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From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 777 (with Derrick May!)
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:17:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

ericp@netcom.com (Eric Pederson) writes:

>In article <168489252.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>Just heard some new stuff from 777 (CD on Caroline Records).
>> 
>>Very danceable. Steve Hillage appears here, as does Derrick May (influential
>>figure in Detroit Techno).
>> 
>>I was most impressed by the use of guitars which sound like sequenced
>>synthesizer. No doubt this is Steve Hillage's work (b*stard beat me to it! ;-)
>> 
>>Sorry but I have *no other info* at this time, but I am going to pick this
>>one up as soon as I can! I post a follow-up later.
>> 
>>Anybody else have info on this?

>After reading alt.config (I vote no by the way) I remembered this post.
>I saw the blurb about 777 in the last DMR (Dance Music Rag) and it sounds
>like System 7 is going under 777 domestically, unless DMR made an error
>which has been known to happen.  System 7 is, by the way, Steve Hillage
How can I get some info on DMR?  Is it hardcopy or is it electronic?
Thanks...

>is on Ten Records from the UK and is pretty good, IMHO.  General net consensus
>is that it's OK.  There have been a number of singles released from it including
>"Haibibi" and the most recent single (the one with Derrick May) "Altitude".
>"Altitude" was released in the UK as a double-12" single with around
>6 or so mixes.  There's some techoish mixes that sound like the
>album version and some house mixes featuring Ultra Nate.  The more heavy
>duty Orb-heads around here probably have some more info on it.

>BTW - The new Grid single came in the double-12" packaging but said
>on the back in fine print "Other single available seperately".  Weak!
From: u8802770@cs.uow.edu.au (Glenn Mark Vassallo)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Techno Music
Summary: Where can I get some? Australia
Keywords: techno music albums records
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:12:42 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia


	Techno music makes me feel real good! But I cannot seem to get
enough. So if anyone can tell me where I can score this music from in 
Wollongong or Sydney it would be great, as most Wollongong record shops
have a very limited commercial selection. Thanx heaps.

      --GLENN--      ~~~~~~(High, how are you)~~~~~
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: The Orb (Kinko's Copies)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:00:24 GMT

In <1992Sep1.214809.5524@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines) writes:
>well, you all shouldn't have had any problems with the copies at kinko's if you
>had signed a release amenity statement that states that you will be responsible

That's eventually what happened, but I had to stand there and insist
it was for my own use for about 10 minutes before anyone even suggested
that that was possible.  Now I know, so I won't have trouble in the
future, but it still was quite annoying that I was first told flat out
"no we can't do that".
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
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From: rmr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard M. Romanowski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Fun G. Bodelian
Summary: read the post
Keywords: read the post
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:52:23 GMT
Organization: UB


	Greetings :

	I seek input from anyone knowing anything about Fun G. Bodelian,
a chap of Merry-Pranksterical raves somewhere in New York State.  A
gentleman of my acquaintance has attended such a rave and I seek more
descriptions and conversation concerning the effects of certain experiments
conducted therein.

Thanks
Luck
Rick
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: The music is the drug!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:47:17 GMT

Excuse me, but what's with this drug debate?

Isn't the music supposed to be the drug? Or has this become a cliche in 
the world of E and other psychedelic flashbacks?

If you have to take drugs to like the music, well, then I'm sorry on your
behalf. To me, putting on an LFO or Model 500 record is just as ecstatic
as any unnatural stimulance.

Oivind

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* "I Piss On Your Rave!"   - Derrick May *
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From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Song ID Time...
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:13:22 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu (David Mann) writes:

>OK, sorry about this guys, but i can't find the name/group that does the
>song with the sweepy synths and _cat meows_ (of all things) over the
>synths.  (All i know is that it's not Dee-Lite)  Can anyone help?

>--
>May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.

>David_Mann@ncsu.edu

could it be The Prodigy's "Charly (Alley Cat Mix)"?
-r.



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From: "steve campbell" <steve.campbell@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: das boot
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:34:51 EST
Reply-To: "steve campbell" <steve.campbell@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

MW>Is the techno track 'Das Boot' be bought on CD single? Is it import??

I know that the song appears twice on the CD titled _Das Boot_ with the
album mix and a remix.

Sincerely,
Steve.Campbell@canrem.com
Ottawa, Canada
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From: Scott_Velez@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Velez)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: rave alert! (Vancouver, BC)
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:45:41 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

                         L.I.F.E Productions
                       from San Diego presents


                        LAND OF THE PHARAOH'S
                        ---------------------

                     Saturday August 29th, 1992
                       in Vancouver, BC Canada

       Culminate your summer with an event that will bring you
     back 5000 years to the beginning of civilization. You body
     will be cleansed by the soul sounds of deep house, tribal,
              and high-energy techno delivered by DJ's

                       Jon Bishop (San Diego)
                          Doc Martin (L.A.)
                     Special Guests (Vancouver)

                         Message Therapy by
                              Cleopatra

For ticket information, call (604) 893-0452 or (206) 758-9650


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From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Ancient Superb Techno
Summary: What Ever Happened To ... ?
Keywords: Castro Space
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:36:52 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

I have a magnificent ancient techno cd (1991!) by a couple of fellows
called T-Bone Castro and Ace the Space called Ace in the Hole. The BPM
is not quite up to modern standards, but the samples and rhythms are so
hard that it doesn't matter. The stuff stands up against Strakker
Humanoid. Credits are:

"All Trax by Acardipane/Slam Burt
 Engineered by W. Oliviera
 Produced by Castro Bros. Mgmt.
 Executive Producas:
 Planet Core Productions
 A Dance Ecstasy 2001 Release
 Published by Inter Euro Music
 Distributed by AMV Germany
 Graffikkas by King Arthur
 And Magic J
 Gema
 LC
 C + P PCP 012CD 1991"

No kidding this thing goes off like nothing else I've ever heard. Does
anyone know what happened to these guys and esp. whether they ever did
anything else?

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From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (god in three persons)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:13:38 GMT
Organization: We Take What We Want, Inc.

In article <1992Aug25.140421.4511@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug25.070111@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (if
>   you love your art, die for it) writes:
>
>>Sell what you've got and buy a MAC. 
>
>Now I dissagree.  You mentioned how high price the investment in your 
[...]
>I'm not downing on the Mac, because it is the choice MIDI computer for 
>professional applications, but this doesn't meant that it is the only 
>computer for MIDI.
>
>Gil "digital druid" cyberpun(k)

I'm sorry! I've been using an amiga running Dr T's KCS for the longest
time and then only recently have I started to use Vision v1.0 on the MAC..
I fell in love with it.. it's a dream... 

your sequencer doesn't matter much; it's what you put into it.

Vision is, however the de facto standard for dance music; you can do lots 
of things with drawing duration and velocity ramps/curves and get serious
production value out of it.

 -- John
From: young@ursa.UUCP (Eric Youngblood)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: utah saints video
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:44:02 GMT
Organization: wouldn't you like to know...
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

v106lr4h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric T Sasse) writes:
: In article <1992Aug17.060717.2785@wam.umd.edu>, cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes...
: > 
: >  Since I was home this sunday night, I was up to watch 120 mins. on MTV.
: >It's not where I learn about new music, but it's stil fun (and will
: >someone tell dave  kendal to get a clue!@!!!!)  but they had the video
: >for "Something Good" by The Utah Saints.  It was pretty good...basically
: >a few onstage shots (they were playing real bass and guitar?  where is that
: >in the music), sped up car going through traffic with colors like the album
: >cover, and a few shots of Kate Bush (I think???) with some machine.
: 
:    Huh man? My album cover dosen't have this, it has two guys in some computer
: induced color play. How many songs on YOUR album anyway?
: 
: >Did anyone else catch this?
: 
:    I've seen the video almost two months ago on the British MTV-like channel
: "Super Channel" (I think it's called), and it is of course Kate Bush in the 
: video, after all it is her being sampled. The shots of her are bits of her 
: video "Cloudbusting" from which song "I just know that something good is gonna 
: happen" comes, the machine you refer to is a rainmaking machine since the whole
: song is about a little girl's memory of her father actually making rain, mind
                         ^^^^

Little boy, actually ... yes it's Kate Bush, but she plays the scientist's son.
Hence the haircut...
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: The music is the drug!
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:33:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1992Aug29.203332.17633
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <16851DF27.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>The way to have fun is to have a "natural" drug induced "experience"
>so intense that you will never remember it, and ten years later you'll
>be a babbling mental cripple suffering from bad acid flashbacks.

Good to see that you're as ignorant as ever on some topics, Eric.

I think it's worth mentioning that I have never had an "experience so
intense that I'll never remember it" except on Alcohol, and that wasn't
intense it was just numbing.  And that flashbacks are almost as mythological
as Strychnine in blotter acid.
-- 
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  It should never be forgotten that during all the time we were studying bats,
                   bats had a unique opportunity to study us.
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Anyone go to THE FINAL CALL: How was it?
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:39:56 GMT
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Something fatal.

Damn, I think I'd just kinda take that last letter personal.

Parallel Universe.  The lights sorta boned out on us.  We finally managed
to scrounge up a SuperMoon.  It wasn't my fault.  The sound system was ex-
cellent.  So nice of you to mention that.  What about the DJ lineup, hmm?

Candyland.  Well, the sounds weren't THAT good....everything else was killer,
but there were too many people who went to Quik that weekend.  Otherwise it
would have been insane.

Harmony.  HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WOULDN'T LET
ME DRILL INTO THE GROUND?  They told me the day of the party when the damn
tent showed up.  The fact that it was raining and that cooled people, and
the bungee jumping, and the location, and the concessions, and the DJ lineup
etcetcetc.  EVERYONE I talked to had fun.

Then you went off and said that allt he parties are the same.  IS BUNGEE
JUMPING THE SAME?

Why don't you just drop the attitude and have a good time.  I **REMEMBER** you.
You were the guy who kept chasing me around asking to put up lights.  You 
finally at 1 point (if I remember correctly) gave me some help and I thought
you were a fairly nice human being.  If you've gotta have an attitude like that
then you can go screw.  Why don't you plan a party and see if it all clicks...
even if it's all out on paper???

**LISTEN** to the music **TALK** to the people **DO** whatever you want and
try to enjoy your pitiful yuppie self.

"All the clubs have lasers..."  yeah right whatever.  "Nothing is original..."
Well, shit if you're only willing to pay 10 bucks and people bitch about 12
bones and nobody can be sure whether DJ YAYO is going to throw a party against
you at the last minute, frankly, at this point, I don't know whether it's worth
the risk to do something special.

I know I have something in the works which I think will make this scene a 
helluva lot better...and this guy isn't invited.

Seeya.

JD/Purex
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:42:35 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

> So you can't scratch.  Big deal.   

Just to clarify -- no disrespect intended to hip-hop DJs.  My mindset's
more techno-oriented, as I figure's the case for most people here.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: What's all this REC. ALT. talk about anyway???
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)

In article <1992Aug27.180647.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au>  
edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
> I apologize if there is a diff. between alt. groups and rec. groups, but  
still
> I can't see the advantage in having two groups.

Some usenet sites don't have the alt groups, either from categorically  
censoring them, or because of disk space.  rec groups are more common.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: LSD The facts!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 02:43:19 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

THE FACTS.

I don't have this thing referenced, I don't have anywhere near the time...

LSD does not cause any chronic physiological or neurological damage. period.

LSD does not produce a psychotic state.  LSD is not a psychotomimetic
drug in the literal use of the word.  I've experienced true drug psychosis
before, and LSD just ain't close...

LSD may produce chronic visual "tracers" -- probably as a result of receptor
changes in the sensory pathways of the brain.  This is not damage.  Some
people have these naturally, particularly in the morning.  I've gotten
them from prescription drugs, which caused this and enhanced my vision at
the same time (QED, I'm not complaining...).

LSD may cause mild "flashbacks" (IMHO a misuse of the word) which is really
just state-dependent learning.  Users sometimes can get themselves into a
slightly shifted perspective when a stimulus is similar to one experienced
while on LSD, or if one is familiar enough with the LSD state they can
sometimes create this mild perspective shift themself.

LSD may produce thick chronic visual "tracers" which interfere with vision.
This is very rare, and is not "damage" per se since it is reversible with
drug therapy (probably neuroleptics, but I'm not positive).  Most users if
they report anything report the benign type.

LSD may produce a sydrome resembling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.  This
is due to a massively bad trip...  Here is where you get your honest-to-god
flashbacks from.  Its also not very common.

LSD may produce a schizophrenic break in someone already suscpetible to
schizophrenia, again due to the psychological trauma of an extraordinarly
bad trip.  This, however, is a case of "if it didn't happen on LSD, it 
would've happened at some point".

The frequency of the above three chronic effects is less than 2:1000 which
is about the same as the *normal* frequency of schizophrenia in the 
population.  Conclusion:  normal people that drop LSD remain normal people,
people with schizophrenic tendencies or other psychological disorders get
more fucked up.  And I bet the guy who was distributing that pamphlet on the
evils of LSD probably had a schizophrenic break which is why he was so
damn concerned with it changing your personality...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: My "Dream" Ravey Music Mix
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:13:44 GMT

In article <5202@tuegate.tue.nl>, renew@blade (Rene Walter) writes:
> 
> chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson) writes:
> 
> : Can someone explain to me why so many people think the group is called
> : Stakker and the song "Humanoid" when it's in fact the other way round?
> : I have the record (both the 1st and the 2nd release) and unless you're
> : an illiterate it's impossible to get it wrong. 
> 
> Because the group is called "Stakker Humanoid" and the tune is called
> "Humanoid". Now don't say anything more about it, because you just got to
> check out the new *8* track remix 12" and the label states the right answer
> (or so I think), and I've got it!!! with nice FSOL remixes (surprising???).

Right.  So what about all the other tracks this group made?  Are you saying
that they were all called "Humanoid" and that the group changed its name
for every new song?  :-/

As for the 8 track 12", yeah, I got it about a month ago.  It says 
"STAKKER HUMANOID, composed by Brian Dougan".

- chris@kuling.docs.uu.se
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From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: My "Dream" Ravey Music Mix
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:08:33 GMT
Organization: Disorganization

In article <5202@tuegate.tue.nl>, renew@blade (Rene Walter) writes:
> chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson) writes:
> : Can someone explain to me why so many people think the group is called
> : Stakker and the song "Humanoid" when it's in fact the other way round?
> Because the group is called "Stakker Humanoid" and the tune is called
> "Humanoid". Now don't say anything more about it, because you just got to
> check out the new *8* track remix 12" and the label states the right answer
> (or so I think), and I've got it!!!

Time for this thread again, which always ends up in a "yes it is, no it isn't"
war, apparently between people who can read and those who can't.  Fortunately
I learned to read quite awhile back, so I can join the ranks of those people
who say the artist is called "Humanoid" and the track is "Stakker Humanoid".
I'll repeat that for the hard of thinking: the artist is called "Humanoid"
and the track is "Stakker Humanoid".

I can prove this claim most easily by pointing to the album released by
Humanoid.  Or at least I could if I owned it, which I don't.  But it exists.
Besides, I know of at least two other Humanoid tracks: "Cry Baby" (which I
own) and "Slam", both of which are by the artist Humanoid, the same one who
did the track called "Stakker Humanoid".  One more time then: the track
"Stakker Humanoid" is by the artist Humanoid.

The new remixes (new versions, really) are good but I still prefer the
original.  Oh well, we now have the FSOL so I shouldn't complain.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: 808 State: Newbuild (was: Techno albums out?)
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:34:38 GMT

In article <athnt5n@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> Creed Records.  I think you're confusing _Newbuild_ with the Hit Squad
> Manchester singles -- which I haven't seen, but which seem to be an 808-
> driven project from before _Newbuild._  The first HSM single was on
> Eastern Bloc Records, which mutated into Creed; Eastern Bloc is the 808-
> owned (is it Massey or someone else?) Manchester record shop.

It was owned by Martin Price who left 808 last year.  I don't know if it's
still in his possession...

[Quadrastate]
> It clocks in at just under half an hour, so it's hard for me to think of
> it as a full-fledged album.  Mini-LP, maybe.

They put it out as an LP.  I remember seeing it in the album charts.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Subject: Re: The Final Call: wack? was Re: rave new world
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:00:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.220526.11279@sal.wisc.edu>, rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes:
|> In article <9208251616.AA11821@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Pisano) writes:
|> >I'm planning to go to THE FINAL CALL in Chicago (3-day thang).
|> >
|> >Any word on that one: $20.00 for 3 days !!! Whatta Deal! I'm ready for an all 
|> >out, all-outdoors, opening doors Xperience.
|> 
|> The 3-day, camping concept sounds pretty great, and I was tempted. But 
|> I don't think I'll go because a couple things seem fishy to me:
|> 
|> The organization "Angels of Something-Or-Other-With-Christian-Overtones" 
|> is doing it as a fundraiser? And tickets are on sale at Ticketmaster 
|> outlets? The fellow on the (expensive) flyer with the flute looks 
|> pretty un-ravey.  I fear there might be more weird propaganda than music...
|> 
|> DJ Nick Nice's name was put on the flyer without his knowledge or prior
|> consent. This seems like standard practice to hype up sorry events.
|> I wonder how many of the other DJs are actually playing?
|> 
|> I'm not trying to kill anyone's (gigantic) party or suggest that you 
|> not go, just that it seems kinda screwy to me and I'm wondering if 
|> others feel the same way.


Yeah, sounds fishy to me, too.  A friend of mine who helps to organize some
of the raves in the chicagoland area says that ticket sales have been
very very slow (he's not involved with this one at all, and thinks that
it's probably all a crock...).  For those who are looking for another
alternative, he suggests the technopolis thing...

tom

tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave