From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: Observations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 07:11:18 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Distribution: usa

<1992Sep10.033903.12606@advtech.uswest.com> stevens@eatdust (John Stevens) :
><1992Sep2.210420.9617@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>><1992Aug31.150147.12678@advtech.uswest.com> stevens@eatdust (John Stevens) :
>>><1992Aug25.204749.4281@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
[fetus]
>>>Nope.  It is, however, partially my body.
>>
>>This argument has been used before.  My reply is this:  You contributed
>>1/2 of one cells worth of DNA.  At the eight week abortion point the fetus
>>consists of millions of cells.  For sake of argument let's say 3 million
>>cells.
>
>Fair enough.
>
>>You get 1/3000000 worth of the decision.
>
>And the woman only contributed 1/2 of one cells worth of DNA.  So her share
>in the decision is, Ummm . . . (click, click, click of mouse using X
>windows Hp calculator program . . .) 1/3000000 of the decision.

Please read any standard biology book.  Read the newspapers for crying
out loud.  This is as pathetic as Suzanne claiming that breast milk is free.

Get this:  The fetus gets it's nutrients from the *woman*.  Without those
nutrients the fetus doesn't grow to 3 million cells.  It does't grow at
all.  That's why babies born in starving third world countries weigh less
than 5 pounds at birth - because the mother didn't have enough food to
contribute to the growth of the fetus.  The man can eat all the food he
wants to and it won't contribute *one* cell to the growth of the fetus.
The only nutrients (if any) that the man contributes is whatever is in the
head of the sperm cell(s) that penetrate the egg.  That's it.  Everything
else comes from or through the mother.

>Wow!  Look at that!  You've mathematically proven that the contributions
>are equal!

Nope.  I bet you are easily taken in by stage magicians, aren't you?

>So the the other 2999999/3000000 worth of the decision is the babies, since
>he/she grew those cells, not mom or dad.

The woman contributed to *every* cell in the fetus's body.  The man
contributed to one.

>>See how insignificant your opinion is?
>
>Yup.  Just EXACTLY as insignificant as the womans.

Wrong.  (Pzzt!  A stage magician didn't _really_ pull the rabbit out of
thin air.)

>>>I disagree.  Obviously.  Getting it INTO her body was a joint decision.
>>>Getting it out, should also be a joint decision.
>>
>>You haven't shown compelling evidence that we should accept your premise.
>
>Nor, have you.

WHen you apply the math correctly you have complete support for my
evidence.

>And the next time you try a mathematical argument, you might try remembering
>that data and information are two different things.

Your point?


Gordon
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