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From: martin@chiton.ucsd.edu (Martin Olivera)
Subject: Re: MUSIC IN LABOUR
Organization: Scripps Inst. of Oceanography - MPL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:36:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.142901.24441@newscan.canada.sun.com> steph@luvmycats.oerth (Stephanie Wilkie) writes:
>
>Has anyone out there brought music (tape recorder or
>radio) into the labour room with them to help them
>cope/relax, whatever?

In our hospital (Scripps Memorial, La Jolla) they had a TV set and stereo
system in each labor room. When we took a tour of the facilities that was one
of the things we liked the most. When my wife went into labor we took a couple
of her favorite CDs and played them until we went to the delivery room. It was
really helpful to have the music there (Vivaldi mostly).

You should talk with your doctor and hospital and ask them if they allow
music equipment in the labor rooms (I'm sure they do). If they do, I highly
recommend it. It worked wonders for us.

Martin
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From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Chicken Pox
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:40:16 GMT

In article <C0EJG2.4xv@SSD.intel.com> wang@ssd.intel.com (Wen-Lin Wang) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.194800.1710@cbnewse.cb.att.com> elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen) writes:
>>
>>...  She hasn't had the chicken pox yet
>>either, and it seemed to me that at her age she ought to get
>>the chicken pox vaccine...
>
>First of all I am glad to hear there is such vaccine.  Can this vaccine
>be given to babies as part of their immunization program?  When I asked
>my daughter's pediatrician a couple of years ago, she disapproved such a
>notion and gave me an impression that such vaccine either does not exist
>or is not worth it.  I don't even know if I had chicken pox :(.

The vaccine has been long in coming. According to an article in the LA Times
this morning, it should get final approval soon. (this is one of those 
beginning of the year type articles that talk about potential changes over
the course of the year).

Laura Floom
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: Another **New Mommy** Question
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:25:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.170624.4928@memstvx1.memst.edu> mcsnewton@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>Hello Again!!
>
>This the **New Mommy** once again, with yet another question!!
>
>OK, whenever I lie down and roll over onto my side (either one, it doesn't
>matter) I feel the baby kicking like crazy!!  Is it possible that the baby is
>getting skwooshed or something??

  It happens to me too.  But I don't think it's harmful.  I think he/she
  is just adjusting to the new position.  For example if you're on your
  right side and the baby stops moving and you suddenly turn over to your
  left side, they'll start kicking and squirming again.  With my son you
  can actually see him move his back to the other side.  He was head
  down facing my back, so his back was up front and he'd move it from
  side to side.  Actually you can view it as good exercise for the baby!
>
>I know that I'm not supposed to lie down on my back, but does it matter about
>the right or left sides??  

  They usually recommend left side so that baby gets maximum blood flow.
>
>My questions may sound stupid, but I have NO idea and my childbirth class isn't
>until next Monday, so I can't ask my instructor until then.

  They're not stupid questions, don't worry.
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From: sharon@starbase.mitre.org (Sharon J. Laskowski)
Subject: Re: **NEW MOMMY NEEDS HELP!!**
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:59:33 GMT

In <1992Dec30.172953.4801@memstvx1.memst.edu> mcsnewton@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:


>Hello Everybody!!!!

>My husband and I will be expecting our first child February 18, 1993 (at least
>that's what the doctors say).  Anyway, my husband grew up with a little sister
>and he helped take care of her, while I on the other hand, have never had any
>brothers or sisters and know NOTHING about taking care of a baby!! 
>Needless to say, I'm scared SILLY!!  We start our childbirth classes next
>week,so I guess that's a plus.  

When my husband and I had our first baby (we have 3 children now) we knew 
absolutely nothing about babies--never babysat, never changed a diaper,
hardly held one and didn't have a grandmother nearby to help.  
After 1 week home with the newborn we were experts on these 
things.  My advice is to read a few basic baby books, ask the nurses at
the hospital questions (sometimes they give classes while you're there), 
find a good pediatrician ahead of time and don't be afraid to ask questions,
and ABOVE ALL love the baby, trust your own common sense, RELAX and ENJOY.
You'll do just fine.

>I was wondering, if there are any kind souls out there who could give a few
>helpful hints on things like:

>Breast-feeding (which I'm still mulling over) versus formula-feeding

I breastfed all 3 of mine.  I found that nursing the baby every 2 hours 
for the first 2 weeks, even if you have to wake her up ensures that you
build up a good milk supply and get into a good routine. I mention this 
because I  haven't seen it emphasized very much. Definitely give the breast-
feeding a good try--it's a wonderful experience, but does require a bit
of practice initially.
>A good time to go back to work (I just graduated and will be hearing about a
>few offers very soon)
If you have a choice, stay at home for 3 months at least, enjoy the baby
and get comfortable with being a mother. I've worked part time since the 
birth of my first.

>Rooming-In versus being separated right after birth 

Spend as much initial time as you can with the baby--you won't want to 
separated at all once you see her. Also see note on frequent breastfeeding

>What to do when the baby kicks SOOOOO much, you think she's doing somersaults!!
Talk to the baby, move around, rub your stomach--eventually she'll stop.

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day )
Subject: Re: Childproofing (NOT!)
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:11:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.173509.6225@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>,
lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) wrote:
> I used to have fun with the child lock on the toilet. >:-> (that is supposed
> to be an evil grin). It was fun seeing how long it took people to figure it 
> out, or gave up and came looking for me. The record was held by best friend,
> also a mom - though she had never seen that particular lock. My neighbor,
> the architect gave up and asked. My boyfriend (now husband) took surprisingly
> long for an engineer. 
> 
> I cant wait to put it back on in a year or so >;->
> 
> Laura Floom

I've had great fun with this one too - until my maid service (aren't
I lucky?;-) couldn't figure it out and just ripped it off to clean the
toilet >:-<!  How rude!!!  

We had some friends over once, the guy went to use the bathroom,
was there an awfully looonnng time, then came out and nonchalantly
went out into the backyard.  It wasn't until later that I realized he 
probably just couldn't get the lid-lock open and went out to pee on my
flowers <:-0!

Kevran (mom to Jason - 2.5YO and Kylie 2.5MO)
day_kevran@tandem.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: How to protect your family from the State
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 03:52:52 GMT

pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:

>*WHAT* is this guy trying to hide? What is he *doing* to his kids, that he's 
>so uptight about the idea of allowing any outsiders to see what goes on in 
>his home? Come on, normal folks don't worry so much about being caught that
>they write (or copy) many paragraphs on the subject!

>It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

It makes me wonder how the Constitution has lasted as long as it has, when
most people say "If I'm clean, why should I worry?"  You should worry, Paula,
because social workers can take your kids away because they weigh too much
or too little; because you have reported to the police bad things that have
happened to your children, or alternatively, because you HAVEN'T reported
these things; because you follow a religion that your neighbors don't like;
because your children are doing poorly in school; because a jealous or
spiteful former aquaintance has made anonymous reports; because a daycare
worker likes to hallucinate elaborate scenarios that could not have possibly
occured.  You yourself can be jailed just for breastfeeding your baby.
(I have the article on that last one; it's a beaut.)  When they came for the
homeschoolers children, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a homeschooler.
When they came for the neo-pagan's children, I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a neo-pagan... and so it goes.


Paul Ciszek                      When we are planning for posterity, we
                                 ought to remember that virtue is not
pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu            hereditary.     --Thomas Paine
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From: barb@sq.sq.com (Barbara Burrows)
Subject: Re: Help!  Baby fusses at breast--
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:35:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.034708.22762@news.acns.nwu.edu> connie@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Constance Stillinger) writes:
>Sometimes when I feed Morris, my 2-week-old, he will latch on, nurse
>for a minute or two, and then start to cry and struggle (arching his
>back, kicking, and pulling his head back).  He'll be okay for another
>minute after I take him off the breast and put him back on, and then
>he'll start to fuss again.
>
>I'm really at a loss on this.  I know he's getting plenty to eat
>ultimately because he gained a pound and a half in his first two weeks
>and he's making plenty of wet and dirty diapers.  I *think* I'm
>positioning him right because my nipples aren't sore.  I do change
>positions from feeding to feeding and alternate starting breasts.
>
>He's not particularly fussy between feedings, and sometimes he's calm
>during a feeding.  A burp, passing gas, or a bowel movement during a
>feeding will sometimes calm him, but not always.
>
>Does anyone have any insight?  I suspect it may be gas or
>uncomfortable peristalsis stimulated by feeding that he'll eventually
>outgrow, but I sure would like to make him more comfortable now if
>possible.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Connie (Morris's mom)


	Is it possible that he gets fussy after a few minutes
	because your milk production is down....he's getting
	enough for the first little while and then not.  This
	happened to me after I'd been home with my baby about two 
	weeks and started to get busier....especially at the end of
	the day....I had to conciously remember to drink lots
	of fluids.....and, here's the big one, REST.  When I
	did my milk production was back up and no more fussiness.

	Just a thought.

					
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From: jbrindle@halcyon.com (Jennifer Brindle)
Subject: Re: circ on older baby
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:27:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.191629.8139@ttinews.tti.com> reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.235845.7512@island.COM> guido@island.COM (Guido Marx) writes:
>>In article <199301051401.AA08246@tuna.wang.com> AMY.UHRBACH@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Amy Uhrbach") writes:
>>>My OB, who did the
>>>circ, refused, said it doesn't hurt babies, they only cry from cold or being
>>>undressed, etc.  HAH!!!  
>
>The OBSTETRICIAN did the circ?  Is that common?
>
YES.  You should have known that!
It was in all the childbirth classes.

>Some babies do scream at being circumcized, others barely blink.  No
>one knows exactly why, but the blanket statement that they don't feel
>it is absurd (I've never heard a mohel claim this - has anyone else?).
>I would also vote for a mohel over a pediatrician.  They do more of
>them, and the techniques they use are less prone to accident (they do
>not cauterize, for example).  I don't know if most mohels will do a
>non-jewish circumcision, though.  Does anyone know if there's a
>Halachic (Jewish Law) issue which would prevent it?

There is no reason why a non-jewish child can't be circumcized in that manner.
I know several who've gone that route.

However, an individual may refuse.  The easiest and best route is not to
cut in the first place, unless you're bound by religious beliefs.

Jennifer


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: Common Sense and Participation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:03:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

>in article <16B4DBDA0.CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> Teresa Creech wrote:
>
>In article <19930105101523SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
>Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com> writes:
>
>>>in article <208@dpfe.UUCP> David R Huddleston Sr announces:
>>>Come on people!!  [tyrade deleted]
>>>...
>>>As a parent, it is your JOB to do this, and if all you care about is a
>>>new house and car, then don't have kids!!!!!
>>>
>>>$
>>
>>I think someone has had too much caffeine. :)
>>
>>TAMARA 
>>(Not that I disagree with his opinions, but a lot can be said for
>> method of delivery when presenting one's opinions.)
>
>
>Gee, let's bash the professional parents.  How unfair....
 
For the record, I wasn't bashing anyone, except *maybe* David.  I too
am a professional parent.  I just thought David sounded way too wound
up.
 
>[part deleted]
>I wish that people wouldn't try to push their way of life on everyone
>else.  I like the fact that everyone is different.  It makes the world
>interesting.  If we were all the same, the world would be boring.
 
I totally agree.
 
>Also, nobody MAKES you be a scoutmaster, etc.  You chose to do this.
>Don't give me grief because I choose to spend the time with my
>immediate family instead of with everyone elses kids.
 
Me too.
 
>Teresa
>
 
TAMARA
(His opinions with which I agreed were making your kids more important
than your car and house, teaching them manners, and instilling morals.)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: A few Questions
From: <LIBEMC@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 9 Jan 1993 10:12:33 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University

Regarding changing clothes before bed.  Lisa asked if it is okay to leave
the baby in the daytime clothing at night.  My baby was born the same day
as Lisa's (8-14-92).  I change the clothing if she has spit up all over it
or if it is damp from diapers, but otherwise if it looks okay and warm
enough, I leave her in what she was wearing that day.  I wonder if there
is much of a difference between sleepers and other one-piece things, or even
when she is wearing fleece pants and shirt I leave her in those.  Why do
twice the laundry?  Do others always change into night time clothing?
Ellen
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331)
Subject: child sex predictor (vietnamese)
Followup-To: Predict your next child's sex
Reply-To: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:51:43 GMT


>*>
>*>Maybe the male sperm are better swimmers and get out sonner and faster than
>*>the femal sperm, so they deplete faster?
>*>
>*>
>*>-- 
>*>Jim Vacanti   Grew up on IBM :-) mainframes, now I must learn UNIX(tm) :-(   
>*>Sterling Software IMD    /*=============================================*/
>*>uunet!sparky!jbv         /* "If you're not part of the solution, then   */
>*>jbv@IMD.Sterling.COM     /*     you're part of the problem."   (??)     */


Hey Jim - I thought everyone knew!! Male sperms DO swim alot faster, but
peeter ;-) out really fast - and the female sperms take their sweet time swimming
 up there but have MUCH more endurance and stamina to last and hang out (for the 
arrival of the egg)  Hence conception of a boy has to take place in a tight 
window around ovulation.

I also used a chart given to me to predict the sex of the child (given to me by a
Vietnamese fellow) and I have already converted it from their calendar to the regular
English/American one it is as follws - 99% accurate, in fact I planned my daughter by
it and we (everyone here at work) even did the formula on all of us and we are all 
what we were supposed to be (good thing eh? :-) with teh exception of our Boss, who 
should be a girl, but we`ve always wondered about him anyway!!!

Here goes...

FIRST ADD THE YEAR THAT THE MOTHER AND FATHER (OF THE BABY) WERE BORN IN TOGETHER 
(EG; 1961 + 1962 = ODD PARENTS AND 1964 + 1966 = EVEN PARENTS)... 
THEN LOOK DOWN THE FOLLOWING TABLE TO THE MONTH THAT THE PREGNANCY/CONCEPTION TOOK 
PLACE AND NEXT TO IT UNDER YOUR CORRECT COLUMN (IE IF YOU ARE ODD OR EVEN PARENTS) 
WILL BE THE SEX OF THE EXPECTANT CHILD.

ODD PARENTS	MONTH CONCEIVED		EVEN PARENTS
BOY		JANUARY			GIRL
GIRL		FEBRUAURY		BOY
BOY		MARCH			GIRL
GIRL		APRIL			BOY
BOY		MAY			GIRL
GIRL		JUNE			BOY
BOY		JULY			GIRL
GIRL		AUGUST			BOY
BOY		SEPTEMBER		GIRL
GIRL		OCTOBER			BOY
BOY		NOVEMBER		GIRL
GIRL		DECEMBER		BOY

Try this one for accurancy!!

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Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Saturday, 9 Jan 1993 12:25:29 EST
From: <FDMWINK@UCF1VM.BITNET> "Diane M. Wink"
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Vivonex/Tolerex as an infant formula

In article <1993Jan7.190116.26068@cs.ucla.edu>, tiff@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tiffany
Frazier) says:
>story ... I have at least one _major_ concern with this treatment.
>Vivonex derives a mere 2.5% percent of its calories from fat.  Contrast
>this with the following _baby_ formulas: Nutramigen = 35%, Isomil (soy):
>48%, and Similac (cow): 49%.  It is my understanding that the crucial
>time for myelination (sp?) in the brain is in the first two years of life
>AND that *fat in the diet is crucial to this process*.  A 20-fold difference
>between Vivonex and the "popular" baby formulas I find highly distressing!

You raise some important questions.  I suggest you bring up the fat content
issue with your physician the next time you see her (soon I hope).
I also suggest you ask about use of Pregestimil (Mead Johnson) or Alimentum
(Ross Labs).  Both are casein hydrolysate formulas with most of the
protein in the form of amino acids (more than in Nutramigen).
The fat source in Pregestimil is corn oil and MCT oil (medium chain tri-
glycerides) and the fat in Alimentum is MCT oil, oleic oil and soy oil.
Based on your infant's history, Pregestimil may be the best choice.

If, for some reason, Vivonex is still the best option, MCT oil is
available as a supplement and can be added to the other formula.

Another point you may need to discuss with your physician is how
quickly you should expect to see a response.  Often, if there
is some allergic response, it takes time for the intestine to
heal and begin absorbing nutrients normally again.  Good
luck.


Diane M. Wink, EdD RN,C      **INTERNET** FDMWINK@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU
Family Systems Coordinator     **VOICE**  (407) 823-2744
Department of Nursing, College of Health & Public Affairs
University of Central Florida, PO Box 25000, Orlando, FL 32816-2210
From: smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: When to wean after one year?
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:22:37 GMT


I'm still nursing my second daughter, age 12 months, and would
like to hear from other mothers who nursed beyond the first
year.  Stephanie drinks whole milk at daycare, but doesn't really
like it.  At home, she really won't drink it either from a bottle
or a cup.  She will drink a bit of Gatorade or apple juice, but
not enough in my opinion.  If she would drink a bottle of whole
milk pretty well, I would wean her right now, but she won't.

I don't mind still nursing her, because she does enjoy it, and it
still is a good way to get her to calm down, relax, go to sleep,     
etc.  I also feel that since she doesn't drink much from a bottle
or cup, nursing is a good way to round out her meal.  BUT... My 
husband and others are starting to tell me that IT'S TIME TO WEAN.
I understand where they're coming from, since I weaned my first
daughter at 9 1/2 months with no problem, but this daughter is
different.  She ISN'T drinking milk from a bottle or cup like
my first did.

I don't want to nurse her till she's two, but I don't want to stop
yet.  Maybe in a couple of months when I can get her used to the
cup more. 

So, if there are mothers out there that can put my mind to ease
and tell me to go ahead and continue nursing and tell my family
to lay off, please e-mail me.  I need a little support.  Thanks.

Sandy
smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: Book recommend request--trucks
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:23:14 GMT

In article <93007.145513CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Douglas (15 mos) is developing a fascination with trucks/cars/etc.  There
>are a million books along these lines, obviously a hot kid topic.  What ones
>have other children this age enjoyed?  We have, and Doug likes:
>1.  Fire Engines (Anne Rockwell)
>2.  Things that Go (Anne Rockwell)
>3.  Freight Train (Daniel Crews)
>4.  A chunky board book called "Trucks"

>I'm looking for things with good pictures--we aren't really at the "story"
>stage yet.

>Thanks,

>Chris Himes

I just bought my son a book called "Trucks" that sounds like a good
one for your son.  I can't remember the author's name, but he's the
same person who did "Trains".  Neither book has words, just pictures.
This book won the "Caldecott" award.  Your local children's bookstore
should be able to help you find it.

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From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Re: Fertility and frequency
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: Sperm
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:14:00 GMT

>In article <srheault.726691339@cunews> srheault@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Rheault Kihara) writes:
>>My wife and I have been trying for some months now to start a family,
>>and we have been at the receiving end of a barrage of advice from
>>friends. The one point that no-one can agree on is how long we should
>>be waiting between attempts during her fertile days.
>>To put a fine point on it, how long does it take for sperm to build up
>>after they are released? Should we wait 24 hours? 48 hours? Are there
>>enough sperm to try again the same day?
>>
> 
Back in the days when we were making babies, we were told every other
day was optimum, to assure there would a large concentration of
sperm in the semen. Sorry this is not what you wanted to hear. 8-)
                                  Patti Twigg
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