HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cdminter@icaen.uiowa.edu (Corey D Minter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Help needed with 1750 REU chips
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:14:24 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Inside of my 1750 REU, there are 16 chips marked as
>9005 B USA
>MT 1259-12
...stuff deleted...
>I
>may need to (*sniff, sniff*) yank them out temporarily to
>use in an EE project for school.  Any warning, help?

I'm not sure what others will say, but if I were you I would just go out to
radio shack (not as cheap) and buy some of these chips they are not very 
expensive.  Also, what I did when I expanded my REU was order them from some
mail order house advertised in the computer shopper (cheap).  I bought 25 I
think for like $1.85 each but these prices fluctuate and depend on how fast
of memory chips you need.
   The last thing I would do is rip your RAM chips out!  It would only take 
a few days to order them (using credit card) if you can't find them locally.

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From: msmith@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (michael todd smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Missing Instructions, Please Help!
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:29:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov12.042930.18156
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science


    Recently I went out and bought a used copy of Monday Night Football by
Data East.  Unfortunately, it appears that the main manual is missing,
including the password codes.  I am going to go back and check to see if
the dealer has the manual, but if not (and I doubt they do, but it's worth
a try), I need some help.  If anyone has the codes or knows how I can get
them I would really appreciate any help you could give me.  It would be a
great help if someone could give me an address & phone number for Data East.
Also I was wondering if that manual has a playbook, does anyone know?

Thanks in advance,

Michael Smith
msmith@cis.ohio-state.edu
mtsmith@magnusug.ohio-state.edu
From: stlucas@gdwest.gd.com (Joseph St. Lucas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: reu expansion question
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:42:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

I just got the lastest S/W Support Int. catalog and they're selling the
1750 clone (normally $150) for $100 to get 512k ram.  Pretend I added a
bigger power supply to my computer.  This clone says it doesn't need
another supply.  My question before I decide whether or not to even THINK
about this is, Is this unit capable of being expanded beyond its 512k, or
would I be stuck with a half-meg of ram?  Anyone know?

-- 
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General Dynamics Space Systems: our last launch ATTEMPT, Galaxy 1R, leaving
me temporarily at a loss for something witty to say in my signature.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: bigoness@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ray Bigonesse)
Subject: Strategic Conquest clone
Summary:  I need one bad!!
Keywords: Addiction
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: comp.sys.cbm
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:40:32 GMT

Hello all...I'm not sure if this was posted already or not,
but what the hell...
 
A friend of mine with a Mac has a game called Strategic Conquest
that's really cool.  Does anyone know if they made a 64/128
version of this game?  Please let me know by e-mail or whatever..
Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Elite: timeless classic?, definitly !!
From: adcrumpler@npe.isnet.inmos.co.uk
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:20:00 GMT
Organization: Inmos Limited
Nntp-Posting-User: garcias

RE: ELITE: Timeless classic or nostalgia piece ?


I've spent God knows how many hours playing Elite on my
Acorn Electron,  with no colour to speak of, no detail on
anything, and so ssslllooowww  when theres more than two 
or three ships/asteroids/explosions  etc  and yet I keep
on coming back for more. I've never once been bored with it.

BTW  Do any UK readers know where I can get a copy of Elite for 
the C64 ?  I dont see it mentioned in mail order lists and most 
shops here say its been deleted.


Best of luck to all.....

Stan Crumpler (Dangerous)


PS  Galactic Hyperdrive never worked on the Electron version so
I only have one galaxy to play in :-(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: faurote@crchh484.BNR.CA (Joe Faurote)
Subject: Re: Just an idea I had!
Keywords: sampling,assembly
Reply-To: faurote@crchh484.BNR.CA (Joe Faurote)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: comp.sys.cbm
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 18:36:42 GMT

Actually, this has been done before and it's not as difficult as the
last post seemed to suggest.  It's true, for good quality and in order
to reproduce the sample you have to sample at the Nyquist rate of two
times the maximum audio frequency you are expecting, but there's no
reason if you are just trying to reproduce voice that you would really
have to sample over 6 thousand times / second - telephones work on the
principle that voice will not be broadcast over 3 kHz, which works out
o.k. for the majority of users and saves money by using simple twisted
pair wires, but I digress.

The A/D converter in the cassette should be adequate for what you are
doing.  If I remember correctly, the program was written in assembly and
was very small.  You also had the option of how good of quality you wanted
which basically determined the amount of time your sample could be as
the data was stored in RAM.  I believe the article was in RUN or Compute's
Gazette, a long time ago (at least 5-6 years, I'm thinking).  If I can
come up with more specifics, I will repost.

Good-luck,
Joe Faurote
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Crook file on ccosun...
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:32:03 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <imsuTB2w164w@jwt.UUCP>, bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore) writes:
> 
> Whats the problem?  Perhaps when downloaded, the file is picking up X/Y 
> modem padding....A real terminal will allow the user to chop the padding, 
> it's just a point of letting the downloader know about it.

But, how do you let the downloader know??
 
> And changing the end address is no problem either, with BASIC's BSAVE, 
> along with the ML monitor's save.
 
Agreed. But again, getting the information across e.g the address to save
to, is this possible?

Better perhaps to just kill the file... but I can't!

Cheers - Kirk
From: GHIELMET@eldi.epfl.ch (Leopoldo Ghielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 connected to an IBM
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:18:49 GMT
Organization: LGSoftware
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <1992Nov13.204853.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

> A big THANK YOU to the chap who put the x1541.exe program on the system.
> (GHIELMET@eldi.epfl.ch)  I have successfully made up the cable and have
> the program running - 2 way copies from 1541 to IBM! And the program is
> very nicely mouse driven and professional. Am still working out all it's
> features and how to drive it correctly (e.g. all files seem to become
> prg type), but it works and is a wee beauty! So far I have only tried a 1541
> but see mention of 1581 - maybe it supports 1571 and fast serial mode, too?
> 
> Now my PC with a 1541 on top is almost respectable!
> 
> Cheers - Kirk

DE NADA 

Well I forgot to mention it, to make a file with another extention (seq, usr,
rel (not yet supported)) you should gave the correct extention to the IBM file
Eg. *.seq will be transfered as sequential file (seq)

In normal condition 1581 and 1571 have the same mechanism as 1541 but for lack
of documentation I don't implemented the fast serial mode feature.
I made x1541 hacking the serial protocol, I haven't burned a lot of 1541 and
486's, not so bad :-)

ciao, Leopoldo
 

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From: markp@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Mark Puhr)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:26:58 GMT
Subject: Re: GEOS and HP Deskjet 500?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm

In comp.sys.cbm, mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall) writes:


>	A friend is bringing his C64 into town to play with, but before
>he does I'd like to know if there is a printer driver for the Hewlett
>Packard DeskJet or DeskJet 500 in Geos 2.0. 

Use the HP Laserjet driver. I have a Epson FX 80 emulator cartridge in
mine. This makes it compatible with most of the software for the
Commodore.

*******************************************************************************
*  Mark Puhr  *  markp@hpgrla.gr.hp.com  *   Greeley Information Technology   *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: walduck@mpr.ca (Andrew Walduck)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 01:13:44 GMT

Now that we're talking about the old "classics"...I'd love to have some
of them back again...the disks have (over time, and through use) gone
"bad"...

My question is this...are these games still available?? Ie: Can you
still legally buy them??
Games such as:
mule
jumpman, jumpman jr.
and etc.

I suspect that in many cases these games are "out-of-print"...how does
one now go about acquiring them, if the company has gone defunct...
is copying now "fair game"??? 

Andrew

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From: PLOWRY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Connecting with a modem
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:19:02 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, NERDC

I used a VICMODEM 1660 300bps until last year.  The trick is to get a terminal
program that works with it.  If you have a 64 there is a good public domain
term called CGTERM point something, but I don't know where it is posted.  This
terminal works well with it.  Also, some BBSs and Mainframes will not connect
to 300 bps modems (no matter what you do).  Paul
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 10th anniversay of the C=64?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 7154@pimacc.pima.edu, ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu () writes:
>
>The best thing to compare the Apple with is the TRS-80
>model I & III. I would compare the C64 to the various Atari 8-bitters
>that were around back then.

Yeah, the Atari 8-bit machines are a hardware programmer's delight
in the same way that the Amiga and C-64 are.  The plain Apple II,
though very capable machine, is much more vanilla flavored.  The
Atari machines have sprites similar to the Amiga's ("unlimited"
height), allow custom display modes which can be composed of
16 basic modes, built-in support for horizontal and vertical
interrupts, 256 colors to choose from, hardware support for
smooth scrolling, a four voice sound chip, a hardware random
number generator, etc.  A very nice machine--especially considering
it was released in 1979.  Of course, it had its problems too.

But I don't mean to start up the dreaded System Wars again.
Remember all the Apple vs. C-64 vs. Atari junk of the 1980s?
What a waste.  Perhaps the best part of all these machines,
especially in comparison with modern computers, is that _you_
are in control.  You don't have to succumb to the whims of
a company bungling around with a huge operating system.  You
don't have to perform mainframe-like system administration
duties.  It's your machine and you can do what you want.

--
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exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: ad945@yfn.ysu.edu (Brent Busby)
Subject: Re: Trouble with 1084 Monitor
Reply-To: ad945@yfn.ysu.edu (Brent Busby)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:34:31 GMT


In a previous article, hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) says:

>I have a 1084 monitor that has been making quiet crackling sounds,
>sort of like a bowl of Rice Crispies.  I've been told this may be due

I have a C=1084 monitor too on my C=128, and man, if my 1084 started making
noises like that I'd call a bomb squad.  That'd make me NERVOUS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: GEOS
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:45:49 GMT

JDK116@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>I'm looking for some help. I've got a C-128D and I'm running geos. Seems that m
>y disks keep comming up with a 1:27 error on Track 35 sector 0. They are unread
>able in GEOS and only seem to be formatted half way. They are readable in dos.
>Any idea as to what's wrong??? Need help ASAP!!!!!

An I:27 error is a checksum error on the sector.  Apparently this sector
is in an active file and has gone bad.  I suggest you use a non-GEOS
program to disk copy to another disk.  Do not use a nibbler, as this
will keep the error intact.  Use a program which can read sector errors
and correct them on the destination disk.  Fast Hack'Em or Maverick
Quick Copiers will do this, I believe.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi)
Subject: SFX files
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:49:45 GMT


Could a C-128 owner out there fill me in as to what program is used to
create SFX files?  I must get my hands on a copy right quick!

Nick
From: "henry sopko" <henry.sopko@canrem.com>
Subject: wanted: transactor mags
Reply-To: "henry sopko" <henry.sopko@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:23:55 EST

Hello All.
             If anyone has the TRANSACTOR Magazines just laying around
and would like to sell them, drop me a line. I'm interested in getting
ALL the issues if possible. Thanks in advance.

Henry
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Missing C=128 chip???
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:16:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) says:

>     I have two 1985 C=128s and I wuld very much like to have the additional
>chip that the later C=128 and C=128D computers have.  Could anyone tell
>me where might I buy one (or even two)?  My dealer is not even aware of this 
>additional (or was it enhanced) chip that was installed to C=128D and Later
>C=128s.  Thanks.
>      
>                                                     -TKH '92
>
>  
>               
>
If you are looking at the empty socket on your 128s, there is no chip from
Commodore that was made for that socket.  Chips like the KEYDos ROM, or
an Eprom with SERVANT burned onto it, and others go into that socket,
but are 3rd party items.  If you are talking about the 64k video upgrade,
then you can get a text file for your repair center to install it, or
contact Software Support Int'l who used to have a plug in 64k VDC
chip set.  Grapevine Group may also be able to help you.
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From: ba128@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edgar Estrada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Wanted Swiftlink Cart.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 07:37:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I would like to buy a swiftlink Cart. Does anybody have one
for sale?
Please e-mail me.

Edgar

ba128@freenet-in-a.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: Edgar.Estrada@launchpad.unc.edu (Edgar Estrada)
Subject: connect 1541 to an IBM
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:28:12 GMT

Is it possible to connect a 1541 to an IBM?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: khuynh@triton.unm.edu (Kien)
Subject: Help with downloading files from Unix to C-64
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:32:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Help...  I would like to know how to download files from my Unix account
to my faithful 8-year old C-64.  I have an Amiga 500 and a PC that can
be connected to the 64 via a null-modem ?  I would like to know what is
the best method to accomplish this task.  I only have a 300 baud modem
for my C-64 & 2400 on the Amiga, and an Ethernet to the PC.  The Unix
system I have only has Kermit which I cannot stand.  I am thinking...
Would it be possible to transfer programs from an Amiga to the 64 using
X,Y, or Z-modem ?  If so, how ?  
I have a C-64 with a 1541 drive that I may be able to use to read IBM
files possibly ?
Thanks....Kien

Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Subject: Missing C=128 chip???
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:04:14 GMT

     I have two 1985 C=128s and I wuld very much like to have the additional
chip that the later C=128 and C=128D computers have.  Could anyone tell
me where might I buy one (or even two)?  My dealer is not even aware of this 
additional (or was it enhanced) chip that was installed to C=128D and Later
C=128s.  Thanks.
      
                                                     -TKH '92

  
               
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: csbruce@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Craig Bruce)
Subject: Re: 10th anniversary of the C=64?
Originator: csbruce@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo, Canada (eh!)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:00:31 GMT

Yo!

nevs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Sven Goldt) writes:

>This is comp.sys.cbm,a newsgroup about the C64 + C128.
>Fuck Amiga and Fuck Apple.
>Plug your Flash8 into your C64 and it's as fast as an Amiga.
>Plug the new Grafic Card in it and it has more colors than VGA cards.
>Plug a CMD Harddisk in it with Jiffy Dos and you think you
>are sitting at a workstation !

What is "Grafic Card" and where do I get it?  Is it for the 64 or 128?

Keep the Faith!

and

Keep on Hackin'!

-Craig Bruce
csbruce@neumann.uwaterloo.ca
"Fellows' Law: All fixed-size fields are too small."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: sedmanra@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Richard Sedman)
Subject: Re: connect 1541 to an IBM
Organization: Aston University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:13:55 GMT

Edgar.Estrada@launchpad.unc.edu (Edgar Estrada) writes:
: Is it possible to connect a 1541 to an IBM?


Or an old 8040  (I think - dual drive, single sided) - I picked it up a while
back with a CBM Pet.

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From: ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 10th anniversay of the C=64?
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:42:33 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <92310.092811SYST8134@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>, SYST8134@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca writes:
> I think the comparison of the C-64 and any AMIGA computers is like
> comparing Apples (not the computer) and Oranges.
> 
> The C-64 is from a whole different generation of technology.  It is
> easily a programmers machine, or a users machine.
> 
> Certainly the Amiga is more powerful and functional in most every way.
> 
> But it is also much more of a users machine.
> 
> Now, if you want to compare APPLE II computers and C64's as has been done
> ever since they came out around the same time it is C64 hands down,
> especially when bang for the buck enters the conversation.
> 
> The C64 will live on!
> 
> RDB

Well it was actually the Apple //e with the rev.A motherboard that
actually came out about the same time as the C64 (1982). The original
Apple ][ came out in '76 & the Apple ][+ in '79. The big thing about
the Apple was that it <gasp> could output a color signal! That was a
real big deal back in 1976 even though the earliest models only had
4 colors (including B&W!). I think it '77 when the 6 color version
hit the market. The best thing to compare the Apple with is the TRS-80
model I & III. I would compare the C64 to the various Atari 8-bitters
that were around back then.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Kermit 2400 C128 autobooter
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:40:26 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

I've just written a new Kermit autoboot for the 128. This includes a load
of the "kermit24.ml" file and the couple of Pokes involved, as well as 
loading and running the main Kermit file.
If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will put it on ccosun. It is
only useful for 2400 baud operation on the C128.

Cheers - Kirk
From: cdminter@icaen.uiowa.edu (Corey D Minter)
Subject: Re: Turrican II preview - need help
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:06:11 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz) writes:

>Last month someone posted (in uuencoded form) the preview program for the
>commercial game Turrican II.  I d/l'ed it, but I can't seem to get it to work.
>Should the starting address be $0801 or some other address before that?  I
>can't figure out what is going wrong.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanx in advance.

It worked ok for me.  Well if you download even a uuencoded program you should 
still use a error checking protocol (X,Y, blah modem).

The preview of this game is very glitchy, and it screws up randomly.  In fact,
The first time I tried it I got minorly far, but every time I try it now it
screws up earlier.

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