From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Clayton's inability to answer questions: biological or learned?
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:21:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.



# For every
# disgusting thing that a gay person does, there are a 5 heteros doing
# something equally disgusting.

/That's why straight Americans who don't do IV drugs are dying of AIDS
/proportionate to their numbers in the population. :-)


So you think that AIDS transmission is indicative of disgusting behavior?

I hate to break the news to you, Clayton, but disgusting activity is
not always the same as sexually risky activity.  If you don't believe
that, check out the HIV transmission rates between lesbian couples--
VERY, very low.  Lower than the general population, in fact.  

However,by your standard, since they are involved in "disgusting" activity, 
it must also be AIDS-risky.  Since that isn't the case, what is your
explanation?  Female homosexuality is OK, but male homosexuality is
bad?

What a moron.



# (Open homosexuals are generally much more open,
# honest people than the "normal" heterosexuals.)

/Yeah, you see it all the time in the gay parades and soc.motss. :-)

Actually, you see it with people like Lt. Tracy Thorne, the Naval
aviator who is being discharged for being gay.  You see it with 
people like Christopher Reeves, the actor.

Direct question; respond if you have the guts:  why do you persist,
in spite of being otherwise told (and illustrated, demonstrated, etc.) 
multiple times, that soc.motss is the perfect cross-section of the 
gay world?

I will watch for an answer; if you don't give one, I will simply
continue to remind you that you are negligent in giving response.



# #There's more to life than 18 hours a day satisfying your
# #genitals.
# 
# There's a LOT more to life than spending your life trying to incite
# hatred against a group of people who want nothing but to be allowed to
# live their private lives in private.
# 

/ You really are dense, aren't you?  It's because homosexuals insist
/ on using the government to tell consenting adults what to do in
/ private that so many people are pissed.  

Cite 3 examples of the govt. telling consenting adults how to behave
towards gays in private.  NOTE:  employment, housing, education, and
the like are not examples of "private".



/ When homosexuals stop trying
/ to force themselves onto straight people in private, we can talk
/ about this.  In the meantime, homosexuals need to get the government
/ out of straight people's lives.

So in other words, you want the legally protected right to be a bigot.
Assumedly, you would also want the right to be able to refuse to rent to
a black family, or a Jewish family.  Or hire a woman.  Admit or deny
this.


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You know, Clayton, I have watched exchanges between you and other people
for almost a month before I responded.  You exhibit two telltale
characteristics:

1.  You make a wild, inflammatory statement and then go into hiding,
    presumably to watch the fur fly and chuckle to yourself at the
    storm you've brewed up;

2.  You duck and dodge points of fact presented to you, and never actually 
    address them (for lack of data or courage, or both).  Then you try to
    escape under cover of a spray of bullshit cliches

I will be watching for this to happen here as well.



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