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From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Subject: Clean Up Window is a Pain
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:08:38 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks


I hate it when "Clean Up Wiondow" spreads the icons all over the place
even when they can easily fit in the available space in a window.

I remember System 6.* used to snap it to closest empty position whereas
System 7 throws the icons in random direction and they just have to be
manually dragged into position again.

I know I can use Snap to Grid but I do remember that Clean Up Window
just worked more intelligently in System 6.0.8 etc unless I am
doing something wriong with Sys7

Imran
From: hagberg@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (HAGBERG JR, D. J.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Help for pizza lover needing apple stuff
Summary: where do i get stuff
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:01:00 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <dtb.724486095@otto>, dtb@otto (David Bath) writes...
>I'll admit I am not fond of Macs, but I need to know where the
>archives, newsgroups, FAQ's are for a friend with a Mac but no
>internet experience.
>
It seems that my newsreader barfed at your return address--it didn't
have a domain or nodename so you may want to check that.  So I 
had to reply by posting...

sumex-aim.stanford.edu is the standar repository in the info-mac
directory.  There is also mac.archive.umich.edu.  Help with 
downloading is available in the info-mac/help directory.  He will 
need a comm program or some method of downloading a file to his mac
in "MacBinary" format.  Most mac comm programs including NCSA Telnet
(for ftp if that's a option) have a setting to download as a 
Macbinary file.

The first one you want to get is info-mac/util/binhex-40.bin.  Be
sure to do *all* the transfers in binary mode and the download to the
mac in MacBinary mode.  You should then have a program that will 
decode all of those .hqx files.  The next program you should 
get is /util/stuffit-expander-30.hqx, which you can download in ASCII
format, decode with Binhex4, and double-click to install.  This will
yield a program that will do de-binhexing, and decompression of all
the popular Mac compression formats (Stuffit 1.5.1, Stuffit Deluxe, and
Compact Pro are the major formats, denoted by .sit and .cpt respectively).

Hope this helps.  There are many more mac ftp sites, but the 
aforementioned 2 will certainly get you started.

                        -=- D. J.
                        -=- hagberg@ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: Re: StartUpScreen under System 7
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:03:41 GMT

The best: a file of any type, with a PICT resource of ID=0. The file should
be named "StartUpScreen".

Rajiv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sscott@mcs.kent.edu (Stephen Scott)
Subject: MAC emulators on unix?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:19:53 GMT

Has anyone heard anything about LIKEN - this claims to be a macintosh
emulation environment for unix systems.  I found it in a SUN World ad
by a company called Andataco.  However, the "fine print" at the bottom
of the page says - "Liken is a trademark of Xcelerated Systems Inc." 
So I assume that Andataco is the marketing firm.

- Has anyone used this and have any comments?

- Even at the educational price I may be better off buying another Mac
  if performance & integration is not outstanding.

- Are there any other similar products on the market?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Ravi Konchigeri <mongoose@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: History was made today...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7561538F60100ED@kimball-pc-316.stanford.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 11:30:00 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:27:10 GMT

In article <1gqec8INN7e4@transfer.stratus.com> Jim Mann,
jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
> Five years ago Macs had far surpassed PCs. Today, I'd argue that
>they are somewhat better, but it's pretty close, and there are a few
>things I like better in Windows than on the Mac. . . .

	This brings up a good question.  Whenever I get into arguments with my IBM
friends about interfaces I always hear the comment, "But the Mac interface can
be so annoying at times."  and then a long list of how a command line
interface is better, tra la la la la.  So I respond with names like
'QuickKeys' and 'NowMenus' and 'command equivalents,' and they stare at me,
confused, and I enlighten them.:)
	Well, my question is, has anyone found anything really annoying with Finder
that they haven't been able to fix with some nifty init or the other? 
Basically, does anyone have any huge complaints about the Mac System that are
completely unresolvable?


'Anything is possible.  It's just that all of the good things are highly
improbable.'

Ravi Konchigeri.
mongoose@leland.stanford.edu
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From: isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: ** WARNING ** AVOID TIGER SOFTWARE!!!!
Keywords: TIGER SOFWARE, DAVID SIEGEL, FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:28:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In August of this year, I ordered some software from Tiger Software, a
mail order company in Coral Gables, Florida. Weeks went by and I never 
received the software even though I specified and paid extra for
overnight delivery.

I spoke with several drones at the company and then finally spoke to
the head customer service drone, Dave Siegel and demanded a refund.
He claimed that my refund was 'in the mail'.  Three weeks have passed
since then and I have not received it.

If you are thinking of ordering from TIGER SOFTWARE, my advice to you
is DON'T DO IT!  If you already have, call 1-800-888-6111 ext 4492 and try
to get your money back before it's too late.

I have filed a mail fraud complaint against
them and have pro-bono legal help in order to get my money back. If
you don't want to go through this sort of thing, order from a
reputable place --  NOT TIGER SOFTWARE!



Sylvia Isler
isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:04:33 EST
Subject: Re: Soft_PC. How compatible is it?

It's also worthy of notice that the graphics support of the various packages:

SoftPC (both versions) - CGA -- $125 or so for entry -- $200 for regular
(emulates an 8086 xt)
SoftAT - EGA/CGA  -- $300 (286 AT)
SoftPC Windows - VGA/EGA/CGA -- $400
(dont know processor)

SoftPC Windows can run windows and most vga games. But OTOH, it's so slow that
Quadras are recommended for good performance, and at $400 (and up), we're
edging awfully close to cheap VGA machines anyway.

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From: joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu (John Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: (Q) Size of file openable by TeachText program
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:58:44 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mensa.usc.edu
Summary: s
Keywords: teachtext


It seems that the size of the leargest file that can be opened and read by
teachtext is around 8 KByte. But I noticed that some readme file that come
with some shareware programs are openable by teachtext program even when
their size is like 20K or so. (And it's not that these more than 8k files
came with their own special version of teachtext. I'm just using what
teachtext I have on my harddisk.) Could somebody explain why this is possible
and what is restricting teachtext from opening big files? Is there a way to
fix this?

Please email me.

Thanks.

John

-- 
Joung-woo John Kim				joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu
Computer Science Dept.
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0781
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:58:37 EST
Subject: Re: Mystery cdev--Voice Record

You got it. Voice record is installed by the word 5.0/5.1 installer when you
get voice annotation capabilities....it's the recording panel that appears
when you choose insert voice
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word 4.0b14 error
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:41:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.211442.15536@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Chesterton) writes:
>
[... errors ...]

>                           We run Microsoft Word 4.0b14 on a variety of 
>  macintoshes (compact and modular, system 6.0.7 and up).  

>  Anyways, if some soul out there has a solution/rationale for our Word
>  errors, please let me know!

Yes.  Get the legal, supported, and presumably bug-fixed public
release version of the software.

Nobody has a legal right to be running 4.0b14 ... even a beta-
tester would have been obligated to delete it as part of a
normal beta-testers non-disclosure agreement.  You wouldn't
even be allowed to mention the EXISTENCE of such a bug under
the agreements I'm familiar with.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Rob_Stokes.Operations@QMail.SSC.Gov (Rob Stokes)
Subject: Re: Apple 14" and 13" RGB comparsion?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: SSC Information Center
Distribution: USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:04:19 GMT

In article <Dec.4.01.10.09.1992.14942@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
hongyu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (H.Y.S.) wrote:
> 
> Hi, Netter:
> Is there any one knows the differences between Apple 13' and 14" RGB?
> Are they have the same area for window using?
> Henry

We just bought a 14" Apple monitor (not the RGB one) and it measures 13"
diagonally!  The quality of the picture is really good.  I can't tell the
difference between it and my 13" RGB Monitor at work.  Oh, I think this
monitor was made by Magnavox; well, it looks exactly like the Magnavox
monitor sitting on the shelf.
Rob Stokes
SSC Laboratory
From: jjk@astro.umd.edu (Jim Klavetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: macro application
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:39:20 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

I've recently bought a new mac, and of course am now using system7.
Although not a good macro program, I use MacroMaker at my mac at
school (the price was right).  I'm now thinking of actually buying
something better and would appreciate any recommendations for a sys7
friendly macro program (hopefully better than Macromaker).

Thanks for any responses.

jjk@astro.umd.edu also for Athabasca and Reudi
Jim Klavetter
Astronomy
UMD
College Park, MD  20742
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.invest
From: neuling@admiral.uucp (Nathan Neulinger)
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:56:34 GMT




One other thing you have to remember is that when you compare Apple and IBM
sales, you are not comparing the same thing.

IBM sells all sorts of things, typewriters, mainframes, minis, pcs, etc.
Apple sells Macintosh's and assorted Mac peripherals.

If you compare their share of the Personal Computer market, Apple has
IBM beat... (Apple vs IBM, not Apple vs PC-Compatible)

Nathan Neulinger
From: csc_hector@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Mactoes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: .sit suffix sites for mac
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:06 CDT
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu
X-Lunar-Date: 0 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes since the last quarter of the moon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   

In article <1992Dec17.210655.23058@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, tsandeson@mta.ca writes...
> 
>   Hello:
> 
> 
>  I seem to have run into a problem, There are anonymous FTP sites out there
>for the mac that contain files such as......  bubba.sit.....now I know this
>is a mac file but every time I download any file with just sit as the
>suffix it will not open, it just kicks me off my retieval program. Why is 
>this happening? any mac program with.....bubba.sit.hqx works O.K. but files
>with just .sit screw up majorly........HELP HELP HELP
> 
Have tried changing from ASCII to BINARY as the FILE TYPE?
> 
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Hector Rodriguez - Computer Hardware Specialist  (Mactoes, a mac appendage)
 University of Houston-Downtown, Houston, Texas USA
 csc_hector@uhdbit                                         csc_hector@dt.uh.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho)
Subject: Re: Apple Crippling Systems?!?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:22:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.165439.15663@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> steelem@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (STEELE MARK A) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Interesting observation, I feel the same way. Something else that I didn't
>see mentioned in your post (I appoligize if I missed it) is that the machines
>mentioned above had a relativly long life span. If you purchased an SE/30
>it wasn't replaced by a 'better' machine two months later at the same price.
>The new machines are constantly being 'improved' at a rate that would make
>the buyer think "If I wait a few months a new better machine will be announced
>at a better price". I realize that machines are always being improved and
>prices will come down, in the PC arena this is a forced move driven by
>compitition among various manufactures, since Apple is the only one making
>Macintoshes why are they acting as though they are compeating against
>themselves for the making a cheaper Mac, instead of trying to take away some
>of the PC market?
Because they *are* competing for the PC market with different flavors
of cheaper Macs. It's the same reason why the idea of 'you can get any
color, so long as it's black" won't work now. People have different
wants, requirements, budgets, and it is in Apple's best interests
to aim for those markets. The speed at which technology advances is
really incredible- the 040 followed the 030 much faster than the 030
followed the 020, yet with incrementally vaster power. Pretty amazing.
>
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:20585 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:3291
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardwarecomp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,
Distribution: world
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:28:40 EST
Subject: Re: Mac & IBM Info (added Info)

yes, for example you  can buy 24 bit video card for your LC and get 32 bit
graphics--- this would not be possible if 32 bit quickdraw were not in the 
LC's roms.
Only recent (1989 or so and later) macs have 32 bit quickdraw in rom tho...
other's load it in from disk (in system 6, there's a file called 32bit
quickdraw which drops into system folder -- dont know about 7)
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From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:23:57 EST
Subject: Re: Mac 512K(!) Word Processor

writenow 2.0 works fine, and so does I believe version 2.2,  which came with a
grammar checker as well as the standard spelling checker. For speed and
memory, you  cant beat writenow (but I think 3.0 might not run comfortably on
a 512)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eyee@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sigma Ed)
Subject: 2up driver
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:40:33 GMT


I would like to know whether there exist a printer driver such that it will print
documents in 2up format. ie, reduced size and two on 1 page.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year



Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: wang_dj@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Subject: SAM/THINK C incompatability
Followup-To: poster 
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:43:19 GMT


I have come across a rather interesting problem involving THINK C and SAM      
intercept.  I have SAM intercept set to 'custom protection' with everything on.
When I startup THINK C and try to create a project, I get all the 'blah blah
trying to create a resouce code' etc..  This is obviously expected.  When I try
hitting the 'learn' button, however, my computer crashes.

I am using a Duo210, system 7.1.  I do have a number of extentions running, and
I have not tried turning them all off, but I do not think that they are the
problem

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
David J. Wang                                    CAUTION!
wang_dj@server.cs.jhu.edu                SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
_______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: heyes@dadev.cebaf.gov (Graham Heyes)
Subject: Re: Autodoubler
Organization: Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility
	<7057@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> <2025@intermec.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:25:58 GMT

In article <2025@intermec.UUCP> howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696) writes:


   I have them stumped though on an AD 2.0 problem with my Mac SE. I am running
   6.0.7 without MultiFinder.  Basically what happens is AD will never quit
   scanning! If I set the delay to 3 minutes it will start the scan on schedule
   and display the scanning icon as it should. It takes roughly 10 minutes to
   scan my 100 meg external Quantum for potential files to scan. When complete
   it immediately starts scanning again with no scanning icon visible. Once this
   starts it never stops until I hit a key or move the mouse. Checking the AD
   control panel usually shows a future scheduled scan as one would expect, but
   it never really gets to this since it never stops scanning.  

   This problem is driving me and 5th generation nuts. I have tried everthing
   they suggested so far inlcuding re-installation, runnning a heap fixer
   program (Bootman) and killing all inits excpet AD/DD.  No luck yet! 


I have posted on EXACTLY the same subject to comp.sys.mac.apps (or maybe system)
anyway the same thing is happening to me, exactly the same symptoms. 

So far I have...

1) Rebuilt desktop (ater using ResEdit to make visible + trashing old desktop)

2) Removed AD and re-installed, repeat 1)

3) Called 5th Generation.

4) Deleted hidden AD file using ResEdit to make visible etc, go back to 1)

5) repeat stages 1,4,2 in that order.

6) Repeat all stages without re-installing AD, back up to floppys,
   ERASE hard drive, re-install AD.

The problem persists. I have System 6.0.7, crash barrier, after dark hierDA, 
appolo and a few others. Symptoms  appeared 2 weeks after upgrade to 2.0.

Any suggestions could be useful,

		Graham Heyes
From: Rudolf R. Sinkovics <sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: AWK & X-Archie for the Mac ? - ANSWER
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:57:39 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Econ. & Bus. Admin., Vienna (Austria)
Distribution: world
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sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A. Sturrock)
Subject: Re: What's missing from Q700/Q950?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:58:57 GMT

mcote@celine.sw.stratus.com (Mike Cote) writes:



>faster CPU and 32 bit clean ROMs (I currently have a IIcx).

Bingo! Although my heart belongs to the SE/30, I suspect a lot of folks
would by a "spiritual successor" to that other perfect Macintosh, the IIcx.

						-ks
From: rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Berger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIci is Great?? Was Re: Apple Crippling Systems?!?
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:01:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzJvr4.LyI.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <85411@ut-emx.uucp> ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)  
writes:
 
> The //ci is slower than the vx IMHO unless you do your simms correctly.
> If you do not have 1MB in Bank A and whatever in Bank B, your  
performance
> will slllloooooowwwwww down due to swapping.  The vx uses VRAM.

Not really swapping, but memory contention; the video gets priority.

This slowdown goes away if you use an aftermarket video card. My IIci
benchmarks faster when I plug the monitor into my Radius 24Xp instead
of the internal video. (The internal video is not active if no monitor
is detected via the sense pins on the monitor connector).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: powerbook-ext.monitor-screensavers?
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 04:06:58 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:03:19 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A756FEE296019B15@mm-mac21.mse.uiuc.edu>

i'm usinga powerbook 180 under system 7.1 with an 13" apple rgb monior as
the primary screen. i'm also using the connectix powerbook utilities with
the lcd panel screen saver.

1. using the backlight dimmer darkens both the powerbook and ext. monitor
screen. themanual says that when i then press a key the brightness on
both screens will increase and it does but the desktop on the screens
does not reappear and i have to restart.  

 has anyone else had this happen?

2. i'd like to usea screensaver for the monitor which is lefton for 12
hrs. at a time but the two i have, Eclipse and Moire both cause problems
(one casues a system error on starting and the other screws up the lcd
panel display.

is there a screen saver i can use withthe ext. moniotr connected to the
powerbook?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.invest
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:42:38 GMT

In article <craigw-181292084150@fnpm06.fnal.gov> craigw@fnal.fnal.gov (Craig Williams) writes:
>
>Well Troy, this year Apple sold more machines than IBM. Now I dont have
>exact numbers, and no that does not include all the clones either, but it
>does illustrate a graph pointing in a direction that Mac users like to look
>at.

I seem to recall reading in the Wall St. that Apple outsold IBM for
part of the year, but during the last 3 months, IBM has taken the
lead.  This is from my failing memory, so if anyone has definitive
data, please add.

-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." Oscar Wilde