HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Mixing big fonts with little ones
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:34:48 GMT
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353
In-reply-to: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu's message of 5 Oct 92 21:13:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.211346.28388@ra.msstate.edu> mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb) writes:

   Is it possible to mix Font sizes on a line / lines such that the Larger type
   is as large as two or three lines of the smaller text.  
   (two or three lines of the smaller text using the same space as one of Large text)

   poor ascii example:    |\  /| ath
						  | \/ | eans 
						  |    | ore

   [stuff deleted]

The way to do this is to put the drop cap in a frame anchored at the
beginning of the first line (i.e. before the "a" in "Math").  Make the
frame an Overlay or Underlay, and use the Misc->Shape command to
change the indentation on the para so that the text runs around the
frame properly.  Note that the drop cap is not part of the word "Math"
(or any other word), so you'll get spelling errors on "ath" and
"eans".  There used to be an example of how to do this in the
Interleaf tutorials (the one where you build a newsletter); I don't
know if it's still there.

Good luck,
==========================================================================
L = dave madden                         i don't know about your brain, = L
  = dave@gcosaka.goldcoast.co.jp        but mine is really ... bossy.  =
P =      gold coast productions                       l. anderson      = P
  =      4-2-9 kyutaro-cho 3f                                          =
F =      chuo-ku, osaka japan 541                                      = F
============[country code 81]=vox:6-241-6353=fax:6-241-0189===============
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Incorporating case in component properties
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:20:44 GMT
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353
In-reply-to: sehamb01@vulcan.spd.louisville.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 21:22:45 GMT

Steve Hamburg writes:
 =>I was wondering if you could set up the properties of a paragraph in such a
 =>way that you can make the text being typed in the document area appear as
 =>upper case.  

Yes: open the component's property sheet and set "Map->to All Caps" on
the Text Props line (at the bottom of the Format section).

Regards,
==========================================================================
L = dave madden                         i don't know about your brain, = L
  = dave@gcosaka.goldcoast.co.jp        but mine is really ... bossy.  =
P =      gold coast productions                       l. anderson      = P
  =      4-2-9 kyutaro-cho 3f                                          =
F =      chuo-ku, osaka japan 541                                      = F
============[country code 81]=vox:6-241-6353=fax:6-241-0189===============
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: eddieb@ERC.MsState.Edu (Eddie Brown)
Subject: Interleaf PS/EPS Ponderance
Organization: Mississippi State University - Microsystems Prototyping Lab
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:33:30 GMT


We've been using Interleaf for several years now and our number one
problem has been making Interleaf's "PostScript" output print
properly. It was a minor nuisance with the old Apple printers and then
it became a big problem when we went to Sun SPARCprinters and
NewsPrint. Most of the problems were solved with some sort of patch,
upgrade, or kludge, but, there has always been things that you
"should" be able to do with the output, that you can do with
PostScript from other applications, but not Interleaf. We just
upgraded to Interleaf 5.3 and I decided to try and export a document
page from Interleaf into another package using the EPS file option.
Of course, it didn't work. None of the other applications will take
the Interleaf EPS, yet they can exchange EPS files back and forth and
Interleaf will accept EPS from the applications.

All of which brings me to the question, is there something
non-standard/funky/incorrect about Interleaf "PostScript" output or is
there just something wrong with the universe?


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      CAD/Systems Administrator        USmail: P. O. Box 6176
 Microsystem Prototyping Laboratory	       Miss. State, MS 39762
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					  Fax: 601-325-3626
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: TPS 4.0 and sun type 5 keyboard
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:19:19 GMT

In article <yilmazer.718531647@sunw38> yilmazer@alcatel.co.at (Sedat Yilmazer) writes:
> I have type us_5 keyboard on my sun4 station. When I try starting Interleaf
>4.0 (ok it is not the latest version!) I get keyboard map error. What should 
>I do?

Just when you thought you were learning to type.....The new TYPE 5 keyboard!

Interleaf has a -keyboard startup option for non-standard keyboards.

The choices in 5.3 are:  apollo,aviion,dec,hp,rs6000,sun_type3,sun_type4,none

Try 'ileaf -keyboard none'.

....oh, you're using 4.0.  I don't know if this was a 4.0 feature.

Or maybe you could use xmodmap to fool Interleaf into thinking you have a
keyboard that supports all sun_type4 features, in all the right places.

Hey Interleaf- I guess it's time for a -keyboard sun_type 5 option, huh?

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
From: jamie@snips.harvard.edu (James M. Pelagatti)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Interleaf on the Mac
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:28:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: early-bi.1bknp3INNt14
Distribution: world
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy - Harvard Medical School
NNTP-Posting-Host: snips.dfci.harvard.edu

In regards to Interleaf on the Mac, I have been trying to find this out for 
many months now. I'll tell what I know since no one at Interleaf seems
interested in informing us. The saga may be interesting to everyone. (Or maybe
not!)

Interleaf has been available on the Mac in a form called Interleaf Publisher
which is some sort of not-quite-full subset of Interleaf 3.x, I think. This
is probably still available.

Last December, I spoke to some Interleaf sales people and was told that the
full Interleaf package (version 5) was being ported to the Mac and would be
available in February. I have a letter from a later date that says Interleaf
5 would be available in "late Winter 1992". 

At this time I got a hardware specifications sheet for Interleaf 5 on the
Apple Macintosh which goes into complete detail about how much memory you
need, what O.S. you need, swap space, what models it will run on, etc. It was
date 9/23/91.

In the Spring of this year, I got some updated forms and such from Interleaf
and noticed that Macintosh had disappeared from the list of Interleaf 5 
platforms. I spoke to an Interleaf person who knew nothing about it but she
put me on hold for 10 minutes as she apparently checked all over for offical
word from their Macintosh experts. The answer was: in 30 days, we will have
an assessment meeting to determine the release date.

By this point, it was clear they were having serious problems with moving
Interleaf 5 to the Macs and so I let things lie for awhile.

Recently, on this newsgroup, a fellow from Interleaf gave some information
about the PC/DOS version of Interleaf. I figured I'd send him a private note
asking if he knew anything about the Macintosh version. It has been over 3
weeks since I sent him that Email and he has not responded. 

Finally, today, we spoke to a sales person over at Interleaf and she said that
they have no idea when there will be a version of Interleaf 5 on the Macintosh.

That's the whole sad story.
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(617) 735-8774  | level 1, room 404 | Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
------------------------------------| 50 Binney Street
Email:  jamie@tpc1.dfci.harvard.edu | Boston, Massachusetts 02115
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: rothman@tegra.com
Subject: Ethernet printing protocols
Organization: Tegra, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:55:26 GMT

I am employed by a manufacturer of PostScript imagesetters. Some of our
PostScript imagesetters accept only EtherTalk   input when attached to an
ethernet network. While there are several methods that allow unix systems to
talk to EtherTalk devices, it might be beneficial for our imagesetters to
accept files in some more native tcp/ip protocol (such as FTP, TFTP, LPR/LPD).
If a PostScript imagesetter manufacturer were to add an additional protocol to
an EtherTalk-only machine, what would any of you suggest as the best protocol
(and why)? Thanks for your responses by posting or email.
==================================================================
email: rothman@tegra.com *** CIS: 72120,2747 *** FAX: 508-663-7082
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Interleaf Filters
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:02:40 GMT

cray89@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Chittaranjan Ray) publicly declared:
>I would like know ways to produce a CGM/TIF file from Interleaf,
>especially for equations and charts.

This is only a guess, especially since I've never heard of a "CGM
file".  Since you mention it in the same breath as a TIF file I'll
assume it's a graphics format.

Try this:  Save the document as a PostScript file.  I believe Ileaf 5.x
can do this directly; those of us still on 4.3 print as PrinterLeaf and
use the pltops utility.

Next, use GhostScript (available from GNU ftp sites everywhere) to
convert the file to PBM (Portable Bit Map) format.  Use a resolution of
about 300 dpi or whatever matches your printer best.

Lastly, use the PBMPLUS utilities to convert the PBM file to darned
near any graphics file format you can think of.  (I don't see that
PBMPLUS handles CGM format, but it does handle TIFF format.)  PBMPLUS
is also available at a ton o' ftp sites.

It's the long way around, but hopefully it'll work for you.  I do
something very similar to create fax image files from Interleaf
documents.  If you're handy at writing shell scripts you can probably
automate the entire process to a single command.

Good luck!

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: yilmazer@alcatel.co.at (Sedat Yilmazer)
Subject: TPS 4.0 and sun type 5 keyboard
Organization: Alcatel - Elin Research Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:07:27 GMT

 I have type us_5 keyboard on my sun4 station. When I try starting Interleaf
4.0 (ok it is not the latest version!) I get keyboard map error. What should 
I do?


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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: 6243590@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Incorporating case in component properties
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 20:09:47 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

<I was wondering if you could set up the properties of a paragraph in such a
<way that you can make the text being typed in the document area appear as
<upper case.

<Steve Hamburg.
<sehamb01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu


The function you use is "map to all Caps".  Open the component property sheet
and put your cursor in the "Text Props Default" box on the botton of the
format property sheet. Then use your mouse menu button the access the list
of text properties you can set. Slide off Map>>All Caps and you're set. Now
only capital letters can be input into that component. Check out the other
text defaults you can set, you might see something else you can use.
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: WEBER@JEDI.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Kevin Weber)
Subject: Re: Opening documents without invoking Interleaf
Followup-To: comp.text.interleaf
Organization: 78-30
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:12:20 GMT

In article <DAVE.92Oct8163737@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp>,
dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden) wrote:
> 
> In article <Bvq1D1.1CM@apollo.hp.com> pgb@apollo.HP.COM (Patrick Bigos) writes:
> >   I was wondering if it is possible to open an Interleaf
> >   document without actually invoking the whole Interleaf
> >   Process.  Is there a command within either tps or ileaf5
> >   that allows you to use a filename.doc as the arguement
> >   to bring up just enough of Interleaf to open a single
> >   document.  When the doc gets closed Ileaf should not
> >   be running.  If anyone can help me I would be greatly
> >   appreciative.
> 
Of course WorldView can be used, even though it is an I/L product, it
doesn't invoke the pub software. I think it can be used on systems which do
not contain the core I/L pub software.  WorldView allows review and
comment, but does not allow editing of the document.  We use it as part of
the formal review process, and it is invoked automatically through I/L RDM.
 But can also reside alone, and be invoked directly.

kevin weber
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Opening documents without invoking Interleaf
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:37:37 GMT
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353
In-reply-to: pgb@apollo.HP.COM's message of 6 Oct 92 22:34:13 GMT

In article <Bvq1D1.1CM@apollo.hp.com> pgb@apollo.HP.COM (Patrick Bigos) writes:
>   I was wondering if it is possible to open an Interleaf
>   document without actually invoking the whole Interleaf
>   Process.  Is there a command within either tps or ileaf5
>   that allows you to use a filename.doc as the arguement
>   to bring up just enough of Interleaf to open a single
>   document.  When the doc gets closed Ileaf should not
>   be running.  If anyone can help me I would be greatly
>   appreciative.

What do you want to do with the document?  In I5, there are command
line switches to print and resave documents; if you use one of them
Interleaf comes up, does its stuff, and goes away.  You can also
specify a desktop-relative document name on the command line and when
Interleaf starts up, it will open the doc automatically.  Finally, if
you want to operate on a document with a lisp program but not display
anything, you could use the -batch option.  There's no way to get a
document to open in an X-window without the Interleaf desktop behind
it.

==========================================================================
L = dave madden                         i don't know about your brain, = L
  = dave@gcosaka.goldcoast.co.jp        but mine is really ... bossy.  =
P =      gold coast productions                       l. anderson      = P
  =      4-2-9 kyutaro-cho 3f                                          =
F =      chuo-ku, osaka japan 541                                      = F
============[country code 81]=vox:6-241-6353=fax:6-241-0189===============
From: conradl@fairway.Corp.Sun.COM (Conrad Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: printing problem
Date: 15 Oct 1992 21:59:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: fairway.corp.sun.com

I just received a .Z document via email. The sender said its TPS documentation.
I moved this .Z file into ~/desktop and then uncompressed it.
I loaded it into interleaf v5 and all was ok.
When I printed it however, interleaf tells me 'the document has been sent
to name' (name being my printer) but all that comes out on the printer 
is my header page.

lpq tells me the document is there but it doesn't print and then is removed
from the spool que.

My local interleaf user cannot recogize a problem, 

Any ideas????
I'm running OWV3 and sending it to a lazer writer.

Conrad

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: ed@smos.com (Life at hard labor - but no ball and chain)
Subject: PS to EPS ??
Organization: S-MOS, Inc
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:13:02 GMT


Is there any way to convert the PostScript output from my
schematic capture tool (ECS) into EPS so that I can make
the schematics part of the document.

I can capture the schematic as a bitmap image and load it
in, but this is tedious, and prints REAL slowly.

Someone mentioned to me having seen a utility floating around
the net called PS2EPS ?   

Could anyone give me some info on this or another method ?

Thanks,

Ed

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Research & Development Center
S-MOS Systems
(408)954-0120 x 3512
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: memory leaks, and `disk leaks', too!
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:40:29 GMT

I've ranted and raved about ileaf5.3's memory leaks before, and how
ileaf never seems to give back used memory.  "I can't print anymore",
my users say, and I tell them to restart ileaf, and everything works
again.

But that's not what I'm complaining about today....

Today, it's that .deskprint directory that bugs me.  Not that 777 mode
that many of you complain about, but the leftover files in it that
never get cleaned.  5 of my users on one home partition ran out of disk
space.  Since they are heavy ileaf users, in desperation I checked their
~/desktop/.deskprint directories.  I found 40 Mb of garbage! -- old files
that had been printed, or had failed to be printed, and were never removed.

I added the following lines to root's crontab file:
#
#       clean up ileaf users' .deskprint directories
#
33 3 * * 0 find /export/home/*/desktop/.deskprint -type f -mtime +5 -exec /bin/rm -f {} \;

I invite the rest of you to do the same.

Interleaf- if you can't fix this, at least mention it in the "Reclaiming
Space on a Disk" section of the sysadmin manual.

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: PS to EPS ??
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:52:40 GMT

In article 28181@smos.com, ed@smos.com (Life at hard labor - but no ball and chain) writes:
>
>Is there any way to convert the PostScript output from my
>schematic capture tool (ECS) into EPS so that I can make
>the schematics part of the document.
>
>I can capture the schematic as a bitmap image and load it
>in, but this is tedious, and prints REAL slowly.
>
>Someone mentioned to me having seen a utility floating around
>the net called PS2EPS ?   
>
>Could anyone give me some info on this or another method ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ed
>
>-- 
>Ed Martinage
>Research & Development Center
>S-MOS Systems
>(408)954-0120 x 3512


Suggestion: if possible, get Interleaf 5.3 (if you got already 5.2, this
should not be a problem). In Interleaf 5.3 you can print a document as
an EPS-File to your desktop, and I think that is what you want.

Hope this helps, Michael


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# Institut fr Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik und Informationsverarbeitung
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#
# phone +49-511-762-5312 / fax +49-511-762-5312
# email wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
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From: dhtucker@digi.lonestar.org (Doug Tucker)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: WANTED: LaTeX -> Ileaf5 filter
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:02:09 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

Subject line says it all: I'm looking for a filter to convert
LaTeX .tex files to Interleaf's metalanguage.  
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: David N. Howard <howard@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: RDM Configuration
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F87EAD2E012804@dhoward.etdesg.trw.com>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 11:46:53 GMT
Organization: TRW, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:31:39 GMT

Does anyone actively use Interleaf's RDM document configuration product?

Is there another network group where that might be discussed if this is
not
the proper forum?

Thanks.

Dave Howard
howard@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: eddieb@ERC.MsState.Edu (Eddie Brown)
Subject: HP PaintJet XL300 w PostScript
Organization: Mississippi State University - Microsystems Prototyping Lab
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:54:01 GMT


	Does anyone have a printer PPD file for the HP PaintJet
	XL 300 with the Adobe Level 2 PostScript cartridge?
--



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            Eddie Brown			Email: eddieb@erc.msstate.edu
      CAD/Systems Administrator        USmail: P. O. Box 6176
 Microsystem Prototyping Laboratory	       Miss. State, MS 39762
    Mississippi State University  	Phone: 601-325-1607
					  Fax: 601-325-3626
***********************************************************************
"Starkville, MS - The SPONTANEOUS CONFUSION (tm) Capital of the World!"
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Rotating Text?
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:28:20 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353
In-reply-to: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu's message of 5 Oct 92 21:02:09 GMT

You can rotate text with the following restrictions:

1. The text has to be in a frame.
2. You can only rotate text strings (not microdocs).
3. You can only rotate in 90-degree increments.  (If you convert the
   text to an outline [Misc->Convert->To Outline->...], you can rotate
   it freely, but you can't edit it as text any more.)

To get the text going up vertically at the edge of a paragraph, you'll
have to create a frame anchored at the beginning of the para and set
its props so that it is displayed in the right place.  Put your
rotated text into this frame.

Good luck,
==========================================================================
L = dave madden                         i don't know about your brain, = L
  = dave@gcosaka.goldcoast.co.jp        but mine is really ... bossy.  =
P =      gold coast productions                       l. anderson      = P
  =      4-2-9 kyutaro-cho 3f                                          =
F =      chuo-ku, osaka japan 541                                      = F
============[country code 81]=vox:6-241-6353=fax:6-241-0189===============