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From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: could OS/2 simulate two monitors for a DOS session?
Keywords: dual monitors DOs
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:40:21 GMT

I know I've heard this idea proposed around here before, but with the
recent discussion of dual monitor support I thought I propose it again.

[for a system with only one monitor...]
Since OS/2 virtualizes much of DOS's interaction with the hardware,
would it be possible for OS/2 to make a DOS app think that there are
two screens connected and allow the user to move between virtual displays
with alt-esc (or perhaps some other key that switches only between two screens
for the same DOS app, say alt-tab) ?  Either as full screens or windows
on the desktop?

just a thought.
                                             --Ethan Gershon
                                             gershon@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Wing Commander I & II w/ OS/2 2.0
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:57:47 GMT

In article <92366.034239CXKPE@ASUACAD.BITNET> Chin , Jeffery <CXKPE@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>I'm running OS/2 2.0 on a 486/33 and I'm trying to get WC I & II to run
>acceptably.  They are running very slowly and the sound is out of synch or
>corrupted.  I'm only using the PC speaker for the sound.

I was rather shocked when I installed WC I christmas night (thanks dad!) and
it ran fine.  Of course, I've got a default DOS window with all the typical
settings (timer access on, video refresh emulation off, etc).  I'm on a 50 Mhz
486 with a soundblaster, disk formatted with HPFS.

I wish game companies would get with the program and adjust the speed of their
programs to the speed of the computer.  At 50 Mhz the game is unplayable, the
bogies have killed me before I even get a shot off.  Fortunatly I can push a
button to slow the machine down to 10 Mhz, WC is still pretty damn fast but
it's playable.  I've got other programs that are impossible at 10 Mhz.  Come on
people, for 10 years speeds have been doubling every 18 months.  It's not
unreasonable to expect action/reaction games to adjust themselves.

This brings up a feature I'd like to see in OS/2: Select processor/speed.  
Wouldn't it be nice to open your Dos settings window, select an 8088 at 4 Mhz,
and play one of your favorite games from 10 years ago on your 486/50?  I don't
care if it emulates the processor itself, I just want the speed of the 
combination emulated.

jim

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ychung@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Young Chung)
Subject: Can't seamless OS2-WIN anymore!!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:53:47 GMT


I had to reinstall my OS/2 and the service pack.  Everything went fine.
Then I installed CorelDraw and it ran fine in OS2-WIN windowed mode.
So I went to install 4DOS and 4OS2 1.0 and I used my backup copy of alieases
and config.sys.

Now, I can't run OS2-WIN windowed sessions, only full-screen.
I must be missing some important lines in my config.sys file.

NOTE:  When this config.sys was made I didn't have OS2-WIN option installed.

E-mail the reply please!!


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From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Radius XGA-2 board
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:09:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
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In a previous article, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) says:

>In article <726362760.0@iphase.infoserv.com> Ed.June@iphase.infoserv.com (Ed June) writes:
>>
>>That, and an EISA version or VESA version would be nice too...
>
>A VESA-compliant version of the XGA board is impossible.  VESA specs
>only apply to frame-buffer based boards, not to coprocessor-based
>ones.  The VESA specs would sap the XGA of all it's performance.


I think he meant a vesa local bus version, not a vesa video bios version.
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From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: Well, I bit the bullet....
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:40:28 GMT

> [trying os/2 for the first time]

Forgive the two cents here, but why are you trying out the BETA version os/2
first ? It is not as stable as the old version.

                                         sam

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From: shan@ms.uky.edu (Minghua SHAN)
Subject: OS/2 no longer restarts sessions left open. How to fix?
Keywords: restart
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:10:22 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

After one or two crashes when running dos/windows applications
OS/2 now no longer automaticly opens windows (such as folders) 
that were left open during shutdown. Does anyone know how to 
fixes this?
Thanks.

Minghua Shan
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: WORKPLACE SHELL INCONSISTENCY
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:51:02 GMT

>I can t see a reason why this has to be that way. It would be so simple to  
>allow only names to be entered (when renaming a data object or a folder)  
>that comply with the naming conventions of the file system used.
>If you have any comments on this I would appreciate your mail.

I agree.  Except that I think OS/2 would be a little easier to use
(even for new users) if all " " (spaces) mapped to "_" underlines in
the file system.  I t would only take about two minutes of looking
around the hard drive to figure out this system, and it would save
confusion about "how do I get here if the file name has a space in it."
I've taken all the spaces out of everything except OS!2 Desktop because
they annoy me as a command line fine.
From: patrice@cenparmi.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Does SimLife work with OS/2
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:28:39 GMT
Organization: CENPARMI, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada


Does the game SimLife work with OS/2. It list as a requirement the
a 386 so I am worried it will try to use some protected mode
instruction or have it's own memory manager.

I presume SimCity for windows will work since it uses windows

Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn)
Subject: Re: Reformat needed to install 2.1 over 2.1 beta?
Reply-To: soh3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Sociology, Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:32:07 GMT

In article <1ia6thINN4i@hpscit.sc.hp.com> kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin) writes:
>Yamanari (rsrodger@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
>: In article <BAB.93Jan2144950@se39.wg2.waii.com> bab@se39.wg2.waii.com (Brian Button) writes:
>: >Before I go ahead and order the 2.1 beta, I wanted to get this
>: >question answered!
>: >
>: >Once 2.1 comes out, will we have to reformat our OS/2 partitions to
>: >install it over the beta?

No. You don't have to.

>: 
>: 
>: 	If I may, as a general comment, suggest that is it *always*
>: 	preferable to install fresh than to attempt to install over a 
>: 	previous version. 
>: 
>
>I found it a real pain, but the recommended procedure from IBM appears to
>continue to be to reformat when installing a beta version over anything 
>(including a previous beta) and when installing a released version over a
>beta.

I am not too sure, but this time I did not find any such warning written
any where in the beta.  In fact, in the README file, there is a bullet
point saying: "If you installed OS/2 2.1 beta on a computer that had OS/2
2.0 preinstalled: ...."   Judging from this, 2.1 beta do not seem to mind
how you install it.

I installed the beta on top of 2.0 GA + SPG, and found that
the beta even went so far as to migrate my config.sys and preserved
all the EA's.  So when I boot up with 2.1 beta, I had exactly the same
WPS as before.

Min
From: Chris.Graham@f344.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Chris Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: I can't delete these read-only files! Help
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 12:29:46

 b> From: baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal)
 b> Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

 b> After using chkdisk i get some sort of an error about a certain directory 
 b> that is screwed up.  I tried to do a chkdsk /f .  No good, it sais the
 b> disk is locked by some other application.

Yes, the operating system itself.

 b> if you have one partition you're screwed?  I tried attrib.  That won't
 b> work becuase the files are ascii codes and even after using an editor to
 b> figure outthe codes the attrib command still didnt'work.  the direcotry
 b> sais these messed up files are taking up 3.9 gig of my 87 meg hard drive.
 b> Really cute there.  How will i get rid of these files?  

It sounds like your running on an HPFS partition. If not its the same anyway.
Simply boot off floppy and run check disk from a floppy. NOTE do NOT switch to
your drive and run it locally, as that will lock the drive as well. If
necessary copy chkdsk to a floppy and run it from there.

-Chris


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Comm Programs
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:51:22 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan8.231519.10817@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>I'm rather disappointed with what I've tried out from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.
>And I tried almost everything there.
>I just cannot seem to get a good vt100 emulation.  Everytime I try to
>edit something (with VI, if that matters), characters get 'blanked'
>over with a left-cursor press (not backspace).  Things don't seem
>'solid'.  Y'know?
>So I end up using a Windows term program (UNIX Windows), which in the 1.04
>incarnation has excellent vt100. 
>With this in mind, can anyone point to a simple vt100 term program?  

C-Kermit 5A(188), available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
(check /pub/os2/00Index for location) is generally regarded as having
excellent VT-100 emulation.

>Also, is it generally agree that the Softterm that come swith OS/2 is unusable?

Not generally, no.  In certain respects it is rather powerful (you can
remap each individual key, for example).  Its VT-100 emulation is also
quite good.  However, it can be a bit daunting to configure, the
dialing support is not terribly sophisticated, and it won't minimize
when you are downloading a file.  (Not that that is strictly
necessary, but it is slightly inconvenient.)

>Hmm, maybe I'll look into commercial programs, I hate loading up WINOS/2 every
>time I want to check email.

On the commercial side there's HyperAccess/5 3.0 (which I use and
like, generally), TalkThru, REXXTerm, ChipChat, Dynacomm Asynchronous,
and a few others.

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From: geiri@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Geir Inge Jensen)
Subject: Which modem - internal or external ?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:46:49 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

I am planning to buy a USR Sportster modem in the near future. But should I 
buy a internal or external one ?  This is a high speed modem, and if the
UART on the internal one don't support buffered I/O, wont I then have a 
problem in OS/2 ?  If I buy a external one, I could always put a 16650AFN
UART on the I/O device. What do the people out there suggest ?


Greetings
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From: elliott@lmt.mn.org (David Elliott  MIS x 363)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Enhanced Mode???
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:47:07 GMT
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
> In article <1993Jan01.203427.18379@rose.com> victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng) writes:
> >I was just wondering how OS/2 now support 386 Enhanced mode Windows 
> >apps if this compromises system integrity like so many people have 
> >said in the past.  
> 
> An excellent question, one which I'm still investigating.
> 
> All I know is that Mathematica for Windows now works.  :-)
> 
The critical distinction, I'm told, is that OS/2 does not "run Windows
in enhanced mode", but rather "runs programs that require enhanced mode".
It does this by supplying a DLL containing the necessary Enhanced mode
entry points and mapping them into nice, wholesome OS/2 calls.  :-)
(This info is only what I've been told; I have not verified it personally.
However, it was an IBMer who made the distinction for me.)
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From: shabby@Athena.MIT.EDU (Chris Shabsin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ftp-os2 taken down?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:08:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: comp
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Has ftp-os2.nmsu.edu been taken down because of the beta being on it?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Icons in windows continually offset
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:16:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.213825.386@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
>: >Every time I open a folder, the contents are scrolled such that I need
>: >to reposition them to see them.  What *should* happen is that a window
>: >keeps the icon positions it had when you closed it (like the Mac).
>: >Would someone please tell me how to fix this annoying problem?
>: Click inside the folder with mouse button two.  Select Arrange.
>: Assuming you do a proper Shutdown (mouse button two on the desktop
>: background to bring up that menu), your icon positions should be saved.
>I tried this, and it doesn't work for me. Selecting inside the folder 
>with button 2 creates the dashed circle within the window boundaries,
>and pops up the menu. I select Arrange, and the icons are arranged. I then
>close the folder. If I open it again, the icons are unarranged as before.
>The window *does*, however, retain the screen position and size it had
>before being closed. Also, I do shutdown properly, but this has no effect
>on the icon arrangement problem..

Try an immediate Refresh after the Arrange, repeat the Arrange, then
another Refresh.

Sounds like something got "stuck."

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From: jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Ebright)
Subject: Re: Hobbes Down??
Summary: Seems Like it is...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:39:26 GMT

In article <12JAN199313215478@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:
>
> 	Is Hobbes down, or just clogged with Beta Seekers?

Hobbes responds to neither ftp nor telnet.  I tried at 04:00 EST Monday morning
and four or five times since.  No response.  (But it was there 24 hrs earlier 
with no response problems...34kbaud ftp rates)

Does anyone know what is going on?  A post in comp.os.os2.misc sure would be
nice. (Sometimes you don't realize how much you miss someone until they
are gone...)

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Subject: Re:2.1 beta disk images
From: ghdai@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:41:59 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

> i have a simple question that i hope someone will help me with.  I have transf
>ered the disk images off of hobbes and onto my hard drive. now what do i do wit
>h them ? they are to big to copy onto floppies.  any help would be greatly appr
>eciated.  feel free to respond by post or e-mail.

You can find a utility on hobbes called LOADDSKF, which will make the image
diskettes for you.

Guohuan H. Dai
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From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: Enhanced Mode???
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:14:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan01.203427.18379@rose.com>, victor.ng@rose.com (victor
ng) wrote:
> 
> 
> Date Entered: 01-01-93 15:29
> I was just wondering how OS/2 now support 386 Enhanced mode Windows 
> apps if this compromises system integrity like so many people have 
> said in the past.  
> 

I don't think enhanced mode comprimised system security.  The problem with
enchanced mode is the MS Windows violated the DPMI spec.  Windows wouldn't
allow another DPMI server to run with it.
 
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From: dbrake@cyclone.mitre.org (Dennis Brake (PSI) X7767)
Subject: Re: Can OS/2 run full size windows in small windows?
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:50:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.032235.5727@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1i58b7INNq26@newsgate.cs.pdx.edu> ericb@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (FurryLogic) writes:
>>  Not to mention a scroll-bar. If there's one nice thing about NT, windows
>>have scroll bars with nice, LARGE buffers.
>
>See the OS/2 FAQ List for a suggestion on how to have 102 line
>windows.  That's not too bad.
>
>-- 

102 lines is not enough. What we want is a command window where lines that are
scrolled off of the top are saved in a buffer. The size of the buffer should
be configurable and be able to be redirected to a file. Since I've seen and 
operated DeskView/X, I'm sold. If it would only run on top of a multitasking
kernel. Maybe Quarterdeck would consider porting it to OS/2 as a replacement
for the Worthless Shell.

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From: Brandon.Vanevery@launchpad.unc.edu (Brandon Vanevery)
Subject: A good mouse for OS/2?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:08:07 GMT


What's a good mouse for OS/2?  Something by Logitech, I presume?  Could
someone submit a brief essay about "My Favorite Mouse?"

Brandon
brandon.vanevery@bbs.oit.unc.edu

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From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:22:54 GMT
Reply-To: sam_s@NeXT.com

rbeebe@surgery.med.yale.edu (Rick Beebe) writes:
> Remember, Windows had to go through 3 
> versions and 6 YEARS before it was really usable. 
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.  Nah, too easy!  8^)

-sam

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From: durby@almaak.usc.edu (Dennis Durby)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CD-ROM Purchase Suggestions (PLEASE!!)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:00:42 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

Okay. So now I've ordered the 2.1 beta, and the November PDK. I need now 
to acquire a SCSI CD-ROM for a reasonable price. I would appreciate _ANY_ 
suggestions, experiences, etc.

My wants: CD-ROM capable of playing music, doing games support, etc., as 
well as data storage for reading, searching, etc.  I guess I want something 
that will work with multimedia stuff (SB, Gravis????), as well as with 
"regular" data storage (libraries, encyclopediae, etc.). And it must be 
OS/2 drive-able, and OS/2 friendly.

My present machine: AMI Enterprise-II EISA motherboard, 16 megs RAM, 66/DX2 
intel cpu, AMI SCSI Controller (seems to know Adaptec 174x drivers), 
Diamond Stealth VRAM 1 mb. no-drivers-yet-for-OS/2-piece-of-useless-ics 
video adapter, Toshiba 877 meg. SCSI-2 HDD, a 3.5 and a 5.25 FDD from 
TEAC. I'd like to connect the CD-ROM to the SCSI, etc.

I've not been exposed first hand to CD-ROM stuff, so I hope I'm asking the 
right questions here. I'd like to be able to install the 2.1 beta from it 
when I get it, too. So I could use a tip or nine about that!

TIA, and Happy New Year to all!!

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