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From: kvt@druwy.ATT.COM (KVT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Phim Chu+o+ng?
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:44:46 GMT
Reply-To: kvt@druwy.ATT.COM (KVT)
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep4.022105.6173@ncar.ucar.edu> chau@hao.ucar.edu (National Center for Atmospheric Research) writes:
# Qui' Dzi.!!
# 	Tia' tui ca^m' ca? nha` tu+` nay 0 ddu+o+c. coi phim chu+o+ng?.  
# 	Tha^t. la` buo^n` ba? vo^ van`.  Tia' con` da(n. tui ra(ng`:
# 	"Ra^u`, may` ma` tha^y' ma' va` chi. Lu+o+c. coi thi` phai?
# 	thu+a cho tao bie^t'".  Ma' tui thi` hay cho tui tie^n`, con`
# 	chi. Lu+o+c. thi` hay ru tui ngu? mo^i~ to^i' (a` o+i, i' a`,
# 	ca^u` dan' ddong' ddinh....).  Nhu+ng ne^u' tia' ma` bie^t'
# 	tui hong? noi' thi` cha(c' ma^m~ a(n roi.
# 	-Co+' su+. cung~ tai. chi. Lu+o+c. luc' cung` ca? nha` ddi
# 	a(n pho+?.  Chi? ke^u to order:
# 		" Tie^u? nhi.,  tie^u? nhi...."
# 	Anh La` tui nhin` chi. Lu+o+c. "Tha^y' chu+a, tia' ma' cho no'
# 	coi phim Chu+o+ng? qua' ma`, ai cung~ nhin` kia`..."
# 	Ma' tui che^m vao` "A tha(ng` nay` ho^n? vo+i' su+ ti? cua? no'
# 	chu+a, su+ ti? ma` may` dam' ke^u la` no' ha?.."  Ro^i` quay
# 	sang tia' tui " -Dai. gia, ddai. gia tha^y' chu+a?  tha(ng`
# 	La` no' dam' noi' su+ ti? no' kia`...."
# 	Tia' tui luc' ddo' tu+c' qua' lo^i ca? nha` ve^` he^t',  tre^n
# 	ddu+o+ng` ve^` nha` tia' tui la la` vi` coi phim Chu+o+ng?
# 	nhie^u` qua' ne^n ma' tui va` chi. Lu+o+c. mo+i' a(n noi'
# 	nhu+ va^y.  Tui ba^y gio+` mo+i' la` ket. vi` ma' tui cu+'
# 	coi phim luc' tia' ddi va(ng'.  Hong? bie^t' lam` sao dda^y??
# 
# 
# LTBR
# 
# 	A
# 	la` 

Ca'i na`y -du'ng la` "Thie^.n tai, Thie^.n tai". Co' ca'ch na`y
chi? cho A La`: A La` ba?o chi. va` ma' mau ma` "ca?i ta` qui 
cha'nh", kho^ng coi phim chu+o+?ng nu+~a, bo+?i zi` ti'a co' nha<'n 
la` o^?ng ma` ba<'t -du+o+.c la` tie^u. Ne^'u nhu+ chi. va` ma' co`n
me^ muo^.i, A La` qu'at le^n mo^.t ca^u: "sao chi. va` ma' co`n la^~n
lo^.n, kho^ng bie^'t -da^u la` chi'nh -da^u la` ta`, -du'ng la` chu+a 
tha^'y quan ta`i chu+a -do^~ le^." Ne^'u nhu+ chi. va` ma' run so+.,
nhu+ng va^~n -du't lo't, cho ke.o A La` -de^? A La` gia^'u die^'m cho, 
thi` cu+' la^'y ke.o bo? tu'i, vu+`a bo? tu'i vu+`a tho+? da`i: 
"Muo^'n ngu+o+`i -du+`ng bie^'t thi` mi`nh -du+`ng co' la`m". Sao khi 
nha' ke.o sa.ch se?, A La` be`n ti`m -de^'n "gia gia"... u?a que^n...
ti'a,  no'i cho ti'a bie^'t la` kho^ng the^? na`o ca^'m ca?n chuye^.n 
coi phim chu+o+?ng -du+o+.c bo+?i vi` ... "y' tro+`i -da~ -di.nh!!!" 
Ne^'u nhu+ ti'a va^~n -do`i ca?i la.i y' tro+`i, mo^.t be^n la` ti'a,
mo^.t be^n la` ma', A La` chi? co`n ca'ch la` bo? he^'t no+.
tra^`n, xuo^'ng to'c -di tu... A Di -Da` Pha^.t, ba^`n ta<ng la`
ke? tu ha`nh, kho^ng co`n vu+o+ng va^'n bu.i -do+`i, bao nhie^u
chuye^.n a^n oa'n ba^`n ta<ng -da~ cho^n vui` trong kinh ke^.,
A`, kho^ng bie^'t thi' chu? co' ke.o kho^ng ?!?

KVT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tqp8357@sigma.tamu.edu (PHAM, THUY Q)
Subject: Re: Vu.n Va(.t
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:18:00 GMT

In article <itdtn.715389793@angelo>, itdtn@angelo.amd.com (Tuyet P. Nguyen) writes...
>nga('t ta(.ng nhau mo^.t nu. ho^`ng
>xa nhau xin giu+~ chu't lo`ng da^'u ye^u
>ti`nh nhu+ hoa, se~ tie^u -die^`u
>lo`ng nhu+ na('ng gio' trong chie^`u kho'c nhau
> 
>		A^u
> 
>TP.
From: vqt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (David V Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [LAW] Question on the COMMUNITY PROPERTY LAW...
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:59:35 GMT
Reply-To: vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (David V Tran)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <9209150659.AA28142@diva.Berkeley.EDU> hoaluong@diva.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>
>My brother had bought a real estate property in California before he
>got married, and he has been paying the mortgage using his OWN saving
>account since after the marriage.  Now he is considering to refinance
>the property.
>
>He wonders whether he has to put his wife's name on the property's title 
>and whether his wife is entitled to half of the property.  In addition,
>he is interested in finding out exactly what the COMMUNITY PROPERTY LAW 
>says about such a situation.
>
>My brother and I will greatly appreciate it if you can give us any advice 
>on the matter and/or tell us how/where to obtain a most updated copy of 
>the property law.
>
>Thank you very much in advance.
>
>Hoa.
>hoaluong@diva.berkeley.edu
>510-642-0502 (W)
>510-649-8247 (A)

Any appreciation before the marriage is your brother property.  The
appreciation portion after marriage is community property if the money
paid to the bank is community fund.  If your brother uses his OWN money
to pay the bank then it's his property.  Otherwise it's still community
property.  So to make it simple, his wife does not always get 50% share.
That's why when it comes to divorce, lawyers always get involved to
decide who gets what.

When your brother refinances the loan, I believe all lenders will ask him
to put his wife's name on the application.  However, I am not 100% sure
about this.  If it's his own property, he can always asks her to do
a quit claim deed and not to record that (the bank does not allow your
brother to record that).  When he sells the property later on then
present the quit claim deed to the title company.

So you see that community law is very complex.  You may need a real
attorney or tax accountant.  If your brother wants to know more, look
for a "legal aspects of real estate" book.
From: U95_PNGUYEN2@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU
Subject: Sign-On
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: U95_PNGUYEN2@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:53:41 GMT

Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8151 misc.wanted:8207
From: lammens@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joe Lammens)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,misc.wanted
Subject: Philosophy and CS jobs in Europe?
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:13:43 GMT
Organization: UB

Sorry if this is the wrong group, I couldn't think of a better one.

Does anyone know where I could find names and addresses of companies,
universities, or other institutions in Europe that might be interested in
hiring 

1) a PhD in philosophy (my girlfriend)

2) a PhD in computer science (myself)?

Any pointers are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Lammens.
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Counting in Greek
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:23:13 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Sep7.094749.21243@eecs.nwu.edu> efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu writes:
[re number of governments recognising the Republic of Macedonia]
>Slovenia and Croatia were desparate for
>recognition and would recognize anything/one that would reecognize them back
>in order to survive.

This may well be so, but what matters is the ultimate effect.  The
present question is how many and which governments worldwide have
recognised Macedonia, not what their motives have been.

>They achieved it. However, being x-socialist republics
>of the same communist regime the recognition of another x-socialist republic
>of the same country comes with no real value. Therefore, they're out <...>

They're _out_?  My, aren't we coy!  What does "real value" mean, pray?
Why not say that the Greek position has no real value?  That would
certainly make things a lot simpler, and would be just as rational.

-- 
 `If ye hiv ears oan yer heid - then use them tae lissen.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: HR, ECOSSE
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 21:43:27 GMT


In article <BuLAEI.9oA@exnet.co.uk>, dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon) writes:
> In article <1992Sep14.163034.28110@rdg.dec.com> cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:
> >
> >When Scotland gets independence, what _will_ be it's international abbreviation?
> 
> *When*?, Craig.  WHEN?  More like *IF*.  B^>
> 
> When Scotland gets independence from us long-suffering,
> pure-as-the-driven-snow English benefactors we'll be dancing in the
> street in London because our tax bills will go down, and total
> incomprehension will reign north of the border when the Scots realise
> that they've swapped a partnership that has gone back hundreds of years
> and with a common language for a rule by fiat from the EC commission.
> 

Rather the EC than the Conservatives any day.

Kev.

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8276 soc.culture.turkish:9866 soc.culture.jewish:15734
From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: An interesting poll about the feelings in Turkey
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:57:10 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <1992Sep8.182518.12650@morrow.stanford.edu> berne@nova3.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne) writes:

>In article <4769.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:
>>
>>The following is from a poll taken by the Turkish
>>newspaper TURKIYE and published on 31/8/92 (8/31/92),
>>
>>Do you consider yourself
>>Asian - 58%
>>European - 34%
>>Both - 5%
>>Neither - 1%
>>
>>Should Turkey persist on joining EEC
>>Yes - 82%
>>No  - 33%

>Interesting. They are self-admitted non-european but they wouldn't mind the
>subsidies I guess. I did not know the turkish govt pretended to change Turkey
>in a European contry? On what ground?
>JF

It has been reported that the massacres in Bosnia and the European 
inertia has played an effect up to 15 % in the French opinion poles.
If the effect was 15 % in France, the country of Berne and Guy, one
should expect a minimum 30 % effect in Turkey about the idea of being
part of Europe. The opinion poles will change more fiercely and the
Turks will naturally be more skeptical of the Europeanness  if the
beutiful EC men like Lord Carrington, or Mr Major in a more implicit
manner keep encoraging the genocide. 

I personaly do not take such categorizations seriously, Turkey is rich
enough a culture, history and geography to be pigeonholed w.r.t. a single
variable. 

Kutluk
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8171 talk.politics.misc:43972 talk.politics.theory:4066
From: berne@nova3.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne)
Subject: Re: how european do the turks feel
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:53:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.100605.253804@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DIMITRIOS KOUVATSOS) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.210754.4220@ctr.columbia.edu>, deniz@atlas.ctr.columbia.edu
> (Deniz Akkus) writes:
>>
>>I personally don't think Turkey should enter the EEC.  I don't think
>>it makes sense for Turkey in the long run.  I know that Greece is a rather
>>convenient excuse for other governments to stall Turkey.  Actually,
>>I have to say that I am rather thankful to Greece for it.
>
>I am pleasantly surprised that even one of the 1% of the Turks that are
>civilized, as I certainly consider Deniz Akkus to be, is now (not in the

Come on... did you need to write that? a spicy/acid comment once in a
while is ok, but an openly insulting sentence belongs to mutlu's texts,
not yours.

JF
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8175 talk.politics.soviet:7729
From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Kill fill update needed
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:05:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:

>In article <visser.715445313@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

>>	Would someone please post the kill file information again with
>>specifics to exclude Hasan B. Multu's new personality "Serdar Argic".

>If you use rn, type "/serdar argic/hK" (without the "'s) right after you
>read this message.

For the nn users: You may use the 'K' command or you may add the following
line to the $HOME/.nn/kill file:

:!n/:serdar argic

>--
>Constantinos A. Caroutas

Long Haired Nick

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8184 talk.politics.misc:44038 talk.politics.theory:4074
From: tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.theory
Subject: Re: THE NEW BULLY OF THE BALKANS
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:38:47 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre

In article <4767.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:

>EC>Actually I would be interested in hearing the argument w/ regard to
>EC>the recognition of "Macedonia" from the Greek point of view.  If
>EC>someone would send me a short explanation I'd appreciate it.

>  First, we do not object to the recognition of Vardar as a state. We
>  only object to the use of the name "Macedonia". We do not try to
>  dictate what the Vardaris call themselves, but we did bring our case
>  to all other nations. After all, it is not uncommon for countries known
>  by one name internally to be known by another one internationally.
>  Ellas=Greece, Squoperia=Albania, Deutchland(sp?)=Germany, etc etc.
>  The "Rebublic of China" was forced to change its name to "Taiwan
>  Rebublic of China" due to the objections of the People's R. of China.

Not correct. Taiwan is still officially "Republic of China", although it's 
being called many different names in international events (like Taipei in 
the Olympic Games). The most common one is Taiwan. And why should Taiwan 
anyway give a damn about what PR of China says: it officially holds the 
line that the mainland Chinese government is a rebel government consisting 
of criminals and that the Taiwanese government is the lawful government of 
the whole China.

>  Michael.

Timo Ahonen                        "Sometimes I think the surest sign that
University of Helsinki             intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
Finland                            universe is that none of it has tried to
Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI            contact us." Calvin by Bill Watterson
From: vv0b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vasilios Voudouris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Versailles System = Madness
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:19:24 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

EXCELLENT !!!!!

Now THIS is really soc.culture.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.jewish
From: berne@nova3.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne)
Subject: Re: An interesting poll about the feelings in Turkey
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:25:18 GMT

In article <4769.3248.uupcb@factory.com> michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) writes:
>
>The following is from a poll taken by the Turkish
>newspaper TURKIYE and published on 31/8/92 (8/31/92),
>
>Do you consider yourself
>Asian - 58%
>European - 34%
>Both - 5%
>Neither - 1%
>
>Should Turkey persist on joining EEC
>Yes - 82%
>No  - 33%

Interesting. They are self-admitted non-european but they wouldn't mind the
subsidies I guess. I did not know the turkish govt pretended to change Turkey
in a European contry? On what ground?
JF
-----
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:8238 eunet.politics:1281 soc.culture.greek:8652 soc.culture.yugoslavia:8621
From: jba@dat.ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,eunet.politics,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: What is a European country to you?
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:06:42 GMT
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 15: 55:48 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <1838@vall.dsv.su.se> Hilmi Eren, hilmi-er@vall writes:
>A. Machaeridis (am@sys.uea.ac.uk) wrote:
>: jba@dat.ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen) writes:
>: 
>: >As to whether Denmark is a success or not, is difficult to say. But if
>: >we define success as economic strength, Denmark is one of the 3-4 
>: >EC-members who is eligible for entering the proposed "common currency"
>: >agreement (the other countries being (I think) France, Great Britain,
>: >Belgium, Luxembourg?).
>: 
>: >So yes, by economy strength we are a success. And we have just won the
>: >european football championship and the annual NATO competion. 
>: >Howsaboutthat?
>: 
>: And while you are so busy doing all that, somebody has to take care of
>: your women, during the summer. That is why you need Greeks.
>
>  + This is an example of how low a person can get (Machaeridis).
>  + If the Greek tourist-cities look a bit clean than you can thank
>  + the women you mentioned asshole. Without tourists Greece would be
>  + like an african state... althoug it's not so far to that.....

Personally I did quite a bit of "cleaning up" (using my tongue)
among the many beautiful greek women on the island of Paros when I
visited Greek a few years ago. Maybe it is time for yet another tour?


--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Subject: Need Romanian Help
Originator: bcperry@c00511-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:17:26 GMT


A friend and I will be going to see the Olympic Gymnastics Exhibition in the
Dean E. Smith Center (Chapel Hill, NC) on October 2.  Some of the gymnasts on
the tour are Romanian.  If anyone knows Romanian out there, I would be greatly
appreciative if you would e-mail me a few words in Romanian.  (Like "thank you"
and "may I take a photograph?")

Thanks in advance,
Brent

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From: Steve.Hayes@p0.f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Steve Hayes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Murderers! Assassins!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 07:50:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/20.0 - Unisa Editorial, Pretoria

After seeing so much blood-curdling rubbish written by so many people 
in this newsgroup, I thought I would like to post something of my own, but
it seems one has to have some kind of conspiracy theory to back it all 
up. 

So here is my contribution to the flames:

"After the mass assassinations of Orthodox and Moslem Yougoslavians (880 000)
and approval for extermination of (600 000) Jews in Europe, the Vatican seeing 
the failure of the Axis powers switches in time to the Allied side! "

"In vain many honest men of the world waited for years for the deserved
punishment of the war criminals of Vatican! In vain they awaited the arrest
of the war criminals and their punishment! The trial of Nurenberg [sic] was
nothing but `dust' into the eyes of stupid and ignorant. The most important
of them escaped with the help of Vatican and the allied services to USA, 
Argentina and other distant countries to enjoy their lives with the money 
of their victims. The notorious head of the `Croatian State', Poglavnik Ante
Pavelitch and his Chief of the Secret Police, Andrija Artukovitch together 
with thousands of other war criminals found a safe refuge in the USA...

Naturally the Papists had committed many other mass exterminations of people
in the past, but not within such a short period of time as 5-6 weeks only!
Their previous `records' concerned the extermination of over 700 000 Men,
women and children of Libya in the death camps after the resistance led by the 
National Libyan Hero Omar Mujhtar ...

... Andrija Artukovitch, the Minister of the Public Security of the new
Croatian State, who really at all times was `insuperable'. It is him who
made the greatest `gift' ever offered to `Poglavnik' 20000 (twenty thousand)
of HUMAN EYES, which were removed from living Orthodox Yougoslavians... placed
with pieces of ice in special baskets bearing ribbons with national Croatian
colours... But inspite [sic] all these and other `deeds' both men found a safe
shelter in the United States of America after the end of the second world war,
thanks to the `Holy See' and the CIA..."

Extracts from "The Axis of death: Vatican, Masonry, Zionism" by Dr D.C. Yermak. 

Does anyone know anything about Dr Yermak and his allegations? Is there a 
grain of truth in them, or are they complete rubbish?

He claims that Cardinal Spellman and John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles 
of the USA, along with the Vatican, the Freemasons and the Zionists, were 
responsible for the murder of Orthodox Christians, Jews and Muslims by the 
Nazis and Fascists in World War II.


 
... Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: sachz@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (SAS)
Subject: Re: Counting in Greek (Macedonia Recognised by Russia)
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:33:52 GMT

In article <rsakella.715954056@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> rsakella@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:
>dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) writes:
>
>>efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu writes:
>> > B.-H. is not a recognized country. That makes it seven.
>> > Russia did not follow on the recognition move. No Russian counsulate exists
>> > in Skopje.
>>Oh well, there is no Dutch consulate in Malta, so that makes the Netherlands
>>not recognizing Malta as a separate country?  (BTW, the consulate in Italy
>>functions as consulate for Malta.)
>
>I think that there is a misunderstanding of the initial argument. While
>Russia showed the intention to recognise the ex-Yugoslavia's "People's
>Socialist Republic of Macedonia", it seems that they have "frozen" 
>recognition procedures. There was a declaration in Bulgaria showing their
>intention to recognise the republic, but after that there were some talks
>with people of the Greek Foreign Ministry where their position was
>interpreted as rather ambiguous. 
>However, since countries are recognised with official notes, it seems
>that such a note has not been sent yet from Moscow to Skopie.
>
>--rizos

Rizos, may I ask where do you get your information from, please. 
The following was posted over a month ago, and is clearly self explanitory.

=== MAK-NEWS
Subject: Recognition of Macedonia by Russia

RUSSIA RECOGNIZES MACEDONIA OFFICIALLY

Today in Skopje,  Macedonia,  the assistant foreign minister of Russia,
Mr. Churkin handed the official note of recognition of Macedonia to the Foreign
Minister of Macedonia Dr. Denko Malevski.  Mr Churkin also met with president
Kiro Gligorov.

The recognition of Macedonia by Russia was announced several weeks ago by the
foreign minister of Russia Kozirev.


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