From: wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIME EXPO '93
Date: 28 Aug 1992 17:30:07 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <37276@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>In article <l9ar8oINN1dl@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ingalz@cji.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>>In article 37105@sdcc12.ucsd.edu, rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:

>>truce.  Notice that Greg's post stated the Bay Area, which can include the Santa 
>>Clara Convention Center and the adjoining Westin Hotel as well.  Personally, I think 
>>Santa Clara is a much better location since it is larger, brand new, has enormus 
>>accomodations including a large theater, plus front row seats to the largest 
>>fireworks show in the Bay Area.  You wouldn't be caught dead meandering out of the 
>>Oakland Parc Hotel after dark (unless you want to be a drive-by target); even Burger
>>King closes before 7pm.  

Boy does this sound like a person who's never been to Oakland and all he 
knows about Oakland is from the tube.  Charles, first of all there haven't
been drive by shootings in front of the Parc Oakland, second of all don't
you think it's really irresponsible to make claims lumping the good parts
of Oakland with the bad?  Oakland is a big place.  Just like San Jose.  As
a native of San Jose there are places in San Jose I wouldn't go near because
if I do I have an increased chance of being knifed, shot, or both.  There
are places in Oakland I wouldn't go in because the area is rampid with 
violence.  The funny thing is you have to go out of your way to get there,
or if you don't know the area, wander in there by accident, all of it by
driving.  San Francisco is the same way, does that make San Francisco a bad
place for convention?  Does it rule out San Jose?  Certainly not.  Having
grown up in San Jose and having had to go to school in Berkeley and traversed
by accident to ugly spots in Oakland, San Francisco, I am familiar with the
crime in these cities.  Having had to bus home from my High School everyday
in San Jose I have learned to fear certain parts of San Jose.  A few years
back a friend of mine was attacked near Great America, but I don't hold that
against the area.  I would still like to go near Great America if I could,
but like in every major city you have to be careful.  I know a friend of
mine who was shot at in San Francisco.  Does it make San Francisco a horribly
dangerous place?  The first thing I asked was where he was in San Francisco.
After he told me I wasn't too surprised.  

>Hmm, good point.  I hadn't thought of that.  Come to think about it,
>food options around the Oakland Conv. Center are remarkably sparse,

And the food options around Great America aren't?  Excuse me, but the
location of the Westin is in the middle of nowhere.  No car, no nothing.
If you don't have a car, you're either walking for a long time, or
not eating outside the hotel.  I have never had a problem finding food
places around Oakland, probably because I ate in Chinatown.

>but then I guess that's what BART is for.  And having never been to
>the Santa Clara CC, I could not suggest that.  However, I still stand
>by my point that compared to the Red Lion, the *internal* facilities
>are much better.  Larger possibilities for the Dealers' area plus the
>option of both Conv. Center facilities and hotel facilities.

The point I want to make is this.  All the possibilities should be left
open.  Irresponsible remarks unfairly defaming an entire city is wrong
and unless you have a intimate familiarity with the city, please don't
go around defaming the city.  You're not doing yourself any credit, or
making the task of selecting a final hotel any easier.

So, unless you really know the city you're defaming PLEASE don't.

Sigh.

Albert


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