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From: HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Anyone have a new Radio Czechoslovakia schedul
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:17:02 EDT
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>A friend of mine enjoys listening to news from her homeland.  She used
>to tune in at 10:30pm EDT (0230 UTC) at 7345 KHz, but tonight the
>signal was not there at all.  Have they switched to winter
>frequencies?  Does anyone know what they are?
>
>John Jensen
>jejensen@ccs.carleton.ca

 The times and frequencies are still the same, but the reception is poorer at
this time of the year. I suggest that she try 5930 mHz, and stay close to a
window, and certainly away from a working computer.

Henry Kucera
From: raster@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Radek Aster)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Spejbl a Hurvinek
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:17:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: mystix.RASTER.92Oct2111735
Organization: CS Dept, University of Oregon

Spejbl is the tall guy, and he's the father of Hurvinek, who is the short
guy.

As for the history, I can't help you there. My parents have some tapes of them.
I seem to remember that S+H was a regular radio show back in the '60s.

Nazdar,
Radek
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: ljh655 <ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au>
Subject: RE: The Split ?
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:13:44 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 03:13:34 GMT

My personal opinion is that if there would be two
questions in the referendum as Erland suggests:
1. Do you want Czech/Slovak republic to become an
independent country?
2. Do you want Czechoslovakia to continue as a federation
in today's form?
there would be a "No" answer to the first, and "No" answer
to the second as well. The reasons are plain - majority of
people according to recent polls do not really want the
split (as to 1.), but people, especially in Slovakia (and
Slovaks abroad) do not like the Czech dominance in the
present form of the united state. So what is going to
happen after such a result would come out ? As far as I
know the Czech politicians are not very willing to discuss
any change in the federation dominated by them (Klaus made
it clear - either a federation with no significant
changes, or a total separation, thus - no equity with
Slovaks).  Not an easy situation, eh ?
From: HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Anyone have a new Radio Czechoslovakia sch
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:18:42 EDT
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 Sorry, that's 5930kHz.  H.K.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: ttocek@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Tomas (too much) Tocek)
Subject: Are there any Internet nodes in CSFR?
Organization: University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:41:29 GMT

Isn't Internet great? I am just discovering the advantages it has to offer.
(my account is a school account, while I'm in the Math program here)
 
Soooo, I was wondering if there are any Internet centers in CSFR. For
possible e-mail exchage, shareware exchange,.....etc.  I noticed that some
users are from Austria or Germany. Do you know of any sites in CSFR?
 
(FYI, I have some friends in Bratislava (high-school x-classmates) that
might want to gain access to Internet.)

Any reply is appreciated.


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From: kaefer@harvey.in-berlin.de (Th. Meinecke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Looking for Czech dictionary...
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:26:48 GMT
Organization: private unix site

Hello, out there..

I'm starting learning the Czech language and wondered if
it would be possible to get a dictionary via FTP or on
other appropiate ways containing the most used words
in Czech and an English or German explanation.

Thank You in advance
	Thorsten
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: The Split?
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:02:03 GMT

Henry Kurcera (HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu) writes:
> A referendum requires a question that can be answered YES or NO. I have not
>seen anywhere a single suggestion of what that question is to be. Clearly,
>something like "Are you for the split, yes or no?" does not make a meaningful
>referendum, no matter what the result, simply because it does not give any
>direction about the future form of coexistence (unitary state, narrow
>federation, loose federation, "union" of some sort, or nothing). The only
>result that would be useful would be for a majority in both states voting for
> a split. But that would hardly make the problems any better (e.g. dividing
>the property, etc.)

Let me say that I perfectly agree with the sentiment. If you are
not asking a good question you will not get a good answer. However,
I like to point on there is really not necessary to have only
two alternatives in a referendum. The democratic life constantly
faces situations where there are more than one proposition for
the same issue, and the democratic life also knows how to resolve
them through contrapropositional votes which often takes place
in various voting assemblies as parliaments, the annual meeting of
your local bridge club etc. Now, admittedly it's a very different
task to hold contraprositional votes among 15 million people than
a few hundred who are all in the same place, and normally you don't
do so.

Nevertheless, it may be necessary in Czechoslovakia to hold more than
one referendum if the split proposal is refuted, but it is felt that
the current arrangement is not satisfactory. If the referendum leads
to a split, there will be less need for new referendums as the
problems that arise in such a case will be an issue for negoatiations
between the two states.

As for the exact question on the ballot I suggest "Do you think
the Czech/Slovak republic should become an independent state?"
Thus, the question would not be the same in the two republics.
An idea would also be to add a second question: "Do you think
that Czechoslovakia should remain a federation as of today?" In
theory the referendum could have a number of questions, what
is important is that all are yes/no questions. And that the outcome
of various combinations is defined in advance. Thus, as I said,
if any republic vote for independence this will lead to a split,
even if the second question is answered with the affirmative in
entire Czechoslovaka. The only unclear state would be if both
propositions are refuted, but in this case the politicians would 
know that they have find out something new and come back to the 
people. (Well, of course if a lot of voters fill in YES to both
question, we will be in deep trouble. Reasonably, it wouldn't
happen.)

-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
There are many sorts of Macedonians: Greek, Bulgarian, Roumanian, Macedonian...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: george@viper.ccs.yorku.ca (George Kahler)
Subject: Re: Spejbl a Hurvinek
Organization: /usr/users/george/.organization
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:36:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.151326.24387@Princeton.EDU> eva@puhep1.princeton.edu (Eva Zeisky) writes:

   I received, as a gift, a couple of  Spejbl and Hurvinek figurines 
   but I forgot which one is which.   Can anyone tell me which is
   the tall guy and which is the short one? My kids think they're
   just "awsome".  Also, can anyone refresh my memory about
   the history around  these characters, such as who created them, 
   books, etc., etc.  

   Thanks very much.

   Eva 
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Nazdar Eva,

ten vetsi je Spejbl, ten maly je Hurvinek.

(the tall one is Spejbl, the small one (baby) is Hurvajs

ciao...george

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From: tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar)
Subject: Anyone have a new Radio Czechoslovakia schedule?
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:44:08 GMT

[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.nordic ]
[ Author was John Jensen ]
[ Posted on Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:49:13 GMT ]

A friend of mine enjoys listening to news from her homeland.  She used
to tune in at 10:30pm EDT (0230 UTC) at 7345 KHz, but tonight the
signal was not there at all.  Have they switched to winter
frequencies?  Does anyone know what they are?

John Jensen
jejensen@ccs.carleton.ca
From: shark@netcom.com (Stefan M. Sharkansky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Seeking info on university C.S. departments in Czecho-Slovakia
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:30:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I'm interested in finding out about the state of the academic computer
science community in the Czech and Slovak republics.  If anyone can answer
any of the following questions, I'd be grateful.

How many universities/technical institutes offer programs similar to what
Americans call "computer science"?
Which schools are said to have the "best" computer departments?
How many students graduate each year with equivalent of bachelor's degree
in C.S.?
What kind of computer hardware/O.S. do people use for coursework?
How many schools offer equivalent of PhD in C.S.?  How many graduates do they
produce?
Which areas of research are particularly strong?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Stefan Sharkansky
shark@netcom.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: eva@puhep1.princeton.edu (Eva Zeisky)
Subject: Spejbl a Hurvinek
Organization: Physics Dept., Princeton University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:13:26 GMT

I received, as a gift, a couple of  Spejbl and Hurvinek figurines 
but I forgot which one is which.   Can anyone tell me which is
the tall guy and which is the short one? My kids think they're
just "awsome".  Also, can anyone refresh my memory about
the history around  these characters, such as who created them, 
books, etc., etc.  

Thanks very much.

Eva 
-- 

========================       
Eva S. Zeisky                
Dept. of Physics          
Princeton University      
Princeton, N.J. 08544     
                          
esz@pupgg.princeton.edu    
========================
From: davidson@emr1.emr.ca (David Davidson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Help needed on car rental in CSFR
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:39:26 GMT
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa

I will shortly be travelling from Berlin to many cities in CSFR. I was
going to rent a car in Germany but found that there is only one company
that will let cars go to the CSFR and the theft insurance deductable is
8,000 DM. Can you believe this?

So I will take the train to Praha and rent a car there. Can someone please
advise me on car rentals there. I am wondering what it costs, and if anyone
has some personal experience to share that may help me avoid pitfalls.

Please accept my thanks in advance.
David


e-mail  davidson@ccrs.emr.ca
fax     613-996-9843  
phone   613-996-9398
From: HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Prst ?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:02:39 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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 In Czech, both [r] and [l] are syllabic, which means that you can indeed have
words without "vowels". A whole sentence often cited is: Strc prst skrz krk!
which means (sorry about that) 'Put your finger through your throat (neck).'
 For [l], there are words like 'vlk' (wolf), 'hlt' (gulp - noun), etc.
   As a matter of fact, in standard Czech (not in the colloquial language) even
 [m] and [n] are syllabic in the words 'sedm' (seven) and 'osm' (eight) - in
spoken Czech, you get 'sedum' and 'osum' or 'vosum'.

  The situation is Slovak is somewhat different.

  Henry Kucera
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: The Split ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:26:15 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Anonymous <ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au> writes:
>My personal opinion is that if there would be two
>questions in the referendum as Erland suggests:
>1. Do you want Czech/Slovak republic to become an
>independent country?
>2. Do you want Czechoslovakia to continue as a federation
>in today's form?
>there would be a "No" answer to the first, and "No" answer
>to the second as well. The reasons are plain - majority of
>people according to recent polls do not really want the
>split (as to 1.), but people, especially in Slovakia (and
>Slovaks abroad) do not like the Czech dominance in the
>present form of the united state.

This analysis does not seem improbable to me. However, I
think there is one thing to remember: A man or a woman
can walk out of his spouse without the other's persons
agreement, but he or she cannot say: "Look I don't want
to live in same house as you anymore, but I still want
to come and hold your hand and go to bed with you now
and then" and request that the other person must comply.

That is, if the Slovaks wants total independence, the
Czechs have no say, but if the Slovak wants to change
the arrangement of the marriage, they can only do so
if the Czechs agree. If the Czech say "as before or
total divorce", the "union" option is non-existent.

And therefore, in a vote on a complete split, it is sufficient
with a single majority in one republic (unless you agree on
some other limit) for a split, but any changes from a
federation to a union requires acceptance in the entire
state. And to simplify: if all Czechs votes for a preserved
federation, and all Slovaks votes against but not for
complete secession then there will be no changes.

Of course, all this is very simple for me to say as an outsider.
I don't expect Meciar to agree with me. But then again, he doesn't
look like the biggest democrat around to me.

>As far as I
>know the Czech politicians are not very willing to discuss
>any change in the federation dominated by them (Klaus made
>it clear - either a federation with no significant
>changes, or a total separation, thus - no equity with
>Slovaks).  Not an easy situation, eh ?

That's right. However, if none of Czechs and Slovaks supports
a split, nor a continued federation of todays kind, then
people and Klaus obviously disagrees, and who should comply?
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
There are many sorts of Macedonians: Greek, Bulgarian, Roumanian, Macedonian...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: Interesting Technology
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:42:00 GMT

Greetings. I am researching an article for an engineering magazine
about technology from the new countries of Europe which might be of
interest to our design-engineer readers. Since the article will not
be published until early next year, I wish to include what will become
the two new countries from Czechoslovakia (I am also researching 
the European republics of the ex-USSR, and former Yugoslav republics).

Our readers would be interested in things like new materials, innovative   
solutions to machine-design problems, computer engineering software 
tools, etc. If anyone has any ideas for me, or suggested contacts,
I would greatly appreciate it if you could let me know. Information
about technology joint-ventures between Czechoslovakia and companies
in the West would also be of interest.

Many thanks,

Sharon

-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: niki@athena.mit.edu (Nikos Tornikids)
Subject: Visa info.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:34:11 GMT

Hello, I know this is probably not the best place to post this article, 
but so far posting it in other, more relevant news groups was everything 
but successful....

Therefore.....
Could somebody tell me more about the Affidavit of Support form.
I am a F-1 student and want to bring a friend of mine here.
She will have her own medical insurance paid back in Praha but she was told
that $30 per day must be shown (I don't know if to the consular officer 
in Praha or to the immigration officer at the port of entry).
Since the desired period is more or less one year the amount is just to large
for her and me too.
I do not know if I could sign the Affidavit since F-1 and also where the
length of stay is going to be determined, here at the port of entry or at the
consular office back in Praha.
Also is there any other way to invite somebody to US besides the Affidavit?
I heard that it's OK if somebody signs a statement saying more or less "I will
support this person for this time" have it notarized and send it to the person 
who will present it to the embassy in Praha in order to get a multiple turist 
visa valid for as long as the support is assured. 
If someone knows what the procedure is I and she should take please post any
info. here or send me Email.
Any additional info. appreciated.......
                                 
                                 Thanks, Mikulas 
                                       
                                 Nejlepsi je chladnej Kozel..........
From: kk73227@cs.tut.fi (Kontola Kalervo Mikael)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Prst ?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:06:35 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
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Originator: kk73227@cs.tut.fi

When I was working in Zilina in the last year I heard
that there is some words in Slovak-language without
any vowels.

If I remember correctly one is 'prst' and depending 
on pronouncing the meaning is finger or ground (?).

Is there any others words without vowels ?

Just curiously asking,

Kalervo Kontola
Tampere
Finland
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From:  (Matej Lexa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: The Split ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:08:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvnou8.Mwu
Followup-To: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Organization: University of Illinois

In article <1992Oct5.031334.21710@newshost.anu.edu.au>, ljh655
<ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> My personal opinion is that if there would be two
> questions in the referendum as Erland suggests:
> 1. Do you want Czech/Slovak republic to become an
> independent country?
> 2. Do you want Czechoslovakia to continue as a federation
> in today's form?
     > remaining lines deleted <

   Personally, I do not see any reasons for questions other than #1. It is
pretty clear from what has happened during the last 3 years or so, that
Czech people were satisfied with the federation, while Slovaks want to
change it. The irony of the present situation is (and that's why question
#2 does not make much sense to me) is, that the federation can not exist in
it's today's form, with federal government without much power. But if
answer to #1 is no, what will happen to the federation ? Will the republics
give back some of it's powers to federal government ? Not very likely, is
it. So even #1 is questionable.
   I do not really know what the best solution would be. Do you ?

Matej.
From: spacl@cscnx10 (Spacek L A)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Prst ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:49:36 GMT

In article <RASTER.92Sep30170513@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu>  
raster@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Radek Aster) writes:
> Kalervo Kontola writes :
> >> Are there any others words without vowels ?

> This Czech guy goes to the eye doctor for an eye exam. The doctor points to
> the chart on the far wall and asks the man if he can read the first line on 
> the chart. The guy replies: "Read it ? Hell, I know the guy!"
> 

Here are some more:

srst = fur
srp = sickle
hrst = handful
prd = fart
smrt = death
vlk = wolf
plk = gossip
prs = breast
trs = clump
tvrz = fortress (incidentally, this was quite left out of the recent discussion
                 about castles versus palaces).

etc, etc,. As you can see, it is all very easy and economical.
I heard it said that all the vowels are migrating into English, whereas the
consonants are migrating into Czech. One advantage of speaking in consonants
is the clarity of the pronounciation, ie. you cannot leave out the first
half of the word and swallow the second half, as so often happens in
English.
--
Libor Spacek, Computer Science, University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: ljh655 <ljh655@cscgpo.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: The Split again ...
X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:51:21 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 01:51:18 GMT

Thanks for your follow-ups. I did not suggest the
questions for the future referendums, my reflection was of
a "what if" type. However, I agree with Henry that there
is not much sense in doing all this after Slovakia has
proclaimed its indepedence and issued the new
constitution... But - probably many people still want to
have their own say after the politicians had theirs... And
this might bring the controversy - what if the people will
vote against what their own representatives already
decided for ?!? As a paralel with the Maastricht treaty
was mentioned, I think - what's really also the sense of
all those referendums - even the Danish are now scratching
their heads: 'Oops, didn't we want to be in it after all ?'
Decisions - that's what life's all about. Once the
decision to split was made we shouldn't waste time
arguing, but we should rather make any effort building up
something new. And as far as I see the decision to divorce
has already been made, hasn't it ?

Lubos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: The Split?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:39:56 GMT

Here are a couple of items from the SLOVAK-L mailing list.
Perhaps Czechoslovakia isn't as close to splitting as we thought?
 
CZECHOSLOVAK PARLIAMENT REJECTS LAW ON MODES OF SPLIT .  . . On 1
October the Czechoslovak Federal Assembly failed to pass a law on
the modes of dividing the country.  CSTK reports that in each
chamber of the parliament the measure fell just short of the
required three-fifths majority.  The law would have allowed the
federation to be dissolved without a referendum, which would
represent only one four possible courses; the others would be a
Federal Assembly declaration, an agreement by the republican
parliaments, or unilateral declaration by one of the republics.
Currently, secession by one republic based on the results of
referendum held in that republic is the only "constitutional" way
of dissolving the country.  (Jiri Pehe, RFE/RL Inc.)
 
. .  .  AND ADOPTS RESOLUTION ON UNION. The Federal Assembly
approved a resolution calling for legislation to create a
"Czech-Slovak Union," which would replace the current federation.
The resolution proposes a union consisting of a president,
legislature, and governing council.  The resolution was approved
when deputies representing Vladimir Meciar's Movement for a
Democratic Slovakia banded together with opposition parties in
voting for the resolution.  Czech Prime Minister Vaclav Klaus
opposes the idea of the union. CSTK reports him as saying that the
union "is not in the interest of the citizens of the Czech
Republic, and we will not create it by any means." Klaus also
sharply criticized the Movement for a Democratic Slovakia for
supporting the resolution.  (Jiri Pehe, RFE/RL Inc.)