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From: nrc@cbnews.cb.att.com (N. Richard Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WLAF Ohio Glory 0-10????
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:37:22 GMT
Organization: AT&T Network Systems  -  Columbus, Ohio

From article <1992Apr06.173835.25344@demon.co.uk>, by coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk (Philip Coombes):
> 
> 
> Any ideas what the WLAF will do if Ohio follow Raleigh-Durham into 0-10 
> obscurity ????

I doubt that a team's record is as important as it's fan support in
determining whether a team stays.  I don't know how Raleigh-Durham did
in that respect but for the first two home games Ohio had 38,000 and
31,000 fans, well above the North American average.  

Granted, it will be difficult to maintain that level of support if the 
team is 0-6 by their next home game (Frankfurt, May 2) but this last game 
is really the first time the Glory have been really bad.  Even at that it 
was more the critical mistakes that killed them than overall poor play.  
It doesn't do any good to have three tightly covered receivers and one
standing alone in the endzone.  O'Hara, while shut out of the endzone 
did show much more talent than Laufenburg.

Does anyone know why the Thunder were wearing those horrid green
"home" jersies while the Glory were wearing their "away" whites?
If the team is going to rough kickers, blow coverages, hold and
fumble, thn they could at least look their best for the fans while 
doing it.  :-)
From: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Household Word)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 1992 predictions
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:59:04 GMT
Reply-To: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Household Word)
Organization: University of Nevada

In article <15280086@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson) writes:
>1> Denver Broncos 11-5
>2> K.C. Chiefs    10-6
>3> S.D. Chargers   9-7
>>>>>>>4> L.A. Raiders    7-9
>5> Seattle 'hawks  4-12
>
>The Raiders 7-9? San Diego 9-7? I think not.

 Yeah, I figure San Diego at 10-6....

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From: fredg@ariel.yorku.ca (Fredrick Gonsalves)
Subject: Re: Bubby getting divorced
Originator: fredg@juno.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na,local
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:55:46 GMT


In article <1992Apr11.172445.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, f67709317@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>> More astounding news coming out of the Steeler camp regarding Bubby Brister.
>> According to reliable sources, Bubby is getting divorced from Morganna, only
>> a few hours after marrying her in a private ceremony.  Bubby commented,
>> "I figured that marrying a big-breasted woman isn't going to help me
>> regain the touch on my passes, which I feel I need to compete as a top-
>> flight NFL quarterback."  Morganna had no comment.
>> 
>> When asked what he was going to do next, Bubby indicated he was going to
>> try to force a trade.  "The Pittsburgh fans don't appreciate what I've
>> done.  A situation like Seattle or Green Bay would be a healthier
>> situation for me, I think.  I don't have to concentrate on dealing with
>> all the pressure from the media and the owners.  People on the computer
>> nets are getting all over me, too, so I'd like to prove them wrong."
>> 
>> Neither Green Bay Head Coach Mike Holmgren nor Seattle Head Coach Tom Flores
>> would comment on possible deals to obtain Brister.  "Obviously we'd like to 
>> have a top-flight QB on our roster," Flores said.  "It's all dependent on 
>> whether Brister can fit into our system," said Holmgren, former assistant
>> coach for Joe Montana and the San Francisco 49ers.
>> -- 
>> Greg Franklin                             "Death is everywhere,
>> f67709317@ccit.arizona.edu          there are fries on the windscreen."

Is this for real???????????

FredG
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Subject: Re: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
From: correa@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:57:18 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

>>The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports column
>>that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George 
>>and wide
>>receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?

>Yes, I heard Indy was going to throw in their 2 number ones, also.
>--
>Tait Kirkham  
 
Actually the trade is:

Jeff George&Billy Brooks& Two #1's to Pitt
For Bubby Brister and Jerry Rice from SF
Jerry Rice  to Pitt for Barry Sanders and a #1 Pick]
Barry Sanders to SF for Word and Thomas from KC
Word and Thomas to Det for Cunningham from PHily
Cunningham to KC for Jeff Jeager from the Raiders
JJ to Philly for Thurman Thomas from Buff
Thomas to Al Davis for Craig From Minn

I think thats how the trade is supposed to happen:-)
I'm not sure my I turned the T.V. off before Chris Berman finished and
I might be wrong.

If any body know the actuall trade please post.


Silver & Black

:-)     :{> ;-}
From: pelle@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (Pelle Ingvarsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Phil Simms
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:03:30 GMT
Organization: Univeristy of Lund, Sweden
Originator: pelle@lotka.teorekol.lu.se

Any news on wether Phil Simms have left the Giants (which I think 
he should do) or if he' still on their pay-roll ????  The last thing I heard
was that the Raiders was interested in him .............

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From: mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WLAF Ohio Glory 0-10????
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:05:30 GMT
Organization: Twin Peaks Sheriff Department

In article <1992Apr06.173835.25344@demon.co.uk> Philip Coombes <coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk> writes:
>
>
>Any ideas what the WLAF will do if Ohio follow Raleigh-Durham into 0-10 
>obscurity ????

I don't know if the league or the owners pulled out
of Raleigh-Durham, but I think that Ohio will be
given a second chance since all the other teams
have been together for over a year and Ohio's players
and staff have only been together a short time. I
think that Ohio will win a couple near the end of the 
season.

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Matt Brockman                   Go Steelers!            mbrockma@ecn.purdue.edu
                               Go, Go, Glory!
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From: huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann)
Subject: Re: Washington Moving Up in the Draft?
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:57:38 GMT

In article <4dv4fDW00VAyNNSWdL@andrew.cmu.edu> et00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erich William Trowbridge) writes:
>I read in USA Today that the skins want to trade up for some cornerback
>to compliment Green.

Do you read everything you read in USA Today? :)
Actually, I doubt this rumor. The Redskins rarely pick because they
need help at a position. They always say they'll take "the best
available athlete." If the best available athlete is a CB when
their turn comes around, that's who they'll pick.

Joe
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From: csm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher Scott Macri)
Subject: Re: Why the Jets?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:33:41 GMT

[Alot of stuff you aready read excluded]

> I would still pick Miami over NY.  If it doesn't make sense
>to you then you ought to look at the two teams.
>QB-Miami has Dan Marino who, when Montana is out of the picture, could be
>           the league's #1 QB show
>   NY has O'Brien who is pathetic, and Nagle who is virtually a rookie
>           since he has 0 playing time.
>
>RB-Miami looks to have finnaly found a feature back in Mark Higgs and a good
>           third down/blocker/recieving back in Paige 
>   NY has Blair Thomas who despite his moments has yet to really get a
>           consistent role down, Baxter who seems to fade in and out of
>           favor, McNeil who is just to damn old and run down, or Hector
>           who I dunno what.
>
>OL-Miami doesn't hve a great line anymore But with Marino this weakness is
>           somewhat offset.
>   NY has  better OL but it isn't particularly super either
>
>WR-Miami has the edge because they have two good veterans in Clayton and
>           Duper while they are getting older for 1 more year they are still
>           a better tandem than Moore and Toon.
>   NY's Toon and Moore are a good combo but Toon shows his age more and more
>           each year, while Moore is still a young guy a little wet behind
>           the ears still though he should cure that middle this season.
>
>DL-we all know of Miami's woes here, and this is where lageman resides
>           and he is the team's only impact guy
>
>LB-will go to miami if Offerdahl comes back in peak condition.
>
>DB-edge to NY but not by a lot.
>
>Coach-BIIIIIIIIIG edge to SHula though Coslet is not going to harm the team.
>
>all and all the 'Phins have the better Offense/coaching staff and that
>will give them more explosiveness which means if one of these
>two teams is destined to put the explosive Bills out of the title streak
>they are on, I would say the Phins are the team to do it.  Now if
>I were voting on who would beat the Bills, I would go for NY cus of
>their style...it is the style that hurts the Bills the most, but
>in a 16 game season you have to go for the team with the most explosive
>ability...ecspecoially if they get their front 7 help.
>Brian mulhollnd

Just wondering...Who did the Jets beat to get the Wildcard birth?

J-E-T-S--->JETS-JETS-JETS!
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WLAF Ohio Glory 0-10????
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.075001.1058@ifi.uio.no>, nicolaya@ifi.uio.no (Nicolay Fredrik Aslaksen) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.193722.2628@cbnews.cb.att.com>, nrc@cbnews.cb.att.com (N. Richard Caldwell) writes:
>> From article <1992Apr06.173835.25344@demon.co.uk>, by coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk (Philip Coombes):
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Any ideas what the WLAF will do if Ohio follow Raleigh-Durham into 0-10 
>> > obscurity ????
>> 
>> I doubt that a team's record is as important as it's fan support in
>> determining whether a team stays.  I don't know how Raleigh-Durham did
>> in that respect but for the first two home games Ohio had 38,000 and
>> 31,000 fans, well above the North American average. 
>   
>   You are right about that. The (main) reason that Raleigh-Durham folded
>   was because of low attendance at games, and low support in general.
>   Part of the problem with Raleigh-Durham ,in my oppinion, was that 
>   the team was supposed to get fans from 3 cityes, Raleigh, Durham and
>   Chapal Hill, and when things started to go bad only people from
>   Raleigh, where the home games were, went to the games.
> 
>  [stuff deleted] 
> 
>> Does anyone know why the Thunder were wearing those horrid green
>> "home" jersies while the Glory were wearing their "away" whites?
> 
>   If it is like it was last year (which it probably is ), the team uses 
>   their colored jersies as home jersies for one half of the season, and 
>   their white jersies as home jersies the other half of the season.
> 
> 
>  Nicolay Aslaksen

Being an inhabitant of Cow-lumbus Ahia, I assure you that once these
guys learn how to play ball (next year :), we will pack Ohio Stadium
(home of the BUCKEYES!). The stadium holds 90k+ fans (no lie). Also,
Ohio Stadium is a god proximity of many bars (the Out-R-Inn and
Varsity Club come to mind) within walking distance, and the cheap
ticket prices all add up to alot of fun (especially in the spring
time).

The team has major league kicking problems, but I think that eventually
they will make out OK. People in Ohio love football, so I don't think
the franchise is likely to fold at all (besides, we are used to losing
all the time :).

-Garrett
From: djvh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (david.van handel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Phil Simms
Summary: he WAS traded!
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:06:08 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr10.140330.6693@pollux.lu.se>, pelle@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (Pelle Ingvarsson) writes:
> Any news on wether Phil Simms have left the Giants (which I think 
> he should do) or if he' still on their pay-roll ????  The last thing I heard
> was that the Raiders was interested in him .............
> 
	Last I heard he was part of a 3-way deal.  Simms to the Raiders,
Lott, Waymer, & Schroeder to Pittsburgh, and Bubby Brister to NYG.

							Dave

P.S.:  I'd take Phyllis George over Bubby any day :-)
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Subject: WANNA-BE MATHEMATICIANS
From: jroberts@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:39:20 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

To those who have responded to my NFL Preview from G-Man, you don't have to
make too big a deal about the records and the fact that they don't add up to a
.500 winning percentage.  The predictions don't lie in the records; they lie
within the place of the teams.  So, please:  stop being such a mathematician
and look at the placing of the teams.  Thank you

								G-Man

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From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: S.F. and Raiders.....
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:27:58 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <53926@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.212831.24193@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>>You refer to "got rid of" when in actuality all they did was place RC
>>and RL on Plan-B.  They (being the 49'ers) that they were in a
>>rebuilding phase and that the chance of RL and RC leaving the team was
>>not that high.  RL had just come off a mediocre season and RC was a
>>bit past his prime according to most analyists.  I believe that the
>>second fact has borne itself out rather well.
>
>A very good point and one that every 49er fan I know or read on teh net seems
>to have missed. The Niners didn't release Lott and Craig, they left them
>unprotected with the understanding that they could resign them. Lott and Craig
>chose on their own to sign with the Raiders. They were wanted back by the 49ers
>and it simply allowed them to protect 2 younger players(although Bubba Paris
>WAS protected which was a major blubber oops blunder). It was the players, not
>the team that caused the 2 popular players to wind up in LA. Why does everybody
>blame the team and absolve Ronnie and Roger of any blame?
>
Russell, you have oversimplified somewhat here. Lest ye forget, the 49ers 
began the 90 season by signing both Craig and Lott to contract extensions 
with significant pay-raises a major feature of same. They then ended the 90 
season by Plan-B-ing both of them and demanding that both take a pay cut 
*and* shorten their contracts... This is where Craig and Lott had problems. 
Both players felt 'dissed' at being left on Plan-B, Craig so much as said so 
on the interview following the Raider-49er game  but I don't think either 
would have left if there had not been significant pressure for them to a) 
make less money and b) play only one more season and then hang it up. Obviously,
both these guys love the game and hanging it up will be extremely difficult 
for both of them. By the same token, both got *more* money as opposed to less 
money by going with the Raiders.  Blame? The word hardly seems appropriate
really. The Niners underestimated the value these guys could command on the 
open market as well as their leadership value to the team. They also hurt them 
with their tactics. To the guy who maintains that Craig is obviously past his 
prime, all I can say is this. The Raiders obviously have significantly more 
talent at RB than they do at safety... Can you even name the guy who Lott 
supplanted at his position? 

-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....


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From: imprint@watserv1.waterloo.edu (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Re: DeBerg to Tampa
Keywords: What goes around...But WHY?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:03:25 GMT

In article <spork.702281398@camelot> spork@camelot.bradley.edu (Richard Izzo) writes:
>>Well KC just lost DeBerg to Tampa and Puelluer(sp) to ???.
>I believe Pueller went to Denver.  
>
>>Leaves just Krieg and Vlasic here.  Deberg was/is a good leader,
>>but he wasn't able to throw long last year; meaning the def
>>could pull up closer to the line and look for the run.  So
>>I'm not sure I how feel about DeBerg being gone.  If Krieg
>>can fill his shoes and throw long, then KC will be better
>>off.
>
>I don't know.  The loss of DeBerg is going to create a leadership vacuum
>for the Chiefs.  I've never been a fan of Kreig, and I certainly hope the
>Chiefs either make a trade to acquire Phil Simms or hit it big in the draft.
>Kreig lacks the leadership DeBerg has, and I think that's going to hurt the
>Chiefs.
>
The Chiefs won't have a leadership vacuum this year. They are a team
with character and have many leaders, actual and potential.  What they
will have in Krieg that they did not have in DeBerg is a couple of good 
years left in their QB's arm.  While true that DeBerg is one of the best
play-action passers ever, he simply lacks the physical skills to sell the
play-action anymore.  The payoff in such a strategy has to be that
you can pass the ball downfield.  Krieg will give KC that.

Peter Brown
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From: bitn@quads.uchicago.edu (nathan elery bitner)
Subject: Re: NFC Rushing leaders projected....
Reply-To: bitn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:15:49 GMT

In article <zz!vjwf@rpi.edu> ruthd@aix.rpi.edu (Davis Paul Ruth) writes:
>1. Rodney Hampton 
>2. Barry Sanders
>3. Emmitt Smith
>4> Herschel Walker
>5. Neal Anderson
>
> 

 I won't be the only one to flame you on this I guarantee:

(Deep Breath):

"WHERE THE HELL IS THURMAN THOMAS!!!!  YOU MUST BE NUTS!!!!!!"

Herschel Walker has blown chunks for two years in a row, Neal Anderson wasn't
even in the top 10 last year and *Rodney Hampton*?  This is a practical joke,
right??  He might be in the top 5, but number one???

The real top 5:

1. Barry Sanders
2. Thurman Thomas
3. Emmitt Smith
4. Neal Anderson
5. Rodney Hampton

The only reason I put Neal in fourth place is because I'm a Bears fan and his
polish sausage consumption ranks far above the other candidates.  Remember,
Anderson will finish first if God, er.. I mean, Mr. Ditka wills it.

And John, don't go posting your little Packers running backs.  They will *not*
make the top 5! :)

--


"Mini-Bears 473, Packers -7"

-- 
"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
				-Leon Trotsky
From: ug9229@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: The Brister saga continues.......
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:31:59 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.


 The Brister saga continues.........

In a deal so secret that it was not revealed to the U.S. press
the media in Britain tonight are reported to have uncovered an
astonishing network of intrigue and backstabbing involving that
classy Pittsburgh failure.

The actual mechanics of the deal are complex but here are the results

Brister goes to the Miami starting position

Pittsburgh give up all of the draft picks for the next 12 
consecutive seasons to the LA Rams in order that they can
resurrect the career of Joe Namath, who comes out of retire
ment to save the Pittsburgh franchise despite having no knees
to speak of.

 Marino goes to Minnesota for Roger Craig and Herschell Walker
plus a number of undisclosed draft picks, whilst those two backs
go to San Francisco with the niners losing O.J. Simpson to Buffalo
who, like Namath has been persuaded to don his cleats again and
do some more shuffling down in Buffalo and make all of the Buff.
fans talk about their great running game again.

 Unfortunately to get Simpson Buffalo had to give away all of 
their linebacking corps and Thurman Thomas to the Phoenix 
Cardinals, who gave a batch of under average players and all
of their draft picks Until the end of time to Miami. Miami in turn
had to give up the rest of their entire offense to Pittsburgh to secure
Brister, which the Steelers promptly gave gto the Philadelphia eagles
to secure the services of Mcmahon who will be Namath's back-up.

  I'm sure that you'll agree that this mammoth trade has major 
ramifications for the league, but when all is said and done,was
a small price to pay by Miami to secure a QB who has consistently
demonstrated his inability and ineptitude. Despite this Don Shula
was confident that with all of the draft picks which they had aquired
they could go all the way "we've gone further with worse" was his 
rumoured response. Tonight the  Steelers management was keeping tight
lipped about the trade but was rumoured to be delighted to offload
Brister and get a quarterback who could still do a better job from
his wheelchair than Bistter had done.




  Suckers never get blown!              TVM   See ya!!
                                                      S.G.
From: keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:52:08 GMT
Subject: Re: 1992 predictions
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

/ hpdmd48:rec.sport.football.pro / ruthd@aix.rpi.edu (Davis Paul Ruth) / 10:50 pm  Apr  7, 1992 / writes:



AFC West

1> Denver Broncos 11-5
2> K.C. Chiefs    10-6
3> S.D. Chargers   9-7
>>>>>>4> L.A. Raiders    7-9
5> Seattle 'hawks  4-12

The Raiders 7-9? San Diego 9-7? I think not.
From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bubby's on vacation
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:40:17 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

This week Bubby is leisurely spending his time  in the Virgin Islands.  He is
staying at a hotel on a beach with a sauna and a pool.  Sources say he was
building a sand castle shaped like Chuck Noll and later after drinking for a
few hours went back and crushed the Noll caricature.
-- 
               TONY, TONY, TONY
               BROADHEAD 312
               758-1378
From: et00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erich William Trowbridge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Moving Up in the Draft?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:25:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I read in USA Today that the skins want to trade up for some cornerback
to compliment Green.