HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dtalmage@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Imponderables
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:27:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Aug18.152428.28723@unislc.uucp>, dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
> There's a book named "Why Clocks Run Clockwise and other Imponderables"
> by David Feldman.  He's sort of a Cecil wanna-be.  He tries to be funny

>  -- Washington D.C. streets are named alphabetically;  why is there
>     no J street?
> 
> 1) J is easily confused with I
> 2) Pierre L'Enfant and other city designers hated John Jay, first
>    Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Gee, in a class on English Phonology, I learned it was because the 
letter J hadn't made it into common usage in the English alphabet.   
Would someone who's up on the history of orthography shed some light 
here, please?

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From: jrs@zippy.unet.com (John Switzer Frame 3.0)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: "You're so vain" - Carley Simon. Who i
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:08:14 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

By the way, you guys discussing this song will probably want to 
know the *original* title of this song - "You're so stupid, you 
probably don't think this song is about you." The meter of the 
words didn't match the tune, though, and that's why Simon changed
it. Really. Honest.
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From: rodney@magritte.ipl.rpi.edu (Rodney Peck II)
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:03:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.011031.18757@bert.eecs.uic.edu> artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes:
>	Some more:
>	Some Officers Have Curly Auburn Hair To Offer Attraction
>	(sin/cos/tangent)

tom's old aunt sat on her coffin and howled

or that famous indian chief "SOATOHCAH" (pronounced so-a-toe-ka)
tan = opp / adj
sin = opp / hyp
cos = adj / hyp

have we done the resistor color code?

bad boys rape only young girls, but violet gives willingly
black brown red orange yellow green blue violet gray white

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From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Co-ed Dorms!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:55:58 GMT

Over here at SFU, 2 of the 3 dorms are coed. No one seems to have a
problem with that except for some of the parents/relatives who come
to visit. The men are pretty good about not using the open urinals
(unless there's a big party on or something, and all the toilet
stalls are occupied. Heard a couple of stories about women using
the urinals during some of the larger parties, all unconfirmed.)

The main problem seems to be (as always) a constant battle over
leaving the toilet seat up or down. 

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
Forum (Cog Sci); Senate; CDSU; ASC. ...but all opinions are my own only.

I'll go anywhere with you; just wrap me up in chains. --Shakespeare's Sister
From: maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:41:49 GMT
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center

In article <BsvKD8.881@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc)
writes:
>snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>>>If someone is murdered and it is captured on film, who cares what the 
>>>motivations for the murder or the filming of it were?  
>
>> The victim, the victim's family, and the police, for starters.
>
>Totally irrelevant to this discussion.  Ive already conceded that *some*
>of
>the scenes in FoD are recreations, but there is a clip at the end of one
>of them in which a girl is murdered on film for the sole purpose of
>making
>a training video for the other cultists.  Yes, the girl was kidnapped and
>killed for the =sole= reason of murdering her for a video.  

What does this mean? What were they allegedly being trained in? How to kill
people?

Maynard Handley
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From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Subject: Cost of phone service (was Re: Modem tax back)
Keywords: long distance telephone service
Reply-To: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:29:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.211954.19466@ssc.wa.com> tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook)  
writes:

[long discussion of rates and costs of telephone service deleted]

Some years ago a telco employee told me it cost AT&T more to run the
billing computers (which punched a 3-inch wide paper tape, so you know it
really was some years ago) late at night, and process the bills, than it  
brought in in revenue.  In other words, AT&T would have made more money if they  
had simply shut off the long-distance billing between, say, midnight and 4:00  
A.M. and let anyone call for free.

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Man put in kill file no longer annoys AFU.
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:18:58 GMT

What if you put someone in a kill file just in order to tell the net
about it?
-- 
/|/-\/-\       In real life, the Vice President chastises Murphey Brown
 |__/__/_/     for her morals.  Bill Clinton plays the sax on "Arsenio
 |warren@      Hall."  Though "Batman Returns" is fiction, it's not too
/ nysernet.org much stranger than truth - Caryn James, The New York Times
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From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James c Copeland)
Subject: Re: Gulf Vet Illness
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:58:16 GMT

I heard one report that it was caused by an experimental anthrax vaccine 
(this particular report mentioned army guard units from Indiana).

jc

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From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Misapplied Physics in advertising, more  (was Re: Faces of death)
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date: 16 AUG 92 22:16:08    


In article <1992Aug12.043801.13380@news.columbia.edu>, 
  lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes...

>cjl (I understand it's obligatory to mention Snopes somewhere in your article)
>    (Or was that KIBO?)

 No, the hope is that if you *don't* mention snopes, he'll go away.

 - snopes

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From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:59:50 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>Yea, WPXI (Channel 11 in Pittsburgh) carried it in it's entirety at first.
>They later (after some complaints, I suspect) edited it to show Bud pulling 
>the gun out.  It *was* aired.

I never saw this clip, so Id like to ask, did he say anything before he
did this, or did he just pull the gun out and fire?  Was he being heavily
interrogated at the time?  Look nervous just prior, or did he just do it 
in a matter-of-fact way?
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From: dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright)
Subject: Re: Oh Yea, We'll So's Yer Old Man!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:24:08 GMT

TJ Wood (tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu) wrote:
:                                                ....... people who
: can't debate but merely come back with the line:
: 
:                  "Well, that's just YOUR opinion".
:                  
: Roy did a really great send up of this.  He called it "The last gasp of
: the defeated".  I wondered if anyone know of any other snappy comebacks
: that kids (or even adults) use ......

Kids:
-------
"I'm rubber and you're glue.  Everything you say
 bounces off me and sticks to you."

"I'm right and you're wrong.  NO SAY BACKS!"

"If you're so smart, why do you wear stupid clothes?"

"Liar liar pants on fire!  Hangin' from a telephone wire!"

"My dad can beat up your dad"

"Get out of my yard!"


Adults:
-------

"I'll see you in court!"

"Get out of my office!"

"You'll look pretty funny saying that with no FUCKIN' TEETH!"

"Commie bastard!  You go against everything that America
 stands for!  I've got God on my side!"


From George Carlin:
-------------------
"Fuck you, just ....  just fuck you.
 Fuck you and everybody who *looks* like you."

[I get a hoot out of this primitive, hostile idea of thoroughly
damning not only your adversary but everyone who *vaguely reminds*
you of your adversary]

  -- Dan Wright
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Help me identify this Mcdonaldland character
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:00:27 GMT

>In article <199208131612.AA4921@comm.Tandem.COM> PORTIGAL_STEVE@TANDEM.COM writes:
>>there used to be Grimus, Ronald, Hamburglar, Mayor McCheese, and this
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^

I would just like to pedantically point out that this should be a
"Hamrobber."

Ted "I knew law school was good for something" Frank
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             the university of chicago law skool, chicago, illinois
             you can't throw me to the lions -- i'm charlton heston
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: KFC
Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Aug17.153427.11356@rchland.ibm.com> Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it.  writes:
>Somewhere (FOAF maybe??) I heard that Harlan Sanders, upon sampling a
>drumstick of the then new "extra crispy" KFC said, "Like a grease-ball
>on a stick."  I'm sure KFC would hate something like this to get out, 
>but is there any truth to it?

I don't know about the quote, but I do know that he hated the "extra 
crispy" recipe. I read this in a newspaper article about him
from years ago, somewhat before his death.  I remember him condemning
it in fairly strong terms. He was an old dude, had already made his bucks and
had nothing to lose. He'd sold out his interest in KFC by the late
'60s.  He stayed on as paid spokesman for years after, though. 


Jim Jones
From: sander@cwi.nl (Sander Plomp)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:53:17 GMT

jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes:

>>What does this mean? What were they allegedly being trained in? How to kill
>>people?

>In a word, yes.  Apparently these cultists have to kill people a certain way
>in order to make use of the heads / parts in their rituals.

Now it would be nice to have some more information on this, since some
months ago there was a discussion on cults going around on a.f.u. Or was
it rec.games.frp? Anyway, the bottom line was that the standard "ritual
sacrifice of babies" cult was an urban legend without any real evidence of
ever really occuring.
-- 
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From: robert@jetsun.weitek.COM (Robert Plamondon)
Subject: Re: Penicillin Priorities
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 04:01:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.124625.14698@husc3.harvard.edu> joltes@husc8.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes) writes:
>[concept of sending back dead/wounded soldiers to demoralize enemy...]
>
>One that I heard along these lines was that during the American Revolution
>the colonials (especially harriers) would often rub musket balls with garlic,
>then wound a few enemy soldiers in a column with them.  This was done when a
>unit was on the move, since (according to the story) the garlic acted as a
>muscle inhibitor, necessitating that the wounded be carried since they could
>not move on their own.  This slowed the column and allowed the Americans time
>to gather more troops and attack.

Pure fantasy.  The whole thing supposes a level of precision shooting and
advance preparation that you just don't get on the battlefield.  Besides,
it's the kind of namby-pamby crap you get out of armchair warriors.  In
the field, people would just kill the damn Redcoats and be done with it,
not try smartass tricks with garlic cloves.  

	-- Robert
-- 
    Robert Plamondon, robert@weitek.COM

"But that was just one of the many times I died!"
    -- Baron Munchausen
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From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: Eskimo words for snow
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:08:03 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.060235.17070@news.columbia.edu> travis@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Travis Lee Winfrey) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.084431.1203@guvax.georgetown.edu> dtalmage@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
>>
>>It's not yet time to change the FAQ.  Here's why.  If you pronounce 
>>all of the Eskimo snow "words", you'll probably hear them fall into 
>>two classes.  One bears some similarity to 'qanik' (snow in the air),  
>>the other to 'aput' (snow on the ground).  Linguists say that the 
>>words in the two classes are related morphologically to one of those 
>>two roots.  This is the heart of the argument that debunks the Eskimo 
>>N Words For Snow myth.
>
>I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.  The words may be related
>morphologically, but that doesn't make them them somehow identical
>words.  If two Inuit words x and y connote different things about
>snow, particularly if those things can only be expressed with short
>phrases in English, then that seems sufficient to call them different
>words.  Obviously, I'm not including morphological changes that give
>them a different grammatical role, but I don't see that in the "soft
>snow"/"overhanging lip of snow" meanings that were given.


From an article posted by snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes):

>Ah, I found it:
>
>_The Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax_ (and other irreverent essays on the study
> of language)  Geoffrey K. Pullum, University of Chicago Press, 1991.
> ISBN 0-226-68533-0
>
> " . . . But the truth is that the Eskimos do *not* have lots of different
>words for snow, and no one who knows anything about Eskimo (or more accurately,
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>about the Inuit and Yupik families of related languages spoken by Eskimos from
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Siberia to Greenland) has ever said they do.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The confusion seems to be at least partly due to the fact that we are
talking about a *GROUP* of related languages, not one "Eskimo" language.

It's sort of like saying that Europeans have X number of words for "one:"
one, un, une, uno, eine, odin, jedna, etc.  They are all related words that
mean the same thing.


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From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: Elvis Lives!!!
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:05:53 GMT

pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes
(This is actually something that should be on the archive site;

What archive site? and Where?
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From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: Man put in kill file no longer annoys AFU.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:51:21 GMT

warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:

>What if you put someone in a kill file just in order to tell the net
>about it?

You guessed it, the FBI showed up the other day to arrest me for
making SNUFF files.  I understand the senate will be hearing testimony
regarding the harmful effects of USENET access soon...

:)
Heath

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On Saturday, April 18, 1992, this .sig became self-aware.

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Help me identify this Mcdonaldland character
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:33:52 GMT

In article <C4b-=l-@engin.umich.edu> thumper@engin.umich.edu (Bob Topping) writes:
> "jungle gym" of sorts that you can climb inside of, that is modeled after
> him...

I have recently seen at Burger King a giant partially inflated hamburger
shaped shaking "ride" for kids called the Whopper Hopper.  Anyone know
anything about this?  (From BK or a local vendor, etc.?)

cj "I'll have it my way, which is to eat at home" l
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bsu53D.7zD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc) writes:
> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>>What's the name of the film?  Which video stores rent it?  Have you told
>>your local police force?

> The names of the films are Faces of Death, I thru IV.  I cant answer your
> second question; check your local stores.  Im puzzled by your third...why
> would I want to do that?  The films are completely legal.

Pardon moi!  I thought you had located snuff films where people are
murdered on film.  Scotland Yard is still looking for some of these.

Terry "I knew some baseball players who used snuff" Wood
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From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:23:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.215611.25387@adobe.com> hawley@adobe.com (Steve Hawley) writes:
>In article <8167.3199@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) writes:
>>Amazingly enough, you can indeed fail a California driving
>>test.  I knew one woman who failed it *five times.*  When they
>>finally passed her, some of us theorized that it was because
>>the testers were too terrified to ride with her again, and
>>decided to get her out of their office.
>
>For the record, my oldest brother (Hi Mike!) managed to flunk the New Jersey

I have an Aunt who I'm sure was the idea behind the Ma character in Every Which
Way But Loose.

I think she failed the driving test in nearly every testing facility in
the region. She finally convinced some state drone that she could drive, but
the lady is/was scary to drive with (I don't think she drives anymore).
She could never figure out the dynamics of making a turn. We'd always end
up in the wrong lane or jump over the curb enter a driveway.
-- 
Jerry Gaiser
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From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson)
Subject: Re: apples to teachers - idea why
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:22:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.181012.12222@avernus.com> mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank) writes:
>In article <992Aug9.005056.274@bcrka45.bnr.ca> seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson) writes:
>>Kids give apples to teachers because they start school in the fall
>>when apples are abundant.  They give flowers to teachers in the 
>>spring.
>
>Or perhaps the whole thing is just an urban legend.  Does anyone out
>there *actually know* (or even have a FOAF) of a student who gave an
>apple to a teacher or a teacher receiving an apple from a student?
>
>As far as I can tell, it survives only in the phrase "apple for the
>teacher" and, most likely, in various cartoons.
>
>Marc "I've never seen it so it mustn't be true" Frank

Last September, I watched, with my very own eyes, as a child in my
son's music class gave the teacher an apple.

-- 
Seanna Watson   Bell-Northern Research, 
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Opinions, what opinions?  Oh *these* opinions. | Occam's razor split 
No, they're not BNR's, they're mine.           | hairs so well, I bought 
I knew I'd left them somewhere.                | the whole argument.


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From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: Re: Co-ed Dorms!
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:53:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.172049.1899@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.133328.6984@athena.mit.edu> tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie) writes:
>>
>>Heh, more like ObCommonplace.  Most of MIT's dorms are co-ed.
>>
>>Tom "Ask about our co-ed DINING HALLS!" Louie
>>tlouie@athena.mit.edu
>
>There are WOMEN there????????????  :-)

Ah. So THAT's what you call them. [raises hand] I'm a little unclear on
the theory, still.


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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Eskimo words for snow (was: Re: Faces of death)
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:07:38 GMT
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

i heard somewhere that there is some language originating in a warm country
where there is only one word for ice/snow, which in that lannguage includes
sleet. hail, snow, and all kinds of ice.
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