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From: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Nov. 4th AmigaNetwork meeting
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:53:11 GMT
Reply-To: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <Bx935D.43C@news.udel.edu> don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes:
>      Two high-res many-colored (looked like 256 or HAM-8) animations were
	HAM8.
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From: pjotr@ludd.luth.se (Peter Sj|str|m)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000/030? (was Future Entertainment Show, London)
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:28:08 GMT
Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd

In <1992Nov10.150452.27734@zds-oem.zds.com> benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com (Adam Benjamin) writes:

>AND for different processors (030/040) 

	Actually it says 030/040/Other. Why doesn't anyone react!?! :)
I sure would like to see that 'Other'!

		/Peter
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How to transfer a file larger than a diskette from IBM
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:04:50 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <4172@sicsun.epfl.ch> <1992Nov5.050805.9341@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>
  <1992Nov5.115950.24305@gbrmpa.gov.au> <1992Nov11.111027.6541@artcom.de>

>matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov5.050805.9341@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> ajft@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz
.
>au writes:
>>>--
>>>OK, you have an enormous file, and a number of 720k MS-DOS disks, and an Ami
g
>a.
>>>The maximum available space on a 720k disk is 730112 bytes (713 * 1024)
>>>
>>>There are several ways to split data files, it all depends on where (and how
)
>>>you wish to do it:
>>>
>>>if the large file "huge.lzh" is on a PC already, I'd recommend the utility
>>>bsplit
>
>>I wouldn't recommend it. Just use backup on the PC (part of msdos),
>>and restore the disks with the PD Program "PC Restore", amiga.physik.unizh.ch
>>has this utility.
>
>Another possibility is to use Splitz&Joinz. These come with the ADPro-package
>as executables for Amiga, MS-DOS, Windows and Mac. You can split large files/

[some info about how it works deleted]

>But ... you need to buy ADPro.

Not actually.  They made Splitz and Joinz freely distributable but retain
copyright.

>>Matt Crowd - Systems Support - Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority - AUS
>>Voice +61 77 818825, Fax +61 77 726093, email matt@gbrmpa.gov.au

>Hope this helps.
>    /\            Nikolai Luckow Design - Animation & Video
>   /  \  /\       email: niko@artcom.de
>  /    \/  \      or: nikolai@netmbx.netmbx.de
> /     /    \
>/            \   "... he was not quite sure what to do next.
>\________     \___But he would think of something." (A.C.Clarke)
>

-Joel
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From: unseen@mcl.ucsb.edu (Roger Wilco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Winners of a4000 contest?
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:44:56 GMT

In <1992Nov8.232445.4011@memstvx1.memst.edu> langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston) writes:


>  Will someone from C= be announcing the winners of the 'Win an a4000' 25
>words or less contest here on the net next week?  I know the winner is to be
>announced on the 15th, but would someone be kind enough to post a list of
>the winners here, also?

For that matter, does anyone know when the winners of the Amiga World 
Animation Video Contest will be notified/announced? When does the video
come out?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jannek@phoenix.oulu.fi (Janne Tuomas Kiiskila)
Subject: Redirected output
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:45:07 GMT


	Does anyone know a method or program, that allows me to
	redirect any output to the window AND file or printer?
	You see I've got to this program for the university
	and they want some testmaterial printed. Everything
	the program puts out (plain text) and everything the
	user writes should be redirected. Thanks in advance!


	-------------------------------------------------------------
	- Janne Kiiskila at Oulu university, jannek@phoenix.oulu.fi -
	-------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Ronny G. Nordvik <edorn@alf.uib.no>
Subject: Demo Scene
Organization: Edb-senteret, UiB
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:05:41 GMT


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From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:30:14 GMT

marvil@lysator.liu.se (Martin Vilcans) writes:


>>For myself, I see most of the champions of the pirating and
>>non-pirating as self righteous pigs.  What is legal does not
>>have anything to do with what is moral, and indeed is often
>>opposed to what is moral.

>Yes, what is legal doesn't have anything to do with what is moral,
>and vice versa, but don't say that most things that are legal
>are imoral. Brushing your teeth isn't illegal, and it isn't
>imoral. Software piracy is illegal, and it is immoral.

I didn't.  Please re-read.

>OK, let's say you've built a wooden table and a few chairs,
>which you have in your garden. The next night, someone comes
>and steal the outdoor furniture. That's not a moral thing to do,
>right? It's about the same thing when stealing software, the
>programmer has put blood, sweat and tears into his work, and
>perhaps he wants to have something back for that? So, it IS
>immoral to steal his software.

Well, it just so happens that I agree that stealing outdoor
furniture is immoral.  Also, I appreciate all of the work that
a software developer puts into his/her product.  But does that
obligate me to buy it?  Let us just say, for example, that I
never use the product.  Should I buy it just because some 
fellow has worked hard on it?  Of course not.  I can attest to
the fact that I would use very little software if I had to
pay for it.  The price of the software compared the the price
I'm willing (and able) to pay is much greater than unity.

So, if I would under no circumstances buy the software, and I
have already shown that just because a product is good a person
cannot be forced to buy it, then what damage am I doing?  None,
provided I don't spread it to others who ARE potential buyers.

Like I've said before, it is impossible to compare software with
other irreproduceble products.  Music is an excellent example
which I gave in my original posting, yet why did you choose to
switch to outdoor furniture?  That's apples and oranges.

Scotty AJ


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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: I found a pirate - what shall I do?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:23:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162205.26136@ra.msstate.edu>, jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:

 >    Pirates and virus writers both.
[quoting kept to a minimum - happy now?]

Speaking of virus writers, has anyone read CU digest #4.56?  There's a very
interesting article there from one of 'them'...  (I'll post it to anyone who's 
interested and can't get it any other way).

-Eyvind

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From: mjw+@cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Word Perfect
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:36:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.UeyJi7600hsBJ672k6
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.misc: 4-Nov-92 Re: Word Perfect
Lloyd Sumpter@mindlink.b (1172)

>   In the order of 100,000 or so, I would guess. The difference? The NeXT is
> perceived as a serious machine, and vitually all are possible Word Perfect
> owners. There are many more Amiga users, but fewer SERIOUS Amiga users (at
> least that's the perception).
>    One other point: it's trivial to re-compile their Unix code to run on the
> NeXT.

I doubt that either of these are particularly true.  From the NeXT
owners I've seen on campus (and there are quite a lot), they are fairly
much the same as the owners of expensive amigas: technophiles.  I'm
certain that there are more amiga users who purchase `productivity'
software than there are NeXT users. Your comments about perception are
correct though. And there is one reason for this, and one reason only,
and it has been stated ad nauseum: Advertising*

On the second port,  the NeXT machine uses Display Postscript as its
default imaging model. The Unix machines run X. Now, you can run X on a
NeXT, but that sort of defeats the purpose, and porting an X program to
DPS has got to be at least as difficult as porting it to Intuition.

michael
(speaking of porting to intuition, I have a program that runs on both X
and the Amiga, all it took to port it was some #defined macros to change
the orders of arguments to, and the names of, the calls to graphics
library routines. X and the amiga graphics library are not terribly
different  at the imaging level, at least for simple tasks. It was
certainly easier than making the program output postscript was.

ON THE OTHER HAND
it would be very nice if intuition provided a public screen running
display postscript, or display postscript within windows, because then
these programs that people have (for no apparent commercially
justifiable reason) ported to the NeXT, could run trivially on the
amiga. DPS is also, in many ways, a nicer imaging model than X. 
Actually, I'm kind of surprised that noone has done a PD DPS
implementation for the amiga yet.

* this is a foot note that  belongs with the other asterisk:
There was a sign on the wall of the Clinton campaign headquarters that
said "It's the economy, stupid!". The correspoding sign on the wall of
C= headquarters should read "It's advertising, stupid". On a similar
note, all three campaigns spent a total of around $1000000 on
advertising on CNN. That came to an awful lot of ads for not much money.
It's the right place to tell people that the amiga is a serious
computer. (yes, this is out of place, but it is a footnote: forgive me).
From: jmb0389@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.M. Bail )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: My GVP A500-HD+ is making some super-mega-weird noises!
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:56:39 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: jmb0389@ultb

In article <syuyTB6w165w@amigans.gen.nz> batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson) writes:
>My GVP A500-HD+ is making some super-mega-weird noises!  Well, it IS!
> 
>It will be going perfectly find for ages, then every so often, it sounds 
>like the speed of the fan or something slows down, then speeds up again.  
>Sounds weird, and makes me very nervous. :)  Anyone know whats wrong with 
>my little HD?
>
>--                                                                    
>     Kerry Emerson.  User: `Darknight Si'  UUCP: Batman@amigans.gen.nz
>      Co-SysOp of Silent Imperium: +64 06 3471763 2400bps (24 HOURS)  
>     Home:  19B Somerset Road, Wanganui, New Zealand. +64 06 3446499. 
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Kerry-
    I had the same problem. I kept getting these strange errors on my
drive. Eventually I became fed up because I couldn't back up my HD and
the errors re-appeared even when I reformatted the drive. GVP tech
support told me that the speed of the drive was changing with the fan
so the data was being written at different speeds. He told me to send
the whole thing in, and in about a week and a half they sent me back an
entire new drive, which is working just fine. I suggest backing
everything up immediately if you still can. If not, use a program like
fixdisk to salvage what you can (that is what I ended up doing. I was
able to retrieve everything but a few fonts, I was pretty lucky). On a
related topic, what are the chances of me messing up this drive again if
I have really loud base which makes the table kinda pulse?
 
               Jeff
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Apples and Oranges
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:29:23 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu


         Apples                        Oragnes
----------------------------------------------------------
        Fruit                           Fruit
	Round				Round
        Nice warm color                 Nice warm color
	juicy				juicy
Not good when used as a replacement for sports eqipment (ie Baseballs).
	Enjoyed by many people		Enjoyed by many people



Sorry, I just coulnd pass this oportunity up. :-)

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
At: University of Minnesota, Duluth
From: Eric_J_Rainbolt@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Jugglerdemo
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:35:21 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

When I bought my first Amiga in 86 I remebered that juggler
demo.  A ray-traced animation.  If anyone knows where I can get
another copy, or other similar demos, tell me the FTP sites.

If anyone can do me the service of uploading it somewhere, it would
be immensley appreciated.

Eric J Rainbolt
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From: lwahl@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Lynne K Wahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Another Amiga Sighted On TV!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 00:18:08 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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abend@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (dan edward abend) writes:

>I notcied that there is a show on the new Sci/Fi channel that is produced as
>a sort of Public Access show like Mystery Science 2000 style.  It is called
>"Mysteries from beyond the ..(something).."  They used Amigas and the Video
>Toaster 2.0 to do wipes, fades, and disolves.  It was very obvious.  And,
>in the credits they mention ASDG.  I assume they used ASDG's morpher for
>their intro.

>Dan Abend
>Editor/Publisher AMIGAphile
>For the user, by the user

The show is "Mysteries from Beyond the Other Dominion", produced by 
Universal Studios.  There is an article in the "Topeka Capital-Journal"
about our home-grown vidio product (Yup, Kansas produces more than wheat)
staring a product called "Y/C Plus" by Larry Heilman and Gary Krohe that
sells for about $950. It has something to do with enhancing the vidio 
picture during the editing process and eliminating "dot crawl"
It says their product and the toaster is used also in the upcoming 
NASA movie "Mission: Planet Earth"

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: I found a pirate - what shall I do?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 20:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.123724.541@gbrmpa.gov.au>, matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt) writes:
 > In article <BxAHL9.B7@brunel.ac.uk> cs90rol@brunel.ac.uk (Richard O Lavey) writes:
 > >Obviously computer s/ware can't be copied quite as easily, but it's still possible.
 > 
 > Yeah, right. It takes me 1min20sec to copy a disk, and about 1hour to copy a CD.
 > 
 > When you get 200 DMS'd disks on a tape, it's even more convenient.
 > 
 > I feel sorry for people who pay for software, 95% of stuff I come across is
 > a load of crap! It's only a select few programs, the ones people have been
 > raving about, are the ones worth UnDMS'ing and looking at.

I feel I have to warn you...  You're dead.  People on THIS group do not tolerate
that kind of talk...  I'd flame ya, but I couldn't do that to a dying man.

:)

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 > Voice +61 77 818825, Fax +61 77 726093, email matt@gbrmpa.gov.au
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From: oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Subject: Re: Version 3.0 and speech
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1992Oct29.093019.29519@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
	<1992Oct30.024052.19811@ncsu.edu> <36612@cbmvax.commodore.com>
	<oey6N6C00hsB92iWdW@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: 06 Nov 92 19:28:28 GMT

In article <oey6N6C00hsB92iWdW@cs.cmu.edu> mjw+@cs.cmu.edu (Michael Witbrock) writes:

   I recently had a chance to look at a 4000 (and its manuals). There is no
   mention of speech, anywhere. No narrator device.... nothing. Speech toy
   2.0 doesn't work.

   The question: What happened? is this a temporary abberation, or a
   permanent mistake. 
   If the latter: what happened to the concern for compatibility. I *USE*
   several programs that use speech - will I lose these if I get a new
   machine?

What I have heard is that translator.library and narrator.device are/were 
licenced technology, and Commodore decided to drop it, as there seemed not to
be much use for it.
As for the programs that use it, you can copy narrator and translator from
older system disks to 3.0 systems. I'm 99% sure they work, and assuming you
keep your older system as a games machine or something, you aren't even
pirating any software, since you have a legal copy of it. Probably two or three
copies, in fact, if you have been using Amigas for a longer time...
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This article does not necessarily represent anyone's opinions, not even mine.
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From: stephadj@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Daniel Stephans)
Subject: Where to get a DYNAMIC HI-RES viewer for the 3000
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:13:08 GMT

Anyone know where I can find such a beast?  v1.4 does not match the
internal timing of the 3k.  The only way I can look at dyna-res
pics is with hamlab and it is too slow.  Thanks in advance.

			Dan


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|          Morris               |    --Me                             |
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From: "carl bannenberg" <carl.bannenberg@canrem.com>
Subject: 1.3 and a1200
Reply-To: "carl bannenberg" <carl.bannenberg@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 4 Nov 92 23:43:53 EST


To Dave Haynie, George Robbins, or Dr Peter Kittel

Is it possible to put a 1.3 ROM (with rom switcher) in a A1200?

Before anyone flames me, the user group I belong to would like to
upgrade from 1.2 A500's to either the A600 or A1200. However we will
still need to remain compatible with 1.3 only PD software. We would be
able to use the rom switcher on a A600, but the A1200 sounds like a
better deal.

Carl.Bannenberg@canrem.com
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From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: Have Nintendo bought Commodore Amiga ???
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:44:23 GMT
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Organization: Universitt Bielefeld, Technische Fakultt

In article <17379@mindlink.bc.ca> Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca (Manjit Bedi) writes:
> I cannot remember where I read it but Nitendo and Microsoft have been having
> private meetings.  Nitdendo apparently is looking at making the NES's into
> more of a personal computer somehow.


 GameBoy-NT ? :)

> --
>         Manjit Bedi
>                 ( Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca or manjit@inde.bc.ca )
> 

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From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Floptical...
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:20:59 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Someone is selling me his old internal drive, because
he is replacing it with a floptical drive..

This sounds interesting, and I would like some more information
on floptical drives, such as:

	Storage capacity
        Ease of use
	Speed of use
	Size [physical]
	Controllers
	and of course price!


Thanks,

  Scotty AJ
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From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
Summary: Coredump replaced by Guru
Keywords: coredump, guru
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:58:32 GMT

In article <BxL1K6.CnG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>
>Just a question.. why don't Amigas coredump like UNIX?  

Because it gives you a nice guru telling you the Why and the Where 

>Why do they instead crash messily and reset?  

Because its not guarantied that your data is safe. 

>Basically, I'm asking.. what allows a
>UNIX to coredump, and relativeily, what does Amiga LACK that won't let
>it coredump w/o crashing?

It doesnt lack nothing, it was a design decision of the OS to do this.
(But MP wold be usefull)

Bye
  Matija
>Sam Hulick          | "You can't discover new oceans unless you have the
>shulick@indiana.edu | courage to lose sight of the shore."  --Anon.


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