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From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Drum Corps Alias?
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 09:50:34 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
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In article <1de545INNd99@bigboote.WPI.EDU> (alt.drumcorps), ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:
>I have heard two things regarding SCV for next year.  First, who ever is going
>to be the corps director wants to get rid of their cymbal line (a real slap
>in the face of the drum line since SCV's cymbal and bass lines are know for
>being consistalntly the best).  ...

Cymbal line, yes, but Bass line???  Spirit's Bass line has always
been the best in my book.

Niel

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn)
Subject: Re: A Night in Tunesia
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:49:10 GMT

In article <1e0braINN3n7@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>Am I mistaken or didn't VK do "A Night in Tunesia" not long ago - I think
>it was 1989.
>
>Confirm or deny?
>

Yes, they did.  Their program was:
Yo Mambo  (Charles Arsinger)
A Night in Tunisia  (they called it "VK in Tunisia")

-- Donald
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Todd Ryan & Voting info.
From: <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 14:09:08 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

>
>I read on here a bit ago that Star wasn't asking Todd Ryan back next year.  I
>can't believe they wouldn't ask him back, so I wanted to clear it up.  Whoever
>posted this, could you tell me who you heard it from?  Or if they are a good
>source?  And, if anyone can confirm or deny this travesty.  As I'm trying out
>for Star in 3 weeks, I'm VERY curious who would be taking over if this is
>true.
>
I was the one who posted the *travesty*.  I heard it from Tom Acheson, who
is program director for Glassmen.  Tom is a pretty with-it guy who I have
known and worked with (on HS bands) for several years, and I have no reason
to doubt his honesty.  I believe there was other support for this info
in another post, too... someone who marched Star recently, I think.  I have
no info regarding his replacement.
 
Good luck with your audition with Star.  Don't let Ryan's absence prevent
you from trying out for the (IMHO) premier horn line in the country.  The
Barber book should be a blast!
 
Keep us informed,
 
Mike Hughes
From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Snare Technology
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:48:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov10.154849.13203@bnr.ca> rbeckham@bnr.ca (Rick Beckham) writes:
>
>  All this talk about the falams and whether they project/don't project as
>well as silver-dots deserves some further reflection. Examining this
>discussion from aspects such as '..air being displaced' seems to me a bit
>on the long-road. Why not drag out the physics books and look up which
>sound has a longer duration? If memory serves, the lower pitch has a
>shorter duration (correct me if I'm wrong), therefore it will travel the	shortest distance.
>
>  As for the falams I find that mistakes are easily masked (such as flat
>flams) because of the high-pitched shorter duration sound. I've witnessed
>quite a few lines (high school, college, drum corp) that in my opinion
>received higher scores than they should've because of the falams.	
>
I have to disagree with this last point.  On the contrary, there is less
post attack resonation from a Falam head because of the higher tensions
in the surface of the head.  It is tougher for the head to propagate waves
(displace air) when a large force is required to establish the amplitude of
the wave.  Therefore, the initial attack will be heard (qualitatively at
a near equivalent volume as plastic), but there will be less residual
resonation (grass) to cover up the dirt.  
There is probably the phenomena of echoing occuring more frequently with 
the Falams since they are rich in upper frequencies, and those frequencies
aren't absorbed as well by objects.  That would explain how a lot of lines
sound trashy on tapes.
These are just guesses using the few courses I've taken that can relate to
the issue.  Please feel free to question.
--David
-- 
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From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Drum Corps Alias?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:32:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In a message to me and alt.drumcorps, Gregory.Dilley@ebay.sun.com wrote:
 
|>I am currently undergoing a career change into medicine.
 
Which aspect of medicine?  Patient care or medical imaging?
 
|>Nice talking with Vince Brad and Mike.  Wanna hear an experience
|>about when I first saw SCV's snare line???
 
Sure!  Write it up and post it!
 
Nice typing at you, too!
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F)
Subject: Re: Snare Technology
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.224428.1@d0msu6.fnal.gov> jerger@d0msu6.fnal.gov writes:

>p.s. - hey Brad, we're still in second place in the Big 10 !!! (4-5, but
>that's a minor detail....)

Cool! I think we would be the worst team in history to ever be invited
to a bowl game, but what the hell. BTW, did you know that MSU won the 
marching perc competition at MBA again this year?

--Brad.


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Rochester, Michigan
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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: Jeramia.Ory@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeramia Ory)
Subject: Heroes lost and Fallen?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:29:37 GMT

I just read that Cavies is doing Heroes Last and Fallen (sorry, my news
reader can not include read articles, or else I would have just followed
up to the original post)  Is the one written for wind ensemble in memory
of the Vietnam vets?  If so, I will be _very_ interested in hearing it.  I
played it in Wind Ensemble at Nebraska, and Ron (marched Star - baritone,
for the last four years, if anyone is interested) and I decided it was one
of the more challenging euphonium parts we played that year.  Great
intensity at the end if done right, I was fighting back tears while
playing the concert (kind of difficult to crescendo to a quadruple forte
while goose bumps are standing up on your arms, your fighting back tears,
and you look up and the director is doing the same).  Only got that
feeling from one other place ... after a great show.  L8R 

Jeramia  Ory
ory@dccc.med.umn.edu
ory@dc-crystal.med.umn.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: St.Angel and the Bird
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:44:33 GMT

Since I am a beginner on this newsgroup, I stilll don't know how to use past 
messages in my message.  I'll learn soon.

I think it was George who asked where I saw the Bird incident.  Look for it
in the secomnd shot of the corps on the PBS tape.  They show a head on shot
of the corps, then a side shot.  St.Angel is in the side dhot.  He is
right outside the perscussion arc with a silver jacket on.

I heard Phantom lost all their prize money for the championships (It might just
be a rumor I heard, I don't kownow).  It's hilarious!!

Rob
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: afo@apollo.HP.COM (Aaron Oppenheimer)
Subject: Snares on top, pipebands (was Re: Snare Technology)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:56:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <pm860605.10.721514608@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu>, pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Peter J. McKinney) writes:
|> 	On another topic... whatever happend to the idea of snares on both 
|> the top and bottom heads of a drum?  I swear I saw something like that a 
|> while back... seems like it's not a bad idea to me....

The Premier pipe-band drums I played in college had snares on the top
and bottom heads.

Anyone else ever play in a pipe-band? If you can stand the sound of
bagpipes, it's a lot of fun - the style is very different from what
corps here play. Everything is crushed, the rhythms are strange, the
sticks are weighted differently, etc.

-Aaron

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Aaron Oppenheimer                             Multimedia Technology Lab
                         "Please Be Fabulous"
Hewlett Packard Co.                                      Chelmsford, MA
=-=-=-=-=-=  I can hardly speak for myself, much less HP. =-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: jgjohn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Todd Ryan & Voting info.
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:02:44 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <BxKJ3D.GEs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, bjh42543@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian J. Haag) writes:
> dsn41188@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david nirschl) writes:
> 
>>ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:
> 
>>>Who is Todd Tyan.  If he is the man in charge of creativity, then I believe I 
>>>can tell you why he's gone.  Thom Hannum is going full time at Star, and along
>>>with him perc. caption head, I've heard that he is also in charge of the
>>>creative aspects of the show (whatever that is).
> 
>>You're right : Todd Ryan, from what I know, is moving back to Madison, where
>>he worked a few years back ( at least in '88, I think) or possibly to 
>>Phantom. Todd seemed to have a hard time adjusting to the head-drill writer
>>position from the secondary position he held behind George Zingali. As a 
>>member I think Todd is a great guy, but watching the video I'm not 
>>impressed with how the drill fits the music. 
> 
>>As far as other positions, Thom Hannum is perc. caption head, Brent
>>Montgomery is snare tech. (previously quad tech.), John Corley (incredible
>>Cadet bass drummer) is bass tech, and Chris Lee won't be back to do the
>>pit, but someone from cadets apparently is. Bob Dubinski, old perc. caption
>>head, will be in more of a "correspondent" position, spending less time 
>>with the corps, working on full corps ensemble stuff rather than working 
>>closely with the drumline. 
> 
>>-Dave Nirschl
> 
> Hi Dave.
> 
> Todd Ryan is going to Regiment, to replace (what's his first name?) Brazale.
> Two members of the guard staff are writing Scout's drill this year.
> 
> Brian J. Haag
> bjh42543@uiuc.edu
> bhaag@nyx.cs.du.edu
> 
> 

What two members of what guard staff????

Jason Johnson
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Flip Phillips)
Subject: Snare Technology
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:06:51 GMT


greetings...

Just curious, I marched back before investment-cast hoops, and other spiffy
technology, (yeah, wore slings, double-hooped snare heads, ripped eyelets out
of hoops, etc) Ludwig had just introduced "Sound Projectors" back then.
The other day I found an old pair of jeans with the left leg worn out where
the leg-brace went... Somebody hand me my walker...

I had exposure 6-years ago, as I was an instructor here in columbus (some
of my kids went to the bcoats & then on to star... proud "father") but then I
had to move to california and get some real work done so I lost track of all
this technology...

what is state of the art these days? i notice that premier and pearl are
becoming more prevalant, and my old standbys ludwig and slingerland, have
disappeard... premier have these interesting looking things that look like
multi-head snares and I was just curiois about them. 

It was all simpler when BD marched with North Drums...

-- flip
-- 
Flip Phillips					flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
The Ohio State University
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: Trish
Followup-To: news.net-cops.kevin-darcy
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:45:42 GMT

In article <BxHK75.BHz@sdf.lonestar.org> tad@sdf.lonestar.org (Tad Dowe) writes:
>Where is Trish these days? It has been a couple of years since I have read
>the net and I have lost touch. 

You had already lost touch long before you left the net, hon.





---------------
Ah!  First it was a request that we assume no credentials.  Now we are
supposed to assume no *formal* credentials.  Next we are to assume that
Kevin is always right.
				-- q@access.digex.com (The Omnipotent)
				<1992Jan9.091839.6345@access.digex.com>
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From: mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone)
Newsgroups: alt.rissa,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Trish
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:46:32 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Indiana

In article <BxHK75.BHz@sdf.lonestar.org>, tad@sdf.lonestar.org (Tad Dowe) writes:
>
>Where is Trish these days? It has been a couple of years since I have read
>the net and I have lost touch. 
>
>Tad
>
Several months have passed since she last freaked out and
flamed Kevin.  She hasn't sent me any erotic email in the
last few months either.

Melvin M. Gladstone
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: TENS unit for sale
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:48:02 GMT


     I'm selling a portable TENS unit with about 10 hours of use on it.   
It has two output jacks with separate intensity controls, adjustable pulse  
and frequency dials, and 5 different waveform settings, including a pulse  
setting and sine-wave patterns.  The kit includes electrodes and a 9-volt  
NiCad battery with battery charger.  List price for this setup is about  
$950; I'm seeking $275 or best offer.

     For those who don't know what I'm talking about: the TENS unit  
(Transcutaneous Electrical Neural Stimulation) is used mostly for pain  
relief without drugs.  A set of electrodes passes a weak current through a  
muscle area, interfering with the neural impulses that transmit pain.  It  
can also be used to tone muscles, or on the Pulse setting, to build  
muscles to a small extent.  ("Relaxecisers" were sold in the 1960's for  
this purpose, working on exactly the same principle as the TENS.)

     Please send any inquiries to the address below.

TG, lost in Southern California Hell.
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,sci.med
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Zoloft (antidepressant) -- cost compared to Prozac?
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 06:10:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.151906.9104@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>In article <1992Nov9.051340.12598@u.washington.edu> hhll@stein.u.washing
on.edu (Steven Hodas) writes:
>]Yeah, but personally I'd suggest Xanax over the Valium. It's
>How about Buspar? 
>
>
>-- 
>John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-93
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edu
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> - - - "It is better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six." - - -


 Buspar is in a separate pharmacological class if I remembrere correctly.
It's a piperazine that funtions in the realm of serotonin. 
 As for Xanax vs. Valium... Valium wins hands down. Xanax makes me feel
like shit, Valium makes me feel great. (I've had 15mg iv when I had my
nose fixed. Having novocaine shot up your nose is no fun! But the valium
made up for it when it was all over.) Xanax makes me feel like I've been
kicked in the head several times and I just woke up in a dark alley. But
then perhpas this is just my own subjectivity, but I've heard similar
comparisons. As for addictive liability., even though Xanax was reported
to have a lower addictive liability, I have heard of several cases of
Xanax addiction. I would assert that their addictive potentials were about
equal (relative to dosage levels.) Perhaps valium has a higher addiction
potential because it has a higher abuse potential. But I fail to see any
therapeutic benefits to be gained from Xanax over Valium as far as an
anxiolytic goes. Buspar seems a promising choice. Does anyone have any
Buspar testimonies?

St. Anthony

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From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Query: What is Haldol?...
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:30:52 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

lee@soda.berkeley.edu (Lee Thompson-Herbert) writes:

}Please note, that unless one has seen a person _before_ they start
}their downward slide into schizophrenia, one cannot accurately gauge
}the effects of a drug used in treatment.  Also note that flattened
}affect and dullness are common symptoms of schizophrenia, and the
}patient may not be thinking clearly enough to complain about them
}until _after_ the drug has started working.  In other words, some
}of the side-effects of neuroleptics may very well actually be the
}result of _schizophrenia_, not the drugs themselves.

}}I hope you're friend can get off this stuff, or he
}}may never be the same again.

}Again, he may never be the same *anyway*, if he's really and actually
}schizophrenic.

On the other hand, a friend of mine had a schizophrenic episode during
an automobile trip he was taking with me. It mostly involved
disorientation and compulsive purchases, and emotional confusion
(actually, I would have called him confused, as did my former
girl-friend who we stayed with, but he didn't think he was confused at
all, no way!). On his return to Calgary, he took an overdose of drugs
including alcohol, and ended up in the psychiatric ward. When I talked
to his psychiatrist, all of the things I noticed that were peculiar
about his behaviour (a long list), apart from the above, were said by
the psychiatrist to be due to the neroleptics he was taking. My friend
(after his parents and I attested that he was not a danger to himself
or to others) discharged himself, after previously taking himslef off
the drugs (although he thought for some days that he was being given
them in his orange juice). He is still rather odd by anyone's
accounting, and I don't have time for him anymore, but he has been off
neroleptics for 8 years now, and seems much healthier to me. I should
add that he had been in therapy for some 8 years when the incident
occurred, mostly using prescribed neuroleptics and Elavil (and
occasionally Inderol). Perhaps I should also note that at the time I
was told there were only 6 psychiatrists in Calgary for a population
of over 600,000, so his treatment may have been less than adequate.
-- 
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HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: TENS unit for sale
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 13:51:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <23729@galaxy.ucr.edu> tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe) writes:
>     I'm selling a portable TENS unit with about 10 hours of use on it.   

>NiCad battery with battery charger.  List price for this setup is about  
>$950; I'm seeking $275 or best offer.

A list price of $950 is misleading. Even the best TENS units among the
1992 models that require a doctor's prescription cost only $500-$600.

Rather than telling us list price, we are more interested in what you
actually paid for it, and why you are selling it after only 10 hours
of use.

>     For those who don't know what I'm talking about: the TENS unit  
>(Transcutaneous Electrical Neural Stimulation) is used mostly for pain  

We know what TENS is. What we don't know is the brand name and model
of the one you are selling. You didn't include this information.

I have detailed information on TENS units that may be purchased mailorder
with or without prescription. If anyone is interested, post your
inquiry in this newsgroup, and I'll post the information.
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dianetics
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:29:36 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Nov5.203808.1969@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>In article <Bwsx0G.MAw@bagate.BELL-ATL.COM> dfqfrby@shoes.BELL-ATL.COM (Connor) writes:
>
>>If you want another view on this read the firs several chapters of Dianetics
>>I don't agree with Hubbard's views on  "auditting" but his perception
>>into mental disorders coming from emotional disturbances is valid.
>
>Dianetics is pure, absolute BUNK.  L. Ron Hubbard was a pulp Sci-Fi writer who
>came up with the scheme of Dianetics and Scientology in order to make money.
>It's possible he even believed it, but that doesn't make it so.
>
>There is no scientific evidence for "engrams" that are formed in the womb, no
>scientific evidence for an ancient race of space explorers that we are
>descended from, no scientific evidence for the existence of "clears".
>
>Next time you talk to a Scientologist, ask where all the "clears" are.
>
>-Pete Zakel
> (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)
>
>Grelb's Reminder:
>	Eighty percent of all people consider themselves to be above
>	average drivers.

Just to add to this, L. Ron has been linked with some weird shit that
Naval intelligence was doing in the 50's, and through that, to the
huge mass of activities that surr0ound the Kennedy assassination.

But, he once said that he would someday "come up with a scam that would
make P.T. Barnum look like a rank amateur". 
shortly after saying that, he wrote "Dianetics: The Science Of Mental Health"
in THREE WEEKS, and it is by far the worst thing he ever wrote, except
possibly for some later "Scientology" tracts. He took lots of money for
helping people to become "Clears" and when that dried up, He mutated it
into a religion, changed the name to "Scientology", and took more money
from clears who wanted to get to the new "enlightened" state.

Hogwash, is too soft a word.

Love their tv ads though!
					--Judex--