From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
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Subject: A Mouthpiece For 'ASALA/SDPA/ARF' Exposed: 'Native Terrorism Speaker.'
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:23:04 GMT






<1992Jul27.042506.20347@urartu.sdpa.org>
hla@urartu.sdpa.org (H. Hirac Asodyan)

>han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) in article <9207200034.A6945yN@
>anadolu.michigan.com> responded in his/its usual way, using exactly the same 
>cliches as before.

Look who is back? A mouthpiece for the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and 
Revisionism Triangle. No swinging of lies will be enough to cover up 
the crimes of your grandfathers. Ottoman Armenians have decided to 
betray their own government in 1914 and stab in the back by collaborating 
with the invading Russian armies, hoping to establish a separate Armenian 
state in Eastern Anatolia. The Armenian leaders played a gamble that 
cost 2.5 million Turkish and Kurdish lives.

The technique of armed struggle and the genocide plans developed by the 
Armenian genocide squads was openly stated in their earliest declarations and 
implemented with little change through the last years of the Empire. Without 
any sort of majority capable of fighting the Muslims, their technique was to 
stimulate strife between Muslims and Armenians, to incite rebellions, to 
exterminate defenseless Muslim women, children and elderly people, and thus 
to force the European states to intervene militarily. The objective was to 
secure the establishment of an independent Armenian state with Aryan race
in Eastern Anatolia. So it was that Louise Nalbandian, a leading Armenian 
writer on the Armenian nationalist movement, summarized the Hunchak program:[1]

"Agitation and terror were needed to 'elevate the spirit of the people'...
 The people were also to be incited against their enemies and were to 'profit'
 from retaliatory actions of these same enemies. Terror was to be used as a
 method of protecting the people and winning their confidence in the Hunchak
 program. The party aimed at terrorizing the Ottoman government, thus 
 contributing toward lowering the prestige of that regime and working
 toward its complete disintegration. The government itself was not to be
 the only focus of terrorist tactics. The Hunchaks wanted to annihilate the
 most dangerous of the Armenian and Turkish individuals who were then
 working for the government as well as to destroy all spies and informers.
 To assist them in carrying out all of these terrorist acts, the party
 was to organize an exclusive branch specifically devoted to performing 
 acts of terrorism....The most opportune time to institute the general
 rebellion for carrying out immediate objectives was when Turkey was
 engaged in war..."

[1] L. Nalbandian, "Armenian Revolutionary Movement," University of 
    California Press, 1963, pp. 110-111.

Armenian genocide squads operated not only in the eastern provinces themselves,
but also in Istanbul and the other major cities, with arms and money supplied
largely by Russia and other countries as a means of undermining Ottoman
stability and securing portions of Ottoman territory for themselves. Starting
in the reign of Sultan Abdulhamit II (1876-1909), and continuing through
WWI, the Muslim villages were wiped out, men and women alike were burned
alive in mosques, and the worst sort of atrocities imaginable were committed
in the name of Armenian independence. Bombs were exploded in government
offices, schools, libraries, and post offices, and the Ottoman Bank in 
Istanbul was occupied so as to 'dramatize' the Armenian message. Muslims were
brutalized as much as possible in order to stimulate reprisals and to bring
about cycles of massacre and counter-massacre, which could only be ended by
European intervention. 

When the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims is studied it can 
be observed that the Armenian genocide squads, genocide associations 
and committees were formed and many plans and programs to massacre 
millions of Muslims were already made before World War I. Many Armenians 
were forced to betrayal, rising and revolt through brainwashing, force 
and traditional Armenian terrorism. Right from the beginning, those who 
had common sense enough to predict the results of these genocide plans 
were silenced. In the end the genocide squads and traitors discovered 
the fact that they had been exploited, but it was too late. 2.5 million 
Muslims had already been exterminated by the criminal leaders of the 
Armenian Dictatorship in their homeland.

Quotes from Admiral Bristol's March 28, 1921 letter on the Armenian 
genocide of 2.5 million Muslims.

 "While the Dashnaks were in power they did everything in the world to 
  keep the pot boiling by attacking Kurds, Turks and Tartars."

 "By massacring the Moslems; and robbing and destroying their homes; 
  and finally by starting an attack against the Turks which resulted 
  in a counter attack by the Turks, and then the Armenians deserted 
  and ran away."

Source: Stanford J. Shaw, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey,"
        Vol II. Cambridge University Press, London, 1979, pp. 314-317.

"...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final
 plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the 
 president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response:

 'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the 
  glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian
  arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the
  Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining
  under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey
  who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new
  free life under the protection of Russia.'[155]

Armenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made
to strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg
confident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul."

[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, "Road to
Independence," p. 45; FO 2485, 2484/46942, 22083.

"Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and
 the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be
 accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]"

[156] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," pp. 45-47; Bayur, III/1, 
pp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, "Caucasian Battlefields,"
Cambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, "Harb Hahralaram," 2 vols.,
Ankara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.
46942 and 22083.

"An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it 
 appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be
 able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian
 civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from
 the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted
 Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from
 Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new 
 Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians
 crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed
 no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]" 

[162] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and
58350.

[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915; 
Babi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, "Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,"
Zilkade 1333/10 September 1915.

>> Wow. But the problem is that Prof McCarthy is a great scholar and you clown
>> is a self-admitted criminal and a genocide apologist. I like your kind of
>> odds. It is clear in the light of the documents I discussed earlier, that in 
>> fact the Armenian issue was not a struggle for self-determination impelled 
>> by the need for independence. The activities of the Armenian Government seem 
>> to have been efforts aimed at eradicating a race (the Turks) or aimed at 
>> carrying out a one-sided feud, instead of being a struggle for liberation. 
>> From the outset, the efforts of the Armenian Government within the Ottoman 
>> borders took the form of terrorist and destructive actions aimed at mass 
>> murder, cruelty and genocide, so that no other interpretation of them is 
>> possible.

>We have shown how "great" a scholar Justin McCarthy is before. 

Is this moron for real? 

Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
        "Document No: 88," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 113, Drawer 
        No: 3, File No: 527, Section No: 732(2057), Contents No: 26-7.
        (To the Ottoman Army Acting Supreme Command - 9th Army Commander
        Sevki)

"For 4-5 months, Armenians in Erivan, Karabag and Nahcivan have been 
 committing all kinds of cruelties on the Moslem population. Particularly
 in Erivan and Karabag, the Armenians have annihilated the Moslem 
 population by massacres, plunders and by forcing them to leave. Up-to-date,
 thousands of Moslem families, have been forced to flee for their lives
 in starvation to the Kars region. Those who could not flee or migrate
 were annihilated. Files, documents and reports on this matter have been
 from time to time submitted to the Supreme Command.

 The Gang Leader named Antranik, who has directed the Armenian policy
 of cruelty and brutality, has so far shed the blood of hundreds of
 thousands of people. Also destroyed all the houses, still continuing
 the same destruction in Karabag."
          
Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

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