From: b5249-23@mathcs.sjsu.edu (Kurt Stocklmeir)
Newsgroups: sci.physics
Subject: Physics Questions and advance waves
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:08:16 GMT
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.

From John Baez
>The point, yet again, is that according to general relativity, the sun
>CAN'T just "disappear," since this would violate (local) conservation of
>energy.  So GR makes no prediction about what would happen 
>Of course, the experiment has not ever been done.

mutant alien space monsters steal stars all the time
John did you know 1 out of 50 people think they were captured by a ufo
but the plot of the mutant alien space monsters does not belong in sci.physics
if they stole the sun, either gravity would disappear with the sun or
gravity already emitted moving at c would still be around for 8 minutes

>However, there seems to be pretty good evidence of the double neutron star
>observations that GR does well at predicting how gravitational radiation
>works.

an electron emits a gravitational field and an electric field but it does
not lose any energy

I know something that we agree on. You talked about advance waves. I think
we can agree on that advance waves need more research. Just happens to be 1 of
my most favorite things. As Tom said somebody could be watching and do
research if they see something they like. You better get a time machine fast
because the mutant alien space monsters have them or else they could not have
gotten here and they are going to steal the sun

Modern Aether Science       By Aspden               p. 97
Dirac changing o radius, small radius, infinite radius  of electrons and
because equations of motion have acceleration but not force
"It would appear that we have a contradiction of causality.  The electron
seems to know about the pulse before it arrives and to get up to an
acceleration (as the equations of motion allow it to do), just sufficient
to balance the effect of the pulse when it does arrive."
Schott              1 of his articles
"This equation shows that the whole of the work done by the external
field is converted into kinetic energy of the electron just as if there
had been no radiation at all.  None of it is radiated  Thus we see
that the energy radiated by the electron is derived entirely from its
acceleration energy."
Dirac not to Schott
"In this way a signal can be sent from A to B faster than light.  This
is a fundamental departure from the ordinary ideas of Relativity and is
to be interpreted by saying that it is possible for a signal to be
transmitted faster than light through the interior of the electron.  The
finite size of the electron now reappears in a new sense the interior
of the electron being, a region of failure, not of the field equations
of electromagnetic theory but of some elementary properties of space
time."
P. 101
Hoyle in 1970 at Kelvin lecture Institution of Electrical Engineers
"The basis of such speculation is an analogy with the familiar action and
reaction concept in classical mechanics."
"to be able to signal to a distant object, something must be propagating
from the object to the signaller-a signal from the future."
Hoyle and Narlikar    A New Theory of Gravitation
Proc. Roy. Soc. A V. 282 P.191-207 1964
IEE News P.16, May 11, 1970
Ideas of Hoyle I will change and add
For every act in time and space there is a opposite act and for anything
that allows an act there is something that allows an opposite act.  Things
like energy, momentum, inertia all fit into equations.

1                      2

when something moves from 1 to 2
something else moves from 2 to 1
when something moves forward in time from 1 to 2
something moves back in time from 2 to 1
when something that is moving from 1 to 2 stops
something moving from 2 to 1 stops or slows down
Fuel in a rocket burns, the rocket goes forward and the fuel goes backward.
rocket goes forward in space and forward in time
            something goes back in space and back in time
fuel goes backward in space and forward in time
            something goes forward in space and back in time
This allows a symmetry in time and space and not only in space.
Things like energy, kinetic energy, momentum, inertia need to be put
into certain equations. Energy, momentum, etc. can not be conserved unless
waves go forward and back in time. There is inertia in space between
particles.  But there is also inertia in time between particles.  That
would cause particles moving in time to keep moving in the same direction
in time, at the same speed in time, and resist any changes.  As the amount
of time increases the force decreases. For example, inertia from a particle
a long time ago is less than inertia from a particle in past not a long time
ago. The inertia that is observed is made up of many componets.

1   2   3   4

if something moves from 1 to 4 forward in time, and if energy is being used
all the way, and 1 - 2, 2 - 3, 3 - 4 are smallest steps in time and space,
then when first step to 2 is made, something moves from 2 to 1 back in time,
something moves from 2 to 1 forward in time, something moves from 1 to 2
back in time.  This happens ateach step 2,3,4.  This also applies to
creating particles and antiparticles, destroying particles and antiparticles,
interacting using forces, etc.

Feynman made a theory a photon decays into electron and antielectron is
scattering 1 particle forward in time and back in time, but I do not if
he believed it.  He was right.  For example this can be seen in mistakes
of modern physics with Dirac's equation.  It has 4 solutions, but only 2
are used.  The other 2 are forgotten while people take the antiparticle
with negative energy and change it to positive energy.  

PAULI EXCLUSION PRINCIPLE NEEDS FTL AND ADVANCE WAVES
What Is The World Made Of   Feinberg I think said that no 2 electrons in
universe can have they same momentum in x,y,z and have same spin because
of the Pauli Exclusion Principle. To test if a particle can go into a state
with distances in universe, only advance waves can do it. When a photon  is
ready to break into an electron and antielectron, something checks to see if
there is another electron or antielectron with same momentum and spin in the
universe and if there is it stops it with a force. The force does not do
anything except stop the photon from breaking. It does not give extra energy
to the photon. Do electrons go into a state and then is thrown out of it if it
can not stay in the state? If an electron in an atom in a higher energy orbit
jumps to a lower orbit emitting a photon and gets thrown back up absorbing the
photon again, it will spend about 1/2 time in lower state and 1/2 time in
higher state since electrons are dumb, they will keep jumping until they get
to stay at the lower level. They stay in the higher level. There is a force
that stops the electron from jumping to the lower level and it is equal to the
photon energy.  The force does not do anything but hold the electron up.  It
does not try to push it to a higher energy level. 

Not all people agree that a charged particle with an acceleration emits
radiation.  An electron in orbit around a nucleus has an acceleration, but it
does not emit radiation.  They use that example to try to prove their
theory.  It is not an imbalance of charges that will emit radiation, since
an extra electron in a negative ion will not emit radiation and the orbit
destroyed.

Because of space I will give 1 simple example of dumb physics. There are 4
particles. 1 has a charge and accleration. 2 has the same acceleration as 1
and does not see any radiation since it is emitted in the elsewhere part of
light cone.  3 and 4 see 1 with acceleration and radiation. If 3 and 4 have
an energy level that can absorb the radiation, they go into an excited state.
3 and 4 emit photons and go to a not excited state. 2 can then see the photons
from 3 and 4 and relativity is destroyed. If a person said that 2 did not see
3 and 4 in an excited state but 1, 3, 4 did and then they must be admitting
that there are an infinite number of parallel universes. If they admit that 2
will see the photons, then they are admitting that particles moved from
elsewhere to the future part of a light cone using an indirect method and that
relativity is wrong.  Photons can move from elsewhere to past also. When
people say photons were emitted in elsewhere they are saying that photons
travel at different speeds. Inside Relativity Mook and Vargish p. 249 has to
do with speeds of tachyons.  Part or all of elsewhere is associated with
moving faster than the speed of light.

Because energy comes from somewhere like Cereknov radiation, particles created
from supercritical fields, etc. there are advance waves.  Particles are
postive energy.  Antiparticles are negative energy.  Photons are kind of
neutral energy.  If I have a bunch of electron and that is all I can not do a
lot.  I can not get any energy to create photons or forces.  I can not create
any antielectrons.  If all I have is postive energy, I can not create any
photons or antiparticles.  If all I have is negative energy, I can not create
any photons or particles.  That means if the energy of the vacumm is positive,
I can not create any photons or antiparticles or if the energy of the vacumm
is negative I can not create any photons or particles.  An electron sitting in
space emits a gravitional field and an electric field but it does not lose
energy.  It is getting the energy from somewhere like the vacuum.  The vacuum
is made up of negative energy tachyons and the forces are negative energy
tachyons.  Look at equations associated with ssb.  They allow tachyons.  They
also allow particles to be made up of tachyons.  Vacuum made of tachyons would
solve horizon problem, constant density of vacuum since number of tachyons are
not constant, and when volume of vacuum increases, negative work is done,
since negative energy does negative work.  If the particles that make up the
vacuum are normal particles, black holes would be able to capture them and get
bigger.  If you look at equations associated with monopoles you will find that
the vacuum with mass equal to 0 are monopoles.  That is what happens with
black holes.  As a particle approaches a black hole it speeds up because of
gravity.  Tachyons lose energy and can get mass = 0.  They become monopoles
and emit magnetic fields, while they kill the magnetic fields of the opposite
pole.  That is how a galaxy gets a magnetic field, since black holes are in
the centers of galaxies.  If the black hole is big, then the galaxy is a radio
galaxy, with extremely large magnetic fields and charged particles following
them.  But extremely large black holes would act not the same.  Because of the
large gravity fields, the particles that make up the vacuum would become
monopoles outside the black hole.  When they are monopoles they would emit
Cereknov radiation, which is blue light.  That is why quasars are blue.  In a
radio galaxy, the particles that make up the vacuum become monopoles inside
the black hole, and the light can not get out of it.  The redshift of quasars
does not have a lot to do with distance.
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