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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:19:35 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil

Thanks, on behalf of me and others who feel that there's use in a tamil
forum. For my immediate concerns, borders and fracticidal politics have
divided Tamils in India from the ones in Sri Lanka for the last 40 yrs.
At least in foreign countries, we should be able to discuss what
concerns an average Tamil regardless of his birthplace. But, it didn't
stop me from learing about all I can about Tamil Nadu. Simply put, all
of us are Tamil/Malayali descendants who have a flowering Tamil
heritage. And I'm proud of my heritage...I always identify myself as a
Tamil first, in U.S.
I would bet that there are more Tamils sitting around the world than
anyone else from India/Indian subcontinent groups. People who are
opposed to the formation of soc.culture.tamil should just look around.
I'm studying in Pittsburg, USA. From what I've seen so far, Tamils are
the biggest junk of any group from India. From Malaysia to Canada, there
are tens of thousands of Tamil descendants and first generation
immigrants living. We should commence our efforts to create this forum
without further delay.
From: kodavar@eemips.tamu.edu (Friendly Ghost)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: One less ignorant Indian girl
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:08:02 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <sduw4oC00WC0MJ5wUC@andrew.cmu.edu> pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>
>
...stuff deleted 

>I am not the only person who misunderstood her poorly worded message. However,
>I am sorry that I misunderstood her statement, and I am sending this
>message to the bboard to make sure no one uses her as an example to
>make a point about Indian girls' attitudes towards sex.

Dont generalize. 

ravi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 05:59:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.041645.11894@en.ecn.purdue.edu> surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:
>	(1)  About 50% of US marriages end up in divorce (didn't
>		the couple KNOW their partner pretty well?).  Why
>		are so many love marriages still together but
>		devoid of love and caring?  (Can it be that
>		romantic love is NOT permanent?  Can it be that
>		the success of failure of a marriage has nothing to
>		with how the two "met"?)

I don't see why divorce should be necessarily considered a failure.
To use a rather crude analogy, when I upgrade from a 286 PC to a
386 PC, I don't consider the 286 PC a failure.  In fact it might
have been the greatest thing around when I bought it.  But ten 
years later it is time for a change.  I think divorce particularly
in an advanced society should be seen in this light.

I think the same is true for couples.   A boy and a girl who were
right for each other when they were both poor starving grad students
may not be right for each other when one is a top corporate manager
and the other is an ardent PC (not the PC above) crusader.  And when
they recognize this and decide to part amicably I don't see why the
divorce should be considered a failure.

So to answer your question about "knowing their partner pretty
well", the answer is yes they knew their partner pretty well
when they got married.  But human beings change, grow, mature,
flower, etc.  And so either they might not know their partner
now, or might know that they don't want to be together anymore.
Neither possibility implies failure, at least to me.

Sanjoy Ghosh
ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 18:55:00 EDT
From: <KXK140@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: looking for kunal joarder at florida atlantic

Hi,

If anyone knows Kunal's e-mail or telephone number, please inform me. Nothing i
mportant. Just to keep in touch.
Regards,
Krishna Kishore
Penn State University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srtata@eng.umd.edu (Srinivasa Rao Tata)
Subject: Wanted Some Information ..
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:02:17 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa

Hai folks,

I want some information about financial aid chances, cost of living,
about the Computer Science department & the faculty for the following
universities.

(1) Louisiana State Univ, Baton Rouge
(2) Univ. of Georgia, Athens
(3) univ. of  Texas A & I , at Greenville..(not sure,but not A & M )
(4) Wright State univ.,OH
(5) Univ of Westchester, PA 
(6) univ of Oklahoma, Norman,
(7) Western Michigan univ.


Please e-mail to : srtata@eng.umd.edu
                   Ph : 301-441-3779



Thanks in advance

Srinivas Tata

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: THE LIGHT OF MY LIFE......
Keywords: WOMEN, WOMEN AND WOMEN (NO WINE/SONG !!)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:46:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.212551.5020@ncsa.uiuc.edu> vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan) writes:

>>    Imagination was given to a man to compensate him for what he is not,
>>                               ^^^               ^^^          ^^ ^^
>                                person            them         they are
>>
>>       and a sense of humor provided to console him for what he is.
>                                                 ^^^          ^^ ^^
>>
>                                                 them         they are.

                                          
There are those who believe that PC is passe.

George



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ee470a19@engrs.unl.edu (Subbarao Arumilli)
Subject: Shanti where are you
Keywords: I am looking for Shanti kumar gogineni who is doing his ms in universi  
Organization: College of Engineering & Technology, University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:03:17 GMT

or address( email ) please inform me to the following email address. He is from  
 hyderabad (cbit).

email:ee470a19@engrs.unl.edu
ph.no.402-474-7308.
Address:A.Subbarao
	2222 vine st. #202,
	Lincoln,
	Nebraska-68503.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13814 soc.culture.pakistan:6155 soc.culture.soviet:2971
From: nc2@ukc.ac.uk (N.Chadha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Central Asian Republics and the Subcontinent
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:29:53 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


	I am doing research on the subcontinent region. I would like to
collect as much information as possible on two major issues.

1) How are Pakistan and India developing relations with the newly formed
central asian republics of the former Soviet Union.

2) What is pakistan doing to implement General Mirza Aslam Beg's doctrine of
strategic depth? By this I am refering to the attempts by Pakistan to bring
about a muslim block comprising of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey and the
Central Asian republics.

	Also if anyone can provide information of any transfer of Nuclear
Technology (material or expertise) to any islamic country in the Middle East
or Pakistan from the Central Asian Republics especially Kajaskhtan.

	If someone is doing a similar research and would like to exchange
information then please E-Mail me. Thanks.

				Neeta Chadha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: Marital alliance for my sister!
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:41:33 GMT

In article <35894@ogicse.ogi.edu> sastry@ogicse.ogi.edu (Sastry A V R R) writes:
>In article <204412@unix.cis.pitt.edu> gyanesh@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Gyanesh K Gupta) writes:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>This is for my sister. We are looking for a nice, educated groom for my
>>sister. She is 27 years old, 5' tall and has done B.Sc. (Biology) and 
>
>(Stuff deleted ...)
>
>Man! in the last 6 articles 4 were matrimonials. Why don't you guys 
>
>open up a new news group soc.matrimonials.indian and put your junk 
>there?

I don't think this is junk.  Let them be.  Come to think of it, I
wouldn't mind finding a young Indian woman who doesn't mind an
American myself.  :)
-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS   0-0   at Tigers Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
 End the strike.  Get back on the ice.  Get the playoffs going.
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: H.1, H.4 questionnaire:
Keywords: H.1, H.4 multiple entry visa
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:26:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsa.1992Apr8.212620.22074
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Originator: vijay@newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Apr8.175657.18072@Princeton.EDU> sankaran@morticia.princeton.edu (Dr. Subramanian Sankaran) writes:
>
>
>Hi! I have (only) six responses so far! So this short summary!
>Please, if more of you send in data... I will post a more
>useful summary; thanks again.                    ...Subra.(4/08/92)
>                                     (sankaran@phoenix.princeton.edu)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Multiple
>Entry
>Visa When	Where	reason &comments: 		Name
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>H-1 12/91   Qubec,	partially...risk?,		vijay
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess it might've been distorted when compressed, to clarify, the
reason was 'partially because it was "risk free" in Quebec'. In tune with
other comments, no questions were asked, all you need are the documents
listed in other notes.

>	    Canada	easy to reach US for
>			additional docs if needed.
>

As is true of Mexico too. I wanted to stress the possibility of being
rejected and having avenues open to get back to the U.S.
-- 

Vanitas vanitatum et omnia vanitas!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:57:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.160852.2836@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un034156@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>	DAN FIELDING (ABCDEFG)
                          ^^^^


>		     IMMIGRATED FROM GUJRAT.
                     ^^^^

Isn't this too good to be true?

BTW, the play "Son of Bottoms up" had a great skit "Gujju goes to phoren".
I saw the play in Bhaidas (V.Parle), which in effect, means that about
 half the crowd were gujjus. They took it rather sportingly.

It went something like this; (I remember only about 5% of the skit)

Bharat Dabholkar: "So you read the Times of India?"
Burjor Patel: "Heck, no. Times is full of Aids!"
BD: Aids?
BP: Aids!
BD: What do you mean "Aids"?
BP: You know, May-trimonial aids, tender aids, employment aids and so on..


-------
The skit had a hilarious exchange between a Sardar and a Gujju in London.
Does any chap out there recollect it?

Arun Simha

                  
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: burra@sun1.coe.ttu.edu (Gangadhar Burra)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: Texas Tech
Keywords: citizenship
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:30:32 GMT

Would you please clarify what you mean by tamils not being citizens
of either India or Sri-Lanka. Did you mean to say that being a tamil
is of a greater significance than being a citizen of your country? 

Gangadhar.
From: raj@breccia.cs.odu.edu (M.P. Krishna Raj)
Subject: soc.culture.tamil
Originator: raj@breccia.ocean.odu.edu
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:39:06 GMT

Since tamils are scattered throughout the world and many of them seems
to be neither citizens of india nor sri-lanka, why not we create
soc.culture.tamil.international

Why not we start discussing about this from today-Tamil New year day.


Krishna raj


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@caddac1.uwaterloo.ca (Jagadesh Kumar M.)
Subject: Sanskrit and the world
Originator: kumar@caddac1.waterloo.edu
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:35:11 GMT

	


	Sometime ago I met a scientist from Tashkent in a conference and
	his name is Muktar Ahmed. He was talking with a group of us 
	and asked us, "Do you know the meaning of my name Muktar? It comes
	from your own Sanskrit language Mukti means liberation". 

	I was also told that  in Russia among some communities the word
	Agni is used to mean fire.

	My Russian colleague's name here is Sadovnikov. The first part
	of his name sado means practice and is very similar to the
	Sanskrit word Sadhana.

	The best book I have come across on the subject of Sanskrit
	links with other world languages is "World vedic heritage"
	by Shri P.N. Oak.


	Jagadesh Kumar.
From: venks@separator.ecn.purdue.edu (Kareenhalli V Venkatesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Math..
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:00:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedic Math..
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Keywords:

 
   Sometime back I wrote that a Math prof. from IITM who took up
   Sanyasa was Swami Dyananda Sarswati. As I got a mail from one
   Vidyasagar pointing out my mistake and He was right. It is
   Swami Parmananda Bharathi. (Thanks, I deleted your mail by
   mistake). And I should not have commited that mistake as he
   is my relative. Also I am not sure whether he has written
   any book on Vedic Math, although I have heard him speak a
   lot about it. Sorry about that.

                                     venkatesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rxd20@po.CWRU.Edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Subject: Re: Response to INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:07:07 GMT


Well said Sagar. I agree with what he is saying. 

Ramesh
--
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:09:38 GMT
Reply-To: sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes on soc.culture.indian:

)Oh you mean to say that I should ask permission for posting something
)on the net? Does that mean that *you* or someone else will decide what
)I can say and what I can't? Isn't that againist the principle of 
)*unmoderated* group?

FYI every Email is copyrighted by the Sender. Email and Usenet are
quite different in that respect. Every Usenet posting is considered to
be in Public domain unless a copyright notice appears in the posting.

)Njan

PS: BTW, to the person who is testing pretty anonymously abusing ucbvax's
facility, you are only spoiling the trust. It won't be too long before 
that service will be taken off if people like you abuse it.

Sridhar.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.srilanka,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bhaktha@wam.umd.edu (Ravi Bhakthavatchalam)
Subject: ACCOMODATION FOR SUMMER
Originator: bhaktha@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:28:00 GMT

Hi there pal!
Did U get a summer job in Washington D.C. Metropolitan area and looking for
accomodation through the summer? Then, this message is for U!

Accomodation available in a fully furnished 2BD RM apartment in College Park
area. 5 min. walk from University of Maryland campus. Great place to stay and
commute to D.C. (about 7 miles) and surrounding areas by METRO BUS & RAIL.

 U would be sharing the apartment with 3 Indian grad. students and paying
 $ 212.50  + 1/4 Utilities (approx. $15) per month.

	INTERESTED ?  CALL RAVI @ (301)-441-1342 or
		      SEND MAIL TO bhaktha@wam.umd.edu  or
				   bhaktha@eng.umd.edu

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sodhi@news.miami.edu (Rajpal Sodhi)
Subject: Re: Why do most Indians .....
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:28:00 GMT

>
>What IS an American accent?  My accent is far from that of someone
>from New York, Atlanta, LA, or even Boston for that matter.  there is
>NO such thing as an 'American' accent.
>-- 
> Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
> (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
> Go BLUE JAYS   0-0   at Tigers Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
> End the strike.  Get back on the ice.  Get the playoffs going.

the fish know not what water is for they live in it  :)

( by someone or the other, approximately...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mmc@po.CWRU.Edu (Manish M. Chokshi)
Subject: Distribution: oh, test
Reply-To: mmc@po.CWRU.Edu (Manish M. Chokshi)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Distribution: oh
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 21:39:44 GMT


test

-- 
Manish M. Chokshi			Email: mmc@po.cwru.edu
Phase II Medical Student		Voice: 216-791-8815
Case Western Reserve University
__________________________________________________________________
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More on TN chief
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:18:32 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I am getting some personal mails from ranjith suresh supporting LTTE. I request
him to post his opinions in usenet not to e-mail me.

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY E-MAIL TO ME ABOUT THIS.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Posts on Divorce and netiquette
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:40:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.152547.4607@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:

>I posted some stuff on SCI on "divorce", which some felt was irrelevant. I 
>thought this group was mainly for indians living in the US, either temporarily
>or permanently, but not restricted to them. (There is no means to restrict 
>access :-) ) Anyway, some felt that these things do not happen to Indian 
>marriages.

>But, we are here in the U.S for some time, right ? It would not hurt to know
>about "divorce". At the work place, at school, we have friends, maybe indians
>who are going through it. A few articles on "divorce" should be nothing to 
>fuss about. Or is is taboo ?

I think what you're seeing is some good old fashioned 'lets brush it under
the carpet'.

>The issue of "nettiquette" has been raised and addressed in many groups. 
>I got a bunch of replies in my personal mail, on a subject that was posted to
>the net. I did not invite, nor solicit personal mail. Hence, there is no
>binding on my part to keep it private. 

Well, for the most part people send mail because they do not want to address
these issues on the net for one reason or another.I don't think that you
have any obligation to keep such communications confidential

George
From: pvr@rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Date: 10 Apr 1992 17:55:03 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In article <1992Apr10.155958.15473@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, picardo@ces.cwru.edu (Leslie Picardo) writes:

> In article <1992Apr10.140932.537@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma) writes:

       >     Sankara said: Self is real and World is illusion;
       >	           and Self is the World.
 
 
 
              Oh I get it. Its like when Bill Clinton admits he smoked pot
              (Reality) but tells us that he didn't inhale (Illusion ). 
 
              But I still can't figure out - if Self is the World and the
              World is Illusion, then the Self should be Illusion. But Sankara
              says Self is real.  
 
              Sankara must have been in a constant state  of euphoria.

While I don't claim to have a great understanding of Sankara's works, let me
just point out an assumption you are making in your criticism of sankara's
statement.

If X is Y and Y is Z, then should X be Z? And, do you precisely understand
what Sankara was meaning by the realtion "to be"?

You are _assuming_ transitivity of this relation just because you are
_used to_ systems of logic where transitivity of most relations used holds.

I find it objectionable to ridicule Sankara (whom many respect as a great
thinker) without a serious and sincere attempt to understand him.

--------
PVR Narasimha Rao
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 14:59:30 -0400 
From: "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Piddlers on the Roof



As far as the writers in the "Muslim Situation in India"
cleverly targetting their audience -- I came across the
book in an obscure corner of the library only because I
was in an argument (with a Pakistani) and seeking data
to justify my claim that there are substantial numbers
of Muslims in the Indian Armed Forces. [incidentally
the intake of new recruits is 2% Muslim is what I found].

Some clever targetting !!!!

And as for me naively believing all that these writers
have written -- I have my own viewpoint which I've tried
to keep out (it shows in my selection of essays, however).

I'm also very aware of just how many Hindus I'm annoying
by posting these articles. And frankly, I don't give a
damn !

-arun gupta
ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raja@chroma.cps.msu.edu (Narayan S. Raja)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: citizenship
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: raja@cps.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University, CPS Department


In article <12381@tamsun>, (Chandrasekaran Periannan) writes:

< 	Tamil is an official language in Singapore and have separate TV and
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^

Now, now, now.  How many TV channels does 
Singapore have?  India?


< Radio channels for Tamils which they did not have to fight for, in stark
  ^^^^^

As you must have noticed during your stay
in TN, the various "Vaanoli nilayams"
broadcast mostly in Tamil.


Narayan Sriranga Raja.