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From: astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Can you connect a RGB display to a SVGA controller card?
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:10:51 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore

In article <q4qnzlm.esprit@netcom.com>, esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
> 
> I have a nice RGB display that I would like to connect to my clone.
> 
> The display has five connectors for R, G, B, H and V.  It is from an
> engineering workstation (circa 1987).  That is all I know about it now,
> but I am able to find out anything else about it.
> 
> I was at a store a couple weeks ago and saw an RGB display connected to
> an SVGA card in a PC, so I know it can be done.  I just need the
> details.
> 
> Can anyone out there help me with this?
> 
> alan

I have done this with a very old RGB Display.  You have to make a connector
which connects the following pins on the 15 pin VGA socket to BNC connectors
for the RGB Monitor.

 
VGA     Function
PIN
------- ----------------------
1       RED
2       GREEN
3       BLUE
4       (Reserved)
5       Digital Ground
6       RED Return
7       GREEN Return
8       BLUE Return
9       (Plug)
10      Digital Ground
11      Monitor Sensor 0
12      Monitor Sensor 1
13      Horizontal Drive
14      Veritical Drive
15      (Reserved)



The RED, GREEN and BLUE should be drawn out as three BNC (I assume your RGB
monitor uses BNC) connectors. Connect these pins to the signal (centre) of the
Coaxial cable.  Connect the R/G/B Returns to the shield of the respective RGB
coaxes.

The H and V BNC should be connected to the Horizontal and Vertical Drive signal
respectively.  If I remember correctly, you can use the digital ground as the
signal return.

In my case, the monitor accepted only composite sync so I ahd to plug to signal
straight into the board after the sync seperator circuitry.

I have used the same cable with a large screen projector as well.

You shouldn't be able to damage your equipment, BUT THIS INFORMATION IS
PROVIDED AS IS, GRATIS, WITH NO LIABILITY ON MY PART OR THE 
ORGANISATION FOR WHICH I WORK.   USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.  


Regards.



T.S. Loke
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
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From: sll@ely.uk.ac.cam.cl (Sai Lai Lo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Info on Novell NE2100?
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:28:10 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge

I'm looking for information on this ethernet card. A local company which
sell this card claimed that it uses ISA bus mastering instead of on-board
RAM buffer. Is that true? (Note: it is NE2100, not NE2000)

Also, i read from some trade rags that AMD(?) has developed a single chip
ethernet controller with ISA bus mastering. Is there any card in the market
which use this chip?

Sai-Lai


 
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From: daw50509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (me )
Subject: Re: Shaking Screen, is problem with monitor or with the Graphics card ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:14:20 GMT

yoon@csgo.usc.edu (Dae-kyun Yoon) writes:

>Dear Netters,

>I recentrly bought Viewsonic 5+ monitor and Diamond Stealth Vram card. 
>I am genrally happy with this combination, especially the speed at 
>1024x768x256 mode is very impressive.  With 70hz scan rate I can no longer
>see any flickering.   
>However, the screen is a little bit shaking, and it bothers me sometimes.  
>If I am in 800x600 mode, (though I am not using this mode) the phenomenon 
>is very annoying.  I am wondering if the problem is mainly with the monitor
>or with graphics card.  Does anybody have any comments on this ?

>I would appreciate any comments.

>Best regards,

I recently had a similar problem with my moniter. It took me a week to
find out that a magnetic field generated by the ballast from a flourescent
light near my moniter was causing this problem. Luckily the damage wasn't
permanent.
From: daparish@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: BI-DIRECTIONAL PRINTER CARD FOR PC?
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:17:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: beckman.1992Sep10.181732.991
Organization: Beckman Instruments, Inc.

In article <exuptr.461.716059691@exu.ericsson.se>, exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>>Does anyone know of a supplier or manufacturer of bi-directional
>>printer port cards for the PC (ISA bus)?  I need a couple to
>>interface to some prototype communications hardware that I am
>>building.
> 
>>If not, does anyone know of any standard (currently available)
>>printer cards that can be modified to run bi-directionally, (I like
>>a nice hardware hack!!).
$
> Correct me if I'm worng, someone, but aren't all parallel perts bi-
> directional?  Otherwise how would these tape backup units that connect to 
> your parallel port work?
>   - Patrick Taylor
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok, for anyone following this thread, we now have a couple of posts, one saying
most parallel ports are made for "output-only", one saying read-write.
for my 2c. I figure that most must be read-write. I've used both the parallel
port tape backup and the lan-pocket-ethernet card. I've not seen a machine that
wouldn't work with them.
I had also heard rumors about cheap, output only parallel ports.

Can anyone else explain/unravel the mystery of the output-only port?

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From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Mail Order Companies.
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:26:05 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep8.170911.24428@news.acns.nwu.edu>, gersappe@casbah.acns.nwu.e
du (Dilip Gersappe) writes:
>Hi there,
>I am fairly new to the PC world and I am now in the market for a 386
>based machine. I have gone through the customary magazines to try and
>find a good mail order place and have finally decided on a few. The ones
>that I am looking at are
>Cornell
>Altec
>Fast Micro
>If anyone has had any experience with the above I would appreciate
>it if they could e-mail me. I am particularly interested in the machne
>by Cornell computers as they seem to have the best deal.
>
>Thanks..
>
>Dilip
>gersappe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
>
Do not waste your money on a 386.  For a few dollars more enter the 486 age or
at least a 486sx(not recommended) or a 486 dx 25meg.  Past history indicates
that a state of the art machine usually cost about $2000.00.  This has been
basically true since before the APPLE II.

Denials.

George
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From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: Local Bus, what is it?
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 18:03:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.060102.316@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> yin@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>
>My question may sound very ignorant, but could anyone tell me what is local 
>bus, or refer me to a technical reference?  Is it an alternative to EISA, 
>or just an interface for hard disk and monitor, or internal bus?  Does 
>it pose any compatibility problem?
>
>I would appreciate any answer in email.  Many thanks in advance.

LOCAL BUS is the bus that your processor accesses memory on. It runs at the
same speed as the processor. This is much faster than EISA. Most people
who buy EISA, buy one because they want faster hard disk access, 
faster video, and faster Ethernet access. I would exepect to see in the
upcoming months boards designed to accomodate LOCAL BUS SCSI, IDE, ETHERNET;
Not necessarily from ZEOS. 


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From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Re: 1x9 vs. 1x3 memory
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.164957.5227@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Sep9.180601.11141@unislc.uucp>, erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
|> >A friend has got a Micronics motherboard that has 1MBx9 SIMMS on it.  He
|> >ordered additional memory from Midwest Micro Peripherals, ostensibly 1x9s.
|> >When the memory arrived, he discovered that they were 1MBx3s.  So, Micronics
|> >tells him that he can't use 1x3s above 8MB.
|> >
|> >He called around several places, and found out that most people are starting
|> >to sell 1x3s instead.  Does anyone know of a reliable supplier of 1MBx9s?
|> >-- 
|> >Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
|> >"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
|> >happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
|> >and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
|> 
|> That's the first I've heard of 1MB*3s.  What you're really referring to is
|> the fact that they use 1mb*4 bit chips instead of 1mb*1bit chips on the sim.
|> 
|> On an older 1mb * 9 sim, you would have nine discrete 1mb chips.
|> 
|> On a newer 1mb * 9 sim, you would have two 1mb*4 bit chips (= to 1mb * 8)
|> + one 1 mb * 1 chip (sometimes they actually use a 1mb * 4 chip here too),
|> for a total of three chips.
|> 
|> It should make no difference whatsoever: both types of simms are 1MB * 9 bits,
|> just packaged differently.  The result should be transparent to the computer.
|> 
|> Alex
|> 

Sorry, but you're wrong! It does make a difference. Older type computers only
refresh the first column of a memory chip. This works fine if all chips are 1
Mbit (as the 9-chip 1 MB SIMMs). However, in 4 MB SIMMs, that have their memory
lined up in 4 columns of 1 Mbit each, only the first column will be refreshed.
The other columns will lose their data. So the newer 3-chip SIMMs can only be
used in newer types of computers!


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From: jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
Subject: Re: Info on Under-Ware Electronics
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:40:12 GMT

	I'm affaid that your going to get more bad report than good ones becuase
the "good" people don't usually stand up to be counted. But here is a good one!

	The first thing I bought from UnderWare was a PaperWhite TTL monitor
for use with the EGA card I had bought for my first AT building attempt. Before
buying the equipment, I asked if it would work with the card I had. They told 
me no problem. Of course it was "cheap" but the monitor still works AND it was
brand new. No problems.
	The second item I purchase from them was a 72M/105M MFM/RLL FH Imprism
HardDrive with an RLL ctrlr card. After getting it, I couldn't get the card to 
work with my machine... I called TECH support and they help me decide that it
was the Card that was doing it. Mainly because I had a MFM that work well with
the Machine-drive... I sent the bugger back to them, and the sent a replacement
back promptly. Got it back, put it in, found out that my Video ShadowRom option
in the AT setup was conflicting with the CTRLR card. Not a problem of UWE. So,
After many mths of putting up this the anoying 30sec delay in POST, I called

UWE to tell them of the problem so that they could tell other customers if they
had a simular problem... I STILL use this drive to this day! 6mths later started
having squeaking noises after the warrenty had run out, The Tech support helped
me and told my that the problem was most likely dirt in the metal contacts of 
drive. Told me if I felt like it to remove the various peices and clean the
area with a Q-tip, achohol, and put some fine grade oil on the spot. Now every
6mths or so I have to remove the drive and clean it... Same for the PW supply
fan... 

In short {To late} I would HIGHLY recommend them. I will continue to buy from
them in the future. 

John
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From: renebi@idt.unit.no (Olaf Rene Birkeland)
Subject: Re: 1x9 vs. 1x3 memory
Reply-To: renebi@idt.unit.no
Organization: The Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:05:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.010146.7258@cs.mcgill.ca>, storm@uriel (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep11.164957.5227@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ajb8886@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
|> >It should make no difference whatsoever: both types of simms are 1MB * 9 bits,
|> >just packaged differently.  The result should be transparent to the computer.
|> 
|> 	A lot of people with older motherboards seeking SIMMs have had problems
|> using the 1MBx3 Chips.  However, I just recently plugged 1MBx3 SIPs into
|> a two year old 386SX and there were no problems, so I would suspect that
|> the board would have to be VERY old...
|> 

The 3/9-chip SIMM story is as follows:

The first 4Mbit chips had a JEDEC test mode which could be accidential
entered when used in a system designed only for the 1Mbit chips. Due
to this the first 3-chippers failed in some machines.

Later the 4Mbits have been remade without the JEDEC test mode, and
these should have no problems in 1Mbit systems. The JEDEC test mode is
of no use for the end user, so the safest way is to always go for
non-JEDEC chips. (Both are in current production.)

This gives the possibility for designing for 4Mbit as for 1Mbit
(without JEDEC test mode), and the problems will reapear as we start
to move on to 16Mbit in a few months. 

-Olaf Rene

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From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cache Upgrade on OPTI386/WB
Date: 8 Sep 92 06:24:18 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <715883297.AA00622@asstdc.oz.au> imb@asstdc.oz.au (michael butler) writes:
>I have an OPTI 386/WB running at 40MHz :-) but it only has 64k of cache.
>
>Given that I want to add _lots_ of memory to run unix (I already have 8Mb), I
>wonder if someone might be able to tell me what devices are required to
>replace the existing cache and tag ram ?
>
>Replies by email much appreciated,
>
>    michael
>    imb@asstdc.oz.au

I'm not sure if I have "the same" motherboard as what you have but my
manual indicates that to me to upgrade from a 64K cache, I only need to
replace the eight(8) 8Kx8 sram with eight(8) 32Kx8 ones.  The three tag
ram chips for all configuration (32 to 256K) for my motherboard are all
16K*4 so no need to change those.  Also, for a 386/40, my manual being
for a 33/40 chip, recommends that I use 20ns sram chips for cache and
15ns for tag.  Hope this helps.

George
From: qureshi@ug.cs.dal.ca (Saqib Ahmed Qureshi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: <<<<<<<<<< Conveting an XT joystick to an AT joystick>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:03:09 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


Hi,
 I went just bought a XT compat joystick in a second hand store...for $4.
 Now (of all things) I find my AT 386/40 doesn't wanna talk to my joystick.
 So I was wondering if:
 a) somebody could point me to some resource (mags,books,etc) that would
    explain the differences..how these are solved would be helpful.
 b) somebody could point out these differences themselves and point out
    the modifications I can make to that crummy joystick.
 c)As an out line could someone explain the AT joystick port signals and
   the XT's?
 
 Thats about it.I'm stuck with an extra peripheral that will soon become just
 a fancy paper weight...so any help is welcome.Please reply by e-mail.
 Thanks in advance.
				     -Saqib

PS: Refund? Nah..the store has a huge sign declaring : NO REFUNDS ..darn..
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From: jpistrit@oracle.uucp (Joe Pistritto)
Subject: 68030 on Multibus (& dev environment)
Keywords: 68k Multibus
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:12:45 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I'm looking foranyone making cross development tools for the 68020 and 68030
that run on the IBMPC (either DOS or OS/2 based).  ALso, I'm looking for
a manufacturer of the 68020 or 68030 cpu cards that go in a MULTIBUS I
(original 10mhz Intel Multibus) card slot.  This is for an upgrade of
an existing system that I don't want to change the architecture of.

Please send any pointers to jpistrit@oracle.com or by phone to +14155062866.

					Thanks,
					-jcp-
					jpistrit@oracle.com

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From: hsu@pix.com (Dagwood Splits the Atom)
Subject: Re: New Gateway 200066Mhz local bus ISA
Organization: Pix -- The company with no adult supervision.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:40:47 GMT

In article <s_fuller.715478720@vincent2.iastate.edu> s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
>In <78978@ut-emx.uucp> slug@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Glen Anthony Graham) writes:
>>Can you please confirm that the ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA is a LOCAL BUS version?
>
>I called Gateway as well. Here's what I got. The ATI Graphics
>Ultra IS going to be a local bus card, however the machine itself
>is putting the cart ahead of the horse. According to the rep that
>I talked to, the 66 DX/2 hasn't been given to developers yet. She
>said they were expecting a 20 - 50 day wait for the chip.

Probably true for volume shipments.  The chip itself is real, however,
and somewhat available; I saw maybe half a dozen of them at PanPacific
in Sunnyvale last week, and they were asking $850 apiece.  Several
other vendors had full systems for sale on their showroom floors.

-dave

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From: donm@crash.cts.com (Don Maslin)
Subject: Re: Western Digital phone no.? 
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:16:48 PDT

 
Western Digital
    Technical support: (800) 832-4778, 7am--5pm Pacific time, Mon-Fri.
 
    BBS (714) 756-1234 [2400-8N1]
        (714) 753-1068 [9600-8N1]
        Contains copies of most of their documentation.
From: rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 8259 PIC information wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:18:36 GMT
Organization: RGB Spectrum

c60b-1fk@e260-1c.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy) writes:

>Wanted:  Information on the programmable interrupt controller
>in the AT.  
> 
>Specifically, information on the actual act of repramming the
>IRQ numbers.  I know how to disable and enable certain interrupts.
>I've been looking through code for DOS extenders and other 386 
>protected mode software and they all have some code which redirects
>the IRQs and I want to know the details.  Any information is appreciated.


Why don't you do what the rest of us have done and get the
data book for the part?  NEC, National, and Intel all have these
in their data books.



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From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Arguments Against Local Bus?  (Was: Local Bus, what is it?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:58:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1992Sep09.014838.22919
Organization: University of Washington

kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:
| LOCAL BUS is the bus that your processor accesses memory on. It runs at the
| same speed as the processor. This is much faster than EISA. Most people
| who buy EISA, buy one because they want faster hard disk access, 
| faster video, and faster Ethernet access. I would exepect to see in the
| upcoming months boards designed to accomodate LOCAL BUS SCSI, IDE, ETHERNET;
| Not necessarily from ZEOS. 

  I have pretty much decided on getting a 66DX2 vesa-local-bus system,
  but before I do, I'd like to hear some arguments against it.  What
  are some of the drawbacks of a local bus?  Wouldn't a 32-bit video card,
  a SCSI controller and an Ethernet card all the same bus cause some 
  problems?  What are the drawbacks of the VESA-standard VL-bus versus
  the upcoming Intel PCI local-bus?
  ==
  Bob                                           Seattle, Washinton
From: tau@ee.ubc.ca (AU TRI BANG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: motherboard buzzes when system is busy
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:16:09 GMT
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Sep3.123255.1663@pt.com> kcc@pt.com (Kevin Chalker) writes:
>In article <rreiner.715223216@yorku.ca> rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner) writes:
>>A friend's Tiawanese-clone 386-33 motherboard makes very distinct and
>>varied buzzes whenever the system is not idle.  The sounds are
>>unrelated to disk activity, and they seem to be louder on warm days.
>>They sound something like very quiet hard disk noises (but that is not
>>what they are -- I've checked very carefully).  The sounds appear to be
>>coming from the mainboard itself, and seem to be related to bus activity.
>>
>>I've never heard anything like this before.  Has anyone else?
>>-- 
>
>It's probably the power supply.

This also happens on my machine, a 486-25.  The sound changes pitch when
I access menus in WP5.1.  It also happens when using the serial port.
From: dobbins@lan.ccit.arizona.edu (Gary Dobbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Anyone have CompuAdd chipset info?
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:09:46 GMT
Distribution: usa,world
Organization: University of Arizona

I have a CompuAdd 320, and upgraded the BIOS.  The original BIOS had options 
to set things like 8/16-bit bus wait states, etc.  The new BIOS doesn't have 
these options.

Does anyone have info on programming this chipset?


        Gary L. Dobbins  *  University of Arizona  *  (602)621-6715
             dobbins@arizona.edu  *  dobbins@arizvms (bitnet)
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