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From: cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the suit info...
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:17:08 GMT

In article <2848@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>
>good ole' mark :-)

Yeah, now if he'd just get that special A/D converter finished and I
could cancel my order for those leathers... :-)

>]Was looking through _Cycle World_ and found that Competition Accessories
>]is closing out some BMW leathers for $350.
>]Does anyone know if these are good?
>]I promise to get either the blue or the grey leathers too... :-)
>
>you just think you promise to get either the blue or grey leathers.
>these are the "closeout" special leathers. BMW will not be selling 
>them any more and has cut the price over half (as you already know).
>unfortunatly you're not the first one to read about the sale, you'll 
>be lucky to find a size other than a small womens :-)

That's OK, as long as a small woman comes in them...  So where's Jane
again?? :-) :-)

>do try though, if you do find the right size then get 'em...

Interestingly enough, it looks like they had men's sizes up to 42 and 44
jacket in stock...  I ordered a 44 and will find out in a week or so if
I get a small woman or not (What do they do, poke holes in the box or do
they do it the BMW way, with her own BMW breathing apparatus?)...

Upon reflection, maybe I don't want to order a large man...  :-)

Seriously, upon initial impressions, the Competition Accessories people,
at least the BMW parts salesman, Butch, seemed to very helpful and
downright nice (possibly buying $400 worth of stuff--gloves too).  He
and I chatted about bikes after I kinda laughed when he asked what kind
of bike I ride--BMW leathers on a '78 Honda.  He then told me that he
had a '77 CB550F...

He then asked me if I wanted anything else and I said an "R100" and he
said he had four of those (nine bikes total).  Nice conversation...

After ordering the leathers, thoughts of an R100GS or a Paris/Dakaar
come to mind...  Is is because I'm part German or I want knobbies to go
gravel surfing with next time??

Back to the grind of putting the wounded Ratbike back together again...

Thanks guys for your help...

Greg
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>-- 
>Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
>Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What riding suit for both milder/colder weather & Where?
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:08:52 GMT
Reply-To: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc., ISD

In article <1992Nov8.224207.13776@spdc.ti.com] crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:
]In article <2815@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
]>In article <1992Nov6.152026.22242@spdc.ti.com> crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:
]>>
]>>  Mine is an Aerostich (tm) one-piece riding suit. 
]>>
]>>  Let me know if you want more info on the suit -- I can email it
]>>to you.
]>
]>I'd like to know how you're going to email Greg an Aerostitch [tm] riding
]>suit.
]    It takes a special talent to misinterpret simple comments.  Ah
]well, everone has to be good at something.  Did you ever consider going
]into politics? :-)

I thought I might do better as a political columnist....

-- 
Jerry Dunham                   DoF #1.5             dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
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Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: johnny@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Johnny Roberts)
Subject: Re: tires? (was SplatterFest Report)
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:49:00 GMT

> one thing to keep in mind, increasing the size of your contact patch
> does NOT increase the amount of traction you have, just as leaning off
> the side of your bike does NOT lessen your chances of the bike sliding
> out from under you.
> 
> ]Please explain.  I almost flunked physics, so pardon my ignorance.
> 
> as you spread the load out over a greater area you decrease the load
> at any given point. you give up one for the other. better to go with
> the load that the tire manufacturer designed the compound of the tire
> for. besides, who cares what fizziks has to do with it, we're talking 
> reality here...  :-)

	Well, this is true for smooth surface friction, in which case the  
amount of friction generated is dependent on the "load" and not on the  
surface area. HOWEVER, this is not true of rough surface and deformable  
surface friction, which is what you have with pavement and tires. In this  
case, frictional force IS also a function of contact patch area. 

	Now I am not saying that the bigger the patch the better, because  
there is an obvious tradeoff with huge tires, such as unsprung weight,  
linear and rotaional inertia, etc.. In addition, radically oversized tires  
do not reach thier optimum operating temperature, and thus end up losing  
traction because the tire surface is not as "sticky".

	On a side note, observe that high mileage cars have skinny tires  
while sports cars have wide tires... the former requires lighter weight  
and the latter requires lots of traction. It all depends on the  
application.

	Pardon me for using a cage as an example (shame, shame)

	GRAB YOUR PHYSICS BOOKS EVERYONE!

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From: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thanks for the suit info...
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:59:10 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Nov10.035643.12455@menudo.uh.edu> cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes) writes:
>Joe, Mark C., Jerry (for the comedy relief), and M. Parsons (for nothing): 
>
>Just wanted to say thanks for the info and laughs about the Aerostitch
>suit...  (Mark, if you still want to send one via email, I'm game...
>:-))
  u r welcome ... I'm still working on that special A/D converter :-)
>
>Was looking through _Cycle World_ and found that Competition Accessories
>is closing out some BMW leathers for $350.  they have two styles (1)
>similar to the Aerostitch with bib-pants and jacket (reg $850) and (2)
>more like real two-piece leathers that zip in the middle (reg $775).
>
>Does anyone know if these are good?  Are these like the HD merchandise
>where the BMW name is licensed and could be that expensive just because
>of the name or are these pretty well made?
  I read a review about them in one of the cycle rags a year or so ago.
  The tone of the article was that they were well made and functional,
  but over priced.  Sounds like a great buy!  Make sure you can
  return them if they don't fit.
>
>I promise to get either the blue or the grey leathers too... :-)
   But those red ones are soooo pretty! ... :-)
>
>Greg Hayes

Mark Crowder                                           crowder@spdc.ti.com 
Dallas, Tx                    88 BMW R100RS        Texas Instruments, Inc.
|Disclaimer:  The advice/comments |"Dear Lord, give me chasity and self- |
|expressed above may occasionally |restraint ... but not yet,O Lord, not |
|be worth what you paid for them. |yet!"  -- St Augustine, A.D. 354-430  |
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What riding suit for both milder/colder weather & Where?
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:06:13 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: NOT

cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes) writes:
]  Anyone who's been on a Splatterfest that has seen the red suit Steve
]Bade wears or the similar one worn by the R100RS rider at the last SF,
]could you tell me who the manufacturer is, price range, best place to
]buy/mailorder?  The weather is getting a bit colder and the leather
]jacket isn't adequate.  There's also a possibility I may go to riding
]full time so this is definitely needed.  Any other styles/manufacturers
]anyone can recommend?  Unfortunately, cost is a concern.  I can probably
]manage $300-$400, but cheaper wouldn't hurt either.

that's an aerostitch greg. 2-piece is $670. check out the motowear stuff,
it's priced in the $300-$400 range but I don't know anything about its
quality/durability.

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org                                 Austin, TX
"I don't believe in a risk free society, where the
 thrills of living are traded for the safety of existence." -- Nick Ienatsch
From: kent@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: PC800 Mods: Phase 1 Completed
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:53:47 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: stanley.nde.swri.edu


I just completed Phase 1 of my attempts to turn my PC800 into a real
motorcycle.  Consisted of:

1) ME33 CompK front
2) ML2 Rear
3) Progressive fork springs
4) 15 wt. fork oil
5) Raised forks .5" in triple clamps (about as far as I could go with
   clearances and all)

Results:
 Well, it's raining today, so I had to tippie-toe around on those new tires,
 But... the PC doesn't feel so articulated anymore :^) :^)
 Though I can tell I still need the fork brace. (A company is developing one
 and I'm 'on the list'.

Comments:

 I HAD TO REMOVE THE WHOLE BLASTED 'Body by Acura' (tm) FROM THE SEAT FORWARD
 TO GET AT THE FORKS!!! (@$@#%#%$#). Removing and reassembling this was
 9/10ths of the work.  Was Darned interesting plastic molding :^) Kinda neat.
 Glad I wasn't in a hurry or paying someone to do this. Only about 25 screws
 too.

 The PC800 looks real strange with no fairing and the instrument panel
 mounted waaaaaaay out there on the fairing brace. :^)

 Removing the rear tire was kindof fun. You see, the whole taillight assembly
 easily (yes, two screws) pulls off leaving a little garage to just roll the
 rear wheel out of. (Maybe I can slide my bicycle in there beside the rear
 tire)

 I only ended up with two spare oval step washers...! They fell out of the
 bodywork when I removed the mirrors and I never could figure out where they
 came from or where they were supposed to go.

 Once I got past the bodywork, almost everything else was REAL easy to work
 on. You can even disconnect the antidive plunger from the brake caliper
 without braking open the bottom of the fork (all my previous bikes with
 antidive required breaking open the plunger unit to disconnect the caliper
 from the fork). Maybe they are all like that now?

 I think Honda put fishoil in the forks. I mean the stuff I scummed out of
 there was NAAAAASTYYYY. Yuk! Also, I wasn't thinking clearly. I should have
 washed out the forks with alcohol or something before I put the 15wt in.

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1991 Texas Motorcycle Facts
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:13:31 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX

In article <1992Nov5.085317@se28.wg2.waii.com> starr@wg2.waii.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.045219.23820@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>|> In article <8k#q+0=@lynx.unm.edu> galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon) writes:
>|> |In article <1992Nov3.234904.16635@balrog.dseg.ti.com> keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
>|> |>...
>|> |> o A secondary benefit from the helmet law has been a 44 percent reduction
>|> |>   in motorcycle thefts (in an informal survey of selected Texas cities),
>|> |>   while total motor vehicle thefts continue to increase state wide.
>|> |
>|> |And is there *anything* that supports a *causal* relationship between a
>|> |helmet law and reduced m/c theft?  Did anything else change during the
>|> |period? (registration paperwork, potential profit from theft, overall
>|> |economic climate, etc.)
>|> 
>|> Hypothesis (and probably what the author was thinking): a thief who intends
>|> to ride away on your bike must either carry a motorcycle helmet with him, or
>|> risk being pulled over two blocks away.  It is conspicuous for a person to
>|> walk down the sidewalk with a motorcycle helmet, so fewer theives pick 
>|> motorcycles to steal.
>|> 
>|> Not to say that's the truth, only an hypothesis.
>|> 
>
>But what about the sentence at the end of that paragraph:
>	"while total motor vehicle thefts continue to increase state wide."??

What about it?  Total motor vehicle thefts are rising in the state of Texas.
An informal (non-scientific) sampling showed motorcycle thefts are dropping.
I assume they are trying to show that the drop in motorcycle thefts is not
due to a drop in total motor vehicle thefts (environmental factors) but is
probably due to something unique.
>
>Besides, many m/c riders lock their helmet on their bike.

While shopping or something, how may riders lock their helmet when they
park for the night?  or for the day?
>
>And if you're pathetic enough to steal another mans m/c, you
>probably don't give a crap about the helmet law.  If you get pulled
>over for no licence, registration, insurance, etc., you'll probably
>just get a big ticket anyway.  Not to mention the fact that most m/c
>thefts occur at night, when it is hard for the cops to tell if you have
>a helmet on or not.

Well kind of shoots your locking helmet contention doesn't it?  Even at night,
a lidless rider should stick out like a sore thumb.  Why? No reflection from
the head due to street lights or head lights.  I haven't met many flat painted
helmets.
>


-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes)
Subject: What riding suit for both milder/colder weather & Where?
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:06:58 GMT

Steve/Joe/Anybody:

  Anyone who's been on a Splatterfest that has seen the red suit Steve
Bade wears or the similar one worn by the R100RS rider at the last SF,
could you tell me who the manufacturer is, price range, best place to
buy/mailorder?  The weather is getting a bit colder and the leather
jacket isn't adequate.  There's also a possibility I may go to riding
full time so this is definitely needed.  Any other styles/manufacturers
anyone can recommend?  Unfortunately, cost is a concern.  I can probably
manage $300-$400, but cheaper wouldn't hurt either.

Thanks,

Greg Hayes
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1991 Texas Motorcycle "Facts"
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas

In article <1992Nov6.084138@se28.wg2.waii.com> starr@wg2.waii.com writes:
>Wrong.  Very wrong.  I'll bet that even before the helmet law, >70% did
>wear helmets.  Because they "feel" safer, as you allude to later.

Oh.  You're back.

In the pre-law days the adults wore helmets and the children didn't.
Certainly this screws things up, like lumping in childhood stupidity
with brain damage.  But then, if fewer people are dying from head
injuries, it really doesn't matter, does it?  Fewer people =are=
after all, dying from head injuries ...
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: SplatterPix
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:14:47 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX

In article <4148@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>
>
>
>Has anyone got good shots of the group portrait at the last fest?
>
>I'd like to get a copy, my wife wants to see what she missed.
>
>
I wouldn't say my shots came out great, at least I don't think they would
scan well.  Who had the wide angle camera?  I'm looking forward to those
shots.  Of course it had to be bloody overcast Sunday morning didn't it?

So Joe,  When are you thinking for Fest '93?  The Fest to end all Fests.
I think we should change his name to Joe "Festmeister" Senner.

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What riding suit for both milder/colder weather & Where?
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:20:26 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Nov6.020658.12570@menudo.uh.edu> cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes) writes:
>Steve/Joe/Anybody:
>
>  Anyone who's been on a Splatterfest that has seen the red suit Steve
>Bade wears or the similar one worn by the R100RS rider at the last SF,
>could you tell me who the manufacturer is, price range, best place to
>buy/mailorder?  The weather is getting a bit colder and the leather
>jacket isn't adequate.  There's also a possibility I may go to riding
>full time so this is definitely needed.  Any other styles/manufacturers
>anyone can recommend?  Unfortunately, cost is a concern.  I can probably
>manage $300-$400, but cheaper wouldn't hurt either.

  Mine is an Aerostich (tm) one-piece riding suit.  It is made of a
sandwitch of cordura nylon and gortex with a nylon liner.  It has
balistic nylon and pads at the shoulders, knees, and elbows, various
zipper-controlled vents, and numerous pockets.  It is comfortable, 
sheds water well, goes on over street clothes, and is easy to get in and
out of.  It is, however, out of your price range.  It cost me ~ $550 two
years ago.  It may be higher now (check the mc rags).  The suit itself
is not very warm, but it makes an excelent wind breaker and you can
stay warm by wearing a sweater or light jacket under it.

  Before I could afford such exotic stuff My winter mc wardrobe
consisted of ski bibs, jacket, and gloves with my rain suit worn
on the outside for a windbreaker if necessary (including booties).
This worked quite well, but probably would not have afforded much
protection in a crash.

  Let me know if you want more info on the suit -- I can email it
to you.

>
>Thanks,
>
>Greg Hayes

Mark Crowder                                           crowder@spdc.ti.com 
Dallas, Tx                    88 BMW R100RS        Texas Instruments, Inc.
|Disclaimer:  The advice/comments |"Dear Lord, give me chasity and self- |
|expressed above may occasionally |restraint ... but not yet,O Lord, not |
|be worth what you paid for them. |yet!"  -- St Augustine, A.D. 354-430  |
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: cscc1f@menudo.uh.edu (Gregory W Hayes)
Subject: Thanks for the suit info...
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:56:43 GMT

Joe, Mark C., Jerry (for the comedy relief), and M. Parsons (for nothing): 

Just wanted to say thanks for the info and laughs about the Aerostitch
suit...  (Mark, if you still want to send one via email, I'm game...
:-))

Was looking through _Cycle World_ and found that Competition Accessories
is closing out some BMW leathers for $350.  they have two styles (1)
similar to the Aerostitch with bib-pants and jacket (reg $850) and (2)
more like real two-piece leathers that zip in the middle (reg $775).

Does anyone know if these are good?  Are these like the HD merchandise
where the BMW name is licensed and could be that expensive just because
of the name or are these pretty well made?

I promise to get either the blue or the grey leathers too... :-)

Greg Hayes
Newsgroups: tx.test
From: tstanley@dbaix.oc.com (Tim Stanley)
Subject: OCS II for DECstation 5000
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:20:03 GMT

this is a test

Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Football Failures at Bowie Force end of Season
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas

In article <1992Nov7.125956.21876@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>And just what do you want to do when they start burglerizing John
>Haugh's house?  Oh, that's right -- he didn't pay for police services,
>so we won't do anything.  :-)

Call the county medical examiner and tell them to take away the
dead body?  Iacoletti will tell you that I own guns and am able
to use them.  If you broke into my house I wouldn't think twice
before shooting you.  If you broke into my neighbors house and
I knew you weren't welcome, again, I wouldn't think twice before
shooting you.

Actually, I wish you wouldn't drag me into your childish
arguments.  John Haugh is, after all, not a party to the
discussion (even if he is the Neighborhood Watch block captain
for his end of the street ...)
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org