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From: tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse)
Subject: Re: Lighting: blacklight white??
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:20:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.165807.6815@nas.nasa.gov> browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov writes:
>I've never heard of a "blacklight white" before.  Has anyone else?
>What is it?
>
>[For *.aquaria readers, Iguanas require UV light to manufacture Vitamin
>D so they can metabolize Calcium (or something like that).  In lieu of

   Don't know what blacklight white is, but you can get UVA (maybe
even UVB) from actinic05.

-Anthony
From: bell-peter@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU (vineland expatriate)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Color vision in snakes?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:37:20 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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In article <104357@netnews.upenn.edu> rowe@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.184846.17128@midway.uchicago.edu>
>     pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan6.165436.5466@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>
>     christ@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Chris Thompson) writes:

>"Precisely" aligned is a bit of a stretch.  From the abstract of a
>paper by Hartline, Kass and Loop (full citation upon request):
>
>     The infrared and visual spatiotopic tectal maps have similar but
>     not identical axes; the infrared magnification is greater than that
>     for vision.
>
>The reason for this is that the pits don't sample as large a field as
>the eyes, but the IR field of view and the visual field of view both
>fill almost the entire tectum.

Point taken.  Thanks for clarifying that.
>>The fascinating physiology here is 
>>subtended by an anatomical system in which the cranial nerve bringing in infor-
>>mation from the heat organ brings its information into register with the 
>>visual map starting at the level of the optic tectum and converging again at 
Oh, my, I need to proofread what I write more carefully.  I meant to highlight
the infrared and visual maps in the tectum, not imply that there is a map
in the cortex which contains both visual and ir information.  As far as I 
know, there is no evidence for a cortical map of visual space or ir space 
in snakes-- not that there *is not*, but that the work has not been done....
>>the level of visual cortex (if I remember correctly, the retinogeniculate
>>projection, in parallel with the retinotectal projetion, is not paralleled
>>by input from the heat organs, which catches up again through the 
>>tectal projections to the cortex.  Thus, the geniculocortical path
>>is exclusively visual while the tectal path is mixed).
>>
>>reference:  Dorsal Ventricular Ridge, Philip S. Ulinski.  Wiley Interscience,
>>1986 or thereabouts.  An excellent review textbook of central sensory 
>>processing in reptiles and in birds, with extensive direction to the primary
>>literature.
>
>Please let me know if this book contains reference to the cortical
>maps you describe above.  If so, then I will look for it.

Nope.  sorry about the misstatement!

Peter

From: ruska@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Ruska)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:45:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Breeders' list
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: dboldt@dsdbqvarsa (David Boldt (x5679))
Subject: Re: Leopard Frog Talks to Television!
Organization: United States Geological Survey
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:42:03 GMT

In article <1it1ibINNejh@pith.uoregon.edu> tenny@euclid.uoregon.edu writes:
>
>Believe it or not, the subject line says it all.  One of my leopard frogs
>has taken to calling when the TV is on (an unusual event in this house, so I
>doubt it's just by coincidence).  Now, I presume the fact that he's calling
>means he's male and reasonably contented, but why on earth would the TV
>prompt it???
>
>(BTW: the programming in question was (1) 60 Minutes showing footage of
>Nureyev dancing to Tchaikovsky; (2) local news; (3) _Cinema Paradiso_, so I
>doubt it's in response to the content. :-)

Could the bluish glow in a dark room give the impression of a moonlit night?

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                                            US Geological Survey
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From: brett@surfpix.princeton.edu (Brett Borowski)
Subject: Re: Tailbreak!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:37:53 GMT

For broken iguana tails:

Dip the stub in hydrogen peroxide about twice a day.  Apply a triple-
anti-biotic ointment after the dip.  Keep the cage CLEAN.  The stub
will scab over (very black) and you can stop dipping, though I'd continue
with the anti-biotic gook for a few more days after that.

Brett
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From: rptjr@brahms.udel.edu (Richard Terrell)
Subject: permits for reptiles
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:45:12 GMT

I moved to Delaware (oh joy!) a few months ago and was appauled to learn
that I have to pay $25 to have reptiles in this state.  Is DE the only
state screwed up enough to require permits for non-native animals or do I
have disgruntled bretheren out there in netland?  If any other states
require permits, how much are they? 
	Slightly peeved and really broke--
	Rich
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Subject: Re: Uh oh.  Thermal burn on an iguana?
From: vlloyd@eis.calstate.edu (Vicki S. Lloyd)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:54:14 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

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From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Subject: Re: Snake care sheet
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:01:18 GMT

In article <21215@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> nathan@charles.ucdavis.edu (Nathan Rollins) writes:
>
> I just wanted to share a method of getting rid of mites (Much deleted)
>
>4. Take snake, and dose with Zodiac Flea & Tick powder for cats. (Rest deleted)

What's the active ingredient in this stuff?

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
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From: gadams@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Glen Adams)
Subject: Re: Free-roaming iguanas
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:41:48 GMT

One of your problems might be that you are introducing too many things into
his/her life at once.  The iguana will need some time to adjust to his new
surroundings.  They tend to be suspicious creatures, and it takes time for 
you to earn thier trust.  When I first acquired mine, it would refuse to eat
when I was in the room.  (Much as you describe.)  After a few months of 
regular handling, he began to allow me to feed him by hand.  Now, he will
eat regardless as to who is in the room.  It will get used to being handled,
but you have to introduce it gradually, and not with too many people around.

By way of suggestion, before you let him roam around the house, make sure he
is comfortable with you.  Keep in mind, if you do let him permantly run
around the house/appartment, you will have provide the proper environment.
That will mean keeping his temperature constant.  Personally I live in a 
house with electric heat, and could not afford to do that.

He might like the windows because he can see moving things out of it.  Mine
loves to sit on a screen, and people watch.  He will watch birds, people, 
cars, boats, anything.  (Could be autistic, who knows?!?!)  

You can keep him perfectly happy having him live in a cage, you just have 
to make the cage somewhere where he would like to be.  Iguanas like to have
a vantage point in a room, because that way they can see what it going on.
Letting him/her out to run around for a while is fine, but it is up to you
to make sure that he is exploring a safe environment.  Including making
sure he stays warm.  Mine likes to hang out either on top of my monitor,
or behind the fan on my computer.  The most important thing though, is to 
introduce variables in his life gradually.


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From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Uh oh.  Thermal burn on an iguana?
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:57:21 EST


We have a common green iguana (young -- about 4-5" long with
a 10" tail).  His head appears to be getting darker (between
brown and light black) and some rusty colored spot have
appeared along his back.

I wonder if I've been letting his perching branches get too
close to the lights and that he has thermal burns.  :-(

The grow light sits on the tank's screen and Ig sits on the
branch closest to the light (which is several inches from the
light's intensity).  I wonder if I repositioned the light one
day such that it caused him to get too close...?

Anyway, might these spots and darkenings thermal burns or are
they normal coloring for growing igs?

(Sorry for my ignorance -- I've read about thermal burns, but
I've never seen a photos or an ig that suffered from them so
I don't know what they look like.)

Thanks.
Barbara





Barbara Zayas		              Software Engineering Institute
bjz@sei.cmu.edu			      Carnegie Mellon University
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From: gerard@progress.COM (Gerard Bras)
Subject: Re: Snake care sheet
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:38:22 GMT

Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer) writes:

>I had heard that this stuff is no longer available.  Am I correct?  Any good  
>alternatives?

They are very hard to find.  I bought a couple a few years ago since I heard
they were getting regulated away.  I may still have on or two if anyone is
desperate.  Since I'm not aquiring any more new stock I have little trouble
with parasites (on my snakes at least).

cheers,
gerard
From: zenpk@fourfold.ocunix.on.ca (stephen kunc)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: What do Anoles eat?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 15:49:07 -05
Distribution: world
Organization: FourFold Symmetry, Breckenridge, Quebec

tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler) writes:

> 
> Ok, first. Savannah's HATE bunny names. They are carnivores and need a
> dignified name, like Toadkiller Lizard or some such.
> 

You're absolutely right - serious animals mandate serious no-shit
names, it's a spiritual requirement. Boids, crocodilians, monitors and 
big-frogs-that-are-all-mouth will obviously sense how you feel about 
them if their names are Fluffy, Spot, Cuddles or Dolly. It goes without 
saying that elven folklore, feminine mythology, and cute palindromes 
are not the way to name your 4-foot monitor. Newts, sure. Monitors, no. 
Ya need a name that will inspire the beast to be the kind of monster 
that will drag screaming infants in its jaws out into the night, or 
something that should be seen half-obscured by mist upon English moors.
 
Obviously, nothing called Fluffy will ever be seen eating the decaying 
remains of its owner while it thrashes with its tail at the bottles of 
Jack Daniels.


Steve

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FourFold Symmetry, Breckenridge, Quebec, Canada
From: jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: are chameleons (very) difficult?
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:21:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>From what I understand from the herpetologists at our zoo, chameleons are so
shy
>that the people who work with them make every possible attempt to not even make
>eye contact with them.
>the Panther chameleons because of this advice.  These guys are not on exhibit
>and are separated in gallon glass jars in a place that is relatively isolated.
>All chameleons may not be this shy, but when I had the opportunity to get a
>chameleon, I chose not to because I knew I wouldn't be able to stay away from
>it.  I think they are wonderful.
>
>Nancy
>

I don't think this should be a valid reason for not getting a chameleon.
One could always line the tank with one-way mirror, or such similar material,
so that the lizard in question has no idea you're even peering in on him.
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: The Makeup of A Snake's Housing...
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:08:30 GMT


>I don't know what your doctor has said, but don't count out breeding because of
>allergies. I'm allergic to cats, dogs, ragweed, tree pollen, grass pollen, flowers,
>four kinds of moss, several chemicals.. the list goes on.

Me too, including laundry detergents with enzymes.

>I haven't had any problems dealing with raising mice or gerbils.

I get symptoms even from bring home a mouse from a store.
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From: twallace@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Todd Wallace)
Subject: Re: rodentia
Keywords: gerbil, rat, hamster, mice
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:38:57 GMT

Is there a rec.pets.rodents?   If not, there should be!  We
rodent owners know how fascinating and fun they can be, but we
might be boring other pet owners.

What's the consensus out there in 'net land?
From: faith@amiganet.chi.il.us (Fred Drummand)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: ferret diets
Date: 6 Jan 93 07:13:38 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <C0ADCp.9J9@news.udel.edu>, graziano@ravel.udel.edu (Lisa Marie
Graziano) writes:
>
>Here's a ferret Q:  do they need more protein than, say cats?  Should they
>eat kitten food rather than catfood?  Or is there a better way to increase
>their protein intake?
>Lisa, Chavelah, and Cheerio
>


That is a good question and id like to know a correct answer too.. For some
reason I dont think more protein could harm them, that is why i alternate.  One
time when its time to buy food, ill buy catfood, when i run out, ill buy kitten
food, then cat food again ect ect.

Dunoo.... Anybody??

Fred Drummand
Collumbia College
Graphic Arts Major
From: faith@amiganet.chi.il.us (Fred Drummand)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Ferret Wanted
Date: 9 Jan 93 16:34:13 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems



i have one Ferret and it islonily.  Im Looking for another one that is
nuetered(sp) and decented(yeah right)..  I DOnt want to pay the 'Pet Store'
price, im looking for one a bit cheaper.  If Anyone Knows where i can get one,
or if anyone has one too many, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!  I would provide a wonderful
home...


Wonderful!

Thanks

Fred Drummand
Collumbia College
Graphic Arts Major
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From: urf@icl.se (Urban F)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Tired of talk.bizarre? (advice for nn users)
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:53:55 GMT
Organization: None. On USENET I speak only for myself.
X-Alt.reply-Address: n.g.u.fredriksson.swe2001@oasis.icl.co.uk


I just took a look at USENET NEWS from another machine than this,
and noticed a number of post here that really belongs on talk.bizarre.
Normally, I always filter them out, and never see them on rec.pets,
and if your newsreader is  nn  I can show you how to do:

1.
Resubscribe to talk.bizarre 

2.
Edit your .nn/kill file and add the line

talk.bizarre:!s/:^

somewhere near the top (I _think_ is should be before
rec.pets is mentioned). This means "kill everything
that appears in talk.bizarre".

3.
Edit your .nn/init file and see to that talk.bizarre is
mentioned before rec.pets in the sequence section. If you
don't already have a sequence section, note that it must
always be last in the .nn/init file, so you could add these
lines to the end of it

sequence
talk.bizarre rec.pets
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From: sharon@phoneme.shs.uiuc.edu (Sharon Morrison)
Subject: Bat House plans -source
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:58:18 GMT

o.k. - here is the address:

Bat Conservation International, Inc.
p.o. box. 162603
Austin, Texas  78716-2603
(512) 327-9721

My information on prices may be a little out of date (from 1991 catalog),  
but I doubt that things have changed much.

They sell Official Bat House Builder's guide which include plans for a  
50-bat house (BHP-3, $2.25)

Also, Macrobat Dwelling Plans which houses 100+ bats (BHP-2, $2.25)

They also sell bat houses: Single chamber bat house: 12.5" across x 27.5"  
high x 3" deep BH-4, $34.95.

Multi-chamber bat house: 9" across x 23.5" high x 7" deep BH-3, $44.95
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From: "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Papaya tablets for bun.
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:34:10 -0500

In article <1i9h8gINNi37@bHARs12c.bnr.co.uk> agm@bnr.co.uk (Andrew G. Minter) writes:
>I have been unable to find Papaya tablets in any of our local chemists or
>health food shops. However, I did manage to get a small pack on dried
>papaya. Our bun growled at it when I first offered it to her, but she
>eventually checked it out and now she loves it. Does anyone know whether the
>amalayse is likely to have survived the processing?

Growled at it?  I'd love to see Dink growl at ANYTHING that had food
potential!  =)  He was suspect at first, however, then chomped the
first one and went nuts.  The other night I was feeding him a few, and
got curious, and popped one in my mouth.  My husband acted like I'd
eaten a spoonful of moist dogfood.  They taste like fruit flavored
sweet tarts (the papaya tablets, not dogfood *grin*).  No wonder he
likes them. 

Fresh papaya works, so if the dried is not a solution you'll probably
have no trouble getting him to eat real fruit. 


amy
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From: christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas)
Subject: Weighing instruments
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:48:30 CST

Hi all,

I am looking for something to weigh my ferrets with.
I have called stores, (hardware, sears, etc.) and no one
has anything.  I'm looking for a scale that goes up to 
at least 5 lbs., and not more than 20-30 lbs.  Oh I have
checked into baby scales (no one had any), postal scales (they 
only go up to 1 lb.), meat/ food scales (couldn't find any of
those either).  

What are you all using??  Any ideas?

Chris.
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From: ajaym@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (alton.jay.mitchell)
Subject: Ferret Eating Problems
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:11:46 GMT
Keywords: ferret health food

I have a 4 year old ferret with an eating problem that is
beginning to concern me quite a bit now.  Any ideas or past
experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Initially, Furillo would gag a bit and maybe vomit after
eating a lot (Science Diet cat food is his main diet).  It
seemed that eating a smaller amount would not cause the
same results.  This got worse until eating anything solid
resulted in hour-long sessions of vomiting.  What came up
was mostly a slightly foamy, clear liquid (digestive
fluids?) with very little food (seemed odd to me).

The vet could find no foreign objects under an xray and
tried an antibiotic and a laxative to see if that would help.
It didn't.  After more extensive xrays and consultation,
the vet has determined that he has a swollen spleen which
is definitely abnormal and a slightly swollen heart which
is borderline normal.  For this, Furillo has taken some
heart medicine as well as a diarrhetic for about a week
(not willingly I might add!).  Not much change.

Then, I started discovered bits of styrofoam (the thin sheet
kind, not the chunky stuff) in what Furillo vomited up.  I
was initially relieved that it was something he had gotten
a hold of, but the vet still can't understand the swollen
organs.

He has gotten to the point now of not eating any solid foods.
(I wouldn't either if I knew I had an hour of hell to pay for
it.)  Hence, I see no more styrofoam bits since he doesn't
vomit when he doesn't eat.  Liquids go over much better, so
I have been giving him small amounts of milk and orange juice
which he devours.  I've also increased the amount of Ferretone
I give him and the vet has given him some vitamin shots hoping
he would be eating again by now.

That's the scoop.  We go back to the vet tomorrow to discuss
options.  Does anyone know if chomping down foreign objects
like this would cause these results?  For all I know, he might
be chewing on the styrofoam because he's starving from whatever
the real problem is.  Would an operation be called for?  Are
milk and juice okay for him in small amounts?
From: lynn@elan.Elan.COM (Lynn Gazis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Spaying a bun
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:00:58 GMT
Reply-To: lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis)
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

I have read (and our experience seems to support this) that unspayed
females are also more likely than spayed females to attempt to dig
a hole in the rug.  

Lynn Gazis-Sax
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From: krk1@pyuxe.uucp (24228-knights)
Subject: Ferret Adjustments - Update
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:36:18 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.142836.16753@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> krk1@pyuxe.uucp (24228-knights) writes:
>
>Not quite three weeks ago, we added a new ferret to our zoo.
>He has a wonderful temperament and is utterly adorable, but
>we are having some adjustment problems with the other ferrets.

[Nancy Hartman writes useful advice, deleted to save bandwidth] :-)

Thanks, Nancy!

Things are going much better now.  My husband decided it was time to
let Fermi out of the cage.  Our ferrets live in our basement in
a 10' x 12' area blocked off with walls we built from paneling
and 2x2's.  In this area, they have carpet, a bed, three litter pans,
food and water dish, a hammock, a couple of boxes to play in, a
cardboard tube, and about 20' of black plastic tubing my husband
picked up at the hardware store. We had put Fermi's cage in the
middle of the area, so he could learn to use his litter, and so
the other two could get used to seeing and smelling him, but he
wouldn't be in danger of getting beaten up.  Anyway, he's been
out now for two days.  He's been sleeping in the tubes, Archimedes
is alternating between the bed and the hammock, and Tasha has
been taking turns sleeping with Archimedes and Fermi.  They are
all playing nice now, although Archimedes seems to ignore Fermi
most of the time.  He has always been a little aloof with other
ferrets, though.  Anyway, Fermi is already almost as big as Tasha,
and is completely capable of holding his own against either of the others.
In fact, they sometimes gang up on him and he still takes it, dishes
it out, and then comes back for more.  He seems to be enjoying himself
immensely.  In fact, even when Archimedes was still beating him up,
he would run across the room and fling himself at Archimedes, wrestle
a while, run away when things got rough, then come back again.

I just hope one day I'll come home from work and find all three of them
curled up somewhere together.


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have to live there."