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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:40:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
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In a previous article, mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (!bonk!) says:

>	No damn kidding to previously expressed sentiments about the
>	I got the Lynx because it's the best machine on the market, with
>the best games.  If I ever own all of the 59 games available for it at
>this point, I won't master 1/2 of them.  Good.  It's a damn toy.  I want
>to _play_ with it.  The longer I have the same cartridge unmastered, the
>better.  It means that I am getting my money's worth, which is a rare
>thing in consumer electronics.
>

YES, I agree.  Even though ATARI CORPORATION seems to have trouble
marketing the Lynx, the Lynx is indeed a VERY good portable system.

In fact, ANYONE that would drop the Lynx due to lack of dealerships
in their area is just plain foolish.

Open up an ATARI magazine and you'll see many mail-order places that
sell Lynx games at even less than your average dealership.

>
>	To the inevitable squawkers who hate to be disagreed with, yes,
>I am killing this thread.  It's no fun to read it.
>

Oh, well, you won't read this messag then!

>
>p.s.  Thanks for good reviews, Robert.  I've consulted them via
>Cleveland Freenet each time I've gone out to buy.  Better than the ones
>I've read for Game Boy or Gamegear, both of which seem to have less
>vocal and sometimes far less literate owners.

I also consult Robert's REVIEWS often.  I don't think you will see
other system owners SO ACTIVE.

I mean, this activity makes up for most of Atari's problems.

There is still PLENTY of Lynx support.

Len
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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: TOYS'R'US says, GO AHEAD AND WRITE!
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:53:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Well, I called the headquarters of Toys'R'Us and the woman on
the phone informed me if WE are not happy with what Toys'R'Us is
doing in regards to the Lynx, we should write the Vice Chairman.

She gave me the name.

I received the impression that this is their best guess to how
much of a demand there is for a product.

Often, if you notice, Toys'R'Us goes weeks without getting more Lynx
systems in.  They have no idea how many customers they lose by
not having those systems.

I am compiling a number of FORM letters.  If you would like to help
me, please create TWO form letters.

One to Sam Tramiel and the other would be to Michael Goldstein.

Then send me the letters in e-mail.  I will then get them in
the latest online magazines for distribution.


Thanks.

Len

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From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:56:33 PST

In article <1hgq01INNs8r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Krynak) writes:
= 
= In a previous article, mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper) says:
= 
= >	A significant number of the Telegames team now
= >work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
= >of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
= >when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
= >be released, but _Eye of_ will.
= >
= can't you guys finish Guardians: Storm Over Doria AND make Eye of the
= Beholder?  I was looking forward to playing both games.
= wasn't Guardians almost finished?

	We aren't the ones producing Eye of the Beholder.  Knight Techno-
logies, who made Lynx games for Telegames, dropped the _Guardians_ project
for several reasons, one of which, according to my artist, was their
previewing of _Eye of_.  I didn't bother to ask what the significance of
the preview was; I assumed it involved discouragement in the face of com-
petitor excellence.  I do not know how complete _Guardians_ was.

						 _m d c_
			  Milo D. Cooper  '92   | 1992  |  mdc@crash.cts.com
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: No new Lynx games for Xmas - optimistic view
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:24:57 GMT

In article <1h0eekINN2em@aludra.usc.edu> rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>  According to two separate wholesale/retail sources I have (one of each),
>JOUST, DRACULA THE UNDEAD, and HYPERDROME are schedule to be released for the
>Lynx literally any day now. JOUST was supposedly released from the warehouse
>on Wednesday, and DRACULA and HYPERDROME were expected to arrive in stores
>today (Saturday), according to the shipping invoice at Electronics Boutique.

I have actually seen _Dirty Larry_ and _Dracula_ in a local EB. I didn't get
either one yet, because I wanted to show I had a slight bit of self-control
and wait for a few reviews. On the other hand, I don't want to overdo this
self-control stuff the first time out, so I am going to pick up Dracula
tomorrow.

Michael

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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 28 Dec 1992 06:16:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
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In a previous article, rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) says:

>In article <27DEC199214041812@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>>
>>
>
>I'm sorry, but this is just silly. Ohmigod, there's no Lynx advert in
>the Toys R Us section. Time to drop ballast! Jump ship! Haul in the
>sails! Maybe, just maybe, they just decided not to run a promotion on
>the Lynx. 

That isn't how its done though...

ATARI pays Toys'R'Us to include the Lynx in their advertisement.

And the reason Toys'R'Us is lacking in Lynx systems and game cards
is because they are reportedly dropping the Lynx due to Atari not
having their act together.

>
>>I should have gotten a Game Gear!  Sorry Robert but I've lost faith in
>                        ^^^^^^^^^
>If you had, you'd be sitting at home right now with a significantly
>poorer game pool, IMHO. I owned one, and got rid of it. It didn't serve
>my portable gaming needs as well as the Lynx does.


That's true, the Lynx is still the _BEST_ handheld on the market.

I will NEVER say anything againt this fine machine.  The problem is
with Atari...

>enjoyment of the games that currently exist? Will that invalidate
>
>There were droves of people of your mind years ago when I bought my
>first Lynx. I still have it after all this time, it still goes with me
>on my frequent flights, it's still lots of fun. It's too bad Atari is
>owned by a family of grade A morons, but I'm not going to let that get
>in my way of having fun.
>
>>Just my view o' things...
>>- Darin
>>
>-- 
>Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
>     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
>   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
>     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
>

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From: mdc@crash.cts.com (Milo D. Cooper)
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:49:52 PST

In article <1166@blue.cis.pitt.edu> cjfst4+@pitt.edu writes:
o Milo D. Cooper (mdc@crash.cts.com) wrote:
o 
o : 	A significant number of the Telegames team now
o : work for us here at Park Place Productions.  _Guardians_, according to one
o : of Telegames' artists (who currently works under myself), was cancelled
o : when the team got a look at _Eye of the Beholder_.  So _Guardians_ won't
o : be released, but _Eye of_ will.
o 
o 	What does this mean, exactly...that Telegames was bought out?  If so,
o will PPP be doing Lynx titles, or otherwise, what platforms are you working on?
o --
o Chad Freeman 					mail: cjfst4+@pitt.edu
o 			The end.

	These people made up Knight Technologies, who made games for
Telegames.  I should have been clearer.

						 _m d c_
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From: bagchi@eecs.umich.edu (Ranjan Drzzzzt!  Bagchi)
Subject: Eye of the Beholder?
Organization: Recreational Creationists, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:21:50 GMT

	Any news on this one?

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From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:47:53 GMT

In article <28DEC199203154402@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>
>I sincerly hope that Atari can get it together, but until then I've
>got a system and no games, tell me should I be happy?

I find it hard to believe that New York is totally devoid of Lynx
outlets, but be that as it may, there is the option of mail order.
Thumbing through my latest big ad magazine, uh, that's EGM, I find:
Video Game from Japan 1-416-593-9642
Game Dude 1-818-764-2442
GameXpress 1-818-760-4263
(two full page adds from Atari for the Lynx on pg 256, BTW)
GameTronix 1-713-965-0234

All profess to sell Lynx games. Surprisingly, there's a couple of major
advertising missing this issue (I wonder if EGM raised their rates
again?), but you can find them in VG&CE. Prices will be better, too.
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     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   216 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
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From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: Re: Lynx Questions
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:56:06 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <C051yB.1oyt@austin.ibm.com> bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com () writes:
 
>How the hell do I use the controls to do anything useful on the HALFPIPE??!?!

It takes some getting used to. Not only that, even once you're used
to it, it's pretty easy and monotonous. I'd stick with the other three :)

>Is Ms Pac Man an OK game for the ole Lynx?

It's a perfect translation of the arcade... that's basically it. If
you liked the arcade version, you'll like the Lynx version. Also,
20 or so more boards were added, but you don't have to use 'em if
you don't want.

>What about A.P.B.?

Excellent game, I strongly recommend it.
 
>Any other games that you would recommend (I know, Warbirds... Plan to get it!)

S.T.U.N. Runner. Shadow of the Beast. Battlewheels (when it comes
out).

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From: hillyard@CS.ColoState.EDU (kevin paul hillyard)
Subject: Dracula the Undead woes...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:40:41 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

	Well, we waited forever for a role-playing game to whitle away the hours
on our Lynxs, and they finaly gave us this... Dracula..  I don't think I'm the
only one who will say this, but I was highly disapointed...

	While the graphics were good (above average, but not great... some of
the objects in the game were hard to notice at first against the brown-shaded
backgrounds), and the three (that's all I counted; the wolf, the doors, and the
scream) short digitized sounds were nice, that's where the games high points
ended..

	I was at first upset to find that there was no save game feature;
battery, or password... but then, I discovered why... (look out, personal 
opinions abound) THE GAME IS TOO DAMN SHORT!!!!!!!!!!		

	The game includes 14 locations, all but two of which are each one 
screen in size... every object that you can pick up has a purpose (no red
herrings), and the puzzles were so obvious that a 10-year old could have
figured them out... now, I'm not one for adventure games that cause you to pull
out your hair in frustration, but I didn't even have to think for a couple of
seconds on this one... And the one puzzle that could have been a little more
difficult to solve (compared to the rest of the game, anyway) was given away
by a stupid book title...

	I'm ratling on about this, but I wanted to warn anyone else out there
for a moment that was thinking about picking up this cart... I was looking
forward to it since it's first metion (being both a Lynx and a horror buff),
but I felt pretty empty after spending a little more than 2 hours on a game
that cost $35... I wish I made $17 an hour.... sheeshh...

	Well all, I'll be heading out now, but my question is this...

	If this is all they can cram on a $35 game, what the hell (pardon my
French, but I'm pissed) is Eye of the Beholder going to be like?  The first
couple of levels might fit on an' old Lynx cart, even with the graphics
toned down for the smaller screen... but if I remember right, the computer
version on my IBM takes about 2 or 3 megs... 

	Woe to us, the Lynx role-playing mongers!


	P.S.  I know I can't spell, and I'm sorry I can't spell...
	      and that's the end of THAT subject...  thanks...

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From: schenker@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Adam Schenker (GE))
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx I -> II upgrade...worth it?
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:32:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of South Florida, College of Engineering


Is it worth $50 (plus shipping) to upgrade my Classic Lynx to a newer
Lynx II? I have a PAG201, BTW. What's the address/phone for this again
(I think I lost it).
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From: John.Klassa@launchpad.unc.edu (John Klassa)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:13:52 GMT
Reply-To: klassa%aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <C016DG.2KJ6@austin.ibm.com> bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com writes:
>
>Well, Christmas morning came and the one thing I have been hounding my wife
>about getting for the past 9 months showed up... A Lynx!  I like mine a lot!
>For the past 9 months my wife has been telling me that it was stupid for
>me to want a Lynx when I have the SNES, TG16/CD, and (my daughters) NES, but
>I kept telling her, 'It has fun games.'  ...

Brad--

Couldn't reach you via email...  Do you have another address?

John
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From: goble@hardy.u.washington.edu (Brian Goble)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Lynx - I got mine!!!!!
Date: 29 Dec 1992 19:38:01 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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Mail to original sender bounced so I had to post...

In alt.games.lynx you write:

>thumbs up for fun.  I am having a hardware/software problem though that I need
>help with.  It seems that since I got my Lynx... When I go to find it, it is
>usually turned on.. Now, the only thing I can think of is that it is being
>turned on because my wife insists on playing it and it would be pretty stupid
>to have a Lynx in your hands, staring at the screen and not have it on...

Congrats on getting a Lynx!  One thing that may be the problem is that you
(or your wife) is not turning it off properly (seriously, read on :)

The Lynx has two buttons that perform an "off" function.  The bottom left
button turns the backlight off (to save on batteries when paused) but it
doesn't turn the whole unit off, just the backlight (so it appears as if
the Lynx is off but you can tell it's not because the power light is still
on and any game sounds are still heard).

Make sure you press the "Power Off" button (middle left I think) to turn the
Lynx off.

Have fun!

-Brian



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From: maddie@crash.cts.com (Tom Schenck)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Re: Guardians: Storm Over Doria
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:34:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

The Guardians: Storm Over Doria suffered from a lack of attention. The original
design had a good basic structure, but after it was started, the team got
swamped with projects, and it fell by the wayside.

Tom Schenck
(Formerly of Knight Technologies, and proud NOT to be at Park Place Productions)
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From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 16:13:07 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

In article <27DEC199214041812@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>
> ["the Lynx is dying!"]
>

I agree, which is why I think I'm going to sell mine. I was
in TRU yesterday, and was startled to see the Lynx gone from
its display case. They still had some games, but not many.
It seems likely that they're just going to sell off their
inventory, then drop support.

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From: blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn)
Subject: Re: Toys'R'Us and Lynx letter writing...
Organization: The MITRE Corp. Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:37:21 GMT

In article <1hqu7bINNh05@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:

   I think it is about time that we started a letter campaign to
   the executives at Toys'R'Us and tell them that there is a demand for
   the Lynx and game cards at their stores.

Writing letters might be very effective, but the above is just silly.
No offense meant, I'm silly sometimes too.  Letters can only indicate
what the demand *might* be.  The executives at T-backwardsR-U know
exactly what the actual demand is, because they track every item sold.
They know the demand down to decimal points in every city.  If you're
going to write, go direct to Atari and let them know how much their
screwups are costing them.

--
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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Newsgroups: alt.games.lynx
Subject: Lynx - bad sign!
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:04:00 GMT
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I just got the Sunday edition of the New York (City) Daily News...
in it there is a sale paper for Toys "R" Us, it has a huge section for
game systems and their games, and guess what..., the Lynx is nowhere
to be found!

They advertise: Super Nintendo, Gameboy, Game Gear, Nintendo, Genesis,
TurboExpress, and Turbografx-16, all of the Game Genies and hand held
games from Tiger.  NO LYNX... I bought a system that has no
following!!!

I should have gotten a Game Gear!  Sorry Robert but I've lost faith in
Atari's ability to market and support their product.  I can't even
find games for it; Not in T"R"U, The Wiz, Kiddie City, Electronic
Boutique (mail order catalog dropped the Lynx too!), Kaybee can a Lynx
game be found.  The machine isn't even mentioned.  When the TG-16 is
displayed more prominently than the Lynx quittin' time has come...

Just my view o' things...
- Darin

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From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Re: Lynx - bad sign!
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:10:00 GMT
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In article <1992Dec29.022615.14259@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, dlk0ms9s@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes...
>In article <28DEC199203154402@mary.fordham.edu>, areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>> 
>> Not to be blunt myself, but...; how the hell do stores in other cities
>> and states apply to me?  I bought my Lynx in New York, after I did
>> every store that I saw it in dropped it (T"R"U, The Wiz, Software
>> etc.), and the line disappeared from the E. Boutique catalog sent to
>> my house.  You guys missed my point, I can find somewhere around 5
>> games total where I live.  Do you expect me to go running around the 
>> country to find games? Hell no!  I don't think NYC is the center of
>> the Universe, but it is a hell of a big market for the Lynx to
>> disappear from!  Like I said the TG-16 survives (at 69.95) and 
>> it's career has not been stellar.
> 
>   Hey, I live in Jersey and was in NYC just last week and ran into three
>places that HAD LYNX systems and games, includin TRU next to the A&S shopping
>centre.  I also can go to at least 6 stores local to me in Jersey(Monmouth
>County) that have LYNX's in stock all year.  Granted ONE Software Etc keeps
>dropping it, then they bring it back... 
> 
>Mark Santora

Last time I went to that TRU they had something like 4 games, and the
ones that sold out were not replaced.  I don't get to jersey much at
all, I don'na have a car, Hmm... maybe I'll learn how to drive...
Tell me where the other two places are, I'll definitely go check them
out... 

- Darin

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