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From: arthur@sgi.com (Arthur Evans)
Subject: Re: sweet-malty brew
Reply-To: arthur@chiba.esd.sgi.com (Arthur Evans)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 20:00:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.286.5890@execnet> "kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com> writes:
>Can anyone suggest some other sweet/malty brews.  I have tried and enjoyed 
>Grants Weiss and Grants Scotsh Ale.

If you like Grant's version, maybe you should try a 
Scottish version of Scottish beer--many aren't available
in this country, but you may be able to find Belhaven 
or McEwan's.

Last I knew, Belhaven was an independant brewery.
McEwan's is the product of the huge Scottish & Newcastle
conglomerate, so McEwan's may be easier to find.

OK
arthur

Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: beer@sooner.ctci.com (Beer Diety)
Subject: New Brewing Publication for Southwest
Organization: CTC, Inc., Austin, TX. U.S. of A. 78757-3109
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:04:00 GMT


	I just discovered a new Home Brewing Publication published here
	in Austin, TX. I am not affiliated with it, just figured I'd
	pass along some more info on it.

	The "Sneak Preview Edition" is due out soon(I've seen it).

	Southwest Brewing News
	11405 Evening Star Drive
	Austin, TX 78739
	(512) 282-3911

	Covering Arkansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Lousiana, New Mexico & Texas.
	Home Brewing & other beer related news(like the battle for brewpubs
	here in Texas.) Columns like: "Ask the Beer Doctor", Brew Ha-Ha's
	(upcoming events), & "The Hopvine".
	$12 a year.
	Publisher:	 Joe Barfielda (512) 453-7001
	Editor:		 Bill Metzger (512) 282-3911
	Ad Manager:	 Hans Granheim (512) 443-3607

	
	If some of these names look familiar, Bill Metzger had a article in 
	The New Brewer in 1992 Sept/Oct issue.

	Tell him you heard about it from Dewey Coffman on USENET, maybe I'll
	get to post excerpts here... ;-)
-- 

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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Identify a brew, please
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:10:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <lk0nsrINNdi1@news.bbn.com> djstracher@ccs1.bbn.com writes:
>In article <j1moody-281292185020@hesmac12.hesburgh.lab.nd.edu>, j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Joe Moody) writes:
>>There's a beer out, it's an ale I believe, that comes in a clear 40 ounce
>>bottle. It has an indian name and is supposed to be quite high in alcohol
>>content. Maybe 'Crazy Horse'? Anyway, somebody told me they're taking it
>>off the market.
>>Does anyone know the real name and whether they are going to continue
>>selling it?
>>
>>Joe
>
>
>Crazy Horse is the right name. Don't know about marketing.

Yum and chewey, bum chow. Actually its sells for $2.40 a forty once,
here in Milwaukee. It's contract brewed through G.Heilman, makers
of Old Style, at least in the mid west. The reason I have heard for 
Crazy Horse being pulled is because of it's name. When I was out 
west this summer the Native Americans were not happy about the name.
The pointed to Crazy Horse as being a hero of Native Americans and
that he never approved of alcohol. They went on to say that why should
a high alcohol malt liquor be out with his name on it. Native Americans
already suffer from high rates of alcoholism ect...

Well the Brewery, some company out of Maryland said the naming was done out 
of respect of the great Native American Chief. And so they Native Americans
protested it. 

I haven't heard if it is going to be pulled off the market, but my
guess is that it will, and personally I side with the Native Americans.


Ken

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dheckman@novell.com (Diane Heckman)
Subject: Looking for Belgian beers in SF Bay Area 
Followup-To: dheckman@novell.com 
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Distribution: ca 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:26:59 GMT



I'm looking for certain Belgian / Dutch beers in 
the San Francisco Bay Area.

We want to find Hoegaarden Grand Cru, LaChouffe, 
Het Ij Columbus (from Amsterdam), Moinette, Brigand, 
La Vielle Zalm, or trippels from any abbey
style brewery.


We can find Hoegaarden Wit, Leffe Blond, Chimay, 
Grimbergen Tripel, Duvel, and Orval. 

I've tried bottled Celis Wit and Grand Cru, but the
Grand Cru just does not compare to Hoegaarden Grand Cru.
Maybe it's the pasturization.



Thanks for any help-
Diane Heckman
dheckman@novell.com
From: twc0@newshost.gte.com (Thomas Christoffel)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: re: Leinenkugels
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:31:20 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA


Does anyone know of a source for Leinenkugels in the Boston Area

Thanks in advance
twc0@gte.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: R0264@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Question on Landshut local beer
Organization: CSU
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:28:24 GMT

As a GI in Germany many years ago, I did a lot of beer sampling, and was
most impressed by a beer brewed locally in Landshut, Bavaria (I believe).
It must have been lager, but was very smooth and tasty, and that is about
al I can say after so long, but to my taste I remember thinking this is
the best beer ever.  Any one know what I'm talking about?  The brand
name -- or some recipe info?
   Phil In Cleveland
From: DJWalker@cup.portal.com (Doug Jay Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Additives in beer
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:45:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec30.150505.20019@ncsu.edu>

>In article <19921229141406EEY9JJT@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> EEY9JJT@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (
J
>ohn Talbert) writes:
>>German purity laws dictate that beer can have only 4 ingredients:
>>water, hops, malt, and yeast.
>
>So it goes for many German breweries. But there are exceptions, and
>they aren't considered "outlaw" breweries. Wheat beers are an obvious
>example.

Not so... "malt" doesn't have to be BARLEY malt.  Properly-brewed 
Weissbier still adheres to the Rheinheitsgebot.

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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Filipino Beer (Red Horse)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 20:41:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Dec30.173926.22940@vestek.com> don@vestek.com (Don Labutay) writes:
>Has anyone out there ever try this filipino beer called Red Horse.
>Is it just me or this beer is really strong?  Me and my friends can only
>drink one bottle each.  I just want an opinion from the hardcore beer drinkers  
>out there.  Try it if you haven't.

I have friend from the Philippines, he always referred to this beer,
"the beer that kicks". He said it was their slogan.

Ken
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From: Belushi <affouj@rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: Who Distributes Samichlaus? (Was: Re: Samichlaus '91)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:27:44 GMT

dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes:

>Well, it's only 8 days 'till Christmas and I can't find Samichlaus
>anywhere in the Puget Sound area.  All I ask (for next year's sake)
>is that somebody who actually *has* a bottle of this beer send me the
>name and, hopefully, the address of the distributor off the bottle so
>I can ask our socialized liquor distribution monopoly (the Washington
>state Liquor Control Board) to special-order me in some.  Also, if
>any other Puget Sound-area readers would like to go in on this (since
>you can only order case lots from Ol' George) let me know and maybe
>we can work a 6-pack-a-person deal or something like that.  Thanks
>to any and all who respond.  Happy Holidays.

>-- 
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Well, I guess I can give you all the info I have, which ain't that much,
in the way of an address.. Samichlaus, brewed by Hurlimann's, is imported
to the US by Phoenix Imports, Ltd., Baltimore MD.  That's as much info as 
is given on the bottle...A classic brew...I thought the '91 was quite good,
and have sampled other years as well...

Hope this helps some [any ?]...

-j

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Double Diamond Ale
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:52:25 GMT

In article <1h9bhpINNej2@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk () writes:

>Double Diamond (along with Red Barrel amongst others) were the great
>inventions of 60's brewing in Britain. Mass marketed, bland keg beers
>that would appeal to the masses. The idea was that the punters would
>go for the consistency and blandness, and the brewers could just brew
>the one beer in large "megakeggaries". They would then just slug it
>out between each other by advertising (somewhat along the lines, the
>cigarette companies do now).
[...]
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Mark,

Interesting.  The carton Double Diamond is packaged in states that
DD has been brewed since 1876.  Are you saying that prior to the
1960's DD was brewed and only available in a limited local area as
as keg beer; then in the 1960's the marketers got the idea to up
production and bottle the stuff?

Also, what's CAMBRA?



Jim
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: skenny@pico.engr.mun.ca (Shawn Kenny)
Subject: Re: Out of State ID's
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:31:36 GMT

dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes:

>In article <1992Dec8.172516.8368@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>Around here, alot of places have a book that has photographs of all current
>>driver's licenses from each state.
>>
>>I'm not sure, but I think it may also describe common fakes, what
>>is acceptable and what isn't, and whatever else.  I think if law
>>enforcement agencies support this book and give it accrediation,
>>then using it to prove ID genuine should eradicate problems drinking
>>establishments have accepting out-of-state ID.
>>
>>Anybody else hear of such a thing ??

>I've got a copy of a paperback book put out by the Washington State Patrol
>called something like "Identifying Counterfiet ID".  It also has a big
>warning on the back along the lines of "Unlawful for private citizens
>to posess this publication."  OK, Copper, Come and Get Me!  I can't find
>where I've put it so I doubt they could. :-)

Believe it or not.. I once was refused entry to a bar in Florida.... the
passport I had wasn't good enough!!! 

--
"I'm having a lot of holiday stress. ... Deep down, I doubt my greed for 
presents can overcome my desire to misbehave." Calvin and Hobbes by
Bill Watterson.
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan - was Re: Help
Keywords: Historical significance?
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:01:58 GMT

> cmacken@unix2.tcd.ie (Conor Macken) writes:

>The name "Black and Tan" also has a lot of historical significance
attached to it here in Ireland. 

Yes?  Please continue.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
Subject: Re: Double Diamond Ale
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:19:15 GMT

Sorry this is not from England,  but _I_ think Double Diamond is wonderful!  It
is much more hopsy than the likes of Bass,  and slightly sweet.  YUM!!  I might
also add that at $6.something/six,  a great value!  Cheers.  Dan.


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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Stephen R Stewart)
Subject: Re: Columbia beer
Reply-To: srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Stephen R Stewart)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:16:00 GMT

to mac@utkvx.bitnet, 

You posted here awhile ago that you had an old can of Columbia beer that
you wanted to sell. I've been unable to reach you by email. Please email me
at srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu , or anyone else with a can for that matter.

Thanx


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From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Filipino Beer (Red Horse)
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:36:55 CST
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

I've tried Red Horse.  I like it.  It's not my all time favorite, but I won't
turn it down if offered.

Mike Wilson
brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us
From: HR@brewhr.swb.de (Heiko Rath)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Weiss bier
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 20:51:36 GMT
Reply-To: HR@brewhr.swb.de (Heiko Rath)
Organization: The Software Brewery
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

In article <3152.1876.uupcb@compart.fi> ulf.sandas@compart.fi (Ulf Sandas)  writes:
>
>U.>	You are served Weissbier with a lemon only if you get a
>U.>	Kristallweizen. (all the yeast is filtered out so it's
>U.>	'crystal'-clear.   
>U.>
>U.>	Normal Weizen/Weissbies is served without the fruit
>
>Never heard of german beer served with lemon, Kristallweizen. Sounds very 
>strange to me because I thought germans wouldn't like that kind of mix. 
>It's almost like mexican SOL with a piece of lime. Quit exotic...

It is relativly common to be served a Kristall with a slice of lemmon in
Germany.


Heiko - who prefers Hefe himself
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: elwin@gamma.phys.clemson.edu (Lawrence E. Brown)
Subject: Re: Black and Tan
Keywords: This article printed on 100% recycled electrons
Reply-To: elwin@gamma.phys.clemson.edu (Lawrence E. Brown)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:37:04 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.232758.21626@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:

>>
>>i bet it's the nitrogen.

>How many times can we go through this?  It has nothing to do with any
>mythical 'nitrogen' that may be present, it's the bubbles in the
>just-poured draft Guinness that initially keep it afloat.  That's why,
>as a previous poster pointed out, a good barman can just pull the
>Guinness *plop!* into the beer, no spoon or nothing, and create a
>perfect one.  You too can do this in the privacy of your own home if
>you use a just-opened can of 'Pub Draught Guinness,' which has no
>nitrogen in it BTW.  In fact, don't even buy Guinness in bottles
>anymore, there's just no reason!  Draught cans are light-years beyond
>any of the sludge that comes out of those bottles!  End of story!

Um, er,... aren't those the cans that have the little spinning
"bobo" in them that emits NITROGEN bubbles to match the draught
Guinness that you get in bars which is also dispensed using
pressurized NITROGEN? One more time, Nitrogen weighs less than
CO2 and has  very different surface chemsitry.
That's why draught Guiness has those little tiny BUBBLES. So,
now we need someone who can buy the canned Guiness (we don't get
it here yet) and the bottled stuff to try them side by side and
tell us if it really is the bubbles, I can't see how it would
work myself but I've been wrong a couple of times before :).
Any volunteers? 

--
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From: roland@clubber.stgt.sub.org (Roland Hoffmann)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Beer-exchange wanted
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:14:53 MEZ
Organization: Lummerland Forschungslabors

Hi, out there,
looking for people who liked to exchange rare sorts of beer.
I'm interested in all sorts (besides those dealed in Germany and
non-alcohilic-beer-like-waters).

Let me know if youd need some bottles from good ol' Germany.
--Roland--


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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:19:43 GMT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland

In article <1gtar6INN6ah@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.120042.1@vax1.tcd.ie> blucey@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
>>
>>Folly : dont Drink Ale ( barf, puke, retch )
>>Drink Guinness
>
>   Is not Guinness an ale?

  Technically, yes.  A dark ale.  Classically, all top fermenting beers
  are refered to as ales.

  Still, for example Michael Jackson separates stouts, porter, and
  ale types (Pale Mild, Dark Mild, Bitter, Pale Ale etc, etc) on different
  branches of his "The Family Tree of Beer Styles".

  It makes things perhaps a bit more clear to do this rather than make
  stouts a sub-branch of the ale types.

  But, as mentioned above, classically all top fermenting beers are refered to
  as ales.  (According to what I've read)

	- Mika
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From: lew@grant.ncd.com (Lewis Curl)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:14:59 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

|> In article <7927@news.duke.edu> daniel@teer9.acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford) writes:
|> >In article <1992Dec12.230901.1@acad.drake.edu>, kns001@acad.drake.edu writes:

|> >|> 
|> >|>                        In all the talk I've seen here abt. Mexican brews,
|> >|> nobody's mentioned Simpatico, which I really like - has anyone else tried it?
|> >                      ^^^^^^^^^^
|> >|> (comes in a nifty black bottle...)   
|> >
|> >
|> >I was under the imression that Simpatico was made in Iowa -- is this true???
|> >
|> 
|> It's been brewed in several places, and at various times marketed as a
|> German or Mexican or German-style or Mexican-style beer.  This stuff
|> is strictly an ad campaign - the beer itself has never been more than
|> secondary.
|> 
|> -- 
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|> dcb@rosedale.seaslug.org       #####   #####                KTZZ-22 in Seattle.
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I still don't know why they made a Corona Light...  Isn't it light enough already?
From: rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Where to drink in Montreal ?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 09:03:52 -0800
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: umich
NNTP-Posting-Host: fangio.asd.sgi.com

rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a good brewpub in Montreal ?

Following is a short list of brewpubs in Montreal, unfortunately I don't 
have the exact addresses.

    Better,  they have a few locations.  Passable to Good german food,
	and claim to have their "own" brew.  (St Laurent near Mt Royal)
  
    La Cervoise, never been there

    Le Cheval Blanc, the first Montreal brewpub.  Kind of bare bones, 
	and not too far from the Bus terminal, if you know what I mean...

    Crocodile Club, upscale/trendy, however the focus is not on the 
	beer.  I think they only incidently (St Laurent near Rachel)

These are Beer oriented pubs. (lots of selection, etc...)

  * Fu^tenbulle			Bernard near Park
  * Fu^nanbulle (sp?)		St Laurent near Roy
    Alexanders			Peel near deMaisoneuve

* recomended

In Montreal, at least while I lived there, the trend was towards several
Microbreweries selling their wares at regular pubs.  Fu^tenbulle is my
favourite of these pubs, as it has a great selection and very good food.

Microbrew to look for include (but are not limited to):
St Ambroise, Griffon, Boreal, Belle Guelle, Hopps Brau, La Portneuvoise

New establishments have surely opened since I moved away.  Try looking in 
the Yellow Pages (both english and french sections) once you get there.

>              "Let no man lack for the thirst of real ale...."

Co-incidentally, I'm wearing that T-shirt as I type...

...robert
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor)
Subject: Re: Making a shandy?
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:10:34 GMT

Shandies are best made with either a Lager or, at worst, a pale
ale.

There is also a variation using ginerbeer or dry ginger ale

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Stephen R Stewart)
Subject: Columbia Beer
Reply-To: srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Stephen R Stewart)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:14:58 GMT

To mac@utkvx.bitnet

You posted here awhile ago and said you had a can of Columbia beer for sale. 
I've been unable to reach you by email. Please get in contact with me a
at srs9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu , or anyone else with a can.

Thanx

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