HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: huettenb@gmd.de (Anna Huettenbach)
Subject: Re: Emacs under MS-Windows (was: MicroEMACS
Reply-To: huettenb@gmd.de
Organization: GMD St. Augustin (FRG)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:34:38 GMT

Hi Dave,

I am interested in the summary of replies to Emacs under MS-Windows. 

Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: gmribeir@david.wheaton.edu (Glauber)
Subject: Re: Is there .rc file for Elvis
Keywords: elvis
Organization: (n.) Body of persons united for a specific purpose.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:37:34 GMT

In article <c99-aa.716156904@danube.Berkeley.EDU> c99-aa@danube.Berkeley.EDU (c99 account) writes:
>
>I've been using Elvis on my PC, and have been happy camper, except...

I expect it is elvis 1.6, right?

>
>1. How do you do comfiguration file of any kind? (what's the name)?

Yes. For PC it is elvis.rc

>2. Can one do key maping in Elvis?

Yes. commands are map and map!, like in vi.

>   
>   (I don't have the source code so I can't look for the answer there)
>   Thanx
>
>   Dmitry

You will have to "RTFM," because it is impossible to explain
the whole thing here. Elvis will look for a file called
elvis.rc in the directory that is pointed to by the home
environment variable (set home=some_directory_name).

The easiest way to create an elvis.rc in elvis 1.6 is to
configure using :set and :map commands from inside the
editor, then issue the command :makerc
This will create an elvis.rc for you, with the present
settings.

You can map any keys you want, including function keys and
shifted function keys.

If you don't have version 1.6, it's worth getting it. If you
want help getting it, send me email.


						Glauber


-- 
Glauber Ribeiro - Wheaton College, IL  (USA)
                  glauber@david.wheaton.edu 
                  glauber@vpnet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: siva@a.cs.okstate.edu (KAVUTURU SIVA RAMA)
Subject: Search for an editor like Norton Editor on UNIX
Followup-To:  siva@a.cs.okstate.edu
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:33:49 GMT


     Hai,
          I am very much interested in Norton Editor ( PC version ). I would
          like to find the same type of editor on UNIX. If any one is having
          any information please send me.

          Thank you.
From: tgtcmv@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Martien Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: VI Mapping Help
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:16:30 GMT
Reply-To: tgtcmv@urc.tue.nl

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>I am using remapping commands to do some common tasks in vi in a smaller
>amount of time.  If I place the map commands in the .exrc file, or the
>.login file, these keyboard remappings work when I edit a file in my home
>directory, but somehow they don't show up if I'm working in any
>subdirectory.  Can any of you gurus tell me why this is happenning?  My
>setting commands in the .exrc file and .login file (e.g. wrapmargin = n)
>translate to the subdirectories, so this is very confusing behavior.
>-- 

>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Normally vi looks for a .exrc in the current directory first, then, if it
doesn't find one, in the directory that is contained by the environment
variable HOME (your home-directory), and then executes.
When you set the EXINIT variable, it will always execute the contents of this,
then look for a .exrc in the current dir, but it doesn't look in your home
directory anymore. (at least the vi versions I worked with didn't).
It took me a very long time to figure this out. Nowadays I don't set EXINIT,
but only keep a .exrc in my home and every other directory where it has to be
different (fortran, c, and so on).
This means that vi always uses the .exrc in my home, except when the current
directory contains one.

Hope this helps.
-- 
Martien Verbruggen (tgtcmv@chem.tue.nl) | 
                                        | If two wrongs don't make a right,
Eindhoven University of technology      |     try three.
Department of Chemical Engineering      |
Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: sb6fcb@sb601.rivm.nl (F.Bourgeois A2104 t2962)
Subject: Experience with MiniEd ?
Originator: sb6fcb@sb601
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:16:48 GMT

We think of going to use a DOS editor, called MiniEd, within an
application for about 40 users. So the product must be robust.
	- Has anybody positive/negative experiences with MiniEd ?
	- Is there a version that runs under UNIX (HP-UX 8.0) ?

We want to build special features in this editor ourselves,
i.e. some greek characters, underlining, other special characters
like 'degrees' character etc.
	- Has anybody done such a thing before with MiniEd ?
	- Is it a time-consuming job ?
	- Is there a better editor than MiniEd when we want features
	  like the ones above?

Please reply by email. Will summarize the answers.

-- 
Francois Bourgeois, postbak 15, Risk Assessment     | e-mail: sb6fcb@rivm.nl
  Division, National Institute of Public Health     | e-mail: ccefcb@rivm.nl
  and Environmental Protection , P.O.Box 1,         |  voice: +31 30 742962
3720 BA  Bilthoven, The Netherlands                 |    fax: +31 30 291492
From: kevinl@tisdec.tis.tandy.com
Date: 09 Sep 92 08:02 CDT
Newsgroups: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Recommendation on editor for C 
Message-ID: <4900002@tisdec.tis.tandy.com>
Nf-ID: #R:cs.ubc.ca:4268:tisdec.tis.tandy.com:4900002:000:913
Nf-From: tisdec.tis.tandy.com!kevinl    Sep  9 08:02:00 1992


	I just got in my brief 3.1 from Borland and from what I've read,
it is supposed to be _completely_ programmable, ie you should be able to
program the keys: { } [ ] ( ), and any other.  Its macro language is C-like
and compileable.
	However, it comes with a nice C-language package that is customizable
to your indenting style (though I'm not sure what you'd have to do for the
parenthesies the way you like them).
	So far, I don't like the way the keys are setup, but they are
configurable, so I'll be changing them.   It has a up-to-300 level
undo.  Multiple windows (vertical, horizontal, or whatever).  Mouse support
(though so far, I don't think it's very _good_ mouse support).  And lots
lots more.
	My biggest gripe is the setup.exe which either installs or
reconfigures brief.  It could be easier to use.  And I hate the way it
has to edit so many files every time it is used.

Hope all of this helps 8-)

Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: Reformatting paragraphs in vile
Summary: How do I adjust the paragraph reformatting behaviour of vile 3.25?
Keywords: vile paragraph
Organization: University of Victoria
Date:  7 Sep 92 21:35:05 GMT

1.	How do I adjust the paragraph-formatting behaviour of vile 3.25? 
	I'd like the paragraph delimiter to be a single carriage return. 
	This way (I think) it would be possible to reformat a whole document
	with the need for separating paragraphs with blank lines.  As it is
	now, without blank line a document gets reformatted into one huge
	paragraph.

    I've tried setting the "paragraphs" editor mode to "\\n\" but vile
	says this is a bad pattern.  I don't know enough about regular
	expressions to be sure what I should be doing here.

2.  The reformat command seems to want sentences separated by two
    spaces.  Is there a way to adjust this to one space?

	Thanks.

	Michael.
--
Michael O'Henly                 
McPherson Library                Internet:  lux@sol.uvic.ca
University of Victoria                      lux@uvvm.uvic.ca
Victoria, B.C., Canada             BITNET:  lux@uvvm



Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: VI Mapping Help
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:24:32 CDT

I am using remapping commands to do some common tasks in vi in a smaller
amount of time.  If I place the map commands in the .exrc file, or the
.login file, these keyboard remappings work when I edit a file in my home
directory, but somehow they don't show up if I'm working in any
subdirectory.  Can any of you gurus tell me why this is happenning?  My
setting commands in the .exrc file and .login file (e.g. wrapmargin = n)
translate to the subdirectories, so this is very confusing behavior.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.editors
From: kehcheng@netcom.com (Keh-Cheng Chu)
Subject: Re: Is there .rc file for Elvis
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 00:59:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Rob Hutten (rob@dragon.acadiau.ca) wrote:
: c99-aa@danube.Berkeley.EDU (c99 account) writes:
: 
: >I've been using Elvis on my PC, and have been happy camper, except...
: >1. How do you do comfiguration file of any kind? (what's the name)?
: 
: I couldn't figger out a way of forcing elvis to read a exrc file,
: so I kludged a vi.bat file which looks like this:
: 
: elvis +"so c:\elvis\exrc" %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9

The name of the rc file is ELVIS.RC.  Put it in directory c:\xyz (for
example) and do SET HOME=C:\XYZ before you execute elvis.

Keh-Cheng
From: takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji)
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
Subject: Re: Looking for the ftp site of previous postings
Date: 12 Sep 1992 23:03:29 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu

From news@cs.duke.edu Fri Sep 11 20:34:45 1992
To: comp-internet-library@mcnc.org
From: phusek@scratchy.phy.duke.edu (Paul Husek)
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
Subject: FIDO
Message-Id: <5269@news.duke.edu>
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:42:37 GMT
Status: R



        Does anyone know if I can get a message from 
internet to FIDO?    
(which is I guess a BBS kind of link)

        If so could you send me mail directly?



                                Many thanks,


                                p
From: takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji)
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
Subject: New library in your list.
Date: 8 Sep 1992 18:14:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu

From toocool@freja.diku.dk Mon Sep  7 06:33:34 1992
Received: by freja.diku.dk id AA02351
  (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5 for library@axon.eeap.cwru.edu); Mon, 7 Sep 92 12:41:33 +0200
From: Peter Lau Hansen <toocool@diku.dk>
Message-Id: <9209071041.AA02351@freja.diku.dk>
Subject: New library in your list.
To: library@axon.eeap.cwru.edu
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 12:41:31 MET DST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: R

Greetings!

I just found your list over libraries around the world, and it's great.
Here's one more for you. It's the Royal Danish Library and the library
of the University of Copenhagen.

To access:      Telnet 129.142.161.005
                hit <<ESC>>
                write <<rex>>
                passwd is <<kb rex>>

For a English tutorial to the system write ?guide

The library  should have about 7 mill. books.

By the way, if you have got the address to the British Library I would really
like it.


Thanks in advance.

  *****************************************************************
  *  toocool@diku.dk          *    Department of Computer Science *
  *  Peter Lau Hansen         *      University of Copenhagen     *
  *****************************************************************
  *  Law, without force, is impotent                              *
  *           --- Pascal.                                         *
  *****************************************************************
From: takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji)
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
Subject: Performing Arts
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:02:49 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu

From news@manuel.anu.edu.au Wed Sep  9 22:35:41 1992
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
From: gustav@arp.anu.edu.au (Zdzislaw Meglicki)
Subject: Performing Arts
Message-Id: <1992Sep10.024238.17638@newshost.anu.edu.au>
Keywords: library, electronic access, performing arts, catalogues
Organization: Centre for Information Science Research, ANU, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:42:38 GMT
Apparently-To: comp-internet-library@munnari.oz.au
Status: R

Dear Librarians,

I've been trying to find out about electronic access (telnet?) to
Performing Arts collections located at

        1) Harvard University Library
        2) New York Public Library
        3) San Francisco Performing Arts Library and Museum

I would be most gratful if you could provide me with corresponding
Internet addresses and host names.

Please reply to
        gustav@arp.anu.edu.au
--
   Zdzislaw Gustav Meglicki, gustav@arp.anu.edu.au,
   Automated Reasoning Project - CISR, and Plasma Theory Group - RSPhysS,
   The Australian National University, G.P.O. Box 4, Canberra, A.C.T., 2601,
   Australia, fax: (Australia)-6-249-0747, tel: (Australia)-6-249-0158
From: takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji)
Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
Subject: New Library Listing
Date: 10 Sep 1992 22:07:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, CWRU, Cleve. OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu

From kevin_dunn@qmail.ssc.gov Thu Sep 10 17:10:23 1992
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:25:26 U
From: "Kevin Dunn" <kevin_dunn@qmail.ssc.gov>
Subject: New Library Listing
To: library@axon.eeap.cwru.edu
Status: R

                       Subject:                               Time:16:17
  OFFICE MEMO          New Library Listing                    Date:9/10/92
Abilene Library Consortium
Unified listing of the holdings of:
Abilene Christian University - Abilene, Texas USA
McMurry University - Abilene, Texas USA
Hardin Simmons University - Abilene, Texas USA
City of Abilene Public Library System - Abilene, Texas USA

Internet Address: alcon.acu.edu
username: acupac
password: <<none>>

Instructions for use are given in a login banner.
Note: I am not a staff member of any of the library staffs involved in this
project. I just found it out there. No information on access policy is
available.

Kevin Dunn
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: CPU and speed question
From: dfields@hydra.urbana.mcd.mot.com (David Fields)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:48:59 GMT
Reply-To: dfields@urbana.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Inc.  Computer Group
Keywords: thanks

In article <BuBMC0.K3w@pix.com>, stripes@pix.com (Josh Osborne) writes:
|> [I think this is Dana Jacobsen jacobsd@solar.cor2.epa.gov, but can't tell from
|> the prev message]
|> 
|> >Operation      Moto 88110    TI SuperSPARC     DEC  Alpha
|> >
|> >Int add/sub        1/    1        1/   1          1/1-2
|> >Int mul            1/    3        4/   4      19-23/19-23
|> >Int div           18/   18       18/  18          ---
|> >FP add/sub         1/    3        1/   1          1/ 6
|> >FP mul             1/    3        1/   3          1/ 6
|> >FP div         13-26/23-26    6- 9/ 6- 9      30-63/30-63
|> >FP sqrt            ???        7-12/ 8-12          ???
|> 
|> Am I right in assuming that 1/3 means "1 outstanding (max) 3 cycles to
|> complete", or is it something else?

I'm not sure what this means for other processors but for the '110
it means that the cpu can issue one every cycle and each operation
has a latency of 3 cycles.
--
Dave Fields	Motorola Computer Group		dfields@urbana.mcd.mot.com
SVR4: The Winchester Mystery Kernel		uiucuxc!udc!dfields
From: gupta@crhc.uiuc.edu (Aloke Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Question: book on computer system performance evaluation
Date: 5 Sep 1992 20:06:14 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: polaris.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: MIPS, MFLOPS, queuing models, analytical models

lus@ucs.orst.edu (Shih-Lien Lu) writes:

>Is there any good book which covers the performance measurement/modeling
>of computer systems? Thanks.

>Shih-Lien

My favorite is "The Art of Computer Systems Performance Analysis", by Raj Jain,
John Wiley and Sons, 1991.

Aloke
-- 
Aloke Gupta                                         E-mail: gupta@crhc.uiuc.edu
Coordinated Science Laboratory                           or a-gupta@uiuc.edu
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Xref: sparky comp.arch:9326 comp.lang.misc:2995
Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.misc
From: des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: "Training" of programmers
Organization: INMOS architecture group
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 09:58:26 BST

In article <1992Sep8.134351.24043@bohra.cpg.oz.au>, daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull) writes:
>To me software engineering is a little like driving a car.  You get to square
>one by reading the manual or taking some lessons, getting a mate to show you
>etc.  The real learning however takes place once you hit the road on your
>own... and god heap anyone who gets in your way during the first couple of
>months.  

yes ... i can remember when my driving instructor told me that
the best way to drive a car was to keep going until you hit
someone else, get out of the car and try to find out why you hit
them, get back in, back off, take a corrected path through the
traffic and wait till you hit someone else. after a few hours
of accident free driving then you'd learn.

BTW :-)

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                inmos ltd, 1000 aztec west, almondsbury, bristol, bs12 4sq
                1992: celebrate the quincentenary of columbus getting lost
Newsgroups: comp.arch,sci.math,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.fortran,comp.edu
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Scientists as Programmers (was Re: Small Language Wanted)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:23:17 GMT

In article <Bu2r42.5xr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
> There has been discussion on some of these groups about the lack of nxn -> 2n
> multiplication, where n is the integer word size;
> But I know of no HLL which allows writing this.

C:
	int a, b;
	long c;

	c = a * b;

Fortran:
	INTEGER*2 A, B
	INTEGER*4 C

	C = A * B

I've used both of these on the PDP-11, and gotten the expected 2x2->4 multiply
in the generated code. Forth includes the referenced operation directly.

Blame the people who did the VAX C compiler if you can't do it on your RISC
of the month. LONG on the VAX-11 should have been 64 bits. It's not a language
shortcoming.

> There is also the comparable division operation.

	int a, b, d;
	long c;

	a = c / d;
	b = c % d;

> The use of these features is portable.

Pretty much.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
+1 713 274 5180                                   Har du kramat din varg idag?
Newsgroups: comp.arch
From: na@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Nita Avalani)
Subject: Looking for someone to design and build a printed circuit board
Followup-To: na@phoenix.princeton.edu 
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:18:17 GMT


Looking for someone to design and build a special purpose printed
circuit board with the following specs:

                                                               ------
                                           --------           |      |
            ---------		          | DACS   |     --|)---O    |
          | 	     |                    |        |     |    |      |
  ------->|  cpu     |<-------------------|  8     |--|)--------O    |
  |       |          |             |      |   x    |          |      |
  |        ---------               |      |    12  |          |      |
  |            |                   |      |        |          |      |
 -----         |                   |       --------           | DB25 |
| i/o | ---------------            |                          |      |
 ----- | Dual ported   |           |                          |      |
       |     RAM       |<------    |                          |      |
       |  1 MB or 512  |      |    |                          |      |
        ---------------      ---   |                          |      |
                            |i/o|  |       ---                |      |
                             ---   -------|PIA|------------------O   | 
        ------------------    |            ---                |      |
       |   |    |    |    |<---                               |      |
       |  \ /  \ /  \ /   |				       ------
        ------------------


If you have any experience with design, wire-wrap prototype, to the 
final product, and can produce the above at a reasonable cost, please
contact.


Newsgroups: comp.arch
From: neideck@nestvx.enet.dec.com (Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz)
Subject: Re: Are 64 Int or FP registers useful?
Organization: CEC Karlsruhe
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 07:41:23 GMT


Most compilers couldn't deal with that many registers. A good paper about
a compiler system that could is:

	David W. Wall "Global register allocation at link-time"

	Proceedings og the SIGPLAN 86 Symposium on Compiler Construction
	pp. 264-275. Published as SIGPLAN Notices 21(7),July 1986. Also
	available as WRL Research Report 86/3.

and/or

	David W. Wall "Register Windows versus Register Allocation"

	Proceedings og the SIGPLAN 88 Conference on Programming Language
	Design and Implementation, pp. 67-78. 
	Published as SIGPLAN Notices 23(7),July 1988. Also
	available as WRL Research Report 87/5.

	
For retrieving the WRL Research reports send an electronic
mail to

	WRL-Techreports@decwrl.dec.com

with a Subject line of "help".

		Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz

Multimedia Engineering, CEC Karlsruhe	   EERP Portfolio Manager
Software Motion Pictures		   Multimedia Base Technology
Digital Equipment Corporation
neidecker@nestvx.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.arch
From: jjackson@carlrs6000.carl.ua.edu (Jeff Jackson)
Subject: Adder Designs in Modern Microprocessors 
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:05:53 GMT

i
And now back to computer architecture related material.....

Out of curiosity and for general distribution to my computer engineering
class, I am trying to compile information on various integer unit adder
designs used in current micros (i.e. any RISC, 486, 68XXX, etc.)

I am especially interested in the following points:

  1. Adder configuration: ripple carry, RC (doubtful); carry lookahead, CLA
                          RC-CLA hybrids, carry skip (single or multistage),
                          carry select, others?

  2. Propagation delay time through the adder. (gate and line delays)

  3. Implementation Technology

  4. Die area utilized: square mils or % of total area. The latter is probably
     more interesting to me.

  5. Presence of multiple ALUs.

  6. Evolution of adder design from earlier micros.

Is there a common source for this information?  Thanks in advance.

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