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From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: 256 color for trident 1Mb.
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:56:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Saint Mary's University

Date: 13 Oct 92 16:35:44 GMT
Message-Id: <GJAMES.154@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have finally gotten XWindows to work on my 386/40 and am running x 
sessions on a sun workstation. I would like to run Sun Net Manager on my pc 
but it needs a 256 color display.



I need a 256 color driver (800x600 preferably) for my 1 mb trident VGA card. 


Thanks
From: elf@ee.ryerson.ca (luis fernandes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Creating 35mm slides from screen dumps
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:08:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto

Date: 13 Oct 92 16:58:07 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.165807.8951@ee.ryerson.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.hp

alpa@tsunami.mbari.org (Patrick Allen) writes:
>A number of people here at the Institute have expressed a strong desire to be
>able to create 35mm color slides from screen images. 
[...]

The following worked well for us, your mileage may vary:

    - room is completely dark
    - camera: 35mm F.3.5, 28mm wide-angle lens, tripod mounted,
        cable release preferable
    - 1 or 2 second exposure
    - 64 ASA Japan Camera 1 hour processing slide film
    - Ensure that the screen "background" is dark so the light comes from
        the subject-not the background screen, i.e. set the
        background to black ("xsetroot -solid black")

--
luis fernandes  <elf@ee.ryerson.ca>
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for X on IBM-PC (ya, i've been thru' FAQ!)
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:34:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Saint Mary's University

Date: 15 Oct 92 17:02:19 GMT
Message-Id: <GJAMES.160@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <izeek.719077132@techunix.technion.ac.il> izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic) writes:

>mece25q@elroy.uh.edu (Pakala, Rama R.) writes:

>>I have gone thru' the FAQ list of X servers for IBM-PCs.  I would like to
>>hear from netters about their experiences with X servers on IBM-486s. Especially
>>the problems you have had, if any.
>>That would help me greatly in choosing  from the list.
>>Thanks.
>>Rama Pakala.
>>mece25q@jetson.uh.edu

>I think DESQview/X is definitely the winner these days.  
>I believe it's the only full X Window system while all the rest
>are just X servers for the PC.  I saw the demo in UNIX Expo last
>October and was really impressed.  I own a copy of the last 
>version of X11/AT and I sincerely recommend against it. 
>One more thing: Like almost all other heavy applications, you'll 
>enjoy it only if you run on a high-end 386/486 PC.

>Ilan Aisic
>           In Israel                            In the USA:
>Voice:   972-4-344474                         1-914-644-7710
>Fax:     972-4-342492                         1-914-644-7763
>E-mail:  izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il        ilan@allink.com


Sure its great if you only want to run in 800x600 in 16 colors. Try running 
sun net manager and see what happens.
From: lefortp@dxcern.cern.ch (Pierre LEFORT)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help on  X property
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:34:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: CERN

Date: 13 Oct 92 09:14:21 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.091421.11445@dxcern.cern.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi everybody,

I have an application with many processes running on different displays and
using X property to communicate.
My application was working fine until one or two weeks ago when I realised
that my process reading the property was growing. 

For testing, I do a malloc just before the
XGetWindowProperty with the same size of the property and I get an address, 
then I free it, and the XGetWindowProperty call returns a different address.
What is strange, is that my program works fine for a while, and then it begins
to grow each time it calls XGetWindowProperty.

A previous version of my application that I recompiled and which uses the
same mechanism works fine.

Have anybody had this problem before ?

I am using an HP730 running HP-UX 8.05 and X11R4 (and Motif 1.1)

Thank you,

            Pierre LEFORT (lefortp@dxcern.cern.ch)
From: achan@idaho.tdd.sj.nec.com (Amy Chan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Problems with switching CapsLock/Control
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:23:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

Date: 7 Oct 92 00:01:54 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.000154.8303@sj.nec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <ucosmo.718409196@mcl> ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) writes:
>I am trying to switch Caps Lock and Control on my Sun4 keyboard with this
>.xmodmaprc:
>
>	remove lock = Caps_Lock
>	remove control = Control_L
>	add lock = Control_L
>	add control = Caps_Lock
>
>After executing this script, the Caps Lock works fine as the Control key.  When
>I hit control, though, a weird thing happens.  The Caps Lock light comes on,
>but the characters I type are in lower case!  Can anyone help me with this?
>

The following script (from xmodmap man page) works fine on my Sun4 keyboard:

remove Lock = Caps_Lock
remove Control = Control_L
keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock
keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
add Lock = Caps_Lock
add Control = Control_L


Amy
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From: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: MIT X11 under OpenWindows 3.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:01:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:22:26 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct10.002226.16854@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,ba.windows.x,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.openlook


Usenetters,

I have a requirement for two X11 files:

/usr/local/lib/X11/libX11.a
/usr/include/X11/X.h


I need them to compile free "SUIT" software (a GUI front-end),
which requires these two X11 files.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET THEM?  (I do have FTP access).



I have SunOS 4.1.2 with OpenWindows 3.0 which has its own
implementation of X.  I cannot find the associated X11 files
in OpenWindows 3.0.

There is no '/usr/openwin/lib/libX11.a' nor is there a
'/usr/include/X11/X.h'.  Under /usr/openwin/lib', there are 
the following files:
libX11.sa
libX11.sa.4.3
libX11.so
libX11.so.4.3        

There is no 'X.h' anywhere on the system.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

I will post the results if there is any interest.

Steve Davidson
steved@cfcl.com
From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Wanted: application builder like sun's guide
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:40:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Guido's home 486 box

Date: 13 Oct 92 21:01:26 GMT
Message-Id: <3966@wzv.win.tue.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for an application builder like Sun's guide. Is there such
a beast available? Please give response by email, because I dont get
this newsgroup here, I can only post to it. I'll post a full report on
the responses asap.

-Guido
From: hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu (Doug Hellmann)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: best way to get a oneof effect
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:42:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science

Date:  9 Oct 92 20:04:42 GMT
Message-Id: <hellmann.718661082@sycamore.cs.scarolina.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x

chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com (Chris Whitley) writes:

>I want to create a form with, say, a dozen questions.
>If the answer to number 3, is yes, then I want questions
>4-7 to be so.  If the answer to number 3 is no, then I
>want only 2 questions, possibly different questions than
>the yes scenario.  I call this a 'oneof' situation.  I
>want one of two screen subregions to appear based upon
>dynamic state information.  I want this swap to occur 
>while the screen is visible.  Ideally, I'd define one
>manager widget (say an XmRowColumn) for each screen, and show
>one on yes, and one on no.  How would you do this???
>Any help much appreciated!!

There are a couple of ways to do this.  One would be to have all of the
questions present all of the time, but only have the ones you want answered
set sensitive.  Another would be to only manage a certain set of widgets based
on the answers to the previous questions.  This would have the effect you
describe, in that only some of the widgets are visible, but it might confuse
the user to start changing the layout of the screen while they are answering
your questions.  The first way would be less confusing visually to the user,
but if you have too many questions on the screen you might run into trouble.

Doug Hellmann
University of South Carolina
hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu
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From: stssram@st.unocal.COM (Bob Myers)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: MIT X11R5 problem with SUID & SGID
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:58:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Unocal Science and Technology Division

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:37:46 GMT
Message-Id: <STSSRAM.92Oct8143313@st.unocal.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.questions

In article <1992Oct6.200839.19337@nmt.edu> kelly@nmt.edu (kelly) writes:

kelly> My next beef has to do with the `install' target and SUN-DES-1
kelly> authorization.  The mit `install' target installs xterm as set-uid
kelly> root, so it can update the /etc/utmp file.

kelly> However, a program that runs set-uid root uses root's key on the local
kelly> machine rather your key, rendering SUN-DES-1 authorization only useful
kelly> for useless clients like xclock, xman, ... .  You can't run xterms.

kelly> The fix: install xterm as set-gid tty, not set-uid root, and make sure
kelly> /etc/utmp is group-writable by group tty.  Then, an xterm runs with
kelly> your user ID, so it uses your key for SUN-DES-1, and you've got the
kelly> protection you were after.

Hmmm.  This doesn't do everything the suid bit did, though.  A suid root
xterm will change the ownership of the tty to the appropriate user, preventing
other users from reading/writing there, etc.  Your "fix" won't be able to do
this.

Maybe the way this should work is to use the SUN-DES-1 key for the real
uid, not the key for the effective uid.  This is really a SUN-DES-1/suid
problem, not an install problem.

--
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Internet: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com      Seismic Research and Applications
Phone: [714] 693-6951                  P. O. Box 68076
                                       Anaheim, California 92817-8076
From: bozoki@kuka.mmt.bme.hu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How can I use the text widgets?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:35:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 18:39:30 EDT
Reply-To: <bozoki@mmt.bme.hu>
X-Mx-Warning:   Warning -- Invalid "To" header.
Message-Id: <00961CC1.74169020.15667@kuka.mmt.bme.hu>
X-Charset: US
X-Char-Esc: 0



I would be glad if somebody send me a simple example of using X11R5
Athena text widget.

Thanks!

Jeno

---------------
Jeno Bozoki
Technical University of Budapest
e-mail:bozoki@mmt.bme.hu
From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Windows with MS-Windows 3.1
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:06:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney

Date: 16 Oct 92 04:10:35 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct16.041035.18402@fawlty.towers.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am after an X Windows prototyping development environment to run
alongside MS-Windows on a 486.
Given that MS-Windows 3.1 is not multi-tasking, is it possible to
run any form of Xlib (and Xt?) that directly links with the "server" in
some form to achieve this?

I have the list of available X-Servers for MS-windows and others posted
to this group (which is excellent), but none imply this is possible - is
it at least technically possible?

The alternatives I have come up with include: 
- Run OS/2 and IBMs X-Server (since OS/2 is multi-tasking, I should
be able to run the server on the same machine).
- Run some form of UNIX, and XFree86 (I will then probably also need
to buy a tape drive to install/backup).
- Run X for DESQview with the server and the client programs on the
same machine.
- Wait for NT's official release and hope I get X support somehow.

None of these are particularly attractive to me, but I would probably
go with OS/2 if there is no alternative under MS-Windows which would
enable me to develop and test X-Windows applications.

Any help would be appreciated [please E-mail this group gets a lot of
traffic].

John MacLean.
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From: john@azulita.cactus.org (John R. Miller)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: spell-buffer spins under X on rt
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:07:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fulcrum Software

Date: 16 Oct 92 01:20:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct16.012038.19895@azulita.cactus.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt,comp.windows.x,gnu.emacs.help

[ob-apology-if-double-post: I seem to be having trouble getting
outgoing news to work lately.]

Has anyone else seen this problem?  When I run spell-buffer, emacs
(version 18.55.19) quickly fires up six copies of spell which never
complete.  I have to send SIGKILL to get them to stop.  I'm running
AOS (fairly straightforward 4.3 BSD) on an IBM/RT.  I also use bash
(version 1.12) but that doesn't seem to matter.  The same thing
happens if I use sh for everything.

The only thing that matters is whether I'm running X (X11r4).
Everything works fine when I'm not under X.

I don't mind not being able to use spell.  The problem is that the
same thing happens (or something very similar) when I run
gnus-post-news.  Only one copy of inews gets created, but it spins
forever.  (I have gnus version 3.14.1.)

I believe the elisp code in each case is getting to
call-process-region and something bad is happening there, but if I
invoke call-process-region by hand it (apparently) works fine.

Any ideas?
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From: richm@netcom.com (Richard Mauri)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why NT will win (was Re: X Under Windows NT)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:18:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: 16 Oct 92 15:06:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct16.150618.25501@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

In article <1992Oct12.134659.18@sycraft.com> ken@sycraft.com (Ken Richardson) writes:
>In article <Bw02qs.831@fulcrum.bt.co.uk>, rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>> I don't see that NT is going to be any better than Unix, since it aims to
>> fulfill exactly the same niche, and it's got 15 years to catch up on.
>> However, Microsoft will have learnt from Unix's mistakes, and will also
>> have a customer base who are virtually on their knees and begging.
>
>In addition to learning from Unix's mistakes, and in addition to the
>considerable installed base of DOS (and especially MS-Windows) users, some of
>the other advantages of NT will be:
>
>    -	Learned from VMS's mistakes (from all appearances, NT is Dave Cutler's
>	new, improved VMS)
>    -	Multiple operating environments, e.g. DOS, Windows, Posix, OS/2
>    -	Multiple file systems
>    -	Multiple protected subsystems in general
>
>Technical advantages aside, the fact that NT is *the* upgrade path for
>MS-Windows is quite enough to make it a brilliant success.  No flames from
>OS/2 advocates, please.
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ken Richardson  | SyCraft Software | When wealth is lost, nothing is lost;
> ken@sycraft.com | Colorado Springs | when health is lost, something is lost;
>                 | CO, USA          | when character is lost, all is lost.
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I don't mean this to sound like a flame, but I keep reading this thread hoping
that there will be some discussion about running client side X under NT, but
all I seem to read about is NT vs UNIX? I am interested, and I'm sure others
are as well, in what are the problems getting X to work with NT> I don't think
NT spells the death of X, on the contrary!

Rich Mauri

-- 
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From: vlee@csws16.ic.sunysb.edu (Violet Lee)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Sharing read/write colorcells
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:53:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Date: 9 Oct 92 20:30:05 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct9.203005.25205@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

The RGB values of the r/w color cells allocated by a X client can be
changed by other clients.  A simple test program can verify.

--
Ivan Leung (ivanl@fdc.com)
From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Resolutions greater than 1024x768?
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:12:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T

Date: 13 Oct 92 00:59:57 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.005957.4254@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1bd62oINNfic@uwm.edu> jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu (James Jegers) writes:
>    I was wondering if there are any driver for video boards for
>    the i386 that are greater than 1024x768.
> 
>    In particular I am looking for the Xconfig file for an
> 
>    Orchid Fahenheight 1280 (1meg) video card with a NEC 5FG monitor.
> 
>    My problem is the XFree86 only see's 512k of memory on the card,
>    even when there is more, and the jumpers are set to use it.
>    I'm also having some problems getting the lower resolutions to work.
> 
> -- 
>      ______________________________________________________________
>     /\               University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee          \
>     \_| Computing Services Division     Computer Science Department |
>       |   jimj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu           jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu    |

There's a real good reason why it's not working.  XFree86 doesn't
support the S3 chipset on the F1280.  The fact that you get any
response at all is quite surprising.  There are some people working
on adding S3 support to XFree86; whether that support is contributed
back to the official product is up to them.  We are not working on
it.

BTW - the correct mechanism for asking questions about XFree86 is
to send mail to <xfree86@physics.su.oz.au>, or at least ask in an
OS-specific newsgroup.  There is currently an active RFD for a 
new newsgroup for X-on-Intel-based-Unix; the vote is still a couple
of weeks away.

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From: toby@cs.man.ac.uk (Toby Howard)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Motif tutorial
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:31:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

Date: 13 Oct 92 09:38:25 GMT
Message-Id: <TOBY.92Oct13103825@r3h.cs.man.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x,uk.events,comp.graphics


Tutorial: "INTRODUCTION TO MOTIF"

  John Wexler and Bob McGonigle
  Wednesday 28 October 1992, at the University of York.

This tutorial is a technical course, based on courseware developed at the
Computing Services of the University of Edinburgh, in conjunction with IXI
Ltd of Cambridge.  The tutorial is aimed at people who will program or port
applications to use Motif and X, or people who need to know how to do that
even if they will not be doing it themselves.  The prerequisites for the
course are familiarity with Unix, C programming and user experience of a
WIMP interface.

The tutorial will introduce the basic Motif concepts, and will describe the
details of callbacks and resources.  Basic widgets, such as MainWindow and
ScrolledList, and the use of PulldownMenus, will be covered.  A guide to
using the Motif documentation will also be given.  A practical to
illustrate these basic concepts will be run.  This is the first of two
Motif tutorials in the Eurographics programme. The second tutorial, BEYOND
THE MOTIF BASICS, will be held in early 1993, and will continue from the
first, covering further widgets, and mechanisms such as actions and
translations.

JOHN WEXLER works at the Edinburgh Regional Computing Centre. His special
interests are operating systems, concurrent systems, and software
engineering.  His is the author of "Concurrent Programming in occam 2".

******** HURRY! PLACES ARE STRICTLY LIMITED! BOOK YOUR PLACE NOW! ********

The fee for each tutorial is 75 pounds for EUROGRAPHICS members, and 95
pounds for non-members. This fee includes lunch, refreshments and tutorial
notes. To make your booking please contact:

   Roy Platon
   Central Computing Division
   Atlas Centre
   Rutherford Appleton Lab
   Chilton
   Didcot
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   Tel:  0(+44)235 445764         Fax:  0(+44)235 445808
   Email:  rtp@uk.ac.rl.ib   or   tutorial@uk.co.eg-uk
   
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From: davet@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Dave Thompson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 for DEC5000 PX
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:58:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Date: 8 Oct 92 16:43:15 GMT
Message-Id: <BvtAGB.GvH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I've been attempting to get an X11R5 server running on my DECstation 5000/125.
The mit distrubtion claims that it supports the MX and CX displays for
the 5000.  Unfortunately, I have a PX display.  When I run the
X server, I get a "no screens found" error message and the X server terminates.
Is there a port to the PX display?  I see that last week the same
question was asked for the HX display...

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks,
Dave Thompson

National Center for Supercomputing Applications |  605 E Springfield Ave
University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign      |  Champaign IL 61820
Email:  davet@ncsa.uiuc.edu                     |  (217) 244-1957