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From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Shuttle craft on DS9
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:40:44 GMT

The shuttle craft that was in DS9 seemed a bit larger
than the ones on board the Enterprise. Are they much bigger?
How do they compare with the other shuttles that we have
seen before?

-- 

Tarun Kripalani 
e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca

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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 novel out yet?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:37:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
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In a previous article, jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer) says:

>A recent "coming books" list indicated DS9 #1 due in February.  Does anyone
>know if it is a novelization of "Emissary" (like TNG's novelization of
>EaF)?  If so, I would have expected the novelization to have come out before
>the episode, like "Relics" did.  If anyone knows about this, please e-mail me 
>the info.  Thanks,

It's out here in Cleveland.  It is a novelization of the first
episode...

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From: prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU ()
Subject: Gates leaving STTNG?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:54:13 GMT


   I've been out of town for the past week, and upon my return,
a friend told me that he had heard that Gates McFadden was
leaving STTNG. His details were not clear, except that he said
he saw it on ShowBiz Today (in Canada) on Thursday, and that
it was due in part to contract negotiations. He also mentioned
something about her being in an upcoming movie. Can anybody
either confirm or deny this rumour? Thanks much,

   Peter
From: gregt+@CMU.EDU (Gregory Ross Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Upcoming ST:TNG Program Guide 6.02 release
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:02:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8fGvZsW00YUo08RgI5
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> Even though the 6.01 version of the guide will be ready at the ftp site in the
> near future, this posting is to inform you of the upcoming 6.02 release.

  Pardon my ignorance, but what's the address for the FTP site?

		-Greg
		 InterNet: gregt+@cmu.edu
		       or: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu
		 BITNet  : R746GT0T@CMCCVB
		 AOL     : GRThompson
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: WHO'S HOTTEST ON DS9?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:02:35 GMT

In <caen.umich.edu-110193133911@aha158.ccs.itd.umich.edu> caen.umich.edu (William Johnson) writes:

>In article <15787.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>,
>chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) wrote:
>> 

>> 
>> I vote for Nana Visitor (Maj. Kira Nelys (?))... she's a robo-babe! :)
>> She's a fox! In France, she'd be called la renarde, and she'd be hunted
>> with her cunning as her only defense. :)
>> 
>> (Misquoted Wayne's World...)
>> 
>> Chris Burgess
>> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
>>                                                                                                         
>My God!  I thought that this would be over after the Troi nonsense.  What
>in the name of (insert favorite holy symbol) does this really matter?  
>Aren't we old enough by now to end this sophomoric rating on a
>"Babe-o-meter?"

Ah... what can it hurt. Besides, unlike ST:TNG whether are many possible
candidates, right now DS9 has only two... namely the ones already named so
let them rant and rave about which one they like (Put me down as
neutral.. I like BOTH of them!) and let's just watch the show!

Alan Bick

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: DID ANYONE PICK THIS UP -CoC II- Poss. Sp.
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 20:59:42 GMT

>>>the artifacts had been _unearthed_. I just find it
>>>                          ^^^^^    
>>>kind of odd that the Cardassian would refer to the
>>>excavation of some other planet as unearthing, since
>>>that word is linked to our planet EARTH.
>>
>>However, the word "earth" is also an english synonym for dirt, which has more
>>relation to the word "unearthed" than the name of our planet does. Since Picard
>>and Madred were speaking english (or whatever it's called in the 24th century)
>>it was an entirely appropriate word to use.
>
>True "earth" is a synonym for dirt, but that is because it was derived from
>the name of our planet. As I said in a previous post, would make sense to
>say that some artifact was "unearthed" on Mars?   

Yes, it would, because even though the word "unearthed" contains the name of 
our planet, it is a non-planet specific word. 

As for the Martian artifact, what would you prefer, "unmarsed"?


-- 
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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: DS9 was very very BAD : (
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:50:44 GMT

From article <1993Jan8.063544.12057@a.cs.okstate.edu>, by worley@a.cs.okstate.edu (WORLEY LAWRENCE JA):
> Pardon my ignorance, but is TNG going off the air (new episodes) this spring,
> being replaced by DS9, or is DS9 just another simultaneous series, with TNG
> going on as usual?  I really like the crew on TNG, I hope they don't trash
> it in favor of DS9, I didn't like the premier episode as well as most of
> the TNG episodes.

	Just to add fuel to your fire, one of my friends really didn't care
for it either (ironicly, his name was Jason too ;) ...

	I, on the other hand, am waiting excitedly to pull the next 
episode off good ol' Telstar 301 on Saturday ;)

 TTYL
 Chris

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: DSN musings
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 03:40:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.052249.18711@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <00966280.FB446D60@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2186filterj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>Well, I just watched Deep Space Nine the Premiere last night and here's what I
>>thought.  But first....
>>
>>WARNING! WARNING! DANGER WILL ROBINSON! WARNING!
>>the following text may or may not contain spoilers.  read at your own risk

>>
>>
>>One thing that bothered me -- and I almost hate to bring it up -- but did
>>anyone else see that O'Brien was only wearing a single hollow pip?  Maybe I
>>missed the other solid pip, but I don't think so.  If that was the case, then
>>he is enlisted.
>
>Not only that, but in the scene between Picard and O'Brien in the transporter
>room just before O'Brien leaves for DSN, doesn't Picard call O'Brien 
>*Ensign*? I'm going to watch it again this Thursday, and listen very carefully.

Ok, I re-watched the scene, just like I said I would, and I totally mis-
interpreted it. The "Ensign" spoken by Picard was directed to the Ensign
standing at the transporter console. So, they haven't demoted O'Brien
THAT badly...

He was, however, only wearing one hollow pip...


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From: ren@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ren Hoek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Use of "sir"
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:01:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

>>>Can someone please give specific examples of when a female superior officer
>>>was referred to as "sir" by a crew member?  Was this ever done in the original
>>>series or in the movies?  I know it's been done on TNG but I can't remember
>>>specific instances.
>>

On the episode of ST:TNG, where Weseley (sp?) Crusher has a trial at his 
academy.  They call the judge (female) "sir", several times repeatedly.

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From: byork@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Avery Brooks has att
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:15:53 EST
Distribution: world
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <9771.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield)  writes:
> On 29 Dec 92 15:11:36 CST, kuvamp@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
> 
> KU>AVERY BROOKS:  DON'T LOOK FOR HIM AT TREKKIE CONVENTIONS
> 
> KU>Gee, isn't it great that Paramount picks actors to whom this is just another
> KU>job, and who have no idea what this role means to people?  I mean if he's
> KU>not willing to put up with the fandom, he should keep his B-grade tv series
> KU>ass at home and give the job to someone who can handle it.  Leave your Ego at
> KU>the door, Avery, or this will be a SHORT job.
> 
> I'm sure you speak for a good many people, and my response is:  Fandom,
> leave YOUR ego at the door.
> 
> Television acting IS a job.  That's what Avery Brooks is being hired for,
> to act.  If he does a good job (and judging by his past performances, I
> have every reason to believe he will), then we fans will be lucky to have
> him as part of Star Trek.  He, or any other Star Trek actor, is under no
> obligation whatsoever to appear at conventions; it's not part of the job
> description.  From what I've seen at some of the cons, I'm not sure *I'd*
> want to appear at them either.
> 
> Avery Brooks can best serve Star Trek, and Star Trek fandom, by giving the
> best performances he is capable of giving.  Period.
> 
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                   Agreed!
                       Barry
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From: smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:06:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Carl Oppedahl (oppedahl@panix.com) wrote:
: In <lk34874@pro-woolf.cts.com> bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Bev Woolf - Sysop) writes:
: 
: >Ronny Cox was also in a series a long time ago called 'Apple's Way' and he
: >was in the movie 'Deliverance'.  He wrote the song 'Dueling Banjos' that
: >was used in that movie.
: 
: A bunch of us are sitting here wondering what part he played in
: "Deliverance".
: 
: What a neat item of trivia that he wrote the banjo song.
:

Cox was the wimp of the four city slickers and the one who died--they found
his pretzelized body downstream.

I used to own the recording of "Dueling Banjos", and I don't think he wrote
the song.

cheers,
scott 
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: DSN random comments
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 04:39:42 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: clin@feedback.eng.umd.edu



spoilers


   Until I watch this show more, I'm probably not going to get the names
quite right.   While the show was pretty heavy on the special effects,
I'm not sure it was as interesting as I thought it could be.  It reminded
me of the TNG episode in the first season with Riker and the Ferengis stuck
on a planet, for some reason.   While Avery Brooks wasn't bad, only the initial
scene with he and Stewart seemed to crackle, and even this confrontation
was diffused.  He seems,  umm, nice.   The second-in-command, initially,
seemed a lot like Ro in mannerisms, so the actor chosen seemed a good choice.
Still, the scene where she tries to dare the Cardassians to a fight didn't
sound quite right to me, and I thought it could have been done a little better.

   Odo doesn't seem too bad, but had a few lines at the beginning and did a
lot of nodding.   I also have some reservations about the doctor, but they
didn't dwell too much on his character, so I'll wait and see.   Quark seems
pretty good so far though he seems to show that not all Ferengi are out
for profit and do care about their relatives.   O'Brien is about the same, but
at least this is a better role than transporter chief.  Of course, it does
raise the question of where's Keiko, but I'm sure they'll bring her aboard
soon.

   After watching "Chain of Command", DSN was a bit of a letdown, but then
the first ST-TNG episode wasn't great either.   I think they need to make
the show a little more tense.   The set should be kept pretty dark.  Etc.,
etc.   And, of course, the music really stinks....

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:17:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

>>rank of Captain and give command (not "temporary command") of the Enterprise.
> 
> Gee, it sure looked like "temporary command" to me.  When Picard came back,
> Riker was no longer in command.  Or are you using a different definition of
> "temporary" than I am?
> 
> It seemed to me that Riker was put in command because there was no time (or
> resources) to get someone more qualified out to the ship, given the threat of
> the Borg.

That's not how it seemed to me.  Here is the conversation in "Best of Both
Worlds Part II" regarding his promotion:
Admiral: Commander Riker, I hereby promote you to the field commission of
	Captain.  The Enterprise is your ship now.  Congratulations.
	I only wish the circumstances were happier.

This was a full promotion to full Captain, and we know it was going to stick
because at the end of the episode Shelby still holds the promotion she'd
been given by Captain Riker.  
Riker voluntarily stepped down when Picard was brought back to them, and
had Picard not been freed from the Borg or killed and the Borg ship 
still somehow destroyed, Riker would have kept the command with Shelby as
his First Officer.  Everything seen in BOBWII suggests this.
> 
> Well, except that they haven't done a single thing with this in the 2+ years
> since "The Best Of Both Worlds".  Shelby estimated at the end of BOBW that it
> would take a year to build ships to replace the Wolf 359 losses.  It's been
> longer than that, and it doesn't look like Riker was offered the command of
> any of those vessels.  Nor does he seem to be crying in his beer about it.

Riker deliberately chose not to take any of those commands so that he could
stay on the Enterprise, which is the best ship in the fleet.  
Shelby even says in BOBWII that she imagines Riker will have his choice of
any Starfleet command.  He then replies that his career plans are his own
business and no one else's, but that it was nice to know he'd have some
options.
> 
> I think the writers (as usual for TNG) just stuck that bit in BOBW for that
> one story and have conveniently ignored it ever since.

Well, I don't think so.  So there.


> 
> -- 
> Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
> University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
> ( Now in the Boston, Massachusetts area! )
> 
> "Beauty... survives."
> 				- James T. Kirk, "That Which Survives"

Steven.K.Manfred

"Don't you ever get tired of being right?" asked Dayna.
"Just with the rest of you being wrong," answered Avon.
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From: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Subject: Re: Vulcan Captain??? (Major Mistake!!!)
Reply-To: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Organization: Applicon
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:13:08 GMT

In article <1ihv50INNeg1@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, holland@geop.ubc.ca (Stephen Holland) writes:
|>  
|> In article 726386491@cunews, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
|> >
|> >Now how the hell did the captain die at Wolf 359 and then show up at the
|> >Academy. I find it hard to believe that anyone escaped Wolf 359 (The Borg
|> >were pretty thorough.) but Emissary made it pretty clear that the Vulcan
|> >was dead. Have I overlooked anything?
|> >
|> Well... Spock died and then came back to life.  Perhaps the Vulcan captain
|> did the old mind meld thing with one of the Saratoga's crew before he was blown
|> into little pieces.  That crewmember escaped and managed to return to
|> Star Fleet HQ.  Star Fleet then used the transporter trace to construct
|> a new body for the Vulcan, took the crewmember and the new body to the
|> Vulcan temple in Star Trek III, and voila!  Vulcan reincarnation!  
|> 
|> steve holland
|> 


This would also explain why he was such a sourpuss during the cadets' trial
in 'The First Duty.'

   ("Being disintegrated makes me VERY ANGRY...")


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From: hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney)
Subject: Re: SHIP CLASSIFICATIONS II
Organization: Home
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:29:00 GMT

The Enterprise unloaded 3 "Runabout" class vessels onto DS9.
From: jgray@crash.cts.com (Jeff Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 Dax vs TUC Dax **NO SPOILERS**
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:55:48 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <C0pEL8.BBn@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.145640.14291@umiami.ir.miami.edu> tsellers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
>>
>>Also...wasn't the ensign framed for the murders of the Klingon emissaries 
>>in ST:VI named Dax?  If so, I'd like a future episode to either confirm 
>>or contraindicate whether it was the same Dax.  This could be interesting.
>>
>I know that its tough to advance in todays Starfleet, but isn't 75+ years to
>make Lt. a bit extreme?
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What could possibly contrived as a spoiler follows all of this dead
space...


























Ah, but in DS9 when Sisko first meets Dax as she (?) boards the
station,  the good doctor character is hitting on her and Dax says to
Sisko "He thinks I'm 28." and Sisko says "He's about 300 years off."
If the Trill symbiotes live MUCH longer than their hosts, then, yes,
Dax (the symbiot) could've been on the Enterprise A in TUC.  This would
also make sense, that when a Trill changes hosts they must start at the
bottom and work their way up from the beginning.  This also has an
indirect idea implied to other species that the Trill are not joined.
Apparently it isn't COMMON knowledge in Starfleet that the Trill are
joined (Dr. Crusher's reaction in The Host, and Odan telling the
warring factions that he is the son of the moderator years before
spring to mind as examples...)  Comments are welcome.

  -Jeff

"How are you supposed to read this?  There aren't any pictures!"
    -Gaston  'Beauty & the Beast'
From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN - questions, poss
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

On 5 Jan 1993 11:31:28 GMT, bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) wrote:

JB>The actor's name is Marc Alaimo and he played Gul Maset in
JB>"The Wounded", in which Captain Ben Maxwell of the U.S.S.
JB>Phoenix goes ape shit shooting Cardassian ships left
JB>and right.

JB>Marc Alaimo also played the Romulan commander in "The Neutral
JB>Zone", the 1st season closer. He is vying with David Warner
JB>for most roles played in ST.

Vying?  Alaimo beats Warner out by one, as of this week.

Warner has three:  the ambassador from Star Trek V, Chancellor Gorkon from
Star Trek VI, and Gul Madred from "Chain of Command".

Alaimo has four:  Commander Tebok from "The Neutral Zone", Gul Macet from
"The Wounded", the gambler (also known as Frederick La Rouque) from "Time's
Arrow I", and Gul Dukat from "Emissary".

DS9 also boosts Armin Shimerman's number to four, and Max Grodenchik's to
three.

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From: S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: 62 Re: Schisms : Somebody is out of uniform!
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:18:23 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

>Geez, last I heard, Levi's were 19th century clothes.
>
>I suppose if jeans have been around for a hundred years so far, they could
>still be around in the 24th century.
>
>BC

Kirk wore Levi's in STV:TFF while camping (you can see the label while
he's on the bridge, before he sits down).

-=Road Warrior=-
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Subject: Re: Jadzia Dax
From: WEZAMG@DEVAX1 (George ZAMROZ)
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:04:43 +1000
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Organization: BHP Information Technology
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In <1993Jan6.192843.22837@rtc.atk.com> siejko@rtc.atk.com writes:

> 
> Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but the
> name Jadzia Dax (the 300 year old trill )
> very strongly reminds me of the Polish word
> for "Grandpa", which (I think) is spelled Dzadzia.
> This is pronounced "Ja-ja",  with the a pronounced as
> the a in "bar".  
> 
> Can any polish speaking trekkers confirm this?
> 
> -Kris 
> 
> 
Jadzia is also a Polish name. I believe it to be a short form of Jadwiga, but
don't know if there is an Enligh equivalent.

George Zamroz
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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: No more holodeck episodes
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:17:25 GMT

Mark Brodsky writes
> Araggggg, another Holodeck show. [..]

I'm very tired of the non-ST:TNG episodes too (in which I
include all episodes occuring in the old west [I hate the old
west crap]).  If I wanted to see Sherlock Holmes, I'd watch
Sherlock Holmes.  If I wanted to see the old west, I'd watch shows
about it. 
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
d west [I hate the old
west crap]).  If I wanted to see Sherlock Holmes, I'd watch
Sherlock Holmes.  If I wanted to see the old 
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