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From: jambunat@cae.wisc.edu (Ramanarayanan Jambunathan)
Subject: Re: UW-Mil's Von McDade
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:57:47 CST

In article <C1E9AL.J6t@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dem21178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Montroy) writes:
>Does anyone know what happened to Von McDade, former player on the University
>of Wisconsin-Milwaukee basketball team?  He caught our attention a few 
>years ago when UW-Mil played Illinois in the Illini Classic, and I was just
>wondering.
>
Von McDade is currently in Wisconsin, and for all I know, he is pumping gas.
I am from Oshkosh, WI and over the holidays our small Rec Dept. hosts a
"pickup" basketball tourney where 16 of the best "pickup" teams in the state
play.  Von's team took second (he did score 35 points though).  How the
mighty have fallen.

Ram
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Pitt makes Winning a Habit ( re: Panthers victimize BC)
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:32:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <2242@blue.cis.pitt.edu> pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>
>Not only did the MPP win, but they dorminated. Sensational Sophomore Guard (SSG)

Dorminated?  Is that anything like urinated?

- Rob Mac K


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From: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets)
Subject: Re: Lets's all agree...Duke is #1
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:23:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.163041.5043@spcvxb.spc.edu> pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>Hey Sports fans!
>Let me begin by saying..kansas step off.
>
>Second , what the heck in Cinci. doing in the top six..
>The top six is for real sports programs...
>
>
>Best conferance in the country is the ACC..So all you big tens...step off!
Geesh, did you learn to spell in an AtlanticCoastConferAnce school?

>Duke < North Carolina < Virginia < Georgia Tech.....
I assume somehow that your symbol "<" doesn't carry with it the same meaning
as understood by every other human with a fifth grade education.

>Please...
>
>As for Duke, they are the best team in the country along with North Carolina...
Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean...

>Michigan is the best team in the big ten..
Right.  They demonstrated that at home January 12th.

>Who makes up the rankings!?
>1. Duke 
Oh, get it.  It's satire, right.

>2. North Carolina
>3. Seton Hall
Please, stop, your hurting my sides.
>4. Kentucky
>5. Indiana
>.
>.
>10 Kansas
>11 Cinci...
>
Isn't it funny that while Michigan is "the best team in the big ten", your 
ranking puts Indiana ahead of them.

RStimets



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From: kimy@wam.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim)
Subject: Re: North Carolina #1 ... :-(
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:31:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.050724.4797@samba.oit.unc.edu> ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero) writes:
>Dean Smith finds and kills R\"odl's pod person... 
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^

Hey hey hey - that's my line.

See, what really happens when Carolina is running an SDDD clinic is that
the *real* team has been abducted by aliens, and pod people just like
from "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" have taken their place.  Obviously,
having just been popped from the pods, they are very stiff and uncoordinated,
and are completely confused as to what that round orange object is and what
they're supposed to do with it.  And of course they have no idea what all
that wild gesticulating from that old guy with the big nose is supposed
to mean.

If Dean and Bill Guthridge manage a heroic rescue in time, then
Carolina makes a comeback.  Sometimes, though, Dean and the rest of the
coaching staff can't tell that the team has been replaced by pod people
and futilely try to get them to play some basketball (games against
NC State and FSU last year).  Tonight it seems that Dean managed to teach
the *pod people* to play by the end of the game.


yong-mi
and the *real* Duke team is off somewhere touring with Elvis
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From: micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen)
Subject: Charleston and UNO (was: Arizona New Orleans)
Followup-To: Arizona New Orleans 
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:40:42 GMT


Following up on gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell):

> Arizona went down to the Big Easy and managed to be behind for the first
>38 minutes of the game finally grabbing the lead in the last 2 minutes and
>holding on for a 3 point win. 

Just out of curiosity, is New Orleans in the same conference as the
College of Charleston? I heard something to that effect several days
ago. I think its the TransAmerica conference or something like that.

I would think whoever plays against their automatic bid in the
tournament better watch out.

Micah Rosen    ******      Univ. of Virginia B.S. Architecture 1990 "Go Hoos"
               *|   |_     Rice University M. Arch. 1993 "Go Owls"
               *|   | |
                |   |_|    "I've gone from being a Hoo to being a Hoot..."
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From: harveyc@seq.uncwil.edu (harveyc chet x)
Subject: Re: Kansas Upset -- More upsetting to Boiler Fans
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:59:02 GMT

The tarheels have always had a good team, this team is not only GOOD
but I believe they have a little more desire than previous teams. 
They'll sweep the ACC and crush there way on to the big-dance!

GO HEELS, GO HEELS, GO HEELS, GO HEELS, GO HEELS
From: dah@cveng121.veheng.det (Dewane A. Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: woofing about Ward
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:51:32 GMT
Reply-To: dah@cveng121.veheng.det
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Bryan I missed the UNC-FSU game what happen with Ward
and Williams.


-------------------------
Tar Heels all the way.  Although I'm a Ramblin Wrek
from Georgia Tech.
From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: NCSU to win NCAA NC this year!!
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:12:52 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:

>In <30218@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:

>>NCSU is destined to win the NCAA's mythical national championship this
>>year.  Why?  Because, it's the way it works - the State wins every 10
>>years....

>Indiana is destined to win the NCAA's mythical national championship this
>year.  Why?  Because, it's the way it works - IU wins every 6
>years....

>'87, '81, a year very close to '75...

>Actually, with four solid seniors, this year is going to be IU's best chance
>for a few years, 'til the end of the Mandeville/Wilkerson era.

>-- 
>ben
>ben

That flood of California talent is gonna sweap across the midwest
like a tidal wave!  

OOH BABY!!  Here come the Tsunami Sophomores!!

Just had to beat Dickie to the punch.
From: rpandey@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Rajeev Pandey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Sagarin: A Question
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:49:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

 Our local newspaper has the following factoid in the sports section
 today:

 "Oregon State's schedule is rated the third toughest in the nation by
 Sagarin, behind Utah State and Temple....."

 How is such a thing decided? While I am all for Oregon State looking good,
 toughest schedule would either have to fluctuate from week to week, or be
 decided by performance of opposing teams in their previous season, or
 something similar......
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From: yann@owlnet.rice.edu (Yann Erik Christensen)
Subject: Hakeem Olajuwan
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:00:47 GMT

Does anybody know how UH recruited Hakeem all the way from Africa?
How did they find him, did he play much basketball over there?  

yann
go Rockets, go Rice
prediction: Rice 86, UH 83
From: crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:37:04 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
Keywords: 104-82 !

lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:
>crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>>All freshman team:  Kidd, M. Hendrickson, D. Cross (I think he is a frosh), 
>
>Oh, I see you are way ahead of me.  As for shooting guard, you forgot 
>Cal's Jerod Haase.  He is VERY good and carried the team in a few of the
>early-season games.  What about Barry up at Oregon State?  Or is he really
>their point guard.  He does have the occasional brilliant moment, followed
>usually by an equally creative turnover.  

I forgot about Haase.  He certainly is a strong candidate for the all frosh
team.  Barry is overrated in my opinion.  He suffers from the same thing
that UW's Prentiss Perkins does.  He always tries to make a spectacular
pass, when what is called for is often more simple than that.  End result
is too often a turnover.

The other shooting guard I left off my list (which I'm surprised no one
has called me on yet) is Shon Tarver.  He is probably 2nd team, right now.

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University of Washington      *   
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From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Re: Comments on KU-Long Beach State game
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:33:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college

In article <1993Jan25.211017.46760@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
> 
> Having just set through the disastrous KU-Long Beach State game,
> I have a question --
> 
> Who claims the f**king officials that came from the west coast to officiate
> this game?
> 
> I never like it when KU is ranked #1, this always happens.And I don't believe
> that there is no team in the nation that could beat KU.
> 
> HOWEVER, when the officiating is so obviously lopsided,
> 
> IT MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM!!!!!!!!
> 
> My opinion, free, and worth every penny.
> 
> Kansas Mary

Does anyone not from KU second this?

This was by NO means the "Upset of the Decade" like some fool said. It
was at best the Upset of the Month, maybe only Upset of the Week. Maybe
the Big West will get a little national respect now. I'm not dissing on
Kansas. The 9ers were in the Top 25 one week before this game, after all.
On any given night and all that....

=====
Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: The Duke Factor (Was: The Carolina Factor)
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:49:31 GMT

Robert Burgin writes:

    [a feverish attempt to draw succor from the most recent Duke loss deleted]
>
>Carolina Factor?  I think not.
>
You better watch it, you guys, or pretty soon you'll be writing
stuff about the Good Old Days and calling for Coach K to resign.

-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> U.P. OR BUST!
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From: hammekr@eng.auburn.edu (Kenneth R. Hammett)
Subject: Re: CNN POD (plus AU woof)
Reply-To: hammekr@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:38:55 GMT

In article 1k2f4jINNhf0@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu, ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:
>I don't know how many of you saw the Play of the Day on CNN tonight.  It
>involved a high school team, which had a player run off the court under the
>basket.  The player left the gym and reappeard through another door one or two
>seconds later.  The ball was then lobbed to him in the corner, where he hit a
>jumper.  The announcers said that a technical should have been called.  Should
>that have been the case?  A player can certainly leave the court during play,
>but can he leave the room?
>-- 
>Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
>ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!


In the ever-present NCAA rulebook (which is presently at home)
it says that it is illegal for a player to leave the court for
any reason without permission from the ref.  I believe it
specifically mentions doing so to gain an advantage in position.
it also says that many state HS associations use their rules.

HOWEVER it ain't a foul if you don't get caught...

By the way, go Tigers!  (Not Geaux Tigers, the ones who got
creamed by UK last night, but the _Auburn_ Tigers)  The
Auburn Tigers lost their first three conference match-ups,
then have gotten on a short roll of three in a row, two on
the road (USC and Ark.).  And after losing three close ones
they've dominated in their three victories, while rapidly
rising to the top of an admittedly very weak SEC West.  A
win at the Definitely Not Plaid Palace would show that they
are legitimate.

And remember, 

_ANY_ 40 minutes in Arkansas is hell!  :*)

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From: alester@fire.com.de (Avie Lester)
Subject: Re: NCSU to win NCAA NC this year!!+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: woof woof woof
Reply-To: alester@fire.com.de (Avie Lester)
Organization: Denmark Basketball Association, Denmark
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:31:27 GMT


In article <30218@oasys.dt.navy.mil>,william@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)

writes:

>NCSU is destined to win the NCAA's mythical national championship
>this
>year.  Why?  Because, it's the way it works - the State wins every
>10
>years....
>
>    1973 - would have won, but the probation kept them out of it.
>	    Nevertheless, they won in 1974 to make up for it.
>
>    1983 - won the NC, beating highly favorite Houston despite having
>	    the worst win-loss record to win the NC.
>
>    1993 - It's NCSU again, despite having only 8 players and only
>	    one or two ACC victories.....

Well it's about time somebody listened to my the theories...
I believe Les Robinson can motivate those guys to go out there
and win the NC for the third consecutive decade.  Even if more than
three players foul out of a game, we can win with 4 guys on the floor.
Hell, just put Todd Fuller out there.  We can win with just him.

WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The return of alester@fire.*.*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO PACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO UMASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Long Beach ST.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Subject: Re: Ohio State vs. Indiana Prophecy
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:07:40 GMT

In <C1CD3y.2H9@andy.bgsu.edu> (EZB) writes:

>The OSU-Indiana game will be quite a battle, however, the Bucks will come
>out on top.  The Buckeyes have one edge that will propell them to victory,
>he is Greg Simpson, two-time Mr. Basketball of Ohio.  He is from Lima and
>tomorrow will be his coming out party where he will score 35+ points!  This
>may seem to be a bold prediction, but you cannot control Greg Simpson, you
>can only contain him.  Bobby Knight will be on his knees praising the new
>god of basketball!!!!!!!! 

NOT!
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Sportsmanship - Chris Street
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:19:28 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

lhandsake@ccad.uiowa.edu (Lisa Handsaker) writes:
: players in the heat of competition that is a valuable lesson to all of
: us.  After Kevin Smith intentionally pushed Bobby Hurley to the ground,
: Hurley jumped up, put his fingers to his lips and directed "Kiss off big
: boy" at Chris Street.  I wondered Tuesday night how Bobby Hurley felt
: about what were probably his last words to Chris.  He also made a comment

What is done and said in the heat of the moment during a game is and should
be forgotten asap.  In the best case it should never be said, but I think
this is contrary to the nature of competition.  Bobby Hurley has no reason
to feel any better or worse that any other player who ever played the game.
I say all this as an avid Hurley hater.  I just don't think it is right to
single him out in this situation.  How would all the Iowa fans feel if some
tragedy befell Hurley?  I personally have gotten some of the most touching
mail concerning this tragedy from the very same 'Dukies' that flamed me for
criticizing them last week.

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Subject: Minnesota Dvision III Update (1-28)
From: cmahler@gacvx1.gac.edu
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:24:31 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota
Nntp-Posting-User: cmahler

Minnesota Division III Men's Hoops

Here are the Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference standings as of
January 28, 1993.  

Thanks for the positive feedback!  I'll try to post standings after every game
night until the season ends.  As regular fans out there will remember, the top
four regular season teams play a single elimination tournament for the
automatic bid into the
NCAA tournament.  I've added meaningful game results and some comments when I
could.  If anyone wants more detailed info about the league or their team,
email me and I'll do what I can. 

Just so my biases are on the table, I'm a St. John's grad ('85) who now coaches
at Gustavus. 


Team        Record  Last Game            Next Game

Carleton    10  2   beat St. Mary's      Gustavus
St. John's  10  2   beat Hamline         at Concordia
St. Thomas  9   3   beat Bethel          St. Mary's
Augsburg    8   4   beat Macalester      at Hamline
St. Olaf    7   4   idle                 Macalester
Gustavus    7   4   beat Concordia  
Bethel      4 [C  8                      idle
Hamline     4   8 ["
Concordia   3   9
St. Mary's  2   10
Macalester  1   11

Wednesday night saw all the favorites win.  Saturday action proffers the same
with haves playing have-nots in all but the Gustavus - Carleton game.  


Charlie Mahler
Distance Running Coach
Gustavus Adolphus College
St. Peter, Minnesota  USA

cmahler@gacvx1.gac.

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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: IU question
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:41:06 GMT

In <1993Jan27.121026.17058@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> hwtx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>Noticing all the Bloomington people, and IU fans on this group, I figured I had
>a good chance of getting an answer.

>My friends at IU and I were wondering what the deal was with Pat Knight. 
>Is it true that he been kicked off the team?  I thought I had heard something
>about that at the end of last year.  

>If he had been, why is he back?

>If I'm completely off my rocker, don't hesitate to inform me.  Thanks for your
>time.

Well, I saw the Ohio State game (row 2 seat 2 south end  yea baby!!!) and he
scored 2 points (I think) in that game.  Of course, the crowd went nuts.
I think he actually scored 11 points vs. Niagara earlier this year, but I'm
not sure.

To answer the question of why is he back.  Well, he's Bob Knight's son, that's
why.

Anyways, we could use all the people we can get, even if it is Pat Knight.
We lost :
Malcolm Sims (why did he quit?)
Pat Graham (another foot injury)
Todd Lindeman (red shirt)

We have (essentially) 8 players (not including P*t K****t)
Greg Graham
Alan Henderson
Damon Bailey  (what a washout.  I think he's another very overrated player)
Calbert Cheaney  (did anyone catch Billy Packer calling him Calvin Cheaney?)
                 (I was at the game, but this is what someone told me)
Matt Nover (he is god)
Todd Leary (he is the other god)
Chris Reynolds
Brian Evans
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: LSU and the Also-rans (was Re: Vandy-Arkansas (+ SEC Race))
Keywords: HOMER
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:48:56 GMT
Organization: .

(Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
>
>As to the SEC races, Kentucky has the big edge in the East (Vandy's 4-1
>notwithstanding), while Arkansas and oh I hate to say it, LSU  the favorites
>in the West.  I don't know how Dale Brown does it, but he's already picked up
>two big road wins at Auburn and Miss. St., and he has Vandy in the Death Dome.

The same way he's always done it, fundamentals.  Let's face it, he's the
Bill Walsh of college basketball.  

He makes ol' Mike Kryzsewiskimeister%atchoo#excuseme look like Moe Howard.

email me if you need further assistance.....

--J.J.
(geaux tiguzz)
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