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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:24:00 EDT
From:         JL_BOBROWITZ@ACAD.FANDM.EDU
Subject:      metal lists

        Well, I'm surprised that my little request triggered the current
metal war rampaging throughout my messages.Anyway, here is an update of
the current "standings", compiled from people that I've asked here,
callers to my show(and the rest of the metal DJ's shows), and all the
lists that I'v  gotten on Allmusic.
5-"Eyes of a Stranger" by Queensryche off of Operation: Mindcrime
4-"Enter Sandman" by Metallica off Metallica
3-"Master of Puppets" by Metallica off Master of Puppets
2-"You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC off of Back in Black
1-"One" by Metallica off "...And Justice For All"
        If you're surprised, because not a lot of these were sent to me,
Remember that I've been eetting these things for a while. I'll send updates
when things change. If anyone hasn't sent stuff, please do.
        By the way, my answer to "What is Metal?" isn't going to be that
long. Metal is a style of music that can have keyboards, but not as a
major instrument. When the keyboards are too prevalent, I shift the
classification to Hard Rock(see Van Halen's OU812 and 5150). Metal should
have a throbbing drum beat, for easier headbanging. Guitar and drum solos are
not necessary, but preferred. Also, lyrics that either include the word
"baby" or "devil" always works for me.
        Thanks again for sending stuff in.
                                                                Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:21:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      T'pau

Does anyone out there know where I can obtain a copy of the T'pau
album "Rage"????  A friend of mine brought it from England for me in tape form
and now that I have a CD player, I would like the CD.

                                Thanks,

                                Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:38:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Motley Comments
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>About the Crue, My friend told me he heard on the Radio the other day that
>they have officially BROKEN UP COMPLETELY.

>I don't know if there is any truth to this or not.

>Any Comments?

 It doesn't bother me that much if they have broken up. I haven't liked much
 of anything since after "Shout At The Devil" except a few. I still say that
 "Too Fast For Love" is their best album.

 Seeya,
 Gary
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:41:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Sony portables
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>The Sony portables don't last long enough-- mine started to mis-track within 2
>years, and I was pissed. The teensy little headphone jacks are also notorious
>for their failure rate. I'm never going to buy another-- if I want
>music-to-go, I'll dub a cassette.

 I must agree here. I own one of those Sony portable CD players. If you so much
 as breathe on hit heavy, it will skip. Don't even THINK about buying one of
 these to use in your car. The funny part is that mine came with a strap so you
 can use it to go jogging or something...yeah right!!...and yes my headphone
 jack is real flakey also.

 Seeya,
 Gary
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:58:23 EST
From:         X59K000 <X59K@SLUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SIGEP!
X-To:         ALLMUSIC%AUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

> Yeah, you have a sorry chapter here at NC State.  Essentially,
> the entire campus hates the Beverly Hills 90210 wanna bes.

are you guys talking about Sig Alpha Ep's or Sig Phi Ep's?
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:28:11 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject: RE: Oh no! CDs are falling!!!

On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:36:00 EDT Steve Rife said:
>     The compact disk being made a little better than your average nail
>will in all probability out-last the nail.  Storing the nail or Compact
>Disk in a humid basement is probably not a good idea as moisture will
>speed up the oxidation process also.

The CD has to do a much more delicate job than the nail. A rusty nail will
still hold two boards together. A blot on a CD that's barely perceptible to
the human eye will create chaos very evident to the human ear.

I got a copy of Sun Ra's _Blue Delight_ (on A&M Records, during one of their
periodic forays into advanced jazz). It's got very evident scars on it, big
scratch lines going most of the way across the disc-- a pressing defect, I
think; certainly I didn't drag my ice skate across it. The player treats it
as an opportunity to change tracks randomly. Since it's basically yer normal
blues piano soloing, the defect makes it a much more interesting listening
experience, sorta cubist jazz. A friend of mine has a Yelloman CD that looks
like it was trodden on with golf shoes, and it does even more interesting
jumps. There's a guy who calls himself the Evolution Control Committee, in
Columbus OH, who has done performances based on deliberately damaged CD's,
and if there's interest I'll report on some of his investigations.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:02:00 CDT
From:         TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Billy Joel

>      If Billy Joel made another greatest hits album, how many more songs would
>be on it?  Also what songs should have been on his greatest hits that were not?
-----
>Being an old Joel fan from back when Piano Man came out there was alot of
>songs that I would have rather seen on the greatest hits doulbe cd.  I also
>don't think he really has enough material for another greatest hits but I
>wouldn't mind seeing a box set one of these days.  Some of the songs that I
>think should have been on are:
>Billy the Kid
>Los Angelenos
>Street Life Serenader
>Scandinavian Skies
>Roberta

     Well, let me take this golden opportunity to suggest to each
and every Billy Joel fan that they go right out and buy the album
SONGS IN THE ATTIC, right now! It is a collection of live recordings
from '78 and '79. The premise of the album is this: Billy got his
first record contract back in '72, and when he and his band went in
to record the tunes, Joel's record company said: "Nope, we're not
gonna let you record with your band - here are a bunch of wonderful
studio musicans that can sorta learn your music, and won't that be
lovely?" Well, Joel (as you might imagine) wasn't ever 100% happy
with the results - and THE SONGS FROM THE ATTIC are songs from his
first two or three (or maybe four) albums that he wanted to present
to the public the way HE wanted them done in the first place. If I
could remember all the songs I would list them for you now, but alas,
my memory ain't that good, but here goes anyway:

Los Angeletos, The Ballad of Billy The Kid, She's Got A Way About Her,
Captain Jack, Street Life Serenader, Italian Restaurant?....

Now it's starting to get really fuzzy. I'll try and remember to bring
the CD in and list them all to you along with the pertinent liner note
info....

Happy Trails and Later Days....

                                          Tom <TBuck@Knox.Bitnet>
                                          "Sound Can Wash Clothes"
                                                 - Sun Ra -
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:16:00 LCL
From:         jdolina%oscs@IBM4381.ONET.EDU
Subject:      Re: Metallica Concert
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>I saw the Cleveland/Akron show as well.  There was alot of goofing around
>and the Richfield coliseum is a hell hole soundwise.  The band was ok.  It's
>kind of wierd to see hetfield smile so much.  It's amazing what a little
>finacial success will do to your attitude.  They also did "stone Cold Crazy"
>which was cool.
> Rip, Jon
   Speeking of poor sound in the area, I saw my first show at the infamous
JAR arena on the beutiful Akron U Campus NOT!  I saw TESLA who put on a good
show considering, A) It was way to hot and they had the heat on B) The
seating sucks (especially the wondeful bleacher section. C) The sound is
awful.  But what should I expect from a basketball arena.

John                Jdolina%oscs@onet.edu
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:55:16 EST
From:         CW06GST <CW06GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Peter Hammill in Utrecht/review

     As a new composer myself I have the same fears as you.  I think
that in order to stay fresh/honest/from the toes, you have to change
your style.  The problem with this is that if you become very popular
doing one type of music it is very hard to tell the fans/the agents/the
record companies to go fuck themselves.  Although this is only a problem
if you become successful.  One artist who was able to make quality music
for most of his career by changing his style is Miles Davis.  He played
the music he wanted to play, but he was not always very popular.

     I'm not very familiar with Pete Hamill, but the way you descibed
him has gotten me very interested.  Are there any albums that you could
recommend?  Are they available in the US?

                                        <<EZ>>
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:47:29 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Yellow is the color of my true love's hair
              15 Apr 1992 11:40:30 MDT from <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>

On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:40:30 MDT not waving but drowning... said:
>
>BTW: Scooter Hammer, congrats on your marriage!  So tell us... what cheesy
>song did you two pick for your first dance?  :)  You guys would never guess
>what mine was...  :)
>
We chose a medley of two tunes by another King of Cheese, the venerable
Harry Connick, Jr., "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" and "It Had To Be You."
Pretty cheesy, huh?

Which reminds me of the slightly naught verse to "Don't Get Around Much
Anymore" that my mother taught me:

Missed the toilet last night
Went all over the floor
Cleaned it up with my toothbrush
Don't use my toothbrush anymore

Happy Cheese,

-Scott "Feeling Silly Today" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:04:09 EDT
From:         Ace <WP921051@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Black Crowes

At my radio station on Monday, during my show, we got the new Black Crowes
single "Remedy", so I was forced to play it.  I liked it quite a bit, as it
sounded a lot like _Shake_...., but then I started thinking.  It sounds too
much like their last album (At least from what I heard of it, I don't have the
album) and shows no musical progression.  On the other hand, however, you could
 always say, "If something feels good, why change it?" (Nothing from you,
Carol)  For now, it's tolerable, and in fact enjoyable to listen to, but if all
 their songs are going ot sound the same, then I'd just as soon listen to
Men At Work ad infinitum.  Just my {sic} too sense...

Latle...........................
                                Ace
"I do these interviews and people ask me, 'How come you can write all
  that sensitive stuff and then write all that trash?' and I tell them
  'Well, I can be real sensitive on occaision and be real trashy on
    others.'" -Jimmy Buffet
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:49:40 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      for your love
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  Yes, it was "For Your Love" that chased Clapton out of the Yardbirds.
But not without a passing shot.  He demanded that the song include a
blues-shuffle thing in the middle.  We've gotten used to hearing that
little section in the song, but it really doesn't fit all that well.  I
guess Clapton only played guitar on that part of the song too; Beck did
the rest of the song.

Russ
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:30:35 BST
From:         CCT018@PRIME-A.TEES-POLY.AC.UK
Subject:      Metal,Metal and yet more metal....

My Top "metal" songs would be....


Motorhead - Iron Fist.

Metallica - Fade to black.

AC/DC - Dirty Deeds.

Judas Priest - Breaking The Law.

Iron Maiden - Run to the hills.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Are Metallica touring the UK this autumn - if not they should be - they
got just a good (if not better) recerption than ACDC at Donnington last
year.

Everyone's takin' the piss outa me at the moment cos they reckon I look
like Geoff Tate from Queensryche - I HATE Queensryche.....

^The Fluff^
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:44:51 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Metal Lists
              10 Apr 1992 12:37:00 EDT from <JL_BOBROWITZ@ACAD.FANDM.EDU>

Ok this is going to be hard....

5. For Whom the Bell Tolls : METALLICA

4. Helter Skelter          : The Now Defunct Motley Crue

3. Seek And Destroy        : METALLICA

2. Looks That Kill         : The Now Defunct Motley Crue

1. Shout At The Devil      : The Now Defunct Motley Crue



About the Crue, My friend told me he heard on the Radio the other day that
they have officially BROKEN UP COMPLETELY.

I don't know if there is any truth to this or not.

Any Comments?
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From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET

Sorry  about that last message.  I wanted to respond to the comment about Dr.
Demento.  I have a  video with Dr. D's top 5 videos on it.  It's got some great
ones like "FishHeads", "I Wanna Be a Lifeguard", and " The Homecoming Queen's
Got A Gun".  I was just recently introduced to him and I wish that he was on
still.



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From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: LPS FOR SALE!

hi, I have 2 questions.... First, what popular song did April Wine sing?
and second, is there an album/CD with Eric Clapton's newer version of After "Aft
   er
Midnight"?

                        Thanks,

                        Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:26:58 CST
From:         Arturo Sanchez <txmrtur@TXM.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      David Lee Roth songs in Spanish
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Can anybody help this guy? He is not in the list,
so try to reply with a copy to his personal mail.
Thnx! / Arturo

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From: zippy@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: David Lee Roth songs in Spanish
Summary: looking for Spanish versions of David Lee Roth songs
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:16:16 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

A friend of mine is looking for Spanish versions of songs by David
Lee Roth (with Roth doing the singing in Spanish, that is).

He has tried to order these in the USA, but has been unable to find
them in any catalogs.

If you have information on where these songs can be found, or if
you're willing to bootleg them (assuming that they can't be had by
legal means), please email a reply and I'll forward the information.

Thanks in advance.

--Pat
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 08:18:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: Lou Reed Box Set

>From:         TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET

>     All I know of the Lou Reed Box Set is what I remember reading in Rolling
>Stone an issue or two ago. I believe that most of the live stuff is previously
>unreleased. I do remember reading that "Heroin" was a live performance from 76
>or 78, was about 20 minutes long and featured Don Cherry on trumpet (probably
>pocket trumpet), but that's all I can remember.

Thank you, Tom, thank you, thank you!  You have just convinced me that I
should buy the set today.  I've heard a radio broadcast of one of the shows
Don Cherry sat in on.  (I think he may have played on as many as four
during that tour.)  Very, very different from what one would expect but
lovely, lovely music.  I had forgotten to even hope for any of the Don
Cherry material to show up.

>     On a related note: Has anybody heard Songs For Drella, which is Lou Reed's
>and John Cale's requiem for Andy Warhol? I happen to love the album which has
>grown quite a bit on me. After having listened to it, I feel a great sense of
>them having known Warhol quite well, and I even feel like I know him alot
>better as a person - only from the music. Anybody else???

I suggest you try the videotape of Songs for Drella.  It's a very straight
forward video; just Lou and John playing the album, but I feel that just
being able to watch the musicians adds a lot.  And it's great fun to watch
Lou wringing out his guitar strings.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:22:42 EDT
From:         Jennifer.L.Sekelsky@DARTMOUTH.EDU
Subject:      re: Sony portables
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu

>The Sony portables don't last long enough-- mine started to mis-track within
2
>years, and I was pissed. The teensy little headphone jacks are also
notorious
>for their failure rate. I'm never going to buy another-- if I want
>music-to-go, I'll dub a cassette.

" I must agree here. I own one of those Sony portable CD players. If you so
much
 as breathe on hit heavy, it will skip. Don't even THINK about buying one of
 these to use in your car. The funny part is that mine came with a strap so
you
 can use it to go jogging or something...yeah right!!...and yes my headphone
 jack is real flakey also."
############################
 Are you people all talking about the Sony Discman? 'Cause I have one of
those and I've never had any sort of a problem with it. Admittedly I haven't
had it for all that long (since last Christmas - over a year) but that's
still pretty long. It does skip fairly easily, so I wouldn't use it to go
jogging either, but it's not so bad if you don't have a..."high class" system
(meaning a boom box type deal rather than a stereo system) If you can get
something better go for it, but this one hasn't proven to be too bad for me
yet.   -Jenn

p.s. to contribute to the "selling out" discussion that's sort of being
started by the Nirvana conversation: Yes it is really annoying for a real
long time fan of a band and for the band itself to have to deal with the
bandwagoner idiots who latch on to a song like "Smells like Teen Spirit" and
play it to death, but you shouldn't hate the band. They're just trying to
reach a larger audience and maybe, just maybe, make some money while they're
at it. For every few idiots who think they like Nirvana, there's probably a
few people like me who actually like that type of music but would never get
to hear it if the band didn't "sell out" (CT resident hearing of a band from
Seattle otherwise? - Yeah right!)
From: muhmejh@kuusi.metla.fi (Mika Hekkanen)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.allmusic
Subject: Re: Metal list
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:19:23 GMT
Organization: Metsantutkimuslaitos

Here are my favourite 'metal' songs...

1. Ace of Spades by Mot|rhead
2. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath by Black Sabbath
3. Hells Bells by AC/DC
4. Anarchy in the UK by Sex Pistols (yes, IMHO that IS metal)
5. Communication Breakdown by Led Zeppelin

	-Izzy-

* I don't need a signature line *
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From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Metal Lists
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>One thing, though- Genesis? For a metal/hard rock list? I'm not quite

MHB was kidding around when he listed those.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:18:41 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      fear of music (fwd)
X-To:         Music Discussion <allmusic@auvm.american.edu>

Forwarded message:


> From: Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
> Subject:      fear of music
>
>   Ok, here's one for you philosophers/anthropologists.  My 3 year old likes
> to "play" "music" in my cellar studio.  She plays drums, keyboards, and
> sings.  She'd play guitar too, but it's too big for her.  The other day
> I decided to run the cheesy keyboard through a relatively hi-tech effects
> box, and got some very interesting sounds.  I would categorize them
> as "spooky".  They scared my daughter and she high-tailed it back upstairs.


>
>    Now, how did she know to be afraid of those sounds?

My opinion is that:

			1. These sounds are powerful and unknown (If
			   one only listens to Sesame Street) and unknown
			   power always induces fear.


>  So why did she decide that the
> "spooky" music was stuff to get away from?  Why do *I* call it spooky?

Hey, it's scary stuff!


-Headbanger
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