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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Hard Drives for Apple IIGS
Originator: usenet@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:10:32 GMT
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DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC (gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu) wrote:
: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
: : 40 megs is WAY too small, especially when you get into doing more with your GS..
: 
:      What do you mean.  What do you call doing more stuff.  I have 20 megs
: assigned to my PC Transporter, ORCA/M, ORCA/C, System 6.0, All the fonts
: you could ever need, games my kid plays, Appleworks GS, Appleworks, and the
: list continues.....   All I have is a 52 meg drive and I have 8 megs free.
: Yah, if you never clean up your drive of stuff you never need it may get
: full but that's about it.  Of course, I know there are alot of people that
: cannot do without their 20 meg drives.  I think you can sit pretty
: (espectially if you are low on funds ) at 40 megs.
--
Actually, I run a BBS, so I keep all my archives, and that may be a problem...

If you had ran a BBS, you would see all you needed to survive would be about a
lot more that 50 megs... You would probably need alot more... If you really did
use your PCT, you could take up a lot of space, and with 20 disks of fonts, you
begin to need more... After all your System INITS, DAs, FXs, and such, you need
at least 100 megs... If you do any heavy DTP work, or anything, you'll need a 
lot more...

52 megs is okay, but would 200 megs be much nicer if you could afford it? ;)

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Roy Barrett... Yep, that's my name...
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Resource Manager
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:12:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721588362

Re: Compressing resource forks

Actually, a friend of mine recently noticed that a newly Rezzed resource
fork actually _does_ get smaller when you optimize it using Foundation!

- Eric S.

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InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: What is Dhrystone??
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 22:40:00 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Excuse me for being ignorant, but what is Dhrystone?
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: anthony@seas.smu.edu (Richard Anthony)
Subject: Re: the Demise of DeskTracker...
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:19:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.164815.11897@ifi.unizh.ch> gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (gudat henrik) writes:
>In article <RWIFALL.92Nov1180304@dante.nmsu.edu> rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall) writes:
>>I regret to inform all of you that there will be no future versions of
>>the DeskTracker finderextension (for playing soundsmith music)  In an
>>attempt to rile me, Ian Schmidt has instructed me that I may no longer
>>distribute his soundsmith playing code in my DeskTracker Fext..
>>	I will continue to develop DT for my own use so it truely is
>>your loss... I am sorry but there is nothing that I can do about it..
>>
>>					Richard...
>>My usenet feed is about 3 days behind so I will be slow in answereing
>>any questions or comments about this..
>>
>>flames to irsman@iastate.edu
>>
>>--
>
>Hey, one moment! You can have my source code!
>
>It's not great and needs some work (for the effects, and the load
>routine could stand imporvement) but note
>
>THAT WE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT IAN'S SOURCE CODE.
>
>Mail your snail mail address and i'll turbo-boost the code.
>
>If everybody had this attitude, you could count the days of the IIGS.
>
>henrik
>


With enough users like you henrik, i DONT think we can count
the days for the gs, because they will be endless!
I hope Richard takes you up on your offer.  and i am sure Ian has
his reasons for why he wont let richard use the code.
on behalf on one desktracker user, i thank you for offering your
code.

>-- 
>Bright Software CH   gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch   Bright Software USA
>P.O. Box 18          any demo: US$3.00              P.O. Box 120
>4153 Reinach 2       info on GSymbolix, ShadowDial, Exeter, ME 04435-0120
>Switzerland          Gate, SpaceFox, Mandelbrot     U.S.A.


Jim C

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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: .tar, .zoo, .lzh, etc....
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:11:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721588264

I believe that tar was included on the GNO 1.0 Utilities disk, actually.
(Correct me if I'm wrong).

- Eric S.

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FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
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From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: Old games --> DOS 3.3 --> DOS 3.3 Launcher on GS
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:14:01 GMT

re: Airheart and Broderbund 18 sector format

John,
  Could you describe in detail how to make disk images from an 18-sector
original? Wings of Fury, another great game, also uses this format.
 
Thanks,
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Digitizing in color??
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 18:04:28 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

When I worked at Egghead, I remember seeing a device which is like an
easle with a frame to hold a hand held scanner. It came bundled with
software which would convert a grey-scale scanner to a color scanner.
All one would have to do  is put a color picture under the scanner,
pass it over the picture three times and the software would generate
a color picture. Of course this was only availible for IBM compatible
computers. What I'd like to know is if this same technology could
work on a GS. I've already got a Quickie scanner and it does an
excellent job in scanning grey scale, but to color a picture in a
paint program requires a big effort.
 
Also I remember seeing an ad somewhere that Thunderware's Lightning
Scan hand held scanner is availible for a Mac. As I understand, this
should be the exact same scanner head as the GS version which is the
same as the Quickie scanner. What I'd like to know is can Thunderware
sell just the software and the interface for the Mac? I'd like to use
my Quickie on my Mac sometimes, but now I just scan pictures on my GS
and convert them to a GIF format before I throw it onto the Mac.
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: Editors
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:15:54 GMT

n <9231715.22714@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Robert Mueller writes:
>I'm looking for peoples comments on editors (source code type).

I use the Prizm editor for doing all of my code.  I quit prizm in order
to do compiling and linking.  I've got a 9 MHz Zipped GS w/4 MB of
RAM.  The windows scroll very fast, and you can have lots of files open
at the same time.   Plus, you can split each window into two parts to
allow for file comparison and easy cut and past operations.

Plus, for smaller programs you can actually compile and execute from
within Prizm.  Even graphical output can be displayed from within a
window.

I have had problems with programs locking up, and then being unable
to exit from Prizm.  As a result, I've taken to simply quitting 
Prizm, and returning to the text shell to do compiles.  It's not as
good as it could be, but it's no worse that using a text based
editor.

emacs?  You might as well shoot yourself (talk about user unfriendly).

[MGM]
From: flowney@GC3.GAC.PEACHNET.EDU (Frank Lowney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AE Fastmath
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:19:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have an AE fastmath card that served quite well to speed up a statistics
program written in Applesoft BASIC (AppStats).  This was accomplished by a
set of Ampersand commands that AE developed and shipped with the product. 
I'd like to extend the functionality of this math coprocessor to other,
newer areas of my computing activities like HyperCard GS, AppleWorks 3.0
and AppleWorks GS (the spreadsheets particularly).

I have phoned and written AE on several occasions about this.  They have no
plans to develop any more software tools for this card.  Sooooo, I was
wondering if anyone out there has (1) figured out what would solve this
problem in the most elegant (cheap, good & fast) way and (2) actually
effected a solution.

Not having the talent to program system extensions, XCMDs and the like, I
am at a lost to even identify what it would take to have the power of this
math coprocessor available to the programs I use.  Any help will be greatly
appreciated.
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The Regional Teacher Education Center at Georgia College
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From: achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Re: Editors
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:53:29 GMT

Robert Mueller writes

> I'm looking for peoples comments on editors (source code type).

> Can anyone recommend a decent editor? The orca editor is a
> disgrace, slow and only one file at a time (I've still only
> got orca 1.2) and i've heard that the orca 2.0 editor is even
> slower. Prism crashes in 30 seconds. I've tried Rose
> and it is nice and fast, the ability to work on 2 files at
> is nice, but I'm looking for something that

> Anyone got any recommendations?

MicroEmacs was just posted to cba2.  Get that.  It will work under
both GNO and Orca.  Use it...learn to live it...love it.  That is
probably the best editor that we have available right now.  I'd use
it if I were you.  It takes a bit to get used to EMACS in general, but
once you do, it's quite a nice editor.  USE IT!

> Rob

Amrit

> /--------------------------------------------------------------------\
> | Robert Mueller - robm@ecr.mu.oz.au  |   First year Sci/Eng student |
> | Ask me about Desktop Utilities 3.3! |   University of Melbourne    |
> \--------------------------------------------------------------------/

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From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Subject: Re: Old games --> DOS 3.3 --> DOS 3.3 Launcher on GS
Reply-To: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:47:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.084024.21269@zip.eecs.umich.edu> grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>Recently I have been playing a little with John MacLean's great little
>program "DOS 3.3 Launcher".  Unfortunatly, all of the stuff I am trying
>to convert to it does NOT seem to be DOS 3.3.
>
>Most of this stuff is old games that would be great fun if I could just
>luanch them from GS/OS and play them for a bit, then quit back to GS/OS
>without re-booting.  Things like Arcticfox, Alternate Reality, Seven Cities
>of Gold, Airheart, Lode Runner, and others...
>
>Many of these seem to be ALMOST a correct DOS 3.3, but have some sort
>of difference that makes them unreadable as DOS 3.3.   Copy II+ can make
>copies of the disks themselves (sometimes even remove the protection)
>but they still seem to be wierd variants to normal DOS 3.3.
>
>Does anybody have a method for turning these into normal DOS 3.3 images?
>Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__

Certainly not automatically.
I have both Lode Runner (including chapionship) and Airheart on my hard disk
(and yes, I own the original software) as files which I can quit from back
to the finder.
From memory I think Lode Runner should convert after removal of protection
via Copy II+.
However, Airheart uses REALLY complex protection (18 sectors, bit insert
routines etc), and was several days work to make it installable.
Please don't ask me for a "copy" - I don't do that.

Its possible that some of the other games mentioned (eg: Articfox, Alternate
Reality, Seven Cities of Gold) are just standard RWTS disks with a couple
of changes.
Namely:
- Different sector header/checksum/trailers (in which case Copy II+ will
be able to remove the protection).
- Different sector skewing.

If anyone can confirm that its different sector skewing that is causing the
problem for any of these games, I should be able to make DOS 3.3 Launcher
read the skewing table from the original disk.
Any takers?

John MacLean.
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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple Overtakes IBM?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:21:19 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I found this on the ProTERM BBS last night and thought it was kinda
neat:
 
 Subject: Apple Overtakes IBM
    From: JERRY CLINE [#1]
  Posted: 10/26/92 at 11:14:19
  Thread: /CLINE
 
 
 
Apple to outsell IBM, analyst says The Associated Press
 
BOSTON
 
Apple Computer Inc. will overtake International Business Machines in
sales of personal computers this year, an analyst has estimated.
 
Kimball Brown, director of PC hardware research for International
Data Corp., a market-research firm headquartered in Framingham,
Mass., based his estimate on the number of units shipped by each
company during the past several years.
 
In 1990, IBM had 12 .9 percent of the total units shipped worldwide
compared with Apple's 7.2 percent, Brown said.
 
By 1991, the margin had narrowed, with IBM shipping 11.3 percent of
units to Apple's 9.7 percent. That translated to 2.9 million units
for IBM and 2.5 million for Apple.
 
However, in the first nine months of this year, Apple shipped 2.04
million units, compared with IBM's 1.85 million, Brown said.
 
"The year isn't over yet," Brown said. "The question is: Can IBM come
back?"
 
"But even if they did, I think Apple would still come out on top."
 
--
Herbert Fung                    | "Hard work doesn't make miracles,
Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Old games --> DOS 3.3 --> DOS 3.3 Launcher on GS
Summary: Question: Can you make old games into normal DOS 3.3 disks? 
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:40:24 GMT

Recently I have been playing a little with John MacLean's great little
program "DOS 3.3 Launcher".  Unfortunatly, all of the stuff I am trying
to convert to it does NOT seem to be DOS 3.3.

Most of this stuff is old games that would be great fun if I could just
luanch them from GS/OS and play them for a bit, then quit back to GS/OS
without re-booting.  Things like Arcticfox, Alternate Reality, Seven Cities
of Gold, Airheart, Lode Runner, and others...

Many of these seem to be ALMOST a correct DOS 3.3, but have some sort
of difference that makes them unreadable as DOS 3.3.   Copy II+ can make
copies of the disks themselves (sometimes even remove the protection)
but they still seem to be wierd variants to normal DOS 3.3.

Does anybody have a method for turning these into normal DOS 3.3 images?
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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Status of Apple IIGS Ethernet Card?
Originator: usenet@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:42:29 GMT
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


What speed is the 65816 on board? just a normal 2.8mhz 65816? or are these the
High-speed WDC type? It may seem irrelevant, but I'm just wondering.. ;)
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From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: KX-P1123 driver for //GS
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:39:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Nov 08 92 at 20:43:59 (EST)

kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague) writes:
> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>> wrh@PHYSICS.WM.EDU (William Hall) writes:
>>> I believe the Harmonie Epson LQ printer driver will work with a
>>> Panasonic KX-P1123, assuming it supports Epson LQ codes.  The Harmonie
>>> package is from Vitesse, and is available through many mail-order places.
>
>> I use a KX-P1124i which has the same internals but more panel options.
>> The Harmonie Epson LQ does a fine job.
>
> I have the 1124, too, and I just use the Epson driver that came with
> System 6.
> Things print out fine (a little slow I think) but I was just wondering what
> advantage the Epson LQ driver would have, since the regular Epsn driver is
> working for me.
 
The Epson driver that comes with Apple's System software is fine if you only
print straight text (i.e., from AppleWorks Classic, ProTERM, etc.), however,
if you're printing out items from AppleWorks GS using fonts, or anything using
graphics, using the LQ driver from the Harmonie package will allow you a
*much* higher resolution.  I believe that the standard Epson driver uses a
60x60 dpi resolution to work with any Epson.  The Harmonie Epson LQ driver
will allow one to choose anywhere from 60x60 dpi (low resolution, high speed),
or up to 360x360 dpi (lower speed, but much higher resolution).  When you
consider that your average Laserprinter only prints at 300x300 dpi, you get an
idea what an improvement this can give you...  :)
It just depends on how you use your printer, and if you want or need the
better resolution...
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From: rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall)
Subject: Proterm/CTS informaion..
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:46:02 GMT


	I was asked to post this by Brendan, (aka badbunny) so here it
is..

Board 12: 249 of 250
 Subject: New PT3.CODE0 in development
    From: GREG SCHAEFER [#3]
  Posted: 11/11/92 at 13:36:55
  Thread: /SCHAEFER
 
I am currently working on a new version of PT3.CODE0 which will add some new
features and correct some problems. Some things I expect to change:
 
(1) Change the //gs (gs/os) port driver to work around the hardware CTS problem
identified by Brendan Hoar. This should alleviate any need to make any hardware
modifications to your computer.
 
(2) Fix a problem with unattended answering with the suprafaxmodem v32bis.
 
(3) Add a Generic Fixed Speed modem driver. This will just by the OKI (rts/cts)
with a different init string.
 
(4) Change the mnp drivers so that the port lock starts at 9600 instead of
19200.
 
(5) Include the MNP6 driver in the pt3.code0 file.
 
(6) Develop a modem driver for the high-speed multitech modems. This driver
will not be part of the code0 file, but will be available as a seperate PTM
file.
 
There will be some other misc changes as well. I expect this new file to be
available in about 2 weeks. I will post complete information when it becomes
available.
 
Greg Schaefer @ InSync Software, Inc.
Board 12: 250 of 250
 Subject: Mistake in an earlier post
    From: GREG SCHAEFER [#3]
  Posted: 11/11/92 at 14:51:03
  Thread: /SCHAEFER
 
I had said in an earlier post that the Generic MNP Driver only locked the port
at rates of 19200+ and that I would see about changing this to 9600+. I am
incorrect. In looking at the drivers, I find that they lock the port starting
at 9600, not 19200. I will update my documentation in this regard.

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From: ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer)
Subject: Re: Applelink gateway?
Cc: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:59:56 GMT

In article <DJw4TB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
(Herbert Fung) writes:
>Can someone post the gateway to AppleLink?
>Thanks.

username@applelink.apple.com

Dave
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