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From: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU (C Nagappa - behind the scenes)
Subject: Family values, premarital sex, etc.
Reply-To: nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:47:12 GMT

	
	Although the statistics on single parents on the US is 
startlingly high (about 50% black babies and 25% white babies are born to
sinle mothers), it does *not* mean that there is a collapse of family values
and it would be unfair to write-off an entire society because of this.
Most of the Americans I know belong to families which have "strong" values,
regardless of whether a divorce/remarriage has taken place or not. Good family
values, IMHO, means bringing up children to be honest, caring and hard-working.
I know a single mother and she has done a very good job of bringing up her
kid. Most single parenting in the US is caused by the male spouse abdicating
his responsibility as a father, and not due to an external relationship by his
mate.

	You guys think family values in India are so great. What about the
cheap brothels in the big cities of India? Statistics show that most men who
visit these fat prostitutes are *married* men. Rather disgusting, don't you
think?

Chetan Nagappa
From: med016@muvms3.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: To the BITSIANS around
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:32:16 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Dear Bitsians In the midst of all our activities I wish that we should find a
way by which we all come together atleast once in an Year.I would like to get
some suggestions about how we can go about starting an ALUNMI assoc for the
BITSIANS   HARISH MAHALINGAM (Was in PILANI 1986-91)
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India won't allow temple
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:36:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul23.142040.10814@menudo.uh.edu>, nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU writes.
.
>NEW DELHI, India - India's Supreme Court ordered a northern state to stop 
>militant Hindus from constructing a temple within yards of a 16th century 
                                                   ?????
>Muslim mosque.

 O.K ! Let's make a measurement of the allowable distance under the chairmanship
 of the ex-governor of Kashmir Jagmohan, and, decide once for all and end to 
 this ball-game.

 We had it folks ! Let's play hard-ball against hard-ball, right ????

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: supreet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Supreet Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H-1 TO GREEN CARD.
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:15:04 GMT
Reply-To: supreet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Supreet Singh)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: supreet@huey.cc.utexas.edu


Hi netters !
Can anybody please explain me the steps reqd. to get the green card for an h-1 visa holder ? I need to know which farms are reqd. to be filled and the related departments to be contacted. This inquiry is for friend who is on H-1 visa for last 2 years and thus{di{7Mm{n't have labor certiw{fication as is reqd. under new laws.

Thanks in advance.

-Supreet Singh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: Shape of the "Siva Lingam"
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:10:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.094253.12532@phillip.edu.au> t9214309@phillip.edu.au writes:
>Dear Netters:
>I am interested to know how the "Siva Lingam" got its peculiar shape.
>Is there any particular reason why it is like that? Can anyone out
>there give me background information on this? My email address is
>		t9214309@phillip.edu.au
>If there is a lot of interest, I will prepare a concise report and post it on
>the net.
>Thanking you in advance
>Nagesh

The reason I am posting this on the net is to find out if
anyone has read a book entitled "The Gods of India: Hindu
Polytheism" by Alain Danielou, who has a number of other books
(like translations of Manimekhalai and Shilappadikaram) to 
his credit. The book is certainly interesting at first glance,
and the poster can certainly find his answer in this book or
the other book "While Gods play: Man and the  universe according
to the Shaivite tradition."

That is, assuming the poster's objective was genuine.

Sthan.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Subject: Indian Broker cheats Indians
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:07:21 GMT

The following is a summary of a report appeared in Wall Street
Journal on July24, 1992:

A NY security broker-dealer who allegedly preyed on his
fellow Asian-Indian immigrants pleaded guilty to security
fraud and settled civil fraud charges with SEC.

Deepak Gulati preyed on more than 100 Asian-Indian immigrants to
invest in fradulaent securities sold by DTI finncial and D.Gulati
associates.

He faces up to 5 years in prison.

Krishnan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.canada
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:35:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <0eOu6nO00WBMQ8D1At@andrew.cmu.edu> pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>I'd like to add that Americans have to pay a lot for insurance too.
>Besides, I have heard of instances where indians come here fall sick and
>their sponsor fails to pay for their medical expenses(I don't know how
>trhe sponsor was able to go scot free). Also, I have heard of instances
>where people come on tourist visas and have babies. The U.S should have
>a law against granting citizenships to such babaies.

I am confused.  Do you mean to say that they did that to you 
because you are Indian?

Or do you mean to say that it's all right for them to do that to
anybody else except you because you are Indian?

Or maybe they did that to you because you were an Indian but you
were coming from Canada and thus had already some kind of a medical
coverage?  Otherwise, why are you posting that to soc.culture.canada?

Oh, I guess it now, it's because you were accidentally born in the US
while your mom was changing flight on a tourist visa?

Now, serioulsy, I understand that the US are slowly evolving into a state
of apartheid by mutual consent (the kind like 'it's OK to be
second class citizen, look at those poor third and forth class...'),
and that it's almost becoming normal to look at the situation
in terms  of what it does to the various interest groups, but
please, surely the fact that that guy you were talking about
was Indian had nothing to do with the problem, right?  Writing
your sentence as you did, however, and then, posting this in
soc.culture.canada, makes it ring very offensive.  As if it 
mattered *only because* the guy was Indian.  (I am sure it's not
what you meant.  But that's the way it comes through.)

Next, the story about babies.  What the hell does it have to do
with the remainder of the posting?  And why do you care?  Does it
concern you?  If you don't like the US policies about babies,
you are entirely free to vote with your feet and (if you are
rich enough :-() apply for a Canadian visa.  

LB
From: murgesh@sgi.com (Murgesh Navar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: So star charts favored perot eh..?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:13:39 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

>
>>In article <1992Jul17.174219.26948@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>>>
>>>Dear netters,
>>>
>>>Somedays back a netter posted that Ross Perot would win since the 
>>>star charts favored him. If someone remembers who this netter is,
>>>please let me have his e-mail address. All I want to do is to flame
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>him to ashes and if I meet him in person, then beat him to a pulp. 
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	 But you don't know that Perot is not going to win yet. I could
well give you umpteen scenarios that might make him president. :-)

In article <1992Jul17.230202.2679@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>>
>Then there is ayurveda, the medicine system developed in India a long time
>ago... I find very few western educated Indians ready to believe in this.
>Again, from my experience, this is the best form of medicine for many
>deceases.. esp, 
^^^^^^^^^	

	Hmnn....!!!. And, I always thought that once deceased there wasn't
much hope. Stupid, arrogant, western educated me !.

						-murgesh
From: kumbhani@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (dhaneesh kumbhani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: REQUEST : Travel Agents
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:00:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I remember reading a while back that someone was compiling a list of
travel agents.  Unfortunately, since I am an infrequent reader of sci,
I missed any follow-ups on that.

I am looking for :
1) trustworthy travel agents who have reasonable USA-India-USA rates
in the following metropolitan areas: 1) Philadelphia and 2) New York
City.
2) advice on what things to be wary of, what scams to avoid etc.

This will be the first time I will be purchasing a ticket from
Philadelphia (or possibly, NY) and am a little nervous.  Hence, I
would really appreciate some help.

Please reply by email because I am not a regular reader of sci and
moreover, since the information is area-specific it cannot be of much
interest to most readers.

Thanks.

(reply to kumbhani@eniac.seas.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: Testing how the poster can be untraceable!
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:35:53 GMT

someone@cive.egr.uh.edu writes on soc.culture.indian:

) No flames, please. Is it possible now to find the poster?

Let me analyse the header...

)Path: ennews!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!usenet

Even though you may change the rest of the header, you CANNOT fool the
news server with the above line unless the news server is an open one
in which case be assured that news.admin will get immediate notice.

ennews and asuvax are our news servers, UTexas is one of the trusted
servers, swrinde, hp and zaphod don't allow any posting privs to
outside hosts which leaves menudo.uh.edu as the only possibility. I
hope you get the idea. 

It is easy to manipulate headers but you are only spoiling legitimate
use of such manipulations (for FAQs etc) and if you play around, the
system admins will have to put an extra check where FAQ posters stands to
lose.

Sridhar.
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The olympics and Bob costas
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:48:12 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN) writes:
: 
:     here is what 
:     the tailpiece of a report by AP said on the match between
:     Ramesh Krishnan and Jim Courier.......
:     It is reproduced verbatim as it appeared in the Atlanta
:     Journal and Constitution.
:     "Courier said the heat didn't bother him as much as Krishnan
:     did.The junkballer from India,ranked No.200,puts less pace on his 
:     shots than anyone else on the ATP Tour,Courier said.
:     'We call him the surgeon on the Tour ,Courier said.He slices and 
:     dices and that's what he was doing today.

Atleast we should be happy that Courier and other top players
recognize the worth of Krishnan, though he is ranked No.200.
If Krishnan had a bit of luck yesterday, he would have beaten
Courier.

---Sreehari.
: 
:     gopa
:     regards
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.asian.american
From: c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA)
Subject: Re: Family values and the West.
Keywords: Marriage, Family, Industrial, West.
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:38:47 GMT

Yes, your comment on family values is true.  

The Family and Family values are indeed declining, esp. in the west.  In
fact, many movements are NOT CONDUCIVE to strong families.  

We need to strengthen our families strongly.

Personally, it becomes hard when a family-oriented person in a family
oriented culture goes to the West, and finds that the same values in
the family are not there.  There SEEMS to be more emphasis on the individual
rather than the group, society, or family.

This may be food for flames, but who knows...


Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:26243 alt.culture.us.asian-indian:311 soc.culture.asian.american:7225
From: bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Platy aLoid)
Subject: Re: 13-year-old earns degree
Reply-To: bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:26:47 GMT

>In article <seOu=t_00WBMQ8D3FH@andrew.cmu.edu>, 
>(Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>I'd be more impressed if the guy had sex at the age of 7.


	Mr. Devineni,

	We're talking here about a child prodigy and not about 
	how early a guy can lose his innocence and unspoilt
	view of the world.

	Your remark is a sure sign of your decadence in taste,
	timing, and judgement. I think I make my point and don't
	want to wax profane further.

	Good day!

	- aL

	PS: Don't bother flaming me...I don't have the time or
	    the inclination to carry on an argument with people
	    who have "SEX" on their minds all the time.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:51:13 GMT

In article <26JUL199217032359@rosie.uh.edu> eleea48@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas, Thomas) writes:

>It was a great shock to me to hear the NBC commentator describe India
>during the opening ceremonies as a "poor nation, without synthetic playing
>surfaces".

Fine, we *do* have (at last count, after reading innumerable messages)
*seven* (gasp!) artificial turf surfaces.  They may even (gulp!) have
synthetic tracks (advanced 70s technology, as in the Nehru Stadium in
Delhi).

Question is, how often do our athletes practice or play on these
surfaces?  What matters is not the fact that India has 7 (gasp!)
astroturf surfaces, but how often the players get to practice on them
(and also on other things like diet, rewards and motivation).

India *is* poor and underdeveloped, so let's not dispute that. You may
have grown up in a city with modern TVs and appliances, and may be
ashamed of being associated with poverty, but most Indian athletes
have grown up bone-poor and illiterate, and are routinely treated like
peons by the Indian sports federations.

I'll not expound here on Indian attitudes towards athletes (suffice it
to say that sports and athletics are associated with "lower classes").

The bottom line is that we always have enough money to send officials
and their families on shopping jaunts abroad, but never enough to even
give athletes a decent living at home, let alone allow them to
practice their sports without having to worry about their next meal or
paycheck.

Example One: India recently hosted the Women's World Weightlifting
championships in Delhi. The IWF officers were put up in the Taj
Intercontinental, along with the foreign contingents. The Indian
athletes (including at least one world champion) were put up on rope
beds in a gym in the stadium, and were fed meager meals of rice and
dal (only).  Need I say more?  This is *typical* of all sports in
India except cricket and *maybe* hockey and soccer.

Example Two: For the 1986 Asian Games (in Seoul), India sent 160
officials and 150-odd sportspeople.

We get what we deserve. As long as Indians equate sports with coolie
labor, we will get coolie-like performances from athletes.

'Nuff said,
--
Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com
Silicon Graphics Inc.			Phone:	+1-415-390-2072
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Marxists in West Bengal - Practice. # 2.
Keywords: CPI/ CPI(M)/ CPI(M-L).
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:47:03 GMT

In article <25JUL199219220167@vax2.concordia.ca> debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
>
>Being an unfortunate subject of the Marxist ruled West Bengal, I recount here  
>my views about Communism as it is practised and not preached. IMHO, in part 1,
>I have made the comment that Reign of Terror was rationalized by Josef Stalin.
>However, Soviet Communism is dead and so its territories in the Eastern Europe.
[...]

1] Deb, just relax when you write these things.
   As long as you stick to narratives, your articles are genuinely
   interesting.
   But your fanatic opposition to communists sometimes begins to
   resemble what you claim to be very poorly constructed theory.
   
2] There used to be a guy in calcutta who stood up on a chair,
   at the entrance to the howrah bridge, claiming that God
   had to be a woman, because why else would men have nipples ?
   You see whats wrong with such reasoning of course.

3] Stay Cool.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
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Subject: Roommate search in San Francisco (woman roommate wanted)
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Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:37:50 GMT
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From: srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Yesterday, when it rained. -- [ Nostalgia ] -- Icarus.
Summary: In appreciation ....
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:16:39 GMT



I am posting on this medium after a long time and i am glad that it is in 
response to a very fine article (to say the least) by Paul.  Unfortunately
I have not been blessed with the descriptive powers that Paul possesses or
else I could have gone on endlessly in praise of his posting. I found his
description of Guruvayoor truly fascinating.  He had hinted in his posting that
he was not a hindu (playing it safe here!) and this factor made it all the
more interesting. Unfortunately my memories of Guruvayoor are restricted
to the fact that my mom thought it necessary to wake me up in the wee hours
of the morning and force me to have a cold shower. 

I am not one to write long articles, so Paul, pray continue posting such 
articles. I personally was interested in your narrative powers than what
you were describing. 

To the feminists, I appreciate stuff which r not necessarily sexist! (I had
to vindicate myself)

-srikanth raghavan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Telugu Cinimalu(NJ)
From: subhas@spss.com (Subhas Darisipudi)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:17:12 GMT
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From: amg0427@hertz.njit.edu (alivelu manga gollapudi)
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To: subhas@spss.com
Status: O

    Hello!!
   Cinima Janalaku Oka Vartha! Venandi

        Here  is a great  news  for telugu people  living in New jersey.
        Do you want to watch a Telugu movie? (Of course not in a video).
        Ok! Stay tuned....

        From sunday August  2nd we are  planning  to screen  the
        following movies on a BBIGG screen. Do you want to come?
        These movies are:

        1. CHANTI
           Starring: Venkatesh, Meena, Sujata, Brahmanandam etc.

        2. KSHANAM KSHANAM
           Starring: venkatesh, Sridevi, Brahmanandam etc.

        3. SITARAMAYYAGARI MANAVARALU
           Starring: Akkineni Nageswara Rao, Murali Mohan, Meena etc.

        4. ROWDI ALLUDU
           Starring: Chiranjeevi etc.

        5. ALLARI MOGUDU
           Starring: Mohan Babu, Meena, Ramya Krishna, Brahmanandam etc.

        6. PELLI NEEKU SHOBHANAM NAAKU
           Starring: Rajendra Prasad etc.

        All these movies will be screened at Brunswick square mall
        theater from August 2nd on every next  sunday from 10 A.M.
        On August 2nd movie 'Chanti' will be screened.

        We hope  lot of people  will join in this event to remember
        our oldy days. Bye the way the ticket is $5 per movie.

        And finally directions:

        (1) From Garden State Parkway:
            Take exit 129 to Turnpike south. Follow (2).
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            Take exit 9 to Route 18 south. Follow (4).
        (3) From Route one:
            Take exit to Route 18 south. Follow (4).
        (4) From Route 18 south:
            Continue on Route 18 until you see Brunswick Square Mall
            on your  right. You can see a big Macys in this mall. As
            you go into mall you can see the theater and hear lot of
            telugu sounds.

        If you have any other questions please call

        Mr. Srinivas Gollapudi        @201-955-2689   or
        Mr. Gopala Krishna Darisipudi @908-238-0247

        Thanx,
        Srinivas Gollapudi.

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