HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet questions (prices etc.)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> *** Urban legend alert ****
->
-> No law was ever passed banning black helmets.  [in Australia]


 This was reported as fact in Two Wheels, back around 1982.

 I'm glad it was an editorial problem, and not an actual law, though.


* DoD #978 * Cthulhu in '92 - why settle for the lesser of two evils?
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ERC vs. rain
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:09:11 GMT
	<1992Jul21.151136.19404@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
	<1992Jul21.135207@is.morgan.com>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: spgo@is.morgan.com's message of 21 Jul 92 17:52:07 GMT

>>>>> On 21 Jul 92 17:52:07 GMT, spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) said:
Stefan> Um, my brain may be shot, but I could have sworn that I did the same
Stefan> excercises in the ERC as in the MRC:RSS. (Well ok, the last third

There is a lot of confusion regarding the MSF's ERC curriculum.  The
reason for this is historical, but that is another story.  Hopefully,
this will help clarify things (if your brain isn't shot, that is) :-).

The "original ERC" was called the Better Biking Program (or BBP for
short).  When the MRC:RSS was developed, the Motorcycle Safety
Foundation adopted the second half (Level II) as a replacement for the
BBP.  This was the so-called "Interim ERC" because it was meant to be
an interim solution while a new ERC curriculum was being developed.

The full ERC was released a couple (few) years ago.  It consists of
more than 3 1/2 hours of new classroom lessons and twelve range
exercises (mostly new).  Because of the larger motorcycles and faster
speeds involved, the minimum-sized range for the ERC is larger than
the minimum for the MRC:RSS.

Sites which could not offer the new ERC range exercises because they
did not have enough space either continued to offer the Interim
ERC, or combined the new classroom curriculum with the MRC:RSS level
II range exercises.  The MSF recognized that the "Interim ERC" would
continue to serve a purpose and renamed it the "Optional ERC".  The
same course completion cards are used for either course.

Site administrators rarely know or care if they are offering the
optional or new ERC curriculae.  The only way to find out for certain
is to actually know what exercises are involved.  One group of
exercises which are only in the new ERC use a setup of two swerve
gates, an arc, and four swerve gates.  You swerve once (to the right)
and stop.  Then, you continue around and swerve three more times
through all four gates.  The last gates are closer together than the
first.  In another exercise, there are three turning gates.  You get a
signal (1, 2 or 3) as you approach the turn and have to slow
sufficiently to negotiate a smooth arc through the indicated gate.

If you saw anything like either of these exercises, it was a new ERC
range.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks)
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
    <1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com> 
    <1992Jul24.184754.13996@colorado.edu> <4wjml1k.edg@netcom.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:14:15 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
>Any comment on I64 between St. Louis and Norfolk VA?
>I've been told that the Kentucky part is quite scenic.  

Scenic, is the word.
It's not spectacular like what you might see around the Rockies,
but it quite nice.  I am on I64 all the time and never get bored with it.
The traffic is relatively light.

Some parts are good for Official DoD Speed Limits (tm).
-- 
 Clayton T. Brooks       _,,-^`--.   From the heart          cbrooks@ms.uky.edu
 722 POT U o'Ky    .__,-'    *    \   of the blue           cbrooks@ukma.bitnet
 Lex. KY 40506   _/              ,/    grass and   {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!cbrooks
 606-257-6807   (__,-----------''   bourbon country    AMA NMA MAA AMS ACBL DoD
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:54:35 GMT
Summary: trinkets

In article <1992Jul24.182620.16771@balrog.dseg.ti.com>, keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.171423.5876@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
> >Sturgis HD
> >sells only T-Shirts (and trinkets).
> >
> >- Roid
> 
> BBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT
> 
> Sorry, but the Sturgis HD also sells leathers, and accessories (ie chrome &
> tires).  We were there last week.  They even had 3 HDs on the floor but I
> think they were for show only.  One was supposedly Willie G's original Sturgis.

I suppose you can call leathers & accessories "trinkets" if your wallet 
is well endowed.  It isn't a motorcycle dealership in any case.  The
bike in the window (when I was there last month) was last year's black 
Dynaglide.  There was also a big panhead next to the original Sturgis.

> Oh yea.  And I got a great 52nd anniversary Sturgis T-shirt at the 
> Ben Franklin across the street.  Only 3 weeks early.

Does it have the HD logo on it?  When I was there, there were plenty of
T-shirt sales going on, but they were all fakes, i.e., not the "official"
T-shirt.  

BTW, the *real* HD dealership in Rapid City has some neat displays of
Jerry Branch goodies right out on the showroom floor.  They make superb
exhibits of precision machine and finishing work. 

Did you visit the Bob Pasker Memorial R100G/S Hill Climb Crater?

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:55:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

Well, I cooled off some over the weekend.  My intent when I first 
posted *was* to maximize the P.O.edness of the recipient, but on further
consideration, I decided that's not a good idea.  There are enough people
with a bad attitude toward motorcyclists already.   I still think the idea
is a good one, but the delivery system needs work.  How about walking up 
to the motorist and with excruciating politeness saying, "Excuse me, would 
you consider assisting with my campaign for motorcycle safety by affixing 
this to your vehicle's bumper?  Thank you very much, and have a nice day." 
Of course, finding this much control a near-collision would be difficult.

    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:53:54 GMT

3-M makes all kinds of neat stuff that reflects light
and all have tape or sticky backings. Also the cy-light's
are handy to have around in red, orange, or green and can
be hooked on to a good line and twirrled. Once you get the 
first couple of cars or bikes stopped they can put on their
4-ways (cars are better cause they can idle longer).
For the really stubborn people set 2 claymores daisy chained
to gether at either end of the accident at least 50 meters away,
connect with det cord and an ignitor. Set in middle of road
facing UP, it should stop them effectively and provide sufficient
illumination from ruptured gas tanks to last the duration.
Also Helos have a tendency to like to come in to a cleared
LZ, use a white or reflective 15 foot long X to guide in.
Also dont approach from the rear it get the pilot pissed off.
Oh yea dont put the X near any wires or overhead branches
rotors are expensive and the pieces will clear an area too.
-- 
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                 and TARGETS !!!
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#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I DONT CARE IF I SOUND CONFUSED, I KNOW WHAT I MEAN !!!
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:12:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <txd.711736149@Able.MKT.3Com.Com>, txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
> egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> 
> >In article 61@oregon.uoregon.edu, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
> >>
> >>A Harley, is a Harley, is a Harley!  
> 
> >Unless it's a Buell.
> 
> Ed, this is *YOUR* distinction, not that of the "pro rec.moto.harley"
> ites. This is *YOUR* prejudice, and I/we do not agree  with it.






 
What's this _we_ shit?  Is a Bimota Dieci a Yamaha?  Is a Tesi a
Ducati? Is a Ford Taurus SHO a Yamaha?  Is a Stealth a Mitsubishi?
(Well, forget that one, anway.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale,ba.market.vehicles,ba.market.misc,wanted,forsale
From: miguele@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Miguel Encarnacao)
Subject: Motorcycle for sale: '79 SUZUKI GS425-N
Keywords: motorcyle, burgundy, sale, suzuki, bike
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:43:44 GMT



It breaks my heart: Going back to Germany and can't take my
                    bike with me.
A great opportunity for you:


                 >>> THIS WEEK ONLY <<<

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| For sale:     '79 SUZUKI GS425-N        $875 o.b.o        |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's a beauty ! :

Condition:	TOP
		runs and looks great
		excellent brakes
		doesn't need any work
		very reliable - never let me down
		spoke wheels
		oil and oil-filter change every 1500 miles
		  since bought (7500 miles)
		drives about 45 miles/gallon

Mileage:	12.5k

Color:		burgundy

Accessories:	2 locks (1 large Kryptonite U-lock)
		original (brand new) spoke set for rear wheel

If needed:	Helmets (Size 6 or 7); $45 each

-------------------------------------------------------------

If you are interested e-mail or call Miguel at:

	(work)	(510) 642-4274 ext. 185
	or
	(home)	(510) 465-1930

Miguel Encarnacao.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Miguel Encarnacao          | ICSI                             |
| miguele@icsi.berkeley.edu  | International Computer Science   |
|                            | Institute                        |
| office: (510) 642-4274-185 |                                  |
| fax:    (510) 643-7684     | 1947 Center Street Suite 600     |
|                            | Berkeley, CA 94704               |
| home:   (510) 465-1930     | USA                              |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: OIL DRAIN PLUG IS STU
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RCR
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:34:23 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <4610@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:

>Ed, where were the awards for Male/Female Ironbutts? My wife and I did
>1050 miles getting there, and were not even publicly ridiculed!! If you
>expect us to do that again, then we expect a bronzed pillow or something .-)
>Also, my wife wants an award for most miles on a single cylinder! .-)

Why is it that the only people I know who own big singles are women?  
Maybe those vibrations are irresistible. :-)
Sorry Jack.

>My wife and I enjoyed meeting you all, and are looking forward to the next
>DOD event.

I had a great time meeting everyone, also.

Jack - The pictures of you and Jackie at the swimming hole came out 
good. Send me your address.  (USE E-MAIL!!)

Mark, cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil
-- 
 Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
 cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (410) 267-2147
Date: Friday, 31 Jul 1992 15:49:57 EDT
From: <U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
 <1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com> <22778@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
                                                                               s

>In the Mid atlantic region, the stretch from Morgantown WVa to Fairmont
>WV is a lot of fun.  I don't have a map, but I think its on I-70.  They
>moved mountains to make that road.
>
>I recall driving it about 15 years ago when it was relatively new.
>I had to slow down on the sweepers just enough to stop the tire squeal.
>Good fun. Plus, its out in the sticks, so no cops.

>Mark
>cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil
>--
> Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
> cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (410) 267-2147


Not any more, the stretch has plenty of cops, but is still a nice
interstate.   My vote would be for 64 between route 19 in WV and interstate
81 in maryland.  Wonderful scenery and great curves.
************************************************************
Gary J. Edwards            |  '82 V45 Sabre
West Virginia University   |
Morgantown, WV             |
U2EF5@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU      |   (304)293-3422 ext. 401
DoD#0615                   |
From: erika@znext.uucp (erik astrup)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Justice!
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:39:46 GMT
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) writes:

: P.S.  Yes I won my case, amazing!

 So what was your case??? Anytime someone wins at traffic court, I want to
know how they did it!!!

                    
            |---------------------------------------------------|
            |                Erik Astrup  AFM #422              |
	    |							|
	    |        "This one goes to eleven." Nigel Tufnel    |
	    |							|
            |  1993 CBR 900RR			  1990 CBR 600  |
	    |  1988  NX 650 			  1980 GL 1100  |
	    |---------------------------------------------------|
			
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Venison for Ride and Feed
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:35:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.000112.23168@cco.caltech.edu> ridgway@cco.caltech.edu (Alex Ridgway) writes:
>scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>>	You may joke, but in my hometown state of Idaho they serve roadkilled
>>	venison in jail. In fact, you are required to sign a waiver when
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>	you are tossed in jail, absolving the state of any responsibility if
>>	you get sick off their roadkill food. Don't ask how I know (let's just
>>	say a friend is no longer so into the idea of DoD nominal limits :-()
>
>  Uh, how exactly does this work?  If you refuse to sign, do they
>throw you in jail?  Or do they not allow you to go to jail... ?

	No, you just don't get to eat while you're in jail. Whether this is
	a positive or negative aspect remains open to discussion...

=Stanley, Idaho===============Sea-Bass Sears====================New York City=
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 _/\_>       Just ride!|             o /            ||~~~~~~\___       4Runner
O,> /O   e-mail: scs8@ |  ~^~^ <====<\/====> ^~^    ||_--____--_)   Just about
cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |Just  ~^~^~^ / ^~^~^  kayak!|  ()    () anything else!
   Send lawyers, guns, and money, the shit has hit the fan. -- Warren Zevon
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:43:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.131757.22215@rchland.ibm.com> 
Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  writes:
>I'm proposing we start a sticker campaign like the one I read about 
>from a group of disabled people.  What they do is if someone without a 
>permit is found in a handicapped parking zone they slap a sticker that 
>says something like, "I Park Illegally in Handicap Parking Zones!" on 
>the car's bumper.
>
>The Minnesota Dept. of Public Safety makes large yellow stickers with an
>outline of a motorcyclist and "Start Seeing Motorcycles!" in bold letters. 
>I think that would be an ideal message for the car I encountered yesterday
>to be carring today.  I would like to start a campaign that whenever 
>someone does stuff like that their car starts carrying that message.  Don't
>confront the person; just follow the car and when no one else is watching,
>slap on the sticker.  

I like the idea of a two-sided "bumper sticker" to be affixed to the exterior
of the windshield at the driver's eye-level.  This bumper sticker should be
imprinted with eye-catching flourescent colors.  I want *everybody* to see
this sticker.  I don't know if I want the adhesive to be the easy-peel type,
or the concrete-super-glue type.  You make less enemies with the easy-peel
type and probably don't get in trouble with laws concerning defacing property.

What should the sticker say?  On the interior-view side: "Learn to Observe
Motorcycles!", "You Endangered A Motorcyclist!", or "Start Seeing Motorcycles!"
On the exterior-view side: "WARNING: I DRIVE BY BRAIL."  You got it folks...
blind as a bat, and collision-prone to boot.

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu       "Ineluctably Prolix" - John Norman Sims, Jr.
Come an' get it!  Served up nice an' *hot*!!  Get yer FREEEEE *logorhea*!!!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Re: Catalogs, &c.
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:27:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

This information comes from a past post, not my own experience:

Langlitz Leathers
2443 SE Division
Portland, Oregon
(503)235-0959

> >
> Vanson Leathers in Quincy, MA has the best leather catalog I have ever
> seen.  Langlitz Leathers of ?Washington state has a nice catalog.
> I just got the Corbin catalog.  They have some good stuff.
> 

             ==================================================
            // Pat Loughery [Patlo@Microsoft.com] Seattle, WA \\
+==========//'91 Nighthawk CB750 || DoD #393, AMA #639366, VME \\==========+
| Evaluating for post-January purchase: Duc 907ie; HD FXRT & FLHS; FJ1200  |
+==========================================================================+
|  "It felt great to be starting another long ride; the 9-to-5 world       |
|  could go to hell for a few days while my machine and I rolled across    |
|  the planet."   - Phil Stone, DoD #95                                    |
+==========================================================================+
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Help me with my seat, please!
Summary: I have been vandalized.
Date: 20 Jul 92 16:26:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	My FJ1200 was parked behind my girlfreind's condo Saturday
night.  That morning, there was an ugly slash from the front left side
of the seat to the back.  (My girlfriend is lucky enough to live near
a really skeezy section on New Brunswick with drunks aplenty walking
around with sharp things).  How much can I expect to pay to put a new
cover on the seat?   Can I do it myself?  How?  Help!

							Kevin Kretz
							DoD#3278
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Triumph questions
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 26 Jul 92 11:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> racing rods installed.  The crank is way out of balance with this
-> setup.  Does anyone know where I can have the crank balanced?  My
-> service manual shows a method balancing the crank using parallel
-> knife edge rails and 650 gm weights on the rod journals.  Does anyone
-> balance these things dynamically?

 Try these people:

Lunati                          cams, cranks
PO Box 18021
Memphis TN 38181-0021
901-365-0950

 One problem:  Your Triumph probably wasn't 100% balanced to start with.
With no counterweights at all, your vibration is primarily vertical, in
line with the pistons.  As you add counterweights you change the vector
of the vibration (it gets real complex here, OK?  This is the Reader's
Digest Condensed Version).  Back inna old days, Triumph, Norton, et al
often "balanced" their engines by fiddling with the counterweights,
riding a while, fiddling, etc, until the *perceived* vibration was
minimized at cruise.

 If you have the crank balanced at 100% you will have minimized the
internal stresses, but the engine *may* feel rougher than it did to
start with.

=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
=======================================================================
From: awk@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (alan.w.kappler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Deer Kill
Keywords: Whistles
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:34:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Just a note amidst all this talk about deers: I recently went out shopping
for those little anti-deer whistles that mount on your bike to scare away
accidents. Everyone I talked to, including some people who had these
whistles, swore that they worked AND only used one whistle. Well,
they've just been lucky. 

I called the company who makes the whistle -- because of my mechanical
ineptitude -- and they told me that you MUST USE BOTH whistles, or 
nothing happens. Each one creates a tone that generates some sort of
harmonic dissonance to frighten away animals. Where do you put two on
a motorcycle (one would have fit fine on the front fender)? I put mine
on the front turn signal housings. 

So far I haven't been killed by a deer -- although a racoon took a run at
me the other night, veering off at the last second.