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From: tai@utaphy.ph.utexas.edu (peter)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: best friend gets my "dream girl"
Date: 24 Dec 92 04:30:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance

I have a dilemma. here is the story:

Recently i've met a girl, not just any ordinary girl, we're talking about
the girl of my dream.  She's everything that i've ever wanted in a woman. 
So we meet and talk and she ends up being my best friend's girl.  Now you
ask, how in the world did i allow this to happen?  Well, my best friend was
downright inconsiderate, and not sparing my feelings of despair and
loneliness, he asks her out for a date and somehow attempted to charm her. 
Now she is completely in his power.  I feel that this situation is really
unfair because i'm very similar to him, and i've made it known that i was
very interested in this girl (but not to her).  My feelings are numb and
i'm insensitive to any emotion whatsoever.  I think that life sucks and if
i don't get a date by the time i'm 30 i will go to Lubby's and shoot all
the women on this face of earth!  There, how do you like them apples?  No,
actually I'll just go and see several shrinks and have an inferiority
complex for the rest of my natural life.  So I'm somewhat depressed right
now, but thank god i still have my cat. Actually, i can't wait until my
best friend leaves and never come back, then i can try again with my dream
girl, and i promise this time we'll have a better conversation. 

No, really, I still like my best friend, and he's probably better for her
than I am. What I need is a way to reconcile how I actually feel (envy,
despair, loneliness, spite, bitterness, *&^^*&^%)  with what i should feel
(happiness for my friend and peace with myself) ????

a prospective monk
From: Gleeep@cup.portal.com (Dave - Silon)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: DRIEM
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:51:34 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Vax Hunter,

Being that this is not currently Vax Hunting Season, AND that
I am not a vax, or even a vax hominibus, at least not in the
magneto-optical sense, I am both confused and driven to ingest
carbohydrates by your alienating reply (excuse me while I cook
some generic spaghetti in the Entropy Kitchen where few things
enter and many grow quite nicely on the leftovers):

...[minutes later (or eons for the time-challenged)]

>And what the hell kind of answer is that, "Gleeep"?? I've seen
>a few of your answers on here, and they are WEIRD.

Shame, shame.  [image of giant, cross-eyed grandma shaking her
finger at you for spoiling my lovely spaghetti dinner]  

Haven't you learned that such fear-born labels are the necrotic
fingers of Society strangling itself?  That comes right after
learning that new packages of underwear are fortune cookies for
babies accidentally lost at K-Mart.

"Oooooooooo, what does your say??"

[blush] "Inspected by 6."

"God, that's amazing!  It's so true!  It must be fate!"

"No.  Fruit-of-the-Loom.  Heh heh heh.  goo goo gaa gaa."

REMEMBER: There are no 'answers,' only people in search of
Reddy Kilowatt's parents.

- Gleeep
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: phantasm@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Equality...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:04:31 GMT

Someone asked if women would want equality were they equal all the time,
for good and bad, etc... It seems to me that the bad parts of equality
are greater than the suppression of the same...

icsjm@asuacad.bitnet writes:

> definately the term "equal" needs defining......let's look at it from a
> military point of view.....yes, a woman can fly a jet as good as a man....

Better...

> yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
> participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
> nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
> the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
> be about 2 or 3 seconds.

There are women today who could... There were women who could have done your
work in Nam better than you did... And with proper training, there are no
reasons why women would be poorer soldiers than men...

phantasm
From: ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: I think it's over..
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:41:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Arizona State University

it appears she has more respect for her parents then she does for you.  I know
it's hard to get through this....I know, I'm doing it now, when things get real
bad, I think about all the fantasic things we did together, when we were
together.....helps for a while, kinda takes the edge off...I still really
hurt, but am still trying to remain friends....false hopes (maybe)
From: lanny@iago.caltech.edu (Hsieh, Lai Lanny)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: follow-up to expectations and idealism
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:10 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: iago.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

hi everyone...

thanks you all for responding and giving me such good and indepth advice
and suggestions...i was able to see things in alot of different perspectives...
and i got to see a lot of different types of personalities too, from 
the people who replied and the attitude they took towards my problem...
it's great to know that there are people out there who understand
or went thru the same types of situations...

umm...i guess i should tell you the outcome of the thing, since it
is now behind me...(for those of you who care :)...i'm happy to say
that we are back together...there were a few days of cold-war...but
we sat down and had a real talk...and now i think he understands
what i was trying to tell him...plus alot of the things he said
were kind of anger words...so now that we both had time to cool off,
it was much easier to communicate the problem and discuss it...
it's been a tough x'mas, and i'm glad that this problem is now
resolved...

thanks again for your help...

lanny
From: ruthless@panix.com (Ruth Ditucci)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Answer to This really bites it
Summary: i
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:55:55 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

Is that right, I thought she was married....
From: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:21:52 GMT
Reply-To: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation

Truly the worst one I've ever hear (from someone who claimed to have used it
regularly with varying results):

Picker-upper: "Your father must have been a thief"
Pickupee:     "Why"
Picker-upper: "'Cause he stole the stars from the sky and put them in your eyes"

Yow!

---
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: hf10@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (FieryPhoenix)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LDR's
Date: 20 Dec 92 05:05:26 GMT
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies

Although me and my SO see each other every couple of weeks - every month it
still feels weird because every time we leave each other it seems like we're
just waiting to be together and every time we're together, it seems like
we're always trying not to waste a moment and thinking that we're going to
have to part soon.  When we get to spend the holidays together, *if*, it's
usually at a parent's house and then, what kind of time do you get to spend
alone?

Also, if my SO has lots of plans during a break when home, and I'm at my home
with zip to do it also amkes me feels like my SO is to busy for me or has 
forgotten.  And we're supposed to do this for another year and a half, possibly
two and a half.  <sigh>  LDR's are a lot of work.

-FP
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@vccnw06.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: LDR's
Keywords: light at the end of the tunnel
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:56:23 GMT

pezzillo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Amy J. Pezzillo) writes:

>For the rest of the LDRs out there, I hope the light at the end of
>your tunnel is coming soon!

  Well, for the rest of us mortals, here's a more appropiate quote:

 "Due to budgetary cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel will be
turned off until further notice."

  Food for thought. *CHOMP!*


-- 
Now on sale, in Aisle 5 of the Divine Supermarket---Lives, and Clues.  Buy
yours now and avoid the rush!  They make great Christmas gifts!
Cynicism is only realism projected into the future.
If your fondest wish is to fly, don't draw up plans for flippers.
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 15:41:22 -0500 
From: "Paul S. Hrynko" <ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Merry ho-ho

Hello everyone!  I just wanted to wish the alt.romancers an awesome holliday.  It's the time of year for cuddling up with the one who you love, a time for forgiveness, a time for caring, aoops!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm trying to write on my computer at home (an a
oops again!  an apple IIGS with a primitive program
Well, may Santa or Hanukkah or Whomever bring you all an SO to share to holiday
with.  Mine's in Paris while I'm here in Philadelphia, but love transcends distance

Love, peace, and Happiness,

Paul Hrynko (I don't know how to do my signature on here)

Xref: sparky alt.romance:15638 alt.romance.chat:22731
From: harrisl@equinox.unr.edu (Larry Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Equality...
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:35:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In article <93003.182634ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>1--women don't have the same strength as men....a 110 lb. woman can not carry
>    her partner 25 miles back to a pick up point, and arrive on time

A 110 lb. man couldn't do this also. And BTW folks, don't let anyone convince
you otherwise.

>2-I don't care WHAT kind of training a woman has, she still cannot hit as hard
>    as a man.

You've never been hit by a woman, right?

>3-  Men have an inate behavior towards violance.....a woman would have to be
>    trained, and the training would be too time consuming.

Load the gun, point the gun and pull trigger. Not much to that training
session. BTW, see point two.   

>4- A woman could not do what my partner and I did, in NAM.....I don't care how
>   much training she had, a woman would not have survived.

That's the point. A woman for sure couldn't do what you and your partner
did in Veitnam, but she certainly could do what you did over there.

Sir Aeromaster
__
             Most fight fans would not spend a dime to watch
             Van Gogh paint Sunflowers, but they would fill
             Yankee Stadium to see him cut off his ear......

                     Pat Putnam - Sports Illustrated
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.romance.chat
From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:03:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Dec17.161017.27359@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>In article <92Dec16.063224.19228@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>In article <Bz4C8L.9B7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec11.205926.14731@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>MA ROTFL and grins at Mary... Good one :):)
>>
>>MA tickles Rip and Drieux
>
>Oh yeah!  Tickle torture!  I love it!  ThankyouThankyouThankyou!
>Oooo!  Aaaaahhh!  Oooooo!

MA ties Rip down and proceeds to tickle him with all manner of
tickling devices >:) Didn't realize you loved it so much Rip...
learn something new every day!
TICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLE

>rip(Obedient Slave of MA)

MA snugs Rip while he's tied down grinning evilly as hands
wander....

Mary-Ann (Rip's Mistress)
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Spaz)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 04:04:10 GMT

In article <93002.201921ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>definately the term "equal" needs defining......let's look at it from a
>military point of view.....yes, a woman can fly a jet as good as a man....
>yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
>participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
>nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
>the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
>be about 2 or 3 seconds.

equal has been qualified.

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood)
Subject: Re: I belong to her, and .........
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:20:23 GMT

Thank you so much for this glorification of real love as opposed to
physical love!  It is nice to see that someone else understands why
I stay with my SO even though it sometimes makes me miserable.  We 
are long-distance, and since I don't have a car, the net is out main
communication tool.  (Phone calls and letters are a pain and can get
expensive.)
there is something wrong with this society when all of my peers (I am
17 and in college) try to tell me that waiting for the time when Tracy
and I can be together again isn't worth it, since we've been long
distance for a year and a half and will be for another two.  Do they
not understand that it's all worth it during the assorted weekends
when we can see each other?

Again thank you so very much...it's nice to know that I'm not alone
out here in wanting to be involved in a relationship, not a liason.

By the way, Tracy and I were engaged three months ago (some of you
know him as Master Thespian).  How's that for a ldr working out?

Catherine
aka Lady Firebird
Farmville, NC

--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: espen.aarseth@hf.uib.no (Espen Aarseth)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Followup-To: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Organization: University of Bergen
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 14:24:59 GMT

Strong enough to ...

Abstain from using force where a weaker man would.

and that goes for you women too!

e.
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: lambertn@tirith.carleton.edu (Alas, my love, you do me wrong...)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: Carleton College
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:58:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Reply-To: LAMBERTN@CARLETON.EDU
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <C04w7p.Cxv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes...
>charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen) sez:
> 
>>In article <C04LDD.BL3@world.std.com> aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page) writes:
>>>Strong enough to keep two hearts from breaking.
>>
>>He should be strong enough for a man, but made for a woman.
>>
> 
>sounds reasonable to me!...or, 'strong enough for a man but Done by a
>woman'...to divert myself from the soap quote rather drastically.
> 

Strong enough to carry the man he loves over the threshold?  ;)

(just thought we needed a bit of queer input here.  we now return you to your
regularly scheduled discussion)

--Tam Lin

~-----------------------------------------------------------------------------~
| Nikita "Kii" Lambert           |        LOVE IS THE LAW  --Queer Nation     |
| major: Classical Studies       ~--------------------------------------------~
~--------------------------------~   Gin I were a baron's heir,               |
|lambertn@morgul.acc.carleton.edu|   And could I braid wi' gems your hair,    |
~--------------------------------~   And make ye brauw as ye are fair,        |
|"O I forbid ye, maidens a'      |   Lassie, would you lo'e me?               |
| That wear gowd in your hair    ~--------------------------------------------~ 
| To come or gae by Carterhaugh  |  Love and scandal are the best sweeteners  | 
| For young Tam Lin is there..." |      of tea.                               |
~--------------------------------~--------------------------------------------~
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: DRIEM
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:35:51 GMT

Dave - Silon (Gleeep@cup.portal.com) wrote:

: REMEMBER: There are no 'answers,' only people in search of
: Reddy Kilowatt's parents.

Naaah.  Answers are all around us - just learn to open your eyes to the wonder
of life...
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:31:02 GMT

******************************************************************

Strong enough to keep from *breaking* a heart, through thoughtlessness,
lack of love, or indifference....

****************************************************************** 

T.R. Stone


Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: This Really BITES IT! (Pardon My Language)
Keywords: Rats, RATS, RATS!!!!!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:25:12 GMT



You know what's really maddening about romance and relationships?
It's the irritating irony surrounding their development.  Case in
point:

Through alt.romance I've come in contact with a really fascinating
lady---she's intelligent, romantic, sweet, and eminently cuddly (this
last bit comes from my impression of her after she obligingly described
herself.)  After several E-mail exchanges, I've started to think that I 
just might be falling for this fair maiden, which, in retrospect, may
be the aftermath of an initial, impetuous emotional rush, considering
that we've barely "known" each other for two weeks through the E-mails.
(Oh, yes, go ahead and roll your eyes in disbelief---I can hear you
doing it, and, yeah, I know how all this must sound to you, but that's
the way it is for me.)  Now, you may be asking youself, where is the
"irony" this smitten, bitten cornball mentioned before?  Well, it's
simply this:

I'M here in Nebraska, and SHE'S way up yonder in Canada.

I ask you: Isn't that the way of it?  You wait for years and years
for that certain someone to come along, and when they do, guess what?
They live in another country, a thousand miles away!  Ha-ha-ha, too
bad, so sad!  Do NOT pass "Go", do NOT collect $200!....

....And *that* is why I say unto you, brothers and sisters:  This
really, REALLY bites it.

*Sigh....*

Pardon my language, ladies. 

So, tell me, gang: How many of you (of either gender persuasion) are
in this same (or a similar) boat?

...T.R. Stone 
 
Stuck here in Nebraska, but looking to the North for my Cuddly Canadian,
Rosemary......

 
Xref: sparky alt.romance:15636 alt.romance.chat:22726
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 18:26:34 MST
From: <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Equality...

1--women don't have the same strength as men....a 110 lb. woman can not carry
    her partner 25 miles back to a pick up point, and arrive on time
2-I don't care WHAT kind of training a woman has, she still cannot hit as hard
    as a man.
3-  Men have an inate behavior towards violance.....a woman would have to be
    trained, and the training would be too time consuming.
4- A woman could not do what my partner and I did, in NAM.....I don't care how
   much training she had, a woman would not have survived.
Xref: sparky alt.romance:15521 soc.couples:4465
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:47:17 GMT

In article <92Dec21.170321.31617@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:

**bunch of deleted stuff**

>MA ties Rip down and proceeds to tickle him with all manner of
>tickling devices >:) Didn't realize you loved it so much Rip...
>learn something new every day!
>TICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLETICKLE

Stop!  Stop!  I'm gonna pee my pants!

>MA snugs Rip while he's tied down grinning evilly as hands
>wander....

Thanks for the snugs!  But be careful with those evil hands.... :-)

rip
-- 
Epperson's law:
        When a man says it's a silly, childish game, it's probably
something his wife can beat him at.
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,soc.singles
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 22:48:52 GMT

In article <93002.201921ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>definately the term "equal" needs defining......let's look at it from a
>military point of view.....yes, a woman can fly a jet as good as a man....
>yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
>participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
>nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
>the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
>be about 2 or 3 seconds.

I agree all the way up to the last point.  While it is true that the
*physical* aspects carring around and M60 maybe too much for a woman,
I do think that a woman in the situation of a common soldier is *very*
workable.  Isn't the US still the only country that does not allow a
woman to hold a combat MOS?  I know that women have been fighting
alongside men for years in Isreal, and *alot* of the guerilla outfits
around the world.  Women may not have the sheer physical strength of a
man, but mentally and emotionally they are equal if not a little bit
ahead...

rip
-- 
While having never invented a sin, I'm trying to perfect several.