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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
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>Combining chocolate and cinnamon is common in Mexican cooking - Mexico
>Mexican cooking as opposed to TexMex cooking - isn't it?

        Sure is, Doris.  Particularly in the classic 'mole poblano' -- chicken
        (or more authenticly New World, turkey) with chocolate-chili sauce.

        If I'm not mistaken, this is the exception to Judith's rule of cooking:

                there is no dish than cannot be improved by either chocolate or
                garlic, but not both.

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C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S


                                 A L E C


doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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>> Is there an explanation for this phenomenon?
>
>Probably.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Don't let Natalie fool you; she doesn't know a thing
about this. The only answer is: there is or isn't.

tushar
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:10:16 CST Kish said:
>Evelyn:
>
>It was some 8pm ish, many many moons ago once, and I was driving rather
>aimlessly, with seat belts on mind you, through the dry streets of
>Riverside in California, when with a major intersection just a few
>half-a-minutes away, my car went cold, very very cold, with all the
>red lights in the car in unison with the red lights at the intersection,
>a crowded intersection twas, but almost lazily then, my car which I
>(this is true) had named Street Car Named Desire rolled to a gliding
>stop and I was yes stranded in middle of the cutting intersection,
>in middle of the nowhere, in middle of the island.
>
>Regards, Kish.

ps: It is 6pm plus lots of additional minutes, I am tired, and all finished,
    and hence this dumb explanation, apology continues:
    The above message was meant to be addressed to Anne but I typed in
    Evelyn because just before typing the above, I read a message by
    Evelyn. This sorry beat-up explanation continues...
    I suppose, Evelyn said she was a math major caught me off guards..
    This dumb explanation ends and my apologies to both Evelyn and Anne.
    Now I am ready to go home to my very own island.
    Goodbye, friendly words-l group!
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>I absolutely agree with Doris's sentiments about "no form letter"
>recommendation.  If the person is worth writing a recommendation for, then
>you ought to tailer your recommendation to that person.  That is one reason
>i disliked the "courage of his convictions" phrase.  Other useless phrases
>are:  "One of the most valuable assets...", "....brings great honor on...",
>and one I really detest "..last, but not least..".  I've always wanted to
>say "Excuse me, if this person is not least, which one of the others was?"

        I agree, Don.  I haven't had the <pleasure> of writing recs, but I read
        lots of them in my capacity as a member of our school's admissions
        committee.  I tend to ignore about 90% of the recommendations, because
        they are so obviously boiler-plate.  Also, in most cases the person is
        the best thing since sliced bread -- any form letter that says less
        than wonderful things about the student tells me that this applicant is
        probably dogmeat (sorry, Bernard, it's just a catch-phrase).

        Not that we *reject* them for being dogmeat...

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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1992, ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU wrote:

> >I find it interesting that you read what I said as referring to lessening
> >vitality and femininity, especially since I never mentioned either.
>
> I didn't mean to imply you did.  This was part of my general rant, since
> these are qualities generally (and falsely) associated w/ aging for women.

Ah.

> >And it shouldn't be
> >marred by insulting hang-ups about the perfectly respectable word "old."
>
> Hmph!  The respectability of this word seems to me to depend on which side
> of 40 (or 50!) one lies.

This could be (in two weeks I will become closer to 50 than halfway for
the first time), but Judith Martin believes the same way I do and she's
54.  So for what that's worth... :)

> Karen

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
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>It seems surprising to me that Tushar does not apprehend my appreciation of
>the significant differences between the personalities (or personae, if
>Tushar prefers) of Ruth and Bekka.  Pardon me for not realizing that
>Tushar had realized as early as Feb. 6, 1991 the nature of words-l
>communication.  He recently posted a message that caused me to
>believe him a recent initiate, courtesy of Ruth.

My recollection if that ancient message is now imperfect, but I suggest that
I was merely repeating my long-held convictions about the nature of words-l
communication, and courageously.

It seems remarkable to me that Marty is surprised at the kind of lack of
apprehension on my part which he himself possesses in much greater quantity.

tushar
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Alec Plotkin                    30           0           0
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or 0.0155239 % of the list over the last 47 days.

later

alec
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              17 Nov 1992 10:07:00 EST from
              <CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:07:00 EST <CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> said:
>learned at the altar of Words-l: all our messages are "just random
>thought patterns late at night."  It has taken Tushar years to come to
>the same understanding.

   I didn't realize that tushie realized or understood that.....
are you sure he does?   I'm sure he'll tell us, if he hasn't already....

>difficult to take.  What about their great songs like "Boys want sex in the
>morning,"  "Fat boys,"  "Don't put it in your mouth," "Penis envy,"
>(which has the great culminating line "If I had a penis, I'd still be a girl,
>but I'd make much more money and conquer the world."), and "We're only in
>it for the children."

   Thanks Marty....agreed fully.....the don't put it in your mouth is
just wonderful.....and it is relevant today since I spent three hours
last nite teaching Criminal Justice majors in a class on Sex Crimes about
pornography....passing it around the room, showing some excerpts from
videos, etc.....they did real well....and were amazingly liberal and
didn't find it offensive or a putdown to women....(most of the class members
were women)......but the prof, an ex-cop, was another case.......
                                                                 dan
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>When I have time today, I am going to repost *ts*' dumb
>version of Hamlet's speech,

It not my version. Be careful.

>wacketies so that, *finally*, he and others on this list
>will understand the true implications of those cute litte
>crooked signs.   I am getting <sick> and <tired> of everyone's
>using them incorrectly, blatantly distorting the spirit of
>my experiment  in tonality and intonation.

I am looking forward to it, of course, but let me say right
here that using them just to bracket long noun phrases is
cheapening them. About people using them incorrectly, you
are right.

>And, as for the totally *stupid* program that *ts* wrote for
>the class assignment, it is really <hilarious>, I must admit,
>but it cannot think for itself, as some of us wordslers can
>do at times.

I beg your pardon. It can think for itself much more than
wordslers.

tushar
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Greetings,

In truth, this typical Wooster behavior (that is, as nearly as I can
parse Tushar's rambling post) is *very* Jeeves-like.  Jeeves is not
at all above risking a little on a speculative venture.  In fact, it is
rather a chronic pattern of Jeeves's.

Marty
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ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
> Ditto for anyone else who will be in/near Los Angeles the Tuesday before
> Thanksgiving.  karsten@netcom.com will provide details of our get-together
> with Emily.

Yes, I've finally called the restaurant.  If anybody else will be
in the LA area tomorrow (Tuesday) evening send me mail or give me
a call.  We'll be eating at 8:30 in Manhattan Beach.

> And of course there will a report afterwards!

Aren't people still waiting for the photograph/GIF from our last dinner?

--karsten

(I want to see if my eyes were glowing red)
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....decided...
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Subject:      Re: Second Greenish Message (to: Ken, Don, Anne, Evelyn,
              wordsmiths..)
              16 Nov 1992 17:15:12 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:15:12 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>
>Funny, I had expected the List Hoser. . . er, um ..Dowser to go for the bate.
>
>;-}
>
>-Mka

You forgot that I'm a math major; I'm used to discrete structures. :)

Evelyn
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I...
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See! ..what I have been telling you all along.  The great headless chicken

survey I conducted last year was such a high-water mark of achievement in

the annals of WORDS-L that it is being repeated!  Allright!!!!!!!!

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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*** Resending note of 11/16/92 11:22
To:           DON MOORE <DBFABAK@CFRVM.BITNET>
>Tony, did you ever see _The Right Stuff_?  What sperm motility had
>to do with space flight still escapes me.  Does anyone here know
>what the NASA doctors had in mind?

Makes you wonder what kind of space experiments have taken place in
recent years.....
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 20 Nov 92 04:41:48 GMT
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In article <Pine.3.03.9211180827.A20239-a100000@formby.tenet.edu> harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
>On Tue, 17 Nov 1992, Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) wrote:
>
>> Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.  No, I don't know
>> what it's supposed to do.
>
>Down here, it's commonly used to seize the houses, cars, boats, etc. of
>drug dealers. If they can prove that anything was bought with the proceeds
>of drug trading, away it goes. I think that RICO has also been used to
>bust computer hackers, right, Jim? (I'm thinking of a case where a BBS was
>seized because it was connected to a stolen modem.)

Most BBS seizures that I'm aware of have been confiscated for
evidentiary purposes. Although the threat has been invoked against "hackers,"
to my knowledge it hasn't been used (yet) in any hacker federal hacker
cases. There's a thin line between "forfeiture" (meaning you lose the stuff)J
and "confiscation" (meaning that you might get it back eventually). In
lay-speak, there's not that much difference in hacker cases, because the
equipment is generally held indefinitely and it often costs far more to
get it back than stuff is worth. In Operation Sun Devil in '90, very little
stuff was returned even though folks were never indicted.
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>>Maryine GUILLOT                 92
>
>        Wasn't that 'Martine (from France)'?

Of course it's her. This is the one name which gave me nightmares - I mean
every time I did a review, there it was, with the 'y' in it, month in, month
out ... never a correction ...

I think someone else has taken her place now.



>>Hope Greenberg                  26
>
>        Her ID at UVM was 'HAG'.  Should she be invited to the croning
>        ceremony?

She has a three month old kid. Don't ask me how I know - I don't know her,
it's just some damn thing I somehow know, I'd give anything to know just
how I know.



>>Charles Michel Boucher         430
>
>        Another Canadian.

His name will also appear in another email a short time from now. Stand by.



>>MACGYVER@INDYCMS               254
>
>        Before he became MacPhil, he was MacGyver.

I have never figured one thing out - who on earth is/was Phil? Phil Paxton.
IS it a dangerous question to ask? Does Don know anything about him?



>>"Virupaksha Mokshagundam"        8
>
>        No comment needed.

Undoubtedly the classiest eight letters written to the list in that period.


tushar
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From:         Theresa Wild <TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU>
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>Wow, mine doesn't either. Is this a Providence thing? A little Rhody one? Some
>Federal Hill scam gone astray? Were they all on deposit in uninsured credit
>unions? Go figure.

Well, mine has 20, a dozen plus the 8pack  and the frig is old! have
to defrost every 2 months :(

Theresa
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        "Colin Manning"                  2           0           0       23,493.
76

Wel well well.  I'm interviewing him for a job in a few weeks.  What did
he post here, can you remember?

G
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I hope the absence of Gleanings doesn't mean Akio is having difficulties
or an illness or a typhoon.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Greetings,

No, Ruth, I lack any desire to excell at jigsaw puzzles.  I may have
*revealed* something to your keen analytical mind, but I didn't *volunteer*
anything.  I'm sure your skills at word games are very difficult to
measure.

Marty
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> What's the deal with this list lately? Volume is way off.

I've been busy.
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      "pidgin"
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I just remembered that I was going to reply to the question about the
origin of the term "pidgin" but wanted to wait until I was in my office
because I couldn't remember how to spell the various source words that
have been suggested.

Probably the theory given most often is the one that's already been
mentioned:  Chinese pronunciation of English "business."  Other theories
are that it was not English "business" that the Chinese were attempting
to pronounce but was instead Portuguese "occupacao" (or business).
Some say it's from the pronunciation of English "beach" as "beachee"
in the South Seas.  And some that it's from Hebrew "pidjom" (trade).
One not-widely-accepted theory is that it's from Yago "pidian" (people).
And another is that it's from the Chinese characters pei and ts'in
(paying money).

Bottom line:  Nobody knows for sure where the word came from.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> I can't.  I have no idea whatsoever of the perceived attributes of Leos.

Just imagine my mother.

-abh
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              19 Nov 1992 19:19:16 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>Brad, Brad, Brad.  How can our esteemed list scribe not realize that
>those funny translations (plus others) have been in list ftp space since
>the very beginning of list ftp space.  They're in docs/words-l/Funnies.
>Filename is translations.

   I was just getting into the spirit of Recycling Week.       --brad
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In article <Pine.3.03.9211200408.A21307-8100000@abernathy.tenet.edu> harwood@TENET.EDU (Nancy Harwood) writes:
>>
>> Maybe Clinton will do what LBJ did when asked about his war wounds.
>>
>> On Larry King.
>
>I thought that was LBJ's gall bladder scar.
>ndh

You're right, but it comes to the same--just another theater of operations
sliced up by the Drs knife.... 
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> Y O U
>
>          H A V E
>
>                   S U C C E E D E D

Coming from *you*, sis, that is a <complement>.
--ggs (your bad brother...)
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