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From: pat@next5036.vm.iastate.edu
Subject: Diggeri doo?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:25:06 GMT


I'm trying to find out how to make a diggeri doo(sorry about the spelling). I  
recently saw one made out of pvc and beeswax.  There were two rings, made of  
beeswax, placed in both ends of the pvc pipe. The problem I'm having is what  
distance apart(I didn't pay very much attention in physics)should I place the  
rings to make the cool noise.  If anybody knows anything about this please  
E-mail me some information.  Thanks!

Patrick
From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: ]The Town South Of Bakersfield
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:22:02 GMT
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning




this name has been used for two (going three) albums of
assorted artists, all new material.

the 3rd volume is supposed to be just about out,
and featured a band called the Helicasters I believe

anybody know what label this stuff is appearing on?
got an address perhaps?  

thanks

(e,mail please!)


-- 
Colm Mulcahy, W2,        |  I post, therefore I exist.  I think.  However,
Hinter Der Grieb 8,      |  "rlogging in" is slow, so I don't read news.
8400 Regensburg,         | 
German Occupied Bavaria  |  But I do read email, so fire away.
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: he can't dance/he can't sing
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr14.062200.8875
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr13.183824.20255@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>In article <1992Apr08.172104.11015@crash.cts.com> jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:

>>Because a number of posters said that "We Can't Dance" was a return
>>in style to the "old" Genesis.  I would really like to see them do
>>something good.  They can do it:  listen to "Duke", "Wind and Wuthering",
>>"Trick of the Tail", "Lamb", "Selling", "Foxtrot", "Nursery", "trespass",
>>and "From Genesis to Revelation".  Why can't they do things of that
>>quality anymore?  Why this change for the worse?  Because they want
>>recognition.  

>Ignore anything before (and including) "Lamb".  Those were (really)
>Peter Gabriel Albums.  I don't think the rest of Genesis did much
>writing for them.  (I could be wrong, but I don't think so).

Wrong.  The other members of the band did a lot of the writing.
Tony Banks, in particular, wrote some of the best songs of that
period.  For proof, go to the history of genesis video.
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:13811 alt.music.alternative:2943
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 17:59:16 EDT
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Who does grunge version of old tune "In the Pines?"
 <1992Apr2.223841.2434@daimi.aau.dk> <1992Apr6.020855.3435@hubcap.clemson.edu>

In article <1992Apr6.020855.3435@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) says:
>
>torsten@daimi.aau.dk (Torsten B. Hagemann) writes:
>
>>It was the australian band named The Triffids. The song is on the album named
>>(surprise) "In the Pines". Recommendable stuff.
>
>Thank you much!  It only took three weeks and two postings to get the answer!
>Pretty good, I'd say.  I also received mail stating that it might be a
>band called Cordelia's Dad, whose specialty is grunged-up folk tunes...
>in case anyone is interested.

I think the Triffids are great, but I'd hardly call their version
of "In The Pines" 'grunge'!
-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: pja@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter J. Angeline)
Subject: Steve Tibbets
Reply-To: pja@cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:33:59 GMT


Does anyone know the tour dates for Steve Tibbets in the near future?  Will he
be in Ohio any time soon?  Thanks for the info.

-pete angeline

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter J. Angeline            ! Laboratory for AI Research (LAIR)
Graduate Research Assistant  ! THE Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio 43210
ARPA: pja@cis.ohio-state.edu ! "Nature is more ingenious than we are."
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14531 alt.rock-n-roll:10213 alt.rap:2191
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rap
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Apr8.142357.9024@wheaton.wheaton.edu> dledelen@wheaton.edu (Daniel Lane Edelen) writes:

>In article <neeri.702569173@iis> neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Ulrich Neeracher) writes:
>>Anybody who lumps all of Rap together shows his ignorance of it. What is the
>>problem with liking both Jethro Tull and Public Enemy ?

>In reply to your comment about my inablility to distinguish Rap, I would have
>to say that at the ripe old age of 29 I do sound like my father. Yes, folks do
>you remember the days when your parents would make comments about all rock
>music sounding the same? Well now I find myself saying that about Rap.

Sure... but didn't your dad sound stupid when he said that? Generalizations
always sound stupid to me.

>Seriously, once you've heard one Rap album you've basically heard them all.
>Rap also suffers from the "any couple of guys with an attitude can record an
>album of rantings about this and that" syndrome. Needless to say, here today,
>gone tomorrow....

How much rap have year heard? How many groups? How many different types of
rap (there are different types you know) I'm not asking you to love rap
but give me a break. You sound like you don't know the first thing about
it.

I don't like metal. So I say, "I don't like metal." I don't try to explain
it beyond that and I don't try to make it sound like I'm the only
intelligent person on the planet by dissing the whole genre.
If you don't like rap... DON'T! But don't bother me with this lame bull
about it all sounding the same. It isn't my fault that you're lyric-deaf.

>If someone wishes to prove to me that Rap is real music then please show me
>where the majority of Rap songs have a transcriptable melody line.

Where'd that come from? Since when does music have to have a
"transcriptable melody line" to be music? Plenty of metal, rock, pop, etc
could be dismissed with a vague comment like this.

A lot of stuff we call 'music' isn't very musical. The term refers to
several different forms of artistic impression. The common theme is use of
sound, not "transcriptable melody lines."

-Thumper
-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU  -  Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

	"I just hope you didn't think it sucked."
		-Garth Algar
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14288 rec.music.reviews:206 bit.listserv.allmusic:5753
From: woj@romulus.rutgers.edu (voy toy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.reviews,bit.listserv.allmusic
Subject: dust devils/mad scene/television personalities @ maxwells
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 01:53:37 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: the wonderful world of muzak



dust devils/the mad scene/television personalities @ maxwells
 
saturday april 11th was the last night of the first american tour of the
television personalities, a band that certainly deserves the adjective seminal,
though seminal what is still in question. 
 
but first the openers...
 
the dust devils have been called a poor man's sonic youth. being rather fond of
their releases that i have tracked down, i've always taken exception to that
description. after seeing their performance though, i'm more likely to agree.
they played well and i enjoyed the short set, but they were not what i had
expected. the noise of their sound seems to be a by-product rather than a goal
(as it is with sonic youth). on stage, they are a group of goofballs mixing a
healthy dose of stupidity, sarcasm and drunkenness. fun, but certainly not
refined. i was impressed with their "rhythm" section though. the bassist (marc
something) and the drummer (didn't catch his name) were both respectable and
worked well together.
 
for the mad scene, this was a bit of a homecoming as they are hoboken residents
(when they're not being indie popsters). they performed a set that was three
quarters pop brilliance and one quarter boring. when they're on, they're on,
but they lose it occasionally. one factor in their inconsistancy is the female
singer. when she tries to sing in that etherial mode favored by oh-so-many
female popsters, her voice's shortcomings are very apparant. she can manage a
straight ahead growl though and the single song that she did so was pretty
effective. their real strength is the song writing: sure they took lessons from
the 60s pop thing, but it's a formula that works even if it hasn't been changed
much. the male singer is also fairly decent. overall, a much better opener
than the dust devils (for the tvp's anyways). they have one single on homestead
records which i rather like.
 
finally, the television personalities took the stage around 12:45 am amidst
comments about americans never sleeping. they had strung a bunch of british
flags across the stage and had a picture of jesus christ and a spray-painted
mural (done moments before the show) of flowers as backdrops. that typifies
their performance: goofy and sarcastic, but with an intelligence that the dust
devils (for example) lacked. lots of interaction with the audience, most of it
clever and off the cuff wit, and very low key personalities. and the music?
pure, unadultered, perfect pop: jangly guitars, infectious melody and songs
about girls, undying love and broken hearts - the stuff that pop is made of.
entertaining and a lot of fun. certainly worth the wait...
-- 
woj - ich bin schwarz und weiss oder weiss und schwarz - with a kiss...
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: gdridle@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley)
Subject: Hurdy Gurdy Man lyrics? (1st line)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:18:51 GMT


Does anyone know the first two lines of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man"?
It sounds unintelligible to me.
The rest of it, after "To find that I was by the sea..." makes sense,
so I don't need all the lyrics sent.
 
BTW, who did the guitar solos?
 
Guy Ridley
pacbell!pbhya!gdridle
From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Violent Femmes on Dennis Miller
Keywords: Violent, Femmes
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:19:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services

>bhowmik@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Prasanta K. Bhowmik) writes:
>>I saw the Violent Femmes on Dennis Miller rerun last week, and they
>>played this song which has been haunting me for the last six months.
>>The lyrics go something like "I like American music...".  Which
>>album is it off of, and is it a cover.  If so, who wrote the song, and
>>who originally recorded it.  

(someone else already answered the question, but i have a comment too :)

I just heard this son on the radio the other day, and my first thought
was "hmmm who did the original of this?". So I listened very closely,
and i quickly became apparent that it was *meant* to sound that way,
and that there are little clues (i only heard it the once or i'd offer
examples!) that it's an original. 

For those who know, how representative is this song of the violent femmes
music? I've never heard anything else by them (that i know of), but have
heard of them.. I woudln't have imagined them sounding the way this
song portrays them. 

		    	jessica

-- 
|| jessica  || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for ||
|| lawrence ||    brings us    || any moment in time, every memory of mine.  ||
|| koeppel  ||    together.    || Those years are lines of color on my face, ||
|| dembski  ||        --Kate   || the past is warpaint.     --Happy Rhodes   ||
From: aiadm@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Andrew D. Milligan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: What is CD CONNECTION?
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:23:05 GMT
Reply-To: aiadm@aifh.ed.ac.uk (Andrew D. Milligan)
Organization: Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

CD CONNECTION have always given me (in the UK) prompt service and the
cheapest prices I've seen so I wouldn't suggest that you write them off
instantly - yes there is obviously a risk in buying from somewhere so
far away but its paid off for me. If you are going to deal with them
make your initial order (if not every order) for one or two disks -
much more than this is just asking for trouble. I'd say try them but
don't hold me responsible if you do get ripped off. They advertise
frequently in US collectors magazine Goldmine and they do supply a
pretty extensive catalogue.
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Deja vu (Re: ALL TIME GREATEST GROUPS LIST)
Date: 31 Mar 92 13:20:26 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


In <dvlbbn.701944023@zeus> dvlbbn@cs.umu.se (Bj|rn Bengtsson) wrote:

> Let's start a chain of favourite music-groups!

Let's not. Please.


- Hans

--
Hans H{\"u}ttel, Office E1-111                   -   hans@iesd.auc.dk  
Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Fredrik Bajersvej 7E, 9220 Aalborg {\O} DENMARK - North Jutland is for lovers.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla)
Subject: Perry Farrell:  Porno for Pyros
Summary: He's baaaaaaaaaack
Keywords: Jane's Addiction, Perry Farrell
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:32:30 GMT


On Kurt Loder's Week in Rock on MTV tonight, they showed a segment
about an AIDS benefit concert in LA which featured, among other bands,
Perry Farrell's "already popular" new band Porno for Pyros.  Does
anyone have any information about this project, like single or album
release date, where to get it, if they're going to be involved with
Lolla II, etc, etc, etc.?  Inquiring minds want to know! 

Posting is okay, I guess, but if you can, please mail me.  I don't
wanna somehow miss a post...

Thanks!

Rob
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Name of Andrews' Sisters.
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <ANDY.92Apr16163247@bermuda.autodesk.com> andy@bermuda.autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam) writes:
> Hi, would anyone know the names of the WWII singing trio,
> the Andrews' sisters (one is Maxine). Want them for names
> of decstations, which are code named, well you guess...

LaVerne, Maxene and Patti, or so the R&R encylopedia says...
            ^
-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing:   domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
From: robertt@vcd.hp.com (Bob Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:04:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.1992Apr16.170403.17032
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD

Just to throw in something nobody will probably recognize:

Danial Amos/DA/Da - the !Alarma! Chronicles (actually four consecutive
albums):

!Alarma!
Doppleganger
Vox Humana
Fearful Symmetry



Bob Taylor
HP Vancouver
From: lehe@lulea.trab.se (Lennart Hedenstr|m)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Grand Slam - 2 different bands ?
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:53:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: miramon.4047
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden

Philip Lynott who sang and played the bass in Thin Lizzy,
did put together a band called Grand Slam after Lizzy
broke up. They never succeeded in getting a record contract.
I have managed to get my hands on a rare live LP called
_Live Document_ which feature this group. The other members
was Archie Brennan, Lawrence Archer, Mark Stanway and Doish Nagle.

In the CD International World Reference guide there is two CD's
listed by a group called Grand Slam. Obviously they are only
released in Japan. The CD's are _Golden Bat_ and _Infinity_.

My question is, if this is CD's by a totally different band, or
if it just is another two rare CD's by the same group I have
described.

I know that Japan is more liberal concerning pirate recordings.
CD International lists some bootlegs but the two CD's I've described
is not marked "(BT)" for bootleg.

Respond by e-mail.

I have a lot of Lizzy live tapes, maybe we could do some trading if
there is anyone that has anything interesting music.

Lennart (lehe@lulea.trab.se)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: Genesis more creative than Yes??!!!
Organization: Yes
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:23:27 GMT

In article <RJC.92Apr9170340@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.235148.15607@nic.unh.edu>, Timothy C Webb (tcw) writes:
>
>tcw> If you knew anything about Yes, you'd know they're not in it for
>tcw> the money.
>
>Yes, Right, Sure.
>That's why they sell all their albums and concert tickets at cost,
>right? 

  Blah blah blah blah...
  What in the world are you talking about? I can get Yes albums cheaper than
albums by almost any other group. It seems to me that every other band's album
on the Atlantic/Atco or Arista label would be the exact same price as the Yes
albums. And I've never seen Yes tickets on sale at higher prices than any other
band's tickets. Even if there was a difference in price, you have to take into
account the simple fact that prices are most definitely NOT set by the band,
but rather by the bigwig managers and producers at the record companies. What,
is there a "Yes price mark-up" in your area or something?
 
-- 
:::::::::::        ::::         ::::::   
 <<<<<<<<<<<      >>>>   >>>   >>>>>>    Tim Webb   tcw@kepler.unh.edu
     ????        ????  ?????  ?????    _________________________________
      ((((      (((( ((((((( (((((   
       ####    ########  #######       "The challenge is to chase the sound
        ||||  |||||||    ||||||      just to break away"   ---YES
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Request for info on OIO, Anim
Summary: anyone know anything about this?
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:14:41 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

I originally posted this on alt.exotic-music, but after more than a week,
have received no replies.  So I'm trying again on a news.group with
bigger distribution, and hopefully more Europeans who might be able to
answer me.

I'm in the USA right now, though recently I was in Europe, and I saw
this new CD by a group/artist/something which I think was "Oio"; the
album was titled "Anime" or "Anima" or something close.  The music
was described as a Celtic/Roman blend.  I heard a track or two, and
was convinced this was worth having.  But I didn't buy it, thinking
it would be in the US also, and I could save some bucks buying it
here.

Big mistake.

Anyway; has anyone heard of what I just described, and has anyone seen
it in the US?  Will it be in the US any time soon?  And is it really 
worth having?

E-mail or post, any responses will be welcome...
I'll summerize and post whatever response I get.
-- 
                    ' ",      *
Karl Wagenfuehr         ,         "Weisst du, wieviel Sternlein stehen an dem
wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu  ,  '      blauen Himmelszelt?"  --Deutsches Volkslied
                          '
From: jimh@ism.isc.com (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: "I'm Blue" was Re: my boy lollipop
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:11 GMT
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Organization: SunSoft Inc., Los Angeles, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigboy.west.sun.com

In article <1992Apr6.152805.473@alc.com> altinbay@alc.com (John Altinbay) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.173506.24258@apollo.hp.com> stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman) writes:
>- Millie Small made a few other records that were better known in
>- England than in the US (I think she was usually identified simply
>- as "Millie"). She also recorded a few odd things with Steve Winwood
>- & the Spencer Davis Group, including a pretty awful thing called
>- something like "I'm Blue", in which she mainly just squeaked and
>- swooped out a lot of nonsense syllables.
>Was that Millie Small?  Wow.
>I'm Blue (The Gong Gong Song).  I really liked it.  What's this
>about it being pretty awful?

Of course the Ikettes did the original - never heard Millie's version
but I generally like squeaking, swooping, and nonsense syllables so I'll
have to try and find it.









....
jimh@west.sun.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: wangc@cpsc.UCalgary.ca (Carol Wang)
Subject: multiple lyric request: greg kihn, james brown, tone loc, etc
Organization: The University of Calgary
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:49:27

i was looking for lyrics to any and/or all of the following, i've
looked on the lyric server without success, if i'm wrong please
correct me:
	our love's in jeopardy - the greg kihn band
	stop dragging my heart around - quarterflash
	you got it (the right stuff) - NKotB
	la bamba - traditional
	U can't touch this - mc hammer
	wild thing - tone loc
	my sharona - the knack
	living in america - james brown

thanx in advance for and and all help.

carol (now why would i want a thing like that? 8)
From: galuska@dewey.udel.edu (Scott Galuska)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Quadraphonic: Rare alternative versions of songs
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:24:26 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1992Apr8.215927.24174@predator.vpharm.com> dap@vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>Anyone out there collect, or at least own, any quadraphonic albums.
>Anyone but me, of course. But I have a little of everything... :-)

I do, I do!!

>To make these quadraphonic albums, they had to go back to the
>original master tapes and do significant remixing. In the process,
>different versions of songs were sometimes used, or songs were 
>noticably altered.

< lines deleted concerning different mixes of Janis Ian's "Between The
  Lines" & Sly's "Greatest Hits" >

>Some other quad goodies that I've accumualted: A quad 8-track of John
>Lennon's "Imagine" (I've never seen a vinyl counterpart, and I don't have
>a quad 8-track player...) and a special quad demonstration album released
>in the mid '70's that has one side devoted to each of the competing
>quad technologies (there were four). It's probably the only place you
>can find Pink Floyd's "Money" mixed for each of these quad systems.

Probably the best selling quad album of all-time is the Doors "THE BEST OF
THE DOORS" (Elektra EQ5035) from 1973, which was released only in quad on
vinyl.  I have never seen a stereo vinyl version of this one, although I
believe that at least latter-day (read: 1980's) versions on cassette are in
stereo.

The only "goodie" I have in my collection is a quad 8-Track of Paul McCartney
& Wings' "Band On The Run".  According to the latest Beatles' price guide,
there was no quad vinyl counterpart.  (I can check if there is a vinyl
counterpart to Lennon's quad "Imagine" and e-mail you the details....)

I haven't listened to the 8-Track yet- gotta track down a working player,
first!


-- 
Scott Galuska
Dept. of Computer & Info. Science        "This isn't rocket science, Smithers.
Univ of Delaware                          This is brain surgery!"
galuska@dewey.udel.edu