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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Bruce.
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:42:53 GMT

In article <Bu82p3.BK2@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:

>        Also, someone else posted that the Bills would be destined to go to the
>Super Bowl if they beat the '49ers by 40-7 like they beat the Rams.  Again, I
>think differently.
>        The '49ers are better, but they simply aren't such an awesome team that
>I would measure the Bills prospects by how well they play against the '49ers.
>I expect the Bills to beat the '49ers, but not by that much.
>
>Snoopy

Both the Bills and 49ers have explosive offenses.  Hard to say which
one is really better, they both posses extreme talent.
However, the one major difference between the two teams is defense.
The Bills defense stinks!  And the Niners do have defense!  I would
think that the Bills would be spending more time playing keep up if
anything!  I see the 49ers winning, but not by much!

                                                    Tony
                                                 GO 49ERS!!!
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Saints CLOCK Da Bears
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:16:39 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Saints are ripping the Bears a new asshole in the Superdome. As a Bears fan, I
have a few comments about why the Bears lost a game they damn well should have
won:
 
OFFENSE
-------
 
Neal Anderson. He washed up as a tailback. Face it. His speed is for shit and
has no real moves. His sweeps against the Lions were not that big of a deal. On
turf, his glaring lack of speed AND moves makes him look like a joke. Make him
the backup fullback. Give Lewis the chance he deserves. Many drives in the
first half stalled because the Bears would give to Neal for no gain, in
situations where Lewis would have bounced to the outside for some yards. The
Bears win by ball control. They NEED Lewis in there.
 
DEFENSE
-------
 
Jesus Christ, somebody get a clue. Zorich can't play in the NFL. Every time
he's in there, he gets blown off the line at least 2 yards. On passing
situations, one offensive lineman holds him at bay with one hand. It's silly,
really, given the talent they have. Go with the Armstrong, Mongo, Fridge,
Spellman line and put Roper and Dent down at the ends on 3rd down.
 
Play Ron Cox. Morrissey is smart, but Cox adds the blitz dimension in a big
way. He's faster and can shed blocks much easier. They need to threaten the
Blitz from all 3 LB spots.
 
I don't blame the secondary for too much, except that joke of a play with
Markus Paul. That was just bullshit, should have been a pic. One of those
things you don't get down on a DB for. However, Woolford seems lost at times,
like he forgot the coverage. Carrier needs to stop biting so much on the run.
He's RIGHT up there on run plays, and play action has caught him in both the
first two games. With a better DL, this should stop. The Fridge looks ready to
play. He sheds any thought of a cutback by running backs. 
 
SPECIAL TEAMS
-------------
 
Played pretty well, except for Butler's missed kick that would have made it
9-7. I don't know what his damage is, but he's a shadow of his former self.
Gardocki kicks off now, so he has nothing to whine about.
 
 
Well, the 4th quarter was a slaughter. Pass protection broke down, with
Swilling and Jackson just shooting for Harbaugh every play. Why not? When the
Bears get down, they don't have a RB to keep the draw alive.
 
Final Score 28-6. Wasn't a blowout until the end. Give the Saints credit,
Hebert played tough. Hilliard showed why Dunbar will spend more time on the
sideline. Saavy player. Lions beat the Vikes soundly, so the NFC central is a
tossup, with everyone at 1-1 except the lowly Packers at 0-2. Actually, I think
the Bucs are 2-0. It'll be a race btwn the Lions and the Bears. 
 
Hey, how about that Neon Dieon? 100 yrd return!
 
 
---------------------------------///
Daniel Drumm                    ///
ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us   \\\///
-----------------------------\XX/
 
 
P.S.  I'll take the Bucs seriously when they beat the Lions or Bears.
 
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From: greg@puck.webo.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: Jets win moral victory...
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:12:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: greg@puck.webo.dg.com
Organization: NSDD-X.500, Data General Corp.

In article <1992Sep6.203935.13752@wuecl.wustl.edu>, csm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher Scott Macri) writes:
|> Sure they didn't get the victory, and it would be a lie if I said
|> "I couldn't be more pleased with their performance".All things considered,  
|> the Jets perfomed pretty damn well...
|> 
|> Nagles performance was spectacular for a first start. He later
|> claimed that his performance was not "veteran-like".Heh, I never
|> saw O-Brien so poised in the pocket ! Nagle can run too. His passes
|> for the most part, were smart and on the money. No lie, I couldnt
|> be more pleased with Nagle..
|> 
|> Lets get that replay rule back and sink Leahy into the fountain of youth 
|> and I think we got a ball club here!!
|> 
|> Put out the fire and call in the dogs, we're going to Pittsburgh!
|> GO JETS!
|> C.M.
|> 
I agree, but I am getting sick of these, should've won victories,
pretty soon, Jet fans like ourselves are going to need a padded
cell. They drive me crazy sometimes. But I was very impressed with
Nage, he looked real sharp, and what a rifle!! Thier's no going
back as far as QB is concerned, too bad Johnny Mitchell is going
to be out for a while, would like to have seen him  a little more,

Greg
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS
From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe Montana and other QB's
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:12:26 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <tokuno.715640822@milton> tokuno@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Tokuno) writes:
>ptripp@diana.cair.du.edu (Phil Tripp) writes:
>
>
>>Are all of you who want Joe to quit while he's "ahead" too
>>young to remember George Blanda?
>
>
>	I don't fall in the category of those who want to Joe to
>quit--it's very premature to think he is finished, but the Blanda
>comparison won't work.  Ole George spent all of his later years as the
>place-kicker for the Raiders and he only had to quarterback the team once
>in a while.  I never remember him taking a lot of tough hits once he was
>past 40.

Seems like it is illegal to play "smear the queer" with the place-kicker.
I guess he's live bait on a kick-off though.
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Re: Call for Football Jokes...
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 01:10:35 GMT

L.A. Rams

--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seattle the worst team in the NFL?
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:39:44 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep7.013241.29072@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>I read this in a Dayton, OH paper this morning.  "Is Seattle the worst
>team in the NFL, or what?"

From what I saw yesterday, it looks like the LA Lambs might give seattle
some serious competition for this.......

-rob
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles Report
Keywords: Eagles 31 Cards 17
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:26:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep14.195049.27877@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>spoiled.  The secondary struggled, but no way the LBs get a C with the
>way Seth Joyner played.  He was everywhere!
>

I already told Joe this in e-mail, but I'll second the comment about Seth
Joyner. Until last night, I always watched Reggie White(the best) and 
Jerome Brown(the Cards should have picked him) when I watched the Eagles.
Last night, I couldn't help but notice everytime it looked like a Card
back was finally going to break through and get some rushing yardage, there
was Joyner to make the tackle. In passing downs, Joyner alternated between
harassing Chandler, and blanketing the middle of the field. This guy is
damn good, I used to think Buddy was just talking crap when he raved about
Seth, but last night changed that, he dominated the game defensively
even more than White.




Russ Smith
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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Re: NFL TEAM STAT PROJECT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:22:30 GMT

In article <BILLMS.92Sep11145154@z.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
|> In article <BuFFCJ.46J@acsu.buffalo.edu> v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!) writes:
|> 
|> 	   I could do the stats for every team, especially since every stat that
|>    you mentioned is listed in the USA Today monday and tuesday section.  So, why
|>    waste time posting up the results, when people could just go out and buy a
|>    newspaper.
|> 
|> Because you feed them into a database and crunch out what ever stats you
|> think you need to prove your point.  And you don't have to keep the USAT for
|> every week of the season to get composite stats.  And with a distributed load
|> you don't have to do any work, or at most will type in the stats for *one*
|> team.  And this way we can log the stats to look them up next season, and the
|> season after that.  And do all sorts of cool performance  projectsions. 
|> 
|> Databases filled with meaningful statistics can be wonderful things.
|>

      One thing you might want to keep in mind is that official stats are
   released until late Tues or Wed.  The stats that come out on Monday or
   Tuesday are subject to change.  Example:  after the league reviewed
   Monday night's game, Emmitt Smith was given an extra yard + an extra
   carry.  This little statistic didn't make to the papers until Thursday.
   A lot of newspapers publish stats from one of the teams PR
   dept.,  the "unofficial" stats from the NFL, or one's they kept them-
   selves in their Mon/Tues editions.

      It would be nice to have access to this data...
 
|> Bill
|> --
|> -------------------------------
|> 	Bill Mangione-Smith
|> 	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Smith is NOT Sanders
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:02:50 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Sep9.232616.14909@ntmtv> bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley) writes:
>I'm tired of those people who put any running back up against
>Sorry dude.  I know how much you don't like what I'm saying,
>but the truth hurts sometimes, dammit.
                                                                         
Have a clue.  Here, take two, they're small.
                                                                         
Daniel Welch
----                                                                         
"You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think."

   -- Dorothy Parker, asked to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence.
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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: GIANTS ........ ARRRRRGGGGHHH !!
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:20:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.035201.227@PacBell.COM>,
jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.012641.1863@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>>John P. Gloria (jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM) wrote:
>>> In article <6SEP199219273412@zeus.tamu.edu> mcs4041@zeus.tamu.edu (SHARAT SHEKHAR) writes:

>>> >    is it time to fire Handley or what ??!!

>>> >    How the fuck could a team that won a superbowl 2 seasons ago (and that
>>> >goal line defense that stuffed the niners at the 1 yd line was a reminder) end
>>> >up in this sort of fucking mess .............

>>> >    FUCK EVERYTHING ... sorry but i'm, in a nasty mood

>>> >    and pardon the f---ing language.

>>> It happens to all of them at one time or another.  There was
>>> some hard hitting going on both sides and the defense on the
>>> Niner's, set the tone.  With four possible offensive threats on
>>> the Niner's side, they could have beat just about any team
>>> today.
>>> --
>>>         ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com --------
>>>              "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
>>>             is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain

>>Don't forget how badly the giants play against the 9ers. The last few
>>encounters have been won by the leg of Matt Bahr. For some reason, The
>>giants never do that well against the 9ers (i though that Haley had
>>something to do with it, but throw that out the window now).

>I thought the Giant's always played the Niner's pretty good.  Prior
>last Sunday's game, the scores had been rather close.

I totally agree with you John that the Giants always play the Niners
good.  I would say that both teams have been thorns in each others
sides for the past ten years.
Up until this last game, the past 5 meetings between the two teams
resulted in those games being decided by a total of 21 points.  I
would say that that is pretty darn close!  Although wasn't it in
1986 when the two teams met in the playoffs, and the Giants blew the
Niners off the field with a score of something like 47-3??

                                                      Tony
                                                   GO 49ERS!!!
From: mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Two Great Plays (was Re: Cowboys 23, Redskins 10)
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:06:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <11SEP199200560616@zeus.tamu.edu> tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER) writes:
>In article <BuDrHw.2u7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan) writes...
>>By the way, the instant replay CONCLUSIVELY demonstrated that the ball
>>WAS NOT INTERCEPTED by Darrell Green (obviously because DAN DIERDORF said so).
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>
>It was Martin Mayhew who did not intercept the ball.

No, it was I who did not intercept the ball.


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From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 1992 NFL Predictions
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:30:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <6SEP199203222038@venus.tamu.edu>, clb2515@venus.tamu.edu (BRAUN, CHR
ISTOPHER L) writes:
>These are the way things will likely end up this season as I see it.
>
>AFC East                       NFC East
>1. Jets                       1. Philadelphia
>2. Miami                      2. Washington
>3. New England                3. Giants
>4. Buffalo                    4. Dallas
>5. Indianapolis                5. Phoenix
>
>AFC Central                    NFC Central
>1. Houston                     1. Minnesota
>2. Cleveland                   2. Chicago
>3. Cincinnati                  3. Detroit
>4. Pittsburgh                  4. Green Bay

Pittsburgh, 4th. Not today, butterball!!









                             5. Tampa Bay
>AFC West
>1. Kansas City                 NFC West
>2. Denver                      1. San Francisco
>3. Raiders                     2. Atlanta
>4. San Diego                   3. New Orleans
>5. Seattle                     4. Rams
>
>Playoffs:
>Cleveland at Jets              New Orleans at Minnesota
>Denver at Miami                Atlanta at Washington
>
>Jets at Kansas City            Minnesota at San Francisco
>Denver at Houston              Washington at Philadelphia
>
>Kansas City at Houston         Minnesota at Philadelphia
>
>Super Bowl XXVII:
>Houston over Philadelphia           (I'll guess 26-23 OT)
>                                              - gotcha Fo!
>
>Kindly submitted by Christopher Lee Braun, football genius.
>"Don't make me trounce you."
>
>"Bill Walsh is the greatest man who ever lived.  I want him to bear my
> children."   A&M 10, Stanford 7- August 26, 1992.
>
-- 

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From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:28:41 GMT
Subject: Re: TNT Announcers / Bronco Comments
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

No, Jay sucks...not the Raiders.  With a good QB we would have kicked butt.
Jay gave you clowns the ball 4 times and all you got was 7 points out of it.
The Raider 'D' is just as good as yours...
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: John Madden
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:15:37 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

John Madden is actually a good comentator, in my opinion.  He, having been
a former coach (and still in control of his wits ... unlike "the Genius")
knows the game really well and has provided great insight for me. However,
I still he looks like John Candy.

satish nair
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dallas Noise level !!!
Date: 10 Sep 1992 18:44:15 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute

I have to say hats off to the Texas Stadium crowd for making so much
noise. If this trend continues most teams won't look forward to comming
to TS. Did someone pass out a flyer or something to the fans ????
I've been a Dallas fan for 25 years and I don't ever remember a crowd
so fired up from the opening gun.

We got the hard one over with, see ya in RFK deadskins......
NEXT !

Go Cowboys !!!



From: keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:21:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Who's Gonna Win?
Organization: work
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>/ hpdmd48:rec.sport.football.pro / S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU /  3:34 pm  Sep  4, 1992 /
> 
> Hello All you Football Fans,
> 
>     I just got into a pool and need some help on this weeks games.  If you
>have a knack for picking winners or just want to give me some suggestions,
>fill out this week 1 schedule.
>                              Thanks,
>                               Murf


	try these....




> x for winner                    x for winner
     x  cincinnati     at              seattle
        cleveland      at          x   indianapolis
        detroit        at          x   chicago
     x  kc             at              san diego
        la rams        at          x   buffalo
     x  minnesota      at              green bay
        new england    at              miami
        new orleans    at          x   philadelphia
        new york jets  at          x   atlanta
        phoenix        at          x   tampa
     x  pittsburgh     at              houston
     x  s.f            at              ny giants
        la raiders     at          x   denver
        washington     at          x   dallas
 
 
 
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From: mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer E-mail?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:28:26 GMT
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

>Is there an E-mail newsletter for Packer fans?  If there are any, please E-mail
>the address to me or post it here.

Me too, please.

David Mudge
Defence Science and Technology Organisation,
Adelaide, Australia.
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: DUMP TRUMP(y)
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

He is- Without Question- the WORST color man in sports!!!!!!!

I hate Dierdork - but TRUMP - makes Dierdork look like a pro!!!!!!!

I HATE HIM!!!!!!!
I HATE HIM!!!!!!!
I HATE HIM!!!!!!!

Somebody get to him quick- before I end up in jail, or an asylum!!!

God- He makes Walsh a guy you'd like to be stuck on an island with!!!
KEEP IT CLEAN, PLEASE.

Go back to Cincinnati please.
From: jeff@neuron.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Why Oiler holdouts remain
Date: 6 Sep 1992 06:01:26 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University

While other teams experience lengthy holdout situations, Oiler players
who holdout tend to stay out longer with less apparent progress.  The
pattern is consistent enough to cause one to wonder what is behind it.

IMHO, it must be one or both of the following:
     i) Something causes Oiler players to make more unreasonable demands,
and yield less in negotiations than players who holdout on other teams.
    ii) The Oilers are simply unwilling to pay players their fair market
value as compared to other teams.

Since it is unlikely that Oiler players would be inherently greedier
than those on other teams, it seems to indicate exceptionally poor
player, management relations in either/both cases.  Does anyone who
reads the relevant articles in the Houston papers have any insights?
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas       
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