HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Installing Network software? Help?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 07:51:41 GMT


Earlier tonight, I <johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)> wrote:

>We just (finally) upgraded to System 7 (specifically 7.0.1/Tuneup1.1.1)
>and can no longer get our network softare installed properly.  It's a
>IIci 8/80 with Cache card.  A couple of questions here:
>
>  1.  What does the System 7.0.1 Installer actually install as pertains
>      to an ethernet board and network stuff?  When I try to use the
>      Network control panel, I get a dialog telling me that my Network
>      software has not been installed correctly and that I should go back
>      and reinstall it.

Thanks to a number of people who told me to simply turn on AppleTalk in the
Chooser dialog window.  Two problems still -- first is:

  A. we have a DeskWriter (a la 1989 or so) that is connected to the printer
     port and when I boot the Mac with AppleTalk on, the DeskWriter screams
     about "bad baud rate".  Any suggestions there?

>  4.  On a slightly different subject ... How should MacTCP (1.1) be set up
>      under System 7.0.x?  I know there has been talk back and forth about
>      such-and-such being in the System Folder itself as opposed to the 
>      Control Panels folder (with an alias in the CP folder).  How should
>      that be set up?

Oops.  I got the version wrong.  We have MacTCP 1.0.2 and version 1.1 of
the "MacTCP Tool" (CommToolbox(?)).  What is the purpose of the "Tool"?
(I think I should be able to get a newer version of MacTCP, but am out of
luck until Monday -- in the meantime, I've got a couple of my officemates
without Mac<-->Unix connections :-(  .)

The second problem:

  B. Well, the AppleTalk switch got me a bit further, but now NCSA Telnet
     (2.4.02 MacTCP) complains about not being able to open the TCP drivers
     while MacX says it can't find the resolver.  Are these beasts searching
     for a "MacTCP DNR" file (which MacTCP 1.0.2 apparently doesn't generate)?

Again, any suggestions (by post or e-mail) would be most helpful!
Thanks in advance!


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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Help desperately needed with Shiva Config
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:32:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.9APR92173237
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a3

I'm running kind of low on time to get this solved, so if anyone can
help me out here, it would be tremendously appreciated.

The lab aide here gave me copies of the NetModem chooser document and 
the Shiva Config CDEV for the Shiva NetModem, both version 3.6.6, to 
install on one of the Mac Pluses in the lab.  Shiva Config has crashed 
under every version of System 6 I have tried it on.  I tested it on 
6.0.5, 6.0.7 and 6.0.8.  It gives me an address error as it tries to 
load it, preventing me from booting the computer.  NetModem has not 
given me any problems, but obviously I cannot establish a modem 
connection without Shiva Config.

Now, I must admit that I know little about what can be done in this
instance.  I do know that the modem was purchased by the school in 1989,
and was not used for quite some time.  The lab aide apparently obtained
these drivers from Shiva's BBS, because he had had version 2.4 and it
didn't work with the system software that was in place.

Anybody that can offer me any type of solution, please get back with me
on this.  Thank you very much in advance.

ObDisclaimer:  I am not employed by, or represent the school or computer
lab I mention in this post.  My reasons for this post are that I have
exhuasted my own options in trying to figure this out, and it doesn't
appear that the employees here will be able to help me out either.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Subject: Re: Telpass--Where?
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:04:10 GMT

>Note of warning: if you turn on passwords, you will probably not be able to
>FTP to your Mac from Sun Sparcstations

I do this all the time...


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From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:40:52 GMT

In article <14153@claris.com> Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>I have a Supra v32bis on order, and expect to get it this week. Can
>someone please post or email the pinouts for a hardware handshake cable

Untested, but drawn from my archives of comp.sys.mac (back when there was
only one newsgroup) from about 3 years ago:

DIN 8 pin number          25 pin D pin number
        1                         4
        2                         5
        3                         2
        4                         7
        5                         3

   Someone please correct if this is inaccurate.

   Andrew

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mark_silbernagel@mentorg.com
Subject: Re: TheNews news reader
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 18:11:35 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation

In article <1992Apr7.050729.819@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End) writes:
>In <kga.92@lmsc.lockheed.com> kga@lmsc.lockheed.com (Ken G. Andrews) writes:
>
>>Hello,
>
>>I have heard of newsreaders NewsWatcher and TheNews for Macs...
>Ken,
>
>Watch out for that program "The News". It has so many bugs that things
>like changing active windows will cause it to crash. In my opinion it
>is the most incompatible piece of software I have ever seen on the
>Mac. Even on the most stripped down system, no go. I have tried
>several versions as they have been released over the last year or two.
>
>Flames and minor disagreements welcomed.
>
>Jim
>E-mail me:
>jgraham@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu  
>

Huh. It's the only one I've been able to get working reliably. The others
seem to suffer from memory problems associated with having 2500+ groups on
our NNTP server. Nuntius seems to be OK, but is missing some of the features
I've found on TheNews that I like, e.g. Mark as read (& variations), Catch Up,
and Append rather than just Save.

None are perfect, but I like TheNews.

One memory related issue: it is fussy about not having enough. If it runs out
it seems able to corrupt the program itself rather easily. Once I set the
application size to 2500k (yup, 2.5Mb) I stopped having these problems.

Mark Silbernagel
Mentor Graphics Corporation

mark_silbernagel@mentorg.com
From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: White Knight Updates
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:40:09 GMT
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA

I was able to get the file unstuffed by using Stuffit Expander, thanks to
a kind netter.  However, walkerj@math.scarolina.edu (Jim Walker) warns against 11.13,
saying that it won't go into background on a download.  I tried that, on a
6.0.7 system, and could not get it into background using the Apple menu item;
however, I did if I clicked on the program icon at the top right of the
screen.  I'll try it under Sys 7.01 this evening.  I'll also try to get
on GEnie and ask FreeSoft about that.

Larry

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From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP - PB170 modem problems...
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 14:23:39 -0500

drew@netcom.com (Drew Wade) writes:

  >prodigy@cs.mcgill.ca writes:
  > 
  >> I'm just about to go crazy... Ughh... I've been trying to get this
  >> damn pb170 modem to work with the only comm packages I have (a old 
  >> version of Microphone II, and others), with no success...
  >>  
  >> Everytime I dial, it seems to connect, it then pauses a few seconds,
  >> then flashes CONNECT 2400, followed by a few characters of crap
  >> on the next line, then instantly displays NO CARRIER.
  >
  > one guess:  the modem you're calling (at the other end) is confused by the 
  > pb modems attempt to establish a reliable (MNP5) connection...this is a
  > negotiation that occurs after the speed negotiation (that got the 2400bps).
  > 
  > it's too bad the manual with the pb modem doesn't explain all the 
  > registers...
  > 
  > but by comparing to another 2400bps MNP5 modem (practical peripherals) 
  > i looked up the command to turn off the mnp stuff and found the folloing
  > works: at\n0 and to turn back on mnp5 at\n3 or just atz or at&f
  > (recall factory settings).
  
   Not every modem uses the same extended command set (extended = beyond the 
basic Hayes AT command set).  For example, a US Robotics and a Practical 
Peripherals modem will all use different commands to turn on and off 
MNP compression.  I don't see why you should expect a internal PB modem 
to use the particular command set your modem happens to use.

   To turn off error correction (MNP or v.42) on a USR HST d/s, the 
command would be AT&M0.  Your command will surely be different.
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Other Comm Toolbox Tools?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:28:02 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.7b2


In article <1992Apr14.122719.26546@panix.com> (comp.sys.mac.comm), spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:
> How tough would it be to put a comm toolbox wrapper around the
> publicly available rz/sz? Mind you, I've never diddled with comm
> toolbox, but maybe somebody who's got the book could do us all a
> favor....

And maybe not... This is a serious piece of work.


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8840 Main Street, Whitmore Lake, MI  48189
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From: aw0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Aaron Wohl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: softkiss / radio modem driver
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:27:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wdv8C9u00WA1M7sIgR
Organization: Special Projects, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Softkiss connects a modem directly to a macintosh.  This saves having a
TNC.  Softkiss will work with 300 baud HF, 1200 baud VHF and higher
baudrates.  The software is in the early stages of development and is
not useful in everyday work at this time.

You can send test packets and recieve/print packets at this time.
The test programs are available via anonymous ftp from host
akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.35.1] in /aw0g/softkiss1f.hqx

Changes since the last release:  You can test transmit, recieve,
interrupts, dual port simultainious recieve, support 300 baud,
use power manager on power books/portables.

If you are working on hardware and want to test your hardware
pick up this release.  If you want a complete usable software package
wait for a later release.
Aaron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: share voice line with modem line?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:11:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.214807.7549@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> egapmh@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Paul M. Hudy) writes:
>
>Hi,
>   I was wondering (wishing) whether a gadget exists which does the
>following: Like most people, I have a phone line coming into my house.
>When on the road, it sure would be nice to call home and access my
>modem whenever I wanted, but as a default situation, still have normal
>functionality for my answering machine and telephone. Here is how I
>imagine it would work....I call (from a touch tone phone). If I don't
>want access to the modem (which is always on...I guess), I do nothing.
>If I do want to activate the modem, a enter a code from the touch tone
>telephone keypad, which sends out the tone which activates the modem
>and thus gives me access to machine + ability to use appletalk remote,
>etc. All over one line. Anything like this exist? My understanding is
>that as it stands now, my modem can either answer all calls or no
>calls, likewise to my answer machine.
>   Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
>-Paul Hudy <egapmh@ecsvax>

You have just described the ASAP TF-555 from Command Communications. It
allows you to connect a fax, modem and answering machine to a single line

It detects the appropriate device (like a fax if you have one) or
accepts a touch tone code (4 digit, programmable) to access a connected
modem.

The product retails for $199.95 (I have seen it for $149) and requires no
special installation.

Your local computer store should be able to get one; if not call
Command Communications at (303) 750-6434 (Colorado).

Regards,
Tom Karches

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From: Sundar_Prasad@mtsg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Modem for IIsi : Advice needed
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:21:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Civil Engineering, U.B.C.

Hello Netgurus,
I am about to venture on entirely unfamiliar territory, i.e. modems for
the Mac. I am more comfortable with ethernet within the university, but
now want to connect from a Mac at home. My budget is between $200-300 (Cdn). I
understand that 2400 baud devices are the most commonly used now
and need info on which modem (FOR THE IIsi) has the best price/performance
ratio and whether any of them come bundled with useful communications
software. Thanks in advance.

Sundar_Prasad@mtsg.ubc.ca
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: Re: LC II and Apple ethernet card for the LC
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:10:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.180242.3453@lth.se> roland@dna.lth.se (Roland Mansson) writes:
>Does Apple's ethernet card for the LC work with LC II? I've tested one card
>and it didn't work (the LC II didn't even boot with it), but I can't imagine
>that Apple has invented yet another PDS slot. I can't see any reason why it
>shouldn't work (and if there is any then surely Apple could have 
>designed the card correctly in the first place).

Just as a tangental note, Asante's LC ethernet card will work with the
LC II, but it requires a new set of drivers.  Currently, the drivers
are in beta (or they were last I heard from Asante - 2 weeks ago), but
are available on a request basis.  When finalized, the new drivers
will ship with the card.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: duane@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Duane Clark)
Subject: Re: Telnet on a Quadra?
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:34:29 GMT

brenner_t@wums.wustl.edu writes:

>Has anyone gotten a freeware/shareware telnet/ftp package to work on a
>Quadra?  I've tried to get both NCSA Telnet  (2.4.5) and SU MacIP (1.0?) to
>work on the beast, both of which I've installed and work on numerous other
>macs.

I've found Telnet 2.4.5 kind of buggy. I got Telnet 2.5b (beta) and have
been using it for a couple of weeks - it seems to work fine. I am using
it on a Quadra900 right now.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:42:08 GMT

In article <702792058.F00002@blkcat.UUCP> Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo) writes:
>wc7044@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin) writes
>
>  > Wait a minute.  I thought that v.32bis gives 38400, and plain v.42
>  > gives 14400 bps. (even modem ads seem to differ on facts, leaving me

>   Nope.  v.32bis has a basic transmission speed of 14400 (however 
>data compression may allow a higher effective throughout).
>

I've seen a lot of modems advertised lately with v.32bis, but no
mention is made of plain old v.32. Are all v.32bis modems
automatically backward compatible with v.32? I would like the capacity
of v.32bis for future expansion, but the system I connect to most
frequently now is v.32.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Subject: White Knight Updates
Summary: funny file
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:35:25 GMT

 I got the 11.12->11.13 patch file from Sumex, but neither BinHqx 1.02 or
Stuffit 1.51 decoding give a useable sit file.  The file decodes to
about 240-some K but neither program sees it, although the type & creator
look right.  Mac Tools says it is nearly empty, just a header, a few ASCII
chars, and only a couple of blocks.  UnStuffit Deluxe claims that it's
a new format and that it will need a newer version of the program, but
in view of how the file looks, I think it's just confused.  Has anyone
else had luck decoding this?

Larry

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From: prodigy@cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP - PB170 modem problems...
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:49:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr11.224949.14928
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Originator: prodigy@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca


I'm just about to go crazy... Ughh... I've been trying to get this
damn pb170 modem to work with the only comm packages I have (a old
version of Microphone II, and others), with no success...

Everytime I dial, it seems to connect, it then pauses a few seconds,
then flashes CONNECT 2400, followed by a few characters of crap
on the next line, then instantly displays NO CARRIER.

I have a feeling that if I get a comm program such as uaTerminal, based
on the apple comm box, i shouldn't have any problems, but... i can't
download it without a working comm program!!!

I have a PC available with a netmodem, so I can download stuff to my
pc, but i'll be damned if I can find a way to download a mac program
(ie. the Stuffit 1.5.1 sea file) to the pc, and then use AFE to
put it on the mac... sigh... if anybody can help me.. it would
be much appreciated...

- thanks

-Chris Alpaugh
 prodigy@cs.mcgill.ca
From: Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:10:01 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation

In article <3ppj!5b.jgro@netcom.com>, jgro@netcom.com (Jeremy Grodberg) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr3.230641.16672@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jsm2r@Virginia.EDU (John S. Mitchell) writes:
> > [I've had dropouts receiving from my new SupraFAXModem v.32bis (SN 158)
> >on my MacIIsi at DTE speeds over 19200 bps.  Supra said it is the Mac's
> >fault.  Is that true?]
> 
> In addition to making sure you have a hardware handshake cable and
> making sure your telecom program is set up to use hardware
> handshaking, as many have suggested, you must also be sure that you
> have the modem plugged into the modem port, and not the printer port;
> they are not the same.  The printer port is de-optomized to not
> receive data quickly, in order to avoid overloading the computer with
> appletalk traffic (please don't make me explain it, but believe me, it
> does make sense).  You also need a good telecom program that can draw
> chacters on the screen at 56kbps; try setting the screen to 1 bit per
> pixel before starting the program.  If your telecom program lets you
> specify a serial port buffer size, set it to at least a screen full of
> characters (24 x 80 = 1920), and perhaps much more.

I have a Supra v32bis on order, and expect to get it this week. Can
someone please post or email the pinouts for a hardware handshake cable
just in case I can't find one locally?  For that matter, if anyone knows
of a source of hardware handshake cable in the silicon valley area,
could you post or email that also?

Until I find a hardware handshake cable, what is the best software solution
for maximum speed possible?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: nagel@Cigna.COM (Mark Nagel)
Subject: Re: White Knight Updates
Organization: CIGNA FIRST, Irvine, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:22:50 GMT

In <1992Apr9.193525.20909@venice.sedd.trw.com> gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore) writes:

> I got the 11.12->11.13 patch file from Sumex, but neither BinHqx 1.02 or
>Stuffit 1.51 decoding give a useable sit file.  The file decodes to
>about 240-some K but neither program sees it, although the type & creator
>look right.  Mac Tools says it is nearly empty, just a header, a few ASCII
>chars, and only a couple of blocks.  UnStuffit Deluxe claims that it's
>a new format and that it will need a newer version of the program, but
>in view of how the file looks, I think it's just confused.  Has anyone
>else had luck decoding this?

I had no problems with this.  I thought it was a Compactor Pro
file, though.  The newest version of Unstuffit Deluxe or the
decompress-only version of Compactor Pro should take care of it.
However, once I applied the patch, I found that my compiled scripts
are no longer owned properly by WK.  I just found out this morning;
I'll have to rebuild the desktop or something later and see if that
fixes the problem.  Also, if you are running GateKeeper, make sure
you fix the default entry for PUP Decryptor; it gives only
File(Other) permission, but really needs both File(Other) and
Resource(Other).

Mark
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