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From: dean@pico.OZ (Dean Economou)
Newsgroups: alt.society.futures
Subject: brain/mind evolution
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:14:12 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, Uni. Western Australia.
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People,
I can see one way that we can reconcile the evolution of culture and a
change in physical brain "hardware".  Not all of us are the same in our
capacity to think (I won't digress into the reasons that might be behind
this).  Let us say that in a certain population, there are as many 
different sorts of brain "hardware" as there are members of the
population.  Now also consider that it seems to takes just one person to
make an observation - to have the special insight - and every member of
the population (ignoring really dull people) will be able to make use of
that insight.  For example, I am no Newton, but I can easily apply his
thinking now that it has explained by him.

So this leaves us with the possibility that most of us rely on the
insights of others, and that those others are evolutionary exceptions
whose physical characteristics are sufficiently novel to genrate or
discover new insights.

Cheers,
Dean

(send email to: dean@qpsx.oz.au)
  
Newsgroups: alt.society.futures
From: rubio@HAN.Paramax.COM (Stuart Rubio)
Subject: Re: brain/mind evolution
Originator: rubio@hpwisf1.han.paramax.com
Organization: ^
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:16:02 GMT

In article <963@pico.OZ> dean@pico.OZ (Dean Economou) writes:
>People,
>I can see one way that we can reconcile the evolution of culture and a
>change in physical brain "hardware".  Not all of us are the same in our
>capacity to think (I won't digress into the reasons that might be behind
>this).  Let us say that in a certain population, there are as many 
>different sorts of brain "hardware" as there are members of the
>population.  

I am afraid you have a defect at this point. The hardware is not
that different. The substrate hardware is not essentially different
from person to person. Though there is variation from gender to 
gender, these are in gross path construction and not really
major changes in hardware. The pathways are the same, but they
are utilized slightly differently. The firmware with which the
underlying hardware paths are programmed are different from person 
to person. This is due to differences in experiences, from which
the pathways are programmed and memories are stored in different
patterns. 

>Now also consider that it seems to takes just one person to
>make an observation - to have the special insight - and every member of
>the population (ignoring really dull people) will be able to make use of
>that insight.  For example, I am no Newton, but I can easily apply his
>thinking now that it has explained by him.

Wrong again, on the basis that not everyone will necessarily
understand, or be interested in, the ideas produced by any
given individual. I could develop the details of FTL (Faster
Than Light) travel in every detail. That does not mean that
any other person in my own time will understand, or accept
the facts when filtered through their pre-existing prejudges,
those facts and details. Nor does it mean that I would be
inclined to necessarily share those facts with others. I point
to the fact that Newton did not share his finding for some
time after his work was complete.

The examples of this throughout history are legend. The development
of the wheel by the Astecs is a great example. Their children used
the wheel on toys with which they played for generation to generation,
yet as adults, they never developed charts to take products to
market. They used the dredge.
>
>So this leaves us with the possibility that most of us rely on the
>insights of others, and that those others are evolutionary exceptions
>whose physical characteristics are sufficiently novel to genrate or
>discover new insights.
>
The results are that most of the human race does not develop
anything new, but rather, follows the lead of the cultural
rituals laid down throughout their childhood.

Peace and long life,

Stuart

>  


Newsgroups: comp.society.cu-digest,alt.society.cu-digest
From: sludge@korova.uucp (Sludgefried)
Newsgroups: alt.society.civil-liberties
Subject: abort a fetus for jesus!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 09:10:38 CDT
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

Amerika's two favorite issues misconstrued:  abortion and the "Rodney 
King incident."

I see abortion becoming a holy war, being more of a struggle for 
stultifying traditionalism than the lives of various pink fetuses about 
to grow up to unfulfilling existences.

I see Rodney King's beating being portrayed as a racial incident, when in 
fact it is the collision of the ruling powers ("haves") and the 
dis-empowered ("have-nots").  King charged a police officer (pig:  man 
with little life who enjoys petty power plays) and got what police 
officers everywhere dish out to those who violate their sense of power.  
I honestly doubt it was his skin color as much as his stupidity - and 
then continuing to fight?  Jesus H!  I hate cops with a passion but I 
have more of a clue than Mr. King did.  He's an unwelcome hero - he was 
guilty, and he got the unfair and brutal backlash to that.  I believe 
those cops are guilty of brutality, but let's not canonize King.

Also, that's Los(t) Angeles:  Cram that many fools into that small of an 
area, give half of them horrible jobs and expensive living and see what 
happens.  Rioting, gunfire, beatings.


--
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                into the WONDERBREAD *heart* of America!"
From: "ted trost" <ted.trost@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.society.civil-liberties
Subject: broward county sheriff (was re: swat...)
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:19:00 EST
Reply-To: "ted trost" <ted.trost@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Subject: Broward County Sheriff (was Re: SWAT...)

quoted from Message-ID: <1992Aug17.035229.17253@infonode.ingr.com>

PF>trunk searches are legal without probable cause).

PF>I don't know if this is true, anyone else?

Not in *my* USA!  I was taught probable cause was needed except
for items "in plain view."

Ignore the origin.  Born, raised, and educated in the U.S.

Ted VE3TTD  ted.trost@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: alt.society.civil-liberties
From: hillnr@hamlet.uncg.edu (Norman Hill)
Subject: Re: broward county sheriff (was re: swat...)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.2545.4514@dosgate>, "ted trost" <ted.trost@canrem.com> writes:
|> Subject: Broward County Sheriff (was Re: SWAT...)
|> 
|> quoted from Message-ID: <1992Aug17.035229.17253@infonode.ingr.com>
|> 
|> PF>trunk searches are legal without probable cause).
|> 
|> PF>I don't know if this is true, anyone else?
|> 
|> Not in *my* USA!  I was taught probable cause was needed except
|> for items "in plain view."
|> 
|> Ignore the origin.  Born, raised, and educated in the U.S.
|> 
|> Ted VE3TTD  ted.trost@canrem.com

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court ruled recently (within the past year) that 
such searches ARE legal. <* Thanks, Reagan and Bush *>  One of the justices
in a dissenting opinion pointed out the absurdity of this - the example he
used was that under this ruling the police could not legally search a package
that a man is carrying down the street but as soon as he got in his car and
put it on the seat it became legal.  AGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: russ.eos
Subject: QUEERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originator: pmstuffl@c00016-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: kbr.eos
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project No Gays
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:58:51 GMT


This is a pretty GAY newsgroup, you HOMOS should know
this is going to be flamed CONSTANTLY.

				Faggot-hater,	
				     Russ
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jam8j@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (James A. Murray)
Subject: Re: Cream of sum yung guy
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:10:12 GMT

I always heard that if you wanted to be controlled by someone
just hate them.  It's nice to know that Mr Hurtz is controlled
by homosexuals at large.

Proud to be Gay,
J.Murray
Univ.of Virginia
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From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re:
Summary: best flame
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:04:56 GMT
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

> >
> >This is a pretty GAY newsgroup, you HOMOS should know
> >this is going to be flamed CONSTANTLY.
> >
> >				Faggot-hater,	
> 
> DEAR R***,
> 
> So why isn't it flamed constantly?
> 
> 				Gay Man Who Pities Close-Minded Persons,
> 				     Jim

The only thing these fuckwits want is to see their insignifuckant
little names in print, so when someone comes up with a stupid post like
the one above, just ignore it, please don't repost their name, they
just print it out and show their little friends at lunch time in the
canteen, or they wank over it in the toilets.
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From: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM (Wendy Gale)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: PowerSurge Tickets
Followup-To: poster
Date: 14 Aug 1992 20:51:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starchild



2 roundtrip airline tickets SF/Seattle
-depart SF 3:30 Friday Sept 4th
-depart Seattle 10:30 Monday Sept 7th

both tickets must be used by females

$150 each

this is the weekend of PowerSurge ( a dyke s/m conference)
i also have 1 package for the conference which i need to sell $70 (cost to me
was $80). i have talked with the appropriate people at PowerSurge and they have
assured me that transfering my registration is not a problem.

I also will consider a lower offer for the entire package.

(415)336-5948
wendy
From: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM (Wendy Gale)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: RT Tickets SF/Seattle
Date: 12 Aug 1992 17:18:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starchild


2 roundtrip airline tickets SF/Seattle
-depart SF 3:30 Friday Sept 4th
-depart Seattle 10:30 Monday Sept 7th

both tickets must be used by females

$150 each
the dates on these can be changed for $25 for up to 1 year.

this is the week of PowerSurge ( a dyke s/m conference)
i also have 1 package for the conference which i need to sell $80


(415) 336-5948
wendy
From:  (Richard Hurtz)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Cream of sum yung guy
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:51:55 GMT

I'd better say this quick before anyone sees I'm reading alt. homosexual

I  HATE  FAGGOTS
From: phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Steven Mancini)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Cream of sum yung guy
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:04:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Richard Hurtz Writes:
>I'd better say this quick before anyone sees I'm reading alt. homosexual
>I  HATE  FAGGOTS

I have only two questions:
  1) Then why are you reading alt.homosexual?
  2) Why did you feel the necessity to announce this to everyone?

    Like we care?

Patrick
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From: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM (Wendy Gale)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: RT tickets SF/SEATTLE
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Aug 1992 23:11:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starchild



2 roundtrip airline tickets SF/Seattle
-depart SF 3:30 Friday Sept 4th
-depart Seattle 10:30 Monday Sept 7th

both tickets must be used by females

$150 each

the dates on these can be changed for $25 for up to 1 year.

this is the weekend of PowerSurge ( a dyke s/m conference) 
i also have 1 package for the conference which i need to sell $70 (cost to me 
was $80). i have talked with the appropriate people at PowerSurge and they haveassured me that transfering my registration is not a problem. 
 
(415)336-5948   
wendy



Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: csjgp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jim Pierson)
Subject: Re: QUEERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:15:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.155851.13974@ncsu.edu> kbr.eos writes:
>
>This is a pretty GAY newsgroup, you HOMOS should know
>this is going to be flamed CONSTANTLY.
>
>				Faggot-hater,	
>				     Russ

DEAR Russ,

So why isn't it flamed constantly?

				Gay Man Who Pities Close-Minded Persons,
				     Jim
From: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM (Wendy Gale)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Wendy T.
Date: 13 Aug 1992 20:18:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starchild


could you have lea call me. I didn't get her # and quite know what is going on.

(415)336-5948
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly)
Subject: Morons who chew with their mouths open
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:47:53 GMT

Peeve:  Drooling imbeciles, sorry, BDI's, that chew with their mouths open.
        It makes me want to reach in their mouths and pull out their fucking
        tongue and beat them about the head and neck with it.  The worst 
        part is the smacking sound reminiscent of a cow chewing its cud,
        which is enough to make me lose my appetite immediately.

-- Mark
From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Freudian peeve
Date: 23 Aug 92 11:47:13 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <25098@castle.ed.ac.uk> tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
=>egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
=>
=>>As if it isn't enough that he fucked my mother!!
=>
=>Almost certainly a crime against humanity given the results.

Well my brother may not be perfect, but this is going a bit too far.

Tattoopeeve: On Saturday they have two performances. Apparently it's noy
just nearby residents who are cheesed off by the racket - it also keeps
awake patients in the intensive care ward of the nearby hospital. So
next time you see news reports of squaddies being blown to bits
in the streets of Armagh by an IRA bomb, or incinerated in the Iraqi desert
by an A-10 or (coming soon) perforated by Serbian shrapnel in Sarajevo,
remember, these are people who don't give a tuppeny shite about *you*, 
so save your symapthy.

Tattooantipeeve: Last night it pissed it down, the way it only can in
Scotland, so the bladder-players will have had to do the second show 
wearing wet skirts.


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-Jeremy Henderson            |  Une souris verte
 egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk	     |  Qui courrait dans l'herbe
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From: nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Packaging and stuff
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:11:12 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

>nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly) writes: 
>| cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>| 
>| 
>| >2) The age old question:  Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10, but
>| >   hot dog buns come in packages of 8?  You gotta buy 5 packages of buns
>| >   and 4 packages of hot dogs to make that come out right.
>| Up here in the frigid north, hot dogs *and* hot dog buns come in packages
>| of 12.

>So, would it be cheaper for me to buy them from you and have them shipped
>here?

I dunno...Maybe the new north american free trade deal has a provision for
weiners & buns in it.  Have to check.

-- Mark
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: Re: Mechanics and their ilk
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:32:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.014225.7955@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes: 
>| In article <1992Aug18.143528.25609@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>| >[Yer basic mechanic peeve deleted]
>| did you check the odometer? maybe they went joy riding in your hot rod...?
>My "hot rod" is an '84 station wagon that I use for commuting to/from work.
>It's a peesa junk, but it's paid for.

what? a man secure in his masulinity? a man who doesn't need a car to define
who he is? i'm sorry, a., we don't allow those in peevetown. this is *america*,
by gum! try a communist country.

peeve: dwindling communist country options. (according to ronnie, communism 
	is dead.)

-l "what happened to the vw bus with all the grateful dead stickers?" p
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From: elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Alex Elliott)
Subject: Re: Drivers from Hell
Organization: Yale University Physics Department
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:44:27 GMT

In article <24806@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
>
> [ describes yookayan driving test ]
>

Wow.  That is much more complicated than the test they gave me in
Pennsylvania for my license.  

They had a little driving range at the examination point (you never
actually go out into real traffic).  You drive into the range, showing
that you can stop at a stop sign.  You have to pull around a corner and
stop within 8 inches of the curb.  You do a 3-point turn, and then 
drive at 10 mph without braking on a weavy course between traffic cones
and finish by showing again that you can stop at a stop sign.  

That's it.  No real traffic, no emergency stops, no parallel parking.
Not exactly a difficult test.

There's also a "written" part that actually consists of standing at 
a TV screen with four buttons where you have a 20 question multiple
choice quiz.

I think this explains the general level of driving ability of the
average yooessayan driver.


Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
elliott@minerva.cs.yale.edu
From: carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Political Peeves
Date: 19 Aug 1992 07:08:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <Bt7M1v.2AF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v116kznd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Dave Archer) writes:
>Peeve:  Republicans.  

Hey!  I was told we wouldn't have to do politics on this newsgroup.

-carol "sheesh" o
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Ernie Bilko)
Subject: Car peeves (was peeve o' the day)
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: 293rd MP Co., Ft. Ord
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:36:52 GMT


In article <l92ef1INNe7k@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
[prelude having little to do with the subject deleted]
|>Since you're so insistant at prodding groggy bears, I'll fill you in.
|>I went racing over the weekend, at a track somewhat north of San
|>Francisco named Sears Point.  If you take a map of the states you
|>might have and turn it upside-down, you'll find is at the top of the
|>bay.

OK, so whatcha drive? Carnutz wanna know

|>During qualifying, a connecting rod found the crankcase a bit too
|>confining and exited through the side of the block, hence scattering
|>bits of cast iron.

Peeve:

On the way back to Ft. Ord, back around ought '67, when I was a mechanic in
the MP garage there, I heard a large noise from under the hood - at about 3
AM, yet. The thing sounded like it had a huge machine gun under the hood that
was out of control. Next morning the motor sgt. tells me to bring the thing
into the garage. We pull the head and VOILA! there's a hole in #1 piston about
the size of a nickel, right at the circumference. Seems like the BDI who sold
me the thing, a trusted employee at the folk's business and an old friend of
Dad, had rebuilt the engine and had forgotten to gap the pissin' rings - the
top ring on #1 piston seems to have collapsed and in the process caved in the
corner of the piston.

!peeve: We towed the hulk out to the mortar range and I got to fire the round
that blasted the car to teeny bits. Very satisfying. More satisfying would
have been to have the seller in the car at the time.

|>This was the second time this has happened this season, therefore, it
|>was "Again."
|>
|>The entire experience was quite peeveworthy.

Nuttin' like throwin' a rod to ruin yer day.

|>andy
|>banta@abingdon.sun.com

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: whitlock@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Reid E. Whitlock)
Subject: Re: RADIO SHACK FASCISM
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:55:33 GMT


There's now a sequal to my earlier article <whitlock.63.0@vaxb.gbus.
virginia.edu>. Returning to the same store, emboldened by several of your 
comments, I appeared to have renounced my earlier pugnaciousness, and agreed 
to give them a "name, address and last four digits of the phone number". 
This was the same clerk/order-taker as the time before.

"NAME": Joseph Bloh

so far so good

"ADDRESS" 123 First Street, Charlottesville 12345

what are you trying to prove --- you knoe that's not a Charlottesville zip 
code! Look I'm with you on this one, but I have to follow company policy. I 
have to cancel this sale.


AND SO IT GOES !!!!!  

The moral of the story is that in this case, at least, having something to 
fill in on the computer screen was NOT ENOUGH. It had to be, or have the 
semblance of being, "correct". 

Reid