From: Donna.D'Iorio@f7022.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Donna D'Iorio)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: 2 Juster/Paulk
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:01:04 GMT
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    Post 2 in response to Tom Albrecht:
TA>From: topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
TA>Date: 29 Sep 92 00:08:22 GMT

Continuation of Dan Juster's comments on Kingdom Now:
    "The Kingdom Now movement believes that believers should demonstrate
the principles of the Kingdom of God in every realm of life, not just in
personal piety. Hence we are to be witnesses of righteousness in the
business world, the world of government, the world of art, education,
science, the family, medicine and much more. I agree with this emphasis.
Actually, the Kingdom Now people have unkowingly recovered the Puritan
revivalist perspective on many issues.
    "I am troubled by some trends in the Kingdom Now movement, however.
At times, the emphasis on the role of the Church becomes so stressed
that the role of Israel is lost from view. This is a serious problem
since the future of Israel and the Church are bound together. The
replacement theory, wherein the Church becomes the new and true Israel,
replacing fully old national Israel, has made its reappearance in some
Kingdom Now circles. (Even many of the Puritans saw a significant place
for Israel and wrote concerning the crucial role of the Church in
Israel's salvation leading to world redemption.  "The Puritan Hope" by
Murray deals with this.)  Some do not realize that you can believe in
God's covenant with Israel without being a dispensationalist. My
comments in "Roots" on replacement theology deal with this issue.
    "Some Kingdom Now people have, in line with the above error, adopted
a subjective mode of interpretation and have lost touch with authorial
intent as the ultimate meaning of a text.  This text meaning forms an
objective basis for testing doctrine. Although the Spirit of God may say
many things to many people through a text, doctrinal foundations must be
based on the writer's intent in context. When a-millenial symbolic
exegesis is combined with a revelatory subjective approach to the text,
we could be in for great danger. The bedrock of authorial intent is
crucial.
    "In dialogue with Kingdom Now people, some of these criticisms have
been well received by some. It remains to be seen whether Messianic Jews
can enter into loving dialogue with Kingdom Now folks for their and our
mutual enrichment and correction. We need to approach these folks as
brothers, not heretics, who have discovered much in the way of Biblical
truth, but who need to hear and receive as well what God has shown us. I
believe the jury is still out on this movement. However, if they can
recover a clear place for Israel in their theology, avoid being enamored
with worldly success, and recover an emphasis on authorial intent for
Biblical interpretation,the Kingdom Now people could bring a significant
revitalization to the whole Church. These folks dearly love the LORD and
the moving of His Spirit. We must pray and trust that God will reveal
more of his truth to them."    --Dan Juster, Preface remarks
                  "Jewish Roots: A Foundation of Biblical Theology"

    From a recent UMJC conference session Juster said:  (Some people
say) "the Kingdom Now Movement is replacement theology. No, it isn't.
The Kingdom Now movement is just 'Charismatics re-discover Reformed
theology!'"
    Reformed theology...this is where you are coming from, isn't it,
Tom?  That was Dan Juster's background, as well.  He confronts Paulk
because he speaks the language.
    Believers have thrown rocks at each other for centuries. Dan Juster
does not compromise anything in seeking rather to build bridges where
it is possible.
    Divide and conquer, eh, Tom?  You like this device, huh?
    Donna D'Iorio

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