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From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: TROJAN NEWS VOL.9 (USC/UW NOTES)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:44:21 GMT

In article <1afujtINN4sn@skat.usc.edu> valdis@skat.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
>
>  STUFF DELETED
>
>HUSKIES: Starting tailback Jay Barry will also be out this Saturday due to a
>         broken toe. Beno Bryant has also been bothered by a hamstring injury,
>         but will play. This will give most of the rushing burden to sophomore
>         Napoleon McCallum.
                   ^^^^^^^^
>FASTEST PLAYER??: A promoter who is working on promoting the Sunkist Track &
>                Field Invitational at the LA Sports Arena later this comming
>                spring, is working on getting some of college football's
>                fastest players which includes USC's Curtis Conway and Husky
>                Napoleon McCallum.
                          ^^^^^^^^
  
  CORRECTION:  That is Napoleon Kaufman (with one f).  The Huskies wouldn't
               mind having McCallum, because of his pro experience though!!
          :)

  THE WEATHER:  Never make the mistake of counting on the Seattle weather
                to cooperate.  It is very inconsistent up here.  I hope it
                rains and it rains hard.  Two years ago, it was 92 F and
                very humid for the USC game...

  NOTES:  A lot of people on the net have been making mistakes on how to 
          spell the single and plural of the word Husky, so here it is:
          - Single:  Husky
          - Plural:  Huskies

  Not Huskie, Huskys, or Huskey and Huskee!!

  Any questions?  :)

>
>
>Fight On, BEAT THE HUSKIES!!!

  Well, Valdis whatsheesname wins my "Woofer of the Week" award.

>Valdis Kalejs
>

GO HUSKIES, BEAT SC!!  (or F*CK SC as the crowd likes to chant)

-Baze



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@isolde.gfdi.fsu.edu (SCOTT)
Subject: No, I mean the Safety Dance
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: GFDI
Distribution: usa
Date:  6 Oct 1992 10:13 EST  

In article <BvovsA.1y9@ais.org>, ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes...
>In article <1992Oct5.220224.3269@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> I  wrotes:
>[bad, bad, bad FSU play deleted :)]
>>It's anyone's guess why Miami fans weren't doing the Safety Dance made
>>popular by Men
>>Without Hats back in the 80s.  Why doesn't that catch on?
>>

>We sure did plenty of it at Michigan Stadium when we hosted Houston.  
>Jimmy Klinger was manhandled by a Michigan defensive lineman at 
>about 1 foot out of the end zone.  The QB was tackled into the 
>end zone and the Michigan student section erupted into a chorus 
>of hands being clapped overhead.  Of course, the official called 
>that forward progress had been stopped (by a QB with his arm cocked?) 
>and disallowed the safety.  Regardless, I'm sure the Cougars were 
>pretty rattled by our continued clapping and screaming on the 
>next couple of plays when they had to snap the ball into the 
>end zone (btw, they were in the student's end of the stadium). 
>---
>Steve
> 
By "safety dance" I don't mean just signaling a safety.
I mean that you do the dance from the Men Without Hats
video.  It involves making an S with your arms, kind of 
like so:
               --	This is what you do when your
              | 0       gets a safety.  Now if the band
               \|       would just learn the tune, we'd
                |\      be set.  Of course FSU's band
               -+/      sucks, but that's another post.
                |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 16:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.202915.25303@athena.mit.edu> aviksroy@athena.mit.edu (Avik S. Roy) writes:
(stuff deleted)
I think Michigan should if the victory is anywhere near convincing.  If Penn St.
beats Miami, I don't think Penn State will move up to #2, because Michigan will
continue to rout its opponents.  However, if Miami gets through its schedule,
who could it play?  Tennessee, maybe.  A&M, maybe.  But with Fla. State out, and
with Penn State out (if Miami beats them), there isn't a really good team for
Miami to play.  Therefore, the Rose Bowl will be the national championship once
again.  (And just a few years ago, you guys were all making fun of Pasadena.)

(stuff deleted)

I object to your discription "really good team"!  Let me expound on one one of
the evidently "so-so" teams mentioned above.  
Tennessee has outscored their opponents 163-48.  The only one to score more than
14 points was Georgia which was ranked ahead of UT at the time.  This is through
5 games.  Avg score is then 33 pts to 10 (round up).  This was against two
ranked teams.
Now lets look at some of the other unbeaten teams

Team		PF	PA	Avg diff	No. ranked opp
Wash		104	41	26-10		2
Mich		165	55	41-14		1
Miami		89	30	22-8		1
T A&M		105	68	21-14		0

Ranked opp. were at time of game....

There are others but these are the major players in your scenario.  Now, choose
for yourself if there are any teams better than UT now.!!!!!!

Dale Robbins
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Mediocre-10 Predictions
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:54:05 GMT



Well, the Big-10 non-conference schedule has come and gone.
The Big-10 was 13-17-1 if I counted right - not very impressive.
League play starts up next week, so here's my predictions of
the Big-10 race for you all to laugh and spit at.

(1) Michigan (8-0, 10-0-1) - Rose Bowl

        Well, who's gonna beat 'em?  Maybe Ohio State, but if
        that happens, thousands of Columbus-ites won't be able
        to bash on Cooper all winter and will be forced to
        get a life.  Since that'll never happen, I'll put my
        money on the Wolverines.  Iowa won't get them in Ann
        Arbor even if they were good enough (which they aren't).
        The only other team with a prayer is Indiana.

(2) Ohio State (6-2, 9-2) - Citrus Bowl

        Should be the best year for Ohio State in quite a while.
        They *could* win it all, but I expect them to slip up at
        either Indiana or Iowa, and then lose to the Wolverines.

(3) Indiana (6-2, 8-3) - Holiday Bowl

        I saw a little bit of their game with Missouri and thought
        they looked OK.  Mallory's a good coach too.  They have
        Michigan, Iowa, and Ohio State at home.

(4) Iowa (6-2, 7-5) - Some bowl someplace

        Everybody points to their tough non-conference schedule
        and says, "Boy that was tough, but we'll be there in
        the Big-10 race.".  Well, they're right, but not because
        Iowa is good, but rather because the Big-10 is mediocre.

(5) Illinois (4-4, 6-5) - Maybe, but they won't deserve it.

        So are they (a) having trouble adjusting to Tepper, 
        (b) did Mackovic get out just in time, or (c) are they
        a "sleeper"?  My guess is (a) and (b).

(6) Wisconsin (4-4, 6-5) - Nah

        Wisconsin will be the "surprise" team in the Big-10 by
        out-mediocring the rest.  It'll start rough for Bucky in
        the Big-10, but they'll make a strong finish.

(7) Purdue (3-5, 5-6) - Nope

        Purdue, Purdue, Purdue ... I thought maybe they just
        slipped up against Toledo, but alas the evidence of
        Saturday appears to prove me wrong.  How did this
        offense score 40-something against Cal?

(8) Minnesota (2-6, 2-9) - No chance

        Too early for Wacker to turn anything around.

(9) Michigan State (1-7, 1-10) - Nada

        I've seen them a couple of times this year, and they look
        worse than last year.  Georgie better turn it around soon
        or his days are numbered.

(10) Northwestern (0-8, 0-11) - What's a bowl?

        You know, I really don't think Northwestern is this bad,
        but somebody's gotta lose.


david
From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami still number 1?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:27:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.br#pdlp
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <83808@bcsaic.boeing.com> lbaum@bcsaic.boeing.com (Larry Baum) writes:
>Well, we did not get to see the game here, but given Miami's
>near miss (8-7 with Ariz. missing a last-second FG by inches)
>at home against a not particularly great Arizona team, is
>there any justification for ranking them #1?  
>-- 

Not according to the new CNN/USA Today Poll.  Washington is now #1 with
45 or so 1st place votes....Miami is #2 with around 15.  FSU is 3rd with
a few #1 votes.

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UCLA scoring streak
Date: 5 Oct 1992 13:23:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct5.190532.6542@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rjones@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones) writes:
>In article <79DO03yXa0Oi00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>>  UCLA was overrated- Briuns going undefeated- yeah, right.   They were all
>>but shut out by Arizona.
>
>The keywords here are "all but"...I believe UCLA holds (and is still working
>on) the record for consecutive games without being shutout...anybody know
>what the count is so far?

I belive it's 244 or 245 straight. They scored their points in a real whimpy
way though. The Bruins had it first and goal at the Arizona 1 yard line, but
the Arizona defense stiffened and before you know it, it was 4th and goal
with a minute or two remaining. Thats when Terry Donahue displayed on how
much confidence he REALLY has in his offense. Instead of going for the TD,
they quit and kicked an easy field goal only for statistical puposes only.
I think their "powder-puff" pre-conference schedule is again having an adverse
effect on them. One of their announcers still belives that they will blow-out
Stanford. If I'm to belive that, I guess I'm also supposed to belive that Bill
Clinton didn't inhale!


Fight On,
Valdis



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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: PANTHERS STOMP CYCLONES IN GROUND
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:58:36 GMT


carley1560@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>WELL A MIRACLE FINALLY HAPPENED HERE IN IOWA OVER THE WEEKEND.  THE UNIVERSITY
>OF NORTHERN IOWA, IN WONDERFUL CEDAR FALLS, IA, FINALLY GOT WHAT THEY WERE
>LOOKING FOR SINCE 1900 !!!


And what was that?  A caps-lock button?

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
From: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:53:37 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Oct2.131300.28118@b30.ingr.com> b11!seminole!rick@ingr.com writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.173555.24906@meaddata.com>, bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones) writes:
>|> In article <1992Oct1.145140.7854@cs.wm.edu>, djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan) writes:

[sorry, not sure if the attributions are correct]

>|> Just out of curiousity, why does FSU care about ND?  They don't play

Same reason anyone loves to beat ND. 'Cuze you guys occupy the high
morla ground. *snicker*

>I believe FSU will play ND in both '94 and '95.  I think the '94 game will
>be @ ND and the '95 game will be @ neutral site, netexperts please confirm.

I should probably check this before putting my foot in my mouth, but I'm
pretty sure we play in South Bend *next* year and the Citrus Bowl
(Orlando) in '94. I do not know if there are plans or contracts
extending the series after that. Most likely, ND will wait to see if we
beat them before deciding what to do. ;^)

David Poore
poore@ds.13.scri.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: SMU defeats TCU, eyes Cotton
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:06:27 GMT

tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>Inspired by a pre-game castaration of a live horned frog, the SMU Mustangs
>pounded TCU 21-9 at Ownby Stadium Saturday in a pivotal SWC showdown.  Led
>by darkhorse Heisman candidate "Dandy" Dan Freiburger, who completed 31 of 
>51 passes for 372 yards and 2 TDs, the Ponies won their third consecutive game
>and remained unbeaten in the SWC.

>SMU, which now has a share of the SWC lead, was adamant about not relinquishing
>it.  "We've got to go to Waco next week, so we're already thinking about the
>Baylor Bears," defensive lineman Kenny "Sugar" Rea said.  "But we've got A&M
>coming to our place in a game which will mean Cotton.  We really think we can
>beat them.  We think they're the worst Top 5 team in the country."

>GT

Forget about looking ahead to A&M - I want to know if the SMU coach is
going to castrate a bear before the Baylor game . SMU can take Baylor !!!
From: landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Attn:  CAL WEENIES!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:57:31 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Sep28.224548.27838@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>Please, I need your help.  As some of you may be aware, the most hated team
>in the Pac Ten (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
>rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  You all know what this means.
>72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.
>I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
                                          *******
Cliff, this was NOT the way to get the information you are seeking...

>the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.
>If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
>student section to sing along.  If I recall, the words went something like
>
>This is the only song we know,
>It's stupid and it's slow,
>We really wish you'd go,
>...
>
>Please, in the name of good musical taste....save us!
-- 

James A. Landay
landay@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:22:08 GMT

mary@wam.umd.edu  writes:
> Please face the fact that UVA is a joke.  Hell..has any other team gone
> from number 1 to OFF THE POLLS?!?!?!?!  Boy....they sure do play
> some good [padded up wussy schedules] teams!!
> 


I wouldn't exactly call Georgia Tech, Clemson, or Florida padded up
wussy teams.....now W&M....those guys are some wussies....HA HA HA !!!
U.Va will be in the top 10 in two weeks...and if Kirby, Slade, and the
offensive line keep it up they'll knock off Florida.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:09:33 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) wrote:

}For the last time, the Big Ten doesn't have anything to do with Penn State's
}bowl situation ...

I'm afraid that's not really true.  The original plan for the Bowl
Coalition I (or at least the original plan as reported in the press)
was to invite the ACC champ, the Big East champ, Notre Dame, and
2 at-large teams.  For some unknown reason the Big Ten subsequently
announced that no Big Ten teams would be allowed to participate.

After this the BCI members and bowls got together and decided to
line up guaranteed slots for all of the runners-up as well, minus
the SEC runner-up and plus the PAC-10 runner-up.  Two of the
runner-ups would get to go to the BCI and the remaining three to
bowls to be named later (and these were later selected to be
the Gator, Blockbuster, and Hancock.)

I have never heard the Big Ten say the remaining at-large 
spots in the Blockbuster and Hancock bowls are off limits to
Big Ten teams.  But given the initial silliness of saying
Big Ten teams couldn't go to the upper tier bowls, it
wouldn't be surprising.

lein@bae.bellcore.com wrote:
}
}Whoaaa Nellie, (or Pat) PSU made their deal with the Blockbuster AFTER they
}were refused consideration by the bowl cartel.  

As described above, the bowl coalition has a formula to fill all the
slots in the upper tier bowls.  It would be nice if they had made
some sort of arrangement for a strong idependent to be included,
but they were apparently more interested in looking out for 
themselves.

}Unlike a certain school in the midwest last year, Penn State's deal was
}within the NCAA procedures (the NCAA lifted the no bowl bids before a certain
}date restriction).  

Actually the NCAA-mandated date for bowl invitations was lifted after
1990.  The bowl picking date last year was self-imposed by the bowls
themselves, so that was the only rule Notre Dame broke.  (Of course,
they did break the NCAA's deadline in 1990, but so did half of the
schools which went to bowls.)

}If Penn State goes 11-0 (I know it's a big if).  Watch the Blockbuster bowl
}throw out big $$$$$$$$ to lure someone away from the cartel.

I doubt that will happen - the Blockbuster has signed a contract 
saying it will take the number two team from the BCII.  If Pepsi
State goes undefeated they will have beaten contenders Notre Dame
and Miami, along with one to four other bowl teams and a conference
runner-up in the Blockbuster Bowl.  That will be at least as hard 
a schedule as several MNC's have played in the last decade, including
Pepsi State's 1986 slate.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"       
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson)
Subject: Kiss of Death
Keywords: all over but the shoutin'
Organization: Florida State University "Foregone Conclusion" Department
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:00:08 GMT


Nole Fans, you may as well make other plans this weekend.  Lee Corso just 
picked FSU to win big this weekend.  And he has a direct line to the woof gods.
 
Hmm...who's FAMU playing this weekend?
-- 
Bob Swanson			    Give me a lever long enough, and a place
swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu	    to stand, and I will break my lever.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon)
Subject: The deciding game for the Rose bowl this Weekend
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:00:47 GMT

	The game Sat. with Michigan Vs. Iowa should decide who goes to
the Rose Bowl.  The last seven out of the eleven years the team that
has won that game has gone to smell the roses.
	Iowa vs. Michigan
-----------------------------------------------------
Year  Site        Result		  Rose Bowl
-----------------------------------------------------
1981  Ann Arbor   Iowa 9, Michigan 7      Iowa
1982  Iowa City   Michigan 29, Iowa 7	  Michigan
1983  Ann Arbor   Michigan 16, Iowa 7	  Illinois (1)
1984  Iowa City   Iowa 26, Michigan 0	  Ohio State (2) 
1985  Iowa City   Iowa 12, Michigan 10	  Iowa
1986  Ann Arbor   Michigan 20, Iowa 17    Michigan
1987  Ann Arbor   Michigan 37, Iowa 10    Michigan State (3)
1988  Iowa City   Iowa 17, Michigan 17 (TIE)  Michigan
1989  Iowa City   Michigan 24, Iowa 12    Michigna 
1990  Ann Arbor   Iowa 24, Michigan 23	  Iowa
1991  Iowa City   Michigan 43, Iowa 24	  Michigan
------------------------------------------------------
	From 1968 to 1980 it was the season ending game 
between Michigan and Ohio State, thirteen straight times
This next game will be the same.  Michigan will win and 
go to the Rose Bowl.

Source Cedar Rapids Gazette (tues sept 29)

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From: paasch@engr.cs.orst.edu (Bob Paasch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:57:38 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

In article <vrcpfvg@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>In article <BvKBp3.DEF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>>Miami has just reaffirmed itself as the #1 team in the country
>                                        ^^^^^
>>by defeating Florida State in an exciting battle at the Orange
>>Bowl.
>>
>>Miami 19
>>FSU   16   Final
>
>I guess they are still #2 on the CNN/USA Today poll just due to some
>typo then.   ;-)
>

Just one persons opinion: I don't feel Miami should be voted #1 based on
the results of this game.  People were saying last week that Miami
didn't win the AZ game as much as Arizona's kicker lost it, but I had
to agree that holding them to a 50 yard field goal made a lot of difference.
But this week we have Miami averting a tie when the FSU kicker fails with
a 37 yarder.  A decent kicker should make this about 75% of the time.
Given that Washingtons victory over U$C was never _seriously_ in doubt,
I say Washington is still #1.  I'd guess the AP poll will give ABC(?) a
#2 vs #3 matchup next week with Miami and Penn State.
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: If Michigan had played to win....
Keywords: Michigan-ND
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:36:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Aha!  I stand corrected.  Miami has tough schedule ahead.  
@PSU, @'Cuse, WV, BC, SDSU.  Hmmmm.  Well, if the 'Canes go undefeated, they
will have done it against a quality schedule.  Not that I WANT them to, but they
still would have done it against good teams.  This doesn't even include a bowl
game opponent, which could be: Tennessee, Alabama, TAMU, Virginia, or even
Notre Dame (doubtful, but possible).  
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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