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                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2927

                        Thursday, September 03, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                                  Sweating
                                    aides
                               post nasal drip
                                  Re: aides
                             Re: Fried Death !!!
                                 fast chairs
                                Re: Sweating
                             Athlete Joints....
                               Fried Death !!!
                                 acupuncture


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Subject: Sweating
From: Greg.Wick@f45.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Wick)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/45 - The French Connecti, Edmonds Wa


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Any Quads (I'm a C-5) have a problem with sweating at night? It use
to be just every now and then, but now it's almost every night. I
wake up after a couple hours just sweating. My leg jumps if I take
a deep breth. I get turned and I'm fine for the rest of the night.
A couple times a week even if I get turned I still sweat bad. It's
not so bad if I stay flat on my back, but then my legs kick up and
eack turn a different direction and that really makes me sweat.
Anyone know what can be done about that? Thanks

===
 * SLMR 2.1 * "OUCH" I just my floppy caught in my unzipper!

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Subject: aides
From: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Allison Cozzi)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/3216 - Computer Communicat, Concord Ca


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

-> for "peanuts" at $16.25/hr. He thought that he should be paid more be

     Whew! Is this typical pay for an aide??? I don't require one so I
am one of the uninformed on the going pay for an aide.

                                                           Allison

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Subject: post nasal drip
From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a missive of <Aug 19 11:53> Allison Cozzi (1:161/3216)
writes to Alan Hess:

 AC>      Is it possible that this may be related to what you are
 AC> experiencing?

I don't think so, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to ask.  Thanks
for the tip.  *adh*

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Subject: Re: aides
From: Kevin.Robinson@f15.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Robinson)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:280/15 - Writers' Block BBS, Raytown MO


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Around here, Allison, professional nursing costs about $35/hr. There are
tasks like cathing that the states says require an LN...at least when a
pro firm is providing the care.
   Yours etc.,

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Subject: Re: Fried Death !!!
From: Patti.Bader@p0.f323.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Patti Bader)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/323.0 - SHENK'S EXPRESS, La Mesa


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 -=> Quoting Curtis Oglesby to Joe Chamberlain <=-

 JC>     Maintenance doses of any antibiotic should be avoided
 JC> because they weaken the bodies natural defences.  In addition,
 JC> when you do get an infection while taking a maintenance drug, the
 JC> infection is often harder to get rid of.

 CO> True.  I've always been concerned about those very issues.  Guess I
 CO> in good shape for many years.  Maybe it's time for a change. -!-

Hi!  Just thought I'd interject here.  I was on maintenance antibiotics for
many years and became immune to almost all of them.  About 2 years ago, my
uro and I hit upon something that has seemed to work for me (knock-wood), the
first 5 days of the month I take an antibiotic (Cipro) twice a day.  This seems
to wipe out any starting infection effectively.  In 2 years I've only had to
take additional antibiotics once and that's because when I was in the hospital
they put in a foley.  Otherwise I do intermitten catherization 6-7 times a day.
I also take 500 mg Vitamin C twice a day, I've heard various opinions on this.
Patti

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Subject: fast chairs
From: Alan.Hess@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Hess)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

How fast do the fastest wheelchairs go?  *adh*

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Subject: Re: Sweating
From: Tim.Syfert@f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Syfert)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 GW> Any Quads (I'm a C-5) have a problem with sweating at night? It
 GW> use to be just every now and then, but now it's almost every
 GW> night. I wake up after a couple hours just sweating. My leg
 GW> jumps if I take a deep breth. I get turned and I'm fine for the
 GW> rest of the night. A couple times a week even if I get turned I
 GW> still sweat bad. It's not so bad if I stay flat on my back, but
 GW> then my legs kick up and eack turn a different direction and
 GW> that really makes me sweat. Anyone know what can be done about
 GW> that? Thanks ===  * SLMR 2.1 * "OUCH" I just my floppy caught
 GW> in my unzipper!

Greg,

I'm also a C-5er and have experienced the same thing a few times.
Fortunately it hasn't been chronic. Sorry to hear it's become a bad
problem with you. I sleep mostly on my left side (although most of my
back is on the bed), but for about a year or two I slept flat on my
back. When I did I used to put two stacked pillows under my knees
to put a bend in them (the bend helps keep the spasms down), then I
would have a blanket tucked in under the mattress REAL good on both
sides down by my legs to keep them put when they spasmed. I would
suggest trying that if you haven't already, PLUS, it would help your
back side to have a circulating air mattress if you don't have one
already. Hope this helps.

                                        Tim

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Subject: Athlete Joints....
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Joe Chamberlain <24 Aug 92 03:25> Sheila Fava wrote:

 SF> Joe, how about the address of _Paraplegia_ Magazine?

     Paraplegia
     Science and Medicine Div.
     McMillan Press Ltd
     Houndmills, BasingStoke, Hamshire,
     RG-21 2XS U. K.

     75 /yr subscription

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Subject: Fried Death !!!
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Joe Chamberlain <20 Aug 92 20:57> Curtis Oglesby wrote:

 CO> How many uti do you avg each year?  Does the large dose of
 CO> vitamin C bother your stomach?  If so, this may help avoid
 CO> building a tolerance to the antibiotics but wouldn't help my

I run a low grade infection all the time and maybe 2-3 times a year
it develops in a infection with fever. I take the vitimin C on a
full stomach either at lunch or dinner and it doesn't bother me.
Pastrami and raw onion with brown mustard bothers me.

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Subject: acupuncture
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Joe Chamberlain <17 Aug 92 14:55> Paul Li wrote:

 PL>        Thanks for your regard And The award is a real motivation

     I'm glad to hear it.  Did you get my netmail?

     What do you think of the article below:

++++++++
ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE

Acupuncture:
Permanent Paralysis

Preventing

     Recent research indicates that a "vibrational" or
"energy" medicine approach to spinal cord injury shows the
most promise of promoting the regeneration of damaged spinal
nerve fibers. The most ancient and still one of the most
effective of these energy medicine therapies is acupuncture.
Considered in Western terms, acupuncture works by generating
a tiny electromagnetic current when the metal needles touch
living tissues.

      Stimulation of the correct acupuncture points sends
this micro-current to the tissues we wish to treat. Asian
medicine long ago worked out which points treat which
tissues. Selection of the correct points is done in a
thorough interview and examination at each appointment.
Acupuncturists diagnose and treat on a case by-case basis
with a custom designed program of acupuncture points, herbs
and schedules of treatment.

      As it happens, acupuncture has a specific affinity for
the nervous system and is therefore the therapy of choice
for paralysis. Asian medicine offers a protocol for
paralysis which is fully holistic, including diet, herbs,
physical therapies, cupping, massage and local applications
as well as extensive and frequent acupuncture.

      Given the lack of curative therapies for spinal cord
injury in the West, I propose that the Asian system be given
a fair chance in the SCI community. Happily for us, Dr. Ron
(Doc) Rosen, of Denver, Colo., is an acupuncturist with a
well-developed method for treating SCI cases at any stage
after injury.

      Many acupuncturists now believe that it is quite
possible to prevent permanent paralysis by using acupuncture
immediately after injury. Doc Rosen says that short-
termparalysis actually serves a protective purpose. The
problem is that, given Western treatment, this normal short-
term paralysis doesn't pass off when it should and long-term
paralysis sets in. Why is this? And what can we do to
prevent it?

     You'll remember that Auntie Jane told you in the Fall
1990 issue about Dr. William 0. Becker's proposal in his
book, THE BODY ELECTRIC, that it is an abnormal
electromagnetic condition of the traumatized spinal area
known as "spinal shock" which prevents the rapid and natural
re-growth of severed spinal nerve fibers. Electromagnetic
manipulation, he said, is the key to reversing spinal shock.

      Therefore, to begin the natural regeneration of spinal
nerves we must stimulate the area immediately and
continually with electromagnetic currents. There are now
several practical ways of producing these currents,including
acupuncture.

     Doc Rosen recommends that paramedics insert the first
acupuncture needles at the scene of the trauma. Then an
acupuncturist can make more sophisticated insertions twice a
day for two or three months. This schedule of treatment, he
feels, will prevent permanent paralysis.

     A recent example of the use of immediate and continued
acupuncture in acute SCI comes to us from China. Dr. Miriam
Lee, an acupuncturist from Palo Alto, Calif, recently saw
acute SCI cases after an earthquake in China. The only
available therapy was acupuncture, which was given twice a
day for two months.

     Dr. Lee was pleased to note that the majority of acute
SCI cases had achieved a good degree of recovery while she
was there. This included sitting up, working from a sitting
position, and bowel and bladder control. Some people were
beginning to walk with braces before she left. Think of the
wonderful results we could achieve by combining acupuncture
with our excellent Western support services.

     But what about long-term SCI? Recent research reveals
that acupuncture can usefully treat SCI symptoms at any
stage. All four acupuncturists I interviewed insist they can
successfully treat pain, spasms, incontinence and tissue
breakdown. This alone is enough to recommend acupuncture to
most spinal cord injured people.

     Furthermore, the electromagnetic currents of
acupuncture can actually stimulate the regeneration of
spinal nerve fibers and lead to the resumption of normal
sensory and motor innervation.

     I propose the following for long term SCI: Use
acupuncture to break down the resistant scar tissues which
may have formed at the severed ends of spinal nerve fibers;
then further acupuncture will stimulate the spinal nerve
cells to grow new fibers and re-start the overall
electromagnetic current of the spinal nervous system and
lead to the resumption of normal function.

      No one knows how long this will take, but Doc Rosen
recommends one acupuncture treatment for every two weeks
since injury. You or your acupuncturist may learn of Doc
Rosen's system for treating paralysis by contacting him at
1510 York St., Denver, Co., 80206, 303-333-9977. Be patient,
he's busy.

     Doc Rosen also claims success in treating the paralysis
and weakness of people with multiple sclerosis with Asian
methods. He recommends two acupuncture treatments per week
for several weeks until a substantial amount of improvement
is seen, then several treatments per year to maintain the
improvement. As with other disorders, each MS case is
treated on a case-by-case basis. Doc Rosen also treats with
Chinese herbs for continuing support to the nervous system.

      As I see it, the biggest problems in using Asian
medicine for SCI paralysis and MS weakness are getting to
the frequent appointments and paying for them. Some
acupuncturists will make house calls. Do ask. As for
payment, many insurance companies will now reimburse for
acupuncture if a physician writes a prescription for it.
Tell your doctor you read that acupuncture is good for pain,
incontinence, spasms, and tissue break down. Best not to
mention recovery just yet. It's really worth a good faith
try. Well, that's all for now. Drop a note about your
acupuncture experiences. 'Til next time, Love from Auntie
Jane . . .

NewMobility/Summer l992

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