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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:35:47 EDT
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Subject:      Bush Interview #2
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Subject: Bush Interview #2

   Here is the second interview of George Bush by Pat Robertson. If your
interested at all, please skim it. They talk about the Congress, the GI
Bill for kids, Saddam, and George's accomplishments....

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    Interview of George Bush by Pat Robertson, Part 2. (07/28/92)

    Sheila: Well on Monday we brought you part 1 of Pat's interview with
the president, and today in part 2, President Bush levels his sites
against what he believes is the cause of governmental gridlock in
Washington, the United States Congress.

    Pat: Democrats have controlled Congress for decades. What would
happen if there was a Democratic along with a Democratic Congress?

    George: We tried that, 1977 through 1980, and people forget that.
That was tried and it resulted in the misery index, inflation, and
unemployment going right through the sky, the highest ever. What has not
been tried is a Republican President and a Republican Congress. That
hasn't been tried since Ike's election in 1952.  The control of the House
of Representatives has been in the hands of the Democrats since 1956, and
so what hasn't been tried is shifting control of the United States
Congress and giving these new ideas a chance; choice in education, health
care that preserves our quality and yet makes insurance available to all.
    So we need to change the Congress if you really want to change this
country.

    Pat: Look back over this last 4 years. If you were to pick out just 3
things, the highlights of your current administration, what would you say
they were?

    George: I think the fact that we have really helped, and I put it
that way, changed the world, is important. And we don't have total world
peace, we still got to keep defense. But the fact that Communism is gone,
international menacing Communism, you got the Berlin wall down, you got
ancient enemies talking to each other, in the Middle East. I think the
stewardship of our foreign policy and the leadership against the
Communist nemesis is good.  I also firmly believe we did the right thing
in kicking Saddam Hussan in a great effort, out of Kuwait. So I think
that's one thing.
    Secondly, I think I put forward programs to help America, whether
it's in education, with educational choice, whether it's standing for
certain issues like prayer in school.
    And then the third thing, I would say, I think both Barbara and I
have tried to bring a sense of family, I hope a sense of decency and
honor to this very special job, the Presidency, and a very special place,
the White House, in which I am privileged to serve.
    So some of it's issues, some of it's accomplishments in the world
scene, and some of it is just the concept that I have tried to treat this
job with the dignity and respect for values that I think the American
people want.

    Pat: Talk about the family values, the family initiatives. I debated
Ron Brown on a program for CBS and he was saying "Well the Democrats have
all the family initiative." What are the Republican family initiatives?

    George: I don't know what he means by that and I'm glad you were the
own that interviewed and not me. I'm afraid I might have got a little
hot, but no, I'm talking about things like child care, where we believe
that the parents should have the choice in that, not some government
bureaucracy. Say some grandparent wanted to take care of a grandchild and
six friends. They shouldn't be excluded.
    Family values, prayer's one, not because I'm on this program, but
I've always felt that we need to protect the right to have a voluntary
prayer in school. I disagree with the courts in that particular decision.
    We touched the question of human life. I happen to believe in the
choice in education is important. We have this GI Bill for children that
really does what happened with the GI Bill when I... I'm older than you,
Pat, and when I came out of WW II, I participated in the GI Bill. They
didn't say, "Hey, you can only go to a state school, or you must go to
Yale, or you must go to a religious school." They didn't make the choice.
What it did was to strengthen all, in my view, by having that choice. It
helped some.
    But now we're saying, same thing, for K through 12. Make the choice.
Let the parents choose. And it doesn't diminish, the concept doesn't
diminish the public schools. Indeed, it strengthens it. If someone
chooses it, fine.
    The difference I have with the Ron Brown crowd is, they say "Oh, it's
unconstitutional to have choice for a parent that wants, for example, to
send a kid to a parochial school." and that's not true. It wasn't
unconstitutional for the GI Bill, why is it unconstitutional? And we are
being fought, and I'm taking them on now, much more openly now by the
union, a big powerful teacher's union that thank heavens, doesn't speak
for the teachers. They speak for their own bureaucracy, and they fight me
at every turn, and I'm going to make clear to the American people that
we're up against, it's not the American teachers, but it's an
establishment that is unwilling to think new thoughts. They're more
interested in their own little accreditation program then they are in the
education of our young kids, so different than the teachers that are
members of that who are wonderful and bless them.

    Pat: This initiative could be the greatest turning point in the
education of America. If it's successful, you'll have to...

    George: We've got people to go through, and we've got to make clear
to the American people. We've got a difference between our side and the
opponents side on this, and certainly with the Congress.
    Again, here I go again, but I tell ya, at each turn, whether it's a
strong crime bill, or whether it's a balanced budget amendment to the
Constitution that we need. It will discipline us. It will discipline
Congress. At each turn we're blocked by this old thinking Congress, that
can't run a Post Office, that don't know how to manage a tiny little
bank, and it's ridiculous.
    But the American people are smart, and what I've got to do, is put it
to the American people on the issue, not on complaining. Say, "If you
want to change this country, change something that hasn't been changed in
36 years, House of Representatives. Give it a try. If we don't get the
job done, change it back, but don't leave it set, the same way for 36
years, the one institution that hasn't changed and thus has grown
bureaucratically and insensitively to the needs of the people."

    Pat: What do you see for 4 more years? If there's a vision, a
program, what is it for the next 4 years?

    George: I see safe streets, a better education. I also see better
health care, and some way I see, and I can't tell you how we can
accomplish it, the strengthening of the family. And I keep coming back to
that, Pat, cause ringing in my ears the words from the National League of
City Mayors, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, large city,
small city, and they said "The largest cause of the problems we face in
urban America is the decline of the American family." And this week, a
few days ago, I had the Black Mayor's Association in there, and I told
them of this. They said, "That's the way it is." and somehow, someway, in
the next 4 years, we've got to turn around this decline of the family.
We've got to stand up.
    My Vice President comes under some fire. I support him. When he talks
about cultural elite, he's not trying to go against entertainment in
America. We had a case of what they call "Iced Tea", the performer, who
talks about killing policemen, and gets away with it, and Time/Warner
airs it. Talks about burning down the White House. I mean, enough is
enough, and to urge killing police officers who are out there risking
their lives for you and me, and your listeners and my kids and my grand
children, every single day? That isn't right? And, I'm not for
censorship, but I certainly am for decency and a sense of value, and I
think the American people are tired of this.

    Pat: Do you think we're going to have another engagement with Saddam?

    George: I think that Saddam Hussan must, MUST live up to EVERY SINGLE
REQUIREMENT of the United Nations Resolutions, and he is not doing that.
And let me say this, our argument is not with the Iraq people, it is not
with the Republican Guard, it is not with the family, it is not with one
sect or another, religious sect in Iraq. It is with Saddam Hussan, and
your program is broadcast world wide and this gives me an opportunity to
say, "Iraq must " one way or another they will, "must live up to these UN
resolutions." and the way for instant betterment of the rest of the
civilized world including Arabs, Western Europe, whatever it is, is to
see Saddam Hussan is not there, that the Iraq people take care of that
matter, 'cause our argument is with this butcher, and I have not lost my
resolve, and he will, one way or another, live up to the UN Resolutions.

    Pat: Mr. President, thank you very much.

    George: Good to see you, Pat. Great pleasure. Thanks for coming.

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