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From: Juhana.Rasanen@hut.fi (Juhana R{s{nen)
Subject: Japanese names & Finnish names
Organization: /u/opi/t/justus/.organization
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:11:51

There was a discussion about Japanese names for some time ago, so I
thought this might amuse you. Japanese names and Finnish names have
some similarities, mostly because almost all the syllables of Japanese
can also be found in Finnish (my Japanese teacher does belive that there's
a deeper connection between the two languages, but that is a different
subject...)

For example, there's name 'Mari', a female name both in Japan and Finland.
A perfect name for a Finnish-Japanese girl! But then there's also 'Mika',
a female name in Japan _but_ a male name in Finland... In theory, there
could be a couple, where both the wife and the husband would have exactly
the same name! And think about all those Finnish Mikas going to Japan and
Japanese Mikas coming to Finland, funny situations tend to raise...

Overall, I belive Finnish names fit in Japanese mouth quite well. Let's take
'Ari' for example: a common Finnish male name, also very often heard as a
word (or as a part of a word) in Japanese. And finally, how about my name:
in katakana one should spell it 'yu-ha-na', that's quite close to the
correct pronouciation. Last summer I met some Japanese trainees, whom I
taught my name this way: first 'yu', then I pointed at my nose and said
'hana' (nose in Japanese). To them this was quite funny and they learned
the name easily. Well, later I happened to think about kanji: 'yu' as a
kanji for liquid (like in 'sekiyu', oil) and 'hana' for nose... Not very
flattering, but funny, I must admit. I feel like one of the seven dwarfs!
(The sneezy guy, what is his name in English?)


	Gokigenyou sayonara,

		Juhana the Dwarf :-)

--
	"Never argue with a six-year-old who shaves."

		-- Calvin
From: pascal@apd.cpg.sony.co.jp (Pascal Goguey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Language
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:50:39 GMT
Organization: Sony Corporation,Communication Products Group Audio Products
	Div,Atsugi,Japan.
In-reply-to: U27876@uicvm.uic.edu's message of 20 Jan 93 05:42:43 GMT


In article <93019.234243U27876@uicvm.uic.edu> U27876@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

 *Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
 *
 *Could anyone out there teach me how to learn the Japanese language and
 *culture?  Please write to me to tell me about Japan - culture and language.

	There is a program of teacher exchange between America and
Japan. In Chicago, there are every year Japanese teachers coming from
Japan to teach at various  places, especially at Trumann College.
--
  Pascal Goguey  Sony Corporation  ($@GC9%7Z(J  $@8d7](J)
  Communication Products Group Audio Products Div
  Atsugi TEC, Japan
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:08:36 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <C17wzv.4t7@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, 
ksbeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Tere K.S. BEH) writes:
=> Sorry guys and gals.  I would like to know how can I tell by 
=> his or her name if he/she is a guy or a gal . Just curious.
=> 
=> Is there any formula for it ? 

Yes... Albert Einstein derived it in 1922.

	He = mc squared

(Sorry)
From: jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: How can the USA be more competitive (was Honda vs Ford)???
Keywords: business, media, auto, management
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:04:44 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ




 With all of the Japan blaming, and implicit employee blaming
by mentioning "workers are lazy" a zillion times more than the
PM of Japan said this in japanese, there should be some public
focus on business managment.

Management makes or  breaks a company.  Management plans the long
term strategy, and makes all the important decisions.  A good manager
can save a lot of jobs in the long run.  A good manager is invaluable.

I just think there should be more public focus and scrutiny on management
and what is taught in business school.  We should examine every avenue for
improvement, and if as some people say "that there is something wrong
with America," then if there is any truth to this, we should leave no
stone unturned.

  I have no idea what is taught
in business school.  If these subjects became common knowledge, I
believe it will result in a better informed voting public.
From: twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Truetype (Kata)kana fonts?
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:24:43 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Hi.  Does anyone know of Truetype fonts for Windows 3.1
(or the Mac) which include katakana?  A reply by E-mail
would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Tom
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From: hayri@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Aydin Hayri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Looking for professor Kazuyo Kato's current address.
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:40:08 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


  I am looking for Professor Kazuyo Kato's address, e-mail address or 
phone number.  He was at University of Tokyo, but I have heard that 
he moved to another university.  He is a professor of Mathematics.
I could not locate his name in AMS membership list.

	Thank you.
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:21:58 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Apologizing for WWII--yet again

Ladies and gentleman,

.

   In reading this post for a while now I have decided to respond to
some of the isshoes. Anyway, I believe there was a time in between the
years of 1933 and 1945 when the citizens(The People) were behind what
the Imperialist were doing. So, knowing this, it is untrueful and
deceptive to say that "The People" and "the Government" were
independent! The People was The Government and The Government was The
Imperialist. The Japanese people were proud very often of the "prizes
and honor" that were brought form abroad. But, I acknowlodge that there
were times especailly at the end when the people rebelled (and died)
and/ or the Military IMperialist forced, threaten and killed many
Japanese who refused to take park in the war effort(as war people say).
I remember hearing stories about
teenager drinking gallons of soy sauce in order to become sick to avoid
the medical exam for the induction into death. 

So, for the sake of brevity:  We are reponsivible, we.. well let me
change this.

I feel that I am responsible because my nation, the beauty that was
turnished by the greed of a few power hungry and insensative men, and
became spoiled because 
death and pain and sorrow were the tools of their trade. Because of
this, I lay on this earth looked down upon by my own race and burdens
and critique-ful looks
follow me where ever I go. But, I am a man! And respect those who expect
me! This is my survival. Not Homogeniety! I am convinced that if I died
in America
not one Japanese would come to my funeral. But, I love all people
despite what a few of them say. I know what's in my heart! And, I'm
proud of
myself!:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))  Nice smile, Uh!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<RHB.93Jan21104645@world.std.com>
	<1993Jan22.060210.29587@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:20:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.060210.29587@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp> tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto) writes:


	   No, I don't think the Japanese are excessively persecuted either.
   In some cases, I think the Japanese deserve it, but you should try being
   Japanese-American growing up in a conservative city in the U.S., getting
   thrown against a locker at school with some high school football jock
   about a foot taller than you growling "Remember Perl Harbor, JAP!" and
   then get thrown in a trash can...

Well, you don't have to be Japanese-American to get thrown up against
a locker in high school. Actually, all you have to be is smarter,
shorter, weaker, or not a football player. So you're not being singled
out, believe me, except that you are different. But let's compare
treatment here, just for the hell of it, with that of anomalous people
in Japan. Owada-san, the future empress, herself was victimized in
this way, probably much more cruelly and relentlessly than any
football player ever would have done it, merely because she had been
abroad.

	   Anyway, I prefer that the term "Jap" NOT be used, whether it was
   meant to be respectful or not.

	   It's the same as any other term, "Chink", "Nigger", "Yank", etc.  
   Alot of people would just prefer that the terms not be used.

I don't mind being called a Yank. My British friends call me that (as
in "you Yanks are having a bit of trouble in Somalia now, aren't
you?") and I call them Brits. But just as a matter of clarification,
the reason I sent my original post on this is because I asked my wife
(who is a sansei) if she thought the word Jap pejorative. She said no.
After I got a bunch of E-mails from people who assured me that it was,
I asked her again. She said yes. I asked about the discrepancy and she
said she'd been being sarcastic the first time and didn't think I
meant the question seriously! (Go figure.) Well, I should have known.

  |> | Opinions expressed here, when |
   |> | clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |

	   Since your opinions weren't quite so persuasive, whose opinions
   were they?  :)  

I have no idea. As my signature says, I only take responsibility for
opinions that *are* clear and persuasive. Must have been line noise.
;-)

RB


-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Day 14)
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:09:18 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew INT'L Ltd. TOKYO, JAPAN

In an unusual move, but in order to preserve suspense until the very last day, 
both ozeki were meeting on Saturday. Akebono showed determination, attacking 
hard and sending his elder backpedalling towards the rim. But Konishiki
was able to bring the action back towrads the center, only to see Ake grab
his sash and send him spinning around and down by shitatenage. Perfect sumo.
In the meantime, co-leader Daishoyama had fallen to Musashimaru's strong throat
grabbing and pushing in a brief bout. Takahanada's opening was weak against 
Kotonishiki, and the small sekiwake seemed to have the upper hand and 
be gathering his strength for the kill when, out of nowhere, Taka came up
with a brilliant leg sweep (kekaeshi) that sent Koto on all fours. At that
point, Akebono was sole in the lead, with Takahanada and Daishoyama one step
behind.

Day 14 Winner Wins Loser Wins

W'Y(j)	6	Kyokugo	4
Komafudo(j) 5	Tatsu	2
Mai'U	9	Tama	2
Kinazuma9	Toki	3
Ogi'H	7	K'W	6
T'nami	9	Kbeppu	8
Kiraiho	8	Kita	6
KF	9	Tochi'W	8
Mito	7	Kyokudo	8
Ttoriki	4	Kasuga	5
Wshoyo	9	WHda	9
TomoeF	6	Terao	5
Aki'S	9	Nami'H	9
KuSU	7	Daizen	5
Misugi	6	Dshoho	3
Tmisugi	4	Toyo'U	6
Musashi	9	DshoY	11
THda	11	KN	7
Akebono	12	KoN	9

Last Day's Main Bouts

Akebono		Takahanada
Kotonishiki	Konishiki
Musashimaru	Tochinowaka
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** || /__| **   [Je suis athee, Dieu merci.]          Tel. 813-3597-1595
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Sweeds need help!
From: ndb070@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:11:41 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Hello! I'm a Swedish student wich is going to travel in Japan for a week
in July. I'm very interested to know about what i should see there, what food
I must try and everything that you can find out. Me and my friend are
going to have a travel  pass for train and we are thinking of looking and
experience so much as we can! So we would be very pleased if someone could help
us with this.

					Thanks, Jan-olof Andersson
					NDB070@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:02:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfN3Yg600Vp808Nkdx
	<C19rA6.C3u@NCoast.ORG>
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. CMorton Writes: (in responses to me)

.

> Do you know that you may have committed the unforgivable sin? By

>>"Sin"?  What's that...?

When that fire and brimstone hits yo' Black ass you'll know what sin is
then.  I bet you that!

> attributing to the Holy Ghost something that is evil. In this case, a
> lie! You know that you were lying on God's Holy Word! You should
> consider this. As for the Japanese University stuff- I have accepted
> this fact for a long time. So, your continual
> beagerring of this point is hopeless.
> 
>>As an agnostic I consider it irrelevant.  You should consider that
your utter academic failure in Japan was a message.  I'm sure you won't
though.

Really! Another one! What's going on here? Well, since you were in the
rice patties of Hunguk then maybe I can talk to you more frankly. God is
not a science. I can imagine how stoooooppidd you look when you say I 'm
an Agnostic. I'm an Agnostic.  A religion where man's own understanding 
is  God. No wonder you feel that if the Law doesn't catch you when you
do wrong there is no consecquence.  There is no such thing. There is a
life of which we all have after our time ends here. There no's , I CAN
DO ANYTHING I WANT BECAUSE WHEN I DIED ITS ALL OVER.  It ain't over and
ain't no fat lady gonna sing. But, there will a song and you will be the
singer. And you'll sing ,  Lawd, Lawdy, Lawd, lawd! Plessse git mah
Black ass out o' dis fire! I ma sorry Lawd! I ma sorry! Plessse git mah
Black ass  o' dis fire! But,  it'll be too late! So,  you should start
to re-eamine your ideas about this issue and be kind and considerate to
others.  

Well,  I have to go now. But, I be back!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Cities and Suburbs
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:05:28 GMT

In article <1k7n00$ikq@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>You gotta watch what they mean by living in "cities", whether it includes
>suburbs or the arbitrary distinctions between large towns and small cities.
>I hear that in Nebraska, a town with a population greater than 2,000 is 
>deemed a city.

Dunno about the US, but in Japan, there is a requirement of >20,000
population for a town or village to be promoted to a city.
This of course doesn't mean that all towns/villages are under 20,000
or all cities over 20,000.  The village of Sakura, before being merged
as part of the city of Tsukuba, was among the most populous villages
with nearly 50,000 (competing the top with Koza, Okinawa).
On the other hand, cities like Yuubari, Hokkaido should be below 20,000
due to population drainage.

>Anyway, that strip of land where 80% of the population resides, refers to
>the Toukaidou, the historical megalopolis on Honshu's East Coast dating
>to the Heian Era (8th century or so); traveling accountsw from the 10th
>century exist, about travelling from Kyoto to then-Kamakura (now-Tokyo).
>Kamakura was the Eastern military frontier up until the Warring States
>period;

Um.... (this is difficult to straighten out)...
"-dou" as in Toukaidou refers both to a trunk road and the region it
passes through (similar use in Korea).
Travelogues like "Ise-monogatari" is indeed around the 10-th century,
but regional reports (including travelogues) exist from an earlier date,
at least by the 8-th century (Fudoki, etc.).
Kamakura became prominent only after MINAMOTO no Yoritomo opened his
Bakufu in the late 12-th century.
Before that, Kamakura was an obscure village, and Edo (current Tokyo),
about 25 miles north of Kamakura, was marshland.
At that time, cultural centers in the Kanto area include Fuchuu, Tokyo,
and southern Hitachi (vicinities of Tsukuba).
The terminus of Toukaidou (the road) was then -- guess what --
Kashima, along the coast of Ibaraki, where the Kashima Shrine resides.
NAKATOMI no Kamatari(later Fujiwara Kamatari), founder of the Fujiwara
family that dominated the Heian era, was from a priest family of
the Kashima Shrine in the 7-th century.

>in fact, shogun has a meaning, "he who fights the barbarians", 
>fighting the Ainu or whoever other primitive inhabitants living North of
>Kamakura.

No, far more north, at least beyond Nakoso and around current Sendai.
And how far south the Ainu people settled is still an open question.

>Hokkaido was settled by Japanese only beginning in the 19th century,

Um, much earlier.

>so as you go North there is more of a frontier-influence on local cultures.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Where's the Beef ... From? (Was: honda: america's choice!)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:42:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
> [...]  By all means, buy Australian beef (for obvious selfish 
>reason) but go for the best price really for any of the import 
>beef. There is absolutely no reason to pay obscene amount of 
>money for paper-thin, flimsy, tasteless Japanese beef! 

So, is there a difference in taste among Australian, American
(Kansas,Nebraska,etc), and Canadian beef?  I know Japanese
beef (wagyuu) is somewhat different.  Washington state is trying
to raise some wagyuus to sell back to Japan.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How to read "fj" newsgroups on PC
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:33:37 GMT

BFLV@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (BFLV) writes:

>Could anyone out there know how to read the Japanese characters
>on "fj" newsgroups on PC MS-DOS system ?

There are a number of programs with their own kanji fonts that will
run under regular DOS than will display the Japanese characters. (I
use HTERM as it's public domain.)

Another option is to convert the (network standard) JIS coding to
SHIFT-JIS and then use any kind of plain ASCII editor under DOS/V.
(I use vz at it has both English and Japanese menus.)

Hope that helps,

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087




Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: In Defense of Ringworm 
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:01:11 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <1993Jan22.013952.8571@Csli.Stanford.EDU> by hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga):

> 
> In all fairness (on my part),
> I must say that Rikiya Asano's postings,
> absurd and vulgar as they are (though some have good points,
> and are improving in a number of aspects),
> have started a number of good threads, whether intentionally or not.
> 
The principle aspect in which they have improved is in their decline 
quantity.  Also he seems to be issuing fewer death threats....

> In this sense, I'd say that he's productive, even contributing
> to the newsgroup.

"Productive" is a rather ambiguous term.  Chernobyl is productive.  It
Contributes as well.  It "produces" radioactivity and contributes danger
to the environment.  Are the things that it produces and contributes GOOD?

> This marks a critical difference with his dedicated bashers,
> who only prove themselves to be none the better than he is.
> 
Hardly.  He posts endless variations on racism and xenophobia.  He makes
death threats.  We Rikiko bashers on the other hand CRITICIZE these things.
At the same time, we manage to discuss Sakamoto Ryuichi, Yellow Magic
Orchestra, Okinawan folk music, and places to rent Japanese movies, while at
the same time unaccountably managing to avoid slurring entire nations and
races.  Boggles the mind, doesn't it...?

> No kidding.
> 
I think you're serious.  You're just not right.


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------  
"Read my lips, no new Haitians.  Ack!" - Bill the Prez
------------------------------------------------------------------ 
Christopher Morton
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Shonen Knife
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:00:47 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

vetrima@yang.earlham.edu writes:

> Could anyone tell me if Shonen Knife is going to tour
> the U.S. anytime soon and where. Also if someone could 
> give me a list of all the albums they have made.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Enzo
>   
>    


  Well, among other things, Shonen Knife recorded "Do the Bartman" in 
Japanese. I got to see the music video of it (they used different 
footage than the US version of the video), and it's sung by Shonen 
Knife... I don't know if it was available on CD or not (though I know 
that the original English Simpsons Sings the Blues album is available 
in Japan from Pioneer)
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Cities and Suburbs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1k7n00$ikq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:53:17 GMT

In article <1k7n00$ikq@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

   ... in fact, shogun has a meaning, "he who fights the barbarians" ...


Really? According to the kanji, it just means "leader" or "general"
(shou) of the "army" (gun).  Is there something I'm missing (always a
possibility)?

RB

-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: ABE Koubou has died
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:16:16 GMT


Heard on the news:

The writer Abe Koubou died yesterday due to brain disease (tumor?) at age 68.
Works include "Tanin no Kao" (Face of a stranger?) and "Suna no Onna"
(Woman in the dunes).
The latter has been made into a film by director Teshigawara Hiroshi.

His works have a surrealistic flavor expressing anxiety due to
loss of identity.

Also; the manga-ka Sonoyama Shunji passed away a few days ago
due to cancer.

-Yuzuru Hiraga