Jim Livesey)
Subject: Snow in Tahoe?
Organization: Loral Space and Range Systems, Sunnyvale, CA
Distribution: rec.skiing
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:18:42 GMT


    Does anyone know if there is snow in Tahoe yet??

    I'm planning to go skiing over the Thanksgiving holiday.

    Is there a number I can call to find out??

    Thanks in advance..  Jim
--

         _/  _/  _/         _/   ---  Jim Livesey
        _/  _/  _/_/     _/_/    ---  Loral Space and Range Systems
       _/  _/  _/  _/  _/ _/     ---  1260 Crossman Ave.  MS-S37
 _/   _/  _/  _/   _/_/  _/      ---  Sunnyvale, California  94089
  _/_/   _/  _/    _/   _/       ---  e-mail: jim@scf16.scf.loral.com 

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From: edb28@bih.no
 (Oyvind Litlere)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Telemark powder ski rec.
Organization: Bergen College of Engineering, Bergen, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:51:35 GMT


 I can recommend Morotto Powder, it's much softer than "Ultra Bultra".
 "Ultra Bultra" is made by Tua. It's verry simular to Tua Cirque.






--
 Oeyvind Litlere
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 - Jesus loves me this I know, cause he gave mee powder snow  -
 -------------------------------------------------------------- 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: gschuck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gary Erle Schuck)
Subject: Re: Double Black Diamonds at Mammoth
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 06:39:59 GMT

In article <1eh6cqINN80q@mizar.usc.edu> lapworth@mizar.usc.edu (Bill Lapworth) writes:
>Dave, how could you!  IMHO a double black diamond should be reserved for
>runs where you stand a good chance of serious injury if a fall occurs, and
>that such rock strewn elevator shafts are the domain of hard core experts
>only.
>
As a frequent Mammoth skiier, I too was shocked at the new map.  However,
let's keep things in perspective.  The ratings at Mammoth used to come in
only three flavors -- green, blue, and black.  The new map uses six flavors--
two each for green, blue, and black.  As you know, Mammoth is huge, and a
first time skiier there may not know which of the old blue squares were
closer to to greens than blacks, etc.  The new map gives a better rating
perspective of the whole mountain.  Remember, all ratings are relative to
the hill that they are posted on.  A black diamond at Mammoth is not
necessarily the same as a black diamond at Blackcomb.  While I agree in the
purest sense that the new double diamonds at Mammoth are not comparable
to other "real" double diamonds, I think that the six tier rating system that
they adopted is a good idea.  Don't forget, this is the mountain with the
easiest black diamond of them all, Patrolman's (which is STILL mis-labeled
as a black diamond).

The real question, though, is how was the snow?

-- Gary


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From: psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS)
Subject: Hows about Telluride?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:05 EST  

Well,
At the suggestion of a friend of a friend of a friend, my girlfriend and I 
are wanting to try Telluride this January.  Neither of us have ever been 
there.  We are both intermediate skiers, although I'm a little more 
aggressive (and physically fit) than she is.  We both can handle steep, but 
she is more comfy with bumps than I am.  I like speed, but she doesn't.  

A few questions:
	1.  How do you get to Telluride?  What airports are near?  
	2.  Although we haven't picked a condo yet, we want to stay fairly 
close to the lifts, and are even prone to a ski-in-ski-out.  I found a 
great deal on one.  Do we still need a car? 
	3.  What's the town like?  Neither of us are late-night partying 
types, preferring a casual dinner, a bit of leisurely shopping, and just 
taking it easy.  
	4.  What type of skier does Telluride appeal to?  Mostly advanced 
black diamonds?  
	5.  How's the ski school?
	6.  Any idea what lift tix are going for this year?

Thanks tons for any other comments!!!  Please e-mail me directly, as I 
don't really have time these days to peruse all the postings!!!

Thanks,
Maureen Burns
From: hudgens@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: RE: The Colorado Skier - Trivia 4
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:10:21 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) wrote:
>In article <1992Nov13.212852.17542@cs.sandia.gov> jrredho@sandia.gov (John R. Red-Horse) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov9.202658.29119@edsr.eds.com> hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:
>>>
>>>North-west of Santa Fe is Los Alamos with its own litle ski area, Pajarito
>>>("Little Bird" in Spanish).  The area offers much more challenging skiing
>>>that either SF or Sandia, but there are few amenities to go along with it.
>>>There is one lodge with no food service or the like.  

Pajarito has food service that is better and cheaper than most areas I've
skied. They built a new, larger lodge this past year which improved this
service considerably.  The skiing is more challenging than Santa Fe or Sandia.
Pajarito doesn't overgroom--but does had 1-2 newlt groomed runs for intermediates.
In March, last time I was there, N. Mex. hadn't had snow for 2 weeks. The 
bumps at Taos were tight and not well formed, i.e., like bumps made by
lower level skiers on short skis.  The bumps at Pajarito still had good
rhythm and were nicely formed--like longer skis can make. This difference
may have mostly to do with the relative trafffic of the two areas--Taos
was skied off on many trails the day I was there--but for bumps that week
Pajarito was the best area among Taos, Santa Fe, and Pajarito.

>>>the local boy scout troop (so I'm told), and is open only on Wednesday,
>>>Friday, Saturday and Sunday.  I understand they are making improvements to
>> ^^^^^^

I'd swear that I skied there on Friday 3 years ago.  All lifts run on Sat,
Sun and holidays.  1-2 lifts run on Wed's. Even so, it's worth the trip
because the terrain is good and uncrowded--cheap lift ticks too.

Pajarito has added some runs which look pretty nice. They weren't open last
year and won't open until a new lift is installed. I heard that may not
be until '93-94.

Jeff Hudgens
From: hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: National Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:59:09 GMT
Organization: EDS Research


>>>What was the name of the great freestyle skier from a few years back?  I
>>>believe he was Japanese.
>>
>>Hank Kashiwa.  He's Japanese-American.  Another one of the exceptions.

Actually, the name that finally popped into my head was Wayne Wong, who, I
would think, is more likely to be of Chinese ancestry than Japanese given
his last name.

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: Bill Webster <wrw1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Marker MRR Bindings
X-Xxdate: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14: 06:16 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wrw1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:02:50 GMT

I have that binding on my Volkls now, and it is supurb.  However, I think
some clarification is necessary.  The MRR has a DIN range of 8-15, which
means it is for experts (or very big people) only.  $125 is fair, unless
you have access to pro-deals.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: ahill@boi.hp.com (Andy Hill)
Subject: Recommendations for skating boots?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:30:01 GMT
Reply-To: ahill@boi.hp.com
Organization: LaserJets by Bill & Dave
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I'm looking for a decent set of skating boots to replace my old Rossis.
I'd prefer something fairly stiff.

Right now my bindings are NNN.  Are NNN skate boots even still available?

Are the newer binding systems worth the cost of replacing my bindings?

Thanks!

Andy Hill
ahill@boi.hp.com
From: bdl@cruiser.uucp (Bob Lombard)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing in No. Cal, Utah, Nevada (???)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:30:40 PST
Distribution: usa
Organization: what? me organized? no way!

maciuca@vehicle.berkeley.edu (Dragos Maciuca) writes:

> I just moved to California from New Jersey and I was wondering if someone
> could recommend a good place to ski within 8 hours driving of Berkeley.

  MMM oh yeah !!! Alta ! yeah that's it ! Alta...  forget Squaw, ugly !
  Mammoth ? toooo L.A., DUDE !!
 
> I would be interested in a 1/2 BR condo that could cost around $250 per 
> person per week (second week of January) including lift tickets.  Please
> send me all the relevant informations (place, condo name, phone #, etc.)

  Actually.. any of the myriad Lake Tahoe areas should be less than 4 hours
  from Bezerkely... :)

  enjoy..


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* Bob Lombard (bdl@cruiser.uucp)         418 Village Center Dr.  *
*                                        Encinitas, Ca. 92024    *
* -Too many toys, Not enough time..sigh...is it ski season yet?  *
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From: nolan@locus.com (Earl "Base Hit" Nolan)
Subject: Re: Ski's
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:38:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.183534.5680@Cadence.COM> jharvey@Cadence.COM (Jeff Harvey) writes:
>
>I just bought 4S's last year.  The going price seemed to be in the $299 - 
>$335 (US) range.  (Bindings extra, of course)
>
>

Well, I picked up a pair of Rossi 7s's for $217 in the Spring of '91.  Last
week I finally found the M48 titaniums for a livable price ($183), not a great
deal but I was about ready to bring the 7s's into service.  So, my 4s's
(which I paid too much for $300), will probably be regulated to being rock skis.
Given the two edge welds, multiple base welds, and all the gashes one could
argue that they were rock skis last year.

earl
-- 
Earl "Base Hit" Nolan				Locus Computing Corporation
nolan@locus.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: joynt@titania.etdesg.trw.com (Robert M. Joynt)
Subject: Closest ski area to San Jose?
Originator: joynt@
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:43:24 GMT

I will be in San Jose early for the Sun User Group conference 12/5 and 12/6
and would like to go snowboarding on Sunday 12/6. What is the closest ski
area to San Jose and what is the drive time? I have thought about South
Lake Tahoe but the travel time looks like 4hours. Any suggestions?


Thanks!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert M. Joynt                                  TRW Electronic Systems Group
Workstation System Manager                       M5/2216B One Space Park 
Internet: joynt@etdesg.trw.com                   Redondo Beach, CA 90278
Phone: (310) 814-1615                            
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: nomi@cgl.ucsf.edu (Nomi L. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Wanted: rental house in Lake Tahoe area
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:51:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

I am organizing a ski trip to Lake Tahoe that will probably include
about 10-15 people.  I would like to rent a house near ski area(s)
in either North or South Tahoe (south slightly perferred) for a
Saturday night through Monday night on a non-holiday weekend.  The
date has not been set yet; the weekends I'm currently considering
are:  January 30, February 6, February 20, February 27, and March 13.

The things we're looking for in a ski house include:
- Close to ski area(s)
- Bed space for at least 10, with more space for sleeping bags
- At least two bathrooms
- Hot tub
- Not too expensive
- Willing to rent for Saturday-Monday nights

My friends and I are responsible, non-destructive people; none of
us smoke.

If you know of a suitable house that is available for rental, please
send me:
- Location of the house
- Price
- Dates when it is available
- Brief description

	Nomi Harris
	nomi@cgl.ucsf.edu
	(415) 476-9890
From: hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Colorado Weather Report
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:30:22 GMT
Organization: EDS Research, Albuquerque, NM

Do any of you Colorado guys have any info on the snowfall at Wolf Creek
over the past day or so?  Apparently a front has come through, and we're
even getting a little cloudy-cold activity down here, but no precip at all.
I'm heading that way for the weekend, and would just like to know if I
should bring out the new bright-and-shinies or the rock skis.  Maybe both?

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Colorado is getting dumped on!
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:29:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.032800.11304@mercury.cair.du.edu> mhartzel@shanghai.cba.du.edu (Mark_Hartzell) writes:
>
>	Denver expects 5"-10", the central Colorado mountains 10"-20", and  
>the SW part of the Colorado expects a little less by Monday night.  I  
>finish school on Tuesday, I hope to see you all up skiing.
>	If you didn't hear, Colorado also got dumped on this past Friday.   

East side of the divide got hit pretty hard - I had to get out, lock 
my hubs, and kick my cruiser into 4wd to make it from my street in Boulder 
out to I70.   Unfortunately, other side of the divide didn't get as 
much.

>I hope the this weather continues throughout the entire season.

Agreed.


-- 
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. | Drew Eckhardt
Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two.		 | drew@cs.colorado.edu
Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix |  
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Subject: BOYCOTT Purgatory-Durango
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:53:09 GMT



It has come to the attention of this office that those responsible for the
nasty, nasty Amendment actually reside in Durango, CO during the month
of January. Week of the 9th-17th, I think.

SHOW 'EM YOU CARE! BOYCOTT PURGATORY-DURANGO!!

jim p.


-- 
Jim Puckett    NTI    puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov     
Madison,AL (205)461-4922  
i need to ask myself.....
***********         Would I rather be right, or happy?         ***********
From: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Getting from Reno to S. Lake Tahoe
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:56:23 GMT
Reply-To: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Organization: Chevron CEPS

In article <19NOV199211561063@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, 
tohall@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Dave Hall (Sverdrup)) writes:
> From: tohall@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Dave Hall (Sverdrup))
> Newsgroups: rec.skiing
> Subject: Getting from Reno to S. Lake Tahoe
> Date: 19 Nov 92 16:56:00 GMT
> Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
> 
> 
>    The title says it. I want to go skiing without having to rent a car.
> I will be in Reno the week of Jan 11. Forget Greyhound. They go thru
> Sacramento to get there (how convenient!). I got the phone number for
> the S. Lake Tahoe Chamber of Commerce. No answer. 
> 
> 
>                     Thanx in advance!
> 
>                              Dave H.


Check with the big casinos down there.  I'm willing to bet they gave airport
trans.  I know there's one to the Hyatt North shore, so it makes sense that the
even bigger hotels down south would do it too.  Harveys, Harrahs, High Sierra 
are
good ones to try.

Beverly M. Zalan
bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com (Chris Heiny 73186 - SETA)
Subject: Re: Weather Channel Ski Reports!
Reply-To: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:57:07 GMT


Sometimes the weather channel (or the cable companies carrying it)
broadcast commercials over regional forecasts for other parts of the
country.  Sometimes they put the local forecast on over it them.  If
the ski forecast is broken into east/west parts, this may be what happened.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu (Chris Webster)
Subject: Colorado Avalanche Report
Reply-To: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu
Organization: Research Aviation Facility, NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:00:37 GMT


 
                         AVALANCHE CONDITION REPORT
Date of report:  NOVEMBER 17, 1992
 
                 ---------------------------
 
BACKCOUNTRY HAZARD RATINGS >>>>>
                     Near & Above Timberline    Below Timberline
 
Northern Mountains            LOW                    LOW
Central Mountains             LOW                    LOW
Southern Mountains            LOW                    LOW
 
 SYNOPSIS: A strg low press systm in the Gulf of Alaska continues
to spin off a series of very weak upr lvl systms acrs the
southwest. As they beat down the rdg of hi press the systms lose
strength, so mostly clds and some shrs tonite and Wed. Good news
is this wl open the door for a much strgr systm later this week,
so you'll want to stay tuned.
 
FORECAST:   For Today:  All mtns becm Partly Cldy. Winds WSW/0-
10; and hi's in the 30s. Tonite: all mtns Mostly Cldy, isolated
shrs. Winds W/0-10, lows 15-25.  Wed:  all mtns Cldy as uppr lvl
moist ovr NV moves in, N&C mtns scat sno shrs, 0-2"; S mtns
widely scat shrs. 0-1". Cont weak winds WNW/0-10. Aftn hi's 29-
39.
 
SNOWPACK:  The backcountry avi haz for all mtns is an ovrall LOW
both above & below TL, and it wl stay that way until a
significant change in the weather occurs. Observers rpt wide sprd
surface hoar devel on  cooler N'erly facing slopes and suncrusts
on the warmer E-S-W aspcts. In the future the surface hoar may
cause problems when it is covered by new sno, but until then
these areas stl offer some good backcountry skiing.

--Chris
From: bbarkey@lark.utah.edu (Brian Barkey)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: snowfall
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:56:04 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

In article <722214978snx@speedy.demon.co.uk> speedy@speedy.demon.co.uk (Jeffrey Holdgate) writes:
>Is there any likelyhood of snowfall in California (Tahoe) for Xmas ?

send me $20 and I'll do my traditional snow dance for you.
Send me $40 and I'll guarantee snow for you.

    :) :) :)

	Brian "let it snow, let it snow let it snow" Barkey
From: astinus+@pitt.edu (Mark E Porterfield)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Weather Channel Ski Reports!
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:39:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>|> d)Seven Springs along with e)Boyne Mountain, just to say the last two
>|> weren't open yet?
>|> 
>I agree. The Weather Channel has always exhibited a strong East Coast bias,
>but this year it seems even worse. You watch for half an hour while detailed
>radar maps of the Northeast are laboriously described. When they finally get
>around to the national radar picture, the announcer stands right in front of
>California ...

I too have no idea....and not that I am all for what the weather channel does
but this might help to answer your question.

Due to the way the appalachians are shaped makes it relatively difficult to
predict the weather patterns.  Seven Springs is plopped right in the middle
of them.  It has often been said that you cannot acurately forcast weather
in this area more than 3 hrs. in advance due to the "hilly" region here.
I've lived here all my life and the weather patterns are real wierd over
a very small area.  The way it is going here I'd bet the base that the
"Valley" and "Springs" had is all gone.

Mark E. Porterfield
From: jl0h@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN DONALD LAESSIG)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Question: Are Dynastar Course skis any good?
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:02:17 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi,

I am thinking of purchasing Dynastar Course skis (180cm) for my girlfriend.
She is a low-intermediate and likes to ski slow.  The skis come with Salomon
647 bindings.  Are these good intermediate skis, and is this a good deal for
$125.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks!

"Ski straight;  if something gets in your way turn."

-- 
John D. Laessig
Physics Building #16
Lehigh University
Bethlehem, PA 18015
From: hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: National Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:55:18 GMT
Organization: EDS Research, Albuquerque, NM

In article <SSH.92Nov13093055@snow.boulder.ibm.com> <ssh@vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>Not that the Nat'l Brotherhood of Skiers aren't a fun bunch (they are a largely
>African-American ski club), but 10,000 *real skiers* on the slops of Vail in
>addition to a "normal" crowd would be a killer.

Really?  A ski club for African Americans?  I have noted throughout my some
25 years of skiing that skiing is one sport where you simply do not see
many black people, and I think the reasons are obvious.  But society is
changing, maybe not fast enough for some, maybe too fast for others.  I'm
trying to picture someone like Herschel Walker, growing up in Taos, skiing
from day one--what kind of a world cup competitor would he be?  Look out,
Alberto!

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chrism@fraser.sfu.ca (Chris J. McKee)
Subject: Whistler/Blackcomb this weekend!!!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:57:30 GMT

Although Whistler and Blackcomb have planned to open Nov. 25/26, there is a
snow warning up for Whistler and if they get a good dumping of snow, expect
it open early...maybe this weekend!!!  See you up there!!!

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