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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Islam articles
Date: 8 Sep 1992 01:01:36 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

All right, so we have all these upset netters because of this intrusion of
Islam postings.  But at least, East Asians should be greatful that Muslims
don't consider Buddhists their #1 threat.  Why, Salaman Rushdie could just
as easily write a sequel bestseller, "Buddha, You are a fat Sonofabitch."
Actually, the degree of separation of gender roles in traditional Japanese/
Confucian culture makes it not too distant from certain aspects of
Islamic cultures.  Even today, office secretaries, who are invariably
women who meet certain specifications of modest dress and conduct, are
not expected to share food or drink with male workers, because it is thought
such intimacy will provoke inappropriate relationships.  So for those of
you Yankee Imperialists out there, don't buy 2 apples for lunch & toss
one on the secretary's desk, or you will have one upset secretary.  Unless
she's all Americanized & fucked-up herself or something.

What distinguishes Japanese feminism from Western feminism the most is the
lack of will to assimilate to male behavior.  Whereas in the West, most
feminists will take on a manly act in the spirit of racial integrationism,
over in Japan & other Islamic cultures women believe in separate but equal
doctrines.  Anyway, we shall see if Japanese cities won't become
Americanized, in that everybody lives in the suburbs & the inner cities
become ghettos.  So in a few decades some subway lines in Tokyo may become
hazardous locations.  With rude Arabic graffiti all over the subway 
cars & Buddhist temples, where the Buddha's face gets blown off because
traditional Islamic culture forbids the portrayal of the face.  That's
some lost face!  The Bahai religion, which can arguably be described as a 
unitarian derivative of Islam, is already strong & spreading in Japan.
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Date: 10 Sep 1992 11:52:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

jfriedl@omron.co.jp (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:

>Most people wishing to enter Japan (or any wealty country) are certainly not
>tourists. They are people wanting a better life in a more affluant country.
>Were all to be let in, they would quickly overburden the social welfare
>systems of the country, destroying it both for themselves and those that
>have spent their lives building and contributing to it (i.e. the citizins).
>This is why just about every country in the world has immigration procedures.
>It's not a pretty thing... it would certainly be nice if everyone all lived
>together in one big happy world, but unfortunately that's not the case.


Have you considered a carrier in the US Immigration and Naturalization
Service?  You probably make it to the top in no time. :)

The need for enforcing immigration laws does not necessarily justify
immigration service personnel to treat aliens badly as if they are
dirt. I'm sure a civilized country such as Japan bestows fundamental
human rights for their citizens as well as aliens lawfully admitted
to her soil. "Fundamental" means that you don't have to beg for it
as such rights are transcendental. Believe it or not, the USA 
generously gave me the same degree of human rights enjoyed by
their citizens without asking and I didn't kiss anyone's ass as 
I enter. :^)              

Keis Ohtsuka

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:49:54 GMT

Few points in reply to Keis Ohtsuka:

In article <193tjgINNh04@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
>... No sane Russian politician want to be remembered as the guy
>who handed four Kuril Islands to Japanese for nothing.

Being a bit sarcastic, it surely won't be for nothing, and
wasn't it "insane" Gorbachev, and Yeltsin himself that agreed
on the arms reduction with the US, which is greatly disadvantageous
to Russia?

>...[some decent discussion deleted]

>Adding to YH's note on Etrofu Island, the Japanese Imperial
>Navy chose Hitocupp (sp?) Bay because the depth of water
>is similar to that of Pearl Habor. They practiced launching
>torpedoes in shallow waters before they set out to attack
>Pearl Harbor.

Are you sure about this?  I haven't heard of it, though I do know
that the kind of training you described took place at Kagoshima-Bay,
on the other end of Japan.  With shallow waters, Sakurajima likened
to some Oahu mountain, and also, with a nearby naval air base.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Cost of Living In Musashino
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:36:04 GMT
	<1992Sep9.043846.11721@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp's message of 9 Sep 92 04:38:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.043846.11721@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp> d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
   (Daisaku Itasaka) writes:

 =}In article <1992Sep9.004217.3493@bnr.ca>
 =}	   davev@bnr.ca writes:
 =}
 =}>My wife, daughter, and I live in a 2LDK in Musashino-shi, just
 =}>about 10 minutes north of Mitaka station on Chuo-sen.  
 =}>
 =}>We did look at different 2LDK places and found that the price
 =}>range (quite wide) started at about 170,000/month.
 =}
 =}Wow! That's no less than three times my rent.
 =}Are you a company executive or something?
 =}An average salaryman like me can never afford to pay that much.
 =}If I got married, there should be absolutely nothing left after
 =}paying such an extraordinary expensive rent every month,

   Since I recently did the Japanese walk-about (walking to all of the
rental agents to find a good, reasonably priced apartment) in the Tokyo
area (including Musasino) then I thought I might be able to add a bit...

   In the Musashino area, anything over a 2K apartment that is within
a reasonable walking distance to the station will run more than 120,000.
Most of the 2LDK I looked at were around 180,000...

   I was lucky enough to find a 2LDK in Nerima for 130,000...  A bit out
of my way, but the best I could find in Musashino was 160,000 (cheaper
places were advertised, but none of them were available)...
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:8027 austin.general:2958 ut.general:1
From: trent@cs.utexas.edu (Scott Ross Trent)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,austin.general,ut.general
Subject: Japanese Film Festival at UT-Austin
Date: 13 Sep 1992 17:53:58 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: tokio.cs.utexas.edu

Information from a flier:

OZU FILM FESTIVAL

Held every Tuesday at 6pm September 8-October 20
Hogg Auditorium at the University of Texas

September 8:	I was Born, But...
September 15:	Passing Fancy
September 22:	A Story of Floating Weeds
September 29:	The Only Son
October 6:	The Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice
October 13:	Brothers and Sisters of the Toda Family
October 20	Record of a Tenement Gentleman

Yasujiro Ozu is considered the most "Japanese" of all Japanese directors.
His films are full not only of Japanese attitudes toward life, but also with
shots that demonstrate the Japanese ideas of beauty, sadness, and the
transitory nature of things.

This series includes Ozu's early films from 1932 to 1947, shown in
chronological succession.

The Ozu Film Festival is sponsored by the University of Texas Center for 
Asian Studies in conjunction with a film class on Ozu taught by Dr. Lynn
Burson.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

scott trent
trent@cs.utexas.edu
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1992Sep9.062023.28070@usl.edu>, pssres12@ucs.usl.edu
(Vignes Gerard M) writes:
=> 
=> 			     WANTED
=> 
=> 	Attractive,  independently  wealthy  Japanese woman
=> 	for financial support and romance.    I am 35 years
=> 	old, male heterosexual,   seeking companionship and
=> 	financial support.  If you are interested and would
=> 	like  to  learn  more  about  me,  please write to:
=> 	Gerard Vignes,   USL PO Box 42709,   Lafayette,  LA
=> 	70504 USA.   Please send picture.
=> 
=> 						Gerard
=> 
=> PS.	I tried sending this to Radio Japan,
=> 	but they declined to air it.
=> 	Does anyone know what Gajin means?

Oh Gerard, you're such a card! Everyone knows "gaijin" is
the Japanese word for "Cajun". Whatta guy!

Hey.... make sure you send us some gif's of your wedding,
and let us know how rich she is. If this works out for you,
a lot of people may want to try it. I can just imagine all
those wealthy Japanese ladies, sitting before their computers,
scanning INTERNET for marriage propositions.... or even
just propositions. I never thought of it, but there's probably
thousands and thousands of 'em.

But.... didn't you mean "Please send bank statement"?

PS - I couldn't possibly imagine why Radio Japan would refuse
to air that add. Seems like some sort of discrimination. I'd
be really pissed if I were you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: magnus@jaist-east.ac.jp (Magnus Halldorsson)
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Organization: School of Info Science, JAIST Hokuriku, Japan
	<1653@frf.omron.co.jp>
	<1992Sep10.034555.11239@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<1654@frf.omron.co.jp>
	<HARKCOM.92Sep11095252@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:35:06 GMT


>  [...] a post that was complaining about how
>   screwed up Narita airport is. [...]
>   He criticized the same aspects of the design that the Japanese are always
>   criticizing...

I really don't understand what the problem is. I'd say Narita is doing
pretty well. The following are my experiences, from 5 entries:

- When done at immigration, the luggage has always been ready.
- The average from the time the plane lands, to the time I'm out of
customs is 45 min.
- No really long walks.
- Free carts that get you from customs, to the escalator above the
platform.
- No hassles from irate, or illiterate officials.
- The trains stop right underneath the terminal building (recent improvement).
- Good variety of restaurants.
- Sumo World sold at the Kiosk.

The only, and the real, problem is the lack of *domestic* flights to
and from Narita (due to its smallness). That makes going abroad damn
tough for us on Japan sea side.

Magnus

P.S. In summary: Geez, go whine in a bucket. :-)
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Narita airport throughput
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:34:28 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Advanced Intelligent Communication Systems Lab.,Sendai,Japan

I've got a question for all guys who frequently use  Narita. I am just
interested in how  long it took you from  plane touch-down to entering
the main lobby (i.e. delay by immigration and customs).

The reason for my question is a pretty tight  schedule which my travel
agent draw up: I'll arrive at 20:40 (on a Sunday) and _have to_  get a
bus in front of the airport building at 21:30. Otherwise I'll be stuck
the night in Tokyo (loss  of time and  money :-(. Do  you think it  is
possible to get through in less than 50  minutes?   I have an alien ID
card, therefore I could look for the queue  that is shorter (and later
turns out to take  longer :-). If  all of  you tell me ``no way!'' I'd
look  for another flight (would be  difficult though). I remember last
time it took me more than 2 hours,  but that was during afternoon peak
hours.

Please answer by e-mail. If anybody in interested I'll summarize to
the list.

Thanx,

Thomas
From: cb522@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cathy Atwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hentai Mags
Date: 9 Sep 1992 01:06:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The following book would be of interest, if you are following
this thread:
Pink Samurai: Love, marriage & sex in contemporary Japan
by Nicholas Bornoff, Pocket Books, 1991
It is not that well written, but it has a wealth of information
not found elsewhere, as well as the sexual reading on topics 
which are in other sources but not explained in this manner (e.g.
the mythology of Japan).
This book was on the remainder shelf at Dalton's at the 
beginning of the summer.  This hardback edition may still be
floating around.

Cathy Atwood
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Troublesome words (was Re: Mythology Gods)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:21:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.162418.6485@cs.ucla.edu> kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa) writes:
>ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>: 
>: 	Any other example of strange words that share the similar sounds in two
>: 	langauges, i.e. between Japanese and English or whatever?
>: 
>
>An English word "ch*nch*n" (speech, cheers!) means a "male chicken" 
>in Japanese.
>
>Many Japanese tend to pronounce "Calpis"(Japanese lactic acid beverage) 
>as "cow pi..(beep)".
>
>"taverner" and a Greek word "taverna"(restaurant) coincide with a
>Japanese word "Taberuna" meaning "do not eat".
>
>I often see signs of "CALL B*X" in freeways. Does CHP admit
>prostitution ?  :-)

Wasn't it someone on this newsgroup who posted about their teacher, who
when being cmplimented on her fine apartment (had invited the class home
to her) and expensive taste, had replied "watashiha, bimbo desu."
Well, I don't think 'bimbo' means quite the same in Japanese as in
English... ;-)  

>
>A Danish word "mad"(food) happens to mean crazy in English.  So you will 
>see many racially offensive messages as "Japansk mad", "Amerisk mad" etc
>in Denmark. :-)
>

We had a thread on names on soc.culture.nordic - some english names are
very funny in Norwegian, and vice versa. Here is a few:
Eng         Nor
---------------
Mark        "worm"
Steve       "stiff" (especially something that becomes stiff...)
Brent       "burned" (Met a _fireman_ once who was called Brent... He never 
                      did understand why all the Scandinavian girls thought
                      his name was so funny...;-)
Nor         Eng
---------------
Odd         "strange"
Even        "Even"  (how about twins - Odd & Even!)
Randi       "horny" 

etc etc...  

>Good news !!!
>
>In article <1992Sep10.041837.9779@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:
>>		A  REWARD  OF  $10,000   FOR  INFORMATION
>
>Mr. Vignes Gerard seems to have found an excellent patroness, a WEALTHY
>Japanese woman to afford the reward.  :-)
>
>Nobuyasu KANEKAWA


Regards,
Thor

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pham@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Michael Pham)
Subject: Test
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:16:37 GMT

This is a test
From: lkress@reed.edu (Lucien Kress)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Internet access in Japan
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:41:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep10.034148.12540
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I have a friend in Japan with a Mac and a modem.  How can he get
access to internet email cheaply?  I will be deeply grateful if
you can help me.

lucien <lkress@reed.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel)
Subject: SLANDEROUS MESSAGES
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:47:50 GMT

About a week ago somebody sent offensive messages using my user-id.

Later I sent

Somebody has sent offensive messages using my user-id.
I am sorry that this has happened.
This has been very upsetting.

Please do not repost the original letter.  Some people have reposted it
in some newsgroups.

Thankyou.
-Dan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: Mythology Gods
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 04:37:24 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
:   BTW, as I understand it, Yebisu beer is named after Ebisu, and Ebisu Station
: close to the brewery is named after the beer. Is that correct?. Does anyone
: know if and where I could find Yebisu beer in the mid-Atlantic region in 
: the US?

P...please do not use the troublesome word "Y...(beep)".  :-)

* begin (I am serious)

:   BTW, as I understand it, Yebisu beer is named after Ebisu, and Ebisu Station
: close to the brewery is named after the beer. Is that correct?.

I think it is correct, as far as I know.

Aside from this, the beer company tried to export their beer to
Russia, in Meiji era.  But no Russian bought their beer because
"Yebisu" coinsides to a Russian word means "p...(beep)" (a synonym	
for "kitten", slung).  Then they changed the name.

I heard "Exxon" changed the name, too.  Because the old name "ENCO"
means "engine trouble" in Japanese.

* end (I am serious)

Pardon me, Russian female readers. :-)

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Narita airport throughput
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:46:46 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <THOMAS.92Sep12143428@bass.aic.co.jp>, thomas@aic.co.jp
(Thomas Johannsen) writes:
=> I've got a question for all guys who frequently use  Narita. I am just
=> interested in how  long it took you from  plane touch-down to entering
=> the main lobby (i.e. delay by immigration and customs).
=> 
=> The reason for my question is a pretty tight  schedule which my travel
=> agent draw up: I'll arrive at 20:40 (on a Sunday) and _have to_  get a
=> bus in front of the airport building at 21:30. Otherwise I'll be stuck
=> the night in Tokyo (loss  of time and  money :-(. Do  you think it  is
=> possible to get through in less than 50  minutes? 

Getting through Narita in 50 minutes at that time of night is probably
not so bad. But shouldn't you be more concerned about the possibility
that your flight might be late, causing you to miss your ground
transport? By my experience, probably less than 50% of flights will
arrive on time, usually due to late departures from the US.

- Bill
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: c60a-lm@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Gagan Arora)
Subject: Meaning of a Sentence
Followup-To: c60a-lm@danube 
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:26:56 GMT

Could anyone fluent in Japanese language tell me what the phrase

"V(pre-masu) takunakunaru"

means?

Arigato gozaimasu.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mythology Gods
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:43:23 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>In article <1822@hsdndev.UUCP> rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:
>.....
>>      I add a few Gods from other myth.
>>       "Ebisu"
>>            God of Commerce

...

>  BTW, as I understand it, Yebisu beer is named after Ebisu, and Ebisu Station
>close to the brewery is named after the beer. Is that correct?. Does anyone
>know if and where I could find Yebisu beer in the mid-Atlantic region in 
>the US?

Ebisu-cho is the Sakaisuji line in Osaka; I believe it's the same
kanji. It's where you get off to buy pasocon and other electronic
trinkets and toys.

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tad2@RandB.CC.MsState.Edu (Terry A. Donaghe)
Subject: Looking to Correspond...
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:37:12 GMT

Hi,
I'm looking to correspond with someone who has worked or is working
in Japan as an English teacher with one of the English school chains.

This is what I'm interested in doing upon graduation, and I'd like to talk
with some people that have been where I want to be.

Anyone that knows anything about these kinds of jobs, please respond as well.

Send email to:

TAD
tad2@ra.msstate.edu
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:44:09 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

[* history omitted to get to the point *]

>The 1956 treaty that restored diplomatic relationships between Japan
>and USSR mentioned two of the four islands (Habomai, Shikotan) to be
>returned in "the near future", which is not fulfilled to date and also
>opposed by Japanese factions which called for all four islands to be
>returned together.

This is so. But there is nothing in the treaty that says what time
frame the "near future" is in. For example, according to various
members of the Japanese govenment it will be perhaps centuries
before the true causes for the war will be determined. And/or people
have been waiting for Christ's second coming for almost two thousand
years. So maybe we should just take a break from worrying and let it
happen in it's own time.... 

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mythology Gods
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:58:16 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:

>>We are giving our workstations names of Gods from mythology. 

In case you don't know 'aegis' (the name of the machine I am posting
from) is the name of the shield of Zeus, the chief the Greek Gods,
and that of his daughter Athena, the Goddess of wisdom, fertility,
the useful arts and prudent warfare. 

Right now it's both the name of the site and the uname of the
machine but there will soon be a pair of machines called 'shiva' and
'shakti', the male/female name of a single Hindu entitity. 

>>We are also interested in Japan Gods.
>>Can anyone mail me a list of at least 11 God names?

>   I don't know Japanese Gods and Goddesses in detail.
>   Anyway, I show you 11 gods and goddesses from 'Kojiki',
>Japanese eldest mythology.

AH HA! I've been looking for an English translation of the Kojiki
for a long time. If you/anybody knows of where I could find one,
would you please let me know? 

>    "Izanagi"(God)
>    "Izanami"(Goddess)
>            This couple made Japan. All Japanese islands except 
>         'Hokkaido' are their children.

Not sure, but people have told me that this is similar to Shiva
(God) | Shakti (Goddess).  And also the non-personalized In (male) |
Yo (female). 

[* interesting an informative list of God/Goddesses omitted *]

>       "Tenjin"
>            God of Studies. Originaly this god was a real human,
>          Michizane Sugawara, who was a brilliant scholar and
>          governmental offical.

While I live in Nagaokakyoshi, the name of the Hankyu station is
Nagaokatenjin. And the main shrine is Nagaokatenmangu (sp?).  Many
students and/or their parents come to write their wishes on the
small wooden boards (forget the name) that hang in front of it. 

>   Is this helpful for you?

Very helpful for me! Thanks for putting it up.

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan