From: hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Let's start CFV for fj.os.386bsd! (Re: [Proposal] fj.{unix, os}.386bsd)
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:39:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo


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  From: tetsu@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (UEHARA Tetsu=TaLow)
  Message-ID: <TETSU.92Sep13223055@loafer.kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
>$B>e86(J@$B5~Bg>pJs$G$9!#(J
>In article <FUJIMOTO.92Sep13181544@msa.is.titech.ac.jp> 
>fujimoto@titisna.is.tiech.ac.jp (Fujimoto Kou (phone 4131)) writes:
> >$B8D?ME*$K$O(JCFA$B$G$$$$$s$8$c$J$$!)$H;W$C$F$^$9$,!"$^$"(JCFA$B=P$7$F$b(J
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>$B$3$l$O(Jfj.os.pc-unix$B;Y;}<T$rBeI=$7$F$N$*4j$$$G$9!#(JCFV$B$K$7$F2<$5$$!#(J

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  Subject: [CFA] fj.os.386bsd
  Message-ID: <3094@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>

  Subject: [Proposal] fj.os.pc-unix
  Message-ID: <3095@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>

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  From: tetsu@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (UEHARA Tetsu=TaLow)
  Message-ID: <TETSU.92Sep14032556@loafer.kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
>$B>e86$G$9!#(J
>In article <1992Sep13.163516.11825@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp> 
>kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Sinji Kono) writes:
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> >$B=>$C$F$"$s$1!]$H$N7k2L$+$i(J
> >       fj.os.386bsd   CFA  by kanno
> >       fj.os.pc-unix  CFV  by tetsu
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            _      .---    KANNO HIDEO     kanno@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp 
  _________/ |__--'@/      Dept. of Biophysics & Biochemistry, Univ. of Tokyo
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