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From: aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Power Ratings after week 4
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:49:03 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <16872C065.TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu>, TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann) writes:
> We have been tweaking the formula every day (Jon is an Eagles fan and
> insists that an additional weight be given to defence, while I am a
> Bills man. Offence is everything.)...
>
> Tom Steegmann
> SQUISH THE FISH


A typical Bills fan.  Defense wins championships.

-- no sig necessary --
       Aza

Let's see, 0-3.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Quaterbacks:Steve Young the best in the league
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:42:57 GMT

In article <90932@netnews.upenn.edu> mckernan@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robert L Mckernan) writes:



>       YOU ARE DREAMING MY FRIEND, IF YOU THINK YOUNG IS A BETTER
>PASSER OR RUNNER THAN RANDALL. JUST COMPARE THE STATS. THE ONLY KNOCK
>AGAINST RANDALL, AND THIS IS A BIG, ONE, IS THAT HE CAN NOT WIN THE
>BIG GAME ( i.e. PLAYOFF GAME). BUT STEVE YOUNG HAS NEVER WON ANYTHING 
>EITHER.  

>       IF A GAME IS ON THE LINE THE ONE QB I WANT (AND I DON'T CARE
>WHAT KIND OF GAME HE IS HAVING) WOULD BE JOHN ELWAY.

>                               ROB


Yeah, Elway's proven many times over he can win the BIG game. ;-)


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Miami-Buffalo-San Fran
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 16:33:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct4.222233.20424@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>As usual the Bills cut their own throats.... they did it last year
>with New England and before that with Tampa Bay .....
>Unfortunately Miami has a cake schedule and could go 13-3...

Miami and Buffalo have very similar schedules...

>
>But for now Miami has a slight lead.... meaning both teams have won 4
>games but Miami holds the first tiebreaker and doesn't have a loss.

Actually, pretty huge lead.  Buffalo not only has to hope for a Miami loss,
they have to hope for 2 losses, or that they are the one that gives them
one.


But, Buffalos next three opponents have a combined record of 0-11, at least
they did at game day yesterday...

>
>It looks like the Super Bowl this year will be a repeat of the 
>last two: NFC East vs. AFC East .... where are the other divisions???
>
>
>--
>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)
>
>A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
>while others are doing.


-- 
David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Finally...Jackson's outta here!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:54:40 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <1992Sep29.161643.25332@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>>The Dolphins don't need him,
>>they have more than enough talent at TE and in the receiving corps in
>>general. 
>
>No, I don't see how you can say that.

Well, actually, I didn't say that -  I typed it!! (hee,hee,hee!)  ;^)

>Ferrell Edmunds is inconsistent and in his 4th-5th year.  He's not a
>top notch TE.  (Yes, I know he was in the pro bowl a couple of times
>-- shows you how bad the position is all over the league.)  Greg Baty
>is a special teams player and a blocker.

I think that when Edmunds is healthy, he's very good - granted, he's
no Bavarro, but he seems to be playing as well right now as he ever
has.

Baty is a competent backup.

>As for receivers, it's still Duper and Clayton, and Clayton is
>injured.  Freddie Banks is making big catches, which is good, but
>neither he nor Robert Clark have stepped up in Clayton's absence.  And
>why do you think Miami drafted Randal Hill last year?  Because they're
>short on young receiving talent.

But then they traded Hill away real quick - because they didn't really
need him.

Are you deliberately ignoring Tony Martin? Because I think he's been
doing just fine on the other side and is finally starting to realize
his potential.  And I don't really think that Clayton's presence would
have made any difference to any of the games that they've played so
far.  

>What self-centered antics?  

I have to admit to not knowing what the hell I was talking about here. ;-)
I was just taking an Eagles' fan's word that Jackson was a problem
child.

>For that matter, Don Shula seems to handle quite well all the
>fiery temperaments and personalities on his team.

Oh, I agree absolutely!  But sometimes he handles them by firing them.
And then the trade would have been a waste.

>Even Tim McKyer was a net gain, all things considered.

Yes, I agree with this, too.  But I don't really think that Keith
Jackson will be, in the long run, a gain. I still think that the
'Phins have enough receiving talent and that the money would have been
better spent on someone else.

But it's just my opinion and Don hasn't called yet to ask me what I
think about Jackson, so I guess he'll be in Aqua and Orange on Sunday
- but who are they going to let go to put him on the roster????

>			"Where am I?  Who won?  I did what?  You mean
>			we scored?  Yes!"  -- Dan Marino, after the
>			game in Seattle.

This is great 8-)       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
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From: oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley)
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Question
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:08:50 GMT

In article <56320@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.123440.6562@dg-rtp.dg.com> zayas@satchmo.rtp.dg.com (Mike Zayas) writes:
>>In article <5613@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> What was Tampa Bay's initial losing streak when they came into the league,
>>|> and what was the first team that they managed to beat?
>>|> 
>>
>>They lost their entire inaugural season (0-14), and the first 12 games of
>>their 2nd season. That makes their debut a 26 game losing streak before they
>>beat the St. Louis Cards, and followed that with a win over the Saints.
>>
>
>I'm pretty sure you got that in reverse. They beat the Saints and then the
>Cardinals if I remember correctly.
>
>It was awhile ago, but I'm fairly certain the Cards were the second victim
>and not the first.
>
>
>Russ Smith


You are correct Russ, the Saints were the first victims in New Orleans,
and then the Bucs beat the Cards at home.  I rememered the fans tearing
down the goalposts as if they had won the Superbowl.


DonO

--
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: NINERS WIN!!! YESSS!
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 05:11:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.033340.17802@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM
(John P. Gloria) writes:
|>-- 
|>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
|>  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
|>   your likes."  -   Jawaharlal Nehru
      
    ( Much Junk Deleted)                                                

   Hey Gloria get off your soapbox before you FALL on your Inflated
   geek head.    O.K.  some facts on my part.  I think the niners have
   a good team.   Hopefully, someday the Cowboys (feel free to inject
   whatever substitute name for them) will advance to the niners level
   of consistent wining.   Maybe, the teams will meet in the playoffs in
   the near future.   Another fact is that you appear to be way off base
   on what I do for a living.   I happen to be C. Haley's agent.  He told
   me to get him the hell out of S.F.  so he would not have to here about
   some faggot puta jota name Juan Gloria who is still the number one  
   Forty-Whiner Fan.   Juan face  the facts man/woman
   you whine too much...............................

   P.S. Last  response on my part to this  stupid subject.
          No mas eh Geek...................Chill    ;) ;)
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: 49ers vs. who?
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 00:33:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.213819.19563@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
rex@cs.washington.edu (Rex Jakobovits) writes:
|>can someone supply me with this info:
|>	who are the 49ers playing sunday?
|>
|>much obliged,
|>
|>  --rex
|>
|>-- 
|>	Rex Jakobovits (rex@cs.washington.edu)
|>	Dept. of Computer Science
|>	University of Washington
           
    I am sure Mr. Forty-whiner (J.Gloria) will help you out soon.
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: PSA (Public Satire Anouncement)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:44:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <BvI4tH.DJE@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079m8ta@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.095840.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes...
>>> For Dolli-phans, Life is a swirling eddy of dispair and then they die.
>>> Bye for now!
>> 
>>    For Chips fans: Your Universe is a tiny bubble outside the realm
>>of reality. By the way, what color is the sky in your world? Do people
>>still use the sears catalog for toilet paper up there? Are you all using
>>your chips for your fire place or are you smoking them in your pipe? Hey,
>>were your parents related BEFORE they got married? Just kidding.
>> 
>> 
>>                        -doug THE dolfan-
> 
> 
> 	Oh come now.  Did I accidentally walk into alt.flame.useless?
> 
> 	Sheez....let's talk football here, folks, not toilet paper.
> 
> Jonny B.
> 
> (I wouldn't have posted this if I'd have seen some smileys...'Just kidding'
>  doesn't count.  (: )


                Oh, lighten up. Life is too short.

                             -doug THE dolfan-
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From: WEBER@JEDI.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Kevin Weber)
Subject: Re: Bears loss
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: 78-30
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 22:47:43 GMT

Funny, isn't it?  The Bears are averaging more points per game than I can
ever remember, even in MacMahon's days.  And yet everyone's bitching about
the offense. The Bears have always one with D, and if they want to win now,
they better get some.

kevin


> 
> I may be one of the few fans of Da' Bears to not be overly disappointed
> by their 21-20 loss to the Vikings in the Humpty-Dumpty dome. There
> are certain teams/places these days where I think the Bears are just
> not able to win at (Detroit would be another among many). So while
> I suffered watching a 20 - 0 lead with 11:00 in the 4th vanish,
> I was not shocked. The Bears' defense all year has not been able to
> stop anyone when it mattered. Look at this game, NY Giants, and the Saints'
> games as prime examples. Even in the Atlanta victory it was more a matter
> of the offense keeping the defense off the field in winning that game.
> (By the way, I don;t "blame" Harbaugh's one mistake in this one. However,
> the coaches and the offensive line better look at the tape from the
> last 2:00 minutes closely. - And don't tell me that a lack of timeouts
> was the main factor. The offensive line couldn't keep the defense away from
> Harbaugh in that last 02:00 and while the draw seemed like a good idea, 
> it fell flat.)
> 
> Interesting to hear what Coach Ditka said in the post game interviews:
> "I will not let one guy make a mistake that ruins the rest of the team"
> (referring to the interception). I saw an interview with Harbaugh later
> and he did not seem that up-tight about it. 
> 
> I like Vince Tobin a lot but it's his defense that is letting the Bears
> down this year. Not Greg Landry (someone I wish would move on!!) 
> and his offense. 
> 
> Robert
From: buckley@cs.tulane.edu (James Buckley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Niners Beat Aints, Refs
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:19:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-15367]: amor

<biased garbage deleted>

Remember, the 49ers have to play the Saints one more time this year.
So I wouldn't get all "high and mighty" just yet ...

BTW, it was a well played football game for both side (in case someone
really cares about the game itself! :-)  See ya in SF! 

- Jim
From: sala8864@hgc.edu (gustavo salas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:40:34 GMT
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center

In article <1992Sep30.145910.14296@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>
>Well, so far other than the 49ers, they have played nothing but patsy teams.
>They have to face the Dolphins twice, which might be tough in Joe Robbie.

True. It will be tough at Miami especially that Jackson guy playing
with Dan(I hate him. He is too good). But I still believe the Bills
have slight edge over the Fishes.....

			- Bills addict. 
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:19:48 GMT

In article <BvnGAw.M7M@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.235238.10019@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes...
>>Why don't you be serious! If the Bills would have won, all
>>you Bill fans would have been boasting, woofing nation
>>wide. Give the credit where credit is due. True,it was
>>only one game and not the SB. Please remember YOUR OWN
>>advice next time the Bills have a run going again.
>>Ed and I thank you for your support.
>
>John, get a clue. When have you ever known me to be a woofer?
>
>Please don't compare me to a bunch of freshman dweebs like that
>one guy, Chet Zeshonski. :)
>
>If we would have won, I would have said, "We beat the Dolphins *again*."
>
>
>Doug
>
>                                  |                              Doug Evans
>                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
>                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu

Hey Doug, please accept my apologies. I made the erraneous
conclusion that ALL BILL fans were more or less the same. NOT!
I seemed to have detected some whimering in disguise from you,
and I probably jumped on you too fast. The "freshman dweebs" as
you referred to, are the ones I should direct my comments at.
I don't mind facts, etc., and some rational discussion, such as
yours, but the other pretenders can take a hike.
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succedd.  -   Mark Twain
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:48:50 -0400 
From: Richard Paul Smolen <rs84+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: **Re: Niners Beat Aints, Refs
	<z5_p5vj.mzimmers@netcom.com>

from mzimmer@netcom.com (Michael Zimmer)

>Calibrated to offend, and successful at that...

Why try to offend people?  What's the point?
Yeah, my team kicked your team's ass.
Yeah, my team really got pummeled by yours.
Yeah, the refs made bad calls (as they will every week forever)

But intentionally insulting another team's fans is alot of bullshit.
Especially when you hardly have a grasp of the game of pro football (as
evidenced by your ridiculous posts)

Some tips:

    You do not say a team played well "except" ....
    You do not question apparently bad play calls without considering
alternatives.  Example:  you said:

>...  And WHY were the Niners
>(nine of them) up on the line of scrimmage when the Aints were 3rd and
>10 on the Niners 11?!  What a brain-dead call!  You've got to know
>they're gonna heave it -- I'd have at least four DBs sitting on the goal
>line.

So IF the 9ers rushed 3 or 4 and the rest of the players were DBs and
the Saints completed the pass ANYWAY, you would criticize the 9ers for
playing a "prevent" defense and not being aggressive enough.

    Did you ever stop to think why the "bad calls" seemed magnified in
importance?  No, not because, in your eyes, they seemed to penalize the
9ers more.  
    Because the teams were so evenly matched that the slightest thing
could cause one team to lose.

    One last thing:  Do you have ANY idea how early in the season we are?  
    BOOM  catastrophy  Young goes down Bono goes down 9ers go 6-10
    players get traded
    players get injured
    close victories
    heart-breaking losses
    
    We have a ways to go.

    And then everyone starts 0-0 in the playoffs.

Watch football for a while.  Turn down the volume on the TV, and listen
to your local radio broadcasters who are lots more familiar with your
team.

When the announcers say a flag is down ... do you already know who the
penalty is on?  10% of the time?  30% of the time?  Not enough.

Watch alot of football.  Learn to recognize defensive coverages from the
few small glimpses you get to see on TV.  Learn to differentiate between
a LB blitz, a corner blitz, and a safety blitz (and combinations
thereof).  Learn to recognize blocking patterns in the offense, both on
runs and passes.

And don't insult people.

Rich.

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From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: Re: Let the HYPE begin
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:40:27 GMT

In article <25679@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day) writes:
>In rec.sport.football.pro, SFRELIAS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>The match up between the BILLS and the dolphins this sunday should be the
>>game to watch.
>
>  Maybe to you, a die hard Bills fan. To non-Bills fans, the game to
>watch this coming week will be the Monday night game between the Eagles
>and Cowboys. There you have 2 strong contenders to represent the NFC
>in the Super Bowl. In [the] Buffalo [game] we have 1 strong contender 
>and one up and coming team.
>

I would think the Bills fans would be upset by you calling them and
"up and coming" team, since they have already been in two superbowls
with their current personnel.

... of course you MUST have been calling the Dolphans a strong contender.

:-) :-) :-)  <-- note the smileys you wild North-Eastern folks.

p.s. - My vote for game of the week is Chiefs at Denver!!! Go CHIEFS!!!

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Thad Crews                         (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
              "Crime would not pay if the government ran it!" 
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikings on Monday Night
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:02:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20781
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Could any Viking fan tell me whether the Vikes are scheduled
to play on Monday night football this season and if so
when.

Also, could anyone post or e-mail me the Vikes' 92-Season
schedule.

Thanx
S.H
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: CAN HE GO ALL WAY!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
                          ###
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   # #   #       #        ###
    #    #####    ####     #
    #    #            #
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:24:53 GMT

KELLY throws his 3rd INT; Oliver intercepts in the endzone
Oliver runs out and cuts down the left side, look at him GO, CAN
HEEE GO...ALL  THE    WAYYYY....YES, 103 yards TD.

Miami   31	  	 Buffalo  10            

Indianapolis  7		 Tampa Bay  14
Chicago  12		Minnesota    0 
Green Bay	10	 Atlanta   17        
New Orleans	 3	 Detroit  7     
NY Giants		LA Raiders     
Washington	 Phoenix       
Kansas City		Denver       
Seattle		San Diego        
New England		 NY Jets      
Dallas			 Philadelphia      
LA Rams		 San Francisco    


-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
   your likes."  -   Jawaharlal Nehru
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Cardinals question
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:57:27 GMT

 	Does anyone in the valley of the sun know the status of Rosenbach?  How long
do they expect him out?  It is a shame he is hurt again, he looked so good this
preseason.  Also, will Johnny Johnson get any PT soon?  Or do they think Ivy
Lee is just better?

Bill Perry
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: GET READY FOR A LOSS DOLPHANS!
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 19:12:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.095840.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>
>    For Chips fans: Your Universe is a tiny bubble outside the realm
>of reality. By the way, what color is the sky in your world? Do people
>still use the sears catalog for toilet paper up there? Are you all using
>your chips for your fire place or are you smoking them in your pipe? Hey,
>were your parents related BEFORE they got married? Just kidding.
>
>
>                        -doug THE dolfan-

   To doug the DOLL-FAN;

    Loiusville.edu.......now that's an oxymoron!            
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: scottrs@sab49.larc.nasa.gov (Scott R. Smith)
Subject: Football database
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:26:42 GMT

Keywords: 

Someone made mention of a football database available via FTP.  I would appreciate it if someone
would send me some information on how to access that data base.  Thank you in advance.

Scott R. Smith
scottrs@sab46.larc.nasa.gov
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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES WILL GO 16-0 IF ANYONE DOES
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:07:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Sep30.220751.3345
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Albany

In article <1992Sep30.191227.11916@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) writes:
>

Beat Dallas once? OK
Beat Dallas twice? doubtful
Beat Washington twice? Possibly
Beat San Fran? Good luck
Beat themselves? DEFINATELY

Eagles go 12-4
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