From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:40:17 GMT

thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie) writes:

>In article <1992Nov11.122638.25124@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>   Germans are dirty, not Dutchmen. We don't need it...
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Sidney & Mischa
>>
>	Ahem, it's funny how sweeping generalisations start being written
>by otherwise reasonable people when you attack something they support. Actually
>it was more of an observation than an attack. Besides I thought it was the
>English who have problems with the concept of soap :-)

>	Oh and before I forget Frank Rijkaards llama act in the WC is an
>obvious indication that the Dutch team is full to the brim with pleasant
>fellows who are victimised by those nasty Germans and Brits. I really feel
>for you guys. Perhaps FIFA should introduce a rule where you must ask for
>the ball from the other team, rather than take it away. Much less dirty don't
>you think?
>			Thomas the Tank Engine
>			aka Algor

All right, Frank Rijkaards act was rather dirty! Also we have lots of dirty
players here in Holland, but with dirty we mean 'rough'. Examples:
Robin Schmidt, Hans Kraay jr., Peter Barendse, Cor Lems,
Henk 'Karatekid' Fraser, etc...

With Germans being 'dirty' we mean something else. German players are what 
we call them in Dutch 'matenaaiers', something like 'mate-fuckers' or
'pal-fuckers'. We hope you'll understand what we mean! Explanations: 
- German players always cry for penalty-kicks.
- German players always try to get their opponent yellow or red cards.
  (A good example you all remember: semi-final WC'90 -> England - Germany,
   the incident with Lothar 'fucking' Matthaeus, who - on purpose - got
   Paul Gascoigne a yellow card, so that if England would win, he would
   not have played the final)
- German players are very good actors: always with a foul, they go down to
  the ground as if they've been struck with a bullet or something! When
  they're on the ground, they roll on a few times to make it worse, and
  to get the opponent a yellow card. 
 
These are all reasons why Dutchmen don't like German soccer. And besides,
they don't have any technique (exception: Rudi Voeller, very good player)
and are very sure they're the best. We hope you all understand now what
we mean by calling German players 'dirty'. They just suck!

I (Mischa, the PSV-fan) will support Ajax (dedicated enemy for PSV-fans)
fiercely when they'll play 1.FC Kaiserslautern.                       
To end this posting, here's the top 5 of dirty German teams:

1. The national team
2. Kaiserslautern
3. FC Koln 
4. VfB Stuttgart
5. Werder Bremen

Gladly, there are a few exceptions: Borrusia Dortmund (except Frank Mill)
and Eintracht Frankfurt. 

The top 5 of dirty German players:

1. Lothar Matthaeus
2. Falco Goetz (former FC Koln, now plays in Turkey)
3. Rudi Voeller
4. Jurgen Klinsmann
5. Guido Buchwald, Uwe Bein, Pierre Littbarski

Last remark: they're also terribly lucky!

Yeeeeech! German players SUCK!

Greetings,

Sidney & Mischa



-- 
-  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
-     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
-  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
-     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -