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Subject: Re: Preferential treatment
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:57:00 GMT
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on 5 November, Margaret writes:

>In response to the research reviewed by Kathy Morgan on
>preferential treatment of men over women, I am considering changing
>my name to George or Chris or something so no one can tell I'm
>female.

        I have been advised by women mentors to use my initials only
on publications submitted for review or on my vita, for similar
reasons.
--Kathy Morgan
kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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From:         "David K. Stotz" <STOTZDK@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Some Internet Books...

Folks,

I just saw the computer books catalog from the Ingram Book Company, a
large clearing house for all sorts of books. Here are a few of the
books they carry on the internet. The descriptions below are taken
from Ingram?s catalog and prices are their single copy prices -
substantial group discounts are available (like 35%). This is NOT an
advertisement for Ingram, better deals may be found elsewhere, I just
thought I'd share this with everyone.

THE INTERNET COMPANION: A Beginner's Guide to Global Networks
Tracey LeQuey and Jeanne Ryes
Addison-Wesley
In clear non-technical language, the authors introduce  the intri-
cacies and workings of the internet. It shows how to benefit from
the rich resources of the system, including communication
throughout the world for the cost of a local telephone call,
tapping into university research databses, and downloading
articles from online archives.
ISBN: 0-201-62224-6..........paper $10.95


THE INTERNET MESSAGE: Closing the Book With Electronic Mail
Marshall T. Rose
Prentice Hall
This book is about electronic mail; the most pervasive of all network
services. I particular, this is a book about the technology used to
provide electronic mail in a special community called the "Internet."
It describes the infrastructure of the internet and provides a
detailed exposition of the technology which  makes this infra-
structure possible.
ISBN: 0-13-092941-7..........$44.00


INTERNET SYSTEM HANDBOOK Daniel C. Lynch, The interop Co., and
Marshall T. Rose
Addison-Wesley
The internet community is a fast-growing electronic link among
computer networks around the world. This book describes and
explains the internet to communications professionals, and
provides the knowlege and insight they need in order to under-
stand the internet. Among topics addressed are the historical
evolution of the Internet community, the technologies employed
in Internet?s development, and future trends.
ISBN: 0-201-56741-5..........$59.25


They also have "Zen and the Art of the Internet" (the electronic
classic now updated and in book form) for $22.00. You may be able to
get a catalog by calling Ingram?s order department at (800)-937-8000.

Enjoy, Dave Stotz, Drexel, Philadelphia.
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From:         "(Margaret Joppa)" <joppa@PSYCH.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anita Hill

Wow, Sybil, thanks for  sharing that experience with me. Seriously, I
think I have a better understanding of the whole discrimination thing
now.  Tell me what your parents did?
m. Joppa
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From:         CASE ELIZABETH <PSYGRDDEC@ORION.DEPAUL.EDU>
Subject:      embarrassing question

I really feel stupid asking this, but I have a friend how is very interested
in joining this board, and due to problems with my files, I no longer have
the posting that kinda says what our purpose is, how to sign on, general
guidelines, etc.  Could someone please send it to me?

This same message is being sent to TIPS, for those of you who are on both, you
are not seeing double.

Also, if any of you know of any neuropsych boards, she'd be interested.  I know
we recently had a posting of related mailing lists, but due to system problems,
I've lost a lot of files (fortunately none of them vital).

Thanks!

Elizabeth Case
psygrddec@orion.depaul.edu
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From:         Mike Babyak <HOPE@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment

I really wish that this discussion could go on without the use of
words such as *good old boys*, which I think is an insult to those men
who are genuinely seeking to engage in dialogue and to understand.

I think I understand the reason for using the phrase, but am unconvinced
that using language in that way is the best way to encourage dialogue.

MIKE BABYAK UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS         *THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME*
HOPE@UKANVM
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From:         lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Preferential treatment

     This discusion has been very informative to me.  I never realized (never
wanted to, I guess) that there is still so much misinformation and ignorance
about both affirmative action programs and the kinds of discriminatory
practices minority members have to go through even way before we get to the
selection process for grad school.  (How do you cleverly hide pregnancy, Tim?
and the color of your skin? What about your accent?  Yentl was a clever
story, but do you really think that cleverly hiding your gender is the
solution to discrimination?)
     Frankly, it makes me realize that not much in the selection process for
academic positions has changed.  Those in power still become suddenly (and
not coincidentally) gender/color-blind after years of gender/color
hyperacuity!
          Nangel
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Sex, preference, and "proper" thought.

And just when you thought it was getting boring...

> Groan. Now when men talk sports it's a conspiracy against women.
> Really, now.  Do women have any problems that aren't the fault of men?
>Shere Hite's Men-Are-Scum movement is passe, just as Schlafly is.
>T.



I couldn't agree more.




>So, if we're
>gonna do it, why not do it both ways and try to admire the beauty in the
>diversity out there and try and learn from each other instead of going
>towards homogenization instead? (my favorite new PC term I've heard is
>"lookism"--discrimination based on attractiveness level. I agree that we
>should try not to discrimate to the maximum extent possible, but to
>seriously consider elimating the perceptions of all differences among all
>people? Please).



Couldn't have said it better myself.


Lest we forget folks, left, right, or libertarian, many forefathers
(no, not "forepersons"!) died so that a melnge as disparate as the
likes of Kathleen McKennon and David Duke may, at varying times
depending on one's politics, insult, shock, arouse, anger, energize,
mobilize, inspire, or simply piss us off.

In the words of G. Will, "Political correctness is tantamount to
intellectual fascism."



Still guilt-free,

Kenn
kwhite@wam.umd.edu



p.s. Check out Nat Henthoff's new book, _Free speech for me -- but
      not for thee:  How the American left and right relentlessly
      Censor each other_.  New York: Harper Collins.
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: New York Academy
              5 Nov 1992 11:32:33 WET from <D.Foxcroft@SEQ.HULL.AC.UK>

You can apply to NYAS as a regular "mortal".. As a student, you can get
discount membership: $ 30 US per annum.  Also as a student you have a
priviledge to get one annal free a year and two additional annals at a
discount price of 15 bucks each.  FYI, if you are not a student you would
have to pay about $80 per annal...
As a member you also get "The sciences" magazine once every two months...
I think it is worth a shot...


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Kathy, if we're talking names - Sapolsky writes the book.  Also look
at Gould (Catherine), Woolley (Elizabeth), and McEwen (Bruce).  Also see
, nah, never mind.  Jen
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Subject:      Research Psychologist Position

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Subject: Help!! Lost Exam!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:37:00 GMT
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Help!  I've committed that most dreaded of all sins--I've apparently
lost a student's exam!  What should I do?  Require them to take it
again?  Average their remaining exams?  Give them an automatic A?  I
feel that I should not penalize them for what was MY mistake!
Seriously, I need some advice--NOW!
--Kathy Morgan
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From:         Eric Zorrilla <zorrilla@CATTELL.PSYCH.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help with serotonin subtype binding
              Nov 12, 92 1:01 pm

> I'm in over my head on a lit review for neuropsych (topic:suicide).  Can
> anyone tell me if the subtypes for 5-HT receptors have functionally
> different consequences?

I can.  Yes.  Without question, they do.

> For example, if there is an increase or decrease
> in a particular region for 5-HT-subtype-1a binding site, does that indicate
> that the entire serotonergic system is dysfunctional or that just that
> subtype of 5-HT is dysfunctional?

Dysfunctionalities can be isolated from one another.  However, it's
important to remember that 5-HT1a's act as negative feedback autoreceptors
and post-synaptic receptors, so a change in binding sites is difficult to
interpret in and of itself as increased or reduced transmission. You need to
do stuff to modulate 5-HT synthesis to get a grip on what's going on.

Still, different receptor subtypes *may*
have functional consequences on other system subtypes (e.g., 5-HT1B autorecep-
tors exist on 5HT secreting neurons that synapse with post-synaptic 5HT-1A
receptors).

An excellent review of this was recently written by Irwin Lucki here at
Penn. (1992).  I think it's a great place to start.

Eric
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From:         mmartin@ACS.UCALGARY.CA
Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment (I'm gone)

Tim,

I was lost long ago when My father couldn't convince me that
baseball & hockey were better than Books.  I'm afraid I'm still a
big disapointment to him, cause the only baseball team I like is
the Yankees, and if they aint in it, I aint watching (the only
reason I like them is cause he likes the Dodgers) :-)

Jesse
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My two cents:

        This is a reasonably high-traffice list (the 2nd most common
after PSYCGRAD in my directory) and ABSOLUTELY GREAT!!!!

--Kathy Morgan
kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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From:         "(Tor Neilands)" <tbn@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Titles

Julie Marie Williams writes:

=== Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:12:03 GMT
=== From:         "(Julie Marie Williams)" <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
=== Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment

On November 5th, Kathy writes:

>I have been advised by women mentors to use my initials only on
>publications submitted for review or on my vita, for similar
reasons.

Just an observation, here:  I have, for many years, signed myself
as J. Williams, a tradition I carried over into my postgrad.
career.  Hence I sign this name to any abstracts etc as well as to
correspondence.  The replies I get are quite amazing - mostly I am
referred to as "Dr" or "Mr" if any title is added at all!
I'm not really sure HOW I expect people to reply, though, really.
I myself find it quite a dilemma when writing to someone who I only
know by initials.  Writing "Dear F. Bloggs" hardly sounds friendly,
now does it? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Julian
St Andrews

***************

Why not address the letter "Dear Dr. Bloggs"? If s/he is a Ph.D. or M.D.,
s/he'll appreciate the use of the title....if she isn't (for example, say
the person is a grad student) they may very well get a kick out of being
addressed as "Dr." I fondly recall my first "Dr. Neilands" letter, and my
grad student friends also got a kick out of their first ones, too. It's a
thrill that diminishes with repeated exposure (and it seems to feel more
natural as one gets closer to actually getting one's Ph.D.), but at the
most it generally gets a good grin and amusement from someone (which isn't
a bad frame of mind for a letter reader to be in instead of the usual "I've
got no time to read this; what does this person want from me; I've got a
million billion things to do" mindset)--at the least it gets a mildly
tolerant grin. That's been my experience, anyway...

cheers,

Tor


Tor Neilands
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:32:00 CST
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To those who *groan* when it is suggested that the topic of sports is
somehow not relevant in discussions of preferential treatment,
perhaps I did not make myself clear.

For example, we have had discussions and presentations in seminars
on the topic of expertise using examples
of expert athletes.  We have discussed sports in the context of judgment and
decision-making.  We use the term "golf score" to describe the type of
data analysis being done.
However, I perceive that sports talk by professor-student
("who won the game last night",
"how did So-and-so do on the golf course yesterday",
"Wow, did you see ______ catch that pass? for example)
as irrelevant to class and so should be discussed outside the class
room rather than wasting the time of people (both female AND MALE) who
are there to discuss the topic of the course. It has been my experience
(sample bias recognized) that few if any female students engage in the
conversations and students I have discussed this with have similar feelings.
Hence, my inference that it is predominately a male behavior.
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Subject:      RE: Neural development and TV

Hi, I saw this on my friend, Jennifer's bulletin board and asked her if
I could reply. I like this and will try to get signed up before the end of
the week, but want to make a comment on neural development and tv now.

Do you suppose that all of the flack has to do with the fact that when we are
fully awake and when we are REM sleep the brain waves are very similar. (I
think beta waves) The fully awake state is when we learn the best, and in
infants and small children there is a greater amount of REM sleep than at
any other time of life which is when it is believed that there is also the
greatest amount of brain development. However, when we watch tv the brain
relaxes and actually falls into a pattern of alpha waves where there is far
less focus of attention. That was checked in a study and I don't remember
which study it was. But it was designed to find out if using television to
teach children with would be a viable means of instruction. Unfortunately,
they discovered that children's brains also fall into the alpha wave pattern.
Now whether or not it actually stunts neural development, I don't know, but
it makes sense that if brain growth is greatest during beta wave periods,
then the longer children spent glued to a television, the longer they would
be delaying their brain development. Just a theory...Sunni
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From:         "(Margaret Joppa)" <joppa@PSYCH.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sexism and language a la Preferenti

The American Heritage dictionary defines male as "the sex CAPABLE of
fertilizing ova or begetting young."  Where is the "capable of" in
Webster?  A.H. also defines female as "the sex that produces ova or
bears young."  Better would be to define female as " the sex that
produces ova and has the capacity to bear young.
Margaret
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Anita Hill

JlBugg (?)
I am sorry, if I will sound harsh, but if one of those men described by you
did this to me, oh, they would hear not only a comment, or two, but also
a noise made by their crushing teeth...
Just my 0.02 cents worth.


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Subject:      Help with Hippocampi

Hi!  I'm trying to learn more about the hippocampus, from the
perspective of one who is interested in temperament, response
to stress, and attachment.  Any suggestions from the more
physiologically trained folk out there on where a fairly
"limbic system knowledge-naive" person might begin to improve
her condition?
        Thanks in advance!
        --Kathy Morgan
        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment
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Kathy,

>        I don't want to kill "them", I just want to change
>some of the ways "they" do business.  Or more directly, to
>change the power and political dynamic such that women (and


Do you really think that anyone will ever change their ways?
Even if a person is forced to accept that the world is changing,
that doesn't mean that they will change how they feel. I think
that as they are slowly defeated, the fight will become more
intense.

Jesse Martin
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