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Subject: Absolutely nothing about the inquisitor's birthday...
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:26:11 GMT
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>> Wouldn't be getting just a little concerned about middle-age dread, eh? (and
>> "losing the war in the waistland spread...").
>>
>> OMC: Gold star for naming the tune I just quoted from...
>>
>> Bob Tee


>Just guessing:
>    Frankie Goes To Holliwood, called something like 'The Warriors of
>the Waistlands'. The tape with that song for some reason was the only
>one confiscated among tons of other tapes, when one of my friends
>returned from his European trip. I guess, the customs workers took it
>too close to their heart. :)
>           Ilia.

Nope, it was from "Punch and Judy" by Marillion. Pretty cool tune about the
boredom of middle-aged marriage ("What ever happened to hard fast drives,
compliments on unnatural size?"). No relation at all, I assume, to anyone on
the list...

Frankie was really Trevor Horne's album. Production to the max! I remember all
the hype when they played their first ever show in North America (in Montreal).
The whole band turned out to be a bunch of dweebs.

>Stevie Ray Vaughan: The Sky Is Crying
>    A collection of odds 'n' ends, but WOW what a collection! His version
>    of Hendrix's Little Wing is absolutely stunning, easily one of his best
>    ever performaces. I hope they find more stuff in the archives, but the
>    liner notes say that this is about it. There'll always be live concert
>    material to fall back on though. What a loss. Perhaps this is wrong to
>    say, but Clapton already had his "long and fruitful carreer", Stevie
>    was just coming into his prime. I'm really glad I got to see him in 86.

You should pick up the just recently released Stevie Vaughan (this was before
he added the 'Ray') live album. Recorded in Austin with some sizzling cover
versions and a magnificent rendition of Tin Pan Alley.

>Blues tapes?  Are you a convert?  Bob Tee... your tapes should have arrived by
>now.  I guess the snail to Canada is even slower than domestic snail.

Sonia, I just got your tapes yesterday. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
you,...ad nauseum. I've only barely got through the first side of tape 1, but
what a side!! The Hendrix tune is brillant, the John Lee Hooker live songs
really cook, but the Etta James song!!!!! Oh my, I had shivers! Any word on
the rest of that album (I think it was called _Sticking to my Guns_)? I'll
let ya know what I think of the rest...No doubt it'll be supoib!

Bob Tee
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From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bob Marley rarities
              20 Nov 1992 11:26:05 +22322105 from
              <frenkel@CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>

  Concerning the early Bob Marley albums, I took a look in my 'Boys
Book of Rock' ::-)  and saw that it said that _African Herbsman_ (1973)
and _Rasta Revolution_ (1974) were issued on Island (just after _Burnin'_
was released).  The only Trojan release that they mentioned was _Soul
Rebel_ from 1971.  I somehow don't believe that AH and RR were issued on
Island - but, I also don't think that they were on Trojan either!
Can anyone help us?

Hosko
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Subject: Re: Cataloguing the record collection
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:33:34 GMT
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              "Little Inquisitor" at Nov 17, 92 1:13 pm

ss
> disposal and/or eviction.  So far, though, it's a standoff.  And, finally, ho
w
> do the rest of you deal with 45s and 78s?
>


I'll tell you how my mother dealt with our collection of 78s (or at least
most of them... and we're talking about a sizable classical collection): she
broke them over her head. SERIOUSLY!  It was kind of a party (I guess this took
place in the late 50s??? can't quite recall the timing)

My mother also buys up cheap china in goodwill stores and brings it to Greek
restaurants where people dance to a live band, and when she dances (she is
GOOD, I mean to tell
you! REALLY good) she follows tradition by smashing the crockery on the floor.

My mother is a trip.

Sonia "I'm one hell of a dancer--I once won first prize in a twisting contest
among many hundreds of contestants... This was in 1983, not 1963, however"

P.S. Malbuff-- I DO like Husker Du's SOUND--it's only the beat that disappoints
me (too regular).  But truthfully I haven't heard them in a long time and maybe
my tastes have been so destroyed by being on this net that I will hear them
differently.  Have no fear--send those tapes or "virtual" Sonia may raid your
fancy new studio.

P.P.S. While I'm on a rampage of meaningless posts here, let me tell you about
the time (again late 50s--this dates me but of course I was a teeny tiny child
at the time)... when my parents had a live band (jazz) play in our house and
our poor bird Papa Gano DIED because of the sound.  That was really awful.
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:49:42 GMT


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Subject:      Paul McCartney

>From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>McCartney's _Ram_ sounds like a lot of it
>could have been on the _White Album_, circa 1968.

At least some of _Ram_ had been written earlier.  I have a bootleg album
from the _Let It Be_ sessions (_Kum Back_) that has Paul showing "Teddy
Boy" to the band for the first time.  As frequently happens with first
run-throughs, the song gets repeated several times as the musicians try
to work out their parts.  Apparently John got bored with the tune as
you can hear him doing square dance calls in the background. 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         Debbie Scheibal <DPDS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Answers from birthday contest winners

> uhhhhhh......48.
>
> Debbie
>
> <Come on Debbie, just a stab in the dark or did you rifle thru my files
> looking for my birth certificate?>

Oh I thought about it.  You've always seemed to have a lot of knowledge
on varying subjects...(also you gave clues in your contest proposal).
SSS, but I never was much of a writer.  (I do want to hear your tape
though!)

Debbie
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:33:37 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Cataloguing the record collection

>many stories, many great stories, about the blues clubs there. But... not
>in wintertime, thanks all the same. I've seen too many TV films of folks
>fighting their way up the sidewalk against the arctic winds like Hillary
>(Sir Edmund, that is, not Clinton) trying to climb Everest.

Hey David - Hillary Clinton is from Chicago too....and it's really no
colder than NYC, at least not yet...

Marsha
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:33:11 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Re: do bee do bee do help...

Renato said:

>Against my best judgment cause I don't like this song (or Sinatra):
>
>Strangers in the night, exchanging glances  [that's all?]
>Wondring in the night what were the chances  [depends on your animal magnetism]
>We'd be sharing love before the night was through [just practice safe sex
>                                                   if you're going to exchange
>                                                   more than glances & love]
[more silliness deleted]

Thanks Renato, baby...  wunnerful wunnerful!  I particularily liked your
appended comments.  :)  :)

I also got the lyrics from (none other than) the Bloomster... though he sent
them privately so as to avoid the net.insinuations that would be generated by
the very fact that he knew the words to this (but then again, he forgot he was
dealing with me)... :)  :)

And to think that Fripp called Bloomie clueless and slightly slack!  Pah!  ;*)
Clueless?!  Shit, this man barfs out facts about King Crimson (and maybe
Sinatra) like they were yesterday's greasy breakfast!  Pah!  And slack?!  NOT!
I've got a first-hand counter-example of that! I found Michael to be nothing
short of erect.   :*)

>[Was it as good for you as it was for me?]

Oh... Renato... baby... seeng for'd me, dawlink....   ;)

Now my poet friend and I can get on with co-authoring our own version of
"Strangers in the Night", aptly entitled, "Strangers in the Net"...  I wonder
if I could find a bodhran part in the tune somewhere? Mahhhhhhhh ha ha!

Lyrically yours,
Thumper!

p.s. anyone picked up the soundtrack to _Dracula_ yet?
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Genesis Live: Good disc/Bad disc

-adam says:

>I just got the info on the new Genesis live disc which comes out today:
>
>The Way We Walk Volume I -- The Shorts
>[titles deleted]
>
>  Genesis live - the way we walk - Volume two: the longs
>  Dance on a Volcano / Lamb lies down on Broadway / The Musical Box /
>  Firth of Fifth / I know what I like / Driving the last spike / Domino
>  - Part 1 - In the glow of the night / Part 2 - The last domino /
>  Fading lights / Home by the sea / Drum duet

        This one sounds quite better. I don't think the division of the
songs on the two sets was made randomly :).
        The only thing I'm afraid, regardless of the titles, is that they
made a monster live album in 1977 with "Seconds Out", but the next "Three
Sides Live" was rather dull in comparison. Will they be able to revamp the
old energy?

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:43:55 EST
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sundry items
              at Nov 17, 92 11:26 pm

>
>        Well, I don't think that either of us can, or even should,
> understand political or moral essence of the event like that. I was
> talking mostly about the aesthetical side of it, about the way it looks.
> ('cause we are watching it, right? well, of course, we are listening to
> it too). You might be quite right, and the militia-men really did change
> the camps. I was just saying that *I* cannot perceive it in that way. I
> was intentionally subjective, in other words. And I think both attitudes
> can be equally insightful or equally naive. (Studied dialectics at my
> Marxism lessons :))
>                  Ilia.
>

Well, you're right in that we'll never know whether those guys were just
obeying an impulse of the moment, or whether they actually went in a different
direction after that event.  But what did get me while I watched them was that
several of them (of course, the only ones who did this were obviously really
young) had this utterly blissful, goofy look--and they were in total
disarray--i.e. it didn't LOOK like some official strategy of "blend with the
enemy."   I guess everything was in flux at that time anyway--it was obviously
RIGHT after the coup (maybe a few weeks at most).

On another subject: I hate to bring up the DREAD M-PERSON but a friend of mine
works in the library in Rare Books/Special Collections, and she told me about
the hilarious almost medieval ritual that transpired when the Dread M-Person's
latest book arrived.  While most volumes languish for days, weeks, months,
years, or centuries in the Pre-Cat area, this one was hand-carried by an honor
guard through ACquisitions, Cataloging, etc. etc. STRAIGHT up to Rare Books.
And then a long line of library employees showed up, waiting to view it.
Damn, why doesn't this happen with Wittgenstein or Tolstoy or Emily Dickinson
or Proust or Cervantes or Flaubert?

Sonia "nothing to put in quotes today"
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      ...my feet won't touch the ground...

>From: "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
>Subject: Bad luck and trouble been my only friend

>Latest King Crimson rumors I've heard have Jerry Marotta out of the picture
>(the Gabriel tour is supposed to cover the globe and last for all of 1993),
>and the latest drummer is: Michael Giles! Ian McDonald is also mentioned as

        Non-KC-related question: so Marotta should be back in Gabriel's band?
This sounds nice: but I also seem to remember that Marotta is not on the last
record -- so I would have bet for Manu Katche' once again. Time will tell.

>From: Vampire Lestat <wk00636@WORLDLINK.COM>
>Subject: Today's Music and Change...

>Hello Everyone out there in ALLMUSIC!
>[several dozens of lines about rave and techno deleted]

        Sorry, I can't agree with a single point you make. I respect your
ideas and tastes, but "your values are twisted -- let us help you unwind"
(only joking, here!) :)

>From: mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
>Subject: RE: I bought a marimba yesterday!

>Look, Marco -
>I know you're an authority on this stuff, but isn't that close enough?
>There are many terms in the english language that can't be literally
>translated either! Most of our oxymorons fall under that category....jumbo
>shrimp, etc. Can you imagine trying to explain the term "heavy metal"
>literally? WE know it doesn't mean iron ore....but a person trying to
>translate it might have trouble getting that across. The esteemed
>dictionary was probably going by common usage...

        I thought my aulic tone would be enough to give the impression
of my joke... :). Anyway, I must disagree: it's not very close. If you
say "a cappella", in Italian, the immediate picture is that the *voices*
form a chapel-like structure, not that these people are singing in a
chapel. I am not into music history enough to claim this is the meaning,
but it's really what it means in Italian. I find the picture quite in-
teresting, though: voices like a structure that has a basis, i.e. a foun-
dation, and becomes narrow as you go "high"... nice image for a choir.
It must be said that the term is stretched, anyway, since "a cappella"
can also indicate a *single* voice without instruments.

And then Fripp on Bloom!

>The Boston critic and music writer Michael Bloom, in a review of "The Essential
>King Crimson," suggested that in the Scrapbook to that set I adopted a rather
>hard-done-by tone in terms of my dealings with musicians and management. While
>not wishing to become a member of The Whine Society, regarding the management
>position Mr. Bloom is uninformed and, as might have been said by the Crimson
>members on these present records, Clueless and Slightly Slack.

        My compliments, Michael. Not everyday's life, huh? ;)

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:25:48 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cataloguing the record collection

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:22:05 MST Thumper said:
>Renato asked:
>
>>And, finally, how do the rest of you deal with 45s and 78s?
>
And Libby Doe responded:

>I use them for one of the hockey players fantasy routines:  I get buck naked,
>swab myself with shoe polish until I'm black as a panther, attach a 45 to my
>head in a slight slant and pretend I'm Grace Jones...   *growl*

Gee, the hockey player is far more adventuresome than I had imagined.  Let's
just go through this slowly:  you're a jet-black panther; so I gather you're
mostly on all fours, with a nasty snarl and your jaws right about *that* height
 on the hockey player's -- how I can put this delicately -- frame.  No, I think
I'd take a pass on this one.  BTW, does he wear a steel cup during the enactmen
t of these sports fantasies?  (This must be stickwork at its finest.)

>78's... well... I'm much too young to have any of those...  :)

Libby dear:  You haven't lived until you've listened to a pristine Capitol flex
i copy of Be-Bop-A-Lula by Gene Vincent; a Dinah Washington early pressing on
Mercury; or one of the countless Doo Wops from the 50s.  (Who else has other fa
vorites?)

Renato "Stacks of shellac" Barahona

>Hugs,
>Libby Doe,
>part-time dominatrix
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:05:55 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: lookin' fer a git-box for ma man

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:50:04 EST jcs said:
>
>Also, i ran into a Fender Jaguar at a pawn shop
>and the guy wanted $990. for it. It looks like
>its in good shape...anyone know what the chances
>are in getting this guy down to about 600. instead?
>(Fred, the pawnmaster, knows guitars, so he knows
>that this is a good box)

I've seen these much cheaper their not as sought after as people believe,
something can be old and rare, but if there is no demand for it that kinda
price is not justified....IMHO 600.00 is overpriced.. for 600.00 you could get
something much nicer IMHO but if that's what you want so be it............L.W.

>Ps. I finally got a copy of Madonna's first on cd. psyche.

I'm sorry...............L.W.
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From:         BEHR5606@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      Metallica fans

I've seen Metallica twice this year in concert. I saw them in the
beginning of the year at the Knickerbocker Arena in Albany and then on
September 11th with G'n'R at Foxboro Stadium.  I was wondering when their
next concert tour is and if anybody knows when their next album is
supposed to come out.  I have all their old stuff and can't wait for some
new songs, because they seem to get better with each album. Even without
Cliff Burton.

Brett Behrens
S.U.N.Y. Plattsburgh
Plattsburgh, NY
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Date: 19 Nov 92 00:50:09 GMT
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 Renato -
     Why did I think you were actually IN Italy?  I know you're Eye-talian,
 by your name, at least.  Oh, well.
     I'll be home (at my parents) all of next week.  When I come back,
 post-Thanksgiving, I'll post the address for you.

 Cheers,
  Randy
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:07:02 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Birthday contest

OK, today's my birthday.  (You know what they say about Scorpios,
don't you? They're aggressive, high-strung, intelligent, creative and
great lovers.  Take it from me; don't believe *everything* you hear!)
So, I'm going to run a contest to guess my age.  The winner -- whoever
guesses my age, or comes closest -- will receive a prize from me
in the form of some of my favorite music,
but not without some strings attached: i.e., the winner must
review the music on Allmusic in a no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoners
in-your-face piece.  To assure compliance, at contest's end,
I'll announce my age, give a full
reference of the music involved, and name the winner (or winners,
in which case I'll send out more than one tape -- possibly the same
one just to see how the same music is reviewed by different
people.  Would this be fun or what?!)  Contest deadline: Nov. 20
at midnight.

Post responses on Allmusic or send directly to me.  There will be
no brownie points for generous estimates; nor will there be
deductions for making me as old as Methuselah.

If you *must* send gifts, I have a weakness for rare jazz, blues,
psych and garage band -- hell, I'll even pay the postage.

BTW, in case you're wondering, my favorite birthday song is
"Happy, happy birthday, baby" by the Tune Weavers.  What's yours?


Renato "Looking for the Fountain of Youth and trying to avoid
complete bourgeois respectability" Barahona


P.S. In former days when I had a jet-black mustache, I was some-
times mistaken for Omar Sharif and asked for my -- his -- auto-
graph.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:19:30 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Husker Du & Birthday Guess

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:10:00 CDT <S_SWANK@TWU> said:
>I seem to be the only person so far who's favorite Husker Du album is
>"Flip Your Wig." The songs are all great on that one IMHO (see?? catchin'
>on here!) and I still like to listen to "Divide and Conquer" some mornings
>as I prepare to go forth and greet the world.
>
>On the subject of Renato's age -- I would say that the fact that he has
>chosen this particular point in time to start thinking about cataloging
>his music collection is a major clue. My guess is that he is, like the
>song says : "Thirty-nine and holding / On to anything I can"
>
>As for the 78's & 45's -- my dad has all his 78's in these ancient booklike
>holders (there's probably a name for them that I, as a junior archivist,
>should know it but I don't). Each page is an envelope for one record, and
>there are around 5 or 6 pages in each one.  I think I've seen them for sale
>in sheet music stores. I'll ask around.  I see those sixties era plastic

Sallie: Some call these things record albums.  I usually buy them for a
quarter at the thrifts, but I've too many 78s to make this system workable.
Something's got to give sooner or later.

>carrying cases like I used to carry my ? and the Mysterians and Monkees 45's
>to the school sock hops in (see? I'm gettin up there myself) around in thrift
>and junk shops.  They might not fit in with your decor, though. Unless you have
I've dozens of these plastic thingies stuffed to the gills with 45s. In fact,
when I ran out of room to put them in, I started using a large metal 4-drawer
for them, placing them standing up (or on their sides).  When this didn't work
either, I bought 20 specially made cardboard boxes -- advertised in Goldmine --
to place the rest in.  Now the boxes sit (neatly stacked) in record storage (th
ough they're uncatalogued.

And a special gold star to you for having ? Mark and the Mysterians.  "96
Tears" in on my all-time top ten list.  96 is also a palindrome, though not
nearly as intriguing as 69.  There's long been a rumor that they intended
to name the song 69 Tears but were prevented from doing so.  There's possibly
some truth to all this given that one of their songs is titled "Girl (You
Captivate Me)' but which they actually sang as "Girl (You Masturbate Me)"
Not too shabby for the legendary Tex-Mex quartet which made it big first
north of the Motor City (Saginaw I believe), and then throughout the world
in 1966.  Frank Rodriguez's keyboards in particular have inspired me to do
many crazy things.



>a lot of lava lamps and posters and beaded curtains and things.

The lamps are made right here in Big Shoulders, and have made somewhat of
a nostalgia comeback lately.  Never  had one.
>
>Oh well......happy happy birthday baby

Thanks a mil.

Renato
>
>Sallie
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