HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: william@cithara.uucp (William Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Memory while logged in.
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:31:20 GMT
Organization: Local Testbed for network mail, we trust!

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> am curious to see how much memory is common while logged in..
> 
> With DOS low and nothing special set, I had 290k.  With DOS High, and 
> a couple of other minor things I had 315k, and now with my most recent
> changes I have 390k free while logged in.
> 
> What do the rest of you have for free memory while logged in???

I've got 360k, but that's not dos Under OS/2. Just DRDOS 6 with Hidos: on
HiBuffers and all else hi. No upper memory available for ram.

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From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Notice address change
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:43:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.i8L2TB5w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA


   I've temporarily changed my site's node name to 'twiki.UUCP' which
should prevent replies to news articles from here from bouncing.  I'll
change the address back when I have another Internet Forwarder.

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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODERATING THEM ALL
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 17:10:29 -0800
Organization: The GRAFex Company

In <LXBVTB2w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
>mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
]...[

>True, messages can get posted in moderated mainstream groups if they're
>not marked as moderated on the originating site.

>However, most backbone sites will dump messages in moderated groups
>if they don't carry an "Approved: Foo@bar" in the headers.

>UUnet produces a weekly list of junked messages due to bad headers,
>postings in moderated groups, etc. - Read news.admin to see it.

>A fair percentage of the "Unapproved messages in moderated groups"
>originate on waffle sites, and most "Whitespace in newsgroups line"
>do too, so some sys admins do need to have their wrists slapped. ;)

An undesirable 'feature' of Helldiver is that it will post to moderated groups.
Rhys is aware of the problem and it'll be fixed.

steve

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: djk@bby.com.au (David James Keegel)
Subject: Re: Sources (was Re: Reading news - N is NEXT what?! And - SIGS)
Summary: uucico is copyrighted and available separately
Keywords: source, waffle, uucico
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:12:51 GMT

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

] I'm one who has purchased the MS-DOS sources.  I don't know how many of us
] there are who have done so.  Am I the only one who feels a bit <cheated> in
] not getting the sources to the various utilities?  Yes, you read me correctly;
] the source distribution for v1.65 only includes source to WAFFLE, and does
] not include source for UUXQT, BATCH, UUCP, nor (most imporantly) does it
] include the source for UUCICO.

``Doesn't anybody read the docs before posting?''

In waffle/docs/legal.doc:
} ...
} 
} [] ABOUT UUCICO --
} 
} UUCICO.EXE is copyrighted but freely distributable. This ONLY
} applies to uucico and not to ANY other files in the Waffle package.
} You may do with it what you wish, but this file and all credits and
} copyrights must remain intact.
} ...
} Waffle's UUCICO is derived from DCP, a package released
} to the public in 1987. Because it is based on DCP, source
} for those portions are available by request.
} 
} Both DCP's and Waffle's copyrights apply to UUCICO.
} DCP is (C) Copyright 1987 R H Lamb.
} 

But having uuxqt, rmail and rnews might be interesting.
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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: wafmail for waffle 1.65?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 23:58:42 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

jim@sytex.com (Jim Arnold) writes:

> Does anyone know whether there exists a version of wafmail
> for waffle 1.65?  If so, where I can FTP it from?

Not yet. There is a new version of Wafmail being worked
on tho. Don't know the details.


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From: revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: File open errors
Keywords: DOS WIN 3.1 SuperPro SHARE
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:48:57 GMT
Organization: The Land of Garg

Hi gang;

Here is a strange one for you - first my configuration:
	386/33 PC Clone, 4 MB RAM
	Waffle 1.65, DOS 5.0, Win 3.1
	SHARE enabled
	SuperPro diskcompression utility on waffle & news drives
	         diskcompression not installed on spool and filesys drives

About once per day my waffle window loses the ability to read selected
files and directories. Quiting the window and restarting clears the 
problem. Running waffle by itself, no windows or SHARE, does not help.

What I see is file open errors:
--- uucico.log ---
|
16:15:44.20 (0) WAFFLE UUCP 1.65 - Mon Nov 09 16:15:44 1992
16:15:44.20 (0) on garg (answering), debug level 3
16:15:44.25 (2) Incoming device 1 at 600
16:15:44.25 (0) FOSSIL connection open
16:15:46.62 (0) Talking to: grafex, permit "default"
16:15:46.67 (0) Error opening c:/waffle/uucp/systems
16:15:46.67 (0) System "grafex" is not known to us
16:15:47.11 (0) Can't open status file, d:/spool/status/grafex
16:15:47.11 (0) - 0 connection(s) made -
--- end extract ---

--- errors file ---
9-Nov-92 13:46 < rnews >  | rnews: CAN'T OPEN d:/spool/unbatch/batch1, No such file or directory
9-Nov-92 13:50 < rnews >  | rnews: CAN'T OPEN d:/spool/unbatch/batch1, No such file or directory
--- end extract ---

Notes:
 C: - SuperPro drive
 D: - Non SuperPro drive

Any clues would be appreciated.

Bob

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From: Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: argh! disabled commands?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 08:01:44 PST
Organization: Halcyon's Remote

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> and I cant find Greg's or Ralph's addresses since they always have
> answers. :) (Ya, I coulda emailed them)

Bruce Becker's got my address. :)

> Is there any problems with 1.65 and the latest of Wafmail (10?)?

# /waffle/extern/_send
X   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 sx -c %i"
Y   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 sb -k %i"
Z   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 sz -m %i"
G   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 sb -k %i"
M   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 sz -m %i"

# /waffle/extern/receive
X   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 rx -c %i"
Y   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 rb -k %i"
Z   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 rz -m %i"
G   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 rb -k %i"
Q   /reset /command="e:\tools\DSZ port 2 F pG0 rx -q %i"

# /waffle/menus/files
~*
              *  NOTE - The files  section uses 'hot keys' *
                 Type the first character of each command
  [A] RC           -       Display contents of file archives (ZIP, ARC, ZOO,
                             TAR, STUFIT, etc.)
  [C] opy          -       ASCII file upload with edit
  [D] irectory     -       Directory of available files
  [F] ind          -       Find files by title
  [H] elp          -       Help on any of these topics
  [I] nfo          -       Some redundant information
  [L] og           -       Log (change to) a new directory:
                           L(og) : ~%A will get you to your personal
                           user directory and /public will return you
                           to the main files directory
  [M] aster        -       Master file directory
  [N] ew           -       New files since (date)
  [P] rotocol      -       Select default file transfer protocol
  [Q] uit          -       Exit files section
  [R] eceive       -       Upload file with ~%xmodem (Mmodem == MobyTurbo)
  [S] end          -       Download file with ~%xmodem
  [V] iew          -       Display an ASCII file, with [more]
  [.]              -       Jump back one directory level [restricted]

# /waffle/menu/protocol
~*
                NOTE: batch downloads probably work

        X   -   Xmodem (incl. Xmodem CRC and Qmodem-G DOWNLOADS)
        Q   -   Qmodem-G UPLOADS
        Y   -   Ymodem (and Ymodem-g on DOWNLOADS)
        Z   -   Zmodem (including MobyTURBO and 7-bit)
        G   -   Ymodem-g (uploads AND downloads - use an
                          error-correcting modem!)

                   Currently, ~%x  is selected.
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:29:56 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french) writes:
> 
> > Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to 
> > flame. If it bothers you that much, just list the message number and we 
> > can look back if we really care. Please don't present us with an endless 
> > parade of quoted messages.
> 
> Genius solution. Your post was number 653 here. Go read 653 and tell me
> what you see. Sheesh.

Moron. He means message-id, which _IS_ a unique number.

--
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Disclaimer: It's all my fault!

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From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Dr. Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: xfer rates, UUCP g w/o V.42bis (was: hyperdisk, aliases ..)
Keywords: editors uucico cps compression alias mail cancel cc: debug v42bis hyperdisk
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 16:14:56 MEZ
Distribution: world
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> Message-ID: <waffle-faq_720631523@aw101.isl.ca.boeing.com>
> Date: 1 Nov 92 15:25:34 GMT
> 
> |Sheesh. If you know so much about all this, you'd know v.42bis doesnt
> |recompress data (resulting in more data from overhead) if its
> |uncompressible.
> 
> However, the UUCP-g protocol apparently doesn't run very well over a line
> with v.42bis .  When connected at 16.8kbps, I was getting around 1300 cps
> using UUCP-g when v.42bis was enabled, and around 1650cps with v.42bis
> dsiabled.  I've heard this from other sources, too - disabling v.42bis
> when doing UUCP is a good idea.

Thats a general recommendation or for 16.8kbps only? 
And doesn't have the modem brands and models (and their computing power 
for data compression) have an influence too? 
(c.f. the discussions in comp.dcom.modems on these matters).

I use Waffle (1.64, 286/8, no 16650, no fossil) with a Digicom Scout+ 
(V.32bis/V.42bis/MNP2-5) for connection to a single smarthost (T2500 
with V.32/V.42bis, MNP disabled) for mail and news (where I get about 
850 cps) and see a conflict with your idea: 

Mails aren't compressed but news are normally. With V.42bis disabled you 
disable the modems to compress mail in order to improve news throughput 
which will not be compressed again anyway from the V.42bis modems??? 

Or is the turnaround time the critical factor?

Anything wrong in my reasoning? 

Klaus


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From: noam@xyz.hacktic.nl (Noam Kloos)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: external editors
Keywords: l
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 16:04:09 GMT
Organization: Nerds Meeting Point.

nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong) writes:

> noam@xyz.hacktic.nl (Noam Kloos) writes:
> 
> > What is it with external editors for callers?
> > I had no problem setting up quick edit as console editor, but
> > I can't get an editor to work over the modem line.
> > Is it so that you have to run the editor as a door and if yes
> > how do you do such a thing? need additional door software?
> > RTFM is what I already tried, maybe missed out soemthing..
> 
> you need to tell your editors file in the EXTERN directory at kind of editor 
> you have, then go to ADMIN to set editor to be used by user.
> editor mustpathed. I put in the \waffle\bin for safe.
> 
running the editor is not a problem. the problem is i do not get the
screen data over the modem line using stevie. By the way stevie is not
the best editor for a bbs.
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:31:27 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

-> I, too, gate a few lists to news.  And _posting_ works just nifty.
-> However (and I just confirmed this by testing), if you send mail to the
-> alias name from within Waffle, using an external editor, the body of the
-> message is lost.

But if you just post to the gatewayed newsgroup, 
it isn't going to go anywhere.   

You should have !list.* in your feeds file and /mod in the usenet
file.

When someone posts to the group, 
    the /mod is picked up, 
    they are asked if they wish to mail to moderator 
        or central address,
    drop into external editor to write message
    exit editor,
    message is sent central address just fine
    message is posted to local group sans message body.


-> It only occurs when sending _mail_ to the alias name.  
-> Posting to that group will work just fine.

And around to the beginning we come again.  <sigh>



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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:32:39 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> HAS ANYONE HAD SUCCESS at posting to a mailing list gated into a local
> newsgroup by MAILING to the ALIAS (| post local.group) from an external
> editor?

Sure.

I must be getting away with something though, because this conversation
leads me to believe that I'm doing something that can't be done. (Hello?
can I speak to Zeno please?)

Kludge-o-rama begins:

1) the mailing list exists as a list of names called by an alias.
      rcvrlist       +/waffle/admin/people.lst
2) in that list is an alias name (eeeeeyyyeeewwww)
	clearsil@many.zits.com
	overwate@jenny.craig.edu
	postthis
	shroom@pot.in-manure.ick
	...
3) the alias then points to a moderated local newsgroup
	postthis	|post local.news.group
4) the usenet file (I keep all newsgroup info in usenet and use the
   DEFAULT keyword to define USENET v. LOCAL) has a moderator entry.
	local.news.group /mod=rcvrlist

Note that this appears to form an endless loop. On my system, it 
doesn't. If someone POSTS to the group, it gets mailed to the mail
list --which actually posts it, along with sending it to the other
names on the list. For some reason, my system will allow an alias
to post to a moderated newsgroup WITHOUT MAILING IT TO THE MODERATOR.
Dunno why, but I like it. If one just posts to the newsgroup, it
DOES mail to the moderator.

The folks on the maillist send their stuff to the rcvrlist address,
and so their stuff gets mailed and posted too.

Seems convoluded, huh?

I came up with this after a surgery, while floating above my chair on
a demerol cushion. When reality intervened, it was still there working
so I left it alone. If you try this, it might be wise to have some kind
of medical attention and be WWI (Waffling While Intoxicated).

My system is plain dos 5, with 4dos 4.0 used as the command shell.

One final note.

In order to test this puppy, I have to write out the message to send/post
as a normal text file, then mail it via the command line:

rmail rcvrlist < sometext

If you do it from the mail prompt in Waffle, it goes off into the ether,
probably looking for demerol. Mail coming into the system from outside
works just fine --as does posting to the group (send to moderator).
--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:51:26 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> For reference, I tried mailing to an alias that was in /waffle/system/aliases
> using a local external editor, and it only posted the header.  Looks like the
> | post handling is before the reading in of the message from _edit.

Dont scare us.

You're wrong tho. Since personal aliases are severely broken, I have my
aliases in the system/aliases file.

Mailing to an alias such as    nms     pigpile@big.black.box

works mighty fine.

Only the   | post bit doesnt.

In fact, as I was saying, having an alias such as:

nms   + aliasfile

where aliasfile contains

boydrice@and.friends
cazzaza@lives.here
joe@coleman.loves.mice
gerogerigegege@like.stuffed.animals
| post local.list.city-slab-horror

it works for all the mail receivers (the 4 addresses as per above) then
the post doesnt work. (I think. I had the  | post bit aliased as well,
and not I just reduced the alias, and am about to try it when I reload
waffle.)

/kc

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Assistance with the UNIX side of UUCP linking: Email/news probs
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:50:06 GMT

tugrik@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Tugrik d'Itichi) writes:
>All through the WAFFLE manual, when it comes to the UNIX-box side of setting 
>up a UUCP feed, it says "your Unix admin will know how to do that", etc.

well, we CLAIM we'll know how to :-)

>The problem:  Mail will get OUT of the system.  It will not go back in.
>I am *registered* as a .US domain: Thunder-Island.kalamazoo.MI.US.  The
>MX record sends all email to that address to "wiley.cs.wmich.edu", which
>is where it's batched for me to get to.

>Problem.  Wiley doens't know how to translate... mail to @thunder-island.
>kalamazoo.MI.US comes in, and needs to be sent over the uucp link to
>"@Thunder", as Thunder (capitol T) is how Wiley knows my system.  So....
>the mail just collects at Wiley, with nowhere else to go.

this is not a flame, but if they can't handle that, they shouldn't be
your MX forwarder.  I'd rather it not be done at all than done half way.
Doing it half way does nobody any good.

if they're running sendmail.cf, they probably need their .cf file tweaked.
if they're running sendmail+IDA, they probably need their uucprelays file tweaked.

>Problem #2.... News comes *in* just fine.  Beatufiully, in fact.
>News going OUT.. dies.  Whatever I POST from the waffle board, batches,
>compresses (12 bit, just like the inbound news), sends... and ends up
>as "dead.article" on Wiley, never making it out.  Any suggestions?

I can see it junked on Wiley.  I can see it disappearing into /dev/null.
I can't see a remote batch of news being kicked into dead.article.  Isn't
that just for locally posted articles that can't get processed for soem
reason locally (permissions, etc.)?

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: tugrik@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Tugrik d'Itichi)
Subject: Assistance with the UNIX side of UUCP linking: Email/news probs
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:23:49 GMT

All through the WAFFLE manual, when it comes to the UNIX-box side of setting 
up a UUCP feed, it says "your Unix admin will know how to do that", etc.

Well, I have an extremely helpful admin.. but an extremely busy one.  She's
not done much UUCP before, and in her spare time (what spare time?) she's
trying to set it up.  It's going, but with problems, and I was wondering if
someone in the net.community could lend some assitance, either by posting
an answer or emailing me (and her!) at tugrik@coyote.cs.wmich.edu and
labelle@cs.wmich.edu.

It's running on a Sun 3/60 I do believe, runnign Sun OS.

The problem:  Mail will get OUT of the system.  It will not go back in.
I am *registered* as a .US domain: Thunder-Island.kalamazoo.MI.US.  The
MX record sends all email to that address to "wiley.cs.wmich.edu", which
is where it's batched for me to get to.

Problem.  Wiley doens't know how to translate... mail to @thunder-island.
kalamazoo.MI.US comes in, and needs to be sent over the uucp link to
"@Thunder", as Thunder (capitol T) is how Wiley knows my system.  So....
the mail just collects at Wiley, with nowhere else to go.
 
Problem #2.... News comes *in* just fine.  Beatufiully, in fact.
News going OUT.. dies.  Whatever I POST from the waffle board, batches,
compresses (12 bit, just like the inbound news), sends... and ends up
as "dead.article" on Wiley, never making it out.  Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your replies.. this has been a problem for about 3
weeks now, and any help that can be given will really ease the load on a 
very busy sysadmin, and a somewhat frustrated *free usenet/email* link for
an area that desperately needs one.

 If anybody is interested:

  Thunder-Island.kalamazoo.MI.US
  (616) 349-9047
  300b-14,400b, v32/42/32bis/42bis
  Running WAFFLE v1.65

--- Tugrik
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:33:34 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

-> In theory this should work.  
      ^^^^^^
Yes, but theory is not proving out in practice.

Round and round it goes.



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