From: porterw@c4west.eds.com (Wayne Porter)
Subject: Re: students/interns at delivery
Organization: EDS C4 West
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:28:45 GMT

M17257@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

>In article <C19Eqt.3sB@acsu.buffalo.edu>
>oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes:
>(orig post deleted)
> 
>I didn't think the idea of students sounded all that great, still don't really.
>But I think it also depends on if you have a natural or C section birth.
> 
>I planned a natuarl but got a c.  I wasn't even really aware of the one(luckily
>) that was there until my doctors were closing me up.  Then they started
>asking him all these questions and it was interesting to hear how he tried
>to answer their questions.  (Boy was he intimidated!-Imagine standing at the
>foot of a bed with some strange woman, in the middle of a C-Section(I'll skip
>the gross stuff) and basically getting a final exam from your professors!)
>Truly pressure!
> 
>He helped keep me from thinking about what they were doing to me, since I
>could feel something-no pain, but something.
> 
>Also kept me from completely losing it, since they had to take my baby to
>infant recovery and I hadn't gotten a chance to hold him (still strapped down
>to the operating table).  I sent my husband to follow my son (parental
>paranoia- someone stealing my baby, etc) so that left me alone again.
> 
>I was helped by the student present, but I was in such a state of ecstasy over
>childbirth that I didn't care who saw what or when.  :-) :-)
> 
>Just MHO.
> 
>Ellie Blackwell

This thread interested me because of the following.  Our third son was
born two years ago.  During the delivery we encountered two problems.
First, we had a nurse who was cross-training.  She was from a IC ward
and was cross training in the Maternity ward.  Age made me think that
she would have been experienced a patient relations, boy was I wrong.
She made the wrong comments at the wrong time.  And my wife, who really
doesn't enjoy labor ;-), was treated more like an experiment that a
patient.  Then problem number two showed up, AN INTERN (or more
appropriately - the intern from hell).  After a few hours of intense
labor, this bozo proceeded to give my wife a complete physical.  

As stated earlier in another post, unfortunatly, parents don't know
everthing and I kinda let some of this happen.  My wife couldn't say a
whole lot because she was slightly sore at the time. 8-)  But after the
adventure was over, I made a vow for the next time (which BTW is June 4,
1993 + 2weeks - she always goes over :-(  ),  I am telling the Hospital
that there will be no training on my wife.  My insurance and I don't pay
to be guine (sp?) pigs.  She is in labor, and that is not the right time
to be messing around with training, unless asked.  We were never asked,
and that in hind sight makes me very angry.  I understand that hands on
stuff is essential for medical training, but courtesy to the patient
should not be sacrificed for that.

So now that I have blown my horn for awhile, I will welcome future posts
on this subject.
--
     Wayne Porter -  porterw@c4west.eds.com or porterw@ug.eds.com
     
     "It's true, Hobbes, ignorance IS bliss! ... The secret to happiness 
      is short-term stupid self-interest. "     - Calvin - d8-)
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