From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet military training
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:33:46 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <Dec.30.19.32.11.1992.29935@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.213232.8829@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko) writes:
>
>
>> I spent some time (namely, 2 years) in the Sov.Army & can assure
>> everyone that the cited statement is not just stereotype. As for 
>> Chechen desire to secede from Russia - my opinion ( & of many my friends, 
>> too) that Russia would benefit greatly from "sanitary cordon" on 
>> the border of "Independent Chechnja". 
>
>Hmmm.. there's an idea :-).. Maybe the Estonians, Latvians
>and Lithuanians can start terrorizing everyone in the Red
>Army. Would that result in them being asked to leave and
>be independent :-)..
>

1st : Red Army is not the case (see below). They're worsening criminal 
situation in  the FSU (incl. Baltic rep.)

2nd : When it was the last time you've read something ? Baltic rep. are
independent already. Strong border is a good idea in that case too,
since considerable part of national product of this countries is 
obtained by smuggling valuble metals from Russia (tolerated by 
governments of those rep.) & selling to the west without paying export tariffs.
 
 

>
>
>>Want would you say about
>> politician who use the threats of terroristic actions against Russians 
>> as a tool for pressuring Russian government ? This is precisely what the
>> head of this "independent republic" general Dudaev did repeatedly in his
>> interviews to Russian media. Not to mention mafia structures formed 
>> by the citizens of "free Chechnia" in many Russian citys. 
>
>The kind of statement made by Dudaev is obviously stupid.

I agree (see below) Chechnya does not have external borders & they're 
taking advantage of one feature of Russian character -  getting angry
slowly. However, this kind of stament is typical for Hitler - type
dictators. They're stupid & therefore dangerous. 


>
>But I can't stop wondering how it's possible for a population
>of less than one million people in a nation of about 250-300
>million can produce enough army age recruits to terrorize the
>whole Red Army.
>
>Are they superhumans ? Or are they congenitally born to be
>terrorists ?
>-- 

Who told you that they terrorize the whole SA ? Some divisions of it
were unlucky enough to get a considerable percent of those guys. Typically 
their intellectual level is low, much lower then their self-esteem.
They're dealt with succesfully, however ;->

-----------------------------

Let me repeat again in front of the eyes of thousands of readers:

1. How many Chechens do you know?
	a. How many in the SA?
	b. How many at work ?
	c. How many at a university in Russia?
	d. How many at a university in CIS?
	e. How many in any other country ?
	f. How many in any other planet ?

2. Did you give them IQ tests ?
	a. Who made up the tests ?
	b. Who administered them?
	c. How did you come upon this knowledge ?
	
Answer these and I might have a few more.


> >2. What exactly is your idea of 'sanitary cordon'.
> >

> Something equivalent to the US-Mexico border

So, please state clearly. Are you in favor of giving them
independence ?

If so, is it because they;

	a. are  of low intellectual capability?
	b. terrorize some units of the SA ?
	c. infect pure Russians and Ukrainians with criminal ideas?
	d. deserve it and you are a moral person :-)..

> >If you still have problems understanding the questions, I will
> >be happy to repeat.
> >
> I, however, will not be happy to repeat answers already posted. Try to 
> think a little before posting; it may help.

I posted your posts. Point out your answers.

BTW, in the civilized western world of democracy, arriving at
truth via terrorizing minorities by sheer force of numbers is
frowned upon. You might be mistaking USENET and the USA for
some hicksville Ukrainian sovok village where you grew up. This
mentality exists in many places where the majority tyrannizes
the minority into accepting its version of truth and history
usually via mindless repetition of rumors, legends, myths and
prejudices. If you want accolades for your mind-numbing posts
your should have brought your hick friends with you. I'm
sure they would have given you applause that you seem to
crave.

I'll give you a little hint from America. If you get into a
street fight, you'll keep getting whacked as long as you keep
standing up and trying to fight back a losing battle. Any one
who has enough sense, admits defeat when beaten. Even dogs
and wolves don't attack one when the defeated tucks its
tail between its legs :-)..

People who realize they've written stupid things usually
have enough sense to keep quiet. As long as they keep
thinking they're still living in some hick village
where they can count on voices of support of racism and
prejudice, they'll keep getting whacked.

If you don't have to courage to apologize, at least have
enough intelligence to keep quiet.
-- 

	mark	

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