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From: hjkim@sol.UVic.CA (Hyong-Joong Kim)
Subject: names
Followup-To: naming thread
Summary: syllable final consonants
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 22:45:53 GMT

A while ago, there was a thread concerning names in Korean.   A brief
thought struck me at that time, however, electronic warriors seem to 	
be occupied with 92-election in ROK.  Well, ...

In Chinese, only two sounds are allowed in the syllable final position.
They are -ng and -n.  In Japanese, only one sound -n is OK in the same
position.  Of course, zero is another option too, e.g. CV (ka, na, .. hi).
When you name a kid or a kitten, a horse, whatever, the nasal sounds 
probably give you a boring image.  So, if you choose -l, -k, -m, -t, -p, etc.,
it will be a bit charming.  Yuri (one netter's name reminds me of the common
border btw Korea and Russia) is an interesting choice.  One last thing 
I like to add is that the president-elect in the states is called 
BC or the incumbent one GB  ???
I hope you guys use Youngsam Kim the president-elect, and so on so forth. 
It was ugly to read Kim Dae Jung, Kim Young Sam, Chung Ju Young (spell OK?), 
etc. in abbreviated forms.  They are almost 70ish or older men.
From: An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: 02 Jan 93 04:08 PST
Subject: RE:KOREAN ECONOMY
Nf-ID: #R:ut-emx.uucp:86047:cdp:1473700045:000:1503
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!anlyyao    Jan  2 04:08:00 1993


I have to reply in a probably too small nutshell - and that already is part
of the trouble with the Korean economy:  P R O T E C T I O N I S M Even
competition is under gouvernment control here in Korea, i.e. the "fight"
between DACOM and KT. In consequence I and my company has to pay high prices
for data communication.

The key to Taiwan's success is the deeply felt, but also expressed insecurity
of the people there. They just have no choice than to tie themselve as strongly
as possible into the international net of trade. The west dropped the hot potatoTaiwan, which allowed Taiwan to develop its maturity better, than Korea ever
could.

Annother aspect, which usually is not discussed when speaking about the economy
is, how resources are used, especially the human resources. In Korea women
practically have no access to careers in science (and R&D). In this respect
also Taiwan could improve (as my country could as well), but - I guess - it
is at minimum 10 years ahead of Korea. (My wife worked in Taiwan's Academia
Sinica and in the USA in Biology. In Korea she made very disappointing expe-
riences - starting with the "presents" expected by professors from their
students. That not the way, how a country can train an elite!)

I don't really know, wether behind these differences is a "Korean" way or a
"Taiwanese" way. Taiwan perhaps just was lucky enough to have to be quite
painfully forced to develop an own survival strategy.

happy new year,
               Goetz

Seoul 1993/01/02

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Ji-Yeok-Gam-Jung
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:04:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.172044.9678@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>But I think we can also cure by full fledged 'Jibang jachije' under
>the presidential system. 

yes, good point.
but i don't think YS is honest to do full 'JiBang JachiJe'.
In present presidential system, i think
the best and most promising way to cure the Ji-Yeok-Gam-Jung
is to elect a person from central region as our next president!
 ( like Chung DaeChul in MINJOO)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: Evaluation of YS' Grand-Merge [Was Re: aftermath of election]
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:25:03 GMT


> From: sl26@ellis.uchicago.edu (sangjin  lee)
> 
> That's exactly why Mr. Roh and Park Chul Un started working on the idea of
> grand merge.
  |||||||||||
> When the heads of the parties were negotiating, DJP wanted to make sure
> that they change the Constitution to the Parliament system, which all
> agreed. So, their big picture was merge, changing to the parliamentary
> system, and shared power between three factions. YS Kim had something
                                                   ||||||||||||||||||||
> different in mind. That's why he broke the secret deal. He wanted to become
  |||||||||||||||||
> a president. But, you see, the big picture didn't change a lot. That's why
> I wrote that DLP will try the Parliamentary system again 'cause they're
> concerned about the post-YS era.

I want to evaluate YS' participation in the conservative-grand-merge.

At that time, I could hardly understand him as one of his supporters. Somewhat
disappointed, got angry with him. I got more angry with DJ for loosing the
chance of having non-military president in '87. I really worried about his,
YS', future. I thought YS will be destroyed after being used for a time by
Mr. Roh and Park Chul Un.

Now, he became the president. Actually, he himself got the position of
presidency of Korea with the un-intentional aid of Mr. Roh. 
What does it mean? Is it not a "NON-BLOOD REVOLUTION" against the
ruling of military power? 

If the situation of 4-parties' share of assembly seats were continued, could
we be able to succeed in electing non-military president? As long as DJ and
YS had been competing for the president with another guy from ruling military
group, we would have failure again. 

What YS did during last 4 years seems to be great for Korean democracy.
Whether it was intentioal or not, YS and Roh did great, didn't they? If YS
did not make a success in election 92, we should have paid a lot to have a
non-military president, in terms of time, blood, persecution to opposition
parties, etc.

He defeated 6-th Republic group through the power-game in DLP. Now, who is
the owner(?) of DLP? He got it through fighting without loosing students.
Otherwise, many young progressive students would have been prisoned without
great success.

So, he made two Kim's competition in election 92. And he defeated DJ through
the most historic-clean voting.

He defeated two opponents one by one, not at the same time. Is he not
brilliant? By his good fighting, what do we have now? We are to have
NON-MILITARY GOVERMENT. Isn't it great? During the NO-BLOOD REVOLUTION or
CIVILIAN COUP how many people get injured?

I buy his expression "I went into the cave of tigers to captivate tigers".

Hoping the change of Constitution into "4-year two-term presidency".

Han
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Looking for Korean Playboy
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 03:11:55 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <85976@ut-emx.uucp> piglet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kyung Hee) writes:
>    This no joke.  I'm looking for magazines like Playboy and Penthouse

	Yes, there is one called Nol-Za-Nom, of which Dec. issue
	Shim HyeJin is the Centerfold.

	What a Joke!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: ARG!! Too Long to read!!
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 08:50:10 GMT
Organization: What Org?

	Come on, people!

	I don't care what you guys argue about netiquette,
	since it's not something we can sue or being
	arrested for but something very nice to those who read
	if followed.

	But PLEASE trim down the quoted (not your comments),
	lots of times, I lose my temper when I see 3 pages of quoted
	article with couple of lines of poster's own.

	And it's pretty hard to maintain KILL files these days;
	any suggestion on some highly intelligent regular expression for
	KILL?.

	I wish I can kill by the ratio of quoted per the whole.

	I wish they put their own before the quoted if they really wanted
	to do so.

Daeshik "wants-to-read-news-easy" Kim
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From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: To Jung
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:46:24 GMT

In article <Dec.21.16.44.14.1992.8890@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:

>What do you want from him, a position in his cabinet or something?
>And you want him to know how you feel about him, perhaps you should
>send him a lengthy letter with your heart, instead of posting it on the net.
>He's never going to read yours, sorry for you.  Get a life !!!!

You must be the first-time netter of this 'soc.culture.korean'.  Have you
seen my articles during last pre-election week?  If you do, you'll
understand why I posted that article.  I was an ardent DJ supporter - 
poster of "DJ for president".

Anyway, I'm so unhappy about that kind of a personal attack.  It is a shame
of 'soc.culture.korean' newsgroup.  If you give me such nice words, I'll 
return.

" At a view of piggy, everyone looks like piggy.
  At a view of flatterer, everyone looks like flatterer."

>Jung
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Aftermath of election
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:11:11 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Message-I.d.: <85860@ut-emx.uucp>


 In article <85860@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
>Subject: Re: aftermath of election
>Message-ID: <1992Dec27.043717.21790@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
>
>Prez. is above the law??? Great!!!! I didn't know that. 
>Was it why prez. Roh and his Minja Government BROKE the law?
>That's why Democratic party tried to block it. 
> 
>        
>        Logic is Ligic.  Do not bring your personal emotion here.
>        Don't you know that almost all countries give the head of country 
>        such previlege including USA?  You do not need to be proud of or 
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            I agree to Mr. ByungTae Lee's opinion. All the system is
         not perfect. and individual and government must be regarded 
         differently. This is the inevitable to the earthly government system

         ^
>        ashamed by this.
>
>        I do not need to point out problems of this thread. You must be 
>        confused about "legal crime" with "political responsibility."
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
         Right!!!!
>
>        If we follow your reasoning, even laymen who supported Roh or MINJA
>        should have been jailed because they were on his side.
>
>        Please do not distort my posting any more. I did not blame Democratic 
>        party but just pointed out the legal problems in your example because
>        it was you who brought this issue.  What I wanted to say was that 
>        the world is not so simple as you insist. Thank you


Logic can not explain and solve the practical problems. Sometimes 
it is necessary to deal with special and sensitive cases between two 
countries.

Refer to John F kennedy. He even made a business with USSR behind the
surface politics.

Of cause, it is desirable that all the logical dicision matches the
practical measures and current complicate international problem, but
it seems almost impossible to handle such a problem without underwater
deal. I believe that this world deserves this kind of mismatching.
As I become older and older, I feel that logic seems not work by itself.
and it requires some degree of ambiguity.
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: What Is President Kim's..
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:18:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfEFIE200iV4Q2pgsO
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi,

.

             I would like to know what Presidents Kim's thoughts/policy
on the reunification of Hangul is. And, how important of a topic this
was  during the election. Thanks..
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Another answer
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:25:36 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Dec29.184348.28387@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:
>i.e, he disobeyed the law. what do think about his act?

	Simply, he broke the law.

	However, it's totally different from the situation in Korea
	because once most of Koreans in Japan were Janapnese Citizen
	before who do not need to go thru finger-printing and suddenly
	they are not anymore; and both of the above transition were
	not from their own will.

	The problem might be whether they are Japanese Citizen or not.
	The problem also might be they get fair treatment or opportunity
	not the law itself.

	I understand what you're trying to say; but there will be no
	conclusion on that; and if I had to go with one, I would
	go with following the law but vote for the change.

	You cannot just break the law because you think it's bad law;
	otherwise, we rather not have it at all.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Subject: Re: Christmas Eve in Seoul (Little bit long!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:37:18 GMT

In <103148@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu (Rachael H. Seung) writes:
>EonNi OBba AnNyung!

>My name is Rachael (aka HeJa).  Every Christmas eve, I am tormented by
>a horrible experience I had at a department store in Seoul.  Although
>..........
>--
>Rachael H. Seung                   *   *         Salsa Today 
>hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu       \|/ \|/        Shopping Tomorrow

The more I read Hyunsuk's (Ooops, Heja's) articles, the more I find 
his talent in writing. His imagination is great... I guess this guy
can work for James to write lyrics although I do not know huynsuk
is cynical enough to qualify James' standard. ;-)


youngwhan.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: forward from s.c.a.a.
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 22:19:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.204648.27410@almserv.uucp> g9utxu@fnma.COM writes:
>In article 72289@cup.portal.com, Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com () writes:
>>Spring disturbance??? What the heck is that? It was a riot, and the
>>Koreans didn't do anything wrong except be stupid enough to set up
>>business in black areas. Do the Right Thing did make things worse becase
>>it didn't state the proper conclusion that looting and rioting is wrong,
>>and anyone who thinks this sort of behavior is fine shouldn't be surprised
>>when the Texas Southern University Band shamed America, and blacks in
>>particular by looting CD players and walkmen en masse just because it
>>seemed to be the thing to do at the time.

Stupidity of Korean merchants in South Central LA was to believe in American
dream on its face value, and no single minded soul has right to use any noun
to make a point against suffering of those who believed in hard work.

LA riot is entirely another thread.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta)
Subject: FELIZ ANO NOVO!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 23:41:43 GMT

Ei mocada! Tem alguem ai'????
Eu fui a unica obrigada a trabalhar hoje, e'???
Azar meu, prisioneira da torre aqui na Hoover Tower.

FELIZ ANO NOVO!!!
From: aninha@khk.ghia.rhein-main.de (Ana Lucia Kuehlborn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: E-Mail em Belo Horizonte e redondezas
Keywords: Belo Horizonte
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:22:10 GMT

Gostaria de entrar em contato com pessoas que possuem E-Mail, possivelmente
pertencentes a red BRAS-NET ou SOC.CULTURE.BRASIL, residentes em Belo
Horizonte ou redondezas. Por favor, informacoes por mail para:

       aninha@khk.ghia.rhein-main.de

Desde ja, obrigada, e um Feliz Ano Novo

Aninha


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: Sistema Judiciario no Brasil
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:05:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1gs2omINN2ki@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cp454@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ricardo Guimaraes) writes:
>
>Bom, uma diferenca e que nos usamos a lei napoleonica, onde o acu-
>sado e julgado culpado ate ser provado o contrario. Pelo menos foi
>o que me disseran.

Isto esta completamente errado.  Nao e verdade que o accusado esteja
presumido culpado ate ser provado innocente no codigo Napoleon.  (Isto
e meramente um preconceito comum nos Estados Unidos, mas sem nenhuma
base de verdade.)

Alem disto, a minha impressao (mas posso estar errado neste respeito)
era que a lei brasileira era baseada diretamente no direito romano,
via Portugal, e nao no codigo Napoleon.  Mas nao acredito que 
isto afetaria a questao de ser presumido inocente, que tambem ja
era parte do direito romano.

Luc B
From: F_CAVALCANTE@unhh.unh.edu (Francisco S Cavalcante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Video americano e' compativel com o brasileiro?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:53:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unhh.unh.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

Prezados colegas,
Fui informado que o sistema americano de fitas de video e' o NTS-C e no
Brasil e' PAL-M. Ministrarei um treinamento no Brasil e gostaria de levar
algumas fitas de video. Terei algum problema para apresenta'-las em um
VCR no Brasil?
Obrigado por informacoes.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: Rick.Bronson <Rick.Bronson@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Recife
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:15:11 GMT

Caros amigos de rede,
  Eu preciso ums enderecos e-mail de cidade Recife. Tem?
Obridago
Rick
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: carmen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Carmen Tesser)
Subject: literature
Originator: carmen@casbs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Distribution: usa brazil
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:22:59 GMT

For a current research project, I am interested in Brazilian
literature lists currently used in university entrance exams in
Brazil.  I am particularly interested in the lists given to
prospective students who are preparing for the Vestibular.  Can anyone
help?  Please reply to carmen@casbs.Stanford.EDU.  

Se a lista nao for dividida em literatura brasileira e outras
literatures, eu gostaria de ver toda a lista.  Obrigada.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: aac@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Antonio Da Costa)
Subject: NOTICIAS DA VOZ DO BRASIL
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:27:27 GMT


	Resumo das noticias que ouvi na Voz do Brasil
hoje.
	A sessao de julgamento por crime de responsabilidade
do Collor de Mello foi aberta pela manha e iniciado 
o processo de chamada das testemunhas. Apos trans-
corrido algum tempo da abertura o advogado
dativo, Marcos Coelho, leu a carta de renuncia do Collor.
A sessao foi suspensa. Quando a sessao reiniciou o pre-
sidente do Supremo, Sidney Sanches, deixou para os
senadores a decisao da continua@ao ou nao da sessao de 
julgamento. Foi feita uma vota@ao e 73 senadores votaram
pela continua@ao do julgamento, somente 8 senadores votaram
contra. A sessao continua neste momento, ja tento sido
ouvidas varias testemunhas. Se o Collor for condenado
ficara 8 anos sem direito a concorrer a qualquer cargo
publico.
	Nao ficou muito claro, mas parece que o Itamar Franco
assumiu a presidencia 2 horas apos a leitura da carta
de renuncia. Amanha o Itamar fara um pronunciamento
ao pais anunciando as diretrizes do seu governo.
	Por enquanto e so isto.
VIVA O BRASIL!!!!!

Antonio Azevedo - CMU.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: beto@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (alberto.avritzer)
Subject: Collor condenado a perder direitos  poli'ticos por 8 anos
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:43:22 GMT




Pois e' turma, ficamos livres do Collor por 8 anos.

Prosegue agora o julgamento por crime comum.

-Beto
eagle.hr.att.com!beto
From: jlb@thor.inesc.pt (Jose' Luis B. Borbinha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: A DIARY OF DISGRACE
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:48:23 GMT
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.

hra2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Hibatur Rahman Ahmad) writes:
: Contribution by: Iztok
: 
: The New York Times              Editorials              Sunday, December 20
: 
: 
:                 WHAT HAS THE WORLD DONE FOR BOSNIA?
: 
: 

WHAT IS BOSNIA DOING FOR THE WORLD?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: psarli@cs.sunysb.edu (Paulo Sarli)
Subject: Alguem ai' em Chicago ?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:58:31 GMT

	Alo pessoal, estou me transferindo para a Universidade
de Illinois at Chicago e estou procurando um lugar para morar.
Fui informado que ha' muita gente boa morando la' e eu gostaria
de entrar em contato com eles se possivel. Se alguem arrumar
um tempinho para me dar umas dicas ficarei muito grato. No 
mais Feliz Natal e um Prospero 1993 !

Paulo F. Sarli

Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: mayor@bayes.ece.cmu.edu (Gilberto S. Mayor)
Subject: Renuncia Collor
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:44:12 GMT

From flor@ibase.br Tue Dec 29 06:55:04 1992
Subject: MSG do Paulo -Renuncia do Collor
Status: R


O Collor acabou de renunciar. A sessao do "impeachment" comecou.
A testemunha de defesa Thales Ramalho nao compareceu. A defesa
entao pediu o adiamento da sessao dizendo ser necessaria a pre-
senca dele. O presidente do processo, Sidney Sanches, indeferiu o 
pedido e mandou chamar a primeira testemunha, Francisco Gros.
Na hora que iam comecar as perguntas, o advogado de defesa apresen-
tou a renuncia do Collor. O julgamento foi, entao, suspenso. As
11:30 uma sessao extra-ordinaria do Congresso recebera a renuncia
e declarara o cargo vago. Ai, o julgamento reinicia e o presidente
Sidney Sanches decide se continua o julgamento ou nao. Este e' o
grande segredo que ele tem guardado todos estes dias.


Paulo
From: jch@leffe.cma.fr (Jean-Charles Bonin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: research in Rio
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:32:14 GMT
Organization: Institut Superieur d'informatique et d'Automatique

Can someone email to me the answers of these questions:

  - are there a robotic department in the university of RIO ?
  - do you know peoples (manufacturers, professors or researchers)
  working in industrial control process or industrial software 
  (please send me their email address)?

thank you very much ... bye
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil