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From: karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Compulsory Voting (Was <None>)
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:55:46 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>People who don't vote are by default represented by the winner.  They
>may not like the winner, but they obviously didn't care who won from
>among the people running.  I would like to see a None Of The Above
>available on every ballot because this would give people the option
>of voting *against* candidates, but I don't see that compulsory voting
>is a desirable thing.

On some show I caught one day while flipping through TV channels, I heard
someone talking about an election law that's been put into effect (affect?)
in Russia.  I don't know how true it is.

It works this way: if none of the candidates gets at least 50% of the votes
or if less than 50% of the people vote, the election is called "null and 
void", and another election must be ordered with all new candidates.

I see the first part as not necessary (if you have 4 people running in a 
very competetive election, one candidate getting the majority with 30% should
be fine), but the second part sounds interesting.  

The only problem with this: suppose we have this rule for presidential
elections in this country.  We would need to reduce the time for elections.
I mean, if an election occurred in november, and less than 50% of the people
went out and voted.  I don't think we can wait for another 10-or-so months
to go through the whole process again.

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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Smear campaign
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:09:52 GMT

vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>These anonymous acusers of Brown have no credibility at all. Part of
>the rights of the defender as part of the Constitution is the right of
>the defenders to face their accusers in a public court.

In a criminal case...  If it ever gets to trial, they will be forced
to show themselves.  But it's unlikely they will.   This is just
another political maneuver, with the same credibility, as, say...  all
the accusations Brown's been making about Clinton.  It wouldn't
surprise me a bit if this was a Clinton revenge move, or a move to
stop Brown from riding his ass.  Bush hasn't got any reason to hurt
Brown as long as he keeps dragging Clinton down, so it probably wasn't
his team (although it might have been if Brown had a chance).
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From: romeu@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jorgeluis Romeu)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.latin-america,alt.soc.ines:
Subject: Re: 7 WBAI: Harvard Harbors the Adolf Eichmann of Guatemala: Heinous Hector
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:15:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

>
>In article <1992Apr9.202034.10430@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) writes...
>
>>      It's too bad that there weren't enough of us to stop the
>>      original Hitler, and the most recent one. You know, George Bush.]
>
What I'd like to know is why does this article is sent two times a week 
every week....the same article?
From: jade.apisukh@f330.n363.z1.fidonet.org (jade apisukh)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: "Inside the Auschwitz 'Gas Chambers'", by Fred A. Leuchter
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:56:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/330


 > Gee... Next time we will hear that the moon landing by Americans was
 > a myth and a lie. Or that the American revolution never happened. Or
 > that JFK was never shot, he run away with his mistress.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Too late, that one already came out in the "Weekly World News" ... they had a "picture" of him looking out upon the White House lawn.  Suprisingly enough, it was blurry... and then, they had other pictures showing JFK walking, and running around, of course they managed to make every one of them blurry and very hard to look at.

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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Where's bARF?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:01:00 -0500

 > RS> consitutional right to live like a slob. But "Ralph Winston"
 > RS> et al seem to be based in Portland, Oregon. Different Nazis
 
 >Ahhh...so there IS more than one vermin CPU Ban-nazi, after all.

 RD> I don't recall BARF ever (publically) agreeing with the revisionists
 RD> that the Holocaust didn't happen.  He was more concerned with the Jews
 RD> who "completely control the world government and media." 

Yeah...that is the old white-trash party detail he has been assigned to by his
B-CPU neo-inferiors.  Guess he got tired of playing their underdog role and
getting publically blasted on the net for his trouble.

Wait!  I can hear his 'girl-friend' Fox-Face singing the Ralphie Boy jingle:

'Winston taste goooooood...like a <Chomp Chomp> nazi-boy shouuuuld!'
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: FAQ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:40:07 GMT


I think it is about time for a few things to happen on this and
related boards.

1) We need to begin to deliberately ignore Faust/Winston/Martin posts,
	and to have

2) A FAQ, posted periodically (like the revisionist garbage), which
	informs new readers that these people from B-CPU need to
	be ignored and that we apologize for their presence.

This will several purposes, namely cutting down on the bandwidth
of this group which is primarily the same old thing over again and
again with these morons, and at the same time, having a periodic,
automatically generated disclaimer so that newcomers will understand
that we prefer to ignore these people, than to respond and continue
to stroke the Nazis' egos. What do you all think? This is starting
to get ridiculous, and it is interfering with my enjoyment of
these newsgroups....

-Garrett
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: a System:  Prelude to an Assassination
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:19:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C39129.MEDELMA
Organization: Wayne State University

This particular article is so ignorant of ballistics and wound ballistics
in particular, and held together by such a thin tissue of assumptions that
it could only have been written by...by...by...someone trying to discredit
the whole assasination conspiracy! Yes! That's got to be it! I have proof,
do you hear me? Proof positive that gaaaackkkkk....
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From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Re: Christic Vows to keep fantisizing, etc.
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:25:03 GMT

In <167C56D0D.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> in.your.dreams.bucko (Ann Landers) writes:
>Hull....exactly what high government post did he hold? Wasn't he
>the president, or head of the CIA, or something?
 
Uhh .. no, he was the guy who abducted the UFO alien and brainwashed it
into thinking it was ann landers.
Of course, we all know the real ann landers is stuck in cyberspace,
condemned to police alt.conspiracy and suppress any sign of independent
thought.

Rich
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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:28:26 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
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In-reply-to: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com's message of 16 Apr 92 18:46:09 GMT

In article <rdippold.703449969@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
   bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman) writes:
   >In the process of watching "The Silence of the Lambs."
   >Preliminarily, how oh how could they give this movie Best Picture
   >over Stone's JFK? Stone's movie is epochal in that it dares to
   >treat its audience as adults by asking thought-provoking
   >questions. Especially, it has an Edward R. Murrow breakthrough
   >quality. The Truth crushed into the earth rises again.

   Possibly they figured a well done psychodrama might be a bit harder to
   make than a half-truthful dramatization?  JFK treats its audience like
   idiots by lying to them and expecting them to take it as truth.

Note also that the Academy did recognize the technical achievements of
_JFK_ by giving it the best editing award (and one other I now
forget).  Much as I like _JFK_ (a big-budget movie with ``experimental
movie'' qualities (mix of color/BW, documentary footage/recreation,
overlapping soundtracks, etc.) that puts forward the notion that the
US Government consistenly lies to its citizens), the basic Mr. Smith
takes on the Conspiracy plot is pretty pedestrian, so I can't much
fault the lack of other awards.

And, as Ron points out, it does include stuff where Stone's
researchers should have known better.  The most egregious example is
probably the Magic Bullet exposition in court.  While I can't fault
anybody for being at least a bit skeptical about CE399's condition,
the whole routine about the twists and turns the bullet that hit
Connally took is bogus: none of Connally's doctor's ever doubted that
one bullet caused all his wounds (and, in fact, the nature of
Connally's wounds is such that they're pretty hard to explain unless
one bullet, gradually running out of steam, caused them all).  Hmm,
people complain that _JFK_ whitewashes Garrison, but in one respect,
the quality of evidence and argumentation that Garrison used (at least
in _On the Trail of the Assassins_), _JFK_ is pretty accurate---and
damning in places like this, where Garrison is either being
deliberately mendacious or is just careless.

BTW: Personally, I'm tickled pink that _Silence of the Lambs_ won what
it did; I'd been noticing how well put together a movie it is the
month before the Awards.

-30-
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From: cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.latin-america,alt.soc.ines:
Subject: Re: 7 WBAI: Harvard Harbors the Adolf Eichmann of Guatemala: Heinous Hector
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:05:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr9.202034.10430@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) writes...

>      It's too bad that there weren't enough of us to stop the
>      original Hitler, and the most recent one. You know, George Bush.]

	John, I really enjoy your posts to this group, and thank
	you for the information you provide, but this comment is
	really uncalled for.

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From: entropy@yaya (Lawrence C Foard)
Subject: Re: Christic Books & Videos Address Your Need to Learn of Gov't Criminality
Keywords: Christic Institute, Gov't criminality, books & videos
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:13:19 GMT

I assume from this list that the Christic Institute supports the war on
drugs? This is unfortunite since the war on drugs is directly responsible
for much of the recent erosion of the constitution. Not only does it hurt
us in this way, it also means that real criminals (ones who commit
crimes against people) are let loose to wander the streets so that those
arrested in the war on drugs can be jailed.

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.history,alt.discrimination,alt.activism
Subject: Call Banished CPU for *REAL* Freedom of Speech!
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:48:45 GMT
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From: you.talking.to.me.buddy (?)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Christic Vows to keep fantisizing, etc.
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:32:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C1DA7B.MEDELMA
Organization: Wayne State University

Myself, I thought the Christic setbacks were a wonderful demonstration
that perhaps the justice system *did* work. They tried to sue citizens
using fabricated "evidence" that was only backed up by their own books.
They did it for money, pure and simple, and they failed.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: re: Christic comments and worry
From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:26:04 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

We are truly suffering, as a nation and individually, from Democracy that is
rotting from the head down.  Our top officials have crawled into to the muck
and mire with common criminals.  Now we cannot get at the truth because our
leaders have to much to lose.  It's somewhat akin to a bank robber be relieved
of the cash he has stolen and then not being to go to the police because he
himself is a crook.  It is thoroughly disgusting and all but impossible to deal
with.  The questions far outnumber the solutions.  Where do we begin to take
back the country from thugs and hooligans who are so power hungry that they
believe there form of democracy is what's best for everone.
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Subject: Re: Semite?
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 07:54:15 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island

In article <STEINAR.92Apr13203547@faust.solan.unit.no> steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf) writes:

>Ken Mcvay writes:

>>I saw a post recently from someone who traced the bbs phone numbers
>>back, and found them (it?) registered to a name in Portland that
>>rhymes with nerd.... I think it was Hurt or Hurd..... one can probably
>>assume, with some degree of safety, that "maynard" is one of several
>>alter egos conveniently adopted by this "hurt or hurd" idiot to fool
>>us net.idiots into believing that there are multiple users on the
>>site.

>If this guy is using the name "Hurd", either he's also pulling our leg
>or i've just oncovered a very spooky coincidence.  "Hird" was the name
>used to describe Quisling's supporters as a group... and that group
>was simply the Norwegian brand of Nazi...

Funny - I completely overlooked the possibility, but you certainly
add an interesting spin to the tale..

>Great.  Now i'm probably going to get nightmares.  This one is really
>spooky to me, because i assume the sys admin would be using his own name,
>wouldn't he?  But many of the other names seem to have significance,
>and to be only one letter off...

On any legitimate system, I suspect your contention would be correct -
the administrator would use his correct name. The cowards posting
their nazi drivel via b-pu aren't likely to do that, given their
complete inability to handle direct, public exposure.

Of course, I'm uncertain as to why these assholes would make you
nervous - there was no war in Norway, of course, and no Jews
persecuted there - the German troops were only there to protect the
helpless Norwegians from Zionist Thought Police, right?

Anyone got the address or (better yet) the fax number for the newsroom
at the Portland Oregonian? Portland television news outlets?
Garbagemen?




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From: sdevries@fys.ruu.nl (Sjoerd de Vries)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: "Deep Throat", who was he?
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:48:18 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands

In <1992Apr6.001144.11865@corax.udac.uu.se> t88_lars_e@maja.teknikum.uu.se (Pelle Hillberg) writes:

>Hi!
>I've just finished reading "All the President's Men" by Woodward and Bernstein.
>It was quite fascinating reading. Being born 1967, in Sweden, I
>didn't know much about the Watergate burglary and it's consequences.
>But now to the point. In the book, Woodward uses a "source" with codename "Deep
>Throat". Was it ever revealed who he/she was? It must have been someone quite
>high up in the current administration. W&B doesn't give many clues to whom he
>might be. The only one mentioned in the book who was close to the president and
>not (?) involved in the tapings etc. was Pat Buchanan.
>Does anybody know more?

I've heard rumours that it was Alexander Haig. Can't recall a reference
at the moment.

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From: "sheldon sheps" <sheldon.sheps@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: the holocaust story
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:14:11 EST
Reply-To: "sheldon sheps" <sheldon.sheps@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems



       What did Arno J. Mayer actually say about Auchwitz and the
       Holocaust, or...

       history as a movie advertisement

   There's a story told about a movie publicist who looked at a
   dozen terrible movie review and proceeded to use them in a
   newspaper ad.  Where the reviewer had said "great if you
   want to catch 40 winks"  he put "great" in 40 pt type.  Where
   the reviewer wrote "fastpaced if you're dead", he put "fastpaced".

   This is what the revisionists have done with Arno Mayer's
   excellent book "Why did the heaven's not darken?".  And more
   importantly it shows the academic bankruptcy of their view.

     Valerie Lippert (not a revisionist supporter, quotes from the
     ad that ran at Northwestern University

VL> >
VL> >     Arno J. Mayer, chaired professor of European history at
VL> Princeton >University, has written in his _Why the Heavens Did Not
VL> Darken_, that >at Auschwitz more people died of "natural causes"
VL> than were killed. >Mayer is a Jew and himself a refugee from the
VL> Nazi regime.

   at page 364 of the 1990 paperback version:

 "Besides, from 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably
 overall, more Jews were killed by so-called "natural causes than by
 "unnatural" ones.

   Let's now try the WHOLE paragraph...
   at page 364:

 "There is a distinction between dying from "natural" or "normal"
 causes and being killed by shooting,hanging,phenol injection or
 gassing.  But quite apart from the vital importance of not allowing
 this distinction to be used to extenuate and normalize the mass
 murder at Auschwitz, it should not be pressed too far.  The Nazi
 leaders decided to transport frail and sick Jews and Gypsies to
 Aushwitz in full awareness of the perils they would face, and they
 continued to do so once there was no ignoring and denying the deadly
 conditions there, including the endemic danger of epidemics.  Besides
 from 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall,
 more Jews were killed by so-called "natural" causes than by
 "unnatural" causes.

    and let's try p.451
 "On the contrary, the skeptics, who are outright negationists, mock
 the Jewish victims with their one-sided sympathetic understanding
 for the executioners.  They are ill-disguised anti-semites and
 merchants of prejudice, and this morally reprehensible posture
 disqualifies them from membership in the republic of free letters
 and scholarship".

   I do recommend Arno's book...it is somewhat controversial as it
   does not believe that the physical destruction of Jews was
   an initial goal of Nazism...but that does not mean that Arno
   supports the revisionists.

  sheldon.sheps@canrem.com
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