HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aggarwal@tigger.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Subject: Re: Two-hop UUCP feed with C-news
Originator: aggarwal@nisc.jvnc.net
Organization: JvNCnet
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:40:26 GMT

geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:

>Gary Mills:
>>My news server is on a machine that has only TCP connections, which is
>>fine for the NNTP feeds.  Another machine has serial ports for UUCP.
>>I have set up an UUCP link over TCP between the two, assuming that I
>>would only need to change the viauux script [...]

>news to the sites connected to world.std.com, I have batchparms invoke
>viaworlduux, which is like viauux except that the last line is

>	exec rsh world "exec uux - -r -gd $1!rnews"

Does anyone have a 'viaftp' sender ? I know that its easy to write,
but I guess handling of failed FTP's would require some thought,
and if someone's already done it, it would help.

There are a fair number of 'leaf' sites directly on the Internet that
would benefit a lot by using a uucp style transfer (using 'ftp') 
instead of NNTP (even with the expected NNTP-2).

Please Cc: me directly via email if you have any such beastie.

If I don't get any answers and I develop something, I will post
it out. Any ideas and suggestions are welcome.

 -vikas                                                     (609) 258-2403
 vikas@jvnc.net	                                  ...rutgers!jvncnet!vikas
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From: heller@netcom.com (MAMA DAEMON)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Cnews on a Sun running Solaris 1.1 or 2.X
Keywords: Solaris, Sun, Cnews
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:42:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article heller@netcom.com (MAMA DAEMON) writes:
>I've just placed an order for SPARCstation 10 running Solaris.  This system
>will be the News system, and I expect to configure CNEWS.  I'm seeking 
>out information concerning configuring CNEWS under the Solaris 1.1 or 2.0.
>Has there been any problems?  If so, has anyone found workarounds?
>
>I used to monitor this group quite a bit, but lately I haven't, so I have
>most likely missed any threads on the subject.  If this isn't the correct
>group to post to, please let me know.
>
>Thanx for your help (In Advance)!
>
>Debbie Heller (aka Ma Daemon)

Thanks to all of you who have responded via email.  Everyone has been 
disconcertingly consistant!!  (Is this a good, or a bad sign...?)

> Essentially the answer went something like this:  don't use the stdio speedup
> code.  It doesn't.  But w/a SPARC 10 you probably don't need this code anyway.

I tend to agree.  Anyway, thanx for the help, fellas!

deb (aka Mother Daemon)


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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: heller@netcom.com (MAMA DAEMON)
Subject: Cnews on a Sun running Solaris 1.1 or 2.X
Summary: Solaris problems
Keywords: Solaris, Sun, Cnews
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:03:25 GMT

I've just placed an order for SPARCstation 10 running Solaris.  This system
will be the News system, and I expect to configure CNEWS.  I'm seeking 
out information concerning configuring CNEWS under the Solaris 1.1 or 2.0.
Has there been any problems?  If so, has anyone found workarounds?

I used to monitor this group quite a bit, but lately I haven't, so I have
most likely missed any threads on the subject.  If this isn't the correct
group to post to, please let me know.

Thanx for your help (In Advance)!

Debbie Heller (aka Ma Daemon)


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Xref: sparky news.software.b:3393 news.software.nntp:1556
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: INN: Why does rmgroup/changegroup run only in run mode
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:11:07 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <1epgqlINN6ti@dsinc.dsi.com> syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein) writes:
:I was doing a general cleanup of the active file tonight and had
:about 55 changegroups and rmgroups to do.  I know I could have
:edited the active file directly, but I decided to try them via
>inn's ctlinnd.
Woof, that's a lot of work.  Best to throttle, edit the file, reload,
and go.

>If it can handle a newgroup while throttled, why not
>those two?
I no longer remember.  Try the fix and see if it doesn't crash.
I will not have time to look at for a while.
	/r$
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: After INN instalation: problems to post
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:21:08 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <1eqp5rINNa67@uni-paderborn.de> news@uni-paderborn.de (News Uni-Paderborn) writes:
>can't get list of newsgroup.Permission dinied
>Article not posted.
Make sure that the active file is owned by your news administrator,
and that nnrpd can read it.  To test this, run nnrpd by hand on the
server while you have su'd to NEWSUID.

You might also look at running inncheck.
	/r$
From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Quick questionnaire
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:50:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: mulga.9232113.13833
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

In <BxKDLv.MEA@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:

| Believe me, the implementors have thought about this, at length.  Nobody
| has yet found a workable solution.

Seems to me there are just two solutions - either simply put up with the
way things work now, and accept that postings from anywhere can appear
in our cs.general and general (etc) newsgroups.

Or, simply outlaw crossposting between "local" and non-local groups,
where "outlaw" means simply refuse to accept an article from an
external link that is cross posted to a local newsgroup (if it later
appears from an internal link, that's fine), and never transmit
articles cross-posted to local groups to external links, if that's
what the poster wants, they'll need to post twice instead of cross
posting.

In theory, you'd need a hierarchy of localness (local to this host,
local to this department, organisation, region, ...) and similar
notations on the links.  In practice just "local" and "external"
would probably do, its only usually the "very local" groups that
cause problems.

Its doable, though I'm not sure its really worth it (I mean, what is
"general" for if not for debates between supporters of Bush & Clinton...)

kre
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: briank@ars2.uucp (D. Brian Kimmel)
Subject: Missing groups
Organization: Automated Retail Systems, Seattle, Wa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:26:24 GMT
Keywords: missing newgroups

Hi,

I just noticed a problem that I only suspected before.

I administer two news systems one of which feeds the other.  Last night
I got email that tale (David C Lawrence) created 2 new mac newsgroups.

When I got to the office today, there was only one group; the other group
was missing.  I checked the control directory and there is only one
control message here.  There is nothing in the queue to come here from
the first machine.

Both systems are running the same performance release of C news.  When
I just logged into the 1st machine and checked the article ids in the
log file and both were marked to come to this system.
Message-Ids: BxtuzJ.1vs.uunet.uu.net
             Bxtuz1.1us@uunet.uu.net

Since both control messages came from tale, I suspect that they were
correctly formed and would normally go to both systems.

Has anyone ever seen this before?  Where should I look for more clues
to determine what happened.

First machine runs SCO 3.2.2, Second runs SCO-ODT 1.1  The connection
is via Telebit modems and UUCP.  There is nothing in in.coming/bad here.

I am stumped.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Brian
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From: barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Two-hop UUCP feed with C-news
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:55:39 +0200
Organization: Dept. Elec. Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

In article <4026@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca>,
clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
> Why bother?  Geoff's rsh script is one very simple way of doing it
> provided that the destination userid is somehow secure and restricted.

rsh doesn't queue failed attempts.

> Another way is to simply set up UUCP to run over TCP.

That will probably be a good solution for most people.  But have you ever
used an entwork that was so congested, and whose packet round trip time
was so great, that uucp-over-tcp failed with complaints about "connection
timed out"?  The link between South Africa and the rest of the Internet
was like that for a long time.  ftp and rcp turned out to be among the
few things that could cope.

Here's how we set up a newsfeed over the slow link:

 o The sending site's news system pretends to be running over a vanilla
   UUCP link, so it generates compressed batches and feeds them to "uux
   -r - receiver!rnews".

 o The sending site's UUCP system is told never to call the receiving
   site.

 o The sending site runs a program called uucico.rcp from cron.
   uucico.rcp uses rcp to send the relevant D.* files to the receiving
   site, and just deletes the C.* files and the the irrelevant D.* files.

 o The receiving site runs a program from cron to pass the incoming D.*
   files to rnews.

I will be happy to give out copies of the relevant programs.

--apb
Alan Barrett, Dept. of Electronic Eng., Univ. of Natal, Durban, South Africa
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From: pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: CNews Problem
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:55:26 GMT
Organization: The College on the Other Side of U. S. 1

Suddenly, I've been getting messages like the following:

From root Tue Nov 17 20:35 EST 1992
>From root Tue Nov 17 20:35:12 1992
Received: by mccc.edu (smail2.5/bdb)
	id AA23635; Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:35:12 EST (-0500)
Usage:  basename [ path [ suffix-pattern ] ]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:35:12 EST (-0500)
From: System Administrator <root@mccc.edu>
Message-Id: <9211172035.AA23635@mccc.edu>
To: root
Status: RO


*************************************************
Cron: The previous message is the standard output
      and standard error of one of your cron commands.


At the time, cron has just finished running a Cnews command. I grepped
through the source code and it looks like the only place that "basename"
is called is in "spacefor." So I commented out that section, but to no
avail.

Nothing has changed in my system that I know of, except that my feed has
cut back on the groups he's been sending.

Any ideas??

Pete
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Subject: Re: short numbers in active?
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:36:46 GMT

news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator) writes:

>I know this one comes up fairly frequently, but I don't remember the answer.
>My problem can be summarized by the following from the errlog file:

>relaynews: article number (100000) too big for group `junk' active field of 5 digits
>relaynews: can't file in junk group; is it absent from active?

>How do I increase the length of the numbers in active?  (For now, I'm just
>going to lock news, then manually increase the entry for junk, but there
>_must_ be a better way.)

To answer my own question - this is what I did (modulu screwing up my
active file twice):
  locknews
  vi active
  :g/^[^ ]/s/^\([^ ][^ ]*\) \([0-9][0-9]*\)/\1 0000\2/
  ZZ
  ^D

Any suggestions for improvement, comments, etc.
(Thanks for Mark Brader's quick response)

-- 
Paul Tomblin, News Administrator Extraordinaire.  (pt@geovision.gvc.com)
I just administer the news, I don't make or state policy.
From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Two-hop UUCP feed with C-news
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:35:25 GMT
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department

In <Bxo10M.G3I@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:
>I have set up an UUCP link over TCP between the two, assuming that I
>would only need to change the viauux script so it did 
>``exec uux - -r -gd uucp_host!$1!rnews'' instead of just
>``exec uux - -r -gd $1!rnews'', but I soon discovered that uux
>only allows one hop. 

This is viauuxuux (bagsend was the next hop):

#! /bin/sh
exec uux - -gd "bagsend!uux - -r ($1!rnews)"

-- 
				Christoph Badura  ---  bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org

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					IBM Rep at GUUG Symposium '92
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: moraes@deshaw.com (Mark Moraes)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Cnews logfile eaters
Organization: D. E. Shaw & Co.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:02:57 GMT

kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:
>Does anyone have a ftp site where scripts that digest the Cnews logs
>exist?  I have a whole bunch for Bnews and now that I've switched
>to Cnews... I'd rather not re-write them!

Try ftp.cs.toronto.edu:/pub/news.  Caveat: I haven't tested any of those
scripts with the performance release yet, but they all ran fine on previous
releases.

	Mark.
Newsgroups: news.software.b,comp.sys.3b1
From: afc@shibaya.lonestar.org
Subject: HELP!!! extremely weird problem with relaynews. (performance release)
Summary: Problems getting Cnews up (relaynews)
Keywords: cnews 3b1 unixpc relaynews
Reply-To: afc@shibaya.lonestar.org
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:19:12 GMT

[ This article re-posted by hand at hico2 ]

I hope someone has come across this problem and solved it.  First the
story:  at first I could get news just fine but couldn't post, then after
re-installation, I could post locally but local postings never went out and
all the incoming batches ended up in .../in.coming/bad as *.Z.t files.  No
amount of putting them back in .../in.coming would get them processed.
Then I started seeing 

	relaynews: unknown sysflag `j' given

in the mail cnews sends.

I tried recompiling with cc, gcc, ccc and ggg.  The make r regression test
in cnews/relay apparently passes without any message after "comparing output".

I tried an executable of relaynews compiled on a different system with an
apparently working cnews.  Same thing.  Then I tried this, after su'ing to
news in /usr/spool/news/in.coming:

	cat <batch-number>.Z.t | /usr/lib/newsbin/relay/relaynews -n

I get the following message:

	/usr/lib/newsbin/relay/relaynews: unknown sysflag `j' given

What the hell is going on?  I certainly didn't give any j flag.  I tried
re-booting: nothing.  I tried giving relaynews no options at all: same
problem.  I went through the known.problems files and fixed what needed
to be fixed for it to even compile.

Any help will be greatly appreciated: build.def options (although I think I
got those right), or anything at all.

Please respond by mail as I can't unbatch my rapidly filling .../in.coming/bad
directory.  I am thoroughly disgusted by now, after having spent the whole
weekend compiling and recompiling, testing and retesting, etc...  I should
have stuck with the ancient version that at least used to work fine...

Thanks, I'll summarize.

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From: newsmgr@vax1.utulsa.edu (Beelzebub)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: MARK problem
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:33:46 CST
Organization: The University of Tulsa

In article <1992Nov16.154312.1460@vax1.utulsa.edu>,
newsmgr@vax1.utulsa.edu (Beelzebub) writes: 
> I'm having problems with the MARK command in ANU NEWS V6.03. [...]

Never mind.  I just saw Bob's post.  Thank you. 
-- 
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! Computing and Information Resources   *   dimension."                       
! newsmgr@vax1.utulsa.edu               *   --Oliver Wendell Holmes
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Setting up news, can't create newsgroups
From: "Nancy Worth, Division of Medical Computing" <WORTH@MEDAC.MED.UTORONTO.CA>
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:11:23 -0500
Reply-To: "Nancy Worth, Division of Medical Computing"<WORTH@MEDAC.MED.UTORONTO.CA>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"ANU-NEWS@VM1.NoDak.edu"

Hello, I finally got everything together and ran NEWS for the first
time.  Part of the installation instructions say to create/local control
and junk.  Well, I type in "create newsgroups control/local" and no
matter what I type in response to "Create Newsgroup? [n]:" I get
"Info: Create - No newsgroup created" (Yes, I have tried y Y yes YES T etc)
I'm running NEWS V6.0-3 with glass patch.  The NEWSMGR account has SYSPRV
and the NEWSMANAGER identifier.  The NNTP server is accepting commands from
me.  Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks in advance, Nancy.
--
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Medical Computing, Fac. of Medicine, Univ. of Toronto, Toronto ON Canada M5S 1A8
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: MARK and Infinite note retention
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:50:28 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Nov13.155127.66@dymaxion.ns.ca>, bg@dymaxion.ns.ca writes:
>    Unfortunately, when I tried the MARK command, it seemed to have a bug
>    in it.  "MARK" wouldn't mark my current item, "MARK Hold #" would not
>    mark item number "#" with the "Hold" mark.  In fact, the only command
>    that did seem to work was "MARK Hold *" to mark all items with the
>    "Hold" mark.  Bummer.  The error message I kept getting was "MARK no
>    item specified".  What gives?  Has this been fixed?

This bug has been fixed for about two years now.  Get the V6.0-3
patches available from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu.
-- 
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E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Availability of version 6.1xxx?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:49:26 -0800
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Nov16.123701.1055@mala.bc.ca>, dunnett@mala.bc.ca (Malcolm Dunnett) writes:
> 
>   What is the current version of 6.1, where is it available from and is
> it relatively stable now ( ie worth installing for those of us who haven't
> got much time to hunt bugs but really want the latest and greatest version
> of NEWS )

The most current version is 6.1 beta 5 and is available from sao.aarnet.edu.au
in the [.anu-news] subdirectory.  If you don't want bugs, don't put it up. 
It's a beta release - beta releases have bugs and 6.1B5 is no exception.  Some
bugs may be unbearable for your users (things like the SEARCH command and
READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP skipping over newsgroups and NNTP generating a mountain of
OPCOM messages).

I'm running 6.1B5 for my NEWSMGR account and a couple of internal users. I
don't feel it's ready for prime-time yet although it's getting closer.

-- 

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EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
From: quodling@stimpy.enet.dec.com
Subject: Anunews on Alpha AXP!
Organization: SPR Alpha Migration Centre
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:49:48 GMT

Just thought I'd let all you avid anu-news-ers know that ANU-news run just
fine on an Alpha AXP DEC 3000 Model 500 (Code Flamingo). The port of the code
took about an hour all told, (Mainly tidying up things that the Alpha C
Compiler gets fussy about), and it appears to run quite fast...

This was done with 6.1b5, and I'll be feeding the necessary mods back to Geoff.

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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: RFC-822 dates ? Smaller NEWS database ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:52:21 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Nov15.165704.38@ittpub.nl>, david@ittpub.nl writes:
> Our newsfeed complained that we weren't sending RFC-822 dates in our news
> item headers. But I can't see how to force News to change its default behaviour.
> Apparently some sites will refuse our items as a result. Can anyone advise ?

You are apparently running a very old version of NEWS. Current
versions all create RFC compliant dates.
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Duplicate groups in skim
From: rz80999@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (Cristy James)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 10:49 EST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lilly Research Laboratories
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 19

I am seeing something in my nightly skim job that I don't understand.  The
command that I use is: skim /nofilecheck/noserved/history=7 *.*

Everything in the logfile seems fine until I get to the skim/newsgroups
section.  In this section EVERY GROUP is listed TWICE!  I don't understand
where this is coming from.  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I look at to resolve this?

Please respond via email to Cristy@Lilly.com.   THANKS!


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From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: follow/reply bug with reply addresses
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:18:02 -0800
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

I've noticed an intermittent bug in 6.1B5 with the followup/reply command. 
Ocassionaly, the reply address is a single : instead of the full e-mail
address.  From looking at the article headers, I haven't figured out the
difference between ones that work and ones that don't.  Has anyone else noticed
this problem or is it on the list of known problems?  It's obviously a new bug
since 6.0-3 didn't have this command...

-- 

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EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412