HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arunki@uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu (Arun Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: G.C. Thru Marriage to an American Citizen
Date: 14 Apr 1992 02:25:47 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: uirvld.csl.uiuc.edu


suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu (Swaminathan Sureshchandran) writes:

[Stuff deleted]

>Indians are much less organised in speech than others, and generally just 
>ramble on with their ideas. I have had a few Indian students under me, 
                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
Things that make you go, Hmmmm. :-)

Would, "working for me" be a better choice of words?

>and I notice that though they are extremely good students, they kind of 
>find it difficult to express what they want to say. Maybe we come from a 
>society which is highly non-linear, and most of the time you are never 
>saying what you mean, straight speech getting you nowhere (like pleading 

"You are never saying".....

>with TTs, fumbling in a new state with the local tongue, displaying 
>servile attitude towards those in power, etc). 
>Anyway, enough rambling for now. 

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. :-)

Arun

ps: I hope this does not start another flame war about grammer, english
    and the nuances of Indian english.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rahul@sdd.hp.com (Rahul Bhargava (Temp))
Subject: New Gujju joke
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 23:46:10 GMT


No offense to Gujurati Bhai & Bhens.

 Ques> Which Ice Cream shop does a Gujju frequent in U.S of A. ?
^L
 Ans> You guessed it. Ben & Jerry.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kuntal@algol.cs.umbc.edu (survivor)
Subject: Re: Tau Devilal
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:46:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.023322.29085@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>About Devilal.....  Culled from various different sources.
>All typos are mine
>
>
>			Tau's Tauo-data is Taups
>

excellent piece !!

more desired.

Kuntal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: axs2776@usl.edu (Subramanyam Arunkumar)
Subject: Desperately trying to add perfume to hide the stink ...
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:30:11 GMT

Hi There,

Very rarely I read the articles on the SCI and it's the same everytime,
I decide not to come back to it again. Why is it that SCI is being used
as a media for personal prejudice ? One calling another an 'Asshole', and
he calling someone a 'Bitch', the whole screen'll be full of such beautiful
words and once my Professor was surprised to see me reading it!

Anyway, here's a couple of poems to add some sweetener to the totally bitter
bread. Hope you like them, else I wont be surprised to see few more swear
words on the net because of me.



		IDEAL STUDENT
		-------------

	I am an ideal student
	And what the hell,
	I am proud of it

	I go late to the classes
	Ideal students are busy
	Always with something else

	I sit in the last benches
	Ideal students do not like
	To be noticed by the teacher

	I sleep in the classes
	Ideal students are nocturnal creatures
	They do a lot of night outs

	I dont do my homeworks
	Ideal students are brainy
	They dont like to showoff

	I get drunk very often
	Ideal students are workoholics
	They need alcohol to relax

	My teachers complain about me
	I still haven't figured out
	Why teachers can never be ideal

	But then, who cares for them
	I am ideal student,
	And yes I am proud of it
				AK(The Scorpio)





		IS THIS LOVE ?
		--------------

	That was a glorious time
	When you were with me
	For each day brought with it
	Something new for me

	I could see the heaven
	In your lovely eyes
	I would lose myself
	Going up in the skies

	We sat under the tree
	While you sang, I listened
	The emotions flowing vividly
	Making our union very divine

	We walked in the woods
	Hand in hand, spoke nothing
	When silence thriumped over
	The million words we needed

	I wish time could stop
	Did I not fear losing you ?
	The reality was cruel, we had to part
	But then, there's always a tomorrow

					AK(The Scorpio)
-- 
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	Arun Kumar S                             200 Oakcrest Drive, # F-266
Great guys do parallel processing !              Lafayette, LA - 70503.
...And they follow Me !!                         (318)237-8074
From: csv25@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Chopra M)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: help
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:24:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: uk.12967.9204081324

inability to write news ,can only read news...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.flame
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Indians Protest Libyan sanctions
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:41:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.193227.8839@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ajsingh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ajay.singh) writes:

>And why these BASTARDS and their BULLAHS did'nt do the same to that SOB of
>Libya Moammar GHADHA-bhi when the PanAm plane was blown ??
>Why ? Jama Masjid or the BULLAHS does'nt like "KATAWA BULLAHS"s effigy ??

>Vande Mathram              Jai Hind               Hinduthvatha Amar Hai.

You state your case so eloquently. You should post more often so that
the net can benefit from being exposed to your brilliant rhetoric.

George
From: An Indian Woman of the 90's
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science

I have read many debates on the net reg.
arranged vs love marriage and was amused that
Indian students are wasting their time debating
on this, when they don't practice it (love m'ge) at all.   

I find 99% of Indian men still tied to MAMA's
pallu, in other words, they DO NOT DARE to choose
their own life partner. They might freak out here
with Indian girls ( if they find someone) and with
American girls too. But finally, when it comes to
marriage, they run back home to choose possibly the
prettiest of the living dolls they see in the numerous
living rooms they visit and marry her in a couple of days.

I can attribute a couple of reasons for this:

1. These guys don't like independent women as they prefer
   DOMINATING over some docile creature who will have no
   alternative but to tag with their whims and fancies.

2. They are  terrified of the prospect of having to convince
   their parents about their choice since most parents find some
   objection to anybody their children choose in this manner.

There is also the category who are really "TOO SHY" to even 
interact with girls, whose handicap I can understand but 
the others, why are you bothering to give lame excuses for 
preferring arranged marriages ( as some of u have done). 

Hope all of you agree with me, atleast at heart.

From

An Indian Independent woman.
					
					-New User (newuser@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sidana@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ashmeet S Sidana)
Subject: Re: College students in third-world India
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:48:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.191729.24012@intelhf.hf.intel.com> kumarr@ivan.intel.com writes:

>The following article appeared in the Wall Street Journal in 1982. Much of it
>is as relevant today if not more.

and

>The British founded the University of Calcutta, the first in India, 125 years
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I believe the first in India was Nalanda University and predates
the British by several centuries.

---Ashmeet Sidana.
From: veluvali@ece.scarolina.edu (Sunil Veluvali)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR IIT-KGP PROF : ATTN AUSTRALIA
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:45:01 GMT
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science


	Hi,
		I am looking for the address of an old professer who

 previously taught at IIT, Kharagpur. His name is :

	G. Durga Prasad. 

He was an Asst. professor in the Electrical Engg. Deptt.

I guess he is teaching at Sydney University(??) now. Any

info on his whereabouts will be appreciated.

Thanx,
Sunil.

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SUNIL K. VELUVALI				veluvali@ece.scarolina.edu
211 MAIN ST., #329				Office : (803) 777 - 8979
COLUMBIA, SC 29201				Res : (803) 799-6077

How do you explain School to a higher Intelligence ?
				- T.S. Elliot 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 06:06:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.013141.9092@en.ecn.purdue.edu> surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:

>Marriage means committment.  It is a life long contract.  It is
>not like buying something because of two reasons: 1) You are dealing
>with another human being, not an object.  I mean, can you stop
>thinking about yourself, at least to some extent? 2) If you buy
>something, you can sell it later.  Get out of the situation
>(perhaps with some financial loss).  You cannot do that with marriage
>(at least the attitude should be that).

Clearly, a significant number of people do not think it is a lifelong
contract.  That should be obvious from the fact that ever increasing
numbers of people are abrogating the contract prematurely.  Isn't it
time that the contract was revised to bring it more in line with 
current practice?  Mankind has unilaterally revised the contract with
God.  Are we the same Hindus our parents, their parents were?  If I
can revise my deal with the Supreme Being, why can't I do the same
with another human being?

Finally, I don't understand how when both parties to the marriage
want out, staying together can be good for anybody.  I don't see
what spouses not being objects has to do with it.

>Why?  Is this some arbritary personal condition I am placing? NO!
>If marriage is not permanent, then what it is?  It is completely
>meaningless.  Marriage is part of family.  You cannot change who
>your parents are, you cannot change who your siblings are, and you
>cannot change who your children are.  These relationships do not

Okay, let me tell you what marriage is, according to me.  It is an
indication of one person's feelings for another now and in the near 
future.  The strength of those feelings is enough to make both persons 
feel that there is a reasonable chance that the feelings will continue 
for a few years, possibly a lot longer.  But that does not imply 
permanence.  It is not necessarily forever.

And yes, if the persons merely like each other they should just
live together without going through the rigmarole of marriage.
To sum up, marriage is an indication of feelings in the present,
not the rest of eternity.

Who said anything about children?  Are you saying marriage implies
kids?

>So how's it gonna feel when someone upgrades from you?

How would you feel when someone makes it very clear that they want
an upgrade from you but cannot because of some stupid rules.

Finally, just to reiterate my original point.  I was merely saying
that not all divorces are bad, not all are failures, not all indicate
major problems in society.  Some of them are good for all concerned,
and we should not lump them all in the same category of evils to be
eradicated from society.  This is not to say that there are not bad,
cruel, wicked, insensitive, selfish divorces.

Sanjoy Ghosh
ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: rakesh@cs.washington.edu (Rakesh Kumar Sinha)
Subject: Ek Chandni Raat (a cruise at Seattle)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:07:17 GMT

I am posting this for Charu Kalyan. Please direct *all* enquiries to
her. Her phone is listed at the end of this message. 
				Rakesh Sinha
-------------------------------------------------------------------

	The Indian Students Association of
	the University of Washington presents
	their 1992 cruise

=====================================================
	EK CHANDNI RAAT (One Moonlit Night) 
     ==========================================

Bring you and all your friends to come spend an elegant moonlit
evening aboard the Spirit of Seattle. These few hours of fun-filled
music, dancing, snacks, and door prizes while sailing the Puget Sound
will make this a night to remember.

	April 24, 1992
	8:00 pm -- 11:30 pm
 (Boarding time is 7:45 pm sharp)
	
	Spirit of Seattle
	   Pier 55

Members: $16	Non-Members: $18	After Apr 13th: $20
				         (at the door)	

   Contact CHARU KALYAN  at (w) 685 - 2242 (Guggenheim 205)
			    (h) 481 - 3170
-- 
----------------------------------------------
Rakesh Kumar Sinha 			Phone - (206)-524-1673 (h)
Dept. of Computer Sc. FR - 35		              543-5143 (w)
U. of Washington, Seattle, WA-98195	rakesh@june.cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Subject: Re: A puzzle on the negative Harmonic Series
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:45:47 CDT

>   =    (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + ...)
        - (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ...)
>   =    ZERO!! 
    
    =  ( 1/n+1 + 1/n+2 + ......), if there are n terms in the 2nd bracket. 
  There are only half as many terms in the second bracket as in the 
 first. So things ain't equal 

-PB
--------
 Guess what the next term of the series is? Or rather what the next post
 in this thread is going to be?!
Ans: " ..This does not belong to SCI..."!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu (Swaminathan Sureshchandran)
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:59:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.232722.2708@menudo.uh.edu> potturi@cs.uh.edu (Rahi Prakash Potturi) writes:
>"An Indian Independent woman" writes:
><I have read many debates on the net reg.
><arranged vs love marriage and was amused that

Did you notice that the Woman from Independent India did not have the guts 
to reveal her identity (assuming it was a genuine post)?
From: savgur@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Srinivas Bhandari Savgur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need ride to Mexico for attaining visa.
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:10:29 GMT
Reply-To: savgur@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Srinivas Bhandari Savgur)
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: savgur@pooh.cc.utexas.edu

This posting is for a friend who does not have an e-mail account. One can
feel free to respond to my e-mail address or contact him directly
**************************************************************************

Hi,
I need a ride with someone wishing to go to Matamoros or Monterrey, Mexico
for the purpose of attaining visa. I wish to leave for Mexico any day between
the 6th and 15th of April 1992. Will share expenses.

Anybody interested can contact me at:

Phone 	: (512) 454 2355
Address : Leonard Joanes,
	  4501 Speedway, #202,
	  Austin, TX 78751
Thanx,
Leo
******************************************************************************
From: patel@zodiac.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bride wanted
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:56:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services

>>Looking for a Bride:
>>
>>Masters in Compter Science and BE in Electrical Engineering with a very
>>good academic background and vivacius personality is looking for a well-
>>educated, broad-minded girl. Caste no bar. Please email:


> I hope this is a joke. If is I don't like it!
> If it is not YOU ARE A VERY SICK MAN. 

What's so sick about it?  Is it so sick that your parents and your grandparents
might have been married by arrangment?  

  "If your Indian, accept it.  If your not, try to accept it."

> I would not be surprized that you are Kana (Blind form one eye).
> Certainly you are retarded.

Retarded?  What gave you the idea that this guy is retarded?
Are you an idiot?  Certainly you are.

> 	I know that arranged marriages are a part of the societey of
> sub-continent. But no one appreciates you looking for a bride on the 
> net like you are looking for a PC.

How do you know that NO ONE appreciates it.  Did you take a poll?
Or did you take a "KANA" survey?    Talk for yourself, KANAMAN.
Im sure a lot of people dont appreciate your bullshit either.
So unless you have something constructive to say, stop knocking the
matrimonials.   

Im not saying to keep your opinions to yourself either.  The stuff you 
wrote was not opinion.  It was garbage.

If you were looking for a PC you wouldnt post an ad for it.  But if 
looking for a bride, posting is a good method.  

Hitesh Patel
Rutgers University
EE '92
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re:soc.culture.tamil some more sugg.
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:25:08 GMT

Hey!! It sure is a great idea to have soc.culture.tamil.annanagar.

But I 've one more idea(C'mon now gimme one more chance)

Lets have soc.culture.tamil.annanagar.mudhal theru!!!!!!! That'll be Ulti!!

Jeevesh Srinivasamurthy
___________________________________________________________________________________
An innovative Electrical Engineer always with tons of ideas!! Any takers???
__________________________________________________________________________________
From: jitendra@watson.ibm.com (Jitendra Telang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: citizenship
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:07:30 GMT
Reply-To: jitendra@kaiser.watson.ibm.com (Jitendra Telang)
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

> Last of all, you really need a crash course in understanding what the term
> "National" means. It does not mean something that a plurality, or even a numerical
> majority of people that constitute a Nation (as different from a Country)
> reflects. For something to be National, it has to represent something that is
> shared by ALL (well, a VAAAST majority) of Indians. If we had a National language
> in that sense, I'd be glad to learn it. It takes either blissful ignorance or
> plain arrogance to assume that a mere statement that Hindi is the National
> Language is going to get people to accept it as such. You may even get them to

> -srinivas

Well, when you say shared by ALL, you have to understand it's virtually
impossible in a country like India where we have mixture of so many
cultures living together. But that does not mean we should not agree on
at least one language to be called as National. Now it would be useless
if every state asks that it's regional language be made the National language.
So obviously the choice goes in favour of the majority of people. 

You claim that you'll be glad to learn our National language if we had one.
I seriously doubt that. All persons like you try to find some logic to make
arguments about Hindi NOT being a national language. If you want to say that
we shouldn't have ANY language termed as National language, then I have nothing
further to say. If that's not the case, what language is best to be called as
that in India?

One more thing, I'm a non-Hindi person myself. I mean, my mother tongue
is not Hindi, it's Marathi. But here I am arguing with you why you
people aren't ready to accept Hindi as National Language? It's not just because
I understand Hindi. For that matter you said that you also do understand it.
It's obviously clear from your posting that you are one of those having 
attitude problems towards Hindi.

I want to make it clear that I am not generalizing my point about any type
of caste or religion and I'm sorry if my statements in this or any further
articles about this issue offend anybody. I do not mean to do so. I just
want a plain discussion about this without any grudge against each other.

If you wish to discuss this on e-mail, I'm reachable at 'telang@watson.ibm.com
--

Jitendra

Dis.: All standard ones apply...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: raja@houghton.cps.msu.edu (Narayan S. Raja)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Reply-To: raja@cps.msu.edu
Organization: Pattern Recognition & Image Processing, MSU
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:46:18 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.023906.10281@cs>, (M.P. Krishna Raj) writes:

< Since tamils are scattered throughout the world and many of them seems
< to be neither citizens of india nor sri-lanka, 

This is equally true of other emigrant
groups of Indian origin (e.g. Gujaratis, 
Punjabis, Telugus, or Hindi-speakers).
Most countries with a sizeable Tamil
population also have sizeable numbers 
of other Indians.  Further, the experiences 
and problems of all these emigrant groups
are very similar.


For example, Malaysia has mostly Tamils,
but also many Gujaratis, Malayalis, and 
Sikhs.  South Africa has many Gujaratis
and Hindi-speakers, along with some Sikhs
and Tamils.  East Africa has mostly Gujaratis
but also a few Goans, Sikhs, and Tamils.  Fiji 
has mostly Hindi-speakers, and a few Tamils.  
The same is true of Mauritius, Guyana, and 
Trinidad.  The U.K., U.S.A., and Canada have 
people from every part of South Asia.



< why not we create
< soc.culture.tamil.international

Many non-Tamils take interest in
discussions about Tamil.  There have 
been some excellent discussions about 
Tamil/Dravidians on s.c.indian.  For
example, the discussion on migrants
from Saurashtra and Maharashtra
settled in Tamil Nadu led on to many
other aspects of Tamil history, such
as Pallava dynasty of Northern T.N.

In fact, s.c.indian gives us an
excellent opportunity to spread 
awareness of Tamil culture among 
other Indians (and in turn, to learn
about their culture).  

If we are so proud of our Tamil culture, 
we shouldn't throw away this opportunity 
to make other people aware of this culture.


For these reasons, I think that a 
separate s.c.tamil is unnecessary.


Narayan Sriranga Raja.

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        |     |     |     |          /       |     |
        |     |     |     |         /        |     |
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From: reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Memorial to victims of 1984 Sikh riots.
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:16:47 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.mips.com
Originator: reddy@dish.mips.com


     As far as I know, there has been no memorial put up for the victims
of the 1984 riots in New Delhi. Does anyone know if there are plans to put
one up? 

Thanks in advance,

-- 
T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)
From: partha@living.rutgers.edu (stranger in a strange land)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian names for ..... Computer !!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:16:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Here at Rutgers 
  Maya.rutgers.edu   and
  Karma.rutgers.edu  comes to my mind first but there may be more..


:)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian