From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Subject: Re: Pennsic Town Car parking fiasco (was "Smelly steel wagons at Pennsic")
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:29:00 GMT

In article <erd.03ey@kumiss.cmhnet.org> erd@kumiss.cmhnet.org (Ethan Dicks) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.174414.17691@access.digex.com> corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra) writes:
>>Unto the Gentles of the Rialto does Corun MacAnndra send greetings.
>>
>>I have been following this thread for some time now and have heard some
>>good ideas and some bad ones. I have also heard alot of rancor. I have 
>>not heard any mention of the Town Car parking lot that was set up.
>
>I mentioned it several days ago.  I said it was a good idea which was
>badly mismanaged.

Sorry,  I must have missed that thread. Sometimes things get posted repeatedly,
and then some not at all. No offense was meant.

>I, too, warned off people with yellow tags whenever I was coming or
>going.  It didn't help much.
>
>If there were *any* cars towed, I would like to know.  I and several others
>complained to Gavin, Kyle and various volunteers staffing the security
>tent about the number of yellow tags in the town car area.  The first two
>days, Gavin told me, "Some people snuck in before we set up the blue tape.
>We are looking for them and will ask that they move."  Several days later,
>all I could get from Kyle was, "We're doing the best we can."  Well, it
>seems that "they" (whomever Kyle ment by "we") can do nothing!  Another
>driver of the town car complained about the situation to Gavin as he was
>walking back to camp from across the ridge.  Gavin reportedly said, "What
>do want me to do about it?", and putted away before a response could be
>issued.
>
>>For those camps that had them I believe this idea worked well.
>
>Horsehockey!  After Wednesday, I was unable to find any spaces in the town
>car lot for the town car I was using.  I ended up personally paying for
>"Closer Shaded Parking" so that I didn't have to park over the ridge with
>its BLUE car tag.  The town car was driven by myself and several others on
>nearly a daily basis.  It ferried various people to various errands in
>several cities.  There were some days where the town car left site more
>than once.  I think that the town car lot is a good idea.  It needs to be
>adequately enforced.  The yellow parking tags say on the back that
>improperly parked cars may be towed.  Cars with yellow tags in the town
>car lot were (by the rules published in the large Pennsic booklet available
>to all attendees) not properly parked.  They should have been towed.  I
>am not aware of any such occurences.  Is anyone else aware of any?
>
>I think that I am most annoyed by the fact that there were two sets of
>inconsiderations.  The first inconsiderations were performed by the people
>who felt that their own convenience was important enough to inconvenience
>others.  The second were performed by the Autocrat and the Head of Security
>who appeared to feel that it was important not to inconvenience the people
>who were violating the rules, punishing those of us who tried to play by
>those same rules.
>
>If you just plain can't make it work, take down the markers and post a
>sign saying that the system was abandoned due to an inability to follow
>through.  Don't try and pretend that all is well when it is not.

I think if nothing else has come of these discussions on the Land Allotment, 
and parking problems in general it's that the SCA is fraught with whinning,
inconsiderate people who are only interested in their own comfort and pleasure
at the expense of everyone else's. So what else is new. Outside the SCA we
call that the real world. So what do we do about it? The Cooper's are bound
by legal hassles, and while I'm not well read on Corpora, I'm not sure there
is anything in there that will really help. It's up to each individual to
remember the three basic precepts of the SCA: Honour, Courtesy, and Chivalry.

Oxford English Dictionary defines Honour as; n. high respect or public regard,
adherence to what is right or an accepted standard of conduct (code of honour).

Courtesy is; n. courteous behaviour or act.

And Chivalry is; n. courtesy and honour esp. to those weaker; medieval
knightly system with it's religious, moral, and social code.

So who among you (and I mean all the SCA) can honestly say you adhere to
these three precepts when we hear all this nonsense about taking parking
places that don't belong to you, wanting more land than you need or deserve,
and generally having it your way and to hell with the rest of the Society?

BTW, Society is defined as; n. organized and interdependant community.

I'm tired of all this bickering about the Land Allotment and the rest. If 
the complainers can't do anything but complain, then either run the War
yourself one year or stop coming altogether. That way the rest of us won't
have to listen to your bitching and there'll be more land for us to divvy
up and have a good time on.

And Eadred, remember that when my tribe rode from yours seven years ago,
we left behind the four pages of laws your people still call a Yasa, and
only took the Code of Conduct which embraces the three aformentioned
principles. We've done quite well with only that.

"The more corrupt the government, the greater the number of laws." - Tacitus

In service,

Corun


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