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From: Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Wanted: Amax II for A500
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:34:51 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

Anyone selling a complete Amax II package?  I know someone who wants to but
the whole setup (cart, software, ROMS, andrive).  If you've got a whole
system (all the thing mentioned above, including the Mac drive), call
(404)235-1521 and ask for Debbie.  She will listen to offers for a week or
so, then buy from the person with the lowest price.  No calls after 10pm
EST please.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: 386 Bridgeboard Janus problem
From: zucker@uni2a.unige.ch
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:30:18 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

In article <63784@cup.portal.com>, Hytec@cup.portal.com (Brandon Lee Worrell) writes:
> 
> Hello, I am having a small problem with my 386 bridgeboard in a 3000.  I keep
> getting an "Cant open Janus.library" when I run the software.  Janus.library
> is in the libs: directory.  Is there anything else I could be doing wrong?
> 
> Brandon Worrell

janus.library should be placed in sys:expansion with its .info file.
then running binddrivers should fire it up.
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update.
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:44:23 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

jerry@truevision.com (Jerry Thompson) writes:

>>If I am not mistaken, it is one NSX and two Nissan 300ZX's.  So much for thei
>>battle cry of 'Trying to take markets back from the Japanese.'

>Actually... it is 15 Nissan 300ZX Turbos.  Newtek 1, Newtek 2, Newtek 3...

  NewTek 1 & 2 are, most definately, Acura NSX's.  Call Newtek, they'll tell
you...

  -jack-
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From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update.
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:14:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug2.155418.15582@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:
>Actually, those Ferrari-like cars that keep popping up in the Toaster Demos
>and on the Nightline(?) spot are Acura NSX's.  Still a very nice car that goes
>for 60k a pop.

It's essentially as good as a Ferrari, more reliable, and less than half as
expensive.  Great car.  My Dad has one.  Wish he'd let me drive it.  :-)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: System 7.0 On Amax 2.5
From: grisch@uceng.UC.EDU (George Risch)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:31:27 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
Keywords: Not Working (NOT ENOUGH MEMORY!?)

Hello Netters.....

I have a stock A2000 with a A2091 SCSI Hardrive controller (2 Megs on board),
1.3 ROM's, a 2 Meg Commodore Memory expansion card and a 2088 BridgeBoard.
The cards are installed as follows:
 
  Slot        Card
    1		2 Meg Card
    2		SCSI Hardrive Controller & 2 Megs
    6 (??)      2088 BridgeBoard (in the first IBM slot)

I have installed the System 7.0 files on my hardrive and when I boot I get
the message that I "..don't have enough memory, please hold the shift keys to
restart without system extensions....". I think that the Amax system 
sees my 5 Megs in the Amiga, because I can run about 6 applications under
MultiFinder in System 6.0.7. Any Clues to why System 7.0 thinks I need more
RAM. And, as an aside, what do I get if I use System 7.0 (Balloon help WOW).

                                           Thanks Alot,
                                                George
    Please Respond to : grisch@uceng.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: Help adding memory on 2386 Bridgecard
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:01:06 GMT

In article <14245@mindlink.bc.ca> Wayde_Police@mindlink.bc.ca (Wayde Police) writes:
>I had a similar problem adding extra memory to my 2386sx Bridgeboard. It seemed
>that that extra memory I purchased was not "page mode" type memory (whatever
>that is). When it started up it gave the same problem, 640K and 0 extended. The
>solution was to turn off page mode and add 1 wait state. The memory should then
>be recognized. (assuming the ram is good I suppose) I recommend returning the
>ram and exchanging it for ZIPs that are page mode capable. (the system will run
>with the other ram but will be slowed down by the wait states.

"Page-Mode" is a special access mode which enables the system to access the
chips at higher speeds under some circumstances.
This "page-mode" is opposed to "static-column-mode" used in the A3000 which
does the same thing but in a different way, there is also "nibble-mode" which
goes a third way...

I guess you got static-column-rams (sometimes called SCRAM) as they are
widespreaded in the amiga-community because of the A3000.
If you buy some of the RAM-types listed in the A2386's manual you are on
the safer side of life...

Ciao, Klaus.

-----------------------------------------------------------
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Brandweg 11          voice: +49-851/83993 (only pm please)
D-W-8390 Passau   /  Federal Republic of Germany
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: ASCII FILE FROM AMIGA TO IBM
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:24:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: desire.1992Aug19.062443.3597
Organization: Wright State University

In article <1992Aug19.000018.409@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos) writes:
> (Posting for a friend : please reply by e-mail to me Thanks)
> 
> I'm using memacs on my AMIGA 2000 to create and edit documents, letters, etc...
> I then save the file on an IBM formatted disk (I use MSH to mount my ibma:   
> drive) and bring it over to my office to print it. (Well I don't have a laser
> printer at home O.K.!)
> 
> I found out this week that the IBM uses CR and LF to indicate an end-of-line. 
> Is there a utility that will translate these and any other special characters
> (e.g. letters with accents) to the corresponding IBM characters? Or do I have 
> to do something when I'm editing the file on the AMIGA end?

	If you have a C compiler, it is very easy to write a program that
	will fix your file.  Someone probably posted a utility to Fred Fish
	that will do this.  If I see one, I'll post the name, other wise
	I can post the C program if you wish.
> 
> I'd appreciate any help.
> Thanks. 
Fred Heitkamp, ** Not an organization **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: temp@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Temporary Account)
Subject: Re: using Amax with drive and no roms
Keywords: I have been trying for a while ago to get info on how I can replace 
Reply-To: temp@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Temporary Account)
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:02:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug8.134056.6270@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> temp@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Temporary Account) writes:
>the mac roms in the cartridge so that I can get Amax to read the diskdrive
>The answer I go from one netter was that If I repla the roms with empty Eproms
>then I could use the drive given I had the rom image on disk !! Well yesterday
>I managed to secure the EPRoms (Cost me $40 AUS) and they didn't work. Some say
>sucked in ? :-) Well I noticed that there was a trace cut on the board and 
>when I joined the trace THE DRIVE WAS FULLY RECOGNISED !!!!! To bad for the roms
>Doesn't matter. It seems that the cartridge was set up that way from the factory
>ie. like a suttle hint. Oh for those who feal like they want to flame don't bother I wont get this message it's a temporary account, but their is the info and thanks to all that helped. I now have a fully working mac, stuff apple, to buy 
>their roms I had to submit my faulty board so they can replace it. It was the only option. I had to take an alternative path.
>	CYAZ
>		ME
>

>

WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT !
There is no way in which the Amax cartrage will work without the ROM chips
reguardless of the fact that you have the rom image on disk!!!!!!
The roms are needed to complete the circiut ...... in order for the external mac drive 
to work..
Readsoft themselves state this in the manual .
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant IBM
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:04:04 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

pat_meloy@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Pat Meloy) writes:
- > |> In a message dated Mon 10 Aug 92 18:29, Jim_drew@cryo.rain.com (jim Drew)
- > |> wrote:
- > |> 
- > |> >      Rumor has it that the rumored EMPLANT will not function with
- > |> >      the rumored chip-set that is rumored to be out soon....
- > |> >
- > |>  JD> What?  First of all, there is no new "chip-set" to replace the
- > |>  JD> existing
- > |>  JD> chip-set.  The new CBM machines function fine with EMPLANT.
- 
-  Nobody has clued into the obvious here, how would anyone know whether
- Emplant did or did not work with the AA chipset when these people OBVIOUSLY
- couldn't HAVE an Emplant to test with it?
- 
-  I take the original posting as an overt attempt to discredit Mr. Drew's
- product. Its really easy to say 'Rumour has it' because then you don't have
- to back up your claims, or accept responsibility for any damages it may cause.
- 
- "Rumour has it that the original poster is a pathological liar"
- 
- "Hey! You can't call me that! I'm going to sue for slander!"
- 
- "Can't sue me, I'm just passing on something that someone else said"
- 
- See what I mean?

Rumour has it that the original posting was a joke...

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From: gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael David Alberghini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant fantasies
Date: 15 Aug 92 09:14:15 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


     This goes out to the folks at Utilities Unlimited, the parents of
Emplant.

     A thought crossed my mind tonight... Could the Emplant possibly
emulate things such as the HST chipset?  A dual standard goes for
about $800 last time I looked.  A cheap HST would be my dream come
true.

                                                 Mike Alberghini

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.emulations:3579 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14266
From: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: What's the difference between a sx and dx Intel chip
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <10667547.54.714184049@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:
>Hi!
>
>I was wondering if anyone can explain what's the difference between a sx and 
>a dx chip/board/bus.

    From the content of the rest of your article (which is not included here),
I took it you were referring to the 80386SX and 80386DX microprocessors.
The two processors are very similar, with two key differences.  The 80386DX
provides a 32 bit address bus, giving it an addressing range of 4 gigabytes,
and a 32 bit data bus, allowing it to access longword (32-bit) sized data
elements in one bus cycle.  The 80386SX on the other hand, provides a
24 bit address bus, giving it an addressing range of 16 megabytes, and a
16 bit data bus, allowing it to only access word (16 bit) sized data elements
in one bus cycle.
    The basic differences which will be seen between 80386DX and 80386SX
based systems will be in terms of performance and allowable memory.  The
80386DX will in most circumstances be slower at a given clock rate due to 
its restraint of a 16 bit data bus.  Applications written to take advantage
of the 32-bit architecture of the 80386 will run fine on the SX processor,
but slower due to the data bus bottleneck.  Also, as mentioned above, an SX
based system will not be capable of supporting as much memory as a DX system
can in theory.
    Which you want depends on what you want to do.  The 80386SX is a more
cost optimized solution, while the 80386DX is a performance tuned one.  Which
will suit you better depends on your application needs and performance 
requirements.

>Jim Fang - Bachelor of Economics (3) / B.E (3) .-_|\        Snail Mail

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: jerry@truevision.com (Jerry Thompson)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update.
Organization: Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:55:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.191135.7536@cis.ohio-state.edu> visconti@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Visconti) writes:
>In article <1992Aug2.155418.15582@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:
>
>>Actually, those Ferrari-like cars that keep popping up in the Toaster Demos
>>and on the Nightline(?) spot are Acura NSX's.  Still a very nice car that goes
>>for 60k a pop.
>>
>
>If I am not mistaken, it is one NSX and two Nissan 300ZX's.  So much for their
>battle cry of 'Trying to take markets back from the Japanese.'

Actually... it is 15 Nissan 300ZX Turbos.  Newtek 1, Newtek 2, Newtek 3...

-Jerry
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: XT Bridgeboard: File transfer to amiga - doesnt...
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:40:45 GMT

In article <crystal.714183733@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>I have no Janus directory.
>My only directories are \MSDOS and two personal ones I created off the 
>root.
>
>There is program called jdisk.sys in the root directory.
>
>My autoexec contains 2 lines:
>one for my prompt
>one for my path
>
>
>Thank you...
>Crystal
>  :>

You need the PC programs aread.exe and awrite.exe.  If the
Bridgeboard software is version 2.0, then you should take a look
in the \JANUS directory on the original floppy disk (5.25) that
came with the software and copy them somewhere where you can
conveniently execute from.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: atul@Cadence.COM (Atul Srinivasan)
Subject: AMax 2.51 with external cartridge / mac drive
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:25:33 GMT

Hello,
	Any AmaxII users out there who have the above configuration ?

I'm having a problem. If I insert any writeable disk into the external
drive, AmaxII locks up. Sometimes the system just freezes with the drive
light lit. Sometimes the screen shows garbage. In every case the only action
left is reboot.

If the disk is write protected, then there is no problem. I can open it,
read from it. However it is still write protected.

If I switch back to the old version of software I have, then everything
works fine.

Anyone else seen this problem ? Had this problem ? Is this a known bug ?

Any help much appreciated.

Atul
atul@cadence.COM
From: Jeff.Fitzsimons@f601.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Jeff Fitzsimons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Bridgeboards, which is w
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:09:00 GMT

To: s1070422@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (D Binding is BATMAN) 
 On 08-13-92 D Binding is BATMAN wrote to All... 
 
 DB> very good. So my main concern is wha is so good about 386SX over a
 DB> 386? 
 
The 386sx is a 386dx (32 bit chip) that communicates with the system
through 16 bit datapaths.  This, of course, results in slower transfers
of data to/from the processor, but the actual processor operates just as
a 386dx.  You might try 386/Now!, it replaces the 286 chip and gives you
a 386sx/20 or 25 MHz processor. 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.36
From: ldtaylor@tbag.tscs.com (Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: ATOnce (ancient model) and WB 2.04
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:47:01 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

Okay, here's the sitch:
   I AM currently trying to run my A500 in 'Wienie' mode - i.e., no accelerators, some memory, and WB2.04.  I am ALSO trying to get my ATonce to work with it... but the old ATOnce doesn't WORK with 2.04... so, I bought a ROM switcher...

It all worked fine until I got my Agnus upgraded to a Fat (8372a) model... now, it boots normal-like, but locks up RIGHT AFTER accessing drive A: for the boot disk.

Any suggestions as to why this is doing such, or even better, HOW to fix it?  The A530 is looking more and more distant, and I am not buying a Series II if the A530 is out... so, should I forget about it and just use my school's IBMs?

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
From: bobby@selenium.cchem.berkeley.edu (The Bobster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Janus 2.1 on ftp?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:59:15 GMT
Reply-To: bobby@selenium.cchem.berkeley.edu.UUCP (The Bobster)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Is there an FTP site that has the "amouse.drv" file from
Janus 2.1? 


	  - Bobby
From: morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: ASCII FILE FROM AMIGA TO IBM
Summary: CR & LF not the same
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:00:18 GMT
Reply-To: morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos)
Organization: Universite de Montreal

(Posting for a friend : please reply by e-mail to me Thanks)

I'm using memacs on my AMIGA 2000 to create and edit documents, letters, etc...
I then save the file on an IBM formatted disk (I use MSH to mount my ibma:   
drive) and bring it over to my office to print it. (Well I don't have a laser
printer at home O.K.!)

I found out this week that the IBM uses CR and LF to indicate an end-of-line. 
Is there a utility that will translate these and any other special characters
(e.g. letters with accents) to the corresponding IBM characters? Or do I have 
to do something when I'm editing the file on the AMIGA end?

I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks.
From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Where to get sytem disks
Date: 17 Aug 92 03:55:04 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

     I'm kina confused here. Are we talking about the Mac's Operating System
disks? Aren't they copyright Apple Corp? (i.e. you gotta BUY them!)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: A2286 Bridgeboard
From: David.King@afitamy.fidonet.org (David King)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 22:36:39 EST
Organization: AFIT Amiga Users BBS(AFITAUG), Dayton, Oh. (513) 879-9798

I H have a 2286 BridgeBoard on my 2500, and I ram running WB 2.01.  I have noticed that you cannoutot use the CPU (or old SETCPU) utilities awith the 2286 installed.  Hope this helps.

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From: rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant speed...
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:14:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <16c7jlINNfu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:

>I would imagine that any Emplant IBM emulation will be, to pardon my language,
>butt-slow.  Sure there is some "special hardware" on the Emplant card, but it's

Not necessarily, you can do a lot of magic with simple hardware.

>definately not a Bridgeboard!  Emplant will still have to convert the 8088
>instructions to 68000 instructions (or do traps like the software emulators

The problem with software emulators is that the CPU is required to
look up each of the 80x86 instruction in a table to find the
corresponding 680x0 one.  A chip could do this on the fly, so CPU
just sees the 680x0 instruction, with 0 cycles used for instruction
translation.  So it would appear (at least in theory) that 386
speeds can be achieved with an 030.  I hope this is the case, and I
hope that we can slap the translator chip on to the regular mac
emplant emulator when it becomes available.  Jim, are you planning
easy upgrade paths, please? :)

Rick

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: tlee@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Timothy Lee)
Subject: Re: Where to get sytem disks
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:24:47 GMT

>>>(Lloyd Sumpter) writes:
>>>>I'm kina confused here. Are we talking about the Mac's Operating System
>>>>disks? Aren't they copyright Apple Corp? (i.e. you gotta BUY them!)
>>>>
>>>
>>>Actually, the MAC OS is given away (yes FREE) by the MAC dealers in
>>>Oregon, California, and Washington.  I do not know if this is common
>>>practice in the rest of the U.S.  I do know that according to Apple's
>>>System 7 documentation, you are allowed to actually loan out your system
>>>disks to anyone.
>>
>>The agreement states that you must own a real Apple Macintosh computer
>>in order to use the system software.
>>
>	Does that make every Amax user (And other emulators) PIRATES ????
>I guess so, yet the same people can flame very well. If you look in the book
>came with Amax it mentions that it's upto us to licence the software
>from apple !!! Sort of like here's the gun there's the target this is how
>you do it.  CYAZ
>		George

  But doesn't having MAC ROMS (128K) mean that you OWN A MAC?? It had to have
  come from a MAC.. At least according to the NEW POLICY OF APPLE..

			Since , I purchased a MAC ROM ==> I have a mac plus.

		--tim
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