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From: censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: SHAMEN
Keywords: Ebenezer Goode
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:41:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

The current UK No1 is Ebenezer Goode by the SHAMEN. It has the following line in it :

	"Has anyone got any Vera's?"

Obviously this is some sort of rhyming slang, but what? Vera Lynns? or Vera Duckworths or what? and what are they anyway?

Apologies to our "friends" in the States who may not have a clue (of what I am talking about)

PS see that Jack Duckworth . . . thats you that is!!

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Xref: sparky alt.rave:3886 rec.music.misc:25365
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: US Orb info
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:29:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <1992Oct13.211441.128524@zeus.calpoly.edu> ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel) writes:
>Latest info from Big Life Records in New York:
>
>The initial shipment (only) of U.F.Orb to American stores will include
>a free bonus CD featuring the 40-minute "Blue Room", a remix of
>"Assassin", and a "Blue Room" remix by Frank DeWolfe (sp?) previously
>unavailable anywhere.  Due in stores November 3rd.

There is also going to be some sort of CD-ROM interactive thing produced
by the Orb and Verbum magazine (a computer-graphics-art mag).  No specific
date yet...

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rojohnso@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: orbital
Originator: rojohnso@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:50:39 GMT


Hey..I was just wondering if someone would describe the sound of the Orb?    
Ive heard of them, and have been tempted to buy them, but never heard any 
music from them...Are they anything like Orbital? To give you an idea of my
musical tastes, I found Orbital to be dead and repetitive, and the only two 
tracks that stood out to me were Belfast and Chime...On 808 State's Ex-EL, my
favorite track was Lift, and on the first album, Pacific...as you can see, Im
more into the dreamy melodic type of ambience/house...Would Orb be my cup of
tea?? :)

                                              Thanx,
                                                RJ
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.is.too
From: fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott)
Subject: Re: Song structure
Organization: Nerds On Parade
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:55:31 GMT

In article <16879141F4.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.151000.14945@aston.ac.uk>
>heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Henegan) writes:
>>
>>Haven't you yet realised that rave music follows the same old four-beat
>>structure with the same old instruments?
> 
>No, it does not.

Does TOO!
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.binaries.pictures.d
From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Every Man and Woman is a Star)
Subject: Orb JPGs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:04:19 GMT

I've just scanned a whole *BUNCH* of Orb Stuff. Here's a catalog
of the directly related Orb stuff so far, but I have a few questions:

Orb001.jpg     Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain #1
Orb002.jpg     Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain #2
Orb003.jpg     Little Fluffy Clouds
Orb004.jpg     Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld Cover
Orb005.jpg     Adventures Beyond... Artwork- Alex on Pagoda
0rb006.jpg     Adventures Beyond... Artwork- Battersea Powerstation
Orb007.jpg     Adventures Beyond... Artwork- Silicon Orbitals
Orb008.jpg     Adventures Beyond... Artwork- Orb Star Over Clouds
Orb009.jpg     Perpetual Dawn
Orb010.jpg     Aubrey Mixes Cover
Orb011.jpg     Aubrey Mixes Artwork- Orb Factor 6
Orb012.jpg     Aubrey Mixes Artwork- Orb Logo
Orb013.jpg     Peel Sessions Cover
Orb014.jpg     Blue Room Disc #1
Orb015.jpg     Blue Room Disc #2
Orb016.jpg     Blue Room Disc #2- Inside Cover
Orb017.jpg     Blue Room Box
Orb018.jpg     U.F.Orb Cover
Orb019.jpg     U.F.Orb Art Print- "Towers Of Dub"
Orb020.jpg     U.F.Orb Art Print- "Blue Room"
Orb021.jpg     U.F.Orb Limited Edition Sticker, from Vinyl Cover
Orb022.jpg     The Orb Live Video Cover
Orb023.jpg     Live CD Cover
Orb024.jpg     Assassin #1 Cover
Orb025.jpg     Assassin #2 Cover

Here are the questions: Since I don't know how to split up these files
in order to post them, if somebody could give me this info, I could do
that. Does anybody want to send me this info, as simplified as possible?

OR: Does anybody want to volunteer a FTP site where I could put all
of these? As of now, I have about 1.5 megs of Orb stuff scanned. If
I add in System 7 stuff, and some other related stuff, it can add up to 
about 2 megs.

If you want details on the scans, they were scanned on a Umax scanner
in 24-bit color TIFF form, then scaled down to a maximum of 640 x 480
so that even those people with crippleware JPEG viewers can see them ;-)
and then they were compressed into JPEG form. Most were scanned from CD
covers, and I think that they all look exceptional.

Thanks for any info that you can all give me....
-- 
Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com 
"Got enough guilt to start my own religion."
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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 07:18:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <p_hp6sb@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>george@windslc.nrel.gov writes:
>
>> Pretty early punk, if you ask me. I don't recall anyone even using the
>> term 'punk' in the early '70s. 
>
>You weren't reading much Lester Bangs or _Creem_ then . . .

Were YOU?  Come on, laz, cut us some slack.  While I am not going to side
myself with the others who have complained, I do often sense a tension in
all your posts.  Your net.god status is secure, don't worry, thanx to all
the music-related stuff you do.  But trying to prove it every time is
beginning to.. er... wear on me and others.  _I_ don't remember them using
the term "punk" in the early 70's, primarily because I was born in 1973! ;)
The earliest group I can remember ever being considered "punk" was the 
Ramones, and then no one else until the Damned and the Sex Pistols.  Of
course, I _could_ be wrong.  I freely admit that.

	Brian



Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: "Journey through the hardcore" (Detroit)
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:47:35 GMT

             From the Original Dance Music Promotors
                           we present
                The ULTIMATE Dance Party Festival
 
                 JOURNEY THROUGH THE HARDCORE
____________________________________________________________________
Friday October 23, 9PM-4AM
 
KMS Records presents a dance concert to the extreme!
Featuring these confirmed live acts & DJs in the Sci-Fi Techno-rave arena
 
          Live from NYC, the return of
                    MOBY
 
          Detroit's Techno terrorists
            UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE
 
        Top rave act direct from England
                    MANIX
 
                    Plus
                 BLAKE BAXTER
 
               Special guest DJ
         KEVIN SAUNDERSON of Inner City
 
DJ's in the Sci-Fi Techno/rave arena
D. Wynn * Magic Juan Atkins * Richie Rich Hawtin * Claude Young * Alan Oldham
Inxomniak * Jeffrey Q & BMG
 
Dj's in the Tribal "House" arena
Alan Ester * Stacey Hale * Workkin' Mixx-Rick Wilhite
Eddie Fashin' [sic] Fowlkes * DJ. Dangerous
 
INTRODUCTION
"For several years Detroit Dance artists have lead the way
[....much propaganda deleted... -E]
...most amazing event in Michigan's history".
 
THE EVENT
We will be attempting to set a new record for the state of Michigan
[....more propaganda deleted... -E ]
...Everything is 100% guaranteed!!!!
 
ATTRACTIONS
Multiple dance areanas, a 50K Martin sound system, intellibeam lighting,
flower strobes, dance platform, glow in the dark whistles & necklaces,
lasers, free ice pops, cash bar, restaurant on the premises, & a new look
to The Majestic
 
TICKETS $10. ADV.
$10 in advance at Ticketmaster outlets $12.50 at the door,
stringent security, free parking available, NOTE: Charter buses
available from various campuses upon demand & will be coordinated by
a campus rep. Call Information (313) 259-1553.
Get your tickets early to avoid disappointment!!!
 
A Reflection of the past... A view to the future
 
sponsored & supported by:
Record Time, Panic, Unity, VOOM, rave boy.
 
Majestic * 4120 Woodward, Detroit
Info lines: (313) 259-1553 * (313)741-HYP-R * (313) 433-2129 * (313) 358-9882
Directions: (313)833-9700
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Satoshi/Marshall
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:19:03 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Hey....

Just wanted to reply about Robert Owens tracks...I believe he was the vocalist
on "Break Down the walls", his voice is so distinct, its hard to confuse it
with anyone else.  As far as "So many tears" go, Robert did that one too.
Satoshi Tomii, if im correct is just a keyboardist/musician...he did something
on Deee-Lite's latest album by the way...Ive read in a NY paper, the village
voice that Robert Owens is a former partner of a musician by the name  of
Larry Heard...The duo did an album together under the name Fingers Inc (which
Ive been combing the stores to find)  Heard is now "Mr. Fingers" and he has an
album out called "Introduction"....As far as Marshall Jefferson goes, the last
time Ive heard from him, he was the producer on Ten City's last album, "State
Of Mind"...dont know what he's up to now....


                                             Peace
                                              RJ
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby)
Subject: discography UR
Originator: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:11:27 GMT


-------

yep me again. i've also decided to try and keep up an underground resistance/
hardwax/wpa discography..
so, once again, if anybody has stuff to add please mail me
at ndc@engin.umich.edu

in particular, i'm looking for info on the missing UR numbers, along
with info on stuff underground resistance has done on other labels.
(acid rain ep on shockwave fer instance, but mostly the extra
stuff on tresor records which i can't find anything about here)
also, i've found some discrepancies in the different hardwax releases,
as if there were different versions or something. does the track
'blow your house down' fall under the hardwax umbrella? i never thought
it did but someone said that was HW001.  anyway

thanks


===================
UR001	your time is up 12"		underground resistance w/yolanda
UR002	sonic ep			underground resistance
UR003	the final frontier		underground resistance
UR004	waveform ep			underground resistance
UR005	nation 2 nation LP		underground resistance
UR006	the prince of techno ep		blake baxter
UR007	living for the night 12"	underground resistance w/yolanda
UR008	gyroscopic ep			the vision
UR009	elimination remix 12"		underground resistanceW w/yolanda
UR010	RIOT 2 ep set			underground resistance
UR012   fuel for the fire ep (included with ur010)
UR013.5	sonic destroyer 12"		x-101
UR016	living for the night remix	underground resistance w/yolanda
UR017	the punisher 12"		underground resistance
UR018	the fury 12"			underground resistance
UR020	world 2 world ep		underground resistance

WPA001	belgian resistance
WPA002 	the seawolf
WPA003	kamikaze

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: House Comps 
Keywords: house compilations
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:50:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.003732.22454@njitgw.njit.edu> cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The
InfoMan) writes:
>    About some House comps,
>    I have a comp called House Haulibes (sp??) I forget what the
>second word is. But this comp has some good house and it has the song
>"This is Acid".

House Hallucinates vol. 1, I think you mean.  I don't think they ever
put out a volume 2.  HH is/was a very popular compilation on A&M Records.
It was probably the first and one of the only mass-market acid house
compilations in the U.S.  A few of the tracks still sound really good
today.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: What's this upcoming _Orbital Dance: Best Of Orbit_ compilation?
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 00:14:55 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

bgray1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Brandon Gray) writes:

> Has anyone heard the remixes he (william Orbit) has done for Seal?

I have -- both "Crazy" and "Killer" are quite good.  His remixing style
really suits Trevor Horn's production sound.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:54:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

i believe that there's a hotel on st. marks pl. that is a lot less
 than 50$ a night.  i don't know the name of it (i think it has st. marks
 in its name, however), and i take *no* responsibility for what it might
 look like inside, but it is cheap.

- bob gaj
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dpotosky@dewey.NMSU.Edu (David Potosky)
Subject: Re: someone please clarify this...
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:39:13 GMT

In article <Bw1DA1.MIz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cs125b55@dcl-nxt35.cso.uiuc.edu  
(cs125 student) writes:
> In article <slappy-121092163309@mac233.acns.nwu.edu>  
> slappy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Don Rossi) writes:
> > hey, maybe this is a dumbass question, but i'm a mobile dj who has been
> > diggin the rave scene for  about a year and a half, since i snatched a 
> > quadrophonia 12" out of curiosity. my question is this: are the terms
> > "techno" and "rave" interchangeable when referring to the tunes? i've
> > seen "techno" charts and "rave" charts posted side by side in the same 
> > magazines, and have been corrected by attitude-toting record store  
> clerks
> > about my choice of terms. (clerks who, by the way, couldnt give me a
> > straight 
> > answer about the difference when i asked them)  Although the idea of
> > labeling
> > something as strictly "this" or strictly "that" perturbs me, im really
> > curious
> > about this little quandry  -  help me out.  thanx. 
> 
> "Rave" is a term for a dance party.  "Techno" is a type of music.
> Therefore, "rave" and "techno" shouldn't be interchangeable.
> You can play techno, house, or disco in any raves (depending on the
> likes of the DJs).
> 
> Another related example is the terms "House Party" and "House music."
> "House party" is, of course, a dance party.  "House music" is a type of
> music.  You don't necessarily need to play house music in house parties.
> You can play hip-hop.
> 
> If anybody thinks I'm wrong, feel free to clarify this.  Plus, I'm also
> trying to define what's "Deep House."  From what I've been hearing for
> years, deep house is disco (more oriented toward Black/soul; nothing
> like the Saturday Night Fever).  Deep house artists include First Choice,
> Gil S. Heron, and Diana Ross.  But, I've read a posting from someone
> calling CeCe Peniston's "Finally" deep house.  I don't think so. Let me
> hear what others think.
> 
> 				Techno Houser



I was under the inpression that Rave also refered to the music that developed  
from raves....I have heard blur, happy mondays, etc referred to as "rave"  
music.....just my two pennies.

So what the hell is trans-house?

--
David P. Potosky
Computer Science Dept.
New Mexico State University
dpotosky@NMSU.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers)
Subject: Re: SHAMEN
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:45:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.151727.16294@eng.cam.ac.uk> kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price) writes:
>
>Also, Vic VapourRub is used (or so I'm told!!) at raves. What about 
>Olbas Oil? Anyone tried it, for anything!?!?!
 
If you like Vicks, you'd probably go for this. Much stronger aroma,
promotes rushes (so I'm told :-) :-)). Empty some on your hands,
and cup them against your face and inhale - mmmmmm.

Question: Anyone know the % increase in sales of Vicks VapoRub since
          it became largely used (and sold) at raves??

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Vera Lynn's
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:43:21 GMT


This whole Vera Lynn conversation has been pretty interesting to me...
Just curious - did that name come about as slang for rolling paper
before Pink Floyd's The Wall??  Wasn't Vera Lynn an actual singer back
in the 40's or so??

--
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From: bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian S. Kazmierczak)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno Compilations
Keywords: compilations techno
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:58:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <Bw2CrK.6vo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER) writes:
>
>   Does anyone know of several good techno compilation CD's? I checked out
>a few in a record store, but I only knew 3-4 of the artists, and I wasn't 
>willing to sink $30 into a double CD that I might end up hating. I asked 
>the sales clerk and he said 'techno is really unreliable. the bands end
>up changing their names so often you don't know who is who...'. I disagree
>there, but besides 'Rave 'til Dawn', 'Only for the Headstrong', and the
>'Kaos Theory' series, anyone have any suggestions?

Well, most techno "artists" record under several names, but...

I like RaveAlert (this might only be import) a lot. It has Rythm is a Dancer,
Rave Alarm (Praga Khan), Trip to Trumpton, Sesame's Treet, an Altern8 song 
and a few other good songs. I also recommend the TechnoSonic series (I think
there may only be two in the series right now).


>|   Craig Pfeifer, Purdue U.  |  We are hope despite the times."  - R.E.M.    | \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ 

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Future Sound Of London: Accelerator
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:27:23 GMT

guru sez:
	I finally managed to find a copy of Accelerator (absolutely excellent,
	I've still not really had time to listen to it), but I may have a 
	typo on the tracklist.

	Not having my turntable or cd player with me here at college, I bought
	the cassette, and on the inside the tracklist calls the last track
	"Central Industrail", but, listening to it, the sample of the woman's
	voice *definitely* says "Welcome to Central Industrial".
	                                                   ^^
	Does anybody else have this? Particularly, does it crop up on any
	other format?
-- 
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     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
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Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:25:49 GMT

In <-94-TF=@engin.umich.edu> rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
>In article <alchemy.718398887@cs1.bradley.edu> alchemy@cs1.bradley.edu (Mike Swiston) writes:
>>In <9227801.21982@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars) writes:
>>% I know that The KLF sampled the quote "Kick out the JAMs" from the
>>% group MC5, but could anyone tell me what exactly the group MC5 actually
>>% is? I'm looking at a catalogue listing of an MC5 album called "Kick out
>>% the Jams", now does this have anything remotely to do with The KLF, or
>>% does it sound remotely anything like KLF stuff?
>>The "connection" is a joke (?) from the Illuminati
>>trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea.
>>Musically, there's no connection.
>Gih?  What "connection" between the MC5 and the JAMs/KLF is from the
>Illuminati trilogy (yes, I know what JAM stands for).

The Illuminati trilogy claims that the MC5 were illuminated and
part of the JAMMS or something like that.  It's been a while since
I read the book.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
        There are always connections; you have only to want to find them
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: K6K@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Kin W Koo)
Subject: Re: Future Sound Of London: Accelerator
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:00:28 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Oct13.212840.11578@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu writes:

> 
> The CD cover clearly says "Central Industrial"

Well, my CD cover says "Central Industrail"
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Subject: Re: ACID SPECIAL
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:30:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.141742.7167@csd.uwe.ac.uk> pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>Why did the old ravers used to drop Acid at raves ???????????????
>
>It is impossible to move your body coherently let alone do something hard like
>dance! If you ask me the whole Acid craze was just media hype.

Are you sure?  Meaning, have you tried it?  If so, how much did you take?
Maybe (if you did try it) your mind/body just reacts differently than most
other people's do.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.rave