HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: asnd@msr.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: "Broken" vertical rules
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:15:00 GMT

In article <168777C85.BORMANN@vm.cc.purdue.edu>, BORMANN@vm.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Bormann) writes...
> 
> 
>\line{\box\leftbox\hfil\box\rightbox}
> 
>I desire to put a broken vertical line, between the two.  

Unfortunately, leaders can only stretch vertically in vertical 
mode, while vrules can stretch vertically in horizontal mode.

I would say the best (only?) approach is to measure the leftbox and
rightbox and then use leaders of that size.

D
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu (Darrell McCauley)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: What happened to ``byron.u.washington.edu''?
Followup-To: comp.text.tex
Organization: Ag Engineering Dept, Purdue University 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:47:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.205907.5366@umr.edu>, acar@ee.umr.edu writes:

|> -> Isn't ``byron.u.washington.edu'' carrying the complete TeX source for
|> -> unix anymore?
|> 
|> No, it is not.

|> A PERSONAL NOTE: I think the idea of having the source only from the
|> tapes is disturbing. Don't misunderstand me, I agree to contribute for

I also find this *very* disturbing. Of course, a good scavenger can find
what he/she needs (see other followups), but what's the deal?!? Is there 
a problem with load or disk space on the ftp server?  

Is there anything that can be done? How much disk space is needed
(in case someone wants to help out)?  

Come to think of it, disk space shouldn't have been the problem with
byron (after all, they have to make the tapes).  Anyone in-the-know
care to comment?
-- 
James Darrell McCauley                    Dept of Ag Engineering, Purdue Univ
internet: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu         West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146
bitnet: mccauley%ecn@purccvm              UUCP: pur-ee!mccauley
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: WANTED : sample TeX resume files !
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:07:58 GMT

aux@leo.Stanford.EDU (aux) writes:

> Hi, could someone please forward to me a sample TeX resume file, or 
> refer me to an FTP site where I could find one. Thanks in advance.

You can find resume.sty and res.sty at ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
in /soft/tex/latex-styles-supported/resume .
(I think that's the right directory.)
There are also sample files res.tex and resume.tex in the same place.

Of course you should have checked in Jones' TeX-index.

I wouldn't give either of the styles full marks.
I was looking at both this week for my wife.
(Someone has to earn a living!)
Maybe the requirements round the world are too diverse
to have a single style covering all cases?


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory B. Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: can someone send me some bold math fonts......or lend some help?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu




I yanked the sauter mf files off of one the archives but quite frankly I  
am clueless about what is happening since I don't know mf.  I need to get  
boldface math greek variables in my document.


Here are the ones that NFSS TeX 3.14 says it needs:

Warning: Font/shape `cmm/b/it' in size <7> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `cmmi7' instead on input line 6.
Warning: Font/shape `cmm/b/it' in size <5> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `cmmi5' instead on input line 6.
Warning: Font/shape `cmsy/b/n' in size <7> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `cmsy7' instead on input line 6.
Warning: Font/shape `cmsy/b/n' in size <5> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `cmsy5' instead on input line 6.
Warning: Font/shape `lasy/b/n' in size <7> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `lasy7' instead on input line 6.
Warning: Font/shape `lasy/b/n' in size <5> not available on input line 6.
Warning: Using external font `lasy5' instead on input line 6.

I tried for hours over a couple of days to get the sauter stuff to produce  
what I want but I failed and am feeling rather worn out from the effort.   
I do not have a MF book and do not want to buy one at this time.


So could some kind soul send me (or allow an ftp) some bold math fonts (as  
TeX requests above) or tell me how to use the sauter stuff to generate  
what I need frome the warnings above.  The readme in the sauter package  
assumes that you know something about mf.



--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
------------------------
My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
employer
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz)
Subject: longtable.sty and column width problem
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:31:53 GMT

I'm using longtable.sty to format a long multi-page table that
contains enough footnotes to occupy a full page.  It appears to
work perfectly except for the fact that it inflates the last column
to around 15 inches wide.  The table fits fine in the tabular
environment (rather than the longtable environment).

I've tried various tricks as listed in the documentation (e.g. \kill)
to solve the problem, to no avail.

Anybody have experience with this bug, or with another .sty file that
deals nicely with footnotes in a multi-page table?

Thanks,
Stewart Schultz   schultz@unixg.ubc.ca
From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory B. Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: how to determine the smallest box to enclose a displayed formula?
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: rglnext.geol.vt.edu



I would like to create a box whose width is that sufficient to snuggly  
enclose a display formula.  A snug box is created in horizontal mode when  
you just use $blah$, but it is important for me to determine the smallest  
enclosing box in display math mode.

I am attempting to find the smallest box for a display equation so I can  
rotate it and stick it on a page by itself using a float.  However, 


\newbox\myeqnbox
\global\setbox\myeqnbox=\hbox
\bgroup\ignorespaces\vbox\bgroup
\begin{displaymath} % latex stuff, but behavoir same with $$
x^2+y^2=9
\end{displaymath}
\hrule
\egroup
\egroup


\Rotateleft  % pstricks stuff
\box\myeqnbox
\endRotateleft


This creates a rotated box correctly but the rotated part is pushed far  
down the page because the displayed equation box has a wdith that of the  
page (I measured it with TeXview).  Also, the rule clearly shows that I  
need a smaller box and it shows me just how wide the box is on the paper.   
Unfortunately, doing a \vbox to 100pt will make a small box but the rule  
(which is still the width of the paper) will continue as before  
overwriting whatever text is above it (remember it is rotated).

So what I need to do is get that snug box around the formula so that I can  
then properly move the rotated text around on the page without that extra  
blank space to the right of the formula.

The overall reason I am trying to do this is to create a new float  
environment which can display very wide formulas in landscape mode.  But  
even in landscape mode the formulas are too big so I am using pstricks to  
scale the formulas down so that it just fits into \textheight.  To make it  
just fit into \textheight I need the minimum width of the equation box so  
I can set the scale factor to   \textheight / <snug width of eqn box>.  I  
want the left edge of the equations to be at the bottom of the page (which  
it would if it was scaled to just fit into \textheight).  Now since the  
formula is too wide, the box that is created has a width of a portrait  
line of text which is not the info I need to do the scaling correctly.

--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
------------------------
My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
employer
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,de.comp.tex
From: lisken@lili11.uni-bielefeld.de (Sebastian Lisken)
Subject: Re: Summary: text on shaded background?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 22:20:47 GMT
Organization: University of Bielefeld, F.R.G.

    Just to confirm Timothy Van Zandt's corrections to my summary,
    now that I finally got round to test them, and to add another
    suggestion:

In article <1992Sep25.171210.21176@Princeton.EDU> tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
>                                                               It
> is not possible to handle both short phrases and paragraphs with
> the same macro in a *flexible* way (whereas inserting \parbox or
> a variant thereof when desired is easy and flexible).
> 
> Note that \parbox (which is just a \vbox with some parameters set)
> can handle multiple paragraphs.

    Thank you for that information.  I didn't realize it myself
    because inside a \parbox it seems that \parskip and \parindent
    both are set to zero.  As I said before, I don't know very
    much about TeX at the moment, so I have to draw my knowledge
    from experiments.
    [ Which just leaves me worrying what to do, hypothetically, if
      I would need a box around two words that covers the space
      in between, but still works sensibly if there happens to
      occur a linebreak between the words. ]

>                    framesep determines how far the background (and/or
> frame) extends beyond the size of the text. boxsep=true/false determines
> whether this extra border actually affects TeX's spacing.

    Oh dear, it seems I didn't read your manual carefully enough
    here.  I played with boxsep and found it to be working just
    as you describe.  Note that in your example

>      this is a \psframebox*[fillcolor=gray,framesep=1pt,boxsep=false]{test}
> 		 of the boxsep parameter

    I had to change "fillcolor=gray" to "linecolor", contrary to
    what you say in the manual on page 26, to see the gray.  Further,
    increasing the framesep to something like 6pt makes the gray
    around "test" cover up part of the preceding "this is a", but
    of course there is some logic in that.

    Thanks again.


    Now that other solution I received.  It was sent to me by
    Thomas Hack <Thomas_Hack@hh2.maus.de> :

> Helmut Kopka writes in his book '' LaTeX Erweiterungsmoeglichkeiten'', 2nd
> Edtion, on page 130:
> 
> \setshadegrid span <1.5pt> \shaderectangleson \frame <0.5mm> {\bf \lines{%
> Gerahmter\cr Text mit unterlegter\cr Schattierung}}
> 
> This is a special command of the PicTeX Style. But sorry, I never testet it.

    But again, probably due to my lack of experience I can't get it
    working.  I am providing it here for people who would need
    non-PostScript solutions and have the time to investigate it.
    Should be possible with some knowledge of PicTeX.

    Thank you

    Sebastian Lisken
    lisken@lili11.uni-bielefeld.de

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: TeX and Tables
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:14:40 GMT

In article <12951@cis.rand.org>, ajayshah@cis.rand.org writes:

> I use LaTeX mainly and do a lot of tables.
> The tables options I seem to know of are:

1. Get DM Jones' tex-index. Read a few recent posts to find it.
2. Look up eplain (K Berry) for plain, and longtable (D Carlisle) for 
   LaTeX.

t2d4 "Tables to die for" was available from PCTeX. I believe that Spivak
wrote it. The 92 catalog from PCTeX does not have it listed, but it
does have Wichura's TaBlE macro package. 
  PC-TeX
  12 Madrona Avenue
  Mill Valley, CA 94941
  415 388 8853    Fax: 415 388 8865

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: 4232_5377@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: How to print .dvi files on 24 pin printer?
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:08:57 GMT

I am new to Latex.  I just want to know how I could possibly print .dvi
files on my Panasonic KX-P1124i (a 24 pin) printer.  Utilities like converting
the .dvi files to graphics files like PCX, BMP, or converting the .dvi files
to some other word processor formats like MS Word, Ami Pro will suffice.
If it is at all possible, please give me hints on where I can get the source
code (in C), or precompiled MS-DOS executables of such utilities.  I have
tried a utility called dvi24pin, a modified version of dvieps, which
presumbably converts .dvi files to ones printable on 24 pin dot matrix
printers, but I seem to have some font substitution problems since I am doing
my Latex work on a MIPS running BSD 4.3.  I think if I can get the source code
of utilities like that and have it compiled on the MIPS, then I can just
download the converted file to my PC and print it out.

Thanks very much for the help.
From: schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (Rainer Schoepf)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: \skewchar
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 15:34:52 +0200
Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

"Daniel H. Luecking" writes:

 > This would be very helpful in adjusting the second accent IF there were
 > some way of accessing `s'. I don't mean a trial and error method, but
 > an automatic way. AMSTeX has accent commands (which it warns are very slow)
 > that are supposed to give multiple accents (usage \Hat{\Dot A}) but the
 > manual (`Joy of TeX') doesn't explain how it's done.
 >
 > But how is that supposed to help the LaTeX user (unless E uses AMS-LaTeX,
 > which I know too little about to know if it includes these commands)?

It does. You have to add `amstex' to the list of style options to have
\Hat, etc. defined.

   Rainer Schoepf
   Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum                       ,,Ich mag es nicht, wenn
    fuer Informationstechnik Berlin            sich die Dinge so frueh
   Heilbronner Strasse 10                      am Morgen schon so
   W-1000 Berlin 31                            dynamisch entwickeln!''
   Federal Republic of Germany
   <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de> or <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.dbp.de>
From: wolfgang.ratzka@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.de (Wolfgang Ratzka)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Underlining in TeX.
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:32:45 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Francis Hartojo:
>     I just have a quick question for TeXnicians out there, what is the most
>elegant way to do underlining in TeX?  I tried to used the \underbar macro

Quick answer: ... underlining ist not elegant. It's for handwriting
and typewriters.  Why don't you try to print the text in boldface or
in italics?

In fact underlining flowing text in a paragraph should be a pretty
tough task. One relatively clean solution would be to create a font,
that has the underlining in it. (One might try to do this using the
virtual font mechanism...). Still this would not take care of the
spaces, so the single words would be underlined (as many old word
processors do it).

???

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: How to check for scriptstyle, scriptscriptstyle?
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:39:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.170848.9290@Princeton.EDU>, tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
> 
> In a macro, how can one differentiate between textstyle math
> mode and, e.g., scriptstyle math mode?

Look at \mathchoice:
\def\MyMacro{\mathchoice
   {\mbox{displaystyle}}
   {\mbox{textstyle}}
   {\mbox{scriptstyle}}%
   {\mbox{scriptscriptstyle}}}

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: pothovst@uther.calvin.edu (Steve Pothoven)
Subject: Re: Underlining in TeX.
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:41:53 GMT

walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu writes:

>Wolfgang Ratzka writes:
>> Francis Hartojo:
> >     I just have a quick question for TeXnicians out there, what is the most
> >elegant way to do underlining in TeX?  I tried to used the \underbar macro
>>

There is a nice macro for this in pcwsty.tex (the macro package for
PC-Write 2 TeX) called \uline which I've found very useful.

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From: jacobsd@prism.cs.orst.edu (Dana Jacobsen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Translating from refer to bibtex
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:06:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep29.230623.21687
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

In <1992Sep28.161153.28158@infolog.se> ulf@gbg.infolog.se (Ulf Sundin) writes:
>I'm moving from troff/refer to TeX,
>and I need to translate my refer-database to
>bibtex format.

>I guess that somebody already has done this,
>and I would very much appreciate source code and/or
>hints concerning how to solve the problem. 

  Look at the file cerberus.cor.epa.gov(134.67.4.48):/pub/bibtools/README.
This gives a summary of the solutions I've been able to find, as well as
some BibTeX and refer tools.  It also has a summary of my opinions and
timings of the various programs (which is obviously biases, as I wrote
one of them).

  My suggestion is to get r2b (refer2bibtex.pl-0.8.1) from 134.67.4.48 in
the directory pub/bibtools.  All the programs referenced in the README file
are also available there.  One reason I suggest that you use r2b is that
it is the most complete of the ones available, and is also the only one to
generate a correct file on many of my examples.  The others often produce
duplicate cite keys, extra '{'s, don't do troff conversion, or other
problems leading to hand-editing of even simple files.  Most of the files
I've run through r2b do not need any hand-editing, and it should always
generate a correct (bibtex likes it, TeX likes it) file.
  r2b requires you have perl, but perl is free and runs on most machines.
If you have any problems, or need help, send me e-mail.  There are also
quite a few bibliographies available in /pub/bibliographies you can get.
--
Dana Jacobsen                       I that wes in heill and gledness
jacobsd@cs.orst.edu                   am trublit now with gret sikness
jacobsd@solar.cor2.epa.gov              and feblit with infirmetie
Computer Sciences Corporation             Timor mortis conturbat me.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: knappen@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Joerg Knappen)
Subject: Re: How to change "Chapter" into "chapitre" ?
Keywords: International LaTeX
Reply-To: knappen@obelix.kph.Uni-Mainz.DE
Organization: ONO (Organisation der Nicht-Organisierten)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:00:07 GMT

Changing <<chapter>> to <<chapitre>> is easy: Say 
\renewcommand{\chaptername}{chapitre}.

The others procede the same way. You should not need to do it by hand,
french.sty as an option includes this changes.

Proviso: The procedure above does not work, if you use LaTeX and LaTeX
documentstyles which date before 1-dec-1991  (or the now obsolete
international LaTeX). In this case, get the newest LaTeX from the farfamed
TeX-Servers (Stuttgart or Aston).

Yours, J"org Knappen. 
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: sanders@server.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Michael Sanders)
Subject: Re: DOS tex(t) editor
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 17:11:49 EDT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Michigan

In article <1992Sep28.164554.10173@julian.uwo.ca> mrensing@irus.rri.uwo.ca ( Michael Rensing) writes:
>From: mrensing@irus.rri.uwo.ca ( Michael Rensing)
>Subject: DOS tex(t) editor
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:45:54 GMT

>I am installing LaTeX (emTeX) on a pc, and I would like to know if there are 
>any good DOS text editors which can go directly to the line number generated 
>by LaTeX when there is an error in the .TEX file. What I'm looking for should
>be a bare bones text editor so that it starts up and exits quickly for fast 
>corrections.

I use qedit, which is small and fast, to do exactly what you
want. It has a command line switch to go to a line number.
(I couldn't email to mrensing@irus.rri.uwo.ca)

Michael Sanders                                Internet: t.m.sanders@umich.edu
Physics Department                             Bitnet: sanders@umiphys
University of Michigan                         Telephone: (313)936-0799
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120                       FAX: (313)763-9694
From: Miroslav Dont <DONT%CSEARN.BITNET@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: mystery of three dots
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:39:49 MDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List



I would like to know how to write three dots on the end
of a sentence. I suppose that if the three dots are part
of the sentence, then no dot ending the sentence is
written after the three dots (is it right?).
But my problem concerns the three dots on a sentence which
are part of a formula. I do not know whether in this case
a (fourth) dot ending the sentence is written. If yes, what is
the right space between the three dots and the dot ending the
sentence? If the three dots are centered (\cdots), then one
can write the last dot just after $ and the result looks
nice. But with the \ldots the result looks like four equaly
spaced dots, which is awful. What to do in this case? What
are the exact rules?
Thank you for any answer.
Miroslav Dont
dov
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: dvips' epsffile with rotation?
From: dov@menora.weizmann.ac.il (Dov Grobgeld)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:44:22 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center.
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I have a graphics package which outputs the epsf-files rotated
the wrong way, so I need to rotate them before inserting them
into my TeX file with the \epsffile macro that comes with dvips.
The documentation of dvips describes a parameter for special, 'angle',
which allows you to rotate a figure. Unfortunately \epsffile makes no
use of this parameter. Has anyone extended \epsffile to allow
specification of a rotation angle? Or does someone have a program
(or algorithm) of how to rotate the postscript file, which changes
the bounding box coordinates as well.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: aggarwal@tigger.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Subject: NFSS in SliTeX
Summary: How to create a SliTeX fmt file using NFSS ?
Originator: aggarwal@r2d2.jvnc.net
Keywords: SliTeX NFSS New Font Selection Scheme
Organization: JvNCnet
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:07:57 GMT

Sorry if this is a FAQ question, but I have to get some slides
prepared... please email me any responses also.

I wanted to use adobe fonts in my SliTeX slides. I have installed
the  NFSS (New Font Selection Scheme) for LaTeX, and that works
fine, but how do I do it for SliTeX ?

Do I need to input a different 'lfonts.new' than the one I used for
LaTeX ??

Thanks,

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