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Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine Casting
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:28:04 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <92227.235328WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> In article <1992Jul30.074459.24672@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
> (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT) says:
>>
>>Has anyone heard of finalized DSN casting?  I don't mean rumors, I mean the
>>real thing.  Filming should start soon so I figure that casting should be
>>about done-- Help with truth...
>>
> 
> Well we do know that Michelle Forbes, Colm Meany, and Rosalind Chao will be
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> transfered over to DSN, that's much for certain.  

Sorry... from her latest con appearances and other news from the last few
weeks, Forbes ain't in DS9 and her character is replaced by a character named
Sharon <somethingortheother> who is a Bajoran Colonel or something.  She
doesn't like the Federation too much and doesn't think the Feds should be
meddling around in Bajora.

So, Forbes *is not* in DS9 and Cinemafantastique was obviously going
on some pretty old info (considering that Forbes hasn't, as of a few weeks
ago, even signed to do any more TNG episodes).


> As for the others, those
> identities are kept secret.  There wasn't any mentioned other than those three
> already crossing over to the new spinoff.  Check out the latest DOUBLE issue of
> CinemaFantastique Magazine that has Picard, Data, and Spock(background) on the
> cover

-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
"BOB Is Our Hope/Jesus is Our BOB/Jesus Is BOB Hope" - Anonymous SubGenius
__________________________________________________________________________
From: jrs@zippy.unet.com (John Switzer Frame 3.0)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:49:02 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <Bt8zyo.1oy@nntp-sc.Intel.COM> dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J. McCarthy) writes:
>Jonathan Sheir (jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
>> I just recently found out from a reliable source that Geordi will be killed
>> in the premiere in an attempt to save Data's life.  LeVar Burton wished to
>> leave and the writers thought it would be a good way to send him off 
>
>
>	Yeah, right.

No kidding. Let's see, Spock dies, regrets it and comes back. Tasha Yar
dies, regrets it and comes back. Any bets on how Geordi will be resurrected?
(assuming he dies in the first place, and I doubt Mr. Burton would be 
so short-sighted. After all, if he wanted to leave, there are LOTS of ways
to explain his absence.)
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: re: spoilers-- enough  Posting again
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:47:57 GMT




OK, this is last try I am going to attempt.  If this is readable, this
is try #3.  My last two postings didn't work.  As I have said twice before,
Enough is enough about ripping on Jonathen Sheir (though he is an idiot
for not putting *spoiler* in the title).  I am pretty PO'd myself, but I
say lets all wait and see.  If Geordi does die, we can rip on him some
more, if not, then we are no worse for wear.  He made a mistake, and he 
knows it, but let's wait and see.  I hope this gets posted.  Third times
a charm.  Have a nice day =)!!
					Jeffrey Jo






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|Jeffrey S. Jo                  |		U.S.S. Enterprise              |
|Computer Operations		| Galaxy Class - Starfleet Registry NCC-1701-D |
|University of Nebraska at Omaha|        Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars     |
|tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu        |             Launched Stardate 40759.5        |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: STARS ON OTHER SERIES
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:51:00 EDT

      This does not involve any of the regulars of ST:TNG, but it is too much
a coincidence (or a planned maneuver) to let go.
      Fully three of the guest actors in the episode "Family" were seen in
a movie called "The Seven Percent Solution".  (A movie about Sherlock Holmes
and Sigmund Freud; it was a good movie, by the way.)
     Samantha Eggar who played Picard's sister-in-law played Mrs. Mary Watson;
     Jeremy Kemp, Picard's brother Robert, played the villain;
and Georgia Brown, Worf's mother, played Mrs. Freud.
     Also, (perhaps most importantly,) the script of the movie was written
by Nicholas Meyer based on his book.  (If you don't know who he is, what are
you doing on this board?)  Now you know why Holmes was Spock's ancestor.
(I also note that this is the ONLY non-Doyle Holmes story that I enjoyed
reading.)
 
    Finally, for those of you (like me) who does not have a life;
    I have seen an embarrassingly bad movie which featured Marina Sirtis
and Kirstey Alley in topless scenes.  For the sake of taste, I will not
mention the title here, but if I get enough notes, perhaps I will reveal
the title.  (For all I know, it already has been revealed.  Hell, I'm a
newcomer to the net.)  This is partially a test on my part to see
if Shatner was right.
 
   As for how I found the movie, the only excuse I offer is I also saw the
first six Friday the Thirteenth movies.  I can't say I'm proud of it, but
hey, sometimes it happens.
From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cause & Effect (*SPOILERS*) possible explaination
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug12.132244.7902@rtsg.mot.com>, bringman@rtsg.mot.com (Bill Bringman) writes...
>I'm sure I missed when this question was asked, but

>In article <whelan.713575701@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu> whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan) writes:
>>
>>	Well, I like to think that the fact that the E blew up near a
>>spacetime anomoly (aka "the spacial effect) had something to do with
>>the loop forming.
>>
> 
>The question I have is how did the other ship get in the loop?
>If the loop included the big E crashing with it, and was finally broken by
>avoiding the crash, what kept the other ship waiting in the loop
>for 80 years?  If something else did keep the other ship in the loop,
>where is it during the crash and near crash with the big E?

it has been supposed that the other ship, the Boseman, entered a temporal 
rift, bypassing 80+ years to TNG's present, where it collided with the 
Enterprise, starting the loop. so, if this is what really happened, the 
Boseman was in the loop for just as many days, 17.5. 

  +                                  +                                       +
   sandra guzdek + username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu + til 28 Aug 1992 
       6037 Devlin Avenue + Niagara Falls, NY + 14304 + after 28 Aug 1992 
    "Higher emotions are what separate us from the lower orders of life... 
                  Higher emotions, and table manners."
                       --- Deanna Troi, _Imzadi_
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re:  Guinan revealed as a Time Lord!
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:11:53 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <66527@hydra.gatech.EDU>, cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
> In article <6066@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
> )come on, everybody play along!
> )just make up a goofy idea for the new season (the more ludicrous, the better)
> )and forget about those silly spoiler warnings!
> )loads of fun!

All Right!  I'll bite, too.

-- 
    g  b    gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca	"We come in Peace, shoot to kill,
gggg   b    Victoria, B. C.	 	 We come in Peace, shoot to kill, men"
g  g t b    (God's waiting room)		_Star Trekking_, The Firm
ggggtttbbbb  
   g t b  b 		"If I had a rocket launcher
g  g t bbbb		 If I had a rocket launcher,
gggg  tt        	 some son of a bitch would die"  B. Cockburn
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From: blanche@diana.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Keywords:  Grace Murray Hopper
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:48:46 GMT
From: earharta@sdsc.edu (Alan Earhart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Data's definition of friendship
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:56:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.16ujjjINNrj2
Reply-To: earharta@sdsc.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @UCSD.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sluggo.sdsc.edu

heidi-ho,

Although I remember someone asking about this qoute and what
episode it was in, I don't remember if the poster ever received
a reply.

I don't remember the exact qoute ( something about his neural
pathways get 'used' to someone's input ) but it was in the 
episode that had Yar's sister in it.  I wish I knew the title!


I hope this was some help.
Anyone else need any 'almost-information' ? ;)

Alan

I gotta work on putting more "I"'s in my sentences.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Saturday, 15 Aug 1992 00:10:14 EDT
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST VI:TUC Musings/Comments (*SPOILERS?*)

In article <a7b62a5e@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au>,
ralph.buttigieg@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Ralph Buttigieg) says:


> l> The real outrage to me was the fact that she didn't get
> l> credit as Janice Rand, but simply as some anonymous crew member. Any
> l> theories as to why?




> She appeared in most of the ST movies and did not get credit either, I
> thought it was just something for the trekkers to keep an eye out for.
> ta
I am, Janice Rand is listed in ST:TMP credits.  Kirk comforts Rand after a
transporter accident killed two crew members who were beaming aboard.  After
that they no longer gave Rand a credit. (no pun)
From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Star Trek vs Real Life
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 15:45:46 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug13.163925.23130@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
  <1992Aug14.174056.14582@bnlux1.bnl.gov>

>"C'mon, Gary, most of these people think that Star Trek is a
>documentary."   - Colin McRoberts
>
>--

Here in the San Francisco Bay Area we have a military base known as The 
Presidio, it is a gorgeous piece of land and The Presidio is on the 
closure list of military installations.

Because of the Presidio's enviromental value (would make a wonderful state
park) and its commercial value (would make a wonderful planned community of
multi-million dollar homes) many letters to the editor and radio talk 
shows spend time debating the fate of the Presidio.  I have often come VERY 
close to calling one of these talk shows and telling them that it is a well
known fact that the Presidio is the future home of Star Fleet Command so
the debate is pointless... The Presidio will stay in Government hands!!

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Schwartzenneger in STTNG??
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:19:17 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

I saw this on WPIX New York news tonight.  Apparently, Arnold
Schwartzenneger is a Star Trek fan and will be appearing in an episode
of TNG this season as an alien captain.


-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
"I want to be Robin to Bush's Batman."  Dan Quayle
Quick!  Notify DC.  I think it's time for another 900 number poll.
"We are enjoying a sluggish economy & not enjoying it very much."  --Bush
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's mistake
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:53:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug13.163925.23130@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) writes:

> Personally, I think Picard was having severe doubts about his sexuality.
> These doubts led him to late night romps through campus in a slinky
> evening gown singing "I gotta be me" at the top of his lungs.  His
> friend Boothbe managed to talk him out of it and seek counseling.

This may have some merit.  Remember when Boothby said "What happened to
your hair!?" and Picard just ignored the question?  He didn't want to admit
that the "treatments" that he was forced to undergo for his "problem" (or
"THE MISTAKE") caused his hair to fall out.

If Picard just suffered from ordinary baldness, Beverly Crusher would have
used some 24th century technique to help poor Jean-Luc.  No, Picard's
baldness must come from some sinister cause that will be explained in an
episode called "THE MISTAKE".

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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Re: The watch in Time's arrow
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:51:33 GMT

In article <6154@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.173944.13053@unixg.ubc.ca> dkirkby@heart.ubc.ca (Don  
>Kirkby) writes:
>> I just downloaded a frame grab of the watch they found in the cave 
>> under San Fran in Time's Arrow.  I think it says:
>> 
>> To S.L.C.
>> With Love
>> 30 November
>> 1889
>> 
>> I believe that Mark Twain's full name was Samuel Longhorn Clemens, and
>> Data was transported back to the 1890s.  Mark Twain also looked at his
>> pocket watch several times during the show.  This would lead me to conclude
>> that the watch they found in the 24th century under San Francisco belonged
>> to Mark Twain.
>
 stuff deleted ..

> Perhaps Twain helped Data in removing his head in
>the cave and left his watch there as a clue for the future Enterprise crew
>who would find it later.  Hmmmm.......
>--
>judson@watserv.ucr.edu

That is a good thought!  I'm going to have to go back and rewatch my tape
of the episode.  I can see it now, Data and Samuel Clemens become good friends,
Data somehow gets beheaded, Picard brings Data's body back, and Bev. 
reconnects him.  S. Clemens, having learned from Data what transpired in
the future left Data's head in the cave, and as a momento, left his watch
for Data.  Hmmm...... it seems like that would violate some time law or
something, having two Data's heads in the same place, but only one attached.
But then again, that is not my forte so I don't know.  But it does bring 
up a question, why did they not just hook up Data's head to Data's head
( follow that? ) and download what happened?  Besides the obvious ( they
need a storyline) that is.

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER ON TNG!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:49:13 GMT

kellyfj@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.195429.7054@ac.dal.ca>, novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
> > You're talking about Dr. Crusher? Give me a break! I say that it's the one, 
> > the only Counselor Deanna Troi! Check out how she never wears the uniform!
> > But one question, why doesn't she wear the boots?
> 
> How come no-one mentions Kheylar (Suzie Plackson)?
> 
> Was she cute as a half-Klingon half-human or what?  :-)
> 
> It was nice to see a woman who didn't take any crap especially not from worf!
> Unlike the cringing Bev Crusher and Deanna Troi. ;-)
> Why do most ST women crew members have to be given such weak characters? Tasha
> was a start but then they killed her off. 
> 
> Is feminism dead in the 24th Century?
>******************************************************************************
 Hey, since we're talking about hot women on TNG and guest stars, what about
the episode "Angel One" and that blond gal that Riker was "getting to know"?
Now, she was very beautiful, yet vicious, in her own way.  I forget her name
right now, but those of you who have it on tape, watch it and you decide.

-- 
|Jeffrey S. Jo                  |		U.S.S. Enterprise              |
|Computer Operations		| Galaxy Class - Starfleet Registry NCC-1701-D |
|University of Nebraska at Omaha|        Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars     |
|tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu        |             Launched Stardate 40759.5        |
From: hooverb@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Bruce Hoover,Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season Premier
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:35:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Originator: hooverb@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

From article <2@freddyk.uucp>, by Edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Ed Langenback):
> does anyone know when the season premier of ST:TNG will air?


Yes 

  

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From: dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J. McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Organization: Architecture & Software Technology Group, Intel, Santa Clara CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:37:35 GMT

Jonathan Sheir (jxs52@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
> I just recently found out from a reliable source that Geordi will be killed
> in the premiere in an attempt to save Data's life.  LeVar Burton wished to
> leave and the writers thought it would be a good way to send him off 


	Yeah, right.



--
D. J. McCarthy <dmccart@gomez.intel.com>
"Lee, when you kill a president, it isn't murder. Murder is a tawdry little
 crime.... shopkeepers get murdered. But when a president kets killed, when
 Julius Caesar got killed -- he was *assassinated*.   --Booth, from "Assassins"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: blanche@diana.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:21:15 GMT


I would demand that spoilers be put in the header, also. But more important,
I question the reliable source and this statement. There has been NO comment
about this on CompuServe. I tend to put more reliability on "rumors" and
confirmations there as opposed to here, since a number of the production staff
are on CI$. But, we'll see in a month or so...


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere-- Geordi Dies!!!
Originator: jawiles@c00114-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:39:49 GMT


Two Things:

     1> Isn't this supposed to be a *filtered* newsgroup where outrageous stuff
        like "Trekkies get a life","Star Trek SUCKS","Season Premiere-- Geordi
        Dies!!!" gets axed??  Wake up, fellas!! The Title alone should have
        rung a bell somewhere!!!

     2> To anyone whose enjoyment of the Premiere MAY have been ruined by this
        posting, you have only yourself to blame for believing this obvious
        attempt by some fruitcake to peeve a bunch of trekkers!!

my 2c              ---------- Jerry A. Wiles, Jr.
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: OFFICIAL INFORMATION - SEASON 6 AND DS9  !SPOILERS*!
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:34:36 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of Virginia

Those of us who attended a Creation Con in Minneapolis today with Marina
Sirtis were treated to some spoiler information on the first few episodes
of Season 6 and on DS9.

So, let's warn people off......

SPOILERS!


I'm not kidding......





First, info on Season Six straight from Marina Sirtis' mouth on the
first four episodes of the new season:

"Time's Arrow II"  
By the way she speaks of it, prepare to be disappointed, as the thing is
still very confused even after Part II is finished she says.

Episode Two:
Features the return of Lieutenant Reginald Barclay played again by Dwight
Schultz.   This time he has a neurosis about transporters; i.e. he is
terrified to use them and he seeks Troi's help to cure it.

She names Episode Three but I can't remember what it was now, oh well,
it is a heavy-duty Troi episode in which Marina gets aged and is thus
required to wear heavy make-up, giving Marina a new-found respect for
Michael Dorn and his make-up.
And in this episode, Troi *dies*...................

Episode Four:
Guest star is James Doohan as Scotty, and he is indeed picked up in the
transporter having been held in accidental stasis for over 75 years.
He is still alive and in their time frame at the end allowing him to do
further guest shots on this show or on DS9.

These four episodes are "in the can."  Whether they will be transmitted in
exactly this order is another question though.....


Not too much on DS9 we didn't already know....
The casting is almost finalized, and an African-American "well known to
television viewers" has been cast as Commander Sisko.  At present, we
still don't know any names of people on this series, but they (those
people) all know who they are, with the exception of the "attractive
28-year-old female host for the Trill character," yet to be finalized.
Ensign Ro will NOT be in this series, her character has been replaced by
a B'Joran military Major, still female though.

The sets are pretty much built, and Marina says the DS9 sets make the
Enterprise sets look like a ToyLand......

Once the Trill is cast, filming can commence in just a couple of weeks now....


and that;s the freshest news from the Paramount Lot from the mouth of 
Marina Sirtis.


					Steve