From: ngopalas@ha14.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Curious Fixation & Logic (was: Sholay was original...not!)
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:31:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.043627.7318@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul30.023758.24289@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
|> >To Sthan, Nath, Sumitro, and all the rest of you who staunchly defend the 
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|> >so-called genuine nature of this obvious imitation:  Get a clue.
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|> 
|> [ Broadside  from Sthan deleted]

I remember quite clearly stating that Sholay *may be a remake* but its setting
etc were uniquely Indian. A pathetic attempt to change tracks, maybe the
powerful memory is stuck in a feedback loop. The question was not whether
Sholay was a remake or not, but that we Indians supposedly obtained our
views about the *American* west from Sholay. The vast majority of people
watching Sholay could not care less if it resembled the American West or
not, and it would take some curious mental feat for them to get their views 
about the *American* West from Sholay. Or maybe not. Ed Crick with his sources
in India to inform him about the state of technology in India is also informed 
about one common scene outside the theatre. 

English translation follows:

Man 1: That was a good movie. Now what does it remind you of? Chambal valley?
Man 2: Are you joking? Of course it reminds me of the American west.
Man 1: Just testing to make sure. No hard feelings.

Maybe the average Indian guy is more hip than we thought. Hmmmm >:).

|> >Before you give me the patriotic rhetoric of the Indian bandits, of Hindi
|> >movies, and of how Shakespeare was actually from Bombay, go rent "The

Nope, Shakespeare was from Assam, please get your facts straight. Or did some
Indiana Jones movie misinform you that Shakespeare was from Bombay? tch..tch..

|> >Magnificient Seven," or "The Seven Samurai."
|> 
|> [Another broadside deleted] 
|>
|> 
|> >                                   Since all of you have seen
|> >"Sholay" 20 or 30 times each on video, I assume you have VCRs 

4-5 times.neq.20-30 times. I know, I know, being petty,but couldn't help it.

|> >Some of you have jumped on the Columbus-bashing, anti-Western bandwagon by 
|> >citing Native-killing in the one or two movies you saw a brief portion of
|> >while you were lying on the couch, flipping through the channels, and doing
|> >your Eastern blots for garam masala.  You may be shocked when you don't

Hey I have heard of the wonders of satellite technology but this takes the cake!
Or was it trespassing? From now on I shut the curtains and I shut them real tight.

|> >see the US cavalry in this movie.  You may also be disappointed when, in the
|> >heat of a gun battle, Yul Brenner does NOT stop shooting and start lip-
|> >synching to Kishore Kumar's voice.  Nevertheless you will soon understand, if
|> >you are capable, the movies from which "Sholay" was Xeroxed.  
|> 
|> Finally some reasonable hyperbole followed by the stereotypical non
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|> sequiturs (of course I am repeating myself), some redundant cliches,
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Whew! Am I glad you figured it out. I honestly couldn't. I got lost somewhere
near the point the cavalry came in or didn't come in. I know I am opening myself
to compliments about my mental ability from Ed, but I am an honest man :).

|> overuse of the rather limited (considering the avowed liberal 
|> tendency) artificially constructed ethnic slurs and ultimately the
|> grudging admission of some possibility of intelligence in the third 
|> world cretins.
|> 
|> >Most of you bypassed the citation of "Satanic Verses," wherein Rushdie
|> >writes that all Hindi-movie actors are obligated to do a remake of "The Mag. 7."FYI, you are allowed to own that book in the US.  

Ahhh.! That is your strong point isn't it? You want to lure us into commenting
on that citation or whatever and then scurry up onto your high ground and launch
broadside after broadside against us till your original statement disappears
from our memory. And we got some strange Alzheimer disease which is not helping
our memory any. Well I ain't taking the bait, sorry :).

|> 
|> A curiously repetitive refrain possibly indicative of rather limited
|> exposure to the subject at hand or could this possibly be it - 
|> enlightenment brought on by old age?
|> 
|> >
|> >Now go do some of the background research before instinctively hitting
|> >shift-F and soiling the screen with your groundless (and mindless) responses.
|> >
|> >Ed
|> 

High ground slippery eh?:) Tough luck. I think a quiet dignified retreat should
be in order. Oh my! What am I saying (or soiling)? It must be this Alzheimer
damned thing :).

|> 
|> Sthan.
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