From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Moderation (was pentagrams)
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:53:58 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

bwilson@eng.auburn.edu (Brian Scott Wilson) writes:

> 
> This is in response to  Hadrian MKA william D. Jones's article.
> 
> For those poeple who feel the same way as this fellow, Please open your eyes,
> your mouth. This is not the Society for Cults of America. Let us, as a non-re
> group, present ourselves to the rest of Society as a group of intelligent rat
> people who happen to enjoy the artificial medieval-like society that we have 
> There is a reason, beyond bowing down to the religious zealots that threaten 
> for us to maintain a conservative outward appearance.
> 
ok, we're not the society of cults.  granted.  but peopel get to run 
around dripping with christian stuff.  some of us ARE pagans and DO haev 
pagan personae.  do you want the gay SCAers not to hold hands in public 
because someone might not like it too?

> For one I would venture that except for a creative/romantic vein, most of us 
> are mainstream, or would like to be viewed as such. As a result that which br
> SCA to bad light also affects us- as people in our mundane life. This means o
> our religious life and our social life outside the SCA.  My parent as members
> Southern Baptist Church (in all that implies) have more than a few problems e
> my wargamming as an adolecent, and now my participation in the SCA. Both grou
> have had a bad light brought on them due to the actions of a few. 
> 
*shrug*  i almost hate to be callous, but that is YOUR problem.  some of 
us have broken free fo our repressive families and really don't CARE what 
the southern baptists think of us and have NO intention of living their 
lives wondering when they are going to complain.  they're complaining 
already.  the fact that fundamentalist and other chirstian loonies hate 
me and mine is part of life.  i have no respect for people who want to 
get in good withe the people who want me to quite literally DIE.

> On another note, When I first joined the SCA in Hattiesburg, Mississippi the 
> dying (only the senechal and one other person was active, the senechal writin
> brought my friends into this wonderful game and lent an air of legitamacy to 
> So what was the problem? Well, a girl attending the university there, it seem
> into black majic or some such and was very into letting people know about it.
> point of climbing up on the roof of the dorm at night to do her stuff. This g
> also claimed she was in the SCA, which according to everyone who I knew who h
> active there, was not true. The stygma attached to the SCA there was very hea
> many years to overcome. Face it, no one wanted to be associated with a group 
> someone like this b--witch in it.
> 
sounds like your university was a bunch of cowards to me...  or just a 
bunch of clueless fucks.  mpost people who woudl join the SCA already 
knwo enough about it to know that it isn't a satanist ortganization.  and 
you don't even know what it was she was into.  someoen said "black 
magick" and it stuck...

> The Society as a whole faces this problem. If we want to go about our lives a
> people, if we want to involve other good productive members in our society, i
> like to keep enjoying the game as we are playing it, we need to appear to the
> legitamate organization for normal people, not a pagan cult who practices rit
> with wooden swords.
> 
and making the nice normal PAGAN members of the society invisible will 
sell us to the mundanes.  lovely.  remind me if i ever want to be a white 
bread amerikkkan...  some of us live our entire lives as peopel the 
fundies hate.  and we even manage to haev jobs and housing and friends 
and family and everything.  keeping the fundioes off someone else's case 
is not something i worry about.  and i'm not going to spend the rest pof 
my life ducking and covering because people i knwp might have fundy 
relatives...

                                       -ailsa
                                        a.k.a. Walburga Ingsdottir

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