HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:38:25 GMT

> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

>> John Dorrance? John was severly roasted when he started on the net -
>> cabal blacklist, all that. I think I posted about this a few weeks ago.
>
>  I don't remember John getting roasted. He may have otherwise ended up
>on the motss.con.dim.sum menu instead of just being disgusted at the
>thought of canablism.

John Dorrance's debut managed to piss off even sweet ol'
*me*.  I exited my customary Pollyanna mode to flame the
young whippersnapper when he complained that a lesbian of
his acquaintance was "too out" in public, and constantly
embarrassed him...
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From: cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Vacationing in Europe
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:13:44 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp.

In article <73388@apple.Apple.COM>
richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
 
>1. Pick a place to go visit.
>2. Stay at a hotel.  While you are there, it is a "gay hotel".
>3. Choose a restaurant.  While you are there, it is a "gay restaurant".
 
Thanks for your advice Richard, I feel much better now.
I just never realized how easy it was.
 
Chris Russell
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: "Advocate" editor interviewed on CNN
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:40:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: soc.motss

I stumbled into this one in a fit of boredom, and it struck
me as being 'just too much.' 

> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> >norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris) writes:
> >>
> >>Well, one sterotype is that repressed homosexual men subconsciously
> >>choose an ugly wife.  Danny boy certainly meets *that* criterion.
> >
> >Another, arguably more damaging, stereotype is that human
> >beings are "ugly." We are raised in an environment that
> >ineluctably creates an aesthetic supplying such imagery to
> >our consciousness on demand.  It is, in essence,
> >irresistible.  

Well, every fiber of my being is now indoctrinated with the image
of Jason Priestly as *divine*...

I wish I could linger on Jason, but this was just too much.
Too God-damn much:

> >What's ugly is that in terms of the correspondences between
> >so-called good looks and clearly unacceptable behavior, her
> >husband has more in common with Jeffrey Dahmer than with
> >anyone else.

Comparing Dan Quayle to that less-than-human reptilian slime is
so loathsomely disgusting that I don't even know where to begin.
"What utter shit!" is about the best I can manage.  Unbelievable,
purely unbelievable.  I have taken exception to *a* *lot* of 
Mr. Anderson's posts - but this defies such characterization.
I swear, despite weighing but 120 pounds, this would have 
resulted in physical violence.

No joke. I'm no fan of Quayle's, but I sure as *hell* wouldn't
compare him to one of the most vile mass murderers to come down
the chute in God-knows how long - and I'm absolutely *sickened*
SICKENED! God-damn-it! that such a ridiculous comparison has
been made.

'Clearly unacceptable behavior?!'  Dahmer exhibited 'Clearly
unacceptable behavior?!'  Shit, I want to smash my hand through
my God-damn monitor!!  THIS is why I HATE intellectuals!

The man was VILE.  He didn't exhibit 'Clearly unacceptable
behavior!'  He exhibited VILE behavior!

Jesus Fucking Christ!  *VILE*

Matthew Melmon
From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 18:35:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <67097@cup.portal.com> <1992Oct3.064139.26133@spdcc.com>
  <73099@apple.Apple.COM> <ld1btaINNdts@spim.mti.sgi.com>

>In article <73099@apple.Apple.COM>, richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
>writes:
>|> Steve Dyer:
>|>
>|> >Are anchovies out?  There's this great Italian place in Noe Valley
>|> >which makes a killer garlic, olive oil, anchovy, and toasted bread
>|> >crumb (yes) pasta sauce.  Can anyone help me with its name?  You can
>|> >get it w/o anchovies too.
>|>
>|> Must be "Little Italy".  I can be found there a minimum of two nights
>|> a week.  But don't take my word for it -- ask Jess, Bill Hsu, Randy Clark,
>|> or any number of other people I have taken there.  You can have this
>|> privilege, too.  Just ask.
>
>
>However, be prepared for obnoxious service and obnoxious diners...  I love
>the food at Little Italy.  The rest sucks.
>
>For a truly awesome pizza, go to Pauline's on Valencia.  It is run by
>"family" and the pizza in great NY Style, with a California attitude.
>
>|> (this will surely trigger a bunch of mail from people I am overdue to have
>|> dinner with... )
>
>No comment
>
>FWA

Little Italy is being hailed as "great Italian"?  My taste buds all
just fainted dead away.

For those of you who actually have working taste buds, there *are* two
really fine restaurants on 24th Street in the near vicinity of (shudder)
Little Italy.  Pano's, at 24th and Noe, has a basic Greek menu, but the
lunch and dinner menus tend to California Cuisine of the highest order.
La Roca, at 24th and Douglass, does authentic Spanish-as-in-Spain seafood
better than anyone else around.

Pauline's notwithstanding -- I haven't been -- follow this simple rule
and you won't go wrong: if you want "great Italian", go to North Beach,
not 24th Street.

Ooooooo.  Food fight!  Food fight!

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:40:12 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Oct16.055715.14163@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1bk456INN8pl@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu (Gary Byma) writes:
>>I can't imagine whether
>>I would have stayed had I received Matt's welcome, say,
>
>Well, that would have depended on what you had to say, don't you think?


Actually it would depend on what some out there might think I have said.
See below....

>
>>if I had disagreed with Steve Dyer or, heaven forfend, Melinda Shore.
>
>"Disagreement" is not the issue here.  Nor is the sharp remark an
>exclusive of either Melinda or myself, nor when I do, do I make it
>indiscriminately or without thought.  Think context and content.


No, if you don't think like Steve or Melinda you have offended them and
they will say nice things about you. 

Think whatever pleases Steve or Melinda (and others), will please me..
Repeat this over and over again, "I am just an extention of Steve and 
Melinda and I mustn't depart from their personal beliefs."  Say it three
times then click your heals........>

>You should be thanking Melinda and myself for keeping quiet. :-)

You should thank them to put you in their Kill file!  I begged Jesse!

>
>-- 
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer


Bil Snodgrass 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: drollin@seq.uncwil.edu (David A. Rollins)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:26:47 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>In article <1992Oct11.223503.27820@seq.uncwil.edu> drollin@seq.uncwil.edu (David A. Rollins) writes:


>Do you love Bugs Bunny?


No, but I just ooze over Porky Pig.

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Email: drollin@seq.uncwil.edu |  I'M GOOD ENOUGH. I'M SMART ENOUGH,
Voice: 919-763-4115           |  AND DOGGONE IT, PEOPLE LIKE ME!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca
Subject: Re: an anonymous posting
Organization: Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:18:57 GMT



I came out (gulp) about 12 years ago, and didn't enjoy it at all. I went
through several years of hell trying to deny, negotiate, the whole nine
yards. 

But despite my worst fears, everything turned out much better than I could
have imagined.

I'd like to be able to post some heartwarming tale about finding love and
myself in the tangle of arms with a secret boyhood love (while strains of 
Tchaikovsky (sp) well up in the background), but those things never
happened to me

But a couple of funny things did happen to me. Like the time I was having 
a dinner party and realized the afternoon of the affair that not all the 
guests had heard the news. (When I decided to finally confront being gay
I did it at warp 9, telling the entire eastern seaboard within a five-week
period) That put me in the awkward position of having to phone one woman
and tell her over the phone -- I preferred the personal touch, but in this
case it seemed better than having someone else blurt it out over dinner.
So I took a deep breath, called Adrienne, and said "umm, since I've been
living back in Toronto, umm, I've had to come to grips with some realities
about myself. And umm, the thing is, I guess. I mean, well I've been trying
to avoid the fact that I'm, uh, gay."

There was this pause on the end of phone. Just long enough for me to start
getting, oh, you know, COMPLETELY PANIC STRICKEN.

And Adrienne said, "Oh yeah. Well that's great. Listen, did you want me to
bring wine, or desert or anything?"

I was flattened like a penny on the railway tracks. Here I was, confessing
the most intimate secret of my life, laying bare the black core of my soul,
speaking the unmentionable truth that had laid waste to my life for the 
past, oh I don't know, 10 years, and Adrienne was reacting as if I had told
her Imelda Marcos really only had 2,985 pairs of shoes.

For MOST people, your being gay isn't nearly as big a deal as it is for
you.

And then there was the time this cute guy at work that I'd been having
beers with for a couple weeks came out to me as a HETEROSEXUAL. By this
time I'd been so open about being gay that Dan decided he'd better get
it out on the table that he's straight. But how to slide it in to casual
conversation without looking like he just drove up in a half-tonne with 
a gunrack in the back? He ended up humming, and hawing and sounding an
awful lot like me. 

And then there was the time...

-- 
Kevin Crombie		Public Access Unix
UUCP:  {dalcs,ulowell}!iisat!crombie
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe)
Subject: OCA and Supporting Businesses
Keywords: oca, proposition 9
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:15:11 GMT

This query may have already been put and answered but, if so, it was 
missed.  Are there any prominent businesses which have given support 
to the OCA...or the Colorado group for that matter?  If so, has any 
kind of boycott been organized?  

Colburn Eigen                            H|u> = E|u>
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Anagram program
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:58:23 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Oct13.120512.8153@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>I['ve] got Digital Webster on *this* machine ...

BTW, the OED 2nd edition is out on CD-ROM now.  It's supposed
to have very good search procedures, in addition to all the words
and definitions of the printed version. Of course, it costs $895....

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:49:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.182958.26087@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>,
ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) wrote:
> 
> In article <ldrc2cINNi92@spim.mti.sgi.com> dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
> 
> >Fuck off...
> 
> Maybe if you beg, but probably not even then.

Your loss, 'Grand Ma.'

Melmothra, ACC
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:56:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct14.165631.22402
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

I wish Dominick Zurlo would put a blank line between quoted material and
his own and also put spaces between his paragraphs.  His stuff at present
is impossible to read.

It is also a nice idea to reformat quoted material so that it's < 79 columns,
including the "> ".

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My Bad Mouth
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:44:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cwis.thaaang.719207099
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:

>So, ever so slowly, I let my guard down, and let a little bit more of 
>myself be seen here (Rooster Rock notwithstanding).

(Homina homina!)

>And I do remember when our JD was flamed, way back when the thaaang was
>just a "Guest Accountant."

I was hit by the hugest wave of *nostalgia* when I read this; that was
so long ago! Probably about a year by now. My, how things change...

John, wondering he's going to do write some kind of big, sappy thank-
you thing to everyone for helping him learn and grow so much during
the time he's been reading here

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: Re: Even more anti-queer violence in Oregon
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:40:12 GMT

How many reports have there been of Nazi's (or whatever these scum are), 
using the lists they have stolen? Its pretty clear that there is a conspiracy
to get as many names of queers as they can. If they are going to this much
trouble they are definitly up to something much more serious than just trying
to cripple the opposition to #9.

Atleast one good thing about them attacking churchs is the fact that it will
make Christians see what happens when they conviently ignore hate groups.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: Out in a snap (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:25:23 GMT
Organization: (getting there)

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) caught the typo:

 >idea of waking up with John Darrance) are of that sort.
                               ^
But still leaves an interesting "mento":
 >I have an anagram program, but it is decidely weak and would
 >not have compare with the one Eamonn/Fred seem to be using.
 >If Eamonn or Fred will sense me sources, I will put them up
 >for anon ftp on my machine.

If they "sense" you the sources, maybe you could put them up 
for anon esp and save wear and tear on the net.



-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Scott Lively convicted, and this week's hate crimes
Keywords: OCA, Measure 9, hate crimes
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:26:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct8.072606.15501
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Oct7.213819.10267@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>>3. HARASSING PHONE CALLS AIMED AT "ANNE FRANK IN THE WORLD" EXHIBIT
>>   The First United Methodist Church of PDX has received four harassing
>>   phone calls about the Anne Frank exhibit that opens this Friday.
>>   "Basically, they say Anne Frank is a hoax," said Wendy Liebreich,
>>   who heads the "Anne Frank in the World" committee that is presenting
>>   the exhibit.  The American Jewish Committee has also received such
>>   calls.  No specific threats were made, and 24-hour security arrangements
>>   have been made.
>
>	Speaking of the AFinW exhibit, it is true what I heard that all
>references to GBLO*-victims of the Holocaust were removed from this exhibit?
>If so, what sort of message is that giving: "IT's OK to revise history
>if only to remove faggots from any positive lght."  (As if the death
>of tens of thousands of people could be construed in any wa y"positive".
>
>BBC


I don't know about the exhibit but I heard about a year ago that there
was opposition to having any references to GBLO* victims at the national
memorial being built in D.C.  Is this still a factor?  I haven't heard
any thing for a while.  I have made a decision about not singing with
PGMC on Oct. 25th at the AF exhibit based on the memorial controversy.  So
if I anyone out there has an update please let me know!

Bil Snodgrass III
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:41:05 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct7.212202.9629@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
|> 
|> 	Who's MAdonna?

A woman who is seen in knots on trees.  She seems to be somehow related
to Elvis....



FWA
-Who is listening to "I Will Survive" as he types.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: Bob Roberts (was: Quayle Campaign Stroll Disrupted in SF)
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:00:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.100155.28008@quantime.co.uk> roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
>Has (bother, is it Tim or Tom?) Collins' film,
>_Bob Roberts_ been shown in the States?

Tim Robbins.  It's even made it to Ithaca.
--
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:00:45 GMT
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ

In article <1992Oct8.143900.28635@fig.citib.com> swc@fig.citib.com (Steve Carpenter) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct2.143845.836@fig.citib.com>, glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>|> There is also a strange phenomenon which is associated
>|> with this removal of body hair - a *stunning* increase
>|> in nelliness.  Perhaps body hair secretes some sort of
>|> butchizing hormone.  
>
>But dahlink!! With all your fur, what's your excuse????  <snap>

Didn't he tell you? poor dear, I guess he doesn't love you.  The secret
is that its all Lee press-on fur.  I personally think its shameful for
Lee to take advantage of him like that, and he isn't fooling anyone anyway.
His sugar-sweetums wears ralph lauren, for heaven's sake!  Still, you have
to give the poor dear credit for trying, its just that he can't quite get
that butch stiffness of the shoulders, the stilted gait, the constantly
balled fists, the perpetual scowl.

Ry
ry@usl.com
(wondering if the Hudson between us is enough)
From: his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM (Howard Solomon - SunExpress Support Engineer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Birthday Greetings (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: the-temple.east.sun.com

In article 975@quantime.co.uk, roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
>Just so's I've got this clear, the "year one graduates"
>(making one "class of XXXX") is
>the year in which one's last year in "high school" ended, right?
>
>And in which month do your USA high school years end?
>-- 
>Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk


True.  And HS usually ends in June.

Howard

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From: anthropo@carina.unm.edu (Dominick V. Zurlo)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Neanderthal!  Don't insult them!
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:13:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct6.214611.7159@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:
>
>You gotta love this town, Episode MCDLXVIII...
>
>Quayle was in San Francisco yesterday evening to speak at
>a fundraiser in Chinatown for Republican neanderthal (and
>Senate candidate) Bruce Herschensohn.
 Ok, now, I agree with everything else that was in this, but please, 
lets not insult our forebearers the Neanderthals!?  They were good 
people, at least until we came along and wiped them out.  besides, 
Neanderthals had larger brain cases than we do, and I personally find
men with lots of hair and heavy brow ridges very sexy!!!!  Don't insult
them by equating Bruce (cough cough) herschensohn with members of our species.
Now, calling him a Parasite of some sort would be cool, maybe a tapeworm?

Any ideas?

Flapjack,
ANthropology: definition: lit. Study of man,  loosely, "I love to study men!!"
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ba.motss
From: jgp@raid.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Subject: "Disco - The Rhythm Divine"
Organization: Rational
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:33:34 GMT

Did anyone happen to tape the episode on disco stars of the '70s that
was on the "Rave" series on the A&E cable channel last month?  I suspect
this was the same film shown at the recent SF G&L film festival, and
would like to get a copy.

I called A&E and they said there are no repeats of "Rave" scheduled yet.

Please send e-mail.

Thanks.

-- Jim

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