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From: michael@mikelpc.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Mike Lee)
Subject: Re: Change of Address for IEEE-CS member
Keywords: change of address ieee-cs acm
Reply-To: Mike.Lee@SanDiego.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR  Engineering & Manufacturing-San Diego
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:16:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.170019.2840@searchtech.com>, johnb@searchtech.com (John Baldwin) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>    Does anyone know the particular email address I should send to in order
|>    to notify of a change of address?
|> 
|> -- 
|> John Baldwin                                        johnb@searchtech.com
|> Search Technology, Inc.                             uupsi!srchtec!johnb
|> 4725 Peachtree Corners Circle, Suite 200            johnb@srchtec.uucp
|> Norcross, Georgia  30092   USA

I've used membership-services@ieee.org successfully.
It didn't exactly take effect immediately, though.
My mail got queued for a while first, then I got a response, then I
got another issue of COMPUTER at my old address, then all was fine.

Similarly for the ACM, you can use acmcoa@acmvm.bitnet with good
results.

-- 
Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: marinos@gmd.de (Louis Marinos)
Subject: ieee standard request
Keywords: ieee 802*
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:14:46 GMT

Dear Colleagues,

I was wandering if there are out there any possibilities to access
IEEE standardization information in an electronic form. I am
interested in IEEE 802* standards.

Any information about possible locations (ftp servers) containing this
information would be welcome.

Thanks in advance,


Louis Marinos

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Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: cjl@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Charles J. Lord)
Subject: Need CAD database of IEEE Symbol
Organization: Triangle R&D Corp,RTP,NC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:29:56 GMT


I am working on a graphics demo for promoting an IEEE conference and
would like to implement a "flying logo" of the IEEE symbol.  Has 
anyone got a CAD database of the IEEE symbol?  I know *someone* has
done this, because I have seen this effect before...

I hate to reinvent the wheel...

---
Charles Lord
cjl@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
From: ashford@austin.ibm.com (Jay Ashford)
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
Subject: Re: IEEE POSIX API activities
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:22:16 GMT
Organization: IBM Corp, Austin, Texas
Originator: ashford@sunset.austin.ibm.com


What sort of management APIs are you interested in?  P1003.7 is the 
system administration group.  There are efforts there that include
an API and CLI to printing, and a CLI for distributed install, plus
perhaps some work on user admin.  Is this the sort of thing you are
interested in, or some other sort of management?

Jay

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In article <1992Nov2.014744.29490@nmpd.oz.au>, you write:
> Does anyone know of any work (proposed or existing) within the IEEE POSIX area on management API's.
> 
> I belive that P1003.17 is addressing directory services.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Regards, Charles Moore.
> 
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> | Phone: +61 7 837 3403  | Network Management Protocol Development|  \_,-._/  |
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> 
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From: inde54q@Elroy.UH.EDU
Subject: Public Domain SPICE Location?
Reply-To: inde54q@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:26:33 GMT

Does anyone know of an FTP site where I can obtain a copy
of SPICE (Public Domain) for the IBM PC/compatible?

Thanx, in advance,

Daryl Santos
Daryl Santos			Graduate Student
1247 Wardmont			Dept. of Industrial Engineering
Houston, TX  77037		University of Houston
713.445.9683			713.743.4186
				inde54q@jetson.uh.edu
From: bbaker@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Bill Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
Subject: Call for papers: Hardware Accelerators for VLSI Design
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:39:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov6.203950.13603
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland WA
Originator: bbaker@beta.tricity.wsu.edu


                          
                            Call for Papers

                            Special Issue on

                 Hardware Accelerators for VLSI Design

VLSI DESIGN: An International Journal of Custom-Chip Design, Simulation and
Testing

A special issue of the VLSI Design Journal will be devoted to Hardware 
Accelerators for VLSI Design.  Topics of interest include, but are not 
limited to, the following:

	* Accelerators for logic simulation
	* Accelerators for analog simulation
	* Mixed analog/digital simulation acceleration
	* Parallel architectures for simulation acceleration
	* Placement, routing, and design-rule-check engines
	* Parallel, distributed simulation algorithms
	* Accelerators for VLSI testing and fault simulation

Instructions for Submitting Manuscripts

Manuscripts should be no more than 25 double-spaced pages (about 6000 words)
in lenth including all figures and references.  Papers must not have been
previously published or currently submitted for publication elsewhere.
Manuscripts should have a title page that includes the title of the paper,
full name(s) and affliation(s) of the author(s), complete physical and
electronic address(es), telephone number(s), and an abstract.

DEADLINES

	* Four copies of the full manuscript are due by March 1, 1993
	* Notification of acceptance is July 1, 1993.


Send Submissions and Questions to:

Dr. Ausif Mahmood, Guest Editor
School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Washington State University at Tri-Cities
100 Sprout Road
Richland, WA 99352

Phone: (509) 375-9234
Email: mahmood@beta.tricity.wsu.edu


Dr. George W. Zobrist, Editor-in-Chief
Department of Computer Science
University of Missouri-Rolla
Rolla, MO 65401

Phone: (314) 341-4492
Email: c2816@umrvmb.umr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: phil@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Green)
Subject: e-mail address of IEEE service centre ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand
Date:  6 Nov 92 14:33:15 GMT

Does anyone have an e-mail address for the IEEE service centre ?

Thanks in advance

--

Philip Green  (MSc student)          phil@concave.cs.wits.ac.za
Department of Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand
2050 Wits, South Africa
From: keves@meaddata.com (Brian Keves)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
Subject: Re: SUG directors election
Date: 10 Nov 1992 21:50:59 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton Ohio
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedoors.meaddata.com

In article <Bx08ty.BDI@rice.edu> canuck@masc.rice.edu (Mike Pearlman) writes:
>The other pressing concern is the question asked by someone on a topic
>totally unrelated to the board elections. Why become a SUG member?
>If you happen to be a Usenix member I am unable to supply you with
>an answer to this question other than discounts on books and the SUG CDs.
>I can say that our local user group in Houston is active although most
>of its members are not members of SUG. The SUG board members that I know
>are very receptive to suggestions about what you the membership would
>like to see SUG become. So why not send mail to them with suggestions
>or use this newsgroup as a forum for discussion.

Speaking as the former charter president for the San Diego Sun Local User
Group from 1988-1990 I would have to say I am extremely disappointed in
the International SUG's commitment to the local user group. Almost
every program they tried to get off the ground failed and we didn't see any
support from them during the time I was there. From my contacts on
SDSLUG now I found this has not changed in the last two years either.
We received more support from the local SUN office than from SUG.

As far as I know the CD and the conferences have been the only things
happening and I didn't buy the CD because I can get all of this off
the net and I don't go to the conferences because they are too close to
the Usenix conferences or too close to the holidays to be of any good.
I can't justify going to them.

Basically I have written SUG off. I took the election this year as the
sign that SUG had ceased to be a viable technical concern. From the
discussion going on here I feel that might have been an extreme position
to take so I may re-evaluate it. 

My current gripe is that my README still hasn't caught up with me
since I moved 18 months ago. |:-) See signature below if someone wants
to expedite it.

Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,mi.misc
From: troll@sug.org (A. Newman)
Subject: Re: SUG memberships
Organization: Sun User Group
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:28:55 GMT

In article <1dniesINNfl0@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>Let me get this straight, Semislug (meeting Thursday in Ann Arbor, by the
>way) cannot call itself a "Sun User Group" without incurring the wrath of
>SUG Central?  I suppose next you bear down on unauthorized use of LUG (tm)
>by other Local User Groups from other vendors?
>
>sheesh,
>
>  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
>        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
>  (see the MSEN Gopher, gopher.msen.com, for the SEMiSLUG announcement)
>
>A. Newman (troll@sug.org) wrote:
>: 
>: >>*  Local User Group Support
>: 
>: The LUGs are separate entities form SUG....  
>: However, you cannot use the
>: name 'Sun USer Group', our logo or our letterhead - and, in fact,
>: we've had to request that some of the foreign groups stop doing so.

Edward, 

I'm afraid you've taken my words out of context.  Frank had asked if
he could use the SUG name, logo, or letterhead to solicit for
donations from vendors.  The answer is, of course, 'no'.  The Sun User
Group is a not-for-profit corporation, it would jeopardize our legal
standing if we permitted the local user groups to use our name, not to
mention irritate all the vendors who thought they were donating to us,
and therefore getting a tax write-off.

Sorry for the confusion,

Alex Newman
Sun User Group



Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: SUG directors election
Organization: Inland Sea
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:40:55 GMT

From: paw@coos.dartmouth.edu (Pat Wilson)

>Funny - I've been on the nominating comittee for Usenix (a multi-million
>dollar non-profit corporation), and _they_ have mechanisms in place
>for allowing members to nominate people for the Board.

bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:

>You've gotten the wrong impression here somewhere, members of SUG can
>certainly nominate other members to run for the board. In fact, that's
>the only way anyone gets on the ballot. . . .

Since Pat hasn't followed up on this particular point, I'll take a risk
and go by what I thought she was saying.....

There is a nominations committee for USENIX which is charged with the
duty of ensuring that there are enough candidates to make a minimum
slate.  While this committee hasn't been perfect in the past, it has
ensured that there are enough qualified and willing people for every
office on the USENIX board.  We took that committee as an example in
doing the SAGE nominations.  The result was a large set of candidates
from the self-nominated (allowed under SAGE bylaws), the committee
picks, and encouragement by other members.  SUG should take a lesson
from this.
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
		-- Steve Simmons, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: SUG directors election
Organization: The World
	<1dpc47INNjhm@newmdata.meaddata.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:39:40 GMT


>How about, oh I don't know, posting to comp.orgs.sug?

Now c'mon, calls for nomination were indeed posted to comp.org.sug.

>Or sending out
>a special mailer to a person's e-mail address? Even physical address?

We did that, it's called README, one has to flip through it though and
at least glance at the headlines. How many thousands should we spend
on mailings for calls for nomations?

I'm sorry if your README did not come to you due to a change in
address, obviously that can happen. But that's a bit different than
saying we were not trying to publicize nominations. If your address
was wrong with us (perhaps due to our fault) then you would not have
gotten a special mailer either, right?

I really think this discussion is degenerating, we did what people are
suggesting, people didn't bother to read the sources, I don't
understand what we are supposed to do? Walk up to every member and
shout in their ear?

As I've said before: SUG Elections occur every year in time for the
conference. In order for that to happen calls for nominations begin in
the Summer and close around Sept some time. This has been true for
several years.

Put this in your calender file:

7/15		Time for SUG nominations

Now you'll never miss it.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,mi.misc
Subject: Re: SUG memberships
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:28:29 GMT
Organization: The World


>Let me get this straight, Semislug (meeting Thursday in Ann Arbor, by the
>way) cannot call itself a "Sun User Group" without incurring the wrath of

Words of One Syllable Dept:

They cannot represent themselves as THE Sun User Group, as that is a
trademark and would be a fraud.

To represent oneself generically as a Sun user group is something else
entirely.

I think this problem is pretty much hypothetical, if a LUG needs
something they should just call us, we'll try to get them what they
want.

But I'd sure hate to hear from the IRS that we haven't claimed a bunch
of equipment donated to THE Sun User Group which we know nothing
about, for example.


-- 
        -Barry Shein

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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: SUG directors election
Organization: The World
	<1992Oct26.135659.29048@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Oct30.054233.6273@menudo.uh.edu>
	<1992Oct30.164939.19048@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<BZS.92Oct31224433@ussr.std.com>
	<1992Nov6.174055.3307@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:53:22 GMT


From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
>There is a nominations committee for USENIX which is charged with the
>duty of ensuring that there are enough candidates to make a minimum
>slate.

There was a SUG nominations committee, and when things looked not so
great some of us also jumped in and pounded the streets a bit. I don't
know how many people were approached, but it was a lot more than
ultimately agreed to run. I suppose we could always hypothesize
arbitrarily more time and effort that could be spent on this.

Usenix has often had to work hard to get candidates. I've never seen
an election where all slots were challenged. In their most recent
election President, Vice President and Secty were all run
unchallenged. Yet you've gotten the impression that somehow Usenix is
at the extreme other end of the spectrum on this issue from SUG? Odd.

I applaud SAGE for getting a large and good looking slate of
candidates for their first election, it really does look good and I'm
as excited about SAGE as you are (I am sort of involved), but let's
compare notes again in five or ten years as you burn-out a lot of your
initial activists and there's less empire-building and more
maintenance in the job.

It's just the nature of user groups, you have a core of good, activist
people, and then a lot of people who just honestly don't have the time
or some other conflict that prevents them from serving in such a major
capacity, for no money, etc. On the two boards and twenty directors
I've seen go buy I only know of one who's directorship survived his or
her first child...for example, and damn that's reasonable, we'll wait
fifteen years and bug them again!

Anyhow, the important thing is MAKING STUFF HAPPEN.

That's the real goal. The rest is details.

--
        -Barry Shein

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Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
From: davison@menudo.uh.edu (Dan Davison)
Subject: CDDI (100 MB/sec on twisted pair) at Houston Sun User Group
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:14:30 GMT


The Houston Users Group for Suns meeting is Tuesday, November 10th at
the Sun Microsystems office, 12 E. Greenway Plaza. 

The founder and CEO of Crescendo Corporation, Marty Mazolla,the developers
of 100 mbit/sec twisted pair ethernet, will discuss the capabilities of
FDDI over twisted pair (CDDI) and its relationship to ethernet, 10 Base T,
ATM, and other emerging high-speed data transport topics. This should be
a good meeting!

The schedule for the next few months looks like this:
December: NO MEETING!
January: Vector Technologies, on the Kalpana Etherswitch.


vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Any and all suggestions for speakers are welcome!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Meeting Date/Time:  Tuesday, November 10.  Social hour starts at 5:30,
meeting starts at 6:30pm.  Please note:  Security locks the doors
at 7pm, so arrive before 7 if you want in!

Meeting Location: Houston Sun Office, located in Suite 1500 of 12
Greenway Plaza.  Parking will be available in the garage across the
street (Colquitt) with a limited amount of parking available on the
street itself. (Sun has offered to validate parking.)

A badly rendered map follows the text of this message.

Everyone is welcome.  If you have any questions, contact me
at: davison@uh.edu or 713-743-8366



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-------------------------+ Colquitt
  (12 Greenway           |         
      plaza)             |Edloe    
                         |         
-------------------------+---------+----Richmond
                         |         |
                         |         |
                         |         |
 <-- 610, SW Hell,-----------------+---  US-59   downtown ---->
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			 |         |
			 |         |Buffalo Speedway (a Monty Python name
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Houston/4800 Calhoun/Houston,TX 77204-5934/davison@uh.edu/DAVISON@UHOU

-----RIP Isaac Asimov 1920-1992     I'll miss him --------------------

Disclaimer: As always, I speak only for myself, and, usually, only to
myself.

Newsgroups: comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.org.uniforum
From: peter@sug.org (Peter Salus)
Subject: SUG Conference (short posting)
Organization: The Sun User Group
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:14:44 GMT

[This is the brief posting.  I will post the full program next 
week. - PHS]

SUG's 10th Anniversary!  

The December 7-10 Conference and Exhibition will be 
the tenth birthday for the Sun User Group.  For this 
special event, we have arranged a program that should be of
interest to everyone in the Sun/SPARC technical community.
The Exhibition, which is being arranged by PCI, promises 
to be an exceptionally broad-based one.

Monday, December 7th, will feature at least nine tutorials.
Among these will be:
	(1) Matt Bishop, Dartmouth College,
		Advanced UNIX Security

	(2a) Brent Chapman, Great Circle Associates,
		Preparing for Disaster
			and
	(2b) Bob Baldwin, Tandem Computers,
		Why have Computer Security

	(3) Smoot Carl-Mitchell, Texas Internet Consulting,
		Sun Network Debugging

	(4) Tom Christiansen, Convex Computer Corporation,
		Topics in Perl

	(5) Jeffrey S. Haemer, Canary Software,
		Programming in POSIX
	
	(6) Kenneth Ingham, consultant,
		UNIX Programming Tools

	(7) William LeFebvre, Northwestern University,
		The Internet and its Protocols

	(8) Dinah McNutt, Tivoli Systems,
		Introduction to UNIX System Administration

	(9) Craig Rudlin, MD, Medical Software and Computer Systems,
		Integrating C Code and Xt Widgets
	

The theme for the conference will be ``Solaris 2.0 and 
Alternatives.''  As a consequence, the Tuesday morning keynote 
address will be given by Steve Bourne, of SunSoft,
the originator of the Bourne shell and manager of the 
Solaris development program at Sun.  He will speak about:
		Solaris 2.0 and the future

Carrying the conference forward will be Wednesday's 
luncheon speaker, Michael Tiemann of Cygnus, who will
speak on the Operating Systems of the next decade,
and Thursday morning's keynote, Rob Kolstad of
BSDI, who will speak on ``BSD on the SPARC.''

Over 50 papers and panels!  REGISTER NOW!

If you just want to go to the exhibits, call for a 
free show-only pass.

=====================================================
for registration and further information, phone:
	+1 512 331-7761
	+1 800 727-EXPO
or email:
	sugshow@pcinews.lonestar.org

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