HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT TeX and Postscript (was Re: Neuron (really networking NeXT vs. Mac))
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:25:39 GMT
Reply-To: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science

In article <1992Apr10.061938.11118@utstat.uucp>, philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>I indicated using Postscript fonts with NeXT TeX is not as easy as
>using them with Textures. 

It's as easy as snarfing Rokicki's upgrades to dvips and texview from
labrea.stanford.edu and installing them. They even use the New Font
Selection Scheme. I don't know beans about Textures, but I do know that
I like free upgrades by ftp. I hope the newer versions are incorporated
into NS 3.0.

--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Rokicki for President!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: SEF did it again (RTF) also Netrek update!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 03:29:57 GMT


In article <1992Apr11.022557.4653@kithrup.COM>
sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) writes:

Uh-oh ...

>In article <1992Apr11.015816.15932@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
>mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu writes:

>Proof positive that going to a decent university does not
>imply maturity.

An excellent point that could have been made with no loss of
moral suasion without quoting his entire article.

The one-line addition at the bottom of the 80-line quote
probably accounts for ten times the wasted file space and
transmission expense of all the world's RTFs together.
The latter is your bug-bear; the former is mine.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
From: dan@ennex3.eng.utsa.edu (Dan Shelton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mathematica Problems
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:26:44 GMT
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Apr8.130748.4323@email.tuwien.ac.at>  
root@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Purgathofer) writes:
> We have a copy of Mathematica and we cant bring it to work. 
> 
> Version is
> "NeXT Release 2.1
> Mathematica 2.0
> Front End Version 2.0
> June 1991"
> 
> It just doesnt work. You type in a formula (eg. sin(x)) and it starts  
working,  
> rotating the little Harddisk-Cursor and never coming back. We are quite  
trained  
> in using Mathematica on a Mac, and we tried to make it just the way we  
used to.
> 
> Are there known problems of certain versions? Is it wrong installed? Do  
i have  
> to change some settings?
> 
> Thanx in advance
> ==============================================
> Peter Purgathofer (i didn t vote for him)
> Institut f. Gestaltungs- und Wirkungsforschung
> Techn. University Vienna / Computer Science
> purgi@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at
> ==============================================
> "ROMANUS EUNT DOMUM" (Brian)

With the Mathematica 2.0 you have to include the path to the Mathematica  
kernel in your .cshrc file.  e.g. if Mathematica is in /LocalApps, path is  
/LocalApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel.  If you don't include the path, the  
cursor will continue to spin.

Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: OSF/1 for NeXT?
Originator: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: pierce@cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:33:40 GMT

Is there available a version of the OSF/1 operating system
for the NeXT?

-- Brad

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton)
Subject: Re: Microphone interference
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:00:27 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

	I just ordered a stenographer headset mic that claims to have
a noise cancelling element.  A noise-cancelling mic is usually
defined as two discrete mic elements place as physically close
together as possible, with there outputs 180 degress out of phase
with each other.  Neat huh?  Everything more than a few inches (or less)

from the elements cancels itself out.  The mlic is oriented so your
voice hits one element much more than the other.

	I imagine it would help cut out 60hz noise as well (exactly
like a humbucking guitar pickup).

			I'll tell you chaps how it works out.


					Ken

-- 
Ken Morton			Breath of Fresh Air Music Productions
kmorton@panix.com
Send me NeXTmail!!!  	Black Computers are the NeXTstep in Computing!
From: jozwiak@sp90.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Michael Jozwiak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: IBM 1 gig hd
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:06:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: csrd.1992Apr15.210655.29829
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development

tmiller@roo.caltech.edu (Marylyn E. Miller) writes:

>Has anyone had any luck using the new IBM 1gig hd with the the NeXT. I'm  
>getting a initialization error.

>Thanks Tracy

Since when, and from where, does one inquire about such drives?  How big,
fast, expensive, etc. are they?
 thanks,
john
From: coco@ihcoco.att.com (Felix A. Lugo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:08:19 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, I.L.

In article <1992Apr10.160856.2790@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
| In article <1992Apr9.225405.15278@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@ihcoco.att.com  
| (Felix A. Lugo) writes:
| > 
| > 	I love RTF-NewsGrazer ... Keep-em coming gentry!
| 
| NOT!
| 
| This is not the correct newsgroup for such things, and you
| know it. Please stop trying to provoke a flame war, which
| you will most *surely* do.
| 

	I don't know what you're talking about!  8-)

	What I do know, however, is that a bigoted FEW want to
	DICTATE what other people may or may not do in this newsgroup;
	-- AND I'M SICK OF IT!  (I should have used RTF for this line).

	c.s.n.MISC:  Hum, it's name sure fits where such postings
		     CAN be made!

| If anyone bothers to announce the results of the vote, I'm
| sure there will be a nice new comp.sys.next.rtf, where
| such neat posts will most *definitely* belong. 
| 

	It certainly doesn't mean RTF posts have to stop in THIS
	newsgroup ...   8^)

| --
| Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
| Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
| New Haven, CT
| nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

---

===========================================================================
Felix A. Lugo

E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
						coco@ihcoco.att.com
     AT&T NeXT User Group			nug@ihcoco.att.com
     HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
===========================================================================
From: bbs@neb.uucp (BBS System)
Subject: Re: Forsale: ND SIMMS
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:32:19 GMT

I also have 4 of them for sale, 80ns.  Have offered them to some
local PS/2 owners for $25.00 a piece.  So far, no takers, but then I
guess I haven't tried that hard. (They are the 1MB SIMMS).
 
Seems strange to ask much more than this, as you can get new 1MB 72-pin
SIMMS for just a little bit more money.  I bought a 2MB 72-pin SIMM for
my brother about two months ago, and paid $95 for it.  Figured that the
smaller 1MB SIMMS now would run $40-$45 new- maybe even less.
 
If anyone is interested, I can be reached at 801-288-0114, or
801-534-3159 (work).
-----
Posted by BBS User: Nevin Pratt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Re: 3.5" Erasible Optical Disk < $10/each
Reply-To: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:12:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.200807.23235@athena.mit.edu> jgshir@athena.mit.edu  
(John G Shirlaw) writes:
> 
> What sort of time scale are we talking about before 3.5" start shipping  
at this
> price?
> 
	According to the news, they should be able to MassProduce it by  
year end, and within one year (depending on the market demand) to reduce  
the cost to < $10/each.

> thanks 
> 
> john.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mfriedel@monolith.rmnug.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NWExpo proceedings
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: mfriedel@monolith.rmnug.org
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

I have received mine (Hardcopy) yesterday. All it is, is photocopies of the  
Concurrence Slides of most of the presentations.

 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
No user serviceable part inside. Warranty void if opened
modified or tampered with. No batteries included.
*
mfriedel@basalt.mines.colorado.edu
mfriedel@monolith.rmNUG.ORG
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:14313 comp.sys.next.programmer:3503
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: WRI 1-800 # & MMA 2.0.4
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:39:38 GMT
Reply-To: chwe@quads.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

About a month or six weeks ago I posted my experience with Wolfram and
Mathematica 2.0.4.5 for the NeXT, which seems to be quite different from the  
recent posts.  I called WRI's regular long distance number, told them that I  
had heard of a "thinner" version of Mma and asked how I could get it.  They  
were very responsive, and I received 2.0.4.5 in five days free of charge.  The  
password I used for my original version worked in the new version.  On my 8/100  
station it runs and loads significantly faster than the original 2.0 version.   
I'm happy about this, as I was seriously considering going back to the 1.2  
version, especially as I use Mma mainly as a programming language to handle  
lists and matrices, and not to deal with functions, integration, and so forth.  
Perhaps Wolfram changed their distribution policy after I asked.

Michael Chwe
Department of Economics
University of Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dblakele@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean D Blakeley)
Subject: Microphone Jack Wiring
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:39:29 GMT

A global thanks for all those who helped out on the Audio-Technica
Pro-8 question.  The weak link was the $1.29 Radio Shack mono 1/4"
to 1/8" plug on adaptor.  I'm in the process of having somebody
actually convert the 1/4" tip on the end of adaptor cable that steps
down the 3-prong accelerator jack.  The question he wants to know
before cutting into the cable and removing the 1/4" mono male plug,
what is the wiring diagram inside the female jack inside the MegaPixel.
It's been his experience that some computers are a little strange
when wiring their jacks.  Any tips?  Please respond by email, and I'll
summarize the whole mess when I get some time.

Dean
-- 
| Dean D Blakeley, MD            |  This ain't no party.  This ain't no disco |
| Division of General Medicine   |  This ain't no fooling around.             |
| 4510 UHC, 456 W 10th Ave       |  - David Byrne                             |
| Columbus OH 43210-1228         |  NeXTMail accepted                         |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: DELETED HOME DIRECTORY (PLEASE HELP)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:28:34 GMT

Mark Doucet writes
> I was setting up a 2 machine network and created some network user accounts  
and  
> moved all files from the local account to the network account.  I then  
deleted  
> the local user account and home directory (which unfortunately was named the  
> same as the network account) which deleted all the files on the network home  
> directory.  If you know away to fix this or retrieve deleted files please  
help  
> me.
> 
> Thanks
> desperate mark

Just restore from your backup....

	....You do make regular backups, of course....
From: simmons5275@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Next Purchase info wanted
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:26:35 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I am looking into purchasing a NeXT but do not have nay info on the products
available and the current prices. Could someone please mail me a list of where
I can find this out. Also I need a list of retailers in colorado and Iowa that
deal in nexts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mcn@cwru.edu (Michael C. Neuman)
Subject: Re: New version of Netrek for the NeXT!
Reply-To: mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:16:12 GMT

In article <sg9hpINNktp@agate.berkeley.edu> nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu (Nicholas  
Weaver) writes:
>	But this is what would REALLY be cool.  NeXTstep interface,
>not X11.  Blessed, selectivly.  Allows addition of borg "Modules" to
>the program, by draging and dropping compiled code snibbits
>or whatever.  When borg code is included, becomes non-blessed automatically.
>WOuld be really hot!  Just would have to amke sure that it 
>does not get past a blessing check and then institutes the borg modules.
>Maby by only allowing borg inclusion before connecting.  Also, it should,
>when opened, display a list of servers, and prompt th user what
>to connecxt to. 

  I believe the NeXTstep interface is not completely out of reach.  
Unfortunately, I don't really have the knowledge of NeXTstep to make it happen.  
I may do some poking around with it, but the best I can do is read the NeXT  
developers manual for the GUI... Not that I'm saying it's not worth the time,  
though. :-)

   The borg idea is pretty cool.. I currently maintain sunborg, and it's  
written in such a fashion that individual features can be turned on and off--so  
it wouldn't be too hard to implement. Allowing users to write new routines is  
another story though.

   If anyone is interested in picking up the NeXTstep port, let me know. It  
won't require a major overhaul at all, and I have a feeling that a lot of the X  
routines can go 1:1 with NeXTstep routines. Also, all the graphics routines are  
in one file, so there isn't any hunting for X specific stuff... Also, netrek  
can run under GL, so in case anyone knows NeXTstep AND SGI graphics  
libraries... :-)

--
Mike Neuman                mcn@b62103.student.cwru.edu
			   NeXTmail accepted!!!
"To make a machine that will be proud of us." - Thinking Machine's motto

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Printing over Ethertalk ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:36:46 GMT

Hi,

I want to print from NeXT to a printer connected via EtherTalk. Is there
any way to teach the NeXT (OS 2.1) EtherTalk ? Will printing over EtherTalk
be no problem at all in OS 3.0 ?

--

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker      phone: ++49-30-6181635      e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: sccs on the NeXT
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:14:34 GMT
Reply-To: sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <skp5aINN7pa@agate.berkeley.edu> sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU  
(Gregory J. Sandell) writes:
> 
> I was surprised (and disappointed) to discover that sccs does not
> exist on the NeXT.  Or am I looking in the wrong place?  On a
> sparc, sccs is in /usr/ucb.  I thought that sccs was a standard part
> of a unix system.  Or is it possible to acquire an sccs to put on
> a NeXT?
> 
> Email replies appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
> --
> Greg Sandell
> Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
> sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu or sandell@garnet.berkeley.edu

I agree that we need this, and would like to see it integrated into Edit,  
perhaps as a service.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: The Future Revealed.
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:18:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.055954.14518@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.035754.11198@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip  
>McDunnough) writes:
>
>>And it's "most people" who
>> will determine the future. 
>
>There you have it folks. The future is DOS.

No, the present is DOS. The future will evolve from there. I think you have
missed my point. The momentum of the "Intel based" world is enormous. Every
conceivable little gadjet you could ever want it available there, and it
keeps gets less expensive every day. There's a gap between the NeXT OS and
those that currently live on PC's. That's obvious. But every second someone
is chipping away at the gap and NeXT just won't be able to come up with new
things fast enough in order to avoid being surpassed.

I think the NeXT is great. It's one of the few computers I've used that I
really, really,...like. However, I maintain that the mass market forces will
eventually dominate. For example, think about "multimedia" for a second. Its
real future lies, in my view, in the convergence of consumer products and
computer techniques. The ND is not the answer. A $1000 TV equipped with
an operating system that can control entertainment, communications, etc...is
more along the right lines. The problem with the workstation world is the
cost of virtually every little thing you want to add to a workstation. The
initial cost may be low, but so what. People do not think of Sun's, HP's,
NeXT's,etc...when they think about buying a home item. They do consider PC's
and to a lessor extent Mac's( Apple has realized that marketshare is very
important although they may very well be too late). It is in that spirit that
I'd rather see NeXT heading away from the workstation label and more towards
the elegant personal computer label with something different to offer. Since
NeXT obviously doesn't agree, I wish them well. I hope they see the light 
though because they risk becoming another Amiga.

NeXT needs a low cost entry level computer. By low cost I mean $1500 complete
and in colour. Get rid of Unix. Put mach or whatever in ROM when it is stable
enough. And allow it to be cloned in Thailand if needs be. Wouldn't you
rather see 1,000,000 units/year vs. 50,000? 

Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu [NeXT mail ok]

[ Whither Neuron?]
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MIME-capable software
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:07:02 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca

In article <n_yj8dq.sphere@netcom.com> sphere@netcom.com (Sam Goldberger)  
writes:
> Having followed this thread for a while, a couple of reflections:
[...]
> Having gone through through this process, I came to understand better  
Mark's
> frustration about the level of discourse about mailers, especially
> given the fact that there are some very important issues at stake,
> issues which go well beyond the NeXT community. 

My experience with his postings is that he has not significantly raised  
the level of discourse. If he is so knowledgable, and his position is so  
well thought out, perhaps he could express it better? All he has done so  
far is harp about a "standard" that I, in all my readings of many, many  
computer rags and working on a number of systems, have *never* seen or  
even heard of.

> I would also like to say that Mark has been exceedingly patient in
> responding to exceedingly stupid questions from a UNIX tyro. 

He never responded to me at all when I asked him some questions via email.  
He might be right, but he sure hasn't convinced me of anything. Mostly,  
he's just been inflammatory.

-Anthony
From: peter@sysnext.library.upenn.edu (Peter C. Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: genetic algorithm SW?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:05:18 GMT

Hello -

Does anyone know of a public/shareware NeXT genetic algorithm  
classification program?  It would be nice to have source code, to enable  
me to apply the algoritm to new problem domains.  Thanks for your help.

--
Peter Gorman
University of Pennsylvania
Library Systems Office
peter@sysnext.library.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dblakele@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean D Blakeley)
Subject: Non-standard Unix commands
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:26:52 GMT

Something interesting happened last night that I didn't have an answer
to.  When trying to fix my NeXTstation at work, my wife said I should
have used a 'cut' command to help me out.  Now I don't want to bore
everybody with why I would want to do this, but 'cut' doesn't come with
our standard host of Unix commands.  I imagine this is probably a
difference between BSD and System V iterations.  We were curious, though,
about where one could obtain other possibly useful Unix functions that
aren't included in with the NeXT.  Thanks.

Dean (The physician who mungs Unix well)
Denise (The programmer who tries to patiently teach him)
-- 
| Dean D Blakeley, MD            |  This ain't no party.  This ain't no disco |
| Division of General Medicine   |  This ain't no fooling around.             |
| 4510 UHC, 456 W 10th Ave       |  - David Byrne                             |
| Columbus OH 43210-1228         |  NeXTMail accepted                         |
From: mark@ccc1.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: DELETED HOME DIRECTORY (PLEASE HELP)
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:01:05 GMT

I was setting up a 2 machine network and created some network user accounts and  
moved all files from the local account to the network account.  I then deleted  
the local user account and home directory (which unfortunately was named the  
same as the network account) which deleted all the files on the network home  
directory.  If you know away to fix this or retrieve deleted files please help  
me.

Thanks
desperate mark
From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTStep 486 should cost $250
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:54:49 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway

scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) writes:
> In fact, if companies were to get together and improve the public
> version, it could be "End User" much much sooner than "inside of 2
> years".  Of course, the chances of this happening are "inside of 1%"

Um.  Not.

"If companies were to get together"  I think you could reasonably
count on BSD386 taking MUCH much MUCH longer than 2 years to reach
"End User" quality, if ever.

Sorry, but that seems to be the way it goes...

Lyle		Transarc		707 Grant Street
412 338 4474	The Gulf Tower		Pittsburgh 15219