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From: deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal)
Subject: Re: need advice on used amp ASAP
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:33:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Oct13.183924.698@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:
|> A local musics store has a used Peavey TKO80 for sale.  I haven't seen it
|> myself; the salesperson says it's in very good shape.  They want $169 for
|> it.  It this a decent price or should I be able to talk them down some?
|> 
|> I'll be using it to play alternative rock and roll, so the high end
|> response doesn't concern me much {I've heard that these 15" Peavey's don't
|> do real well with the higher frequencies}.  It has the standard speaker;
|> no black widow or anything like that.  I'll be using it for both practice
|> and playing small clubs.
|> 
|> Thanks for any responses.

From my experience from Eastern Ma. this is a very good price from a store if it
is in good shape.  I got a one year old TKO65 from a store about about 2 years
ago for $229 in new condition.  I have seen ads for private sales around here
for TKO65s in the $150-$200 range but I doubt they are in as good a shape as
the one I got.

You are correct in that in my limited experience the standard Peavey 15s do not
do much in the high end but are very reliable.  I have not used a TKO80 but I
beleave it is a bit more powerfull than my TKO65 but basicly the same (it may
have a graphic EQ which mine does not but I am not sure).

Bottom line is that it seems like a good price on the surface.

			Good Luck,

			John
-- 
********
Opinions of John Deal at deal_j@apollo.hp.com
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From: C31801IE@WUVMD (Derek Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: how do you do that funky reggae?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:59:19 GMT
Reply-To: derek@wubios.wustl.edu
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD

In my limited work with reggae, I have noticed several things; first, there
are different types of reggae. On bass with one-drop (lotsa hi-hat cymbal, one
big bass drum THUMP! at the end of the time phrase), I use staccato figures,
and a short rest before I hit with the THUMP!, and repeat the figure.

With rock steady, the figures tend to be shorter, less busy, and I use lots
of rests, to give the song pulse to the #1 guitar.

With ska, it's almost constant root motion, not unlike blues.

Hope this helps you some, but this is by _NO_ means a "how-to". Just my
$ .02, and what I've done sitting in with reggae bands.

Derek "Sleepy" Morgan
From: tmottone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Mottonen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:19:49 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <ddogan.18.718982416@AFIT.AF.MIL> ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan) writes:
<...>
>
>  Speaking of bass players...has anyone seen Graham Central Station on CD?

Yes, I have a Japanese import CD, _Release Yourself_ from 1974. Great stuff!

Teemu.
-- 
Teemu Mottonen
Dept. of Computer Science    tmottone@kruuna.helsinki.fi
Univ. of Helsinki, Finland   tmottone@klaava.helsinki.fi
From: glenn@bessel.umd.edu (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: There appears to be a black hole in the net
Date: 8 Oct 1992 10:03:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

There appears to be a gap in the distribution of alt.guitar.bass.
Because I cannot post directly from the machine on which I read
news, I post by mailing to cs.utexas.edu.  I have not seen any 
of my posts to this newsgroup at my site.  I do know that my posts
have gotten out, because I have received replies.  If anyone has
followed up one of my articles rather than replying, I have not
seen it.

If you've followed up, and it's not too much trouble, could you 
please mail me a copy?  Thanks.


D. Glenn Arthur Jr., The Human Vibrator, glenn@bessel.umd.edu
"Being a _man_ means knowing that one has a choice not to act like a 'man'."

How much interest is there in a Transvestite/Transsexual newsgroup?  How many 
would post there?   Anonymously?  How many would _vote_ non-anonymously?  And
what would you name it?  

You can send me mail anonymously at anonymus+262@godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: strings for fretless?
From: greenspa@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:53:46 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

HOWDY,...uh howdy, can anyone reccommend the best type of string
for a fretless? ground, round, flat wound ? etc. I know this is
probably a FAQ but any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
in advance. my name is russ and you can reach me at:



    greenspa@vax.sonoma.edu (email)...but i'm always lurking
                                      around here too...
Xref: sparky alt.guitar.bass:1615 rec.music.funky:1544
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Graham Central Station was:(Bootsy Collins)
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:00:29 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

>In article <ddogan.17.718977448@AFIT.AF.MIL> ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan) >writes:

[Looong discussion abt Bootsy deleted] 
> Speaking of bass players...has anyone seen Graham Central Station on CD?

Shuh have.
 Listened to a Japanese CD by GCS at a record store recently. It was so-so 
 and I have forgotten its name ("Do that dance"?). Think it was from 78.
 I suspect there must be more CD's available if he stayed on the same
 record company for a longer time. It was on Warner Bros if my mind don't
 fail me. Can anyone enlighten me on which GCS records I should buy. 
 Saw one called "Mirror", but it was wellworn and rather expensive.

-- 
********************The revolution will not be computerized*******************
name:Palle Zetterstrand			      e-mail:superfly@etek.chalmers.se
no future without a past"..."There is no future without a past"..."There is no
From: scrxlt@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (DAVID OLSZEWSKI)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: FORSALE .. Desperatley need to sell.
Keywords: I know that your probably sick of reading these BUT ...
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:04:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I desperately need to sell these items.  Please make an offer
	on any item that your interested and let's close a deal.
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

	Yamaha APX9-12		Acoustic Electric 12 String
	Black w/ Stereo Inputs and Hard Shell Case.
 		Make offer.

	Peavey Odyssey		Electric Guitar
	Les Paul Style,  Red w/ Maple Top,  24 Frets,  2 Humbuckers
	Gold Hardware and Hard Shell Case.
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	Peavey Backstage Chorus 208	25 Watt Practice Amp
	2-8 inch Speakers,  Clean and Distortion Channels,  Reverb
	and Chorus,  w/ Foot Switch.
		Make offer.

	Yamaha MT 120 		4 Track Recorder
	Brand new, in the box, never been used.  All manuals and
	packing included.
		$ 300.00 or best offer.

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: judic@netcom.com (Judi Clark)
Subject: Letter from ed of Bass Player
Summary: If you have had any problems with your subscription, read this!
Keywords: Bass Player magazine, subscription problems?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:50:49 GMT

An Open Letter to Bass Player Subscribers
 
 
I understand that some of you have had problems with 
subscription service. I take these complaints very 
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If you have a problem, please do the following:
 
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2) Write me a letter explaining the problem. Include 
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3) Main your letter to me at:
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  judi

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 01:07:23 -0400 
From: Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Slap Style
	<1992Oct6.170852.3785@vax.muskingum.edu>
Distribution: world,local

No Shit...

I saw Primus  3 times!!!!

And Les is amazing...



Later
Merlin
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
From: ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan)
Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:57:28 GMT

In article <5uBgsB8w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:
>From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
>Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
>Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:17:03 EDT

>Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>> Can anyone recomend a CD that shows Bootsy Collins' bass playing at its fines

>  All of the Bootsy's Rubber Band albums are available as Japanese import 
>CDs- they all should be good if you can find them.  The only one I have is 
>Ahh, The Name Is Bootsy Baby, and it is AWESOME.  
>  Most of the P-Funk albums from the 70's have a few Bootsy performances 
>mixed in with the work of other bass players.  I've read that the album 
>Chocolate City (one of the only ones I don't have) has some great Bootsy. 
>Parliament's Funkentelechy doesn't have Bootsy on it at all, but it's a 
>great album for funk bass players nonetheless.

>     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
>     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa

  It's "Stretching Out" for me, every time.  IMHO, he put out good albums 
since then, but to me, none was more satisfying overall.

  The Parliament cut Pat Buzby referred to in which Bootsy participated was 
called "Ride On", on the Chocolate City album.  He also appeared on "Be My 
Beach" on Funkadelic's "Let's Take It To The Stage" (Westbound), in which he 
does a parody of Jimi Hendrix' stage rap (an in-joke that evolved in the 
studio and ultimately became part of the personna).
From: earprl@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Ron Earp)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Need Primus Tab for Too Many Puppies
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:24:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Hi All,
    I was wondering if anyone out there could send me some tab for Too
Many Puppies by Primus. The song is on the Frizzle Fry album if anyone
needs a memory jog. I've tried too mess around with it but I just can't
seem to get it right. Thanks in advance!

-Ron

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: manitp@sage4c.its.rpi.edu (Philip Joseph Manitta Jr.)
Subject: help the newcomer!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:28:38 GMT

HEY!

hows it goin' all you netters.   Well, I've been playing bass for 2 and
1/2 months.  And I have to say taking up the bass is one of the best
things I ever did.  I have a few questions for a beginner.  First of all,
I pick.  And for some reason I have a REALLY difficult time playing
legato (smoothly).  It almost sounds like I'm trying to turn arena rock
pieces into funk.  Now- my timing is right, I can play along with a
drummer or the album w/out missing a beat.  It just seems like no
matter how hard I try, my right hand is always a split-second behind my
left hand and there is some dead air between each note.  I've been
using a medium pick, I recently switched to a thin pick and better
results, but I don't really like the feel or sound from a thin pick.  Any
suggestions?

Also- for you techies......  I have a washburn pro-bass 25 amp. and I
absolutely love the sound I get from the thing.  But it doesn't work
quite right I often find that the volume periodically drops out.  
Actually it sounds sort of like the EQ. dies and gives me a dry
signal.  But that's not actually what's happening because if turn the
little bass/treble nobbies, it still changes the tone.  Sometimes if I
turn the volume up a little and drive a really loud signal into it, it
gets normal again.  I think the trouble is with the inputs.  If anyone
could offer suggestions to how to fix this problem, I would much
appreciate it.

I also have what might be an assinine question for you guys, but I've
never  been given an explanation.......  What are P's and J's and
what's the difference???

-- 
Philip J. "Ralph" Manitta Jr. (RLF)     _|_       " For me to live is
88 14th st.                              |        Christ, to die is
Troy NY, 12180                           |        gain!"   (manitp@rpi.edu) 
" Don't even think of copying this! The band NEEDS money! " -Fluffy
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jes@unislc.uucp (Jon Seaman)
Subject: Re: how do you do that funky reggae?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:41:55 GMT


What a great artical!

What about some reggae bass tabs?

How about tabs from Bob, Ziggy, Peter Tosh, Yellowman, 
or anybody else for that matter.
From: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Bounced message to jes@unislc
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:57:55 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar.bass
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Sorry to post "personal mail," but I got a nice email from someone,
and I'd like to acknowledge it. Sorry for any impropriety.

From MAILER-DAEMON@husc Mon Oct 12 13:40:54 1992
Return-Receipt-To: MAILER-DAEMON@husc
Received: by husc8.harvard.edu; Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:40:44 -0400
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:40:44 -0400
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To: plopper
Status: R

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:40:44 -0400
From: plopper
To: jes@unislc.slc.unisys.com
Subject: Re:  Thanks for the input

Thanks for the uh... compliment! You know, I actually discovered something
relevant to your question: I was looking (desperately, as always) for a 
6-string set of strings, and I was "forced" to create one by buying a 4-string
set and two singles. As it turned out, I got a 4-string set of Ken Smiths,
which I had not tried before, and a .130 Ken Smith "flat-round" B string for
the bottom. The result? A "normal" sounding bass for the four strings, 
including a really bright open E, and a whole different feel for the low
notes: soft and cushy like typical flatwounds. I put a couple things
down on my 4-track and the diffence in timbre was very interesting and 
useful. It had never occurred to me to "mix-and-match" strings before,
but that low B is almost a synth pad now. Add some compression, and it'll
hum (not scream) forever...

-- 
George Plopper 
Email: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu
"I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:08:17 EDT
From: Chris Hoffman <CXH181@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: five string technique

jon,  I've been playing a Washburn 5-string for a little over a year.  It took
me about 6 months just to adjust to that 5th string!  Write me back at my email
 address and tell me if you've got a low B or a high C string and I'll try to g
et some pointers that will make you're transition to the world of the 5-string
much easier.  Until then, just keep jammin' and practice scales and arpeggios o
ver all five strings.
                                               Chris Hoffman
                                               cxh181@psuvm.psu.edu
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 23:21:34 -0400 
From: Brian William Carroll <bc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Pickups?

    I have a Fender J-P bass with active electronics and I am
considering putting new pick-ups in it but I am not very knowledgeable
in the ways of pick-ups. Does anyone have any recommendations.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.funky
From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
Subject: Re: Bootsy Collins
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:17:03 EDT

Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> Can anyone recomend a CD that shows Bootsy Collins' bass playing at its fines

  All of the Bootsy's Rubber Band albums are available as Japanese import 
CDs- they all should be good if you can find them.  The only one I have is 
Ahh, The Name Is Bootsy Baby, and it is AWESOME.  
  Most of the P-Funk albums from the 70's have a few Bootsy performances 
mixed in with the work of other bass players.  I've read that the album 
Chocolate City (one of the only ones I don't have) has some great Bootsy. 
Parliament's Funkentelechy doesn't have Bootsy on it at all, but it's a 
great album for funk bass players nonetheless.

     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser)
Subject: Re: how do you do that funky reggae?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:03:16 GMT

: I posted recently regarding playing reggae.  I too recommend the RockSkool
: (sic?) videos.  I saw the reggae one, and it would serve any musician
: interested in this branch of music very well.
: I especially recall the drummers part, in which he cleared up a *lot* of
: the mysterys surrounding reggae drumming.
: Has anyone seen these videos for other styles?  Recommendations?

Does anybody know if these are available as a video collection.  A 
friend told me you could get a workbook at the time they were on 
to go along with the series.   
  --------------------------------------------------------------------
  Fred Handloser
  Corvallis, Oregon
  fredh@cv.hp.com
From: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu (George Plopper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Right-hand finger technique
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:33:03 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <81266@ut-emx.uucp> mohawk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohawk Dave) writes:
>
>I need some specifics about how to get a good sound using 2-or-3-finger
>technique with the right hand to pluck the strings.  I can get decent
>slapping and popping sounds, and decent picking sounds, but can't find
>a manner of plucking strings that produces a sound I like.  If I am
>very gentle, then the sound is nice and smooth but a bit too mellow.
>If I pluck more harshly, I run into problems with noises from strings
>encountering the fretboard.  My action is not set much differently
>than any other bass players i have encountered.

There is an obvious point that is worth repeating: you won't get a 
"pick-like" sound out of using your fingers, no matter how hard you
pluck.  So, when you say "get a good sound," it's a little ambiguous.
The best sound I get out of my bass with my fingers comes when I have
new strings (to enrich the higher harmonics, I suppose), pluck so
that the string can be heard unamplified, and keep my fingernails
cut real, real short- nothing like a nail click to ruin a good 
recording session... 
>You see, sometimes I try to get into playing with my fingers, but
>it always ends up the same:  I try a pick and then tend to keep
>using it.

Maybe what you like about the pick is the fact that you get a sharp 
attack, which tends to produce a brighter, crisper sound. New strings
will give you that with just your fingers, but the pick will lengthen
the "quality time" of strings by bringing out the crisper sound.

>I would appreciate details about good right-hand methods, concerning
>how hard to pluck the strings and what good angles of attack are.

Due solely to habit, I always move my thumb so that it rests on the 
string immediately above the one I am plucking (with the exception of the
E string, of course).  The result is that the tip of my plucking finger
tends to strike the string first, rather than the ball, or pad. That
makes for a rather short "finger-to-string" contact time, instead of
dragging my finger across the string. It tends to produce a rather
bright sound, I guess.

-- 
George Plopper 
Email: plopper@husc8.harvard.edu
"I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means."
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Right-hand finger technique
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:48:19 GMT

In article <81266@ut-emx.uucp> mohawk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohawk  
Dave) writes:
> I need some specifics about how to get a good sound using  
2-or-3-finger
> technique with the right hand to pluck the strings.  I can get  
decent
> slapping and popping sounds, and decent picking sounds, but can't  
find
> a manner of plucking strings that produces a sound I like.  If I am

Some folks play with their fingers angled parallel to the strings as  
though they were playing an upright--can't say that I've tried it  
much myself.  Hmmm...now who was it who played that way?   
Ummmm...Jordan maybe?  Yeah, I think so.
From: bmarinez@gypsy.next.com (Bryan Marinez (Temp))
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Regal Tenor Dobro
Keywords: Dobro
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:47:29 GMT
Reply-To: boomer@gypsy.next.com

Is there anyone out there who has any literature or advice for someone who  
is trying to learn to play the Tenor Dobro?  All of the shops I have been  
to have had some knowledge of the instrument, but no one can tell me where  
I can get instruction.  This guitar has been in my family for a very long  
time and I would like to learn how to do it justice.
From: mojo@reed.edu (a cadaverous olive)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Right-hand finger technique
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:01:49 GMT
Organization: the Fortran Shell


You might try playing further towards the bridge.  You'll get more high end,
but you can pluck harder without having the strings rattle, and it sounds a
little more picklike.

	NT
	
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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:15:02 GMT
Subject: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center