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From: lindner@mudhoney (Paul Lindner)
Subject: New version of go4gw released (1.0)
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:36:51 CDT
Reply-To: lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Distribution: comp

A new version of the ever popular go4gw is now available via anonymous
ftp to boombox.micro.umn.edu as /pub/gopher/Unix/go4gw.tar.Z

New features include:  A better whois parser and a few new scripts:

   g2geo:  for the geographic nameserver running at
           martini.eecs.umich.edu

   g2finger:  For displaying finger information

   g2areacode:  A simple gateway using the areacode program.


Gopher on!

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: torben@foralie.net.hawaii.edu (Torben Noerup Nielsen)
Subject: lost+found
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:14:41 GMT

I just set up a Gopher server and since I used an entire file system for  
the home directory for it, I ended up with a lost+found file as part of  
the listing.

Are there clean ways of getting Gopher to ignore the lost+found directory  
just like it ignores dev, bin and all those? I got mine to ignore it, but  
the only good way I could think of was to modify the gopherd sources to  
simply make it ignore lost+found directories and I don't know if that's a  
reasonable thing to do..... Read: I really would prefer to not have  
lost+found show up in Gopher listings, but I don't want to run a ``hacked"  
version of Gopher....

Thanks, Torben
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Problems compiling gopher 1.02 w/ wais-8-b5
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:09:14 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Aug26.173803.16328@wam.umd.edu> domine@wam.umd.edu (Gil
Funk) writes:
>
> A follow-up article said to recompile AFTER putting /ir and /ui in
> the right spot and removing waisgopher.o and Wais*.o.  I tried this
> with no success.

I did that, with the exception that I made the links before building
*anything*, shortly after 1.02 was released, and it works fine.

mycroft@hal [1]; cd /src/gopher1.02/
mycroft@hal [1]; ls -l
total 52
-rw-r--r--   1 mycroft  staff        1381 Jun 24 20:11 Makefile
-rw-r--r--   1 mycroft  staff        3468 Aug 16 02:02 Makefile.config
-rw-r--r--   1 mycroft  staff        3441 Jul 31 17:06 Makefile.config.orig
-rw-r--r--   1 mycroft  staff        1876 Jun 24 20:14 README
-rw-r--r--   1 mycroft  staff        1855 Jul 13 15:16 conf.h
drwxr-sr-x   2 mycroft  staff         512 Sep  1 15:07 doc/
drwxr-sr-x   3 mycroft  staff         512 Sep  1 15:07 emacs/
drwxr-sr-x   4 mycroft  staff         512 Sep  1 15:07 examples/
drwxr-sr-x   2 mycroft  staff        1024 Sep  1 15:07 gopher/
drwxr-sr-x   2 mycroft  staff        1024 Sep  1 15:07 gopherd/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 mycroft  staff          17 Sep  1 15:07 ir -> /src/wais-8-b5/ir
drwxr-sr-x   2 mycroft  staff         512 Sep  1 15:07 mindexd/
drwxr-sr-x  15 mycroft  staff         512 Sep  1 15:07 misc/
drwxr-sr-x   2 mycroft  staff        1024 Sep  1 15:07 object/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 mycroft  staff          17 Sep  1 15:07 ui -> /src/wais-8-b5/ui
mycroft@hal [1]; 

(Wouldn't it be nice if `tar' and `unzip' actually set modification
times on directories and symlinks correctly?  But that's another
subject.)

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 \   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Are there descriptions for the "Other Systems"?
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:21:15 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Originator: rgc@rac2.wam.umd.edu

Hi,
	Is there any file that breifly describes all the gopher servers available?
I realize that I could go through the "Other Systems" menu and just try
out *everything*, but this would take a long time.  Thanks, Ross.
-- 
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: ccksb@blaze.trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: changing the order of files
Keywords: sort
Organization: Trent University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:58:10 GMT

I'd like to post a series of departmental bulletins and have them appear in
the order of most current to least current.  Bulletins will continuously be
added.  These bulletin files are named in the format yyyy-mm-dd 
(ie: 1992-08-28).  As things stand now the files are listed in the reverse
order (as one might expect with such a naming scheme).

Does someone have a recommendation?  I do not wish to maintain a .cap entry
because this would require changing every entry each time a new bulletin is
posted.  (I've had trouble changing the order of entries
with this method - but htat's another story).

Thanks in advance...
-- 
====================================================================
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Trent University Computer Services                fax: (705)748-1246
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada K9J 7B      internet: kbrown@trentu.ca
From: syrjanen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Seppo Syrjanen)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Gopher and WAIS to serve VMS HELP (.HLP) files?
Summary: Has someone made waisindex and gopherd to understand VMS .HLP files?
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:08:37 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Subject says it all. We have quite a lot of information on VMS HELP
library form, so it'd be nice to feed them directly to gopher.

Or are there any other simple multilevel file formats that gopherd and 
WAIS could use to produce similar functionality (mail folders are too
"flat" (i.e. just one level of hierarchy) for some applications)?

-Seppo

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  Computing Centre, University of Helsinki, Finland   Phone: +358 0 708 4132
  "If it's too loud, you're too old!" -MTV
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:07:56 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Webster Clients
Distribution: na

O.K.  Apparently there is are several Webster servers available.  Does
anyone know of a Webster client for the Macintosh?  Thanks.

Jeff Luck
CES Systems Office
Penn State University
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: kalal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob Kalal)
Subject: PC Gopher client on a Banyan LAN
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:16:27 GMT

We've been working with Gopher servers and clients here
with quite a bit of success, but have run across a
difficulty recently. A faculty member trying Gopher
from a PC on a Banyan LAN has reported that he can't
get anything working with his client. Our experience
with some other LANs such as LAN Manager has been good.
We're going to get over to his Banyan next week to examine
the configuation, etc. But we're wondering if anyone out
there has any experience running with a Banyan LAN or
can give us any pointers.

Thanks....

Bob Kalal
"The" Ohio State University
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: mahesh@numenor.next.nd.edu (Mahesh "BigMan" Subramanya)
Subject: Help:   Campus webster server
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:30:57 GMT

We're trying to implement a university-wide webster server (gatewayed into  
gopher) , and it seems that we need a license to run the dictionary across  
multiple platforms.
However, Mirriam-Webster sez that they have *nothing* to do with  
electronic implementations of Webster (except for the NeXT), and as far as  
they are concerned, they are *all* illegal unless used for natural  
language research

	So..., *WHO* do I get a license from?  Could any of you'all who  
have webster implementations on campus please let me know?  I'll be  
forever in your debt, clean yore shoes, etc., etc.

--
*****************        DALEKS RULE        *********************
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Senior Analyst                
Office of University Computing
University of Notre Dame        Voice:    (219) 239-5600  x6421
Notre Dame,  IN  46556
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier)
Subject: Looking for Installation Guide !!
Organization: Communication Networks
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:27:54 GMT

Hi,

I have many problem with the installation of gopher. I herad about an Installation
Guide for gopher. Is there someone, who can inform me where to get this guide?

Thanks in advance,

    Frank
    
    
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Communication Networks, Technical University of Aachen   | --v-^-v-^-v-^-v--
  Phone: +49-241-807921       Fax: +49-241-84964         |   N   E   T   S
  Email: broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de                         | RWTH Aachen, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: matt@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: The 'chroot' vs. the 'data directory'
Keywords: chroot gopher
Organization: Chicago Superconductivity Center - "Resistance is useless!"
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:06:08 GMT

) Vikas Aggarwal:
) >As an example, most of my anonymous ftp, gopher, wais stuff is under
) >'/public'. Now, it would be nice if I could specify that the chroot
) >be done to '/public', but the data directory be '/public/gopher/data'.

Budi Rahardjo:
) You could also put 'unwanted' docs (eg. wais index stuff) under
) /public/bin, /public/etc, /public/dev ... etc.
) 
) Or just use the -c option :-)

I'm new here, but wouldn't this work (if needed executables are in,
for example, /public/bin)?

	# chroot /public /bin/gopherd -c /gopher/data
________________________________________________________
Matt Crawford       crawdad@fncent.fnal.gov      Fermilab
From: lindner@mudhoney (Paul Lindner)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Gopher Magazines, Journals, etc...
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu.
Distribution: comp
Original-To: resource-discussion@unt.edu
Original-Cc: gopher-news@boombox.micro
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I've long ago given up on keeping track of all the journals that are
available in gopher.

Right now I'm mirroring the list kept at gopher.unt.edu.

Would the administrator please stand up, take a bow and and agree to
keep track of these beasties?

I'm too busy to do it myself and am hoping that someone will take the
initiative and become a maintainer of the links to these services. 

Any takers?

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 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | GopherMaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: rzgl@helios.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Gerald Lange)
Subject: Re: gopher and hytelnet
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:38:04 GMT

scott@sklib.usask.ca wrote:
: Gerald Lange writes:
: 
: >I wonder if anybody tried to make a connection between Hytelnet
: >and Gopher...
: 
: The ONLY Gophers which will be listed in HYTELNET are those that are
: accessible by telnet at a user's local prompt. I have no intention of
: listing EVERY Gopher in the world. I have to sleep sometimes.....

I feel I have to add a comment to my question: sorry, that my English 
wasn't sophisticated enough to express what I had in mind.
I highly appreciate your work and I never wanted to burden you - or
anyone else - with additional wishes.
We have been thinking about something like a gateway, automagically
converting Hytelnet-files, starting Hytelnet in the Gopher-environment
..,  and my question was just to hear if someone else has become
more concrete.

Thank you again for your efforts - and for your answer,

Gerald

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Computing Centre
Erzstr. 51                                   Phone:            +49 5323/72-2352
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Germany
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: cearley_k@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: NextStation Server Performance
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:38:07 MST


Does anyone know from experience, heresay or conjecture (in order of
preference) roughly how many concurrent gopher clients a NextStation
Turbo with 32MB can support? How about assuming all of them are 
doing indexed searches? Any comparisons available on performance in
relation to a 486 server?

	-Thanks
	-Kent Cearley
	 University of Colorado, Boulder
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: How does Search do sub-string searches?
From: Thomas J Cozzolino <RBNTJC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:18:53 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

When I search gopher news for information, I get sub-string matches on my
input, which is great!

I assumed Gopherd used WAIS for its searches, but I was told that WAIS does
not support sub-string searches.  Is this true?  If so, how does Gopher
return sub-string hits?

Is there a WAIS patch I need to fix my gopherd server?  I'm currently running
"vanilla" 1.02 gopherd/gopher.

Many thanks.

+============================================+
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|     necessarily those of Rohm and Haas Company      =
+======================================================+
From: lindner@mudhoney (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Unix gopher 1.03 now available
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:27:02 CDT
Reply-To: lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Distribution: comp

Gopher for UNIX, server and client and other goodies is now available.

To get it:

anonymous ftp to boombox.micro.umn.edu, get the fine
/pub/gopher/Unix/gopher1.03.tar.Z 

Use gopher to go connect to boombox (one way is through Info about
Gopher, Gopher Software Distribution, Unix, gopher1.03.tar.Z)

Mostly bug fixes, with a few nifty new features, including binary
transfer for WAIS stuff, support for type I (the official gopher image
type.).

I've also added a nifty indexing script in misc/Indexing that works
quite well for making WAIS indices.

Here are the changes:

Client Changes from v1.02 to v1.03
----------------------------------

The client can now interrupt searches using Control-c.  However this
can be buggy.  The current position on the screen isn't quite updated
properly, and things will probably break if you're reading a long
directory....

Gopher now looks in the "Name" instead of the "path" to find a default
name to save in..  Works for WAIS docid things.

Client can now view images.  There is a new environment variable
GOPHER_IMAGE.  It's a little different than the patch that's already
out there.

Searches in a menu (the / command) are now case insensitive.

PagerCommand is now saved.  PAGER still takes precedence, though.

Fixed bogus out of memory error when mailing a file.

Added casts to each and every malloc();

Changed name of PC binary files to PCBIN instead of HQX, confusing at
best...


Server Changes from v1.02 to v1.03
----------------------------------

Added lost+found and lib to the list of directories mapped out.
Eventually this will be replaced by a gopherd.conf file.

gopherls will now list out the correct host, instead of NULL.

Binary files now work for the ftp-gateway in the server.
(mahilata@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) Added Image and sound support
to the gateway as well.

You no longer have to play with the Path= portion in a .cap entry if
you want something to be treated as a binary (9) or Search (7).
The server does it right.

Server recognizes gifs as Type I irregardless of extension.

WAIS searches can now return binary type data.  For now it's just
returned as Type 9.  However Type I and s can be hacked in pretty
easily.


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 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | GopherMaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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Xref: sparky comp.infosystems.gopher:336 gnu.emacs.help:3911
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: GNU info and gopher?
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:08:44 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Aug31.012417.7354@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki
Kuoppala) writes:
>
> Has anyone integrated GNU info and gopher?  It would simplify
> maintenance of the info files a lot to have just one machine to
> maintain the files in rather than a separate info dir on each
> machine.
>
> I see several possibilities to do this:

5. Use an Info <--> World Wide Web gateway, which is more appropriate
for the task, and which doesn't force you to lose functionality in
either viewer or keep extra files around.

-- 
 \   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: xgopher and the .gopherrc file
Keywords: xgopher gopher bookmarks .gopherrc
Date: 25 Aug 92 07:45:35 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <14711@borg.cs.unc.edu>, hoffman@cs.unc.edu (Doug Hoffman) writes:
|> Am I missing something or is the .gopherrc file NOT used by the xgopher
|> client
|> program?  I was under the impression that bookmarks would be stored in the
|> .gopherrc file so that they would be rememberd between sessions.  This
|> doesn't
|> seem to happen.  Am I (not) doing something simple/obvious or is this feature
|> not
|> supported by the xgopher?

Xgopher does not use the .gopherrc file (though it should do IMHO).
The .gopherrc stuff was added to the curses client only relatively recently
if I remember correctly.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: tuchman@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Allan Tuchman)
Subject: Re: xgopher and .gopherrc
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:53:53 GMT

As someone just noted, Xgopher does not yet support saving bookmarks
across sessions.  It will do so in the next release.  It will have
several other additions that people have requested.  There will be
a slight restructuring to prepare for connections to Gopher+ servers,

-Allan Tuchman
-- 
-Allan Tuchman    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: gopher and CDROMS
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:36:15 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

I want to make a CD-ROM available for gopher access, as FTP-able
items.  Is it possible to incorporate a non-writable medium into the
gopher structure?

Nat
(gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz -- Nathan Torkington -- is the electronic text and
 MS-DOS archivist for the Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: Farhad Anklesaria <fxa@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Gopher+ clarification needed
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:05:18 GMT



In article <7198@lib.tmc.edu> Steven E. Newton,
snewton@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu writes:
>In section 2.3 of the enhancements paper it says
>'The server may return an error also, as in:
>
>--1<CRLF><data><CRLF>.<CRLF>'
>
>At the bottom of the page, it lists three error codes:
>
>	1	Item is not available
>	2	Try again later ("eg. My load is too high right now.")
>	3	Item has moved.  Following the error-code is the gopher descriptor
>		of where it now lives.
>
>My question then is this.  Would the error return look like this:
>
>--1
>2Try again later
>.
>
>or would it be
>
>--2
>Try again later
>.
>
>My guess is the latter, because that's the only neat way to handle error
3.
>Additionally, Paul's NQBNF section doesn't clarify this because it shows
>
>Success  ::= '+' | '-'.
>
>
>Eagerly awaiting wisdom,

Try out the reference Gopher+ server running on yoyo.micro.umn.edu at 
port 2000.  Make it return you an error.  For that matter, try out
the reference Gopher+ (mac) client... :-)
But to answer your question directly, the server would return exactly:

--1<CRLF>
3 1The New Foo<TAB>the new
selector<TAB>newHostName<TAB>newPort<TAB>+<CRLF>
The item Foo has been moved to another Gopher server.<CRLF>
Look on the Bogus University server in the New stuff folder.<CRLF>
The item is now called The New Foo.<CRLF>.<CRLF>

Or for the error message you used:
--1<CRLF>
2<CRLF>
Load too high right now.  Please try again later.<CRLF>.<CRLF>

Hope this makes it clearer...

F.
--
Farhad Xerxes Anklesaria
Gopher Maven-In-Residence
Microcomputer Research Group
University of Minnesota
fxa@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Problems with 2 MB Ram
From: hippo@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:40:22 PDT
Organization: Sonoma state university

We have here about 20 PS/2 model 80 Running Dos 3.3 with 2 MB of Ram. 
Also loaded is IPX (For Packet Driver). When I try to run telnet from Gopher 
I get the message that there is not engouh memory ? Why ? Is it Fixable ?(We 
can not buy more memory right now or update to DOS 5.0)
Thank you
Michel
From: bill@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Using mail to provide gopher data, even simpler (fwd)
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:36:52 GMT
Distribution: comp
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
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>From: mahilata@vogon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Earthworm society)
>Subject: Using mail to provide gopher data, even simpler
>
>This works even simpler
>
>We learned how to get our mailer to deliver mail right to a file,
>by way of an alias, so we may send mail to a "user" which is
>that file. gopherd handles that file as a directory, much as
>a mail program, subject lines are the titles then.
>
>We have here smail, and there the "aliases" file contains the lines
>
>testfile: /tmp/testfile
>matlab-news: /PeoplesLibrary/gopherd/Matlab/Matlab-News
>PC-news: /PeoplesLibrary/gopherd/Matlab/PC-News
>
>The only condition is that the files *must* be owned by "nobody"

This works with sendmail too.  I don't understand the final requirement,
all we seem to require is that the files have group write permission for 
group mail.

But of course all the headers get included, which is a mess.  Does
anyone have a simple way to filter them out?
-- 
Bill Silvert at the Bedford Institute of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2
InterNet Address: bill@biome.bio.ns.ca
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher