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From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Subject: Re: ISO Bar-B-Q
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:54:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.180332.22179@colorado.edu>, jules@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (Julie DiBiase) writes:
> If you want _real_ BBQ, not yuppie BBQ, you might go next door
> from the East Coast Grill to Jake & Earl's Dixie BBQ.  For a 
> really unhealthy but yummy meal, try a pint of burnt ends.

It's the same BBQ!  Jake and Earl's is a carryout place with about four
stools, and the serve the same BBQ that is served next door at the East
Coast Grill.  I think the deal is that when the East Coast Grill started
to get a bit too small, they opened the place next door, and moved the
smokers over there.  If you wanted to "dine" and perhaps have a beer, the
East Coast Grill is the place to head.

While Jake and Earl's serves BBQ sandwich plates at around $5 each,
and a pint of BBQ goes for about $10, the East Coast Grill is much
more pricey.  Since I haven't been in there awhile, I'm not sure what
the current price is, but a dinner plate of pulled pork was about $14
the last time I was there.

Guy
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From: wp@sei.cmu.edu (William Pollak)
Subject: Re: Good restaurants in Atlanta
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:02:59 GMT


In article <1992Aug25.225332.11196@newshost.lanl.gov>, jroberts@beta.lanl.gov (Jack C. Roberts) writes:
|> My fiancee and I will be flying out of Atlanta for our honeymoon.
|> Therefore, we will be spending our wedding night there.  We are looking
|> for suggestions on good restaurants.  I have heard there is a circular
|> restaurant at the top of a tall building which rotates 360 degrees every hour.
|> Anyone ever been there or heard good/bad things about it?
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 				Thanks,
|> 				jack
|> 
If you like Mexican food, there are three or four restaurants called "El Toro"
in the Atlanta area that are outstanding.
From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Favorite New York City restaurants
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:07:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

15 years ago, there were some hot dog places called "nedik's"...they were
the BEST hot dogs i have ever had (and i live in chicago now!)

well, i fear that nedik's has gone the way of the dodo:(


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From: randy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Randy Feldman)
Subject: Re: Chicago
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:53:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.204151.2565@walter.cray.com> carroll@eastrg1.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
>> Also Edwardo's, IMO the best of the stuffed pies.  Gino's East is part
>> of a restaurant agglomeration [Lettuce Entertain You?] 
>
>Gino's East? Lettuce Entertain You? are you sure? 
>
>Of course, that would explain why it's so much more yuppified than the original Gino's...
>-- 
>Jeff Carroll
>carroll@reston.cray.com
>
Yes, I will confirm (whether this is good or bad, I don't know, but....)
	Gino's East is a Lettuce Entertain You Restaurant.


--
Randy Feldman
randy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu


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From: allison@convex.com (Brian Allison)
Subject: Re: San Francisco:  French, Italien, or "American" Suggestion
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:18:47 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <4885@rosie.NeXT.COM> llyons@next.com (Liza Lyons) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone have suggestions for French, Italien or "American" with great food,  
>service and ambiance (romantic if possible :-)).  I'd like prefer to spend no  
>more than $100 including about $30 - $40 for wine.

Since I got so many helpful suggestions on just this topic last month before my
wife and I went out there on vacation, I thought I'd return the favor.  Based
on advise from the net, a couple of friends, the Gault Millau "Best of San
Francisco" book, and (finally) my own experience, I humbly offer the following
suggestions, all easily within your budget:

Hayes Street Grill - Many say this is the best seafood in town.  I HIGHLY
recommend it if that's what you're looking for.

Fly Trap - This is an eclectic place a few blocks south of Market.  I had 
seafood here as well, every bit as good as Hayes Street's, and my wife had 
a hand-rolled ravioli dish that was to die for.  Great desserts too.

Caffe Sport - An experience in Sicilian eating!  North Beach area, on Green
near Columbus as I recall.  Seatings at 6:30, 8:30, and 10:30 only, and this
place gets jammed with people!  I wouldn't call the atmosphere "romantic"
though.  (What's with this spelling of "cafe" with two "f"'s, anyway?  I saw
this all over SF. :-)

China Moon Cafe - Probably the most interesting meal of our (8-day) trip.  
Depending on what you order, this is either Chinese-influenced French food, 
or French-influenced Chinese food.  We joined a friend here, and all three
entrees were fabulous, each in their own way.  Don't miss the ginger ice cream
with chocolate sauce.

For any of these places, I suggest you make reservations soon.  Have fun!

-- 
Brian Allison			"If pro and con are opposites, is
CONVEX Computer Corp.		 Congress the opposite of progress?"
Richardson, TX					- Richard Lederer
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From: avr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (adam.v.reed)
Subject: Re: Tips for Vancouver Needed
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:08:34 GMT
Summary: Croissanterie Paris recommendation


During the recent Distributed Computing conference, which was
held in the Coast Plaza hotel, I tried Croissanterie Paris, one
block south of the hotel, and then ate there every day for the
rest of my stay, sometimes several times a day. Their croissant
Croque Monsieur makes a *formidable* breakfast. Their tortes
and other pastries, including a sublime Mille Feuilles, are made
with cremes chantilly that combine an amazing variety of liqueurs
with real cultured creme fraiche - they have nothing in common
with the insipid butter creams and cool whip so often encountered
in pseudo-European pastries in North America. Just remembering
makes me wish I were visiting Vancouver again, soon...

				Adam_V_Reed@ATT.com
From: spl@szechuan.uucp (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Places to eat in Orlando/Miami/Keys ?
Followup-To: alt.flame
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:58:41 GMT
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: szechuan.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug28.163940.28475@chesapeake.ads.com> jclose@chesapeake.ads.com (Jeff Close) writes:
>In article <17lc41INNiul@network.ucsd.edu> spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug28.101808.24120@axion.bt.co.uk> sstorry@axion.bt.co.uk (Simon Storry) writes:
>>>Any of you folks got any good suggestions for places to eat/go in any of 
>>>these areas? 
>>I understand that U S Army Field Kitchens are quite popular these
>>days.
>>:-)
>Unfortunately, my in-laws in Miami would not find that very amusing.

I'll remember that next time we have a spate of California earthquake
jokes.

							spl
-- 
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UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UCSD Med School/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"O generation of the thoroughly smug/and thoroughly uncomfortable...
.. the fish swim in the lake/and do not even own clothing." - Ezra Pound
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From: jroberts@beta.lanl.gov (Jack C. Roberts)
Subject: Good restaurants in Atlanta
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:53:32 GMT

My fiancee and I will be flying out of Atlanta for our honeymoon.
Therefore, we will be spending our wedding night there.  We are looking
for suggestions on good restaurants.  I have heard there is a circular
restaurant at the top of a tall building which rotates 360 degrees every hour.
Anyone ever been there or heard good/bad things about it?



				Thanks,
				jack
From: bsmith@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (ROBERT SMITH)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Dayton Eats
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:58:54 GMT
Reply-To: bsmith@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (ROBERT SMITH)
Distribution: na
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

To your list of recommended restaurants, I suggest you add the Savory
Restaurant.  IMHO, they have one of the most interesting menus in the area. 
Their cuisine is fairly modern, the ingredients fresh, and the prices not too
bad.  The ambiance is just OK.
-- 
Bob Smith
E-mail => Robert.D.Smith@daytonoh.ncr.com
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From: cpalmer@dingo.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: Why do people like hot-spicy food?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:14:34 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro MA

In article <TTKIC33@taronga.com> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.002317.9653@nmt.edu>, john@nmt.edu (John Shipman) writes:
>> 
>> [2] While we're on the subject of beans, her beans don't
>> give you gas.  To prevent flatus, soak dried pinto beans
>> overnight, then discard the soaking water and add fresh
>> water for cooking.
>
>According to a Time/Life cookbook, the substance that gives you gas
>is a mild toxin that is denatured by heat.  So to avoid getting gas,
>boil your beans for a good ten minutes sometime while you're cooking them.
>-- 
I wouldn't do this, in my experience boiled (as opposed to very slowly
simmered) beans tend to develop a tough skin. The soaking and then
using fresh water seems to work fairly well for me. Also, somebody
posted a while ago that eating some fresh cilantro before eating
beans would prevent gas.
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Data General Corporation                 dust to dust,
Network Systems Development Division     If Lillee don't get you,
cpalmer@dingo.webo.dg.com                Thommo must!"
From: llyons@next.com (Liza Lyons)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: San Francisco:  French, Italien, or "American" Suggestion
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:45:26 GMT

Hi,

Even though I live in the Bay area, I rarely venture to SFO for a night on the  
town, so now that I have activities planned for this weekend, I don't know  
where to go for dinner !

Does anyone have suggestions for French, Italien or "American" with great food,  
service and ambiance (romantic if possible :-)).  I'd like prefer to spend no  
more than $100 including about $30 - $40 for wine.

Thanks !! 

Liza
Xref: sparky rec.food.restaurants:1910 rec.food.cooking:15626
From: jlacoss@isi.edu (Jeff LaCoss)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: Why do people like hot-spicy food?
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:45:33 GMT
Reply-To: jlacoss@paddington.isi.edu (Jeff LaCoss)
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute

(Shailendra Save) writes:
>(Judy Tolliver) writes:
>>(John Shipman)
>>wrote:
>>> Someone in ba.food asked why people deliberately eat very
>>> spicy food........
>>An anthropologist friend once told me that spicy food is eaten so much in
>>the tropics because it helps the body cope with the hot weather by
>>promoting sweat or something like that.

>  Could be that the tropics were the only areas where the spices grew,
>and so the people had a better access to it over a period of time, giving
>them a chance to experiment and include it in their daily cuisine.  The
>spice trade in the 13-14 century was well known, bringing different spices
>to the Europeans who had hitherto not heard of (much less tasted) them.

 Close, but no cigar. The "spice trade" was for black pepper, mace,
allspice, nutmeg, cardamom, cloves, etc., which come from Indonesia
and the surrounding area. The Arabs and Eastern Europeans had these
spices indirectly from SE Asia LONG before Western Europe established
direct contact.

 What we call "spicy" foods comes from the addition of hot peppers of
varying sorts, which come from the New World. I seem to recall that
ALL hot peppers originated in the Andes and so were not just a
post-Columbian transfer, but post Incan-conquest. (Some of the
Peruvian food I've had, at restaurants and at friends' houses, I would
match against any other variety in terms of heat content.)

 If you want to try pre-Columbian Indian food, particularly curry, use
a generous dose of garam masala and leave the hot peppers out. It
tastes great, but obviously lacks the kick we know and love. (My
Indian friends all subscribe to the "sweat theory" of blazing-hot
tropical dishes).


	Jeff

 By the way, in MY one brush with anthro, I heard that the cross-
cultural diffusion of tobacco - another gift of the New World - from
Europe to Asia was so fast that it was fully incorporated in local
cultures before Europeans managed to establish regular direct contact
with the areas.
 When ya gotta great product, it sells itself (chi-chi-cha).
From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: John Harvard's - new restaurant in Harvard Sq, MA
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:09:36 GMT
Followup-To: rec.food.restaurants
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: selick@csa.bu.edu's message of 31 Aug 92 21:45:44 GMT

In article <95039@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:

<   Last night I happened upon a new restaurant in Harvard Sq, in Cambridge,
<   Massachusetts. Apparently, it opened in the middle of last week. The
<   food was excellent, as well as the service. They even brew their own
<   beer! I got a Brittisher Burger which came on an English Muffin, with
 
WARNING: if pressed the staff will admit they are NOT brewing their own
beer at this time. Repeat at the present JH's is not brewing their own beer.
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From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: Good restaurant in/near Miami
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 18:11:47 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <TRaeqB6w164w@cellar.org>  failsafe@cellar.org (Failsafe) writes:
> I'm visiting relatives in Boca Raton in a few weeks and would like to take
> them to a really good restaurant to celebrate a special occasion. Does
> anyone have any suggestions in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/Boca/ West Palm
> areas? A good wine list is a plus!

Let me preface this by saying that I have no idea what their current 
situation is after the hurricane last week, but the absolute best meal I had 
in Miami was Mark's Place in North Miami Beach.  It has the highest rating 
for food that I have ever seen in Zagat, a 28.  A really great place, very 
stylish patrons, too (well, except for me that time).  The brother/sister 
team who runs Le Bernardin in NYC also opened a place in Coral Gables (I 
think), and it is supposed to be excellent.  

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
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From: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist))
Subject: Tequila
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:35:24 GMT

While in Aspen, I was given a bottle of Patron tequila by a restaurant owner.
The tequila, which was available in Aspen for about $35/bottle, was quite
arguably the best tequila I have ever had.  The texture was very smooth, and
the fragrance was delicate and subtle, yet assertive.

Has anyone in the east coast seen this?  I deeply regret not bringing a bottle
home.
-- 
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Artificial Intelligence Laboratory : Please be gentle.  I have to get 
University of Ottawa, Ont., Canada : acclimatised to the low altitude here.
H: +1 613 237 6642     W: 564 8155 : I was a mountain goat there...
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From: anderson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Chris Anderson)
Subject: Fargo, ND suggestions wanted
Summary: wanted suggestions for good restaurants in fargo nd
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:48:41 GMT
Keywords: fargo north dakota

Ok.  So there is no good restaurant in Grand Forks, ND, if the total
lack of response is any indication. 

Would anyone have any suggestions for lunch ($4-8 range) and dinner
($6-12 range) in Fargo?  Quality of food, cleanliness, and all those
wonderful things are essential.  Vegetarian, sandwich, steak, and pizza
places welcome.  In essence, good food wanted.

chris anderson
anderson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
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From: milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose)
Subject: Re: ISO Bar-B-Q
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:51:05 GMT

In article <kiran.715558503@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
> jules@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (Julie DiBiase) writes:
> 
> >If you want _real_ BBQ, not yuppie BBQ, you might go next door
> >from the East Coast Grill to Jake & Earl's Dixie BBQ.  For a 
> 
> Ah yes, yuppie barbecue.  It's lure, at its quintessential location,
> Carson's in Chicagoland, has lured even jane & Michael Stern from the
> One true path.

(I think Jane and Michael are utter numb-skulls, but that's beside the
point)

No way, no how is East Coast Grill anything like Carson's, despite
Julie's label of "yuppie".  You will find "true BBQ" there, whether
it be Texas-style brisket, K.C. style ribs, Memphis dry-rubbed ribs,
or North Carolina pulled pork.  The "yuppie" label probably refers to
it being a rather popular place, and its rather high prices.  They
also are into things like grilled fish, and Jerk chicken, and are home
of the quasi-famous "Inner Beauty Hot Sauce".  Jake & Earl's is a
carryout place next store where you can pick up exactly the same
BBQ that is served in the East Coast Grill, at somewhat reduced prices.

-- 
Guy Klose
milo@mvuxi.att.com
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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Why do people like hot-spicy food?
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:17:15 GMT

In article <22997@sybase.sybase.com>, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
> In article <17lrc3INNqtb@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
> >Ahhh!  The spicy food 'buzz'!  Yes, I've experienced it.  Yes, I enjoy it.
> 
> Back in my misspent youth, I subscribed to HIGH TIMES magazine, one
> section of which was monthly devoted to the perpetual pursuit of the
> legal high.  Anyway, the point of the article's presence in HT was 
> that capsaicin is actually a drug.  

I've only gotten a chile pepper high once.  It was while I was in my
quest for Thai food that was hot enough (I'd go to Thai restaurants
and tell them I'd want it hot and they'd go, "Oh, yes, hot enough for
you" but it wouldn't be) so finally I got the courage up to order a
dish that was Thai hot.  Was so hot my husband refused to eat it so
I put away most of it.  It was good, but the taste of the peppers
overpowered the rest of the dish.  
When the high hit, I wouldn't exactly describe it as a buzz.  I got
real relaxed and mellow and it lasted for about 20 minutes.  Was
weird, for sure.
One of these days I'll have to try it again.  :-)
-- 
Stephanie da Silva                                    arielle@taronga.com
  "Isn't it romantic?  When roosters fall in love... they lose
                                     all reason...." -- Peepers the Mouse
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From: sasqatch@access.digex.com (Ralph E. Nelson)
Subject: Re: Middleburg, VA
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:50:37 GMT

emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro) writes:
> sm6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Saul Markowitz) writes:
>>I'll be visiting Middleburg, VA this weekend and in some need of some
>>names of restaurants.  I'll only need a nice restaurant to visit
>>Saturday evening.  My main reason going is to visit the numerous Antique
>
>
>        Hey Saul/Beth (?!). I used to live in Middleburg!  I used
>        to like the Red Fox Inn & Tavern.  Have fun!  And if the
>.....
>        Ah, yes, the Tavern isn't all that fancy, but IMHO it has
>        better food than the "fancy" restaurant in town.  But that
>        was a while ago...things may have changed.

I went there for a special occassion just about a year or so ago, and
have to second the motion.  Red Fox Inn & Tavern is a really nice place.
Prices are decent, atmosphere is relaxed, food is good.  And it has a 
nice little (and I mean *little* downtown area to walk around in after
dinner (err... *Middleburg* has the downtown, not RFI&T... oops).

--
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From: spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Places to eat in Orlando/Miami/Keys ?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 14:10:09 GMT
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitstop.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug28.101808.24120@axion.bt.co.uk> sstorry@axion.bt.co.uk (Simon Storry) writes:
>Any of you folks got any good suggestions for places to eat/go in any of 
>these areas? 

I understand that U S Army Field Kitchens are quite popular these
days.

:-)

							spl
-- 
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"O generation of the thoroughly smug/and thoroughly uncomfortable...
.. the fish swim in the lake/and do not even own clothing." - Ezra Pound
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