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From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: TONEY MCCALLUM
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:51:00 GMT

Who won the Toney McCallum fight.  I caught a few rounds of it Sunday morning
but did not see the end.
From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeff - Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: RACK 'N RHYTHM - GRAND OPENING
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:15:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

RACK 'N RHYTHM  100 Grove Street   Worcester, MA is pleased to announce its'
                   - GRAND OPENING - September 10, 1992 -
20 Brunswick Gold Crown III top-of-the-line tables, a full bar with imported
and domestic beers, experienced staff to prepare your favorite mixed drink,
and a wide selection of non-alcoholic beverages for the 'designated_driver'.
 
Featured Guest (6:00 to 10:00 PM) ->  28 year old EWA MATAYA
 #1 ranked Female pool player in the World
 The *only* professional pool player on the Brunswick staff
 Featured on the Cover of the New York Times magazine
 Guest appearances on; David Letterman, Regis Philbin, CNBC, and many more.

Ms. Mataya will be demonstrating a variety of techniques and shots that you 
can include in your game.  Ms. Mataya will also play against RACK 'N RHYTHM
house-pro, Ken Perry, (1979 Fresno (CA) World Open 8 Ball Champion).

Join in the festivities, watch the pro's make it look 'easy', sip your
favorite cocktail, order a great sandwich (6 varieties - $3.00 each), and
Dance to the music on the largest Gold Crown III 'table' in the world!
 
RACK 'N RHYTHM is located in the Northworks Complex and is easily accessible
via Rtes. 9, 122, 290, and 495.
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From: dyoung@ecst.csuchico.edu (Douglas Young)
Subject: Re: fencers anywhere?????
Summary: How to find fencing clubs & tournaments in your area
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:49:07 GMT

In article <1684E93EE.ABANKS1@ua1vm.ua.edu> ABANKS1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Al Banks) writes:
>Hello!
>   Are there any fencers (foil, epee, or saber) on this list? if so, please
>respond to me here or at my account...abanks1@ua1vm.ua.edu  I'm interested in
>tournament information, as well as college clubs in the southeast (or anywhere,
>for that matter)
>                                 Al
>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> Al Banks (abanks1@ua1vm.ua.edu)        The University Of Alabama     
>  P. O. Box 8542                           Tuscaloosa, Alabama        
>  Tuscaloosa, Alabama USA 35486                                       
>  Telephone: (205) 556-2508                    Roll Tide!!            
>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>Duty is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things.
>You cannot do more.  You should never wish to do less.                 
>                                           -Robert E. Lee              
>+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+

Hi!  I am not in the southeast, but spent a semester at West Virginia Univ,
in Morgantown, WV in 1988. At the time, they had an active fencing club, even
with faculty involvement, even (as participants).  They hired a coach,
went to tourneys, etc.  If you live near there, you might contact them.

If you haven't already tried, you might contact the USFA
(United States Fencing Association -- the sport's governing body)
for info.  (They're slow, but sometimes they come through).  ;-)
Their address...

United States Fencing Association
1750 East Boulder Street
Colorado Springs, CO 80909-5774
TEL: (719) 578-4511
FAX: (719) 632-5737
TELEX NO: 187258

You might also contact the heads of the division and/or section you 
reside in or frequent.  You can get a listing from the USFA for $2.00.
Ask for the Directory of Officers.  (I don't vouch for the helpfulness
of this publication, as I have not yet purchased it.)

If you are a member of the USFA, you should be receiving notices from
your division officers (either the secretary or the chair) of
events in your area.  If you are not a member, I suggest you join.  The
fees are nominal ($25.00 for competitors, $10.00 for non-competitors)
and you receive a National Newsletter, 4 issues of _American_Fencing_
magazine, and insurance coverage (i think) while practicing.  Plus,
if you want to compete in most tournaments, you *must* be a member.

Good luck!  And feel free to contact me about your discoveries...

Yours in fencing,

Douglas

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From: jreid@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Joe Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Billiards/Pool
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:54:19 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Looking for billiards players.  Anyone out there play pool?
From: cjs01@cd.amdahl.com (Chris Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Darts, anyone?
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:34:24 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


	I know darts may be considered more of a "game" than a "sport" 
	but rec.games.misc is just a bunch of computer-types talking about
	the latest adventure game.  So I thougt I'd have better luck 
	posting here.

	Does anyone know how I can get info on leagues in this area
	and how I would go about joining/starting a team?  I've never
	played in a league, but I throw all the time at home.

	Also, are there any publications that I could get on the mailing
	list for?

	Any and all help is appreciated.
	Email is fine.

Chris
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But it turned out I was just in Nebraska	|(408) 746-4785
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			particularly gratifying.  Noone but those two need
			take it personally.
From: wayne@sw.stratus.com (Wayne Newberry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Practice Swings (wAS : re: Divots.....)
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:44:08 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug28.151421.27931@hemlock.cray.com>, par@teak18.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug28.191101.5766@meaddata.com>, john@meaddata.com (John Manion) writes:
> > If you're in hurry, don't come out and play.  I think it's time we all realized
> > that the sport of golf is growing very rapidly.  Everyone out on the course
> > is not a low handicapper, give em a break, they need time to learn the game as
> > much as you and I did when we started.  
> 
> You are making the assumption that slow play is caused by new or poor golfers.
> (Other people stereotype women golfers in this same manner.)  This, like most
> stereotypes, is often *not* the case; it really is more a case of
> personal attitude.  I know poor/new golfers who play quickly, and better
> golfers who play slowly.  It usually is an issue of paying attention, planning
> ahead, and doing what makes sense.
> 
> > If you want to bitch about slow play, bitch to the course owners, pros and 
> > managers who send groups off at 3-5 minute intervals.
> 
> I assume (hope?) you are exaggerating about 3-5 minute intervals, but there 
> is something to be said for this.  But I've seen slow play at courses that
> have 10 minute intervals between tee times.
> 
> 	- Peter Rigsbee

Peter's article reminded me of my beginning days playing golf.  I was fortunate
to start playing with a group of experienced golfers who played quickly.  From 
them, I learned to think about the shot while walking up to the ball, to be aware
of when my turn came, have my club selected and be ready to hit, and to move along
as quickly as possible in general.  My initial scores were well above 100, but we often
completed rounds in three and a half to four hours.

Those habits are, I believe, at the heart of quick play.  I fully agree with Peter
that we tend to stereotype beginners (and women) as being the cause of slow play,
yet when I look at it objectively, there are some good golfers that I sometimes play
with who drive me bat-house with the slowness of their play.  We can even see examples
of slow play on TV.  This past weekend, in the US Amateur, there were some people whose
play was positively yawn-provoking!  The pro tour has its own collection of these sloths.

While it can take more time to take 8 strokes on a hole than to take 4, it is over-
simplifying to equate high scores with slow play.  My thanks to Peter for reminding us
of this.

       - Wayne Newberry
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From: russb@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (russell.e.brodfuhrer)
Subject: Re: I'm goin' Dutch. Where to play!?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:18:43 GMT
Keywords: Holland golf suggestions

In article <nlaffra.714569996@cue>, nlaffra@cue.bc.ca (Neil Laffra) writes:
> Like the Summary stated, I am headed off to the Netherlands to visit
> family and friends but also hope to hit a few balls into real canals.
> Can anyone recommend any decent locations to try.I will try to just visit 
> the best even if only to collect a blank scorecard,in case they may
> not welcome "outsiders" (even though I am one of their "countrymen").
> 	By the way, what's Dutch for "FORE!!!!!!!!!  RIGHT!!! "?
> 

A year or so ago, the Met Golfer (official publication of the Metropolitan (NY)
Golf Association) published an article on Golf in Holland. Three courses
were *reviewed*, The Hague, Noordwijk, and Kennemer, all along the coast north
of The Hague. Of these, the author lavished the most praise on Noordwijk, which
hosts a European Tour event. All are probably private, but appear to accept
visitors (maybe weekdays?). Be advised that they will probably require proof
of handicap - your handicap card from your local golf association will do the
trick. Two numbers were given:

	Netherlands Board of Tourism - (212) 370-7367 (New York)
	Netherlands Golf Federation - 01-31-34-06-21888 (FAX in Holland)

Good luck, and post reviews when you get back.

Russ Brodfuhrer
att!hrmso!reb
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From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Subject: Re: Divots.....
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:33:15 GMT

... much deleted ...
> Oh, and another thing, why do people take these practice swings
> at 50% or less of what they're really going to swing.  This does NO good.
> 																				
I take a swish at the ground with long irons and my woods.  About an 1/8
swing.  Why?  Habit.  Addressing the ball.  Getting the feel for the
club.  It doesn't consume much time.  I don't get why people take
practice swings after the first hole.  And if they do take practice
swings  ONE IS ENOUGH!  

-- 
Steve Anastasi	
smanastasi@mmm.com
St. Paul, Minnesota
From: mdiamond@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Mark P. Diamond)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Fixing Ballmarks (was: Divots...)
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:57:56 GMT
Reply-To: mdiamond@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Mark P. Diamond)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <42760026@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> steed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary Steed) writes:

>Let's use the following example;
>                                        
>What I usually do is to insert my hole fixer into the ground near the 'X'. 
>Then I pry the bunched up turf back to fill the hole. If I go deep enough
>I can usually get enough dirt underneath to help fill the hole. Than I can 
>tamp it down with my putter, or my foot (are feet OK?) 
>

Close.  The correct way to repair a divot is to insert your green repair
tool around the edges and push the top of the fixer toward the depression,
essentially pushing the sod into the depression, much like you are
trying to straighten a leaning fence post. Then take your putter and tamp 
it down.


Note that this is different the the common yet mistaken method of inserting 
the tool into the green and pushing down, like scooping with a pitch fork.
That leaves a lump which is later cut down by the mower.




          _______ 
          |Tool  |    Not this
        ->|______|    way
              ||      <-                                                      
        ->     ||                                                             
Push this       ||                                                             
Way     ->    __________                                                   
______________/  Raised \                ____________ 
                  Area   |_____________/                                   
                          Depression

Mark <>
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From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: Slow Play  was:: Divots.....
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:55:33

   >      AMEN !!!!

   -JAS writes:
 
   I disagree!  I happen to take a few practice swings at each hole.
   I like to, and it makes me feel more confident.  Anyone playing in
   a group behind me who tries to rush me just may end up eating
   one of their own clubs (I wouldn't treat mine so badly).
   I mean it, too, so let someone try.  I pay my greens fees every
   weekend just like everyone else, and have the right to play at `
   my own pace.  If that includes practice swings on each hole, or even
   if I decided to mentally adjust myself for a few minutes with silent
   contemplation, that's my own choice.  Interfere with that at your
   own risk.


I can just see it now:  group falls behind the 
group ahead by a full hole; course marshal requests 
slow group to speed up play; irate golfer in slow 
group removes wedge from bag and takes divot from 
marshal's scalp, while screaming about violation of 
his 'civil golf rights'; marshal recovers, but is
fired for violating golfer's rights; ACLU honors
irate golfer for defending the rights of golfers
everywhere.


This 'test of character' we call golf has certainly 
taken on some new dimensions. 

Be careful out there. 1/2 ;-)


jeff       Would a rifle count as one of my 14 clubs?

feitctaj
From: David.Moore@tdkt.kksys.com (David Moore)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Losing Clubheads
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:58:00 -0600


CH>     Two of my friends and I not only didn't dimple the shaft tips when we
CH>put our clubs together, we didn't even use epoxy!  That's right, no epoxy.
CH>Instead, we used a product called Loctite (sp?) Black Max.  It's actually a
CH>thread-locking compound, but it has acquitted itself quite admirably in the
CH>present application.  After two years of golfing, not a single clubhead has
CH>been lost.  We'll see what long term use does, but I figure if it's going
CH>to fail, it would have done so by now.  It also has the useful property of
CH>being readily soluble in acetone, a plus if (like I) you are a bit messy
CH>when assembling your clubs.  (I must admit, though, I don't know the
CH>solubility of cured epoxy in acetone.  Anyone else?)

Shaft epoxy comes off nicely  with  either  acetone  or  Carbo-Chlor
(grip solvent)---wet or dry.

As  for  the  Loctite--interesting  idea,  but  how  do  you  REMOVE
clubheads from the shafts (want to change the shaft or head  without
destroying  them).   The  attraction of epoxy is that it breaks down
under heat--allowing you to change components.  Does  Loctite  break
down  under  heat (or can the head be just removed mechanically with
no damage)?  The temp of epoxy heat breakdown  is  just  50  degrees
less  than  the  melting  point  of  a  graphite shaft BTW (which is
good!).  I suspect the Loctite might have  a  high  breakdown  point
which  might make it a no go for graphite.  Loctite may be OK if you
never want to change components.

Hey, to each his own. We all  need  to  experiment--who  knows  what
we'll find?

CH>> I  don't even want to think about what a high speed club head flying
CH>> through the air could do to someone.

CH>Probably about as much as the ball would have done to the idiot who stood
CH>in front of your shot.

Or to the side or back of or...... a clubhead could let loose at any
part of the swing.


 From Minnesota--highest per capita of golf nuts in the Nation!
 David.Moore@tdkt.kksys.com
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: lekberg@screwdriver.Prime.COM (Paul Lekberg)
Subject: Re: Slow Play
Reply-To: lekberg@screwdriver.Prime.COM (Paul Lekberg)
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:03:00 GMT

In article <4901@balrog.ctron.com>, spillane@ctron.com (Jim Spillane) writes:
|> 

|> I disagree!  I happen to take a few practice swings at each hole.
|> I like to, and it makes me feel more confident.  Anyone playing in
|> a group behind me who tries to rush me just may end up eating
|> one of their own clubs (I wouldn't treat mine so badly).
|> I mean it, too, so let someone try.  I pay my greens fees every
|> weekend just like everyone else, and have the right to play at `
|> my own pace.  If that includes practice swings on each hole, or even
|> if I decided to mentally adjust myself for a few minutes with silent
|> contemplation, that's my own choice.  Interfere with that at your
|> own risk.
|> 

As mentioned in my previous article, I am not against a few practice
swings.  But if a golfer usually doesn't hit the ball well, why
take more than 2 practice swings?

Secondly, just because you pay your green fees, or your club membership
or an entry fee to a tournament be it local, state or national, 
does not give you the right to play at your own pace if your pace
is deemed unacceptably slow.   Unacceptably slow is any group that
falls 1 hole behind the group in front of them and the group in back
is waiting.  If the group in front happens to be fast and there's
no one waiting in back of you, no problem.     Also, if you or
your group wants to play slow and there's people in back waiting
and there's no one in front, wave them through as a courtesy.

-Paul
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:44:02 EDT
From: <DNB102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: JACK NICKLAUS

HEY--
ALL OF YOU JACK NICKLAUS FANS OUT THERE WRITE ME AND TELL ME YOUR FAVORITE JACK
NICKLAUS STORIES OR THINGS YOU MIGHT OF SEEN ABOUT HIM ON TV.  HE'S THE BEST
GOLFER EVER.  TALK TO ME.
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From: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Subject: Re: 3 Club Tournament--Which Three?
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 21:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Distribution: usa


All the replys about the 3 club tournament seem to want to include
woods.  I've seen a few drivers and 3 woods.  I'm sure some of it may
depend on the course, but I sure wouldn't bring a wood with me.
I'd bring the longest iron I'm comfortable with, because I feel a 
long iron can be made to do half shots and short shots much better
than a wood can.  Since a putter is not automatically included,
I have a much easier time putting with a 1, 2 or 3 iron than with
any wood.  I'd want to take my favorite long iron, mid iron and
short iron.  In my own case, I'd carry a 1 iron, 7 iron and Pitchin'
wedge.  A 1 iron, 7 iron can get you to many par#4s and a 1 iron,
7 iron, 7 iron should get you to many par#5s.  All 3 of these clubs
can get you out of various trouble spots such as hazards or sand
traps and I can putt fairly decently with my 1 iron.
 
Another interesting tournament I played in once, which is along
similar format, is that at the beginning of the round you start
out with the standard 14 clubs.  After every non par#3 hole, you
must DQ a club.  Perhaps the first hole you DQ a driver cause you
never could hit it anyway, then perhaps a 60 degree wedge.  But
eventually the choices get tough.  Some of them depend on the types 
of holes you have left.  One of the tougher choices is when to
get rid of the putter.  I ended that tournament with a 3 iron, but 
I know now that I can hit a 1 iron, that would be what would 
still be in my hand when I accept the trophy.

Dan King
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Subject: Re: Practice Swings (wAS : re: Divots.....)
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:52:07 GMT

From article <1992Aug28.103545@screwdriver.Prime.COM>, by lekberg@screwdriver.Prime.COM (Paul Lekberg):
> |> 
> |> It is all personal preference, what makes you comfortable on the course, and
> |> hey if you want to take 5 practice swings, go for it, who cares.  Relax.
> |> 
> |> -- 
> 
>   I'm not against taking a practice swing or two but taking more 
> than two will invite slow play.   There is nothing more aggrevating
> than watching someone take 2,3,or 4 practice swings and then proceed
> to hit it sideways or just beyond their shadow.   If you are not
> a good player, don't waste your time and others (especially those
> behind you) by taking all those practice swings.  "Grip it and
> rip it".
>
Another reason you should encourage beginners to take no more than one
practice swing is stamina.  When my wife was starting, she hit 75 on
9 holes (par 36) and took two or three practice swings.  By the
5th hole, she was tired and her arms were dead.  By not taking any
practice swings, she played stronger and further. 

-- 
Steve Anastasi	
smanastasi@mmm.com
St. Paul, Minnesota
From: ewing@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (David Ewing)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:57:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR Corp., Network Products - San Diego


Re: the top 25 players and the clubs they play :

I believe Ian Woosnam plays Maruman irons (I have seen him
along with Curtis Strange in print ads).

-- 
*************************************************************************
David A. Ewing                             David.Ewing@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:36:46 GMT

In <1717@grivel.une.edu.au> jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au (MR J CAMPBELL) writes:

>Mark now plays with Bridgestone and whilst their precept blade is a truly 
>awesome thing to behold Mark doesn't appear to be the blade type (obviously
>previous ping & 845 man). Thus one woulb assume he uses the new J's cavity
>back series or something similar from the Bridgestone range. He has certainly
>been Bridgestone bagged and visored since the US Open (or maybe it was the PGA
>we don't get telecasts of too many US PGA events here in Aust.)

>					Cheers Cambo 

Y'er right. Mark does play Bridgestone. I confused it with Mizuno as the
only thing I recall about his clubs were that they were Japanese.
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