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From: cbenson@cs.strath.ac.uk (Calum F Benson CS90)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Chet Atkins music
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:26:33 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

n  <BvypvJ.GKA@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>  dgaudet@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Dean Gaudet) writes:
> I used to know a guitarist who'd play a bunch of Chet Atkins finger-picking
> songs.  I liked the way they sounded... unfortunately I have no clues what
> the names of the songs or albums are.  Can anyone help me?  Is there
> tab available for these songs anywhere?

	Allow me to recommend `Neck to Neck', an album by Chet Atkins
and Mark Knopfler. Mostly fingerpicking, one or two songs, and yes,
it's all available in tab form too! The album is on the CBS label over
here, but I can't remember who publishes the sheet music - I'll find out
for you, if you're desperate. Of course, they're mostly duets, so being
able to play two guitars at once is a considerable advantage :-)


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: venk@carson.u.washington.edu (Venkatesh Murthy)
Subject: Re: John McLaughin
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:26:35 GMT

All the talk about the "extra" strings in McLaughlin's guitar has made me
actually post something to this group!  I used to play the veena (or vina
as it is spelt sometimes), and one of the nice features of this instrument
is that there are three strings below the standard 4 strings, that are
tuned to the root, the fifth and the root one octave higher.  On the 
main beats of the "taal" one is playing, you strum these three strings 
with your little finger using an upward movement.   Sometimes one of
the three strings can be tuned to the fourth instead of the fifth for
certain raags.  I believe the sitar has a lot more of these sympathetic
strings, although I've never played one.  The other nice feature of
the veena as someone mentioned earlier, is its scalloped frets which
allows you to bend them quite a bit - in fact for Indian classical
music this is very important (this effect is referred to as "gamaka"
at least in South Indian classical).  McLaughlin's playing with
Shakti, to me, is the closest I've heard the guitar come to sounding
like a veena - and he can play it about 3 times faster than one can
with the veena!  

Cheers.

-venki

PS:  I echo someone's question about the other albums of Shakti being
released as CDs. Does anyone know if and where they are available?


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: quinlan@spsd630a.erim.org (Kevin Quinlan)
Subject: Need advice on American Standard Strats
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:19:53



Greetings!

Well, my local guitar shop is having their annual "Sale to end
all Sales" this weekend, and one of the advertised items are
American Standard Strats for $499. The list price is $850.
Is this a good price? Is the American Std. a good guitar?
Any advice and/or recommendations would be appreciated...

Thanks,
Kevin Quinlan
quinlan@erim.org
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: Building your own (ONBOARD PREAMP!)
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:00:48

   Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:08:30 GMT
   From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
   Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

   till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman) writes:

   > So these are gonna sound different.  I find the op-amp sound irritating,
   > although others may not mind, and still others may actually prefer it.  The
   > musician decides which they prefer and makes the most of it.

   I'd find it very hard to believe that you can really tell the difference.
   Maybe you can, but I know that I cannot.  

Perhaps you can't.  Since you haven't tried the FET preamp, it's really
hard to say isn't it?  No matter.  Please note however that throughout this
discussion I've been careful to never tell anybody what they can hear, what
they ought to prefer, or what they should sound like; I've only corrected
technical errors.  (Specifically claims like, "High feedback means it
reproduces the input *exactly*.")

   Your signal is coming from a guitar pickup with limited bandwidth, going into
   a guitar amplifier that is far from accurate and has limited bandwidth, and
   then going into a guitar speaker that adds it's own distortion.  Now tell me
   that putting an op-amp follower (buffer! No gain) in the signal path changes
   the signal enough for it to be irritating. Very hard for me to believe.

Heh-heh-heh, you assume that I just plug it in and crank it.  Depending
upon the circumstances I play direct to tape and headphones (in stereo),
direct to stereo PA, direct to high-fidelity equipment, or into a heavily
modified Fender Twin outfitted with piezoelectric tweeters.  When I finish
building my new speaker cabinets I'll have a very high fidelity biamped
system.

So yeah, I'm kinda serious about having a clean sound.  

  -- Don
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: hello@bnr.ca (Ken Orford)
Subject: Re: chord theory
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:07:02 GMT


Richard Barrett (barrett@athena.cs.uga.edu) wrote:
: From RBARRETT@uga.cc.uga.edu Fri Oct  9 08:39:04 1992
: To: barrett@athena.cs.uga.edu
: 
: Could someone help me out with theory on chord progression.  I know all about t
: he I-IV-V but now I am ready for other worlds of music.
: 
: What chords are used in a certain key?
: What chords sound good togther?

Some of this may sound pretty simplistic to the more experienced musicians
out there, but someone passed this on to me and it helps a lot, so here
goes....

The I-IV-V in the key of C major is C-F-G, try playing the relative minor
chords of those three as well.  That is C >> Am, F >> Dm, and G >> Em.
You'll see that the Am and Em chords each have two notes that are also
part of the C chord - that is why they go so well together.  I'm not so
sure about the Dm - it seems to fit in sometimes, but perhaps only works
better in transitions to different keys. For slight variations try playing
the relative minor sevenths - for a lighter feeling???  If you are able
to play barre chords comfortably then you'll notice that the relative
minor chords can be easily played three fret positions down the neck from
each of the major chords.  Better yet, if you are able to pick the pentatonic
blues scale any place on the fretboard, then try moving it up three frets and
you'll be able to pick along with most other non-blues/minor sounding songs.

.. but hey, I'm only a beginner - I need some more ideas too! 

Cheers,
       Ken. 

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From: fennig@fennig (Kurt Fennig)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Instructional Videos
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:41:57 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
: Has anyone had any life(style)-changing experiences from buying
: instructional videos...like from Vinnie Moore, or George Lynch, or
: Metal Method?  (etc..)  Are they worth it?
:  
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I got Metal Method last year, saw it, liked it... but I couldn't continue the
courses in the video because I didn't have a video machine at university.
For what it has, Metal Method is pretty good.  It has over 10 lessons (I 
can't remember for sure) and each lesson is supposed to be reviewed and
practiced for a week before continuing with the next lesson.  Doug Marks
is a good teacher.  But no, it hasn't changed my life, yet.........
- Kurt

___________________________________________
My opinions are not shared by my employer.
Kurt Fennig
Mitel Corp.
Ottawa, Ont.
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Ibanez pedals
Summary: any good???
Keywords: Digital Delay
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:29:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I was in a shop the other day and noticed an Ibanez Digital Delay
marked down from $129 to $79.....is this a reasonable price and is this
pedal any good - I'm not on stage, just playing at home.....so it doesn't
need to be truck-run-over-proof....   :-)

Duane
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: swells@zeno28.math ()
Subject: Crate GT-80 DSP Quadradrive
Summary: Anyone heard anything about it? 
Originator: swells@zeno28.math.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:33:17 GMT


I have noticed all these adds in Guitar magazine for the new Crate GT-80
Quadradrive. Has anyone heard anything  about this? Up here in Ontario it goes for 
around $899 (Canadian). 

A few questions :

1) It has for channels and 32 effects, but can an effect be stored on a channel so that 
   when it is switched back to that channel, the right effect still exists??

2) How much is it down in the states? 

3) How is the distortion....I love the distortion on my Crate G40-XL.

          Thanks in advance,
                           Steve
                        (swells@zeno28.math)  

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: m713@hosp.med.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Re: Polytone Amp
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: m713@hosp.med.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:58:51 GMT

In  <1b1s7kINNeml@gap.caltech.edu>  marc@cs.caltech.edu (Marc I. Pomerantz) writes:
>
> Does anyone have experience with Polyton Amps?  I have a friend who is
> selling a Polytone Mini-Brute 4.
>
> What is this thing worth? ( its in new condition ).
>
> Is Polytone still in business?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.

I have a Polytone Mini Brute II. It is about the size of a plastic
milk crate, has 1 12 inch speaker and is 100 watts. I love it!

I play jazz so I feel this is a good clean amp. It has a spring
reverb that is pretty nice and a distortion channel that is cheesy
sounding that I never use. If you are looking for a rock amp this
is NOT it.

The amp is loud enough for me. I play in a band and if I need or
want more volume (which I have never needed) the amp mikes well and
it has a line out in the back. I wish it had a headphone jack though.

Many jazz players use polytone; Joe Pass, Herb Ellis,
Johnny Gimble (western swing jazz fiddler). I think Ray Brown
uses a Polytone bass amp.

I don't know if they are still in business. I think they were
based out of Holywood CA.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cbray@nyx.cs.du.edu (chris bray)
Subject: CHOPRO to ASCII Text conversion?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 06:07:52 GMT

Hello there....

Someone earlier mentioned that they had a program which would
convert tab or chord files in the CHOPRO format to one in
a plain old ascii format (such as the .tab or .crd files at nevada)

Where could I get a copy of this program?

Thanks
Chris Bray

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From: fennig@fennig (Kurt Fennig)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: 60 cycle single pickup hum
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:34:56 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I just bought a '57 Fender Stratocaster reissue.  Naturally, it has 3 single
coil pickups which produce a 60 cycle hum when the pickup's are individually
selected.  Does anyone know any electronic wiring modifications to reduce the
hum?
Thanks- Kurt
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 01:04:05 -0400 
From: Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ibanez Price
Distribution: alt

No, I didn't mean the guitar you were talking about. The Frank Gambale
or the Alex Skolnick models of RG's are that expensive.

Merlin
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: ftp site - latest ver of CHORD?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 10:29:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 ftp.nevada.edu doensn't have this talked about new version...where might
I find it?

Thanks,

Steve Portigal
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From: cwalker@canopus.bucknell.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Chili Peppers Bass Tab
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:13:23 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <9210141005.aa07929@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> jchilber@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>I've been getting some good tab from you guys
>so I thought it was about time I contributed.
>
>SUCK MY KISS (as I know it)
>- ---------------:------------------------------------:
>- ---------------:---3----3-----------3---3-----4---4\:
>- --1-3-1--------:-----------------3---------4--------:
>- ---------1-----:------------------------------------:

			I think this part, the pre-chorus,
		is E to F rather than F to F#.

Any comments?

Carl Walker

--
Carl Walker				"Hectic days ahead of us,
Bucknell University			 Rotten ones behind,
Lewisburg, PA				 Keeping plastics in our pockets,
cwalker@canopus.bucknell.edu (! tmc.edu) Children never mind." - K, S, & W
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:45:22 GMT

In article <49810002@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>  
kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
> Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to  
this
> group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.
> 
> Kingsley

This guy posted that survey to something like 125 newsgroups and I've  
seen his "Oops!" message on a number of different groups.  Either he  
screwed up his mailing list big time or is one complete total  
snivelling jerk who's trying not to look like one.

>> Bass for your face <<
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: how do you do that funky reggae?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:33:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <WARSAW.92Oct14131149@anthem.nlm.nih.gov> warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>
>Anybody ever see that old British '80's television show called "Rock
>School"?  Its been a while so I apologize if I paraphrase incorrectly.
>On the show, they go around to each instrument and that player gives
>some hints on how to play the particular style being discussed.  On
>the reggae episode, the bass player fiddling with his amps, in a thick
>British accent says: "First you turn down the treble, then turn down
>the mid. Then turn up the bass.  You want heavy, heavy bass."

Touche.
I posted recently regarding playing reggae.  I too recommend the RockSkool
(sic?) videos.  I saw the reggae one, and it would serve any musician
interested in this branch of music very well.
I especially recall the drummers part, in which he cleared up a *lot* of
the mysterys surrounding reggae drumming.
Has anyone seen these videos for other styles?  Recommendations?

By the way, I got a tremendous response to my post regarding how to play
reggae with a band.  I will prepare a follow-up, since so many of you asked.
I do this at work, so it may take a while!

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and wishing he could find another reggae band in San Diego!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: teli@smos.com (Te-Li Lau)
Subject: Information on Seville Bass
Organization: S-MOS, Inc
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:16:44 GMT

I'm thinking of buying a used bass and I saw an add for a Seville
bass and a Fender 50 Bassman amp. I was wondering if any of you
could provide some information as to whether these are any good
at all. 

Thanks for your help. As you can see, I'm new to the bass world.

Te-Li

-- 
/teli@khan
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe)
Subject: Re: A learning experience
Originator: v035550@stcvax
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:43:39 GMT

>A friend called me up at work and asked whether I play bass.
>I said, "sort of", explaining that I don't quite sound like
>most bassists I've heard when I play, since I improvis

...

>Fortunately, I've been learning to read bass clef lately.
>Unfortunately, this is a recent development and I am not 
>good at it yet.  Okay, I'll try to cope with that...

Great.  Glad to see it.  It really isn't any more difficult
than treble clef: Think treble transposed down a 3rd. Simple.
If you intend to stay with bass at all, learning how to read
is the best thing you can do for yourself.  It makes you a
more complete musician.  Whatever you do, stay away from 
tablature.  Although it is true that tab predates standard
music notation, "tab" is an example of a system that has
outlived its usefulness.  It is a crutch, and severely
limits your ability to communicate with musicians other than
bassists or guitarists.  Keyboardists, horn players, reeds,
etc, etc all use standard music notation.  Playing by
ear is better than using tab.
                       
...

>Wow.  Lots of flats in the key signatures.  There's one 
>piece in C, one in G, a few in F, and everything else has 
>at least three flats in the key signature.

Well, if there are chord charts along with the notation,
the chords should outline the line you play.  Likely the
root will be on the first beat of each bar, fifth on the
third, leading tone on the fourth.  If not, check with 
the keyboardist: the left hand part will likely double
or harmonise what you are doing.  (by harmonise, I mean
that the left hand part might outline the chord for a 
given bar, but might be rootless: you will play the root.)
If this is the case, you will need to really learn your
part, or you'll be in each other's way.

...

>I knew I wasn't a terrible _well_rounded_ musician, but 
>I hadn't realized there was this particular hole in my
>experience -- I'm not used to playing in flat keys.  Oh

Flat keys are typically more familiar to sax players. 
Bb is their favourite key, since for them it is like playing
in C. 

>I'll probably chicken out.  Either that or transpose it all
>to treble clef.

Maybe playing bass in a situation like this would make you 
a better guitarist.

sjm
From: gwaldron@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Glenn Waldron)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: need advice on used amp ASAP
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:21:14 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

You are right about the lack of higher frequencies in the 15's.
I play a TKO75 which I got in excellent condition for $200, but that
was with a Black Widow.  $169 sounds like an excllent deal to me,
even w/o the BW.

- Glenn.

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Computer Science - Virginia Tech                aq078@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: toddc@spot.tv.tek.com (Todd Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: 1929 Kaye pricing
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:07:40 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.  Beaverton, Oregon

In article <1992Oct8.154625.1178@stortek.com> v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe) writes:
>>I'm in the market for an upright bass.  A local store has a 1929
>>Kaye (at least that is what the label inside it says...) and he
>>wants $2500 for it.  That seems awful steep, so I thought I'd
>>ask what all you gurus think...
>>
>Gack....pttttttt...$2500 for a KAY? even if it is a
>1929 kay...  Kay basses are (comparatively speaking) junk.  
>No, this is a BAD deal.  Really bad...This would be funny
>if somebody wasn't out there actually trying to sell one of
>these pieces-o-crap for this much...quarter that amount,
>and the price would still be high, but more "reasonable."
>
>sjm


I have a 1920's vintage Kay upright that I have played for five years,
and it has a very nice sound along with a LOT of character. 
(One man's piece-o-crap is another man's axe.)  Although,
$2500 is a whole lot more than I would even THINK of paying for it!

                                 Keep shopping.

                                          Todd 


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From: KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Pickups?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:58:48 GMT
 <1992Oct9.122649.7448@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu says:

>Brian William Carroll ><bc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>     I have a Fender J-P bass with active electronics and I am
>> considering putting new pick-ups in it but I am not very knowledgeable
>> in the ways of pick-ups. Does anyone have any recommendations.

>Try Fender Lace Sensors, DiMarzio's and Bartilloni's.  Also, I think that
>Carvin ones sound pretty sweet.

Why Fender Lace Sensors?  They cost twice as much as regular Fenders.