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From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Picnic at Hanging Rock
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:54:22 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Jul21.152335.22867@cs.nott.ac.uk> cczcolin@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Colin Emerson) writes:
>raj@keyword.com (Raj N. (keyword)) writes:
>
>>I recently saw this 1975 movie by Peter Weir. I welcome comments from anyone
>>who have seen this movie and understood it.
>
>"Picnic at Hanging Rock" was based on an eerie incident in Australia at the
>turn of the century. From what I can remember the film makes no attempt to
>solve the mystery it just presents the known facts. What happened to the missing
>two girls and their teacher is still a mystery to this day. I did read a book
>some years ago about the incident and remember that the girl who was found, but
>remembered little about the climb, later died at quite a young age without ever
>remembering anything more.


It's a long time since I've seen the film, but if I remember the film
rightly there was some underlying symbolic significance. Namely that
that young school girls were affected in some way by the "Phallic Power"
of the rock.

Hope that helps. Someone else might be able to expand on this better.
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mia Sara
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:29:00 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu  writes:
> ST402420@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
> 
> >Just read that Mia Sara is acting in `A Stranger Among Us'. Saw her, for the
> >first time, in `Queenie' a few weeks ago; in which she was excellent. Does
> >anyone have any background/other movies, etc.?
> 
> >Sammy Samos.
> 
> She also appeared as Ferris Bueller's girlfriend in _Ferris Bueller's Day
> Off_ and played Merle Oberon in an ABC miniseries based on her life.
> 

She was Lily (sp?) in Ridley Scott's Legend too.  It's good to
hear she's still working.  I'd been wondering what's happened
to her.
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: anyone know...
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:08:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.182900.63605@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ms0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Michiyo Shinoda) writes:
>Just curious...
>
>Does anyone know what actor Michael Biehn (did I spell that right?)'s been
>up to lately?
>
>may

He was in _K2_ which came and went a few months ago.  I'm not sure what
his current projects are.



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From: cathe@xanadu.ucsb.edu (Cathe Gordon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Great Brain
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:41:15 GMT

Several years ago, I remember hearing that the children's
book series "The Great Brain" would be made into a movie.
Anyone know anything about it?
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From: cjaeger@bogart.uucp (Cecilia Jaeger)
Subject: Re: Cool World
Organization: ism:c:m/xo
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:05:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul13.183553.3607@scott.skidmore.edu> dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter) writes:
>The only thing I remember liking about the movie is the telephone
>personified and running around trying to find the detective. :>
>
>Lame movie ... lame plotline and sad commentary on what moviegoers
>will pay money to go see.
>
>PG 13-I think NOT!   Do not take your kids to see this!  Do not take
>anyone to see this..
>
>---YUK---

I think it is boring for kids. I watched a young girl (appr. 11) and father
leave during the film. The three younger girls were very bored during the
whole movie. And I lot of the innuendos are little too much for a kid to 
understand.

	Don't waste your money on this movie. Rent it if you must see it.
But don't pay full price.

				Ceci
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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: American cinema (was Re: RASPUTIN)
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:11:52 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes...

> Why don't add--
>
> "much of the film is gratuitous violence and sex, poorly written at that,
> as American films often are"  :) :) :) 

   Actually I agree with the above statement much more than the original
about Russian films being static and slow. I don't mind the first 2
attributes, but the "poorly written" one is a real pain, and is VERY
true of American cinema over the last few years. I have often asked
myself how the American film industry has gotten away with it for so
long, and I answer myself with the following 2 statements:

1) A massive market of morons is sitting there waiting to lick it all
up. Please don't flame
me for this, it is the posting of several Americans on this very Net
that leads me to believe this!!

2) In America, the marketing people are much more talented than the bulk
of the film makers. Proof? Ladies and gentlemen, I present for your
delight..."Batman Returns". The biggest piece of shit in tinsel wrapping
I have ever had the displeasure of encountering.

   You may argue that I will have seen more American films than any
other nation's, and that is true. But I do see a lot of foreign films
too (about 1 subtitled film per 2 English language film) and I must say
the America "crud ratio" is higher by far than any other country. Note
that that was ratio, and has nothing to do with volume.

   And the most annoying thing I heard this week? There is going to be a
US remake of "The Vanishing". What a stupid idea. This film is
excellent, IMHO, an absolute must-see, yet - no, subtitles doom it to
under-exposure in America. Pathetic. I will bet whichever of my
back-teeth takes your fancy that the US version is tragically inferior
to the original. They'll be remaking "Delicatessen" next!!

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From: malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Worst Movies (Beetle-Juice ?? I enjoyed it)
Keywords: Movies, Worst
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:53:37 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Jul30.140902.5132@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
>Michael Keaton's performance was terrible, but I blame Burton for that
>since it was the exact same performance he managed to get out of Jack
>Nicholson for Batman. The character was not only obnoxious and
>repellent, it wasn't even remotely funny. The ending was unconvincing,
>even for a "cartoon", and was still depressing. No, this wasn't black
>comedy. You want black comedy, try _Barton Fink_ or _Brazil_. You want
>sloppy self-indulgent filmmaking, try anything by Tim Burton.
>

Whatever gave you the idea that "BeetleJuice" was supposed to be
a black comedy ? If that was what you were looking in this film,
you will obviously be disappointed. I found just the concept of this guy
"BeetleJuice" very funny and amusing. For what the role demanded, 
both Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson have done great jobs in 
"beetlejuice" and "Batman" respectively. In "Batman", the joker's
character is supposed to be nasty and obnoxious, and I just don't
see anybody in Hollywood doing a better job of acting as joker than
Jack Nicholson did.   
              

Manish
From: PNCSPPC@CCVAX1.CC.NCSU.EDU (Phil Calvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: COOL WORLD is uncool
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:16:41 GMT

I just saw this movie last night and I feel compelled to post this warning.
This is a pretty poor movie.  There were five people in our group and all of
us felt that it was a waste of our time and money.  It might be entertaining
to teenagers because the cartoon characters' preoccupation with sex and the
gratuitous use of foul language (in a feeble attempt to be humorous).
However, I think most mature adults will be disappointed.

Phil Calvert
 
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:46:01 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <711723808@majors7.cs.duke.edu>, by kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone):
> ven in the
> midst of nukular combat toe-to-toe with the Rooskies, they're still spying!

The point is that, at the moment there is a glimmer of hope, the
rivalries come up *again*.  "Mr President, we cannot allow a mineshaft
gap!"
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: dr. strangelove (amba
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:14:22 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

DB>the ambassador in turn accuses Turgidson of "This stupid fool was trying
DB>to plant this rediculous fake camera on me!" which it seems Turgidson
DB>was--and then the ambassador ends up taking pictures anyway!

     It seems more likely that the Soviet Ambassador (I believe the
     President calls him "Alexei" at one point) was indeed carrying
     the spy camera in the cigarette case - unless Turgidson was so
     paranoid that he carried a spy camera on himself all the time,
     to plant on "Commies" in order to accuse them of being spies.

     And on the other hand, it was quite possible that yes, Turgidson
     WAS that paranoid.  Or perhaps it was his *own* spy camera, used
     for whenever he took trips to other nations, so that he could
     snoop in places where he wasn't supposed to snoop.

     Of course, the whole point of that scene was to show us that we
     can't tell WHO was telling the truth.  It's yet another example
     of how ridiculous foreign policy was at that time - and today it's
     even worse, if that's possible.

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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:22:24 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Jul25.052730.19570@athena.mit.edu>, by wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley):
>  I thought the [Terminator]
> soundtrack was pretty good, and pretty effective.  I really didn't
> care for the soundtrack to Terminator 2 at all.

I agree on that.
 
> At least four of the movies I mentioned would be in my Top N (for some
> value of N that I am not certain of, maybe 25) film list.

Personally, I've solved this problem by always referring to my
personal top 10, but mentioning that there are about 30 films on this
top 10 list. :-)
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Subject: Re: Help wanted: Basic Instinct
From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:31:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1992Jul22.211657.3149@otago.ac.nz> garks@otago.ac.nz writes:

>Any help will be most appreciated and I apologise if the movie has been
>discussed previously but the world can take from months to years to reach our
>shores.

Hey ease up - we're not that far behind, Basic Instinct hasn't been out that
long!! We're doing a lot better than we were a couple of years back.
Sorry I can't help you out with your queries but I haven't seen it yet -
this weekend perhaps...

>Alistair Hay

Cheers, Matt.

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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: Worst Movies (Beetle-Juice ?? I enjoyed it)
Keywords: Movies, Worst
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:09:02 GMT

malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra) writes:

<In article <1992Jul15.032131.1590@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> swalker@uts.EDU.AU (S Walker) writes:
<>I thought that 
<>  Hudson Hawk
<>& BeetleJuice
<>should go down in the annals of worst movies ever made

<I am surprised about "Beetle Juice". I thought it was a well-made
<horror-comedy and Michael Keaton is really good in this.
<I found it to be very funny, but then I have found horror-comedies
<to be very amusing !
<I would really like to know how others feel about this film.

I agree with the original poster. Beetlejuice is one of the worst
movies I've ever seen. I had high hopes for this, based on word of
mouth, as I did for Batman, both by Tim Burton. After seeing Batman, I
came the realization that Tim Burton is the worst modern film director
since Steven Spielberg - flame me, I don't care.

Reasons for despising Beetlejuice? For a "comedy" it was hopelessly
depressing within the first 15 minutes and it never rose above a
feeling of dread and despair, which I'm sure Burton did not intend. I'm
sure he thought he was doing "black comedy", or at least his notion of
it, but it completely missed the mark.

The plot made no sense! I know it's supposed to be a cartoon, but even
wacky Warner Bros cartoons had a certain interior logic that guided the
action. Beetlejuice deviated from the basic premise *for absolutely no
reason whatsoever* in order to present bizarre special effects and
makeup.  The scene where (and I don't think this qualifies as a
spoiler) the dinner party was dancing to the Banana Boat Song,
supposedly completely against their will (now HOW was this managed?),
is a perfect example of Burton's sloppy approach.

Michael Keaton's performance was terrible, but I blame Burton for that
since it was the exact same performance he managed to get out of Jack
Nicholson for Batman. The character was not only obnoxious and
repellent, it wasn't even remotely funny. The ending was unconvincing,
even for a "cartoon", and was still depressing. No, this wasn't black
comedy. You want black comedy, try _Barton Fink_ or _Brazil_. You want
sloppy self-indulgent filmmaking, try anything by Tim Burton.

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From: rm34@quads.uchicago.edu (Robert James Mohammed Monk)
Subject: Re: Feminist Perspective of Batman Returns
Keywords: Batman, feminist, SPOILERS
Reply-To: rm34@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Media Maven
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:23:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.205644.27563@afterlife.ncsc.mil> csculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Candace S. Culhane) writes:
>I have enjoyed this particular thread of BATMAN RETURNS more than some of
>the other BR threads.  But unless I've counted wrong, a (large) majority 
>of the people posting to this "Feminist Perspective" of BR
>have been men.  Where are the 'feminists' who are giving us their
>perspective, may I ask?

We are all over the thread.  A good number of us just happen to be men.

>[By the way, I'm not going to give
>a 'feminist perspective' myself because a) I don't want to analyze the
>movie that much, and b) I don't consider myself a 'feminist', whatever
>that title actually describes these days.]  

'Feminist' means the same thing it always has-- a person who believes that an
adult woman is a full-fledged human being, with the same potential, entitled to
the same rights, and bearing the same responsibilities as any other adult 
human being (ie, man).  This reluctance of people to refer to themselves as 
feminists is an unfortunate effect of a very effective campaign on the part of
ANTI-feminists to stereotype feminists as man-hating, castrating bitches. 
Anyone who believes that a woman is a complete person is a feminist, and should
call his- or herself one.  I'm a feminist.  I'm also a man AND a hunka hunka
burning love.  It makes life interesting ;-) .

By the way, I liked _Batman Returns_ a lot more than _Batman_.  So there :-) .

Brother Robert
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:02:36 GMT

In article <geQ3f2e00VpN0=tlB_@andrew.cmu.edu>, lb2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Blair) writes:
>
> This is a variation on the question for the first movie:  Why
> didn't Skynet put a phased plasma rifle inside a kangaroo
> and send it back for Arnold to use?  Numerous answers

Jeez, Louis!  Obviously, it would jump around too much and 
destabilize the plasma ejection modulator coils!  I'm
surprised at you!

> crumbling, Skynet may have been in too much of a
> hurry to bother with this.  Perhaps Skynet had a

Skynet has a habit of waiting til the last minute,
and THAT'S why it had to invent this time-travel junk
as a way of not having to plan ahead.  Just irresponsible.

GMS
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Woody Allen Film
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:29:04 -0600

LW>Every time I see Love and Death, I forget about the scene where I they try
LW>to kill Napoleon.  I've seen it many times, and it still makes me laugh
LW>(a lot).

My favorite bit is the scene is when the Napolean impersonator is
introduced.  When the two Napoleans go off to the background to practice
Napolean's walk they start fighting.

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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: george miller
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:09:34 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: rec
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


in article <1992Jul27.160619.11040@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes of the producer of Dead Calm:

>It was the good doctor, as opposed to the mediocre horse-lover.

Peter, what makes you an expert on Miller's skills as a
lover of horses?  Have you asked the horses?
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From: csc32.enet.dec.com!k_workman@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:17:00 GMT
Organization: DEC
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


In article <1992Jul22.152315.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 
rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes...
> [ Stuff deleted ....] 
>B. Who am I this time" is about a small town theater group who puts on a
>different show every summer. Walken played a VERY shy man who was recruited 
to
>play the lead in A Streetcar Named Desire. Once into the role he becomes
>transformed into the part, almost becoming Brando. when he leaves the role 
he
>reverts to his shy "clark kent" personna. There's also a sweet love story in
>there...  Worth looking for.
> 
>rlwilliams

Where can one obtain a video of this movie?  I understand it was made for
TV?  I'm having problems at our local video rental stores in Colorado
trying to find some of the older movies like Brainstorm.  Blockbuster says
they don't carry it anymore.  Is there a video club or some such thing
one can join (like through mail order) that has these movies for sale/rent?

-kw
From: andrew.cmu.edu!pc20+@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woman in For Your Eyes Only
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:51:00 GMT
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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X-Spam-content: irrelevant

I don't think Carole Bouquet has done many movies.  To my knowledge she
has been _the_ spokeswoman for Chanel since at least '86 or so,
therefore you can find her in numerous Chanel No. 5 ads and commercials.
 Other than that, not much...


     
     peech

Peter Chang
Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
<pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Subject: Paris, Texas
From: chris@dranet.dra.com
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:25:07 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO


I recently saw "Paris, Texas" and thought it was a great film.

I especially liked the part with the 2-way mirror. I thought
it was very poignant.

Any opinions?

Anyone know how the critics rated this movie?


Chris Yunker
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: American Cultural Imperialism? (was: the vanishing)
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:16:40 GMT
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>  However, I believe that the real reason
>American films, to varying extents, drive other nations' films out of
>the theaters even in their own countries is that American films are
>calculated to appeal to the common filmgoer, not just in the U.S., but
>across the world.  Many films from other nations are not meant for that
>audience, or, if they are, are technically or artistically inferior to
>the American ones.

Another reason is that Hollywood attracts actors and directors in this
genre from all over the world. Hollywood can, with is capital, offer 
budgets many classes above those in other countries. A Danish movie
with a budget of 2 million dollars is regarded as an expensive movie -
in Hollywood it would be a joke. It is very hard to compete with such
a financial difference and many then follows the saying "if you can't
beat them - join them". The discussion of why Hollywood has reached
this position is another matter.

> There's a reason many French
>films achieve popularity outside France - they make some very funny
>comedies, and, once in a while, a high quality thriller.  

There was made a lot of really good crime movies by the french in the
sixties and seventies inspired by Jean-Pierre Melville. To bad that
they aren't seen more here in Europe.
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