HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Re: Dread of Scotty Episode -- NOT; (Not Yet anyway.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:38:46 GMT
Organization: HP Mfg. Test Div., Loveland, CO

Jim Feldhouse opines:

>Just a little preliminary survey.
>How many here get the feeling that this
>episode where Scotty returns is not going
>to be to[sic] good?

Hate to break it to you, but it's a quite good episode.  I enjoyed it
immensely.  James Doohan's acting was superb, and the plot hung together
with only a couple of weak spots.  A couple of scenes brought a tear
to my eye, and some others, when they panned out as I hoped, brought
a resounding "YES!"

Talk about pessimism.  Why not just enjoy the shows while you can,
before they're gone for good.

Brian
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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Transporter Psychosis
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:53:23 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


Does anyone connected with the show have access to a dictionary?  My
electronic American Heritage defines psychosis as: "Any of a class of 
serious mental disorders in which the mind cannot function normally
and the ability to deal with reality is impaired or lost."  But the
description of so-called Transporter Psychosis indicated that most
of the symptoms were PHYSICAL.  Add to that the fairly long list of
symptoms and it's clear that the correct name of this disease should
be Transporter Syndrome. (Syndrome: "A group of symptoms that collectively
characterize a disease or disorder.")

--James Preston

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: "Yes, Ma'am." (was: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Man of the People")
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:27:49 GMT


>I don't know if this was important or not, but Ensign W&A addressing Troi
>as "Ma'am" struck me as weird.  I thought all people -- male and female
>-- in the times of Star Trek were addressed uniformly as "Sir".  Or is
>that just for officers in Star Fleet?  (And would Troi be considered an
>"officer" on this necessarily, being, as someone pointed out that she
>should be, outside the chain of command?)
>
>Just asking.


Didn't she end up commanding in some episode where she was the senior officer
on the bridge and everyone else was cut off?

But you're right -- I thought everyone was "Sir" and "Mr." as in "Mr. Saavik"
of STII:TWOK

Firestar



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Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
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From: davidhe@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: HELP! Trek_sounds.tar.Z needed after Oct.9
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:29:47 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I don't remember where I read this, but Someone posted an FTP site where it was
possible to get a file called trek_sounds.tar.Z.  This file contained a large 
number of Trek related sound files. I believe the site was omicron.cs.fsu.edu. 
Anyway,I will soon be getting a new account which will be able to handle files 
as large as this one (5 megs), but it won't be until next Tuesday or Wednesday. 
The file was set to go off-line on Oct. 9.  Could the person who posted that
message, or anyone at all, please see if they can keep the file on-line until
October 14 or 15?  Thanks.

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Lucas Dambergs 
      AKA     
The Supreme Cow

Absence makes the heart grow fungus.    -- The Barenaked Ladies
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, North America, Sol III (Earth), Terran System
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: --<Relics>-- *SPOILERS*
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:12:44 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:


>WOW! Im still impressed.  No matter others may say, I thing that the
>show has improved greatly from TAII.   However, I noticed a basic flaw that
>my roommate pointed out last night...that some of these scripts would have
>never reached the screen if Gene was still around, but anyway....

    I'm not sure where you got this idea...

>However, there were still a lot of inconsistancies with the writters, which
>would have been burned by Gene if he were still around...

    From everything that I have read on this usbject, Gene just didn't
have that much control over the show on any kind of day-to-day regular
basis. He is in the credits, and he did look at things, but (and I might
be wrong on this) the final approval of stuff wasn't his. Nothing that
has been done this season has been any different that stuff done in the
first few seasons.


>for example, how did they get enginer control back at the speed in order
>to excape?

    Good question. I've been wondering this, my self.

>Why give Scotty a shuttlecraft to go play around in the galaxy with when
>they should have returned him to starbase xxx? etc...  

    Why not? He did help save the Ent-D so that must be worth something.
As for sending him to a starbase, what would be the point? It's not like
he has anything that they need.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
From: tilden@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Elementary, Dear Data Question Part II.
Date: 12 Oct 1992 06:36:23 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
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Keywords: How


In article <Bvtq3G.AD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.112051.10441@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>>Good question, but it has to be no. When they originally made the episode they
>>did not get permission to whoever owns the rights to things Sherlock Holmes
>>related. They almost got sued! If they want to do another one they have to
>>first get permission and they pay money for the right to use it. Since their
>>budget per episode is so high as it is they probably won't do it anytime soon.
>
>Interesting.  This is the second time someone has posted about legal
>problems with using Sherlock Holmes characters.  Recently, however, I
>read that the copyrights on the characters have expired long ago,
>and thus they can be freely used by anyone.  This is why, the story said,
>there are many games involving Sherlock Holmes (this was from an article
>in a video game magazine).
>
>So does anyone know the real story?  Was Paramount almost sued, or not?
>
>-- 
>   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>  / Bob Rusbasan                  |     Dance to the tension       \
> /  rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu |      of a world on edge         \
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

If what you are saying is true, then I want to know why they haven't come out
with the follow-up to an originally good episode.  But, back to my question,
would my solution work? If they could do the show without a problem, could they
put Morriarty in an android body and come up with a new plot complication as
he tries to learn how to controll it like was done in another episode (of
which the title illudes me) where the elder gentleman took over Data? 

Evermore curious,

Jeff Bohning

"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Buckaroo Banzaii
"And if you're not there, you must be somewhere else." -The Jester
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From: Robert_N_Brauer@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: --<Relics>-- *SPOILERS*
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:22:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <Bw2EIJ.Ct3@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>For now, I'll assume that Scotty was lost immediately after TUC, which
>happened in 2294.  TUC repeatedly stated that the senior officers of the
>E were retiring, and Scott was headed toward his retirement when he hit
>the Dyson Sphere.  So unless he's in ST7, it seems likely that he was
>lost shortly after ST6.
>-- 

Thanks for the continuity details, I hadn't followed it that closely.
Let me add a comment in the world of actors and movies. After _The
Undiscovered Country_, almost all of the original series actors swore
repeatedly that there would be NO MORE movies. The only cast member
who was strongly favoring a seventh movie seemed to be Mr. Doohan. His
public interviews were a ray of hope for those looking for Star Trek 7.
Perhaps Mr. Doohan accepted a spin-off of his role into TNG as the best
alternative. If DSN is contemporary with TNG, Scotty's chances at
guest appearances are doubled.
The thought of Mr. Scott roaming free in the galaxy makes me smile, 
such possibilities...!

Robert Brauer     The House of Brauer     hofbrau@cup.portal.com
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From: meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Subject: Re: scott's "batting nint
Reply-To: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:18:35 GMT

> Barclay: Water.
> Computer: Specify temperature.
> Barclay: <frustrated, waves arms in disgust> I-I don't CARE!  Just give
> me WATER!
> 
> Huuzzzzzzzmmmmm
> 
> <glub, glug, glub>
> 
> (Would've been better if the water was boiling and Barclay has to spit
> it all out)
> 
>  * OLX 2.1 TD * Sometimes I wake up BITCHY. Other times I let her sleep.
> --
> Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
> World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

One thing I was wondering. Every time someone gets something to drink, the  
replicator creates a glass. Well after 6 years, one can imagine the amount of  
glass weare they have created. Do you suppose the Crew recycles. They probably  
do. Well I answered my own question, so forget it.
From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:03:46 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct16.140955.15823@newshost.unh.edu+ ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
+In article <1992Oct14.191208.29970@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU+ ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
+
+[45 lines of Atsushi-bashing deleted...]
+
++Opinion wholeheartedly seconded!!
++Anyonce care to third it
+
+	My opinion is that brainless fools who quote entire articles only
+to follow up with a single comment of agreement and a request for others to
+do the same should be fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal...
+Anyone care to second this opinion? ;-) 

I second this!  And if they're LUCKY, we WON'T read them any Vogon poetry
first!

Tim

-- 
"I have since learned that words are only as valid as the mind that chooses
them.  To choose too carefully is to become pedantic, closing the imagination to
wider visions, yet to err the other way is to invite anarchy into one's mind."
   -- Christopher Priest, _The Affirmation_
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: faces
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:35:10 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <3892@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
> In article <BvrM55.FFt@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>        (about smiley faces, etc)
>>
>>If you're a good writer, they're not necessary, as you can effectively
>>get the tone across by your choice of words.  Which is why you never see
>>....
>>magazines.  They're only necessary for the rest of us.  Personally, I
>>couldn't write my way out of a paper bag, so I use them. :)
>>
> It's not quite the same. In a book or magazine, you develop a
> context in which to set your remarks. You can spend a lot of time
> .... 
> On the other hand, I'm quickly learning to give the benefit of the
> doubt when the interpretation of a post can go more than one way :-).

I agree with both of you.  A net is something like a telephone, in that
you can't 'see' who's talking.  But at least on the phone, you can 'hear'
the tone of voice.  When you're talking face to face, you can see the facial
expression.  In letters and cards, you usually are writing through an 
understood sort of friendship.  But the net is like ongoing dialogue
of people who don't know each other, but have common interests.  And
since it's an open forum, I believe the faces :-D  serve the function
of showing how your feelings are at the moment.  
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: O'Brian's Rank
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:47:36 GMT

In article <BvtJ8C.JGw@acsu.buffalo.edu> v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris Nasipak) writes:
>
>Wasn't there an episode where O'Brian refers to another officer (either an
>ensign or a lt.) as "One of my technicians"?
>
>I think that pretty much clears it up - He has to outrank the technician...

Ensign Crusher gave orders to a Lieutenant who was working under him,
when Picard assigned him to head a certain investigation.  (episode
name?  help!)
-- 
What did Dan Quayle get on his IQ test? 
                                             Drool.
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: "Realm of Fear" precedents *SPOILERS*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:50:12 GMT

In article <whelan.718058283@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu> whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan) writes:
>
>	Incidental spoilers for "Realm of Fear" follow:

>	-- It looks as if they've finally decided what O'Brian's rank
>is, since he now had one open pip (which I've previously argued can't
>apply to any commissioned rank), instead of two full ones, on his
>collar.  Note that this also implies that the two full pips really did
>mean he was a Lieutenant, and they just retconned it.  (Maybe O'Brien's
>rank was the one thing they did change by going back in time. :-))

this could be explained as a change in S'Fleet's uniform policy...
perhaps last season, all enlisted personnel had pips of a slightly
different color, with the number indicating rank (crewman, petty
officer, chief petty officer, etc.).  But that was too confusing, as
they could be mistaken for officers from a distance, so Fleet Admiral
Sulu decreed that all enlisteds should now have either no insignia, or
one hollow pip if they are a CPO...
-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Those Wacky Transporters
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:33:42 GMT

In article <70838@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <BvzDzp.KsC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford) writes:
>
>>	It seems to me that Transporters are the trendy plot device this 
>>season; we've had Barclay (and in some cases Barkley [ dog from Sesame St.
>>I guess]), Scotty and the children in "Rascals".  Shall we put some money 
>>down that in "Fistful of Datas" that there is some bizarre transporter
>>accident which creates a new Data from his pattern every 15 minutes?  I 
>>know I can't wait . . . 
>
>Great! :-/
>
>In season 3 it was the holodeck; in season 6, it's the transporters!
>I can't wait!!!
>
>*yawn*

And you know what that leaves for season 7! The... (gasp)

FOOD REPLICATORS!

I can see it now, some poor ensign trapped in his quarters with a faulty 
replicator, which just spews out lumpy oatmeal until he's neck deep in it...


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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"Ray, when somebody asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" -- Winston Zeddmore
From: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell,G2,3123,homephone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi question...
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:21:36 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

In article 85290008@hpcc01.corp.hp.com, bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce) writes:
> Does anyone know where Marina Sirtis is from, I really like her accent.
> Please don't flame me if this has been asked before.  E-mail if you please.
> 
> ________________________________________________________________
>   ___              Phil Bearce at HP San Jose - Components
>  (/__) /_   .  /)  internet: phil@hpmsfpb.sj.hp.com
>  /    /  )_(__(_ -     "Look out for that root."  -James Taylor
> ________________________________________________________________


Marina Sirtis is from London but is of Greek(?) descent.

tony
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STTNG SEASON SIX BROADCAST SCHEDULE
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:36:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.4276
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <719068198.16@fquest.FidoNet> Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man) writes:
<...Mike, you just now noticed that?

No, I just now commented on it.

<What the hell IS "People-Net", anyway?

I have no idea.
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From: 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy)
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Keywords: Totally Nude 
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:27:45 GMT

I seem to remember that in the episode where Q is reduced to human status,
he suddenly pops into existence on the Enterprise completely naked.

As a matter of fact, i watched the tape a friend had of it a few months
ago, and there was a quick spot where the screen was black that
corresponded to what what would have been the very revealing front view
of Q.  I figured that the local station inserted it in a fit of prudity.
does anyone else remember it like this?

no .sig

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: The Rumor of the Sela/TOS Episode...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 05:38:38 GMT


Hmmm...if there IS a TNG episode where Sela goes back in time and 
captures members of TOS in an attempt to wreck history, and it involves
Sulu and the Excelsior, maybe Scotty (who probably doesn't like this
future much anyway) could go back with him...  :)

--
---Chris Meadows  CHM173S@SMSVMA or CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
        "Wish in one hand and do something else in the other, then 
          squeeze them both and see which one comes true."
                    ---Corwin, NINE PRINCES IN AMBER by Roger Zelazny
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: *SPOILER* Comments on _Death_Count_ by L.A. Graf
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:16:16 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Chekov was made chief of security in ST:TMP by the great bird!!!!

wanna argue with that?? ;-)


-- 
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raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU, s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU 'phone: 660-3142
ram@lionet.wesley.OZ.AU, ram@coombs.anu.edu.au - in case you don't like RMIT! :)
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From: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:02:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bburnet@eng.clemson.edu (barry burnett) says:

>I find it odd that a petty officer would serve as tactical officer for Capt. Maxwell.  Also if O'Brien had been a transporter chief for 22 years as he stated, when did he have time to serve as tactical officer during the Cardassian war?  I would think it would require time to reach said rank.  When you consider his 22 years of transporter duty-----How old is this man anyway?
>

First, put some carrage returns in your messages (i.e., hit the `enter'
button at the end of your lines).  Icouldn't read you post until I got
ready to reply.

Second, I think he was just refering to a 22 year career in Starfleet up
to this point.  If O'Brien was an officer, he should be at least a
Commander by now, unless he REALLY screwed up sometime in his past.  If
he is an enlisted man, then after 22 years Chief Petty Officer would be
about right.

					Eric
From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Old/New together
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:16:33 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct9.104819.1821@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>In article <81146@ut-emx.uucp>, aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>> 	Why must time be so inflexible as to disallow time travel?  IOW, 
>> why can't the view of today be based on a past where time travelers have
{deleted}
>
>old Enterprise'.  Let's say SULU, who still somewhat looks like his
>younger self, gets transported in time to the future...to TNG Enter-
{deleted}

What about using the technique they use in Coke commercials?
Cut the old footage of TOS into the new footage of TNG.

In fact, you could take all the characters from TOS and mix up the
different scenes and create new shows.  Take two generally accepted
bad shows like "The Apple" and "Spock's Brain" and make one
marginally accpetable show.

BTW

:)
-- 
Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo. 
Confessions of St. Augustine, Book VIII, Chapter 7
From: smccoy@dw3g.ess.harris.com (Scott McCoy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (mistakes) ***SPOILERS***
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:56:03 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.tech
Organization: Harris Corporation Information Systems Division

*sigh*

Ok, people, go read some of Larry Niven's books.  In one of them, he 
does an excellent job of explaining the physics of mega-structures,
including Dyson Spheres.

If someone can remember the specific book, please post the reference
over to r.a.s.t, along with any followups.

-- 
Scott McCoy