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From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Cheap Insurance Rates??
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:31:11 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: watts.sqa.stratus.com

In article <PA_HCL.92Nov14062638@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>, pa_hcl@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Henry Leong) writes:
> Insurance prices are fixed by the state, all insurance companies in Mass
> will have the same rate and none of those rates will be cheap.


That's true and not true.  I had Travelers for an insurance
company a while back with a seperate insurance agent.  I called
several times because the coverage on my car was equal to
that of my friends cars, yet I was getting charged $300-400
more than them and my car was 3-5 years older!  It turned 
out (after I did some checking with other insurance companies)
that I was getting screwed by the agent (and by Travelers
since my bills were coming straight from them!). My rates
were higher because the agent had fees which got tacked 
on to my rates.  I would pay Travelers direct and they 
would obviously send money back to the agent.  Everytime
I called the agent on this, the response would be "Oh, no
Sir.  You must be mistaken.  Insurance rates are regulated
in MA.  We can't charge more than the other guy."  It 
wasn't until I told them I was switching and why AND told
them what my new rates were, that they finally admitted
(sort of) that there was a difference in rates.

-- 
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Rick Savoia                     | "I'm just very selective
savoia@watts.sqa.stratus.com    | about the reality 
Rick_Savoia@vos.stratus.com     | I accept" - Calvin
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From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Moving and Trying to Keep Phone Number - Need Advice
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:21:09 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Distribution: ne
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

I'm trying to find out if I have any options for keeping my current phone
number if I move out of town.  My situation is:  I live in Central Square,
Cambridge.  I really want to find another apartment, and it has to be cheap,
which makes it harder to find something in Cambridge.  I have a freelance
business (I play piano), and there are hundreds of flyers and cards out there
with my Cambridge phone number on them.  I need to keep this number active in
some sense, for an indefinite period of time, maybe permanently.  New England
Telephone will only put a message on the number for a few months, then they
recirculate the number; to get a Cambridge number in anyplace other than
Cambridge is extremely expensive.

So the question is: does anyone know a way to keep a phone number without
maintaining a residence?  Thanks in advance for any help you are able to give.

    - Dave Borden
      borden@m5.harvard.edu
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Moving and Trying to Keep Phone Number - Need Advice
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Distribution: ne
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

In article <1992Nov19.172109.9888@m5.harvard.edu> borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:
>I'm trying to find out if I have any options for keeping my current phone
>number if I move out of town.  My situation is:  I live in Central Square,
>Cambridge.  I really want to find another apartment, and it has to be cheap,
>which makes it harder to find something in Cambridge.  I have a freelance
>business (I play piano), and there are hundreds of flyers and cards out there
>with my Cambridge phone number on them.  I need to keep this number active in
>some sense, for an indefinite period of time, maybe permanently.  New England
>Telephone will only put a message on the number for a few months, then they
>recirculate the number; to get a Cambridge number in anyplace other than
>Cambridge is extremely expensive.
>
>So the question is: does anyone know a way to keep a phone number without
>maintaining a residence?  Thanks in advance for any help you are able to give.

I've been able to answer my own question since I posted this.  In case anyone
is interested, here's the answer:  There's a service offered through New
England Telephone's business service office (737-7000), which is also
available to residential customers, called Remote Call Forwarding.  This
allows one to keep one's old phone number without the phone line, and have
the calls forwarded to a new phone number, any number you want.  You pay
$41.54 for installation, $16.97 per month for the service, and for the phone
line usage, whatever the call would normally cost, from your old number to
your new number.  For example, if you Cambridge to Somerville, as I might do,
and someone calls you at your old Cambridge number, you would pay the local
message units charge on their call.

Hope this is of use to someone out there.

   - Dave Borden
     borden@m5.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
From: fhapgood@world.std.com (Fred Hapgood)
Subject: STM talk
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:36:46 GMT

7:30, Tuesday, November 24th  
NE43-773 (545 Tech Sq.)

Title: Piezeoceramics and STM development
Speaker: Russell Petrucci
Affilation: Stabeley Sensors

The speaker will discuss the role of piezoceramics in the operation
and development of the STM, with some emphasis on points that might
prove useful by anyone considering building their own machine.


Newsgroups: ne.seminars,wpi,wpi.cs,wpi.ee
From: dfk@wildcat.dartmouth.edu (David Kotz)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Dartmouth Colloquium: Marina Chen, 11/23
Summary: Prototyping Fortran-90 Compilers for Networks of Computers
Keywords: Marina Chen, 11/23, Dartmouth, Fortran, networks, colloquium
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:18:20 GMT
Followup-To: dfk@cs.dartmouth.edu
Distribution: ne
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: dfk@wildcat.dartmouth.edu


                          Dartmouth College
           Thayer School of Engineering Seminar Announcement

                          Monday November 23
                                  4PM
                             118 Cummings Hall

TITLE:  Prototyping Fortran-90 Compilers for Networks of Computers

SPEAKER: Marina Chen
         Department of Computer Science
         Yale University

ABSTRACT

In this talk, Marina Chen will present a compiler generation
technology based on formal specification techniques necessary to
construct competitive, easily retargetable prototype compilers, and a
suite of novel compilation techniques including those for creating
highly optimized computational kernels and for supporting High
Performance Fortran standard.

Information: Marina Chen is a leading researcher in parallel
computation and advanced compiler technology.  For more information
about her visit, please contact George Cybenko 603-646-3843.

-- 
-----------------
Mathematics and Computer Science
Dartmouth College, 6188 Bradley Hall, Hanover NH 03755-3551
email: David.Kotz@Dartmouth.edu    or   dfk@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: dme@cs.bu.edu (David Evans)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Boston Combined Schedule
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:32:07 GMT

Notices for meetings and lectures within the next 14 days
Events recently publicized are excluded.
We have no other information about these events; some, however,
have a phone number or address for additional details or confirmation.

  Mon 23 Nov  4:00 pm  118 Cummings Hall, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Speaker: Marina Chen, Department of Computer Science, Yale University
"Prototyping Fortran-90 Compilers for Networks of Computers"
Host: Dartmouth College, Thayer School of Engineering
For Info: David Kotz <David.Kotz@Dartmouth.edu>

  Mon 23 Nov  4:00 pm
Room 101, Aiken Computation Laboratory, between Harvard Law School and Peabody
Museum, off Oxford Street, Cambridge. (Tea at 3.30 in Aiken Basement Lobby)
Speaker: Shalom Lappin, IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
"A Syntactically Based Algorithm for Anaphora Resolution"
Host: Harvard University CS Colloquium Series and Andrew Kehler
For Info: Prof. Victor Milenkovic, or <menke@das.harvard.edu>

  Tue 24 Nov  3:00 pm
UMass/Lowell, Wannalancit 116 (175 Cabot St., Lowell, MA)  Speaker: Andrew
Sears, Department of Computer Science, University of Maryland @ College Park
"Layout Appropriateness - Guiding interface design with simple task
descriptions"  Host: University of Massachusetts at Lowell, Computer Science
Department and Dr. Arthur Watterson  For Info: David V. Pitts
<pitts@cs.ulowell.edu> directions available. refreshments at 2.30

  Tue 24 Nov  4:00 pm  MIT Building 34, Room 101. Refreshments at 3.30
Speaker: David K. Gifford  "Computation and the Cell"
Host: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, EECS Colloquium
For Info: darling@brokaw.lcs.mit.edu (Jeanne Darling)

  Tue 24 Nov  7:30 pm
MIT Building NE43, Room 773, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge (On Main Street
near intersection of Albany Street, @ Polaroid Building)
Speaker: Russell Petrucci  "Piezeoceramics and STM development"
Host: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Nanotechnology Study Group
For Info: Fred Hapgood <fhapgood@world.std.com>

  Tue  1 Dec  4:15 pm  MIT Building NE43, Sixth Floor Playroom, 545 Technology
Square, Cambridge (On Main Street near intersection of Albany Street, @
Polaroid Building) Refreshments at 4.00.
Speaker: Michael O. Rabin, Harvard University and Hebrew University
"Highly Efficient Asynchronous Execution of Large-grained Parallel Programs"
Host: MIT Theory of Computation Seminar and Shafi Goldwasser  For Info: Joanne
Talbot <joanne@theory.lcs.mit.edu>, Note unusual day and room location.

  Thu  3 Dec  1:30 pm  201 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139. Heading out of
Kendall Sq. away from Boston and toward Harvard Sq.
Speaker: Christian Queinnec, INRIA  "Continuation Sensitive Compilation"
Host: Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories
For Info: Randy Osborne, <osborne@merl.com>, 617-621-7500

  Thu  3 Dec  3:30 pm  Building 34, Room 101, 50 Vassar Street, Cambridge
Speaker: Laszlow Lovasz, Princeton University
"Random Walks, Volume and Random Elements"
Host: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Distinguished Lecturer Series
From: rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker)
Subject: Re: Butt-Fucked in Massachussetts
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:37:18 GMT

Not evil. Unneccessary.

CtL


Newsgroups: ne.politics,talk.politics.misc
From: ljr@mitre.org (Luke J. Rheaume)
Subject: Re: Massachusetts wants to seize your bank account info.
Followup-To: ne.politics,ne.general,alt.privacy,misc.legal,alt.dads-rights,alt-child-support,alt.society.civil-liberty
Organization: The MITRE Corporation - Bedford, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.134845.13539@linus.mitre.org>,
ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) wrote:
> 
>      Sorry for the scattershot crosspost, but this seems relevant to
> all the groups listed.
> 
>      According to WBUR, one of the Boston NPR radio stations, the
> Massachusetts Department of Revenue is trying to get legislation
> passed which would require all Massachusetts banks to turn over to the
> Department (presumably on a regular basis) the following information
> for EVERY BANK ACCOUNT in the state:
> 
> Owner's name.
> Owner's address.
> Owner's social security number.
> Account number.
> Balance.
> 

They already get the Name, Address, SSN, and interest amount on their copy
of your 1099INT (if not directly, then through the federal IRS).  It
doesn't take much to calculate back what your balance might be (ball park
anyway) from that sort of information.

If your looking to hide money, a bank is a poor place to try to hide it,
and in general a poor investment - but it is safe.

Standard Disclaimer Applies
Luke J. Rheaume, Member of the Technical Staff
The MITRE Corporation, Strategic Surveillance Systems
202 Burlington Rd., MS M322
Bedford, MA 01730-1420
From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Ignorance - Was Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:12:01 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <NxC=Q#C@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.075605.8167@smds.com>, rh@smds.com (Richard Harter) writes:
>|> In article <gYC=9HB@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu writes:
>|> 
>|> >This is already happening.  Efficient farming depends on economies
>|> >of scale.  What is wrong with large farms?  I repeat, farming is
>|> >a business and as such should meet the same criteria as any other
>|> >business.  If it can't succeed without government aid, it shouldn't
>|> >be operating....
>|> 
>|> Would it shock you to be told that you know almost nothing about the
>|> economics of agriculture and that most of what you do know is wrong?
>|> 
>
>Perhaps you can enlighten us all.

There is not one single example of a major agricultural nation in which
the agricultural sector is not heavily subsidized and influenced by the
government. Certainly, in the USA, where farmers get loans from the feds,
get payments for certain crops or for resting land, send their children to
land grant schools, use pesticides and fertilizers developed at state and
federally funded university research labs in accordance with advice from 
Ag department technical assistance, rely on federally funded water programs
for irrigation, government sponsored pest eradication and customs guards,
and then sell products in an
international market using Federal subsidies and relying on the pressure of
the federal government to break into markets ..... --- it would be truly
insane to speak of a free market. Perhaps you have some other country in
mind. Or is it that you share the widespread theory that state aid to the
rich and politically influential is  too ideologically embarassing to 
be mentioned?  


>
>
>James W. Howe                  internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
>University of Michigan             uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu!jwh
>Ann Arbor, MI   48103-4943         


-- 


yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu
From: kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Call for Radical Tax Simplification
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:51:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.pubs.stratus.com

In article <jbone.721499722@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
> 
> For most Americans, the federal income tax process should be paperless and
> require no intervention.  I believe this strongly, and I think a lot of
> people would get behind this idea if they believed it possible.  I am a
> well-educated professional in a technical field, and I still find it almost
> insanely complex each spring to navigate the morass that our tax system 
> has become.  Sure, you can hire somebody --- but that is symptomatic of
> the problem at hand!  I certainly don't mind paying taxes (much), but I
> mind the headache and inconvenience considerably!
> 
> I shudder to think what people with less patience/education/etc feel when
> they are faced with this unfair yearly burden placed upon the people by
> our insensitive government.
> 
> Use your voice - call your senator/rep:  radical tax simplification and
> reform is needed NOW.
> 
> My $0.02,
> 
> jb

I agree wholeheartedly that the tax system as it stands now (as it
dodders now?) is in need of radical reform.  However, I am not at all
comfortable with the idea of going to a system that is paperless and
requires no taxpayer intervention.  Our situation last year was very
complicated so I have first-hand knowledge of how nasty the paperwork
can be; even so, I would rather do all the paperwork myself and KNOW
what I paid rather than have to trust the IRS to get it right for me.
It is much easier for someone to pick your pocket if they don't think
you are looking...

Karen
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Ignorance - Was Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:52:35 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <F+F=3z-@engin.umich.edu> jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)  
writes:
> Businesses generally manage resources better than the government.  
> Businesses waste resources only where government gives them  
incentives
> to do so.
> 

This just isn't the case, unless you are defining "resources"
very narrowly. Yes, business if far less likely than government
to waste resources in the short term.  Business is far less
likely than government to design a procurement system that
results in $200 toilet seats.  However, business is far
less likely to worry about things like what resources are
available 50 years from now.  

Business is also far more likely to maximize resources to their 
benefit, not the benefit of society as a whole.  Sometimes the
governement has to step in to look at things that may help the
long term good of our society. Just to take the farming issue:
the country is probably better off long term if we have a large,
diverse farming base, which includes a number of small family farms.
(As an aside, I'm always amazed that all these folks who like
to quote the Founding Fathers seem to forget that they--Jefferson,
in particular--felt that having many, many farmers was the only
way the nation could truly be free.) 

Or, to take another issue: it may be in the short term interest
of GM (to increase their bottom line over the next few years) to
move manufacturing jobs out of the US to Mexico.  However, too
much of this can hurt the US economy as a whole (and later
come back to hit GM, when not as many Americans can afford to
buy as many cars).

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
Newsgroups: ne.politics
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Ignorance - Was Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:37:32 GMT

jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:

>> 					........... Just look at the salary
>>that YOUR state represenatives are making ...  $75,000 is TOO MUCH for, what
>>is for many of them, a part-time job.  Look at their voting records!  How many
>>no-shows are there?  Come on!  Pay me that kind of money for doing next-to
>>nothing, and I would at least make sure I showed up to vote ... And why should
>>these people have their own bank, post office, etc.  Who the %$#^** are they?
>>Let them use the same facilities that everyone else has to use!  The pay and 
>>the perks are WAY TOO MUCH!  

>If you showed the same disgust for corporate waste, then I might agree with
>you.  Almost every bank I go into has fancy wood paneling, luxury furniture,
>and fancy wallpaper, etc.  Most corporate headquarters I have visited are
>like palaces, on the outside and on the inside.  Most top executives give
>themselves unbelievable perqs, such as limos with chauffers, or even private
>jets and helicopters.

>-Nick Jovanovic
>  


It is pretty obvious that neither of you have expended much thought on these
issues. The expenses and difficulties of running for and holding public
office are such that $75k per year does not even put a dent in it. Many
legislators go deeply into debt borrowing money to run a campaign and God
help them if they lose and still need contributions!! (remember there is 
usually at least one loser) They have to put up with every news hound and
busybody sniffing around their finances and personal lives. Frankly I would
not do it. Yes SOME of them are greedy , unscupulous and power hungry, but
most are dedicated to their ideals , they are human beings and are subject to
the ordinary weaknesses, but they have goals that they aim for and good 
works that they do.

As for the corporate thing: Would YOU choose a bank that was sparsely furnished
and in a store front location?? Be real!   As for the perqs... I have used 
both helicopters and limos when the situation required it and none of those
situations were hedonistic. Typically the helicopter is for those occasions
when I have a morning flight to Tokyo (back 3 days later) and I need to be
at a customer's site to wrap up some project. I work straight through the
night , catch the chopper to the airport at 7, land in Tokyo at 5pm the
next day....  etc.  Most of those who get these perqs get them because they
make sense for business reasons, when they don't make sense then the stock
holders don't allow it. 

Do people abuse their perqs, are some legislators corrupt... of course! Just
not the majority of either.

Charlie 
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*  Charles Richmond 	Integrated International Systems Corporation        *
*  cmr@world.std.com	(Temporary) cmr@koneko.shr.dec.com		    *
*  Specializing in UNIX, X, Image Processing, and Communications.           *
Newsgroups: ne.politics
From: drd@siia.mv.com (David Dick)
Subject: Re: Butt-Fucked in Massachussetts
Organization: Software Innovations, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:03:49 GMT

In <By1HqJ.EMt@world.std.com> lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) writes:

>In article <BxzHz8.HMq@world.std.com> rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker) writes:

[some vituperation elided]

>>  The vast majority of the middle class
>>(or what is left of it) do *not* want to support the basket cases of the
>>world through tax financed government programs. In additon to being
>>unloved and immoral, this approach is fraudulent, since 60 cents(at least)
>>of every dollar raised in taxes for the comfort of the poor, ends up in
>>the burocracy anyway.  Besides how many of you wan't to support slutty
>>young woman in their occupation of making babies they can't afford to feed
>>and educate. Screw'em and let them starve.

>	Assuming you are refering to income transfer payments,  the ratio
>of direct benefits to administration is more like 4 to 1.  And if you reduce
>administration costs then you are also eliminating the oversite that 
>catches cheats.

*reducing* administration costs does not necessarily mean 
*eliminating* the oversite that catches cheats.

A better way to put it would be to say that some of the administrative
cost is necessary to catch cheating, in order to avoid either
higher total costs, or less of the funds going to the intended recipients.

David Dick
Software Innovations, Inc. [the Software Moving Company]
From: jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Ignorance - Was Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 17 Nov 1992 12:32:38 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: zoo-gw.cs.yale.edu

>Let's not try to pick apart logic, and twist reality!  Just look at the salary
>that YOUR state represenatives are making ...  $75,000 is TOO MUCH for, what
>is for many of them, a part-time job.  Look at their voting records!  How many
>no-shows are there?  Come on!  Pay me that kind of money for doing next-to
>nothing, and I would at least make sure I showed up to vote ...  And why should
>these people have their own bank, post office, etc.  Who the %$#$#^** are they?
>Let them use the same facilities that everyone else has to use!  The pay and 
>the perks are WAY TOO MUCH!  


If you showed the same disgust for corporate waste, then I might agree with
you.  Almost every bank I go into has fancy wood paneling, luxury furniture,
and fancy wallpaper, etc.  Most corporate headquarters I have visited are
like palaces, on the outside and on the inside.  Most top executives give
themselves unbelievable perqs, such as limos with chauffers, or even private
jets and helicopters.

Who do you think pays for all of this luxury?  Consumers do.  You and I.
It's amazingly like taxes (esp. sales tax).  Since most big companies have
these practices (and even lots of small ones have them!), it is not easy
to just choose not to buy their products.  My perception is that there is
much more waste in the private sector than in government.  How much does
your bank's president make?

-Nick Jovanovic
  


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