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From: vandel@di.epfl.ch (Jean-Marc Vandel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Toshiba 1Gb disk
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:47:26 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi all !

Does anybody use a Toshiba 1Gb disk with Amix 2.1p2a ? Is there any
known problem with the SCSI driver like with some other drives ?

In fact, what are the currently supported >1Gb disk drives ? How about
magneto-optical drives and CD-ROMs ? Is there a list somewhere ?

Any help will be deeply appreciated ;-)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Organization: DigiBoard Inc., Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:28:04 GMT

In article <VANDEL.93Jan25163132@disuns2.epfl.ch>, vandel@di.epfl.ch (Jean-Marc Vandel) writes:
|> Are you really sure to use ufs ? I installed Amix 2.1 asking for an ufs root
|> partition, but when I did a 'showrdb' I was very surprised to see :
|> 
|> #    Name               Start   Blocks   Size      Flags
|> 								     
|>  1:  UNIX_Root            128   307200   150 MB    mb P0 C0 F0x554e4901
|> 								     ^^
	This is a screw up in the rdb part of the install script, if
	you are SURE you specified ufs in the install script you HAVE
	ufs. Just create a 16 character file name and see if it works.
	UNIX ignores this field of the RDB and so does ADOS so it's
	more for looks than anything else.

		-Rob
From: wintergr@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Wintergruen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Unix for A4000 ?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:53:21 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

Im looking for an UNIX Version for Amiga 4000, does somebody knoes, if there 
 is an PD Version like linux.

greetings
 Dirk Wintergruen
From: carl_f_hoffman@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: X11 on Amiga 3000 running amigaUnix
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:24:05 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


Hi,

	I am running X11 on my amiga3000 under amigaUnix. It is
	nice, but it is black and white. How do I get it to run
	in color?

Thanks,

Carl
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter)
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Organization: ICU - University of Zurich, Dept. of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:06:40 GMT

Jean-Marc Vandel (vandel@di.epfl.ch) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan23.182230.3822@rzu-news.unizh.ch>
: blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter) writes:
: >   it has, you guessed it, an *ufs* boot partition. We've yet to see a
: >   munged inode. 
: Are you really sure to use ufs ? I installed Amix 2.1 asking for an ufs root
: partition, but when I did a 'showrdb' I was very surprised to see :
: 								     
:  1:  UNIX_Root            128   307200   150 MB    mb P0 C0 F0x554e4901
: 								     ^^
: Yes, that's an s5 partition ! There must be a bug in the install script :-(

The DosType entry doesn't matter at all. We entered RESV as the DosType
for all our ufs partitions without any problems.

: Now, what's the easiest way to reformat this partition in ufs without having to
: reinstall everything ? Is it worth the time spent ?

Are you sure your partition is s5? Don't believe the DosType ;-)

Regards
--Martin

--
Martin A. Blatter - blatter@ifi.unizh.ch, blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
From: zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Kernel panic fun
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:59:49 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

Kernel panics are fun, so I thought I'd share my fun with you all in
case anyone can shed some light on a possible cause:

4.0 2.1c 0800430 BACKTRACE: 
40001a8c: 78431f0->785e12b  
40001a9c: 78433cc->78431ec  
40001ab8: 7843770->78432a2  
40001ac8: 785ff0e->7843764  
40001b00: 785ef6e->785fe90  
40001b3c: 78011d2->785ec6c  
40001ddc: 786b326->784ff9a
40001e18: 7864422->indir    
40001ecc: 785f63c->indir    
40001f24: 785f0d2->785f4b2  
40001f70: 78011ee->785f002  
c07ff9d4:

I'm running 2.1p2a with serial and symbolic backtrace patches added.
Obviously the symbolic backtrace isn't enabled at the moment...

Anyway, I'd be interested to know if anyone can get any useful
information out of this.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: dejones@gandalf.ca (David E. Jones)
Subject: Re: Unix for my A4000?
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:16:07 GMT

In <93020.013311CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>Currently Unix will not work on 68040 based machines. CBM isn't upgrading UNix
>to work on them either. Thats what they are telling the dealers.

At the World of Commodore in Toronto in December, I asked Lew Eggebrecht about thit
this.  He told me the same thing.  I guess you just have to wait for Linux :-)

Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: skrenta@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rich Skrenta)
Subject: Re: Trashed root floppy?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:08:11 GMT

Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**) writes:
> My only problem is that after I typed "make", I got the following errors:
>  
> s5 mkfs: Cannot open /usr/amiga/etc/atdevs
> mkfs: Available blocks = 84
> Error code 1 (bu21)
> make: fatal error

The atdevs line in the proto file (/usr/amiga/src/cmd/ID/proto) is wrong.
Point it at /usr/amiga/lib/atdevs instead of /usr/amiga/etc/atdevs.
You should see atdevs in your /usr/amiga/lib.

--
Rich Skrenta
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: X11 on Amiga 3000 running amigaUnix
Organization: DigiBoard Inc., Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:25:11 GMT

In article <74330@cup.portal.com>, carl_f_hoffman@cup.portal.com writes:
|> 	I am running X11 on my amiga3000 under amigaUnix. It is
|> 	nice, but it is black and white. How do I get it to run
|> 	in color?
|> 
	You could try the color command... B^). You are limited to
	2 colors displayed at a time though, 1 bitplane limitations.

	I'd say you'd have to buy a chunky graphics card since X
	absolutly HATES bitplane based graphics systems and you take major
	performance hits trying to hack around this.

	Alternately, buy and X terminal or a PC + xterm software. The
	cheepest solution is probably to get a PC with X terminal software
	and a network card.

		-Rob
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Wanted: AmigaUnix2.1
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:34:47 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

AmigaUnix 2.1.  Price negotiable
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
From: r_moore@vger.nsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Unix for my A4000?
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:07:29 EDT

In article <93020.013311CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> Currently Unix will not work on 68040 based machines. CBM isn't upgrading UNix
> to work on them either. Thats what they are telling the dealers.
  According to my dealer, Video Computer Resource Chesapeake VA, they have
begun working on the '040 version
From: kaiser@ira.uka.de (Michael Kaiser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Linux on the Amiga ?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 08:12:12 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: i60s15.ira.uka.de

Hello everyone !

recently I was told that there is a Linux version for the Amiga in the works
right now. Also, a preliminary (linux000a.tar.Z) release of the part is
supposed to exist. However, I've not been able to find this archive (or
something similar).
Therefore, the questions: Are people working on the Linux port ?
Who are they, and how can they be supported ? Does a mailing list exist to
keep in touch with the development or - even better - is the work that's
to be done intented to be shared, i.e. would it be helpful to try to
bring people together who could contribute to the work ?

What's the story ? Does anybody know more ? The 0.99 source needs quite a
lot of work in order to run on my favourite machine ... :-)

Regards, Michael

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From: zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:07:56 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey) writes:
>	ufs boot partitions are only poison on < 2.1, for 2.1 AmigaUNIX it is
>	the only way to go.

Interestingly, this was running Amiga UNIX 2.1. And somewhat less
interestingly IT JUST DID IT AGAIN! Under patch level 2a as well!
Argh! More random files disappearing, more fun with lost+found :-(

It's only ever done it on the system partition, though. Never the news
one, despite the fact that both are getting thrashed pretty hard (I
run a multi-user system).

*sigh*

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|      zik@zikzak.apana.org.au      |  the candle flame, the larger the  |
|          Michael Saleeba          |  diameter of the surrounding       |
|                                   |  darkness"  - Robyn McNamara       |
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: Unix for my A4000?
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:31:07 GMT

In article <3116.2b5eca41@vger.nsu.edu>, r_moore@vger.nsu.edu writes:
|> In article <93020.013311CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
|> > Currently Unix will not work on 68040 based machines. CBM isn't upgrading UNix
|> > to work on them either. Thats what they are telling the dealers.
|>   According to my dealer, Video Computer Resource Chesapeake VA, they have
|> begun working on the '040 version
|> 
	Were's the official C= representitive that will explicitly state
	this? This is still rumor mill if it comes from a dealer.
	
	C= itself doesn't have the in house talent to do an '040 UNIX port
	although there has been a person who's been trying to get things moving.

	If an '040 port IS being worked on then it must be contracted out to
	a third party. Anybody have any idea who that might be? Hopefully
	they'll profile and tune the kernel in addition to adding the
	'040 VM module. It would be interesting to see how they handle
	the page table problem inherent in the '040, you have to have
	the whole smash in memory as opposed to the partially in memory
	capability of the 68885(?) and '030. I know the 4k page size
	problem was licked a while back so it's the floating point
	library and the VM module that would be the lion's share of
	headache in an '040 port. Where DO you put the floating
	emulation? In kernel mode or user mode? You'd think user mode
	so you don't take the hit of entering/exiting supervisory mode
	but can the floating trap be handled totally in user mode?

	Additionally, ALOT of the code in AmigaUNIX hasn't been recompiled
	since 2.0, the lp subsystem for one, and there would probably be
	a mess involved with fixing subsystems so they would work properly
	with an '040 at the helm, and gcc 1.4x...

	Well, time will tell who's full of it and who isn't...

		-Rob
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
Subject: Re: Unix for my A4000?
Organization: DigiBoard Inc., Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:20:02 GMT

In article <Bradb.0ox1@nesbbx.rain.COM>, Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**) writes:
|> Oh, and in a (possibly) related development, C= no longer sells the 3
|> button mouse used in the A3000UX.  A sign?  I don't know, all I know is
|> that I wanted one. :-(
|>  
	Not surprising since 3000's and 2000's are history, i.e. when the
	current stock runs out in the US, that's all there is there ain't
	no more. The situation outside the US might be different. From what
	I've heard C= US doesn't want anything but 1200's and 4000's. I wouldn't
	mind so much if they had a UNIX ready for the 4000... B^(.

	I agree, I think 2 button mice are EXTREMELY braindead the only thing
	worse is 1 button mice...

	I HATE that new cheepo microsoft clone mouse C= is foisting off on
	us these days, it feels like crap and looks even worse. I want the
	pregnent 2 and 3 button versions back!

	Anybody know how to make a mouseman work with an Amiga Port? I assume
	it can't since it's serial based. B^(.

		-Rob
p.s.
	For those of you lamenting the 2000's death, I hear there's a 4000
	toaster waiting in the wings when the 2000 toaster supplys are gone!
	Supposedly it has a Zorro III connector so all I/O doesn't have to
	go through the video slot. Anybody else heard anything more about
	this?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: paul@wellserv.atl.ga.us (Paul Wells)
Subject: Re: X11 Unusable under AMIX??
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:27:11 GMT
Organization: Wells Services Company Limited

In <Bradb.0oce@nesbbx.rain.COM> Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**) writes:


>I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who responded with the
>suggestion to use the "hjkl" keys to scroll around in vi.
> 
Or, you could use a .exrc which contains 'set notimeout' and the arrow keys
will work consistently.  I forget the attribution to this solution; the man
page for ex doesn't mention this option.
-- 
Paul Wells			paul@wellserv.atl.ga.us
From: Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: 'Proper' filesystem distribution
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27d beta (Jan 09 1993)
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:15:33 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System


(I wanted to follow-up to something rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey)
said about Amiga Unix not liking / and /usr on seperate file sytems but I
can't seem to find the article so here goes...)
 
What is the 'proper' distribution of filesystems assuming that you have
several drives, each of (approximately) the same access times?
 
I've got a 300MB and 2 150MB drives and I'm wondering how I should split
out the file systems to get the best performance.  (I'm getting a 600MB
disk from work for Usenet and to keep sources on, so I'm just thinking
about the basic stuff on the other drives...)
 
Unix people at work suggested the following distribution:
 
150MB  /
150MB  /usr
300MB  /home
 
Any comments?  Is this bad?  Good?  (Also recommended to have a swap
partition on *each* drive equal to the amount of 'real' memory)
 
Is it possible (and desirable?) to have multiple swap partitions, each on
seperate drives?
 
Any help you can give me would be *deeply* appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Brad.

-- 
Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM
From: zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:14:02 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter) writes:
>amiga.physik is probably the busiest Amix machine in the world. And
>it has, you guessed it, an *ufs* boot partition. We've yet to see a
>munged inode. The boot partition is probably being fsck'ed 4 times
>a week (due to frequent reboots). Maybe we were just lucky, but I'd 
>rather suspect that you had media problems or a broken version of
>the ufs. Do you use Amix 2.1 with all patches applied?

I'm running 2.1p2a. My system's pretty busy too, but I doubt that it
approaches amiga.physik. That disk is probably ok - it's a Quantum 425
and I've had no problems on other partitions, even when it was
partitioned differently.

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|          -|-   Zik   -|-          | "Every cloud has its cloud and     |
|      zik@zikzak.apana.org.au      |  every silver lining can be        |
|          Michael Saleeba          |  melted down and sold."            |
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From: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com (Keith Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:20:43 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@pamsrc.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.


Along the same line of questions...

How does one take files in lost+found and place them back where
they were? All I can determine is the original owner of the file,
not the filename or original ditrctory.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jhp3x@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey Howard Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: X11 on Amiga 3000 running amigaUnix
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:53:59 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>	I'd say you'd have to buy a chunky graphics card since X
>	absolutly HATES bitplane based graphics systems and you take major
>	performance hits trying to hack around this.
>
>	Alternately, buy and X terminal or a PC + xterm software. The
>	cheepest solution is probably to get a PC with X terminal software
>	and a network card.
>
>		-Rob

I know that several people have asked this question before - but this
thread came up again in applications - 

Rumor (who listens to these anymore :-) has it that C= might release a
new version of AUX that support 040 and possible better X resolution
through AGA - now I have a 3000 (but hopefully I can get an AGA card
for it whenever those come out) ---- and I want to know if ANYONE has
heard ANYTHING... ??? Anyone?? 


Also - will stuff written for SVR4 (i.e. Word Perfect for UNIX) work
on my A3000UX?? (Perhaps I should have included this in a separate
post - I apologize - but hey - I just hate to waste screen space...


Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Subject: Re: Kernel panic fun
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Organization: Edwards & Edwards Consulting

zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba) writes:
>4.0 2.1c 0800430 BACKTRACE: 
>40001a8c: 78431f0->785e12b  
    .
    .
>40001f70: 78011ee->785f002  
>c07ff9d4:
>
>I'm running 2.1p2a with serial and symbolic backtrace patches added.
>Obviously the symbolic backtrace isn't enabled at the moment...
>
>Anyway, I'd be interested to know if anyone can get any useful
>information out of this.

Not really.  If you can guarantee that you're running a stock kernel
then those addresses would match up with anyone else's who also runs a
stock kernel.  But I tweak mine all the time, so I can't help.  Sorry.
(Enable the symbolic backtraces -- one of the coolest things Keith has
done.)

>|        -|-   Zik   -|-         | "You begin to understand politics when |

-- 
Frank "Crash" Edwards          Edwards & Edwards Consulting
Fax:  813/786-6526             crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com, but please
Home: 813/786-3675             don't ask UUNET to route it -- it's sloooow.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: CTLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Less Unix support
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:58:47 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Well here is more bad news. Paul Van Reid who was one of the last people at
Commodore who knew anything about Amiga unix was just fired. Which shows how
much they are really supporting Unix. But don't go complaining because gail
fleisher of customer satisfaction was also fired. So there is no one to
complain to. I guess I blew $5000.00 on a dead machine.
From: Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: Re: Trashed root floppy?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27d beta (Jan 09 1993)
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:59:54 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System


skrenta@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rich Skrenta) writes:
> Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM (**) writes:
> > Can I "regenerate" another set of boot floppys?
> 
> You make make a root floppy from source:
> 
 
Thank you *very* much for this info.  If I had known it was that easy to
copy disks I wouldn't be in this position.
 
My only problem is that after I typed "make", I got the following errors:
 
s5 mkfs: Cannot open /usr/amiga/etc/atdevs
mkfs: Available blocks = 84
Error code 1 (bu21)
make: fatal error
 
Is this something simple I overlooked or am I in trouble?
 
(But I did duplicate the boot disk ok, thanks!)
 
Thanks again,
 
Brad.

-- 
Bradb@nesbbx.rain.COM
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter)
Subject: Re: ufs boot partitions are certain death!
Organization: ICU - University of Zurich, Dept. of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:22:30 GMT

Michael Saleeba (zik@zikzak.apana.org.au) wrote:
: rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey) writes:
: >	AmigaUNIX does not like / and /usr being on seperate file systems
: >	so keep / and /usr on the same filesystem. Preferably ufs.
: Well I can't say I'd recommend ufs for a boot partition. I've been
: messing with Amiga UNIX for around a year now and I've always had this
: creeping problem with inodes just randomly being munged. As the system
: has been getting busier (it's public access) the problem has been
: getting worse.
[...]
: The moral of the story - DON'T USE ufs BOOT PARTITIONS! THEY ARE POISON!

amiga.physik is probably the busiest Amix machine in the world. And
it has, you guessed it, an *ufs* boot partition. We've yet to see a
munged inode. The boot partition is probably being fsck'ed 4 times
a week (due to frequent reboots). Maybe we were just lucky, but I'd 
rather suspect that you had media problems or a broken version of
the ufs. Do you use Amix 2.1 with all patches applied?

--Martin

-- 
Martin A. Blatter - blatter@ifi.unizh.ch, blatter@amiga.physik.unizh.ch