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From: leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu
Subject: Re: Is StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 available now?
Originator: leonardr@diddley.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:53:55 GMT

In article <67830007@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, rterry@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Ray Terry) writes:
>> 
>> >	At MacWorld Boston (Aug. 3) we will be releasing StuffIt Deluxe 3.0,
>> >which includes StuffIt SpaceSaver (our new transparent compressor) at which
>> >time we will also be rasing the price to $125.00 (mail order about 70-80).
>> >
>> >	If you purcahse StuffIt Deluxe 2.0 between now and then (or anytime
>> >since last August) you will be entitled to a free software upgrade (+ some
>> >shipping & handling).
>> 
>> What about an upgrade for existing SD 2.0 owners?
>> 
	The Upgrade price for people who purchase StuffIt Deluxe prior to
Aug. 1991, will be $25 (plus some shipping & handling).

>> Can we buy SD 3.0 w/o SpaceSaver?  I don't need or want SpaceSaver since I'm
>> a very happy AutoDoubler/DiskDoubler/Sigma-Hardware user.  I assume we can
>> get SD 3.0 w/o paying for SpaceSaver?????
>
	Nope.  StuffIt Deluxe will ALWAYS come with SpaceSaver.  We consider
Deluxe the "Complete Compression Solution", in that it includes not only 
archival compression but also transparent compression.  There are also all
of the tools that you are faimiliar with and a bunch of new ones!
	
	We will also be selling SpaceSaver separately for users who don't
need the full archival compression that Deluxe provides (SpaceSaver offers
some simple archival compression however).  SpaceSaver (which also includes
our Magic Menu & StuffIt Engine products) will list for $59.95, with a 
street price of about $35.  (this is US, no Matt I don't know how much it
will be in teh UK ;).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Juha Pirttil{ <juha@skynet.oulu.fi>
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:07:51 GMT



In article <1992Jul24.131236.4307@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Sang J. Moon, 
smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:

>You have never rebuilt your desktop in system 7 so you don't know
>what you are talking about.  As far as I know, there is no modifier
>key you can hold down in System 7 to rebuild the desktop.  I received
>an extension from someone which allows me to automatically delete
>the desktop FILE on startup.  Since you have never rebuilt a desktop
>file, you do not know how long it takes.  I have 75MB of stuff, and
>it definitely takes a very long time for it to finish.  If you really
>want it, I'll even time it for you.

Have you ever tried holding option and command keys down when 
rebooting ???? During the startup the Mac asks if you want to
rebuild the desktop. I don't think it takes too long. I just
timed it. Rebuild took excactly 3 minutes 14 seconds. I have a
422 MB hard disk and I think on a 75 MB HD it must take much 
shorter time.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: Powerbook, Price Club, pricing
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:56:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Regarding marbles for the PowerBook 100:

I bought a large bag of marbles, figuring at least one would work.
They were all much worse than the lightweight ball, mostly because
of imperfections (is it my imaginations or were marbles made better
30 years ago?).

I've decided to look into 25mm steel ball bearings. They ought to be very
smooth and very heavy (perhaps too heavy?).

I'll report my results.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Autodoubler needs Diskdoubler?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:38:13 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

Is it true that in order to run Autodoubler I need to buy Diskdoubler?
I was planning on buying Autodoubler, but Diskdoubler will double the
price!  What is the difference between the two?  Is Diskdoubler sufficient
to claim back disk space?  Thanks for any tips,
	-Kristen

k_lepa@unhh.unh.edu
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: system7 on classic
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I recently put sys 7.0 on my classic, so hopefully I can help you.  

>I have downloaded the system7 images from
>ftp.apple.com and unstuffed them. they are
>now sitting on my hard drive still with the
>..image form. I don't understand how to
>get them on floppies without the .image, 

what you want to do is download diskcopy from ftp.apple.com.  Those .image 
files are data files diskcopy uses to create copies of disks.  

>The 1400K images do not fit on my 1400K 
>disk. So i tried putting the 800K images
>on them which worked but it was still not
>in a form i could boot. the FAQ say something
>about diskcopy. what am i missing.
> 
Once you download diskcopy, you can load the .image files and create 
system disks.  These must be 1440 K floppies if you have the 1440 k .images.
Once this is done, trash the .images, and boot from the system disks,
install the new software.

>also when i get this to work will i have to
>start from scratch on the hard drive i.e. have
>everything on backup and put it all back on.

You shouldn't have to, although I did because I had a hard disk problem.
You should check your hard disk with disk first aid and perhaps Norton
Disk DOctor or something like that, to make sure you don't have problems.
You should also make sure you download sys7 tuner 1.1.1, and install it,
or you _will_ have problems.  

Overall, sys 7 has been a good experience, although copying floppies is
a _slow_ proposition. 
______________________________________________________________________________
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From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:15:18 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <ajross.711766311@husc9>, ajross@husc9.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross) writes:
> 
> Calling me a hypocrite is not exactly the most tactful way to respond
> here.  Please grow up.
> 

This is an example of tact?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols)
Subject: Trouble w/Mac file downloaded to a PC
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:00:49 GMT


Is it possible to download a file to a PC and then use PC exchange to use it
on a mac?  I can't figure it out and I thought I was pretty savvy.  It's a
.sit file that I downloaded to a PC.  I actually first tried a program
called Mac-In-DOS to write it to a Mac disk.  Stuffit couldn't do anything
with it so I messed around with ResEdit to change the creator and type to
match a pre-existing .sit file.  No luck.  I heard there is a program called
MacBinRecover for this purpose but I can't find it at Sumex or Umich.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Sarek@world.std.com (Garrett Fitzgerald)
Subject: LaserWriter splash page hack?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:02:09 GMT

I seem to remember a PostScript program posted a while ago that told
LaserWriters not to print that page at powerup. Can someone mail it to
me, if it does in fact exist? Thanks.
From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser ><>  )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Product reviews on Compuserve, AOL, Prodigy, etc?
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:43:57 GMT


Hi all,

Does anyone know if the commercial on-line services like CI$, AOL,
etc have product reviews or new product announcements?  Either
advertisement style or unbiased reviewer style?  Not just casual
reviews, like we have here, but, say, a forum for new copmuter products
and packages?

(Email replies please, probably not much interest to others)

Thanks a bunch,
Nate

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From: mackd@vccsouth13.its.rpi.edu (Mack)
Subject: Mac stuff BUYING
Reply-To: mackd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:23:18 GMT

Looking for:
Mac IIci new or used
13" color monitor new or used
extended keyboard new or used
Keningston trackball new or used


		-Mack


Posted for a offline friend.  please reach through this e-mail address.
Please forgive all spelling. It is Saturday morning.



Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:14133 alt.config:4948
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:14:43 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Harry_Noel@wtgdir.UUCP (Harry Noel) writes:
> > >                       The point is obviously "many people at various site
> > > can't get alt groups," which is clearly true.
> > 
> > Not really.  If you ask around hard enough, it's possible to find someone
> > who's willing to mail you alt groups.  Unless your system administrator
> > restricts your mail access or screens your incoming mail, it's always
> > possible to get any alt group.
> 
> If the Newton group is setup as an alt.whatever, would you be kind
> enough to forward it to me?  I just asked the admin here and he says
> that we cannot receive any alt groups.

It's wasteful for me to mail it to you, as that means the traffic goes twice
across the international links.  However, if your admin wants a UUCP feed of
any alt groups we get, I might be able to arrange it.  But I'm sure you'll
find better places to get your alt groups from.


mathew
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Fall Mac products
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:55:21 GMT
Distribution: na

Has anyone heard what type of Mac systems are due out this fall?

What kind of price range is expected?

Flip


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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:23:07 MDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: PMMV for LCII?
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: gaow@bones.et.byu.edu (Jinsong Gao)

Hi, guys.  I have a question to ask those hardware experts on the net.  I
remember reading that to use more than 8 meg of mwmory on LCII, a PMMV card
is required. (I may be mistaken, but just want to make sure.) Now what exactly
is a PMMV card?  How do I install it if I needed one?  

Please help. I just bought a pair of 4 meg simms (not yet installed).  

Thanks for any help.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:13815 comp.sys.mac.apps:12440
From: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: NEEDED: Recommendations!
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:43:47 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: na
Reply-To: sichase@csa2.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

In article <flowers.712108478@delphi.bio.caltech.edu>, flowers@caltech.edu (Dave Flowers) writes...
>>mnc0678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.N. Cannava ) writes:
>>> 	1. Need a hierarchical apple menu. Mine's getting waaaay too
>>> 	   cluttered.
> 
>Now Menus (part of Now Utilities - commercial, but a good buy).  Combined
>with the System 7 apple menu and aliases, there's no beating it.

Now Menus is terrific.  It also has the nice feature of allowing you
to click anywhere on the desktop to get a copy of the menubar complete with
the open applications list.  This is similar to how the the GUI works on 
SparcStations.  I like it.

But there is a shareware cdev called "BeHierarchical" which will give you
the hierarchical menus for just the shareware fee.  I use it on my IIci at work.
 Unfortunately, it does *not* work on my IIci at home, presumably because of
some conflict with some init or other. I never did figure out why - just
switched to Now Menus. 

-Scott
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				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
From: warren.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: user group in south florida?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:05:48 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Does anyone know if there is a mac users group in south florida - from 
west palm beach to miami?

Thanks,
        Warren(warren.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:47:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.143921.19730@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon) writes:
] In article <14832@claris.com>, mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
] > 
] > In article <1992Jul23.143042.14243@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon) writes:
] > > The system I got was:
] > > 
] > > 386-40Mhz CPU w/64K cache
] > > 4 MB RAM
] > > 1.2MB & 1.44MB floppies
] > > 211MB IDE 15ms hard drive
] > > 1Kx768 VGA card with 1MB RAM
] > > 2400 baud internal modem
] > > 28dp non-interlaced SVGA monitor
] > > 101 enhanced keyboard
] > > high resolution mouse

Why should there even be an option for resolution?

] > > 2 serial/1 parallel/1 game ports
] > > DOS 5.0
] > > Windows 3.1
] > > printer cable (already had a printer)
] > > public domain software
] > > 
] > > for $1678.95 including tax.
] > > 
] > > If you respond to this post, please list the system you bought and
] > > how much you paid for it.  It shows what you actually have to back your

Okay, I'll chip in. I spent $4800 three years ago on a ][cx with
40mb hd, 5mb ram, 8bit color (at a time out of a 24-bit palette),
and a 13" Apple monitor. Oh, and a 1200bps modem.

At the same time, my dorm neighbor got a PS/2 with 40mb hd, 1mb ram,
8bit color (a set 256 colors), and a 12" monitor, all for ~$3000.

My computer kicked his computer's butt on number crunching, graphics,
ease of installing software (we both had to do this frequently due to
small hard drives), and ease of figuring out how to do things right
away. Whenever anyone wanted to write a paper, they'd come ask to use
my computer. When anyone wanted to do some heavy computations, they
asked for my computer. When someone wanted to look at neat gifs, they
(even the guy who owned the PS/2, since I could _read_ MS-DOS disks!)
would ask for my computer. When someone wanted to make drawings,
they'd ask for my computer.

It was easy for me to show people (anybody) just once how to use my
mac, and they could figure things out on there own from then on. Not
so for the pc. Now though my computer cost ~60% more, it was _worth_
many times more!

Anyone who thinks installing software on a pc is typically as easy as
it is on a mac is kidding themselves. There are some applications that
do take a while to install on a mac, but comparable programs usually
take even longer on a pc. Nearly every program I installed on my machine
required simply copying it from a floppy to the hard drive.

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:13735 alt.config:4877
From: gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com (Gavin Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:20:00 GMT
     <1992Jul24.141143.8363@newshost.lanl.gov>
     <1992Jul24.141236.8538@newshost.lanl.gov>
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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In article <1992Jul24.141050.8199@newshost.lanl.gov> Gavin Adams,
gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com writes:
^^^^^----- I should get a clue!

Sorry guys, Nuntius kept saying that the message wasn't posted & the news
server timed out.

--- Gavin
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From: terry@col.hp.com (Terry Thero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Apple's Address (e-mail) ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:14:22 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Hi Net,

   Does anyone have Apple's e-mail address ? Or, better yet,
   their FTP address. I would like to see what they have
   for 'QuickTime'. Would like to download it and try it.
   (I see that some of the mail order houses have 'Quick
   Time Starter Kit' from $155 to $165.).

   E-mail me, or post to this note.  THANKS!!!!

					CU
					twthero
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: un-Zip-ing
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:41:09 GMT

can I Ftp a copy from? If you have posative information on both of these,
please e-mail me, as I don't read this group. Thanks in advance,

					Anton Smirnov
From: darweesh@acsu.buffalo.edu (michael j darweesh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Laserwriter (GCC PLP II) question
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:14:11 GMT
Organization: UB


Hello, I've owned a GCC PLP II for about 1200 pages worth now. I really like
the printer, but I am starting to have a slight problem:

In particularly dense areas of printing, I get smudged-like looking output.
It happens regularly, but only in cases where there is-for instance-a
bold 18 point (or larger) helvetica M or something.
Do I just have to clean something or what?

Personal E-mail might be best...
Thanks,
-Mike
From: cowen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Cowen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Apple Menu organization
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:45:35 GMT
Organization: UB

>How do I change the order of the items in the Apple Menu.

The aliases you use for items in the Apple Menu can start with blanks or other
characters (such as * or !) that change the ordering.  In fact,  you can group
the Apple Menu items by putting two blank spaces before each alias for 
applications, one before utilities, etc.  Then you can separate the groupings
by creating empty files with names ********* and the appropriate number of
spaces.  Within each grouping you can use special characters to alter the
ordering.

	Mike Cowen
From: lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Is DEC history???
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:22:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: General Electric R&D

Howdy all.

I know this isn't specifically about Macs (or Apple) but considering the
amount of posturing Apple has done with DEC regarding supposed
interconnection products and so on, I thought it would be interesting to
pass this info along and get some comments on it.

DEC announced yesterday they had a loss of 1.8 BILLION dollars!!! Yeah,
that's BILLION with a 'B'. Now to IBM, that may not be the end of the
world, but how long is DEC going to survive with losses like that?

They finally convinced Ken Olsen to step aside ("PC's? Who needs PCs??"),
but is the damage already done?

I'm very interested in all of this. I don't regularly follow DEC, but this
news turned my head. Could someone who knows more about the relative
financial health of DEC care to comment? 

Do they have any new products in the works that may bring customers back to
the fold?

Just curious.

- Lorne

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From: sgc@math.ufl.edu (Scott G. Chastain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: system7 on classic
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:42:30 GMT
Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics

I am interested in putting system 7 on
my mac classic but have been having some
problems. please e-mail advice.

I have downloaded the system7 images from
ftp.apple.com and unstuffed them. they are
now sitting on my hard drive still with the
.image form. I don't understand how to
get them on floppies without the .image, 
i guess i mean in the form necessary to 
boot from them.  

The 1400K images do not fit on my 1400K 
disk. So i tried putting the 800K images
on them which worked but it was still not
in a form i could boot. the FAQ say something
about diskcopy. what am i missing.

also when i get this to work will i have to
start from scratch on the hard drive i.e. have
everything on backup and put it all back on.

thanks in advance, sgc@math.ufl.edu