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From: Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (nazedgi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Mac OS on PC
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:26:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Public Macs, Yale University

Microsoft has declared the war on Macs from the moment they released
Windows. Apple sued to no avail and Windows sales are skyrocketing. Now
they have released Windows for workgroups and Video for windows (A
quicktime competitor) Why doesn't Apple port the OS to the PC world?  I
understand that it may hurt some of their hardware sales, but what would
hurt more, the MAC OS running on a PC or Windows machines? Apple has always
been touted as an excellent software company. Show it then! Stick it to
Microsoft the way they have been doing it to the Mac; make Bill Gates sleep
restless at night. I don't know how feasible it would be to port the OS,
especially since it would have to be compatible with DOS and Windows to be
competitive, but if it can be done I would like to see it. 

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From: JohnM._Stafford@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7 Screws Up True Type ? (Need Help)
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:47:02 GMT
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.

Check these possibilities:
Did the you upgrade the Stylewriter driver? Do you have two Stylewriter
drivers (in in your System folder, another in the extensions folder)? Do you
have version D of Word 4 (if not then upgrade)?
Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:15391 comp.sys.mac.hardware:24631 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:3426
From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: PowePC Chip emulation, Why 68020??
Date: 20 Dec 92 07:30:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec20.073048.12250
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95

zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:
>cconstantine@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>
>>Does anyone out there know why Apple chose to emulate a M68020 for its' PowerPC
>>chip for software compatability instead of at lease a 68030 which can do
>>virtula Memory and was the most stable chip (as far as software compatability
>>went) of the bunch????
>
>Prob. because a 68020 can do virtual with a 68851 chip, which will
>prob. also be emulated. as will the coprossor. Plus the mac's memory
>will have to go threw the rs6000 memory manger.

There's no need to emulate virtual memory.  Instead, you make the emulated
processor think that its address space is full of physical memory.  The
operating system on which the emulator runs is the only place you need
virtual memory -- the operating system running on the emulator does not
need to deal with it.

The only reason you would want to emulate an MMU for the emulated CPU
would be if some operating system you wanted to run on the emulated
CPU checks for an MMU and refuses to run if there is none (A/UX?)

--Tim Smith
From: h8925528@d26.wu-wien.ac.at (Michael Fritscher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Macintalk
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:25:35 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: d26.wu-wien.ac.at

I tried a program which can read out what you've typed into your Mac, but it doesn't work because it requires a driver called "Macintalk". I'd be happy if someone knew if "Macintalk" works with System 7 and wether it is available as shareware or freeware or how I can get it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: PowePC Chip emulation, Why 68020??
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:49:57 GMT


BTW, has the instruction set for the PowerPC been released yet?  If so,
where can I get a copy?

Many thanks,
Edgar
-- 
Edgar Matias
Input Research Group
University of Toronto
--
I speak for no one...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu (Dongseok Choi)
Subject: What is different WorldScript I and II?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:08:53 GMT

Hello, netters?
 According to MacWeek(12/14/92, p60),
 there are WorldScript I and II.
 Could you explain what's different?

Thank you in advance,

Choi
choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu
From: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: HELP: IIsi with SLOW hard drive
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:20:46 GMT
Reply-To: ChazL@county.lmt.mn.org (Chaz Larson)
Organization: LaserMaster Corporation

In article <1992Dec5.175811.6881@sol.UVic.CA>, pdemers@sol.UVic.CA (Patrick 
Demers) writes:
> 	The stock 80 Meg hard disk on my IIsi has gone down in performance 
> since I bought my machine 13 months ago.  It now performs painfully slowly 
> (index of 0.57 according to Speedometer 3.1).  I recently got a disk 
> defragmenter (DiskExpress II), but that didn't seem to do anything 
> (Speedometer still at 0.57).

Instead of simply defragmenting the HD, try optimizing it with something like 
Norton Speed Disk.

Also, if you boot with the shift key down [to disable INITs] and run 
Speedometer, do the numbers change for the better?

chaz


..must think...bubble pipe will relax me and I think...
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7 on older SE & SE/30 & Classic??
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:34:24 GMT
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.

Well, I'm using a Mac SE 4/20 and System 7.1. Works fine for me...

In general, System 7 should work on any Mac from the Plus on up. Its
performance will vary from machine to machine, and Macs that do not have a
68030 (or 68020/PMMU) will be unable to access such features as virtual
memory. Some Macs have ROMs that are "32-bit dirty"; I don't know the
technical explanation, but these machines cannot access 32-bit addressing
without help (such as Mode32). However, you only need to worry about
32-bit addressing if you are dealing with more than 8MB of RAM (something
an unmodified SE, Classic, or Plus doesn't have to worry about.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: pw4963@sarah.albany.edu (Peter G. White)
Subject: Ram disk does not work on pb100
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:25:01 GMT

I just received my powerbook 100 and cannot seem to activate the ram disk.
I have a 2/20 and the memory control panel doesnt let me activate the ram
disk.  It is shown but it is not selectable.  What is my problem?

-Peter

_______________________________________________________________________________
Peter White                                Internet:pw4963@uacsc1.albany.edu
State Univ. of New York at Albany          Bitnet:pw4963@albnyvms
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: errera@ese.ogi.edu (Claude Errera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Aliases under System 6?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:11:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47108
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

In article <1992Dec11.174300.7469@cis.ohio-state.edu> fullerto@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.150012.21082@midway.uchicago.edu> bmor@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>Sorry to ask if this has already been covered, but... Is there any way
>>(ie third party software) to get aliases under System 6?
>
>	I know of no way to do it so that it is like system 7s aliases, but
>you can use the Now Utilities SuperBoomerang for essentially the same thing.
>I have since gone to system 7, and still prefer that over aliases.
>

You might want to check out a program at sumex, maybe in the /util
directory, called alias-101.hqx. It is a small, free program that
allows you to create aliases in system 6. The creation process is
not quite as simple as it is for sys7, but I used it for a while
before upgrading, and found it to be useful enough to warrant
the extra work. (It's actually not that much work.) Didn't notice
any major bugs in the three or four months that I used it.

Hope this helps,


--
Claude
errera@ese.ogi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Subject: Re: What is folder ___Move&Rename?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.000735.2671@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales) writes...
>	I just bought a Perfoma 400 for my sister for Christmas
>	and I noticed an invisible folder called _ _ _ _Move&Rename
>	where (_) is printed as an unfilled box.  I then connected
>	this machine to my own via LocalTalk and this fold appeared on
>	*my* disk as well.  The Performa is running 7.0.1P.  Anyone
>	know what this is and if it is safe to trash it?

I think this is produced by the system (at a guess, containing info on files 
which have been moved or deleted during that session). If you delete it, a new
version will probably appear soon. It's on my Mac, too.

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
From: zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System "not for all Macs" (Was Re: Kanji 6.0.7.1)
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:05:35 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: UB

In a previous message, werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) says:

> zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin) writes:
>|
>|| I installed 6.0.7 on a Powerbook 100....  Worked fine 
>|
>> That makes sense, and yet my friend tried to use 6.0.7 on a PB 100
>> and it wouldn't even boot successfully; there was a system crash.
>> I wonder if he had defective disks...or did Apple ever revise the
>> PB 100 ROMs?
>
>        maybe it was a system which was created "not for all Macs" ?!?

You take what Apple says at face value, Werner?  You have my sympathy.

Simple incompatibility was the first thing I thought about, but when my
friend couldn't use 6.0.7 on a PB 100 while others on the net have reported
success, I thought it logical to ask why.

BTW, I'd love to see a system from Apple which *is* "for all Macs".
(At least all Macs from the Plus on up; I'm not interested in getting
a 128K or Fat Mac to run 7.x. :-)

Now the Apple Customer "Assistance" (not!) Center reps are saying
that System 7.1 is not recommended for the SE/30, II, IIx, or IIcx
"because MODE32 doesn't work with System 7.1 and there's no way for
these machines to run in 32-bit mode otherwise."

Now that Apple's charging us for the System software, you'd think
they'd have enough money to buy a clue.

 -- Dave
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: WoldScript 1 Extension, Does it live?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:23:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:

>It seems it never occured to Apple that people outside a specific country
>could be interested in the script system of that country. That's why the
>japanese script is only available in Japan etc.

>There are signs that Apple is going to change this policy, just give them
>time. Apple wanted to release system 7.1 when it was available, and at least
>I am grateful they didn't wait until all script systems was ready before they
>released system 7.1.

Best reasoning here I have is that they have problems with how to market
the products.  To do it properly, you have to create english documentation
for each language module for sale in english speaking countries.  Then you
have to create Japanese documenation for all Language modules for sale in
Japanese speaking countries, etc, etc.  I have been told by an Apple Rep
that Kanji and French should be available early in the new year as
Worldscript modules unlike Kanjitalk 7 which is apparently a localised
version of 7.X and is not in fact a proper worldscript 7.1 system.

Rumours, lies and speculation.  Keeps the computer world alive!

Craig
--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au Dvorak Keyboards RULE!  "Messes are only acceptable
if users make them.  Applications aren't allowed this freedom" I.M.VI 2-4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: Kris_A._Kauper@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:54:03 EST
Subject: Re: FPU emulation

I use a shareware CDEV on my IIsi called 'SoftwareFPU'. It works great.
-Kris
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From: miracle@sctc.com (Barry Miracle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: VGA Monitor on Q700 is greenish
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:47:25 GMT
Organization: SCTC

I have hooked a Commodore 1950B VGA compatible monitor using a cable
adaptor I bought from a company in the back of Mac Week.  When I hook
it up to the monitor the screen has kind of a greenish tint to it.  
Does anyone knoe  a cure for this problem?

Barry Miracle
miracle@sctc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok)
Subject: Re: When on GX?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:47:06 GMT

QuickDraw GX will most likely be released at the next Developers Conference
in March or April...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: Repairing Harddisk 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:22:43 GMT

In <1992Dec17.034232.17905@nuscc.nus.sg> phygansl@nuscc.nus.sg (Seum-Lim GAN) 
writes:


>Help !
>My harddisk won't start up and when I used MacTools' Rescue and try to see
>what's wrong, it says that the File Header Block of the Extend File is
>damaged and asks me to recover all the files to another volume ! I can't
>imagine recovering over 70 MBytes of apps and data to HD diskettes !     

>Is there any software at all that I can use to repair it ?

>HELP !


Try Disk First Aid. (on the Disk Tools disk of the system distribution disks) 
Despite being free and simple to the user, it actually can fix quite a bit, 
including some troubles that the commercial programs like Rescue can't. If DFA
fails, try Norton Disk Doctor. You might also try the equivalent to Rescue from
the new version of MacTools. However, to be totally honest, I have to warn you
that if Rescue and DFA fail on it, in all likelihood no program will fix it. 
Unfortunately, no single repair program is 'the best' but instead they seem to
all overlap in abilities to repair. In the end you will probably need to do a 
backup anyway. If you can still use the disk, you can probably get better speed
on a backup thru a real backup program than by letting rescue recover files, 
and you will probably not lose any files that aren't already doomed. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hatch@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steven Hatch)
Subject: Re: TimesTwo compression util
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: The Turnaround Team, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:18:47 GMT

In article <4385@cvbnetPrime.COM>, fdeming@cvbnet@prime.com (Frank Deming
{x6088}) wrote:
> 
> In article <tal691.723478612@huxley>, tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
> |> 2) Given the preceding factoid, the claim that it is "System 7 Compatible"
> |>    is something of a joke. If TimesTwo comes on a System 6 diskette and
> |>    will only work off the original, it can scarcely be System 7 compatible.
> 
> I acquired a TimesTwo copy on a System 6 diskette, installed it, and have
> been running on my System 7 HD's without trouble.
> 
We've had one problem with it...With System 7.1 + QT 1.5.
TimesTwo corrupted a set of MacroMind Director 3.1 movies...what a
nightmare...

Now, I only have TimesTwo installed on Syquests...And I'm keeping my
fingers crossed! :-)

--Steve H.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Modern vs. Ancient Greek (Was: Typing Greek)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:59:33 GMT

janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto) writes:

>Get a copy of the greek system software. There you will find a font named
>GreekTimes which has all the accents in modern greek.

Someone who responded by e-mail to this posting mentioned that
classical (ancient) Greek (which is what I am working on) may have
different accent and breathing marks than modern Greek. Can anyone
tell me:

(a) Is it true that modern Greek is substantially different in terms
of typography than classical Greek?

(b) Will the Greek system software (keyboard, script, and fonts)
suffice to type things in classical Greek?

Thanks to everyone who helped me with other suggestions. I am using
GreekKeys for now, since it was readily available, but if the Greek
system software will work, it should be a little more seamless than
GreekKeys.

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: What is different WorldScript I and II?
From: wgentry@netlink.cts.com (William Gentry)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 16:48:16 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu (Dongseok Choi) writes:

> Hello, netters?
>  According to MacWeek(12/14/92, p60),
>  there are WorldScript I and II.
>  Could you explain what's different?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Choi
> choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu
> 

WorldScript one handles one-byte scripts including Hebrew, Thai, Arabic, 
Farsi, and the like. WorldScript II is necessary for two-byte scripts 
such as Korean, Japanese, and Chinese. I'm that WorldScript II rolls in 
the WorldScript I capabilities but I'm not sure on this point.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: 32megs on a IIFX 32bit addressing?
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:58:56 GMT

wnkunzelm@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Jeff Kunzelman) writes:
: 
: I just installed a 32meg upgrade into a Mac IIfx. Total RAM is 36megs. When
: I 
: turn on 32 bit addressing certain programs crash when launched. Without
: 32bit addressing the system suckes up 32megs. Anybody know a fix to solve
: this problem?
: 

Unfortunately, the fix is to replace the programs that are not 32 bit clean
with upgrades or new programs.  A call to the support line for many programs
will result in ordering instructions or at least rev level info.  If there
is a program that you've got to run that is not upgradeable, you will just
have to reboot in 24bit mode when you want to run it.

Good Luck,

Greg.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Larry Slack <las1@Cornell.EDU>
Subject: Question - Pers LW LS v7.1
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A753466364012A92@larry-slack.fldc.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08: 22:59 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: las1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:19:52 GMT

Is there any difference between the new Personal Laserwriter LS driver
(v7.1) and the old (v7.0) ?   The "Prep" file seem to be exactly the same
(v1.0, exact same number of bytes).

I tried it under system 7.0.1 with tune-up 1.1.1, and didn't notice a big
difference.

Comments?  Thanks.

Larry Slack
From: bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System "not for all Macs" (Was Re: Kanji 6.0.7.1)
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:33:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin) writes:
|Simple incompatibility was the first thing I thought about, but when my
|friend couldn't use 6.0.7 on a PB 100 while others on the net have reported
|success, I thought it logical to ask why.

|BTW, I'd love to see a system from Apple which *is* "for all Macs".
|(At least all Macs from the Plus on up; I'm not interested in getting
|a 128K or Fat Mac to run 7.x. :-)

If one pushes the "Customize" button on the installer main screen, one
will be given the option of installing a choice of "minimal systems"
for certain Mac models, some of which might not contain necessary
resources to correctly boot other Mac models.

These installation settings are provided as a courtesy to users who
wish to install a small system that will run their machine.
(Naturally, there are ways to further reduce system size, such as the
utility program recently discussed here.)

The point is this: If I select a minimal system for a Mac SE/30, and
then copy it onto a Powerbook 100, it probably will not boot the
machine. (Actually, I have no idea if it works. I don't have a
Powerbook 100 or an SE/30.)

That's what Werner meant.

As for your question of which system runs on all Macs, the answer is
System 7.1, which runs on all Mac Plus or newer machines that have a
hard drive and 2 MB of memory. Of course, if you want to run PROGRAMS
at the same time, you need more memory than that. Of course, knowing
the fanatics here, 64 MB is probably insufficient for some of them,
some of the time.

bill coderre
MPW punishes me for "only" having 20 MB. Sheesh!
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus software
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:50:26 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec13.231951.76711@fourd.com>, Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com writes:
> From the press release symantec sent me as a registered user, I gathered there
> were only two major upgrades:
> 1) redesigned colorful 3d interface - pretty but useless
> 2) can optionally virus scan through compressed files - both .sit and .cpt
> 
> I cant remember anything else the release offered, and for this they wanted
> $30 to upgrade a $99 program!


    I'm not a user (registered or otherwise) of SAM and they offered me a copy 
for $29.  (That's still too much money when Disinfectant and Gatekeeper are 
free.)  If I were a registered user I think I'd be a little upset.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07103
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system