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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:38:47 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Usenet News via Satellite

>my guess is that there are times when the cost of satellite broadcast of
>news looks like a better deal than transmission by modems, and even times
>when the costs of sending xx megabytes per day really is less via
>satellite than it is by land line.

>the question is whether when news transmissions  grow by their next factor
>of two and as alternative strucutres for shipping news across town and
>across the country start getting looked at hard - metro centrexes,
>wireless lans, isdn (ha!), whatever else comes along - whether the
>satellite stuff still looks like the best deal.  and if it is a good
>enough deal whehter it can be brought to a good enough critical mass of
>business before some rival technology eats it up.


It is all a matter of cost, which is why I am working to do it for free.  My
own system is constantly looking at rising costs, and we have kept our
membership rates the same for 8 years now.  We live (as you know, Ed) in a
very economically depressed area.  Our system functions entirely on donations
of hardware, software and membership to cover the phone costs.  We provide a
public service, and have done all sorts of things to keep costs down while
providing more and more service.  ISDN and the rest won't help us, any more
than cellular phone.  Costs are too high.

Transponder time CAN be expensive, or (in our case) it can be   F R E E
You just have to know whose ear to bend.  We don't rely just on good will,
we are a 501 (c) 3, and we can give whoever provides us with the subcarrier
space a tax writeoff.  Can this work and be long lasting?  Take a listen to
YESTERDAY USA.  He is on SEVERAL subcarriers.  They are ALL donated
 a good enough critical mass of
>business before some rival technology eats it up.


It is all a mat It is all in how you structure the system.  People
keep telling me that Stargate failed.  How were they organized?  That would
be my first question.  Who did they get their time/space from would be
another questions.  ANY agreement I enter into will be for a long term haul.

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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:02:01 -0600
From:         Vince DeMarco <vince@WHATNXT.CUC.AB.CA>
Subject:      Subscribe to list

How do i Subscribe to this list??

vince
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:54:09 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: FREE Usenet via satellite to continue

>In article <OUFle-IC/@lopez.marquette.MI.US> flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary
>Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:


>   In any case, all you need to receive the transmissions is a simple cable to
>   run the audio from your satellite system (preferably the earphone jack of
>   your stereo) to your computer modem.  You probably have the making of this
>   cable laying around.  If you have not yet tried receiving the data, either


>I'm a tad bit confused about how one goes about interfacing their modem
>to their satellite receiver.  Could you post detailed instructions?

We explain how to do this EVERY friday night about 5 hours before
transmissions begin.  (You should be listening to FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE ANYWAY
:-) S3/21 6.2 9PM eastern.

Here is what you do to make the cable to interface the sat receiver to the
modem.

It is best you use a stereo amplifier (most of us listen to our receivers
that way, so you should already have one hooked up)

Make a patch cord that has a plug that is compatible with the earphone jack
(a quarter inch one usually) These are available at radio shack, plug on one
end, raw cable on the other.

Either buy the radio shack modular phone cable with the spade lugs, or take a
modular phone cord and CUT it exposing all the colored wires.

Connect the center conductor of the audio cable (from stereo amplifier) to
the RED phone wire of the modular cable.  Connect the braid (outer conductor)
to the GREEN modular wire.

COnnect the modular plug into your modem.


Wait for the beginning of the SDTS transmission.  When you hear the connect
tone (a high pitched squeal) with your telecommunications (modem) program
loaded on your computer, type

ATX1
ATDT1

you should immediately connect.  Wait for the signal to start modulating
(warbling) and you will see this:

TEST - TEST - TEST - TEST - TEST - TEST -  TEST -  TEST -  TEST -  TEST -

Sent for about 30 lines, followed by the beginning of the evenings data
service.

You may have to adjust the volume and tone controls of your amplifier
to eliminate distortion and bad data reception.

People have reported 100% error free reception for the entire 8 hours of
last week's transmission.  It helps if you have clear noise-free reception of
S3/21 6.2 audio.


Hope you can tune in.  AND if you can join us for the 3 hour talk show from
9PM to midnight, we discuss the service a lot during that (plus talk about
all sorts of other nifty satellite related stuff, with LOTS of callers
relating stuff they found on the birds...  a good information show)

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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:46:50 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Satellite Market USA

[long story about nightmare dealing with mailorder firm deleted]

>Can someone recommend a GOOD reputable mail order firm with good prices?

I have had good luck with VHF communications, and plan to buy my DRAKE 1524
from them.  They do have low prices, though they do DROP SHIP a lot of items.
I believe my last order did take 5 days to arrive, but it was shipped ground.
(It was also small)

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:25:37 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: NEXP Wild Feed FOUND!

>4 am in which time zone?

Eastern.

once again NEXP 4AM EASTERN T1/13


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
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Subject: Re: Shaun Kenny
Date: 2 Oct 92 04:17:45 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <9210012014.AA15889@yoda.zycad.com> "(Vijay Vaidyanathan)" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM> writes:
>
>I wonder if they will be playing the tape that he probably made
>yesterday (they normally tape the Thursday show on Wed). I dont
>know.

They played the first part of the tape (took about 30 mins).  He
basically talked about the cable bill.  After that, they put
up a slate announcing he passed away, send a donation to your
favorite charity in his name if you want to, the business office
will be closed until Tuesday Oct 6, and they will have a show
Tuesday Oct 6 on G6/10.

BTW, I too will miss him.  High entertainment value -- watching
him sell "junk" but I saw stuff I've never seen before (especially
the BMAC descrambler).        

Robert

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From: std2209@inel.gov (Adam Gott)
Subject: Re: Where was Monday Nite Football or is ABC Screwing Around
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 03:23:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.140134.4480@europa.asd.contel.com>, hstarke@europa.asd.contel.com (Hal Starke) writes:
|> I tried to find the Dallas Eagles game last night, but gave up because I 

THE GAME WAS ON G1.








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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:56:13 CST
From:         ST9530@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject:      KU Birds & pulse counts

Hello..

We are located in Southern Illinois, and are interested in finally getting
around to tuning our dish for KU satellites.  FIrstly, how many are availble
to us in our location?  We have a 8 1/2 foot solid aluminum Birdview dish,
with compatible receiver for C/KU (GI 2770R), with 25deg CALAMP and .7DB
Gardiner KU LNB, on a corotor II+.  We receive C band from F1 to S2 just
fine, so I am aassuming that KU band birds are in the same arc?  Our GI
receiver seems to have the names of about 4 or 5 KU units already programmed
in, but not located in the sky.  Is our dish EVEN KU compatible?It uses
a horizon mount and can move from true west to true east (at least the dealer
told us that when we bought it in FALL 1985).

Also, when we installed a conversion kit for the movement sensor (lack of a
better term escapes me now), we installed a magnet wheel with a sensor
that detects the magnets moving beneath it.  When the dish is on F1, and I
move it to S2, the numbers get lower i.e.: F1=5405 on the position, and
S2=4998 on position.  I am wondering if the pulse and gnd should not be
reversed, as it seems that it would make more sense(have to reprogam the
satellite arc for C-band anyway since I tightned up the mount on the dish
over the weekend and installed a lower degree LNB (Satellite Market USA
finally got around to sending me the 25 deg CALAMP I paid for, instead of
the 30deg they sent(another sad dealer story already told here).

Any advice wouldbe greatly appreciated.  (BTW: I read the FAQ, very
informative, but I don't think this exact question was addressed..)
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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: where is sci-fi channel?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:41:53 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <37178@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:

>yes...I'm a mooron, i forgot to remember whare the Sci-fi channel is. 
>would some forgiving soul please re-post?

G5, X4.

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:24:57 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Intelsat K in North America

>VM1.NoDak.EDU!HOMESAT writes:
>> On Sunday 10/4 evening 6PM EST I came across DW on the USIA S2/3. Just like
>> the USA network and the Sci Fi channel, Deutsche Welle puts on an annoying
>> little logo in the upper lefthand corner of the screen. It's a worldwide
>> problem and something's got to be done about it :).
>>
>I wonder what you could do about it. 99% of all TV has it in Europe.
>Reason is not only easy identification, als copyright protection.
>(There ARE, believe it or not, people who STEAL TV programs and rebroadcast
>them...). At least if you've got to deal with programs from the old
>continent, you better get used to it.
>Wolfgang


I think what is funny is to see those little logos all stacked on top of one
another when people DO yank stuff on NEWS programs.  I have seen at least
three deep.  Since many of them are semi transparent it is funny.

Now me, I would have my logo in a square solid block that would just blot out
all the others.  With EVERYONE doing THAT it would be so rediculous and easy
to continue stealing that eventually they might quit.

Reminds me of the WLS/WCFL radio wars of the 60's where the two top Chicago
radio stations would get an EXCLUSIVE record and would stick an ID right in
the middle of the song.

I always managed to edit in a duplicate verse from the song, and remove the
ID.  Worked like a champ.

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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:49:44 -0400
From:         "(Ron Gomes)" <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM>
Subject:      Shaun Kenny

Shaun Kenny, the man behind Greensheet/Boresight, who is legendary in
the TVRO business, died this morning (Oct. 1st) in an accidental fall
from a roof.

			Ron Gomes
			rrg@prologic.com
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From: antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns)
Subject: World News Now
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:19:37 GMT


Does anyone know whether ABC's overnight news service 'World News Now'
is on the satellite in the clear anywhere? It's fast becoming the hippest
show on latenight...even better than the old NBC News Overnight with
Linda Ellerbee. I think it starts at 2 am eastern, even though the
Atlanta affiliate doesn't pick it up until after 3:30 am.
 
--jcburns
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From: rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Berger)
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Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:51:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct1.174516.26718@mr.med.ge.com>  
larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:
>  Too bad someone couldn't design a paper model
> with this arc on it so prospective owners could get a feel for where
> the arc is.

Radio Shack dishes come with such a model.
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
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Subject: New listing available
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 02:31:05 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

Hello, all!

Those of you folks who have grabbed stuff from my system in the
past might want to grab a copy of the latest file listings
because I put up a couple new files.  Also, I have the new LTRN
schedule.  If you want any of this stuff, here's what you do:

(prototype address)

X@ijpc.UUCP       - or -
ijpc!X@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US

Replace "X" with any of the following:

ltrn
Gets the latest Let's Talk Radio Network schedule.

satfiles
Gets the list of all available satellite- and TVRO-oriented
files.  Instructions for requesting files from the mailserver and
any news regarding the mailserver and its contents are enclosed.

ianj
Me.  If you want/need to correspond with me if you wish any
information you feel is of value to be placed in my collection or
if you just want to correspond.  Remember, this is YOUR file
system.

If you have any suggestions of what else I can put on here,
please let me know!  To reach me, leave me mail at the address
above.
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:12:47 MEZ
From:         "(Wolfgang R. Schulz)" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      EUTELSAT II F4

I was without access to the net for a week, so maybe I overlooked
that this has been mentioned before. But coming back home and
switching my satellite gear on I noticed that there is now the
expected change on 7 degrees east: EUTELSAT I F4 is silent at that
position and the new, more powerful EUTELSAT II F4 is in operation.

Greek Television ET1 in SECAM is perfect now on 11.174 H, so is
PIK Television from Nikosia, Cyprus on 11.141 H.

The turkish program "Kanal 6", of which many suspected for a long
time that it might rather become a "Kanal sex", moved from Intelsat
at 27.5 West to this 7 east satellite and can be seen on 11.158 V.

RTV Belgrade is now even stronger on 11.595 H, with extra radio
subcarriers on 7.02 with Radio Belgrade in serbic and on 7.56 in
english.

Wolfgang

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From: edg@ecs.comm.mot.com (Ed Gonzalez)
Subject: Video Cipher Dfor sale/ IRD for sale
Organization: trunking_terms
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:57:04 GMT
Keywords: Descrambler Video Cipher IRD sale

FOR SALE:

ECHO STAR IRD - built in actuator, digital sound, KU compatible, parental lock
out, remote control and documentation $300

Video Cipher 2 module, original unmodified with seals, great for parts or
 experimentation.$250...........


Video Cipher Stand alone box. I think it Needs some repair, clear channels
go thru ok, but scrambled does not (maybe I got the black screen cause I
did not have programming on the module) $100.


These are asking prices, but any offers are welcome. Lets talk $$.

RULES:
We can split the shipping. 
maybe we can work some cod if possible,otherwise, I would like to get the
money in advance..
I WILL definitely send the merchandise.
I know that the module and IRD work fine, and as I said, Im not too sure
on the VC standalone box.
Write and let me know if interested.

edg@comm.mot.com
After 8pm (Chicago Time) call (312)733-0951 let it ring, ask for Eddy.
Please dont call during the day.
From: doconnor@sedona.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: $$$$ for taping Simpsons
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:43:10 GMT
Organization: Intel i960(tm) Architecture


g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
] 1) I will offer $$$$ to anyone willing to tape future Simpsons episodes
]    for me, 

Do we really need to keep telling people that this is a crime in the 
US and most other countries? Worse, conspiring to do it will get you
a felony conspiracy conviction in the US.

Don't do it folks. A felony conviction will ruin your life. And
USENET _is_ known to be read by government employees.




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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:52:57 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: to: flash@lopez (re: the Scrounger's Guide)

>Hi there. I tried emailing you, but the mail bouced. Anyway, this might be
>of general interest, so I figured I'd post. In the FAQ article (pretty
>good, thaks!), you mention an artilce that you wrote, entitled the
>Scrouger's Guide. Could I please get a copy? Thanks.

If you don't get it then mail is bad in both directions.  You should not have
trouble though now that we have a domain address here.

In any case I am mailing it the same instant this hits the queue.  If you
don't have it, we can make other arrangements.

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From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: wildfeed schedule
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:53:46 GMT
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:50:45 GMT
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A1-12    3:15 pm CT "Top Cops"

staying home and watching wild feeds sure beats being at work!
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:20:30 -0500
From:         Russ Crisp <CRISP@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cable TV Bill

Hey!  Whats the latest on this bill?  I heard (the late) shawn kenny
say that the Pres. was gonna veto, but it looked like there would
be enough support in the house and senate to overide..  anyone
got any late info?  please post?

thanks
russ crisp
wcu
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From: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 
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Subject: SATELLITE MARKET USA
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 

VV>Message-ID: <9209231847.AA11375@yoda.zycad.com>
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VV>Date:         Wed, 23 Sep 1992 11:47:04 PDT
VV>From:         "(Vijay Vaidyanathan)" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
VV>Subject:      Satellite Market USA

VV>> BEWARE!!!...DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM SATELLITE MARKET USA
VV>> (S3/24)

VV>I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so! I'd posted a
VV>message a while back about these guys, I had the exact same
VV>problem, and here's how I solved it: I called them and told them
VV>that I was beginning legal action ... and that my lawyer would be
VV>sending them a letter within the next two days ...

VV>The package arrived in 5 days!


What an incredible coincidence...that they all of a sudden had the
show on the road at the same time you threatened legal action.

You did the right thing.  They ought to get their act together.

                             
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