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From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Election in the Bahamas
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:05:09 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


Well, Sir Lyndon Pindling prorogued the House (dissolved the session
of Parliament) and finally declared a
somewhat overdue election in the Bahamas to be held this month.
Tempers are short and emotion is high.

Valerie Maslak
(just back from Andros)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: esli@athens.uucp (22465-hernandez)
Subject: Garifunas
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:35:53 GMT

Harriet:

In regards with:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hello out there!
        I am a new user who is eager to discover and communicate with anyone
from Belize, the often forgotten member of the Caribbean family.  I am
Garifuna, a people directly descended from the Caribs and African slaves who
fled to Belize or were eventually brought there.  Though we are more known in
the spanish speaking  world for our music (punta rock), those of the english
speaking Caribbean who are more culturally or musically inclined generally know
about our people too. My friend Richard (of Africa Unbound! and the Adelphi U.
Caribbean Club) got me involved in this electronic mail stuff, and asked that I
tell all of you out there to grab a black bro or sis and bring them into the
computer age also. Please write to me -  anyone who just wishes to ask me
questions about my culture or anything, as I am sure that probably most if not
all of you never heard of the Garifuna people before. I await any replies.

Harriet Servio. - (my first post).
                                    
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'm interested in knowing more about the garifuna people.
Can you tell more about the garifunas. Maybe you can provide some references 
that I can read about them. Also, what language do
they speak? Some puntas I've heard doesn't sound like spanish nor english.

Hoping you can Help me,

Esli 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: NAJASO
Reply-To: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:34:58 GMT

Hello fellow netters,

What a gwan?  Seems all o you get col'up can' hear nutten from noone.  Anyway
what I am asking about is :

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE NAJASO?  IT IS AN ORGANISATION
OF JAMAICANS AND OTHER WEST INDIANS HERE IN THE US AND I BELIEVE THEIR THRUST
IS ALL-ENCOMPASSING.

Please let me know.  Either by e-mailing me directly or posting here on the 
net.  OK and if is the lovely Caribbean oonu gone to, mi noh blame oonu still

Til such time. PEACE
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,misc.jobs.misc,misc.emerg-services
From: brent@telebit.com (Brent Chapman)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Keywords: work vacation
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:52:50 GMT

ttraub@world.std.com (Terry Traub) writes:

>A company I used to work for had a nice policy:  30 days a year
>combined vacation and sick leave.  If you get sick a lot, you get lots
>of time to recover.  If you never get sick, you get awesome vacation
>opportunities.  None of this pretenng to be sick in order to get more

Another problem with many companies is how they deal with employees who
are also volunteer emergency services workers.

I'm a volunteer emergency transport, disaster relief, and search and
rescue pilot with the Civil Air Patrol.  I'm on call for emergency
flying missions; I just got a call for an organ transplant transport
mission this morning, as a matter of fact (unfortunately, I couldn't
take it because I just got back from the dentist, and can't fly until
tomorrow because of the anesthetic).  Other volunteer emergency
services organizations include the Red Cross, sheriff's reserve units,
emergency relay amateur radio operators (RACES or ARES), volunteer
firefighters (much more common in small towns than in big cities; often
the main or _only_ fire and medical units in rural areas), and so forth.

Any of us might be called upon at short notice for a single- or
multi-day involvement in an emergency.  The problem is that, in my
experience, most companies have no policy for how to deal with this.
Some insist that you take the time as vacation time, or as unpaid
leave.  Other more enlightened companies treat this the same way they
do National Guard and military Reserve duties.  The best companies
(usually because they have such an emergency worker in the management)
provide up to a certain number of paid days each year (typically 2
weeks) specificly for emergency services work; this has dual benefits
of both supporting and _encouraging_ emergency services work.

In my case, it's a moot point now, since I run my own consulting
business, and thus control my own schedule to a very great degree.
When I explain my activities to my clients, they are almost invariably
curious about and supportive of them, and more than eager to be flexible
with meetings and deadlines and such if an emergency comes up.  If
I ever consider a "regular job" again, though, you can be sure that I'll
want to know what that company's policy is, and that the policy will be
a major factor in my decision about whether or not to work for that
company.


-Brent
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Brent Chapman                                   Great Circle Associates
Brent@GreatCircle.COM                           1057 West Dana Street
+1 415 962 0841                                 Mountain View, CA  94041
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british
From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
Subject: Re: Special Interest Groups was (Re: Defined: National Police Force)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:13:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.210159.28958@morrow.stanford.edu>,
silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva) writes:

> [...]
> The NRA-survivalist-minded extremist and their PC-mushy-'liberal'

A question, Holly.  Do you know any NRA members?  You've just made
some rather serious accusations.  You wouldn't happen to be prejudiced,
would you?  This *is* a serious flaw in American culture....  ;-)

> opponents deserve censure. Both of them.

Ah, good!  It's time we got rid of the freedom of speech anyway...

> It's the NRA types who'd like us to believe that a waiting 

Again, you use that description, "NRA types".  Is this something akin
to the use of "Nigger", "Spic", "Honkey", "Bitch", "Bastard"... etc?
These terms are generally used by those who habitually pre-judge others
(a.k.a. bigots).  Not a sign of an open mind....  Perhaps a little
research is in order.

> [...]
> 	A pox on both your houses, lying bastards that you are.

A serious accusation....  Has it ever ocurred to you that you may
be lying to yourself?  Self delusions are the worst kind of lies.

Perhaps you're merely a victim of the news media....

-- 
Charles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu
Dept of Physics, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat)
Subject: Breakup of population.
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:04:45 GMT

Does anybody know or knows of any source where I can get the current
ethnic population makeup in eprcentage in the United States?

Dinkar.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections,alt.war
From: bhatnaga@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: U2 front row seats Aug 20th Foxboro St,Boston
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:13:05 GMT


Hi all of you U2 fans out there,

I have great news for you.I have four front row seats(10 feet from the

stage) for the U2 concert at Foxboro Stadium,Boston on Aug 20th.

Interested parties please contact me at 413-549-7912.I can Federal

Express the tickets to you as soon as possible.This is your only chance

to get tickets for this sold out show.

Maneesh Bhatnagar,

UMASS,Amherst.
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Is this American custom?
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:26:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.155934.26784@news.acns.nwu.edu>, qcg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Qing Guo) writes:
> 
	...[doors are left open in house being house-sat]

	We usually keep the doors open in our house.  There isn't a reason to
close them, except when we want privacy.  So for us the normal state is open.

	It may also be that they don't want you to feel you shouldn't go into
one of the rooms because the door is closed.

	Ask em!

Brett                                                      
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From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 11:47:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Family Values and the West (Socialist Utopia: no families :-)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

In soc.culture.usa, gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:

> gf:
> | ->Yeah, but what's a "family"?  
     unfortunately, it is not generally used to mean "any group of people
who choose to join together to provide mutual support and security."

> 
> tedrick@whistle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
> | Typical of your average socialist, doesn't know what a
> | family is :-)

         Neither socialists nor any other political group has been 
willing to acknowledge 'family' as a voluntary social unit. 

> 
> 2.  I promise not to turn your definition over to the UPS
> police.  Now: when you use the word "family", what do you
> mean?

          Yeah. What's your definition? 




Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.british,talk.politics.guns
From: leppo@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: What are family values?
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:03:18 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

I'm watching a political convention, something that I usually consider
a bunch of lying politicians yelling at sheep.
Anyhow I've been hearing the Republican's platform continue to speak
of family values.
What are family values?
Should I look to the Cleaver family?
To what resource do I look to to understand what the party defines as
family values?
It seems to me that they are shouting that they support good things without
saying what they think "good" is.
This is not a bag on politicians or the Republican party?
This is a question so that I may decide between the lesser of two
evils, Clinton or Bush.
What are family values?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: [alt.activism et al] Re: SWAT team kills innocent woman in No-Knock raid.
Keywords: SWAT police no-knock raid death thugs occupying-army friendly-fire Officer-Friendly Enemies-R-US
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:41:02 GMT

A repost from alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,seattle.general:

From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Subject: Re: SWAT team kills innocent woman in No-Knock raid.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:51:46 GMT
Keywords: SWAT police no-knock raid death thugs occupying-army friendly-fire Officer-Friendly Enemies-R-US

In article <1992Aug17.140727.10565@news.eng.convex.com> gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.222303.12522@eskimo.celestial.com> kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum) writes:
>>You did, all of you, already.  You wanted secure streets, less crime,
>>jail for drug dealers, and the right to be secure in the dim, flickering
>>light of your livingrooms, sealed off in your mercury-vapor-illuminated
>>urban fortresses.  You paid for it, and you got what you ordered.
>	Yes.  I'm afraid you are right.
>
>>This old cynic suspects that these guys are just adrenalin junkies and
>>thrill-seekers that get off playing close to the edge, and have found a
>>way to get the state to finance their habit.  Others go bungee-jumping.
>	This old cynic agrees with you.  I think that that type 
>	of work attracts a certain kind of person shall we say. . .
>
>>Bosh, he'll just jam his pointy head down a bottle, seeking oblivion
>>and very likely finding it.
>	I doubt he'll even do that.  Sociopaths don't need to drown their
>	consciences in liqour---they have none. Every society has its 
>	sociopaths, individuals that are totally lacking in any regard for 
>	others.  During the Nazi years such minds were attracted to the Gestapo
>	and the SS.  Here in America we have to wake up to the fact that
>	as we push harder for more punitive "solutions" to our social
>	problems we are creating a market for such sociopaths in 
>	law enforcement.

Sadly, IMO, it's worse than that. We're training people who go
into the field to become sociopaths. (As indeed the Nazis did --
there are pages upon pages of speeches telling the recruits that
their consciences will be outraged by the things that they do, but
that they must remember how crucial their work is to the Fatherland...)

Saw a squib not that long ago from a sociologist who followed some NYC
police officers from basic training through the first year on the job,
found that they went in all idealistic and wanting to help people but
uniformly became cynical and vicious in the process of "learning the
ropes."

The problem is not that all the drug warriors are vicious control freak
sociopaths. The problem is that many of them are initially decent
people who honestly believe they are doing a useful job.

paul
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Defined: National Police Force
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:29:08 GMT

In <cl0nbzqh@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, csi056@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.225312.4046@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Bald
>>Guns have several purposes:  they enable you to protect yourself from
>>deadly danger
>>....
>>Surely, life is not now so safe and secure that we don't need to defend
>>ourselves!
>>
>But if there were less guns in circulation then wouldn't there be less risk
>of "deadly danger"?

That's the logic error that the Anti-Bill of Rights people often use.  Without
resorting to rhetoric and patriotic adherence to the Constitution, let's think
about something.  What are criminals?  They are people who *break the law*.
Who are the people that we must defend ourselves against?  *Criminals*.  Will
the criminals obey gun laws?  *Are you kidding?*  So now, if a criminal (who
will *not* obey gun laws) confronts a law-abiding citizen (who will have
disarmed his/herself in adherance to gun laws), who has gained the advantage?
Who has now less fear in committing crimes, hence less deterrence from their
commission?  *Criminals*.

Another point to ponder--consider the drug trade, and consider Prohibition in
the 1920's.  What happened to drugs/booze?  They were *made illegal*.  Did the
use of drugs/booze stop?  *No.*  How was the supply maintained?  *Criminal
drug smuggling and bootlegging*.  How do these people who smuggle drugs/booze
enforce their position in the trade?  *They form "mobs" and "gangs" and kill
each other*.  How did the people who used drugs/booze pay for the stuff after
their prohibition decreased the supply and inflated the price?  *Often, they
had to resort to criminal activity themselves*.  Did bootlegging and mob
activity decline after Prohibition was repealed?  *Absolutely*.

As it was for drugs and booze, it could be for guns.  Criminals would still
access the black market.  In fact, the price of guns would be such that
only *increased criminal activity* would pay for them.

So, from a pragmatic point of view, let alone a Constitutional one, banning or
severely weakening the Second Amendment would be a big mistake.


Tim Irvin   j056600@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
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From: dchung@efi.com (Daniel Chung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: [living standard] U.S.A. has high(est) living standard?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:39:59 GMT


     [Esperanta traduko estas havebla.]

     Former president Mr. Ronald Wilson Reagan said among others, that
we have the highest living standard, and a place which others look up to.
Yes, but I guess only restricted to the upper middle class, and only
those who using resource efficienty.  Otherwise, we have a lot of decay,
like juvenile crime and pregnancy, drugs and alcohol, many minorities not
cared for, and a high energy consumption rate.  I am not even immigrating
here.

					*Zhong* Qi-Iao, U.S.A.
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: <None>
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:34:21 GMT
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.205756.25816@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
> A repost from talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,misc.headlines,sci.econ:
> 
> Subject: Derailing the Reagan Revoltion, part I: Reverse Reaganism
> Message-ID: <1992Aug18.133002.3569@desire.wright.edu>
> From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)

	Jyrki, please!  If I thought this was appropriate to soc.culture.usa I
would have posted it here.

Brett                                                      
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: ault@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault)
Subject: Re: Kulturkampf
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:01:19 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug21.195820.9170@kadsma.kodak.com> pajerek@kadsma.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
>
>I think you would be dismayed at the number of worthwhile organizations in
>your area that would simply have to fold without NEA support. If you think
>you would be better off without an orchestra, or museum, in your area, I
>suppose you're entitled to your opinion. I also have a word for that
>attitude; philistinism. 'Who needs art, (or music, or theatre,) anyway?'

Didn't you know?  The people who are interested in such things must
certainly be part of the "cultural elite."  And who needs them anyway?

-matt


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: muchow@zebo.network.com (Jim Muchow)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:19:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.200354.17507@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>
>I think Americans live to work, Europeans work to live.

Oh, piffle. 

Jim Muchow - but it sure did sound nice
From: KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:12:14 GMT
Organization: Kamchatka Charlie

In article <1992Aug17.200354.17507@bnr.ca> Maurice LaBiche writes:
>
>Consider these points about why we're inclined to work:
>
>1) just to work and stay busy.
     This sound reasonable.  NOT!  Who wants to throw away 40+ hours a week
doing something they wouldn't do if we weren't paid for it--even those of us
who enjoy their jobs?  Especially if there's other stuff we'd rather do?

>2) to have our economy be the biggest and best which thereby enhances
>   or makes all our lives easier
     Sounds like some stupid malarky shoved down on us from the higher-ups.  I
could care less if our economy gets bypassed by Uganda's if I can improve my
life in ways that are not linked to the dictatorial dollar.

>3) work so you can spend the rest of your life(not working life) doing
>   whatever you want
     One problem with this: by the time you get to the point where you're ready
to do whatever you want there's nothing you want to do.  You've spent so much
of your time drowning what you want to do chasing after the dictatorial buck
that when you finally have time to do everything you wish you have nothing you
want to do (except become REALLY addicted to various drugs, starting with coke
or booze and ending with Alcoholics Anonymous).

>4) work to attain and maintain a certain style of living, common trap.
>   sort of like Golden Handcuffs(addicted to paycheck and willing to
>   put up with much caca to keep getting it)
     This is a good reason, but there is something else you got to add into the
picture:  What Americans have to live with.
     Americans have to live with an economy which has been hot-wired in every
way possible to speed up the exchange of $$ between consumers and businessmen. 
There is the utter lack of adequate (sp?) mass-transit, urban sprawl which
makes mass-transit impossible, the mind-set that humans are a solitary species
(contrary to all evidence, BTW--IMHO) and a consumer culture which creates
needs unknown to animals outside of americans just so it can market more
products.  If You Ask Me, American culture is geared towards the dictatorial
dollar in a sick way.
     As an extreme example of this, I have heard reports of the amount of time
spent in TRAFFIC JAMS reported as LOST PRODUCTIVITY!!!  Imagine that--instead
of three hours on the expressway and ten hours in the office, we want them on
the freeway fifteen minutes and in the office thirteen hours!  We wouldn't want
americans to spend time away from work now, would we?  Indeed, it seems wise to
impress them into the service of the ALMIGHTY MULTINATIONAL CORPORATION in
order to create the RICHEST COUNTRY ON EARTH--never mind that we won't have
enough time to fully enjoy it.
     (Mind you, it could be worse.  It could be Japan--where the workers die in
service to their country and MNC).

Kamchatka Charlie          KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
From: qcg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Qing Guo)
Subject: Is this American custom?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:59:34 GMT


I am a student at Northwestern University. I am from China and I don't know USA very well. My current professor lives with his wife in their house near the university. Occasionally they go out of town for vacation for several days. When they leave, they usually ask me to stay at their house during their absence. I have stayed there for several times. Before they go to the airport, they come to school and give me the key, then after me job is over at 5 o'clock, I go to their house and stay there instead of 


going to my home. 

Now this is my question: Every time when I went to their house, I noticed that they had opened all doors inside the house: the doors of his study, of their bedroom, of the two bathrooms, of guest room (where I stay), of kicthen, etc. Is that the American custom for a guest? Does that mean 'We trust you, so we open all doors to you'? Or is it just for air ventilation?

Any ideas and comments are welcome.