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From: knude@daimi.aau.dk (Per Knudsgaard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens 3 and stuff
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:00:23 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892) writes:

>In article <BtnAAs.6s9@acsu.buffalo.edu> v076r95v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Nature Boy) writes:
>>In article <SSURHODE.92Aug26103154@suma1.susssys1.rdg.ac.uk>, ssurhode@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk (Paul Rhodes) writes...
>>>... 
>>>  c. How did the eggs get on the sulaco ? The queen detached herself
>>>     from the egg laying part of her at the end of Aliens. Also, the
>>>     queen was never left alone on the Sulaco.
>>
>>	No one knows how the eggs got on board which is why I thought that the
>>movie was SO STUPID!!  It made no sense.  Since no one could explain how the
>>eggs got onboard, there should have been no reason for the movie to have even
>>happened.  Without that stupid egg, they probably would have made it back to
>>Earth.  Sorry, I just really thought this movie was bad.
>>					PHOENIX
>>

>Maybe a facehugger got on board with the queen, and was missed.

   Maybe TWO f'huggers got on board with the queen, and was missed! There are two
aliens in the movie, a soldier and a queen. I can accept that the queen brought
them on board, but the one we see in the beginning is placed in the crew area,
not in the hanger. Can the eggs walk, or is it just a part of Ripley's dream?

   Somewhat stranger - IMHO - is that we have an EEV from a warship, that is not 
armed. It has a CAT-scanner, but not a single weapon!

   Something that puzzled me though, was Bishop II human or android? My initial
thought was human - he looked more human this time - but when he was clubbed by 85,
I think his ear was hanging "loose" and I could not see any blood. Did I imagine
things? Did my eyes fool me?

   Personally I found it fairly good. On a scale from 0-10, I would give it 7+.
Despite some continuity problems, I enjoyed myself throughout. On the negative side, 
the script had much more potential, and many interesting characters was left looking 
like cardboard cutouts.

   Per Knudsgaard, knude@daimi.aau.dk

   BTW. When I saw Alien^3 friday, they showed an intro - or whatever they are called
in english - for a movie called "Unlawfull Entry". If you translate the danish 
translation back into english it would be "Wild lust". Kind of makes you wonder 
the danish translator had on his mind....
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME
Keywords: author=Elkins
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:03:39 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1992Sep1.134701.27806@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Sarah_M._Elkins.Wbst139@xerox.com writes:
>			 TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME
>		       A film review by Sarah M. Elkins
>Cinematography/FX:
>How do they make Douglass firs look frightening?

Music.

>Analysis:  What *is* it with the creamed corn? 

Hum, delicious.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Second Favorite email message: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Showtime
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:40:39 GMT

In article <BD.92Aug26124907@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) write:
>
>>I find that this is not the question being asked of *me* when this happenes.
>>It is gernerally a case of someone being too lazy to look at THE TWO FOOT 
>>CLOCK HANGING OVER MY HEAD.  I'm not kidding...the clock in our box office
>>is twenty six inches across, but people still ask me what time is is. 
>
>If you take a job working with the public, it's childish to
>bitch about working with the public.
>
>>I have taken to making a point of turning completely in place and checking
>>the clock I bought for the express purpose of being HUGE AND NOTICABLE.
>
>Oh, good.  Another rude person in a "service" industry.  Ecomists claim
>that the U.S. economy is changing from a manufacturing economy to a 
>service economy.  I hope they're wrong 'cause most service here sucks.

Don't you see?  People that work in movie theaters are very intelligent
and never make any mistakes.  So it's logical that they would take
jobs taking tickets to allow them the opportunity of fixing the
behavior of those stupid customers who will then realize that not
looking in their office for a clock or vocalizing their question
accidentally is the significant crime that it is.  This will make
them appreciative of the ticket person and more apt to seek out that
establishment to patronize in the future.

I'll bet one of them stole the clock.  You know, to clean it up
and return it to return the favor.

GMS
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey)
Subject: Re: Aliens 3 and stuff
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:43:21 GMT

In article <gyq9PB14w165w@jybox.jyu.fi> otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
><U38956@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>> The thing that got me the most is that in the future year of 2470 or whatever
>> year it was, we have all this high technology--so high we can travel through
>> the voids of space and hypersleep, etc--yet we are still SO DUMB that
>> we still where glasses (you'd think someone could've found a REAL corrective
>> measure for this age-old problem) AND we still use the friggin' english
>> system of measurement rather than SI!  (At the end, they say that they would
>> pour so many TONS of liquid metal on the alien).
>
>Ha!  The "ton" is 1000kg=1Mg in SI countries.  Makes perfect sense, is even
>pretty close to the peculiar US usage of "ton".
>
>PS. What if these ex-convicts couldn't afford / didn't have the necessary
>medical facilities even this simple corrective surgery ?
>

	Well, the "ton" question has been pretty much answered.  As for the
	glasses, well the respondent was also made a pretty good guess.  In
	the Alien 3 novelization, it is claimed that convicts such as
	Dillon, being a prisoner would not be able to acquire or afford
	contact lenses, not to mention transplants (implants?).  And it is
	true that the medical facilities and the doctor present could
	not perform a surgical eye procedure.



	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/   	Han:  "I knew you were going to say
	_/     _/  _/       _/     _/          that, old fool."
	_/     _/  _/       _/              
	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/   _/            
	_/   _/    _/       _/          Ben:  "Who's more foolish, the fool
	_/    _/   _/       _/     _/          or the fool who follows him?"
	_/     _/  _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/      
	Robert E. Casey  (mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu)
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: War Movies
Summary: The Bridge
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:46:26 GMT
Organization: Boston University

Anyone else remember the German film "The Bridge" ca. 1967? It was about a
doomed (pretty much) squad of Hitler Youth/Home Guard troops defending a
bridge in the last months of WWII. B/W, not bad, as I recall.

Also from the same period, "The Victors." Remember the scene with the
half-mad one-eyed British officer with the Sten gun?

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky         abw@bucrsb.bu.edu      Chresmology
Boston University      arc9arn@buacca.bu.edu   (cheap rates)
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From: aknowles@expert.expert.com (Anne Knowles)
Subject: Re: Most Maddening Movie
Organization: Computer Publishing Group
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:57:29 GMT

JFK, or almost anything by the much overrated Oliver Stone.
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:25:16 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:
# In article <1992Aug25.194911.24208@midway.uchicago.edu>, gre2@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
# 
# >	The Third Man: The closing shot.
# 
# Actually, this movie may have 100 great shots with those crazy camera 
# angles combined and that zither constantly in the background, but my 
# favorite is when Harry Lime (what a great name!) steps out of the shadows 
# for the first time!

He doesn't step out. He's illuminated. But, you're right, a great moment.

John (movie buff)
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From: kaufman@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:28:46 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.

One of the following films:

Hercules (1984, Lou Ferrigno)
Transylvania 6-5000


==Ken
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope)
Subject: Re: Upcoming movies (Malcolm X)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Aug 1992 15:34 EDT  

In article <1992Aug27.134626.28122@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich) writes...
> 
>Malcolm X is an A-hole.

You know that old addage, IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!

If your gonna make a statement like this, back it up with some FACT, REASON,
PROOF. Until you do, YOUR THE A-HOLE.
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (minor spoilers)
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:27:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University






Not-All-That-Major-Spoiler Alert
[My discussion refers to a Sarah Palmer vision that is shown in the TV series,
 but I want to insulate the Sergeant Schultz-types ("I See NOTHINK!") who HATE
 spoilers of any kind.]




The intrepid can page down....






iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott) writes:
>What is the symbolism of the White Horse that Mrs. Palmer sees in her visions?

My $0.02:

Sarah had a vision of a white horse (i.e. a horse with white hair). Some
horses carry people on their backs. Leland, who is "carrying" BOB, had his hair
go white later in the Twin Peaks chronology.

Whaddya think?

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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: Great Voices
Summary: Other voices
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:02:20 GMT


Great Voices in movies - odd topic since so often no one gets to
talk in movies.

My choices -

Olivier

Douglas Rain - voice of "HAL" - I mean, voice only!  Made my 
               skin crawl ("I think we both know what the problem
               is Dave.")

Cyril Cusak - especially in Farenheit 451 while he's explaining
              why the books have to be burned.  A very sardonic
              performance.

Kathleen Turner - that husky, throaty voice.


Spencer Tracy - See Keeper of the Flame to see what I mean.




marc colten
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Citizen Kane Question (was Re: Best shots wanted)
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:13:27 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin) writes:

> In article <1992Aug25.033137.176068@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
> ->
> ->	I think alot of us are interested in b/w classics... and there
> ->alot of those!
> -> 
> ->	I think the snowy "Rose-bud" shot in Citizen Kane...is the
> ->epitome of them all.
>  
> 	I always wondered about this scene.  The nurse is seen coming
> in the room through the reflection of the broken glass, and this is
> after Kane says Rosebud.  Who was there to hear his last words?

The cameraman.  :-)



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From: slowther@ducvax.auburn.edu (Sam Lowther)
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:50:00 GMT

In article <urf.714728061@sw2001>, urf@icl.se (Urban F) writes...

>Is is too soon to nominate Friday as a classic? I also think Glory Road
>could be made into a good movie. 

A long time ago, at least 10 years, I read one of those space-filler blurbs
you find in the entertainment section, that announced filming was to begin
on "Glory Road" in the next few weeks.  That was the good news.  The bad
news was that the stars were to be Gary Busey, Mary Crosby and James Mason.
Never heard anything more about it, so the financing probably fell through.

It's probably just as well.  With those actors I shudder to think what the
result would have been.  (OK, maybe Mary Crosby in the nude beach scene 
would have worked...but Gary Busey with a sword?)

--Sam

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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:18:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Btww7A.n3J
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:


> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
> embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
> up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
> who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
> your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)

"Cool World."  'Nuff said.



                                      --Steve "Keep that 'Magic Spike' outta
                                        my face!" Stelter
                                        sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:44:47 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

DR.STRANGELOVE!
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Jongwoo Park                                              jwp@panix.com
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:51:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Godfather III

I saw this when if had just come out, and I could tell the whole
audience was embarassed - especially at the end with Michael
Corleone sitting in that chair in the yard.  I couldn't stop myself
from blurting out _Where's Ruth Buzzy?_  The whole audience burst
out laughing with relief.


Ron
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Least women in movie!
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:56:34 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:
>Which movie has the least women in its cast?

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but Lawrence of Arabia had
NO female speaking roles!

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: 00bjhoyt@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Star Wars
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:35:12 GMT

Anybody Have any new news concerning the new Star Wars movies that are 
in the works?


Brad Hoyt
From: gillian@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Gillian Ritchie; PhD)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Truly Madly Deeply
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:07:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <BtLIxy.GIt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup) writes:

>Just rented Truly Madly Deeply last night and really liked it.  Would be
>interested in comments from others who have seen it. thanks.

This is one of my all time favourite films.  What really makes
it for me is Juliet Stephenson's portrayal of Nina...it leaves
me emotionally drained every time, especially the scene in her
psychiatrists office. I was fortunate enough to see both Juliet
Stephenson and Bill Paterson (who played Sandy) in Death and
the Maiden in the West End here in London and Juliet gave
another truly memorable performance.  The film was made for
television and was shown in a series called Screen Two on BBC 2
at the beginning of March.  It was released in the cinema
briefly before this but didn't get much critical acclaim. It
was referred to as "A North London version of Ghost".  I
enjoyed it it a lot more than I enjoyed Ghost which was a
little too "sugary sweet" for my liking.  Juliet Stephenson
really brought over Nina's fears of life having passed her by
and her agony over wanting to have Jamie back yet wanting to
live.  Alan Rickman was tremendous as Jamie (I thought)
managing to convey an air of incredible sadness during even the
most exuberent of scenes.  I thought all the supporting roles
were played very well Titus, Mira (sp?), George, Mark etc.
Probably the fact that the film was set and filmed in an area
very near where I live increased my enjoyment of the film too.

As a bit of a sidetrack, the film was written and directed by
Anthony Minghella (sp?) and he actually wrote it for Juliet
Stephenson, so seemingly there's a good deal of her own
character mixed up in there.  Juliet Stephenson won the Evening
Standard award for Best Actress for her role in the film and
Alan Rickman won Best Actor for his roles in this, Robin Hood
and Close My Eyes (a fantastic film)

Basically, I enjoyed the film tremendously. It made me laugh,
it made me cry (a lot) but it always leaves me with a really
optimistic feeling even though I feel like I've been put
through a wringer at the end! I think I'm probably just over
emotional!

Gill

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Gill Ritchie
HCI Lab, Dept of Computer Science,
Queen Mary and Westfield College, University of London,
Mile End Road, London, E1 4NS
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:16:48 GMT

_Freejack_, with Mick "I have a day job" Jagger.

_Star Trek V: The Ego Trip_, with Will "Yes, this is my real hair, and I do
scale rock faces barehanded" Shattner.

_Backtrack_.  I had great hope for this film, considering the cast:
	Jodie Foster, whom I worship.
	Denis Hopper
	John Tutturo
	a few other famous people I don't remember, including Al
	 from Quantum Leap.

Lots of acting talent wasted in arguably the lamest screenplay on earth.
Luckily, I saw this at home, on tape.

--
Sweet Thames, run softly till I end my song
Sweet Thames, run softly, for I speak not loud or long.
			-- T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland"
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From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:19:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <urf.714728061@sw2001> urf@icl.se (Urban F) writes:

>>Any other science fiction classics you'd like to see transported to
>>the screen, and think they could be done well?

>Is is too soon to nominate Friday as a classic? I also think Glory Road
>could be made into a good movie. Also The Forever War and All My Sins
>Remembered.

I would rather not see "The Forever War". I didn't like the book at all, sort
of like a black-and-white leftist answer to Heinlein's "Starship Troopers". 
Now a REAL version of "Starship Troopers" is another story.

Please do not followup with flames about TFW, this is only my opinion.

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From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:25:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Just thought of another one... "People Under the Stairs" has to be one of the
dumbest movies I've ever seen.  Sheesh!

Geoff

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: Pet Sematary II
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:01:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.121446.29437@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>I was driving in morning traffic yesterday, when I happened to see a bus
>with a poster on its side advertising "Pet Sematary II." 

This film even looks like trash from the commercials and
previews!  I'm sure we will see an article or two about how
Steven King wants everyone to know that he has nothing to do
with this movie... at the same time he is raking in the dough
from the royalties and probably inking similar deals for other
movies.  No offense Stephen, but if you don't like the way
they treat you and hack your work, don't give it to them in
the first place... don't whin about it to your fans.

AND, if ABC or whoever is doing The Stand hacks this piece, I
will personally burn my original paperback which said to watch
out for the up-coming movie (some ten or so years ago!)... OK,
so I won't go that far.  I *won't* be happy though!

-- 
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