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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:21:50 MET
Reply-To:     Panagiotis Tsarchopoulos <tsarcho@DFKI.UNI-KL.DE>
From:         Panagiotis Tsarchopoulos <tsarcho@DFKI.UNI-KL.DE>
Subject: Re : O Lewvidas Kyrkos gia to Makedoviko
Comments: To: HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu

In article <HELLAS%92111909241761@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>,
IVRISSIMTZIS@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK writes:
|> Dystyxws, Pavagiwtn, (poy telika prepei va symfoitntnsame merika xrovia
|> sto Polytexveio) mallov eivai adyvato va gefyrw0oyv oi apopseis mas. Isws
|> va ksekivoyme kai apo diaforetikn basn o ka0evas-opws les.
|>

Pragmati eimastan symfoithtes (an kai me merika xronia diafora)
kai pragmati ksekiname apo mia poly diaforetikh bash o ka0enas.

|> Alla, parakalw. H e0vikn omofwvia kai "omopsyxia" gyrw apo to Makedoviko dev
|> eivai kai toso idavikn opws 0a '0eles. Gi ayto 0a para0esw kai eva kommati
 apo
|> tn syvevteyksn toy L. Kyrkoy (poy se prosfatn syzntnsn stnv TV evas Samarikos
|> boyleytns tns seiras tov apokalese "egkaloymevo") stov Oikov. Taxydromo. Oi
|> 0eseis toy me briskoyv apolyta symfwvo.

Den milhse kanenas gia 100% omofwnia. Logiko kai angkaio einai
na yparxoun kai anti0etes apopseis. Alla den nomizw na diafwneis
oti h syntriptika megalh pleiopshfia tou Ellhnikou laou exei thn idia 0esh,
h opoia einai teleiws diaforetikh apo ayth tou Lewnida Kyrkou kai ara
kai apo thn dikia sou Lewnida.(To exoun oi Lewnides fainetai:-))

|>
|> E: Symfwveite me to syv0nma "H Makedovia eivai ellnvikn"?
|>
|> LK: Apotelei to xeiristo twv syv0nmatwv... H ellnvikn Makedovia eivai
 ellnvikn.
|> H boylgarikn Makedovia eivai boylgarikn. H skopiavn Makedovia eivai n
 Makedovia
|> twv Skopiwv...
|>
|> E: Pisteyete oti oi katoikoi twv Skopiwv exoyv to dikaiwma va
 aytoapokaloyvtai
|> "Makedoves"?
|>
|> LK: Oi katoikoi twv Skopiwv exoyv to dikaiwma va krivoyv oi idioi pws 0a
|> ovomazovtai kai oxi opws krivei o opoiosdnpote k. Samaras. Eivai apisteyto
 oti
|> o prwnv YPEKS tolma va isxyrizetai oti 0a eprepe va epibaloyme stoys
 katoikoys
|> twv Skopiwv va mn xrnsimopoioyv to ovoma Makedoves. Profavws o prwnv YPEKS
 dev
|> eixe diabasei tn symfwvia tns DASE, tnv opoia n Ellada prosypegrapse me
|> tympavokroysies, symfwva me tnv opoia laoi kai meiovotntes exoyv to dikaiwma
|> toy aytoprosdiorismoy kai dev eteroprosdiorizovtai.
|>

Lypamai eilikrina gia ta logia ayta tou Lewnida Kyrkou. Krima ti allo
mporw na pw? Apo pou ki ws pou dhladh exoun to dikaiwma na
apokalountai opws 0eloun xwris na pernoume ypopsh tipota allo??
Kai giati stoxos einai o Samaras ths epi0eshs
tou Kyrkou?? Kai ta tria kommata (N.D-Pasok-Syn.) symfwnoun m'ayto
pou meta bdelygmias apokyrysei o Kyrkos. Giati den epiti0etai kai enantion aytwn
twn kommatwn kai briskei thn eykolh lysh tou apodiopompaioy tragou
pou onomazetai Samaras?? Kai san na arghse ligo na anakalypsei
o agaphtos Lewnidas Kyrkos thn parapanw 0esh pou kaythriazei : einai
epishmh 0esh ths Elladas edw kai poly kairo. Giati den milouse mexri twra
dhladh??? Giati den elege thn diafwnia tou me to "h Makedonia einai ellhnikh"??
Pou na parei o diaolos, den mporei twra na to phre xampari......einai
grammeno pantou ta teleytaia 1-2 xronia........

Ti grafei h symfwnia ths DASE ?? Oti ka0e kratos exei dikaiwma
na yponomeyei kai na exei blepseis sta geitonika tou?? Eixa thn
entypwsh oti DASE shmainei Diaskepsh gia Thn Synergasia kai ton Afoplismo
oxi gia thn en0arrynsh epi0etikwn energeiwn. As thn ksanadiabasei
thn DASE o Kyrkos, ayta ta eykola syn0hmatakia peri aytoprosdiorismou
akougontai wraia kai dhmokratika, alla prepei na yparxei ena
oloklhro plaisio san p.x. ayto pou orizei h apofash ths EOK
persi stis 16 Dek. H' anakalypse o Kyrkos meta apo ena xrono oti diafwnei
kai m' ayth thn apofash?? Symfwna me thn logikh tou Kyrkou
olh h EOK kineitai se anti-DASE grammh me to na arneitai ayto to "stoixeiwdes"
dikaiwma tou aytoprosdiorismou stous Skopianous...... paraeinai
kakokataskeyasmeno to "epixeirhma" tou Kyrkou peri DASE......

Ta parapanw apoteloun to xeiristo twn - mexri twra entimwn kai
arketa profhtikwn - 0esewn tou Kyrkou. To mono pou mporw na epanalabw einai
h lyph mou.

|> Kai apo to sxolio tns <E> pavw sta logia ayta: "Etsi apla kai ksastera o
|> Lewvidas Kyrkos ypswvei 0arallea kai ypey0yva tn fwvn toy. Aptontos, bebaiws,
|> apo osa peri meiodosias kraygazoyv oi ek toy asfaloys "yperpatriwtes"- aytos
|> gia tov opoio o patriwtismos ntav kai eivai stasn zwns."
|>

Twra an ayto einai ksastero kai 0aralleo ypswma ths fwnhs mporei o
ka0enas mas na to krinei.Krima kai pali krima......

|> Lewvidas

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