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From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in London (UK)
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:26:27 GMT
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1993Jan22.094029.3004@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
>The cover of "Melody Maker" shows Henry Rollins, apparently straining over a
>particularly solid dump live onstage.  The man is covered in bad tattoos and
>is wearing shorts.  He is American.
>
>The cover of NME shows him out of Faith No More (hey, "I'm Easy"...great
>song....Not) biting a cigarette.  He appears to be wearing an Adidas
>tracksuit.  He is biting a cigarette.  He is American.
>
>Now, that's a fair-ish cross section of the American alternative scene.  Both
>these men are intellectual amoebas.  They are American you see.  And to be a
>successful American the prerequisite is that either you are a deranged
>psychotic or you have a low IQ.
>
>America is failed Europe.

   Wow.  You're wrong, of course, but it's certainly interesting to read
your stupidly ethnocentric rants...

   There are some stupid people in America, this is true.  Henry Rollins
is not one of them...although if you know nothing about him more than what
you see on the cover of MM, I can see why you'd think so.  I'm not a big
fan myself, but he's *not* stupid.

   Well, just remember, twit: If it wasn't for America, you'd be printing
your little rants on a mechanical press and nailing them to the church door.
Thanks to Americans, you can send them to every civilized country in the world
within a few hours.  You're welcome.

   Mixed blessing, eh? :-)
   Andrew
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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: BIG BLACK
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:40:59 GMT

In article <SVEIN.14.0@benoni.nbr.no> SVEIN@benoni.nbr.no (Svein Opdahl) writes:
>In article <93021.121108U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:11:08 CST
>>From: <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu>
>>Subject: Re: BIG BLACK
>>I agree that you should check out Albini's early stuff.  LUNGS is some
>>of his best music.  Dead Billy, Live in a Hole, etc.  I just picked up a
>>great album last night produced by Albini (he performs on various
>>tracks) of a group called PIGFACE.  The album is titled GUB.  Anyone
>>else have this one?
>>
>>Joel
>
>PIGFACE consist of people from groups like Ministry, Revolting cocks,PIL etc.
>and it is not a group in itself. It is just a concept, and the people who 
>participate are just individuals whol like to play together.
>They have released three albums: GUB, Welcome to Mexico.....Asshole (a live-
>album), and recently an album called FOOK. FOOK is also produced by
>Albini. I don't know if he has anything to do with welcome to Mexico?!
>
"Fook" was not produced by Albini, "Gub" was. "Fook" was produced by Martin
Atkins. Albini was not involved directly with "Asshole". 
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From: 900082m@axe.acadiau.ca (KATHLEEN MCLEAN)
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:54:05 GMT

In article <C1C0Gs.ABK@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man) writes:

>Prior to this cassette, they released at least 2 others "Buck Naked" (just  
>Steve & Ed) and "Barenaked Lunch" (Andy Creegan added, possibly Jim too) on a  
>much smaller scale; mainly to friends, etc.

	Three or four years ago Ed and Steve toured across Canada as Corky 
and the Juice Pigs, doing the acoustic music/comedy thing, too.

 >> ... Get into these guys people, they're awesome!!!!!!

>Quite true!!  But they're far better live than on Gordon.  IMHO, Gordon was  
>produced very badly;  it lacks the spirit, humour, and lightheartedness that  
>they've always been known for.  Despite being a long time fan, I still refuse  
>to buy it 'cause its far too drippy (with a few exceptions) -- more like  
>material suitable for a AOR mush station.

	Gordon wears thin after about the third listening.  BNL wear kind of 
thin after the third or fourth show.  Maybe it's just  because I'm Canadian, 
but I'm getting really sick of them.  Moxy Fruvous, now THERE'S a band I'm 
not sick of yet.  Maybe in another month though.
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From: jamess@Ingres.COM (James Stanley)
Subject: Re: sub society
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Date: 23 Jan 93 01:12:12 GMT

In article <21JAN93.24544703.0083@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, H5FK000 <H5FK@UNB.CA>         writes...
>  im not only looking for ramona, i am involved in a life quest for
>a recording from a band called sub-society.  i'm not sure what lable
>they are on or anything but i would really like some info on how i
>might hook up with a copy.  delaney
>

The Sub Society I knew (for there may be more than one) played in San Diego for
many years (198? - 1992).  They put out two 7"s that I know of--the first
was called "Iceman"--which I have--and which they released themselves. The
second was released by Vinyl Communications (Chula Vista, CA) and I do not 
have it. The singer of the former Sub Society--"Stimey"--is a friend of mine
and now plays in a band called Inch....Hope this is info you want....
						
						JimS.
						jamess@ingres.com
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From: skydive@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: What's Become of Green & Scritti Politti?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:38:23 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan27.172504.19876@husc3.harvard.edu>, spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes:
>>
>>
If indeed Scritti Politti did a single with Shabba's Rank, then in all honesty
who really gives a shit what happened to them? Shabba has the musical talent of
my ass. He's a worthless bum and anyone that records with him is sick and
obviously desperate for a buck. If the Chili Peppers (the kings of rock n roll)
were to cut a record with Hammer, I'd take all their stuff and chuck it out my
window. Let's all let S.P. fade quietly into non-existence and crawl back unde
their rock. Fuck 'em! (insert middle finger salute here)

skydive@ac.dal.ca
From: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: DEPECHE MODE ALBUM
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Ontario, Canada 416-283-0114
Reply-To: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 

Greetings,

        I am looking for some info on Depeche Mode's upcoming album, ie
Title, release date, etc... If anyone has any info feel free to post it
here or E-Mail me at john.walter@bville.gts.org

        Thanks...
                john
            
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From: milne@pi7.lbl.gov (Brent Milne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS / Yo La Tengo
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:50:34 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.24

In article <C1FxoL.728@news2.cis.umn.edu>, olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	Where's Yo La Tengo ? 
|> 

Only the recipients of two or more votes are listed.  Yo La Tengo received
only one vote (albeit for first place) so they didn't make the list.  Had
I included single vote-getters, the size of the list would have doubled...

-Brent

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From: phadrus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Neil A Evans)
Subject: Re: Tori does Nirvana
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 02:29:44 GMT

In article <1jvi6t$skd@agate.berkeley.edu> robg@fossil.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Guralnick) writes:
>I think you can find it on her new albulm.  I would give you the name of that
>albulm, but I have conveniently forgotten... As for justice... hmm.>
>
>-- 
>Robert P. Guralnick			     |"James, all I want are some
>Museum of Paleontology Systems Administrator |horses, a nice stream with some
>Berkeley, CA			             |fishies and a cold place to die"
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The album is _Little Earthquakes_ but it is not on the album.  It is on the Crucify EP

          Neil
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From: jlitchfi@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Black Flag Questions
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:25:40 GMT

In article <106552@netnews.upenn.edu> sdm@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen Morrison) writes:
>Thanks for posting the discogrpahy. I have most of the stuff, anyway. Do the SST compilations have songs that aren't on the Black Flag recordings? 
>Also, on my copy of _Everything Went Black_, it doesn't mention Keith Morris
>at all, it just gives him credit for co writing "Wasted". I have seen him mentioned on the singles, though. It has Johnny "Bob" Goldstein listed as the singer in the early years. 

Keith Morris went by Johnny Bob in those days. The SST compilations only have
2 songs not on "real" albums, but they are on "The First Four Years".

>Have you seen/heard any BF bootlegs. I've seen one in a maagazine a while ago, expensive, tho. Still another question, does BF have any videos other than the Target video "T.V. Party"(Which is quite good, I might say)?

No idea. Never seen any, but I've seen them advertized in zines etc. for
(usually) ridiculous prices for a (undoubtedly) handy cam job.

>And how can I get a hold of Pettibon's zines or art compiltations?

No idea, and would love to know. As a side note, Big Black also used Pettibon
art on their covers. I don't think he's ever credited, but the style is 
unmistakable.

>Oh, BTW, SPOT played bass for BF for about a week before Chuck, and is his full lenght journal available any where?

Ooooh, ya got me there...I forgot about that. :) Again, no idea about the Spot
journal, except for the liner notes to "Everything Went Black". I know he has
produced/engineered a lot of other bands over the years...D.R.I. and The
Crucifucks come to mind. The Crucifucks first album (the one Spot worked on) is
a killer...awesome, twisted mid-80's hardcore. 

>Thanks for any help.

Well, I wasn't that much help, but you're welcome anyways.
-- 
Welcome to Canada, asshole. The land of gripe and loonie...

jon litchfield
jlitchfi@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
From: bungle@cellar.org (GasTruck Guy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Wanna Help?
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:31:32 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

> Hello indie rock/pop fans:
> 
> I am desperately trying to finish my doctoral dissertation on 
> indie rock/pop subcultures (its unwieldy title is "Marginal
> Formations and the Production of Culture:  The Case of College
> Music."  Ugh.)  I've interviewed plenty of musicians and 
> 
> So what I'm wondering is, if I posted a questionnaire, would
> any of you be interested in taking the time to respond?
> 

   GasTruck Guy would be happy to take the time to respond.

   GasTruck Guy has spoken.



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From: CJBILL@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (BILL, C J)
Subject: Re: pavement breakup
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:32:08 GMT

Pavement breaking up?  Seems like another of their ploys.  They have lied to
so many different music magazines it is great.  Remember reading somewhere that
they were going to be in Beverly Hills 90210 until one of the members got in
a fight with the two sideburn characters and beat them up.  Another story
about them said that Bobby Nostonavich (a high school tennis great) was run
over in New Jersey by a van driven by the drummer.  In the same article Bobby,
bragged about spending the money made by the band on their European tour on the
horses.  You just have to take everything you read about Pavement with a grain
of salt and just listen to the simple brilliance of their music, they can't
fib there.  Jason
From: bg@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill Whitson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Looking For Underground/Indie Vinyl
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:55:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Hi.

About a month ago I posted to the net about some Sub-Pop vinyl that I was
looking for.  I was so successful that I've decided to do it again.  Most
of what I'm asking for this time is rare enough that I don't have much hope
of getting it but we'll see what turns up.  I will pay or trade for anything
you can find, and I've been fairly successful at finding what people are
looking for.  In some cases here, I know material exists by certain bands
but I don't know what there is so I am just asking for, in general - 
everything :*>.

Here's the list (in no specific order):

Big Chief:	Drive it Off LP		on Get Hip Records
		Get Down and Double Check 7"	on Get Hip Records

Blood Circus:	2-Way Street 7"		on Sub Pop Records

L7:		7" Domestic Version	on Sub Pop Records

Skin Yard:	I have all the LP's and Sup Pop 7", Stranger 7", and
		1000 Smiling Knuckles 10".  I am looking for any other
		singles.

Tad:		God's Balls LP		on Sub Pop Records
		Daisy 7"		on Sub Pop Records
		Tad/Pussy Galore 7"	on Sub Pop Records

Tar:		I have the Teetering 7" - is there anything else?

Fall-Outs:	I have the Fall-Outs LP, Don't Want the Sun 7", and Jealous
		Kind 7".  I know there are earlier singles...

The Fluid:	Punch n' Judy LP	on Glitterhouse Records

Zipgun:		I have Together Dumb 7" and Put me Away 7".  I know there
		are others and they're probably on eMpTy Records.

Mudhoney:	Touch Me I'm Sick 7" (only a colored version)	on Sub Pop
		You Got It 7"	on Sub Pop Records

Love Battery:	Between the Eyes 7"	on Sub Pop Records

Seaweed:	Inside 7"	Label unknown
		Just a Smirk 7"		Label unknown

H-Hour:		anything

64 Spiders:	anything

My Eye:		7" on C/Z Records

Rancid Vat:	I have Justice LP, Cluster Bombs EP 7", It's My Fate 7", and
		Sympathy For The Record Industry 7".  I am looking for the
		Burger Belsen LP and anything else that might be out there.

Pond:		Young Splendor 7"	Label Unknown

Marble Orchard:	I have Something Happens 7" and I am looking for anything else.

Distorted Pony:	Any 7" you might happen upon.

Green River:	Green River 7"		on Homestead Maybe?

Helmet:		Any Helmet 7" (I think I saw one once...)

Compilations:	Sub Pop 100 on CD
		Deep Six Compilation	on C/Z (I'm looking for 2 copies)
		Puget Power Act 1 7"	on Regal Select
		Fluid/Nirvana split 7"	on Sub Pop Records
		
		also any comps. that have the above bands in them I would be
		interested to hear about.

Thanks to anyone who spent the time to read this.

Bill Whitson
bg@carson.u.washington.edu
bg@stein.u.washington.edu

(BTW -- DON'T BUY ANY OF THESE WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST!!!)


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From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Anybody else seen the "IRS Vintage Years" releases (Stan Ridgway)?
X-Xxdate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:48:48 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:46:04 GMT


I was looking through a stack of used CDs at a record store near me and found
Stan Ridgway's "The Big Heat".  No biggy there.  But what was interesting is
that the cover stated "IRS Vintage Years" and the CD included 6 new bonus
tracks (not including "Rio Greyhound").  One of the tracks had a copyright date
of 1993.  So, is this a new series of releases from IRS to take advantage of
their back catalog?  What else is coming out?
--
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com
(Note: This message is from me, not my employer.  React accordingly.)

Always remember -  David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
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From: pnhrab00@nx16.mik.uky.edu (Peter N. Hrabak)
Subject: Re: Death to the Pixies
Keywords: dada
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:24:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.090041.1@acad3.alaska.edu>  
fsdff@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> Alas, alas, it seems to be true. The Pixies have officially split.  
Kennedy told
> me two nights ago, when I was already not having a winner day. All  
the hopes
> and dreams of all the little pixies in the world cannot seem to  
hold the big
> Pixies together. I think I'm going to go cry, or cut myself open,  
or pray for
> reunion, or something.  All condolences can be sent to  
FSDFF@acad3.alaska.edu.
> 
> "I'm deeply in love..."
> 
> 			Dave La Soul


Does anyone else share the feeling that the Pixies, now dead, as  
their catchphrase prophesized, were the last real performers of Dada  
art?  At least the last ones who were readily accessible?

I'm truly saddened by this, but at least we can look forward to the  
any-day-now release of The Breeders and Black Francis's solo project,  
etc.

-Stinky Pete

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From: drewb@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com (Drew Birtwistle)
Subject: Re: Slowdive/Boo Radleys lyrics
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:49:42 GMT
Distribution: alt
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Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In <C186Jz.G5v@rice.edu> hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng) writes:

>Now, a few weeks ago, I saw the Japanese version of the Boo Radleys'
>_Everything's Alright Forever_ (didn't buy it, though), and I'm curious as
>whether there's a lyric book included with that CD.  The reason I'm asking

I remember reading an interview with the Cocteau Twins where they were discussing 
Japanese album packaging.  Apparently, all albums released in Japan MUST be 
accompanied by lyrics.  So, chances are, the Japanese Boo Radleys' CD has a
lyric sheet.  

Be careful, though.  The Cocteau's commented on how bad the translation was --
the lyrics were transcribed by listening to the music.  The resulting 
translation transformed the Cocteau's fairly innocuous lyrics into phrases such
as "We will rock you".

Hope this helps.




Drew Birtwistle	
drewb@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com
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From: Nils.Pharo@bibhs.no (Nils Pharo)
Subject: Pere Ubu
Organization: bibhs.no
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:12:31 GMT

I heard they had a new album out, any information please! They are in my 
opinion one of the GREAT American bands
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Minor Threat
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:53:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <93026.142040JDB129@psuvm.psu.edu> <JDB129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I noticed alot of posting about "straight edge" and Minor threat and was wonder
>ing what ever happened to Minor Threat.  I have their complete discography whic
>h is excellent, did they release anything else after that?


    well, Ian went on to Fugazi, of course, and Jeff went to a bunch of
bands including the Highback Chairs...I think he co-owns Dischord with
Ian...don't know what happened to the others...

Mike
mag@wam.umd.edu
From: miller@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Phil Miller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:33:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Spaceman 3 info
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative

In alt.music.alternative, RPatel@massey.ac.nz (R. Patel) writes:

> I've got Spiritualiseds Laser Guided Melodies which is pretty cool, very
> mellow but possible over rated after all the hype I've read.

It gets better with age.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pecot@wam.umd.edu (J.M. Pecot)
Subject: Re: Velocity Girl Discography
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:55:44 GMT

In article <2B6487FE.4503@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>
>  "The Pre-Moon Syndrome" called "Blackzilla".
>
>  The comp also have live trax from Unrest, Honeymoon Killers, Reverb
>  Motherfuckers, Chrisbald 96, Butterglove, Julianna Luecking Experience,
>  Beat Happening, and many others.
>
>                                                    K!z!K
>
    What label is this on? / Is it still available? (Probably Not :-( )
    Thanx for any replies

>


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From: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Carl JF Ekstrom)
Subject: Re: Alice in Chains
Reply-To: etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Burgess Hill, England
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:19:21 GMT

In article DyK@news.cso.uiuc.edu, eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
> How is the Alice in Chains album?  I've heard 'Would' and 'Dirt' and I like them
> both - would the CD be a good buy?
> 
> Ed.
> 


It requires some time and effort but it's well worth it. I had to listen to it 6 or 7
times before I got in to it. Now I love it!!
"Would" is not very represenative for the album since it's very catchy, a-la a 
pop-tune, and the rest of the songs has to grow on you.
Make the effort.
It's worth it.

Cheers / Carl 

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