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From: Jonathan A. Duke <jonathan@hermes.bc.edu>
Subject: Re: *** Questions about FaxSTF
Organization: Boston College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:44:15 GMT



In article <92278.144633IGMJG@ASUACAD.BITNET> , IGMJG@ASUACAD.BITNET
writes:
>Does FaxSTF let the user send a fax directly from any application?

	Yes.

>Is FaxSTF able to receive faxes automatically, in the background?

	Never tried it, but the manual says that it can.

>Does FaxSTF allow deferred sending of faxes (ie: faxing after 11 P.M.)?

	Yes.

>Does FaxSTF make you route through the chooser to switch between data &
fax
>modes?

	I'm not sure what exactly you are asking here; to switch the MODEM
between 
	fax and data, or to fax a single document, then print the next one to a
	printer?
	
	
	Anyway, I'll answer both.  The software is smart enough to figure out
when
	you are making a data call out (or in) and disables the fax mode at that
time.
	When you finish the data call, the modem reverts back to fax mode.
	
	STF also includes a control panel that allows you to set a group of
modifier
	keys that you can hold down in an application to choose to fax a
document,
	rather than printing it to your normally selected printer.

>How does FaxSTF handle cover pages?

	I think the software does rather well on conver pages, though it took me
a 
	bit of work to get mine to look right with my logo (just my logo was
coming
	out a bit funny).
	
	
I'm rather impressed with the software, overall.


Jon Duke
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Terminal Software Supporting ZModem & vt100?
Distribution: world
Date: 3 Oct 92 09:07:04 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

You have ZTerm 1.00?  That isn't an official release, it's a hack someone
did in ResEdit (mainly just changing the menus a little) on v0.85.  There
is a ZTerm 0.9 out though and it has better vt-100 emulation, even when in
ANSI-BBS mode.  You should get it.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
From: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Help 14.4k modem and mac
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:55:24 GMT
Reply-To: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org
Organization: Knarf's UUCP-Center, Munich, West-Germany
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <5082@daily-planet.concordia.ca>, RUPNIK, CHRISTOPHER E. writes:
>Message-ID: <24SEP199220025810@pavo.concordia.ca>
>Organization: Concordia University
>News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
>
> except it came without a cable. Now i believe i need the hardware
> handshaking cable, but everybody in Montreal thinks i am from outerspace
> asking for such a weird thing. 
> The question is, if i am able to dial numbers, perform other such test
> and even connect at 9600bps and above, evey thing is fine
> But then after i get the connect 9600 or whatever, i cannot type anthing
> at all. hmmm He is configuration
>
> Mac Plus or Mac LCII
> System 607 (plus) or 7.0.1 + tuneup 1.1.1 (LCII)
> Z-term 0.9
> NORMAL mac ==> modem cable  (NOT HH)
> tweo modems one 14.4 one 2400
>
> Now what is going on? I need the cable right? or not? 
> I heard that it is only needed if you have garbage going all over the screen
> or you cannot type any at commands. Right?
>
> Any help please
>
> ce_rupn@pavo.concordia.ca

I have the same problem with a MacClassic and the BEST 14400 Modem. I
don't know how to find out if my modem cable is a hardware handshake
cable or not! Are most of the cables HH cables or not?

Next Problem: If I use AT&D0, I think 'harware hangup (DTR)' should not
work. But it does work!

Knarf
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis)
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:31:25 GMT

In article <6129.2ad01891@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)  
writes:
> In article <1992Oct4.174724.1237@muddcs.claremont.edu>,  
jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis) writes:
> > 
> > It is an absolute dream to say the least.  Despite the fact that every  
> > other comm program crashes or aborts a file transfer when you do  
anything  
> > during it, MacIntercomm does not.  
> 
> I OBJECT! I OBJECT to this interferance that "other" communications  
software
> crashes during background transfers!
> 
> While MacIntercomm does have the unique feature of performing file  
transfers
> while you do such things as hold down menus or recalculate Excel  
spreadsheets,
> other comm programs can transfer files just fine in the background.
> 
> Sure, some comm software will pause while you have menus pull down.

Bill:

Let's be realistic, virtually everything one would normally want to do  
takes up too much time in a normal situation, and results in slowing down  
a transfer.  I will grant that usually other old comm programs like  
SmartCom wont crash, but they certainly abort the transfer.  I guess I  
misstated myself.  The thing is that you say, how often do you do these  
things that slow the computer down?  Well I would say often.  Things like  
formatting a disk, stuffing a file, unstuffing, booting an application,  
holding down a menu, playing virtually ANY game, working with a complex  
spreadsheet, using a large database, printing, etc...  Take that list and  
I am doing one of those things about 70% of the time.  I can't do any of  
those things during a file transfer with any of the existing comm software  
besides MacIntercomm without significantly slowing or aborting my  
transfer.  This is not only apparent at V.32bis where the timing is  
crucial, but perhaps even more so at 2400 baud where response time in many  
protocols is imperative.  I have a suggestion.  Go play After Dark's  
Lunatic Fringe module while you do a high speed transfer.  Play for 30  
seconds.  Bye bye transfer.  But MacIntercomm was still going full speed  
after I did that test.

SmartCom and others don't do anything in the background.  That's  
laughable.  They use the Multifinder HACK that is Apple's sorry excuse for  
multitasking which clearly doesn't work for things like comm programs.   
MacIntercomm is the only program I know of that can really do  
backgrounding, and to downplay that seems like bad sportsmanship.

-Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: brent@telebit.com (Brent Chapman)
Subject: Re: *** Questions about FaxSTF
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:54:14 GMT

<IGMJG@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:

>I'm thinking about buying a v.32bis fax modem for my Macintosh. Right now, the
>tossup appears to be between the Supra (w/v.17 14.4 Fax) or a Global Village
>Teleport Gold (w/plain ol' 9600 Group III Fax). Anyway, the deciding swing
>vote may be in the software that each modem uses. I've read a bit about the
>Teleport's fax software; now, I have questions for those of you who use STF's
>FaxSTF software. Mainly:

I've got both: Global Village's "GlobalFAX" software with a GV PowerPort V.32
(aka "PowerPort Gold") modem in a PowerBook 140, and FAXstf with a Supra
FAXmodem V.32bis on my Mac IIcx.  Of the two, I definitely prefer the Global
Village stuff.  It has a few features FAXstf doesn't (like the ability to
easily and conveniently merge multiple documents into a single FAX), and
it seems generally better designed, more consistent, and more reliable.

>Does FaxSTF let the user send a fax directly from any application?

Yes, they both do.  If you option-Print something (which lets you FAX it
with switching from your normal printer to the FAX modem in the Chooser),
FAXstf sometimes doesn't switch back to your original printer.

>Is FaxSTF able to receive faxes automatically, in the background?

Yes, supposedly, but my incoming FAXes come to a real FAX machine on
another line, so I don't really have much experience with this.

>Does FaxSTF allow deferred sending of faxes (ie: faxing after 11 P.M.)?

Yes, but it's not as convenient as the GlobalFAX setup.

>Does FaxSTF make you route through the chooser to switch between data & fax
>modes?

No.

>How does FaxSTF handle cover pages?

Poorly, but it does handle them.

I really wish there was some alternative to FAXstf for my Supra.


-Brent
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+1 415 962 0841                                 Mountain View, CA  94041
From: andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TALK to a VAX
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:23:39 GMT
Reply-To: andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki)
Organization: A Maze of Twisty Little Passages, All Alike
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1ao2h1INN21i@koh-sun1.usc.edu> (comp.sys.mac.comm), chaoyang@koh-sun1.usc.edu (Chao Yang) writes:
> 
> I know that UNIX system has a talk command which lets you talk to a friend. 
> Does anybody know how to TALK to a host or whatever in a VAX system?  Thanks
> a lot.
> 

I presume you mean VAX-VMS; you might try the VMS phone utility. 
At the VMS prompt type "HELP PHONE" for a breif description.

AB.

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                        "Hello?  Hello?"  (604) 664.4545
From: butenko@stalker.srcc.msu.su (Vladimir Butenko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: HayesConnect with Abaton Interfax??
Date: 25 Sep 92 21:46:51 GMT
Reply-To: butenko@stalker.srcc.msu.su
Organization: STALKER Software

In article <188@mindlink.bc.ca>
   Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack) writes:
>Seeking advice and/or opinions from users of HayesConnect (allows one to share devices
>on the serial ports with Appletalk or LocalTalk net users) and the Abaton Interfax.
>
>Or, if anyone is using the Abaton Interfax with Intershare, would you care to describe
>your experiences?
>
>We want to share a fax/modem with 4-5 users on our LocalTalk net, and HayesConnect
>SEEMS to be the thing to do it for us, but I'd like to hear from _users_!
 PortShare (both Lite and Pro) allows you not only to share the  modem,
 but also to use it's for fax transmittions. It's proved to  work  fine
 with Abaton Interfax.

 Please note, that only  PortShare  Pro  is  compatible  with  ARA  and
 cooperates with the Remote Access software on  PortShare  Servers  and
 Clients.

 Disclaimer: yes, I do work for Stalker, the PortShare manufacturer.

Vladimir Butenko                         STALKER Software
Phone:  7(095)939 3907   Fax:  7(095)938 2136
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:9531 comp.sys.mac.hardware:18073
From: rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Can Shiva Remote Networks REALLY be THIS SLOW?
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:11:55 GMT
Organization: The Tao of Programming
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

Hi all...


Here's the scenario :

Site A is a localtalk network with a Shiva Telebridge. The Telebridge is
hooked to a Telebit T-3000 modem.

Site B is a 10-Base-T Ethernet network with a Shiva Ethergate. The
Ethergate is also hooked to a Telebit T-3000 modem.

When these two networks are connected. Simple things like opening up a
directory on a remote fileserver take FOREVER. I would normally say,
Well that's what you get for connecting two remote networks, but here
are some observations I've been making :

1> By watching the Send and Receive lights on the modems, I can see that
very LITTLE activity is going on between the two sites.

2> By watching the lights, I have determined that a "packet" is sent
and received every 2 to 3 seconds. It is not sending packets one after
another.

3> The highest setting I can get the modems to work at with the Shiva
products is 38.4 KPS even though the Shivas and the modem are designed
to go faster.

Can anyone please tell me :

1> Why the Shiva sents packets so SLOWLY? Why doesn't it send them one right
after another?

2> Why the Shivas won't work with the T-3000 at 57.6?


                         thanks in advance,

                                   --Roby
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lupini@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Lupini)
Subject: FAXstf and Comm Port Problem
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:42:10 GMT

The problem of FAXstf not being able to grab back control of the 
serial port if another program does not release it properly has been 
discussed quite a bit here. And as suggested, using the program GREMLINS
in the Unsupported Utilities folder which comes with FAXstf solves this
problem. 

But another problem which Gremlins (nor the two other Serial Port
release tools I've tried) can deal with is as follows:

You quit from a communications program while the modem is still 
connected (I do this quite a bit when switching between terminal programs).
FAXstf immediately tries to grab the port, and it tries sending an
initialization string to the modem (you can see the lights flashing). Of
course the modem doesn't respond properly since it is on line. FAXstf seems
to give up and stay in data mode no matter what until the computer is 
rebooted. 

Can anyone help out with this?

Peter


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:9492 comp.sys.mac.apps:15108
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 14:08:13 +01
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac interface to PROFS mail?
From: Andre' Pirard <pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be>
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6ECCFF70403180A@ampa.segi.ulg.ac.be>
X-XXDate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:06:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Liege (Belgium)

In article <1992Sep24.175059.21592@mmm.serc.3m.com> Paul E. Jacoby,
pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com writes:
>A few users here are interested in a nice graphical interface to PROFS
>mail on the IBM big-iron.  I seem to recall that MitemView had some
>interfaces to IBM via 3270 connections, but I have seen little
>advertising from them of late.

What you need is a PROFS interface to SMTP.
Using Eudora on your Mac, this is what you would need on top of TCP/IP
for VM (PROFS specifically supported):

Quote:
Well, due to the apparent popularity of POP servers, I've made my code
available for anonymous FTP by merely making the read password on the
server disk "ALL". If you ftp to vmd.cso.uiuc.edu and cd to popd, you
should see all the files you need. Be sure to read 00README FIRST first.
Have fun.

--
Charley Kline, KF9FF, PP-ASEL
UIUC Network Architect and Senior Research Programmer
University of Illinois Computing and Communications Services
cvk@uiuc.edu





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From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: VAX/Kermit/Mac-wrong file transfer!!!!!
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 11:21:42 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Sep30.160009.41444@urz.unibas.ch> (comp.sys.mac.comm), spissinger@urz.unibas.ch writes:
| 
| Hi, 
| I have a problem with getting zipped files from the VAX to our Mac.
| When I try to unzip the files on my PC it often doesn't work and the error
| message is "inconsistent local header".
| I looked at the file and found that there is always written "appl???" twice in
| line 4 or 5 or so, surrounded by a lot of "....".
| So I think anyhow the fucking Mac writes it in the file.
| PKZIPFIX doesn't help.
| I used binary mode on both sides.
| Server mode on VAX.
| I do it with VersatermPro/Kermit.
| I tried a lot and now I'm gettin' reeaaalllllyyyyyyy angry.
| Help me before I kill a Mac.

Sound to me as if those 'zipped' files were uploaded to the VAX by a Mac
with MacBinary turned ON. This resulted in the files being uploaded in MacBinary
file format, hence the APPL???? you found somewhere in the first 128 bytes
of the file. MacBinary has a 128 byte header in front of the data.

You have two choices at this point.

#1  Strip off the first 128 bytes. This will leave you with the 'zipped'
    data, _if_ the file is indeed a zipped file, possibly followed by non-
    zipped data. If the zip utilities are good about ignoring the non-zipped
    data then this scheme will work.

#2  Have those zipped files sent to the VAX again, but this time tell whoever
    did it to turn MacBinary OFF before sending them from their Mac.

--Dave

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From: aroest@fwi.uva.nl (Axello de Roestello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Backquote key sends escape in NCSA Telnet 2.5
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:16:50 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

mcn@cfa203.HARVARD.EDU (Charley Noecker, Prec Astron) writes:

>From article <1992Oct1.184744.4172@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, 
>by eric@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Eric Hansen):
>> Why do I get an <ESC> when I hit the back-quote key on my extended keyboard?
>> How do I fix this?  I'm using NCSA Telnet 2.5 (which is very buggy :-|
>> 
>> - Eric

Hi Eric, 
If you select the item 'preferences' under the edit menu, you will find
a checkbox named: 'Remap backquote to ESCape'.

Really, it's *that* simple.

Axel

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:9502 comp.protocols.appletalk:3485 comp.sys.mac.misc:17158
From: hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Ramon J. Hontanon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Ethernet, Localtalk question
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:35:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm

Someone posted a question recently about how to print on both ethertalk
and Localtalk from the same machine. My question is a little different:

- If I have a Mac connected to _both_ localtalk and ethernet, can I
  write an application that will read data coming from Localtalk and
  will send the data over the ethernet. (Do I have to physically
  switch networks at the control panel?)

I now run MailStop in this Mac, and I can read mail from clients on
Localtalk as well as clients on ethernet. However, when that same
Mac acts as an Appleshare server, it can only be accessed on the
network selected on the control panel (_not_ both). 


Any comments/suggestions appreciated

Ramon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Subject: ICMP
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:18:19 GMT

Pete Resnick wrote:
> Complaint: Anyone who ignores the ASR ignores ICMP messages. *Don't*
> ignore the ASR; report and act on ICMP destination unreachables. If
> you attempt a TCPActiveOpen and get an ICMP destination unreachable,
> TCPAbort the open and report to the user instead of doing what most
> programs do, which is wait up to a minute for the damn thing to time
> out.

Reporting ICMP unreachables is fine.  *Acting* on them is another matter. 
A single ICMP unreachable means very little, and should be ignored.  A
series of ICMP unreachables is probably meaningful, but it's easier just to
report the problem and let the user decide to cancel if he wants to.

This is especially true of established connections; it's bad magic to abort
a good connection because of one ICMP message.
From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Sending META characters from Microphone II
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 16:56:02 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4

What emacs expects for a META key is actually fairly simple. Either the
character has it's eigth bit turned on, or it is preceeded by an ESC character.

For example, meta-A can be represented as:

   '\0xC1'        /* C syntax for 'A' with the 8th bit turned on */

or

   "\0x1BA"       /* C syntax for "ESC A" */

Using any Mac VT100 emulator for instance, you can send a meta-A by pressing
the Escape key and then the A key.

Most emacs editors will support both representations. Additionally, there
is a emacs editor variable called "meta-flag" which if set tells emacs
that the terminal supports the meta key. The "meta-flag" will generally
dervive it's value from the termcaps setting for your terminal. Occasionally
the termcaps setting is wrong and tells emacs that you have a meta key.
Still, it shouldn't matter if your emacs supports both representations.

See the GNU Emacs manaul, page 15 for more info.

--Dave

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From: lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Les Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MAC TCP --- multiple clients blow up?
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:54:27 GMT

We are using NCSA telnet 2.5 with MAC TCP and Eudora/Nuntius/Fetch/
HyperCard MacTCP XCMDs. Although I can't remember this happening "before",
we now have the following behaviour:
	a) Telnet by itself works fine
	b) Eudora by itself works fine
	c) If both clients try network access at the same time
	   then the last one in fails. Thereafter (until reboot)
	   no MACTCP application works.
I'm sure this shouldn't happen---or is it a fundamental problem
with MacTCP?

Setup: MacSEs, System 7.01, MacTCP 1.1, telnet 2.5, Racal InterLAN 
ethernet cards.
-- 
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Tel: +44 703 593649                  Dept of Electronics and Computer Science
Fax: +44 703 593045                  University of Southampton SO9 5NH England
From: creed@fse.ulaval.ca (Carlos Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: System 7 sharing & Apple Share
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:50:15 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 12: 54:41 GMT
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Hi evrybody !!!


Does anybody know what are the differences between the sharing option on
system 7 and Apple Share 3.0 ?

Do they perfom the same as servers ? (I'm planing to serve at least 10
persons).
Are there any speckmarks out there?



Any comments would be aprettiated.



Thanks in advance


Carlos Reed           Creed@fse.ulaval.ca
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:16:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.16537.2AC8E1D8
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

Glad to see you out here, Ray.  After ending MacScience, I wondered if you had 
left networks completely.  I still think you ran the best Science-oriented BBS 
in the country.  I've tried to fill the gap here, but sure don't have the
sources you'd been using!






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