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From: cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: Stephen King - The Raft
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:23:00 GMT

In article <38410@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Dean) writes:
>In article <93023.210742PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> PB5329A@auvm.american.edu (Patrick Barton) writes:
>>Actually it was CreepShow 2, in which King was a truck driver I believe...
>>(I think...I'm not sure...well, maybe not...any confirmation?)
>
>He was a bus driver in The Golden Years (maybe that's what you're thinking of,
>or maybe not).
>
>-Kevin

He was both.  I forgot about "The Golden Years" thing (who couldn't...)
But he *was* a truck driver in CreepShow 2.

Ron

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mgb@slipknot.mit.edu (Michael G. Baker)
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:51:33 GMT

jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:

>This one hot off the rumor mill.  Donald M. Grant and Stephen King
>have confirmed, due to lack of sales on the paperback editions, that
>the Dark Tower series will NOT be continued.  Apparently while the
>limited editions of the Dark Tower sold fairly well, sales of the
>paperback were abysmal.  And, as everyone knows, you don't make much
>money off of limited editions.
>  Personally I think this is a terrible mistake on King's part.  He is
>alienating those fans of his that LIKED the Dark Tower series (myself
>included).  I would certainly like to see the ending which he's had in
>mind for so long.   Secondly, when it comes to Stephen King, money
>should not be a factor.  The man is rich.  If Donald M. Grant makes
>money off the series (which he does...  At least more than most of his limited
>editions...), he should continue publishing them in that fashion until
>done.  
>  The problem with the paperback sales it seemed to me was market
>saturation.  Too many copies printed.  The different covers didn't
>help either.  That just encouraged dealers to order more and have more
>copies stuck around on the shelves.  What we need is lower paper-back
>print runs for this series.  Give the large print runs to his main
>stream books, while only printing enough to satisfy fan demand out
>there.  You only need to print 10000 or so books to clear a profit
>(and really that is being very generous.  I know of some authors whose
>print runs of 3000 or so still net a profit), and there's got to be
>more than 10,000 fans of the series out there....
>  Reactions?  Comments?  What did most people out there think of this
>series?



	Oh please say it ain't so!!!!!  I love the Dark Tower series.  I
was anxiously awaiting news on the next one.  I guess I got it but I
don't like it.

   



-- 
Michael G. Baker mgb@slipknot.mit.edu Voice:(617)253-4161 Fax:(617)253-5405  
Francis Bitter National Magnet Laboratory, Cambridge, MA  USA
    
     Remember. . . you can't have everything because where would you keep it.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Last night's Rosanne episode
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:54:11 GMT

steinman@me.utoronto.ca  writes:
> mlperkin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mildred l perkins) writes:
> 
> >Did anyone else notice that Darlene was reading "Interview With the
> >Vampire" while "working" at her mom's loose meat counter?  I thought it
> >was pretty funny, really.  While she's making SUCH a stink about being a
> >vegetarian and fighting the meat industry, she's reading a book about
> >blood-suckers.
> 
> I didn't notice, but it was either a) Sara Gilbert's own choice so she'd
> look hip or b) the writers' statement about most vegetarians' hypocrisy.
> --
> Dave!
Maybe it just fit the Darlene's charachter.  It wouldn't do for her to be 
something like "Alice in Wonderland" or some of the other trash that so
many teenagers read.  "Interview" or any of the other Chronicles, as well as
King and Barker would've been good choices.

EtSA
-- 
"Why should I have nightmares?  I give them to you." -- Stephen King

SIC GORGIAMUS ALLOS SUBJECTOS NUNC -- We gladly feast on those who would 
subdue us. -- Addams Family Motto (as heard in the movie)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmichl@iiic.ethz.ch (Mosh)
Subject: Clive Barker's "The forbidden"
Originator: dmichl@d15
Keywords: Candyman
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:46:42 GMT

 I recently saw the movie "Candyman" and liked it. You all know the plot is
based on a story by Clive Barker called "The forbidden" But where can I find
this short story? It isn't part of one of the "Books of blood", is it?
Paperback edition preferred, thanks!
-- 
                                   ,,,
             Mosh                 (o o)         Dennis "the menace" Michl
  ----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------
  dmichl@iiic.ethz.ch					EZINFO::AMIGA_MGR
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1993Jan25.184403.22708@news.unomaha.edu>, werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner) writes:

>_King says_ that his ID as Bachman was discovered by a nosy reporter and by a 
>couple of hints that were left incidentally...Also according to King, Bachman's
>next book (_Misery_) was to be released in hardcover (hardly the sign of an
>author who can't get sales).
 
Actually, I have a copy of _Thinner_ in hardcover, complete with the picture
on the backcover of Bachman himself.

- Greg
-- 
Greg Cagle | greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Mentor Graphics Corporation
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:54:16 GMT

hey noIn article 6069@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.224024.14889@scott.skidmore.edu> jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
money off of limited editions.
  
> Gee, you mean SK isn't in it for the artistic value of his work?
> Heavens.  SK is a mass-market hack.  He pulled crap like this before
> with the Bachman book Thinner.  When sales were abysmil for the first
> few months, he came out and laid claim to the work and sales picked up.
> His work is geared for mass consumption and he is used to staggering
> press-runs so when he has a flop on his hands it doesn't surprise me
> that he drops it without regard for its possible merrit.
> 
> 	-Phil
> 
> -- 
> PHIL SCARR        \      We are Microsoft...     /          (o) 804.243.0229
>  University of    /     OS/2 is irrelevant.      \          (f) 804.243.0290
>  Virginia,        \     UNIX is irrelevant.      /        prs9k@Virginia.EDU
>  Neurosurgery     /     Openness is futile.      \     prs9k@Virginia.BITNET
>  HP-UX is my life!\ Prepare to be assimilated... /   ...uunet!virginia!prs9k


u are so far from the truth it is disgusting.
king made an elaborate effort to keep his identity secret. he made phoney 
editors and publishers, gave bachman a phoney past et al. 
some jerk figured it out and blew his cover, buy writing and finding out that king 
was bachman.
get your facts straight before defaming someone. sounds like jealousy. if u
dont like the man dont read his books. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: Remakes of Old Classics - Yet Another!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:47:26 GMT

In article <C19KC7.41s@DMI.USherb.CA> bourp00@DMI.USherb.CA (PIERRE BOURBONNAIS) writes:
>What is this all about? TWO remakes of FRANKENSTEIN? I need more info..
>
>Please , I would like some answers...
>
From the etrernal grindings of the rumor mill...
FFC's dream was to create a trilogy of remakes of classic gothic tales, which
were supposed to be the truest telling of the stories to date. 
Unfortuanately (or fortunately, as you look at it), he was so pissed at the
studio's desire to take control of these projects, that he surrendered rights 
to direct them, and took up the role of executive producer.  The two movies,
Frankenstein and The Invisible Man then went to the most gifted directors 
FFC could find.  _Frankenstein_ went fast.  It will be directed by Kenneth
Brannagh, with him playing in the starring role.  After seeing him play 
Roman in _Dead_Again,_  I must say that this is a very, very good thing.  He
can capture the mood PERFECTLY.  Emma Thomas will probably play his fiance, 
which isd great, since we get to see her _die!_  No word yet on who's doing
the invisible man.  

-- 
I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
wasn't this one...	       	    / It's a Zen thing... 
	-Ozymandias 		    \	 you wouldn't understand...  
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mlperkin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mildred l perkins)
Subject: Last night's Rosanne episode
Summary: Darlene reads a book
Keywords: Vegetarianism vs Vampirism
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:04:11 GMT

Did anyone else notice that Darlene was reading "Interview With the
Vampire" while "working" at her mom's loose meat counter?  I thought it
was pretty funny, really.  While she's making SUCH a stink about being a
vegetarian and fighting the meat industry, she's reading a book about
blood-suckers.
From: cecchinr@dimaggio.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Stephen King - The Raft
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:20:53 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

In article <C1CDxs.8Hs@DMI.USherb.CA> bourp00@DMI.USherb.CA (PIERRE BOURBONNAIS) writes:
>In article <93023.210742PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> Patrick Barton <PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>>Actually it was CreepShow 2, in which King was a truck driver I believe...
>>(I think...I'm not sure...well, maybe not...any confirmation?)
>>
>>always, patrick
>
>Yep! right! In fact, King played in many of his film, unoticed usually. He
>played un CREEPSHOW and CREEPSHOW II, he played in PET SEMATARY, he played
>also in THE SLEEPWALKER. He must have appeared in other movies as well, I
>may not have noticed.
>
>Pierre
>
>
>

He was also the dork at the ATM machine at the beginning of MAXIMUM
OVERDRIVE.

Ron
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr)
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:36:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.224024.14889@scott.skidmore.edu> jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
>This one hot off the rumor mill.  Donald M. Grant and Stephen King
>have confirmed, due to lack of sales on the paperback editions, that
>the Dark Tower series will NOT be continued.  Apparently while the
>limited editions of the Dark Tower sold fairly well, sales of the
>paperback were abysmal.  And, as everyone knows, you don't make much
>money off of limited editions.
>  Personally I think this is a terrible mistake on King's part.  He is
>alienating those fans of his that LIKED the Dark Tower series (myself
>included).  I would certainly like to see the ending which he's had in
>mind for so long.   Secondly, when it comes to Stephen King, money
>should not be a factor.  The man is rich.  If Donald M. Grant makes
>money off the series (which he does...  At least more than most of his limited
>editions...), he should continue publishing them in that fashion until
>done.  
>  The problem with the paperback sales it seemed to me was market
>saturation.  Too many copies printed.  The different covers didn't
>help either.  That just encouraged dealers to order more and have more
>copies stuck around on the shelves.  What we need is lower paper-back
>print runs for this series.  Give the large print runs to his main
>stream books, while only printing enough to satisfy fan demand out
>there.  You only need to print 10000 or so books to clear a profit
>(and really that is being very generous.  I know of some authors whose
>print runs of 3000 or so still net a profit), and there's got to be
>more than 10,000 fans of the series out there....
>  Reactions?  Comments?  What did most people out there think of this
>series?

Gee, you mean SK isn't in it for the artistic value of his work?
Heavens.  SK is a mass-market hack.  He pulled crap like this before
with the Bachman book Thinner.  When sales were abysmil for the first
few months, he came out and laid claim to the work and sales picked up.
His work is geared for mass consumption and he is used to staggering
press-runs so when he has a flop on his hands it doesn't surprise me
that he drops it without regard for its possible merrit.

	-Phil

-- 
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 University of    /     OS/2 is irrelevant.      \          (f) 804.243.0290
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 Neurosurgery     /     Openness is futile.      \     prs9k@Virginia.BITNET
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: SK cancels Dark Tower series!
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:22:04 GMT

steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:

>prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:

>>Gee, you mean SK isn't in it for the artistic value of his work?
>>Heavens.  SK is a mass-market hack.  He pulled crap like this before
>>with the Bachman book Thinner.  When sales were abysmil for the first
>>few months, he came out and laid claim to the work and sales picked up.
>>His work is geared for mass consumption and he is used to staggering
>>press-runs so when he has a flop on his hands it doesn't surprise me
>>that he drops it without regard for its possible merrit.

>My understanding was that the Bachman pen-name was exposed *after* Thinner
>was published by a nosy reporter.  Unless you believe in Oliver Stone-ish
>conspiracy theories, I suspect King did *not* reveal his authorship to
>sell more Thinner books.  He used the pseudonym to write different stories
>from the supernatural novels he was already (in)famous for.  Why would he
>blow a well-guarded secret to make a few more million?  After all, he
>has lamented that he had wanted Misery to be the next Bachman book...

>Now, after the secret was out, I'm sure the publisher couldn't resist
>taking advantage of the situation.  I don't see King as the villain here.
>--

Well, I for one do not believe this rumor. Where did you hear it? (I
usually stay pretty much on top of SK's book announcements, etc., and
haven't heard a thing. Which may or may not mean anything).

Stephen King had *always* commented on how much he loves well-made
books, and Don Grant's books are great. Even if he quit publishing for
the paperback trade, I still think he'd continue the series in limited
edition form. I doubt the Gunslinger trade/paperbackc have sold poorly
enough to stop him anyway. The reason it was made available to the mass
market was because of fan demand!

Lastly, Donald Grant has always been kind enough to keep me informed
when the limited whas   ere available/delayed/etc. I think if the series>Dave!   was being stopped, he'd let his customers know.

My 2 cents...

(posted for the missus, Beverly H.)

--
Mitch Harris                           |  New Technology Inc.
(205)-544-2846                         |  700 Boulevard South, #401
drvax3!harris@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov    |  Huntsville, AL  35802

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: bcrooks@cwis.unomaha.edu (Barbara F. Crooks)
Subject: New Tanya Huff Book
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:24 GMT



For those of you who enjoy Tanya Huff, she has a new book out Blood List. 
This time it's a mummy and it's not half bad.

Barb
From: cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Dean)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Stephen King - The Raft
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:29:47 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <93023.210742PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> PB5329A@auvm.american.edu (Patrick Barton) writes:
>Actually it was CreepShow 2, in which King was a truck driver I believe...
>(I think...I'm not sure...well, maybe not...any confirmation?)

He was a bus driver in The Golden Years (maybe that's what you're thinking of,
or maybe not).

-Kevin
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: lkress@reed.edu (Lucien Kress)
Subject: forsale:  SK Dolores Claiborne on tape
Followup-To: <lkress@reed.edu>
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:17:28 GMT

I have Stephen King's _Dolores_Claiborne_ on tape, brand new and
unopened.  It comprises 6 tapes (over 9 hours), complete and
unabridged, read by Frances Sternhagen.  The retail price is $30.00;
I am asking $20.00 (postage included) but am quite likely to settle
for a reasonable offer.  Please respond by email only to lkress@reed.edu

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: panderse@nyx.cs.du.edu (Patricia Andersen)
Subject: Stephen King Calendar
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:28:20 GMT



Hi All

That last posting didn't work, sorry about that.  I'm relatively new
to posting to the net.

What I was trying to say was that I received a copy of a 1993 calendar
from a friend in Wisconsin.  It's called "Stephen King's Year of Fear".
Has anyone else seen this?  It is really great. 

There are pictures from various books and also of King himself.  What
I really like about the calendar is the way the dates from various works
are listed.  For example:  June 21  Bobbi Anderson "stumbles over her
destiny" (1988) (The TOMMYKNOCKERS).  You could follow parts of whole
books based on this thing.

Information for those of you who want to try and get a copy:

     Dutton
     375 Hudson Street
     New York, NY  10014

Cost on cover says $9.95 (U.S.).  I would guess that if you can still
find it at a bookstore you would get it for less, those after the first
of the year calendar discounts!!

Patty


Patty Andersen
Head/Public Information Services
Devereaux Library, SDSM&T
pandersn@silver.sdsmt.edu



Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd])
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part nine
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@ulysses.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ

In article <38304@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Dean) writes:
|> >Gee. I can't wait for Friday the 13th part thirteen. Should be extra scary 
|> >dont you think?
|> 
|> Part Nine is the final one and is said to be closer to what the first was.

Final one?  Which one was "The Final Chapter"?  Also, "closer to what the 
first was"?????  You mean, some teens go to some remote place, and
when the couples are finiished having sexual relations, they get killed?
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Remakes of Old Classics - Yet Another!
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:09:25 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

> FFC could find.  _Frankenstein_ went fast.  It will be directed by Kenneth
> Brannagh, with him playing in the starring role.  After seeing him play 
> Roman in _Dead_Again,_  I must say that this is a very, very good thing.  He
> can capture the mood PERFECTLY.  Emma Thomas will probably play his fiance, 
> which isd great, since we get to see her _die!_  No word yet on who's doing
> the invisible man.  

 Jesus Christ...I almost creamed my jeans upon hearing that. Any 
confirmations of this rumour, or should I stop clapping my hands and 
jumping up and down?


> 
> -- 
> I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
> man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.ed
> wasn't this one...	       	    / It's a Zen thing... 
> 	-Ozymandias 		    \	 you wouldn't understand...  

marlowe

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From: chumbach@carina.unm.edu (Charles S. Humbach)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Where's Arkham?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 01:18:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <1993Jan19.165300.5081@wkuvx1.bitnet> kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.145249.24589@athena.mit.edu>, centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam) writes:
>> 	I've recently started reading bits of Lovecraft
>> here and there, and I was just wondering where Arkham
>> was. I'd guess that since Arkham is a university town,
>> outside of Boston, and near a large river (Miskatonic?),
>> I'd say that Arkham is Cambridge, the Miskatonic is
>> the muddy Charles River, and Miskatonic U. is Harvard
>> University.
>
>Actually, Arkham is supposedly HPLs version of Salem, at least as far
>as the sources I've read are concerned.  For example, a convention in
>Boston (I think) ran tours to Salem, noting it to be HPLs Arkham. 
>Also, if you have it, check the map of New England in Call of Cthulhu
>4th edition.
>
>-- 
    Arkham is north of Hamilton, south of Ipswich on the Ipswich
river. There isn't a town there but the 1A runs right through there
near Bradley W. Palmer State Park. (At least that is where I've
always imagined it being (of course there is no town there. It's just
the perfect place for it.))

					
>Mark Kinney [KINNEMA@WKUVX1.(BITNET)(WKU.EDU)] | Give me Slack OR KILL ME!
>PhoneNet: (502) 745-4246   (Bowling Green, KY) | K A /\ /\ I E T I
>Quote of the week: "Nitro nine.  You have eight seconds.  Last one away's a
>	gooey mess!" -- Ace, "Dragonfire"
From: sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak)
Subject: Re: HP Lovecraft - Band of the 60's
Organization: The Horrible Sleeping Church
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:19:16 GMT

Dave Fischer (gilly!dave@quack.UB.com) wrote:
: tnielson@kirk (THORIN NIELSON) writes:

: >But one interesting thing my Dad owns is two LPs by a band called
: >
: >HP LOVECRAFT!!!

: Ah - but is it as rare as the album I have by a French jazz band
: named "Yog Sothoth"?? (Fantastic album, BTW.)

Also, has anyone heard of some weird-rock or heavy-metal song which
starts off with the band screaming out, "YOG-SOTHOTH!!!!!"?


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