From: CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.personals,alt.personals.ads
Subject: MY case study of Women on the net.
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:11:34 GMT
 <1992Nov4.164637.15899@umr.edu>
Organization: Penn State University


For the past few days, I have tried to understand the problem of why
women do not respond on the net, at least not very often. In this report
I will give you the problem as I see it, possible solutions, and what
I expect from all of you.


PROBLEM:
     I have been talking to many men and women who post to the four personal
groups.  I have summarized the problems as the women see them, and as
others see them. the suggestions I give hopefully will solve some of the
problems.  Here are, the problems as I see them.

1. ( See My last post, on ALT.PERSONALS  ALL:Re reason no women..).

2. From what I have been told, one problem is the email received from
   various males.  Most of the male is not relevant to their posts. If
   anyone doubts this, I think I can persuade a few people to summarize
   and post this email (without names) to all 4 boards.  The email
   is useless and sick.  Of course, the very hart of posting articles..
   is to receive letters.However, these kinds of letters are not needed.


3. Another problem is women just getting picked on and flamed. Of course,
everything is fair game, but sometimes it goes to extreams.


4. Another reason is the post themselves. You people friggen disgust me.//
   ///well, some of you...your not all bad../////////
    Some of these posts...they contain no hart, no soul, no feeling...
   I really don't think a woman needs to know your dick size at first...
   I realize most posts arn't like this , but many are....
   A women..said in a post something to the effect of, "women arn't
   expected to judge men by their looks...but men do....I think there
   is a point here.


5. Point 5 is the one I get bitched at the most about...because males are too
   stupid to follow this post up...and females agree with most of stuff i say
   ,at least this has been the evidence so far...

Point 5 has been discussed before..without any solution...
I do not know how many of you remember the flame wars of last year...but
   I do....and I know I miss a lot of people who left because of it.
   Today, there are no real flame wars, but a social problem still exists
   with homosexuals....(turn flame on here)

    I know many will say..hey if you don't like it, don't read it...well..
   I have news for you..many don't like it and just leave. There is no
   reason why homosexuals cannot have their own board.  If I have my way,
   I will create one for them.  This of course is rather bold of me....
   There is no reason why I have to read about someone's dick size, their
   homosexual desires..and so forth.  Alt.per.bondage has their own board...
   so should homosexuals. Do not foolishly try to state my psychology...
   any responses such as "Oh gee, you think only homosexuals post dick size,
   or you are a basher, you are this, that..." dont tell me who I am, I
   know who and what I am. Silly posts will not be answered.

   Do not simply think that I am a gay basher, or any other word you
   wish to use.  I strongly believe that you should be able to go on a board
   where you can see things that do not bother you as this subject seems to
   do to some people.. By splitting the groups up, I believe
       1. You wont have to read a 200new letters a day...
       2. Peop le will get along alot more.
    Again...for the two-dimensional thinkers out there...I am not doing this
    to spite anyone, nor do I have secret fears or desires about
    homosexuals.

   I do not plan to stray from this belief.  I also do not care what any
hetero or homosexual says, when you do a study, and watch the board wither
in a number of years...then respond to me on this issue.  If you don't
know what your talking about..then just stay away.
   Although, I value opinions..it is how we all grow..I do not value
useless flames...(unless they are funny). If your post is not logical...
I will not respond to it. Plain, direct, and simply put.


SOLUTIONS:

1. Split up alt.per into two groups.
        alt.per.heterosexual
        alt.per.homosexual.

2. Put some feeling into your posts.

3. This isn't a playground..some people really hope to find someone
    that can make them happy. Bashing and flames, poor email taste,
    are not wanted and not justified.

4. Have some respect for your fellow posters, and put something decent
   into your posts, draw your words from yourself. And if a post
does not apply to you...don't respond to it.

By all means, respond to this, as some have in email, or you may post.
But It isn't my intention to start a flame war...I am simply stating
the facts as i have collected and my observations of what I have seen.

Thank you for your time..and I hope this article is not in vain.

By Chad Smith.
Newsgroups: alt.personals