HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: johng@informix.com (John Galloway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hw,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Anyone using a V.35 interface on a Mac?
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:11:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Galloway Research
Originator: johng@godzilla

I noticed the price list now includes a V.35 serial cable.  Since such
is typicall used for higher speed devices (like 56K/T1 csu/dsu setups) I
was wondering how well such is working with the Mac's (somewhat unique)
serial ports.
	-jrg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
From: sdm7g@aemsun.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski)
Subject: Edit Headers option in Eudora ( was: Re: return receipt )
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Summary: YES - Edit Headers capability is needed.
Keywords: Eudora, POP, RFC822, mail headers
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:03:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.191647.6994@Synopsys.Com> wyle@synopsys.com (Mitch Wyle) writes:
>
>In addition to using the shell and my editor (vi) on UNIX to compose and
>send messages, I also use mush/zmail to read mail.  Recently, I tried
>Eudora for a few hundred messages (i.e. 2 hours).  Eudora is comfortable
>and if I tell her to queue up replies and not bother me by polling (ugh!)
>every few minutes, it is eminently usable; good job, Steve!
>
>However, I *really* want to edit headers.  I sometimes add Errors-To:
>lines and an occasional Return-Receipt-To: line.  Being able to
>edit headers is very important to me.  I feel crippled in most UAs.
>Mail headers are just text!  Why add the silly complexity of having
>``headers'' separate from a text message?  I understand that the envelope
>is separate and I don't want the UA to give me control over the way it
>calls the MTA or passes envelope info.
>
>If I think the recipient will understand, I'll occasionally add a
>
>X-Vote-For: Dave Barry for president!
>
>Put an ``edit headers'' option in Eudora, please.
>

I've only started using Eudora, so forgive me if that feature is burried in
the (yet) unread manual, but YES, I think an edit headers option is important. 

One reason I was looking at Eudora is that I want an easier to use mail 
interface for the folks in the front office who could care less about 
learning unix. But those are the very ones who DO have to learn something 
about not just CC: but how to set the From:,Sender:,Reply-To:,Error-To: 
fields correctly when they are sending an email message for the department
chair who is out of town so somebody else in the department should also 
get replies, etc. 

So - an easy way to edit headers would be nice.
A good way to verify or keep them from accidently mangling headers would
be even better! Maybe 'style' sheets for mail headers ? 

>There is a famous mail message that floats around the internet, and
>resembles something like:
> [ Classic example deleted!  I loved it! ]


======== "If you have a hammer, find a nail" - George Bush,'91  =========
 Steven D. Majewski		University of Virginia Physiology Dept.
 sdm7g@Virginia.EDU		Box 449 Health Sciences Center
 Voice: (804)-982-0831/32	1300 Jefferson Park Avenue
 FAX:   (804)-982-1616		Charlottesville, VA 22908
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Different terminal emulations??
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:30:27 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

I need to learn more about terminal emulators, in particular details about what
the differences are between terminal types, particularly VT220, VT320 and
VT420?

Can anyone point me to source materials, or to the correct newsgroup?

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Medical College of Wisconsin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
From: sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Re: return receipt
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:21:40 GMT

dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) writes:
>The advantages to the sendmail approach are
>[1] It's difficult for the recipient to subvert the
>    receipt process (i.e. prevent the receipt from being returned to
>     the sender).
>[2] If the recipient later claims that the mail was never
>    received, the sender can point to the fact that it _was_ delivered

Ah, now I understand.  Good points, both.

>What I
>might do, is implement both - uupc would send back a "delivery receipt"
>when the message is delivered locally, and Fernmail would pop up an
>"auto-reply" window when the user read the message.

I *like* this plan.  I *like* it a lot.
-- 
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
Yes, I'm still working on Eudora and it's still free.
From: msi@ESD.3Com.COM (Mark Isfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: How much for MacSLIPs?
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:32:02 GMT

howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth) writes:


>   I already have MacX and just need a MacTCP SLIP driver for connecting to
>a SLIP line. What are the alternatives and which works best with MacX? I
>just want the driver and not a complete telecommunications package (I
>already own Microphone II v4.0). Supposedly Versaterm has one; can I just
>buy the driver? How much and are there academic discounts (like anyone 
>outside of academics would probably be using it... :) )
>           Jack

For my personal setup, Versaterm Slip is better than MacSlip.  File transfers
are 10-20%faster (downloads FTP), and MacX is visibly more responsive.
Of course your mileage may vary due to modem, computer, and slip server 
differences.  MacSlip has much better scripting and is cheaper.  I have
not tried Intercon-slip (is this shipping as a seperate product?).





***Here is some information About Slip.  Most of it is from previous
messages that were sent to comp.sys.mac.comm.  I resend them without
permission, with added comments where I have additional input.
Such comments are preceeded with stars like this paragraph.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Old Kinetics "LANRANGER" software
From: jenner@post.ntu.edu.au (Bob Jenner)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:54:48 +0900
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
Organization: NTU

In article <wbaker.6@sd-wbaker.jsc.nasa.gov>, wbaker@sd-wbaker.jsc.nasa.gov
(Bill Baker) wrote:
> 
> I purchased a FASTPATH-4 when it was being sold by Kinetics Inc.  At that
> time they provided a floppy with not only the FASTPATH Manager software
> but also a package called LANRANGER.  I had installed LANRANGER on our MAC
> for sometime and used it regularly.  I recently upgraded from 6.0.3 to
> 6.0.7 MAC/OS and found that the LANRANGER was asking that I reinstall or
> update the software.  They provide an update program, but it calls for an
> offset which I suspect will also be required when I try to reinstall the
> product.  Anyone have the offsets (formal Kinetics Engineers????) for this
> LANRANGER product.
> 
> Please note that I have already called SHIVA, and they don't even know what
> the LANRANGER product is, and keep getting it confused with their new
> LAN-ROVER product.  I really liked the LANRANGER product because it gave a
> very nice graphical representation of the Network topology.
> 
> Bill Baker
> NASA/JSC

I wish you luck. I have tried to get the offset number without success in
the past. I did have it working once upon a time on an SE but have since
moved up the scale..pity, it's a useful piece of software..maybe that's
part of the reason Kinetics is no longer around.

Cheers
Bob Jenner
Northern Territory University
Darwin, Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Earl D. Fife <fife@calvin.edu>
Subject: Problem with MacSLIP and Eudora
X-Xxdate: Mon, 31 Aug 92 09:12:39 GMT
Organization: Calvin College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:12:04 GMT

When I am at home, I call up our computing system with MacSLIP so that I 
use ftp-based packages.  If I start up MacSLIP with Eudora already running
(configured so that it doesn't check the mail without my asking), it will
run alright that time, but if I hang up and later try MacSLIP, I get the
error that "MacTCP bootP failed."

Has anyone else experienced this, or similar, problems?  Any ideas what 
the problem is, what causes it, and what needs to be reset?

Thank you, in advance for assistance.

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Earl D. Fife          |          Department of Mathematics
fife@calvin.edu       |          Calvin College
(616)957-6403         |          Grand Rapids, MI 49546

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Source for Quadra to Thicknet Ethernet Transceiver Cable
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:07:28 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1992Aug27.144542.275@noao.edu>, peralta@noao.edu (Michael
Peralta) wrote:
> Is there an adaptor cable that goes from the Quadra ethernet port directly 
> to a AUI type DB15 connector? MacWarehouse told me I needed two different
> adapter cables totalling $178.00. For that much I can buy an Ethernet card.
> There has got to be an easier way.  

Mike-

I suspect MacWarehouse wanted to sell you what they had.

The adapters Apple supplies are single items, although the AUI DB15 is in
at least two pieces.  It is the largest of the group, and requires a
separate power module!  When you see it, you may prefer to go ahead and buy
a separate card.

The following is Apple's nomenclature for three adapters for the Quadra:

Apple Ethernet Thin Coax Transceiver order No. M0329LL/A

Apple Ethernet AUI Adapter order No. M0432LL/A

Apple Ethernet Twisted-Pair Transceiver order No. M0437LL/A


fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: josteisv@dhhalden.no (JOSTEIN SVENDSEN)
Subject: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:43:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.233127.7322@massey.ac.nz> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

>What options are there for Macs, I have seen HERMES and some of
>the mail about it but there must be other options.

>A friend said that there are about half a dozen different
>programs, but which is best ?

The best BBS software available for the Macintosh community is without any 
doubt FirstClass BBS system. It has full graphical "Mac-like" interface, 
multiuser, multilines, supporting both graphical and text-based access to 
the BBS. It also have some capabilities which is "just beautiful" and 
unknown to me on other BBS systems. In version 2 of FirstClass (just 
released) you can read and write messages, up AND download files, chat with 
other people ALL ON THE SAME TIME!!!

FirstClass also support formatted messages (with layout!) and files are 
attached to the messages describing the files.

I was the Sysop on MacOnline Norway before I started studying computer 
science, and I hav nothing but positive things to tell about the FirstClass 
system.

I agree with the largest computermagazine in Norway (among others) which 
called the BBS-system "The best in the world!".

Good luck!

Jostein :-)

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| Jostein Svendsen             |                                     |
| <josteisv@sofus.dhhalden.no> |  *** Quicktime on the Macintosh *** |
| Ostfold Regional College     |  The  ultimate multimedia adventure |
| Halden, Norway               |                                     |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: Re: where to find Re: Mac UUCP (?)
Keywords: uupc, uucp, mac, archive, pd, shareware, wow
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:12:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.053549.28031@terminator.cc.umich.edu> dauter@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.101606.1770@darkstar.com> jp@darkstar.com writes:
>>
>>What PD/Shareware/commercial packages are available for me to get a UUCP  
>>connection working on a Macintosh? Mail is enough for starters, but any  
>>advice on newsfeeds would be appreciated as well.
>
>  
>checking the index file on >>>> MAC.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU <<<<, which is
>available for you to retrieve in our mac/00help directory as the
>"index.txt" file, we find this gem:
>
> CO/UUPC         191     7/23/92    BinHex4.0,Compact1.33
> /mac/util/comm/uupc3.0.cpt.hqx

should mention that uupc 3.0 is darn near unusuable unless you also
get Fernmail. It's available on sumex-aim.stanford.edu and mirrors of
that site. Don't know if it's at umich.




-- 
scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- Stuart M. Castergine
Fiver: "Oh, Hazel, look! The field! It's covered with blood!"
Hazel: "Don't be silly, it's only the light of the sunset." -- Watership Down
From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Faster LocalTalk ...HOW? Localswitch?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 09:05:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

edwards@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Edwards) writes:

>How do I make my LocalTalk lan go faster without making the conversion to
>Enet? I am looking at LocalSwitch by Tribe Computer Works [...] They are
>the Mac in our graphic arts department and are starting to handle more and
>more large scans.

Keeping these people on LocalTalk is cruel and unusual. No smiley.

Ethernet is not that expensive any more. You're posting from an educational
site so you probably qualify for educational discounts, which further
reduce the per-node price for Ethernet.

The LocalSwitch is a very useful little box if you have lots of
peer-to-peer traffic, or want to use it as a master LT hub.

>If I do have to go to Enet what is the best route to go hardware wise and
>how do you bridge a Enet with a LocalTalk net?

You have not really provided enough information to recommend a "best way to
go". 10BASE-T, aka Ethernet over unshielded twisted pair wiring, is
generally the most inexpensive approach. You will need cards that support
10bT (not difficult to find) and a hub that does as well (not a problem
either). Be warned that you cannot daisy-chain 10bT the way you can
LocalTalk; you must use a hub.

Hope this helps.

__________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi            puzzle-piece together-putter            MacUser
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@tmc.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: How do you use ARA script "ask" command?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-16865]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C784DAB8013009@mandel.anes.tulane.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:12:10 GMT
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:12:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.162112.9558@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Roger Wilsen,
rwilsen@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:
>Hi! Does anyone out there know the correct syntax and usage of the "ask"
>command available in the ARA scripting language (The one used by the
>MNPLink Tool)?

From the Appletalk Remote Access Toolkit (APDA R0129LL/B):

ASK maskflag "message"

maskflag: if 1, mask input with dots; if 0, echo input
Message: Text placed in dialog box

The result of ASK is available in ^*

Example:

ASK 1 "Say the secret word and win a prize"
WRITE ^*\13

This sends the string returned by ASK followed by a carraige return.

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman)
Subject: Re: Old Kinetics "LANRANGER" software
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:35:51 GMT

> I wish you luck. I have tried to get the offset number without
> success in the past. I did have it working once upon a time on an SE
> but have since moved up the scale..pity, it's a useful piece of
> software..maybe that's part of the reason Kinetics is no longer
> around.

Howdy-
  I sent this info to the original poster, but maybe it will be useful
to others.  First, LanRanger is one of the few parts of the FP line
which was not sold to Shiva.  As a result, you have to call Novell to
find anything about it.  When I did about a year ago, there were no
real plans to upgrade the software.  An upgrade is certainly in order
though, since it does not support Phase II or the Mac IIfx (and I
shudder to think about System 7/Quadra/PB compatibility).

The offset number (from a very fuzzy memory of talking to a tech) is
as two digit multiple of 10 number.  Just for yuks I tried to make my
copy work on an ethernet IIx and succeeded with the number 30 (the program
booted, but didn't see anything since we are a Phase II shop only). 

Hope this helps!
        Peace,
           dNb
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From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Looking for Unix-like TCP library for Think C 5.0
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:34:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BtpL1B.GJ8.1
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon

mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
>I have a Mac IIci, Sys. 7, Asante ethercard, which I need to have communicate
>with a Sun3 or Sun4 via the campus ethernet from within a program I am
>currently writing.  The Mac has MacTCP 1.0.  I'd like to have this 
>communication done using sockets & standard TCP/IP protocol...

(I go on to ask whether there are Unix-like socket routines for the Mac)

If it's relevant to the answer, I meant MacTCP 1.1, not 1.0.  Sorry 'bout
that.


-- 
Matt Gertz, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.
From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ?Wanted: Description of XModem & similar protocols
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:47:50 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <92239.220317CHARLESW@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> (comp.sys.mac.comm), <CHARLESW@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
| Could someone please point me to a description of XModem or YModem or other
| similar protocol?  Thanks.
| 
| .../dave   Dave Charlesworth

There are descriptions on America OnLine in the Mac Comm forum libraries
(Go Keyword: MCM). I also believe these same files can be found on CompuServe
in the MacComm forum (GO: MACCOMM) and probably various PC forums as well.

If you go up on America OnLine you can find the files quickly by using the
QuickFinder (Go Keyword: QuickFinder) and using the search word "XMODEM".
That will turn up both the YMODEM and XMODEM specifications. If you use
the search word "ZMODEM" (in a separate search) you'll also find the
ZMODEM specification as well.

--Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: crawford@aerospace.aero.org (Kirk Crawford)
Subject: 3 wire Serial Cable
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:50:44 GMT

I have a serial cable that goes from an IBM-PC 9 pin port to a storage
Tachometer.  The Tachometer end is actually a 1/4" stereo plug.  I beeped
out the cable and found the existing wiring to be:

STEREO                IBM-PC 9Pin
TIP---------------------2 Rx
MID---------------------3 Tx
Base (Ground)-----------5 Gnd

                     +--1 CD
                     |--4 DTR     All three of these are connected together
                     +--6 DSR

                     +--7 RTS
                     +--8 CTS     These two are also connected together.

My question is, what would be the proper cable for the Stero jack to a Mac
8 pin connector?

I think it should be:
STEREO                Mac 8 Pin
TIP---------------------5 Rx -
MID---------------------3 Tx -
Base (Ground)--------+--4 Gnd     (4, 6, and 8 are connected together)
                     |
                     +--6 Tx +
                     |
                     +--8 Rx +

                     +--1 HsKo(The two handshake lines are connected
together)
                     |
                     +--2 HsKi / Ext Clock

Is this correct?  Do you see any problems with this?
I am writing the program that will use this cable.  Are there going to be
any special settings I need to make on the serial port to use this cable? 
(it has no handshaking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: spenderg@world.std.com (Stephen L Pendergast)
Subject: Telnet, MacTCP, and Quadra System 7.0.1 (Q)
Summary: What do I need to make it work
Keywords: MacTCP FTP Telnet Quadra
Reply-To: penderga@hac2arpa.hac.COM
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co GSG
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:29:22 GMT

I have been happily using NCSA Telnet 2.4.12, MacTCP 1.0, Fetch 2.0.6 on a 
Mac II with System 6.0.8. Now in order to get more processing power, I am
forced to deal with the dreaded compatibility problems of a Quadra and 
System 7.0.1. I have tried installing on the Quadra, and can telnet one
session at a time. As soon as I try to FTP using Fetch or Telnet, the system
immediately bombs. Can some kind net-soul enlighten me as to the appropriate
system and application software configuration for this. I got the Alsys
compatibility fix for the cache, but that doesn't seem to fix it.

Thank you for your consideration,
Steve
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Ground Systems Group, PO Box 3310 Bldg 604/MS B152, Fullerton, CA 92634
Voice: (714)732-2579  Personal - No Company/Official Responsibility
Email: penderga@hac2arpa.hac.com           Fax: (714)732-0242
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: 2 LINER: Where can I ftp MacTCP1.1 from?!
Keywords: MACTCP FTP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:21:48 GMT

MacTCP (including 1.1) is a liscensed Apple System Product and is not free.
Last I checked it was $195 a copy.  Some sites (like the University of Illinois
where I work) have negotiated a blanket campus site liscense.  you may wish to
check with your academic computing service department at Harvard to see if
they have such an agreement and to verify its terms.  THEN if they don't
have one, maybe your Apple Rep can get you an educational discount.

eric@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Eric Hansen) writes:

>I've tried unsuccessfully to anonymously ftp MacTCP 1.1 from half a dozen or
>so sites references by the Rutgers archie server.  Where can I get this!!!???
>   (ok, three or four lines...)
>The "ftp.apple.com" site doesn't respond to my ftp, and I can't for the life
>of me figure out how to get this CP.  Is it copyrighted?  Can someone
>binhex it and mail it to me?  I have the old version and sys 7.0.1 -- a no-no
>(and hence, it doesn't work).

>- Eric Hansen

>(thanks moucho grando)

>eric@binoc.bih.harvard.edu