From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: VOTE, BABY, VOTE!
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:55:23 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

paulus@owlnet.rice.edu (Paul Nathan Crocker) writes:
:eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
:>/	I take it, then, no matter who makes the kids, or how many, we
:>/	have to allow it to happen unchecked and all pay for it,
:>/	'till we start starving???
:>/
:>/	Unbelievable! :-(
:>
:>Just wondering, are you willing to die for your cause? What solutions do
:>you propose to ameliorate the situation? Why not just kill people,
:>that'll be the way to "decrease the surplus population." Why not just
:>kill yourself and your entire family? Forced abortions like China? I'm
:>interested to know how the solutions you propose will ameliorate the
:>crisis.
:
:Very nice.  I suppose that if you had read the previous post you might realize
:that this is just the attitude that it attacked.  Just because there is
:no "simple" solutions to the problems of the world that will eventually kill
:us all does not mean that we should all resign ourselves to death.  Perhaps
:rather than wasting post space, you yourself might come up with something
:original to help the problem rather than merely to insult those who ARE
:trying to help.  One does not have to look far beyond our borders to see
:the environmental damage and destruction to quality of life that overpopulation
:causes.  Just because the United States and Canada have the necessary wealth
:of resources to shield ourselves from the problem does not mean
:1. we will be able to do this forever
:2. we should not aid those who are not as lucky

One of the problems about jumping into a thread...

I only insult people who think I am insulting them (ie., only if you
read into my posts that I am insulting you). I grant a very absurd
answer, but if someone who really truly believed that the world was
going to fall in on itself and collapse that his/her death would make
this world a better place, then his/her death would be viewed as a
testament to his/her "compassion" to the Earth and its peoples and how
he/she should be a model to others. A martyr to the cause.

Overpopulation beyond the means of a nation or this world is
devastating, but to say that the US is going to overpopulate itself and
that we'll all starve sometime in the next 20 years (which I've been
hearing from a lot of people on this campus!) is completely ridiculous
and sensationalist. To be able to attack the problem you have to attack
the main causes of overpopulation, and one of the main causes to me is a
cultural perception. The dilemma in China is not going to be solved by
limiting families to one child per household if an entire culture has
been used to the blessings of having many children, particularly sons,
to carry on the family heritage. In this country, you have to change the
attitudes that "sex is okay when I feel like it" or you will just have
people "doing it" just to spite you and the policies you try to enact
will go the way of the Gramm-Rudman Deficit Reduction Act.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	Biomedical Engineering 1993
	THANK GOD IT'S BASKETBALL SEASON!!!!!
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
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