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From: klovatt@klnet.UUCP (Keith Lovatt)
Subject: Re: giraffe
Organization: Lugroid Enterprises
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:48:08 GMT
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industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Mark A Bialik) writes:
: Does anyone in alt.beer lans enjoy a Danish beer called "Giraffe?"  If so,
: could you tell me a little about it?  I tried one the other night and loved
: it, but am unable to find it in any stores.  Thanks.
: 

Never had a "Giraffe", but I have enjoyed Calsburg "Elephant" beer.

Keith.
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From: gallags2@coch1.alleg.edu (Sean Gallagher)
Subject: Re: beer DRINKING
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:49:05 GMT

In article <mcnair.24.718747540@slab.unt.edu> mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN  
MCNAIR) writes:
>     I have been drinking beer since I was very young (three years.) I am  
now 
> forty-eight years old, and I usually drink three six packs a day.  
Recently I 
> was laid off and I began to drink heavily. (usually a case and a half a  
day.)
> My unemployment benefits pay for the beer, so its no problem,  
financially. 
> My only problem is that sometimes I pass out and pee into beer cans.  
When I 
> wake up, I'm still pretty drunk, and there are so many beer cans in the 
> room, I don't know where I left off. So, sometimes I drink my own piss!  
It's 
> just that I'm too drunk to tell the difference, and often the beer is  
warm, 
> and as I drink BUD, it's hard to tell the difference between piss and  
warm 
> beer when your're really wasted. Does anybody know whether drinking piss  
as 
> opposed to just beer can cause health problems?
> 
> 
>                                    Gumby
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. Sometimes I polish off an entire BUD pounder bottle filled with  
piss 
> before I know what's going on! I hope this is not a health hazard!






Aye!  One must be aware of the hazards of such a dangerous habit.
	Drinking one's own piss while in a state of drunkeness may lead  
you to associate the affects of alcohol with the action of drinking urine.   
This, of course, could have a disasterous effect upon your social life  
(not that it appears that you have one).  Initially, your friends may  
consider this to be a novelty and a great party trick, but eventually you  
will become an outcast.  You will feel rejected, but will not be able to  
kick the habit.  Eventually, you will be found face down, drowned in a  
sewer, apparently looking for the ultimate high.

				Cheers!
				STG
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From: mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil)
Subject: Re: XXII. Beertest in Munich
Keywords: Beerjuoren
Organization: GMD-Fokus (Berlin)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:25:56 GMT

yes - becks won, but 3 out of 4 of the beerjuroren
may get corrupted. i'll post the final results
within the next days.

- tB!




ps - gordo, deine email adresse ist 

gordon@rio70.snibln.de

ruf mal mail auf!
From: jb@crosfield.co.uk (john bartram)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Brooklyn Lager
Summary: taste report
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:57:51 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

I tried Brooklyn Lager on sunday night. It came out of the 'fridge at
about 5. C and warmed a little in the hot kitchen as I was cooking.

It was very dark for a lager, typically like a pale ale in colour. 
It had a nice malty flavour and a clean hop finish with a pleasant
aftertaste. It reminded me a little of the steam beers I've tried in the
past both Uk and Usa versions.

I liked it for the style and the taste beat most UK brewed lagers hands
down, but then so did the price. :-)

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From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:08:32 GMT


You are so right!! Ballantine India Pale Ale is *wonderful*!  Too bad they 
raised the price 40% in the past six months.  Here in Columbus, at least, it is
about $6.50/six;  last New Year's it was only $4.79!  But if you've never had 
it, it is well worth trying.  BTW I bought Moerlein on sale for $3.99 last 
night.  Their bock beer will be out this winter.  Last time it came only in 25 
oz cans but was fantastic.  (Years ago it came in bottles)  I can hardly wait!
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Toby (was: Bud sucks [and other nasty stuff])
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:46:54 GMT

king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King) writes:

>In article <1992Oct9.083841.20763@wam.umd.edu> mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy) writes:
>>But my FAVORITE beer of all time is a Canadian brew called Toby..the best!
>>I wish they'd export it!!  Anyone else had it???

>Yeah, this is one to look for on tap. Many places don't have it, but
>fortunately there are a few in the Toronto area that do. This is a Canadian
>copy of the British Charrington Toby; since I haven't tasted the original,
>I can't comment on how faithful the copy is. I'm pretty sure that Toby is
>available in bottles from most Ontario Beer Stores. I wouyldn't say that
>it's my all-time favourite, but it is a very refreshing change from the
>run-of-the-mill Canadian beers, dark, smooth and delicious.

Toby was one of the first -- if not the first -- dark Canadian beers
available on draft and bottles.

I don't think it has withstood the test of time out here in BC where
there are much better dark microbrews available.

Hermanns Dark, made by Vancouver Island Brewing is available on
draught and bottles in BC and is a much better beer.

St Patricks Stout by Okanagan Spring is also a fine dark beer.


-- 

All the demands made by the Quebec Nationalists can be summed up in
just one: keep giving us new powers and the money to exercise them, or
we'll leave -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

Each new ransom paid to stave off the threat of schism will simply
encourage the master blackmailers to renew the threat and double the
ransom -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

schuck@sfu.ca              Vote No on October 26th
  
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From: hall@buffa.enet.dec.com (Dan Hall)
Subject: Re: guinness
Reply-To: hall@buffa.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:05:38 GMT


In article <1992Oct3.145523.756@rosedale.uucp>, dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.3956.6973@dosgate> "michael livsey" <michael.livsey@canrem.com> writes:
>>>Anybody else out there tried Guinness' Nitrogen-Gizmo stout can?  Havta say it
>>>was deelicious.  ,
>>
>>MP> Indeed!  It brings bottled/canned stout to a whole new level!
>>
>>I was so amazed about those cans that I cut one open to see who was in there
>>pumping out the beer. It turns out that there's a plastic insert with a small
>>pin-hole in it which apparently allows the Nitrogen to escape. Does anyone
>>know how Guinness gets those inserts into the can without them blowing up???

>It's not nitrogen in the capsule, but more beer.  A couple months ago
>some fine fellow in GB posted excerpts from the patent application.
>Maybe this should be a monthly posting?  The idea is, when you open
>the can, the pressure inside drops, causing the beer to spray out the
>little hole in the capsule, creating the head; at least that's what
>the patent application described.  Personally, I've never even *seen*
>one of these cans.

Yes, info about the less-than-amazing Guinness Smoothifier should be included
in a FAQ, or be required reading, or something.  Thanks for the suggestion,
Dave.  There's been enough inquiries about it (and the subsequent misinform-
ation) to warrant posting the patent info again.  I'll post the original
article, and a follow-up to it, which is a bit more plain-English.            

>-- 
>David Breneman            #################          Historical revisionism:
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> ..uunet!camco!rosedale!dcb      (_)  - - - Ciao.    Then he died... The King!

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Article 4283 of alt.beer:
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: hall@trlian.enet.dec.com (Dan Hall)
Subject: Re: Guinness
Reply-To: hall@buffa.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:38:13 GMT

In article <9APR199218521992@vax.cc.williams.edu>, 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Ba
t Rastard) writes:
>There was a thread a while ago about a new gadget appearing in Guinness
>containers, which caused the stout to pour out in a richer, foamier fashion.
>What was the official name of this innovation, and what was the name of the
>special award it won?  Thanks.

The device was called a Smoothifier. Don't know what award it [won].

There's been lots of speculation, information, and misinformation in this and
other forums about how it works.  Marlene Spears, a member of the Boston Wort
Processors, took the time to look up the device in the Patent Gazette.  Her
article appeared in the last issue of "Brewprint", the newsletter of the Boston
Wort Processors, and I've reprinted part of it below.  Drink about 6 cans of
the new Pub Draught Guinness, then read the following three times fast: 

"1. A beverage package comprising a sealed, non-resealable, container having a
primary chamber containing beverage having gas in solution therewith and forming
a primary headspace comprising gas at a pressure greater than atmospheric;
enclosure means defining a secondary chamber having a volume less than said
primary chamber; restrictor means defining a restricted orifice, said secondary
chamber communicating with the beverage in said primary chamber through said
restricted orifice; said secondary chamber containing beverage supplied thereto
from the beverage in the primary chamber and having a secondary headspace
therein comprising a gas at a pressure greater than atmospheric so that the
pressures within the primary and secondary chambers are substantially at
equilibrium; said container is openable to expose the primary headspace to
atmospheric pressure, and wherein the secondary chamber is arranged so that
upon opening of the container the pressure differential caused by the decrease
in pressure at the primary headspace causes beverage in the secondary chamber
to be ejected by way of the restricted orifice into the beverage of the primary
chamber and said ejection causes gas in the solution to be evolved and form, or
assist in the formation of, a head of froth on the beverage."

Now why didn't I think of that?

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 hall@buffa.enet.dec.com                        ....!decwrl!buffa.dec.com!hall

                      "Adhere to Schweinheitsgebot
        Don't put anything in your beer that a pig wouldn't eat"  --David Geary


Article 4318 of alt.beer:
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From: hall@trlian.enet.dec.com (Dan Hall)
Subject: Re: Guinness
Reply-To: hall@buffa.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Merrimack, NH
TNET>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:58:38 GMT

In article <92107.135309FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>, <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:

> 1/ The "smoothifier" (didn't know they'd coined a name for it) is a small
>container (cylinder, pelet, whatever) of gas in the bas of the can. On openning
>the can (as stated, differential preasure) it bursts and so gassifies the beer.
>It's better than "normal" canned beer, but still notas good as real draft.

Sorry but no, there's nothing in a can of Pub Draught Guinness that bursts.

It's really quite simple.  It's just a small plastic device, its length equal
to the diameter of the can, its width about half the diameter of the can, and
its height about one-half inch.  It is really just a small container, capacity
probably about 10ml, with a tiny hole in it.  Upon canning the beer, some of it
is forced into the container through the tiny hole.  WHen the can is opened,
the pressure differential causes the liquid in the small container to leave it
through the tiny hole.  The ejection of that liquid into the beer in the primary
chamber of the can causes the beer to become roused, and it foams up.

It's really the same action you got from Guinness's previous gimmick, which was
a tiny syringe with which you sucked up some of the beer from the glass and
ejected it back with the syringe's plunger.  In the case of the "Smoothifier",
it's done automagically.

No mirrors, no wires, no bursting pellets, no containers charged with nitrogen
or any other gas, no liquid nitrogen.  Nothing complicated at all.  If you get
ahold of a can of Pub Draught Guinness, cut it open and see for yourself.
And BTW, before you cut the can open, look for the typo in the text on the back.

FWIW, the Guinness in the Pub Draught can is pasteurized.  That probably is one
of the reasons it's not as good as fresh Guinness.  The main reason for me is
because it's not being drunk in a pub in Ireland.

--
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                      "Adhere to Schweinheitsgebot
        Don't put anything in your beer that a pig wouldn't eat"  --David Geary
From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: IN RE: changes at Pete's.
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:38:54 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

I was in the Bay Area in August.  I wished to tour the Pete's brewery in Palo
Alto not knowing that it was contract brewed by Schell's.  When I called the
place, though, they let me know.  So, as of August, it was still made by
Schell.
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From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Subject: Re: Youngs RamRod
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:50:13 GMT

Youngs is an established regional brewer but can hardly be called a
major. It has some 170 pubs and supplies another 600 - mainly in the
London area. I would take issue with "not exceptional" and "mainstream".
They are certainly mainstream styles but are exceptional examples - often
winning awards at CAMRA's Champion Beer of Britain. 
Packaging or strength is not the distinction between bitters and pale
ales. Pales ale derives from India Pale Ale which were beer that were
sent to India for the troops and colonists. These had to be heavily
hopped to survive the journey. I can think of several pale ales which are
around the 5% mark. Best bitter is a much abused term. I would say bitters
should be in the 3.6-4% area. Best bitters 4-4.8% and strong bitters
4.8-6%. many brewers (especially the big boys) seem to call their ordinary
cooking bitters, best now.
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:05:41 GMT


When I was in Wisconsin over the summer I bought a CASE of a beer
called Rhinelander--for $6.19.  Unfortunately, the beer seemed
much worse than my recollection of how it tasted when I was a
college student in Wisconsin in the 1970's.

We also stopped by the Point Brewery in Stevens Point, Wisconsin.
I think Point is OK beer, but, after having read about a beer called
Samuel Adams in this newsgroup last week, I purchased a six to try it
out.  Amazing, wonderful...
From: djoiner@lonestar.utsa.edu (David A. Joiner)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Wheat beers?
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:10:04 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <SOWA.92Oct8154933@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa) writes:
>John> I also have been unable to find a Weizenbock, has anyone seen one in the
>John> US ?
>
>I've had the Maisel Weizenbock. Unfortunately, the local Maisel
>distributor went out of business a few years ago and we haven't seen any
>Maisels since.
>
>Hoch der Maisel!
I don't know if it can be found outside of Texas yet, but Celis is brewing
a wheat beer in Austin called Celis White.  It's a little sweet,
but a real good dessert beer.
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From: kenneth@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kunal Saurov Bagchi)
Subject: Canada to US
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 05:12:12 GMT

About bringing beer from Canada into the US, I can only provide an experience and not a real legal basis but ...

At the college I went to in NY, one fraternity required their ( underage in NY ) pledges to buy many cases of beer in Canada and bring it back. As far as I know, they never had a problem.

					Ken

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
Organization: Little Beer Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:16:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.204004.4222@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
>Leinenkugel was purchased by Miller and Augsburger was also purchased by a
>large brewery (that I can't remember -- Strohs?).  Augsburger Bock is still
>pretty good.  As of last year's supply, anyways.

The Augsburger label was purchased by Stroh's. It is no longer brewed in
Wisconsin. They brew it in the Stroh's brewery in Minnesota, home of many
a lawsuit.

Interestingly, the old Augsburger brewery was bought by Berghof and their
line of beers is now brewed there along with some even cheaper beers.

I still like Leinenkugel'Bock and their regular beer is still tolerable.
The Limited (now brewed year long) seems to have gotten the worst of the
deal. 
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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Coopers
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:56:13 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <1992Oct7.214635.2256@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr) writes:

>	We used to get Coopers a few years ago, but the distributor claims that
>it is no longer imported to the US.  Is this true ?  I hope not, the ale
>and stout are two of my favorites.

Don't know if this is true, but I must say I haven't seen it in quite
a long time, and coincidentally, was just thinking about Coopers last
week, wondering if it was still available anywhere...
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From: dbn7350@zeus.tamu.edu (NASH, DAVID BENNETT III)
Subject: Re: Please Help
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:06:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.153416.9443@csc.ti.com>, jimv@dadd.ti.com writes...
>In article 1b21l1INN9ba@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU, dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>>10.) What is your favorite type of beer?
>>Guinness in Ireland		[ ]
>>Guinness on tap anywhere	[ ]
>>Guinness in bottles		[ ]
>>Guinness in new cans		[ ]
>>other				[X]
  Shiner Bock in kegs   :}      [X]
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From: COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Paul L. Cowan)
Subject: Berghoff's (was best beer under $6)
Organization: CALIFORNIANS ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:17:05 GMT
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In <1992Oct9.204004.4222@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu writes:

:  In article <1992Oct7.211509.8832@netcom.com> gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
:  >In article <1992Oct7.200334.28771@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer) writes:
:  >>I agree:  Berghoff is a fine brew for just $3.79/six.  I like the regular and
:  >>the dark--the bock is not so great.  Also Christian Moerlein ($4.19/six) is
:  >>also very good.
:  >
:  >Leinenkugel used to be okay, but something dreadful has happened to it.
:  >(What?)  Ditto Augsburger, which IMHO sort of teeters on the edge of
:  >drinkability.
:  >
:  Leinenkugel was purchased by Miller and Augsburger was also purchased by a
:  large brewery (that I can't remember -- Strohs?).  Augsburger Bock is still
:  pretty good.  As of last year's supply, anyways.
:  

It is somewhat ironic to read this discussion of Berghoff and Augsburger.
Augsburger was bought by a big brewery (either Strohs of Heilemann) who 
promptly closed down the original Augsburger brewery in Monroe, Wisconsin, 
potentially putting all the employees out of work 8'(. The employees managed 
to purchase the now unused brewery. The bank insisted that they have a 
famous name to use for their new beer, and Berghoff's restaurant in Chicago
agreed to be part of the deal 8^). Happy to say both brewery and restaurant
seem to be doing rather well.

I have refused to buy Augsburger since this fiasco, so it is interesting to 
hear that it has gone down hill (no big suprise).


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From: emeeks@unity.ncsu.edu (Edward Meeks)
Subject: Re: feed me
Organization: North Carolina State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:10:12 GMT

Maybe the author should apply for a NEA grant.

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