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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Organization: Net.Gypsy/ROM
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:12:01 GMT

In article <DANIEL.92Nov19121924@algol.clsi.COM> daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay) writes:
>> Mine's for sale...and it's a four-posted one.  Of course you'll have to wait
>> till after the boink!
>> 
>> Liz Loquacious
>
>You know, I have this image in my mind of four net.posters standing at the
>corners of the bed holding a canopy over Allisson.

With an image like that I want dancing girls and a harem slave boy to fan
me from getting to hot <seductive licking of lips> ... oh, sorry ... can
I pick the posters ....

Allisson

--- Well, everyone's entitled to some idle fantasy .... I like the idea
ofa 9 poster bed ....-- 
allisson@turing.toronto.edu                            H. Allisson Roome
"Kindness is the beginning and end of the Law" - Hebrew Proverb

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:33:39 GMT

In article <25766@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov8150437@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>>   Well, check out the content of the virtually all-female form of (usually)
>>   soft-core pornography known as "Romance Novels": written for women,
>>   by women.

>Important point #1:  what is the most frequently occurring gender of the
>people who control film studios and publishing houses?  

I believe that most of the romance editors (the people who actually
decide which books to buy for the romance lines) are female.

>Important point #2:  In writing seminars, I have frequently been told that
>men often write these stories and pseudonymify with women's names.

Romance books with men's names don't sell.  Therefore, all men who
want to sell romance use women's names.  Women write the majority of
romance novels (otherwise the statement made in the writing seminars
would have been different).

>Important point #3:  Women act in porn films, this does not mean that violence
>in pornography is a "fantasy shared by women and men".  Likewise, because women
>sell (what men are purchasing for publication for sale to women) these stories
>does not mean that they share the fantasy.  If they did, they'd be lolling about
>waiting for someone to rescue them, eh?

Women buy these books because they enjoy the fantasy.  There are
fantasies that I enjoy that I don't attempt to live out in real life;
I don't expect other people necessarily to attempt to live out theirs.
(I don't expect them not to, either.  They do what they want.  People
are like that.  cf. "First Law of Animal Behavior")

>Important point #4:  There's nothing wrong with having a fantasy about
>someone rescuing you.  The problem is that all too often women (and men)
>come to believe that this is their only option.  

Whose fault is that?

>And they may not be too far wrong if the statistics which say that 40
>percent of homeless people are women escaping violent partners, is true.

The statistics I've seen indicate that far fewer than 40% of homeless
people are women, period.

>We don't take these things seriously because we are humorless castrating
>femanazi dykes, but because their consequences can be measured in human
>suffering and pain, on both sides of the gender line.  

The consequences of which things?  Litmus test:  Do you promote
censorship for political purposes?

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:54:31 GMT
	<1992Nov12.235810.21085@rs6000.bham.ac.uk>
	<1992Nov15.204331.17994@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
	<1992Nov16.233917.29267@netcom.com>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: barry@netcom.com's message of 16 Nov 92 23:39:17 GMT


Spidey here, a little unnerverd by the suit/tie vs. jeans/t-shirt
debate...


In article <1992Nov16.233917.29267@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:

   In article <1992Nov15.204331.17994@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
   >Try wearing your "Cure" t-shirt to work some time with the
   >worn-through-at-the-knees blue jeans and see how long you stay at your
   >RealWorld job, assuming that they hire you in the first place.

I'll admit that gary is a little off-base here...

	   Keep telling yourself that, monkey-boy, and maybe the noose
   around your neck will rankle less. The monkey suits are the uniform
   of the salesdroids and administrators; I think of it as their punishment
   for leading a fundamentally useless existence :-).

But this drivel...
Deep breath.  Another deep breath. 
Aww, I tried to resist.

FLAME MODE ON!

I am neither a "salesdroid" nor an "administrator" -- I am a hard
working software designer and programmer.  Most would be hard pressed
to classify my existence as useless. For many of us, if there weren't
"salesdroids" out there selling our products then we would be out of a
job!  No sales, no income.  No income, no salary.  No salary, no job.
Period. End of story.

I don't believe in sucking up.  Makes you look like a fool.  What you
wear is a superficial way of showing up as an individual.  True
individuality is shown by your actions and the beliefs which lead to
those actions.  These are the attributes which make a difference in
whether you are remembered after you die as a great human being, or
just another conformist wimp.  Remember: Rev.  Martin Luther King Jr.
was wearing a suit the day he was killed -- and he _certainly_ was no
conformist.

About the investment industry, Kayembee, where do you think the
company you work for got the capital to start up?  Or if you work at a
research institution, think about where a lot of your research money
comes from.  Right.  Corporate america.  The corporations which sell
bonds (in other words, borrow money) from investment banks such as the
one I work for.  The things we do here help to make the things you do
possible.  

Finally, about respect, every living thing is due respect.  When I
treat someone with respect, I find that 99% of the time I receive
respect in return.  A person is no less worthy of respect because they
have an occupation which you find uninteresting.  It is interesting to
them; otherwise they would not pursue it.

FLAME MODE off...

Whew.  I fell much better now.

Spidey!!!


--
 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:07:02 GMT

In article 92Nov17140758@lion.bear.com, jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov17.080151.9597@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) writes:

>>   Non-conformity is the only policy.
>
>Yup. Sounds like there a lot of people who are conformists in their
>anti-suit/tie beliefs...

Strange thing about nonconformity. It makes you a trendsetter.
Did you see 'flying blind' last Sunday? 

Alicia wears these cool dresses with all kinds of sexy frills.
She designs them herself. When faced with the Opportunity to
design dresses in Milano, She passed it up because all the women in
the club were wearing her dresses. Immitators are conformists *ugh*

Being a geologist, I got into the habit of wearing a felt hat. It
serves the purpose of eliminating sunstroke in the direct rays of
sub-arctic summers. My first one was an Austrian mountain climber's 
hat complete with feathers and pins. This would not work here because
the brim is not wide enough to keep the BC winter rain out of my face.

I went and bought a more appropriate felt hat while everyone else
was wearing baseball caps(which look stupid on me). I started wearing
my hat on campus in September. Mine was the only felt hat in a sea of 
baseball caps. Now they are wearing baseball caps less frequently.

About a month ago, guys started wearing hats like mine(same color when
there is a large selection of colors for felt hats). This is a major drag.
If I was to buy a 1940's style FEDORA, what would happen? Am I paranoid?

dreas
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Suggestions needed....
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:22:41 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: MICH@UNB.CA's message of 19 Nov 92 19:56:37 GMT

In article <19NOV92.17219152.0117@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> MICH@UNB.CA (MICH) writes:

   In article <1992Nov18.080425.19672@rdg.dec.com> veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
   >How do you stop loving someone you see almost every day and who hasn't done
   >anything wrong?????  I don't want to stop loving him... I don't want to say
   >a final goodbye to him because even based on friendship alone, he's the
   >best thing that's ever happened to me... I don't want to lose our
   >friendship or our closeness but I don't know how to stop the deeper
   >feelings from seeping in and making me sad that we don't have more....

					    ...It almost sounds a bit
    manipulative. I mean, if he is such a good friend why is he so
    unaware of the unhappiness he is causing you?.

Probably because he can't read yer mind!!!  Tell 'im how you feel!!!

Spidey!!!

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 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:42:24 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Nov21.121447.29185@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> In article <lgqe6pINNhs8@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov20.000314.19764@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> >
> >> Even if there is a minimum
> >> balance required, I can't see that as a particularly important factor--I've
> >> been known to let my checking account balance creep up to $15,000+ before
> >> getting around to transferring the money elsewhere. 
> >
> >Your sweetsie-pie persona is starting to slip, Tryg baby.  You only said
> >this to be a shit and so you could see all the unworthies reading this 
> >group whimper.
> 
> Now would I do a thing like that?  (And who reading this group is unworthy?)
> Besides, wimpering isn't one of my turn-ons.

But apparantly, reminding everyone of how rich/romantically successful/
muscular/smart you are is a turn on.

Someone said that they had a problem with keeping a minimum of $1500 in a 
bank account.  You say, "gosh, why is that a problem?  I have $15,000 in
mine all the time."  As in "you mean there are starving people in the 
streets?  I don't think that's important because I just had this huge
chocolate binge."  Or, "If there isn't enough bread, then let them
eat cake."

In other words, it was rude and insensitive.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: QQQCLC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:02:59 GMT

In article <!#kq7rr@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>The baby-bust, generation X people are laughing at you, Kenn:
>In article <1992Nov16.233917.29267@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>	"Older folks"? GMAFB. Us boomers were the ones who brought faded
>>denim out of the farms and factories, and into fashion.
>
>'Us boomers'? Is this the same fashion 'class' that brought us Dockers and
>Pastels? I've got one word for you uptight boomers: Polyester. Remember it?
>You ought to, you brought >that< crap into style. :)

	I'm sure you're wrong, I never saw it, you must be crazy and,
*LOOK*, what's that behind you?!

<Kenn exits, pursued by a bear wearing polyester>

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Seriousness.
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:46:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.020712.25404@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>My definition of seriousness in a relationship is that things
>are getting serious when both partners agree to move in together.

By the time the partners are deciding to live together, things are
already serious.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Subject: My name is worse than yours (was: Re: What is attractive to women?)
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:34:09 GMT

atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas) writes:

>In article 92Nov22123125@candidus.ma30.bull.com, drg@candidus.ma30.bull.com (Daniel R. Guilderson) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov22.151315.4882@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>>
>>   ] >all "Robert"s liked to be called "Bob"
>>
>>   ] consensus has decreed that all Elizabeths be called 'Liz'.  
>>
>>   [all Dianas]
>>   getting called "Princess Di"
>>
>>All Ezekials are called "Zeke"
>>All Philips are called "Phil the pill"
>>All Patricias are called "Patty cakes" or "Peppermint Patty"
>>
>>All Daniels are called one of these
>>"Dan the man"
>>"Book 'em Danno"
>>"Oh Danny boy the pipes are ..."

>Oh no! You think you got it bad?
>I get called things like "Raggedy" Andy, "Randy" Andy, "Handy" Andy, and 
>Andy "Panda." When my legal name's in print, "Is there more than one 
>'Andrea' here today?"
>                                        /      ^
>A couple of years ago, somebody said, "He, 'dreas, Comment ca va?" 
>[too bad this keyboard isn't rigged for French. :+(]       S
>                                                           
>He sympathized with me because his name was "Marie-Louis."
>dreas

	Try explaining how to pronounce "Cal" to your new classmates in
elementary school. It inevitably comes out "Cow", which is a source of
endless fun and amusement to some. "Cow", "Cow Patty", "Cow Lot" (my last
name is Lott), etc.

	Cal is also fun for junior high: "Cal-ifornia", "Cal-Can", "How
now Brown Cow."

	Now that I am supposedly more mature, though, I have come to
appreciate having a less common name.

					-Cal (nee Calvin Jesse Lott)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 20:51:38 CST
From: <U53644@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
 <Nov.11.16.57.43.1992.5519@net.bio.net> <1992Nov12.131247.13092@netcom.com>
 <1992Nov16.192844.1197@netcom.com>

Is this thread still running ? Well, I think that I have ONE answer to my own
question. Try to find an apartment building with a favorable ratio (for you),
in which the women come from a background similar to or compatible with yours.
I sort of fell into one looking for a quiet place to live (needed for study),
and found a place largely populated by other graduate students, most of them
grew up in the suburbs like me. A very easy, very relaxed place to meet people.
It had a lobby with seating, which may sound like a small thing, but isn't -
just sitting down and studying there is a great way to meet people. The very
fact that that I'm a familiar face in the building removes much of the fear
factor from dating for the woman apparently (I can't do something unpleasant
and simply disappear off into the night). Also, the initial meeting is in a non
dating context (talking to one of your neighbors), removing much of the awkward
-ness. The move certainly worked for me.

Important points : Look for buildings with stable populations. A building full
                   of transients will have a shortage of established
                   relationships, and the people there won't be looking for
                   them. It makes for a strained social atmosphere. A stable
                   population probably means that these people get along with
                   and like each other. Get to know one, and he'll (or she'll)
                   introduce you to his or here friends.

                   Unless you share the rather cynical attitude toward relation
                   -ships expressed in some circles, avoid "yuppie" areas like
                   the plague. Finding them is no problem : if you can't talk
                   to your prospective neighbors without screaming, if you feel
                   like you've walked into the corporate offices in "Robocop",
                   you're in one. Generally, the "fashionable" neighborhoods
                   near the nightspots. Lincoln Park and Lakeview in Chicago
                   (but NOT the gold coast, oddly enough, which is actually a
                   rather nice place to live). Just pay attention to how people
                   respond to each other and to you, and keep looking. A nasty
                   atmosphere will make itself felt in all social dealings.


Well, that was simple enough. Just meet them at home, where they feel
comfortable.

                                                     Joe Dunphy

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevinc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (kevin.j.coulter)
Subject: Re: These religious social activities
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:46:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.022101.26831@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
>It seems that my Mom found out about a Catholic mass party for all singles and
>young adults.  I never been to one of these type of get togethers so I'm 
>writing to you about advice.  What age would mostly show up?  I'm 24, and I'm
>not interested in someone in her forties.  

Well, at least in Chicago, this is what we've got: run by the
Archdiocese of Chicago is something called the Young Adult Ministry
office, which has a priest and a full-time lay person running it. They
have a mailing list of over 17,000 names. Every year they run several
events, the biggest being something called Theology on Tap. Speakers go
to different parishes around the Archdiocese once a week for 4 weeks
talking about various topics: how to make good decisions in the 90s, etc
etc. Vast majority is not real deep religious stuff. Anyways it ends
with a Mass at Holy Name Cathedral (the big one in Chicago) celebrated
by the Cardinal. Then there's the party afterwards at the Cardinal's
residence. Its pretty good. BTW: I met my last long term (3+ years) SO
at ToT.     The YAM office also sponsors many other events throughout
the year, including one I attended this past Sunday. Was just a Mass and
a short talk afterwards, but was very good.   And you get to meet
people.

On top of this, there are many "singles" groups in the Archdiocese.
These are like any singles group with a wide range of ages, but most of
them (especially that say "young adult") are 20's and 30's. 

With the YAM stuff and the other things, a lot of them have been going
for 10 or more years, so whats happening is the people that were in it
when they were 25 are now 35, the 35 are 45. But there's always "fresh
blood" coming in....  

There have been SEVERAL marriages that have come out of such
activities... in fact, 2 of the last 3 weddings I've been at have been
such a result....


			Kevin

------
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 Naperville, IL
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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why do women
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:32:31 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>       Back when  I was but a mere lurker,  there was a (presumably)
>female poster who would make long postings on a similar topic,  except
>in her case, it went more like:
>
>       Why is it all men kidnap  women, assault them, beat them
>senseless, force them  to read  'Atlas Shrugged', then fling them
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to painful deaths at the bottom of  Shaft 14 in the 'Whoops, Apocalypse'
>coalmine  in Blacklung, NS?  Why?  Hah? Gwan, tell  me  why?

Because we're all sadistic Objectivists?
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:08:43 GMT

In article <74602@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>>Also, they can be removed from the feet quickly enough to make a dandy and
>>very deadly weapon.
>
>Oh, in real life? Not just in the movies?

The correct technique is to grip the shoe from the top at the heel end, not
the toe end.  It's not a hammer.  Human skulls are thin enough although a
spike heel can also be driven through an eye.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Xref: sparky soc.singles:30852 hsv.general:3663
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,hsv.general
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:03:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Nov16.210331.15397
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <14NOV199214261364@jetson.uh.edu> citer@jetson.uh.edu (Sanders, Raymond L.) writes:
>to leave graciously ("purchased") it is deemed voluntary.  No unemployment,
>no statistic.  There are several hundred thousand like me who will not
>be counted until we resume employment with the appropriate company (ie
>self-employed does not count).  My options, other than leaving, were minimal
>although there was an offer to uproot and move from the sunbelt to the icebelt
>leaving family and friends behind.  I'm lucky in that I have medical benefits
>until I formally retire next year.  I'm thankful for what I have, but no
>matter how much someone told me the recession was over, I have no money to
>spend until I have a new job.

also, people out of work long enough that there unemployment benefits run
out are not counted either!  I work, but my increases have not seen the
35% increase of the wealthy, infact the "tricle-on" effect is well named!
My increases do NOT keep up with inflation, I am a mear peon!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Top 9 things...
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:02:26 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov23102359@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.083427.748@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:

>	[quoted from someone else]

>   >9. Sorry, I only like to date guys who like to beat the sh*t out of me and
>   >     treat me like dirt.
>
>I can no longer resist.  Isn't the obvious answer "okay, I can do that"?

Yes, but can you *like* doing that?

How about: If you turn me down, I'll beat the shit out of you.
(Sometimes you just can't win.)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com