HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: How to set up smail3.1.27 with Unix waffle (was A Waffle question)
Organization: NullNet r.y.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:02:42 GMT
Keywords: Unix version (Xenix SysV), Smail-3.1.27, Waf165

In article <1993Jan20.012744.245@victrola.sea.wa.us> vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
>Here's the setup (suggestions to follow...)
>
>1. The unix hostname and waffle systemname are both victrola.sea.wa.us
>2. I use wafalias to alias the waffle-only folks via mailin (no changes)
Don't we have a possibility for a "race" situation here?
Say, you have a shell used whose login is "foo".
Then comes a BBS newuser who registrates with the username "foo".
How is this situation handled?

..Wolf
From: grizbud@grizila.pillar.com  (Jim Gorges)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mail encryption programm for WAFFLE?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:15:28 CST
Organization: Grizila Onenode Network

ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:

> In <sDFoXB7w165w@tcscs.UUCP> tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood
> 
> >Where can we ftp/mail-serv RIPEM from?
> 
> 
> 	Hmmm, well, I don't remember off hand, will have to locate the 
> information again and let you all know.  
> 

RIPEM can be found at scss3.cl.msu.edu.  Be sure to get the README file
when you connect.  It describes what to do to gain access to the
encryption software.



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GENIE: J.GORGES                                 | adjustments.
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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: bad headers
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:55:51 GMT
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

jfrost@crash.cts.com (Julian Frost) writes:

> The unix host is sending me everything the same way as he does another
> local waffle board, 16 bit compression (yes, I've put in the 16 bit
> compression module) and they don't have any problems... so, it seems
> to be something in my configuration.

This is the 1st I've heard that you were using 16 bit
compression.  I assumed that it was 12 bit.  I'd consider asking
your smarthost to change it to 12 bit and use the normal compress.exe
in the V1.65 archive.  That's some real power stuff and I think
it requires almost all of the 640K RAM.

At least get your feed working before going into the 16 bit heavy
hiters.  slic is 12 bit and I get around 1450 cps when using uucp
spoofing with my smarthost.  My smarthost originally started
feeding slic with 16 bit as I did not ask for 12 bit.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: FAX-receive with ZyXEL
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:20:29 GMT

In article <BTouXB1w165w@acelab.re.open.de> ace@acelab.re.open.de (Andreas Fatum) writes:
|Using the "debug: modem" setting I saw an error-message just 
|scrolling out of the screen; I saw the CONNECT FAX message the
|ZyXEL sent and then something like "Hayes -2" or something
|like that....

Maybe you should try looking through the FAQ.  Try the section labelled "BUGS".

  Bill
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:19:38 GMT

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

>If your bbs phone line is busy, people assume that someone else is using
>it.

We will either short the lines or place a ~600 ohm resistor across
the line.  The worst that can happen is that an alarm will go off
at the telco that there MIGHT be a problem on a line/trunk.  They'll
then kill it and when we un-short the line, there's no dialtone.  A
call to repair and everything's back to normal.  It sometimes takes
a few days to have the line taken out of service.

>If your bbs doesn't answer the phone, sooner or later, someone will
>ring your voice line and tell you it's broken.

Jeez!  They do this even when the lines ARE in service.  "Hey, I know
it's late, but can you tell me why I'm only getting 1000cps on a
zmodem download?"  "I hit ctrl-z to get out of nn and now I have
a "suspended job" and can't log out." :-/
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From: dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: command 'me' in waffle 1.64
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:24:26 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

harrison@adobe.com (Harrison Page) writes:

> In article <470XXB2w164w@jaflrn.UUCP>, xyzzy@jaflrn.UUCP (daniel drucker)
> wrote:
> > 
> > When I type 'me' in waffle 1.64, I get:
> > Coreleft: 240744
> > Display mode: 3
> > Columns: 80
> > Active page: 0
> > Video Adapter: [insert linenoise type garbage here]
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> 
> That's the "mem" command, silly.

DUHHHHH!

> 
>   ..Harrison
> 
> --
> Harrison Page (harrison@adobe.com)
> Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, California
> "Not satisified with being dead, they packed up and headed west."


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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: best disk partition characteristics for holding news?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:34:46 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:

> russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:
> 
>> the old version of disk compression software I have here insisted on 8k
> 
>   What software was that? Although Stacker may want to insist on 8K

an old version (if you need to know `an old version of what' mail me - I
have no reason to slander these people just because I didn't send in my
registration card)  (or is that libel?  no matter)

> clusters, it really isn't wasted space. If a file can fit in one or two
> sectors (after compression), that's how much space will actually be
> allocated in the Stacker volume. DOS will THINK it's using a full 8K, but it
> isn't.

I'd tested it by creating one-byte (well, far less than 512) files, and
I kept getting `disk full' after not a lot of them - I wasn't going on
the `estimated space available' thingies.

at least, I'm pretty sure I was.  it was about a year ago that I tried it,
and I didn't save the log files or anything, but that's how I remember it...
-- 
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From: ka6etb@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (KA6ETB Steve Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ncsu dup checker/HellDiver problems
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:16:30 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

chorn@eastwind.mcds.com (Christopher Horn) writes:

> ka6etb@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (KA6ETB Steve Harding) writes:
> 
> > Ncsu apparently does some strange thing to the news directories.  After
> > saving off my join file (when I have finished reading news), and then
> > reopening helldiver, all read articles reappear.
> 
> If you use the -hf optiopn or whatever, it leaves the ctl files in the
> spool directories to speed up processing. Helldiver doesn't expect them
> there, and doesn't know how to handle them, and thus the problem. Not
> sure who you want to blame for the problem, I shouldn't have left them
> there but Helldiver shouldn't try reading non-news articles.

I emailed Rhys about this.  He says it will be fixed.

steve

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: \spool\unbatch -> ramdisk ???
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:03:36 GMT
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) writes:

> mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
> 
> > I've used a RAMDRIVE for /spool on both a 4.77 XT and now my
> >
> What is you have a power failure?  I can see using a ramdrive for
> /spool/unbatch but having everything under spool in a ramdrive seems
> very risky.

So true unless you have a UPS.  But even without, I process news
and mail after each uucp connection if any files were left on the
Ram Drive.  For a few minutes, you are vulnerable without a UPS.
It's a trade off but it is a workable soulution.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: How to set up smail3.1.27 with Unix waffle (was A Waffle question)
Keywords: Unix version (Xenix SysV), Smail-3.1.27, Waf165
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:46:52 GMT

jhood@smoke.marlboro.vt.us (John Hood) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.012744.245@victrola.sea.wa.us>
>vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:

>>First, I used your 'only crazy people should attempt' method for defining the
>>shell system as a different systemname than the waffle 'system' and it
>>works so well that maybe you ought'a make it the recommended way.

>Well, you have something intriguing here.

>What you have is a way of giving them both the same name but doing
>some handwaving behind the curtain to give them different names to
>Waffle.

6 years of running Apollos teach you lots of handwaving tricks
(not sure if that's :-) or :-()

the best part about it is that you don't have to come up with any specialized
smail routers or transports, which get kind'a nasty to look at.  I run on just
the compiled-in defaults and have only a 5 line paths file and 5 line config
file for smail and everything works.
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From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:16:17 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.99

system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) writes:

> Neither do you have the tendency to estimate the actual intelligence of the
> ordinary user.
> 
> In concise terms: These people tend to be fucking morons.

hey!  let's leave their love lives outa this!  :-)

> If they can't figure out how to change directories in my files section, where
> it is plainly spelled out in the menus, then I don't expect them to do
> anything with the docs other than use as asswipe.

I think (and others have said it as well) that a dirt-simple (well, ok,
maybe to this level is impossible) waffle-installer-thingie would help the
users who _can_ install a QWK reader, and would _like_ to have full
Usenet non-munging capabilities, but don't feel like installing waffle.

and yes, this in itself would only help the ms-dog users.  and only those
who have the noggin-filler.  but, we should be able to get the AMOUNT of
noggin-filler required lower and lower...

but not too low. :-)
-- 
Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODEM barf or How to get connected speed with locked port
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:59:30 PST
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson) writes:

> Well, I don't know what you mean by "take advantage of the info."  I played
> around with my v.32bis SupraFaxModem, with having it report the actual DTE
> connect string as opposed to the default, the locked DCE speed.  I've got
> locked:19200 and driver:fossil in my static file, I've got the actual port
> locked using BNU1.70 and I've locked the port speed using the appropriate
> modem register setting (which I don't have handy).  So, the callers log
> file shows every connection at 19200, and DSZ estimates down/upload times
> using 19200.  Other than that, I don't see how "Waffle" takes advantage of
> the reported connect speeds.

This is exactly what I have on my Telebit.  But I found the
correct X register to be  X4  and now have 1200 and 2400 reported
correctly.  But I did get a 19200 reported on a 9600 or 14.4
connection.  But better than all reported at 19.2.

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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 0 length files for outgoing news.. why???
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 06:58:54 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

> tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
> 
> > This has been brought up several times and at least once by myself.
> > 
> > I thought the answer was that news was being deleted (more news in one
> > session than /keep allowed) and that they weren't being queued properly.
> > 
> > Now I run a time based expire.  (CWEXP i think, but i've been trying out 
> > several).  The only problem is I'm still getting them. 
> > Any ideas?

> Someone on your system has posted an article, then cancelled it.
> 
> Posting adds the article to the list of stuff to be batched,
> but cancelling it doesn't remove it from the list, so when
> your machine tries to batch, it can't find the article and
> screams.
> 
wrong..I'm the only user of my system.  I have not posted and canceled an 
article for quite some time (unless by some fluke the expire deleted it before
it's 'official' expire time).  I don't think this is what is happening either.

It does this during the night when the system does all of it's automated 
polling and batching.

I just had the bug that I'd seen referenced here before where I followed up
an article and when I got to the end of the messages in that group waffle
couldn't find an article and it put my join counter to 0.  Now I wish I would
have paid attention to those earlier posts--- i dont know how to stop that.

Any other ideas about the 0 message news files?  Another point about them.
They are from UUCP and not RNEWS.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: command 'me' in waffle 1.64
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:15:22 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson) writes:

> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> 
> > xyzzy@jaflrn.UUCP (daniel drucker) writes:
> > 
> > > When I type 'me' in waffle 1.64, I get:
> > > Coreleft: 240744
> > > Display mode: 3
> > > Columns: 80
> > > Active page: 0
> > > Video Adapter: [insert linenoise type garbage here]
> > > 
> > > Any ideas ?
> > 
> >  MEmory available. (Free Memory)
> 
> Another careless reader!!
 
 Pardon me ya jerk! get out of here and hide under ya rock again!


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: dawson@hobbes.bsan.bls.com (Willard Dawson)
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Organization: BellSouth Systems Integration
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:44:42 GMT

randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid) writes:

>russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:
>
>> for five minutes, I can't foresee a problem (realistically).  for longer
>> periods of, say, a half-hour and up, I can easily imagine some fabled
>> network trouble indicator light coming on, and no one being pleased that
>> it was just you wanting to give the world a busy signal.
>> 
>> I don't know if these things really exist or not, myself.
>> 
>> again, just ignoring the rings hurts no one, unless your users are clueless
>> to the point of no return.  even then, if they leave, you're just raising
>> the average IQ of your callers...
>> -- 
>> Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
>
>Being busy for a user may be OK but for an incoming uucp call its a
>different story IMHO.
>
>I prefer my uucp sites to appear "busy" if they aren't ready to connect to
>me.   The reason is that my Waffle system will respond quickly to a busy
>signal and I can get on with polling someone else.  If the site doesn't
>answer, Waffle will sit there for 10+ rings waiting to time out.

The answer to that little problem is called "intelligent polling." :-)
If Tom (or whomever actually owns the darned uucico code) would add support
for "retry" time management, you could rest a bit easier and worry less
about your UUCP neighbors going offline.  Something like most real UNIX
uucico's do... "Retry time not reached..."

Of course, if you want to resort to a wrapper program and manage your own
retry-times (calling uucico with specific sitenames), then you've done
effectively the same.  I don't like that too much, but I'm beginning to
think it would be worth the effort, especially now that my own UUCP neigh-
bor count is up around 20, and some of them have had downtime recently.
As long as only a single host is offline, it's not too much a worry.  But,
when three, four, or more are down, you really lose a bunch of time...

I'd rather just call "uucico -s any" and have uucico do it's own dirty
work...

>This amounts to a "lot" of wasted time for a system that makes around
>200 calls/day and has 20 other uucp sites to service (like mine).
>
>-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA (Wes Garland)
Subject: Re: Internet Echo on FidoNet started by Adam Mi
Reply-To: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA
Organization: Terminal Velocity Kingston
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:27:31 GMT

I take it it is on the North American Backbone with area-tag INTERNET?
If so I will be Areafixing it tonight.

Cheers,
Wes

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From: thecat@felix.nervous.com (Roberto Nucci)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: waffle 1.65 add-ons
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 93 09:22:58 GMT
Reply-To: thecat@felix.nervous.com
Distribution: world
Organization: The WildCat's Lair (Rimini,Italy)

i'm looking for some waffle's add-on...
expecially for a news-reader...
is there some good FTPable stuff ?
if yes... what & where ?
thanks in advance.

--
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From: fenner@cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Pointer to Waffle Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:15:22 GMT
Expires: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 08:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: fenner@cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Supersedes: <waffle-faq-ptr_c0s9L4@cs.psu.edu>
Originator: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu

This is a pointer to the Waffle FAQ.  The Waffle FAQ is posted once every 15
days; this pointer is posted 7 days after the FAQ, so either the FAQ or this
pointer should exist on most news systems at any given time.

If your newsreader can retreive messages by Message-ID:, look in the newsgroup
news.answers for Message-ID: <waffle-faq_c172X5@cs.psu.edu>.
If your newsreader follows threads, the FAQ should be the parent of this
article.  If you are using trn, type '{' to get to the FAQ.

The Waffle FAQ is available via anonymous ftp in the following locations:

	pit-manager.mit.edu: /pub/usenet/news.answers/waffle-faq.Z

It is also available via mail server; send a message containing
"send usenet/news.answers/waffle-faq" to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu .

You can also send me email, although I'm guaranteed not to be faster than the
pit-manager mail server.

  Bill
From: bytehead@bp1742.UUCP (Bryan Price)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Wish List for Waffle v1.66
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:16:30 EDT
Organization: Burning Point, Columbus OH  43229-5646

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

> Here is my wish list for Waffle, mostly for rn! ...
> 
>      - A 'c' (catch-up) command at newsgroup level prompts.  Then you
>        won't have to read a message just to 'c' catch-up on all the
>        messages.

I agree on this one.

>      - Support for reading old messages in newsgroups with no new
>        articles.  I use /fast, so it all goes woosh and I have to
>        resort to the READ command to get anywhere!

Don't like this one.  If you want to read old messages, then use
NEW instead.  If I'm using RN, I only want to read the new
messages, and skip those newsgroups that don't have them.  Maybe
NEW needs to be more like RN.

>      - Support for 'p', 'P' (and probably 'n', 'N') at newsgroup level 

Don't get this one.

>      - A 'End of newsgroups, what next?' prompt to go with the above
> 
>      - Perhaps, instead of "Post here?" it could be expanded to
>        "read (yn)?" or whatever.... it would be nice to be able to
>        backtrack..

I think the would be better suited to NEW not RN.

I'd like to see the W command ask for a file name instead of
just writing to a file named message.  At the local console this
can be a problem when you think you've hit enough :s.....

Bryan L. Price       | [ bytehead@bp1742.UUCP ]           *Burning Magnesium*
<Why would I make    | [ bytehead@bluemoon.use.com]
my disc any laimer?> | [ Bryan.Price@p1742.f340.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG ]
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle