From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:13:02 GMT

   I'm glad to know that you, Mr. "anonymous" dcroz, finally showed guts to 
respond to my posting.

In article <34133@twics.co.jp> dcroz@twics.co.jp writes:
>--Michiaki writes:

>=}Most Japanese rather suffer from an inferiority complex towards Americans.

>     Here we go again.  Keep repeating anything, no matter how silly, and many
>people will eventually come to believe it.

   Whenever it's necessary, I'd be ready to go again and again.
You stated as if many people didn't believe it, but this is the expression 
of your ignorance.

>=}If there is a racism among Japanese against navy servicemen, I'd assume that
>=}there WAS something that converted the attitude of Japanese in Yokosuka from
>=}inferiority complex to hostility or despise.

>     Oh, *now* I see.  Japanese racism is okay because the objects thereof
>deserve it.

   No, you never saw and will never see as long as you call it "racism."
Do you call "irezumi okotowari" (No tattooed person allowed) as "racism"?

>=}Puke!  How sickening!

>     And you say that my style reminds you of R.A.?  How quaint.

  No. I said, "someone." "R.A." is your word. I wonder if you found your 
postings have anything in common with R.A.'s?

>=}How much can you tell about Japanese culture from which you segregate
>=}yourself?

>     What in the world gives you the idea that I do now or have in the past
>segregated myself from Japanese culture?

  Do you really want to know what gave me the idea, eh? Your superficial
interpretation of Japanese culture, your one-sided view of Japanese
mentality and your having an unreasonably hard time in Japan.

>  This is an unwarranted and false
>assumption.

  Prove it.

>=}If someone has a biased view based on racism, that person should not whine
>=}about someone else's racism.

>     This line of reasoning has at least two fatal flaws.  

>     Firstly, it assumes that "someone," in this case American servicemen, do
>indeed have "a biased view based on racism."  A very PC assumption, but not a
>reasoned argument.  You must either demonstrate it or abandon this defense.

  I'm afraid that you have digged a hole for yourself. YOU are the one who
ALWAYS assumes that "someone," in this case all the Japanese, do indeed have 
"a biased view based on racism," aren't you?

>     Secondly, it posits that one can *lose* a basic human right.  This seems
>an odd idea to me, and I doubt that I'd get much mileage out of saying that
>Japanese in the States should shut up about any and all racist discrimination
>they encounter because they are not perfectly free from racism themselves.

  Another assumption, eh? Your aim seems to be to convince people that not
only Japanese in Japan but also all the Japanese on this planet are
racists.

>     You're right, unfortunately, it is "nothing novel."  Neither is it a valid
>argument, and if it seems "reasonable" to you, I'd suggest you try substituting
>various other offenses for "racism" and see how it looks.

  Then, how valid is it to say, "I hate all the Japanese. I don't want to 
make a single friend out of Japanese. However, all the Japanese have to be 
friendly, supportive and hospitable to me"?

>=}By any chance, do you have access to an account at CMU? Your style reminds me
>=}of someone.
> 
>     Oh, how sad.  My first ad hominem argument in soc.culture.japan.  
>
>     Well, I guess you got me.  You're right, I'm a jerk and you're not, so
>your opinions are correct and mine not.

   In addition, yours seems to be hard to correct. Many netters who tried to
correct it appear to have already given up. Or is it just because of the
Holidays?

>  End of discussion.

   I didn't expect that whiner's guts would last long anyway.

--Michiaki