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From: fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Catalina Hotel Recommendations Needed
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:59:08 GMT

tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) writes:

>I'll be visiting Catalina for a 3 day weekend at the end of this month.
>I've been there a few times - but we always stayed on a boat in Cat Harbor
>or camped out.  This time, however, we want to stay in a reasonably priced
>hotel, preferably conveniently located in Avalon.
>
>I'd like to keep costs down to $80/night or so. 
>
>Can anyone offer any first-hand recommendations?

The last couple of times I've stayed in Avalon, it's
been at the Hotel Catalina.  I *think* this is about
in your price range.  Be sure to ask for a room with
a view.

Otherwise, the Avalon Chamber of Commerce is always
glad to direct you to hotels around town in a given
price range.

>Recommedations for restraunts and particular activites are welcome too.

There used to be a nice place to eat up on one of the
hills, but it closed down.  You can probably find
something ok in a number of restaurants down on the
main drag, but nothing that I'd call memorable.

As for activities, no visit to Avalon is complete
without walking up to the botanical gardens and
Wrigley Memorial in the canyon mouth uphill from
town.  Otherwise, hiking is my personal preference
(you need a permit to hike outside town), but you
can also rent bikes and little golfcart-like
vehicles, or take bus tours of the interior of the
island.

Frank
frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.sport.darts
From: lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: Re: Questions about travel to Europe
Summary: suggestions
Keywords: travel, europe, ireland, england, netherlands
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:36:40 GMT

In article <1ictt4INNbip@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>      Okay - my fiance and I are currently planning on going to Europe
> in May for two weeks (YEAH -- I KNOW it's not enough time, but he's
> got a new job and really doesn't have too much vacation time built up
> yet.)  
> 
> ANYWAY, I have a few questions
> 
> The places we're thinking of going are
> 
> Ireland (South Coast)
> England (London and the Yorkshire Dales)
> The Netherlands 

[unrelated stuff deleted]

>   -- Mary Allison
> 
>     Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois

Can't help you much with Ireland, having never travelled there myself, but
I have some good suggestions for the other two mentioned destinations. 

For London, check out British Airways - they often run excellent air/land
deals: airfare, hotel and transfers, sometimes also theatre ['scuse the
spelling, but these ARE in London...] tickets. I have been on these twice,
and thoroughly enjoyed myself. Costs then (~4-6 years ago) were about $500
each (no show tickets). Once there, it was trivial to get around on the
underground and bus system. The shows are AT LEAST as good as NY's Broadway.
As for your darts, you would have to really work to find a pub that DOESN'T
already have plenty for even the most fanatic... and be wary of wagering with
the locals over darts, or anything else, for that matter :-)

My first recommendation, though, is to check with KLM for their air/land
packages, esp. to just Amsterdam. Cost about $650 each (6 years ago) for
airfare plus a week in a **** hotel. Again, public transit is entirely
adequate to get around. They also have slightly higher cost packages for
Amsterdam + one other city (e.g. Vienna). This was one of the most memorable
and enjoyable trips I ever took. Once there, day trips to places like Marken
and Vollendam are available at quite reasonable rates. Be SURE to check out
the best Indonesian food anywhere... (ah, riijtafel...) Also the Riijksmuseums.
If you speak only English, don't worry about language - you'll have no problem
here - distinctly different attitude from France.... :-).

Suggestion: don't spend less than a week in a single city - takes at least
that long to get the basic flavor of a place, and even hit the high points.

Larry "8 time veteran, E+W Europe" Hughes
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Question: Sailing in Greece
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:20:07 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <C0GtLs.Ipv@dscomsa.desy.de>, schlenst@zow09.enet.dec.com (Stefan Schlenstedt (DESY)) writes:
> --
> 
> I am planning a sailing tour this summer in Greece. Any recommendations on
> 
> - renting a yacht
> - harbours
> - islands, beaches

DEFINATELY go to Santorini and Crete.  All of the islands are fantastic, but
these two are absolute MUSTS!!!  Crete's pretty big, so decide what you want to
see (the ruins of Knossos on the north coast?  the beautiful cliffs and beaches
on the south coast?  etc) or you'll spend too much time on just one island.

> - ???
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Stefan Schlenstedt  (schlenstedt@desy.de)


How are you getting there?  Can I stowaway??  (I'm serious!)

--Dennis
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Date: 10 Jan 1993 02:40:23 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: salmon.zoo2.cs.yale.edu

In article <1993Jan9.050231.22689@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> hclam@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (LAM Ho Cheong) writes:
>   I'm interested in knowing how to say 'thank you' 
>   using various languages in the world.  Could anyone
>   follow up this article with a 'thank you' in his
>   own language, the name of the language and the 
>   countries where the language is used?
>
>   Let me be the first,
>
>   Ng Kuoi, Chinese(Cantonese), Hong Kong
>
>HC

In Cantonese, it can also be "dor tsei", depending on which meaning of
"thank you" you are referring to.

Dicky.
From: jellinek@rutabaga.adoc.xerox.com (Herb Jellinek)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: A travel agency that rebates commissions
Date: 7 Jan 93 06:55:07 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Xerox PARC, Palo Alto, CA

A plug:

I've had good experiences with the Travel Avenue travel agency in
Chicago.  You order tickets from them over the phone, and when they
send them to you they include a rebate check for much of their
commission.  Rebate percentages vary by destination; in my experience,
they've ranged from $8 to $30.  You won't save hundreds, as you might
when using a consolidator, but you will definitely beat the airlines'
rack rates.

Travel Avenue's number is 800-333-3335; sorry, those of you outside
the US, but I don't have the equivalent non-WATS number (nor am I sure
they do business outside the USA).  The address is 180 N. Desplaines,
Chicago, IL 60661-1012.  They are members of ASTA, the American
Society of Travel Agents.

Disclaimer: I have no business connection with Travel Avenue, other
than as a satisifed customer.  Your mileage, as it were, may vary.

		Herb
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: becker@hkkk.fi (Kai Becker)
Subject: Info on Reykjavik?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:53:38 GMT
Organization: Helsinki School of Economics, Finland

I'm fortunate to have to possibility to visit Iceland and its' capital
Reykjavik on 20th-25th January and I was wondering whether you
fellow-netters could pass me some tips what I definitely shouldn't
miss during my visit?
Places to visit, things to do anything etc.

Any comments very welcome, thanks!
  
-- 
  /  Kai Becker - Helsinki School of Economics and Business Adminst. \
 |	   becker@hkkk.fi	          -Yes, there IS              |
 |	        k21483@kyyppari.hkkk.fi       	  a free lunch...     |
  \__________________________________________________________________/
From: frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel in Saudi Arabia / Red Sea
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:47:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: odie.frank2.34
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).

I'll soon be departing for an overland trip through Africa, going south to 
north. One idea for the northen bit is to get to the Red Sea through 
Ethiopia and either take a boat up to Egypt or Israel, or to travel on 
land along the Saudi coast. Anyone done this or have *any* info' about it?

Also, how safe is Zaire at the moment?


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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Subject: Re: Can one use calling card at Frankfurt Airport?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:20:25 GMT

In article <1660@chorus.chorus.fr> grob@chorus.fr (Lori S. Grob) writes:

[ ... much good stuff deleted for brevity ... ]

>To use USA direct from France dial 19 (2nd dial tone) 00 11 and
>either the number you are calling in the US followed by a beep followed
>by your ATT credit card or just hold after the  19 00 11 and you will get
>an ATT operator who can reverse the charges or otherwise help you out.

Does this procedure actually work from those pulse dialed phones that
are so common in France? In my experience I dial 19 00 11 followed by
the US phone number. The pulse dialed phone painstakingly pulses out
all those digits and then an AT&T operator comes on line and asks what
number you want to get connected to. Of course, my workaround for this
has been to buy a $12 Touch Tone generator from Radio Shack, and use
that to tone dial everything after the initial 190011. That works
wonderfully. The call is a bit cheaper that way too since the need for
operator assist is eliminated.

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
From: iaprojb@prism.gatech.EDU (BANKS JOHN)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: TEST
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:13:48 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Test
-- 
Banks, John
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!iaprojb
ARPA: iaprojb@prism.gatech.edu
From: reil0766@mach1.wlu.ca (reilly derek)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New Orleans-Spring Break-from Ontario or so
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:09:30 GMT
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University

is anyone going through or near southern ontario en route to New Orleans
or wherabouts for spring break- and could use two extra passengers
split costs,etc...???


any leads on chartered buses would be fantastic as well


thanks
Derek Reilly reil0766@mach1.wlu.ca
From: fishkin@aludra.usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Advice Sought: Trip up CA Coast
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:54:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I am planning a one week trip up the CA coast, from Los Angeles to Napa(ish),
and was looking for suggestions of places to stay and what to see.  You can
reply here, although directly to me would be preferred.  

thanks,

Stephanie
fishkin@aludra.usc.edu
From: jcm+@CS.CMU.EDU (Chris McGlone)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Orlando without Mickey
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:34:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0Dxty.EJw.1
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

The family unit and I will be heading to Orlando in April for a conference.
While there was no way I would be allowed to miss Disney, I'm hoping desperately
that there's something to do in that town (with a 2-year old) that doesn't 
involve standing in 
line with drooling middle-American consumers at a theme park along the 
interstate.  Is there life in Orlando outside of Disney? The NY Times had a 
short article which mentioned an art museum--how is it? What's the best
beach within a reasonable drive?  

Thanks.  I hope I'm not insulting Orlandians too much.  

Chris McGlone
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Togo
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:32:50 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Togo
============================================================
Togo - Consular Information Sheet
 December 24, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located at the intersection 
of Rue Pelletier Caventou and Rue Vauban, in the capital city of 
Lome.  The mailing address is B.P. 852, The telephone numbers are 
(228) 21-77-17 and 21-29-92/93/94.

Country Description:  Togo is a small West African nation.  Its 
economy is not fully developed. Tourism facilities are limited, 
especially outside the capital city.

Areas of Instability:  A general strike affecting all major cities, 
especially in the south, has been in effect since mid-November and 
has resulted in closure of the port and a volatile political 
atmosphere.  Political rallies and demonstrations associated with 
the demand for elections may erupt in violence.  Tensions are 
expected to remain high throughout the country as the December 31 
deadline for the transition to democracy approaches. 

Entry Requirements:  A passport is required.  No visa is required 
for a stay of less than three months.  Yellow fever and cholera 
vaccinations are required.  Further information regarding entry 
requirements can be obtained at the Embassy of the Republic of Togo, 
2208 Massachusetts Avenue N.W., Washington, D.C. 20008.  The 
Telephone is (202) 234-4212.

Medical Facilities:  Medical Facilities in Togo are limited.  Some 
medicines are available.  Doctors and hospitals often expect 
immediate cash payment for health services.  U.S. medical insurance 
is not always valid outside the United States.  Supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Information on health matters can be obtained from the Centers for 
Disease Control's international travelers hotline, telephone (404) 
332-4559.

Information on Crime:  Petty crime, including pickpocketing has 
increased.  Useful information on safeguarding valuables and 
protecting personal security while traveling abroad is provided in 
the Department of State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad," available 
from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing 
Office, Washington, D.C.  20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strictly enforced.  Convicted offenders can expect 
jail sentences and fines.

Tips For Travelers:  Information on travel in the region is 
available in the Department of State publication "Tips for Travelers 
to Sub-Saharan Africa," which is available from the Superintendent 
of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 
20402.  It includes general information on travel in the area.

Registration:  U.S. citizens who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security in Togo.

 No. 92-170


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From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Bahrain
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:11:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Bahrain
============================================================
Bahrain - Consular Information Sheet
 January 8, 1993

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located in Manama, at Bldg. 
979, Road No. 3119, Zinj District (next to Al Ahli Sports Club), 
P.O. Box 26431.  The telephone number is (973) 273-300.  The 
workweek in Bahrain is Saturday through Wednesday.

Country Description:  Bahrain is an emirate, governed by the 
Al-Khalifa family in consultation with a council of ministers.  
Islamic ideals and beliefs provide the conservative foundation of 
the country's customs, laws and practices.  Bahrain is a modern, 
developed country, and tourist facilities are widely available.

Entry Requirements:  Passports and visas are required.  For further 
information on entry requirements, travelers can contact the Embassy 
of the State of Bahrain, 3502 International Drive, N.W., Washington, 
D.C. 20008, telephone (202) 342-0741/2; or the Bahrain Permanent 
Mission to the U.N., 2 United Nations Plaza, East 44th St., New 
York, N.Y. 10017, telephone (212) 223-6200.

Medical Facilities:  Basic modern medical care and medicines are 
available in several hospitals and health centers in Bahrain. 
Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health 
services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the 
United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with specific 
overseas coverage has proved useful.  The international travelers' 
hotline at the Centers for Disease Control, telephone (404) 
332-4559, has additional health information.

Information on Crime:  Crime is generally not a problem for 
travelers in Bahrain.  However, useful information on safeguarding 
valuables and protecting personal security while traveling abroad is 
provided in the Department of State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad."  
It is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Tips For Travelers:  The Department of State publication "Tips for 
Travelers to the Middle East and North Africa" provides general 
information on the area.  It is available from the Superintendent of 
Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington D.C. 20402.

Registration:  U.S. citizens who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security in Bahrain.

 No. 93-011

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: grass@ulysses.att.com (Judith Grass)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:05:17 GMT
Reply-To: grass@ulysses.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill

>> Das Ve Dania - Russian

Nope... that's "Goodbye" (Do Svidanija)

Spasibo  - Russian
Hvala    - Croatian
Fala     - Serbian
De^kuji'   - Czech      (Spelling? I am missing haceks and accent.. j is a "y")
Djekuju  - Ukrainian  (Spelling? "j" is a "y" sound)
	Polish and Slovak are similar (not the same though) as the Ukrainian
Merci    - French
Danke    - German
From: rmandel@bu.edu (Richard Mandel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: spanish courses in s.a.
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:01:05 GMT
Distribution: rec
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I would certainly consider Antigua Guatemala.  The place is the former
colonial capital which was destroyed many times over by earthquakes
in the 16 and 17th century.  The architecture is splendid, the city
small and friendly and the surrounding countryside beautiful.  There
are a number of Spanish language schools there but I can't give you 
specific recommendations.  


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From: pgybass@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (michael patrick swain)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: route recommendations:  Arkansas to Arizona
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,
	I will be travelling from Little Rock to Phoenix early next week.
Could someone please give me an idea as to which route is best?  I'm wondering
if the route through Okla City --> TX --> Flagstaff is much better than
Dallas -->  El Paso --> Southern NM.  Any comments on terrain, road conditions,
etc. would be greatly appreciated via e-mail.  I'm not necessarily looking for
the SHORTEST route, but the one that's reasonably quick, safe, and scenic.
Thanks!

michael swain
pgybass@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: randy@halcyon.com (C. Brandon Gresham)
Subject: Re: Travel in Saudi Arabia / Red Sea
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:32:48 GMT

frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za writes:

>I'll soon be departing for an overland trip through Africa, going south to 
>north. One idea for the northen bit is to get to the Red Sea through 
>Ethiopia and either take a boat up to Egypt or Israel, or to travel on 
>land along the Saudi coast. Anyone done this or have *any* info' about it?

I have just returned from a twelve year stint in Saudi Arabia.

While not an ABSOLUTE impossibility, it will be very difficult to get a
visa to "travel on land along the Saudi coast."

There is no such thing as a "Visitor's Visa." At a minimum you would
need a Saudi sponsor for a visa. [ As many of my friends had to
'disguise'; their trips to South Africa (much in the manner of the
current discussion here on travel to both Israel and Arab lands) you may
find other difficulties.]

While you would have an interesting experience, your energies might be
best applied on setting up a different route.

Have a great trip which ever route you take!

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (Dude)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.sport.darts
Subject: Questions about travel to Europe
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:13:40 GMT
Organisation: black mail inc.

In article <1ictt4INNbip@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, Mary E. Allison writes:

MA>      Two personal items I'd like to take with me are my Swiss Army
MA> Knife (hey, I know MacGyver never had problems carrying his with him,
MA> but he worked for a government agency) and -- this might be more of a
MA> problem -- my darts (you don't expect me to go all the way over there
MA> and not take my DARTS with me).  Would this possibly be a problem?
MA> Anyone ever travel overseas with darts?

No problem, just put them in your suitcase & it won't be a problem. I've
travelled with swords/knifes/daggers etc etc, and had no problems at all.
(Well just a few curious looks at the customs). 

MA>      Okay - next question - the travel agent is trying to talk us into 
MA> going on a prepackaged tour.  On the one hand it might be easier, on
MA> the other hand she may be pushing that because she gets more
MA> commission (what me cynical?)

I wouldn't take a prepack if I were you, gives you much more freedom and
going on your own is most of the time cheaper.

MA>      OH -- next question - is there anyone reading this that's in The 
MA> Netherlands that might be willing to make a phone call for me to a
MA> museum near Otterlo??

Sure, just email me the number & what you want to know.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: Neil_MacAskill@mindlink.bc.ca (Neil MacAskill)
Subject: Re: las vegas
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:27:51 GMT

I would also be interested in the 800 number for Las Vegas 'deals'. Please
e-mail if you haven't posted. Thanks.


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rbartos@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Radim Bartos)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:27:18 GMT

deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com (Andy Deitsch) writes:


>Toh Dah (Thanks), Toh Dah Ra Ba (Thank you very much) - Hebrew - Israel
>Asante Sana - Swahili - Kenya
>Efarasto - Greek - Greece
>Shukra - Arabic
>Domo Arigato - Japanese
>Grazi (sp?) - Italian - Italy
>Gracias - Spanish
>Das Ve Dania - Russian
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ this means Good Bye!
>Spasibo - Russian
>Dekuji [pron. djekuji] - Czech
>Dakujem - [djakujem] - Slovak
>Dzienkujem - Polish (?)
>Kosonom - Hungarian 
>Dank u - Dutch
>Hvala - Croatian    
>shukria - Indian
>Arigato gozai masta - Japanese

Radim (with help of Devang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel