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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: rdist on Sun IPX
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 22:13:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.114954.1@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu> sasurguine@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu writes:
>Hi Netters:
>
>I'm looking for Docs/Info on rdist.

Well, the man page is pretty helpful.

>I have a network which is currently
>running NIS.  From what little I know about rdist, I have made the following
>assumptions:
>
>1) It could provide my users with more transparency 

Well, I've always found NIS to be more transparent than periodically
shipping files all around my net.  Or do you call forcing your users to
log onto a master machine to change their password "transparent?"

>2) Could leave us with more bandwidth ( Always a BIG plus )

I doubt that will be very noticeable.  NIS too often get a bad rap.
Yes, there are security problems, yes, there are gotchas, but overall
it works.  For me, I have a network of now 31 machines.  I use rdist
fairly heavily, but I still use NIS for everthing it was designed for
except hosts(5).  I have secured up 95% of the security holes regarding
NIS, and it suits me very well.  I'd hate to think what I'd have to do
if I had to shut down NIS.

>doing so.  SO would any of you who have already installed rdist on Sun
>platforms please E-mail how you tweaked the Makefile.

What's wrong with /usr/ucb/rdist?  (After you've installed patch 100383-02)

--Dave
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: EEPROM and NIS Server woes
Date: 23 Dec 1992 23:29:08 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <BzqHzx.16o@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mflll@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dr. Laurence Leff) writes:
>2. NIS passwd woes 
>
>The second problem concerns the NIS server.
>
>Whenever, we try /usr/etc/yp/ypush passwd
>
>I get message yppush: Map does not exist.

Try:

# /usr/etc/yp/yppush passwd.byname
# /usr/etc/yp/yppush passwd.byuid

"passwd" is just a nickname that is recognized by certain commands.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: montjoy@thor.ece.uc.edu (Robert Montjoy)
Subject: Rdist questions..
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:04:59 GMT


HI..

Just one(hopefully simple) question about rdist. 

How does rdist handle programs that are actively running on the 
remote host.. 

For example, if someone is running X windows
and you rdist a new copy of X windows to his fileserver
does rdist to the right thing and either unlink or rename
has program to keep from over writing the disk image..

Overwriting a program when someone is running it will most likely 
cause the program to "core dump". This is because 
the system will "swap"(the text part) of the executable back to itself.

Finally, do any of you use "sup" or "track" instead 
to keep your software distributions up to date??? (for people
how do not know "sup" and "track" pull instead of push the
new files..

Thanks..

-- 
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Computer Engineer    	      		- montjoy@ucbeh.BITNET
University of Cincinnati      		- montjoy@babbage.ece.uc.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: POINTLESS SPECULATION re: Sunergy (SPARCclassic and LX) and 4.1.3
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:26:12 GMT

>    As Guy said, past SunOS releases have had code that was *specific to
>    certain Sun platforms* in order to work around certain things that may
>    have been peculiar to a particular SPARC processor or CPU board.

I read somewhere that SunOS 5+ will ignore an FPU in a 4/110, so it looks like
the first step of desupporting the whole platform.

>    or the Lance Ethernet (maybe you run Thinnet)

Thinnet would still use the le, wouldn't it?

>    engineer tells you that they can't reproduce your problem on their own
>    SPARCstation-10's, what then?  Beg from the net?  And hope the other 10
>    people in the world also doing it can help you out?

I've often had better success from the net.


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From: olsenc@stein.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Problems booting over the net with Suns
Date: 30 Dec 1992 03:13:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Hello:

I was just wondering if someone out there knew how
to boot a machine over the network.  I've tried and tried
but no such luck.  Here's what happened:

I tried to make harpo a boot server for the client groucho.  I'm
trying to update operating system via the network rather than
lugging around the silly CDROM drive all the time.

I ran "add_client" on harpo and added groucho to it's list
to make it a boot server.  The program is not very robust and
I had to delete and add the client a few times to get it to
go through all the motions.

The program "add_client" puts the proper files (supposedly) into
/export and the proper entry (supposedly) in /etc/bootparams, but
rpc.bootparamd will not run properly.  When run in debug mode, I
get the error:

harpo# rpc.bootparamd -d
In debug mode
bp_getclntent failed.
bp_getclntent failed.

and it just hangs.  I cannot figure out why it won't run.  As a result,
groucho can get it's IP address, but hangs after that and says:

No bootparam server responding; still trying

Note:   I am running NIS with (I hope) valid host and ethers entries
in the database.  Harpo is running SunOS 4.1.3 and groucho is hanging
right now with 4.1.1 Rev B.

If anyone has any ideas, please email.  Thanks in advance.

-Clint
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: smartin@Canada.lsil.com (Stephen Martin)
Subject: Re: PC-NFS4.0 - pcnfsd V2 doesn't work !!
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation of Canada, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:08:42 GMT

On your PC try the command 'net printers' it may show you the problem, I 
found that if I had a printer defined something like:

lw|Postcript Laserprinter:\

i gagged due to the space in the printer name, 'net printers' show printers
called Postcript and Laserpriner but no lw.
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Phone: (416) 620-7400     LSI|LOGIC|    Suite 1110, 401 The West Mall,        
Fax:   (416) 620-5005        |     |    Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada.
Email: smartin@lsican.uucp   -------    M9C 5J5
 or    smartin@Canada.lsil.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:9878 comp.sys.hp:14464
From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: X-ing from HP to SUN
Date: 3 Jan 93 11:14:45 GMT
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.

carl_r@cho006.cho.ge.com (Computer Systems & Tools) writes:
>    we recently added about 50 hp 715 workstations (running hpux 9.0) to
>    our network of suns (running 4.1.2...in some cases running 4.1.3).
>
>    my problem is x-ing from the HPs to the Suns...using the command:
>    <xtool> -display sunnode:0.0
>
>    it takes an incredible amount of time (say 10 to 15 minutes) to get the
>    display up on a sun station.
>
>    does this sound familiar?  is there something i'm doing wrong???
>    any help will be greatly appreciated.

Yes, this is a known problem. In the latest FAQ file for comp.sys.hp, it
says:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
6) How come my HP X/Motif clients take a LONG time to display on a Sun?

The problem is with the OW3 server.  You can request OW3 patch 100444
(or whatever is the current replacement) from Sun to fix the problem.
Supposedly this has been rolled into OW 3.0.1. A workaround is to
set the X resource *useColorObj: False.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You might also want to know that the latest version of the patch is 100444-35.

Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
From: dim@gibbs.ama.caltech.edu (Daniel I. Meiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Caps Lock on Sparc Keyboard
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:45:04
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibbs.ama.caltech.edu

Does anyone know how I can get a Sparc Keyboard to light the Caps Lock 
LED when a user presses Caps Lock (and turn it off when the user undoes Caps 
lock). Is this something easy to do or does it require mucking with a 
device deriver? Any pointers on this would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Dan Meiron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.1/SunOS 4.1.3 on sun4e
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:36:56 GMT

>Can either of these release be installed on 4e's?

The last that I heard the 4E's had a special release called "SunOS 4.1E".
Since they're intended for imbedded applications, I suspect that keeping
their OS up to date isn't very critical to Sun.

It was an adventure to get the 4.1E stuff off of tape so that I could boot
one diskless from a Convex machine.
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Newsgroups: ch.sun-managers,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rageth@ifi.unizh.ch (Beat Rageth)
Subject: Fujitsu M2652P IPI Disk not visible !
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 11:46:31 GMT

Hi, 

we have an Sun Server 4/490 with SunOS 4.1.1 and a
ISP-80 Disk Controller.
After installation of the Fujitsu M2652P Disk we get the folowing 
error message during boot :

   idc0: ctlr message: 'FW revision date = 8/28/90 , level = 254 '
   idc0: ctlr message: 'Warning:  drive 1 may require formatting '
   .
   .
   id001: read: Uncorrectable Data Check. 
   id001 at idc0 facility 1

If we try format the disk, the format command dosen't see the disk !

We tryed the same on a SunServer 690MP with SunOS 1.1.3 with the same
result. 

Has anyone any ideeas how to solve this problem?

Please send e-mail to  rageth@ifi.unizh.ch

Thanx,  B. Rageth


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Rdist questions..
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:46:13 GMT

>How does rdist handle programs that are actively running on the 
>remote host.. 

Typically the rdistd/rdist -S on the remote machine will rename the old copy
and unlink it, so running processes should be unaffected by that act.  Of
course, if it's part of a bigger package, you could have the problem of it
getting incompatible versions of other parts of the package while the rdist
is going on, but if you dist at night usually  not much is going on.

>For example, if someone is running X windows
>and you rdist a new copy of X windows to his fileserver
>does rdist to the right thing and either unlink or rename
>has program to keep from over writing the disk image..

In this case, you're perhaps going to end up replacing shared libaries that the
running processes are using, which is a whole different ball of wax, especially
if you're going from R4 to R5 with the incompatible Xaw library.  It's best to
have your users exit from their X sessions before you dist X.

>Finally, do any of you use "sup" or "track" instead 
>to keep your software distributions up to date??? (for people
>how do not know "sup" and "track" pull instead of push the
>new files..

I used rdist in a previous life to manage an extensive set of software, and
while rdist has its problems, I was able to work around most of them with cron
and some truly evil use of "special".

One problem with "pull" arrangements is that it can be difficult to centrally
deal with things that really do need to be centrally managed.

There's a "depot" developed at CMU that has some promise.  No, it's not the
other, more famous "depot".
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: randyb@boi.hp.com (randy barbour)
Subject: This LAN is not you LAN !!!
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:51:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

 The following message has been received periodically,but steadily, on 
Sun Sparc 2 workstations connected on a thinlan network. A thinMAU box 
is used to interface thinlan network via the AUI port. The message is
not received on HP workstations on the same network.

le0: Receive: giant packet for ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
le0: Receive: STP in rmd cleared

Question: Does anyone know how to interpret this message or why the Suns
          are sensitive to it? Networking seems to work fine other
          than these console messages ! 

                                        Thank you
                                    
                                        Randy Barbour
                                        randyb@boi.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: saint@mail.ncku.edu.tw (Ming-Jer Lee)
Subject: List opened file in system.
Organization: National Cheng Kung University, Tainan, Taiwan
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:18:33 GMT

Dear netter:

  Is there any way to list all files that are currently been opened, and who 
open it(sunos 4.1.2) 

--
Ming-Jer Lee                  saint@mail.ncku.edu.tw
From: sasurguine@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: NIS Question: rpc.yppasswd
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:32:58 GMT

Qucik NIS question:

I am working on a new machine, can't seem to fire up yppasswd on this beast.
When I tried to fire it up, I received message: 
rpc.yppasswd not running on server

I tried to fire up YPPASSWD using : 
/usr/etc/rpc.yppasswd /var/yp/passwd

only to receive an error: Can't write to /var/yp/passwd

Im not an NIS guru yet, could someone give me a quick point in the right
direction

Thanks In Advance for Any help:

--Scott Surguine
--ssurgui@ucdacm.denver.colorado.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jdc@coral.uucp (James D. Corder)
Subject: Re: SCSI port
Keywords: sun
Organization: M.I.S. Department of Coral Systems
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:42:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.175124.3230@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> efroyman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Ella Froyman) writes:
>
>They come with one SCSI port, and we have added another via an SBUS
>card. We also have up to 9 devices per machine, i.e. CD/ROM, external
>disks, tape drives.  How do we attach them all.

Hello:

	On my 670MP I have two SCSI ports, Mother-Board and one SBUS.
I have 3-Sun1.3GB drives, 1-350MB drive, 1-CDrom on the Mother-Board
and 2-Sun1.3GB drives on the second.

	My four dirves on the Mother-Board are addressed as 0, 1, 2, 3 and the
CD has a SCSI address of 6.  The two drives on the SBUS are addressed as
0 & 1.  Since they are on the second card they are seen as drive sd4 & sd5.
WARNING:  Sun is strange when it comes to the boot drive:  You might get
drive 0 and drive 3 mixed up on the Mother-Board:-(

Good Luck,
James D. Corder
coral!jdc@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu
From: dminer@East.Sun.COM (Dave Miner - ...sometimes you're the bug)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Automount pro and con
Date: 22 Dec 1992 23:09:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dminer@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: badboy.east.sun.com

In article 194@svb.guug.de, svb@svb.guug.de (Sebastian v. Bomhard) writes:
...
>Oh, BTW, one problem still remained with Solaris 2.1: arch delivers
>sun4 and arch -k sun4c, no difference to SunOS 4.*. Thus $ARCH doesn't
>work for binaries which are not compatible - any ideas?
>
>Thank you for telling me your point of view!
>

"uname -r" will tell you what release you're running.  It works back through 4.1, at least, and maybe 4.0.x.

Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jwjung@kaist.ac.kr (Jung Joo-won)
Subject: [Q] NFS write error 13 on host...
Keywords: NFS
Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 03:43:35 GMT

What's the meaning of the error:

vmunix: NFS write error 13 on host jupiter fh 1666 a0000 121e 2a93614f a 0 22a93 6149000

We have two Sun's (Sparcstation 1) which is NFS client of Iris(jupiter).
Sometimes, this error message come from one of NFS client(Sparcstation 1).
And the strage thing is just one host give these messages.

I have applied the NFS Jumbo Patch (#100482-02). And the error have came
out before the patch was applied.

-mtduck

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Taejon, Republic of Korea, 305-701	|   /	  \ \	Mountain Duck (Quack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mflll@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dr. Laurence Leff)
Subject: EEPROM and NIS Server woes
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:47:56 GMT

We are experiencing some minor problems in setting up our Suns.
We are reconfiguring them as what used to be a diskless client now
has a disk.

1. Problem One, EEPROM woes


We have been unable to set the default boot location to boot off of the
new disk.

When we run eeprom, we get as output

hwupdate=Wed Dec 31 18:00:00 ...
memsize=4
memtest=4
scrsize=1152*900
watchdog-reboot=true
default_boot=true
bootdev=sd(0,0,0)
diagdev=(0,0,0)
diagpath= ...
....

Yet, when we reboot the machine, it informs us that there is no default
boot device.

b sd(0,0,0) brings us up normally at this point, but we would like the system
to try this itself automatically upon rebooting or powerup.

2. NIS passwd woes 

The second problem concerns the NIS server.

Whenever, we try /usr/etc/yp/ypush passwd

I get message yppush: Map does not exist.

I checked /var/yp/cs.wiu.bgu.edu

And it has the files

passwd.byname.dir
passwd.byname.pag
passwd.byuid.dir
passwd.byuid.pag

Our /etc/domainname file specifies cs.wiu.bgu.edu

Any idea how we can chase this problem.
From: jsmith@spectro.UUCP (Jerry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SunPro/Tech software licensing...
Summary: license managers don't have to be difficult
Keywords: sunc++3.0.1, Sunc2.0, sparcworks, licensing
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:30:20 GMT
Organization: Iris Computing Labs


SunPro, like many commercial software vendors, uses a canned license
manager.  The approach used by many license managers appears to have
been designed to be more complicated than necessary--complication
implies sophistication, i.e., you're getting a lot for your money.

Every time the license manager issue comes up, someone eventually
takes shots at license managers in general, as opposed to poorly
designed license managers.  If the license manager is complicated
and requires a 50-page manual to describe its installation, users
should simply refuse to buy the product.  Some commercial developers,
including my company, strive to design simple-to-use license managers
that impose the absolute minimal hassles on our users.  For example,
our node-locked version simply requires that you specify your
password as an X resource:

<application>*password:  ABCDEFGHIJ

For our license server version, the license manager accepts the
password as a command-line option:

<license-manager-daemon> ABCDEFGHIJ

The license manager is flexible enough to be started by the
superuser as a daemon in an RC-style file, or as a background
process.  There is no *real* need for license managers to require
various levels of indirection via numerous files simply to specify
a password.

It's frustrating when all commercial vendors are lumped into one
category by some users.  If users provide the pressure, vendors will
simplify their complicated user interfaces to their license managers.

Jerry Smith
Iris Computing Laboratories
The Spectro Group, Inc.
Phone:  +1-505-988-2670
Fax:    +1-505-988-2489
Email:  jsmith@spectro.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark)
Subject: Patch conflict, maybe?  100305-09 and 100696-01 (lpr)
Organization: NASA/MSFC
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Distribution: na
Date:  2 Jan 93 04:10:49 GMT

Patches 100305-09 and 100696-01 seem to address the same issue (lpr
security), and both provide replacements for /usr/ucb/lpr.  Neither
patch mentions the other.  What's the story here?

I haven't tried using both of them together somehow.  For one thing,
"strings /usr/ucb/lpr" with 100305-09 shows /dev/lpd/printer, and the
same thing with 100696-01 gives /dev/printer.  It would seem that the
100696-01 patch is a later version, but it does not include
/usr/etc/lpc or /usr/lib/lpd; however, it does include /usr/ucb/lprm.
Go figure.
--
J. Porter Clark    jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov or jpc@gaia.msfc.nasa.gov
NASA/MSFC Flight Data Systems Branch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: stellabo@phage.cshl.org (Fred Stellabotte)
Subject: Simple User Accounting Front End
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Lab, Long Is New York
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:07:18 GMT

Can anyone help ..??

I am looking for a simple to use/setup user accounting software.

All I am interested in is disk usage, connect time, and CPU time
for tracking users on a Sun Data Center Server ..

I know about the 'ac' and 'du' commands .. but I am looking for
a nice complete package with commerical looking reports ..

Thanks in advance ...

-Fred

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