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From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:24:32 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Followup-To: alt.rave
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <DAN.92Oct13120620@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
>his over-fondness for the Clash :-) , he seems like one of the few
>sincere rock critics out there.  I mean, this guy played in actual
>bands for years, which places him quite a few notches above the boring
>critics out there.  
>

And as the pround owner of the L. Bangs '77 7inch "Let It Blurt",
i can report that it contains the seminal line:

Bitch bitch bitch, the beggar wan't mine

All in all, its a fairly chaotic little number
note that the UK's answer to L.Bangs (Charles Shaar Murray) also
had his band Blast Furnace And The Heatwaves
and Mick Farren (a la Oz etc) turns out a pretty funky line in SF novels

dr doom the optimist


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From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:51:00 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Oct8.180211.4469@osf.org>, rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew R writes...
>He later made amends, of course, and acknowledged KOTJ's rightful
>place in history as one of the greatest albums ever made.

I listened to a lot of music during the time and I can remember my friends 
and I agreeing that KOTJ and MC5 were so bad that it was amazing that they 
landed a recording contract. 

Mike McCurdy			Disclaimer:
VAX Systems Management		     
San Diego State University		"Everything I say may be wrong."
mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu  	
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Richard W Rackham)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: different SHAMEN
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:50:49 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mr. G. Pickering (pickerig@dns0.bham.ac.uk) wrote:
: Does anybody know where I can get this new Shamen EP in Birmingham, there
: are loads of record shops, but if I could get a name (preferably in town
: if poss) it would save time.

Dunno about Brum, but HMV and Virgin in London had loadsacopies.  Prices varied
- I got my CD for 4 quid at a local Our Price, but saw it for sale at HMV for
over five pounds for the CD (and 4 quid for the 12").  Also check the NME -
there were a couple of ads from records shops selling it.

Tracks on the 12" and CD are the same for a change.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.is.too
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Song structure
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.151000.14945@aston.ac.uk>
heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Henegan) writes:
>
>Haven't you yet realised that rave music follows the same old four-beat
>structure with the same old instruments?
 
No, it does not.
 
 
--Eric
 
thelookthefeelthesoundofmyvoicethelookthefeelthesoundofmyvoicethelookthe
feelthesoundofmyvoice   eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  thelookthefeelthesound
ofmyvoice    Detroit, Michigan  USA   thelookthefellthesoundofmyvoicethe
From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: someone please clarify this...
Date: 14 Oct 1992 13:36:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu




>Sterling Void's "It's Alright" (yes Neil Tenant copped 
>it from Sterling) is *my* prototypical deep house track. 

Yes!, a great track, but also check out Sterling Void's 
"Runaway Girl," or even pre-acid Tyree, for that matter. 
I picked up an excellent deep house comp on DJ Inter-
national in NY in '89, and I still listen to it with some 
frequency. This stuff has *nothing* to do with Ce Ce
or Crystal Waters!

>The current preservers of the garage legacy are Tony 
>Humphries and The Basement Boys.

Humphries spun at Smart Bar in Cleveland two weeks ago. 
The records he played were surprisingly varied, ranging 
from tribal-sounding stuff, garage, older Detroit techno 
and even a little bit of trance. Nothing faster than 125 bpm!



-- 
      b t 1 7 8 @ c l e v e l a n d . F r e e n e t . E d u
From: johnsonsusan@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: <None>
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:51:53 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I want to know about raves here too but is that possible?  This is Iowa.  
We need to find a group of people to go to Chicago.  Do you agree?   sue

Xref: sparky alt.rave:3882 rec.music.misc:25335 alt.music.alternative:12812
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What's this upcoming _Orbital Dance: Best Of Orbit_ compilation?
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:42:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bw4EEw.CBE
Organization: Rice University

In article <1bgn6nINNqvb@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>BTW, if you like William Orbit's stuff check out React 2 Rhythm's album 
>"Whatever You Dream" - spacey, housy, not really techno, but very cool,
>trademark William Orbit _sound_.  Has anyone heard D.O.P.?  It's also on
>Guerrilla and sounds promising.

i don't know about the rest of the album, but the react 2 rhythm track off
that twitch comp (i think it was called 'whatever you dream' as well) has
been a big rave track here in houston for the past month and a half or so...
great song (and great remix).

yours,m
Xref: sparky alt.rave:3766 rec.music.cd:6869 rec.music.misc:24936
From: borst@circle.cs.jhu.edu (Scott Borst)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Summary: Kick out the JAMS!
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:15:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: blaze.1992Oct9.021547.11232
Distribution: usa
Organization: A.^.A.^.

In article <1992Oct8.212549.14118@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>In <-94-TF=@engin.umich.edu> rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:
>>Gih?  What "connection" between the MC5 and the JAMs/KLF is from the
>>Illuminati trilogy (yes, I know what JAM stands for).
>
>The Illuminati trilogy claims that the MC5 were illuminated and
>part of the JAMMS or something like that.  It's been a while since
>I read the book.
>-- 

Close. In the book, the Illuminati control a great many of the world's major
corporations, including much of the entertainment industry. Illuminati
agents in the music business commanded the MC5 to write a song that displayed
their "feelings" for the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu. "Kick out the JAMS,
motherfuckers!" The guys in the KLF/JAMS apparently read the series and decided
to play around with a few of the concepts they found inside.

Scott Borst, aka "Megadude!!"
borst@cs.jhu.edu
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:41:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

slade - here's the deal.  first of all, it's *illegal* to not let men into 
 a club.  especially when said men are friends of the band, have passes
 FROM THE BAND, and the band gets 75 cents on each card that people bring
 in.

second of all, another friend of mine (a friend of laura's, as well),
 is female.  and quite stunning.  she went with three men.  and, was
 told that it was "couples only night", same excuse as i was told.   
 so, she said "well, we are" - since two of the guys *were* a couple.
 they were told that they weren't allowed in either.

and since in all instances, everyone was dressed for the occasion, there
 was no reason not to let people in.  except for discrimination.  that's
 why i tell *everyone* who asks not to go there, because of this.  

you can support discrimination all you want, because you're a doorman,
 who "knows" how to get the women in.  well, if people boycott places
 like the limelight, this type of discrimination won't happen.

- bob gaj
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: 808 State's new single
Keywords: 808 timebomb
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:22:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

b102smi@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>   I assume you mean the TimeBomb single (TBCD 540 , TimeBomb, Nimbus, Reaper
>>Repo). TimeBomb is really good. It's more danceable and harder than EX:EL, and
>>the other tracks are more ambient, with a beat, but still incredible.
>>   Patiently awaiting their next major release...

I listened to it in a store and was very disappointed, I didn't buy it.
The past singles were much better IMHO
Paul

--
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Beloved, New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets,
Cabaret Voltaire. Excell. Cond. Also X1 as NEW $88US, $110AUS.
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From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: 808 State Discography Addition
Summary: Jon Hassell remixes...I'll keep posting it until it's acknowledged!
Keywords: 808 State disco techno Jon Hassell AMS pitch shifter trumpet
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:20:04 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


        I am going to keep posting this damned thing periodically until I get a
confirmation from someone that this has indeed been added to an online 808
State discography:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Hassell
_Voiceprint_(Blind_from_the_Facts)_

Opal Records (Warner Bros. Records, Inc.)
1990
Promotion Only -- Not for Sale
PRO-A-4301

Side One (33.3 rpm)
-------------------
Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts) (808 Mix One)                    6:37
Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts) (Radio Mix)                      4:36

Side Two (33.3 rpm)
-------------------
Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts) (808 Mix Two -- Latin in It Mix) 4:42
Streetfaxx                                                         3:57
Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts) (LP Version)                     4:42


"Streetfaxx" written by Jon Hassell
"Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts)" written by Jon Hassell and Jeff Rona

Produced by Jon Hassell
Remix by 808 State
Edits and Engineering: Massey
Executive Producer: Kevin Laffey
Nyen Music Inc. ASCAP

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jon Hassell/808 State
_Voiceprint_

Land Records
LANDT03


Side A
------
Voiceprint (808 Mix Two -- Latin in It Mix)
Voiceprint (808 Mix One)

Side B
------
Voiceprint (Blind from the Facts)



Track information for side A: Produced by Jon Hassell
                              Remix by 808 State
                              Engineering: Massey

Track information for side B: Produced by Jon Hassell


Manufactured in the United Kingdom
for further infornmation: Opal Information, P.O. 141, Leigh-On-Sea, Essex

Art: Cipher Design
Photo: Dennis Keeley
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: sl319001@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Shorten)
Subject: Raves in Midwest?
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:03:32 GMT

Hi!

I live in Indiana, which doesn't really have that much in the way of
raves and the like. Are there any rave clubs or happenings in Chicago or
Cincinnati? Info would be nice.

Thanx!

-- 
Mike Shorten              "A deranged experiment in social Darwinism,
sl319001@                 set up by a bored researcher who kept his
silver.ucs.indiana.edu    thumb permanently on the fast foward button."
                          Neuromancer - William Gibson
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From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:27:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.092600.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.062957.17320@Princeton.EDU>, ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose) writes:
>> 
>> Limelight on Tuesday is  
>> techno/industrial, but I guess you have to be screened by a panel to get in.  
>> Worthless.
>
>Since when? I can't think of a time people weren't let into Communion. I mean
>on a Tuesday night, most of the people are college kids and Westchester brats
>and it gets might empty after 2.30 AM or so. There's no selectivity though.

I personally have never had any problem with getting into the the Limelight,
but I know Bob and other male friends of his have had "experiences" with
the doorman.  This was a long while ago, if I remember correctly.

Laura
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Guerilla
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:18:01
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
	<1992Oct14.221151.9533@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk's message of 14 Oct 92 21:11:51 GMT

>>>>> "archive" == archive  <archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk> writes:
	[stuff deleted]
  archive> Heads with Let's Go! Spooky (the name of the track escapes me but if you
  archive> can afford the 12" get it 'cause the piano mix is 10 times better, their
  archive> new single also groovy). Guerilla is a very dependable label, most...

That would be Spooky "Don't Panic". A fucking fabulous track. The piano mix
is out of this world.
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.

Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Subject: Re: US Orb info
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:09:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.212948.27385@cs.com> larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.211441.128524@zeus.calpoly.edu> ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel) writes:
>>Latest info from Big Life Records in New York:
>>The initial shipment (only) of U.F.Orb to American stores will include
>>a free bonus CD featuring the 40-minute "Blue Room", a remix of
>>"Assassin", and a "Blue Room" remix by Frank DeWolfe (sp?) previously
>>unavailable anywhere.  Due in stores November 3rd.

	Can you fuckin' believe that?  $22 for UFOrb and $20 for Blue
Room and here my poorer (wiser?) friends are going to be able to pick
it all up for less than $15 dollars.  I AM NOT AMUSED.
-- 
-brian
*bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu 	  |	"Stop and breathe, close my eyes
 bhostetl@iubacs.bitnet   	  | and smell and listen...  no more cotton
 bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  | candy, no more band concerts..."
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From: oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO)
Subject: Re: MAIL ORDER Vinyl
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:42:31 GMT


In article <1992Oct13.174915.3308@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

> 
> I am looking for some good mail order
> vinyl places in Europe or the U.S.A that will accept relatively small
> orders from Australia.
> DOES ANYONE KNOW of any???
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.oz.AU   or   usr6264a@tso.uc.edu
>DJ MD (Michael Dagn) of....
>M     D     A
>Music Dance Aesthetic   Saturday Nights   10pm-2am   2RSR   88.9MHz
>----------------------------------------------------------------------M-
> 

You could try the following two UK vinyl shops:

Zoom Records
188 Camden High Street
LONDON NW1
ENGLAND

...and...

Eastern Bloc Records
Manchester
ENGLAND

(The actual address to EBR is at home, and since I'm at school right now...)

Oivind Idso (-: oivindi@sofus.dhhalden.no :-)

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From: dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:07:14 GMT

In article <1687913784.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> 
EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

>Pretty early punk, if you ask me. I don't recall anyone even using the term
>'punk' in the early '70s. BTW, the MC5 had some kind of loose affiliation with

   That's OK.
   Detroit rock radio stations that would never play the Pistols applied
   the term retroactively to any old garage-band stlye music they felt like,
   as if to justify their crappy programming practices.

Excuse me?  As Lazlo points out, Lester Bangs had been using the term
for years by the early seventies.  The first edition of the NUGGETS
compilation, which was like '72 or '73 used the term "punk rock" to
describe garage music.  My own father was in a garage band in the
early seventies called Vellocette, and he assures me that people used
the term "punk" as a formal description for these bands.

The English appropriated the term and style and then tried to take
half the credit, or all the credit depending on who and when you ask.
Great though the Pistols were, they were never as cool as the more
primal stuff by the likes of the 13th Floor Elevators. 

- Dan

"And now I'd like to play you the first hardcore (old definition -
Dan) song I ever heard" - Ed, former WZBC deejay, prior to playing
"You Really Got Me" by the Kinks. 

--
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| Dan Parmenter       |"I'm waiting for a time, when I can do without these  |
| dan@gnu.ai.mit.edu  | things that make me feel this way all of the time"   |
|                     |                            - Spiritualized           |
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From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: someone please clarify this...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:46:12 GMT

>> ...my question is this: are the terms
>> "techno" and "rave" interchangeable when referring to the tunes? i've
>> seen "techno" charts and "rave" charts posted side by side in the same
>> magazines, and have been corrected by attitude-toting record store
>> clerks
>> about my choice of terms. (clerks who, by the way, couldnt give me a
>> straight
>> answer about the difference when i asked them)  Although the idea of
>> labeling
>> something as strictly "this" or strictly "that" perturbs me, im really
>> curious
>> about this little quandry  -  help me out.  thanx.
>
>"Rave" is a term for a dance party.  "Techno" is a type of music.
>Therefore, "rave" and "techno" shouldn't be interchangeable.
>If anybody thinks I'm wrong, feel free to clarify this.

You're not wrong, but more recently "rave" has come to mean the pop fringe
of techno, the style of techno you are most likely to hear on the radio.
You know, the crowd favorites, gimmicky stuff like so-and-so is dead,
children's tv themes with a drum machine, 2 Unlimited, Apotheosis, etc.
So "a rave" and "rave" are not necessarily the same thing.  Now there's
also "to rave"...

>  Plus, I'm also
>trying to define what's "Deep House."  From what I've been hearing for
>years, deep house is disco (more oriented toward Black/soul; nothing
>like the Saturday Night Fever).  Deep house artists include First Choice,
>Gil S. Heron, and Diana Ross.  But, I've read a posting from someone
>calling CeCe Peniston's "Finally" deep house.  I don't think so. Let me
>hear what others think.

I'm the one who said that.  I'd like a good definition of "deep" house as
well.  My conception of what it is has come basically from listening to
so-called "deep house" remixes of other dance tracks.  That's how I first
learned the differences between the genres years ago... kind of pathetic
to find out about acid house from Shep Pettibone, but that's the breaks...
That's also why in the ambient FAQ I asked for someone to define deep
house for me.

There was a big argument here a few weeks ago over what "garage" is, too.
I'm still not sure what it is.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:58:39 GMT

In article <knhp7xl@lynx.unm.edu>
lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>>>> I don't recall anyone even using the term 'punk' in the early '70s.
>>> You weren't reading much Lester Bangs or _Creem_ then . . .
>> Were YOU?
>No I wasn't (I was digging in piles of dirt in the backyard, probably)...
>but I've read it since, and yes, Bangs was calling bands like Iggy and
>the MC5 "punk" back then.
 
Too bad, cuz they weren't. Iggy & the Psychedelic Stooges and the
Motor City Five didn't really consider themselves punk, and I don't
really see how Lester Bangs' opinion matters in retrospect.
 
Either way, I challenge you to find *any* references of Bangs' to "punk rock"
in Creem by or before '73. If you do, I'll send you an issue of Bomp that
I bought in '79 that still has the Police bumper sticker intact. Plus, you
like Devo, right? I'll send you a Devo bootleg album that I bought in '80.
 
If & when you come up with the Bangs-Creem-'73-Punk references, contact me
& I'll give you my fax number.
 
Heck, if you pay postage, I'll send you any '78-'81 issues of Creem that I
haven't thrown away yet!
 
How about it? You've got nothing to lose!
 
--Eric
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New York Raves/clubs requested
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:54:23 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

don't go to the limelight.  they still discriminate, from what i've heard.

go to the mission on east 5th, near alphabet city (east side), for
 techno/industrial stuff.

or, better yet, pick up a copy of the village voice when you're down in the city.  
 and go to a coupld record shops, and pick up the complimentary
 invites that are at the front of almost every shop.

- bob gaj
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