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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: bottom
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:39:00 GMT

In article <Nov.18.09.46.33.1992.1539@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
>From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
>Subject: Re: bottom
>Date: 18 Nov 92 14:46:35 GMT
>satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>
>>In article <Nov.17.14.37.30.1992.7002@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>All this from a Giants fan!  How does 7 out of the last 8 times grab
>>>you?  
>
>>Oh to the tune of 2 Super Bowl wins over 1 loss (nyah nyah :-)).
>
>Keep your rings, as long as we finish fourth in the division and
>the GIANTS are FIFTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
Oh PULEEEEEZZZZEEE.  If that's the best you can do, you're pathetic.  The 
Jints have a good chance of taking the Skins at home, Phoenix and at least 
one of the Phili games.  :-)

I wont comment on the K.C. (playing good), Dallas (no need for comment 
here) or the away Phili game (usually a spoiler)  ;->  

Fine, we'll keep the SB rings, and ha ha ha you'll have your fourth place to 
CLING to next season...   ;-P
>
>GO EAGLES, CARDINALS, COWBOYS, and even the PIGSKINS!!!
Oh Sure why not just say "go everyone EXCEPT the Giants"

 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:50:47 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!! Oilers LOSE TO THE FISH!!!!

But There's a lot of smiles :-) here in Pittsburgh!  The Oilers have just
handed the Steelers the 1992 AFC Central Division Championship.  It's all but
over.  Thanks for the early Christmas present.  Cowher Power rules!!!
                                                                     -Rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Saints
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:16:18 GMT

jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>In article <1992Nov16.010311.24644@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

>>Question : why were the 49ers in such a hurry with 1st and goal at the
>>seven and 50 seconds left? Huddle up and let the clock run a little bit
>>for crying out loud! Fortunately it didn't end up costing them.
>>
>Perhaps it was the URGENCY of the situation, try and score ASAP.
>But, as you say, it didn't end up costing the Niners.

This reminds me of the Dolphin/Jet game here in Miami last year.  Behind
by less then a touchdown in the closing minutes, the Dolphins drive the
length of the field to face a 4th & goal from 2 or 3 yards out.  With
40 some seconds left they called a time out. I had no problem with them
taking the time out. My point is that they could have let the clock run
down to about 15 seconds before they called it.  If the Dolphins score 
the only way the Jets can win is if they run the kickoff back. If they
don't score who cares about the 25 seconds you let run off, the games over!
So.....  The Dolphins score and by having called the timeout to soon they
gave the Jets the time needed to come back and win.

Now...  on to reality...  Put yourself in Marino's position.  You
have just driven to put the team in the position to win.  The clocks
running with less then a minute, it's forth down, and the fans are going
crazy.  With all this shit going on do you have the sense to let the
clock run down before calling the timeout????

Ted
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Emmitt & Thurman's stats
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:27:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Could someone please let me know the stats for Emmitt Smith and Thurman
Thomas.  I'd like to know their rushing and receiving yards.  Thanks in
advance.
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
                        feel too bad.
From: nlatif@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: DALLAS LOSES!!! YES!!!
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:09:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

YES!!!!  What a game??  Cant believe that I stayed until the game's over just
watch the Cowgirls LOSE!!! Just made my day brighter after the eagles game.
Did the Giants lose too??  If they did, that means that all NFC east teams 
lost this week. 

GO EAGLES!!!

Azli.


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From: bud@sequent.com (Pat Hauke)
Subject: Packers: Workman's status
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:54:58 GMT


Will Workman return next week? Who is this 'E. Bennett'?

Thanks for the info in advance!

bud                         !
Pat Hauke		    ! 49ERS: SB WIN #5!
Sequent Computer Systems    !
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: alb2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Alvino Battistoni)
Subject: WIZARD PREDICTIONS !!!!!!!!!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: bgsu
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:50:26 GMT

Okay Fooball Fans, I must begin by saying "Last Week was really wierd!." 
There were so many up - sets, I'm not sure what to expect this week.  The
Wizard's Predictions are as follows : 

PICK OF THE WEEK -                CINCY AT DETROIT               CINCY by
14
							Cincinnati is not that great of a ball club, but let's face it, 
what does Detroit have left to think about except next season?  Cincy show
some brillance in their come-from-behind victory two weeks ago in Chicago. 
Gotta love Cincy at home against the toothless Lions.

KEY MATCHUP -                    HOUSTON AT MIAMI                MIAMI by
10
							Houston flat out sucks on the road on grass.  Both teams are in a
must-win situation.  Miami got smoked on Monday night against Buffalo, so
look for them to bounce back this week.  I simply can't see Houston getting
the job done without Warren Moon.

UPSET SPECIAL by WIZARD -         INDY AT PITTSBURGH             INDY by 6
							Whether they like to admit it or not, Pittsburgh is hurting without
big tight end Eric Green.  Pitt was not very impressive against the woeful
Lions last week, and even if they win, I strongly feel that a 12 point
spread is too much.  Pitt might pull it out in the end?

COMMENTS WELCOME !!!!!!!!
																																																							- WIZARD -
From: tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Troy Aikman
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:18:08 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA

I've been a 'Boys fan all of my life (even thru the dark ages!), and am
disgusted w/ the way Troy played in the final minute of the Rams game.
(That was all that was shown, here in 9er land).  

It made me mad the way he used the clock, and the final two plays into the
endzone? who was he throwing to???  I admit he is an above average  QB,  but
he  sure does look clueless at times.  I hope this is an experience issue and
not him being hard-headed.

WHew, just had to get that off of my chest!

Go Cowboys!!!
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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: 'Gang Green' (Re: Eagles' wings clipped, mouths run free)
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:07:25 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Distribution:  na

In article <1992Nov18.145848.21249@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>The defense didn't play well.  As a matter of fact, they played
>horrible.  But the GANG GREEN saved the offense so many times in the
>past that it would have been nice for the offense to return the favor
>for once.

I have to chuckle every time I see the Philly Defense referred to as "Gang
Green".  That was an apellation applied to a once formidable Green Bay
defence.  I salute the originality of the Philly Phans and Phront Ophphice.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
From: nlatif@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles @ Giants
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:53:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


A newspaper here in Philly put the Giants as the favorite against the Eagles
this Sunday.  Can somebody tell me why is that so?  What r the criterias of
choosing which team is the favorite besides a home game?? Thanks in advance.
Hasta Luego.

GO EAGLES!!!

Azli.
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From: bud@sequent.com (Pat Hauke)
Subject: Re: Phoenix Cardinals Nov 19 ,92
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:41:51 GMT

In article <RLAG10-191192114737@222.14.80.23> RLAG10@email.sps.mot.com (Gary Gavlick) writes:
>
>The Cardinals suffered several injuries in last weeks game.  This is a list
>of roster moves made by the Cardinals this week. (This information is from
>the Nov 19 edition of the Arizona Republic.)  

[stuff deleted]

>The game this week is the first time the local blackout in Phoenix has been
>lifted since a 1988 game against Dallas.  The sell-out was helped by the
>large number of Cowboy fans in the Phoenix area. 
>
>Gary Gavlick
>Motorola, Semiconductor - Tempe, Arizona
>"The opinions and views expressed here are solely my own and do not
>necessarily represent those of Motorola."


How does WR Ricky Proehl (sp?) fit into the offense? Is he third down, starter
or what?

TIA
bud


bud                         !
Pat Hauke		    !
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: 49ers / Aints
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:47:55 GMT


I can't help but feel really warm and cozy inside knowing that the 49ers 
have already beaten the Saints and Falcons twice this year.

Final: 49ers 21, Saints 20.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
==============================================================================
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: awhitton@bnr.ca (Alan Whitton)
Subject: Re: GIANTS - Ray Handley has no class
Reply-To: awhitton@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:43:11 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Nov17.163023@samadams.inmet>, johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe) writes:
|> even if handley had called this play, i wouldn't have blamed him.  the
|> giants fans have been riding him hard.  why incur their wrath?  they booed
|> him for calling a kneel-down play on first down.  why not get the stupid
|> giants fans on your side by doing something as simple as calling a real
|> running play?  if you don't score, the fans at least don't boo, and if you
|> do, then you get a few of the stupid fans off of your back.

Careful now! Remember back in the 70's, the infamous Joe Pisarcik hand off
that cost the Giants the game... Simple running plays can get "complicated"
quickly :-)

A Giants fan, and neutral on Handley.

Cheers,
Alan Whitton
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From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:09:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.065747.7786@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In my opinion, these are the NFC playoff losers better than the AFC champs
>(i.e. that can beat the AFC champs at a neutral site):
>
>84: --
>85: Giants 
>86: Redskins, 49ers
>87: Vikings, Saints, 49ers
>88: Vikings
>89: Rams, Giants
>90: 49ers
>91: --
>
>Notice the Bears are missing in the list. Even though they have been a
>playoff fixture, they have never had McMahon healthy except in one year.
>With Fuller, Flutie, or an injured McMahon at the helm, I don't think they
>could have beaten any AFC team.
>
>Of course, these are the AFC playoff losers better than the NFC champs:
>
>84: --
>85: --
>86: --
>87: --
>88: --
>89: --
>90: --
As long as we're playing "what if", put the Bills here.  If you disagree,
please insert an explanation for why a missed field goal proved that the
Giants were a superior team.  Note:  I was rooting for the Giants in both
the NFC Championship and the Superbowl, and I think they should have lost
both, and were certainly not the "better" team.  However, they were the
champions.  If you REALLY want to argue about such things, please post an
article to rec.sport.baseball claiming that the '89 Dodgers were a vastly
superior team to the A's of the same year, due to their 4-1 WS triumph. B-)
>91: --
>
>>I count two, maybe 3 non-blowout NFC championship games going back to '84, 
>>and surprise, surprise, two close SuperBowl games (`88 and `90).  
-- 
Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
From: v066pwk9@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (BRUCE YAEGER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills 3-0 against NFC...Saints are next
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Well the Bills won 41-14 in a game that was over before
the first quarter ended.  Over 300 yards rushing is awefully
good.  Now the Bills can catch the 49'ers for best offense
after they play the colts.  Boy does Deion Sanders have no
class.

With wins against the 49'ers, rams, and the falcons, only
the Saints remain to beaten.  It should be an interesting
game.  If the Saints lose tonight, then I would have to
believe that the Bills will win the game against them.

I think that Washington will win tonight since the Eagles
have beaten the Giants.  Washington needs the win more
than the Saints.  It should be a very close game.  Could
very well be decided by the kickers Lohmiller and Anderson.

project Pasadena: Buffalo Bills defeat Dallas Cowboys 35-24

Bruce, a Bills fan. 
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From: pagel@sharebase.com (Tom Pagel)
Subject: BAY AREA SPORTS BARS
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:54:39 GMT

bay area football fans:

i'm looking for a good sports bar to watch the packer/bear game
this weekend.  i need a place that will be showing ALL the games
so i can be sure that they will have my game on.

i'm aware of rickey's in san leandro, but i was wondering what 
other ones are around.  compared to other parts of the country, 
i have noticed a severe lack of sports bars in this area, at least
in the berkeley area where i live.

so please email or post your favorite sports bars.

since the packer bar i used to frequent (pudley's in redwood city)
went out of business, i need a new place to watch the games.

what's in SF?  marin co.?  contra costa?  alameda?

if there's a decent response, i'll post the results.

--
tom pagel		pagel@cheesehead.sharebase.com
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC TEAMS STINK
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov14.185424.6075@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes...
>In article <1992Nov14.140033.1742@bnr.ca> reams@bnr.ca writes:

>>IMHO, its pendulum-parity. AFC dominance will return, someday. IF I recall
>>correctly, Dallas' great years (70's) were during a period of AFC 
>>dominance. Dallas - like BUffalo now - was the odd man out in an
>>under-perfoming conference. 

>But even Dallas managed a couple of wins in the Big Dance, and their losses
>against the Steelers weren't the sort of routs that we've become used
>to seeing.  The past 11 years have been so totally NFC-dominant that none 
>of the AFC powers du jour have even showed up, let alone contended in it.

New York Giants 20, Buffalo Bills 19

Right...not even a contest.  The Giants destroyed them.  In fact, Norwood was
just damn *scared*, and that's why he couldn't win the game for the Bills.

>This thread of NFC superiority keeps popping up.  I don't know whether
>it's resolvable, but a few points seem undeniable:

>o the best of the NFC is clearly superior to what the AFC offers.  As
>  evidence, consider the average margins of victory in the Big Dance.

As evidence:

	NFC East:  0-5
	
Buffalo 34, San Francisco 31		ROAD WIN AFC
Houston 17, Minnesota 13		ROAD WIN AFC
Philadelphia 30, Denver 0		HOME WIN NFC
Washington 34, Denver 3			HOME WIN NFC
Kansas City 24, Philadelphia 17		HOME WIN AFC
Kansas City 35, Washington 16		HOME WIN AFC
Dallas 17, Kansas City 10		HOME WIN NFC

AFC 4, NFC 3.

AFC Home 2-0.  Road, 2-3.

>o over the past decade, the best handful of teams has been mostly those
>  from the NFC (Niners, Deadskins, Giants, etc.)

Buffalo Bills.  Denver Broncos.  Teams that actually managed to *do* something
the year afterward (no offense intended to the Niners.)  The Giants were a
disgrace as "defending world champions."  The Redskins are on their way.

>o this year, at least, the worst teams are in the AFC.  New England
>  and Seattle are at the bottom of the pack.

Unarguable.  But even so, Week 11 of the 1992 NFL season will show:

	AFC 4, NFC 0

	NFC EAST:  0-5


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That's my two cents.  Now go buy a clue.

					---Chet Zeshonski
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From: crichar@eskimo.com (Craig Richardson "who was... bizarre")
Subject: 1991 Rosters needed...
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:17:32 GMT

As the subject indicates, I have a need for the 1991 rosters.  I have the
1992 pre-season rosters, but I need to adjust for player movement between
seasons.  So if anyone out there has a copy online, please e-mail it to me.

Thanks in advance,
--Craig

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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JETS FUCKING AWFUL
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov23.114259.4504@spcvxb.spc.edu> 5checki_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>I cannot believe how God Awful the New York Jets are.  They just played so 
>shitty yesterday that there are no answers.  I've just about conceded this 
>season, as they must take a look at who will fill their future positions. Give 
I dunno, it seems to be something with the organization in general.  I thought
that Coslet really had them moving in the right direction last year and that 
even with a new QB, they could've been contenders to go deep into the playoffs
this year but ...  Management seems messed up (picking Blair Thomas over
Emmitt Smith, Ken O'Brien over Dan MArino, etc.)

>Coslet a chance- The Jets are just plain awful.  Why not just get a decent 
>defensive lineman with one of their top picks.  If they get line play, there 
>may be some hope.  

The loss of Lageman really seems to hurt them here.  He made everyone else on
the team work harder but with his injury, they seem to have lapsed back to
their old ways.

>However, with a schedule full of teams heading to the 
>playoffs, I cannot envision them doing any better than 4-12.  

Yup.  I think Coslet is gonna be a scapegoat.  They really have discipline
problems (I bet the O line has given up more yards on penalties than any
other NFL team).

>As for Scott 
>Zolak, he is a mother fucking punk whom I hope dies in an auto accident.  

Hey, hey none of that.

>Any 
>Fucking Knucklehead can hand off the ball.  The Patriots were running the ball

Yeah, Jon Vaugh had 100 yards rushing.  The Jets D couldn't do anything right.


>and Lampley and Rashad were making this asshole out to be the second coming of 
>Jesus Christ.  Wait til Zolak plays a real team- He'll Die!!!!!!!!!
>

Me, personally, I like the guy.  The Pats were in a deep hole and he seemed to
have dug them out.  The Pats played a good game, the Jets didn't.


>		BILLS      SUCK		DOLPHINS SUCK
>		COLTS   SUCK         	PATRIOTS SUCK
>

Touchy aren't we??

>
>			WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR ASSHOLES- WE'LL FUCK YOU UP

only if they get someone who can DISCIPLINE them!


satish nair
go giants
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From: Stephen I Miller <similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Browns & Belichick
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:05:31 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

What is this idiot trying to do to the Browns?  I have been a Belichick 
supporter, even though I feel he has pulled some unwise moves, but today 
against the Vikings takes the cake.  Why would anyone pull Tomczak, who was 
winning the game and having a good game, and put in Philcox, who hadn't played 
in a while anyway.  And when Philcox threw the interception that eventually 
cost the Browns the game, why not at least put Tomczak back in and give them a 
chance to try a comeback.  I think that Belichick has finally fliped out with 
STUPID calls like that.  If he wanted to throw the game he couldn't have played
it better.  I haven't been a fan of Art Modell but I hope he verbally rips the 
shit out of Belichick this week.


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