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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The evils of Pearl Jam WAS Re: Temple of the Dog
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:33:58 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner) writes:

> genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko) writes:
> > > I don't understand or care what commercial means or doesn't mean. 
> > > What I care about is the quality of the music. Nirvana plays good 
> > > music that is hooky and poppy and has gained them commercial 
> > > success. So what? Good for them.
> > 
> > Nirvana is a commercial band, not a talented band. They are 
> > surviving off  commercial success. Phew! How long do you think this 
> > success will last?
> 
> golly, wally, how the fuck -else- are they supposed to survive than
> commercial success? the extreme admiration of about 40 fans doesn't
> put food off the table or pay rent.
> 
> first you say they're bad 'cause they're a commercial success & then
> imply that they're bad because that success won't last forever!
> make up your damn mind.
> 
> jason
> 
> --
>      "Why was I cursed with a woman like you? You're my misery! 
>       A knife in my heart! Come on, we can discuss this later. 
>       Let's just get married." - Adam, from the best episode of
>                                  Northern Exposure
> `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`

okay, i say they just plain suck because they are not talented. their 
commercial success is based upon being trendy. you cant be trendy 
forever. they suck suck suck.

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   28-Sep-92 at 1:34p
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From: gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N)
Subject: Erasure...
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:44:16 GMT


I heard that Erasure is playing in NYC (Beacon Center?)...
But I couldn't get any dates...

Anyone knows the dates?
Or dates in the New England area for that matter?


Thanks a million,
Germain.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: nina hagen???
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:46:48 GMT

rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:

>I put her in the same pigeonhole, historically, with early women punk
>rockers like Marianne Faithful and Lizzie Mercier Desclough (anyone
>remember her?  yecch), 

Descloux?  But of course!  Though LMD wasn't an actual individual,
merely a transitional stage between Faithful-Lovich-Hagen and the
final nadir: Christina.

"Fire" and "Tumor" have replaced "Bohor I" as my chosen methods of
compelling straggling party guests to depart.

>Nena, by the way, was not as bad as some people say, in my opinion.
>Excellent if rather fluffy pop, if that's not a contradiction in terms
>to you.

Yeah, if you listen to POP CRAP, that is.

-- Clay
			"Words butter no parsnips."
				-- C.G. Jung
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cjmarshl@iastate.edu (Christopher J Marshall)
Subject: Re: lallapoluza II
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:33:59 GMT

This show really kicked ass.  Anyone who likes alternative music at all must   see this show.  PJ and the Chili peppers were great, but Ministry got the whole place moshing!!  Where else can you go beat the shit out of 35,000 people for 10 hours and have them all enjoy it?!!!
From: chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: URGE OVER KILL??????????
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:08:53 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

mole@cellar.org (Jim Hostetter) writes:

>laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:

>> In 1988 they did a FANTASTIC cover of Glenn Campbell's (that's right, the
>> pop/country singer from the early 70's who did "Rhinestone Cowboy")
>> "Lineman."  You know, the one that goes "I am a lineman for the county . . ."

>Oof.  Ack.  I envy you.  I tried to order that from Touch and Go and they
>sent me a nice, polite note telling me it's out of print.

The Urgesters - a truly awesome band.  I want to get one of the "U.R.G.E."
turtlenecks that they wear, so I can ski in it.

The "Americruiser/Jesus Urge Superstar" CD has the Lineman song on it.  It
also has such other greats as "God Flintstone" and "Very Sad Trousers".
I urge you to pick it up.
From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Happy Flowers recommendations?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 22:42:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) says:

>In article <26359@castle.ed.ac.uk> eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt) writes:
>>
>>   Would any of you like to recommend material by those much 
>>missed funsters Mr. Anus and Mr. Horribly Charred Infant, 
>>a.k.a. The Happy Flowers?  I should have bought some of their 
>>stuff years ago, when I had the money, because now I can't 
>>remember which of their records I enjoyed best.  If I'm going 
>>to buy one record, which one would y'all suggest?
>
>Homestead just re-issued all their Homestead 7"s on one CD (with about
>20 or so extra tracks, including covers of the Beatles, Echo & the 
>Bunnymen, DRI, and My Dad Is Dead). A very good comprehensive history!

Ahhh... I've been waiting for someone to ask about my hometown boys Anus
and Infant... I second Josh's recommendation to pick up the new _Flowers On
45_ compilation. You get all their Homestead 7"s (including their Peel
session--yes they did a Peel session) plus various other bands they were in
-- including the classic "Fish (I Like)" by Lowest Common Denominator
(memo: _never_ listen to anything anyone does in a radio production room at
2.00 AM. :)

You can't really go wrong with any of the Flowers' records, though. Happy
grinding.

--Mark Cornick, devoted Flowers fan and Charlottes-hell native :)
-- 
Mark Cornick <cc647@cleveland.freenet.edu>
[Co-moderator of the indie-list! mail for info]
You give us 22 minutes, we'll give you the world...
 -- Girls Against Boys
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: RE*Bad Religion info
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:57:28 GMT
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: tphailey@c00015-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu


	The other bands on "No Control At The Country Club" are Insted,
Visual Discrimination, and Carry Nation. I haven't really heard the record,
but I imagine that it's pretty good. I like Insted and I think Carry Nation
is Dan O'Mahoney's old band. His new band is called 411 and they're really
good. I think all the bands on the 7" are straight-edge except Bad Religion
but that shouldn't change anyone's views on whether to get it or not because
it's all just music in the end, good or bad, straight-edge or not. I think it
would be worth mentioning that Bad Religion released "Atomic Garden" on 
Sympathy For The Record Industry before the _Generator_ album in case there's
some collector nerd out there who needs it for the complete collection, but
it's real easy to find. They also had a song on a Thrasher Skate Rock tape
that was supposed to be exclusive at the time, but it was probably released
on _Generator_. I dunno because I don't know what the song is. Oh well.
	While I'm at it, does anyone know about a band from New Jersey called
Vision? Their album is really good melodic hardcore and it's been out for a 
good while so I was just wondering if they were up to anything new. That's it 
for now.
							TOMASS

"When I walk in a crowded room                          tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu
 I feel as if it is my doom                         
 I know that I don't belong" - Green Day  
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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: NIN does Adam Ant
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:26:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.062108.22751@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> blc@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bradford Lee Chamberlain) writes:
>In addition to the two songs hidden back at tracks 98 and 99, 
>there seemed to be a blip of noise about at track 50.
>
>What other CD's do people know of with technology tricks?

One of the coolest ones I saw was on the new Skinny Puppy album "Last Rites"
(I guess it was called...) an which there was NO track 11. I think that
if you forced the CD player onto track 11 it would sit there forever.
This was done on purpose; I think on the inside of the sleeve it said 
something to the effect of "There is no track 11?". I don't have this CD,
I borrowed it for a while-- so I could be wrong about this.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Info Request on Throwing Muses
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:37:29 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

I read that Throwing Muses 1st album was really good but what's it's
name (or is it self titled) and is it "acoustic-guitarish" ?
I haven't heard much by them , "Counting Backwards "(I think) is the
only song that I can think of . I like this song(even though the lyrics
are a little repetitive), is their other stuff like this or more
acoustic?
I really like the singer's voice -does she sing all their songs or most
of them?
Please email me .
Thanks ,
           Peter Lemass.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Nathan.Bowen <Nathan.Bowen@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Kitchens of Distinction (Bleach, KingMaker) tour
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:33:45 GMT

Wow...  I wasn't even aware that the Kitchens of Distinction were on tour.  I
have liked their music for quite some time now...  If you know where I could
find the concert dates, I'd be greatly appreciative.
-- 
Nathan.Bowen@mixcom.com
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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil/Fortran 5
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 20:57:30 GMT

In <92275.145710CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> Christopher H. Prokop <CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

You missed:

I've got a cloak, it's a bit of a joke, it's got a tear up the side
it's red and black, I've had it for months.

(don't know if the tear is up the side but that's the only word I'm unsure of)

>I've got a can of gingerbread men
>there are men, lots of men, lots of gingerbread men.
Here a man, there a man, lots of gingerbread men.


>I know a room of musical tunes,
>some rhyme, some (kgjhfghfjgfjh)
		some ching
>but there's never any clockwork
Most of them are clockwork.

>Let's go into the other room and make it work
					them

>The Floyd original is really kinda cool, in a very bizarre way,
>never heard of Fortran1 (??) let alone thei supposed cover

It's Fortran 5, they're a house-ish band, but with a wider range than
that implies.  The cover is pretty funny--the music is COMPLETELY
different, and the lyrics are done by sampling Sid Caeser and assembling
the words in the right order.  Utterly hilarious when I finally got the
joke.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         Her voice sounded like something that lurks in the long grass,
                   visible only by the twitching of its ears,
                  until something young and tender wobbles by.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Re:Pearl Jam
From: kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:49:06 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

>>> [illogical equation saying Nirvana sucks because they don't make movies]
>>> [unlike ARTISTES like Pearl Jam]
>> 
>> [my response saying that makes no sense, witness Madonna]
>> 
>> "The one who started all this PJ nonsense--and proud of it!!"
  ^^^^^^
a tongue-in-cheek statement which brought Woody's wrath down on me		
 
>  Um, Kreig YOU ARE A MORON!  I started this, and you may have replyed [SIC]
> 1st but I started it.  THank you not very much.
>         And secondly I saw Singles, and the movie was awesome.  Eddie and the
> guys played great roles in the movie.  And if you don't like PJ then I am 
> willing to bet that you will start ripping On MOTHER LOVE BONE too huh?
>                                         Laters,
>                                                 Woody
>         ps. I really enjoy PJ and I ain't wearing flannel shirts.  Even though
> it's cold enough too.  BUt, I still choose to wear shorts.  Just for your
> info.
> 
WHOOOOOAAHHH! Down boy!

The reason I put that "started" thing in quotes was because, hey, I know, it
was just a reply, I didn't start the thing... I was just having fun with all
you guys going:

"I started this thread!" "No, I did!" "Fuck You!" "No, fuck YOU!!" "NIN
sucks..."

And I thought this sort of stupidity only went on in rec.music.industrial.
Maybe I should've just doused my "started" thing in smileys...

And as for your second point:

1. I have not seen _Singles_. Maybe when it's on videotape or in its second
run.
2. You say they acted very well. Good. I'm proud of them. But the last poster
was saying something like ACTING ABILITY=MUSICAL TALENT. I attempted to say it
wasn't so. You have yet to disprove me.

And what about your third point? Is Mother Love Bone unassailable because they
were never on a major? That's not the school of "alternative" thought I come
from. MY ONLY REASON FOR DISLIKING POOR JAM IS BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE
INCREDIBLY DERIVATIVE. THIS IS INTENSIFIED BY THEIR GREAT SUCCESS DUE PARTLY TO
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PRESENTED AS "ALTERNATIVE" BY COLUMBIA INC. TRENDY
FOLLOWERS BUY IT. (MY FLANNEL SHIRT POINT HAS TO DO WITH ALL THE ASSHOLES WHO
HAVE STARTED WEARING THE GODDAMN THINGS EVEN IN SUMMERTIME BECAUSE OF POOR
JAM.) You probably bought it because you liked them before. More power to you.
I don't condemn your tastes for that reason. I just think you should more
objectively at the group. Yes, Vedder has a great voice, but maybe he should
sing for someone else.

--Kreig

"Getting sick of this nonsense--and proud of it!!"
From: rgarcia@lonestar.utsa.edu (Roger E. Garcia)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Machine in Motion
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:41:01 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


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Hey, has anyone heard of Machine in Motion?..if so, are they any good..what do
they sound like( i.e. New Order,...club dance music..??)

                                            From Crazy Steller 1
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From: empath@ais.org (Tim Triemstra)
Subject: Rhythm Corps - Detroit
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:44:42 GMT

This newsgroup seems to be extremely Seatle basd, but I thought maybe
some of you might like to hear that Rhythm Corps should be coming out with
a new one pretty soon.  I've lived in Detroit all my life and seen Rhythm
Corps in concert any times, and this latest album coming will really put
them on the map (the last leap, Satelites didn't take them past Common
Ground

They've been playing about 5 or 6 new songs at the local concerts lately
that are all TOP NOTCH.  They have a weird gritty new guitar setup in a
+6-
coupla the songs that is really cool.  A cross with a Soundgarden intro
riff and a little Metalica (weird from these guys, but they have alot of
power right now, and I sure hope they get through the studio quickly.)

Either way, if there is anyone interested on music past Washington's borders
this is a group to keep an eye on (coarse, I'm slightly partial.)

Tim - BTW: Is Chris Cornell working on anything (os is Soundgarden ever
gonna come out with a new one?)
From: clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM ALTERNATIVE???? heh
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:39:16 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

While a band like REM or Pearl Jam or even U2 may not be considered
"Alternative", they are still liked by alternative music fans as well as pop
listeners.  Elvis Costello and David Byrne and veterans like that of college
radio are labeled PostModern but alternative doesn't seem to fit.  They both
get played on VH1, and Byrne (as part of Talking Heads) gets played on classic
rock and hard rock radio stations.  What are they?  I mean, Costello teams up
with McCartney (sic?) and Byrne goes salsa and classical?  What are they then?
Byrne appeals to latin, world beat, and jazz listeners (he doesn't play jazz as
such) and to college radio, Heads, and even some pop fans.  He still manages to
appear on the top 10 alternative album charts.  Is he alternative?  Are the
Indigo Girls alternative?  Galileo seems to appeal to adult  contemporary. 
Sting even shows up in alternative charts.  He certainly isn't alternative. 
Alternative music is a vague term.   Of course, there are still many bands and
artists that sill neatly fit....Violent Femmes, Psychadelic Furs, Ian Mcculloh,
and of course, many, many more.  We need to stop labeling so much.  Grunge Rock
seems to label groups like Nirvana nicely but they'll be discussions about
that, too.
From: matrobb@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Matthew Howard Robb)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Joy Div trivia
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:40:09 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <92279.103353CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> Christopher H. Prokop <CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Ok, everyone knows NO was originally JD
>Some know that JD was previously called Warsaw.
>Who knows what they were called before that (and more interestingly-
>    WHY??)
>          answer coming soon...........
 Wasn't it "stiff Kittens" or something like that? A litter 
of kittens died in the apartment upstairs.  This bit of trivia culled
from the Ideal for Living bio -- quite good, with an almost day by day
history of the band, show reviews, etc. along with some really bizarre/
cool philosophic waxings about music and Sound.  In my Joy
Division/NewOrder freak days, I bought an italian Joy Division Lyrics
book -- sort of like Dante's "Inferno" with the Italian on one side and
the English on the other.  That was the first time I realized how good
lyrics could be.  Ah to be young and wear lots of black . . . but you
can only be a tortured adolescent for so long.
Matthew Robb
matrobb@phoenix.princeton.edu
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Eric's Trip
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:07:18 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <900361p.7.717692866@ace.acadiau.ca>, by 900361p@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL CHARLES PIERCEY):
> Ok, here's the dirt on Eric's Trip.  Their 7" is quickly selling out (I got 

Are they named after the Sonic Youth song on Daydream Nation?
--
Kent Williams -- williams@cs.uiowa.edu
"I'm tired of being nice to people who're full of shit" -- Me
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From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: new address for Negativmailorderland (Re: Negativland)
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., IL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:26:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.083737.17459@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
[...]
>Finally, I'm seeking reviews of Negativland's video, _No Other
>Possibility_, if anyone would care to post or mail me thoughts on it. 
>One die-hard fan has already told me it sucks, so I'd like others'
>opinoins before I buy it. Thanks.
>
>Later,
>
> - nathan

*----------*

I enjoyed the video.  There were some slow moments, but there were
also some histerical moments.  Like the footage from a live show,
in which they had two girls, about 8 years old, dressed in silly
costumes, shouting out the names of junk foods.

I would say it's worth getting for die-hard fans.

-- 
   "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
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From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Something Happens
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:24:24 GMT


Anyone out there have the latest Something Happens record?

I really enjoyed the last one, and enjoyed them live, but
thought I'd checkto see how this one compared.

Also, who produced it? It wasn't Ed Stasium this time, I don't believe.

Thanks,
Rodney Boles

raboles@eos.ncsu.edu
boles@ralvm29.vnet.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sundays new album?
From: Michael Hamilton Walker <mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 16:42:31 -0400 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

	Last I saw on the board at the local record store, the new Sundays
would be out on the twentieth.  I would be glad to be proven wrong, and
have the date being earlier, as I'm also looking forward to its release.

(the wording's really fucked-up to this letter, for which I apologize)

Mike


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From: s34037k@saha.hut.fi (Marko M{kynen)
Subject: Dead Moon,Thee Headcoats,Monomen
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 12:24:07 GMT

Subject: 
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Keywords: 

HI
Can someone tell me every record these bands have made and also which of
Dead Moon's records are recorded mono
and all sidebands of Wild Billy Childish(Thee Headcoats)
Monomen's latest LP 'Wrecker!' is very good,how good are they at live? 
________________
Marko Makynen
s34037k@saha.hut.fi
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From: 900361p@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL CHARLES PIERCEY)
Subject: Eric's Trip
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:07:46 GMT

Ok, here's the dirt on Eric's Trip.  Their 7" is quickly selling out (I got 
mine = # 315), but they have a CD coming out soon.  It's called "Peter" and 
apparently it'll be in stores soon.  That's all I know about (no producer 
info or track listings, sorry), except for the fact that it has a picture of 
my friend Peter on the cover, cuz he's friends with the band.  More rumour=
(a) they're negoiating with SUB POP right now about a deal (b) they're 
opening for Sonic Youth in Toronto sometime soon (does anyone remember that 
Nirvana did the same thing?) (c) they're playing at a SUB POP festival in 
Vermont or virginia in the near future, and all the SP bands will be there.
Cool, huh?
	I just saw them play two nights at the Flamingo in halifax opening 
for SLOAN and CHANGE OF HEART and they blew both bands off stage.  They are 
amazing live, so see 'em if you have the opportunity.
	I'll keep you posted.

					Stumpy
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