Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Moral and Education (Re: Zam sinks to new dep
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:14:29 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <1992Apr15.152724.1486@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:

>	Give it a break guys.  Don't you guys ever have childhood
>fantasies?  Mine was/is to be a politician, and let's just leave it at
>that...

Mine was to see the world in peace and deviod of hate...but fantasies
shall only remain fantasies.  :-).

>	My outburst has cost me several job opportunities in Malaysia.
>I have had top managerial people sending me e-mails, telling me not to
>apply for a position in their company because of what I wrote.  

Perhaps people do take offence in your racist statements.  
Personally, I disregard what names other people call me, but
such cannot be assumed of everybody.  If I were the personnel 
manager, I definately would not hire someone who instigates 
my Chinese employees to hate my Malay employees, and vice-versa.

>Nobody
>says that being truthful will benefit me, 

>I felt the need to let my feelings known regarding certain things. 

If you are being truthful, then why the racial slander.  Why the 
signiture?  Why the obsceneties?  Why ask people who disagree 
with your views to go to PRC, Singapore, Taiwan?  Remember the
"learn the fucking language thing"?  If what you said really reflects 
the  kind of person you are, then the top managerial people have done 
the right thing.

However, it is still not too late to repent.  Say something nice
(for a change).  Show the managers that you are not the kind of
person they thought you are (I am giving the benefit of the doubt
to you here).  Show them that you do not have to use vulgar 
language to get a point through.  

>	I had a close Chinese friend at MIT a few years ago.  
...
>The guy
>seemed like a nice person, and I thought that he was my friend.  Then,
>a Malay friend of mine 
...
>told me that the guy
>had been bad-mouthing me behind my back.  I checked this out, and I
>found out that my Malay friend was telling me the truths.  There goes
>my friendship with him (Chinese), and I have not talked to him
>ever since.

While I deeply sympatise with you being stabbed in the back by
a close friend, one cannot blame every Chinese for what your friend 
did.  If I took the same attitute as you do, I would hate every Malay.  
(A Malay mugged a relative of mine not so long ago).  

In some ways, I take pity on you.  One bad experience with a Chinese
and you keep so much hatred burning within you.  Remember hatred
is like fire.  When small, you use the heat, but it can burn 
out of control if you are not careful.

>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud

This quote will not buy you any friends.

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