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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Cagers' fault in 80% of cage-bike accidents
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:55:51 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1dolslINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 8sL@news.iastate.edu, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>>
>>I agree completely with your analysis of the content of the safetycrats'
>>arguments, but there still exists the question of why are they doing it?
>
>Dick Floyd's largest PAC contributors were the tobbacco and insurance
>industries.  Somewhere around 80% of cage-bike accidents are the
>cager's fault.  That means insurance companies pay a lot of $$ in
>claims to motorcyclists.  Eliminate (or reduce the number of)
>motorcycles on the road, and they pay out less $$.  It's a little thing
>known in the business world as the "bottom line."  It is just plain
>good business to reduce the number of motorcycles on the road.  Helmet
>laws have been proven to do that, so the insurance industry lobbies
>heavily for them.
>
>>The reason that they single out
>>motorcyclists is that they have the IMAGE of non-helmeted, noisy, lawbreaking,
>>unsafe riders in their minds.
>
>Nit:  that is the image in the mind of the general public, which allows
>the safetycrats to foist such laws upon us.  The 'crats themselves know
>better.

I've got an idea (oops, look out!) How about this: since probably all
states in the US now have mandatory liability insurance requirements,
wouldn't it be nice if all insurance companies required cage drivers who
are not also motorcyclists to take (and pass) a course in motorcycle
awareness before they will sell them the liability insurance. The insurance
companies themselves could teach the classes and the tuition could be set so
that it more than pays for the costs of providing the classes and a portion
goes to help offset claims paid. Naaaaa, they'd just keep all the extra dough,
use it to pad the salaries of all the lard-asses sitting behind desks in their
corporate offices and claim they're still losing money and it's all because of
them damned motorcycles.
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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From: tsumner@acorn.co.uk (Tony Sumner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BSA twins
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:17:53 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <61788@mimsy.umd.edu> leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:

>At the risk of setting a precident, I have a motorcycle-related question... A bit of confusion here, I think. Matchless never fitted BSA motors
as standard.
The (BSA) A65/A50 unit twins were introduced about 1963. They
do vibrate. The problem with the mains is that the timing side one
is a plain bush, with a drilling through which oil is fed to supply
the big ends. When the bush wears, less oil reaches the big ends....
The conversion is offered by SRM (in penarth, south wales, UK I think).
This gives you a roller bearing instead of the bush, and oil fed into
the end of the crank.

What Matchless did do was to switch to using norton twin motors at about
this time. They used the atlas twin (a stretched dominator and precursor
to the commando). This is also a notorious shaker.
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From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Cops Suck!  Cops Suck!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:40:52 GMT

In article <1dr619INN59s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>That's basically it.  Cops Suck!
>Goodfornothing muthereffing sonofawhores!

Maybe if you didn't do anything to attract their attention you wouldn't have
this attitude.

They are only doing their jobs, which includes enforcing stupid laws that WE
allowed our elected representatives to enact.

In most countries, the police are accorded the respect that they deserve, on 
the level of military officers or firemen.  Here, we have a confrontational
attitude due entirely (imnsho) to traffic laws and the attitude of US drivers
that driving is a right that should not be regulated. (Not MY fault, officer!)

CP Tomes

Slow down and keep your head up, and you will see more and hit less.

Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38516 ba.motorcycles:743
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: East Bay Salvage (Was: Re: Honda 650 head problems)
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:20:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailwood.asd.sgi.com

ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) says:
> 
> Not true for Yamaha.  I've used the parts fiche for my RZ500 to dig out
> part numbers for 'common' Yamaha parts from other bikes that'll

That's because the RZ500 is `obsolete', so to speak, and all of the
part numbers have been converted to the common ones. It's the brand
new bikes that they're guilty on.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Dave's First Crash ( Re: New Dance
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:30:31 GMT

Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@east.sun.com) wrote:
: In article 16110231@hpsad.sad.hp.com, frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
: >
: >I saw some TV show that talks about new techno-stuff.  They showed inflatable
: >barriers made for lining the edges of tracks for motorcycle racing.  
: 
: >I hope this idea catches on.
: 
: It already has.  They've been lining the gutters of bowling lanes for
: years.
: 
: ---
: Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
:   Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
: DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
:  (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Can't they use them instead of kerb stones on normal streets?  It would make 
life much more fun if it didn't hurt so much when^H^H^H^Hif you came a cropper
onto an inflated bag (no double entendres here, matey).


Nick (the Bouncing Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Rubber-Bag Catalogue


M'Lud.
From: bobby@dc.dk (Bobby Billingsley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Please respond (I suspect something is wrong!!!)
Keywords: hmmm.
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:23:12 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S

Hi....

Sorry for any annoyance, but I'm stuck!

I've been posting to this group since this summer, and it would
seem that these postings don't get outside Denmark.

Would a few of you please respond (news|mail) to this article please?
-- 
:   Bobby Billingsley                   : Remember to love while you dare to   :
:   Datacentralen, Denmark              : remember to live while you do so     :
:   Phone: +45 4371-8122 Ext. 3337      :........................-.Piet.Hein...:
:   E-mail: bobby@dc.dk                 : DoD# 80884 : Ride=Yamaha XJ600, 1986 :
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Keywords: this is not bait
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:48:36 GMT

karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund) writes:

>There is no such thing as too much power.

Well, maybe... I remember in my youth, an aquaintence had a '57 Bel
Air. Being the young and foolish sort, he located the requisite power
train. (455, Muncie rock-crusher 4-speed, 4:11 posi) and performed the
transplant... Said 455 had no business on the street. This beastie
really breathed fire, and was far better suited to the drag strip.
Knowing that traction was going to be a problem, our hero located a
straight axle from a rusting pickup (also early '50s vintage) a trick
set of ladder bars, and some monsterous 50 series tires. Just for good
measure, two bags of sand were strategically placed in the trunk. The
car was driven in a basically sedate manner (as sedate as one can
drive such a beast) for a couple of weeks. One fateful Friday evening,
a bunch of us headed for the "gut" (strip, boulevard, etc. whatever you
want to call it... you know what I mean) to have fun and troll for
chicks. (Come to think of it, never did score there...) As the night
wore on, the '57 was involved in a number of speed contests, and did
reasonably well for itself. Then he lines up with a Torino with a 429
in it. The light goes green the revs come up, clutches get dropped,
there's lots of noise, and the Torino blasts away from the
intersection, leaving our hero setting there. The '57 just didn't look
right at all. Closer inspection revealed the the frame on both sides,
just ahead of the rear axles was sheared and imbedded in the roadway.
Maybe this was an example of too much horsepower for the application.

I am reminded of this every time Beth looks at me and asks if I think
that she can get a V-Max motor in her exciter frame... For me,
Pretzels come to mind. =8{O

>A motorcycle is never dangerous. If something is dangerous, it's the person
>who rides the machine.

Ayep, they're perfectly safe when sitting in the garage or a museum...


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'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
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                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:10:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Nov10.171016.12968@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>finish- now it does not matter to me that much. If Harley
>came out with a 1200cc low rider type bike for under 7k
>I'd buy one in a heart beat but there aint no way I would
>ever spend 14k on two wheels (man thats the same price as
>an S10 loaded pickup truck for petes sake). 
>|> 

I wish Harley would  put the 1200 5speed Sportster motor in a low rider style
frame. I love my '91 XLH-1200 but wish the seat was a little lower. I also wish
it had a much bigger gas tank (and not a peanut style tank either). They could
easily put together such a Sportster-based scaled down low-rider and it would
probably sell extremely well but I doubt if it'll ever happen since they sell
all the Sportsters they can make now. I was at a HD dealer last Saturday and
they told me that the entire '93 Sportster production run is already pre-sold
out and they're taking orders for '94 XLH's. They had a really nice '79 FXE for
about $8k and offered me $7k trade in for my '91 XLH-1200.
The offer was tempting but I think I'll keep my Sportster since it's my first
real bike and I've grown very attached to it (besides it'll easily outrun and
outhandle the stock '79 FXE (1200 cc shovelhead)). I'll just put an aftermarket
fat gas tank on it with the speedo and tach moved down to the tank console and
the heck with all the negative comments it'll get from big twin owners.

Ob14KforS10???> I got a brand new loaded FULL SIZE '92 GMC Sierra extended cab
	        short bed pickup for $14k! Damn nice truck.
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: K75 or K100 (why 100?)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:14:02 GMT

bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:

>I'm considering one of the following for my new spring bike:
>	FJ1200
>	K75s
>	R100RS

>I'd be using the bike for 75% inner city commuting, 25%
>sport touring with a passenger and luggage. Would the k100
>offer significantly easier cruising or passing ability with
>passenger and luggage?

I'm quite happy with my FJ1200. The rubber mounted engine on the '91 and
new bikes is a lot smoother than the K100 or R-bikes (I haven't ridden a
K75), and the power is _very_ nice indeed. A full set of Krauser hard
luggage will run about $900-1000, which is a big bite, but still costs
less than the BMW and its "free" luggage. Shout if you want about 200K
of net.wisdom on the FJ.

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Helmet For Sale
Keywords: helmet for sale rf-200
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:46:16 GMT

For Sale:

	Shoei RF-200
	 Black
	 Size Medium
	 Perfect Condition, w/box
	 $100/bo

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%          sysop@elan.glassboro.edu       91 ZR750            %
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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:07:31 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <s6pmpvs@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:


>In article <daved.721341979@convex.convex.com>, daved@convex.com writes:
>|1) Why should anyone at your work place need to know your sexual 
>|   orientation? Sex should be left at home. There is already to
>|   much sexual harrassment and discrimination at work. Let's all strive
>|   for an assexual workplace.

>So you'll be taking down that photograph of your SO, right?  If
>you have a wedding ring, you'll be leaving it at home, right?
>When you talk about your weekend over coffee on Monday morning,
>you won't be mentioning the name of the person you went to Tahoe
>with, lest you reveal your sexuality.  And you'll be using gender-
>neutral pronouns, too.

Basically yes, but I have adopted this behavior more to come to terms
with sexual harrassment then any other reason. BTW gay people can wear
wedding rings, if they consider themselves married to each other, not everyone
has sex with a person when they go away for a weekend together, I didn't have
a picture of my SO in my office for many years.

>After all, if those gay people can't mention those things, for
>the sake of an "assexual [sic] workplace", neither can you.

Work is a political environment where people can compete for security
and compensation, Just like riding your bike take all the risks that 
you think you can handle.

Dave
DoD 1085
From: tanner@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:08:02 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA


>>And whether pigs have 'Wings."

I prefer "And whether Hogs or 'Wings".

> 	I used to know the whole poem.  Anyone know what title I can
> look for to refresh my memory?

"The Walrus and the Carpenter" from _Through the Looking-Glass_ by the
Rev. C. L. DoDgson

-Bruce
-- 
Bruce Tanner        (310) 860-2451 x 596    Tanner@Cerritos.EDU
Cerritos College    Norwalk, CA             DoD #0161  NOMAD #007
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
	<1992Nov6.185927.3763@rtsg.mot.com>
	<1992Nov9.185543.12008@rd.hydro.on.ca> <marcl.721426972@os-d>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:29:39

"marcl" == H. Marc Lewis <marcl@os-d.isc-br.com> writes:

somebody>My hat goes off to BMW, who builds the option of lockable storage
somebody>into everything they make.

marcl> For a (steep) price!  The K1100RS will reportedly cost more

Not that steep.  ~$500 for bags, brackets, and installation on my
R100R.  How much are the FJ owners paying for Krauser bags these days?


>You can't put hard bags on an FJ, a TDM or a ZX-11, or on a GTS!

marcl> Not true.  The GTS1000A was designed for the European market,
marcl> where I've heard there is already one luggage manufacturer
marcl> who's announced they will offer aftermarket hard bags for the
marcl> GTS1000A.

I have a swedish motorcycling catalog, and the list of bikes that
Krauser supports is truly amazing.  One can get Krausers for the
NTV-650, for cryin' out loud...

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                     '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU
                                "HotHead Rules!"
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From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:34:47 GMT

Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization
Keywords: 


>Besides, except for civil service jobs there's no law
                                                ^^^^^^
>against firing people for non-job-related reasons

Oregon Labor Law requires job related cause.
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Biker's BBS
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:53:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov12.065349.21638
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Distribution: na
Organization: Columbia University


	What's the deal with this BBS? I have heard a few things about it
	and there's mention of it (with postings of insurance prices) in the
	December Cycle World. I would try it, but the number listed in the
	Cycle World (414-365-0304) is disconnected (couldn't get the modem to
	fire it up, so I called live and got the recording).

	Any info?

-------
"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:08:33 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Keith Harris) writes:

>Let's not be extreme.  Do you really thing that sexual preference is a
>justifiable reason for SPECIAL PRIVILEGES?  Should a gay or lesbian be
>given special compensation in housing, jobs, and going to the head of the
>checkout line at Safeway?  I think not.  This amendment only states that
>these things should not happen.  It is NOT anti-gay legislation.  I have
>no problem with a persons sexual preference, but I don't believe they
>should get special treatment because of it.  Just as a heterosexual should
>not get any special treatment over a gay individual.  The point is, and
>this is how I believe the voters of the great state of Colorado viewed it,
>NO BODY should get special treatment due to their beliefs, status, race,
>religion, or anything else.  I beleive the voters were saying that we are
>ALL equal.  I am sure that some anti-gay factions promoted the legislation
>in their strange homophobic ways, but that doesn't mean the state endorses 
>that position.  

Keith, are you really that naive?  You know what the "special 
priviledges" are?  They're laws that say you can't discriminate
against them.  That all.

Because there isn't a law that says that you can't discriminate against
against straights, a law that says you can't discriminate against
gays is "special treatment".

>So I suggest that you chill out a bit and continue to make plans to travel
>through Colorado.  It is too beautiful a state to pass up because of your
>own prejudices.  And if you do have homosexual preferences, I don't think
>you need to be concerned about being drawn and quartered because of it.  If
>not, the gay and lesbian communities are lucky to have a heterosexual as
>passionate towards their cause as you.

This is a treat.  The original poster is being accused of being
prejudiced because he doesn't want to give money to a state
which wants to discriminate against gays.

The poster's sexuality is not the issue.  If there were state governments
that reserved the right to discriminate against blacks, I wouldn't want
to go there.  If there was a state government that reserved the right to
discriminate against women, I wouldn't want to go there.  And I don't
want to go to Colorado until this shit stops.

I wish I had the money to plan a trip to Colorado just so's I
could cancel it.

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Space Oddity
Date: 11 Nov 1992 22:48:09 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

Anybody out there ever own a Suzuki RE-5?  How are they?  Are parts
available?


What are good bikes for tall people?  My lover is about 6'3" or so
and he occasionally talks about getting a bike.  Personally, I
think he should get a Buell RSS1200 or a Harley Springer and let me
ride it all the time, but that probably won't happen as price is
a consideration. :)


I just saw on a television show called "Beyond 2000" that some engineers
at Mazda have built a car that fits into a suitcase.  A large suitcase,
but still a suitcase.  The guy that uses it rides the train into
the city and then unfolds the suitcase.  It opens up flat and the single
front wheel goes out through the bottom of the case.  Two wheels plug
onto axles near the back and tiny little handlebars fold upward.  It has
a twistgrip throttle and hand-level brakes.  With an 80cc alcohol fueled
engine it has a top speed of about 30 - 35 kph.  Vehicle weight is about
30kg.  The suitcase has small suitcase-wheels for rolling it onto the train
or into your office.  It was a seriously cool little toy.  The showed the
reporter buzzing around traffic, so it must be street-legal.  Wheee.. :)
(I have this really weird disfunction - I really get a kick out of
absurdly small cars.  BMW Isetta?  Honda 600?  Japanese microcars?
Sign me up.)


I am not an electrowhiz.  People talk about BMW R-bikes not reaching
the charge/drain breakeven point until XXXX RPM.  Is it possible to
rig up a simple light that will turn on when the battery is draining
instead of charging?


Anybody carry a laptop computer on their bike for any length of time?
I'm worried about vibration.


-- 
-
-John H. Osborn                     - Boycott Colorado
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu               - Enforced discrimination MUST NOT STAND
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar     - Queer, Proud, and Angry
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