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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: select () broken in 0.96cpl2?
Keywords: KERNEL
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:35:27 GMT

In article <dirkst.712200984@kaa> dirkst@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dirk Steinberg) writes:
>Am I the only one or did someone else notice?
>Ever since I upgraded from 0.96c pl1 to pl2 zsh and X stopped
>working. I had no problems before. The X server does not
>respond to mouse movements at all, and although the xterm
>appears, there is no shell in it. When I run zsh (from hlu)
>it prints a prompt, but I cannot type anything.
>As ps(1) shows, in both cases the process hangs in do_select()
>so I wonder whether it might be broken.
>
>Any comments?
>
>	Dirk
>-- 
>---
>Dirk W. Steinberg
>Aachen University of Technology
>email: dirkst@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

This message is coming to you via Linux 0.96c-pl2, X11v1.1, xterm, bash, and
kermit.  Everything is working OK for me, maybe zsh is broken?


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: New MGR testing version for programmers available per ftp
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:42:24 GMT

While I found mgr easily (try ftp.uni-koeln.de; change to thp directory),
I am having trouble with m4.  The binary on tsx-11 doesn't work with .96c,
and I am having trouble compiling the m4 sources also found there.

After applying the patches included in the sources, I get error about
abort being redefined in obstack.c (in the lib dir).

Has anyone a solution for this, or a m4 binary that works with .96c

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: Coherent 4.0 / Linux wrt BYTE Mag.
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:21:53 GMT

There is a VERY nice write-up on Coherent 4.0 in the August issue of BYTE, page
37.  The author says a lot of nice things about it, but it seems that linux
is better, cause we now have X, and coherent doesn't.

Anyway, he seems to be very pleased with a *n*x for under $100 US.
I figure that the author needs to be introduced to Linux, but it will require
a lot of follow-up mail, and I don't wan't to bother with it(I pay to mail...).
Anyway, his address is: ben@bytepb.byte.com

Naybe linux will even get a write-up as a result?

someone PLEASE follow-up on this (small) lead.  :)
From: haldane@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Steve Sykes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Formatting Hard disks??
Summary: Can you format a hard disk under linux
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:54:36 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

Apologies if this is an FAQ!

I'm about to remove DOS from my disk...But before I do I want to make
sure that I can format a new second hard disk without using DOS.

What about it guys?  And if so...where do I find the code???

Thanks
Laurence Culhane
From: Michael_Kraehe@hb.maus.de (Michael Kraehe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.96c + X + Logi :-(
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:13:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Hy folks,

I'm working with Linux 0.96a and X for several weeks, great system :-)

today I tried to install 0.96c form <wowbagger.pc-labor.uni-bremen.de>

Booting 0.96c works fine :-)
Installing GCC-2.2.2 works fine :-)
Compiling 0.96c works fine :-)

Now I tried to run X, but now I have a jumping mouse :-(

               **** The same FUCK OF LOGI I've read about ****

So I installed X11/v1.1, hoping that my logi stops jumping, but now
if I type startx I only get a black screen :-(

So I made a one night stand of downpatching to 0.96a+Socketpatch, and now
I have my a already running 0.96a+ with X11/v1.0 back :-)

But can somebody tell me what can be wrong :-)

    - Is there a patch for 0.96c witch makes the logimouse running
      as usual "Mousesystems" ?
    - Why do I get a black screen if running X11/v1.1 ?

By Michael.

PS : Oh yes i tried out "Mousesystems", "Microsoft", and "Logitech" in
     Xconfig. And I have <less> all the FAQ's :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Subject: How to get a Mtools source ?
Reply-To: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:43:23 GMT

RFC-822-Headers:
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

==================
X-Mn-Key: normal

Hi Linux community,

I ran into a problem with the sources for mtools. I downloaded the
mtools-2.0.5.tar.Z package and tried to patch it with the mtools-patches.tar
from banjo-mit.mirror.
What am I doing wrong ? (It fails at certain hunks ....)
Thanks in advance,
Steffen

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From: nhc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (n.h.chandler)
Subject: Re: New MGR testing version for programmers available per ftp
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:05:09 GMT
Summary: MGR beta

In article <1992Jul23.182839.223482@cs.cmu.edu>, mfp+@CS.CMU.EDU (Michael Polis) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.005611.958@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, nhc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (n.h.chandler) writes:
> |> Michael Haardt has made another host containing the MGR beta version
> |> available.  Try [134.95.80.1],  I had the same problem trying to access
> |> ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de. 
> 
> I don't have any trouble accessing this host, but I do have trouble finding the
> file.  Whould you post the directory?
---

The release is in "/pub/thp/linux/beta/mgr".

Neville H. Chandler
nhc@mtdcr.att.com
From: barr@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to use mouse in x11emacs???
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul28.163813.15832
Organization: University of Washington

nolet@concour.cs.concordia.ca (Nolet Richard G.) writes:

>Well.... the Subject says it all. I downloaded the x11emacs binary from
>tsx (or was it banjo? :). I would have thought that an X version of
>emacs would use the mouse for cursor and cut & paste operations. Can
>someone point out what needs to be done to activate the mouse.

Look at x-mouse.el in your emacs lisp directory and you should be able
to figure it out.  Basically, you click the left button to set the
point and click the middle button to insert stuff.  Clicking the right
button copies from the point to wherever you click.  Holding down
control while you click the middle button cuts everything between the
point and where you click.

>Also - is it possible to have only one binary of emacs that figures out
>whether it's executing in X or not.

Sure.  If the environmental variable DISPLAY is set, then emacs will
run in X mode unless you use the -nw flag.  In all other cases, it
runs in normal, non-X mode.

>Thanks for the pointers. (Great job with everything: OS GCC X etc, etc...)

>--
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Richard Nolet                          "I am not sure what this is, but |
>| nolet@cs.concordia.ca  (Montreal)       an `F' would only dignify it."  |
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+


David
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca (Doug Evans)
Subject: Wanted: Xenix filesystem for Linux beta testers
Organization: Edmonton, Alberta
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:28:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Having written a Xenix filesystem for Linux (more on why later :-),
I figure I might as well see if anyone else wants it.

Why? I have gobs of source and data files and don't want two copies of it all
(one for when I boot Xenix and one for when I boot Linux). Now I can boot
either and have access to *one* copy. Of course, I still need separate
binaries, .o's, etc. but no big deal. I also have one news spool directory
and can read news in Xenix or Linux (and mail and uucp logs, etc.).

I also wrote it because I have the CMS Xenix device driver for the Jumbo 250
tape drive. I back up Linux when I back up Xenix! Way cool!

My setup is now:

200MB IDE	30MB DOS
		50MB Xenix (root+swap)
		60MB Linux (root+swap)
		60MB Xenix/Linux (/usr/spool)

1Gig SCSI	100MB DOS
		300MB Xenix/Linux (/home)
		300MB Xenix/Linux (/usr/src)
		360MB Xenix/Linux (/u)

For Linux'ers wanting a *real* filesystem :-) this ain't it. File names are
still max 14 chars and in this case there are no symbolic links.

You also *need* Xenix. I haven't written mkfs/fsck for Linux, but plan
to "sometime". The filesystem was quite easy given that the Minix filesystem
isn't *that* different (they're all SysV variants). The only real difference
(that comes to mind) is the bitmaps vs free list, so I should be able to take
Linux's mkfs/fsck and adapt them.

I don't have Xenix divvy table or badtrk table support, and don't plan to for
the nonce. I just don't need them, and plugging these in seemed to require more
substantial changes to Linux than just plugging in a filesystem.
For my Xenix/Linux filesystems, I just did an mkfs on the entire partition,
and bypassed divvy.

So, any takers? (If so, please email).
-- 
Doug Evans               | "You're just supposed to sit here?"
dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca    |               - Worf in a mud bath.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "John Stump" <jstump@vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: shutdown problem
Reply-To: jstump@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:00:39 GMT

I tried using the shutdown utility from the 0.96c root disk under 0.96cpl2
and it gave me messages "cannot umount /dev//dev/hda3" and "cannot
umount /dev//dev/hda2" or something to that effect. These are indeed
mounted as / and /usr.

It seems shutdown is prepending /dev/ when it is already there. Are there
newer binaries for this? And where is the source? I can't seem to locate
it at the usual sites in the usual places.

John "I survived the George Long Flaming War" Stump (jstump@vnet.ibm.com)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krej@electrum.kth.se (Kristian Ejvind)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu Linux
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:46:09 GMT

In article <2134@fnnews.fnal.gov> rohrer@fncrda.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer) writes:
   I have had similar experiences with tsx-11, but only when I cause tsx-11 to
   not find a filename.  If I don't mistype anything, I'm okay, but when I refer
   to a name that isn't there the tsx-11 server gets very confused.  That or it
   confuses my FTP client; somebody want to ftp tsx-11 in Very Verbose Mode and

This is the same behaviour as I have experienced. I'm on a sun4 running 
SunOS 4.1.2.

/Kristian
From: ajh@uk.co.gec-mrc (Andrew Haylett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Would a trace(1) facility be useful?
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:25:24 GMT
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I've made substantial use in the past of Sun's trace(1) facility for tracing
systems calls and arguments from user code. Admittedly, it is more essential in
a binary-only system, but such a facility could still be useful and interesting
for Linux.

To implement this would probably be fairly tricky, and I'm not up to it. We
have a fairly complete ptrace(2), but I think it would need to support the
PTRACE_SYSCALL function to trap on system calls. The PD 'strace' package by
Paul Kranenburg could form a starting point for a trace implementation, though
it was written for Suns and would probably have to be disembowelled. There may
be simpler code lying around.

And whether any of this is POSIX, or just a Sun-ism, I don't know at all. Any
comments?
-- 
Andrew Haylett       | Inet: ajh@gec-mrc.co.uk   | Fax: +44 245 75244
GEC-Marconi Research | Tel: +44 245 73331 x.3283 | Telex: 995016 GECRES G
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: Re: mrphmpmmmph shoelace and partitions
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:44:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.210010.4405@bernina.ethz.ch> I wrote:
> I've had this sitting around for a long time. A patch I've originally
> made for 0.96c-pl1 and that seems to work unmodified for 0.96c-pl2 is
> at the end of this posting.

Well, "seems" was the right word. The last time I've tested it was with
0.96b and a silly bug made it into the hasty upgrade to 0.96c-pl1. The
patch at the end of this posting should fix it. (Untested - I don't have
an original 0.96c-pl2 kernel on my PC.) I'll make a cleaner (and
thoroughly tested) patch when the next "official" kernel patch is out,
so if you can wait for this, please do.

- Werner

---------------------------------- cut here -----------------------------------

*** super.orig	Thu Jul 30 23:55:54 1992
--- super.c	Thu Jul 30 23:59:24 1992
***************
*** 274,280 ****
  		if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode)) retval = -EPERM;
  		else if ((dev = loop_getdev(inode)) < 0) retval = dev;
    	}
! 	iput(inode);
  	if (retval)
  		return retval;
  	if ((new_flags & 0xffff0000) == 0xC0ED0000) {
--- 274,280 ----
  		if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode)) retval = -EPERM;
  		else if ((dev = loop_getdev(inode)) < 0) retval = dev;
    	}
! 	if (retval || MAJOR(dev) != LOOP_MAJOR) iput(inode);
  	if (retval)
  		return retval;
  	if ((new_flags & 0xffff0000) == 0xC0ED0000) {
-- 
   _________________________________________________________________________
  / Werner Almesberger, ETH Zuerich, CH      almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch /
 / IFW A44  Tel. +41 1 254 7213                 almesberger@rzvax.ethz.ch /
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stempien@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Brian Stempien)
Subject: Kernel Compile problems
Summary: build.c fails
Keywords: build.c
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:28:05 GMT

Hi all,
  I have a question.  Has anyone got build to compile?  I get errors in
stdlib.h like: parse error before '*'.  I let the kernel compile for 5
hours (386sx 16mhz 2MEG is so slow....) and then it dies on this last
little program.  I grabbed stdlib.h off the archives again in case garbage
got into it during the download, no joy.  I have looked at the code, I
can't see anything wrong with it, it is like gcc2.2.2 just decides not to
like it.  If some one can help or send me a compiled build I would really
appreciate it!  Good luck! Happy Linuxing....


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: weiler@peach.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Weiler)
Subject: Re: yacc and lex
Originator: weiler@peach.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
	<WEILER.92Jul21213719@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Jul22.080207.21315@fys.ruu.nl>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:59:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.080207.21315@fys.ruu.nl> hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) writes:
   Well written? The wool.lex code from the GWM window manager can be `flex'ed,
   but the resulting C code is incorrect. The GWM program redefines some of the
   macros which are in lex, but which are implemented differently in flex. I've
   run into this kind of problems with flex repeatedly.

   Bison is another story. Never had any problems using `bison -y' instead of 
   yacc. I have atually installed a script called yacc, which calls `bison -y'.

OK. I retract my statement about lex and flex being compatable. I've
never used lex much. I've usually written my own lexical analyzer for
my projects (they're usually very simple and just don't need
lex/flex). What I've really used is bison and all the yacc code I've
seen runs perfectly well with bison; I assumed flex would have been
the same way. I guess not.

- Jerry
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu (Douglas E. Quale)
Subject: Linux API (was Re: Linux problems)
Organization: Undergraduate Projects Lab, UW Madison
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:59:01 GMT

In article <920719621@myamig2.myamiga.mixcom.com> smp@myamig2.myamiga.mixcom.com (Steve Palm) writes:
> 
> I've had friends in the Un*x community ask me "What is Linux like?  Is it
> a SYSV or BSD flavor?"   I am at a loss, because it rather seems to be some
> of both.  Perhaps this is it's POSIX showing through?
> 

Could be.  I would recommend the new book, _Advanced_Programming_in_the_
UNIX_Environment_, by W. Richard Stevens.  Linux looks a lot like this
(POSIX), and I think it will look even more like it in the future.
-- 
Doug Quale
quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu
From: csg203@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Bluebeard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help! everyone is "bin",
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:03:27 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Elf Bashers Anonymous

In article <C-AMB.92Jul29101330@solitude.math.utah.edu> c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston) writes:
>
>	Currently when anyone besides root logs in they are given bin
>privilages.  whoami always shows bin while who shows the correct users
>loged in.  I am running off of a highly modified mcc-interim release.
>Just before the problem occured I copied the shutdown binaries from
>the 0.96 root disk.  I also copied mount, and a few other programs
>from the root disk (I can't remember them all now).  I checked the
>/etc/passwd file and the /etc/group file and everything seems ok.  Any
>Ideas?

Make sure that /bin/login is owned by root.



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From: bsp10@cd.amdahl.com (Byong Pak)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Slip and tcp/ip
Keywords: help
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:17:17 GMT
Reply-To: bsp10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I have a question about slip and tcp/ip.  If my understanding of this is
correct.  The current linux kernal does not have slip and tcp/ip support in 
it.   However, I seem to remember that something called kaq9 is supposed to 
be a program that could help you get around that.  Now, I downloaded the 
kaq9 from tsx-11.mit.edu source and looked at the readme files.  I do not 
neccessarly understand what slip and tcp/ip work with this kaq9.  Can someone 
out there who has gotten slip and tcp/ip to work with linux 96cpl1 explain 
how kaq9 fits in to all this since slip is not in the kernel.  

The overall goal of this is to see if X running on my sun at work can display
the output on my home computer running linux with a high speed connection.
i.e. 9600+ (with all the hardware compression I can get...)  I would appreciate
any help on this matter and if the response is great. I'll keep a list and post
the results....

Thanks for you help.

Byong
-- 
* Byong "the pakman" Pak             * These opinions are my own and do *
*        aka                         *   not reflect the opinions or    *
*  email:  bsp10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com *    policies of Amdahl Corp.      *
*  phone:  408-746-7871              *                                  *
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: time command for linux
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:21:08 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

I wrote and uploaded a time command for Linux. It's in the time.tar.Z
file, not to be confused with timebin.tar.Z which holds something else
(date I think). This version has one slight extension, if you create a
link called timet it displays the total CPU (user+sys) time, added
because I was checking some things and was tired of adding the two
numbers by hand.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Third request for doc info
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Followup-To: poster
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY


  This is the third time I've posted this, maybe I'll get lucky. I'm
trying to get a mouse to work with X. The first time I asked where the
docs were, people said I needed P/L2 for a bus mouse, only serial mice
worked. So I got the new kernel and installed it, and it didn't work
with the bus mouse. So I went out and got a serial mouse and port (this
is an odd config, had only one serial), changed the Xconfig and
/etc/cantremember, and tried again. Still nothing, but /dev/mouse is
gone!

  I don't want guesses, if there is some documentation I can read please
point me to it. If not I'll forget for now and do something useful. I
have an nice X system to use, I'm just play with linux and would rather
port my software than spend hours diddling with undocumented software
from someone else.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt)
Subject: Re: Setuid?
Organization: Folkeaksjonen for (tungt) eple cider p} Inf. stua
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:52:52 GMT
Originator: janl@maud.ifi.uio.no


In article <920719904@myamig2.myamiga.mixcom.com>, smp@myamig2.myamiga.mixcom.com (Steve Palm) writes:
> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
> : The setuid bit is done by doing a chmod 6xxx (where x are your normal values)
>  Wouldn't a setuid be a chmod 4xxx?  I thought 6xxx was setuid/setgid.

Ah, much easier than that
  setuid: chmod u+s foo
  setgid: chomd g+s foo

Of-course this is somewhat wimpy (not using octal codes) but it works
well...

Nicolai

-- 
Nicolai Langfeldt, "Bugs made while you wait"             
Internet: janl@ifi.uio.no

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu Linux
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:31:19 GMT

In article <2134@fnnews.fnal.gov> rohrer@fncrda.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer) writes:
>In article <8eR_8cS00WBFI=I0VM@andrew.cmu.edu>, wm0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Wayne P. Myers) writes:
>|> Is anyone else out there having problems ftp-ing from tsx-11.mit.edu?
>|> I've been trying to get the newest release of linux, for about two weeks
>|> now. When I issue the get, or mget command to pull a file/files I get
>|> tranfer failed. Then when I do an ls I have to do it about three times
>|> before it shows me anything. Now I've ftp'd from this site in the past
>I have had similar experiences with tsx-11, but only when I cause tsx-11 to
>not find a filename.  If I don't mistype anything, I'm okay, but when I refer
>to a name that isn't there the tsx-11 server gets very confused.  That or it
>confuses my FTP client; somebody want to ftp tsx-11 in Very Verbose Mode and
>see what the heck it's doing?  And fix it?

Maybe it is an mit problem in general?  The same thing has been happening
when I ftp prep.  It might be somewhere else, though, as it also happened
when I ftp'd nic.funet.fi recently.  I've even gotten responses back in
a different order than I issued the commands!  :-)


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)