Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:52:17 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Help! FTP Mail Servers
X-To:         win3-l@uicvm.uic.edu

Ivica,

I tried unsucessfully to send this directly to your host, but mine does not
seem to know who you are.


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Date:     Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:31:11 GMT
From:     Bob Kane  <bob@worms-emh2.army.mil>
To:       bob@worms-emh2.army.mil
Subject:  Re:  Help!

Ivica,

I am including an excerpt from 'ftp.list' a great resource that is available
at many sites on the Internet.

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                           Anonymous FTP List
                    Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)


This FAQ is posted to the following groups monthly: comp.archives.admin,
comp.misc, comp.sources.wanted, alt.sources.wanted, & news.answers.

Comments welcome and urged. --Tom Czarnik (aftp-list@netcom.com)
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I keep a directory of Internet sites accepting anonymous FTP and mail
retrieval of their files, and post a listing of these sites on the Usenet:
comp.misc, comp.sources.wanted, alt.sources.wanted, & news.answers. An
example of this list can be found below, along with answers to some
questions about the list and anonymous FTP in general.

I also produce other lists in a variety of formats, which are available
directly from me. All these lists can be distributed freely.

       SITES - site names in alphabetic order:

       o Site name                     o Date of last audit (ISO format)
       o IP address(s)                 o GMT difference
       o Site manager                  o Country/Region (in ISO codes)
       o Organization                  o Types of files
       o E-mail server if available    o Restrictions


                              * Topics *

       1) Understanding the ISO date.
       2) Retrieving the list from alternate sources.
       3) Retrieving it directly from the coordinator.
       4) Using FTP without direct Internet access.
       5) Problems with a site.
       6) Setting up a public FTP site.
       7) Information presented is wrong or outdated.
       8) Getting a site listed or changes made.
       9) Making the list publicly available.
       10) Using the general mail server at DEC's Western Research Labs.
       11) What is Archie and how does it relate to the list?
       12) What is and how do I use the FTP program?


                              * Answers *

1) Understanding the ISO date.

   A) Format: Year.Month.Day (1991.12.30 is 30 December 1991).

2) Retrieving the list from alternate sources.

   A) It is available from various FTP sites which are noted in the
      Sites/Files list. Look for 'ftp-list' in the files section.

3) Retrieving it directly from the coordinator.

   A) I don't have time to mail copies to people. Ask your system
      administrator to make the lists available in a common area.

      I make exceptions to people who redistribute it to closed systems
      or areas that don't have access to the newsgroups. Don't abuse
      this! Send me mail to be put on the mailing list.

4) Using FTP without direct Internet access.

   A) It is possible to get files from a site by using a general mail
      server or many sites have their own servers. If you're on BITNET,
      ask your sysadmin or technical support group about PUCC. For
      non-BITNET sites, try using DEC's; you will find instructions
      for using it below, in answer #10.

5) Problems with a site.

   A) Mail the problems to the address shown in the Sites list. If a FTP
      comments address is not shown, attempt to use 'ftp@site_name';
      subsitute 'site_name' with the name of the troublesome site. If
      that fails, post a note to comp.archives.admin (the newsgroup for
      archive administrators).

6) Setting up a public FTP site.

   A) First, make sure you're in the position to do this. Read the man
      page for 'ftpd' and 'ftp'. You may want to retrieve two files
      from gator.netcom.com in /pub/profile:

       iafa-wg.Z       IAFA-WG's Guide to FTP Site Administration.
       archive-set.Z   Setting up an archive by Simon Travaglia.

      Use gator.netcom.com only during non-peak (1800-0600) hours.

7) Information is wrong or outdated.

   A) Send mail to me detailing the incorrect information and the
      corrections. If you are the site manager for the archive, please
      send me a complete description of the site as described below in
      topic 6.

8) Getting a site listed or changes made.

   A) Send the following information to aftp-list@netcom.com.

       o Site name(s), main IP address & any additional.
       o Manager(s) full name & email address(es).
       o Address for FTP related issues (problems, comments, etc...).
       o General description of the types of files available.
       o Directories that are for anonymous FTP use (besides /pub).
       o The country where located & ISO code.
       o The organization that runs it.
       o GMT difference.
       o Any restrictions; can it be used 24 hours/day?
       o Is an E-mail server available? Instructions for retrieving
         help or an index.

9) Making the list publicly available.

   A) Please let me know if there is a site that archives either the
      Sites or Files list. I will include it in future updates; the
      more people who have access, the better.

      All I ask: update the list as changes are made.

10) Using the general mail server at DEC's Western Research Labs.

   A) Send mail to  ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com  with 'help' in the body of
      the letter. You CANNOT send a blank letter, commands are not
      optional.

11) What is Archie and how does it relate to the list?

   A) Archie is a special server that keeps file listings from different
      FTP sites. You can Telnet to a server or use a client program to
      search for specific files. There are sites which do not appear in
      an Archie server and you can use the lists for these.

      Here are some sites; send mail to 'archie@site_name' for a help file.

       archie.ans.net (North America)
       archie.sura.net (North America)
       archie.mcgill.ca (Canada)
       archie.funet.fi (Finland/Mainland Europe)
       archie.au (Australia/New Zealand)
       archie.doc.ic.ac.uk (Great Britain/Ireland)
       archie.unl.edu (North America)
       cs.huji.ac.il (Israel)

12) What is and how do I use the FTP program?

   A)
                                  By:

                  John Granrose (odin@pilot.njin.net)
                 Mike Jones (mjones@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
                    Tom Czarnik (profile@netcom.com)


      This is not a definitive guide to FTP, but will give a novice a
      general idea of what it is and how to do it.


                              What is FTP?

      FTP (File Transfer Protocol) allows a person to transfer files
      between two computers, generally connected via the Internet. If
      your system has FTP and is connected to  the Internet, you can
      access very large amounts of archives available on a number of
      systems. If you are on Bitnet or a UUCP host, you should look for
      servers that work through the mail. A good source of information
      on archives in general, is the Usenet newsgroup comp.archives.


                         What is Anonymous FTP?

      Many systems throughout the Internet offer files through anonymous
      FTP. These include software, documents of various sorts, and files
      for configuring networks. Archives for electronic mailing lists are
      often stored on and available through anonymous FTP. Note that all
      this is subject to change.


                                Commands

      All the normal FTP commands may be used to retrieve files. Some FTP
      commands are the same on different computers, but others are not.
      Usually, FTP will list the commands if you type 'help' or type a
      question mark (?). Also, your computer's help command may have
      information about FTP. Try 'man ftp'  or   'man ftpd'.

      Some useful commands available on most systems include:

        get     copy a file from the remote computer to yours
        ls/dir  list the files in the current directory
        cd      Change directory
        binary  Switch to binary mode. For transferring binary files
        ascii   Switch to ascii mode. Ascii mode is the default mode


                               Procedure

      Anonymous FTP is a facility offered by many machines on the Internet.
      This permits you to log in with the user name 'anonymous' or the
      user name 'ftp'. When prompted for a password, type your e-mail
      address -- it's not necessary, but it's a courtesy for those sites
      that like to know who is making use of their facility. Be courteous.

      You can then look around and retrieve files. (Most anonymous ftp
      sites do not permit people to store files)

      Typically, a directory called 'pub' is where the interesting things
      are stored. Some sites will have a file with a name like ls-lR,
      that contains a complete list of the files on that site. Otherwise,
      you can type ls -lR and get such a listing -- for some sites, this
      can take a LONG time.

      Usually, files are grouped in archive files, so you don't have to
      get many small files separately. The most common archival file format
      for the Internet is tar. Occasionally, people use shell archives
      (shar) instead. Tar archives can be unpacked by running the 'tar'
      command -- you may want to first do a 'tar t' on the file to see what
      it contains before unpacking it. Be careful when unpacking shell
      archives since they have to be run through the Bourne shell to unpack
      them. (The simplest way is to use the unshar command)

      Files are often stored compressed -- for Unix, the most common scheme
      is the compress program, indicated by a .Z suffix on the file name.
      Sometimes, people use programs like Arc or Zoo, which are combined
      archival and compression formats. (There are probably other archival
      formats as well - talk to the systems staff if you encounter them and
      don't know how to deal with them)

      When retrieving non-text files, you must use binary mode, otherwise
      the file gets messed up. To do this, use the 'binary' command. (It's
      safe to set this for text files. If the site at the other end is
      non-Unix, you may need to use some other mode -- see the documents
      for that site and for FTP)

      The simplest way to initiate FTP would be to give the command 'ftp
      <system-name>',  where  <system-name>  is the remote system you
      are connecting to, either a name (wsmr-simtel20.army.mil, if you
      have an entry in /etc/hosts or are accessing a Domain-name Server)
      or the InterNet address (26.2.0.74,  for Simtel20). After a short
      wait, you will be prompted for your username. If you do not have
      an account on the remote system, some systems allow you to use
      'anonymous'. This gives you a restricted access path.

      You would then be prompted for a password. Some systems will tell
      you to send your real identity as the password. What you type doesn't
      matter, but it is suggested to give your mail address. Other systems
      need a password of 'guest', or something similar.

      After that, you should receive the FTP prompt ( usually ftp> ) and
      now have access. You can get a directory of files be giving a 'dir'
      command or if the remote system is Unix-based, 'ls -l' will give
      the familiar output. On Simtel20, there is a file available in the
      default anonymous ftp directory that explains what Simtel20 is and
      where files are located. The name is 'SIMTEL-ARCHIVES.INFO.nn, where
      ".nn" is a file generation number. You don't need to specify the file
      generation number when requesting the file. In fact, it's better not
      to because you will always get the latest generation that way.

      Unix systems will all have the familiar directory structure, and
      moving around is done with the familiar 'cd' or  'cwd' command.
      TOPS-20 systems have a different structure, but movement is still
      accomplished with the 'cd' command.

      Different systems have different organizations for their files, and
      the above example is just the way I have it set up. By poking around
      other systems, you can learn how their files are set up and move
      around much faster. Note, however, that FTP will not allow you
      outside the FTP 'root' directory (usually ~ftp on most systems).
      So, moving about the entire system is not permitted.


                               File Types

      These are the common Unix file types:

        SUFFIX      FTP TYPE
        ------      --------
        .Z           bin     compress
        .arc         bin     ARChive
        .shar        ascii   SHell ARchive
        .tar         bin     Tape ARchive
        .uu          ascii   uuencode/uudecode
        .zip         bin     Zip
        .zoo         bin     Zoo


      To get a list of all file compression/archiving methods and the
      programs to uncompress/unarchive (on the PC, Mac, Unix, VM/CMS,
      AtariST and Amiga systems), FTP to ux1.cso.uiuc.edu and change
      to the directory doc/pcnet; retrieve the file - compression.

      This could be helpful to people new to FTP that don't know how
      to unpackage the file they have just transferred.

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                    *  Anonymous FTP List - Sites *

                   [Please leave this header intact]


This list is posted to the following newsgroups monthly: comp.misc,
comp.sources.wanted, alt.sources.wanted, & news.answers. The FAQ (also
contains information for site managers) is posted to the same newsgroups
and comp.archives.admin.

NOTE: DO NOT use sites during their peak hours of 0600-1800 (6am - 6pm),
      unless they specify other usage! Weekends & holidays are usually
      exempt from this common restriction; applies to anon-FTP use only.

Comments welcome and urged! --Tom Czarnik (aftp-list@netcom.com)
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This is the directory of Internet sites accepting Anonymous FTP and mail
retrieval of their files. It is distributed freely and posted with site
names listed in alphabetic order. An example of the format follows this
header.

Unless otherwise stated, all sites use 'anonymous' (or 'ftp') for a login
and your email address for the password. The list uses the ISO date of
Year.Month.Day (1991.12.01 is December 1, 1991) and country format.

Please remember to use sites during off-peak (1800-0600 or 6pm-6am) hours.
Use sites within your area, before jumping to international archives. If
they have regional access or limited links, respect their restrictions.
Access is a priviledge and can be denied at any time.

If you notice any changes to a site, please let me know. Site managers,
should read my FAQ for the specific information I need.

A comment on Archie: please use this service! Though not all Archie sites
are consistant in their information, they can be an invaluable aid. For
those that don't know what Archie is, please read my Introduction/FAQ or
FTP to an Archie server for a doc file (you can find them in the list.)

Thanks: Edward Vielmetti - maintains comp.archives; Bob Reiger - provides
me the space on Netcom's anon-FTP archive for this directory; Johnathan
Kamens - news.answers moderator; and all the people maintaining public
archives.

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NOTE: not all information represented.

Site                                Main IP          Region  GMT  Date
 +Organization <FTP address for comments>
 [ E-mail Server address and instructions ]
 ## Comments & restrictions ##
 Files...


ftp.apple.com                        SEE: bric-a-brac.apple.com

ftp.brl.mil                          128.63.16.158    ?            1991.03.15
 info-iris; images; SGI demos; GIFs

ftp.cs.toronto.edu                   128.100.3.6      CA -5        1991.03.15
 ## Other IPs: 128.100.1.105 ##
 mailing list archives: AIList, Sun-Spots, & others; CA domain reg. forms;
 RFC; Netinfo; Domain; IETF; Inet drafts; Current C News; dvix; ftpd; Jove;
 SunOS SLIP; S/SL; TeX; UofT BIND; X apps

ftp.cs.widener.edu                   SEE: ashley.cs.widener.edu

ftp.cse.ucsc.edu                     128.114.134.19   US (CA) -8   1992.02.24
 +Univ of California - Santa Cruz
 UCSC tech reports; comp.doc.techreports

ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk                     SEE: colonsay.dcs.ed.ac.uk

ftp.eecs.umich.edu                   SEE: z.eecs.umich.edu

ftp.eff.org                          192.88.144.4     US (MA) -5   1992.03.01
 +Electronic Frontier Foundation
 EFF related material

ftp.hartford.edu                     SEE: jumbo.hartford.edu

ftp.ipl.rpi.edu                      128.113.14.50    US (NY) -5   1992.02.23
 +Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute <rodney@ipl.rpi.edu - Rodney Peck>
 Sparc songs; images

ftp.ira.uka.de                       SEE: iraun1.ira.uka.de

ftp.lysator.liu.se                   130.236.254.13   SE +1        1991.11.28
 IRC; LPmud; Primos; QNX; X11; science fiction

ftp.math.ksu.edu                     129.130.6.1      US (KS) -6   1992.02.15
 +Kansas State Univ - Math Dept <help@math.ksu.edu>
 SunOS 4.1.1 patches; Harpoon naval simulator scenarios; MSDOS: util & games

ftp.nevada.edu                       131.216.1.11     US (NV) -8   1992.03.01
 ftp-list; autoftp; virus stuff; Las Vegas BBS list

ftp.pitt.edu                         130.49.253.1     ?            1991.04.24
 ## Other IPs: 130.49.254.250 ##

ftp.ulowell.edu                      SEE: bigmax.ulowell.edu

ftp.uni-sb.de                        134.96.7.254     DE +1        1991.09.30

ftp.uu.net                           137.39.1.9       US (VA) -5   1992.01.12
 +UUNET Services
 ## Other IPs: 192.48.96.2 ##
 X; GNU; Athena; BSD-sources; opinions; nutshell; ; faces; Mach; SCO; news;
 comp.sources: 3b1, amiga, games, misc, reviewed, unix, x; Sun-fixes; Inet
 docs; comp.std.unix; UUmap; networking galore; much more

ftp.win.tue.nl                       131.155.70.100   NL +1        1992.04.01
 +Eindhoven Univ of Technology - Dept of Math & CS <ftp@win.tue.nl>
 GNU; X11R5; X11R4_386; TeX; BSD sources; general Unix software

ftphost.aukuni.ac.nz                 SEE: ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz

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Bob Kane                   Internet: bob@worms-emh2.army.mil (IP 134.235.9.2)
TechDyn Systems               Voice: (049) 6241-75936   (WORMS, GERMANY)
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