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From: irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Eamon
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:52:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc11.IRIE.92Dec14045208
Distribution: comp
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA

First of all, thanks to the person who u/l the best of Eamon disk
on c.b.a2. It brought back a lot of memories.

Can someone please u/l the eamon disk with the "dungeon creator" program
that allows you to make your own eamon adventures?

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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Converting NeXT sound files to GS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 13 Dec 92 06:43:33 GMT

I was wondering if there is anything out there (for on GS) that will
convert sound files for the NeXT to stanard binary raw files that
the GS can use?

I've tried the Amiga IFF -> GS program, but it didn't work (nor did
I expected it to, just thought I try it.)

The file I got was off wuarchive.wustl.edu, called Music_of_the_Night,
if anyone cares.

Thanks in Advance.

Jimmy



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From: hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Peter Hinchliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Connections, #4. Repost.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 21:27:52 GMT
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jcitro@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU (Joe Citro) writes:


>  Joe,
>    Just a short note to thank you for the "Connections" column.  I've
>  been using it in our newsletter.  Keep up the good work

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Ditto, ditto and many times ditto for me. I don't know where you find the time
to write as many columns as you do, but please keep doing it!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
Originator: irsman@pv3207.vincent.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:26:37 GMT

Ok, here's the situation:  IBM pirate lamers running an Apple II+ emulator
have stuffed pub/nyet/apple2em/ on cco.caltech.edu with copyright disk images
and ROM images.  Todd Whitesel can do nothing about this since that's not
his area of the archive.  Therefore, if as many of you as possible send protest
mail to the following, something might get done:

nyet@cco.caltech.edu  (its his fault in the first place)
root@cco.caltech.edu  (they can bust his balls)

II Infinitum, on machines which say "Apple" on the case!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kentm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:52:24 GMT

In article <jmk3.724149742@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell) writes:

>And, what month in '83 did the IIe come out? (ie- will it hit 10 years old
>soon?)

The Apple IIe was released on 23 January 1983.

Mike

...who got his II+ on 23 December 1982.

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From: flash@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Glenn Koproske)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:00:26 CST

cmcurtin@bluemoon.use.com (Matthew Curtin) writes:

>Your Apple II is no less useful now than it was when you bought it. In 
>fact, it's probably considerably more useful. So enjoy it, and don't 
>squeal - it doesn't do anyone any good. And it won't make you feel any 
>better.

Truer words hath naught been spoke.  Although my job is MS-DOS machines, I
can't think of anything they can do that I can't do with my IIe, and there
are a few things I can do with my IIe that can't be done (or are not
permitted in a corporate environment) on those steenkin' MS-DOS machines.

Support?  Between my User Group and Quality Computers, I have all the support
anyone could ever want.  New software?  Geez, I've still got a gazillion
disks I downloaded from GEnie and the like that I haven't plowed through yet.

Besides, if I bought a new computer, my wife would kill me.  This one still
works.  What do I need another one for?

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From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Several II+ questions (newbie!)
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:22:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)



	I just 'inherited' a slightly battered II+ and I have a few
questions about it that I hope you Apple gurus can answer.

1.  The machine appears to have 3 banks of 16k chips, except that the last
chip in one bank has been removed and a cable has been connected in it's
place.  The cable runs to a 'language card'.  What *is* a language card? 
Some sort of enhancement (like IBM PCjr cartridge basic)?  A RAM expander? 
Something else?  

2.  Is this machine capable of displaying 80 column text?

3.  Is there a way I can add an RS232 serial port?

4.  The disk drive appears to be broken.  When you turn on the machine it
moves the heads around (resetting itself?) and then it just keeps running
forever.  (The drive says "DISK II" on the front and is labeled "drive 1"
and connected to the "drive 1" connector on the card installed in the
machine.  Is this a common (and easily repairable) problem?  

Thanks in advance for your help.  Who knows, maybe I can resurrect this
thing.  (It's got a whole pile of games and I love the keyboard.  It'd make
a very passable terminal if it can do 80 col text.)  Thanks again.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: Printer Spooler
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:11:11 GMT

In article <59370001@acf3.NYU.EDU> bary@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jeffrey Bary) writes:
>Is there a printer spooler that will allow me continue
>using Works while printing on my Imagewriter II ? The Imagewriter
>is so slow.

What word processor are you talking about?  AppleWorks, AppleWorks GS, 
Word Works??  Sorry, I'm not familiar with one just called "Works"

If you are the proud owner of a GS, and you are using a GS-specific
program, you can get EXPRESS.  This program can be purchased from
practically any mail-order Apple II company.

EXPRESS is a CDev that spools your printout to your disk, then prints
it (slowly) in the background.  Your printing doesn't get done sooner,
but you do get your computer back so you can work on other stuff.

EXPRESS requires a hard drive.

	Later,
		...Mike


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From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: More on printing!
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:44:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
: In article <1992Dec15.233430.29905@slate.mines.colorado.edu> gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC) writes:
: I don't see how examining the ProDOS 8 block device list helps at all...
: there can be a printer card in the same slot that P8 is using for a
: "remapped" block device.

    As I said.  I hadn't thought it through very much.  I answered my own
question (at least this speculation.) a little while after the post.
 
: The GS Firmware Reference must be talking about the built-in serial
: ports, which are indeed slots 1 and 2, when they are chosen in the
: Control Panel.  But the user could easily have a printer card in any
: slot.

    O.K.  That is what I wanted to know.
 
: So it seems you should examine $00/Cnxx to see which slots have the
: right ID bytes to follow the BASIC or Pascal character I/O conventions.
: There is information in the Firmware Reference and the Technical Notes
: (especially Apple II Miscellaneous #8, for the Pascal ID bytes).

    So I need to support both Pascal and Basic protocols.  Is that what you
are saying?  Let's say I only want to support only Pascal.(not that I am)
How many printers actually use the Basic Protocol.  In the firmware
reference it states that the Pascal always needs a linefeed unless you do
blah blah.  What about this?  It is no big deal because you can turn them
on or off in the interface I have but just a question.  I will look at the
Misc note #8.  I thought I had them all at home anyway but I don't remember
this tech note given in the index.  Of course, I reserve the right to be
absolutely wrong.

Gary
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cmcurtin@bluemoon.use.com (Matthew Curtin)
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:44:14 EST

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
> >Ok, here's the situation:  IBM pirate lamers running an Apple II+ emulator
> >have stuffed pub/nyet/apple2em/ on cco.caltech.edu with copyright disk image
> >and ROM images.  Todd Whitesel can do nothing about this since that's not
> >his area of the archive.  Therefore, if as many of you as possible send prot
> 
> Hey, don't flood them!  The copyrighted disk images (karateka, Bolo,
> etc.) got nuked over a month ago.  Take a look and see if there's
> anything new, but I don't see anything on a quick peruse.

um, I doubt it. I didn't see that they were gone until AFTER I sent mail. 
Fortunately, I was civil the first time around, and I don't think he'll 
consider me a total jerk (I tried to keep it as an informational message, 
not a threat of calling the feds or whatnot...)


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From: green@plains.NoDak.edu (Brad Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Info AOL
Date: 13 Dec 92 04:25:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bz6KA1.GzF
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The only problem with Genie is that here in North Dakota, we only have one
local number for them, and it's across the state in Fargo (I'm in Minot).
Gets rather expensive when you add LD charges.  How are they at adding new
numbers?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Learn programming?
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:06:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped ustai@g.ms.uky.edu's lips:
> 
> 	I have an idea for a da/init.  Upon boot up and when it crosses
> midnight, it would check a designated appleworks classic/gs db file for names
> and birthdays and stick in either on a line at the bottom of the screen or in a
> window or make a sign somewhere that there's yet again someone you forgot to
> send a birthday card to.

    Basically what the Appointment CDA in Prosel-16 does.  ;-)  Checking
the time once a minute or so isn't difficult and doesn't eat up processor
time.  Menu clocks and NDA clocks do it all the time.  You really wouldn't
need a database file.  A formatted text file should do (just to save you
the hassle of understanding the AW/AWGS DB format).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Apple IIc to Apple IIe upgrade
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:48:18 GMT

In article <83S=LV-@engin.umich.edu> gadget@engin.umich.edu (Timothy David Sharpe) writes:
>A friend of mine has several games for the IIe which he would like to 
>be able to play.  However, he doesn't want to part with his IIc.  Does
>anyone have the upgrade who would be willin to donate/sell it?

No upgrade is needed; the IIc should be able to run all the same
software as the IIe.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lgarde@scorch.apana.org.au (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: NuLib v3.23 now available
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:38:00 GMT

fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:

|In article <9212132358.AA26544@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
|>    I keep getting permission errors when I tried untarring NuLib.  It
|>won't let me create the files because I don't own them.  Is there some flag
|>in tar I don't know about?  -o and -p don't seem to help.

|Your version of tar must be brain-dead; I've never seen this happen before.

Well, maybe its not 'tar' which is causing Brian's problem ...
It maybe the operating system which doesnt allow him to create files
he doesnt own. (Quite likely, I'd say ..)

The solution : yes there probably is a flag you 'dont know about'.
It would be one which makes all files , that you untar, yours.

IE: it wont try to untar files as somebody elses,
    it untar's the files with you as owner. 
go find out which flag that is !

leon
From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: //e enhancement kit needed
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:31:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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The best prices I have seen are at AllTech Electronics. 619-721-7733.
Tell them Steve from Apple Elite II.
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From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Gutenberg processor...
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:28:31 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi, i just realised that i had 12 disks that were made with the Gutenberg
word processor on an apple II a very long time ago. I wouldn't care for
these disks if they didn't had the complete bibliography (commented) of
all my books (and my father's also). Our apple IIe is non-functionnal
nor any software. I can get access to an apple IIc or a IIe but i do not
have Gutenberg and dont know were i can find it. (These disks have a
special format...).

Thanks,
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From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: What's foundation? (Was Re: choosing sides)
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:52:33 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1gfusaINN7r6@uwm.edu>, greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis) writes:
> Yesterday, as I sat in Marc Wolfgram's dungeon that he calls a basement, I had
> the opportunity to peruse over the Foundation updates that were being sent out.
> It was really kind of funny, because with the exception of a few, I knew almost
> everyone on the list. Marc and I talked about this, and how "dreadfully small"
> the Apple II development community has become.

Hiya,
	What's "foundation"?  I have been hearing a bit of this name, but I
haven't been keeping track of this group as much as I liked.  What's the
progress report on the Soundmeister (?) and the rest of the stuff?  Is it
possible for a list of current and vaporware to be posted along with the faq? 
	If you think no one else would be interested in reading about the
"foundation" again, email would be fine.  Thanx in advance.  Ciao.

-Tai
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 08:22:00 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need help with LineEdit Control flags
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <123400005@hpindda.cup.hp.com> David Tribby writes:
>I'm writing a desktop program that displays text values that the
>program (not the user) updates in a window.
> <stuff deleted>
>a HiliteControl(0x00FF, ... ) for each of the line edit controls in
>the window so that users can't modify the text.

I think the 'don't unhilite TE items' rule is there since you don't want
to limit people inputting text in a field (I can think of a few examples
where you might want to do this, though).  However, in your app, I think
the use of static text fields would be more in the HIG, since you never
let the user change the values.  It would be confusing to se a text _edit_
field which could never be editted.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:54:22 GMT

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

>  --"MultiFinder"-style multitasking is cooperative, not preemptive,
>    and therefore does not require the system software to be reentrant
>    (Macintosh system software is not generally reentrant, either).

  And that's too bad, because it wouldn't have been much more difficult
to do it the right way.  Stopping all tasks while in a modal dialog
is one example where the cooperative philosophy breaks down when
applied on top of a non-multitasking system (as MultiFinder was).

>  --Reentrant system software is considerably harder to design, implement,
>    test, debug, maintain, and extend.  This is an understatement.

  As someone who knows his way around preemptive systems quite a bit,
I have this to add: preemptive systems (like GNO and UNIX) are generally
not reentrant, either. UNIXes make use of data structures called
semaphores, which integrate with the kernel and protect non-reentrant parts
of code (if properly used).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Turbo IDE Card description
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:20:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.010748.13116@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu) writes:
>>>	Although, in theory, you should be able to use the //e version
>>>in both machines.  That way, you wouldn't have to swap ROM chips.
>>True. But then, on the GS, you'd probably have less speed under P8. Oh well
>Wouldn't it be easier to just use a larger capacity ROM chip and select
>//e | //gs using a single jumper?

Would be, yes. The ROM is 64k now, if I recall correctly, so you'd have to make
it 128k. I guess the inventor figured it wasn't worth the cost.
(The ROM is not only machine specific, it is also slot specific (again, the
speed). You choose your slot with dip switches :)

Soenke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greg@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Greg Pisanich)
Subject: where do I get Operating systems updates?
Summary: Where do I get OS updates for the Apple GS
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:28:45 GMT

Hi, I'm helping out a disadvantaged family that has an Apple II GS.
I was able to get some public domain editing software, but alas, the
operating system they have is fairly old, 3 or 4.something, and this
software needs 5.something or better.

Where do you go to get Operating System updates?  To an apple dealer, or
is there an easier way? (are they available somewhere for downloading?)

Thanks for any help.

Greg Pisanich   greg@eos.arc.nasa.gov


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:49:34 GMT

cmcurtin@bluemoon.use.com (Matthew Curtin) writes:
>um, I doubt it. I didn't see that they were gone until AFTER I sent mail. 

Well, it was a double... the copyrighted disks went last month, but
apparently the ROMs were still there until recently.
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