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From: moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert)
Subject: Re: Manx personalities
Organization: University of Washington Libraries, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:43:52 GMT


According to The Harper's Illustrated Handbook of CATS, manx are supposed to
be goofy, playful and very owner oriented. My own personal expierence is 
that this is true but then again I only had one manx (Mary, RIP). She was
an adorable runt of the litter and would follow me around the house wherever
I went. She would play at the drop of a milk jug ring and was extremely
affection to me. She liked other people but really seemed to single me out
as the person she wanted to be around.

I envy your opportunity to get a manx. I can't find any manx breeders around
Seattle. There can be problems with manx, though. The lack of tail is a
mutation and is really a spinal deformaty. They can have nerve damage in 
their butts and have problems pooping. get it check by a vet to make sure
it's okay.

-joe
-- 
==============================================================================
moe@u.washington.edu
Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.
From: ken@ece.orst.edu (KEN MCCRACKEN)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: is this flea spray toxic?
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:19:32 GMT
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering Department, OSU

In article <Bvt90q.G2y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes) writes:

>Have you bathed your cat for fleas??  Flea sprays really are made to
>be used in-between bathings, and should only be sprayed around the neck,
>rump, and groin area where fleas usually try to go first.  Ovitrol
>is in fact safe to use on cats but sprays should only be used to 
>supplement a bath rather than substituting for one because sprays are
>more toxic than baths.  If your cat has problmes with carbaryl, you might
>want to try using a product with d-limolene as the active ingredient to
>kill the fleas.  You can ask your vet if he/she knows anyone who sells it
>because it seems to be less toxic to the pet and it smells nice :-)
>Like an orange grove :-)  Anyway, try and bathe your cat to kill the
>fleas initially and then use the spray to keep them off.  (Yes, I am
>well aware of what a joy it is to bathe a cat ;-)

>Good luck!!


>-- 

If you start early enough, and remember that kitty has a higher body 
temperature than yours, kitty will actually begin to like it!  We were 
advised by our vet to bathe kittens who are too young for any kind of flea 
stuff, which meant younger than six weeks.  He said to use 50% diluted baby 
shampoo.  The shampoo breaks down the surface tension of the water, and 
drowns the flea.

If your kitty is light skinned, it can be even more fun.  While kitty is 
still very wet, the fleas can't hide in the fur as easily.  That's when you 
reach for the needle-nosed pliers, and...

[heh heh heh]
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Do antibiotics increase appetite?
Summary: [long]
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:07:52 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Well Angelica seems to be doing fine.  She is still hopping on 3 legs
and being moderatly antisocial but she DID try to eat my finches!  So,
I think she'll live.  What I am wondering about is this.  

Since returning from the vet she has been on antibiotics.  She has
also been eating like she has never seen food before!  She has been
loosing weight continually for about 6 months (2 lbs in 6 months for
an 8 lb cat is alot, she is 6 lbs now) and the vet is going to run
some tests in 3 weeks if she doesn't improve.  She never went off her
food and is fine with the litter box and I catch her drinking out of
the toilet all the time ( actually, I end up sitting on a wet seat
right after she drinks eewwww)  Could it be the antibiotics increasing
her appetite?  Has anyone else had experience with this?

[OK here we go into extra innings]
Shes a good cat, not too friendly, but not anti social.
She eats her food (cozy kitten) and doesnt complain, occasionally she
will eat fast and throw up but she digs right back in.
when I left her at the vet I went shopping and picked up a trial of
Purina o.n.e and some soft friskies to hide her pills in (and its
working shhh don't tell her) and I gave her the o.n.e. as a little
treat when she was feeling better.  She ate it like she hadn't had
food in days ( and I know for a fact she had eaten within the last 1/2
hour) and she's been going at that rate for 2 days.  She is engorged!
I have never seen her looking or feeling so ROUND.  
She is even eating kitty treats and she normally hates those!
The vet said that the cozy kitten was ok, as was toilet drinking but
the weight loss was BAD ( he suggested an organ problem or FIV :(
I plan on buying a big bag of o.n.e (Amos turned his nose up at it at
first, then I think he say the price tag!) and letting her go hog wild
to see if she will put the weight back on.

So...whats the deal?

Is the cozy kitten not nutrient dense enough? (ie, is she eating till
shes full and not getting enough nutrients?)
	and if so, why would she suddenly eat till she is round
	instead of the constant nibble she use to do?

Are the antibiotics increasing her appetitie by leaps and bounds?

Does Purina o.n.e. have a bizzare state of the art 'eat' hormone in it?

Was she suffering some odd eating disorder that the antibiotics helps
eliminate and now she is making up for lost time?

If you have any ideas, suggestions or experience with anything even
close to this PLEASE let me know.  I want to know what I'm dealing
with, be it simple hunger pangs or kidney disease.  Angelica and I
appreciate it!

Joan
-- 
J. C. Maxfield				maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu
DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!
From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Has my cat gone mad?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:26:30 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <Bvr6pI.EDD@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
> [ thread about grown-up cats chasing their tails like kittens... ]
> 
> Muriel is very selective about where she does this.  She has decided that
> the bath is her Kitten Regression Room.  Once in it, she will roll around
> doing somersaults trying to catch her tail and swipe at her distorted
> reflection in the glaze; the positions she gets into while chasing the
> Giant Green Stretchy Funhouse Cat are completely unbecoming the elegant
> young lady she evidently regards herself as for most of the time.  She
> never takes any interest in her tail anywhere else.  Anyone else's cat have
> places that set them off like this?
> 
> -- 
> --  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,
> 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
> INTERNET: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk or via nsfnet-relay.ac.uk    FAX: 041 330 4913
> BANG!net: via mcsun and uknet     BITNET: via UKACRL    UUCP: jack@glasgow.uucp


Yes!!  My bed!!  And with 7 (yes - seven) cats it gets rather messy!  But I
love everyone of them.

Nancy
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: rec.pets.cats FAQ (part 2/3)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:50:21 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <4207@prune.bbn.com>, cherniac@bbn.com (Natasha Cherniack) writes:
> 
>> To help prevent this kind of vomiting, feed your cat on a regular
>> basis some petroleum jelly (aka as Vaseline).  If they don't like it,
>> you can try Petromalt, a malt-flavored petroleum jelly.  Pats of
> 
> I have read that this isn't a good thing to feed cats as it is somewhat toxic.
> Mineral oil will loosen a fur ball the same way petroleum jelly will but it's
> better for the cat.

Mineral oil and petroleum jelly (petrolatum) are both purified petroleum
products-- the petroleum jelly just has a few more double bonds than
the other.  Nutritionally equivalent, and pretty neutral unless you're
being overly generous over a fair period of time, from all I've heard.
My preference is for solid laxatives, since I don't really have to
worry about inhalation pneumonia like I do when I'm forcing a liquid.
But that may simply reflect the fact that my cats are more cooperative
with pills than with liquids.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat dead, to do?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 15:38:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


This is meant as a very gentle suggestion...  The indignity
and ugliness of the barrel full of dead animals at the shelter
is the kind of image that would haunt me, long after I would
have finished grieving.  Adopting another cat from that same
shelter-- especially one grown past kittenhood, and harder to
place-- might make you feel a little better.
 
I'm NOT suggesting that you "replace" your lost friend.  But a
lot of what happened is stuff you didn't see: how your cat died,
who found the body, and the barrel.  Our imaginations are endless,
and this concerns a friend of yours, which makes it twice as awful.
You might feel better going to the shelter with a friend, adopting
a cat, and carrying her/him home in your arms.  It might make you
cry, but there in your arms would be someone you protected from
the barrel.  That realness might help you feel balanced.  Anyway,
it's something to think about.
 
Take care...
 
***j***
--
From: cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Limping Kitty thanks you!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:56:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpspkla.44030001
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.

Thanks everyone on the advice for the Limping Kitty, posted in rec.pets.
No, I didn't know about rec.pets.cats, what a wonderful thing.  Anyway, I 
am going to make a vet appointment now, the only reason I haven't yet is 
because Spot still eats, plays, purrs, runs around and everything she did beforeshe started limping.  I am convinced, however, and we will be taking a trip to 
the V*E*T very soon.  Thanks again, it is really nice to be able to get good
info from the folks who know. 

Colleen and the girls, Steve and Spot
From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat shows in the usa
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:45:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3961
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct13.221512.679@news.vanderbilt.edu> LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb) writes:
>In <3942@unisql.UUCP> collene@unisql.UUCP writes:
>
>> (Obviously I'm not a breeder, or I would know what the proper abbreviations
>> for the cat organizations are.  ;-) )
>
>Here they are:
>CFA    Cat Fanciers' Association
>       (the USA's largest; considers Himalayans to be Persians)
>TICA   The International Cat Association
>       (USA+Canada; second-largest, widest variety of breeds)
>CFF    Cat Fanciers' Federation
>ACA    American Cat Association
>ACFA   American Cat Fanciers' Association
> (TICA, CFF, ACA, and ACFA jointly sponsor the All-American awards.)
>CCA    Canadian Cat Association
>GCCF   Governing Council of the Cat Fancy (UK)
>FIFE   Fidiration Internationale Feline de l'Europe

Thanks for the information.  I will file this away. :-)

Perhaps the first poster will respond with where she will be visiting in 
the US.  I brought my latest Cat Fancy to the office so I can look up the 
location for her/him.

BTW -  TICA  -  I attend every cat show that they have in my area, but I 
never pay much attention to the names of the organizations which host the
shows.  Therefore, I always thought that TICA was the "Texas (division of
the) International Cat Assoc."  ;-)  And, I'm not even a native Texan. ;-)

Also I _know_ that INCATS is something, but not what it is.  I used to
attend INCATS shows in Tulsa, OK back in the late 70's.


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From: klipec@homes.Princeton.EDU (Kathy Klipec Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Phone hating cat
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:06:20 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <4erKyjG00WBM01ZvFY@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jean Andrews <ja23+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> My cat Mac hates when the phone rings.  Luckily our one phone is on the
|> wall.  The upstairs phone has to be hidden in a drawer when we leave or
|> it is ALWAYS off the hook.  I even turned the ringer off but when the
|> downstairs phone rings I suppose he thinks that the other phone will ring
|> so he still knocks it off the hook.  I guess I could close the bedroom
|> door (which I did once) and he ripped my roll of paper towels to shreds.
|> I guess he was a bit mad that I stopped him from sleeping on HIS warm
|> waterbed.  Does anyone else have a cat that does this to phones?
|> 
|> Jean, two daughters, Strawberry (horse), Mac (cat), Fred (fish)

My cat Spooky just LOVES the phone; he nuzzles it until it comes off the
hook.  Consequently all phones except the one wall phone are tied down
with bungee cords...we tried Scotch taping the hook down but the tape
gets "tired" and releases.  Spooky does this whether or not the phone
rings, so I think it's just a convenient scratching post.  The bungee
cords do baffle visitors, but it was fairly convenient (and effective)
solution.

Kathy
From: rdosser@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (rdosser)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: fraidy cat
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:13:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: utkux1.1992Oct7.191340.14284
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

In article <1992Oct6.175307.6676@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>In article <BvoG7w.MxM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul L
>arsen) writes:
>>Help, we have a real friady cat on our hands and have no idea what to do!
>>Whenever strangers come over to our house, the cat literal runs to the
>>farthest point from them!  Today, I was holding the cat and the mailperson
>>unexpectedly showed up.  The cat scrambled to get out of my arms (which I woul
>d
>>think would be considered safe haven), scratching me really bad in the process
>.
>>She used to be ok around strangers (taking a little while to warm up), but
>>now she almost seems to be what would be termed agoraphobic in people.  She
>>is not the friendliest cat to begin with, but what she is doing now seems
>>ridiculous!  Any advice would be very helpful!
>>Paul Larsen
>>larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu
>
I have the same problem, but one of them is scared of everything, and
runs away from me if I make any sudden moves. They also seem to forget
who I am and run away when I come home from work.
Yes, please, somebody post some advice!

rdosser@utkux.utk.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Need help - traumatic flea removal situation
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:26:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.151228.21338@odin.corp.sgi.com> lruben@persian.csd.sgi.com (Lara Ruben) writes:
>
>If you notice tiny rice shaped
>particles on Morsel's behind or poop in litter box, you'll need to
>go back to the vet!

What exactly are the rice-shaped particles? (I mean, what part of the tape-
worm?) When I asked about the "albino planarian" I found a few weeks ago, the
answer was "tapeworm", but I haven't seen anything resembling rice at all,
and this thing was considerably larger than a grain of rice.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: amanda@rana.usc.edu (Amanda Bischoff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: does your cat do this?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 11:30:40 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rana.usc.edu

ACK!  I accidentally used reply rather than followup -- sorry about that!
....whose bright idea was it to put the f and r keys so close to each other,
anyway? :)

In article <Bvuu63.9Kw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> you write:
>My wife and I have come to the conclusion that our cat is a sports afficianado.
>Quite often when we have a basketball or baseball game on the cat will become
>quite interested in it.  This usually ends up with her jumping up onto the tv
>and peering down to the screen like a vulture.  After watching the game for a 
>little while, she will start following the ball with her head and then start
>batting at the ball with her paw.  This can go on for 15-20 minutes until she
>gets bored.  Does anyone else's cat do this?
My 3 1/2 month old Siamese, Ozzy (short for Osiris) is also a tv watcher.
He enjoys watching football games, and has also shown a liking for Star
Trek: The Next Generation (good thing, too, since I'm a Trekker).

Ozzy's other favorite screen to watch is when I'm working on the MacIntosh.
He will watch from my lap for a bit, then walk across the keyboard to sit
directly in front of the screen, and start batting at the cursor.  He also
seems to like the beeps it makes when I screw up.  My guess is that he's
preparing himself to be a graduate student like his mommy.

Amanda



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: art30358@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG HWAI AUN)
Subject: HELP:  Need advice about fat kittens
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:03:05 GMT


I have an eight month old and a three month old kitten (both, that is)
and both of them seem to have paunches!  I seem to have read somewhere
that overfeeding them with nutritional supplements can cause problems.
I wonder if this is the case with my kittens.  I have been feeding them
with Hill's Science Diet Kitten Growth formula dry food, Mirra-Coat
(which is a supplement for thick fur) as well as Kitzymes (vitamin
supplement).  I have followed the feeding instructions.  Any one know
why?

PS.  By the way, the eight month old is a tabby Persian and the other is
a blue point Himalayan.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: re: help needed to save cat
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:35:48 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Vet time!  That bloody diarrhea is a real clue he's got something wrong,
most likely worms.  Probably cost you about $30 all told for an exam and
figuring out which worms and the proper medication.

Then use the litter box retraining method in the FAQ when the diarrhea
stops.  And keep the litter box scrupulously clean -- he may be objecting
to that, or to the texture of the kitty litter (try another brand).

good luck!

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI

  P.S.  Your email address seems to be incomplete.  Bouncing mail & all that...
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Nasty Tapeworms-
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:11:16 GMT
	<lswan.34.0@ucsd.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Distribution: na
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992


>
>>Droncit tablets, obtained at the vet and given in two doses two weeks apart 
>>whenever tapes make their appearance, cost about $1.50 apiece and are the 
>>remedy of choice for tapes.
>
>I've been told that these pills cost about $12-$13 each from the vet.  Is 
>this just another S. California rip off?  Could someone else please comment 
>on cost in their area?


here is massachusetts. at my vet. hosp., droncit or cestex(both are used for
tapeworm treatment) costs $3.50, including tax, for a single pill which
will treat a cat up to 10 pounds.  
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Tasha catches first mouse, owners concerned :-)
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:32:03 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


	A couple of mornings ago, Tasha, our 8 month old Russian
Blue, caught her first mouse.  She woke us up running around scratching
at the carpet (dropping the mouse and picking it up and dropping...you
get the idea).  I thought she was playing with a rubber band!

	Anyways, my wife and I captured the still-alive mouse and
escorted it off the premises.  Now, Tasha spends *a lot* of time
looking/hovering around the bottoms of the kitchen cabinets.  I'm
hoping there aren't any more mice in there!  My questions:

	* wondering if there's much chance that she could have picked
	up any diseases, etc. from the mouse?

	* if she's going to go through a phase of hanging out looking for
	more mice, how long do you rekon a healthly young female (recently
	spayed) will keep this up?  days?  weeks?

	Through all of this, her older brother (15 months) Rudolph hasn't
shown the slightest interest!  He just cares about jumping into the bathtub
to get his water from the faucet...what a weirdo.

				Daniel
-- 
     Daniel Smith, Autodesk, Sausalito, California, (415) 332-2344 x 2580
	      Disclaimer: written by a highly caffeinated mammal
	    dansmith@autodesk.com            dansmith@well.sf.ca.us
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Farting Kitten
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:18:11 GMT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1992Oct14.123028.25401@gssec.bt.co.uk>, dgordon@gssec.bt.co.uk (David Gordon) writes:
>Bianca is the friendliest seven month old kitten anywhere (oh yes she 
>is). Trouble is she has a problem that not even her best friends will
>tell her about - she has *THE* most disgusting gas/wind (depending on
>what side of the Atlantic you are) problem. When she farts it is as
>though she has had a serious accident and the smell usually clings to
>her fur for 10 - 15 minutes giving the impression of a dose of the 
>runs that she's forgotten to clean up properly.  :-(
>
>She has been fed on both dry and tinned food - to no avail. Can
>anyone suggest a cure before I throw up on my nice new lounge carpet ?
>

Well my first kitten (Diesel...wonder where the name came from;-)) suffered from 
this as well. Every time you picked her up she would let loose with a most 
disgusting aroma. The only thing I can suggest is stick to dry food and she will 
eventually out grow it.

Bob