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From: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: GNR punk album
Date: 12 Nov 1992 07:34:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
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In a previous article, 2760carpente@vms.csd.mu.edu (METALLICA) says:

>Hi...
>Does anybody have a list of all the covers that are going to appear in the new
>GN'R punk album..  
>Thanks
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Hmmmm....

Helpless
The Small Hours
The Wait
Crash Course In Brain Surgery
Last Caress/Green Hell

:-)

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From: davel@coombs.anu.edu.au (Dave LaMaitre)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: Where is everyone?????????
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:21:32 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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iacovou@gurney.cs.umn.edu (Neophytos Iacovou) writes:

>  Sorry about that. I've been listening to Izzy's album. Not bad actually.

	I just got Izzy's new album yesterday. Not bad at all but it did take a full listen to it before it really started to grow on me. Got it with the _Pressure Down_ EP as a double CD set, which made it pretty good value for money.

	The drums at the end of the last track really spun me out the first time I heard it. My only complaint about it was the length of the album...or lack of it. I thought that it might be a bit longer considering the size of the _Illusion_ albums. But that is only a minor thing...point is that it really kicks...

l8r,
Dave

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From: glover@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au (Stuart Glover)
Subject: Re: GnR To Tour Oz in January
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:37:12 GMT

davel@coombs.anu.edu.au (Dave LaMaitre) writes:


>	Just heard for sure on the radio that GnR are definately coming to Australia in January and they are only playing two outdoor shows. One will be held in Sydney and the other in Melbourne. As yet I have not heard the venues for wither of these dates.

Yeah but it sux that there not coming to Queensland!

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From: aa765@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Young)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: Not quite right...
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:52:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Previously, schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu sayed:

>Just a comment on Yesterdays.  I am a vocalist and I have studied
>vocal music for sveral years.  Don't ask why my favorite groups have
>guys who grunt and scream, I don't know why...  But in the concert
>that I saw a couple of months ago, His voice was INCREDIBLE,
>especially considering all the running around.  However, in the chorus
>of Yesterdays, he drags up to this note on one line (I think its
>"_old_ pictures".  It just sounds awful.  Otherwise, it's one of the
>best songs on either UYI.  Anyone else cringe at that note?--

     The vocals on the entire song suck, IMO. Besides
the fact that it's another sappy, candy-ass pop track,
the song just isn't suited to Axl's voice.

     He pulled off 'Don't Cry', but 'Yesterdays' is not
for him. I think it's a conspicuous stain on an other-
wise fantasic album, and I was pretty surprised when I
heard that it was a single. Now that I've thought about
it, though, I guess I should have expected it, the last
original signal they put out that *rocked* was 'You
Could Be Mine', and that was before the album.

     It's a shame that a top-notch rock band like GNR
has resorted to the same cheesy commercialism that I'd
expect from Warrant, Bon Jovi, Poison, Extreme, and all
the other pretty-boy glam rockers. And kick ass songs
like 'Garden Of Eden', 'Breakdown', and 'Locomotive',
to name a few, sit in obscurity.

     'November Rain' sucks my left testicle.
-- 
                                             - C Young

     <Brou hah hah haaahhhh!!!>

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From: lkawamot@zeus.calpoly.edu (Len Kawamoto)
Subject: Re:  Not quite right...
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:27:00 GMT


In article 291, schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu said:
> especially considering all the running around.  However, in the chorus
> of Yesterdays, he drags up to this note on one line (I think its
> "_old_ pictures".  It just sounds awful.  Otherwise, it's one of the 
> best songs on either UYI.  Anyone else cringe at that note?-- 

i dunno if it was the live concert u were at.... maybe he just hit it
out of tune? but in the cd it sounds fine to me... but u got me curious..
so i looked in to it a little more... the chord structure there is :

D               Cadd2               G5
yesterday's got nothin' for me- Old pictures that I'll always see-
F# A  A     A   B A     G   G   D   F# A     A    D    B G    G
+m3           +M2-M2  -M2     +P5 -m6+m3      +P4  -m3 -M3

so as u can c... he is singing the 9th (or 2nd) of the C chord being
played by the guitars... but since he is previously singing passing
tones... in a downward motion.. theres a tendency to continue down-
ward... to a D a P4 below the G... but he takes it up a P4 instead...
which is a non-perferred jump by vocalists to start with... or at 
least thats what i gather from my (instrumental and theoretical)k
experience... and then he goes down a m6 to the F# right after that...
as if THAT was bad enough.. he takes the melody upwards again... a m3
...so there is quite a bit of contrary motion going on there..in un-
favored intervals... and the 'old' is a dissinent note. :)
boy ... all of that from my theory classes...

if ur REALLY interested... try taking the melody downwards... from 
'old'... take it to the D below the previous G... (-P4) and then
try continuing on... it tends to want to do this:
yesterday's got nothin' for me- Old pictures that I'll always see-
F# A  A     A   B A     G   G   D   F# A     A    B    A G    G.
well, at least thats ONE of many possible ways to go... 
but i think the guys wanted to hit more of the notes in the G5 for a 
stronger impact and to shape the phrases similarly to the previous
one... which they tend to do... :)
also, i think they tried to mirror the chordal motion.  the D down
to the C up to the G5... mirrored by the downward melody, with the
upward jump and then the upward melody...

Anyways... i think that u're feeling the strain that axl feels when 
he sings the jump upwards (u, being a fellow vocalist)... from an
instrumentalist and theorist (wanna-be) it sounds fine.  hope people
don't mind the bit of theory i got into... i had fun doing it.. :)

len

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From: fox@cs.mcgill.ca (Colin BRADLEY)
Subject: Re: Izzy's album
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:14:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.072231.491383@zeus.calpoly.edu> lkawamot@zeus.calpoly.edu (Len Kawamoto) writes:
>
>First of all, hi to everyone in the newsgroup.  This is my first post and 
>I'm a fairly new addition to the newsgroup.
> About Izzy's album... what is the name of it? and what recording company
>released it? I haven't heard anyone in my area really mention it before
>and i just heard about it through a couple magazines and through here.
> Also, does anyone know about the GnR rockumentary?? like when is it
>supposed to be released?? etc etc.
> Anyways, thanks in advance for the information!
>
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Izzy's album, called Izzy Stradlin' and the Ju Ju Hounds, is pretty good
.,
I heard the Guns N' Roses movie is comin' out in about a year.......

Colin
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From: 880840m@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL ALEXANDER MCKAY)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr,alt.cascade,alt.non.sequitur,cso.freshmen
Subject: Re: Where is everyone?????????
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:22:54 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <Bx9CJ2.G17@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> miles@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Derick) writes:
>From: miles@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Derick)
>Subject: Re: Where is everyone?????????
>Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:23:24 GMT
>In article <1992Nov4.145941.1775@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>>In article <Bx5tGJ.JA9@news.udel.edu> zeus@chopin.udel.edu (Michael Scott Price) writes:
>>>Where is everybody???? I haven't seen any new messages posted here in about a
>>>week-n-a-half. Doesn't anyone read it anymore??
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello????
>>
>>Hello!  How are you?
>Jello!  I'd rather spew?  
Fellow! I'll have a few.
From: 2760carpente@vms.csd.mu.edu (METALLICA)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: GNR punk album
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:05:08 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2760carpente@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Hi...
Does anybody have a list of all the covers that are going to appear in the new
GN'R punk album..  
Thanks
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr,alt.rock-n-roll
From: Siddharth.Soni@launchpad.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Subject: izzy stadlin album 
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:19:18 GMT

if someone can tape this album for me, reply to
ssoni@csnext.colgate.edu

thanks, 

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From: aa765@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Young)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: Not quite right...
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:54:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Previously, juggle@athena.mit.edu (???) sayed:

>In article <1dp7eiINNs49@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
>aa765@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Young) writes:

>>     It's a shame that a top-notch rock band like GNR
>>has resorted to the same cheesy commercialism that I'd
>>expect from Warrant, Bon Jovi, Poison, Extreme, and all
>>the other pretty-boy glam rockers. And kick ass songs
>>like 'Garden Of Eden', 'Breakdown', and 'Locomotive',
>>to name a few, sit in obscurity.

>Top notch???
>
>        Who ever said GnR was any different than Warrant or all the
>rest?  Have you taken a look at Axl lately?  He changes his clothes
>more often during ONE SONG than all the rest of those groups do in a
>week.

     Uh, excuse me, dickweed, but that's my whole fucking
point. "Lately", the Gunners HAVE lowered themselves to
the level of those other groups- the ludicrous obsession
Axl has with costume changes is a good example of this.

     I remember a time, not so long ago, when all they were
interested in was coming out and playing a good, hard set,
with five men and no ridiculous, showy 'entourage'.

     I saw them play in June '91- on the first leg of their
tour- WITH Izzy- and again this past July, with Metallica.
Frankly, the second show SUCKED in comparison with the first,
and especially after Metallica played their asses off for a
couple hours (and I've never been a Metallica fan).

     I think they've really regressed, musically and stylis-
tically since Izzy left, and I don't think the next original
album (whatever decade THAT comes out) will be anything close
to Appetite or the Illusions.

     And that sucks.
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From: fox@cs.mcgill.ca (Colin BRADLEY)
Subject: Re: Where is Izzy? : )
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:52:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.130936.28308@ms.uky.edu> biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall) writes:
>Robert.Presland@f101.n101.z101.fidonet.org (Robert Presland) writes:
>
>> > From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)
>
>> > No, actually I was just asking myself why people
>> > listen to G'n'P at all.
>
>>Or why those who don't like GNR read this group...
>
> Or why their fans can't do any better than link their favorite band's group to
>something else, instead of creating a while new one.
>
>Now don't you think that I woluld drop this group if I could? I mean, seeing 
>G'n'P every 3 posts really does turn my stomach. But no, I have to hang around
>to get information on the real bands out there. So I'll just have to put up
>with your insecurities when I flame your favorite pansy band, and you'll just
>have to put up with me.
>
>biswick.

Fuck You. You, ma'am, are an asshole. Again, FUCK YOU. Go the fuck away...

Pissed off, Colin.
From: aa765@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Young)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: Axl RIP Interview (2 of 3)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Previously, CAS171@psuvm.psu.edu sayed:

>Hello, my girlfriend and I are really huge GnR fans and we think that Axl
>is some sort of Icon.  So, when is part 3 of the rip interview coming out?
>Hopefully soon!  Later.(:

     "Don't hail me and don't idolize the ink,
     Or I've failed in my intentions,
     Can you find the missing link?"

     <Tongue in cheek>
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:44:41 EST
From: <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Axl is Jim!!!!!!!!

In a recent, shocking press conference with reporters from Weekly World News,
The National Inquieror, and Star magaizines, William Bailey, aka William Rose,
aka W. Axl Rose, revealed that he is actually the reincarnated soul of famous
Door vocalist Jim Morrison!  The singer/songwriter from Indiana told reporters
that, just as the young James became posessed by an Indian Chief's soul as a
young boy, he, too had become posessed by the soul of the Chief as a child, as
passed onto him by the dying Jim Morrison.  In fact, Axl claims that not only
did he inherit the Chief's soul, but Jim Morrison's as well!  Speculators had
already observed certain traits in this modern-day Morrison, such as aberrant,
erratic behavior, mood swings, frequent substance abuse, inability to perform
consistantly live, etc., but these things have been passed off as just
coincidences.  Passed off, that is, until now!

"Well, didn't you fuckin' people notice how alike we are?" said Rose, adding
that one can barley distinguish between the low barritone voice of Axl on the
Guns N' Roses song "It's So Easy" and the same low voice on the Doors' "L.A.
Woman".  "The only difference is that the other guy's voice didn't screech as
well as mine.  But even there you can hear the simularities, man!"

Slash, Guns N' Roses' lead guitarist, says he has always known about Axl's true
identity.  "Fuck, yeah, I knew.  I never thought he'd tell the public, though.
Now he's not only gonna have the GNR fans to deal with, but all those freaks
who actually visit Morrison's grave every Christmas!"

Former band members Jeff Isabelle (aka Izzy Stradlin') and Steven Adler feel
the public is being duped.  As Stradlin' stated, "Man, it's just another god-
damned publicity stunt of his!  Hell, he can go on and on about why I left the
band, but what that little prick won't admit is that I got out 'cause he
started on this Morrison shit about two years ago and that it freaked me out!
I mean, the little bastard starts on this acid trip, right?  Then, he starts
gettin' real serious and starts doing what he claims were Indian chants that he
knew from many moons ago.  I say, 'Fuck you, man.  Knock it off or I'm gonna
quit the band!'  Axl just lays there, lookin' at the celing with a stupid look
on his face, like he was just hit by a train or something.  Just ask Steven!
He tried tellin' him the same thing a few years back, and I guess it was just
too much for him, too.  I remember their last argument, where Popcorn says to
Axl, 'Hey, asshole!  I hated the Doors!!!!!!' and that was all she wrote."

Other band members refused to comment, although there are now speculations that
Slash may really be the passed on soul of god-status guitarist Jimi Hendrix.
These are, of course, only speculations.

Axl is currently writing an autobiography entitled "Me and my Buddy Jim", due
next spring, although publishing right disputes may keep the release date as
far back as September '93.
From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Guns N' Roses bootleg
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:20:24 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


Since there doesn't seem to be much traffic here....and there's all
this "hello is anyone there" stuff going on....I thought I'd post
about a bootleg cd set I just got.

It's called `Live ... And Let Die' and is put out by The Swingin' 
Pig Records.  It is a 2cd set and comes in a nice book package holding
the two cd's with a skull holding a rose on the front.  It was recorded
live during the 1991 US-tour.

The first cd contains:

     Right Next Door To Hell
     Mr. Brownstone
     Bad Obsession
     Dust N' Bones
     Double Talkin' Jive
     Patience
     Civil War
     14 Years
     Live And Let Die
     It's So Easy

The second cd:

     Guitar/Drums Solo
     Godfather
     Rocket Queen
     November Rain
     Knockin' On Heaven's Door
     Perfect Crime
     Estranged
     Bad Time / Sweet Child O'Mine
     Welcome To The Jungle
     Paradise City

I've listened to the first cd so far and I'm very impressed.  The sound
quality is excellent and I would love to know how it was recorded, it
doesn't sound like it was done from the audience.  The drums are a bit
harsh during the first couple of songs, but they seem to ease back after
that.  I love Axl's interaction with the crowd.  Now if I only I could
see them live for real.

Ian
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From: cstadbt@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C A Elliott)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: GN'R tour dates
Date: 10 Nov 1992 13:32:18 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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Okay, so GN'R are playing Australia. Unfortunately, its a bit far away
for me. Does anyone know if this is the beginning of another world tour,
or is it just a series of one off shows.

If it is a tour, are they playing the UK, and what are the dates.

Cheers,

Charles

cstadbt@csv.warwick.ac.uk
From: davel@coombs.anu.edu.au (Dave LaMaitre)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: GnR To Tour Oz in January
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:01:05 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:

>In Melbourne they are playing outdoors at the Calder Park
>Thunderdome I think. Should be huge.

>Jed

Yeah that is what I heard tonight...I think they play on the 1st Febuary in Melbourne and the 30th January in Sydney. They are playing at Eastern Creek Raceway when in Sydney. It won't just be huge though...it will be totally awesome!!!

Dave
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)
Subject: Re: Where is Izzy? :)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:09:35 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Robert.Presland@f101.n101.z101.fidonet.org (Robert Presland) writes:

> > From: biswick@ms.uky.edu (Chad Hall)

> > No, actually I was just asking myself why people
> > listen to G'n'P at all.

>Or why those who don't like GNR read this group...

 Or why their fans can't do any better than link their favorite band's group to
something else, instead of creating a while new one.

Now don't you think that I woluld drop this group if I could? I mean, seeing 
G'n'P every 3 posts really does turn my stomach. But no, I have to hang around
to get information on the real bands out there. So I'll just have to put up
with your insecurities when I flame your favorite pansy band, and you'll just
have to put up with me.

biswick.