From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Originator: jsue@pluto.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:43:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.202426.29752@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>I think that part of the reason for the success
>of this trend is that the clothing designers have an easier time displaying
>their designs to best advantage on skinnier (flatter) women, simply because
>they have less of the curves that might otherwise affect the shape of the
>garment as worn.

Well, I half-remember something in photography about the "beauty" in
the S-curve.  Hence the popularity of renderings of things with curves
(ie., they are pleasing to the eye).  For example, photos or paintings
of "smooth" curves in creeks, rivers, roads, rolling hills, animals,
and *people*.  This had always been seen as "goodness" in the judging
of works of art.  In fact, I sort of remember something about the
ancient greeks and romans being somewhat obsessed with the human form
in their art.

It just may be that our current passion for curvey, slim figures is
merely an extension of those ideas and practices.  However, this has
nothing to do with individual insecurities that lead them to
obsessiveness over trying to look "perfect" (at least, their
definition of perfection).

There is no basis for the contention that I have to be responsible for
other's reactions to my actions (excluding things like yelling FIRE in
a public place).  Particularly when the reaction is something that's
completely irrational.



Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company

In article <1992Nov5.202426.29752@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>I think that part of the reason for the success
>of this trend is that the clothing designers have an easier time displaying
>their designs to best advantage on skinnier (flatter) women, simply because
>they have less of the curves that might otherwise affect the shape of the
>garment as worn.

Well, I half-remember something in photography about the "beauty" in
the S-curve.  Hence the popularity of renderings of things with curves
(ie., they are pleasing to the eye).  For example, photos or paintings
of "smooth" curves in creeks, rivers, roads, rolling hills, animals,
and *people*.  This had always been seen as "goodness" in the judging
of works of art.  In fact, I sort of remember something about the
ancient greeks and romans being somewhat obsessed with the human form
in their art.

It just may be that our current passion for curvey, slim figures is
merely an extension of those ideas and practices.  However, this has
nothing to do with individual insecurities that lead them to
obsessiveness over trying to look "perfect" (at least, their
definition of perfection).

There is no basis for the contention that I have to be responsible for
other's reactions to my actions (excluding things like yelling FIRE in
a public place).  Particularly when the reaction is something that's
completely irrational.







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