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From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: rz?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:45:38 GMT

I know that sz is on the pindarus ftp site, but I've heard talk of rz under
GNO.  Does anybody know where I can find this program?  It would be really
helpful since I rarely upload from my GS to my Unix account... I normally
download from my account to my GS.  I hate having to quit GNO to run
ProTERM.  Being able to download in the background, under GNO, would be
great!

	Thanks,
		...Mike


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From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:33:04 GMT

>From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
>Subject: Re: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
 
>There has to be a way to do this, even if it
>means grabbing all memory above 128K and letting ProDOS 8 use only the
>first two banks.
 
No need to grab memory from ProDOS 8. It and applications under it are limited
to the lower 128K unless they use the Memory Manager.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
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Subject: AppleWorks Classic Text Formatter
From: rhill@oread.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill)
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:17:12 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

	I have started writing a simple AppleWorks (Classic) Word Processor 
displayer (a shell utility), and would like some suggestions:
     First of all, which commands, if any, should I use inverse text for 
(subscript, superscript, boldface, underline, etc.)?  
     Should the new page commands be ignored?  
     Should I ignore double and triple space?  
     Are there any other formatting options that I should handle in a 
particular way?  
     Would it be helpful to have an option to print formatting options (like 
center, etc.) in a format like AppleWorks does in Zoom mode
(i.e. ----Center)?

	Is there anything else that would be nice to have?

Thanks.

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:46:49 -0500 
From: Gregory Ross Thompson <gregt+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: new version of CP

  There's a new version of CP on pindarus in the incoming directory
(cp.bxy).  What's new?

	you can now rename a volume (mv /oldvol /newvol).
	error reporting is better if a volume isn't online in some cases.
	fixed a horribly obscure bug that probably never caused a
crash on anyone's system, because in order to get it to crop up, you
had to be doing some REALLY stupid shit.

  I've tested this new version a bit, but I can't test every case too
thoroughly.  If get it, and you think you've found a problem with it,
please send me mail, with as much info on the problem as possible, and
I will fix it as soon as humanly possible.

  Remember, I can't fix bugs if I don't know about 'em...

  Well, have fun with it, folks.

		-Greg
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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: rz?
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:16:07 GMT

mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:

>I know that sz is on the pindarus ftp site, but I've heard talk of rz
under
>GNO.  Does anybody know where I can find this program?  It would be
really
>helpful since I rarely upload from my GS to my Unix account... I normally
>download from my account to my GS.  I hate having to quit GNO to run
>ProTERM.  Being able to download in the background, under GNO, would be
>great!

The problem with downloading in the background is that is that the GS is
probably not good enough to keep up the pace of the sender. Once while I
was using sz in the background, even a simple ls command would cause the
transfer to slow to a nearly unacceptable rate. This is ok for sending,
because you're just making the receiver wait for you, but the sender won't
wait when you're receiving!

BTW, what's a good way to "transact" with my Unix account without leaving
GNO? I tried TelCom, but its terminal emulation (sorry Jawaid) really
sucks. Like it writes ^J when it gets ^J. It should perform the action,
not display the character!
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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: MV bug (?)
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:05:16 GMT

>	Hmmm, as I recall there is an archive or two on the disk,
>which would render Find File useless.

There is an archive. It contains the source code. Say sscii was in there. I
wouldn't be able to use it anyway since I have no C compiler :)

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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Reading shell variables from a program.
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:40:29 GMT

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>I looked through the documentation at hand (as well as several manpages on
>the unix box here) but I couldn't figure out how to read a shell variable
>from within a program.  

Sure. Simply getenv() it. To change, setenv(). Hey, that's ANSI. Look
in your "C - A Ref....blah" or "K&R 2", hmm? :)

Soenke
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From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: sciibin compiled under GNO?
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Summary: Some people need to pay attention
Keywords: GNO,BinSCII,lamers
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:12:43 GMT

In article <74323@apple.apple.COM> unknown@Apple.COM (The Unknown User) writes:
>
>	Has anyone compiled sciibin under GNO?  If so, would you post the
>binaries somewhere?

There is a program called 'sscii' which comes with GNO.  Its a shell version
of the GScii+ NDA and as such undoes BinSCII files rather nicely.  Pay more
attention to your GNO disks, eh?

>unknown@apple.com		Apple II Forever


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From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Re: uEmacs + GNO
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:25:17 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

In article <1992Nov17.145355.9394@cpu.com> gwlester@cpu.com writes:
>	It is in the "Kernal Reference Manual" under the "Non-compliant
>Terminal Programs" section.  (Page 27 if my memory is correct) In other words
>RTFM.
>

	I purchased the alpha version of the program, whose FM for the
Kernal is *only* 12 pages long and simply mentions that uEmacs doesn't work.
I did read TFM.
	Thank you.
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: rz?
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:20:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: charnel.1ef165INNaj1
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <Bxxn6w.2AA@CAM.ORG> vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
>mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
>
>BTW, what's a good way to "transact" with my Unix account without leaving
>GNO? I tried TelCom, but its terminal emulation (sorry Jawaid) really
>sucks. Like it writes ^J when it gets ^J. It should perform the action,
>not display the character!

It sounds like you have "Control Show" on.  Try OA-P, which toggles 
control show, and that -should- fix it.

I use telcom for the majority of my vt100 emulation, and it works just great.
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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: Machine language forking
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:18:00 GMT

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>  Make sure _wait_ is pushing a longword pointer on the stack. NULL (0) is
>fine as long as it's a long.  That's the only thing I see possibly wrong.

Well, you wrote the macro I used! You should know :)

I _did_ check and the macro does use ph4 to push the value. If the macro works
the only other thing that could go wrong is the library routine, but I doubt
that!

I sent the source code to Tim, who said he would debug it for me (Thanks).
Let's see what he comes up with :)

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From: drees@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Drees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: GSH question / bug?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:13:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxxHI3.Bst
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov18.180905.7529@news.csuohio.edu> damin@ackerman.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein) writes:
>Hi...I'll make this short and sweet...
>
>Under the 1.0 realease of GNO, my GSH interprets...
>
>$MAIL  and $MAILPATH as one and the same..
>
>Does GSH only only scan the first 4 bytes of the variable or what?
>
>Using this...
>
>set mail='31/usr/spool/mail/damin'
>set mailpath='31/usr/spool/mail'


Just directing this to the right place.



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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: GSI NDA posted to pindarus
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:33:24 GMT

I just placed the GSI NDA w/source on pindarus.cs.uiuc.edu in
/pub/apple2/gno/GSinda.shk.

Enjoy! (Bug reports to .null)

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Un ix books
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:29:02 GMT

larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:

>Jawaid,

>Did you ever post the list of books to replace the Bourne book??

  Nope, but here they are.

  Title
  Publisher/Price
  Address
  Quick review

  Exploring the UNIX System
  SAMS	$29.95
  11711 N. College
  Carmel, IN 46032
  Broad coverage, tutorial format

  UNIX for the Impatient
  Addison-Wesley	$31.95
  Menlo Park, CA
  a description of UNIX for technically-oriented people

  Using UNIX
  Que
  Carmel, IN
  Definitely for a UNIX _user_ as opposed to programmer.  The
  organization is somewhat strange for a technical person, but
  coverage of topics is good.

  Note that there are many more beginner's UNIX books than this; 
these are the only ones I had time to check out fairly thoroughly.

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From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: uEmacs screen updates
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:36:35 GMT

In article <kf42524@pro-sol.cts.com> mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis) writes:
>
>That's true.  I wrote a version of the Apple II i/o stuff that used the
>Console Driver and it was so sluggish that it was more annoying than the
>direct video blasting under GNO now.

    Is it slow because of the way uemacs updates the screen?  Things like
'stevie' and 'less' use proper screen I/O, but they don't suffer from 
sluggishness and they work over a terminal.  uemacs also seems to want to
combine a bunch of pending scroll commands into one screen update.  That
would make sense for a graphics-based editor, but I thought the text mode
was fast enough to avoid that (on a local terminal anyway).

    In any case, are you still maintaining the GS version?  I've come across
a few bugs while writing the MuGS scripts.
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From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:24:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.154806.25061@r-node.gts.org> taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao) writes:
> In article <bazyar.722074445@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
> >
> >  GNO can _shut down_, and then run a P8, and return to GNO, but GNO can't
> >simply pause processes and run P8 because programs like Proterm and
> >AppleWorks 3.0 assume they have free run of memory; they'll overwrite
> >anything in GS memory whether they really use it or not.
> 
>     Not quite... Proterm and Appleworks at least are smart enough not to
> march all over things like PIF's and desk accessories and other memory
> already taken by GS/OS.

That is the least of the problems.  As Jawaid mentioned, ProDOS-8 and
GS/OS reside in the same areas of RAM (language card in bank 0).

GS/OS also uses a large chunk at the top of bank 0, the top of bank 1,
and all the language card space in bank 1.

There may be interrupt handlers within GS/OS device drivers sitting
there waiting to do GS/OS system service calls (the entry points to
which are in the bank 1 language card space) and all sorts of other
nasty things.  It isn't as simple as "copying GS/OS out and copying
ProDOS-8 in".

There might be a very slim chance that P8 would work if interrupts
were locked out the whole time, but that would prevent you from using
ProTERM.
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From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: uEmacs mail script
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:03:06 GMT

In article <3483@carroll1.cc.edu> sander@carroll1.cc.edu (Scott Anderson) writes:
>
>uEmacs!  I have to learn it?  @!#$!$%@^
>When one learns vi first, they don't want to learn another editor.
>Can I set an option to have it use stevie instead?

     Nope, the script shields you from much of the strangeness of the
default uemacs key bindings and settings.  This is a script file which
turns uemacs into an offline mail reader.  I might be able to port it to
AppleWriter 2.1 or PageWriter GS, but definitely not stevie.

>Besides, elm is the standard... ;-)

    Port it to GNO, and we'll talk.  :)
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From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: uEmacs + GNO
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:41:48 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


	What's the auxtype necessary for uEmacs to run with GNO? I had it on
my older version of uEmacs, but when I installed 3.11 I deleted the old
uEmacs, and lost the auxtype.
	Thanks.
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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Machine language forking
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC  CANADA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:53:10 GMT


I'm having problems -- crashy problems with creating a child process.
Consider this code fragment:

        fork    #process
        sta     pid1
loop34  wait    #0
        brk     0
        case    on
        cmp     pid1
        bne     loop34
        brl     bigbig

It's almost identical to the code in script.asm, so it should work!

It's supposed to create a process and wait until the child exits.

It crashes sometime after the child quits and sometime before the brk
statement in the above code. I know that it crashed after the child has
died because GNO Snooper says the child does not exist at the time of the
crash.

Just in case it's relevant, the child starts, bla, bla, and so on, and
exits via

          lda #0
          clc
          rtl

That's how the children in the script source code die too, so that should
be all right.

It's probably some kind of stack corruption because the crash happens in
bank 0. Anyways, I don't know.

If I'm doing something wrong, please tell me. Thanks.

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From: meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: [1] + Stopped (tty input)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:52:12 GMT

In article <By1C80.5t0@CAM.ORG> vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
>That program I posted a while ago that forks a process and crashes when that
>process finishes -- well, I got it working. Turns out I was doing something
>that seems legal, but causes a crash much later.
>

Cool, I'll hold up on looking at your code then.

>But I have another problem now: After the child process dies, the main program
>reads from Standard Input, and I get a [1] + Stopped (tty input)
>
>There are two reasons why this should not occur:
>
>1. It's running in the foreground. Why stop a foreground process because it
>   wants to read from Stamdard in?
>2. Standard input under normal circumstances (I run it from the console to
>   debug but it's supposed to run off the modem port) is the modem port. Hey!
>   I'd like to read from the modem port, please!
>
>Something weird: the child process itself runs a child process: gsh, and resumeswhen gsh quits. If I remove the code to run gsh (thus making the program pretty
>useless, but still :)) it never mentions [1] + Stopped (tty input)
>
>Because of this, it seems as though gsh somehow changes the environment of its
>parent process. Under no circumstances should a child be able to do that!
>
>Jawaid, you suggested creating a new process group, but (1) I don't see how thatwould help, and (2) How would that be done anyway?
>



when you get a stopped (tty input), in means a process not belonging to 
foreground process group is trying to read input from the console. This
is protection to keep two programs from both trying to simultaneously
trying to read from the same input stream (standard input, in this case).

I suspect that your forked process is starting a 'gsh', but your main
process controls the tty. what you need to do is give your forked
process (which exeve's gsh) access to the tty by adding it to the process
group.

This is quite simple to do, since I already did it in the scriupt.asm
you were using as a base. You'll want to duplicate all the process group
calls in script.asm and use them in your program. The process group
call are calls such as tcnewgroup and similar...just find where they're
called in script.asm and use them in a similar or identical manner
in your program. when you do this, your process will join the process
group and will be able to legally use the standard i/o.

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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: uEmacs + GNO
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:07:56 GMT

Gregory Ross Thompson <gregt+@CMU.EDU> writes:

>  I assume you meant "how do you...".  Well, since '$' is a special

Yes I did mean how do you :)

>character for the shell, you have to escape it with a '\'.

>  Should chtyp like "-l exec"?  What's -l?  Again, I wrote that one,
>and I sure don't remember -l being a valid flag.  -t sets the type, so
>-t exe should work, but not exec, since exec isn't a real filetype...

-l sets the language. It can be used instead of -t and -a.
exec is a valid language. "-l pascal" or "-l asm65816" both work

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From: Matt Ackeret <unknown@apple.com>
Subject: Re: sciibin compiled under GNO?
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:44:58 GMT
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 10:46:29 GMT
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Organization: Apple

In article <bazyar.721886684@teal> Jawaid Bazyar, bazyar@teal.csn.org
writes:
>  GNO comes with 'sscii', the shell version of GScii+.

damn, I saw SSCII, but thought it was the binscii encoder, not decoder.
ohwell.
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From: lucifer@world.std.com (Kevin S Green)
Subject: Re: GSI is quite nice! One question...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:31:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.145132.9337@cpu.com> gwlester@cpu.com writes:

|>Other than the garbage character problem, GSI works like a 
|>charm. Jawaid: pip-pip ol' boy...good show and all that.
|>-- 
|>Kevin S. Green / lucifer@world.std.com / {xylogics;uunet}!world!lucifer
|>               /America Online: Gargoth

|	Reverse video question marks around all of your input characters,
|right?   (I got them also)
|

Yep. Inverse video '?'s. I guess I could have been more 
specific when I posted.
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Kevin S. Green / lucifer@world.std.com / {xylogics;uunet}!world!lucifer
               /America Online: Gargoth