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050 Date: 18 Dec 92 14:09:00 GMT
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050 From: usc!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buf
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050 Subject: ComTek phased arrays
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 Does anyone have any experience with the performance, operation or
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050 installation of the ComTek phased array system for Folded Sloping
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050 dipoles (80 m)?
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050  
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050 Reference: CQ Magazine, Dec. 1989, p 42-45.
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050  
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050 73, Dave.
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:44:58 PST
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050 From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!oneb!ham
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050 Subject: DXers
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
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050  
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050 > zslf08@trc.amoco.com (Steven L. Farmer WA5RPF) says:
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050 >
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050 > In article <BXTJVB2w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca>, emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
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050 > [stuff deleted...]
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050 > > DX'ers are pests. They are noisy, rude and inconsiderate. (And that's not
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050 > > even mentioning the cheats who use lists).
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050 >
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050 > You simply don't hear the dxers who refrain from boorish behavior.  We are
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050 > most assuredly in the majority, and it's a mistake to generalize from the
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050 > rudeness of a few to insult all of us.  Our world has an ample supply of
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050 > bigotry already.  Please don't add more.
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050 > ---------------------
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050 >
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050 > Steve is right.  You hardly ever hear Real[tm] DXers on the air.   They
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050 > lurk, listen, tune around, pounce, then repeat ad lib.  I spend perhaps
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050 > 2 mins out of every hour actually transmitting, and the rest listening.
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050 >
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050  
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050 What I dislike most about DX'ers in general, not just the rude and/or
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050 crude ones, is the effect thay have had on ham radio in general. Instead
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050 of encouraging people to reach out to each other, to learn about
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050 different customs, cultures and ways of life, dxing (and its attendant
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050 cousin, contesting) encourages many of the bad things in ham radio. A
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050 "win at all costs" attitude often seems to be coupled with a complete
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050 disinterest in the other ham except as a trophy for the wall. The whole
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050 Dxing/contesting crowd has infested ham radio with over zealous, overly
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050 competitive hams who will seemingly stop at nothing to get that little
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050 pasteboard.
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050  
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050 > What I find inconsiderate is the people who get on 20m SSB in the morning
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050 > to discuss the weather with friends in the next state, right on top of a
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050 > DX station that you can only hear for half an hour at that time of day,
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050 > and then many dB below the chattering.  It's so depressing to tune the
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050 > band for Asian stations, and have to listen to OFs ragchewing over their
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050 > first cup of coffee.
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050 >
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050  
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050 Why? Two OF's (your generalization, BTW) ragchewing over coffee are
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050 probably a lot more entertaining than hearing another UR 59 QSL via the
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050 buro contact anyway. You want to prevent two hams from talking to each
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050 other because they're taking up space on the band that you'd rather use
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050 to get a pasteboard card from some guy in Asia - and that you'll probably
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050 spend a couple of minutes on in total ?
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050  
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050 It's exactly this sort of egotistical reaction from DX'ers (who regard
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050 everything not DX as somehow not worth bothering about) that makes me
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050 regard DX'ers as pests who are ruining our hobby.
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050  
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050 > I would love to see a band plan that restricted same-continent QSOs to
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050 > one section of the band, leaving another part for intercontinental QSOs.
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050 > I'm not optimistic that it would ever work, of course.
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050 >
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050  
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050 Neither am I. The same DX'ers that ignore band edges, etc under the
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050 present rules would surely ignore these as well. Or are you proposing
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050 DX'er free zones? :-)
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050  
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050 > Anyway, as Steve says, it is ridiculous to judge a whole class of people
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050 > by the excesses of the few.  I wonder what has happened to logic when I
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050 > read the periodic posts that say "all the people causing trouble on 14313
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050 > are Extras, proving that the cw tests are meaningless".  It's like he
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050 > Europeans believing that all Americans are rich, simply because the only
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050 > ones they see are the ones rich enough to travel to Europe.
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050 >
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050  
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050 The excesses of the few are natural outgrowths of a sub-culture within
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050 ham radio that encourages contests and awards based on the NUMBER of
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050 contacts one has with other hams, instead of the quality of the contacts.
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050 That rudeness, intolerance for non-DX'ers, and a willingness to violate
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050 the rules grows out of that sub-culture shuld not surprise anyone.
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050  
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050 > Anyway, the Real DX is done on cw, so nyah nyah.
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050 >
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050 Who said anything about mode? I've had some very nice ragchews on CW.
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050  
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050  
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050  
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050 Robert Smits  VE7EMD Ladysmith B.C.
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050 Ph (604) 245-2553 e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
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050 PACKET VE7EMD@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NA
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: 18 Dec 92 15:13:16 GMT
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050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
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050 Subject: hams: IC-R1  vs. IC-R100
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 HELP!
504 HELP topic unknown
050 I am going to purchase either a handheld or mobile scanner and so far I've
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050 narrowed the field down to ICOM R1 or R100.  I don't care abouyt the freq.
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050 range differences or the # memories, I am more concerned with reception
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050 and ease of operation.  Either one would be used only in my home or car,
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050 so the handheld would only give me an easier to move/hide from thieves unit
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050 right?  or wrong?
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050 Will one of these give me better reception ( givin the same antenna of course)
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050 Any advice is greatly appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
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050 reply to   murphym@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: 18 Dec 92 14:32:55 GMT
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050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
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050 Subject: Help with Cable ID
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 >I picked up a few lengths of cable that I'm trying to figure out.  It
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050 >was on some kind of computer system (old mini, I assume), and doesn't
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050 >appear to have any standard RG type numbering.
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050 >
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050 >It's a simaese pair of two seperate pieces of coax, one has BNC connectors
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050 >(female) on both ends, and the other piece has TNC connectors (female) on
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050 >each end.
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050 >
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050 >The labeling is as follows:
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050 >
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050 >Wang Labs Inc  420-0057  E-41663  UL  AWM  Style 20063  80C  300V
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050  
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050 This was cable used to connect a Wang workstation to it's file server (example
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050 would be a Wang Office Information System).  The two different connectors are
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050 for separating input and output of the workstation (believe this is called the
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050 "928" interface).  It's probably 93 ohms because i dimly recall the coax is
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050 really RG-62.
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050  
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050 Due to corporate data processing standards of the day, we
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050 used to have a sizeable amount of Wang stuff. it was reliable, but Wang quit
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050 writing new software for the old systems (and you "Alliance" guys know what
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050 that was like...Indexing!) and the new stuff (the Professional Computer) was
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050 only partially hardware compatible (the disks fit in the slots) and software
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050 compatible (norton utils would run on 'em w/o a special version) with the IBM
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050 market.
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050  
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050 Then I could mention that the "transparent" document transfer from VS to OIS
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050 to Alliance to WPS to PCWP and back had lots of booby traps and discontinuties
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050 that made rekeyboarding easier.  Turned out it was only transparent between
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050 exact systems (VS to VS, for example.  PCWP to VS didn't work well because the
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050 PCWP was dumbed down to avoid competing with the big system [no stop code for
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050 one, no document headers, etc.]) and things were "damaged" when you went
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050 between dissimilar machines (the comm software would add/delete things it
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050 didn't think should go - end up with parts lists that read like:
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050  
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050 	Res, cc, 47kL, 10%, 1/4W.....
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050 	Cap, cer, 0.1mF, 20%, 50V....
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050  
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050 and there was something about search and replace that made it difficult to fix
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050 up the data - i forget what - probably the stop codes that needed to be there
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050 to make font changes work).
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050  
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050 it finally reached a point where improvements existed for 3rd party software
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050 we were using, but not in a Wang version.  We dumped the Wang stuff and bought
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050 clone IBM PCs and a banyan lan and haven't looked back.
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050  
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050 73, bill wb9ivr
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:47:39 GMT
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050 From: swrinde!gatech!gsusgi1.gsu.edu!gsusgi1.gsu.edu!regmad@network.UCSD.EDU
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050 Subject: Info on Yaesu FT726?
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 R0264@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
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050  
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050 >In ARRL Handbook, 1989, The ft726 is described as an example of using
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050 >transversion for multimode vhf and uhf, with an if of 28 Mhz, for a
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050 >rig that has both vhf, uhf, and hf at 10 and 15 meters.  Looks like
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050 >a good idea, but how come Yaesu no longer offers such a rig?
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050 >Are they available used? -- and at what kind of price? -- and is
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050 >there something wrong with the whole concept?
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050 >Phil, WD8IZA
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050  
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050  
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050  
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050 	The idea is still around in their newer 736 .. Modules
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050 	for 50MHZ,220,1.2GHZ  and includes 144 and 440 stock.
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050 	This is an expensive rig and I would love to have one.
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050  
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050 		30 Watts	50MHZ
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050 		60 Watts	144,220,440
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050 		45 Watts	1.2 GHZ
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050  
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050 	I instead purchased a 726 wth just the 144 module and
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050 	plan to add the duplexer, 10M,440 modules as soon as
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050 	I can find them. I paid $500 (used) for the unit which when
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050 	compared to the other used single band SSB UHF/VHF radios
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050 	was a fair deal.
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050  
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050 	I still have not located or priced any modules but hope
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050 	to locate a dead 726 full of modules..
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050 	
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050  
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050      _______  ______
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050     /        /        /       /    Michael A. de Kraker
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050    /        /______  /       /     Georgia State University  404-651-2390
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050   /    ___        / /       /      Internet:REGMAD@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU
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050  /_______/ ______/ /_______/       BITNET  :REGMAD@GSUVM1  PACKET:KD4FKW@W4QO
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050  
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050    To iterate is human, to recurse devine
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050  
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050  
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050 	
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: 18 Dec 92 15:45:38 GMT
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050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
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050 Subject: License delays
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 >...the lam-o excuse I got from the FCC was that they only had 2 people
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050 >processing applications for both amateur *and* business licenses and only *1*
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050 >keyer to punch it all into the computer.
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050  
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050 And at least one of them is kept busy answering phone calls.  "Madam,
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050 do you want me to process your license or answer phone calls?"  :-)
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050 In the "good old days", at age 14, I got to ride a Greyhound bus 80
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050 miles, find the Federal Building in downtown Cincinnati where the test
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050 was offered quarterly, take the General exam including one minute of
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050 clear copy and a sending test--no wimpy multiple choice code test, find
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050 my way back home, do my homework from the day's school I missed and
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050 still wait two months for my upgrade (and all they had to do was change
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050 KN4 to K4).  Message:  Things are indeed not optimum now, but they
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050 could be a lot worse and they probably won't get a lot better.
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050 	73
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050 	Jack, K4FRS  (ex KN4FRS)
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050 	buchanan@bme1.utmem.edu
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050 PS:  I'll bet they put applications from people who call and bug them
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050 on the bottom of the stack :-)
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:18:20 GMT
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050 From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!waco@network.U
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050 Subject: Military method for CW proficiency and learning???
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 In article <14133@pogo.wv.tek.com> tcmaint@pogo.wv.tek.com (TeleCo
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050 Maintenance) writes
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050  
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050 >	I took morse code training in the Army Security Agency, Fort Devens,
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050 >Mass. and we would copy code for 7-8 hrs a day in one to one and one half
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050  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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050   Boy, it was fun, wasn't it? :-)
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050  
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050 >hour sessions with a 10-15 minute break. Due to luck or lack there of I
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050 >first got into there computer generated morse code class and that was
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050 >alot better than copying on `mills' (manual type writers).
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050 >	My personal feelings are if you want to increase your code speed,
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050 >once you know the characters start increasing the speed once you are copying
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050 >65-75% of the characters. That way you are allways pushing yourself and
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050 >somewhat avoid the plateaus(sp) like we ran into in the Army. Boy, 15 WPM/
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050 >GPM was a bear.
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050  
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050   Good advice.
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050  
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050   Just a couple of other tips for increasing speed in conjunction with this.
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050  
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050     1.  Try copying the next speed higher than the one you want to achieve
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050         immediately before you practice the speed you are working for.  It
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050         makes the speed you are working for seem slower.  It also can help
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050         compensate for the "nervous" factor taking a test.  When I worked on
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050         my extra updgrade, I would try to copy 25 wpm from the W1AW practice
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050         sessions followed by 20 wpm.  At first, I could maybe copy 20% at
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050         25 wpm but, it did make 20 wpm seem slower.  By the time I was ready
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050         for the test, I could maybe copy 25 wpm at about 70 - 80%, but was very
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050         comfortable at 20 wpm.  Now, if I had just gotten a license just after
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050         being in the service, I could still copy fast code.  However, I really
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050         don't need it for my microphone :-) :-).
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050  
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050     2.  For those working on slower speeds, 5 wpm, 10 wpm, etc. -- don't waste
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050         your time copying 5 wpm when the code is sent both at 5 wpm spacing
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050         and 5 wpm character speed.  You then have to make 2 adjustments as you
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050         move up in speed: 1) the character sound changes as the speed increases
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050         and 2) the shorter interval between characters.
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050  
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050 	Example, 5 wpm character speed and spacing (A):
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050  
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050 	   diit daaaah       diit daaaah
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050  
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050 	Example, 5 wpm spacing only
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050  
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050 	   didah             didah
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050  
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050         I think that character speed of about 13 to 15 wpm is pretty ideal
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050         and common with lots of code practice tapes you can get.  Doing it
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050         this way means the tone/pitch/sound of the characters don't change,
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050         they just get closer together as you increase in speed.  It really
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050         makes a big difference.
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050  
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050         Then, of course, when you finish your last code test, you simply put
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050         your key or keyer in the drawer (to keep if from getting dusty), plug
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050         in your microphone and yell CQ DX, CQ DX.  Just joking folks!  I
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050         do occasionaly listen in the lower parts of the bands, but all I
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050         hear is a bunch of beeps all over the place.  Don't understand it.
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050  
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050         As you can tell, I am a phone operator.  However, I think CW is
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050         great and I had lots of fun with it when I was a novice and then a
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050         tech.  Enjoy, regardless of mode you use!!
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050  
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050 >	Just my $.02 worth.
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050         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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050  
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050         And with my $.02 worth, that makes it $.04 worth of advice for
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050         free -- what a bargain!
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050  
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050  
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050 >Terry Burge,
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050 >KI7M
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050  
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050  
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050 John L. Broughton
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050 AT&T
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050 Naperville, IL
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050 john.l.broughton@att.com
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050 att!john.l.broughton
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050  
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050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:57:50 GMT
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050 From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
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050 Subject: NASA SELECT
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050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
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050  
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050 Does anyone know a NASA select freq in the amateur bands for New York City
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050 area?
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050 I have heard it on out Long Island 448.425 i think it was, i could be wrong
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050 :)
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050  
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050 Thanks much.
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050 Mike
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050 WB2ZLW
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050  
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050 ***********************************************
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 **** "Of course TV is a medium,            ****
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 ***    It's not rare,                       ***
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 ***     And it's certainly not well done."  ***
500 Unknown command, '*'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 18 Dec 92 14:04:40 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Tandy Programs Needed "HELP!!"
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Merry Christmas Brother and Sister Hams:
500 Unknown command, 'Merry'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Here I am again with another request for help.
500 Unknown command, 'Here'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 NO FLAMES FOR THIS PLEASE, THE SYSTEM WAS FREE
500 Unknown command, 'NO'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 I have a Tandy 1000 EX <Yep an old 264K Slower than 7 year Itch computer>
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 and I have been looking for an FTP node or someplace to get Ham related
500 Unknown command, 'and'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 programs as well as MSDOS Systems Software  <My 2.11.44 got ZAPPED the other
500 Unknown command, 'programs'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 night>  and can anybody tell me if "SUPER MORSE 3.16 " will run on my
500 Unknown command, 'night'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 machine <GOD I HOPE SO!!!!> My kids are driving me nuts because I don't
500 Unknown command, 'machine'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 have a Morse Program that will run on the Tandy 1000 EX.
500 Unknown command, 'have'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Please NO FLAMES about the Tandy computer  at least I didn't have to pay
500 Unknown command, 'Please'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 anything for it.
500 Unknown command, 'anything'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 8-)  I LOVE AMATEUR RADIO.....
500 Unknown command, '8'
050      I LOVE MY WIFE...........
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050      Which comes first ?
500 Unknown command, 'Which'
050      I value to much MY LIFE.
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050      So It has to be
500 Unknown command, 'So'
050      MY WIFE.
500 Unknown command, 'MY'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 '73's'
500 Unknown command, '''
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Tim Wright  KD4OVM
500 Unknown command, 'Tim'
050 BITNET:  WRIGHT@morekypr.BITNET
500 Unknown command, 'BITNET'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:00:57 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: infonode!ingr!msdhsv!monty.b17b.ingr.com!greg@uunet.uu.net
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Worked All States blues...
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In article <1992Dec17.204119.26157@wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 |>
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> I have finally done it!  After six years of operating, I have gotten cards
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> from 49 states, with one more in the mail.  The two big thorns in my side
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> were Delaware and West Virginia.  However, I thought I had it licked when
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> my fiancee and I went up to her parents' house in NE Pennsylvania, and I
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> brought my HF rig.  Many QSOs, INCLUDING WV and DE.
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |>
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> So today I'm looking at the WAS application rules, trying to find out costs,
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> where to send stuff, etc., and what do I read?
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |>
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |>   "All QSOs must be made from the same location, or such that any two
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> operating locations are a maximum of 50 miles apart."
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |>
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> Chris' parents' house is 200 miles from here, and I have never even heard a
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> West Virginia or Delaware station from here in Maryland.  Too far for ground-
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> wave, too close for skip.
500 Unknown command, '|'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Depending upon band requirements and propagation at any one time, your final
500 Unknown command, 'Depending'
050 summary is true.  But it can be overcome in various ways.
500 Unknown command, 'summary'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 You fail to tell us what bands you are using, are you trying to do it all on
500 Unknown command, 'You'
050 one band?
500 Unknown command, 'one'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 I suspect that on 40 and/or 80 meters you should easily work WV and DE.
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 On 20 meters, where I've spent 12 years trying to work all 3076 counties, the
500 Unknown command, 'On'
050 ground wave zone is usually in the 10 mile range.  But the minimum skip distance
500 Unknown command, 'ground'
050 varies widely, both during the sunspot cycle and during the day.  When it is
500 Unknown command, 'varies'
050 nice and short (good for county hunting) you can make contacts inside 100 miles.
500 Unknown command, 'nice'
050 But it can lengthen out over 1000 miles, as it normally does at night and during
500 Unknown command, 'But'
050 sunspot minima.
500 Unknown command, 'sunspot'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 A low mounted dipole (or other horizontially polarized antenna) for a high
500 Unknown command, 'A'
050 radition angle is what you need for these short contacts.
500 Unknown command, 'radition'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 73 es good hunting,
500 Unknown command, '73'
050 Greg  AC4WF (ex-N5FSW)
500 Unknown command, 'Greg'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  Gregory Montllor   Mapping Sciences / System Integration & Implementation
500 Unknown command, 'Gregory'
050  mailstop IW17B4    Intergraph Corp.  Huntsville, Alabama  35894-0001
500 Unknown command, 'mailstop'
050  (205) 730-7249     greg@monty.b17b.ingr.com    or   ingr!b17b!monty!greg
500 Unknown command, '('
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 18 Dec 92 15:45:00 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Worked All States blues...
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Scott, NF3I writes:
500 Unknown command, 'Scott'
050 > Chris' parents' house is 200 miles from here, and I have never even heard a
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > West Virginia or Delaware station from here in Maryland.  Too far for ground-
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > wave, too close for skip.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > Can anyone help?  Or at least tell me that you know of a Rhode Island station
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > that couldn't get Connecticut...
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > 73, still those two states to go...Shoot...
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 You might try the Century Club net (7.233.5 or 3903.5 Mhz) or the
500 Unknown command, 'You'
050 Geritol net (I've forgotten the frequency but it's in the extra
500 Unknown command, 'Geritol'
050 class portion of the 75 meter band).  They often have West Virginia
500 Unknown command, 'class'
050 and Delaware and it should be a easy to get them from Connecticut
500 Unknown command, 'and'
050 (much easier than it was for me in California).
500 Unknown command, '('
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Good Luck and 73's
500 Unknown command, 'Good'
050    Linda Stocks, AA6MR              pols0@ais.ucla.edu
500 Unknown command, 'Linda'
050                                     aa6mr@wb6wfh#soca.ca.usa
500 Unknown command, 'aa6mr'
050                   Eschew obfuscation
500 Unknown command, 'Eschew'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 18 Dec 92 12:48:00 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: swrinde!gatech!prism!ccoprfm@network.UCSD.EDU
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Yaesu 530 and Alinco DJ-580
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Hello,
500 Unknown command, 'Hello'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050  I'm sure the new super-wiz-bang Yaesu hand-held was talked about here back
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 when it was introduced. At the time I wasn't in the market for a new ht. I am
500 Unknown command, 'when'
050 now since someone decided they needed my radio more than I did and removed it
500 Unknown command, 'now'
050 from my car without bothering to ask me... :-(
500 Unknown command, 'from'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050  I now have the chance to get either the Alinco DJ-580 or the new Yaesu FT-530.
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 HRO here in Atlanta got 10 of the new Yaesu's in yesterday and they only have
500 Unknown command, 'HRO'
050 one left now.
500 Unknown command, 'one'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050  What I need is either a place where I can find an archived article or two
500 Unknown command, 'What'
050 about the Yaesu or someone else who has one to tell me a little about it. I have
500 Unknown command, 'about'
050 the marketing glossy for the Alinco, but the Yaesu is new enough that HRO here
500 Unknown command, 'the'
050 in Atlanta doesn't have any yet.
500 Unknown command, 'in'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050  I have to give HRO an answer by about noon Eastern time today (12/18/92), so
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 if this message gets off my site and to anyone who can help out, I'd really
500 Unknown command, 'if'
050 appreciate it....
500 Unknown command, 'appreciate'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050     Thanks and 73,
500 Unknown command, 'Thanks'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050    KC4GPW
500 Unknown command, 'KC4GPW'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 Monte Freeman  --  Operations Department / Information Technology
500 Unknown command, 'Monte'
050 Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
500 Unknown command, 'Georgia'
050 Internet: ccoprfm@prism.gatech.edu
500 Unknown command, 'Internet'
050 Bitnet:   ccoprfm@gitvm1.bitnet
500 Unknown command, 'Bitnet'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 End of Info-Hams Digest V92 #1333
500 Unknown command, 'End'
050 ******************************
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 .
500 Unknown command, '.'

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Info-Hams Digest            Fri, 18 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue 1333

Today's Topics:
                        auto battery?  bounced
                 Clever phonetics/WN3K- love'm! More!
                         ComTek phased arrays
                                DXers
                       hams: IC-R1  vs. IC-R100
                          Help with Cable ID
                         Info on Yaesu FT726?
                            License delays
          Military method for CW proficiency and learning???
                             NASA SELECT
                    Tandy Programs Needed "HELP!!"
                 Worked All States blues... (2 msgs)
                     Yaesu 530 and Alinco DJ-580

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:22:27 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!chemabs!vjh21@network.UCSD.E
Subject: auto battery?  bounced
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

My attempt to respond bounced

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 08:22:26 EST
From: vjh21 (Vince Herried ext 2877)
Message-Id: <9212181322.AA23132@cas.org>
To: rrw@.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Subject: Re: auto battery?


Check out the mag Consumer's Reports.  They review car batterys
scientificly.  They several samples of each brand and type
and then subject them each to a series of tests.

One thing interesting in their last review, they tell how to read
the manufactures date codes.  I fergit the exact situation but
apparently an individual went to buy a replacment for his 4 year
old battery and the dealer attempted to sell him one that was
more than 4 years old.  The date code indicates the date of
manufacture and not the silly dates one sees on foods like
best when used by ....  Or even stupider Best when purchased by ...

I'm sorry I don't remember the names of any mentioned in the review.
If I did, I would give them to you.  I'm in a mentropolitan area of
almost 1 million and I was not able to find the brand I wanted when
my batterys time came.  I settled for a Sears even though they
did not do well in that years review.

gud luck
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:52:56 GMT
From: udel!louie!pecan.cns.udel.edu!penneys@cs.rochester.edu
Subject: Clever phonetics/WN3K- love'm! More!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

What can I say - such brilliance abounds here.

It's hard to resist -

Walk North 3 Kilometers

We Neutered 3 Klansman

Who Needs 3 Kids

etc.

In your spare cerebral moments, if you have any more, I'd love to hear'em.


Will return the favor.

Winners will be notified thru Internet and appropriate prizes concocted.

Have a great holiday and fecund 93.

CU   Bob WN3K   FRC
.

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Date: 18 Dec 92 14:09:00 GMT
From: usc!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buf
Subject: ComTek phased arrays
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Does anyone have any experience with the performance, operation or
installation of the ComTek phased array system for Folded Sloping
dipoles (80 m)?

Reference: CQ Magazine, Dec. 1989, p 42-45.

73, Dave.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:44:58 PST
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc.ca!oneb!ham
Subject: DXers
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:

> zslf08@trc.amoco.com (Steven L. Farmer WA5RPF) says:
>
> In article <BXTJVB2w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca>, emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
> [stuff deleted...]
> > DX'ers are pests. They are noisy, rude and inconsiderate. (And that's not
> > even mentioning the cheats who use lists).
>
> You simply don't hear the dxers who refrain from boorish behavior.  We are
> most assuredly in the majority, and it's a mistake to generalize from the
> rudeness of a few to insult all of us.  Our world has an ample supply of
> bigotry already.  Please don't add more.
> ---------------------
>
> Steve is right.  You hardly ever hear Real[tm] DXers on the air.   They
> lurk, listen, tune around, pounce, then repeat ad lib.  I spend perhaps
> 2 mins out of every hour actually transmitting, and the rest listening.
>

What I dislike most about DX'ers in general, not just the rude and/or
crude ones, is the effect thay have had on ham radio in general. Instead
of encouraging people to reach out to each other, to learn about
different customs, cultures and ways of life, dxing (and its attendant
cousin, contesting) encourages many of the bad things in ham radio. A
"win at all costs" attitude often seems to be coupled with a complete
disinterest in the other ham except as a trophy for the wall. The whole
Dxing/contesting crowd has infested ham radio with over zealous, overly
competitive hams who will seemingly stop at nothing to get that little
pasteboard.

> What I find inconsiderate is the people who get on 20m SSB in the morning
> to discuss the weather with friends in the next state, right on top of a
> DX station that you can only hear for half an hour at that time of day,
> and then many dB below the chattering.  It's so depressing to tune the
> band for Asian stations, and have to listen to OFs ragchewing over their
> first cup of coffee.
>

Why? Two OF's (your generalization, BTW) ragchewing over coffee are
probably a lot more entertaining than hearing another UR 59 QSL via the
buro contact anyway. You want to prevent two hams from talking to each
other because they're taking up space on the band that you'd rather use
to get a pasteboard card from some guy in Asia - and that you'll probably
spend a couple of minutes on in total ?

It's exactly this sort of egotistical reaction from DX'ers (who regard
everything not DX as somehow not worth bothering about) that makes me
regard DX'ers as pests who are ruining our hobby.

> I would love to see a band plan that restricted same-continent QSOs to
> one section of the band, leaving another part for intercontinental QSOs.
> I'm not optimistic that it would ever work, of course.
>

Neither am I. The same DX'ers that ignore band edges, etc under the
present rules would surely ignore these as well. Or are you proposing
DX'er free zones? :-)

> Anyway, as Steve says, it is ridiculous to judge a whole class of people
> by the excesses of the few.  I wonder what has happened to logic when I
> read the periodic posts that say "all the people causing trouble on 14313
> are Extras, proving that the cw tests are meaningless".  It's like he
> Europeans believing that all Americans are rich, simply because the only
> ones they see are the ones rich enough to travel to Europe.
>

The excesses of the few are natural outgrowths of a sub-culture within
ham radio that encourages contests and awards based on the NUMBER of
contacts one has with other hams, instead of the quality of the contacts.
That rudeness, intolerance for non-DX'ers, and a willingness to violate
the rules grows out of that sub-culture shuld not surprise anyone.

> Anyway, the Real DX is done on cw, so nyah nyah.
>
Who said anything about mode? I've had some very nice ragchews on CW.




Robert Smits  VE7EMD Ladysmith B.C.
Ph (604) 245-2553 e-mail: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
PACKET VE7EMD@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NA



------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 92 15:13:16 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: hams: IC-R1  vs. IC-R100
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

HELP!
I am going to purchase either a handheld or mobile scanner and so far I've
narrowed the field down to ICOM R1 or R100.  I don't care abouyt the freq.
range differences or the # memories, I am more concerned with reception
and ease of operation.  Either one would be used only in my home or car,
so the handheld would only give me an easier to move/hide from thieves unit
right?  or wrong?
Will one of these give me better reception ( givin the same antenna of course)
Any advice is greatly appreciated!  Thanks in advance!
reply to   murphym@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil

------------------------------

Date: 18 Dec 92 14:32:55 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Help with Cable ID
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>I picked up a few lengths of cable that I'm trying to figure out.  It
>was on some kind of computer system (old mini, I assume), and doesn't
>appear to have any standard RG type numbering.
>
>It's a simaese pair of two seperate pieces of coax, one has BNC connectors
>(female) on both ends, and the other piece has TNC connectors (female) on
>each end.
>
>The labeling is as follows:
>
>Wang Labs Inc  420-0057  E-41663  UL  AWM  Style 20063  80C  300V

This was cable used to connect a Wang workstation to it's file server (example
would be a Wang Office Information System).  The two different connectors are
for separating input and output of the workstation (believe this is called the
"928" interface).  It's probably 93 ohms because i dimly recall the coax is
really RG-62.

Due to corporate data processing standards of the day, we
used to have a sizeable amount of Wang stuff. it was reliable, but Wang quit
writing new software for the old systems (and you "Alliance" guys know what
that was like...Indexing!) and the new stuff (the Professional Computer) was
only partially hardware compatible (the disks fit in the slots) and software
compatible (norton utils would run on 'em w/o a special version) with the IBM
market.

Then I could mention that the "transparent" document transfer from VS to OIS
to Alliance to WPS to PCWP and back had lots of booby traps and discontinuties
that made rekeyboarding easier.  Turned out it was only transparent between
exact systems (VS to VS, for example.  PCWP to VS didn't work well because the
PCWP was dumbed down to avoid competing with the big system [no stop code for
one, no document headers, etc.]) and things were "damaged" when you went
between dissimilar machines (the comm software would add/delete things it
didn't think should go - end up with parts lists that read like:

	Res, cc, 47kL, 10%, 1/4W.....
	Cap, cer, 0.1mF, 20%, 50V....

and there was something about search and replace that made it difficult to fix
up the data - i forget what - probably the stop codes that needed to be there
to make font changes work).

it finally reached a point where improvements existed for 3rd party software
we were using, but not in a Wang version.  We dumped the Wang stuff and bought
clone IBM PCs and a banyan lan and haven't looked back.

73, bill wb9ivr

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:47:39 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!gsusgi1.gsu.edu!gsusgi1.gsu.edu!regmad@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Info on Yaesu FT726?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

R0264@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:

>In ARRL Handbook, 1989, The ft726 is described as an example of using
>transversion for multimode vhf and uhf, with an if of 28 Mhz, for a
>rig that has both vhf, uhf, and hf at 10 and 15 meters.  Looks like
>a good idea, but how come Yaesu no longer offers such a rig?
>Are they available used? -- and at what kind of price? -- and is
>there something wrong with the whole concept?
>Phil, WD8IZA



	The idea is still around in their newer 736 .. Modules
	for 50MHZ,220,1.2GHZ  and includes 144 and 440 stock.
	This is an expensive rig and I would love to have one.

		30 Watts	50MHZ
		60 Watts	144,220,440
		45 Watts	1.2 GHZ

	I instead purchased a 726 wth just the 144 module and
	plan to add the duplexer, 10M,440 modules as soon as
	I can find them. I paid $500 (used) for the unit which when
	compared to the other used single band SSB UHF/VHF radios
	was a fair deal.

	I still have not located or priced any modules but hope
	to locate a dead 726 full of modules..
	

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   /        /______  /       /     Georgia State University  404-651-2390
  /    ___        / /       /      Internet:REGMAD@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU
 /_______/ ______/ /_______/       BITNET  :REGMAD@GSUVM1  PACKET:KD4FKW@W4QO

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Date: 18 Dec 92 15:45:38 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: License delays
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

>...the lam-o excuse I got from the FCC was that they only had 2 people
>processing applications for both amateur *and* business licenses and only *1*
>keyer to punch it all into the computer.

And at least one of them is kept busy answering phone calls.  "Madam,
do you want me to process your license or answer phone calls?"  :-)
In the "good old days", at age 14, I got to ride a Greyhound bus 80
miles, find the Federal Building in downtown Cincinnati where the test
was offered quarterly, take the General exam including one minute of
clear copy and a sending test--no wimpy multiple choice code test, find
my way back home, do my homework from the day's school I missed and
still wait two months for my upgrade (and all they had to do was change
KN4 to K4).  Message:  Things are indeed not optimum now, but they
could be a lot worse and they probably won't get a lot better.
	73
	Jack, K4FRS  (ex KN4FRS)
	buchanan@bme1.utmem.edu
PS:  I'll bet they put applications from people who call and bug them
on the bottom of the stack :-)

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:18:20 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!waco@network.U
Subject: Military method for CW proficiency and learning???
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <14133@pogo.wv.tek.com> tcmaint@pogo.wv.tek.com (TeleCo
Maintenance) writes

>	I took morse code training in the Army Security Agency, Fort Devens,
>Mass. and we would copy code for 7-8 hrs a day in one to one and one half
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Boy, it was fun, wasn't it? :-)

>hour sessions with a 10-15 minute break. Due to luck or lack there of I
>first got into there computer generated morse code class and that was
>alot better than copying on `mills' (manual type writers).
>	My personal feelings are if you want to increase your code speed,
>once you know the characters start increasing the speed once you are copying
>65-75% of the characters. That way you are allways pushing yourself and
>somewhat avoid the plateaus(sp) like we ran into in the Army. Boy, 15 WPM/
>GPM was a bear.

  Good advice.

  Just a couple of other tips for increasing speed in conjunction with this.

    1.  Try copying the next speed higher than the one you want to achieve
        immediately before you practice the speed you are working for.  It
        makes the speed you are working for seem slower.  It also can help
        compensate for the "nervous" factor taking a test.  When I worked on
        my extra updgrade, I would try to copy 25 wpm from the W1AW practice
        sessions followed by 20 wpm.  At first, I could maybe copy 20% at
        25 wpm but, it did make 20 wpm seem slower.  By the time I was ready
        for the test, I could maybe copy 25 wpm at about 70 - 80%, but was very
        comfortable at 20 wpm.  Now, if I had just gotten a license just after
        being in the service, I could still copy fast code.  However, I really
        don't need it for my microphone :-) :-).

    2.  For those working on slower speeds, 5 wpm, 10 wpm, etc. -- don't waste
        your time copying 5 wpm when the code is sent both at 5 wpm spacing
        and 5 wpm character speed.  You then have to make 2 adjustments as you
        move up in speed: 1) the character sound changes as the speed increases
        and 2) the shorter interval between characters.

	Example, 5 wpm character speed and spacing (A):

	   diit daaaah       diit daaaah

	Example, 5 wpm spacing only

	   didah             didah

        I think that character speed of about 13 to 15 wpm is pretty ideal
        and common with lots of code practice tapes you can get.  Doing it
        this way means the tone/pitch/sound of the characters don't change,
        they just get closer together as you increase in speed.  It really
        makes a big difference.

        Then, of course, when you finish your last code test, you simply put
        your key or keyer in the drawer (to keep if from getting dusty), plug
        in your microphone and yell CQ DX, CQ DX.  Just joking folks!  I
        do occasionaly listen in the lower parts of the bands, but all I
        hear is a bunch of beeps all over the place.  Don't understand it.

        As you can tell, I am a phone operator.  However, I think CW is
        great and I had lots of fun with it when I was a novice and then a
        tech.  Enjoy, regardless of mode you use!!

>	Just my $.02 worth.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        And with my $.02 worth, that makes it $.04 worth of advice for
        free -- what a bargain!


>Terry Burge,
>KI7M


John L. Broughton
AT&T
Naperville, IL
john.l.broughton@att.com
att!john.l.broughton

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:57:50 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
Subject: NASA SELECT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Does anyone know a NASA select freq in the amateur bands for New York City
area?
I have heard it on out Long Island 448.425 i think it was, i could be wrong
:)

Thanks much.
Mike
WB2ZLW

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Date: 18 Dec 92 14:04:40 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Tandy Programs Needed "HELP!!"
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Merry Christmas Brother and Sister Hams:

Here I am again with another request for help.

NO FLAMES FOR THIS PLEASE, THE SYSTEM WAS FREE

I have a Tandy 1000 EX <Yep an old 264K Slower than 7 year Itch computer>

and I have been looking for an FTP node or someplace to get Ham related

programs as well as MSDOS Systems Software  <My 2.11.44 got ZAPPED the other

night>  and can anybody tell me if "SUPER MORSE 3.16 " will run on my

machine <GOD I HOPE SO!!!!> My kids are driving me nuts because I don't

have a Morse Program that will run on the Tandy 1000 EX.

Please NO FLAMES about the Tandy computer  at least I didn't have to pay

anything for it.

8-)  I LOVE AMATEUR RADIO.....
     I LOVE MY WIFE...........
     Which comes first ?
     I value to much MY LIFE.
     So It has to be
     MY WIFE.

'73's'

Tim Wright  KD4OVM
BITNET:  WRIGHT@morekypr.BITNET

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:00:57 GMT
From: infonode!ingr!msdhsv!monty.b17b.ingr.com!greg@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Worked All States blues...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Dec17.204119.26157@wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard
|>
|> I have finally done it!  After six years of operating, I have gotten cards
|> from 49 states, with one more in the mail.  The two big thorns in my side
|> were Delaware and West Virginia.  However, I thought I had it licked when
|> my fiancee and I went up to her parents' house in NE Pennsylvania, and I
|> brought my HF rig.  Many QSOs, INCLUDING WV and DE.
|>
|> So today I'm looking at the WAS application rules, trying to find out costs,
|> where to send stuff, etc., and what do I read?
|>
|>   "All QSOs must be made from the same location, or such that any two
|> operating locations are a maximum of 50 miles apart."
|>
|> Chris' parents' house is 200 miles from here, and I have never even heard a
|> West Virginia or Delaware station from here in Maryland.  Too far for ground-
|> wave, too close for skip.

Depending upon band requirements and propagation at any one time, your final
summary is true.  But it can be overcome in various ways.

You fail to tell us what bands you are using, are you trying to do it all on
one band?

I suspect that on 40 and/or 80 meters you should easily work WV and DE.

On 20 meters, where I've spent 12 years trying to work all 3076 counties, the
ground wave zone is usually in the 10 mile range.  But the minimum skip distance
varies widely, both during the sunspot cycle and during the day.  When it is
nice and short (good for county hunting) you can make contacts inside 100 miles.
But it can lengthen out over 1000 miles, as it normally does at night and during
sunspot minima.

A low mounted dipole (or other horizontially polarized antenna) for a high
radition angle is what you need for these short contacts.

73 es good hunting,
Greg  AC4WF (ex-N5FSW)

--
 Gregory Montllor   Mapping Sciences / System Integration & Implementation
 mailstop IW17B4    Intergraph Corp.  Huntsville, Alabama  35894-0001
 (205) 730-7249     greg@monty.b17b.ingr.com    or   ingr!b17b!monty!greg

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Date: 18 Dec 92 15:45:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Worked All States blues...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Scott, NF3I writes:
> Chris' parents' house is 200 miles from here, and I have never even heard a
> West Virginia or Delaware station from here in Maryland.  Too far for ground-
> wave, too close for skip.
>
> Can anyone help?  Or at least tell me that you know of a Rhode Island station
> that couldn't get Connecticut...
>
> 73, still those two states to go...Shoot...
>

You might try the Century Club net (7.233.5 or 3903.5 Mhz) or the
Geritol net (I've forgotten the frequency but it's in the extra
class portion of the 75 meter band).  They often have West Virginia
and Delaware and it should be a easy to get them from Connecticut
(much easier than it was for me in California).

Good Luck and 73's
   Linda Stocks, AA6MR              pols0@ais.ucla.edu
                                    aa6mr@wb6wfh#soca.ca.usa
                  Eschew obfuscation

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Date: 18 Dec 92 12:48:00 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!prism!ccoprfm@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Yaesu 530 and Alinco DJ-580
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hello,

 I'm sure the new super-wiz-bang Yaesu hand-held was talked about here back
when it was introduced. At the time I wasn't in the market for a new ht. I am
now since someone decided they needed my radio more than I did and removed it
from my car without bothering to ask me... :-(

 I now have the chance to get either the Alinco DJ-580 or the new Yaesu FT-530.
HRO here in Atlanta got 10 of the new Yaesu's in yesterday and they only have
one left now.

 What I need is either a place where I can find an archived article or two
about the Yaesu or someone else who has one to tell me a little about it. I have
the marketing glossy for the Alinco, but the Yaesu is new enough that HRO here
in Atlanta doesn't have any yet.

 I have to give HRO an answer by about noon Eastern time today (12/18/92), so
if this message gets off my site and to anyone who can help out, I'd really
appreciate it....

    Thanks and 73,

   KC4GPW


--
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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