HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Rick E Romkey <rer@utrcv1.res.utc.com>
Subject: Re: MS WinWord -> MS Word 5.0 unexpectantly quits
X-Xxdate: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:07:14 GMT
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:01:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.163352.19724@unlinfo.unl.edu> evelyn fink,
efink@unlinfo.unl.edu writes:
>When I try converting a file using MS Word 5.0 file conversion utility
>for documents created in Word for Windows, I either get a system error
>(ID=01) or the machine just hangs up.  
>
>Any experience with their conversion utilities?
>
>I'm running system 6.05 using Finder with a memory allocation for Word
>of 2 megs on system w 5 megs RAM.
>
>Evelyn Fink					efink@unl.edu
>University of Nebraska Lincoln

I had the same problems as you.  I first thought it was a problem with the
conversion routine, so I tried re-installing that from the original disks.
I still had periodic errors though, so I tried boosting up the memory
for Word to 2.5 megs.  Then everything worked groovey!

Good luck!

	Rick.
From: pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Laser Prep - is it still needed with 6.0.7
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:03:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunb10.1992Aug19.170343.25451
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In <78012@ut-emx.uucp> charlieb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nihil) writes:

>We are adding system seven machines to our network.  
>We have about 200 se's and pluses that we are going to bring up
> to system 6.0.7 so as to utilize the same laserdrivers that our
> quadras and ci's and si's are using.
>The latest version, the version we are installing, is laser driver 7.1.1.
> We know that we do not need to have the laser prep on the system seven 
> machines.  But what about the 6.0.7 machines?  Do we need the 6.0.7 
> laser prep file in addition to the 7.1.1 driver on the 6.0.7 machines?
>Are there any weird things to expect?  Anything problems people have had
> with this setup?

*****>	Huh?  The LaserPrep file *is* required under System 7.
-- 
	- Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
	  AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
	  Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jonathan A. Duke <jonathan@hermes.bc.edu>
Subject: Re: FWB Hammer Tools
Organization: Boston College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:00:35 GMT

Subject: FWB Hammer Tools
From: Stephan Bublava, krapf@email.tuwien.ac.at
In article <1992Aug18.152928.25583@email.tuwien.ac.at> Stephan Bublava,
krapf@email.tuwien.ac.at writes:
>I would like to know which is the last version of the FWB Hard Disk
>Toolkit. 

1.1.1 is the latest version.  It just adds support for more mechanisms,
nothing more than that (as far as I can tell).

>I would also be interested if someone has bad experiences with the
>Hammer Tools. 

I've been running HDT since last November without any problems.  We 
have it installed on our server drives (running Sys 7 & Appleshare
3.0) and no problems with that.


<Stuff Deleted to preserve sanity & clarity>

>I have reformatted the hard disk twice and reinstalled the system from 
>scratch 4 times, but the Mac still crashes.

Did you reinstall from the same set of system install disks each time? 

If you did, the disk set might be the problem (garbage getting installed).


>I am not sure what causes these crashes, but at the moment I suspect
>the hardware and/or the hard disk driver. If you have any suggestions
>please let me know.

I would suspect the software, if the installs were all done with the
same set of disks.

If the above isn't true, then run the HDT tests on your drive to check
that out.  If the drive passes, open up the cx, and remove and reseat 
the SIMMs.  I had no end of problems until I did that on my SE/30. 
Also, check the speed of the chips on each SIMM.  It should be in the
range of 100 NS (indicated by a -10 on the individual chips).

The memory speed COULD be a problem (it was in my case).  Faster memory
should cure it.


Jon Duke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: frantzen@nosc.mil (Louise E. Frantzen)
Subject: language learning software (French)
Keywords: French language learning
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:30:52 GMT

Hello all, 

I wonder if anyone has any experience with the various software around
for learning/tutoring a foreign language.  I am interested in French in
particular.  I have seen advertised various products by Hyperglot but don't
know what the specifics are for each of their products.  I have also seen
Picture-It! by Baseline Publishing (I think).  If anyone has any personal
experience with any of these products or if there are others that I don't
know about yet, I would appreciate any input. 

Thanks, 
Louise

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NRaD, San Diego		'cause we go crazy from time to time.  Well push 
(619) 553-7863		my button, baby, here I come.  I'm at high tide."
frantzen@nosc.mil		- Laurie Anderson, Beautiful Red Dress
all of above my opinions, not the Navy's
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From: kim_g_helliwell@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Automatic (Educational) Test Generation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:53:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I am looking for an application or set of same to do the following:

	1.  Maintain a database of exam questions for Math classes.
	2.  Allow selection of a set of these questions based on subject
	    matter, difficultyand so on.
	3.  Compile the selected set of questions into a formatted exam.

Note: presumably a standard database application could do the database part of
things, except that because the subject matter is math, I need to be able to
accommodate "MathType" or "Expressionist"-style mathematical typeset elements
embedded in the text (and correctly formatted on output).  Inclusion of 
diagrams in some questions is also highly desireable.

Having some familiarity with Mac programming, I wouldn't mind writing the 
database portion of this application, but I balk a bit at writing the 
word-processing portion.

What I wonder is if some database and some word processor can be made to
work together to effect this application by use of Publish and Subscribe or
some other IPC paradigm?

Final Note:  I did experiment with an application that was just about exactly
what I want; it was specifically tailored to the task of storing math 
questions and worked with a word-processor that had built-in math layout 
functionality.

The single serious flaw I found was that it crashed whenever I tried to do
anything useful with it.

Please reply by email with any helpful pointers.

Kim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:54:11 EDT

In article <D88-JWA.92Aug16211653@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:
>
>   And this is no small point.  If you look at most of the programming tools that
>   you talk about as "basic" or "fundamental" that you are worried about having
>   to license, you will see that the vast majority are old enough that, even if
>   they had been patented, they would be public domain now.
>
>Like a host-independent byte order, or hashing to find a match
>in LZ77 compression ?

Who said that nothing *useful* would be under patent?

Some people were claiming that the face of programming would be changed forever
as the most fundamental techniques which all programmer's use (like quicksort,
for example) would require licensing.  I hardly think that the two examples
that you cite can be considered, at this time, to be fundamental techniques
that all (or most) programmer's can be expected to use.

Even if they were,  I never said *all* such techniques would be in the
public domain by now.  I merely said that the *vast majority* would be.

I really think we need to inject some reality here--the reaction I see here
seems to border on hysteria over the "patent menace."


As I have said before, I do *not* know how patents should (or should not) be
applied to algorithms, but let's try to deal approach the question with
rational expectations.

And I'm still waiting to hear an argument as to why inventing an "algorithm"
should be treated any differently than any other invention?

Why is it that patents will cause a total collapse of the programming
profession, though it hasn't caused the downfall of the world when applied to
other inventions?



BTW, for those who were interested, here is the reference to the CACM article:

P. Samuelson, "Why the Look and Feel of Software User Interfaces Should not
   be Protected by Copyright Law," CACM, Vol. 32, No. 5, 563-572 (May 1989).



-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: drew@netcom.com (Drew Wade)
Subject: stuffit bug, email address?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 04:56:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

anyone know the email address for aladdin systems, makers of stuffit.
if so, please email it to me.  i want to report the following bug:

if you have autodoubler installed, stuffit deluxe 2.0 and stuffit 
expander 1.0.1 fail with disk error -50.

thanks!

-drew wade
drew@objy.com


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13284 sci.psychology:3490 sci.cognitive:317 bionet.software:1552
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,sci.psychology,sci.cognitive,bionet.software
Subject: Tachistoscopic Software
From: <PSYANAG@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 14:50:22 MDT
Organization: Brigham Young University

I am, once again, looking for Software on which to do Selective
Attention research.  It must be able to present color images
and measure reaction times.  It may be Mac or IBM compatable,
commercial or otherwise.

I do have a list of programs, but I would like to expand it
in hopes of finding one a little more suitable to my particualar
design.  I will post the list later if there is some interest in
it, so if you have a program you want to be included on the
list, send me a brief description, system requirements,
availability, etc, and I will add it to my list for all
to see.

Thanks in advance,

Abe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hlindley@alfred.carleton.ca (Hugh Lindley)
Subject: Epaper
Summary: Anyone Know about Portfolio System's Epaper?
Keywords: Hypertext, Imaging, Cross-Platform
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:54:05 GMT

Hello fellow netters,
    I was just plowing through the August third edition 
of MacWeek and I came across an interesting product from 
Portfolio Systems Inc. It's called E-paper. Its a cross-
platform product that allows printed output to be saved 
as an independent file that can be viewed on either 
Windows or the Mac/OS. Unfortunately I haven't been able 
to find an add for this product anywhere and the article 
did not give the address or number of the company. 

1. a. Has anyone else heard of this program and used it?
   b. If so, how transparent is the translation to and 
      from Windows. Are their font substitutions?
   c. If so, does the program support an indexing or 
      hypertext function?

2. Does anyone have the telephone number, postal or email 
   address of Portfolio systems?

If anyone can provide information on this product I would 
appreciate it. I'll post a summary if I receive any 
pertinent info. Thanks.

Hugh_Lindley@CARLETON.CA


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13269 comp.sys.mac.databases:977
From: JSHEL-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Interfacing a relay box with a MacIIcx
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:57:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: RICEVM1.16842D278.JSHEL-A
Organization: Rice University

I am trying to interface a voice key relay to a MacIIcx through the mouse port.
I want to measure response latency to a stimulus presented on the screen (in
color); the program I'm using to do this looks for a mouse click as the reactio
n time measure.  The relay box (Lafayette Instruments) was previously used with
a MacPlus which has the nine pin input for the mouse.  The IIcx has an adb adap
tor.  I have several questions which I hope someone will be able to answer.
1) is there an adaptor for a nine pin to an adb. I have tried unsuccessfully to
locate one.
2) does anyone know what the color codes of the mouse wiring is, i.e. what does
 each of the wires do?  I know what each pin in the adb adaptor controls but
don't know which wire connects to which pin. (pin 1: bidirectional databus; pin
2: power on; pin 3: +5 volts; pin 4: ground)
 
What we have tried unsuccessfully to do is connect the relay box to a mouse wir
e  so that any input to the relay box would act like a mouse click.  So far,
we've only got the mouse to move but have not simulated a click.
Does anyone have any suggestions?  We don't necessarily have to go through the
mouse port, we could go through the keyboard but the connection problem is
the same.  I would greatly appreciate any suggestions sent directly to my e-mai
l address.  I am under something of a time pressure with this as it is part of
my dissertation research and I would like to finish my thesis in this century.
Thanks for any help ......                       J. Shelton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Gann Matsuda)
Subject: Re: IS CRYSTAL QUEST 2.2 S7 COMPATIBLE?
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:44:10 PDT

In article <16AUG199213081519@utkvx4.utk.edu>, on 16 Aug 92 18:08:00 GMT,
ljones@utkvx4.utk.edu (Jones, Leslie Lamont) writes:

>
>Hey all!
>
>Two questions:
>go boom 
>1. Is Crystal Quest 2.2 compatible with system 7; i.e., will it make my system
>
>
>2. If it is not system 7 compatible, does Cassady and Greene offer a free
>update? 
>
>I found CQ 2.2 on sale for $15, prompting this post. Incidentally, the same
>store has such antiquities as ThinkTank 512 (predecessor of MORE) and Execel
>1.03!
>
>Thanks in advance,
>LJONES@utkvx.utk.edu
>Leslie Lamont Jones
>
Crystal Quest 2.2x (x is the revision...don't know what the latest
revision is...I have revision c) is compatible with System 7.0.
For upgrade information, call Casady & Greene, Inc., (408)
484-9228.

Gann Matsuda
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Conversion of CGM graphics files?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:04:51 GMT
Organization: Boeing


Assuming you can obtain a package... Canvas readily opens and converts
CGM files.

Rick

-- 
Rick Pavek                       | Never ask a droid to outdo its program.
kuryakin@bcstec.boeing.com       |           
AppleLink:  kuryakin             | It wastes your time           
r.pavek1@GENIE                   |          and annoys the droid.
From: hsiung@wsl.dec.com (Daniel Hsiung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Can anyone tell me what is "fixed" means ?
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:44:56 GMT
Reply-To: hsiung@wsl.dec.com (Daniel Hsiung)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab


Hi all ! I am not familiar with the apple C, I need to know 
what "fixed" stands for, is it an int or is it a char equivalent ?
or this is anything else ? I am talking about syntax like 
	fixed 	FHatom;
	int 	count;
	........

Thanks in advance for the help.

-Dan
From: lhermens@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Leonard Hermens - CS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:41:45 GMT
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <1992Aug12.171307.16347@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross) writes:
>In article <mwalker-110892145014@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
>mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker) writes:
>
>> Unless the password was distributed to all who had a pirated copy. What's
>> to stop me from recieving the password at work, and taking it home to
>> unlock my pirated copy. (Purely a hypothetical case!!!!!)
>
>The user would call up the company and read a number directly from the
>computer screen. The number would be generated based on the clock and
>perhaps the number of files present on the user's open volumes. This
>number would be unique since it depends on the users configuration AT
>THE TIME OF THE CALL. Even if he/she were to give the password for
>license extension to a friend, it would not be likely work on any other
>system.

      So what in this senario prevents me from copying the application
for a friend?  The application has the "correct" password installed now,
right?

Leonard
From: cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:57:05 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

> I've worked with all three.    Access PC is the best.  DosMounter is 
> by
> far the most picky and I recommend you avoid it.  Any disk formatted
> with DOSMounter frequently  is not readable by actual PCs.  Mac-PC

I had similar bad experiences with DOSmounter.  It seems to leave
desktop code that is eventually read by the PC and it decides the disk
is trashed.  Thats my semi-educated diagnosis, I could usually recover
the files but it took several screw ups before I reallized I didn't
have a batch of bad disks...mean while...my grade suffered.
-- 
Rick 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Subject: Re: How do Nuntius/NewsWatcher/other work??
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:21:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.222031.21833@hellgate.utah.edu>,
mshields%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Michael S Shields) wrote:
> 
> Question:
> 
> 	Do the newsreaders discussed here allow you to dial in to a remote
> Unix box(say with Zterm) and then read news?? Or are they for a Mac connected
> to a network where you can access a Unix box directly??

All of them work (in theory) with any of the new SLIP products or with ARA.
Here at NU, we are using MacSLIP from Hyde Park software together with our
Cisco terminal server to support general dialup access to the Internet for
Mac users. All the TCP/IP client software we support here at NU works fine
with MacSLIP, it's just slower: Eudora (regular network mode, not the
special dialup Comm Toolbox thingy), Ph, NewsWatcher, XferIt, NCSA Telnet,
tn3270, etc.

That's the beauty of MacSLIP (and ARA too): You don't need special versions
of your networking software. All of the regular MacTCP-based software works
with no changes. This is because MacSLIP and ARA actually make your remote
dialed-up Mac a "real" node on the Internet.

NewsWatcher 1.3d5 (the current version), however, is nearly unuseably slow
over such a dialup link. It currently fetches the entire full group list
from the server every time you run it, which takes a long, long time over a
slow dialup link (really bad at 2400 baud, for example). We will be solving
this problem soon (not in 1.3d6, but perhaps in 1.3d7).
 
> Also, what are the choices, and were can I find them.

I think the basic choices are The News, Nuntius, and NewsWatcher, if you
don't count HyperCard stacks.

I really don't know where to get the other ones (sumex-aim.stanford.edu
would be a good guess), but NewsWatcher is available via anonymous FTP to
ftp.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.113.52], in the directory pub/newswatcher.
Warning: NewsWatcher is still in the early development stages. Don't use it
if you expect perfection. Read the README file, please!

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com (Bill Moynihan)
Subject: Re: Need complete path to..
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:48:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.153830.11109@rosevax.rosemount.com> jay@rosemount.com (Jay Warrior) writes:
>Somebody mentioned the CDEV called Trimmer which cuts down the size of
>those large PostScript files. Could someone give me a path (system/directory/
>filename) where I can find a copy ?
>--jay
>
>
Jay,

Try sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6)
info-mac/cp/ps-trimmer-101.hqx.
-- 
Bill Moynihan (moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: khanh kim, nguyen <knguyen@emr.ca>
Subject: Init Manager needed
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6B5727468012259@knguyen.emr.ca>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:12:52 GMT
Organization: emr
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:28:10 GMT

Hi,
I try to ftp Rascal and wuarchive.wustl.edu ( to get to Rascal and Umic), 
but it seems to me that all the files like Init Manager and Init CDEV are 
messed up . I retrieved Init CDEV from Umich (in wuarchive.wustl.edu), 
but Stuffit 3.0.1 could not regcognize it although the file has ext.
.sit.  
Does anybody have the good copy ? Please e-mail to me.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: olle@astro.uu.se (Olof Morell)
Subject: Re: Help! Stuffit Lite Problems
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:01:44 GMT

In article <fred-mckenzie-120892175941@128.159.169.79>, fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug12.170049.29789@trantor.harris-atd.com>,
|> rcarvin@x102a.ess.harris.com (carvin robert 60184) wrote:
|> > I have fetched Stuffit Lite from several sources via anonymous ftp and
|> > run into the a problem each time.

|> When I downloaded Stuffit Lite, I was successful the first time.  I don't
|> remember where I got it, but I don't think that is your problem.
|> 
|> If you download a .HQX file, you should be using ascii format, which is
|> usually the default.  Unless you use a program like Fetch, you will need
|> BinHex version 4 to decode .HQX files.  I believe Stuffit 1.5 uses BinHex
|> version 5 conversion, which is normally used to convert a binary file that
|> was uploaded with MacBinary.

I don't think so. StuffIt Classic un-binhexed my copy of Lite successfully,
your process should work just fine. Seems weird.

Have you tried running something like Norton Disk Doctor on your hard disk ?

*** Olle ***
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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: TouchBase vs. Dynodex
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:55:02 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

I have not used Dynodex. I do use TouchBASE and am really happy with it. The
sort routine is powerful and the print capabilities would accomodate your
requirements. TouchBASE is very powerful and it seems a natural add on for you
to get DateBook as well. It also accomodates printing for DayRunners and can
share data very cleanly and easily with TouchBASE. They're a really nice pair.

smittie
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