From: doug@lpf.umd.edu (does not exist)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: alt.personals and enforced monogamy
Summary: -=-=-< corrects in conceptions >-=-=-
Keywords: -=-=-< it's not nice to lie about things >-=-=-
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:58:54 GMT
Followup-To: you figure it out.....
Organization: organization?  we do'n need no stinkin' organization!
Cc: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com,bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca


In article <15078@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

>In article <1992Aug26.142559.16740@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> In article <15073@claris.com>, mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>> > In article <15117@umd5.umd.edu>, doug@lpf.umd.edu (does not exist) writes:
>> > > In article <15036@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>> > Your close-minded bigotry is
>> > really showing in that sentence.
>> >
>> > > >It must be hell being a mean-spirited, petty-minded bigot like you.
>> 
>> Mike, you sure like to call people bigots if their views are not yours.
>> I guess it's true what they say, "It's easier to call someone a bigot
>> to quieten them, than to debate your logic and have them change their
>> views."
>
>No, I'm not calling him a bigot because his vies are not mine.  I'm calling
>Doug a bigot because he has made all sorts of idiotic accusations about
>Darryl because Darryl won't run his service the way that Doug wants him to
>run it.  He has shown extreme bigotry toward Darryl, and has called Darryl
>quite a bit worse that what I have called him.  At first, I did try
>reasonable discourse, but he has shut his mind tighter than a clam.  That
>is why I called him a mean-spirited, petty-minded bigot.


	i don't seem to recall much in the way of discourse with you....
on *any* subject.  you ranted at me about bigotry, which i privately but
calmly refute as logically as was possible, and that was that!
	i agree that darryl does not run his service the way i *would* or
would like to see it run.  i further agree that he has *every* right to 
run *his* service the way he wants to run it, regardless of *anyone's*
opinion.  i even further agree with darryl's personal philosophy in many
areas, and have publically stated that in private e-mail and public riposts
he has been polite and friendly, and that i have no problems with him on
a personal level, merely that as an administrator of a service, overlayed
on a public and unmoderated newsgroup, he should be at a higher and different
level than an individual would/should be in that same environment.  in 
addition, he has an added responsibility to make certain aspects crystal
clear, and make sure there is a little room for error, or misconception by
*any one* about/concerning *HIS* specific service.
	i *PERSONALLY* disagree with the whole idea of anonimity.  it is
dishonest, and leaves the door open for misuse by irresponsible and ignorant
types who are relieved of responsibilities for their actions and words.  i
do understand the reasons for some people (completely legitimate, due to
the un-acceptance of their sexual persuasions, or some other criteria that
may not be considered acceptable by employers or mainstream thought) but
there is far more room for abuse, than benefit.
	i would suggest that someone who would run a service of this nature
should remove *their* personal morility from the administration only such
that it didn't violate certain legalities.  otherwise, it is just another
form of censorship.  (do not misunderstand me..... not *all* censorship is
necessarily bad.  it is simply an untennable position for *ONE* person to
determine what morality should prevail in an open and free environment such
as the alt.personals.*/usenet/internet.)
	i suggest that anyone who feels that i have been and am narrow-minded
and bigoted in my posts, check back through this, and any other group i
tend to frequent, and study what i have posted.  you will find that i have not
only *NOT* been bigoted, and narrow-minded, but just the opposite.  further,
i have been rather consistant and careful in my opinions, posts, and 
content.  i suggest that you may be in error in your assesment, simply because
either you disagree, or have mis-read/mis-interpreted what has been said
and/or posted by me!  i challenge to to produce either public or private
evidence to the contrary.   ....put up or shut up!	*{touch bin/smiles/#4}*

	another opinion, worth what you paid for it!
	as always, i am/at:

	     doug:  <doug@eng.umd.edu> : <doug@lpf.umd.edu>

	-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-< a ghost in the machine >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

	"presidential elections are planned distractions
	 to divert attention from the actions behind the scenes....
	 like a game of chess when the house is a mess, or
	 a petty money squabble when your marriage is in trouble,
	 or a football game when there's rioting in the street!

	 it's just another movie.....  another song and dance.....
	 another poor sucker who never had a chance!
	 it's just another captain goin' down with his ship.....
	 it's just another jerk, taking pride in his work!

				       greetings from timbuck three!