From: fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Syrian occupation of Lebanon
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:09:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cubldr.1992Oct16.100957.1
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Oct16.143438.27341@colorado.edu>, saouma@inglis.Colorado.EDU (SAOUMA VICTOR E) writes:
>>Elie,
 
>>Were they welcomed in themaronite controlled area ? If bnot please state
>>any attempts to resist them in those areas !!!!
>>I know the socialist party of Jumblat fought with them as well as the
>>palestinians at that time but did the maronites resist this so called
>>"occupation" ?????
>>Rashed
> 
> For your information, at the time there was a coalition of Palestinians,
> "Socialists", and Murabitouns, all armed by Syrians who were trting to
> find their way to Jerusalem through Jounieh. Yes indeed, the maronites and the
> Christians were about to be completely overrun, and the treatment reserved
> for those who were defeated was well known. The first pictures of
> atrocities I can remember was the bodies of phalangists who were
> trapped in the Holliday Inn, and subsequently drove around pulled by a cable
> from a jeep. What was there to resist? 
> The record of the Maronite is far from being perfect, they have many
> mistakes, 

Please, they have more than only mistakes; and as you know the phalangists did 
more than pulling dead or alive in jeeps.  not to discuss this, whoever did
that were stupid and senseless people. the record of the phalangist is more
than black as others. just remeber what they did for Al-ahrar.

>but one thing you can not accuse them is of selling their country.
> In 1982 when Sharon wanted Beshir to go after West Beirut, Beshir refused.
> When Beshir's soldier were at the airport supposedly shelling themselves
> west Beirut, they had strict (from the phalangists) orders to fake as much as possible and
> lobby those shells to the sea.. When the Maronites allied themselves with
> Israel, it was indeed an act of desperation having been pushed into it
> the sadest part is that about half the Lebanese population did not say anything
> when the Syrian/Palestinian coalition was exterminating the other half.
> History will judge.

do not give this. Beshir met with Pegin (isreali prim minester) in 1982 in
Koryate shmona in Isreal. that is selling the country.  The phalangist were
stripping people from food when west beirut was under seige in 1982. that is
selling the country.  Shelling the sea when the country is occupied (more than
60,000 were killed during the invasion of 1982), this is selling the country. 
Taking commands from the boss (the isrealis) and shelling the sea, that is
selling the country. 
They could have agreed on a better system for all lebanese instead of allying
with the isrealis.

I am not sure, but I hope that history will judge; 
one more point, generalizations like
(maronites, christians , shiites, muslims) as every body knows does not reflect
the story accurately. Because not all are responsible, just some or few. 
> 
> Is it an act of desperation for all those lebanese "politicians" to make a weekly
> pilgrimage to Damascus now? 
> 
for me, much better than a pilgrimage to Isreal.
> 
> 
> Victor E. Saouma
A. fardoun
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