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From: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Sabatini #1?
Reply-To: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 01:04:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.213108.3573@news2.cis.umn.edu> gina@boombox.micro.umn.edu (Gina Scalze) writes:
>I read today in the NY Times that Gabriela Sabatini is the new number
>one. 
><stuff deleted>
>Anyway... I just wanted to know if Sabatini is now #1 and when she became
>#1.  I hope she stays there for a while - I always liked her.
>
>anne

No.  Sabatini is not number one, nor is she anywhere close to being
number one.  Seles is number one with about 270 points, Graf is number
two with about 237 points, and Sabatini is number three with about
200 points.  Martina is only about 8 points behind her, and is becoming
a threat to take away number three, especially if Gaby loses early at
Amelia Island this week.

Perhaps the N.Y. Times said she was the number one seed at a
tournament?  Gaby has become much more consistent, but her chances of
ever being number are not good.  The closest she came, I believe, was
at the French Open last year.  Going into the tournament, Gaby, Seles,
and Graf were fighting for number one; depending on whom lost when,
any one of the three could have come out number one.  As I'm sure you
know, Seles won and battled Graf for the ranking last summer, finally
cementing a sizeable lead after the U.S. Open.

Mike
From: kho@athena.mit.edu (Karen W Ho)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Edberg
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:48:14 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hi. Can someone please post some of Edberg's stats for this year? 

Also, is there somewhere I can order posters of tennis players?

Thanks,

Karen
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From: kim%asylum.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kwansik Kim)
Subject: Re: strings
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:23:53 MDT
Keywords: tension
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Apr12.184223.22668@seas.gwu.edu> se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.160824.5619@uvmark.uucp> palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman) writes:
>>In article <v85t87l@rpi.edu> richtt@aix.rpi.edu (Timothy G. Richter) writes:
>>>> An overall increase in tension
>>>> will allow more spin.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Please correct me if I'm wrong - I thought a decrease in tension increased the
>>>spin imparted to the ball.  As the racquet makes contact, the string bed deforms
>>
>>Actually, tighter strings give you more spin for the same reason that
>>tighter strings give you more control. The strings will embed into the ball
>>( or "grip" the ball ) more at higher tensions. It's the grip that allows
>>you to impart more spin on the ball. It works the same way for thinner
>>string that "digs" into the ball more.
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>I cannot agree with the statement above.  By simple laws of physics, 
>tighter strings do not contact the ball at a greater force than looser
>strings.  F=ma; therefore, if the ball is accerated to the same speed, then
>the normal force should be equal.  Looser strings stay in contact with the
>ball longer, therefore impart more spin.  You must be thinking of Borg
>who strung his standard head at 80 lbs or more and hit ferocious topspin.
>In my opinion, if he strung his racquets at lower tensions, he would 
>have gotten more spin.  I play with excessive topspin and I feel with
>board-tight strings, I do not get that brushing up feel in my strokes,
>instead I get a crisp hit--which I do not like. I guess only way to
>find out who is right is to get two identical racquets strung at different
>tensions at hit some balls.
>
>Hyok Lee
>

It seems we can not explain the discussion with single theory.
It is both true that tighter string will dig more into the ball and
the ball will stay longer in the loose string. I guess we can think
of more phtsical properties and judge which will contribute more.
But I would vote for the tighter string since it is "practically"
difficult ( for me :-> ) to put on much spin with loose string.
The ball usually flies when I try to put much spin with loose string.


Kwansik Kim
From: dizon@plunger.ECE.CMU.EDU (Roberto M. Dizon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: racket stringer recommendations?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:39:02 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon

Hi!

I'm looking to buy a racket stringer. I'm looking into the really cheap ones.
Like the Klippermate, the T.R. Stringer, and I think Rayco(?) makes one too.
I've used the Klippermate a couple of times and I guess it's OK. The "drop 
weight" tension scheme I'm not so crazy about however. 

I'd appreciate any opinions from anyone who has used any of these, or 
suggestions for other stringers and whom to order them from.

Thanks a lot!

-Bob
From: bernie@lgc.com (Bernie De La Torre)
Subject: Re: Arthur Ashe
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:29:00 GMT

In article <12055@tamsun.tamu.edu> byron@archone.tamu.edu (Byron Rakitzis) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.225836.18219@oz.plymouth.edu> m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) writes:
>
>>I just heard the terrible news.  Arthur Ashe has AIDS.
>
>As far as I know, he is HIV positive. This is very different from "having
>AIDS".  Let's hope he stays healthy for a long time to come.

His announcement was that he has AIDS. There is really a fine line between
being HIV+ and having AIDS. The old definition by the CDC was that you had
to contract one of three diseases to be classified as having AIDS (the
pneumonia, karposis sarcoma, and one other one). The new definition is
much broader and is not based on diseases, but rather on the state of your
immune system. I believe a T-cell count of 200 or below now qualifies you
as having AIDS. On the average, it takes ten years from initial infection
to developing full blown AIDS. This, however, is just an average and
can fluctuate greatly. He was infected in either 1979 or 1983. They believe
it was 1983. 

It is really sad to see someone who has served tennis and humanity as
Arthur Ashe has go through this ordeal. It is also sad that he was 
forced to make this disclosure. Atleast some good will come from his
announcement.
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From: tjb@mozz.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Subject: Re: strings
Keywords: tension
Organization: University of New Hampshire,  Durham, NH
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:22:00 GMT


The way Tennis Magazine explained it in an article last year,
tighter string tensions gives more control, spin, etc. due to
the fact that when the ball makes contact with the string bed,
it flattens out, increasing the contact surface between ball and
string.  Conversely, a looser string bed gives somewhat, the
ball doesn't flatten, decreasing the contact surface, and the
added slingshot effect of the string provides more power and less
control.

Along the same lines, my Wilson ProStaff Classic says "Higher 
tensions give you more control, lower tensions give you
more power," right on it.

tjb



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From: vogel@faramir.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Vogelsang  #Alwd#)
Subject: Re: GIF's of Mac/Becker
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 10:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.193318.33155@uvmark.uucp> palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.133332.6165@mks.com> dan@mks.com (Dan Latendre) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.005834.29235@Princeton.EDU> srinivas@dew.Princeton.EDU (Santhanam Srinivasan) writes:
>>>
>>> Could someone email me GIF's of McEnroe and Becker? I would especially
>>> appreciate pictures taken at Wimbledon.
>>>
>>I would also like gif's of McEnroe, Borg, Sabatini ... Would it be a
>>problem if the gif's were posted on this newsgroup? 
>
>All gifs should be posted to the appropriate newsgroups, like
>alt.binaries.pictures.
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You are absolutly right, they should be posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc,
but could PLEASE anybody out there, who has got GIFs of tennis players answer
and post the answer to THIS group,

thanks a lot, 

tired by hopeless search, Frank Vogelsang

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From: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Subject: Mary Pierce
Reply-To: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:01:37 GMT



Does anyone know anything about the women's player Mary Pierce? I've
heard her name around lately but I haven't heard anything about her. Is
she a new young player? What country is she from?

Thanks!


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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Subject: Re: strings
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:23:08 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.
Keywords: tension

In article <1992Apr12.184223.22668@seas.gwu.edu> se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee) writes:
>I cannot agree with the statement above.  By simple laws of physics, 
>tighter strings do not contact the ball at a greater force than looser
>strings.  F=ma; therefore, if the ball is accerated to the same speed, then
>the normal force should be equal.  Looser strings stay in contact with the
>ball longer, therefore impart more spin.  You must be thinking of Borg
>who strung his standard head at 80 lbs or more and hit ferocious topspin.
>In my opinion, if he strung his racquets at lower tensions, he would 
>have gotten more spin.  I play with excessive topspin and I feel with
>board-tight strings, I do not get that brushing up feel in my strokes,
>instead I get a crisp hit--which I do not like. I guess only way to
>find out who is right is to get two identical racquets strung at different
>tensions at hit some balls.
>
>Hyok Lee

No, I am not thinking about Borg at all! I got this from a conversation
I had with Don Hightower at the USRSA. You have to understand that
the higher the tension, the more the ball is flattened out during imapct.
The flattening causes the an embedding of the strings into the nap of the
ball. The greater the embedding, the greater the control, and the greater
your ability to add spin.
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From: aparna@mako.stat.ufl.edu (Aparna Raychaudhuri)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Results from Bausch & Lomb tournament
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:03:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Apr11.200329.22402
Reply-To: aparna@mako.stat.ufl.edu (Aparna Raychaudhuri)
Organization: U of Florida. Statistics Dept.

Quarter Final Results:
 
 Graf defeated Meshki 6-0 6-2
  
    Meshki was having problem with her first serve throughout the match.
  
  Sabatini defeated Novotna 6-2 6-1
 
  Novotna held her serve only once in the whole match.  Seemed like nothing was working for her. 

  Sanchez-Vicario defeated Sabine Hack 6-1 6-2

  Sabine Hack is a young player from Germany who looks like Steffi and walks like Becker but unfortunately does'nt have much similarlity with any of them in her game.  Although she is a true baseliner, she has double-handed backhand, her service is particularly weak.

 Sanchez has reached doubles semi-final with Zevereva.  They defeated Tarabini and Cecceni 6-3 6-1 in a well played match.

  Martinez defeated Garrison 6-1 6-3.

All the matches were easy for the winners. I expected a fight from Novotna, but she was making one after another unforced errors.  Sabatini has to win the Championship to retain her no.3 position otherwise Martina will take that position.  It seems little bit unlucky for her after leading in points this year and performing so well.

  ( I understand how it works so no need of any explanation necessary !! ) 


  Other Result :
 
   Edberg lost to Kjrickchek in semi-final of Japan Open.
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From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Wilander
Date: 6 Apr 1992 13:48:10 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


        I am a fan of Wilander. The U.S. open finals match between Ivan
 Lendl and Wilander (which year they plyed ?) exhibited the best performance
 of both the players. When Wilander won the U.S. open title after defeating
 the then #1 seed Ivan Lendl, he became the #1 seed. It was a crucial match
 for Lendl, because if he had won that title, he would have been on his way
 to break Jimmy Connors' record of holding the #1 seed continuosly for some
 years. Connors still holds that record and I don't think anyone can break
 that record. Every year sees one new Tennis star emerging . [ Chang, Sampras,
 Courier, Stich,,etc.]
       Ever since Indian tennis star Ramesh Krishnan defeated Wilander in the
 Australian open (which immediately followed the U.S. open title for Wilander)
 Wilander not only lost his #1 seed , but also his confidence. He is hardly
 in the tennis news. I will be glad if Wilander makes a comeback. He is one
 of those old players who always delivers good.
                                                                  S.Pandian.
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From: twromero@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Michael Lin)
Subject: Re: Edberg vs. Chang
Originator: twromero@Davinci.McRCIM.McGill.EDU
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:48:02 GMT


In article <62300005@teecs.UUCP>, szeto@teecs.UUCP (Tat-Man(A.) Szeto) writes:
|> Recently, there has been a lot of talk on whether 
|> Michael Chang can beat Stephen Edberg, Jim Courier,
|> Becker or Sampras, etc; on whether he can win another
|> Grand Slam title; on if he can ever become world's 
|> no.1 or 2.....
|> For me, it doesn't matter if Michael beats Stefan
|> or Stefan beats Michael.  Each of them has already
|> had drastically different contribution to the men's
|> tour and to tennis as a whole.  While Chang adds
|> unexpected excitement and suspense to the men's game,
|> Edberg reminds us of how graceful and fluid sport
|> can be, even in a game like tennis where power plays
|> a big part.
|> Chang doesn't have as a big a serve as other male 
|> players do, but he has beaten the top players recently.  
|> When I watch him play, I always wonder: Can he do it
|> again this time?  How is he going to counter-punch
|> those big serves?  I care less on whether he can
|> eventually win than on how and what he'll do to try
|> to win.  When Michael plays, you never know what the
|> outcome will be.  With his short and small frame,
|> it's like watching David fight Goliath.  But he seems
|> to be able to win unwinnable matches.
|> While Michael brings suspense, Stefan brings class
|> and style.  Knowing he is inconsistent, I don't
|> expect him to win all the time and I don't care.
|> His game by itself is just beautiful to watch.
|> So clean, so graceful and so fluid.  Edberg is like
|> a modern day tennis version of an ancient Greek
|> olympic athlete.  The way he serves, moves to the
|> net, and stretches for high volleys displays
|> classic athleticism.


   Agree with what you just said. Yes, each has no doubt contributed
in different phase of the game, which makes it more interesting.
But in the extremely competitive world of professional tennis, or
in fact any professional sport, winning is everything. Like the Blue
Jays are a vey good team. They are expected to win the American League
East almost every year. Now the expectation has gone beyond just winnig
the division title, going to the World Series is being used as the norm
for success or failure. 

   So, it does matter where you win or not. The players will tell you 
that they won't be remembered if they don't win the big ones whether it's
the World Series or the Grand Slam Events.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 12:08:17 EDT
From: <BUSBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: T.V. Complaints

I neglected to mention, Anne Dolce pointed out the two articles to me, in
Tennis Week. Since they were similar in nature to my posting of last month.

Thank you Anne.

Howard
From: olson@plains.NoDak.edu (Rob Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Strings
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:19:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16778
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

I realize that the subject of the effect of string tension on imparting spin
is getting a little old, however I would like to add my input.

I have been stringing rackets for about 6 years now and this has allowed me
to experiment with different tensions at minimal cost.  I have been playing 
tennis for about 20 years now (2 years college varsity) and I am a very heavy
topspin user.  Now the laws of physics may be used to describe the spin effect,
but I know from practical experience that lower tensions have created more
spin for me than higher tensions.   I wonder if there is a certain range of
tensions (depending on the racket, string guage, etc. ) where higher tensions
would create more spin, and outside this range, less tension would create more
spin.  Anybody out there with comments on this possibility?

Another thing to point out is the subject of the spaghetti stringing techniques
that were deemed illegal about 6-8 years ago.  With this technique, two strings
were used to string the racket (both going in existing holes!!).  The first was
strung at normal tension and the other at a lower tension.  This would 
produce monstrous amounts of spin along with unpredicatable results.  Ille 
Naste (sp) was known for trying rackets strung in this manner (it figures that
the 70's nasty boy would try something like this).
From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: Periodic Posting 
Originator: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:50:21 GMT


For new participants in this group:

Please don't put results of matches in your Subject: lines

There are many readers who watch televised matches via tape delay,
and don't wish to learn results in advance.

Use, for example:

"French Open Results"
"Davis Cup Spoilers"

or somesuch to indicate the contents, but will allow readers
determine if articles should be skipped.

In general, 24 hours is long enough to wait if you just HAVE to
post something of the ilk:

Subject: SELES UPSET BY BOITANO

Thanks one and all
-- 
Nothing happens here

	...Wex
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From: nancyc@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (Nancy Chan)
Subject: What makes a good tennis player?
Summary: What makes a good tennis player?
Keywords: tennis player
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:48:25 GMT

What is the difference between the top players and those playing
pre-qualifying? 

Genetics?

A few of the elite have had a parent who was good at sports.
For example, Hana Mandlikova's father was an Olympic sprinter.

Coaching?

I feel that the most important time in the stroke production of a
child's game is between 8-12 years.  After that, any basic flaws become
difficult to overcome.

Presently, Australian tennis moving away from the coaching methods
from the 50's (eg. "Take the racquet straight back and follow through
into the direction you want the ball to go.") and moving into the 
90's(eg. "Today we are going to learn about the multi-segmented forehand.".  
Every time Australia gets a beating in Davis Cup, like the
one against Sweden two weeks ago, the coaching methods are partly blamed.

Availability of tough competition week after week?
From: mkarthi@eos.ncsu.edu (M  KARTHIK)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Test!!!Test!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:53:05 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

testing please ignore!
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From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Arthur Ashe
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:58:36 GMT

I just heard the terrible news.  Arthur Ashe has AIDS.

Apparently, he contracted it through a blood transfusion in 1983
(before AIDS screening in 1985) in New York.  It was discovered in
1988 and he wanted to keep it secret.

It seems as though USA Today (a national daily newspaper in the United
States) got a hold of the story.  This forced Ashe to announce his
medical condition in a news conference today.

It is a terrible day for the tennis world and I'm sure all tennis fans
around the world will pray for his well being.  Ashe is a true
sportsmen and humanitarian.


-- 
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From: pakuin@cs.vu.nl (Kuin PA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Results from Bausch & Lomb tournament
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:18:37 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

In article <1992Apr11.200329.22402@eng.ufl.edu> aparna@mako.stat.ufl.edu (Aparna Raychaudhuri) writes:

<stuff deleted>

>
>
>  Other Result :
> 
>   Edberg lost to Kjrickchek in semi-final of Japan Open.
		   ^^^^^^^^^^
His name is Krajicek,he was before Tokyo ranked 30th and he is from
the Netherlands.
From: pakuin@cs.vu.nl (Kuin PA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP-rankings
Keywords: ATP-Rankings
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:13:54 GMT

Who knows the latest ATP-rankings,and can he or she set them on this 
Newsgroup?
From: byron@snoopy.tamu.edu (Byron Rakitzis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Arthur Ashe
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:22:01 GMT
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University

In article <12055@tamsun.tamu.edu> byron@archone.tamu.edu (Byron Rakitzis) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.225836.18219@oz.plymouth.edu> m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) writes:

>>I just heard the terrible news.  Arthur Ashe has AIDS.

>As far as I know, he is HIV positive. This is very different from "having
>AIDS".  Let's hope he stays healthy for a long time to come.

It looks like I was wrong.

The AP reprint I have in today's paper says:

	"Ashe, 48, said he had toxoplasmosis, a parasitic infection
	of the brain that is considered a marker for AIDS."

:-(

Good luck, Arthur.
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