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From: zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What's Your Favorite Kind of Cat?
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:00:36 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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: >In article <1gl2fpq@rpi.edu> petitc@vccsouth02.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
: >I was wondering---what's your favorite kind of cat?  Siamese, Persian,
: >Tomcat, Rex?

Maine coon!!!


John
zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: cs431109@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs431109)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat in heat?
Date: 1 Jan 1993 08:25:45 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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In article <1992Dec31.075707.554@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:
>
>My cat is probably about 9 months old, and she's making funny mewling
>noises,
>is rolling over on the floor, and when I do the ol' *pat the cat on the
>rump so that its hindquarters go up in the air* trick, her haunches
>shoot way up into the air higher than normal. Does this mean my cat is
>in heat?
>
>Well, I guess I'll take her in to get fixed (or broken, as the
>operation seems to render a great amount of disrepair.) Even though
>part of me doesn't wanna do that to a cat (how would I like it if it
>happened to me ?) I can't afford taking care of a whole litter of them
>at least in a humane fashion.
>
>Anyhow, she's an indoor cat, so I don't have an immediate concerns.
>
>joe & chloe

Your cat is definately in heat, and she is most certainly
frustrated and UNHAPPY! You may think there is no immediate
problem, but she certainly does. She will try anything to escape
and if she does not succeed, she will become more and more
UPSET. Carmen, my siamese, used to pee on my bed during her
cycle to let me know how pissed she was at me for not letting
her mate. As soon as I had her spayed, the behavior quit. She
peed in the same spot -- right near MY pillow -- every cycle.

Cats are not humans, and we tend too much to think they feel
about their reproductive abilities the way we do. They don't
spend years caring for children -- most could care less what
happens to their kittens after about 8 weeks. Please don't
associate having a cat neutered or spayed with having a human
sterilized. It's just not the same. The cat will be much happier!
AND HEALTHIER!!! They won't be prone to reproductive organ cancers,
they will get into fewer fights, they will be psychologically
happier!! There are far too many kittens in shelters to even
think about breeding a cat -- unless you have a purebred and
want to bread for showing, etc.  And keeping your unfixed
cat locked up is just going to make her very very very
frustrated and PISSED at you!

You would never know my two cats are fixed unless you spent
several weeks with them and noticed they don't come into heat.
They are active, slim (unlike their human caretaker), and
perfectly happy. Carmen hasn't peed on my bed for over 3 years.
Let me tell you, there's nothing like laying down at night to
go to sleep and finding yourself in a puddle of cat pee!

As Bob Barker says, "please help control the pet population!
have your cat spayed or neutered." Trust me on this, your cat
will be MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH happier!!!! If you want to always
have a kitten around, or have one once in a while, get new
kittens from the shelter, don't make your own!
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Melaleuca?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 21:59:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <1992Dec20.093852.5434@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.124556.9292@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>Interesting conversation with my vet's assistant the other day... she'd
>>bought something called "melaleuca", presumably some sort of extract of
>>_Melaleuca_, a close relative of Eucalyptus. Found it at a dog show in
>


It is an anti-fungal/anti-bacterial agent.  I used it when
I got ringworm.  It was the main ingredient in my husband's
anti-dandruff shampoo (Paul Mitchell's Tea Tree Special Shampoo).
I wonder if it helps rid ringworm on animals too?

Valerie (mom to Mimi)
From: beaver@esl370.uucp (Robert L. Beaver (Systems Admin))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A welcome home surprise
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:17:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Research Technology, Rochester NY


I was watching a special on cats the other day.  They were discussing
the topic of whether hunting was instinctual or not.  They concluded that
hunting was instinctual, but what to hunt was taught.  (They had a cat
who was best friends with a little white mouse while it still hunted birds).  

They also indicated that "pet" cats play with their prey more than
wild (ferrel) cats because they don't have as much need to hunt.  
To them it is a game, where as wild cats need to hunt to survive.

The show went on to say that most house cats are really kittens that 
grew up physically, but not emotionally/mentally.  Thus, house cats 
play, purr, romp around more, and other cute kitten like things (and play 
with their food/prey).

Bob
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From: srscnslt@telesciences.com (SRS Consultant)
Subject: Re: Kitty Valium
Organization: TeleSciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:40:48 GMT

In article <1hnm1iINNe94@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner) writes:
>
>Who has been giving this to their cats?  Why?  Any problems or
>successes noted?  The drug was suggested as way to help deal wi/
>some behavior problems ( not *MY* cats!  they are perfect! ;-) 
>RUTH has three little monsters, and it's been suggested that she
>ask her vet about this drug)
>


	Roxy is now about nine years old.  She was decidedly _not_ thrilled
	when Emrys and Taliesin came along about two years ago (their mother
	was a stray who hung out around the apartment complex I was then
	living in).  It wasn't so bad when they were 4 week old kittens (the
	brats living around me wouldn't leave the kittens alone - the mother
	was so skittish, she kept moving them), but when they got to be 12 and
	18 pound monsters, her little 6 pound body was constantly
	reverberating with some horrific growls.

	After a year-and-a-half, however, she accepted the inevitability of
	their presence.  But when I moved in with my girlfriend (and her two
	cats, _and_ her two kids) last year, Roxy got really upset.  Started
	leaving little puddles for us, and all that.

	I got some valium for her.  Basically all that it accomplished was
	that when approached (by either my two boys, or by Picasso or Chloe),
	she'd just growl a little quieter.  It really didn't help all that
	much.  I'd suggest that Ruth try some other methods for calming her
	cats.


-- 
Mitch Gorman		srscnslt@telesciences.com	emrys@cellar.org
"You can tell he's doing well by the look in inhuman eyes,
	Better not compromise -
		It won't be easy!"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann)
Subject: When the Cat is Lost...
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:18:24 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

What would you do when your cat is lost ?  Two weeks ago, we let the 
Q out into the back yard, which is, or so I thought, cat proof.  She
hasn't returned....

What we've done so far : 
1 : Made up flyers with her picture, description, and reward offer, 
    which we then rubberbanded to the front door of the houses in the
    neighborhood.
2 : Ad in the paper
3 : Regular checks of the animal shelter
4 : Register with Pet-Track 

Any other ideas ? 

Our cats have all enjoyed going out.  Knowing that totally indoor cats
live much longer lives, and knowing how much they like going out, I 
tried for the best of all worlds by trying to make the back yard into
a feline paradise with "caves" and elevated sunning platforms.  It has 
a six foot woooden fence with chicken wire at the top and bottom to
discourage escape artists ( looks like stalag 17, with the wire canted 
over at the fence top. )  We convinced them that the back yard was *good*
( tuna, treats, and kitty games out in the backyard ), and that the front 
yard was *bad* ( any cat going out the front door ran into prolonged 
"rain" ).  Somebody drove through the fence back in the alley, and I
didn't find out until the morning....

Ritual disclaimer : My opinion and mine alone !  Convex, as best I can tell,
doesn't have opinions, being a corporate entity...
Carla Oexmann        {allegra, sun, harvard, uiucdcs, ctvax}!convex!oexmann
Convex Computer Corp.  3000 Waterview Parkway P.O. Box 833851 Richardson, TX
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Plant question
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:02:06 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Everyone has had the opinion that spider plants are OK for cats.  How come the
one time Tom got into the spider plant he had the kitty runs for the rest of
the day?  Was it coincidence?  I'd love to get a new plant, but I've always
been afraid.

-- 
Sandy Feldman
feldman@crd.ge.com

my opinions are mine and do not reflect a position of General Electric
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pandit@ssd.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
Subject: Re: Plant question
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:30:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.033244.25376@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>I am a severe chronic asthmatic, and I have been doing a lot of reading
>lately about my wonderful illness.  It seems a spider plant can help
>remove toxins from the air and produce oxygen (I know all plants do
>produce oxygen, but this one works especially well).  The question is:
>are spider plants poisonous to my kitty cats??  If not, I'm headed for
>a nursery!

Given the amount of spider plant mine and my parents' cats have eaten,
they couldn't possibly be poisonous to cats in general.  Head for the
nursery.


-- 
Milind S. Pandit			| pandit@ssd.intel.com
Operating Systems Engineer		|
Intel Supercomputer Systems Division	| Standard Disclaimers Apply
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Melaleuca?
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:37:09 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.

Kay Klier wrote:
>Interesting conversation with my vet's assistant the other day... she'd
>bought something called "melaleuca", presumably some sort of extract of
>_Melaleuca_, a close relative of Eucalyptus. Found it at a dog show in
>Chicago, where it was being sold as a substance to promote wound healing.
>She bought some, tried it on her dogs, and discovered that it does indeed
>seem to increase wound healing rates, but the dogs HATE the taste.  So do
>her cats.  (in fact, she's keeping her cats out of the Christmas tree with
>a couple of cotton balls soaked in melaleuca...)
>
>Anyone heard of this?  Tried it on cats?  

Carol Deney wrote:
>Here in Australia it is marketed as "Tea Tree Oil" and is widely sold
>as an antiseptic. I have used it on minor cuts and such and it does
>seem to speed healing. But it is GREAT news for me that cats hate it.
>I just stuck the bottle under the nose of Penny and she made an
>absolutely horrid face. A cat repellant! 


It's sold here by a somewhat suspect pyramid organization called, I
believe, Melaleuca, Inc.  An acquaintance of ours got sucked in and
after doing his spiel, provided us with samples of lip balm containing
the stuff.  Our cat, who normally likes to sit on my chest and lick my
face, won't come near me when I'm wearing it.  When I'm trying to sleep,
this is a useful feature!  :-)  Anyone know if it's sold here by a more
legitimate supplier?  Like, do health food stores maybe carry it?
-- 
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
Judy Bettinger  (judy@evolving.com)
Evolving Systems, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez)
Subject: dry catfood vs. canned???
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 01:59:52 GMT

Kay,

Your vet prefers dry cat food?  Feels that dry cat food is better?
Tell that to my cat! Bubbles would spit on dry catfood.

Actually, she doesn't spit, she makes that very characteristic
scratching motion, the kind cats use when they are burying what they have
just made in their catbox.   And when I try to foist it off on her in
lieu of the canned, she turns into an Incarnate Fiend From Hell.

They have their OWN opinions.  
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From: mpmarie@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MARIE HUCOVSKY)
Subject: tabbies?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Dec 1992 07:50 EST  

My vet told me that Harry was a tiger cat.  I wondered if a tiger is just a 
type of tabby.  She does have that M on her forehead that posters have been 
mentioning.

I wanted to mention that Spike had a cold when I first took him in.  He 
would sneeze, his nose was running and he had an eye infection (I'm not 
sure that the eye infection was related).  I took him to the vet and she 
gave him some type of medicine.  She said that even a simple cold can turn 
into a serious problem if it is not taken care of.  Spike and Harry weren't 
together very long before it was evident that Spike had passed his cold to 
Harry.  So my advice is that any sign of a cold in your cat should be dealt 
with by your vet to prevent anything worse from developing.

Merry Christmas to everyone and all your animals!

Marie, Spike and Harry 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Subject: Re: Pregnant women/litter question
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 01:42:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.200149.24162@netcom.com> wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams) writes:
>I think you can have your cats tested for toxoplasmosis.  If they don't
>have it, you don't need to worry.  Very few cases are actually caused
>by cat feces, most are from uncooked meat.

SORRY, NOT!
If your cat is negative for toxo, it probably *increases* the odds of your cat
shedding toxo oocysts at some unknown time in the future.  In fact, many
cats will test positive, and many of these will have gone through an active
oocyst shedding period at some time in the past and will be less likely
to do so again, compared to a naive cat that has just become infected.

I'm sure this is hard to follow.  The infection is permanent in cats, but
goes through a relatively short period of time in which infective toxo
oocysts are shed in the feces.  Problem is, that is the "usual" case.

Reshedding can occur, and there is no way to predict how or when.  A cat that
has just contracted the disease is very likely to begin shedding oocysts.
So the cat that tests negative is more at risk to put you at risk.  And the
cat that tests positive could put you at risk too.  The only test that
can minimize your worries is a toxo titer done before you become pregnant.
If you are positive, it substantially reduces the risk that you would become
re-infected.  And only active infection can cross the placenta and harm
the human fetus.  But this is the realm of human medicine; consult your
doctor, don't go around believing anything you read on UseNet when it comes
to your future baby.

---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vcs10.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet   AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: A moral dilemma
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:59:58 GMT
	<1i26spINNonk@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
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>
>If I (and Webster's) understand the words correctly, it seems to me that  
>it isn't necessary to neuter/spay strays. Sterilizing should suffice.
true, but since neutering is easier it doesn't matter.  most vets have
done lots of neuters, but have no experience with other forms of
sterilization.  popping the bits(testicles, ovaries, and whatevr the plural
of uterus is) out is easier and faster than fiddling 
around with tying teeny little tubes off without removing them.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: phoenix@n7kbt.rain.com (Deborah Ruppert)
Subject: Re: top ten Kitty Christmas Carols
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:57:13 GMT

Thanks to the person that posted the titles of the top 10 Kitty Christmas
Carols; I used the titles as inspiration to come up with some lyrics for
some of them. Enjoy!

**************

Wreck the Halls (The #1 Kitty Christmas Carol)

Wreck the halls along with me
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow
Eat the tinsel, climb the tree
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow
Follow me on the down the hall
meow meow meow, meow meow meow, meow meow meow
Tonight they'll get no sleep at all
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow

Christmas bring so many joys
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow
Paper, ribbon, garland toys
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow
Come along, we'll act like kittens
meow meow meow, meow meow meow, meow meow meow
For a Christmas Cat, it's fittin'
meow meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow

************

The First Miaow

The first miaow, the kitties did say
Was to waken the owner at break of day
The next miaow, as we all know
Is to get them to feed us, our bowls are quite low!
Miaow, miaow, miaow, miaow
Thus spake the kitties, so feed us right now.

***********

Silent Mice

Silent mice, hole-y mice
Because my claws were in them twice
They're not dead because I want to play
They shall live until break of day
Little micesies mine! Little micesies mine.

Silent mice, hole-y mice
I'm quite sure that they'll taste nice
When I finally kill them quite dead
Chew off their feet and bite off their heads
Tasty micesies mine! tasty micesies mine.


-- 
Deborah J. Ruppert			phoenix@n7kbt.rain.com
Goddess of Documentation

"You have to be deviant if you're going to do anything new."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: istuart@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Stuart)
Subject: Re: declawing?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 22:14:08 GMT


I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but I feel that cats are
outdoor creatures who condesend to allow humans to suppliment their diet
with inferior tinned food (from their perspective!).
A cat is a carnivore, that needs to be able to hunt within it's guarded
terratory. To restrict a cat to any indoor only environment is
psycologically damaging for the cat (in my opinion), and causes them to be
more aggressive than normal. Any attempt to minimise the damage that cats
inflict because of mental cruelty by humans *cannot* include physical
mutliation.

	CATS SHOULD NOT LIVE IN CONCRETE JUNGLES
	THEY NEED GREENERY AND LIVING PREY.

PS yes, I do live in a city. Yes, I do own a cat. Yes, I has brought me
*live* birds to teach me to hunt (it took me 2 days to get the bird out of
my house! :-( ). No, my cat will nmever be de-clawed.

Any hate mail will be read, and used to line Draws ;-)
--
--- Kiz (aka Ian Stuart) istuart@nyx.cs.du.edu
	{ Chivalry is not dead! - Just the Horse }
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Getting sick cat to eat
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:57:59 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

You may try heating his food.  Brings out the smell.

(Ick.)

Could work.

Good Luck!

M'Linda
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From: gbrower@acpub.duke.edu (Gary Brower)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cat colds?
Keywords: sneezing
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:59:47 GMT

Mr. Growl has started sneezing over the last few days.  We're wondering
if he has a cold.  All of his other behavior seems pretty normal.  

My sister-in-law's cat began sneezing, so she took him to the vet -- s/he
told her that it would be gone in a couple of days.  And so it was.

Any thoughts on suddenly-sneezing-cat-syndrome?  What do you do for a cat
with a cold?

Thanks!

Gary
GBROWER@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
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From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: How many cats?
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:58:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.165901.14999@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.024655.3680@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:
>>This may be common knowledge in the US from other sources, but I
>>just heard. An article in the 1993 Old Farmer's Almanac tells of
>>a family in Canada with 640 cats. Yes, 640. 
>
>Hmmm ... quite frankly, I'd take anything you read in the Farmer's Almanac
>with a very large grain of salt.
>
>It does make for entertaining reading, though :-).
>
>>$300 a day to feed them. And they all know their names, it is claimed.
>
>Well, it isn't hard to believe that individual cats know their names; but
>can you see these people remembering 640 cats' names? I couldn't even come 
>up with them in the first place, let alone remember them, unless some of them 
>were repeats ...
>
>(But seriously, you'd have to use population estimation techniques; you
>couldn't count them directly. Does the article describe what the place is
>like, with supposedly 640 cats pooping in the nearby area and shedding in
>the house, and the occasional accident? Even if each cat only slipped up
>once a year, that's an average of about two a day. Our two haven't had any 
>accidents in over a year, but they do on rare occasions "scootch" across the 
>floor, which still has to be cleaned up. :-) )
>-- 
>Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
>Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu

There was a photo of the inside of the house which was carpeted in
cats. The interviewer said it did smell. There are repeats in cat
names, but the claim was made that when calling a particular cat
onely that cat came forward.

Carol Denehy

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Cats and allergies
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:55:47 GMT

well, as I said before, the rex is supposed to not cause any allergic
reaction in people.  Check with vets and breeders to make sure, tho.

There are a few products available at any vet's that are either shampooed in
or sprayed on the coat to reduce allergic reactions... these products keep
the cat's dander down (quite a feat!:)  I have heard from others that they
have had more success with the shampoo in variety... it works from 3-4 weeks
at a time without needing another bath.

hope it helps! *j*

--
WE SAIL TONIGHT FOR SINGAPORE - WE'RE ALL AS MAD AS HATTERS HERE!!

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