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From: wacker@AMPERE.PHYSIK.UNI-DORTMUND.DE (Klaus Wacker)
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Subject: Re: backup methods
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:03:51 GMT
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              Jan 21, 93 01:14:05 pm

Tom Merrick writes:
>
>
> In article <9301210826.AA43894@ampere.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE>
> wacker@AMPERE.PHYSIK.UNI-DORTMUND.DE (Klaus Wacker) writes:
> >Jim Chivas Vancouver Community College writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Greetings:
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any methods to backup their systems that will let
> >> someone other than root access to some or all file systems. How can
> >> I give read access, assuming that is what is required, to someone
> >> other than root.
. . . . .
> >
> >I use sudo to achieve the above. I created a user named backup who is
> >authorized to sudo one shell script, owned and maintained by root,
> >which contains our standard backup procedure.
> >
. . . . .
>
> The question that I have is will sudo work across NFS mounted disks?
> My experience shows that root owned programs will not work across NFS
> mounted disks, so you need to su to root before backing these up.
. . . . .
>
> Tom Merrick
> Ohio State University
>

We use sudo to backup both NFS mounted and local file systems. It is
of course necessary to export the file systems with root access, but
if you didn't do that su root wouldn't help either. In fact, I never
saw a difference regarding access to files between sudo and su root.

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:37:49 GMT
From:         Mike Ellwood <MWE@IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK>

Does anyone have any practical suggestions for a workaround
the 2Gb limit on filesystems, which ideally will be
as transparent to general users as possible, and little
effort to maintain and implement?

Thanks in anticipation.

Mike Ellwood
Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, GB. ( mwe@ib.rl.ac.uk )
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:12:28 CST
From:         Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: backup methods

On 21 Jan 93 01:33:05 GMT, a.0013@VCC3.VCC.BC.CA (Jim Chivas Vancouver
Community College) said:
>Does anyone have any methods to backup their systems that will let
>someone other than root access to some or all file systems.

I wrote a one-line c program that invokes a shell script.  The script
uses mkszfile/mksysb to write the backup to tape.  Then I used the setuid
attribute to give root authority to the executable c program.  That way,
anyone who has access to that c program can make a backup with root
authority.  (Of course, the only person who has that access is our
operator userid.)

Works pretty well.
Bill
>Jim
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:42:32 EST
From:         Paul Ribeiro <ACAD8012@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA>
Subject:      make + other utilities

Hi,
I have an rs/6000 that came with bos pre-installed but it seems that
/usr/ccs/bin is quite empty :-/  (make and lint etc. are all missing)
Can anyone tell me what part of the distribution tape needs to be loaded
to get make and the other unix utilities?
thanks,
/Paul
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
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Bob Shair (shair@barolo.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: NAD@BRUSPVM.BITNET writes:


: >      We have a RS6000 (mod. 530) running aix v3.2 with 64-port serial
: >adapter. We have 8 slip interfaces available  and when i try to add one
: >more slip interface i receive the following message

[....]

: I regret to have to tell you that the maximum number of SLIP interfaces in AIX 3.2
: is hard-coded at 8.  I don't believe that there's any way around it.

Another alternative, if you've already got an ethernet board, is to get
a terminal server that supports SLIP, and offload the responsibility for
SLIP from the RS6000 to the terminal server.

The Xylogics Annex we have supports SLIP as well as rlogin and telnet, and
I've used all three successfully.  The latest software also supports PPP
and LAT.  We're quite happy with it, but it is an expense I'm sure you don't
want to take on, having already bought the 64-port board.
-- 
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From:         "Rob McAteer" <rob@CSI.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: UUCPPassword Problem
              Jan 22, 93 4:07 am

>
> We have an RS/6000 running AIX 3.2. When setting up uucp to this machine,
> instead of "password" the RS returned "nuucp's password" which the receiving
We have our uucp Systems setup to look for lines ending with
login:
and
word:
ie a Systems file entry looks like
system any acu 9600 5551234 in:--in: word: xxx
So it doesn't matter if the called machine returns "password:" or
"nuucp's password:"
> machine could not accept. I tried a number of variations on the string for
> password, but none worked. When I deleted the password from the RS' password
> file, of course, I had no problem. This is OK for direct connect, but not
> useful for modem communications. Has anyone run in to this and solved it?
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>  Shneor Sherman at CA Department of Health Services, Data Systems Branch
>
>  ########### Opinions Expressed Are Mine, Not My Employer's ############
>
>   Sacramento, California, USA ********** hw1.ssherman@ts3.teale.ca.gov
>
>
>


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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:54:13 -0500
From:         Steve Bacher <seb@DRAPER.COM>
Subject:      Re: Q: csh and brackets in a script

>#!/bin/csh -f
>######
>set tolower="tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'"
>echo "abcABC"  $tolower

Change the last line to read:

echo "abcABC" "$tolower"

The double quotes will suppress file globbing.

 - seb
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From:         Jochen Ruhland <jochenr@NEURO.INFORMATIK.UNI-KASSEL.DE>
Subject:      Re: ftp access
              Jan 21, 93 12:26 pm

Rolf Inge Olsen :>>
>
>
> I would appreciate hints on how to set up ftp with user-based access
> control. Users should not be able to establish ftp-connections to
> the user 'root'.
>
Have a look at the man-pages:
  TCP/IP ftpusers File Format

  Purpose

  Specifies local user names that cannot be used by remote FTP
  clients.

  Description

  This file contains a list of local user names that the ftpd
  server does not allow to be used by remote File Transfer Protocol
   (FTP) clients.  The format of the /etc/ftpusers file is a simple
  list of user names that also appear in the  /etc/passwd file.

You may also look at the file /usr/lpp/tcpip/samples/anon.ftp

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From: merrick@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Merrick)
Subject: Re: backup methods
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:14:05 GMT

In article <9301210826.AA43894@ampere.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE> wacker@AMPERE.PHYSIK.UNI-DORTMUND.DE (Klaus Wacker) writes:
>Jim Chivas Vancouver Community College writes:
>>
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> Does anyone have any methods to backup their systems that will let
>> someone other than root access to some or all file systems. How can
>> I give read access, assuming that is what is required, to someone
>> other than root.
>>
>> I am coming from a system that allows me to setup temporary access
>> to all files from the system console. Unix does not have the same
>> concept as a system console, only su root users.
>>
>> Comments?
>> Jim
>>
>
>I use sudo to achieve the above. I created a user named backup who is
>authorized to sudo one shell script, owned and maintained by root,
>which contains our standard backup procedure.
>
>Sudo is described in the Nemeth/Snyder/Seebass book. It is available
>at various ftp sites. If I remember right, I installed it without too
>many difficulties using CC=bsdcc and /usr/ucb/install.

The question that I have is will sudo work across NFS mounted disks?
My experience shows that root owned programs will not work across NFS
mounted disks, so you need to su to root before backing these up.
>
>Regards,
>--
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Tom Merrick
Ohio State University
From: tiendao@NLA.GOV.AU (Tien Dao)
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Subject: Need info re X on PCs
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:48:05 GMT
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Hi everyone,

Could someone please tell me whether there exists free software to run X
Window on Pcs as client to a UNIX/AIX host, and the required hardware to
set it up.

Many thanks,

Tien

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:51:14 CET
From:         Knut Winsnes <SYS85001@NOBIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Q: csh and brackets in a script

Hello, I have a question about csh and the tr command in a script:
(I do not have brackets on my 3179 so I use :<  and >: for left and right
 bracket in this mail)

------file xxx:
#!/bin/csh -f
######
set tolower="tr ':<A-Z>:' ':<a-z>:'"
echo "abcABC"  $tolower
------
when I do
csh -x xxx
I get:

set tolower=tr ':<A-Z>:' ':<a-z>:'
echo abcABC
No match.

So the question is; how do I write the program (xxx) so that it
"delivers" the brackets and their contents to the tr command,
and not makes a list (of files) from it?

Thanks for your time.

Regards
Knut W
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From:         Hubert Partl <partl@HP01.BOKU.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Q: csh and brackets in a script

> set tolower="tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'"

okay, for the start

> echo "abcABC" ! "$tolower"
> echo "abcABC" ! "tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'"

These both try to execute a command that has the name "tr '[..."
without any arguments. Therefore "command not found"

> echo "abcABC" ! tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'

This exectues the tr command with two arguments where the brackets
are quoted (are not used as file names with wildcards).

If you want $tolower to be evaluated by the shell as a complete
command (tr with arguments), you have to use eval.

From my head (I did not test it) it should look similar to
  echo "abcABC" | eval "$tolower"
or without the double quotes, I don't know...


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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:51:25 PST
From:         Jim Chivas Vancouver Community College <a.0013@VCC3.VCC.BC.CA>
Subject:      ls privilege ATTACH *>root

Greetings:   I come from  minicomputer background. On these machines
'others' have only execute permission at the root and these permissions
are passed down to the directories below them. I would like to have
such restrictions on my unix system. I don't want general users
to 'cd ..' to the top of afile system and be able to do a 'ls'
and see what else is there. Also they can then do a 'cd ..' to root
and also do a 'ls ' and see the whole setup of directories. If I
set --x  'others' at the root or filesystem that they are on ex. /home,
they can't run some software. Is there a way that I can restrict users
as I have mentioned? Does anyone else feel that this general listing
openess is a problem?

Thanks,
Jim
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:51:00 CST
From:         VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Backups

>I have to backup my RS/6000 model 220 before a disaster occurs.  I have a
>400MB hard drive that is about 85-90% full.  I have only one volume group;
>rootvg.  I have 5 filesystems as follows:
>
>     /dev/hd4          4096     /
>     /dev/hd2        229376     /usr
>     /dev/hd9var       4096     /var
>     /dev/hd3          8196     /tmp
>     /dev/hd1         57344     /home
>
>I have no tape drive attached to my machine.  I can rdump to a RS/6000 in
>the machine room that has an 8mm tape drive /dev/rmt0.  But when you rdump
>you can only dump one filesystem at a time.  I would assume that you can
>piggyback/stack the filesystems on a tape but I don't know how to set this
>up and to use the tape to restore in case of an emergency.
>
>I would like to be able to do a mksysb of my rootvg volume group.  Can I
>nfs mount the /dev/rmt0 tape drive from another machine?
>
>Are there any other possibilities that other RS/6000 users have implemented?
>
>If I do backup and a disaster stricks, don't I have to have a booted system
>to do restores?


   This is exactly the situation I was in a month ago, and exactly what
I tried, which didn't work. I still haven't figured out what
went wrong, but apparently the system did not find the tape drive I
was trying to use. It defaulted back to the hard disk, so it tried to
backup the hard disk over itself, wiping out /usr. Since the system
was preloaded and this was the first backup, I had to order the tape
from IBM so that I could reload. It took 2 weeks to get the tape.
If there is a tape drive you can borrow, that's what I would recommend
for now.
   In order to make a bootable backup tape, you should run
smit startup   and execute the backup option from there. This only
works from a tape drive that is directly attached to the system. If
you ever need to reboot from your backup tape, the tape drive will
need to be directly attached. Also, be sure you have made your
BOSBOOT diskettes.
   If anyone knows of a way to do this without having the tape drive
directly attached, I am very interested in hearing about it. We are
considering ordering a tape drive because of this situation.

Maryanne Vaughan
VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX
VAUGHAN@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:34:57 -0500
From:         "Rob McAteer" <rob@CSI.ON.CA>
Subject:      Re: your mail
              Jan 28, 93 10:37 am

>
> Does anyone have any practical suggestions for a workaround
> the 2Gb limit on filesystems, which ideally will be
> as transparent to general users as possible, and little
> effort to maintain and implement?
Sorry if this is obvious and doesn't answer your questions, but here goes
anyway...

While the limit seems odd given the logical volume scheme in AIX,
I would avoid large filesystems because if a disc in the filesystem
goes bad,  the whole filesystem could be unusable ie, the volume group
would not have it's quoram (sp?).
We have many large filesystems ( > 1 gig), and have choosen to set many
volume groups, each group holding one filesystem.  That way if a disc or
discs go bad, only that one volume group is lost.

The whole thing can appear as one "filesystem" using symbolic links.
Implementation and maintenance is not too hard (watch backups and symbolic
links though), transparency is a different matter.  Hiding the implementation
can be transparent, but there are times when you might want to know
exactly which machine/disc holds a particular file and the transparency can
be difficult to remove/see through for a general user.
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
hope i helped (flames > /dev/null =8-)
>
> Mike Ellwood
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, GB. ( mwe@ib.rl.ac.uk )
>
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From:         Wayne Maples <cwmaples@FRBMAPLES.WIN.NET>
Subject:      Re: RS6000-Indigo-Xterm

>Hi:
>        I've an RS6000, an X-Station (IBM-130) and an Indigo (Silicon Graphics)
>        I'dont have any trouble in displaying an Aixterm in any of these three
>hosts but when the client is the Indigo and the server the RS-6000 (that is,
>the xterm must appear at the RS-6000 display) the process fail an return the
>message:
>
>Xlib: connection to "150.244.48.53.0.0" refused by server
>Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
>Error: Can't open display
>
>
>                        Any idea?
>
>        Roberto@cnbvx3.cnb.uam.es
>
This is a server access control problem.   From the RS/6000 term
type
                 xhost +whateverIndigohostnameis
It might also be a yellow pages or domain name problem.
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      We have a RS6000 (mod. 530) running aix v3.2 with 64-port serial
adapter. We have 8 slip interfaces available  and when i try to add one
more slip interface i receive the following message

0821-510 ifconfig: error calling entry point for /usr/lib/drivers/if_sl: There
         is a request to a device or address that does not exist.

0821-223 chgif: Cannot get records from CuAt

0821-229 chgif: ifconfig command failed


      How can i fix this problem ? Thanks in advance


  Ulisses
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:39:00 EST
From:         Leo McCarthy <MCARTHY@BCVMCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      xstation fonts

Hello,
I'm trying to run Spectragraphics PC-Xview for windows on a PS2-model 57sx and
telneting to a RS6k-model 560 running aixv3.2.2. Aixterm seems to work fine.
I'm also trying to run SDE/Workbench and I can't get past a problem with the
fonts and color scheme.
The Development Manager displays that it can't convert Swiss 742 bold.
If I try to edit anything, the screen flashes for about a minute and then says
it could handle a list of colors described as hex values, and that it couldn't
handle the emergency font Erg14.

Has anyone seen any of this before?
PC-Xview has a font compiler to convert bdf fonts to fon. Are there any such
fonts on the RS6k?
I found a hit in the IBM-Infolink, but they would answer the guy because it was
OEM.(sigh)
If I can't get this flying soon, we'll have to try XONDOS.(double sigh)
I'd appreciate any suggestions this conference could make. Thank you.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leo McCarthy
Systems Progeammer / fledgling Systems Administrator
Boston College
Chestnut Hill, MA
USA
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:56:28 EST
From:         Leonard Lauria <leonard@SPEEDY.CC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gopher on RS/6000
              Jan 21, 93 4:47 pm

According to J. Scott Hayes:
>
>We will be installing a gopher server on our RS/6k. Has anyone
>experienced any problems doing this?
>
>J. Scott Hayes      jshaye@tsrv1.ts.wm.edu
>Technology Support
>College of William and Mary
>
>J. Scott Hayes  Jshaye@tsrv1.ts.wm.edu
>

I have installed both gopher and xgopher on rs6000s with no problem
at all.  both work well.

leonard

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:32:24 GMT
From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Nancy's Science/Nature Question
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

:"What's the common name of the world's most venomous jellyfish?"

:Oh, yuck, Science/Nature!  Not a category in which I do well.  However,
:since it received so much discussion on this list some time ago, I'm going
:to say the Portuguese man-of-war.

Yeah!!!  I bet I know what comes next!!!

G
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> >Senility has finally set in, tushie-wushie.  It wasn't goat's balls,
> Maybe it was bullocks' ballocks. Whatever "prairie oyysters" are.
> >They were very suckulant.
> You blind me with your ferocious wordplay.
>
> tushar

I should inform you, since you may not be aware of it, that it is
not playing with *words* that makes you go blind.
Be aware of this.  Tonight.
--ggs
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>> >  Joe P.(just now realizing that Words-L is a list for cunning linguists!)
>> Nonsense. There is only one cunning linguist here, on whom mostly everyone
>> has given up.
>>
>Are we starting to speak in tongues again?
>
With lips too, Ken.  Anyone for singing 69 Tubes of KY on the Wall?
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