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From: tstader@aol.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *146.52 WB1GOF signs in Massachusett
Date: 13 Sep 1992 15:59:12 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Bill (bill@platypus.uofs.edu) wrote:
> I have been following this debate with considerable interest. I 
> also think it is a good idea, but what I have often wondered 
> was why no one petitioned the FCC to create a simple service 
> (or maybe even make it a part of Part 97) that set up a set of 
> simplex frequencies just outside the various VHF/UHF bands and 
> designated this for contact between local emergency services 
> and hams.  As MARS has proven, the gear can handle it and so 
> can the operators.  The advantage to the emergency services is 
> the frequencies will be specified and the same everywhere 
> making it relatively easy to get equipment. Making Commercialy 
> manufactured HAM gear acceptable would also keep the cost of 
> offering the service low enough that Comm-Centers would be 
> likely to participate.

Bill.... I think that is a great idea! What is above and below the 2 meter
ham band but government services, right? The MARS bands? I know here in MA
there are Army, CAP and Air Force MARS repeaters directly adjacent to the 2
meter band... maybe some of the CAP and MARS types can enlighten us.... you
all (I am not going to say guys!!!) have had probably been somewhat involved
with setting up comms in these bands.... what are the chances? Is it
practical to think we could ask for a frequency in these bands?

I really do not want to even think about reserving a amateur radio frequency
EXCLUSIVELY for emergency calls! But it would be nice to have a "national"
emergency calling frequency where we know there will be monitoring on a
regular basis.

73 for now....
Terry-KA8SCP, America Online Ham Radio Club Host
Internet: tstader@aol.com or tstader@attmail.com
Packet: KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM or
ka8scp@ka8scp.ampr.org [44.56.4.82]
From: asqp-nbf@zama-emh1.army.mil (ASQP-NBF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Indiana University
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:52:23 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Hello net, I need the Callsign for the Indiana University club station.
Also the callsign for the packet BBS if they use packet.
My daughter is attending the university, she is a ham KC4EOK but,
needs some encouragement.
Thanks

de Roland 7J1AKI/WF4P
From: Lee.Laird@f7009.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Lee Laird)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: * SpaceNews  * (back issues)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 14:16:00

 >>                              =========
 >>                              SpaceNews
 >>                              =========

 >   Does anyone out there have an archive of the back
 > issues of SpaceNews?

yes i carry them from back to the first of last year .. the file is spacxxx.lzh, where xxxx is the date of the bulletin.

you can download from my bbs by loggin in on the guest account.    number is (214) 226-1181 (node 1) ds/hst, or 2400 baud number is (214) 226-1182 (node 2)

at the full name prompt, type:   Guest;guest

lee - wa5eha
ham distriubtion net file echo coordinator

 * Origin: Com Port 1 DFW Amateur Radio BBS (214) 226-1181 (1:124/7009)
From: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How do you count Germany for DXCC?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:07:31 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm a little unclear about how you count Germany for the purposes of
DXCC.  I don't have the rules with me today but it says something to
the effect that before some date (September 1972?) East and West
Germany counted as the same country.  After that date up until
German Reunification, East and West Germany counted as seperate
countries.  Now that count as the same country again.

The question is how many times can I get credit for working Germany?

Four times?  (Once before 1972, twice between 1972 and reunification,
              and once now).

Three times? (Once for unified Germany and once for East and West
              Germany)

Two times?   (Once for East and West Germany, no extra credit for
              unified Germany)

I believe I have QSL cards for all of these German eras and I need
to know how to apply them to DXCC credit.

Also, what was special about that date in September 1972 that they
started counting East and West Germany as separate countries?

Chuck

Charles H. Chapman  (GTRI/MATD)             (404) 528-7588
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!matd!cchapman
Internet: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, wpns@miki.pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.192708.22577@news.acns.nwu.edu> rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan) writes:
>>
>1) 9913 cable is of no practical use for HF in terms of attenuation.
>RG-8 is nearly as good (0.3 dB more attenuation per 100 feet), costs a
>_lot_ less, is more flexible, and is more weatherproof with PL-259
>connectors.  9913 is only useful in 'real' VHF and UHF work, above say
>30 MHz.

I can imagine special cases where 9913 might make sense at HF.  Say your
antenna is located 1000 feet from the transmitter (1000 ft tower?).
Then the 9913 would make a 3 dB difference.  That can be important
in a pileup.

(Actually, in that case, I think I would use open-wire feed or TV
twin lead and figure out how to match it at both ends.)

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (john s roberts)
Subject: Re: Kenwood TH78A Charging HELP!
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:42:36 GMT

In <14968@mindlink.bc.ca> George_Lin@mindlink.bc.ca (George Lin) writes:

>> john s roberts writes:
>> 
>> My question: does the 12v cigarette adapter in anyway charge
>> the battery.  I hope that it doesn't because then I have
>> to make sure I don't use it unless the battery is completely
>> dead and when I do use it make sure it charges for the full
>> 12-15 hours.  What is going on here?


>The 12V cigarette adapter charges the battery the same way the external adapter
>does (should seem fairly logical, both plug into the same place on the radio).

>There isn't too much harm in using a 12V DC source as long as you are not
>repeatidly charging the batter between two points (ie. 1/4 full to 1/2 full
>over and over again).

>Go ahead and use the 12V adapter.
> -------------------------------------------
>| George Lin                  | 145.270 MHz |
>| George_Lin@mindlink.bc.ca   |   VE7FKU    |
> -------------------------------------------

So I have the ability to charge my radio in the car or at home?  Does the
battery charge when I operate the radio with either power supply attached?
In the car I use the radio while the 12v adapter is attached and at home
sometimes I listen with the BC-14 charger attached.  Am I charging the
battery at the same time?  Is this okay?

Thanks!

John
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: stan@service.West.Sun.COM (Stan Galonski [Strategic Account Manager])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rancho Cucamonga Hamfest
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:03:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: regional
Reply-To: stan@service.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: service.west.sun.com
Keywords: Southern California Hamfest


	Anyone know the new location for the Hamfest that used to be held
	a General Dynamics in Rancho Cucamonga on the 2nd Saturday of the
	month??? Also what is the cost for a selling space? Thanks

	Stan
	KB6RQZ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: 50/144 dual bander.  WAS:  American manufacturers of ham gear.
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:58:31 GMT


In article <9209111424.AA01758@ucsd.edu>  
William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes:
> >I keep thinking that what the market needs is a HF rig for $400. I  
don't
> >need all the bell and whistles that the overpriced HF rigs have. I am
> >using a old Swan 700CX with excellent results. What I would like to see
> 
> a $400 retail rig could only have $100-$150 parts in it for it to be 
> commercially feasable.
> 
> unless you don't expect the sales price to include R&D, customer support  
etc.

==========================================================
Sorry to use this thread to introduce a related one, but...

I wonder what the market would be for a dual band rig pairing 2 meters and  
6 meters.  Just like many years ago when the (now traditional) Techs came  
along and very adequately populated the 6-m band, there are many of the  
new techs (both nocode and traditional) who are interested in six meters,  
at least in these parts.

Japanese radio manufacturers are not filling this need, if indeed there is  
one.  

It would be quite risky for ANY company to stick its neck out on a venture  
like this, but it could be a super coup.

tnx es 73 de Jack, K9CUN
From: POLS0@AIS.UCLA.EDU (Linda Stocks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Sexist Statement
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:48:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsd.9209101447.AA04093
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


I really wasn't going to get into this--I have very little
sympathy for "politically correct" language. But being a
female in a hobby that is predominantly male, I find many
humorous situations and there is nothing I like better than
a good story.  As President of the San Fernando Valley ARC,
I have put a number into our club newsletter.

I remember one time when I working Europeans during one
of the contests and a ham from Belgium wanted to say
something complementary (at least I took it as a complement)
and he told me that I had "a great signal for a YL."

My daughter (who is a ham) was on the committee to plan a
ham convention in the Bay area.  She listened to the discussion
of the plans for the "spouses' program" and "innocently" commented
that she didn't think her husband (who is not a ham) would be
very interested in that.  (He took care of the kids so she
could enjoy the sessions.)

Once when I was making a cw contact, I answered a station with
my call and he replied "thanks, OM for coming back to me" and
when I said that my name was Linda, his next question was
"Are you married?"

And once, when we were asked to put up a display on ham radio
as part of an emergency preparedness exhibit at our church,
someone looking at the display of equipment asked me if that
was my husband's keyer.  I replied that it was mine (it was
an anniversary present one year), but that I let him use
it whenever he wanted. I guess I shouldn't have said that--
but he did come to a class we taught and now has his technician
license.

I love the hobby and the people we've met though it. I refuse
to take myself (or anyone else) too seriously and maybe I don't
recognize when I'm being put down but I don't think it happens
very often and if it does I don't worry about it. I certainly
don't take offense. (By the way, I also cook, sew, knit, quilt,
etc.)

   Linda Stocks, AA6MR              pols0@ais.ucla.edu
     xyl of AA6MQ                   aa6mr@wb6wfh#soca.ca.usa

  If there's light at the end of the tunnel,
  it's time to order more tunnel.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Rick Spanbauer)
Subject: W2A PLL synthesizer schematic missing?
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:10:42 GMT


I was looking over the schematic included with my W2A recently, and
it seems to have omitted the PLL synthesizer section.  Was the synthesizer
schematic included on a separate sheet that I didn't receive with
the unit?

                                        Rick Spanbauer
                                        SUNY/Stony Brook
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Sexist Statement
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:24:06 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

[This is directed not at Jim, whose use of the phrase "you guys" I noticed
but didn't feel worth commenting on, but at those who've blown the
discussion up into a larger issue.]

Well, it's certainly interesting to see all the pontificating on this
subject from people who don't have the faintest idea what it feels like
to be a woman in an overwhelmingly male hobby.

It's easy to wave your hands and shout, "Thought police! Thought police!"
Let's see whether you have the guts to examine your own attitudes and
behavior, along with those of your fellow male hams.

Stop and think how you'd like it if, like Sharon, you showed up to help put
up a tower and were asked to cook food for the other workers. Not that 
feeding the workers isn't important, but why should someone assume just
because of your appearance that cooking is the most important skill you have
to offer?

Or try wandering around an amateur radio convention and having someone
assume you're looking for the cosmetics demonstration. Or, while you're
filling up the car at a gas station, having someone notice your callsign
plates and say, "Oh, is your husband a ham?"

Attitudes like this aren't preventing women from participating in amateur
radio. (Although there may be more egregious examples I don't know about 
that are.) But they sure wear one down. 

Nobody's censoring you, for heaven's sake. We're just suggesting that
you try to become aware of ways in which you make unfair assumptions
about other people's interests and abilities based solely on the fact
that they're women. Sure, it's difficult and it takes a long time. But
it takes a lot longer if you don't even try.


Patty


-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Kenwood Financial Health?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 00:03:58 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

All of the postings concerning Kenwood's execrable reputation for
service made me wonder what the company's financial health is.
My experience is that poor service often reflects a bad financial
situation.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
RE Drug Warriors who enjoy making a "good" bust: I'm sure the Salem
Witch Hunters enjoyed their law enforcement achievements too.
From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:18:31 GMT
Subject: Re: 2400 bps,1200 baud,DSP(was New Packeteer Frustration)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

> Hey, here's a way to pick that nit:  TV is analog in the horizontal
> dimension, digital in the vertical dimension.


Nope; "digital" != "discrete samples."

"Digital" means "represented by digits (numbers)", period.


Bob Myers  KC0EW   Hewlett-Packard Co.      |Opinions expressed here are not
                   User Interface Tech. Div.|those of my employer or any other
myers@fc.hp.com    Fort Collins, Colorado   |sentient life-form on this planet.


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: Re: batteries on concrete
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 19:45:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.152052.8141@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> M.Willis@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Mike Willis) writes:
>Perhaps there is truth in the myth. Concrete floors tend to get cold in winter.
>Lead acid batteries do not work well when cold. Therefore placing a battery on a
>concrete surface outside may cause it to loose capacity. Especially true for
>battery systems not designed for cold weather use.
>
>Mike

Good grief, how cold DO the floors get where you live? Our RV batteries
perform satisfactorily at a known derating down to zero F or below when
we go skiing.

The effect of thermal insulating a battery with a fraction of an inch of
wood would be miniscule.


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: sih@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Shahed Ibne Husain)
Subject: CB (The smallest , the cheapest,though powerful)
Keywords: CB
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:56:16 GMT


Hi! netters,
	I am planning to buy a portable (like walkie-talkies) cb radio.  
Since I have a budgetary problem , I am looking for the chepest cb radio  
available in the usa. Also the cb has to be powerful and smallest in size  
( I really hate those huge ones ). If any of you have any informartion  
regarding the best manufacturer of cb's and their address then please  
e-mail me at "sih@wam.umd.edu" with their address, phone number (800  
number preferable) and their price . My budget is $ 150-200 . I really  
cannot afford to pay a whole lot because I am broke after paying the  
tuition for the fall semester ;(. Also is there any mail order catalog for  
cb radios? Plese let me know that too (i.e. how to get my adress listed on  
the mailing list).
 
	Thank you all.

Shahed.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: *146.52 WB1GOF signs in Massachusetts (long, but good!)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:17:12 GMT

Personally, I think the WB1GOF setup via the police dispatch is great.  But
it's unlikely that many dispatch centers will be as enlightened.

I've got a question that I've been meaning to ask for quite a while.  I
know several people that travel frequently and ask me about emergency
communications.  In most areas CB is unreliable, and it's not feasable
that everyone who drives get an amateur license.  That leaves having a
police radio (my choice for now, but easy since I'm a volunteer with the
Sheriff's department and I have a unit ID and authorization to use a 
particular frequency), GMRS (sparce coverage in most areas, unknown PLs
in other areas, and the uncertainty if anyone's monitoring), and finally
cellular.

I encourage cellular, but it's pretty pricey here.  Given how inexpensive
the phones are, they'd seem ideal, though.  It's the monthly airtime that's
a killer.  So suppose someone wanted a celtel for emergency use only.  I
know the cell companies are supposed to allow 911 calls for free to ALL
celtel users (regardless of roam status and which celtel company the user
subscribes to).  My question is this:  If I go out and buy a cellular phone,
and don't have it "activated", would it be usable on the various cellular
servies for 911 calls only?  Or must it be activated for some service?
I know several people that would buy celphones if they could use them
for 911 and not have to pay monthly fees.  Is this at all possible?

-Kirk J. Smith
Who's FINALLY enrolling in a ham class to help with my motivation, and
what the heck, I'll even learn code (instead of my original plan to do
codeless on my own)

--
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     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:15507 rec.radio.swap:2436
From: larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:03:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: none

In article <randall.716509968@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

->This does not add up to 100 because most checks had
->multiple suspicion elements.  ALL of the 200 bad checks
->had at least one of the above problems, and in almost
->all cases, at least two.

  How many of the good checks had at least one of these "problems"?

	Alan
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *146.52 WB1GOF signs in Massachusetts (long, but good!)
Date: 7 Sep 1992 03:28:52 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <7915@public.BTR.COM> grady@btr.BTR.COM (Grady Ward  grady@btr.com) writes:
>I think the 911 system is a terrific counterexample to your first statement,
>as is the growth of the cellular and fiber-optic technologies, deregulated
>telephony and so on.

Huh?? What does 911 have to do with overloaded radio communications? That
doesn't help one tiny little bit with communicating with other units in the
field. Neither does cellular, fiber optics, etcetera etcetera ad nauseam.

>With your second point about bleating about ARE/RACES (I prefer Patty
>Winter's "carping" image of a great piebald koi dripping and gaping at about
>3 hz over a computer keyboard), I will certainly be helping out my neighbors
>with outgoing health and welfare messages as an *individual* with my
>IC-735 and random-wire tuner.

Ok, fine. You're of course free to help out any way you can, and dealing
with outgoing H&W traffic is a Good Thing. Just don't get in the way of folks
who are helping in other ways.

>_Individual_ Amateurs are a great resource, but we do not need the Iambic Keystone 
>Kops ARES/RACES theater.  If you want to help in emergency communications,
>get involved with supporting your local police, fire, or EMT _professionals_.

Free clue: The EMT-P in my signature stands for paramedic. I _am_ a
professional (even though I don't get paid money for serving as a paramedic).

The City of League City, including specifically the League City Volunteer EMS,
specifically includes ARES/RACES as an integral part of its emergency
communications plan. (Yes, this is an official statement in my capacity as
Communications Officer.) You may not need ARES or RACES, but we most assuredly
do. In League City, supporting ARES/RACES _is_ supporting your local police,
fire, and AMS professionals. I'm sure that League City is not alone.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Keep in mind that Amateur Radio As We Know It Today will cease to exist
            at midnight tonight." -- Dave Newkirk, WJ1Z
From: jennings@abb.COM (UPAC01::JENNINGS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How can I subscribe?
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:46:21 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Hello,
How can I subscribe to info-hams?

Tom Jennings, KV2X
jennings@abb.com
From: MOSIER@iris.uncg.EDU (Steve Mosier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Topic
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:19:17 -0700
Organization: University of NC at Greensboro
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I realize that we have not yet come even close to exhausting the rich lore 
of technical, socio-economic, and cultural data on PL-259's and batteries on 
concrete.  Yet, in fact, another 3 or 4 weeks of discussion may indeed close 
out these subjects, and I fear that we may then be left with an intellectual
void.  Thus, in the public interest, I propose that we open discussion on
#6 flat washers.  (My hope is that we can ascertain how various metallurgical 
treatments affect the generation of magnetic micro-fields through dissimilar 
metal contact and how these fields might affect junction performance in some 
mosfet receiver front ends.)

steve-W3GRG

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