From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: are jews racists?
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:56:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.093741.29858@cc.uow.edu.au> u9066624@cc.uow.edu.au (Tippu Hassan) writes:
>
>hi all
>
>im a new commer to the group. i dont know if this topic has been discussed
>earlier or not but i would like to know if the israelis feel guilty at all
>for what they are doing to the  palistinians.

You seem to totally ignore the deeds/crimes of the Arabs. Teerorism
has/is elevated into new heights in the hand of the PLO gang.
Palestinians are trying for 50 years to throw the Jews into the sea
in one way or another. [ I think that the current drive to Plaestinian
state is just the newest tactic to accomplish that goal].

>
>it seems to me that the palistinians are having to go through the same hell
>jews went through under the nazi's.

This is the most blatant lie in this post (although there are many
contestors). I never heard of a Jewish explicit statement of intention
and innumerable tries to extreminate and throw the Germans out of
Germany. The Jews were maliciously and with no provocation whatsoever 
slaughtered systematically. The Palestinians are suffering the fruits
of their stubornness and schemes to throw the Jews out of their long
dreamt homeland. Even though the palestinians with the aid of the Arab
world never hid their hostility toward Israel, Israel still treats them
far more honestly than any Arab (or indeed Western) Nation would have 
treated such an insistent rebelious people inside their own country.

Any comparison to the Nazi era is a gross violation of the memory of
the 6 million victims, in their name I demand apology from the poster.
It is also a blatant lie, with not a shred of reliablity and evidence.

>is there any place in the world for a people without a land??????

The Palestinian has a land, it is mistakenly called Jordan and has
a foreign monarch ruling it. 70% of Jordan's population is Palestinian.

I may remind the dear poster that the Kurds in Iraq/Iran/Turkey are
suffering much more and yet have much more right to a state of their 
own.

>does any one  care????????/
>
>in my own opinion the meretz party in israel has the    best stand on the
>issue of co-existance.
>
>ie two seperate states

You may very well think that, I think that it is total naivette and
will conclude in the worst Arab-Israeli war ever. This stand will bring
Lebabnon into Tel-Aviv. I think this is the shortest way to "Hurban
Bait Shlishi" (Destruction of the third temple).
>
>i think once palistine is created, the  muslims shouldn't have
>   any problems in recognizing israel.

I think that the poster is indeed naive - what obstructed the Muslims 
from recognizing Israel before 1967? The plaestinians?

>I would especially like to hear the point of view of people actually living
>in  israel.
>
Hope you will apologize for your most offending analogy which is
on the verge of Anit-semitism even if due to ignorance.

David.
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