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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Hammil?!
From: mdfung@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Monbill Fung)
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:11:40 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

>In article <1992Aug18.154704.754@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:
>>OK, I stand (or rather sit) corrected. Mark Hamil was in the *PLAY* version
>>of Amadeus, and not the movie. My mistake (I was referring to an old
>>magazine article on that). As for how exciting and my defination on how
>>exciting, well, to each his own....8-/
>>
>>Dave
>
>   I saw Hamil in a film called "Mutotronics" which was released on video
>in the UK around three months ago.  He was sporting a rain coat and
>mustache (sp).  The film was about people who could transform in to monsters
>and a super powerful suit of armour.  It was ... well, it passed the time.
>
>Darren.

Actually the original movie was based on the japanese anime "Guyver"
Hamill plays a supporting role in this B (ok maybe they didn't intend it
to be but that's what it was) movie =)

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From: is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13)
Subject: Re: Who's Tougher
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:42:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.222716.17329@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>
>In a previous article, darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy) says:
>
>>
>>My friend and I were just wondering who would in a fight, Darth Vader
>>or Boba Fett.  Also, why do you think that Darth/Boba would win?
>
>Vader would just "strangle" him and that would be the end of it.
>
>-- 

Vader would use the force and make mincemeat out of Fett. We've already
seen how effective blasters were on Vader!



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From: mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr)
Subject: Re: Vader's motivation at Bespin
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:05:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.165315.1111@cs.hw.ac.uk> adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) writes:

[stuff about Vader stopping Fett deleted]

>
>Vader wanted his prisoners alive.  He made that clear enough on several
>occasions, my favourite being on his Star Destroyer when he looked pointedly
>(or at least, as pointedly as possible in a mask :-) at Fett and said "No
>disintegrations!"
>
>I also wonder if, at the same time as he was affecting Luke and starting to
>turn Luke to evil, perhaps the encounter was also starting to turn him to
>good?  After all, Vader calmly executed Admiral Ozzel for not surprising
>the Rebels on Hoth, as if you could surprise someone with decent sensors
>that could scan the whole system.  He executed Captain Needa for losing
>the Falcon.  Admiral Piett fully expected to get it in the neck for much
>the same crime; yet he survived.
>

That's a pretty cool idea, I guess.  I'd never thought about it-- I'll have
to run home and watch ESB again. =)

>> ...							besides, if 
>>they were typical stormtroopers they probably could shoot until they were
>>out of ammo and not hit anything.
>
>O.K., one more time.  Stormtroopers can shoot straight.  They did well
>enough on Leia's ship in ANH, and they did well enough against the
>Rebels on Hoth in TESB.  They even managed to fry some Ewoks.  What
>they can't do is hit the main heroes.
>

Come on, I was just making a little joke-- sorry that I left out the
smiley.  In fact, I have defended the stormtroopers' apparent lack of 
accuracy myself on several occasions, so I completely agree with you.

>My theory is that they aren't allowed to hit anyone paid more than them.
>They can shoot ordinary troops, but they can't shoot the stars of the films.
>The one who hit Leia would have been in for a remote throttling except for
>the fact that Vader and the Emperor were otherwise occupied.  Since Luke
>had been in all three films, his actor had been paid more than the Emperor's,
>which is why Vader threw the Emperor down the pit - the Emperor was not
>allowed to kill Luke, as he was about to do.  And Chewbacca's actor was
>undoubtedly paid more than Boba Fett's, having appeared in two films, which
>is why Vader wouldn't let Fett shoot Chewie.
>:-)

Now this theory is _awesome_!  I love it!  But...didn't the Emperor sort of
kill Vader?  Oh well, not really-- I think the theory should stand up. =)



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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars Movies?
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:04:47 GMT

i keep reading about a 20 year differenece. arent luke and leia older
than 20? so if that is the gap between films, i assume a.skywalker is
already vader or very close to becoming him.

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From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Bubba Fett
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:28:09 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan


	Okay, maybe you folks can clear something up for me...

	Fett is an expressionless armored character with almost no lines and 
a single good guess that allowed him to follow the Falcon in ESB.  How did such
a non-character get such a large following?  Is there something I missed?  Just
wondering...


It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Falcon, X-Wings, etc. sets
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:23:27 GMT

mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell) writes:
: 	The AHN Falcon was not fully built....  it was only a partial
: 	section (which is why we always see it from basically the
: 	same angle).

It looks complete from the bird's eye views in ANH -- which parts weren't
completed?

How much of the interior was done, anyway? I got the source book, and that
diagram is *PHONEY*! The pincers were for loading cargo, and 
it has the cargo bay in the back!

Do any other schematics of the Falcon's insides exist?

Scott
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Hiding a Skywalker on Tatooine.
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:36:24 GMT
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle Ks. Jim)) says:

>Reading the Zahn novels brought up another question about Kenobi
>hiding on Tatoonie; how did he keep himself hidden from the Emperor?
>Yoda had that Dark Side Tree-thing cancelling out his presence so
>would that mean that somewhere near Kenobi's house on Tatoonie there's
>something similar?  Or was Kenobi just not a powerful enough presence
>in the Force to be detected at long ranges (after all, Vader didn't
>sense him until they got on the Death Star)?  Or was Tatoonie just
>farther from the center of the galaxy than Dagobah was?

Remember what Luke said about Tatooine -- "If there's a bright center
to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farthest from."

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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Mark Hamill
Keywords: where is he now?
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:02:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I recall Mark Hamill being involved in the stage version of Amadeus, not the 
film.  Also, he made a few other movies besides the Star Wars trilogy.
Corvette Summer with Annie Potts, and The Big Red One with Lee Marvin both 
come to mind.
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Hiding a Skywalker on Tatooine.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:38:51 GMT

tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:


>In a previous article, jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan) says:

>>Okay, step aside everybody, I just saw Star Wars  again so of course *I*
>>have all the answers:  (multiple annoying smileys for the humor impaired)
>>
>>I think Zahn's interpretation of the Force is pretty much doo-doo.  Animals
>>that can create a bubble in the Force?  So, I would also assume that the
>>bit about Yoda balancing himself off against a great evil to hide himself
>>from the Force is also dubious.  If Darth Vader were so inclined, of COURSE
>>he would know that Ben and Luke were on Tatooine, as Anakin Skywalker, he 
>>LIVED on Tatooine with his brother Owen.  I'm getting this from the dialogue
>>in Star Wars.  Ben and Luke talked about Owen as if he were Luke's uncle and
>>Anakin's brother.  (Ben talking about Owen (paraphrased): "He thought your
>>father should stay here and not get involved in any war.")  I don't think
>>Darth Vader was all that interested in killing Luke OR Ben OR Yoda (if he
>>even know Yoda existed) until he started to see that Luke was strong in

>OK, for the umteenth time, OWEN IS BEN KENOBI'S BROTHER!!!  (Where's the
>FAQ when you need it?)

This is NOT clear from the movies.  In ANH, in fact, this is shown not
to be the case.  There is much evidence for this.  Owen and Beru
talking, for one thing, and also, Ben didn't care too much when
Owen died...

>Athough it was apparently never stated explicitly in the movie, it was
>stated specifically in the novelization of ROTJ.

The novelization contains other errors as well.

keith
From: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: movie posters available
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:10:01 GMT
Reply-To: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

ok...this mite not be the correct group, if it is..great. If it isn't..
deal with it.

here in beautiful gainesville florida exists a company that specializes
in movie posters. I recently requested from them a catalog of their
wares, and there were a nummber of SW, ESB, ROJ posters. 

These are apparently original and most are rolled, not folded. They claim 
to have original Revenge of the Jedi 1 sheets available. But I haven't 
called them back yet.

I'll double check on what they can actually get their hands on and re post
the list and their address/phone #. 

I don't work for these people, but they come on campus every semester with
some of their posters and they seem to have at least part of a clue as to 
what they're doing.


If this isn't the correct place to do this then let me know where to 
post.


Randy...


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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Where are you classic Star Wars?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:12:45 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Aug 1992 14:27:39 -0700, joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) said:

joshuali> Does anyone have any info on the release of Classic Star
joshuali> Wars #1?  I picked up the latest comics releases sheet at my
joshuali> local store and Classic #2 is supposed to come out in very
joshuali> early Oct. Where's #1?  So help me God it better not have
joshuali> been delayed...

Wow. A comic thats late. What a surprise :)
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                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Animation??, maybe
Date: 15 Aug 1992 09:10:04 -0500
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  "HAVE to be Japanese" 

  You do not know the American animators. The Japanese do have an
interesting style but it is not what I would call the best. Just very good
for that style.
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From: blanche@diana.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: Re: Carrie Fisher
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 00:05:28 GMT
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From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: Police And Conventions
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:43:12 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Aug14.185948.122227@zeus.calpoly.edu>, kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu
(Kevin Wang aka The Scarecrow) writes:

>Of course, there was always the incident of "The Hotel Rules From Hell"
>last year at Timecon (?).

Please do give details!  Should be interesting to compare to NaziCon! 
(CapriCon '88)...

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From: jenkins@local.host
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: StarCon '92 in Denver
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: jenkins@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
Organization: Organization, City, State, etc.


I am inquiring for a friend....

I'm looking for people who might want to share crash space at StarCon '92
in Denver this September, preferably at the Holiday Inn itself.

Please mail me at the *following* E-mail address:


Lisa                         Jenkins@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
1603 Thirteenth Street South
Moorhead, Minnesota 56560-3734

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This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system.
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From: wex@spdcc.com (Alan Wexelblat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.cons
Subject: People going to Magicon from Boston area please read
Summary: I need to return on the 7th
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:13:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Aug12.181339.8876
Followup-To: wex@spdcc.com
Organization: Electric Blue Lighting

I currently am scheduled to return to the Boston area from Magicon on
Tuesday the 8th, on a flight which leaves at 11AM from Orlando.  Due to
business in the area, I would like to return the day before (Monday the
7th).

If you can swap return legs of your airline ticket with mine, please contact
me.

--Alan Wexelblat, Reality Hacker and Cyberspace Bard
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From: broitman@buchmf.bu.edu (Jeff Broitman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: WorldCon
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:40:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

Watch out for the coleman...we don' twant to dump any of this
lovely back-bacon.

The French Canadians will be there..watch for us...
From: sschend@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve E Schendel)
Subject: Re: Walkie-Talkies (was  Re: Police And Conventions)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:04:06 GMT

Actually, finding simplex frequency at Magiccon wouldn't be a bad idea, say 
147.43?
From: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: hams in orlando
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:03:08 EST
Reply-To: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

wpns@miki.pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes:

WS> Any other hams going to be there?  Should we pick a simplex frequency
WS> (natl' simplex on 2-M?).  What's a good local repeater?

I got a note a week ago from Avery R. Davis, WB4RTP. He has arranged
with the owner of the KN4PZ repeater (444.700 positive offset, 103.5Hz
CTCSS tone) for accounts for all of the hams at MagiCon. The system
does have a voice mail system, autopatch, and a number of other
goodies. Coverage in the International Blvd. area, and at Disney World
is supposed to be excellent, but it poor at the airport. The big catch
(as far as I am concerned) is that it is a 440 machine, and I'm only
mobile on 2 metres.

If anyone is interested I will post the primary user commands for
the KN3PZ system.

Avery Davis has the following notes on Orlando area repeaters:

147.120 - KC4CB Orlando, PL:ZA(94.8Hz) has excellent coverage, and
                is not very busy.

146.760 - KD4JL Orlando, open access, closed autopatch, has
                excellent coverage, but is very busy.

147.300 + WA4ABQ Disney World, open access.

147.285 + KBUSW Altamonte Springs (may have PL?)

The suggestions that Avery Davis makes are:
- If you have a 440 HT BRING IT!
- Start off on the national calling frequencies (146.520MHz and
  446.000MHz) until we know what frequencies are relatively
  clear in and around Orlando.
- He may have 1 - 2 spare HTs available for loan.

See you there!, VE3ZAA
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From: kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang aka The Scarecrow)
Subject: Re: Police And Conventions
Organization: The Outland Riders
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:59:48 GMT

In rec.arts.sf.fandom logs of people write:
> [ security with radios ]

I used to carry my scanner around alot at Baycon, Timecon, Sillicon, in
the Bay area.  At these (what I consider mid-large) cons, 4-5k people max,
the security detail here (F.L.A.R.E.) is somewhat "officious" with their
radios, but most, if not all of them are ex-con goers.  They all understand
what it is to party, have fun, and whatnot.  They generally only do light
patrols, crowd control for Masquerade, tracking down guests and staffers,
peacebonding weapons, and that's really about it.  parties on the party
floor are first handled by FLARE, and in general, loud rooms (non-party
floor) are "reported" in by adjoining rooms, and usu the hotel security
takes care of them.

Of course, there was always the incident of "The Hotel Rules From Hell"
last year at Timecon (?).

   - Kevin Wang 
...And now, for your local station identification, on the hour, every hour...
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