From: acb@Ziggy.csl.ncsu.edu (Andrew C. Burnette)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.sex.wizards,soc.men,misc.kids
Subject: Re: About circumcision
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:24:20 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Dec19.015857.25809@colorado.edu>, maman@mars.Colorado.EDU (Nathan M. Maman) writes:
|> Howdy guys,
|> 
|> M.Coffin|>       Griping about not having a foreskin is about as
|> M.Coffin|>       stupid as a woman complaining that her genetic
|> M.Coffin|>       heritage didn't give her bigger breasts.  You can't
|> M.Coffin|>       do anything about it, so you might as well not worry.
|> 
|> I can't do anything about it.  But I'll perhaps have someday to make a
|> decision concerning my children.  On the opposite, if I want to modify
|> the breasts size of my daughter, it'll be more difficult :-)
|> 
|> By the way, I believe most people think ``excision'' instead of
|> circumcision.  Excision is some usage in some parts of Africa that
|> disallow normal sex life for girls.  For my part, perhaps it would
|> have been better with the foreskin but like it is, that's okay.  So
|> claiing it a mutilation is too strong.
|> 
|> By another way, Rambam (Maimonides) explained why Jews are
|> circumsized.  The hygienic part is not the main part.  I remember
|> (well I hope) he wrote that humans were made perfect by God but as
|> they were part mud, they have a moral imperfection: they like sex too
|> much.  So to avoid masturbation and lust, they remove this part so the
|> penis will irritate easily.
That really bugs me.  Religeous leaders know little enough about sex just to make them
dangerous.  Unless of course we're talking about stopping the spread of aids. NOT.
|> 
|> 					Nat
|> 
|> PS: I forgot: I'm Jewish, circumsized and therefore I don't know how
|> it feels to have foreskin (prepuce?).
|> 
|> --
|> M. Nathan M. MAMAN,  Campus Box 429,  Boulder COLORADO 80309, USA
|> EM:maman@boulder.Colorado.EDU TEL:(303)492-4481 FAX:(303)492-4990

On a lighter note.....
Someone mentioned having their kid circumsized so he would look like the other boys.
I remeber being a little kid(about 2 or 3 years old) and going to the bathroom
with dad(he passed away when I was 3 1/2yrs old) and noticing his was 'different'
not to mention as big as my arm(or at least I thought).  He was not circumsized,
and I was.  I just figured I would be like him when I got 'grown up.'
Gee,  I guess that didn't work out as [I] planned. The ignorance of childhood.
My peter is still not as big as my arm either.....that heaven!
in any case, I haven't suffered because of this,  and my peter works just fine!

But, I am truely offended that now I find out no anesthetic is used,  and
their seems to be no reason for this,  unless the rabbis from the Jewish faith seem
to have the same problems as the catholic priesthood,  with little kids that is.
And no,  I am not sure what religeon my mother was practicing at that point...seems 
as though she tried several out in the 60's.

Maybe the medical community could sew a zipper into the foreskin and in one zip,
one could be politically correct for any situation....hehe.  I am just glad my doctor
didn't sneeze while cutting......

Maybe we could get designer cuts.  Maybe like Bart Simpson's hairdoo.  I could only 
imagine the reaction......

Can anyone imagine lying helpless as someone with a knife came at your favorite toy,
or at least your second favorite(I think my girlfriend's at least ties).  Arghhh.

Happy Holidays!
p.s.  in regards to my 'peter' reference,  please substitute 'prick' or whatever you
like.  Penis and Vagina are such bizzarre names. 
Vagina isn't even an accurate name for the female genitals as their is a lot more to them.
Later,
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Andrew C. Burnette  acb@ncsu.edu 
Electrical and Computer Engineering

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