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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN Hockey
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:39:14 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
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Organization: The Bates Motel

larry@spuds.solbourne.COM (Larry Keryc) writes:
>Mark Shneyder (nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: Some changes in ESPN's 1992-93 coverage include 10-minute pre-games
>
>Anyone know the reasoning for the change and who requested it?

According to yesterday's Times, local broadcasters requested a fixed
face-off time of 7:40 so that they won't have to plan around surprises
like pregame ceremonies and stuff, and from looking at SCNY's listing
for tonight, move their own pregame into the gametime slot (they have
Army (college) football booster show for the entire 7:00 - 7:30 PM
block, no 15 minute pregame show but then again the Islanders are on
the road).  Before, face-offs varied from 7:35 to 7:42 ... I guess
that everyone wants a clean termination at 10:30 PM or 11:00 PM so as
not to fill out the remainder of the half hour nor interfere with the
local news (which, I have discovered, is a big thing down here).

gld
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From: paul@maunakea.Data-IO.COM (Paul Brownlow)
Subject: Re: WHL: League update 10/04/92
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:45:40 GMT

In article <31220011@hpspkla.spk.hp.com>, richardg@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Richard Grimmett) writes:
|> The Chiefs are currently 4 and 1, with two wins over Tri-Cities and wins 
|> over Victoria and Kamloops.  There one loss was to a very tough Portland 
|> team.  It is to early in the season to tell, for some of the drafted players
|> still haven't returned, but it appears that Tri-Cities is in for a long
|> season, Victoria will be improved but still not enough to contend, Kamloops
|> will be solid but not in the league's top teams, and Portland appears to
|> be in a position to be best in the West.

I'd have to agree with this assessment.  Victoria is much improved over the
last three seasons, but I would expect them to finish somewhere in the
middle to lower-middle of the pack.  Portland has an excellent team - they're
fast and can apply a lot of pressure.  Seattle looks stronger than they
ever have at this point in the season, but they are playing with 12 rookies
and only 11 returnees.  I expect Spokane and Portland to be battling for
the top two spots, with Seattle and Kamloops fighting for three and four.
Victoria and Tacoma should take the next two spots, and the Tri-City Americans
won't make the playoffs.

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Organization: English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:23:45 -0400 
From: "Paul M. Smith" <ps2g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Penalty q. (was:Pens-7 Islanders-3

Lori Iannamico describes a situation in period 2 of Pens vs Isles: 

<<Period 2 saw Beniot Hogue receive a 5 minute major and a game misconduct for
spearing.  I can't describe it because I didn't see it happen.  I was
committing
that most mortal of sins, talking instead of watching the game.  The Isles were
on a power play at the time, so the sides played 4-4.  The teams kept racing
up and down the ice, but play remained even.  The Isles power play expired,
and the Pens were working 5-4 when the Isles were able to clear the puck.
Everyone went flying down to the Pens end.  Barrasso saw this and came out of
the net to clear the puck.  He went to bank it off the glass.  He always uses
the glass and boards in that way.  The puck kept going and sailed into
the seats
and Barrasso was called for delay of game.  22 seconds later Jeff Norton was
wide open (Thanks to Lemieux) and fired the puck from the left faceoff circle
and beat Barrasso.(Thomas, Ferraro).  
 
The Pens evened things up a few seconds later when Larry Murphy got his own 
rebound back and shoveled it past Fitzpatrick(Jagr, Lemieux).  The Pens were
still working on the 5 minute major at the time.>>

Kevin Stevens was serving Barrasso's minor. The Isles scored during the
time of that penalty. Can anyone explain why the penalty continued and
Stevens stayed in the box?
From: hp@mdavcr.mda.ca (Hossein Parandeh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: If I were Neil Smith...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:01:09 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

In article <92290.103425WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu> WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>What if the Rangers offered, say, Doug Weight,
>Vanbiesbrouck, and James Patrick for Robatille, Kurri, and Steve Weeks.

Steve Weeks plays for Ottawa.
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From: drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu (Frank Drake)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Organization: University of Massachusetts Lowell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:27:54 GMT

>In article <8OCT199210383237@isvax.lmsc.lockheed.com> fascetti@isvax.lmsc.lockheed.com (ISVAX  7740 FASCETTI      25627) writes:
>In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes...
>>I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?
>>...
>>I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
>>How does everyone else feel about this issue?
>> 
>>Lori
>I agree completely.  I think they should get rid of it,  but I 
>doubt that they will.  Is the Civic Arena the only place this 
>exists??
They added advertising for Shawmut Bank at our sacred Boston Garden last year.
Haven't seen the ice this year, though. Tonight...

Anyway, I find it pretty distracting. Maybe I'm just getting older...

If _I_ owned the garden, I wouldn't put any advertising on the ice for
few lousy hundred thousand... well, maybe I would.

I'd like to see the league step in and stop this. The boards were bad
enough. Now, right on the ice surface??? At least give them a couple
for unsportsman-like conduct!

Frank
--
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University of Massachusetts Lowell
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Lowell, Massachusetts 01854                        drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu
From: v081jqgf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (STEVE PULVER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Where is David Littman?  (was: Re: Where is Darcy Wakaluk?)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:45:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct13.173607.19953@pixel.kodak.com>, kiley@eksignal.kodak.com (Paul Kiley) writes...
>In article <1992Oct12.161321.23711@hemlock.cray.com> rye@hemlock09.cray.com (James K. Rye) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>Darcy is with the Minnesota North Stars. He was with them all last
>>year and starting this year. He never had a try out with any other team
>>that I know of. He started the Stars first game this year against the Blues
>>and didn't look real good in taking the loss.
>>
>>
>>Jim Rye
> 
>   Oops!!!  I am so sorry.  I was thinking about ANOTHER goalie who played
>very well with the Rochester Americans & then floated away from the 
>Sabres organization. 
> 
>   David Littman had a try out w/ the Lightning.
> 
>   Does anyone know his whreabouts?
> 
>Apologies...
> 
>Paul
>------------------------
>kiley@eksignal.kodak.com

Dave is playing for Atlanta of i believe the IHL.  He shares time with another
prospect, I forget his name.  Manon Rheaume (sp?) is the third string goalie
there as well.

Steve
From: phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (ROBERT HILL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: FLYERS in Quebec...
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:47:20 GMT
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In article <1992Oct14.172159.27028@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com
(joseph.m.dakes) writes...
> 
>Eric Lindros was robbed of his first NHL hat trick.
> 
>Lindros knocked the puck out of the air onto the ice with his hand and
>was attempting to play the puck with his stick.  He was checked from
>behind into Ron Hextall.  Both Lindros and Hextall went into the net
>along with the puck.  Lindros did not direct the puck into the net, he
>attempted to play it.  So it should have been a goal.  The puck crossed
>the goal line before the net became dislodged.  So it should have been
>a goal.  Replay confirmed both.   But the referee disallowed the goal.
>Just as in the NFL, instant replay sucks?

    From your description, it sounds like the referee made the correct 
call. The last time a Flyer touched the puck it was an intentional 
directing of the puck by Lindros using his hand. The fact that he 
subsequently attempted to play the puck with his stick but missed is
irrelevant. The puck cannot be directed into the net by a player's 
glove. It may be that a penalty should have been called on the player
who hit Lindros from behind, but that does not make the goal legitimate.
    By the way, what does the replay have to do with this? The call 
was made by the referee, not the replay judge. Or did the replay judge
review the play and agree with the referee? If he did, he got the call
right too.

Bob
From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Eric Lindros
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:25:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <92288.102921AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca writes:
>In your article about Eric Lindros, you mentioned his attributes and compared
>them with another player.  It seems that you forgot <and the salary of a
>Gretzky>.  Or more accurately <the salary of mre than Gretzky>.
>I just hate the guy's guts.  Although I am a player myself, so yes I do
>"appreciate" (did it suddenly get cold in here?) his playing ability.
>In a press conference right after the Nords finally traded him, Lindros
>thought that he should get the "salary of a Messier".  NOT!  Messier is an
>alltime great with,like 10 years of kick-ass hockey experience.
>
>Check six.
>Paul
>"BWWAAHHH!" -Tee (as in <hey, yo!Tee,my man!)

	I really did not bother w/ Lindros until all the trade talk came up.
I figured that the Flyers would never have a chance, or would take it.
Anyway, if you compare his salary with the money he will bring in for
the Flyers, then it is appropriate pay.  
	I don't think any player of any sport is worth that much,
especially for team sports.  The players, nowadays, can make enough
money during their playing time so that if they manage their money
properly they will be set after retirement.  If it were possible for
me to play I would not care how much I was paid, as long as it was
enough to live on and save half.  Actually, just to play in pre season
would make me extremely happy!  

	Back to Lindros & the trade:  I would have kept Ricci and traded
Recchi only because Ricci was always a Flyer (I think they drafted him
at least).  One problem with pro sports today is that there is no
loyalty between players and management.  You no longer see good players
staying with the teams they became good with.

Oh well,

Kev
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From: horvath@skinner.cs.wisc.edu (Jeff Horvath)
Subject: SABRES UPDATE: numbers, Sweeney
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:47:47 GMT

Here's a list of the numbers.  Note the following changes:

19 Randy Wood (was 15); 6 Keith Carney (was 26).
 
Forwards--- 
 9 Viktor Gordijuk
10 Dale Hawerchuk
13 Yuri Khmylev
14 Dave Hannan
16 Pat LaFontaine
17 Colin Patterson
18 Wayne Presley
19 Randy Wood
20 Bob Sweeney
25 Dave Andreychuk
27 Brad May
28 Donald Audette
29 Bob Corkum
32 Rob Ray
34 Gord Donnelly
38 Jozef Cierny
89 Alexander Mogilny

Defensemen---
 3 Grant Ledyard
 4 Philippe Boucher
 5 Mike Ramsey
 6 Keith Carney
 7 Petr Svoboda
 8 Doug Bodger
23 David Cooper
24 Randy Moller
41 Ken Sutton
42 Richard Smehlik

Goaltenders---
30 Clint Malarchuk
31 Daren Puppa
35 Tom Draper
39 Dominik Hasek


Bob Sweeney was picked up off waivers from Boston on Friday.  He had 7 points 
in his first two games as a Sabre over the weekend (2 goals against Harford 
and a goal and 4 assists against Montreal).  Not bad... :-)


Hasek played the opening game against Quebec and looked decent if not 
spectacular (went down to fast).  Puppa played the next two games against
Hartford and Montreal and (apparently) looked pretty good giving up only
two goals against in each.
-- 
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Jeff Horvath					UW-Madison
horvath@cs.wisc.edu				Dept. of Computer Science

	"It's a great day for hockey." - Badger Bob
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From: tiok_jk@tac.fi (Juha Koivisto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Chris Kontos in Ilves (WAS Re: OJANEN/RUUTTU?)
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:53:09 +0200
Organization: City of Tampere

In article <1992Oct15.112547.1703@tac.fi>, tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.133801.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>, hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>> 
>> PS. I think that Chris Kontos played here for Ilves (Tampere) some years ago.
>>     His credit was something like 16 goals in 44 games (?). He wasn't
>>     any 'superstar', but I think that the management was quite satisfied
>>     with his performance.
>>
> 
> Yes, Kontos played in Ilves about 4-5 years ago. He did not play very well,
> but satisfactionally. At the same time there was another Canadian in Ilves,
> Dale Derkatch. Dale was short, but very good shooter. He played 2 or 3 years,
> but left then to Germany.

Here is some stats:
Chris Kontos played in Ilves 36 games and made 36+15=31 points and
the season was 85-86.

Dale Derkatch played in Ilves 129 games (1986-1989) and made 88+85=173
points in regular seasons and he also played 9 games and made 3+2=5
points in play-offs. He really was very good shooter and skater.

Can anyone from Germany tell how he is playing now ?

-- 
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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: You may not see the standings like this again
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:35:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.012448.25122@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>
>>>Why the program put SJ ahead of Van is a mystery, but it makes for a meaty
>>>post (it's not a mystery, it's alphabetical 8-).
>
>No, I said at the beginning of the post that the rules used were (1) pts,
>(2) games played (not a real rule, but at the end of the season this rule is
>moot), (3) wins, and then (4) goal differential. Therefore Ottawa is ahead
>of Boston by rule (4). San Jose is ahead of Vancouver purely because before
>sorting, the list is alphabetical. No rule swaps the two. GF/GA ratio is
>not a rule that would make sense since goal differential would give the same
>result. Sorry to make this a big deal, but I wanted to avoid someone saying
>Vancouver could be ahead of San Jose for some technical reason.
>
>>San-Jose  4-3 ->  16/12 ratio
>>Vancouver 5-4 ->  15/12 ratio
>
>Tom
>
>P.S. A program is "smart"? Maybe a programmer is smart...8-)

 As far as I know, if two teams are tied with the numbers of wins and have
the same goal difference, the team with the most goals scored is ranked ahead
of the other.  
In this case Vancouver is in first place.

I like it better though with the expansion teams in first place !

Joe.
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From: rich@quik.clearpoint.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: tears...Pirates choke again
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:48:14 GMT
Reply-To: rich@jasmine.clearpoint.com
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748

In article <1bjqmaINNlqb@bigboote.WPI.EDU> carrie@edwards.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers) writes:

   

   Geez you guys are greedy, isn't the Stanley Cup enough?  :)

   Carrie

That's two Stanley Cups!!!


Rich
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:34:29 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: beat the pro!

Anybody care to go 1 on 1 with tonight's predictions?  Here's mine.  See
if you can top the expert!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PITTSBURGH   4, Montreal    2
DETROIT      5, Quebec      1
ISLANDERS    5, Philadelphia 4THE NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE
LIGHTNING    3, Maple Leafs 276 super seasons!!!
BLACKHAWKS   6, Oilers      2
BLUES        7, North Stars 1                  ESPN - IN YOUR FACE
Sharks       3, Bruins      3  (Ken Wregget
Flames       5, Kings       5                              -get a real mask!)
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From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: flyers got lucky!
Keywords: LUCKY
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:17:29 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

v113jc9g@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Swanni) writes:

>            Flyers got lucky, wait till the Rangers get them!!!!

Oh, please.  The Flyers got great goaltending from Roussel and an inspired
third-period rally.

Remember Fedyk's apparent game-winning goal that was waved off?  If they
were really "lucky," they wouldn't have gotten a video-replay judge who
happened to be a former Penguins general manager (Jack Riley -- look it up).

That said, I've never seen so many people hyped up about trying to beat a
team that finished in last place, traded away 4 key players, with 10 new
guys in the lineup and all 3 starting LW's out with injuries.  Set your
sights higher, kiddies.

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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: LIGHTNING NEWS: Partial Roster with scoring stats
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:26:58 GMT

Here's a partial roster for the Lightning. I only got the players who played
in game 1 and didn't get the scratches. I should be able to get them during
the next game. The stats are not official.

Rnk  Pts  G   A PG SG EG PS Cty Tm  Ps  #  Player
---  --- -- --- -- -- -- -- --- --- -- --  ------
  3    4  4   0  3  0  0  0 ?   TB  LW 16  Chris Kontos
 10    3  0   3  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   D 29  Joe Reekie
 10    3  0   3  0  0  0  0 CAN TB  LW  7  Rob Zamuner
 37    2  0   2  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   C 18  Rob DiMaio
 88    1  1   0  1  0  0  0 CAN TB   D 25  Marc Bergevin
 88    1  1   0  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   C  8  Ken Hodge
 88    1  1   0  0  0  0  0 CIS TB  RW  9  Anatoli Semenov
 88    1  0   1  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   C 10  Adam Creigton
 88    1  0   1  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   D  3  Doug Crossman
 88    1  0   1  0  0  0  0 CAN TB  LW 17  Basil McRae
 88    1  0   1  0  0  0  0 ?   TB  RW 14  John Tucker
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 SWE TB  RW 34  Mikael Andersson
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   C 19  Brian Bradley
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 ?   TB  RW 27  Stan Drulia
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 TCH TB   D 44 *Roman Hamrlik
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 USA TB  LW 23  Mike Hartman
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 USA TB   G 35  Pat Jablonski
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   D  5  Rob Ramage
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 USA TB   D 32  Peter Taglianetti
222    0  0   0  0  0  0  0 CAN TB   G  1  Wendell Young
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Looking for TB/Tor highlights
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:45:10 GMT

If anyone saw the TB/Tor game, would you please tell me a little bit about
what happened in the game. It wasn't on local TV here and I only caught the
last 5 minutes on radio. I know the final score was Tor 5 TB 3 and that
Tor scored 3 3rd period goals, but that's it. E-mail will be fine. I'll be
able to post the usual newspaper article tomorrow. Thanks.

Tom
From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Lightning romp Hawks!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:40:42 GMT
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia


>Tonight, the Tampa bay Lightning won the first game ever played in the
>NHL 7-3 over the Blackhawks.  

Gee, and I thought all those other games the past 75 years were NHL games.

Warren
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From: hoggie@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael Hogg)
Subject: Scores and Stats
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:05:31 GMT

Hi! My name is Michael Hogg I was just wondering if any of you late owls have
and N.H.L. Scores and or Stats to pass along to me I would sincerly appreciate
greatly thanks in advance.


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From: caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol Jarosz)
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:12:28 GMT


In article <92281.230658RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

|> of everything......As far as the road uniforms go I don't like copying off
|> the Rangers - you'd think the Pens could keep their own identity.  But the
|> Rangers are a great team - I guess it's Baldwin's way of saying "Hey We're
|> a great team too."                                -Rob

I don't think the away jerseys were copied from the Rangers.  When I went to
the Penguin Carnival this past summer, they had a memorabilia booth and there
were old jerseys on display.  I recall seeing a jersey with Pittsburgh going
down the jersey diagonally and it was blue and white.  I can't remember what
year it was from.  Anyone?

Carol
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