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From: martijn@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Martijn Nykerk)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: On printer drivers
Keywords: drivers
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering


Hi, 

Does anybody know the format of the Acad printer drivers?
Or a program to make a thing like that.

Managed to get hold of an old laser printer and would like to 
use it.

My next step 'll probably calling ACAD but hope not
to because the last time I tried they weren't all to quick 
about it. So I'm hoping somebody out there hs got one for me.

Martijn
From: lejon@thn.htu.se (Mats Lejon)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: S3 driver for Acad r 12 ???
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:02:11 GMT
Organization: University College of Trollhettan/Uddevalla
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Does anyone know if a supervga driver with support for S3 graphics has 
been released yet? The supervga driver we got had the S3 support disabled
due to som problem. Does anyone know anything about this?

				thanks in advance
				
				Mats Lejon
				University College of Trollhaettan, Sweden
From: rxs14@PO.CWRU.EDU (Robert Stalder)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AutoCAD on a Laptop
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:18:33 GMT
Reply-To: Robert Stalder <rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

>
>Well, I've been thinking...
>
>Now that Laptop/Notebook color screens are becoming cheap and
>acceptably crisp (just barely) has anyone been using AutoCAD
>on a DOS-based Laptop Computer?  I'm interested to see if this
>works well, what model and configuration laptop, which pointing
>device (!) and what tasks are best suited for portable computing.
>
>Also, has anyone sucesccfully used a battery-powered printer
>for AutoCAD ouptut, and if so which one?
>
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
>-Bob
>

My only concern would be the size of the laptop screen.  Looking at that
little 8" x 5-6" screen would be a living hell in AutoCAD.  Talk about
zoomville...  I guess it all depends on what you need to do with it...

--
Rob Stalder                           "To know me ... is to beer me"
rxs14@po.CWRU.Edu
stalder@SCL.CWRU.Edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: tima@sequent.com (Timothy Alan Anderson)
Subject: Re: AutoCAD R12 Windows extensions.
Keywords: AutoCAD, windows
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:36:41 GMT

In article <19NOV199208033395@reg.triumf.ca> wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca (WILMSHURST, PETER) writes:
>
>	After seeing AutoSketch running under windows, I am eagerly waiting
>	to purchase the Acad R12 Extensions.
>
>	Thanks for your time. =:)
>
>	Pete
>

Then you will be disappointed. My opinion on AutoCad for Windows is that they
should chop off the entire front end and glue all of the functionality onto
AutoSketch for Windows. AutoSketch/win is a real windows application, Autocad
for Windows is "Yet Another Port Of An Old DOS Application".* 

My hat is off to the AutoSketch folks. That is one nice piece of software!

tima@sequent.com

* Don't get me wrong, they did a mighty fine job. As a matter of fact our
current product is "Yet Another Port Of An Old DOS Application". I am 
working to remidy that situation, however.


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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:13:00 EST
From:         IETYANG@EKU.BITNET
Subject:      ASE to dBASE IV

Hi;

I just joined this list, don't know whether this topic has been discussed.
I tried to make the ASE link between ACAD R12 and dBASE IV.  What I understand
is there are three items, DBMS, DB, and TABLE.  While DBMS means a SOFTWARE
SYSTEM, such as dBASE, DB is for a SUBDIRECTORY (under DOS) where a database
file resides, and TABLE is a database file (dBASE term.).  So far, I'm able
to set the DBMS (select DBASE4) using asesetdbms command.  However, I have
difficulty in the second step, setting DB using asesetdb command.  I used
DOS set command to setup an envrionment which pointed to the subdirectory,
then I use that variable in response to asesetdb.  As I understand, there is
no USERNAME nor PASSWORD required if I use dBASE IV, so I press Enter twice
in response to them, then the message "Error opening database" shows up.

Do I miss something ?  I couldn't find an explaination of this message in
AutoCAD manual(s).  And I don't understand why it sounds that AutoCAD tries
to open a database while the asesetdb is to set a SUBDIRECTORY.

I'll appreciate any help/suggestions.

Biwu Yang
ietyang@eku.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: putnam@grits.msc.cornell.edu (Albert M. Putnam)
Subject: FAQ, archives, free bbs?
Keywords: FAQ, archives
Reply-To: putnam@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Materials Science Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:36:29 GMT

Is the FAQ for this group archived at some internet site?
Are AutoCAD script, LISP or dxf files archived at any internet site?
Is this whole group archived at any internet site?
I know wuarchive.wustl.edu archives some AutoCAD (CAD) items
in /mirrors?/msdos/acad;
I was curious as to where more recent AutoCAD items might be found.
Does one have to look on CompuServe or somesuch?
Are useful items from CompuServe (or elsewhere)
being mirrored somewhere on the internet?
Is there a source for AutoCAD items specific to UNIX machines?

If one has example ADS, LISP or ADI code to contribute to the 
user community at large where on the internet should they be sent?
It might be appropriate to post some smaller stuff here,
but I think longer files might better go to a central
archive somewhere.

Albert Putnam
putnam@msc.cornell.edu
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Via: uk.ac.de-montfort; Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:35:17 +0000
Organisation: De Montfort University
Department: IT Services - Cad Support Team
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:35:00 GMT
Reply-To:     iah@de-montfort.ac.uk
From:         Andy Humberston <iah@DE-MONTFORT.AC.UK>
Subject:      Is this list still active....

Hi,

Is this list still active?

As I not seen any messages for a couple of months.

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 12:02:52 EST
From: <IO20585@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Autolisp
Distribution: world

From what I understand, you can buy the "show" version of AutoCAD for
some where around $100-$150. This is a fully functional version of AutoCAD,
less the ability to save drawings, create wblocks, DXF or IGES out drawings,
or plot to a file.
Talk to a dealer near you for details...
From: drake@Autodesk.COM (Dan Drake)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AutoCAD R12 Windows extensions.
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:44:06 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca (WILMSHURST, PETER) writes:
> 
>       Hello,
>               I'm looking for information on the Acad R12 Windows Extensions.
>       I was told by my local rep. they have not been written yet.

Well, that's putting it strongly.  Let's say that they have not been
released yet.  Not quite the same thing.  Maybe somebody needs to speak
to your local rep about how software is developed.

>       Are they
>       going to be written?  If so, when?

I don't think the release date has been announced.  One can draw some
general conclusions from the company's public positions: that it's
releasing the various AutoCAD configurations more quickly than it has in
the past, and that Windows is a platform of major importance.

>      In the meantime, will the R11
>       windows extensions work?

I'm not quite sure what this means.  If the R11 Windows extension didn't
work, the company wouldn't be shipping it.  I hope.  If you mean, will
it work in conjunction with R12, the answer is yes: on a special
one-time-only deal, the databases of R11 and R12 are completely (well,
supposed to be completely) compatible in both directions; so you can
edit a drawing with alternate versions on alternate days, or whatever.

--
Dan Drake                 In software, the *complete* design *is* the software!
drake@Autodesk.com        --Hugh Lamaster
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Re: AutoCAD .DWG conversions
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:46:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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John Austin (jea1@cornell.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov19.121936.4095@wkuvx1.bitnet> , beelewm@wkuvx1.bitnet
: writes:
: >I realize that this may have been asked earlier, but I do not have an
: >FAQ to refer to.  QUESTION:  How do you convert a .DWG file to a .DXF
: >file?  I have AMIpro for windows that will import .DXF files do use in
: >documents, only thing is, my drawings are saved in the .DWG format.
: >Any help would be great.
: 
: 
: I assume you still have access to AutoCAD.  Check out the DXFOUT command.

Or if you don't have AutoCAD, Autosight Access ($299) claims to do the job.
Autosight is in Melbourne, FL, (407)242-5864.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: eoi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Chenmin Zhang)
Subject: How to run autocad (version 10) under win3.1 and Qemm 6.02?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Autocad, Qemm, qemm386, Window 3.1
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:25:31 GMT


     How to setup window 3.1 to run Autocad (version 10c) under Qemm386 (6.02)?
I know that Qemm386 is surposed to provide VCIP service to windows which in
turn will provide expanded or extended memory that autocad needs.

     Thanks in advance!


Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: dyck@cs.sfu.ca (Michael Dyck)
Subject: Re: shared memory error
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:08:28 GMT

In article <01GR7S38KYSG9AMTCP@UDLAPVMS.PUE.UDLAP.MX> IS80441@UDLAPVMS.BITNET writes:
>        I am using autocad v. 11 in a Sparc Station. When I try to load a large
>      ADS aplication there appears this message:
>
>        Unable to obtein shared memory
>        Xload Fail
>
>        In some terminals there is no problem (they can load) but others show
>   this message.
>
>        The manual don't talk about this.
>
>        If you have an idea of what is happend please help me.
>
>
>        Thanks
>
>        Humberto Servin
>        is80441@udlapvms


From acad/readme.doc for the Sun-4/SPARCstation:

  AutoLISP and Inter-Process Communication
  ----------------------------------------

  If AutoLisp (the "acadl" process), which controls ADS applications,
  terminates prematurely, due to an ADS application that crashes, or
  because of a "kill" command, you may have Inter-Process Communication
  (IPC) shared-memory and semaphores that are not removed from the
  system.  If this happens repeatedly, you will be unable to run ADS
  applications because there are no free semaphores available.  To
  correct this situation you must use the "ipcs" (IPC status) command to
  inquire on IPC objects, and the "ipcrm" (IPC remove) command to free
  them.  See the man pages on these commands for details on their
  usage.  Note: Do not use "ipcrm" while an AutoCAD is running or you
  may remove the currently in-use IPC objects.

Maybe that's your problem.

-Michael Dyck, dyck@cs.sfu.ca
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: drh@aps.anl.gov (Daniel R. Haid)
Subject: Re: Autodesk
Reply-To: drh@aps.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Lab -- APS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:28:59 GMT

Next time you talk to Laura get her E-Mail Adress either on the ADESK server or thru
MCI Mail...

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:16:57 EST
From:         SBLY@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: MAC autocad

First, a question: What system version are you using?
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:39:30 -0400
From:         The crazy computer teacher <MTPETERS@UTKVX.BITNET>
Subject:      MAC autocad

        I was wondering if anyone out there in netland knew how to specify
paths on a mac.  We are running autocad release11 on Mac IIcx's.  They
constantly have trouble finding various files such as fonts and the Acad.mnu
file.   Whenever a file is loaded up, these files have to be found before
they can be used.  Any hints would be appreciated.  Respond either by E-mail
or to the listserv.  Thanks in advance

                                        Todd Peterson
MTPETERS@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: west@urvax.urich.edu
Subject: Re: Anybody out there using Generic Cadd 6.0?
Reply-To: west@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:11:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.183539.7859@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>, emmel@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Grant Emmel) writes:
>Just a simple question.  I haven't seen alot of traffic regarding
>Generic Cadd 6.0 (from Autodesk) and I was just wondering if anybody
>out there is using it (for future reference.)
>
>Thanks ahead of time,
>
>-- 
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Grant Emmel,  Physical Sciences Laboratory University of Wisconsin
>Internet:emmel@psl.wisc.edu.                              608-873-6651

I use Generic Cadd 6.0 with great frequency! Mostly for theatrical scenic and
lighting design and on occasion for various freelance design jobs and home im-
provements.
Xref: sparky alt.cad:420 alt.cad.autocad:1538 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:14780
From: smp@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Newsgroups: alt.cad,alt.cad.autocad,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Need infor about some of the CAD packages.
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:29:14 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: WVU Statistics and Computer Science


	I would like to get info or pointers to comparative evaluation of
a few of the CAD packages: CorelDraw, Autocad and Micrografix (sp) designer.

	All comments and suggestions are appreciated.

	Thanks in advance.

	Shailesh

Newsgroups: alt.cad,alt.cad.autocad
From: vaughn@lonestar.utsa.edu (Vaughn K. Eifler)
Subject: Info on 3-D digitizer?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:12:01 GMT

    hi, does anybody have any info on a 3-d digitizer that utilizes a laser
    apparatus?  i have heard about them but i cant seem to track down any
    information on them...
                                -V

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Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american
From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:37:33 GMT

>>>Although I don't think anyone has as a goal to equate the percentage of black
>>>engineers to thier percentage of the population. Rather, it is just to increase
>>>the percentage
>
>TP>Why? What are the excuses for such overt racism?

>I fail to see how expressing a desire to increase the number of black engineers
>is overt racism.  Please explain yourself.

Increasing the number of black engineers by definition requires racial
discrimination. Engaging in racial discrimination is by definition racism.

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american
From: agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Guess Who's Back)
Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.045615.19575@samba.oit.unc.edu>, 
 Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
>Many colleges provide special preferred academic treatment for Blaks.
>These include lower admission standards (in effect, adding points to SAT
>scores, etc.), tutoring, mentoring, organization memberships, which are
>denied Caucasian students. Perhaps you didn't realize such advantages
>made available to you were race restricted.
Please make available the names of the colleges and the programs which provide
tutoring, mentoring, etc. to students of color but deny them to Caucausian 
students.  I for one, would like to know the exact facts.

Acee Agoyo
agoyo1@athena.mit.edu
From: 00brwoodson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: military and gays
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:53:59 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov18.190319.5503@news.unomaha.edu>, puh@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jennifer M. Hall) writes:
> 
> 
> Does anyone think Clinton will be successful in lifting the ban on
> gays from military service?  I'd like to know other people's opinions on
> this such as, how will he achieve it, and where will he get his support
> other than the homosexual community.  I am very much in agreement with
> Clinton, but I am concerned about how he will achieve this based on 
> the opposition from military officials.
> 
> Jennifer Hall
I think he will have a lot of opposition from, not only military officials, but 
veterans of the military, Christian fundamentalists, conservative politicians,
and others who feel that the military doesn't need homosexuals.  I personally
am on the fence on the issue.  This could hurt him in the long run.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:57:38 EST
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Book

In article <1ep673INN9ca@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ab269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John
Laws) says:
>
>Anybody who wants to be informed on the subject of race relations
> and racism should pick up a copy of the new book, Paved With
> Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
> America by Jared Taylor. It is published by Carroll and Graf, 260
>Fifth Avenue, New York, N.Y. 10001.
>This book is long overdue. It clearly shows that white racism is
> simply an excuse for black failures and lack of taking responsibility
>for your own actions.

      Yes, it was black failures that led to Jim Crow laws, lynchings, slavery,
the glass ceiling, paying taxes and not having good schools (pre-Brown).  the
U.S. Government and its non-colored people never had institutionalized racism,
meaning racism that was codified in law.  No, the past 400 years were all a
dream, a la Dallas.
  there is no question that 100% of the problems of Black America cannot be
placed directly on the government or its people, but to say that Blacks
problems are solely because of our own failures is simply not based in
historical or current facts.  As a somewhat successful Black person, I can
reel off plenty of instances where I have been blatently discriminated against
simply because of my color (let's see some of the white people around here
be pulled over simply because they happen to be driving a nice car in a white
neighborhood, yes this failure was all my fault, I should stay out of white
neighborhoods at noon).



> for your own actions. The book has over 1300 citations to back up
> its assertions. Do not allow this fraud to continue. Pick up a copy

    I bet if I had the time and the resources I can give well over a million
assertions by Blacks with regard to white racism leading to "failures" on the
part of Blacks. I also think that I am being conservative in the million
number.
>of this book and demand that the myth of white racism being the cause
>of all the problems of black-Americans be stopped. Demand that

    "Myth"!?!  That is a good one.



> the government end the racist policies such as affirmative action
> and quotas.


    Sure, as soon as the u.s. government and the private sector stop their
racist hiring and admission practices!




>Does racism exist? Yes, it exists in both the black and white
> communities. However, it is NOT the overriding cause of black
> failure. It is NOT as prevalent as the media and others would
>have you believe. Where it exists, it must be condemned and stopped.
>But it does not lurk behind every tree and this misconception
>must be stopped also.
>READ THIS BOOK! LEARN THE FACTS. DEMAND ACTION.
>--
>"Life what a beautiful choice" (Thanks to the Arthur Demoss Foundation)

    I will defintely read this book.  It is always good to get into the mind
of the people who are trying to ignore the past, present, (and unless things
drastically change in the next 20 seconds) future.
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american
From: agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Guess Who's Back)
Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.044707.19152@samba.oit.unc.edu>
 Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
>>Although I don't think anyone has as a goal to equate the percentage of black
>>engineers to thier percentage of the population. Rather, it is just to increase
>>the percentage

TP>Why? What are the excuses for such overt racism?
I fail to see how expressing a desire to increase the number of black engineers
is overt racism.  Please explain yourself.

?>If 9% of engineers were black, I don't think anyone would see>a problem. On the other hand, 4% seems absurdly low.

TP>So 9% is your quota then?

Acee Agoyo
agoyo1@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
Organization: my opinions only
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:25:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov24.011319.20778@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) writes:
>>>Increasing the number of black engineers by definition requires racial
>>>discrimination. Engaging in racial discrimination is by definition racism.
>>
>>No it doesn't.  If the number of black engineers is lower than its
>>potential value because of racism, or lack of available decent
>>education, then eliminating those factors will increase the number of
>>black engineers.
>
>Sorry, no cigar. Even seeking to increase the number of black engineers
>by removing racism from the path of prospective black engineers or improving
>the education of prospective black engineers is racist being that
>it involves racial discrimination in determining from whom racism is
>to be removed and to whom education is to be improved.

I guess I wasn't clear enough.  If we eliminate racism from
*everybody*, and ensure that *everybody* has access to a decent
education, then the number of black engineers will increase (assuming
that the number of black engineers was held down by racism and lack of
education to a greater extent than the number of non-black engineers).

>No matter how you slice it, when you categorize people by race (as in
>the case of black engineers) and seek to act upon that category (as in
>increasing their number) you are engaging in racism.

But I'm seeking to increase the numbers of all engineers; I care about
the toys they can build for me to play with, not about their skin
colors.  As a side effect, I'm pointing out that this will tend to
increase the racial balance.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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