HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elien@hsc.usc.edu (Dim Soon E. Lien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Religious conflict in India
Date: 7 Jan 1993 07:39:02 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan5.193548.15566@bnr.ca> uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:
>It seem there are a few "emotionally" distrubed people posting
>news items in SCI. I would like to tell them to "shove off" but
>the hate and anger in their souls needs to be worked out. Perhaps
>some psychologist may suggest a less "visible" method. I believe
>it hurts the entire SouthAsian community to see this junk. Please
>read soc.culture.china and see how polite the users are to each other.	
>J.Singh
>

Mr. UI Pooper is verry correct.  You have very big argument on Indian net that
we not have on Chinese net.  Laboratory associate from India always reading
Indian net and speak to us on all the argument here.  In Chinese net
student are more respectful of each other and do not say the angry thing
that Indian student say to each other and to student from Pakistan and
Bangladesh.

On Chinese net we never see article like one which come from Deb Chatterjee,
Samit Banerjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, Ed Crick, Deepak Bose, and Vijay Fafat.
Mr. Banerjee and Mr. Fafat do very embarassing thing.  They bring shame
to University of Southern California.  I am also student at University of
Southern California.  I am ashmed when they insult other student.  It makes
University of Southern California look very bad to student at other 
university.  But I think I know why these people always sad bad word to
each other.  I think it is the religion in India that teach people to
be angry to one other.

Indian have hindu and muslim who always fight and kill one other.  No find
peace.  Cannot have peace in hindu and muslim if they must always fight one
other.  In China we have Buddhism teach us to be peaceful and respect one
other.  We not use so much angry word against other Chinese.  Buddhism teach
not to insult ancestors of one other.  On Indian net students always insult
parents of one other.  Indian student not have respect for old people that
Chinese student have.

Buddha must leave India because he teach respect and peace.  Indian not
listen to teaching and make Buddha leave.  If you not want peace you fight
forever on net and in India.  Indian student should learn Buddhism.  Make
them fight less and work more in laboratory.

Dim Soon E. Lien

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: What I think about Qi Gong and Yan Xin
Keywords: Qi Gong Yan Xin
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:14:11 GMT

In article <C0Ft9F.4nJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>In article <1ids79INNjp7@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> xh@uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu (Xiao Ping Hu) writes:
>>Hi, Qi Gong Again. I have several friends who have been practicing
>>Master Yan Xin's Bi Gu (eating nothing). I myself am interested in learing
>>this art so that I do not worry about making a living. Tell you something,
>>after coming to US, I myself rarely enjoyed a meal though half of my
>>day time is related to eating. Well I'll tell you later how master Yan's
>>method works for me.
>>
>>Somebody does have a big mouth,but this does not mean everything 
>>he talks is fake. Master Yan does enjoy talking -- If I have so many
>>disciples, I am happy to talk all the way too. Sure enough, I'll
>>follow him for a while to see if I do save money from fasting.
>>
>>Xiaoping
>
>Well, I wish you successful. Mr. Yan Xin and Qi Gong masters
>should go to Somalia where Bi Gu is desperately needed. I am
>sure the United Nation would give them medal of highest honor,
>perhaps Nobel Peace Prize :-). It would also shock Uncle Sam's
>troops and makes China the greatest nation in the world :-).
>
>But not here, man. Here you smash the rice bowl of US farmers :-).
 
Put the Bi Gu into a diet plan, you will be a millionare in no time. 

Tingli Pan
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Negroes
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:39:00 GMT

In article <SOSC1069.93Jan3082133@highway.yorku.ca>, sosc1069@highway.yorku.ca (Ming He) writes:
|> ### On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:45:15 GMT, ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen) said:
|> 
|> ylq% In article <1992Dec27.171529.24739@fuug.fi>, an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> [...]
|> 
|> ylq% Wow !!!
|> ylq% You must have a huge, huge flat noses with gigantic round nostrils.
|> 
|> 
|> 	How do you know that?
|> 
|> 	/ming
|> --
|> Ming He                                   sosc1069@reader.yorku.ca
|> From Beijing, China.  Like to watch to the transference of data.

read his original post. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk)
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:19:21 GMT

Dear netters,

this is a followup to an abitrary response in the tiny debate about Taiwanese
arms sales.

Reading your valued opinions about this matter, reveals that many Taiwanese
that responded don't seem to mind that ``farmer boys in Taiwan would kill
farmer boys in China'' would their respective governments tell them to do so...

Anyway, my country, the Netherlands, is often asked by the Taiwanese government
to sell them submarines. We have been involved in a sale 10 years ago, leading
to severe diplomatic problems with the Mainland. At this moment, nobody likes
to burn his/her fingers again and any new deals are off. 
This is why I got interested in the matter in the first place. 

About my conspiracy/paranoid ideas about another Sino-Japanese war. My point
is, and it is very clear I believe, that Japanese economic supremacy in the
Pacific will decrease in favour of Mainland China. The question is: will Japan
ignore this or will they take action to prevent it.

My answer is that it is conceivable that they will take ``necessary steps''.
My next question is: will these steps be military or otherwise. Well, I would
not be suprised in the least, if they would use military force again, as they
have done so many times in the past.

So, they will need some proper reason for starting a war. They can't just say
to the UN: well, we're going to rob China blind again, like we did the last
two times. They will have to have a real excuse...

Yours sincerely,

Martijn

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hongbin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Hongbin Isaac Liu)
Subject: Re: CCTV
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:27:43 GMT

In article <C0q9up.I4r@acsu.buffalo.edu> zshi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhixin Shi) writes:
>Hi, there,
>
>Could you tell me some more about that XiaoErDuo? Where I can buy one and
>how to use it to get CCTV?
>
>Thanks.

I'd like to know more about it too. Any reply will be appreciate....

From: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Ignatius Ding)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:04:14 GMT
Subject: Campaign on Behalf of Ren Wanding and his Family
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
Subject: UN's identity crisis
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:31:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.022822.21912@Princeton.EDU> afriend@dew.Princeton.EDU (A. Friend) writes:
> [deleted]
>
>Later, when a call-in viewer was asked if she said U.N or U.S., she replied
>"Everybody knows U.N. is just U.S."
>

I was sending postcards to friends when I visited UN last year. In the little
post office there were several slots for people to drop off their letters.
I noticed that the slot for mail to USA was listed as "domestic". Was this
an inadvertent mistake or an honest confession to the truth?

Anyone from @UN?

FY
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:44:08 GMT

In article 28917@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
>
>	I find it interesting that most Chinese I question about Jesus'
>"miracles" consider them to be a bunch of horseshit, but almost all of 

Is there any connection between "miracles" and qi-gong?  Why are you asking
this non-related question?  There are plenty of performance of qi-gong on
book, TV, shows, circus, etc.  Your "miracles" is something in the religion
area.  Well there are plenty of "shows" on that too...

>these people believe that qi gong is very real (though there are some 
>charlatans). If you are in this group, I have a couple of questions for
>you:
>
>	(1) Can non-Chinese master qi gong?
>
Why not?  From a scientfic point of view, any human body consists of similar
bio system.  But qi-gong needs lots of practice to master and practice takes
time.  Just like any other sports or performing arts.  It is NO miracle though
there may be some natural talents takes less time than other to master the art.

>	(2) If your answer to (1) is "yes", then do non-Chinese have to learn
>		qi gong from a (Chinese) master, or can one learn/discover it
>		on one's own?
>
Can anyone learn to play the piano by himself?  Sure!  Can he perform in Carnegie
Hall, No!  Should his teacher be Chinese or non-Chinese?  It doesn't matter as long
as that teacher is a good teacher.  But most importantly, LOTS of pratice!  Remember,
1% inspiration and 99% perspiration!

>	Just for the record, I don't believe in either the miracles or in
>qi gong. But I do believe in UFOs.
>
>Mark

Too bad you are mixing up two complete different things.  There is no doubt that
someone maybe more talented or amazing than others in performing arts, sports, study,
engineering etc.  It certainly is not a miracle if you can accomplish the same level.
UFO on the other hand is highly possible.  Too bad it may take a few centuries for
them to come to us...:-)  This fact itself to me is already a miracle!

dw.
From: jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: looking for mr. lian li
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:29:33 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

Hi, Mr. Lian Li.  After you read this, please contact me.
From: weig@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Mr Li Gu
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:53:56 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology


My friend Mr Li Gu last known studying EE at the Wisconsin Uni in 1989.
Mr Li Gu or anyone knows him, upon seeing this post, please e-mail.
Thanks. Zhou Tao


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula)
Subject:  China, new and improved (like laundry detergents?)
Organization: Graduate School of Oceanography
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:30:21 GMT

cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
|> There are more to come, according to People's Daily. It said something like
|> Frence will be ultimate loser.
If China goes too far, France will lose its $2 billion/year trade deficit with 
China. What a disaster, France would have to manage an even more positive
trade balance! But, on a more serious note, I believe  that by limiting trade
both countries will lose. Nobody should be happy about that.

huang@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
|> 	I am not upset about Taiwan's buying, but I am too upset about 
|> France's selling.
Right, why should you be angry at your Taiwanese brothers? Let's blame
it on those nasty that-would-sell-women-and-children-just-to-make-a-buck
French people. But may I remind you that it is Taiwan that wanted to buy 
the Mirages and F16's. Could it be that people in Taiwan are afraid of your 
brotherly love (as shown in recent elections)?

|> 	French do. Their selling is purely business issue, 
|> just for money. How "independently" do they!!!
When China sells weaponry to Irak, what is it for? (And in my
opinion Irak is a lot worse than Taiwan... Actually there is
no comparison, I apologize to Taiwanese readers.)
 
|> So far, China dare not really do anything against US, as well as Japan 
|> (Chinese fellows may recall Guang1 Hua2 Liao2 event, in which even Deng
|> had lost his face). I hope and believe China can have the power to respond 
|> them in 20 years in the way she treated France a couple of days ago. 
That's interesting! China as a would-be bully, I am sure that the rest of
the world will appreciate. Thank you for clarifying that point! 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaoyu@grumpy.SSC.GOV (Xiaoyu Li)
Subject: Re: Need Words of the Song--"I Love You, China"
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:39:08 GMT

In article <103562@netnews.upenn.edu>, peng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kaping Peng) writes:
> 
> Could anybody tell me the words of the song "I Love You, China"? I
> have no the song at hand but I can remember the music.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kaping

You can ftp the song from "dale.ssc.gov" (under
directory /pub/misc/audio) and play it on either
SUN, NeXT, SGI workstations, or Macs. It would
be pretty easy to figure out the word by listening
to it.

-- 
Xiaoyu Li
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From: joseph@stein.u.washington.edu (Joseph Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Looking for Chinese Herb Medicine doctor in Bay Area
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

One of my friend is looking for a good Chinese Herb Medicine doctor
in Bay Area.  Her son has a kidney problem.

Please send your recommendation to
  joseph@bioeng.washington.edu.

Thank you.

Joseph
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Keywords: Terrible conclusion
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:31:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

In article <106560@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>In article <93Jan8.155931est.56@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
>>In article <lkrh9aINNiuj@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>>>(deleted)
>>I think the real problem is that all people went crazy during CR, and
>
>This is ridiculous. First of all, the most of farmers were basically
>not involved in the crazy, that is why the fighters could be still fed
>for fighting. Secondly, even in cities and schools, fighters are still
>minority. They were encouraged by Mao to fight and no one could stop
>them. The last but not the least, even if what you think were true,
>WHO MADE THEM CRAZY?
>
>>everyone shares the blames,
>
>No way. I have no interest to share the crime of Mao and fighters.
>Chinese people, especially Chinese intellectuals, and Chinese culture
>has their(our) own weakness, so that Mao and fighters could commit
>such crimes. 

  But how do you explain Mao's "direction": " Yao4 Wen2 Dou4, Bu2 You4
Wu3 Dou4" ( Fight with your pens, not with guns )   
  Mao never encouraged people to fight/kill each other during CR.
  That's my understanding, tell me yours if you don't think it;s right.


>
>>(deleted)
>>anyway this is all very sick, a very sick discussion.  
>
>But in some respect, it is an interesting moment to see:
>
>All fighters (D or P), united! to pour dirt water on Chinese PEOPLE.
>Though they may have different reasons: D fighters want to pour
>the valuable dirt water on CCP, don't mind whether it is on Chinese
>people altogether. P fighters think this inevitible dirt water should
>be pour on Chinese people only - Mao did not beat anyone, didn't he?
>He did not eat human flesh, did he? After all, dirt water should be
>poured on Chines people.
>
>Sigh, fighters,.... 
>-- 
  Really? seems I should join the D-fighters? no way!
  What is P fighter? doees P-Fs belongs to CCP or the people? 
                    

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>organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
>are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
>Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
From: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:54:39 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <7JAN199312521769@utkvx2.utk.edu> xic@utkvx2.utk.edu writes:
>
>I am wondering if this picture came from some Chinese magazine?
>The editor is shameful.  Low taste.

Well, there is no need to comment on the picture anymore. I got
this picture from a university newspaper.  It is called 
"valentine day".   Surprise ? Maybe or maybe not.  Common on, do
not called it low taste.  You got to enlighten yourself a
little.  Just relax and enjoy.  "valentine day" is translated to
"lover's day" in Chinese.  It is a nice holiday not just for the
young, not married lovers, but also for the young couples.

I do not get the alt.binaries.pictures group.  That is why I
posted into this net for fun.

Yaoen
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: CHINESE AND HUGHES AIRCRAFT
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:42:48 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Originator: raymond@jupiter

engineers this week will begin a joint investigation into the loss
of Australia's Oputs B2 telecommunication satellite. The new design
Model 601 satellite failed to send or respond to normal post-launch
signals after being placed in orbit by a Chinese Long March 2E
booster late last month.

(Unauthorized excerpt from Aviation Week & Space Technology, Jan. 4, 1993)
______________________________________________________________________
-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Happy New Year (Celebration!  Read me!)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:02:34 GMT

I realize that this is probably not as appropriate here as in another
newsgroup, but I'm sure there will be some interest.  If you have any
questions, or if you plan to attend, please send me email and tell me
what location you will be going to.

I have been to this for the last three years and have always enjoyed it
immensely, especially the luncheon because the food is *so* good.
Wo3 de2 duzi4 hao3 fei2  :)

Most sincerely,
Larry (Q)
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Happy New Year!

Come join our Happy Celebration

We would like to invite you, your family
and friends to be our honoured guests on
Sunday, January 31, at 10:00AM to join our
annual tradition - share a special service
and fellowship luncheon.  Begin the New Year
with God's richest blessing.  Everyone is
welcome!

With greetings of peace, prosperity
and long life,
Your brothers and sisters
New Apostolic Church

Services are held in English with translations
into Mandarin and/or Cantonese and portions are
held directly in the same dialect(s).  If you
would like to attend a location with a specific
dialect in mind, please send me email and
indicate which location is currently closest to
you.

Dress code:

Men - jacket & tie
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Locations:

Hong Kong
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Chinatown, New York City, USA
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Flushing, Queens, USA
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Westbury, Long Island, USA
--------------------------
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Saint James, Long Island, USA
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From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:24:07 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <1993Jan7.191351.10512@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <C0Hu4D.CyE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neptune) writes:
>>
>>If we assume that China's "Dark Ages" began with the collapse of
>>the Ching Dynasty, then we have to wait 400 more years before
>>"rejuvination".
>Just for the sake of argument (I don't quite believe this "taking 500 year"
>
It is said that China experienced the weakness and back strong in 400
year cycle. It doesn't mean that is scientific or mathethic accurate.

In the recent Chinese history, the opium war triggered the foreign
invasion, that can be considered the starting point of downfall.
The Japanese large scale invasion of China that ended in 1945 can
be considered the bottom point. Following the unrest, the KMT failure,
a series of political struggle under CCP til the TAM, Chinese people
have waked up, partially if not completely, particularly in Taiwan.

The unification of China will be again brought Chinese people to 
glory and prosperity, if not under CCP ruling. When the average
Chinese GNP gets to US20,000, it is time that Chinese people will
play a role of leading the world. It is expected by 2000, Chinese
people under ROC will reach that point. The other side expects
the GNP will reach US1000 by 2000. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Guangxi massacre (Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi... )
Keywords: The CCP blood debts increased
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:19:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.155637.25037@oracle.us.oracle.com> fyu@fyusparc2.us.oracle.com (Francis H. Yu) writes:

>But who makes the judgement?  A committee on criticism?  Bashing is bashing.
>What concerns me more is that China-bashing (and probably Japan-bashing and
>Israel-bashing) is often associated with racism.

So what?  Does that mean that we should stop criticizing those governments?
If you automatically associate the criticism on those countries with racism,
*then* you'll get a racist response when you do criticize.

>Mikhail Gorbachev is only bashing Yeltsin.  Besides, Rusians are different,
>they are white and they are Christians.  "Soviet-bashing" does not promote
>racism.

Hmmm.  Why not?  Why didn't "Soviet-bashing" promote racism?  They were
certainly viewed, by Americans, as the "bad guys" during the Cold War.

I really don't appreciate you bringing the tenets on racism here.  What you
are doing, by advocating special treatment for the non-white governments, is
really another form of racism.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china