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From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: Hemp paper
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:56:16 GMT

Hemp paper is alive and well. I am a member of the local hemp organization.
They just ordered a ream of hemp paper. Actually I believe it is like 30%
hemp 70% cotton. But it is at least a step in the right direction.

The paper is relatively inexpensive.. I think it was 3 cents a page.
In fact the college bookstore is going to be selling it next year as an
alternative to regular paper.

Hemp paper as I understand holds up against the rigors of water a lot
better..

Besides.. I support hemp products because I think it is one of the primary
ways to let people realize that the plant that the government has banned
is extremely beneficial to the public.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:05:36 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Apr13.111146.2409@athena.mit.edu> wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes:
>I have to disagree.  I see nothing to stop the government from
>continuing its current trend of making a profit on the War on Drugs
>through civil forfeiture. 
	I dunno, but I see a huge and mounting deficit and the erosion
	of the legitimacy of the federal government as a major impediment.
	The USA will be lucky if it doesn't end up scattered to the four
	winds like the USSR.  The Soviet empire has collapsed already.
	The only thing that "legitimized"  US empire in the eyes of the 
	world is history, can the hegemony of Washington be far behind?
	American power is more and more an irrelevancy and will only be
	tolerated by the richer nations as long as it doesn't affect them.

	How long do you think that foreign government holders of US bonds
	will tolerate high levels of defense spending when it only
	makes their investment all the more precarious?  We have to
	see the Reagan/Bush years as the last burst of heat and light
	from a dying star.  Dangerous while it is burning out but not
	a threat in the future.

	By the way, Americans should be cheered by this thought.
	Being the world's policeman is a good way to get your sons and
	daughters killed in foreign lands for spurious reasons.


							smg
From: allens@yang.earlham.edu (Allen Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana addiction
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:09:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr8.190931.16826
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Apr4.171628.1031@cs.dal.ca>, craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig) writes:
> 
> I have a new thread to start here.  My question is:  Is it possible to become
> addicted to marijuana?
> 	My personal experiences, which have included smoking hash daily
> over a long period (somewhere between 1/8 to 1/4 of a gram per day), lead me 
> to say no to this question, as I was able to stop smoking when I could no 
> longer get hash when I moved to a new town, without any withdrawl symtoms
> of any sort, physical or mental.  When I got back home however, after 4 
> months, I immediately went back to my daily toking habit.
> 
> 	But then, to pose another question, why,
> if it isn't addictive, was I smoking it every day?  Perhaps because I enjoy
> it, like I enjoy a little reading or watching a little T.V. every evening
> (I should mention that I did my toking in the evening, after I had disposed
> of my daily responsibilities).  The other day, however, I was talking to a
> FOAF, who informed me that he smoked at least a gram of hash every day, and
> became very distressed if he had to go without it.  He insisted that it was
> addictive and he was addicted to it.  This made me re-examine my ideas about
> the addictiveness of cannabis and my own experiences with it.  Are all of
> us who believe that cannabis is non-addictive just fooling ourselves?
> 
	This appears similar to my experience with Ritalin (a substance 
used to treat hyperactive children, with numerous similiarites to 
amphetamines). I took it during the school year five days a week from 1st 
to 10th grade. I had no problems with craving/withdrawal/etc. whatsoever 
when I wasn't taking it. But since then, I've learned that it's allegedly 
highly addictive, or at least it is to some people. Different people react 
differently, and generalizations aren't possible without more information 
than species.
	-Allen
From: cl38+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher J. Lacenere)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: MARIJUANA vs. TOBACCO
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:02:36 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Is it true that marijuana smoke is worse than cigarette smoke with
respect to carcinogens and general lung damaging chemicals?

                                                        -Chris  
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Asset Forfeiture and You
Keywords: traveler's check misconceptions
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:50:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.194447.15023@eskimo.celestial.com> kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrm 762-6417) writes:
>With enough skill and finesse, the police can forge a countersignature.

The police don't need to forge anything, all they need is a court order
assigning the money to them.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

		Constants aren't,
		Variables won't.                     

			    -- Corollary to Murphy's Law
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: alt.head?
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:58:48 GMT

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>BTW I don' really like alt.heads but that's just a matter of taste. I'd
>prefer something like alt.altered or alt.perception or some such that
>won't drive away the more conservative folks who might drop in and find
>an interest.

I also have a feeling that there might be a lot of cross-posting
between alt.sex and alt.head...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
alt.drugs FTP site: milton.u.washington.edu[128.95.136.1] dir:/public/alt.drugs
               For quotes and other useless info see my .plan
From: jody@ace.acadiau.ca (JODY DUNBAR)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Movie : The Doors
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:04:09 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I just watched "The Doors" last night. I found this movie to be very 
interesting. I picked out a few spots in the movie that would definetly be 
freaky on acid. Anybody watch it on acid? How was it?
							Jody
From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Paneolus (sp?): a sacred manna?
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:00:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.31622
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Recently I found that the mushrooms growing naturally on a 
campus playing field sparked some remembrance of a few
plates in a mycology book which were of hallucinogenic mushrooms.
I picked up a mushroom field guide at the library and went
out to identify the specimens.

I believe my specimens (they were never in my possession, I checked
them out on the lawn) were of the paneolus or paneolina (same thing)
variety*.  This mushroom was also very dissimilar from any toxic
mushrooms found in the area according to the guide.  

This variety of mushroom contains psilocin although it is not
classified taxonomically as a Psilocybe (it is in one taxonomer's
book.)  I was wondering if any out there have perhaps witnessed
anyone or know friends who have taken this yard variety and
would like to share with us dose ranges, preparation  techniques,
how great it was, if they could sell us some :-) , or the like.


===============================================================================
=    jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker..............=
=    "I'd like to talk to you.  You're very special to me.". .................=
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Movie : The Doors
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:47:30 GMT

jody@ace.acadiau.ca (JODY DUNBAR) writes:
>I just watched "The Doors" last night. I found this movie to be very 
>interesting. I picked out a few spots in the movie that would definetly be 
>freaky on acid. Anybody watch it on acid? How was it?

I took some Dextromethorphan once and watched "Nightmare on Elm Street
part something or other", "Heathers", and just the first part of "The
Doors".  Didn't watch the rest of it because the general "death" theme
of the movies was getting to me -- went to sleep instead... 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
alt.drugs FTP site: milton.u.washington.edu[128.95.136.1] dir:/public/alt.drugs
               For quotes and other useless info see my .plan
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: joelong@romeo.caltech.edu (Long, Joseph Louis)
Subject: Re: questions from NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:04:00 GMT

>>>  2.  What is the best why to store doses?
>>
>>In a toaster oven set to "warm"  this will keep your acid fresh and  
>>effective for extended periods.
> 
>Anyone out there have documentation about the "breakdown" of
>LSD due to light or heat ?

LSD is broken down when exposed to radiation near the blue end of the
visible spectrum.  It also reacts with oxygen.  This "oxidation" effect
is accelerated at elevevated temperatures.
moral of this story: Keep cool
                     Be dark... or red if you really wanna see
also if you wanna be analy protective of oxidation store in nitrogen (right!)
I'm told it's fine for a LONG time if you just keep it in Al foil in the
lettuce crisper.

See me,
joe
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kitsch@milton.u.washington.edu (Ted Fitch)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:12:05 GMT

In article <31466@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       ) writes:
>I was in Crown books the other day and saw a hardcover book that
>some M.D. wrote about his own hallucinations.  He talks about
>nightmares, fevers, AND drug induced hallucinations.  I remember
>there was a part in the first section where he described a 
>hallucinatory experience where he used a sensory deprivation
>tank "aided by" the hallucinogenic dissociative anaesthetic ketamine
>(Special K.)  I was wondering if my hallucinations were worth a 
>buck....
>
>I know this isn't VR, but I thought this practical use of
>hallucinatory experience might be interesting to some of you...
>
>................................................................................
>.    jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker
>.    "Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
>................................................................................
Was this the book _Fire in the Brain_ by Ronald Siegal?
If not, what book are you talking about?

Thanks,

Ted Fitch (kitsch@u.washington.edu)
From: SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality and Hallucinogens
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92099.203815SXL136
Organization: Penn State University


     Is this the same M.D. that the movie Altered States is *loosely* based
on?
From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LSD effects (long term)
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:48:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Bird and another have written about possible long term side 
effects of LSD.  Bird mentioned organic brain damage(?) and the
other mentioned an I.Q. increase of 10 pts.!  Could anyone 
with information on the studies these facts were culled from
please post?  

A friend here at UCSD in the Cognitive Science Department has
told me recently his professor taught them of a sort "chemical
lodging" of LSD on serotonin receptors which result in some
kind of long term effect on the number of receptor terminals
.  I haven't talked with the professor yet.  Apparently a guest
lecture in the Psychology Department has also given a similar
lecture.  I haven't followed up here either...


Anyone with some information, please don't be shy.


===============================================================================
=    jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker..............=
=    "I'd like to talk to you.  You're very special to me.". .................=
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
From: drk20509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (mighty odin)
Subject: Re: Fully Informed Jury Association (Pamphlet)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:43:51 GMT

"Paul Hager" <hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

>voir dired for a drug case.  He explained his problems
>with the drugs laws and was rejected.  One additional

	What are the questions asked to determine if you will be kept
from being a jury member. I don't understand how one's opinions can be
vetoed from the courtroom. Assuming that I could be kept from the 
jury because of my sense of liberty and freedom, what are the
appropriate actions? Should one lie in order to be kept on a jury?
If lying is not appropriate, what are the steps to be taken when one
wants to remain on a jury but is likely to be excepted because of one's
opinions?
-dwk
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:49:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Just for a little perspective that new daughter, Candice, that I mentioned
is now also an intrepid tripper selling her beautiful beadwork from a card
table on Telegraph Hill in Berkeley.  Poor kid never had a chance. ;-)

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kastner@netcom.com (Rob Kastner)
Subject: Re: Robitussin question
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:44:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa


Bob
 The maximum sstrength is the best because its only active ingredient is the 
Dextro.  

The next day the "Hangover" is like ACID just a bit washed-out.
I he no real hard time functioning the next day.

I know other people have other preferences so maybe other people on the net
will tell you some other choices.

ROB

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Keywords: Penis, phallus
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:45:18 GMT

v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
>Drugs are killing are children!!!!! How can you possibly want them legal?????
     Golly, I never thought of it that way.  I mean, all my friends used
   to smoke marijuana, and then one night every single one of them died.
   I always wondered what it was that killed them, and now I know.  Thank
   you, Julie, for helping me to see the light.

>You must be truly sick.
      Yes, I once was a sick man--I supported the legalization of drugs.
   As you so thoughtfully put it, I SUCKED!  But no more!  Like Saul on
   the road to Damascus, I have been shown the true path.
  
   not.

>--jules
      Jules, did you ever think that people might have good reasons for  
   wanting drugs re-legalized?  Your post shows all the depth of someone 
   who saw some of the subject headings on alt.drugs and in a heartbeat
   said "Why--I never!!!"   I would suggest you at least make an effort to
   see what everyone here is talking about before you throw out your 
   meaningless insults.

**************************************************************************
Would you mind if we balanced this glass of milk where your visiting friend
accidentally was killed? Would it be OK with you if we wrote a reminder of 
things we'll forget to do today otherwise with this green magic marker, if  
it's all right, on the back of your head? --TMBG
  ******** Tony Pulokas ****** U of Illinois / Urbana-Champaign *********#
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:14:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

fordam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andrew M Ford) writes:
: 
: 
: At the beginning of this school year me and a friend were looking to get  
: high real bad, so we decided to try modle glue. At first it was bad  
: because the manufacturer put some mustard seed in the glue to discourage  
: inhaling it, but we still managed to.  After inhaling about one tube a  
: piece, we were pretty fucked up. No visuals or anything real intense, but  
: just an extremely euphoric feeling.  Anybody out there ever try glue or  
: any other type of inhalant, and were they any good? Also, any body heard  
: of someone frying their brains from doing thisy type of shit.

This was meant to be satirical wasn't it?
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: sab@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Shawn Berg)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LSD in your eyes
Summary: want information
Keywords: lsd eyes
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:43:20 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Would the effective dose of LSD be lower if it was taken through the eyes
instead of taken orally?  Would LSD cause damage or pain if it came in 
contact with a person's eyes?

   -sb


Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7685 talk.politics.drugs:2940
From: cannabis@west.darkside.com (Cannabis Kid)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:33:55 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

> 	By exaggerating the air angle, inserting it into all the standard
> 	WOD propaganda rather than cocaine or reefer ... the depth of WODs
> 	abberation might be made far more obvious to a lot more people than
> 	would be reached by any dry technical report or a political speech.
> -- Jim : Standard Disclaimers
 
like "doing A.I.R. can become psychologicly addictive" or "A.I.R. can 
make MALE brests enlarge" or "A.I.R. can make you sterile" or "A.I.R. cna 
alter you judgement and MAKE you do things you wouldn't normally do" or 
"A.I.R. causes spontanious decapatation" ... just say NO to breathing!!!
 
---
Tell me no truth and I'll tell you all lies
Cannabis@west.darkside.com
From: 1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Plans unmasked?
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:15:29 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

From the University of Kansas house organ:

"Two officials with the University of Arizona's Smith Project for
Substance Abuse Education [!] will be the keynote speakers April 17
for a KU faculty seminar on training professionals on alcohol and drug
abuse prevension, treatment and education. [...]

"'If our national goal of an alcohol- and drug-free society is to be a
reality, our major research institutions of higher learning must provide
the necessary tools,' Jacob U. Gordon, [...] director of the seminar,
said."

Never heard folks be QUITE so frank about "our national goal."  Guess
once we HAVE that society, we'll *need* Substance Abuse Education....

Christopher Gunn	Molecular Graphics and Modeling Lab
SPAN--KUPHSX::GUNN	Department of Medicinal Chemistry, Malott Hall
913-864-4428 or -4495	University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS  66045
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7812 misc.legal:9401 talk.politics.misc:18544
From: sean@sdg.dra.com
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:29:57 CDT
Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO

In article <1992Apr16.224331.760@news.eng.convex.com>, Dave Dodson <dodson@convex.COM> writes:
> In article <1992Apr16.172242.48@sdg.dra.com> sean@sdg.dra.com writes:
>>In article <peercy.703456880@dopey.crhc.uiuc.edu>, peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy) writes:
>>> About 18 months ago, a judge in St. Clair County awarded the Municipal
>>> Building of East St. Louis, plus 220 acres of city land, to a man who
>>> was owed $4 million by the city ($47 million in debt).  It can happen.
>>
>>Then they sent the man a property tax bill.
>>
>>What the government giveth, the government taketh away.
> 
> Well sure they sent him a property tax bill.  As the owner of commercial
> property he should pay property taxes.  Presumably he is deriving income
> from the building by leasing it, or he plans to sell it, so he should be
> able to come up with the cash to pay the taxes.  So where's the beef.

Obviously you don't know what the real estate market is like in East St. Louis,
last I heard the current owner was trying to barter (not sell) the property
for some land elsewhere.

As far as deriving income from the building, the building's only tenent is
the East St. Louis Government (a.k.a. City Hall).  And as the previous poster
pointed out they don't have any money to pay rent (they're already millions
in debt).   I guess he could start eviction proceedings against the Government,
then it becomes a race whether he can evict the government before they seize
the building.

I suppose the eviction proceedings might go something like this:

  But your honor, if you just delay the eviction proceedings another week
  we will have seized the building for non-payment of taxes, and then you
  won't have to order the police to evict your honor, and themselves, from
  the building.

The whole thing smells like the city hall equivalent of "greenmail."
-- 
Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO
Domain: sean@sdg.dra.com, Voice: (Work) +1 314-432-1100
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dawn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dawn Owens-Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Quiz Bowl: We are in finals
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:43:27 GMT

"Paul Hager" <hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
 [about his quiz bowl experience regarding questions
  with incorrect answers].

I experienced a similar but opposite problem once when I was in a
high school QB tournament.

The moderator said "Herpe..."

I accidentally buzzed in (much too quickly) before I had
  heard any more of the question.  I made a guess and
  said "Uh..The study of reptiles? (Herpetology)"

That turned out to be correct, but the other team accused 
us of cheating (knowing the questions in advance), and the judge
disqualified me for the rest of the game.  Doesn't that suck?