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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Volleyball complaints (NOT US-Japan)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:03:25 GMT

In article <55466@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca) writes:

|> Fortunately, starting from these Olympic games, the 17 point cap is
|> not anymore in force in the fifth set, at least this is what I read.
|> See also below.

This would mean that the US commentators were wrong when they said there was
still a seventeen point cap during the fivth set that we dreamt the US team
was playing in against Japan. (Imagine that! the commentators were wrong. What
a surprise!)

Jason W. Solinsky
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-M's 100m Breaststroke Heat 6
Summary: results completed
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:30:35 GMT

SWIMMING - Men's 100m Breaststroke - Heat 6
===========================================
 
World Record		1:01.29
Olympic Record		1:01.65

 
1	HAYASHI, Akira			JPN	1:01.76		Qualified
2	DIEBEL, Nelson			USA	1:01.80		Qualified
3	TORRES BOST, Todd		PUR	1:02.72
4	DERSCH, Hans			USA	1:03.14
5	MINERVINI, Gianni		ITA	1:03.23
6	MONTESINOS, Mario Gonzales	CUB	1:03.53
7	SUOMINEN, Petri Juhani		FIN	1:03.75
8	MYDEN, Curtis			CAN	1:03.80

** Results complete **
 
Rod Swift
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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Diving commentary & TripleCast
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:14:06 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Jul30.152440.1524@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Hebe.B.Quinton@dartmouth.edu (Hebe B. Quinton) writes:
>
>On another note:  I think that the TripleCast approach is a GIANT step
>in the right direction.  It could be improved by showing the medal
>performances for *every* sport, but NO COMMERCIALS is wonderful.  I
>think we should encourage NBC to keep trying this approach until they
>get it right.
>
>All the complaints about cost, scheduling etc, makes you guys sound
>like spoiled babies :-)  - $125 over two weeks ain't bad - think how
>much you spend on movies, eating out, CD's, etc.

I haven't missed any FINAL heats/rounds for any swimming/diving,gymnastics
on a 'free' NBC coverage in the last 4 days of competition. NBC is doing
a good job of going right to the action with no commentators yapping in
front of the camera. If you can stand the frequency of the ads and are
patient enough to sit thru the intros that includes 'personal' look and
"Where are they now?" features, you basically get all the vital coverage.
and see who won the Gold,Silver and Bronze. 

PPV is supposed to be an addition to the regular coverage and could be a
fine way to spend quality time on a hot summer afternoon if you have nothing
else to worry about like a job. Guessing by the number of people who
subscribed,Americans are pretty much content with the regular 161-hour
coverage and don't hunger for more. NBC's ratings for a mostly taped
coverage so far are spectacular and way ahead of Seoul's 'Plastic Olympics'
so at least SOMEONE is watching the commercials :-)

My view is that NBC or whoever is telecasting a world-wide
event like the Olympics should improve its own coverage first and then worry about
things like TripleCast which will find only a limited appeal for the next
Olympics and won't publicized that heavily again(Thanks God!).

I gotta give NBC some credit. They've really done a better job of showing
more action and explaining different sports which are rarely seen on
American TV like Equestrian(Animal Rights people must be up in arms after
seeing all the horses tumbling around on a such poorly designed course).
Also, the Diet Coke video of the night is not part of NBC's actual feature
coverage.
It's actually part of Coke's $40 million of ad time which is trying to
feed the kids MTV from Barcelona and making a real stretch out of it.

-Mark
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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: The three day event for the US
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:58:51 GMT
Keywords: n


>When Carl and the rest of the "Drug Free" track team (NOT) get going
>I am sure they will give the others a run for their money.

Wait....are you jealous of Carl because he took the 1988 Gold Medal from
yellow eyed, doped up idiot, "wow-I-can't-run-fast-anymore", schmuck like
BEN JOHNSON????????


>Good Luck to the whole US team.  I just know you all have it in you to
>be world class ASSHOLES.
 
I keep forgetting how nice and kind and considerate the French are in 
Canada.....ya right.

>But it is not over yet.

You are right is not!!!!  I keep forgetting what kind of great heroes you
have....Wayne Gretzky.....oops, he fled to the great red, white and blue
and is now our hero.  Mark Messier....oops, same thing.  How about Eric
Lindros, WOW, same thing and in your national sport.  Do you see something of
interest here...those of you certain Manitobans that don't have a clue.

Do some research before you put your foot in your mouth!!!!!
From: roderick@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Brett Roderick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Summer olympics trivia quiz
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:04:31 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

The following is a summer olympic trivia
quiz from the cafeteria at work. Can someone
send me the appropriate year(s) to match the
host city.                                      

year  city                        choices
____  Munich, Germany              1896
____  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1900
____  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1904
____  Rome, Italy                  1908
____  Berlin, Germany              1912
____  Melbourne, Australia         1920
____  London, Great Britain        1924
____  London, Great Britain        1928
____  Seoul, S. Korea              1932
____  Paris, France                1936
____  Paris, France                1948
____  Mexico City, Mexico          1952
____  St. Louis, U.S.A.            1956
____  Athens, Greece               1960
1992  Barcelona, Spain             1964
____  Moscow, U.S.S.R              1968
____  Tokyo, Japan                 1972
____  Stockholm, Sweden            1976
____  Montreal, Canada             1980
____  Antwerp, Belgium             1984
____  Amsterdam, Holland           1988
____  Helsinki, Finland            1992



-- 
Brett Roderick                
roderick@ap040.csc.ti.com
From: danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

Is it just me or just Bob Costas have no facial expression whatsoever?
Come on, man, show some emotion!

-- 
Danny Faught    danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu
Save this sig - I'll be famous someday
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From: jpxu1@fnalo.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS:  Opinions on Gutsu's new all-around chance
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:39:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.160307.17920@athena.mit.edu>, raek@athena.mit.edu (Robyn A E Kozierok) writes:
> In article <f_qm!!+@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>This sort of thing, [killing the 3 gymnasts/nation rule]
>>from what I understand, gets proposed all the time but
>>gets voted down by the smaller countries, who (rightly) feel that the only 
>>way that their gymnasts will have a chance to get into the finals would be
>>to limit the number of entries from the top countries.
>>
>>r.
> 
> 
> I am aware of why the rule has not yet been changed.  But I still feel that it
> should be.  What right do the smaller countries have to have gymnasts in the
> finals who are not on the level of the competitors from the strong gymnastic
> nations?  Do any other sports have such a rule? (track? diving? swimming?
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sure, this is the reason why Carl failed to qualify in 100M sprint.

> others?)  The gymnasts who get in this way are not even close to being in the
> running for anything, whereas many of the gymnasts who are eliminated by this
> rule would be.  If this is an _individual_ all-around final, the top 36
> (or any other number you choose to use) _individuals_ should be competing in
> it.
> 
> --Robyn
> 
> 
>
From: smackinl01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Pinball Standings as of 30/7!
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:49:04 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

The standings as of 30/7 are:

A Division:
Country         Total Points    This Match  Matches Played
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Zimbabwe        2212004432      212000      5
Austria         3200321000      323010!!    5
Puerto Rico     1211200000      122130      4 Poor effort, come on guys
Tasmania        4423002340      602300!!    4 Olympic Record!
Outer Mongolia  1532002380      400540      3
Siberia         3008392990      10032660    3 Last games for these guys!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

B Division Results will be in tomorrow - catch the big Poland v Japan match
tonight!!
-- 
Simon.
Have you got a form 27/b?
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From: chunduri@ee.tamu.edu (Srikar Chunduri)
Subject: NBC - volley Ball Scores
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:33:48 GMT

    Did any one notice that during the highlights shown
    on the regular NBC the scoring shown was crazy.
    Points were awarded when ever there was a chenge of
    service insted they awarded a point.
   (One more feather in their cap. :-))

  srikar

-- 

	Full speed ahead 
		Aye Aye Captain.-- Sulu
From: rpendse@velveeta.mfg.hou.compaq.com (Raju Pendse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: US/Japan volleyball match
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:19:48 GMT
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation

I think the whole match was a fiasco and the umps did screw up the match, but
in the end I think justice was done. Regardless, the behaviour of the US 
player has totally been lost in this confusion. No one who shouts or argues
with the ump should be made into a hero of sorts as the US team has done by 
allegedly shaving their heads. Irrespective of the umps performance the fact
that this guys bad behaviour cost US the match. This fact has been totally lost
by everybody. The umps did not, nor did the officials for overturning the result, it was the unsportsmanlike behaviour of the player that cost the US the match.
If I was the US coach I would make sure this player gets censured for his
behaviour just as I would expect Chuck Daly to caution Barkley for his 
unsportsmanlike conduct in the games so far.

Raju Pendse
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From: worden@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (elizabeth worden)
Subject: Canadian Rower - Clari.sports.olympic 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:06:03 GMT

Also, I have not gotten any new feed from Clari.sports.olympic in
several days.  Surely there is more being added there...?  Has anyone
else had this problem?
From: NBCcommentators@Barcelona
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: NBC Commentator's Apology
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:27:33 GMT
Originator: pi@spica.bu.edu

We really feel very guilty for our behavior these days. We do not know 
what had happened. It seems our mouths are out of control. Look at
what we have done:

* We had kept saying that one EUN's female gymnast got a three-bedroom
  apartment for her family who used to have only one-bedroom apartment
  for 7 family members.
* We mentioned a disaster in one of ex-USSR's nclear power plants to
  refer to poor EUN's athletes.
* Romania could not get away. Their country's sad stories and poor
  situation was also mentioned in our commentary.
* We spread rumors that Chinese swimmers might have used steroids simply
  because they took the gold medals which supposed to belong USA. You
  see if these "easterners" had not gottten these gold medals, we would 
  have not spreaded these rumors (it's really not our fault).
* ...

Well, our commentary was not as bad as our program editor's work. Look,
they made men's gymnatsic games look like a MTV, or "American's funnest
gymnastic vedio". We all feel very sorry for our male gymnasts' bad luck, 
but it just that our program editors were out of control.

Please accept our apology. We will try very hard for next Olympics.
After all, the whole purpose of the Olympics is to make "easterners"
a little bit more "westernized", or make "westerners" a little bit
more "easternized", is it?

NBC's commentators
From Barcelona
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From: mreed@nynexst.com (Michael Reed)
Subject: Re: US Olympic rowing team...[Roster]
Summary: Olympic team roster follows...
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:35:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.152305.2163@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> olivier@hundun.cnd.mcgill.ca (Olivier Georg) writes:
>Could some tell me who are the member of the US rowing
>team? (male & female)
>
>Thank you very much.

Here's  the  roster.  I'm  not   putting  down their  height/  weight/
hometown/ etc.   because it would  take  me forever.  If you have  any
interest in info on a specific competitor, let me know...



U.S. Olympic Rowing Team, Men:

Name:           Event:
G. Walker	1x     (from my own club!! Yow!  Go Greg!!  Go New York A.C. !!!)

J. Smith	2x
G. Springer	2x

R. Kaehler	4x
C. McKibben	4x
K. Pearson	4x
J. Riley	4x

J. Moore	2+
A. Pollack	2+
S. Shellans	c: 2+

J. Pescatore	2-
P. Sharis	2-

T. Bielefeld	4+
T. Evans	4+
S. Hall		4+
J. Neil		4+
J. Rusher	c: 4+

T. Bohrer	4-
D. Burden	4-
P. Manning	4-
J. McLaughlin	4-

M. Baker	8+
R. Kennelly	8+
J. Klepacki	8+
M. Moore	8+
S. Munn		8+
J. Parker	8+
C. Sahs		8+
R. Shepard	8+
M. Teti		c: 8+

D. Gleeson	spare
A. Green	spare
M. Berkner	spare
J. Moulton	spare
C. Swan		spare
M. Still	spare


U.S. Olympic Rowing Team, Women:

A. Marden	1x

M. Mazzio	2x
C. Ryder	2x

S. Eddy-Moulton	4x
K. Karlson	4x
M. Knox-Zaloom	4x
A. Townley	4x

S. Maxwell-Pierson 2-
A. Seaton	2-

S. Donohoe	4-
C. Eckert	4-
C. Feeney	4-
A. Fuller	4-

C. Brown	8+
S. Day		8+
Y. Farooq	8+
S. Gengler	8+
K. Jones	8+
B. McCagg	8+
M. McCagg	8+
D. Olson	8+
T. Rude		c: 8+

A. Baltnell	spare
L. Behrens	spare
L. Burns	spare
C. Fallon	spare
B. Kimnel	spare
M. Porter	spare
K. Santiago	spare
A. Thies	spare



U.S. Olympic Rowing Team, Coaches:

H. Buschbacher    Women's 8+, 4- (National Women's Sweep Team Coach)
I. Grinko         Scullers       (National Team Sculling Coach)
K. Korseniowski   Men's 8+       (National Technical Director)
C. Butt           Scullers
J. Dietz          Scullers
H. Hatton         Women's 2-
C. Jordan         Men's 4+
B. Konopka        Men's 2-
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: TripleCast News
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:21:50 GMT

NEW YORK (AP) - The troubled Olympic TripleCast of NBC and Cablevision
will be given away free to cable TV viewers for seven hours a day Thursday 
and Friday.

NBC said the TripleCast would be shown on CNBC, its financial cable network,
from 5-9pm Thursday and Friday nights and from midnight to 4am Friday and 
Saturday mornings. CNBC is carried as basic cable on most systems.

Also, NBC cut the suggested retail price of single-day viewing from $29.95
to $19.95 and suggested cable systems offer a Saturday-Sunday special of
$29.95.

The Olympic TripleCast originally was priced at $125 for all three channels, 
which broadcast live from 4am to 4pm and then show the previous 12 hours on
tape.

TV industry publications have estimated that 250,000 homes have subscribed to 
the TripleCast thus far. NBC had hoped to sell the TripleCast to 2 million homes.

------

Comment: Boy, they must be taking a big bath on this one. Hey, Mark, shall
we call this a victory for the little sports geeks over the mongo sports
conglomerates, or do we still have a way to go?

A question remains, though: which channel gets broadcast for free? And do
I get to miss John McLaughlin? :)

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com) OK, Charles, just hang on that rim a
    little longer so we can eject you!
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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Subject: Re: Cricket in the Olympics
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:05:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.022205.22511@tamsun.tamu.edu> gopal@tamsun.tamu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.205320.14639@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> rajah@soda.berkeley.edu (Raja S Kushalnagar) writes:
>(stuff about baseball and cricket deleted)
>
>He he! You should have seen a recent article in Houston Chronicle giving a
>map of all the countries which play baseball.Almost every country except those
>in Central Africa and two countries in South America are supposed to play 
>baseball.Imagine baseball being played in countries like Bhutan,Bangladesh.
>The whole of China,India, SriLanka are included as places where baseball is
>played.In my entire stay in India( 2 states and long visits to 6 other states)
>the only places where I have seen baseball being played are the schools for
>the handicapped(schools for the deaf and dumb- Please note this is not an 
>insult to them.The other places where it could have been played are certain
>select clubs).But by no means do even 1/6 of the countries represented on the
>map play the game.Actually I think more people play cricket in America than
>the number who play baseball in south asia.(not Far-East or south east asia)
>
>Gopal
>
>

An estimated 2 BILLION people watched Pakistan defeat England in the 
Cricket World Cup in Melbourne earlier this year.  

And closer to home, an estimated 80,000 people read the cricket scores
on usenet, most of them in the US.  This far exceeded the readership of
any sports related newsgroup.

Just thought you'd like to know.

j n a
Xref: sparky rec.sport.olympics:1766 misc.fitness:6255
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:35:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul30.151450.890@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>,
  Susan Gauch writes:

> How can one tell from a "face" that someone has used steroids?  I
> know that some steroids (i.e. Prednizone) give "moon-face" (i.e. a
> rounder face than normal) but I didn't particularly notice it in Kirelin.

He has exaggerated features commonly associated with using human
growth hormone.

> steroids, but the they mentioned on NBC last night that he weighed
> 15 pounds at birth!!!

Did you notice the physical difference between him and the other
supers?  I guess they just don't want it as bad as he does - NOT.
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Isn't Olympics for Amateurs?
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:16:36 GMT

In article 1t5@regentdb.uoknor.edu, wee@regentdb.uoknor.edu (Wee Win) writes:
>I always thought(yeah, I know...."I think, therfore I am wrong") that the
>Olympics were for Amateurs.  Can someone please explain the "Dream Team"?
>And isn't Steve Timons a pro?  And what about the Tennis people?  
>
>Or do I just have the olympic dream wrong?
>
>-- 
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Well, think about: Carl Lewis, Jackie Joyner Kersee, any athlete that receives 
money from either a national athletic organization or commercial concerns.  This 
is a long and overdiscussed topic.  The idea of amateurism is a quaint and elitist
concept propagated by the aristocracy at the time of the founding of the modern
olympic games.  The wealthy leasure class did not want to compete with the working
class, so they devised this amateur concept to exclude anyone who can not
afford to train exclusively for the competitions.  Almost all athletes at the 
olympics receive some form of monetary compensation for what they do, whether these compensation are in the form of endorsements or direct payment. 

If you were to apply the early olympic rules strictly, we can probably hold
the olympics in a single stadium with a handful of athletes.

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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-W's 100m Butterfly Heat 3
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:26:06 GMT

   Heat 3
 1.  Anna Uryniuk (Poland)                          1:02.50
 2.  Barbara Franco Solana (Spain)                  1:02.83
 3.  Natasha Meshkovska (CIS)                       1:04.16
 4.  Ana Alegria (Portugal)                         1:04.18
 5.  Berit Raith Puggaard (Denmark)                 1:04.57
 6.  Gabriela Gaja Cover (Mexico)                   1:04.84

Rod Swift
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