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From: pyuen@qualcomm.com (Patrick Yuen)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: UH Rainbow Wahines Schedule
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:23:29 GMT

In article <curtis.716064614@watjo>, curtis@WJ.COM (Curtis Otaguro) writes:
> 
> Would someone please mail me the schedule of games for the UH Rainbow
> Wahines?  Thanks!
>                                                         ...Curtis
> -- 
> Curtis Otaguro              Phone: (408) 439-6119         ~~~ GO GIANTS!        
> Sr. Electrical Engineer     Email: curtis@wj.com           ~~~ BOWS NO KA OI!
> Watkins-Johnson Company     Pmail: 440 Kings Village Rd    
> Single Wafer Products              Scotts Valley, CA, 95066-4081       
> 
> 
Yeah, could you also post or email me the schedule as well?  I'm 
especially interested in any matches they will have in Southern Cal,
particularly in San Diego.

Patrick Yuen
pyuen@qualcomm.com

GO BOWS!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: facemire@Software.ORG (Jeffrey Facemire)
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Reply-To: facemire@Software.ORG
Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:12:18 GMT

In article 2451@tymix.Tymnet.COM, stonek@rollout.tymnet.com (Ken Stone) writes:
> 
>      I wanted to report back on my net construction.  A few weeks
> back I posted why should a net and poles cost 300 bucks.  I got some
> ideas from people who had made there own.
>      A quick summary.  Success!!  Excluding the net itself, which
> I used a 'Sportcraft' cheapest available net (probably came from a
> box set) the cost was 45 dollars!  The only tool we used was a
> cordless drill.  The 45 dollars includes all pieces, including
> the rope 'out of bounds' lines and drill bit.  Our poles are 2 inch
> pvc and 1 1/2 inch pvc, that adjust to 8 ft. or 7 ft 4 (sorry we did
> not go metric)....   We sawed 2 ten footers in half to do this, and
> the poles collapse to 5 feet.  The net play is good, set up time
> is about 10 minutes.  Definitely worth the effort!!
> 
> -								      -
> - ken stone                 stonek@antares.tymnet.com                 -
> - btna san jose, ca     but stonek.probably@the.racquetball.courts    -
> -     								      -

Last year, I too, had the same desire, and I too selected 2" PVC as a means to
construct an outdoor system for under $40 or so (excluding the net).  I also
had the desire to have this system collapsable, so I used PVC male/female screw
joints to piece the two sections together. However, there were two problems that
I discovered.

First, I never seemed to be able to get very good tension on the net.  We used to
crank the net tight and then lift the PVC poles up onto about a 2" block of wood
to create extra tension (which obviously put the outside net height at about 8'2").
But, even so, through play, the net just seemed to sag in the middle.  

However, the second problem was the more devastating.  I don't know if PVC ages
under the tensions applied to it by using it as a net support system.  We used the
PVC net system all last year (about once a week), so I'm sure that it was utilized
enough last year to wring out any immediate bugs.  However, after I set
the net up for the first time this year and made sure that it was nice and tight,
somebody spiked a ball into the net during warmups and BOTH of my PVC poles 
SNAPPED at the joints.  BUMMER!

So, a PVC system *might* be reasonable for a net system, but I'm going to have to
investigate aluminum or something.  Maybe it was just the screw joints that caused
the system to fail.  I'm confident that having a PVC system without some form of
telescoping would probably do the trick (if you could get around the tension 
problem).

Just thought that I'd give you my PVC experiences...

Jeff Facemire
facemire@software.org




Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Subject: Re: Illini Classic Results
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:55:20 GMT

Hey Todd, was that you waving the Illini flag like a madman Saturday nite?

Just wondering...

Felix

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From: jordan+@pitt.edu (Kenneth D Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Volleyball in Minneapolis?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:18:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jordan@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

Sorry to post to the whole country, but the newsposter here can't
restrict distribution to Minnesota...

I may be relocating to Minneapolis in January, and I was wondering
about the volleyball prospects there.  (I usually play on A and AA
tournament teams here in Pittsburgh.)

Can anyone fill me in on the volleyball scene in the Minneapolis /
St. Paul area?  Is there much good indoor volleyball in the winter?
USVBA?  Leagues?  Pickup?  How about outdoor (sand, grass) in the
summer?  On the lake?

Thanks for any info!

-- 
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   Nick Nystrom      University of Pittsburgh      nick@theory.chem.pitt.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: hendefd@woof.duc.auburn.edu (Frank Henderson)
Subject: Outdoor net
Reply-To: hendefd@tech.duc.auburn.edu
Organization: Division of University Computing
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:42:07 GMT

I need a "good" (last more than 1 year) outdoor net (around $100 or less!)
for a church beach volleyball court here.
Any recommendations would be appreciated.

thanks,
fdh
From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:36:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> > I just bought a new AVP Top-Flite 18 Volleyball and was wondering what
> > are good steps in taking care of it.  Specifically, how do you keep the
> > ball from 'egging'?  It already has a very slight egginess.  Thanks in
> > advance!
> 
> First spray the ball with leather/water protector, ...

Do not spray your ball with anything.

> Second, pump  the ball up until it is rock hard when not in use but
> especially after it gets wet, this helps it keep a spherical shape.

Good advice.  I don't worry about rock hard in between uses, but 
certainly after it gets wet!

> However the best solution is to take it back, get a refund and buy a Mikasa
> Pro Beach ball, these balls are definitely superior in retaining their shape,
> feel, and water resistance over time.

If you trade it for a Mikasa, it'll last forever because you'll never get
to play with it.  If anyone else playing has a Top-Flite, you'll use that
instead :-).  Honestly, if you go to a tournament, everyone will be
playing Top-Flites.  They are still the best ball by far!!  The reason
they egg is because people insist on playing with them way too flat.
Just keep the ball filled up pretty full and play with it like that.

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:48:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

vkv1@cec1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo) writes:
> If your Spalding starts egging, the best thing to solve that is to return
> it immediately.  The ball does NOT egg because people play with it too
> flat.  People pump it up to hard to minimize the egging effect.  I would

I don't pump mine up hard, but I also don't play with them all mushy.  I
have four Top-Flites, and none of them have egged.  Two are last years
and two are this years.  The only difference in play is the old ones
have the folded bladder seem.  But none of them are egg shaped.

> return it to them with a nasty little letter about still shipping egg
> shaped balls and get them to send you another, improved one.  They'll do
> it for you.  A friend of mine sent his back and got it replaced.

You are very correct!!  If you have any problems with a Top-Flite, just
send it back to Spalding.  They're great about replacing them. Call 800
directory assistance for their number.

> Why can't Spalding give us a good ball?  What a rip off.

I think Top-Flite's are great. So do many many other people.

> Note:  the Mikasa Pro Beach is the ball of the Four Man/Woman Pro Beach Tour.
> Don't be fooled by the AVP designation.  They pay the AVP a TON of money
> to put the letters on the ball, not necessarily because the AVP prefers
> them.

And you don't think Mikasa pays TONS of money for their ball to be used
in the Four Man/Woman Beach Tour??  :-)

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi)
Subject: Re: World League Anybody?
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:27:32 GMT

Yes, I'm interested in hearing your first hand observations.  Who played
on the team?  Did it change much from the olympic team?  Did the
Italian, Dutch, or Cuban teams change much since the olympics?  How do
you think Brazil would have played against the teams in the Final Four?
How did you guys play?  In your opinion, did the best teams win?  What's
happening to the National team in the near future?  Who is on it?  Any
other first hand knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tomoo
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:20:13 PST
Distribution: usa

In article <2AAF8BE9.11944@news.service.uci.edu>, harvey@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Harvey Chen) writes:
> I just bought a new AVP Top-Flite 18 Volleyball and was wondering what
> are good steps in taking care of it.  Specifically, how do you keep the
> ball from 'egging'?  It already has a very slight egginess.  Thanks in
> advance!
> 
> Harvey

Harvey,
       First spray the ball with leather/water protector, this will help keep
the white coating on the ball longer thoughit does make the blue lettering
smear. Second, pump  the ball up until it is rock hard when not in use but
especially after it gets wet, this helps it keep a spherical shape.
However the best solution is to take it back, get a refund and buy a Mikasa
Pro Beach ball, these balls are definitely superior in retaining their shape,
feel, and water resistance over time.
Hope this helps

alex
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: stonek@rollout.tymnet.com (Ken Stone)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:26:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: btna

In article <1992Sep8.195502.22728@news.iastate.edu> A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu (Kevin Kettner) writes:

                    |     |
< -----   5 feet ---------- > 2 inch pvc
                  < 2 feet  >
                  < ----------- 5 feet -----------> 1.5 inch pvc
                    |     |
                   `a'   `b'

>   OK Ken, you have gotten me interested.  Do you ever have
>problems with the poles slipping once the net is up or do you put in
>some type of stopper to keep the poles at the same hight?
>--
>............................................................
>:   `Be good and you will be lonesome` ==> Samual Clemens  :
>: Kevo, Iowa State Univ. (For a little while longer)       :
>:..........................................................:


      5/16 inch eye bolts, 3 inches long.  1 located 2 inches
inside each side of the 2 foot overlap.  1 at location `a'
and 1 at location `b' above.
      for the reverse co-ed height, take out the screws
push the 1.5 8 inches in creating an overlap of 2'8" appx.  and
of course pre-drilled holes ready to go.
      We have had no problems with poles slipping of changing height.
Perhaps our slight net sag in the middle is due to the a little warp
that the poles experience when we crank the guy ropes.  
      For a guide, I looked at the advertisements for the nets
in the back of the volleyball magazines.  


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: stonek@rollout.tymnet.com (Ken Stone)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Date: 6 Sep 92 07:37:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: btna


     I wanted to report back on my net construction.  A few weeks
back I posted why should a net and poles cost 300 bucks.  I got some
ideas from people who had made there own.
     A quick summary.  Success!!  Excluding the net itself, which
I used a 'Sportcraft' cheapest available net (probably came from a
box set) the cost was 45 dollars!  The only tool we used was a
cordless drill.  The 45 dollars includes all pieces, including
the rope 'out of bounds' lines and drill bit.  Our poles are 2 inch
pvc and 1 1/2 inch pvc, that adjust to 8 ft. or 7 ft 4 (sorry we did
not go metric)....   We sawed 2 ten footers in half to do this, and
the poles collapse to 5 feet.  The net play is good, set up time
is about 10 minutes.  Definitely worth the effort!!

-								      -
- ken stone                 stonek@antares.tymnet.com                 -
- btna san jose, ca     but stonek.probably@the.racquetball.courts    -
-     								      -
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: oski@d31mf0.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan)
Subject: What is the role of the U.S. National Team?
Originator: oski@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 17:22:24 GMT


Great to have Dan Hanan on the net!

Yo Dan,

The constant change of National Team personnel puzzles me.  What role is
the National Team to play in the future of U.S. indoor volleyball?  How
can a strong team be fielded when the lure of the Italian leagues and
the beach is so strong?  

					--- Ravi Narasimhan
					    oski@clockwise.att.com
 	
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Subject: Re: Crutches--yes or no?
Keywords: injury treatment
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:42:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.210429.18749@b11.b11.ingr.com> paul@the144.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Paul Hebert) writes:
>
>QUESTION 1:  After a sprained ankle, should I proceed without
>crutches (limping in discomfort but not pain), or should I borrow
>my friend's crutches for a few days.  I have heard conflicting
>recommendations.  Some say to stay off it; others say that after a day
>or two I should use the ankle (standing, walking, .... not playing,
>obviously).
>
>QUESTION 2:  Each day so far I have soaked my ankle in cold water.  For
>what period of days should I continue this?  Until the swelling is gone?
> Only the first couple of days?
>
>
>
>HISTORY:  A few days ago I sprained my ankle when I landed on someone's
>foot after I tried to block.  The injury is not a horror story (mild
>swelling and bruising) but the ankle is very tender.  I will definitely
>not play for a few weeks (2, 3, 4?)
>
>I have soaked in ice water, I have compressed, I have kept my foot
>elevated, and I have kept my weight off the leg as much as possible.
>

I have a very long history if sprain ankles. I am no Doctor, but from what i have
learned, the use of crutched depends on the severity of the ankle injury.
A mild sprain might not require crutches, but it wouldn't be bad to stay off it
for a while. How long is a while.....My guess 1 week. It seems to me that you
have been icing and keeping your ankle elevated. THIS IS MOST EXCELLENT.

My Answer to Question #1: Use crutches or a cane to keep as much weight off it
		          as possible. Do this for a week (once again no expert
			  just experience)

Answer to question #2   : I was told to ice my ankle twice a week until the sweeling
			  and the discoloration is gone. After this, i would ice
			  it once a day (usually after work, since the ankle
			  probably had quite a bit of work during the day)

Now that my ankles are ok, i keep on icing them after any kind of activity. It seems
to help and keep the ankle happy :)

Hope this helps,

Serge

P.S. As far as when you should go back....I would rest the ankle at least 3 weeks,
then get some REHAB for a couple of weeks and then go and play....Physical
Therapy does help...if your insurance covers it, DO IT!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Footwork for your approach...
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:38:33 GMT

   This "how many steps" and "what foot do I start with" thing is kinda
dumb. Someone pointed this out to me once. Suppose you are doing a two
man receive. You are front row player and you are passing about 20' from
the net. You get the set. How in the world are you going to make a three
or four step approach from that spot? The same goes for people that are
making a swing hit or an X or something like that.



                                         - Drummer -
From: rainero@kodak.com (Kathy Rainero)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: rainero@kodak.com
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.

In article <1992Sep8.131218.24314@software.org>, facemire@Software.ORG (Jeffrey Facemire) writes:    								      
>Last year, I too, had the same desire, and I too selected 2" PVC as a means to
>construct an outdoor system for under $40 or so (excluding the net).  I also
>had the desire to have this system collapsable, so I used PVC male/female screw
>joints to piece the two sections together.
	
	My husband and I had a hand in the construction of 3 PVC
	setups: ours, my father's, and a friend's.  Two of the
	three used _4"_ PVC, and the other was 3", I think.  The
	Cost (excluding net) was around $50.  None of them are 
	split into sections.

> However, there were two problems that I discovered.
>
>[deleted description of tensioning problems] 

	We have not had any problems tensioning, but we do readjust
	things during the course of a day.  We thread the top cable
	of the net through a pully, then connect it to a sturdy chain
	that hooks onto the pole again about 3 feet down.  To tension
	again, we just pull the chain down a link or two, and re-hook.

	My father's poles (the 3" PVC) tended to sag in the center if
	we tensioned for decent play off the net, so we slipped a 2x2
	down the center of the PVC, redrilled the holes for the hard-
	ware through the wood, and were back in business.  They are
	a bit heavy, but they only carry them from the garage to the
	back yard...

> [deleted discussion about snapping the poles. :-( ]
>
	Well, our setup and my father's setup have been in existence
	for about 3.5 years.  My dad tends to set up the system at
	the beginning of the summer and leave it up until fall (oh,
	that poor net...).  Up until this summer, we would set up
	our net 2-4 times a week, mostly on sand but also on grass.
	Dad's net gets beat-on by jungle players, but our's was 
	treated with moderate respect (either due to our better level
	of play, or the large size of my husband :-) ).  The worst
	signs of wear are on the support/tensioning ropes, but they
	seem fine.

	Note, however, that all setups have the poles intact.  If we
	ever decide to cut the poles, we will definitely add a section
	of 4x4 bolted through the joint for support.  It would be easier
	to carry than the full-length poles, but a whole lot heavier!

	Sorry this is so long, but I wanted to put in a good word for PVC!

Kathy Rainero
rainero@kodak.com
(oh, no, so much for lurking...)
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 13:28:28 CET
From: <CVIBERTI@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject:    Tournaments in Florida - mid November '92


Hi everybody from Europe.
Is there anyone who could provide me with info about AVP or lower level tourna-
ments scheduled (and where) around mid-end of November in Florida, possibly
around Miami or Orlando ?
Advanced thanks for any info on the subject.
Should you also know about an unpaired player who wishes to play with an
almost (!) AVP-level Italian player in those eventual tournaments, let me know
as soon as possible. I am ranking 4 in the Netherlands, where I currently live.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: margi@indigo.mti.sgi.com (Margie Levine)
Subject: Womens' vertical
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:15:24 GMT

Anyone know what kind of vertical a woman can expect to get as
compared to a guy?  I'm about 5'3" - what would be a good
vertical to target for?  

 - Margie

Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: dan@quebec (Dan Hanan x6326)
Subject: Re: World League Anybody?
Organization: SAIC
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:38:08 GMT

rwolken@dcc036.enet.dec.com () writes:
: 
: 
: Anybody else seen, or interested in the World League Final 
: from yesterday? 


Yes, I saw, and was interested in the Final.  Sorry it's a week later
but I am on the team, and I was over there in Italy.  

In case you haven't heard, read, seen....we lost to Italy in 3 the first
night, and then beat HOLLAND in 4 the second night --> got 3rd place.

Italy beat CUBA in the finals for 1st (their 3rd straight season) and the
$1 million prize. 

Want to know anything else...details, etc, let me know.

--------------------
dan@quebec.saic.com
-------------------- 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu (Kevin Kettner)
Subject: Re: grass net construction
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:55:02 GMT

>        Let me draw a quick picture.  We thought about a screw idea
>and male/female parts (rec.sport.volleyball.erotica?) and I just
>looked at another outdoor set and did this.  Now turn your head
>sideways.
>
>
>< -----   5 feet ---------- > 2 inch pvc
>                  < 2 feet  >
>                  < ----------- 5 feet -----------> 1.5 inch pvc
>
>        Net permanently attached to the 5 foot 2 inch pvc.  The
>other 5 footer slides inside the 2 inch pole.  (the is not exact
>but for the description it is okay.)  Push the 5 foot piece
>2 feet inside the other, making the unit now 8 feet.  This gives
>you a collapsable pole down to 5 feet.  With 2 feet of overlap,
>this makes the pole strong yet flexible.  couple of eye bolts
>and wing nuts and we are in business.
>        We do have a sag in the middle but it is minimal.
>

    OK Ken, you have gotten me interested.  Do you ever have
problems with the poles slipping once the net is up or do you put in
some type of stopper to keep the poles at the same hight?
--
............................................................
:   `Be good and you will be lonesome` ==> Samual Clemens  :
: Kevo, Iowa State Univ. (For a little while longer)       :
:..........................................................:
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: geddis@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Don Geddis)
Subject: Re: To Dan Hanan: jumping abilities
Reply-To: Geddis@CS.Stanford.Edu
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:48:52 GMT

g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>	I also happen to know the numbers for Karch Kiraly: height: 6'2or3",
>weight: 195, standing reach: 8'1", highest touch: 11'6", summary: best
>volleyball player in the world (semi-retired).

Uhh, I don't think "semi-retired" even remotely applies to Karch.  True,
he didn't play in the Olympics, but he spends the winters making a million
dollars in Italy (indoors, 6-person), and the summers cleaning up on the
Pro Beach tour.  (Karch and Kent Steffes broke a number of AVP records this
summer.)

He's still got a few good years left in him :-)...

	-- Don
-- 
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