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From: baer@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: InterRail
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:11:03 GMT

In article <CC.92Nov13164015@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
> In article <endecotp.721484892@cs.man.ac.uk> endecotp@cs.man.ac.uk (PB Endecott (PhD SFurber)) writes:
> 
>    Yes!  It is true, France is pulling out of InterRail, as are (I think)
>    Italy and Spain.  Most of the other countries remain for the time being,
>    but with only the British Isles, Germany, Benelux, Scandinavia, and Eastern
>    Europe, and none of the atractive "sunny" contries, there is a good chance
>    that the whole scheme will colapse.
>
What about Eurail?  Will this program stick around (though I must say
its recent prices hardly make it attractive).
 
> The UK has never been in Interrail as far as I know.  (Don't know about Ireland.)
> --
> 	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
> 
> 		
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Douglas Baer, Department of Sociology,
University of Western Ontario, London, Canada N6A 5C2
Internet: BAER@UWOVAX.UWO.CA   

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From: imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill)
Subject: Re: Alamo Car Rental immoral practices 
Distribution: world
Organization: MC Computers
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:16:20 +0000

I'm going to have to jump in folks and say something good about Alamo.  I'm
just back from a holiday on the west coast. I spent 4 days in S.F. and then
went to pick up a car I had already booked for a drive to Las Vegas.  I got
my car, no problem, drove out of the rental place, and then discovered I'd
made the biggest mistake of my life.  I'd completely under-estimated the
difficulties in driving on the right hand side of the road.  Couple that
problem with being in a strange city, and different rules of the road, and of
course being on my own so no navigator, I very quickly decided that I would
probably kill someone (most likely me).  So I headed back for the rental
place.  Now I think its around here somewhere.... 2 Hours later, I gave up,I
couldn't find it, so as a last resort, I flagged down a cab, and hired him
to lead me to the alamo rental!!  When I got there, I explained the situation,
I think that it was quite visible that I was a bit shaken up, but I was very
suprised that they gave me a FULL refund, even though I'd had the car for
about 3 hours and obviously used some petrol too.  I had been expecting at
least a day to be taken, or, as I had booked in advance for 1 week, they
could have taken the lot.  But no they didn't take a single penny.  Now I
don't know if a caught them on a good day or what, but my faith was restored
in big company policy that day.

Seeing all the flank that Alamo was taking here, I just had to tell my story.
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From: hshulman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harvey G Shulman)
Subject: Re: Yucatan  Information
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:25:45 GMT


You should consider the area south of Cancun including Playa Del Carmen,
Akumal and Tulum.  Cozumel is also interesting and older more authentic
than Cancun, though still a tourist draw.

Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.african
From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Subject: Re: EGYPT, how safe/crazy is it now?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:54:41 GMT


In article <1992Nov23.163727.12937@ll.mit.edu> malpass@ll.mit.edu (Don Malpass) writes:
>  [...] If you have thoughts to share on this subject, please email them
>to me and perhaps post them for others.  I have a few weeks in which to
>make up my mind before forfeiting more than the deposits.

  The answer is: safe! While there is no guarantee, I can tell you from
personal experience that Egypt is very safe as far as violence is concerned.

  What you should watch out for is pickpockets and swindlers. Aside from that,
the chance of being a victim of violence in Egypt is minute compared to the
chance of being killed in any major city in the US.

  The recent violence is great in comparison with previous years, but not in
comparison with other countries.

  Have an enjoyable trip and don't forget to visit Luxor.


Regards,

Mazen Mokhtar

From: chua@hpsgwr.sgp.hp.com (Justin Chua)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:48:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Info request: How to spent a day in Japan
Organization: HP Singapore Asian Design Ctr
Newsgroups: rec.travel

I picked up a pamphlet entitled "Transit at Narita" or something that 
suggests places to go depending on how much time you have. I think 
you should be able get the same pamphlet in the airport.

Regards,
Justin
From: kamal@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Kamal Anand)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info about Hotels in Bangkok, Thailand
Date: 21 Nov 1992 22:48:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: camilla-50
Keywords: hotels, accomodation, thailand, bangkok, budget


I would like to get information about places to stay in Bangkok. 
I will be there for 4 nights during the month of January and wanted 
to stay in a nice, clean budget hotel. I am looking for hotels in 
the $20-$60 per night price range somewhere in town which close to 
various sigthseeing places. 

Any positive or negative experiences with hotels in Bangkok will 
be helpful. Also, if there are books that have lists of such hotels, 
please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Kamal Anand

kamal@Eng.Sun.COM		sun!eng!kamal


--

--Kamal.
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: shm@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Shailendra Majmundar)
Subject: Touring Russia and Thailand
Reply-To: shm@syl.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 13:45:07 GMT

My brother is planning to go from JFK to Bombay and would like to stop by
Moscow while going and Thailand while comming back. He is a student and
does not care about comforts or if the schedule gets messed when flights
get delayed (alas! what a luxury!!). 

Can someone suggest a cheaper alternative such as Standby or Cargo tkts?
Also would appreciate any tips about sight seeing and touring in the former
Soviet Union and Thailand.

Thanks in advance!
Shailendra Majmundar (shm@syl.nj.nec.com)
From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Two Months in South America
Date: 22 Nov 92 15:55:52 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Nov20.215450.2600@u.washington.edu>
mattf@cac.washington.edu (Matthew Freedman) writes: 
>I have two months or so available to travel (February and March
>probably), and I am planning on going to South America. I am interested
>in suggestions on which country(s?) to go to. I definitely am not
>interested in trying to do a whirlwind tour of the continent, I will
>probably go to just one, maybe two countries. Which would you recommend
>and why?

I would get the South American Handbook, as I have found it superior
to the Lonely Planet Books for South America.  I would suggest two
possibilities.  (1) Go to Brazil and learn some Portuguese!  February
will be one long party virtually anywhere you go in the country except
Sao Paulo.  The whole north is relatively undeveloped, has great
beaches, and has authentic carnival celebrations.  If you're so
inclined, head to Rio for the pageantry of its celebrations during the
actual week of Carnival.  I did this in 1982 on a tiny budget and had
a fantastic time.  There is much to see to occupy the time after
Carnival, especially Iguassu Falls, the colonial Cities and mountains
of Minas Gerais, and the Amazon.  (2) Go to Ecuador.  See the
mountains and the jungle, then head out to the Galapagos for a week or
more.  It will be unforgettable.  Again, I did this on a fairly tight
budget in 1980, but it will be relatively expensive to go the Islands.
However, I think you will consider it money well-spent if you can
somehow get it together.

I've also been to Peru, Venezuela, and Bolivia.  I loved Peru, but
think it is still not a good time to go there.  Also, late winter and
early spring is the rainy season in the Andes.  Ecuador will not be as
affected as Peru or Bolivia.  

SJM
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From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Whistler BC Weather Thanksgiving Week
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:20:21 GMT
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University

In article <1ecn4eINNnuu@male.EBay.Sun.COM> adamt@ant.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>I am traveling to Whistler, BC for Skiing during Thanksgiving
>week.  Is there enough snow, or should I leave my skis at home?
>
>
Ummm, Thanksgiving was back in October! :-)  
If you mean the last week of November, however (and I think you do)...
from what I have heard, there is snow there.  (but don't quote me on it,
info like this can change at this time of year.  As well, Whistler is some
4000 kms from where I live!)  I think you'll be in luck, though.

-- 
Scott B. Weaver		Internet: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca
"Dream Weaver"		UUCP: ...!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!mach1!sweaver3
Patience comes to 	Snail: 2C-264 Regina Street North
those who wait...	       Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 3B7
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: randall@ccrs.emr.ca (David Randall)
Subject: Plans for travel to Australia, Asia
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:59:35 GMT

I will be travelling to Melbourne, Australia in late Feb.  To date, I have 
found a ticket from Vancouver, Canada to Melbourne for about 1500CAN.

Does this sound cheap...any other suggestions ????

Also, I will be travelling through Asia for about 2-4 months.  Any places that
I should see or avoid???

I really don't have any set plans yet...but hopefully soon I may have some      
better ideas of what I'll be doing.  

Any comments would help enormously...

		Thanks,
			Dave
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Randall                        
randall@ccrs.emr.ca             
University of Waterloo co-op
From: mwirth@neumann.une.edu.au (Michael Wirth)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ATreekingekiking in the U.S.
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:07:38 GMT


Subject: Hiking the Appalachian Trail
Newsgroups: rec.travel

Hi,
I am very interested in doing some trekking along the Appalachian Trail,
probably starting out from Maine and moving through New England,
maybe as far down as the Shenandoah Valley next year. I'm heading
state-side probably around August, and was wondering if anyone had
some ideas about wandering the trail. What is a good time of year to
walk the trail? etc. I would be most grateful for any information.

Thanks in advance.
Michael

Please forward all email to michael@is3000.bmr.gov.au. Thanks.

Michael Wirth
Australian Geological Survey Organization
Canberra, A.C.T. 2601
A U S T R A L I A
Internet: michael@is3000.bmr.gov.au
or        michael@ia6240.bmr.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Travelling the British Isles - the best way?
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:59:08 GMT

I'll be going around the UK in Jan-Mar, possibly (probably) longer.
Now, I don't really relish the idea of relying on the railways for
transport, at least, not all the time. Also, they would end up by
costing reasonably large amounts of money if used all the time.

Not being into hitch-hiking, nor large amounts of walking (except
along, say, Hadrian's Wall, or [OU]ffa's Dyke), how practical would
it be to buy a cheap banger, like a Mini (which I can reassemble 
blindfolded) or Escort or something? How much could I expect to pay
for one with 6 months MOT? Obviously it will be dilapidated, but
that's no problem, and it won't exactly be driven hard.

As I see it the advantages are that my movements are flexible,
and I'm not restricted to where the public transport can take me.


thanks,
-- 
thos cohen                  ,not a typo        |Softway Pty Ltd
"It's not so bad to be a lair but a conniving  |ACSnet:         thos@softway.oz
 egomaniac is not really that socially accept- |UUCP: ...!uunet!softway.oz!thos
 able."  SMH, 2 Nov 92, P. Keating vs J. Hewson|Internet:    thos@softway.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.indian
From: bsmg9810@dcl-nxt32 (Bhaskar S. Manda)
Subject: Re: Bad experience on Malaysia Airlines
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:15:17 GMT

venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (ABDUL PETER IYENGAR) writes:
>>>I travelled to India from California during the month of October on
>>>Malaysia Airlines.  I had heard a lot about the *EXCELLENT* service on
>>>Malaysia and Singapore Airlines, but my experience was just the
>>>opposite.  The flight leaving from LA was delayed by almost 2 hours and

	... description of bad service ...
>>>Aruna
>>
>>I have an even more interesting story to tell about Malaysian Airlines.
>> .....
>>THe service throughout was pathetic and they were discourteous. I
>>would strongly recommend that people dont travel by Malaysian Airlines.
>>The first time I travelled I didnt have any problems, but last
>>december it was pathetic. Spent 6 days of my 25 days vacation at
>>--Shivakumar

>MS Aruna Mahadevan thinks like most Indians abroad do,A couple of
>trips between here and India and they nominate themselves as members of the 
>elite jetsetting club and expect the air hostess and stewards to wait hand
>and foot on them.Apart from getting your meals on time and soft drinks or 
>liquor which they promptly do are they supposed to to a song and dance
>sequence to prove the are polite.
>I don't understand what every netter means when he or she say service
>was courteous.
>This may be related to the thread of tipping the waiters. For the
>paltry salary and gratuity if they earn any,what else do we expect
>pay obeisence to us for the one meal we eat or the one trip we take.
>In any case a bulk of the price we pay goes to the owners of the 
>concerns and these people are just a rung on the ladder that is above
>the cleaner and sweepers. even if this job is to quench the fire in their
>belly how many of us will do the job without being frustrated?
>How many of us can maintain a consistent face with the hundreds of 
>different people with their different peculiarities and whims and fancies.
>The amount we spend posting these ridiculous anecdotes and gripes would
>be more expensive than waiters we can tip for a coupole of years. That 
>is how priviliged we are.
>It is like discussing poverty in a five star hotel.
>gopa
>ABDUL PETER IYENGAR

Man oh man oh man ....
Talk about missing the point.
By the way, you forgot to mention the standard disclaimer about
you not being in the employ of or being related in any other way
to the airline under discussion.

Bhaskar
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Books on Tahiti/French Polynesia
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:19:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA


  When I travel someplace, even for a short time I like to 
  "get into" the place as much as I reasonably can.  I like
  to read up on the history, culture, natural history, and
  current political and other issues on the place I'm visiting.
  
  I also like to try to find works of fiction that capture
  the feel of the place.  


  My wife and I are going to French Polynesia and Society 
  Islands in December.   But I can't find a thing in the
  bookstores except travel books in the travel section.  
  even _Books In Print_ doesn't seem to show much except huge,
  weighty (in both senses) scholarly tomes.   And of 
  course, finding fiction on a topic like this using 
  _Books In Print_ as a tool is like searching for the Holy
  Grail.    I've *never* found a good, systematic way to
  look for works of fiction in any topic! 


---peter                                 



PS -- Several American authors have a reputation for writing about
      the Pacific.   Jack London has a number of stories set 
      mainly in Hawaii.   James Michener has his famous _Tales
      of the South Pacific_ but this was mainly set down on Espirito
      Santo during WWII, and Melville has some stories set in 
      the Marquesas during the mid-19th century.
From: hwc@sei.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Ft. Lauderdale/Bahamas Vacation package for Sale
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:53:11 GMT
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute


This is a 7day /6night package deal* through Vacation Break USA quickly listed
below:
	Ft. Lauderdale:	3 days ( + 1 day upon return from G.Bahamas)
			at either the Sheratons or the Hiltons

	6 hour cruise to Grand Bahamas via Discovery 1 or Seascape

	Grand Bahamas:	2 days 
			at the Lucayan Marina or the Port Lucayan Resort&Marina
		
	* You'll have to attend a 45 minute tour of one of their resort 
	properties in Ft. Lauderdale.


True, we've seen similar posts on this board about this same deal.  I bought
it because it's a great deal and I planned to use it on a specific date.
However, the person I was supposed to go with no longer wants to go (I no
longer want to go with that person either).  Besides I want to go to Cancun,
Mexico instead.

**Benefits:
     - 7 days/ 6nights luxury accomodations for only $378 (for 2 people).
     - You can take this trip *ANYTIME* within the next 28, yes 28 months!
     - No obligation to buy into any property.
     - trip is fully insured

Sounds too good to be true?  Well, the people at Vacation Break truly believe 
in the soundness of their product and promotional business method.

Please e-mail for more information, thanks.
Howie
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jadams@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (adams,john)
Subject: Re: Customs (bringing thing out and into the US)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:48:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.052107.27738@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.010427.1879@informix.com> billd@informix.com (William Daul) writes:
>>From a Naive Traveller:
>>
>>I want to take a small radio and a couple of CDs out of the US.
>>How will customs know I already owned them when I return?

I've taken laptops, and other stuff out and back successfully by first visiting US
Customs before departing and having the item inpsected and a small form (forgot
form number) filled out declaring that it was mine before I left.  Getting these items
back in was simply a matter of showing these little receipt like forms to the
inspector.
-- 
Jack (John) Adams			| Bellcore NVC 2Z-220
(908) 758-5372 {Voice}			| (908) 758-4389 {Facsimile}
jadams@vixen.bellcore.com		| kahuna@attmail.com
	-- Illigitimi non carborundum est -- Kris Kristofferson
From: jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel Tips.. Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:05:15 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)
Originator: vijay@vijay.austin.ibm.com


Hi,

I will be going to Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong next month.

What will be the weather like?   Will I need a thick jacket in Japan?
What all should I see?  I will be in Tokyo for 3 days, Hong Kong for 2,
and Singapore for 2.  What is the best way to get to the hotel from
the airport?  How much money should I carry with me?  I plan to pay for
the hotels on my credit card.

Since I have never been to those places any advise that I get will
be helpfull.


Thanks

Vijay


-- 
**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Does MasterCard "work" in New Zealand?
From: Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:29:33 GMT
Reply-To: Pat Cain <cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>
Organization: SillyNews, Sideways bulletin board, Lower Hutt, New Zealand

sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug),
  in article <1992Nov17.172515.24468@news.uit.no> writes:
> Is it possible to "survive and get around" with a MasterCard in New Zealand?
> Is the MC well accepted by shops, motels, restaurants, banks etc. all over 
> the country?

Nearly all shops accept Visa, Mastercard and Bankcard.  I operate a
business and we usually receive more MasterCard transactions than Visa
ones--MC is quite popular here.  Not sure about ATMs, most of them
accept Visa cards, so presumably they accept Mastercard too (Mastercard
is offered by most of the major banks).
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- New Zealand
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:25:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - New Zealand
============================================================
New Zealand - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy and Consulate Locations:  The U.S. Embassy in New Zealand 
is located at 29 Fitzherbert Terrace, Thorndon, Wellington - 
telephone: (64-4) 472-2068.  The U.S. Consulate General in Auckland 
is located on the 4th floor, Yorkshire General Building, Corner of 
Shortland and O'Connell Streets, - telephone: (64-9) 303-2724.  The 
U.S. Consular Agent in Christchurch may be reached c/o Price 
Waterhouse Center, 119 Armagh Street, tel. (64-3) 379-0040.

Country Description:  New Zealand is a highly developed stable 
parliamentary democracy which recognizes the British monarch as 
sovereign.  It has a modern economy and tourist facilities are 
widely available.

Entry Requirements:  A passport is required.  A visa is not 
required for tourist/business stays of up to three months, and 
visitors must have onward/return tickets and a visa for the next 
destination.  Proof of sufficient funds may also be required with 
prearranged accommodations.  Specific information is available 
through the Embassy of New Zealand, 37 Observatory Circle, N.W., 
Washington, D.C. 20008 - telephone: (202) 328-4800 or the Consulate 
General of New Zealand in Los Angeles - telephone: (213) 477-8241.

Medical Facilities:  Good medical care is widely available.  
Doctors and hospitals may expect immediate cash payment for health 
services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the 
United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with specific 
overseas coverage has proved useful.  The international travelers 
hotline at the Centers for Disease Control (404) 332-4559 has 
additional useful health information.

Information on Crime:  Crime in New Zealand is comparatively low 
but has increased in recent years.  Foreign visitors, including 
those from the U.S., are seldom victims of crime.  The most 
prevalent incident is occasional theft or attempted theft.  However, 
there have been several recent murders of foreign women tourists.  
Useful information on guarding valuables and protecting personal 
security while traveling abroad is provided in the Department of 
State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad".  It is available from the 
Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, 
Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy or U.S. 
Consulate can obtain updated information on travel and security 
within the country.

 No. 92-107