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From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: National Victim Center to Provide Training, Assistance
Organization: NDA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:47:46 GMT

Here is a press release from the U.S. Department of Justice.

 National Victim Center to Provide Training, Assistance to Improve
Prosecutors' Response to Crime Victims
 To: National Desk
 Contact: Stu Smith of the Office of Justice Programs,
          U.S. Department of Justice, 202-307-0784 or
          301-983-9354 (after hours)

   WASHINGTON, Oct. 8  -- The U.S. Department of Justice
announced today that the Office for Victims of Crime (OVC), a
component of the Department's Office of Justice Programs (OJP), has
awarded the National Victim Center of Fort Worth, Texas, $210,000 to
develop and test a training curriculum focused on improving the
response of federal, state, and local prosecutors to victims of
crime.
   "Prosecutors play a key role in ensuring that the criminal justice
system responds to the interests and concerns of innocent victims of
crime," said Steven D. Dillingham, OJP acting assistant attorney
general.  "Prosecutors have a responsibility to keep victims informed
about their cases and to bring victims' views to the attention of the
court before judicial decisions a remade.  This program will assist
prosecutors at all levels of government in meeting those
responsibilities."
   The project will develop and conduct training for federal
victim-witness coordinators from United States Attorneys' Offices;
develop and pilot test a training curriculum for state and local
prosecutors and their staffs; and develop and disseminate model
guidelines on drafting victim impact statements.  Technical
assistance also will be provided to federal victim-witness
coordinators and state and local prosecutorial personnel.
   The Office for Victims of Crime serves as the federal focal point
for addressing the needs and improving the treatment of crime
victims.  OVC provides federal leadership, funding, training, and
other assistance to improve the nation's treatment of crime victims.
   OVC also administers the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (VOCA),
which created a Crime Victims Fund in the U.S. Treasury to provide
federal financial assistance to compensate and assist victims of
crime.  Monies deposited into the fund come, not from hard-working
taxpayers, but from fines and penalties paid by convicted federal
criminals.  In Fiscal Year 1992, OVC awarded more than $121 million
to states to support state and local crime victim compensation and
assistance programs.
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Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: JD != "lawyer" (was: What a Problem!!!
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:45:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.133230.22022@walter.cray.com> jsw@cray.com writes:

>Knowing the law (constitutional, civil, whatever) does not make a good
>lawyer from my laymans perspective. Knowing how the court works in the
>real world (experience) is the only basis for a good attorney. Where they
>went to school and what grades they received is irrelevent in most cases.
>A good attorney knows who is in bed with the judge, so to speak.

One can know all this and still be a bad attorney. Good attorneys
know *both* the law *and* the dynamics of the courts in which they
practice, if in fact they practice in courts.


--Mike




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From: brian_parry@claris.com (brian parry)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Stair stepper for sale (bay area only)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:22:50 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: claris

Stair Stepper Exerciser

Large air resistance stair stepper from Sears.
Very sturdy - no cheap hydrolic shock to wearout.
Has cushioned back rest for leaning and stepping.
Less than 1 year old.
Excellant condition because it has hardly been used.
Was $249 new.
Asking $125 and I'll deliver anywhere in the south bay.

Contact Brian Parry
(408) 987-7579
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: split routine question
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:25:07 GMT

>From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)

>I don't understand why people do their routine in the above order.. Upper
>body for 2 days then legs?? A much better routine would be Upper, Lower, Upper

If you do Upper Lower Upper, what comes *next*? Upper right? so that means
Upper Lower Upper Upper ...

> Move your leg routine to split the
>upper body work and I'd almost guarantee better results!

Not necessarily. it all depends on how many days a week you workout! If
you workout 4 (or more) days per week, with a routine that's split into
3 parts (2 upper body workouts, and 1 leg workout) will rotate so that
sooner or later you will get 2 consecutive upper body workouts.

Janice :-)

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From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Stupid (?) question about fat
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:25:10 GMT
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

From article <1992Oct15.163948.21773@eng.umd.edu>, by georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark):
> 
> Your question is not stupid.
> 
> Fat is an excellent source of energy. It's good for athletes because it
> provides lots of calories without the bulk of carbohydrates. This, for
> example, is why "trail mixes" used by hikers contain nuts and seeds,
> which are loaded with fat.
> 

  A valid point, BUT... It should be made clear that for the purpose of
  supporting an aerobic routine, carbohydrates make themselves available
  in the blood in usable form MUCH more quickly than fat. If the proportion
  of calories consumed is tilted toward the fat side, you will BONK when
  exercising aerobically for any continued period. I just don't want that
  person to get the idea that they can eat 70% of their calories from fats
  and enjoy success in a program of aerobic exercise. It just don't work
  that way.

  Cheers,
-Max
From: sma@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: How much is too much?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:24:57 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I have a question.  is it really possible to go to a point where the exercise
REDUCES muscle bulk.  I have heard, for instance, that after a certain distance
in the marathon, the body starts burning muscle.  Is this true?  How much is
too much.  As an example, someone I know spend 1 -2 hrs on the stepper daily. 
is this sufficient the deplete muscle if that actually happens) or not?


Stephen..
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: love handles
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:50:55 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation

In article <g4rdany@Unify.Com> jenny@dbrus.Unify.Com (Jennifer Zheng) writes:
>
>Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly IS "love handles"???

Fat at the waist.
When the amount is low, you mainly see sideway's drooping looking at oneself in the mirror.
Some on the right and left.  Because ones lover may hug one around the belly, they are call
lover handles.
In some males fat first acculumates and last leave the belly area.
From: v126pt49@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert P Baccaray)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Flat Butt
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've got flat butt.  What weight exercises or any exercises can I do to make my
rear end look healthier?
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Clenbuterol Clarification
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:11:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Oct6.035814.383@nntp.uoregon.edu> mtp@oregon.uoregon.edu (Matthias Pohl) writes:
>
>BTW, Clenbuterol plus (marketed by Strength Systems) actually seems to contain what the label says. However at a dosage of 20 mcg (mcg = microgram; 1000 mcg = 1 mg) per tablet...well, as the effective dosage is somewhere between 10 and 25 mg/ day one would have to swallow a lot of tablets :). I figure that because of this low concentration the FDA con-
>siders Clenbuterol plus homeopathetic and therefore does not impose any
>sales restrictions.
>
>/Matthias

Where the hell did you get this information.  20mcg is the normal dosage per
tablet of the DRUG Clenbuterol.  Sorry, Matthias, but if you believe the
"real" Clenbuterol is contained in that product by the corrupt company
Strength Systems, you will lose all credability with me and lots of others
on the net.

How do you actually know that Clenbuterol Plus actually contains Clenbuterol?
I don't know how they word it on the label, but it's not the real Clenbuterol
that is a beta-2 andrenergic agonist.

							-Adam

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: funky@nevada.edu (MATTHEW KAPHAN)
Subject: Re: WeightLifting Books
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:41:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.143542.15260@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.015247.22710@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct8.234535.5685@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>>>In article <s04-g-A@engin.umich.edu> hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone recomend a good weightlifting/body building book?
>>>>I am especially interested in a book written by a MD.
>>
>>	What the hell does a MD know about Weightlifting!
>
>If he's a former competitive athlete who also happens to be a sports-
>medicine physician, like Gabe Mirkin, he knows quite a bit.
>

  Try the 'Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding' by Arnold Schwarzenneger.  
Although he contradicts himself in some areas, the book has great explanations
of exercises and other things.


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From: root@logiconultra.com
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Testing
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:52:51 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Logicon_Ultrasystems
Originator: root@stealth.logiconultra.com

This is just a test...sorry
From: sgb2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN G. BUELL)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Side Deltoids
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:49:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct9.034651.14912@nevada.edu>, funky@nevada.edu (MATTHEW KAPHAN)
 writes:
>
>I have been working out for quite a while now, and have noticed good gains
>in all areas of my body except for side deltoids.  What are good mass
>building exercises for the side deltoids?  I have a feeing that I might
>not be doing side laterals the proper way, and it's hard to look at people
>and see how to do it because everybody does it a different way.  Thanks
>in advance.
>
>-Matthew
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>                .sig files are for people who can't change their mind.
>
If your gym has a Nautilus type side lateral machine I would recommend it even
tho I am normally a proponent of free weights.  The lateral raise with
dumbbells is a great mass builder but is one of the most poorly performed
exercises known.  So many people may as well be doing a "clean and raise" and
try to get a running start.  If you must do them, do them seated, with a
weight light enough to handel with strict form.  Do not let the ego get in the
way.  As far as pretending you're pouring water from a pitcher with your pinky
turned up....forget it.  It's not that important.  Don't raise the weight
above shoulder height.  If you have access to the Nautilus machine, use it.
It will keep your form strict and allow you to go all out.  You can do this
one to positive and (with the help of a spotter) negative failure.

Good luck.

Steve
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: Press vs. Flys for Chest 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:06:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.151004.14470@spdc.ti.com> wall@spdc.ti.com (Raj Wall) writes:
>After reading a suggestion here (I don't have the author, sorry), I
>have been doing incline and decline press in addition to regular bench
>press.  At the gym I was told I was wasting my time with incline and
>decline _press_ and what I needed to do was incline and decline
>_flys_.  I appeal to the collected wisdom of the net: Are incline and
>decline press exercises a waste of time?  Should I only do flys?
>Both?  Thanks for your help.
>
>Regards,
>Raj
>wall@csc.ti.com
>
>"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not
> be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
>					9th Amendment, U.S. Constitution
>
>

Flyes are great, and I usually do them at the end of each and every
chest workout: but tell the person who told you than flat/incline
benches are a waste of time that he doesn't know shit.

If you were only to do 2 chest exercises for the rest of your life,
it would be flat and incline presses.

Ron

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Benchpress and Psychology
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:06:43 GMT

In article <92285.161950IK10015@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IK10015@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>I realize that flat bench pressing is more of of a
>'psychological deal' as much as anything but how can
>I overcome this fear of not being able to "bench"
>I've been working out for almost a year now, and I've
>Increased drastically on my other wightlifting cater-
>gories, except'pressing'
>any ideas ??
>send letter via E-mail
>--Michael

I'd like to hear comments on this, so no e-mail.  

What will drive up your bench?  Fear and anger.  No shit.

Work on your form for a few months and experiment with grips, chest
geometry, time of day, etc., etc..

Then get a training partner who is prepared to screw with your mind.
They'll refuse to give you a boost.  They'll watch you squirm.
They'll abuse you verbally and physically.  They'll make sure you
don't kill yourself or get trapped under the bar, but they'll push
you to the edge.  And when you're good and pissed or scared you'll
get smashed under the bar, it'll go up.

Then all the myofibrils and blood chemicals will magically do
their thing because evolution has selected for organisms that
respond to stress by performing.

GMS

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Excessive soreness
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:52:23 GMT

In article <Xs5JsB5w165w@waffle.sns.com> jen@waffle.sns.com (jennifer warshaw) writes:
>I am getting back into shape after 2 years off due to insanity.
>I am having a problem which I had last time I got into shape,
>I get very toxic when my workout gets to 3 sets.  I am doing 
>30-40 minutes of aerobics and weights 4 days a week and since
>I moved up to 3 sets in my weight routine I am incredibly sore
>and stiff with symptoms like the flu during recovery.  The last
>time I got into shape I had this same problem.  Is my body
>learning to recover?  Is there any one out there who has had
>this problem and solved it?  Any suggestions are welcome.  My
>diet is decent, I drink plenty of water, watch my fat intake,
>and LOVE vegetables but these flu-like symptoms, aching over
>my kidneys (not muscle related) eyes sting, feel listless
>what can I do?  Thank you for any ideas you can pass along.
>
>----
>jen@waffle.sns.com  (jennifer warshaw)
>Systems'n'Software Free Public Access BBS --- (510)623-8652

  Im in the same position as far as getting into shape and Im doing about
the same workout.  Im not as bad off as you are, but my body chemistry
is doing some amusing stunts.  I actually PUT ON fat when I started my
aerobics *chuckle* and my appetite oscillates wildly ( & uncomphortably)
who knows?:)
Steve FJR

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Subject: Re: Press vs. Flys for Chest
Originator: glex@nitro
Reply-To: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:30:29 CDT


In article <1992Oct8.230406.7659@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
|> glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner) writes:
|> >You sure do need to change your workout.  Try doing 3 sets of "all out, I 
|> >can't
|> Why are more (than 3?) sets a waste of time?
|> I just went up to 8 from five:  8 u-bench, 8 m-press, & 8 dumbell-press.
|> I've tried fewer sets, but I feel like I don't even get pumped sometimes.
|> How about for squats?

I think if you can do 8 sets of anything you're not working hard enough on
the 1st 3.  Usually if you have a mind set to do 8 reps you'll save a little
on each set.
-- 
glex@nitro.cray.com  === "Difficult tasks are never easy..."
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Muscle Mix?
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:53:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct16.185315.27572
Organization: Western Washington University

culpeppe@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Allen Culpepper) writes:

> Has anyone heard of some stuff called Muscle Mix? I used to see it in 
>the magazines but I never pay any attention to it. A guy I just met said
>he talked to alot of Natural Bodybuilders and his wife runs a healthfood
>store and said the stuff worked real good for promoting size gains. I am
>kinda skeptical but I can't see any reason for him to lie to me. It comes
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	
	What?!!   To promote his wife's store is a reason.  And to promote
a placebo that he has reccomended to others, thus maintaining the "see, I'm
not a crook (or a fool if he buys it), the stuff really works and I'm
still selling and reccomending it" thing in his mind.

>in a bottle and you are supposed to put it under your tongue. I am always
>skeptical of new products claiming stuff like this but have never had someone
>give it a recommendation and I am curious if anyone ever heard of it.

Be skeptical of the old products too.

>Thanks,
>Allen

Jim
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Body fat content
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:12:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: unocal.1992Oct7.151248.16082
Organization: Unocal Corporation

In article <1992Oct7.025715.12788@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> juliano@cs.fsu.edu (Benjoe Juliano) writes:
>
>I recently had my body fat content estimated in our campus gym via the
>caliper method.  I know this is more unreliable than other methods that
>are available (whichever there are).  But I got the following table of
>ranges for interpreting body fat % in men:
>
>
>				MALE	FEMALE
>
>		Excellent	 <10
>		Good		11-13
>		Average		14-20
>		Fair		21-23
>		Poor		 >24

Although lower is better, lowest may not be best.
For females when the bodyfat gets too low, the reproductive system turns off
and the bones start decalcifying and become brittle.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.climbing
From: ych@cs.utah.edu (Yuan Hsieh)
Subject: Re: Workout From Hell, anyone?
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:07:26 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: na

In article <Bw84In.989@cs.dal.ca> gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier) writes:
>At some point in the past year or two there was a message posted by a
>rock climber containing a workout routine. It was called the Workout From
>Hell (WFH). It was designed to increase strength and indurance without
>increasing muscle mass too much. Since I've taken up climbing and the season
>is drawing to a close I'd like to try this training routine during the
>off-season.

I was just reading my friend's copy of Rock and Ice this morning and
(#41 pp. 43-45), there is this short article from John Long called 
"Workout From Hell - Postscript".  If this is the one you want, the original 
article was published in Rock and Ice #39, according to this article.
 

-Y'


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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,sci.med
Subject: Re: numb hands
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:12:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct13.221221.26139
Organization: Western Washington University

tmwhited@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Toni M. Whited) writes:

>I have recently started using wrist straps to do pullups; you know, those
>things that secure themselves around your wrists and that you wrap around the
>pullup bar.  I have been experiencing a slight numb feeling in my little
>fingers since I started this.  I have no idea if there is any causation
>involved here, only correlation. So I would like to know if anybody has
>had a similar experience, and, if so, if there is any simple remedy.

There are finger nerves that are easy to irritate or damage.

I did some work for about a month that involved the extensive use of
tongs, where I would be gripping them for hours nonstop.  I developed
numbness in my index finger, and to this day the tip of it is still
numb.

Be careful because you can do permanant damage to nerves.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Subject: Re: In-Line Skating...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:16:22 GMT

In article <54452@dime.cs.umass.edu> rjudy@dime.cs.umass.edu (Judy Ruot) writes:
>In article <6910018@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> karlf@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Karl Fengler) writes:
>>Anyone out there who "Inline Skates"? (rollerblading) Haven't seen any
>>entries in "misc.fitness". Is there a seperste group out there somewhere?
>>Anyway, if you know of a "Inline Skates" group, let me know.
>>
>  Yeah, I inline skate.  I think there is a separate group for this
>  sport, it may be hooked to the rec.sport.hockey group.  I've never
>  been able to find or acces it though.
>
>Judy
>
judy, the rec.skate group is where all the inline and figure skating folks
hang out.  lots of prima donnas over there.........:)

poobear