HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cer@cer.b11.ingr.com (Catherine Bauman)
Subject: Re: File Interchange
Organization: Mail news gateway
Distribution: world
Keywords: 
Reply-To: alt-sys-intergraph@ingr.com
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 18:06:51 CDT

}
}I'm posting this for a designer with an Intergraph setup.  He is not
}connected to the net, and probably wouldn't know what to do with it
}anyway.  I've never been near his hardware, but I gather it's stuffed with
}Sparcs.  He wants to know if there is software available to convert
}between other CAD file formats and Intergraph?  Please email your
}suggestions and I will summarise to him and this newsgroup.
}
}
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}--- Neil Young on computing: "Farmer John I'm in love with your data" ---
}
}Jan Wysocki                 |  Computer Science Department,
}|  Queen Mary and Westfield College,
}email:    jan@dcs.qmw.ac.uk          |  Mile End Road,
}'phone:   +44 (0)71 975 5230          |  London.  E1 4NS
}

There are a number of translators available from Intergraph to convert
various CAD formats to one that can be displayed on an Intergraph workstation
and an entire organization that handles these products.  The person to con-
tact for additional information is Barry Nance; his number is (205)730-3573.
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph,comp.sys.intergraph
From: barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk (Barrie Spence)
Subject: Re: GNU C compiler on Intergraph
Organization: DataCAD Ltd, Hamilton, Scotland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:56:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.012615.8988@access.digex.com> chander@access.digex.com (Chander Raja) writes:
>Has anybody ported the GNU C compiler to Intergraph workstations and if so,
>is it available for anonymous ftp? Please reply by e-mail as I don't read these
>groups regularly.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-
>Chander
>chander@access.digex.com


I've posted a similar message to gnu.gcc.help - still no replies. I
believe that the beast must exit because I recall seeing a bug report
in gnu.gcc.bug (from clark@clark.b11.ingr.com) and because it is
supported by iar in recent releases.


barrie
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barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk          Hamilton, Lanarkshire ML3 0AL, Scotland
	Telephone +44 (0) 698 425599 / Fax +44 (0) 698 419173
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:20:09 EDT
From: Fred Houlihan: 814-238-4123, Fax:238-1604 <FTH@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
Subject:    Intergraph on RS/6000?

Have the Intergraph software applications been ported yet to AIX on
the IBM RS/6000?

Fred
Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
From: amc@ajs18.salva.it (A M Chavan)
Subject: Re: API's and PORTING to other platforms
Organization: Mail news gateway
Distribution: world
Keywords: 
Reply-To: alt-sys-intergraph@ingr.com
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 09:44:45 CDT

Chris Kerr writes:
> I am looking for information on interfaces to EMS, specifically being able
> to bypass the GUI to create, modify, and query geometry, topology, and all
> other EMS data structures.  I am especially interested in Complex surfaces and
> funky kinds of solids.

We at Salvagnini are developing an expert system that is interfaced
with I/EMS and I/NC. The interface we developed does much of what you
need, although it deals mostly with fairly simple solids and surfaces.

It took a lot of work on our side; we also needed undisclosed
information and software we got under a special agreement with
Intergraph: I don't think you can do it otherwise. Unfortunately,
I/EMS does not have a clean API like MicroStation or other CAD
systems, and its PPL programming language is not the most productive
environment you can think of (for one thing, there's no symbolic
debugging).

On the other hand, I know Wisdom Systems had to face similar problems
when porting their Concept Modeler expert system shell to the InterPro
paltform.

Hope this helps.

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From: ckerr@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Chris Kerr)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
Subject: API's and PORTING to other platforms
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: ckerr@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Chris Kerr)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Hello  -

I am looking for information on interfaces to EMS, specifically being able
to bypass the GUI to create, modify, and query geometry, topology, and all
other EMS data structures.  I am especially interested in Complex surfaces and
funky kinds of solids.

On another note, does anybody want to speculate what other hardware and OS's
Intergraph will port EMS, VDS, and other layered products to in the next year,
and beyond?

Thanks in advance,

Chris
Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
From: bob@sparkie.nrri.umn.edu (Robert I. Benett)
Subject: PC/FTP and /etc/rmt
Organization: MN/DOT
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:58:26 GMT


Hello,

I'm using FTP Software's PC-FTP with InterPro and Interserve machines and I'd
like to use the tar util that comes with to write files from a PC to the 
tapedrive on an Intergraph machine.  I setup the config file and can use 
rmt to do status, offl, and other commands on the tapedrive, but when I try
to write files to the drive with tar I get:

	Open error sh: /etc/rmt: not found: E0
	Error opening bobb@pr_2c1:/dev/rmt/ms6 for write.

Now, the permissions on the tapedrive are ok, but there is no such file
/etc/rmt.  I looked on a Sun and saw that /etc/rmt is a remote tape manager.

Any ideas how I can make this thing work?????


Bob Bennett

bob@sparkie.nrri.umn.edu
(218) 723-4914




Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
From: barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk (Barrie Spence)
Subject: Re: PC/FTP and /etc/rmt
Organization: DataCAD Ltd, Hamilton, Scotland
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.165826.20810@news2.cis.umn.edu> bob@sparkie.nrri.umn.edu (Robert I. Benett) writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm using FTP Software's PC-FTP with InterPro and Interserve machines and I'd
>like to use the tar util that comes with to write files from a PC to the
>tapedrive on an Intergraph machine.  I setup the config file and can use
>rmt to do status, offl, and other commands on the tapedrive, but when I try
>to write files to the drive with tar I get:
>
>	Open error sh: /etc/rmt: not found: E0
>	Error opening bobb@pr_2c1:/dev/rmt/ms6 for write.
>
>Now, the permissions on the tapedrive are ok, but there is no such file
>/etc/rmt.  I looked on a Sun and saw that /etc/rmt is a remote tape manager.
>
>Any ideas how I can make this thing work?????
>
>
>Bob Bennett
>
>bob@sparkie.nrri.umn.edu
>(218) 723-4914

/etc/rmt came from BSD. If you have the C compiler etc, you could grab
the sources by ftp. I know that the sources are supplied with FSF/GNU tar
and cpio. Alternatively, look for an archive site for 386BSD (the PD
offering).

Surprisingly, Sun's PC-NFS Lifeline product doesn't rely on /etc/rmt
for its tar backups - it simply pipes the output of the (dos) tar to a
remote command executing a dd to the tape drive (with matching tar and
dd output block sizes).

Barrie



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barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk          Hamilton, Lanarkshire ML3 0AL, Scotland
	Telephone +44 (0) 698 425599 / Fax +44 (0) 698 419173
Newsgroups: alt.sys.intergraph
From: kim@snowbird.b30.ingr.com (Kim Corbridge)
Subject: Hardware Platforms
Organization: Intergraph Corporation 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:21:32 GMT

Recently, an individual posted here inquiring whether anyone would speculate 
which new hardware platforms that Intergraph would move its Engineering Modeling
System (EMS) to.  I would like to respond, but will refrain from speculation. 

Intergraph Mechanical is committed to support the Industry Standard Hardware
Platforms.  

Intergraph C400: We are obviously going to continue support of this platform. 
For obious reasons, this remains our development platform and will continue as
such.   This workstation will continue to be a viable platform and the best
overall value in terms of total support, ease of use, etc.

SUN SPARC Family.  We will continue to support the Sun SPARC product family. 
This will include supprt for the SPARC II family and will expand to include the
SPARC 10 before the time it will be available in quantities from Sun.  We will
continue to keep pace with new Operating Systems and Hardware platforms from Sun.

Silicon Graphics.  We have an SGI port underway at the current time and project
delivery of EMS on both R3000 and R4000 based Silicon Graphics Workstations
during the first half of 1993.

IBM. We have comitted to a port to the IBM RS6000 workstation family.  However,
at the current time, we are not prepared to estimate a delivery date.

Any discussions of platforms outside of those discussed above is, as the original
poster requested, speculation. Also, I should point out that these ports refer to
the Mechanical Product Family (EMS) only and do not indicate any diretion for
other application areas.


					Kim Corbridge
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: "Stefan Berg" <sgberg@peach.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: problem with my local feed site (BMS bug maybe?)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:21:23 -0500

I have a real problem here. My local feed site just cut me off on
Friday, because I supposedly cause them some kind of trouble on
their side. This is really urgent, because my mail keeps accumulating
on their side (it`s 1.5MB right now) until I fix my problem (then
they`ll restore my account).

They told me, that I need to fully qualify my domain name on all
outgoing mail. e.g. bms_err@charon should be
bms_err@charon.bloomington.in.us (bms_err seems to be causing the
trouble).

I have never had any trouble with them before, so I really don`t know,
what I`m doing wrong. My Reply-To and From fields both have my full
domain address in them.

Any suggestions are *very* welcome.

Thanks,

Stefan

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From: wusel@straylight.uucp (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Video Toaster on Amiga
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1992 20:27:33 MESZ
Organization: Eastern Seaboard Fission Authority, Sietland, BRD
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Remote-Software: Arn 1.00 pre (Bielefeld release) via duart.device
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 pre

In article <1992Sep17.211539.1005@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

%       I am writing to see if I can find any information about the Commadore
% Amiga 2500. We have a Video Toaster hooked up to it and I am in desparate need
% of assistance. Thanks you for your time.

     Hmm, the  Amiga  2500  is just an Amiga 2000 C including an A2620
or A2630 and the A2091 - at least it was as I purchased mine =:->
			kai

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_ // Kai 'wusel' Siering, Villa Straylight, Hamburg, BRD <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
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From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: RNews & UUXQT Error messages
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (9/26/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:12:26 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <johnv.02y4@acix.DIALix.oz.au> johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven) writes:
> This morning I got these error messages.  Could somebody please explain
> what they mean or where I can find this information out.

> (09/30-07:21:58) RNews,-,- unbatch: read failed 0
> (09/30-07:22:07) RNews,-,- dofile() error 20
> (09/30-07:22:07) RNews,-,- dofile() error 20
[article list deleted]
> (09/30-07:22:08) RNews,-,- TOTAL                      43 ARTS   51620/83056   BYTES/UNCOMPRESSED
> (09/30-07:22:08) UUXQT,-,- Execute Error: rc=20 cmd=RNews <D.ddiiaalli9d15418
> (09/30-07:22:08) UUXQT,-,- Renamed UUSPOOL:X.acixd7b70 to UUSPOOL:E.acixd7b70
> (09/30-07:22:08) UUXQT,-,- Processed 1 files

The lines marked RNews come from Rnews.c, and the lines marked UUXQT come from
UUXQT.c.        :)

RNews expected that a file would be longer than it was. It went to read a
buffer, and instead got EOF. The file is the temporary file generated after
a compressed batch has been decompressed, or the direct input file in the
case of uncompressed news batches. RNews gets headers that are of the
form "
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Cnews?  Help!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (9/26/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:43:37 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <1992Sep28.180932.4471@ckctpa.UUCP> crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards) writes:
> bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin) writes:
>
>     2.        Change GRn to call RELAYNEWS.  Workable for the same reason as
>       above, but I don't use GRn so I don't know how easy this would
>       be to do.

        setenv postnews relaynews

Presuming relaynews is in the path. Specify the full-name, if not. You can
also modify AmigaUUCP to do this for you. Change the line in UULib:Config

        PostNews    Relaynews

The same path commment applies (unless, of course PostNews actually needs to
stay around.....).
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
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From: wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 17:42:55 +0100
Organization: Villa Straylight, Hamburg, FRG
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Reply-To: "Kai 'wusel' Siering" <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>
Subject: Re: bms_err not used in BMS?
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Copyright: Nachdruck, auch auszugsweise, ohne schriftliche Einwilligung des Autors bei Strafe verboten.

In article <9209280518.AA0298m@castrov.cuc.ab.ca>, wuth@castrov.cuc.ab.ca (Brett Wuth) writes:
% >What is supposed to happen to the user bms_err? The file uumail:bms_err has
% >been accumulating to 75KBytes during the last few months on my harddisk. I
% >just ran dmail -f uumail:bms_err on it and found that there were letters
% >from back to July in it (with letters I mean error message containing BMS
% >stuff). Is BMS actually using these messages? Otherwise it would be better
% >to make an alias of bms_err to my username, so that *I* (and not BMS) get
% >the messages.

% Matt Dillon commented that he originally planned to have BMS process
% these bounces.  But for now, it just accumulates.  You should just
% read and delete these messages when they appear.

     I don't  know  about the format of BMS' messages (spare time's limited
=:-<),  but  is  there  an  easy way to convert these bounces into commands
like  `BMS  d=<remote> dequeue id <id>' or the like? If there's anybody out
there  fiddeling  around  with  BMS, I'd appreciate a short hack that reads
the  mailfolder  (for  that  I  already wrote code ...) and creates such an
output  -  which  then  could  be eiter mailed to `bms-manager'or directly
piped  into execute ... Any volunteers (I would do it, but no time to start
up another thing =:->)?

Ciao,
			kai

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 \X/: <wusel@hactar.hanse.de> Exile: <wusel@lime.in-berlin.de> iso-8859-1: 

"Die allwissende Muellhalde...   Bonzo"
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From: alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn V)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: E.xxxxx files.
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:21:37 GMT
Organization: Amiga 2000 (Home System)

I realize that AmigaUUCP converts files in the UUSPOOL: directory to
an E.xxxxx file when an error is encountered, but I have been seeing
these quite regularly. Does anyone know what my problem might be??

Here is a copy of the E.xxxxx file:

-----
U news digi
# return status on failure
Z
# use sh to execute
e
# return address for status or input return
R news
# job id for status reporting
J ajahnvd344b
F D.digi42b6d06
I D.digi42b6d06
C rnews 
------

Can anyone help?  Thanks in advance.

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From: Lawrence_Chen@lhaven.UUmh.Ab.Ca (Lawrence Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Internet Conversion
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:11:41 MDT
Organization: Lunatic Haven BBS

Would it be possible to get AmigaUUCP to continue working, if I were to get
a genuine INTERNET connection for my Amiga?  And, would I actually be able
to hook my Amiga into this INTERNET connection?

Its been suggested that I might be able to get a connection via dialup
SLIP, which I would have to act as server for various other systems
scattered around the city.

So first I need to know of a commercial SLIP for the Amiga.  And, whether
the needed utilities exist or can be made to exist.....


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

 "Just a crazy Engineer with an Amiga and an HP48sx" - The Dreamer
 EMAIL: Lawrence_Chen@lhaven.uumh.ab.ca or "Lawrence Chen" @ 1:134/3002
 PHONE: +1 403 526 6019                       FAX: +1 403 529 5102
 Lunatic Haven BBS (1:134/3002): +1 403 526 6957 (14,400 HST/v.32bis)
 Lunatic Haven BBS (UUCP):       +1 403 526 5035 (Telebit Worldblazer)
 PRAXIS Society K12 BBS:         +1 403 529 1610 (2400 bps)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: How to find AmigaUUCP-Users (was: Re: TrimNews for 2.04 and beyond...)
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:48:17 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: It's Home, really...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Kai 'wusel' Siering (wusel@hactar.hanse.de) wrote:
  [ lots of stuff about install sending a mail out deleted...]
> Any comments?
>                       kai

    1. People who pay for their outgoing mail may get a bit annoyed.
    2. I personally don't trust programs automatically sending things out.
       I would probally just delete the batch, unless I had an unusual
       amount of free time to see that it was all valid.

--
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                 Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer,
               she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel
From: wayne@brunz.Santa-Cruz.CA.US (Wayne Feick)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Bug in sendmail
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:49:45 GMT
Organization: Canadian Consolate, Santa Cruz, CA, USA

Matt, are you still automatically logging bug reports?


##B brunz_921005

Sendmail incorrectly assumes that if you have an adjacent site, X, any mail
sent to any machine X.Y.Z should go to that machine.

As an example, if I connect to a machine, timami.santa-cruz.ca.us, there
will be an entry for timami in my L.sys file.  If I send mail to
timami.on.ca, sendmail will route it to the adjacent machine named timami
rather than my default mail forwarding site.

Even if I place an entry in my Domain file explicitly routing timami.on.ca
to my mail forwarding site, sendmail will ignore that entry and route the
mail to my adjacent site, timami.santa-cruz.ca.us.

#

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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Remote Login using UUCP 1.16d
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:59:46 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <1acsb0INN2hj@cs.tut.fi> by po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala):

> Dnews/dmail also has a problem with input streams, they are not passed
> to the editor or something else goes wrong, only programs that open

    This one can be fixed by changing them to use System() under KS2.0
    instead of continuing to use Execute().

> -Pasi
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From: dac@dacami.cmhnet.org (David Culberson)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: BMS Site update!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.16b 5/26/92 by Mikes Schwartz & Smith
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:30:41 EST
Organization: Culberson Plaza.  (One Marconi Place, Inc.)

  This is a message to update the previous address of my BMS site.  It was
previously a UUCP site (dacami.uucp,) but now is a registered domain;
dacami.cmhnet.org.  If needed you may update your registration, but
everything should work ok still.  You do not need to bang path to me any
more, the internet can figure out where I am now, as long as you include the
cmhnet.org on the end of my site name.

         Thanks!  David

--
(- dac@dacami.cmhnet.org  -  cis.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!jcnpc!dacami!dac -)
(- David Culberson - Site available for BMS transactions!              -)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: Re: GRn and folders?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:45:47 GMT

In <mbs.132d@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.051014.23641@ccu.umanitoba.ca> kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
>> I would like to use a news reader, like GRn, to read saved news articles.  I
>> like to concatenate a whole bunch of saved articles into one file, and then on
>> my unix box use 'nn filename' to go through the bunch when I want to recall
>> something.  What do I have to set up on my amiga to use something like GRn in
>> this minimal fashion?
>>       Detailed help greatly appreciated, thanks,

I guess I was somewhat unclear.  Sorry.  I use nn under unix to save the files.
I then transfer the files to my amiga at home.  I am looking for help on 
getting GRn or something simular to use these files, instead of an actual
uucp news directory.

Thanks,
	Ken
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Cnews?  Help!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (9/26/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:37:19 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <y2uKr*xS2@crpi.UUCP> joel@crpi.UUCP (Joel C. Justen) writes:
> I also found this really annoying, but finally realized that if a newsreader
> wasn't going to support a far superior format (ie CNews with active and
> news article database) I wasn't going to use it.  I since use ARN as my
> newsreader of choice..

I'm glad that there is a newsreader out there that meets your needs.

However, I've had exactly *two* people out there make comments to me about
how GRn works with C-News. And you know what? They have beta versions of
GRn 1.16f that work just fine with C-News.

I don't run C-News here. I never intend to. The overhead isn't worth it.
Calling it a superior format makes the assumption that everyone else's
needs are the same as yours. For a low-overhead system, AmigaUUCP is far
superior; and requires much less administration.
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
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