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From: kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Small amps
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:35:21 GMT
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

I went shopping for small amps yesterday.  Played all the bass amps in 
the store and gave the owner a headache.  I started with the smallest, 
a Microbass (PV) and worked my way up.  The small amps didn't have any 
low end, I played one with a 12" speaker that sounded pretty good.  15s
sound like mud to me.  The last amp I played was an old Fender Bassman 100 
with a *very* funky cab, four 12"s arranged like this
	_____
	| O |
	|O O|
	| O |
	=====
but each driver was on its own trapezoidal baffle board, top one angled 
down, bottom angled up, sides angled inward.  This thing sounded great.
But it was bigger than my stage rig.  Anyway they wanted $700 for it 
and I wasn't going for that.  So I go home and play through *my* amp, 
and hey it sounds pretty good too.  So my *small* amp remains:
Peavey Mark III Bass head (210w/4ohms) on top of a 2x10" cab.  It takes 
two hands to carry but it sounds *much* better than any of the "small" 
amps I've tried.  When I'm playing larger venues I put my 1x15 under
it (my amp's 300w into 2 ohms) and if I really need it I get out my 
other head and biamp.  I never need to go through the PA :-)

The moral is there are no shortcuts.  Like somebody else mentioned, 
if price were no object, a good "portable" would be a Walter Woods. 
I'd put a good 210 with it, 410 for more thunder, less port.
From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Rush: La Villa Strangiato bass tab
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:18:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov13.061824.22413
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I've pretty much mastered this song (with help in tough parts from the Anthology) but I can't  
figure out the solo, and what the Anthology has sounds wrong.  Anyone have tab?
From: gsmith@sequent.com (Greg Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Practicing with headphones
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:09:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov11.050911.17803
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

Any comments on the various headphone practice amps? I know of the Rockman,
and the Fender Bass Pak. There is a third but I forget the name, it's a 
snazzy looking little unit with multiple effects that alledgedly will operate
pretty cleanly as an effects pre-amp. It's also in the $400 category while
the other two are somwhat cheaper. I'm told that the Rockman and the 
Fender product are both a bit dirty as pre-amps. Any input on especially the
Bass Pak would be appreciated.

thanks
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From: earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard)
Subject: Re: Small amps
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:38:12 GMT

In article <BxGvD6.2Ax@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> tonyr@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Tony Reis) writes:
>Does anyone have recommendations for small amps? I want to play mostly with
>acoustic instruments in homes at sing-a-longs and jams. Does anyone else
>need or do this?

Yea, I usually plug into an old boombox (gheto blaster) and twiddle with
the tone controls until I get a sound I can live with.  People usualy
don't care what you do to these things, so it's usualy no problem cranking
up the volume (watch out for distortion :).

Most "portable Sterios" with a tape recorder in them have a LINE IN jack,
and you can get an adapter from almost anywhere!

*AND* if you can pick up one of these things cheap, they work on bateries!
(You no longer have to leave your axe at home when everyone goes to the
beach...)

Marcus.
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From: etxjoos@kk39.ericsson.se (ETX-TT-ED Sahlin Johan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Sad Day, Red Mitchell is dead
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:07:12 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Ericsson


Red Mitchell is dead.

It was sad to hear that he's gone, 'cause he has done alot to
Swedish Jazz. After all, he lived in Sweden for ~25 years before he
decided to return to Oregon.

Thanks Red, for your contribution.

   -Johan

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From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: Chapman sticks
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Nov 92 03:59:14 GMT


Pardon my ignorance but I've never heard of a Chapman Stick.  Could you 
explain what it is and how one plays it?  Sounds interesting...

Thanks!

Edgar
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From: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Pounds for decibels
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:59:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: e2big.1992Nov10.175905.4144
Reply-To: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



>I've had a Minx as my main amp for almost five years. This summer I borrowed
>a TNT-130, but you have to admit it's nice to be able to toss the Minx in your
>trunk, your bass case in your back seat, and still have room for a passenger.


Thanks for the confirmation Chuck.  I love the tone of the Minx.  I did try
the Peavey MicroBASS, but the music store wanted quite a bit more for it than
the Minx, I wanted to keep in under a hundred as this was my "practice amp".

I've used the Minx on some Rock gigs, at mega volumes, but that's because we
just ran it right into the 16-channel mixer, and out through the JBL bins !!
The tone was great though.

I use a Peavey Combo 300 with a CRATE 12 cab below it for a real full stage 
sound, and knocking the walls down when some hot headed guitarist thinks he's
got the loudest stack on stage.  Like you say though, carrying that stack
around is a general pain in all kinds of parts on my bod, the minx I carry
in one hand, foundation bass and guit stand and cords in the other.  1 trip
from CAR to stage, no back pains, happy bass player !!  Can you tell I'm a
Peavey man ?!

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: Re: Chapman sticks
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:20:09 GMT

Flame on...

wonder twin powers activate...
	form of: Emmett Chapman
	shape of: a Chapman Stick price tag.

Sitcks are very well designed instruments (with the exception of the pickups)
and I bear Emmett no malice but, as a builder, I have to clue everyone in.
Sticks are VERY overpriced.

I am about to build one for myself and, as I always do before building, I figured
out how much it will cost in parts.  I can build a stick for 250-300$ (with good
pickups)!!!

Emmett is a manufactring genius.  The stick is designed to be mass produceable
quite easily.  There are no tapers, radiuses, or complicated fretwork involved
in building one.  All the cuts are straight lines and planes the routing work
is designed so that one can lay a bunch of sticks next to each other and do them
all at the same time.  This is not a flame as much as a compliment.  But the
consumer should realize the degree of profit he makes on each one. My cost
analysis is based on obtaining retail price parts from guitar stores. He can get
his parts wholesale.  I estimate his parts cost to be about 100-150$ each. Add
labor, machinery, marketing, profit, etc. and you get the retail price of
$1300.00 for an instrument which, until a few years ago, doesnt even have a 
truss rod.  

Anyone can build a stick with some basic tools and a little confidence.  If you
are going to buy one check out the old polycarbonite sticks, you can probably get
one used at a reasonable cost.



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From: pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Scopes)
Subject: Bass sounds used in records made by Narada Michael Walden
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:04:47 GMT

I am working on a song that I plan to record in a studio, and I have a question:

In 1986, Arista Records had several chartbusting hits that I liked.  They were
all produced by Narada Michael Walden, and had several things in common--they
all had a similar drumbeat, an active bass line, and all started with 2 bars
of drums, and right before the synth parts kick in, the bass makes a cool
sliding sort of sound.  I'd like to incorporate this cool bass technique into
my song, and I'm wondering how they do it.  Thw songs I'm referring to are:

Aretha Franklin - Who's Zoomin' Who
Jermaine Stewart - We don't have to take our clothes off
Whitney Houston - How Will I Know

Any help will be appreciated.


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From: richard@bach.udel.edu (Richard Gordon)
Subject: Standing in the Shadow of Motown (James Jamerson Sr.)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:19:11 GMT

My 3-year-old son has discovered my copy of the tribute to James
Jamerson, Sr. (THE Motown bassist) and keeps playing it over and over
again on his little cassette player.  Beats the hell out of hearing Wee
Sing Birthday Party over and over again!!  Zach also loves slapping my
bass fiddle when it's standing around with its cover off.

So, I've been hearing the tapes of Standing in the Shadow of Motown
again.  Enjoyable mix of interviews with all sorts of bassists and
their favorite Jamerson bass lines--that are then played (usually by
the guest bassist and a set of competent studio musicians).  Somewhere
around the house we have the book that goes with it--including
transcriptions of many of the parts....
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Small amps
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 11 NOV 92 08:54:51    


In general, small bass amps are a drag because they just don't get a real fat
tone and cost a lot of money for what you get.  If you can find one used,
though...

Two types to look for:

1.  Old tube combos, often these are WAY under $100 at garage sales, etc.  A
20-30 watter with a 12 or 15 will do the job but they aren't REAL small and
tube chassis tend to be heavy.  I have a Traynor BassMate which cost me $65,
but at about 25" tall and 40 lbs., a bit big for lugging about a lot.

2.  *Some* of the new student amps are decent.  The Peavey Minx and MicroBass
already have been mentioned, slightly less power is the Crate B10XL (10 watts,
1-8").  I just got one of these for $50 used and for what I need it for
(acoustic band practices in my drummer's kitchen!) it does the job.  Compared
to what I started out with when I took up the bass 20 years ago, these amps are
pretty hip...the Crate has 4 band EQ, a compressor to keep from blowing the
speaker out of the box, a tuned and ported cabinet, etc. New, these amps run
from about $100 to $170...of course *real* bass combos start at about $200 so
that's why I suggest looking for used ones. One brand I'd avoid is Gorilla. 

Almost everybody starts with a small amp and then chucks it when they upgrade
(or give up playing), so there are LOTS of used practice amps on the market.
It's educational to try out new ones to see what they sound like, but then go
scour wantads and music stores for used ones.  Over the past ten years, I've
bought seven used combo amps, the most expensive was $90, four of them were
less than $25 (and all were in working condition!).  In fact, I've resold a few
and made money each time.  With deals like that around, I just can't see
blowing $150 on a little amp.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: damin@hopper.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: Re: Small amps
Organization: Cleveland State University, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:58:16 GMT

When discussing "Small" amps, you must define small...

Do you mean compact but powerful enough to play a show?
Do you mean small enough to fit on your dresser?

Do you mean an amp with a small speaker?
Do you mean an amp with a small wattage?

Personally, my defition of a small amp is an amplifier that is compact enough
to port around with you, yet powerful enough to use for a show or recording
session.

Although there ARE a lot of good combo amps on the market, I always seem to 
find that shortcuts are taken that just completely turn me off to them.

After dealing with a few different amps (about 6 years ago when I started to
take my bass playing seriously..as in I started to do session work!) I finally
decided to go with a custom designed system. 

I put together a compact, yet powerful and EXTREMELY versatile system for
just under 1000$. It has served me as well in front of 5,000 people as it has
in front of the engineer in the studio.

1. Used 4 Space Anvil Rack		-	65$
2. Rocktron Basix Preamp		-      150$
3. Hartke 4X10 Cabinet			-      450$
4. Ampeg 2 space 200 watt power amp	-      250$
---------------------------------------------------
   Total overall cost			-      915$

This system is small (Fits in the front seat of a car) and can get
any sound that you might want. 

The Rocktron Basix preamp is the bottom of the line, low cost model preamp. 
However, it has ALL the features that you could EVER need...

Has...

3 Band parametric Eq - Get Exactly the sound that you want
Built in compression and aural exciter.
Distortion for those Metalheads out there! :)

It has an effects loop as well as allowing all the internal "effects" to be 
footswitched. It is fully biampable so you can run seperate power amps for
your 15" and or 4X10.

Remember, though, that the best sound is going to be a combination of
everything working together. What works for me with my custom 6 String
bass, may not work for cheaper basses. In the end, you NEED to have
speakers, amps and a bass that work together.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer)
Subject: Re: Small amps
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:57:58 GMT

In article <BxGvD6.2Ax@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> tonyr@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Tony Reis) writes:
>
>Does anyone have recommendations for small amps? I want to play mostly with
>acoustic instruments in homes at sing-a-longs and jams. Does anyone else
>need or do this?

I used to have a small Python 20 watt practice amp.  For the price (*very* 
cheap) it was exellent, good deep tone, and quite a nice top end.  I tried
several much more expensive little amps, and they didn't get within a 
bulls roar of the Python.  Unless you play a 5 string with a low B it
will give yuo all the bottom end you need, and sounds heaps better than the
more expensive "name" brand practice amps (notably the small Peaveys, they're
junk, imho).

cheers

carl




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From: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: small amps
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:09:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: e2big.1992Nov9.220958.19194
Reply-To: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



I picked up a Peavey Minx amp for using in practice with both a country
and a rock band.  I love it !!  Have used it for a few gigs at smaller
clubs around the Worcester/Boston Area.  Paid $99 for it, and it packs
a lot of punch !!


Dave
From: CA.JNL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joshua Loftus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: a.g.bass and small amps
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:06:33 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


Well, my server insists that alt.guitar.bass just doesn't exist, so
I'm all for any kind of migration towards r.m.m.bass.  I love both
acoustic and electric bass and hope to see posts on both of them...

As far as small amps go, I've never had any luck getting a full
sound from them.  Then again, I'm kind of a bonehead w.r.t. EQ and
how to use it well.  I do like peavy to a certain extent.  I like my
hartke rig better (3500 head, 410XL cab).  One of my friends who
plays both acoustic and electric has experimented with smaller amps.
He played through a GK 150MBE head and a hartke 210TP cab.  Just
didn't have the poop to do the real bass thing, especially with his
acoustic bass.  He is headed towards getting the big ADA rig or
maybe a Nightbass/ADA hybrid rig.  He feels that the sound he gets
for both electric *and* acoustic is more than worth the weight.
He's just glad he doesn't have to carry around Ampeg SVTs or folded
2x18" cabs anymore like "the old days."

My ideal Peavey rig, BTW, would be their databass combo driving a
210TX or 410TX extension for bite and punch.  Very portable, very
small, but heavy compared to a Minx!

Later!

Josh

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Practicing with headphones
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:07:39 GMT


Side note: Pete Townshend has said that his hearing loss was
caused by headphone practice at high volume. So be careful.

Angus MacDonald           angus@well.sf.ca.us
Box 561, Concord, California, USA, 94522-0561
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: miller@quiver.enet.dec.com (Brian A. Miller)
Subject: Bass TABs wanted!!!
Keywords: Bass guitar, tablature
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:30:08 GMT



Well, now that this newsgroup exists, let's see some tablature
posted for the bass.  I am a beginning bass player, and I'd like
to find some interesting, but not too difficult, parts to practice
with.

Anything by Beatles, J. Tull, B-52s, Crowded House, REM, Pink Floyd,
Violent Femmes, John Cougar Mellencamp, Peter Gabriel, Genesis,
Yes, Poi Dog Pondering, Camper Van Beethoven, . . .

--Brian
From: noahvawt@pacman.WPI.EDU (noahvawt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: TheWalk
Date: 11 Nov 1992 08:22:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacman.wpi.edu

Hurray Everyone!


The Walk, by The Cure.  It's on about a zillion different albums...

Ok, The Walk is a really easy song to play...you just 
follow the progression, playing octaves up the yin-yang,
and make neat-0 noises with the keyboard...

here is the verse:
--2-2-0-0--------
----------2-2-2-2
0--0-------------
----3-3-0-0-0-0--
A    G   E       really simple, huh?

here is the chorus...still playing all octaves...
-2-2-5-5-7-7-7-7
--------0-0-0-0-
0-0-3-3---------
----------------

and now the neat part...that crazy melody 
it's actually played on keyboard or guitar,
but it sounds neat, so here it is:
9-10-12-9-7-9-5---7-7-7-7-5-7-5-4--
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
I suppose you could split it up onto different strings,
but why bother?  I think it's more fun this way...

hahah  This is just the first in a series that I'll be
making...For more fun, come to WPI, where this sort
of shit is happening everyday...

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From: georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos)
Subject: Kubicki Factor Bass Source 
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:12:46 GMT


I just learned that Kubicki basses are no longer distributed by Fender, 
and the store I planned on buying one from had no "forwarding address"
for the instrument.

Are they still being made?  And if so, can anyone point me toward a 
source?

Your help is MUCH appreciated.  

Thanx,

George

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: builders
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:35:37 GMT

Is there a newsgroup for stringed instrument builders? Basses, Sticks...
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Subject: Re: Peavey microBass for sale (was Re: Small amps)
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:30:17 CST

In article <1992Nov10.200939.22517@ccad.uiowa.edu>
timv@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy VanFosson) writes:
 
>From article <FENSTER.92Nov9164904@ground.cs.columbia.edu>, by fenster@cs.columbia.edu (Sam Fenster):
>> I think there's only one cheap, good-sounding one: a Peavey
>> ("microBass," I think), which is $220 or so.
>
>I have one of these for sale.  It's a couple of years old, but used
>very little.  I bought it when I started playing bass, but quickly found
>out that, while good as a practice amp in a small room, it just couldn't
>compete in a large room.
 
           stuff about his your new Hartke equipment deleted
 
> Anyway, I still use it some, but since I'm buying a
>house I can use all the extra cash I can get.  The bottom line ;-) $120 obo.
>You pay shipping (it doesn't weigh much).
>
 
How about a little more info?  How many watts RMS?  direct out line?  what
type of equalization?  I'm unfamiliar with this amplifier but can appreciate
fewer backaches immensely.
 
mikejames (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: thompson@adobe.com (Ross Thompson)
Subject: looking for a bass fiddle
Keywords: cheap
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:30:03 GMT


I'm looking for a bass fiddle.  I don't care what condition, so long
as you can string it without it breaking, and it stays in tune for at
least a half hour or so.  This would be a learner instrument, so
quality of sound is not that important.  Any leads on where I can pick
one up for cheap would be appreciated.  My take on the market is that
I should expect to spend $500 at the store, so I'd be especially
interested in anybody who can beat that price.
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