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From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Subject: AMATEUR: 1st Save
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:53:15 GMT


Just a quick note since I had just a quick appearance last night.

SunDevils climb to 16-0 after 9-7 win over the Dukes, our 13-year
nemesis more commonly referred to as the "Pukes". We scored 3 in the
1st, so did they. They went up by one in the 3rd. We scored 6 in the
6th to go ahead 9-4, they got two back in the bottom of the 6th to
make it 9-6.  After starting the bottom of the 7th with an E5, a K,
and a BB, our starter was pulled.

Enter the Dawgger. Save situation (two on, tying run at plate).

I got two quick strikes and then let one get up in the zone which was
lined hard for a single.  Oh, well, not my run! :-) Then another E5
loaded the bases.  Maybe it's my attitude problem, but those E5's are
starting to get me down.  Like I've said before, I think they do it
just to tick me off.

Weak grounder back to me, we get the force at home but nothing more.  

Last batter gets two curveball strikes, then a fa(s)tball which is
weakly popped to first, ending the game and giving me the first
SunDevil save of '92.

We have only two games left, and I may get the start on the last one
next Monday.  Then we have a bye for the first round of the playoffs.

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From: sauder@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (EY Sauder clyde jeffr (410) 290-6000)
Subject: Bo Jackson (was Re: How about 'em Braves)
Summary: steroids
Reply-To: sauder@aplcen (Jeff Sauder)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.221657.23014@news.nd.edu> jortiz@bach.helios.nd.edu (The Candyman) writes:
>
>How about:
>
>
>	Deion:
>
>	Bo KNEW baseball
>	Bo KNEW football
>	Ask Bo, he knows:
>	STICK TO BASEBALL.
>
>Kinda corny, and childish, perhaps stupid but I like it.
>
>			The Candyman
>	
>	

I have a good friend who has been undergoing treatment for lymphoma
(a type of cancer) over the past 5 or 6 years.  One of the best treatments
for this disease is steroids.  Unfortunately, a major side effect has
developed.  Her joints are beginning to weaken and disintegrate.  Another
medical friend told me that this type of joint degeneration comes from
only one thing -- excess intake of steroids over many years.  And
although this has not been widely reported in the media, this is the
exact same condition that has ended Bo Jackson's athletic career.

Are there any medical experts out there that can verify this?  Is this
what really happened to Bo?  Enquiring minds want to know.

Jeff Sauder    sauder@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
From: efindler@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edward Findler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Dynamic Duos
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:53:20 GMT
Reply-To: efindler@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edward Findler)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD



David,

I just thought of a better guess for most doubles.

How does Joe Medwick and Frankie Frisch sound?

I couldn't wait until I got home to check for myself, so I'm guessing
again.

--Ted Findler
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:36:30 EDT
From: <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Mon, Jul 27th, 1992
 <Bs3szC.3Ks@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>

In article <Bs3szC.3Ks@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
djohnson@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (David Johnson) says:
>
>In article <1992Jul27.221138.27950@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R
>Krueger) writes:
>>In article <1515nnINNirq@agate.berkeley.edu> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph
>Hernandez) writes:
>
>>>AMERICAN EAST
>>>Toronto Blue Jays     58    40    .592    --      4-6    Lost 3  31-18
>27-22
>>>Baltimore Orioles     54    44    .551   4.0     z5-5    Lost 2  28-22
>26-22
>>>Milwaukee Brewers     53    44    .546   4.5     z8-2     Won 3  28-21
>25-23
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>

>Up here we are not worried about Baltimore.  We think that they will play what

Great! We've got you right where we want you, overconfident again.

>they should play over the rest of the season.  About .500.  I remember Pat

Don't forget that the Oriole's poor play coincides with the loss of their
top offensive player this year, Chris Hoiles.  Ripken has also been in a cold
streak.  Davis is starting to play, Rhodes has replaced Mesa.  The O's don't
have the talent the Jays have, but I would stay worried about them if I were
you.  They didn't stick with the Jays for the last 2 months on luck.

>Gillick say about 2 weeks ago that he was more worried about the Brewers.  At
>that time they were about 8 back.  Now the media and the fans are starting to
>say the same thing.  Also if the Jays do what many expected at the beggining
>of the season (100 wins) no team in the east has a chance.  The Jays are much
>better than a .592 team.  I wish they could get a manager who can motivate the
>team and make good managerial decisions, not just keep his team happy.

.592 x 164 = 97 wins.  The Jays ain't much better than a .592 team, as your
own comment that they were expected to win 100 games (=.610, only) shows.




Dennis Shea
From: sam@terapin.com (Sam Lewit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: 1st Base Coach
Date: 20 Jul 92 22:15:46 PST
Organization: BBS

I have one quick and simple question....

What is it exactly that the 1st base coach does? About all I've seen them do is
pat the batter's butt, and wisper a few things in his ear. Hmmmm....

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Shoot Harry
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:09:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: RC/27 for 1Bs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:29:14 GMT

I have automated it a bit...  At least it saves my fingers a bit. :-)

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Fred McGriff, San Diego		10.56
John Kruk, Philadelphia		10.29
Will Clark, San Francisco	7.97
Mark Grace, Chicago		7.66
Hal Morris, Cincinnati		6.20
Jeff Bagwell, Houston		5.41
Eddie Murray, New York		5.32
Sid Bream, Atlanta		4.85
Orlando Merced, Pittsburgh	4.80
Eric Karros, Los Angeles	4.62
Brian Hunter, Atlanta		4.26
Archi Cianfrocco, Montreal	4.05
Tim Wallach, Montreal		3.60
Jeff King, Pittsburgh		2.32
Andres Galarraga, St. Louis	1.87

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Frank Thomas, Chicago		9.30
Mark McGwire, Oakland		8.68
Kent Hrbek, Minnesota		8.45
John Olerud, Toronto		6.70
Randy Milligan, Baltimore	6.17
Rafael Palmeiro, Texas		5.85
Cecil Fielder, Detroit		5.55
Paul Sorrento, Cleveland	5.47
Don Mattingly, New York		5.44
Wally Joyner, Kansas City	4.97
Tino Martinez, Seattle		4.50
Mo Vaughn, Boston		4.18
Pete O'Brien, Seattle		4.17
Franklin Stubbs, Milwaukee	3.86
Lee Stevens, California		3.01	(At least he's no Andres Galarraga)

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Committee to Elect Johnny Ray as Angels Second Baseman
Committee to Elect Mike Witt as Angels Ace
Committee to Elect Cookie Rojas as Angels Manager
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: jlesgold@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jacob Lesgold)
Subject: Re: More on Big Frank
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:46:01 GMT

In article <3575@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>As of about a week and a half ago, Frank Thomas was on a pace to finish the
>season with 309 times on base and 286 total bases.  

Is it unusual for a player to have more times on base than total bases,
or does this happen frequently? 

--
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re:  possible FAQ, etc. . . .
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 20:47:23 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico
Distribution: usa

In article <24JUL199218034467@zeus.tamu.edu> enw2049@zeus.tamu.edu (WALKE, ERIK N) writes:
>In RE the recent suggestion to post a FAQ:  I'm all for it.  Someone 
>who would undertake that mamoth task would be doing all who susbsribe 
>for stats, personnell info., etc. a big favor.  I, for example, had 
>subscribed with an eye toward getting ticket #'s, more current info on 
>pitching rotations, etc. as well as player development news.  If all 
>such info. could be posted in an organized way (ie, we all agree on some
>format, perhaps?!) then getting through the *heavy* traffic on this 
>group would be tons easier.  Go for it, some brave soul!!
>
>
>***************************************************************************
>  All opinions expressed by this user are well-reasoned and insightful. 
>  Needless to say, they are not those of his advisor or university.
>
>       ( thanks to Michael Feldman for the idea ;-)  )
>**************************************************************************

Already working on it.  Of course, if *someone* would like to contribute some
information, the FAQ would ge tout faster...(hint, hint)

I need:

	-people to volunteer to serve as "contacts" for each team
	-information on schedules (when '93 hits)
	-info on all the "pet" stats that show up pretty much here only
	  (I.E. DA, MLV, OPI, Game Neut Supp, the JACK-PAC :) (NO, maynard,
	   they won't be in the main FAQ; they get shunted off into a second
	   posting)
	-Short blurbs on all of the yearly books that come out, with info on
	 what each contains(i.e. GABSB,Elias,Baseball America, STATS)
	-A short (25-50 lines would be nice) explanation of any of the below:
	    *ballpark adjustments
	    *the pro-statistics POV
	    *the "attitude" POV (these two will be placed together for contrast)
	    *minor league-major league adjustment
	    *waivers
	    *THE EXPANSION DRAFT!!!!!!
	    *free agency
	    *anything else

I was considering talking to the people who run wuarchive (home of the stats)
and seeing if they would let a separate baseball directory be set up.  If this
occurs, then over the winter, I *might* try to get assistance in making separate
FAQs for each club, with detailed information.  PLEASE help!  I will probably do
anything that doesn't get done for me, since I've got time on my hands after 
Friday (the wedding's off. :( ), but I'd like to have some time to meet someone
new (  :) ), so any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Again, reply to kbos@carina.unm.edu with R.S.BB FAQ in the title somewhere,
along with your information, to get IMMEDIATELY on the "Special Thanks To" list.

-- 
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: RC/27 for CFs
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:32:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.190453.27517@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.171031.3741@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul15.043655.20632@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>>AMERICAN LEAGUE
>>>Kirby Puckett, Minnesota	7.84
>>
>>Not bad for a "consistently overrated player".
>
>It is definitely excellent.  However, he is overrated in the sense that if you
>are listening to the mediots, they would say that he's one of the best
>offensive players in baseball, which he isn't.  He is one of the best
>offensive *CFs*, for sure.

He not one of the best offensive players? He's got a higher SLG, more HR, 
about the same OBP, more 2bs, 3bs, and SBs than Bobby Bonilla, who we were told
*IS* one of the best offensive players in the game (at least in refutation of
Mr Galvanek's arguments), but BB is one of the best, and Puckett is NOT?

>>>Brian McRae, Kansas City	3.36 (can't be nepotism, can it?)
>>
>>Why don't you calculate Thurman's RC, and see for yourself?
>
>I did.  It is significantly lower.  (A little less than Cuyler, below)
>However, Thurman has only gotten 103 ABs this year, and McRae has had 3 times
>as much.  I don't consider 103 AB enough to really see that Thurman is worse
>than McRae.

I think Thurman "earned" those 108 PAs.

>Thurman is no offensive monster.  He is not even an average offensive CF.
>However, he did show an excellent OBP in '90 at the AAA level and was not
>shabby last year in the majors, his first full season.

"full season"? He played 80 games, and had ~200 PAs.
>
>However, he is 27, so he should be around peak already.  But he seems to be
>another case of never getting a real opportunity to show himself.

??? He had one good year in the high minors, he makes lots of errors for a part-
time player, he's got 2 HR in almost 600 major league ABS, and a career BA of
below .245 (and he's worse than that this year), he's 5 for 11 in SB, and
has a lower OBP than McRae. Looks like he really has shown what he's capable
of doing; it's just not very much.

>>>Milt Cuyler, Detroit		2.86
>>
>>Gladden's better than THIS (course, he's LF).
>
>As you said, Gladden is a LF.  Cuyler is an excellent CF defensively, while
>Gladden, despite appearance, is deteriorating as an LF.

And this year, Cuyler's not even running well. Very disappointing.

Mike
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From: gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson)
Subject: Re: All 6th-best team
Organization: ceNTRe for Number Theory Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:32:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.184135.38949@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
> 
> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
> 
> [Cutting to the chase]
> 
> >Let's cut to the chase.  Here's a possible team of 6th-bests:
> [...]
> >       SS      Howard Johnson          Mets
> [...]
> > Interesting, isn't it?
> 
> I think that's the word for it, yes. A gutsy placement.

I'm glad to see that people are getting some pleasure out of this thread. What 
I'd really like to know, though, is how well the All 6th-best Team would do. 
Could someone take the team David Tate posted (or any variant thereof) and 
work out the expected numbers of runs they'd score and allow, and their 
expected record? I'd do it myself, but plead lack of expertise. 

> Joseph Aloysius McVeigh  | "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee. For Hate's sake
>        "N.I.N.A."        |  I spit my last breath at thee..." - John Milton

Thanks. Gerry Myerson
From: NeXTwork.Rose-Hulma!rickert@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: More quiz questions (WAS: Re: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia)
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:28:00 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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In article <1992Jul21.220045.23358@midway.uchicago.edu>  
dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Doug Huffer) writes:
 
> 1. How can a batter drive in 3 runs without hitting a fair ball? 

Bases loded, batter hits a foul and one of the defensive players throws his  
glove at the ball - 3 bases ?
     
> 2. Trick question. Bases loaded. Batter hits ball over centerfield fence, 
> yet not a man scores.  How?

Batter stepped out of the batters box?
 
> 3. What are the three "appeal" plays?    
runner leaving early from first, second and 3rd base? :-)
gee, I don't think swinging/not swinging was aan appeal play back then.
 
> 4. Another trick question: Who played most years in the majors, Rogers 
> Hornsby or Babe Ruth? 

Of the top of my head, I'd guess Hornsby, 'cuz he played lots of little  
seasons at the end of his career - but Ruth had those seasons as a 
pitcher at the beginning.... well, you did say it was a trick question, so  
I'll guess that they both played 22 years. 
 
> 5. Which players had the same last name as the city of their birth? 

Estel Crabtree, Slim Love? , several others whose names escape me.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: eanderso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Eric W. Anderson "ERK")
Subject: Re: Home Run Derby TV show
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:49:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.222914.10919@panix.com> wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin) writes:
>a while ago ESPN aired some old reruns of the circa
>1961 Home Run Derby TV show.
>
>Yesterday I had a little barroom discusion about where
>that show took place.  I said it was from the old Wrigley
>Field in Los Angeles.  Others said it was from old Forbes
>Field in Pittsburgh.
>
>If anyone knows for sure, please do let me know. 
>

It's the Old Wrigley Field in L.A.



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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: GMaddux to Test Free Agency Waters
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:34:08 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Jul21.172154.16553@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>(Jeff Comer) writes:
>
>*Didn't Maddux (and his agent) *accept* the offer after mulling it over 
>*for 2 days, only to hear that the Cubs weren't offering the 25/5 deal 
>*any more? Or was this the agent's story? If this is true, it tells me
>*the Cubs aren't serious about keeping him...
>
>
> The Cubs were very serious about keeping him. They offerred to make him
> the third highest player in the league and the highest paid pitcher.
> Apparently Greg felt he could do better someplace else. 

With all the discussion on the net and on WGN I've yet to see/hear anybody
suggest the obvious. Maybe Greg maddux doesn't want to play for the Cubs
anymore? Sure its a lot of money and when he rejected it he instantly
gets labelled greedy by some, but as I read it, all that happened was his
agent said he "wants to test the free agent market". Maybe he is tired
of pitching well for a team that is "waiting for next year" and wants to
pick his own team to sign with. Maybe he thinks the Cubs front office 
is responsible for the teams failures and wants to start anew.,

Maybe he wants to pitch in a pitchers park like say.. Busch Stadium
or the Oakland Coliseum?


Russ Smith
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From: pfferrei@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Paulo Ferreira)
Subject: Re: Jays: Gillick says there will be a trade
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:26:08 GMT

In article <Bs9BqC.9rB@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cwhui@cayley.waterloo.edu (Chen W. Hui) writes:
>In article <Bs89AL.G1B@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, cjlee@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Ironman) writes:
>> [...]
>
>A trade was made on Thursday between the Jays and California.
>The Jays gave away Ducey and Myers for Mark Eichorn, the submarine pitcher
>who has previously played for Toronto.
>
>Personally, I think this is a great deal.  The Jays need bullpen help - I 
>was at Wednesday's game where Timlin pitched himself and the team out of a
>close game.  Both Myers and Ducey were basically bench warmers and are better
>off getting a chance to play more regularly.  Besides, Toronto has a couple of
>good, young catchers in Randy Knorr and Ed Sprague, both of whom were called up,
>to backup Borders.
>
>I think there may be another deal today but I hope Gillick doesn't give away
>the bank to get Abbot or another starter.
>
>Chen.

I agree.. Good deal..  From what I've seen of Eichhorn this year he seems to
be pitching pretty well (any Angels fans wish to comment???) and we all know
what he's done for the Jays in the past.

Ducey would never play for the Jays.  He was in the situation of being an OK
outfielder surrounded by great young outfielders in the Jays system and in the
majors...

Myers would also never play now that Borders is playing well and Sprague is
being converted to catcher.

All in all.  Great trade.  I just hope they don't panick and make any more
trades that could hurt them in the long run.

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From: g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com (Glenn R. Waugaman)
Subject: Re: Buffalo (Includes Red Sox rumor!)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:39:44 GMT


In article <BrstMy.BxA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks) writes...
> 
>Additional rumor that came out of a nice article on Rob Maurer in yester-
>day's _Daily Oklahoman_:  Rob says that he's constantly hearing rumors
>that he's going to be traded to various places.  The current rumor he's
>heard is that the Red Sox are trying to acquire him.  Anyone from the Red
>Sox contingent (Val???) hear anything about this from your end?  Maurer
>would probably do extremely well in Fenway--left-handed line drive hitter
>with some power who walks a lot.  (Actually, he might do well a number 
>of places--Worrell for Maurer?  I like it.)

At least a month ago a Dallas newspaper report claimed that Texas was 
interested in Joe Hesketh, and were offering both Maurer *and* Monty
Farris, but the Red Sox wanted a "more established" hitter, of the type 
that is not currently getting the job done, apparently.  It's a deal I 
would have made in a minute, but now Hesketh is struggling to make five 
innings a start.

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From: chee1l5@jetson.uh.edu (Sam Lane)
Subject: Braves-Royals Trade
Organization: Univ. of Houston, Dept. of Chem. Eng.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:16:38 GMT

The Braves sent Juan "Senor Choke" Berenguer to the Royals for
Mark "down the loss" Grant.  Both bullpens should be greatly enhanced by 
this blockbuster move.

Sam
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