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From: gjl@phx.mcd.mot.com (George Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: DECEMBER TEMPS IN TUCSON, AZ
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:38:55 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.

In article <1992Nov9.151023.31847@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mjb7@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MARY J BOWEN) writes:
>Sure, I can watch the weather channel everyday (and probably will), but: I'll
>be in Tucson from December 2 until January 8. What kind of clothing will I
>need? Is it cold? Warm? (Surely not hot?!). Snow? Swimming? Any information
>will be helpful! Thanks.    mary j.


For that long of a stay, the temperature could vary quite a bit.

It should, for the most part, be in the 70's to 80's in the daytime, and
40's to 50's at night.  At that time of year though, storm fronts that pass
through the western states can drop the temperatures by 10 to 20 degrees for
a day or two, then it warms up again. You can expect a couple of days to be
in the 40's or 50's daytime and in the low 30's at night. Bring a sweater 
or two, and a coat.

If we get a good snowi, there will be snow on Mt. Lemon, which is 30 minutes
from Tucson.  The Ski runs usually don't open until late Dec or mid Jan 
depending on the amount of snow.  2 to 3 hours from Tucson there is Sunrise
ski area which will have artificial snow by that time.

Swimming?  Usually only if there is a heated pool....sorry!

Need more info?  E-mail me

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When I asked a Chinese Malay if he was going to give blood for a Blood Drive 
he said:
"What is inside a Chinaman should stay inside a Chinaman....
                               .....Unless there's money to be made from it!"
Ditto for Motorola's opinions!

George James Lloyd 
Motorola Microcomputer Division
2900 S. Diablo Way       DW234
Tempe AZ 85282
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From: tto@aspentec.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: PASSPORTS 4 PERM. RESIDENTS
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:11:02 EST
Distribution: usa,world
Organization: Aspen Technology, Inc. Cambridge, MA.

In article <1992Nov3.165045.11394@ils.nwu.edu>, tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:

> Both me and my fiance are permanent residents of the US.  Is there a problem
> with getting passports if you're not a citizen?  We're planning on cruising in
> the Bahamas for a part of our honeymoon.
> 
> I have no idea how to go about getting a passport so any help will be much
> appreciatted.
> 
> JOSH TSUI

Yes, there is a problem.  Only U.S. citizens are allowed to have U.S.
passports.  A P.R. can either use the passport from one's country of origin
(and the green card will get one in); or apply for a Re-entry Permit from
the I.N.S.  The re-entry permit is just like a green card in a book
form, it does not entitle the holder to anything more than the ability
to re-enter the U.S.  A re-entry permit is valid for two years.

Depending on the season and location, it may take up to 3 months to get
a re-entry permit.  In my experience, it never took less than 6 weeks.
So hurry now!  (On the other hand, one can get same day service when
applying for a passport.  Talking about discrimination...)

Also, other countries may have different visa requirements for passport
holders and re-entry permit holders.  Check before hand.

Tak.
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From: zmatthew@aludra.usc.edu (Zachary Philip Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: (re-post) Greece tour 5/93
Date: 10 Nov 1992 00:53:17 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: us
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I am in the process of planning a visit/study/enjoy tour of Greece
 (May 17-June 10th) Thought I would post this here in case anyone
 was interested.
 Stops will include London (to see the Greek sculpture in the
 British museum) Athens, Mycenae , Tiryns, Delphi, Olympia,
 Epidaurus, Nafplion, Daphni, Ossios Lukas, Santorini (Thira,
 Oia, Acrotiri etc.) Amorgos, Naxos........
 Alredy planning to go are several students from the honors
 program at Washington State University, a graduate student at USC,
 several faculty members from WSU and a couple of teachers from
 the Seattle area. We are trying to make this as affordable as
 possible by increasing our numbers.
 University students can receive credit through Washington State Uiversity.
We are looking forward to a fantastic summer getaway.
 I would love to hear from you if you are interested or might
 have some friends who are looking for an interesting summer vacation.
Send your address (Internet, Bitnet, AOL,Prodigy or Snail mail)
 to Zac Matthews
I - zmatthew@scf.usc.edu
B - zmatthew@uscvm.bitnet
A - ZacM
P - RKTB84A
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From: ASDXJLP <ASDXJLP@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cost of living in Caracas
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:00:00 GMT

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>From: sgmccook@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Stuart George Mccook)
>Subject: Cost of living in Caracas
>Message-ID: <1992Nov9.204819.24712@Princeton.EDU>
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>
>I am planning on doing research in Caracas for about six months next
>year.  Right now, I'm in the process of applying for grants, and I need
>to know the approximate cost of living there.  I'm particularly
>interested in rents, food, etc., but I'd also really appreciate any
>other advice or suggestions that anyone has to offer.  If anybody has
>any specific suggestions about places to live or places to avoid, I'd
>like to hear about it.  I'm a graduate student, so I'm used to minimalist
>living, but I would like to wind up somewhere reasonably clean and safe,
>and interesting, if possible.
>
>My email address is sgmccook@pucc.princeton.edu
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Stuart McCook
>
 First of all, as you may know the exchange rate is 75 Bolivares (Bs.)
 to $1 (very favorable for people taking Dollars).  I can not recommed
 a place to live, but you should be able to find an apartment in a
 good area for under $300.  One thing to look for in an apartment is
 security (bars on the windows, unless you get one of the top floors
 and bars on the door).  You may also want to look for one that is
 furnish with at least the electrical appliances, things like washers,
 driers, microwaves, etc. could cost twice as much as they do here).
   As far as food,  it should be cheaper at restaurants and at the
 grocery stores.  You should be able to do fairly well with $600 a
 month.  I do not know to what extend you are familiar with the
 country, but if you have any more questions feel freel

  Leo.
From: ngsw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Soon Wei NG)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:27:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Hong Kong
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.travel

October and November seems to be the "most expensive" season in Hong Kong.
I know, I was there last month. Hotel rates go up by about 10% during these
2 months. Evidently, as I understand it, there is an annual commercial 
exhibition in Guang Zhou during this period, and everyone is putting up
in Hong Kong instead. Hope this helps.

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From: Vijay_Anand@transarc.com
Subject: Vacation in FLORIDA, info requested
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 13:25:35 -0500 (GMT)
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Folks,

  My wife and I are planning a vacation in Florida during the week of
Thanksgiving, and would like some assistance about places to stay. We
are landing in Florida on the 21st, and would like to spend the weekend
on a beach nearby. I'm thinking of the hotels around Daytona Beach. I'm
interested in spending a quiet weekend on the beach with not too many
folks crowding the beach. I'm sure lots of folks reading this group have
been to Florida. Could you give me some advice as to which hotels to go
for a room with a view of the beach, and access to the beach with not
too much of a crowd. Also, good deals on hotels and good experiences on
staying at some of the hotels on the beach near Orlando are welcome. We
will be travelling around Florida the next week. If you have ideas about
places to visit (the not so obvious ones) would be greatly appreciated.
I promise to post a summary to the net, so please email your replies,
and thanks for taking the time...

Thanks,
Vijay Anand
Transarc Corp.
Pittsburgh PA
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Should I reschedule?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:22:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: PA.1992Nov9.222206.13687
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory

|> I was all set to go to Hawaii (specifically the Big Island) over Thanksgiving.
|> Last week I broke my ankle.
|> 
|> Should I go anyway, lie on the beach and try to take bus tours?  Or
|> should I attempt to reschedule so that I can actually walk around petroglyph
|> fields and go swimming (well, at least in the hotel pool), neither of which
|> I can do with a cast on my leg?  
|> 
|> Surely someone out there has had travel plans disrupted by an injury and
|> has some insight?  I'm leaning towards rescheduling since I understand the
|> airlines just hit you for $25 nowadays but is there anything else I should
|> consider?

You'll probably still have fun, but I think you'd enjoy yourself alot
more if you could get out and hike, swim, dive, etc.  Whether or not
you should go is a personal decision.  How often do you plan on going
to Hawaii?  If you go there every year, one trip in a cast isn't a big
deal, but if this is a once-in-a-lifetime trip, you'll want to be good
health.

If you're worried about medical treatment, rest assured that doctors
and hospitals in Hawaii are as good as in any other region of the U.S.

Your travel agent can help you with refunds, etc.  Depending on the
type of tickets you bought, your refund could range from 0 to the full
price.  Make sure you mention your medical problem, as airlines
sometimes give refunds on medical grounds.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
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From: djb@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.j.bryant)
Subject: December sightseeing around Colorado Springs?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:18:42 GMT
Keywords: Colorado Springs, Pike's Peak


I will be in Colorado Springs in early December on business and am interested
in suggestions for how to spend a half-day or so of free time I'm pretty
sure I'll have.  I'll have a rental car, and am interested in seeing some of 
the mountains west of the city if possible.  According to the AAA Guidebook,
many of the roads and attractions in the area (Pike's Peak, for example) 
are closed in December.  Still, if possible I'd like to get up into the
mountains to see the sights and take some photographs.  Is December too
late?

Recommendations for restaurants in the area would also be much appreciated.

	Thanks!
                                         UUCP: att!cbosgd!djb
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        6200 East Broad Street          PHONE: (614) 860-4516
        Columbus, Ohio  43213             FAX: (614) 868-4302
From: haggar@crchh432.BNR.CA (Haggar Alsaleh)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Spanish schooling
Keywords: Spanish schooling
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:59:43 GMT
Reply-To: haggar@crchh432.BNR.CA (Haggar Alsaleh)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Hi, 
I'm looking for intensive spanish language classes 
some where in central/south America. To be given	
by school/College/Univ. If you have any idea or
any info on such, please send me your thoughts.
I'm interested in classes that is given for a short
period of time.

Haggar@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: grout@sp90.csrd.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout)
Subject: Re: DRIVING ACROSS THE FRUITED PLAINS (USA)
Reply-To: j-grout@uiuc.edu
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:21:19 GMT

pwebb@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Peter Webb) writes:

>Take I-10 from LA to I-40 in Arizona (maybe you can get I-40 in CA somewhere).

Yes... get out to I-15 North somehow (on any one of a number of
east-west freeways, possibly taking I-215 North to I-15 North), then
take I-40 East.

>Follow I-40 [to] St. Louis

You take I-40 East to Oklahoma, then take I-44 East to St. Louis.

[my suggestions from St. Louis, which are much more direct, are
interpolated here]

(A) Take I-70 East (to Columbus, OH) to I-270 North (around Columbus)
to I-71 North to I-271 (bypassing Cleveland) to I-90 East (to
Syracuse, NY) to I-81 North (to Ontario) to Ontario 401 to the Quebec
border and Montreal.

(B) As above, but near Buffalo, take I-190 North to the Peace Bridge
(to Fort Erie, ON) to the QEW to Toronto (and then 401 East to
Montreal).

(C) Take I-70 East to I-55 North (to the edge of Chicago) to I-80 East
to I-94 East (to Detroit) to the tunnel (to Windsor, ON) to city
streets (it should be posted, or you could ask for directions: it's
only a few km) to Ontario 401 all the way through Ontario to the
Quebec border and Montreal.

Route (C) has almost no tolls (a brief stretch south of Chicago),
higher speed limits (east of Ohio, the freeway speed limit in the USA
is 55 mph but it's 100 km/h through Canada) and takes you near Toronto
(not a blessing at rush hour :-) but, unfortunately, route (C) has
much more expensive gasoline prices (in Canada).  Route (B) cuts down
gas fillups in Canada, but is somewhat longer (it backtracks around
the western edge of Lake Ontario).

I recommend route (C) (which, coincidentally, follows virtually the
same route as old US 66 between LA and Chicago).

--
John R. Grout						j-grout@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
From: endecotp@cs.man.ac.uk (PB Endecott (PhD SFurber))
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Old Soviet Central Asia to China
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:21:38 GMT

ramsey@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (curtis ramsey) writes:

>I know this is probably a long shot, but does anyone have any info on
>traveling through the old Soviet central Asian republics? Specifically
>how much it will cost me through Intourist and if it is possible (as
>reported in the last couple of issues of Great Expeditions Magazine)
>to cross from Alma Ata to Urumqi in Xinjiang Province in China?

No advice available about the border crossing - except that things change
so quickly that nothing you read is likely to be true by the time you get
there.  The most up-to-date info. is probably in Lonely Planet's USSR
Travel Survival Kit; but that is still out of date.

This summer I traveled by train from Moscow to Kanibadam, which is in
Kirgitstan, East of what used to be Leninabad, and returned via Tashkent.
Ths rail route isn't really open to foreigners (certainly not through
Intourist anyway) and I traveled on a ticket valid for Russians only,
bought by my Russian friends in Moscow.  This wasn't really a problem as
even the train guard didn't object.  The trains were of a very acceptable
standard and my journey cost about one pound each way.

Despite being stopped by the police three times in Tashkent during an
18-hour stop there, I would definitely say it is a friendly and mostly safe
place to visit.  The asian people were much more friendly towards me than
to my Russian friends, whom they blame for the poor economic situation.
They are all very keen to meet outsiders and are very generous towards you.

There is no great problem getting basic food and other essentials in even
smaller towns and villages as there is always a market (Bazar) for fruit
(mostly huge melons), bread etc.

Enjoy your trip, please contact me for any further info.

--Phil
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Florida in January
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:28:17 GMT

In article <RBS.92Nov5153011@mink.uk.ac.ed.aisb> rbs@aisb.ed.ac.uk writes:

>My girlfriend and I are going to be in Florida for the first 2 weeks of
>January.
>She is attending a conference in Orlando for the first week and then
>we have a week to do as we please.

I would recommand St. Augustine. It is on the Flordia east coast
and about a 2.5-hour drive from Orlando. It is supposed to be the
oldest city in the US (although not necessarily that old for Europeans).
There are some historical sites and lots of places for shopping
and sight seeing. Seefood is pretty good over there. The cruise
around the harbor is nice too. St. Augustine is a nice place to
spend a day or two.
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
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From: martin@megadata.mega.oz.au (Martin Corr)
Subject: CUBA/NICARAGUA/EL SALVADOR
Keywords: cheap
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:08:20 GMT


I will be backpacking during December/January this year in Central America.

The current plan is to travel Mexico-Guatemala-towards Costa Rica
overland until I run out of time and catching a flight from wherever
to  Jamaica. From there to Cuba and home.

The questions are as follows:

CUBA
1. Has anybody traveled there recently? What is happening?

2. How can I get from Jamaica to Cuba apart from Cubana?

3. Places to stay?

4. Current exchange rates/ currency problems / prices ?

NICARAGUA, EL SALVADOR
1. General Stuff on Accommodation, Places of Interest?

2. Any problems associated with travel in any of these countries?

3. Current exchange rates/ prices ?


I have all the Lonely Planet books and Central American Handbook 
so I'm looking for things outside these. Heaps of thanks in advance.

Martin Corr

martin@megadata.mega.oz.au
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From: naidu@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (naidu.gandham)
Subject: Thanksgiving in PA, NY & New England
Keywords: PA, NY, New England, outdoors
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:59:06 GMT


I decided to tap the net's collective wisdom for ideas for
a short Thanksgiving vacation in the NY, PA and New England
areas.  We are generally looking for outdoor activities/ideas.
I realize the weather is going to be chilly/cold in most of
these places but would like to give it a shot anyway.

Thanks a lot...will summarize if there is interest.
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From: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: CUBA/NICARAGUA/EL SALVADOR
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:50:55 GMT
Reply-To: rbakker@nl.oracle.com (Rick Bakker)
Organization: /etc/organization

Sorry guys - my email to him bounced.
Tom,
I for one would very much like to hear of any other details on your Cuba
trip. I would love to go there - preferably while it's still quaintly 
communist. Socialism under a blue sky - wow. How did you get there, what
did it cost, any other memories... Any monument at Bay of Pigs ("Almighty
Buck was stopped here")? Were there any visa hassles?
Now that this is a posting anyway, could someone tell me if Americans
really aren't allowed to go to Cuba (could be the island's biggest  
attraction) and if so, who or what doesn't allow this? I know I couldn't
find any way of getting there from Florida, so it's probably true.
Of course, if anyone else has useful info, drop me a line. I promise
here and now a travelogue.
Rick 
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From: ag639@yfn.ysu.edu (Les Casey)
Subject: Renting an apartment in Moscow
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:24:53 GMT


 
I am interested in travelling to the Soviet Union for one
month from approximately March 27 to April 23, 1993.
 
Instead of hotels, it was suggested that I ask if someone
can allow me to use their apartment for one month in exchange
for American dollars.
 
- I expect clean accomdation but nothing fancy
- Sole use of the apartment is expected, not just one room
- I will pay several hundred American dollars cash
   20% in advance, the remainder on a weekly basis
- Must be in Moscow - close to the center of the city

 
If somebody could provide me several internet email
addresses of people living in Russia, it would be helpful.
 

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From: brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj)
Subject: Re: Europe Tour Advice Wanted
Reply-To: brekshyn@shearson.com
Organization: Ordinatio
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:37:57 GMT

Hi!

   I just came back from Rome (Oct. 30 - Nov. 8) and the weather was superb (except
for one rainy Monday, but then, Mondays always suck (museums are closed and one
has to go to work unless on vacation, chuckle!).  The weather ranged from the 50's
to the 70's during the day with the evening becoming quite chilly.  Some partial
cloudiness, but otherwise just beautiful (for that week).


					Regards,

					Bohdan



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to represent me.
 
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In article Jww@sti.com, kchou@sti.com (Kathryn Chou) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'll be vacationing in Europe this coming Christmas for about 3 weeks.
>It's a package tour with Trafalgar visiting France, Italy, Switzerland,
>Germany, Holland, Austria, and Liechtenstein.  Any information you
>have on the climate, what clothes to bring, and other insightful tips
>for this trip is much appreciated.  
>
>Thank you,
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>Kathryn Chou    Software Transformation   1601 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd, #100
>kchou@sti.com    (408) 973-8081 x335            Cupertino, CA 95014
>==============================================================================
>
>-- 
>-- 
>==============================================================================
>Kathryn Chou    Software Transformation   1601 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd, #100
>kchou@sti.com    (408) 973-8081 x335            Cupertino, CA 95014



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