HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jimakinen@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Any good (non-porn) gay magazines?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:50:02 GMT

Somebody asked some time ago if there is any good non-porno gay magazine.
Well, there is at least one magazine that I've been keen on: GAY times
from England. It is very good and interesting magazine telling about
the people, the happenings and different issues in gay community, there's
no porno, but of course in the advertisements there's some - just close
your eyes if you hate them...
  
Anyway, in case you want to subcsibe, here's the address:
  
GAY times
Millivres Ltd.
Ground Floor
Worldwide House
116-134 Bayham St.
London NW1 0BA
UK

PS. The only "negative" comment is the magazine tells mainly about the UK.


Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus)
Subject: Re: Beat 'Em Back In The Closet!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: net
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:06:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.143606.4298@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ch_hayhurst@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>I hope you goddamn fags die of AIDS!!!

You know something?  Gays are no longer at greatest risk for catching
the AIDS virus in this country.  Young heterosexuals are.  You're one.
You're more likely to get AIDS than a gay person.

>Beat them back in the closet!!
>Goddamn sick bastards!

Amazing that a person that goes around advocating assault and battery
on other people should call his _victims_ "sick bastards".

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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: k.d. and jackie
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:21:16 GMT


> Jackie

Jackie is not the friend of Roseanne and her sister.  Jackie is Roseanne's
sister.
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From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: HOMOS BITE
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:19:59 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

In <1jh0hrINN5cr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh192@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith D. Cummings) writes:


>OK, well, I did at first.  I mean, it wasn't intentional, I simply
>failed to use my lips to cover my teeth.  However, with persistence
>and conviction, I have corrected this problem and personally promise
>NOT to bite anywhere.... Unless it's somewhere he WANTS to be
>bitten.  ;)

>OH, btw, VAMPIRES bite too.  :)

Indeed.  An assertion was made in a thread a couple of months
ago in alt.vampyres that `VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!!!'  Coincidence?
Maybe not. :-}

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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Beat 'Em Back In The Closet!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:51:37 EST

In article <1993Jan20.232630.28027@cs.uwp.edu> evans@cs.uwp.edu (Randy Evans) writes:
>
>Jeez what type of women do you go out with if your whole head can fit in
>their vaginas

Elephants, because they're the only ones who might date this guy. Oh, but
they're *female* elephants.  :)


Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: King of the Sidewalk Peeve
Organization: OFSA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:29:16 GMT

jmk45295@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John M Kaney) inquires:

>Who else out there in Net-land is annoyed by
>those individuals who walk right down the
>middle of the sidewalk, infringing upon
>your fair share?

Fair??!! Whenever I meet said individual I just move to the center
also and invariably he/she moves to the side, as do I.

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From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: If ya don't wanna talk, about it, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT (Was: Orientals . . .)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1ji6otINNffl@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>
	<ATAYLOR.93Jan20215359@gauss.nmsu.edu>
	<1993Jan22.022703.15734@igor.tamri.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:05:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.022703.15734@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:

<Peeve:  Politics.  About as pleasant as taking a dump and just as palatable.

	It really steams me when people bring up a subject that's
	about as palatable as a turd in a punchbowl, then get 
	defensive when some folks disagree with them.

	If you don't want to hear/read opinions you don't agree
	with, DON'T START IT UP.



Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: DMV peeve     was Re: More Gun Control
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:29:27 GMT

Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth) writes:
>
>I agree in theory, but remember that there's no one to do this but the
>gummint, and the track record of the DMV is such that I'm not too sanguine
>about the gummint's ability to spot BDI's on a mass quantitative basis. 


Oh.  I strongly disagree.  There's no way in heaven or hell they
could hire so many of 'em otherwise.


Peeve:  The DMV. They must hold training classes in infuriation and sloth.
I find it had to believe anybody could be that bad without specific training.


	Bob "damn right I had an appointment!" O'Bob

!peeve: for each appointment they "lose", I show up for one I didn't make.
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: phone addicts
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:14:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

OK, this is new: I was in the bathroom this afternoon at work and some guy
comes in to piss.  He's pissing.  His cellular phone rings!  He answers
it and talks away while he pisses, flushes, washes his hands, and racks the
towel dispenser.

If someone called him at 1am, they'd probably have a conversation interspersed
with the sound of his wife moaning.  Or maybe not.

unrelated peeve: I found out that it's hard to wipe up lots of blood.  The
actual wiping isn't difficult, it's just that when you think you're done,
you find a bunch of drops, streaks, or a pool of it in some place where you
just didn't expect to find it - augh!!!!  it keeps popping up!

-Dave
From: library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Advice On: auto-oral sex
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:25:34 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: library@merlin.comlab

In article <1jn0clINN9dn@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
>nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw) writes:
>
>>OTOH, a blow job from Hercules is a good way to start Orion.
>
>
>Just be sure to remove the broken starter first, be careful of FOD,
>and watch that turbine inlet temperature once you get lightoff.
>

In amongst the tales of our darling Royals a short news article hit the streets
here in UKland. Some poor bod was found having sex with his car. He'd started
off naturally enough fondling the steering wheel. Eventually this was no longer
enough and somehow he decided that shafting the exhaust pipe was more fun.
From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:00:06 -0500
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu

shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:
>Look, Scott, Physics 1a just isn't gonna cut it.

The physics you know is apparently also insufficient.

> The bullet leaves the
>barrel of most firearms at extra-Mach velocities. Thus the crack. When in a
>free fall, however, the speed of sound is the ultimate limit on velocity.

The word is "terminal velocity", creep.  And it has little to do with the
speed of sound.

Peeve: physics abuse.  The phenomenon where a person who knows physics
superficially tries to use it to intimidate innocent victims.

This thread is a prime example.  What started it was Geoff giving a
perfectly good explanation of shooting a bullet up.  Geoff's explanation
was so good that it didn't even use any physics terms.  Thus our first
physics abuser saw what looked like easy prey, and attacked.  In such a
primitive fashion that he revealed himself to be prey.  Thus a second
physics abuser proceeded to attack the first one.  And, naturally, they
were both wrong.  Because if they were the sort of person with any real
concern for the truth, they would have learned their physics better in the
first place.


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From: jennyg@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Well Paid in Name Only)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: My New Roomie, Rehmi
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:36:54 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

Moved in today.

!Peeve:  He has an espresso maker, coffee grinder & really neat
1950s looking contraption for making Tea (Yes! It's Mr. Tea, just
add hot water & a tea bag, Mr. Tea does the rest).  Added to my
lovely Braun 12-cup, and I think we'll rename the place
Caffeine Central.

Peeve: He left his homemade cannon in Boston.

!Peeve: He's gonna pick it up this weekend.

?Peeve: He knows booter & Bandy.  Do either of you have any warnings
for me about a certain E. Rehmi Post?

???: He said I should ask about the Bandycast...

Jenny "ODind on cappucino on a regular basis" Gutbezahl
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:26:41 GMT

In article <1k037tINNjgh@lynx.unm.edu> baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin)
writes:
>	Thanks, Don. All this time I thought I was just "missing"
>something from some of Heinlein's stuff. After I read "Number of
>the Beast" I was just left thinking "Huh?". At least I now know
>that this was RAH's fault, not mine.

Yep, the dude lost it after a certain point.  I'd say anything up to and
including 1973's Time Enough for Love is worth reading (with the possible
exception of I Will Fear No Evil).  Starship Troopers, Glory Road, Stranger
in a Strange Land, the Past through Tomorrow anthology...all worth a read.
His earlier quality just makes the later crap that much sadder...

    don
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Subject: Re: Peeve du jour - Menhaden
Reply-To: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:23:06 GMT


Well, In SannaCrooz, where I hail from, "Menhaden" is typically not used
to refer to fish except in the most indirect and vulgar way, and it is typically
used as part of a two-word phrase:

Menhaden Dykes

JZ

ObReference: See Booter

ObPeeve: not staying late enough at the peevesters party.
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:44:48 GMT
Organization: russ at home in Albuquerque New Mexico

In article <3Tpks*7-0@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
>> Not necessarily.  For example, one could keep a loaded double action revolver,
>> with a trigger lock BEHIND the trigger.  No way to fire it without removing
>
>"Hang on a minute, Mr Masked Attacker, I just need to find my
>keys, get them out, and unlock the trigger lock on my
>double-action revolver, and then I'm going to blow you away. Ta."
>
>Sure, Don. This is just so utterly and totally believable. 

Tell you what, DAC, next time you're in Albuquerque feel free to break
into my house.  I have a handgun in the bedroom in a locked case. Just
break into the place through the front door and you can have
everything that your bleeding carcass can carry out.  I've got some
neat computer gear back in the study and lots of tools in the garage,
so it's worth your while...

This must be a good deal, right?  It's locked up and everything.

Note to the non-DAC in the viweing audience: there are lots of ways to
prevent accidental discharge of a firearm or misuse by someone in your
house. DAC isn't an expert on these things, and clearly knows nothing
on this topic, yet clearly feels that it's acceptable to belittle the
statements of someone who know something.

Note to DAC: there are ways of securing firearms such that they're
same from casual use by passers by and children yet still are
available for defensive purposes.  I hope that I'll never have to
remove the handgun and use it, but it's available much in the same way
as I carry flares and a mud-jack in the truck - just in case I need
it.  I'm sorry that you feel threatened by that position, but I'll
always believe that my wife and kids are worth more than joe random
thief, and act appropriately.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   russ@bbx.basis.com, bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
"It's better to be quotable than to be honest" - Tom Stoppard
From: gregm@centauri.unm.edu (greg moritz)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 23 Jan 1993 06:38:39 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pioneer.unm.edu

> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com(A. Jing Hippy) writes:
> >But we don't *need* the guns.  If they weren't around, then that's 1400
> >people that would still be here today.  
> 
donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) responded:
> Thirdly, I imagine (pure speculation) that those people who were killed
> were NOT people who have been trained to handle guns safely.  
 
I don't think that you can translate 1400 deaths by firearms into 1400 less
deaths were the firearms eliminated.  If there were no guns available, how
many of those 1400 would have been shot with bow and arrow or blowguns?  Some
of those 1400 deaths were, no doubt deliberate.  How many of those gunshots
would have been replaced by stabs with something pointy?  etc.

> p.s.  Did someone REALLY try to back into a stove with dynamite up their
>       butt at Banta's party?

Newsgroups: alt.peeves,soc.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: More Things Learned at the Exploratorium
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:30:40 GMT

jennyg@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Well Paid in Name Only) writes:
] 
] So far we have no good method of distinguish-
] ing criminals and psychopaths from normal folk.  At least, not the really
] dangerous ones.

Also Worth Noting, It is Prudent NOT to have a
gathering at the Exploritorium with a Collection
of Net.Nerds the same day as there is a Special ED
class full of folks who are mentally challenged.

It is not often easy to know which group one
belongs with at times.....


ciao
drieux


ps: Yes, You can Scream "Hooters" and get the Mayors
Attention, this was Empirically Proven.



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and they may not be connected.....
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Traffic Peeves
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:02:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Distribution: alt
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)



I forgot to add the summary.

Peeve:  Taking three hours to complete what's normally an hour-and-45-
minute drive, and spending more time with my foot on the brake pedal than
on the accelerator.



Geoff

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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: If ya don't wanna talk, about it, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT (Was: Orientals . . .)
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:26:48 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan22150530@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
writes:
><Peeve:  Politics.  About as pleasant as taking a dump and just as palatable.
>
>	It really steams me when people bring up a subject that's
>	about as palatable as a turd in a punchbowl, then get 
>	defensive when some folks disagree with them.
>
>	If you don't want to hear/read opinions you don't agree
>	with, DON'T START IT UP.

CHILL, Nosy.  I'm not getting defensive about Russ and Norman bringing
up points in the Colorado Amendment 2/ general hiring practices discussion.
I don't have any illusion that either is a bigot in these matters.  I am,
however, dismayed that such bigotry does abound and that political means
must (sometimes) be used to prevent it from trashing the lives of good
people, who are intelligent and industrious enough to make a living.

Believe me, I KNOW that it's hard to turn off a politician once s/he has
been "unleashed" but I still feel that it's worthwhile, in some cases...

   don
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Inauguration Parade Coverage (Was: Statistical bullshit)
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<C17z08.9ns@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<ATAYLOR.93Jan22093455@gauss.nmsu.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:14:12 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:34:55 GMT, ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) yirns:
Noserator> 	What I want to know is:

Noserator> 	1. How can the Clintonoids SELL the rights to the
Noserator> 	   Inauguration to HBO? How can a the rights to a
Noserator> 	   public event, held on Federal property, be sold?

Only the Federal govt would want to own it anyway.

Noserator> 	2. Who, aside from "yellow-dog-Democrats" like Larry,
Noserator> 	   actually sat through that yawner?

Even a yeller dawg Democrat cain't watch it. I don't get HBO. Besides, I
was too busy watching the Nina's Toys tape for the 18th time.

Noserator> ObPeeve: politics on alt.peeves.

Peeve: Alan, would you ever think that all this obligatory Ob-prefixing
       everything might wear a little thin?

Besides, politics is about as peevesome a subject as there is.

AntiPeeve: Sunshine. Again. At last. Now if you California/Arizona people
           will stop sending us all your rain clouds, we normally-
           mild-mannered New Mexicans would appreciate it.

Because a day without sunshine is like.. NIGHT.
L.
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth)
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:07:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.015916.17175@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>In article <zOrls*p01@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au
>(Andrew Clayton) writes:
>>"Her nipples went 'spung'."
>>                     Number of the Beast.
>>                     Robert A. Heinlein.
>
>Whoah Dac, you're scaring me now.
>
>Gun control politics are one things but, if you were to say you liked the
>later (after 1973, excluding "Friday")  Heinlein, you'd REALLY scare me.
>He had some good stuff to say early on but most of what he wrote after
>"Time Enough for Love" was the confused gibberish of a trepanized, horny
>old man.  Probably under the influence of animal tranquilizers.

Of course, the modal peever (or is that mean standard peeviant?) can still
find a lot to like in late Heinlein: he was, after all, foursquare in
favor of firearms, large powerful vehicles and gratuitous aardvarking to
the end, and contemptuous of bureaucrats, and incompetents.  Shitfire, the
last half of _Expanded Universe_ is pretty much a solid three-hundred-page
peeve.  

Peeve: Still, the last few novels _are_ hard to take if you read them
front-to-back. 

!Peeve: Bad Heinlein still beats hell outta no Heinlein.
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Solipsism and Don. Or "How Don made himself Thick."
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:46:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <FT9js*AZ0@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:

>Well, ain't you the fucking hero, Dan!  My brother started riding
>motorcycles at the age of 14 or so.  He smashed up his leg in
>'78, and was involved in three bike accidents on different bikes,
>two of which wrote off the bikes.  If he hadn't been ALLOWED to
>own the 750 that he lusted after, he wouldn't have been so easily
>fragged.  Teenagers are hormone driven ambulatory disaster areas.

If your brother had that many accidents,  he is/was an idiot.
He's damned lucky, and the Gene Pool is damned *un*lucky that
he screwed up his legs instead of his gonads.

I have been riding for 13 years, and have never gotten more
than a few bruises and a scrape, and I spent my youthful
follies street racing.

Some people are simply too incompetent to ride, and I
object to being restricted in *my* choice because
*your* brother is a fuckup.

The more bozos get them selves killed the better off
the world is, frankly.

>Practise skeet shooting using Don's braincells as targets. That
>should prove to be sufficiently challenging for you.

Well, they certainly aren't very active targets...

Regards, Charles
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: "1000101"
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:49:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard


> 838388@920-43994(75066 "1000101" 628859) 843844:

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                ^
                |
"38730" !? -----


858! 858!

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