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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:38:46 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (74)
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> Natalie, how come a nice girl from Mississippi knows from Zabar's???

That's right!  Those were Ken's exact words.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:23:38 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: On Eire and Edinburg(h) (was Re: First ma
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              08 Jan 93 08:17:19 -0600. <9301081419.AA01630@sics.se>

  >It's supposedly true of air traffic, although I sometimes wonder if pilots
  >cheat when landing in their own countries.

  No, pilots everywhere use English. The international language of matters
pertaining to mail is French, but I don't know to what extent this is
actually observed.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:34:45 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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> It MIGHT  be what natalie wants for her kiddies, but they'll be VERY

My project seems to be growing in the eyes of the list.  It's not a big
deal at all.  The supervisor of our TAs has them in workshops all this
week and asked me if I would mind talking to them about some of the net
stuff.  I decided yesterday to make a very short handout about stuff like
ftp with a few examples.  Nothing major.

> And for Natalie herself, she's WAY beyond Kehoe.

Thanks for the compliment.  It's Bernard who knows the answers, though.

This is interesting.  The arrow keys won't work in vi on this stupid
computer with the dangling keyboard.  I'm glad I remember h,j,k,l.
Now to log off before I go blind.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
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>   I hope the card says Elton John, because I sure don't remember
>   the birth name.  Science and Nature next, Carolyn.

>   brad

        Oh, I thought it was Dean Long.

        Elton's birth name is Reg Dwight.

neal
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In a previous article, rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) says:

>>My only question about the weekend was, were you gentle with
>>him, huh, rita rita?
>
>	To the best of my <ability>, giggles.

Did you leave the whip in its drawer?  What about the handcuffs?

>>And did he wear his APO t-shirt?
>	
>	Hee hee!
>
One guess - you didn't bother getting dressed all weekend? 

btw - re: postcards, yes please.  Ruth Hanschka, 81 Kenwood Circle, Bloomfield
CT 06002-3435
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
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                  PLAY IT SAFE. USE A COMMA

 Subject: Dutch chemical plant explodes due to typing error

 In the first half of this year the chemical factory Cindu exploded causing
 several deaths and a chaos. It was confirmed yesterday that a simple typing
 error led to this tragic accident. Apparently the computerised chemical
 processing installation was fed with data in which a comma was placed at a
 wrong digit, causing the wrong amount of chemicals to be mixed in the
 installation. This led to an enormous explosion and the closure of the
 factory.
         The Dutch news said that the responsible person has been found and
 he will be charged with negligible conduct causing death.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:33:24 +1100
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: guff
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>Guff the rubbish was what I had in mind. Never heard of guff as fart.
>Presumably related (?). Where is it used?
>
>Nathan Rose

The only expression that I'm aware of in the Aussie dialect that uses that
term is "Don't give me that/any guff (= rubbish)!". 'Fluff' is the nursery
term for fart and 'duff' means pregnant as in "She's duffed up" or "She's
up the duff". Strine is plentiful in the use other '-uff' terms as well.

Carolyn
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:30:57 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Croning Plans
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> Uh...Sorry, Natalie. Put me into an automobile, start the motor, and
> I automagically go to sleep (if I'm not driving, of course).

As I was writing that question while ago, I started to say, "Or were you
asleep when we were on the Natchez Trace?"  Then I kept thinking that I
didn't remember your being asleep.  Maybe I didn't know it -- which means
you didn't hear all that juicy list gossip I told you that day...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     working hard to get points in bwpdom today since life is going to
     get much busier tomorrow, alas...
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: And then the naked ladies came
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:21:46 GMT

In article <1igf6oINN2ns@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
:Turn about's fair play, dude.

It would be if I'd had my turn first, but when was the last time you heard
*me* make a sexist remark (at least on this list...)?

G
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:42:24 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: On Eire and Edinburg(h) (was Re: First major problem in
              London)
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> I have since been meaning to mention on here:  I have always, when
> addressing mail overseas, put the name of whatever country to which I am
> sending the mail in the language of that country when I knew it.

Doesn't it make more sense to put the name of the other country in English
and the rest of the address in the language of the other country, since it
is in this country that that bottom line is read and sent to?  I put U.S.
in the language of the country I'm sending from (e.g., E.U.) and put the
name of countries I'm sending to from here in English.
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:46:24 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: surfacing
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           And Natalie--I would NEVER come between you and Bernard!

I dunno - it's possible, and they might both enjoy it...

G
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Date: 4 Jan 93 12:23:03 GMT
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> So try ordering it over CIS too.  GO MW or GO MZ and see if they've got it.

CBK didn't have it.  Maybe I should try MW and MZ.  I was shocked to see
that our library does in fact have it, but it's non-circulating.  I hate
non-circulating books.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:55:51 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleaning: Xtian
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1993, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>   Don't let abh's comment bother you; I enjoyed your story.  Sometimes

Now that's an impartial assessment, Wiccan.

> I wonder if she and Graham are siblings. :)

This would not be possible...

-abh
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>>"What's the base number in the duodecimal system?"
>
>Going on internal evidence, and a certain wild guess, I'm going to say 2.
>Binary has the lock on zero and one, and 2 sorta makes sense.:-)

As guesses go that was certainly a wild one! 'Duo-' means 2 and 'decimal'
means 10, so a more logical guess would have been 20.... but, in fact, it's
12.... what 2 plus 10 equals. BTW 2 is the base of the binary system; 3 the
ternary system; 4 the quaternary system; 5 the quinary system; etc. For example
in the quinary system there are 5 digits - 0, 1, 2, 3 & 4... and you count
like this up to 10 ... 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 20... Confused?
Hope so! :-)

Carolyn
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In a previous article, Fizzy the Fribble () says:

>From the screen of 'Ruth M. Hanschka'...
>> you were up to while Anne and Adrian the Frizzy Fubble were chowing down on
>
>Excuse me --- just what is a Frizzy Fubble????
>
It's a deliberate misspelling of a handle used by some Brit twit named Adrian
who's too chicken to sign his real name to a Words-l post.

Shall I chuckle like a mad scientist and scuttle off rubbing my hands
together?
Or should I just duck and cover?

Duck and coven?
Susan - got a  spell to ward off angry fribbles?<grin> 
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> >> the man because men always get *sicker* than women. This is one reason
> >
> >She's right.  I think that men do get sicker than women.
>
> Nah. Men can just get away with it better...
>
> judith

She's right, y'know.  We practice on our mothers: we roll our eyes
back in our heads, moan, tremble, get sympathy, someone (generally a
woman) to take care of us, and a day out of school.  In later years,
the eye-rolling, moaning, and trembling are the result of somewhat
more adult forms of sympathy-dispensing...;-)__

Ken
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:34:24 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: London Bridge
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              9 Jan 1993 22:12:53 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

For a corrective to the sentimental pablum of "Leaving on a Jet Plane",
may I suggest The Box Tops and "The Letter":

    Give me a ticket for an aeroplane
    Ain't got time to take a fast train
    Lonely days are gone
    I'm a goin' home
    My baby
    She wrote me a letter.

--brad
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:28:51 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
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Posted on 8 Jan 1993 at 21:15:12 by Michael E. Macmillan
>Ah, it's Avery Brooks you folks have been talking about.  I thought he
>was just short of spectacular as Hawk.  Fit my vision of Parker's
>character much, much better than Robert Urich fit my image of Spenser.

Yeah.  I have trouble reading Parker any more because he changed Hawk
to be more like Avery Brooks--I'm not sure if it was conscious.

>Who was the woman who played Susan in the early episodes?  Not bad at
>all, I thought.

Yes, she was an excellent Susan.

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:22:15 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleaning: Xtian
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:55:51 -0600 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>On Thu, 7 Jan 1993, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
>>   Don't let abh's comment bother you; I enjoyed your story.  Sometimes
>
>Now that's an impartial assessment, Wiccan.

A lot of the Christians on the list enjoyed it, too.

>
>> I wonder if she and Graham are siblings. :)
>
>This would not be possible...

I didn't mean physical siblings; I meant psychological ones.

>
>-abh

Evelyn

P.S.  Take care of your ankles; I know what it's like to break one.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:55:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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> > How *long* is this Wagon's pipe?
>
> Giggles, Giggles...I thought we already went all over this one...
>
> -abh

But that was surely before the Miata, and my memory is gone, anyway.
Do you talk funny now that you've been in MOE?
--ggs
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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              4 Jan 1993 13:36:23 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:36:23 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>on the desk."  I asked which desk it stayed on and discovered that it stays
>on a desk in a little office with somebody's seemingly personal possessions.
>In other words, I think our library bought it for the use of the employees
>and just pretended it was available to others.  They did let me look at it,
>but then it went back to the personal desk where it lives.
>
   Good grief!!!!   They should be drawn and quartered.

Yes, it is appropriate for libraries to purchase 'working tools' for
employees, whether those tools are cataloging manuals, or whatever....
but to have only ONE copy of that book....and to have that ONE copy be
the working copy.....and even if you do that, you either don't put it
in the catalog, or you put in a notation that tells where the hell it is...

cyclops
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:39:17 CST
From:         Bernard Chien Perro <BERNARD@ENGLISH.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Poor Ra
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I think Frank has broken Ra and Isis.  They seem to be frozen.  Thank
goodness for multiple accounts.  This "mainframe" (an aged 286 Epson)
is working fine.  :-)   It does, of course, have to have a bit of
help from another machine across campus to squirt mail out to the
internet, but that's ok.  Maybe those gigantic Sun Sparcservers
should be replaced by neat and clean little PCs.

             o/.\_____/   (bernard@english.msstate.edu)
              \ ______|
               /\   /\
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:46:02 EST
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's Geography Question
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              7 Jan 1993 02:38:09 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

The Azerbaijan Sea lies between the (former) Soviet Union and Iran.

I'll take Art/Literature next, please (if I'm correct).

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:44:08 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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Jenna asks:

> Do we have any words-lers in Philly? Neal maybe? i forget.
> marty? one of those bearded fellas i think. Anyway, i'm going
> to be out at the end of the month for the weekend.

Neal is in Pittsburgh, but Rashmi is at Drexel which is in Philly.
Alec Plotkin works in the metro Philly area I believe.

Joan
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              4 Jan 1993 13:45:14 EST from <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>

And now all the mail is pouring in as if it finally broke the dam.

I still wonder what happened.  Oh, well, c'est la vie.

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:20:08 -0500
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Subject:      Re: guff

Guff the rubbish was what I had in mind. Never heard of guff as fart.
Presumably related (?). Where is it used?

Nathan Rose
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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              12 Jan 93 10:22:28 -0500. <199301121539.AA28082@sunic.sunet.se>

  >Why am I trying to go mano-a-mano to the death with this guy? Is he
  >worth it? Why don't I just serve him something really easy, and let
  >him embarass himself?"

  No, this doesn't fit the context. The alternative is "getting out of
there without being seen". But self-respect requires, etc. Hence my
question.
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>> How shall we build it up again?
>> Dance o'er my lady Lee;
>> How shall we build it up again?
>> With a gay lady.

My mind boggled at the different interpretation that today's generation would
probably place on this verse.

>> One of the books the boys had when they were small had the more recent
 version
>> - the one I used to know. There is reference to it in James Blake's song
>> 'The Sidewalks of New York'..... "East Side, West Side, all around the town,
>> The tots sang 'Ring-a-rosie', 'London Bridge is falling down;'....". It
>> seems that there may be dialectal differences in these nursery rhymes since
>> Blake's 'Ring-a rosie' was known here as 'Ring-around-a rosie' and the
>> 1922 version (from England) is called 'Ring-a-ring-a-roses'.
>>
>We used to sing it as "Ring around the rosy..."  :-)
>ndh

I guess the next step in the process of linguistic change will render it
"Ring-around-the roses, A pocketful of poses..." - I've heard that variation
in recent years from the 'littlies'.

Carolyn
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> >Don't bet on it.  Do the instructions say *how long* one has to wait?
> >doris
>
> Try six years...
> love, judith :-)

It looks like you're probably correct.  May I nap until then?
doris
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Subject:      Re: Words-L Weekly Digest (Holiday edition)

> 12/21/92 - 1/3/93
>
> A not unexpected snappishness creeps onto the List over Yuletide, until,
> on New Year's Eve, stately poems from the keyboards of Ken, Torkel, and
> Natalie set the tone for 1993.  Deep beliefs are explored, in some depth.

STATELY?  You're making us sound like a bunch of old public buildings
or park statues....

Ken
<can I be Jose Marti?>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:17:26 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: second call for words-l cookbook
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> ah HA! the truth will out.  there you go, giggles. what's worse than
> not getting into the undigestable? well, how about having your posts
> go unread, deleted or worse!
>
> jenna

But Jenna, I've been grading 157 Macbeth projects and making out final
exams, which is no excuse except when you consider how terribly
unorganized I've been lately.  However, to *maybe* prove to you that no
kill file is out on you, I'll put off getting back to work right away and
will post *two* recipes.

See ya later,
doris
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Barbie dolls
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ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM writes:
> Ooooooooooo! I LIKE it!  Is this the wrong time to talk about my
> black leather belt with the nails?...:-)

Point ends inward?

--karsten

(If I had a hammer...)
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Date: 8 Jan 1993 05:21:47 GMT
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In a previous article, harwood@TENET.EDU (Nancy Harwood) says:

>
>When I was growing up, I would have thought an attic fan was
>*wonderful*...now, if somebody told me I had to live in Houston with an
>attic fan instead of air conditioning, my response would be both profane
>and hysterical during the whole time I was packing to LEAVE!  Besides,
>an attic fan would mean (shudder!) leaving the windows *open* here in
>allergy city.

I can undedrstand that; I have allergies to the same stuff.  Unfortunately,
I react almost as badly to central air as I do to lint, dust, and pollen.:-(
In fact, the a/c is more ikely to make my head close up completely than
the ordinary allergens are.<sigh>  And people wonder why I hate summer....

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