From: lpb@STRATUS.SWDC.STRATUS.COM (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: CLINTON HELPED SELL DRUGS for MONEY for ARMS?!
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:43:01 GMT

Don't bother going to your local street corner .... just place your order with 
the White House .... after all, what do you think they call it the

		"White" House
for? ;^)
Len
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Article: 553 of sgi.talk.ratical
From: dave@ratmandu.esd.sgi.com (dave "who can do? ratmandu!" ratcliffe)
Subject: mr. "scandal-a-day, i'll-keep-lying, mainstream politician" clinton
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 16:44:53 GMT


   why do you THINK clinton's the frontrunner?  because he's already "paid"
   his dues.  people who think b.c. wud be ANY better than g.b. are simply 
   still deep into endemic denial about what actually is done in the name
   of the power elite in this once-upon-a-time,-in-the-dim-dark-past-there-
   was-an-evolving-democracy-in-this-country-but-now-its-been-locked-up-
   and-classified nation of ours.  why do we all keep thinking these kinds 
   of criminals are the only "viable" people to represent us?

   billy-boy clinton is no less of a national security junky than bushie-tail.

   ever heard of the little, back-water town of Mena, Arkansas?  you will.

(nice work margaret)


Article 10862 of alt.conspiracy:
From: stoesser@alderon.corp.sgi.com (Margaret Stoesser)
Subject: Skeletons in Clinton's Closet
Keywords: clinton contra arms drugs politics
Date: 25 Mar 92 00:11:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


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	Clinton - the front running Democratic candidate for the 
	president of the United States -- appears  to have  been
	involved in the arms-for-drugs, contra supply effort via
	Ollie North.  The following  article presents some of the 
	details known about the Arkansas link.
	********************************************************



	The following article appeared in the February 24, 1992 
	issue of The Nation magazine. By Alexander Cockburn.

		

             Chapters in the Recent History of Arkansas



       By the mid-1980s, Arkansas was a crucial link in the 
       contra war against Nicaragua being masterminded from 
       Washington. One scheme for maintaining a cover-up for 
       Oliver North's network was, it appears, played out in 
       the Governor's mansion occupied by Bill Clinton.

       Among the occupants of that same mansion was Buddy Young, 
       a man then, as now, in charge of Clinton's security.
       According to court documents filed by Terry Reed, a 
       former C.l.A. asset involved in North's contra supply 
       effort, Young was a pivotal figure in a case designed 
       to land Reed in prison not long after Reed had walked 
       out of an arms-for-drugs operation in Guadalajara, Mexico, 
       where he had been working with C.l.A. man Felix Rodriguez.

       Arkansas's role in the contra war and in an arms-for-drugs
       supply network goes back to the early 1980s and the airport
       at Mena, discussed in this column two weeks ago. A federal
       investigation aided by the Arkansas State Police established
       that Barry Seal, a drug dealer working for the Medellin cartel
       as well as with the C.l.A. and the D.E.A., had his planes 
       retrofitted at Mena for drug drops, trained pilots there and 
       laundered his profits partly through financial institutions in
       Arkansas. Seal at this time was in close contact with North,
       who acknowledged the relationship in his memoir. These were
       the years in which North was constructing his covert supply
       lines for the contras.
       
       Among those recruited by North was--so the man has sub-
       sequently asserted in court papers--Terry Reed, formerly with
       Air America in Thailand. Reed says he was working for North
       by 1983. North put Reed in touch with Seal and by 1984, Reed
       had established a base at Nella, ten miles north of Mena in
       the Ouachita National Forest. There Nicaraguan contras and
       other recruits from Latin America were trained in resupply
       missions, night landings, precision paradrops and similar 
       maneuvers. Reed, familiar with the commercial affairs of Mena,
       asserts that large sums of drug money were being laundered
       through leading Arkansas bond brokers, a pattern of investment 
       also being considered by a federal investigator just as his 
       researches were abruptly terminated.
       
       One of Reed's contacts in North's network was William Cooper, 
       another Air America veteran then working for Southern Air 
       Transport. Cooper was at the controls of the C-123, once 
       owned by Seal, that was shot down by a Sandinista soldier 
       on October 5,1986, thus--since it was loaded with arms and 
       documentation linking the crew to a chain stretching back
       to the office of Vice President George Bush--helping to fuel
       the Iran/contra scandal then bursting upon the world. That
       plane had been serviced at Mena. Cooper died in the crash.
       His crewman, Eugene Hasenfus, survived.
       
       Back in 1985, Cooper had suggested to Reed that he go to 
       Mexico and set up an operation expanding the supply network. 
       Reed agreed, traveled to Veracruz for discussions with Felix 
       Rodriguez and, in July of 1986, set up a front company,
       Machinery International, in Guadalajara.
       
       Three months later Cooper was dead and Hasenfus being
       paraded by the Sandinistas before the Managua press corps.
       Reed says that Machinery International's business, "trans-
       shipping items" in "support of our foreign policies," was put
       on hold until January 1987, this at a time when the cover-up
       was pressing forward in Washington. Seven months later, Reed
       says, he became aware that drugs were part of the shuttle 
       passing through Machinery International's premises in 
       Guadalajara and that he himself presented a likely candidate 
       as fall guy if things came unglued.
       
       Reed says he confronted Rodriguez and told him he was quitting. 
       By early September 1987 he had returned to the United States. 
       A month later Buddy Young was activating--from Bill Clinton's 
       mansion--a sequence of events designed to land the potentially 
       troublesome Reed in prison.
       
       The instrument at hand was a plane owned by Reed.
       
       On March 24, 1983, Reed's plane had been stolen from a repair 
       shop in Joplin, Missouri (Reed's home state). Prior to this, 
       Reed says, Oliver North had asked him to contribute this same 
       plane to Project Donation, a scheme by which individuals would 
       allow their fully insured planes and boats to "disappear" for 
       the sake of counterrevolution in Nicaragua. Reed claims he had 
       refused. At all events, the plane was removed while Reed was 
       out of town. Reed duly reported the theft to his insurance 
       company and received compensation. He says that in 1985 North's 
       people contacted him in Mena, told him that his plane was being 
       returned after having been in Central America for two years and 
       asked that he not report its return because they might need to 
       "borrow" it again. Reed consented. He left the plane at his 
       hangar in the North Little Rock Airport and left for Guadalajara 
       soon thereafter.
       
       On October 8, 1987, Tommy Baker, a former Arkansas State Police 
       officer and longtime friend of Buddy Young, says he happened 
       to be passing Reed's hangar when a powerful gust of wind blew 
       the door open, revealing a plane. Baker says he thought the 
       plane looked "suspicious" and so called his pal Young at the 
       Governor's mansion. Young later claimed in testimony that he 
       called the registration number on the plane into the National 
       Crime Information Center to see if a plane with that number 
       had been stolen, found no record of this and so instructed 
       Baker to check if the plane's markings had been changed, a 
       common practice of plane thieves (also a routine practice at 
       Mena and in North's Project Donation). Baker established that 
       they had been, and by October 21 the two had turned the case 
       over to the F.B.I.
       
       Under scrutiny that sequence, as set out by Baker and Young,
       did not stand up. On October 5, three days before that fortu-
       itous gust blew open the hangar door, Young was phoning
       Reed's parents masquerading as an old friend of their son,
       according to legal papers filed by Reed. Young had called in
       the plane's correct registration number to the N.C.I.C.--so
       the center's records show--on October 7, before Baker had,
       by his account, even set eyes on the plane (and before Young
       had called in with the doctored number). That same evening
       Young had called Joplin to inquire about the plane's original
       disappearance. In June of 1988, Reed was indicted on mail
       fraud charges in connection with his 1983 insurance claim on
       the plane.
       
       
       Reed, in a suit filed July 5, 1991, has charged the two with
       preparing and presenting false evidence for the purpose of 
       furthering a false prosecution. We do know a number of things
       already. Buddy Young made his calls from Bill Clinton's mansion. 
       Young and Baker have admitted to entering Reed's hangar three 
       times without a warrant. They have admitted to tampering with 
       the plane. When they finally did obtain a warrant, it was on 
       the basis of misrepresentations. They subsequently made false 
       statements to a federal grand jury as well as, on more than 
       one occasion, in hearings related to United States vs. Reed. 
       Finally, evidence that might have helped Reed's case was 
       secreted in Young's office in Clinton's mansion when it was 
       supposed to have been in federal court. A federal judge involved 
       in the case, Frank Theis, declared that Baker and Young had 
       acted with "reckless disregard for the truth." Reed was 
       acquitted when the court determined that the government
       did not have enough legitimate evidence to convict him.
       Reed's lawyer, John Wesley Hall, told my colleague Bryce
       Hoffman that it is extremely unlikely that a police officer
       would ever be convicted of perjury in Arkansas.
       
       In early 1988, while his security chief was embroiled in the
       case against Reed, also while Lawrence Walsh was accumulating 
       evidence for his prosecutions in the Iran/contra affair,
       Bill Clinton gave a job to another contra veteran recently 
       returned from Honduras--Larry Nichols. As I described here
       two weeks ago, Nichols was set up with a job as director of
       marketing in the Arkansas Development Finance Authority.  Later 
       in 1988, asked about this by a journalist, Clinton hastily 
       fired Nichols. Seeking retribution, Nichols prepared a lawsuit, 
       from whose allegations Star drew its story concerning
       Gennifer Flowers.
       
       As these allegations caught fire in January, Nichols confided
       --so a member of the Arkansas Committee in Fayetteville tells us
       --that Buddy Young had phoned to tell him as an old friend that 
       if he kept this up he was "a dead man." On January 25, the night 
       before Bill Clinton was scheduled to go before the nation on 60 
       Minutes to deny an affair with Flowers, Nichols put his name to 
       a statement crafted to discredit all his previous assertions, 
       concluding that "in trying to destroy Clinton" it had turned out 
       that "there's not a whole lot of difference between me and what 
       the reporters are doing today."
       
       Final thought. If, in the old days, a gentleman had no secrets 
       from his valet, a modern governor has no secrets from his 
       personal security chief, particularly in the matter of making
       unofficial assignations.
       

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	Bill Clinton is knee  deep in  scandals, yet he continues to
	be the front running democratic candidate.  Good people have
	dropped  out  of the democratic nomination race because they 
	haven't been able to  compete with  the  massive  amounts of 
	money Clinton has been able to raise.  Let's expose this guy
	and get him out of the race once and for all. 
							-ms




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margaret stoesser 
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