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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Who the HELL is doing Pens color?
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:06:21 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1i5jq9INNa2d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>I beleive he's a Francophone because of his accent, and this is
>CERTAINLY NOT Paul Steigerwald.  
>
>1) WHat happened to PAul ?

I believe Paul was at the Buffalo-Pgh game, as the guy there didn't
have a francophone accent.  I sat about four rows behind the hanging
bucket the Pens chose to broadcast from, and across the aisle.  It
also enabled me to learn that Mike Lange seems to be a clueless
individual who ambled to the bucket three minutes before game time,
almost dropping his bulky leather case over onto the girl in the
bucket helping with the broadcast off-camera.  He wore that cheesy
plastic smile through the game whenever the camera was on, and had
some vicious scowls for Penguins college freshman aged fans who
eagerly showed up at the bucket to drop off a sign (something about
Lange and scotch, if I recall). I'd also love to know why the girl
helping out off-camera decided the floor was a great place to throw
all her scrap paper (inches worth), and wonder why she felt it
necessary to insist that everyone waiting to say hello to Lange and
crew get out "immediately", in more polite terms than she used.  
A last item I'm curious about.  Lange read typed scripts in those
plastic paper protector sheets at the end of the game.  They weren't 
just facts and figures or the three stars, I mean entire paragraphs
scripted out.  Does he say any of his own info, or is he a glorified 
Ken doll other than the fried chicken and rented mule sayings?  I
don't get up to the pressbox, not having press credentials at hockey 
games, and it's the only time I've attended a game when the hanging 
gondola was used at the Aud, so I'm curious.  Oh, and I had the added 
benefit of having a view of the console screen so as to see all those
penguin product spots they use to hawk merchandise.  I thought Sabre
telecasts were bad (ok, they are, but a little less cheesy since
Mike Robitaille left) . . .  Am I the only one who thinks this?  
Just wondering.




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Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: KINGS - HABS trade rumour
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:46:52 GMT
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In article <1993Jan8.155001.854@bmerh85.bnr.ca> milne@bmerh136.bnr.ca
(Bruce Milne) writes:
>Hot rumour has it that the KINGS have traded Robitaille and change to the HABS
>for ... Patrick Roy...   can anyone substantiate this..
>

If only it were true, it would be an amazing trade for the Kings who
desperately need some help in the net.  However, the last I heard
in a statement from Melrose was that there were no plans to trade
Robitaille as far as he was concerned (but what the Kings' coach
has to say has never seemed to influence much what upper management
actually decides to do -- so I guess we wait and see . . .)

Also, why would Montreal be willing to trade Roy for Robitaille?  
Actually, why would they be willing to trade Roy at all?  It seems
like this is merely a rumor -- or else Habs management need to
have their heads examined :-)


Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!

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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: LIGHTNING NEWS: TB vs. Edmonton 1/2
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:44:34 GMT

TB  - 0 1 0 - 1
EDM - 0 2 0 - 2

1 - none

2 - TB  Bradley 29  (Tucker)             3:04
    EDM Rice 1      (Joseph)             9:20
    EDM Mellanby 12 (Nicholls, Simpson) 16:06 (pp)

3 - none

Shots on goal: TB  14- 6-10--30
               EDM 10-14- 8--32
Power plays:   TB  0 of 6
               EDM 1 of 6
Goalies:       TB  Bergeron 4-3-0, 32 shots, 30 saves
               EDM Ranford 9-18-4, 30 shots, 29 saves
Attendance:    14,361

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* Lightning continue tumbling on road

Scott Mellanby's power-play goal late in the second period gave the Edmonton
Oilers a 2-1 victory over the Tampa Bay Lightning on Saturday night.

Mellanby took a pass from Bernie Nicholls in front of goaltender J.C. Bergeron
and scored his 12th goal at 16:06. The goal came with Tampa's Mark Bureau
sitting out a double minor for high-sticking.

Tampa almost tied the score with 1:23 left when defenseman Joe Reekie's weak
point shot hit the post. Moments later, goaltender Bill Ranford preserved the
victory with a stop on Bureau.

Rookie Steven Rice, in his second game since being recalled from the minors,
also scored as the Oilers extended Tampa's slide to four games. The Lightning
are 0-4-0 so far on their nine-game road trip.

Brian Bradley, with his team-leading 29th goal of the season, gave the
Lightning a 1-0 lead early in the second period after a scoreless first that
was so quiet the coaches could be heard yelling instructions.

With Oilers defenseman Chris Joseph caught up ice, Bradley beat Ranford at
3:04.

Bergeron swept across his crease to stop Nicholls a few minutes later, but Rice
converted Joseph's neat centering pass at 9:20 to tie the score.

Ranford preserved the lead with about 9 minutes left when he kicked out his
pad to stop defenseman Rob Ramage's point shot, which had changed directions.

Tom
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From: CCDB <CCDB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Puck in Wrong Net
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:32:44 GMT

    In the 1960's Detroit & toronto were playing a playoff
Game and Howie Young playing for wings at time scored on
his own net. Wings lost the game.

   The BIG D










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From: etxmarr@eos.ericsson.se (Marek Repinski)
Subject: Re: Allsvenskan, Sweden: Results January 6
Reply-To: Marek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:42:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.081419.21159@ericsson.se>, etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:
|> 
|>  SWEDEN; Allsvenskan; First round, 6th of January 1993
|>  =====================================================
|> 
|>  Box score to the Bjoerkloeven game and comments to all games supplied
|>  by Kent Hedlundh (dvlkhh@cs.umu.se).
|> 
|> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
|> 
|>  Huddinge - Boden 6-2 (3-1,2-1,1-0)
|> 
|>     This is a bit surprising, since Boden are really good. Though, I think the
|>  Bodensers have had trouble with Huddinge before.

I would have been very suprised if it was the other way around!
Huddinge is a very good and strong team. IMHO the strongest in Allsenskan.
They have good players (Niklas Falk, Lars Goran Viklander.....), good coach
(Ingvar "Putte" Carlsson), good management and good ekonomics (that a good
thing in these times of recession). They definitly got elitserie standard.
They been so close for so many years, it's their turn now.
BTW Boden seems to need some evningclasses i mathematics. Two times in the 
second period they got team penalties for being too many on the ice. Once
in play 4-5 !!
 
|> 
|>  Vita Hasten - AIK 3-4 (1-2,2-0,0-2)
|> 
|>     I am actually surprised that AIK managed to win in Norrkoeping!
|>  Though, the Horses got tired and couldn't stand the distance.

Piiiuuuuh  :) :)

|> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
|> 
|>  Bjoerkloeven       Mora                6-3 (3-2,1-0,2-1) :-) :-) 

This was for me a bit surprising, that loven won so easy. 
Mora is a good team too. Guess I'll have to revalue my thoughts of 
Bjorkloven.

|> 
|> --
|>  ((\\  //| Staffan Axelsson            
|>   \\  //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se    
|> \\_))//-|| contact for Swedish hockey  

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From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Subject: Re: Alex = scoring machine
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:13:00 GMT

[Many people talking about who scored 50 goals in fifty games...]
> 
>How soon people forget.....Maurice "the Rocket" Richard set the record with
>50 in 50.  The season he did it was only 50 games long as far as I recall.
> 
Didn't Mike Bossy do it, also???

Greg

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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Gretzky to return *this Wednesday*!!?!?!!?
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:34:07 GMT
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak Chhabra)
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS

In article <1993Jan5.015637.23260@bcrka451.bnr.ca> simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
>
>Well, CNN Headline News reported about 5 minutes ago that Wayner will, in
>fact, return to the Kings line-up this Wednesday for a home game against
>the Lightning-- not January 16th as widely reported.
>
>Now, do you suppose they got the date screwed up between the 6th & 16th, or
>is he indeed coming back in two days?  More importantly, since I don't have
>tickets yet for when the Sens host the Kings on the 12th, should I go out of
>my way to get them (i.e. any news on whether he's going on the road trip?)

I heard the following last night on the all-sports station in Toronto (am 1430)
from (I think) an L.A. contact:

1) Gretzky will play against the Lightning on the 6th.  According to Barry 
Melrose and maybe the Kings management, the first few games he plays in will
be more or less trials to see what kind of shape he's in.  Also according to
Melrose, if Gretzky does not play well, he will only see limited ice time. 
IMHO, he'll get a regular shift or take more time off, but no way will he 
see spot duty like a 4th line centre.

2) Kurri and Robitaille will continue to play together, and Sandstrom will 
likely take the other wing when he returns.  I forget the wingers Gretzky will
play with (there is a likely combination that has been set), but the 
Kurri-Robitaille combination will not be separated.  BTW this again is 
according to Melrose.

3) Gretzky will make the road trip but apparently will be rested in the 
Chicago game.  So maybe you should pick up some Sens tickets.

4) Immediately upon his return, Wayne will wear the captain's 'C'.  Coffey
and Robitaille will become assistant captains.

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
From: montana@pinetree.org (David Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NEED EVAL. for WayneGretz3!!!!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 23:16:28 EST
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

comptec92062@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:

> Could anyone give me an evaluation of Wayne Gretzky 3 hockey for PC's. And do

Well WGH III is great, but I have to be honest, it could be better,  
there are a lot of bugs involved.  I know I have my share of problems.  
the recommended hardare is a 386 w/40 mhz for the 3/4 view and a lot of 
rams for the other options,  sound blaster is a must, and I think it 
takes only expanded mem. 
 
later


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From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Subject: Lemieux..illness
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:27:18 GMT

Just announced on the CANUCK hockey radio station that Mario Lemieux has
HODGKIN DISEASE a type of cancer. Hope others can get more details.

John
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From: bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: * Wakaluk scores.. (was: Re: puck in wrong net)
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:06:01 GMT
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <002519m.118.726773925@axe.acadiau.ca>, 002519m@axe.acadiau.ca (KRISTIAN AARON MACCALL) writes:

> The same year Hextall scored his first goal, I do believe Darcy Wakaluk 
> scored one in almost the exact same fashion, while playing for Rochester

He sure did.. infact, I believe that Wakaluk scored his goal just days after
Hextall scored his..  

It was ironic, because, being in Buffalo, we saw the goal on the highlight
films (Rochester is Buffalo's AHL team), and Wakaluk hinted at how he needed a
new car... (If you remember, Hextall was given a new car for scoring that
goal..)




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Jason Bittle (bittle@canisius.edu) 
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From: shoe@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Shoesmith)
Subject: Re: puck in wrong net?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:30:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.215319.27236@walter.bellcore.com> bc@leis.bellcore.com writes:
>I rememeber the Islanders were playing to Colorado Rockies and a delayed
>penalty was called on the Isles, a Rockie sent a pass to the middle of the 
>Isles blue line.  However no Rockie was there and the puck went into the
>Rockies open net (Since there was that delayed penalty called and the
>goaltender was pulled for the extra skater).
>
>Trivia Question??
>
>Anyone know who the guy was who was credited with the Islander goal??
>
That would have been Billy Smith, the first goalie to be credited with an
NHL goal.

I remember Hextall scoring when he played for the Flyers.  Does anyone
remember any other goalie goal getters?

Mark S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: Tocchet-Jagr fisticuffs
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:37:58 GMT

lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) wrote:
>Later that day, Scotty Bowman called Jagr into his office.  You could here
>Bowman yelling all through the Arena.   And when Jagr stepped out of Bowman's
>office he went over and apologized to Tippett.

I'm curious what Bowman saw or was the entire story relayed to him. While I
hate to see any teammates fight, I think Jagr had this coming. Someone said
that was quoted in the paper that winning Cups was easy - 2 in his 2 years
(or something like that). I think he needs a little humilty (perhaps not
protecting him and letting him carry the load on one of the expansion teams).
Did Mario have anything to say to him or does he not have much influence on
Jagr? We'll have to see if any of the blue-collar players come to his rescue
the next time the opposition is beating up on him. The lad has a lot of growing
up to do.

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gdejong@mobius10.math.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Winnipeg Jets
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:22:05 GMT

	The Winnipeg Jets poor start has definitely seemed to turn them around.  They have played better than .500 hockey in December and have gone 4-1 since the trade with the New York Rangers.

	The trade with the Rangers has been a really good deal for the Jets.  Olczyk seemed uninspired with the Jets, and with their crop of rookies, the Jets had an overabundance of skilled, offensive forwards.  The extra toughness of Domi, the defensive play and physical presence of King, have helped the Jets immensely.
	
	I believe that the Oilers will have trouble catching the Jets.  The Jets have played considerably better at home this year than on the road.  The Jets play 4 more home games than road games the rest of the season, which does make a significant impact.  The Oilers are not in a similar situation.  Combined, with the Jets steady improvement as the season has progressed, I think the Jets will finish ten p[oints ahead of the Oilers.  And if the Kings keep slumping...

	Anyone know what the record for goals by a rookie forward in the NHL is?  Selanne has about 32 in 39 games.  I'm guessing that the record is under 60 goals. (I know that Nieuwendyk in his rookie year, slightly passed 50 goals, and I was under the impression that he was near the record, maybe set by Mike Bossy)

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From: crip@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Garth Werner)
Subject: Re: Jagr/Ruzicka/Klima
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:56:17 EST

> >Okay, let's see if I have this straight...
> >
> >Jaromir Jagr: Arrogant S.O.B. who stupidly picks fights with his own teammat
> >
> >Petr Klima: Formerly Probert's drinking buddy/doghouse mate.
> >
> >Vladimir Ruzicka: Harry Sinden's (current) problem child, thinks strike mean
> >end of season, eats too much deli food, illegally parks his black Mercedes.
> >
> >
> >If I'm not mistaken, all three of these guys are from the (former?) country 
> >Czechoslovakia.  Someone tell me a good story about an NHL'er from there, 
> >before I get a complex!!! :) :)
> 
> I think the Statsny Brothers Peter, Anton and Marion? are from Czechoslovakia
> They had a reputation of being hard workers while playing for the Nordiques.
> Peter had a bad slump the second half of the season with the Devils. He also
> had a contract dispute at the beginning of this season.
> 
> Maybe to be accurate
> in stereotyping European hockey players we should find out whether Klima, Jag
> Rosie, and the Statsnys are from Slovakia or Czechland.  
> 
> I believe Slovakia is much more rural and under-developed than the Czech half

        I don't know about the originals, but the Stastnys are Slovaks.  
I saw an interview where Peter pointed out the upcoming independance of 
his homeland.  He has been a fine model through his NHL years, breaking 
much of the ground for the former east-bloc players who now seem to be 
flooding the NHL market.

        Garth

        Habs for yet another Lord Stanley in '93

        Senators for yet another win in '93
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From: jrupert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason David Rupert)
Subject: Sad news
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:26:01 GMT

I just heard on the radio that Mario Lemieux has been diagnosed with
Hodgekins (sp?) disease.  I don't know what the effects of
this disease are but from the announcer's tone I'm afraid it might
be bad.  Does anyone know more about it?

Jason
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Gilbert Dionne?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:16:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
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I missed the first few minutes of the Leafs-Habs game last night ... can
someone fill me in on the status of Gilbert Dionne?  Did they say at the
beginning where he was?  I haven't heard he was sent down again, so I assume he
was a scratch, but I'd like to hear for sure what's going on with him.  
Any timeframe mentioned for the return of Denis Savard?  Any info would be
appreciated.

Cheers,
   Brad

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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Rookie of the Year Prospects
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:57:43 GMT
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Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:

>chrisq@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chris Quaranta) writes:
>> off in Winnipeg.  Namely, they are Joe Juneau of the Bruins, and Teemu
>> Selanne of the Jets.  (I'm going to leave Lindros out of this for now since
>> he's gotten too much air time on this net already 8-) )  Juneau has posted
>> totals of 13-36-49 (+17), while Selanne is at 28-21-49 (-9).  These are
>> pretty comparable totals if you consider the conventional wisdom that says
>> Juneau is more of an all-around player while Selanne is concentrated in the
>> offensive end.  But putting these images behind, what do you think of each of
>> these players? 

I think that in considering the stats you should take into
consideration the actual facts (rather than conventional wisdom) :-)
that Juneau plays for a team taht has a better record than the team
Selanne plays for.  

>Since I moved to Colorado, I haven't got to see Winnipeg play this year.  
>Juneau I'm more familiar with.  Points for Selanne:  1) He's the main 
>offensive threat on his team, and has accomplished what he has while 
>(I would think) he is personally the man other teams want to stop. 
>Juneau is the #2 gun on his line; oates is the main one.  So Juneau 
>has more help in scoring than Selanne does.   Points for Juneau, he 
>plays on a team not known for its scoring, esp. without Neely.  He 
>is a good all-around player, and he's *tough*.  

Selanne is the player the other teams want to stop.  In the Chicago
game on Sunday, Hawks, espcially Mr. Chris 'Slimeball' Chelios, were
hitting Selanne every chance they got.  

Also, Selanne is tough.  In the Edmonton game on New Year's Eve,
Selanne was giving Dave Manson (yes, Manson) a hard time; and HE was
looking for Manson, not just reacting to Manson looking for him.
Also, in the Chicago game, Selanne put a good hit on Brian Marchment.
To say that Selanne is not tough is to misrepresent him, although I
realize that you actually didn't say that.  

Selanne should be the Calder winner.  He has, what? 32 goals now?  If
you say "yeah, but alot of them are on the power play," I say you
don't think Juneau and Lindros are playing on the power play, too?  ON
the power play you're supposed to score, and Selanne is.  How that
could count against is unfathomable to me.  Juneau is playing for a
better team, which accounts for the difference in plus-minus.  Lindros
is not dominating as he was advertised to do, and he is not leading
his team, which is slightly worse than the Jets, in scoring despite
having a quality player to play with in Mark Recchi.  I realize that
Lindros's injury hampers his stats.  


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From: hanus@epas.utoronto.ca (Peter John Hanus)
Subject: Re: Stan Fischler, 1/9
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:07:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.171443.8594@eng.cam.ac.uk> yt1@eng.cam.ac.uk (Y. Tremblay) writes:
>In addition, Vancouver are not a serious contender for the cup, so for
>giving their future.  Only a team looking for the missing piece to get the
>cup this year or next year should be looking at Bourque.

Vancouver has the second best record in the league, what does it take
to be a serious contender?