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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:51:20 -0400
From:         Timothy Wegner <twegner@MWUNIX.MITRE.ORG>
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Re several people who have requested a floppy-runnable Fractint. We currently
store the on-line docs inside the executable. We could allow the use of a
separate fractint.hlp file, which would allow the executable to be on one
disk, the help on another. Would that help? I'd like to get a feel for how
many people are affected by this. Generally while we don't want to leave people
behind, neither do we want to have the program become stagnant by burdening
it with too much backward compatibility. Splitting out the fractint.hlp into
a file might be a good compromise. We have avoided splitting up Fractint
because it is awfully frustrating to get the program with critical files
missing.
From: stephenl@castle.ed.ac.uk (Stephen Lambie)
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Date: 8 Apr 92 21:28:57 GMT
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C549597@UMCVMB.BITNET writes:

>I think I've seen this question discussed here, but don't recall the
>answer.   Is is there a version of Fractint that will run on SUN
>workstations?  If so, where can I ftp it?  Is it in source or executable
>form?

Xfractint/"xfract100.shar.Z" for Sun/Xwindows is availiable from
sprite.berkeley.edu.

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From:         Walter Carnahan <PHTWALT@INDSVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cellular Automata
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          What is the most straightforward tool for starting to model
          with cellular automata?  We're PC-based here, would like to
          check out shareware/freeware as well as commercial products.
          I've played around using spreadsheets, but this was
          cumbersome.  Any offerings out there?

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  Jeffrey G. Borchers             Tel: 503-750-7264

        Autodesk offers two products. One is their 'Chaos' software
( ~ $60.) which includes a cellular automaton section. Several rules
and the ability to change the parameters. I have this and it is
pretty neat.
        The other is something called Rudy Ruckers cellular lab or
something. This I haven't seen. Ive just seen it advertised. But Rucker
contributed to the programming of 'Chaos' and most of Autodesk's stuff
is pretty good.
                Walt Carnahan
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              "Israel Fonseca Neto" at Apr 13, 92 1:24 pm

        Hi novice student.

  The standard work in the subject of fractals is "The fractal geometry of
  nature" by Benoit B. Mandelbrot. You should find it in the universityos
  library. More information about books I can give you tomorrow because I don`t
 remember it all. If you can`t get books on that subject in the library or in
 your local bookstore you can order it from a company in U.K. The adress I can
 give you later.
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From:         Marc <MARC@MPI.NL>
Subject:      Re: Fractal music

Fabio Kohn writes

> I have some ideas about using fractals in musical composition but I have only
   a
>    intuition that fractals can be used in musical analisys.
> Have you already heard about fractal musical analysis ?


This is what I've come across in the latest issue of P&P:

Gregson, R. A., and Harvey, J.P. (1992) Similarities of low dimensional
chaotic auditory attractor sequences to quasirandom noise. Perception and
Psychophysics, 1992, 51 (3), 267-278.

Maybe it's of some use?

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:58:59 EDT
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Subject:      Chaos and Graphics

The latest issue of "Computers and Graphics" is a special issue
on chaos and fractals.  Topics include:

- Synthesizing extraterrestrial terrain
- Chaos and graphics of genetic sequences
- The Mandelbrot set
- Chaotic Attractors
and more, with lots of nice color illustrations.

Inquiries regarding this special issue can be made via internet at
PPI@PERGAMON.COM

The issue is volume 16, Number 1, 1992.
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From:         "N. Nahum Goldmann" <ACOUST@BNR.CA>
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To:  David Lester

In reply to your message.

Dear David

Thanks for your suggestion to post the attached announcement on FRAC-L.
I believe that this book could be of interest to its participants.

Greetings

Nahum Goldmann
<acoust@BNR.CA>


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price Paper $17.95, Hard $29.95) is amongst a limited number of
publications on computerized information retrieval specifically addressed
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From:         Walter Carnahan <PHTWALT@INDSVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fractal music
X-cc:         kon@ime.usp.br

 I'm making a research on the use of fractals in music analysis and composition.
    I write programs in C that generate "fractal music" using Recursive Subdivis
   ions, IFS, 1/f noise and Brownian Motion.

 I'd like to contact people that is interested in this area and I like to know t
   he work of them.

 I have some ideas about using fractals in musical composition but I have only a
    intuition that fractals can be used in musical analisys.
 Have you already heard about fractal musical analysis ?

Fabio Kon - Computer Science graduate student
          - Music (percussion) undergraduate student

 Fabio,

        Try
                Douglas Keefe
                School of Music
                University of Washington
                Seattle, Wa 98195

He is a physicist by traing and very knowledgeable. I believe that he has
published some work on the fractal analysis of a particular style of
reed playing.
                Walt Carnahan
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From:         "M. Shaheen" <u27108@UY.NCSA.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Fractals in Engineering 92

Dear Sirs
   I recieved an announcement through e-mail about a conference,
"Fractals in Engineering 92", at Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal,
Quebec, Canada.
   The topic of this conference is of particular intrest to me,
since I apply the fractal ideas to the simulation of surfaces in the
problem of Plasma-Surface interactions.
   I would like to recieve more information about this event. If
you are familiar with it, please forward any information plus
the address to contact for registration to
              U27108@uy.ncsa.uiuc.edu
I appreciate your help regarding this matter. Thank you,

M. Shaheen
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From:         Dylan Tusler <s314262@CS.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      RE: (No subject)
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I have version 10.? at home, and when I got it, it was on one
disk in a pkunzip exe file (self extracting) which was able
to easily fit on one 360k.

The executable file also fits easily on one disk, but it is
difficult to save many screens (especially at high resolution)
on the remaining space.

Frankly, why would anyone have a decent monitor and no hard drive
and consider using fractint?

Otherwise, if you do have a hard drive, just use dos backup
to transfer the files to more than one floppy disk.

Dylan.
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Gregory isn't the only one who'd like to get a smaller version of fractint.
I've looked through several archives and haven't found any MS-DOS version
of fractint that I can transfer on a floppy.  (Fortunately my PC is hooked up
to a network.)  Any information on where to find a smaller version would be
appreciated.
Eugene F. Gross
GROSS55367@DUQ3.DUQ.EDU
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From:         Dylan Tusler <s314262@CS.UQ.OZ.AU>
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There is mail concerning a more recent version of Fractint and giving
rough directions on how to get it.

If you are looking for a floppy disk version, see this mailing.
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From:         Roberto Perli <PERLIR@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fractals in Economy?
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==> Could you tell me about fractals in economy?
==> I know about the article in Mondelbrot's book.
==> I appreciate the answer!
==>
==> Radek Pruchnik
==> KID06@PLWRAE51.BITNET


Dear Radek,

a very good reference for chaos in economics is the "soon" to be published
(or maybe already published: it is in the '92 catalog) book by Alfredo
Medio: Chaotic Dynamics... from Cambridge University Press; it also
includes a good software. There is another book by Richard Goodwin, Oxford
University Press (1990 or 1991). There are also many articles published in a
number of journals; the most recent, as far as I know, seems to be
Invernizzi-Medio, Journal of Mathematical Economics, Dec. 1991 (a bit
technical). If you are interested in the next days I can send you a more
detailed list of references. Also try to give a look at the early
Mandelbrot's papers (those in the '60) about the distribution of the prices,
H spectra, etc: you can find the exact references in any Mandelbrot's book).
I think they are very interesting, even though they haven't had a great
success among economists.

Yours

Roberto Perli
Dept. of Economics
New York University
269 Mercer Street
New York, NY 10003
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From:         Jeff Borchers <borcherj@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Cellular Automata
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          What is the most straightforward tool for starting to model
          with cellular automata?  We're PC-based here, would like to
          check out shareware/freeware as well as commercial products.
          I've played around using spreadsheets, but this was
          cumbersome.  Any offerings out there?

 ---------------------------------------------------------------
  Jeffrey G. Borchers             Tel: 503-750-7264
  Department of Forest Science    FAX: 503-737-1303
  Oregon State University         <borchers@fsl.orst.edu>
  Corvallis, OR 97331             <borcherj@ccmail.orst.edu>
  USA
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From:         Tom Frenkel <FRENKEL@CPMAIL-AM.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Seek Huge-File PC Editor
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Hi-- Sorry if this isn't the best place for my question, but I don't
know of a better one (does anyone?) ...
     I'm looking for a PC text editor (NOT a word processor, just
plain old ASCII text) that will "transparently" edit huge files (on
the order of megabytes), without "Complete File Not Loaded" hassles.
For example:  I have a 120-page-long file that I want to print.
I've already printed the first 100 pages, so I'd like to delete them
and just have pages 101-120 left in the file to print.  No PC ASCII
editor I've tried (e.g. QEDIT, Norton Editor) seems to be able to do
this.
      Thank you all...            Tom
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:36:25 -0400
From:         Fabio Kon <kon@IME.USP.BR>
Subject:      Fractal music

 I'm making a research on the use of fractals in music analysis and composition.
    I write programs in C that generate "fractal music" using Recursive Subdivis
   ions, IFS, 1/f noise and Brownian Motion.

 I'd like to contact people that is interested in this area and I like to know t
   he work of them.

 I have some ideas about using fractals in musical composition but I have only a
    intuition that fractals can be used in musical analisys.


 Have you already heard about fractal musical analysis ?
 Do you have any ideas in this area ?

 Sorry for my poor English and Thanks a lot for your attention.

Fabio Kon - Computer Science graduate student
          - Music (percussion) undergraduate student

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From:         Israel Fonseca Neto <ISRAEL@BRUFPB2.BITNET>
Subject:      I need information about books...

              Hi all list-colleagues.

         I'm a novice student of dynamical systems, and I need information
  about books in this subject, concerned with  fractal  geometry,  fractal
  models in Mathematics, and introductory information about that.
         I need informations about how to obtain the program FRACTINT, for
  viewing the fractals curves, surfaces etc. In which node has a ftp  with
  this software?
         Thank's in advance

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Subject:      Happy Easter

hello world !!!

I wanna wish you a

        HAPPY  AND  PEACEFULL  EASTER  '92   !!!

VOLKER



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Subject:      tiny little small fractint needed

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Subject:    tiny little small fractint needed
i've rewritten to this list about a small version of fractint.
in fact i've found version 15.1 and i really managed to get it finally.
BUT, is there any smaller one ? i mean i don't really care if it is the 1st.
i need vga,ega support and 286 +386 support too.i don't mind if there are
few fractal types.(of course i need to run it from a floppy)
thanks very much on behalf
tsakaleris gregory
agriculture engineerer in
thessaloniki university
greece .
eacz02yj@grtheun1.bitnet
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Date sent: 10-APR-1992

>i'd like to know an ftp site where i can get an old  version of fractint
>that can be run from a floppy disk of 360k.
>fractint v 17.2 is much too big for a single floppy...
>please send your mail to eacz02yj@grtheun1.bitnet
>tsakaleris gregory ,agriculture engineerer
>thessaloniki university,greece.
>
>thanks on behalf.

I have an OLD version, I believe it to be 1.0, or 10.0.

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Can I please have my name removed from this mailing list as I now
must pay for uucp mail....

thanks,
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>
>
> I have version 10.? at home, and when I got it, it was on one
> disk in a pkunzip exe file (self extracting) which was able
> to easily fit on one 360k.
>
> The executable file also fits easily on one disk, but it is
> difficult to save many screens (especially at high resolution)
> on the remaining space.
>
> Frankly, why would anyone have a decent monitor and no hard drive
> and consider using fractint?
>
> Otherwise, if you do have a hard drive, just use dos backup
> to transfer the files to more than one floppy disk.
>
> Dylan.

assuming someone needs only to run the program and not to save any picturesis
your version fully capable of running from a floppy of 360k ??
if it does please do send the file to my address.i suppose that it will be inta
ct and will be able to run after the transportation.


tsakaleris gregory
agriculture engineerer in
thessaloniki university
greece
eacz02yj@grtheun1.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:04:11 CDT
From:         Dave Uherka <UHERKA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Fractal Program Generator

On Tue, 7 Apr 92 08:25:57 CDT you said:
>
>Please, could you give me the complete email address of na-net? I am
>quite interested in numerical analysis stuff. Thank you.
>
>R. Perli

The Internet host is na-net.ornl.gov at Oak Ridge National
Lab.  To ask questions about the net send them to
nanet@na-net.ornl.gov.  To get a file on how to subscribe,
unsubscribe, etc. send mail to na.help@na-net.ornl.gov
(evidently any kind of mail will do).  To join the net
send mail to na.join@na-net.ornl.gov with the following
three fields in the message body.

Lastname:
Firstname:
E-mail:

Dave Uherka
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