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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:11:00 EDT
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      "Europe Through the Back Door"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Here is the information on book by Rick Steves for inexpensive travelling
through Europe:

Mailing address is:    Travels in Europe
                       PO Box 28369
                       Seattle, WA  98118-1369

For direct ordering, call 1-800-866-7425

For information call 206-329-7167

Some of the books he has written, other than "Europe Through the Back Door"
are:

Europe 101:  History and Art for the Travelor
Mona Winks:  Self-Guided  Tours of Europe's Top Museums

and a slew of itinerary books for tours of 22 days in various countries in
Europe.

The "Back Door" book is really helpful, and includes info on planning,
itineraries, eating and sleeping cheap, health, language barriers--well, I'm
just quoting from the table of contents and it goes on and on  The book cost me
$16.95 about a year ago, plus postage.  I think it's worth it.

Hilde
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:54:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Ellen Lorang <0005403596@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Ellen Lorang <0005403596@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Spoolers

I have been using SuperLaserSpool successfully for months with Pagemaker 4.2
and a NEC Silentwriter II Model 90. Try it, it works!
From: john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU (John)
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Subject: Re: Font list Disappearing
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:45:31 GMT
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I am using a pc. When I pull down the fonts option, I have so many
fonts that the list disappers off the bottom of the screen, and there
are no scroll bars to let me get to the bottom of the list. Anyone
else have this problem. HELP!

Yes. Use "Type Specs" to scroll through all your fonts. I have this same
problem. The Unity 1000 printer came with 135 fonts and it definitely makes the
list too long.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:13:07 EST
Reply-To:     "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
From:         "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Not enough fonts seen

Of course, no one has asked the obvious question that this entire discussion
brings to mind:  Why doesn't Aldus use a call to whatever Windows code is
used to make a <scrolling> list instead of the useless (when you have many
fonts) list that it provides?  Seems like someone at Aldus fumbled the ball
on this one.

Perhaps in the next upgrade?

:)

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From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Re: Spoolers
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:24:46 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I have tried to use Print spoolers with PageMaker since they were 
available, all with miserable rsults.  If I have a nig document to print 
out, I resign myself to grabbing a magazine or catching up on my phone 
messages while my LaserWriter chugs away.

TIM

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From: cpolishe@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Polisher)
Subject: Re: Request for comments on NEC Silentwriter 95
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:43:05 GMT

In article <9210110012.AA24592@epas.utoronto.ca> "(Felix Sung)" <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA> writes:
>I'm considering the purchase of the NEC Silentwriter 95 laser printer,
>and would appreciate comments, both positive and negative, from any
>list members who own or have used it, on your general impressions of
>the beast, as well as specific comments on the output quality and
>density, difficulty of maintenance, noise level, availability and
>cost of replacement toner cartridges, and whether used cartridges can
>be refilled. If you own one and could make the decision to buy it over
>again, would you stick with it? Why or why not?
>

Felix,

I own that model; recently upgraded to 2MB RAM. It produces a
tbloid newspaper every two weeks, I think I run about 1000 pages
per month on average through the printer.

Print quality is excellent compared to my experience with Apple
Laserwriter II, IINT, IINTX, ...

Speed: not peppy, but adequate.

Straight-through paper path allow me to print on index card stock
with no jamming. Really a GREAT paper path.

Setup was very easy. I paid under $1400.

Manuals are pretty good; using the control panel--menu system
is tricky but do-able.

I have no problems obtaining toner cartridges. One cart lasts me
4,000+ pages, but I have many pages that are substantially black.
I think NEC claims several thousand more pages per refill, and I
believe most people would achieve around 6,000 pages.

Maintainence is simple. Cart changes are *easy*.

Sound: You can barely hear it.

Manual feed of envelopes: THIS IS THE ONE PROBLEM AREA FOR THE NEC 95.
If you're going to feed a lot of envelopes, consider another printer.
NEC says they're working on a fix.

Altogether, I am quite pleased with this printer. I would make the
same purchase decision again.

Regards,
Chuck Polisher
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:12:53 -0400
Reply-To:     "(Felix Sung)" <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
From:         "(Felix Sung)" <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Request for comments on NEC Silentwriter 95

I'm considering the purchase of the NEC Silentwriter 95 laser printer,
and would appreciate comments, both positive and negative, from any
list members who own or have used it, on your general impressions of
the beast, as well as specific comments on the output quality and
density, difficulty of maintenance, noise level, availability and
cost of replacement toner cartridges, and whether used cartridges can
be refilled. If you own one and could make the decision to buy it over
again, would you stick with it? Why or why not?

Note: Although I would normally welcome recommendations of other
printers, please do not suggest other makes and/or models. I would
prefer, for instance, to purchase an HP Laserjet III with Appletalk,
Postscript, and a memory upgrade, but my budget will not allow me to
do so. Yes, I am aware that the HP IIIp postscript is available, and
that Texas Instruments, Xante, QMS, GCC, etc. all offer printers
similar to the Silentwriter 95; having assessed my needs and perused
the various manufacturers' brochures, however, I have settled on the
Silentwriter 95 as my first choice, and am seeking here information
that I cannot obtain from a salesperson or a brochure, i.e., user
comments. Thank you for your forbearance.

Please reply directly to the address listed below to help keep the
noise level on the list to a minimum. If there is sufficient interest
in the responses to this inquiry, I will post a summary in a couple of
weeks.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Felix.
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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Re: Spoolers
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:55:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


The last time I phoned Aldus Tech Support (2 months ago?), I was
told spoolers and PageMaker 4.x (Mac) do not mix well. They
suggested not using them.
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Subject: <None>
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:33:00 GMT
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From: csc3kdc@hofstra.bitnet
Subject: <None>


pagemaker word 5.0 filter does exist!

i have it.. or rather my place of work has it.
i thought it came with pagemaker, but maybe somebodyy
at the office 'found' it... surely, aldus would hav the answer

but the word 5 filder exists and works!
From: fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU (Fran Holtsberry)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: RE: Font list Disappearing
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: Fran Holtsberry <fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
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Jim,

In order to access the entire list, you must go to the Type/Type Specs menu. In
that menu, you can scroll the entire list.

Fran Holtsberry
Fran_holtsberry@macgate.csuchico.edu
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From: Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Importing Word v5.0 files into Pagemaker
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:59:47 GMT

In article <PAGEMAKR%92101408355386@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU> Rob Ryan <ROBR@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
> I'm having troubles importing Word v5.0 files into Pagemaker.  If I load
> the files into Word v4.0 and save, they work fine.  I heard somewhere
> of a "import filter" or something like that, which addressed this issue.
> Does anyone know something about this?  Where can I get this "filter"?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- Rob


I have a document entitled MS Word 4.0 - 5.0 import.flt

Version 2.1  Aldus Corporation.

It either came with PageMaker or I picked it up somewhere along the way.
-- 
| The floggings will continue until morale improves
| Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill, Wellington, New Zealand)
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:17:55 U
Reply-To:     Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Spoolers

 Spoolers
Waaaahh!! I sent this last week, I guess everyone has been on their hols!??

There was some discussion of spoolers for PM a while back. I'm afraid that I
paid them scant attention. (Oh! Shame!) We are a lazy load over here and like
the break!
 :-)
However, our news types want to spool so would someone PLIZZ help with info
Thanks

RH-B
From: JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL (Jim Charles)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Font list Disappearing
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
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I am using a pc. When I pull down the fonts option, I have so many
fonts that the list disappers off the bottom of the screen, and there
are no scroll bars to let me get to the bottom of the list. Anyone
else have this problem. HELP!


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:17:14 U
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              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Richard Howland-Bolton
              <richard_howland-bolton@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      THNK-Spoolers

 THNK-Spoolers
(Extending the idea of marking TANgents and ASYmptotes in Subject lines to
THaNKs)
Thanks to all who responded on Spoolers. We will test Super Laser Spool and, if
the results are interesting, we'll add our ha'porth to the common weal of
knowledge
RH-H
(Sorry for wording, I've got to stop reading all these literary lists)
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:52:00 PDT
Reply-To:     WAberbuc@UNEX.UCLA.EDU
From:         WAberbuc@UNEX.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Styles

Here's the problem:

I already have a book created in Quark using many style sheet tags.

I save the text as Word and give it back to the editor, who imports it into
Word, which includes the same styles from Quark.

However, in Word they forgot to include a feature that lets you magnify the
screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, with alot of 8pt type the pages start to look fuzzy.

The editor knows how to use Pagemaker, and does not have time to work with
Quark.

Does Pagemaker have a Word filter that also imports the style sheets from
Word.

Thanks

Bill Aberbuch
UCLA
waberbuch@unex.ucla.edu
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:12:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
From:         "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
Subject:      Mac Screen Capture

Rick Johnson asks:

>For a school project, my group needs to do a presentation & paper having
>to deal with Hypercard.  I would like to know how to capture a Mac
>Screen so that I can import it into PageMaker.

You don't mention what Mac or System you're using. In all Macs, the
keystroke command-shift-3 will save your screen to a disk file. If you're
using System 6 with a color Mac, you must switch to black/white screen mode
first; in System 7, you can capture the screen to any color depth. In
System 6, the captured screen appears bitmapped as a MacPaint document
named Screen 0, Screen 1, and so forth. In System 7, it's a PICT document
named Picture 1, Picture 2, etc.  (In System 7, you can even hear the sound
of a camera shutter when you press the keystroke. Nice touch! The System 7
version of TeachText will read the documents too.) PageMaker can place both
types without problem.


>We have tried to FTP ScreenDump2.SIT and UnStuffIt151.BIN, but when we
>transferred from our mainframe to the Mac, UnStuffIt wouldn't show up
>as an application, but a document.
>
>Does anyone know what we are doing wrong, or any other ways to get
>a screen dump.  For FTP, we did transfer the file as binary and
>downloaded it using kermit in binary mode.

Mac files have two parts, a data fork and a resource fork. When they're
stored in binary format on a mainframe for ftp, the two parts are usually
shoved together, with a header at the beginning telling where one part ends
and the other begins. This is called MacBinary format. I don't know what
programs you used or what kind of operating system is on your
mainframe--but the odds are pretty good that you wound up with a binary
file in MacBinary format that you have to translate to a usual Mac format.
There are many utilities to do that, such an Unfolder or Downline or even
something called MacBinary, as well as Apple File Exchange translators. I'm
not sure how you can get those utilities in usable form if you have NO
compatible utilities to work with them, though.  Don't you have access to
any Mac utilities whatever? The ".hqx" suffix indicates an ASCII file that
is easy to download, which you can then convert to a real Mac file through
Stuffit Lite, Compact Pro, BinHex 4.0/5.0, De-Hqx, and many more; you don't
have to worry about binary transfers with .hqx files, but you do need some
conversion utility to work with these things.  Sumex-aim.stanford.edu
(36.44.0.6) has loads of utilities for the downloading in .hqx format,
including all those mentioned here, available in the info-mac/util
directory...

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>
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From: reinstat@carson.u.washington.edu (Robert Reinstatler)
Subject: Re: PM for OS/2?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:45:35 GMT

In article <01GPMV8ABG5U9D4OUK@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> "Roger Myers 'MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU'" <MYERS@AB.WVNET.EDU> writes:
>I was wondering if any of you PM users out there have read any more about
>the PageMaker version for OS/2?  Is it keeping up with the Windows version?

I read an article in PC WEEK (unfortunately I can't cite the exact issue, but
I think is was around the time OS/2 V2 started shipping) that indicated that
Aldus is NOT working to support PageMaker for OS/2.  Best would be to call
Aldus directly.

Bob Reinstatler   reinstat@u.washington.edu

 

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:24:11 +1000
Reply-To:     "(Justin Ridge)" <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
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From:         "(Justin Ridge)" <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Mac Screen Capture

>>For a school project, my group needs to do a presentation & paper having
>>to deal with Hypercard.  I would like to know how to capture a Mac
>>Screen so that I can import it into PageMaker.
>
>You don't mention what Mac or System you're using. In all Macs, the
>keystroke command-shift-3 will save your screen to a disk file. If you're
>using System 6 with a color Mac, you must switch to black/white screen mode
>first; in System 7, you can capture the screen to any color depth.
[del]

This IS an easy way to get a screen dump, however as Jeff points out there
are differences between the methods in System 6 & System 7.
For any screen captures here, we use FlashIt... which works the same under
each System, has the option of capturing the whole screen, and can save the
picture to all sorts of documents (PICT, Canvas, Scrapbook or to
Clipboard).
So to put something into PageMaker, we might FlashIt it to the clipboard
and then simply paste it into PM.  FlashIt is available from the info-mac
archives (ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu).

Hope this is a useful hint!
JR

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:06:58 CDT
Reply-To:     Rick Johnson <96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
From:         Rick Johnson <96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
Subject:      Mac Screen Capture

Hello,

For a school project, my group needs to do a presentation & paper having
to deal with Hypercard.  I would like to know how to capture a Mac
Screen so that I can import it into PageMaker.

We have tried to FTP ScreenDump2.SIT and UnStuffIt151.BIN, but when we
transferred from our mainframe to the Mac, UnStuffIt wouldn't show up
as an application, but a document.

Does anyone know what we are doing wrong, or any other ways to get
a screen dump.  For FTP, we did transfer the file as binary and
downloaded it using kermit in binary mode.

Any help, recommendations, suggestions, clues, etc. would be most
help.  Thanks very much in advance!!!

Rick Johnson
96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
From: Monique_Cloutier@SFU.CA
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Subject: Color Laser Printer
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: Monique_Cloutier@SFU.CA
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I'm considering the purchase of a color laser printer with a price range of
approximately between $5,000 and $8,000. Does anyone have any
recommendations and comments?
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:59:26 BRA
Reply-To:     Amaury da Gama Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
From:         Amaury da Gama Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Not enough fonts seen

Jim Charles complains on beeing unable to see all his fonts in the font
list. This is perfectly normal. At a common VGA resolution (640 x 348 if
I'm not wrong) it does not display more than 27 fonts. Of course if you
have a SVGA monitor and display adapter you'll be able by using the
apropriate windows drivers to have more than those 27 ones. 800 x 600
shows a lot more. I don't recommend using the 1280 x 780 SVGA resolution
as the  Windows screen fonts get rather small.

Anyway, the alternative to the font list menu in Page Maker 4.0 is to use
the "type specif." option from the type menu. By scrolling the fonts with
the up and down arrows you can have access to all your fonts no matter
how many you've got.

========================

AMAURY DA GAMA BENTES

U.F.R.J. - Rio / Brazil

========================
From: DDZ@psuvm.psu.edu (CAROLYN DUDAS)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Need help with crop marks
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:55:39 GMT
Organization: Penn State University
Supersedes: <92289.131819DDZ@psuvm.psu.edu>

I'm using PM4 on a PC and I can't get the crop marks to show up on the screen
or to my printed document.  Can someone explain what procedure I need to
follow?

(I looked at one of the documents called bizcards in the template directory
and then created, from scratch, my own document using the same settings and
layout.  However, I must have missed something since my document wouldn't
print out the marks.  I also checked the manual and it says that as long as
as the page size is smaller than the print area of the paper, then the
crop marks should print.  So then I changed the paper size from 8.5 x 11
to 8 x 10, but I still didn't get any crop marks.  I kept changing the paper
size until I reached the dimensions where the crop marks printed in each
of the four corners.  I had to go to a paper size of 7 x 9.5".  However,
I was also hoping that the crop marks would print along the column guide
and the ruler guides like they do for the business card template in PM4,
but they didn't.  I still can't figure out how to get these crop marks to
appear on the screen after going through the above process.  Any help would
be greatly appreciated.)

Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:00:03 -0700
From:         "Timothy M. Williams" <twillia@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: for your ears only

I don't think that this had anything to do with music, or did it.

I love music.  I don't much care for marxism.

I now get off my soap box
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