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From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Good news for Sun Ra fans
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:47:26 GMT

I heard this morning that the new batch of Sun Ra CDs on Evidence will ship 
tomorrow (at least in the Northeast)!  So start saving your dollars (or 
warming up your plastic).

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: lenny@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Lenny Silver)
Subject: Brubeck rereleases (was Alice in Wonderland
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:48:21 GMT

|> Brubeck/Desmond also did an LP in the late 50s called, "Dave Digs Disney",
|> 
|> Yet another Brubeck recording is on a two-LP set I have called "Stardust",
|> featuring very early work by the Brubeck/Desmond group.
|> 
|> Note - this is another one of those times when I am posting from my foggy
|> memory; I fully expect someone to post tomorrow "no, I have that album, and
|> Alice ain't on it".  If it's not there, then I'll guess "Jazz: Red Hot And
|> Cool".
|> 

I've been very dissatisfied with the Columbia reissues of the old
Brubeck stuff from the 50's, like the 3 albums mentioned above,
Jazz Impressions of the USA, and other stuff.  Where was the
original of The Trolley Song?  I haven't seen that reissued yet.

Lenny
From: sik@grosz.esd.sgi.com (Seth Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz Flutists (was Re: Rampal ...)
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:13:18 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Nov20.145112.24765@seada.com>, sue@seada.com writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.161506.3281@nic.csu.net> hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu writes:
> >In article <1992Nov19.065619.5082@seada.com>  writes:
> 
> >No Seth, he [James Newton]
> >doesn't overblow like Dolphy
> 
> He can if he wants to!

Hey, no fair.

Anyway, just 'cause I like even less flautists (an apt 
name) than trumpet players, doesn't mean I'm all bad.

For the record, I enjoy intelligence and originality on
the flute (beyond overblowing).  James Newton doesn't grab
my crank.  But I do like Kirk, Adams, and Dolphy.

Hm, what a list.  The only good flautist...

Next week: I rant for pages about insensitive trumpet players.
...or: I'll trade you one Jean Pierre Rampal for your Kenny G.
=-s
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From: fbahrami@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Farhad Bahrami)
Subject: Re: Mystery guitarist on Trilok Gurtu's _Usfret_
Keywords: Trilok Gurtu, John McLaughlin 
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:56:29 GMT

In article <41040@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ee152fcy@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid) writes:
>The opening track, "Shobarock", features some blazing solos by an
>uncredited electric guitarist. Any idea of who this may be?
 
>The only players I've heard who could play super fast swept arpeggios
>like that would be John McLaughlin, Frank Gambale, or Robert Fripp.
>It's not Holdsworth (I would have recogized him immediately). 

Paolo,

I'm pretty sure it's not Gambale - it's not that *style, however it does sound 
a bit like John McLaughlin, perhaps in earlier days - although I don't think
it's him either (why wouldn't he be listed?).

Farhad

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From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Sun Ra Evidence Reissues
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:32:11 GMT

The latest batch of Evidence Ra reissues appeared at the Cambridge Tower 
yesterday.  The "new" titles are:

Cosmic Tones For Mental Therapy/Art Forms of Dimensions Tomorrow (ECD 22036)
Other Planes of There (ECD 22037)
We Travel the Spaceways/Bad and Beautiful (ECD 22038)
Sun Ra Visits Planet Earth/Interstellar Low Ways (ECD 22039)
My Brother the Wind Vol. II (ECD 22040)

Hopefully I got all of the titles right.  I believe the three titles with 
slashes are compilations of two LPs on one CD.  Now all I have to do is save 
up my $$ to buy them! :)  Any recommendations??

Something else I noticed while looking around was the newly reissued Ornette 
Coleman live at Town Hall, 1962, recording on ESP.  That probably means there 
are some other new ESP reissues lurking out there...

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
From: sue@seada.com (Sue Raul)
Subject: Re: Jazz Flutists (was Re: Rampal ...)
Organization: Software Enginerring and Design Associates
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:51:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.161506.3281@nic.csu.net> hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.065619.5082@seada.com>  writes:

>No Seth, he [James Newton]
>doesn't overblow like Dolphy

He can if he wants to!

>Check out Is and Sundance.
 
Is that one or two recordings?

thx,

Sue
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From: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Subject: Re: Eva/Wave and Avant record labels?
Reply-To: anton@HQ.Ileaf.COM (steve norton)
Organization: interleaf, inc., waltham, ma, usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:15:04 GMT

In some article, Lynn Rardin, aka rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu, writes:
> 
> I believe there's also a Zorn (and Naked City?) recording called LOCUS  
> SOLUS from 1983 on Eva.

no naked city on locus solus.  '83 was quite pre-NC, no?  (i'm sure ed
will clear this up.)

locus solus was originally a 2 lp (i think they might even have been
eps) set on Rift records, and it had zorn in a different trio of
musicians on each of the 4 sides.  unfortunately, i'm having a hell of
a time remembering who's on it.  christian markley is the only name i
remember for sure.  david moss?  charles k. noyes?  damn...
-- 

/steve
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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Alice in Wonderland
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:28:36 GMT

Gareth Lee (gel@sys.uea.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: >Dave Brubeck and Paul Desmond do a lovely rendition of Alice on The Duets
: >recorded in 1975
: 
: Brubeck/Desmond also did an LP in the late 50s called, "Dave Digs Disney",

Yet another Brubeck recording is on a two-LP set I have called "Stardust",
featuring very early work by the Brubeck/Desmond group.

Note - this is another one of those times when I am posting from my foggy
memory; I fully expect someone to post tomorrow "no, I have that album, and
Alice ain't on it".  If it's not there, then I'll guess "Jazz: Red Hot And
Cool".

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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: MUWORKS records and Robert Musso solo works
Keywords: MU, Laswell, Material
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:36:06 GMT

So far I've found 3 releases on MUWORKS RECORDS, based in New York
City (111 4th Ave, #5A, NYC, NY 10003 USA), and I'm curious for more
info on what this label is up to. I think someone said this is Robert
Musso's label, associated with some record store. 

So far I've found MUWORKS releases:

MUW 1002  ROBERT MUSSO - ABSOLUTE MUSIC
with Bootsy Collins, Bernie Worrell, Bill Laswell, Jonas Hellborg, 
Aiyb Deing

MUW 1007 IMPROVISED MUSIC NEW YORK 1981
Derek Bailey, Fred Frith, Sonny Sharrock, John Zorn, Bill Laswell, Charles
K. Noyes
I'm a bit disappointed with this. Short, loose improvs, edited together. 
Seth thought that some other player(s) like Christian Marclay were on
here and uncredited, if I recall correctly.  

MUW 1008 ROBERT MUSSU - ACTIVE RESONANCE
All instrumnets by Robert Musso ecept bass by Bill Laswell on one track. 


The two Robert Musso releases I've found on MUWORKS are interesting. I
found both in cutout sections, though one is a 1992 release. I think it 
just sat in the wrong section of the store for 6 months. 

The Musso stuff is the closest to prog rock of any Musso/Laswell/NY Downtown
scene/Material gang music I've heard yet. I'm basically only familiar
with Musso through his work with Laswell and Material, and that work is
much more improvised and funky typically than these. Well, the latest 
Musso has works that are funkier and more along the lines of the Laswell
projects like Baker's Middle Passage. 

I'm curious if anyone has any other releases on MUWORKS or more info about
anything on it. Sure I could just write them... probably will. This stuff
definitely belongs in the list of Laswell collaborations I've been trying 
to compile...

  - Malcolm 
malcolm@wrs.com  
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From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: ___Monk competition__?
Keywords: monk drums
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:32:56 GMT


I know this is a long shot, but I was
wondering if there any recordings of this year's
Monk competition.

Was any of it broadcast?

  If so, did anyone record it?

    If so, based on my reading of the Voice review 
    I'm particularly interested in hearing
    Harold Summey's performances. 



Thanks.


WJM



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From: cc@biff.fishkill.ibm.com (Chris Cowan)
Subject: Re: MILES DAVIS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:48:48 GMT
Reply-To: cc@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Pough, NY


In article <kRR6TB4w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, buzzsaw@bluemoon.use.com
(Patrick Buzby) writes:
|> On The Corner (if it's ever reissued)

It's out on CD, I've seen it!!  (Should have bought it then too, because
that's the only one I've seen!)

|> 
|>      Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
|>      Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa
Chris Cowan
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: George Adams passes
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:36:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - I heard today that George
Adams has just died.  He was 52.  No details.

-Ben
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From: etxjoos@kk39.ericsson.se (ETX-TT-ED Sahlin Johan)
Subject: Havanna Jam / Real Books
Organization: Ericsson
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:01:51 GMT

Hi, 

Does anyone out there know if the Havanna Jam ( Pastorius, McLaughlin and
Williams in Monteaux ) records ever was released on CD, and if so, 
which record company, order number etc.?


I'm about to buy a Real/Fake book which one is the best for Standards and
which one is best for newer material as Weather Report, Chick Corea and
stuff like that.


-Johan

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From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Old Simon & Garfunkel
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:41:26 GMT
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI

rmurphy@usc.edu (Bob Murphy) writes:

>I once heard that Simon & Garfunkel put out an album when they were
>teenagers.  They apparently went under the name of Tom & Jerry.
>I've looked in phonologs and used album stores but I've never found such
>an album.  Does it really exist???

Many years ago, my brother had an early S&G album.  I remember it as
being sort of bad rock.  The first song was "Hey, Little Schoolgirl" but
I don't remember much more about it.

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: James Taylor singing "Old Blue"
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:44:34 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov20.031259.26768@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman) writes:
|This is actually on an album by Mark O'Connor, the incredible fiddle
|player who toured with JT for awhile (and is one of the busiest seesion
|players in Nashville).  I believe the album is otherwise all
|instrumental, but I haven't heard it myself.

Yes, the rest is instrumental.  Actually, I think I found my copy in the
rock section.  It's a very good album and would be a nice "folk music
to relax by".  

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From: sfriedman@pbs.org (Dr. Freddy Strange, Sr., M.A. )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Theme Music From The Woodwright's Shop (PBS)
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:04:03 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Nov12.125750.1148@ms.uky.edu>, jgary@ms.uky.edu (James E. Gary) writes:
> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
> 
>>What's the name/origin of the theme music used on PBS's The Woodwright's
>>Shop? It sounds an awful lot like some of the stuff on the Chieftains CD
> 
> If memory serves, it is perfomed by the Red Clay Ramblers, a North Carolina
> group.

They used to use `Kildare's Fancy,' from the Red Clay Ramblers' Flying Fish
album `Merchant's Lunch.'  (The tune is in O'NEILL'S MUSIC OF IRELAND.)

But I don't think they're using that anymore, are they?  They had a new
theme specially composed by Rod Abernathy for new shows in the fall of 1989;
after that, they dropped theme music entirely (or so they told me) except
for occasional uses of `River,' by Enya (and Nicky Ryan).....

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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Music to calm down by
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:04:26 GMT
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company

In article <27555@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>My nomination is the Blue Buddha tape/cd from Robin Anders of Boiled
>In Lead.  I'm not sure this would qualify as folk music either.	 

That one can be a little _too_ calming sometimes.  From personal
experience: DO NOT put this tape in the cassette player late at night
on a long car trip when somewhat sleepy.  The hypnotic effect can be
non-conducive to survival.

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From: mcclosk@cats.ucsc.edu (James McCloskey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Maire Ni Bhraonain
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:40:16 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: rufus.ucsc.edu



In article 13876, Andrew Smith (asmith@iti.org) asks:

|> I've been meaning to ask this for ages: what is the correct way to pronounce
|> the Gaelic versions of the names of the members of Clannad?  Also, what is
|> the significance of the menfolk being called O Braonain and the women being
|> Ni Bhraonain?  These are the spellings (minus the accents) used on the cover
|> of "Fuaim" and other early albums.

Most Irish family names come in male and female variants. For names
which have \'O in the masculine form, the female equivalent if N\'i.

For instance:  M\'iche\'al \'O Domhnaill (man)
               Tr\'iona    N\'i Dhomnaill (woman)

               Ciar\'an  \'O Braon\'ain (man)
               Eithne  N\'i Bhraon\'ain (woman)

Historically, \'O means grandson-of or descendant-of; N\'i means
daughter-of. (The change in spelling in the second element of these
names---the extra [h]---is the orthographical sign that an initial
mutation is caused by N\'i but not by \'O.) 
Using the usual phonetic conventions the 
For masculine names in Mac (historically son-of), the female form is
N\'i or Nic:

               S\'eamas Mac Bhloscaidh (man)
               Caitl\'in Nic Bhloscaidh (woman)

As for pronunciation: using the usual phonetic conventions:

\'O Braon\'ain      [o: b'r'e:na:n']          (O Bray-nan)
N\'i Bhraon\'ain    [n'i: v'r'e:na:n']        (Nee Vray-nan)

(V: is a long vowel; C' marks a palatalized consonant)

Actually, they're almost always just called Brennan in Ireland, even
in Irish-speaking Donegal. This is because their father Leo Brennan
was not a local man (he was a travelling dance-band leader) and so the
Gaelicization of his and therefore their name was a little artificial
and schoolish.

Jim McCloskey
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Query: Rednecks & white sox
Keywords: "Rednecks & white sox", country music, social class
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 23:02:07 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:

>  No, we don't fit in with that white-collar crowd --
>  We're a little too rowdy & a little to loud.
>  There's no place that I'd rather be than right here
>  With these rednecks & white sox & Blue Ribbon beer.

>Can anyone tell me who wrote it, who else sings it, and what record(s)
>it is on?

This was a country hit for Johnny Russell, he put out an album of the
same name. I don't know whether or not he wrote it.  I've got the
lyrics rat-holed away in one of my song books, e-mail me if that's
what you're after.

-- 
-- Ray
From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Top ten compilation
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:47:44 GMT
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI

Here's a summary of the various postings on "top ten" or "ultimate top
ten".  Actually I lost track of album titles due to the tremendous
variety, but found the lists of artists quite useful.  Here's what we
collectively came up with (apologies for typos or miscalculations):

5 times
=======	
Fairport Convention	
 
4 times
=======	
Gaughan, Dick                Seeger, Pete
Gorka, John	                 Tabor, June
Peter, Paul & Mary	
 
3 times
=======	
Bok, Trickett & Muir         Jansch, Bert
Collins, Judy                Mitchell, Joni
Dylan, Bob                   Steeleye Span
Will the Circle Be Unbroken	
 
2 times
=======	
Benoit, Emile                On a Winter's Night
Bogle, Eric                  Oyster Band
Bothy Band                   Paxton, Tom
Brown, Greg                  Pentangle
Capercaillie                 Prior, Maddy
Franke, Bob                  Roberts, John & Tony Barrand
Guthrie, Arlo                Rogers, Stan
Hot Rize                     Shocked, Michelle
Hurt, Mississippi John       Simon & Garfunkel
Limeliters                   Small, Fred
Malicorne                    Staines, Bill
McCutcheon, John             Thompson, Richard and Linda
Mitchell Trio                Watson, Doc
Morrissey, Bill              Weavers, The
New Lost City Ramblers       Wheeler, Cheryl	

I found the list interesting and there are a number of artists I'll be
looking for as a result of the recommendations.

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From: wgreene@oldblev.lonestar.org (Wayne Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: _Songs from Fogarty's Cove_ (was Re: "Mary Ellen Carter"...)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:23:09 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Old Blevins Productions

tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny) writes:

> In article <1992Nov16.045129.1884@Virginia.EDU> mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Con
> >_Songs from Fogarty's Cove_ songbook?  I haven't seen that
> >before.  Who publishes it?  What form is the music in (piano,
> >guitar tab, etc.)?  Where can I get it?
> 
"Songs From Fogarty's Cove", published by OFC Publications,
    (A Division of the Ottawa Folklore Centre, Ltd)
     PO Box 4061, Stn. 'E',
     Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

     ISBN: 0-919141-01-3  copyright 1982 by OFC Publications



     Wayne G.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: gawne@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: "Put Another Log On The Fire" et al
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:44:31 GMT

In article <16NOV199215463016@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu>, 
tombrady@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Tom Brady) writes:
> The song you're looking for is "Put Another Log On The Fire"
> a version of which can be found on the album "The Outlaws"
> by Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Tompall Glaser, and <urk>
> (mental block - Waylon's wife - Jessie somethingorother).

It's Jessie Coulter, who has also done at least one album of her own.

Sorry I don't recall the words of "Put another log ..." but I dimly recall
hearing a parody involving "Put another frog ..."  Anybody know it?

-Bill Gawne, Space Telescope Science Institute
From: tmw9@aber.ac.uk (Thomas Mayne Waddell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: More folk music & politics: Tommy Sands
Keywords: folk music, politics, Tommy Sands
Date: 22 Nov 92 13:37:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


I come from Newcastle, Co Down, just about an hour away from the home town of 
Tommy Sands and therefore I think I can claim to understand his position. He is
quite Socialist and also very Pacifist...hence his condemnation of the IRA and
the UDF. He is Nationalist...however he seems to believe that before we can
really start to try and solve the differences between the two communities in NI 
we must first understand the similarities...To give an example of lyrics that 
show this just listen to "There were Roses":

"For the ground our fathers ploughed in,
The soil it is the same,
And the places where we say our prayers 
Have just got different names."

So for Tommy Sands as for a lot of people in NI the most important thing is to
get an atmosphere where we can all forget our prejudices and talk. So in his
music, although, the majority of his listeners would be, almost by definition,
Nationalist he tries not to pass any judgements of the type "Ireland must be
united".More important is that the minority that cause the violence must be 
stopped.
	I was at a Tommy Sands concert during the Summer and he played a song
which he had written just recently about mixed marriages which took many of the
stereotypes held by each community and held them up to ridicule. I don't think 
that it has been released in any form yet...but I would be very interested to 
know if it has.
	Politics in Northern Ireland is very confusing and sometimes hard to 
understand, principly because many of the standard labels don't apply.  For 
instance the SDLP (Social Democratic and Labour Party) frequently comes under 
criticism for being Nationalist first and Socialist a poor second, despite its 
name.

Tom.
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