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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Sirtis's English accent
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <383-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>, jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee) writes...
>In article <1992Jul20.154302.5683@iscsvax.uni.edu>, althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> 
>> *Yes!*  She most certainly does have an English accent (just like Patrick
>> Stewart!--dja ever wonder why a native Frenchman would have a *flawless*
>> English accent?  He must be a linguistic god).
> 
>Yes, especially when all the rest of his family have French accents...  :-)

if i remember correctly, in "family", his family had english accents as well.
i remember thinking, "doesn't ANYONE in france have a french accent any 
more???" :)

 sandra g. + illustrator-for-hire, buffalo ny + v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
  "once i was the king of spain.......................now i eat humble pie. "
                               -- moxy fruvous
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From: cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16)
Subject: Re: Brent Spiner and Skin Coloring
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:36:44 GMT

> Lose the green skin.  Data is easily one of the best characters on the
> show.  Changing actors would be horrific.  Spiner does an excellent
> job IMHO.  I'm not an theatre critic - I just like Spiner.  Anyone who
> says 'dig' and means it is alright in my book.

Are you blind! His skin is not green...
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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Star Trek heaven
Organization: DSC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:33:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.152232.6535@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller) writes:
> 
>  bbarber@sierra.com writes:
> 
> >Here in Dallas, aka Star Trek Heaven, we get 1 TOS and 12 TNG episodes per 
> >week. This is clearly the most favorable Star Trek viewing location that 
> >I have ever lived.
> 
> Ha!  Here in Toronto we get Star Trek even more!
> 
> 12 TNG episodes and at least 3 TOS episodes.
> 

(stuff deleted)

> 				Schmeby
> 					    mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 "Oops". -- Jean-Luc Picard, "Pen Pals"
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

For us dish owners, how much of this is on CBC? I can get about three or four
CBC feeds on my dish, but I don't watch enough to really have an idea of
what's on when. I know that I can catch The Streets Of San Francisco early
Sunday morning, and I USED to get The Man From Uncle and The Prisoner really
early on Sunday morning, but no more. Could you post the times of the
Star Trek episodes that are on CBC?

Thanks!

Larry

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From: smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 27 Jul 1992 10:40 EST  

In article <1992Jul27.133053.5612@aston.ac.uk>, evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes...
>cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:

>: 3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards.
>: Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law of
>: momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.
>vaporised Klingon, Newtons 3rd law of motion.

Lets talk about the nature of light (including phaser beams!). It has been
shown that light has properties of both energy and matter, so that a 
beam of light does have some mass.  Therefore it imparts momentum, and the 
Klingons should be shot back...


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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Guinan and Bald Men...wrt TAII
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul30.104349.1@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com>, cuy@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com writes...
>I don't remember anyone bringing this up before, but last night,
>KCOP in Los Angeles had a re-run of "Booby Trap."  There was a
>scene with Guinan and Geordi that was kind of interesting with
>regards to TA.
> 
>In the scene, Geordi asks Guinan (paraphrased) what it is that
>she finds interesting in a man.  She replies "Their heads....I
>have this attraction towards bald men."
> 
>The interesting part was that her explanation was that "....a bald
>man was nice to me once when I was hurting...." or something like
>that - does someone remember the exact wording??
> 
>Although this show was in the 2nd season (?), and I doubt that the
>writers had TA anywhere remotely in mind, what possibilities could
>this give us for TAII?
> 

all this says to me is that she's got the hots for the Captain. then again, 
what self-respecting female doesn't...?  <SMILEY FACE ALERT!!! :) :) :) >

sandra guzdek  +  username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  +  til 21 Aug 1992
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From: NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu (Nick Giacobe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:03:56 GMT
 <1992Jul30.015725.26699@wixer.cactus.org> <saurav.712518141@cory.Berkeley.EDU>
 <14753@umd5.umd.edu> <1992Jul30.192429.8030@news.mentorg.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Jul30.192429.8030@news.mentorg.com>, michael_robbins@mentorg.com
says:
>
>
>I can't remember (and I don't have a tape) but wasn't Shelby some sort of
>specialist (in the command line) before she came to the Big E to save the day?
>Also, wasn't she a Lt. Commander when she arrived, being given the rank
>(temp?)
>of Commander only after Riker made her first officer (and I assume gave her
>the
>rank)?
>
Yes, she was a LCDR when she arrived on the Enterprise.  Her duties were
supposed to be to advise Picard on the Borg and basically be a mission special-
ist.  She was to report directly to the Captain and was not in the direct chain
of command.  This changed when Picard was taken by the Borg.

Shelby was chosen by Riker to be his first officer, primarily because of her
knowledge of the Borg and the needs of the mission.  Riker could have chosen
any of the other crew members... and it was shown that he did consider each of
them.  He had to make excuses, especially to Data, Geordi, and Worf.  His
reasoning was somewhere along the lines of, "I need each of you where you are
becuase you're the best in what you do.  Shelby is new to the Enterprise,
doesn't really have a job, but her orders from the Admiral are to do those
things that a first officer would do anyway."   After that, Shelby was seen
wearing three whole pips instead of two and a half.

>
>In addition, Riker has been literally begged to take the big chair (how many
>times -- 3?).  Plus, he is also seen as a mega hero (after all he was in
>command of the ship that wasted the Borg).
>

But Riker has been asked to take command of several different vessels, not the
Enterprise.

>I think it would be interesting with her as Riker's Exec though (real
>interesting).  The interactions between Shelby and Worf (obviously) and Troi
>would merit a few good stories if not a nice constant side line.  However,
>Paramount won't want to spend the money rebuilding all of the sets that the
>two
>of those ego-be-us officers would blast and so Picard will be back.

I think that Shelby could offer us a lot more that we think.  She could be
shown to have a soft, human side, rather than being the cold b*tch that she was
in BOBW.  There could be new frienships, etc.  Also, Riker would have to take
his sex life off the Enterprise.  It wouldn't look good if the Captain was
busy screwing the ship's councilor... or the Nav. Officer... or the first off.
So, we might see a few episodes of Will on Risa... Hmm...

But why are we all talking about Picard leaving?  Have I missed something?
>
>Mick
>(michael_robbins@mentorg.com)

--Nick
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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: cloaking device 
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:09:53 GMT

In <1992Jul21.3208.8566@dosgate> "sam lefkowitz" <sam.lefkowitz@canrem.com> writes:
>  This may sound simplistic but why hasn't the Federation created their
>own cloaking device? They had the Klingon version on their trip to Earth
>to save the whales. I assume they are able to takes things apart and
>copy them. Any Ideas?

I am currently reading the book "The Undiscovered Country" by J.M Dillard
and in the book the Enterprise *CAN* cloak itself. 

When the Enterprise travels through Klingon space to Rura Penthe to rescue
Kirk and McCoy, she does so in a cloaked mode. This does not stop the
Klingon listening post at Mortagh Three from detecting the ship however.
It is also implied in the book that the listning posts along the 
Klingon-Romulan boarder can detect Romulan ships when cloaked.

During the final battle between Enterprise and Dakronh, Chang admires
Kirk for not keeping the Enterprise cloaked but instead for facing
Chang openly.

One of the key points in TUC is the ability of the Bird of Prey
to fire when cloaked. In the book at any rate it is claimed that
the Bird of Prey was based on the latest Klingon/Romulan technology, yet in
ST:TNG is has been claimed that ships cannot fire when cloaked. Ok I
understand that the Dakronh was destroyed by the Enterprise and Excelsior
and the proto-type was lost but I find it hard to believe that it hadn't
been redeveloped by the time of Picard and ST:TNG.

--
Donie Collins

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From: sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Friendly little poker games?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:51:48 EST

> Info on Friday night poker games deleted

What I would like to know is since they don't use money, what are they playing
for?  Playing without something of value is booorrriinng!

Ted
From: walter@nsc.nsc.com (Walter K. Hurwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: President of Federation in TUC
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:37:05 GMT
Reply-To: walter@nsc.nsc.com (Walter K. Hurwitz)
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

Hey!  Wasn't that guy on Robocop?  You know, the bad guy!

Regards,

wkh
From: Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Picard's English accent (was Re: Sirtis's English accent)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:57:57 EDT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Tampa, FL)

In article <Brqn4B.G0w@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
> In article <383-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>, jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee) writes...
>>In article <1992Jul20.154302.5683@iscsvax.uni.edu>, althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>>
>>> *Yes!*  She most certainly does have an English accent (just like Patrick
>>> Stewart!--dja ever wonder why a native Frenchman would have a *flawless*
>>> English accent?  He must be a linguistic god).
>>
>>Yes, especially when all the rest of his family have French accents...  :-)
> 
> if i remember correctly, in "family", his family had english accents as well.
> i remember thinking, "doesn't ANYONE in france have a french accent any
> more???" :)

I could have sworn that his brother, at least, had a French accent, and I 
was pretty sure that his brother's wife did, as well.

Of course, the coordinator for that undersea city had an American accent...

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From: bp629@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel J. Nye)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Reply-To: bp629@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel J. Nye)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:00:41 GMT


In a previous article, wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) says:

>
>In a previous article, kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) says:
>
>>Light has energy, too, and therefore momentem as a result.  It can be
>>assigned an equivalent mass using E=mc^2.  Thus its momentum, in a
>>classical sense, is mc (or E/c).  Since a phaser beam is supposed to
>>pack a lot of energy, it should have momemtem too, and cause a recoil
>>for the person holding the weapon (just like firing a conventional
>>gun or rifle). SF movies often forget about this.
>
>Don't worry.  No one will rest until an explanation can be found for
>why the phaser blast knocks people down, but doesn't recoil.  It
>couldn't possibly be an oversight on the part of production...
>-- 
>
>                        [currently under construction]
>
>
>
I would say that the energy of the phaser caused a gaseous explosion
That forced the bodies back. (They were in Zer0-G, but not in Vacuum.)
 
I should add that I enjoyed the realism of the blood globules. (No, I'm
not blood-thirsty.)  Such details I've only read in CyberPunk novels.
That's what fluid DOES in space.
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From: dgemoets@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Darren Gemoets-- CSC)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:35:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>In <plp1.711401174@Ra.MsState.Edu> plp1@Ra.MsState.Edu (pat parker) writes:
>>Bev Crusher is the only looker on this list.
>I agree.  Yar looked too much like a man for me.
>>the best looking woman on TNG was minuet.
>You bet!

How about the woman from the Clan Trilesta in, I think, "The Vengeance Factor".
Also, somebody mentioned the transporter operator from "The Outrageous Okona".
And finally, there was the woman from "The Schizoid Man".  Whew.  I have to
re-watch these episodes!

Darren Gemoets
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From: pgf@srl01.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine and BABYLON 5
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:54:23 GMT

Actually, after having read much of the stuff about Babylon 5,
I have been struck by an amazing resemblance between the
description of Babylon 5 and the background universe of
C.J.Cherryh's _Downbelow_ books....

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From: jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi on Hunter
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:59:05 GMT
Organization: Kentucky Fried Chicken, Tehran--A Subsidiary of gagme, Chicago, IL
Originator: jasonl@gagme

In article <1992Jul17.123134.28391@ncsu.edu> jhpace@eos.ncsu.edu (Jerrold H. Pace) writes:
:>
:>I saw the actress who plays Troi on Hunter last night.  Hunter was about a man
:>looking for photograph that incriminated him, and one of Hunter's old friends
:>was this Australian-accented lush, who was the actress Marina Strites (sp?).
:>
:>There you go, another pre-Stak Trek spotting.  And yes, she still played an
:>easy woman.

And since this was originally produced for network television, we have to start
a new category for Marina Sirtis roles discussed on the net... ones where she
appears WITH clothing! :-)

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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Season 6 Transporter Accident
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:46:11 GMT

In article <712427105@macbeth.cs.duke.edu> kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone) writes:
>Since DeForest Kelly has already appeared on TNG as not-Dr.-McCoy-but-an-
>incredible-simulation, and Leonard Nimoy has already appeared as Spock, both
>without any time-juggling tricks, why is it necessary to use time-tricks to
>get Scottie into TNG timeline? Is his character older than the others?

DeForest Kelly appeared *as* Dr. McCoy, not "as not-Dr.-McCoy-but-an-
incredible-simulation".  I don't understand your point.  He was also
incredibly aged and haggard.

Leonard Nemoy was able to appear as relatively young-looking because
he's a Vulcan, and Vulcans have extraordinarily long life spans.  The
whole point of this discussion is that Doohan is going to appear as
Scotty, but not as an ancient man.  He's going (I recall some poster
saying) to appear as he appears now in real life.  Given the time period
which has passed, he couldn't do this without some sort of time travel
unless it turns out that he's not human after all.  Maybe they find him
cryogenically frozen?  :-)

>(Of course, given Doohan's continuing expansion (If it's OK for the universe
>it's OK for him too, I guess), they could make another trip back in time to
>transport a whale.)
>
>No worries,
>
>Scooter corleone
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From: NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu (Nick Giacobe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:20:20 GMT
 <7123569413051@neptune.mcs.anl.gov> <0eRd_Dy00UhW01K_AA@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <0eRd_Dy00UhW01K_AA@andrew.cmu.edu>, Bryan Michael Kearney
<bk1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>
>(Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer) says:
>
>>the senior officers in *Command* are male:  Picard, Riker, Data, Geordi, and
>>Worf.  The only 2 female bridge officers are a counselor and a doctor:  both
>>are in "caring" roles.  Don't get me wrong; I think that Dr. Crusher and Troi
>
>
>Now, if I am correct, does not Troi hold equal rank with that of Data? I
>dont know where the doctor fits in, but at least Troi is a senior
>Officer (assuming that Data is, and assuming that data is a man).
>
>-- bk

Troi holds the rank of LCDR, and yes that is the same as Data.  Crusher holds
the rank of Commander and position od Chief Medical Officer (the only one on
board who can relieve the Captain of his duties.)   This is all fine and dandy
but the original post pointed out that there are no women in the direct chain
of command of the Big E.  I personally thought that Commander Shelby was a
perfect introduction of a woman in the command structure.  Her character had
all the fire and young blood the bridge crew needed.  Well, I guess we'll have
to wait and see what happens in season 6!

--Nick
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: DS9 and Babylon 5
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:32:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.021910.3873@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>
>Well, I just hunted for this group today after hearing rumours of the
>Deep Star 9 series that was to start up soon.
>
>After looking around on here, I noticed references to Babylon 5, which I 
>have never heard of before.
>
>Questions:
>
>1. When is DS9 proposed to start?
>2. Is Babylon 5 also in the Star Trek theme?

Some would argue that it's the other way around.


>3. Why don't we see Q anymore?

He's taken maternity leave from the show.


>4. Will there ever be a Star Trek movie that doesn't include Kirk, Bones,
>   Spock, and the likes of the old crew?  Why beat a dead horse?  Paramont
>   has a nice set up going here... I want to see more!

Oh, now you're asking questions on the fundamental nature of the
universe.  'Fraid I can't help you out there.

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: kling is a person!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:17 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>Perhaps some other people might learn to use killfiles so that they don't
>have to read these "idiotic threads" they object to so vehemently?

>Nah, that's too obvious.

Clap clap clap!  (That's not sarcasitc either!)


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