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From: lindaj@solbourne.com (Linda Weygant)
Subject: what's that song??
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:20:29 GMT

Amy@Chaos.cs.brandeis.edu asks 
	What's that song that goes:

		I'm the one who wants to be with you
		Deep inside I hope you feel it too
		Etc, Etc, Etc.

	Great choice of music, Amy.  That song is "To Be With You" by Mr. Big

	They've played at a club here in Denver called Bangles and boy were they
hot!!!!!  I've heard that they were supposed to go on tour as the opening act
for somebody but forgot who.  I hope they come by Denver again!!
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:22:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Sep3.162444.26732@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgunders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Gunderson) writes:
>In article <la5aghINNqvu@news.bbn.com> hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
>>Foetus has a show that more bands should strive for.  Act as though you are  
>>unequivocally far superior to everyone present--be a complete ass; you are,  
>>after all, the show--who likes to watch boring people stand in one place and  
>>stare at their instruments, even if the music IS really good?
>
>    I was thinking about what constitutes a good lead person in a band
>the other day... my conclusion was basically that the ultilmate lead
>person is someone who be the best, most hilarious company but the worst
>possible roommate... just like the city you'd "love to visit, but I'd
>hate to live there".
>
>- Mark G.
>

Excellent description of many of the 'front-persons' I've worked with.
The best always seem to be the kind of people you wanted to see at
practise and gigs, but hoped to never run into between-times.
Hmmm....I've 'fronted' quite a few bands, and have been told I'm quite
good...maybe *that's* why the other guys always 'avoided' me, huh?

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and no longer wondering why they don't return my calls)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: marck@nwu.edu (Jater & Co.)
Subject: help:  A phone number
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: NU ACNS
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:57:34 GMT

does anyone out there have a music magazine handy with a phone number for
Aiwa, Inc. -- the makers of audio products?

i've been trying to pin down the Aiwa ADF 810 tape deck for some time now. 
problem is that it's too high end for most consumer places to carry it, and
since it's a consumer model the professional places don't carry it.

so i'm gonna call Aiwa and ask THEM where to buy it.  (i've been trying to
work with Illinois Audio, who do carry it OCCASIONALLY, but they're being
such royal goobers about the whole thing that it just ain't worth it to me
...)

btw, when i finish putting together this home recording studio in a few
weeks, i'm going to post the results of the experience i had getting
equipment.  it should give you a good idea of stores where i had success.

e-mail, please.

mlb

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From: joncon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon Connolly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Insurance for Working Musicians?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:57:54 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server




A while back, I remember reading something about insurance for musicians.
I'm not sure if it he/she was talking about renter's insurance or
not.

I am in need of getting some insurance on my equipment.  I do realize
that any of the renter's insurance I have heard about specifically 
requires that you do not make any money with any of the equipment
you are insuring.  In other words, it all must be for your own
private use such as a hobby.  Since I do make money with my stuff
I'm wondering what kind of insurance there is available to me and
how much it is ( ball park figures ).  And if anybody is insured 
this way if they have any tips, experiences, warnings, etc. to share.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Jon Connolly

(415) 857-2914
(415) 344-0708
From: bert@iti.org (Bert Still)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: marshall jmp-1 preamp ?
Summary: i liked the prototype, what about the "real thing"?
Keywords: opinions, availability
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:03:31 GMT


back in january, i had the opportunity to hear a demo of the marshall
jmp-1 midi preamp.  the demo consisted of a guitarist playing a medley
of tunes through a jmp-1 (with a korg a3 in the effects loop "to
provide only chorus and reverb") and then into a marshall 9005 power
amp (50 watts per side rackmount tube amp).  quite frankly, i was very
impressed, and i have been sort of watching and waiting to see one
appear in a store where i could play with it myself.  but, so far that
hasn't happened.  i have seen the jmp-1 advertised in some of the mail
order catalogs (e.g., musician's friend), but i am still wondering
about the availability of the product.  perhaps more to the point, i
am curious about the reliability of the unit (assuming that marshall
have encountered production problems, then there must be a reason --
the 30th anniversary combos are ubiquitous).

any opinions or comments about the beastie?


bert

--
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   bert still, numerical math group, lawrence livermore national laboratory
  (510) 423-7875, still1@llnl.gov,  postdoc/mathematician/sometimes musician
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From: daver@felix.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Re: acoustic pianos versus digital pianos/keyboards
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:52:21 GMT
Reply-To: daver@fritz.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Organization: Costa Mesa, CA

I wrote (regarding resonance in a piano):
>> The slight amount that remains
>> is probably "bad" in terms of an ideal instrument, but through con-
>> ditioning over the years, a certain amount has become interpreted as
>> "good", because even the most expensive acoustic instruments will ex-
>> hibit this "defect" to some degree.

In article <122130080@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes:
>Hogwash - a piano wouldn't be a piano without it.  It is in all respects
>"good".

Exactly my point.  A piano is a piano because of all its non-ideal charac-
teristics.  If one were to design a musical instrument that was polyphonic
(like a piano) but that only produced the desired fundamentals and their
harmonics, and suppressed all other emissions 100%, I would consider such
an instrument "ideal", but it would not be a piano, and would not sound
like a piano.  If you LIKE the sound of a piano, you would declare the
output of such an instrument "not as good" as a piano.  On the other hand,
if your entire musical experience was obtained using such an instrument,
the first time you heard a piano you would very likely notice many of
the imperfections in the sound it produces, and thus declare the piano to
be "not as good."

Dave
From: z3kpw@TTACS1.TTU.EDU ("Wheeler, Kevin")
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: how much to charge and another question
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:25:00 GMT

Hi.  I've been doing 4-track recordings of local "alternative" type bands
for about 3 years now and have figured out how to get some decent-sounding
stuff on tape.  Up 'till now I've been doing it all for free but I'm getting
asked to do quite a bunch of stuff now and it'd help a lot for gas and all
if I was getting a little monetary compensation.
So I'm wondering what a reasonable charge would be to do a tape of say
4-8 or so songs, like a demo or an EP.
I've got a Tascam Porta II 4-track, a good TEAC mixdown deck and a couple
of good Shure mics that I use.  When I record a band, I just go to wherever
they have the drums set up and record there.
The finished stuff is pretty comparable to... say mid '80s 8-track indie
label material, sound quality-wise.
So anyhow, I don't wanna rip anybody off and I enjoy doing this pretty much,
but I'm getting busy with a lot of other things (school, my band, etc.) and
can't really be spending all my spare time recording other bands for nothing.
Any suggestions, please?

Also, my band has recently finished a demo/tape/EP/whatever and I'm wondering
if it's ok to advertise on some of the Usenet subs?  It's just $3 post-paid,
is anybody gonna be yelling "Internet Prime Directives" at me for some
reason?

Thanks.
Kevin Wheeler
From: tottori@west.darkside.com (Tottori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: distribution of tapes
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:37:48 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM


i think it's a good idea if it works.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: WANTED: 8 track recorder
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:41:43 GMT

Get an ADAT!
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:52:31 GMT
Subject: Re: JOB
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

In rec.music.makers, <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

> Im gonna be moving to Florida next summer and am gonna
> be looking for a job.  I have tons of experience in
> the music industry so any suggestions would be highly
> appreciated.(Clubs, music stores, light or sound comp.,etc.)

It might be helpful if you said what it is you do, or where in Florida you are
going...
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:9230 rec.music.misc:22358 ba.music:1442 ne.jobs:825
From: mvilliar@cvbnet.prime.com (Mark Villiard x2813 5-2)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.misc,ba.music,ne.jobs
Subject: MUSICIANS WANTED!!!
Keywords: music, musician, job, band
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:41:36 GMT
Reply-To: mvilliar@cvbnet.prime.com
Distribution: ne
Organization: Computervision Corp.


I am posting this for a friend, please respond to him via e-mail or by phone...

---------------------

	I'm looking for a bass player and a drummer to complete an original

	rock band.  Backup vocal ability is very important.  We just recently

	parted with our bassist and drummer because the dedication was not

	there.  We need focused players who know what they're doing!  

	We have a reheasal space with 8 track recording for preproduction.  

	We also have people interested in shopping our music to record labels

	as soon as we reorganize the band.  Our location is 20 minutes north

	of Boston.


	Call Steve at 508 663 6587. Or email smesropi@cvbnet.PRIME.COM
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:51:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: acoustic pianos versus digital pianos/keyboards
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 15:54:09 CDT
From: John Schulien <U21187@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Where can I get a service manual for a Hammond M103 organ?

I now have a service manual on order. Thanks for all the replies!

- John

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: mgunders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Gunderson)
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:24:44 GMT

In article <la5aghINNqvu@news.bbn.com> hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom) writes:
>Foetus has a show that more bands should strive for.  Act as though you are  
>unequivocally far superior to everyone present--be a complete ass; you are,  
>after all, the show--who likes to watch boring people stand in one place and  
>stare at their instruments, even if the music IS really good?

    I was thinking about what constitutes a good lead person in a band
the other day... my conclusion was basically that the ultilmate lead
person is someone who be the best, most hilarious company but the worst
possible roommate... just like the city you'd "love to visit, but I'd
hate to live there".

- Mark G.
From: torsten@daimi.aau.dk (Torsten B. Hagemann)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: how much to charge and another question
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:26:21 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

z3kpw@TTACS1.TTU.EDU ("Wheeler, Kevin") writes:

>Hi.  I've been doing 4-track recordings of local "alternative" type bands
>for about 3 years now and have figured out how to get some decent-sounding
>stuff on tape.  Up 'till now I've been doing it all for free but I'm getting
>asked to do quite a bunch of stuff now and it'd help a lot for gas and all
>if I was getting a little monetary compensation.

I would say at least expences covered, and if you charge US$5 an hour you can't
hardly say to be unfair. Just my opinion.


>Thanks.
>Kevin Wheeler

Welcome.

Torsten
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal)
Subject: Re: Need a power amp recommendation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:14:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

Just want to second Chris Christensen's statement on the Peavey CS 800 vs. 
the CS 400.  In a month you won't miss the $100-150 but the extra capability
will be there for a long time.

The band I am in uses a CS 800 (under uses it actually) and all I can say is
that it has always works and we basicly forget about it except to turn it
on and off.
-- 
********
Opinions of John Deal at deal_j@apollo.hp.com
********
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: Studio & Midi Equipment Sale
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:27:07 GMT

>STUDIO & MIDI EQUIPMENT SALE!
>Posting for a friend without net access.  Preference is to phone
>him (Dan, 908-561-3309) with any inquiries since he has all the
>additional details and is the one to negotiate prices with.  However,
>I will attempt to forward all e-mail replies to him.

>Yamaha NS-10M Studio Monitors..................................$250

I am interested.  Get him to call me on (818) 580-7792.
There are two of them, I expect.

Myles
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.music.misc
From: mxahmad@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Mehdi Ahmadi)
Subject: Want a used YAMAHA TG33 tone genarator
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:05:52 GMT
Followup-To: Zposter



	I want to buy a used Yamaha TG33 sound module. If you have one
	collecting dust give me a call 510-823-3366. 

	Thanks


 
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:9331 rec.music.synth:14349 rec.audio.pro:1625 alt.guitar:7693
From: vermilye@Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro,alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Best price on Mackie?
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:02:25 GMT
Reply-To: vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Sep2.175822.1457@intelhf.hf.intel.com> dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com (David Covell) writes:
>
>Where can I find the best mail-order deal on a Mackie 1604 these days?

I purchased mine from Boynton Studio, Melody Pines Farm, Morris, NY 13808
for $325.00.

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>DAVID COVELL (dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com)|Wrangler of acoustic, electric, and
>INTEL FOLSOM (California)              |Midi guitars, basses, synths, CAD tools
>DESIGN ENGINEERING, EPG GROUP          |and assorted other techno-beasties



Jon R. Vermilye                          		         315 341 2138
Department of Theatre, Tyler Hall                  vermilye@oswego.oswego.edu
SUNY Oswego                                         ..rutgers!oswego!vermilye
Oswego, NY 13126                                     vermilye@snyoswva.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Need a power amp recommendation
From: schwab@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Paul Schwab)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:32:32 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Hi,

My band is looking for a new power amp to replace our 10 year old
Kustom.  We need something stereo in the range of 250 - 400 watts per
side.  I really haven't kept up on this stuff recently, so I 
would appeciate any recommendations.  

The only thing I've heard is that Carver amps draw an awful 
high current, and often blow fuses in power strips. Anyone else
have problems with Carvers? (I've heard them, and thought they
sounded really clean)

Thanks,
Paul
-- 
Paul Schwab                   		- Paul.Schwab@UC.Edu
Computer Engineer    	      		- schwab@ucbeh.BITNET
University of Cincinnati      		- pschwab@spanky.ece.uc.edu
Electrical and Computer Engineering	- uunet!uceng!pschwab
From: moon!cyberden!dbarton@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: PRESSING & MASTERING VINYL??
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:16:30 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Hi all..
 
I want to release a 12" single..
 
I have some names and #'s of pressing plants and mastering places here
in LA, but wonder if anyone has any personal experiences with any that
they could relate..
 
Any tips on why I would choose one plant or mastering lab over another?
Mastering prices vary a great deal - is there that big a difference? Any
tips would be helpful!
 
 
reply to:         moon!cyberden!dbarton@well.sf.ca.us
or      :         70531.2124@compuserve.com
 
 
Thanks!!!!!!!!!

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!dbarton@well.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Re: HOW ABOUT a REC.MUSIC.DEMO group?
Organization: Amgen Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:50:01 GMT

>I had an idea this evening that seems pretty exciting. What say we start 
>a newsgroup dedicated to promoting the distribution of demo tapes and 
>other media released by small bands and individuals?

I think that the problem here is that although I know of a bunch of 
underground tapes and can comment on them, nobody will have any
empathy with my posts until they have heard the tapes that I am 
talking about.  Therefore they will have nothing to say.  Nothing to
say = no messages.  Not a good position for a new newsgroup.

Myles
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare)
Subject: Re: Hotel California solo: who's playing?
Reply-To: soh@gdstech.UUCP (Scott O'Hare)
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.055804.1685@nntp.uoregon.edu> levitin@darkwing.uoregon.edu writes:
>Jim Lynch asks who Joe Walsh is, in the context of The Eagles. Walsh
>is considered by many to be one of the great guitarists of the 60s and
>70s.  His first group, the James Gang, out of Ohio, made some great
>guitar rock and is considered an important and influential Americn
>rock band.  One of their well=known tunes is "Funk #49."  

Another song on the original "James Gang" album, called "Tend My Garden" 
contains a cool power chord hook, which was stolen by Tom Scholz and used
as a key hook in the Boston tune "Competition" - (a pet peeve of mine...)

soh

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: REC.MUSIC.DEMO
Originator: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: too funky
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.084917.8779@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> ireland@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>Yeah, sounds like a good idea to me. REC.MUSIC.DEMO - I like that. It's
>be nice to be able to exchange promotional ideas, too.

I liked the other poster's suggestion to call the group
rec.music.promo, to cover all promotional aspects of record making,
not just demos.

I'd like to have a place where people such as myself could hook up
with songwriters that need their material demoed.  I'm primarily
looking to build studio experience in preparation for future studio
vocal work.

--gregbo
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro,alt.guitar
From: dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com (David Covell)
Subject: Best price on Mackie?
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:58:22 GMT


Where can I find the best mail-order deal on a Mackie 1604 these days?
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DAVID COVELL (dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com)|Wrangler of acoustic, electric, and
INTEL FOLSOM (California)              |Midi guitars, basses, synths, CAD tools
DESIGN ENGINEERING, EPG GROUP          |and assorted other techno-beasties
From: levitin@darkwing.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Hotel California solo: who's playing?
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:58:04 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon - Department of Psychology

Jim Lynch asks who Joe Walsh is, in the context of The Eagles.  Walsh
is considered by many to be one of the great guitarists of the 60s and
70s.  His first group, the James Gang, out of Ohio, made some great
guitar rock and is considered an important and influential Americn
rock band.  One of their well=known tunes is "Funk #49."  He has had a
sporadic solo career with some radio hits "Life's Been Good To Me So
Far") and a recent solo album on Epic.  He was with the Eagles for two
studio albums, Hotel California and The Long Run.  His guitar playing
style is distinctive.  There's a fantastic cut featuring his soloing
on the B.B. King album "LA Midnight" in which Walsh and King trade
solos with the Reverend Davis on slide.
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:15:00 GMT
Subject: Re: (related to) acoustic pianos vs. digital pianos
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

In rec.music.makers, groak@kronecker.mit.edu (Paul Gunnells) writes:

> 	This is a tangent to the earlier conversation about digital pianos,
> but after seeing that so many people were willing to discuss the issue, I 
> thought it might be a good time to solicit some advice.  My digital setup
> is a Yamaha KX88 driving a ProFormance +, and frankly I'm more than a little
> dissatisfied with the sound.  Fortunately, I know that it's not the sound
> module but rather the cheesy amp that I'm running it through

I wouldn't be so quick to absolve the ProFormance.  I've never been impressed
with the sound, and much prefer the Roland U-220 and Kurzweil (any of several
models) sounds.  In addition to simply sounding better, IMHO, they also give
you more polyphony - 30 voices for the Roland, probably 32 for the Kurzweil.
Heck, I even prefer the 16 voice Yamaha Clavinova series sounds to the
ProFormance, but as far as I know, they're not available in a module.

I'm also thinking of graduating from my trusty Roland Cube 60 keyboard
amp/speaker to a "real" sound system, although I must say the Cube has served
me well, and it has about the best sound for piano I've ever heard out of such
a small self-contained unit.  So please post any replies you get.

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marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: luthe@jach.hawaii.edu (Rusty Luthe)
Subject: Re: Peavey S-3 ?
Reply-To: luthe@jach.hawaii.edu
Organization: UK/Canada/Netherlands Joint Astronomy Centre, Hilo, HI
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:36:31 GMT

Hi,

Were you ever at intel in Rio Rancho New Mexico?

Just curious..........
Aloha,
Rusty