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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:07:00 CDT
From:         Becky Albitz 5-5931 <CADALBTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fame, though not Fortune, for CINEMA-L

Is the faculty member you shared the series of messages with interested
at all in our discussions of film?  That is after all why most of us
signed on to this list.  I agree with an earlier post (I'm sorry, I
didn't save it) that the kind of discussions this gentleman finds so
fascinating is not what we typically discuss on this list, and not
a discussion I would care to be associated with.  As we always say,
no offense intended.
Becky Albitz
University of Iowa Libraries
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Comments:     Originally-From: Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
From:         Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      Religious nutters...

Liam,

>>If someone will refer me to a movie that might just offend the religious,
>>I'll rent it at Blockbuster and check out whether or not it's been cut.

>Well, Joan, it may be a bit moot in light of subsequent postings, but
>two that come to mind are Scorsese's _Last Temptation of Christ_ and
>_Monty Python's Life of Brian_.  Both are really good films.
   Not at all a moot point; no one else has volunteered a movie that will
offend the religious.  I will stop by Blockbuster on the way home tonight.
I had forgotten about all the furor over the Last Temptation of Christ!

>PS. Joan, you never told me what you thought of the last episode...???
   But I did, Liam!  In great agonizing pitiful detail!  Stunned?
Depressed?  Bereft?  The mail did not go through, I take it.

                            Joan
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From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Surprising actor in CITY FOR CONQUEST
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George askes what Eliza Kazan is up to lately : writing his autobiography -
He is by the way a graduate of Williams College.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:19:39 EDT
From:         Gayle Gleason <ST402486@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      The Water Dance

   Did anybody else out there see The Water Dance?  It just
 made it to Providence this year, but was released in 1991.  I was
 amazed by Wesley Snipes performance...mostly 'cause I had seen White
 Men Can't Jump the week before and WS plays two very different characters
 in these two movies.

--Gayle Gleason
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:10:32 PDT
From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      Previews....

REPLY TO 07/22/92 13:48 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Previews....

Bill:  I got my copy of Previews over the list and enjoyed it very
much.  Jennifer Porro

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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:03:00 EST
From:         "Like the Mary Ellen Carter, rise again!" <ACCDAK@HOFSTRA.BITNET>
Subject:      Labelling in politics

It has been suggested that labels in polling booths be changed to "EVIL"
and "LESSER OF THE TWO" to make it easier for the voters to make a choice.

David     accdak@vaxc.hofstra.edu  // accdak@hofstra
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:44:00 EDT
From:         ERICSOPM@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      *new* material on "censorship"

Moments ago, my beloved local NPR outlet carried as story as follows:

Comedian Steve Allen and Critic Michael Medved have announced their
support of a recommendation by the Dove [sp?] Foundation that video
rental outlets carry edited versions of "racy" films.

----That's the gist of it. I suspect this will generate some discussion...

Phil
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:17:00 CDT
From:         "Matthew Wills 335-5919" <MWILLSTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: bickering

Perhaps talk about films?  Matthew Wills

> I really don't mind all of the bickering that's going on, it's
> actually kind of funny, but I wonder what we would do if all of us on
> this list were to actually meet.  Interesting thought...
>
> Becky Albitz
> University of Iowa Libraries
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From:         Tanya Augsburg <ilay9228@EMORYU1.CC.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tipper and Co.
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On Tue, 21 Jul 1992, Ray Hoy wrote:

> >
> >Back to a depressing thought:  For the first time, when choosing a candidate,
> >i get to choose not the best person for the job, but the person who will do
> >the least harm.
> >
> >                 Joan
>
> You must be young.  I feel like I've been making that same choice for the
> last 20 years.
>

>
> Ray Hoy  RAY@MCO.BITNET
> Medical College of Ohio
> Toledo Ohio



Joan and Ray,
Jean Paul Satre said
something similiar in the 1940's

	Tanya in Atlanta
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Subject:      Re: Casablanca (was HarrisonFord)

> I saw a preview for Casablanca last weekend and guess what...
>
>         It's rated PG!!!!
> What makes it rated PG?  The violence?
>
>--Gayle Gleason

        Maybe the grown-up romance and the absence of children?


                        Sue
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:05:14 CDT
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Comments:     Originally-From: John <JBC@ERS.BITNET>
From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      The Star Wars mentality
              20 Jul 1992 09:43:00 -0700 from <PORTIGAL_STEVE@TA NDEM.COM>

It's not the ratings system OR the _Star Wars_ mentality that has Hollyrude
on the ropes artistically, but the people who pull the purse strings there
today. Not everything coming out of Hollyrude is blockbuster--look at all the
low-budget horror and violent action flicks that are made to pick up a few
dollars in the US and then sent overseas where the real profits on these films
(esp. the action ones) are to be made. The bozos driving the Hollyrude bus
are the problem...no stories anymore, just f/x and the oozing of various
precious bodily fluids...A.J. Wright/meds002@uabdpo

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On Mon, 20 Jul 1992 09:43:00 -0700 <PORTIGAL_STEVE@TANDEM.COM> said:
>
>And what happened to mainstream X movies like Midnight Cowboy and Last Tango
>in Paris? Hollywood just doesn't make them anymore.
>
If Midnight Cowboy was released today, it would have an R rating.  The films
that initially got an X are pretty tame by today's standards.  Last Tango...
is a little different, but it wasn't made in Hollywood.

But more importantly...if Midnight Cowboy was PROPOSED today, it wouldn't
stand a chance.  Not in this post-Star-Wars Hollywood that we all caught a
glimpse of thanks to Altman.  Hollywood doesn't make movies anymore, it makes
blockbusters, and if it weren't for a handful of artists with enough clout to
get their work financed (Jonathan Demme, Robert Altman, David Lynch, John
Sayles, Jim Jarmusch) and the many lesser-known or up-and-coming independents
(like the woman who directed Children of the Dust) there wouldn't be anything
American worth watching.  The rating system didn't ruin Hollywood...it was
Star Wars.
John
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:58:48 -0400
From:         J-HILL@UMINN1.BITNET
Subject:      KUFFS

 Tried to watch KUFFS last night--ended up turning it off.  Has anybody seen thi
 s movie?  Couldn't quite figure it out.  Why did he bother talking to the camer
 a, that really bothered me--it just did not make any sense.  Any comments?
 Jeff
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:32:00 EDT
From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      3 godfathers
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Many years ago there was a tradition (at least in the New York area) of
broadcasting the John Ford version of THREE GODFATHERS at about 2AM on
Christmas eve (the other traditional film was KING KONG on Thanksgiving
and I still can't figure out why) - TNT just broadcast the 1936 version
(starring Chester Morris and Lewis Stone) - the differences between
the two are startling - I've read that there were to other versions
done before 1936 (I disregard the made-for-TV version) - Does anybody
know anything about these earlier versions?
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:22:07 CDT
From:         Bill Oppel <S70762OW@ETSUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Film-l & Screen-l

Screen-l is still SCREEN-L@UA1VM.BITNET, but Film-l is now FILM-L@ITESMVF1


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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:00:26 EDT
From:         "George V. Chastain" <U0E53@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sturgeon's Law

>> Remember Theodore Sturgeon's Rule: 98% of everything is crap.

>Actually, Sturgeon is an optomist--I think he actually said that
>90 percent of everything is crap.

Split the difference -- I'm ALMOST positive that Theodore
Sturgeon assessed the universal crap content at 95% ... I've seen
Sturgeon's Law quoted as such in many places, and have a pinback
button to this effect right here in my desk drawer.

Does anybody know the exact source for this brilliant thought?
It's one of the best rules to live by I've ever heard -- and the
implied corollary about a small percentage of ANY human endeavor
NOT being crap is especially useful.  I try to keep it in mind
when my general enthusiasm for certain forms of media (old horror
films, blues music, etc.), or when my general disdain for certain
others (splatter films, rap music, etc.), colors my perception of
the individual works in these forms.

The only difficult part of finding worthwhile efforts in any form
of art is wading through a cess pool of banality; I think this
applies to "high" art as well as "low" art.

George Chastain -- WVNET, Morgantown, West Virginia
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:25:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      video store rentals

>From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

>I'm eager to hear more stories of your experiences in video rental. A
>professional says it is not impossible to detect a pirate print. Has
>anybody patronized a pirate store or pirate-supplied store? Have you ever
>watched a legit print that was altered in some way (local advertising
>added, for example).

I once rented a movie from one of the local chains that turned out to
be the demo that the distributor sends to stores hoping to produce
orders.  It opened with a commercial for the film, and all during
the film there was a subtitle on screen saying something like
"Demo version only.  Not for sale or rent."  I think it was an
honest mistake as that was the only time that happened.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:17:47 EDT
From:         Gayle Gleason <ST402486@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: labels=censorship?

>Re: labels=censorship?
>
>Date:         Sun, 19 Jul 1992 23:03:26 EDT
>From:         Michael Hurt <ST101700@BROWNVM.BITNET>
>
>         Do you realize that Tipper Gore is going to have real
>inflluence on her very powerful husband if he become Vice President of
>the United States? At the very LEAST, he will try to satisfy her (and
>thereby her constituency, being conservative groups like the PMRC or the
>Moral Majority, both grewat espousers of the virtues of "family
>values").

  And I suppose that you prefer Marilyn Quayle's influence? Let's face it,
 Dan is scarey enough!

 If you are REALLY concerned about free speech (not to mention the entire
 Bill of Rights, and the Constitution) then perhaps you should use your vote
 this November to put a Democrat in the White House in order to prevent
 more ultra-conservatives from being appointed to the Supreme Court.
 That, is REAL influence.  Tipper can try to pass as much legislation as
 she wants, but if her laws aren't constitutional, then it just doesn't
 matter what she says.

 --Gayle Gleason
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:44:37 CDT
From:         Michelle Lehman <MICHELLE@ORTTA.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Movie Databases
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> On Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:12:01 PDT <DU013@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU> said:
> >From:  Mary Shaffer
> >
> >
> >How do you access the database at boulder.colorado.edu? What's available?
> >There have been at least two references in recent posts and I was curious
> >and thought others on the list might want to know, too.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mary
> =========================================================================
> Could someone also send me this information as well?
>
> From:         "Kenneth R. Jackson"

Maybe it would be easier to the list because I would also like this
information.  Thanks.



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Michelle Lehman                                 michelle@ortta.umn.edu
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:16:00 PDT
From:         Michael Bruce McDonald <MCDONALD@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Vincent and Theo

Jennifer, everyone knows about the earectomy, but questions proliferate
about why, why, why did he really do it?

MM
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:08:00 EDT
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Tipper and Co.

>>I think that "dysfunctional family" is redundant...
>
>Not to mention tautological and pleonastic. (Take *that,* W.F. Buckley...)
>
>"Nuclear family" always sounds inadvertantly belligerent to me. Come
>to think of it, maybe that's the point. It does suggest interesting
>alternatives, though: how about "fissionable family?"

        >Ahem...would "fisherable" be more appropriate for you...?


        Strictly a non-combatant in The War of the Roses.

Falling into the facile fissure of fashion, I remain
kjf-
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:43:00 EST
From:         Gary Graffagnino <ACCGSG@HOFSTRA.BITNET>
Subject:      The Rapture

I was considering renting the movie _The Rapture_ with Mimi Rodgers (sp?).  Any
comments? criticisms?
                           ______
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:29:00 EST
From:         Penny Ward <UNCPEW@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Plugs from "little" reviewers

> Unfortunately, I no longer have the article, but there was a story in the
> paper recently about the spate of "non-names" giving great reviews in the
> ads.
>
> It seems they just find anyone who will say great things, and then put htem
> in the ad.  The people who are not very well known in the entertainment
> industry are willing to make these statements because it certainly raises
> their own professional profile.
> Steve
>
_Spy_ magazine runs a monthly feature poking fun at this trend.  Each
month, "Walter Monheit (tm), the Movie Publicists' Friend" shares
his thoughts on five or six new releases.  Each review consists of
one glowing, catchy, quotable sentence, and a number of "monacles"
(Walter wears a monacle) instead of stars.  No movies gets less than
three monacles.  Instant blurbs for the taking!

--Penny
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:16:17 PDT
From:         Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Shining Through

Shining Through was ok, just ok, a bit predictable.  Melanie Griffith's baby
voice was often hard to hear so we'd crank up the sound, music would play and
the sound would leap up too.  Her alleged "German butcher's wife" accent was
more your basic Berlitz Brooklyn German accent.  However, it's an evening's
entertainment, worth the price of the rental.
                         Joan Crenshaw
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:29:00 PDT
From:         Michael Bruce McDonald <MCDONALD@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MultiSpoiler

Actually, Beckett died quite outside the church.

"And Mm."  *Finnegans Wake*, 115.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:59:43 PDT
From:         Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tipper and Co.

NOW I remember why I found Tipper Gore to be so objectionable!  I imagine
a trip to the library is completely in line here, refresh the memory, stir
up the blood, make me worry about a Vice President with Tipper by his side.

But you know what would really put this into an entirely new vein?  Film
of the first time Tipper heard "Darling Nikki"!!  Then we could tie it all
back to Cinema-l and enjoy some comedy footage.

Back to a depressing thought:  For the first time, when choosing a candidate,
i get to choose not the best person for the job, but the person who will do
the least harm.

                 Joan
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From: lhb6v@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Laura Hayes Burchard)
Subject: Re:      Re: "Dead Again" and "JFK"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:04:33 GMT

In article <CINEMA-L%92072011254032@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET> writes:
>Orlanda,
>   Kenneth Brannagh starred in and directed "Henry V."  He was also in
>"A Month In The Country" with Colin Firth and Natasha Richardson.  I
>imagine there MUST be more films.

Actually, only one other.  "High Season", a comedy starring Jacqueline
Bisset.  That was one of the things that made 'Henry V' so impressive;
not only had he never directed a film before, he had only been in
two small ones himself.  He made his reputation on the stage and on 
TV for the most part.

Laura
--

Address alias changed -- good addresses are now lhb4v@virginia.edu and
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:26:00 EST
From:         CLERC@GENESEO.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Shining Through

>Shining Through was ok, just ok, a bit predictable.  Melanie Griffith's baby
>voice was often hard to hear so we'd crank up the sound, music would play and
>the sound would leap up too.  Her alleged "German butcher's wife" accent was
>more your basic Berlitz Brooklyn German accent.  However, it's an evening's
>entertainment, worth the price of the rental.
>                         Joan Crenshaw

        I had the same problem with the sound. It was ironic, I thought,
because the movie begins as a BBC documentary and British TV shows (or
maybe just the ones on Masterpiece Theatre) seem to have the same trouble.
Don't take your finger off the volume control...

        It seems a waste to put Michael Douglas in love scenes when
Liam Neeson is in the same movie...Too bad Douglas wasn't the Nazi...


                        Sue
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From:         FARQUHAR@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The Rapture

One Haunting film! Watch this one and it will bother you for
days afterwards!
Highly recomened (unless you are a born again catholic)

Sean "Doc Syracuse" Farquharson

Ps. Anyone know how this film was received by the church? It's sort of
Agrees with Born again ideas and disagree with them at the same time!?!

Z
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:23:00 EDT
From:         "Mike.Simmons" <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A couple of things

Gayle....
I do not remember exactly who or what it was that prompted Tipper Gore to
start her crusade for labeling of "offensive lyrics" in music, but I do
remember that Dee Snyder of Twisted Sister, John Denver, and Frank Zappa
(quite a combo, eh?) all were spokespersons against this labelling. CSPAN
carried the complete hearings at the time.  At the time I do not think that
Guns and Roses were popular or even existed (the good ole days!).  Being the
fan of Frank Zappa that I am, I saved several articles on this.  I will read
them tonight and get back to the list as to what exactly got Tipper's hackles
up. I do recall that Al Gore said he was a fan of Mr. Zappa's and they had
lunch together!  Amazing.......
Mike.
MSU.
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From:         Becky Albitz 5-5931 <CADALBTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      bickering

I really don't mind all of the bickering that's going on, it's
actually kind of funny, but I wonder what we would do if all of us on
this list were to actually meet.  Interesting thought...

Becky Albitz
University of Iowa Libraries
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