From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Subject: Re:  Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Summary: Spare us....
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 00:37:00 GMT

In article <BzonLK.HCo@ucunix.san.uc.edu> bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.215741.1093@beaver.cs.washington.edu> hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec22.184201.24132@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta) writes:
>
>>>to the Hindus? Doesn't Islam from Arab land owe an apology to all of us living 
>>>in Indian sub-continent whose culture and religion this ideology sought to 
>>>stifle and murder in the present day India and has already done it  in Pakistan
>>>and Bangladesh over a thousand year period.
>>>
>>>Sanjay K. Gupta
>>>
>
>>Dear Sanjay K. Gupta,
>>
>>The good thing Islam did was take away the Nazi/Fascist religion of the 
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>>Hindooswho today have all crawled inside their little closets. . . . .
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>
>>Best Regards,
>>Shams Hasan.
>
>
>
>Dear Hasan Saheb, 
>
>I would just like you to read the following article which has appeared
>on soc.religion.islam. May be then you would know what is religious Fascism
>which needs to be taken away.
>
>---raj
>
>Quoted article :
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>From uceng.uc.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!zeeshan Tue Dec 22 17:37:18 EST 1992
>Article: 2960 of soc.religion.islam
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>From: spectre@uiuc.edu (Ian)
>Subject: Is it okay under Orthodox Islamic teaching to kill non-Muslim dakwa people?
>Originator: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan -Moderator)
>Approved: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
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>Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:07:47 GMT
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>Asalamulaikum.
>
>I read this article (included below) today. I have heard sentiments
>from American Muslims that it's not proper under Islam to kill dakwa
>people of other religions (unless they attack you physically). Is this
>an orthodox Islamic belief, or is it just a reflection upon the fact
>that these Muslims who voiced this opinion are Americans, and American
>culture cherishes religious freedom? If American Muslims (or Muslims of
>any other nationality for that matter) have proofs (scripture) to back
>up that position, or if others have proofs to back up the other
>position, could you email me with them? Thank you.
>
>Wassalam,
>Ian
>
>------ Ramos appeals to Saudi Arabia king for Filipino preacher
>
>MANILA, Philippines (UPI) President Fidel Ramos Tuesday appealed to Saudi
>Arabia's King Fahd to pardon a Filipino born-again preacher scheduled to be
>hung on Christmas Day in Riyadh.
>
>``I wish to make a personal appeal to Your Royal Highness to spare Oswaldo
>Magdangal from execution,'' Ramos said in a letter to the monarch. ``As you
>know, 25 December is observed as a universal day of peace and forgiveness. I
>believe that the significance of the season would not be missed by Your Majesty.''
>
>Magdangal has been accused of preaching the Christian faith in Saudi Arabia,
>a Muslim country. Aside from Ramos' letter, the government also instructed
>the Philippine ambassador to Saudi Arabia to help secure Magdangal's release.
>-- 
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>God is gracious = Yahya = Yochanan =        But I have promises to keep,
>Johannes = John = Jean = Jan = Ian     And megs to write before I sleep,
>Internet: chai@cs.uiuc.edu             And megs to write before I sleep.
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Dear Raj Saheb,

Thanks for your article about the Saudi news on the christian preacher's
sentence of death on Christmas day.

I have first hand experience of Saudi Arabia. I have lived and worked in
Al-Khobar for two years in th 80's. 

The only thing Islam and Saudi Arabia has in common is the fact that God
chose out of all the people, the arabs to send His most important and
last prophet. THE REASON: THEY NEEDED TO BE CIVILIZED THE MOST , AND STILL DO
...
When I say that, I say it with all the conviction and belief of a muslim
who is VERY WELL INFORMED ABOUT practices of so called muslim countries.

However, Raj, the law in Saudi Arabia is not based upon Islam but on the
pagan/kafir nature of the people of that area. Besides, the government will
not carry out the execution now that it is out of their little police state.

So, everyone RELAAAAXX!! this is not the first time the Saudis are doing 
something like this and surely it is not the last.



Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.