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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: Sequel in the Works
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:44:01 GMT


Mike Quigley writes:

>Now shooting: Jeffrey Dahmer and Marcia Strassman 
>starring in "Honey, I Threw Up The Kids"...

Boy, you said a mouthful...........



Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: M Maxwell
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Lifeforce (was Re: Unintentionally hilarious movies)
Date: 23 Jul 1992 19:30:24 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: world
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Keywords: eeeuuuuuchhh!

In article <1992Jul23.140409.4528@cbfsb.cb.att.com> smc@hotsc.att.com (Steven
M. Casagrande) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.184313.15882@Princeton.EDU>
spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
>>(S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>>>A couple of friends and I watched "Life Force" last night on TV (side
>>>note, how old is this movie?  One of my roommates said he'd heard of it
>>>when it was in theaters but I don't remember it at all)... 
>
>This was one of the first THX movies I saw.  The THX promo/demo was
>the best thing about that performance.
>
>At least Rosanne Barr wasn't playing the lead Vampire.  ;-)
>
>Steve Casagrande
>smc@hotsc.att.com
>
Please.  Some of us are eating as we read.
Have you ever tried to clean bits of chow mein out of a keyboard?
It isn't pretty.
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Matt Maxwell
mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

Hey you kids!  Don't touch that, it's ART!
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:16:15 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Jul22.164904.6835@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen):
> Yikes, did he/it/she/whatever have a sex change operation?!?!?!
> Walter Carlos. Geeeeeesh!!!! Egaad!!!! Oooooooh!

What're you going to do, now?  Burn all his/her albums?  Only touch
them with rubber gloves? Have them exorcised?  Sheesh.

-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Tune In Tomorrow
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:04:38 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>Stewart Tame writes:
>>
>>Also this was the second movie I've ever seen with spoken credits (the
>>other was _Farenheit 451_.)  Are there any others that anyone can think
>>of?
>>
>My first reaction is to say that "Citizen Kane" has spoken credits,
>but it could be "The Magnificent Ambersons." My brain hurts.
>--
>Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>
>Coach of the Fighting Lazars
>Member of the Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
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From: lishka@dxcern.cern.ch (Christopher Lishka)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of "The Mistress"?
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:36:05 GMT

In <1992Jul26.151746.5639@ifi.unizh.ch> hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:

>In article <24JUL199209295046@uhccvx> rpeeler@uhccvx (Russ Peeler) writes:

	>>Anyway, Wuhl mentioned that he had recently finished a movie
	>>called "The Mistress" with Robert DeNiro, Danny Aiello, and
	>>Eli Wallach.  It sounded really good.

Unfortunately, it isn't all that good.  

	>"Mistress" is playing in Europe now. It's like the recent
	>"The Player" a film about Hollywood and what it does to
	>people.

It was released here in Geneva as _Hollywood Mistress_.  It played for
a couple of weeks in a fairly prominent theatre, then disappeared.


	>The film is too long and ultimately unsatisfying. The good
	>supporting cast can not make you forget that Wuhl can't carry
	>a picture on his own.

Actually, I thought Wuhl was OK, although he did have one basic
expression through the entire film.  This was not that bad, as his
character was a pretty burned-out narrow-minded director who would go
to great lengths to get his film made.  Unfortunately, in scenes where
he did have to break out of this, he didn't do all that well.

My real problem with the film was the direction.  This film tried to
be far too many things.  Given the really great cast that had been
assembled (Martin Landau, Robert DeNiro, Danny Aiello, Christopher
Walken in a bit part, etc.), it is amazing how lost the film got in
its own plot.  The actresses and actors for the most part played their
characters very well.  However, the movie kept skipping around, never
focusing on any one of them or even any one theme for very long.  What
could have been a very funny little comedy about how movies are made
in Hollywood turned into a rather rambling movie with little point and
a very dull ending.

One bright spot is that some of the performances are outstanding.  The
person who did the best job (IMHO) is Martin Landau as the second-rate
producer who will do anything to get a film made.  The woman who plays
Robert DeNiro's mistress (the "Hollywood Mistress" of the title) is
also wonderful, and Robert DeNiro turns in another good performance
(this time as a rich and arrogant financial backer of the film).  The
young script-writer is also very funny.  Danny Aiello brings a nice
small performance in, and his wife is also very good.  Christopher
Walken is in the film for a very short time, but once again he steals
the scenes he appears in.

If you must see this film, I highly recommend getting it on video.  It
won't lose much on a small screen.  I suspect that it was released in
Europe early to see how well it would do.  Based on the size of the
audience and the length of stay here, I suspect it didn't do that
well.

							.oO Chris Oo.

-- 
                                                           Christopher Lishka
 Never drive a car when you're dead...			   PPE Division, CERN
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From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Casablanca, Texas Review
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:05:01 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo


	I had the pleasure of seeing the new  verson of Casablanca  last
night and had the following impressions:

	Colour vs B&W: The use of colour is, of course, infinitely
better than drab old black and white. This version of Casablanca is
especially pretty, taking advantage of the Texas countryside, so  the
old version may as well go into the dumper.

	Story: Dropping the whole WWII thing (Which meant you had to
listen to funny accents and put up with weird names) is a good move.
WW II is getting pretty old and Spielberg has pretty much said it all 
already. Texas is a better location visually, anyway.

	I like that they end up together at the end. The first version 
was a real downer; there's no point to self sacrifice if you  don't
get anything for it. 

	The chase scenes just as good as Terminator II's and the explosions
better than anything Silver ever did. I thought the bit with helicopter was
a rip-off of 'Last Boy Scout', but so what? They dumped most of the really
boring chatter that filled the original, which really sped things up.

	Casting was great: Dafoe makes a great Rick, and Kim Bassinger was
really hot (Not as hot as Madonna in the scene where she 'distracts' the
bad guy while Dafoe and Bassinger make their getaway, though). Goodman was
pretty good as Sam and the audience seemed to like Baldwin as the sheriff.
Michael Caine makes a better Cuban badguy than I thought he would, although
that part of the plot still confuses me. Great makeup, and the costumes were
often visible!

	On the whole, just as good as 'Pretty Woman', and even more upbeat. 
A must-see for the summer.

							James Nicoll


	This can't possibly need a smiley.

	I have the plot for this worked out, if anyone wants to see
my version of the 90s 'Casablanca, Texas'. Casting's optional, of course.
From: delanzo@sparc22.hri.com (Michael DeLanzo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Keywords: trivia
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:35:12 GMT
Reply-To: delanzo@hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


> 
> 	In <1992Jul 16.022059. 10668@nntpd2.cso.dec.com> KWorkman writes:
> 
> >I'm interested in general trivia on Christopher Walken.  I really like
> >him in Batman Returns and Brainstorm and plan to watch some of his other
> >movies like Dead Zone.  I'm more curious about the person (ie vital
> >statistics, fan clubs, general trivia etc...  Your responses greatly
> >appreciated.  - Kw
> 

Two people that Walken "hangs around" with are James Woods and Peter
Weller. Now if that doesn't tell you how strange he is ... If I saw the
three of them walking down the street I'd run the other way. 

-md

BTW, I like the work of all three actors.
From: jamesc@concour.cs.concordia.ca (SCHIDLOWSKY james c.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Carole Bouquet
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:03:42 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec


Don't forget her remarkable debut role in Luis Bunuel's 1977 film:
_That Obscure Object of Desire_.

_-_
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From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Chuckorama)
Subject: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:47:27 GMT

Man oh man. Here I was thinking Greta Scacchi was very one dimensional blonde
actress based on her brief appearance in Presumed Innocent and sort of 
lackluster performance in Shattered. Then I accidentally picked up "A Man In
Love" and that's what I was with her after that video. I then saw White
Mischief (excellent), and Coca Cola Kid (bizarre)...one of things that's very
impressive about her is she's played an Australian (CCK), a multi-lingual 
(Man In Love - she spoke Italian, French, and English), American (Presumed
Innocent, Shattered) -- So what is she? The British accent seems to come 
quite well to her...anyone have any background??

			Chuck

PS I'm in love...again....and I thought Sharon Stone and Jennifer Connelly 
were gonna be my only ones....sigh....
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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: Unintentionally hilarious movies
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:54:11 CDT

In article <1992Jul22.210623.25646@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> cah@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Allen Halsell) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.184313.15882@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>>A couple of friends and I watched "Life Force" last night on TV (side
>>note, how old is this movie?  One of my roommates said he'd heard of it
>>when it was in theaters but I don't remember it at all)... for those of
>>you who saw it last night (or have seen it before and actually remember
>>it)... you know the scene where they have the "girl from the park"
>>hooked up to the heart scanner device (or whatever that was), with
>>electrodes stuck to her head?  And when her 2 hours have elapsed, she
>>starts going into convulsions, presumably trying to find more life force
>>to suck up?
>>
>>Did anyone besides me find this scene incredibly hilarious?
>
>I found the funniest part to be the scenes of rampage and destruction
>with a totally naked woman walking through them to be pretty funny.
>The fact that the vampire's performance is almost completely in the
>nude must rank as one of the all-time cheap tricks.
>
I found this whole movie to be an almost total botch of it's original
source material which was, "Space Vampires" by Colin Wilson. SV is a
classic of Science Fiction but after Tobe Hooper took his Texas
Chainsaw to this film all that was left was a bloody mess and a bunch
of rubber puppets. Interestingly enough Tobe went on to remake 
the '50s film, "Invaders from Mars" and did a *very* good job of it.
I guess that bad Science Fiction from the 1950's was more his forte.
"LifefArce" also stars Patrick Stewart from Star Trek TNG if you care...:)

>All in all, a ridiculous and enjoyable movie.  Oh, and it's not too
>old.  Mid eighties, I think.
>-- 
My favorite scene was Tommy Lee Jones and the Naked Space Vampire Chick (tm)
engaged in Cosmic Copulation on top of a tomb whilst channeling energy 
up to the Giant Vampire Sperm Ship in orbit. What a waste of celluloid!

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From: brougham@fraser.sfu.ca (Chris Brougham)
Subject: Identify this movie
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:24:07 GMT

Hi,

Deep inside my unconscious I have this movie image from I think
the 1960's. It takes place on Mars (or perhaps a Mars-like planet).
There is a survey team in spacesuits with respirators. They're walking
through the sand dunes of Mars and they come across an artifact. 
A small statue or somehing like that.

Was this a dream I had or did this scene take place in a movie?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:15:07 GMT

Louis Blair <lb2e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>Well, for starters, they could have explained why oh why
>>the T1000 was able to go back in time in a machine that
>>only allows living things to pass through.

>I don't think it is necessary for a movie to explain details
>like this.  It is easy enough to come up with explanations
>on one's own.

Yeah. Just wrap a skin around him. On the other hand it would be hard to
say then why they didn't do the same thing with advanced weapons. I did
not like the idea of the T1000 anyway. I mean you could imagine some-
thing like the normal Terminator being built on nowadays' Technology
projected into the future, but an artificial guy of mercury with no CPU
or whatever...
I guess it was put in there just because you could do the F/X. And since
the idea is so far fetched it was hard to judge what it could do or
couldn't, thereby killing the suspense a bit. No matter how benevolent
you looked at it, the outcome seemed constructed.

That doesn't mean I didn't like it.


May the Cool be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:10:48 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <#pyxp5n@rpi.edu> garrem@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson) writes:
>She was also very good in THE PLAYER.      


I thought I was the only one who liked her in THE PLAYER!  Perhaps she's
an acquired taste?  Although I wish she could make just one movie that
didn't feature her mammarian endowments so prominently.  Can't she keep
her shirt on for 2 lousy hours? ;^)
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Philly in the movies
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:19:18 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <84725@netnews.upenn.edu>, fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz):
> In article <1992Jul21.142338.4351@verifone.com> ed_l1@verifone.com writes:

>>I recall entering a contest.  First prize was a week in Phildalphia.
>>Second prize was two weeks in Philadelphia.

> Yet another urban legend that refuses to die.  That was a JOKE
> made by someone who doesn't like Philadelphia.  Just because
> some people don't like Philly doesn't mean that everyone does
> or that everyone should.

There are quite a few neat Hollywood allusions to Philly out there:

   The famous W.C.Fields quote: "I'd rather be in Philadelphia"

   It was also quipped by Bruce Willis in _Die Hard_.

   John Book is a Philly cop in _Witness_, and the opening of the movie shows
   some great scenes for 30th Street Station.

   And my personal favorite:  In _Never Say Never Again_, Barbara Carrara trys
   to get Sean Connery (as James Bond) to admit she was his "best" ever.  His
   response:  "There was this girl in Philadelpiha..."

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
                                        Keanu Reeves in _My Own Private Idaho_
From: rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Vertigo ending opinions <SPOILER sort of>
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:28:45 GMT
Organization: Tigana Restoration Inc.
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In article <1992Jul28.185841.12531@phillip.edu.au> t8800568@phillip.edu.au writes:
>Just what are peoples opinions about the ending?  What do you think
>it means?

	One thing is clear, Scotty's vertigo was cured just as the
	doctor told him it would.  All it takes was another highly
	traumatic event.  Of course, from what he feels, he might
	very well jump.

>
>My own opinion is that Maddie thinks for a second that the nun in 
>the tower is the ghost of the woman she helped kill.  
>

	That is also made very clear.

	Originally there was an additional footage shot for the ending:
	Scotty lean out of the tower and stay there for a long while,
	Scotty and Midge were sitting in Midge's apartment silent and
	listening to the radio, where the husband was capture in
	Switzerland.

	The scene in Midge's apartment was not shown because it takes
	away the dramatic effect that Hitchcock was aiming for.
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From: fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's cut in Philly?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:33:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul21.142338.4351@verifone.com> ed_l1@verifone.com writes:
[deletions]
>
>I recall entering a contest.  First prize was a week in Phildalphia.
>Second prize was two weeks in Philadelphia.

Yet another urban legend that refuses to die.  That was a JOKE
made by someone who doesn't like Philadelphia.  Just because
some people don't like Philly doesn't mean that everyone does
or that everyone should.

-- 
   Katie Fritz --Internet: fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu -- CompuServe: 71257,3153
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Comfort of Strangers
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.045927.19410@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>  
dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott) writes:
> 
> Has anyone seen the movie "Comfort of Strangers" with screenplay by
> Harold Pinter?
> 
> If you understood the movie, please explain. It was too cryptic for me.

Well, I've only seen it once and need to see it again, but I liked it a  
lot. It seemed to be addressing sex-roles and sexuality, in a predator vs.  
prey context, but all dressed up with a surface of forced civility.  
Walken's character is overcompensating for what is a problem he seems to  
have with his own bisexuality, being a decendent of a long line of his own  
perception of hyper-masculine father figures. Richardson's character seems  
to be discovering a level of sexual ambiguity in herself, as she seems to  
decide that her lover is expendable and SPOILER...




..her lover does indeed become expended, or preyed upon as the outcast,  
perhaps as the weak social member. A pretty but seemingly useless male who  
hasn't any assertive tendencies. Mirren's character may appear to be the  
weakest, but she support's Walken's image, in a parasitic relationship.  
Anyway, there's a lot going on, and the surface of the film is really  
gorgeous. The main plot of an overbearing host/trapped visitor conflict is  
also interesting, especially if you've ever been in such a situation...

Love to talk about it some more.

AK

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From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: One False Move (I didn't mean to change subject)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 08:35:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

One False Move was quite a good gritty crime drama... It's the kind
of movie that you watch and enjoy, leave the theater, grab a bite to
eat, and then, while chewing, think about the flick and what went
on... It's structured in a very clever manner... These are not card-
board characters, and as my dad said, the more the film progresses, 
"it's like peeling an onion, seeing the layers hidden beneath." 
Quite powerful, and I'm thinking of seeing it again...

BTW, I guess we should all thank Roger Ebert, who used his power as
critic to get this film known (He'd seen at a festival and loved it,
and raved about it in the paper... That led the distributors to release
it on film, instead of straight to video, and the rest is history).

--Peter M.

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