HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rbm2273@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.B. Mead )
Subject: PDKSH Startup
Originator: rbm2273@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:19:16 GMT

PDKSH is a KSH-like shell that is available on "amiga.physik.unizh.ch".

It looks very nice, but I'm having a little problem at startup. It does
NOT automatically look for a startup script ".kshrc", etc. I tried
snoopdos and came up empty.

How can I invoke PDKSH for interactive use and also have it execute
an initial shell script?  Sounds easy enough.

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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Subject: Re: high density floppies on A3000T?
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:15:25 GMT

kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
- 	I just got my A3000T and I was wondering if there is any way to tell if
- I have high(er) density floppy drives than the standard 880K.
- 
- 	- Kyle
- 
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Put in a HD disk and format it.

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From: jay@deepthot.cary.nc.us (Jay Denebeim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Robinson 1, Commodore 0
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:30:32 GMT
 <1992Aug9.110145.23331@cs.tulane.edu> <1992Aug13.152754.4728@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: The Software Distillery
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In article <1992Aug13.152754.4728@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>, Jeffrey Grimmett 9999 writes:

> In article <1992Aug9.110145.23331@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
> 
> >|> Your little Nivenism so very eloquently expresses my gribe with CBM.  Note the
> >       I hate to be a nitpick, but Larry Niven never said that. Robert Anson
> >     Heinlein used 'Tanstaafl' in his book 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.'
> >     We now return you to your regular Amiga Information...
> 
> You're no doubt suspecting I've heard enough on this by now :-)  Sorry, got my
> space cadets confused.

Actually you're both right.  TANSTAAFL is a major theme in Niven/Pournelle's
'Oath of Fealty'.  Actually, it was stressed more in that novel than in 'Moon
is a Harsh Mistress'.

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From: rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Babylon 5 animation - commentary
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I saw a short preview of Babylon 5, which included about 2 minutes
worth of the Toaster generated animation, at the Comic Con Saturday.
First, I'd like to say it was indeed impressive, and definately
state of the art.  However, the clip was mostly designed to stun
people not used to the Amiga/toaster.  For instance, one shot was of
the Vorlon ship coming out of the stargate, which looked normal at
the begining, but then the top of the ship opened like an umbrella,
revealing a glowing animated texture map underneath.  Another shot
had a different ship doing some sort of docking manuvers, when one
section opens up to look like crab or insect leggs.  While these are
not run of the mill things in 3D animations, they are not that
mindblowing.  What is really impressive is the quality, which is as
good as anything done with models, but having all the advantages of
computer rendering.  I might add though, there had been claims that
even industry insiders could not tell that it was done with
computers rather than models; well, I was with an artist friend of
mine who said she could definately tell the difference, because of
the lighting.  While I don't disagree with her, IMHO, these are just
minor differences, not something that could be used to say that
models are better than what the toaster puts out.  One final note,
JMS did point out that these were seens he felt were "safe", and the
real top secret stuff will be kept under wraps untill Feb.

Rick

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From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Unanswered Questions
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:59:48 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat, Inc.

In article <1992Aug17.161724.29075@sagpd1> monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) writes:
>In article <34238@cbmvax.commodore.com> andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) writes:
>>The closest I've come to your setup is a Syquest.  It required a
>>cart. inserted before the system would boot, but otherwise let me use
>>the system with no problems.
>>
>
>    Is it correct to say that C= does not support removable media drives 
>then? 

No, somehow that doesn't not sound correct.

It would appear that some thought should be put in HDToolBox so that
>Bernoulli, Syquest, Floptical, tape drives...etc. will work without knowledge
>that is not in the manual. 

The Syquest was just plug in and go.  A SCSI floptical was just plug in
and go.  A 3070 tape drive is just plug in and go.  A Sony optical
(reported to me, I didn't see it personally) was just plug in an go.

Your Bernoulli apparently is not.

The filesystem pings any drive that shows up as removable
(from the Inquier option in HDToolBox) automatically, so it can pick up
disk changes.

>Is there a flag in the ridged disk block that 
>can be used to force it to boot from a particular ID/Partition or to ignore
>a particular device if it is not ready? I know for a fact that the Bernoulli
>has a status of the cartridge presence available and I suspect most of the
>other removable media devices do also. The advantage of being able to boot
>with out a cartridge is one of the things I like about removable media 
>(keeps the kids from trashing the good stuff) :)

Unfortunately, a lot of those kind of status functions are non-standard or
manufacturer specific.

Perhaps in a future release the scsi.device scan method can be modified
to work better with your drive.  You should send in an enhancement
request giving full details (including module of Bournelli) and
ROM revision of the drive (you can get this from the HDToolBox get
info from drive screen) and requesting what you want.

>
>    There is another related question about HDToolBox that was never answered:
>Why does it take about two miniutes for HDToolBox to recognise a Bernoulli?
>What does it do to a hard drive? The quantum takes only a couple of seconds.

I suspect that's how long it takes the Bernoulli to either time out
or to respond to the mode select and inquiry command.  Without actually
trying your particular drive, its hard to tell.

>Monty Saine


			andy
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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: LOOK, CBM IS WORKING HARD...
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:30:20 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > They called up our local group... see what help they can offer.
 > ...and are bending over backwards for us.

Ok, sounds good so far.  Perhaps the real question is, is anyone with the
power to do what is needed listening or is this yet another dog and pony
show to make the serfs *think* that someone's listening?  Hopefully, it's
the former but the record in that department doesn't make that a high
probability event.



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From: mboone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael B Boone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Floppy Fixer?
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:48:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Aug19.214809.15699
Organization: The Ohio State University

I've got a messed up floppy.  It's a 2.0 FFS floppy disk.  So I'm
wondering what the best PD program is that I can use to fix this?
I'm don't trust diskdoctor.  Is there something like DiskSalv for 2.0?
At anyrate, if know of a good program, please email me and let me know
where I can FTP it from.

Thanks.
Mike.
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From: dac@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The Byte article on New Amigas
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: munnari!labtam!eyrie!prolix!dac
FollowUp-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
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Keywords: 
Organization: More like Dis~, really.

In article <IeXy=W_00XNIMIIW5f@cs.cmu.edu>, Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes:

> The byte article by Pournelle (in the sept issue) was about the A3000T,
> which Jerry liked. He told everyone to go out and buy one (well, more or
> less). 

At $3K. I'm sure lots of people are ready with their cash. Not!

I drooled over the SGI R4000 'Crimson' review in the July edition
of Byte. It was cool. Now where to get the $US110,000 ... :-)

> p.s. speaking of Pournelle, I just read a boot called "Fallen Angel" by
> him, Niven, and someone else. It was garbage, utter garbage. Some of

Too damned right. I read it last October on my holiday at the
coast, and it was such tripe, I kicked myself for purchasing it.

Fallen Angels is really horribly bad SF.

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From: ttyytt@mixcom.com (Adam Costello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 040 3000T !!
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:23:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug21.072332.555
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

In article <34512@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>Well, it is somewhat true.  To fully work within specs, the heat of the
>68040 must be taken care of.  When the original design was made for the
>A3000, the space for the CPU area was enough for the 3Watts that a 68040
>was supposed to burn.  It turns out that this number was low and the real
>power usage is somewhere around 7Watts.  Now, to get this to work correctly,
>(within specs, since we do not do things outside of specs such as run a
>25MHz part at 28MHz, etc) the head sink had to have certain properties.
>Maybe future heat sink designs can make this board fit, but currently the
>heat sink required is a bit too large to fit within the A3000 case work.

So what you're implying is that all the '040 cards currently being offered
for the A3000 by third parties are violating the specs, right?

Are people using these boards having problems?  Or do the problems not
start until after the warantee expires...

AMC
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: FTP Guru needed
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:28:16 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <64072@cup.portal.com>, DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>I don't have the time, much less the patients, to search the convoluted mass
>>of directories that passes for a logical tree structure. I tried but after
>>a half hour of looking in empty directories and following dead-ends, I
>>gave up.  The only advantage to such a structure is that along the way,
>>you may run across some good stuff, which I did.
>>
>>Tom Setzer
>>setzer@ssd.comm.mot.com
>>
> 
> I recently gained FTP access and I too am frustrated... There MUST be a way to
> use LS to look for a file within a tree structure, there also MUST be a way
> to read a .README file without FTPing it and then DOWNLOADing it and then MOREi
> ng
> it and then DELETEing it and going back for the actual file if you decide the
> .README was interesting. AND there MUST be a way to get FTPed sites to not be
> so picky about upper/lower case when CDing and GETing.. AND....

1)  There isn't an easy way to use LS to look for a file within a tree
structure.  My usual method is to do a "ls -ltR dir.lis" (I'm using MultiNet on
a VAX/VMS system), spawn out of FTP and then search the file for what I'm
looking for.  Many sites also store a file along the lines of ls-lR.  It's
usually updated nightly - download this to get a full directory listing.

2)  To read a .README file, you can simply GET it to the screen.  For VMS
systems, GET XX.README TT: will do it.  

3) To get FTP sites to not be case sensitive, convince the sites to replace
their Unix file systems with a real file system :-).  Seriously, under Unix,
the files are case sensitive.  There's nothing you can do about that.  

> Any Ideas where I find information on making the most of FTP?
> 
> (and if anyone says "Use ARCHIE to track down an FTP tutorial on the net" I'll
> scream!)

Use ARCHIE to track down an FTP tutorial on the net.  :-)

Depending on your FTP implementation, online help and man pages should help
you.  The big problem is that FTP just isn't for Unix any more.  What is really
confusing to a lot of people is that you see the remote file system as they
choose to represent it which isn't necessarily how your originating system
presents its file systems.  For a good time, FTP into a VM file system some
day... 

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From: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AA Chip set
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:26:18 GMT
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia

jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:

>How did they screw A1000 owners?  By giving them a $1k discount on the A2000
>when it was introduced so they wouldn't be out in the cold?  By giving them
>another $1k discount on an A3000 just by showing up with the first page from
>the manual when the 3000 was introduced?

[ More ranting deleted ]

You seem to forget that not everyone lives in the U.S.A.  Over here in
Australia we get effectively *no* support from C=.  There are *no* powerup
programs or anything like it.

Yes I would say that C= screwed A1000 owners badly.



Phil
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From: bohlman@plains.NoDak.edu (Daemon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: DirWorks 1.62 seems to hate my floppies...
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:15:20 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <crystal.713682321@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>It is always the SAME block - 880.
>It matters NOT which drive I use.
>It matters NOT which floppy I use.   
>It kills the floppy completely so that when I try to reinsert it into the
>drive to check it, I get the disk icon and   :NDOS  under it.
>
>Any clues on this?  Have others had the same problem with that block number??
>Can this affect my harddrive if that block number is ever left vacant on it
>for DW to get its claws into? 
>
>I am referring to 1.62 version only.
> 
>System is: A2000, 2.04, 1M-Agnus/2M-Fast (if this makes a difference)

I have had the same problem ocasionally, as has a good friend of mine, except
we had it with both 1.61 and 1.62.  Something in 2.04 doesn't like the routines
used.

I have heard that the 2.1 version of SetPatch fixes that little problem, but,
never having used it, I can't say for sure...

I wouldn't worry about your harddrive, however, because block 880 is, I believe
 a control block of some sort on floppies.  If it dies, the floppy is dead.

FixDisk can recover part of the data on the disk, usually most of it.
Until C= decides to release the 2.1 disks, I'd say hang-on to backup copies and
don't use the move function.

A copy of FixDisk couldn't hurt, either...
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From: DEBATZ@FRMEU51.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: LhI, LhBackup, ArjA, LhA V2.00 Beta testers
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:19:01 GMT


(Ken Goldenberg) wrote :

>>...
>>  In your letter please write what category you fit in (A-G)
>>and why. Some information about who you are would also be
>>appreciated.
>Well, those are the categories that I **most** fit into.  I am a
>senior in Computer and Systems engineering at RPI.  As a result I
>have a GOOD internet connection, including FTP access.
>....

But obviously he is not able to read entirely a text (and you can imagine
a documentation...) ;-)

the text from Stefan Boberg was ending by :

>  Responses should be sent to ONE of the following addresses:
>     InterNet/UseNet :  boberg@lysator.liu.se        (best)
>     FIDO            :  "Stefan Boberg" @ 2:204/404
>     Standard Snail Mail :    Stefan Boberg ....

I don't see comp.sys.amiga.misc in this list.

B. de Batz (France)
From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Pearls before swine
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:50:52 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes:

>While I have a lot of sympathy for what you are saying, please have a
>little empathy for we those of us who don't know what you know about the
>upcoming machines.  No matter how justified, it does a company's image
>no good to be seen to be insulting its customers, no matter how
>obnoxious some of us are.

I'm not trying to 'flame' you, but for all of the Commodore Employees,
that are kind enough to talk to us on the net, it is only their
personal opinions, that they express. It says so in their signatures,
and I wholeheartedly supports that Commodore employess get pissed of
at some usenet posters and complain; if CBM(the company) expressed
insults like you suggest, I'd be against it just as you are, but this 
has not happened, and I do not expect it to.

So this is a silly 'support' letter to commodore people, who get
outraged at what they are expected to read.

Have a nice day.
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From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WSJ Article  -- CBM is dying? : -)
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:42:47 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat, Inc.

In article <sheldon.714406013@du248-05.cc.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
>In <jbono.02r5@tension.UUCP> jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
>
>>BEFORE some imbecile comes up and screams about how CBM is going down the tubes
>>because of an unexpected 4th qtr loss, I am going to post some of the comments
>>made in the WSJ article which commented on the loss.
>> 
>>"Commodore . . . sells the majority of its consumer oriented computers in
>>Europe, making its dollar-stated results notoriously hard to predict."
>> 
>>"Analysts agreed that Commodore could rebound, citing good potential for new
>>models of its Amiga personal computer, as well as some novel handheld
>>products."
>
> Handheld products?  Interesting...
>
> So is Commodore going back to making Calculators?
>
> Or is this an Amigaboy?
>
> Ohwell, doesn't matter.  They'll never see the light of day.
>

Marc, your Steve Sheldon mask is slipping off :-)  

>Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu

		andy
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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Searching for Mike Farren.....
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes:
>Milk cartons?  Mike isn't that young!  :-)

	Not even close. :-)

>Seriously, if you hear from Mike Farren or learn his whereabouts, let us all
>know.  I know him too (he's spoken at BADGE meetings, UNIX meetings, etc.)).

	Well, as far as I know he has no net access, but his roommate may be
willing to carry mail home to him.  The address is uunet!debbie!harley
(Scott Drysdale).  As far as I know Mike is still looking for work, and
Scott is still joining the Navy RSN (he already enlisted).

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:27:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug21.222735.1043
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > To summarize, lets worry about the price issue when it is time.
 > For now lets rejoice that the runtime will be free...

Good advice, John.  Once this becomes available those people who rejected
AmigaVison for not having a freely distributable runtime package may return
to the fold and rely less upon other non-CBM products.


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