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From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,misc.forsale.computers,vmsnet.pdp-11,mit.bboard,ne.forsale
Subject: PRO Manual set forsale
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:26:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Distribution: comp,misc,vmsnet,bu,mit,ne
Organization: Boston University


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: pflugrat@cshl.org (Jim Pflugrath)
Subject: VAX4000/90 DSSI?
Summary: Can one get DSSI on a VAX4000/90
Keywords: DSSI disk-sharing 
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:17:54 GMT

Can one get DSSI on a VAX4000/90 in a cheap way? One solution might be to 
Turbo to Q-bus adapter, then use a Q-bus to DSSI adapter?

Has anybody thought of this, tried this?  Comments?  Please send e-mail to 
<pflugrat@cshl.org> as our news software seems flaky nowadays.

Jim

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From: fetrow@biostat.washington.edu (David Fetrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: net.views -- which vendor is the most open?
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:00:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep11.070009.22079
Distribution: na
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.

In article <1992Sep10.024324.17106@decuac.dec.com> mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum) writes:
>	I guess this is a toughie, but I'd prefer to see Open Systems Today
>propose a definition of "Open Systems" that we can all live with an
>that actually has some meaning *before* we engage in a jolly round of
>flamage about who is more "Open".
>
>	What *IS* an "Open System"??

 The definition may be shakey but it sure is nice to hear it even as a
marketing consideration, ain't it?

-- 
 - dave fetrow-					fetrow@biostat.washington.edu

 "Never underestimate the ability of large potential profits to
  make technically inferior technology into a workable standard."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Subject: Re: net.views -- which vendor is the most open?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:43:24 GMT

	I guess this is a toughie, but I'd prefer to see Open Systems Today
propose a definition of "Open Systems" that we can all live with an
that actually has some meaning *before* we engage in a jolly round of
flamage about who is more "Open".

	What *IS* an "Open System"??
	----------------------------
Is it?
	Volume and functionality:		DOS/windows
Is it?
	Cheap:					DOS/windows
Is it?
	Free source code:			Linux and whatnot
Is it?
	Licenseable source code:		Anything, *IF* you have the $$
Is it?
	POSIX compliance:			Loads of things
Is it?
	UNIX:					which? UNIX(R) is a trademark..
Is it?
	Runs on a huge range of platforms:	POSIX?
Is it?
	A marketing buzzword:			Ask "Open Systems Today"?
Is it?
	A checklist item for an RFP		Everything is "Open"



	I've heard EVERY SINGLE ONE of those categories of "definitions"
used, and not in fun. If you ask which vendor has the greatest commitment
to the above, then you're an idiot or worse.

	A survey question such as this makes me really wonder if the
folks at "Open Systems Today" know what they're "Today" about. It is
a given that any vendor's answer to "Who is most committed" is "MEMEME!!"
It is a likelihood that any user's answer is going to be "whatever I like"
because "Open" here is almost synoymous with "is good", it's such a
broad brush. Just pretend it's an election year and you're asking a
bunch of pols "Who is most *MORAL*?" - yep, you're gonna get a really
meaningful response.

	Why don't you guys argue about how many angels can dance on the
head of a pin, or something that someone can say something intelligible
about.



mjr. - Who personally, deeply, truly, utterly is committed to "Open Systems"
I believe computers should have lots of nice ventilation holes in them, but
not too many.
From: george@tusk.med.harvard.edu (George Planansky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Tbin: What is it? and why bazillions of error msgs from Cron ?
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:30:54 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School, Boston MA

On an Indigo running IRIX, we're seeing mail from a root crontab
reporting an error with Tbin.  I can`t find a Tbin or anything about 
Tbin anywhere, let alone what to do about it.  

It has a time pattern, but I see no source for it ... I do have
a notion to blame timed.  Anyway, your help is appreciated.
Here's how it looks:

fenwick(1)#mail
Mail version SGI.911024.  Type ? for help.
"/usr/mail/root": 22 messages 22 unread
>U  1 root                Mon Sep 14 15:30  15/1017 
 U  2 sys                 Mon Sep 14 15:40  15/1025 
 U  3 root                Mon Sep 14 16:00  15/1017 
 U  4 sys                 Mon Sep 14 16:00  15/1025 
 U  5 root                Mon Sep 14 16:08  15/1017 
 U  6 root                Mon Sep 14 16:17  15/1017 
 U  7 sys                 Mon Sep 14 16:20  15/1025 
 U  8 root                Mon Sep 14 16:30  15/1017 
 U  9 sys                 Mon Sep 14 16:40  15/1025 
 U 10 root                Mon Sep 14 16:45  15/1017 
 U 11 root                Mon Sep 14 17:00  15/1017 
 U 12 sys                 Mon Sep 14 17:00  15/1025 
 U 13 root                Mon Sep 14 17:08  15/1017 
 U 14 root                Mon Sep 14 17:17  15/1017 
 U 15 sys                 Mon Sep 14 17:20  15/1025 
 U 16 root                Mon Sep 14 17:30  15/1017 
 U 17 root                Mon Sep 14 17:45  15/1017 
 U 18 root                Mon Sep 14 18:00  15/1017 
 U 19 sys                 Mon Sep 14 18:00  15/1025 
 U 20 sys                 Mon Sep 14 18:05  15/1025 
 U 21 root                Mon Sep 14 18:08  15/1017 
 U 22 root                Mon Sep 14 18:17  15/1017 
& 1
Message  1:
>From root  Mon Sep 14 15:30:06 1992
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:30:06 -0400
From: root (Super-User)
Tbin: /bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh/usr/

sbin:/usr/bsd:/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/bin/X11/bin/sh: is not an identifier
Apparently-To: root


*************************************************
Cron: The previous message is the standard output
      and standard error of one of your cron commands.
--
George Planansky
Department of Biological Chemistry & Molecular Pharmacology
Harvard University Medical School, 240 Longwood Ave., Boston, MA 02115
email: gplanansky@tusk.med.harvard.edu
phone: (617) 432-3919
fax:   (617) 432-4360
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.networks.management.misc,vmsnet.networks.misc,vmsnet.misc
From: rbn@ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov (Bob Boyd)
Subject: Re: Wanrouter-500 with X.25, Decnet, IP, PAD
Organization: UNISYS/Environmental Protection Agency
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:35:19 GMT

pista@aszi.sztaki.hu (Tetenyi Istvan) writes:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> 
> We have recently bought a Wanrouter-500 Dec equipment. The router is
> connected to an ethernet and to X.25. On the ethernet we use DECNET and
> TCP/IP. A VAX 5100 (risc) machine is also connected to the network.
> Basically this configuration is typical in three other places in
> Hungary.
> 
> Colleagues from DEC state the following:
> Either:
> 	the wanrouter software provides:
> 			PAD/X.25, DLM/X.25, OSI/X.25 directly.
> 	But (!) it cannot route TCP/IP over X.25 without the help of
> 	the VAX 5100 with the installation of a DECNET/IP gateway software.
> Or:
> 	The wanrouter provides:
> 		 DLM/X.25, OSI/X.25, IP/X.25
> 	 But there is no PAD (X.3, X.28, X.29) access at all.
> 
> What we really wanted was or is:
> 		 OSI/X.25, PAD/X.25, IP/X.25, Decnet(DLM)/X.25.
> 
> We could either have DECNET or DECNET/OSI etc. 
> 

To my knowledge the least expensive box that will do all of what you want
is the NIS500 or the NIS600 unless DEC has come out with something else
recently that I haven't heard about yet.
--
Bob Boyd                 
rbn@ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov 
Unisys/EPA               

Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon)
Subject: Connecting 2 VMS systems
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 16:43:33 GMT

We have two MicroVAX systems running VMS 5.5 that we would like to
connect so that mail can be exchanged easily between users of each
system, despite the fact that the actual computers are several miles
apart. We would like the system to be as transparent as possible, so
that for the average user it would seem like the same machine, but
failing that, something like sending mail to "THERE::JOE" wouldn't
be too bad (and a vast improvement over no connection at all). Both
machines are running DECnet, which is being used only for PATHWORKS
for Macintosh at this time. Each machine has exactly one modem, and
it would be nice if that modem wasn't tied up all the time.

RSVP via mail.  Thanks.

                                         - Scot (scot@jlc.mv.com)

-- 
                                          - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)

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From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: net.views -- What is an "Open System"?
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:39:53 GMT

In article <jbone.716147104@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>PC *hardware* is open.

Agreed.

>DOS and Windows are not.

You might find that "DOS" could be delivered as MS-DOS (Microsoft) or
DR-DOS (Novell), or perhaps even as the DOS portion of OS/2 2.0 (IBM).
In fact, even though the Windows code in OS/2 2.0 is largely
Microsoft's, they are no longer in control of it within OS/2.  So I
might be so bold as to claim that DOS and Windows are available from
multiple vendors, and are therefore "open."
-- 
Richard Krehbiel                                 richk@grebyn.com
OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Subject: Re: Non-Interactive dump for RISC Ultrix 4.2 [it is]
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:41:44 GMT

hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) writes:

>Is it safe to to get BSD4.3 dump/rdump
>(ftp.uu.net:/packages/bsd-sources/sbin/dump) and use that under Ultrix 4.2A?

	No. You need to fix some stuff. If you do, you'll get a ~2-3X
performance improvement,though. Fortunately, the work has already been
done. decuac.dec.com: pub/DEC/dumprestor.tar.Z

mjr.
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From: richard@npri6.npri.com (Richard Head)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:04:44 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

>From article <GRUNWALD.92Sep7123134@mumble.cs.colorado.edu>, by grunwald@mumble.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald):
>...
>    Looks like Ehud has a follower in his footsteps except this one (RH) is a 
>little less imaginative in his insults.

In defense of Ehud, he is a) smarter than I, b) wouldn't even waste the time
I have to respond to your excellent post which has nothing to do about either 
the original thread or this group and c) probably forgot more about VMS while
taking a dump this morning than an academic flunky such as yourself will
ever know.  Click your heels 3 times and keep saying "Long live the MicroVUP,
Long live the MicroVUP,..."
-- 
richard@npri6.npri.com  <Richard Head>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Subject: Re: net.views -- What is an "Open System"?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:55:09 GMT

[Disclaimer: This is all my personal opinion. I work for a vendor, but
I do not speak for that vendor, nor do I set its policy.]


geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:
>>	What *IS* an "Open System"??
>
>Gee, that sounds like my cue.  I'll give my usual commentary first and
>then elaborate a bit.  "Open Systems" is a command; "Open" is a verb.
>You can probably guess what vendors mean when they utter it (it's aimed at
>your wallet).
>
>The last open system I used actively was a VAX 750; the hardware was
>documented sufficiently well that one could write operating system code
>for it (without having to beg, grovel, sign non-disclosure agreements,
>bribe your vendor, sue your vendor, or sell your soul to the devil).

	What makes having the hardware documented "Open"?? It seems to
me that you're defining an "Open System" as any system which you can
*FIX* yourself if you don't like what the vendor's done with it. Some
of us prefer to just change vendors.

	I don't think it's *POSSIBLE* to define "Open Systems" meaningfully.
I've heard some folks define "Open Systems" in terms of applications
portability - but - do you see the hook? It's not the vendor that
provides applications portability!! (As Geoff should know, if anyone does!)

	Is it possible that "Open Systems" means "We're abrogating our
responsibility to make it GOOD in favor of making it CHEAP?"

	Other people have told me that "Open Systems" means that the
system conforms to all relevant industry and de facto standards. That's
also nice, but that still means that you get to ensure the portability
yourself, and that you're still at the mercy of the quality of the
implementation of the standard. Is it possible that "Open Systems" is
much like saying, "Here's a bunch of industry standard sheep fur. If
you want a coat, go for it!"?

	Is it possible that when someone says they want "Open Systems"
they're saying they want "cheap, fast, and good?" - most likely. One
thing for sure - in the open systems arena, there ain't no such thing
as a free lunch. Or is that an "Open Lunch"?

mjr.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: greg@unlv.edu (Greg Wohletz)
Subject: Looking for depot maintenance of DEC equipment
Originator: greg@duke.cs.unlv.edu
Organization: The Cave
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:16:11 GMT

I am looking for companies that  provide depot type maintenance of DEC
equipment,  specifically DECstations 3100 and  5000  type systems.  If
you know of a company that provides this service please  send me mail,
I'll summarize if requested.

					--Greg
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From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: net.views -- which vendor is the most open?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:11:58 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <1992Sep06.033204.4890@utoday.com>, wagner@utoday.com (Mitch Wagner) writes:
 -- 
 --        Which computer and/or operating-vendor has the greatest
 --        commitment to open systems? Which has the least? Why?
 -- 
Clearly, IBM. it is still the greatest computer vendor by a factor of five or 
so, and it tells us it is totally commited to open systems.

For the least commited, I'd try Wang, who have never wanted to know about open
systems and are in liquidation anyway. Cant get much smaller than that

                                   Thomas

-- 
*** This is the operative statement, all previous statements are inoperative.
*   email: cmaae47 @ cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau) (uk.ac.ic.cc on Janet)
*   voice: +44 71 589 5111 x4937 or 4934 (day), or +44 71 823 9497 (fax)
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From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: net.views -- which vendor is the most open?
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:43:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA

vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau) writes:
> Clearly, IBM. it is still the greatest computer vendor

robertt@vcd.hp.com (Bob Taylor) writes:
> IBM has always struck me as being the least interested in open systems

I think the poster was joking in response to a question that's somewhat
silly in the first place.

--
Eiji Hirai <hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu>    :     :    :   :  : :: ::: :::: :::::
Unix Geek for Swarthmore College        :     :    :   :  : :: ::: :::: :::::
Information Services, Swarthmore, PA, USA.      Copyright 1992 by Eiji Hirai.
I don't speak for Swarthmore College.                    All Rights Reserved.
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: How to connect modem to 3100 for dial in
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:19:45 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Sep14.160729.16161@med.umich.edu>, warlock@med.umich.edu (Brad Robertson) writes:
> 
> (I'm posting this for a friend who doesn't have access to USENET.)
> 
> We would like to connect a modem to a DECstation 3100.  The manual says that
> "auto-answer" is not available since only data lines are connected.   Actually
> we are not  interested in dialing *out* but in dialing *in* (people  doing work
> from home computers, etc).  So this may be a problem.  Is there any way around
> this problem?
> -- 

You can set up most modems so that they handle auto-answer themselves,
just tie the DTR line always high.

I've not used 3100s (or Ultrix), but based on VAX/VMS experience, the problem
with having only the data lines connected (and the tty port thus configured
as a local, non-modem line), is that the system will not respond
if the modem loses the connection, i.e. due to line noise, so anyone else
dialling in on that line can pick up someone else's session. Its a security
problem rather than a technical one. Barring root logins on such lines,
and having some sort of idle-process killer might work if you don't
have high-security requirements.

Steve


-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: dan@writer.yorku.ca (Dan O'Connell)
Subject: accountng.dat
Originator: dan@grant
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:30:18 GMT

Please help:
Can someone tell me how to start up a new ACCOUNTNG.DAT file.
The one we have is about 3 years old and it eats up almost
64k blocks. 
Yeah, I know, look in the operations manual. I did, but some
scumbag has taken the pages out!!!
Thanks for your help.
Daniel O'Connell
Faxtel Information  Systems
From: robm@ataraxia.Berkeley.EDU (Rob McNicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: DECstation SCSI buses
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:41:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ataraxia.ROBM.92Sep4154132
Distribution: world
Organization: Technical and Computing Services, U.C. Berkeley, Berkeley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: ataraxia.berkeley.edu

I have a DECstation 5000/125 with one on-board SCSI bus (of course)
and one TurboChannel SCSI bus (PMAZ-AA).  I've heard a rumor that the
on-board bus uses DMA, but the TC one doesn't.  Is this true?

If this is true, how do people recommend I configure my devices?  I
have 3 RZ57s (pretty heavy use during the day), one RRD42 (hardly ever
used), 3 8mm EXB-8200s (one is used heavily at night for backups, the
others used for occasionally making tape copies, and to serve as
spares in an emergency), and one TZK50 (only used when DEC ships us
something on TK50).  Should I put all the tapes on the non-DMA bus?  I
remember that back when I had a 3100 (no DMA), any tape I/O would
bring the system to its knees, so I'm not sure if this is the right
thing to do.

Thanks for any advice,

-Rob
--
Rob McNicholas     	    Technical & Computing Services, EECS, U.C. Berkeley
robm@ataraxia.berkeley.edu  Voice: 510/642-8633  FAX: 510/643-7846
From: delamart@reed.edu (Guy Delamarter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: VAX4300
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:57:24 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I would like to know the year the VAX4300 was introduced.

Thanks!
==================================================================
delamart@reed.edu (Guy Delamarter)
==================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: stephen@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Stephen Hardy)
Subject: HELP! Problem with RZ24 drive
Originator: stephen@vulcan.anu.edu.au
Organization: Australian National University, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:20:54 GMT





Gidday,

I have a problem with an RZ24 internal disk, in that I
cannot read it. I really need the stuff on this disk
and I was wondering if anyone out there could help me
out...


 When I fsck I get the following informative
message:
> fsck /dev/rz2a
  RZ24 unit 2: retryerr, SnsKey = MEDIUM ERROR,
   AddSnsCode = 0x11, LogBlkAddr = 16, 
   Dev = rz2a, SectNum = 16.

or with alternate super block:
> fsck -b 32 /dev/rz2a
  RZ24 unit 2: retryerr, SnsKey = MEDIUM ERROR,
   AddSnsCode = 0x11, LogBlkAddr = 48,
   Dev = rz2a, SectNum = 48

Chpt tells me it cannot read the super block,
and when in multiuser mode,
Gidday,
# fsck /dev/rz2a
** /dev/rz2a

CANNOT READ: BLK 16
CONTINUE? y

THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 16, 17, 18, 19,
20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31,

Now this looks pretty serious to me... :-(
Any help would be most appreciated.

----------------------------------------------------------
Stephen Hardy			Computer Support
stephen@aerodec.anu.edu.au	Department of Physics, ANU
----------------------------------------------------------



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