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From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Subject: 50 YEARS AGO TODAY: October 11-14 - Guadalcanal
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Organization: University of Washington
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:51:35 GMT

As anxious eyes in Washington and To^kyo^ watched, war power poured into
Guadalcanal.  The Japanese side sought to wipe out the American beachhead; the
American side sought to hold it and to push the Japanese out.

On October 11, the US naval task force engaged the Japanese Navy near
Guadalcanal.  In the wake of US victory in that confrontation on October 12,
US Army units landed on Guadalcanal on October 13 to boost the American
presence.

The Japanese reaction was swift and terrible.  Having failed to take Henderson
Field on Guadalcanal on August 21, the Japanese turned to other means to deny
its use to the Americans.  By October 14, Japanese bombardment had rendered
Henderson Field unusable.  With this American lifeline now cut, the Japanese
army began to mass for an major offensive.
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Back-woods places (was Re: Actually)
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:17:52 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <_*#@byu.edu> luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:
>In article <Iepplqq00YV9E2fnkf@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:

>>By live in America, It is a lie to say that all the
>>White racists live in, excuse me, run around in the woods. There are
>>those who run around in center city Tokyo.

>True.  But the weirdest of the weird are those who congregate in back-woods
>places like the mountains of Montana and northern Idaho.

   I'm not sure how serious these words of Luke-san are, but this is 
something related to what I often wonder. 

   When my wife and I plan to make a vacation trip in the US, I often wonder 
if we are welcomed at the place. We could have visited northern Idaho without
any preliminary knowledge and had a bad experience. I also heard from
another Japanese that someone had thrown an ice cube at her at the bar in
some Southern state saying, "This is not a place for you."

   I wonder how we could find a place for a Japanese to stay away from.
Any good book to read? Are there any tips to have a good time even in such
a place?

Michiaki Masuda
From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:20:24 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista

In article <Oct.8.13.34.13.1992.1644@soliton.rutgers.edu> zzhang@soliton.
rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:

   >How can people talk about issues related to Japan with so few Japanese 
   >involved.

  Why on earth shouldn't people be capable of talking about issues related
to Japan with so few Japanese involved? Your question makes no apparent sense.

   >By the way, I am not a Japanese myself. 

  You don't say! With a name like "ZhiZhong Zhang", who could have guessed?
From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HANSHIN TIGERS
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Shinya Fujimoto (sf1x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: No, actually I'm not proud of myself for believing the team, but I'm
: proud of myself that I'm a member of the Hanshin fan community.  

No offense intended against Fujimoto-san, but just another thought:

Tigers freaks are a kind of fanatic people. I saw a scene in the TV: 
Tigers freaks at Koushien stadium yelled "Go home" while Swallows'
team manager Nomura was on interview when Swallows won the victory
of the Central League games 1992. I hate this kind of mentality,
while I have nothing personal about Hanshin Tigers or any other
baseball teams in Japan. But unfortunately I hear many stories -
in Hiroshima City Stadium Carp fans do nasty things, and in Nagoya
Stadium Dragons fans do nasty things. 

Well, maybe this is another side of Japanese culture.

// Kenji, living in Toyonaka-city, Osaka
--
Kenji Rikitake, cyberspace samurai
<kenji@tom.astem.or.jp> <kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp> <...!uunet!reseau!kenji>
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Ryuichi Sakamoto
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:44:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <IeqEY_C00Uh_I3PpV0@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>
>             Before I go home I would like ask about Ryuichi Sakamoto's
>new Album. I bought the last one "Beauty" on the record Virgin Label. I
>also heard that he did a concert back in February of this year. Did he
>record another since than? I've been in America since early 1987 and I
>haven't came back home since.
>I would be grateful for this help. Thanks   

I'm posting rather than emailing because I think that other people may be
interested. 

Ryuichi Sakamoto's latest album "Heartbeat" is definitely not his best. I have
a tape of the Japanese version and the CD of the UK version. They are 
different.

The English version has a batch of mildly interesting songs/tracks, but the
only (IMHO) really interesting ones are two *excellent* collaborations with
David Sylvian (this may be a bit biased as I am a Sylvian fan). The songs
are:	Heartbeat (Tainai kaiki)
and	Cloud #9

Recently when I played the Japanese version I was very surprised to find that
these songs were missing. But, the rhythm track to "Heartbeat (Tainai Kaiki)"
was there - with a different lead vocal - and a rather unimpressive one at
that. I've noted that the UK CD was released half way through this year,
which is a long time after the Japanese one. I'm very curious to know if the
US release has the above two songs (w/ David Sylvian) or not. (Anybody going
to email me?)

Anyways, if you're thinking of getting this CD, I strongly advise you to get
the UK (international?) pressing as the Japanese version is IMHO not really
worth it.

I'm sure there's a story as to how the CD ended up like this, but naturally
I don't know what it is.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Help needed for two Japanese names
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:10:31 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 90309@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au, weiping@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au () writes:
>Could anybody help me to put the following Japanese names into English please?
>Your help is appreciated.
>
>
>1.
>           |                     |              \  \     /
>     ------|-----          -------------      /-------------/
>         / | \            |      |     |     /    ------/
>        /  |  \           |     / \    |               /
>       /   |   \          |    /   \   |         -----|-----
>      /    |    \         |           \|              |
>
          ki                     uchi              manabu
>
>2.      /
>       /|----------|     |-------------|     \  /----------
>        |  |----|  |     |    |   |    |         |------|
>        |  |    |  |     |    |   |    |     \   |  \   |
>        |  |----|  |     |    /   |--  |        -|------|-
>        |         \|     |-------------|     /   |---\--|---
>                                                       \|
>
           mukai-opposite side  yon-4?            umi-sea
>Weiping Hu



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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Actually!
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:36:36 GMT
	<1959@hsdndev.UUCP> <1482@wakasato.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp>
	<Mep50fG00WBNI1fYhN@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu's message of 8 Oct 92 15:13:47 GMT

In article <Mep50fG00WBNI1fYhN@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu
   (Rikiya Asano) writes:

 =} [...]

   In summary:

	'Some whites are bad so all whites are bad.  This goes against the
	 stereotypes I had.  There are bad Japanese people, but they aren't
	 as bad as whites.  We asians need to stick together.  But we can't
	 because the other asians hate the Japanese.  When I see a Korean,
	 I try to ignore the problem and treat him like a Korean. Nostradamus
	 says we must integrate with the rest of humanity.  And why do white
	 boys (you all are) complain so much about Japan?  Asians have it
	 worse in the US.  Should Japan treat others as animals too?  No.
	 So I want to go home to the Rising Sun...

   Calm down and speak reasonably or people will think you're as ignorant
as the racist comments you made...  Fighting racism with racism will only
get you a full mailbox and maybe a peptic ulcer.

   And take it from a white boy who had to live with prejudice in the US
and now in Japan: ignorance is a highly contagious disease, but give it a
few shots of reality whenever you find it (even in yourself) and you'll
be helping to stop the epidemic...

Al
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 11:29:19 MDT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Who composed the J-land anthem?
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <1bj5naINNau7@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>I have heard once before that the anthem was composed by a German composer
>based on his impressions of Japan.  Of course I may be dead wrong on this,
>but when did the modern national Japanese anthem come about?  

The words are a slightly-modified tanka from, if I remember right, the 
Kokin Wakashuu, which was compiled somewhere back in the Heian jidai.  The
music was composed by a musician that was part of the Imperial staff
(Household Agency?  maybe.) back in the Meiji jidai, and was (or wasn't,
depends on who you ask) adopted as the national anthem soon after.  I've
got the name of the composer somewhere, and the dates.  I can look them up
if you're really interested.
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|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Re: Re the Rikiya Asano rants
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:35:19 GMT

In article <geqDBvq00Uh_E3PyVY@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>Mark,
>
>      First you label me as a "Dai-Nippon Teikoku". Now, you want to
>take away my indentity. Too, the faculty at Cmu's Art Dept. already
>tried and failed I
>might add. Maybe other Japanese consider this label as "A part of
>History" but I 
>have two many friends from China, Taiwan, Indonesian, Thailand, Korea,
>even a few friends from Nanking).And many other places in Asia. So, you
>are in Nippon
>But right Fattche from Singapore Is reading while I'm write to you. I
>would be as two faced as you are if I were to even accept such a label
>knowing how much 
>destruction/misrey The Imperial Japanese System left on the rest of
>Asia. You never heard an Japanese talk like this in Nihon. But, I'm not
>in Japan you fool.
>No, i'll take that back your NOT THE FOOL, I'm the fool for wasting my
>time write to you. By one thing I will leave you with Sir, I may be easy
>to convince 
>island people but and island is just that.  


Two things I recommend you do:

1) English lessons
2) fix up your annoying tendancy to insult people off the issues ("fool"?)

Thanks,

Mark

P.S. Oh, by the way, I agree with you when you said you were a fool.
-- 
    .  .      +---------------------------------+
  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
  --|--|      +---------------------------------+
From: htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Jschool III
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:48:56 GMT


GAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

Was my Japanese School 3 ever posted???
I asked for replies on suggestions but I got none and I can't
seem to find it so I'll repost it now.



===============================================================
htakeda@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

HIRO "The HAB" Takeda
GO Montreal Canadiens, Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies, Taiyo Whales,
Montreal Expos, and the Dallas Cowboys.
UC Irvine, Electrical and Comp. Engin., Info. and Comp. Science.
"What good is a used up world and how can it be worth having?"
ALL THIS TIME - STING
===============================================================
From: TOGE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Nobukazu Toge)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese?
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:22:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Well, Mr.Zhang -

I can access to this newsgroup from two sites, one in U.S.A, the other
in Japan.  At my U.S.A. site I think I am getting all the messages
posted on s.c.j.  At my Japanese site the news reader recognizes s.c.j.
but it looks it's not getting any "ordinary" posts (i.e. all the ranting and
grumbling and word-twisting and stuff scattered across occasionaly reasonable
ones, you know), except some announcement types.

I don't know if it's "technical difficulties" or  "preference" of sys
admin or what.   I have no way of knowing if this situation is the case
for many other Japanese sites, but if it is, that would answer part of
your question.

- Nobu Toge (ex-SLAC, now KEK)

#include <StandardDisclaimers.h>
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Asano
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:39:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kerqv6e00iUy86vpAm
	<1992Oct16.184147.3771@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Ichikawa,

                    I don't think I am high. When I go to ge high I get
a bottle
of Yukon jack(100pf). or Southen Comfort(100pf) or Ronico(purple
lable151pf) and
a couple of Colt 45's. I love Malt Liquor. But you are partly right. For
one, what is this flame stuff? Two, why is it so destressing for
Japanese to be like I am? Three, Do you think that you are comfortable
with me being Japanese? Four,
Do I indirectly give you doubt about going to a different country? Thank
you for your informative letter.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Buddhist Sects
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:44:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1bj7goINNb4l
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

OK, so we all realize Buddhists are not Asian skinheads.  So then, since
Nichiren Shoushuu and Soka Gakkai are rapid-growth industries in Northern
California, can someone explain the difference (or is N-S a subsidiary
of S-G)?  Otta sign up when Soka Gakkai gets around to campus interviewing.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Ryuichi Sakamoto
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:05:30 GMT

In article <4618@sinec.cent.saitama-u.ac.jp> hash@ikarac5.ctrl.saitama-u.ac.jp (Toshihiko Hashimoto) writes:

>>The English version has a batch of mildly interesting songs/tracks, but the
>>only (IMHO) really interesting ones are two *excellent* collaborations with
>>David Sylvian (this may be a bit biased as I am a Sylvian fan). The songs
>>are:	Heartbeat (Tainai kaiki)
>>and	Cloud #9

>Actually, Tainai Kaiki collaborated with David Sylvian is 
>not included in the Japanese version.  He sang it at that
>concert, and his voice really suited with Sakamoto's songs.
>We could find another collaboration by them in the movie
>sound track CD, "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence".  I do not
>know anything about "JAPAN"(this doesn't mean our country)
>at all, however, I love his voice.

They did another collaboration (an EP) which is available on CD. One side is
"Bamboo Music", the other is "Bamboo Houses" (I think). Bamboo Music is pretty
good. If you haven't heard _JAPAN_, I'd reccomend "Gentlemen Take Polaroids",
probably their best albumn, and it contains a track "Taking Islands in Africa"
which is also a collaboration with Sakamoto.

BTW, the Japanese version of "Undo #1" (the Sapporro beer commercial tune) is
far better than the full albumn version; Sakamoto doesn't sing on it :-)

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: 939messana@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: PENPAL INFO WANTED
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:02:03 EST
Summary: PENPALS
Organization: Western Michigan University



	HI!  I really don't know if this is the right newsgroup to be posting
this in, but I'll give it a try.... I would like to have a Japanese penpal
and I don't know how to go about getting one....Any help would be
appreciated.

			Arigatoo Gozaimasu,
					Ronin

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: abraham@f1.facts.uky.edu (abraham salazar)
Subject: Where is Aoyamagakuin University
Reply-To: abraham@f1.facts.uky.edu (abraham salazar)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:36:35 GMT

Does anybody know who I might contact to find the e-mail address of  
someone at Aoyamagakuin University?

I am also looking for a professor Itoga Masaru at Keio University, does  
anyone know who I might contact to find his e-mail address?

thanks,

Abraham Salazar
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: gifts to bring to Japan?
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 28405@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp, d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.184830.13502@lsil.com>
>	mitch@lsil.com writes:
>>If you really want to make a kid happy, take beef jerky.  It's like gold over
>>there.  Everyone (unless they have bad teeth) loves beef jerky.
>Excuse me but
>how can you say this?
>It's like gold?
>What the hell are you talking about?
>Is this some kind of attemption that let the US export their beef more
>to Japan or something?

At the local warehouse clubs we can get 12 oz. of beef jerky for $5.99.
That calculates out to 340.2 grams for about Y724.  That's about Y213/100g.
That's dried beef jerky without the package weight.  Compare that to the
price of beef jerky in Japan.  This has nothing to do with beef.  Beef
jerky is dried, processed beef.  Trade barriers are not a factor here
because these are gift suggestions, not export commodities.  I don't know
anything about the trade barriers that Japan imposes on beef imports and
I really don't care much about them.

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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Buddhist Sects
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:06:12 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

I know there is a Nichiren sect in Oakland, CA.  Their target audience is
blue-collar workers, so in fact when I inquired into their religion the
guy kept stressing the fact that "it is a religion for laymen" and was 
unenthusiastic to go further.  Other Soka Gakkai sects throughout 
Northern California target yuppies or puppies (poor urban professionals),
Americanized to one extent to another.  Nowadays, there are interfaith
Buddhist congregations in San Jose to seve the needs of a composite audience
whether they're hinayana, Llamaist, Mahayanist, or whatever else.  Seicho
no Ie also has a temple in San Jose, catering to older 1st-generation
immigrants.

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:56:56 -0400 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Now this a nice one!
	<i*#@byu.edu>
	<4er2BJG00UzxE1L_E8@andrew.cmu.edu>

Friends, 

            THIS IS A NICE ONE! FROM THE KOREANS, SOUTH AT THAT.



From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: western culture suck shit!!
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:28:24 GMT
 
In article <Oct09.225605.98314@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.LANCE.Co
loState.Edu (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
>	THAT'S WHAT DENNY WONG WROTE.  HEY , IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DON'T
>KNOW YOUR HISTORY!
 
If he is the grand master tong, then he does not know his history.  He grew
up somewhere else.
 
>EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET IS GUILTY OF SOME
>SORT OF RACISM, ESPECIALLY KOREA.  IN KOREA, JAPANESE PEOPLE   ARE  HATED
>IN  SOME PLACES.  THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
 
If such prejudice comes from ignorance, that's ridiculous indeed.  If it
comes from exprience, it is not very ridiculous.  Would you think Rodney
King is ridiculous if he has some feelings about LADP?
 
>  WE CAN'T GO ON LIVING  WITH  THE  PAST
>IF  WE ARE  EVER  GOING TO HAVE PEACE  IN THIS WORLD!
 
That' what the court in CA tried, and there was a riot.
 
>this place is so bad, try going back to Korea , I assume you're Korean, as
>a Korean-American.
 
Actually, he is not.  There are many last names that are common to both
Chinese and Korean such as Han, Lee, Chang, etc.  Wong is not one of them.
There is Wang but not Wong.
 
>But Korea can be just as bad as the U.S., try being a black person in Korea
>someday.  Although I'm not black, I've seen the prejudice with my own eyes.
 
Agreed.
 
James Choi
 



                 LET GO TO A FAR AWAY PLACE AND SEE HOW THESE PEOPLE THINK!