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From: dander@guild.socal.com (Damon Ander)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: alt.rnr.punk (Re: alt.music.hardcore to be created
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:57:33 PST
Organization: TheGuild[FTS]

Hey, I'm all for it!  I started a local sub of that sort (although it's not limited to punk)....I would LOVE to see one here...

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From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: <None>
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:26:04 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Back in black, the new MANIC STREET PREACHERS single is as expected totally and
utterly superb.
    For anyone who's interested, the bonus tracks include the brilliant new
song "Dead Yankee Drawl" which concerns the band's opinion on the USA-not very
favourable actually- and their debut single "Suicide Alley" which is glorious.

Out in January is a BRAND NEW single "Patrick Bateman", named after a mass
murderer or something.

I'm writing a book on the band, or at least planning to...if anyone can mail me
any information I might not have or relevant addresses etc I'd be so grateful
I'll probably burst.

Tee tA tA

stay beautiful, Lucas.
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Porno for Pyros sounds real good
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:02:07 GMT

Finally heard a tape of one of their shows. Sounded real
good...the sound is definitely different from anes stuff.
You could easily recognize Perkins drumming...and Perry's
voice!

--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:52:30 -0500 
From: Michael Hamilton Walker <mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GRUNGE and MASTURBATION

Well that's just a plain groovy post, chock full o'
interesting idears..........

but where does masturbation come (no pun intended) into it?



Mike Walker                |The bigger the cushion'
mw5e@andrew.cmu.edu        |The sweeter the pushin'
YARG!!!!		        -Spinal Tap
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:52:38 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SCREAMING TREES/review of latest & Darling Buds
	<1992Nov12.172549.25487@athena.cs.uga.edu>

>In article <11NOV199216340452@csa1.lbl.gov> hudson@csa1.lbl.gov (ERIC
HUDSON) w
>rites:
>>
>>The Trees pretty much blew away a sold out crowd at Slims's.  Blistering 
>>versions of "Alice Said", "Nearly Lost You", "Ivy" (tribute to the Stooges?).
>>For the final encore they erupted with "End of the Universe", and they 
>>just about melted at the end.  Don't miss this band!!!!!
> 
>Some of their songs are good.  I wouldn't say excellent.  The album overall
>is a bit dissappointing.  Too much samenes, it drags, no tricky plays. 
>Compared to the Darling Buds first CD, it fails.

What? The Darling Buds and the Screaming Trees in the same sentence? I
don't see any comparison. Am I missing something?

Megan
From: Kane@Xanadu.com (Charles Foster Kane)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:45:02 GMT
Organization: The Evening Herald

>Someone claimed that a Cocteau Twins album will be released imminently 
>(within three weeks).  Can anyone verify this ? 

As for lyrics the Twins themselves have said many times that often the 
lyrics are nonsense sounds and words designed to fill the vocal melody line.

					-CFK
From: t_msowers@qualcomm.com (MARTHA SOWERS)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: cure mailing list
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:46:41 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.

Would someone e-mail me the address for the cure mailing list, also?

Thanks,

Martha
From: sl5dg@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Big Country
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:57:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov20.212526.24008@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jrs@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Janet R. Starosta) writes:
> In article <drnqwym@lynx.unm.edu> mbess@draco.unm.edu () writes:
>>I'm always looking for news about these guys. They came out with an album last year but I haven't heard anything since. If anyone has 
>>some info it would be greatly appreciated. Especially if the info is from Scotland.
>>
>>
>>If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
> 
> I'm also very anxious for any information about the availability
> of that latest album here in the U.S.  I know it's called No Place
> Like Home and was issued by Vertigo Records.  I suspect it hasn't
> been released over here yet.  
> 
> --
> ***************************************************
> Janet R. Starosta | jrs@virginia.edu | 804-924-4605
> ***************************************************


  Sad but true this album is not released in the U.S. A domestic release has
  never been posted.  However it can be aquired thru a fine import shop about
any-way in the U.S.  Also if you are hard core info tect on Big Country, try
reading melodly maker out of England.  There are ton of articiles and release
date for single and albums that never arrrive in the States that you want.

	If you have real bucks and love older Big Country, there is a box set
that has incredible remixes of classic Big Country, about 9 mixes in all. 
Totally worth the $90.  Please reply because I do have and extra box set from
Japan if you really want it.  Price is the same, it has never been opened. 
there are four discs in all, including Steedltown with  is out of Print.

	*********** Jeff 
			sl5dg@ cc.usu.edu ************
From: whagius@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Walker Logan Hagius)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:09:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

	To Mr. Johnson, who decided to rip on Pearl Jam and Faith No More:
I can see how maybe these bands' particular styles may not (and do not)
appeal to all people. However, that doesn't mean you have to announce it
to everyone here and come across as an ignorant prejudiced asshole.
I'm sure, deep down inside, you have a brain, and in that brain there
is probably some intelligence and a taste for music that does not include
PJ and FNM. Why don't you use it--listen to the music you like, buy what you
like, read about the bands that you like, and don't read/buy/listen to the 
bands you don't appreciate. We'd all be better off.

				---Walker Logan Hagius---

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From: mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon")
Subject: Re: THE THE new album??
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:06:31 GMT

dnonast@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU  writes:
> 
> Does anybody out there in netland know when THE THE's new album
> is due out? The last I heard it was to come out at the same
> time as Peter Gabriel's new effort, but I have yet to see it
> anywhere.
> 
> Thanks...
> Doug
> 

The local record store is listing January... No specific date,
though.
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From: dpotosky@dewey.NMSU.Edu (David Potosky)
Subject: Name This Song (Blur? Ride?)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:26:33 GMT

I think that this song is done by blur or ride.

excerpts:

	'Cant feel, cause I know...'
	Chorus: "UhhhaahhhAAHHHH....Sing to me....'
	
	and 'So whats the worth, of this.....whats the worth...of this...'

This is from memory and probably not in correct order.

Thanks.,


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From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:42:31 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

Superchunk are/were touring...i'm not sure.  They played albany,ny a
couple of weeks ago.  They also have an album called Tossing Seeds
which is a collection of previously released 7"'s that is really good.
I'm sure they have stuff out on comps( i think a K records comp. and
maybe on a Simple Machines comp.  but i'm not sure).  The record label
is Merge.  Merge and Superchunk are based in Chapel Hill, NC.  If
anyone else can fill in a missing pieces...help me out.
From: watts@csa1.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: SPEED RACER Song:  Who does it?!
Date: 15 Nov 1992 14:24 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.196
Summary: SPEED RACER Song:  Who does it?!
Keywords: Speed Racer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <sal.721690887@hela.iti.org>, sal@iti.org (Sascha A. Linn) writes...
>Does anyone out there happen to know the name of the group that has
>taken the Speed Racer cartoon and put it to a beat?  I heard it a
>couple weeks ago when I was in Chicago.  If you do know who it is,
>please let me know.  I would also like to know where I can get a
>hold of it (local stores have never heard of it).

I can think of two possibilities:  Two Nice Girls do a cover of it on
_Like_A_Version_, and the Mr. T Experience do it occasionally in their live
shows.  I would guess you're talking about the former, though.

>THANX!!

>Sascha Linn :-)
>sal@iti.org

Paul
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From: harm0182@mach1.wlu.ca (Jason Harmer u)
Subject: Re: Morrissey=Sell Out?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:00:29 GMT

>I believe that his goals ave not changed since the days
>of the Smiths,  he has just been able to realize these goals better
>as a solo artist.

I tend to agree... besides in Britain, The Smiths were hardly what you  
would call an underground alternative band. More like 'preppie' I believe
is the proper genre to associate them with...

One more thing... Johnny Marr has talent, although electronic is rated as
'blah'. He has potential, let's just hope he keeps clear of Wax Trax.

															J.

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From: hout@eastham.Berkeley.EDU (dave hout)
Subject: Rise Robots Rise
Reply-To: hout@eastham.Berkeley.EDU (dave hout)
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:14:11 GMT

					
|> 
|> 
|> 	I believe the band you are refering to is 'Rise Robots Rise'.  They
|> are indeed signed with TVT.  They are an eleven or twelve-member band; their
|> music is quite unique, because they combine hip-hop, metal, soul, jazz, and 
|> just about every other flavor of music.  I saw their debut at the Limelight
|> in NYC back during the 1991 College Media Journal (CMJ) Music Marathon. They
|> were absolutely incredible live.  I can get you more info on them if you'd
|> like.
|> 

I just saw RRR last week at the Paradise in Boston.  They were amazing.  When I saw them
they had 8 people on stage.  I was in a bar next door after the show and one of the guys
walked in.  He was the keyboardist/percussionist and he said that he and the lead singer
did the whole album in his basement.  They added the other people for live shows.

He also said that they don't do too many live shows.  Too bad.  Best show I've seen 
in a long time.

Dave

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Subject: Re: REM   AFTP very weak
From: justman@husc10.harvard.edu (Craig Justman)
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:57:38
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk's message of 16 Nov 92 16:42:17 GMT


>>Best lp for aeons...beats the shit outta Out of time anydayweekyear..

right.  like thats REALLY hard to do.  theyre BOTH poor efforts. add Green 
to that list of black holes as well.  the best effort to date (IMHO) is
Murmur.

.Doc
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Subject: Re: Codeine
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:49:20 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC
Keywords: Awesome!!

In <13647@ecs.soton.ac.uk> sdm91r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stuart Maclean) writes:

>Any Netters out there into Codeine ? I went to see them last night at the Powerhaus in London. Awesome !! The best band in the world, and the best gig for a fair while. Marred by initial electric problems, they completely stunned the crowd.Everyone shoul
>d own their two LPs. 
>Does anybody know if that was their first UK show.?? 
>Support were Sawtooth, Manifesto, Lovechild. Sawtooth were great. The other two
>very ordinary. Lets have some Codeine feedback !!
>Stuart.

Welp, I saw them in the U.S. (N.Y.C. to be percise) at Wetlands with
-Velocity Girl-, -Gravel- and -Beat Happening-.  They were good.  Their
music and name go together well (the do sound like coedine if coedine
sounded like anything).
While I don't think they are the best, they sure as hell are a lot better
than tons of bands out there....

jack
jis@panix.com


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From: jdrage@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (your humble friend and narrator)
Subject: Re: LUSH LYRICS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:43:51 GMT

In article <98691@netnews.upenn.edu>, lees@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Sang T Lee) writes:

> "Nothing Natural"
.
.
.

I don't suppose you have the lyrics to "De-Luxe" from _Gala_, by any chance?
I've been trying to figure those out for some time now with no luck.

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_/_/_/ _/  _/ _/  _/  _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/                    when you were young?
From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2320.66.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp>, neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) writes...
>Gee, is it just me, or does Pearl Jam really suck as badly as I think
>they do?  It's like Pearl Jam decided to take mainstream 70s rock and
>put the Seattle label on it.
> 
><I smell a long list of replies coming....>
>                                          

Nope, not worth a reply.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fetterer@marlin.micro.umn.edu (Andrew Fetterer)
Subject: Re: Soup dragons tom tom club james etc
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:12:48 GMT

Try the ENTER key. It works like this.

Kinda nice, huh?

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From: pecot@wam.umd.edu (Jonathan Michael Pecot)
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:49:01 GMT

In article <5784@sumax.seattleu.edu> kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu (Pretty Rainy Out) writes:
>Ooops, sorry about that null post.  Anyway, I was saying:
>Someone loaned me Superchunk's "No Pocky For Kitty" and I've really been
>liking it.  I wanted to know if anyone could tell me more about this band,
>like if they have anything else out. 
>
>Also, I figure from the credits that they're from North Carolina (am I
>right?), which made me think that a lot of the really distinctive bands
>that I've liked over time are from what would in general be called the
>South, e.g., early Fetchin' Bones, Antietam, Pylon, Eleventh Dream Day....
>

      In short, Superchunk rock.  'No Pocky' is, in my opinion, their
      best album, but all of their stuff is awesome.  They have another
      album out on Matador, just called 'Superchunk' that is also really
      great.  The sound is less focused than in 'No Pocky', and it sounds
      more noisy and Sonic Youth-y.  They also released a bunch of singles
      on Matador and most on their own label called Merge.  These were 
      collected on an album called 'Tossing Seeds' that came out on Merge
      and Touch & Go over the summer.  This has a couple songs that are 
      also on 'Superchunk' and 'No Pocky', but it is well worth the price.
      Also, Superchunk just released a new single called 'Mower' that is 
      backed with a great song called 'On the Mouth' (the CD single also
      has a great live version of Fishing - one of the singles on 'Tossing
      Seeds')  Get all of these.  They are probably the best new band I've
      heard in a while.  Also check them out live, if you get the chance.
      I've seen them 3 times, and they're probably the best live band I've
      ever seen (despite how this may sound, I am hard to please)

      They are from North Carolina, and are part of a scene which many are
      calling 'the next Seattle.'  I've only heard a couple of other bands
      from that area.  Polvo seem pretty cool - they have an album out on
      Merge.  The only other band I've heard - Erectus Monotone - didn't 
      impress me.  As far as being part of the 'Southern Indie Rock' 
      Tradition, I suppose that they were influenced by those bands, but
      they don't really seem that 'Southern' to me. (Although Michael Stipe
      is supposedly a big fan of theirs.)

      Anyhow,  they are awesome.  Check them out.


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From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Subject: Re: Pale Saints 4ad stuff?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:24:43 GMT

THE WORD on Pale Saints:

	1989: _Barging Into The Presence of God_ EP (BAD 910, 4AD)
		Sight of You / She Rides the Waves / Mother Might

	1990: _The Comforts of Madness_ album (CAD 0002, 4AD)

	      _Half-Life_ EP (BAD 0015, 4AD)
		Half-life (Remembered) / Two Sick Sisters / Baby Maker /
		A Revelation

	1991: _Flesh Balloon_ EP (BAD 1009, 4AD)
		Porpoise / Hunted / Kinky Love / Hair Shoes (demo)

	1992: _In Ribbons_ album (CAD 2004, 4AD)

	      "Throwing Back the Apple" single
		Throwing Back the Apple / Blue Flower / Half-life (remix) / 
		Reflections From a Watery World

	Formed in Leeds, 1989.  Certainly not "grandfathers of shoe-gazing"
though they were around before Chapterhouse, Revolver etc hit the scene.  
Formerly a three-piece (Ian Masters, Graeme Naysmith and someone else I can't
remember) they were joined by Meriel Barham (around the time of _Flesh
Balloon_) who was in Lush before they were signed.  I like them a lot.

		Matthew.
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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Underdog (was Re: new BAD BRAINS??????????)
Originator: tphailey@c00092-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:47:59 GMT


Concernig Underdog, hey, great band. Their easiest release to find would be
their album "Vanishing Point" and it's pretty good. However, the Swedish label
Far Out (I think) not too long ago re-released their demos on one piece of
vinyl. I know the Swedish label is distributed in the US by someone, but I 
can't think of who right of hand at 4:30 in the morning. But what I've heard 
of their early demo stuff is incredible. Great hardcore concerning the 
important issues in life like skateboarding. It's worlds away from their 
"Vanishing Point" material, but both are good. The "Vanishing Point" album is
available on Caroline. So you can find it most anywhere. As for what they're 
up to today, good question. I know Chuck Treece went off an did a solo album
which I've heard is quite good. No telling what the other guys are up to. I 
think they broke up and turned into different stuff. If you like "Vanishing
Point", check out a band called McRad. Chuck Treece played on it and some of
it sounds like later period Underdog, though it came out long before 
"Vanishing Point". Oh, it just came to me, Far Out is distributed in the US by
Head Trip records. 

TOMASS
From: timothy@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy J Mentzer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: GRUNGE and MASTURBATION
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:09:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <Ef2njfm00UhWA9gXk2@andrew.cmu.edu> "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Grunge, grunge, grunge. Jesus. Whoever coined that word with the intent
>of encompassing everything coming out of Seattle was really off his or
>her rocker. Pearl Jam (whether you like the band or not) does not sound
>like Mudhoney does not sound like Soundgarden does not sound like
>Nirvana does not sound like Alice in Chains, and on and on and on
>(though, granted, all of these bands probably do sound more like each
>other than, say, Bell Biv Devoe).
>
>In fact, the whole notion of shoving bands into these little cubby holes
>and assigning a (usually arbitrary) family tree to each (*this band*
>sounds like Sonic Youth, Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin) is completely
>ridiculous. Rock and roll came about because people wanted music they
>could listen to and really identify with -- now people are analyzing it
>to death, showing off how much they know about old music and how cool
>they are (or, perhaps more appropriately, were). 
>
>
>*BUT* the gods demand blood. They must categorize. So here I am. I
>confess it freely -- I like guitar sounds, so I'm bound to gravitate
>toward the bands mentioned in the first paragraph (well, except BBD).
>Okay. Now let's label me a grunge head, and let's say that all the 
>bands I listen to all sound the same. Fine. Is everyone happy now? Good.
>Now can we please talk about music without feeling the need to say that
>all bands are just ripping each other off? Good.
>
>Megan "Little Miss Grunge" Dietz, who really has heard of New York, LA,
>and lots of other cool places
>---------------------------
>I don't need to be forgiven


Actually I think Rollins said it best:

     "I think labels are boring.  If you want to write don't say I'm a writer,
      just do it.  Ted Bundy never said he wanted to be a serial killer he 
      just did it...Never see him doing a Nike commercial."
                              --Henry Rollins

tim

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: att (Bob R)
Subject: Re: Identify Smiths' song
Organization: nnn
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:17:24 GMT

>In article <1992Nov6.162838.15414@b11.b11.ingr.com> cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle) writes:
>I need some help identifying a Smiths song.  Its probably four or more years
>old.  It starts out with a strange, whining guitar part, which continues
>intermittently through the song, and is backed by an industrialish background
>beat, which continues through the whole song.  The first line is "I am the
>sun, and the air..."   What is the name of this song, and what CD can it be
>found on?

"How Soon Is Now," originally from the "William It Was Really Nothing" single.

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