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Subject: QL: Al & Tina (& Gooshie) 
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Organization: QLA - Quantum Leap Anonymous
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:19:40 +0000


In article <22JAN199308304021@acad1.alaska.edu> jsfjp@acad1.alaska.edu writes:

[Tina]

> My impression was that she was a bimbo-type on the surface, but that there was
> something more beneath.  I.e., that she's not totally a stereotype.  It just
> seems they haven't been able to spend much time on developing her.

It's a shame they didn't develop the "Genesis" Tina. :-(

IMHO She was pretty, intelligent, lovely voice (and I'm sure there must be
some guys who'd back me up on this!). Couldn't Sam leap back so we could
have her instead of the ghastly, giggly version?
 
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From: ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III)
Subject: Re: last episode of Galactica
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:30:19 PST

qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:


>	If Glen Larson was so disgusted with Galactica 1980,
>then why did he write (at least in part) 9 of its 10 episodes,
>including the pilot?!  Your rumor intrigues me, however, and I
>would love to hear some confirmation on this bizarre final
>episode.
>						-Quinn

Did he?  An old rec.arts.startrek thread talked about the wars that the
writers of some of the Star Trek Novels had with Gene Roddenberry over
what a "Star Trek Story" should contain.  In one case, a novel went 
through such an extensive re-write that the author did not want her
name on the book, citing that she no longer considered it her story.  
Unfortunately, some legal dealy prevented her name from being excised, 
and the book was published.

Of course, there is also the consideration that he (Glen) was getting
a paycheck...I guess.  
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From: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: QL: Dr. Ruth (Minour SPOILERS)
Reply-To: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:04:01 GMT

In article <1jjrtlINNflr@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell) writes:
spoiler:

>
>Personally, I wasn't too happy with the "I love Tina" thing.  It's really quite a
>sad situation now, since we know that Tina and Gooshie are having an affair (and
>we know that Tina is a flake).  I was looking for Al to admit that he _didn't_ 
>love Tina (I thought his line "I can't say that." was leading up to this), and 
>that he was just interested in her basically for sex (and her...uh...attributes). 
>Having admitted this, he would be free to look for someone who could really make 
>him happy again, like (but of course _different_from_) Beth.
>
I think that maybe you're missing the point. It's immaterial whether
Tina loves Al, or whether it can work out. Al had never *admitted* 
loving anyone else since Beth. Nothing with anybody could work
out when Al was in that state. Tina may respond to the change in
Al, and they may live happily ever. Or they might break up, and 
Al will be miserable FOR A WHILE. But he'll be more open with 
women, and able to meet, appreciate, and develop a loving relationship.
That's what Dr Ruth was there to fix.
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From: asheffie@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu
Subject: Fave QL episodes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:45:40 GMT

OK, what's everyone most favourite and least favourite Quatum Leap
episodes?  To get things started, "Temptation Eyes" gets my vote as the
all-time best Quantum Leap episode.  The story kept me on the edge of my
seat the whole time, and made the commercial breaks seem agonizinly long. 
As for a least favourite episode, I don't think I have one, although I
thought "The Play's The Thing" was rather dull and boring, and "The Wrong
Stuff" was just plain silly (but nonetheless original).


-Alex
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Subject: Re: Babylon 5 - Brief Description wanted...
From: mschmitt@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:18:10 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1993Jan23.234124.16393@cs.uoregon.edu>, ericg@cacofonix.cs.uoregon.edu (eric leander gorr) writes:
> Could someone please post a brief description of what Babylon 5 will be
> about?  thanx...
> 
> (I must have somehow missed earlier postings on this topic... :-( )

	To tell you the truth, it's rather hard to just sum it up in a few
words, when you know so much about the universe already.  I'm not sure where to
start, so for right now, I'm not going to try.  Someone else can feel free to
take a stab at it, of course.  Or maybe I will, if there's demand for it.
	However, the best way to find out about B5 is to pick up the b5log and
b5faq files via anonymous ftp from ftp.hyperion.com in the pub/Babylon-5
directory.  If you don't have ftp access, know how to use it, or know how to
use ftpmail, send me a note at the below address (note, not the one I'm posting
this note from), and I'll forward some stuff to you (anyone that asks) via 
email.
	Lee, think it's about time to post the FAQ again?

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From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:47:18 GMT
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Dr. Ruth
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

Al was married to Tina on another time line?  Did I miss an episode?  When
did this happen?

- Confused



Leslie
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From: dzembj@nuge115.its.rpi.edu (Jason Eric Dzembo)
Subject: Re: QL:  Leapee names??
Reply-To: dzembj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:21:25 GMT

In article <27JAN199310541185@acad1.alaska.edu>, jsfjp@acad1.alaska.edu (PERRICONE FRANK J) writes:
|> >I was wondering if there was ever a list showing the name of every leapee that
|> >Sam had leapt into.  If so, is it available at cisco?  Would something like
|> >this be pertinant data for the episode guide??
|> 
|> For a while I was adding this to my copy of the episode guide, but the
|> difficulty of keeping it in the new episode guide when I downloaded new copies
|> made it not worthwhile.  But it perhaps should be a field in the heading of the
|> ep-guide.


When the Guide was overhauled in December, I made an effort to include the
leapee's name and occupation in the entries, if I knew it offhand.  Since
the Guide became a rush job due to my aforementioned fear of losing my net
account, I never got a chance to make that a consistent thing.  However, 
several lists, including leapee names, locations, guest cast lists, writers
lists, directors list and other detailed lists have come into being in the
last couple of weeks.  I don't know if they're in the ql-archive on 
ziggy.cisco.com yet or not.  

Mark?

					- Jason (passing the buck...;-)
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From: aa587@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Melissa Joyce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL Question (Was Re: QL: Dr Ruth continuity error)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:45:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa587@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Melissa Joyce)
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In a previous article, aa811@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande) says:

>Same question--Sam and pierced ears.  Hmmmmm.  That's toughie.
>Wonder if suddenly he has them in, and ...

Why would it be any different than Sam being able to see out of
prescription glasses?  Or how he fits into Dr. Ruth's clothes?

Isn't it because it isn't *really* Sam, just you and me and all
the leapers get to see him... ?
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From: nelson@tiger.nsc.com (Taed Nelson)
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Organization: Applications Technology, National Semiconductor (Santa Clara CA USA)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:15:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.181355.23099@cs.tulane.edu>, ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski) writes:

> I thing that really impressed me about their vision of the future was the
> racial slur of "blanco".  Apparently the writers do have a brain and realize
> that Hispanics will eventually become the ethnic majority in this country,
> as is evidenced by current population trends, and acted accordingly.  I don't
> think we would have seen such realism in other sci-fi shows.

While this was good, why was it that 70% of the people we saw in the police
  station, West Point, and just about everywhere, were white?  It may have
  been nice in the script, but the casting crew did not follow through.
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From: jonesek@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Erik Reid Jones)
Subject: QL: This season not bad...
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Keywords: QL
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:29:02 GMT

I just want to make a comment about all of the people who have
been posting about how this season of Quantum Leap is not up
to snuff.  While I do agree that this season has had more bad
episodes than the previous four seasons (but for the first one
maybe) the quality has still been far above your average show.
Here's how I'd place this season's episodes, into three
categories:

EXCELLENT                  AVERAGE               POOR
______________________________________________________
                       Lee Harvey Oswald
                                              The Leaping of the Shrew
                                              Starlight, Starbright
Nowhere to Run
Trilogy I
Trilogy II
Trilogy III
                       Promised Land
                       Dr. Ruth
Killin' Time
                       Deliver Us From Evil
                                              A Tale of Two Sweeties
                       Liberation


WHY:
Lee Harvey Oswald - Great idea, great acting, great to watch, lame plot
The Leaping of the Shrew - Ugh, horrible all around
Starlight, Starbright - Far too `out of this world' for me
Nowhere to Run - The best solid drama of the season
Trilogy - Some of the best QL I have ever seen
Promised Land - Solid episode, but not one to rave over
Dr. Ruth - Had me in stitches, even if I didn't like the Annie subplot
Killin' Time - My favorite this season, edge of the seat time
Deliver Us From Evil - Had a chance to be great, wait til they come back
A Tale of Two Sweeties - A failed slapstick episode
Liberation - I expect much better from Deborah Pratt

If we total this up, that's five hours of excellent QL, six hours
of solid, average QL (LHO being two hours) and only three bad
episodes in the lot.  Now while some might disagree on the
ratings, and while I admit that three bad episodes in half a
season is way below par, I think this shows that we are still
seeing some really good QL here.

Erik R. Jones

From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:19:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

Maybe he only leaps into the U.S. so he won't be put into a situation he can't
handle?  That way he doesn't have to deal with different cultures and different
languages?  God(or time or whatever) is just making sure he can handle the
situation?


Leslie
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From: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM (Mathew Clayson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Space Rangers is _good_ )short(
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:01:00 GMT
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Well I must say "Star Drek:Deep shit 9" does have more action then "Star drek: the nodding generation". However they are both a big yawn compared to "Space Rangers".

I read local TV guide artical about the show, in it the creator of the show said he modeled it after bomber crews from WWII. I'll try and bring a copy of the artical in to post to the net.

Mat
From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: This season not bad...
Keywords: QL
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:37:14 GMT
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <C1DrJI.5sy@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> asheffie@cayley.uwaterloo.ca () writes:
>I disagree.  I thought "Taming of the Shrew" was a great QL episode.  Why?
>Because it was ORIGINAL.  It was a refreshing change of pace from the usual
>stuff.  Sam and the girl were the only characters in the story, and it took
>place far away from civilization.  It was different.  It was simple.  No major
>moral lessons or anything.  You could just sit back and enjoy.  It was great.

Unfortunately, outside of QL, the plot of "TotS" wasn't anything
resembling original. It was highly predictable from the start; and
though Brooke Shields did a better job than I'd expected, her
character didn't come off as anything more than your typical
"spoiled rich misunderstood young woman who never learned to
communicated her feelings"...and the ending raised more problems
than it solved. Surely "man and woman shipwrecked alone on small
tropical island" isn't a new set-up (nor was the rest of the story
that followed)?

As for within QL, "How the Tess was Won" and parts of "A-Hunting We
Will Go" are notable comparisions...

Not a flame...just my $.02.


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Subject: Re: Battlestar
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:24:56 -0600
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 But that was not the question, the real question is "How did the series
end?" I don't remember, or I just don't wont to put the effort into it.
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From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Subject: Re: QL: Continuity (was Dr Ruth continuity error)
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:24:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.215024.27118@udel.edu> lintz@oin.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz) writes:
>In article <05m3jy-@rpi.edu> dzembj@rpi.edu writes:
>>
>>Whether or not Al sees Sam seems to depend heavily on which episode you're
>>watching.  In "What Price, Gloria?", Al certainly sees Samantha.
>>
>>In later episodes (Nowhere To Run, and Pool Hall Blues come to mind), Al
>>evidently sees Sam as Sam and the leapee as the leapee.  
>>
>>I've personally solved this discontinuity, in my own mind, like this:  
>>The folks at PQL have realized that it can be detrimental to Al's mental
>>stability seeing Sam surrounded by another person's physical aura, so
>>after the events of What Price, Gloria?  (maybe even duiring the waiting
>>period between leaps), the program was altered so that Al could now see
>>Sam as Sam.  There's no "real" proof of that, except for the fact that
>>there is a sharp division between earlier episodes where Al sees Sam as
>>the host, and later episodes, where he sees Sam as Sam.
>
>An easier way to resolve the discontinuity is this: After the simuleap,
>when Al and Sam traded places, each had part of the others mental patterns.
>When they exchanged places again, a little bit of this exchange was left
>over, allowing Al to see Sam as Sam and the leapee as the leapee.

I'd take this explanation, except for the fact that the "sharp
division" that Jason mentions occurs much earlier than the
simoleap...for instance, "Pool Hall Blues," and "Miss Deep South"
(I still consider the latter to support the "changed-view" theory
in general).

Jason's theory about the neccessity of change after "What Price
Gloria" also receives support from the fact that Al doesn't seem
to have encountered the same problem in later episodes where the
host is female. It sounds plausible to me.


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Subject: Leapin in
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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf
Date: 26 Jan 1993 00:52:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan25.211552.325@das.harvard.edu> jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost ) writes:
>In article <1k13mtINNefu@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bugsy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher Sean Moran) writes:
>>I have read the book Red Dwarf and seen a GIF of the cast.  But,
>>I cant find the show anywhere.  Is it on in America ?  This
>>is very typical of good British comedy.  Theres not enough
>>of it in America.
>
>
>For a couple brief, shining months this summer, PBS out of Durham NH played
>it...then, no more.  When they're ever going to rerun the 3-4 years they
>showed, or even better, show an expanded run now that more episodes are
>available...who knows???
>
>Other parts of the country run it continually, but not in New England...
>It has its own alt group, even.

	Actually, that's not true.  The Maine stations used to be real good
about showing it.  Then they merged and started showing ones I'd never heard of
:-(.  But WENH, that New Hampshire station, isn't bad.  I expect that during
their next pledge drive they'll run a season 5 marathon, like they ran a season
4 marathon last year.

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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:09:32 GMT

In article <18112@umd5.umd.edu>, jp776@macbeth.umd.edu (sregdoR .S treboR) writes:
|> In article <93023.165340PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> PB5329A@auvm.american.edu (Patrick Barton) writes:
|> >Hey there everyone...I notice that Battlestar Galactica isn't discussed
|> >a whole bunch in this group, but I was wondering if anybody knew how
|> >the series ended...I know it was cancelled, but was the show ever re-
|> >solved (ie did they ever find Earth?)  While I was home over break
|> >I started watching BG again, when it started up nightly on the Sci-Fi
|> >channel, but now that I'm back to school, I can't watch it anymore, since
|> >we don't get the Sci-Fi Channel...any info would be appreciated...
|> >
|> >yours truly....Patrick Barton
|> 
|> 
|> 	I remember some later series where they were riding around earth
|> 	on multicolored, invisible bicycles that looked like the Big Wheels
|> 	(kids 3-wheeler) that were popular with the wee ones of the time.
|> 
|> 	Am I dreaming?
|> 
|> 
Nope, they were really awful bikes that Troy and Dillan (oh god those names!)
rode around town and every episode they'd get chased by someone who would
then be astonished when the bikes took off into the air a la E.T.
Don't think they were 3-wheelers though. They were far too fast.

It was bad. Very bad. We are talking abomination.
I remember that these two loonies came down to earth as a pointless advance
party with a bunch of kids who pretended to be boy scouts. The gravity on 
earth was supposedly different from that of the rag-tag punitive fleet so
they could jump real high and be really strong. 
Why did Boxey's name change to Troy? Sad or what.

And Battlestar Galactica was quiet enjoyable before they killed it off with 
that last series.

The saving grace of the whole thing was the last episode, entitled, 
"The Death of Starbuck" if only because they brought back Dirk Benedict
(he got his name from eggs benedict actually - boring piece of trivia
number 10256/b) and a Cylon together on a planet all alone together.
It was the only vaguely watchable episode of the entire last series.

It's ages since I saw that series - thank god.

Happy Halibut VIII

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From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:08:00 GMT
Subject: Re: QL: Coming out on videotape!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

That's great!  I hope that they put more than just one episode per tape though!

Thanks for the info.

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From: millinsj@cs.aston.ac.uk (SJ MILLINGTON,,,,)
Subject: Re: Time Trax Opinion
Reply-To: millinsj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:47:54 GMT

In article 1k1ue2INNp17@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
>
>I thought the pilot episode wasn't too bad, if you don't start worrying
>about temporal logic or scientific accuracy.  The acting by the main
>characters (Dale Midkiff and Mia Sara) was definitely stiff.  However,
>I think the show's future storylines have definite potential if the writers
>handle it properly.
>
>I like to think of Trax as Quantum Leap meets Friday the 13th: The Series
>with a touch of The Annihilator (a failed TV pilot).
>
>Chuck Gibbs
>gibbsc@ac.grin.edu


This series sounds interesting!!  I rather like all three mentioned in comparison
maybe we will get to see Time Trax in England in about 10 years time (if lucky).
Does anyone know if/when it will get to this side of the pond??
Sam.

From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:56:31 GMT
Subject: Re: QL: This season not bad...
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

I think it is pretty obvious by the responses that everyone has differnt taste.
Lets just hope that the people who make decisions don't think they were all
bad and cancel the show!!!

I think a lot of us would agree that even a bad Quantum Leap is better than
a "good" episode from a lot of other series.  Especially the stuff that is
on these days!


Leslie
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