HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwyer@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Matthew Dwyer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: one year olds (Thanks)
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:06:13 GMT
	<1992Sep28.164810.21622@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
Reply-To: dwyer@zoo.cs.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst.
In-reply-to: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com's message of 28 Sep 92 16:48:10 GMT

I second the motion for Duplos. 

You should know that many of the Lego sets have very small pieces
that could be easily swallowed.  The smallest Duplo piece is still a mouthful.

Duplo can interoperate with Lego, so an investment in Duplo is not
a dead end when your child outgrows them (if she ever does).  

I noticed an interesting development in my son's play with Duplo.
At first he built mostly in 1 dimension, i.e., he stacked the 4-square
pieces.  After mastering stacking, and learning some
height limits, he built in 2 dimensions.  When we play together
I try to build in 3 dimensions, he didn't really do this on his own
until we bought a base for building Duplo (I don't remember the
actual name of it).  Its a square sheet of thin plastic with the positive
bumps on one side, and I recommend it once your child gets to the
building stage. 

matt
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.wanted,seattle.forsale
From: tbachman@hamline.edu (Toni Bachman)
Subject: Ritilin
Organization: Hamline University, St. Paul, MN.
Distribution: regional
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:24:14 GMT

Hello:

Well, today we took the big plunge and started our middle child on ritilin.
He has been diagnosed with ADD and we have tried other things to no avail.
I am interested in receiving information from other people who have had
experience in using this or other medications for ADD or ADHD - I would
also like to request your permission to include this info in the FAQ file
I keep.

I am particularyly interested in finding out what things to look for and
how it has been helpful or unhelpful to your child(ren) or friends.

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Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.sex
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 17:11:26 -0400 
From: Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Female "Circumcision"
	<1992Sep30.224248.19095@cs.rose-hulman.edu>

On 30-Sep-92 in Re: Female "Circumcision"    
user Brian C. Siener@NeXTwork writes:
> 
>In article <2739@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> bunny@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Marsh) writes:
>> 
>> I need some serious help, please...
>> 
>> My husband and I are definitely not interested in producing a child
>> at this point in our lives (if ever) but we *do* desire to raise a
>> child who might not have a decent life otherwise.  We've begun 
>> researching African adoptions (PLEASE, *no flames* about interracial
               ^^^^^^^
>> families' problems!  We're prepared for that!!) and the scariest
>> thing we've encountered, aside from the possibility that our child
>> may have AIDS (prescreening is not 100% effective), is that she may
>> have been "circumcised".

******lots of discussion on circumcision deleted********** 

>> I just want a healthy little girl who'll be able to live a good life
>> without serious years of counseling to survive in this culture.  We
>> do, BTW, plan to keep her African name and give her a middle name and
                             ^^^^^^^
>> let her choose when she's older.  She'll probably be approximately
>> 4-5 years old when we get her, age can't be too specific.  We're
>> possibly going to get a child from Malaysia and we won't have any clear
                                      ^^^^^^^^
>> details on the adoption for another 4 mos. (we need to be screened,
>> approved by the Malaysian gov't, select a transporter, wait for HIV
>> testing, etc, etc.).
>> 
>> All help is *much* appreciated.
>> 
>> Tracy Flynn-Marsh

******Brian's response deleted coz it's not related**************

Has the Malay's Peninsula moved across the Indian Ocean to Africa's Continent?
How come I've not heard of that news? Just how many tug ships needed to move
that monster? How did Thailand react to the loss of a portion of their land?
Did they heave a sigh of relief now that they do not need to build a canal in
Kra now that the Peninsula has considerately moved themselves out of the way?
And is Malacca Strait is gone now? Enquiring mind wants to know.

Please Ma'am, try to get the geography correct at least. Malaysia is in South-
East Asia, just right on top of Singapore. There is no way it is located in
Africa. 

Richard

From: ivy@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Ivy Griffiths)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:36:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Baby refusing bottle
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

A woman in my mother's class was trying to go back to work, and her baby
wouldn't take a bottle.  They tried for 3 days, and finally in desparation,
her husband put the bottle in an athletic sock, and the baby focussing
on the sock stripes didn't notice it was a bottle, and was so hungry that
once the bottle was in her mouth, she downed it.  I don't know if they had
any trouble after that, but I think it was a super smart idea.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Subject: Re: How to get daughter more career-minded?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:43:11 GMT

In article <1a7qusINNfr7@gap.caltech.edu> floom@cco.caltech.edu (Laura E. Floom) writes:
>pub@riscee.pko.dec.com (Publius) writes:
>
>>We have a 4 years old daughter who is really bright.  Her preschool
>
>[article deleted]
>
>>Any suggestion for us to turn the things around?  
>
>Yes, just let her be. She is only 4 years old, and it isnt like she needs to
    
Well don't let her be entirely. Make sure that she gets enough positive
reinforcement that she can be a doctor, police officer, etc. if she wants to
be. Just don't ram you own choice down her throat.
   
>I found your post sad. I see a harmful trend starting between you and your
>daughter. I realize sometimes on the net, things get posted that are really
>not as they seem. It is easy to write about one facet of your life, and to
>the net they may seem more important then they are. Maybe you are not going
>to be an incredibly pushy parent. I hope so! If this post really is indicative
>of your attitude, you may want to seriously consider your position it your
>daughters life. YOu wont have nearly as much control as you wish, and you
>wont make your life, or your daughters very pleasant by pushing it.  

Lighten up, lady.

Xref: sparky misc.kids:25024 alt.sex:31725
From: rickc@agora.rain.com (Rick Coates)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Female "Circumcision": removal of the clitoral hood
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:25:43 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

pjself (Pamela Jayne Self) writes:


...

>I think that the person who wrote this comment is missing a very
>important point.  Removing the clitorial hood is very similar to
>regular male circumcision.  I think most people would agree to
>that.  However, circumsizing a female involves more than JUST THAT.

No, it doesn't. It can.  "Female circumcision" is a very imprecise
term.  Would you agree that removal of the clitoral hood (something
that, historically, has been advocated in the US) is something that
should be allowed, since you agree it is similar to male circumcision?


Rick
rickc@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:12:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.043926.11996@news.acns.nwu.edu> learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk) writes:
>>	For people in this boat he/she/they  *NOT* having to be the
>>	center of our attention is, in fact, the goal!!!!!!!
>
>Yep, so what you want to do is to make them the focus of attention for
>years and years, with the hope that they will dislike the treatment
>and improve. Tellya, Alan, get it over with quickly then and just
>beat them into submission. If you don't kill or destroy them in some
>other way first.
>
>I'll gladly introduce you to a 41 year old woman whose father beat her
>with a lathe belt several times a week for most of her growing years. Now
>that IS the focus of attention, wouldn't you say? I'll bet it hurt him
>a lot more than her. I'll bet he did it out of love and understanding
>how to manage her problem. Her ex-husband told me he thought her dad
>to be an honorable man..... 
>

	Who said anything about beating people?  And I suppose
	either side I took in the "Attention" issue would be wrong.

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: leeba@mot.com (Leeba Salzman)
Subject: Experiments
Reply-To: leeba@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:15:43 GMT

Last week I did an experiment with my daughter.  (She had told me that
a glass had "100 drops" in it and she knows what 100 is.)  We took an
eye dropper and squeezed out 100 drops.  When she saw how little that
really was, she was amazed.  I'm looking for some more "physical science"
type experiments, appropriate for a 5 yo, which can be done without special 
equipment.  (e.g. candle in jar to show oxygen) 

 
Thanx in advance,
I will summarize e-mail responses if there are any.
From: ICKAD@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Surevey: nicknames that have nothing to do w/ real names
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:26:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92274.092612ICKAD
Organization: Arizona State University

Re your question, Laura, my son (2-3/4 yrs. old today!) was given the name
James Brandon Davis to give him lots of options, but we call him Jamie.  My
first nickname for him was "Boo Bear", later shortened to just "Boo".  I
still call him this (as well as "Jame" sometimes), but recently I'm favoring
"Tadpole".  Why?  He *looks* like a tadpole to me :-) !  Does anyone remember
an old cartoon called "Spunky and Tadpole"?  I somehow recall that Tadpole was
a bear.

By the way, I saw a skit on the season premiere of Saturday Night Live last
Saturday that left me in stitches, because of the misc.kids long thread about
names.  In the skit, an expectant father was chatting cutely to his wife's
pregnant belly.  Then, she mentions that they really ought to be considering
a name for the baby.  She suggests all sorts of fairly common names--John,
Fred, Frank, . . . but the father vehemently rejects all of them, saying that
kids will tease him mercilessly, and then proceeds to imitate how a child
might distort the name.  The mother was wearing down, and asks him if he was
ever teased by other children about his name.

Before we can hear the answer, the doorbell rings, and a messenger announces
that he has a telegram for "Nancy and Asswipe ----- (fill in a common last
name)".  The man corrects the messenger's pronunciation of his first name and
says, "That's az-WEEP-ay."

I'm afraid I was laughing too hard to hear how the skit ended! :-)  :-)

--Jamie's Mommy (Karen Davis)
From: njamal@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Female "Circumcision"
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:30:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Sep29.113043.1
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst Mass.

In article <1992Sep28.221027.6406@funlwb.enet.dec.com>, wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales) writes:
> 
> G'Day,
> 
> isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE) writes:
> 
>>2.   Malaysia is LOCATED in Asia ( South East Asia ) ...
>>Majority of the native is Muslim .... I believe NO such operation
>>is performed !
> 
> 	Recently in Australia a Malaysian prince fled back to Malaysia with
> two children that were staying with their mother in Australia, one a boy, the
> other a girl.  One of the mother's real concerns was that her daughter would
> be circumsised.  From the reports that I heard on the radio this was quite a
> possibility.
> 
> 	The fact that the majority is Muslim reinforces the issue as it is they
> who usually perform this ghastly operation.
> 

This is simply not true.  Female circumsision is NOT a Muslim practice.
It is not practices in the Muslim Arab world and in parts of Africa where
it is practiced (e.g., Ethiopia and Eritrea in East Africa), it is
practiced by the Christian population!


> David.
> 
> -- 
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> 


Nuhad Jamal
njamal@amherst
From: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: (was:Episiotomy and Can. study) now: after delivery
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct6.190621.11822@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>, ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns) writes...
>In article <1992Oct1.145106.16897@col.hp.com> beth@col.hp.com (Beth Vail Jones) writes:
>>
>>I didn't feel the stitching going on, the episiotomy was not a big
>>problem afterwards, and having my baby in my arms made me feel a whole
>>lot better.
> 
>This is very similar to what happened with the late stages of my delivery,
>which occurred with the help of a vacuum extractor. I had even had an
>epidural, but it had been turned off (to give me more control because 
>the pushing was getting lengthy), so I'm not sure why it hurt. I did
>feel the stitching, by the way, but when they administered more local 
>anesthesia it was fine.

I've been wondering about this but was a bit reluctant to post it 
to the net since it seems awfully personal, but here goes.

After the baby is born does the vagina (and especially the 
exterior opening) really shrink to the same size it was before?
It just seems impossible that this could really happen.

I heard that with an episiotomy they sometimes (?) make the 
opening tighter than it was before?

Does this vary from person to person?

What should I expect?

- Peggy -

PS: Also, I heard do kegels, kegels, kegels before and after birth.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: davej@techbook.com (Dave J. Johnsen)
Subject: Re: Check your smoke detectors
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:26:15 GMT

In article <Bv1DE4.29s@ocsmd.ocs.com> ted@ocsmd.ocs.com (Ted Scott) writes:
>
>A good rule of thumb is to pick an anniversary to change the battery.
>
>i.e. change the clock to DST. change the smoke detector battery.
>or every christmas. Escecially if your smoke detector uses wall
>current, the battery needs to be monitored and changed. 
>
>This is a lot of insurance for about a buck!
>
>--
Our fire department recommends that rule, except they say do it on each 
change of the clock.  You can always use the still good battery for a radio
or something.  I recommend checking the horn once a week, and checking
the detector once a month, with the smoking paper routine.

Dave
>
>-Ted Scott          
>tscott@ocsmd.ocs.com           I was told that I'm a P.C. person:
>(301) 601-2252                               Politically Challenged, that is.


-- 
davej@techbook.COM  Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks  
TECHbooks is kind enough to provide me with access, I wouldn't presume  
to have their opinions.  I am not even sure I have my own!
From: irikura@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: RE: Tilted Uterus Problem
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:32:53 GMT
Organization: NIST

A friend of mine has an inverted uterus (similar?).  Her doctor suggested
that she stand on her head (or do something equivalent) after sex.  
It worked!

Good luck to her!

Karl
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: newton@convex.com (Vicki Newton)
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:57:38 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

jack went to school with a kid named albert albert.
i went to school with a kid named brian o'brien.

jack's mom was a first grade teacher for years so she has a
lot of good stories.  one of my favorites:

she taught a little girl named feh-mallie.  well, that is how
her name was pronounced.  the girls parents were immigrants who
spoke little/no english.  the little girl was born in a providence
hospital.  when the attendants wheeled the little girl in her
bassinet in to her mother's room, the mother was honored to see
that the hospital had already named her daughter!  on the i.d.
card and bracelet, she saw "<last name>, female".
From: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Giving birth under water
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:01:06 GMT
Reply-To: szakhour@next.com (Sharon Zakhour)

I suggest that anyone interested in birthing under water read "Active Birth".   
I can't remember the author -- my copy is at home.

I do know of two women in San Francisco who have given birth under water.  You  
can rent special tubs for the purpose.  This sort of birth is definitely at  
home and usually attended by a CNM (certified nurse midwife).

Maybe I'll try method this for my next child.  (If all goes well with this  
birth, I'll strongly consider a home birth for my next child.  My husband would  
have liked this one to be a home birth, but I was just a bit too chicken.)

Sharon
36 weeks today!!!
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.music.folk,rec.scouting
From: jpa@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jayne Ashworth)
Subject: Final verses to "Puff the Magic Dragon"
Originator: jpa@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: Academic Computing, U. Va.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:00:39 GMT

Some time ago I wrote asking for additional verses to
the song "Puff the Magic Dragon."  I received two
versions of the unauthorized endings and have
included both.

From Holly Hendricks

> Sender: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com ()
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:59:04 GMT
> 
> Twenty years later, Puff arose once more
> He awoke to hear the sound of knocking at his door
> His door it opened wide to show a smiling, shining face
> As little Jackie Junior came to take his father's place
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Holly Hendricks
> Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH 03062
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Yet another version:

> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:17:46 EDT
> From: Constance Royden <stanzi@aldwych.media.mit.edu>
> Subject: Extra "Puff" words
> 
> Jayne--
> 
> Here are the extra words for "Puff the Magic Dragon" as sung on the CD
> "A Family Folk Festival.  A Multicultural sing-along."  I really like
> this CD.  It has a lot of old classic children's songs (Skip to my
> Lou, My Grandfather's Clock, Puff, etc) and some good new ones, sung
> by such artists as Pete Seeger, Maria Muldaur, Sweet Honey in the Rock
> and others.
> 
> These two verses follow the traditional ending after a musical
> interlude:
> 
> Jackie he got married, and they had a little babe.
> Jackie's daughter Sophie went adventuring one day.
> Happily she wandered down the misty beach alone.
> And passing by a hidden cave, she heard a muffled groan.
> 
> Bravely Sophie slipped into the place where Puff did dwell.
> The startled dragon spun around and frightened her as well.
> Then she saw his lonely eyes, and quickly lost her fears.
> She kissed the dragon's scaly nose and wiped away his tears.
> 
> Chorus: 
> Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea
> and frolicks in the autumn mist in a land called Hona Lee.
> Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea
> and frolicks in the autumn mist in a land called Hona Lee.
> 
> Note the use of the present tense in the final chorus.
> 
> --Stanzi
From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Halloween party ideas wanted
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:55:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <cekmS2K00WAyIOfq5D@andrew.cmu.edu> mh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu 
(Mary Hart) writes:
>I told my boys that this year we would have a Halloween party.  (we had
>one few years back, and each year since, someone has invited all of us
>to one.)
>
>My boys are 4 & 8, and I'm envisioning that each will invite  3-4
>friends, and some of my younger son's friends moms or dads will probably
>end up staying, so I won't be doing this by myself.

Halloween parties are the most fun!!  (Especially for kids!)
Make your atmosphere just as spooky and Halloweeny as you can.
I can remember parties I attended as a kid.  One of the best
was in a basement.  They had "spider webs", bales of straw,
jack-o-lanterns lit with lightbulbs (for safety)....  skeletons,
ghosts, scarecrows...

You should definitely give prizes for costumes.  Best, scariest,
funniest, most original, craziest, etc.  Make sure each kid gets
a prize!

A "guess what's in the box" game could be played.  Have a big
black box decorated with stars, glitter, whatever.  Have a
hole a child's hand will fit into, and have the children reach
in one at a time and try and identify what they feel.
Plastic spiders & worms, something hairy, wet spaghetti, etc.

Something fun people were making here last year is a "spook hand".
Make it with a clear "food-handler" glove.  You use candy corn
for the "fingernails", and fill the rest of the glove with white
popcorn.  

If you have an instant Polaroid camera, it might be fun to
take their pictures while they are bobbing for apples (someone
else suggested this, and it is always fun) and give to each child.

Some prizes might be books about Halloween, stickers, decorated
cookies, small decorative plastic Halloween pumpkins, popcorn
balls, Halloween decorated pencils, etc.

A treasure chest (guarded by a pirate) is always fun.
If you have an old chest of some kind or can use some
kind of box...  Fill it with those foamy packing "worms"
and mix in trinkets... plastic bracelets, rings, beads,
small toys, etc.  Use a pie plate (like panning for gold)
and let each child scoop up a plate full and see what treasures
they have found.

Well, have a good party!! 

Good luck!

-Nancy S.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: No Santa Claus ???
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:41:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.181734.14834@bcrka451.bnr.ca> seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson) writes:
>> 
>The 'ruining of fun' risk is one of the main reasons why we do not
>tell our kids that Santa is a real person--we want them to trust us
>to tell them the truth.

This echoes my feelings.  When I first heard the ugly rumor that there
was no Santa, I went to the one person in the world I trusted more than
anyone - my mother - to find out the ultimate truth.

My mother lied.  And sadly enough, it wasn't the last one she told
me and it started me out on a lifetime of doubting her.

A few years ago, my own son came to me with that look of trust and
asked me if there was really a Santa.  Since he was old enough to be
seeking the truth, I felt he was old enough to be told the truth.

In my mother's case, with me being the youngest, having me learn the
truth about Santa would mark the passing of that tradition forever for
her, so she did what she could for herself.

-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
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