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From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Pigface (was Re: BIG BLACK)
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:08:01 GMT
Organization: Clark University

the group is made up of(old lineup) ogre, trent reznor, cchris connely (i think
) , and other names that i cannot think of right now. i do not believe trent
is still with the band.
From: freeman@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 7 year bitch...
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:25:48 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo


  I think one of their members died this summer of an overdose I could be
wrong. This group is pretty rough hardcore really grindy. I like you might
give it a try. Some "men" may not like the lyrics though.


lotsa love

  Kev
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:37:57 -0500 
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A great album and a great EP

On 19-Jan-93 in A great album and a great EP 
user James Robert Pooton) writes:
>Buy THERAPY?'s new album "NURSE" you won't be dissapointed...

Agreed.  Therapy? has survived the transition to a major label intact. 
They may be more polished, but the songs are still as angry as ever. 
_Caucasian Psychosis_ (a collection of _Pleasure Death_ and _Babyteeth_)
is better, in my opinion, but they are both fine works.

>Power guitar ala HELMET.

I don't completely buy the Helmet comparison.  They don't chugg along
nearly as much, and there is some actual non-power chord stuff on
Therapy?'s album.  Don't get me wrong, I love Helmet, but they are an
entirely different animal.  Helmet is primal, heavy duty chugga-chugga
rock, while Therapy? has more varied guitar and different types of songs
entirely.

>Samples ala Ministry and SP.

The samples are more like Ministry's than Skinny Puppy.  Wheras Puppy's
samples are often central to songs, Ministry and Therapy? use them
mainly for emphasis at certain points in the songs.

>great drums.

Agreed.

>good recording.

This isn't always a plus, but it works on this album.

>many melodic hooks.

This is the main difference between _Caucasian Psychosis_ and _Nurse_. 
The latter has a few slower, calmer more melodic numbers, which are
mostly absent from the former.  They work on this album, but if Therapy?
continues in this direction, they could easily begin producing
substandard stuff.

Really, if albums like _Nurse_ and Bettie Serveert's album are any
indication, this is going to be a good year.

Joshua Buergel - allroy@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu
"Anybody who thinks we overstepped the playground perimeter of lyrical
decency (or that the public has any right to demand 'social
responsibility' from a goddamn punk rock band) is a pure natural dolt,
and should step forward and put his tongue up my ass." - Steve Albini
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tsolis@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Pearl Jam questions
Organization: Clark University
Date: 21 JAN 93 18:03:05 GMT

I kind of got into Pearl Jam a little too late to see any of the articles in
magazines from when they first came out.  I know all about Mother Love Bone...
but aside from that I don't know much.  Did they ever win awards...Grammy,
MTV...?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.  Please e-mail

Theresa
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Velocity Girl Discography
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:18:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.035544.10260@wam.umd.edu> pecot@wam.umd.edu (J.M. Pecot) writes:
>In article <2B6487FE.4503@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>
>>  "The Pre-Moon Syndrome" called "Blackzilla".
>>
>>  The comp also have live trax from Unrest, Honeymoon Killers, Reverb
>>  Motherfuckers, Chrisbald 96, Butterglove, Julianna Luecking Experience,
>>  Beat Happening, and many others.
>>
>>                                                    K!z!K
>>
>    What label is this on? / Is it still available? (Probably Not :-( )
>    Thanx for any replies

   If you're within distance of an indie store which special orders from
  Matador or K, you could order it today.  It's a VINYL/CASSETTE thing
   only so you have been warned.                          K!z!K

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: goldhame@spot.Colorado.EDU (Goldhammer)
Subject: Re: Alice in Chains
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:10:47 GMT

etlclem@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Carl JF Ekstrom) writes:

>In article DyK@news.cso.uiuc.edu, eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
>> How is the Alice in Chains album?  I've heard 'Would' and 'Dirt' and I like them
>> both - would the CD be a good buy?
>> 
>> Ed.
>> 


>It requires some time and effort but it's well worth it. I had to listen to it 6 or 7
>times before I got in to it. Now I love it!!
>"Would" is not very represenative for the album since it's very catchy, a-la a 
>pop-tune, and the rest of the songs has to grow on you.
>Make the effort.
>It's worth it.

>Cheers / Carl 

   I agree.  It took me several listens to get into this, but now I think
it is just incredible.  Definately pick up this album.
-mark

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mjr@trellis.cs.nott.ac.uk (Marcus Roberts)
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in London (UK)
Organization: Communications Research Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:37:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.094029.3004@dct.ac.uk>, mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
> In article <37400002@otter.hpl.hp.com>, arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer) writes:
> > In alt.music.alternative, mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
> > 
> >> Let's just hope that Michale Stipe goes the same way as Freddie Mercury.Soon.
> > 
> > 	I thought you were moderately amusing until this point. Things have
> >  got pretty sad is the best you can manage is to regurgitate the Manics.
> >  The *Manics* for gods sake.
> >
> 
> I was just making sure you SUCKERS had heard it.  I can think of worse things
> to regurgitate.
> 

I presume that either this post is either an extreme piss-take, or someone
has cracked this guy's password, and is making "funny" posts.

> In front of me, I have this week's music press...
> 
> The cover of "Melody Maker" shows Henry Rollins, apparently straining over a
> particularly solid dump live onstage.  The man is covered in bad tattoos and is
> wearing shorts.  He is American.

Having never really heard any Rollins stuff, I won't comment.

> 
> The cover of NME shows him out of Faith No More (hey, "I'm Easy"...great
> song....Not) biting a cigarette.  He appears to be wearing an Adidas tracksuit.  
> He is biting a cigarette.  He is American.
> 

I believe you are referring to Mike Patten.  So the fact that he smokes and
wears a tracksuit indicates to you his personality.  Tcsh!  He's not wearing
a Manic's T-Shirt.  What a sad man... ;-(

> Now, that's a fair-ish cross section of the American alternative scene. Both 

Wow, what a fair cross-section of the American alternative scene!  I mean, one
of the biggest rock bands in the US at the moment.  Gosh, really scraped the
indie barrel for that one didn't we!  Perhaps you should try subscribing
to the indie-list mentioned in this group - and discover the real American
alternative scene.  

> these men are intellectual amoebas.  They are American you see.  And to be a
> successful American the prerequisite is that either you are a deranged
> psychotic or you have a low IQ.
> 

What can you say to that, except laugh at him.

> America is failed Europe.
> 

Really, got all this from the front of two music papers did we?

> And I sincerely do hope that Stipe dies soon.

Why THE HELL would anyone wish that someone died soon?  Just why do you
believe that?  I cannot comprehend the mentality of such a statement!

> 
> **Lucas**

Marcus

----
mjr@cs.nott.ac.uk                 "After a drink or three,
mjr@xtel.co.uk                       You stopped making sense to me"
Communications Resarch Group,     
University of Nottingham            - Senseless Things, Homophobic Asshole
From: tcronin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tom Cronin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: songs about trains...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:08:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

       In the About Trains category: Peace Train by 10,000 Maniacs
		     (covered from someone old and only on early
		       versions of In My Tribe)
       In the Sounds Like Trains/Mentions Trains category:
		    London, by the Smiths
			  
			  Tom

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tom Cronin                                 "Ere long done do does did"
tcronin@ocf.Berkeley.EDU                    - Some dizzy whore, 1804
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jgh2457@sigma.tamu.edu (HUBBLE, JEREMY GROBERG)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Young Fresh Fellows
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:46 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sigma.tamu.edu
Keywords: Fellows
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan19.004556.14006@cs.wisc.edu>, orf@ssec.wisc.edu (Leigh Orf) writes...
>>			
>Funny, I was listening to LBT when reading your request. I don't know about
>the tour dates (although would be very interested in knowing) but do have
>opinions of LBT. I am familiar only with Electric Bird Digest, The Men Who
>Loved Music, and Low Beat Time. I like all three albums a lot, for different
>reasons... LBT retains their offbeat sense of humor and is well done musically.
>I especially enjoy the two garage-sounding-recorded-at-too-high-a-level
>songs (99 Girls, She Won't Budge) and their cover of the Rascal's Love Is A
>Beautiful Thing. Green Green is cool too, although takes some weird turns...
>anybody know where the scratched-record bit about RockNRoll (TM) music
>comes from? It's pretty funny in a 50's way. Anyhow I am quite happy with this
>one... took less time to grow on my than TMTLM did, but not nearly as fast as
>EBD did... love that one.
> 
>leigh

I did hear that that WERE supposed to be doing a California show (San Fran.
area) with They Might Be Giants as the headliners, but the show that a friend
of mine was cancelled, so I'm not sure....   The only YFF I've heard is 
_This One's for the Ladies_, which is a great tape, that also has a few songs
with the 50s 'organ' style sound.  (I'll admit that I got into YFF, almost 
solely based on a line from They Might Be Giants "Twisting" - and can truely
say "she doesn't have to have her Young Fresh Fellows tape back".)  Anyway,
the person I got it from said it was their best, so it might be worth checking
out....  

Later - Jeremy...



Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: 1417054PS485@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:48:39 GMT

	I really liked the BNL two or three years ago, but now I'm starting 
to get sick of them.  I think they're way too comercialized (like Mickey 
Mouse or disco tunes) so they don't amuse me as much anymore.  I did like 
the first tape they released with the 5 songs on it.  It sounded much more 
spontaneous and neat.  Especially "If I had a $1 000 000"; on the "Gordon" 
CD it sounds way too refined and sorta hokey.  
						Naomi
From: bg@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill Whitson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Crackerbash, Zip Gun, Supersuckers, Gas Huffer
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:23:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Ha!  Two show reviews in one day.  Now you know I don't have a social life!

This show was at the Oz here in Seattle.  It was being taped for a documentary
on the Seattle music scene which should come out about year's end according
to the film guy I talked to.

Crackerbash opened the show.  I've never seen them before.  I didn't think
they sucked but I won't be buying their album.  Stripped down punk, kinda'
whiney.

Zip Gun was next.  If you can ever see them live it's well worth it.  I've
seen them 3 times now and never been dissappointed.  The lead singer stage
dives and keeps singing without any problem.  He helps people up on stage
and then throws them right back off.  They are one of those bands that has
incredible stage presence.  Buy their album.  See them live.

Supersuckers were next.  Compared to usual, they looked kind of bored.  I
wonder if the scene is wearing on them.  They played most of their best songs
including new material.  Looked like maybe they were playing for the cameras.

Gas Huffer finished the show.  They played most of their new album and a bunch
off their old.  They even played Lizard Hunt, which I've never heard them play
live before.  They came out for an encore to chants of "Nisqually" whick they
gladly played.  The lead singer was really hamming it up for the camera.  The
video should be a riot.  They claim they'll never go major label, but with the
number of fans they have around here now I don't know if they'll be able to
live up to that.

Bill Whitson
bill@booster.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: coakley@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Sgt.Kirby)
Subject: Re: Carter USM song...
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:44:30 GMT


>
>	"Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere" is on their second album "30-Something"
>
>	Just in case you dont see this I'll mail you as well (pays to be safe)
>
>
>	P.S. I was the one who sent in the other post about "King-Rocker".
>	     If anyone has any ideas on the words could they mail me please,
>	     and before anyone flames me, Yes, I have tried to work out the 
>	     words, No, I havent got them all. As far as I can figure (correct
>	     me if Im wrong), It seems to be about a boxing match between 
>	     Elvis and another singer. Any suggestions?
>	     
>

	I just tried to mail you and the daemon returned it! Sorry.
	
-- 
 -------------------------------------------------<coakley@uk.ac.cov.cck>----- 
 "..LOUDHAILERS WERE BLARING..................STEAMROLLERED MY SOUL.......... 
  ..................DISFIGURED BY THE SPIRIT OF ROCK AND ROLL................"
                                                 the family cat  "steamroller"
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Re: ++ Colourbox ++ (that old band on 4 A D )
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:31:45 GMT

Someone mentioned that the CD (CAD 508) contains the first four of the songs
mentioned  (Edit the Dragon, Hipnition, We Walk Around the Streets, Arena II).

The cassette copy of the same catalog number contains the last 3 tracks (Manic
II, Fast Dump, Sex Gun) also.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man)
Subject: Re: TORI does Nirvana
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:59:06 GMT

drolrevo@ac.dal.ca writes
> 	My roommate heard on the radio a Tori Amos cover of
> Nirvana's Smells like Teen Spirit. Where can I find this song 
> and on what medium (i.e. single, ep, disc etc.)? 
> 	And if you've heard it, tell me, does she do the song justi

I'm probably in the minority here, but I really dislike it.  It's not because  
I'm a big fan of Nirvana and can't appreciate a soft version of the song  
(actually, I never liked Nirvana).  It's just that I think that doing a  
really soft, sad cover version played on piano or accoustic guitar in which  
you sound like your crying all the way through it is a really cheap and  
unimaginative way to do a remake.  It's really the oldest trick in the book.  

I also think that it's just a little too commercial to release a cover  
version so soon after the original; especially when the original was such a  
huge success, and the artist doing the cover isn't very well known.  It's  
like she was using Nirvana's success to gain publicity for herself.

In short, I respect Tori Amos musically but I think that "Smells Like Teen  
Spirit" was just an easy way to spread her name around.

-- Andy Tay
From: v165nqxp@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joe Mikolic)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Is Social Distortion's first album (Mommy's Little Monster) worth getting?
I've never seen it in any stores, so I imagine it will have to be special
ordered.  Before I go through that, I'm interested in what SD fans think of
the album.

Joe Mikolic
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Spaceman 3 info
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:37:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.001513.16512@massey.ac.nz> RPatel@massey.ac.nz (R. Patel) writes:
>
>G'day,
>
>I'm hoping someone can tell me what Spacemen 3 sound like ?
>
>I've got Spiritualiseds Laser Guided Melodies which is pretty cool, very
>mellow but possible over rated after all the hype I've read.
>
>Thanx in advance.
>
>-- 
>
>
>              "Righteous Indignation, try it, you'll like it"
>                           
>			   rpatel@massey.ac.nz
>
>			    Massey University
>		       	     Palmerston Nth 
>			      New Zealand			


     Spacemen 3 have that swirly, atmospheric guitar sound but much different
than bands like Ride or My bloody Valentine...they are definitely more mellow,
thanks to Sonic Boom who is one of the coolest guitarists around (who is in
Spectrum now)...The Spacemen 3 live album is pretty good, as is "Reoccuring."
They're definitely worth a listen.

BTW, did anyone besides myself ever buy the "Guitarrorists" compilation and
care to comment on it? For those who don't know, this comp has 26 guitarists
doing instrumentals, including Sonic Boom, Steve Albini(Big Black, Rapeman),
Kramer(Bongwater), Lee, Thurston, and Kim (Sonic Youth), Nick Salomon (Bevis
Frond), J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.), and loads of other really great guitar
players...

Mike
mag@wam.umd.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lither@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (litherland kathryn j)
Subject: Re: REM - favorite lesser-known songs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:27:07 GMT

I've never paid much attention to REM on the radio, since they invariably
pick out the worst 1 or 2 songs off an album to play to death.  I really
like a lot of REM, and will tolerate just about any of it except _Out of
Time_.  Some of my favorites include "Burning Hell" and "Wolves, Lower,"
"Seven Chinese Brothers," etc.  I could go on for a while if I thought
about it--I guess their angry or meloncholy songs appeal to me most.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: moleface@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Moleface)
Subject: Re: Soundgarden
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:05:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.093802.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> craa60@vaxa.strath.ac.uk  
writes:
> In article <C1FJ9s.Dvr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gershbei@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu  
(Michael Gershbein) writes:
> > 
> > Hey.  Does anyone else think that Soundgarden sounds a little too much  
like
> > (ugh) Whitesnake to be fully enjoyed?
> 
> Is it April 1st or is this a sick joke?...  Ho Didly Dum.
> 
I can maybe--MAYBE--see this in that Cornell sorta has that same husky  
quality to his voice as David Coverdale, but any similarities, real or  
imagined, end there.
Moleface
From: J.Diego.Prange@dartmouth.edu (J. Diego Prange)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: afghan whigs
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:25:42 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan28.191725.8084@hubcap.clemson.edu>
snordgr@eng.clemson.edu (scott nordgren) writes:

> 
>    I was listening to my college radio station (wsbf-clemson) yesterday and heard a really cool whigs song.  It was a dance mix of "rebirth of cool" (the chorus is "don't forget the alcohol" i think that's the name) Anyway, I called the station and e
> dj said it was from a promo cd and wasn't available in stores.  
>    I, being a faithful reader of this alt.music.alternative, figured somebody out there would have information on obtaining promo cd's.  Please prove me correct.  Any info on promo cd's?
>   I figure I probabably have to bribe my local record store owner or pay out the ass, but if there is an easier way I would like to know it.  Thanks.

The CD is available in stores, it's called"Uptown Avondale".  It has 4
other songs besides the remix.  I saw it just the other day for $6.99
which isn't too much.  The original version of the song is a bonus
track on the Wighs CD Congregation.
From: caroliner@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: elastic man...
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:45:06 GMT
Reply-To: caroliner@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


    from the 'hey there, fuckface-a' desk of caroliner rainbow:

well, mr. e smith is indeed a fascinating one, to say the least...he's also a
big science fiction fan...there's a really neat interview w/him in a book
called 'tape delay'...it's a really good book too, with stuff on swans, ptv,
coil, test dept., lydia lunch, rollins, david tibet, foetus, stevo, sonic 
youth, einsturzende neubauten, matt johnson, soft cell, nick cave, cabaret
voltaire, boyd rice, hafler trio, diamanda galas, chris and cosey, new order,
and laibach...oh and it's also got the lyrics to 'c.r.e.e.p.' by the fall...

     -   caroliner vest soggy dots answers.
From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: GREEN DAY
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:16:59 GMT
Organization: Clark University

does anyone know wehn green day are planning to to tour in the boston/new york/
providence area. also connecticut would help, too seeing that i live there.
any info would be a big help
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: plockwoo@jarthur.claremont.edu (Philip Lockwood)
Subject: Re: Treepeople
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:21:07 GMT


well, it's good to see that the treepeople didn't break up, but it's too bad
that they pulled a cheap stunt like that to excuse a lame show...

i heard they broke up from one of their good friends, a guy who even played
the same bill with them once or twice.  he's thanked in their liner notes...
anyway, he said they broke up cause "they hated each other."  good to see
that they'll still be putting out good music.  i just hope that they don't
pull a nirvana attitude on us, though.


-phil

p.s.  does anyone have their split 7" with house of large sizes?  how is it?
i've always meant to pick it up, but never gotten around to it...
From: 9210466@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Johnny Moped?
Date: 19 Jan 93 14:37:16 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


   Doe's anybody out there in netland have any records/tapes
   from a band called Johnny Moped?
   If so drop a line to me at 9210466@ul.ie
   -John 9210466@ul.ie
         john.quinn@online.iol.ie