HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gandalf@wpi.WPI.EDU (James Michael Sambrook)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: none
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:56:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: A clean up...

who are you?
I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?
So I'm Captain Jean-Luc Piccard
"Lt. Worf take this 'Bart Simpson' to the brig"
OK, I'm Riker: "What the hell's going on over there?!"
What the heck, I'm Troi:  "I sense great sarcasm..."
Q: "Hello, Jean-Luc, how'd you like my 'Bart Simpson'?"
Wesley: "Gee, Captain Picard, I just figured out a way to get rid of Q forever..."
Worf: "Growl! Captain, that is not honorable. If Wesley gets to get rid of Q, I
       get to get rid of Wesley!  I asked first - you remember?  Back in the
       first season?"
Troi:  Oh please, Worf.  You couldn't shoot the broad side of a Ferrengi, let
       alone beat up Wesley....
O'Brian: "That does it, I am beaming you all into space and appointing myself
          Captain Miles..."
Geordie:  Enough!  I'm transferring all Warp, Impulse, APR, and life support
          power into the holodeck for my new "Wild Wanda and her Wanton Whips"
          program.  The rest of you can suck cold vacuum.
Barkley: "Hey I helped program that, can I come in too????"
Wesley:  Hey! I programmed Wanda's Whips---you know, just the way you like it?
Troi:  Geordie, your Star Fleet Battles training is showing.   I also sense
       great perversions....
"Oh, boy..."
Troi:  I sense a great mind.  A mind from the past.  Someone who as lived many
       lives, leaping from one to another....I also sense cigar smoke...
"I sense a small explosive that is tuned to detonate the next time Troi says '
I sense...'"  (Cheers are heard from the audience)
Troi:  I sense great stupidity.   

   [We hear squealing sounds of a dying bomb---the bad joke killed it]

Piccard: Computer start self-destruct sequence.  This has gone too far!
Riker: NO the first officer does not concuur, I have taken orders from some
balding shakspearian throwback long enough, I'm taking over; worf set phasers
on kill and terminate the captain. 

"Admiral McCoy": Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a commedian!  I don't know
                 WHAT to say next..."


Just thought you'd all appreciate the clean up job...please, go on from here!
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: lagrangj@unvax.union.edu (i'm a nut)
Subject: Re: stardate
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:13:23 GMT

dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth) writes:

>In <1g8sg1INNh6h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> yxk9@po.CWRU.Edu (Yury Khidekel) writes:
>>	What I've observed is that in the new series, the first number
>>stands for the century (4), the second number for the year since the 
>>ship was launched and the rest, I have yet to figure out. Of all the 
>>explanations, I like this the best. 

>This doesn't really belong here, but...

>The first number is indeed 4 for the twenty-FOURTH century.  The second
>number is the number of the current season of TNG (6).  The remaining
>numbers are made up, and progress throughout the season.
Would they really be made up?  It seems like a little thing that they could do
to offer some sort of puzzle.


-- 
Josh LaGrange                  *                    
lagrangj@unvax.union.edu       *           (cute stuff deleted  
Phone: (518) 370-6908          *
The views that I express are shared by very few responsible people.
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Choi)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Muppets Meets The Enterprise (TNG)
Summary: Request for Story
Keywords: Muppets Jim Henson TNG Story
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:54:42 GMT
Expires: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada


REQUEST
=======

Would whomever has the story "MUPPETS MEETS THE ENTERPRISE" please either
repost the story or email it to be at the following address (if there is
indeed such a story) : hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca . Thanks in advance.

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				Peter Choi
hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (132.206.51.9) or pchoi@nyx.cs.du.edu (130.253.192.68)
McGill University, School of Computer Science, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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From: jfy@cis.ksu.edu (Joseph F. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Archive suggestion
Date: 19 Dec 92 05:51:26 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden) writes:

>Once upon a time, I found an FTP site with a whole slew of Trek parodies. 
>The interesting thing about them is that they were titled "p.###" and
>there was a seperate index file containing titles and summary information.

>I was wondering if something like that could be done with the archives for
>this newsgroup?  THe problem is that the current titles choke all MSDOS
>systems and even some *NIX systems because of titles being truncated when
>the maximum length is reached.

>If things could be renamed with an eight-dot-three format, then they
>should be able to work on any system without extensive renaming exercises
>prior to download.  Then you include an index file that has the actual
>titles, summaries, authors, etc.

>It would be a lot of work to set it up, but I wonder if it wouldn't be
>easier to deal with in the long run.


It definitely would take a lot of work to do; there are about 350+ files
that need to be indexed and I am not sure I really feel up to it at
the moment.  It is on the long range list of things to do, though.
-- 
Joseph Young, Systems Programmer
KSU Department of Computing and Information Sciences
Manhattan, Kansas 66506  FAX: (913) 532-7353  Phone: (913) 532-6350   
Internet: jfy@cis.ksu.edu  UUCP: rutgers!depot!jfy 
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: theodore@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (Theodore Jonathan Casser)
Subject: Request for a friend
Reply-To: theodore@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:53:08 GMT

Could someone send any BarTrek stories to my friend David Mocny?  His  
e-mail address is dmocny@wam.umd.edu.  No, this is not a joke.

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"It's not what you know, it's who you know..."
Let's go Terps!
(301)314-8554   7114 Elkton Hall, College Park, Md 20742
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From: shabby@Athena.MIT.EDU (Chris Shabsin)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Muppets Meets The Enterprise (TNG)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 12:38:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
	<1992Dec14.020900.25450@ncsu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: beeblebrox.mit.edu
In-reply-to: tpgemma@eos.ncsu.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 02:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.020900.25450@ncsu.edu> tpgemma@eos.ncsu.edu (TIMOTHY PETER GEMMA) writes:

   Very interesting.  Humorous, too, though I did see a few
   very out-of-place jokes taken from 1st edition AD&D DMG
   (Get that barbarian another beer and +2 Backscratcher)

And MANY Airplane jokes.  Has anyone ever done an Airplane meets TNG
(Airplane III?) parody?  If not, why not?

-Chris
--
-Chris Shabsin
-shabby@athena.mit.edu
-member, SIPB, PWLCSBHNM, MITMB, VWA, MITCC, PWN, LSI
-"You got the power, you got the might, get ready for battle, beat
	that Black Knight!"
					-Black Knight pinball game...
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: none
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:12:30 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-520]: thor

In article <3904@map.mdavcr.mda.ca> ewm@mdavcr.mda.ca (Eric W. Mitchell) writes:
>
>Please, please, please discontinue this thread.  It does not belong
>here.

Oh, why not! I think it's fun... besides, it deals with ST, and it's
creative, isn't it? :)

Meow...
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From: jfy@cis.ksu.edu (Joseph F. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Where are ftp sites for old stories?
Date: 19 Dec 92 05:46:09 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

tsearson@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Tom Searson) writes:


>  I am trying to create a cheap Christmas gift.  A group of StarTrek
>stories on a floppy.  What are the best ftp sites to search for old 
>stories?


>Tom

Look on ftp.cis.ksu.edu in /pub/alt.startrek.creative.
-- 
Joseph Young, Systems Programmer
KSU Department of Computing and Information Sciences
Manhattan, Kansas 66506  FAX: (913) 532-7353  Phone: (913) 532-6350   
Internet: jfy@cis.ksu.edu  UUCP: rutgers!depot!jfy 
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden)
Subject: Archive suggestion
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:20:25 GMT

Once upon a time, I found an FTP site with a whole slew of Trek parodies. 
The interesting thing about them is that they were titled "p.###" and
there was a seperate index file containing titles and summary information.

I was wondering if something like that could be done with the archives for
this newsgroup?  THe problem is that the current titles choke all MSDOS
systems and even some *NIX systems because of titles being truncated when
the maximum length is reached.

If things could be renamed with an eight-dot-three format, then they
should be able to work on any system without extensive renaming exercises
prior to download.  Then you include an index file that has the actual
titles, summaries, authors, etc.

It would be a lot of work to set it up, but I wonder if it wouldn't be
easier to deal with in the long run.


-----

To the archier:  Please don't take this as a criticism.  The work you do
is wonderful.



-- 
]> I love my country                   + Robert Hayden                     <]
]> But I fear my government.           +                                   <]
]> Blind faith in your leaders, or in  +    rahayden@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu  <]
]> anything, will get you killed.      +    aq650@slc4.INS.CWRU.Edu        <]
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki)
Subject: Re: none
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:21:14 GMT

>>>>>>>	[ Attributions deleted to save space--you know you you are, anyway. ]
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >>>>=> who are you?
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >>>>I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >>>So I'm Captain Jean-Luc Piccard
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >>>"Lt. Worf take this 'Bart Simpson' to the brig"
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >>OK, I'm Riker: "What the hell's going on over there?!"
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> >What the heck, I'm Troi:  "I sense great sarcasm..."
>>>>>>>>> >>|> |> Q: "Hello, Jean-Luc, how'd you like my 'Bart Simpson'?"
>>>>>>>>> >>|> Wesley: "Gee, Captain Picard, I just figured out a way to get rid of Q forever..."
>>>>>>>>> >>Worf: "Growl! Captain, that is not honorable. If Wesley gets to get rid of Q, 
>>>>>>>>> >>I get to get rid of Wesley!  I asked first - you remember? 
>>>>>>>>> >>Back in the first season?"
>>>>>>>>> >Troi:  Oh please, Worf.  You couldn't shoot the broad side of a Ferrengi, let
>>>>>>>>> >alone beat up Wesley....
>>>>>>>>> O'Brian: "That does it, I am beaming you all into space and appointing myself
>>>>>>>>> Captain Miles..."
>>>>>>>>Geordie:  Enough!  I'm transferring all Warp, Impulse, APR,
>>>>>>>>and life support power into the holodeck for my new
>>>>>>>>"Wild Wanda and her Wanton Whips" program.  The rest of
>>>>>>>>you can suck cold vacuum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Barkley: "Hey I helped program that, can I come in too????"
>>>>>>Wesley:  Hey! I programmed Wanda's Whips---you know, just the way you like it?
>>>>> Troi:  Geordie, your Star Fleet Battles training is showing.   I also sense
>>>>> great perversions....
>>>>	"Oh, boy..."
>>>Troi:  I sense a great mind.  A mind from the past.  Someone who as lived
>>>many lives, leaping from one to another....I also sense cigar smoke...
>>>
>>"I sense a small explosive that is tuned to detonate the next time Troi says '
>>I sense...'"  (Cheers are heard from the audience)
>Troi:  I sense great stupidity.   
>
*BOOM*  (More and louder cheers are heard from the audience)


-- 
 * James M. Plutnicki (plutnj@rpi.edu) * "There are no truths, only facts  *
 * Computer Systems Engineering Major  * blurred by opinion."   --Me       *
 * Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    * "Confucius say,'Virginity like    * 
 * OS/2 advocate and user...:)         * balloon one prick all gone'."     *
From: ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason M Ferguson)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Wesley Shows His True Colors
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:36:09 GMT
Reply-To: ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason M Ferguson)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX

>>I was wondering when we'll see an episode with Wesley expressing his 'True
>>Colors'...In other words, shall we say...er...um...coming out of the closet?
>>:&)
>
>     this resembles those eight year olds who feel slighted by
>     their parents and go around the house breaking things -
>     in extreme cases, actuall inflicting harm on themselves -
>     to get attention... huh?  So let's regard this as a
>     cry for help -- and ignore it.

	Agreed. This is about as ludicrous as, say, killing Wesley off
as he tries to land a shuttlecraft in an Enterprise shuttlebay. Course,
I always expected Wesley to grab a phaser one day and go nuts. Ala
U.S. Postal Employee.
	Perhaps that is "Wesley's true color."


[------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[ Jason Ferguson                   |  "No more Mister Nice Guy..."       ]
[ ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu         |                                     ]
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,alt.cascade,alt.fan.matt.welsh
From: mlandaue@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael C Landauer)
Subject: Re: none
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:46:33 GMT

osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska) writes:


>Jeff Brackin <jefb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> writes:

>=> who are you?

>I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?
>--
>The opinions expressed above are my own, and not necessarily those of UNH.

>                               HUG ME!

So I'm Captain Jean-Luc Piccard

"Lt. Worf take this 'Bart Simpson' to the brig"

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: cwynne@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Colin J. Wynne)
Subject: Re: RIKER'S SERVICE NUMBER
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:54:18 GMT
Organization: Washington & Lee University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: 00sgmoses@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
: 
: > I WAS THINKING THAT IN THE EPISODE THAT THEY GAVE HIS NUMBER WHEN THEY 
: > STARTED A SELF DEDESTRUCT SEQUENCE ON THE SHIP....... 

Which time? :)

Seriously, though, do you mean '11001001', the episode with Minuet and the
Binars?

Colin

--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  =====  Colin J. Wynne                     Washington & Lee University  =====
  =====  cwynne@liberty.uc.wlu.edu              Lexington, Virginia      =====
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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Wesley Shows His True Colors
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <shk2!wn@rpi.edu>, petitc@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes...
>I was wondering when we'll see an episode with Wesley expressing his 'True
>Colors'...In other words, shall we say...er...um...coming out of the closet?
>:&)

     this resembles those eight year olds who feel slighted by
     their parents and go around the house breaking things -
     in extreme cases, actuall inflicting harm on themselves -
     to get attention... huh?  So let's regard this as a
     cry for help -- and ignore it.
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki)
Subject: none
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:25:39 GMT

For those of us involved in the humorous thread, I would ask that each of you
do as I have attepted to do and clean up the article each time around.  It
gets hard to read with all of the screen wrapping.  This is NOT a FLAME, I 
enjoy it as much as the rest who contribute to it, it is just a suggestion.

Keep it, it is the most creative thing I have read in awhile.


-- 
 * James M. Plutnicki (plutnj@rpi.edu) * "There are no truths, only facts  *
 * Computer Systems Engineering Major  * blurred by opinion."   --Me       *
 * Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    * "Confucius say,'Virginity like    * 
 * OS/2 advocate and user...:)         * balloon one prick all gone'."     *
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen)
Subject: Re: none
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:29:33 GMT

In article <z5l2+4b@rpi.edu> petitc@nuge111.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
>plutnj@aix.rpi.edu (James Matthew Plutnicki) writes:
>
>>In article <13940006@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> erik@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Erik Lode) writes:
>>>	[ Attributions deleted to save space--you know you you are, anyway. ]
>>>
>>>> >>|> |> >>>>=> who are you?
>>>> >>|> |> >>>>I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?
>>>> >>|> |> >>>So I'm Captain Jean-Luc Piccard
>>>> >>|> |> >>>"Lt. Worf take this 'Bart Simpson' to the brig"
>>>> >>|> |> >>OK, I'm Riker: "What the hell's going on over there?!"
>>>> >>|> |> >What the heck, I'm Troi:  "I sense great sarcasm..."
>>>> >>|> |> Q: "Hello, Jean-Luc, how'd you like my 'Bart Simpson'?"
>>>> >>|> Wesley: "Gee, Captain Picard, I just figured out a way to get rid of Q forever..."
>>>> >>Worf: "Growl! Captain, that is not honorable. If Wesley gets to get rid of Q, 
>>>> >>I get to get rid of Wesley!  I asked first - you remember? 
>>>> >>Back in the first season?"
>>>> >Troi:  Oh please, Worf.  You couldn't shoot the broad side of a Ferrengi, let
>>>> >alone beat up Wesley....
>>>> O'Brian: "That does it, I am beaming you all into space and appointing myself
>>>> Captain Miles..."
>>>
>>>Geordie:  Enough!  I'm transferring all Warp, Impulse, APR,
>>>and life support power into the holodeck for my new
>>>"Wild Wanda and her Wanton Whips" program.  The rest of
>>>you can suck cold vacuum.
>>>
>>Barkley: "Hey I helped program that, can I come in too????"
>Wesley:  Hey! I programmed Wanda's Whips---you know, just the way you like it?
Troi:  Geordie, your Star Fleet Battles training is showing.   I also sense
great perversions....

-- 
"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo
"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me
From: tpgemma@eos.ncsu.edu (TIMOTHY PETER GEMMA)
Subject: Re: Muppets Meets The Enterprise (TNG)
Originator: tpgemma@c00013-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Muppets Jim Henson TNG Story
Reply-To: tpgemma@eos.ncsu.edu (TIMOTHY PETER GEMMA)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:09:00 GMT


Very interesting.  Humorous, too, though I did see a few
very out-of-place jokes taken from 1st edition AD&D DMG
(Get that barbarian another beer and +2 Backscratcher)
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Submitting a script
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <0X5PVB1w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, slhood@bluemoon.use.com (Stephen L. Hood) writes...
>What procedures do I need to go through to submit a script for ST:TNG?  I 
>know that there is a writer's guide and other guideline books;  how can I 
>get a hold of them?

     You should get a hold of this season's version of the series
     bible (though in a pinch almost any season's version will do;
     they're almost identical).  You need to know HOW to write a script
     as well as how to write a STAR TREK script.  I'll sketch the
     generalities for you: STAR TREK and DEEP SPACE NINE both work
     on the teaser and five acts structure.  The teaser can be as
     short as three script pages but as long as five if need be.
     The acts should be 10-11 script pages in length, but the overall
     teleplay must not excede 55 pages.  

     A header reading:

     STAR TREK: "Episode Name" - [Act label] - [Date]         [page #.]

     must top every page.  If you don't konw exactly how to write a
     script, a little piece of advice: learn first.  Make yourself
     absolutely comfortable with the strictures involved in writing
     for television.  Buy scripts, pick them apart a word at a time.
     Linda Segar's CREATING UNFORGETTABLE CHARACTERS is a good guide
     and a How to Write Scripts book isn't a bad idea either (there
     are quite a few good ones).  

>Also, if I should post this script in the future, would that disqualify my 
>work for consideration?  Or vice vera?

     You can post it after it's rejected, but not before.  Write to
     ERIC STILLWELL c/o
     STAR TREK: TH NEXT GENERATION
     PARAMOUNT PICTURES CORPORATION
     5555 Melrose Avenue
     Los Angeles, CA 90038
     for more information, and to request the release form you need to
     submit a spec teleplay.  You get three shots; if you are recjected
     three times, you can't submit ever again (without a really good
     agent, that is).

>Thanks for any advice...

     With experience, I can say: your script will almost certainly 
     be rejected.  This is not intended to discourage you; just the
     reverse: it's intended to charge you.  Write a brilliant script --
     powerful, insightful, well written, and most important of all,
     cheap -- and you've got a shot.  NO SPACE BATTLES!!  

>| Stephen L. Hood                  Ask me about GNO/ME, the multitasking |
>|  Micro Center, Inc.                    environment for the Apple IIGS! |
>|  slhood@bluemoon.rn.com                  "My Woz, my Woz, why have you |
>|  slhood@pro-works.cts.com                               abandoned me?" |

     Scott.