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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:34:54 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Tuesday's News

>
* Wayne Ferreira and MaliVai Washington were added to
  the draw for the ATP tournament Aug 10-16 at Mason,
  Ohio.
>

Will Olympic tennis competition be over by then? I know Ferreira is
competing and won his first round match.........

--Vernon.
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From: huseby@saturn.nr.no (Ragnar Bang Huseby)
Subject: Re: Wimbledon Trivia Question
Organization: /nr/pluto/u3/huseby/.organization
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:26:05 GMT

Borg and Curren have defeated both Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe at Wimbledon.
Not sure about the third.
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From: mhytti@cs.joensuu.fi (Mika Hyttinen)
Subject: Re: 1992 Olympics Tennis Draw, Women's Singles
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:09:22 GMT

shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung) writes:

>Predictions? 

I think Graf is winner, but hope Maleeva-Fragniere (sp?) has good Games.

Seles will NOT win any medal. :-)

Unfortunately :-)

>-- Shun Cheung,  

Mika
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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: question (serve - power)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:40:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul26.135657.23698@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> colric@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Colin Richards) writes:
>
>Of course while it is still possible for a short player to serve as
>hard as a taller player, the taller player will normally be bigger
>and stronger which is an obvious advantage when serving hard.
>
>Even given that a short player can generate as much power as a taller
>player simple geometry tells you that the shorter player has less 
>margin for error.  So a taller player will be able to serve hard (into
>the service box) more consistently than a shorter player.


Also, wouldn't a taller player's serve be harder to handle than a
shorter one's, given the angle (height) from which the former is
able to serve? I.e., wouldn't such a player be more likely to make
his serve kick off the bounce?       

I know, having played opponents of different heights, that I have
found this one of the most difficult things to cope with. For the
first few points in a match from a taller player whom I rarely or
never have played, I sometimes find myself misjudging the bounce.
The best tall players can also adjust the speed and spin of there
serve, without much apparent difference to the receiver until he is
about to hit it, so that it makes it very difficult to return....


Tom Marvan.
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From: jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma)
Subject: Olympics Day 5 Results
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:10:04 GMT

Sorry if these have already been posted, but I haven't seen them...

Women's Singles, First Round

P Hy (Can) d D Randriantefy (Madag) 6-2 6-1
N Provis (Aust) d K Piccolini (Ita) 6-1 6-0

Men's Singles, First Round

W Ferreira(9)(Saf) d C Van Rensburg (Saf) 7-5 6-2 2-6 6-4
G Forget(7)(Fra) d C Caratti(Ita) 6-3 6-4 6-2
M Rosset(Swi) d K Alami 6-2 4-6 2-1 retired
M Larsson(Swe) d H Skoff(Austria) 6-2 6-2 6-3


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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: whatever happened to Pernfors (was NCAA Singles Champions List)
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:26:02 GMT


Pernfors defeated McEnroe by default in the 1990 Australian Open, by a
score of 1-6, 6-4, 5-7, 4-2, default. Assuming Pernfors held serve a
couple of times to win the 4th set, it would have been an exciting 5th
set.

Pernfors is now playing team tennis for Tampa. I saw him playing doubles
with Tobias Svantesson one night on the Prime Sport Network when I was
changing channels. Kathy Rinaldi was playing singles for Tampa, and they
said that Pernfors had made a comeback to win his men's singles match
before I tuned in.

Pernfors had knee surgery in the summer of 1988, but recovered quickly
(modern arthroscopic surgery works miracles) and won his only two titles
that year in the fall, 2 weeks in a row, at Los Angeles and Scottsdale.
He had to have achilles tendon surgery in 1990, and missed a lot of time
after that.

Amazingly, the 1986 French Open was his only finals appearance umtil 1988.
He has only 4 finals in his career, losing in 1988 at Memphis before the
surgery, then winning the two titles later that year. He played L.A. again
in 1991 and had two match points against Chang but lost. He upset Wilander
at the WCT finals in Dallas in May of 1989 (during Wilander's slide downhill)
but lost to Brad Gilbert in the semis, who lost to Mac in the final. Pernfors
was ranked as high as #10 (September 22, 1986) but finished 1991 #239 after
the achilles tendon surgery of 1990.

In the 1986 French, he upset Martin Jaite, Boris Becker and Henri Leconte
before falling to Lendl in the final. After McEnroe's default in 1990 at
the Australian Open, he lost to Yannick Noah in straight sets in the
quarterfinals, who lost to Lendl in straights in the semis, who won when
Edberg had to retire in the final.

When I saw him in team tennis, he was jumping around crazily while waiting
to return serve, just as someone mentioned he used to do.

His best 1991 result was a quarterfinal loss to Korda at Tampa on clay.
Korda lost to Reneberg in the final.

His 1988 final loss at Memphis was to young Andre Agassi. He and Lundgren
lost the doubles final to David Pate/Kevin Curren. He won L.A. in 1988 by
beating Agassi, and Scottsdale over Glenn Layendecker. Pernfors/Tideman
lost the final at the 1987 Mercedes Cup in Stuttgart to Leach/Pawsat.
He won his only doubles title with Tobias Svantesson at the US Clay Court
Championships at Charleston, S.C., in 1989, over Moreno/Yzaga. A year
earlier, he was ranked #32 in July of 1988 in doubles, his highest.

When he won consecutive NCAA titles in 1984-1985, he was the first to do
so since Dennis Ralston in 1963-1964.
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: More 2nd Round Results (SPOILER)
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:32:15 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

In article <l7g9k9INN1fm@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>
>  Becker d. Aynaoui
>  Ivanisevic d. Haarhuis
>  Larsson d. Forget

Tough draw for Becker, huh?

Let's see --- he plays 2 guys who aren't in the top 200 in the first 2 rounds.
Meanwhile, Magnus Larsson and Guy Forget have to play each other in the
2nd round, Chang and Mancini (currently #7 and #34, both have been ranked
higher before, both clay court specialists) in the 1st round, Edberg has to
play Chesnokov (former top 10) in the 1st round, Ivanisevic and Haarhuis play
each other in the 2nd round, etc.  So, Boris is in the round of 16, needing
only 2 more wins to get a bronze medal, having played nobody. And he was
scheduled to play Amos Mansdorf in the round of 16, but Mansdorf withdrew
before the tournament because of injury. Ivanisevic is the only significant
obstacle to a medal for Boris, according to the posted draw.

I can see it now: Ivanisevic gets injured and forfeits, and the idiotic
BOOM BOOM postings start again.

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From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: CU Report on Racquettes
Originator: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:29:37 GMT


They tried (in their latest edition).  


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From: bose@cs.umn.edu (Ashim Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Edberg's Form ??
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:51:56 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.tennis
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <HARI.92Jul21225213@robios5.me.wisc.edu> hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari) writes:
>
>I was just thinking about Edberg's record this year and for an Edberg
>fan it is certainly a dismal showing. He's just won *1* tournament - the
>German Open ( and that too on clay!) this year and lost mid-way in
>most of the others.
>
>Unless he picks up his game a bit he's going to slide down the
>rankings in the  latter half of the year. 
>
>I wonder why he's doing so badly. He seems to have lost a *lot* of
>close matches (including the one to Goran at Wimbledon). Perhaps it is
>a lack of motivation - he's won all Grand-Slam tournaments barring the
>French ( which he almost did). He's been #1 for a fairly long length
>of time *and* he's happily married . Just hoping that he picks up his
>game  the next few months...
>
>Just hoping......
>
>- Hari
>
>K.R.Harinarayan
>
Could it be a coincidence that his slide started soon after his wedding?
I think most people who are just married have too many things on their
mind to concentrate on tennis :-)

Ashim
From: tom@ksr.com (Tom Varga)
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Subject: Re: String Tension on the Prince Vortex
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:43:00 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: palmer@uvmark.uucp's message of 30 Jul 92 02:45:46 EDT


Maximum tension is 60# which is where I set it.  It seems to play close to my
Prince Lightning set at 65#.

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From: pc_madhu@ruby.enet.dec.com (MADHU)
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Subject: Test
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:27:00 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

This a test.
From: gb@cup.portal.com (Greg A Buechler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: question
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:58:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

My highschool coach one day said somthing like you have to be about 6-2
in order to hit a serve straight down into the service court.  Now myself
being just 5-10 can see the point.  Now in regards to being able to see 
the service line my wife has the same problem.  She is 5-2 and can't see
the service line when she is standing at the baseline.  The solution is
simple, don't let it bother you!  Visualize where you are going to hit 
the ball, and concentrate on the ball.  By the way, a good jump helps
you get a better trajectory (sp?) 

gb
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: More Tennis Records
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:33:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.213103.8642@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>>In article <HUSEBY.92Jul21182416@saturn.uio.no> huseby@saturn.uio.no (Ragnar Bang Huseby) writes:
>>>>Highest Match Winning Percentage: 96.5, John McEnroe, 1984 (82-3 record)
>>>
>>>As far as I know, John McEnroe lost to Ivan Lendl at the French Open, to
>>>Vijay Amritray at Cincinnati and to Henrik Sundstrom in Davis Cup.
>>>If the record does not include Davis Cup, where was his 3rd defeat that year?
>
>   I recall Lendl and McEnroe playing a match in San Francisco one
>year.  This was at a time when McEnroe was already routinely beating
>Lendl, and was one of the few victories that Lendl had over McEnroe
>during this winning streak.  However, I don't recall which year
>this occurred.  This was the Transamerica Open, and is held 
>after the US Open sometime.   I also recall that the finals
>in the doubles also featured Lendl and McEnroe.  It was Lendl/Gomez
>vs. McEnroe/Fleming.   Sad to say, I missed the second and third
>set of the singles as I was sure that McEnroe was going to win.
>I have a feeling that this was in 1983 though.  Lendl dominated
>Mac in 1982 and Mac turned it around at the US Pro Indoors in
>Philadelphia by beating Lendl in early 1983, and did so again
>in early 1984 when Lendl's strategy was to gun both first and
>second serves.

In the 1983 TransAmerica Open, Lendl beat McEnroe in the singles, and
McEnroe and Fleming beat Lendl and Vince van Patten in the doubles.

In 1982, Lendl beat McEnroe at the WCT Finals in Dallas, the Grand Prix
Masters, and the US Open semis. Big matches, but I think they might have
been the only 3 times they met. Likewise, Mac beat Lendl in 1983 as you
mentioned, but only about 3 or 4 times, including the Wimbledon semis
and the Grand Prix Masters.
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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Olympics Mens Singles
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:36:10 GMT
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

Olympics  Men's Singles
          
First Round:
------------
 
wayne ferreira (9), south africa, def. christo van rensburg, south africa, 
	7-5, 6-2, 2-6, 6-4. 
guy forget (7), france, def. cristiano caratti, italy, 6-3, 6-4, 6-2
 
marc rosset, switzerland, def. karim alami, morocco, 6-2, 4-6, 2-1 ret. 
   
magnus larsson, sweden, def. horst skoff, austria, 6-2, 6-2, 6-3
 
boris becker (5), germany, def. christian ruud, norway,
	3-6, 7-6 (7-2), 5-7, 7-6 (7-2), 6-3. 

javier frana (14), argentina, def. pablo arraya, peru, 
	6-2, 6-0, 6-7 (3-7), 6-7 (3-7), 6-2. 
   
andrew sznajder, canada, def. benny wijaya, indonesia, 6-2, 6-4, 7-5.
 
omar camporese, italy, def. juan oscar rios, puerto rico, 6-2, 6-2, 6-0. 
   
jim courier (1), dade city, fla., def. ramesh krishnan, india, 
	6-2, 4-6, 6-1, 6-4. 
goran ivanisevic (4), croatia, def. bernardo mota, portugal, 
	6-2, 6-2, 6-7 (5-7), 4-6, 6-3. 
younes el aynaoui, morocco, def. chris wilkinson, britain, 6-4, 6-1, 7-5. 
   
emilio sanchez (12), spain, def. todd woodbridge, australia, 
	6-1, 7-6 (7-1), 6-2. 
paul haarhuis, netherlands, def. luiz roberto mattar, brazil, 
	4-6, 6-3, 6-2, 6-2. 
jakob hlasek (15), switzerland, def. francisco maciel, mexico, 
	6-3, 6-4, 4-6, 6-2. 
gilad bloom, israel, def. marian vajda, czechoslovakia, 7-6 (9-7), 6-1, 6-0. 
   
fabrice santoro, france, def. christian carlos miniussi, argentina, 
	6-1, 7-6 (7-3), 6-4. 

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From: clc5q@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Championship Series Single Week Tournaments
Originator: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:49:28 GMT


Other than grand slam events and the ATP Championships at the end of
the year, the greatest computer ranking points are given at the
tournaments that have large prize money purses (about $1,000,000)
and are the only such tournaments that week. If there is a similar
tournament that week, the ATP expects the top players to be about
evenly divided between them and fewer points are awarded. (These are
called "Championship Series, Double-Up Week" tournaments.)

The "Championship Series, Single Week" tournaments in 1992 are:

Indian Wells
Key Biscayne
Monte Carlo
German Open
Rome (Italian Open)
ATP World Team Cup (not sure about ranking points at this one)
Canadian Open
ATP Championship/Cincinatti
Australian Indoor (Sydney)
Seiko Super Tennis (Tokyo indoor)
Stockholm Open
Paris Open

Not counting the Team Cup, that makes 11 big chances for rating points besides
the four grand slam events and the ATP Championships.

The above are in chronological order.  Cincinatti starts August 10,
and Sydney starts October 5, Seiko October 12, Stockholm October 26,
and Paris November 2.

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From: buckmr@aix.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Martina and ME at Virgina Slims of Manhattan Beach
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:03:44 GMT


Hi there!

I'm in LOs Angeles till August 14th visiting my boyfriend so a friend and
I are going to go to the early rounds of the Virginia Slims of Los Angeles
tournament held in Manhattan Beach. Seles and Sanchez-Vicario were the only
expected BIG names to be there, but the LA TIMES announced Saturday that
Martina Navratilova accepted a wild-card entry to the tourney. 

Anyone else from The Net going to be there?


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From: melunney@jeeves.waterloo.edu (Mike Lunney)
Subject: Re: Toronto Draw
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:16:02 GMT

> If anyone has the draw to the Toronto tournament please post it.  Also I
> Chuck Dascalos
> --
I don't have the full draw, but here is the draw for the 3rd round
of the Player's Ltd. International in Toronto which is being played
today (Wednesday July 22).

Korda (1), Czech. vs. Reneberg (15), USA
Masur, Australia vs. Kuhnen, Germany
Lendl (3), USA vs. Youl, Australia
Stark, USA vs. McEnroe (5), USA

Washington (6), USA vs. Curren, USA
Holm, Sweden vs. Krickstein (4), USA
Mansdorf, Israel (8) vs Pridham, Canada
Rusedski, Canada vs. Agassi (2), USA

Seeds to lose in the first two rounds include:
Rostagno (7), Wheaton (9), Pozzi (11), Shelton (12), Tarango (13),
Schapers (14) and van Rensburg (16). (who is/was the 10th seed?)

Canadians to lose in the 1st round:
Martin Laurendeau, Andrew Sznajder, Sebastien Lareau

Canadians to lose in the 2nd round:
Grant Connell (to Washington), Daniel Nestor (to Agassi)
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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Players Int. 3rd Round Early Results
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:09:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul24.141023.6934@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
>
>Has anyone besides me noticed the rather subtle compliment paid to Lendl
>over the last couple of years by tennis fans and commentators? When Mac
>(or the much older Connors) can make it to the quarters or semis of a
>grand slam event, you can't hear about anything else when you turn on the
>TV every day.  The people on the weather channel are probably yelling
>about it. When Lendl makes it to the semis at the US Open last year and
>loses to Edberg, you just hear "Yeah, Lendl is having a tough time trying
>to win another title. These younger players are too much for him."
>
>You would think that Mac is as old as Connors, in a different tennis
>generation than Lendl. Mac is only 13 months older than Lendl. I think
>it is a testimony to Lendl that people don't consider it newsworthy
>when he just makes the semis of a major.


Good point. I must admit I haven't noticed this, but it is
remarkable the accolades McEnroe receives for more than moderate
success, yet Lendl, for doing the same, is seen as a failure. I
guess it may be because McEnroe did take some time off and therefore
perhaps should be commended for being able to return to competitive
form in a tough competition (something Borg hasn't been able to do).



Tom Marvan.




well, I doubt he minds too much...
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From: csr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher S. Redding)
Subject: Olympic Questions & Thoughts
Reply-To: csr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher S. Redding)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 02:26:58 GMT


	I was just wondering if there is a bronze medal for tennis, and
if so, how is it determined? I'm almost sure there is a silver medal, but
I really don't know.
	I'm not a real tennis expert. I've only been playing for 2 years
now, but I do have some predictions. I would have to say that Graf is going
to get the gold, and if there is a silver, Sanchez-Vicario will take it. 
For the men, I can't tell, but I can say that I think Becker and Courier 
(if he doesn't make the same mistake as he did at Wimbledon) will meet in
a grueling match. I also think that Stich will make it to the final and face
the winner of the Becker vs. Courier match. 
	I will not be able to watch the olympics all the time because I
go to school and work. Also, because of NBC's poor coverage of Wimbledon,
I don't think this will be any better. The Triplecast for cable is too 
expensive also. So, could someone please post some details of Olympic
Tennis here? Thanx in advance.
					-Chris
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From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: question
Originator: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:14:22 GMT


In article <jenni.712135301@milton>, jenni@milton.u.washington.edu (Jennifer) writes:
|> From: jenni@milton.u.washington.edu (Jennifer)
|> Subject: question
|> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 07:21:41 GMT
|> 
|> I've been playing tennis for a bit and keep having the
|> same types of problems.  I'm kinda short (about 5'4'' ish) and
|> I wonder if it makes serving harder.  I can't even see any part
|> of the area I have to serve the ball into over the net.  :(


Speaking as another "vertically challanged" person (5' 5.5") I certainly
have no idea what it's like for taller folks either, so I can't
tell fer shur.  It is clearly easier for taller faols to get the ball in at
a sharper angle, but I don't feel that the lack of vision over the net
is significant.  As long as I can see through the net, and get a mental
picture of where the other side is (service line, etc) I tend
to not look at the other side much at all; I watch the tossed
ball, so the height issue is not too big.  I haven't done the geometry
to determine if your exact height precludes you from seeing the service
line when you do look down, that could be a real problem.

I have not played with any net that significantly cut down my vision through
it, if that's your problem, play elsewhere.  No legitimate net should 
inhibit vision.


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