Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Extreme naivety and egocentricism among us
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na  
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:45:36 GMT

In article <lg3aq2INNa6e@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.164511.505434@sue.cc.uregina.ca>  (Yongfei Yan) writes:
>>>Chinese educated people used to be known as very polite and gentleman like.
>>>After all destruction of Chinese culture due to internal long time struggle
>>>among CCP members, and so largerly influenced the common people, Chinese
>>>people seem don't care to respect the olds, the teachers and those repectable
>>This is not true. 
>>
>FYI, just read some of Shanon and protection bill related postings,
>you would convince yourself how rude those people are, and how wild the
>languages they used in the public network.
>
That guy is as representitive of Chinese as Jeffery Darhmers is a model
American.  

>>>people. After long time hatrd education, all educated young generation only
>>>know how to blame KMT and Chiang everything was done 40 something years ago,
>>>on the other hand they don't seem to know that each generation of people do
>>>have some responsibility to the society, to the nation, simply don't care.
>>I can't agree. 
>
not a bad self-description.  

>FYI, pick up some of politics related or non-politics related postings,
>you will constantly find: Chiang bala bala..., KMT bala bala....
>
Oh, yes, I confess, I said that Marshal GeShu Han was a evil KMT
member overthrowing the Tang Empire from within.  ;->  

>> I bet most of the Chinese people are still concerned
>>about their country. 
>
>It is estimated 80,000 of mainland Chinese will apply protection bill.
>And recent CCTV reported that 180 millions are the "don't care".

I don't think you can bash and believe CCP newsreports at the same time.  

>
>>For thousands of years, we Chinese people have never had a government
>>that allows us to contribute to the society FREELY.
>
>This is not true. We Chinese people do have a good structure government
>that was adapted by Sun based on the US government structure to modify

Sun had a concept, it was never realized by him, Yuan ShiKuai took
over the republican government, desposed the Tempory Constitution to
become a dictator, Sun continue to try and continue to fail, at the
time of his death he was trying to reach a compromise with Duan QiRui,
and the northern warlords.  

>for China needs, and is the basis of constitution of ROC.
>CCP and their supporters just cannot allow that comes to real life.

When Dr. Sun died, CCP and its supporters and KMT and its supporters
are working on the samething -- militarily take over china(and then
shoot other guy, that part was not said out loud so the other one
can here)  

>If CCP really respect Sun, why they destroyed everything, or put aside

if the decision makers in CCP and KMT had any respect for Sun, they 
won't break up their alliance and start to slaughter each other 
for the sole purpose of grabing dictorial power.  


>everything that Sun proposed many decades ago?

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