From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: BILL CLINTON ON ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:35:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.162606.5941@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>>
>>They haven't departed from this idea. It's still in the PLO charter,
>>in the regular statements issued by Hizbollah and Syria, and in the
>>statements made by more than half of the PLO statesmen I hear. Arafat,
>>immediately following his supposed "acceptance" of the existence of
>>Israel, followed it up in the Arab papers with something along the
>>lines of "No, no, no!! We do not recognize Israel's right to exist;
>>we have never said that." -- it's been posted here, along with the
>>paper it came from, but I don't recall what that was.
>>
>
>I think some body asked a PLO official about the charter and the answer
>was that the previous charter has been cancelled. Why do you think then
>the present government declared that the no PLO contact law is stupid?
>would they have said that if the charter was still the same?

I think that Labor doesn't believe Arafat and his gang more than the 
Likud does, they just don't care [I think this careless attitude is
extremely stupid but never mind]. 

The PLO wants the West to believe that he cancelled this charter,
however this is not true and they are not saying it to Arab ears, just
to please nudging American reporters and mislead Public opinion.

The PLO cannot change this becuase its raison d'etre and is the
destruction of Israel and the Right of Return.

>
>>>If Rabin was correct in what he said last week on MCcneil Lehrer news
>>>hour that he is prepared to offer the Palestininas a first step self
>>>rule and elections on the next peace talks, it would be a good time
>>>to end of boycott. I would prefer to see a final solution before the
>>>end of the boycott.
>>
>>I just love your terminology here. No doubt a "final solution" is
>>exactly what you'd like; unfortunately, we fight back these days.
>
>Nora, what is with you? last time you say nuclear weapons and now
>you say we fight back. The final solution should be a Palestinian
>state ruled by Palestinians. Unless if you want the one state
>solution which most Jews reject. We the Palestinians have a right
>as much as you have a right. We want our own president. We want our
>own country and this is the only thing acceptable. In other words,
>we are human beings just like you are. I composed of flesh and blood
>and I need to have a country. The Arab countries are not my country.
>If you don't want to give me my rights and want to fight back,then
>I have to fight back too.

I cannot understand why (beside harassing Israel) the Arabs didn't accomodate
the refugees and left them hanging in the air. There is no doubt that without 
King Husein there is no such thing as Jordanian Nationality. Jordan has
over 70% Palestinain population - I cannot understand why there should
be 2 Palestinian states one ruled by a Saudi monarch and one ruled by
the arch-terrorist Arafat. I think that the Jordanian fiction must be
replaced with a Palestinian state (Arafat/Islamic Jihad ruling).

I think that Palestinian insistence to split Israel backed by Arab support 
is a scheme and will only bring more bloodshed to the Region. 

David.
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