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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy ---Scav's day
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:37:05 GMT

This has been a pretty good day.  I found an every thing's a dollar store
that is true to its name,  I didn't have to wait long for the bus at any stop,
and I din't get fit by a charging rhino.

As for comic type things:  Lobo's Back #4 came in.

I found the Cap Atom with Death in it.

The new issue of X-Force is out.  Yes I'm happy about it.  This book has gotten
better with each issue since Robbie left.  Did you imagine that the day would 
come that X-force has the best art of the X-Books (note "X" not "EX") go figure!

Letsee, oh the Kelly Bundy speacial finally came in.

I haven't read the other books yet, but they look good.
---No Sandman or Hero Alliance but.. hey I can deal.

Also, the Red Dwarf paperback has finally been released in the US. It's got a
foil embossed(?) cover, so I bought 3 copies. One to read, one bag, and one to 
put inside a safe burried underground.

I also got one of those plastic extend-a-swords at the afformentioned $1 store.

I'll be posting the LNH roster tonight, thereby letting wReam deal with it for
awhile.

AND TOMORROW I'll get to meat JOEL HODGESON.  If you don't know who he is, you
should!!!


oh and I read a preview of DOOM 2099.  It's not bad. WAYYY better than Ravage.

----SCAVENGER bouncing and skipping

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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Dale Keown
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:06:06 GMT

In article <9209302053.AA08483@PCS.CNU.EDU> rglass@pcs.cnu.edu (Randall Glass) writes:
> I am a huge Dale Keown fan.
> What has Keown worked on before _Incr.Hulk_?

	He did the art for several issues of DRAGONRING for Aircel (black
and white).  I don't know the exact issue numbers, but they were later
reprinted in a three issue limited series called DRAGONFORCE CHRONICLES.
	He then wrote and drew a regular DRAGON FORCE title for Aircel,
which was cancelled several issues after he left.  The first four were in
full color, then he did about 5 more in b&w.  The art, especially in the
color issues, is incredible Keown stuff, but his writing was...well, bad.
-- 
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* Dara Naraghi                       * "Love isn't really blind...just      *
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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Re: VALIANT
Keywords: THE NEXT MARVEL/DC!!!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:16:11 GMT

In article <003605t.1.717186475@ace.acadiau.ca> 003605t@ace.acadiau.ca (JEFFREY ROBERT THOMPSON) writes:
>
>
>	You can call Valiant in New York and speak with the editors and 
>creators.  They will tell you new things in development, secrets and hints.
>I learned from them that there will never be any magic in the Valiant 
>Universe.

	One question then:  What exactly are all the Geomancers running
around in the different Valiant titles?  It sure sounds like magic to me.

>       The Valiant Universe will only have about 15 titles going at one 
>time because its hard to keep track of the whats happenings if there are 200 
>or more books like there are in the Marvel or DC Universes.

	I tend to doubt this too.  Valiant is a great comic book publisher,
but it's also a business.  They will probably hold to 15 titles for a while,
but eventually they will add more to meet demands of the readers and to
increase profits.  I think they are doing a very good job right now.  They
are publishing high quality books, but they are carefull not to expand the
line too fast.  But the number of titles they publish will eventually,
and slowly, grow to over 15, IMHO.
-- 
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Cerebus #162
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:56:05 GMT

I was expecting Thatcher to play games with the information she received
from Hammond, but she didn't.

Loboroach?  Venomroach?  Ghostroach?  Sput...  The poor fellow seems to
have short-circuited something.  I didn't know he had anything left to
short-circuit.

Notice Elrond's role in all this?  At least some of his pose as an
ingenuous Good Old Boy is false.  When the main chance appears --
here, at the ascension, at Petuniacon, we keep finding his eye fastened
on it firmly.  Somehow, when fate is about to elect someone, he always
manages to make himself one of the candidates.

Baskin got what he deserved for thinking too small.  No matter how many
perks he receives, he'll still be in a dead-end position.  If he had the
courage to seize his opportunities and ask to be made an assistant
kitchen supervisor, or something equally grand, he too could work his
way up to semi-divinity some day.

Who's the old aardvark Cerebus flies past?  And was that Astoria still
in chains?  I thought she was out getting spruced up for her meeting
with Cirin.

We still don't know how Pigts reproduce, but the way the use themselves
up, it's a cinch they must have a way.  Were we told, before, about the
giant-of-stone prophecy?  It certainly explains Bran MacMuffin's suicide.

Interesting editorial.  The language is so restrained that it's possible
to overlook just how thoroughly Groth is being savaged.  Some interesting
letters, too.  If there were more columns like this, and fewer page-long
chain-of-consciousness pieces, I might get out of the "I hate Aardvark
Column" club.

And the Usenet Interview gets an honorable mention.

Quite an issue.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

Roses red and violets blew
  and all the sweetest flowres that in the forrest grew -- Edmund Spenser




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From: ss@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Where's Captain Atom?
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:22:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU's message of 26 Sep 92 13:52:13 GMT

>>>>> On 26 Sep 92 13:52:13 GMT, dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO) said:


dyko> Subject says it all. Where the hell is he?  Someone asked this a
dyko> while ago but didn't get much feedback. Why did DC sacrifice
dyko> Hank Hall if they ain't putting Cap'n Atom back into action?

You know I was wondering the same thing not to long ago. He made it
back to modern time at the end of Alien Agenda. Maybe he decided he
needed a vacation...
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson)
Subject: batman/green arrow cb
Summary: question on Poison Ivy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:59:35 GMT

I just picked up the Batman and Green Arrow comic yesterday(sorry, the name 
temporarily escapes me, and I don't have it with me).  It features the Green 
Arrow and Batman against Poison Ivy.  In it, there is an implied confrontation
between big B and PI previously.  When was she introduduced prior to this?  The
first I ever heard of her was in the Batman animated series.  I guess she could
have been in Detective comics, I rarely, if ever, pick up that title.

help will be, as always, appreciated.


******************************** BATMAN ***************************************

                           /\    /\_/\    /\            The Bat
                          /  \__/     \__/  \           The Cat          
                         (                   )        The Penguin  
                          \  /--\     /--\  /
                           \/    \   /    \/   
                                  \ /
                                   V

         David M. Pearson                      dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
         University of Illinois                PEARSON@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: speterse%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:16:02 MDT
Keywords: Endless, animals, relations
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <rdippold.718313509@qualcom> rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>>and maybe Destiny's have been made
>>before, I can't for the life of me remember and I'm too lazy to check.

>How about an owl, or an elephant?

I was thinking of something more along the lines of a brontosaurus.

--
    "From your signature it is obvious that you are a homosexual"
soren f petersen           :        i AM NOT          :    --Doc
speterse@peruvian.utah.edu :  THE university OF utah  :
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:02:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct4.230619.26096@tandem.com> Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:
>4 MM and Moran *are* the same person.  I got tired of arguing with you mutton-
>  heads before, but I'm refreshed now.  Bring it on. . .

I missed this thread on the last go 'round, but I'll put in my $0.02 now.

MM does not think of himself as the same person as Mike Moran, or vice
versa. Moore was very consistent about this; each talks about the
other in the third person. To me, this indicates that MM never
adjusted well to having multiple bodies. MW talks about her different
bodies as if they were outfits (both in Moore and Gaiman issues),
which seems a more accurate (and well-adjusted approach). It brings
us back to MiracleMan not being very clever.
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: The Illustrated Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:52:58 GMT

In article <1als4bINN96u@agate.berkeley.edu> goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.211522.12121@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>)I wonder whether we'll see that little girl again.  She has a good head
>)on her shoulders.
>)
>)Dani Zweig
>
>	And is it just me, or was she drawn as a dead ringer for 
>John Tenniel's version of Alice? Note that both of the "Alice"
>books turned out to be dreams at the end...

Why can't Sandman be a book that I can read and discard? Now I have to go
back and look at the last issue again. <grumble> <grumble> <grumble>

As I mentioned earlier, at least some of the artwork in #42 was based on
the illustrations from Winnie the Pooh. It is possible that some of the
art here is based on the Tenniel illustrations to Dodgson's work. (Probably
not the math texts.) 

Now while this might just be Thompson acting on her own volition, we
know Gaiman is fairly specific in his scripts. (We've seen the evidence!
He won't make that mistake again!) Perhaps there is a hidden agenda here.

I tend to think of Delirium as a child. This is, in part, her story. 
Could we be seeing the story influenced by her point of view? It just might
be my upbringing (my mom teaches Brit kid lit) but I find the illustrations
from kid's book to be among my very strongest memories.  

Or they could just make nice pictures. I dunno.

So anyone want to go back to #41 and look for the imprint of Geisel?

>	"He was just a thing in my dream, of course, but I was 
>a thing in his dream too." (Probably a misquote.)

This reminds me, has anyone seen "Dream Child"? (I think it's two words.)
A very interesting movie about the girl who was the inspiration for Alice?
It also involves a long trip... 
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: American Scream for Prez
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:45:04 GMT

In <1992Sep28.131645.8863@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>First off, if yer gonna elect a comic book character from DC's Mature Titles, 
>go for broke:  AMERICAN SCREAM for PREZ!

Too late.  The Scream has been Prez for, oh, the last 216 years...

                           "On the surface, selling arms to a country that
                            sponsors terrorism, of course, clearly, you'd have
                            to argue it's wrong, but it's the exception
                            sometimes that proves the rule."
                                           -- George Bush, August 1987
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From: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Subject: newsgroup access
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 25 Sep 92 01:37:31 EST

I have a friend who is interested in gaining access to this newsgroup
(he's a professional comics type person) from the Seattle/Bellevue WA
area. Being in Toronto, I don't know of any public access Unix systems
out west (and he's not about to become a Microsoft employee). Could
anybody out west let me know which system(s) are accessible to the
general public? Free, pay, whatever. I know that Jim Cowling posts from
U of Vic, but (a) I'm not certain what their rules are, and (b) it's
probably the wrong area code anyway.

Please don't post answers to this group. You can email me at either
"bill.dehaan@rose.com" or "bill.dehaan@canrem.com". Any help
appreciated. Thanks.

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Slices of life
Organization: Camp Whak-A-Boy Alumni
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:49:48 GMT

In article <lc1figINNcr0@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> jamesc@bassclar.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>No one has mentioned the origin of this genre.  Back in the 50's and 60's
>DC comics published comics that depicted the everyday, off-screen lives
>of Bob Hope and Jerry Lewis.  How soon people forget!  :^)

Nah, they couldn't have been real life. Otherwise Renfrew would have teamed
up with Danny Bonaduce and the cast of Diff'rent Strokes by now.

"...it was as if the spirit of Gary Groth suddenly took over my hands --I had
 this uncanny urge to grab a thesaurus and find synonyms for "puerile snot.""
  --Rogers Cadenhead
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:57:59 GMT
Subject: Re: SURVEY:  Our buying habits
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc

In rec.arts.comics.misc, maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire) writes:

> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  I NEVER buy multiple copies, and I don't buy those
> expensive DC/EC/Krazy Kat reprint books, and I still count myself lucky if
> I spend ONLY $250/mo on new comics, AFTER a 30% mail order discount (plus
> $18/mo for weekly shipping).
> 

$250 a month!  Are you insane?

> So, DOES Dave VanDom spend too much?  (I know I do).  Let the people speak!
>  How much do YOU spend?

Maybe ten bucks a month.

> 
> Make sure you reply to me by E-mail;  don't be a bonehead and post your
> response.

I was a bonehead, because I felt the need to tell people they
might not want to send e-mail to someone who is clearly 
insane.

doug
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy ---Scav's day
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:45:21 GMT

I read a friend's Red Dwarf PB (he ordered overseas for it) a few months back, 
and it was pretty good.
     Dave Van Domelen, gotta go to Quantum Mech in 5 minutes..eeep!
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: A note to any anti-LNHers
Summary: Not that there ARE any
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:53:09 GMT

Hi, I belive we're still having some difficulty in getting a.c.lnh established
everywhere.  Please bare with us as we attempt to set up our own group.
This basicaly means please don't flame any LNH post showing up while the setting
up process continues.

I'm not sure how the process can be speeded up, but I suppose sending
leaders supporting the group to alt.(I think it's configure but that doesn't
look right) couldn't hurt.

Thanx for ya'll's patience.

----SCAVENGER
 
-- 
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           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
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From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Cerebus #162
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:37:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.231021.14501@math.ucla.edu> sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes:
>
>You left out the bittersweet one-page by Chris Aubry.  It's sketchy but
>I found it deeply moving.
I am so glad that someone else was moved by this. After reading it, I
honestly was holding back sobs for 30 minutes (at work, no less. Try
working in a tutoring site with wet eyes...).
How many other people who grew up with Sesame Street cried when they
read this? 
BTW, was it just me, or was the a5rt in the issue, especially the
Cable-Venom-GR-Roach scene, rather rushed? I'm so used to wonderful
Sim art, that this was a bit sketchy.
Also, about the innuendo: If you go back and read the issue before the
Chessboard sequence, not only does the innuendo start there, it also
reads like a rewriting of the Tarim-Terim sequence at the end of
Church and State. My friend joked-maybe Cerebus is Terim (chuckle...)
Ray Cornwall
University of Delaware: cornwall@brahms.udel.edu


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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Spawn + WRITERS
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:49:58 GMT

In article <717274858.0@selene.FidoNet.Org> Ed.Almasy@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Ed Almasy) writes:
>My understanding is that the whole thing came about from a discussion at San
>Diego, and that McFarlane received verbal agreements from each of the writers
>after the convention.  Whether the books will actually hit the stands with
>these people involved is questionable in my mind, but I think the discussions
>*did* take place and promises *were* made.

Um, good trick given that none of Moore, Gaiman, or Sim were at San Diego
this year. While the writing by them has been confirmed by several sources,
I'd seriously doubt anything was settled at all at San Diego.

"Um, we were wondering. If we, say, for instance, oh...just left, would you 
guys consider that 'trying something'?"
"Oh, YEAH. If you leave, that'd be escaping. Clearly grounds for us to beat you
up."  --Damage Control vs. the New Warriors
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CEREBUS 161: Sitting roaches
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:45:37 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@tornado.berkeley.edu

In article <Bvnv59.yH@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran) writes:
)And to loose in such a stupid way!  (The Scholar's Mate!)
	^^^^^
	lose (Spelling Boy, where are you when we really need you?)
)
)                             Kieran Mullen

	Actually, it wasn't the Scholar's Mate. The Scholar's Mate runs
like this:
	1. P-K4   P-K4  
	2. B-QB4  B-QB4 (Or P-Q3, or really anything but N-KB3)
	3. Q-R5 (*not* B3)  N-KB3 (Saying "Aha! I'll bring out a piece
while attacking his queen!")
	4. QxP mate

	(Or, in real notation: 1.e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5 Nf6 4. Qxf7 mate.)

	Is it just coincidence that right after Cerebus gets mated, the
Punisheroach finds a mate?

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "Think of the ragged poverty of a language that 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  | has to make one word do the work of six, and a
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     | poor weak thing of three letters at that."
                           |  -- Mark Twain, "The Awful German Language"
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: that little box in the lower corner
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:48:04 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <swindley.717809247@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:
>Okay, it's bothered me for ages and I've never found
>anyone who could properly tell me what the significance 
>of that little box in the lower corner of (nearly) every
>cover of a comic book. (you know the little one with 
>bar-codes if it's a newstand comic or a little picture
>of a superhero if it's direct sales.
>
>I think I've heard it referred to as a 'UPC' box or
>somesuch, so what does "UPC' stand for ????

Obscure Trivia Lad says he thinks it stands for "United Parcel Code."
Or something like that.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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