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From: fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Re: Am 1330 in Boston.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unixland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:42:58 GMT


>[Moderator's Note:  What has happened to the 1330 spot?  I heard (from you)
>that it was sold for $10,000!!!  Gee, wish I had known :-).  Also, have you
>gotten your net access problem figured out?]


WRCA was apparenly not sold, just had a portion of its ownership
transferred within the group that owns it.  It continues to run leased-time
programs, largely Haitian Creole and Spanish.  WRCA is one of only
two AM stereo stations in the area.  WBZ is the other. Both 1510 WSSH and
1150 WMEX have dropped it.  I don't understand why WMEX did, since it
simulcasts its stereo FM, 106.7 WMJX.  WMJX's backup transmitter
is located at the WMEX site (along Route 2 on the Lexington-Belmont
line), and there is therefore a stereo program feed to that site.  
Perhaps the stereo generator there broke, and the engineer has been
listening to what John Higdon has been saying about AM stereo?

As for net access, I expect to be moving to world.std.com ... more 
details to follow.

Scott Fybush -- fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us



Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: FM and/or TV translator:
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:20:21 GMT



How much does it typically cost to install a FM and
TV translator setup?  I know the FCC application is
currently $475.  Is there a used equipment market one
could tap into for hardware?

Ron
AK0N

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: rob woiccak <REWOICC%ERENJ.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:58:40 GMT

cpack@wang.com (Chris Pack) sez:
>Anybody out there know anything about Joe Frank?

his show is produced at kcrw in santa monica in cooperation with public
radio. the show is available to stations as well as individuals, but i
do not have an address to contact.

for those of you in the nyc-northern nj area, you can tune him in at 6pm
on mondays on 91.1 fm wfmu and wnyc 93.9 fm also broadcasts the show in
a midnight slot on fridays, i believe. the show is basically one hour of
stream-of-consciousness monologue which is quite interesting. i'll try
and get an address when i can.

rob -- rewoicc@erenj.bitnet

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: barothwe@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com
Subject: NPR's Rider's In the Sky
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:30:59 GMT


	Has there been any discussion here regarding "Rider's In the Sky"?
My son (and I, to a lesser degree) has really become interested in this
radio show. 

Is there a net mailing list?

Thank you,

Bruce

===============================================================================
  Bruce Rothwell                            \ /~~~~~~\     Opinions expressed
  barothwe@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com         X        )    are mine, but they
  Rockwell Int'l - CCA                      / \______/     might be shared by

  Cedar Rapids, IA 	                                        multitudes !!
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Tape Delays
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:47:57 GMT


In article <1992Dec12.084429.4996@gagme.chi.il.us> Loren Omoto
<73407.3110@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>
>The two-Ampexes-and-a-hunk-of-tape method is a good one, and can also be done
>by putting a full supply reel on one machine and the take up reel on another
>(keeps from wearing out the same 7-, 10- or 20-second loop).  You should be
>sure to put empty reels on the two "unused" spindles though, and stick a
>pencil or something in the flanges so they don't turn, otherwise those
>energetic Ampex reel motors can burn themselves up pretty quickly.

Hmm... how about installing a switch to cut the reel motors off, or using
something like the Revox A77.  I've always wondered what the reel motor
cutoff switch on the A77 was useful for...

>At one time, there was also a cart-based system that was being marketed by
>someone (Spotmaster?) in the early 80's.  It consisted of a cart recorder
>with an extra playback head and erase head added just BEFORE the record
head.

There were a bunch of companies that made these things; I know there was an
option for the Tapecaster machine to do this.  You might even be able to get
a new model from Tapecaster if you were desperate enough.  Yes, Tapecaster is
still around, believe it or not, and still selling the same (rotten) machines
that they sold twenty years ago.
--scott

	
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us (William Pfeiffer)
Subject: Need address/phone number for KGAY
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:07:28 GMT

Who has the address and/or phone number for the all-gay satellite radio
service out of Denver?

Please e-mail it to me.  Someone sent it, but I must have deleted
it accidentally.

Thanks  William

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: A.Cotroneo@it12.bull.it (Alfredo Cotroneo)
Subject: Re: What is the address for SWL mailing list?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:03:47 GMT

Bill Pfeiffer writes :
>
>Can someone e-mail me the address for the mailing list
>which echos rec.radio.shortwave?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Bill
>


This is the info file everyone gets when he/she subscribes to the SWL-L list.

To join the list send a message to LISTSERV@OHSTVMA.BITNET with the following
text in the message body (Subject line will be skipped): SUB SWL-L
YourFirstname YourLastName. 

------------------------------

You may leave  the list at any  time by sending a "SIGNOFF  SWL-L" command to
LISTSERV@OHSTVMA. Please  note that this command  must NOT be sent  to the
list address (SWL-L@OHSTVMA) but to the LISTSERV address (LISTSERV@OHSTVMA).

------------------------------

  The  amount of  acknowledgement  you  wish to  receive  from  this list
upon completion of  a mailing  operation can  be changed  by means  of a  "SET
SWL-L option" command,  where "option"  may be  either "ACK"  (mail
acknowledgement), "MSGACK" (interactive messages only) or "NOACK".

  Please note that  it is presently possible for anybody  to determine that
you are  signed up  to the  list through  the use  of the  "REVIEW" command,
which returns the network address and name of all the subscribers. If
you do not wish your name to  be available to others  in this fashion,
just issue  a "SET SWL-L CONCEAL" command.

  More  information  on  LISTSERV  commands   can  be  found  in  the
"General Introduction  guide", which  you can  retrieve  by sending
an "INFO GENINTRO" command to LISTSERV@OHSTVMA.

----------------------
   If you have access to the Internet via TCP/IP the Interest Groups
List of lists is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.nisc.sri.com
(192.33.33.22).  FTP as user anonymous and CD to "netinfo" then GET
interest-groups . The file is available as one large file at this time
(over 500,000 characters).

   The SRI NIC list-of-lists is now available via electronic mail.
Send a message to mail-server@nisc.sri.com with the following line in
the message body:

Send netinfo/interest-groups

...and you should be returned the file in moderate sized pieces.
Further information on the server itself is available with the command

Send help


Hope it helps.

73s,

Alfredo 


-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
| Alfredo E. Cotroneo   email: a.cotroneo@it12.bull.it          | 
|   or: 100020.1013@compuserve.com (preferred)
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: KEEN AM Going Dark
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization:  Green Hills and Cows
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:02:51 GMT

After years of losing money and the fact that the bulldozers are ready
to clear the land for low-income housing, KEEN will conclude forty-five
years of country music broadcasting on January 1, 1993. KEEN was put on
the air in 1947 by three Bay Area families and has been continuously
owned by them.

At midnight on New Years day, the carrier will leave the air. In the
meantime, negotiations are progressing for an alternate transmitter
site and if all goes as planned, the KEEN signal will return during the
summer of 1993. One thing is almost certain: it will not be a country
format. The owners are preparing to spend a half-million dollars to
relocate the facility and will want to see some realistic return on the
investment.

KEEN was the only stereo AM signal in the south bay. It also has the
distiction of carrying the longest running format in the Bay Area. Even
though the station will return, there are a lot of memories in the old
facility, where I gained my first engineering experiences. The old RCA
BTA-5H transmitter, installed in 1955 is still there and still serves
as a reliable (but mono) backup. Since the studios were at one time
located at the transmitter, the old record library consisting of
thousands of 78 RPM records was there until is was sold last month to a
collector.

In less than two months, that piece of local radio history will be flat
ground.

[Moderator's Note: Hey John, wanna record the final sign-off and explanation
etc for me?  I'd appreciate it.]

-- 
 John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
 john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: SLJ1K@CC.USU.EDU
Subject: NPR's Danny boy
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Utah State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:03:48 GMT

Good Day
I need some information on NPR political analyst Daniel Schorr (like
the correct spelling of his name?)
Where did he start out, where educated, how many years in the industry?
Thanks way in advance,
________________________________________________________________________________
Mark L. Reece     | ``Eternal nothingness is O.K. if you'r dressed for it.''
SLJ1K@CC.USU.EDU  |``The universe is merely a fleeting idea in God's mind - a 
je taime, jen     | pretty uncomfortable thought if you've just made a down 
                  | payment on a house.'' - Woody Allen
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: hwcco@chevron.com (Bill Corea)
Subject: Good bye WNEW
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Chevron Overseas Petroleum Inc
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:24:30 GMT

Well, last week, I was visiting Boston, and, being a night owl, was
listening to "Milkman's Matinee" every night. Then, Saturday, it wasn't
there. Instead, a Country-Western station was occupying 1130 in New York. 
Very sad!

Does anyone have a copy of the intro for "Milkman's Matinee"? I believe
it was sung by the Modernaires (Glenn Miller's singing group)

Did anybody happen to tape the cutover from WNEW to W??? (I have a mental 
block about the call letters)

The loss of WNEW is another nail in the coffin of good AM radio.

----

By the way, I heard the Celtics have agreed to buy back WEEI/590 in Boston.



Bill Corea                     Chevron Overseas Petroleum         
hwcco@chevron.com     San Ramon, California

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: shearson!dmandl@uunet.UU.NET (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:38:53 GMT


In article 7719@gagme.chi.il.us, cpack@wang.com (Chris Pack) writes:
>
>
>Anybody out there know anything about Joe Frank?  He (until recently)
>had a radio show on Sunday nights.  I'm not sure exactly which station,
>but it was a pretty cool show and he seems to have gone off the air.
>Any info would be appreciated.
>Chris

Joe Franks's "home" station is KCRW in LA, but his show, "Work
in Progress," is syndicated and is broadcast on NPR stations
around the country.  If you get in touch with KCRW, I'm sure
they can help you.  For NYC-area listeners, the show is broadcast
on WFMU (91.1)--damn, our schedule just changed and I don't know
when it's on now.  Call FMU at 201-678-8264 for the schedule.

Irwin Chusid, who does a show on FMU, interviewed JF a year or
two ago and broadcast the interview on his show.  He also wrote
an article based on it, and a piece of that will appear in 
the Radio issue of Semiotext(e), tentatively titled
"Radiotext(e)," which is being edited by Neil Strauss and me and
will be out in March or so.

   --Dave.

---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
         Dave Mandl            |    Opinions expressed here
       New York City           | are not those of my employer,
   (dmandl@shearson.com)       |          believe me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: "TISS: :HIGGINS" <higgins%tiss.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com>
Subject: Responses to many threads...
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:15:50 GMT


> WLUP-AM protects KOMO, Seattle (rarely audible in the midwest on
>  Monday Mornings when WLUP goes off). KING is Seattle-1090 (call
> letter buffs note it is in King County).

> I could get it reasonably well both day and night in Iowa City,
> Iowa, 194 miles to the west, tho not nearly as good as
> WMAQ/WGN/WBBM/WLS.

> [Moderator's Note:  Yes, of course you are right, I always get
> those two mixed up :-\.  You get KING in Iowa City?  What about
> KAAY -1090-Little Rock?]

I shoulda been specific. The original thread dealt with WLUP-AM's
coverage/pattern; I meant I could get WLUP-AM reasonably well both
day and night in Iowa City.

No, I never heard KING from Iowa City; you're right, KAAY was the
dominant. Sorry for the confusion!

------------------------------

An unrelated note: Will Martin <wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL> sez:

> Music from the Hearts of Space had been being carried on WSIE,
> 88.7 MHz, in Edwardsville, IL on Sunday nights at, I think, 10
> PM...WSIE comes in OK on good FM radios, and on quality FM tuners
> with middling-decent antenna systems. Many cheap FM radios (or
> expensive radios with poorly-designed or cheap FM sections!) will
> not get it here in St. Louis, however. My GE Superradio II gets it
> quite nicely...

You may be interested in the following show on KDHX FM 88.1 Saint
Louis:

Monday evenings 9pm - midnight                   (Central Time)
"NocturnAL Dezignz" with the GALAKTIKAT

The description in their Winter program guide says:

"Your aural, surreal architect builds dreams with hallucinogenic,
New Age, Gothic, Industrial, New Romantic, Cyber-Punk Art Rock,
avant-garde Jazz and Classical music and experimental muzik."

Hmmmm...on second thought, maybe not. Anyway it's the closest
thing KDHX has to new age.

Also, some stuff in the KDHX program guide also caught my eye with
respect to the modern rock thread that's been going on. A quick
peek shows they program modern pop or modern rock or alternative
rock or underground rock at the following times (Central Time):

Sun 0000-0300 with JOHN THE MAILMAN
Mon 1300-1600 with DOUG MORGAN
Tue 1300-1600 with DARREN SNOW
Wed 0300-0600 with GIGI
Thu 1300-1600 with TODD LOGGINS
Fri 0230-0600 with TODD LOGGINS
Sat 0300-0600 with MICHELLE
Sat 2100-2400 with CAT and TONY

So add this station to your list, sort of. Also, rumor has it
that the holder of a 50000 watt 93.3 mHz FM construction permit
50 miles west of Saint Louis is considering modern rock...

And finally, of interest to Saint Louis area FM DXers, KDHX is
silent the first Monday Morning of every month, 0200-0600 CT.

Hope the above hasn't wandered TOO much...


Earl Higgins KA9DHA
now in Saint Louis


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Rodney_Fafara@3mail.3com.com
Subject: We're building a station! Need STL advice.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:08:31 GMT

Dear readers of the Internet Radio Journal,

My wife and I have just been granted a construction permit for a new class 
A FM, 99.5 on the dial, to service a small town (pop. 5,042) on Oregon's 
central coast, of which we plan to move to and become a part of the 
community.  It has taken 3 years and one month almost to the day and most 
all of our liquid assets (mostly on legal fees and the cost to buy out the 
one competing application), but that's another story I'll share some other 
time.  

We are not a big Corporation just two working people, who when we started 
this believed any regular old shmoe could start a radio station (that's 
what it said in the FCC regulations anyway).  As I have stated, to get this 
point it has taken nearly all of our cash savings and now on top of that we 
have to do a site change (more $$s).  We are trying to start this station 
without borrowing any outside money, the theory being the less we owe at 
start up the better the chance we have for success.

I am looking for suggestions, information, tradeoffs, and/or feedback, 
(cost, reliability, etc...) on the different kinds of studio to transmitter 
links. 

 I will openly admit that I'm not an engineer and still have a long way to 
go in understanding a lot of the FM operation principles. But, I am 
willing to learn and have a great desire to be apart of the small (as in 
micro) business, broadcast industry and to service my community of license 
with programing relating to the enrichment of that community.  This may 
sound corny and weird, but my goal is to be different (as in alternative) 
and not just another "for mass profit only station".

All comments and feedback are welcome.  I enjoy reading Internet Radio 
Journal very much and if anyone is interested I'm more than willing to 
share my story(s) on what it takes to start an FM station on your own.


[Moderator's Note:  I can't speak for the rest of the readers, but I, for
one, would love to hear your story and suspect that others may benefit too. 
And, by the way, I wish you and your wife all the success in the world!  Just
don't run satellite music network :-).]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Loren Omoto <73407.3110@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: NPR vs APR
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Minnesota Public Radio
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:26:17 GMT

In Internet Radio Journal #234, Stan Jones writes:

>As a Canadian I don't understand the difference between NPR and APR. 
>Could I get a brief explanation? 

Here's the briefest I could come up with:

National Public Radio is a full-fledged network of public radio stations,
started back in the dark ages (late 60's?), after several other abortive
attempts to start cooperative ventures among the various non-commercial
("educational," at the time) radio stations in the U.S.

NPR supplies programming to affiliate stations (which it calls "members")
around the country, including "Morning Edition," "All Things Considered" and
"Fresh Air."  Some of its programs (such as the first two) are produced by
NPR itself in Washington, while others (such as "Fresh Air") are produced
elsewhere with NPR money for distribution on its satellite net.

American Public Radio is a more recent arrival, created by some of the
larger public radio organizations as a distribution consortium ONLY (no
program ownership or production).  It charges stations an affiliation fee,
too, as well as clearance charges for each program, based on market size.

APR-distributed programs include "American Radio Company" (Garrison
Keillor), "Music Through the Night" and BBC World Service broadcasts.  It
contracts with individual producers and programming organizations for the
shows it distributes, and has no production facilities per se.  APR is
headquartered in Minneapolis.

There are lots of other details that make NPR and APR different, but suffice
it to say that public stations can choose to be members of either or both
organizations -- or neither -- and still transmit at least SOME of the
programming, depending on the competitive mood of individual markets.

Apologies if I screwed up any of this, as I'm writing from memory (at home),
and not with any references handy.  Hope it helps.


				--LO

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Subject: Re: Pacifica Radio Network
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:08:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.051957.16463@gagme.chi.il.us>, book@owlnet.rice.edu
(Robert Aaron Book) writes:
|> Pacifica is definitely a network.  The network was started quite
|> some time ago, with funding for many years from, of all places, the KGB.
|> (You know, the Russian folks.)

I've never heard this before.  Where is this documented?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: WEOS-FM <BLACK%HWS1%HWS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Joe Frank Info.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: WEOS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:11:50 GMT

Joe Frank was a program of National public Radio, "Joe Frank: Work in
Progress" that has aired for a few years. However, the show left the schedule
last  Summer, as Joe wanted to work on other projects. That is where he went.
However, NPR did say they thought he may return at some later time.
==================================================================
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|General Manager, WEOS-FM       |      or   BLACK@HWS            |
|Hobart & William Smith Colleges|PHONE:     315-781-3456         |
|Geneva, New York  14456-3397   |FAX:       315-781-3916         |
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Subject: Re: AM Changes Hands in Cincinnati
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:58:43 GMT

> [Moderator's Note: LMA means Local Market(ing) Agreement.  I am not sure if
> that is what these are.  I always thought that LMA's were situations where
> stations remained individually owned, and 'agreed' to share programming....


...agree to share sales and support staffs.

barry

=======================================================================
Barry Mishkind                            barry@jab.tucson.az.us
                                          1:300/11.3 on FidoNet


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: fybush\@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush)
Subject: Corrections to Boston programming
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unixland, is almost dead
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:38:28 GMT


I goofed on a few things I should have known better about:

For WRKO, read 9-11 AM as Howie Carr and noon-2PM as Victoria
Jones, not the other way around.  3-6 is Jerry Williams,
6-8 is Sports Talk with Dick Lutsk.

For WHDH, read noon-3 as Rush Limbaugh, 3-6 as Jackson and
Jurkowitz, and 6-8 as Gene Burns (via tape delay from WOR).
8-11 is Bruce Williams.

I'd better not have made any errors on WBZ's listing :-)

Scott Fybush -- reappearing soon as fybush\@world.std.com

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