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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Falling in Love
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:48:00 GMT

In article <40614@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> wa137@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (john e. clark) writes:
>In article <Bx6zHq.Ar7@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>+
>+Monogamy   Mild Polygyny   Moderate Polygyny   Extreme Polygyny
>+Gibbons    Humans          Gorillas            Elephant seals
>+1:1        1.2:1           2:1                 3:1
>+
>+The ratios are male:female weight.
>
>So this would give credence to polyandry arguements, i.e. more than
>one man for each woman... But how does this prove 'mild polygyny'.

When I wrote "weight," I meant mass times acceleration due to gravity.

You deleted my earlier paragraph in which I had said that mild polygyny
in humans was indicated by sexual dimorphism.  You appear not to understand
what sexual dimorphism is.  It's a consistent difference in body form 
between the males and females of a species apart from the basic functional
portions of the sex organs.  One of the most obvious and easily measurable
aspects of sexual dimorphism is overall body size, e.g., weight.  As an
example, the average weight of a male human is 162 pounds while that of the
average female human is 135 pounds.  Ergo, a ratio of 1.2:1.  The relationship
between sexual dimorphism and polygyny is well known to zoologists.

However, even among elephant seals the optimal sexual population ratio is
still 1:1 (males:females) despite the fact that 4% of the males account for
88% of the copulations.  And, indeed, there are lots of frustrated bachelors.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory
From: fks@vax.ftp.com  (Frances K. Selkirk)
Subject: Re: I may be, SO isn't
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: fks@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:43:47

In article <val.721167342@marsh> val@cs.curtin.edu.au (Foxy Lady) writes:
>    
>  Arianne has hit the nail on the head. For me, being with other people 
>  felt very comfortable, but my SO couldn't handle it. I had to work out 
      
I had a chat, this weekend, with the only person with whom I have ever
attempted a mono relationship (It was over ten years ago - we're
reasonably friendly again by now :-). He describes himself as a "slut"
(i.e., he wants most women he meets) but is only comfortable in exclusive
relationships, probably because he is _very_ jealous, and can't live with
an obvious double standard. He says his current marriage is good because
his current wife is just as jealous. (His ex-wife was poly, which he
couldn't take (thus the ex-).) We sort of made vague accepting noises at
each other, mostly about how pairings of jealous people work, and pairings
of non-jealous people work, because the desires and expectations of the
people involved are in synch.

On an emotional level, of course, we both still think the other is 
nuts...  :-)  :-)  :-)

			-Francie


Frances Kirk Selkirk		 fks@ftp.com	           (508) 685-3600
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Xref: sparky alt.polyamory:1732 alt.romance:13848 soc.singles:30244 alt.sex:35511 alt.pagan:12637
From: moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne)
Subject: Not sure if this belongs here, but...
Reply-To: moh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:58:35 GMT

Hope y'all don't mind poetry....it seemed appropriate.

*****

Stable Configuration

Secure in muscled arms, I dream of green,
That glows from deep-set eyes.  You are so far;
I stifle longing cries.  He is no bar;
Desire an ache he thinks I have not seen.

Without your touch, I find that we are lost.
You the stable point that we revolve 
Around.  Yours the strength and firm resolve
Among the splendor of our lightnings tossed.

So we whirl within our reckless dance;
Our arms and legs entwined, our lips match lips.
But missing are your arms, your breasts, your hips;
Such cold futility in every glance.

We told you go, so far and free to roam.
We were so wrong.  Forgive us, love, come home.

*****

M.A. Mohanraj
November 12, 1992

*****

A bit of an intro....I'm 21, an English major, bisexual, uncommitted
to anyone at the moment, vaguely involved with various people, a
proponent of Joe's model of 'independent' polyamorous relationships
(see, you're not alone), an intermittent poster on soc.bi, so some of
you might recognize me, known by various names, eg. Kateri, Mary Anne,
etc, female, Sri Lankan, agnostic, a writer of voluminous amounts of
poetry, most of which you'll have to go to rec.arts.poetry to see.

Not necessarily in that order.

And hiya to all of my soc.bi, alt.callahans friends who I find
here...why am I not surprised? :-)

 - Kateri
-- 
More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads.  One
path leads to despair and utter hopelessness.  The other to total
extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.
						 - Woody Allen
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From: Lubosh <Lubosh.Hanuska@anu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.pagan
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:16:30 GMT
Organization: ANU Canberra
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:15:29 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov7122808@grover.cs.unc.edu> Charles R. Martin,
martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu writes:
>It's odd how different Eastern European ideas of politeness are -- at
>least in the lower classes, as the Hungarian part of my family was.
>Apparently, "swearing" was much more acceptable.  For example, I really
It just shows how little the Americans know about Eastern Europe... I am
Slovak myself, and I think historically the Czechs were the most polite
nation around there. They had learned to swear from Slovaks, and Slovaks
learned it from Hungarians when they rushed their wild horses into the
area from Asian prairies... That's why swearing of all kinds is in the
very tradition of Hungarians, and they never take over any substitutes
from other languages (your grandma had her own words for everything, and
she needed it - she had much larger dictionary of swearing than the
English language probably has), or if they do they just add it to their
own vocabulary... (if they want the non-Hungarians to understand).
I'm sorry to divert from the original topic... :-)
Lubosh
From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Re: Third Party Poll Results: Actions You Can Take
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:26:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <Nov.4.16.56.20.1992.8547@math.rutgers.edu>, cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
|> 
|> I scored at least one modest success.  The Monmouth County election
|> clerk assured me that independent candidates' results would be passed
|> to the media along with the major party candidates' results during the
|> next election.
|> 

What makes you think you scored anything at all??

A: That Clerk may not even hold that position by then.
B: Now that you have hung up the phone, he is not bound to do anything.
C: He was a politician, trained in coming up with the right answer to get
   someone off his back.
His probable assumption is that you will have forgotten the whole thing by
the next election anyway.  After all, youe did "read his lips", right??

bill

-- 

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Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Subject: our wedding
Reply-To: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:10:58 EST

I'm looking for a title called our wedding. Has anyone ever heard of it
? I'm looking for stuff with specific themes
ex:weddings,christmas,parties,baptizms etc . I'm running an amiga 1000
with 1.5 megs . Any help would be great .
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: budnick@cc.utah.edu
Subject: Re: proselytism
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Distribution: q
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:11:07 MDT

In article <1992Nov8.192210.1866@panix.com>, 
baucum@panix.com (Bill Baucum) writes:
>  
>          This newsgroup has been  filled  with  both  libertarian  and
>          Libertarian debate.  
> 
>          Purely for discussion I ask whether individualism and 
>          proselytism are compatible?
>          
>          Bill Baucum at Independence California  baucum@panix.com
> 

Without a l(L)ibertarian society, individualism is merely a concept.
So, although I understand your philosophical point, I see voluntary
debate, and even proselytising for libertarianism as entirely
compatible with individualism.

However, if I had achieved a complete state of "individualist," I 
wouldn't be writing this right now, would I?

Paradox!  Brain cramp!

Peter Budnick
<budnick@me.mech.utah.edu>
 
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
From: baucum@panix.com (Bill Baucum)
Subject: proselytism
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:22:10 GMT
Distribution: q
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

 
         This newsgroup has been  filled  with  both  libertarian  and
         Libertarian debate.  

         Purely for discussion I ask whether individualism and 
         proselytism are compatible?
         
         Bill Baucum at Independence California  baucum@panix.com
From: c3q@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.individualism
Subject: Interesting thread on sci.crypt
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:55:33 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University


There's an interesting thread 'Registering "Assault Keys"' on sci.crypt that may
interest the average reader of this group.

     - Travis J.I. Corcoran
       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu

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Like a government, the operating system performs no useful function by
itself.  It simply provides an environment within which other programs can
do useful work.

     _Operating System Concepts_, 3rd edition
     Silberschatz, Peterson, Galvin

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From: metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler)
Newsgroups: alt,alt.butt-keg.marmalade,alt.smouldering.dog.zone,soc.college
Subject: Re: Tipper
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:01:58 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Department of Physics
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov10.063952.18759@nmt.edu>, ivey@nmt.edu (Hurkamur Platterflutterski) writes:
|> I need to know Tipper Gore's real first name.  I need to know by
|> Wednesday!  I challenge you to answer this query, don't disappoint me!
|> 
|> -tom

Isn't it Kil?
From: dhi00@ccc.amdahl.com (mofo )
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: taframpton talk box
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:17:22 GMT
Reply-To: dhi00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (mofo )
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

i designed and built a circuit that would modulate a guitar and voice
together hoping to get either a frampton sound or the galactica storm
trooper sound.  unfortunately, i got neither.  the box worked but
because the modulation effectively shifts the frequencies around, they
lose their harmonic relationship.  it ends up sounding more like weird
sound effects and has little musical value.  

whatever method they used for the "talking synth" sounds was more 
involved than my simple sig * sig setup.

d
From: marc@owlnet.rice.edu (Marc Bennett Hirsh)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Solo Acoustic Guitar
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:03:26 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1df24rINNelv@aludra.usc.edu>, rmurphy@usc.edu (Bob Murphy) writes:
|> My favorite music is usually just solo acoustic guitar.
|> I unfortunately don't know of many albums like this.
|> I have occasionally bought albums which seemed to contain only guitar
|> but would in reality have lots of other instruments as well.
|> Could someone post a list of possibilities with the type of music(i.e.
|> jazz, folk, blues, etc.) and short reviews included?
|> I prefer instrumental but feel free to include those with a single
|> voice as well.

You'll get plenty of Tuck & Patti suggestions (I'd look for "Love Warriors" first,
great "Little Wing/Castles Made of Sand" medley), but those have a female
vocalist. You'll get suggestions for Michael Hedges, who sometimes sings, but
usually doesn't. 

Now, here's my suggestion that perhaps nobody else will give. Look for "Home and
Away" by Clive Gregson and Christine Collister. This is one of my favorite albums 
of all time. Clive plays guitar and sings, Christine just sings. All songs have
vocals on them, but they are INCREDIBLE. The man is brilliant.  Am I the only 
one to have heard this album? If you like guitar, if you love acoustic guitar
and want to hear a man expanding the possibilities of his instrument, listen to
this album.

-- 
Marc Hirsh (marc@owlnet.rice.edu)

"`Lord loves a working man, don't trust whitey, see a doctor, get rid of it,' got it."
   --- snappy end-of-file sign-off quote from The Jerk, a movie

\ /
 ^ --- ugly red source of all evil, a demon
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From: iglesias@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Immaculada Iglesias)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: spanish guitar for sale
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:36:51 GMT
Reply-To: iglesias@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Immaculada Iglesias)
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley



Classical Spanish guitar for sale.
New and completely hand-made.

Contact Luis Goya at (510) 643 2769, 8pm-11pm
or write e-mail to iglesias@euler.Berkeley.EDU
for more information. Do no reply to this 
newsgroup.
From: Lerxst@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Lerxst)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: GK Questions...
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:06:28 EDT
Organization: The QuBE BBS

Hi there!

I have a GK 250ml as well.  Probably the best amp I've ever used.  They
don't make that model anymore (I don't know when they stopped).  However,
they have put out some alternate lines that come close.  The info I have
here was from Guitar Player's Buyers Guide 92-93.

Theses are the ones closest to the 250ml:

Backline 100     $599
100 watt guitar combo with one 12" speaker.  Three channels:Clean, Crunch
and Lead.  Two eq's, eq shift, fat, presence, spring reverb, cabinet
simulator.  Available with a Celestion speaker for $679.

ML260E-260
Micro-Lead Combo       $999
Ultra-compactr guitar combo with two-by-70 watts stereo power, stereo
chorus and stereo reverb and twin 6.5" speakers.

ML260E-208
Mico-Lead Comb0       $1,189
Similar to the ML260E-206, but with twin 8" speakers.

The listing of the various heads run from $599 for the ML120S to $839 for
the ML260E Micro Lead Head.

(Ooops, the second one should be ML260E-206!)

Later....
Don

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Don Douglas
Lerxst@qube.ocunix.on.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: What does Mark Knopfler use?
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:15:43 GMT

Paul N Edwards (pedwards@Csli.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: 
: Does anyone know what kind of equipment Mark Knopfler uses now,
: and/or what he used on the first Dire Straits album?

	For the On Every Street tour : 

	guitars

	Pensa-Suhr w/EMGs, flame top
	Pensa-Suhr black, spare
	Rudi Pensa prototype strat
	Fender Strat white, according to some interview, Schecter w/fake
	             spaghetti logo
	Schecter strat red, former main axe
	Schecter tele red
	Gibson Les Paul Std for Bros. in arms + Money for nothing
	1953 Gibson Super 400 natural, alnico pickups
	1936 National style O 14-fret
	Ramirez classical


	amps/rack

	two Soldano heads, Pete Cornish modified
	4x12 Marshall cabs w/EV spkrs
	Sony wireless
	TC 2290 delay
	Alesis Quadraverb
	Boss CE300 SuperChorus
	Zoom 9010
	rackmounted CryBaby w/fixed setting

	source : Guitar Player June '92

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Subject: Re: Kings X guitar sound..
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:43:59 GMT


That's not what he said in his interview with GFTPM that I posted last week.
The amp is a Gibson.
--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: neck trouble
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:26:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

In article <evh5150.720866644@camelot> evh5150@camelot.bradley.edu (Andrew Eckhart) writes:
>
>In <1992Nov3.190556.361@iex.uucp> mikek@neptune.iex.com (Mike Keilhofer) writes:
>>I've got a Washburn electric guitar with wear spots on the fingerboard
>>between the frets. Some are bad enough to cause intonation problems.
>
>How in the world is the wear BETWEEN the frets effecting your intonation.
>It's only the distance between them and the height of the frets themselves
>that effect the intonation... that is unless for some odd reason the wear
>spots are effecting the fret distances.

Perhaps he's pressing too hard on the strings making his notes go sharp.
(Very easy to do on a scalloped fretboard.)  If that's the case, he'll
need to alter his technique...

David.
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Xref: sparky alt.guitar:9845 comp.music:5197
From: kamartin@quads.uchicago.edu (kai anthony martin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,comp.music
Subject: COMPUTER MUSIC NOVICE NEEDS HELP
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Hello again,

	I don't think I phrased my last posting very clearly, so let me ask my
question in a different form.  I am a guitarist who is looking for a package
of equipment in which I can compose guitar music on my computer, and play it 
back through the computer.  This brings up two specific questions:

	1) Can I do this using a normal electric guitar?  If so, what 
	   equpiment do I need to do this?

	2) How close will (or can) the end product (being the music composed on
	   the computer be to my live guitar sound coming from my amp?

I'd also like to know, if posssible, how much such a set-up would cost me.
Please  post replies, or send them to: kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu.  Thanks 
in advance.

			-Kai Martin (kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu)


===============================================================================
                         Kai A. Martin, Esquire
            Undergraduate student, Mathematics & Computer Science
                         University of Chicago

             "One who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be, and
	      to hide myself from one is wrong for me."

			-Alice in Chains, "Dirt"
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: oper@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: looking for info on Mesa's S.O.B.
Reply-To: oper@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:03:14 GMT

the local music shop has a new Mesa Boogie S.O.B. (Son Of Boogie). It's small,
has one speaker (10 or 12"), 2 big tubes (el34's ?), and a light tan leather?
covering. Anybody played through one of these? Care to comment??

Terry

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: what's the deal with CRATE amps?
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:00:37 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies

In article <009631D9.61A584A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>I'm looking for a good tube amp. The store here has CRATE amps. Any comments?
>

I don't know about their tube products, but I surprised myself and
bought a GC130XL stack (actually a head with 2 2x12 stereo cabintets,
although they also make Marshall-like 4x12 slant cabinets) last
January - no regrets. 

The reason I say I surpised myself was because I had the money in
pocket and went out to buy a Mesa Boogie MKIV head with a 2x12 or 4x12
bottom. I auditioned the MKIV's - eh. I had been a previous Boogie
fan,and it DID have a fabulous sweet clean tone, but I spent over 20
minutes trying to dial in a delicious distortion. Never got a sound I
liked (note: I find this typical of Boogie... it's hard to get the
sound you want, but when you do - it's THERE. Locktite the knobs in
place).

I also tried Fender, Carvin, Yamaha (Soldano), Marshall, and and
assortment of rack heads/power amp combinations.

The net result on the GC130XL... It's LLOOUUDD. It's got the punchiest
clean sound I've ever heard. The distortion is very good, although I'd
recommend using an external EQ (or Quadraverb, etc.) to really dial it
in. The built in chorus is also good, as is the traditional
Accutronics spring reverb pan (most amp makers use these).

If you're looking for a bluesy/edgey distortion, this might be a bit
of a challenge, although I have gotten some very good approximations.
All in all, I think Crate has really stepped out of the shadows in the
past couple of years. I'm glad I let my ears do the shopping, rather
than let 'conventional wisdom' dictate my purchase.

Pete Lyall

-- 
Pete Lyall [USWest]        Compuserve: 76703,4230   Internet: plyall@uswest.com
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I'm glad I had to wait a while, A little bit too juvenile,     |Sweet Potato Pie
I needed to refine my style - A silver suit, and a crocodile smile| James Taylor
From: kflynn@smiley.helios.nd.edu (kelly flynn)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Hollowbody Electric For Sale
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:26:37 GMT
Reply-To: kflynn@smiley.helios.nd.edu (kelly flynn)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Could whoever it was that was posting the notice of the hollowbody for sale,
(It was a washburn, I believe)  eith e-mail me or re post.  I'm interested, but
lost your address.
From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Gibson Explorer
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:07:30 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>The only problem is, I only know two things about the explorer.  James 
>Hetfield plays on one, and that it is a beautiful axe in an ugly type of
>way (hmm... did that make sence?)
>

Good luck finding an original...

But there are reissues of the Explorer from 400 to anywhere around 550
for a new one. I know it has 2 dirty finger pickups .


merlin
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