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From: jimd@m2xenix.psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Re: Dan Menendez
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:54:59 GMT

In <18o39mINNemu@agate.berkeley.edu> jboyce@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Jack Boyce) writes:

> Speaking of this routine, I've always wondered.  Is he actually
> *aiming* to hit the right keys, or is the thing programmed to play
> the correct sequence when he "bounces" out the rhythm?  I find it hard
> to believe that anyone could aim well enough with 5 balls to actually
> hit the right keys (and never accidentally hit 2 keys at once).
> Anybody ever watch it in slow motion, to see what's going on?  Just
> wondering...

Well, at the risk of being labelled a blabbermoush, Dan is using a sequencer.
If you have seen the routine a number of times (as I have), if he drops or
misses, especially during the beginning of the routine, he will have to stop
and "test bounce" for a few notes to find his place again.

Even so, it's a great routine.


Jim the Juggler, a.k.a.:  jimd@m2xenix.psg.com
From: RiViT@cup.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Looking for 60 cheap beanbags
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:51:09 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Hmm... I <first> started juggling with water filled tennis balls - they're
nearly perfect in weight and size (IMO).

I knew someone who was an insulin user (diabetic) and was able to use
one of their syringes to fill the ball with water.  Simply pulling the
plunger out of the syringe, turning the water tap on, stabbing the
ball, and placing it under the tap was sufficient to fill the ball
90% of the way.  Then you can put the plunger back into the syringe
and force the rest of the water into the ball (and the air will be
out by this time).  Dropping them a couple times (from head height)
onto a hard surface will force out the extra water.  The rubber in
the tennis balls will "Self seal" the balls and keep the water in (and
the air out).

The balls take two or three days to dry.
From: zetie@vax.oxford.ac.uk (The Edible Dormouse)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: UK format video supplier wanted
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:30:07 GMT
Organization: Oxford University, Dept of Antiquated Physics

Does anyone supply UK format videos? I am particularly interested in acquiring
the Michael Moschen 2 hour special for our group.

thanks

ken

ps yes I know I asked earlier in the summer but I hope that the people who know
the answer were on holiday then! I'm sure I've seen this info somewhere on this
group once.
 
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From: dechc00@tohi.DMI.USherb.CA (CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Looking for 60 cheap beanbags
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:55:40 GMT
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et
	d'Informatique

I have seen a guy juggling with 1$ a piece bean bags.
He baught a hole box of those bags in a shop called "Everithing for a buck"
in Montreal.  The bags are not the usual four pieces used for juggling but
the two pieces used for Hacky-sack.  They are smaller, lighter and less filled
than good juggling bags but the guy would still proudly juggle 5 balls,
for only $5.76 (tax included).
From: rick@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Fredrick Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: On how to keep new members (absolute beginners)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:08:22 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

By far, the bulk of my experience with new jugglers has been such:

An accomplished 3-ball cascade looks trivial to do.  Bystanders 
assume it's just a matter of learning the "trick" and ask
to be "shown" how to do it.
I get them to the point of doing a 3-ball flash,
which usually takes 15-30 minutes, and by that time they usually
realize that this is something they are going to have to...
(shudder) PRACTICE.  

*IF* I ever see them again, they say they haven't spent any time practicing.

Conclusion:  a majority of absolute beginners find out that juggling
isn't what they thought it was, and they loose interest, and there's
not much you can do about it.



      Rick   Wilson             Rick Wilson       Cross-eyed STEREO
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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: "terry jones" <tjones@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: How can I find the FKBs?
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:07:26 -0500

In article <1685DA28C.IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU> IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil) writes:
>In article <92252.214821BEF104@psuvm.psu.edu>
>BEF104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
>>If there anyone out there who knows how I can get in touch with the Flying
>>Karamazov Brothers, please send me an E-mail.  Our club would like to have
>>them do a show at Penn State, some time in the Spring during our 7th annual
>>Juggling Festival.  Thanks in advance--help is muchly appreciated.
>>
>>Brian Fox BEF104@psuvm.psu.edu President, Penn State Juggling Club
> 
>Check in the archives from the JUGGLING/LISTSERV days stored @ MooCow...
> 
>I remember posting it once back then when I found it in a program from
>the show they did @ Purdue two years ago.  I probably still have a
>program buried somewhere @ home, but searching electronically would
>be considerably faster...

Here it is (from pub/juggling/old-listserv-archives/juggling/log9109b if anyone cares).
Terry.

+ Date:         Fri, 13 Sep 1991 12:02:37 EST
+ Reply-To:     "Juggling - For all jugglers." <JUGGLING@INDYCMS.BITNET>
+ Sender:       "Juggling - For all jugglers." <JUGGLING@INDYCMS.BITNET>
+ From:         MacPhil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.BITNET>
+ Subject:      Misc + FKB
+ 
+ I've been formulating some thoughts about UseNet and will try to put
+ them together over the weekend.
+ 
+ Re:  FKB (Flying Karamazov Brothers)
+ 
+ Here's an entry from the program at Purdue last year (since someone asked
+ about tour information):
+ 
+ Send a SASE to Roxanna Buteek
+                c/o The FKB
+                3736 La Calle Ct.
+                Palo Alto, CA  94306
+ 
+   MacPhil   |   iqti400@indycms.bitnet   |   iqti400@indycms.iupui.edu
From: femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS)
Subject: 1993 IJA Festival
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 14 Sep 1992 16:19 EST  

Hey folks!

What are the dates for the 1993 IJA Festival in Fargo?

Thanks in advance!!

**************************************************************************

Bruce Manners                                          Juglito, ergo sum

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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: day!nullset!rick@uwm.edu (Richard J. Moll)
Subject: Keeping novice club members
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 20:56:43 CDT
X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2)

On the subject on keeping novice members in a university club,
The U of Minnesota club was fairly successful at this during the
time I was there (mid-eighties).  Here are some possible reasons:

1) It was as much a social club as a juggling club.  We did a lot
   of things together besides juggle.  This may have been valuable
   to incoming freshmen at a very large, impersonal, institution.

2) We always let new members know that they were wanted.  When
   someone approached and asked what we were doing, I'd always
   explain that we were the university juggling club and we were
   having a membership drive.  I didn't bother to explain that
   we were *always* having a membership drive.

3) There were always people willing to give informal advice and coaching.

4) There was a *large* range of ability in the club, but everyone was
   accepted as equal at the meetings, and included in club performances.

5) There was a thriving juggling community in Minneapolis outside the
   university, including quite a number of very good jugglers, most
   of whom were very friendly.

--Rick Moll	(rick@nullset.UUCP)
From: NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Skydiving & Juggling
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:46:20 GMT
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston


It justed occurred to me that my previous posting about
juggling in freefall is embarassingly linear. Why use heavy
balls and throw up?  Why not use light balls and throw down?
An inverted cascade might be a lot easier; kinda like "bounce"
juggling without a floor. It would certainly be more natural -
you're already facing down.

David Naylor
Groundhog
From: hydick@convex.com (Mark Hydick)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: 24' Oday for sale, Texas
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:11:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Posted for a friend:
1988 24' Oday
Roller furling, head, galley, 6HP Johnson with alternator.
Currently located at Lake O' The Pines, Jefferson, Texas.
$13,900
Reply to this account or call Bruce / Neicole Woodall at
214-985-8530 in Plano, Texas.
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: anderson@optik.eng.yale.edu
Subject: Re: Awesome sailing last weekend, huh?
Organization: Yale University, Dept. of EE
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:26:54 EST

In article <1992Sep1.150928.19124@icd.teradyne.com>, 
burzycki@zax.eda.teradyne.com (Mike Burzycki) writes:
> Anybody out there do any sailing this past weekend in the Massachusetts area? 
> The wind was really howling both days...
>   
> [Sunfish story deleted]

I was on Cape Cod that weekend.  We rented a sailboat for a couple of
hours out of Wellfleet harbor and had an absolutely wild ride. 

The boat we rented was a 16-17 foot catboat with a reefed main and could
only be described as a tub.  It had a huge cockpit and tons of
freeboard. There was no subtlety involved in sailing this boat.  One
only needed brute force. There were four of us--my wife, her brother,
and her mother with room to spare for at least two more. Close-hauled,
the sailing was wet and fun.  The sea must have been out for my
mother-in-law.  No matter if we were on port tack or starboard, she was
constantly getting doused by every wave which sprayed up over the side.
If she moved to a different seat, she still got it.  Everyone else 
stayed fairly dry.  I tried to keep from laughing, but couldn't--it was
like a slapstick routine.  I've never seen her have so much fun.  When
we got in, she was totally soaked (fortunately, the bay water is still
pretty warm). 

Returning to port was tough.  My wife was at the tiller when we turned
around and very quickly learned that a straight run wouldn't work.  A
wave lifted one end of the boat and knocked the boom over to the other
side. Then she panicked and accidentally jibed again, a goosewing this
time (no boom vang), the force of which I had never seen before, then
she came into irons to regain her composure.  We went in the rest of the
way on broad reaches doing 270 degree tacks since the rental desk told
us not to jibe.  At least the accidental ones didn't do any damage. 

That was some wind! 

Warren
From: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Huntington)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Corrosion question
Date: 14 Sep 1992 16:41:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nonsuch.ebay.sun.com

In article 22177@phx.mcd.mot.com, dbk@phx.mcd.mot.com (Dave Kinzer) writes:
>    I am curious as to whether it is better to leave your seacocks
> open or closed when away from the boat for a time.  In a salt-water
> environment, the sacrificial zinc is connected both electrically
> (via the bonding system) and physically (through the saltwater) to
> the engine (or generator, macerator, strainer, etc.)  When you close 
> the seacock, the system traps saltwater in the system, with no zinc
> to act as the sacrificial anode.  Is this going to cause corrosion
> faster than with the seacock open? 


This seems to me to be a classic case of not being able to see the forrest for the
trees.  How can someone be worried about the relatively minor effects of possible
corrosion and ignore the possibility of his boat sinking?  So far as I can tell,
water will be touching the metal parts of the boat mentioned, whether or not the
sea cocks are open.  (Yes, some engines do have zincs in them).  However, I think
you place you boat at risk of sinking if you leave you seacocks open when you 
leave the boat for a time.  There was an article in the most recent edition of
Latitude 38 which said that most salvage operations are due to boats sinking in
their slip.  And, the reason why most boats sink in their slop is because the 
seacock is left open and a hose or fitting fails.

Jeff Huntington
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: larry@pdn.paradyne.com (Larry Swift)
Subject: Re: Bayliner myths: a challenge
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:23:15 GMT

The owner of same boat in my earlier post (35', 4 or
5 years old) had an interesting problem with it.  
While approaching the dock a little faster than he
had intended, he threw it into reverse at something
more than idle throtttle.  It didn't make it.  It
stayed in forward gear and slammed the seawall,
breaking the bow pulpit in half.  At least Bayliner
paid for the repair.  But I'd be real nervous about
the transmission after that.

Larry Swift                     larry@pdn.paradyne.com
AT&T Paradyne, LG-132           Phone: (813) 530-8605
8545 - 126th Avenue, North      Gulfstar 37, aft cockpit
Largo, FL, 34649-2826           She's old and she's creaky, but she holds!

Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: bennett@erich.triumf.ca (P.Bennett)
Subject: Re: Splices vs Bends
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:42:00 GMT

In article <venable.139@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu>, 
    venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable) writes...
>>> My Freedom 21 came with several lines finished with eye-splices. In
>>> aperticular, there was one at the end of the mainsheet that was attached
>>> to the fiddle (?) on the main block. 
>>> So, I turned the line around,
>>> rerplaced the eye-splice with a carrick bend, and got margaret to execute
>>> one of her super whipping jobs to the (bitter?) end. It looks better,
>>> and its pretty obvious how good it is; 
> 
My books say a Carrick Bend is used to join two lines - How do you use it to
form a loop at the end of a line???

I would think that the appropriate knot (or bend) here would be the Bowline.
Personally, I would use an eye splice - it is stronger and neater than any
knot.  If you are really concerned about it slipping, you can put several
stitches through the splice, and a whipping over them.


Peter Bennett VE7CEI                | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight
Internet: bennett@erich.triumf.ca   | of one another only when one can be
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From: dozier@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dan Dozier)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: rebuilding boat refridg. Question
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:15:40 GMT
Reply-To: dozier@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dan Dozier)
Organization: David Taylor Whatever: Carderock Addition; NSWC

In rec.boats, gerard@progress.COM (Gerard Bras) writes:

>Sounds like it's propylene glycol.  I think it the basis for current
>auto antifreeze since ethylene glycol was found to be too toxic.
>There is an easy taste test.  PG is intensly sweet.  Don't chug a lug,
>just a smidge on the fingertip.
>
Question....  I understand the taste test if it's propylene glycol,
but what if it's ethylene gylcol (too toxic to use)?
From: venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Splices vs Bends
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:06:48 GMT
Organization: WVU College of Engineering

>> My Freedom 21 came with several lines finished with eye-splices. In
>> aperticular, there was one at the end of the mainsheet that was attached
>> to the fiddle (?) on the main block. 
>> So, I turned the line around,
>> rerplaced the eye-splice with a carrick bend, and got margaret to execute
>> one of her super whipping jobs to the (bitter?) end. It looks better,
>> and its pretty obvious how good it is; 

>I thought you lose more strength with a knot than with a splice.  The figures I  
>recall are 60% of strength retained with a well executed knot and 90% with a  
>splice.  

On a "small" boat, the line size is more likely to be determined by the 
minimum needed for comfortable grip or "stretch prevention"than rope 
strength.
From: zielke@FOZZIE.NRL.NAVY.MIL (David Zielke)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: rebuilding boat refridg. Question
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:52:27 GMT

Working with refridgeration system on a sailboat and I am wondering what
to do about not being able to get R12 or R22 without a special permit which
requires the ability to recapture when pumping down the system.  Is there a
replacement which does not require a serviceman?  I have a basic rule about
not putting things on my boat I can't fix...


David Zielke
'Botany Bay'
Cal 35 Hull 006

zielke@fozzie.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: heon@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (garry.j.heon)
Subject: Re: Bayliner myths: a challenge
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:42:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.130206.24082@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jadams@vixen.uucp (26070-adams) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.202114.17062@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, rbaist@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (robert.t.baist) writes:
> 
> Oh yes, thank God that no one was hurt, except for the skipper's pride
> which, based on my discussion with him, could use it!

GOOD FOR HIM.  Up here where the shrewsbury river and navesink river
meet we have a place called rocky point.  Several people seem to find 
this spot too even though its WELL marked.  Good for them.  I don't
get it, no wake means no wake, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Speaking of rocky point, a friend of mine, who owns a tug, got a call
from L of L who wanted to know if he pulled Lady Anna
of of rocky point 1 week before she sank 86 miles off of Cape May NJ.
It seems divers found a fractured weld on her.
Last I heard L of L plans to spend $2mil to raise her.

Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Quentin Robert DeNameland)
Subject: Re: blow_____ (boats)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:34:00 GMT

In article <1365@niktow.canisius.edu>, pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov) writes...
>     I think that you blow guys are missing the boat, so to speak.  See, you
>     want to HEAR your beautiful engines ROAR.  

I thought the other guy was calling raghaulers 'blow boats'

Tom O'Toole - ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer 
Homewood Computing Facilities, Johns Hopkins University, Balto. Md. 21218 
> * OLX 2.1 * ease!Trim!eeeaaaassse!trimtrimTRIMeeeeeeeaaaaaasse!trimea
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: STU@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: 2 batteries -- how?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:31:04 GMT

I've been running a 2 battery setup on the Shearwater since '85 - in a
unique blend of economy and reliability.  My house battery is an 8d - the
biggest thing I can fit on the boat.  It runs my icebox conversion, water
pump, anchor light and all the other electronics for a weekend without
charging.  Longer trips obviously require some engine time - about 2 hours
per day is enough with my stock 40 amp alternator.
 
The 8Ds are stock truck batteries - I use Interstate because they are
available.  The first one lasted nearly 5 years ($125) and still held
charge for almost a day with the ice box on!  I'm on the second one now.
 
For a backup/starting battery, I connected a fairly large (26?) gel cell.
It seldom gets used - bought it in '86 and it still starts the engine even
when I've been off shore for 2 days and it is very cold.  I never, never,
never use it for anything but backup starting.  I only charge it by float
charging on the built in battery charger (13.8-14.0 V).
 
There is no connection between the two batteries.
 
 
Rational:  Reliability, cost and efficiency.
 
Reliability:  The manufacturer's wiring is unchanged.  Pearson did a
reasonable job and I haven't made it worse.
 
Cost:  At $125 every five years plus a $200 one time charge for the gel cel
(it will last "forever": if it isn't used), the combination is cheap.
 
Efficiency:  An 8d takes a charge faster, holds it better and is more
efficient than two switched batteries with an isolator.
 
 
My 2 cents worth.   /Stu
From: fletch@spf.trw.com (Fletcher Riggs)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: 2 batteries -- how?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:13:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: TRW Sensor Data Processing Center, Redondo Beach, CA

In article <24827@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Stuart) writes:
>From an electronics engineer's point of view...
>
[omitted a very good description of battery charging systems and isolators]

Thank you.  I needed this.  I was becomming alarmed as everything I had
learned (and believed!) from books (I am not an EE) up to this point was
being questioned and discarded in this news group.

>In my opinion, this gadget is a waste of money and alternator/engine
>power.  Any boater with salt water in his veins can certainly rotate
>the knob of a battery switch to allow parallel (or alternate, as
>suggested by one post in this group) charging.  By not installing this
>gadget, proper battery charging is assured to the battery/batteries
>switched on line, there is one thing less to go wrong on the boat, the
>alternator does a better job of supplying power, and money is saved.

Perhaps one more plug for diodes.  At least one across your battery selector
switch to one of your batteries could keep your mind at rest as you send a
guest down to switch batterys will the alternator is running.  An
inadvertent switch to the OFF position could couse problems without this
protection.

-- 
fletch@spf.trw.com 
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: wes@ian.stx.com (John S.)
Subject: Re: Sailboats
Organization: STX, Lanham Maryland
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:16:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.200948.874@Armstrong.EDU> newso584@Armstrong.EDU (Robert Newsome) writes:
>Hi!  This question may seem naive, but I am a beginning boater and reader to
>rec.boats.  I have been thinking about whether to purchase a sailboat or a
>motorboat.  I think that I would like to have a sailboat, but I would like to
>hear some advantages/disadvantages of one over the other.
[...]
>-Robert
>

Would you compare snow-skiing to snowmobiling? They're different sports,
altogether. Maybe you'll want to do both (and if you're rich, you can
afford to!)
   
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