From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:17:59 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Nov17.033010.29146@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
> In article <1992Nov16.202637.1867@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
> 
> # In article <1992Nov16.160701.16000@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> 
> # > In article <BxsnnI.A1I@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
> 
> # >>In article <1992Nov14.200904.1705@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> 
> # >>>In article <1992Nov10.015508.24588@news.ysu.edu> ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
> 
> # [text deleted]
>  
> # > To say Jews control international banking is ludicrous.  If it were
> # > true, than Israel wouldn't need loan guarantees, they'd just go to
> # > the Jewish international bankers with their perfect no-default record,
> # > no?
>  
> # Why should Israel go to the bankers direct when generous old Uncle
> # Sam is good for the touch.  Under the Cranston amendment, Uncle
> # has also promised to help the perfect no-default record by advancing
> # money as needed to forestall any delinquency....just roll the
> # notes as need be.
> 
> 	This is a lie whi was first (I believe) presented on USENT by
> Yigal Arens.  The fact is that the Cranston amendment only indicated a
> desire to do something, but id DID NOT AUTHORIZE A SINGLE PENNY of
> expenditures.  Besides, it was included in a resolution that was
> effective for only one year.
> 
> # This sounds like pretty powerful financial
> # clout to me, but don't give Israel all of the credit when probably
> # most of it should go to AIPAC, a lobby that seems to be well out
> # of control and working against the best interests of the American
> # people.
> 
> 	Contrary to popular myth AIPAC is a worthless organization with
> clout at all.  It has never won a contested battle, and the recent
> loan gloan gau fiasco showed just how impotent they really are.

If AIPAC is so powerless, then why did the president of the pro-Israel
lobby resign after being secretly tape recorded while bragging that
AIPAC was negotiating with the Clinton campaign about key appointments
and claiming that he had made a deal with James Baker to get Israel
extra aid?  Harry Katz, AIPAC member, who taped David Steiner's
conversation, sent the tape to the Washington Times which published
the news about last Wednesday.  

Katz is quoted as saying "I don't think the Jewish lobby should have
disproportionate political power" and "I wanted him [Steiner] to admit
to me the incredible infiltration of the Israel lobby into the
campaign."  Steiner is said to have bragged about the many people
"we have" in Clinton's headquarters and how they were all going to
get big jobs.  He even said "we're negotiating" with the Clinton camp
on who might be secretary of state.
 
> 	By the way, what agenda caused you to utter that nonsense about
> "working against the best interests of the American people"?

Possibly the same agenda that motivates Harry Katz.  My allegiance is
to this country and its constitution.  I'm tired of seeing the few
remaining nickels in our near empty coffers siphoned off by foreign
interest groups.  I'm amazed that our Congress will do so much to
assist the immigrants of a foreign nation and  so little to help
the millions of recent immigrants in our own land.

-Joe Gaut

> 
> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
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