HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rstewart@ganglia.megatek.uucp (Rich Stewart)
Subject: Where Dave Harvey
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:46:01 GMT

For all of you wonder where the *real* Dave Harvey is this year:

General Classification [No change]
(a l'issue de la 18eme etape)

1.  Indurain M. (BAN)           89h 56' 25"
2.  Chiappucci C. (CAR)              1' 42"
3.  Hampsten A. (MOT)                8'  7"
4.  Lino P. (RMO)                    9' 22"
5.  Bugno G. (GAT)                  10'  9"
6.  Delgado P. (BAN)                11' 50"
7.  Breukink E. (PDM)               15' 54"
8.  Perini G. (CAR)                 15' 56"
9.  Roche S. (CAR)                  17' 12"
10. Vona F. (GBM)                   19' 22"
11. Heppner J. (TEL)                20'  1"

..

21. Alcala R. (PDM)                 26' 16"
24. Fignon L. (GAT)                 37' 22"
40. Kelly S. (FES)               1h 11' 42"
129. Manders H. (HEV)            3h 47' 45"
130. Quevedo F. (AMA)            4h  1' 27"
131. Harvey D. (BARK)           32h 10' 10"
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(I wonder if he can make up the time in the ITT?)

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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Subject: Gauge Calibration
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:09:51 GMT


I currently have one of those inexpensive Zefal gauges that I
use to check tire pressure.  It's fine for comparison; i.e.,
the front tire is 5 pounds less than the rear, etc.  But I'd
like to know if the tire is really 75psi when the gauge says
it is.  How does one calibrate a gauge?  Are the more expensive
(metal) models more accurate, and can they be calibrated?



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From: pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Question about Ultegra 8 sp and DuraAce 8sp
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:33:28 GMT
Organization: U of Michigan, ITD Research Systems

In article <70244@apple.Apple.COM> mikami@Apple.COM (Eiichiro Mikami)  
writes:
> Hi,
>    Does any anybody know if I can mixed Ultegra 8sp and DuraAce 8sp
> components?  For example using Ultegra 8sp hubs and shifter with DuraAce 
> rear derailleur.
> 
>   Also I have 7 sp DuraAce rear derailleur can I use it as an 8sp?


You can violate the rules with some success, but things will work best if  
you keep the shifter/rear derailleur combination together.  There are two  
categories, essentially, one is light action, which is RX100, 105, and 600  
(also Deore, Deore XT); the other is Dura Ace.  Keep Dura Ace with Dura  
Ace for best results.  You can mix and match the others without worrying  
much at all.

The freewheels/freehubs will function with any of the systems.  (Of course  
7spd shifters with 8spd freehubs are problematic; 8spd shifters with 7spd  
freehubs are basically no problem).
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:18543 sci.med:14504
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,sci.med
Subject: Re: Hand numbness after extended cycling
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:46:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul21.211806.21416@cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes:
>
>Has anyone had experience with this?   Is this just an anomaly, or can I
>expect this to happen every cycle trip?   Is there any way I can prevent
>this from happening?   I never thought I'd have to choose between cycling
>and playing guitar...
>
Nerve palsies in the palm are not uncommon in cyclists.  Padded gloves
and handlebars might help.  Repeated injury can lead to permanent
damage, so if you aren't able to stop it with simple measure, it may
be a choice between cycling and guitar.  If it doesn't get better
within 10 days, you'll need to see a neurologist.

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From: lally@beta.lanl.gov (Bryan R. Lally)
Subject: Re: Need Help, Deraileur problems!
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:04:02 GMT

Dave Severn writes:

>              Everything seemed fine on my Saturday ride. The whole system
> seemed very smooth, as it should have. Last night, Sunday, I was out for a rid
> and when I went to start a sprint; standing on the pedals and really pumping,
> the system went haywire. The derailleur started to shift down to the smaller
> rear cogs just as I was applying real power to the pedals!

Another possible cause for this behavior is lack of lubrication where
the derailleur cable goes under the bottom bracket.  This can also be
a cause of creaky noises coming from the bottom bracket area.  Sounds
weird, but I've seen it.  The frame flexes and the cable gets
"attached" at the bottom bracket, where it's supposed to slide.  This
isn't always the cause, but a little grease is cheap.

	- Bryan
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:18696 ont.general:1224 can.general:3496
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
Subject: Re: Bicycle helmets (functionality)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:44:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <davecb.712238768@yorku.ca> davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown) writes:
>
>  Safety helmets do **far** less than you think.  The first Snell Memorial
>Standards (car and motorcycle) helmets were barely capable of prventing
>skill fracture from a fall from standing position. Indeed, that was the
>standard itself at the time: if it wouldn't prevent skull fracture, it
>failed.
>  The materials have improved since: now they tend to prevent serious
>concussion in a fall from a standing position.
>
Is this *your* opinion or could you quote some statistics from
a reliable source?
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From: stek@alcvax.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: RE: CHEAP, SAFE tires????
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:45:16 GMT

Edward Pavelchek asked about cheap safe tires.
I and everyone on my team have had excellent luck with Continental Super
Sport tires.  I think they run in the $12 to 15 range. So far i hav
been training since March or so with one on my rear wheel and had
very few flats.  I guess that I put 2500 to 3000 miles on them.  They
don't look like they are close to wearing out yet.
From: dlp@zule.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan Pritchett - SunSoft Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: MTB Touring (was: Touring bicycles -- an extict breed?)
Date: 27 Jul 1992 18:54:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: zule

In article <l78gjcINNpff@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes: 
|> >You wanna tour?  Take the mtn bike.  Leave the skinny tire at home and use it
|> >to race.  For comfort, ADDED stability and durability, you can't beat an ATB
|> >for touring. 
|> 
Excuse me, but I can easily beat an ATB for touring. How, Ryan Vanguard
recumbent. No butt pain, no shoulder pain, no hand numbness. Nice upright
position so I can relax and take in the scenery. Sorry, but arguing about
whether a road bike or MTB is better for touring is like arguing whether
Sears or Montgomery Ward sells the best MTB's.:-) For long distance
touring a underseat-steering-long-wheelbase recumbent can't be touched.

Dan Pritchett               | ARPA/Internet: dlp@zule.Eng.Sun.COM
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From: bob@cc.usu.edu (Bob Bayn)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bad Accident
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:46:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State Univ

> jesnow@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan E Snow) writes:
>>ever seen, and still got flattened.  Third, the cops seemed unaware
>>that he had any rights at all that they might be interested in 

bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) wisely suggests:
> Please take a copy of your post to the police dept. & send copies...

But do a little editing and re-writing, remember that your new audience
won't be as automatically sympathetic as this one.
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From: Marc Boudreau
Subject: Re: Canadian Mail Order Catalogue
Reply-To: ttpui@x400gate.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.134744.1@physics.carleton.ca> ogg@physics.carleton.ca
writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.163243.12012@sun.pcl.ac.uk>, marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk
(Marcus Harvey) writes:
>> ANYWAY, I she kindly said that she'd send me BICYCLE GOODIES if I wanted, so
>> does anyone here know a good Canadian mail order catalogue I could get her
to
>> send me? 
>
>Unfortunately, there are no specialist bike mail order companies in Canada
that
>I know of.  (If I'm wrong, fellow canucks please, please correct me.)

     OK, there is Velotique, Racer Sportif and Racelink (all in Toronto).
     Unfortunately, I will post the address  for Racelink and Velotique
      tomorrow if I can find them.

 > Most people just order directly from the
>US, and even paying duty + shipping + taxes, it's still usually cheaper than
>bike shops.  Which of course makes it harder for bike shops to compete, so
>their prices go up, which means it's even cheaper to buy in the US.
>

>I really can't imagine that you'd save much, if anything, sending stuff back
to
>the UK.   

     This I will agree with.

>> What are prices like in Canada? Are they as good as in the US?
 
     Mail order from the US is a little cheaper then buying in Canada
     but shop prices in the US are pretty much the same (considering the
     exchange and ignoring Canada's GST (bizarre/braindead form of VAT).


     Marc Boudreau
     
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From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: RAAM news
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:03:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: keps.1992Jul29.160344.22682
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems

RAAM Update Tuesday 9:00 pm status

Hogan - wheeler, tx, 8:45pm 277mpd, 11.5 mph
Turner 185
Allison 241
Regan 274

Solon has dropped out - unknown reason

Kish - vernon, tx, 8:13pm 371 mpd, 15.5 mph
Fourney 20
Tatrai 63
Kees 94

(and for the New Englanders Ed Kross was in 13th at 334 back)

Addison-Addison at 1131 miles, 11.2 mph 268 mpd
Wilson-Reitman 18 back

Mankus-Gerlich dropped - heat related problems
Haldeman-Bredlove at mile 1256 15.8 mph, 380 mpd

sorry this is cryptic, I will do better tomorrow, when I have more time.

-- 
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Kodak Electronic Printing Systems, Inc             7 down, 5 to go!
164 Lexington Road, Billerica, MA 01821-3984       
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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Bike Nashbar
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:42:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na

I have ordered quite a bit from Nashbar. I recommend them
highly. They have provided me with better service than
any other mail order firm (except Excel which I have 
limited experience with.)

They _did_ advertise those sell-out Look pedals when they
didn't have any though. But one problem doesn't compare
with some of the nightmare stories posted here about other
companies. And I've had pretty poor performance (sic) from
Performance.

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From: pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox)
Subject: Binachi Limited & Ishiwata tubing
Organization: LLNL
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:35:05 GMT

I have just purchased a 1990 (or 89?) Bianchi Limited. I know
nothing about the tubibg it is made of, or the relative quality
of this particular bike (I bought it on the assumption that 
Bianchi is a reputable name). If some one know some specifics, 
please let me know. here are the specs I know:

Ishiwata double butted chromoly tubing, with ishiwata unicrown fork,
shimano 600 gruppo, sakae stem, sakae tange headset (?), not much
else, except that it is celest green from the tip to the tail. Let
me know if you have any info.


Thanks,

Phil


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From: akins@cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins)
Subject: More info on BEHEMOTH
Originator: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:14:41 GMT

I just got finished checking out the some of the information
that Steve Roberts sent me.  The back issues of his newsletter
and a lot of other information on his past and continuing travels
are in ftp.telebit.com under /pub/nomad/ .  Check out the README
file first, as it gives a synopsis of what information can be found in
/pub/nomad - including the directory structure and more information
on getting info on Steve.

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From: mike@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov (mike)
Subject: Experience with Nashbar Gel shorts...
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:41:47 GMT

I bought a pair of gel-padded shorts from Nashbar.  They seemed
to work great for a while, but then the padding sort of 'fluffed'
up.  It made me feel like I had a load in my diapers (ah, reminiscing
on days of old!).  Finally I cut the pad out of the seat.  The gel was
contained in a rubber sac, which I cut open to extrude the contents.
The gel pad had disintegrated into small pieces, quite slippery and wet,
which explained the sensation I described.  I also found that the rubber
pad had some small leaks in it (other than the hole I had cut).  I wonder if 
water could have gotten into the sac and ruined the structural integrity of
the pad.  The gel was clear, about 3/16" thick.  I let it dry and it still
retained its softness, although it became very sticky.  For what it's
worth, I also froze some and it formed ice crusts but did not lose its
resiliency.

The reason I'm asking about this is I loved those shorts!  My butt's 
tougher now, so I just removed the pad and sewed the chamois back on,
but if the gel would hold up it would be great for breaking in
the old backside when necessary.

Any response from the august group comprising rec.bikes?  I don't
see those shorts anymore in the Nashbar catalogs.

Just my 10,000,000 rubles ($.02).
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From: border@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Ryan A. Border)
Subject: Re: Good Road Race bikes for about $600
Keywords: What is the nub?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:27:01 GMT

bdombrow@triton.unm.edu (brent m 92jun08 dombrowski) writes:
>
>	I just recently bought a Giant Yukon.  On the non gear side of the
>frame, there is a little nub that sticks out.  I is about an inch from the rear
>axle on the lower part of the frame.  I have no idea what it is for and the 
>people at the bike shop are baffled too.  Anyone out there have any ideas?
>
>	--------------
>	\	     |\
>	 \	     | \
>	  \	     |  \
>	   \         |   \
>	    \-----------o-
>
>	The "o" is the little nub I am talking about

The location of this "nub" is consistent with an attachment for some
sort of hub brake arm (drum or disk).  I'm not familliar with the Yukon, 
so can't really say if this makes any sense or not (Is is a touring bike?).
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From: gooch@leland.Stanford.EDU (Carl Gooch)
Subject: US Olympic Cyycling Tidbits
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:50:11 GMT

Gleaned from the tiny print in today's San Jose Mercury-News:

Carl Sundquist lost in the second round of the men's pursuit.

Ken Carpenter won his second round sprint match.

Connie Paraskevin-Young lost a second-round sprint after a ruling that
she obstructed her opponent.  In her subsequent repechage pairing, she
lost to a rider who, as I read the one paragraph article, cut off
Paraskevin-Young in the last turn while P-Y was in the sprinter's
lane.  Her protest was denied.  Based on my sketchy knowledge of track
racing rules, shouldn't P-Y have been awarded the win on the basis of
her opponent crossig the sprinter's line while someone was already
there?

Finally, in the points race prelim, an American cyclist whose name I
have temporarily forgotten placed thirteenth in a field of nineteen.
My guess is that they're taking about ten from each of the two heats,
but I don't know.

Carl
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From: ejk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EDWIN J. KAY)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Honking Horns
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:40:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Jul30.195638.14040@bnr.ca>, snoopy@crchh426.BNR.CA (Antonio Tell
o) writes:
>In article <Bs7tCz.KDx@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
>gwalker@lily04.waterloo.edu (Greg Walker) writes:
>|>> [some stuff deleted for brevity's sake]
>|>> Honking and bells should be reserved for ``unusual situations''
>otherwise they
>|>> just become to common and end up being ignored.
>|>
>|>I'm told that Europeans, (the French in particular), use their horns as I
>|>described above, and that Paris is a constant cacophony of those chirpy
>|>little import car horns.  (I.e. not the American-made fog horns usually found
>|>on Buicks et al).  Nevertheless, you can still tell which horns are being
>|>sounded near you, and the drivers don't simply ignore them, the same way
>|>that we don't ignore turn signals.
>
>Having completed a bike tour in Portugal this ast April I can attest that
>about 90% of cars passing politely 'beep' the horn in order to let you know
>they are there. The manner in which it was done never (to me) seemed to imply
>anything other than 'good' intentions. As an FYI I also noticed 'beeps' of the
>horn when passing horse drawn carriages and assorted farm equipment.
>
In Pennsylvania it is against the law to honk your horn "too close" to a
cyclist whom you are passing.
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From: maslen@wonderhog2.Eng.Sun.COM (Thomas Maslen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Try wordy@lorien.qualcomm.com [was Re: Behemoth: Finally ... address]
Date: 27 Jul 1992 00:37:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: wonderhog2

akins@cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins) writes:
>The correct address is ( and I just sent mail to make sure
>it didn't bounce back):

>WORDY@bikelab.sun.com

... which is transformed into bikelab.corp.sun.com, which is an alias for
a machine called caliban.corp.sun.com, which forwards mail for 'wordy' to

			wordy@lorien.qualcomm.com

(which I believe another poster suggested).  Telnetting to the SMTP port
on lorien.qualcomm.com gives

vrfy wordy
250-Steve Roberts <"| /bin/sh /usr2/wordy/FilterByTen -n2 acc.wordy 1767">
250 Steve Roberts <\wordy>

... so it looks like the right place.

Thomas
maslen@eng.sun.com
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From: robishaw@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Gary Robishaw x5960)
Subject: Re: cleaning and lubricating a chain
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:54:32 GMT

Dis-agree. Dawn sounds OK (I use Simple Green) but WD40 won't stay put (is
flung all over creating a mess), and attracts grime. I prefer Tri-Flow. I'd
like to try graphite. What does the net think about graphite?

Gary

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From: djconnel@leland.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Connelly)
Subject: Source for Women's Race Results
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:17:04 GMT

For those interested, the New York Times national edition listed
the complete results of yesterday's cycling events.

Dan


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From: rwt@ohm.york.ac.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Cannondale Tourers
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:55:07 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

Can anyone tell me what the current cost of a Cannondale Tourer is
in the US ?

Thanks

Richard


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From: mgammie@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Mary Gammie)
Subject: Race Across America Results
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:35:03 GMT

Does anyone know how to follow the progress of the Race 
Across America?  It started Friday, July 24 from Irvine, 
California, and finishes in Savanah, Georgia in 8 or 9 days.    
I would like to find out the official and unofficial finishers, 
but would also like to follow the race from day to day.

Thanks,  Beth
mgammie@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu 

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