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From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Subject: Re: Chopped routes in Logan Canyon
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 17:47:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Nov4.205258.60400@cc.usu.edu> sinclair@cc.usu.edu (Bob Sinclair) writes:
>Ohgodohgodohgodohgod, here we go again.
>We have just completed a vey sucessful set of interactions in Logan Canyon
>with the local ranger district (FS) regarding threatened and endangered
>plants. We lost some climbs, but came out of it with an excellent relationship
>with the forest servics and the local conservationists. The guidelines are
>about to become rules (for next season) and everything is hunky dory. THEN,
>Just as you thought it was safe to put on your shoes.....
>daaaa dum, daaa daaaa dum! dum dum dum etc
>Five routes have been removed by an unknown chopper. Bolts, hangers and 

This is a criminal act of vandalism against our property.  I hate to sound
like George Bush, but what's needed are well-defined criminal sanctions.  
I think a five year prison sentence is appropriate.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.climbing
From: brendan@buck.ac.uk (Brendan Murphy)
Subject: Gullich
Organization: University of Buckingham
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:23:14 GMT

nicolas@stam.nl (Nico Veenkamp) writes:

>brendan@buck.ac.uk (Brendan Murphy) writes:
>>
>> [By the way, on the basis of only a brief encounter with Wolfgang Gullich in
>> Pakistan, I can echo sentiments that his death is a sad loss to the climbing
>> world; I will always remember his charm, enthusiasm, and sincerety.  Very few
>> people have managed to match his ability on the rock as well as in the
>> mountains.]
>>
>Do you mean Gullich is dead? Since when? haven't heard about it. If true
>than  great climber has indeed befallen us. (sorry, pun NOT intended)

Wolfgang Gullich was killed in a car crash in August.
-- 
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Brendan Murphy					brendan%buck.ac.uk@uknet.ac.uk
Department of Computer Science			Tel: 0280 814080
University of Buckingham, MK18 1EG, UK		Fax: 0280 822245
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From: vida@crsa.bu.edu (Vida Jakabhazy)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: HELP! How do I apply a design to canvas aprons?
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:29:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing


I plan to make a present of two aprons complete with logo for my in-laws'
business and am wondering how to go about applying the design to the aprons.
I'm hoping to find a neutral-colored canvas apron and would like to apply 
farmhouse logo that is about 5" x 5" square.  What are my options?  I would
love to hear any and all suggestions.  

Thanx!
Vida Jakabhazy
vida@crsa.bu.edu

PS.  BTW, I do not know how to silkscreen which, to someone ignorant in these
     ways, would seem to be a likely choice.
From: v087q5jd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: Making fans
Keywords: Fans wanted
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi, apoligies ahead of time if this is the wrong place to post this, but 
I have a problem perhaps one of you could solve... A friend of mine is
getting married in June and wants to carry oriental type fans down the alter.
Thus she needs 4 middle sized, very nice fans.

Does anyone know how to make them, or does anyone out there make them on
commission?  We are getting desparate!!!  If you have an idea how to do it, or
are willing to sell some that you have make, please mail me!  Thanks!
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
From: jdboer@sol.UVic.CA (Johan deBoer)
Subject: Tatting
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: rec.crafts.misc
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:49:59 GMT

A friend of mine is interested in tatting. Does anyone know of some
titles of books about this craft. She is a beginner, not too difficult
books are therefore probably more appropriate.

Thanks in advance.

Eden de Boer

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
From: dvr@doofus.b15.ingr.com (Mr. Wonderful)
Subject: recipe for glycerin soap
Keywords: soap,recipe,glycerin
Reply-To: dvr@doofus.b15.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville Al.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:36:29 GMT

Hi All,

My wife has made soap at home from scratch for a year now using both
lye and lard in the recipe.  Recently, she talked with a shop owner
in town who claims to have a recipe for home-made soap made with
glycerin and no lard or lye.  We're thinking that what this person
is really doing is melting down glycerin soap and then adding her
own perfumes.  My question is this:

Do any of you know of a recipe for glycerin soap made without either
lard or lye?  Aren't both lard and lye necessary to making soap?

If there is a way to make glycerin soap and you have a recipe,
we'd sure like to get a copy of it!  We'd like to use a soap more
user-friendly to the eyes.

-- 
*******************************************************************************

Doug Roberts                             E-mail: dvr@doofus.b15.ingr.com
Senior System Engineer
Federal Systems Division                 Phone: 205-730-1760
Intergraph Corporation
Mail Stop IW1510                         FAX: 205-730-6956
Huntsville, AL  35894-0001

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From: 889thurman@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: applying a design to canvas 
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:49:48 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

This is in response to Vida...
One of the easiest ways for you to accomplish putting a logo design onto
the two aprons is to use a bonding web. Stitch Witchery is a name brand 
that should be readily available from any fabric/craft store.
All you'll have to do is cut out the design you want from fabric, cut the
bonding web out to the same design, place the web between the design fabric
and canvas, then press with an iron. EASY!!! You can cover the raw edge with
a border of fabric paint to glitz it up a bit.
The finished product will be washable.
If you're short on time for projects, but want a really nice looking finished
project, I can't think of anything easier to do.
Let me know if I can be of anymore help!!
Parri :)
From: gklein@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ginamaria Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: candle making supplies...
Summary: where can i get them good and cheap?
Keywords: wax, candles
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:02:49 GMT
Organization: UB

hi!
i was wondering if anyone could tell me where i can find good and inexpensive 
candle making supplies in the buffalo ny area,
or if someone has a good reliable mail order source they would li8ke to share 
with me...
im not really looking for anything fancy, although i love reading about all 
sorts of things i never heard of...

thanks

gina
From: panda@drktowr.chi.il.us (Andrea Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: Parts for Trophies
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:51:44 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeff - Griffin (JEFF-G@cup.portal.com) wrote:
: Can anyone direct me to either manufacturers or distributors of parts for
: making Trophies and Awards (plaques etc.), Y'know, the 'Bowler/Golfer/Pitcher
: figurines (gold/silver color), fancy 'columns' & bases etc.?

There is a place in Des Plaines that might be able to help you.
The name of it is MIGHTY MITE AWARDS.  It is near Rand and Golf roads.
The phone number is  (708)-297-0035.  Sorry, I am not sure of the address.

 Andrea
From: law@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: HELP!! I need 7/8" wide Black Elastic!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:52:57 EST

I need a supplier for 7/8" wide black elastic. I can find 3/4" and 1"
locally but the 7/8" has been elusive. Can anyone send me a telephone
number or address of someplace that may handle this item?? I would be
eternally grateful.

Thank You

Bob Law
From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeff - Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: WANTED: Parts for Trophies
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 02:22:04 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Can anyone direct me to either manufacturers or distributors of parts for
making Trophies and Awards (plaques etc.), Y'know, the 'Bowler/Golfer/Pitcher
figurines (gold/silver color), fancy 'columns' & bases etc.?
 
	Thanks, Jeff Griffin
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
From: ellen@mail.boi.hp.com (Ellen Osinski)
Subject: Rawhide string source
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:56:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


I want to do some rawhide braiding, but do not want to cut my own strings.
Does anyone know of a source for rawhide strings?

Thanks.
--

                 /\
                /**\    /\
               /****\  /**\
              /***   \/    \
      /\     /              \
     /**\  /                 \
    /**  \/     Ellen   - at the Double O
   /            Matthew - spouse, best friend, partner
  /             Jasmine - ruler of the roost           (female cockatiel)
 /              Cody    - mouse huntress extraordinair (female pound kitty)
/               Blue    - electric puppy on springs    (male German Shorthaired
                                  \                     Pointer pound puppy)
                Amber   - trusty steed                 (Quarter Horse mare)
                Warrior - go anywhere steed            (Appaloosa gelding)
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: randy_f@verifone.com
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: <None>
Date: 27 Oct 92 08:07:23 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI


>I have a friend who is doing some fabric painting on T-shirts for a Christmas
>boutique.  She has encountered a problem -- after several washings, the fabric
>paint seems to be coming off.  Any tips on what might be wrong?  Any brands
>better than others? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Some of the fabric paints need to be set by heat... However I prefer the 
paints that do not need to be heat set.  In either case, I think the most 
important thing to do is to prewash all shirts before painting  (in warm or 
hot).  This removes any fabric sizing and pre-shrinks the shirt.  The 
fabric sizing can inhibit the paint from sticking during future washing.
And if the shirt is not pre-shrunk, it will shrink in future washings, but 
fabric paint doesn't shrink with it.  

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
From: rehak@breeze.rap.ucar.edu (Nancy Rehak)
Subject: Re: HELP! How do I apply a design to canvas aprons?
Organization: NCAR / RAP
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:33:00 GMT

In article <100711@bu.edu> vida@crsa.bu.edu (Vida Jakabhazy) writes:
>
>I plan to make a present of two aprons complete with logo for my in-laws'
>business and am wondering how to go about applying the design to the aprons.
>I'm hoping to find a neutral-colored canvas apron and would like to apply 
>farmhouse logo that is about 5" x 5" square.  What are my options?  I would
>love to hear any and all suggestions.  
>
>Thanx!
>Vida Jakabhazy
>vida@crsa.bu.edu
>
>PS.  BTW, I do not know how to silkscreen which, to someone ignorant in these
>     ways, would seem to be a likely choice.
>


I've never done any silkscreening, but it seems like it would be an involved
process.  Especially for just making two aprons.  I'm not sure what the logo
looks like, but could you just paint it on with fabric paint?  Or could you
cut a stencil and stencil it on?  These are the only suggestions that come to
my mind immediately.

Hope this helps!

Nancy Rehak
From: leah@smith.CHI.IL.US (News)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
Subject: Re: cream of tartar
Date: 3 Nov 92 22:47:48 GMT
Reply-To: leah@smith.UUCP (L.A.Z. Smith)
Organization: R. H. E. Smith Corp., Wheeling, IL

In article <1992Oct23.192453.1429@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio) writes:

>I am not sure if this is the right group.  Anyhow,
>I am just curious if anyone knows what the use of
>_cream of tartar_ is in candy making if there any is.
>Does it provide for the glaze or for hardness or
>whatever?

The correct group for food-related questions is rec.food.cooking.  It is
unmoderated.  There is also a moderated group, rec.food.recipes, for
recipes only (though recipes are also quite welcome in the unmoderated
group), and several specialized groups, such as rec.food.veg (for
vegetarians -- they seem to discuss vegetarian politics more than the
food itself, though) and rec.food.historic (for people interested in the
cooking of past eras).
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.misc
From: sjm1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Iceland Boy!)
Subject: Looking for beginning bookbinders...
Keywords: bookbinding, beginners
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:43:21 GMT

I'm looking for folks who are interested in bookbinding.  I have had an
interest in it for some time, but I haven't done much with it (lack of
time, money, etc...).  If anyone out there has had experiences with the
art of bookbinding, I'd love to hear from you! Thanks!

Seth J. Morabito                         sjm1@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: transporting homebrew
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:15:08 GMT

In article 16258@mailer.cc.fsu.edu, pepke@scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes:
>I transported a case of Belgian ale across the Atlantic a few months ago 
>in checked baggage on the plane.  Here's how I packed it:
>
> [...description of a crate similar to the ones used to ship Sherman Tanks...]
>
>This may have been overkill, but I didn't want to risk an unpleasant 
>surprise.  It worked fine.  Alas, it is all gone now.

Nothing is overkill when it comes to protecting your baggage from the airlines.

I watched Northwest run over some suitcases with a truck.

I saw a newspaper photo of a Continental 727 that backed over a pickup.

Nothing is overkill when it comes to protecting your baggage from the airlines.

gak

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4

        I'm always more outspoken after a few pints of Guinness.
                - Mrs. E. Slocombe
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 18:02:21 CST
From:  <U30585@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject:    "twist-off" beer bottles

Can "twist-off" top beer bottles be reused for homebrew?  Will regular crown
caps seal on them and can I then twist them off or do I need to use an
opener?
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: apple cider
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:36:34 EDT
Organization: 5 Sigma Software
Reply-To: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <1992Nov3.160307.5158@news.media.mit.edu> (rec.crafts.brewing), bfbrown@media.mit.edu (Brian F. Brown) writes:
) In article <Bx48M6.K0w@unix.amherst.edu>, mbfeld@unix.amherst.edu (Lorenzo the Magnificent) writes:
) > Does anyone know a way to make hard cider from soft cider without a big to-do?
) > Would yeast in the bottle, and a good wait, do it? If not, what?
)  
) > lorenzo
) 
) Then you pitch it with champagne
) yeast, ferment and rack like wort, and condition until it clears, which
) will probably take a coupla months.

Has anyone here tried inducing a malo-lactic fermentation in hard
cider?  What does the result taste like?

uunet!joebloe!joseph   (609) 273-8200 day   joseph%joebloe@uunet.uu.net
2102 Ryan's Run East        Rt 38 & 41             Maple Shade NJ 08052
-----My employer isn't paying for this, and my opinions are my own-----
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: Maple Syrup
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:46:17 GMT


Excuse the Typo SG 1.13 (whew) for the Maple Syrup thing.

-Greg
gcohen@mailer.acns.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: slamb@milp.jsc.nasa.gov (Sean Lamb)
Subject: Re: filter for brewpot spigot
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:27:22 GMT

In article <1drqq6INN9h9@agate.berkeley.edu>, jhh@sprite.berkeley.edu (John H. Hartman) writes:
|> towards the bottom, ending up about 1/2" from the bottom.  As per
|> a suggestion from this group I wedged a copper scrub pad under the
|> downspout to serve as a filter to prevent the drain from clogging.
|> Unfortunately this didn't work as planned. I brought the water to
.....
|> I tried to drain the brewpot. I think the filter would have worked
|> ok for hops, but the grain was too much for it.  I'd like to give
|> this one more shot before going back to siphoning (please no
|> arguments about the relative merits of siphoning vs. a spigot).
|> So, where did I go wrong?

I've had similar problems with trying to filter those pesky stray
bits of grain in my mash-tun.  Basically, I tried the same set-up with
the same results.  I haven't tried this, but a small grain bag over the
scrubber my help.  I think the scrubber gets clogged whne the grain gets
trapped in the "tight" mesh of the squished-up scrubber.
Let's here it for Chore-Boy (tm) Technology!

Sean Lamb (slamb@milp.jsc.nasa.gov)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Brewing smells
From: steve@caticsuf.csufresno.edu (Steve Mitchell)
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:37:49 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: CSU, Fresno


Am I crazy, or do other homebrewers smell their latest
batch for days after they brew.  I can smell that lovely
malt sweetness as I sit at work (not at home), and I know
it's not on my hands or clothes.

I'm convinced that it's a psychological thing..

--steve

-- 
Steve Mitchell / steve_mitchell@csufresno.edu / steve@caticsuf.csufresno.edu
"STUFF: Anything that can be used for homebrewing."  "JUNK: Everything else
you thought could be used for homebrewing, but can't."
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: pieper@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (John Pieper)
Subject: Foam in bottles
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:04:00 GMT

Sorry if this is an FAQ, but is it normal for beer to foam in the bottle
when bottling?  This happened with the two batches I've made so far.
Fermentation was definitely completed both times.  The first time I had
air bubbles in the hose and thought that might be the cause, but taking
care to exclude bubbles the second time made little difference.  Is this
caused by siphoning too fast or is it inevitable?

The first batch turned out just fine, BTW (the second is still aging).
-- 
John Pieper                         pieper@ucsu.colorado.edu
Dept. of Physics                   "Any deviation will result
University of Colorado at Boulder   in termination" -- the Mgt.
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Hombrewer survey
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:56:17 GMT

In article 11831@medtron.medtronic.com, rp9780@mexico (Rudyard A K Porter) writes:
>
>Mail me directly and I will provide a directory and some statistical
>analysis containing complex(!) averaging, enumerations, and histograms
>of the data. Then I will post the results back to the net.  Plus it
>will be fun to get a bunch of mail in my box.  (I will just have to
>remember to set my environment to NoBeep for incoming mail!)

You've got WAY too much time on your hands, pal!

Not only that, you'll be wasting your time compiling statistics when
you could be *brewing*!

Jeez...the shame of it....

You owe me a beer.

gak

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4

How can you be ignorant of something you didn't know in the first place?
                                                      - Choo

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: mcharry@mitre.org (John McHarry(J23))
Subject: Re: Wyeast 2112
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:34:59 GMT

2112 is the so-called "steam beer" yeast.  It is pretty new, so they
hand marked it on the packages.

I used it for one batch and didn't much like it.  I usually brew ales
and did not care for the slightly sulphurous stench of a lager yeast
fermentation.  The beer tastes fine, but has never cleared and it has
been well over a month in the bottle.
From: pyle@intellistor.com (Norm Pyle)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Sumerian Sign of Beer?
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:00:56 GMT
Organization: Intellistor, Longmont, CO

In article <1992Nov5.212104.26992@news.arc.nasa.gov> watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC) writes:
>
>Today's paper [San Jose Mercury News, Nov 5, page 5A, taken from 
>the New York Times] has an article summarizing an article that 
>is in today's journal "Nature", about a 5000 year old brewery
>archaeologists have found in Iran.   Supposedly it is in the
>same site as the oldest winery, at ruins called Godin Tepe.
>
>Anyway, what caught my eye in the article was the sentence: 
>"One of the most common pictographs in Sumerian ruins 
>is the sign for beer, which shows linear markings
>within a jar."
>
>Since I haven't seen the original Nature article, 
>could someone post an ASCI representation of this 
>Sumerian symbol for beer?  I thought it might
>be a neat thing to incorporate into a homebrew label.

If I remember correctly from a American Beer Institute pamphlet I read, it is
something like this:

      ---------------------
     |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |
     |                     |
     |                     |
-----|                     |
     |                     |
     |                     |
     |   |  |  |  |  |  |  |
      ---------------------


The problem with this representation is that is doesn't very well resemble
the original (my ascii graphics capabilities are limited).  The original
picture I saw has the vessel tapered, getting smaller as you go from left
to right; sort of rectangular shaped.  The outer shape represents a clay pot
but the inner linear marks indicate only one thing:  beer.  This is
according the ABI pamphlet.  Here's one more attempt at the picture:

      ---
     | |  ---
     | |   |  ---
     |     |   | ---
     |         |  | ---
-----|                 ---
     |         |  | ---
     |     |   | ---
     | |   |  ---
     | |  ---
      ---

(Try to imagine something like a merge of these two pictures)

Norm
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Freezing hard cider
From: steve@caticsuf.csufresno.edu (Steve Mitchell)
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:43:06 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: CSU, Fresno


I've heard tales of people freezing hard cider and
separating the (frozen) water from the alcohol.

     1) is this method of distillation legal?

     2) how does one do this? (hypothetically, of course :)

--steve
-- 
Steve Mitchell / steve_mitchell@csufresno.edu / steve@caticsuf.csufresno.edu
"STUFF: Anything that can be used for homebrewing."  "JUNK: Everything else
you thought could be used for homebrewing, but can't."
From: Joey.Bishop@f131.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joey Bishop)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Beer Can Collecting Info
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 08:47:08 -0500

beer cans are worth whatever the market will bear?  When the hobby was
really big, I remember people paying outrageous prices for everyday
cans.  ($5 for a current regional/local can????).  I myself do not buy
any cans unless they are full of beer.  Get into trading!  Helps build
you collection, and make new friends.  One of these days I'm going to dust off
the boxes and get back into it.

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