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From: kathy@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu 
Subject: Re: Hartz Blockade???
Originator: usenet@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:29:00 GMT
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In article <16862B0A8.SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com>, SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com writes...
> 
>   I regret it now, but after 1 year I have let Squeaky out of the house.  At f
>irst it was to be on the portch with me.  You know the rest, I'm a softy.  I go
>t her a flea collar, yet doubt how well they repell fleas.  I found on clearanc
>e, some Hartz Blockage.  It's supposeto repell fleas and work for 30 days.  Doe
>s anyone have any experience with it?  It just seems to me that at one time I h
>eard some bad reports.  I would guess possibly a reaction.  Squeaky already see
>ms a we bit irritated by the collar (occasional scratching in it's general area
>).  I won't take any chances with the Blockade until I get other's opinion.  Th
>anks in advance for your help.  Spencer Doggett.
> 
HI!
	I would never use Hartz Blockade on my dogs or my cats.  It was taken 
off the market for a while because of all the problems it was causing.  For
some reason it was declared safe and returned to the shelves.  Declared safe
or not, I work at a vet clinic and see and hear numerous reports of dogs and
cats having severe reactions to it.  Sometimes death!  If people have had
good results with it, great, but why take the chance?  There's quite a few
saf
	I just reread your note and saw you said "Hartz Blockage".  I've
never heard of it but if it's like "Hartz Blockade", be careful!	
............................................................................
Kathy Greenwood                  
Math Major (believe it or not!)   
University of Oklahoma            

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From: jll@doc.ic.ac.uk (Janice )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: I NEED A NAME
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:48:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Imperial College London
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HI,


TONITE MY PARTNER AND I HAVE GOT THE IMMENSE PLEASURE OF BRINGING
HOME A NEW 10WEEK OLD TOM KITTEN.  HE IS VERY FLUFFY 
WITH GREY AND WHITE PATCHES AND A BLACK SPOTTY NOSE.
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS - WHAT TO NAME HIM?  SO FAR WE 
HAVE COME UP WITH SMOKEY, BADGER, ARCHIE AND MICKIE.
HAS ANYONE ANY *GOOD* SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRETTY GREY AND WHITE
KITTEN?

TU IN ADVANCE

Janice AND Marcus.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Problem with Feline
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:51:43 GMT

In article <19873@plains.NoDak.edu> myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:
>or next to you acting all really lovey, butting heads, etc.  However,
>some times when a person is petting her she will turn around and
>bite for no apparent reason.  She doesn't even give a customary
>growl or flick of the tail warning.  Has anyone else experienced
>this or may know what is causing it?  My wife is getting a little
>tired of being bitten from petting her.  Thanks

I've had this problem with one of my cats (the only female I've "owned"), and
believe it is usually more of a problem with females than males.  It seems to
be an instinctive reaction.  With Samantha, I just eventually learned how many
times I could pet her before she would bite.

This reminds me of a Sunday comic from a few weeks ago ("Pickles", I think?):

    Husband: (With cat on lap) "Why is the cat biting me?"
    Wife: "Because you're not petting her!"

    Husband pets cat for awhile, then,

    Husband: "NOW, why is the cat biting me?  I was petting her!"
    Wife: "Because she knew you were thinking of stopping!"

(Quotes from memory, may not be totally accurate.)

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings.
From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Date: 12 Sep 1992 05:18:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Hmmm...  My two are nuts about the tub, too.  Especially
Phoebe, who I've seen pawing and scratching the inside, as
if she was "settling in"-- figure THAT one out.  I was afraid
she'd been checking out one of those kitten improvement books,
How to Teach your Cat to Use the Toilet, etc., but it's not
a litter scratchover she's been doing.  It's an "I own this place."
 
I think she finds that general area of the house very interesting,
because there's the sound of water in my very old pipes, and a
drip or two from the faucet every so often to lap.  You and I are
netmates. If you're from my part of town, you might have a big
tubs wi/feet like I have.  Enough space for a kitty playground.
Favorite game here is "Let's visit Niagra falls and ride the
Maid of Mist."  I had to put up a second shower curtain, to keep the
wall dry.  It's totally transparent.  So, when I take my shower,
Phoebe or Zoe or both jump up on the rim and watch through the
clear plastic.  Gets pretty funny.  The trick they like me to
do best is "find the washcloth with shampoo in the eyes."
 
So, why tubs?  Good entertainment, scenes of natural wonder,
climate control, easy to maintain, and stuff you nose up the
sides will roll down and around, since it's smooth and slippery.
That's a plus when it comes to playing with little thingums,
like milk rings.  Guess it's like having a top quality golf
course.  Good turf.
-- 




Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Feline Hangover response
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:24:21 GMT
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For those of you who read the story about the "stoned" cat, I would like
to clarify that catnip is not a drug and there is no problems with giving
it to your cat.  There was a big thing on the net about this last
semester.  Catnip is an herb and is, I'm pretty sure, related to the
mint family.

	-Kristen
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Conversations with cats
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <ERICJ.92Sep8125931@calcutta.cfsat.Honeywell.COM> (rec.pets.cats), ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
> In article <4SEP199216254335@jetson.uh.edu> hcls7@jetson.uh.edu (Marino, Nancy F.) writes:
> 
> 
>    answers to it. We may have the only cats who actually come when called. Our
>    firends think it's pretty funny that they can "talk" to these kitties in this
>    way.
> 
> I used to think there weren't many cats that would come when called, but I
> have since been educated. Our current cat is pretty good about this and
> will even respond to flashing the porch light at night.

One of my cats like to spend the evening out back.  When it's time
to close up the house at bedtime, I just whistle and she comes running.

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From: meyer@uuisis.isis.org (Katherine Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Another cat?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:39:13 GMT
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)

jill@mpd.tandem.com (Jill Jones) asked:
Should I get another kitten and are Three cats much more trouble that two. 
Will Abigail warm up to the kitten?

=============
GO FOR IT!!!  I think the everyone will be happy.  I used to have three or
four cats but over the last few years the population dropped.  So I had a
cat who was on her own for 2 or 3 years.  She is five now.  This spring I
got two kittens (littermates).  At first my cat was not too thrilled about
it.  But over the last few weeks she has finally started to include them
in her activities.  Now they have washing circles, sleep together and just
plain have kitty conversations.  My female is an indoors/outdoors cat so the
little ones are always thrilled to see her.  I guess its something like when
a mom comes home from work and her children greet her.  I hope soon they
will all be able to come and go from the house as they please.
Three cats are not (a lot) more trouble than two.  Just think..you'll never
be short of a lap warmer.  And Yes, Abigail will warm up to the kitten (at
least she should).  Just give her lots of time and give them all lots of 
attention.  Good luck!

Katherine
MEYER@UUISIS.ISIS.ORG
Organization: Business Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:58:45 -0400 
From: Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Cats & Cameras, was Re: Cat Antlers
	<18b7n6INNc6e@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello) writes:

>I've found that you can't really get them to pose, but if you follow one
>around with a camera, it'll eventually do something pictureworthy.  I've
>shown people my cat pictures and they'll say "How did you get her to pose
>like that?"  "Oh, I just stalked her for a couple of hours, like wild game!"

I've done the same to get a few good pictures -- and lots of lousy
pictures.  If I try to get a shot when she is doing something cute --
even sleeping somewhere -- she always moves before the the camera is out
and flash warms up.  Friends took a picture of their cat leaping into
the air -- it only took one whole roll of film and two people (one to
play and one to shoot).

On a related note -- my neighbors want a good picture of their cat
before he says goodby (he's very old and has a BAD case of FUS which
they can't totally control).  I tried to take pictures of him, but he
was totally freaked out by the camera (he hides when I come over now). 
Is this enough stress to bring on an FUS attack?  I'd really like to
give them a good picture -- they take care of my cat whenever I go away,
and it's the least I can do -- but I don't want to kill poor old
Butterball!

Diane and Suki
Carnegie Mellon University

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bba@donuts3 (Binayak Banerjee)
Subject: Retro-siamese?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:55:20 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Hi,

This is sort of those what breed are they questions (sort of).

I have a couple of wonderful cats.  I will refrain from singing their
praises... However, they are 1/2 siamese, 1/4 Birman and 1/4 generic
gray cat.  They are colored just like a siamese -- but are large and
solid cats.  Felix (my male) weighs in at 16 lbs (and he isn't
overweight).  Snowflake (his sister from a different litter) tips the
scales at 12 lbs (though I should have called her piglet -- due to her
eating habits).

I have always referred to them as ``Mostly Siamese'' when asked about
their breed.  I've always felt that this appellation lacked dignity.
Well, some time ago I read a short article somewhere referring to the
Traditional Siamese.  According to this article, the Siamese wasn't
always this fragile and skinny kind of cat.  This has been wrought by
the breeders.  Originally, the siamese had a rounder head (like my
cats) and a solid body.

The article had no pictures... but it gives me a better label for my
two furballs.  So, tell me?  Has anyone ever seen one of these
traditional siamese?  Do I have one?  Will the breed police take me
away if I say that my cats are traditional siamese?

Awaiting your response,

-- Binayak
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: msmam@super.org (Margaret A McGarry)
Subject: Re: Mice, Cats and choking
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:45:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.131745.2624@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.205839.7284@super.org> msmam@super.org (Margaret A McGarry) writes:
>> I was told that swinging a cat back and forth
>> between your legs in this manner is also the
>> standard way to resuscitate a cat that has stopped 
>> breathing.
>> 
>> Marge
>
>I'm still not clear on how you're supposed to hold the cat. Do you hold
>it under its body with legs dangling?
>
>Steve

I saw a picture of this on a pamphlet at
the vets office.  (I guess I should get
a copy to keep at home if I see it again!)
The cat was held firmly at the hips, with
the cat's head pointing down toward the floor
(the picture showed its tummy facing the persons
body).  The cat was swung backwards between the
legs and then upward in an arc of about 45 degrees.
The object is to force air into the lungs gently.
I guess we should all ask our vets about this
procedure when our kitties have their next visits.

Marge

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: Cat loves being held upside down
Organization: Motorola
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:09:49 CDT

Todd, I just loved your drawings.  My cat is an 11 yr.old male Siamese who weig
hs 13 pounds and he loves to be held upside down in your arms like a baby. He w
ill fall asleep like that. Of course, when he was little, my girls dressed him
up in baby clothes and pushed him around the backyard in the stroller.
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: toddl@county.lmt.mn.org (Todd Lehman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat loves being held upside down
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:53:25 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota


Hi,

Oscar's favorite form of human contact seems to be when you hold him cradled
in your arms upside-down on his back.  When he was a kitten, he would fall
asleep like this; now that he's a full-grown 5-pound cat, he enjoys being
walked around the apartment like this, taking in all the interesting details
from a new perspective.

The amazing thing is that he lets me hold him high above my head with two
hands supporting him, one at the base of the neck, one at his hips, while he
comfortably lies there on his back, stretching his head downward to look
around.  He'll do this for minutes.  I call him "pineapple upside-down cat."

Can I injure him by holding him like this? (Other than the obvious possibility
that he may squiggle and fall?)  He *loves* it and has never made any attempt
to get down, nor has he ever given any kind of hint that he is uncomfortable
with the situation.

Carmen (his sister), on the other hand, has some kind of a built-in "up"
detector, and becomes uncomfortable at even a 45 degree tilt (compared to
Oscar's full 180).

We adopted these guys from the Animal Humane Society a few months ago, so
we don't really know what breed(s) they are, but we think Oscar has a lot of
Maine Coon in him, and Carmen looks a lot like a Bombay, if that makes any
difference.

--
Todd, Aileen, Woody, Carmen & Oscar
toddl@county.lmt.mn.org

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats, fleas, Precor, etc.
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:54:31 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <24878@oasys.dt.navy.mil> syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:
>From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
>Subject: Re: Cats, fleas, Precor, etc.
>Date: 10 Sep 92 19:27:13 GMT

>My youngest has worked for a Vet since age 14 (now 17) and now is working for 
>a groomer.  She told me the other night that they bathe the cats and dogs with 
>palmolive dish soap and that it works to kill the fleas but it is still gentle 
>and doesn't bother the animals.  I use it for my plants to spray for bugs, so 
>I guess it is an all purpose detergent!

You know you're soaking in it...right now!
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From: HF.CLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Cynthia Ng)
Subject: Only cat?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:03:07 GMT

Has anyone had a cat who just could not get along with other cats?
I would like to adopt another cat but am afraid that my cat would
never accept another.  She hisses at any cat she sees from the
window and on a couple of occasions when she got out she beat up the
cat next door.  When I adopted her at the shelter she even attacked
her brother and sister.  She will also attack humans who happen to
be near her when she sees another cat.  Any ideas or suggestions
would be appreciated.  Right now I'm resigned to be owned by an only
cat.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: Need info on Feline Leukemia
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:18:04 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

In <1992Sep13.172356.12211@frcs.Alt.ZA> linda@frcs.Alt.ZA writes:

> Thus spake K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa):
> 
> > 1.  Will my other two cats be at risk if they're up to date with their
> > vaccinations?
> 
> Just one addition to Kay's good advice: at least one bunch of people
> have done some research recently which shows that the vaccine is
> unlikely to make much difference, one way or another.
> 
> Linda
> 
>  
>        

Then why do we bother vaccinating them?  What proof do they have?  What
kind of qualifications do they have to be conducting "research"?
(If you know, that is).

	-Kristen

k_lepa@unhh.unh.edu

(sounds like a load of cats**t to me)
From: cbradburn@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Enough!
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:05:21 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)


I was woken for the umpteenth time at 5 am this morning by two cats
playing (in no particular oder):
	chasing each other around in circles
	opening the bathroom cupboards and knocking out the contents
	leaping on the bed an pulling the human's hair.

That's it! Enough!  I am not a human that tolerates lack of sleep.  Any
offers for:

1. one siamese, name of Keating (called after our beloved p.m. because they're
both opinionated and arrogant.) approx. 3 years old.

2. one domestic longhair, name of Seconds (too hard to explain). approx
2.5. years old.?


No reasonable offer refused.


I fel better now.


Carol .........
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 15:34:54 GMT

coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE) writes:
: Okay, here's my theory.  I call it the Special Theory.
: 
: Cat walks into a room and wants to sit on the floor.  My, what a lot of
: floor to chose from, thinks Cat.  Where shall I sit?  Hmmm, there's a
: spot over there that's different, it has newspaper on it.  Now, if that
: spot's different, it must be special and since I'm the most Special
: Creature on the planet, it must be meant for me.
: 
: Now, this theory can (easily) be proven be covering the entire floor of
: a (small) room with newspaper, leaving only one or two unpapered cat-
: sized spots.  Add one cat.  Observe where the cat decides to sit.
: 
: No, I haven't done this and no, I'm not planning to, but it would be
: interesting.  :-)  :-)
: 

If anyone is taking bets, I will bet this theory is correct.


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: VET says "Dry/Wet food combo bad for cats"...?
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Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date:  8 Sep 1992 14:44 EST  

In article <1992Sep5.033237.22977@auto-trol.com>, katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes...
>I have never heard of this, and my vet RECOMMENDS a mix for several
>reasons. First of all, getting only canned food is bad for their
>teeth because they will tend to get worse tartar build-up. Second,
>they may get nutrients from both that is missing from one or the
>other. For this reason, I also like to feed them different brands,
>as well. Third, if they are healthy and happy with their diet, why
>mess up a good thing?
> 

We lost a cat (who was eighteen) and were told by our vet that we *should* 
have been giving the cat a mix of dry and wet food.  He only liked the dry 
food.  The vet says that, especially as a cat grows older, his digestive 
system slows down.  The wet food is easier to digest, and will limit the 
chance of the blockage that the dry food caused, which killed him.
-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dowling@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Marie Dowling)
Subject: Veggie treats
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: green beans
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:15:00 GMT


My six-month old has developed a fondness for green beans and carrots. 
I give him maybe two beans every other day as a treat. Any harm in 
this?  Otherwise he is on a diet of Iams or Maxcat dry kitten food. I 
don't want to start him on canned cat food, but hoping I can add a few 
safe things for variety.  My parents cat is grossly overweight and 
sick because of it, so I'm a bit paranoid about Reilly's diet. He's 
indoor only, so I make sure we get at least 30 minutes of kitty 
aerobics a day to keep up his muscle tone. So any problems with 
allowing him vegetables?

Marie

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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Water Bowl Fetish (was Re: Ice cubes in water bowl)
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:32:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.025904.18622@tronsbox.xei.com> trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish) writes:
>
>One of my four cats loves ice cubes in his water bowl.  He will bat
>them and dunk them until they melt and then he meows for more.  One
>time he decided to pick it up in his mouth and carry it onto the rug
>in the livingroom.  When he got it there he batted it around like a
>ball but got very upset when it melted.  Now occasionally I find his
>ball in his water dish -- I think he is a little confused!! 

This reminds me of something which I have been really curious about.  My
Malcolm (orange tabby and white) has what I call a water bowl fetish.
He is constantly putting things in the dogs' water bowl.  The rings from
the milk containers, balls, his rolled up pieces of paper which get all
nice and soggy (eeewww!).  I don't know why he does this!  I have
watched him pick up an item, walk over to the water bowl and drop it in.
He doesn't play with it afterwards, either.  He simply looks at it for a
little while, then turns and walks away.

Any one else have a cat with a water bowl fetish?

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