From: georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: What is real racism? (Re: Was: Why rish asians should vote Republican)
Organization: Meta - Software
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:24:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.210725.4787@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

>There is an important difference between my comments and Mr. Danielle
>T. Wei (dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu)'s comments.  Mr. Wei's comments directly
>attack the people, specifically African-Americans.  On the other
>hand, I am criticizing culture.
>
>Culture != People.  (-ge = ethnicity (i.e. genetics), -cu = culture).
>
>I criticize Chinese-cu culture but not Chinese-ge people.  Mr. Wei's
>criticism are directly specifically at individuals with black skin;
>in other words he directs his condemnation at Africans-ge.

     I fail to see the difference.  You've attacked an enormous group of
people, all of whom you've never met, nor upon whom you've produced any
scientific data supporting of your positions.  You hate based upon
upbringing.  Others hate based upon skin color.  Who cares why, you're both
guilty of raw bigotry.  How can you despise a man you've never even met,
conversed, or even observed?

>Moving on, I find that Asian-Americans who identify themselves to be
>American-cu are much more open-minded and much less racist than Chinese-cu
>people.  Not too long ago, there was a small riot in China, protesting
>the dating of African-ge men and Chinese-ge women.  The riot ended with
>Chinese-cu Chinese-ge poliemen applying electrical jolts to the genitalia
>of the African-ge men.  Most of the Chinese-cu said nothing; they agreed
>with the "disciplinary" measures.

>If that isn't racist, I don't what is.

     Racist simply because we haven't immediately leapt to our keyboards?
News flash: some of us have lives which don't revolve around Netnews.  I'm
not waiting poised next to my computer waiting for the next post to appear.

     Furthermore, some issues are naturally going to carry more weight in
a group about *Asian-Americans*.  When I hear about baseball bat wielding
men beating a man to death because of his Asian features, I know it could
have been me.  The incident strikes a cord from my childhood.  It stirs
fear and anger on a deeply emotional level.  When I hear about violence
and racism against some group to which I don't belong, I think it's a damn
shame.  Of course I deplore the incident, but since it doesn't strike that
same emotional cord, I don't feel compelled to immediately launch whatever
measures are likely to discourage such behavior in the future.  I'm not as
directly threatened.  Condemn me for being caring about myself more than
others, call me cold, but don't you dare slap me with the racist label!!!!

     Finally, having heard of some incidents in this forum, I'm inclined not
believe everything I read.  Specifically, you, Dwight Joe, have permanently
impugned your reputation.  I don't trust your ability to report objectively.

>There's another case.  It involves China Airlines.  Acoording to ABC
>News and Reuter's news service, this airline (which is run by Chinese-cu
>folks) has at least 2 requirements that applicants for the position
>of flight attendant must meet.  They are

>   (1)  The applicants must be virgins.
>   (2)  The skin of the applicants must not be too dark.

>In other works, people with black skin need not apply.  As for #1, I'll
>just add that there were some Chinese-cu twits in s.c.a.a., s.c.c, and
>s.c.t arguing _in_ _favor_ of #1.

     China Airlines does not represent the whole of China, or even a
significant segment thereof.  I don't like some of the policies adopted by
Blockbuster Video or Coors Brewing, but I don't extrapolate that to whites.
I don't like some of the positions taken by the *President*, but you won't
see me blindly attacking all of America, or even members of the Republican
Party.

     Hatred of a genetic group, a cultural group, or even a poltical group,
are all the same.  You don't know every member of the group.  You don't
understand each one.  You just hate them.

							George



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