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From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Country Songs you Love to Hate
Keywords: Unaussprechlichen
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:27:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

>How about "You Never Call Me By my Name"  By David Alan Coe?  I've heard
>his greatest hits cd, and aside from that song, I was deeply offended by
>how bad the rest were!  I think these are the types that you mean....
>If not, you can banish me to rec.music.alternative.music.rules.forever.not

This song is sort of "classic" in Texas Aggie territory. It's sung every
Thursday night at the Dixie Chicken (the local bar) and the Hall of Fame
(the local country dance club).  

Incidentally, I once bought this CD. Imagine my surprise when I stuck in the
Cd player, and heard opera instead! :-|  Yep, either someone mislabeled
the CD, or was having a grand old time at RCA (record company?) being
mischevious....

HMMM, I wonder how Pavoratti (sp?) would sound singing "you never even call me
by my name"

Needless to say, I returned the CD.

Pat Fitzpatrick
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ellis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (June Ellis)
Subject: Re: Country?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:01:09 GMT

In <1992Oct16.185910.25095@tamsun.tamu.edu> ctp1575@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christoph 
Purifoy) writes:
>Seriously, what is country to you?

What's country?  I propose a three word definition:  Grand Ole Opry.  The Opry 
is the keeper of the country flame and has been for 66 years now, surviving all
the various encroachments on country music that have come and gone over the 
years.  If you have ever listened to the Opry on Friday and Saturday nights 
from WSM in Nashville, what you hear is the embodiment of country. While some 
of today's stars are Opry members, they only appear occasionally; the bulk of 
the show is by a distinguished cast of veterans, including Hall of Famers Roy 
Acuff, Bill Monroe, Hank Snow, Grandpa Jones and Little Jimmy Dickens.  No 
matter what they may do on their albums or in their stage shows, when the 
newer members (including, yes, Garth Brooks, who was made a member in 1990 
before his career really skyrocketed) play the Opry, they sing THE most 
traditional songs in their repertoire in deference and reverence to the Opry 
tradition.  The Solemn Old Judge Hay used to say, "Keep it close to the 
ground, boys."  And they still do.  Trends come and go, but it's the Opry that 
continues to define "what's country."
From: lc1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lori Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Dennis Robbins
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:24:42 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone know what's up with him lately?  Does anybody besides me
think he's one of the more interesting (sounding and looking) "new"
performers?  What's his story -- he's obviously old enough to have
either been struggling for ages or doing something else with his life.

Lori Cole
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: sxjwg@orca.alaska.edu
Subject: FARTHEST NORTH COUNTRY WESTERN DANCE FESTIVAL
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:08:49 GMT

							Last update: 24 SEP 92

                                    The

         THIRD ANNUAL FARTHEST NORTH COUNTRY WESTERN DANCE FESTIVAL
                   
                               will be held

                           March 5, 6, & 7, 1993
       
                                  at the
       
                   Hall of the Fraternal Order of Eagles
                                 
                                located at

                             200 First Avenue
                             Fairbanks, Alaska

There will be open dancing Friday and Saturday as well as various times between
classes throughout the festival.  Dance classes will be taught for beginners,
intermediate, and advanced.  Emphasis will be on INTERMEDIATE.

There will be a dance competition for Division IV (beginners) and Division III
(intermediate).  This competition will be governed by independent rules.  There
will be preliminaries and finals.  There will be no fee for entering the
contest if a weekend pass is purchased.  Trophies awarded will be
Alaskan Goldpans. 

There will be prizes in addition to the trophies.

FIRST PLACE in each division will win a eight hour boat excursion
on Stan Stephens Charters (Valdez, Alaska) to Columbia Glacier, Prince William
Sound, and a Alaskan cookout on Growler Island. 

Door prizes and raffles will also be conducted during the festival.

This will be three days of non-stop country craziness!!!

For more information write: 	FNCWDF
				P.O. Box 82683
				Fairbanks, Alaska
						99708-2683

Come dance with us under the Northern Lights!

Or call 907-479-4282 and leave your name, phone number and mailing address and
you will be added to a special mailing list.  SPEAK SLOWLY AND CLEARLY IF YOU
LEAVE THE ABOVE INFORMATION ON THE ANSWERING MACHINE!

This is not a square dancing event.

Questions may also be directed to this bitnet address.

This event is hosted by the FAIRBANKS COUNTRY KICKERS,
a non-profit organization.

ALL INFORMATION IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE!

James W. (Jim) Grimes
Event Director
-- 

********************************************************************************
    UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA - FAIRBANKS, UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA COMPUTER NETWORK
                   James W. (Jim) Grimes, SXJWG@ORCA.ALASKA.EDU
THIRD ANNUAL FARTHEST NORTH COUNTRY WESTERN DANCE FESTIVAL-MARCH 5, 6 & 7, 1993
  Call (907) 479-4282 or write FNCWDF, PO Box 82683, Fairbanks, AK 99708-2683
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Morals??? "Jesus and Mama Always Loved Me"?
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:56:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.135105.14676@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater) writes:
>Heard this on the radio this morning and couldn't believe it was
>a country and western song.  Normally, country songs are rather
>conservative in morals, but I had to object in stunned silence when
>I heard the first verse:
>"made a wish upon a star,
>That I could get a brand-new car,
>Got tired of waiting,
>so I stole one".
>
>What's the meaning of this?  Is this meant to be glorifying
>car theft?  Flame me if you want, but isn't this
>going a little bit TOO far????

Did you listen to the rest of the song, or did you turn it off after just
the first verse? If you listen to the whole song there is no way you
can interpret it to be advocating car theft. The remainder of the song
expresses remorse and acknowledgments about "taking the wrong road".
Interpretation : "I stole a car, but that was wrong". Where does the
glorification come in? Even the line "so I stole one" oozes with
remorse.

It may be obvious, but no one else mentioned it, so I will. The chorus,
of course, is a direct reference to the children's song "Jesus loves
me, this I know, For the Bible tells me so".

I get a very positive message from the song myself.

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King)
Subject: Re: No Hats in Knoxville
Keywords: Unaussprechlichen
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars to send 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:11:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.175142.24142@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> 
djohna@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (John Ackerman 3568) writes re:
Travis Tritt:
>
>No. He's not pure country. He's not just Rock-n-Roll. But in this
>business I think it's lead, follow, or get out of the way.
>He's just rough enough around the edges to make him All-American!
>
First time I heard "This one's Gonna Hurt You," I didn't recognize it
as Travis Tritt.  All I remember thinkin' was, "Somebody's been doing
some homework!" I think the man's come a powerfully long way; personally
I thought his early material was kind of weak and in need of direction.
Now that he's found said direction, I say, "Go, cat, go!!!" 
May B.R. Cyrus take a year or two off and come back sounding half as good!

+--Geff King--Librarian by Day/Bassist by Night----geffy@digex.com--+
|     "Nobody told me. That don't mean nobody told anybody;         |
|      that just means nobody told me."   --Freddy Fender           |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Pure Country
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:53:52 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY


 
George was on The Tonight Show last night, performed 2 songs off new Pure
Country album, talked with Jay, and showed a clip from the movie.  In the
clip he didn't have the beard; however on the CD he sports it.  He was
beardless for the show.
 
He looks like he has lost some weight.
 
The clip was OK.  The movie reviewer (forget his name) on Crook and Chase
absolutely loved the movie.
 
mike james (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
From: susan@drseus.jsc.nasa.gov (susan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Country Songs you Love to Hate
Keywords: Unaussprechlichen
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:12:03 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company

>
>How about "You Never Call Me By my Name"  By David Alan Coe?  I've heard
>his greatest hits cd, and aside from that song, I was deeply offended by
>how bad the rest were!  I think these are the types that you mean....
>If not, you can banish me to rec.music.alternative.music.rules.forever.not
>
>
Call me a redneck, but I have to disagree with this one.  I bought one of
his greatest hits album (actually all I've been able to find of his are
greatest hits albums which probably means that more people agree with you
than me) for "You Never Even Called Me by My Name" and ended up liking quite
a few songs on the album including "The Ride", "Would You Lay with Me in a 
Field of Stone", "Face to Face", and "To Prove My Love to You".  I even
went out and bought another (greatest hits) album of his.  I admit he also
has a lot of really, really bad songs too.
From: map@svl.cdc.com (Mark Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: name this song...
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:32:44 GMT
Reply-To: map@svl.cdc.com
Organization: Control Data Corporation, Silicon Valley Operations

In <56534@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi) writes:

>Who sings "That kind of girl"?
>I know she must be very popular, but i just started listeing to country
>music and still have to figure out who's who.
>Also that song showcases excellent guitar work: is the guitar played by the
>same lady who sings?
>thanks

Patty Loveless sings this song--I doubt that she plays the guitar on
it, however.

Mark Peters
--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Re: Country Songs you Love to Hate
Keywords: Unaussprechlichen
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:22:28 GMT


Also "Not Counting You" off Garps first album.  One of
the best country songs I've ever heard!!

				JT
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Subject: CW LYRICS QUIZ #4
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:47:59 GMT


Marshall,

I apologize for sending this to the net, but all your personal mail is being
bounced back.  Can you repost the Lyrics Quiz so that I can respond via the
'reply' feature rather than through private e-mail?

TH
From: lawrence@ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Dolly on CMA Awards
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:39:57 GMT
Reply-To: lawrence@olympus.ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

Also, if you want absolute, undeniable proof that Dolly was lip-synching,
(if you taped it) look at her when she's first coming out of the audience.
The music starts, the first line of the lyrics come out and Dolly
hasn't even opened her mouth yet! She missed the entire first line of 
the song.
I LOVE Dolly Parton (physically as well as musically) and I was really
disappointed to see her sell out by lip-synching like that. But such is
the way of show business: Give 'em a show, no matter what.

					Saint.
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ellis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (June Ellis)
Subject: Re: The Reverend Garth Brooks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:39:08 GMT

In <1992Oct9.165449.13112@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby 
. Hughes) writes:

>Hey!  If you like it, OK. Nobody said you can't like it, but nobody said I
>HAD to like it, either. I think Garth has done some good stuff, just don't
>call this piece of Greenpeace/I Have A Dream pandering 'country-gospel.'
>The Stamps Quartet are spinning in their graves.  And one other thing:
>you can two-step to most rap songs;  that doesn't make them country.  :)

>TH

Maybe you could call it country "gospel-like".  I agree with Toby.  Popular 
secular sentiments do not constitute gospel, no matter how well the song may be
done.  If you want to hear some authentic country gospel (both in style and 
content) done by a non-gospel country artist, check out Ricky Van Shelton's 
"Don't Overlook Salvation."

June
From: robyn@cs.arizona.edu (Robyn Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Morals??? "Jesus and Mama Always Loved Me"?
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:22:25 GMT

>What do readers think of this one???

When I heard the song, I took it to mean that no matter
the singer did that he always knew that he was loved by
Jesus and Mama. Robyn
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Garth's "The Chase" - a yawner
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:57:22 GMT
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I bought "The Chase" expecting pretty-much what I'd heard and liked in
the first two CD's (and to some extent the third one).

I listened to it several times.  "We Shall Be Free", although it has
some nice sentiments, well... to me it isn't country.  "Walking after
Midnight" was nice, but it wasn't Patsy Cline.

And the rest of the CD was just kinda "ho-hum" to me.
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
"Recession: your friend loses his job.  Depression: you lose your job.
Recovery: Bush loses his job" - Bill Davidsen
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re:  Garth hysteria peaked? (was the believers)menu
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:32:36 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

Garth is at the top of the country and pop charts. Let's remember what  
"pop" music means. "Pop" stands for popular. Garth is singing music that  
is popular. Obviously, LOTS of people like Garth no matter what you  
"label" his music.

Just my $.02 worth about "Hot New Country," "Country Rock," "Classic  
Country," or whatever. Like I have said before, just listen to what YOU  
enjoy.

lynda

A music fan.
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Sass Jordan
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:06:37 GMT

Some more on Sass Jordan.  She is Canadian, which might explain some
of the difficulty in finding her albums in the US.  She has a new
album Racine (french for roots).  It is number 18 (and climbing) on
the list put out by Ottawa's AOR radio station.
From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Pure Country
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:35:07 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.

In article <1992Oct13.090249.18992@walter.cray.com> cbetz@radioman.cray.com (Charles Betz 66442) writes:
>
>
>This posting might be slightly out of place here, but....
>
>Does anyone on the net know anything about the movie "PURE COUNTRY"?
>
>I understand that George Strait is to make his acting debut in this
>film.  Does he have a leading role or a minor one?  Also, is the
>film about country music as the name would seem to imply, or not?
>I've heard several cuts from George's soundtrack album, but that is
>about as much as I've heard about this film.  If anyone has any
>info on it, I'd sure like to hear it.  Thanks.
>
>Charlie Betz
>cbetz@romulus.cray.com


Pure Country will star George. I don't know when it will be released, but it was
filmed here in Fort Worth-Dallas during this past spring/summer. I do know that
George is supposed to be sporting a beard in the movie.

He did a lot of free concerts for the extras and crowds during the filming and
it has George "live" in the movie.

It should be a fun movie if you like George!!!


Rgds,
Huett Bishop
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg)
Subject: Re: Pop/Country/Rock/Whatever
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:40:56 GMT

In article <1aq1g6INNhsb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider) writes:
>Rock & roll came from both R&B _and_ country.  That's the _simple_
>explanation.  Yes, Elvis went to Memphis, but he might just as well have
>gone to Nashville; they often play Elvis on country radio stations.
>
>Adam
Elvis wasn't really accepted by "country" until he had
pretty much faded from the rock'n'roll scene and was
appearing in Las Vegas...The rock'n'roll Elvis was mostly
anathema to "country", especially Grand Ol' Opry types.
But your are correct as to the "roots" or antecedents of
rock'n'roll. 

Hap

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina)
Subject: Re: Pop/Country/Rock/Whatever
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:24:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.184334.7689@reed.edu>  writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.135152.10600@samba.oit.unc.edu> dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina) writes:
>>Now how can you not consider people like Alan Jackson, Clint Black,
>>Randy Travis, Emmy Lou Harris country. They are new but they sing
>
>Huh!!?!  Since when is Emmy Lou new?  She's been around FOREVER and a day!
>This isn't at all a flame, this is just complete utter shock!  I'll grant
>the others are new, but not her.  And her old stuff is great.  (Old being
>early 70s.)
>
>>and are heavily influenced by people like George Jones. Hey I am an
>>avid fan of George Jones(the king of country)
>>but when he starts mixing in strings and
>>the Jordanaires I'll take a good Rodney Crowell, Vince Gill,
>>Roseanne Cash, Jann Browne, Marty Stuart, John Anderson or any
>
>I'm not sure here if you were talking old or new?  John Anderson and
>Roseanne Cash have been around for a long time or at least the past decade.
>I'm not real sure about the timing of the others.  
>
>	Johanna (who's in a state of shock...Emmy Lou?  New Country?  *sigh*
>What is the world coming to?)
>;-)  (Not a flame as I said, just amused.)
The original message set George Jones as a reference
to time so I was using that in my response. I to have every
Emmy Lou album made as it was released including the Early
Gram Parsons solos which introduced me to her. I also have
been listening to John Anderson since his first releases.
Sorry for the confusion. It only shows that what some people
may consider hot new country is really old traditional country.

The Hallucinator


Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON)
Subject: NC State Fair Concerts
Originator: mpdixon@c00526-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:19:58 GMT


Got a question that hopefully someone from North Carolina can answer.  Who
are the groups that are appearing at the Fair next week and what are their 
dates of appearance.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mike Dixon                          
mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu
From: slib1660@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth on the CMA show
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:10:51 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

In article <13775@lupine.ncd.com>, slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas) writes:
> In article <BvGuJH.IGn@fc.hp.com>, rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean) writes:
> |> Jimmy Shaw (jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu) wrote:
> |> > In article <5329@balrog.ctron.com> lawrence@olympus.ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence) writes:
> |> > >Am I wrong? He just really seemed upset and not at all interested
> |> > >in winning any awards. I kept hoping to see him pumped up during
> |> > >his performance, but his voice cracked and he started tearing up
> |> > >during the end of that too.
> |> > >
> |> > >					Just something I noticed.
> |> > >					Saint.
> |> > 
> |> > Garth was on Dateline NBC a few weeks ago, and his eyes teared up
> |> > when he told Jane Pauley that he is considering retiring, and
> |> > basically hates the "business" end of the business.
> |
> 	If anyone saw the TNN Crook & Chase the next day, you would of heard Garth explain his emotions at the CMA presentation.  It wasn't from illness, but because he had just realized he was watching George Jones be inducted into the hall of fame.  He also explained his `Parental leave' and what he saw for the future.  He didn't seem to be heading down the retirement road for a good long time.
> 
> 
Do you, or anyone seeing this message, have a video taping of the interview
with Garth Brooks on Dateline with Jane Pauley?  I am willing to pay $5 plus
shipping for a good copy of that show.  He was on the Tonight Show the same
night and while I managed to record that I failed to record Dateline.

Thanks for any response.
Denise
slib1660@selu.edu> 
> 
>> 
> |> This morning Mark McEwen (why was a weatherman there in the first place)
> |> did a piece on the CBS morning show and the report said that Garth was a
> |> bit under the weather and that's why his voice cracked.
> |> 
> |> Also did anyone notice that Mark O'Connor's fiddle wasn't picked up at
> |> all during that song.  Hell they even did a couple of close-ups on him
> |> during the song and you couldn't hear anything.  I wonder if the live
> |> audience missed out on that as well.
> |> 
> |> --
> |> Bruce Rodean                          Hewlett-Packard Company
> |> rodean@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Subject: Re: Dolly on CMA Awards
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 13:06:12 CST

In article <1992Oct5.172800.6798@leland.Stanford.EDU>
irene@leland.Stanford.EDU (Irene M. Dris) writes:
 
>
>In article <5OCT199210223741@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>>Not to sound entirely stupid, but if Dolly wasn't lip-synching, then where
>>was her microphone?
>
>she could have been wearing a cordless mic.
 
     and it was invisible!!!;-)
 
     Seriously, TV and newspaper reports said that Dolly taped her performance
     at the dress rehearsal because she was having throat problems and
     didn't want to chance not having her voice at all the next night.
 
Mike (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)