HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hamilton@samarra.ced.berkeley.edu (Chris Hamilton)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Date: 8 Oct 1992 16:32:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: samarra.ced.berkeley.edu

In article <ld6gh3INN4l3@cronkite>, p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics) writes:
|> In article <jackson.16.718461469@cc.und.ac.za> jackson@cc.und.ac.za (Clive Jackson) writes:
|> >Does anyone remember the surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now? I'm curious as to 
|> >whether there really is any surf along the Vietnamese Coast and whether 
|> >there have ever been any reports on surfaris or surf spots.
|> 
|> Clive,
|> 
|> 	Yes, the place is real but I can't recall the name of the beach.
|> 	Supposidly last year some tour agent and the tourism people
|> 	in Vietnam were trying to/did have a contest at the place.
|> 
|> 	I know that you can buy a tour package out of Thailand
|> 	that includes surfing.
|> 


"Apocalypse Now" was filmed on location in the Phillipines.

CH
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: mcdavey@maths.tcd.ie (Matthew Davey)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:26:42 GMT

What a shame that....
kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:

Did you know I found his idiotic survey in no less than 98 groups,
from alt.beer to alt.radio.scanner?  Someone told me he's a regular
poster of Neo-Fascist/Anti-Semitic rubbish.  Yuck!  Clear the Air!

Matt Davey,  Trinity College, Dublin.   mcdavey@maths.tcd.ie
-- 


mdavey@unix1.tcd.ie       Bic Rock n Roll + Tushingham 4.5 Wave slalom:  
mcdavey@maths.tcd.ie      -- A mother of a mover in a force seven rage.
From: u2119390@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surf .gif Files
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:47:03 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

		Hey Lud,
	I was wondreing if you could mail me those gif things too, but
	I gotta say i haven't got a clue how to look at them, like they just
	come up in binary or something, i dunno........but hey, its worth a
	try i guess, send anything, anything, I get worked up at the sight
	of an ant going sick in some ripples on a puddle i've been landlocked
	for so long by my stupid foot. (next wednesday--no longer:I'm free!)
	So yep, anything would be much apreciated!
	Thanx in advance (hopefully )
		Jay

		MY E-MAIL ADRESS IS:

		U2119390@CSDVAX.CSD.UNSW.EDU.AU
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:19:35 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:
>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.
>
>1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
Yes, unless they drop in on me, or take a wave I was goin for.
>2.) Are you pro choice?
I choose to surf.
>3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
Yes, adopt a section of beach and keep it clean.
>4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
>rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
No answer, to many big words in the question.
>5.) What sex are you?
M
>6.) How old are you?
>19 to 65           [ ]
>7.) What religion are you?
Its a surf thing, you wouldn't understand
>8.) What political party are you affiliated with?

>9.) How many years of education have you completed?
Too many and no more!

What is this and why was it posted here.

   O                                     There are two kinds of people:
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       The people who know alot, and
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         the people who want you to
  /     David Taylor Model Basin         think they know alot. The hard
   \___________________________          part is discerning the difference
			     \\          between the two.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson)
Subject: Re: Buying a longboard
Organization: Quantum Reef Project (Big Island of Hawaii)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:33:20 GMT

Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark) wrote:
> I have a friend that is cleaning out his garage
>and has an old longboard he wants so sell.  I was
>thinking about buying it, but I want your 
>opinions.  
>  It is a late 60's Gordon&Smith 10 ft board.
>I have not seen it yet, but he says it's in
>fairly good condition (no serious dings)
>He wants $50 for it.  He purchased it new
>in Santa Barbara.

 ....... [ unnecessary verbiage deleted ] ... I better be careful with my
opinions here !! [ Like R. Dangerfield Says ] " You guys are a mean crowd " .

Maybe you should consider a few things:

Are you looking for a collectors item a a surf stick ??
	
	If you have any plans for keeping it as a collector's item you need
	to check:
		1) How many dings does it have ?
		2) Were they patched correctly and soon enough to prevent
		   water damage ?
		3) Was it left out in the sun to yellow ?
		4) What kind and how many stringers does it have ?
		5) Is the shape and fin original ?
		6) Is it serialized and readable (It might have been owned
		   by someone famous and the ## will help track it) ?
		7) Has the deck glass separated from the foam ?
		8) What kind of foam is it (Clark, poly (generic), etc ?
	
	If your only interested in using it for occasional fun then all you 
	you need to know is:
		1) Is it ready to ride ?
		2) How much does it weigh (Some late 60's boards were 25 lbs) ?
		3) Is it water logged ?
		4) Are the stringer[s] rotten ?

Hey have you checked the price of blanks lately ? Almost any hunk of foam is
worth $50. Even if it's a total piece of crap you might get enough foam out
of it to make a board. If if does get recycled it might be worth more if you 
can retain some of it's integrity. There is a lot of activity in the board
recycling business because of the increase in cost of fossil fuel products
like polyfoam. And you never know the board might be awesome and the guy who
owns it just wants to get rid of it. I know someone who bought a 1955 Corvette
for $300 with 15,000 miles on it. The guys Mom didn't know any better when her
son was killed and all she knew was it was a chevy and it was old. The Corvette
today is worth $60,000.

P.S. You can use it on those rare days when the waves are smaller or less than
overhead <:-I

	
	........Bud
-- 
Bud Carlson * System Manager * Paradise Isle Computing * bud@isle.pegasus.com

 Why did the Roman Empire collapse?  What is the Latin for office
 automation?
From: g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Mark Richard's new book
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:33:27 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cc.uwa.edu.au

Has anyone read  ' Mark Richards, A surfing Legend ' yet? I saw MR on the
Ray Martin show yesterday and he was plugging his new Autobiography. If
someones read it could they E-mail me or give a quick review on the Net
to tell me if its worth buying. It costs about $24.95.


I think MR's bottom turn is his trademark move which made him a surfing legend
back in the 80's. He executes it so well that the speed he generates from it
makes the rest of the wave easy! 

Bundy.
From: p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:22:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacklabel.japan.sun.com

In article <26257@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>
> 7.) How many years of education have you completed?
> Grade School (rubber mat)       [ ]
> High School    (short board)    [x]
> College            (longboard)  [x]

> More               (bodyboard)  [ ]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

	Brian,

	I like the way you perceive bb'ing !!!!!
>
	>>Thanks for you support.

kp
From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Florida waves?
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:58:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Just heard from a friend that the Melbourne/Cocoa beach area has been getting
some pretty good surf (headhigh+) for about 8 straight days.  Any truth to
this rumor?  Let's hear the surf stories............
 
					Derek

	-- pRaY fOr SuRf !!! --
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:07:43 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
`O.K. I have an idea that might make most of us happy as clams.
`The reason why posting gif files or any other images to non picture
`groups is frowned upon is to keep the images in groups that can be
`restricted by administrators. By centralizing them you can choose not

I agree with this part above, a mailing list would be a solution to
the net administrator censorship problem.

Bud then goes on with this:
`I post something and get flamed. I want to kick someones ass but out of fear
`off showing off and looking like an asshole, I wimp out and apologize instead
`of cremating the guy/gal and showing who and what I am made of. (On the net
`none of this means anything anyway cause you almost never meet and can say

I don't agree with this part. If you post something it better be something
you would have the balls to say to a person's face. If not don't post
it.  I don't want this to become a flame-mail list. If it is count me
out.
   O                                        You don't stop surfing
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
   \___________________________
			     \\
From: bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Buying a longboard
Summary: I hope this is the end of this thread !!
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:41:18 GMT
Followup-To: junk
Organization: Quantum Reef Project (Big Island of Hawaii)

mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts) wrote:
>In article <1992Oct7.073320.10749@paradise.pegasus.com> 
.....
>>		3) Was it left out in the sun to yellow ?
>
.....
>
>BTW, On old boards, the color is not in an under the glass spray. It
>is in the form of a pigmented resin which is on top of the regular
>glass and resin (which is in turn over the foam/balsa/etc). So, even
>if the board in question is looking diseased and yellow, it can be
>made to look really good by the application of a layer of the old 
>pigmented stuff. 

	WRONG man !!! 

I was speaking of the foam yellowing and really, only inland types ever
put pigment on their boards. Real surfers always wanted their boards
clear. (\.. How else could they show off their radical and egostistical
stringer designs ?? You can sand, paint, kiss a toad but, once your
foam yellows it aint coming back. Believe me I know from experience, I
have seen and own boards that have yellow foam and they have never seen
the likes of pigment.  When they were knew they were white as snow.


>
>Mike
>"A brit in yank land"

-- 
Bud Carlson * System Manager * Paradise Isle Computing * bud@isle.pegasus.com

 Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind when he has a
 hole in his head.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: aed@netcom.com (Andrew Davidson)
Subject: Re: The longboard is mine!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:38:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.211714.18457@samba.oit.unc.edu> Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark) writes:
>
>So, what do I do now?  I would like to fix it up.  Not a full
>restoration, just fix all the dings right, and redo the nose and
>tail.  Can I do this, or is this better left to an "expert"?  Bud 
>Carlson mentioned that with the serial # I could find out who
>originally purchased the board. So Bud, how do I go about this?
>

If I where you I would find some duct tape and start looking for
waves! In the long term, if you pay some one else to fix it, figure
about 25 $ to fix each hole on the rail. Concidering what you paid for
the board, I think this would be a good opurtunity to learn how to fix
it your self. (my boards are always breaking) the first couple of
times you try your own ding repair you will probably wind up with a
less than perfect job. no big deal on a $40 board.

Andy
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Subject: Re: A small surf !
Reply-To: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:06:17 GMT

Hi, Nig!

In article <1992Oct14.014200.4327@cs.uow.edu.au> u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) writes:

>It had  been a whole week since my last surf and as such was keen to
>get a wave in.

Can't blame you, it'd been more like two weeks for me.

>He is a total beginner and just practiced paddling around and
>catching white-wash.

We all did that, once.  It gets hard to remember when you drop into a
quick one and there's some buoy bobbing around right where you need to
turn to make the section though...

>There wasn't much surf about.

Too bad!  It was finally somewhat sizable up here (despite Jay's report
from last friday which I must have totally misjudged, it looked poor
from my house).  Not too much, but chest to head high sets.  I surfed N.
Maroubra on Tuesday, and S. Maroubra today.  Looks like quite a south
swell.  Shifty peaks today, which kept the mild crowd spread out,
mostly.  For some reason I was in rhythm today, and managed to irritate
those surfing near my by getting the best waves.  (*Grin*).

>Got in a few floaters.

Likewise.  Well, one.  Tuesday.  But then, I don't usually try for
them.

>Tried a few re-entries.But once I got it up there I'd stall and
>nose dive coming back down.

Are reentries what we used to call off-the-lips?  Am I showing my age?
Managed to get a couple, stuffed up the first, but snapped a few later.

>My 6'8" is just no good in small waves.

I took my 5'10" out Tuesday which was a mistake, as it was a bit choppy.
Would've been okay today, but the 6'6" was working fine. 

-- Clark

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           "A California Yankee in the Land of Oz"
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: dlategan@cs1.uct.ac.za (D LATEGAN)
Subject: re:surf in the RSA
Keywords: windy now,good yesterday
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:37:25 GMT

Just a bit of a surf report from Cape Town (South Africa..)

Yesterday the swell was really good and clean with a crisp South-Easterly
blowing which is pretty much off-shore in most of the good spots.
The swell was large enough to get many of the winter breaks going
and those spots which are developing summer banks weren't really
handling the unexpected swell.There were good barrels to be found
at "Krons" (Kommetjie) but really,most spots were pretty good.

We often get good waves this time of year because we get winter swells
with summer winds which provide classic waves at spots like Elands Bay
and Outer Kom.The water is colder in summer on the Atlantic coast
'cause the predominant wind is a strong offshore.

I haven't been down to the beach today but the wind looks fairly
strong so I fear the swell will be dying soon (..please not before
the weekend....)

Anyway,hang in there....

          _____
        /      \
      /    (---)
    /      \   DEON LATEGAN (this is supposed to look like a really
  /         \ ____            gnarly wave....right..)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Organization: HP,NADO Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:32:13 GMT

In article <jackson.16.718461469@cc.und.ac.za> jackson@cc.und.ac.za (Clive Jackson) writes:
> Does anyone remember the surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now? I'm curious as to 
> whether there really is any surf along the Vietnamese Coast and whether 
> there have ever been any reports on surfaris or surf spots.

does anyone remember? Sheesh. get a life. the best scene in one of the most
awesome movies ever and you wonder if anyone remembers it. robert duval was
god-like in this flick. "smells like... like...  victory." too good.


-- 
       daniel hinojosa. email -=> hinojosa@nado.hp.com | Santa Clara, CA
   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Jesus Saves!... But Gretzky gets the rebound. He Shoots. He SCOOORES!!!
From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Need surf info on breaks in North Carolina (Wrightsville beach)
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:27:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



I'm going down to visit a friend of mine who works at the University of North
Carolina, Wilmington NC.  I wondering if any locals, student/faculty surfers
there could point me to some good surf breaks.  How about some good surf spots
in the area?  Looks like the Wrightsville beach pennisula could be pretty
good.  The postcard I got shows some nice jetty breaks.  What's the water/air
temp in mid-October?  Thanx for all the info, and may a nice offshore hurricane
swell come to you (and me while I'm down there!!!)
 
					Derek

			email to -> wojciech@ossek.nrl.navy.mil
			or post here
 
	--- Pray for Surf! ---
From: rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:43:17 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

>> In article <1992Oct2.090421.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
> Im talking about the the culling of Sharks which interfere with humans
>not unrestrained destruction on a species.
>Dont take me for a ride mate, Im not a 9 year old grommet with zits, I believe
>that dangerous Sharks which present a risk to the human race should be killed
>or relocated to another area the same way a grizzly bear would be moved away
>from a country town. I dont think the senseless killing of Sharks is the right
>approach but if those sharks just had a feeding frenzy on my home beach then
>I would be the first one out there with a hook and wire trace.  
>
>Bundy.

Hey BUNDY, just how do you plan on identifying the Exact number of, much less, 
which ones are the killers?

I guess you could always ask them first.

Bob.
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Buying a longboard
Date: 7 Oct 1992 05:43:02 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <1992Oct06.005004.6266@microsoft.com> johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake) writes:

Stuff about buying long boards deleted....

>
>So I say score it and quick.  Another cool old board to score is a balsa.
>A couple of my friends have some of those and I am very envious.
>
>John H. Lake
>

Ah.. now you've got me reminiscing, my first board was a solid balsa
plank, can't remember whether it was 10 or 12 feet long, those were the
"good old day's", no legropes, no crowds, surf pumping all the time
:-), surf sessions lasting  5 or 6 hours,
was it real, or is it just that "time, like distance, lends beauty" :-).

I remember surfing Point Impossible on the plank, and looking enviously
at the outside reef, which no-one used to surf, it seemed so far out
the back, to think it went unridden for so many year's.... ah well,
back to reality, 6'8" x 2.2", paddle's like a submarine, little
grommet's always hassling to steal the inside position, almost makes
you want to go back to balsa :-(, 

Cheer's,
Lud.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson)
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Organization: Quantum Reef Project (Big Island of Hawaii)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:05:56 GMT

kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) wrote:
> I don't want this to become a flame-mail list. If it is count me
>out.
>   O                                        You don't stop surfing
>   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
>   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
>  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
>   \___________________________
>			     \\

O.K. Once again I was close, but on the wrong tack. 

Well there has been an incredible response to the posting about the group but
I have changed my mind and want to propose something more suitable than the
list concept. With the many received requests to be on a list most said 
"only if it contains pure pictures". I only brought up the idea of discussions
to get things going. What I am proposing is the following:


	__________________________________________________________
		
		 Surfing and (misc) Pictures Archive Server
	__________________________________________________________

I will provide an archive for contributions and retrieval of any gif files
that contain views of the following:

	Boardsurfing, Bodysurfing, Windsurfing, Water Skiing, Snow Skiing,
	   Sailing, Underwater Shots


Pictures can be submitted to the archive by mailing them to the following
address: (start mailing them in now)

	picture-submit@isle.pegasus.com

	
Pictures will be retrieved my sending a mail message to the following
address:

	picture-server@isle.pegasus.com

Questions about the server can be sent to:

	postmaster@isle.pegasus.com


I will post a message to the group as soon as the server is operational.
Until then requests will go to /dev/null, so don't waste our time.

Pictures will be mailed to you within 24 hours of your request and will
be uuencoded by default unless you specify another encoder. The choices
will be:

	uuencode (default)
	btoa     

Files will be split in ~50K parts and several re-packers will be
provided on request.  Once the server is up and running a message in
the following form will send you an index of all the available
pictures:

using your favorite mailing program addressed to the server 

BEGIN 				### Optional - in case you send some junk
PATH path.to.your.house@home 	### Optional - you want to guarantee the return
INDEX or			### 
SEND INDEX or
SEND INDEX/SNOW or
SEND INDEX/LONGBOARD or 	### I tink you get da message eh brah
END				### Optional - in case you have .sigs

Occasionally you will receive a confirmation without the pictures. This should
only happen when the server is overloaded with requests and yours is in the
queue. If enough requests come in, I will include sources and some binaries
for the more scanners and viewers.
-- 
Bud Carlson * System Manager * Paradise Isle Computing * bud@isle.pegasus.com


 Necessity is a mother.