From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:10:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.074535.5129@utstat.uucp>, philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
|> In article <vrq16lj@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:

|> >I love MAC users... they consider a 14" monitor BIG!?!?
|> >
|> >(Guess it is, compared to that built-in 9" piece-de-crap on the 1-piece MACs.)
|> 
|> Why is it that Amiga users insist on deriding every little thing about a
|> competitor's computer that they can think of? The 14" Apple monitor (which
|> I have seen on a IIvi with a Photo CD-ROM drive) is very nice. The 9" monitor
|> is fine. I wish there was a colour version.

I don't "insist" on deriding anything. I think MACs are wonderful machines
- if you've got $20,000 to blow and a lot of patience. I think the O/S is a 
little underpowered (there's such a thing as being too mouse-oriented..) but
other than that they're OK. I prefer working on MACs to PCs by a factor of
100 or so!

However, if you think that a 14" monitor is GREAT and a 9" monitor is FINE, I'm
going to deride **YOU** until the day I die. 14" is good for a personal
system - I love my Sony 14". But the 9" monitors are **HORRRRRRRIBLE!!**

|> Mac users use large monitors a lot. Personally, I find them too overpowering.
|> The Sony 1304, C= 1960, etc...are all nice monitors. So are the NEC's.

I'll agree. I never said they weren't. I just said they aren't BIG!

Doesn't Apple sell a 21" monitor for MACs? Now **THAT'S** big!

|> The other thing I find offensive about your message is the language. The 
|> Internet is presumably meant for civilized exchanges of information. There's
|> no need to swear.               

**CRAP?!?!?!?**       **CRAP!?!?!?**

That's how I talk. Internet is also not a place for tight-***ed bible-belters
and old-fashioned ninnies to impose their outdated, bleached-white morals on
other people. I'm not going to tailor my natural, unembellished speech patterns
to suit your oversensitive ears (eyes?). No law says you have to read my 
messages.

I don't like the word "overpowering." Please don't use it in my presence.
 
|> >As with all new hardware, both Emplant and the A4000 will drop significanly
|> >--- probably right after the Christmas rush. So, about the time the Q700's
|> >price is dropping, we'll get a double drop.
|> 
|> The Emplant board is very nice in concept. Noone has one working yet, and it
|> still needs the Mac ROM's. I wonder how Amiga users would feel if people
|> were to start cloning the A4000.

I'd be glad! Finally, some price-competition.

I hold no loyalty to Commodore. They sukk. The one advantage the PC world has
over us 68000ers is the intense competition that brings prices down. And
believe me, IBM isn't suffering for it.

|> The Quadra's are extremely nice computers, if overpriced. Personally I feel
|> the A4000 is more interesting, the NeXT is more productive for me,...

Never used a NeXT. I really want to. They look like very nice machines, now 
that Jobs has gotten off that CD-ROM kick. As I've already stated, Apples are
VERY nice machines - but the price/performance ratio is worst on the market, 
and getting them up to full Amiga-killer power takes a lot of time and $$$$$.

|> >How old the price list is was not the question - it's how old the 700 is.
|> >
|> >I agree that it's not totally outdated... but it's in the same situation the
|> >A3000 is. There are better machines out now, it's not #1 anymore. OF COURSE
|> >the price is low... wanna compare to the A3000? That's going for $1400 now...
|> 
|> The Quadra has a better software base than the A3000, and that's the bottom 
|> line.

Partially. And I don't like arguing software bases. It's not the sort of thing
anyone can control - except developers, and they hate us Amiga people with a 
purple passion, it seems. (Except a few - sorry, Gregg!)

|> Philip McDunnough
|> University of Toronto
|> philip@utstat.toronto.edu

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