HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike@tome.media.mit.edu
Subject: Re: FAQs...where to find them
Keywords: Answering a  Bunch of Questions
Reply-To: mike@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:59:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.224100.4755@csus.edu> hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu (Jack  
&) writes:
> I saw mention, in my rn files, about someone who was interested in knowing
> whether a NeXT cube could be upgraded to a turbo board, and the reply I
> saved was something like "ah, another user that doesn't read the FAQs."

Well, yes as I have read there are 33 Mhz upgrades available

> Well, I've been looking around for them for an hour or so now, and have
> not found them. Any salutations would be appreciated.

Okay, HELLO THERE JACK!!!

> Also, does anyone still have information on the folks who modify 030
> boards for use in a cube? Or, should I say, does anyone know more
> about the outfit, what they do, and how well it works?

I am currently working on a review of this configuration.  The outfit
is called Spherical Solutions, and due to no lack of net publicity
I am going to just say they are in Mill Valley, California USA.

Here is part of a FAQ.tidbits (from May '92) and hope it helps.

Subject: M2. Can I put both an 030 and an 040 system board in a single NeXT  
cube?

[Note that we have no first hand experience with this problem, we
have compiled what we consider to be an accurate report.  We acknowledge
conflicting reports where appropriate.]

In general Mach may be configured as a multiprocessor operating system;
however, the NeXT kernel is only configured to deal with one processor.
This configuration can not be changed without access to the kernel
sources.  [hopefully NeXT will offer a multiprocessor version of the NeXT
operating system at some future date]

Some have asked about the possibility of installing the 030 board
for use as a printserver or other CPU-intensive task server.  In this
hypothetical setup, each CPU would run its own copy of the operating
system (essentially two different computers sharing the same cube).

This might be workable except for the fact that even if the NBIC
(NextBus Interface Chip) chip is removed, the CPU board probes the 
bus for slot ID [**a conflicting report comes from Richard Dib who
heard that someone ran a cube with the CPU in another slot].

You could do hardware modification to the 030 board which would
isolate it enough to use only the cube as a power supply, however
you can not run two monochrome monitor heads off the cube power supply.
In this case you would probably want to first boot the 030 with a
display head, set the boot prom to boot off ttya, and attach an
ascii terminal to that serial port.

> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Jack Hodges

Your welcome.

Todd Nathan
CSNAnnounce Moderator

PS.  If the FAQ is inaccurate it is only due to its age.  It is in
	no way a reflection of Nathan Janette's work.  He has done
	very hard and quality work to keep the FAQs up to date.
From: cjn@vaal.cpr.upenn.edu (Christopher Nagel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: "localhost" in File Viewer
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:17:13 GMT

Hi all,
When I bring my 1.2 gig disk home to my cube, I am still looking at a  
NeXTstation as the root directory icon in the file viewer window.  Is there a  
cube picture available for this space?  Should it change automagically?  The  
InfoPanel shows correct sysInfo...

Chris
email: cjn@vaal.cpr.upenn.edu
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From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Subject: memory management
Organization: Johns Hopkins University - Homewood Academic Computing
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:24:11 GMT


This is perhaps a rather dumb question. I'm used to the Mac environment,
where due to instability I was wont to quit and application when I 
wasn't going to use it for a few hours. Now I use a NSTurbo with 
about four times the memory and totally different os as regards 
memory management and everything else - but out of habit
I still quit apps so that they won't be 'running" in the memory
somewhere, although I have memory to spare and of course the disk
swapping works much better than Mac vm ever worked. 

Is there a good reason to leave unused apps open? Aside from speed
in getting back to them? I know that if one opened and closed apps
on the Mac too much it played some strange tricks. But leaving them open 
also brought them all crashing down sometimes. 

Is there an app like the Mac info panel for the Next that lets us
see memory usage? A unix shell command that's interpretable by 
non-unix users?

Thanks
rkd


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From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  NT: please define vapor.
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:52:26 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

>In article <jbone.716138069@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>
>That about sums up vapor as far as I'm concerned.  This product,
>which has no end users at all, has somehow created what basically
>amounts to market hysteria.  Sanity check!  As of today, 9/10/92,
>NT has 0, that's *0* end users.  I'd call that vapor.
>
>Standard dissing, standard disclaimers. ;)

    NT isn't vapor, it's silly to argue that it is.  It isn't going to be
    much better then 3.1 though from the users standpoint.


					    -Matt

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From: michaud@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (duahcim)
Subject: Re: Kanji
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:53:59 GMT

  NeXT Lotus IMPROV  

    __FOR SALE__

The package is still in its original seal and attached along
side of the box is the warranty registration card for future
upgrades.  I am accepting any reasonable offers.  IMPROV
must be sold ASAP so I am likely to go with an offer within
the immediate future (1 week from 9-10-92).


Tom Michaud ---- michaud@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Dept. of Computer Science, Arizona State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone)
Subject: Re: NT: please define vapor.
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:15:51 GMT

dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>
>>   (...in response to my assertion that NT has no end-users and no
>>   shipping applications, therefore it's vapor...)
>
>    NT isn't vapor, it's silly to argue that it is.  It isn't going to be
>    much better then 3.1 though from the users standpoint.
>

Hello?  Anybody in there?  I didn't say it didn't exist at all, I
said that it was, from a market standpoint, vapor --- nobody's
running their day-to-day business with it, the thing isn't even
shipping yet (the developer's version doesn't count, again, it's
just a step on the road from concept to *product*.)

I don't think that argument is refutable --- it's merely one
definition.  If you think product == something that's announced,
or exists in a limited form, or exists but is unreleased, or
is prototyped, try sending a PO for a volume order for NT to
Microsoft, and ask for a guaranteed ship date.

If anybody thinks this isn't a *very* important point, consider:
the press made similar hoo-ha about OS/2 a couple of years back,
and it failed spectacularly to make any significant impact in the
market whatsoever.  Dose of reality time --- can it be that the
PC industry is so starved for something real in the OS area, yet
so UNIXphobic, that they're willing to believe anything at this
point?


Headlines:  "Microsoft *creates* market reality.  Film at 11."


Std. disclaimers.


jb




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        NT...  Just say N0T.   Skate UN*X!   Standard disclaimer. 
------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --
                                                                       --
From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: The "receipt" from NeXTmail
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:38:17 GMT
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

As I recall, under 2.1 the NeXTmailer just looks for "NeXTmail 1.63RR"
somewhere in the header and decides upon the RR (return receipt) that it has
to return an acknowledge.

I have seen "Return-Receipt-To: name@address" also. That seems a logical
extension to the mail protocol. Is NeXTmail under 3.0 doing this, or doing the
old thing (backward compatibel) or doing both? Looks handy to have that
working for other mailprogramns too.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rsteiger@denver.cba.du.edu
Subject: Re: Not just a dumb test...
Keywords: passing the test
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 22:43:17 GMT

> hello.

> we received your message way out in Denver Colorado, but the system is  
fairly new so I'm not sure if you're going to get this reply.

> let me know
> Todd    rsteiger@denver.cba.du.edu

----------------------------------



In article <1992Aug30.103530.522@talus.mipt.su> ed@talus.mipt.su writes:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> 	as I said this is not just a dumb test. I am posting from Moscow  
and  
> we're not even sure the post will ever make it out of the machine. If  
anybody  
> see this, we would love to read from you as we deal with extraordinary  
things  
> on the NeXT in quite a different way you do in the US or Europe.
> 
> Please drop us a line, 
> 
> Erik
> -- 
> 	 
> I am two fools, I know,
> For loving, and for saying so
> In whining Poetry.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cdelay@inferno.uoregon.edu (Christian De Lay)
Subject: Amiga graphics => NeXT format?
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23:37:58 GMT

Does anyone know of a way to convert amiga "ILBM" graphics into a format that  
the NeXT will read?  Is there some sort of utility to do this?

--
cdelay@inferno.uoregon.edu
NeXTmail gladly accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Dr. T.L. Marchioro II)
Subject: Re: NeXT b&w laser printer
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:20:38 GMT

In <BuJqE6.EHJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:

>gsteen@student.business.uwo.ca (Garnet Steen) writes:

>>     I have a NeXT station and need to buy a laser printer for it.  I 
[[[[[Trimmed for brevity]]]]]]
>>Suggestions?

>Unless you go with one of the 'mini' laser printers (HP IIIP, etc.),
>you are going to have to look hard to find a cheaper laser printer
>than the NeXT Laser Printer.  
>If you have a IIIP with PostScript card, it shouldn't be too hard to
>make it work- but you will have so much less troubles if you get the
>NeXT Laser Printer, and it will be a lot faster than most any other
>solution. (esp. for that price)

I'd have to second that.  Not only is the price very good for the NeXT LW
but at 400 dpi and pretty good speed it's also superior in quality to 
virtually anything else you'd look at.  Maybe high DPI is not important to
you now, but what about down the line?  Is it worth it to save a few $ now
when maybe in a couple of years you own something which is inadequate for
your needs?  

the one disadvantage to the NeXT printer, obviously, is that it's a "dumb"
printer which has to be used off a NeXT,  but since you already have the 
NeXT. . . . . 

tom


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From: lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu (John B. Lockhart)
Subject: Re: Upgrade 3.0 arrives, ordered 28-Mar-92
Organization: Computer Engineering Group, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0250
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:36:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.170331.1261@proforma.com> jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) writes:
>For those who are keeping track:  I ordered the NeXT 3.0/CD-ROM bundle on  
>28-Mar-92, and received the drive within a few weeks.  On Friday, 11-Sep-92,  
>Fedex made the first attempt to deliver the 3.0 Upgrade box.  (It was not  
>labelled "MS-DOS 5.0")

For those who are keeping track, I ordered the NeXT 3.0/CD-ROM bundle on
06-Jun-92, and have since received:

1.  A NeXT SCSI I <--> II Cable.

...you'll probably find my "system for sale" ad on comp.sys.next.marketplace
within a week or so.

--John


-- 
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From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Dan Shelton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Transparencies in  400 dpi NeXT Laser Printer?
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:34:13 GMT
Reply-To: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Dan Shelton)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Sep10.233513.15572@menudo.uh.edu> rao@tree.egr.uh.edu  
(Jagannatha  Rao) writes:
> 
> 
> I seem to remember reading somewhere that we can easily print  
transparencies in  
> the NeXT laser printer. Is this correct? IF so, does NeXT mention this  
anywhere  
> in their documentation? I could'nt find any reference. 
> 
> --
> Jagannatha Rao				E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu
> Department of Mechanical Engineering    Tel   :(713) 743-4535
> University of Houston                   Fax   :(713) 743-4503

You can print transparencies on the NeXT printer by using the manual feed  
on top of the paper tray and using the manual feed option when you print.   
You must make SURE that you are using thick transparencies, like ones for  
copiers or laser printers - best results with the ones for laser printers.   
If you use the thin transparenices then you can spend time trying to get  
the plastic off the drum.

Dan (dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu)
From: nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu (Nicholas Weaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mail.app
Date: 5 Sep 1992 17:04:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: plague-ether.berkeley.edu


	TO keep Mail.app from sucking in mail, simply do one of the
following, either not run it on startup, or go to the preferences and make
"NEw Mail Retrieval" set to manual.  Then, while in Mail.app, you can press
command-n to suck in new mail from after the program was started.  BUt I
think it automatically looks for new mail on startup, whatever prefernce you
are using, so just don't have it auto-start when you log in (Under the
workspace preferences in the Workspace app.)

	Nick
-- 
                             Nicholas C. Weaver
nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu                           nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu
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              Everything I have learned has been by hearsay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Encription in 3.0?
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:52:37 GMT

spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
>Further, even if they are, you may not be able to reliably  
>send NeXTMail because some gateways trash NeXTMail completely.

That would occur with sufficiently long mail too; in other words, it's
not NeXTmail that is making this happen.

>The bottom line is you need to know exactly what the recipient can or  
>cannot receive.  I don't see how knowing whether they can receive  
>encrypted mail would make that any harder.  Besides, I imagine that  
>one doesn't send encrypted mail to everybody; more likely, its sent  
>to people you know well, so that you're likely to know whether they  
>can get encrypted mail or not.

This is the same case with NeXTmail.  Just replace 'encrypted' with
NeXTmail.  In both cases, non-ASCII, encrypted mail should never be
assumed to be the default.

From what I read about the whole encryption issue, I came away with
the feeling that it's a case of the US Government being unable to
crack this encryption so they're making it illegal to export
encryption systems using this method (or maybe it's decryption systems
using NeXT's method, but either way, it means NeXT can't sell the
encryption stuff outside the USA).
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:24:24 EDT
From: <MKK2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga graphics => NeXT format?

In article <1704@nextpoint.UUCP>, reini@demo10 (Michael_Reinemuth) says:

>ILBM is an old Amiga grafics format ... normally Amiga works with IFF Format


   This statement is incorrect.  ILBM is a subpart of the IFF format.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.dcom.modems
From: grio@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:57:21 GMT

In article <BuJ2Lr.HG1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>billb@fnbc.com (Bill Burcham) writes:
>
>>Yeah.  I got mine from:  Black & White Software (Craig Goss):   
>>(802)496-5113.  He bundles a ZyXel in a _black_ case, with the _latest_  
>>ROMs that he has worked w/ ZyXel to tweak for the bundled NXFax software.   
>>You pay a premium for this level of integration, but mine worked  
>
>Or, if you're a cheap hacker, you might want to go with what I
>found to be the rock bottom price for ZyXEL 1496-E's.  Sheri Hamel
>at Boston Computers & Peripherals at 617-551-0166 sold me one which
>I received the other day.  They got it in 1.5 weeks and shipped it
>to me COD.  

How much did they charge for the 1496E?

			--Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.dcom.modems
From: prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:35:55 GMT

In article <BuJqJA.Eus@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>grio@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo) writes:
>
>>In article <BuJ2Lr.HG1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>>>Or, if you're a cheap hacker, you might want to go with what I
>>>found to be the rock bottom price for ZyXEL 1496-E's.  Sheri Hamel
>>>at Boston Computers & Peripherals at 617-551-0166 sold me one which
>>>I received the other day.  They got it in 1.5 weeks and shipped it
>>>to me COD.  
>
>>How much did they charge for the 1496E?
>
>Since I'm not connected with them, (except as a satisfied customer)
>I don't feel bad about posting a price -
>it apparently changes all the time but about 2 weeks ago they were
>quoting $349 plus a few dollars shipping.  They don't take credit
>cards ('yet').  It has the latest production (4.13) ROMs, including
>Caller ID (too bad not in my area yet).
>(technically 5.00 is the latest, but it's still in beta)
>-- 

I was thinking about buying the Supra fax modem. How does the ZyXEL compare?

Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C. Antony)
Subject: Re: Stability of Next as a company
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:18:55 GMT

In article <HARDY.92Sep6231009@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>With the current DM/OS/USD ratios NeXTs in Europe should be outright
>bargains.  Something is wrong if prices don't fall together with the 
>Dollar! (Isn't that the purpose of keeping the dollar low? ).

Wrong! The purpose of having a low dollar is that you can raise the
prices in Europe, once the dollar goes up again.
The typical price movement is as follows:
1) Vendor uses a historical multiply with 2 approach to set the DM or
SFr. prices. (Compare that with the usual exchange rates that vary
from 1.3 to 1.7).
2) If dollar goes up: the price goes up by the same ratio
   If dollar goes down: nothing happens except occasional special
   offers.
3) Technology is outdated, new products are in the wings: Get close to
   US prices while product is discontinued in the US
4) Competition gets really stiff: argue about quality and brand name
   image, but leave the price where it is.
5) If gray-market conditions threaten to drive prices down: stop
   servicing products no bought in Europe, punish dealers that sell from
   the US to Europe. Leave pricing almost intact, but lower the price
   symbolically such that you can claim things got cheaper AND have service.   

Ok, this might be a bit harsh, but it is VERY close to the strategy
almost all vendors have. This is however not a NeXT specific problem.
(This does however not excuse NeXT from participating in the game.)
Only the PC market behaves a little bit different, since the far east
imports drive the prices down. But the TOP-brand-name companies are
fairly untouched by that (i.e. IBM, Compaq, Toshiba)

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From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Re: NS3.0 fake recycled paper?
Keywords: recycle
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:06:40 GMT

jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren) writes:

>	The manuals certainly have a recycled paper look to them but, are  
>they? There is no mention of the paper being recycled, why pretend? I  
>suppose that its even bleached paper dyed to look unbleached.
>	Hopefully, NeXT (Redwood City) is just too cool to mention it.
>	
>	On another important subject, ever notice that the NeXT, Windows  
>and OS/2 logos are all black squares with 4 colors on them? (OS/2 has 5 if  
>you count gray). Did they all hire the same stylists?

>	Jeff

>Jeff Hallgren 
>Email: jhall@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
> 
What is contained in the 3.0 upgrade, specifically what dimensions
are there.  What manuals are there, boxes etc.