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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.admin
Subject: How to boot from 2nd disk with 1st installed as well?
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:41:42 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

I've added a second SCSI disk to my Indigo on which I've  installed  the
4.0.5 release. To check out the new release, I'm trying to boot from the
second disk, using the PROM monitor:

	boot -f dksc(0,2)/unix

Well, it boots, but still seems to want to use the 1st  SCSI  disk  (the
original system disk in the lowest slot) for root and /usr filesystem.

What other options do I need to `normally' boot from the 2nd disk? Where
do I find full (user) documentation of the PROM monitor? Where do I find
the full range of PROM environment variables documented?

Thanks very much for your help.

						--[ Edwin ]--

-- 
Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network manager.    [NIC-Whois handle: EHK3]
  Department of Computer Science,    Utrecht University,   The Netherlands
  Internet: Edwin.Kremer@cs.ruu.nl   NeXTmail: Edwin.Kremer@edge.cs.ruu.nl
  X.400   : G=Edwin;S=Kremer;OU=cs;O=ruu;PRMD=surf;ADMD=400net;C=nl
#! rnews 1576
From: debra@wsinis07.info.win.tue.nl (Paul De Bra)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: serious bug in cpio -i -Htar
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:33:03 GMT
Reply-To: debra@info.win.tue.nl
Followup-To: comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

In article <1993Jan7.064311.9540@kilowatt.uucp> root@kilowatt.UUCP (Kilowatt admin) writes:
>	SVR4 tar has another strange bug. Seems if when restoring files, you
>restore one file that is a link, say "a ->/a/b/c/d/e" and there is another
>link just after it called "b ->/a/b/c" tar will restore it as "b ->/a/b/c/d/e"
>This just seems to be a lack of the NULL at the end of the string, like
>someone did a memmov or memcpy(dest,src,strlen(src)); where it should be
>strlen(src)+1 to include the NULL. Sure this is not the same bug in the cpio
>code?

Probably not the same bug. The bug encountered with cpio -i does not occur
with tar x.
The bug is even more serious than i originally posted:

even when you do a 'cpio -ivt', i.e. you just want to look at what's in the
archive, cpio will *extract* the links from the archive.
so doing a cpio -ivt is *not* even a safe way to look at tar archives.


Paul.
#! rnews 2760
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP X
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:33:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price) writes:

>francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes) writes:

>>keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating ) writes:

>>>I'm planning on trying out IBM's TCP/IP product, and have some questions
..... 

>>>(3) With the X-Window System (02G6980), will it allow me to display Sun's
>>>    OpenWindows programs?

>>No problems.

>I have had problems: mailtool crashes when attempting to use my display,
>however all of the standard X stuff works, both from a Sun and an RS-6000. I
>haven't tried the SGI yet.

With me everything works except that cmdtool does not give up keyboard and 
opening options in the Sun's clock crashes the X (but not OS/2). 

>>>(4) How easy is the installation?  One hour, two, four, three days?

>>If you know what you're doing, one hour. I'm not a networking expert
>>by any means but I got it up in about an hour. It doesn't require that
>>you know all that much.

>I think this is a little optimistic. I wound up getting help from our IBM rep,
>as the straight install didn't work. I could now probably do it in an hour or
>2, but only because I've now read ALL of the readme files, and have done it
>before. The install _program_ does not complete the job, and you need to move
>some files around by hand. (as in the TCP/IP drivers.)

Worked right away for me; no major problems.

IBM TCP/IP certainly was not a mature product when it was released, but it 
matures fast (see new CSDs every month), and some components are quite good.
I have not had major problems with ftp or NFS recently, and the mail program
with built-in spelling checker is very useful. Even the news reader is
finally working, even though posting and replying is not very easy yet (this 
is in the work, the developer says).  The most troublesome
part of TCPIP was X-Windows that in the past locked, grabbed keybords, lost
focus permanently, caused system freezes. The latest version (BB02052)
seems to be stable, at last.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ignacy Misztal			E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
Urbana, IL 61801
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#! rnews 1257
From: ramesh@informix.com (Nagar Ramesh)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: Informix ON-LINE archiving
Keywords: Automatic or manual only
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:35:51 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <Jan.10.22.30.35.1993.27002@remus.rutgers.edu> lad@remus.rutgers.edu (Kamlesh) writes:
>
>	On Informix ON-LINE, is it posssible to automatically archive 
>databases.  Currently, you have to manually run tb-monitor and create
>an archive.  Is there any way to write a macro or a cron to
>automatically backup the database at a certain time?
>
>
>Can anyone suggest any utilities to provide automatic archiving?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Kamlesh
>lad@remus.rutgers.edu

hi kamlesh,

i'll leave the cron stuff up to you but the command line argument
to create an archive is tbtape -s which you can incorporate in 
a cron job.  however, you will be prompted for the level of
the archive and additional tapes to be mounted, if necessary.

hope this helps,

regards,

ramesh.
#! rnews 1912
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: non-optical mouse availability
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:44:14 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Many thanks to all the netters who responded to my request for information  
regarding mouse replacements for Suns.

I was sent useful information by Aslam Haswarey, Julie Reilly, Mike Khaw, John  
Mckeown, Jeff Wasilko, Joe Malek, Bill Stewart, and Thomas Davis.

Several people suggesting getting in touch with Logitech and/or Mouse-trak.

Aslam said:
Logitech has a mechanical mouse(~$80, me thinks) for the Sun workstations. 
Also, mouse-trak has a trackball mouse for sun workstations. They run
about $199. Call 1-800-533-4822 or send email to yvonne@moustrak.com.

Julie added:
If you order a mouse from Logitech and pay by credit card, they will let
you try it for XX-days and return it for a refund if you do not like it.

And Bill Stewart has already posted here:
Qualix sells Logitech roller mouses.
911031-00 Logitech Series 15 mouse with Sun interface $79
Qualix +1-415-572-0200  San Mateo CA


Mike added:
My SS1 has a 3-button Logitech mouse on it that works just great. No
stupid optical pad that cares about the orientation of the mouse on it
to worry about. 

Jeff said that Sun Express has mechanical mice: 800-use-sunx

Thanks again to everyone.

Rob

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#! rnews 1467
From: cliffp@informix.com (Clifford Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Sources for VLB boards?
Keywords: VESA 486
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:58:18 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Suzuki) writes:


>	Where can I get good prices on 486-33(/66) VLB motherboards
>with and without CPU?  What sort of memory expansion options are
>available.  I have 9 bit SIMMS, but might be willing to switch to 36 bit.
>	Also, how much are VLB versions of the ATI Ultra Pro and the new
>S3 boards?

>Derek Suzuki
>drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu

I purchased a AIR VLB from umircle in fremont, ca. Cost $236 no cpu
256k cache, also got an orchid VLB S3(805) Video Card for $165. 
MB uses 9 bit simms and supports 32 megs on board and there is an propritory
expandsion slot to add another 32 megs. Dealer said he could get an 
ATI Ultra Pro for about $400.  The Orchid card is faster (and cheaper) 
from the mag benchmarks I've seen. I saw it running window and couldn't
resist it's speed. Now all I need is X11 and OS/2 drivers.

Be carefull about VLB motherboards, the first one I purchased would not
run UNIX, It ran DOS and OS/2 fine. It had a USA chipset and was made 
in the USA.
#! rnews 813
From: robk@wswiop01.win.tue.nl (Rob Knubben)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Borland Pascal 7.0 : How many megs ?
Summary: How many megs does BP 7.0 take on my harddisk ?
Keywords: TP BP TPW
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:59:24 GMT
Reply-To: robk@win.tue.nl

Hello,
 Can anybody tell me how many megabyte Borland Pascal 7.0 uses ?
 (On harddisk I mean). I know TP 7.0 & TPW 1.5 together use less than
 20Mb. But I also know that Turbo C++ alone takes 25Mb. So I'm really
 curious: the complete installation of BP 7.0: How many Mb does it take ?

 Please e-mail to robk@win.tue.nl

Thanks,
 Rob Knubben
#! rnews 997
From: leahy@math.rutgers.edu (Andrew Leahy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Problem: REU and Arkanoid
Keywords: REU, Arkanoid, copy protection
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:21:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I purchased Arkanoid over Christmas break.  It's a fun game, but it 
doesn't seem to like my REU:  I can run the program successfully when 
I have my REU disconnected.  However, when the REU is connected, the title 
screen comes up and then the program hangs. (All of the sudden, garbage 
comes on the screen and everything stops.)

Is this some sort of copy protection scheme in action?  Does anyone
have any suggestions for overcoming this problem?  I'd prefer not to
have my ten year-old brother tear out the REU every time he wants to
play.

Andrew Leahy
leahy@math.rutgers.edu
#! rnews 1443
From: robd@cs.kun.nl (Rob Duin)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Messages options
Summary: How do I start messages without reading mail?
Keywords: messages, mail, bulletin board
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Hello everbody,

The Messages program has some known options as
-s for ~/sendmessageinit
-m for only reading mail
-w for separate windows for each region

I wonder if there is also an option that prevents "messages" from accessing the /var/spool/mail directory at startup time. I just want to read the bulletin boards. Does anybody know?

Yes, I can set "unset hold" in my ".mailrc", but that file can also be used by other programs, so that is not a very good solution.

I am asking this, because at our site some people use messages and some want to use Eudora at their Mac's. We can not tell everyone to use the AMS system.

Hope you can help.

Rob Duin


--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Rob Duin, Department of Informatics,
University of Nijmegen, P.O. 9010, 6500 GL  Nijmegen
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
#! rnews 1425
From: johnl@informix.com (Jonathan Leffler)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: struct vs. typedef
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:09:37 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <JAR.93Jan10152829@solva.ifi.uio.no> jar@solva.ifi.uio.no (Jo Are Rosland) writes:
>In article <uRL4wB7w165w@cybrspc.uucp> Roy M. Silvernail writes:
>
>   typedef struct n {
>       int x,y;
>       struct n *last,*next, *up, *down;
>       void (*show)(struct n *);
>       int width;
>       void **value;
>   } ITEM;
>
>   Now, this works, but it sure seems clumsy.  Is this really the only way
>   to do this type of construct?  If not, is it the optimal solution, or is
>   there some extremely clever trick I'm missing?
>
>Given C, that's the best you can get.  You'll just have to get used to
>it, just like the rest of us :-).

Not so:

typedef struct n ITEM;
struct n {
       int x,y;
       ITEM *last,*next, *up, *down;
       void (*show)(ITEM *);
       int width;
       void **value;
};

I prefer the style:

typedef struct Tag Tag;
struct Tag
{
	...
};

where the structure tag and the typdef name are the same -- it gets closer to
C++ that way.
#! rnews 851
From: nemleem@cs.vu.nl (Leemans NEM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,comp.sys.amigam.games
Subject: HELP ME, MONKEY2
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:41:14 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam

I am stuck.
I am in part four and i have found the treasure on Dinky island.
I fell down and now I am constantly being harassed by Le Chuck.
He has got a voodoo doll of me and pesters me with it.
Throwing root beer at him does not help.
There is a crate of 900 pounds in the elevator that is why it doesn't 
move (I guess).

What do I do now.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot seem to escape from this voodoo shit.
	
#! rnews 1839
From: vostveen@prl.philips.nl (Gerrit van Oostveen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: PC ray-tracing
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:21:54 GMT
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands

In <871.132.uupcb@tfd.coplex.com> eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com (Eric Vitiello)  writes:

>TO: 1628726ps485@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca

>>Hi! I'm interested in ray-tracing on the PC.  I wondered if anyone could help
>>me compile a list of software I should investigate.  I know 3d Studio 2.0 is
>>probably the be-all and end-all of modellers on the PC, but I cannot justify
>>spending over $500.  I have no preferance for Windows over Dos, but I would

>   Sorry... It's going to be very hard to find a ray tracer for an IBM
>   compatible comuter for under $500.... If you do find one, it may not
>   do all that you want.  The only one I can think of that is half good
>   is from Brown-Wagh Publishing can't quite remember the name of it,
>   but thier number is: 1-800-451-0900

>....r.c V.t.ell. .r...
>---
> . DeLuxe./386 1.25 #959sa . My Address: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com
>                                                                                                                              

How about POVRay, Rayshade and VORT ? These are all public domain (cheaper
than $500) available on many sites (simtel-20, nic.funet.fi and wuarchive)
and do real raytracing. 3D-Studio does rendering only (other principle).

I used POVRay and Rayshade myself and I'm impressed with their output.
VORT gave somewhat less quality.


G.v.Oostveen
vostveen@prl.philips.nl
#! rnews 1405
From: robd@cs.kun.nl (Rob Duin)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Messages options
Summary: How do I start messages without reading mail?
Keywords: messages, mail, bulletin board
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:25:37 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Hello everbody,

The Messages program has some known options as
-s for ~/sendmessageinit
-m for only reading mail
-w for separate windows for each region

I wonder if there is also an option that prevents "messages" from accessing the /var/spool/mail directory at startup time. I just want to read the bulletin boards. Does anybody know?

Yes, I can set "unset hold" in my ".mailrc", but that file can also be used by other programs, so that is not a very good solution.

I am asking this, because at our site some people use messages and some want to use Eudora at their Mac's. We can not tell everyone to use the AMS system.

Hope you can help.

Rob Duin

--
=======================================
= Rob Duin 
= Internet email adres: robd@cs.kun.nl
= X.400 adres: c=nl;admd=400net;prmd=surf;o=kun;ou=cs;s=robd;
#! rnews 2207
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:57:27 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

jromine@binky.ics.uci.edu (John Romine) writes:

>andys@flatline.sbi.com (Andy Sherman) writes:
>>We are running Solaris 2.1 and I've noticed a change in sendmail.  To better
>>integrate with the multimedia mailtool, sendmail makes sure there are
>>Content-Type and Content-Length headers in every message.  Since it
>>now *knows* the body length of a message, it has no need to prepend a
>>'>' to every line beginning with \nFrom.  So it doesn't.  The result is
>>that when my boss forwards a message to me, inc splits it into two

>What happens if a message already has a content-length header, but
>Sun's sendmail doesn't agree with the length given?  TOPS20 used
>a mailbox format which included file lengths... it sure was a pain
>to edit those mailbox files.

First of all, it isn't sendmail that adds the Content-Length: header,
it is the local mailer. It fixes the Content-length header if you
send a wrong one, as it should. (Or it simply always replaces it).

>As for MH, it supports the UUCP-style (From user date ...) and
>MMDF-style (ctrl-A) mailbox formats.  It doesn't support the newly-
>discovered Solaris-broken-UUCP-style mailbox format.

Ah. The ``ugly hack with >From'' is better? Bullshit. A Content-Length:
header seems the only right way (no need to escape anything in any message).

>It seems likely that other UAs will also not understand the
>Solaris-broken-UUCP-style mailbox format.  Perhaps fixing
>/bin/mail to write the '>' characters is the right thing to do?

Elm does understand Content-Length: headers. MH is the only other
mail agent we have installed that doesn't come with the system. All
Solaris UA understant Content-Length: headers.

Fixing MH would be the proper thing to do.

Casper
#! rnews 1402
From: bjp2399@ultb.isc.rit.edu (B.J. Prusha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: weird cable
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:21:40 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: bjp2399@ultb

In article <Jade.0s0o@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca> Jade@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Jade) writes:
>I have got this external 5.25 drive.  But with it I got this really weird
>cable that I haven't seen before.  It has 37 pins (or very close to that
>number) and they won't plug into any computer I have seen.  I don't know
>much about the external drive but I was wondering what it would take to get
>this hooked up to my system.  Has anyone ever run across a cable like this?
>
>
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
>

	That sounds like a connecter to the old external 8" drives.  If you
have an external 5.25, it's quite possible the person who gave it to you
included the wrong cable.   

	The cable you probably need is the standard 25pin connection.  Your
local friendly computer store should have it in stock.

		Hope I helped.
				Brock Prusha


-- 


Remember, thou art mortal
#! rnews 1971
From: moore@cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:56:18 GMT
             <ANDYS.93Jan11110850@shlepper.sbi.com>

> From: Andy Sherman <andys@flatline.sbi.com>
> Subject: Re: MH and Solaris 2.x sendmail
> Date: 11 Jan 93 16:08:50 GMT

> No, it is not in the cards for me to mung /bin/mail.  Another poster
> pointed out that sendmail *does* have an option to quote From_ lines,
> which I may do, although I'd much rather teach MH to grok
> Content-Length headers (the ugly hack is building as we speak).  My
> reasoning is that Sun did *not* break UUCP-style maildrops, but rather
> they unbroke them in preparation for things like a) their multi-media
> mail, b) MIME, and c) X.400, all of which use content-length to give
> you a definitive answer to the question "Where does the $%$##@# body
> end, anyway?"

FYI, MIME does *NOT* use content-length, or anything like it.  The
content-length header is completely nonstandard.

The ">From" hack is ugly, no doubt about it.  However, using a header field
to delimit messages within a mailbox strikes me as even worse, particularly
when it breaks interoperability with other systems using NFS as a mail access
protocol.

However, it seems like MH wants to support the local mailbox format, whatever
that is...so it might do well for a future version of MH to be able to grok
Content-length headers on local mailboxes only on Solaris systems.  But I'd
just as soon they be REMOVED from all outgoing mail.  The presence of
Content-length headers in Internet email is just going to add to the general
confusion about what is standard and what isn't.

Keith Moore
#! rnews 1333
From: eur@dutncp2.tn.tudelft.nl (Eur van Andel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Compaq Contura w/ two displays
Keywords: Compaq Contura
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:15:20 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Organisation: TU Delft, The Netherlands

In <1993Jan11.114641.14332@ugle.unit.no> nch@Lise.Unit.NO (Nils-Christian Haugen) writes:

>I got a Compaq Contura with an external display.  

>Some time ago, someone mentioned that the Contura could use both the internal
>and the external display at the same time in 640x480 16 color mode.

>How do you do that?  I would like to run Turbo Pascal 6.0 in dual screen mode,
>but the /d switch doesn't work.  Is there a way to do this or have I gotten
>someone wrong?

The dual screen mode in Turbo 6 works probably only with a Hercules/MDA screen
and an EGA/VGA screen. The external display port on laptops displays the same
as on the LCD screen and cannot be accessed separately, IMHO.

Sorry. :-(


-- 
eur  eur@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl
--
eur  eur@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl
#! rnews 2631
From: cardinal@informix.com (Edward Cardinal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Super tiny "System" file?
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:36:33 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

OK, here's a topic that's kind of "retro," but I have seen a bit of traffic
lately on the net for how to use an old mac. Here's my solution, and some
questions:

I have made a Supercard application to run on my old Plus (w/4MB RAM)
for my one-and-a-half year old son. All it does is show bitmaps of
animals, etc., every few seconds, and it intercepts all key and mouse
events (he likes to bang on the keyboard).

I want it to run just by having the machine turned on (he can do it
himself; he's pretty precocious). I only have an 800K internal drive,
and I want as much room as possible for the bitmaps.

I named the application "Finder" and stuck a System on the disk. I had
to use Resedit to trim the System file and application by hand to make
them even smaller, because the application is fairly large (about
500K). I sliced out all the color stuff, and minimalized the text
messages (It now just says "Error! for everything),

Any hints on what else I can cut from the System file without making it go
BOOM? What's the smallest you've ever gotten a 6.0.x system to be?

If you are familiar with Supercard internals, is there anything I can slice
out of the application? I'm sure there is a lot of waste in this context.

The images came from a Hypercard stack originally. Is there a small FREE
(or shareware) hypercard stack browser/player?

As another approach, is there a super-small application that does this
kind of thing (say, for stand-alone self-running ads) that just shows a
series of bitmaps (I can convert them to any format if necessary)? At
best, it would run under an older System so it could be smaller, with
more room on the disk for images. It could even be optimized for the
small screen. Supercard takes up a lot of room for things I don't need
once the app is ready, like the script editor, etc.  I'd write my own,
but I don't have the time right now.
-- 
[ Ed Cardinal                   An English major from Berkeley  ]
[                               Who sold out to programming     ]
[ cardinal@informix.com         Because it pays more.           ]
[          DISCLAIMER: My Opinions. MINE! MINE! MINE!           ]
#! rnews 1432