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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Annihilator question...
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:10:46 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <Bz4psI.E4B@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
> Hullo, fans,
> 
>   I have never heard Annihilator, and was wondering if someone could give me
>   a frame of reference.  are they any good, what is their best, etc. what do
>   they sound like, who could you compare them to, etc.  Thanks all...
> 
> 							the man

I had one of their albums, NEVER NEVER LAND, and got rid of it. It was well
done I suppose, but had no spark. They didn't sound like they cared, 
especially the singer I think. Wait, I may still have it, because I think
nobody wanted to buy it (that says something).

--Semhaza
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:51:55 GMT


>>> Skyclad have to be just about the most original metal band since Celtic 
>>> Frost. They play thrash metal but with a violinist called Fritha. The band
>>> was formed by ex Sabbat vocalist Martin Walkyier. The thing about him is that 
>>> he looks and sings just like Ozzy Osbourne; who knows... Skyclad, the next
>>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I also thought about it.He looks like Ozzy, the last song intro sounds like
>DIARY OF A MADMAN song.And Martin is ex SABBAT, Ozzy is ex SABBATH !
>
>>'Nuff said? Good! Remember:  Sabbath sucks, Sabbat rules! Watch out for that
>>unnecessary 'h', boys 'n girls, cause Walkyier is wild!
>>
>>--Semhaza
>
>Sabbath sucks? Suck my motherfucking dick, asshole!
>
>Sabbath's been around for more than 20 years and you'll see what
>ppl will say about SABBAT even in 5 years!
>
>Duh!
>
Jeez, that's the second time you've insulted one of my friends on this net.
So she doesn't like Black Sabbath. Neither do a lot of people. Except for Dio's
stuff I don't like 'em either. But I don't like blues, so that's my thing
against them. Just because a bands' been around 20 years doesn't mean everyone
has to like them. 

philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
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From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Subject: Marty Friedman's "Scenes"
Summary: Totally roolin' stuff from Marty F.!!!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:21:32 GMT



Marty Friedman (of Megadeth fame) has just released a solo effort.... it is
partially produced (and pretty heavily influenced in style) by Kitaro... I
picked up the tape after hearing a friend's copy.  Neither of us expected a
'composer' album... quite the difference from Megadeth's style... He enlisted
Nick Menza on drums and Brian BecVar (Kitaro's keyboardist) on keys....  The
whole album is *very* musically sound and beautiful to listen to... nice and
relaxing....

-- KSV
From: ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: NWOBHM ID
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:21:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

[EVERYTHING deleted]

Well, I don't know any of those bands, with a single exception; Hammerhead.
Don't yell at me if there are six-hundred bands world-wide named Hammerhead,
I only know of one.  They're signed on Noise/Amphetamine Reptile.  They're
an Austin band that plays hardcore/industrial.  Something of a cross
between Helmet and Godflesh (they LOVE feedback).  But their singer bites the
big one.  Oh, well.  Maybe they'll pick up a good singer sometime, and be a
great band.  All I know; sorry, can't help with the rest.

By the way, anybody know how to get a hold of weird shit like this?  I'm
looking for some stuff off of the Grindcrusher comp. and the Dope, Guns, and
Fucking in the Streets come.  (Earache and Noise/Amphetamine Reptile 
respectively.)  I just want to know how to find the stuff.

-James
University of Pennsylvania
ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

"I told them I'll take the electric chair, but please don't get me up to
early."  -Lubricated Goat, "Bad Times"
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From: spschure@cs.ruu.nl (Sjoerd Schurer)
Subject: Skyclad fans?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:45:20 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

How many Skyclad fans are here on the net?


-- 
	***|I am human- I was made to be the ultimate machine    |***
	***|I am human- I have the power to realize my dream,    |***
	***|I am human- an automaton -a mindless 'technoslave',  |***
	***|I am human- I am servant to the monsters I have made.|***
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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Motley Crue?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:36:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.214819.9499@ac.dal.ca> rtousi@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Hi 
>  This is my first post so Forgive my stupididy. Does anyone know when the new
>Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee, and that new lead singer(I refuse to call them
>Motley Crue.) will realease a new album. Also Whats Vince Niel up to 
>                                  THanks


	Is this flame bait?  Sure looks like it to me.  If you didn't post this
as flame bait and ever bother to read this newsgroup again.  A word of advice:
you can listen to Motley Crue on your own time, but this group ISN'T the place
to post anything about them.  Personally, I remember enjoying their first two
albums quite a bit when they first came out, so I'll not be one to judge anyone
else's listening preferences.  Just be kind to both yourself and the rest of
us and don't ask about "poser"/"glam" bands in this area.

Awaiting the apocalypse,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
                                                     __   __            
                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
                                                    \__.-._\          ``
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Selling out
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:36:26 GMT

In article <Bz3vt2.GBM@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>
>	Seeing as the subject of bands that have sold out has popped up once
>more (thanx Pope!), I thought it would be appropriate to post the lyrics from
>"Stabbed In The Back", a great song by one of my favourite bands, Razor.  Not
>too many people are aware of them, as they're Canadian, and American exposure
>is tough to get for Canucks (which is the subject of another of their tunes,
>American Luck!).  In any case, read the lyrics and tell me what you think.
>
>Stabbed In The Back
>===================
>
>The metal scene has gone to piss
>Boneheads lead the way
>Playing fast because it's in
>And then they go away
>Instead of kicking major butt
>They start to slow it down
>Bringing back the 70's
>I hate these fucking clowns
>
>You sold us out without a doubt
>You changed your future plans
>You played the game you've got your fame
>And your phony fans
>
>The pinhead movement loves their songs
>These bands can do no wrong
>And then they come to me and say
>"Why can't YOU write good songs?"
>I hate to be so arrogant
>Don't like to call them names
>But money is their only goal
>My songs remain the same
>
>All the bands I used to like are going down the drain
>What the hell has happened here, have they gone insane?
>I used to think that heavy bands ignored the current trends
>But once they've been in Rolling Stone you learn about your friends
>
>They never sound the same again, they claim that they progress
>But I just think it's writer's slump that wins them their success
>The majors spend big money, the audience is blind
>While Razor plays it heavier and leaves the scum behind
>
>We've all been stabbed in the back
>
>
>
>	I think that pretty much sums up a lot of people's sentiments about the
>whole thing.  If this song piques your curiosity, pick up their Shotgun Justice
>album (1989) or better yet, their latest release, Open Hostility.  I must warn
>you, their album covers are low-budget and cheesy, but you know what they say
>about judging a book by its cover ...
>
>Society our enemy, the rules which we must fight ...
>						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>                                                     __   __            
>                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
>                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
>                                                    \__.-._\          ``
>

Yeah, but they would do it too if they got the chance. So would you, probably.
the money involved can be mindboggling!

Razor obscure? Really? I bought their first thing for the cover, then
"Evil Invaders" and I have been a serious fan ever since!
"Malicious Intent" was a let down, but they are back in force!
Pax
					--Judex--

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From: chl@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Carsten Lechte)
Subject: Re: Re: Arrrrrrrrgh!
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:57:24 GMT


> In article <Bz2D8v.KoF@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
> >wasn't for Sweet Child O' Mine, they NEVER would have made it so big.  But once
> >they did, they started putting out crap, aiming for the commercial audience.
> >ALL bands will do this, no matter HOW heavy they are.  Just look at Slayer.
> >Reign In Blood was amazing and got people talking about them big time.  What
> >happened?  South of Heaven.  An ok album, but a minor sellout to the die hard
> >fans.
> >                                                 Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>
> But if you really want to see the difference, just compare the two
> bands Metallica and Slayer on their latest tours.  I went to see
> Metallica because I expected them to go back to their roots preforming
> live.  What did I get?  A bunch of motherfuckers acting like they went
> to the Warrant school of live performances.  Their little "routines"
> on stage made me want to heave( if you saw them you'll know what I'm
> talking about).

???? I saw them 3rd December in Germany, and I know _not_ what you are
talking about. Compared to the Justice Tour, the only difference was that
they played too many songs of the black album (4 or 5) during the 160
minute show. But the rest was pure MetallicA, as far as I was concerned
(hell, I haven't even recovered yet:-)

> They used to just play songs, but now it seems they
> feel compelled to fuck around like the other glam rocking faggots.
> Fuck 'em.

Wherewhathowwhy??

> On Slayer's tour (Season in the Abyss) they simply played music.
> It was 2 hrs. of unleashed fury not 8 minute spurts of play acting.

I did not notice any "play acting".
James, on the other hand, noticed, that we (~8000 people) liked the "ol'
shit" better.

One caveat though: there was no support group:-( (not that there would have
been any energy left for one).

This concert is another reason to wait for their next album before
bemoaning the loss of a good band to eMptyV.

> Raj

--
Viele Gruesse, Carsten Lechte.
D-W-2000 Norderstedt, Germany | chl@mcshh.hanse.de

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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater ???????????????????
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:50:33 GMT

In article <naam.724101588@terra.cecer.army.mil> naam@cecer.army.mil (Ramez Naam) writes:
>cthomas@npal.rn.com writes:
>
>>	I have the Dream Theater CD.  I am not sure from your comment if you've
>>heard much of their stuff or not but the album is pretty good.  The music
>>is a progressive heavy-metal sort of like Fates Warning, actually a lot like
>>Fates Warning with better vocals.  Overall the album is light and jazzy
>>with a few heavy Metallica style rythms.  If you like Fates Warning you'll
>>love Dream Theater
>
>Having just bought the album, I'd describe it as a mix between Queensryche
>and Rush, with vocals reminiscent of Styx, and the occasional Metallica
>riff.
>--
>Ramez Naam
>naam@terra.cecer.army.mil

the Rush influence can be summed up in two or three words: Odd time signatures.

Every time a band uses one, the are accused of sounding like Rush. 
Pretty funny if you ask me.
About like the days when Queensryche and Fates Warning were accused of
outright cloning Iron Maiden.

Bahahahahahahaha!
Pax
					--Judex--
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Skyclad fans?
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:39:02 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Dec18.094520.10385@cs.ruu.nl>, spschure@cs.ruu.nl (Sjoerd Schurer) writes:
> How many Skyclad fans are here on the net?

Well, how many people posted to say, "Skyclad is better than Manowar!"?

There's two fans at this address (won't be an address here much longer though).

--Semhaza
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Subject: black sabbath tour 1993
From: mcsdc1rs@dct.ac.uk
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:59:46 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

hello moshers i am in the wrong group

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:46:05 GMT

>>
>	I don't think Bruce can ever do the Di'anno songs as well and vice-
>versa.  Murders in the Rue Morgue is still best when done by Di'anno.

"Vice Versa"? Now THAT is a superb Dickinson song. I've got it on a comp. and
a live version on LIVE AT READING '81. Samson was at its best IMHO when
Dickinson was in the band. Di'anno never sang "Vice Versa." What are you
talking about? <|-)=
>
>
philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Newer Black Sabbath
Date: 10 Dec 92 18:46:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <ByzvDF.M35@math.uwaterloo.ca> amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes:
>	Born Again had Ian Gillan (of Deep Purple fame), Seventh Star featured
>Glen Hughes.  The one thing I especially enjoy about Born Again is Gillan's
>vocals.  In my opinion, Gillan has NEVER sounded so good before or after this
>album.  His vocals just shred on this one.  He really belts it out.
>

I agree! I think even sabbath has never sounded so heavy before or after
this album.Incredible match of sabbath and gillan


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Snake Charmer
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:47:22 GMT

I just got this demo by a band called Snake Charmer.
This is the best demo I have heard, and I'm still only on the first song.
Singer sounds like a mix of Geoff Tate and James LaBrie, I guess, it's hard to
tell. He also plays guitars and keyboards.  Name Ray Furtivo.
Bassist Victor Rossi sounds pretty good. As does Mark Simko, the drummer.
Song list is
	Fools
	Shadows Of The Damned
	When There's Nothing Left
	Straightjacket
	Modern Psych

Very progressive sound, I guess. Power metallish here and there. Actually, it
has a slight NWOBHM sound to it, but I can't place it. It's really good, if
any of you run across it.

Better review after I've heard it all.

philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:20:03 GMT


>>>
>>>And yeah, what kinda blues???
>>>I don't like blues either...
>>>
>>Actually, some blues I like. Danzig, Samson, the once in a while when bands do
>
>I dunno abt DANZIG but what kinda blues does SAMSON play? Is it blues?
>It's between hard rock and NWBHM  and no other shit.

Well, the stuff that they did with Dickinson was much more heavy metal than
blues, but after he left, I hear a bit of blues stuff that's more prominent.
SURVIVORS was very bluesy, I think, especially "Big Brother," "Wrong Side Of
Time," and "Koz." The solos give it away. With Nicky Moore, it just seemed a
lot more blues, at least on the singles and excerpts I have (most from 
AFTER THE STORM and DON'T GET MAD GET EVEN). If you have "Riding With The
Angels," "Bright Lights," "Tomorrow Or Yesterday" or "Vice Versa" with Moore
singing them they're a lot more blues than when Dickinson did. It seems that
way to me.

>Black Sabbath MOVED away from blues. They almost killed blues in their
>entire msic that's why they turned all this shit upside down!
>I don't hear any blues in Iron Man or Paranoid.WarPigs has a bit in solo parts.
>
How about in the solo of "Iron Man"? It's not straight blues, but you can hear
the influences.
>
>Leonid,
>             
>              Boston,
>
philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
From: bn@mndcrme.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:21:14 GMT
Organization: Operation Mindcrime
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

BogusMan (donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu) wrote:
:
: Janick is no Adrian Smith, but he seems to have a way of kicking the rest
: in the butt! Never saw a band be that tight and have so much fun fucking
: around on stage, without missing a note!
:

    Hmm, I always liked Dave Murray's style much better  than  Adrian's.  I
guess it was just more 'clean cut'. Just watching  that  man  play  on  the
"Live After Death" home vid brings arthritis to my fingers. :-)

    Speaking of Mr. Smith, what has he been up to, since he left Maiden?  I
know that he formed some sort of band and toured clubs, but that was  3  or
so years ago, and I haven't heard anything of him since.

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From: aharder@jarthur.claremont.edu (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: NEW : QUESTION BEST VOICE
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:14:28 GMT

Don't forget Bobby Ellsworth for Overkill... he along with Philip Anselmo
for Pantera have voices that go really well with their music...

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From: luxo@titan.ucc.umass.edu (The Supreme Oyster)
Subject: Re: Who is in Temple of the Dog told within.
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:58:53 GMT

In article <11DEC199207381031@jane.uh.edu> math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>Somebody posted wanting to know who was in Temple of the Dog and how
>Soundgarden fit in with Pearl Jam. Temple of the Dog was written as a
>tribute to Andrew Wood, the lead singer of Mother Love Bone, who died of
>drug over dose. Chris Cornell (SG) was a good friend of Wood, and also 
>brought in the drummer from SG, Matt Cameron for the sessions. PJ wasn't
>a band at the start of the TOTD sessions, but Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament
>who were members of MLB, and later went on to form PJ. Also Mike McCready
>joined them for the sessions as did Eddie Vedder for a guest vocal on
>"Hunger Strike". I believe sometime soon after the TOTD, PJ formed as
>a band.


good summary, just a couple of little points to add:

 - chris cornell was also andrew wood's roommate
 - eddie vedder did vocals on more than just "hunger strike" on the TOTD
   album.  he did back-ups or co-leads on 1/3 to 1/2 of the songs (don't
   remeber exactly how many off the top of my head)


while we are on the subject, does anyone have a list of all the mother love
bone recordings available?  i have _shine_ and the new-ish 19 song compilation,
and i am looking everywhere for a copy of _apple_.  is there anything else?

-luxo-
From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: New Scorpions???
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:46:48 GMT
Organization: Case
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63535.student.cwru.edu

In article <1ggu4uINNlnf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney) writes:
>From: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
>Subject: New Scorpions???
>Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:13:34 GMT
>I want to know if anyone has *any* information on any Scorpions  
>projects,recordings, etc.  It has been around two years since Crazy World  
>was released, so I'm sort of getting restless for some more "Six-String  
>Sting"!!!
>


     Back around the end of the summer I heard that the tour was over, and
also (sadly) that Francis B. was out of the band.  At the same time they
were supposed to be working on the next album.  I don't have any reason
to believe that this info is not true, so they are probably in the middle
of writing/recording and working out a replacement.


dk
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