From: 3040_3744@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Reply to Mubahila query
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:15:23 EST

In article <1992Apr5.214516.10121@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, khant@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
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> Sorr noor i can not send you salam. Salam can only be sent to Muslim.
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> Why did not you reply my question. The question was, why did your peer
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> (Mirza Tahir) ran away from a Mubahila, which was supposed to be held 
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> in Lahore at Meenar-e-Pakistan. I think i am talking about october 1988.
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> The claim of oponent Maulana was, i will make muslim to Recent peer of
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> Qadianism, otherwise i am ready to be killed infront of all population
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> of lahore.  Could you reply a sesible answer for that. If your peer(Tahi
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> r Mirza) was correct then why did nor he cam for the Mubahila.
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>   TARIQ MOHAMMAD KHAN
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 I am surprised that you an educated person is asking this question. Sir, do
you know waht Mubahila is? That Mulvi was also as ignorant as any other
illitrate person. Mubahila is not a new thing, Holy prophet of Islam at one
time when discussing the Islam with the christan delegation of Najran gave this
Mubahila challenge after giving evry aurgument to support his claim which was
contineoulsy denied by those christain. And the challenge was that you call
your sons we will call our sons you call your women we will call our women you
call your childern and we will call our childeren than we togther will pray to
our Lord to send his curse on the lairs. The christain did not accept this
challenge. Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmed also gave this challenge to non Ahmadie
Ulama to come forward and accept the challenge of Mubahila in the same sense
and announce in the news papers that whatever You say against Hazrat Mirza
Gulam Ahmed of Qadian is true and Ahmadies are false and you are write on all
such acusations than you at the end say that Allah's curse on the party which
is lair (since you become one party now against Ahmadies). And we have already
decleared and published that all such accusations are false and than we have
already accepted the challenge of Mubahila by seeking curse of Allah if we are
liar in such beleives and we are liar if such accusations are correct. Non of
the Mulvi came up to accept that challenge within the context to Quranic
teachings. This is total stupidity to ask Mirza Tahir Sahib to travel evrywhere
in the world with his entire community to accept Mubahila Challenge. Its
practically impossible and against the Quranic teachings about Mubahila and
against the Sunnah of Holy Prophet of Islam S.A.W. He never asked that
delegation to bring the entire christain nation to Mecca or Medina to accept
the Mubahila. He simly said that you pray to Lord that curse of the Lord be on
the liar and we will also pray that curse of Lord be on the liar. And than Lord
will show us who is liar by sending his curse. He never asked that lets jump
from Minara Pakistan or some other miara to prove who servive and who does not.
That's just stupid and silly. Instead of leting Allah to show the difference
between true one and false one , Mullah of today take evry thing in their own
hands like they are themselfe (Allah forbid) Allah. Until the Mubahila date
expired which was one full year not a single Mullah came forward to accept the
challenge in the context of Ilamic teachings. And after the date passed now
they are out of the sand again. But Allah will surely distinguish the true one
from the lair.
M.Hameed Munawar                                                                     
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