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From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: YKYBRNTLW.... (Re: Where to meet women?)
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:44:38 GMT

In article <BxuIII.LB8@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.160054.7299@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>In article <BxqE3D.Kus@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov12.041104.8421@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>>>>We ProblemOlderWomen can only get the title
>>>>when we want sex MORE than our ProblemYoungerMen...
>>>Hmmm.... Haven't dated many French Men , have we?  >:->
>>I don't think you've met a *real* ProblemOlderWoman yet, have you?
>No, why? Got some phone numbers? Heh heh heh.

Sorry!  Gotta find your own!
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:20:37 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <7260@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>... but this often backfires when someone decides
>to call me Liz in attempt to sound friendly (and earns, instead, my
>hostility).

Uh huh.  The quickest way for a salesman to earn my hostility is to
call me Bob rather than asking how I prefer to be addressed.  I'm
sometimes a little kinder to higher forms of life :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:12:01 GMT

In article <thurlow.722463831@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>
>People really don't stop to think that a really funny joke they've
>just thought of based on someone's name or physical attributes has
>probably been heard by the person in question a thousand times
>already, and is unlikely to be considered funny.

Almost always true--but every once in a while, I run into an exception;
I have a customer named Christopher Lee and the first time I talked to
him I made some small joke about it--and he had never heard of the 
other Christopher Lee or seen any of his movies before.  (I did end up
explaining my "joke" and he ended up renting a movie to find out who I
was talking about.)  A few weeks ago, I teased someone named "Breccia"
about her name and she'd never even heard of "breccia" before.

Of course, now that I think about it, neither of these people had the
slightest idea what I was talking about when I made a joke based on
their name, so they didn't consider it funny either--so maybe your
point still stands.

Trygve    (Now who was it who just posted something about the 
           "Mother Lode"?) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 10:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <92321.200039SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>Just think; twenty years from now, there will be heaps of people
>who never got to bring a bucket of snow inside, pour soft maple
>sugar taffy on it, drape taffy swirl on appropriate bit of LO,
>and proceed.

That's some kinky canadian thing, isn't it.
You pre-verts.
:) :) :)
r.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: nkill  (Was: Re: KILLING a Poster rather than a Post)
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:05:56 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Nov11182550@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.070916.11329@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:


>	I do not mind if there are differences of opinion.  Just do not
>   make others do what you want them to do against their will.  If you
>   do, then you must expect consequences.  Basically, live and let live.
>
>David, I don't think I disagree with any of the positions you took as
>explained.  But nkill-ing people whose positions you dislike seems to
>display the opposite of "live and let live".  It sounds an awful lot
>like "do what I say or I'll kill you."

How about "I don't care what you do to yourself, but let me do what I
want or I'll kill you"?

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Why do women
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:24:36 GMT

In article <By3rI8.D6C@unix.portal.com> mzank@shell.portal.com
(matthew c zank) writes:
>Why do women just go for men with big muscle and lots of hair,
>and for any man who does not have any of this "too bad"?

That's just what they're telling you.  If you developed big muscles
and grew lots of hair, they'd find some other excuse not to go out
with you.

>for that matter why do women have such narrow minds when
>it comes to views on men.

It sometimes amazes me how many women are turned on by overweight,
balding men with great senses of humor (such as myself).  EYHO.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:43:15 GMT

In article <15604@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <31554@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>|
>|Just imagine...
>|
>|"Yes officer, I'm from Finland.  I want to visit U.S. because... Well,
>|there's this woman... No, actually I have never met her, I don't even
>|know where she lives... but I was hoping... perhaps she would hug
>|me... See, there's this boink happening and I hope that she will be
>|there..."
>
>That would certainly be easier to to explain than Allison's Banana trick.
>
>Just how would you explain james.dutton.

Sensitive. Very, very, vewwwyyy sensitive.
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes 
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:07:57 GMT
	<1992Nov17.194033.20468@informix.com> <lgl06rINNqsi@news.bbn.com>
	<31541@hydra.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI's message of 19 Nov 92 11:10:36 GMT

In article <31541@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:

   >In that case, cross-posting to soc.singles is probably a *BIG* mistake.
   >We're not very safe.

   I don't know about others, but I've always felt safe here.  I started
   posting to soc.singles about 6 months ago and during that time I
   haven't seen any inappropriate followups to my posts.  And what's
   important to me, nobody has flamed my English! :)  I think that a good
   article will get good followups here.

I think someone (it may even have been me?) once suggested that the real
rules for soc.singles were (1) have a clue (2) think (3) write
interestingly and with occasional wit.  Nothing in that list about good
English.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:21:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.194640.9813@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com
(Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>, loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

>> Me, I wouldn't work in a place where I was expected to get dressed up
>> unless I was *really* desperate, which I'm not.  Heck, I don't even own
>> a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.
>
>I don't own a dress either, I borrow my sisters.  :)

You have seesters?!  Do you play poker?

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re: Suggestions needed....
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:37:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.080425.19672@rdg.dec.com> veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
>
>..................................................
>
>Maybe I'm just completely stupid in hoping that some day he'll get over the 
>marriage/kid thing and will be able to love me fully... so many things he 
>does even now feels so much like love... i.e. we sit down to watch 
>a movie at my place; he holds my hand or cuddles with me... when we're in 
>the car together, he holds my hand while one of us is driving (depending 
>on whose car we're in)... he buys me things that 'boyfriends' buy for their 
>girlfriends... he hugs me and holds me and kisses my cheek when we say 
>goodbye for the day or night... we've slept in the same bed (nothing has 
>happened) and he's waken me with a soft kiss on the cheek or a gentle 
>caress...
>
>I've had a couple of friends tell me to just forget about him and move 
>on or that we've known each other this long and if anything was going to 
>happen (more than friendship) between us, it would have already happened...

Your friends are giving you good advice.  For your own sake, use it!
>
>How do you stop loving someone you see almost every day and who hasn't done 
>anything wrong?????  I don't want to stop loving him... I don't want to say 
>a final goodbye to him because even based on friendship alone, he's the 
>best thing that's ever happened to me... I don't want to lose our 
>friendship or our closeness but I don't know how to stop the deeper 
>feelings from seeping in and making me sad that we don't have more....
>
KSV,
Ask yourself this question:
	
	If he is the "best thing that ever happenned to me",
	then why do I feel so miserable?

Having the feelings that you have for this guy, and not being able to act
upon them must be pure torture for you.  Why put yourself through it?
As far as "being there for him", I suggest that that is his (former?)
SO's job.  Who is "there" for you?  My best advice to you is to break
now, and break clean.  Explain to him that the relationship that you
have with him is only making you miserable, and that you need some
time to yourself to get your life back in order.  The next thing is for
you to stay away from him (I mean no contact whatsoever) for as long as
it takes you to adjust to life without him, or until you find somebody new,
or better yet, _both_ .  I am not suggesting that this is going to be easy,
but you gotta' do it..... no ifs, ands, or maybes. Believe me, there _is_
another man out there for you. How will you meet him as long as you are
occupied with "being there" for your platonic friend?
>.......................
>
>-- KSV
>

Keith R
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Brain Transplant?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:36:11 GMT
	<BxxFB1.1nI@rice.edu> <1992Nov18.220541.27513@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
	<lglgrfINN2hp@news.bbn.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: dhardin@bbn.com's message of 18 Nov 92 22:27:59 GMT

In article <lglgrfINN2hp@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:


   In article <1992Nov18.220541.27513@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
   >In article <BxxFB1.1nI@rice.edu> mmzn@rice.edu (Mark Mazina) writes:
   >>
   >>    /
   >>    |  obnoxious d(obnoxious)  =?   dawn  +  C
   >>    /
   > 
   >2.1

   I thought it was at least a 7.  

It pretty much has to be either, e, \pi, or 2.

   Or am I just being easy because it had
   my name in it?

Would that it were enough.

(P.S. Are you not speaking to me?  Or is the email out to lunch again?)
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Xref: sparky soc.singles:31255 ba.singles:2229
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: YKYBRNTLW.... (Re: Where to meet women?)
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:08:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.160054.7299@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>In article <BxqE3D.Kus@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov12.041104.8421@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>>>>We ProblemOlderWomen can only get the title
>>>>when we want sex MORE than our ProblemYoungerMen...
>>>Hmmm.... Haven't dated many French Men , have we?  >:->
>>I don't think you've met a *real* ProblemOlderWoman yet, have you?
>>
>No, why? Got some phone numbers? Heh heh heh.

         *SLAM* <brandishing Uzi>

"Up against the wall, Francois. Palms flat! Spread 'em!"

*clank* *rattle*
<four metallic snaps>

"I'll be back for you later. Maybe."

PS Bruce, you're right. You don't "find" 'em.

--
                   The older woman flirts with a self-controlled awareness 
Stef               which can make her assaults much more deadly than the
stef@apple.com     blind rushes of the young  -- Iris Murdoch
From: kgorman@bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:07:25 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <7260@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
writes:
> In article <thurlow.722367772@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com
>(Robert Thurlow) writes:
|>>I had a boss once, "Bob", who thought all "Robert"s liked to be called
|>>"Bob" the way he liked to be called "Bob", and he called me "Bob" every
|>>time I talked to him through my summers at the pulp mill.  To this day,
|>>I refuse to answer to "Bob", though I will on occasion ask someone who
|>>uses the name "Bob" who they might be referring to if there's no one else
|>>around.
|> 
|> Wow, sounds as bad as being named 'Elizabeth' in a decade in which popular
|> consensus has decreed that all Elizabeths be called 'Liz'.  I often
|> introduce myself as Elizabeth Abrams because it sounds more formal and
|> adult than Beth Abrams,

During this introduction, do you state clearly that you prefer to be
addressed as Elizabeth or Beth, or whatever you wished to be addressed as
(since there are so many nicknames/variations on the name Elizabeth and 
Robert too)?

|> but this often backfires when someone decides
|> to call me Liz in attempt to sound friendly (and earns, instead, my
|> hostility).
 
If you didn't state your preference clearly during the introduction, then
I really don't think hostility is called for, particularly since you 
realize people are just trying to be friendly.



Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: YKYBRNTLW.... (Re: Where to meet women?)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:48:07 GMT

aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>>diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>>>
>>>We ProblemOlderWomen can only get the title
>>>when we want sex MORE than our ProblemYoungerMen...
>>
>>Hmmm.... Haven't dated many French Men , have we?  >:->
>
>I don't think you've met a *real* ProblemOlderWoman yet, have you?
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, haven't you read the book yet?  It's in all the bookstores:

  "REAL ProblemOlderWomen Don't Take 'NO' for an Answer."


-- 
 .------------------------------------------------------------------.
 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
 |                 |   Internet: gerg@netcom.COM                    |
 `------------------------------------------------------------------'
From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: YKYBRNTLW.... (Re: Where to meet women?)
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:49:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <74487@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov15.160054.7299@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>>I don't think you've met a *real* ProblemOlderWoman yet, have you?
>>No, why? Got some phone numbers? Heh heh heh.
>         *SLAM* <brandishing Uzi>
>"Up against the wall, Francois. Palms flat! Spread 'em!"
>*clank* *rattle*
><four metallic snaps>
>"I'll be back for you later. Maybe."

Uzi? Handcuffs? Could it be? YES!!!! I have found Her! My problem *X* woman!
<Jean-Louis Gassee / Pepe le Pew accent mode ON>
"Come heer mah sherree. What eez zees? She poot on zee hand coofs?
Ahhh, she wahnt to pley at zee games in zee Mahdonnah book.
Zee Ahmereecahn whomahn she eez so eempoolseev...."
<Silly accent mode OFF>

Yer right Bruce, you don't find the phone #s , they rush right into
your arms.  ;) 

Francois. 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:14:43 GMT

In article <5747@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>Seth Breidbart (sethb@fid.morgan.com) wrote:
>: I also conform by sleeping at night, arriving at work in the morning,
>: and staying throughout the day.  In return for that sort of stuff (not
>: to mention my tremendous native abilities, training, and knowledge),
>: they pay me lots of money.  It certainly seems like a fair tradeoff.
               ^^^^
>
>Nah.... that's not fair... I work for a company that lets me work
>from home. I get to dress the way I want (I'm sitting here in shorts
>with a beer in my hand while I try to type with 1 hand :) ) unless
>I have to see clients. I work my own hours... just have to put 40
>in each week. This lets me goof around during the day, and work
>into the wee hours (3 or 4). I just wish I could learn to sleep
>late! :) They pay me a fair amount of money to follow VERY broad
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>guidelines.... It's better that way... I'm more productive! :)

I'm willing to make the trade of time freedom for more money.  The
company I work for is also willing to make that trade.  Therefore,
it's a fair trade.  (I think the freedom I get from having more money
is worth more to me than the freedom I give up by having a normal
working schedule.)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:54:08 GMT
	<1992Nov21.210107.7915@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
	<1992Nov22.204329.10301@ncsu.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu's message of 22 Nov 92 20:43:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.204329.10301@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

   I think I know why people have objected to my posting of a  
   description of the fetal remains from an abortion, and it's
   not because it's "inappropriate" for this newsgroup.  There
   are ongoing political discussions in this newsgroup, and
   nobody seems to care.  

This particular newsgroup has developed the character of a cocktail
party.  People -- at least literate, involved people -- often find
themselves discussing politics at cocktail parties, especially when a
big campaign is on.  However, a person at a cocktail party who walks in
and immediately starts describing fetal remains, or the last autopsy he
saw, or any number of other thoroughly disgusting things, would be
bloody well unlikely to be invited back.  And if he were obtuse enough
to not notice the aggrivation and annoyance of the other people present,
he might well be asked to leave.

   The people in this newsgroup don't  
   want others to realize that abortion destroys a human life.

I think you would find if you checked that the proportion of people who
do or do not object to abortion is approximately the same as other
college-educated people.

   They could put me in a killfile, and they wouldn't have to 
   read the description.  But it's the fact that other people
   can read the description which upsets them.

No, asshole, it's the fact that *I* had to read the description before I
*knew* you should be in my kill file that upsets me.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:23:46 GMT

In article <7222@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>In article <BxzJot.L4G@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>Are you still using stone tools in your cave?  There's now software for
>>personal computers that not only maintains a check register but also will
>>dial up a service in Columbus, Ohio, and transmit information on about all
>>the checks you've just written.  The service then prints up the checks, 
>>stuffs them into metered envelopes, mails them off, and places a draft on
>>your checking account.  You can have the service schedule the payments for
>>future dates.
>
>Sounds nifty.  However, I'm operating at a ridiculously low income level,
>and the service you describe would probably cost more than I have in my
>checking account in the first place.

It's less than $10/month for the first 20 transactions.  It's more expensive
than mailing checks yourself, but then you no longer have to suffer through
the drudgery of writing checks, sealing and stamping envelopes, and dropping
same into a mailbox.  Being able to program the payments for specific times
in the future is nice if you have to travel a lot.
 
>                                      My pressure-sensitive checks may
>be 'obsolete' (by what standard?)

The employment of paper.  The service I described uses EFT to the maximum
extent and resorts to paper checks only for totally primitive payees, e.g.,
you and me (Trygve Lode might be payable by EFT, though).

>                                  and my own personal computer may be
>at about the stone-tool level, but the whole system works for me.

When I opened my first checking account, my "personal computer" was a
soroban (Japanese version of the abacus).  Later I thought that hand-held
calculators seemed pretty neat.  I've still got the soroban, stuck away in
some desk drawer; the calculators died several years ago.  However, I began
throwing away the check registers that the bank sends with a new supply of
checks, and soon I hope not to have to order the checks, either.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles