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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian tales
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 17:12:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

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For some reason, people seem a little puzzled about Crooked Mick's dog.
I keep having to point out that it was NOT a clever dog, in fact it was
generally regarded as the silliest dog on the Speewah, especially when
you consider its size.  More than one New Chum had to be advised against
trying to saddle Crooked Mick's dog after some wag had asked them to do
just that.  Not that anybody cared about the New Chums all that much,
but people of sensitivity could see how appallingly embarrassed the dog
became, since all the saddles were too small for it.

The dog's main intellectual limitation was, as I have mentioned before,
in its total inability to light a fire unless you gave it matches, and
safety matches at that!

Still, I'm inclined to think that Mick's dog was brighter than people
thought, after one occasion on which I saw the dog sit, wag its tail for
a bit in an odd way, get up, turn round, look at the ground, turn back,
wag again, and so on.  Curious, I wandered over to have a look. There in
the dust was a textbook example of the diagram that always illustrates
Pythagoras' theorem.  Well, almost textbook: I'd say that the
triangle's right angle was about 3 degrees off, but the squares on the
three sides were very good indeed.

The dog spent about half an hour fiddling with it, but it never seemed
to get that right angle any closer, and in the end it mooched off.  So I
think that all the time people were laughing at the dog for being
stupid, it was just being absent-minded.

Which is no excuse, really, because a working dog has to keep its mind
on the task in hand, and that was where Crooked Mick's dog fell down.
I mean, take the time it had to boil the billy for Mick out on the edge
of the Grassy Paddock on the Speewah.  There were no trees for miles,
not even little shrubs, so the standard method was to light a grass
fire, and run along holding the billy over the flames.

Well Mick's dog had the matches, so it got the water, started the fire,
and ran along until the billy was boiled, but like I say, it was
absent-minded.  When the billy boiled, the dog was five miles away, but
it had gone and left the tea behind!

Maybe it had its mind on Fermat's Last Theorem or the four-colour map
theorem, but who needs a dog that can do original mathematics?

peter

 # SLMR 2.1 # The world's oldest known art is in Australia.



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From: Austin.Martin@p0.f731.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Austin Martin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: counseling
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 10:15:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/731.0 - Taft Middle School , Lincoln City OR

Toshiba P351incoln City, Oregon. I work atTaft Middle School, population 
c. 400. Most of my schoolcounseling experience has been at the 
Elementary Level. So, thisparticular age group is a bit new to me. Oh, I 
have dealt withthe early adolescent for a number of years earlier, but 
not inthe public school environment.What I would like to know is whether 
there are any othercounselors on the K12 network, and whether any would 
like tostart a communication line with me. I sure would like to hearfrom 
any counselor....                    Warmest regards....  Austin



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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian tales
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 21:07:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

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Somebody netmailed me the other day about Crooked Mick using two axes at
once when he was cutting fence posts.  Not possible, they alleged. That
just goes to show that some people don't know very much about the way
Australians look after their axes.  The standard timber-getter's
demonstration of a prize axe involves putting spit on the forearm, and
shaving all the hairs off.

Crooked Mick did this trick once, for an admiring audience of city
people who happened to be out visiting the Speewah.  (Taking them there
was a mistake, but that's another story.)

After Mick had performed, one woman gushed, "Do you shave yourself on
the face that way, Mr. Mick?"

Mick looked her up and down, wondering why she called him that, because
everyone knows he's just plain "Mick" when you talk to him, but she was
obviously an ignorant city type, so he answered her patiently.

"No," he said.  "I use the back of the axe to shave meself."

"But it's flat and blunt."

"Yersss," he drawled.  "In a way: I drive the whiskers in and bite 'em
off inside."  So saying, he performed this delicate operation for them.
First he drove the whiskers in, and then there was a grinding and
crunching sound as the whiskers were mashed and mangled under Mick's
molars.  Then he stepped to the edge of the verandah of the shearers'
quarters, and spat the result at a nearby fence, just as a fox jumped
over the top of the same fence.

This surprised everybody, because it was the first fox ever seen on the
Speewah, but the fox was even more surprised, as it instantly became the
last fox on the Speewah.  Some of Mick's whiskers had been crushed to
razor-sharp slivers, and these flew faster than the others, as there
was less air-resistance.  Reaching the fox first, these slivers passed
under the skin of the fox, and neatly separated the hide from the body.

Well, as you might expect, the fox jumped into the air at this, leaving
the hide standing in the air for just a moment, until the less crushed
whiskers reached the hide.  These fragments were much heavier, and the
force of their impact drove the hide back into the fence, where they
impaled it, perfectly stretched, against the fence.

Now I've seen the hide: it's still there, so you'll realise that when I
say Mick's axes were sharp, I mean what I say, and I know what I mean,
you might say.

The skinned fox slunk away and hid in a swamp, but they say a mosquito
came down in the night and swallowed it whole.  Probably the mossies
developed a taste for fox meat after that, because there never were any
other foxes seen on the Speewah.




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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian tales
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 19:35:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
It helps in putting these stories together if people let me know about
the things which seem unlikely to them.  The tales are all completely
true, of course, and their main merit is in the insight they give people
overseas into the Australian way of life.

As an Australian, I sometimes fail to realise that our cultural norms
are not completely shared by the rest of the world.  Your comments and
objections will make me realise when I have assumed an understanding
which seems obvious to us, this close to the Speewah.

        Yours in cross-cultural understanding,

                        peter




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From: Fran.Whitaker@p0.f1017.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Fran Whitaker)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Returning your "Hello"
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 08:05:56 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/1017.0 - Sunset Middle, Coos Bay OR

Kaye,

I've tried to make contact again in the area in which your message was 
originally found without success.  Please respond if you read this.  

Marshfield's Pirates are state champs in football!



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From: Ralph.Whalen@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Ralph Whalen)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Counseling
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:37:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

Hi  Austin
        I am an elementary counselor who is working at the Taipei American School in Taiwan.  We have 2,200 students in grades k-12.  We have 2 elem, 2 middle & 4 high school counselors.  I am interested in communicating with you or any other counselor in the world.  Like you, I also  have experience at all three levels.  AT  our school 90% of the kids go to college.  We have many overseas and local Asian students.  It costs 10,000 dollars US to go to our kindergarten, other grades are more expensive.  Let



 me know what topic you would like to discuss.  We are in the process of changing our transition from elem to middle school program .  What do you do?  UNtil later, Ralph , an Iowa boy who has been temporarily transplanted.



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From: Barbara.Holl@p0.f118.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Holl)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Canadian Pen Pals
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 15:14:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/118.0 - Keithley Komputer K, Tacoma WA

I am looking for Canadian sixth grade teachers who would like to 
exchange messages with a sixth grade class in Washington.  We have just 
received a grant and need desperately to find some classes scattered 
across Canade to write to.  Our sixth graders study Canada and are very 
excited about this project.  It would be too bad if they couldn't find 
anyone to write to.  They will be asking questions that most kids that 
age want to know about plus certain questions that the teacher has 
required.  Please let me hear from someone soon!

Barbara Holl

Tacoma, Washington



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From: khanna@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Kevin Hanna)
Subject: mneumonics
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 02:18:13 GMT

I'm looking for a good mneumonic for the activity series of
metals, or any other scientific mneumonics.  Any ideas?

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khanna@rvgs.vak12ed.edu  |  pleasing a thing after all as wanting.  It is not 
                            logical, but it is often true."  Spock to Stonn
From: robla@ids.net
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Looking for Geo type class exchange
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:52:11 EST
Organization: IDS World Network, (401) 884-9002 <data>, [155.212.1.2]


Hello World,
am looking for a class to play a "geo-game" type of message exchange
between our two classes.  The students could exchange questions and
answers about our states, towns, landscape, schools, local news, or 
counrties.  We are going to be getting a phone line in our classroom
very shortly, but in the begining the most of the work will be done
offline.  This is my first attempt at this, but I am egar to get my
students involved in telecomunications.
	It would be great if you had an internet address, so that we
send the messages via the net.  Please E-Mail Robla@ids.net if you are
interested in giving this a go.
				Thank you,
					Rob Labanca 
					Park View Jr.High (grds. 7-9)
From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian Christmas
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 21:11:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220

SL>Thanks so much for opening a window on your Christmas!

SL>Season's Greetings to you and yours!

Your message got here through a pile of corrupted pointers, tattered
flags and other minor disasters, not to mention holidays and things, by
3 January, having been sent Christmas Day.  Slightly belatedly, happy
New Year!

 # SLMR 2.1 # I'm not schizophrenic, I'm "multi-faceted"



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Subject: Re: Hello All
From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:08:39 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson) writes:
> In a message <06 Jan 93  00:04:56> to <All> about <Hello All>,
> Lisa Mulzet wrote:
> 
>  LM> me.  I then have to go to further extremes which have been mostly
>  LM> successful.  However, I was wondering if anyone had any  resource ideas
>  LM> that I could check out so that I could improve my teaching persona.
> 
> [some advice deleted in interest of space]
> when I award 10 minutes of after-class time to a Grade 9
> student, it is NOT done with any rancor.  Likewise, when I have to take 2%
> away from a student who has skipped a class, it is always done regretfully
> and I usually say something like, "Well, I'm sorry that you're losing marks
> for this.  I hope you can make it to class for the rest of the term."
> Regards,
> Steve
I would like to say Amen to Steve's advice.  Often, student teachers who
are not very assertive mix up the idea of assertiveness with
aggressiveness.  Steve's advice is very sound -the teacher is very
matter-of-fact that consequences do occur, and indeed, is often just as
regretful as the student over any breaches of class guidelines.

Paul MacFarlane
Danville, California
pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu
From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: thanks
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 09:19:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <06 Jan 93  09:55:00>, Patrick Galliez (32:41/511.1000) writes:

 PG>
 PG>I didn't understand very well your function, are you a teacher or a 
 PG>"normal user" of K12net?
 PG>If you are a teacher would you be interested in a exchange of "letters" 
 PG>between our respective students ?

No I am not a classroom teacher.  I operate the Spacemet BBS as sysop and  
teach telecommunications to the Middle School Teachers in our projects.

Middle school in this context is grade 4 through grade 9. 

Remind me, what grade you do you teach?  I might be able to find you some  
contacts. 



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From: Andre.Rombauts@f2206.n293.z2.fidonet.org (Andre Rombauts)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Science across Europe & e-mail
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:27:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:293/2206 - Teachers' Forum, Fleron

 > collecting of information, data and opinions. The results are
 > combined for the whole class in order to exchange with schools
 > in other countries. The information is usually sent by mail or
 > fax, although the work also provides an opportunity for linking
 > schools by E-mail.
The Association does not emphasize the use of e-mail exchanges. I think - could the european K12 Teachers' chat moderator think in another way? - the K12net is a wonderful media to develop this project. Who can help me to persuade the whole SAE team? Who can give suggestions for using e-mail in such exchanges?

.]I[. Andre Rombauts


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From: Jane.Whitten@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Jane Whitten)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: SKIN CANCERS AND SUCH
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 21:01:33 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Thanks for the warning Peter. We have been putting 29 block on the children 
for years and you can hardly tell that they have been in the sun even at the 
end of the summer.  It is amazing how many bikini clad dark women and bathing 
suit clad men with dark tans there still are around. By dark women I mean 
tanned women. They don't push the cancer bit as much here. I guess that it is 
because of our lack of a long hot summer. 
All the best Jane Whitten, Bridgewater, N.S.

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From: Jane.Whitten@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Jane Whitten)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: CHHIT CHAT
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 23:13:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Peter,
Loved the australian Christmas one. Being an Australian Myself I could 
really enjoy it. Do you by any chance have any dealings with the bunch in 
canberra? If you do , do you happen to run into my father, Dr. Wes Whitten? 
He is now associated with the Australian Academy of Science in Canberra. If 
not He may look you up when in Sydney.
All the best for the new year.
Jane Whitten, Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada

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From: Cathy.Keppler@f152.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Cathy Keppler)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Communication
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 19:18:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/152 - SpaceMet North 2, Greenfield MA

Hi Jeff.  Thanks for your note about the things you'll be working on this month, and I appreciate the effort you've put in already making notes and finding a textbook for me and all.  I'll be glad to swing by either the school or your house to pick them up.  On your suggestion I did read through all the messages from the kids at GF and Frontier - they were wonderful, and most enlightening on many levels!  I'm starting to really look forward to this whole experience....in fact, I've even come up with a SPAR



K idea, if that's still a possibility.  What do you think of "Amazing Science Demos", sort of an inquiry training approach to bar tricks?  I'll try to get hold of you this weekend.      Cathy


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Subject: Alternative scheduling in schools
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:16:36 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu


	I am on a task from a committee here at school to search out 
educators on the network who have experimented with "alternative 
scheduling" at their schools.  If you are out there and you have 
experimented with "alternative scheduling" at your school, i would love
to get in contact with you.  Please e-mail me directly at my account.
Thank you!


Thomas Beaudoin
History teacher, International Baccalaureate Program
Lee's Summit High School
Lee's Summit, MO

TBEAUDOIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU
From: Patrick.Galliez@p1000.f511.n41.z32.fidonet.org (Patrick Galliez)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: thanks
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 09:55:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 32:41/511.1000

Hello Helen

 > Welcome to K12net from Amherst, Massachusetts USA.

Thank you very much for answering my first message.

 > Our K12 Sr chat area would be a good place for your students to exchange
 >  messages.  Also our K12 Francais would be a good place to meet students
 > who  are writing in French.

I didn't understand very well your function, are you a teacher or a "normal user" of K12net?
If you are a teacher would you be interested in a exchange of "letters" between our respective students ?
 > Our weather here has been strange lately.  Communities East and West of
 > Amherst recieved 2-3 feet of snow last week.  We received about 2
 > inches.  It  has been in the 30-40 deg farenheigt  (0-5 deg C) the past
 > few days and we had  rain which washed the snow away.  Today is sunny
 > and cool.

We haven't got  snow so far and it's better... especially to drive a car!!


Kind regards, see you soon,
Patrick,

 > --- msged 1.97S ZTC
 >  * Origin: SpaceMet/Physics Forum, UMass/Amherst 413-545-1959  (1:321/
 > 110)


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From: mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich)
Subject: Re: mneumonics
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Radford)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:43:25 GMT

My daughters submit these two:

King Phillip Came Over From Germany Singing.

[kingdom, phyllum, class, order, family, genus species]


Many violinists enjoy munching jelly sandwiches under noisy
pianos. [or now "under pianos noisily"]

[Mercury, Venus, Earth . . .]


Hungry Henry likes blue-berries.  Carol needs one flat nail.

[Hydrogen, helium, lithium, . . .]


Rachael says it works better for her when she writes her own.

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                 mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu               
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Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
From: RUSTE@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (RUSTE_1)
Subject: Counseling
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:07:11 GMT

Ralph, k12.ed.life-skill seems to be less busy.  What sorts of things do you
want to discuss?  I'm ready.  Ellen Rust.  ruste@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: G'day
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 20:55:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
GG>Thanks for your Oz Christmas meesage - it was good reading it (even for me a
GG>fellow aussie - maybe I shoiuld give the inland version of that)
By all means, let us turn inland and lift our eyes to the hills . . .

GG>BTW how did that red spot on your back turn out?  nothing nasty? funnelweb
GG>bite? allergy to tinsel in shops? nervous reaction to seeing sixteen santas
GG>three days?
Nothing exciting at all, but the quack said best to play safe, and did
me over with dry ice and methylated spirits: ethanol to foreigners <g>.
Now I know why politicians hate a blowtorch to the belly: I've had the
equivalent to my back.

My point was not to sound a gloomy note, or to express a fear, rather
more to record the way in which we have changed our attitudes.

I shall tell more of this tale later.

Happy new year

peter




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From: Andre.Rombauts@f2206.n293.z2.fidonet.org (Andre Rombauts)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Science across Europe (3) - Order form 01/93
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:11:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:293/2206 - Teachers' Forum, Fleron

Print and fill in this order form and send it to:

Evelyn Van Dyk,
The Association for Science
Education (ASE),
College Lane, Hatfield
Herts AL10 9AA, England
Fax: (0)707 266532

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===== Order form SAEB/AR

The material in Science across Europe books may be photocopied for
class use. The books can be purchased from the Association for
Science Education at 19 each. The price includes membership of
the network, post and packing.

Please send me:

                         19 / book

O Acid rain over Europe  .....

O Using energy at home   .....

O Renewable energy       .....

O Drinking water         .....

O What did you eat       .....

Total                    ..... (Pounds Sterling)



Name ______________________________


Address   _________________________

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Your language  ____________________



Methods of payment:


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O    By Post Office Giro
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.]I[. Andre Rombauts


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