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From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Building Leather Suits
Keywords: zippers, crashing
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:35:15 GMT

In article <133130@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> turner@rastaman.llnl.gov (David Turner) writes:
>The recent threads about crash protection have got me thinking about my biking
>apparel again.  I usually wear a thick, rather generic biker leather jacket 
>and denim jeans.  I was thinking of getting some thick, rather generic biker 
>leather pants.  And then crashing.  But I'm worried about the jacket "riding 
>up", exposing my soft white underbelly to injury and public ridicule.  So I'm
>wondering: is it feasible to add a strong zipper, or zippers, to the bottom of
>my leather jacket and the top of my soon-to-be-acquired leather pants?  And be

	I have chaps and a Hein Gericke leather jacket, but have been thinking
	about some way to put them together also, as I suspect my underbelly
	qualifies as soft and only slightly tanned... not good for road
	grading work :-( 

	I think a zipper would be tough to pull off, as everything would have
	to fit very closely together (i.e. bottom of jacket and top of pants).
	I was thinking of using straps to buttons on the tops of my chaps and
	the inside of the bottom of my leather jacket, maybe one on each side
	of my belt buckle in front and one in the middle of my back. This would
	be easy to put on and take off, and the jacket wouldn't look strange
	if worn without the pants/chaps.

	If anyone has any other recommendations, I haveyn't tried any of this,
	this is all theory (that's what the net's for, right?)

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From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:15:56 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Aug13.102054.6869@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
> problem but then what do you expect from a country with such a wonderful
> political/social system, insane gun laws, 55mph speed limits, topless bans,
                                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> economical well made cars, innovative motorcycles, responsible companies,
> 
> Nick (the American Biker)          DoD 1069

Nick,

Who in their right bloody mind is going to go topless in dear old blighty?

On the 2.5 days a year that the sun is actually out, it's too damn cold!

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541                           |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:45:33 GMT

dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer) writes:

>  A couple of spark plugs over your shoulder while he's on your butt
>  should do the trick. It does an awful lot of damage to his paint
>  job and/or windsheild. But don't stick around long afterwards!

  Wouldn't a couple of rocks/stones be a little easier to explain though?

  "Gee, they must have gotten kicked up when I was trying not to get run over
   by that asshole..."

  It's pretty amazing how high a stone will bounce when dropped from a vehicle
moving at highway speeds.  Most times it's just higher than the hood ornament.

  As for the paintballs, if you want to use one, why not just lob one of
those over your shoulder on the way out of sight?  

  Of course, my vote is to just get out of the assholes way.  It's the safest 
and easiest thing to do.

-Matth
--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Subject: Re: Cleaning O ring chains
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:59:01 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
: anyone know if WD-40 is ok for cleaning O-ring chains?  a friend told me
: Motorcyclist (or maybe Cycle World?) recommended it...
: axel
WD-40 is _not_ ok . It has solvents in it that cause the o-rings to swell,
thus accelerating their wear. Then when the solvents eventually dissipate
the rings shrink and lose their ability to seal the grease in and dirt out.
------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
                              edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
                              (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: political correctness (was: Re: rec.moto.harley)
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:47:38 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA


You know, I really must protest the discussion of that oustanding triumph
of british engineering, Spagthorpe motorcycles, in this common and vulgar
forum, rec.motorcycles.

Such a prestigious marque is certainly worthy if its' own newsgroup, and
I hereby propose a rec.apotheosis.Spagthorpe.  Those individuals worthy
of the honor would be granted permission to peruse the newsgroup and
to submit articles in praise of said marque.

Sir Fortescue Stukehorn, CBE DoD DoReMi

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541                           |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jyri@faline..bellcore.com (Jyri Virkki)
Subject: Re: Cager penile size (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Reply-To: jyri@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.165811.24544@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>...
>>Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the group with the highest
>>rate of trying to do this kind of thing are the minivan drivers? I mean,
>>what is it with these people? They drive what is probably the most 
>
>Speaking as a motorcyclist and minivan driver, no I haven't noticed that.

Ahh, but being a biker you wouldn't make that mistake...

>>pathetic excuse for a motor vehicle, and 11 out of 13 of them will do
>
>Well, my pathetic excuse for a motor vehicle is comfortable, has good
>visibility, gets reasonable gas mileage, and can haul a couple of bikes,
>or full sheets of drywall.  I no longer had a reasonable excuse to
>buy a truck instead of a multi-purpose vehicle.

Yeah, and you forgot to mention safety. Where's the world going to? We had
Volvo-owning bikers, and now minivan-owning bikers? Scary...

Jyri

Jyri J. Virkki - Bellcore, Morristown, NJ - jyri@thumper.bellcore.com - DoD#561
(201) 829-4213 - jyri@rummat3.upr.clu.edu - jyri@rmece47.upr.clu.edu
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:56:59 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <16tpunINN3o3@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> In article 595@ncsu.edu, jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>>Screw this "Follow the guy home stuff"
>>
>>The way to find out this guy's address is to 
>>go down to the DMV and ask for it or write them
>>a letter.  I don't think you can just call.  I also
>>don't know if they can ask you why you need it.
> 
> ..so what you do instead is bribe a DMV clerk, or hack into their
> system.
> 

you GUYS.  to imagine that people PAY you to think for a living. 

you just get the address, go down to city hall and look up the address
in the tax records.  it'll tell you who owns the property and how much
they paid in taxes on it last year.  or you can go to the local public
library and look up the address in a reverse telephone directory.  or
you can park down the street, wait half an hour, walk up to the front
door and look at the name on the mail box. 

remember, there is NEVER a good reason to involve ANY government
agency in a search for information.

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Yielding right of way(tailgaters).
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:51:45 GMT


	ONE experience I had with tailgaters in New Brunswick (CA) was
	infuriating.  These two assholes(tm) were right up my hole(tm)
	in a camaro (btw, MOST Camaro/T.Am/IROC-Z/etc drivers fit some
	weird sort of asshole(tm) stereotype).  I said to myself: 'OK,
	I'll pull nearer the shoulder, and wave them on'.  Yeah they passed
	me alright, about 1 foot away from my left handlebar.  They barely
	used the vacant lane.  Then they held me up by driving slower.
	I would have attempted passing quickly but they were too shit heady
	for that manouvre, and the roads in NB suck hard.

	Be careful out there.  'We're all in this together' (Brazil)


	Aside:  Some of the US netters are saying that if you stare at
	Mr. Tailgater, you may get the slug in the forehead deal.  Maybe
	that's why I like living in Canada, no handguns in every glovebox.
	I think one netter said he had a gun with him on his bike?  Yikes.
	
-- 
  
    Craig Hamm, 		From 'Viz', Victor Pratt, the stupid twat
    Memorial University	        Biker: "My bike's got a flat, Vic"
    DoD #1500,           	Vic:   "Really? Whereabouts is it living?"
    '81 Maxim 650 
    ----

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Yamaha XZ550 opinions?
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:55:02 PDT

It appears that I am about to "inherit" an '82 Yamaha XZ550.  Can anyone
tell me anything about this model in general?  This particular specimen
has some cosmetic damage, has been improperly stored for the last year
or so (on sidestand, petcock open), and has a major oil leak.  I am
without a bike since I smashed mine into a concrete retaining wall and
went sliding down the freeway a few months ago, so the prospect of even
some fairly major repairs don't phase me in the face of an essentially
free bike, as long as the model itself isn't a known piece of shit.

Any comments one way or the other?  Please e-mail me if you can.  We
have students returning in a couple of weeks, so I am way too busy right
now to follow a group as active as this one.  Thanks...

--
|  Greg Orman  DoD#486                 greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|      I'm thinking of trying hangliding next.  Anyone else?      |
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:42:16 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <s93m1q_.rudi@netcom.com> rudi@netcom.com (Rudolf Usselmann) writes:

>Anything I should look out for when buying a used VMAX ?

Roads with corners :-)
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Warning! "Fuck" and "Shit" appear in this article
Keywords: horns
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:15:27 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <4c#n8bq.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
>"Nothing is as overrated as a bad ride, or as underrated as a good post."

I like this. I really like this.

jim
-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "I'd like a large Ducati, with extra 'g's."  * 
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | "Would you like that delivered?"             * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | "No, I'll come pick it up."                  * 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss)
Subject: Closet UJM fans (was: New Kawasaki)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:57:23 GMT

In Message-ID: <1992Aug18.130931.6458@linus.mitre.org>,
pab@security.mitre.org (Paul A. Bicknell) writes:
 
>I know that there are a lot of closet UJM fans out there. I for one am
>happy that the manufactorers are filling that design gap between sport
>bikes and cruisers.

 Yeah, so I waste 8 years in college, sans-a-Bike,
 I got the MS in SCIENCE!!,
 I got the girlfriend,
 I got the career-type-job,
 I got the 250 motocrosser,
 I got rid of the 250 motocrosser,
 I gets the handy-man special house,
 I gets the new bathroom in the house,
 I gets the new wife,
 I gets another 250 motocrosser,
 I gets the brand new $18K kitchen for the wifey-pooh,

 So now, I wants the street bike to park in the garage next to
the 250 motoXer...hmm, not enough Kopeks in the ol' Babushka (as
Super Hunky Rick Seimann used to say).

 I'm interested in finding an '86 Honda 700 NightHawk S...(That's why
this is titled 'Closet UJM fans').  My best friend had one in '84 and
I think Honda continued to make them until '86.  I think it satisfies
the UJM criterion, and I would like to hear from anyone who knows anything
about the 700 NightHawk S, or any comments about it.  I've been riding
dirt bikes for 20 years, and this would be my first street bike.

Mucho Thanks,

Tim Seiss
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 12 Aug 1992 13:27:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Aug11130450@win30.nas.nasa.gov, jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>So the AMA is a great group, *IF* you're the sort of person who gets
>married...  Or for the gay/les bikers, *ALLOWED* to get married.
>
>Grrr.  Fume.   The AMA is going to get a letter about this.

The AMA doesn't set the rates.

*You* go out and find an insurance company that will underwrite
coverage for all members of your national organization, on any bike,
with any experience record, in any state, and at a competative rate for
each individual circumstance.  Good luck.

What you will finally go with is the best overall deal you can find,
which will be with a company with gobs of experience in insuring
motorcycles, but that doesn't offer coverage in every state and DC, and
that is *generally* competative.  Then somebody will write you a nasty
letter because *your* insurance plan, in *his* state, is not the lowest
priced plan available for his current circumstances and type of
motorcycle, and he doesn't like the metrics your undercarrier's
actuaries use to set their rates, none of which you have any control
over.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 09:47:32 PDT
Organization: Vector Zero

parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:

>                                   This was something I learned back in
> cage ed ^h^h^h^h^h^h driver's ed: The space around your vehicle that 
> is the eeasiest to control is the space in front. Place your lousiest
> drivers there.

     Nonono..  The space easiest to control is the little blurry
speck in your mirror.  Ie, dust 'em and forget 'em and never
worry about 'em again (unless they catch up at a stoplight...  Where
you can dust them yet again).

--Jon

   jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US                Life is like a kiwi.
   PacBell.COM!sactoh0!vector0!jon

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: CA Rain Grooves (Was Chaps and grooves)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:55:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.171443.20080@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
	 shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes...
>You point the bike in the desired direction and not worry about it.  Those
>studded metal grate bridges are much more grating on the nerves than
	(groan) Watch out, KotP, you've got competition!
>simple grooved pavement.  My personal favorite is the latest paving
>craze: loose gravel over oil.  The two inch ridges of loose gravel
>are especially pleasurable when they're nice and fresh.
	They resurfaced the main street in my village the other day.  Took
two days to do it.  When I came home the first day, I found the road full
of pea-sized gravel coated in tar but not (steam-)rolled.  So of course they
preferred to stick to my tyres rather than the road.  Interesting cornering
when your tyres are coated with little bearing balls.  I had to stop and wipe
them off both tyres.
>                                                    
Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Scorpio alarm: anyone interested?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:57:14 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <my9m97=.blave@netcom.com>, blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
|> I just got done installing the Scorpio alarm on my brand used CBR1000.
|> Much cursing was involved but I managed not to set the bike on fire in
|> the process, and it actually works.  If anyone's interested, I can email
|> or post a review/install overview.

yup, interested.  if you don't post a review, can you email me your thoughts
at ae0s@andrew.cmu.edu?

thanx!

axel

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Subject: Re: Cleaning O ring chains
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:28:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
: In article <1992Aug18.160444.20183@aber.ac.uk> azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
: >All the info says use parraffin, which gets the crap off and doesnt eat the
: >O-rings. Paraffin is not easy to get round my way and I'm reluctant to get 
: >a load in if diesel (which I put in the Landrover anyway) does the job equally
: >well.

: Usually I just lay on the sofa with a cool wash cloth on my forehead and my
: feet up a bit until the urge goes away.  When the urge becomes overwhelming
: I use kerosene and a turkey baster.
: I have 17,000 + miles on the chain and it still has a few miles left.  The
: kerosene can't be hurting it too much.  
: Ride Clean,
: Bill
: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email
--

Umnm, uh Bill, Paraffin is British language usage for Kerosene. He can't
find any.
------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
                              edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
                              (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rbbims@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: DoD #'s
Reply-To: rbbims@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:48:05 GMT

ok......we don't know what Dod# means......and if we did......
you'd have to kill us.....but to do that.....you'd also have
to get past my friend S. Ruger (44 mcal.).....now...we
don't know what the FAQ is.....will you have to kill us
for this also?

Bob and friend
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Mr. Darkman (was: Re: RE Mr. Small)
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Aug18.134842.16852@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:40:30 GMT

On Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:48:42 GMT, jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) said:

John> To:  Mary Shafer,
John> 	If you were indeed involved in the decisions prior to the 
John> 	Challenger accident, I would appreciate your comments.

I'm a flying qualities engineer, working mostly on high performance
aircraft (fighters, for example).  My only relationship with the
Challenger was that the pilot, Dick Scobee, was a good friend who
I'd first met when he flew our F-111 TACT.

The first A in NASA stands for aeronautics and that's me and the
rest of Dryden.

As to the rest of it, all I know is what I've read in the various
reports.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
--
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: radar detectors
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:18:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug12.201841.13358
Distribution: na
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1435@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>Other than going fast enough to be in the next county by the time the
>police officer decides to give pursuit, anyone know how to beat instant
>on radar?

Sure.  Simple.  The same way I beat regular radar.  I use my onboard
optical cop spotters.  I.e., I keep my eyes open, and maintain awareness
of the world around me.  I'm already doing that to stay alive, and
it doesn't take a whole lot of concentration to also scan for police.
When in doubt, I just make sure I'm at or below the limit.  I've been
stopped once for speeding in the past 15 years, when I was zoning out,
and pacing the car in front of me.  He slowed suddenly, and by the time
I reacted, the squad car was passing me; I saw brake lights a few seconds later,
so I slowed down and just waited for him to catch up.

Oh, the result.  I treated him with respect, told him the truth (I didn't
know how fast I was going until he told me - 56 in a 45), and didn't
hassle him.  He gave me a warning ticket and a friendly admonishment
to be more careful, and I got a court appearance because I couldn't
find my insurance card in the car.  (The following day, I received a
handy folder for keeping my vehicle documents from my insurance
agent, but that's another story... :')
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
Which is worse: using vast wealth to trounce a small country on the battlefield,
or using vast wealth to trounce several countries on the basketball court?