From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: alt.snowmobiles
Subject: Re: Phaz+YAMers
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:03:02 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: birch.meaddata.com
Keywords: Why not?

In article <richmond.728003746@ee.ualberta.ca> richmond@ee.ualberta.ca (Richmond Raymond C) writes:
>	Is there nothing in this group on the greatest machines on
>   earth?                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ^^^^^

Oh I don't know, I've seen quite a bit here about the EXT. ;-)

And to be only slightly less facetious, that's what the group is all
about - the greatest machines on earth . . . SNOWMOBILES!

>   earth?  After owning first the Phazer then PhazerII I am convinced of 
>   the almost perfect all round capabilities of them.  But don't get me wrong,

To each his own.  I've never been all that crazy about Yamaha sleds myself,
but that's part of what makes it such a great sport!

>   there are lots of good machines out there Yamaha did good with the Enticer 
>   and SS line, as well Arctic cat had some good machines
>   (although heavy as a whale) ,and have you ever driven a John    
>   deer Trail fire/blazer series? In closing I guess my point is that if 

Yes, Deere made good sleds, for their time - but there's no way you can compare
a Trailfire to a current Indy or EXT.  And if I had to ride a sled from that
era (which I *did* until this year), I'd take a Blizzard or an El Tigre or
a TXL over a Trailfire.

>   I hear about any more polarises(too big and too slow) or Indys I think
>   I will be sick.

Big Indy-bias here, no doubt, but *too* *slow*???!?!???  Too slow?  Indy's?
Compared to what, an F16?

Over the rough trails that are typical here in the midwest, the Indy and the 
EXT are clearly, yes, *clearly*, the best sleds for hard trail riding.  A
good rider on one of these two sleds is capable of riding at speeds I would 
never have believed possible if I hadn't done it myself!  (BTW, John!  The 
feeling is back in my left hand and the limp is barely noticable now! ;-)

If I were going to choose the "best all-around sled", I'd use catagories like:

lake racing, trail riding (family cruising), trail riding (extreme!), hill 
climbing, powder busting.

And my choices for each catagory would be:

lake racing: Thundercat
family cruising: Indy 500 or Pantera
extreme trail riding: EXT Special ;-)
hill climbing: Don't know
powder busting: what's powder?

Then there's stuff like durability, fuel mileage, cost, midrange power, etc.
And the always-controversial, subjective catagory - styling.

So I think it's safe to say you could argue forever about "best all-around sled"
and not find a consensus.

Your choice is the Phaser. Fine, mine (for now) is the EXT Special.  A whole
slew of others here would choose one version or another of the Indy.  The
XCR would probably be chosen most.

But statistically speaking, we're too small a sample.  What we need is two
or three hundred more snowmobilers on the net!  Then we'd have discussions about
just about everything, and enough fans of each brand that there'd be calls for
splitting the group into alt.snowmobiles.polaris, alt.snowmobiles.arctic.cat,
etc.  Who knows, maybe we'd even have a flame-fest or two! ;-)

But I've never had a problem discussing other sleds here - most everybody here
has been riding long enough to have a broad range of brand experience, and most
are willing to discuss the pros and cons of each.

So tell us why you think the Phaser is the best!

--
Doug Ritter (dougr@meaddata.com)
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