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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Can Server and Client be in different areas?
From: "Steven L. Bareman" <BAREMAN@HOPE.BITNET>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:12:00 EST

Hello,
 
Is it possible to have a client (or clients) in a different
DECnet area number than the Pathworks server?
 
For example:
 
Can I have a Server which is node number 51.967 and a client
which is node 4.4 ?
 
It didn't work for me when I tried it.  The server node 51.967
is set up as an Area  (Type area) router.
 
Do I have to have a VAX or some other server in the 4.x area
doing Area routing to make this work?  If so, is there any way
to have a PC do the Area routing?
 
Thanks,
 
-Steve Bareman
Hope College
BAREMAN@HOPE.BITNET
 
p.s. Thanks for all the help trying to get my VAX not to
overwhelm the Cabletron E1010 card.  No luck yet, but I am going
to try a Cabletron E1112 soon.
From: etxjesm@inetx2
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: MS-Win on diskless PC's ???
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:32:07 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: etxjesm

Hi.
Is there anybody who runs MS-Windows from the VMS-server ??
Any advise about it whould be very nice.
I hope it will be possible to run Windows even on our diskless
PC's soon.
Looking forward hearing from all of you....
-- 
                   Jan-Erik S|derholm
                   Ericsson Telecom AB
                   Norrk|pings fabriken
                   Box 72
                   601 02 Norrk|ping
                   Sweden
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Change of Moderator
From: Mark Powers <MP14STAF@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:28:02 EDT

The lanworks list here at MIAMIU will have a new moderator starting
sometime next week.  Effective May 8th I will be leaving Miami University
for the business world.
 
Kent Covert (KACOVERT@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU) will be the new moderator.
Kent is currently Manager of Miami's Residence Hall MicroCenters, and
manages Pathworks and Novell networks for us.
 
It's been a pleasure lurking in the background and moderating the list.
 
Mark Powers
From: cnolan@mee.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PW for Mac: Printing woes.
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:51:24 GMT
Organization: Microelectronics Dept, Trinity College Dublin

Printing problems again ... trying to print 'extended' characters.

We had this problem a few months ago and got it fixed (with advice from this
group) by setting the datastyle etc. for the printer to be eight bit.

Problem is it has returned to plague us and I can't get rid of it.

The only difference between a printer that won't work correctly and one that
will, using exact same setups, is the return value from the APPLEDICT71_QUERY.
The 'good' printer returns 0, the other 1.  Here follows the QUERY ...

%!PS-Adobe-2.0 Query
%%Title: Query for Laser Prep, the Apple PostScript Dictionary
%%?BeginProcSetQuery: "(AppleDict md)" 71 0
/md where
{ /md get /av get cvi 71 eq {(1)} {(2)} ifelse } {(0)}ifelse = flush
%%?EndProcSetQuery: 0
%%EOF

What does this actually do?  I'm postscript illiterate!

Has anyone any ideas?
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: gaynor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: Re: SMTP Mailer for ALL-IN-1 Mail and UCX
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:12:09 GMT

In article <LANWORKS%92040308101929@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU> John George <john@NATC-FW.NAVY.MIL> writes:
>We're running PW 4.1 and ALL-IN-1 Mail supporting Windows and Macintosh
>platforms.  Does anyone know of an SMTP mailer which will work with ALL-IN-1
>mail that rides on top of UCX?

Wollongong and TGV both make TCP/IP products that include SMTP
mailers.  The packages also include Message Router agents to transfer
SMTP mail to All-In-1, and the other way.  So, from All-In-1 you could
send mail to:

	fred@bigvax.stateu.edu@SMTP

And someone could send SMTP mail an All-In-1 user as such:

	frank@a1.bigvax.stateu.edu

Of course, these are commercial packages.  MX, which is a great free
package that provides SMTP mail, doesn't work too well with All-In-1.
Before other folks jump on me, let me say that, yes, you can kludge it
to work with sending mail to/from All-In-1 (I was one of the folks who
publicized those kludges) but it's not really workable in the long run
with frequent use.

-- 
Jim Gaynor - System Analyst       Internet: gaynor@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu
Ohio State University - ACS/FMS   Phone: Voice 614/292-4338 - FAX 614/292-7443
ObDiscl:  Everything stated here and above is _my_ opinion.  Mine mine mine!
ObQuote: "Until you stalk and overrun, you can't devour anyone."  - Hobbes
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: disk cache change
From: N Werner Mortensen <WERNER@MFC.PANUM.KU.DK>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:25:00 +0200
X-VMS-Cc: WERNER

Hello fellow PathWorkers,
 
I have a minor problem with PathWorks for VMS V4.1:
 
In the "Server Administrators Guide" on page 7-8 it is stated that restarting
the disk server stops the server first.
In the same manual on page 8-14 it is stated that in order to make a new cache
value from ESS$LAD_STARTUP.DAT effective you must stop the disk server and then
restart it.
 
This doesn't seem to work on my VAX as I don't get a new cache value until
after a reboot.  This is farely inconvenient!
 
Have I missed something or is the book wrong on this one ?
 
Regards,
*************************************************************************
*  N. Werner Mortensen		Phone:    +45 3135 7900  ext 2530	*
*  Network Manager		Fax:      +45 3135 7657			*
*  The Faculty of Medicine						*
*  University of Copenhagen	DECnet:   52482::werner			*
*  Blegdamsvej 3		InterNet: werner@mfc.panum.ku.dk	*
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Windows Printing
From: CHANT <CHANT@UMDENP.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:41:07 EDT

A Windows printing problem .. I'd appreciate any help or advice ......
 
I'm running Pathworks 4.1, (Decnet transport), VMS 5.5, DOS 5.0, Windows 3.0
and am printing to a generic queue on a VAX 4000 server.  The printer is a
HP laserjet II which actually resides on a satellite 3100 workstation.
 
Under MS Windows, if I print from the File Manager the FIRST file is printed
successfully.  However, subsequent files fail with the message "Print Manager
cannot write to LPT1".  If I exit and restart Windows, I can again print one
file.  If I disable the print manager, and restart Windows, I again can print
one file.
 
In the PCFS_SERVER.LOG file on the VAX, I notice that during or shortly after
the successful printing of the first file from inside Windows the message
appears
        Invalid Path : $1$DUA4:[PCFS_SERVER.][DEFAULT]LPT1.
 
(The logical PCFS$SPOOL is defined as $1$DUA4:[PCFS_SERVER.] )
 
If I print at the DOS C:\> prompt to LPT1, I have no problems and can print one
file or several files. As they print, I can see them appear and disappear from
the server's PCFS$SPOOL:[DEFAULT] directory. Printing at the DOS prompt also
works from inside Windows and VMS printing works.
 
                        Thanks,
                                        Nick Chant
 
________________________________________________________________________________
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Dept. of Physics        |       chant@enp.umd.edu               internet
University of Maryland  |       umhep0::51201::chant            hepnet
College Park, MD 20742  |       umaip::51201::chant             span
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: printing problems MAC
From: M.C.PIETERS@SC.AGRO.NL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:42:00 MET

Hi there,
 
we have problems printing to a Printserver20 from MACwrite, A3 format
According to the errormessage there is a problem with the laserprep.
Pagemaker prints with no problems.
Pathworks for MAC v 1.0
MACs system 7 and 6.xx
 
Anyone who could give us a suggestion please mail directly to:
 
               pieters@sc.agro.nl
 
we will summarize to the list
 
thanks
               Michiel Pieters
               systemmanagement
               the Winand Staring Centre
               Wageningen, the Netherlands
From: dorenbos@research.ptt.nl (Marcel Dorenbos, C3, tfn 070-435127)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Some questions and discussion regarding PATHWORKS
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:33:48 GMT

Hi NETworkers,

I have read this group for a while and so far I noticed hardly any discussion
about tools and solutions for use on `PATHWORKS PC's'.

To start this discussion I will give you some open questions.

1. PATHWORKS will integrate a PC in a `network'. These PC's must somehow be
   managed, especially when several hundreds of PC's are involved. Important
   issues here are: how can you migrate to a new PATHWORKS version. Following
   the Digital way, each PC must be manually updated, but have you found other
   ways. How do you start PATHWORKS: the Digital way (using NETSETUP) or have
   you found other solutions. How do you manage network connections or don't 
   you. Digital solved this with AUTOUSER.BAT on drive M:, but what happens if
   one server is replaced by another (and the name changes).
   Have you made a mechanism to give users messages like `A new version of 
   bla blah will be installed on April xx, 1992'.

2. Do you know any rules for caching sizes for the server processes on VAX/VMS?

3. Do you have tools or extensions which can be useful for us?

Well, this seems enough for today.


Thank you very much,


Marcel Dorenbos - PTT Research - the Netherlands
M.C.M.Dorenbos@research.ptt.nl
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Building DECNET.LIB for DOS ??
From: dmmatt@bigez (Mike Mattix)
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:46:04 GMT
Organization: Monsanto Agricultural Company
Nntp-Posting-User: omeara

In article <1992Apr12.153154.1@inetx2>, etxjesm@inetx2 writes:
> Hi. I have tryed to build the DECNET.LIB who's sources are on
> the Pathworks DOS-client systemdisc (/DECNET/SOURCE/*.SRC)
> I have had no success...
> Is there anywone ho have don'it ??
> I am getting lots of warnings and errors from my C-compiler.
> There seems to be missing one (or more?) .H-files !?!?.
> 
>  -- 
>                    Jan-Erik S|derholm
>                    Ericsson Telecom AB
>                    Norrk|pings fabriken
>                    Box 72
>                    601 02 Norrk|ping
>                    Sweden

Yes it is something of a problem but it can be done.  If you seem to be missing
some of the .H files, copy them to \includes directory under MSC 6.0 it is the
\C600\INCLUDE directory.  I found a number of errors in the way the .h files
were specified in the Decnet source (some pointed to the includes directory
and some to the current directory).  I started to change them all and finally
took the easy route and copied the .h files so that they existed both in the
includes directory and the current directory.

If you would like I could send you a copy of the .mak file I used.  Let me know.

Mike Mattix
Monsanto Ag Company
Luling, LA
dmmatt@bigez.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: PW for Mac: Printing woes.
From: Jim Feldhouse <JFELDHOUSE@MIAVX3.MID.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:15:00 EST

I can't provide any help for your problem, sorry.
But I am interested if you find a solution.
 
I have many problems trying to get Macs to print
thru Pathworks (and in my case Scriptserver).
 
Thanks
Jim
From: johnchad@triton.unm.edu (jchadwic)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PRTSC.EXE problems
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:22:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx._9wj6jl
Distribution: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Printing problems are arising again. I have recently inherited a MicroVax 2000
with VMS 5.3 and Pathworks for DOS and MAC. I finally got the print que for
the Macs to work and got the print service for the DOS machines pointing to the
proper queue. I found out when dealing with tech support for DEC that with some
non-network software no EOF file is sent with the file to the print queue. This
is true of WordPerfect according to tech support. The folks told me to load
up the prtsc.exe file, which I have done and the one of the DOS machines
is printing with no problem now.

The problem seems to be with the other machines using pathworks. Doing the same
thing, loading the prtsc command into memory and using the
control/alt/printscreen does not work. Currently the other DOS machines are
printing the flag. Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks. Please email me.

--john chadwick
chadwick@unmb (bitnet) chadwick@bootes.unm.edu (internet)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: PCFS_SERVER wedged
From: RONAU%CUTTER%OPUS@MCOIARC.BITNET
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:22:00 EST

Nigel,
 
          We are having similiar problems.  About 4 weeks ago, log file
error no more heap space (malloc failed).  Dec has us increase
pcfs$maximum_working_set and PCFS$page_file.
 
          2 weeks ago, same error.  Dec had us increase page file again.
 
          Today there was no error but the file server took another
exit.  We have about 125 concurrent users logged in to a Vax 4000-200.
We are using VMS 5.4-2 and Pathworks 4.0 server with 3.0 clients.
 
          Dec's response was that we have "memory leaks".  (Does sombody
care to define this)  There was some code changed to take care of some
memory leaks in the file server.  There was a 4.0 fix and then these
fixes where put into 4.1.  Is my memory leak covered?  Dec didn't know,
so I suggest that there are some memory leaks not fixed.  I the mean
time I can restart the file server every week (whether it needs it or
not) to free up the virtual memory.  Any response about these nefairious
memory leaks?
 
 
 
 
 Theodore F. Ronau             ------------------------------------------
 Small Systems Specialist      | First try Esc, then Ctrl/Break, Ctrl/C |
 Information Systems           | or Ctrl/Z, Ctrl/Alt/Del, the On/Off    |
 Medical College of Ohio       | Switch, and if all else fails, PRAY!!  |
 (419)-381-3601                ------------------------------------------
 Bitnet: Ronau@mcoiarc
                                                       ^
I forgot to add "restart" when it comes to Pathworks!  |
                                                       |
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Memory Management Products(PC) for Pathworks
From: jubber_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:28:00 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ

Hi

We are looking at memory management products for the PC that will enable use
to load some of the PCSA network programs/drivers out of conventional memory
at the moment we are using pathworks 4.0 but we have the upgrade to 4.1.
At this stage most of the memory management is done using dos 5's loadhigh
and devicehigh commands.

What I am looking for is somthing that will achieve a better saving than
this will.

I have heard that Netroom is a very good product to do this.

Any help,advice or experiences with any memory management product under
pcsa would be greatly appreciated .

Thanks

Steve Jubber

jubber_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: local printer queue
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:58:26 BST
Via:           UK.AC.KCL.PH.IPG;  8 APR 92 17:57:04 BST
Originally-to: EARN"lanworks@bitnet.miamiu"
Originally-from: PHCLUS::SYSMGR       "Nigel"
Mailer:        Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

> Problems with shared local printers as LAT-Services:
...
> However, after powering down the local PC or the printer the VMS-printer-
> queue stops and will not restart once the PC is back on the net.
...
> We have - as a temporary solution - put a
>      "NFT SUBMIT "system password" node::[sysmgr]restart_queue.com"
> command in the local AUTOUSER.BAT network-startup-command which is
> undesirable because it requires operator privilege and a system password.
 
Well, you can reduce the security loophole by attaching an ACL to the queue
at the VAX end, so any specified unprivileged user can restart the queue.
This is of course a work-around, not a cure.
 
$ SET ACL /ACL=(ID=xxx, ACC=R+W+E+D ) /OBJECT=QUEUE queuename
 
If I remember right, the RWED flags represent R: can look at queue, W: can
submit to queue, E: can perform operator functions on the queue and D: can
delete the queue (not sure: may be delete jobs from the queue).
 
xxx would be either the user-id whose user-id/password are stored on the
PC, or an identifier granted to that user and other persons who should be
allowed to do things to that particular queue. It's best if the user-id stored
on the PC is dedicated to this one purpose and as restricted as possible (no
interactive access, for example) so that it is of as little use as possible
to a hacker.
 
		Nigel Arnot
 
		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
		NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)
		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu
		etc...
From: apple@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Kathleen Applegate)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: DECALIAS.DAT and Security
Summary: DECALIAS.DAT and Security Issues
Keywords: security
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:20:18 GMT
Organization: NASA/MSFC

When using the PC command:
    NCP DEFINE NODE n.nnn NAME abc USER smith PASSWORD xxx MS-NET

to automate connections to a PathWorks server, how vulnerable is
your password to being discovered by someone poking about in
your C:\DECNET subdirectory with a utility like Norton's?
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Infoserver question
From: Craig Farrell <CF0@PSUALT.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:12:00 EST
Original_To:  PCSA

I have set up a PC for access to an Infoserver to look at memory
requirements.  Looks like the LADCDDRV driver takes 4K of memory.
The MSCDEX program appears to take around 48K.  The MSCDEX program
included with PW 4.1 doesn't like DOS 5 unless you put it in
the SETVER table.  Is there a newer version than this one and
can it be removed from memory if its not needed?  48K is alot
to give up if you are not going to be using CD's all the time.
I could set up different startnet files to use or not use
MSCDEX.  Any tips, ideas suggestions from current users.  We have
not ordered an infoserver as yet.
 
       Craig Farrell                       Penn State Altoona Campus
       CF0@PSUALT.bitnet                   225 CLRC Building
       (814) 949-5295                      Altoona PA,  16601
From: backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::backstrom)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Modem as service ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:00:18 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

>                  RICARDOPINTO@FIOCRUZ.BITNET (Ricardo Pinto)
>                              Modem as Service ?
>
>        Is it possible to offer a modem connected to a PC in the
>LAN as a service ? With printers the LAT protocol works fine but
>I can't imagine how to do that with a modem.
>    You can offer a modem over LAT off a terminal server.
    
    Any applications on the PC that support the PATHWORKS for DOS 
    interface to LAT can use the modems (Kermit V3.x, Reflection
    etc.).
    
    For those applications that support the Int 14h interface, by
    using the Digital written LATCOM utility they can also access
    LAT services (when they think they're talking to the COM port
    through this BIOS interface).
    
    LATCOM is not included in the PW4DOS kit. It is what we call
    an unsupported utility that is available through Digital's 
    CompuServe forum DECPCI (which - the forum - you can also use 
    for questions about the component). Your local Digital customer 
    support center might also be able to get a copy to you.
    
    LAT in the PC does only support the offering of parallel ports
    as a network service. I.e. it has no capabilities (at least not
    now) to offer serial ports.
 
    Another possibility are so called modem pooling applications that
    can do this over the NetBIOS API, which is available with PW4DOS. 
    Additional applications (terminal emulators, file transfer, fax,
    whatever) probably access the modem pool over a proprietary interface 
    or e.g. Int 14h. I've no personal experience with any applications 
    like this, however (we've got plenty of terminal servers ;-), so 
    there's not much more I can say.

    Also, LAN Man V2 with OS/2 servers and clients can offer and share
    serial ports, but Microsoft has not built any capabilities to the DOS
    side of LAN Man (and/or DOS itself) to access redirected serial ports 
    on OS/2 servers. I.e. even if you had a PATHWORKS for OS/2 server
    offering its COM ports, no PW4DOS (or any other DOS LAN Man) clients 
    would be able to make anything out of it.
           
    ...petri (backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com)
       Personal Computing Systems Group
       Digital Equipment Corporation
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: unix fileserver by Andrew Tridgell: DECnet ?
From: Patrick Eitner <EITNER@DBNISKP5.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:32:14 LCL
X-ANJE-To: ANJE%"lanworks@miamiu"
X-ANJE-Cc: EITNER

Hello,
 recently Andrew Tridgelll posted a message announcing a pd unix fileserver
for Pathworks clients. He states that both tcp/ip and DECnet clients should
work. I tried so and it did not work for me.
We have Pathworks for DOS 4.0 clients, talking DECnet only, and ULTRIX 4.2a
with DECnet for ULTRIX installed, so the two can communicate (for example via
nft).
 Has anyone out there been able to get Andrew's fileserver running with DECnet
clients ?
 
Patrick Eitner
*Bonn University*
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Remove name from list
From: "Denise A. Saunders, WVU Physical Plant" <DENISE@WVUPPL.WVNET.EDU>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:53:21 -0400
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
MIME-version: 1.0

Please remove DENISE@WVUPPL.WVNET.EDU from this list.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PC Backup to File Server
From: "Steven L. Bareman" <BAREMAN@HOPE.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:49:00 EST

In the Client Installation and Configuration Guide for the VMS Server
 
it tells how to back up your PC Hard disk to the fileserver.
 
I thought I'd try to see if I could use this to back up a Netware File Server
on the Pathworks Server.  I used the DOS   BACKUP command and it
happily created a 193 megabyte BACKUP.001 and a CONTROL.001 file on the
server,  However,  when i try to RESTORE it always tells me
 
Warning!  No files were found to restore  (or something like that)
 
Any clues????
 
-Steve Bareman
 
Thanks for all the help on the Decnet Area routing questions!
From: wasser@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::wasser)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: DECALIAS.DAT and Security
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:00:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

> When using "NCP DEFINE NODE n.nnn USER smith PASSWORD xxx"
> how vulnerable is your password to being discovered by someone
> with a utility like Norton's?

	NCP stores the passwords (minimaly) encrypted. They will	
	not look like text.

	Someone who wanted your password could use the DECnet-DOS
	library calls to get that username and password but it
	would require a little programming.  Without the DECnet-DOS
	library it is a little harder but not much.

	PC DECwindows stores passwords with a much more complex
	scheme that would be hard to break.