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From: clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Norton Commander for OS/2
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:11:31 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
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gus@deathstar.dell.com (Gus Campman) writes:


>I am a registerd user of Norton Commander for OS/2 and am happy with it to
>a degree (it is a 1.0 release after all..).
>Things I would like to see:

>-Zip file viewing/extraction
>-Gif/BMP/ACAD .DWG viewing
>-Backup program??
>-Assignment of extensions with  programs (for double clicking on a
>datafile for quick startup)
>-if a program is an OS/2 or Windows program, show a small rep. of its icon
>in the file listing
>-ability to start the program as an icon!!
>-an OOPS command for undeleting files immediately after deleting them.
>-multi-threading
>-refresh of drives in background (so that you dont have to continually do
>it by hand)
>-make it faster (particularly the file viewer which really chugs...)

>Good Product overall!

yeah... overall...

one thing I really do not like is the way it transfers files between
the HD and floppy drives... such a transfer sucks all the power the
machine has... even the analog clock stops while it is transferring
the files... hence the transfers seem to be done with really high priority...
behaviour I would expect from Windows but not from a genuine 32bit
OS/2 application...

but then... as you say... it is an 1.00 release... :-)

- Clemens
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Monday, 18 Jan 1993 18:34:38 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: WPS-Beta: Association great - sauf little bug

With the 2.1 beta one can assign file-extensions to certain program-
objects. The effect is twofold, firstly the first associated program
icon will be shown for all files meeting the search-criteria, secondly
if you double-click on it the default program will be executed (or
you can use the object-property-pop-up with MB2 and choose another
program from the Open-settings).

The little bug I referred to in the subject line is as follows: if
an association took place already and if I change the icon of the
program-object, the *new* icon will not be propagated thru to the files.
Therefore a changed icon will not be reflected in the associated files, unless
you reboot OS/2.

E.g. Asscociate the PMGIF-viewer with files of extension "*.gif". Thereafter
look GIF-files up with the drive-object. Change the appearence of PMGIF.EXE's
icon. Refresh the drive-object - no changes take effect with the 2.1beta.
Booting OS/2 causes the icons to take the new appearence.

---rony
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Subject: First impression on WP4W 5.2
From: ghdai@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:53:39 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

WP4W 5.2 behaves much better now under OS/2 than 5.1.  It now longer leaves
a process called -zombie- (by a utility called PSPM2 that can be found at
Hobbes) running after it is closed.  Now I really believe that WP did make
some efforts to let it run OK under OS/2.

However, under OS/2 2.1 beta, I can not let it choose a windoze printer driver.
Anybody has got similar problem?

Guohuan H. Dai/2
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From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: Re: Dual Boot
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:44:19 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In <1k8657INNhn@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> onstotc@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Fungus) writes:
>I just installed the 2.1 beta.  I used the dual boot option to boot dos off 
>c:  Unfortunately, my os2 info is not accessable under DOS. What command do I 
>use to make it boot back into os2?   Any help would be appreciated.
>

Use C:\OS2\BOOT /OS2 (using the correct drive letter, but if you're using
dual boot, then it has to be C: 8-)

>
>P.S.  I was impressed with what I saw!!
>

Good, I think you'll like it more as time goes on!

Cliff Nadler
IBM Federal Systems Company

Note: This post represents the views of the poster, not those of IBM or the
      IBM Federal Systems Company
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From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ron Jones)
Subject: Designer for OS/2 "disappointing"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:57:22 GMT

PC Week reviewed two OS/2 programs in their Jan 18 issue:  Polypm/2 a 
remote control package and Micrographics designer for OS/2.  

The review of Designer was rather disappointing apparently this is a 
simple port (using mirrors) of the windows version.  They said its speed 
was virtually the same.  Also it failed to properly use long file names 
on HPFS disks.  They also reported a number of problems using this 
version with the CSD, which are reportedly being fixed.  These problems 
were primarily with the 32-bit graphics drivers.  Sounds like it was 
completed before the CSD!  On the positive side they did say that it 
overcame some of the limitations of the windows vesion such as limited 
support for graphics modes and memory restrictions.  
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From: adkinsg@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Garry Adkins)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:55:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.152712.15720@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>>and remember that the new version will come w/ almost $20 worth of
>>diskettes!!
>
>If they only charge for the diskettes, manuals, packaging, and
>shipping, I won't complain.  But I will be very pissed off if some
>gang of lawyers wants to add on an extra $30 to go into Bill Gates's
>pockets.
>

There's no real way around this one.  I suspect you should be gearing
up to get "pissed off".  You're paying $15-20 to microsoft per each
now, and that won't change soon.  This (again) is the driving force
behind a "windowless" os/2.  It is real microsoft code in there,
and IBM must pay microsoft real money for it.

Garry

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: W4W and the 2.1 beta..? font menu
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:06:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.184609.9157@colorado.edu> doug@shako.Colorado.EDU (Doug McKnight) writes:
>This may be a FAQ but if so I haven't seen it.
>I find that word for windows under the new 2.1b has no fonts visible in its
>font pull down menu. The menu is visible, it is just empty. The fonts are
>there ( I installed them ) because I can type in the name to use a 
>particular font. Likewise with the character size menu.
>This happens full screen or seamless.

This is a common problem with Word for Windows.  Just select File ->
Printer Setup (?) and then click on OK.  Your typefaces will be
reestablished.

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From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 03:54:34 GMT

In article <9195@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:
>Thats right, FREE! GRATIS! NO CHARGE!! NO COST!!! THEY PROMISED
>THIS! I don't give a fuck if this is a good deal for IBM or not, I
>don't give a damn if this was a smart move on their part. The god
>damn bottom line for all you thick headed morons who seem completely
>incapable of understanding even the most fundamental concepts of
>offer and acceptance, is that IBM PROMISED TO GIVE IT TO ALL 2.0
>USERS FOR FREE! PERIOD! END OF DISCUSSION!!

You obviously have a reference or else you wouldn't sound so sure of
yourself. I would like to look that up myself, what is it?

Don't be a stupid dick. IBM didn't promise you a damn thing and you
know that. The only upgrade I've ever heard IBM actually promise
before release was 1.3->2.0.

I don't love IBM. I could care less if they give away the whole damn
company. Guess what though, unlike many people in this group, I'm:

A) Honest.
B) Not a greedy son-of-a-bitch.

TTYL - Steve
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From: holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 Crashes when DOS makes sound!
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:41:59 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

CFORDE@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca (Carl Forde) writes:

>In article <C1FI8H.DG7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway) writes:
> 
>>I'm having this rather frustrating OS/2 problem:
>>
>>Whenever I run a DOS program under OS/2, whether its a window or
>>full-screen, the entire operating system comes to a screeching
>>halt when the DOS application beeps (or uses the speaker in any way.)
> 
>In the DOS SETTINGS try setting HW_NOSOUND (?) to ON.  With this set
>the DOS box can't make a peep.
> 

Ok...but shouldn't there be a way to make it work correctly?  I'd
hate to have to enter the Settings for each of my DOS programs to make
them work correctly.  I wonder if there are more up-to-date versions
of the sound driver.  (Incidentally, I'm running the 12/9/92 beta
release on a 486DX/33 with a SCSI Adaptec drive.)

The aforementioned solution reminds me of a user who was getting parity
errors on his memory, so somebody told him to turn of parity-checking
in his BIOS!  ;-)

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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Pyramid OS/2 2.0 Security PC/DACS for OS/2
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:29:16 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I just got this package today on their trial but before installing I took a
closer look at it.  It turns out to look more like something for network
environment than  a stand alone os/2 system.

Does anyone know anything about this product?  Has anyone used it or tried
it out?  I'm curious to hear some feedback before I go and open the disks
up.  I got it for 49 (54 after shipping I think).  

Greg


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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:45:27 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <ez#@byu.edu> earlyd@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Early) writes:
>In article <1jk903INN912@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>
>>want to pay for the upgrade. I'm just surprised that nobody remembers
>>IBM promising that we'd get a free upgrade to Win 3.1 support when it
>>was ready, so that we all bought OS/2 2.0 when it was released instead
>
>I'm curious to find out if anybody has proof of this (ie a post to this
>or another newsgroup) specifcally stating that IBM said this would
>be the case.  I'm not sure that IBM said it, but we may have all just assumed
>it would be the case.  

If it comes down to this, then IBM should just not include Win 3.1.
Personally, the only Windows app I use, WinWord, will be replaced when
Lotus releases Ami Pro for OS/2 2.0.  While I'd like Win 3.1 around to
try out new shareware that comes through comp.binaries... groups, if
MS wants to make it a choice between money or nothing, I'll choose
nothing. 

>In my opinon, I don't think I can expect IBM to NOT charge.  Sooner or
>later they will have to charge something, or they won't see the point in 
>continuing developement.  IBM is not here to be a benevolent giant.

Because there will always be new sales.  Upgrades are maintenance, not
sales.  Especially now, with OS/2 sales increasing rapidly, IBM will
not lose any money offering upgrades for media charges.

>>of waiting for OS/2 2.1 like all the discussions we had here on Usenet
>>when 2.0 was first released. So nobody remembers this.... hmmm...

This whole things sounds like the service pack discussions.  Everyone
said it was dumb, crazy, or just impossible for IBM to ship out a
14-disk service pack for free.  They did it.  I see no reason why they
can't do the same with 2.1.  And if they're afraid of piracy, they can
also offer a CSD-style package that can be uninstallable over anything
other than an existing installation of OS/2.  

Personally, I think $50 is reasonable, considering the quantity of
stuff, expecially if the printed documentation improves.  But that's a
media charge - which is not (I hope) what we've been arguing for and
against here.
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Subject: Re: MathCad anyone?
From: jones@atmo1.atmo.arizona.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:12:15 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Atmospheric Sciences

.
.
.

> 
>>It is a Windows 3.1 program. Needs 2.1
> 
> 
> Maybe you can convince them to let you have a copy of mathcad 3.0 it runs 
> fine under os2 2.0. (Glad I never gave in to their requests to "upgrade" :)
> 
> I like the program very much. Think of it as the best calculator money can buy.
> 
> No Sig.


I "borrowed" a copy of 3.1 and found that it works pretty well under 2.0
with the SP.  Since then I have received my own copy and the documentation
says that it requires 2/3/486, 2mb memory with above 640 as ext,
7 mb hard drive, etc, and Windows 3.0 or later.

It works better than WFWs equation editor for me, but maybe I don't have
some special fonts loaded or something.  Of course MathCad just works ...

cgj
From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:36:14 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

kashmir@wam.umd.edu (Harold of the Rocks) writes:

>>How are IBM going to run Windows (future plans) under OS2 without the
>>protection schemes fighting?

>They fixed Windows so that it operates correctly as a DPMI client.

The net, and Soyring when he was here said that in future OS2 will not
include Windows code- they will simply aallow MSWindows to run under
OS2.
My question was, how will they do that? It does not seem likely that MS
will make all future Windows releases to be "good" clients.
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From: chris@actrix.gen.nz (Chris Double)
Subject: Re: TE/2
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:40:10 GMT

In article <raymond.728066819@manning> raymond@cs.UAlberta.CA (Au Raymond Tung) writes:
> I recently downloaded TE/2 and the new 32-bit DLL and this is my third
> attempt to get the program to work (I don't want to use my CPU hog DOS
> comm program anymore!).  I finally have the program working somewhat
> satisfactorily.  Unfortunately, after a session (ie: connect --> usage
> --> disconnect --> Alt-X), the TE/2 window simply clears and remains
> on the screen.  I've tried killing the window by clicking on the window
> close icon but that has no effect.  Strangely, after five or six minutes
> the window suddenly disappears!  I really want to get this program to 
> work but it seems everytime I fix something, something else goes wrong.
> Does anyone else have the same problems as I do?
> 
A previous post mentioned that TE/2 won't shut down when running
with certain other applications. It will stay with a blank screen
until the other offending application is closed. Then TE/2 will also
close.

I think CPULOAD was one of these applications. Also, some DOS
programs caused this as well.

If it happens again, try shutting down other programs one by one and
checking if TE/2 still exists. If it doesn't, you've found the
problem. 

Regards,

Chris Double.
chris@actrix.gen.nz
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From: grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com (Jeff Markel)
Subject: Re: Facelift/WP5.1 under OS/2???
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:11:52 GMT
Organization: Unix in NYC

In article <C16nqx.6vF@world.std.com> crosen@world.std.com (Carl Rosen) writes:
>grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com (Jeff Markel) writes:
>
>>I'm trying, with little luck so far, to get Word Perfect 5.1 to run with
>>Facelift 1.5 in a VDM.  
>
>>I've got a Laserjet II that had happily been using Facelift for WordPerfect
>>under DOS, but this doesn't seem to work under OS/2; instead I get several
>>hundred spool files filled with gibberish.
>
>Use FLSETUP and change the printer port mapping to LPT1 -> LPT1 (if your
>printer is on LPT1, of course.)  The main thing is that both fields have
>to match as hardware ports.  This worked for me until I installed the
>Service Pack.  Now, after I print a document, I must leave WordPerfect and
>restart it, or it will crash when the screen needs to be redrawn :(  I am
>not using FL + WP in a VDM, just a plain vanilla DOS session.
>
>-CR-
>

The problem has been solved...We changed (in FLSETUP) to point the printer
at LPT1.OS2.  Everything is working copacetic now.  BTW, we're running
this under the 2.1 beta.


                        Jeff Markel

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From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Norton Commander/2 for $49.00 for everyone
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:58:32 GMT

In article <21JAN199311235656@venus.tamu.edu> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
> 
>  I don't who else got the flyer from Symantec but they are currently
> running a special on Norton Commander for OS/2 for $49.00. This offer
> is good until March 1, 1993. To order you just have to call 1-800-343-4714
> 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week.  It looks pretty good from their ad.
> 
> 
> Tony Frey
> TCF9033@venus.tamu.edu

It is very nice......but not threaded. I got it looking at a CD-ROM and it
took 2 minutes to scan all the directories and files on the disk and the WPS
was not usable for anything else until it had completed the scan. For most
hard disks, this not a problem......it lasts about 5-10 seconds. But that CD
sure tied up the interface. 
 
The guys standing behind me yelled: "Ported Windows app!" when they saw
that......
 
Steve


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Subject: Re: OS/2 Crashes when DOS makes sound!
From: CFORDE@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca (Carl Forde)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:01:11 PST
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <C1Gzq0.A36@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway) writes:
 
>CFORDE@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca (Carl Forde) writes:
>
>>In article <C1FI8H.DG7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>>holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway) writes:
>>
>>>I'm having this rather frustrating OS/2 problem:
>>>
>>>Whenever I run a DOS program under OS/2, whether its a window or
>>>full-screen, the entire operating system comes to a screeching
>>>halt when the DOS application beeps (or uses the speaker in any way.)
>>
>>In the DOS SETTINGS try setting HW_NOSOUND (?) to ON.  With this set
>>the DOS box can't make a peep.
>>
>
>Ok...but shouldn't there be a way to make it work correctly?  I'd
 
Oh, you want to hear what it is saying... :-)
I think what you need to do then is change the HW_TIMER setting.
 
>hate to have to enter the Settings for each of my DOS programs to make
>them work correctly.  I wonder if there are more up-to-date versions
 
You could just change the settings in the Program Template and then use
this template for other DOS programs.  If you have Windows apps you will
probably want to do the same for them too.
 
>of the sound driver.  (Incidentally, I'm running the 12/9/92 beta
>release on a 486DX/33 with a SCSI Adaptec drive.)
>
>The aforementioned solution reminds me of a user who was getting parity
>errors on his memory, so somebody told him to turn of parity-checking
>in his BIOS!  ;-)
 
Yes, but I figured you would object if I told you to replace your
application. ;-)
 
 
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From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Problem with Startup folder solved..
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:20:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

Well, I solved my problem with my startup folder going insane on me. 
Actually quite easy to do. I killed it with the black hole and then ran this 
REXX script:

/* Create Startup Folder */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs
if \SysCreateObject('WPStartup', 'Startup', '<WP_DESKTOP>') then
  say 'New Startup folder created.'

Just thought I'd share my discovery in case anyone else runs into a similar 
problem.

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