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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Shipping mishap in SEA?
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:51:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.145715.1627@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> I picked up:
> 
> capacity of 500, weather was clear, Straits of Malacca among the
> busiest shipping lane in the world.
> 
> I saw some white people on TV. One woman with a child.

Maybe they were Australians?

Maybe someone should have sent a Malaysian Prince from Trengganu to get 'em.

Oh, kidnapping is fun.

Rod
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From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: SCUDs and All that
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:18:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.024840.25708@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
>: 
>: Maybe you'll get down to bashing those Chinese Journalists at your favourite
>: Singaporean Newspaper.
>
>I detect a few more "not the whole truth" stuff on TV and newsapapers but I
>do not have evidence except on Malaysian TV. How can I quote TV sound on
>usenet? Maybe someday.

Hey my PC have sound blaster, my Sun can reproduce sound so can my
Mac II.  C'mon use your technical capability to digitize those 
sounds and post it here 8). You don't have to wait for someday.

Me Mann
From: ciar04@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:23:18 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

For those interested in aeroplanes, there is an airshow at
Fainborough (UK).  On display are some of the world's most
sophisticated aircrafts.

So why limit your choice to only either the F16 or Mig29?  There
are lots of other aircrafts to choose from.

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From: jesskong@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Blessed One)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Email and Mail addresses of EE companies in M'sia and S'pore
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:12:25 GMT
Distribution: ut
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Please provise me the a. mailing address b. person to contact 
c. email address of the following companies

1. Intel 
2. Motorola
3. Hewlett Packard
4. Texas Instrument
5. IBM

Thankyou for your kind information.

				Jessie
____________________________________________
please reply to jesskong@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Job in South Asia
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 92 14:57:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


>	Can anyone tell me where I can get some information about job 
>opportunity (name and address of companies, contact person) in South Asia
>countries?

>Chun
>cfs2b@Virginia.edu

Do you mean "South Asia" - India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc

or "Southeast Asia" - Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand etc

Hassan
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From: engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau)
Subject: Re: Travel advice needed on Singapore & Malaysia
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:37:07 GMT

Ak Wing Leong (leongaw@hpcc01.corp.hp.com) wrote:
: December is in the middle of the north east monsoon and Singapore and 
: the east coast of West Malaysia are usually flooded. The east coast

flooding in Singapore???  Is that a joke?  Ten years ago maybe.  Everything
is now under control.  I do hope that we have more rain falls so that we can
buy less water from Johor.  :-)


-WS
-- 
VLSI DESIGN & CAD LABORATORY          \  Internet: engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg
Dept of Electrical Engineering         \  Bitnet:  ENGP2065@NUSVM.bitnet      
National University of Singapore        \  Phone:  (+65) 772 6319       
10, Kent Ridge Crescent. Singapore 0511. \______________________________
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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: SCUDs and All that
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:48:40 GMT

rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
: 
: Maybe you'll get down to bashing those Chinese Journalists at your favourite
: Singaporean Newspaper.

I detect a few more "not the whole truth" stuff on TV and newsapapers but I
do not have evidence except on Malaysian TV. How can I quote TV sound on
usenet? Maybe someday.
: 
: P.S.  I'm coming to Singapore soon.  I'll expect you to meet me at
: Changi Terminal 1 to trow appropriate tomatoes at me in person.
: 
: Alternatively, I could come out to NUS and visit you....
You should read my signature carefully. 
It makes me wonder if you actually read what I wrote down.
	I'm not from NUS, I'm from NTU, at Jurong. 
You can call me at 7994940.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Salaries of Graduates in M'sia
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:33:38 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep14.144157.42984@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, chuah@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> After reading the posting "Job Opportunity in Malaysia", I have a 
> question in mind :
> 
> 	Can anyone post to the net how much graduates are paid
> 	in Malaysia? Mojors of particular interests are (but not limited
> 	to) (i) computer science, (ii) all engineering fields, (iii) business
> 	administration, and (iv) social science and humanities like Psychology.
> 
> I have read on this net postings of salaries in Singapore but not in Malaysia.
> I am personally interested in salaries of computer scientists holding an
> undergraduate degree and also a master's degree. I will be graduating soon,
> and this information will definitely help me decide if I should try to get
> a job here before contemplating returning to Malaysia.
> 
> I thank you in advance for all information supplied.
> 
> Chuah

	Why bother ?  I am sure the pay here is much higher than in Malaysia's.
(even without converting to Malaysia currency !).  I have a friend with a 
bachelor degree who just got a job that pays about US$29,000.  I don't think
a person with a bachelor degree (in CS) will be able to get $29,000 ringgit. 
	Anyway, it never hurts to get some experience in US first.  It 
certainly makes you more marketable when you go home.  The hard part 
is finding a job here !!!  Good luck.


Jack Teh 

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From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: ------ WALL STREET CHALLENGE ----------
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:07:17 GMT

v999s3bz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ((__)) writes:

>Hi,
>Thank you for responding.
>If you are interested in being a representative for
>your university for the wall street challenge, please
>email me for additional information (it pays $$$ too).  
>However, the list below indicates reps
>in schools that already have been chosen.
>Hence you must not be from the list below.
>Speed is of the essence.

Uhh... what's this all about? 
(I've missed a lot of articles, so sorry if the regulars already
know...)
From: apakabar@access.digex.com (John A. MacDougall)
Subject: Re: SEASIA-L news : is it still alive, how to subscribe ??
Keywords: seasia-l subscription
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:32:36 GMT

seasia-l is alive and well.  To subscribe, email

listserv@msu.edu
with sole message line
SUB SEASIA-L your_full_name

John

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Editor, Southeast Asia Publications Fax: 301-552-4465
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From: kahchan@banana.iss.nus.sg (low kah chan)
Subject: Re: KL mayor,Elyas,resigns
Reply-To: kahchan@iss.nus.sg (low kah chan)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:38:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.141414.58720@cc.usu.edu> fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:
>	The cars that they purchased are Mercedes-Benz and not volvos.  I
>happened to be back home when the scandal broke.  The whole affairs make
>me sick.

According to what had been reported in Singapore, the cars are Volvos.
As far as I can recall the Volvos were not purchased through proper
budgetary channels.  The sums involved were over M$1 million.
Sin Chew Jit Poh reported yesterday (sept 9) that Mahathir praised Elyas
for taking the responsibility and stepping down.
From: t7062@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHEE TAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.141448.6641@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mdicker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Dickerson) writes:
> 
> Malaysia needs to decide the mission of these aircraft (interception?
> air superiority with ground attack capability?) and purchase the best
> available plane based on this mission.  The F16 is probably the best
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> choice available today for a lightweight air combat fighter with
> ground attack capabilities.
> 

You are right ... if only Bush is going to sell M'sia the latest model of
F16, i.e. Model C or D.  But I don't think Bush will be so generous ...
base on he only agree to sell Taiwan 150 F16-A/B .. IMO, I don't think
M'sia has any chance to get model C/D at all.  Instead to get a second rate
machine (The radar system on model A/B is s**k !!), Mig 29 might be a better
choice.






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From: harish@csar.uucp (Harish Pillay)
Subject: Re: Singapore Citizenship
Organization: CSA Holdings Ltd, Singapore.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.132011.13926@bmers95.bnr.ca> khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) writes:
>In article <thia.716172205@haven.sce.carleton.ca>, thia@sce.carleton.ca (Yong Thia) writes:
>|> Hi! I am a graduate student studying in Canada. Recently, my wife
>|> gave birth to a baby boy. I would like to knowhere I should 
>|> report to the Singapore authorities such that my son will be
>|> able to hold Singapore Citizenship. Both my wife and myself are
>|> Singaporeans. 
>|> I understand there is no Singapore Embassy in Toronto.
>|> 
>|> Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.
>|> 
>Since both of you are Singapore citizens, your son will not have problems getting
>Singapore citizenship if you do it NOW.  Singapore only have a consulate in 
>Canada at Vancouver, B.C.  The nearest embassy is at Washington D.C. and you can
>register your son via mail to them (the embassy).
>
>If some kind netter could post the address it would be great.  Otherwise give me
>a call in the evenings (596-6842) and I'll try to dig it up for you.
>-- 
>...Kyle              khor@bnr.ca         (613) 763-2488

Call 1-202-555-1212 - that is the # for directory assistance and then ask
for the Singapore Embassy #.

As a pointer to all:  you can get to directory assistance in the US very
easily by dialing 1-<area code>-555-1212.  Commit this to memory and 
now this note will self destruct.

Enjoy.

--
Harish Pillay                      harish%csar@uunet.uu.net
Singapore
From: jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Adder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: <None>
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:06:37 GMT
Organization: Legion of Dynamic Discord

In article <oFcwqB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, vickeong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor Jiun-Wen Keong) writes:
>         THE SHANGRI-LA HOTEL, MONTREAL, QUE. ON 25 SEP 1992.  
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wow.  Reminds me of a completely pointless but still ASEAN related story.
I was watching a speech by United States VP Dan Quayle over at the Shangri-La 
in Singapore a couple of years ago.  If I remember rightly, it was for the PECC 
(Pacific Economic Cooperation Conference or somesuch).  Anyway, after the 
speech was over (and he didn't make any mistakes.  I was flabbergasted) all of 
the audience was sorta mingling around a large room with many windows and 
several glass doors.
I had the misfortune of standing next to one of the glass doors when *BONG* it 
was bashed right in my face!
And who do you think, Singaporeans amongst you, did the *BONG*ing?

That's right!  You win a cookie!

Deputy PM Lee Hsien Loong himself!  The second-biggest Lee-dude in Singapore!
I kid you not.
All right, so it was a pointless story.  But I liked it anyway, and it is my 
only claim to ASEAN-fame.

-- adder
I don't care, I still don't like the taste of durians.  Not even after the 
McDonald's durian shake.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Job in South Asia
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:03:58 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


	Can anyone tell me where I can get some information about job 
opportunity (name and address of companies, contact person) in South Asia
countries?

	Thanks in advance.



Chun
cfs2b@Virginia.edu
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: KL mayor,Elyas,resigns
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:14:14 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep8.151833.2956@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> On Malaysian TV the PM, Dr. Mahathir, explained that Tan Sri Elyas, the
> mayor of Kuala Lumpur, has submitted his resignation letter because he
> admits responsibility for the purchase of 27 volvos by the City Hall
> (Dewan Bandaraya KL).

> Dr. Mahathir ealier, just a few days ago, mentioned that the journalists
> who leaked out the story about City Hall may be tried under the
> Malaysian official secrecy act. I still do not know what it was all about.
> I read earlier that some journalists(which one? may be those tabloids,
> my guess only) mentioned that there is misappropriation in City Hall, from
> New Straits Times(Malaysia). If I remember correctly, it had something to do
> with land application for housing projects which did not meet certain criteria.
> 
-
> Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
> Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
> Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
> Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
> 

	The cars that they purchased are Mercedes-Benz and not volvos.  I
happened to be back home when the scandal broke.  The whole affairs make
me sick.
	We have city officials who purchases luxury cars that are not fit
for their posts (only cabinet ministers are allowed to drive Benz).  In 
addition, they bought the cars at a price much higher than the market price
(obviously there are money under the table).  What make the affairs so
absurd is that there are some wise guys from UMNO youth who came to the 
defense of the city hall !!!  They mentioned something about the mayor of
KL needs to drive Benz and not some second rated cars so that the office
could look good.  
	On top of that, our prime minister is threatening to prosecute 
those people who leak the information to the press.  What a twist of
justice !!  We have a blatant case of corruption here and the government
is not concern about the offenders but rather the person(s) who make the
government look bad.   
	It seems this is only one of the corruption cases that were exposed.  
There are others cases such as celluar phone incidents and trading 
shares etc.  In each case,  the government is using the security act
to silence the critics.
	There are so many talks about 2020 in Malaysia nowsadays.  But how
can we reach the target when government officials are flagrantly siphoning 
public funds and get away with it ?  Slogan alone won't get us there.
   


Jack Teh   



	  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Reply-To: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:54:57 GMT


In a previous article, engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau) says:

>Andrew Tan (af620@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: The above article just goes to prove how "KIA-SU" Singaporeans are. Tis
>: funny how Singaporeans have this phobia of being attacked while Malaysians
>: could care less about doing so. Oi..wake up and smell the teh-o, lahh!!
>: If y'all get too naughty, we'll just raise the Causeway, and y'all
>: might just end up neighbours with New Zealand. Kiwipore? Naahhh...  ;)
>: 
>"Kia-Su" you might say, but the older generation of Singaporean learned
>their lessons from the Japanese occupation and the Indoneasia-Malaya
>confrontation. 

And I say that y'all are still living in the generation of yesteryears.
Please, the situation then and now is completely different. Malaysia has
more to lose than gain by attacking Singapore today. Do you really think
we'll bomb the hell outta Orchard Road when our relatives might happen to be
shopping nearby? Sheeshhh...

>Where were you then?  And now, you are within the
>security embrace of America.  You couldn't be bother what's happening
>at home.

What I and us, Malaysians, can't be bothered about is attacking Singapore.
Read my lips!!! What has my being in America got to do with anything? I'm
reiterating the fact that people in Malaysia could not care less and y'all
are "kia-su" to death! Besides, talking about the security embrace of
America, isn't that why y'all have Big Brother put a base there?
So what else are y'all so touchy about?

I just get so irked when people like you bad-mouth Malaysia like we're
some hostile country who's trying to attack another country. We're
peace loving and teh-o loving kinda people, lah...just more relaxed
and less "kia-su".

> If your country is attacked, you'll be given "refugee" status
>and continue to drink your teh-o.  For your fellow countrymen, they
>can alway find a place to hide and food to eat.  But what if we're attacked 
>or our life-line threathened, the possibility is always there, who are we to
>become then?  Another wave of "boat-people"?  Where women get rape by some
>fishermen.  You might be glad to see that happens but not me and a lot of
>other Singaporean.
>

Errr...try not to get too emotional will ya? Raped by Malaysian fishermen,
I presume? Shhessshhh...

>Andrew, don't be so sure of yourself.  With the revival of all these
>fundamentalism, do remember where you're from.  Hope you'll continue
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You don't mean "these (Islamic) fundamentalism", do you? If so, I have
nothing else to say to you.

>to enjoy you teh-o.


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From: vickeong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor Jiun-Wen Keong)
Subject: THE SINGAPOREAN in Canada
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:56:21 GMT

After so many false alarms, unwanted and unforseen disruptions, I am 
pleased to inform one and all that the very first Singaporean Student 
Newsletter for Canada is REALLY out!!!!!!!

The student advisor for Canada, Ms Ng Yun Sian, who is based in Burnaby, 
British Columbia, Canada, has been instrumental in the successful 
launching of the inaugural issue. 

For one and all whom I had promised copies, please call Ms Ng at:
                   (604) 439-3340 or
             fax   (604) 439-3329
to ensure that you will get one. 

While we rejoice at the triumph, planning for the next issue is already 
under way. Whoever wishes to help out, contribute your 2 cents worth, or 
express whatever sentiments (we have a forum page - a la The Straits 
Times), can e-mail yours truly. My internet mail address is :
                       v3keong@student.business.uwo.ca

For people in the US who wish to join in the fun, you are more than 
welcome!!!!! 

vickeong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor Jiun-Wen Keong)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: hra2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Hibatur Rahman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Any News On NAM Meeting?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:53:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi!  Has anyone heard any news about the NAM meeting in Jakarta?  Somehow, its
very hard to hear it from the "most advanced news system" in this country.  I
wonder why.  Maybe because those countries are not US allies and are not so
easy to become stupid tools for US interests.  What do you guys think?

Hibatur Rahman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Re: KL mayor,Elyas,resigns
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:49:00 GMT

In <1992Sep8.141414.58720@cc.usu.edu> fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:


>	The cars that they purchased are Mercedes-Benz and not volvos.  I
>happened to be back home when the scandal broke.  The whole affairs make
>me sick.
>	We have city officials who purchases luxury cars that are not fit
>for their posts (only cabinet ministers are allowed to drive Benz).  In 
>addition, they bought the cars at a price much higher than the market price
>(obviously there are money under the table).  What make the affairs so
>absurd is that there are some wise guys from UMNO youth who came to the 
>defense of the city hall !!!  They mentioned something about the mayor of
>KL needs to drive Benz and not some second rated cars so that the office
>could look good.  
   Hey, boys!!! What about showing some support to the LOCAL PROTON cars?
You mean they are not good enough for government officials? Must be second
rated cars then. I can't imagine the Australian PM or government official
driving around in Benzs in their official capacity other than in their good
faithful locally made luxury FORDs.

>	On top of that, our prime minister is threatening to prosecute 
>those people who leak the information to the press.  What a twist of
>justice !!  We have a blatant case of corruption here and the government
>is not concern about the offenders but rather the person(s) who make the
>government look bad.   

 I suppose nobody, and I mean NOBODY (maybe applicable to Malaysians only)
will ever ever dare to question our mighty prime minister's decision in any
matter, let alone exposing anything about him (I am not suggesting that he
has something "bad" to be exposed.).

-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Wey Jing Ho    Tel: 61-3-573-2567   E-mail : sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au<
>Physics Dept., Monash University ( Caulfield Campus ), Melbourne, AUSTRALIA<
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