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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: SOLARIS questions
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:44:10 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) wrote:
> Having just seen the great Russian Sci-Fi movie SOLARIS, I am reeling with
> awe and questions.
> 2) What is the meaning of the Black & White vs. Color segments of the
> film.  At first I thought B&W signified the TV/films, but towards the
> end some are in color.  Then I thought B&W signified dreams or imagi-
> nation.  But that doesn't always seem to hold together either.

Much of the B&W in the early part of the film is in the briefings - like
the filmed interview with the previous guy to go on the surface (the one
who saw his dead colleague's child as a watchamacallit product of Solaris).
The films-within-films later on are mostly home movies from earlier in
Kelvin's life, and have that look to them (I don't know if Tarkowsky really
used 8mm stock here or just fiddled the processing of ordinary colour
film).  Isn't the only other B&W bit that long drive that links the two
halves of the film?

Incidentally, these film-within-a-film episodes (at one point they get even
deeper nested than that) aren't in the book.  They're Tarkowsky's way of
recreating Lem's stunts with recursively embedded narratives (a general
obsession of his, but not very noticeable in this novel itself) in the
movie medium.  It works brilliantly.

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:46:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.161701.5317@mloeff01.cpchq.cpc.gmeds.com> dah@cveng121.veheng.det writes:
>Someone please post a review of The Crying Game.
>Thanks in advance.

It is basically impossible to review this movie without spoiling it...

...it begins in Ireland with the kidnapping of a British soldier
by the IRA, and what follows is captivating story-telling and
acting...               

The Crying Game reveals the humanity of "lepers"...and thus, challenges
our all too often simplistic and rigid view of the world, people, and
identity.

Gerald
From: simon@research.canon.oz.au (Simon Walmsley)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:09:35 GMT

Christopher LLoyd : One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Telly Sevalas	  : Twilight Zone (with hair too!)
Leonard Nimoy	  : Twilight Zone
De Forest Kelly	  : Some old western TV series.

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From: trish.rucker@kingsp.gwinnett.com (Trish Rucker) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEAT
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:45:00 GMT
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Reply-To: trish.rucker@kingsp.gwinnett.com (Trish Rucker) 

To: dkumasaw@oracle.uucp (Darren Kumasawa)
From: trish.rucker@ehbbs.gwinnett.com

DK>I only put my feet on the chair in front of me when the seats are uncomforta
DK>(because they don't recline, have bad cushions, have not enough leg room, et
DK>or I am sitting so close to the screen that I have to tilt my viewing angle
DK>enough to comfortably watch the movie screen.  Both of these reasons are the
DK>fault of the movie theater.

DK>I've never had any problems with this practice adversely affecting other
DK>patrons.  I am very considerate in this practice, and I know other people
DK>are as well.

My only pet peeve is one related to this ... the dreaded seat kickers!
I hate loathe despise (etc.) it when the person behind me is a seat
kicker (or tapper for that matter).

What are your moviegoing pet peeves?
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From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
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Subject: Re: Who from Poltergeist is now dead?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:42:00 GMT
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Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 


>Heather died after the filming of Poltergeist III, and before it
>was released. If you watch the credits to the end, there is a tribute to her.
>It was very sad, and there were a lot of stories at the time about how
>bad horror films were for small children. In my opinion, by they last film, she
>had begun to show she had great potential as an actress. Her role is
>not one you can get easily out of your mind.

She died of an intestinal blockage, which had been mis-diagnosed as
toxic shock syndrome.
                                                                                       
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From: sobelman@cco.caltech.edu (Steven M. Sobelman )
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Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:28:29 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:

>Sharon Stone.... fake wife of Arnie in "Total Recall"

>Coz

How about Sharon Stone as Allen Quartermaine's love interest in the Richard
Chamberlain remake of King Solomon's Mines?

Steve

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From: mcp4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Marco Claro Pineda)
Subject: Re: Yet Another Movie Title Wanted
Reply-To: mcp4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Marco Claro Pineda)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:29:48 GMT

That was Fatal Beauty.  

BTW, is there any truth to the rumour that that movie was originally supposed
to be a Cher vehicle?
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
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Subject: Re: The Abyss .. again
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:50:43
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In-reply-to: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu's message of 28 Jan 93 03:19:24 GMT


bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:

     >>So they guy's DONE IT.  Blew MY mind.

Bob> Yeh, but back to the original question :-). How many rats did
Bob> they drown to make the movie?

None, according to Ed McCreary's recent post referencing two magazine
articles that confirm the *one* rat lived.  Please, I invite you to go back
and read up on the thread.


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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Witching Hour
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:57:21 GMT
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In article <suddejw-250193111525@shuttle.msfc.nasa.gov> suddejw@shuttle.msfc.nasa.gov (John Sudderth) writes:
> Does anyone have more information on "The Witching Hour" (by Anne Rice)
> being released in June?

They're making a movie of it? That was quick. It is, unfortunately, up
there with books like Clive Barker's "The Great And Secret Show" and Steven
King's "The Stand" in the category of Books Standing An Enormous Chance Of
Being Destroyed When Filmed...

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From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Trivia quiz (along a recent thread)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:48:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.084345.10822@Csli.Stanford.EDU> I wrote:
>
>Along a recent thread in trivia quiz format:
>* What do the following movies have in common?
>	Around the World in 80 Days
>	Exodus
>	The Man with the Golden Arm
>	North by Northwest
>	Spartacus
>	West Side Story
>* Can you name more along the same line?

All right, I posted the above a couple of days ago and got
virtually no response.
Was it that hard?
Was it that uninteresting?
Or -- DOES NOBODY LIKE ME?  (sniff ;-)

So here's the second try:
The thread I mentioned was that on credit lines (from "peeves" thread);
but let's generalize it to title sequences in general.
All the above movies (admittedly, they're old) have very impressive
titles, either at the beginning, end, or both.
They are the design of a single person -- who is it?

>* BONUS: Shouldn't this subject make it to the FAQ?

Aw, forget it.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
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From: mlperkin@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mildred l perkins)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:07:59 GMT

Harris, those were great patron stories!  My favorite is the time I (as
an usher) was showing a couple into a theartre after the lights went
down.  Patrons can be really irritating when there's no light.  :)  You
walk them down to a row with a couple of open seats on the end and point
them out - but still they ask a few times, uncertain, "Where?  Here? Are
you sure?"  This particular couple was no different.  The guy keeps
saying, "Where?  Where?"  I kept replying, getting more and more
exasperated, "Right on the end.  Just go to the end of this aisle."
Finally, the guy whips out his white cane and made his way to the
seats.
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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: SLACKER (was Re: Closing credits (was: PEEVES at MOVIE)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:24:50 GMT

In article <s5d3gcn@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>
>Didn't the credits identify the characters by what they were doing in the
>film?  Like "Guy who tosses typewriter" or "Hit up for cigarettes". This is
>the way they are in the book, and I seem to remember that that's how they 
>were in the movie.  BTW, if you liked the film, you might want to check
>out the book. It has the script, little biographic snippets on all the
>actors, and a few articles about the film. Lots of pictures, too.

In a weird bit of synchronicity, I know a guy who was in Slacker
who is about to become a slacker.  He's the handicapped guy who
crutches across in the back of the last shot of the film.  He's
about to be laid off.
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Sommersby Rip Off
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:05:53 GMT
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In article <C1J4B3.8v9@unix.amherst.edu> jdliss@unix.amherst.edu (Jeff Liss) writes:
>Has anyone seen the preview or read about Sommersby, this movie with the
>same plot as the Return of Martin Guerre?  I wonder if it's an offical
>remake (as are done of the Vanishing and La Femme Nakita) just a rip off.
>
In the promos in publications I have read, they refer to it as an 
American remake of the French film "The Return of Martin Guerre." 
So, they are not attempting to conceal that the story comes from  
a previously released film (therefore, no rip off).

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

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From: bk@analytikerna.se (Bengt KLEBERG)
Subject: T. Gilliam's Fisher King include Tom Waits?
Reply-To: bk@analytikerna.se
Organization: Analytikerna AB, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:34:41 GMT


Is the crippled beggar in the wheelchair sitting in the train station
played by Tom Waits? Alternatly, does anybody know what this role
figure is called in the credits (Beggar in wheelchair, Beggar in Train
station)?

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: SOLARIS questions
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:44:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.171311.11188@news.eng.convex.com> roan@convex.com (Russell Roan) writes:

>	Anyway, is _Solaris_ available on VHS videocassette?

Yes it is.  Corinth Video has a 1989 copyright on the U.S.
version with English subtitles.  Home Film Festival (800-258-3456)
has it for rent by mail or for sale ($79.95).  You might be able
to find it at a good local video rental store.


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From: sri007@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Freddie)
Subject: Re: Movies you just GOTTA see more than once
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:34:35 GMT

>>So how about it?  Movies that are so complicated, so bizarre, that you felt
>>you needed a second (or third, or fourth...) viewing to fully comprehend?
>>For me, it's "Naked Lunch".  Just saw it the other night and it left me 
>>with the thought "I really liked it -- whatever the hell it was about!".

Naked Lunch.
	It was bizarre, and in a crude way entertaining, but I personally
	couldn't sit through it again! One particular scene I did like
	and found quite interesting was the bit where the smashed typewriter
	turned into drug users equipment. Apart from that I laughed a
	lot when I shouldn't, and wondered why on Earth anyone was mad
	enough to give Cronenburg 15 million to make it. 
>
>2001 (not only do you have to see it several times, but you also have to
>     read the book)

I didn't find 2001 very bizarre, or weird. But I did enjoy it
a lot when I was nine and saw it at a cinema in cinema scope. It
was a change after seeing all those space-cowboy films like
STAR WARS etc.



From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:03:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Video Reference Book (and Defoe ref.)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
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In article <wfMSOs600iVg42ZlRM@andrew.cmu.edu>, jt29+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Thomas) writes:
>I'm looking for a book that references films on video that will meet
>some special needs for a senior citizen friend of mine.  Ideally, it
>would meet the following perquisites:
>1.  List old movies-pre 1960 
>2.  User friendly, cross indexed by title, actor/actress, genre.
>3.  Use a fairly large print---this may be difficult, but would be really nice

Mick Martin and Marsha Porter's "Video Movie Guide" meets the first two
criteria and is also reasonably cheap and should be available in most book
stores. It claims to cover every movie available on video in the US. The print 
is very small unfortunately, but this seems to be true of all similar guides.

>While we're at it, would someone be kind enough to send me a summary of
>flicks that Willem Defoe has appeared in.

Dafoe's filmography from actors list sent via e-mail.

Cheers,

Col

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From: jtulli@eagle.wesleyan.edu
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Subject: Ann-Margret
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:31:03 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University

ooooops....yes, it is Ann-Margret, isn't it...
one of those things where i read the name and pronounce it but don't notice the
spelling and then try to recreate it later....does that ever happen to anyone
else?
apologies, and thanks for the responses!

Jude :)

ps: does anyone know what her last name is, just out of curiosity...
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From: boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Diane Keaton's _Heaven_
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:49:29 GMT
Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc.

In article <1k23v3INN9nu@morrow.stanford.edu>, FA.TJM@forsythe.stanford.edu (Thom McKean) writes:
> I would like to recommend highly a wonderful film by Diane Keaton
> called "Heaven."
> 

This is one of my favorite films.  I don't think it's for everybody, but
I find myself constantly recommending it to my close friends.  (Kinda like
_Harold and Maude_).

> The film is a documentary using archival footage spliced with
> contemporary interviews of individuals, based on the idea of heaven
> and its surrounding concepts.  Questions asked include:  "Are you
> afraid to die?  Is there sex in heaven?"  (No one famous is
> interviewed, excluding Don King).  Keaton and her crew have created
> quite a stylized atmosphere which suits the subject perfectly.
> 

Although not a flawless film, I think that the "jump cuts are okay" style 
is used pretty damn effectively.

I think that the content of the film is one of the things that really
sets it apart.  The subject matter ("DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD") is an
inherently fascinating one.  I found myself very comforted by watching
a wide range of folks, spanning the spectrum in terms of religious
belief, sitting and talking about their private thoughts regarding
this _very personal_ subject.

IMHO, it's neat to see that everybody has their own vision of the 
hereafter and that ultimately my "heaven" is no more goofy

  or absurd

  or whimsical

  or magical

 than anybody else's.

> Can anyone recommend any other films even remotely close to the feel
> of "Heaven?"  I'd like to know...
> 
> Thom

There are no other films like _Heaven_.

See you in heaven,

Terran
 
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From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Re: Actress Question
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:09:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

> >>The woman in SUMMER SCHOOL wasn't the same one from BLAME IT ON RIO. (That
> >>was Demi Moore) The girl in SUMMER SCHOOL was also in BIGTOP PEEWEE and

Demi Moore wasn't Michael Caine's lover in "Rio", she was his daughter. His
lover was Jennifer somebody, I believe; nobody who's made a splash since,
anyways.

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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Who will be famous
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:54:08 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan28.000544.17107@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, 
hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:

>   Are there any relative unknowns that you've seen recently and 
>   feel will become famous for his or her performance and
>   those that it will lead to? 

I can think of three actors that I saw this year who seem (or should IMHO)
destined for greater things:

Sadie Frost (Lucy in Bram Stoker's Dracula)
Chris O'Donell (Scent of a Woman)
Unknown Canadian who's name slips my mind (The kid in Unforgiven)

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From: jwimp@mcs.drexel.edu (Jet Wimp)
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Subject: ANSWER TO ALL THOSE MOVIE PEEVES!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:35:28 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
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    The solution adopted by some viewers to all the peeves one encounters
in movie theaters is to stay at home and watch it on videotape.  Well,
watching "it" on videotape is, for this purist, no longer watching a
movie.  Movies belong on the screen.  In another note, I compared
watching a videotaped film to eating an ice cream cone with a cold.  
     If we could just rid those moviehouses of all those messy people and
their messy and distracting human behavior.  Aha!  I recently read a
biography of Jay Gould, the financial genius and robber baron.  He loved
opera, but couldn't stand opera goers.  Solution?  He built his own opera
house, where he was the only patron.  Performances were done entirely for
his benefit.  (There is no evidence that those private viewing habits
enhanced his humanity.)
From: davist@relay.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: JFK "director's cut"
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:42:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I saw the "director's cut" version of JFK this weekend. There were four
sequences that were added to the film, and numerous smaller changes. My
impression is that the changes improved the coherence of the film. Any other
reactions?

Tad Davis
davist@a1.relay.upenn.edu
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