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From: aggarwal@nisc.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Subject: AGS boot process
Date: 16 Dec 92 9:16:50 EST
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I was booting version 9.1(1) Communication server software on an
ASM with no NV-RAM.. the boot process is weird:

1. The ASM booted the cisco11-csc3 image right away on power-cycle
2. It then reloaded using the newly booted image
3. It then went into a config dialogue where I had to enter the
   the ethernet address and host name, etc. and confirm the info.
4. It then loaded the network-confg and mozart-confg over the net
   without further prompting.

Why didn't it ask for the network-confg in step-3 ??


 -vikas                                                     (609) 258-2403
 vikas@jvnc.net	                                  ...rutgers!jvncnet!vikas
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Mozart>sh hard
CS Software (CS3-K), Version 9.1(1), SOFTWARE [fc1]
Copyright (c) 1986-1992 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Mon 19-Oct-92 13:42 by jthomas

System Bootstrap, Version 4.4(2) 

Mozart uptime is 24 minutes
System restarted by reload
System image file is "cisco11-csc3", booted via tftp from 128.121.50.7
Host configuration file is "mozart-confg", booted via tftp from 128.121.50.2
Network configuration file is "network-confg", booted via tftp from 128.121.50.2

CSC3 (68020) processor with 4096K bytes of memory.
X.25 software.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
16 terminal lines.
Configuration register is 0x109

r2d2> more syslog
Dec 16 07:32:10 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: Searching for 7129fe10
Dec 16 07:32:10 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: Matched by hardware addr
Dec 16 07:32:10 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: request from mozart for ''
Dec 16 07:32:10 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: replyfile /usr/sun/bootfile/network-confg
Dec 16 07:32:10 nisc bootpd[15675]: from 161.58.1.2.
Dec 16 07:32:10 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: reply gateway ip (giaddr) 161.58.1.2
Dec 16 07:32:10 nisc bootpd[15675]: (re)reading /etc/bootptab
Dec 16 07:32:10 nisc bootpd[15675]: request from mozart for ''
Dec 16 07:32:10 nisc bootpd[15675]: replyfile /usr/sun/bootfile/network-confg
Dec 16 07:32:10 nisc bootpd[15675]: reply gateway ip (giaddr) 161.58.1.2
Dec 16 07:32:11 r2d2 tftpd[10924]: (main): Starting tftpd
Dec 16 07:32:11 r2d2 tftpd[10924]: (1)request from 161.58.1.5 for file cisco11-csc3
...
Dec 16 07:32:36 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: request from mozart for ''
Dec 16 07:32:36 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: replyfile /usr/sun/bootfile/network-confg
Dec 16 07:32:36 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: reply gateway ip (giaddr) 161.58.1.2
Dec 16 07:32:36 nisc bootpd[15675]: from 161.58.1.2.
Dec 16 07:32:39 nisc bootpd[15675]: request from mozart for ''
Dec 16 07:32:39 nisc bootpd[15675]: replyfile /usr/sun/bootfile/network-confg
Dec 16 07:32:39 nisc bootpd[15675]: reply gateway ip (giaddr) 161.58.1.2
Dec 16 07:32:43 r2d2 bootpd[10923]: from 161.58.1.2.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: bill@wrangler.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy)
Subject: ASM-CS questions
Organization: W. L. Kennedy Jr. & Associates
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:06:02 GMT

This article doesn't really belong here, so I apologize to the folks who
prefer the technical discussion.  If my questions weren't crucial to what
I'm working on, I would not violate nettiquette.

I'm fast aground on some questions about the ASM-CS and I can not get my
local sales prevention rep or anyone from CA to answer them.  I have to
turn in a purchase recommendation next week and can't recommend Cisco
without the answers.  I've got all the price and other sales info I need,
but I need a couple of technically oriented answers.

Hopefully someone outside Cisco can answer the questions, they should be easy.

o   How does the ASM-CS physically connect to the big iron to run tn3270?
o   Is there an aggregate bit rate limitation on the CSC-16 serial card?
o   Can I open a socket connection to a serial port and dialog with it over
    the socket connection (reverse telnet?)?
o   Can I do scripted dialing for an outdial using the ASM-CS as a modem pool?

I've already disqualified other terminal server vendors, hep me, somebody
please hep me...
-- 
Bill Kennedy            bill@WLK.COM  | Where there's a will there's a won't.
                                      | NAPA auto parts commercial.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: aggarwal@nisc.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Subject: Re: Booting compressed images
Date: 15 Dec 92 9:05:45 EST
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>    Can a compressed image be loaded into Flash Memory and then be successfully
>    booted (software revision 9.0 or 9.1)?
> 
> Only if the same compressed image could be netbooted by the ROMs.
> 
> Tony
 
Is there any formula for determining which ROM revisions can netboot
compressed images and which can't ?

	-vikas
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: powell@wraith.netops.gtefsd.com (Mike Powell "GTE FSD Net Mgr")
Subject: High Speed Modem Distribution on an ASM
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division (Telecom)
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:49:20 GMT

I am about to connect 12 Telebit T3000s to an ASM/3-96. I already have
twelve Telebit T2500s on the terminal server. No other devices will be
attached to this terminal server.

My question is: what is the best way to distribute the modems on the
serial ports to get the best throughput?

The CSC-16s have 16 serial ports with eight chips that appear to service
the ports. How are they distributed? does the first chip support ports
1 and 2 or does it support ports 1 and 8? does port speed matter?
If so at what speed does this become a problem? 38400?
I intend to run the ports at 57600.

Also, if I do not use all of the CSC-16s to attach the modems, would it
hurt performance if I left them in?

Thanks,
Mike
--
Mike Powell PPASEL
"It's hard to find router bits for your cisco"
Disclaimer: I speak for myself. No direct relation to the DUAT folks.
internet: powell@wraith.netops.gtefsd.com  Usenet: uunet!wraith.netops.gtefsd.com!powell
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
Subject: Booting compressed images
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:25:54 -0800
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   I guess what I need to ask is whether an image (as FTP'ed from
   ftp.cisco.com), run through the standard Unix 'compress' utility
   and then TFTP'ed to Flash Memory can be booted (or is there some
   special format for compressed images)?

The format is standard Unix compress.

Tony
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: billp@Syntex.COM (Bill Putney)
Subject: Re: Backbone in a box: how to mount all tho
Reply-To: billp@Syntex.COM
Organization: Syntex U.S.A. - Palo Alto, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:40:18 GMT

In article 7Jw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu, sweeny@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Brent Sweeny) writes:
>We (Indiana University) have grappled with this problem too, with 6 very-full
>AGS+s in 3 racks (the room from which the fiber goes to all of our campus
>buildings only reluctantly gave us room for 3 racks, so we had to fill them
>as efficiently as possible!)    We also looked for rackmounted AUI-to-FOIRL
>transceivers, but couldn't find what we wanted: primarily small width, with 
>LEDs on the opposite end of the AUI connector (so we could see them easily).
>
> ...
>   Brent Sweeny
>   Indiana University Computing Services
>   sweeny@indiana.edu
>

We had this same problem and Canary Communications is building rack
mounted FOIRL tranceivers for us (I think they are adding them to the 
general offering).

FYI - Canary Communications, Inc.
      1851 Zanker Road
      San Jose, CA  95112-4213
      Ph: (408) 453-9201

- Bill


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From: echan@cad736.intel.com (Eldon Chan ~)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: access-list for igmp packets
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:30:34 GMT
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Is there any easy way to allow only igmp packets from a particular host ?
At the same time, I still want to restrict other TCP/UDP ports. I know I
could do that for icmp easily.

Thanks.

Eldon
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: u4b08@lfkw2.bgm.link.com (David Cappello)
Subject: Novell Routes
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:19:37 EST
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Hello, I have some cisco routers and some novell servers.
       that looks something like this:


          Novell server-1                          Novell server-3
                |                                        |
          AGS1--|--ethernet--AGS2-----56kb--/---MGS------|----
                              |
                              |--------------ethernet----------
                        remote bridge
                              |
                              /
                             56kb
                              |
                        remote bridge
                              |               Novell Server-2
                       -------|---ethernet----------|-------------

My question is how can I make the novell server-2 look like its 3 or
4 router hops away so that all the people that are connected to the
ags2 router and the "bridged" leg connect to novell server-1 ?  I guess
I want to controll the number of "hops" it takes to access a novell 
server.

thanx...
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From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: ASM question (ip host, login-string global commands)
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:28:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine


Hello.

I have a client on campus that would like a "menu"  to appear on the
screen of a terminal connected to an ASM [running TS3-S 8.3(5)
and TS2-R 8.3(5)]. The menu states to type "a" for one host, and "b"
for another host.

The menu is produced using the BANNER command. The selections "a" and
"b" are defined using the ip host command such as:

.
.
.
ip host a 128.200.xxx.yyy          !where xxx.yyy are valid subnet.host
ip host b 128.200.xxx.yyy
.
.
.


This part works. I.E. when the client types "a" or "b" the correct
host is reached.

I would  like to have a login-string command start upon a successfule
connection to the host.

Is there a way to have the successful connection to one of these two
hosts invoke a login-string command? Is there an equivalent command to
the ip host command for ip-names or cnames? (this so that the
login-string will work.)

Better yet, is there a better way to perform this? ;-).  I have an 8.3
manual. I haven't been able to find the answer I want.

Michael S. Richey    Internet: mrichey@uci.edu      (714) 856-8374
University of California, Irvine     Network and Telecomm Services
2209 Central Plant        Irvine,    CA  92717

The world is older and bigger than we are. This is a hard truth for
some folks to swallow. - Edward Abbey
From: venkat@cs.concordia.ca (VENKATESH)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Help needed in in eliminating delay in cisco box
Keywords: cisco
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:01:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

Hi,
	We use Cisco Terminal servers to transfer data between PC and Unix.

	While transferring blocks of data from PC to Unix, the Cisco
	box introduces delay of about .5 sec for every block of data before
	it transmits the block to unix. This we observed using LanWatch.
	The delay does not happen when data is transferred from Unix to PC. 
	Could someone help me in eliminating this delay in cisco box. We use 
	19200 baud rate.

	We also send a special dispatch character(3 (^c)) at end of each block
	for the cisco box to dispatch immediately. We set the dispatch-character
	to ^c and dispatch timeout to 50msec in cisco line configuration.

Thanks in advance.
Venkates.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: jmoreno@dit.upm.es (Jose Ignacio Moreno Novella)
Subject: Frame Relay Question
Organization: Dept. Ingenieria de Sistemas Telematicos, UPM, Madrid, Spain.
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:29:19 GMT



Hello,

I'm going to test Frame Relay over my Switch (S_2000, Netcomm). I'm new in
FR environment and I have a question:

My test environment is:


	 -------	 -------	 -------
	|	|   FR	|	|   FR	|	|
	|cisco_1|-------|Switch	|-------|cisco_2	|
	|	|	|	|	|	|
	 -------	 -------	 -------



The maximum frame size of the switch is non-configurable and is fixed at 2048 
bytes while the maximum frame size of the cisco is 8 Kbytes. 


How can I change the default Maximum Frame size to 2048 in cisco systems ?.
Is it possible ?



Thanks.

J.Ignacio.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: Donald R. Proctor     (510/596-3828) <sybase!donp@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: ARP Cache Timeout Value 
             <9212160524.AA19106@wolf.cisco.com> 
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:58:33 -0800
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> The reason the default is set to 4 hours is simply that's what seemed like
> a reasonable value when the ARP code was written (5 or 6 years ago).  Some
> tens of thousands of routers later, after very few questions about that
> default value, it still seems reasonable for a default.  I don't see any
> problem with lowering your timeout to 15 minutes.

> If your hosts were conformant to the Host Requirements (RFC-1123), you
> could change them at will, and not worry about the ARP timeout at all,
> because RFC-1123 calls for hosts to send a 'gratuitous' Broadcast ARP reply
> upon startup.  That way if they've had their MAC address change since their
> last presence on the net, cached values will be update> d.  Our routers do
> this when we startup and when we change our interface MAC addresses (e.g.,
> when DECNet is configured).

>   -- Jim

I've found 1800 seconds (30 minutes) to be a good compromise for the
arp cache timeout.

In a large network, you are bound to have "duplicate IP address" problems
every once in a while.  

For example, if someone tries to boot a "rogue" machine on that for some
reason happens to be configured with the IP address of a legitimate host
elsewhere on the network, the router will replace the legitimate host's
hardware address with the hardware address of the rogue machine.

Interestingly, this will occur if the "rogue" machine is booted on _any_
network that is directly attached to a router that has an interface on
the legitimate host's network (assuming that the rogue host is RFC1123-
compliant!).

Under these circumstances, four hours is a rather stiff penalty to pay for
a moment of well-meaning insanity.  30 minutes is just painful enough in
most cases.

Don Proctor
Sybase, Inc. 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
From: dave o'leary <doleary@cisco.com>
Subject: FECN and BECN bits on Frame Relay
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:59:31 -0800
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In article <723936986.11433@news.Colorado.EDU> Tom_Karolyshyn@dgc.ceo.dg.com writes:
>
 (various header stuff deleted)
> 
> Promotion of FECN Bits for OSI and DECnet Phase IV
> Frame Relay switches have the capability of setting congestion bits 
> in packets (Forward Explicit Congestion Notification (FECN__ as they
> transit the Frame Relay Network.
> 
> This feature allows promotion of FECN bits from the Frame Relay
> network to the appropriate congestion management fields of OSI and
> DECnet Phase IV packets. The protocols are expected to recognize the
> fields and provide some congestion relief by whatever mechanism that
> is available to them. There are no new commands associated with this
> feature.
> 
>Do I read this correctly to mean that there is no benefit to TCP/IP 
>users, i.e., FECN bits have no use in a Frame-relay / TCP/IP 
>environment (like ours) ?
>Tom Karolyshyn
>Data General Corp
>Westboro, MA 01580   508-870-7936
>

Since IP, TCP, UDP, etc. have no "congestion control" bits in their
headers (like OSI and DECnet), there isn't anything the cisco can
really do.  I kind of wonder about the real value of this mechanism
anyway, since the switch is setting the FECN bits because of
congestion on an interface which may or may not be due to a specific
host (and protocol and session on that host), i.e. some Appletalk node
starts blasting away at another node across the frame relay through
the cisco routers.  A pair on DECnet hosts using the same set of links
could receive packets with the congestion bit set because the frame
relay switch sees too much stuff coming at it from the cisco router.
Most of it might be from the Appletalk node (which will never receive
any noticification of the FECN, directly or indirectly), and the frame
relay switch can't distinguish between the Appletalk node and the
DECnet node - it just sees stuff coming from the cisco.  The DECnet
node might back off but if the Appletalk node has more stuff to send
it will just hog whatever bandwidth the DECnet session has given up.
So the real problem is figuring out how to notify the offender that it
is causing a problem in a multiprotocol environment with different (or
no) means of congestion control per protocol and session.  Trying to 
perform flow and congestion control at multiple layers in the stack 
that don't know what the other layer is doing (wouldn't want to violate
that model :-) can cause unexpected results, in particular really bad
performance.  

dave o'leary		consulting engineer	    cisco systems
(714)261-5681	         Newport Beach, CA	doleary@cisco.com

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: fcolin@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Francois Regis Colin)
Subject: Re: Different Subnets on one Ethernet segment?
Originator: fcolin@jarny
Organization: Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:03:35 GMT


In article <2933165243.3.wk04331@psilink.com>, "Chris Martin" <wk04331@psilink.com> writes:
|> >DATE:   8 Dec 92 16:39:15 GMT
|> >FROM:   Art Berggreen <art@acc.com>
|> >
|> >In article <1992Dec8.091111.28843@penet.fi> an1880@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> >>
|> >>can anybody tell me, if I can have TWO different IP-subnets in ONE ethernet
|> >>segment???
|> >>
|> >>Just for illustration:
|> >>net: 141.33.0.0
|> >>subnet1: 141.33.128.0
|> >>subnet2: 141.33.160.0
|> >
|> >Sure, having multiple subnets on one wire is often used in many site's
|> >subnetting strategy.  Most routers can deal with assigning multiple
|> >subnets to their interfaces.  The biggest problem though, is that most
|> >host TCP/IP implementations only support one IP address on a physical
|> >interface, and thus they must be defined on only one subnet.  This
|> >means that traffic between subnets may have to be sent via a router.
|> >(BSD Unix derived implementations usually can use a direct subnet route
|> >to avoid the extra hop)
|> 
we have the same probleme mixing HPs, PCs
and we do that in a class B network:
 the netmask use a 8bits subnetting, we have found that a broadcast address
 larger than this netmask solve the probleme if the proper route where installed
ie:
Host1 141.33.128.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 141.33.255.255
host2 141.33.160.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 141.33.255.255

on host1: route add 141.33.160.0 141.22.128.1 1
on host2: route add 141.33.128.0 141.22.160.1 1
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Paul W. Brooks esq.)
Subject: Re: TDR error
Summary: Its OK
Keywords: TDR
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:59:45 GMT

In article <1gjra3INNosf@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au>, george@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au (George Travan) writes:
> 
> I have just put a PC on a thin wire ethernet network. It has a NI5210
> card with packet drivers.
> When the pc boots I get the following:
> 
> TDR:0 Clocks away is a short (not completely reliable)
> 
> When the boot finishes, I can telnet Ok and their seem be little or no
> errors (reflections/retransmissions) on the server.
> 
> Anyone know what this may be due to??

The message is supposed to be interpreted as "I _think_ 0 clocks away is
a short, but I'm not sure", not that the cardd is not reliable. I think
these messages were in early versions of the packet drivers, and the
author took them out because of queries such as yours. The card is
fine. The latest versions of the packet drivers (version 10) can be
retreived from the mirrors on archie.au (for Australian readers).
in directory '/micros/pc/garbo/pc/connect', file drivers.zip
(and files drivers{1-3}.zip for source and bits&pieces).

> 
> /Geo
> 
> 
> -- 
>                   George Travan "A Rebel Without A Clue!"                   
>                   E-mail: george@ache.mad.adelaide.edu.au                       
>      Phone: (Australia) +61 08 228 5968   Fax: (Australia) +61 08 224 0464  
>         University of Adelaide,G.P.O Box 498 Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5001       


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Uni. of N.S.W.     |If you have trouble sleeping, try lying on the end of
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AUSTRALIA          |                              - Mark Twain. 
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:2817 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5645
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 13:57:37 CET
From: <RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Different Subnets on one Ethernet segment?
Distribution: net
 <92346.092154RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET> <Bz9AIu.Dpp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

Fair comment on criticising my use of the word 'STANDARD' for RFCs.

No-one is going to send the 'net-police' around if you break them.

Cisco state on page 13-8 of the 8.3(3) manual....
"The ARP, proxy ARP, and RARP protocols, which are used on Ethernets, are
defined in RFCs 826, 1027, & 903, respectively."

I suggest you check which 'definition' your particular router manufacturer
uses for Proxy ARP, and send all flames to them.

Ray Hunter:
Cray Systems on contract to the European Space Agency
SMTP mail: RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET
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From: KJH6@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: RFI on Bridges (Reccommendations?)
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:07:21 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


  I am going to need several bridges (3 to start, and then probably another
four or five) in building a LAN we're planning.  Can anyone reccommend a
manufacturer/model that works well?  I need to be able to do address and
possibly protocol filtering as well.  Please include telephone numbers
so I can get in touch with manufacturers/dealers.  I'll summarize if anyone
wants a summary.

  Please e-mail responses to this account (kjh6@psuvm.psu.edu) or to
ken@@psuedvax.psu.edu.

  Thanks in advance for your help!

                                            - Ken Hoover
--
Penn State College of Education