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From: George Paap <george_paap@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Cal score?
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:30:02 GMT
Organization: Motorola RISC
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:31:53 GMT

Does any one know the Oregon and Oregon State vs Cal scores?
Believe it or not, the Statesman here in Austin doesn't
carry the "far" west scores (they must go to press at
8pm) and often doesn't carry them the next day.  Makes
me actually miss the Daily Cal.

Thanks,
George Paap

I am my beliefs.
(which almost certainly are not those of my employer)
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: The Quality of this Group
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:20:26 GMT

In article <C0I1It.227@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> creps@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu  
(Stephen A. Creps) writes:
> 
>    Since I've started getting more time to post to this group again,
> have people noticed that the quality of r.s.b.c  has improved quite
> significantly?

You mean since Sherman went on break?

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From: zimms@newt.ee.byu.edu (Stephen H. Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: WAC Powers


In article <1993Jan6.022100.16829@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, jfc3348@u.cc.utah.edu (John F. Conroy) writes:
>
>The reason for this is that the University of Utah has an agreement with
>the University Park Hotel, whereby visiting teams' food is poisoned.
>Additionally, extra effort is made to exchange their jockstraps for
>identical ones two sizes smaller, puncture the air bags in their Reeboks,
>and brainwash the teams with subliminal "Beat BYU" messages.
>
>
>Or maybe God's a Running Ute fan. . . .

Yeah, right.  I guess He just doesn't care much for football
or cold fusion! :)  Ha ha ha.  Actually, it looks like you've got
a pretty darn good team up there this year.  Good luck on Saturday.
('course I hope BYU wins, though :)

Steve
From: ray.horton@tfd.gwinnett.com (Ray Horton) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Tennessee
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ky/In PC User's Group - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Reply-To: ray.horton@tfd.gwinnett.com (Ray Horton) 

CA>Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
CA>From: applcore@utkvx2.utk.edu (Core, Andrew)
CA>Subject: Tennessee defeats Furman
CA>Message-ID: <1JAN199300213778@utkvx2.utk.edu>
CA>Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:21:00 GMT

CA>    Tennessee is now 6-2, Coach Houston's best start at UT.

Glad to see it!  Wade H. was and is well-loved up here at Louisville 
(were he was former assistant).  Hope the program continues to improve
(it gives some of us Louisville fans a team to root for in the SEC!)
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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dean Smith (Re: UNC TARHEELS--1992/93 NCAA BSKTBLL. CHAMPS)
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, Craig.Simpson@launchpad.unc.edu (Craig 
Simpson) writes:
 >In article <1993Jan7.210949.16372@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.
 >unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
 >>
 >>I take this to mean that Dean is/has recognized some of the shortcomings
 >>that Steve has tried to address. I also read where Derrick Phelps said
 >>that Coach Smith had reduced the number of set plays in order to open up
 >>the game a little and let the players relax a little more. Good call IMHO.
 >
 >I really don't think that Dean would recognize Steve as someone from
 >whom he would take advice :-).  As far as reducing the number of set
 >plays, I think it has more to do with UNC having trouble in the half
 >court offense then Dean wanting the Heels to play the kind of
 >one-on-one basketball that Steve seems to think they should play.
 >Dean just wants to simplify things until they work out the kinks.
 >Still a good call for coach that does not know how to adjust :-).

At least Mike has shown that I wasn't making up things about Dean Smith
and his UNC system.  

When you've been an UNC fan for at least 30 years as I have been, you 
would have heard Dean Smith say a lot of things that young fans may
not believe today.

My problem today is that I'm living in the Washington, D.C., area, so
I can't get to hear or read what Dean has to say as much as I did when 
I was living in the Tar Heel country.  Naturally, Dean Smith probably
has changed some of his ideas or philosophies over the time. 




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From: conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt)
Subject: Re: That was no lady ...
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:13:43 GMT

In article <1icsadINNhsa@shelley.u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen) writes:
>
>>Something that's been annoying me since I began following
>>women's hoops at the old UVa is the constant reference to
>>women's teams as the "Lady So-and-so's." It seems to 
>>perpetuate the perception of the second-class nature of
>>women's basketball. 
>>
>>It's as though women can't be referred to as part of the
>>general student body (or athlete body or whatever) and have
>>to have some sort of seperate category.
>>
>>In a recent posting ( SWC/Pac10 Challenge - Women's Bball )
>>we had the Lady Raiders, the Lady Huskies, the Lady Cougars,
>>and the always alliterative Lady Longhorns. What's the
>>point? Why not just Red Raiders, Huskies etc.?
>
>In fact, the posting was incorrect.  There is no such thing as the 
>"Lady Huskies".  The team is called the "Huskies".  My suspition is that
>the author made an assumption that the prefix "Lady-" was justified
>since in many areas of the country, the women's teams are called that.
>This is not truein the Pac Ten.

My assumption was based on the fact that that's what the official
program said and how the announcers referred to them.  I plead 
innocence!  So the question is, are they ladies or not?

Paul (I'm way confused, now)
>
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From: lewism@jmb2.jmb.com (Mike Lewis)
Subject: Re: Biased Fans / Bad Refs
Organization: JMB Realty Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:40:41 GMT

Brian E. Saunders (saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu) wrote:
: This almost sounds like some sort of book title, doesn't it?  Maybe it
: should be Jim Bain's autobiography title.
: 
: In my experience, fans that boo "bad" calls are wrong at least 2/3 of the
: time.  I used to think that it was that they were trying to sway the refs,
: but in reality, I now think they are blind or stupid.
: 
: Never have I noticed this more than at my days at Purdue (and my return
: trips to Mackey).  Last Saturday versus Butler, I counted at least 12 times
: where many of the fans were whining about what my friends and I perceived
: as good calls.  A few times, a bad call was made in Purdue's favor, and the
: lot of them thought it was a good call.  I think quite often people see
: what they want to see.

Well then, I guess it's a good thing you're stuck up in Wisconsin with those
fair-minded, clear-sighted, basketball-knowledgable Badger fans.

Duke fans are another group who impress me with their spirit of fair play.  In
fact, I've been surprised on a number of occasions to hear the Dookies boo a
bad call against the other team.  I believe this happened several times during
last year's UNC game ;-)
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From: hamel@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Hamel)
Subject: Re: Georgia Tech over Duke by 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:49:36 GMT

In article <8490@news.duke.edu> rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.012510.12394@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:

>>This was a classic ACC game, and it was fun to watch. The one thing that
>>pissed me off was the foul they gave to Mackey on that screen. Hey, that
>>was no foul. Hurley ran into Mackey, plain and simple. I'm starting to
>>think these media darlings get special treatment. <g>

>Okay dude, next time we're on the playground, and I'm setting a pick and
>as you come by I deliver a forearm to your head, just remember that was
>no foul.

Just because someone runs into a brick wall (ie, Mackey) and lands on their
back *real* hard doesn't necessarily mean it was a foul.  Replays showed
that the foul call on the play was probably incorrect, and this was 
pointed out numerous times by the sportscasters.  I would be mad as hell
if I were Hurley, but not at Mackey.....his *OWN* players are supposed to
alert him to picks and screens such as this.  In other words, someone on
his own team failed to let him know what happens when a moveable object
meets an unmoveable one.

unmoveabl
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From: jfc3348@u.cc.utah.edu (John F. Conroy)
Subject: Re: Kentucky - Georgia
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 19:36:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.091809.5798@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge) writes:
> Comments:
>
> 1. UK's defense was awesome.  Every Georgia pass was an adventure.  The
>    team is so quick this year.
>
>     {Stuff deleted}

That was more Georgia's fault than UK's quickness. Georgia's passing
managed to make BYU look fast earlier this year..

John Conroy.
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal Woes (long)
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:22:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <XJAM.93Jan12010340@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU> xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>  Ken> I don't blame the coach when players lose their shooting ability.
>
>Well, I normally wouldn't blame the coach either but let's rewind the tape
>and go to last year's Stanford game at the Coliseum. Dreher has indeed been
>in a slump. He's on the bench. Fine. Cal is getting blown out. Who's on the
>floor tossing up bricks, and playing miserably? Kyle Campanelli.

I have to agree with you here.  Kyle Campanelli would have had a
hard time making water-boy if his father wasn't the coach.
Kyle couldn't shoot or play defense.

Ken Kubey         kubey@wpd.sgi.com  (415) 390-3536
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Iowa-Indiana thoughts
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:55:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.145445.9696@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu  
writes:

> Some of my thoughts on Wednesday's Iowa - Indiana ball game

Did Wade Lookinbill get any quality minutes?

OD

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From: jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West)
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight: A Year-by-Year Chronology
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:32:56 GMT


In article <1993Jan11.202630.229@news.acns.nwu.edu> jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West) writes:



I don't know how that got posted 3 times!!!

My most humblest apologies!!!!!


Jw
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UCLA/Arizona
Keywords: Quick summary
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:39:31 GMT

Well the 2 teams playing the best ball in the Pac-10 met in Pauley last
night and Arizona prevailed 82-80 in a game UCLA had no business being
close in. I don't have the boxscore but they missed so many freethrows
last night I wouldn't really want to know the exact total, add to that
the inability to keep Arizona off the offensive glass, all the turnovers,
and a terrific game from penetrator deluxe Damon Stoudamire and you get
an Arizona win.

The big play was at 80-80 with about 20 seconds left, Stokes missed a
freethrow but Owes got the bound and ended up getting fouled after a feed
from Stoudamire(who else) and hit 2 freethrows, Butler missed a desperationg
3 and that was it. Vitale was blaming O'Bannon for letting Owes rebound
the missed foul shot, but it was Zimmerman who lined up inside of Owes and
never blocked him out(Harrick was yelling at him "I said stack, what the
hell were you doing down there?" because he went to the basket instead of
blocking out Owes).

O'Bannon was brilliant at times with I think 29 points including a huge
3 to pull us back in the game, and numerous acrobatic moves inside to score.
He also missed 5-6 freethrows and continues his bad habit of not blocking
his man out. Ed really needs to get stronger physically, he is always getting
knocked off balance or off his feet by guys his height but stronger, more
strength would really help his rebounding. Great to see his offense though,
as Moo-moo said, the knee is fine.

Next up is ASU on saturday coming off a loss to USC. We're in last place,
when was the last time we were that low (-:.




Russ Smith
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From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Subject: Trying to find somebody
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:33:39 GMT

I realize this is not the forum for this request except that the person is a
basketball fan at William and Mary.  Can tell me how I could login to the
Computer system to maybe find out her Login.  I should know it, but I forgot
and don't want to waste the long distance call to get it again.

Thanks,
			---Mark

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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: Missouri Valley - MidCon - Midwest
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:17:06 GMT

Missouri beats Southern Illinois 82 - 76 in 2OTs at Mizzou. SIU's Amaya 
plays the whole 2nd half with 4 fouls and leads the Salukis with 15. This
is very unusual - Amaya never gets in foul trouble. Tough to win on the
road. SIU is now (9-2). Northern Iowa in Carbondale Sat. night.

Big upset: Illinois St awakens to beat SW Missouri 65 - 57.

Kansas crushes Wichita St by 49 points. (and Wichita beat Kansas St?)

Big embarrassment: Northeastern Illinois beats Indiana St by 3.

--------------

UW-Milwaukee beats Western Ill  76 - 67 at WIU. I expected a big blowout.
UW-M is now 12 - 1.

Wright St (7-3) 136  Chicago St 91   (Wright had 129 last game - is Paul 
                                      Westhead, Mr Nodefense, coaching there)
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From: abreen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alex Breen)
Subject: Re: Michigan State and the Big Ten
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:07:05 GMT

bonacci@ecf.toronto.edu (BONACCI John) writes:

>In article <1is5quINNkvr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall) writes:
>>I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing last Saturday's Illinois-MSU
>>game.  Both teams ayed solid defense as evidenced by the 52-39 final score,
>>but it's MSU's offense that is offensive!
>>To all Illini fans:  I was impressed with your teams defense and you have a 
>>team on the rise.  I could see the Illini anywhere from 3rd to 7th in the Big 11

     Quiet!!  This could be the first year that I don't have to put up with 
people complaining that Lou can't coach and all he does is waste talented
players.  Please don't say that Illinois is going to finish that well.
Say that Illinois got lucky and Michigan State had an off night.

>I cannot read with 100% certainty who got 52 and who got 39.  You mean the
>Illini actually won?  Where was it?  Surely not in ELansing??

     Yes, Illinois won by 13 points Saturday night.  Sort of a revenge game
after Illinois handed them a victory last year in East Lansing.  Both 
teams shot like high school teams.  Maybe the defense had something to do
with it, but I doubt it.  Both teams looked like they needed some 
offensive help and the only reason Illinois won by a large margin is that 
for once they finally hit their free throws!


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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA/Arizona
Keywords: Quick summary
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:20:00 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1993Jan8.172656.9553@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>I can't count how often Stoudamire blew past Edney down the center of the
>lane, drew two defenders to him, and fed the ball to an open Wildcat 
>(generally Mills) close to the basket for the easy shot.  He had several
>steals and hit a couple of three pointers, too.  Great game for Stoudamire.
i
Yes Tyus needs to learn when to go for steals and when not to, Stoudamire is
too quick and you have to back off him a little or he'll blow by you. Tyus
tried to get in his jock and he got burned repeatedly, but I still love the 
little guy.

>let the team fold, no matter how much Petruska wanted to.  Petruska's poor
>play, especially rebounding and defense, were the key to the game, I thought.
>UCLA's biggest break was when, with around 3-4 minutes left and down by
>about 5, Petruska committed two quick fouls and fouled out.  While Zimmerman
>may have blown the rebound at the end, he generally played better defense than
>Petruska.  Petruska has had some great games for UCLA this season, but he
>looked unprepared and unfocussed last night.  

Yeah my girlfriend saw the first 10 minutes with me and she remarked that
Petruska looked "brain-dead". He really was bad the whole night, every time
he dribbled the ball he turned it over. I don't think he likes playing inside
and harrick wants him there and I think in the halfcourt set he's real
uncomfortable there. Since Tarver is so good down low, and Petruska has
a pretty nice outside shot(at least he did at Loyola) I think I might 
try inverting them from time to time and let Petruska play at the highpost.
Stokes just killed him last night.




Russ Smith
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From: conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt)
Subject: SWC/Pac10 Challenge - Women's Bball
Keywords: Lady Raiders are awesome
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:26:10 GMT

This past Saturday, Jan. 2, the SWC/Pac10 Challenge was held at the
Frank Erwin Center here in foggy Austin, Texas.  The first game pitted
the Texas Tech Lady Raiders against the Washington Lady Huskies and the
second game had the University of Texas Lady Longhorns against the 
Washington State Lady Cougars (let's be glad we weren't playing 
football here!).

The Lady Raiders dominated game 1 by beating U-Dub 90-74.  Sheryl Swoopes
(what a great b-ball name) scored a SWC record high of 48 points.  She
drove the lane, hit from inside, hit from outside, blocked some shots,
everything.  This girl may be the most dominating college player in the
country.  When Tech coach Marsha Sharp was accused of having a one-woman
team, she replied that when someone is open all night under the basket,
the other team members have a responsibility to get her the ball.  Tech
is now 9-1 with their only loss coming to then-#1-ranked Stanford in
Palo Alto and was ranked #11 last week in the AP poll.  They have beaten 
top 20 teams LA Tech and Miami.

The second game had the Lady Longhorns totally out-classing the Lady
Cougars.  It was halfway through the first half before WSU even broke 10
points.  The Lady Horns have a very balanced team and with this big of
a blowout, I believe that all the players saw a good bit of action.  I
didn't stay for the end of the game and can't remember the score, but it
was in the neighborhood of 70-something to 40-something.  The Lady Horns
are now 5-3 with all 3 of their losses coming against top 20 teams.  They
travel to Palo Alto this week to play #2 Stanford.

The 3 best SWC games of the season will be between UT and Tech.  The 
first time they meet will be Jan 20 in beautiful Lubbock, America.  I
think Tech will take advantage of the home court and beat UT.  The
second will be here in even more beautiful Austin on Feb 17.  The Lady
Horns looked much more physical than Tech did and have a better inside
game.  Look for the Horns to win here in Austin, although I'll be there
cheering the Raiders on!  They should meet again this year in the 
SWC tournament finals.  Both teams should get an NCAA bid.

Paul (love those Lady Raiders) Conditt


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