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Originally-from: DAVE         "NETWORK/PC SUPPORT OFFICER"
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:58:29 BST
From:         DAVE@RMCS.CRANFIELD.AC.UK
Subject:      The ultimate ?!

Hi,
I've been struggling away using an old 286 12mhz pc with 3mb ram running
MSDOS v5.0 and Windows v3.1.
Finally i've just been given the go ahead to check out the neccesary spec
of a new machine to replace the old one.
This machine will have to be running Windows and be very capable of having
a window into our pathworks enviroment (connecting to a VAX 8800) and another
window into our gateway via comm ports (connecting to a Microvax 3100), plus
running Windows usual apps in the background. DEC windows is horrendously
slow on the current 286 so this MUST be improved to useable levels.
I have chosen to go for a PC in preference to an X-Windows terminal so a
lot of the features that can be performed in such an enviroment must have
some sort of credible emulation on the PC. - Wow !!
Am i asking too much ?
It obviously has to be a 486DX but what about the spec after that ?
33mhz or 50mhz because its upgradeable ?
Obviously SVGA preferably at 1024x768 but on a colleagues machine this level
of resolution gives slow re-draw rates. Is this usual ? What can be done about
it ? I have seen people mentioning a new resolution of something like 1260x980
(somewhere close to that anyway) - is this worth considering ?
How about a graphics accelerator ?
Bare in mind that i will need access to at least three drive bays (not
including the hard disk) as at some time in the future i may have a CD-ROM
as well.
And how about RAM ?
12mb?
16mb?
how much ?
How about the 586's ?
When are they due out (if not already) and would the inevitable price hike
be worth the extra performance ???!
So come on - imagine you've been given almost free hand to design your own
desktop PC to run all the above apps and to make them very tolerable in use
what would you suggest !?

Yours excitedly !!!!!!

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:59:46 EDT
From:         "Glenn E. Patton" <gep@OCLC.ORG>
Subject: Re: date format
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

The date format YYYYMMDD is at least an American national standard as described
in _Representation for Calendar Date and Ordinal Date for Information Exchange_
(ANSI X3.30).  I believe that there is a comparable ISO standard but I don't
know the number.


     Glenn Patton                           Internet: gep@rsch.oclc.org
     Online Computer Library Center
     6565 Frantz Rd, Dublin OH  43017       Phone:    (614) 764-6371
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From:         MICHAEL@BMGTMAIL.UMD.EDU
Subject:      Re: del misc lines in .ini files
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I forget which of the anonymous ftp sites has it, but a program
called "INCTRL" will track what files are loaded onto a machine, and
what lines are added to win.ini and other .ini files.  Thus you can
remove the lines, and the files with certainty.



Michael@bmgtmail.umd.edu  :)
College of Business and Management
University of Maryland, College Park
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:36:00 EST
From:         OBRAND%OPUS@MCOIARC.BITNET
Subject:      Downloads

Does anyone know where I can download SideBar Lite (a program manager
replacement)?  It is shareware and I would like to try it out.  If anyone
already uses it, I would appreciate your comments about the program.

Also if anyone knows where Magic Screen Saver is available from, I would like
to know.

PLEASE SEND RESPONSES TO ME PERSONALLY AND NOT THE LIST, I AM NOT SUBSCRIBED.
Thanks in advance.
                        Owen Brand

                        Obrand@opus.iarc.mco.edu
                        Obrand@jcvaxa.jcu.edu
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:51:59 +0300
From:         KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT
Subject:      Reply to mad mice
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Sounds like a bad joke of some colleague. Check out, if there is some other
batchprogram running in the background which goes off after a certain time has
passed.
HTH, Alfred
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:01:00 EDT
From:         The Hole in the Wall Gang <BROWNF@CRL.AECL.CA>
Subject:      CONVERTING DATA

There is a product called "TRANS for 1-2-3" from INTEX Solutions, INC.
Telephone 617-449-6222 which will meet the requirements for ASCII to
123 or Dbase conversion.

                                        ...Frank
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:06:40 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: *.zoo files
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> Can anyone tell be what is *.zoo file? Is it a compressed file?

Leonard,

Yes the zoo format is compressed.  The current version that I have is 2.10
written by Rahul Dhesi.  You can find it as a self-extracting executable
called zoo210.exe.  It is available at most FTP sites that have pub dom
files, seeing as some files are stored in this format.  I think I got this
copy from WUARCHIVE in their SIMTEL mirror.  You might want to check ARCHIE
for the site nearest you that has it.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:50:00 EST
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Paradox and Windows
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:58:00 CDT
From: Howard Blakesley <HBLAKE%NNOMED.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>

> > From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Win3.1, EMM386, and memory
> >
> > While we're on the topic of PIF's... has anyone been successful in creating
> > a pif for PARADOX 3.5 to allow the machine to run in protected mode vs. real
> > in paradox?

> I run PARADOX 3.5 only infrequently under WINDOWS 3.1 because of
> continuing lockup problems.  I suspect it has to do with Borland's
> propriatary memory management system.  However, when forced
> to run it, I use typical DOS default settings and start it up
> "first". This is before any Windows apps.  I also never run another
> DOS app under Windows at the same time.  This gives me the best
> chance for a successful session.  I am eagerly awaiting PARADOX
> for WINDOWS.  The reviews look terrif!!!

I'm runnning Pardox 3.5 under Win 3.1 with no problems.  Will get back to
you on the PIF settings.  In the meantime, make sure SHARE.EXE is
installed and you give Paradox 256K of EMS in PIF.

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
Western Carolina Univerity                               Practice safe hex,
Internet:  IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU                 Just say NO to viruses,
BITNET:    IS480P02@WCUVAX1.BITNET     And always wear a write-protect tab.
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:15:00 GMT
From:         HeringerMR
              <WFCB/WFCB1/HeringerMR%Western_Farm_Credit_Bank@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      windows cd-rom applications
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 can anyone point me to a good source that lists the windows 3.1 cd-rom
 applications that are available.  i am currently using microsoft bookshelf
 for windows and would like to get a wider breadth of reference material
 like bookshelf that can be accessed while running windows.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:21:00 CDT
From:         "Wile E. Coyote" <BBHULSEY@LIFE.UAMS.EDU>
Subject:      More Erratic Mouse Behavior
X-To:         WIN3-L@UICVM.UIC.EDU

Greetings!

I just thought I'd add my experiences of erratic mouse behavior to the list...

I'm running Win3.1 on a Zenith 386sx with 6 meg of memory.  I'm using a
Microsoft mouse with the latest dos mouse driver (8.2) and whatever Windows
mouse driver came with 3.1.  Although I have a rather non-vanilla system (I'm
also running QEMM and am using a Diamond Stealth VRAM with their latest
640x480 driver) I have noticed that whenever I open the MS-DOS Prompt icon, my
mouse pointer movement in windows becomes very jerky and erratic.  While
moving the pointer, the pointer will for brief moments appear in two places at
once along the path of movement.  This behavior continues even after the dos
application is closed and the only way to remedy it is to restart windows (I'm
running in enhanced mode, by the way).  At one point I looked at my system
resources when this was happening and they stood at 78% which I don't think is
unusually low.  I don't think the problem is dirt, since it only manifests
itself after I use the MS-Dos Prompt icon.  Has anyone else noticed this kind
of problem?  Is there a fix, perhaps an alternate PIF setting or settings?

.......
:  o/ : Bruce Hulsey
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:20:33 +0300
From:         KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT
Subject:      Reply to EGA & VGA in a window?
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@helios.BITNET

Maybe both we had the same problem. As far as I remember, it was me, who wrote
about this problem several months ago, stating, that it is impossible. The only
way to do so, of which I know, is to switch to OS2. :) One of the reasons why I
love it.
Have a nice day, Alfred
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:19:57 +1000
From:         WITOLD <WITOLD@HOTBLK.DSTO.GOV.AU>
Subject:      Re: EGA & VGA in a window?
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

I would like to disagree with the statement that you cannot run a high-
resolution graphics application under Windows 3.1.

I have successfully run Microsoft Word 5.0 in graphics mode in a
Window on my 80386 computer in enhanced mode. It was definitely
running in 16-color graphics mode. I have even run programs that I
have written that change from text to graphics mode while I am in
a window, and they too work fine. The biggest problem is that everything
in the window is very S..L..O..W, much worse than text mode in a window.
Hence I don't often use the graphics mode capability.

However, there is one proviso to get this to work: you must have a
Windows 3.1 driver that supports this feature. Currently, I make use
of the SVGA 16-color driver that came with Windows 3.1, and on my
machine at work I use the 8514/a driver with equal success. I have
tried various recent Win 3.1 drivers for my Tseng Labs ET4000 card,
but these do not allow me to run graphics applications in a window.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:57:17 EST
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From:         John Beck <JBECK@BMGTMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD ROM installation help
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If you are using DOS 5.0.  Make sure that you have loaded setver.exe
in your config.sys.  We discovered that MSCDEX.exe would not run on
DOS 5.0 without telling setver to pretend we were using DOS 3.30.

> I have a NEC CDROM that worked fine when I set it up.  Then I
> saw a more recent date on a MSCDEX.exe file somewhere and copied
> it to my computer.  As soon as it was loaded everything hung.
> When I copied the old file back everything was fine.  I can't
> tell you why this was, but it works.
> --
> "Noli nothis permittere te terere."
>           John Beck
Director of Computing Services
      College of Business
    jbeck@bmgtmail.umd.edu
        (301) 405-2271
From: Scarafino@MULTICS-A.PMS.FORD.COM (Vince Scarafino)
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Subject: Re: Memory in Windows
Date: 12 Aug 92 00:16:00 GMT
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 >Date:  11 August 1992 16:13 edt
 >From:  Angela=Mcormack%DASM%DGEP=HQ=ADMSR at DGBT.BANYAN.DOC.CA
 >Subject:  Memory in Windows

 >How does Windows use extended memory?
 >I am running Windows 3.1 on a ALR 486 with 16M of RAM.
 >When I use the dos prompt to run a compile program it gives me a
 >non sufficient memory error.  I am not clear on how Windows uses the RAM or
 >the swap file.

Windows running in enhanced mode provides a single virtual memory space
whose size is determined somewhat by the combined capacity of your real
memory (including extended, but not expanded) and your swap file.  The
page handling subsystem moves 4K pages between the two environments
(real memory and its representation in the swap file).  So regarding
your question about how extended storage is used--it is divided into 4K
pages into which programs and data are brought for processing.

The "non sufficient memory error" is harder to explain because it can
have many causes.  Most of the time it is because of some virtual memory
constraint where certain types of storage are limited in size and fill
up.  (I know it seems stupid to invent a virtual resource and then run
out of it, but there are plenty of precedents in the operating systems
world.)

With the amount of memory you have, it would seem your are hitting a
virtual limit.  PIF files allow you to establish virtual limits for
regular, extended, and expanded memory.  Do you know what settings you
have for the DOS prompt you are using?  You can use the "mem /c" command
(assuming you've got DOS 5.0) to see the virtual configuration.

Vince
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:15:00 CDT
From:         $LPAHM0@LUCCPUA.BITNET
Subject:      Help: WinExec

I use WinExec to run two programs. The first one is a pif file and
the second one is a Windows production. I want the second one not to
run until the first one finishes. But When I use WinExec to do this,
Windows always let them run almost samultaniously(Multi-Task?)

Is there any way to get around with this?

Please give me hint.

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:21:37 CST
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From:         "Juergen W.G. Bentz" <iai.kfk.de@IAI.KFK.DE>
Subject:      RE:Super VGA

In Message Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:57:04 EDT,
  Jeff Cohen <unido!ALBNYVM1.bitnet!JC924> writes:

>
>I have to start out by saying that I am a novice at all of this, but I
>would like some information on using the Super VGA driver with Win3.1
>I have a DFI computer (Diamond Flower Inc. -- a clone from Taiwan) with a
>VG-5500 16-bit Super-VGA Board (at least that's what it says on the book that
>came with it. (the computer is a 486-33 with 8mg of RAM).  Originally, I set
>Win3.1 up using the VGA driver, but I thought I'd try the SVGA driver.  I
>changed the set up and it worked OK, but when Win3.1 came up, everything was
>much smaller on the screen.  It was a lot sharper, but much smaller.  I didn't
>like it, so I went back to the VGA driver.  Is this the way it is supposed to
>be?  Is there any way to increase the size of things in SVGA?  Am I doing
>something wrong?  Is there another driver I should be using?  Or should I
>just stay with the VGA driver?

look at cica for Drivers, I think you can find a SVGA-driver for your card
JWGB -)


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From:         Bill Holman <BRH@ARLAN.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      Rumba
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Is anyone familiar with a product called RUMBA from Wall Data Inc.
or any similar programs?  RUMBA is a communications program for
mainframe connections from a PC.  This can take place via IRMA
connections or through telnet.  I was wondering if there was a program
like RUMBA that supported OLE and how much the program costs.

Thankyou,

   Bill R. Holman
USI Computer Support
(BRH@arlan.byu.edu)
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From:         John Beck <JBECK@BMGTMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mouse and Modems
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu

> In article <9208160034.AA00281@slc10.INS.CWRU.Edu>
> Joseph Zupko <ah238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU> writes:
>
> >Howw come my mouse won't work when using a modem session. How can I fix it?
> >
> It sounds as if you have an IRQ confilct on your hands. Check to see if you
> have both your modem and mouse set up to use com port 1 (either in your
 windows
> software, or the hardware settings). Then change one of them to com 2. That
> should resolve the problem

Also, if mouse and modem are on different comm ports, make sure that
those ports are using different IRQ's.           John Beck
Director of Computing Services
      College of Business
    jbeck@bmgtmail.umd.edu
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:07:00 EDT
From:         Bill Adkins <adkins@CAER.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Transfer between dialog and code

 >From: Patrick Black <pbb@hanover-crrel.army.mil.UUCP>

>	What is the easiest and clearest method of
>	transfering numbers (actually text) from
>	a set of different dialog boxes to the various
...
>	Is it easiest to create a Transfer buffer for
>	each dialog box (I have a total of 7) that contains
...


  I use transfer buffers a lot and find them easy to set up and use.  They
put initial data in boxes/buttons/... no problem.  In Can_Close, transfer the
data back the other way, do sscanf's or whatever to convert to floats/ints/..
and do error checking.  (I use BC++ 3.1... v2.0 seemed to self destruct the
transfer buffers for combo list boxes... and of course Borland knew nothing
and never got back to me after I downloaded programs and files to them and
never responded to my follow-up phone calls... sigh.  The problem was fixed
in 3.1).  Here, also, I write/convert number crunchers with lots of input
and output data.

  I have another, related, problem though.  The transfer buffers work fine for
setting and getting values, but they don't let you set initial styles for the
dialog items (like ~tabstop or ~visible).
  I tried   Thing = new TEdit(this, GOOD_NAME, NULL);
            Thing->Attr.style &= ~WS_VISIBLE;
            TransferBuffer = (void far *)PGoodBuffer;   in dialog constructor
  and was ignored.  No error, not a NULL pointer result; the style came up
exactly as originally defined in resource workshop (WS_VISIBLE).  Winsight
shows all initial Thing Attr settings are 0  !!  and the structure itself is the
Error_Structure !!, not a TEdit... !!!   The   new...  structure I created seems
to have no relationship to my dialog, although the transfer structure works fine
and no errors or complaints are ever made by C or Windows......
  I'm somewhat of a novice, myself, so what have I missed, good people???
                                           Bill Adkins.....