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From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: they pelted us with rocks and garbage
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:14:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <92241.172802U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> U19807@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

>You're Not The Only One...Well,Sort Of...Dep't: Back in the old days of the
>C/FO Chicago,my buddy Juris was attending Roosevelt University here in
>Chicago and thought that since quite a few Japanese students were living in
>the dorms there, it'd be a hep idea to put up posters which advertised the
>club in order to attract some of 'em.

Bad idea. It is very unrealistic to expect that people who pay
$15,000-plus tuition per year, not counting living expenses (at least at
Boston University) will sit down and translate cartoons (talking about
international undergrads in general, not just Japanese undergrads). 

>He put the balance of the posters up
>near places where you'd find overseas students congregating (the dorms,the
>international student department office,the English as a Second Language
>office,etc.) and made the posters especially noticeable by marking "HEY!
>ANIME FAN!" in katakana on the posters with fluorescent underliner markers.
>He thought that this would attract a virtual army of transplanted _otaku_

If what I read on the net a couple of months ago is true, the "otaku" stigma
also implies low societal status, making it highly unlikely that an "otaku"
will go and study in a (very expensive) US university.

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From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Subject: Re: Anime GIFs Posting Questions
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:50:23 GMT


>>>>> In article <37235@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, mlobbia@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Kaneda) writes:

mlobbia> I have a few questions:

mlobbia> 1. Do you prefer GIF over other formats?  Most of my files
mlobbia> are 24-bit JPEG files, and I'm considering uploading them in
mlobbia> this format.  What are your opinions on this?

As long as the quality is good, I much prefer JPEG format: takes up
less disk space, and you get more than 256 colors, though a lot of
artwork has (originally) fewer than 256 colors, scanning  & quantizing
generally doesn't get quite the same as the original colors.

My 2 (hmmm, no yen symbol on this keyboard....)

--
 Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> / Just Another Anime & Manga Fan
From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Streamline sighting!  (SFBC)
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:46:27 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division


Just another example of anime appearing in the mainstream:

The latest bulletin of the Science fiction Book Club lists 
2 video releases by Streamline on videotape-

Lensman & Robot Carnival.  Unfortunately, they were selling for $39.95
which is $10 more than what they retail for.

Caveat Otaku!

Steve
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From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ranma 1/2 Nettouhen episode 137
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:08:43 GMT
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <2AA24A82.14686@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken) writes:
>
> NAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIII?! I guess this means Ranma-chan would be
> getting any more "favors"/"treats" from any more guys...unless..OH NO!
> TAKAHASHI, DON'T DO IT!!!!
>
> Not to mention...Now thaat this happened, how mny more stories can Ranma 1/2
> go through?

The manga and anime have a slightly different continuity so I don't see it as
big a problem as that (for the manga any way :-)  But if they are wrapping up
the anime it makes sense...

Michael
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Sentinels in Novel Form
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 18:58:59 GMT


The Sentinels is available in novel form, yes--and listen to me, it is 
BETTER--these books are better--than the original Robotech novel series.
Why?  Because Jack McKinney doesn't have to stick to a script, just a plot
outline.  He (or rather "they"; Jack McKinney is a pseudonym for two au-
thors who work together) was thus free to make the story much deeper than  
it could be if it were just based on the TV shows.  In a way, that could be
considered the continuation of the TV series...

Palladium Books also has a Sentinels role-playing game/sourcebook, com-
patible with its other Robotech game.  It's full of neat drawings, even
if the system isn't all that great.
---Chris Meadows

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Looking for Dominion Stuff.
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:19:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.171445.14943@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>They're not just looking...the Dominion poster and t-shirt that they
>were selling at the Expo was available in last month's Previews
>catalog (October orders) - for a good deal more than they were selling
>them at the con!  Glad I got mine when I did....

Nikaku also has the poster and t-shirt (large only, I believe) in their
latest update.  The t-shirt has a picture of one of the Puma sisters
holding a wicked knife while the poster (from what I could make out based
on that little B&W photocopy) looks like a cool Shirow picture of the
-- 
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Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: [Curtis Hoffman] Movie depicts Greek myth
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:02:56 GMT

In article <BttuAA.Ar3@jrd.dec.com>, doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?= ) writes:
> 
>    Why would a Japanese animator make a film about a young Greek called
> Melos who lived in ancient Sicily?
>    Because most members of the audience, especially those of
> junior-high-school age or above, would know the story: Osamu Dazai's
> "Hashire Merosu! (Run, Melos!)" has been a school textbook staple for
> decades.

This film I've seen, in American TV.  It was a mediocre anime, at best.
The US distributor was Harmony Gold, and miraculously enough they didn't
change a thing, as far as plot goes.
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Patlabor Questions
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:40:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.050541.12791@csus.edu> kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (John A. Kilpatrick) writes:
>I have just started watching the Patlabor OVAs for the first time and I have
>a few questions.  Please send all responses in e-mail.
>
>1) In the opening animation, is Noa's hair black or is that someone else?

Noa's hair has always been red, as far as I know...

>2) Are the Animag synopsies AFU?  (all F***ked up)?  They seem to have the
>names right in the pictures ...I think.  [...]

The names were mixed up in the Animag character descriptions.  Exchange
Asuma Shinohara and Isao Ota and lots of confusion will disappear... :-)

Asuma is Noa's controller, and Ota-san is the pilot for Ingram #2...

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Subject: Re: Romanov heir =? Nene's ancestor ??? 
From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:26:46 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <37625@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.160952.2571@nic.csu.net> ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes:
>>For those of you who are curious; there apparently are Russian nobility
>>still alive. I remember seeing some CNN segment about a Grand Duke 
>>some kind of cousin to the last cousin; who was still alive.
>
>Actually, didn't that segment say he just died?
>
>The Grand Duke, the Tsar's brother, was head of the White Army when
>the two Revolutions came around.  As a result, he escaped the fate of
>the rest of the Royal family.  I think he briefly joined the "Whites"
>during the Russian Civil War, and later escaped to the West.
>
[This is getting a bit off the subject...]

as I said before .. I wasn't sure.. it was perhaps a Grand Duke.. The 
article basically commented that there  exists an heir to th throne
and that he was alive and well and wanting to help his homeland..



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From: kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Danielle Scott's Finality!
Keywords: I AM OUT OF HERE!
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:56:36 GMT

Saiyonara, Danielle-san, and good luck!
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From: vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: gundam
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 13:58:31 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:

- In article <1992Aug28.202134.2288@athena.mit.edu> cam@athena.mit.edu (Daniel 
- 
- >	so what happened to ZZ?  I know that it was intended to be a joke,
- >something to kill GUndam off, but at some point it started to get serious.
- >Did Tomino change his mind and decide that he liked it after all?
- >Everything was all happiness and cute, with the mandatory mecha stealing
- >in every episode, but then Ple II showed up, Glenmy got serious,
- >everybody became super-newtypes and started glowing, but most of the cast
- >survived.  What a crock.  THe Hambrabi team killed a bunch of characters
- >before they ran into Emma Sheen and Camille, and all they had were
- >electric lines and mild beam cannons.  Why did Tomino let so many
- >characters live?  In CCA and 0080, we had few survivors.  And whatever
- >happened to all the left overs from ZZ?  I heard that Jude was supposed
- >to show up eventually and fight Hathaway, but no real details.
- 
- Tomino changed his mind and the story after the production of
- CCA was decided and he had to get rid of all the unnecessary elements
- for CCA. Originally, Char was supposed to fight Hamaan in the later
- part of ZZ but that had to be changed too, for CCA.
- 
- Jude NEVER appears again in Gundam Universe, not even in LIGHTNING
- HATHAWAY, where Hathaway is a leader of an anti-federation group 
- called "Mafty Naviu Erin". I'll be doing a detailed synopsis of
- LIGHTNING HATHAWAY in UC Herald 2.
- 

Another character comes to mind... What ever happened to Cammille. I 
don't think it was ever reavled what happened to him after Gundam ZZ. As 
far as I know he is still alive (Ok, so he does have brain damage, but 
then he is a Newtype and one never knows...)


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
< Vlad G. Pohnert                            >> First thought that >
< "BAKA no Baka" Fanzine Co-ordinator        >> Gato has after     >
< Want a career in Anime?                    >> seeing the GPO3:   >
< Join Strike Force Baka and help kick butt  >> "Gundam in a       >
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>breadbox!!" >>>>>>>>
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Andrew vs. AKIRA
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:20:19 GMT

In article <9208261406.AA13296@tmcpcnet.tmc.edu> Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu writes:
>Well, it looks like Nature's flying erase head is about to visit itself
>on our fair municipality. It's God's judgement on the River Oaks theatre
>for showing Streamline's subtitled CAGLIOSTRO. I just hope it doesn't
>look like the last 10 minutes of AKIRA...But you know things are bad
>when you call up the National Weather Service Hotline, and all you get
>is "Nearer, My God, To Thee."
>
>--Carl "Blue Water" Horn

Here's hoping that everyone in that area came out OK...

[NOTE: At the time of this posting, reports of widespread damage from
       Andrew have started coming in over the radio... :-(]

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Subject: Sanctuary (no longer Re: rumor about Shirow)
From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:01:00 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

Benjamin Daniel Taylor writes:
>Shirow's conflict parallels for me a people suffering from such injustice 
>and simulataneously being the source of such wonderful stories.
>
>In this light, discovering "Sanctuary" was a profound experience, IMHO.

I found it to be a very powerful and profound work. If I can be allowed
another three-penny word, it'd be 'inspirational.' It's hard to believe
that the author of North Fist (that's the rumor I heard) wrote it....

It's the *only* translated manga that I collect for the story, though
the artwork is spectacular as well. And it's one of the few that I can
read and time really passes (it and Shirow stuff) Most of the other
ones I pick up I can completely read and finish and feel really ripped
off. (I like the art of Venus War II, but this is one complaint I do
hold against it.)

I don't suppose there is anything else like it, is there (translated
or otherwise?) 2001 Nights seems to come close in intensity, but the
subject matters are worlds apart... (pardon the pun)

>"Hello.  My name is Oedipus.  You are my father.  Prepare to die."


-- 
Quick!!  Act as if nothing has happened!
From: fongj@honi.EE.McGill.CA (chun kwai jay fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ...
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:42:38 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Sorry everyone,

  for wasting bandwidth like this but is it just me or is ANIME-L not sending
mail out again?

Jay
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Subject: Re: NG Knight Lamune & 40 question (Please help!)
Reply-To: as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 00:13:24 GMT


In a previous article, amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada) says:

>      I have a question for those who have watched any of Lamune & 40:
>
>    Where does Lamunes get the special metal coins for the mecha from?  Did
>he have to find them?  Or did they come with Tama-Q and the uniform?  
>
>
	As far as I know, The King Scasher metal coin came with Tama-Q
and the uniform.  I don't think it ever mentions where Lamunes gets the
rest from.  I've always assumed that when he shrunk the other mecha to
the eggs and gave them to Tama-Q, Tama-Q in turn gave him a metal coin.

					Eric



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From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: When is anime not anime?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:33:19 GMT

>  > [...] I do find it funny that Carl changed
>  > "White Nuts" to "White Knights" to make it sound "better," but didn't mess
>  > with the characters' names (Apple, Champ, and J.J.?!  C'mon!).

(Lost the identity of the the person who posted this in a buffer shuffle, but
it shouldn't matter all that much.)

	"White Nuts?"  Interesting.  I'm pretty sure that the SEGA Master
System games (English versions) "Zillion" and "Zillion II: The Tri-Formation"
(which came out many years ago.  How old is the anime?) used the term "White
Knights" in their instructions. (I don't have the cartridge with me, but I 
would have remembered something like "White Nuts," and I'm almost positive I
read "White Knights" in the manual.)  So Carl might have known/been informed
about that. 

SMS Game (English version)	Anime (Carl's English version)
--------------------------	------------------------------
    Apple, J.J., Champ                Apple, J.J., Champ
          Norsa                              Noza
     White Knights                       White Knights
     Planet Maris                        Planet Maris
(Referred to as "Malis"
in the ending to Z2)
    Baron Ricks                         Baron Ryxx (tape box text)

 ________    _______              _         ________     ____
|______  |  |_____  |            | |       |________|   |____|
      / /         | |  _  _   _  |  \       ________    ______   _______
     /  \         | | |_||_| / / |   \     |________|  |____  | |_______|
    / /\ \   _____| |   ____/ /  | |\ \     ________       / /
   /_/  \_\ |_______|  |_____/   |_| \/    |________|     /_/

        | Nippon no anime wa ichi-ban desu!  Otaku rule!    |
        |     Hey, man, I _like_ Robotech.  So sue me.      |
        | Sukotto Mira/Scott Miller (ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu) |

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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Fist of the North Star out
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 06:22:51 GMT



Well, Streamline's Fist of the North Star was spotted on shelves, a bit 
early, but no report to whether Castle of Cagliostro is out yet (the horror
of horrors, well, at least I'll have grade a- material for music video making80

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: I Need an Outlanders OAV Plot Synopsis; Also Question about Dark
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:53:35 GMT


Last year, I purchased the english OUTLANDERS VOL. 1 and 2 from 
a local comics store, and fell in love with them.  I ordered the 
OUTLANDERS OAV, thinking that it would follow roughly the same plot
(or at least close enough that I could see what was going on).  
Unfortunately, it didn't, and I have NO IDEA what is going on.  I
would really love to know, though, so I'm asking any of you who have
a synopsis (or, wonder of wonders, a script) if you can send it to me
through email, at CHM173S@VMA.SMSU.EDU.
Also, does anybody know when VOL 3 will be out?  I can hardly wait
to see what happens next...


Please reply via email, okay?  Thanks.

---Chris Meadows
From: kchang@orion.oac.uci.edu (K_Shibuya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Another Patlabor Question
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:31:28 GMT
Organization: Cal-Animage Epsilon

In article <BtIxDu.GsL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming) writes:
>tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>
>>In article <3130223@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Okamoto) writes:
>>>kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (John A. Kilpatrick) wonders:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm for me if the voice actress who does the voice for
>>>> Shinobu Nagumo (Patlabor) is the same one who does the voice for
>>>> Sylia Stngray  (Bubblegum Crisis)?
>>>
>>>Yes, they are the same seiyuu, Sakakibara Yoshiko.
>
>>Funny thing is that some of Patlabor LD covers list her name as
>>Sakakibara RYOKO while other covers use YOSHIKO. Does anybody care
>>to comment on this? 
>
>
>	Japanese are pretty flakey when it comes to name kanji.  For instance,
>	my last teacher's name was Yoshiko, but the kanji she used should've
>	been pronounced "mi" (kun-reading "utsukushii").  Even _she_ admitted
>	that her name was weird -- which is why she always wrote it in
>	hiragana...  Go figure.
>
>					Dave Fleming
>					daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>

=>OK...this is a good question. If you're learning Japanese and want to go to 
  graduate school learning it. I think you should pick the topic of Japanese
  names since the pronounciation for names is the MOST complicated thing in
  the Japanese culture today. (Even Japanese admit that names for them are 
  hard). Reason being, each kanji has an on and a kun yomi reading to it
  currently. But long ago, what they had now for each kanji is almost like 
  triple the pronounciation factor (because of their literature too). The
  common groups are normal, but the combo's are the weird ones. Most names
  are pronounced using the kunyomi. Some use on, but that's some. When one
  is in on, the other is 99% on as well. Same goes for kun. And from long ago,
  the massive different pronounciation is due to the different ways that
  Japanese have been testing with kanji and their kunyomi to go with it.
  So, names use old system of naming. It usually uses the most common kun/on
  to pronounce the kanji. But there are exceptions which drive every Japanese
  crazy since one is not quite sure if that's the way to pronounce it or 
  another since the combo is quite extensive. So, don't worry about the names.
  It's just a BIG problem that I hope some Japanese language graduate will
  supply us with an answer to solve the riddle behind it.


KC
kchang@orion.oac.uci.edu