HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (ENTROPY. IT'S THE LAW)
Subject: Re: Conspiracy
Summary: More info  
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: Conspiracy
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:20:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.215911.27106@sunova.ssc.gov>, micron@iiraq.ssc.gov (Joe Micron)    writes...
> 
>My friend told me I should post this to your newsgroup.
> 
Smart friend

>I am working part-time at the Marriot hotel in Dallas, Tx. Last
>week I was sent down to the basement to clean up some boxes and

[lots of curious stuff deleted]

>Flipping, flipping, flipping. Yes ! No. That date November 22, 1963 is
>missing. Oh man. What is this? Quickly I looked at the 21st and 23rd.
>I don't know what I was looking for but someone took the 22nd and

[more stuff deleted]

>names stuck out. Two did. In room 702 and adjoining room 704 were two
>people I had never thought of having anything to do with "_that_day_".
>In 702 was a Frank Sutton and in 704 was Robert Crane.
> 
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>!!!!  704 looks right out into Dealy Plaza !!!!
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
Pardon my ignorance, but who are Sutton and Crane? And how, and when did
they die? Finally, did they know each other? I don't remember seeing their
names in this group.

>Any suggestions on what I should do with the receipts ?
> 
Keep the receipts for the relevant days. Return everything else, and 
put everything back the way it was. 
Also, do you have access to the old hotel registar (if that isn't the
same thing as the receipts). If you can, find out if anything is 
different between the registar and the receipts. When you 
have searched every place you can think of, you might want to 
ask your boss (or somebody else) where old reciepts are kept.
Are they're any other hotels within a block of Dealy Plaza? 

>Who _CAN_ be trusted ?
> 
I'm sure just about anybody you know can be trusted not to fink on
you. BUT, I'm sure that at least some of your friends can trusted to
talk a lot too. The problem is who might overhear it.

-Garrett
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:10991 alt.conspiracy.jfk:3417
From: robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.paranoia,alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: alt.conspiracy.jfk Under Attack
Keywords: alt.conspiracy.jfk under attack
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:05:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Organization

In article <1992Oct2.205859.6522@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) writes:
>
>    I think that all concerned readers should e-mail this article
>    to their systems administrators. It's their job to protect 
>    our systems of communication. Despite the lack of evidence in
>    Doug's bulletin, the systems administrators need only investigate
>    the situation and take corrective action if the charges are true.


  John DiNardo seems to have many contacts among the conspiracy
and paranoia communities, so he would be a logical person to 
investigate this.  Then, when he completes the investigation,
he could follow his usual practice of posting the results
numerous times over, cross-posting to many inappropriate newsgroups.
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Satanic Roots of Rock - Creating the Counterculture
Date: 2 Oct 1992 04:54:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a post here Bob Ingria asks why DOnald Phau, in the article I
posted, failed to mention Jimmy Page buyong Crowley's estate, etc.

My guess is that he probably did his research under time pressure, 
and simply failed to collect all the facts relevant to his thesis.
Could have happened to anybody.

Unless you have covered this question in another post I haven't seen
yey, what do you think of the facts, connections etc. that he DID
include?
-Steve
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Energy industry being destroyed
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:06:02 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <91299@netnews.upenn.edu> david@penndrls.upenn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep16.224927.10687@rchland.ibm.com>, jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
>> Good.  The Oil companies have ruled America long enough.  Example:  raising
>> gas prices during the gulf war.  Or just over a holiday weekend.
>
>This is called the law of supply and demand.  Iraq's actions caused a
>decrease in the future supply of oil, so prices had to increase to
>compensate.  This caused oil production to be more attractive, and
>increased the supply, resulting in lower prices.  By the February following
>the peak prices during the war (ie: one year later), gas prices were
>the lowest they have ever been, when corrected for inflation and taxes.
>In fact, pump prices hit 89 cent/gal briefly, even /without/ those corrections.
>Remember, congress' response to the increased gas prices caused by
>Saddam was to increase the gasoline tax.

I would argue that the increased supply was due to Saudi Arabia rewarding
the US for fighting the Gulf War.  The Saudi's use supply/demand
dynamics to their perceived political advantage.  The resulting supply
and corresponding price are therefore due to the Saudi response to
the political situation.
>

-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Satanic Roots of Rock - Creating the Counterculture
Date: 4 Oct 1992 18:22:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


spl@alex.uucp (Steve Lamont) writes:

>In article <1amca3INNmsu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> 
>aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:

>>                                  ... Nixon was not driven from office
>>because of whatever he may actually have been guilty of regarding
>>the Watergate cover-up. He was driven from office because powerful 
>>people wanted him out of office and sicced their lap dogs of the press 
>>on him. ...

>Yeah, powerful people like just about everyone under thirty and a hell
>of a lot of them over that age.
>
>Every once in a long while, the system works.
>
>                                                        spl

Sorry, but that's not what happened. Nixon was hated for years by the 
growing anti-war movement, with no noticible effect. The Watergate
break-in came and went with only minor press coverage. Then, rather 
suddenly, the press "discovered" Watergate, and "related" scandals
such as campaign financing irregularities and began a concerted attack
on Nixon. None of Nixon's enemies among the common people had the 
power necessary to cause these attacks. 

-Steve
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: ksjwr@acad3.alaska.edu (REDELSS JOHN W)
Subject: Re: alt.conspiracy.jfk under attack!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:30:00 GMT

In article <15917@mindlink.bc.ca>, Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes...
>> Double Agent writes:
>>
>> Msg-ID: <52.X6661@ramona.com>
>> Posted: 02 Oct 92 04:29:01 GMT
>>
>> Org.  : Ramona Engineering
>>
>> I've been tipped off that someone at one of the main news distribution
>> sites has installed a program that randomly deletes a percentage of
>> postings to alt.conspiracy.jfk. This program has been running for months.
>> Why would some sick hacker do this? Supposedly to make a.c.j posters
>> feel more paranoid than they really are when their postings don't get
>> answered.
>>
> 
> 
>Lee Harvey Oswald did it.
> 
> 
>--
>Jeremy_Reimer@ |"Anti-ninjas were the most feared assassins in the world.
>mindlink.bc.ca | Instead of appearing out of thin air, throwing metal stars
>---------------| and messing around with bo staffs and numchuks they simply
>aka THE JAGUAR!| shot people and then drove everyone mad with pointless
>---------------| conspiracy theories for years afterwards."
>Stealth Sig#42 |  --From "N-Man #3"

Where are you Lee Harvey Oswald, now that we need you? <grin>
From: NLG Civil Liberties Committee <cberlet@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:02 PDT
Subject: Re: Wit & Wisdom of Fascist LaRouche
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1299600067:cdp:1299600073:000:631
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cberlet    Sep 27 18:02:00 1992



Steve, it's the offhanded lies that will catch you every time. There are
photographs of the victims of LaRouche's "Operation Mop-Up." Several people
were hospitalized. The violence was systematic and happened in several
cities. I have interviewed both victims and former LaRouchians who were
ordered to go beat people up.
   You claim to be an intellectual yet you accept as fact material from
notorious and convicted liars. My evidence comes from interviewing
first-hand witnesses and participants for my articles on LaRouche.
Where do you get your evidence?
-Chip Berlet
(P.S. Steve: go for the big lies...it worked for Hitler)
From: elite@igc.apc.org (Elite Enterprises)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: IS THE GOV'T REALLY BAD!
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:57:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1299600079:000:2047
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!elite    Oct  2 21:57:00 1992


the gov't also can transfer data through the airwaves...just like copying 
diskettes but without the diskettes. they also can do some wierd stuff
through the telephone lines in othe words, they can do some wonderful mind
games with any human who picks up the telephone. i guess it's in the vibrations.

i know of two scholars that have been totally "crack-up" by this. One committed
suicide and the other was committed. luckily the second one has been released
and doing well. This person is a genius and 100 years ahead of the present.
his old apartment has been broken into at least a half dozen a times to steal design concepts.

this person can't figure out what was done over the telephone lines.

all he told me was...his mind was being absorbed through the telephone line.

this information is for your research. i will not comment any further on this topic.
as of this date he is no threat to any government. they WON!

but life goes on. remember knowledge is power!!

P.S. I firmly believe the gov't should keep certain technologies away from the general public...many of you will probably think i'm gov't but that's life.

there are many cooks out there. i rather the technolical secrets be in a some handful of persons. 

being an ex-aero engineer...all i can tell you is we have designs and technoligies that would blow your mind. I also believe in the famous "Dulles" compart-
mentalized secrets. many persons couldn't deal with the real truth and
i don't blame them. i rather be left in the dark then find out some hideous secrets that are not worth dying for.

Nobody is correct...disinformation is everywhere!! it's up to the researcher to
decipher from the lies and truths..
i understand your reasons but you have to look at the other side of the token.

jfk had his bad side too. but his bad side did good for everybody as a whole.

i think the govt has its bad points but they also have its good points and i think a lot of 
people forget this.

well that's enough ofr now...i'm usually a reader not a writer to this conference
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:10981 talk.politics.misc:49558 phl.misc:256 pa.general:326 alt.activism:17174
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,phl.misc,pa.general,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Dioxin
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:23:21 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <9oPZRB1w164w@cellar.org>, techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:
|> PANEL OF SCIENTISTS FINDS DIOXN DOES NOT POSE WIDESPREAD CANCER THREAT.
|>     An independent panel of scientists concluded Friday (9/25) that dioxin 
|> was not a large-scale cancer threat except to people exposed to unusually 
|> high levels of the toxic compound in chemical factories and from accidents. 
|> But its study of international research showed that exceedinly small minute 
|> levels biological havoc among fish, birds, and other wild animals. The 
|> findings are the clearest statements ever made by a overnment-sponsored panel 
|> about the potential risks from dioxin. Its work is part of an official 
|> reassment of the potential hazards of dioxin the Environmental Protection 
|> Agency began in 1991. Since the early 1970's, when dioxin was discovered as a 
|> contamient in Agent Orange, few pollutants have received as much attention 
|> from the public or the government. The panel, which met for the first time 
|> over four days in the last week, said almost all of the dioxin in the tissues 
|> of ordinary Americans came from eating Beef, chicken, dairy products and 
|> fish, and several panelists said in interviews they did not consider those 
|> typical levels to pose an important health hazard.
|> From the NEW YORK TIMES 9/26/92

DIOXIN - your friend and mine!

BILL!!!!  WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BACON!!!

I think Bill has been sprinkling dioxin on his breakfast cereal for
just a little to long.

Jared "MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....Dioxin" Dahl
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From: NLG Civil Liberties Committee <cberlet@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: 05 Oct 92 18:47 PDT
Subject: Re: Berlet vs. Dallas Morning News  (wa
Nf-ID: #R:3OCT199219125157@utarlg.uta.edu:1896698051:cdp:1299600082:000:790
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cberlet    Oct  5 18:47:00 1992



Re: Stockdale & Rockford

According to Hoover Institute and Rockford Institute, here's the scoop.
Stockdale became a senior research fellow at Hoover in 1981, following
his employment at the Citadel. For a period in the late 1980's, including
1989, he was on the Board of Directors of the Rockford Institute (based
in Rockford Illinois). The Hoover position is the full time position, the
Rockford directorship was in the nature of outside related activity and
was at the same time as the Hoover job. No conflict here, folks, but while
Stockdale did <remain> at Hoover after leaving Rockford's directorship, it
was misleading to say that Stockdale went to Hoover after leaving Rockford.
     Cite for Stockdale in print:
        Rockford Institute, Annual Report 1989, p. 23.
-Chip Berlet
From: spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:17:38 GMT
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitstop.ucsd.edu

In article <awRXRB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
>We still haven't received the original here nor any follow-up
>responses. 
> 
>Please retransmit the original.

We can't.  It's a conspiracy.

							spl
-- 
Steve Lamont, SciViGuy -- (619) 534-7968 -- spl@szechuan.ucsd.edu
UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UCSD Med School/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"If you don't think people are this crazy, you need to move to LA!"
                                     - Gary Stollman
From: NLG Civil Liberties Committee <cberlet@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:19 PDT
Subject: Re: Growth of Christian Identity
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1299600066:cdp:1299600074:000:1526
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cberlet    Sep 27 18:19:00 1992


Hi,
   Some persons have asked about my definition of Fascism, not a word I
throw around lightly. I have posted a new topic "What is Fascism?" that
outlines my position. For further information on the Christian
Identity Movement I suggest the cleverly titled "The 'Christian'
Identity Movement: Analyzing its Theological Rationalization for
Racist and Anti-Semitic Violence" by Leonard Zeskind of the Center for
Democratic Renewal, published by the National Council of Churches, Division
of CHurch and Society. Also see "The American Neo-Nazi Movement Today" by
Elinor Langer, The Nation, July 16-23, 1990. Langer lists Christian
Identity among the groups and movements she defines as neo-Nazi.
   For those who wondered what I do...I am a paralegal investigator employed
by Political Research Associates in Cambridge, MA. I have worked on several
lawsuits against government intelligence abuse. My articles have appeared
in the Boston Globe, Chicago Sun-Times, Des Moines Register, The Progressive,
In These Times, Etc. I have been interviewed on all three TV network news
programs, been quoted in the New York Times, and appeared live on the
Today Show to discuss racist right hate groups. I am secretary of the
National Lawyers Guild Civil Liberties Committee, and a founding co-editor
of Police Misconduct & Civil Rights Law Report. None of this makes my
views any more important that anyone else on the net, but it does show that
other people have found that it the long run my research has proven
reliable.
-Chip Berlet

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: cortez@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner)
Subject: Re: Part I, BUSH/CLINTON: Co-Conspirators in CIA Drug Smuggling Industry
Keywords: BUSH/CLINTON: Co-Conspirators in CIA Drug Smuggling Industry
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:03:36 GMT

jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) writes:


>        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
>        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
>               WBAI-FM (99.5)
>               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
>               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

>~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~   ~
>	A telephone interview with Mark Swaney from "Faithful Arkansas" 
>	a citizens group, revealing Bill Clinton's and George Bush's 
>	partnership in the CIA's drug smuggling industry which for years 
>	has been funneling tons of narcotics through Mena, Arkansas
>        and into the hands of America's youth. 

>*   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *
>MARK SWANEY:

>   	Anyway, in the summer of `87, even as the hearings were going 
>	on in Congress, Terry Reed began to suspect they were using 
>	his front company for something other than smuggling weapons. 

Uh .... sorry for being such a stickler about this, but has anyone ever
found any evidence at all to corroborate anything Terry Reed claims?

I mean, come on, Clinton part of the secret Contra supply network?
Don't you think there ought to be some kind of evidence, more than someone
just telling a strange and bizarre story about how he was supposedly
framed, before you start expounding something so flat out silly?

Oh wait, there is corroboration, from ......


.......  Michael Riconosciuto!!!


Hmmm.... I wonder if this means Clinton has ties to suburban Seattle Satanists.

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,phl.misc,pa.general
From: techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,phl.misc,pa.general
Subject: the trilateralists
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:45:04 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

the Trilateralists part 3 of 3 parts
   The Trilateral Commision is another influential Establishment organ, many 
members of which also belong to the CFR. In 1970, Dr. Zbignew Brezezinski 
(CFR) raised the concept of tri-lateralism in his book  Between Two Ages. He 
called for the forging of a "community of the developed nations that would 
embrace the Atlantic states, the more advanced European communist states, and 
Japan" as a stepping stone to world government. Three years later, David 
Rockerfeller, then CFR chairman, formally launched the Tri-lateral Commission 
and made Brezezinski its first director.
    Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter was an early member. Following his election 
in 1976, President Carter packed his Adminstration with Tri-lateralists and 
CFR members, Brzezinski became his national security advisor.
    Interestingly, Democratic presidential candidate Bill Clinto is also a 
member of the Trilateral Commission, while his main opponent, Republican 
George Bush is listed by the Commision as a "formr member in public service."
      Why do policiies determental to our nation continue regardless of which 
political party is in power??????? An important clue to the answer is to be 
found in a careful study of the CFR and its allied organizations.

------
techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: The Satanic Roots of Rock - Creating the Counterculture
Date: 28 Sep 1992 05:15:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a post here Bruce Scott recommends Arthur Lyons as an 
authoratative source on Satanism. This is true, but it is important
to know that he is not a disinterested observer. He is at least
a former member of the Church of Satan and may still be active.

My source for this is Dr. Michael Aquino of the Temple of Set,
a spinoff from the Church of Satan, posting on the MAGICNET 
echo on Fido.
-Steve
From: ch571@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cat Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Eris
Date: 2 Oct 1992 21:35:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


YES!!! we are here, we are relatively real......and we rule the world!!!!!
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

ERIS and her holy bowling partner Otis are watching itchy and scratchy cartoons.

Her high holyness, Episcopos Atena'tec, high preistess of SADE, and serenity in blue, KSC, ORMS
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:10998 misc.headlines:6508
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,misc.headlines
Subject: ARF's Recommendation - Washington Report
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:45:53 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

About four or five weeks ago Jack Schmidling posted some information
on a magazine entitled "The Washington Report On Middle East Affairs".
Since ARF's comments on the net seem to generate lively discussions
at times and occasional vituperative flames, I sent off for a copy
as much out of curiosity as anything else.  

To my surprise, I received a well-written quality publication that
offered many worthwhile viewpoints and news reports that you are not
likely to see or hear in our highly filtered news media.  Whether
one agrees with all of the reports given or not, and who ever does in
reading any magazine, they are often informative and thought provoking.

Thanks, Jack, for the recommendation.

Joe Gaut
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: lesmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lee Harvey Oswald Smith)
Subject: Proposal: alt.discordia
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:13:22 GMT

I propose that there be a newsgroup called alt.discordia.

It would be devoted to:
	- Discordian stuff, i.e., Erisian philosophy, discussion of
	  Discordian literature (Illuminatus!, the Principia Discordia, etc.),
	  ideas for pranks and pseudo-pranks

It would fnord also be a great place for Discordians to meet on the Net.



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