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From: mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo)
Subject: Re: Marshall 30th Anniversary Amps
Organization: Computing Centre, McGill University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:43:36 GMT

In article <81234@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) 
writes:>I am seeking opinions, and local prices in your area, on the new 
Marshall 30th>anniversary amplifiers:  the 100W 6100 Head, and the 6101 
combo version.
>They have the following features, among others:

>3 channels: high gain Lead, Clean, & crunch
>compensation switches for single coil pkups
>MIDI control!  128 channel presets, Midi footswitchable:  amp stores info 
when>powered down.
>Low volume compensation switch
>effects loop
>compensated XLR output (like a Red Box or SansAmp)
>half-power option
>pentode/triode operation


>i have not heard it in action yet, but it has all the features i want...
>Can anyone add to this information?


>-- 
>"in this day & age...music performed by humans?...Hum?! - Wilde Silas 
Tomkyn >"Walking the fine line... between Pagan and Christian...." - Steve 
Vai>Brian King - Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta: gt6851a@prism.
gatech.edu 

      I've tried out both the combo and the head through the corresponding
30th Anniversary 4x12 cab and it sounds great!  I didn't expect much from
the clean channel since I've been playing with Fenders for over 10 years, but
it really surprised me.  It has a very sparkly clean sound which can be 
driven into a slight crunch in the higher gain settings.  The crunch channel
has 3 modes (A,B,C) which are selectable via two push-button switches on the
front panel.  They basically add successively more gain.  Mode C has almost
as much (if not the same amount) of gain as the lead channel which is very
hot (though not quite as outrageous as say a Mesa Rectifier IMHO).  There's
level matching on all of the rear mounted outputs and variable speaker 
dampening to loosen up the low-end for that classic Marshall "knock".  Since
there's no reverb, you'll definitely need outboard efx processing so you 
should factor that into your price too.  It's MIDI capabilities are limited
to channel selection (clean/crunch/lead) from an external midi controller/
efx device (i.e. you can't program gain/volume/tone settings).  If you need
that capability, try checking out the Marshall JMP-1 or Mesa/Boogie Triaxis
preamps.  It goes for about $2K in Montreal, Canada.

Good luck,
Mike (The Dr.) Woo
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Leonard Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Strat set-up ?'s
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:12:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Anyone want to share some set-up pointers on a Strat. It's a 72 with the
infamous micro-tilt crap on it, i need to know about truss-rod adjustment,
and pretty much anything to improve the action. I have to have the action
at least a meduim height because of the neck radius it will "fret-out" when
bending......Any suggestions...ists024@uabdpo.....L.W.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth
From: lhep_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Leonidas Hepis)
Subject: Stop me from buying an SY35! (sell your used equipment!)
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 02:09:02 GMT

Hello there!

Yes, this is one of those "what synth to buy?" messages disguised!  I know that
the net gives good advice and maybe I'll get offers from people who want to sell
their equipment. (anyone with a used Proteus+Orchestral?)

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE:
  -Good string sounds (such as samples in the K250 (Kurzweil)).
  -Strange sounds, which I would define as haunting, ethereal or weird, rich
percussion sounds. (this probably has to do with the programmability of the
machine)
  -At least 8 different timbres (drums counting as one)
  -Polyphony: 16 notes sound ok, although more are also likely to be used.

WHAT I LIKE OR DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE SY35 (for $750 incl.tax)
  -The keyboard has a good feel, and I have no reason to believe that it won't
be a good master controller (do you?).
  -Has a drum voice that sounds ok to me.
  -The polyphony is based on the number of elements (32) which means that if I 
use 4-element voices instead of 2-element, I only get 8 notes polyphony.
  -Won't accept new samples - only new vector data.
  -Looks less programmable than a DX7II! (i.e. you have less control on the
timbre ==> smaller variety of sounds possible).  Is this true?


I would have loved to buy a Korg EX, 01/W or SY77 but I don't have the money.
Perhaps in the future I will get a used Korg SR or a used M1r or something.  I
suppose I could pay a little more than the $750 if I get a good deal on used
equipment from the net.  Please e-mail me any suggestions/offers/advice.
Thanks!

-leo

ps. (i have no other keyboard)
-- 
How can I believe in God when every time I get kicked in |Leonidas Hepis
the pants it hurts ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SPLEEN ?! When  |
that happens to me I see NO Intelligent Divine Designer! |lhep_ltd@uhura
I see chaos and stars and birds flying around my head :) |.cc.rochester.edu
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From: ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Marcel Carlsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Mackie 1202
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:37:02 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I was wondering if anyone out there has rackmounted this thing, if
so how many spaces does it take up and does the unit come with ears
for rackmounting??

Also, all I have heard about this unit is good talk, what are some
negative points???

Bananas at large in the Bay area sells it for $329, is this a decent
price or can you get this mixer for under $300 somewhere???

Thanks,

	ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu
From: dux@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Frank Dux)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Yamaha PF2000 - info needed!!!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:51:13 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: uhura.fmi.uni-passau.de
Summary: need info about yamaha pf 2000 : price, qualities etc...
Keywords: yamaha pf2000, music

Hi folks!
I've got an offer for a YAMAHA PF 2000 keyboard and like to know
more about it. I don't know this model at all. If anyone has any experience
with it, please tell me something about it. I'd like to know the price
(new/used) and special qualities.
Please e-mail me direct, as I don't read this group often.
Thanx,  Frank
From: doit@ihspb.ih.att.com (45261-Roeseler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Band Partnership Agreement
Keywords: Taxes, Liability, Royalty Fees
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:33:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1993Jan26.163322.24130
Reply-To: a.roeseler@att.com
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Originator: doit@ihspb


My band is now at a stage where we are gigging on a regular basis
and draw some money. To have legal aspects of our `business' covered,
we are thinking of drafting a partnership agreement. It is our
understanding that a partnership agreement makes us eligible to receive
a band SS#. We then can legitimately write-off expenses, etc., and make 
sure that the IRS is happy.

In addition, we would like to protect the `business' from liability
issues, i.e., what happens if the drunk stumbles over our equipment
and breakes his leg? Typically, the bar owner should be covered. But
if he/she is not, or turns around and goes after us, what is there we
can/need to do to prepare for such an event?

Thirdly, we have copyrighted our original material. Has anybody on the
net addressed issues regarding royalties and fees in case the band breaks
up?

If any of you have worked these issues I would like to hear from you.
In particular, I would appreciate it very much if you could make copies
of your band/partnership agreement available to me.

Thanks,

Armin
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From: yuval@violet.berkeley.edu (Yuval Oren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth,ucb.wanted
Subject: Finale 2.0.1 for Windows for sale
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:10:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Originator: yuval@violet.berkeley.edu

I have a brand new (but opened) copy of Finale for Windows (PC). This
is a professional music composing tool. Some great features:

Beautiful printing
Full MIDI capabability -- transcription, quantizing, all that stuff.
You can create your own notations, in addition to the millions of
things they already have.
This is the program many publishers use to write music books.

Please buy this and help me pay my tuition next semester.

Sells for $550, I will sell it for $350 or best offer.

E-mail responses only, please.



-- 
________________________________________________________________________
|Yuval Oren						               |
|yuval@ocf.berkeley.edu, yuval@violet.berkeley.edu	               |
| "One spoiled green bird is worth two cooks in the other grass broth."|
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:18:51 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Beatles & ADT...how?

jay@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.063614.19971@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu  
>(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>> In article <1jhlgsINN3nd@male.EBay.Sun.COM> warlock@halloween.EBay.Sun.COM  
>> (Dennis Montgomery) writes:
>> > I've read many articles discussing the Beatles use of ADT (Automatic  
>> Double
>> > Tracking) to 'fatten' up their vocals and I was wondering...  
>> > 1) How exactly did it work? 
>> John and Paul would sing at the same time ;-)
>> Nathan Janette
>> PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
>> 
>> Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
>
>The film "The Making of Sergeant Pepper's" includes interviews with George  
>Martin in which he demonstrates how the vocals were double tracked on a  
>four-track recorder...

I keep forgetting to look this up in my copy, but "THE BOOK" (Mark Lewisholm,
The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, or words to that effect) describes
briefly but sufficiently how ADT was achieved. I can't remember the exact
details, but I'm pretty sure that a highly programmable digital delay/
pitchshifter should be able to duplicate the effect.

If you can't find this book, bombard me with email until I remember to 
look it up.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: mrhine@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Rhine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: gk 200mb...info wanted
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:31:39 GMT
Organization: my organization here

does anyone have the phone number or address for gallen kruger? i could not 
find it listed in the music vendor list seen here periodically.

got an old 200 mb and would like a users manual...anyone have one they would
copy? i pay...

thanks...

-- 
...
mrhine@thor.gatech.edu...: ppl...404-894-4660...: fax...404-894-9548
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Musical Notation Questions
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 00:48:57 GMT

One anomaly I've found is that when scoring for multiple staves, some
people will include the accidental in one staff but omit it in the
other.  According to the notation text I have, accidentals do not
carry over to other staves in the same measure.  However, it does not
make sense (to me) when the vocal parts a forming a chord that the
piano is (presumably) giving an accompaniment to and the accidentals
are inconsistent (especially when the vocal part is notated in the
piano part!).  In those instances I've made corrections consistent
with either recordings I've heard or whatever harmonically makes sense
in that context.

--gregbo


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson)
Subject: Re: Beatles & ADT...how?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:38:09 GMT

In article <1k6mqhINNg8v@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>Please note that I have crossposted this to rec.music.beatles, and set
>followups to rec.music.makers.
>
>In article <5904@gold.gvg.tek.com>
>                         chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
>
>>I don't know anything about an "Automatic Double Tracking" system.
>
>After first (and quite rightly ;-)
>chastising me for not having a copy of "The Book" (Mark Lewisholm's
>_The Beatles Recording Sessions_ is, I think, the actual title) to reference,
>ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk was kind enough to pass this excerpt along.  This is
>quoted here without any permission of any kind from anyone;
>In layman's terms, ADT is a process whereby a recording signal is taken from 
>the playback head of a tape machine, is recorded onto a separate machine which
>has a variable oscillator (allowing the speed to be varied) and then fed back
>to the original machine to be combined with the original signal. In 
>photography, the placement of a negative directly over another does not alter
>the image. The two become one. But move one slightly and the image widens. 
>ADT does this with tape. One voice laid perfectly on top of another produces 
>one image, but move the second voice just by a few milliseconds and two 
>separate images emerge.
>[end of excerpt]
>
>-- 
>============================================================================
>Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
>    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
>    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain

Sorry for the tangent, but it seems like ADT uses the same principle as
does holography...aren't holograms made by splitting a light beam and throwing
the daughter beams slightly out-of-phase, then recombining them?  It's 
interesting how ideas are transferrable from one medium to another like this,
always with neat results!

				Nat Pearson
				raindrop@leland.stanford.edu
From: fullerto@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: ADAT availability/pricing...
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:33:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: banana.1k3ll6INNs1
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: banana.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1juqupINNfcj@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.043547.19265@gallant.apple.com>
>                                     wrs@apple.com (Walter Smith) writes:
>
>>             Since price-fixing is supposedly illegal, are these people just
>>refusing to discount it--for obvious reasons--and blaming it on Alesis?  Or
>>is there really some Alesis directive involved?
	
	yes... there is.

>
>There are examples of music equipment manufacturers
>practicing the latter, but, to my knowledge, Alesis is not one of them (I
>own a LOT of Alesis gear, and I assure you that I have NEVER paid list price
>for any of it!).  I suspect that you have been lied to, for "obvious reasons".
>

	That's not entirely true. The store where I work used to be an
Alesis dealer. There was a directive that newly released products could not
be sold at a discount, and that no product could ever be advertised at a 
discount.

	If I recall correctly, you had to wait something like ninety days
after the release of an Alesis product beffore it could be discounted.

	The store lost its dealership for violating these.

	Tim.
-- 
		Tim Fullerton
		fullerto@cis.ohio-state.edu
		75720.142@compuserve.com
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: ADAT availability/pricing...
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:33:45 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1993Jan19.043547.19265@gallant.apple.com>
                                     wrs@apple.com (Walter Smith) writes:

>             Since price-fixing is supposedly illegal, are these people just
>refusing to discount it--for obvious reasons--and blaming it on Alesis?  Or
>is there really some Alesis directive involved?

We've been through this before.  Price fixing is when two or more
manufacturers agree to a pricing structure that keep the prices of their
products artificially high.  A manufacturer directing it's distributors and 
etailers that they must not discount their products is not price fixing,
and is legal.  There are examples of music equipment manufacturers
practicing the latter, but, to my knowledge, Alesis is not one of them (I
own a LOT of Alesis gear, and I assure you that I have NEVER paid list price
for any of it!).  I suspect that you have been lied to, for "obvious reasons".

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (C A S S I E L)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: Peavey SX II - what's the scoop???
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:20:04 +0000

>Hope it outperforms the SX which seemed to get a lot
>of negative comment on the net.

It did? I have no complaints with mine, save that the damn thing insists on
powering up with SCSI ID 0. I expect the SX-II gets that right.

                     Nick Rothwell  |  "I was 'on the floor' while they
  CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |   were being shot and I vividly
       cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |   remember Joan Collins' legs."
       cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |      -- J. B., Script Editor, Space:1999

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Musical Notation Questions
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:53:11 GMT

In article <C1BJ2p.9GA@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, elee@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Salty Freckles) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.222831.29921@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> awkerr@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Alan Kerr) writes:
>>NO, RIGHT!  an accidental on an 'A' affects *all* A's.  That's Music
>>Theory Law (or whatever you want to call it).  If you want to be kind
>>to the musician, you *should* mark all the other A's, but it is not
>>needed.  personally, I've never liked this 'rule' and it *has* caused
>>me to make errors while transcribing to a new key. :-(
> 
> It's been a while since I've done anything related to Music Theory but from
> what I remember, the accidental on a note only affects that same note in the
> *current* measure. In the next measure, the accidental doesn't affect that
> note anymore, so it has to be written in again for every measure. If the
> accidental affected *all* notes like you say, it might as well be in the key 
> signature.
> 
>>Alan W. Kerr                               awkerr@aoc.nrao.edu
>>National Radio Astronomy Observatory       awkerr@nrao.bitnet
>>Socorro, NM, USA                           uunet!nrao.edu!awkerr
> 
> Gene Lee
> elee@descartes.UWaterloo.ca

I'm taking a theory course right now and Gene's opinion is correct.  The
accidental affects only the note in that particular octave in that particular
measure and nothing else.

Stephen

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/    Stephen E. Hale    /          as you are now so once was I
/ SEH003@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU /          as I am now so you will be
/-----------------------/          prepare, my friends, to follow me ...
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Musical Notation Questions
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:38:34 GMT

In article <1jn8b5INN3pc@west.West.Sun.COM>, flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE]) writes:
>
>I'm teaching myself to read music, with the help of a couple of
>(paperback) books.  Recently, I've come to wonder about the following:
>
>
>1.  What does it mean when an accidental b or # is enclosed in
>     parenthesis?    As in: (#)    As far as I can tell it means
>     that the symbol wasn't really needed but was shown anyway
>     to remind you.

Precisely correct.  It's often used when a note has been modified with
an accidental in a previous measure, as a reminder that it isn't any more.
As far as I've ever been able to tell, there are no rules for when the
parenthetical accidental is or isn't to be used, but you'll often see them,
for example, when a piece has modulated into a different key for a while,
and is now back to the original key; whatever notes had to be changed in
favor of the new key are often indicated as not being modified any more,
because it's easy to forget.

>2.  When you come upon an accidental on, say, A3, are the other
>     A's in the staff also affected?  How about the A4, A5, etc?

Yes to all questions.

>3.  What does it mean when some notes are printed in very small
>     type right next to the regular sized notes?  Does this mean
>     that they are played very lightly?

They're called grace notes.  If you want to see something pretty
astonishing in the grace-note department, check out the written music for
the Scottish bagpipes.  It's something like 75% grace notes; all those
little flourishes bagpipe players play are written out in gruesome detail.

Vast volumes of turgid academic prose have been ground out on the subject
of exactly how grace notes are to be played.  For example, in Mozart (and,
I guess, other composers of the same period) a grace note is supposed
to take fully half the value of the note following it, i.e. a grace note
followed by a quarter note is supposed to be played as two eighth notes.
(Well, that's what I was taught, anyway.)  If you're reading Irish music,
like the Krassen edition of "O'Neill's Music of Ireland", you'll see lots
of ornaments expressed as grace notes which are really inexpressible in
standard notation; the grace notes are just as close as he can get to
writing them down.  In the end, you just have to trust your own musical
judgement.

It just occured to me that you _might_ be referring to something else,
though: in choral music, a lot of times you'll see small type used to
indicate notes that go with some of the verses but not others, like when
one verse has a syllable in a particular measure that another doesn't
have.  If you're reading choral music, that might be what you're seeing,
otherwise, yup, grace notes.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
  //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
_/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition
From: jsadler@octel.com (John Sadler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Wanted: Lefty Steel-string Acoustic Guitar
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:21:45 GMT
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.

I'm looking for a used instrument in good to excellent condition
in the Taylor 510L and up quality range. Please e-mail any replies!
Thanks.
jsadler@octel.com
(John Sadler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: dank@fx.com (Dan Kleaver)
Subject: Guitar amps for sale
Organization: FXD/Telerate, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:11:25 GMT

****** FOR SALE ******

Mesa-Boogie triaxis midi guitar preamp. All the classic 
boogie sounds. Like new.  $ 950.00 

Soldano Series II 60 watt head. w/ effects loop. Killer
rock and roll amp.   $ 595.00


... I am posting this for a friend. Please don't reply directly
to me. He can be reached at:

Phone: Brian (415) 917-2202   or 
email: brian@aspectdv.portal.com
From: spatel@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (S Patel)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:11:34 GMT
Subject: JV-880 info
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

Hi,

Is there a ftp site where I can find patches for Roland's JV-880 synthesizer ?

Thx,

-Sam-
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