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From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Sumo predictions
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:56:10 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <1992Jul24.005159.9448@unixg.ubc.ca> roy@raven.geog.ubc.ca (Roy Hourston) writes, following another article by the guy from Morgan Stanley:

What's the problem with you guys. You seem to complain that Akebono and
Musashimaru win because of superior strength. Why should it be only with
technique? Or if it is, let's suppress yorikiri and allow only uwa/shita-
tenage and other throwing techniques. It reminds me of the Yokozuna Promotion
Council after Konishiki was not promoted. It was not so much that he only
won 13 bouts, it was that the way he lost looked bad! It still doesn't
make much sense to me. If it is wrong for the strong guys to win using
their strength, why is it OK for Mainoumi to win only on technique? I like
watching him fight, don't get me wrong, but I like Ake and Musashi too.
It is not written anywhere that you have too win a given number of bouts
using technique, as far as I know.

Is it fair to allow 7-foot tall guys to play basket-ball after all? They only 
have to rely on their height.


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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Japanese language bible
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:52:22 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>   When we stay at a hotel, we can usually find a bible in the room. It is
>supposed to be a part of service. The original poster might have thought of
>preparing a Japanese bible just to show his hospitality without any religious
>mind. If that is the case, all the religious discussions including mine
>in this thread are out of line, and the proper answer to him might be just, 
>"You don't have to bother 8-)."

>Michiaki Masuda


Let me suggest that the bible be placed in the students room preferably
on the bookshelf or someplace unobtrusive. Let the student discover it
and explore it without any of the pressure implied by a presentation.

Certainly I would be very pleased to find in my room (if I were a student
in Japan) an English translation of important Buddhist and/or Shinto
writings. I would also feel threatened by a presentation that carried the
implication that I was going to be expected to participate actively in
religious rites. 

Of course , if the original poster knows in advance that the student
is Christian... then the gift is appropriate but probably unnecessary!

Charlie

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From: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese exprisoners of war
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: nakano@suncom1.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp (NAKANO Yasuaki)
Organization: Dept. of Information Engineering, Shinshu Univ.,500 wakasato, Nagano, Japan

In article <604@wakasato.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp> I wrote
>I suppose people in many countries, especially in Asia, will feel just 
>like me, because they have suffered from Japanese violent deed in WWII. 
>However, it does not justify the evil treatment of SU to Japanese soldiers. 

Please read as;
I suppose people in many countries, especially in Asia, will have the same
feeling to Japan as I have to SU, because they have suffered from Japanese 
violent deed in WWII. However, it does not justify the evil treatment of SU
to Japanese soldiers. 

Yasuaki NAKANO
nakano@wakasato.cs.shinshu-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen)
Subject: Re: Japanese markets -- (Re: Info wanted on Akihabara (Tokyo))
Keywords: dumping, gimmicks, middle ages,
Organization: Concurrent Nippon Corp. Tokyo  Japan.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:10:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.175710.1455@physics.ucla.edu> aoki@physics.ucla.edu (ken aoki) writes:
>
>I agree that most Japanese models sold in Japan have more features.
>I disagree in that it is not the Japanese public who want 
>more gimmicks for a higher price, but it is the big companies
>who say that it is so and try to sell more gimmicks by
>making the stripped down "export" versions hard to obtain in Japan.
>(to rake in more profit, of course.)
>Do you seriously believe that all the Japanese housewives
>are happy to pay hundreds of more dollars to have 'fuzzy logic'
>in their washing machines and their vacuum cleaners?
>I don't think so.
>But then again, I might be too out of touch.
>
It's not even that the companys want to make such complicated products
but that in a market over supplied with manufacturers of consumer
electronics and appliances the companies are looking for any way that
they can differentiate their products.  when you go to Akihabara you
can porobably find at least fifty different models of pocket sized
portable cassette players from at least five or six different
manufacturers.  The market for TVs and VCRs is similarly glutted.
It's about to change though since most of those products don't even
recover their cost of design.  The Japanese consumer electronics
market is about to see a period of contraction and consolidation with
many of the weaker labels dissappearing over the next few years.
Many of the consumer products companies haven't seen a profit for a
while and don't have any prospects of making a profit unless they cut
way back on unprofitable lines of business.
-- 
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:47:52 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>In article <2070@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>>edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>>
>>Sorry, I would have to get official confirmation (or have you quote
>>such) before I would believe that merely being bron on US soil makes
>>one a US citizen. 

>It is, however correct; you are automatically a US citizen if you are born on
>US soil. Even if your parents are just passing through on their way to somewhere
>else.

Yes, so I've learned.

>>If so, then it would mean the child of any couple who happened to be
>>traveling in the U.S. when it was born would be a U.S. citizen and
>>this doesn't make sense to me. If I were a non-U.S. national, I
>>wouldn't want my child to automatically become a citizen of another
>>country just because they happened to be born there. 

>Why not? An infant does not give up his/her parents' citizenship in that case.
>S/he has until age 21 to make a final determination.

I was under the mistaken idea that if they gained U.S. citizenship
they lost that of their parents. 

From other posts, it turns out that in some cases at least you can
keep both and be a dual national. But not, from what other people
tell me, in the case of Japan. The people I talked with weren't
really sure, but one of them thought this had to do with the
Japan side of the equation....

....

>An anecdote: in the early 1970's, a sailor jumped off a Russian fishing trawler
>onto an American Coast Guard vessel, in an effort to defect. The Russians 
>boarded the American vessel and took him back aboard and thence back to the
>Soviet Union. His name was Simas Poskaitis (Lithuanian) and he spent 6 years in
>a Russian prison camp. Behind the scenes, our State Department worked to
>get him out. He was granted US citizenship because his *grandmother* had visited
>the US in 1920! (apparantly, there is *LOTS* of leeway in how citizenship can 
>be granted, in addition to the methods Mr Hall mentioned). After a couple 
>more months haggling, he and his entire family were given permission to leave
>and he moved to the US, where he was my apartment manager in Santa Monica for
>5 years.

Yes, even though we would like to believe its cut and dried, I think
there is lots/some space to maneuver. As it says in my U.S. passport
(now that somebody reminded me to look!), "For detailed information,
consult the nearest American embassy or consultate."

Dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Results of Japanese players in Barcelona
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:05:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.162522.3199@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, asano@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ASANO Yoshiteru) writes:
> Hello, everyone in Japan.
> I'm in the Unived States and it's very hard for us to get info on actions of
> Olympians from Japan in Barcelona.  Someone in Japan, please keep us posted
> the results of the games which involves Japanese atheletes.
>     Thanks in advance
>          yoshi

The newsgroup REC.SPORT.OLYMPICS has olympic results.

I am covering all Japanese swimmers, divers, synchronised swimmers, water polo
teams, and judo competitors.

Rod Swift
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From: hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Homebrewing in Japan
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:52:39 GMT
	<1992Jul27.012045.10925@CS.ORST.EDU>
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 27 Jul 92 01:20:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.012045.10925@CS.ORST.EDU> lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:
 |In article <1992Jul27.003411.25195@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp> d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka) writes:
 |>In article <288207@mordor.com> root@mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod) writes:
 |>
 |>>Is it legal???  The consensus at work among the older Japanese
 |>>is that homebrewing is probably illegal in Japan.  
 |>
 |>Well, as far as I know, it is illegal to brew at home.
 |
 |I'm just curious. What are the reasons for making it illegal?

At the Sino-Japanese War (NISSHIN SENSOU in 1894-5), Japanese
goverment collected heavy tax from SAKE and have controled any kind of
drinks that have alcohol until today.

						--hironobu
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:03:01 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>If you can find a job in Japan while on a tourist visa, you CAN go down to
>immigration and apply for a change-of-status in your visa. What will happen then
>is open to negotiation, though "officially" you must then leave the country.
>The officer may decide to let you work without hassle, then pick up your
>new visa when it comes in. They MAY let you work, and then leave the country to
>pick up your visa. They may give you the official line (you can always come back
>on a different day to try to get another official in a better mood). Or perhaps
>some other line I've not yet heard. In any event, though the official line`
>as I stated above, if you're obsequious enough, they'll usually help you out.

Yes, I've found that being polite has tremendous advantages here,
compared to pressing for you rights. Another possibility is to have
somebody else intercede on your behalf. 

For example, the time before last when I went to extend my visa at
the Osaka office I was told I had to go to Kyoto. Since I had heard
many stories about how hard the people in the Kyoto office were to
get along with, I didn't want to do that so I had my superior call
immigration (and of course apologize for taking their time) and
explain how it wasn't convenient for me to go to the Kyoto office,
how I worked in Osaka, how I had been going to the Osaka office for
a long time, and so on ... but they continued to push me towards
Kyoto. So then he called the Kyoto office (and also apologized for
taking their time) found out who I should see. I went in and was out
of the door with my new visa in 30 minutes.  Politeness and somebody
else pursuing your case pays! 

Dave

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From: charman@snoopy.inria.fr (Philou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japanese editor for the mac
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:02:38 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

-- 


Hi, 

my girlfriend is studying japanese and she is looking
for a japanese editor for the Mackintosh

Is there any FTP server where i can take one ?


Thanks, Phil.



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From: mitch@dc49.dc (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hotel in Tokyo.
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:45:12 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@dc49.dc
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

In article 4617@d75.UUCP, vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
>My travel agent in the US recommended the Sunshine City Prince Hotel
>in Tokyo.  Is that any good?   She said that it would cost me $205.00
>a night.  Do you have any other recommendations...
>

That's awfully expensive unless you can afford it.  Are you required to stay
in the Ikebukuro area?  Also, I believe you said you would be travelling
alone and don't care about having a small room?  If so, I would recommend
the Shinagawa Prince (clean, small rooms, adjacent to Shinagawa Station).

Call them in the US at 800-542-8686 (Prince Hotels number in US)

That is the Shinagawa Prince, not the Takanawa or New Takanawa Prince Hotels
which are also at Shinagawa Station.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@etorofu.island.COM ()
Subject: William Adams
Followup-To: None. I occasionally have original thoughts
Summary: I wanna be a samurai! 
Originator: fester@etorofu
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:34:18 GMT

How about something a bit more interesting than Hiroshima/Japan-US bashing,
etc? How about some actual culture?

Some time ago, I read the book, _The Needle Watcher_ (author's name
escapes me). I found it to be a rather interesting piece of historical (semi)
fiction, and remember it rather well.

My question: does anyone know of any other books about William Adams? I have not
been able to locate his "Memorials of Japan" anywhere, so if someone could 
direct me toward them, I'd be grateful. Similarly, if anyone has any anecdotes
about Adams from any of their other readings, I'd like to hear them. What is
taught about him in Japan?

For those who do not recognize the name, William Adams was the English pilot 
of the Liefde, a Dutch ship that landed in Japan. It was this character upon 
whom Clavell based much of his _Shogun_ book, though of course with embellish-
ments to make it more mass-marketable. For the record, Adams was in fact made
samurai, and hatamoto to Tokugawa Ieyesu, and appears to have been somewhat
akin to a close personal friend. He got along rather less well with Ieyesu's
son, and died in something approximating disfavor. He attempted to get the
English interested in trade with Japan, though he appears to have been unsuc-
cessful in this. He DOES appear to have been instumental in helping the 
Japanese get rid of the Portugese, though this was most likely as much by
giving the Japanese an alternative as anything else.

Mike
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From: letom@relleno.ucdavis.edu (Tom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: USA vs Japan Men's Volleyball/Japan Winter Games
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:21:36 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

In article <RSI.92Jul29144422@scf16.scf.loral.com> rsi@scf16.scf.loral.com (Rich S. Ishikawa) writes:
>
>   in Message-ID: <Bs1DzI.9nG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:26:04 GMT
>   kig9584@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyoko Inoue )   says:
>   >that I had to throw in my own opinion about the game.
>   >Why did the Japanese coach just let the game go on after the obvious
>   >mistake of the judge at the end of the 4th set?  "Do-not-protest-the-
>
>
>What I didn't like were the attitudes of the American players.  They
>seem to think that they're so superior.  The game was really pretty close
> []
>This is the part of being American I don't particularly like--a
>very gung-ho attitude about everything.
>

Agreed.  I do NOT like the idea of the US Volleyball team "representing"
the US with actions such as what they displayed.  Sure, in the middle of the
game, you get wired, excited, etc and I can understand all that.  But still,
to go running under the net at the end of that match, or pointing the "Ha! I
gotcha now!" attitude (my opinion/interpretation of their actions - they
didn't actually say that) is not good.  I dislike the thought that, as
both Olympians and good sportsman, as well as representatives of the USA,
they would act in that fashion.  Especially, _after_ the game...I can 
understand (although still think it was in poor taste) during the game
and the excitement...but after the game, I think it was in bad taste.

But before this turns into a "US-bashing" post...I would like to try and turn
the topic slightly to Japan and the Olympics.  First...the Winter games will
be held in Japan, as I think most of us know.  I'm wondering what kind of
preparatins are being made for that, and how the idea of having the Winter
Games in Japan is being accepted by the Japanese (or is it too early yet?)

I've heard (already) that some groups dislike the idea of Japan being
"overrun" by foreigners, although I think that would be an overstatement.
But I do know that some of my relatives in the area (my aunt, specifically)
dislikes the idea of "hurting" the land and the environment so they can
build the ski slope, or the bobsled course, etc.  I wonder how much of that
landscape is going to be "tornup" in order make the olympic venues.  Offhand,
are there any plans for mass-transportation and all that stuff?  Assuming that
the Winter Games get as many visitors as the one we had just half a year ago,
I hope all the people can fit :)

Paul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: Culture and Religion (was Re: Japanese Bible
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Bible, Japanese, Religion, Culture
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.150751.9635@nevada.edu>, nibber@nevada.edu (KEIKO SHIMMYO) writes...
...
> 
>I think the only time most Japanese feel that religion 
>(or anything else) is forced upon them is when the boss shows 
>preference to it.  At work or privately. Then, they will take 
>it very seriously.  Especially guys do.  Women are allowed to
>be more eccentric at work then men could, if one chooses to do so.  
>Serious to the extent that they feel they have to show at least
>the interest in the matter.
> 
Hmm.  I can see this happening if the boss was serious about
Buddhism or Shinto.  Since the two religions are a part of
Japanese culture, it would not look so strange if employees 
suddenly became a bit more "serious" as well.  But somehow,
I cannot see this happening if the boss was a serious
Christian.  With the percentage of professing Christians being
around the order of 1% in Japan, how can the employees look
sincere and convincing?

BTW, in the US there exists some bad stereotypes of those who
profess Christianity (and other religions as well, e.g. Islam).
Usually they are protrayed as Bible (or Quran) -thumpers, although
these types are clearly in the minority.  What do most Japanese
think of Japanese Christians?  What is a typical positive or
negative stereotype?  Or perhaps the numbers are so small, they
are more-or-less ignored?

-- Makoto
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ba05047@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Fumiaki Kamiya)
Subject: Re: Japanese Radio Program in Europe ?
Keywords: Radio
Organization: CS Dept, SUNY Binghamton
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:49:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.070324.19783@news.uni-stuttgart.de> SHIMOKOSHI@129.69.123.1 (K. SHIMOKOSHI) writes:
>I have heard once that we can listen to japanese radio program (NHK: Nippon
>Hoso Kyokai?) in Europe.
>
>Is that true?  If so, whitch day?  What time?  Which channel?  AM or FM?
>And how often?

I think the name of the station is Radio Japan and is run by
NHK.  It's a worldwide service in SW.  Sorry, I don't have
their schedules.

Fumi