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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Greek food in Santa Cruz (not taverna)
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:18:04 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

Glenn asked me to post this for him -- I do so without further comment:

"Greek restaurants DO exist here. There's Zorba's (of course) in San Jose-
Campbell area. And in Santa Cruz we have Vasili's on Mission St., same side
street that the McDonald's is on. Vasili's is cheap and pretty good. Once
per year, generally one or two weekends after Labor Day, the Greek church in
Downtown Santa Cruz (Locust and Center streets) has an all weekend festival
- food, Greek knik-knaks for sale, dancing, drinking. It's open until 10 PM,
friday and Saturday and 'til 8 PM Sunday.
 
So there, it's not hopeless (just pretty grim).
 
Glenn Nelson, Megatest, San Jose
gnelson@megatest.com"
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From: susumu@octel.com (Susumu Agari)
Subject: summary of where to get lox
Organization: Octel Communications Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:03:28 GMT


thanks for all of the responses I got on where to buy lox.  for anyone
that's interested, here is a summary of the responses.

thanks again!
susumu
===============================================================================
one netter writes:

Try Whole Foods in Palo Alto.  Their nova lox is quite good but not
inexpensive (about $21/lb).  It's the best I've been able to find
in the area.  I find most lox to be too salty and too dry; I like
lox to be very moist and not too salty.  (If you prefer saltier lox,
don't go to Whole Foods...)

For less expensive lox, Trader Joe's sells 3 oz packages (but lox sold
packaged in plastic never seems as fresh as right off the slab..).

===============================================================================

and then BK writes:

Draegers Market in Los Altos.  But your bagels at the Bagel Factory
on Homestead near Mary.  You can also get good bagels at the Plush
Bagel in Los Altos.

===============================================================================

and then SP writes:

The packaged smoked salmon (lox-style) that
Trader Joe's sells is IMO a good value.  

===============================================================================

and DE writes:

I've never gotten it there, but Molly Stone's in Palo Alto
has lox and other Jewish foods that look awfully good. That's
where I'd go if I wanted to buy lox.

...and then KP responds...

I bought some lox pieces from their deli case a few months ago.  It was
only $12 a pound.  The clerk explained that they (the lox, not the clerks)
were ends and pieces, which was why it cost so little...  Bottom line: 
delicious!  And I don't particularly care if my begal is covered by one
piece that I have to fold anyway or a few small pieces.  Tastes the same
(or better)!

===============================================================================
and HP writes:

Price Club occasionally has lox for $10.00/lb. IMHO, it's as good
as any, but I'm no lox connoisseur.

===============================================================================

DD says:

Try Cosentino's deli department.  Located on Homestead east of Lawrence.
Also on Bascom south of Union.  They usually have several different kinds
of smoked salmon (I've gotten both Alaskan and Norwegian) for reasonable
prices.  I've found the Norwegian, which I think runs around $15/lb.,
to be excellent.  But check the price; it's been a couple of months since
I got some there.

===============================================================================

and JL says:

I was in the Posh Bagel in Los Altos on Sunday and they seemed to have many different types. They are located in Downtown Los Altos on Main or First. Their prices may be a little high but you might be able get some questions answered on what to look for.
From: sam@esl.com (Samuel Hahn)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Bangkok Cuisine
Date: 25 Dec 92 00:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: Samuel Hahn <sam@esl.com>
Distribution: ba

In article <11780042@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> chris@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris  
Bostak) writes:
> I just tried a new (to me) Thai restaurant last night.  I don't know how
> long it has been in business.  It's called Bangkok Cuisine. 

I live right near this area, and I believe BC has been there approximately 2  
years.  I don't hear much about this place, but it's one of my two favorite  
Thai places (ok ok, I haven't been to them *all*), the other being Siam  
Garden in Menlo Park.  I do recommend this place.

-- Sam
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (xyz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Evenings and Weekends : All you can eat places ??
Followup-To: ba.food
Date: 22 Dec 1992 20:27:26 GMT
Organization: Human Genome Center at LBL
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (xyz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov
Keywords: Evening/Weekend pig-out joints. NOT LUNCH BUFFETS.

	Hi there folks,

		I and my friends are looking for good all-you-can-eat kind 
	of joints to pig out in. Specifically those that offer an evening 
	buffet or a WEEKEND buffet...... which rules out a lot of Indian 
	restaurants.

		We are kinda too busy to go to places where they have buffets
	at lunch on weekdays. So, we need to find places that are foolish 
	enough to have such a deal for either dinner or on the weekends!!

		Sizzler got rather boring after the first visit. But some other
	place with their kinda deal would work fine. Price is not a major 
	concern for me, but my pals are mostly grad students from Berkeley..... 
	So under 8 bucks would be great.... and oh yes, a couple of them are 
	vegis....

	Thanx a bunch
	Prem!
From: sam@esl.com (Samuel Hahn)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Vallco Williams-Sonoma going bye-bye
Date: 25 Dec 92 00:19:43 GMT
Reply-To: Samuel Hahn <sam@esl.com>
Distribution: ba

In article <Dec.22.06.22.12.1992.26395@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net  
(Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
> The W-S at Vallco opened yesterday with a 50% off everything in the
> store sale, as this location is closing (other W-S stores are remaining
> open).  

Charleen -- Thanks for the tip.  I got there today, and the store was  
practically empty.  Was able to get a floor model breakfast table, though, at  
a pretty good price.  Thx -- Sam
From: dd@adobe.com (David DiGiacomo)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Chinese food on Castro
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:39:58 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Originator: dd@neon

In article <1gtmu4INNegs@gossip.pyramid.com>
jlecount@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (Jason LeCount) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.220158.365@news.csd.sgi.com>
>chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew) writes:
>>8) Fat Wok III - I've been there only once and have one thing to say GROSS!
>>	This is the first time I just couldn't eat the meal.  Anyone who knows
>>	me will say that's impossible cuz I'll eat anything.
>
>God is THAT the truth!  I ate their once, and it was perhaps the nastiest food
>I have ever eaten of ANY type!  Ick!  Don't even CONSIDER it!

Well, I don't understand this.  I've been there a few times, and I thought
the food was quite good.  I especially liked the "Shredded Pork with
Marinated Mustard Greens".  The (newly remodeled) restaurant is not nearly
as tired looking as Fu Lam Mum, Dynasty, Chef Wang, Szechuan Garden etc.,
and the service was pretty good too.  Give it another try.

(I'm not talking about the "Fat Wok Buffet" next door, I haven't tried
that.)
From: HF.NER@forsythe.stanford.edu (Nicole Reed)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Siam Garden
Date: 30 Dec 1992 09:25:19 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I'm going to lunch today to Siam Garden in Menlo Park.  Is this
place any good?  What are good choices to select for a lunch entree?
Any comments appreciated.
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Vallco Williams-Sonoma going bye-bye
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:09:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <1h7f0dINNrbb@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>In article <Dec.22.06.22.12.1992.26395@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>>The W-S at Vallco opened yesterday with a 50% off everything in the
>>store sale, as this location is closing [..]
>
>Okay.  Where's "Vallco"?
>
>
>Steve

Vallco = Vallco Fashion Center, 
	  in Cupertino, 
	  off 280 on Wolfe at Stevens Creek

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: becki@Ingres.COM (Rebecca E. Tants)
Subject: Re: A great place to eat
Reply-To: becki@squid.ingres.com (Rebecca E. Tants)
Organization: Ingres, The ASK Group
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:38:53 GMT

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: ...a call for great pot stickers!
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 05:51:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.174923.14387@leland.Stanford.EDU> shedevil@gw.home.vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, J.D.) writes:
>In a recent missive DaPete@cup.portal.com (Pete o Wilkinson) tells us:

>>Where are the BEST pot stickers `round here?

>The ones from Cho's are [or at least used to be] very good!..Cho's is a
>little hole-in-the-wall on California Ave. in P.A...they have about 2
>tables..but they do take out, *and* sell their product frozen, ready to
>be cooked!

I'll second Cho's. Their pot stickers are wonderful. Why
do you think I moved to California Avenue?



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From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Vallco Williams-Sonoma going bye-bye
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:22:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

The W-S at Vallco opened yesterday with a 50% off everything in the
store sale, as this location is closing (other W-S stores are remaining
open).  Some of the "good stuff" is gone already, like the
KitchenAid mixers, but there was quite a bit of cookware left late
yesterday afternoon.  If you've always wanted a copper saucepan but
couldn't justify the cost, you might want to check it out.

Not everything is a bargain (parchment paper at half-price is still
more expensive than at the Cordon Bleu warehouse in San Carlos), but
they had a bunch o' Calphalon 7 inch omelette pans which were hard to
resist at $8 on sale.

Warning:  the wait in line at the checkout stand was > 1 hour yesterday.

Charleen

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: altinbay@netcom.com (John Altinbay)
Subject: Re:  Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:02:36 GMT

In article <1h4uu8INNe3r@male.EBay.Sun.COM> richardg@cheesewiz.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>I haven't seen anyone mention Tien Fu on Castro. The one in the city on
>Noriega is better, but when I have a hankering for scallion pancakes
>(actually I think they call them green onion pancakes) it is the place
>to go. I think their other dishes are OK. Not great, but not bad
>either.
>

I found this place to be overpriced and mediocre.
	

-- 
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===============================================================
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From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Culture for cheese.
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)

RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>A question a vegetarian friend asked me recently was about the cultures 
>used to make cheese. Is it made from extracts from intestines of calves? 
>I would appreciate an answer from the cognoscenti.

'Kay.  Note, the following may make those cheese-loving vegetarians
among you think twice before biting into that juicy
double-cheeseburger tonight.  You were warned.

Looking through my references, rennin is the actual substance that
causes the coagulation or 'culturing'.  Rennin is the chemical agent
found in rennet, and rennet is traditionally extracted from a calves'
stomach.

Originally, the dried stomach of a newborn calve was used.  You can
add either a brine solution in which a calves stomach has been stored,
or a piece of dry calves stomach.  You can also use a little of the
*content* of they dry calves stomach.  I'd guess that what your
getting is something from the lining, or one of the digestive
chemicals found only in young calves, but none of my texts specify
exactly what part of the stomach is being utilized.  You can buy
rennet dried in a powder form now, but I'd guess that is still
harvested from little baby moo-moos.

I'm sure you can use something other than a calves stomach, since I'd
imagine goat cheese manufacturers would have found some way to not
have to keep cows around as well.  Perhaps someone else can provide
another method using plant materials, or household cleaning solutions
as a catalyst.

I have no data as to what might be used in mass produced cheese.  I'd
doubt we kill enough calves to supply all the cheese makers with
rennet, so I'd bet they use something more distasteful.


From: becky@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Becky Lynn Carroll)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:48:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Evenings and Weekends : All you can eat places ??
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: ba.food

There used to be a great place in Berkely on Telegraph called
Fondue Fred's.  Anytime of day, they had all-you-can-eat fondue
and all-you-can-drink wine (and cheesecake - rich!) if you had
a large party.  I'm not sure if they are still there or how big
they define "large" these days, but it's worth checking into!

I sure miss it!
From: hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re:  Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:31:18 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid


A rather weak defense of Tien Fu.  They used to be fabulous.
The chef had moved down from the SF location.  Since then he
has gone back to the SF shop, and the food in MtView dropped
a lot in just about every category.

Is the special beef in SF as good as it used to be down here?
I might make a special trip.

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From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Garlic Garlic Garlic
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:32:21 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1hp0nnINNbmg@gw.home.vix.com> shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD) writes:
>In a recent missive tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates) tells us:
>*I love garlic. My fiancee loves garlic.  We eat lots of garlic.
>*When we order pizza, we order 5X the amount normally added.
>
>[editor's shears]
>
>P.P.S.  Supposedly eating parsley, or taking parsley capsules, will
>offset the garlic.

Actually, anything with a lot of chlorophyll (dark green leaves) can help.

If you can't find parsley capsules, spirulina, chlorella capsules will
work, as will greens such as chard, kale, or those gourmet lettuces.
So have a big green salad with garlic dressing to go with your garlic
pizza!

-r
From: allen@kamet.det.dec.com (Allen "b.b." Leibowitz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Hong Kong FLower Lounge
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:13:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Farmington Hills, MI
Distribution: ba
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X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Was:  Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View

doctor@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Terry Fong) writes:
: No, you're not! Chef Chu's is certainly overrated. The food is
: essentially "westernized" Hong Kong style chinese, and certainly
: overpriced. I agree that the food is quite bland.

Any other opinions on the Hong Kong Flower Lounge in Milbrae?
It is definitely upscale, but the food is good enough to warrant
the drive.  I try to stop there on my way to or from the airport
when I get to the bay area.  Obviously it is Hong Kong style. 

 --
Allen Leibowitz
DEC ULTRIX Resource Center       <allen@det.dec.com>
Farmington Hills, Michigan  USA
From: blanch@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (David Blanchard)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:17:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Chinese food on Castro
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: ba.food

My Chinese lady and I eat at Fat Wok III with some regularity and have
never had a bad experience. The food is always quite good. Of all the
places on Castro, this is the one we usually prefer.

DavidOB --- blanch@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com

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From: bcowden@bellahs.com (Bill Cowden)
Subject: Re: Vallco Williams-Sonoma going bye-bye
Organization: Bell Atlantic Healthcare Systems
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:34:15 GMT

In article <1h7f0dINNrbb@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>In article <Dec.22.06.22.12.1992.26395@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>>The W-S at Vallco opened yesterday with a 50% off everything in the
>>store sale, as this location is closing [..]
>
>Okay.  Where's "Vallco"?
>
>
>Steve

Cupertino.  Specifically, at the intersection of I280 and Wolfe Rd.  From I280, take
the Wolfe Road exit and go south on Wolfe.  (Make a left on Wolfe coming from San Jose 
or make a right on Wolfe if coming from SF.) You can't miss Vallco (actually, Vallco
Fashion Park) as Wolfe Road goes underneath the mall.

I would imagine that by the time this post reaches the net, the store will
have been picked clean.  Good luck.

--Bill
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Greek food in Santa Cruz (not taverna)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date:  2 Jan 93 17:30:56 GMT

>"Greek restaurants DO exist here. There's Zorba's ...                 


   After a decade of exploring Greek restaurants, I can offer the
following rules to live by:

   1)  Never draw to an inside straight.

   2)  Never play cards with a man named "Doc."

   3)  Never eat at anyplace called "Zorba's."
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Vallco Williams-Sonoma going bye-bye
Date: 22 Dec 1992 16:16:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

In article <Dec.22.06.22.12.1992.26395@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:

>The W-S at Vallco opened yesterday with a 50% off everything in the
>store sale, as this location is closing [..]

Okay.  Where's "Vallco"?


Steve
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Ravioli
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:54:42 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <1gt5bpINN5fv@male.EBay.Sun.COM> richardg@cheesewiz.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Ok, I'm a man with a mission. Where can I get OUTSTANDING cheese
>ravioli in the Palo Alto area? As a reference standard, I want to use
>ravioli from the Pastosa Ravioli Store in Brooklyn. Come on, there must
>be some ex-NYers out there who know what I'm talking about. I can't get
>up to SF before Christmas, and I'm not likely to get to San Jose
>either. I'm looking for somewhere between Redwood City and Sunnyvale.
>Actually, Milpitas would work also.
>
>I await the net wisdom and experience.
>
I've been to NY, worked and taught computer operations at
the exchange and at NBC (when they were still there) had a chance to 
taste a number of great Italian delicasies - never made it to Brooklyn
to try Pastosa though, so I can't compare...

also, do you mind driving to San Jose???

Pianto's
3443 Stevens Creek Blvd
(408) 243-5336

it's an Italian deli that makes their own Ravioli, meat balls, pizza -
Italians in the greater San Jose area order their Christmas raviolis here

its also THE place to order raviolis, etc for the local catered Italian 
weddings and other get togethers....

to me, the best Italian food (raviolis, pasta, pizza, etc) is at David
Cosetta's place near 7-corners in downtown St. Paul, MN - but,
since I can only get David's food when I go back there, or when mom
comes out for a visit and brings some, I have found, what I consider
to be one of the best places around - Pianto's is a family run deli -
their fodd has been written up in the food section of the San Jose
Mercury News - I don't think you'll far wrong stopping by here - 
you can even call ahead for your orders..

ENJOY

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From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Evenings and Weekends : All you can eat places ??
Keywords: Evening/Weekend pig-out joints. NOT LUNCH BUFFETS.
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:13:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <22DEC199213202889@addvax.llnl.gov> DougLim@llnl.gov writes:
>In article <1h7tneINNlvu@overload.lbl.gov>, prem@prem.lbl.gov (xyz) writes...
>>		I and my friends are looking for good all-you-can-eat kind 
>>	of joints to pig out in. Specifically those that offer an evening 
>>	buffet or a WEEKEND buffet...... which rules out a lot of Indian 
>>	restaurants.
>
How about Pipers in San Leandro?  I don't know if it's still there, but
it used to be just the kind of thing you want.  Don't know if it was
available Saturday or just Sunday.

Personally, I like Fresh Choice but you must know about them already.
From: glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU (Adam Glass)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Cafe 1843? (used to be Christopher's)
Date: 26 Dec 92 16:12:39
Organization: Organization is evil.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: erewhon.cs.berkeley.edu


Anybody know anything good or bad about a place called 'Cafe 1843' on Solano?
It used to be called Christopher's.

Someone chose it randomly as a site for a birthday dinner and wants to know what they've gotten themselves into...

later,
Adam Glass
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