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From: warnock@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Subject: Re: Hackneyed/cliches
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Hughes STX - NASA/NCDS
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.110412.19585@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes...
>  Hackneyed truisms and cliches make up about 85% (mas o menos)
>of C&W. Or else it wouldn't sell. (I've been playing this stuff

Well... I prefer to call them "a turn of a phrase", but no denying the 
appeal.  Of course, it's why I like singing it, too. <g>

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From: ault@caen.engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:55:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Apr10.014406.11510@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>
>Well, the response has been far greater than I anticipated, so I'll add
>another couple of candidates:
>
>"Ruthless" / Statler Brothers.  Hook is that he had a girl named Ruth; she
>                                left him, so now he is, naturally, Ruthless.
>                                Proof that even great performers can fall
>                                victim to album deadlines.

Another song that I always grouped along with "Ruthless" was "You Can't Have
Your Kate and Edith Too", also by the Statler Bros.  About two friends, one
who falls in love with Edith, the other with Kate, and the one who's with
Kate keeps hitting on Edith as well, much to the first friend's distress...

In the Statler Bros. defense, it was off an early album.

And then, just yesterday, I head on the radio:  "I'm going to hire a wino to
decorate our home."  ("Artist" unknown.)  Much too pathetic for words.

-matt

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|-------------------------|the sun that is the source of all our power..." -MP|
From: gilbert@CS.ColoState.EDU (brian david gilbert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Suzy Bogguss' "Aces"
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:02:09 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <32301@darkstar.ucsc.edu> indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider) writes:
>  Okay, now I'm intrigued.  I really liked "Outbound Plane" and "Someday Soon" 
>too. The only reason I haven't thought about buying the album is that "Outbound
>Plane" veers very close to "pop" music, with the fast drums, high hats, and
>piano backing her up.  I like that song, but are the rest of the songs on the
>album like that too, or are there more "traditional" country-sounding songs?
>What other artists would you compare Suzy Bogguss with?
>  PS - does she write any of her music or play any instruments on _Aces_?

     Suzy did have a hand in writing one song on the album called 'Yellow
River Road' with Doug Crider.  It would be classed as a ballad I think.
She doesn't play any instruments on the album but with a voice like that
who cares!  As far as who I would compare her to, Patty Loveless comes to
mind.

     Greg - Thanks for the info about her first 2 albums, I'll try ordering
the first one for now.  Thanks again.

     Here's another hint on the Ropin' the Wind mystery message.  Take the
highlighted letters on the back or inside cover and unscramble them into
a message.

Brian Gilbert


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From: indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Hackneyed/cliches
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:37:07 GMT


In <1992Apr16.110412.19585@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
>Hey, buckarooss and buckarettes,
>  Hackneyed truisms and cliches make up about 85% (mas o menos)
>of C&W. Or else it wouldn't sell. (I've been playing this stuff
>since the '60s as a sprat in Texas; the audiences  DON'T want
>anything *startlingly new*, just gussy up the same old, same old)

  Well, I've only been listening to country since about 1989, and I
DO want something startlingly new.  I think I'd like country a lot
more if the number of cliched "tear-in-my-beer" songs was far less.
Sure, I chuckle now and then at one of those idioms turned inside-
out, but one clever catch phrase does NOT make a song.  I guess it's
just a matter of taste, though...
  While I'm complaining about noxious reactionary patterns in C&W, 
it would also be nice if there was a little less sexism in country
music.  Seems like even the female artists are singing about domestic
bliss, the joys of housewifery, and other American myths.  
  How 'bout it?  Are there others out there in r.m.c.w. land who
want something new?

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             "Your actions will follow you full circle 'round..."
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Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 13:18:41 CDT
From: greg woods <MV012841@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Austin Encore

    For anyone who is curious, starting this friday TNN is starting
 a show called Austin Encore, which is the best of Austin City Limits.
 It is on at 10:30 eastern time. Thier first guest will be Micheal
 Martin Murphy. It sounds like it will be a weekly series. My only
 problem is that it is on at the same time as the regular Austin
 City Limits, thank god for VCR's. :):):)
    Please don't flame me, I am just offering this little bit of info
to those who like watching Austin City Limits,

Greg

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From: warnock@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:55:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: nssdca.7APR199213551172
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes STX - NASA/NCDS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr7.172701.15373@cis.ohio-state.edu>, goelz@perch.cis.ohio-state.edu (christopher k goelz) writes...
>"I Got the Horse and You Got the Saddle"
>or maybe it is "You Got the Horse and I Got the Saddle"
>Artist I don't know.

Boy, that's a real stinker, for sure.  It was Mel Tillis.

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From: paone@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (Phil Paone)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Suzy Bogguss' "Aces"
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:40:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I loved it.  I too had only heard "Outbound Plane", which I thought
was great and "Rodeo", which I thought was OK.  I really can't think
of any other artists with whom to compare her.  The album is pretty
much split between fast paced songs, like "Outbound Plane" and slower
ballad type songs.  I think she does the up tempo songs better
then ballads (but
then with someone like Mary-Chapin Carpenter doing ballads we don't
need anyone else :-).

I thought the investment in the CD was well worth it.  I also just bought
the first CD by Ronna Reeves which I enjoy quiet a bit.

Phil
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From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re: Black Country Performers
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:39:46 GMT

Thanks to all who have answered my questions!
Charlie Pride was named by almost anyone. He indeed seems like a big star.


In article <1992Apr10.093212.28175@tcom.stc.co.uk> rap@tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter) writes:
>My email bounced, so apologies for posting this instead.

This is the first time someone had trouble mailing me. We are one of germanies
biggest hosts and world-wide known so please check with your mail installation.

-Axel
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From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: Martin guitar for sale
Reply-To: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:29:30 GMT

For sale:

1947 Martin D-18 in excellent condition.  Never drilled or modified.

$2400.  Owner has no access to e-mail, so contact:

Daryl Jones
Guitar Man
5523 E. Maple Street
Danville  IN  46122

Phone: 317-745-3225 evenings
From: bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: looking for lyrics
Date: 6 Apr 1992 23:26:21 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I heard a song on the radio last night that I'm trying to find out who
sang it, along with the title.  The chorus goes something like "too soon
but too good" (along those lines...).  It was a male singing.  

I know this isn't much to go on, but you folks have been able to come up
with information before, so......

Thanks for your help!

Beth

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From: force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com!marshall (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 04:40:11 GMT

>And then, just yesterday, I heard on the radio:  "I'm going to hire a wino to
>decorate our home."  ("Artist" unknown.)  Much too pathetic for words.

What! This is a classic! How can you call it pathetic? It's David Frizzell.
Just listen to these lyrics :

"She said instead of family quarrels
We'll have a barroom brawl
When the Hamm's Bear says it closing time
You won't have far to crawl..."

Great song!

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From: ault@caen.engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault)
Subject: Re: Lyrics request: "Delta Dawn"
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 92 12:48:04 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <Ryg+fgC@engin.umich.edu> ault@caen.engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault) writes:
>In article <8dqoMCO00WBKQ3VGRB@andrew.cmu.edu> Tara Marie Seman <ts2t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>The Statler Brothers did a version of Delta Dawn! Do you know what album
>>it's on? My father is a big Statler Brothers fan, and I know he doesn't
>>have that song on any of his albums. Thanks.
>
>I can't recall the exact album title.  It's something like "Symphony in
>E-major" (yes, really).

I checked up on this, and the title is "The Statler Brothers Sing Country
Symphonies in E-major", released in 1972.  My mom seemed to think that this
wasn't the only album that they had released Delta Dawn on, so you might check
the rest of their older albums if you can't find "Sympnonies".  Good luck!

-matt




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From: awh@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Alan Hatley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: hot country nights
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:33:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts1.ebay.sun.com

i haven't read this group for about a month, so i don't know if this
subject has been covered.  but.....has hot country nights been canceled, or
are they just taking a break?

alan
From: rap@tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Barry & Holly Tashian in London
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:15:42 GMT
Reply-To: rap@tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited

I forsook The Highwaymen to go and see B & H on the final gig of their UK
tour at the Weavers Arms on Friday. I'd come across Barry's work on Emmylou's
records, and I think G.P.'s too, but I didn't really know what to expect.
In fact they absolutely knocked me out with some superb harmonies on a wide
variety of material ranging from the Louvins to Big Bill Broonzy, not
forgetting their own songs. Barry's vocal on "Sin City" had an haunting
resemblance to Gram Parsons's original. They'd even learnt an English folk
song ("The Grey Funnel Line") for the tour.

There was some very tasty guitar work by Barry too. I didn't recognise the
guitars, though they were very similar in style to Martins, with internal
mics. They were both playing similar models but Holly on rhythm was using
nylon strings. As you can probably tell I'm not an expert!

Richard
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Subject: Something new?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 12:21:27 GMT


All I want out of C&W music is a new (old) pickup truck and 
access to the river. There is (probably) some sort of NewAge
(rhymes with sewage) C&W, but it won't make the C&W charts.
Back in Austin, in the halcyon days of the '70s (Marcia Ball
as Frieda of Freida and the Firedogs, Texas Flatlanders, etc)
there was a rad/feminist C&W group that did dynamite versions
of these songs that are deemed *SEXIST*. They were called
Vernell Pratt and the Soeur Queens and boy were they butch.
Made KD Lang look like Wynona Judd.
  That'll knock yer hat in the creek.
-- 
Ted....
From: warnock@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:19:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes STX - NASA/NCDS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr17.000918.19250@ctr.columbia.edu>, shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin) writes...
>How about George's, "He stopped loving her today"?  Or, "I know that my
>life's been a failure, just watchin' the bubbles in my beer."  Or, "I'm
>gonna be drinkin' and drivin' that woman right off my mind."  Or (George
>again), "I'll be over you when the grass grows over me." Or, "You'll be
>someone who's born to lose, cause I need someone like me, to ho-wo-wo-wold
>onto."  Or.... 
> 
>If you're against codependence and unhealthy attitudes, you'd better
>switch newsgroups and/or radio stations!

Amen, brother.  It's a large part of what country is all about.  People
actually find themselves feeling that way in real life, and the songs
are about things they can relate to.  They way things are, not
necessarily the way we'd like them to be.  It's definitely not music for
the "politically correct".  Like they say - Rock-and-roll is for your
first love, country music is for your 10th. 

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From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: MARTIN GUITAR FOR SALE
Reply-To: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:39:45 GMT




                                For sale:

   1947 Martin D-18 in excellent condition.  Never drilled or modified.

   $2400.  Owner has no access to e-mail, so contact:

   Daryl Jones
   5523 E. Maple Street
   Danville  IN  46122

   Phone: 317-745-3225 evenings
From: geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Motel Time Again?
Keywords: Johnny Paycheck c. 1969
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:01:28 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA

Anyone out there on the Net who can help me get a copy of "Motel Time 
Again?" This is an old Johnny Paycheck side I heard on Eddie Stubbs' show
on WAMU-FM in DC about six months ago and haven't been able to find
since. All I know is the last line:

      Then I'll go just like before / To that number on the door
      And then I'm home / It's motel time again....

Post to the newsgroup or send an Email, it doesn't matter. I read both.

     :{"}:  Geffry King, Bassist/Librarian/Songwriter
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From: uuwayne@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Wayne Stopak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: RE: Garth's secret message
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:58:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: venus.9APR199209581108
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


                 O God Bless Us

The "O" comes from the highlighted letter on the front of the CD cover.



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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: Black Country Performers
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:12:26 GMT

In article <H8610HC@netmbx.netmbx.de> fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
>Charlie Pride was named by almost anyone. He indeed seems like a big star.

Well, of *course* he is!  He even appears in the famous David Allen Coe 
song that (eventually) becomes the "perfect country and western song".
David sings:

  "You don't have to call me Charlie Pride..."

Regards, Lee
From: willie@amalthea.osf.org (William Williams)
Subject: Re: Peter Stampfel/Holy Modal Rounders
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:50:00


>In response to those folks who were asking about Stampfel's whereabouts,
>I can confirm that he is definitely still alive & making music.  He's
>released two albums with the Bottlecaps -- the first, on Rounder, was
>sort of demented country music; the second, "People's Republic of
>Rock & Roll" on Homestead, is more rock (as the title suggests), with
>less of Peter's fiddle but just as much of his offbeat humor.  The
>Bottlecaps are working on a third album, and Peter's also at work on 
>a solo album consisting of covers of '30s and '40s pop tunes.

This is all good news for me.  I was just listening to the Rounder
record last night.  I would be disappointed if the Homestead record
totally got away from country (but I'll try to find it, anyway).  I 
really like the funky bottom and country top of the Rounder record.  
These guys remind me (in their eclecticism) of NRBQ, but with country,
rather than jazz influences.  The Stampfel solo project sounds intriguing.

Are the Bottlecaps Manhattan-based?  Do they ever tour?
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Subject: Indian classical music concert at Purdue
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:21:40 GMT

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<         --------------------------------------------
<                    PRESENTS A FLUTE RECITAL
<                            BY
<                      DR. N. RAMANI
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<A.KANYAKUMARI (VIOLIN)              GURUVAYUR DORAI (MRIDANGAM)
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			FLUTE: An indian wind instrument
			MRIDANGAM: An indian percussion instrument
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<DATE: TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992         TIME: 7.30 PM
<VENUE: NORTH BALLROOM, PURDUE MEMORIAL UNION
<       WEST LAFAYETTE, IN 47907
<
<TICKETS: $7 (STUDENTS), $10 (OTHERS)
<         AVAILABLE AT
<         LOEB AND HALL OF MUSIC OFFICES
<FOR TICKET INFO CALL (317) 494 3933

 NOTE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LAFAYETTE:
 1.Overnight accomodation can be arranged for a max. of 10 persons; let
 us know in advance (email to ramakril@vm.cc.purdue.edu)
 2. Preferably reserve your tickets in advance
 3. Children below 10 will not be permitted
 4. Directions -

Take I65 (South /North) and exit at State Road 25
After the ramp take a left onto 25 South towards
Lafayette.
At the first Trafic Lights (TL) take a right onto
US 52 West
Keep going on US 52 W, pass two TL
On the third TL take a left onto Yeager Rd.
(At this light you should see a Amoco gas station
just ahead of you and ACE Hard Ware Store on your right)
Take a left onto North Western on the next TL
Keep going on North Western. You should see Smittys on
your left after passing the first TL. After this TL
pass one more TL. On the third TL, you should see a McD
on your left and University Buildings on your right.
You are now on the intersection of North Western and
Stadium.

Pass the next TL and take a right onto State St on the
second TL.
Take a right onto Grant St. on the next TL and park in the
garage on your right, which is right after you make the
turn.
North Ball room is in the Purdue Memorial Union
which is opposite to the garage.

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