HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Having a good day...can you?
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:07:52 GMT
Followup-To: ba.singles
Organization: Adobe Systems

I've been reading the last set of posts this morning, and man, it's like
people are all happied out after the holidays.  The prospect of Chicks and
Dudes '93 is rather chilling with all this bitter sarcasm going on.

This is not a "let's all play nice, kids" post, but really, isn't anyone
happy about things?  Is everyone but me burnt out from the holidays, having
to deal with family, credit card limits, and ice on windshields?  I
encourage anyone in a good mood to post, and tell us all "I'm having a good
day".

Frankly, I feel like a wierdo to be in a good mood around here.  (there, I
opened myself up to an onslaught...let's see who responds...)  Anyway, just
another reminder too about my "Welcoming the big 30!" party on 1/23/93 in
Santa Clara.  At least four birthday girls and boys (2 are turning 30,
including Trish) will be present - you should be too!  E-mail me for more
information!

--- grismore@adobe.com --- original thoughts, not my employer's --- 
--- "are we all out of Powdered Toast (TM) again, Stimpy? - Ren ---
From: jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Translation (was: Re: Having a good day...can you?)
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:14:03 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <grismore-080193105622@macb055.mv.us.adobe.com> grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore) writes:
>In article <C0Fvv4.7u8@amd.com>, jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn) wrote:
[...Doug's drivel deleted...]
>> Translation: "Somebody please flame me so that I know that I am alive, am
>> 		posting worthless drivel which proves that I have enough 
>> 		cortical activity to press consequtive keys on a keyboard, 
>> 		and I can thereby draw some attention to myself."
[...]
>Nice to know I was right about something...I was complaining about how many
>of the ba.singles regulars have to be hostile view everything negatively. 
>Impressive that John jumped right in there and validated my test.  Have no

Why, thank you, but you are not my type.  As everyone knows I do so want to 
impress people, but I am curious about something -- what is it makes you 
think that there is anything hostile or negative about my text?  As _I_ see 
it, I have provided the widely-sought public service of helping you, and 
people like you, make an ass of yourself in a public medium for the sake 
of its entertainment value.  Perhaps you don't like that characterization.
If so, then why do you write as if you haven't achieved the cognitive grasp 
of a dung beetle?   

>need to draw attention to myself - I'm happy about me and what I stand for,
>I don't need anyone else to validate me.  Again, part of the idea behind my

Ah, I see -- your preference for anonimity and your peculiar brand of 
leadership certainly shine through in the act of posting a pair of towering 
tributes to net.inanity to nodes throughout the bay area.  Well done, Doug.  

Perhaps it will lift your spirits a bit to know that you are not much 
different than uncounted hordes of net.dweebies who came before you and 
accomplished the same, uh, 'unique', achievement:  write a stoooopid 
article, get flamed for it, then complain tearfully that the NET is the 
last great bastion of evil and negative people and that you '..will *sniff*
(nose in air) have nothing more to do with it *sniff*...'
 
You are laboring under a misconception, son.  No one cares about you enough
to be worried that they may not live up to your sense of ASCII morality. 
You may, if you wish, expect everyone who reads this to post and reply in a
manner that suits *your* ideas of taste, variety, and protocol, but I 
suspect that you will not have much success at that.

>Obviously that's something we don't share, John.

And I, for one, am thankful, Doug. 
--
J. M. Wincn                           jmw@angelo.amd.com (408) YUP-BEER 
               Standard DISCLAIMER available on request. 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Organization: QQQCLC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:09:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.025244.1412@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.023014.4181@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>>>Des, is to not degenerate into snide, nasty, ad hominium attacks but still
>>>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>					Whuzzat mean?
>>
>>	It's an ad hominem attack with aluminum siding installed by a
>>Brit.
>
><slapping forehead>  And here I thought it was something southern
>people ate for breakfast.

	Nope. Those are ad hominies.

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:12:13 GMT

In article <76145@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>
>Des, is to not degenerate into snide, nasty, ad hominium attacks but still
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
					Whuzzat mean?
Somebody even said I did it once.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: nsingh@hqsun5.oracle (Naunihal Singh)
Subject: Re: At least it provoked conversation...
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:05:48 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


>In article <grismore-171292163808@130.248.208.99> grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore) writes:
>>I've been present for a
>>couple childbirths (none my own) 

>Oh?  You weren't?  <grin>  Are you sure? 

You weren't present for your own childbirth ? If you weren't there
when you were born then who was ?
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Chick 'n Dudes '93 - The Boink
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 12:36:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>
>I just left Harry's Hofbrau.  We have a private room reserved from
>6:00PM to 10:00PM on Saturday, January 16 so it looks like the first
>boink of 1993 is underway.
>
	Argh. Would love to go and say hi to the folks, but I have a symphony
date that night. Would you all promise to have a snakebite for me? It's half 
Spaten beer, half Blackthorn cider -- would go well with the heavy food at 
Harry's! ;-)
---
/bruce 		(betting $5.00 on the Niners by 7)
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:27:41 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <27754@sybase.sybase.com> tim@sybase.com (Tim Wood) writes:
>In article <76145@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>
>>To [Desiree], an "enemy" made on the net extends into real life - 
>>you completely
>>forgot that the net isn't real life, and that people often display completely
>>different personalities on the net than they do in person.
>>
>
>I think this may be the single most destructive assumption that people
>have about the role of the net.  The net is a meeting of minds.  Those
>who repeatedly post in hostile, inane, <place other adjectives of interpersonal
>distaste here> ways only display themselves as marginal people.  I have
>a nice list of people to avoid at any future boink that they and I
>happen to attend.
>
>One can't excuse an obnoxious personality with the plea that "it's only
>the net, we're just playing with our computers here, aren't we?"  I
>expect to be held to what I post (and email and say and do) and hold
>others to the same standard.  A lot of hostility could be avoided if
>people would act as if what they said and did and wrote mattered.

I disagree, and I stand by what I said.  Here's why:  While it is true that
the net is a meeting of minds, it is also more anonymous than a face-to-face
meeting with someone.  Things are said and done on the net that would never
even be imagined in person.  For example, if someone walks up to you and says
"You are a boring twit, and I don't want to have anything to do with you.
Leave me alone!" in public, they would likely get a lot of strange looks and
probably be considered rude and obnoxious by others.  Yet this same behavior
is tolerated, even encouraged, on the net.

Another example:  Suppose you meet some MOTAS on the net, and things get,
um, "steamy", either in email or on the phone.  You finally meet, and the
reality doesn't match what you have built up in your own minds.  Shit
happens, as they say.  The fact is, on the net, you get to see only a very
small part of a person's personality, while in person, you get to experience
the whole person.  IMO, expecting to hold others to what they post and write
is somewhat naive.  Things are written in the heat of the moment that would
never be said in person.  I have finally met several people on the net with
whom I had had an adversarial net relationship, yet we ended up becoming good
friends after meeting in person.  So, no, the net isn't real life, and
anyone who imagines otherwise is, to paraphrase Robert Heinlein, "living in a
dreamworld".
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: craigbr@informix.com (Craig Browning)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Singles services - Together
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:04:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: craigbr@cheetah

I bet there would be a lot of people interested in any experiences
ba.singles members have had with singles matchmaking services.

I can only comment from experience on one type, the 900-newspaper ads;
I didn't get the best response, a handful of calls to an ad I placed,
and usually no responses from calls to ads which I hear often get many
dozens of calls.

I spoke with a company called 'Together' for information.

They aren't cheap, the cheapest package lists at $1995, $1595 with the
'first-day' sign-up (you have to buy the day you meet them for this),
with discounts to that negotiable - and this is for 5 (you can talk them
into adding a couple to that) referrals, at one per month.

The justification for the cost is their claim to do compatibility matching
on a number of personality issues and interests. They say they don't use
computers at all, and that they have 8000 members in the bay area.

I do not know any way to confirm that. They claim to be more oriented towards
matching for relationships than Great Expectations, which they paint as a
dating service (and members of GE I've talked to agree).

Would anyone like to tell about their experience with this or anuother
introduction service?
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Craig Browning
Regency Support
Informix Software, Inc.
From: jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Aww shit! ...another one(was: Re: Oxymorons, and other important..)
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:12:03 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1993Jan5.234231.21202@oracle.us.oracle.com> akao@.com (Adam Kao) 
babbles incessantly:
>
>*plonk*, loosely, means "you are so clueless that it would take me a
>long time to explain to you how clueless you are," which applies to
>everything posted to this thread by.... 

[a lot of pointless babbling mercifully deleted here]

*Sigh* ...yet *another* net.ignoramus who presumes that verbose, pointless,  
idiotic rambling somehow demonstrates a superior ability at artful insult  
and intelligent conversation.  Where do they all come from, anyway?!?  

Listen up, kid: if you're going for 'incredible stupidity' at least *try* 
to be funny. 
--
J. M. Wincn                           jmw@angelo.amd.com (408) YUP-BEER 
               Standard DISCLAIMER available on request.
From: mlw@cisco.com (Monica Waldman)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Followup-To: misc.test
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:21:39 GMT
Organization: ()
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: lager.cisco.com

In article <1993Jan4.190914.28635@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
>You send followups to talk.bizarre but never read it yourself?

There is no law that says you must read the newsgroup(s) you set the 
Followup-To: line to.

>Ask drieux.

Seems Adam is incapable of answering a question directed at him.  Or is it
that he doesn't know the answer?

-- 
standard disclaimer, etc. ad nauseum

"If your opponent picks up a hammer, you need to pick up a meat-ax and
cut off his arm"  -- Bill Clinton, 1981
From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Apology, and Good-Bye
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:40:01 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <1993Jan8.123014.20082@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>
>PS: If I were Diane, and if I were intelligent, 

But you contradict yourself.

Charleen
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:31:21 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan5.031747.27629@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.230041.10438@fico.uucp> ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
>>Well, I think Ed Carp and Will Stevees (?spelling, well you know who I
>>mean) are very suited to one another.  Maybe they should hang out toget-
>>her and get lives.
>>
>>I had just HAD to get in on this!  The score so far is Desiree 34, Ed 0.
>>Looking forward to the rest of the war!
>
>Great!  Now if all these people will show up for....
>
>		Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - The Boink
> 
>We can all watch them battle it out in person.

$10 says that Des won't even acknowledge my presence.  On the other hand, I
will smile at her and say hello.  Unlike some people, I was brought up to
believe that ignoring other people was rude, tacky, and in very poor taste.
Open hostility in public is rude and uncouth.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: akao@.com (Adam Kao)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:00:36 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1993Jan3.071903.8085@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:

>If you disagree with Libertarian views, argue them in the apropriate forum.

Wahahahahaha!  *plonk*

Adam
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Turning 30!!
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 93 13:00:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>
>Then again, I could be wrong.
>--Alex (alexm@wet.uucp)
>
>"Ah, but I was so much older then./I'm younger than that now."
>	--Bob Dylan, "My Back Pages"

	Ohhhhh. Perfect! Do you think if those netters who are
fighting it out in the flame pit might be willing take a hint from Dylan?

------
/bruce  [Hmmm. speaking of turning 30 and the generation gap...]

"Come mothers and fathers / Througout the land / And dont criticize / What you
cant understand / Your sons and your daughters / Are beyond your command /
Your old road is / Rapidly agin' . / Please get out of the new one / If you
cant lend your hand / For the times they are a-changin'." - Robert Zimmerman
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: PMS
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:12:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1if0noINNig1@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
>Hi Kids,
 
How appropriate.

|I teach a class on Monday nights and my students want to know about PMS and its
|effects from a male and female point of view.

Why don't you ask Des.
From: jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Translation (was: Re: Having a good day...can you?)
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:47:27 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <grismore-050193101048@gutzon.mv.us.adobe.com> grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore) writes:

>Frankly, I feel like a wierdo to be in a good mood around here.  (there, I
>opened myself up to an onslaught...let's see who responds...)  Anyway, just

Translation: "Somebody please flame me so that I know that I am alive, am
		posting worthless drivel which proves that I have enough 
		cortical activity to press consequtive keys on a keyboard, 
		and I can thereby draw some attention to myself."

There.  Happy now?  
--
J. M. Wincn                           jmw@angelo.amd.com (408) YUP-BEER 
               Standard DISCLAIMER available on request.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:01:43 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan2.105936.2720@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
>In article <76040@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
|>Oh, my GOD!!!  Is it *really* Oleg "smouldering dark eyes" Kiselev??  My, my,
|
|Ease off on the compliments, Ed, I am not available.
|
|>I thought you had died or been fired or
|>something, after that last little rucus at Locus.  
|
|All I did was post on the NET that IBM's PC/RT was an abortion.  Not enough
|reason to fire someone.  But you'd know more about that than I would.
 
Maybe if you would have posted to talk.politics.abortion instead it 
wouldn't have been a problem.  Thanks for the warning about locus though.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 1993 23:36:23 PST
From: <RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Here Goes ANYBODY out there??

I don't even know if this is the right group or if there is one such.

I am an Indian( the genine article from asia not the misnamed native variety) g
rad student in final throes of giving birth to a thesis and a ph.d., graduating
 in may-june 1993. This business of graduate school and keeping the daily grind
 in order leaves no opportunity for someone like me to meet women. My habits ar
e sedentary and I don't go to bars etc.

I would love to get in touich with women of similiar interests, eastern
religion, cooking ,old movies, good tea  long walks  and this whole mysterious
wonderful exasperating thing called life and living.

anyone interested please send me e-mail and absolutely no flames will be respon
ded to.

rajagopalan.....If this has anything to do with SLAC it is news to me.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Condom
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:32:03 GMT

In article <184912@pyramid.pyramid.com> mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.220708.22008@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>In article <1iv6nbINN100@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
>>>Can anyone tell me why they don't make padded condoms?
>>>
>>
>>Not goin' near this one.  Nope.  Not me.  Ain't gonna touch it.
>>Uh-uh.  No way, Jose!  I'm outta here.
>
>CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NowwaitaminutehereWoo!!!  I notice *you* didn't venture an opinion.
What's your position on the padded condom?

Did I really say something that punny?
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:39:32 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

Brilliant repartee, sir!  I, too, am bothered by Oleg's mild replies.  Even I,
who has tangled with Oleg more times than I can remember, have to admire and
respect his command of the verbal castigation and bitingly witty sarcasm he has
shown on countless occasions in alt.flame, alt.sex, and innumerable other
newsgroups.  Truthfully, I expected more from the famous Oleg.

Desiree is a pitiful excuse for a would-be net.flamer.  The art of the flame,
Des, is to not degenerate into snide, nasty, ad hominium attacks but still
remain witty and sarcastic, completely demolishing your opponent in the
process, thereby earning the applause and kudos of your admiring cotierie.
You have obviously not mastered this yet - nor have you learned that usenet
isn't real life.  Your crude, snide, insulting personality extends into
real life - a personality that should confine itself to alt.flame.would-be.

To you, an "enemy" made on the net extends into real life - you completely
forgot that the net isn't real life, and that people often display completely
different personalities on the net than they do in person.

I once heard from a friend that Oleg took my jibes in alt.flame *seriously* -
I hope he has learned better.  Des obviously hasn't.  Sad...
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:27:00 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan4.230041.10438@fico.uucp> ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:

>Well, I think Ed Carp and Will Stevees (?spelling, well you know who I
>mean) are very suited to one another.  Maybe they should hang out toget-
>her and get lives.

Whoever *that*. is.  And, thank you, but I already have a life.  And a clue.
*And* a grip, too.  But thanks for asking.

>I had just HAD to get in on this!  The score so far is Desiree 34, Ed 0.
>Looking forward to the rest of the war!

To paraphrase Clint Eastwood, "Funny ... I never thought of it as a war..."
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:52:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.023014.4181@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>>Des, is to not degenerate into snide, nasty, ad hominium attacks but still
>>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>					Whuzzat mean?
>
>	It's an ad hominem attack with aluminum siding installed by a
>Brit.

<slapping forehead>  And here I thought it was something southern
people ate for breakfast.