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From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: holdouts
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:32:15 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University

dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:

> My question is, why don't the owners just refuse to give in?  As long
> as they have the draft (illegal as it is, most likely), a player can't
> go anywhere else for a year.  So if the owners just say, ok, you sign
> or forget it, the player would sign, more often than not.  Otherwise
> the player is sacrificing 1 million or more (1st rounders) for the year,
> and will certainly be drafted lower the next year.  So they will lose
> even more money because of the contract offer in a lower draft slot.
> Given the few years the average player plays, they can't afford to sit
> out and forfeit one year.

   The owners probably don't do this because it isn't in their best interests. 
If they make a star player sit out a year, he might lose ground on his
competition just from sitting out.  Thus, the team as a whole suffers from his
absence, and then suffers again because he isn't as good the next year as he
might have been.  If you force as many players as typically hold out to sit
out, you can see the magnitude of the problem the teams would face.
   Since agents' salaries are a percentage of player salaries, the agents
wouldn't want to deal with a team that might make their players sit out -- less
money for them.  The players wouldn't want to sit out, losing experience and
money, and thus won't move to the other team through free agency or Plan B
wooing because they run the risk of sitting out once their contract expires.
   Rookies drafted by the team would probably gamble that they could pick up
skills and experience later on from other teams, so they'd ask for an
outrageous sum of money, be denied, sit out a year, and then go to another team
so they could be certain of their job.
   So an owner who let players sit out as a matter of routine would end up with
a team full of players bad enough that they'd play for any price.  A losing
team doesn't make much money, so the owner would be wise not to force lots of
people to sit out a year.  You make great teams by letting your wallet flow.


Max
From: max@ocf.berkeley.edu (Fude Max Chuang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Other 49er stuff (was Re: Robbie Keen)
Date: 21 Aug 1992 16:34:53 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <17289mINNgs8@agate.berkeley.edu> rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.021551.443@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>>Several far-flung 49er fans had asked about Robbie Keen's status this year.
>>The 49ers had been looking at him to help with their woeful kicking game.
>>Unfortunately, he was released on Tuesday. I remember him being an
>>excellent kicker at Bezerkley (which irritated me no end, being a
>>Stanford man myself), so I was surprised that he didn't catch on with the
>
>Yeah, he had at least two clutch field goals last year for Cal. I was

Actually, I think you have your kickers mixed up.  Last year Cal's kicker
was Doug Brien, who hit two game winners in consecutive weeks against
Arizona and UCLA ;  Keen was at Cal during the 1990 season, and had
an off year, missing a 41 (?) yarder against U$C that would have won the
game.  His off year dropped him from potentially the highest draft
status for a kicker/punter since Ray Guy.
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Spreads: Pre-Season Week 4... (Wed.)
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:11:10 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
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Here are the spreads for this week's pre-season games...

Home teams in CAPS...

Denver		40.5		Washington	2.5
DALLAS		4		L.A. RADERS	37

NEW York Giants	2.5		Pittsburgh	36.5
NEW YORK JETS	33		CHICAGO		6

Green Bay	35.5 		New England	38.5
L.A. RAMS	3.5		DETROIT		8

Houston		37.5		Tampa Bay	41
NEW ORLEANS	3.5		MIAMI		6.5

Buffalo		36.5		Phoenix		35
KANSAS CITY	3.5		SEATTLE		3

San Fran..	3.5		Philadelphia	41
SAN DIEGO	35.5		ATLANTA		3

Indianapolis	37		Minnesota	34.5
CINCINNATI	6		CLEVELAND	3

D Man...
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:55:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.144740.25428@das.harvard.edu> vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>In article <MeWkHBW00WDKM8rnFe@andrew.cmu.edu>, Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>|> >
>|> be encouraged and was part of the home field advantage.  What do you guys
>|> think the worst is?
>|> >
>|> 
>|> personally, I think the "immediate spike" to stop the clock is a shitty
>|> rule. Sure you lose a down but so what!? teams in the past have managed
>|> to make the play, there's no reason why teams nowadays should get that
>|> added bonus...
>|> 
>
>It's NOT a bonus. Actually, it's a penalty. The "spike" is ruled as
>"intentional grounding", and a yardage penalty (5 I think) is assessed.
>It`s actually a concession to stop the clock. That way, if the QB needs 
>a huddle to get his line in gear, he doesn't run the clock while doing it.
>

This is not a penalty.  The "spike" is a replacement for what used to be the
intentional incompletion to the sideline.

(other stuff deleted)

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From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ty Detmer and other Heisman winners
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:52:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92232.105231ENVIRON
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <Aug19.162521.27235@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
bokenko@CS.ColoState.EDU (jeffrey scot bokenko) says:
>
>I would like a list of Heisman trophy winners and the teams they play on.
>Only active players would be nice.  All I can think of is the following:
>
>     Desmond Howard      Washington  (??????)
>     Hershel Walker      Philadelphia
>     Marcus Allen        Raiders
>     Ron Brown           Raiders
>     Ty Detmer           ????????
>
     Isn't Andre Ware getting some time in with Detroit nowadays?

Brett
From: etxsons@exu.ericsson.se (Stefan Johansson U/DEG,T-TD,6703)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Terminology question
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: etxsons@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 1709@news.stolaf.edu, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
> In article <vamplew.714190846@probitas> vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew) writes:
> >I know this is a pretty stupid question, but I've never been able
> >to get a decent answer to this. Why does the fullback stand in
> >front of the halfback? (and I don't want 100 messages saying "So
> >he can block for the halfback").
> >
> >What I mean is that the name seems confusing. It would make more sense
> >to have the quarterback, then the halfback and then the fullback, right?
> >
> >I know that halfbacks tend to be called tailbacks now, which lessens 
> >the problem, but it still seems odd. Back in the dim dark mists of the
> >past, was the fullback ever the guy furthest back from the line of 
> >scrimmage? If so, when did this change?
> >
> >Yours in confusion
> >
> >Peter Vamplew
> >
> >Bengals fanatic and holder of the world record for greatest distance
> >covered through the air after being blocked (estimated at five yards
> >backwards with a maximum elevation of around 6 feet).
> 
> This is just a dumb guess, and it really depends on who the fullback is and who
> the halfback is, but they probably call a halfback a halfback because he is
> half the size of a fullback...
> 
> This is of course true only if Iron Head Heyward is the fullback, and Dave  
> Meggett or Darrin Nelson is the halfback...
> 
> Joel Alvstad
> St. Olaf College
> Northfield, MN
> alvstad@stolaf.edu
> 
> I bleed purple.


And who would you like to play quarterback???
He must be a quarter the size of Iron Head Heyward if your guess should be valid.

/Ultimate Swede 
 
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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Montana news
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 18:56:22 GMT

Joe Montana's two-week rest period is up on Monday, and he was scheduled
to start throwing again on Monday. Now the report from the team doctors
is that "Montana's sore arm needs at least two more weeks of absolute
rest" (quoting the Sacramento Bee), unless "something miraculous happens"
(quoting Carmen Policy). The tendon itself which was operated on last
year is OK, but the muscles on both sides of the tendon are extremely
inflamed. So now it's unlikely that he will be ready for the season 
opener on 6 Sep. Sigh...looks like we're getting yanked around again
just like last year.

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Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Redskins impressions (was Re: Niners tip Deadskins!)
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:47:31 GMT
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

>Desmond Howard?  I think the practice date for starting the regular season
>opener in Dallas has passed.  A rookie with an attitude and no practice is
>not going to instantly get a slot on a SB champion team, even if he did win
>the Heisman.  He'll probably get traded for a second-round draft pick or
>something.

Yeah, right.  As the fourth overall pick, Howard has made the team.  He just 
has to sign a contract (which may happen tomorrow).

>
>Lachey and Green will be missed.  Either one might come back or simply
>retire.  They're really too old to trade.
>

What planet are you from?  Lachey has several good years left in him.
He's not even 30 yet.  Green is 32, but most teams would slaver over the
"best CB in the League."   Anyway, I believe both will eventually sign.
They're trying to set themselves up for life, and you don't do that by
sitting out an entire year.

					me
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: killer@niksula.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1992Aug13.233141.21988@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>
	<1045@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:43:37 GMT

In article <1045@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons) writes:

   Go figure. Now you can get 15 yards for an "illegal coin-toss formation."

Actually, it is a "delay of game" penalty.  And it has been in effect
in the NCAA for years (at least the 15 yard part).
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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bears news and notes
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:26:52 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

stailey@snoopy.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey) writes:

>(Christopher P. Riff) writes:

> Misinformation abounds...

>*The following is taken from this weeks issue of the Bear Report.

>*Chris Zorich took karate leasons in the off-season to improve his
>*quickness and has also bulked up to 180lbs.  Bear coaches have been
>*impressed with Zorich so far this training camp.

> I believe that is supposed to be 280lbs.

Sorry, this was a typing error.

>*Shaun Gayle suffered a fractured arthiritic bone spur in his right hip.
>*He is expected to be out 3-5 weeks, and could be back in time for the
>*season opener Sept. 6. 

> He was back practicing this past week.
> 

This is good news to me.  Even during the Monday night game, the 
announcers gave the impression that Gayle was out for a little 
while.

>*After Monday's 34-31 loss to New Orleans, it's back to Plattevill 
>*through August 13.

> No, the broke camp at Platteville last Saturday. The will spend
> the rest of the season back at Halas Hall in Lake Forest.
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From: George.Harris@bbs.oit.unc.edu (George Harris)
Subject: Re: Head Coaches
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:05:45 GMT

In article <DMERCER.92Aug14132228@ap1seq.oracle.com> dmercer@oracle.com (David B. Mercer) writes:
>In article <0095F0A7.07CD7DC0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>Hi there
>>If anyone knows the names of the head coaches of
>>the following teams please post/email.
>
>>New England Patriots
>
>Dick Macpherson, bonehead.  The best coach in the NFL.

	If he's the best coach in the NFL, why did you call him a bonehead?

>---DBM
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Redskins impressions (was Re: Niners tip Deadskins!)
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:03:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.145307.23167@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>
>>Any further news on ending Lachey's holdout?  The Skins could sure use
>>him!
>
>Lachey and Green will be missed.  Either one might come back or simply
>retire.  They're really too old to trade.
>
This is silly.  Lachey is still in his 20s!  Green is getting up there
for a football player, but he is still tradeable.  Look at Ronnie
Lott.  Many teams will remember that one.....you need a couple of good
years out of a great back while you're building the rest of your
defense...I think there are several coaches and GMs that would like to
get their hands on Green.  I don't see him getting traded, though.  If
the negotiations don't go well (Lachey is the hot priority now), then
Cooke will let him sit out a year, but I'd be surprised by a trade.
Of course, I have been before ;-)

schalene
From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:06:48 GMT
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

>are evil. Along these same lines, I think the helment radio system
>they experimented with is a lousy idea. 

I think it's a *great* idea.  Let the game be decided by the sportsmen on the 
field, not a bunch of drunken loudmouths in the stands.  Heck, as a 
Redskin fan, on occasion i *am* one of those loudmouths at RFK, but I
have to admit the radio helmets are a fair solution to
crowd noise.  We can yell as loud as we want, and they can play.

					me
From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ty Detmer and other Heisman winners
Keywords: n
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:53:20 GMT
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

> 
>How about... 
>      Barry Sanders       Detroit 
>      Andre Ware          Detroit 
>      Vinnie Tesaverrde   Tampa Bay
>      Doug Flutie         Toronto Argos...(CFL)
>      George Rodgers      Washington?????
>      Mike Rozier 	  Atlanta??????
>       

The interesting thing about this list is how many Heisman winners 
failed to live up to expectations in the NFL: Ware, Testaverde, Flutie, 
and Rozier.

Rogers hasn't played with the Redskins for years.  We had him for the
last 3 years of his career.  I believe he did his best running with
the New Orleans Saints.

					me
From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bears rumors...
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:24:10 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

> = wwr writes:

>	Neal Anderson & Dickhead are so pissed at each other the Bears are
>putting Neal up on the trading block (might as well, nobody's going to be able
>to do, too much running behind that OL).

Sorry, I know nothing about the rumor.

I've heard a quote from Ditka on Anderson, though; and having watched most
of the Bear games last year, I agree.  Here it is, paraphrased:

  He brought it on himself.  I don't mind a guy who tries to play with
  pain, but don't snow me.  I'd sit him down last year, he'd beg to get
  in and I'd relent, then he'd play subpar.  I admire persistence, but
  don't lie to me.

>	Perry to Phillie for Barnett...

Who would want Perry?  The guy's got no work ethic, and no waist, either.

 

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From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: POOL - Separate Newsgroup?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:57:30 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Here is my thoughts:  I know people on this group might not care about this
pool,  but there is many things that I have to sift through until I find
something interesting.  That's life on the net.  I say keep the pool on the
net.  I think moving this to a mailing list would be too much extra work for
Dave.  I do not know how easy (hard) it is to create a new newsgroup.  If it is
relatively painless, then that should be the way to go.

Bill Baker

two comments:
1) Great work Dave!

2) I would appreciate a clarification on the stats generated.  I don't
understand half of them!!
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Irvin/Dolphins-cowboys
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:45:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <0NmDPB2w164w@jwt.UUCP>, bbs-jazzyjay@jwt.UUCP (Jason Giddens) writes
:
>Hey.. do any of you know why Michael Irvin didn't dress out for the
>Dolphins/Cowboys game?  i was there and he didnt play a single down.. nor
>did he enter the field.. just wondering..
>
>
> bbs-jazzyjay@jwt.uucp
>
    As far as I know, Irvin is still holding out. So we will not see him
    untill he reachs common grounds with the Cowboys. By the way, does anyone
    know how close Irvin is to signing?

    Malik....
From: langrock@rice.edu (David Jeffrey Langrock)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Anyone following the Bucs camp?
Date: 14 Aug 1992 20:46:48 GMT
Reply-To: langrock@rice.edu (David Jeffrey Langrock)
Organization: Rice University
Originator: langrock@letaba.cs.rice.edu


I am interested in information about the Buccanneers 6th round draft pick
LB James Malone.  Does anyone know about his progress (or lack thereof) or
if he has been cut yet?

Thanks,
David
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From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: Niners tip Deadskins!
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:28:23 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Aug17.144637.10598@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>In article <=98m#v+.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>
>>SF beat Washington this AM 17-15 on a 48-yard FG by Mike Cofer with
>>no time left.  I realize that it was a meaningless game, but it
>>sure felt good to see the Niners come out on the winning end
>>of a final-second FG for a change.
>>
>
>Geez, was Cofer just a little TOO excited when he made that kick?  I mean, I
>can understand being happy but it was a preseason game, not the Super Bowl.
>
>Oh well.
>-- 


Not really, when you realize that the fans feel he has blown more critical
field goals in the last year or so, than he has made. With the pressure on
him, it probably felt like he made the field goal that won the Super Bowl.
I can understand how he felt & hope that he starts making them regularly
so they become old hat again.

When I was watching, I fully expected him to miss!


Tom Wolf - a guy who can't believe Cofer made a last minute field goal!


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From: kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes)
Subject: Re: Bears news and notes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:20:56 GMT

From article <1992Aug12.150428.7909@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by (Christopher P. Riff):
> 
> After Monday's 34-31 loss to New Orleans, it's back to Plattevill 
> through August 13.

Outdated information.  That was the original plan but the Bears decided
to stay in Chicago (Lake Forest) for 2-a-day practices before heading
for Phoenix.

Kit Kimes
AT&T Bell Labs (under contract to NCR)
Naperville, IL
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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BRUCE SMITH update
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:31:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes...

[A well-intended but blank page.]

I think what Tim wanted to say is that Bruce went to see Dr. Steadman in
Colorado today (Thursday) and the results of that visit won't be known
until tomorrow.

After watching Bruce work out at camp, I get the impression he is going
to be all right.


Doug

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From: 343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (William Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Terminology question
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:44:32 GMT
 <1992Aug19.160918.12741@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Central Michigan University

In article <1992Aug19.160918.12741@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu
(nod sivad) says:
>
>>
>>What I mean is that the name seems confusing. It would make more sense
>>to have the quarterback, then the halfback and then the fullback, right?
>>
>
>In the original "T" formation, and I presume the single wing and other
>precursors, it was logically done as you descibe above: quarter, half, full.
>Of course, no one (PRO) uses 3 running backs anymore.  One half
>back is usually a flanker and the other is often an H-back, leaving only
>one pure running back.
>
    This brings an interesting question.  WHY don't some pro team use a
wishbone type of offense.  Teams like San Fran or Philadelphia would be
perfect for this type of offense.  A good scrambling quarterback,  and
3 running backs.  You wouldn't even need 3 huge name backs,  just 3
'little better than average' (ambigious as hell I know!) backs.  It could
work.  It does for some college teams.  Any other opinions??