HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Makel)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Stafford, our inside source?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:54:45 GMT
	<Stafford-290992081441@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

John,
  Since we got both others attention, any chance of locating any 1916F
harley parts where you are(61cu. in)? I have the whereabouts of 2 sets
of pan jugs and heads(new), if interested drop me a line. Now as for 
John Warren, never heard of him but do know David Warren,he was a rep for
Harley from Fisherville, Va.but don't know if he is still around, is this
who you are talking about? Now the EVO was an AMF design no doubt about it!
The same crew that worked for AMF in the design and testing are pretty much
the same crew there when the evo when into production some 1-1/2 years later.
From what I hear fuel injection will be available in 94 or 95, also if
you are interested, the dynaglide style frame will be replacing many
models that
have the jap type frame(non tubular), Harley will begin the phase out
in 93 and continue towards the more traditional frames. I too built a few
pan choppers in the early 70's but the hardtail gave one hell of a ride in
the potholes of Pa.and W.Va. where I ride. I presently have a 1916F almost
done, picked it up in a farmers barn in West Virgina for a song and dance.
Also, I am debating the purchase of a 47 indian chief(basket case) for $500
to which all parts are there, from the estate of a defunct Indian Dealer
from Waynesburg, Pa(near the W.Va.) border, I will keep you all posted if the
wife says "NO". I know where you are coming from, a lot of miles, a lot
of work, a lot of tough times, but it was a lot of fun, and I wouldn't
change the way it was......


                                    john...

16f(soon)
78 FX
80 Sturgis
90 XLH1200
92 FLHTC
HOG#0547387
From: jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Makel)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Stafford, our inside source?
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:26:05 GMT
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Stafford,
    I am far from new to the list, have been a subscriber to HD digest
for about 2 years now.  I worked at the Harley Davidson shop in
Washington, Pa. AKA Washington Harley Davidson, I ran parts
and wrenched from 1972-1976,  I also have owned Harleys since 
1969. As far as an inside source, I still have contacts internally
to Harley via the Harley shop. But since you build bikes maybe
your knowledge can be of more benefit than mine, maybe we all
should go out and get a pan and get the shovel top end and chop
it and become an expert like you. It as you stated "would behoove 
you not to assume who is a RUB" my sentiments exactly.  Someday
soon.


			john...

16f(soon)
No Pan here
78 FX
80 Sturgis
90 XLH1200
92 FLHTC
HOG#0547387
From: zaphod@lamar.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Long time mystery
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:42:31 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


The holes do not line up on my '92 Springer either.


Mike
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From: laszlo@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: well i guess this guy showed YOU
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:56:29 GMT


if your going to bother to flame anyone in  alt.fan.dan-quayle be
nice the really aren't up for it ;-)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Article: 5268 of alt.fan.dan-quayle
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From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Royko article: Next Time, Dan, Take Aim At Arnold
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:28:00 GMT

In article <92275.221953KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>The Terminator was a robot whose only purpose in 'life' was to kill stuff
>and be a general a--hole.  Again, not presented as a role model for the kids,
>not presented as a positive character with positive attributes.

	Never saw Terminator II, huh.

	Check out rec.motorcycle.harley somethime, and count how many postings
start with "What kind of bike did arni ride in T-II, and how do I get one?".
I'm sure that they have no interest in dressing head to toe in black leather
and sunglasses, right?

Schwartzenegger, Steven Segal, Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris - these guys
are heros because the can kick the shit out of the bad guys. It's about
macho violence, strong men defending their families and stomping evil
without the burden of a bunch of liberal political restrictions. Role
models? You bet.

-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
  "[Ronald Reagans] support of George Bush is absolutely not as lukewarm
  and halfhearted as it appears"  -- Ed Meese 1992


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
have fun

laz
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From: afinlayson@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Wobble at 70mph+
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:31:03 GMT

In article <452.498.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us>, jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel)  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Afinlayson@kean.ucs.mun. * Things to check  or have checked: 1. steering
>                            head bearings = = =
> 
> 
>   Thanks..  will  check  these  items  out.  I  just  adjusted the chain
>   recently so that will be my first  place to look. What is the best way
>   to  check and  see if  the front   and rear  wheel are  'true' to  one
>   another?
> ---
>  * SM 1.06 A0059 * You do not convert a man by silencing him
>                            

The *best* way is with a 6 foot steel straight edge held against the tire
sidewalls just below the axels or as high up on the wheels as you can get
without bumping into stuff.  Alternatively, you can use a length of string
wrapped once around the leading edge of the front wheel and pulled straight
back on both sides of the bike and held tight.  Having an extra set of 
hands around when you do this helps a lot.  A bit of offset, i.e. the
rear tire not running in exactly the same track as the front, is OK and
is probably a design compromise.  But the plane of the two wheels must
be perfectly parallel or handling suffers.  Chris Finlayson
From: dbooth@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (david booth)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:47:53 GMT
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley

Yep, I'd be interested in finding out how I can further improve the
cornering capabilities of my '86 1100 Sportster. At the moment its all
stock standard and handles reasonably well, but there is always room
for improvement.

Regards

DB
From: laut@keego.gici.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Regarding Fringe (iconoclast)
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:05:32 GMT
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.

In article <1687483D9.DHANSEN@cmsa.gmr.com>, DHANSEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.150240.25047@ncsu.edu>
> bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu (Brian Casper) writes:
>>
> (stuff deleted)
>>
>>Try as I might, I can't come up with beneficial purpose for fringe...
>>

I can.  At the end of yet another day of political correctness,
nothing restores my soul like getting "the looks" when I'm tooling
down the highway on my Softail Custom, dressed out in full black
leathers, with all that fringe flappin' in the breeze.  Sigh...

It surely beats the hell out of the monkey suit I wear to work...   ;-) 


-- 
Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321

"Usual disclaimers, apply within"
From: grubb@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary A. Grubb)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:11:16 GMT
Subject: 1981 FXWG forsale
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley

/ hpcc01:alt.motorcycles.harley / grubb@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary A. Grubb) / 12:10 pm  Sep 28, 1992 /
For Sale:

1981 FXWG 80in. shovelhead
Fatbob tanks
Lots of chrome
Spoke wheels
New tires



Gary Grubb
Hewlett-Packard
Model Shop
San Jose, Ca.

gary@hpoemta.sj.hp.com
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From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Long time mystery
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 16:48:33 GMT

>Why don't the pad-lock holes on the forks and the frame line up 
>when the bike is on its side-stand? These 1/2" holes miss aligning
>by at least 1/4",...

     This is a function of lean angle and steering geometry. The
hole is placed to bring the fork close to a full lock turn. The
natural turn angle of the fork varies with the sidestand length,
suspension length at rest, rake angle, and pavement slope. The
tire size and profile has a profound effect. My '76 has a 9"
extended fork and it usually lines up ok.

Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Never trust anyone in a cage, if they weren't nuts
    they'd be on a scoot like anybody else."
                        Grandmother
=============================================================




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From: jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey)
Subject: Re: Sportster Crotch Rocket??!!
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:43:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.191025.10105@megatek.com>, randy@ninja.megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep30.033158.769@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
...
|> |the 1200 bore job.  Get a bigger gas tank - you won't want to stop
|> |for a LONG time :-) And don't act too surprised when you catch up
|> |with those GSXRs and Ninjas on any road with a few twists in it.
|> 
|>   And don't be surprised that they were loafing along, and blow your doors
|> off when they turn up the throttle, for 1/2 of what you just spent hopping
|> up the Sportster...  (Sorry, Jeff).
|> 
|> Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
|> ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
|> DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

I won't be, it just hasn't happened in a few years of riding.  Why would those
GSXRs have been loafing in the Cabo 1000 I was in?  On the straights, yes, 
they could run away and hide, and it was hard work reeling them back in 
through the curvy stuff  - but well worth doing :-)  They will continue to
blow my doors off, since the only vehicle I have with doors is a VW diesel
Dasher.  I can still smoke 'em, however ;-)

$1K GSXR? hmmmmm..., for that, I might consider one.  At least I hear they
have decent wheels and a good front end.  And when the Dasher's motor 
finally dies I can swap in the gixer's.  Shouldn't add *too* much weight.

-tfk  "not sorry in the slightest"

P.S.  Always glad to hear from you Randy, but aren't you kind of 
      slumming it here?
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From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley,alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Regulator vs. battery question
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:19:49 GMT
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

--
<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.comIn article <9flp02X2233c01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>,
efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger) writes:
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|>From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
|>Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley,alt.motorcycles.harley
|>Subject: Regulator vs. battery question
|>Message-ID: <9flp02X2233c01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
|>Date: 25 Sep 92 20:05:47 GMT
|>Sender: netnews@ccc.amdahl.com
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|>
|>Howdy all. Gotta question about charging ststems (our FAVORITE topic)
|>
|>Given a late model evo big twin ('86 Softail), and knowing that the 
|>regulator is in parallel with the battery, if my regulator is 
|>overcharging my battery, will a voltage measurement accross the 
|>battery (with the regulator hooked up obviously) show >> 12 volts 
|>(like >15V), or does the battery win the "fight" between 'em and 
|>pull the voltage down (and then boil away)?? If the regulator is 
|>puttin' out 18V, will I see that (or like 16-17) over the battery?? 
|>Inquiring minds, etc.
|>
|>Thanx, Eddie

While technically the regulator is in parallel with the battery, this analogy
isn't a good one. The regulator is really a rectifier/regulator, since the
stator/rotor generates AC. Think of the output of the regulator as a 
voltage source, and the battery as a current source. Once the current
demands exceed the ability of the battery to source them, the regulator
tries to keep the voltage up.

Maximum voltage from the regulator is 15V. Anything more than that and
you've got a regulator with a bad high side. Measuring the voltage at the
battery '+' terminal is effectively measuring the regulator output, since
the regulator output lead is connected to the battery '+' terminal.

This is the charging system check that will tell you most of what you need
to know, using a simple voltmeter across the battery.

ignition off			12V
ignition on			12V
ignition on, low beam on		>11.5V
ignition on, starter engaged		>8V
engine running, idle		12V-14V
engine running, 2500 rpm		13.5V-15V
engine running, >2500 rpm		<15V
engine running, turn low beam on	dip and recover 
engine running, turn high beam on	dip and recover
engine running, high beam on, idle	>12V
engine running, high beam on, >2500	13.5V-15V

CdH
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Sportster Hop-up & Winter Storage
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:33:50 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Sep29.200610.14472@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:
>Sportsters sure are getting a lot of attention, lately...
>
>As many of you might remember, my BIL (Brother-In-Law) has the
>'92 XLH1200 Sportster.  He gave me his old bike to do what I want
>with.  Anyway, I've told him about rec.motorcycles.harley, and
>he asked me to find out about 2 things:
>
> 1) Recommendations on getting better performance from his
>    bike.  He has drag pipes on it, and is thinking about 
>    doing some more modifications to it.  Any suggestions
>    as to what would be the next step, such as a jet kit,
>    or new carb, cam, ignition, along with specific aftermarket
>    suppliers would be appreciated.  Also, if someone would
>    care to comment on the best "performance increase/dollar"
>    and/or the best order in which to do specific hop-ups
>    would also be appreciated.
>

Just after I bought my bike, I read a test review in EasyRiders mag that
said the best bang-for-the-buck XLH-1200 hop up was first to lose the
stock exhaust(you already have drag pipes), replace the electronic ignition
and coil (the rev limiter on the stock ignition module sucks) with the Screamin
Eagle parts, put on the Screamin Eagle breather/air filter, and rejet the
stock carb. A bigger carb would probably help but would be pricey. Everyone
I talked to says leave the stock cams in since the extra performance isn't
really worth the dollars unless you intend to race it and need the extra
edge for competition. In my own experience, I only have the drag pipes on mine
so far which gave enough high rpm power increase to get a 2nd gear short
wheelie when I shift at WFO. Also I noticed mine seems to run out of fuel
flow at 112-115 MPH well before the stock rev limiter kicks in. My next step
will be the new ignition module and coil and do some mods to allow more volume
of fuel to run from tank to carb bowl and rejet the stock carb.
<--------------------------------------------------------------------->
< Neal Howard                         | '91 Harley Sportster XLH-1200 >
< email: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org     | DoD # 686                     >
< CompuTrac, Inc. (Richardson, TX)    | '69 Cougar XR7-GT390          >
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: tomw@stephanie.megatek.com (Tom Wright)
Subject: Long time mystery
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:00:52 GMT

I've owned a couple of Sportsters, a '48 Panhead (last of the old
springers) and now have a Heritage Special.

One thing about HDs has always puzzled me...

Why don't the pad-lock holes on the forks and the frame line up 
when the bike is on its side-stand? These 1/2" holes miss aligning
by at least 1/4", so it doesn't seem to be an accident. About all
it does that I can see is make it impossible to put on the lock 
with one hand. You have to use the other (or your foot or something)
to push the forks/wheel to a slightly straighter position.

If anyone knows of any constructive, positive aspect of this, I'd
like to hear about it. Then I could think about something positive
when going through the twice a day (at least) struggle of putting
on the lock.

Thanks. 
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From: david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin)
Subject: re: Long Time Mystery
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:28:34 GMT

The padlock holes on my 1979 XLCH line up perfectly. So dont blame AMF blame 
different model designs and quality control.

			Keep it upright
			Dave
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
David Watkin  79 XLCH                            Internet: D.Watkin@uws.EDU.AU
Technical Officer                                    Phone: +61 45 70 1446
University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury               Fax: +61 45 88 5867
RICHMOND  NSW  2753
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From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Wobble at 70mph+
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:59:57 GMT

jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel) writes:
>  Another problem I  seem to be having with my  sporty is that at speeds
> in excess of 70+mph the  front-end starts wobbling terribly. The tires
>  are fairly  new and don't  show any wierd  wear patterns. I  do have a
>  windshield on. Suggestions  would be appreciated as it  makes the bike
>  almost impossible to control.

Jim,

A wobble like you describe deserves your immediate attention: 70 MPH isn't
very fast, even for a Sportster. Further, that bike has somewhat conservative
steering geometry so it shouldn't shake its head at all, especially in a
straight line. Something's definitely wrong.

Sometimes a fork-mounted windshield can induce wobble. Remove it and take the
bike up to speed (carefully) to see if it is the cause. If so, you may need to
try a different shield.

It also wouldn't hurt to have the front wheel checked for balance and the tire
inspected for defects (is there a bubble spot? is the bead seated properly?)
If you didn't have a wobble before you fitted the new tire I'd be mighty
suspicious of it. If there's any doubt at all, swapping the tire is cheap
insurance against disaster.

While you've got the front wheel in the air, check the steering head bearings
for play. Check the swingarm for play too if the bike's on a work stand. Check
if the back wheel is aligned properly in the swingarm (this is critical not
only for chain/belt life but for handling too.)

Finally, make sure that the fork/shock damping hasn't gone away.

You need to get on top of this thing pronto! Don't delay!


-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
DoD #0x451
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Subject: Re: Regarding Fringe
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:04:27 GMT

stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>fringe also serves to keep flies off -- the motion of the fringe
>in the wind or through casual motions shoos them off. it also
>blurs the outline of the body which helps one blend into the
>environment.

Would this effect affect the effectiveness of radar gun totin'
Donut-Eaters? Is this some new(old) stealth technology?  Would 
your fringe benefits be negated by yer fully-faced helmut? or 
might the long hair flying out the back negate that negation?

Enquiring minds just want to post their new motorcycle in the .sig...

chad sandstrom  '93 FLSTN (can Yoo say Mooo?)
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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: FXSTS
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:16:24 GMT

In article <Oct02.161844.33862@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, zaphod@lamar.ColoState.EDU writes:
> Are there any truths to the rumors of problems with the springer
> front ends?  I haven't had any and I just keep hearing this?

They sure are!  You ride that sucker in the rain and you'll be cleaning and
waxing for hours.  Buy lots of Q-tips for those tight places...

- Roid
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From: afinlayson@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Wobble at 70mph+
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:55:20 GMT

In article <467.498.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us>, jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel)  writes:
> 
> 
>    I  would  like  to  say  thanks  to  all  that helped with the wobble
>    problem. After  adjusting the windshield  back and making  sure it is
>    relatively even all the way around  the problem is corrected. This is
>    something I should of checked.. (always  look at the obvious <G>) and
>    I thank the many folks that responded in a helpfull way.
> ---
>  * SM 1.06 A0059 * Be vewy, vewy quiet....I am hunting tagwines!
>                         

Amen on the *obvious*.  A very wise wrench once told me that the
proper way to approach a problem was always from the simplest and
least expensive explanation.  Another indelible piece of advice:
when I was confronted with a recalcitrant nut or bolt, it had been
my habit to reach for my cheapest rachets and sockets.  "No,"
said he.  "Use the Craftsmans.  If you might break a tool, always
break a guaranteed tool."  Flawess advice.
Cheers! Chris Finlayson

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From: afinlayson@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: <None>
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:07:41 GMT

Heh, I'm new to the group and I've posted a few in the last week or so
but all based upon my 20 + year's experience with mostly British and
German bikes with the odd Japanese addition: mostly 305 Superhawks 
and Scramblers...a few early Hodakas and Suzuki triples.  But my question
is: do any of you lot have any interest/experience with modifying
Sportsers into satisfying corner carvers?  Not GSXR or Ninja beaters,
neccessarily, but just something better than, say, a stock BMW or
Triumph. Cheers! Chris Finlayson
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From: edm@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (edward.morandi)
Subject: EVO Compression question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:36:01 GMT

Anybody know what the compression should be, in pounds, for
a warmed-up, healthy 80" EVO motor?  Shop manual only gives minimums
and acceptable variation.

Thanks,
Ed Morandi
attmail!emorandi
'89 FXRS
No .sig, standard disclaimer.
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