From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Subject: Re: What do "Uri Woll" and "Boghosian" have in common? ASALA/SDPA/ARF?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 20:02:15 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <1iglk0INN5eo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bv652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ilan Uri Woll) writes:

>>No wonder you support the extermination of defenseless Muslim people
>>by the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle. We are neither in x-Soviet Union, 

>Support it, I insist on it dammit.

Hmmm. I'll see if I can get ol' "Memet" to write you a letter, giving
you and your criminal handlers at the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle
some military pointers, like how to shoot at armed adult males instead of
small children and pregnant women.

Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, 
Inc., New York (1952). 
(Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 
 million Muslim people)

p. 361 (fourth paragraph).

"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, 
 large eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble 
 where meal lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet 
 had gone through her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between 
 the breasts one clot, too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun 
 dress.

 The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He 
 lay face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the 
 pewter bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed 
 just below his neck, into the spine. 

 There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was 
 empty of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking 
 colonel. He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead."

>>nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship, that employs 
>>the dictates of Dro to quell domestic unrest. Also, feel free to distribute 
>>all responses to your nearest ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists, the Armenian 
>>pseudo-scholars, or to those affiliated with the Armenian criminal 
>>organizations. Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million 
>>Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. 
>>You, and those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up.

>Just did, how about that, did a pretty good job too.

Not a chance. During the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, 
the Armenian Dictatorship through a premeditated and systematic genocide, 
tried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against the 
Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting 
the rest from their 1,000 year homeland.

The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance of 
Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people. This event 
is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government and international 
political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark Bristol, William Langer, 
Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford Shaw, Arthur Chester, John 
Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco 
Villalta, General Nikolayef, General Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, 
General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General 
Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, 
General Bronsart, Arfa, Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, 
Katchaznouni, Rachel Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul 
Muratoff and many others.
J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of
the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.
Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,
Princeton University.
Halil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of
the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago.
Peter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark.
Stanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at
Los Angeles.
Thomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research
Institute, University of Pennsylvania.
Ronald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies,
University of Illinois.
Howard Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut.
Dankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political
Science, City University Graduate School, New York.
John Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, 
University of Chicago.
John Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of
California at Berkeley.
Alan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University.
Avigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University.
Andreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California
at Los Angeles.
Kathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.
Roderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University.
Walter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts.
Caesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota.
Tom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
Tibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.
Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.
Jon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon).
Robert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky.
Madeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland.
James Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan.
.......so the list goes on and on and on.....

>>        Remembering 
>>
>>       Orhan Gunduz
>>
>>on his 9th Anniversary of Brutal Assassination by Armenian Terrorists.
>>
>>TACS (The Turkish American Cultural Society of New England) will hold a 
>>memorial service for the Honorary Counsel General of Turkey to Boston, 
>>late Orhan Gunduz.
>>
>>Cemetery. Time: 10:30 AM
>>
>>TACS invites everybody, especially those families who have lost their 
>>closest ones during the Turkish Genocide, to come for the memorial service.

>Oh good, I'll get my rifle and scope ready, thanks for letting me know.

Can you spell "Mehmetcik"?

>>Le Matin further adds that ASALA derives only a small portion of its
>>expenditures from wealthy Armenians who support the cause, with the rest 
>>coming either from other sources or from proceeds of an involvement in
>>drug trafficking. The paper asserts that Bulgarian authorities also assist
>>ASALA in obtaining all types of weapons that are used against Turkish targets 
>>and diplomats."

>That's not true, I gave them all their money, so there Nyahh!

Owollian. Did you ever read newspaper at all?

Source: Alan Cowell, 'U.S. & Greece in Dispute on Terror,' The New
        York Times, June 27, 1987, p. 4.

                    Special to The New York Times

ATHENS, June 26 - A dispute developed today between Athens and 
Washington over United States intelligence reports saying that 
Athens, for several months, conducted negotiations with the
terrorist known as Abu Nidal...

They said the contacts were verified in what were termed hard
intelligence reports.

Abu Nidal leads the Palestinian splinter group Al Fatah 
Revolutionary Council, implicated in the 1985 airport 
bombings at Rome and Vienna that contributed to the Reagan 
Administration's decision to bomb Tripoli, Libya, last year.

In Washington, State Department officials said that when
Administration officials learned about the contacts, the
State Department drafted a strongly worded demarche. The
officials also expressed unhappiness with Greece's dealings
with ASALA, the Armenian Liberation Army, which has carried
out terrorist acts against Turks....

>>Source: The British Broadcasting Corporation, Summary of World Broadcasts,
>>July 6, 1987: Part 4-A: The Middle East, p. ME/8612/A/1.
>>
>>Excerpt:
>>The Israeli secret service, Mossad, is reported to have acquired significant
>>information in connection with the camps set up in the Troodos mountains in
>>Cyprus for the training of militants of the PKK and ASALA [Armenian Secret
>>Army for the Liberation of Armenia].... The same sources stated that Abu 
>>Nidal's special advisers are giving military training to the PKK and ASALA
>>militants in the camps...
>>
>>Mossad revealed that the Armenian National Movement, which is known as the
>>MNA, has opened liaison offices in Nicosia, Athens and Tripoli in order to
>>meet the needs of the camps.

>Yeah, Abu and I are tight, I inspected the camps myself.

Is that what turns you on?

>>                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
>>                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
>>                      SERVE[B as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
>>                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
>>                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
 
>No, it was me, bugarlips.

Nope. I am forced to disagree with you.

 "Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against
  Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic
  of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,
  are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide 
  perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the
  Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these
  lands."         (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)

Serdar Argic

                           'We closed the roads and mountain passes that 
                            might serve as ways of escape for the Turks 
                            and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
                           'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists 
                            a single Turkish soul.'    (Sahak Melkonian)


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