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From: hmeedin@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: scholarship:a joke (now malaysian men)
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:19:58 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University


Let me contribute my bit to the scholarship debate. In 1980, six of us 
got aggs of 11,11, 12, 10, 9, 9 in the SPM exam. We were excited about
the prospect of  going overseas on a govt. scholarship. We waited and
waited but no letter came while some of our friends with
aggs of 17 and 22 got to go. We applied and all six of us were
rejected!!!!!!

Frustration set in..and we thought of reasons,;
1. maybe our skin color was not dark enough
2. maybe our eyes were not big enough
3. maybe we did not wear the right clothes
4. maybe it was because none of us got an A1 or A2 in
   malay

We tjought of seeing the officials again maybe with the correct
clothes and maybe more eye shadow to make our eyes bigger, etc..etc
all this decided by the frustrated six over satay at Bangsar
satay was good though)

How DARE THE GOVERNMENT deny six MALAYS SCHOLARSHIPS TO GO 
OVERSEAS???? NO GOOD REASON WAS GIVEN!!! AT LEAST MY
CHINESE AND INDIAN BROTHERS ANS SISTERS THINK THEY KNOW WHY:
BECAUSE THEY ARE NON-BUMIS AS SO MANY OF YOU ARE POINTING OUT

ALAS, BUT WE, WITH MALAY SKIN AND EYES, BUMIS, HAVE NO
ANSWER

FOUR OF US ARE HERE SPENDING OUR PARENTS' MONEY, ONE IS DOING THE 
SAME IN UK AND ONE IS IN USM....

LIVE AND LEARN

i SUGGEST WE DEVELOP ANOTHER TOPIC...A LOT, ANY MALAYSIAN LADIES ON
THE NETWORK??

i KNOW ABOUT 10 MARRIED COUPLES HERE, MALAYSIAN WOMEN OF ALL
RACES MARRIED TO AMERICAN MEN

aLL SAID THE REASON THEY MARRIED AMERICAN MEN IS BECAUSE THE 
MALAYSIAN MEN AVAILABLE HERE ARE TOO EGOISTIC, CONSERVATIve WHILE  
american men encourage them to challenge themselves more
intellectually, and they have given more intellectual, emotional and 
psychological freedom by american men than malaysians  

malaysian ladies of all races and color, what do you think???
From: tenka@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Andy Tenka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Badminton - US Open
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:35:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <2AC35840.28953@news.service.uci.edu> cheu@neptune.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu) writes:

This reminds me.  Is badminton now an official olympic sport?
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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Muslims converting to other religions in England!
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:35:20 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan) writes:
: be eligible to hold scholarships given to bumis only.  The question is, I 
: thought that Bumiputera status is actually refering to the "RACE" and not

If you are a  Malaysian, You should know you the Malaysian constitution which
defines a Malay as a muslim with "Malay culture". I do not think there is 
any mention of religion.

: the religion.  Example, there are a lot of Kadazans in Sabah/Sarawak (I'm
: not sure cos from the west) who are Christians but still considered to be
: bumiputeras.  It shouldn't matter what religion you to be classified under
East Malaysia is a special case in the constitution.


--
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Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
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From: fellow@cs.utexas.edu (Heng Wei Osbert Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Date: 26 Sep 1992 11:59:33 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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First, a Malaysian asked a hypothetical question "how can Singaporean defence themselves if Malaysia were
to cut off their water supply", then a second Malaysian speculated "they will take a part of Johor", and
the third one jumped in " You Singaporean are sooooo Kia-Su". The forth, unforturnately, a Singaporean,
got lured and confused, started screaming murder on the net. While the rest of the world, set around and
smiled.


-Osbert Tan


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From: chansze@ecf.toronto.edu (CHAN Sze Keong)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:46:08 GMT

 this is only a test. my last post did
 not get thru for some reason :-(
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Civil Eng. in U.M. (RE. Elect. Eng. in U.M.)
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:40:00 GMT

The article posted by Mr. T.T. Hooi regarding Electrical Eng.
course actually applies to other disciplines as well. An ex-Prof.
of mine (Civil Dept.) told me some 4 years ago that his class has
about 30 non- Bumi students all with 4 or 5 A's , while the other half
of the class made up of Bumi  has very poor results. He had great 
difficulties teaching the class. (By the way the Prof. is an Indian)
The follwing year I met the Prof. again . This time he put up his
house in Sea Park for sale. The reason ? He contract was not renewed
(after lecturing for some 25 years there !) because he failed 27 Bumi
students. !! I am not saying that Bumi students are all lousy but that
the good Bumi students have all gone to overseas (almost all if
not all with gov't scholarships). The better to do non-Bumi may be
able to squeeze their income to send their children oversea, but the  
poorer ones will just have to fight it out in local Uni. Talking
about scholarships ? huh what a joke ! How many non-bumi have
that previlege ? not reading newspaper advertisements ? That is
even a greater joke !! The number of scholarships for non-bumi are 
extremely limited if any !! More often than not it's through some
'connections' that the non-bumi get any scholarships !!  Please 
check out your facts if anyone wants to flame me !!

P/s all my lecturers (except one)  in U.M. have long left , either
to Singapore or to private sectors.
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: E-mail In NUS/NTU
Date: 4 Oct 92 03:45:29 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Oct4.021410.12115@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, hykok@nyx.cs.du.edu (HY KOK) writes:
> ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> 
>>	Yes.  In NTU at least.  And they also get news.  Both VMS style and rn
>>style.  However, not many undergrads (read: next to none) read sca.  Many in
>>the know read alt.binaries.pictures.erotica, alt.sex.*.* until suddenly the
>>comcen found out about it and cut all of it out....:) :)  
> 
>   Tough luck!  I know my university have remove all the ALT.* files, but 
> it is always some other sites where you might be able to access them.  You 
> just have to keep your eyes open.

	All the alt.* groups?  That sucks.  There's some good stuff in there
like alt.security and the alt.bbs.* groups and many others that are useful. 
There's even alt.supermodels where there is a discussion on/about supermodels
(hi, certain someone... :))  You should try to talk to your news administrator
about getting some of the alt.* newsgroups, instead of just blank censoring
them.

>   Anyway, people who don't read s.c.a. does not deserve to get access to those
> alt.binaries.pictures.***, right?
> 
	I am sure they wouldn't agree with you... :) :)  I must admit that
alt.binaries.pictures.fractals does put up quite a good show, don't you think??
:) :) :)  Wait, wait, I just reread your sentence again...  You mean all sca
readers read alt.binaries.pictures.*? :) :)  Seriously tho, you don't have to
be reading to get gif files, there are ftp sites all around (no, I don't know
of any R/X rated ones, only the normal ones, tho if you want to send a couple
of addresses to me, well I can't stop you.... :) :)) and then there's the
archie thing...
	Ciao.

-Tai
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: USA: E. Timor at "The Discovery Channel" - 5:00PM (EST)
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:34:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.183247.15855@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jb00@ns1.cc.lehigh.
du (JOSE ANTONIO BASTO) writes:
>The documentarie "COLD BLOOD - THE MASSACRE OF EAST TIMOR", from Yorkshi
e  TV
>(GB) is to be showed today for the first time in USA.
>
>If you have cable TV, get "The Discovery Channel" at 5:00 PM today (Satu
day)
>or 2:00 AM tomorrow (Sunday).
>
>This is a independent view of the struggle of East Timor people against 
is
>powerful neighbor Indonesia, that had cost 1/3 of its population (> 200 
00
>deaths) in 16 years of occupation.
>
>See with your own eyes the way the resistance lives in the jungle,
>the last words ofindependence fighters recorded (some of then had been s
oot
>at the 12 November massacre), the peaceful demonstration and the cruel
>violence of the Indonesian army on assassinating the East Timorese
>demonstrators.
>
>Jose' Basto
>-- 
>Jose' Barros BASTO; Address:11,Duh Dr Apt 222; BETHLEHEM, PA 18015-3732
>Phone :(215)758-1846; Office:(215)758-4640;  FAX:(215)758-4886   U.S.A.


 Yes i watched the program . It is an  emotional evoking oone.
 i even invited several friends so we can discuss it.
     The program i found very Fretelin (Organization for independence
timor)
 the reporter make no attemp to interview Indonesian side. sure
 i have read books of this matter here in U.S but it is just unfair
 to tell one sided stories.
     There is always three side of a story , my side , your side and 
 God knows Whose side. 
     From this first posting i will stated that i'm neither pro any side
 i'm just starting this discussion to get every body side. If you got your
 side of your story please post.

  I think the reporter are the one that got beat up during the East Timor
  Independence demonstration by East timor yout by Indonesian soldier.

      The last  news i got is that the Army commander who responsible
  for the latest  massacre got moved ( Indonesian Mutasi ).
 
   
 I Jose Basto some how has a ties with East Timor. I believe East timorean
 use Portugese name . If you can post your side of story that will 
be nice we all can compare notes and discuss .

 Thanks 
 Muskie
 Sofjan mustopoh
 UK07802@mik.uky.edu

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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Blackout in Singapore and West Malaysia
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:23:45 GMT

khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) writes:
: A short-circuit in the switch-gear?  Hmm, some heads gonna roll.  I
: wonder what caused the short circuit and why didn't the breakers
: disengage fast enough. Switch gear circuitries (sp?) are mostly simple
: but it's safety design is an art with lots of sensors and breakers in
: the right places.

Not against my old enemy the "lightning".

:  
: If the switch-gear could just short-circuit and cause a major fire,
: then it is time PUB review all it's switch-gears and upgrade. 
Any ideas of any that can also respond in 10pico second for 1000 million amps.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

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From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: RE: SINGAPORE LAWSE
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:33:00 GMT

In article <01q5RB3w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, v3keong@student.business.uwo.ca (Victor K writes...
>| Is it true that there is a law against wearing dirty underwear 
>| in your advanced country too?  Or for allowing your dick to hang 
>| on the wrong side of your zipper?
> 
>IMHO, that amounts to an insult!!!! You are mocking my country!!!! 
> 

Indeed I am  - a country which has laws like yours deserves to be mocked.

>> I have been to Singapore and I didn't think much of it at all - 
> 
>I think the Singaporeans on s.c.a. think likewise of you. 
>Thanx Osbert for helping out here.
> 

It's fine with me.

>     
>You can say all you want about the lack of democracy in 
>Singapore and all that. I don't care, because I am so used to 
>such remarks ever since I came to N.A. four years ago. 
>We are what we are, and our economic achievements speaks 
>volumes of the credibility of our polity. While I 
>do not think highly of certain legislations/social phenomenon 
>in the US, I refrain myself from taunting others with 
>irresponsible remarks like what you did.

What's irresponsible about giving a critical opinion?
Your country's economic achievements speak of nothing but its
economic achievments.  They say nothing about liberty, individual
freedom of expression, the right to express opinions critical of
the government and other fundamental human rights.

> 
>I hear THE GAP's got a sale of baggy pants on right now. 
>Better hurry before it's too late. :)   
> 
I live in England, where thankfully we do not have the gap.  Also I
have no intention of visiting Singapore again, so I probably won't be
needing them.

Laurence

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From: subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND)
Subject: Re: Let's cut the crap....
Summary: calm down, dude..
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.185626.24209@news.ysu.edu>, af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND) says:
> 
> >Hey pal,
> >
> >	That was a very delicious listing of M'sian food but unfortunately I'm
> >not there to enjoy it. You don't just have to talk about food!!!!
> >		Don't tell me you don't know anything else to talk about?
> >Let me give you a list of things that you can talk about if you don't have any.
> >
> >1 --> Malaysian economics (job employment, living style and cost)
> >2 --> Malaysian education system
> >3 --> Malaysian politics (current issues.. and not Mig29 or F16)
> >4 --> Country's latest development
> >5 --> Sports
> >6 --> and etc........
> >
> >So, lets be little bit more open minded here. I'm not against anybody. I just
> >didn't same articles to be posted hundred times and arguing each others 
> >capabilities of attacking one and another.
> 
> 
> Hey...whatever I talk about does not have to suit your apetite. We
> have an open newsgroup here and certainly don't need you to police it.

You're right ! It doesn't have to suit my apetite and I didn't ask you to do
so too.
Well, let's get one thing straight here my dear pal. First I'm not trying to 
be a police for this newsgroup and second if you want to share your ideas with
the newsgroup, make sure you post it on the newsgroup and I don't need a 
personal copy of that.


> You listed some very interesting topics above. If you're THAT 
> open-minded why not write an article yourself? If I feel like
> it, I'll contribute. I happen to like food and that is what
> I chose to talk about. Afterall, with your "open-mindedness",
> I'm sure you'd agree that FOOD IS ALSO PART OF CULTURE, no?
> 
> BTW: I've received a couple of emails from other people on
>      the topic of food. Anybody interested in recipes???
> 
>
Well, I'm glad some people are interested in your articles. Keep up with that.
 
> 
>>>>>> We don't need no police,       >>>>  NOT !!!!!!!!,
> ATAN
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >I hope to read more interesting articles from now on in this newsgroup.
> >
> >Geeva Subramaniam
> >University Computer Services
> >Bowling Green State University
> >
> >
> >
> >


From: leongaw@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Ak Wing Leong)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:00:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Malaysian PM visits Ireland
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean

So, did you meet him ?
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From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: Defense of S'pore; was about F16 & Mig29
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
	<1992Sep27.121400.18810@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.121400.18810@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
{stuff deleted}
>  In case of draught that may last 3 months, the reserve lake at McRichie
              ^^^^^^^
Really?  I didn't know that the liquid floating in MacRitchie Reservoir was
draught beer.  I'll keep this in mind when the next drought hits!!!  :-)

{other stuff deleted}

>It is just as excuse by these young Singaporeans to justify their hard
>national service in offensive operations in the jungle to secure their
>water source so that they can wash their cars, have shower baths, swimming
>pools and call these as basic necessities.

Perhaps.  Or perhaps it's just to discuss what the SAF is capable of.  I've
never been fond of my two and a half years of NS purgatory (thought it a
massive waste of time.)

>Maybe I should start another thread called:
>War: Malaysia vs Singapore

Hey, it's a free world.

>   I'm sure the military commands of both countries had known about
>all the possibilities, it is just these "hot blooded young Singaporeans",
>who had been left ignorant.

Most of us who can cogitate also come to the same conclusion and possibilities.
Sometimes, national fervour can be rather blinding.

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From: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malay songs.
Date: 6 Oct 1992 04:50:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND) says:

>In article <1992Oct5.025958.26317@news.ysu.edu>, af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan) writes:
>> >	I lost some of my cassettes in the process of moving couple of years
>> >ago. So, if anyone out there can do me this favor, I'll very much
>> >appreciated. I'll send you the cassettes and return postage or which ever
>> >way you prefer.
>> >	Thanks again.
>> 
>> Awww.....this would add up to audio piracy, no ???
>> 
>> ATAN
>> 
>Well, Mr. Tan, I guess I should have been more specific here aah?
>Those who follow the law strictly can ignore my mail. People who are
>interested in talking about music and doing me a favor can reply to me.
>
>
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>Geeva.
>
>
>

Tsk...tsk...touchy aren't you?

CL
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Defense of S'pore; was about F16 & Mig29
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:08:27 GMT


  " LATE BREAKING NEWS "
 Just receive  from Indonesian news agency "Antara"

    Malaysia and Indonesia has jointly starting the operation
 "Hantam saja " in invading Singapore.
    First sortie has flown over Singapore to deliver its ordinance
  it has been reported that most of the bomb fall on orchard road.
  Lucky Plaza and Mount Elizabeth hospital are in a state of destruction.
  Meanwhile Singapore prepare to counter attack. it has been  a hectic 
  day for reservist reporting back to their station. (Hope fully some still
  remember  their code name . Just imagine watching tv  and there it is
  "Rosegarden report to  Juong Depot " ) 

       Student of the three countries who studying abroad are taking 
  matter to their own hands by fighting on the street of L.A, San Diego,
  San Francisco, Portland oregon, Chicago,Dallas, Cleveland ohio,NY,
  Atlanta Georgia, Melbourne Aus, Sydney, Perth, etc.....
      Woon soon Lau,  Andy Tenka,  ATAN, Othman,Sofjan Mustopoh and any
  body  who response to posting Defense of Spore are drafted by their
  countries. since they know a little about anything in the war.

      Refugee from Singapore started sailling out from the island.
  it is not yet confirm about the Pirate on the sea.

  By this time China and Vietnam ( Ha ha ha ha ha  :) ) offer to be 
  middle man in negotiating a peace accord ( again ha ha ha ha );
  prince Norodom Sihanouk and Imelda marcos and ex Phillipines's president
  Madam Aquino are travelling to warring countries offering peace.


     By this time  Woon Soon Lau wake  up  sweat all over and realize
  this is only a "NIGHTMARE ON NETNEWS " 


   If you ever get down to this line you'll already hit your head and
laught.
      Lightened up guys and gal. this is only a partial conclusion 
   to our discussion.
   Any body offering more conclusion are welcome. 

   ***************************************************
   If you still don't get it his is a JOKE !!!! :) |) 

Sofjan mustopoh
UK07802@mik.uky.edu

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From: hykok@nyx.cs.du.edu (HY KOK)
Subject: Re: looking for friends in NTU
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 02:20:54 GMT

I'm looking for Mr. Ng Ken Liang at NTU studying Civil Engineering.  Anyone
know his whereabout, please write to hkok@cse.unl.edu.  Thanks.



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