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From: dnichols@shindig (DoN. Nichols)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna VA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:35:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.141402.6397@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.051545.3526@gagme.chi.il.us>, wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer) writes:
>|> I DO have a /usr/spool/smail directory AND a /usr/lib/smail directory,
>|> but my binary is sendmail which lives in /usr/bin/sendmail.  In the
>|> /usr/lib/smail are such things as routers, aliases, mkpath and all of
>|> that, yet no smail binary.
>
>As smail is "plug compatible" with sendmail, perhaps it got installed as
>/usr/bin/sendmail. Try typing

	Also, the normal installation location for sendmail on the 3b1 (and
most other machines which I have seen) is /usr/lib/sendmail.  While it is
possible that someone compiled sendmail to live in /usr/bin, it is unusual,
to say the least, and it makes it more likely that it is really smail.

	Good Luck.
		DoN.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: costello@tolsun.oulu.fi (Antti Jarvinen)
Subject: GCC 2.x for miniframe
Keywords: gcc, miniframe
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:17:24 GMT

Has anyone successfully built GCC v2.x for Convergent Miniframe?
If yes, could you please tell me how to obtain the binaries. Thank you.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel)
Subject: shform question: Self-modifing menus?
Keywords: shform menu form 3b1 unixpc 7300
Reply-To: query@hico2.westmark.com
Organization: High Country Software
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:08:15 GMT


This is a question for people who've messed around with shform.

I'd like to be able to modify a sub-menu while I'm running
a form in shform.  If I can get a menu to use a menu defined
in another file for one of its submenus, I think I can swing
it reasonably easily, as shown below.
I figure a separate menu can be kept pretty simple,
and thus easy to modify automaticly.
But editing form1.form on the fly would be pretty messy.

Anybody out there who's fooled around with shform
know if there is some way to do this, or if 
there's an easy way of mantaining a modifable sub-menu?

Kris A. Kugel	908-842-2707
hico2!query	query@hico2.westmark.com

status='rerun'

while [ status == 'rerun' ]
do
	status='exit'
	RET=`shform -u form1.form`
	...
	eval set $RET

	case $1 in
		Creat)

		RET=`shform -u form2`
		if [ "$?" != "0" ]
		then
			message $ERROR1
			exit
		fi
#
# now, let's say you want to add any uniq new entries.
#
		if fgrep "Name=$2" menu2
		then
			;
		else
			# (use the returned information to update menu2)
			echo "Name=$2" >> menu2
		fi
		status='rerun'
		;;
	...
done
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:03:16 GMT

In <1993Jan6.141402.6397@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk
	(Philip Hazel) writes:

> ...Try typing

> /usr/bin/sendmail -V

> If it says something like

> /\==/\ Smail....

> then it's smail...

Then it's Smail 3.1.x, you mean.  Not related to smail 2.5 or 2.7 or 4.x
or any such thing.  (BTW, the "/\==/\" is irreverently called "bat-wings"
among those in the Smail 3.1 know :-)

Gary
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From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Yet Another 3B1 Sighting
Date: 12 Jan 1993 06:58:50 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer User Services
Distribution: na
	<1993Jan11.232943.26533@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: menudo.uh.edu
In-reply-to: guy@cbnewsc.cb.att.com's message of Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:29:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.232943.26533@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> guy@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (guy.r.berentsen) writes:

    A few years ago I stayed in a chain  motel (Knight's Inn?) 
   about 1/2 between New York & Chicago that
   was using a 3b1 to keep track of reservations and customer bills.
   It was sitting on the lobby desk with two or three terminals and 
   a printer attached.

The hotel where HoHo Con was held had a 7300 at the front desk.  I am
not sure what they use it for, but it was running.  I thought it was
kinda funny to see it there, since the hotel was really conservative
and a real pain to us at the Con...

-dennis
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From: steve@zero.com (Steve Urich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Cable (and other details) for 720/800K flop
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:11:23 GMT
Organization: Beyonet - Zero Network

In <95986@rphroy.ph.gmr.com>, rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
[...]
>a manual switch to toggle the drive select line. I
>do this with my 7300.]
This is the way to do it.

>You should be able to be buy an appropriate cable that
>connects directly at any store that handles PC-clone
PC-Clone cables do not have the same pinout as the UNIX-PC. They have a
twist in them. Make your own cables.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: roger@booth.uucp (Roger Abrahams)
Subject: Re: rs232 computer connection
Organization: Private System
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:41:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.161859.17117@colnet.cmhnet.org> res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>
>This is from memory, so it may not be 100 percent accurate.  There was a
>design bug found in an early version of the 8530 chip that was used in some
>later versions of the serial and combo cards.  The card was redesigned to
>cut costs, and the redesign uncovered the bug.  I'm not sure of the revision
>number of the affected cards, but I know the "E" series was clean, so the
>problem was introduced after that, I think around "G" or so.  If you have
>a board that has one silver box instead of two crystals on it, it has the
>potential for being affected.

[more deletions]

>AT&T used to send you a free good 8530 if you complained that you
>had these symptoms.  I doubt the offer is still good.

FYI:  The original "bad" chip was made by AMD, and the replacement
was a Zilog.  The date on my copy of the instruction is October
of 1987.

Something when wrong the first time I posted this, so I am trying
again...

>-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc
From: pcg2@ra.msstate.edu (Patrick C Greer)
Subject: Miscellaneous Questions
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:03:38 GMT

Ok, now that I'm back at school, I can ask some of the questions I have wanted 
ask about general stuff.

1)  I have my extrenal modem working in Hayes mode, but my 3B1 occasionally
sends a getty and then a login prompt to my modem.  I'm a little confused
why it does this, and it causes my computer to almost halt completely.  I can't
type very well when this happens.  Sometimes, it just goes away but I have no 
why.  Also, did anyone else have to change their gettydefs file in order to
use a hayes modem?  The AT int AT\&T was causing problems.  


2) A lot of small gas dealers (propane suppliers) bought 3B1's because they
were being offered by a company (I forgot the name) along with some accounting
and business software designed for the propane business.  I have a friend who
has one of these machines for his business but he is rapidly running out of
space on his hard drive.  Is there anything I might be able to suggest to him 
that he could do to solve this problem that would not nullify his service 
contract with NCR?  He still needs that support.  The company that wrote
the software does remote upgrades, but they are very sloppy about it.  
The company he bought the whole package from is offering him an upgrade
for $800.00 where he can send off his 3B1 and they will convert it into
a DOS machine.  They will remove all the unix system files and change the
system completely!  (What a waste!)  I advised him not to do this, but
he needs some kind of solution for his problem.  Any suggestions?

3)  I have the man package off Ohio-State, and I was considering an
idea while I was home this last month.  What would be the big differences
in the man pages for a 3B2 running UNIX 3.2?  Would the basic commands
be the same.  I am considering trying to port these man pages to my 3B1
and see what happens.  Anyone tried to do this?  How different are the two
versions of UNIX?  

4) Finally:  Is there a way to configure the stock uucp to use an
external hayes modem, or do I need to break down and get HDB or Taylor?

5) P.S.  I need some help installing some of the libraries on Ohio-State's
archives like dirent.cpio.Z.  Anyone else who has done this, please let me know.



						Thanks,
						Chris

Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: NEW 7300's in Chicago
Summary: Warehouse eviction notice necessitates sale
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:04:01 GMT

There are fewer 7300's than there were but, because the warehouse may soon
be closed to the owner of the 7300's, he's in a hurry to get rid of them.

	1 meg ram, 20 meg hard drive, Foundation Set including manuals and
	floppies (NOT Development Set), other standard features, 30 day
	warranty.

		$295 each
		$260 each for orders of 50 or more
		$160 each for entire inventory (about 900) 
			(about 400 NON-functioning, non-warranteed
			 units thrown in FREE. No Found Set included.)

	Same configuration, NON-functioning, without warranty, without
	Foundation Set (bugs unidentified. Past DOA machines have
	included monitor brightness control turned down, bad ram chip, bad
	nand gate in mapping ram ckt)

		$60 each
		Negotiable if in lots of 50 or more
		$00.00 ZERO if entire inventory of good 7300's is
		       purchased
		     
	4000 Foundation Sets in shrink wrap

		$60 each
		$ discount negotiable for quantity orders

	Approximately 10 EIA/RAM Combo boards 

		$160 each - no warranty. They are new but have been moved
			    around.
		$120 each - entire inventory (will count if serious order
				received.

20% down, include address, specify quantity and item. Full refund if order
not consumated.


Frank        

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:20:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.041940.8007@blilly.uucp> lilb@sony.compuserve.com
(Bruce Lilly) writes:
>In article <C04BCM.Lz5@fang.att.com>,
>> I have read the documentation for sendmail, consider myself fairly
>>computer literate, and sendmail.cf's still make blood run out of my ears!
>
>Why is that?  sendmail.cf is a very simple file format.

Several reasons:

  - The documentation is woefully inadequate.

  - Not everything is configurable.  Some processing is
    handled by magic inside the sendmail binary, and is
    not configurable.  If I had access to all the
    interesting tokens from sendmail.cf, I'd be much
    happier with sendmail.

Once I finally figured out how to configure it, sendmail
did everything I wanted it to do (almost; I haven't bothered
to configure it to rewrite uucp-format return addresses properly).
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: NETOPRWM@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: New 3b1'er (FAQ request)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:15:43 GMT

In article <C0Hpvr.4x4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James) writes:
 
>
>Having recently acquired a 3b1 (and before I start asking a
>lot of silly questions) could someone post or send me the FAQ.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>  Michael James   james@falhrd.msd.anl.gov
>                 "Wouldn't it be great if insecurity and desperation
>                  made us more attractive?" -- Albert Brooks, Broadcast News
>
too would like to request the FAQ for this group.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Re: New 3b1'er (FAQ request)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 17:11:47 GMT

frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins) writes:
>AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHATEVER BECAME OF THAT GAL WHO WAS GOING TO PUBLISH
>FAQ? I haven't seen a posting of the FAQ since she acknowledged she was
>taking over. Have I been "behind the door" when the FAQ's were being handed
>out?

Good question...  I havent seen one come out in ages...  Well, hopefully
one will show up soon.   I even offered to handle the FAQ, but the GAL who
has not sent a new one yet was selected...  ;-)

John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: grzyrob@elof.iit.edu (Rob Grzywinski)
Subject: Faulty HD.  Help Needed!
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 04:16:08 GMT

First, I'd like to say sorry to all of the people that have responded
to me and I have not replied back to.  I appretiate all of the assistance
that each one of you have given me.  My system was down and would not
let me send out mail (so I have a dir full of bounced back letters) and when
this problem was fixed the system deleted my mail folder so I did not
have any of the addresses to reply to.  Sorry

Well, I have a new problem.  I bought a UNIX PC with a bad HD and I
replaced the drive.  I've been scrounging around to get a dignostic
disk to test things (thanks to all who have helped me!!) and I finally
got one, but I still have the same problem.  It cannot find the HD.  The
HD light lights on booting so I know that it is there (besides the fact that
I installed So I DO know that it is there, but it doesn't).  I tested
the cables to check for a possible bad connection, but to no avail.
Is there any way that I could test to see if there is a mechanical problem?
Something that could be remedied by little 'ole me?  I want to know
wether or not I sould return the HD while I can and sell the system for
parts or fix the sucker.  I'm open to anything.

HELP

Rob
grzyrob@elof.iit.edu
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 6 Jan 1993 12:32:46 EST
From: <HOUSER@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: UNIX PC Phone Manager?

I'm relatively new to the 3b1 stuff here, and was wondering what
types of hardware is available for the 3b1's. I have seen mention
of several additions, including;

   RAM Expansion boards - simple enough
   Expansion Box - for more cards I assume
   Ethernet Board - another simple one
   Voice Board - ? not sure, what is it, what does it do
   Phone Manager - ? again, sounds cool, but what does it do
   Expansion boards for RS232 - more terminals/modems most likely

Is there a FAQ that has this listed? I know there is a FAQ for the 3b2
which lists the most common configurations, and what they are composed of
Is there something similar for the 3b1?

Well thanks in advance for the help, perhaps it would be best to post
responses, rather than mail so other curious people can see them.

Stephen Houser
houser@usm.maine.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jaws@aransas (Jim Wheeler)
Subject: Shipping a 3b1
Summary: How are _they_ shipping 3b1 s ?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:21:34 CST

   Having watched this group for about a year or so; and seeing the
   "for sale" ads, I started wondering. 
   How does one go about shipping a 3b1 to a new owner?
   I suppose if you kept the original box and packing it's no sweat.
   But what if you didn't? Just through it in a box? That would leave it
   vulnerable to damage. Just fill the box with _fake_ popcorn? 

   I guess you can see I've started to think about selling mine.  


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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:31:46 EST
From: Rooh <CXF107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Copy to Flpy from root on a 7300?

Hello all,
          I have a 7300. I would like to copy files to the floppy
from a root login. I would rather not logon as a user and do a
backup. Any ideas?

Thanks
From: lowen@lorc.eskimo.com (Lamar Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Shipping a 3b1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:43:38 -0500
Organization: LORC Enterprises

In <1993Jan6.122134.6293@walter.cray.com> jaws@aransas (Jim Wheeler) writes:
>   Having watched this group for about a year or so; and seeing the
>   "for sale" ads, I started wondering. 
>   How does one go about shipping a 3b1 to a new owner?
>   I suppose if you kept the original box and packing it's no sweat.
>   But what if you didn't? Just through it in a box? That would leave it
>   vulnerable to damage. Just fill the box with _fake_ popcorn? 

>   I guess you can see I've started to think about selling mine.  

If you have at least 2 inches of padding on each side, and you properly 
support the monitor (ie, wedge it secure with cardboard so it don't break
the swivel during shipping), and use a heavy duty card board box (or two
boxes, with an inch of padding between them), then you should be OK.

> J.A. Wheeler           (jaws@cray.com) 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.mail.misc
From: john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problem on AT&T unix 7300 (3b1).
Organization: $HOME
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:33:59 GMT

|On the other hand there have been several versions of smail. smail 3 was
|also known as smail 2.5. There is also a completely different smail 3.x
|which is currently somewhere around 3.1.27.1 (no doubt several smail fans
|which rush to provide different numbers). The latest version of smail, still
|in development is, paradoxically, smail 2.7.  Don't try to make sense of any
|of the version numbers in this paragraph; it could be hazardous to your
|mental health.

Only if your mental health is taxed by imagining two unrelated things
with similar names.  Smail 2.x and smail 3.x are unrelated packages
with similar names but different version numbers; development
continues on both.  Now, was that so hazardous?
From: steve@zero.com (Steve Urich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: man pages?
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:28:44 GMT
Organization: Beyonet - Zero Network

In <6249@naucse.cse.nau.edu>, jdc@kendrick.cse.nau.edu writes:
[...]
>This is just one opinion.  I much prefer the convienence of man pages
Correct, I would rather have online manpages also, however I was just
stating the fact that these machines didn't have them at the time because
space limitations and there applications where it wasn't needed. Beside
the book manuals are in different format and give lots more information
then online manpages. On SUNOS the online manpages are in a synoptical
format. However my SUNOS book manuals have both an image of the online
manpages and a more detailed area of study. The unixpc manuals inform
with the more detail of what you need then online manuals usually give.
That why I say they are well worth getting. Since the unixpc's limitations
are pretty much documented there. Bugs, limitations and features are 
explained. Unlike the simplified online formats I've seen including SUNOS.
That why they have books...


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From: wieland@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeffrey J Wieland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: 3b1 internal modem speed fix
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:53:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Sometime back, some posted an article about how to change the
1200 bps rate on the 3b1's internal modem to make it work
properly with certain other modems.  I now cannot find the
the article, so if someone has it could they send it to me?

To refresh our memories, this involves using the PIOCOVRSPD
ioctl() call on the phone device.
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