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In rec.video, amcalind@cs.strath.ac.uk (Anthony McAlinden IE91) writes:

> Since the release of "Far and Away", shot on the 65mm Panavision Super 70
> format, I've seen a lot of discussion as to whether large-format shooting
> will ever become even relatively popular again.
> ...
> However, the theatrical prints are said to cost between ten and twelve times
> as much.

This is true, but hasn't much to do with whether or not more films will be
shot in 65mm.  The 70mm prints are made regardless (and for the last 20
years, virtually all have been 35->70 blowups).

> After a couple of years, the magnetic soundtracks would be no longer needed,
> with all theatres SR-D equipped. 

I doubt if Dolby will approve.  The presence of BOTH mag-analog and SR-D
bits provides a safety factor.  If the SRD bits are damaged beyond the
ability of the ECC, the system drops "seamlessly" back to analog.  The
dropouts on the competing CDS (Cinema Digital Sound) system (which required
replacing the mag tracks, and striking 2 types of prints) reportedly killed
CDS.  When the ECC failed - the result was probably like dropouts on compact
disc.  Clicks, pops, digital mud and/or silence.

> Interestingly, how common in the States these days are 70mm capable
> theatres?

About 2 per major city (like Denver).  Perhaps 1 in 100 screens.

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From: osyjm@Somewhere.Edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Money to blow, need good AV receiver or component recommendations
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:29:43 GMT
Organization: CS



I have a budget of appx $1000 - $1500 to spend on a good Prologic receiver,
or buy it a'la carte.

I've gone and looked at the stuff available in this area, and the pickings
are pretty slim.

I liked the Pioneer VSX-DS1, but I got some "negative" comments from
other netters on it.  Which is fine, I'm easy.

I've gotten recommendations to look at Onkyo, but I have no local dealers,
so need to get a line on which models I should look for to maybe check
out other places, maybe a trip out to Seattle or somesuch.

I looked at some Yamaha stuff, but haven't found any reviews.

I've been told to stay away from Sony, but who knows?

Anyway, your opinions, comments, even descriptions of what you have and
like would be cool.

Thanks.  Please e-mail.  If demand warrants, I'll summarize and post.

PS... I need at least 4 video inputs, 8 audio inputs, multi-room capability
if possible, 5 channel prologic, lots of doo-dads.  I'm a gadget freak.
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
From: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: GSRS 7/92             2/2
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy)
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)

>>> Continued from previous message
UNI SATELLITE TV ECHO.  Robert Smathers, Moderator.
Usenet address is roberts@triton.unm.edu

Computer Bulletin Boards:

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HOME OF THE TVRO ECHO BBS. 716-442-8144. Sysop: Phillip Dampier.
Access to the Fidonet TVRO Echo.

SATELLITE TV BBS. 713-623-4899.  Sysop: Jim Dolan. Access to
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Public Action Groups:

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Author of GSRS: Frank Kennedy, FidoNet TVRO Moderator, 1/124:4115.225.

Send all corrections/additions to  1/124:4115.225@fidonet.org _or_
via Usenet at Frank.Kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org _or_  at 203 Lark Lane.
Euless, TX, 76039. For a printed copy of the GSRS File or a copy
of the FidoNet TVRO BBS List, send a self-addressed-stamped-envelope
to the Lark address above.

Services, keep me updated and corrected!
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From: die@clearpoint.com (Dave Emery)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Cable bill just passed by house
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:44:42 GMT
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.


	Nobody seems to have posted any details of what the current
house passed cable re-regulation bill contains.   News stories have
indicated that it includes provisions requiring that service providers
sell cable video information streams to MDS and satellite distributers
under similar terms to cable headends.

	But no report I have seen so far indicates whether it includes
the provisions of previous bills requiring TVRO rates comparable with
cable headend rates.  I presume that satellite distributors include
the current VCII+ authorization packagers as well as the yet to be
launched hi-tech digital DBS services, and thus would allow conventional
C-Band TVRO rates to drop ?

	Does anybody have any details?

	Dave Emery,  die@crackers.clearpoint.com, voicemail: 1+508-435-7462
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Olympic channels, especially Sunday morning 7/26 on G6/9
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:39:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <9207271647.aa15789@crdec7.apgea.army.mil> wejones@CRDEC7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL (Bill Jones) writes:
>>
>I too watched the W4-09 (G6) feed, and had hopes that it would have coverage
>of the events too, so I looked there on Sunday, but found it to be
>scrambled (I could see images of sporting events before the picture popped
>out).  It seemed to be VCII scrambling, but it made my picture pop and
>crackle (sorry for the strange description, but when the screen would

I also observed this VC-II (or maybe VC-II+) signal on G6/9.  It also
crackled.  I stuck with it long enough to find out that it was a
"tape-delayed" broadcast of the USA Dream Team game versus Angola
courtesy of the NBC PPV Blue channel.  I assume NBC put it there
for the benefit of foreign countries to descramble and use the
signal as part of television coverage.  That (G6/9 and G6/13)
seem to be foreign feeds of the olympics meant for other countries
to use -- sort of like a "NBC Olympics International".

Robert

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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:46:20 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      List of european satellites and programs.

After having received many inquiries about format, compression type,
Unix or MS-DOS etc. for the announced list, I have contacted the
friendly sysop of this site MCSHH.HANSE.DE and he installed a
directory for anonymous ftp of the list named SBC.TXT. You will
find the list in pub/satelliten from now on. Hope this helps.
Wolfgang

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From: skaggs@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Gary Skaggs)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re:      Re: Free Olympic coverage
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:50:35 GMT
Organization: National Severe Storms Laboratory

In article <9207302016.AA27813@lopez.marquette.MI.US> Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:
>>Got this from Compuserve today, should be of interest to rec.video.satellite
>>as well.
>
>
>>Sb: FREE OLYMPIC COVERAGE
>
>>PPV about 250,000, instead of the hoped for 2,000,000.  Daily price has
>>dropped down to $19.95.  And coverage will be free on CNBC from 6-10pm
>>Thursday and Friday nite (EDT), and from 1-4am EDT Friday and Saturday
>>morning.  They will show all three at the same time, with graphics in the
>>fourth quadrant.  There will be no audio.  I am not making this up.  Jim
>
>
>
>It is in the clear on G5 and F4.  It is insane.
>
>
>
>--
>    /   Gary Bourgois, WB8EOH, The Birdwatcher: Marquette Michigan  USA   \

Our cable distributor for suburban OKC, Multimedia, is based in Edmond.  This
is also Shannon Miller's hometown.  Ergo, our *Triplecast*(tm) was still
scrambled last night while most of the rest of the country had either totally
unscrambled, or at least one unscrambled, views of the rerun Olys last night.

I assume that they were playing on the idea that if folks thought that some
of the gymnastics were on NBC, then it would be on PPV too.

Dark Ages.  Marketing people are almost as bad as lawyers.

______________________________________________________________________________
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	"Neither my employer, The University of Oklahoma,
	 nor The National Severe Storms Laboratory, where I work,
	 know that I even have any opinion, much less this one."
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:30:31 -0400
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@MCNC.ORG>
Subject:      British Programming on US sats

Charles E. Newman sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes:

>    Can someone tell what satellites and channels British
>programming can be received on?

Well heres a few to be going on with: (all times EST)

S3-22 LVTN/British-Channel 2PM-7PM EST mostly documentaries plus
                                   ITN World News 6:30PM
E2-19 CBC Mon, Tues Weds, Midday  Coronation Street, repeated Sundays.
Bravo F3-24 various programs, South Bank Show, comedy occasionally
            including Lenny Henry, Fry and Laurie.
A&E   G5-23 6AM weekdays Rising Damp, Black Adder 4th (rotates with
            other stuff)  Also much other stuff.
E1-15 Vision TV (Canadian) Mons 10PM Last of Summer Wine
                           Tues 10PM In Loving Memory
                           Mons 8PM Highway (Harry Secomb)
                           Thurs 8PM Movie usually British
                        New stuff promised for Autumn
F3-5  VISN  Highway, Bless me Father, occasional other stuff
G1-1, G3-23 Comedy Central  Monty Python, Black Adder, London Underground
E2-17 2:55AM weekdays 20 minutes of BBC Breakfast News
G3-24 (C-SPAN) 5.4 Narrow Band Audio  BBC World Service
G1-22 Discovery Channel - occasional stuff.
S4-6,8,10,12  PBS Masterpiece Theater, Mystery etc. etc plus feed of
              East Enders, Monday & Tuesday 6PM (or is it 6:30 or 7PM?).

There is no direct programming from the UK, News feeds can be seen
on G2, G6, A1-17, ASC-1 at various times.  BBC WS-TV is still promised
- probably in 1993 but who knows.

If you are into sports there is quite a bit of UK soccer at the weekends,
sometimes Rugby (fed to Australia & NZ) and Cricket.

The British Channel promised a big lineup of UK shows but so far they
have failed to come through.  They claim problems with the feed from
the UK, and contractual problems with British Actors Unions. If they
manage to resolve these and start programming as promised there
should be much to watch. Also some people complain about picture
quality on this channel. It has recently improved and I get a perfect
picture now.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:26:52 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      wrong address
X-To:         "HOMESAT - Home Satellite Technology" <HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

A poor soul wrote:

>GET  HOMESAT  LOG9012A
etc
etc
etc
etc

I think this should go to the master homesat address, not the distribution
list.

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Subject: Really strange audio on G6/22 tonight!
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:35:43 EDT
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

On G6/21 or 22 I can't recall which, there is all kinds of very weird audio
on 6.8.  I finally figured out what it is...  Someone has a VHF/UHF type
scanner (the kind used for monitoring police) patched into the audio.  I am
hearing SMR telephone calls, public service agencies, businesses, etc.  This
is completely amazing!

I think the audio is coming from California.  The video is scrambled.
Bring a scanner buff myself, I recognize all the sounds, like SMR data, etc.
Guys calling their wives on the way home from work, and lots of really
oddball stuff.

I have no idea why this is there, but it is sure fun to listen to.  If it is
still up when this goes out and this manages to make it to the group (seems
like my posts are not getting out very well)  Check it out for yourself

One of the voice IDers just said  "....repeater, Ocean City"

Really weird!

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From: mgm@clipper.ingr.com (Mike Marfell)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Olympics On Canadian Satellite
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:32:00 GMT
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA



    Well it's looks like we don't have to pay for the triplecast, we can
get the Olympics via Canadian satellite (A1-14)! However it's in french 
and we only see the Canadian national team, except multi country events 
like Track and field, swimming and Biking. Now the question! Is the 
Canadian feeds Live or is it Memorex? I get up at 5am PST and there on.
So could this be taped? Hmmmmmmm. BTW, speaking of the triplecast, I
hear that the NBC folks caved in and the triplecast will sold for
$19.95 a day plus a free weekend view on the 25th & 26th.

                                                          -Mike
 
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:29:58 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: SCPC, FM2, FM3
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

>Fellow Sat Fans,

>Brief note to express mutual interest in successful reception of SCPC
>and the proprietary fm signals known as FM2 and FM3. What I have not
>seen mentioned in the discussions is that most of these signals are
>if not entirely composed of digital signals, entirely compressed
>analog, which means that satisfactory reception will involve more
>than the use of the oft mentioned "tv band radio...etc." I do appreciate
>the input of both novice and the few "information leaders" in this
>newsgroup. Best Wishes to all!

The analogue compression is 3 to 1 which is the standard compression used on
both FM^2 and SCPC.  FM^3 is data transmission.

Personally I do not mind the compression.  It works fine for both music and
voice.  If you listen to music on regular FM radio, you already DO listen to
compressed audio.

For PERFECT reception, you would need to add a DBX decoder to invert the
comptession (by expansion).  I do not personally feel this is necessary.
Most of us enjoy the SCPC and FM^2 just the way they are.

There is also some high frequency pre emphasis, but this is easily dealt with
by tone control or equalizer.

My advice:  TRY IT, You'll *LIKE* it....

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From: mech@gdlvm2.VNET.IBM.COM (Robert P. Mech)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: ST:TNG Full Black Feeds
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:48:52 GMT

I have found this season's full black feed of ST:TNG. It is on Telstar
301 transponder 19 (not 9) and the time is 19:00-20:00 EDT.  They ran
episode 206 (The Game) last night (Monday).  Which means I missed the
first week.  Since 206 was fed last night, it appears they are running 5
days a week.  Logic dictates that tonight's feed should be part 1 of
Reunification.  :-)

For the uninitiated, full black feeds are the ones used by stations that
air ST:TNG more than once a week (e.g. every weeknight).  These feeds
have NO commercials (so the station can fill the entire time with their
own commercials), just six 2:02 black periods where the commercials
usually are.  And there is no "promo" for the next episode, they go
right into the closing credits.  Excellent for archiving on tape.

Robert P. Mech
From: hkp@daimi.aau.dk (Hans K|hling Pedersen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: NBC feedback TO Europe
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:28:55 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

How strong is the signal? Is it worth tracking (from Denmark) on a 1.5m dish?
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:33:10 PDT
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <vijay@ZYCAD.COM>
Subject:      Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
X-cc:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU
              27 Jul 1992 19:11:35 GMT <9207272030.AB04813@Sun.COM>

> Instead, blame them for giving 0 coverage of about 1/3 of the sports
> (including Archery, Fencing, Handball, yachting, TKD, shooting, badminton,
> pentathalon, etc).  I would have bought the TripleCast if there was even
> a couple of hours of fencing coverage.
If it helps, I saw some fencing on either the Anik (A1) or Morelos
(M2 and M1) satellites. I cant figure that sport out, so I didnt
watch for more than a few minutes, but ...

- Vijay
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From: paulonis@kodak.com (Mike Paulonis)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Where are weather channel local forecasts (summary)
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:26:21 GMT
Organization: Eastman Chemical Co., Kingsport, TN

I got several responses to my question.  Thanks to all who responded. Two
answers were particularly helpful and are reprinted here.

=============================
From: "John R. Stephens, Jr." <JSTEPHEN@uga.cc.uga.edu>
>I was wondering how cable companies integrate the local forecast information
>with the satellite-based national Weather Channel programming?  Is the local
>forecast info also sent via satellite (requiring a special decoder) or does it
>come from some other place?  Now that local forecasts can include things like
>radar, it seems like quite a bit of data that might require a significant
>investment in equipment to convert to video.
>
>The ultimate question is "can I get this information at home using a satellite
>receiver?"
>
>Please post clues, comments, dissertations, etc.

The "Local Weather" requires the services of a "Blue Box called the Weather
Star 4000" which is almost what it costs--$4400.  It receives its information
from the Wx Channel based upon an "area code".  The software is proprietary
and does not come in the box, but is delivered via downlink.  It is a very
sophisticated system with local origination for messages available.  It has
a built in local ID for channel and system ID.

It apparently contains a lot of memory chips (I guess) to hold all this info.
We just installed one, it worked "out of the box" just as the instructions
described.  Impressive! Warranty invalid if box opened, etc. so we haven't
looked inside.  Also, you don't purchase, it is a long term lease with a one
time payment.  Hope this helps.

============================
From: gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (Glynne Tolar)
There is special equipment that the cable company has that decodes and
displays the local forcast.  It is transmitted (in part anyway) on the VBL.
Turn your virtical hold knob to show the big black line on the screen.
look at the bottom of it and there will be 4 to 5 lines of white dots
flashing across.  That's the data!

>The ultimate question is "can I get this information at home using a satellite
>receiver?"
>

The system is SO specific to cable systems (that's its only use) that you will
be hard pressed to have it available for home use.  Neat system though.
Would love to tap that data streem myself.
 
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