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From: leff@sco.COM (Bill Leff)
Subject: Re: Santana tone info wanted
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:21:08 GMT


In article <1993Jan26.065702.10886@midway.uchicago.edu> kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Hello out there,
>
>	Last night I had the pleasure of having my first exposure to the music
>of Carlos Santana (ABRAXAS).  I noticed his seemingly endless sustain, as well
>as an interesting semi-dirty tone.  What exactly does he use to get that 
>unique sound of his, as far as specfic guitars, amps, etc.?  Thanks a lot.
>
>-Kai Martin (kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu)

Carlos uses a Mesa Boogie Mark I amp (head or combo) with 12" speaker
with open back cabinets. He uses a PRS guitar with old Gibson PAF
humbucking pickups. He's also used a Strat occasionally and used
to use a Gibson ES-335. He uses a wah-wah, but no distortion pedals,
to my knowledge. I think I may have seen pictures of him with a
Gibson SG as well.


-- 
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The number one reason why we're here (from David Letterman's Top 10):
"To polka, baby, polka"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: psanders@ll.mit.edu (Pete Sanders)
Subject: Tube Amp Books
Originator: psanders@ll.mit.edu (Pete Sanders)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:40:25 GMT

	I'm fairly new to this newsgroup, and I would like to get some info.

	I've been fooling around with tube amps for a few years now, but I
have never heard of these "Tube Amp Books". Could someone provide me with
an address and possibly a phone number of where I can order Aspen Pittman's
Tube Amp Books? Please email the info (psanders@ll.mit.edu).

	Any help would be appriciated.

	Thanks

	Pete
From: harmon@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (matt harmon)
Subject: Tube sound fuzz
Summary: I built the TSF
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Keywords: guitar fx
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:12:36 GMT

BTW, I built the Tube Sound Fuzz which appears in Electronic Prijects for
Musicians by Craig Anderton.  I really like the sound hovever I am
contemplating an improved design.  First off, it clips on the negative swing
earlier/harder than the positive swing.  Asymmetrical distortion can be
non-musical but in this case it is not.  Secondly, in its printed config, it
has too much bass response (dubbed "flub" by my amp building friend Jim
Kelley).  This gives it a neat 60's Norman Greenbaum kind of tone but really
sucks for low Hendrix/VanHalen stuff.  Finally, the intensity control has a
dramatic affect on the output level.  This is not baffling, simply
inconvenient.  Especially if you do as I did and wire the lead/rhythm switch as
a foot switch to punch in for that screaming solo.  If you were to do this, you
increase from 10 to about 200 in gain and run the risk of blowing input stages
on your amp.   All three of these things are soluble and I might get around to
prototyping an improved circuit.  If anyone is interested in the results, let
me know as it will affect my motivation in making the improvements.

							Matt Harmon
							Blah Blah Blah
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:12:04 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: JC120 mods
Summary: Modifications to JC120 amp
Keywords: amplifiers
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Urban Legends
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:30:24 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1k43i7INNp5j@shelley.u.washington.edu>, jmstreck@carson.u.washington.edu (John Streck) writes...
>Similarly, I was told once that when Eric Clapton was asked the same question
>after Jimi Hendrix died, his response was "I'm not, Phil Keaggy is."
> 

This is quite unlikely, since Keaggy was totally unknown in 1970.  At the time
he was in Glass Harp, and a long way from the master of the instrument he is
today.

					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: guy@harlqn.co.uk (Guy Snape)
Subject: ACOUSTIC mailing list
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:39:58 GMT

Hi.

After another abortive post yesterday....  :-(
Following my post a week or so ago, seeking acoustic fingerstyle
players, Kevin Smith from Warwick has very kindly offered to set up a
mailing list facility for those of us who are interested in this kind
of thing. 

We've been discussing guitar makes/models, particular artists' styles,
alternate tunings and tab books/instruction tapes etc. especially the
stuff from Stefan Grossman's Guitar Workshop.  The styles we're
interested in include country blues, ragtime, folk, baroque, jazz,
etc. etc. etc.

If you want to be on the list, please send mail to

guit-request@csv.warwick.ac.uk 

To contact all the other people on the list, send your interesting and
relevant :-) message to 

guit@csv.warwick.ac.uk  

If there is a huge amount of interest, we will consider applying for
newsgroup status.

PLEASE do not abuse this system by sending flames/adverts/irrelevant
material (and that includes Yngwie Malmsteen tabs!).  Thanks.

Look forward to chatting en masse!

Guy

-------------------------	            Guy Snape
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Subject: Guitar GIF's
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:44:32 GMT


I only saw EDDIE2.GIF on a.b.p.  Where are the rest?  If my site didn't get 
them, please mail them to me.

Thanks,
--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: bigelos@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Steve Bigelow)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Wanted:  Fender Telecaster  (American made)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:15:16 GMT
Organization: ECE Dept.,OSU,Corvallis
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobo.ece.orst.edu

The title says it all--Please email me at bigelos@hobo.orst.edu

Any and all offers considered.

Thanks,

-STEVE
From: argent@iastate.edu (The Great Grendel-Khan)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:46:09 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <26JAN199318385761@pavo.concordia.ca> jt_rask@pavo.concordia.ca (RASKU, JASON T.) writes:
>Just woundering what alt.gothic is all about.  I haven't seen an FAQ 
>floating around so I haven't been able to consult it.  In the intrest of 
>saving bandwidth I'd sugest you mail your responces.  Thanks.
>
>							Jason Rasku
Seriously, I've been reading this group for about 6 months (I think, or at 
least it feels that way) and I've never seen an FAQ.  Don't really know
if one is even needed.
Subjects discussed:
	Art
	Clothes (style)
	Music
	Movies
I'm sure I'm missing a lot, but I never said I was god.  Feel free to add.

-- 
The Great Grendel-Khan,  |        Vote joebg@iastate.edu
Earth Rim Roamer.        |        and argent@iastate.edu
argent@iastate.edu       |  for your friendly internet Presidents!
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: STRANGE BOUTIQUE'S LATEST...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 01:25:47 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


TO EVERYONE WHO RESPONDED TO MY STRANGE BOUTIQUE POSTS (AND ANY NEWCOMERS
AS WELL...):

Strange Boutique will soon release their second full length release under the
Bedazzled label...The CD/Cass is titled "Charm" and will be available on or
around January 25.

"Charm" reflects Strange Boutique's ever changing/progrssing style which shows
no bounds...Whereas The Loved One focused on a more goth sound with very rigid
(almost tribal) drumbeats, Charm wanders and experiments, and is in many ways
a far more satisfying work.  Songs like "Ears to the Ground" retain that
unique Strange Boutique sound found on The Loved One, while the accoustic 
"Alekan Girl" is more upbeat, yet dark..Then there is "Solar Friend" which even
reveals traces of rock and roll!  And of course, "Happy Birthday Wanda June"...
my personal fave...

If you'd like more info on "Charm", email me!  Or write:

Strange Boutique
Bedazzled Records
P.O. Box 39195
Washington DC  20016


The CD is available direct from the band and can be ordered by almost any 
record store...Pressure your local record store to carry Strange Boutique!!!
Support indie goth!  "The Loved One" (CD/Cass), "In A Heaven" (7 inch), and
"Charm" (CD/Cass) can be ordered by virtually any record store through
one of three distributors:  Caroline, Twin City Imports, and Shimmy Disc...
So put some pressure on!

I'd like to personally thank everyone who expressed an interest in the band as
a result of my previous posts..."Charm" will not disappoint you!

-Rob

rawyatt@scf.usc.edu
From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Dead Black Roses
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:33:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)


Found this in alt.tasteless, of all places.  SOunds like an appropriate
valentine's day gift for the goth in your life....


In article <C1IJpM.5uu@acheron.uucp> clarke@acheron.uucp (Ed Clarke/10240000) writes:
> "Those of you who think Valentine's Day is only about sweetness and love
>  should check out Dead Black Roses & Co., a misanthropic florist offering
>  an unusual holiday service.
>  For $14.95, they'll send any ex- in your life -- ex-lover, ex-friend,
>  ex-boss -- a beautiful, hand-delivered package containing, yes, a dead
>  black rose, as well as a specially written personal message.  (Let them
>  help you find just the right words.)
>  Todd M. Cohan, the brains behind the business, says he offers people
>  'an appropriate way to express their true feelings.'
> 
>  Call (800) I-HATE-YOU"


-- 
*********************************************************
Laura Lemay                              lemay@netcom.com
writer of trifles in shadows and blood
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Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (clark wen)
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:09:17 GMT

ashaw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Eldritch) writes:

>   wot's this then about Skinny Puppy about to release something called
>"Spasmolytic"?  I remember the track off of Too Dark Part, and the CD
>single... so is this an album with the name or a re-release or what?

What? I didn't hear about this. I know they're putting out a tape of all 
their videos and stuff. Maybe they decided to call it that...?
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: The legend of the Nephilim
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:45:06 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <PROPE7.13.728140863@ifens01.insa-lyon.fr>, by PROPE7@ifens01.insa-lyon.fr (Albin Champoussin):
> I've discovered "Fields of the Nephilim" 1 year ago, and i think their music
> is exeptionnaly great...
> 
> But i'm wondering about the legend of the Nephilim.
> I've searched in encyclopedia, dictionnary and religion books, but i didn't
> find anything about it.

They're the 'giants' (standard English translation) of Genesis 6, I
think. I dare say Robert Graves Hebrew Myths: the book of Genesis talks
about them a fair bit but I'm not sure I'd believe what he says.

Andy
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: rji@turing.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram)
Subject: Anne Rice Book wanted: Interview With The Vampire
Organization: Communications Research Group
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:08:48 GMT

I am looking for a hardback copy of the above book in good condition. If
anybody has a copy they would be willing to sell would they E-Mail me and
we can talk prices.

			Rob Ingram
			rji@cs.nott.ac.uk

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Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: locklin@titan.ucs.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Subject: Nurse With Wound
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:05:23 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucs.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


In article <1jpdgoINNj87@morrow.stanford.edu> AS.GMH@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gina) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.140756.11075@maths.tcd.ie>,
>morpheus@maths.tcd.ie (John Mc Donagh) writes:
> [stuff deleted]
>Current 93 is variable.  Some of their stuff is slow, ethereal and
>spooky.  Some is more industrial, and LPs like "Swastikas for Noddy"
>is like folk music for the devil (but it's a great album!).  They
>are similar to Nurse with Wound.  David Tibet is the heart of C93.
>I really like Current 93.
>
>Most of the Death in June stuff is a lot like Nada.  (If I'm
>remembering correctly) Steven Stapleton is the heart of DiJ, and I
>think he also works with Sol Invictus (whose sound is similar to
>DiJ).  I can guarantee you, the DiJ people have NOTHING to do with

BTW, Nurse With Wound _is_ Steven Stapleton. I was unaware of the DiJ
connexion. NWW did a sort-of collaberation with C93 as they both made
"Thunder Perfect Mind" albums

>the Furs.  However, DiJ and C93 people appear on each other's
>albums.  Does anybody know if John Balance (Coil) also works with
>these people?  Personally, I can live without DiJ and Sol Invictus--

There have been many collaberations between these musicians. One which
stands out in my mind is the Coil "LSD" album cover, which is done by
Stapleton.

>the vocals get annoying after awhile.

You mean Stapleton sings? Weird....

>Both bands, C93 and DiJ, are into some wierd religious/ceremonial
>stuff which I know nothing about.  I would guess they would be
>pretty scary people.

Stapleton is a fruit for sure. Much of his work is drug and/or occult inspired.
(I rather like the stuff; his paintings are rather interesting as well)
Current 93 is the current of the Aeon of thelema as declared by Aleister 
Crowley, so this group has "occult" savvy.

Basically _all_ industrial "bands" i have encountered have some degree of
knowledge on "occult" topics & often include hints in lyrics, album covers,
song titles etc.

Example: After ministry's "Psalm 69" there is a short reading from Aliester
Crowley's "Book of Lies"  (The way to succeed, or the way to suck eggs)
which, in a roundabout "occultish" way, is telling you to go suck a dick....

ANother example: Genesis P Orridge (psychic TV and Throbbing Gristle "fame")
did a decent intro to an Aleister Crowley book.

-Scott








































Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: miner@panix.com (Ed Miner)
Subject: CDS for Sale!
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:28:31 GMT


ATTRITION		RECOLLECTION 84-89		$9
DEAD CAN DANCE		A PASSAGE IN TIME		$10
SOUNDTRACK		DRACULA				$7


or best offer!


thanks,
ed
miner@panix.com

Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: HCROSS@kentvm.kent.edu (Heather Cross)
Subject: Re: TMC slaughteres
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:09:13 GMT

 
>
>In article <025LXB7w165w@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US>, nadja@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (nadja) writes:
> Passing an anonymous club (the dark, smoky, noisy meat market music hall,
> not a neandrathal's weapon) in S.F (not science fiction, but San
> Francisco) a few months ago, I heard a grotesque rendition of "Kangaroo"
> being scraped to bits by a bad 80's punk-cover band...... It was so
> obnoxious, I had to go home and cover myself with white gazue and listen
> to the 'Aria' soundtrack.................  yikes.
>                              nadja        :)=
>
    Don't know if anyone has told you this yet nadja, dahling, but "Kangaroo",
(and "Holocaust", and "I am the Cosmos" BTW,) are covers themselves.  They were
 written by Alex Chilton, who was in a band called Big Star in the'70's.
Perchance the horrible cover you heard was a decent rendition of the way the
songs were originally recorded. Chilton, by the way, produced The Cramps first
album, and influenced a whole slew of bands in the past 15 years or so.
You might want to check out the original versions-- they were pretty ahead of
their time, and obviously, This Mortal Coil didn't have too much of a problem
with the originals.  Not trying to be catty dahling, just "enlightening" a bit
and clarifying the original source of the song.
 
                                            -Heathen
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: laszlo@netcom.com (Laszlo)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:41:05 GMT

jt_rask@pavo.concordia.ca (RASKU, JASON T.) writes:

>Just woundering what alt.gothic is all about.  I haven't seen an FAQ 
>floating around so I haven't been able to consult it.  In the intrest of 
>saving bandwidth I'd sugest you mail your responces.  Thanks.

>							Jason Rasku

Well, there ARE a few messages here that might clue one in. Think of "gothic".
Where pray tell are you calling from, mister rasku?
				laszlo
From: ccb@macbeth.umd.edu (Blake Sobiloff)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: bets of the Sex Gang Children
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:15:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <4bf35t#@rpi.edu> fracer@aix.rpi.edu (Roger Charles Frace) writes:
> there is some Sex Gang Children available through Cleopatra Records.
>Unfortunately, I don't know which ones exactly.  This is the same
>label that put our Rozz's new Christian Death and his spoken word
>album.

Funny, I just picked it up at a used CD store for $10. <grin>

Sex Gang Children: Blind	CLEO51222

Welcome to my World (Friendly Fire Re-mix)*
Boss & Beauty *
Dead Metal
Ecstasy & Vendetta
Ida-ho
Last Chants for the Slow Dance
The Quick Gas Gang
Dying Fall
Immigrant
Oh! Henry
I've Done it all Before
Strike Blind
Gas Reprise

*Bonus tracks from the forthcoming disc from Sex Gang. (If they're
any indication of what direction SG(C?) is taking, don't bother
unless you like to hear them try their hands at techno/house --
synthetic scratches with a baseline from Michael Jackson's "Black
and White", and with Andi trying to sound like Lindsey Buckingham!)

"To say someone is 'entitled' to some- | Blake Sobiloff
thing is to say someone else is obli-  | <ccb@umd5.umd.edu>
gated to produce in his place. It is   | Laboratory for Automation Psychology
the civilian version of draft-dodging  | Department of Psychology
and leaving the sacrifices to others." | University of Maryland
                -Thomas Sowell         | College Park, MD  20742-4411
From: grigis@di.epfl.ch (Christian Grigis)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: And Also the Trees
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:52:43 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <C19nzJ.4Cw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu>, ashaw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Eldritch) writes:
> 
>    Yes, this is a truly great band, for those who haven't heard.  The only
> problem I have with them is the singer needs to take breathing lessons...
> 
>   To quote the Gothic Rock Black Book II (oooo, aaaahhh): 
> 
>     "And Also the Trees is gothic as curtains and candles are gothic..."
> 
>  	Adam
> 
> And I will watch the sun die
> And in its shadows wait

	Yep, I completely agree, And Also The Trees are definitely GREAT!
I always wondered why they were so little known out of Europe ...

	I saw them recently in concert, for the "Green is the Sea" tour ... they
really did an excellent performance.

	
		Give 'em a try ... :)


Christian

"There's maps in her wrists and arms, and dust lies like snow around the bed ..."
From: melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Nick Cave and his writing
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:14:35 PST
Reply-To: melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

To me his writing appears somewhat contrived...and forced for effect. 
However it is INFINITELY better than all his latest efforts at "music."  
I absolutely DESPISE his blues/lounge act.  
 
Oh how the mighty have fallen...
 
Bad Seed, Birthday Party....those were the angst days...dissonant and 
glorious.
 
                                    Wanting the mist,
 
                                    Melantha

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us ]
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: The Vampyre Society
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:57:56 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <1993Jan27.110103.11071@cs.nott.ac.uk>, by rji@nyquist.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram):
> For anybody who wanted a contact address for the above society.
> 
> The following information was taken from Melody Maker of 9th January:
> 
> The Vampyre Society: for 1 year membership send 12 pounds to:
> 
>                 Alice Pinder
>                 P.O.Box 68,
>                 Keighley,
>                 West Yorkshire,
>                 BD22 6RU.
> 
> Membership gives you 4 issues of `The Velvet Vampyre', free small adds (!)
> and invitations to social events such as pub meetings, fancy dress balls and
> weekends in Whitby.
> --

I have a feeling that there are two Vampyre Societies which hate each
other. There's also a completely separate Dracula Society too I'll see
if I can dig their addresses out from somewhere.

======================================================================

ANDY FEAR                    GOD BLESS LANCASHIRE

Dept. of Classics,           "Men have ideals, but women only have illusions"
Univ. of Keele,	              - Nietzsche			
Staffs
ST5 5BG
cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: ashaw@ruacad.ac.runet.edu (Eldritch)
Subject: And Also the Trees
Organization: Radford University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:45:19 GMT


   Yes, this is a truly great band, for those who haven't heard.  The only
problem I have with them is the singer needs to take breathing lessons...

  To quote the Gothic Rock Black Book II (oooo, aaaahhh): 

    "And Also the Trees is gothic as curtains and candles are gothic..."

 	Adam

And I will watch the sun die
And in its shadows wait
From: AS.GMH@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gina)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: And Also the Trees
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:09:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

>        Yep, I completely agree, And Also The Trees are definitely GREAT!
>I always wondered why they were so little known out of Europe ...
>
>        I saw them recently in concert, for the "Green is the Sea" tour ... they
>really did an excellent performance.
>                Give 'em a try ... :)
>
>Christian
>
>"There's maps in her wrists and arms, and dust lies like snow around
>the bed ..."

Cool. The quote's from "Slow Pulse Boy", isn't it?  A.A.T.T. is a
great band, similar to Sad Lovers & Giants.  I think I have a
discography at home.  I'll post it as soon as I remember to bring it
in to work.

--Gina
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