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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Win Excel 3.0 -> OS/2 Excel for $7.50 (Academic edition)
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:14:21 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul23.112837.24346@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.223621.21391@cco.caltech.edu> hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:
>> For those of you who purchased the Windows version of Excel 3.0 after
                                                              ^^^^^
>> December 1991 (Academic edition, I don't know about the regular
>> edition upgrade policy) you can get the OS/2 3.0 version including
                                               ^^^^^
>> manuals for only the media charge of $7.50.  I got my copy today so
>> this is for real.
>
>I find it hard to believe that Microsoft is releasing *new* OS/2
>software......I know there are versions of Excel and Word that have been
>around for a couple of years.......

Does this look "new"?  It is Excel 3.0.  This version has been out for
OS/2 for about a year now.  The new version of Excel, 4.0 has not been
ported (yet).

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From: froelich@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Bill Froelich)
Subject: Re: Borland Objectvision for OS/2 - Comments?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:03:38 GMT

rshelley@riscy.simplot.com (Robert Shelley) writes:

>It allows you to make GUI for a Db.  In a point and shoot
>manner and once you are used to doing it you can develope
>some fairly involved routines quickly.  I used OV for
>Windows and one of the downsides was that you could not
>get a report out of it, just enter and retrieve screens.
>I have OV for OS/2 and it appears that you can get a
>rudimentary report out (PRINT SCREEN?) if you want to.
>I just got it and have not had a chance to try it out.

All I can speak for is the windows version and I agree with
you that it's reporting is VERY limited.  On the positive
side of that there is a windows program called quick reports
that is designed to be used in conjunction with objectvision
to do reporting from dbase, paradox and btreive.  I haven't had
much chance to use it yet, but i does come with a DLL that can
be called from objectvision and the manual does document the 
DLL functions for C and Objectvision and a few others I think.
I think it would be possible to also call the DLL from the OS/2 
version of objectvision, but I don't have the OS/2 version yet to try.
Any takers?  
Hope this helps.

--Bill Froelich
  froelich@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

>Robert 		rshelley@riscy.simplot.com



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From: mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Subject: GNU groff/troff et al.. macro bugs?
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:49:42 GMT

I have fetched the GNU groff package from hobbes..  WOW!

At last, I can format man pages on my 486, rather than uploading
to a unix box and then downloading the results.

But.. the basic test for such programs is to try them on their own
man pages.. in this case, several files result in warnings/errors from
the formatter.  Is this "normal", or just an added OS/2 feature?
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From: hoang@super.org (Dzung T. Hoang)
Subject: Re: Floppy Backup, Re: 32bit Shareware backup program.
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:48:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.054001.11676@cco.caltech.edu> hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:
>
[stuff about diskette prices deleted]
>
>While the above data is correct, it neglects to include the cost of
>the tape drive itself, which many people, myself included, would have
>to buy to store anything on tape.  Floppy drives, on the other hand,
>are standard equipment on every PC I've ever seen.  I think that is
>the point others have been making in this thread.
>
>-- 
>Jon Hacker
>Caltech, Pasadena CA
>hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu

A 120/250M tape drive costs $250.  A 60/120M drive costs $200.  This
is less than a hard drive of comparable capacity, and less than many
software packages such as spreadsheets, word processors, and CAD
programs.  There is no excuse for having tape as standard equipment,
especially now that 200M hard drives are common.  I have a 100MB hard
drive and spent over 10 hours trying to back up about 70M of data onto
50 3.5" diskettes.  (The backup program choked on a bad diskette and I
had to start all over several times.)  My next computer purchase is
a tape drive.  I'm just waiting for an inexpensive one that comes
with software for OS/2.
-- 
|  Dzung T. Hoang							|
|  dth@cs.brown.edu, hoang@super.org					|
|  Grad Student, Dept. of Computer Science				|
|  Brown University, Providence, RI					|
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From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Win Excel 3.0 -> OS/2 Excel for $7.50 (Academic edition)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:28:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.223621.21391@cco.caltech.edu> hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:
> For those of you who purchased the Windows version of Excel 3.0 after
> December 1991 (Academic edition, I don't know about the regular
> edition upgrade policy) you can get the OS/2 3.0 version including
> manuals for only the media charge of $7.50.  I got my copy today so
> this is for real.
> 
> -- 
> Jon Hacker
> Caltech, Pasadena CA
> hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu

I find it hard to believe that Microsoft is releasing *new* OS/2
software......I know there are versions of Excel and Word that have been
around for a couple of years.......
 
Can anyone confirm that these are new?
 
Steve

-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | "But the glory kept shining
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  And the stars going round in 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  my head." R. L. S.
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From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander for OS/2
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:35:30 GMT

bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (MacroMan) writes:

>affie@earley.sns.neuphilologie.uni-tuebingen.de (Ralf Affie Hauser) writes:

>>Now I am looking for somethin' like the Norton Commander for OS/2 (2.0). 
>>If you ask for money I will pay for it!
>>Call me if you have made such a tool and if you want to distribute it!
>>Contact me! e-mail me!

>  Count me in too.  I've used NC for years, and I still find it to be
>the fastest way to organize files - by far.  FC doesn't have mouse 
>support, so its useless to me.  Also, if you're considering making
>such a beast, you might consider making it a PM program so that
>drag and drop cababilities can be used.



------------



I am a beta tester for directory manager 2.0.  This is a PM based file
manager that is similar in spirit to Norton Commander.  It is by no
means a copy of the commander, but people used to using NC will find
it very functional.  It does some things better than NC, for example
unlimited number of file windows can be opened which are tied to a
directory window.  Drag and drop is supported to the WPS, and a file
viewer is built-in. Macros can be defined that launch apps with
files selected and I have written a cmd file that allows file
xtensions to be used to associate with specific apps.  There is a
command window that is not as convenient as NC's command line, but is
functionally equivalent (you have to use ctrl-o to make it visible).
Keyboard users are well cared for, and you can copy, move, rename,
make directories, clone, etc files with pop-up boxes that are similar
to NC's.


All in all, it is the best NC look-a-like I have found for the WPS
(and I have tried all the FTP ones I could find for OS/2).  Directory
manager 2.0 is in final beta test (code freeze with last release) and
I would expect it to be available within a few weeks.  You can find
the previous release of directory manager 1.1d on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
(dirman0101c.zoo) however it lacks a lot of the functionality of
the 2.0 release.)  This is shareware and I don't know the price
for the new release (1.1d was $35).

(I am not associated with QB Software, and the above is strictly
the opinion of someone who is an avid DOS NC user, namely me!)


-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
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From: anto@dutetvd.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto)
Subject: System hang with REISPLANNER
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:57:29 GMT

Hi, 

I'm a happy user of OS/2 2.0. Last night I had my seconds system down, since
I got OS/2 2.0 (well, not include WPS's bugs). I have the newest kernel
patch (6.412) and the new pmwin.dll and pmgre.dll.

Anyway, I ran REISPLAN (the time table tool from the Netherlands Railway)
last night and got a system error:
	
	The system detected an internal processing error at
	location ##0160:fff64526-000d:a52b.
	60000, 9084

	038600d1
	Internal revision 6.412, 92/06/02

and I have to cold-start my PC. 
FYI, with the old kernel (6.307) I can run this software flawlessly.

--

Regards,

Anto Daryanto

TU Delft, The Netherlands
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:15:38 GMT

In article <62745@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>I got Borland C++ 3.1 to work under OS/2 with one major (in my opinion)
>missing piece:
>The help screens
>Apparently, the help screens used by BC++ 3.1 use the 3.1 file format,
>OS/2 refuses to load them.
>If anyone has a workaround, please let me (and everyone else) know.

I am not familiar with the package, but here are (perhaps) a couple
workarounds:

(1)  Use the BC++ 3.0 help screens;
(2)  Copy the Windows 3.1 help engine (WINHELP.EXE?) and associated
DLLs, if any, to \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 (?) and see if it works (backup the
old one first).
(3)  Wait until September for the Win-OS/2 3.1 update.

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from 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp,     | Internet: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu
directory pub/os2/all/faq, or from      | Dept. of Econ., U. Chicago, 60637
LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP"). | Tsongas > Perot > Clinton.  Yay.
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: <None>
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:59:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.174106.6038@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> regy106@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (John, Registry) writes:
>	I am looking for a key definition program.  I use borland's superkey
>on dos but I want one for os2 applications.
>Any about?

Not as sophisticated, by try swapdcp.zoo, available via anonymous ftp
from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

-- 
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from 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp,     | Internet: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu
directory pub/os2/all/faq, or from      | Dept. of Econ., U. Chicago, 60637
LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP"). | Tsongas > Perot > Clinton.  Yay.
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From: jarinie@sulo.otol.fi (Jari Niemel{ T-230-3)
Subject: Is there a screen-grab utility available ?
Organization: Oulu Institute of Technology, Finland
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:27:04 GMT

I need to take _shots_ from WorkPlaceShell, how is that possible ?
Is there (in os/2) such function, or must I buy one ?

-- 
Jari Niemela                       * I am only poor 
Oulu Instute Of Technology         * lonesome
jarinie@otol.oulu.fi               * cowboy ;)
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Publisher's Paintbrush ...
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 22:37:35 GMT
Organization: none

skagos@hercules.uregina.ca writes
 in article <1992Jul25.195729.9282@regina.cs.uregina.ca>:
> 
>   I was looking through the OS/2 insert in the recent PC Mag.  I saw
> and advert for Publisher's Paintbrush and was really interested in
> getting info on it.  [text deleted]  If someone has the address of
> ZSoft I'd also appreciate it so that I can send off a query to them.

ZSoft Corporation
450 Franklin Road
Suite 100
Marietta, Georgia 30067
USA

Phone (404) 428-0008


When registering my Win3 copy last year, I _did_ ask them for an
OS/2 version.  So it's all thanks to me ... :-)

ZSoft have a good upgrade policy.  I went from the Paintbrush
that came "free" with a MS mouse, to PC Paintbrush IV Plus, then
to Publisher's.
__
 _______  Email: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz
////      ZL2AJH    Wellington, New Zealand
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From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:11:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul22.144409.1611@gacvx2.gac.edu> logic@gacvx2.gac.edu writes:
>> Really in betatest ?! - where did you get this information from ?
>from a betatester
>
>al hart

I was at the Object World conference in S.F. today and the had the C++ Beta
there for all to see.

Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com
From: jorourke@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason O'Rourke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 16:52:48 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Where's Borland?  Come on, give them a little time...the reason that Lotus and
Microsoft have new versions of their software for os/2 is that they have 
already have PM versions and one of them used to develop os/2.  That gives
them a hell of a head start on someone like Borland, that waited until real
sales developed.
Jason O'Rourke
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Floppy Backup, Re: 32bit Shareware backup program.
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:12:18 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <92205.132615ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.172317.26801@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) says:
>>emloyee's time.  With a tape drive, the employee has merely to insert
>>a tape, start the backup, and go to lunch (or home for the evening).
>
>I think we all hope OS/2 will not only be a company OS but will make it
>to the desktop of the home user. For the cost of a tape drive I can buy
>about 1 Gigabyte of floppies in Germany. I have no employee who does my
>backup so this is irrelevant to me. I definitely want a _good_ floppy
>backup program.

Well, I am looking to buy a tape drive for my home OS/2 system as soon
as I find one that will work with my ISA 386 machine.  I can't stand
sitting by the computer for two hours inserting floppies all night to
make a backup.  One good 150MB tape system would solve all my
problems...

I may not be getting paid for it, but my time at home is valuable
enough that I don't want to waste it in front of the computer.
-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
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From: soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn)
Subject: Re: GNU file utilities (and groff)
Reply-To: soh3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:40:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.105635.17644@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel) writes:
>
>I have also uploaded an OS/2 2.0 version of GNU groff 1.05 to ftp-os2,
>in groffexe.zip and groffsrc.zip, for those who care about a troff
>clone.

Thanks, Kai.  This is exciting!!!

Min
>
>Kai Uwe Rommel
>
>/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */
>
>DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
>handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams
>



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From: macketan@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Macketanz)
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Originator: macketan@hphalle9b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:17:41 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.155506.1610@gacvx2.gac.edu>, logic@gacvx2.gac.edu writes:
|> In article <21JUL199215024239@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes:
|> > A few months ago, Borland seemed to be promising that they were heavily 
|> > committed to supplying applications for OS/2:  The trade rags quoted 
|> > Phillipe Khan (sp?) saying how important OS/2 would be, etc.
|> > 
|> > TODAY, the picture looks different!  While Lotus and Microsoft advertise
|> > OS/2 spreadsheets, Borland is shipping an "upgrade" from Quattro 3.0 to 4.0
|> > which is _less_compatible_ with OS/2 than the previous version.  Borland
|> > technical support has no solutions, and they won't even refund the
|> > "upgrade" price because they "don't support OS/2".  Nothing about upcoming
|> > Borland OS/2 releases has been in the rags for weeks. 
|> > 
|> > It seems that either Borland is having difficulty porting their compiler to 
|> > OS/2, or that they have made a strategic decision to avoid OS/2.  Either 
|> > way, it's looking like it's time to make the decision to avoid Borland.
|> > 
|> > Comments, Hard Info, etc. is Welcome
|> > 
|> > Andrew S. Brush             | SMBRUSH@LIMS01.lerc.nasa.gov
|> > Sverdrup Technology         | 2001 Aerospace Parkway
|> > NASA LeRC Group             | Brook Park, OH 44142
|> > "Opinions are Mine, Only"   | (216) 826-6770
|> 
|> Borland C++ for OS/2 is in betatest as we speak..
|> 
|> If we avoid Borland and avoid Microsoft, there's not much left is there?
|> Hardly seems like a wise move..
|> 
|> al hart
|> 
Really in betatest ?! - where did you get this information from ?
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 08:50:12 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: TypeFast 1.1 with source available

Hi. I stored TypeFast 1.1 with full C (IBM C/SET 2) source on
earn-ps.circe.fr - this is my PC. It's available via anonymous ftp.

I also posted it to /pub/downloads to hobbes (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu).

The new file is actually smaller, because I changed the word dictionnary
file, and now using something shorter. I recommend you replace it with
your favorite text file - the one supplied is just too short now.

Regards, -turgut
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From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Terminal Emulator with HPFS support needed
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:26:49 GMT

In article <14psjeINN8tp@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (MacroMan) writes:
> I need a communications program that will download YModem Batch
>and supports long filenames with multiple periods.  Is this
>possible under HPFS?  If so, does anyone know of a program 
>that will support such a transfer?

Sipples replied:
> TE/2, a shareware communications program, does so.  You can get it via
> anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

There is also m2zmodem 2.11 on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  It does have a terminal
mode, but its main use is as an external x/y/z modem addition to other
comm programs. I've tested the zmodem, but there is a ymodem and ymodem batch.
This is from the author of the remote-software Os2You. m2zmodem is Shareware.
I can't use it with our vax for uploads, but it appears to be worth a look.
Note: I can't get 2.11 to work with the com16450.sys driver (usually used
in OS/2 1.3 for com3 support), but 2.09 will work on OS/2 1.3 and com16450.sys.

I use the very promising ckermit 5A(179), ported by Kai Uwe Rommel. m2zmodem
works well with this (although our vax has some problem with zmodem upload,
so I can't verify the upload portion of m2zmodem).

Now if Rommel could just find time to fix the vt102 emultation in ckermit...

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
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From: kotulla@scapa.ira.uka.de (Axel Kotulla)
Subject: Re: TeX for OS/2?
Keywords: TeX for OS/2
Reply-To: kotulla@scapa.ira.uka.de (Axel Kotulla)
Organization: RWTH Aachen, Deutschland
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:01:07 GMT

> Can anyone tell me if there is a TeX for OS/2 and perhaps where I
> can find it?

Allthough it is one of the most often asked questions, here is the answer:

The package emTeX by Eberhard Matthes can be found on the ftp-server

			rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de

There exists a directory
	
			/soft/tex/machines/pc/emtex/betatest

which consists texb5.zip with the TeX-package and dvidrv_14r.zip with
the necessary drivers.

Axel
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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: Printing problem with OS/2 GNUPLOT port
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:40:34 GMT

RHS@garnet.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:

>I have installed the OS/2 GNUPLOT port, which looks great, but I'm having 
>printing trouble. Specifically, my printer is a HP LJ III with PS cartridge. 
>If I only set up a PCL icon, then GNUPLOT is happy to print to the PCL 
>driver. However, if I also set a PS printer icon, even though I set the 
>default printer device to be LJIII in PCL mode, GNUPLOT insists on using the 
>PS driver.

>Another similar problem - Using the new DVIPM program, when I try to print a 
>page, it allows me to choose the printer device, except the only choice it 
>gives me is IBMNULL - not too useful.

>Does this problem affect others, or is it likely my OS2.INI is corrupted?

>Richard Stanton

I have a dj500c.  When I go to print and go thru the setup options on the
pmgnuplot it closes all of my windows and dies.  It prints fine if I just tell
it to print with the default printer.

If I install a postscript driver(I was hoping to postscript->file so I could
put the picture in a document) and then try to print I get this continuous
beeping sound untill I close the window.

I think the port is great.  I hope to use it more.  However, I would like to
be able to save the picture and put it in a document.  Is there any hope of
a windows metafile, CGM file, other vector file being added to it for output?
It would make a great publication tool to go with AmiPro, etc.

(I don't mean to sound unappreciative, I understand the work that goes into 
these things.  The above are only suggestions and comments.)

Thanks,
Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: gupw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Paul Wagland)
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:39:12 GMT

TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Objectvision for OS/2 for $500? 
>Don't say anything, but you can order it in the US direct from
>Borland for $99. 
>I realize $1US != $1NZ, but I don't think the ratio is 5:1.

Well here in Aus. They are prepared to sell us Objectvision for OS/2
*AND* OS/2 for A$295.  Considering that OS/2 normally retails for around
$220 (at least here in Perth). So that's reasonable if you don't yet own
OS/2.

Paul
-- 
Paul Wagland                       | These opinions are mine and no-one elses
gupw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au   | Bingy Bingy Bingy Frogs Go round and round
------------------------+     -- Another silly quote from me  :-)
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