From: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak)
Subject: WoD
Originator: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:27:54 GMT

jgd@dixie.co John De Armond

>hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:

>>Your homeowner will shoot one Cop, who will be very annoyed at the smudges
>>on his body armor.  The remaining five will stop charging and start
>>throwing in tear gas (_real_ tear gas, not the chicken soup they sell to
>>us civilians) and flashbangs.  Or they may just open fire with riot guns
>>and kill everything that moves.  And yes, they are expert shots.  I've
>>seen SWAT team Cops split playing cards edge on at 50 feet.  The people
>>they send into crack houses are not your average beat Cop.

>Let's see.  I'm in my safe room behind my cover, armed with my H&K 97 or
>AR-15 loaded with AP ammo and have trained to fire first at the torso
>and then the head.  You really think the lead pig is gonna just dust
>off his armor?  Even if the armor happens to stop the bullet?  Riiight.
>Remember, the context here is a trained homeowner defending his 
>house and family.

 Or maybe even just a High Vel .22 roundnose fired from a 20" barrel, which
 has been known to penetrate vests. (Is this still a problem with vests?).
 As John points out, the first 1-2 rounds go for center of mass, the rest
 start going for the head.  As for these Cops "split playing cards edge on
 at 50 feet".  Maybe some of them, but not the majority.  If they are such
 experts, why do they often manage to kill each-other, unarmed people, shoot
 themselves in the foot/ass with their own guns?

 The Cops I've seen shooting at the range have been a major dis-credit to
 the sport of shooting.  BTW:  The SWAT team doesn't go in on every raid.
 Only on those deemed high risk.

 The point is, I AM NOT A CRIMINAL!!  If someone kicks in my door at 2am,
 I'm not going to sit there and think, "Gee, maybe it's the police?".  Not
 being a criminal, why should I even assume that it is the police, regardless
 of what they are yelling.

 As for not resisting and "you won't get hurt".  This year the police all
 over this country have killed/injured un-armed people when they performed 
 raids.  Or how about that 60+ year old guy in CA. (?), where the government
 wanted his acres of property to add to their forest land.  He refused to
 sell, and fought them in court. Suddenly they decided that he was a drug
 dealer because they saw MJ plants in his backyard after flying over it at
 a couple 1,000 feet. (Yea, right).  They raided his home and killed him
 as he stood in the hallway holding an old revolver.  There was NO reason
 to raid his home like that.  As "violent" as he was, they could have arrested
 him just by ringing his doorbell and waiting for him to answer.  NO DRUGS/PLANTS
 WERE FOUND.

 The goverment wanted his property, and the fucking civil forfeiture laws
 gave them a way to get it.  The government should have to convict BEFORE
 forfeiture can be allowed.  Instead you can be stopped in the airport,
 on the street, or just about anywhere else. And if your carrying anything
 over a couple hundred bucks they can seize it without even charging you with
 a crime.  The WoD has sent our government out of control.  The WoD has
 become a war against the people and the BoR, and I'm getting sick of it.

 Oh well.  I've strayed a bit here, but this is a topic that really pisses
 me off.  It's just amazes me that we have canonized the "Drug Warriors",
 declared them heros, while they work to destroy the basic principles upon
 which our freedoms were founded.

 BTW: I DON'T think that all Cops are evil incarnents from hell, here to
 destroy our way of life.  I think most of the Cops, even the DEA types
 really do want to improve things by eliminating drugs.  However I feel
 that the WoD is being used as an excuse by those who create policy, to
 fashion a society/government in their image.


                                Bill Vojak
                                Bill_Vojak@stortek.com
                                NRA, ILA, CFC

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