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From: tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 1AA Poll Thoughts and Questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:55:40 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Oct13.174005.2664@mlb.semi.harris.com>, by dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington):
> As a 1AA follower, I am a little amazed by the

	Could you please POST the current the top 25 poll??
	I missed it in the local paper. 
	Thanks.
-- 
	Timothy J. Shannon    	e-mail -  timothy-shannon@uiowa.edu
"I certainly don't want to quit playing Iowa State. Not at all.  I mean we're
10-and-0 (vs.ISU in the last 10 years) That would be silly" - Hayden Fry when
asked if he would prefer to play Div.I-AA Northern Iowa instead of Iowa State.
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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:25:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.201243.8638@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> jwilson@homeboy.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>
>As I stated in a previous post, the AU/UA game is the biggest game of
>the year for both teams.  As bad as most Bama fans hate to admit it,
>THE reason Bill Curry was run out of town was because he couldn`t beat
>Auburn.  In a year with only 2 losses (AU and Miami), many fans were 
                                                       ^^^^
    There, at least, is a nuggett of truth.  Many fans were more
than a little upset with Curry as evidenced by someone lobbing a
brick through his window.  However, Curry went to Kentucky to
interview for the coaching job on what should have been a quiet 2 or
3 day trip.  Instead, he turned it into a media circus for a week. 
All this *after* the AD and University President gave him the vote
of confidence and asked him to stay.  Now, if you go to another
company and interview for a job and decide to take it when it is
offered, did Boeing "run you off"?

>Jackie Wilson
>Boeing Computer Support Services

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
"Software, as long as it works, doesn't fail."
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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: CU's Kordell Stewart out vs. OU (Detmer to Start)
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:43:17 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Oct13.163339@squid.inmet> johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.161350.2468@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>>In article <Oct12.210942.7023@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> guest@ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Guest) writes:
>>>What does anyone think about Koy starting against Oklahoma. I was impressed
>>>with what I saw in the 2 games that Koy played in (Minnesota and Iowa). If he
>>>(Detmer) can have a good game against Oklahoma, watch out. I would think that
>
>>Once again the Sooners must play CU after losing to Texas; my guess is
>>that they're actually less demoralized this year after getting their
>>butts kicked than after the 3 previous close ones that they gave away.
>>Still, they're awfully beat up on the defensive side, and the game is at
>>Folsom Field.  I think OU's got some great athletes to step in for their
>>hurt defenders, but that the CU scheme will start clicking in the second
>>quarter and the Sooners won't be able to stay any closer than 2 TDs.

OU could pull it off, IF some bodies heal (esp. Reggie Barnes), and if
freshmen and sophomores don't look like freshmen and sophomores (as they
did against the cows).
>
>aside from these advantages - cu coming off of mu versus ou coming off of tu
>(minor edge), home field (major edge), talent (minor edge, maybe) and
>coaching (again, minor edge, maybe), cu will have the additional advantage
>of having 8 days rest versus the sooners 6.  all of this adds up.
>
>>The Gary Gibbs Big 8 Farewell Tour has begun ... next!

Well, maybe not.  If OU rebounds and upsets CU, he'll probably be around for
one more shot.  If OU loses to CU and KU, then NU, that may well do it.  Sort
of a shame, though:  I'd hate to be the guy that actually fires him.  We may
only need a new offensive coordinator.  It's hard for me to think of a replace-
ment other than St. Barry.
>
>too bad.  ou was starting to become a fixture as a win on the buffs' (not to
>mention the longhorns') schedules.

Maybe, but not quite the fixture CU was for so many years for OU.

>>-- 
>>Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com

    OOOO      
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From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: CFPOOL: Week #8 Entry
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:19:24 GMT

Game list for 10/24 (18 games):
$
	Arizona at California
	Arizona State at UCLA
	Bowling Green at Akron
	Clemson at N. Carolina State
	Wyoming at Colorado State
	Maryland at Duke
	East Carolina at Pittsburgh
	Georgia Tech at North Carolina
	Houston at Texas
	Wisconsin at Indiana
	Iowa State at Oklahoma State
	Oklahoma at Kansas
	Memphis State at Tulsa
	Ohio State at Michigan State
	Penn State at West Virginia
	Rice at Texas Christian
	South Carolina at Vanderbilt
	Southern Cal at Washington State

Reminders:	Don't forget to order your predictions by 'confidence.'
		A recap sheet is sent to those entered by Wednesday (10/21).
--
Chris Stassen			408-943-0630			stassen@alc.com
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:37:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Naturally, this is just MHO, but some of the biggest rivalries would be:
(in no particular order)
1) Cal-Stanford--->the game for The Axe has been exciting for me, and I'm not
   even a Pac10 fan.  In fact, I'm not a fan of football anywhere west of Texas
   except for Hawaii (they ROCKED Detmer ral bad!).  :) (Have to kid the Pac10)
2) Alabama-Auburn-->This one is so big that when Curry went 10-0 (only to finish
   10-2) he got bricks thrown at his windows because he lost to Auburn!  The 
   other ten wins just matter.  The bowl loss to Miami just exacerabeted things.
3) Michigan-Minnesota-->The Little Brown Jug has been one of those recently one-
   sided affairs, but I'd wager that the Gophers can pull the big upset once
   in a while (speaking for only the past ten yrs or so), in fact they might do
   it this year, if Michigan looks ahead to the OSU game.
4) Michigan-ND-->Lots of NC implications, not just now, but (more importantly)
   in the past as well.  Its not just the past ten years that ND-Michigan has
   involved potential NC's but for decades!
5) Georgia-Georgia Tech--->Okay, okay, I admit it, I am biased.  But this is an
   old rivalry.  The first game being played in 1893.  Even though UGA ran all
   over Tech during the Hershel Walker years, Tech's recent resurgence has made
   this a competitive rivalry again with the home teams losing the past two
   years.  Also, this game has had NC implications with it.  Going back, there
   have been quite a few times when one of the two teams has been ranked in a 
   position to affect the NC (including winning it) and then one of the teams
   got rocked.  Both teams have had possible NC's pulled out from under them
   by the other.  Both teams have come in as the undefeated favorite and won
   convincingly.  Not many other rivalries have had both teams come into the
   game with a single loss between them, just before the bowl games, only to
   have one teams hopes for a top ten finish dashed.  Before you flame me about
   2 teams having only 1 loss between them when they play, remember, Tech-UGA
   is the LAST GAME OF THE SEASON, excluding bowl games.  When two teams play
   each other with records of 3-0 vs 3-0-1, it doesn't count!  There have been
   times when after a whole season, they still only have a loss between them.
   Some people think that 1985(?) was the first time 2 teams from the same state
   finished the season ranked in the top 5 (FSU, Miami).  Wrong!  It was Tech
   and Georgia, many decades earlier.  They both finished in the top five d
   despite the fact that they played each other at the END of the regular season.
Well, I'm done, go and flame to your heart's content.   :)
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 4-Oct
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:35:04 GMT

In article <1av0m3INNe3j@gap.caltech.edu>
   schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:
 
>I welcome comments and suggestions.
 
 
Ok, I've got a comment.
 
 
>5    Stanford                  86.745   4-1-0  77.989  ( 18,  79.905)  +13
 
>19   Texas_A&M                 80.726   5-0-0  74.433  ( 17,  80.645)  -2
 
 
Did you forget that A&M *beat* Stanford?  For that matter, how can
ND still be ranked higher than Stanford?  You've got a serious
problem with your program.....
 
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From: hiegel@cac.washington.edu (Brian Hiegel )
Subject: Re: Bowl Question
Organization: UW Computing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:43:43 GMT

If Washington wins the Pac 10 conference, then they must play in the Rose Bowl.
But even if they had their choice, doesn't every team want to play for the Roses?

-Brian
From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct6.160218.25529@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes...
#First of all, let me say that Bowden's image as the so-called "river boat
#gambler" is really only based on one play: the 'rooskie.

My impression of Bowden as a gambler was formed long before that play.  I
recall a kickoff return for a touchdown in the 1986(?) Miami-FSU game in
the OB that was set up by a backwards pass across the field.  The ball hit
the ground and evidently was intended to do just that to throw the 
defenders off their guard.  He also tried several fake punts and fake field 
goals in the many games I've seen FSU play.  That one play was hardly the
only gamble Bowden has taken in his days of coaching.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: curtis@WJ.COM (Curtis Otaguro)
Subject: Re: The Warriors of Hawaii
Organization: Watkins-Johnson Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:02:26 GMT

In <1992Oct6.174814.15536@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> jpd@austin.ibm.com writes:

>Hawaii gets little respect in my book until they start scheduling games at a
>decent hour AND start splitting home/away games.  The "Big" wins over BYU
>and the "dangerously" close upset of Notre Dame are jokes, since all three
>of those games were played WAY late at night.  The BYU games were played from
>11:00 to 2:30 am Utah time and the Notre Dame games were even later than that
>to the Notre Dame team.  So, gimme a break.  Any team with an advantage like
>that could give a good game to any top team.

Two of UH's three wins (Oregon and Air Force) were on the road. In fact this year
Hawaii has 5 of its 12 games on the road.  I wouldn't say past big wins against
BYU or the close upset of Notre Dame were jokes.  If you ever watched a Hawaii
team, you would see how tough their defense can be.  They play with heart and
emotion.  In the two BYU wins, Hawaii's offensive and defense line dominated BYU.
They really manhandled Detmer.  UH had a strong team in the first win, but just
an average team in the second win.  These wins were certainly not tainted!  In
the Notre Dame game, Hawaii could have just folded when they were losing by
about three TDs in the fourth quarter, but they didn't.  They scored, kicked a
successful onside kick, scored again, and almost got another onside kick!  That
is the trademark of a UH Rainbow team - NEVER GIVE UP!!!  Having to play "late"
games in Hawaii isn't an excuse for the visiting team since they come to Hawaii
early to overcome the jet lag and get practice time in.  The games are scheduled
at night (7:30 PM HST) for a reason -- to minimize the heat and humidity which
mainland teams are often not accustomed to.

Hawaii often has to face teams that are stronger, faster, and well financed.  How
can you compete with the other schools for top athletes when all you can offer is
fewer scholarships and not much media coverage (when Hawaii plays its games, ev-
eryone is sleeping on the mainland, and even the Sunday paper the next day has no
score :-( ).  Even the best Hawaii football players go to mainland schools.  When
Hawaii is on the road, they face the same disadvantages (overcoming jet lag, dif-
ferent climate) plus sometimes adjusting to high altitude.

I'm not saying that with a 3-0 record that Hawaii is one of the top 25 teams, but
you should give them more credit.  They will go a long way this year if they can
improve their average offense.

-- 
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:42:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <VZ7-p3A@engin.umich.edu> chyang@andalusian.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>> Well, the same reasoning applies to Nebraska too.. how do you know they 
>> *didn't* improve by the end of the season?
>
>	That is the point!  
That's not the point!

>They may have improved, but then again they
>may not.  And to use that as a measureing factor is absolutely useless.
Why not? September is part of the season. The national championship
is for the entire season, not for November-January alone. If you are
not ready to play in September, tough!

Florida St. lost out the championship in 1989 because of two losses
right off the gate. Their 10-0 finish, including a blowout over Miami,
wasn't an adequate support of "to use that (early season performance)
as a measuring factor is absolutely useless".

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Virginia:  same old 'hoos
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:09:04 GMT

In article <ceqlPaq00WBMM3Wqsm@andrew.cmu.edu> Thomas Swann <ts3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Saturday's disaster was incomprehensible to me until I found this bulletin
>board today.  I now understand that it was all JonaX's fault.  Fortunately,
>I am studying so much that I didn't have time to even listen to the game on
>the radio (although not so much that I can't read b-boards, apparently).
>
>Now that we're not undefeated either, we can meet FSU on even terms.
>
>P.S. - Terry Kirby for Heisman
>
>Thomas H. Swann
>University of Virginia (commie 1988)
>now appearing at GSIA (Carnegie Mellon University - 1994)

P.P.S., get a clue!!  Besides the fact Kirby had no chance at the Heisman...
he is also ALL BUSTED UP!!!!  Awww..too bad!
From: kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Auburn vs. Florida game time?
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:28:22 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.


When is the scheduled kickoff time for the Auburn vs. Florida game, and 
is it going to be televised?  I will be at the game, but don't know the 
scheduled kickoff time.

What are some Gator/Tiger opinions on the game?

Thanks in advance!

WAR EAGLE

Ken
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From: dave@chem.psu.edu (Dave Hartsough)
Subject: Re: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:24:09 GMT

In article <31rt032JabdO00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct13.165322.18324@morrow.stanford.edu> COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.e

                      [lots of other stuff deleted]


|> The interesting thing about this is that I don't believe Paterno would have 
|> ever won a championship if there had been a playoff. He did not have the 
|> best team in the country in either of years they won it. In either year, 
|> Oklahoma or Nebraska would have overpowered him.    By they way, I just 
               ^^^^^^^^^
|> remembered that Clemson won the MNC in 1982 so I'm still trying to figure
|> out where that one guy got two in the 80's for JoePa? 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Ronnie
|> -------------------------------------------------------------
|> I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....
|> 
|> 


       Just thought I'd point out that Nebraska was an interesting choice
on your part.....beating Nebraska that season was one of the biggest games 
leading to PSU's first MNC in 1982.  BTW did Clemson win it for the 1981 season
and a 1982 bowl game, giving a 1982 MNC?  PSU's was for the 1982 season....

David Harstough
dave@bogosity.chem.psu.edu


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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:52:01 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Oct12.180546.10313@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:

> In article <1992Oct12.125456.2074@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> >In <1992Oct12.074802.26651@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:
[deletions]
> >  Sorry Charly, just because you *must* play the teams in your conference
> >does not excuse you from the "easy schedule" complaint.  A&M has had to put 
> >up with that all year 
> 
>  snip, snip
> 
> Uhh, but there's a slight difference here: The PAC 10 is arguably the
> top conference in the country. As for the SWC, NOT! Playing in the PAC
> 10 does *not* mean Washington has a week schedule as you imply. I'll
> grant you Oregon St as a patsy, but every conference has at least one
> weak team. As for Arizona St. and Oregon, they would most likely
> finish in the top half of the SWC. You would me hard pressed to find
> many teams in the SWC capable of doing so in the PAC 10.

  Hey, easy there!  YOU brought up the notion that Washinton MUST play these
patsies as a defense for it's semi-weak schedule.  I simply said being forced
to play patsies was not a good way to rationalize having a weak schedule.  If
its's weak, it's weak, whether they are conference teams or not.  I certainly
made no attempt to say A&M's schedule was stronger than Washington's or the
SWC is stronger than the PAC-10.  They are (IMO) not.  I simply pointed out that
they share the same problem (to a different degree) of weak conference slates.

  I even went out of my way to say that overall, the SWC sucks this year.
With certain glaring exceptions. :-)  You deleted that.

[flame bait deleted]


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: doug@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Clemson RUNS
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: doug@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Chemistry, UCLA

In article <1992Oct14.231849.17897@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>> So - why run if you don't have to??
>
>It's far less risky, no matter how you cut it.  And with a good offensive
>line and group of backs, you shouldn't lose yardage or fumble. 

Tell that to Notre Dame.

>>Ok - GO, GAMECOCKS!!! They sure need all the help they can get!!! 
>
>That's the sooth...

Go Cardinal!


-Doug Gibson
 doug@abby.chem.ucla.edu

Neither UCLA nor the National Science Foundation has a clue what I am doing.
They just pay me to do it.

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