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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: jane's addiction/perry ferral/porno for piros
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:35:24 GMT

From article <1a20flINNbq@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, by ryant@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ryan Charles Tomasetti):
> 	Excuse me!  Perry Farrel is a musician, an entertainer.  His social
> life has nothing to do with his abilities.  As far as the musical world goes,

	True...

> drugs have been a significant part of some musicians lives.  Sure, it may have

	This is true too...

> 	I really do not understand how you could abhor Perry Farrel, but that
> is your own opinion.  Aside from that, there is no reason for your useless
> drool on this system.  Learn to accept people for who they are, not what they
> do!  

	I too have learned to love Jeffery Dahmer for the person that
he is...his accomplishments notwithstanding.

	But seriously, I *do* think Perry is a prick, if nothing more
than breaking up JA.  No, I've never met the guy, so everything I know
about him personally is from interviews on television and in print.
My impression from them is that he's very much into control (he apparently
said after leaving Psi Comm that the reason why he wanted relative
youngsters from HS like Steve and Dave was so that they'd be young enough
to do what he said).  Someone in the JA mailing list related a story about
how they had gone to meet Perry at Lollapaloza(sp) I expecteding to meet
this really neat guy, and all he did was try to bum a joint off them...
Perry is *not* the kind person I would want to hang out with, or 
even meet for that matter...

	I *do* however, like the music he makes, whether it be in
JA, or the snipits of PfP.  

 TTYL
 Chris
From: na-rt451@andy.bgsu.edu (Ann Shea-Jipson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Dave Kendall
Keywords: Hair
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:15:56 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.


What is the deal with Dave Kendall's hair? He seems to have a descending
hair line or something.  I used to watch the show back in 1988, and the man
was bald!  I turned it on 2 months ago and there it was on top of his
head. It must be that Killing Joke hair restorer...
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From: wlamonac@cezanne.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Subject: Re: Give me a bomb!  A malatov! <-artist?
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:21:17 GMT

In article <wajzh-b@rpi.edu> mageej@rpi.edu writes:
>There's going to be a big sale this comming weekend, and there's a group
>I want to get some music from, only I can't remember their name... But here's
>some random lyrics
>
>Coup de tau!
>Give me a bomb!
>A malatov...
>.
>.
>.
>first the president then his wife
>it's all set up we'll do it tonight
>.....  take their lives!
>
>Coup de tau (they say this a lot)
>
>Any help is apreciated.  Thanks!
>
>-Jeff
>
>-- 
>I'm a *Sun-King* baby...  (mageej@rpi.edu)
>-- 

Sounds like it might be "Coup d'Etat" by Black Flag.

		-Bill
From: z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: DM
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:01:50 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <BvK5qM.B5r@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
> ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
> 
>>eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
> 
>>>Does anyone know when Depeche Mode is coming out with a new album?
> 
>>Last I heard, they were in the studio.
> 
> So what does this mean in terms of release dates?
> 
>>-- 
>>| Ishir Bhan | ibhan@husc.harvard.edu   |
> 
> Ed.
> 

Last spring, I talked with an alternative radio station in Austin, Tx.  They
had a long distance interview with Alan Wilder a few days before about the 
release of his solo album.  When asked the question of when a new DM album 
would be out, Alan said that the group was currently in Spain (Barcelona, I 
believe) finishing up the recording part of the album and that the album
would hopefully be out by late fall if all goes according to plan.

--Blitz
                             "When you think you've got a hold of it all,
			      you haven't got a hold at all.
			      When you reach the top, get ready to drop,
			      prepare yourself for the fall.
			      You're gonna fall, it's almost predictable...
                              almost!"
	       			       --'Get the Balance Right,'  Depeche Mode
				
			                                          
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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: The Black Room? (KLF)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:42:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.225316.4957@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:
>From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
>Subject: The Black Room? (KLF)
>Date: 27 Sep 92 22:53:16 GMT
>After The White Room, KLF started another album called, "The Black
>Room," but broke up before they finished. Are there any singles or
>concert bootlegs off this almost album?
>
>Much appreciated,
>          LX

First of all: The Black Room is not a KLF project (in the name, that is).
It is an album recorded by the team's hobby-band, "The Jams" or "The 
Justified Ancient of Mu-mu's". It was recorded right after they had finished 
The White Room as they at that point was "sick" of KLF. It was planned to be 
released early -92, but was postponded till this autumn due to their sudden 
huge success with the white room. Spring or summer this year the KLF went 
thrue a heap of troubles, lawsuits among other things, the last I heard they 
had broke up completely. KLF that is, not Rockman Rock and that other guy. 
When this happened they decided to stop release of all KLF related projects 
indefenitly. And finally yes, there is atleast one single out from The Black 
Room. It's called "It's Lonely Up North", I believe. Not quite sure about 
that last bit though.
Hope this clears up a few things.
Also hope I am not wrong.


          /\           | I didn't say this.      | "I never forget a
        /    \         | My supervisor would     | face. Especially
      /        \       | kill me if i did.       | when I've sat
    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________| on it."
  /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          | -Kathleen Turner
/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| Crimes of passion
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 18:05:57 -0400 
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Negativland

First of all, good luck finding the "U2 Negativland" single.  It is
waaaaaay out of print currently, and is even fetching prices of up to
$175 (so I'd heard).  If you want to hear the two songs on the single
(there are only two songs), you can try the Copyright Violation Squad,
who are offering to copy it from digital masters.  If you want to give
this a try, send $7.00 in cash to

CVS
2103 Harrison NW, Suite 2101
Olympia WA  98502-2607

(this information is from _The Letter U And The Numeral 2)

As for their other stuff, you should probably start with _Escape From
Noise_, their 1987 LP.  It is their most accessable work, and contains
some things which might be termed 'songs'.  If you like this, get _A Big
10-8 Place_ which is probably their masterpiece.  If you like this, you
are a died in the wool Negativland fan, and should get all of their
stuff.  I'll make the request to I make to everybody when discussing
Negativland, and this is PLEASE order all your stuff from
Negativmailorderland.  The band gets a bigger cut of the money, which
they desperately need.  Also, SST gets less money.  Finally, it is
probably the only way to get the stuff that is on Seeland records.  The
address is:

Negativmailorderland
109 Minna #391
San Francisco, CA  94105

Write to them to get more information.  Hope this helps,

Joshua Buergel      | Every time she slit her wrists
allroy+@cmu.edu     | I wish she hit instead of missed.
jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu | Every secret family crime
                    | All my love a waste of time.
                    |    - ALL, Scary Sad
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The failed promise of CD (part n of many)
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:13:55 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

George W. Sherouse, who I've not seen here for *ages*, writes:
>
>...one of the things that was supposed to make
>CDs worth all that extra money was their inherent dynamic range
>advantage.  This was a nice thought, particulary to us middle-era King
>Crimson fans who would have killed to hear The Talking Drum in its
>full glory.  But, at least in the "rock" world, I have not seen much
>evidence of this dynamic range.  It appears that regardless of the
>hype, stuff gets mixed flat.

There are *some* exceptions to this. In addition to being a marvelous
recording all on its own, Talk Talk's "Laughing Stock" makes a pretty
decent use of your average "whisper to a scream" dynamics, as does its
predecessor "Spirit of Eden." Have you found the remastered KC stuff
to your liking on "Lark's Tongues," George?

Perhaps part of the problem lies in the notion of dynamics for popular
music in general; one could posit that wide dynamic ranges within a 
single piece would only make sense for the singer/songwriter [troubadour]
type. I cannot see where Sonic Youth really *needs* it. Aaaah....maybe
I should amend that to suggest something amenable to Romanticism in 
general [volume = passion]. 

Now I *can* think of discs which explicitly instruct you to play them
loudly or softly [i.e., to try and match the range of the recorded
performance to the situations of listening]: Morton Feldman's piano
works [play softly. They're notated to be right on the edge of inaudibility]
and Arnold Dreyblatt's Orchestra of Excited Strings [crank it way up to
hear the little ghostly harmonics], but these aren't in the "popular"
mode  Hey - how about Eno's "Thursday Afternoon?"

--
I've never had much real control over things. The music of pianos, for example,
is the dead world where I loved the machine of my small freedoms, one of the 
crowd in his best clothes despite the weather, the Eastern snow like the 
distinct sound of pianos over the airfield. The music lifts and swells.
From: dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ebeneezer Goode...
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:38:44 PST
Organization: BBS


Hey Brian (bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu), how come I haven't heard this song
playing at the local SF raves?...Am I just hitting them at the wrong time (like
2-3am?)

Off topic, I know...But I love this song!

dlaird@terapin.com
From: woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: <None>
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:15:46 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: emp1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  2 Oct 92 21:22:45 GMT

rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer) writes:

>I agree!  I have a friend who seems to think "Hunkpapa" was something that
>emerged from his toilet one day, even though he really likes the first two
>albums.  I think it has several great points, it's just that some of the songs
>are quite obviously filler ("Burrow", "Take").  "Mania" and "Bea" alone make
>the album worthy of buying.

Ahem.  

Anyway, I think "Hunkpapa" lacks interesting guitar work (which made their earlier stuff better) and just sounds too damn poppy (those horns on "Take" make it sound like a Phil Collins song)...It's not a BAD album (I like "Angel", "Dragonhead", and "Devil's Roof" okay), but I'm sure they could've made it a lot more interesting.

They were on 120 Minutes when "Hunkpapa" came out, and admitted that it was easy to do stuff like that...Kristin also called the video to "Dizzy" something like "a piece of junk" (which it was)...I don't understand how they can make a truly brilliant video like "Soul Soldier" (my favorite video of all time) and make some yucko video like "Not Too Soon" or "Dizzy"...blech.

...Robey, I did like "The Real Ramona" better than "Hunkpapa", so they aren't really getting worse and worse...

"a friend"

'I've got a fish nailed to a cross on my apartment wall'


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: NEGATIVLAND TOUR DATES
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:17:42 GMT

omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler) writes:

>WHAT?! Not one date anywhere NEAR the west coast?  Is there no hope?

Maybe there is some escape from the noise. I'd expect they'd at least
do a gig in San Francisco to warm upbefoer the tour. I may try faxing them
todays about some other questions I have, so if I find out anything I'll
post it. 

  - malcolm 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kang@stolaf.edu (Joseph S Kang)
Subject:  Spent Poets
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:27:09 GMT

Hey, I got this really cool sampler from Stoli, as in the vodka company. 
Anyway, there is a band on there called the Spent Poets.  Does anyone 
out there have more info on these guys?  I think that they were from
San Francisco.

Thanks.

-Joe
-- 
Joseph Kang      |  Disclaimer:  Whether you believe it or not, the views
kang@stolaf.edu  |               expressed in the above article are all mine.
                 |  		 Unless I've been brain-washed and don't know
St. Olaf College |    		 it or don't notice the difference. :-)
From: v079ql9q@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (I got a Catholic Block.....)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <91553@netnews.upenn.edu>, tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Tsai) writes...
>I'm going to see the Mighty Mighty Bosstones next Friday at the Trocadero in
>Philadelphia.  I've heard of them before, but I've never heard of their stuff.
>Show's only 8 bucks, though, and next weekend is in the middle of exams, so it
>was too good a deal to pass up.  Someone please tell me what they're like. 
>I've been told that they play ska, which I am totally unfamiliar with.  Lemme
>know that they're like; not that it really matters since I'm going anyway, but
>I like to have some idea before I get there.
> 
>Thanks...
> 
>JJT	tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

Take reggae, ska(reggae for skinheads), and speed matel, and you have the
Bosstones.  I've seen them three times, loved 'em each time!

Later-

Shane
From: sdavis@creek.eel.ufl.edu (Scott W. Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirvana
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:04:47 GMT
Reply-To: edo@ugrad.ee.ufl.edu
Organization: UF EE Department (Graduate Student)

In article <1992Sep25.143913.25566@cs.tulane.edu>, butterwo@cs.tulane.edu  writes:
|>     
|>   Comparing Rush to a shot-out-I'm-gonna-have-a-baby-on-heroin-no-talent-my-
|> two-year-old-cousin-can-play-better-music-I'm-plastered-all-over-mtv-and-am-
|> famous-for-one-song-gee-lets-break-some-more-instruments-because-we're-cool-
|> and-way-overblown-will-disappear-in-about-another-year-band like nirvana really
|> hurts my feelings.  I stopped listening to nirvana the moment I found out dick-
|> less fudgepackers like you listen them.  The reason you stopped listening to
|> the almighty RUSH is because your brain stopped developing at age 15.  By the
|> way, its Neil Peart--learn how to spell moron.
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> Blake

Hey Blake.., easy on the coffee bro.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Subject: Re: Question on Pixies
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:47:15 GMT

You should get Bossonova and form your own opinion on it as it seems to
differ quite alot from what I've read on the net most people seem to
think it's their worst . I think it's one of their best .
And Wimpey???????????????? What about songs like "Rock Music " ,"Hang
Wire ".
Most people I know (excluding the net) agree that Bossonova is one of
their favourites.So get it and give it a chance and change it if you
don't like it .
Peter.
From: enriquek@ucs.orst.edu (everyday oozer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Hey KELLY! INfo on Former PJ...
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:46:32 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU


Was that the post about them being part of Green River and then
Mother Love Bone?  I already knew all of that.  I also found out
that they were called Mookie Blaylock...but that still doesn't change
the fact that I never heard of them until I saw them on MTV...not
that this is so amazing since a lot of people probably found out about
PJ via MTV.  I still find it kinda odd that I never saw them play in Seattle
(after Wood died and before MTV).  But there are a lot of bands in Seattle
and I suppose I could've just not noticed PJ/Mookie Blaylock.  But if they
were such a great local band wouldn't I have noticed reviews in the
Rocket or something?  Hmmm....

Kelly
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mats@pluto.dss.com (Mats Liliedahl)
Subject: An Emotional Fish ?
Organization: Datability, Carlstadt, NJ
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:28:24 GMT


 Does anybody have any information about some new material from the band
 An Emotional Fish?  Their first (?) album last year (w. Celebrate etc.)
 became one of my favourite albums, but I haven't heard anything from 
 them since.  Hopefully they're still around...
 Pls post any info.

 Thanks,
 Mats  (mats@doc.dss.com)

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Duet Emmo
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: world, local
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:58:04 GMT

Recently someone posted reviews of the first two discs of the DOMEBOX
collection (Dome 1&2 and Dome 3&4).  Was there a review of the third disc
(Duet Emmo "Or So It Seems") posted?  If it was, could someone e-mail me a
copy of it if they still have it? 

The only Gilbert/Lewis stuff that I have is the Duet Emmo 12" for "Or So It
Seems", the 2 He Said CDs, and some Wire Stuff.  Is it still possible to get
CD copies of the Gilbert/Lewis stuff on 4AD?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: jane's addiction/perry ferral/porno for pi
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:05:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.150140.3304@newscan.canada.sun.com>, andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.Com (Andre Giroux # let me outta here) writes:
|> Jane's addiction is just great. I just bought  Ritual de lo habitual.
|> a song called 'been caught stealing ' is a must-hear...
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know where you've been, but _Been caught stealing_  made the
commercial charts here about mid '91. IMHO there previous album is far
better (ie Nothings Shocking) with the ultimately wicked single
_Mountain Song_. However if you like _Been caught stealing_ then you
might'nt like Nothings Shocking as much.

Mark. :^)

 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Subject: Re: Superchunk
Reply-To: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Organization: RDR, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:47:34 GMT

Anthony J Pierre writes
> 
> hello, net world, can anyone tell me if they've heard superchunk?

Yeah I saw Superchunk at the Ritz in NYC a few months back, along  
with Pavement and My Bloody Valentine.  Egg-sellent show.  I thought  
Superchunk put on the best show of the three.

If anyone can get me the bass player's phone # -- the cute redhead --  
I'd appreciate it :-).

Can anyone tell me something about Pavement?  From the concert, they  
just sonded like one guy screaming and another guy with a bass  
guitar, sort of like Godflesh but with no distortion box.

Also, can anyone tell me about any albums that sound like My Bloody  
Valentine's "Loveless"?  I like the album, but a fanzine described  
their concert best -- "90 minutes of poorly mixed, overamplified  
cacophony".


Randy
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Miracle Legions of fans? YES.
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:41:50 GMT


>I have a hard time believing all the negative responses I'm hearing
>about Miracle Legion.  Went to see 'em in concert in Atlanta last
>year.  One of the best shows I've seen in years... except that we 
>were only two of a handfull who showed up.  The rest of the city was
>out observing a Michael Jackson "Beat It" tribute or something.

	yeah..Me and Mr ray is a good album , hum , but let's
	say , miracle legion is more a part-time band than a 
	full time band, yeah , they should play more music
	and think less about fishing. . . . 

	SAY NOBODY LIKES  THE VULGAR BOATMEN HERE ?


>"Everything is rosy now!!!"

>--
>Paul (deaverpf@infonode.ingr.com)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins - boxed CD set
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:22:53 GMT

hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall) writes:

>I've been eyeing the Cocteau Twins' boxed CD set for a while now,
>but the box doesn't give much of a clue about what's in there.
>I saw the word "single" on there, which makes me think it's just
>a bunch of CD singles.  Not even the four song EP's?  No albums?
>What *is* in there?  Is it worth $70?

	I have CTBOX1 and it's all their EPs from go to whoa for their 4AD
days, plus a four track thing with "Crushed" from _Lonely Is An Eyesore_,
the instrumental version of "Oomingmak" (from the video of LIAE), a track
off Melody Maker's _Gigantic! 2_ compilation called "The High Monkey-Monk"
(excellent) and a previously unreleased song called "Dials" (also excellent).
It's on ten CDs, i.e. "Lullabies", "Peppermint Pig", "Sunburst and Snowblind",
"Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops", "Aikea-Guinea", "Tiny Dynamine", "Echoes in a
Shallow Bay", "Love's Easy Tears", "Iceblink Luck" and the four-rare-tracks
one I mentioned before.  It's *everything* they've released that's not on
the albums (apart from the Peel Session on the _Garlands_ CD only).

	All the EPs have all the tracks of the vinyl versions, plus the
7" version if that was any different.  (i.e. on "Peppermint Pig" and "Pearly-
Dewdrops' Drops").  Cover art is the same, but there's no additional stuff
like a booklet or anything...leads you to believe there's not much love
lost between a label and its flagship band when the latter decide to leave!

	Is that worth $70?  Yes.  (Here in Australia it cost me $145...
but that was the limited edition UK pressing, and I was able to defray the
cost by selling my other copies of the EPs)

>Also, I once saw a Japanese pressing of this boxed set, for nearly
>double the price.  Is it worth ~$130?  What's the difference?

	No idea...I reckon the only pressing worth seeking out especially
would be the UK one because it's limited and also the original one.  Maybe
the Japanese one has extra bits and pieces like lyric sheets!!  (They nearly
always do...even for the Cocteaus, I think!)

>Incidentally, I have all the records up until the last couple of CD's,
>when I switched to CD's.

	Good, aren't they?  (_Garlands_ is my favourite, though for different
				reasons to why I like the others)

			Regards,

				Matthew.
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Enough of this PJ stuff
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:13:50 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

PJ not breaking up? Too bad...But is that really alternative?  IMO Screaming
Trees is much more preferable.  

Besides, PJ is for PJ O'rourke, not a rock and roll and band.

Ted Kalivoda