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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel Re-releases: Birdy & More
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 20:05:48 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics
Distribution: usa

buckmr@vccnw02.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:

>> I found a DOMESTIC release of _Birdy_ in my local CD shop (Plan 9) on
>> Friday, and the proprietor tells me there's some sort of recombination
>> of "Rainy Windshield" and "Fingernails" on a single compact disk, due
>> out about a week or so before the release of _Us_. 
>
> Huh? US is being released Sept 29th in the USA. BIRDY has been out for
> at least three weeks [I saw it domestically in LA then] 

Yes, but _Peter Gabriel Revisisted_ is due out a week or two before
_Us,_ as Eliot pointed out.  (_Revisited_ doesn't contain anything that's
not found on the first two solo albums -- it's strictly a cheap cash-in
move.)

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: CDC was: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs
From: rocker@desire.wright.edu
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:04:30 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Sep6.222141.19775@ntg.com>, dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) writes:
> Like Noteworthy, they have their catalog available in electronic form
> and accept orders via modem.  Their system is somewhat different than
> Noteworthy's, though.  Noteworthy's catalog is downloaded to your PC;
> you look up the discs you want in an offline-search process, generate an
> order, and then dial up and upload the order.  CDC's ordering system is
> an on-line one, and you must work your way through their menus to select
> the discs that you want.  You can download their catalog to your PC
> (it's in the form of a DOS self-extracting archive) and expand and
> search it off-line, if you wish.
> 

	Would someone please put these files somewher FTPable???

rock hard

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: One Way Records quality (was Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues)
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:20:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.004450.6007@panix.com> schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:
>In article <13267@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>If anybody has heard both the One-Way and the Japanese pressings, please
>>comment about relative sound quality.
>>
>>I never noticed the edits in Rajah Khan or At the Harbor, but the edit
>>in Ashes Are Burning still burns me up.  I have been about to drop the
>>bucks for the Japanese release but can be talked out of it with a few
>>favorable comments on this new release.
>
>In my opinion the sound is superior to the Capitol "In The Beginning"
>compilation. I'm willing to bet the Japanese pressings are better.
>Based simply on the level of tape noise I'd bet the One Way pressings
>are made from decent tapes, but later generation masters than the
>Japanese verisons (at 2.5 times the price). I don't have the Japanese
>pressings of these two CD's so I can't make a =direct= comparison.
>
>I'm also trying to decide whether I hear distortion in the bass on
>Carpet Of The Sun ... and, if so, where it was introduced (studio,
>intermediate generation analog tape, or CD mastering). I'm not =sure=
>it's there (or perhaps it was always there and I never noticed it).
>Anyone with the One Way pressing of Ashes care to listen real close?

The Capitol "In the Beginning" set sounds a bit flat. This, and the
fact that the set shared the same edits as the like-titled 2 LP
set issued in the late '70's, led people
to suspect that the original master tapes were not used in creating the
CD version. Capitol addressed these suspicions directly and claimed
that the original master tapes WERE used for the "In the Beginning"
set. They later went so far as to include a sticker on the CD package
stating this.

If Capitol is not either mistaken or lying, then any difference between
the Capitol and One Way issues would arise from better transfer and
mastering techniques, not from better tapes. 

dap
-- 
=============================================================================
    David A. Pearlman

Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: UK CD Prices Rise *Again*
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:41:21 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

well, for al and all u.k. buyers who are fed up with the prices...

there's a guy running a net-service for imports.  his username,
 i believe, is angst@cs.ucsd.edu.  name's dave, i think?

anyhow, i've dealt with him before, and quite reliably ,thanks.
 i believe his disc prices are around 19-20$, american?  i don't
 know what he'd charge for postage to the u.k., but i can't imagine
 it being more than $4 per disc, or so, especially if you bought
 two or three.  and, presto!  there's your 12L limit.

i have NO idea why we can get imports in the states at prices
 cheaper than it costs you in the u.k., but there it is.  

- bob gaj
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Noteworthy (was Re: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:17:35 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <5710@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM> ewing@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (David Ewing) writes:

>In <1992Sep3.205944.1@venus.ycc.yale.edu> bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu writes:

>>Does this Noteworthy Music carry classical CD's if so,
>>do you know if they have a good selection?

>Their classical selection is fair.  They have 11 pages of newsprint
>type (approximately 1760 titles).  It's pretty hit or miss as to
>them having an exact recording that I am looking for.

Just to amplify on this, the major problem I have with their classical
offerings is that they're almost completely hopeless at cataloging what
classical titles they do stock.  Their print catalog reads like a traffic
accident, with twenty different ways to get piece/soloist/conductor/
orchestra etc. mapped onto their artists/title database, and they
have yet to add good enough search capabilities to their ROEG software
to allow me to really find something they might have.  They also don't
try to stock all that much; I'd love it if they cleaned up their
database and stocked a little better.  I'll bet their classical
sales would double overnight if they did that, because their prices
are still wonderful.

BTW, Haverstick & Ballyk is a very good source for classical stuff,
and isn't bad on price.  Their number is 1-800-222-6872.

>Their "popular" music (rock, etc) selection is MUCH more impressive.

Very true.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?		- Sandy Denny
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Genesis, 3 Sides Live
Keywords: Wanted - Rush, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Chicago
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:43:29 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)

knight@rtsg.mot.com (Paul E. Knight) writes:
>
>Genesis:  3 Sides Live

By the way, there's a British edition with a "fourth side" of
"Seconds Out" out-takes rather than the normal studio stuff.

Personally, I wish that they had put all three live sides onto a
single CD and the disposable fourth side into a future boxed set.

gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare				
> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds)
Subject: Interesting twist to BMG club
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 03:48:33 GMT

Well, I cancelled my BMG membership a couple days ago, because I'd gotten
tired of looking through the tiny catalogs and hadn't ordered anything in
months.  Today I got a call from them, offering to sign me up for a new
club, with less frequent mailings (once every 5 weeks), and bigger catalogs.
The club is a steady "buy one, get one free", without all the variants of
the regular club (that all work out about the same, but are more confusing).
I said I'd give it a try...

        - David Hinds
          dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu
From: murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: INXS vs. Jewel Box (was Re: INXS New Album?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:00:26 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Farallon Computing

In article <1992Sep10.125022.20534@linus.mitre.org>,
wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) wrote:

>     I've heard from Tower Records employees in both Austin, TX and Vienna,
>     VA that _Welcome to Wherever You Are_ will not only not be sold by Tower 
>     in a Jewel Box, but will not even be marketed by the manufacturer in a
>     Jewel Box AT ALL!  Sorry.


Tower told me the same thing about U2's Achtung Baby.  When I spotted a
Jewel Box version of Achtung Baby in Rough Trade in San Francisco, I
snapped it up, even though I'm not a big U2 fan.  I did it to protest the
cheapo-pak. 

I make a practice of informing people about to purchase the cheapo-pak
version of Achtung Baby that a Jewel Box version IS available.

BTW, I've quite enjoyed Achtung Baby.
______________________________________________________________________________
Murat N. Konar
Sound Software Engineer (NOT!)
Farallon Computing, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: pstodd@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Paul Stoddard x5559)
Subject: Re: Superstitions about the Eco-Pak  (was digi-crap)
Reply-To: pstodd@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Paul Stoddard x5559)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:48:00 GMT

I have to respond to this. The eco-pack is crap; pure, unadulterated
crap. There is no reason for it to exist. The jewel box provided every-
thing that was needed for CD protection and storage. The stupid Ameri-
can record retailers demanded the long box so that they wouldn't have
to refixture their stores for jewel boxes. The greedy American record
manufacturers were only too happy to oblige since this kept their for-
mer LP jacket plants in operation. The whole eco-pack fiasco is nothing
but WEA's attempt to keep its longbox plant going. And, by the way,
there is nothing "eco" about the eco-pack: more natural resources are
consumed in the manufacture of one of these pieces of crap than for
the jewel box. The eco-pack IS flimsy: it will tear, fray, fade, and
separate over time regardless of how much care you take of it. You will
end up buying a jewel box to store any CD purchased in a crap-pack.

To those of you who like the crap packs, all I can say is: go ahead,
buy them; show the big corporations like WEA just how easily you can be
suckered with an inferior product. Maybe next they'll do something to
the composition of the CD itself so that it deteriorates over time just
like the crap pack. Then, you'll have no one to blame but yourselves,
and I'll be among the first to say: I told you so.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Waltham, MA 02154 (617)290-0710 x5559, INTERNET: ...!mit-eddie!ileaf!pstodd
Disclaimer: All thoughts and opinions expressed are my own.
From: toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Peter Gabriel Re-releases:  Birdy & More
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:50:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

For those of you (like myself) who have long bemoaned the fact that Peter
Gabriel's soundtrack to Alan Parker's _Birdy_ was only available on CD as an
import, here's heartening news.  Geffen has apparently started rereleasing
selected portions of the Gabriel catalog.  I found a DOMESTIC release of
_Birdy_ in my local CD shop (Plan 9) on Friday, and the proprietor tells me
there's some sort of recombination of "Rainy Windshield" and "Fingernails"
on a single compact disk, due out about a week or so before the release of
_Us_.

As I had only heard _Birdy_ on a third- or fourth-generation dub, the opening
sounds from the CD were, let us say, stunning.

This may only be a cynical marketing move, but hey--with results like this,
I'll take cynicism any day :).  (Besides, the CD only cost me $12.)

tim jarrett (toj8j@fermi.clas.virginia.edu)
From: jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: DCC vs. MiniDisc
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:13:38 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BuBGKC.12t@csc.liv.ac.uk> rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) writes:

>> The forthcoming DCC? This is a possibility.

>Pre-recorded DCC will be marketed AT THE SAME PRICE as CDs in the UK ! This is
>why Mark Knopfler just pulled out Dire Straits from the DCC launch (along with
>the reduced royalty rate fiasco). BTW, only the ill-informed would buy DCC over
>Sony's Mini Disk, because DCC has only one advantage over Mini Disk - the deck
>can play old audio cassette tapes. HOWEVER, the deck cannot RECORD on old
>cassette tapes, so the backwards compatibility issue is a joke. I'd recommend
>the public to boycott DCC until the price comes down and the decks can record
>on old audio cassette tapes. If this leaves the format floundering, then so
>be it.

Not only that, but (IMHO) DCC still has a *major* flaw inherent in *any*
tape technology!  The tape is read by magnetic heads rubbing against some
magnetized tape!
After X plays, the tape *will* wear out.  CDs, MiniDisks (and presumably
other recordable CD formats) *don't* have this problem because the coded
information is never touched and thus, never degraded. 

My main gripe with recordable CD tech at this point is that (so far) it
is only Write-Once-Read-Many.  Granted, a disk that you can record yourself
is better than one you can't, but wouldn't one that you can record over and
over be better than one you can only record on once???

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Gold Master Discs?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:09:34 GMT

In <3930029@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce) writes:

>Can some kind person explain if the Gold Master Discs have a better sound
>quality than the run-o-the-mill regular cd's.  They certain cost more and
>I believe they are 24K gold plated.  Does improve sound quality?

I've got several of the disks (Blind Faith, Moody Blues - Days of Future
Passed, Pink Floyd - Meddle; Dark Side of the Moon; The Wall, The Who -
Tommy) and they all sound magnificient.  I don't know if the 24k Gold
has anything to do with it, but they do some nice sounding disks made
from "master" tapes. 

Days of Future Passed doesn't sound all that better on 24k, but
Dark Side of the Moon and Meddle are much improved.  The Wall is
about the same and I've never heard the Blind Faith regular CD, so
I can't tell you about it - the same goes for Tommy (BUT - the 
Ultradisc version of Tommy is about the same cost as the regular
CD version - the Ultradisc is on one disc, the regular on two)  

They are worth the price - especially since a local store (Vienna VA)
sells the single disc Ultras for $19.95! (at Tower just down the road
they're $29) 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Donald Fagen and New York Rock & Soul
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:45:18 GMT

The Fagen album was due this month as of last winter  BUT as of today it's
due this February.  This is a quote from the perfectionist Donald Fagen
from a Chicago Tribune interview of August 16, 1992.

Walter Becker is the producer.

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: 1987 on CD?? + Orb Q's
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 00:55:58 GMT
Organization: Lollapalooza Phoenix Eastern Mosh Pit Smoke-Mask Crew

jjyyjj@mixcom.com (Thomas Mueller) writes:

> I saw [the Jams'] "1987" on CD yesterday, marked "Rare Fan Club Only
> Release" (cough) and was wondering if anyone else has bought this CD,
> who may be behind releasing it, what the sound quality is like, and if
> it is truly worth the US$20 they wanted for it. 

The disc is mastered from a clean vinyl copy -- you can tell it's from an
LP, but the surface noise is minimal and the sound's fine.  I'm more than
happy with it, even though they did manage to get the two sides in the
wrong order.

$20 is a perfectly reasonable price, especially considering you'd pay at
least four or five times that much to get it on vinyl.  

> Also, is US$20 too much to pay for the Orb's "Blue Room" release, and...
> could someone give me an idea of what I might expect were I to buy and
> listen to the "Blue Room" and "Ufo" CDs from the Orb? 

_U.F.Orb_ is getting a domestic release in a few weeks and Cliff Tuel says
that the "Blue Room" single's coming out here as well.  You *might* want
to wait on them, under those circumstances.  (I paid around $20 for the
two singles and didn't wince *too* much. :-) 

"Too much to pay" is a funny concept.  Only you can really say whether
something is worth what you paid for it.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

On drumsmurd nOn drumsmurd nOn drumsmums . . . The Pope!
                                         . . . epoP ehThe Pope!
From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: WANTED! Chris De Burgh!!!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:20:52 GMT

I'm looking to get ANY Chris DeBurgh I can get me grubby little mitts
on...ESPECIALLY his Europe-only releases...anyone able to help?  AS I
understand it, Canada, too, gets all his stuff, so maybe some one there can
help...?  The only CDs I've got are Crusader and Separate Tables single.

ps...any word on when CDB^10 will be released in the USA?

Thanks much...

Bruce
-- 
.sig?  We don' need no steenkin' .sig!

Bruce Anderson: A tradition of Chaos and Disorder since 1967
spock@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (unix)	00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp (VAX)
Don't look at me in that tone of voice!  BSU disclaims me, and I disclaim them.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: sheph@wam.umd.edu (pale blue eyes)
Subject: _Athens, GA - Inside/Out_ on CD?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:31:12 GMT

is the soundtrack to _athens, ga - inside/out_ available on CD?  i have it
on tape, but i'd really like to get it on disc.  i THOUGHT i heard that it
was only available on tape and vinyl, and since i've never seen it on disc,
i'm inclined to believe that's true.  can anyone prove me wrong??

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Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6322 rec.music.misc:22776
From: ewing@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (David Ewing)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Noteworthy (was Re: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs)
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:51:47 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp., Network Products - San Diego

In <1992Sep3.205944.1@venus.ycc.yale.edu> bamn@venus.ycc.yale.edu writes:

>Does this Noteworthy Music carry classical CD's if so,
>do you know if they have a good selection?

Their classical selection is fair.  They have 11 pages of newsprint
type (approximately 1760 titles).  It's pretty hit or miss as to
them having an exact recording that I am looking for.

Their "popular" music (rock, etc) selection is MUCH more impressive.


-- 
*************************************************************************
David A. Ewing                             David.Ewing@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM
From: cm007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (claude erik meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: ELTON JOHN CD BOOTLEGS WANTED!!!!!!!!!(Wembley 6/92 w/Clapton)
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:18:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


If anyone has a bootleg CD of the Elton John / Eric Clapton Concert from
either Wembley Stadium in London, Shea Stadium in  NEW YORK, or Dodger
Stadium in Los Angeles...PLEASE contact me through E-Mail.

I Saw Both New York Shows...I Want the CDS...


Thank You So Much


Claude Meyer
U. Of Rochester

cm007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: silvus@vauxhall.ece.cmu.edu (Gregory Lee Silvus)
Subject: Newport Classics/Flute Force
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:03:12 GMT

In Texas my sister heard a flute quartet called "Flute Force". They
record on the Newport Label. Does anyone have any information about
their availability on CD? *OR* Does anyone have a phone number or
address where the company can be reached? Thanks,
gReg
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6460 alt.rock-n-roll:15761
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Fantastic Baggys
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:21:24 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


Recently there was a thread about the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean.
Anyone into this type of music should definitely check out EMI's
latest release in their Masters Of Rock And Roll series. It's
a much-expanded version of the only US album by the Fantastic
Baggys, called 'Tell Them I'm Surfing'.

Anyone familiar with the later music of Jan & Dean surely has
heard the Baggys, as they did most of the studio back-up during
the later years.

The Baggys were in reality the famous songwriting team of P.F. Sloan
and Steve Barri, who wrote a good handful of the lengendary tunes
of the 1960's. The Baggys were a side project, and they sounded
absolutely incredible. Besides containing a great selection of
original songs and covers of tunes by Jan & Dean, The Rip Chords,
and other popular groups of the time, this CD has awesome audio quality.
It is ADD, remixed from the original multi-track session tapes.

If surf or car music ever interested you, this treasure is well worth
adding to your collection.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd's _The Wall_ gold CD
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:02:06 GMT

ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple) writes:

>I recall hearing that the Mobile Fidelity Ultradisc version
>of Pink Floyd's _The Wall_ was out-of-print.  Is this true?

Yes -- It's true.

>I just saw a few copies (leftover?) in a local CD store
>for $40.99.  Should I buy one (or two)?  If I *do* buy it,
>should I open it and listen to it, or just stash it away
>somewhere?

Leftovers they are.  Do not open them as they will be worth more unopened.

The MSFL gold version is considerred the best master of today.  It is unclear
whether Columbia/Sony will use this or another remaster to replace their
current pressing.