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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: ORCA SRC filetype conversion (+oper)
From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:33:48 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <C0Hynu.Ko8@CAM.ORG> vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
>jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
>
>>chtyp -lexec or chtyp -t SRC -a \$0006 will do the trick for you...
>         ~~~~
>         I can't use -lexec. Maybe I have an old chtyp or something, but I
>         checked the source and exec isn't in the language table. I'm stuck
>         using the second form. Is there a newer version?

Yes, there is a newer version that handles language stamps.  Unfortunately,
there is no real way to tell what the newer version is without trying to
see if -l works.  Which brings up a major pet peeve of mine:

I've been going through the list of applications that work under GNO so
I can A) compile a list for the FAQ and B) so I can keep an up-to-date
list of what programs GNO has.

Unfortunately, only 16 of 81(!) utilities that I have checked so far have
any sort of version printout.  Thus, I also have to stick the date of the
latest revision in this file, which is a pain and not as accurate.

So please, folks, when you port/write a utility, include a -V flag!  That
way people can easily find out what version they have, and things will be
much nicer, etc etc.  It also means when you give out source and let someone
compile it themselves the version will still be identifable as the latest
(which you can't say about the check-by-date version).

And, hopefully a lot of the older stuff (some of it ported before GNO) can
be updated to include a -V flag, as well as be made restartable if possible.

I'll post my list in a few days, we'll see what happens...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: damin@habermann.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: GNO Trashed my Hard Drive! 
Organization: Cleveland State University, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:23:50 GMT


	Can any of you GNO guru's explain why this simple mistake caused
GNO to trash my Hard Drive btimap???

tc &

I KNOW that you shouldn't background Telcom and still try to use the
shell, but it was an honest and simple mistake. Now I have lost
EVRYTHING on the 85 Megger including chunks of the partition map!

Is there some way to prevent this from happening in the future? And why
WOULD it do this?

SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT! Welp..I guess it's time to re-install all that
software I was planning on...
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: ORCA SRC filetype conversion.
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:35:00 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

mvats@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mudit P Vats) writes:

>Ok, this is the situation : I am using MicroEmacs to create a C program. NOW,
>when I go to compile it, I get the error 'LANGUAGE NOT AVAILABLE'. SO,  I 
>changed the filetype of the program from TXT to SRC using an NDA that I have.
>There after that it compiled allright.

It would probably be a lot easier if you just used chmod to change the
filetype...

>My question is : Is there anyway one can set the default filetype for creating
>and saving files to filetype SRC ??? it is a real pain to change the filetype.

No.

It's not that hard anyway. You only have to do it once...

I think you can use Soenke Brehns's (Sorry if I got the spelling wrong) cc   
utility which doesn't care what the filetype is as long as it ends with .c or
.cc.
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Error $1101
Date: 10 Jan 93 08:13:21 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie) writes:

>Hey guys, all of a sudden gno doesnt work for me.  I try to run
>kern from the finder, and get error $1101. I try to run it from
>orca and it gets to the "Kernel 1.0" or  something screen and crashes
>into gsbug. What is error $1101?

  A Loader error "segment not found".  Sounds like perhaps the shell
executable got corrupted.  Reinstall gsh from floppy and see what 
happens. 
  Another possibility is that you installed a new add-on that is
incompatible with GNO and is causing problems.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Getopt lib not restartable?
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:38:07 GMT

In article <1icoqoINNd02@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
>I've been trying to make mkdir restartable, but am having problems.  During
>the second execution getopt returns EOF (-1) when first called, when it
>should be returning an option.  I've checked all my code, and there isn't
>anything I'm not initializing at run time.  So, it seems that there is 
>something in the getopt lib that prevents it from being restartable...

	Seems like you just answered your other question about making
programs restartable... :)

	I supposed it wouldn't be hard to make a program restartable,
but for me it's a question of time.  I supposed if a program is
written with the fact that it would be restartable in mind would make
the task a lot easier.  Maybe I'll reassemble a program with different
quit parameters and see what happens.

>|          James Brookes            | Inet: bb252@cleveland.freenet.edu |

	Hmm, aren't there some very pressing things that need to be
done?  :)  We'll worry about restartable programs in a few days... 

	As for my part, I'm done with just about everything... I need
to work on the sound drivers, put in an about screen, and put in
"demo" mode.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry
about it... it'll be out real soon now.


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From: brianh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: List of shell applications that work under GNO
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:55:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I too, greatly appreciate the work you did putting that list together.
Now I know what I need to get! :)

brianh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: mvats@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mudit P Vats)
Subject: ORCA SRC filetype conversion.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:03:59 GMT


Ok, this is the situation : I am using MicroEmacs to create a C program. NOW,
when I go to compile it, I get the error 'LANGUAGE NOT AVAILABLE'. SO,  I 
changed the filetype of the program from TXT to SRC using an NDA that I have.
There after that it compiled allright.

My question is : Is there anyway one can set the default filetype for creating
and saving files to filetype SRC ??? it is a real pain to change the filetype.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: tty problems
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:08:34 GMT

eaf2239@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>I am having a great deal of difficulty getting the serial ports under GNO to
>work properly under the gsh shell.
> 
>1.  Even with the serial ports echo off I get 2 char. back for each I type on
>the terminal display.  Data sent to the terminal from the GS is only singal
>chars as it should be.

  Use the command "stty -echo" to stop this from happening. 
 
>2.  Some simple C programs I'v tried writing just to get a feel for gno are
>doing some funny things.  Mainly, when these programs are executed on another
>terminal (other than the GS), the programs will only dump text out to the
>terminals when another program ie-ls or ps, is dumping output to the GS screen.
>When the program on "the GS" stops, so do the programs runing on the terminals.

  Make sure you're using the GNO-specific serial devices ".ttya" and ".ttyb".
Using the GS/OS generated serial drivers does in fact result in the behavior
you mentioned.

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From: tribby@hpindda.cup.hp.com (David Tribby)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:54:55 GMT
Subject: Re: applications list - was Re: ORCA SRC filetype conversion (+oper)
Organization: HP Info Networks Div/Cupertino CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) wrote:

>I've been going through the list of applications that work under GNO so
>I can A) compile a list for the FAQ and B) so I can keep an up-to-date
>list of what programs GNO has.

FANTASTIC! A *great* idea. I have often wondered whether I have the latest
version of GNO applications. This sounds like a good list to put on pindarus.
Perhaps the list could also include whether the application has a man page.

>So please, folks, when you port/write a utility, include a -V flag!  That
>way people can easily find out what version they have, and things will be
>much nicer, etc etc.  It also means when you give out source and let someone
>compile it themselves the version will still be identifable as the latest
>(which you can't say about the check-by-date version).

YES. Another useful piece of information to include is a "usage" description
giving a brief (usually one line) summary of the program arguments.

>I'll post my list in a few days, we'll see what happens...

I'll be waiting. Thanks!

-- Dave 

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Idea for improved user control of restart flag.
Keywords: restartability
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:49:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>So, is it worth adding?  Comments anyone?

  IMHO, no.  The ORCA method was created because at one time GS/OS
didn't support restarting through the Quit call.  It does now,
and thus is the standard.  If a program does rexit(), then it should
be restartable, period.  If the memory is needed the Memory Manager
will purge the restartable image anyway.

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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: varargs lib?
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:17:34 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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Subject says it all, is there a varargs libary available?  Will there
be one with C 2.0?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: cdantoni@abacus.bates.edu (Chuck D'Antonio)
Subject: Re: varargs lib?
Organization: Bates College, Lewiston, Maine
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:34:37 GMT

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>  So basically, it's there, you use a different header than BSD, and
>you're stuck if you need v*printf (although there is a 3rd party 
>vsprintf available, it's pretty useless without the other functions
>in the set, too.)

Not exactly stuck, Jawaid . . . it may be kludge, but using the string
that vsprintf produces as the format string for fprintf or printf
makes the 3rd party version work for all three functions.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Still having problems with getopt (mkdir 1.1 buggy!)
From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:39:33 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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Whelp, I thought everything was fixed, but I am still having problems
with getopt and restartability.

The problem occurs when I call mkdir with more than one wrong option flag.
For example, 'mkdir -abcd foo'.  The message it gives me is proper, ie
it doesn't like the 'a' flag.  Unfortunatly, the next three executions of
mkdir barf too!.  No matter how I call mkdir it dies with flags 'b' 'c' and
'd' before it will work again.

I've initialized all the variables that are in getopt.h, without any 
success.  When I execute mkdir the second time, argv[1] is "-p" (I 
call it with 'mkdir -p foo/bar').  I set optarg to argv[1], so that
shouldn't be a problem...

Any suggestions?  

PS: There is another (unrelated) bug with mkdir when you use the recursive
flag on a path with no seperator.  This has been fixed.
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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Idea for improved user control of restart flag.
Keywords: restartability
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:52:42 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

[Stuff about adding SYSCMND to GNO]

>So, is it worth adding?  Comments anyone?

Buy why? If a program assigns constants to variables then it should exit() and
if it was written to be restartable it should rexit(). That's all there is to
it. There is no reason to let the user control the restartability.

To let the user change the restartability implies that some people might not
like the default. But...

If the program is restartable and you want to make it non restartable, well...
  Why would you? No gain...

If the program is non restartable and you want to make it restartable, well...
  Why would you? You'd screw up your system.

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From: irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Error $1101
Date: 9 Jan 93 08:38:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc11.IRIE.93Jan9003805
Distribution: comp
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA

Hey guys, all of a sudden gno doesnt work for me.  I try to run
kern from the finder, and get error $1101. I try to run it from
orca and it gets to the "Kernel 1.0" or  something screen and crashes
into gsbug. What is error $1101?

Robert
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: varargs lib?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:21:46 GMT

cdantoni@abacus.bates.edu (Chuck D'Antonio) writes:

>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>>  So basically, it's there, you use a different header than BSD, and
>>you're stuck if you need v*printf (although there is a 3rd party 
>>vsprintf available, it's pretty useless without the other functions
>>in the set, too.)

>Not exactly stuck, Jawaid . . . it may be kludge, but using the string
>that vsprintf produces as the format string for fprintf or printf
>makes the 3rd party version work for all three functions.

  Well, okay, agreed, but let me clarify.  With only vsprintf, you have
to either allocate a buffer or make a static buffer; and if you don't
know how long a particular string may be, you might be doing a lot of
extra work that would be unnecessary with the full set.
  vsprintf has saved my butt several times, but I'm glad ORCA/C 2.0
finally has the full set.
  [ Oh.. the one thing that really irked me about the vsprintf lib
    is that no source was included with which to make the other two. ]
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Getopt lib not restartable?
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:50:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: charnel.1icoqoINNd02
Organization: California State University, Chico
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I've been trying to make mkdir restartable, but am having problems.  During
the second execution getopt returns EOF (-1) when first called, when it
should be returning an option.  I've checked all my code, and there isn't
anything I'm not initializing at run time.  So, it seems that there is 
something in the getopt lib that prevents it from being restartable...
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: ORCA SRC filetype conversion.
Date: 7 Jan 1993 08:00:30 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <C0GEqC.FrH@CAM.ORG> vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
>mvats@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mudit P Vats) writes:
>
>>Ok, this is the situation : I am using MicroEmacs to create a C program. NOW,
>>when I go to compile it, I get the error 'LANGUAGE NOT AVAILABLE'. SO,  I 
>>changed the filetype of the program from TXT to SRC using an NDA that I have.
>>There after that it compiled allright.
>
>It would probably be a lot easier if you just used chmod to change the
>filetype...

No no, chmod doesn't handle that under GNO.  You want to use chtyp instead,
as there is no excutable permission bit in the ProDOS permissions field.

chtyp -lexec or chtyp -t SRC -a \$0006 will do the trick for you...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Argh
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:46:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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	I posted the message to comp.sys.apple2 accidentally.. damn,  Anyway,
my answer to your question about NulIb is on that post, Philip Vandry.

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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: Idea for improved user control of restart flag.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 07:55:09 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu
Keywords: restartability

In article <1993Jan6.074834.14670@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1icpfiINNd21@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
>> 
>> Is it possible, in a multiuser system, for someone (for example)
>> on console to use a restartable program, then exit, and for another person
>> not on console to use the copy in memory?
>
>For simultaneous use by two people, the program would require two sets
>of variables.  Since the addresses of the variables are patched into
>the program at load time, you would need to load a new copy of the
>program to refer to a different set of variables.
>
>It can't be done, with the current System Loader architecture.

It looks like everyone missed the boat on this one, even though I thought
I was quite clear in my text above.  I had previously mentioned that
obviously two people couldn't use the same copy (in memory) at the same
time.  As I say above, "...use a restartable program _then exit_" ie, they
quit the program and leave it hanging around in memory.  Indeed, this
works just fine (no reason why it shouldn't, but I did verify it with my
terminal).

What you address is shared libraries/code, which would indeed be very
intriguing but is totally out of the question, as you correctly state. :)

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