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From: pusateri@duke.cs.duke.edu (Thomas Pusateri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Ping for TCP/IP
Keywords: raw ethernet, ping, read, write
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:32:36 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Aug29.003521.16561@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>>If we are ever going to solve problems like this, we are going to need either
>>a way to recompile the kernel source and put printf statements in it
>>or some type of kernel debugger to set break points and print registers
>>and assembly code. 
>
>	There is a kernel debugger, I think still in the archives in
>OSU-CIS, and there are hooks to it in the 3.51m kernel, if I remember
>correctly.  I think that is was simply called kdb, which was also suggested
>as meaning "kernel de buggerer" in the wrong hands. :-)
>

Thanks for pointing this out, I overlooked it. Well, I got it yesterday and
tried it out. It has potential. However, the kernel panic'ed pretty
frequently while I was using it. I was just displaying memory with dm.
If I picked the wrong address or gave a bad command, it would panic.

Maybe it depends on the order of drivers, I have
lipc
wind
cmb
ether
db

Should I move the debugger somewhere else in the lddrv file?

Does anyone have source to this that could be pried away? I would like
to display memory in a block of some size instead of hitting return
every word. Also, it would be nice if it displayed the ascii equivilant
of the memory on the side.

Do the commands expect the address parameter in hex, decimal, doesn't matter?
It seemed like it wanted hex. Are leading zero's significant (octal)?

I saw where the loadable device drivers get loaded (/etc/lddrv/lddrv -s).
Now I need to compute the offset to set breakpoints in routines. If I do
a nm -x on a driver's .o file, is the address simply offset by the
place the kernel extension was loaded? I'm sure I could figure this out
but if someone else has already played with debugging loadable drivers,
I would appreciate any info.

Tom Pusateri
pusateri@cs.duke.edu
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: netfax (was: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control)
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:33:14 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Aug27.142719.15551@uts.cc.wayne.edu> rwilson@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson) writes:
>Which fax modems will faxpak work with?  Any of the (street price) $100 or so
>external units for Macs and PCs work?

Worldport.  Which was taken over by somebody else.
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From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: netfax (was: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:19:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.213609.7371@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
"In article <1992Aug25.145627.13400@oswego.Oswego.EDU> ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff) writes:
[]
">I have a Mac connected to my 3B1 through the serial port, and the 
">Supra v.32bis FaxModem also hooked up to a 3B1 port.  I was going to write
">a simple program that would open both ports for r/w so the Mac would
">"think" it was just talking directly to the modem.  Do you think that would
">let the Mac fax software work with the modem?  
[]
"	If you want to make it automatic, but not load down the 3b1 to this
"extent, or need the speed that would crash the 3b1, then you might set up a
"T-bar relay under program control to switch which machine gets the modem at
"a given time.  (The T-bar relay can switch 24 circuits at once in not too
"big a space.)  Since you have 25 pins on your RS-232 connector, you may be
"wondering which pins not to switch.  Of course, you don't need all the pins
"anyway, but I would absolutely *NOT* switch pin 1.  That is the safety
"ground, and should be tied together in all machines in the interests of
"preventing zaps to drivers when you switch.

you could also use a printer-sharer switch.  these automatically
grant access based on signals asserted (dcd? dtr?) when hosts try to
connect to the printer port.  if one host has the port open, other
hosts will fail or sleep on attempts to open the port.

-- 
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a_d_hay@att.com	"But that's a parrot!"		"I was TALKING to the parrot..."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Subject: Updates on ftp.cs.caltech.edu
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:20:00 GMT

I found an omission in collect2.c -- I had not properly copied the
condition for an undefined reference from shld.  This caused some
warnings under particular cicumstances which actually seem harmless.
	pub/3b1/collect.shar.Z

Kermit edit 183 has been released.  This is hoped to be the last
beta release before kermit 5A is officially released to the world at
large.
	pub/3b1/kermit-5A(183).Z

Ghostscript has received some minor updates.  Version 2.4.1 (the
file gs-bin.tar.Z) has been removed.  Version 2.5 can be found in
the directory
	pub/3b1/gs/
The console driver has been sent to Peter Deutsch at Aladdin, and
should be part of the next release of gs.  The gs binary now includes
the following drivers:
	att3b1 pbmraw pgmraw ppmraw gifmono gif8
	dfaxhigh dfaxlow deskjet djet500

Andy Fyfe					andy@cs.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Can't read floppy
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:33:43 GMT

In article <Btvqso.KCq@cs.psu.edu> plu@math.psu.edu (Todo Simpson) writes:
"							      I went
"to the shell and tried `mount /dev/rfp020 /floppie' (having created
"the directory floppie for that purpose), but it said `mount: Block
"device required'.

try 'mount /dev/fp020 /floppie'.  rfp is the raw (character) device.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: noel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Noel Cragg)
Subject: Cannibalizing an old 7300
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:40:41 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I've just inherited an old 7300.  Any recommendations on which parts I
should hold on to (aside of the floppy drive, HD, and the power
supply)?

Thanks.
--
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From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: mice
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:21:42 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Aug25.200004.9695@umbc3.umbc.edu> grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST)) writes:
>	Well I would like to take a survey of the surfaces on
>which those of you who use the mouse use it on. I have had terrible
>problems with tracking and the mouse was on a mousepad, desktop,
>anything else I could think of. Well i found one more thing. I am
>painting the hall and the closet shelf was in the computer room.
>I put the mouse on it and presto the thing tracked beautifully!
>It is a rather course and hard surface.
>	Thanks :-)

	Mine works fine on a rubberized mouse pad (as long as it is on a
flat, rigid, surface.  It doesn't have to be too level.  If the surface
curves, there are problems with contact of mouseball to surface.

	I used one for a while on a pebbled surface of a printer stand, but
it abraded away the glide pads and made offensive grating noises.

	If you are having trouble, try removing the ball, washing it, drying
it with a lint-free cloth (no Kleenex or equivalent), and re-installing.  If
you have some form of aero-duster, try that in the cavity while the bottom
is open.  The actual sensors are optical choppers driven by wheels that
contact the mouse ball.  The choppers are hiden within the mouse case, and
you can only see the wheels when the bottom is open.

	Also, you might be having some contact problems with the mouse
connector (though I doubt this).  Try un-plugging and re-plugging it a few
times to clean any oxide off the pins.

	Probably a glass or Plexiglas pad would work fairly well.  Beware of
lint build-up, since that gets carried in and reduces the friction between
the wheels and the ball.

	Good Luck
		DoN.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: pb@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (PB Schechter)
Subject: troff/PostScript on 3b1
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:27:33 GMT

I am interested in using troff on a 3b1 to generate output for a Post
Script laser printer.  Can anyone who is doing this tell me where they
got (1) troff; and (2) drivers for a PostScript printer?  I am pretty
sure that this is available as public domain software, but am not sure
where to get it.

Please e-mail; I'll gladly forward replies to anyone interested, or post
a summary if I get enough requests.

Thanks.

PB Schechter
pb@cs.du.edu
From: vlirner@prism.poly.edu (Vladimir Lirner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Ethernet card for UNIX PC (AT&T 3B1)
Keywords: ethernet,tcp/ip
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:37:02 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

Hello people in comp.sys.3b1

I am a new guy in this newsgroup. The reason that brought me here is following:
Recently I bought my 3B1 system which contains 40MB hard
drive, Tape Backup, DOS-73 coprocessor board, and also, I believe, it has
1.5MB RAM on motherboard. I have release 3.51 of foundation set and release 3.5
of development set allready installed.

Right now I am looking for an ethernet card that can work
with this system in order to run TCP/IP applications. Also I am looking for 
networking software and utilities including NFS utilities, telnet, ftp, etc.

Besides the networking stuff I would also like to buy a RS-232/RAM card.
I heard that there are different types of these cards available with 2 serial
ports on them and various size of memory installed. 

If anybody has some information for me on these topics please drop me a line.
My internet address is:
			    vlirner@prism.poly.edu

                            Thanks,
				       Vladimir
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From: emm@iczer-1.UUCP (Edward M. Markowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,alt.sources.wanted,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: time conversion
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:47:11 GMT
Organization: The Kurowulf Empire

Does anybody have the source to a function that converts
time in the form of yymmddhhmmss to the form returned by
the unix time function?

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From: andy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andy Poling)
Subject: Re: Ping for TCP/IP
Followup-To: comp.sys.3b1
Summary: no raw readability...
Keywords: raw ethernet, ping, read, write
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:31:20 GMT

In article <714157972@macbeth.cs.duke.edu> pusateri@duke.cs.duke.edu (Thomas Pusateri) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.050912.22653@crash> cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose) writes:
>>Does anyone have the source for a ping command for the 3b1
>>and Wollogong?  I'm trying to connect it to a flakey IBM PC
>
>I messed around for a while trying to get ping to work on the 3b1 (I think
>a lot of people have.) The ECHO REQUEST goes out, another box I have
>returns a valid ECHO RESPONSE and it gets eaten in the ethernet software.
>It is either being tossed in the icmp input routine or select is
>screwing up. I will try to spend some more time on it shortly. After all,
>we really should have a ping on this box. Many people have told me that
>there isn't much we can do though without the source.

I too spent some time on ping (a long time ago).  My recollection is the
same - I could never successfully read raw packets.  I don't think the
SOCK_RAW socket support is complete...

-Andy

Andy Poling                              Internet: andy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
UNIX Systems Programmer                  Bitnet: ANDY@JHUNIX
Homewood Academic Computing              Voice: (410)516-8096    
Johns Hopkins University                 UUCP: uunet!mimsy!aplcen!jhunix!andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: WD2010 source
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:33:43 GMT

On July  6, I ordered and received WD2010s and 68010s from the following:

	Comptek
	6714-1/2 Olympic Blvd.
	Los Angeles, CA 90048

Price was $3.00 each for either chip. Compared to the $50.00 I just read in
a posting, maybe that means that the chips are DEAD. I have no way of
testing them at the moment. Maybe someone with testing facilities (Thad, do
you have your ears on?) might get one or more (If they have any more) and
test the quality. OH - add $2.00 for shipping. I don't have the phone
number there.

Frank        

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From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: group directory source directory
Summary: Is there need for or is there support for directories?
Keywords: directories?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:01:20 GMT

I am concerned that some of the "guru"s are apparently leaving the group. I
think that the UNIX-PC still has life. In the interest of extending that
life, the following are a couple of queries/suggestions I've had for some
time, that might(?) add something to the group. Your responses are
solicited:

	Would there be any value in either of the following directories
	to me maintained and published like the FAQ (OR kept in the
	archives which I am not smart enough to access or know how
	they are maintained)??

		 DIRECTORY OF UNIX-PC USERS
			Strictly voluntary. Minimum inclusion
			would be name and electronic address.
			Physical (postal) address optional.
			Voice phone optional.

		DIRECTORY OF SOURCES
			Voluntary contributions with or without
			comment, indicating what hardware or
			software was obtained there, price,
			quality, date of acquisition.

			It seems chancy and redundant to have
			to poll the group for a source that
			was posted previously more than once.

			It would be tempting to include comments
			regarding honesty but I would think that
			anything more than mere facts would be 
			inappropriate if not outright risking
			legal response. 

Maintainance of such directories would required dedicated person(s). I
would volunteer but am suffering spousal wrath already. However, I will
accumulate responses to this suggestion(s) and post the results.

Frank        

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From: plu@math.psu.edu (Todo Simpson)
Subject: Thanks for all who responded
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:26:17 GMT

This is to thank all those (there were quite a few of you) who
answered my question about reading from a floppy.  You were right, I
should have been using /dev/fp021.... When I did this, I was able to
read the contents of the disk.  (I hadn't been clear on the
distinction between filesystems and cpio archives; evidently this one
had a filesystem on it, which was what I expected.)  One respondent
observed that the Office program uses /mnt to mount the floppy
filesystem, which should explain why it didn't work: I had deleted
/mnt because I didn't know what was the point of it and wanted to save
space.  Now I'm a UNIX system administrator, I ought to be more
careful....

Thanks again to all who responded, and to all who were thinking of
responding but didn't get around to it before...no need for more
responses.
--
Todd Andrew Simpson           ``That would bother me like two per cent
PSU Dept of Mathematics         of nothing at all.''  - Philip Marlowe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef)
Subject: Re: Can't read floppy
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 01:07:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom--posted from Andover, Mass.
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep1.103343.6512@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>In article <Btvqso.KCq@cs.psu.edu> plu@math.psu.edu (Todo Simpson) writes:
>"							      I went
>"to the shell and tried `mount /dev/rfp020 /floppie' (having created
>"the directory floppie for that purpose), but it said `mount: Block
>"device required'.
>
>try 'mount /dev/fp020 /floppie'.  rfp is the raw (character) device.

On my old trusty 3b1 with 3.51 software

mount /dev//fp021 /mnt
mounts a floppy disk.  

"mount" is in the /etc directory, and I can't recall whether the Unixpc
insists that you be superuser to do a mount---that was the standard for
old unix systems.  mount -r will mount a disk read-only (write
protected).

Don't forget to umount the disk before pulling it out---if you write,
the bytes won't get written until a sync happens, and umount cleans up
the world.
-- 
Hank van Cleef---The Union Institute---History of Science and Technology
Unix, X11, networked systems  vancleef@netcom.com, vancleef@tmn.com  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: tmcdonal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Terry McDonald)
Subject: Printer Blues
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:59:42 GMT

Greetings

I am having a terrible time attempting setup
and print documents.  I recently connected
a Diablo630 printer to my 7300.  

After I selected the printer type and tried
to print a document I get an error message:


/usr/bin/wpp_prtsh: Error Processing Printer Conf Info
/usr/bin/wpp_band        
It also says Diablo630 not found


so, I went back to the setup and selected 'Other' as 
the printer.

When trying to print on Other - it says that the 
printer is not connected or turned off...


The Printer - when I turn it on (unless I hit a pause or
break button) goes through what seems like an endless test
of numbers/letters (abcdef...) line after line.

Can anyone give me some advice?

Thanks in advance


Terry

tmcdonal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: For sale boards
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:52:16 GMT

          My  wife  says to clean up the mess or build a dog house,  so  the
          following is my excess UNIX-PC stuff. I think the prices are about
          where  they have been in recent other postings.  If  you  disagree
          with the price, make an offer.

          YOU PAY 20% DOWN, THEN BALANCE AND SHIPPING COST UPS COD. (Or,
             full price plus enough to cover shipping. I'll refund excess.
             Like Lenny Tropiano required, pay COD with cash, money order or
             other guaranteed form).

          QUANTITY  DESCRIPTION                                  PRICE EACH
          ________________________________________________________________

          2 NOW 1   UNIX-PC Reference Manuals 999-300-189IS.     $30.00
                    Contain diagrams etc. - Copies

          1         AT&T Tape back-up system #37412. Includes    $500.00
                    unit, program disks, manuals, 2 tapes.        OBO

          1         1/2 meg RAM board (64K chips)                $85.00
							   NOW   $50.00

          1         STARLAN Board, with program disks, manual,   $175.00
                    cable, original carton. Pristine condition.

          1         STARLAN Board only                           $85.00

          2 NOW 1   DOS-73 boards, programs, manuals, plug  -    $150.00
                    complete.

          1         DOS-73 board and program floppies only. No   $90.00
                    manuals or plug.                             SOLD

          2         NEW, Sony 3.5 inch, 760K floppy drives       $50.00
                    with "rails"/frame for mounting in 5.25       OBO
                    inch drive space. Model MP-F11W-52D. With
                    proper formatting program can do 800K.
	  
	  1	    EIA/Combo board with 1.5 meg RAM installed   $175.00
							   NOW   $150.00	 
		    (I have a 22-page Installation Guide that
		     shows permitted combinations of RAM boards
		     and Combo boards, pin-outs and jumpers. 
		     Not much info but it is what AT&T sent with
		     the boards in the dark ages. $2.00 for copy
		     and mail).	

Frank        

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