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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: All North Carolina team
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:00:02 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <7tf-DJA@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:
>Correct that Mike would have been a mega star, but in what league?


Sorry you're going to have to refresh my memory, what year was the NBA
formed, 1980? The NBA existed before Magic and Bird, there were lots 
of fans, the marketing wasn't nearly as good. It took off with cable,
and Magic and Bird were the perfect "ambassadors", but the league
would still have prospered without them, just not as much. None
of this would have affected Michael, when you're that good, people
will notice.


>From talking to a friend of mine who grew up in Australia, he noted
>that Jordan is so big over there. The kids are all wearing his
>shirt, Bulls caps, and his shoes......would the kids be wearing
>this stuff if there was no Magic and no Bird? I think not....
>
Sure they would have, my friends and I grew up wearing Warriors shirts with
the number 14 on the jersey, none of us knew who #14 was(I think its Tom
Meschery a retired number for the Warriors), and we all used to ask the
stores why they didn't have any with #24(Rick Barry) or #44 (clifford 
Ray). 

Michael started a trend with Air Jordans, they were the first big name 
big price shoes(unlike Puma clydes which were worn by yours truly for
years and were name after Walt Frazier, which were cheap shoes).

The NBA would have gone global because of cable tv. Why do you think
when my cousin visited from Australia 6 years ago her boyfriend was
dying to see a 49er game and an Ozzy Osbourne concert? The had seen
the Niners on tv and Ozzy on MTV at home and wanted to see the real
thing in person. 

Does your friend in Australia report people wearing Chuck Person
shirts and hats? Why not? Because he doesn't have Mike's appeal.

You don't have to like Michael, a lot of people on this net don't,
but you have to admit that the man knows how to market himself
and the guy can flat out play ball.


>				Marty




Russ Smith
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I live in hotels, tear out the wall. I have accountants pay for it all".

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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: HE'S BACK (Re: Debunking ... [and other bullshit])
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:39:33 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Aug12.162330.3858@ichips.intel.com>, harryk@omews58.intel.com (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
> And Gary, well said.	Devils over the Cats in Basketball this year - you
> 			heard it here first.

 Are the Sun Devils even going to have enough players to put 5 on
the court??? Anyone over say 6'3"?

			gln
From: cpm@clyde.clearpoint.com (Chris Martel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BIRD supplement in Boston Globe
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:39:07 GMT
	<1992Aug20.134814.11245@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Reply-To: cpm@clyde.clearpoint.com
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748



In article <14972@ksr.com> dorin@ksr.com (Bob Dorin) writes:
>Copies of "The End of an Era", a special Globe section in yesterday's
>edition is available by sending a check for $1 per copy


The Globe will also feature some kind of poster or picture of Bird
in the upcoming sunday edition.

I wonder if it will be the old or young Bird? Maybe they should have
a contest like the old or young Elvis postage stamp :-)


Chris Martel			cpm@clyde.clearpoint.com
Clearpoint Research		cpm@cpoint.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gregory@flood.zso.dec.com (Peter Gregory)
Subject: Re: ALL STATE OF MICHIGAN TEAM!!!!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:03:34 GMT

In article <1dON027i1e4X01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> msw10@nepenthe.as writes:

>list of Michigan stars not included.

>Are you serious? you couldn't make a team of 12 from these guys that would
>beat John Thompson's team in '88, not to mention Lithuania or Croatia.

Only with Thompson as the coach, with a real coach they would beat them easily.

Peter
From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Debunking the standard myth was Re: Couple of thoughts..
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:30:38 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <1992Aug23.024829.13983@msc.cornell.edu> hillyard@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Sean Edward Hillyard,F7 Clark,50649,) writes:
>
>I mention this only because it highlights an important point:  The word
>"black" provides little information about anyone or any group.  Of the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>> 100,000 genes that determine human makeup, only one to six regulate 
>> skin color,
>> so we should assume almost nothing about anyone based on skin color alone.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> West Africans and East Africans are both black, but in many physical ways 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> they
>> are more unlike each other than they are different from most whites.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
This is what I've been trying to tell these people for quite some time
now.  There are different ethnic black group as there are different
ethnic white etc etc etc.  So a statement that works for one group
doesn't necessarily work for others, or even a large segment of that
group.

I wish I could remember where I read that darn article that stated that
I found no difference between blacks and whites that it studied except
the white group had a marginally higher body fat percentage.  Probably
in science or nature or something.  Actually probably not in Nature,
it reads like someone threw up data (the article was more free flowing).

But anyway, I'm curious if any of these studies checks into diet.
As a kid in JA, I ate 3 meals a day.  For breakfast - warm cereal
lunch - prob beef patty, dinner - some good food.  No snacks no
dessert etc.

When I came here, breakfast turned to cold cereals (yes I indulged
in frosted flakes - I'm not ashamed), more take out foods etc.

When I got a job, I really started indulging - mcdonald, once ate
a gallon of breyers (you know - "additives, we don't use no stinking
additives") in 1hr.  Not to mention

Needless to say, I went from 6'3" 145lbs to 6'4" 193lbs.  Probably
why I'm so grounded.  I could probably jump 2" higher.  Wouldn't
help though.

Why did I bring this up, well I like to hear myself type.  But
seriously, I just keep seeing that thinner hips thing.  All I have to
say is that fat people have thicker hips too.  Not to mention, I seriously
doubt that the countries tested can afford the amount of junk we who can
afford it eat here.  If you can afford it, the TV ads brainwash you into
buying.

Well anyway, hopefully 'nuff said and WC and others have learnt
something, and we can get back to Bball.

P.S.	Bodyfat slows you down.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
"I came to win, that don't mean it's a sin"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: kim@kowari.uwa.oz.au (Kim Shearer)
Subject: Re: Angola
Reply-To: kim@kowari.uwa.oz.au
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:32:52 GMT

In article 12822@oracle.us.oracle.com, rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce) writes:
>In article <Bt70y2.89E@ecf.toronto.edu> yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy) writes:
>>I am a visa student from Angola and I am going to tell you something that will 
>>upset many of you, specially in the US, but I swear to you over my grandfather 
>>Kunta Abooba's grave, it is true. The reason our national team lost to the 
>>Dream Team was because our team did not have enough time to prepare for the 
>>games due to a tribal warfare in our countryside and some of our key players 
>>were badly injured and could not make it to Barcelona.  The game was very close
>>until the Charles Barkley elbow.  His intimidating style of play affected our   team morale; such hooliganism should not be allowed in international play.      Without all those problems, our team would have defeated the Dream Team since 
>>we are superior technically specially in defense as you would know if you 
>>watched our national league. 
>
>	Oh yeah, I believe you!!  Great teams are not intimidated by physical
>	play.  This reminds me of an old Cliche 'excuses are like assholes,
>	everyone has them and they all stink'.
>
>		Russ 'suckered into a response due to boredom' Pierce


  Truly great teams do not resort to dirty play.

  An elbow behind the play is hardly "physical play", it is pathetic.
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bird is retiring
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:15:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <1731@hsdndev.UUCP>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:
|> In article <Bt6o87.Hq1@apollo.hp.com> stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman) writes:
|> >
|> >------------------------FLASH----------------------------------
|> >Tuesday 8/18 10:20AM
|> >
|> >Boston media is now reporting that Larry Bird will announce his 
|> >retirement at a noon Celtics press conference today.
|> >---------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> He certainly did. Celtics' own WEEI-SportsRadio 590 carried the whole
|> newsconference and now in the mourning stage by having Dee Brown,
|> Rick Fox, along with Celtics' play-by-play man Glen Ordway and his mid-day
|> show sidekick Janet Prensky taking phone calls from devastated fans/listeners
|> with Bird's Celtics play-by-play moments interspersed in-between.
|> 
|> The amount of shocked fans calling WEEI in disbelief of Bird's walking
|> away from the game is staggering. It's certainly was expected. 
|> 
|> 
|> -Mark
|> Sad but not shocked. Happy that George Bush and all the sick-in-the-head
|> Republicans will get zero attention in the Boston media in the next few
|> days.
Well, the fanspoll question on Ch. 56 this Saturday showed that 40(!)%
of callers thought he SHOULD retire and a significant numbers of other callers
if not thought so, then knew it was destined  to happen. So I think the
radio callers were representative of a small group who are not only convinced
the team needs Bird, but sincerely believed he could keep on playing.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Baksetball Cards WANTED
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:09:47 GMT


Hi.  HOpe this is an appropriate news group for this.

I am tired of paying top-dollar (or being asked to pay actually) for basketball
cards at shops.   and I haven't been to card shows lately (not convenient)
and also tired of trading cards at 40-60% of Beckett HI price.

SOOO, if you are in the same boat as me, let's deal.
I am interested in the following especially:
cards/sets from the following:
86-87 Fleer
87-8 Fleer
88-89 Fleer
89-90 Hoops (Robinson #138)
89-90 Fleer (Manning, Charles Smith)
90-91 Skybox (hardaway, kemp, robinson)
90-91 Fleer Rookie Sensations (Gill, Robinson, Hardaway, etc..)
91-92 Upper Deck/Skybox Rookies

will pay up to 85% HI BECKETT PRICE.  well sell for up to 85% Beckett PRICE
will trade for straight up HI beckett prices.

also would like a few partners in crime for some bulk buying.  since, bulk
buying is so much cheaper.  
e.g. this year would have been good to get my hands on some Upper Decks Boxes
and Factory Sealed Sets.   at the beginning of the season , i believe boxes
sold for maybe $30 , but Cases (24 boxes) averaged a prcie of $20-$25 per box
.. but I don't want 24 boxes and pay $400-$500 anyway.  so I'd probably want
maybe 3-5 boxes.  but bulk is paying cheaper so I'm interested in getting some
purchasing partners for buying bulk.

like the factory sealed Upper Deck setes ($35 HI BECKETT) are esteimate (don't
remember the magazine) to be $45-$50 next yeawr.
so I would love to have 1-2 sets to keep for at least 10 yrs and then 3 to sell 
within the next ten years.

anyway, if you are interested, please e-mail me.

also, if you want to sell cards, i will be in Seattle area until Friday Aug 21
and in California (upland/clarmeont/pomona/San Dimas) starting Wedn (aug 24?)
.. i will have limited transportation in CA also.. and if you plan on going to
card shows in that area, I WOULD LOVE TO GET A LIFT ! :)
i have never been to one yet.

so e-mail me please if you are interested.  I thnk that this year would be a
good year to buy to considering Shaq is coming out and the rest of the draft
seems immenseley talented.

thanks. ben
From: strauss@uncavx.unca.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Olympic Uniform - Reebok
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: strauss

In article <1992Aug11.151059.15171@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Richard.S.Miyara@dartmouth.edu (Richard S. Miyara) writes:
> During the DT's gold medal award ceremony, I was very concious about
> looking for the Reebok symbol on the uniforms.  Because Jordan had the
> flag draped over his right shoulder, I assumed that the Reebok logo
> must have been there.  However, I never saw it.  Did anyone else notice
> the logo?
> 
> Rich Miyara


I never noticed the logo until all the hoopla. I kept noticing the USAs
beautiful jackets. The logo was, however, made into part of the design, and
placed (script) about at the right breast.

Bob Strauss
ps: still, it was almost impossible to see.
From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: More on Chick Hearn
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:09:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Aug12.040949.16129
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce) writes:

>Nobody has mentioned the fact that Steve Jones (Chicks Sidekick) is useless 
>aswell. They have to be two of the worse anouncers. Being a Knicks fan (unless
>the Celtics are playing them) I get to hear the magical tones of Marv Albert
>every game. For me he one of the best announcers. I don't mind the fact that 

Wow.  I hate Marv Albert.  He seems like he studied Howard Cosell's
every move and is now playing it for us, over and over again.  I didn't
like Howie, but at least he was an original.

As for Steve Jones, if it's the Steve Jones of TNT/NBC/Blazer
broadcasting, he at least has the courtesy to shut up if he has nothing
intelligent to say.  Listening to the Blazers is often agonizing, but
when Pat Lafferty makes another idiotic comment, Jones leaves him
twisting in the wind.  Take a hint, Fratello. 

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From: csm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Chris Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Need Fantasy Hoop Rules (Please?)
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:37:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.108000051
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

I'm looking for rules for Fantasy Basketball.

Can anyone help me out? 
Are there any books on the subject (similar to Charpentier's Fantasy 
Football Digest)?

Thanks for any help,
Chris


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From: speednut@csource.oz.au (mark jose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: The All "Home-State" Team?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 21:53:30 +1000
Reply-To: speednut@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

Original Message From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Original Subject: The All "Home-State" Team?
 
 RT> As a follow on to my already controversial discussion about what it
 RT> will take to beat future Dream Teams I was engaged in an email
 RT> discussion with someone and the thought occurred to me that one the big
 RT> excuses people have been using to explain the U.S. dominance in hoops
 RT> was the huge population advantage. Of  course those people were
 RT> strangely silent about China's 5-1 population  advantage over ther U.S.
 RT> or the Soviet Union's 50 million+ population  advantage. It did give me
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            Does it still exist?
 
You are right, though. It is rather simplistic to base a country's ability
to win on the basis of population alone. Why, if you allocate 3 points for
a gold medal, 2 points for silver and 1 point for bronze, total this up and
divide by each countries population, the medal tally looks like this:
 
           Position 1:     Cuba
           Position 2:     Hungary
           Position 3:     AUSTRALIA  <- See we beat you yanks! :-)
              .
              .
              .
           Position 5?:    U.S.A.
 
Oh, and China causes my calculator to overflow. :-)
 
Cheers.
Mark.
 
BIG P.S.-
 
Atlanta, here we come - we'll beat Cuba as soon as we can work out a way to:
 
  a. Work out how the hell they score the damn boxing.
  b. Stop our boxers from chasing the money trail and turning professional
     because they can't undertand the rules either.
  c. Breed guys who have 8 foot arms and just jab and dance around the ring!
  d. Play more than 10 minutes of Basketball.
  e. Assassinate M. Jordan, C. Barkley (stop the cheering), and perhaps even
     an indiscriminant bombing of the yearly all star game.
  f. Stop the Chinese swimmers from growing to the stature of Karl Malone.
  g. Train more American divers to land on their backs.
 
 

.........................................................
mark jose
speednut@csource.oz.au  Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
The opinions expressed above are that of the author only.
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Meeks == Lor
Keywords: I'ts over
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:37:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Aug21.143744.54210
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug21.032615.1193@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.141854.67524@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>Well, it has been done before... Someone started a pool to see when our
>>infamous Stockton vs Isiah argument would end.  Mercifully, I stopped that one
>>and the Malone vs Isiah one as well.  I haven't been as smart this time:-)
>Oh, so it's an admission that your intelligence hasn't shown up yet, huh?
>
>>As for (iii), I don't work for, don't want to work for, and hopefully never 
>>will have to work for AT&T...  
>With your (non) qualification and way of thinking, I have no doubt about this.

Well, I guess the job offer I had from them 2 years ago doesn't count, eh???
Well, doesn't matter, I obviously had the qualification, just not the
way of thinking.  And, based on at least one example of the "way of thinking"
that exists there, I'll take that as a compliment.
-- 
David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: LJ, the Glide, Godzilla & Stockton
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:55:53 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


>I would like to know the height AND weight of the following NBA players:
>- Larry Johnson
6-6, 255 (this may be too generous in height, but that's what it says)

>- Clyde Drexler
6-7, 222

>- Charles Barkley
6-5, 263

>- John Stockton
6-1, 175

--Rob Clough
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Laker signings
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:15:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Aug14.181543.36941
Distribution: na
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <16ghauINNin7@ellipse.mps.ohio-state.edu> goedde@ellipse.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chris Goedde) writes:
>I read in the paper today that the Lakers have signed James Edwards,
>late of the Clippers, and Sean Higgins, last seen in Orlando (?) to
>contracts.  The paper said that Higgins is 6'9'', but didn't say if
>he's a PF or SF, can someone remind me what his game is like?

Hard to say with Higgens.  As I remember, Higgins was an ex-Michigan player
who played on the NCAA championship team (and put up the winning, last 
second put back) who gave up his final year of eligibility and went pro.
He was with San Antonio in 90-91 and was expected to do ok.  He is very 
athletic, and a long-range bomber, as I remember.  I remember seeing him
in the summer league (he is from California) this year and he lit things
up from outside..

>
>Here's what the Laker roster seems like to me:
>
>G: Threatt, Scott, Peeler, [Magic?], Cooper (?), Smith (?)
>F: Worthy, Perkins, Green, Campbell, Higgins (?)
>C: Divac, Edwards, Haley (?)
>
>Can someone in LakerLand give us an update on some of these guys?
>In particular, what are the chances of Duane Cooper and Tony Smith
>for making the team?  Is Haley still around?  I know Teagle's gone,
>is there someone I'm forgetting about?

Cooper has made quite an impression in the LA Summer League..
>
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From: tron@tc.fluke.COM (Peter Barbee)
Subject: Re: Race and Speed (was Re: Debunking the standard myth)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:26:28 GMT

In article <11AUG92.12593884@enh.nist.gov> begley@enh.nist.gov writes:
>Unless I missed previous posts, this discussion seems focussed solely
>on men; black, white, whatever. Where do women fit into these (IMHO
>vacuous) theories? I don't have statistics sitting right in front
>of me but my memory includes many many women from the former Soviet
>Union, East Germany, etc. that completely dominated running events.

It is widely believed that the East Germans and Soviets used a great
deal of performance enhancing drugs.  Most students of track and
field (as well as swimming) discount those performances.

Peter B
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: The All "Home-State" Team?
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:15:06 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug12.211119.11144@mcc.com> rudwick@rock.pkg.mcc.com (Tom Rudwick) writes:
>I'm probably missing some better players but:
>Texas:
>C	Shaquille O'Neal
>F	Larry Johnson
>F	Cadillac Anderson
>G	Clyde Drexler
>G	Spud Webb

G Rob Williams? 
>
>By the way, David Robinson was born in Florida, but I don't
>know how long he lived there.

We'd like to claim him but I think I'd know about a kid of his talent if he'd 
grown up in my backyard. Then again he was only 6'8" and slightly above 
average in high school as the story goes. 


-- 
Ronnie
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