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From: kaskubar@mayo.edu (Bruce Kaskubar)
Subject: Scheduling problem
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:54:03 GMT

Problem shape...

I'm a medical center.  I have an (out)patient in a clinic that  
needs medical services (like a chest X-ray, a blood draw for  
laboratory tests, a consultation with a physician, and an EKG).  I  
have locations where specified services can be performed.  I have  
staff people certified to provide specified services.  I can  
perform a certain volume of each service per unit time.  Each  
service may interact with other services in relationships such as  
prerequisite, postrequisite, result conflict (i.e., service A's  
performance invalidates service B's result if A is performed during  
specified time period relative to B).  For each patient's set of  
ordered services, I want a computer to build, say, an itinerary  
including location, date, time, and service provider.

Solution?

The solution appears amenable to knowledge-based systems, no?  If  
so, where can I find a body of work that describes algorithms for  
solution to such a problem?

Thanks,

Bruce Kaskubar (kaskubar@mayo.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,general
From: mark@cs.UAlberta.CA (Mark Green)
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Organization: University of Alberta
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:16:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.222608.20598@oz.plymouth.edu> sos@oz.plymouth.edu (Steffan O'Sullivan) writes:
>jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>In article <1if7duINN2ho@gallium.cs.unc.edu> harris@cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes:
>>
>>BZZT!  Urban Legend Alert.  The querty keyboard was _not_ designed
>>to slow typists, it was designed to avoid jamming the typewriter.
>>Typewriters don't jam because the typist is too fast (unless the typist
>>presses one key before releasing another, which good typists didn't
>>do on mechanical typewriters) - they jam when a rapid sequence of keystrokes
>>activates hammers that are physically close together in the machine, wedging
>>them together.  To keep the mechanism as simple as possible, the hammers
>>were in the same sequence as the horizontal sequence of the keys.  The
>>querty keyboard was designed so that common keystroke sequences, _not_
>>commonly used keys, were widely distributed.  
>
>Urban legend or not, it makes more sense than your reply.  LOOK at the
>QWERTY layout: "e" and "r" right next to each other, "e" and "d" right
>next to each other, "e" and "s" right next to each other - these are
>common, VERY common key sequences.  Your answer does not make sense.
>Look at how many "es" "er" "ed" combos are in this post alone. . . 
>
>And, yes, I'm a devoted Dvorak user, and I've read Dvorak's book on the
>psychology of typing.  The major disad is when I'm at a machine that I
>can't load software to reprogram the keys - otherwise, there are no
>disadvantages.
>
>-- 
>  - Steffan O'Sullivan		         sos@oz.plymouth.edu


I hate posting this in general, but here goes.

Yes, it is an urban legend.  The QWERTY keyboard was designed to
minimize jamming by placing common key sequence far apart.  This is
a mechanical distance, not physical distance on the keyboard itself.
If you look at the 'e' 's' and 'd' keys, you will see that 'e' is on
the row above 's' and 'd', so they are mechanically far apart.

About 15 or 20 years ago there were a number of studies done on
keyboard layout (you can look at old issues of Human Factors and
Ergonomics to find them).  The net result of these studies is that
keyboard layout doesn't matter that much, 5-10% difference in typing
speed at the very most.  If you really want to type fast look at
a chording keyboard, or change the shape of the keyboard itself.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: mlc@iberia.cca.cr.rockwell.com ("Mike Cook, x2792, 124-211")
Subject: What we haven't done in 30 years
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:20:08 CST
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I found the following interesting and worth passing on.  Some of
the following has come to pass, but not enough of it.  Recent
developments with highly integrated chips, laptop computers,
operating systems, etc., still have a way to go from this early
vision.

-------------

"Computer technology has been progressing by leaps and bounds over the
last decade, in terms of reliability, size and cost of components,
speed of operation, and ease of assembly.  On the other hand, the
development of techniques for exploiting computers in non-numerical
information processing, and as aids in research and in human problem
solving and decision making, has been relatively lagging. 
Specifically, computer systems (including programming aids,
operational organization, and input, output, and display equipment)
have not yet been developed that are *easily* and *economically*
accessible, and that are truly flexible and responsive to individual
needs, particularly the need for quick, direct response.  There is
substantial evidence that such computer systems can be  developed, and
that they will play a much more effective role in supporting and
extending human cognitive capabilities."

-- Robert M. Fano,
"Proposal for a Research and Development Program on Computer Systems,"
Proposal submitted to ARPA, MIT, Cambridge, Mass., 1963.
(Actually written in late 1962.)
This proposal was the basis for Project MAC.

[From "IEEE Annals of the History of Computing, v 14, n 2, 1992, p 9.]

-------------

Michael Cook
Internet: MLC@IBERIA.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: rb@dasc.nl (Remco Bruijne)
Subject: GIS geographical suppliers wanted
Organization: Data Sciences B.V.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:32:47 GMT

A colleague of mine is working on a GIS market review. For that,
he needs the following information:
  - GIS suppliers
  - Suppliers of vector and raster geographical data covering Europe
  - Suppliers of postal codes and similar data
  - Applications in the field of dispatching, traffic and transportation
  - Alternative systems for vehicle localisation such as GPS

Thanks in advance,

Remco
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Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: Mahesh.Ravji@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Remapping shadow RAM on COMPAQ DESKPRO 286n
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:21:38 GMT

Does anybody know if there is any way of remapping the the 384K
from 640K-->1024K as extended memory starting at 1024K on a
COMPAQ DESKPRO 286N machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: an5284@anon.penet.fi
Subject: YTALK version 2.0
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: comp.misc
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:11:31 GMT

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From: camelsho@gemini.ksu.ksu.edu (   James A Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,ks.misc
Subject: Tape Drive and CD Rom
Date: 10 Jan 1993 21:20:57 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: gemini.ksu.ksu.edu

There is a possibility that I can aquire a tape drive and
CD rom drive.  I'm wondering about the stuff.

TAPE DRIVE:  Irwin Magnetics Model 420  Seriel 0003057
Comes with drive, card, and connection cable.  External
drive.  Price $100.

Other than this, the guy knows nothing about it.  
How many meg is this drive?  Does it need any software to
work from a 286?  Is this a fair price?  Anything else
you can tell me about it?  (such as tape costs)

CD ROM:  Hitatchi CDR- 25005 With card Price $150
                             Without card Price $100
Is this an industry standard drive, or is it a special?
There are 4 of these that were ganged together, so there
is only one control card.

What can you tell me about these drives?  Is the price
fair?  How much do the cd's cost for the drive?  Is it
really worth buying?

These come from a reputable source, but the seller obviously
does not know what he has.  I asked him if the tape drive
was DAT format.  He told me that I could not put an audio
tape in them, because they were for computers and would 
not take cassettes.

If I should seriously consider buying these drives, what
questions should I ask the original source for these?
I know where they originally came from, so I can backtrack
to their original sysad to get the low down.

Please reply through email.

james seymour/camel/camelsho@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

(If this is posted from a different machine, dont worry, its all forwarded.)
From: landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Really better? (Re: DVORAK keyboard?)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:52:41 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: morocco

> : I'm really curious about the contention that the DVORAK keyboard is
> : really faster ...
>
> I remember an article that concluded the advantage of dvorak keyboards
> was greatly overstated.

(The *speed* advantage, that is.)

> Some studies have stated that dvorak has a 2-3
> times advantage based on finger movement.  This article mentioned that
> they all neglected to figure the motion of the finger pressing the key,
> which is the same in either case.  I believe that they concluded that
> dvorak had about a 15% advantage still; not enough for a touch typist to
> change over.

*IF* speed were the only factor.  What I wonder is whether any studies
have been done on Dvorak versus QWERTY keyboards with respect to Carpal
Tunnel Syndrome.  (I would guess that these are much harder/more expensive
studies to carry out.)

More open questions:

 --> I have read that Dvorak's layout is designed to be "better" than
     QWERTY, but is there any evidence that it's optimal?  I.e., now
     that computer time is cheaper than it was in Dvorak's day :-),
     has anyone done exhaustive analysis of similar layouts to find
     one even a bit better than Dvorak's?    [I've used a slightly
     modified Dvorak layout for about 5 years now.]

 --> Have similar wrist damage studies been done on the "altogether
     different" kinds of keyboard designs like the Dutch Velotype
     mentioned in a recent post?

 --> I used to have a photocopy of part of an article from an old
     (mid-70's, I think) issue of IEEE Computer.  The article described a
     very interesting design of an IBM-patented Chord keyboard that had a
     total of 12 switches in it -- 10 of them had keys with dimpled keycaps
     to allow each single finger-press to activate 1, 2, or 4 switches;
     the other two allowed 3 thumb-shifts.  So you could get something
     like 4000 different combinations with one hand.  They claimed that
     one-handed typists on this thing could match the speed of fast
     two-handed typists on "normal" keyboards.

     Does anyone have the exact citation, or a copy of the article
     in question?
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Newsgroups: comp.misc,general
From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:28:05 GMT
Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting
Followup-To: comp.misc

mark@cs.UAlberta.CA (Mark Green) writes:
>I hate posting this in general, but here goes.

Then why did you?  You could at least have set the Followup-To line like I
did.  Please people DON'T CROSSPOST TO GENERAL!

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Newsgroups: comp.misc,general
From: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan)
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Reply-To: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:20:15 GMT

In article <1ihgdgINNhpm@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:
>Just think:  Who would consider designing a typewriter to hinder typists?
>		Maybe you had a bad experience in your typing class, but
>		it would have been financial suicide for any company to
>		produce a keyboard which was inherently slower than the
>		many others which were available at the time.

Another way to think about this is the following:

How long do you think it would take before *someone* learned how
to do 90wpm on a QWERTY keyboard?  Wouldn't the typewriters just
jam again as soon as people got up to speed?  This would probably take at
most a month or so, at which point all those QWERTY keyboards
would again be useless.

-rick

"Random acts of violence just don't do it for me anymore.  Call it 
 maturity.  Bang!  Bang!  Heh, heh." - Cactus Jack, WCW Saturday Night 07/04/92
Rick Duggan | duggan@cc.gatech.edu | CS4804A-C/CS1501 TA - Section C
Office Hours: Tuesday 1:30-3:00 Managment IBM Lab
From: CIR_TLW@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Tristia Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: generic PC SCSI Driver Wanted...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:33:27 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Essentially, what we need is a generic PC SCSI driver, that will allow a PC
SCSI card to talk nice to an external SCSI hard disk (an Apple disk, not
exactly intended for use by a DOS-based PC).

The whole setup is:

-A Zenith 486SX/20E
-A PC SCSI card, purchased from Iomega Corp. to use primarily with a Bernoulli 
        44 transportable drive unit
-An Apple 20SC external hard drive

The driver which came with the unit is specific to a removeable disk drive,
so it's useless for this sort of thing....

Anyone know where something like this is available either via ftp, telnet,
shareware or commercially?  (Preferrably the freeware options, of course!)

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From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Question about Star LC-10C
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:47:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de's message of 10 Jan 93 13:25:33 GMT

In article <46255@unlisys.in-berlin.de> stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Christian Lampl) writes:
| Hi !!!
| I've got a Star LC-10C Line Printer and have problems
| to connect it to my comp.
| Ijust found a 6 pin connection so I think it must
| be a serial connection.
| Unfortunality I have no manual so I don't know
| which pin means what.

I guess you don't have a Commodore 64 then? :-)

The LC-10C was a special version of the LC-10 produced with an interface
to hook it up to the C64 serial bus. I have no idea whether it is really
feasible to connect it to anything else.

--
Simon Oke, 3rd year Computer Science
undergraduate at the University of Essex, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.misc,general
From: kay@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (gary kay)
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Organization: Telecom Research Labs. Melbourne, Vic, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:47:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.214228.8318@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> nrabinow@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Nancy Rabinowitz) writes:
>I can't touch type, so maybe I should learn the Dvorak thing.  But, I
>type really quick.  I know where a lot of stuff is, and therefor I don't
>make many mistakes at all.  I'd bet I type about 30 wpm or so.  The
>problem with typing tutors is you have to look at the screen to see what
>letter to type, and I have to look at the keyboard.
>
But surely that's the idea... Touch typing involves typing without
looking at the key board, but instead following from a hand
written draft etc.  The method of training you describe (Looking at the
screen) is no different.  I guess if your happy about your typing speed
(30wpm) then you should have no cause for discontent, particularly if
you compose as you type.

The only reason that good touch-typists can attain speeds in excess of
100wpm is because they are following along from a draft and as a result
are not looking at the keyboard.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Subject: Re: Really better? (Re: DVORAK keyboard?)
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:31:59 GMT

In article <1ij4v1INNod9@uwm.edu> jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>From article <1993Jan7.160953.3516@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, by jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue):
>> I'm really curious about the contention that the DVORAK keyboard is
>> really faster.  I thought I read somewhere recently that a study was
>>...
>I recall reading an article on this subject many years ago.  Can't recall
>just where -- it _might_ have been Scientific American.  Anyway, I recall
>that the conclusion was that Dvorak layout resulted in _faster_ typing
>...

In addition, I remember glancing at the Guinness book of records a while back
where it mentioned that the fastest typist (200+ wpm) was on a Dvorak
keyboard of a computer (probably a PC or an Apple).
From: bmk@box.ssd.loral.com (Bruce Krawetz)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:00:48 GMT
Organization: Space Systems/Loral, Palo Alto, CA  USA

In article <1993Jan8.011726.1250@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
# In article <C0HsJK.trI@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca> gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca (Giles D Malet) writes:

	(stuff deleted)

# If you had bothered to read other messages, or even knew anything
# about mechanical typewriters, you would know that E and D *are*
# "horizontally" adjacent in the only place it counts: the hammers.  The

	(more stuff deleted)

I dont think hammer placement is the ONLY place it counts.  I find it
difficult to jam the E & D hammers because the same finger is used to
strike those keys (and my finger doesn't move _that_ fast!)
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From: endacott@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.misc,ks.misc
Subject: Re: Tape Drive and CD Rom
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:08:11 CST
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1iqp2pINNjcu@gemini.ksu.ksu.edu>, camelsho@gemini.ksu.ksu.edu (   James A Seymour) writes:
> There is a possibility that I can aquire a tape drive and
> CD rom drive.  I'm wondering about the stuff.
> 
> TAPE DRIVE:  Irwin Magnetics Model 420  Seriel 0003057
> Comes with drive, card, and connection cable.  External
> drive.  Price $100.

I have an Irwin 6151i (internal), about $2000.00 worth of
150/250 Meg tapes, a card, cable, and EZtape software to
make it all work.  Only one problem--its BROKE!  Irwin no
longer exits, they were bought out by Maynard.  Maynard
claims total ignorance about this Irwin machine.  I have
shipped the junk to 2 different 3rd party repair companys
that claim they can "fix anything in seven working days" and
both have returned the the stuff with "no work done"
tickets!!

Apply your $100 to a Colorado Drive or someother
manufacturer's drive that has repair support!!  

Sorry, can't help with the CD-ROM  . . . Phil---

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From: harris@cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,general
Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:30:42 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: gallium.cs.unc.edu

In article <1993Jan8.014749.20432@trl.oz.au> kay@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (gary kay) writes:

>The only reason that good touch-typists can attain speeds in excess of
>100wpm is because they are following along from a draft and as a result
>are not looking at the keyboard.

Not quite;  I often talk with people using the Unix talk utility, and
then I often need a lot of speed, even though I'm not typing from a
draft.  There are other interactive programs where typing speed can be
very desirable.

As far as those who have noted that changing keyboards after you know
one is very difficult, consider this:  I could touch type using qwerty
before I could write in cursive script.  My top speed a decade later
was no less than 60wpm.  But when I changed (I hoped it could help
alleviate some hand problems, which in fact I believe it did--does
anyone know of a study on hand problems and any correlation with key
layout?), the process was astonishingly quick.

For about three days, I kept Key Caps (a desk accesory that will show
you the positions of the keys on the Mac, very handy when learning a
new layout) up.  Then I took it off, and didn't need it again.  It
took about a week of using Dvorak most of the time for me to abandon
qwerty even for speed-intensive tasks.  After that, a month of Dvorak
exclusively and my speed was up to 60wpm, my previous qwerty maximum.
It has slowly increased ever since then.

(See how Dvorak helped Jane Ledbetter improve her marriage and her
career in the next exciting episode of--HOW DVORAK CHANGED MY LIFE!)
:-)

Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
From: se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: fidap
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:10:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

This is a cry for help!
If anyone out there is using the FIDAP package from
Fluid Dynamics International, please would you drop me a line.
We are having problems getting the software to run.

Steve Elliott
-- 
se@uk.ac.lancs.comp
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PHONE: +44 524 65201 ext 3783.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Christian Lampl)
Subject: Question about Star LC-10C
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:25:33 GMT

Hi !!!
I've got a Star LC-10C Line Printer and have problems
to connect it to my comp.
Ijust found a 6 pin connection so I think it must
be a serial connection.
Unfortunality I have no manual so I don't know
which pin means what.

Can anybody help me ?
Please E-Mail me at: stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de

Thanx in advance,
  Christian

P.S. Please excuse my bad English ! =)

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 besser regiert werden, als wir es verdienen."
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Christian Lampl - stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de - aka Ray at the IRC