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From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: xdm
Keywords: xdm openwindows 
Organization: AODC, though I don't speak for them.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:06:07 GMT


In a recent post, I responded to someone having problems
with xdm to put the following lines in /etc/rc.local,
before the xdm lines.

	OPENWINHOME=${OPENWINHOME:-/usr/openwin}
	LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${OPENWINHOME}/lib

These should of course be followed by:

	export OPENWINHOME LD_LIBRARY_PATH

There seems to be a bit of interest in running xdm (I
would recommend it myself - we ran xdm even before getting
X terminals).  Is there interest in me posting a summary
of what is required?  Or is this info posted elsewhere?
(comp.windows.x FAQ?)

Regards,
	-Matt
matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au
matth@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

PS. billg@uu.psi.com, my reply to you couldn't make it
out of my system, will try from another machine.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: Re: xdm
Keywords: xdm openwindows 
Organization: AODC, thought I don't speak for them.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:26:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.010607.26431@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
	 matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:
	(That's me!)
>[ ... ]
>There seems to be a bit of interest in running xdm (I
>would recommend it myself - we ran xdm even before getting
>X terminals).  Is there interest in me posting a summary
>of what is required?  Or is this info posted elsewhere?
>(comp.windows.x FAQ?)

I got eight responses to this, so I will do as above.
(First, though, I'll check the c.w.x FAQ to make sure
that there is no overlap)

Regards,
	-Matt
matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au
matth@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
From: bush@.ox.ac.uk (Mark Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour for SUN's telnet ?
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:33:08 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory
Originator: bush@thom5.ecs.ox.ac.uk

In article <15340@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
#the problem may not be that "xterm" is disappearing, but that the shell
#*running* in the "xterm" is disappearing.
#
#Alternatively, the shell could, when it tries to do that operation, be
#sending out something that causes the "xterm" to die.

I suspect something even stranger.  I have just tried:

unset TERM
telnet

(or the appropriate environment variable unset command) for each of bash,
sh, csh and ksh in an xterm and the telnet started up just fine.  The xterm
is X11R5, my OS is SunOS4.1.1.

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim)
Subject: making printcap and termcap a NIS map?
Reply-To: lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:07:16 GMT


Does anyone have a method for printcap and termcap part of the NIS map? For
printcaps, the entry has to be slightly different for the host to which the
printer is attached. An obvious solution is have the NIS consult a local
printcap before consulting the NIS map, like it does for passwd.

I perused some of the old sun-spots archives, but could not find a
satisfactory answer. (one was to modify source code, we don't have source
code). There also is a reference to ypprintcap in the man pages, but it says
it is for sun 386i machines only.

It seems to me that this question would have been asked before. Hopefully the
answers can be submitted to the FAQ.
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Strange MOTD
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:54:23 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>  I recently found the following strangeness in the /etc/motd
>file on one of our machines. Does anyone know it all means?

It means that some piece of SunOS has stuck stuff from "/etc/mtab" at
the end of "/etc/motd".  I've seen both Suns and Auspexes, running
various flavors of SunOS, do that.  Dunno why, at this point....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: A bug in init? (booting single-user)
From: bcs@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz (Brent Summers)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:33:44 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: Comp Sci, U of Waikato, New Zealand
NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz

*** Flame-Free Zone - It's just my manner! ***

In article <janet.721386869@dunnart> janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson) writes:
|[...During single-user boot...]
|If I type the root password, it runs a single-user shell, as it should.
|If I type some rubbish, it repeats the prompt, as it should.
|But if I just press Return, it does a multi-user startup!

Yes.

|If it isn't a bug, what's the explanation?

That is what happens.

This is, as far as I can recall, the behaviour I've seen on every other
brand of U**x I've played with: HP-UX, SCO, Ultrix, Mach 2.x (NeXT OS),...
Why should SunOS be any different?

|Is there any way to prevent this behaviour?

No - should there be?

Regards,

-- 
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|   Programming:  Navigating through an infinity of programs in search of  |
|   one of a much smaller infinity of reasonable solutions.  Blindfolded.  |
+--------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.0: a dog?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:14:08 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

> Sigh...  see the letters "FCS" *First* customer shipment.  Sun have made
> it well known that this is for people to get experience of Solaris 2.x,
> but *NOT* for live projects unless you are porting. 

The latter is, I think, true for Solaris 2.0, but has nothing to do with
"fcs" unless they've changed what FCS means since I left.  I've
generally heard FCS not to mean "shipment to the first customers", but
"first shipment to customers", i.e. the final version of a release, as
opposed to alpha and beta versions.
From: sbellan@claude.ma30.bull.com (Simon Bellan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: system load monitor
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:16:39 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.


Hi,

Is there any utility available via ftp that monitor the system load other than
acct and ps, and which also shows the balance on the CPUs.


Thank You for any help


Simon bellan


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From: styri@hal.nta.no (Haakon Styri)
Subject: Re: Another FTP question
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Good Grief
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:29:08 GMT

Ok, I'm overworked and tired. The answer is `man ftpusers' and I should
have known that fairly well. I'll spend the rest of the week-end sleeping.

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Norwegian Telecom research
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Loopback mounts not working; why not?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:20:20 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pit-manager.mit.edu

I'm running SunOS 4.1.3 on a SPARCstation 2.  I've got a BoxHill
2.35GB disk divided into two partitions, mounted on /ua and /ub.

I want to loopback mount the directory /ub/local-sun4 on the directory
/mnt.

# ls -ld /ub/local-sun4
drwxr-xr-x 15 root          512 Nov  6 10:12 /ub/local-sun4
# ls -ld /mnt
drwxr-sr-x  2 bin           512 Jul 23 16:26 /mnt
# mount -t lo /ub/local-sun4 /mnt
mount_lo:  mount /ub/local-sun4 on /mnt:  No such device
mount: giving up on:
   /mnt
# 

Why doesn't this work?  I can't find anything in any of the manuals
(we've go the AnswerBook, and I've spent quite a while delving in it
trying to find something) that explains in detail how to troubleshoot
this particular problem.  As far as I can tell, what I'm trying to do
is no different from the example given in the mount(8) man page.

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
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MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Correct term entry for console
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:10:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I'm running running SunOS 4.1.1 on a SPARCstation 1+ and am wondering
>what the prefered entry for using a B&W display in a non-windowed
>(console) environment.  I notice that there are plenty of "sun"
>termcap entries, but which one correctly describes the screen in
>console mode?

"sun" is probably the closest approximation.  "sun", as of 4.0, is
actually an entry for a "shelltool"; the console is, as of 4.0, roughly
a subset of a "shelltool" - there are some things it does that a
"shelltool" doesn't, but there are also some probably-more-significant
things that a "shelltool" does that it doesn't, such as handling
underline, inverse-video, and bold as separate video attributes.

"sun-cmd" is for a "cmdtool", and the other "sun-XXX" entries are for
specialized purposes or for "shelltool" windows with other than 34 rows
and with software that doesn't know about TIOCGWINSZ.
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From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: Re: writing down root password (was Re: Disabling L1-A sequence?)
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:02:38 GMT

In article <janet.721445867@dunnart> janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson) writes:
>In <1dnuccINNgb@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
> says something that I hope is a joke:
>
>>More to the point.  It would be a good idea to keep your root password
>>written down ...

My point wasn't so much that one might forget the password, but that if
something foes wrong with the system, it can be hard to fix if you need
the password to boot single user.  For example, just last week, a guy at
our site was doing some fiddling with NIS, and accidentally overwrote
/etc/passwd with the version NIS distributes.  Note that these are not
the same-- NIS doesn't distribute all the daemon accounts, nor does it
distribute the root account (at least not the way we use it).  He had
saved a copy of /etc/passwd, but of course we couldn't restore without
being root!  We had to L1-A, go to single user, and put it back.
Without this ability, the fix would have been a much bigger pain.t te 
-- 
Marc Fraioli
mfraioli@grebyn.com	        	(So I'm a minimalist...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: HELP!! how do I boot my sparc from a floppy (& make a boot disk)
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:54:11 GMT

v087mxgb@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson) writes:
>how do I prepare a floppy to be booted from (do I just copy
>vmunix onto it ??)

Simple answer: you put everything on it which is required to boot

/vmunix
/boot

and then do an installboot using /usr/kvm/mdec/bootfd

Either hardcode your kernel as to where it should find it's root and swap
(in the config file), or boot with the -a option.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
From: pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Paul Wood )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Standalone sun resolv?
Keywords: resolv sun ugh
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:57:00 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

How does one make a standalone (not running NIS) sun running 4.1.1 
use the local resolver?  I have played with this in the past.
I have rebuilt the lib with the resolving libraries but the 
problem then was it didnt look at /etc/hosts anymore.  
What I have done to get around the problem is to get the sources 
for utilities like ftp and telnet and compiling them with the -lresolv
flag.  On my nexts and CDC unix boxes all I had to do was setup 
/etc/resolv.conf

Any solutions?

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From: bataller@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Erik Bataller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Books, Classes, Internet resources
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:59:32 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

Hello,
	I have currently been given the job of administering a lab of Sun
Workstations and I am very interested in getting recommendations for 
Books and classes(given by them, Sun, or third parties) about administration
and trouble shooting and I am also interested in good internet sites for
sun/unix utilities and miscellaneous goodies.  

Any help/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Erik
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From: rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:16:14 GMT

jwa@yog-sothoth.dcrt.nih.gov (James W. Adams) writes:
> [sorry, lost the attributation - my apologies to base poster]
> > [what techies think; well stated I think]
>While the quoted sentiments may reflect the opinions of a large number
>of current or recent Sun users, they DO NOT reflect Sun's current market
>strategy.  Sun is going after the MIS market and probably couldn't care
>less what several thousand engineers, scientists and assorted techies
>think.  They want their systems on the desktops of Corporate America and
>they are doing what they feel will get them there.

Those whom the gods would destroy they first make proud.  I watched
this happen to DEC; remember when DEC was this funky little
engineering outfit that sold minis to engineers and scientists?  I do;
a PDP-8L was my first personal computer.  Now I can't stomach them and
their corporate datacenter attitude.  I guess I'll get to watch it
happen to Sun next.

>If you want to hold on to 4.1.x, I'd strongly advise you to get a source
>license and be prepared to provide your own support.  Sun's newest HW
>offerings do not even run 4.1.x at all.  Genuine support for 4.1.x is
>likely to go away Real Soon Now.  Remember how fast support for the 
>Sun 3 went away.

Or consider buying a real source-code 4.4 BSD(*) license for commodity
[34]86 hardware.  BSDi is offering a real deal IMHO, and their support
and accesability have been for me (a very minor hacker) nothing short
of phenomenal.  95% of my SunOS 3.5 and 4.1.x code has just rolled
over onto BSD/386; some has needed minor tweaks, but nothing more than
an hour or two.

Just a satisfied customer (and longtime BSD bigot :).  Nuts to $15,000
workstations, and double nuts to the people who think that they can
force the deathstar down my unwilling throat.

regards,
Ross

(*) well, it isn't quite full 4.4; sort of in a grey area between 4.3
NR2 and 4.4 would be most accurate.
--
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"One way of writing a book by a committee is to restrict its contents to the
intersection of the various opinions; it is a technique that tends to lead to
short texts of high quality, and has the advantage that in the case of a
sufficiently diverse committee, it leads to no text at all."  E. W. Dijkstra
From: tibbs@math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: mountd - could not register TCP MOUNTPROG
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:48:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: karazm.TIBBS.92Nov13014852
Organization: Blob Shop Programmers

"Me" == Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@math.uh.edu> writes:

Me> I'm trying to set up a workstation to export some of its filesystems
[...]

BTW, this is with SunOS 4.1.3.  I'll never post this late again, I promise.
--
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System Administrator:  University of Houston Mathematics Department
 Houston Centers for Advanced Scientific and Molecular Computation
Blob Shop Programmers: Database consulting and graphics programming
From: davec@ima.isc.com (Dave Curado)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: 3/60 memory bug, panic, help!
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:48:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302


Hi,
I have a Sun 3/60 that has panic'd twice recently, 
with the same error.  Since the error involved a memory 
problem, I swapped out the whole 3/60 (leaving just the disks 
and the monitor...)  This computer is our newsserver, so it's 
working pretty hard.  It's also in a nicely (Brrr!) air conditioned 
room.  I know this is a long shot, because I only have a little 
info to provide, but has anyone seen this before?

---- taken from /var/adm/messages -----

Nov 11 09:44:47 dogfish vmunix: 
Memory Error Register d1<INTR,INTENA,CHECK,ERR00> d1<INTR,INTENA,CE_ENA,CE>

Nov 11 09:44:47 dogfish vmunix: 
DVMA = 0, context = 6, virtual address = fc50a98

Nov 11 09:44:47 
dogfish vmunix: pme = f200056b, physical address = ad6a98

Nov 11 09:44:47 dogfish vmunix: panic: unknown memory error

--------------- end log -----

Any and all help welcome, Thanks, Dave C.
From: ptanner@crow.eng.stratus.com (Philip Tanner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: make: openwindows vs. X11Rx
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:59:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: crow.eng.stratus.com


	Please excuse this probably simple question, but I'm
running Openwindows on a Sun. Frequently I'll get some utility
I want to compile but the make file was written for X11Rx. Typically
the make fails because it can't find the include files. 
	What do I have to change between the two systems to make the
compile work? I'm not very familiar with make files so I'm at a loss. 
I have tried playing with them but haven't found the right settings.
	Please send responses to ptanner@eng.stratus.com as I can't
keep up with all the postings.

					Thanks,

					Phil Tanner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: NFS security bug exporting to more than 10 hosts?
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:16:18 GMT

Hi all-

	In looking through the book 'A Nutshell Guide to Unix security',
I ran across a statement to the effect that one should never export a
directory to more than 10 hosts/netgroups, with no explanation of why
this would be so.  Doing an experiment in our lab, I discover that on
two different Sun machines, an IPC running 4.1.3, and a 4/490 running
4.1.2, if I list more than 10 hosts after a directory name in
/etc/exports, then ANYBODY can mount that directory, no matter who they
are!  Then, I tried making a netgroup to get the number of items in
/etc/exports below 10, and I find that if a netgroup is listed in
/etc/exports, then again, ANYBODY can mount that directory!  This is a
gargantuan security hole, obviously.  So, I then tried it on some
DECstation 5000s running Ultrix 4.2a and found that they, too, have the
bug where if a directory is exported to a netgroup, anybody can mount
it.  However, you can list as many hosts as you want (ie. > 10), without
the bug occuring, so that hole seems to be Sun only.  Does anybody know
anything about this?  Is there a patch?
-- 
Marc Fraioli
mfraioli@grebyn.com	        	(So I'm a minimalist...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Correct term entry for console
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:50:43 GMT

I'm running running SunOS 4.1.1 on a SPARCstation 1+ and am wondering
what the prefered entry for using a B&W display in a non-windowed
(console) environment.  I notice that there are plenty of "sun"
termcap entries, but which one correctly describes the screen in
console mode?

Thanks,
Chuck
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From: leisner@wrc.xerox.com ( Marty Leisner)
Subject: Re: Sharing files over WAN: rdist or NFS?
Reply-To: leisner.henr801c@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:00:52 GMT

I'm using GNU cp and cronning tasks to copy  between lans...It needs an option to convert UID/GIDs..

I'm using the update option, verbose (into a mailnote, so I can tell what was copied). the -a option
copies trees with the right bits -- as root it can changed ownership...

For example, my copy-gnu script is:

#! /bin/csh
/usr/gnu/bin/cp -a -v -x   -u /net/annapurna/files5/gnu/{bin,lib,man,info,emacs}
 /usr/gnu  | mail leisner

I like the way this is working...

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From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Network Monitoring Software Help...
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Nov12.004840.22155@crc.ricoh.com> shahryar@crc.ricoh.com (Shahryar G. Hashemi) writes:
>Dear all,
>
>I have been asked to find a good Network Monitoring Software
>[preferably X based] which will allow me to monitor packets flowing
>across the net, distinguish if our current net needs to be split
>and connected via a bridge, etc.  I would like to get input from
>people about what products you think do this job well [a public
>domain/shareware product is preferred, but a commercial product
>would be acceptable].  Please respond to me about your
>recommendations via e-mail.

While something X based may be good for looking at your net at a particular
moment, you may want something that can collect stats over a longer time.
Take a look at NNstat; it runs on Suns, DECstations, and DEC VAXen
running Ultrix.  You can configure it to gather information you consider
important (such as which two hosts are exchanging packets, which host
is receiving or sending packets, etc).  It comes with some scripts to
summarize the data it collects, but it's pretty easy to write scripts
to play with the data in whatever way you want.

NNstat is available via anonymous ftp from venera.isi.edu in 
pub/NNstat.tar.Z.


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