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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: TP:FWWM UK Release?
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:27:16 GMT


Having heard that the US release date for the film is August 28, I'm starting
to get a little worried. Does anyone out there know the release date for the
UK? So far I haven't seen *any* hype about the film here at all, no trailers,
no articles, nothing. And will it get a large mainstream distribution or will
it only show at selected arthouse cinemas?

Please, if anyone knows the answers, I'd very much like to know!

Mike

PS Email is preferred to posting.
From: robertj@Autodesk.COM (Rob Jellinghaus)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: I want my garmonzobia!  (spoiler?)
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:58:45 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

In article <p5h0nq4@fido.asd.sgi.com> sjohnson@faulen.asd.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes:
>i want my garmonbozia!

that's the ticket.

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From: jsnell@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason Snell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM Brief Comment
Date: 29 Aug 1992 08:21:06 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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First, a response:
William Kent writes:
>All I know is that the film has none of the humour that I liked in the series
>and all of the weird crap that I couldn't stand.  What a waste of five bucks.

If you can't find humor in the entire opening sequence (all the stuff with
Chris Isaak and Kiefer Sutherland), then I'm really sorry for you. True, the
last 2/3 of the movie was dead serious, but the first 1/3 was a riot.

My opinion of FWWM is this: While it was filled with wierd stuff and brought
up more questions than it answered, I enjoyed watching it. I doubt most non-
peaks people will like it, because I don't think it stands well as a movie
(well, not the second section.. the first does fine, I think). 

The first section really was great, with our weird FBI guys and their
brilliant deductive powers, as well as Harry Dean Stanton's trailer park 
(reminds one of Big Tuna, Texas, actually...) :)

What can I say? With its multitude of faults, it's still the best movie
I've seen this summer, considering just how bad most of the big movies this
summer have been. True, Lynch is a nut, but I enjoy watching his weird
ideas on screen, and I enjoy trying to put together the pieces of the puzzle
he's put in front of me. I don't even know if they fit together; chances are,
half the pieces are missing. But it's still fun to speculate about what the
puzzle is, even though I don't have all the pieces.

Rings, little men, more of the Tremonds and creamed corn, and the sheer joy of 
seeing nuts like Leo Johnson again (though the log lady's appearance was
worthless) made this a fun movie to watch. It was disturbing, as it should
be... we're talking about evil, and about incest and drug abuse and all other
sorts of things that ruin people's lives. 

Lynch is a nut, and his movie isn't the greatest at imparting information. But 
compared to other directors who focus on style over clear plotting (Tim
Burton, director of _Batman Returns_, one of the worst movies I've ever 
seen, are you listening?), Lynch is a god. I enjoy watching his work, even
if it's deeply flawed or makes little sense. So sue me.

-jason

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From: bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Subject: Re: The Pink Room (musical (slight) spoiler) (NOT!)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:13:18 GMT


While "The Pink Room" may or may not have been in the TV series,
there's another song (if you can call it that) on the FWWM
soundtrack that was.  I'm almost sure that "The Black Dog Runs
at Night" was played in the 2nd season finale while Coop was in
the Red Room.  The only difference was that it didn't have Angelo
Badalamenti constantly chanting the title.

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From: jgp@zodmate.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Lynch's Address
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:28:18 GMT

01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

>Does anyone out there at what address I can reach David Lynch? I have done a 
>sketch of him I would like him to have as a "Thank you" for TP, but I don't
>know where to send it. Any information would be appreciated.

Don't have the address, but the phone number for Lynch/Frost Productions
is (213) 957-9013.

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From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Subject: Re: FWWM (SPOILERS), Laura's life, Leland
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:01:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.223238.2393@cs.brown.edu>, ST201643@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:
|>SPOILERS AHEAD.....

|> My significant other disliked the movie because she had an image in her
|> mind of what Laura's life was like, and the Laura portrayed in the movie
|> didn't match.  I didn't feel this way, but I was wondering if anyone else
|> did. ?

Sort of. I was expecting to see more of a struggle between good
and evil in Laura's character. In the series, we were told about
all the good things she did - meals on wheels, helping Johnny
Horne, tutoring Josie. These things made it more shocking to the
town, and to us, when Laura's dark side was revealed. In the movie, 
she had few redeeming qualities. Even when she was with James, it
didn't seem as though she was trying to be good. I think it would 
have helped if we had seen this battle going on inside Laura.

The same is true for me about Leland. In the series, Leland was
a good guy, a very good guy. It was *really* startling the first
time we saw him look in the mirror and see Bob. In the movie,
Leland was portrayed from the start as seriously messed up, which
makes it less shocking when we see that he is Bob (which we knew
already of course, so maybe it doesn't matter).
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From: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer)
Subject: Second season on tape?
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:42:35 GMT


Ok, I'm hooked.  After watching the premiere and all of the first season
episodes thanks to the local video rental store, I've become a big TP fan.

I'd be eternally grateful to anyone who could lend or rent or sell or tape
(within legal limits, of course) the second season episodes to/for me.  Any
offers?  Reply via email;  I'll make it worth your trouble.

thanks,

tom

tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu
From: bobk@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bob Kelley)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:06:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks,7pm Fr Towne cinema
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks

I went to a sneak preview of FWWM yesterday at the Towne (Thur 27Aug).  They
had the party people from F/X do their "Agent Cooper's Dream" skit/dance 
before the actual movie.  

The movie got lots of cheers in the first half but wound up with funeral
quiet respect at the end.  No final applause.
From: z_woodsjl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: IGNORING ME???
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:09:18 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

What's going on here... I have posted 2 times in this newsgroup and gotten
absolutely no response.

I'm normally a nice and friendly person, but I don't enjoy being left out,
on the other hand.

All I wanted to know was, "How did Audrey Horne die?"

Are you all elitist?  Or are there some friendly ones out there?  I sure
hope so!

Thank you kindly.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM - spoilers...
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:46:20 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <Btv6M9.4tA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:
>sjohnson@faulen.asd.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes:

>>ronette gets her letter B when leland taints her IV in the hospital in the
>>second season.

>   Has this been established?

Yes.  They never specified how Leland got into her room, but it was
definitely an act of BOB.
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 21:48:39 -0400 
From: Jeremy Matthew Toeman <jt3h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 'nuther question (or 2)


Has Lynch stated as to if there is more to the story, or has he ended it
with this movie?

Also, I do not think that was Annie as the angel...

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From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Subject: Re: FWWM: box office news
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:01:41 GMT

In article <BtvGMD.H75@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
(Scott J Gorcey) wrote:
>      But I do think we'll see only a slight drop off of the nearly
>      2 million the movie took in this weekend when the stats for
>      next are released -- because it will be all of us goin back
>      for seconds.  If the drop off is very small, based on that and
>      that alone, NewLine would be justified in increasing distrib -
>      probably from 700 to 1200 venues.  (But the truly rotten reviews -
>      and Lynch's reputation as a cult filmmaker - don't make that sound
>      incredibly promising)...

Yup. The key here is what they call 'legs'. Some movies with good word of
mouth  maintain or even (rarely) grow. Others make a big splash the first
week but quickly loose steam. Saw a graph somewhere recently compared
"Thelma and Louise" with some other films whose names escape me. T&L kept
pulling them in at a decent rate for months while some films with much
bigger openings fell off the cliff.

Based on what we've seen here, it could go either way. Encourage all your
friends to go. Go several times (I'm going back for my third later this
week). I actually liked it more the second time.

-Rich Haller
From: ebozak@oswego.Oswego.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Question on the blue rose
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:58:57 GMT
Reply-To: ebozak@oswego.Oswego.edu ()
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Originator: ebozak@cloy.oswego.edu

My SO claims he saw a blue rose on the angel in the Red Room (or lodge?).
Is he correct? (I was so overwhelmed by it all, I missed this point.) Was 
there a blue rose on the angel in the picture, too? Or were there blue roses
in the picture's garden?


Esther S. Bozak		Internet: ebozak@cloy@oswego.edu
Computer Science	Bitnet: ebozak@synova.bitnet
SUNY Oswego
From: kandall@nsg.sgi.com (Michael Kandall)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: TP: 'Will FWWM smash and burn?'
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:08:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: Nihon Silicon Graphics, Japan

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 20:12:26 GMT, jgp@zodmate.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann) said:

Jim> Despite a smattering of applause, "Fire" opened largely to boos and actual
Jim> nausea at the Cannes Film Festival, a response attributable to the bloody,
Jim> sadomasochistic murder scene between father and daughter in the film's finale.

Must have gotten cut, or I am just not as sensitive as those French
critics.

Jim> Yet "Fire" is a huge hit in Japan, luring overflow crowds since opening last
Jim> May, during the festival. 

The Japan-thing is really getting overplayed a bit.  I went to a TINY,
TINY theater, and it was not filled.  OK, it was successful.  Give it
a rest.


Mike
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From: galuska@oz.asel.udel.edu (Scott Galuska)
Subject: Re: IGNORING ME???
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:27:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.140918.705@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_woodsjl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>What's going on here... I have posted 2 times in this newsgroup and gotten
>absolutely no response.

Well, I, for one, never saw yer postings...

>I'm normally a nice and friendly person, but I don't enjoy being left out,
>on the other hand.

What was on the first hand?

>All I wanted to know was, "How did Audrey Horne die?"

She got blowed up real good...

But then again, it seems to me that we should merely presume she was blowed
up- after the bank explosion scene, there was no further reference to it
at all (that I can remember...).

>Are you all elitist?  Or are there some friendly ones out there?  I sure
>hope so!

I'm elitist (I was raised Catholic, but converted... :-)), but I'll talk to 
you anyway...
-- 
Scott Galuska
Dept. of Computer & Info. Science        "There's no crying in baseball!"
Univ of Delaware
galuska@asel.udel.edu
From: v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Jurgen Prochnow is the log lady's husband?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <EecqE0C00UhWI1JAQZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, km46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ken Miller) writes...
> 
>   In the credits, Jurgen Prochnow is listed as Woodsman.  I remember
>from the series that the Log Lady said, "My husband was a logging man;
>he met the devil."
>What does everybody think about Jurgen being the Log Lady's husband?
> 
> 
I posted this on Saturday. I agree wholeheartedly. New thought: 
Prochnow's woodsman doesn't say anything that we can hear; 
perhaps he never did, and only a select few (Margaret, for example)
can hear him.
         Oh, well...just a thought...
                                 George...
"Shut Your eyes and you'll burst into flames."
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Just a Thought... Should it still be Alt.TV.Twin-Peaks?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     I guess that ^ says it all...  semantics question, and who really
     cares... but if PEAKS is to continue as films... Comments?
From: blojo@xcf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: SW Washington?
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:44:15 GMT
Organization: Free Hardware Foundation
NNTP-Posting-Host: graft.berkeley.edu

> TP is located in NEWashington.  how does this work out?  was
> leland visiting theresa in SW?  or did TB later move to the SW
> before leland visited her?

Explained by the simple line from the movie, when Theresa asks Leland,
"So, when's the next business trip?"

  -J.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM Continuity Quibble *SPOILERS*
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:02:38 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Just a screw-up between TP: FWWM and episode #2009 of the regular series.

As you of course all recall, in #2009 Donna and Cooper go to the late
Harold Smith's place (and the "Tremonds"' place too) and get the last
page of Laura's diary.  "Thursday, February 22nd.  Tonight is the night
that I die..." et cetera.

Now, these pages were never referred to in the movie.  Nor was the dream
that Laura said she had in them the night before her murder: the dream
where she told Cooper who BOB was.

Now, I can understand the omissions, after all the movie was hugely long
anyways.  But...

Laura gives her diary to Harold at the BEGINNING of the movie.  If she
didn't have the book, how did those pages get into it?

Now, bearing in mind that Episode #2009 was one big kludge anyway, I'm
looking for some way of explaining this that actually makes it all make
SENSE.
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From: kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann)
Subject: Re: TP:FWWM script anyone?
Originator: kwh@GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:37:05 GMT


moocow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>   I've spent the past 24 hours since seeing the movie pondering the imponderable
>   and i was wondering if any of the good people out there would help me by
>   sending or reposting the original shooting script. I remember something about
>   it being posted here several weeks/months ago and i didnt read it then so
>   as to save whatever surprises the film would hold.
>   thanks and thanks,
>   Xtian


I have a hard copy of that posting sitting here on my desk.  
I'm not sure if I still have it on disk somewhere.  I'll look.
But the persons who posted it are:

	mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece)
	Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN

	&

	st911277@pip.cc.branbeis.edu

Kevin
From: bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Subject: Re: Robert Engels at the Mpls premiere of FWWM (a spoiler or two--nothing big)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:25:21 GMT

Thanks for recapping what Engels said, Paul.  Useful information.

hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
>First, the movie was, in uncut form, about 3:40, in contrast to the measly
>2:09 that it pulled in at in the theatres.  He said that they expect to
>distribute the uncut version eventually on laserdisc, but the folks in
>charge wouldn't let them get away with a movie that long, apparently.

Does this mean they won't release an uncut laserdisc?  Or that the
folks in charge just wouldn't let them distribute a 3 hour plus
movie to movie theatres?

>It sounds like Cooper
>will NOT be doing the sequel (which has an estimated time of commencement in a
>couple of years -- Robert & David will be doing some other project next, and
>they don't plan to thing about the next TP movie until that project is out of
>the way).  What Robert Engels said was that Kyle did not want to become another
>"James T. Kirk" -- which he quickly pointed out DIDN'T happen to every actor,
>and gave another example which was lost in the recesses of my memory soon
>afterwards, but it was convincing enough anyway.

Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones?  No one seems to have typecast him.

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From: bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Subject: Re: Teresa's arm *SPOILERS*
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:03:25 GMT

SPOILERS

jblum@oberon.umd.edu (Jon Blum) writes:
>What happened to Teresa's arm?  Irene at Hap's diner said that it had
>gone completely numb for a while before her death.  Coincidence?

Probably not a coincidence.  If you watched carefully when Laura
found the ring in her hand, she was holding her left arm with
her right hand as if it had fallen asleep.  She had to lift the
arm over her body.  That was the hand in which she found the ring.

>Or could it be connected to the shaking hands in #2018?  Or BOB's
>arm reaching out into Glastonberry Grove later that same episode?

I didn't think about the shaking hand connection.  Does anyone
remember which hand shook?  Seems like a plausible connection.

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From: stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens)
Subject: Re: TP:FWWM script anyone?
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:56:52 GMT

I saved this posting a while back:

Article: 165 of alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Now we know who Mike is... (SPOILERS)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:01:13 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I just realized something. The Little Man From Another Place is Mike.
	Think about it: he "spoke" through the One Armed Man in the Lodge. I 
would therefor say that he is "possessing"  the OAM in the same way BOB
possesses Leland. We know the being possing the OAM is Mike. Therefore,
the LMFAP is probably MIKE. Neat, eh?
	So, I guess the Canadian tourism industry is in for a boom after
that Pink Room scene ;-)
Later, 
Mike (no, not *that* Mike!)
From: n1jwr@isuvax.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: SEARCHING FOR EPISODE 12
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:42:31 GMT
Reply-To: n1jwr@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa

I have a friend who has almost all of the T-P episodes, but is missing
episode twelve.  I know very little about the stuff, I just watched the first
two hour movie last night, and am going to watch an episode a night until I see
them all.  I would like to get a copy of the episode he is missing, but I don't
know what happens in it.  My friend does not count the first movie as number
one, and I believe there is a total of 20 episodes(?) counting this way.  
Does anyone have this episode and would be willing and able to make a copy for
me?  I will even send a tape, or cash equivalent ahead of time.  If it is
unclear as to which episode is number twelve, I can find out what happens in
the episodes before and after to be sure, or perhapse I can find out from him
what happens without giving away the suprise.   Thanks in Advance!


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