HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 80892
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:08:30 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:

>> The UK CD5 replaces Nimbus 4:45 with Nimbus 3:33 and the cat# is ZTT
>> ZANG 33CD.   
>
> My copy says made in Germany, and the Nimbus on it is 4:45. (at least, 
> according to the time printed on the disc) 

I'm going to need all relevant catalog and matrix numbers to sort this out.
That's means *both* catalog numbers when there's more than one, as on the
UK "Lift" CD5:

   CD5:	1991 UK (ZTT ZANG 20CD) (Int: WEA 9031-75121-2)

Thanks for the help.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Orbital)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: The Orb
Summary: Orb Information Service
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:33:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Being a collector, I've never had the heart to rip out the postcard
from my import Orb CD's. Has anyone sent away to this, adn received
anything back. I'd like to know what they have to say.

Also, I recently purchased the Orb Ultraworld Double CD. Mine came
in a cardboard sleeve, similar to the Blue Room Single, with a
gatefold CD case. Are they all like this, or are some in jewell
boxes? Jus' wonderin'.

The Orb be in you, The Orb be out you.

Steve
From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:55:00 GMT
Organization: Disorganization

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:
>> if you consider 808 State techno, then they have 2 full albums you
>> should check out. 
>Three.  (Everybody forgets _Newbuild_ . . . )

Lemme get this straight.  Is Newbuild actually an 808 State album?  I know
they played on most or all of it (programmed, whatever) but I had an idea it
was in fact just a compilation of tracks released by their record label
(whatever it was back then...).

And anyway, Quadrastate isn't _that_ short.  Why don't people consider it
an album?  (Mini-album?)

-- 
== Bennett ================================== mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au ==
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From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: houston rave
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:33:50 GMT

rave one was busted by 12:30...oh well

sept 18  fantasy island  mr. roarke's revenge
sept 26  rave two

yours,m

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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: New Ambiant
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:42:33 GMT

In article <37517@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Orbital) writes:
> I was told of two new bands that are of Orb calibre, and I was
> wondering if they were worth getting:
> 
> 1) Blue Pearl: they are on WAU!/Big Life, the same label as the Orb.
> They have two 12"s, one normal release and one with Orb remixes

Blue Pearl is Durga McBroom (some American chick) + Youth (he's involved
in almost everything released on Wau!Mr.Modo... but he owns it,
so who am I to complain...).  They had a hit 2 years ago with "Naked
In The Rain" which was okay, but the rest of the stuff they've made is 
boring soul dance rock.  The woman's pretty ugly too.  Ignore them.

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
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my life spins round your every smile
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New Ambiant
Date: 1 Sep 1992 07:44:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <37517@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Orbital) writes:
>I was told of two new bands that are of Orb calibre, and I was
>wondering if they were worth getting:
>
>1) Blue Pearl: they are on WAU!/Big Life, the same label as the Orb.
>They have two 12"s, one normal release and one with Orb remixes

I think they were also produced by Youth - I had heard their name tossed
around several months ago, and when I saw the CD used for $2.99 I decided to
try it.  Bleah.  The vocals were boring, the rhythms tediuos... I haven't 
heard the new singles, but the stuff I did hear (Blue Pearl - only album I've
ever seen) I would avoid.  Just MHO...

>2) Irresistable Force: Don't know much, just heard the name

The only song I've heard by them is the first song on the second disc of
Give Peace a Dance Vol. 3.  It's really not bad at all;  it's got faster
rhythms and harsher sounds than I would expect from an Orb track, so the
comparison doesn't really hold. But still quite good (as is 70% of GPAD3)

	Brian

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From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:59:37 GMT


I am not st10t@jane.uh.edu (Bloo Square).  I didn't say:
>Messiah's "Temple of Dreams" has excerpts (dia/monologue) from
>the movie "Running Man."  Now, I could have said things like
>"Who loves you, and who do you love?!" and make it sorta sound 
>like Richard Dawson (from the movie), but I'm sure the Messiah
>him/her/themself took it directly from the movie;
>So, does this require permission from the movie company (CarolCo is it?)

technically, yes.  in reality, most bands just do not bother.  if you're on
a major label like columbia, you're in luck - you can sample any movie that
came out from columbia pictures with no problems.  otherwise, if your parent
company doesn't own the movie, you're supposed to pay for your samples.
recently twitch had to re-edit a song for a band that used samples from
total recall and hadn't gotten them cleared.  two versions were created - an
international one (with copyright infringing samples) and an american one
(free of samples).

of course, if you're a small group and you're only going make 1000 copies of
your record, you'll probably escape unscathed.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (graham Freeland )
Subject: Re: Hard Wax
Followup-To: alt.rave
Originator: gcf@newton
Keywords: US techno
Organization: Signal Processing Division, University of Strathclyde. Glasgow
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:00:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.184113.3977@athena.mit.edu> nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira) writes:
>In article <21AUG199223413365@vms2.iscs.nus.sg> nuscss1@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes:
>>Well I've got 2 rather awesome 12" called Hardwax which has got no titles
>>whatsoever with just a sticker from the shop which I got from saying that
>>it's US techno...Something to look forward to if this kind of quality stuff
>>comes out.... 
>
>  I know of 5 Hard Wax releases:
>
> HW-001 -- Missing Channel
> HW-002 -- Radar (Picture of bald guy in centre of 12")
> HW-003 -- ????????
> HW-004 -- Life After Mutation
> HW-005 -- Dr. Kevorkian's Suicide Machine
>
> I have never seen HW-003 and would be very interested in finding out
> some information about it, if there's anyone out there in the know.
> Of the four I have, I like #2 and 4 most (#4 has 6 tracks, quite varied)
> #5 is really growing on me.  I think they (Hard Wax) have some connection
> with Underground Resistance but I'm not sure.
>

Locally, the Dr. Kevorkian's Suicide Machine EP is labelled as 
`by' Underground Resistance, who I believe either have or are
about to release an LP, "Revolution For Change". Having not 
heard the above EP as yet, a brief description?

> -Chris Teixeira
>
> P.S. When you need a break from the Orb try Coltrane's 'Meditations'.

It's at this point I'm inclined to say, "Forget the Orb, go straight to 
Coltrane...and Ornette...and Don Cherry...all the false promises of Acid
Jazz".

Graham Freeland.
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From: illusion@buhub.bradley.edu (Jeremy Riley)
Subject: Curve: danceable?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 00:36:04 GMT

	I have lately been listening to 'dream pop', specifically
Curve with their latest release 'Doppleganger' (sp. ?, sorry).  It was
given an average review by Enter. Weekly, but I still love it.  One of its
elements is a club rhythm track.  As something different from techno
and house, it still strikes me as danceable.  My question being that
would Curve be now or in the future be fitting for a rave scene.
I'm always looking for something new.
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From: ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu (David Mann)
Subject: Song ID Time...
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:45:54 GMT

OK, sorry about this guys, but i can't find the name/group that does the
song with the sweepy synths and _cat meows_ (of all things) over the
synths.  (All i know is that it's not Dee-Lite)  Can anyone help?

--
May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.

David_Mann@ncsu.edu
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From: st10t@jane.uh.edu (Bloo Square)
Subject: RAVE ONE - Houston, Texas
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:53:00 GMT


            GREEN CRAYONS LTD.

                RAVE ONE
            Saturday, Aug. 29
              713-867-8929

    [Advocated by Marvin the Martian!]
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 22:20:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

This whole debate reminds me of those freaks who used to say that synthesizers
were destructive to music because they lacked the 'warmth', 'expression',
(insert more musical buzzwords) of pianos. (it also reminds me of the piano vs.
harpsichord debate few hundred yrs. ago).  New technology implies new forms
of creativity.


-H
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Howard Berkey						howard@netcom.com
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time
to reform.
		-- Mark Twain
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 04:07:32 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:

> So your only problem that I can see is that you spent all your money on
> those CDs and now you want to dj with them but you can't pitch change. 
> Oh well, lesson learned. 

In the larger scheme of things buying a dual-deck Denon DJ CD player like
Pete's doesn't cost a hell of a lot more than a pair of 1200s. Don't get
me wrong . . . my collection is split about 50/50 vinyl vs. CD, and I
don't plan to stop buying LPs and 12"s until they're completely
unavailable or I die, whichever comes first.  But DJing with CDs today
isn't anywhere near as tough as it was five years ago.

So you can't scratch.  Big deal.   

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Wanda & Psudo KLF are Coming to Austin also, advance reviews please!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 08:03:42 GMT

In <78909@ut-emx.uucp> alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace) writes:
>As you can tell, this doesnt look very promising.  If someone can confirm
>that this is the rip-off that it seems to be, I'll probably make like a
>striking teamster and hold up a big "Its not the REAL KLF" sign up outside
>the club where she is to play.  Hell, since all of the nightclubs in this
>town are located in one little 5 block by 5 block area, I might even
>consider putting out flyers that warn people it is a scam.  Sound cruel?

I had you up to here, and didn't think anything extreme, until...

>Well it also helps that I have a personal thing against the
>cocaine-selling, butt-pinching, flaming in-your-face faggot of a club owner
>that is arranging this thing.  I'd really like to see the bastard loose out
>big on this one.

Good god.  It's one thing to be indignant about copyright infringement
and rip-off shit, but if the only reason you're really worked up about this
is the owner of this club, you've got some serious problems.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
              My soul seemed as foul as smoke from burning cat fur
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From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: move me
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 02 Sep 92 12:36:36 PDT

In article <1992Sep2.145724.5323@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>Does anyone know of anyway to produce pressure waves below 20HZ.  I think
>if you could do that at a rave, it would be a cool effect...

	Yeah... BIIIG speakers. :) Hook 'um up to an amp with a LFO as an
input, and I'm sure you could get pressure waves below 20Hz. Maybe hydraulics?
hehe...

crash!tfinn
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Model 500 LP???
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:46:29 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

In article <guest.16@dhhalden.no>
guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:
 
>Hellooo...
>
>I read in a German magazine called "Frontline" that MODEL 500 (Juan Atkins
>from Detroit, as if you didn't know) is going to release an LP soon (on an
>underlabel of R&S Records?)!
>
>Could somebody please confirm or deny this, as my german is very poor?
 
According to an unimpeachable source, this is not true. :-(
 
>Oivind Idso
 
--Eric
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: The music is the drug!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:16:10 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug29.203332.17633@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>
>I think it's worth mentioning that I have never had an "experience so
>intense that I'll never remember it" except on Alcohol, and that wasn't
>intense it was just numbing.  And that flashbacks are almost as mythological
>as Strychnine in blotter acid.

flashbacks DO happen, a friend of mine spent most of her life from
14-28 on LSD and says she has a minor problem every once in awhile
where it looks like the telephone poles are walking around in 
tennis shoes
but i dont know how trustworthy that is

i DO know that i myself have had some minor flashbacks 
nothing from a traumatic experience, i just will
see things look LSDish when im not on LSD

BUT strychnine in LSD is a no
unless some guy goes psycho and actually does it
but who would waste the time or money?
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: move me
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:57:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


Does anyone know of anyway to produce pressure waves below 20HZ.  I think
if you could do that at a rave, it would be a cool effect...

Also: Music ID time:  First, is this song GO by moby, and second if it is
what remix is it:  It has the go sample over and over, and is very upbeat
but it is not the rainforest mix.  The only other sample I recognize is 
the "get it together" sample from "pollywannacraka" by PE.

Gil "d1g1ta1 dru1d" cyberpun(k)
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From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:06:50 GMT

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>i REALLY REALLY REALLY second the idea of reading 
>Albert Hofmann's book _Problem Child_

Ditto.

>lsd _IS_ toxic, although it has never been shown to cause a 
>human death, it was found to be toxic in mice, rats, rabbits, and one elephant
>it took about 50 mg/kg of mouse to kill it and .3 grams
>was given to a 5,000 kg elephant and it died leading to a 
>toxicity of .06 milligams of LSD per kiligram of elephant
>
>OF course the average dose on a tab is supposed to be 100 micrograms
>so if i had the same toxicity as the one elephant, i would need
>3,600 micrograms or 36 hits... its more likely that human
>toxicity is in the range of 600 micrograms/kg or 6 hits/kg
>so dont drop several sheets of acid and dont worry about it

The brain size is the crucial thing.  You're just taking into
account body weight.

More to the point, I've got a reference to 8 people all snorting about
a gram of 80-90% pure LSD Tartrate thinking it was cocaine.  4 of them
just recieved valium, the other 4 slipped into brief coma's but survived
(with medical attention...)

>dont dose people without their knowledge
>dont dose alone

Yup and Yup.

>there was strychnine found by Sandoz (the company that first made LSD)
>in black market samples of the drug, but other studies have not
>found it... dont know what person would waste money on strychnine
>when they can just sell you blank paper

If someone can find me blotter thats been cut with strychnine, I'll pay
them twice the cost of their getting it analyzed.  LSD is as pure as often
as MJ -- more pure than MDMA (excepting the inert cuts in MDMA).

>dont get drugs from people you dont know

Yup.

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From: ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu (David Mann)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:40:00 GMT

jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (if you love your art, die for it) writes:
: NuMark is out of business BTW, and you might be able to find one 
: cheaply.

I was looking a dual CD units recently and saw a nice NuMark with more
features and for less $$$ than the Denon.  I asked the guy about NuMark
going out of business and he said they had been bought by MTX?
Supposedly MTX is going into the DJ Equipment/Mixer/etc business (from
what he said) and they will still service NuMark equipment.  Anyone else
heard this?

--
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
                                                   -- A Deep Thought
David_Mann@ncsu.edu
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From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Subject: Re: LFO
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:59:47 GMT

pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>ee3401cb@carina.unm.edu (Student Class Account) writes:
>>[LFO isn't a one-man band"]
>Someone else mailed me about this as well (Bennet?).  I was always under the
>impression that LFO was one person, especially due to his lyrics, and sparse
>crediting on the CDs.  Someone posted a concert review a while back that also
>indicated it was one person running the show.  Does anyone know exactly what
>the roster is?

Definitely two people: Mark Bell and Jez [sic] Varley, a couple of young'uns
from Leeds or thereabouts.

>As for availability... I have never been able to get "Frequencies".  This
>despite the fact that I've pestered Prime Cuts EVERY TIME I'VE ORDERED from
>them.  So either they are ignoring it, or they can't get it.  The only singles
>I've got are "LFO" and "What is House?"  Does anyone have a discography?

It's weird that you can't get it.  It's everywhere here in Australia, even
though it hasn't been released here (I think).  I've seen the UK and US
versions, even US cutouts in one Sydney shop.  Pete, you should just order
it from Tower or some other big record store, they're bound to have it.

As for other LFO releases, I know of "We Are Back", the second single released
in the UK, and "Love Is The Message"/"Tan Ta Ra", released in the USA.  They
also have an exclusive track, "Slow Down Speedy", on the Volume Three
compilation.  And of course "Change" on Give Peace A Dance 2.

-- 
== Bennett ================================== mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au ==
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From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: LSD reply to replies.
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:48:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Avi writes:
> X is much more symmetrical don't you think?

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	ps.  Send me thee latest transmission, Seattle.
				
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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: the KLF in boulder
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:06:20 GMT

sprother@nyx.cs.du.edu (stevyn e prothero) writes:

>the KLF & Wanda D. play at the marquee this thurs sept 3rd.

PARDON?

KLF?

What the hell is going on?  Is KLF back together and touring?  Is this a one
stop?  If this is a real show, I'm going to hop in my car and start driving,
NOW.
-- 
			  orb be in u, orb be out u

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Xref: sparky alt.rave:2805 rec.music.industrial:10030
From: rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Mars 103.1 is dead
Date: 1 Sep 1992 22:30:30 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, USA
Distribution: rec
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In-reply-to: douellet@beach.csulb.edu's message of Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:16:22 GMT

In article <Btx77C.60q@beach.csulb.edu> douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette) writes:

   I heard from one of my friends who is a pretty good friend of Egil that they
   are looking into the _possibilty_ of buying a very small/weak station that
   may be going out of buisness soon. That's not to say that this station
   exists, rather that this is what they are looking for. They would then
   start a new Techno/Alternative radio station. I would expect this to happen
   for a while though.

A coworker and I were talking about something like this today.  Not a whole
radio station, but maybe a 4 hour show, heck even 1 hour, on a local station
during the graveyard slot, 2am to 6am...  sorta like Don's All-Night Truck
Driver's show.  True, the listenership will be small, but at least this stuff
will still be on the air.  Maybe the Swede himself might want to help.  :)

I need net.wisdom!  If anybody out there knows how one goes about doing
something like this, I'm ALL EARS!  Heck, if we can pull this thing off,
I'll need net.music.requests :)

   I wish all of DJ's from MARS good luck.

Ditto.

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