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From: cmermag@smoke.brl.mil (Chris Mermagen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Hottest-looking car of all time
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:43:42 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD.


Have you seen the latest issue of R&T?? or maybe C&D, I forget, but it
had the new Jaguar (I think it is the XJ220).. Now that is one hot
looking car.. IMHO

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From: wesf@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:30:00 GMT
Subject: Re: WANTED-OLDSMOBILE
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.autos

Try Hemmings Motor News.  I've seen a lot of them in there.  What year(s)
is he after?  They are kind of grouped as pre-'72, '73-'75, '79, '83-'84.

I'll sell my '75 for the $11K that I've got invested (wasted?) in it but
it's a little above the $5K available.

Wes Fujii

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Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.sport,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.vw
From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: reliable cars
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:05:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.190956.27177@phri.nyu.edu> roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
] tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
] >I _HIGHLY_ recommend an '81 or later Rabbit Diesel.  I know someone who has

Count me in! I drive an '84. It's been involved in about 6 accidents. The
rear end got squashed in a rear-ender but was pulled back out. Each of the
front side fenders has been clobbered. the rear axle has been broken in
an off road excursion on an icy day. It has 100k miles. AND it gets
around 55 city / 65 hwy mpg!!! This is summer of course. I don't drive it
much in the winter as it likes to be warm. It's not that it runs poorly
in winter because it gets warmed up. But starting it is a hassle unless
you plug it in - a nice feature that VW provided!!! In high school, I'd
run an extension cord from the lobby to my car during the winter. All the
kids thought I had an electric car!

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From: ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm)
Subject: Re: HumVee 4 Sale??
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:39:53 GMT


Sorry, don't have my library with me, but check out the last
sever months of the major tech rags (Pop Sci, Pop Mech.)
I read the article at the barber shop.

BTW, you could get a good jeep AND a Porsche for the same
money!

Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rot@mickie.id.macsch.com (Rohit Thukral)
Subject: Re: ....Integra A/C and Headlights.......problem ?
Reply-To: rot@mickie.id.macsch.com
Organization: MSC, Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:40:12 GMT

All second generation Integras make the clicking sound when
the A/C is on. My dealer claims that its the sound of the 
compressor going on/off. However, I've never seen the 
headlights dim when the A/C is on.
I'll check my car tonight.

Rohit Thukral

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm)
Subject: Re: How Accurate is the Blue Book?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 01:21:55 GMT


A "blue book" price is just an average of prices collected.

But the "blue book" price is what your financial institution
will finance 80 percent of....therefore it is definitive!

Jeff
Who uses his credit union.
Too much!
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From: getman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven R. Getman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors and regular people
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:14:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB


Yes, but I think the point as to newer cars being able to travel faster is a
function more of brakes and handling than just being able to get up to
cruising speed.  Your Grand Fury may be able to fly along at 100+ without any
difficulty.  It may even handle OK (relative to that speed.)  My question is,
how long would it take you to stop?  :)


Steve
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: s8276758@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (AVINOAM SHMUELI)
Subject: Re: Seek Opel Corsa (Israel only)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:24:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.181837.13787@ctr.columbia.edu>, eliaz@csc.technion.ac.il (Amir Eliaz) writes...
>I am looking for an Opel Corsa 1.2 L. 3/5 doors 1986/7.
>Answers from Haifa(Israel) or Tel-Aviv(Israel) ONLY to :
>eliaz@csc.cs.technion.ac.il
> 
>04-294326 Amir.

Amir,
It's nice to see reminders from HaAretz such as your note on this list...

But I think most of us here on the Western Hemisphere would use the
"distribution" feature to limit such a locally-oriented item.

No Opels here in western Massachusetts, sorry...

--Avinoam (shmueli@student.umass.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Lotus Elan vs Mercury Capri
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:00:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

TE00@polytec1.polymtl.ca writes:
>I just read in R&T that Lotus has stopped production of the Elan.
>It handled great, but didn't sell well (too expensive for its class?)

If you check out that same issue of R&T, you will see that a
Lotus Seven cost $4000 new thirty years ago.  I did some calculations
and the new Elan was about the same percentage over average car prices
as was the old Elan and Europa.

alan



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From: darkstar@toz.buffalo.ny.us (peter leone)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: '86 Subaru - reset EGR light, how?
Keywords: subaru EGR light
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:21:16 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)691-3865

breid@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com (Bill Reid) writes:
> 
> Does this book cover the Legacy models?  I have looked for a Haynes or 
> Chiltons manual for Legacys in parts stores, and it doesn't look like 
> they have put one out yet.  Are there any books available for the  
> Legacy?

        The book I have, I bought before the Legacy models came out. It 
covers All Subaru models from 1975 to 1988 except the Justy. I don't know 
if a new version has been published. 

                                Peace,
                                        Peter Leone
Darkstar@toz.buffalo.ny.us                              Go Sabres!!!!!!!!
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: garyp@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Gary Palangian)
Subject: Lifter Noise in 88 Nissan Pathfinder
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:59:34 GMT




When I bought my 1988 Nissan Pathfinder, the sales dude told me
the clicking under the hood was from noisy fuel injectors.
A common malady of Nissan engines.  (I know... I know)
Anyway, Now with 50K miles on it, the engine clicks much
more loudsly than before, especially when I start up
the machine.  The engine does not burn any oil and there
doesn't appear to be any ill effects aside from a little
embarassment when pulling up to the Wendy's drive-thru.


I was wondering:  Should I do something about it?  Would it be
stupid to use those chemicals on the market that are supposed
to reduce valve noise (Slick 50 and stuff like that)?  Any advice
would be appreciated a lot.


Thanks ahead of time.
From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Mazda Miata Info
Keywords: mazda miata mailing list
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:07:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Is there a Miata mailing list in existance?  If one does not
exist, I would consider forming one if there is enough interest.

Steve


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From: hh2@prism.gatech.EDU (Hap Haas)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: 1981 Mazda 626 / Ford Courier:  Alternative Engines ??
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:48:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

What engines (other than the original) will fit in the Mazda 626 (and the
Ford Courier) of the years around 1980-1983?

I have a 1982 Mazda 626 and the engine is going south for the second time.
I'd like to put something more durable and more powerful in it.  Prefer-
ably an engine that will mount to the transmission and motor mounts
without modification.

If anyone has any suggestions at all, please let me know!

Thanks.

hh
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From: wlp1@gte.com (William L. Papp)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 1965 Volvo 544
Keywords: Volvo 544 - FOR SALE
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:58:51 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA


	1965 Volvo 544 FOR SALE
	White, B18 Motor, Restored with original parts
	New Michelins, VERY Clean !
	All Receipts.

If interested you can email me at
wlp1@bunny.gte.com
mesa@tahiti.gte.com
!harvard!bunny!wlp1
From: miked@syscon.rn.com (Mike DeMetz)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Yes, you can buy a Hummer
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:42:44 GMT
Organization: Syscon Corporate Headquarters - South Bend, IN USA

A local charity is raffeling one off at $40 a chance with only 2000
chances being sold. The Hummers are made here in Mishawaka.
From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence Leong)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:06:52 GMT
Subject: Re: New Volvo 740 or the end of 740
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In rec.autos, gong@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (jiechen.james.gong) writes:

|Hi,
|
|Does anyone know when they will redesign (or replace) Volvo 740 and
|740 wagen?  A saleman told me that Volvo will discontinue the 740
|saden next year.  Is that ture?

The 740 is supposed to be replaced by the 940.  Similarly, 960 for the 760.

lawrence

|
|Thanks,
|James
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.sport,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.vw
From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: reliable cars
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:14:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.054125.28541@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> lusky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jonathan R. Lusky) writes:
] You left out one major part, which i suspect may have been what stranded
] the previous poster...  The injection pump!  Don't ever run a vw diesel out of
] fuel!

I did this once. I usually keep the amount of fuel in my tank low. One time,
I was really low and was on my way to the fuel station. Somehow, like the
dunce I am, I forgot where I was going. As I passed the fuel station, my
throttle quit responding. I suddenly realized I was out of fuel and had just
passed the station. I pulled over into the next parking lot, ran back to the
station, bought a 1 gallon fuel can, filled it up, ran back to the car,
poured it in, and it started right up! Then I just drove back to the
station and filled it up. Somehow, it didn't cause a problem to be out
of fuel!

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From: james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Stealth? NOT!
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:20:46 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <jimf.713815331@centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.233607.16906@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, 
>ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm) writes:
>> But according to the Car Rags, black cars DO have smaller
>> radar signatures.
>
>Really?  Which car rags are those?
>
>Lidar signatures, yes.  IR is close enough to visible light that
>visible pigmentation is likely to affect it.  But radar?  I think the
>car rags you read are having bouts of wishful thinking (maybe they've
>read too many articles on the Stealth Bomber).  The car's construction
>will have a lot more effect on the radar signature than its paint,
>assuming of course that they didn't start developing radar-absorbant
>paint while I wasn't paying attention.
>
>jim frost
>jimf@centerline.com


What about metallic colors versus arcrylic enamel. I think the metallic
flakes would increase the radar sig.
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From: root@acpy01.att.com (System Administrator(CXNIXCN1))
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 93 models
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:30:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)


>What is the GS300?  Is this a sportier Lexus coming out soon?  Any details on
>cars in this class in 93 would greatly be appreciated.
>
>Karen

According to the automotive press new '93 LEXUS GS300 will be based on 
TOYOTA ARISTO, which is a RWD 3.0-6-24v sport sedan.
It will get the same engine as a LEXUS SC300 (225hp) and will be a little
smaller than LEXUS LS400.
Also, new '93 TOYOTA CRESSIDA will be based on the same car, but will have more
conservative styling. (same idea as ES300 and Camry)
The price for GS300 will probably be in $35-40.000 range with CREESIDA
costing about $5.000 less. (that's my own guess).
I think GS300 will be able directly compete with '93 300E, which will have
new 2.8-6-24v (about 200 hp) and 3.2-6-24v (about 230 hp).
The difference being in "prestige" and about $10-15.000, since '93 300E
will probably sell for $45-55.000.
From: msl30@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Laser RS Turbo...C/D's Best Bang for the Buck Winner...
Keywords: Or are they mistaken in all this???
Date: 22 Aug 92 09:12:15 GMT
Reply-To: msl30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug21.130742.5474@metter.fmpmis.metter.com> virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (curious vIRgO) writes:
>
>Hello, fellow auto-philes:
>
>Many of you,I am sure, have already read Car&Driver's latest issue and are
>aware that this year's "Best Bang for the Buck" was the Plymouth Laser RS
>Turbo. So, any ideas?? Comments??? Opinions???? Flames?????
>
>Also, I canna' understand why C/D always throws a car out of class(price,
>model,etc.)in with a group of cars that are pretty much the same in class.
>First, it was the SHO Taurus against the Maxima SE/Camry SE. THIS time,they
>put,what I consider,affordable sports/GT models adn then throw the curve
>by smooshing in a Mazda RX-7 R1(then again, I may be screaming for naught,
>I canna' remember the price for this car, but I assume it's WAY out of league
>with the others...please correct me if I'm wrong, and spouting off for
>naught...again).
>
I also wondered why they included the RX-7 and 300ZX but not the Vette.  It
seems to me that there were a lot of cars overlooked like the NX2000, Sentra SER, and a few others.  I thought the reasoning behind the Bang for the Buck
competetion was to find the least expensive car with the most power and best
handling.  It seems that the Motor Trend drivers just wanted a reason to
beat on the RX-7 and needed the 300ZX for comparison.

               Mike
From: mallick@crd.ge.com (John Mallick)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Michelin MXV tire and its competitors
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:27:05 GMT
Reply-To: mallick@crd.ge.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corp. Research And Development


-- 
Michelin MXV's are OK, as long as you don't want to drive in the snow.  Even on my Audi
Quattro they were skittish; my sister had them on her Honda Accord, and it was almost
undrivable in snowy conditions.  She switched to Goodyears, and the difference was like
night and day.


John A. Mallick WA1HNL
GE Corporate Research and Development
Schenectady, NY 12301
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: Replacement tire pressure
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:35:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.222840.10705@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> xepama@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (P.Mann) writes:
>My VW van needs new tires.  The ones which it had are no longer
>made.  My tire dealer has recommended a different brand. 

>My problem is that the owners' manual states I need to have 39 PSI
>in the front tires and 48 in back for normal loads, and the replacement
>brand has a max pressure of 40 PSI.  It seems to me that the newer tires
>would be unsuitable, yet the maker claims they are the correct model
>for my vehicle.

>Can someone out there give me a good explanation of how a 40 PSI tire
>can meet a 48 PSI requirement?  Neither the dealer nor VW's 800 number
>answer man has been able to convince me.  Thanks.

you're focusing on the wrong parameter; the VW van manual is
providing recommended pressures for your car with OE tires.
your principal concern should be the load rating on the tires;
in the string 185/70R15 85H, (something similar to this should
appear on the tire sidewall) the load rating is the 85 in 85H
(at the end.)  if the new tires have a load rating that is
sufficiently high, then use them, and inflate as recommended
by the VW number or by the tire dealer.

cheers,
  richard
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From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: $758 for an oil change?
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:14:02 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Aug21.185029.15472@julian.uwo.ca>, 
wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
> You're missing my point.  Instead of getting you're car fixed by a
> 'professional', and working for a week to pay the job off (and not
> seeing you're kids or spouse while you're at work), why not take the
> week off, spend 1 or 2 or 3 days to to the job your self (putting in a
> 10 or 12 hr day(s) if needed) and then you can spend the extra day(s)
> with your family.  The end result (money-wise) would be the same.
> 
> Or just take the necessary day(s) off and focus on the car repair for
> 8/10/12 whatever hrs (you're not missing any family time here, you'd
> be at work if you weren't fixing the car) and be ahead money-wise.

Not to continue inflaming this issue, but I think you're missing
my point.  I don't have a week to take off to work on my car.  I don't
have a day to take off.  What time I do have I try to spend with my
children and wife.  In this area as in many others we don't have the 
luxury of deciding to take time off very often.  certainly not on the
fly.  

My point is that there are other factors that figure into whether
having a "professional" do the job or doing it yourself is the best 
answer.  In my case, my wife works and so do I and like most people 
in the Bay area we work 50 to 60 hours a week.  My spare time is worth
quite a bit of money to me.  In the case of the $500 that MY DEALER
quoted for my car, it is worth to me to have him do it.

The other thing I object to which several have indicated, is the attitude
that a mechanic is not going to do a decent job on the car.  I think that
you are assuming quite a bit to say that because you are not working on
your car that it is not going to receive proper care and treatment.  A
professional mechinic is just that -- a mechanic, and this is his or her 
job.  

What you are saying is that this person takes no pride in their 
work and doesn't make any attempt to do their job correctly.  I would
take issue with that.  I don't feel like I have to do my own programming
for everything -- I trust a programmer at Lotus to program 123, does that
mean that I shouldn't use Lotus 123, because I didn't do the programming?

I don't think it is fair to make statements that apply to others which 
may in fact not be accurate.  The mechanic at my Ford dealer may be 
very good and may be a dedicated individual who does try to do his job
correctly.  I imagine most mechanics do feel that way.  If they didn't they
would not get much satisfaction out of their jobs and would probably quit to
become something else.





Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.sport,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.vw
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Production Delay (Was: Re: reliable cars
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:50:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.160444.4189@microplex.com> hsk@microplex.com (Harjeet Kalsi) writes:

>When the next generation Golf/Jetta make their debut in a few months here they
>will have a new (finally!) diesel/turbodiesel 1.9 liter engine, that pumps out
>as much horsepower and a lot more torque than there gas engines of a just a 

Ummm, in case any of you haven't heard, the release of the 1993 A3 body cars
has been officially delayed until January now. In Mexico, the labor leaders
are elected officials, and go to the table without the workers voting. Well,
they signed a contract with VW, and then the labor decided they didn't like
what the labor leaders worked out and so started rioting. VW locked the
workers out, and shut down the plant, while the army was called in to stop
the vandals, rioting, and looting. As it stands now, production has been
stopped, and the introduction delayed until 1993. (Longer if this keeps
up.)

Eurovan, Corrado, Passat, and Cabriolet production is right on key though.
The Passat GLX is *slightly* delayed though. For those who haven't seen it,
the A3 Cabriolet is a *SWEET* looking car! Until the next time! Tschus!