HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Confused by distributions...
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:56:23 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Oct13.084129.3633@memstvx1.memst.edu>,
 flowers@memstvx1.memst.edu (Harry Flowers) writes:
> I thought that, in NEWS.SYS, the node names were those of news *not* to
> pass news between.  Whereas, in NEWS.DISTRIBUTION, it's a list of nodes
> to send to.  So, in the above example, news is being passed to all nodes
> other than the originator.

Right. The example is wrong. The NEWS.DISTRIBUTION file is still
obsolete. Anything you can do with NEWS.DISTRIBUTION, you can now do
in NEWS.SYS.
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From: glz@kalle.impab.se
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: NNTP server hang with UCX 2.0
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:34:33 GMT
Organization: IM Program AB, Stockholm, Sweden

Hello there,

We have some problems with the ANU-NEWS NNTP server.

System:

VAXserver 3500
VMS 5.4-3
UCX 2.0
ANU-NEWS 6.1b3

Since we upgraded to UCX 2.0 we can't get the NNTP server (NNTP_TCPUCXM.C) to
stay alive. I find no traces of errors in any of the logfiles. When I try to
debug it, it hangs and die on the timeout. No special codes in the accounting,
audit or opcom logs.

Is there either a NNTP_SERVER for the UCX 'inetd'-function or a description of
what is needed in the transport specific part of the server, so I can write
one?  

Goran.
From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Can't delete temporary files
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:15 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eql.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Oct7.223103.511@sdi.com>, finkel@sdi.com (Joel Finkel - SDI) writes...
>       I am having a problem with deleting temporary files.  [...]
>       The files that cannot be deleted are created with the following
>       protection:
>       (S:RWED,O:RWED,G:RE,W)

     Check your directory protection.  In order to delete a file, you
must have Delete access to the file itself and also Write access to the
directory holding in.

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: moderated newsgroups
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:23:05 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Oct14.165114.272@news.uwyo.edu>, jimkirk@news.uwyo.edu writes:
> I've tried to post to moderated newsgroups, but News seems to just stuff
> the article in the local database instead of mailing it off to the
> moderator.  I know News is supposed to do this "correctly" but it appears
> to be unaware of which groups are moderated.  Is there something that
> needs to be specified in some startup/configuration file to make this
> work correctly?  I sort of thought it was automatic with no choice.

You have to tell NEWS which groups are moderated, and you have to have
a MAILPATHS file with tells news where to send the articles.  Do:

NEWS> SHOW NEWSG news.announce.newgroups

That should tell you that the group is moderated and what the
moderator's address is. The moderator's address should be something
like:

news-announce-newgroups@backbone.site

where backbone.site is the name of an appropriate backbone site. You
can use uunet.uu.net if you don't know of a closer site. Your
MAILPATHS file should look like:

backbone	%s@uunet.uu.net
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From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Articles overflow directory limit
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:12:34 -0500

In article <1992Oct9.082537.1078@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
[quote deleted]
> Firstly, there is *no* VMS limit on number of files in a directory.  If the
> directory exceeds 127 blocks, caching stops, but that's it.  There *is* a limit
> on the number of files on a disk and you should make sure that when you
> initialize the disk you put your articles on that you give yourself lots of
> leeway (depending on the number of groups you carry and item retention time,
> you could exceed 100,000 files on your disk).

Good advice.  I ran into this limit shortly after switching from caching NNTP
client to full server.  Don't forget to reserve enough file headers, too!  That
was the next limit I hit.  If INDEXF.SYS is too small, you have ? options:

1.	Do an /IMAGE backup, reinitialize the disk, restore the backup
	/NOINITIALIZE.  Be sure that you are running VMS V5.5-2:  /NOINIT
	has been broken for ages.  I can assure you that V5.5 is still broken.
	:-{

2.	Defragment the drive completely and run a program that extends INDEXF.
	I've heard that one must ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR after manually extending
	INDEXF due to a bug in the handling of the backup header block, but
	V5.5 appears not to have that bug.  (As you can see, I had to do this
	one!)

3.	BACKUP/NOIMAGE, reinit, restore, hope you didn't have any files with
	multiple directory entries.  I haven't tried this one.

I now have the NEWS disk set up with 300,000 files and roughly 150,000
preallocated headers.  (Now what I run out of is free blocks.  *sigh* Time to
trade in the RA82s.)

[deletia]
> Lastly, the one directory that could get really back if you're not careful is
> for the junk newsgroup.  The way I handle this is to create all my newsgroups
> prior to any articles coming in (watch them control messages!) and to always
> add with /nojunk.  Anyone posting to a bogus newsgroup deserves to have their
> articles chucked into the bit bucket.  Do NOT add with the /cregrp qualifier.

Okay, I've been wondering how to do this.  I tried retrieving the latest
checkgroups message, editing as instructed in the message, and feeding the
result to NEWS.  It adds the message to the control group but doesn't execute
it.  I tried it with 69 different combinations of qualifiers and none worked. 
(No, I don't remember them all.)  Any hints would be much appreciated!
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Newsgroups: bnr.news.admin,news.software.readers
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: trn and KILL files
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:11:07 GMT

I am trying to do something a bit weird with trn and KILL files, and
it isn't working.

A while back, I realized I was spending way too much time in Usenet
(too much time?  There ain't no such thing! :-) ), so I grounded
myself for a week, then started reading again with a much smaller
set of subscribed new groups.  One of the groups I dropped was
can.politics - a group I much enjoy, but it is time-consuming.

Yesterday I realized I could get most of the benefits of the group,
without spending so much time, by reading only posts by those
regulars I most enjoy.  So I wrote a KILL file, as follows:

   THRU nnnnn
   /^/j
   /From: user1/h:m
   /From: user2/h:m
   /From: user3/h:m

where "nnnnn" is one less than the smallest active article number.
Except for the "h", this is the same as the example in the man
page, to read only newgroup messages in the control newsgroup.

When I entered the group, it junked all articles (any way to do
this silently, btw?), then started processing the "user1" pattern
and went off into limbo.  After about 10 minutes, I hit control-C,
and got the response that the search was interrupted at article
mmmm (where mmmm << nnnnn!).  What gives?  Why isn't the THRU value
being used for ALL patterns in the kill file?

In the meantime, can.politics is unsubscribed, and I kind of miss
it . . .  :-)

The Rhealist - Rheal Nadeau - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself
From: john@cutler.com (John E. Babbitt Jr.)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: cnews slowing down, batch trouble
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:42:53 GMT
Organization: Cutler & Company, Inc., Medford OR (503) 770-9000

Hi,

I don't have much information on cnews.  Right now, it's taking such a
long time to add into new articles from news batches.  Approximately one
to two articles per minute, and that's on a 486/DX.  I also noticed that
the history file is rather huge, even though there's only 40 or so active
newsgroups.  Doesn't the history file purge itself of old message-ids
periodically?  What can I do to speed things up?

Another question... occasionally news fails on the incoming news batches.
I restarted the thing by doing an /usr/lib/newsbin/input/newsrun.  Is that
the right way?  I also notice that the news batches do not get deleted
until =ALL= news batches have been successfully inserted.  However, that
creates more overhead when I restart the thing, as it has to start again
with the first batch it finds, and it spits out all these "duplicate"
messages in the log file.  I wish the batch would go away one at a time
after a successful insert.  Or, am I doing something wrong here?

Regards,

John E. Babbitt, Jr.        {UUCP: ...hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!cutler!john}
Senior Programmer/Analyst   {Internet: john@cutler.com}
Cutler & Company, Inc.      {Phone: 503/770-9000 (voice) 503/770-9014 (tt)}
Medford, Oregon  97504      {Disclaimer: What I say is my personal opinion}
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: HELP: XRN core dump on SPARC
From: komandur@cs.pitt.edu (Sridhar Komandur)
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:11:30 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi 

I compiled xrn6-17. It core dumps.

I am including the dbx output.

Thanks for your help.

Sridhar Komandur
------------------------------
=> xrn
xrn: Caught signal (11), cleaned up .newsrc and removed temp files
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

=> dbx xrn core
Reading symbolic information...
Read 15333 symbols
warning: object file read error: text address not found
program terminated by signal SEGV (segmentation violation)
(dbx) where
warning: object file read error: text address not found
_XtGetTranslationValue() at 0xf77088a8
XtGetValues() at 0xf76ed1c8
setTranslations(mode = 2), line 1617 in "/home/merlot/ftp/xrn6-17/buttons.c"
swapMode(), line 1679 in "/home/merlot/ftp/xrn6-17/buttons.c"
determineMode(), line 6737 in "/home/merlot/ftp/xrn6-17/buttons.c"
main(argc = 5, argv = 0xf7fffbdc), line 400 in "/home/merlot/ftp/xrn6-17/xrn.c"








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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Help: Compiling xrn on sparc stations
From: komandur@cs.pitt.edu (Sridhar Komandur)
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:17:02 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I get the following error while compiling xrn on SPARCs ( tried on different 
SPARC machines). 

Thanks in advance for your help.

- Sridhar Komandur


 cc -O -pipe -I/usr/local/X11/include -target sun4 -c buttons.c

/: write failed, file system is full
compiler(iropt) error:  write_irfile: No space left on device



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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,netcom.general,netcom.software
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Printing From trn?
Organization: Borland International
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:39:26 GMT

westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) wrote:
> how do I configure trn so that it uses csh instead of sh as the
> environment in which to execute the piped command?

Excerpts from the trn manpage:

#     | command
#             Shorthand for "s | command".

#     s destination
#             Save to a filename or pipe using sh.  If  the  first
                                         ^^^^^^^^
#     S destination
#             Save to a filename or pipe using a preferred  shell,
#             such  as  csh.  Which shell is used depends first on
#             what you have the environment variable SHELL set to,

So by extrapolation, you'd do a:

        S | progname

to use the current setting of your SHELL variable.  Alternately, you could
macro | to "S|" by putting the following line into your .rnmac file:

|       %(%m=a?S|:|)

though you might just want to macro some other character to the entire
print command:

~       %(%m=a?S|lpr^M:~)

(both of these are untested, but they should work).  Also, check out the
PIPESAVER environment variable:

#     PIPESAVER (%)
#             The shell command to execute in order to  accomplish
#             a  save  to a pipe ("s | command" or "w | command").
#             The command typed by the user is substituted  in  as
#             %b.
#
#             Default: %(%B=^0$?<%A:tail +%Bc %A |) %b
#
#             Explanation: if %B is 0, the command  is  "<%A  %b",

which could be modified to execute csh from the spawned sh.  Perhaps:

%(%B=^0$?/bin/csh <%A:tail +%Bc %A | /bin/csh) %b

would work.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: rtf->ascii script needed
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:56:04 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

 
Can someone point me to a unix script that will translate rich text format into
plain ascii while retaining (at least some of) the formatting?
Please respond by e-mail.
 
Thanks.
 
Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Tin 1.1 PL6 - unKILL?
Organization: Soo, Grabbit & Runne
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:22:41 GMT

Thor Hovden (s300@brems.ii.uib.no) wrote:
> A little request to the tin-maintainer;
> 
> I've killed a subject using the kill save operation.  But now
> I want to read it again.  It seems that marking the subject
> for auto-selection does not help.  A feature in which one could
> do this would be fine.  If the index file can be edited directly
> (can it?), it would suffice.
> 
> --
> Thor Hovden (s300@brems.ii.uib.no)

Speaking as a newish tin user, I can think of two methods.

1) Edit the kill file.  The kill string is human readable and the
sections are easy to identify.  There are sequence numbers on each
kill section, but they seem to be in comment lines so they may not
matter.  Have a backup file in case I'm wrong, or be prepared to
resequence manually.

2) Set up your options so Killed topics are marked as read, instead
of being completely concealed.  Then you can get to them using "r"
etc.  This is most useful if you want to revive a topic only
temporarily, of course.


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From: ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Ray Lauff)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Newsreader for VM/CMS system (client)
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:55:18 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

We are looking for a client newsreader for VM/CMS Version 5.5.
We currently have a package 

NETNEWS: Version 2.4.4, The Pennsylvania State University

But we could not install it without reserving 1 3880 disk pack and
having the server dump the feed to the vm system.  Needless to say,
this is very inefficient, since the server is already doing this
for out university.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Ray
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: bond@newton.dep.anl.gov
Subject: I am confused, Newsreaders...?
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:38:00 GMT

I am confused about news readers.  I am currently using a
reader on a PC.  The PC connects to a server via a TCP/IP
connection.  When I connect, I have a list of newsgroups
which I was connected (subscribed) to.  If I wish to read
a note, I select the newsgroup and the programs queries the
server and gets the subjects of all the notes in that
newsgroup.  I then select the note to read.  The local program
again queries the server and gets the note.

At no time is the "reader" (local program) receiving all the
notes of a topic or subscribing to all of newsgroups.  I
would like to use this type of a system for a UNIX box I am
setting up on the same WAN.  I don't want this box to be
a server, just a "reader."  I have read the notes in
news.announce.newuser and they imply that the only way to get
the news is by creating a complete server because the
"readers" I have been trying to install (e.g. - rn) seem to
require the server transport, etc.

Can anyone help with my confusion?  Am I mixing terms?

Direct responses to bond@newton.dep.anl.gov encouraged.

Christopher Baker
Argonne National Laboratory
Division of Educational Laboratory

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: jamieson@netcom.com (David Jamieson)
Subject: Are there any DOS news readers available?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:00:52 GMT

To reduce the strain on my system I find myself trying to read news
while offline.  Are there any news readers available which work under
MS-DOS?  Can I obtain this via anonymous ftp?
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Hawaiian Bread
From: bill.marr@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Bill Marr) 
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: bill.marr@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Bill Marr) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Batchelor Pad PCBoard ~ Long Beach, CA ~ +1 310 494 8084

TO: kdelara@adobe.com (L. Ka-ai (Hagmann) de Lara)

Enjoyed your recent posting regarding: "S:Hawaiin recipes needed" where 
you were both humorous and informative.  Sorry to have missed the original 
Spam posting.  I doubt if anyone would have believed Spam to be 
"traditional."

Speaking of traditional, would you happen to have a recipe for "Hawaiian 
Bread."  They sell what they call Hawaiian Bread in the stores here in 
Southern California but I doubt if it would even compare to the real 
thing.

Thanks in advance, I look forward to trying it.

Bill


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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea)
Subject: Re: TIN 1.1 PL6 problems: long .newsrc lines, tind dying
Reply-To: Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 Beta PL7]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:55:06 GMT

Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
: 
: (a) Tind is suddenly dying on startup with a SIGSEGV.  I run it (su'ed
: to news) every fifteen minutes in crontab, and have not recently
: recompiled or reinstalled either tin or tind.  I will poke at the
: source later to look for obvious problems, but does this ring a bell
: with anyone?

This could be a problem that a group in the active file has an 'x' in
the fourth field. Tin v1.1 PL6 will not load the 'x'ed group into the
active[] array. Unfortunately the groupname is loaded into the hashed 
table for looking up groups,  so an inconsist active[] array and hash
table result therefore giving rise to a SIGSEGV.

This problem has been fixed in the next release.

Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: Re: Are there any DOS news readers available?
Organization: pnet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.150052.20872@netcom.com> jamieson@netcom.com (David  
Jamieson) writes:
- To reduce the strain on my system I find myself trying to read news
- while offline.  Are there any news readers available which work under
- MS-DOS?  Can I obtain this via anonymous ftp?
- 
  Look for uupc.  The newest versions have a mailer and news software so you  
can have your mail and news passed down to your machine at home.  I plan to   
experiment with this soon as I have a few users in the SF bay area who want  
access, but dont want to spend alot of time on the phone long distance.
  You will need yo get a uucp feed from your current ( or a new ) mail/news  
location.  Source and executables are available on the net.  I don't remember  
where i found it off hand, but archie will give you a few locations.

  Good Luck,
	Zeke
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From: dgillmor@msen.com (Dan Gillmor)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Tin help -- documentation?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 20:49:31 GMT
Organization: MSEN, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI
NNTP-Posting-Host: heifetz.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 13 Oct 1992 17:33:23 MST
From: Thom Anthony McCarty <IETAM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Bigger, Better News Readers

I am looking for bigger and better (newer wouldn't hurt) news readers.  I
am interested in both Mac and PC readers that can read and post via Ethernet
and TCP/IP.  I have already looked at:

     NewsWatcher 1.3d6
     Nuntius 1.1.1d6
     Stacked News 13
     Net Feed 1.0
     WinVN
     WinQVT/NET 2.6
     Trumpet 1.05g

Currently NewsWatcher and Trumpet 1.04b (Trumpet 1.05 is shareware) seem
to be two winners.  Do you know of anything better, shareware or freeware?
Where would be some good place to look?

The following features are very desirable:

*   cut/copy & paste (save as file / insert file is workable)

*   simultaneous mailing and posting

*   article listing that displays the posting date

*   periodic updating of articles w/o quitting and restarting

*   display number of unread articles next to news group names

*   option to display news group with hierarchy
      (list of high levels opens to mid levels opens to low level,
       email -> email.msmail -> email.msmail.banyan)

*   be able to cancel postings






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