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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:17:00 CDT
From:         "Love does not subtract, it multiplies." <HOLZMAN@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Homosexuality

<It is not judgmental, but speaks of observable characteristics they have and
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 |
 |-let's keep track of that statement.

<compares them with Sodom and Gamorah. Not what most would think.

<    From A.E. Wilder-Smith's AIDS-Fact without Fiction.
<
<    "Had our schools and their teachers known and appreciated the words of
<the Holy Bible with respect to homosexuality, had today's priests and
<religious instructors taught lessons on the Old and New Testament in a
<conscientious manner, then many children would have had the chance of
<appreciating that anal intercourse is a perversion of human sex life that
<has psychological (aggression) and physiological (epidemic disease)
<consequences.

1) This is not judgemental?
2) Anal sex causes aggression?  Care to document that claim?  What about
heterosexuals who engage in anal sex?  What about homosexuals who don't?  What
about Lesbians?

<These teachings are so serious that homosexuality was
<punished by death and the exclusion from God's People in Israel(4). The
<terminology used in the old scripts about sodomy is UNAMBIGUOUS. SODOM and
<SODOMY were the direct causes of God's judgement and the New Testament
<confirms the rationale of this severe sentence.

Ezekial 16:49 -- "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride,
fullness of bread, and caleless ease was in her daughters; neither did she
strengthen the hand og the poor and needy."

Ezekial 16:50 refers to abomination and haughtiness, but abomination is used in
the OT to refer to any act of worship of a Pagan Diety.

<    (4) Deut. 23:17; 1 Kings 14:15, 22; 2 Kings 23:7; Gen 13:13; Gen 19;
<Rom 1:19-33.

Deut. 23:17 -- "he shall dwell with thee, in the midst of thee, in the place
which he shall choose within one of thy gates, where it liketh him best; thou
shalt not wrong him."

This refers to dealing with an escaped slave.  What relation to the above
discussion?
1 Kings 14:15 -- "for the LORD will smite Israel, as a reed is shaken in the
water; and He will root up Israel out of this good land, which He gave to their
fathers, and will scatter them beyond the River; because they have made their
Ashenim, provoking the LORD."

This is part of what Ahijah is telling the wife of Jeroboam will happen as a
result of Jeroboam's going to see a fortune teller, and for worshipping Pagan
Dieties.  What has this to do with the statement to which the reference is a
footnote?

2 Kings 23:7 "And he broke down the house of the sodomites, that were in the
house of the LORD, where the women wove coverings for the Asherah."

This chapter is about King Josiah wiping out worship of the Goddess Asherah,
the God Baal, sun worship, moon worship, etc.

Genesis 19: I've discussed this enough times that I don't feel I need to type
in the analysis of the passage again.

I don't have a NT on hand, so I don't know what the NT quote is.

Anyone who feels that the homosexuality ban in the Torah should be enforced but
does not abide by the entire torah is a hypocrite.

Dan
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