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From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Serb-o-for
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:19:38 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


Well, soon the Serbo-o-for troops in Croatia are going to loose their 
mandate which expires in early spring of 93'.
 
   What do you all think is going to happen then?  Will Tudman kick them 
out, or will he extend their mandate?


(has anyone even heard of a person by the name of "Gabelica"?)

damir

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From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Situation in Sandzak?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:14:12 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


  Does anyone know what the situation is like in Sandzak?
I believe that it is essential that Sandzak be liberated.  It has never 
been part of Serbo-Gora, and once it is liberated, Srbija and Crna Gora 
will cease to be one continuous unit.  With the liberation of Sandzak, we 
will have to land bridge connecting Bosna with Kosovo, i.e. Albania. 


Damir


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From: vhast+@pitt.edu (Veli Hakkoymaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Hikmet-i Quran (in Turkish)
Keywords: reaping what ones sows
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:48:22 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.croatia
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Sahte medeniyet ve bazi medeni insanlar taaddud-u ezvaci
(birden cok kadinla evlenmeyi) kabul etmiyor. Kuranin o 
hukmunu kendine muhalif, ve maslahat-i beseriyeye munafi
(insanlik icin faydali degil) telakki eder. Evet, eger
izdivacdaki hikmet yalniz kaza-yi sehvet(cinsi tatmin)
olsa taaddut bilakis olmali. Halbuki, hatta butun 
hayvanatin sehadetiyle ve izdivac eden nebatatin tasdikiyle
sabittir ki: Izdivacin hikmeti ve gayesi tenasuldur, 
neslini devam ettirmektir. Kaza-yi sehvet lezzeti ise, 
o vazifeyi gordurmek icin Rahmet tarafindan verilen bir
ucret-i cuziyyedir. Madem hikmeten hakikaten izdivac nesil
icindir, neslin bekasi icindir, elbette bir senede yalniz
bir defa tevellude kabil ve ayin yalniz yarisinda kabil-i 
telakkuh olan ve 50 senede ye'se dusen bir kadin, ekseri 
vakitte taa 100 seneye kadar kabil-i telkih bir erkege 
kafi gelmediginden, medeniyyet pekcok fahishaneleri, ve
gayri mesru iliskileri kabul etmeye mecburdur.

Veli,
From: br314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Davor Cubranic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: O soc.culture.croatia nakon prvih 50 priloga
Date: 13 Dec 1992 09:47:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Na zalost, moram reci da je prvih 50 poruka u newsgroup (usput,
kako to preveli u hrvatski?) prilicno razocaranje.  Neki lik,
zaboravio sam mu ime ali svi znate o kome se radi ako ste pratili
dopisivanje, nam prodaju pro-srpsku i anti-hrvatsku propagandu,
saljuci kopije _pravoslavlja_(??!) i Katolickog tjednika iz (pazi
ovo) '41 godine.  Na stranu to sto Republika Hrvatska 1992 NIJE
Nezavisna Drzava Hrvatska 1941 kada si morao pjevati Pavelicu ili
zavrsiti pod zemljom.  Stvar je u tome da doticni predstavlja nas,
Hrvate, kao mrzitelje Zidova i Srba.  To nije tocno.  Ja ne znam
nikoga u Hrvatskoj tko je ikad rekao ili ucinio nesto protiv
Zidova, cak ni tzv. "ekstremisti" HOS-a.
Idemo dalje...  Serdar Agic nastavlja svoju staru praksu da
propagira svoje poruke preko stopedeset grupa i tako pod nasom
zavrse neke o Armencima i slicno.  Na stranu to sto mene boli kita
za stradanje Armenaca u drugoj polovici devetnaestog stoljeca,
stvar je u tome da cak i da me interesira, ne bih gledao u
soc.culture.croatia da citam o tome.  Dajte ljudi procitaje
usenet guidelines i pridrzavajte ih se ko deset zapovijedi.
Ovo je soc.culture.croatia u slucaju da su neki od nas to
zaboravili.  Prema tome, zasto ne bismo pisali o hrvatskoj
kulturi i sire, tj. Hrvatskoj danas.  Mislim da su izvaci iz
povijesti Hrvata prilicno interesantni za one od nas koji su
manjkavi na toj strani.  Trenutno se doma odvija velika rasprava
o novoj vladi koja ni nakon sto dana nije bas previse napravila na
ekonomskom planu.  Za one od vas koji niste dugo bili u Hrvatskoj
standard je nizi nego ikad, place oko sto dolara na mjesec i sve
vise ljudi vidi meso samo na praznike.  U isto vrijeme novac
se slijeva u Zagreb i vladajucu stranku (tj HDZ), a grafiti po
zidovima odrazavaju sto o svemu tome misle ljudi ("ZG=BG" i
"Dok je bilo komunista bilo je i turista" su samo dva primjera).
Nadam se da nakon sto Hrvatska dobije puni Internet pristup da
cemo vidjeti vise priloga direktno od tamo i da cemo biti
malo vise u toku.  U medjuvremenu, uzivajte u zavrsnim ispitima
i uputite flames u /dev/nul.

Pozdrav,

Davor Cubranic
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: Re: WWII, again (was Re: Dr. Mishitch, the Bishop of Mostar)
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:53:49 GMT

stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:

>[ I have to add my comment here.  He was accused on German
>court for participating in mass killings of Serbs around
>Banja Luka!  He was supposed to be executed, but Croatian
>government saved him. Upon insistance of the German military
>authorities and Italians he lost his priesthood, as only punishment!
>That did not stop him going around Jasenovac in black robe.
>of course Joe would fail to see why Serbs do not want to 
>live under Croatian-Muslim coalition ]

Still no one has been able to explain to me why the Serbs claim to see
a rebirth of World-War-II Nazis in an independent Bosnia-Herzegovina
but the Jews do not. I am not talking about the international
Jewish community, but the Jewish community of Sarajevo, which would be
living under the Bosnian government just as the Serbs would.

It was reported in the Washington Post several months ago, and I
posted that here, that the Jewish community in Sarajevo supported the
Izetbegovic government. The head of the Sarajevo Jewish community was
actively lobbying the international Jewish community to support the
Bosnian government. And, about 100 of what was then a 600-member 
Jewish community in Sarajevo were actively either fighting with the
Bosnians or serving with the Bosnian police.

I think it is quite safe to say that the Jews of Sarajevo know exactly
what happened during World War II and who was responsible for it. Yet
they still support the idea of one multi-ethnic state in Bosnia-Herzegovina.  
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
From: wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Re: "newsgroup" in Croatian
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:19:55 -0500
Organization: Yale University Mathematics Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2155
NNTP-Posting-Host: math-gw.cs.yale.edu


I vote for `vijestoskup' as the Croatian translation of `newsgroup'.
It rhymes with `cestoglup', and the plural `vijestoskupe' rhymes with
`bijesnodupe', which certainly connects the word with some suggestive
descriptions of our former countrymen.

Cheers,
Victor

-- 
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Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.croatia:94 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10088 soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:848
From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: New Cro party?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:35:05 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


   Have ANY of you heard that Gabelica has established a new party 
called, "Cista Hrvatska Stranka Prava"?

Damir

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From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Re: Lunatic Behavior
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:21:58 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Zoran Kurtovic writes:


>        Just an after thought:
>        Who killed more Ukrainians, Hitler or Stalin?



   In view of the fact that both men were brutal, bloodthirsty
   tyrants with no regard for human life of any nationality and
   that millions of Ukrainians dies at the hands of each, I'd
   have to say that it does not matter.

   However, I have not yet encountered a single Russian (or
   Soviet of any nationality) who praised Stalin's "exploits."
   And, while there may be some Russians and Georgians who
   look back with longing to his days, the overwhelming majority
   of Soviets DO NOT.  The rotten system he created is disappearing,
   there are no schools named for him (can't speak for Georgia,
   but this is certainly true of Russia and Ukraine), no government-
   sanctioned revival of his cult, no excuses given by state
   officials for his crimes...

   Which is to say that we are not as quick to praise our killers
   as Wickerhauser, Crow, Matanic, and Ljubicic are theirs.
   
   But, as we've all seen, hatred for Serbs and Jews goes hand-in-hand
   among the aforementioned creeps.

-- Ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
From: ljubicic@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert LJUBICIC)
Subject: Ana M. Shane this is s.c.c
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:09:22 GMT


Ana please refer to the Croatian language as Croatian and nothing else.
If you insist on using terms that are redundant and offensive, such
as "Serbo-Croatian" I suggest you use soc.culture.yugoslavia.

BOG I HRVATI - ZA DOM SPREMNI!
Robert Ljubicic
From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Hrvatska on Internet?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:23:21 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


Will will Hrvatska finnaly be fully connected to the Internet?

Damir

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.croatia:145 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10154 soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:889
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: WWII, again (was Re: Dr. Mishitch, the Bishop of Mostar)
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:45:30 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec19.203125.7685@eng.umd.edu> josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) writes:
>
>These same studies are accepted as the best available information on
>the subject: even Serbian historians (eg. Aleksa Djilas) and pro-Serbian
>reporters (eg. Robert D. Kaplan) agree that these studies, which take 
>into account the earlier estimates as well as hard data, are "the most
>systematic and objective" studies so far. (Quoted from Aleksa Djilas).


First, these studies are not accepted by the best experts on the Jasenovac
- Antun Miletic ( Croat ) and Victor Novak ( Croat )

Second, Encyclopedia of Holocaust accepted half a million victims.

Third Robert D. Kaplan is hardly pro-Serbian, he is anti-Tudjman.  Read his
article about Macedonia and interpretation of the BWII.

Fourth, both Kaplan and Djilas are not experts in demography and they
have chosen to believe Kocovic, without taking into account that:
-Kocovic used 1948 census, although he himself admitted that this census is
far from good.
-Kocovic forgot to correct number of Serbs for Muslims that claimed to
be Serbs after the WWII.  This could be seen from 1971 census data and this
number is approximately 200.000
-Kocovic forgot to estimate number of Germans in Croatia that were not
immediately after the war deported, but declared as Croats and Serbs.
In Croatia and Srem this is not negligible number.

Same things were (not) done by Zerjavic.


>
>By contrast, Mr. Stojanovic has been trying to defend Serbian policies
>in Croatia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina.  Make your own judgement.
>

Local Serbs have right for self-determination, as Croats and Muslims
does.  That is all what I defend.  If Muslims do not want to live
in Yugoslavia, Serbs are not going to live in Muslim state. Same
with Croats. Period.

BTW, I do not mind Croatia.  Without regions presently known as
Serbian Republic of Krajina.
And Croats do have a choice.  Trying to take control of those regions,
which is impossible without great loss of human lifes ( not to 
mention ruined tourism in Dalmatia and potential political problems
there ) or accepting borders as decided on the plebiscite.   I 
am strongly in favour of repeated referendum, after all refugees
return, and that would be possible only if Croatia accepts such
a political solution.
Serbs do not have a choice.  They can only defend their freedom, the
same way they did in the WWII. Against the same enemy.

Is it true Mr. Loncaric that students in Zagreb that are not Croats 
have different colour of I.D.'s than Croatian students.  Why if I may
ask?  Is it similar in Belgrade?


>--Josip
>
>
>

Milan
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From: pavlovic-milan@yale.edu (Milan Pavlovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Josip Loncaric, the communist.
Date: 20 Dec 1992 20:26:30 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec19.063753.25234@eng.umd.edu> josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec18.172655.18681@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:

>>1948 census is useless for demographic studies, due to the criminal
>>methods used by communist government, what is in the "Introduction
>>to Census" called "new methodology, specific for our society."  
>
>?????  Precisely what is wrong with methodology of simply counting people?
>You are trying to make the facts fit your pet theory.  Logic dictates that
>you should work the other way around.  But, whenever you do not like the
>message, you shoot the messenger.  

  I'll tell you what's wrong, Mr. Loncaric.  The communists are well know for
holding false elections, false counts, false censuses, etc.  They used false
figures and statistics whenever they found it fit for their purpose.  In 1948,
for instance, they artificially inflated the number of Serbs counted in the
census, so as to cover up the Ustashi genocide of WWII.  That's what's wrong
with communist figures from 1948.


Milan Pavlovic
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.croatia:160 soc.culture.europe:10634
From: Zoli.Fekete@launchpad.unc.edu (Zoli Fekete)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Hungarians in Croatia
Summary: note newsgroup for Hungarian issues
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:43:55 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


Please note that there is soc.culture.magyar for Hungarian 
issues - I forwarded the posting there. You may want to 
include that group, and perhaps s.c.bosna-hercegvna (just 
don't ask me where did the missing letters go from it's name 
;-) ) as well to the followups!
 
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.croatia:144 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10153 soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:888
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: WWII, again (was Re: Dr. Mishitch, the Bishop of Mostar)
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Date: 19 Dec 92 10:10:34 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <BzHAHG.B1I@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.172655.18681@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec18.171035.11601@eng.umd.edu> josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) writes:
>>>Yes, Ustashas
>>>killed tens of thousands of Serbs in Jasenovac, and Croats reject this
>>>as criminal.  
>>Really?  For all "at most fourty thousand including Jews and Gypsies"
>>as Tudjman claims?
>
>Probably not.  Seems Tudjman tried to do the exact opposite to what you
>are doing.  Where is the middle ground is the difficult question.


You should not participate in the things you are ignorant about.
And you are, with all due respect, Joe. Mr. Loncaric is not 
ignorant, on the contrary, he is just evil.
Read Mr. Loncaric's favourite " Enciklopedija Jugoslavije."
They say about Jasenovac that most often mentioned numbers are
from 500-700.000 ( the first one is accepted in Encyclopedia of
Holocaust and is used in McNeil@Lehrer news as "official").  
As extreme views are mentioned 40.000 ( Tudjman ) and 1,000.000
( Vlada Terzic ).  I am well below extreme.  I have never claimed
1,000.000.  I think that figure between 300-400.000 is easily 
defended by many different methods.  



>
>/Joe Blazic
From: damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: New Croatian party
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:51:15 GMT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


  Mr. Gabelica has formed a new political party called, "Cista Hrvatska 
Stranka Prava", or something close to that.  Ante Starcevic did the same 
thing with H.S.P.  When some of the Pravasi started to soften up, he 
broke with the party and started a purer Croatian Party of Rights.
Funny how history repeats itself.

What do you all think about this new developement?


Damir

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From: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Re: O soc.culture.croatia nakon prvih 50 priloga
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:02:04 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

br314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Davor Cubranic) writes:


>Na zalost, moram reci da je prvih 50 poruka u newsgroup (usput,
>kako to preveli u hrvatski?) prilicno razocaranje.

Evo nekolike predloga za prevod na Srpsko-Hrvatski:
-	oglasna grupa
-	oglasni cvor
-	grupne vesti
-	? <sta mislite>

>U medjuvremenu, uzivajte u zavrsnim ispitima
>i uputite flames u /dev/nul.

>Pozdrav,

>Davor Cubranic

Srdacno,

  With hopes for peace

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.croatia:130 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10129 soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:877
From: josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Dr. Mishitch, the Bishop of Mostar
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:07:53 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Dec17.160420.18632@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec16.191342.18582@husc3.harvard.edu> stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>>
>>>Serbs used to outnumber Croats seven to one in Mostar in 1870! 
>>>In 1991 there are no Serbs left in Mostar.
>
>Serbs claimed only part of the city called Brankovac, where they were
>always majority, until 1992.

How could they be the majority in 1992 if there were none left in 1991?
You are contradicting yourself...  but then again, you've always played
fast and loose with numbers, dates and places.

--Josip
From: wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Re: What's the point of S.C.C??
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:59:42 -0500
Organization: Yale University Mathematics Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2155
NNTP-Posting-Host: math-gw.cs.yale.edu

In article <BzDoAv.2nF@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>...
>Anyway, I am curious: is there no one out there with any info on older
>Croatian music CDs??

In 1989 I got a tape of contemporary rock music, from the Zagreb
scene, from Ivan Marusic, including cuts from his band Sin Albert,
Sarlo Akrobata, Disciplina, Kicme, Miladojka Youneed, U.B.R., Laibach,
Partibrejkers, Haustor, Boye, and Pankrti.  Some of it is pretty good,
and I think at least Laibach has come out on CD.  At the time, Marusic
was full of contempt for Jugoton CDs, which he said contained nothing
but junk.  He said that Jugoton reissues on CD were re-recordings from
LP, complete with exquisitely recorded scratches and pops.  I hope
that Croatian independence has improved this situation, but I think
there are few CDs from Croatia prior to 1990 that are worth buying.
Someone please correct me if this impression is wrong.

>Regards,
>
>Joe Blazic


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Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
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From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola Malenovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Re: What's the point of S.C.C??
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:25:10 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1gqhhnINNppa@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
>In article <BzDoAv.2nF@ecf.toronto.edu> blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:
>>In article <1goc0nINN8uj@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
>>>1)  This network is public; it is not _yours_. 

>>>2)  Serbs live in Croatia, and so it is also _theirs_ even if this
>>>    were not a public network, but instead, purely a Croatian one.

>>Nick is right here.  The newsgroup is soc.culture.croatia, not croatiaN.
>>As well, of course it is public.  The problem is not with postings in 
>>S.C.C. per se, but "useless postings" on Usenet in general.  Am I alone
>>in these opinions?

>Thank you, Joe.  I appreciate your public support and return the favor.
>You are definitely not alone in your opinion that Usenet is sometimes
>more of a UseLESSnet.
>
>-Nick

wasn't it the abUSEnet?

just wasting the bandwith... yes, one of the thing of 'not to do'... }:-)


Nik
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