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From: mwyoung@crchh397.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Mathilde Young)
Subject: Contact and Activity Management S/W for sale
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:40:28 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc.

ACT! Contact and Activity Management Software for the Macintosh
for sale. Includes contact manager, activity scheduler, word
processor, report generator, to-do list manager, and auto dialer.
System 7 compatible and compatible with the PC version.
New in box. Hasn't been registered. Sells new for $249, asking
$100.00 obo. Contact Craig at (214) 517-1669 (h).
From: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Ronald Beck)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: is an esoteric concept.

In article <1993Jan27.131111.3769@cs.umb.edu>, jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki) writes:
|> Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
|> 50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.
|> 
|> Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
|> 50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"
|> 
|> It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
|> that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
|> follows "THE PLAN".
|> 
|> Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
|> .

Believe me, when I hit this level of income I will *NOT* be working
here!  And since I'll be "retired" I'll no longer have access to this
newsgroup and will stop reading it.  

Until then it's a diversion during lunch!

Net on,
Ron
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From: fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: mlm opportunity.-repost
Date: 24 Jan 1993 19:05:22 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcgf.sde.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
: If you are considering to get involved with one of the 50 fastest growing
: companies in America. 
: This is The  BEST MLM could be, I have tried "all" of them...

Come on, Grigory:

 - Melaleuca is one of the 50 fastest-growing PRIVATELY-HELD companies
   in the US.  If you're going to brag, at least brag correctly.

 - You have not tried "all" nor anywhere near all of them.
   I find this particularly offensive since my company (Espial) has
   virtually all the features of Melaleuca, a dramatically better
   business plan (*ESPECIALLY* for serious people), less overexposure,
   a truly outstanding training and personal-development system,
   and is 50% ahead of where Melaleuca was at the same point in its growth.
   (I know this to be true because Espial's president, who quoted this
   figure to me, was VP of training for Melaleuca until 1989.)

Melaleuca is a very good company, one of the best out there.  That doesn't
mean it can't be improved upon.

: you can as well e-mail me your phone number privetly, I will not discuss
: the matter over the net.

Please do not RECRUIT over the net, either.  This isn't a forum for
free advertising for you.

Thanks,
Gary
From: jchristi@hpprdeb.prd.hp.com (Jorge Christian)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: Diff between MLM, Netwk Mkting and Pyramid
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:23:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

Gary Fritz (fritz@fc.sde.hp.com) wrote:
: (Followups directed to alt.business.multi-level -- please continue
: the discussion there, and avoid a flamefest in misc.entrepreneurs.)
                and so on ....

: One of our sponsor's recent checks was just under $20,000.  I expect that
: to go up dramatically as the company continues growing.  The company
: president told me last week that he expects Kent and Sue (our sponsors)
: to earn $250,000 this year.  We're not too far from breaking $5000 per month.
: I fully expect to be making $20-50k/mo within 2-3 years, and expect 2 or 3 
: of our people (who have just started within the past 4 months) to be making 
: at least $5-10k/mo in that same timeframe.

: Hope that answers your questions!  
: Gary 

This is quite impressive. I am currently in a MLM company oriented toward
product sales, instead of product compsumption. I really like it because I 
like sales, but I find difficult searching people that like sales as I do.

Gary, I would like to know a bit more about Espial. Would you please mail 
me some literature? My address is: Jorge Christian, P.O. Box 4937, 
Aguadilla PR 00605. If you wish you may call me at (809)882-1672 at night
anytime before midnight (please!). Sorry, my wife does not speak English.

Thanks!

Jorge
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:00:58 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1993Jan27.131111.3769@cs.umb.edu>, jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki) writes:
> Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
> 50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.
> 
> Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
> 50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"
> 
> It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
> that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
> follows "THE PLAN".
> 
> Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
> .







Dear John.
I am sorry for you because of your attitude, however Just so you know I am ful
time MLM'er and it is not of your business how much I am making, but %0 grand a
year is a past step for me and I keep enjoing,  not dreaming.
Now you right about plan.. the one need to follow the plan in order to achive
anything in life, not only in MLM and it is not your plan, but the plan that
GOD has for each of us..
Have a good dreams...
Greg
From: jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: keep dreaming boys ....
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.

Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"

It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
follows "THE PLAN".

Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
.
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re:Re: mlm opportunity.-repost
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:13:44 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1jup9iINNasj@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com>, fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz) writes:
> voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
> : If you are considering to get involved with one of the 50 fastest growing
> : companies in America. 
> : This is The  BEST MLM could be, I have tried "all" of them...
> 
> Come on, Grigory:
> 
>  - Melaleuca is one of the 50 fastest-growing PRIVATELY-HELD companies
>    in the US.  If you're going to brag, at least brag correctly.
> 
>  - You have not tried "all" nor anywhere near all of them.
>    I find this particularly offensive since my company (Espial) has
>    virtually all the features of Melaleuca, a dramatically better
>    business plan (*ESPECIALLY* for serious people), less overexposure,
>    a truly outstanding training and personal-development system,
>    and is 50% ahead of where Melaleuca was at the same point in its growth.
>    (I know this to be true because Espial's president, who quoted this
>    figure to me, was VP of training for Melaleuca until 1989.)

Well Gary,,, I am a serious person, in fact I am very serious and I make good
income with Melaleuca. I was and am involved with many MLM companies and I am a
full time MLMer. Of course I have not tryed all ofthem (you can feel good about
it! joke,,,)> 
> Melaleuca is a very good company, one of the best out there.  That doesn't
> mean it can't be improved upon.
> 
agreed!!!Melaleuca's plan just got improved this month, it is now much more
profitable and it is going to show up on my Febr. check!!!
> : you can as well e-mail me your phone number privetly, I will not discuss
> : the matter over the net.
> 
> Please do not RECRUIT over the net, either.  This isn't a forum for
> free advertising for you.
> 
There is not such a thing in the world as a free cookie!!!! If you are MLMer
and you are serious you shall understand that in MLM recruting does not mean
tooo much yet. After words work is important and I do not do it over the net, 
so I do not think we should all worry too much even though I may admit..rules,,
rules, rules...Y
> Thanks,
> Gary
> 

Thanks
Grigory
(913)749-5792
p.s. this is not an offence I am just doing what MLM is all about..making money
having fun!
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: jchristi@hpprdeb.prd.hp.com (Jorge Christian)
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:46:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

: It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
: that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
: follows "THE PLAN".

: Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
:  

You said it! All the full time MLMers THAT READ THIS NEWSGROUP ... There 
are thousands of other people in the US that are making well over $50K a
year in MLM, but do not read this group. 
BIG MONEY comes after dedicated work to the MLM company that you chose.
I view it as any other kind of business: there is no guarantee that you will
suceed unless you concentrate on what you are doing. The BIG difference is
that by working for others, they are making the BIG MONEY, not you. Give
yourself an opportunity !!!


Jorge
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: Melaleuka Inc. info needed....
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:27:38 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <93023.174701U28947@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U28947@uicvm.uic.edu> John Berteaux writes:
> Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about this Australian based company?
> I believe it's similar to Amway but has a limit of seven levels. Any info
> would be appreciated. Please mail or post any reply...Thanks in advance.
> 

> John
Melaleuca Inc IS NOT Australian based company.
If you need more information on it please call (913)749-5792 or e-mail or at
From: voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: mlm opportunity.-repost
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:36:20 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hi Everybody.

If you are considering to get involved with one of the 50 fastest growing companies in America. Please call  me (913)749-5792.
This is The  BEST MLM could be, I have tried "all" of them...
you can as well e-mail me your phone number privetly, I will not discuss the matter over the net.
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: steve@unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:06:34 GMT

jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki) writes:

>Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
>50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.

>Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
>50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"

>It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
>that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
>follows "THE PLAN".

>Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
>.

I have seen proof of four people in my MLM who earnt over
four thousand pounds (UK) in their ninth month (around 73,000
dollars per year). Not one of them is on the Internet. In fact I have
a pretty good hunch that I may be the only distributor in  our MLM
who is on the Internet, so don't expect many replies to your original
question. When I get (note the positive statement!) to the 50,000 per
year level I shall probably still be at my full time job at least until
I am on 100,000 per year.

Steve Ladlow
steve:unipalm.co.uk


on the Internet so don't expect many replies to your original question.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:47:01 CST
From: <U28947@uicvm.uic.edu> John Berteaux
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Melaleuka Inc. info needed....

Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about this Australian based company?
I believe it's similar to Amway but has a limit of seven levels. Any info
would be appreciated. Please mail or post any reply...Thanks in advance.

John
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:23:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.131111.3769@cs.umb.edu> jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki) writes:
>Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
>50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.
>
>Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
>50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"
>
>It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
>that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
>follows "THE PLAN".

That's because all of those making the BIG MONEY, are no longer chained to a
JOB, and have lost their internet access (oh, the disappointment they must
feel..NOT!).

>
>Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
>.

Yes I will, and one day soon, I will be making the BIG MONEY, and I won't have
any reason to be sitting in front of a computer a 1:30am, replying to
rediculous comments by people who haven't a clue as to what it is all about.


******************************************************************************
Mike Serafin             serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com       Texas Instruments
                                                         Dallas, Texas
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From: jmiller@soc1.acpub.duke.edu (James Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: incredible income opportunity
Keywords: grasping future
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:26:26 GMT
Reply-To: jmiller@soc1.acpub.duke.edu (James Miller)


hi this is for anyone interested in taking control of their financial future.

This not a scam or a secretive scheme which doesn't reveal all the details until 
later.

I will gladly provide all information for you via regular mail, or the telephone

This is an opportunity which will either allow you to supplement of increase your

current income with virtually no-risk.


Please e-mail me your address with a short note. Or write me :

	J.L. Miller
	P.O. Box 5790 DS
        Durham NC 27706-5790
Or call 1-919-684-0520      What do you have to lose?
From: blackp@med.umich.edu (Jeremy Thomas James)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: keep dreaming boys ....
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:10:34 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu
Originator: blackp@hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu


In article <1993Jan27.131111.3769@cs.umb.edu>, jmaki@ra.cs.umb.edu (John Maki) writes:
|> Recently I posted to this newsgroup and asked if anyone CURRENTLY making
|> 50 grand a year or more through networking to post to this group.
|> 
|> Well, I got a couple of responses, all of them saying, "I'm not making
|> 50,000 yet, but boy I sure am real soon !!!!"
|> 
|> It's funny with all the "full time mlm'ers" that read this newsgroup,
|> that NO ONE is making the BIG MONEY supposedly attainable to anyone who
|> follows "THE PLAN".
|> 
|> Keep on dreaming boys.................................................
|> .

Everyone who has responded prior to me is totally correct...
I know people from all walks of life that have become very successful
in network marketing...They are to busy having fun and helping others
attain what they have...I will be glad to repost a message at that level
since I will also make NASA have the second largest computer system in the
world and make Amways' third.  I'll get internet access just for the replies
if not the fact that I like computers...

Good luck to all MLM'ers...Our dreams WILL come true...PERIOD...

Don't Let Anyone Steal Your Dream !!!!!!
-- 
What I say isn't necessarily the opinion of the organization I belong to!
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Jeremy T. James         University of Michigan Medical Center,  ITN 
B1911 CFOB, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0704 Phone:313-747-2778  blackp@med.umich.edu
    "The only thing I know is that I know nothing!"   Socrates
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From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: bizarre experiences wanted
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:38:25 GMT
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science

In article <1js92hINNhmq@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu> writes in part:
|> I am looking for accounts of people's experiences with the
|> paranormal/irrational entities.

Hmm.  I have tons of experience with irrational entities.  In fact,
I may never have actually encountered a totally rational entity!
Perhaps you'd like to rephrase the question.  :-)


-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Xref: sparky alt.paranormal:2870 alt.sci.physics.new-theories:2877 rec.arts.startrek.tech:7823 sci.physics:23600 sci.skeptic:22952
From: mahesh@elcaro1.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mahesh Zambani)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,rec.arts.startrek.tech,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: New Physics, Healing, Paranormal
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:30:23 GMT
Reply-To: mahesh@elcaro1.columbiaSC.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia

In article <1993Jan27.080927.13352@news.unige.ch>, afzal@divsun.unige.ch (Afzal Ballim) writes:
|> In article <1k436cINNfe5@emx.cc.utexas.edu>, ethan@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Ethan T. Vishniac) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> In cases like this the request for appropriate references
|> |> is doomed to failure, but making the request makes a point
|> |> so....
|> |> 
|> |> How about CARP?  
|> |> 
|> |> Cite Appropriate References Please
|> 
|> How about CRAP?
|> 
|> Cite References And Proof
|> 
	I like it.

--Mahesh
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NCR MCPD , Columbia,SC 29170                  hello: off #803-791-6915
						     res #803-750-1863
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From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: bizarre experiences wanted
Date: 23 Jan 1993 20:16:17 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.253.103.149
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXDate: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:20:17 GMT

I am looking for accounts of people's experiences with the
paranormal/irrational entities.  This is not going to be made public.  
My knowledge of this subject matter is somewhat limited and my curiosity
is great, hence my desire to involve myself in conversation regarding the
paranormal.  To all serious e-mails I will respond.
Thanks,
Tom

tk14@cornell.edu
From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: ghosts/spirits
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:33:15 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.253.39.15
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXDate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 12:37:07 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
From: aec1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Allen Chen)
Subject: Re: New Physics, Healing, Paranormal
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:28:29 GMT

brahm@cco.caltech.edu (David E. Brahm) writes:

>petitc@nuge105.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
>> I think the head of Stanford's Engineering dept. did some studies which
>> showed that, by trying to influence certain statistically valid actions
>> (e.g. 100,000 flips of a coin, in one second, by a computer), the
>> subjects did have a small but measurable influence.
>> Now, I want to see those tests done myself, but I don't have the
>> resources.

>It seems obvious to me that you do have the resources, namely
>  1) A computer,
>  2) A human brain.
>So go for it!  Mentally influence your random number generator!  Myself,

Well, I've actually written a program that does this.  Now, don't laugh,
I'm a level-headed cs-major with a strong objective interest in the
paranormal.  Anyways, I was inspired to write this program after reading
several sources.  Before you say CARP, here's one: OMNI 1988, "The Real
Ghostbusters."  Anyways, that's not the only one, but the only one
I have here.  Basically, the program will generate sets of 200 random
numbers and take the mean.  If it deviates too much from the theoretical
mean consistently, then there is the POSSIBILITY of something influencing
it.  Unfortunately, after writing the program, I realized that computers
use pseudo-RNG's so all the numbers that come out are always the same
(depending on the seed, of course).  I'm still on a search for a true-rng,
but am told that the only ones are based on radioactive decay and are
very expensive..  So much for that idea!  I wonder if PEAR actually used
a TRUE-RNG.  I don't see how any psychic abilities could influence a
pseudo-RNG.  Any input, criticisms (helpful), or comments would be
appreciated! :)

Oh, FYI, I didn't intend the program to be used for psychokinesis testings,
but rather for ghost-detection.  But that's another story... In any case
a true-rng is needed to see if it truly works... 

Allen Chen
aec1@cornell.edu
From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Spate's Catalog / Tobin's Spirit Guide
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:31:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Are there any real-life things like this?

Basically it would be an Encyclopedia of paranormal names and events.

Mail or Post.  Thanks.

-Bill
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Do you ever get the feeling that the story's |  Coming in   |=O=|  |=O=|  |=O=|
too damn real, and in the present tense? -JT | point three! |   |  \   /  |   |
Snail Mail: HB 2660, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, 03755-4015. (603) 640-5780
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal,rec.arts.startrek.tech,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:12:21 -0500 
From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" <ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: New Physics, Healing, Paranormal
	<C1GuqL.Jn@apollo.hp.com>

Excerpts from netnews.alt.sci.physics.new-theories: 26-Jan-93 Re: New
Physics, Healing, P.. Peter Nelson@apollo.hp.c (1233)

> | This is no joke! I have been told that I am a "super star" in some powerful
> | circles that have decided that traditional universities are "brain dead"
> | and that something new-age is needed.
> | Admiral Sarfatti
> | Star Fleet Academy
> | Star Fleet Command
> | Presidio
> | San Francisco
> | Federation of United Planets.

>    And you guys still don't think Star Trek is Bad For You?  
>    Maybe some people can't handle that much "intellectual
>    stimulation".

Frankly, I'd say that Sarfatti is an embarrassment to the good name of
Star Trek fans everywhere. 

semi :-).

--Z
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
From: fis@evil.demon.co.uk (Fis Sausage)