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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:28:47 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Getting older
              11 Dec 1992 12:22:30 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

>I'm still finding it a little hard to believe that it is very much different
>from walking in fine/soft dry sand (only slightly coarser than talc).... it
>is quite tiring to walk through it because you sink passed your ankles, but
>it is still nicer than walking on regular sand...less jarring to the old bones
>...... and there is a characteristic squeak as you walk through it.
>Carolyn

  Possible differences:  (I have walked on beaches of fine sand, but maybe
                          not as fine as yours.)

  1. The snow stays compacted once it is stomped.
  2. You would probably not be barefoot in the snow, whereas you
     more likely would be in the sand.  On bare feet, of quartz,
     the snow would be *cold* and wet.

* Alt-Brad *
From: ST403231@brownvm.brown.edu (Frank)
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Subject: Graham and his cuteness
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:34:55 EST
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>From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
>
>In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:
>
>>: all deep beliefs should be respected. I'm not surprised that it proved
>>
>>That and I'm just being gratuitously rude because I don't like him.
>>
>Ahh, well, go back to it; don't let me stop you.  I couldn't anyway....:-)
>You're kinda cute when you're rude....
>
>--
Ruth, I have it on good authority that Graham *likes* it when people
say he's cute.  You ought to call him cute more often; it might well
raise the level of coziness of the discourse around here.

[Sorry, G; turnabout *is* fair play. ;-)  ]

Frank
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From:         Anne <harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Now for something completely anal-retentive
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Can you believe this? From the people who gave birth to Project H...

-abh
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Subject: Re: Is 'lurker' PC

>If we want to be PC perhaps lurkers should decide what they are (it's
>they who really know what sort of activity they're engaged in) rather

1). We don't want to be PC.

2). You're kidding, right?

-abh


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From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Freenet
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:15:52 GMT
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Ruth & Graham, thanks for setting me straight.  Eniac is a full-service
machine, and I use telnet, ftp, the works.  The PCPursuit service -is-
a local <dial-in and we'll connect you to about 50 dialout cities for a
set monthyl fee plus oveertime>.  When it was working, it was by all
accounts the best bargain available (ken, do you copy?).  They've
finally acknowledged that I have a problem that might be fixable by
them, and claim to be mightily striving to do so.  

Others I know who use pcpursuit have not had as much trouble as I,
and the noise-generator may yet turn up to be in Bell of Pa/s local
line between pursuit's Philly outdial modem and the university where
eniac is located.

--bayla
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:56:17 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Global Village stuff

>Wow, even in India? Tushar, you are agreeing with GT here: careful, boy...

What do you mean, I am agreeing with GT? Who the hell is "GT"?

>And what is Omsk? some city?

Wake up and smell the newspaper, pig. Omsk exists. It exists, if only
for the reason of providing Tomsk a companion. Point out one goddamned
pair of cities in all of the US which rhymes so beautifully. Let alone
bloody Texas. The best that Americans can come up with is Minneapolis
and St Paul. I mean, give me a break! I call that the stupidest rhyme
in the world!

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:41:50 CST
From:         Tushar Samant <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help me, please!

>                         i must say, i was rather perturbed when i finally
>     discovered that "irescapable" was not word.  my family has been using
>     the phrase "irrescapable urge" for years.  has anyone else ever heard
>     this phrase used? if so, have you any idea where it surfaced and if
>     maybe the word does exist?

I am no expert on this, but my guess is that the standard laws of sandhi
("standard" = common to a lot of Indo-european languges) apply to words
like "inescapable". An initial vowel will always make the prefix "in"
carry an "n". In many cases, assimilation dictates the sandhi:

ir-repressible
im-moderate
in-nominate
il-literate

etc etc. Exactly the same happens with infixes in Persian (daar-US-salaam,
zeb-UN-nissa, zia-UR-rahmaan, etc) and prefixes in sanskrit (ul-lasit, un-
nayan etc). The prefix or infix is the same, but it looks different on the
surface.

"Irrescapable" would lead one to think that "rescape" is a morpheme. It's
true, though, that it goes well with "urge".

tushar
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:11:27 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Words-L Trivial Pursuit
              12 Dec 1992 13:05:22 -0600 from <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>

Count me in too.  I don't understand the rules as outlined so far, but
I would not miss a Words-L activity for all the world.

We are entering a season of the year when there will be dislocations
of one sort and another.  How will these affect the game?

brad
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:22:34 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE NON-MATHEMATICAL QUOTE FROM DONNE
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>Natalie coos
>>If I go to heaven and Donne's there, I want to have an affair with him.
>>I find him highly sexy.
>
>Sorry, I hear there's no sex there; it's a basic value.
>
>JAG

I don't know where you heard that..... such a place would be my definition of
Hell. :-)

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:26:54 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: We Three Kings
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>Evelyn
>
>P.S.  Where's my question?

Gimme a break, Evelyn! I do need some sleep occasionally, you know! :-)
(This message arrived here at 4.35am.... your notification of topic didn't
arrive here before I logged off at 1.30am and today was bill-paying and
food-shopping day so I was late logging on.... but posting your question
WAS my first priority.)

Carolyn
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:25:59 EST
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      OS/2, Mice & Icons's

Our new work stations have arrived (IBM 486DX266 - 16 Meg memory, 200+
hard drives, XGA 15" screens, OS/2).  Although I am not scheduled to
get one till later (when second batch arrives), should at some time give
you a good idea what it is like to use OS/2, mice, icons, in a LAN
environment, as I will have no choice but to use them.  I guess they are
going to convert me from a 30 year big IBM iron person, to itty-bitty PC
person ....or maybe I'll just retire.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:03:04 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Game begins! Blomberg's question
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a shot through the heart by an Aussie tart:

>Blomberg chose History as his subject for his first go; I rolled a 3 so I have
>moved him 3 spaces from the center to the History square. Anne and Agnes have
>both been added to the game and Ken has been taken out.
>
>Here is Blomberg's 1st question:
>
>" What is the 'Blue Ensign'?"

a porno movie with Tim Conway? directed by Gainsborough? you wouldn't believe
what seems like it's following you around the room....

seriously now, folks, I will say the plane that dropped the big one #2 on
Nagasaki.

>(If he answers correctly, he can move 2 spaces and will have a choice between
>Art/Literature or English for his next question topic.... to save time let me
>know which it is with your answer.)

if by some miracle that was correct, I'll take English. However, I suspect
the ball is in Evelyn's court.


>Code: G - Geography
>      E - English              (b.c.--US regular edition=Entertainment)
>      H - History                    (just what does this mean?)
>      A - Art and Literature
>      N - Science and Nature
>      S - Sports and Leisure
>      R - Roll again
>
>
>              *****************************************************
>              *    E       * G * R * A * H * R * S *       N      *
>             ******************************************************
>            * G *       * G *                      * S *       * S *
>           * R *         * S *                    * H *         * R *
>          * S *           * A *                  * G *           * G *
>         * N *             * N *                * A *             * E *
>        * R *               * H *              * E *               * R *
>       * A *                 **********************                 * A *
>     ************************ ed; rmh; bb;        ************************
>    *   *   *   *   *   *   * abh; mka; nh; jw;   *   *   *   *   *   *   *
>    * H   A   G   N   E   S * shk; bg; bz; gs;    * N   G   S   E   H   A *
>    *   *   *   *   *   *   * eh; ak; ah; cjb     *   *   *   *   *   *   *
>     ************************                     ************************
>      * A *                  **********************                 * A *
>       * R *                * G *              * A *               * H *
>        * G *              * H *                * S *             * R *
>         * E *            * E *                  * H * bc        * S *
>          * R *          * A *                    * N *         * N *
>           * N *        * N *                      * E *       *  E *
>            ********************************************************
>            *      S        * N * R * A * H * R * E *       G       *
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 12:59:48 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Bounced Mail
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Oops, sorry I forgot about that. :-(

Carolyn
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:10:20 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Christiane Amanpour
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>It's apparently been a rather rough day, even the generators
>had been been drowned out in an unusual downpour. She is a real trooper.
               **********************************
>AK

Is it happening all over the world? Torrential downpours seem to be the
order of the day here as well.

Carolyn
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:40:25 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Identification etc
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Posted on 12 Dec 1992 at 13:13:19 by JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
>S.I. Hayakawa said he was instantly pegged in Japan as "American", and when he
>asked how they could tell was told, "You walk like one - as if you own the
>street!"

Yes, my walk was the first thing I changed when I was in Japan, so I
wouldn't get hassled by drunken businessmen on the street when I walked
home at night.

Re my friend:  I would have thought his walk would have given him away,
but he was on a bicycle at the time.

Karen
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Fischer details (forwarded)
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:16:34 GMT


	Well, inspired by all this, I played my very first game of
chess ever last night.

-- 
Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation
rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:36:42 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: What's the Sam Hill
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              18 Dec 92 10:18:35 -0500. <9212181529.AA16148@sics.se>

  Thomas (J. Lee) says:

  >I always thought "What the Sam Hill" was the expurgated version
  >of "What the hell".  Nobody I know ever uses it.

  I think this is the most likely derivation of "What the Sam Hill".
Wentworth and Flexner (1960) ("Dictionary of American Slang") say
about Sam Hill only this:


   Sam Hill   Hell. Usu. in "What [or why] in Sam Hill..." Used
   seriously by older people, jocularly or dial. by those under about
   45 years of age. Within another forty years the term will be
   completely dial. and archaic.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:49:08 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Family Values
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Some time ago someone asked to see the actual wording of those statutes
about various forms of sex (eg fellatio, doggie style) being illegal
in several states.  Finally found some quotations:

--
From Bruce Tindall:

In article <1992Dec11.143338.1@icrf.icnet.uk> r_pearce@icrf.icnet.uk writes:
>It is widely believed in this country (UK) that fellatio is actually illegal
>in (some states of) the USA. Is this true? Some of you Yanks must know.
>(Yes, OK, I know, I only put that word in to annoy you.)

Fellatio is illegal in North Carolina under a generally-worded "crimes
against nature" statute that traces its heritage back to statutes of
Henry VIII and Elizabeth I.  The maximum penalty is 10 years'
imprisonment and/or a fine.  It is probably used only as an additional
charge to ensure conviction, or lengthen the sentences, of rapists and
child molesters, but there's nothing in the statute or related court
opinions to prevent its being used against consenting adults, even
consenting married couples.

The statute is N.C.General Statutes 14-177 and reads in its entirety:
"If any person shall commit the crime against nature, with mankind or
beast, he shall be punished as a Class H felon."  Various court opinions
have interpreted "crime against nature" to include oral and anal sex,
irrespective of the gender of the participants.

It was held that "persons of ordinary intelligence would conclude a
fellatio between a man and a woman would be classified as a crime against
nature and forbidden by this section.  This keeps it from being
unconstitutionally vague."  State v. Poe, 252 SE2d 843 (NCApp 1979),
State v. Singleton, 354 SE2d 259 (NCApp 1987).

"The legislative intent and purpose . . . is to punish persons who
undertake by unnatural and indecent methods to gratify a perverted
and depraved sexual instinct which is an offense against public decency
and morality."  State v. Stubbs, 145 SE2d 899 (NC 1966), State v. Adams,
264 SE2d 46 (NC 1980).

All this comes from the annotations to the statute, which also cites
some law review articles, the most recent of which was 58 N.C.L.Rev.
1326 (1980).  It also cites the 400-year-old English statutes as
25 Henry VIII, c. 6, and 5 Eliz., c.17.

By the way, in North Carolina, a husband cannot be prosecuted for
raping his wife.  (Technically, he can be prosecuted, but the fact
that he's the victim's husband is explicitly recognized as a defense
in the statute.)  This is known as "family values".  There is some
agitation to repeal this in the next session of the legislature.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:25:21 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE NON-MATHEMATICAL QUOTE FROM DONNE
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> Natalie, your attention here, please. The following quote proves
> that Donne was a mathematical moron.
>         Oh, to vex me, contraries meet in one;
>         Inconstancy unnaturally hath begot
>         A constant habit;

No, it doesn't.  It shows a creative mathematical mind.

> Then somewhere else he says "at round earth's imagined corners".

Holy Sonnet #7.  But you left out a "the."

> What a total imbecile.

If I go to heaven and Donne's there, I want to have an affair with him.
I find him highly sexy.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: I think we're alone now....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:24:13 GMT

What time is it that UGA is supposed to return to life?  I can't remember.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Red Line Story
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:32:27 GMT
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To the best of my recollection, the NYC subway cars on at least the portion
that was the IRT had driver's cubbies that were on one side only, so you
could look out the front.  The center aisle was bounded by a door at
each end, which had a window in it: if your car was the first or last
in the train, you could watch the tracks & the tunnel.  

--bayla
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:11:13 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (71
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>>Definitely a woman after my own heart!  How about a game of Trivial
>>Pursuit at the salmonbake?
>>
>>Jill
>
>Why wait! With slight modification of the rules we could set up our own
>international game right here..... it wouldn't be much different from reading
>the 'Gleanings' and there seems to be a great deal of interest in them.
>Since each country has it own peculiar set of questions, it would also be
>an indication of who is the most knowledgeable about the others countries.
>Anyone want to play?
>
>Carolyn

How would this be any different from what goes on here all
the time? (Except of course, that someone would be "keeping
score"...something I disapprove of.)

judith
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:35:43 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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> Uh oh.  I've been worried about my brain cells for a good while and am now
> convinced that the worry was justified.  I could have sworn that the list
> mail I've been reading was in English.

He must not have the magic translater the rest of us have.
doris
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Camillemania

>Amazing.  The inherent contradictions in this place never fail to surprise me.

: Does this mean that you have FINALLY stopped making assumptions about people
: you don't know well enough to?

Well put, Karen

Steve Karlson

When you see what appears to be a contradiction, check your premises.
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 19 Dec 1992 20:26:17 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>:> Wise choice.  You can't bullshit in maths with stuff like "but if everybody
>:> uses it, it must be acceptable"...
>
>:Betcha I could...
>:   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
>Yep, *you* could :-)
>
She had a good teacher. :-)

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