HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: cats vs snow (was: Re: It's Raining Out! (was RE: baths))
Summary: some rain-hating cats *love* snow
Keywords: wet raining cat fur damp sodden snow white fluffy play cavort
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 23:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.030715.2890@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies) writes:
>Pete usually used his own door except when he could bully me into opening 
>a people door for him, which he preferred.  But he would not use his door 
>when there was snow on the ground.
>
>While still a kitten all fluff and buzzes, Pete had worked out a simple 
>philosophy.  I was in charge of quarters, rations, and weather; he was 
>in charge of everything else.
>
>But he held me especially responsible for weather.  Connecticut winters 
>are good only for Christmas cards; regularly that winter Pete would 
>check his own door, refuse to go out it because of that unpleasant white 
>stuff beyond it (he was no fool) the badger me to open a people door. 

Funny, Mortina (I), who hated rain, actually rather liked snow.
Once or twice she got hung up on her (at the time fat) belly, but
generally she'd leap and bound about in it, much to the detriment
of the (at that time of year very hungry) local rodent and avian
populations...  In her first winter or two she would bat at this funny
white stuff, but she got more sedate as she matured.  Still, so
long as it was fairly dry, fluffy, powder-type snow, though, she didn't
seem to mind it much.  And it was always cute to wake up in the
morning after an overnight snowfall and see kitty-paw-prints
crisscrossing the lawn and driveway.

In contrast, Mortina II likes snow about as much as she likes rain,
i.e. about "minus infinity".

- Jonathan Thornburg and Mortina II (alas 4000km away on an island in Canada)
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
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From: AS.RAF@forsythe.stanford.edu (Rebecca Fenton)
Subject: Re: Great toys!!
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:21:02 GMT

Best Toy to date in our house...

An old fishing rod and reel.  Tie something on the end (aluminum
foil ball?) and practice your cat fishing!

All of the cats I have had have found this to be a great toy.  It
can even teach them to fetch!


Becky - proud pet of Miss Angelica Pureheart (NOT!)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: indoor/outdoor Kitties
From: esaia@vax.sonoma.edu (MICHELLE ESAIA)
Date: 13 Aug 1992 16:26 PST  
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonoma State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


I have had  4 cats, of which only one was (note the past-tense) an outdoor cat.
I have a cat now (sparky) who goes out (supervised) during the day.  The other
cats are strictly indoor kids...I NEVER want to find one of them dead by the
side of the road...The out-door kitty was alive for all of three years.

The rest are 8, 3, and 9 weeks, respectively.


Michelle 
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From: odkahn@eos.ncsu.edu (OPHER DANIEL KAHN)
Subject: Re: Question: Kitty pawing around floor around other cat's dish.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:09:33 GMT

|> When my kitties do this, I've been able to trick them by simply
|> picking up their bowl, pretending to put more food in, stir it
|> a little to make it sound like I'm adding more, and then putting
|> the bowl back on the floor. Usually works, though I wonder if
|> they really believe I'm adding more.
|> 
|> Steve
|> 

Mixing in a few drops of water to wet the 'old' dry food makes Fistuk
go for it will renewed enthusiasim (sp?).

-- 
 Opher D. Kahn
From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Flushable Litter Isn't
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:42:07 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <oqqc91o@fido.asd.sgi.com> jojo@sandman.asd.sgi.com (Jonathan Wesener) writes:
>I've been using flushable cat litter for almost 2 years and have 
>not had one single problem with plugged plumbing.  I have had problems
>with one particular brand which didn't break up nicely when it was
>flushed, it just sort of lumped up in the bowl and sat there.  I
>solved this slight inconvenience by avoiding that particular brand.
>

This sounds like the stuff I encountered which I described as 
"too stickey".    I never knew exactly which brand of litter it was, 
because of the timing - I don't rinse out the tub every day (Tamora
kitty's litter pan is in there and I rinse the litter, that she throws
out, down the drain).  I have wanted to avoid that particular stickey
brand, but don't know which it is.  If you remember, please post it
so I can avoid it in the future.

>I'm really quite pleased with the flushable cat litters and hope
>I never have to go back to the old style of litter hell.

I strongly agree.  If I had to give up my flushable litter, I swear
I would teach Tamora to use the john.  I just can't handle that old-
fashioned, smelly type.  Sometimes I can't imagine I ever used that 
stuff (I did for 8-10 years).  I'm completely sold on the flushable
litter.  :-)

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From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New cat--help will not sleep at night
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:13:17 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <tertium.714160942@milton> tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
>LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu (Leslie M. Haas) writes:
>>My friend is a brand new owner of a baby kitten, approximately 6
>>weeks old and it is named Malcolm.  She wants advice on how to
>>train it not to jump on her while she is sleeping!  We have
>>all given her advice at work (everyone owns at least one cat)
>>but to no avail.  It is time to seek advice from the experts.
>>Thanks in advance......
>> 
>Teee, heee.  Haa, Haa Haaa.  Oh that's a good one!  Lemme know what you
>find out.

C'mon now, the answer is obvious: close the bedroom door with the cat
on the other side!   Leave lots of toys on said other side and ignore
meows of protest.  Kitten will adjust in a few nights and find ways to
amuse itself.  When kitten is a bit older and less maniacal, open the
door again at night.

My kitten doesn't indulge in such antics until about 6am, which is close
enough to the time I get up to be tolerable.  In fact, it can be a lot of fun
playing "guess which body part I will move next".

Dave
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From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Sable Burmese question
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:31:57 GMT

My eight year old Sable Burmese Bali is going grey!  His fur is now
specked with flecks of grey at the tips!  Is this normal for Sable
Burmese, or is he so convinced he's human that he ages like one?

Another question: he has a "necklace" of markings, light brown 
"highlights" if you will.  The breeder told us that he was from
a subdivision of Sable Burmese called "Memchaz."  Is there any
truth to this?  Is it a penalty in cat showing?

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From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:08:56 GMT

The Halloween (you know, the classic sillhouette of the cat with an high
arched back)

Long Kitty (when he lies on his side and streeeeeetches all 4 legs as
far forward and back as possible -- I'd swear he's 4 feet long!)

Saalaam (when he sticks his butt into the air and stretches his forepaws
and head along the ground)

-- 
/\        Ilana Stern DoD#009 | Whoever first said, "Things are seldom as they 
  \_][    ilana@ncar.ucar.edu | seem," was wrong.  Things are usually as they
      \_______________________| seem.  Otherwise, they wouldn't seem that way.
From: aspasia@usability.Eng.Sun.COM (Lisa Louise Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Early, early morning wake up calls
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:02:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: usability

In article <0eWDwXu00iUyA1AM8R@andrew.cmu.edu> sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I have a problem. It is not a serious problem but something I thought my
>cat had grown out of.  Recently (the last 2-3 days) my cat, Jester, has
>decided that I should be up at 3am.  

What do you do when she wakes you up?  How do you respond?

Seems like mine, Aspasia, sees every disruption in daily routine as an
opportunity to revise said routine to her own satisfaction.  I had some
house remodeling done one summer, and Aspasia started getting active
at 3 or 4 in the morning.  At first I threw her out when she did this.
Then one time when I got up, she ran to the door and waited for me.
A light bulb lit up--I was being trained, not her!  So instead of putting
her outside, I put her in the basement.  I did this again the next two
times she woke me and she went back to being quiet at night.

Lisa Louise & Aspasia
From: deeds@oracle (Deanna J. Deeds)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:00:19 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Marlon Cole (cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk) wrote:
: What about "tuning in" (to the radio) ?
:      - this is what we call that priceless moment, inevitably when you're in
: polite company, when the cat decides to sit in the middle of the floor in order
: to clean its back end, with one back leg pointing skywards (a la radio aerial
: - hence "tuning in").

I believe someone else referred to this as the Anal Arabesque, which I thought
was cute.  Maybe they needed to set distribution: world or something for you
to see it.

My SO calls this pose "talking to Argentina", by the way, again using the
radio analogy.
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wants out)
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:01:54 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <HANNAH.92Aug18163716@pomponio.ai.sri.com> hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug10.203958.16722@gtephx.UUCP>, machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic) writes:
>> 
>> I'm betting that the outdoor cats live as long as, if not longer than, the
>> indoor cats.

Statistically this might be true.  But statistics wouldn't comfort me
very much if my favorite-ever cat turned up dead at an early age because
a dog or a car or a crazy person got him.  I lost my second-favorite-cat
ever at the age of about 2.  I won't go through that again.  My cats stay
inside, and they seem quite content.
.
.
.
..
.
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How many cats is too many?
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:35:50 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug15.050323.5579@pony.Ingres.COM> jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:
>I attended a city meeting recently regarding a proposed cat law.  The
>community expressed itself on the proposed limit of three cats per
>household.  Oh boy, did it express itself.  One citizen said, "it
>should be like wives in certain Middle Eastern cultures, you should
>have as many as you can afford!"

>Needless to say, this brought the house down.  But the point was well
>taken.  If you can afford eight or eighteen cats, and can take care of
>them, and you're not a health hazard to your neighbors, well, it's
>really none of the city's business.

I have a neighbor down the street that has 13.  You'd never know it either, 
until you go into their house.  It looks like they have 1 or two cats that
keep changing color.

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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: litter box troubles
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:29:35 GMT

You might try changing your cat's diet so she makes firmer poops that
aren't as likely to stick to her rear.  Eating too much can also cause
soft stools or diarrhea.  

My cats recommend Meow Mix!

-Sandra
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From: kjenks@krakatoa.uucp (Kenneth C. Jenks [GM2] 483-4368)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:58:01 GMT

In article <22994@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> deeds@oracle (Deanna J. Deeds) writes:
>Marlon Cole (cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk) wrote:
>: What about "tuning in" (to the radio) ?
>:      - this is what we call that priceless moment, inevitably when you're in
>: polite company, when the cat decides to sit in the middle of the floor in order
>: to clean its back end, with one back leg pointing skywards (a la radio aerial
>: - hence "tuning in").
>
>I believe someone else referred to this as the Anal Arabesque, which I thought
>was cute.  Maybe they needed to set distribution: world or something for you
>to see it.
>
>My SO calls this pose "talking to Argentina", by the way, again using the
>radio analogy.

(Sorry, forgot some.)  This is the flagpole position - suitable for 
running up a flag.

The front paws turned under, no visible back paws, tail curled close
position in short hair cats is the meatloaf position, in long
haired cats, its the hovercat position.
   
Since Sine & Cosine are twin blue tabbies, when they are in the same
pose they are either book-end-kitties, or duplicats.

L. Jenks on K. Jenkses account
From: martha@gvlf7-o.gvl.unisys.com (Martha Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:18:34 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa

In article <19685@plains.NoDak.edu> myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:
>
>  Hi again.  Another question about those cats that I am contemplating
>on getting at the humane society has popped up.  After a reader answered
>my last question I went and asked and found that these cats have not
>been vaccinated for leukemia.  The price is too high for them to
>justify it.
>
>  Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
>altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
>are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
>Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
>cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
>free instead of dealing with the HS.
>
>Comments?  Thanks
>
>Robert


My questions to you are:  do you LIKE the cats from the shelter?  
Do they like YOU?

Is $30/cat too much money?  How much money do you anticipate spending on
shots/food/litter/vet care?  IMO, $30 really isn't much, when you put it in
perspective.

But, the important thing is whether or not you like these cats.  The joy you
will get from the cats is independent of the dollar amount you pay for them.
(I don't know if that came out right, but I hope you know what I mean... :-) )


Martha H. Sherman
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: SPONSELL@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Gary Sponseller)
Subject: Re: Rescue cat
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:51:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.200659.20176@ncar.ucar.edu>
vicki@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:
 
>                                                                     I
>can't imagine why I would ever want to bathe a cat ...
 
Well, try to imagine what a cat would look like if they ran up a chimney
and got fully sooted.  I had to bathe my cat three times in two weeks :-S
until I got the fireplace closed off.  The bath was pretty much required
since I didn't want my house soiled and the cat would probably get sick
if he ingested all that muck!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: HF.CLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Cynthia Ng)
Subject: Flushable litter isn't
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:29:10 GMT

Since I am new to the network I don't know if this has already been
discussed but I thought I would share the info anyway.  I started
using"flushable" cat litter believing the claims that it was safe to
flush the used litter down the toilet.  After two months my toilet
clogged.  Every plumber I have talked to since has told me
emphatically that nothing other than toilet paper should be flushed
down a toilet. Just in case you didnt know...

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From: oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann)
Subject: Re: Peeing, temperamental cats
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:58:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Aug7.202505.12951@gateway.novell.com> lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson) writes:
>least she is not peeing all over like she did last time we moved. Has  
>anyone else had temperamental cats that pee when they aren't happy or feel  
>threatened?

We have three cats, of whom at least one will pee/poop in the bathtub if 
the litterbox is not up to standards.  ( Never when it's possible to 
determine which cat, oh no !  It only happens when all three are inside
and have had an opportunity. )

Bandit will stand right in front of you and pee on the bathmat when she's
unhappy.  We got a puppy last year, and she was not a happy camper for a 
while, until being chased by the pup trimmed her down to the point where 
she could make the jump to the top of the bookshelves, where he could *not*
go.  ( we'd taken her in to the vet, as experience said that a cat doing 
something like that meant major medical.  just fine, said the vet.  a little
overweight, but nothing too serious ) 

Ritual disclaimer : My opinion and mine alone !  Convex, as best I can tell,
doesn't have opinions, being a corporate entity...
Carla Oexmann        {allegra, sun, harvard, uiucdcs, ctvax}!convex!oexmann
Convex Computer Corp.  3000 Waterview Parkway P.O. Box 833851 Richardson, TX
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Which litter? UK
Date: 12 Aug 92 09:08:13 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

I used to get   English Grey   for Truffle, and she was fine with it (she 
usually goes outside somewhere, but if the weather's bad or something...).
Last time I needed a new bag, the store didn't have it - the manufacturer 
had replaced it with Tidycat+ and the store owner claimed it was the same 
stuff (actually in small print it says New Formulation English Grey).  My 
dear cat hasn't used the tray since, though I can see she's had a walk 
through it a couple of times.  So what UK-available litters do your cats 
like?  If you use/used English Grey, have you had this problem?  etc etc

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From: marie@ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:45:37 GMT
Reply-To: marie@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

My favorites:

The Brush-By
The Head Butt
"Much Trembling in the Hind Quarters" (observed mostly in connection with
 the Brush-By and the Head Butt)
The Bladder Walk (otherwise known as Early Morning Wake-Up Call)
Bunny Toes (when they flip on their backs and their front paws bend over,
 very cute like a bunny)
The Sphinx (sit with paws extended)
The Handbag (sit with paws curled under body--if you put a handle on top,
 voila!  A very funky handbag)
Bookends/Mirrors (Anyone else feel like it is more that mere coincidence
 that 2 cats so often can sit in *exactly* the same way at the same time?)
The Seal (Tros does this one--when he lies on his side with his paws
 curled under, his hind legs cross and look just like flippers.)
Pronking--same as "toastering" (I love it! :-))
The Anal Arabesque (sit down and lift hind leg straight up to lick nether
 regions)
Climbing the Walls (literal--take full running leap, jump at doorframe,
 hang on as long as possible, then slide down with claws extended)

Marie

I love cats because I love my home and after a while
they become its visible soul.
	-Jean Cocteau
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: help! piggy kitty
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:37:13 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug16.224915.2807@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>Nerfball, the 5-month-old kitten who adopted me last month, is still
>having food-related problem behaviors.  He obviously needed feeding up
>when he first arrived but after he started eating himself sick I put
>him on a diet where he gets 1/2 cup of kitten chow twice a day.  This
>seems to be the right amount of food for him from a nutritional point
>of view, but I'm getting really concerned about his continuing
>attitude problems.  He devours his chow so fast that I'm afraid he's
>going to choke on it, meows pitifully for more, begs for handouts
[etc.]

This maybe an overly obvious question, but have you had him checked for
tapeworms?

Dave
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: "Jack Previdi" <p00020@mail.psi.net>
Subject: re: Garlic and Brewers Yeast
Organization: Royal London Ballet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:12:24 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.11)

Date: 12 Aug 92 16:58:40 GMT
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)

> Does anybody think that Garlic and Brewers Yeast tablets (that was
> meant for the dogs, but the Siamese cat stole one) would hurt a
> cat?  She's fine this morning, a little more talkative than usual.
> I'm sure she ate it.  She even came back later looking for more.

	 Brewers yeast is good for cats. Sprinkle some on their wet
	 food, along with a pinch of garlic powder.

	 The yeast is said to make the cats unpalatable to fleas.
	 One of our cats had a flea problem for about a week (from a
	 visiting littermate), then the fleas disappeared, probably 
	 into the carpet. But that's another story.

	 The garlic just plain tastes good to cats and especially dogs.

	 Powdered brewers yeast can be found in any health food store,
	 and it's very cheap. 


	Jack Previdi                        
        p00020@mail.psi.com

 





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