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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Pacifiers in honor of Lindros
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:27:29 GMT
Keywords: Gil Stein

In article <93130@netnews.upenn.edu>, dsimon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon) writes:
> Well, they did throw golf balls and batteries at Lindros and the Flyers bench.
> What really surprises me though, is that the Nordiques did not do a thing to
> stop it.  Gil Stein was quoted as saying he was ashamed for the NHL and
> Quebec, and that he'd look into it.  He did say, however, that there would
> not be a fine imposed.

Gil Stein was ashamed?  Then why didn't he get off his fat ass during the
first intermission and tell the referees and the public address announcer
that any more such interruptions would result in a two-minute delay of
game penalty against the home team?  Stein, in case he doesn't know it,
is the guy in charge and he was in attendance.

> The way I see it, Aubut got away with it unless
> he gets a public reprimand.  He's gotten away with a lot of s*** with nary
> a word of punishment.

Far be it from me to stick up for this fool, but I really can't blame
Aubut for what took place.  Unless of coure it was his idea to come up
with the pacifier-give-away.  I mean, how the hell could they not have
seen it coming?  It was as if they were given away with the sole purpose
of throwing them onto the ice.

I can't wait for December 3 when Quebec makes its first visit to the
Spectrum.  My seats are up in the last row of the building, but I'll 
have no trouble throwing something onto the ice.  Which I will do...

...a hat, in honor of Eric Lindros' hat trick against the worst run
franchise in the NHL.

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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Odds
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:02:38 GMT

>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Pittsburgh     5:1        Buffalo       30:1
>>>N.Y. Rangers   6:1        Los Angeles   50:1
>>>Chicago        7:1        Philadelphia  50:1
>>>Montreal       8:1        Winnipeg      50:1
>>>Detroit       10:1        Minnesota     50:1
>>>Boston        12:1        N.Y. Islanders75:1
>>>Vancouver     15:1        Quebec       100:1
>>>Edmonton    15:1        Toronto      200:1
>>>Washington    20:1        Hartford    1000:1
>>>New Jersey    25:1        San Jose     500,000:1
>>>St. Louis     25:1        Tampa Bay    750,000:1
>>>Calgary       30:1        Ottawa      1,000,000:1
>>>
>> 
>> Winnipeg and Quebec would be pretty good bets...   

>At the 20:1 odds, I might be tempted to play the Capitals. They came awfully
>close last year....

>                                                           Alan
> 

If they had a star capable of taking them to the next level, if Rod Langway 
was a few years younger, and if Kevin Hatcher and Mike Pivonka had a 200:1 
chance of being anything close to leaders, I MIGHT be tempted to play the 
Caps too.

Even though I haven't and don't gamble, I've "played" this team for years.
You're right, they came close last year.  And at 20:1 last year's team would 
have been a good "bet."  But don't be fooled, this year's team is not last 
year's team.

Bob Carpenter, Don Beaupre, and the ever-aging Rod Langway are not 
Chanmpionship material.  You may want to "play" the Caps, but unless Dave 
Poile makes a major move - something he has failed to do since the Langway 
deal TEN years ago - you're tossing your bucks away.

Detroit at 10:1 looks a better "play;" then again, with Brian Murray behind 
the bench, no team looks too good for the playoffs.

Warren
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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Final Caps moves
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:49:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.041535.15912@eng.umd.edu> david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu) writes:
>From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
>Subject: Final Caps moves
>Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 04:15:35 GMT

>To finish up their roster moves, the Caps sent Ken Sabourin to
>Baltimore and recalled D Bob Babcock.  Earlier this week, Yvon
>Corriveau was taken by San Jose in the waiver draft, Dmitri Khristich
>(broken foot - 4-6 wks) and Sylvain Cote (broken hand - 3-4 wks) were
>injured, and John Druce was traded with a conditional draft pick to
>Winnipeg for Pat Elynuik.

>Oh, and they beat Toronto tonight, 6-5.

>Dave Lu


In a startling move, Abe Pollin loaned Bullet-star, and Caps fan parking 
money fianced, Harvey Grant to the Capitals to "shore up the offense."  

In a move that is designed to allow DC sports fans the chance to see Grant 
play, Pollin said, "I figure, what the heck, nobody comes to Bullets games 
anyway, someone ought to be able to use him, and with the dibilitating loss 
of Yvon Corriveu, I thought Harv could plug a few holes."

Warren
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From: fisci@stekt.oulu.fi (Sami Keski-Filppula)
Subject: Re: NHL RESULTS FOR 11 OCTOBER 1992
Organization: University of Oulu, Dept. of EE, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:44:53 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mjmelvil@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (mark)
Subject: Re: Ticket prices (NHL matches)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:54:38 GMT

In article <asalo.1@katk.Helsinki.FI>, asalo@katk.Helsinki.FI (SALO ANTTI E) writes:
> Hi!
> I'd like to know how expensive are the tickets to NHL matches. How much are 
> the cheapest, how much the most expensive. Just the "normal" games, not ply-
> offs.
> 
> Please reply by email to asalo@katk.helsinki.fi
> 
> thanks!

Whoever responds to this, please post it on the net, i'm sure enquiring minds
want to know

Mark
mjmelville@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo class of 94
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Hawks Notes
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:11:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw5ABv.9Bw
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb) writes:


>Center Mike Hudson signed a 3-year, $1.2 million contract yesterday.


Is Mike Hudson really worth $1.2 million in today's market?  YIKES!  


=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- 

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]  
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Wherabouts of Dimitri Khristich
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:32:56 GMT

In article <51330@seismo.CSS.GOV> cooper@seismo.CSS.GOV (Dale Cooper) writes:
>
>He is one of five key players out of the Capital's lineup.  He shares the
>pressbox with Michal Pivonka (groin pull), Randy Burridge (knee (2)),
>Sylvain Cote (fractured hand), and just lately Jason Woolley (fractured
>wrist).
>
>Not that this entirely explains the Caps boneheaded play of late, but 
>considering that three of the Capitals key scorers are upstairs eating
>pop corn instead of putting pucks in the net surely doesn't help the team
>any.
>

How are Harvey Grant's skating lessons coming along, and when is he
expected to contribute and make up for the loss of Ciccarelli's
offensive production? -).  

Gerald

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From: (Gerry Gryschuk)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:32:14 GMT

From article <arbogastw.29.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, by arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast):
> Last year, the caps used on ice ads for two games because the NHL picked a 
> team based in Canada and a team based in the US to see what the reaction 
> from players and fans would be.  At least that's what I was told when 
> someone from the Caps office responded to a rather terse note I sent the 
> team (and that was when I felt quite a bit better about the team).
> 
> I think on-ice ads stink.  The game is entertainment.  We pay our money to 
> see the games, park our cars, eat food, buy merchandise.  Adds on score 
> boards, game boards, cups, hats whatever is fine with me, but on the ice?
> 
> Watching Mario Lemieux glide over the FOODLAND ad is silly.  Before you know 
> it they'll be passing the puck across the Bepto Bismol blue line and feeding 
> your favorite player in front of the Meow MIx net.  The players themselves 
> will wear ads instead of team logos (which, admittedly, may be an 
> improvement to that new Pen).
> 
> I don't think its being old fashioned.  The line between integrity and 
> schlock may be thin.  But you have to draw it somewhere, and unfortunately, 
> the NHL has crossed it.

Unfortunately I can't make an informed opinion on this since I haven't seen
what it looks like yet. However I would just like to point something out.

I was watching CBC's tribute to the '72 Super-Series and something was
bugging me about the clips they were showing of the action. It started with
clips of the Montreal Forum, at first I thought they were using international
sized ice-surface but this went against my recollections of the event. It was
only after they went to clips of the games in Toronto that I realized that
it was because there were no ads on the boards. Therefore at least in my case
the ads on the boards have become just something that is there, I don't pay
any attention to them and they don't bother my enjoyment of the game. In fact
I would say they have become useless as a means of advertising precisely for
this reason.

It seems to me that this will happen for on-ice ads as well. Once we have seen
them enough they will become something our minds will simply ignore. Does it
bother you when someone carries the puck through the face-off dots? If these
adds blockout the visibility of the puck they will become something to worry
about.

> 
> Warren
--
Gerald Gryschuk            Saskatoon,Saskatchewan = a place with 9 months
gerry@sask.usask.ca           of hockey and 3 months of poor skating.
Go Habs!!!
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From: pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin)
Subject: Re: Ottawa service
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:22:39 GMT

clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) wrote:
> Questions for a Senators fan:
> 
>) What is the level of French language customer service offered by the
>   Senators? 
> 
>) Are the arena announcements unilingual or bilingual?
> 
>) How was "O Canada" sung?

I can't answer the first question but I can tell you the announcements
are bilingual and that the bilingual version of 'O Canada' is sung.  In
addition, I noticed that some of the adverts on the boards are in French
(Pages Jaune, Bell Mobilite).  The tickets are in the two languages as
well.  Given the large francophone population on both sides of 
the river, this is only reasonable.

These observations are based on the three exhibition games I attended
and last night's game on CBC (Which by the way, caused a big identity
crisis for us 'traditional' Habs fans...who do we cheer for?  I was
glad Ottawa won though, we don't want those Tampa guys to make us 
look too bad!)

Go Senators, go Habs! :-)
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From: danc@loon.geog.ubc.ca (Dan Ciarniello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Rules Change?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:04:03 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: loon.geog.ubc.ca

In article <1992Oct16.041056.8557@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct16.020321.9870@hubcap.clemson.edu> jwodzia@dino.eng.clemson.edu () writes:
|> >
|> >I noticed in USA Today the other day that the suspensions being served(to be 
|> >served) Bernie Nicholos and Mike Keane are according to the "New" Rules.
|> >What are these new rules? If I remeber they used to be for a number of games, 
|> >i.e. a 5 game suspension. What changed here or is there something I'm missing
|> >John
|> 
|> John,
|>    The rule change is that a player may be suspended for x number of
|> days, with non-playing games counting. In other words, if a player is
|> suspended for 7 days, he may only miss 3 games, but 7 days worth of pay.
|> NHL president Gil Stein thinks this will act as a strong deterent. I
|> have heard stories of a player recieving a suspension and his teamates
|> chipping in to make up for the lost money, so I have to wonder if it
|> will works as well as he hopes.
|>         tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
|>              Tim Connors
|> 

I read in this mornings paper (Globe and Mail) that, according to Pat Quinn,
the league can audit a team's payroll records.  If a team is caught 
disregarding the new rule, they can be fined $500,000 plus the player's
fine.  One would think that this is sufficient deterent.
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From: giant@next08wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor)
Subject: Re: Flyers fans whine at Cap Centre!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.065634.27384@Princeton.EDU>  
fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.173748.18317@wam.umd.edu>  
giant@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor) writes:
> >
> >Flyers fans that come to the Cap Centre are whiners,
> >cry babies, you name it.  I was sitting in  208
> >when some bald headed man, wearing a Lindros
> >jersey (do all Flyers fans ride off Lindros already?),
> >started Flyers chants.  That's cool, I have no problem
> >with that.  But what pisses me off is that
> >he and his drunk buddies get pissed off when the Caps
> >fans yell at him and start chants of their own.  What
> >does he expect?  Coming in to a home team's building and
> >not expect to get yelled at?  So, Mr. Bald Whiner goes
> >to the security and cries to them, and thus has the
> >bodyguard he so dearly wanted.  All the Flyers fans
> >tried to pick fights, too.  It is real fun to have
> >to sit with a bunch of event staff protecting some
> >whining out of town fan who would have got his ass kicked 
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Listen.  If you say he was going to get his ass kicked, then only a fool
> wouldn't have gotten help.  Why don't *you* quit being a baby and go  
slander
> fans of other teams somewhere else? 

The reason he would have gotten his ass kicked was because he 
continued to yap even after the security got there.  He
was being a bigger asshole cause he knew he could get
away with it while the security was there.  And if
an opposing teams fans come to your building, wouldn't
you yell at them too?  I thought so...


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From: v124p7kk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Darryl S Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Benoit Hogue
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   	Anyone know the status of Benoit Hogue??  Is he injured, holding out,
or just having a slow start??  I have him on my fantasy team and haven't seen
any points from him....  Thanx for the help...

Darryl Brooks
U at Buffalo
From: dmolsen@athena.mit.edu (D. Matthew Olsen)
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:31:12 GMT

In article <schmata.719022718@camelot>, schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein) writes:
|> In <1992Oct13.142034.20308@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Oct13.164343.18197@pixel.kodak.com> clare@bissun.kodak.com (Bill Clare) writes:
|> 
|> >>Hartford was known as "New England" in the WHA.  I'll bet the reason for the
|> >>name change upon entry to the NHL was Boston taking issue with it, but I
|> >>don't actually know this to be true.
|> 
|> >I don't think the New England Whalers played in Hartford during the WHA 
|> >days ... anyone remember for certain?
|> 
|> Didn't they shuttle back and forth between Hartford and Springfield, Mass?
|> 
|> tv's wisecracking peter

The New England Whalers did play in Hartford when the Hartford Civic Center opened
in 1977(?).  However, soon after, the roof caved in 2 hours after a Hartford Hawks
NCAA game (which would have killed thousands of people had it happened earlier)
and they were forced to play in Springfield Mass. during their first X games as
an NHL franchise.

-- 
Matthew Olsen (Go Whalers!!!)
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Daryl Sutter Watch
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:09:45 GMT

Well, it is probably time to start predicting how many games  
Daryl Sutter will last as coach of the Hawks...

...I guess I'll predict 27 games before Iron Mike returns.

Gerald
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Subject: Re: ESPN Hockey
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:07:55 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1597@spuds.solbourne.COM>, larry@spuds.solbourne.COM (Larry Keryc) writes:

> : Some changes in ESPN's 1992-93 coverage include 10-minute pre-games
> : and fewer but longer sponsor breaks - four(4) 70-second stoppages per
> : period instead of seven(7) 30-second spots.
> 
> Mark, 
> 
> I don't believe this is ESPN specific.  On one of the Ranger pre-season
> broadcasts, the MSG guys said this was a new league wide rule.  In fact,
> I noticed the commercials being longer but really didn't pay attention
> to how many there were.
> 
> Anyone know the reasoning for the change and who requested it?

Well, 7 x 40 seconds = 280 seconds of advertising time. 7 x 30 seconds = 210
seconds of advertising. I imagine the networks asked for the change because
they get 70 seconds more commercial time to sell, which means more money for
them....

								Alan

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From: dlamber@andy.bgsu.edu (Don Lambert)
Subject: Re: Right handers playing left handed hockey
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: BGSU University Computer Services
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:50:35 GMT

When I started playing hokey I played right handed shooting right handed. I
did this for 2 years. Then I played goalie for 2 years and when I came back
out I perfered right handed shooting left. For the last 12 years I've shoot
left handed. 

To me it seems easier to slid your blocker up the shaft of the stick than
to turn the stick around (remember the upper shaft of the stick must pass
cleanly under you arm pit). If you lose control of the puck it's easier to
get back in postion. You just release with your glove and slid you blocker
back down. No fumbling with a stick out of position.


Don Lambert
University Computer Services
Bowling Green State University
        	       	       	       	       	       	
INTERNET : dlamber@andy.bgsu.edu
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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Maple Leaf Gardens
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:39:38 GMT

In article <92Oct09.164848.17229@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>
>The Leafs sell out? Is this some kind of sick joke?
>I am quite serious. Nothing against the Leafs especially,
>but they've been so awful for so long that it's hard to believe
>that seats would be worth anything.

According to official stats, they sold out every game for over forty years
until some time in the mid 80's when the string was broken (or admitted to
be broken, depending on your point of view).  They still sell out 
consistently.

If there were a good team in town (eg the Oilers in the glory days), you'd
find golds getting scalped for $100 and up, even in the worst days of the
Leafs.

-- 
Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   	-- The Simpsons

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From: pellizzari@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: tony hrkac
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:42:17 GMT

does anyone know where tony hrkac is????
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Straka 1st Card for sale
From: Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:35:00 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

If anyone knows about this 1st round draft pick for the Pens, I have a
small quantity of his 1st rookie card, only card out there. It is made by
Upper Deck and was distributed in a 100 World set to Czechlosavokia (some
spelling like that). The Cards have writing in Czech and English and
only 700 cases were made of this card. If you are interested in getting a
rare 1st card of possibly the next Jagr. Mail me. The price is $15 per
card. Also a few Lindros 1st NHL game programs still available for $12
which includes P/H in the U.S......Thank you, Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Re: New uniforms and ... What's the deal on that Pens Logo?
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:41:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.214647.28978@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
> arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
> 
> I didn't get a good look at the new Leafs and Whalers outfits.

I saw the St. John's Leafs home uniforms last night. They look really great.
It's like the old style uniform but with the new style logo. A miniature of
the old style logo (i.e. with many more points on the maple leaf) is on the
shoulders. The best change is that they have gotten rid of those blue 
shoulders.

Keith Mews
From: tarkkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lauri Tarkkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL Tie Breakers
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:58:59 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1b0vk5INNpet@cs.tut.fi> ma71780@cs.tut.fi (Asumaa Mika Tapani) writes:

>What kind of tie breaker system does NHL use in case of
>two or more teams having same amount of points?


>-- 
>*******************************************************************************
>Mika Asumaa                                     Aleksanterinkatu 24 C 20
>Tel. + 358 31 134715                            SF-33100 TAMPERE
>ma71780@cs.tut.fi                               Finland, Europe

If they have not changed it recently (and I remember them correctly) 
they are: 

1. Number of wins
2. Goal difference
3. goals scored

- Lauri Tarkkonen
From: dk41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Dan Kodesh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Bufallo goalies
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:51:15 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   What's the goalie situation in Buffalo?

   I know they sent down Malarchuk, which leaves Hasek, Draper, and Puppa.
  Does anyone know who's No. 1, 2 and three? OR who's gotten playing
time and who hasn't?

  ------   Go Caps!!!!!