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From: Frank.Neumann@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank Neumann)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Minix
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:48:40 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.amiga
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

Hi there, 
ericb@sierra.com (Eric Blood "intern") writes:

>The FAQ for Minix says that will only work on a 68000, not a 68020, or 68030.
>Other things come up like there is no hard drive support out of the box,
>you need to find a driver.  Without internet access, I would think that
>would be difficult.  Also it is $168 US.  With that information, I bought
>the version for my IBM.  I got it up and running, but would have prefered
>the Amiga version for my A3000.  Now, is the FAQ correct or can I run
>Minix with my A3000 and hard drive?

The FAQ is somewhat correct, somewhat incorrect. Problem is that the keeper
of the FAQ, Glen Overby, only lists the features of the out-of-the-box
versions of Minix for PC, Atari, Amiga etc. As far as I know, Prentice-Hall
still sells AmigaMinix version 1.5, which does NOT have HD support, and
which might NOT run on an A3000. THIS is what Glen states in the FAQ.

On the other hand, IF you do have ftp access, you can get the updates to
1.5.10.1 and 1.5.10.2, which give you HD support for the A590, A2091 and
A3000's HD controller (or was it 'host adapter' ? ;-), virtual consoles,
and some more goodies. These updates ARE official as far as Steven Reiz
told me, but...well, not everybody might have access to them, that's why
Glen's FAQ does not mention it.

FYI: The ftp site is ftp.cs.vu.nl [192.31.231.42 and others], directory is
/pub/sreiz/minix. 

Good luck,
Frank
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From: chr@senga.ka.sub.org (Christian Riede)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: High speed modem use under Amiga UNIX
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:50:00 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP site
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In article <1992Jul27.151448.5100@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, Keith Barrett writes:

> 	I recently purchased a 14.4k V.32/V.42bis modem.
> Under AmigaDOS, this is working fine. Under Amiga UNIX I have this
> working correctly for dial-out UUCP connections, but dial-in attempts
> (for interactive shells or uucp) are failing to log in. What happens is
> usually the systems posts the "Login:" prompt, but after entering your user-id
> the password prompt never appears. Other times, it just plain hangs up.

I've had this kind of behaviour when connecting to a Sun at the university via a
terminalserver: The problem was that the Sun needed a LF, but my return key
sent a CR instead. Try to use ^j instead of RETURN.

Gruss, Christian

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From: sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny)
Subject: AmigaMach Port
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:07:43 GMT

I heard some months ago that the CMU was porting Mach to the Amiga.  Now I would like to know if this rumor is true, and, if so, when the release is planned.

I am currently looking for a UNIX package (AmigaUNIX, BSD 4.4) and if Mach happened to be released on the Amiga, then I would wait and go for it.

I also would like to know if they plan to support mutiprocessing in that version (providing a A3000 with some '40 board).  That would be fantastic to have a multiprocessor OS.

If anybody knows anything about the Mach port, please contact me before I go for any other packages.

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From: logan@gimlet.herndon.va.us (Jim Logan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: SoftPC for AmigaUNIX?
Keywords: AmigaUNIX, SoftPC
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:06:16 GMT
Organization: (None)

In article <1992Jul20.142009.4000@kas.helios.mn.org>
rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
# In article <abeech.711545293@kraken> abeech@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au
(Adrian Beech) writes:
# =Anyone know if there exsists a SoftPC version for AmigaUNIX?  I've been told
# =that this is _VERY_ good PC emulator.  The person who told me this also went
# =on to say that he thought there was a SVR4 version.
# =
# 	Call the SoftPC people and ask, if they have a totally software
# 	solution written for SVR4 then it will compile on AmigaUNIX. The
# 	PERFORMANCE is an altogether different issue tho on an '030 Amiga.
# 	If you're out to run wing commander or some other valueable peewee
# 	program you might want to get an 'el cheepo clone and network.

I called them last year, and they told me that IF they had plans
to do a port, they wouldn't tell me about it.  

			-Jim
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From: raider@maloe.toppoint.de (Martin Seeger)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Minix
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:52:10 GMT
Organization: Martin's Fortress, Laboe, FRG

Jon.Smith@afitamy.fidonet.org (Jon Smith) writes:


>    Could someone tell me exactly what Minix for the Amiga is?  I saw it on 

Minix is an operating system based on Unix Version 7. It was written by
Andrew S. Tannenbaum (a computer science professor in Netherland). The
source code was published in his book "Operating Systems" and ported
to IBM-PC (and the 'so called' compatibles), Amiga and Atari. Even if
you don't want to get Minix, buy the book (Or the new release called
"Modern Operating Systems"). You learn a lot about an OS. It's one of
my top five books about computers.

More about Minix you'll find in comp.os.minix.

> a dealer's shelf and neither the outside of the box nor the dealer could 

Dealers!!! I'm sure the only thing he knew was the price :-(

> tell me very much about it?  Is it anywhere near a full Unix operating 
> system?  

It's not all of a Unix, but it's cheap and small. If you want to learn
about Unix buy the book and Minix. Many Unix programs can be easily
ported to Minix. It comes, as i know, with a C compiler.

> I'd really like to run Unix programs on my stock A2000hd (now, 

It runs even on a 500. I heard from a guy who used a floppy disk as
swapspace :-) Don't ask me about the HD-Support. The only HD supported
i'm sure of, is the A590.

> don't laugh, I can dream can't I?)

Why should we laugh. The question whether Amiga Unix 2.x runs on a 500
would be #1 in a FAQ list :-)

Greetings
 
   Martin
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From: wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Markus Wild)
Subject: sysadm menu 
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:37:17 GMT


I was browsing around /usr/sadm/sysadm, and found that in the add-ons
directory, there are lots of help files, not normally available on the
sysadm menu. After reading the sysadm man page, I guess those are pre-R4
or `alien' help files (`alien' is not that probable, BNU's there as
well). Now.. according to the manpage, those help files should be available
under their own menu item on the main menu, however, they are not.

This is under 2.03, is there a certain command that enables those 
additional help files? They look nice, and I'd like at least try them
out until I decide not to use them ;-))

-Markus
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From: seanr@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Sean Reifschneider)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: SCSI-2 drive works with A-3000?
Keywords: SCSI 2 drive works with amiga 3000
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:24:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rocky Mountain High School, Fort Collins, CO

Well, I've got Amiga UNIX on the way, and am looking to upgrade my Maxtor
200MB drive to the new Fujitsu 520MB drive.  It's listed as a SCSI-2 drive
so I was wondering if it would even work with the 3000s controller.  Some
time ago I heard about an upgrade for the 3000 that would make it SCSI-2
compatable.  Would I have to get one of those, and if I do, how much and
where can I get it?

Thanks,
Sean
(hoping his UNIX will be happy with 400MB. ;-)
From: barnettj@pookie.crd.ge.com (Janet A Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: X11R5 under AMIX
Summary: How do you build it?
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:25:24 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

OK, as long as I'm asking FAQs, how about this?

I'd like to run X11R5 under AMIX. Does the distribution tape include
enough of the source to the X11R4 server that the device dependent
parts can be cribbed for X11R5? If so, do you receive the source for
both the native graphics hardware and/or the UofLowell board?

Also in this vein (I feel so naive), does AMIX include a C compiler?
dbx? SYSV include files? etc... Or does one need to obtain such things
as GCC?

Allen Barnett
(whose wife graciously allowed to use her account)
From: janc@amix.commodore.com (Jan Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re:  Unix on A2000
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:29:36 GMT
Organization: Amiga UNIX Software Development

In article <joe.015x@jaguar.UUCP> joe@jaguar.UUCP (Joe Gonzalez) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.052132.13059@amix.commodore.com> janc@amix.commodore.com (Jan Carlson) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul16.072145.174264@rrz.uni-koeln.de> ad010@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Wilhelm Stiefelhagen) writes:
>>
>>>Does anyone have expierence with Unix an an A2000 with a A2630 card?
>>
>>Yes it has been used extensively on A2000's and A3000's.  The minimum
>>fast ram (non graphics) is 4mb, preferably on the 2630 card. 
>
>   Cool! But would it run on my 68030, 8MB /w MMU  MegaMidgetRacer? 

Assuming you have the FPU in there too, probably yes if you have the
Kickstart 2.04 rom and at least 50mb of free space on a scsi hard
drive connected to an A590, A2091, A2090A or A2090.  A QIC-150 scsi
tape drive is needed to install.  This is theoretical, because I have
not heard yet of anyone who actually tried this.

>   
>--
>
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From: bruce@menkar.epm.ornl.gov (Bruce Lowekamp)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Minix
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:21:56 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.amiga
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

The FAQ is incorrect.  I had it running on my A3000 last Fall semester for an
operating system's class.

The way to get updates, etc.  is that you get them through A-DOS, then use a
transfer disk to get them into MINIX.  (Very similar for the procedure used to
change the kernel actually).  The kernel itself resides on the A-DOS side, which
makes it easy to change.  Other than that, there are commands on the A-DOS side
for the transfer and commands on the MINIX side for the transfer.

Bruce Lowekamp
bruce@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Virginia Tech (VPI)
From: rico@cbmvax.commodore.com (Rico Tudor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: 2.1 Installation problems (take 2)
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:15:36 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul25.184244.30506@ans.net>, sangster@news.ans.net (Paul Sangster) writes:
> ...
> a3091: 0x4F 1 0x78EAD98
> ...
> Is it possible that I have a bad copy of the install tape? Anyone have
> any options for me to try?

As mentioned earlier by "Ford", the problem is hardware.  The install tape,
regardless of its state, is incapable of generating a SCSI bus error.
A common cause is faulty ribbon cable or connectors.  Over several attempts
to install, I predict the failure occurs at different places on the tape.

1st attempt to fix:
	Remove the ribbon cable and press on the connectors (which are
	crimped to the cable).

2nd attempt:
	Remove the Amiga's lid.  This changes the cable's orientation in
	the box, and may also prevent the pins of the (male) SCSI connector
	from shorting against the screw tab of the lid.

3rd attempt:
	Swap ribbon cable.
From: 89u7491@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: AmigaUNIX 2.1 on A2000
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:57:59 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

I have an A2000 with the GVP combo (68030 + SCSI controller) with 5 MEG fast
RAM and 1 MEG chip and a 120 MEG HD. Can anyone give me some information on 
setting unix up with this configuration (I realise that I will also need a tape
 drive). As fas as I know the A3000UX has some unix stuff in ROM, how does 
an A2000 unix user get around this? AmigaUnix 2.1 isn't available in Aust. so 
could someone in the US give me an idea on how much the 2.1 distribution will 
cost. Thanks in advance.

Cheers
-Trevor

 "let me be the first to offer you my sincerest contrafibularities"
	E. Blackadder

Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Markus Wild)
Subject: Re: 2.1 Installation problem
Keywords: SCSI hardware fault
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:30:22 GMT

In article <126@yoda.uucp> ford@yoda.uucp (Mike "Ford" Ditto) writes:
>In article <1992Jul18.200823.3362@ans.net>
>sangster@news.ans.net (Paul Sangster) writes:
>>Installing Amiga Unix Essential Components
>>a3091: 0x4F 1 0x78EAD98
>>
>>Does anyone know what the dump means?  I presume its a tape drive read error
>>of some sort.
>
>It's a failure at the SCSI interface controller chip level.  In other
>words, it's not your tape drive saying the tape is unreadable, it's
>your SCSI interface controller saying your SCSI bus is unreadable.
>The software can not and will not attempt to recover.
>
>Basically, it is a hardware problem, although it is often as simple as
>not having proper termination on the SCSI bus.  Make sure the end of
>your bus is terminated, probably by the presense of a terminator
>plugged into the "other" connector on the A3070.

Some similar (perhaps even identical) panic happens, if you send a
rewind command to your tape drive from AmigaDOS, and then start Unix.
If the rewind completes after the Unix kernel takes over control of the
SCSI bus, the device driver gets a command-completed answer to a command
it never initiated, and this sort of confuses it and it displays such
an error msg. Happend to me some days ago ;-))

-Markus
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From: hugh@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Tape drives
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:49:08 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: NTT Systems, Inc., Toronto, Canada

In article <1992Jul21.120852.13882@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> kzyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>	Which one is best?
>	  A3070, which uses DC600 tapes and costs $525 (Safe Harbor).

and DC6150 (officially).  I'm using DC6250s in the drive as well,
despite evil sounding warnings that come with the tapes about possible
increased head wear.

>	  Touchdown 100, uses DC6150/DC6250 tapes and
>               costs $499 (Central Cost Software)

What drive is it? The 3070s used to be mostly Caliper drives.

I have no complaints with the 3070, and you know it works with the
driver s/w.

>	Could also forget tapes and buy a syquest like device.

I got the QIC-150 for data transportability, but I could really use
the miltiGigabyte capacity of a DAT.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: kmg@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (keith.gabryelski)
Subject: Re: X11R5 under AMIX
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:49:45 GMT

barnettj@pookie.crd.ge.com (Janet A Barnett) writes:
> I'd like to run X11R5 under AMIX. Does the distribution tape include
> enough of the source to the X11R4 server that the device dependent
> parts can be cribbed for X11R5? If so, do you receive the source for
> both the native graphics hardware and/or the UofLowell board?

A public domain X11R5 port has been done to Amiga Unix and is on the
standard distribution tape.  The monochrome X11R5 is working fine.
UofLowell/DMI support has been added but isn't generally available.

> Also in this vein (I feel so naive), does AMIX include a C compiler?
> dbx? SYSV include files? etc... Or does one need to obtain such things
> as GCC?

Amiga Unix does come with two C compilers.  CI5 (which is USL's 4.0
C compiler) and GCC.  GCC is the default compiler.

dbx is not included but sb, adb, and gdb are included.

Pax, Keith
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From: lovealld@infonode.ingr.com (David Loveall)
Subject: Re: AmigaUNIX 2.1 on A2000
Reply-To: dave@xanadu.reston.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Federal Systems Division, Reston VA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:50:46 GMT

In <1992Jul23.165759.2711@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> 89u7491@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>I have an A2000 with the GVP combo (68030 + SCSI controller) with 5 MEG fast
>RAM and 1 MEG chip and a 120 MEG HD. Can anyone give me some information on 
>setting unix up with this configuration (I realise that I will also need a tape
> drive). As fas as I know the A3000UX has some unix stuff in ROM, how does 
>an A2000 unix user get around this? AmigaUnix 2.1 isn't available in Aust. so 
>could someone in the US give me an idea on how much the 2.1 distribution will 
>cost. Thanks in advance.

In addition to the 150MB tape drive that you will need to load unix,
you will also need either a unix driver for your GVP SCSI controller, or
one of the three Commodore SCSI adapters in order of preference:

	1) A2091
	2) A2090A
	3) A2090

Its my understanding from the net that the designer of the A2091 now
works for GVP and has designed GVP's newer SCSI cards.  Those new
GVP designs might be close enough to the A2091, but I would bet against
it..

Other considerations: The minimum ram for unix is 4MB.  If you want 
to use OpenLook with X, the documentation also recommends a minimum 
8MB ram.  Unix does not directly use chip ram, so it doesn't count 
in this consideration.  (Chip ram _does_ count in determining how 
many virtual screens you can access, but the 1MB chip ram gives you 
all ten screens available.)  With your 120MB HD, you'll have to pick
and choose packages from among the 292MB of files the complete tape has,
particularly if you want AmigaDos on the drive too.  

I haven't heard of any 3000 unix specific rom code, but even if there 
were, I don't see why the unix kernals couldn't take this into 
account.

Here is the pricing for Amiga Unix 2.1 at a local (to me) 
Washington, DC area dealer:

	2-User:    US $999
	Unlimited: US $1199

If I recall correctly, the upgrade from older (1.X) Amiga Unix was
US $299 and US $499 respectively.

Perhaps the addendum info on system requirements could be put into a 
FAQ, along with general recomendations?  

>Cheers
>-Trevor

> "let me be the first to offer you my sincerest contrafibularities"
>	E. Blackadder

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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: AmigaUNIX and read-write optical disks
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:00:40 GMT

In <BrqoFL.Czu@watserv1.waterloo.edu> gkritsch@babbage.waterloo.edu (Gregory Kritsch) writes:
>Does AmigaUNIX support any read-write optical disks of any sort?  Preferably
>straight out of the box, and for both backup use and as a filesystem.  Does
>anyone have any useful experiences with such disks?

>I'd rather buy an optical than a tape.  I know AmigaUNIX only comes on tape,
>but I'm hoping to be able to borrow a tape drive for the initial install.

Hmm.. the drives work with AmigaOS2.04 and they just show up as regular
harddrives on our workstations. I can think of 2 caveats when using
them under AmigaUNIX.

Since the media is removable one may have to manually clear unit attentition
condition after inserting a disk (f.e. by reading from the raw device).

And since the formatting options are non-standard on some drives
(I know about Sony drives) you may have difficulties to low-level
format the media and to handle bad block replacement. However,
low-level formatting isn't needed on magneto-optical media unless
someone has damaged the sector headers and both operations can
be done under AmigaOS.

Regards,
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From: zik@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Michael Saleeba [Zik])
Subject: 38kbaud serial under AmigaUNIX
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:21:53 GMT

I have an AmigaUNIX machine I want to run SL/IP or PPP to at 38kbaud.
In fact I want to run a couple of these channels as I'll be feeing
other people too.

My question is what options I have for serial boards. The Commodore
board won't do above 19kbaud I'm told, and I know of no UNIX drivers
for any other boards. Any ideas?

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