From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Re: Latest news on the March.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:16:47 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

In article <1992Nov19.191522.6457@gw.wmich.edu>, 92ali@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.185001.6455@gw.wmich.edu>, x90kamali1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> > In article <1992Nov19.200538.21330@sol.UVic.CA>, ahussain@engr.UVic.CA (Amyn  Hussain) writes:
|> >> In article 10302@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, ousi_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Omer Usmani) writes:
|> >>>
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|> > 
|> > It's obvious that army will be back in less than one year.
|> > But I don't know, wheather that will be better for the country 
|> > or not. Any comment on the current Pakistan situation.
        

|> > 
|> >Common Shakir....
|>    Come backcome back in to the real world after all the army is your protector
|> if india attacks pakitan who will defend...obviusly the army...so don't be
|> perinoid regarding the army...Pray to ALLAH that what ever is beneficial to
|> the country occurs...
|> 


May be I am wrong and hope that whatever is in my mind is not right. 
My observation and thinking is that politicians, fuedal lords, and 
army in Pakistan are protecting the interest of each other.  They
have set their turns for come and go but in actual they are all busy
in achieving their targets. Targets, that have nothing to do with
the prosperity of Pakistan or the well being of Pakistan.  

I was very embarrased, when I met an army major in Denver last April, he
was doing his masters in Political Science with major emphasis on
foreign affairs.  Tell me how on earth army need this kind of an
education and this kind of training?  And to add more fuel,  he was
an stinking jamati.  Two worst were together, so pray and pray hard. 

Has any one seen a politician, a big landlord or a big army general
(well in army corruption starts right from captain, why jump so
high) punished in public or even somewhere for wrong doings. Not,
that I know off.  An army major found spying for India is now a 
minister, guess who....no one else but major nadir pervaiz.  Some 
army person can confirm this...btw, my roommate is from Pakistan 
army and this is his story. Gohar Ayub, person who let his father
down because of his moral bankruptcy and heard that he is now a
speaker of National Assembly.  Famous, Ghaus Ali shah is now defence
minister....I doubt that such a corrupt person was a highcourt judge,
can't be, but in Pakistan an impossible is possible so I can buy that.
This name dropping is not going to end so why waste our time and energy
for these scumb bags.

Last advice for those who still believe that army is going to safe
you from India, that, come out of your sweet dreams it will not hurt 
much.  Those days were long gone when it was capable of something, now
they are smugglers, god fathers of dacoits, theifs and characterless.
Just use your brain, these idiots take more than 6o% of our budget 
and spend on things which we don't need.  Ignorance is one of the
biggest crime in this world and unfortunately we are all ignorant.
Every army in the world justify its position by creating its own
enemy.  Look, what US army has done after world war II. Germany's 
power was totally crushed and there was no danger from anyone, they
started a Cold War against Russia, that lastest more than forty years 
and American nation is now in a debt of trillions.  Situation back
home is not so different even though the intensity of it is a little 
less.  One strong argument against building super military power is
that after keeping our nation poor and uneducated what they want to
defend??? Look what these generals have done to Wapda, PIA, shaheen
foundation, Fugi Foundation, Steel Mill.  Instead of having highly
qualified people at key technical postions, we have third division
third class stupid generals, academically rejected group of fifties 
and sixties. The argument behind it is that they are more disciplined,
dork. More disciplined in what? ,'corruption'. 

Enough said, I don't want to hit anyone hard and please don't take
that I am against those noncommission officers.  I am for them and
will remain with them.  I have great respect for those people as they
are the real meat.  
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SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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Two army captains were arguing on sex, whether it is pleasure or hard
labour.  One of them asked his subordinate that what do you think
about it.  The subordinate replied after some hesitation that he
doesn't know what it is, but sure that it is not hard labour b'cos
if it is hard labour then you would have ordered us to do.