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From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Subject: Don Cherry's Coach's Corner summary - Jan. 2
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:44:17 GMT



Here's a summary of Don Cherry's coach's corner from January 4, 1993
from a Calgary game at the Saddledome.

[Note: some of the following posting contains pro-Canadian statements.
If this offends you, you will probably want to skip this post.]

Topics
------

Gary Roberts, All-Star Balloting, Rangers/Jets trade, Midget hockey
tournament, Junior Hockey Tournament, Spengler Cup

Summary
-------

The first subject covered was Gary Roberts and the All-Star balloting.
(Don was encouraging Calgary fans to vote for Roberts, and even brought
a stack of ballots with him to give to fans at the game.) They showed
a segment of an interview with Roberts, and he was glad to have
Don's support... "If you're going to have anyone speak for you, it
may as well be Don".

However, the deadline for all-star voting had long past (Dec. 15.)
Don criticized the NHL for holding its balloting so far ahead of
the NHL game. Ron Maclean looked at a ballot that Don had already
filled out... two names were filled in... Gary Roberts and Doug Gilmour.

Next, they discussed the trade where the Rangers sent King and Domi
to the Jets in exchange for Olczyk. Don thought that it was a good
trade for Winnipeg... Both can play hockey, King is a character
player, and Ranger fans will be disappointed to see them go.

Don pointed to the number of fans at the Winnipeg game following
the trade... Many fans, the team won, etc. He questioned Winnipeg
management, whether this lesson was sinking in, and asked why
they were stacking their team with Russians. Don also predicted
that Domi would become the most popular Jet player ever.

Ron mentioned Finland's victory in an international Midget tournament
at the Calgary Saddledome. (None of the Canadian teams made it to
the final.) Don claimed that the Canadians were at a big disadvantage
since they were sending club teams, while other teams were composed
of all-stars.

The topic of Canada's victory at the Canadian Junior tournament was
discussed next. (Canada cinched the gold medal by beating the
Japan team earlier that day.) Don pointed out the fact that Canada
did not embarass Japan by beating them 20-1, but 'only' beat them
8-1. That's the "Canadian way". (They had to be nice to Japan, since
"They might own us some day".)

Don recalled people who only a few years ago were criticizing Canadian
coaching, saying they weren't teaching Canadians to skate, pass, etc.
Only Don stood up to say Canadians were the best. 

Finally, Don brought up the Spengler cup, where the Canadian team
was thrown together, but still managed to win gold.

Don finished with a message to kids... "Don't get caught in the
'Canadian Syndrome', where if its Canadian its bad... [Canadians
are best...Russians], they're nothing."


Rating
------

I'd give it 6.5 out of 10.
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Gretzky's Return and the Kings Slump
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:58:09 GMT



Well, I go away for the holidays and the Kings manage to
     S
      L
       I
        D
         E
all  the way down to third place with some of the most atrocious
hockey playing I have seen in awhile.  But on to the good news (or
at least I hope it is good news!) for the Kings.  Gretzky has
made an announcement that he hopes to return to the ice  
on January 16 for the game against Winnipeg.  The Kings definitely
need some help at center right now so his return, provided 
his level of play has not been hindered by this injury, gives the
team something to look forward to.

However, for the Kings to jump out of this
slump, they also need to get their defense back
on track.  The injuries to Reichel and Blake and the lack of
aggressive defense by Huddy, Coffey, and McSorley have not  
helped.  The only gripe I have with Melrose is that he switches
McSorley between playing forward and playing defense, and therefore,
when McSorley is out defensively, he often plays too much like a
forward to be effective (and IMHO does not have the talent to
be a forward anyway!).  On the plus side, Darryl Sydor, a rookie 
defenseman has truly been inspiring on the ice the past couple
of weeks.  The Kings need to start building a team of younger
players who can develop over the next few years if they ever 
want to be a true threat in the NHL.

Well, enough of my ponderings (I just have not had access to
the net for two weeks -- so I got carried away :-)

                                B back to the top of the Smythe Division!
                               M        (and NO MORE injuries!!)
                              I
                             L    
It's time to start the long C


Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!


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Subject: Ice Hockey Newsgroup.
From: ioffe@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Ioffe Nicolay)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:54:25 GMT
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel




	Hello, netters!

Do you know the name of ice-hockey(canadian - NHL) newsgroup?

Nick.
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From: dpappas@pdx125.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Derek Pappas)
Subject: Re: Who wants what.
Reply-To: dpappas@ichips.intel.com
Organization: INTEL X86 Focus Group
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:53:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.134738.28843@aifh.ed.ac.uk>, dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk writes:
|> The following message is from Derek Pappas, who hasn't yet found out
|> how to DIH. It's very easy (must be if I can do it :-) ask about, I'm
|> sure someone can tell you.
|> 
|> =====================================================================
|> 
|> We would like to see :
|> 
|> 1. Intl. results (test matches and tournements)
|> 
|> 2. Scedule of upcoming intl. matches.
|> 
|> 3. where to get cheap video tapes of recent internations.
|> 
|> 4. Invitations for foreign touring teams. I can put together a
|> competitive team with ex and current Candian and US players. We want
|> to go to Holland/Germany or Hong Kong

Thanks. I figured it out.

-- 

Derek

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From: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Who wants what.
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:47:38 GMT
Reply-To: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

The following message is from Derek Pappas, who hasn't yet found out
how to DIH. It's very easy (must be if I can do it :-) ask about, I'm
sure someone can tell you.

=====================================================================

We would like to see :

1. Intl. results (test matches and tournements)

2. Scedule of upcoming intl. matches.

3. where to get cheap video tapes of recent internations.

4. Invitations for foreign touring teams. I can put together a
competitive team with ex and current Candian and US players. We want
to go to Holland/Germany or Hong Kong


-- 

Derek

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dpappas@ichips.intel.com            2111 NE 25th Ave.
503-696-4546			    Hillboro, OR. 97123
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From: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Glenfiddich Day 2 Results.
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:46:16 GMT
Reply-To: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland


The Glenfiddich Interntional Indoor Hockey Tournament

Results Day 2 - Sunday 10 January 1993, Kelvin Hall Glasgow Scotland.

(3 A) Menzieshill  - 5 
(4 B) Indespension - 2

(3 B) St Albans  - 8
(4 A) WAC Vienna - 7

First Semi-final
(1 A) Harvestehuder - 7
(2 B) Crefelder     - 6

Second Semi-final
(1 B) Buccaneers - 8
(2 A) Adanacs    - 3

Play-off 7/8
Indespension - 6
WAC Vienna   - 4

Play-off 5/6
Menzieshill - 5
St Albans   - 2

Play-off 3/4
Crefelder - 4                                       - 6 
Adanacs   - 4  at full time, no score in extra time - 7 - after penalties

Crefelder shot what would have been the winning goal as the hooter went. The
umpire whistled after the ball had crossed the line and gave the goal.
Immediately there was disagreement from Adanacs and the umpires refered to
the technical committee for guidance and the goal was disallowed, much
to the frustration of Crefelder.

Final
Harvestehuder - 7                                   - 9
Buccaneers    - 7 at full time, no score extra time - 8 - after penalties

Buccaneers shot two of their three penalties wide of the post.

Final Placings
1 Harvestehuder
2 Buccaneers
3 Adanacs
4 Crefelder
5 Menzieshill
6 St Albans
7 Indespension
8 WAC Vienna

I didn't see who got the man of the tourni award as everyone was leaving, but
I know it was one of the Harvestehuder players.

All in all a very enjoyable weekend, even if the seating is extreamly
uncompfortable, I got food poisoning from the pub Richard took me to for
lunch (but I forgive him coz he got me in for free - it's not what but who),
and I was woken up at 5 in the morning by my drunken flatmates before having to
get up at 7 to go through on Sunday :-) Oh yes in the wee boys game Inverleith
beat Western 2-0.

D.

PS Richard didn't go on Sunday so I'd have to type it in :-)
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Glenfiddich Results : Day 1
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:55:27 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Results of the first day (Saturday January 9th) of the Glenfiddich
International Indoor Hockey Tournament held in the Kevin Hall, Glasgow.

Pool A
------

	NMP Menzieshill  4 - 6 Adanacs
	  Harvestehuder  9 - 7 WAC Vienna
	     WAC Vienna  3 - 9 Adanacs
	  Harvestehuder  7 - 6 NMP Menzieshill
	     WAC Vienna  5 - 6 NMP Menizeshill
	        Adanacs  3 - 7 Harvestehuder


			 P  W  D  L  GF  FA  P  GD
			--------------------------
	  Harvestehuder  3  3  0  0  23  16  6  +8
	        Adancas  3  2  0  1  18  14  4  +2
	NMP Menzieshill  3  1  0  2  16  18  2  -2
	     WAC Vienna  3  0  0  3  15  24  0  -9

Pool B
------

	     Buccaneers 10 - 4 Indespension Western
	      St Albans  3 - 7 Crefelder
	      Crefelder  8 - 5 Buccaneers
	      St Albans 13 - 7 Indespension Western
	     Buccaneers 14 - 6 St Albans
	      Crefelder  6 - 7 Indespension Western


			 P  W  D  L  GF  FA  P  GD
			---------------------------
	     Buccaneers  3  2  0  1  29  18  4  +11
	      Crefelder  3  2  0  1  21  15  4  +6
	      St Albans  3  1  0  2  22  28  2  -6
   Indespension Western  3  1  0  2  18  29  2  -11

Richard.
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From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Glenfiddich Player of the Tournament
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:59:28 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


	Since Daniel was too busy feeling sorry for himself
	with his food posioning (huh ! that the gratitude
	you get - I hope the reciprocal doesn't happen on 
	his birthday to me !) he forgot to post the winner
	of the Player of the Tournament award.

	In previous years, this has gone to John Christie
	of Menzieshill and Taco van der Honert of the Dutch
	Buccaneers side, to name but two. This year, the
	title was awarded to Stephan Saliger of the German
	winning team Harvestehuder.

	(In my opinion this only went to him because Taco
	had already won the title before !!!)

-------

	For those interested, the weekend also saw a Women's
	European Tournament held in Crystal Palace. Although
	I never bothered to take note of the scores, this I
	can divulge :

	Final 		Germany 8 : 3 England

	3rd place	Spain
	4th place	Scotland

	Just for those interested .... Have we any women netters ?

Richard.
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From: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:40:14 GMT
Reply-To: dcu@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe)
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

Well in true rec.field.hockey fashion I find 11 messages and only two that
have not expired!

As I have tried to start some threads, if any one has posted anything that
they or someone else thinks I should see could they please post it again,
or email to me so I can try to keep something going - THANKS :-)

In article <1993Jan4.153152.23559@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> muradia@bnr.ca writes:
>I have played competitive hockey for several years but with all these rules being
>changed so often now I have lost almost all interest in playing this game. How

That's a very sad thing to say. 

>easy will it be for us (who have grown a little older) to adapt to the rule of
>Obstruction (where you can do a 360 spin)? I think someone should take a serious

Obstruction is a slightly odd case as I don't believe that it was the rule
itself that was changed, rather the interpretation has been modified to
try to encourage umpires to enforce it the way the rule was intended.

>look at all these rule changes. I agree that some things need to be changed to
>make this game for interesting for the spectators, but where do you stop.

I must admit it seems that we are still tinkering with some fairly major
rules when we might have expected them to be settled by now. At least
part of the need to change is caused by the continuing improvements in
hockey equipment which is allowing people to hit the ball much harder. One
posible solution (which may be under consideration) is to outlaw sticks
made from certain materials, or to change the ball. 

On the whole the rules are changed to 1) improve the playability of the game,
2) to improve the safety of the game and 3) to improve the game as a spectator
sport. I guess it can be hard to suit all three goals at once.

In this country at least (Scotland) each club is asked every year if there
are any rules they think should be changed, and clubs are encouraged to 
try out new rules (such as no offside) and report their experiences. I am
sure if enough people were unhappy about certain rules than there are
ways for them to express this to those that decide on the rules and 
hopefully keep our game alive and kicking (and some spectators would be
nice :-)

D.
From: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:11:02 GMT
Reply-To: dcu@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe)
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

In article <29926@castle.ed.ac.uk> airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.134014.28523@aifh.ed.ac.uk> dcu@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe) writes:
>
>	[...rubbish deleted...]

Cheers Richard, glad to know someone reads it even if they don't appreciate
it :-)

>	"may be under consideration" ?? By who ?? You ??

A changing room rumour I'm afraid, but it was from our fixtures secretary
(I think) so I imagine it was based on at least District level rumours :-)

Of course the manufacturers aren't going to be pleased if it happens,
especially if the ban 'wiggly' sticks too.

>	By the way Daniel, I've got some of those articles,
>	drinkies ...?

Good and of course :-)

D.
From: phudm@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Ampleford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Date: 10 Jan 1993 22:51:05 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <29926@castle.ed.ac.uk>, airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan5.134014.28523@aifh.ed.ac.uk> dcu@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe) writes:
|> 
|> 	[...rubbish deleted...]
|> 
|> >hockey equipment which is allowing people to hit the ball much harder. One
|> >posible solution (which may be under consideration) is to outlaw sticks
|> >made from certain materials, or to change the ball. 
|> 
|> 	"may be under consideration" ?? By who ?? You ??
|> 
|> 	[...more rubbish deleted...]
|> 
|> 	By the way Daniel, I've got some of those articles,
|> 	drinkies ...?
|> 
|> Richard.

My club recieved a letter that I think was from the Hockey Association that stated
that as of that date, they were going to stop the use of "new" sticks that were not of
conventional design (ie. no wigglies etc.) and of the now accepted materials.
They would then allow a few years for the old unconventionally designed sticks to
get broken etc. and out of common use before banning them from matches.

I cannot remember the exact wording as I am university in Warwick and my home
club is in Penzance.

	Steve :)
From: kumar@ee.rochester.edu (K.N. Kumar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: What's the new interpretation for Obstruction
Summary: new rules?
Keywords: Obstruction
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:30:34 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

I haven't been following the thread on  the new interpretation of obstruction
rules. Can someone explain?
cheers
kumar
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Dept. of Electrical Engineering		voice-mail:(716)275-1252
Univ. of Rochester, Rochester NY 14623
From: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: 5th Mens Junior World Cup
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:07:57 GMT
Reply-To: dcu@aifh.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

The 5th Men's Junior World Cup will be held in Terrassa, Spain, from the
9th to the 19th September 1993.

Pool A : Cuba, England, Egypt, Germany, Malaysia, Netherlands.

Pool B : Argentina, Australia, Korea, Pakistan, Scotland, Spain.

D.
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Glenfiddich Indoor International Invitational Tournament
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:57:09 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


	Yes folks ! This most prestigous of tournaments takes
	place in the Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland over this
	Saturday and Sunday (9th & 10th January).

	The tournament usually attracts top European teams
	although the Australian National Indoor Team has been
	known to take part (but under an assumed name as it is
	only a "club" tournament) during their European Tours.

	Dutch "club" the Bucaneers have also taken part before,
	their team being present and ex-internationals. So, all
	in all, the standard is very high.

	As myself and Daniel will be going thru to Glasgow on
	both days, I'm sure one of us will oblige with the
	results (probably me 'cos I'm an undergrad with no work
	although Daniel is a PHd who does nothing !!).

	Keep and eye out on Monday ! Cheers.

Richard.
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From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Rule changes
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:13:01 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1993Jan5.134014.28523@aifh.ed.ac.uk> dcu@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Daniel Cunliffe) writes:

	[...rubbish deleted...]

>hockey equipment which is allowing people to hit the ball much harder. One
>posible solution (which may be under consideration) is to outlaw sticks
>made from certain materials, or to change the ball. 

	"may be under consideration" ?? By who ?? You ??

	[...more rubbish deleted...]

	By the way Daniel, I've got some of those articles,
	drinkies ...?

Richard.
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From: nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Schedule of international events
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:54:59 GMT
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Hi folks,

Does any field hockey wizard out there knows about any international upcoming 
events. Even if you know a rough date I will appreciate.

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From: jug@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Casanova)
Subject: roller hockey
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: all
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:16:57 GMT

	I am a member of the Purdue University Roller Hockey Club and we
are in need of teams to play from other area colleges.  This is our first
year as a club.  If you are interested please e-mail me at 
jug@sage.cc.purdue.edu because I don't read this newsgroup often.


				Thank you for your time,

					Jeramie