HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Possible UL alert(was Re: Videotaping rapes)
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:28:55 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Sep28.140620.4870@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin
Fairbairns) writes:

>I never encountered one that was base-8 (except in the arrangement of
>its order code, though there were several that were explicitly
>(hardware) base-10 - i.e., there were decimal counter circuits in the
>memory.  Of course, the first examples of such things were mechanical
>calculators, including Babbage's engines.

And, of course, we can't forget the good 'ol Timex-Sinclair computer who's
hardware was done in base-10...  The good 'ol TI-99 computer...  And I remember
when it was a common computer to be bought, and the C64 just came out onto the
market...  (Okay, so I'm dating my youth here...)

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From: jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: dirty tricks
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:09:32 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <WMPERRY.92Oct3215911@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> wmperry@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (William Michael Perry) writes:
>   This happens all the time here at Indiana University.  Another
>thing thats fun to do is make xeyes pop up (with no resize bars or
>close options) in a window as large as the screen at 0,0.  Since it
>shows up on top, they can't get to their root windows.  Unless they
>have a function key defined to f.destroy, they are a little screwed.
>   Other fun things to do are:
[general nastiness deleted]




A friend of mine found great amusement in popping up embarrasing 
gifs with x-gif onto the display of a comp-sci professor who
was using a overhead projecting monitor in front of a computer
science class of a hundred students...

jem.

-- 
Jonathan Magid     jem@sunsite.unc.edu       SunSite Administrator
Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
----------------------------------------FREE!!!-----------------------
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Mean-looking iron: design decision or just cool stuff?
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:32:20 GMT
Organization: Electronic Data Systems, Unigraphics Division, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: rivero

In article <BvDKvs.M5q@rice.edu>, dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes) writes:
> I just got my first look at the poster photos of a CM-5 --
> Thinking Machine's latest super-powered warp-accelerated widget.
> My first thought was: 
> 
>   "Damn, that machine looks *mean*."
> 
> I had a similar reaction to the CM2. Since a lot of the Thinking
> Machines folks hang out here, can you tell us whether this is an
> intentional design feature, or does it just happen this way?

  I worked briefly for a companby which owned a CM-2. While it's a fantastic
machine, it was ill suited for the particular task at hand and seemed to have
been bought as much for the impression it made on clients as anything else.

  We had a German film crew come through to do a documentary on the work we
were doing, and the first thing they said when they saw the CM-2 was," Das is
der WHOPPER!"; the movie,"Wargames" having just recently opened in Germany!

  
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|  Michael Rivero        rivero@dev8j.mdcbbs.com     "A Human's Human!"  |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|                       I CAME,  I SAW,  I DIVORCED                      |
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: REQUEST: net.celebrities listing
Keywords: had it, lost it
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:25:53 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

I recently promised someone I'd forward them the net.celebrities listing, only
to find that my copy has disappeared.  (Guess I mistakenly deleted it at some
time in the past.)  I checked archie, but it doesn't know where to find it.
Can someone point me in the direction of an ftp site for the list? 

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: How *NOT* to do backups
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:00:06 GMT


|>Here's a story from the UK which happened about 2 years ago.
|>
|>There was a certain college in London which employed an operator to do
|>simple nightly backups of a UNIX system.  At the interview the guy said
|>he knew just how to do it all "with his eyes closed".  Given this, the
|>college employed him immediately.
|>
|>After a few weeks, one of the hard disks had a serious fault - one of
|>the disks flew off its mountings and smashed into the inside of the
|>cabinet.  A new drive was ordered and when this arrived the sysop
|>personally took charge of restoring all the lost data from the backup
|>tapes.  The backup tapes sat on their shelves just waiting to be used.
|>
|>Anyway, the up-shot was that the operator they had employed hadn't the 
|>foggiest idea how to do a backup and was simply putting BLANK tapes on the
|>rack and ticking off the "backups done" list.  Result - loads of important
|>research data lost and fairly prompt dismisssal for said "operator".

What you mean you can't do:-

DIRECTORY /DATE=BACKUP

on your system to find out when the last backup was done?


I bet Aegis could have done it. They seemed to have the right idea when they
wrote that system. - steal as much of VMS as was not bolted down then take bolt
cutters to remove the rest.

Pity the thanks they got for doing that was being closed down by HP.

Irony is that we now start to here that DFS is the wave of the future and we
will now get all sorts of goodies such as Access Control Lists that "we never
had before" - last quote was from a plenary talk at a computing conference I
went to a few weeks back.

The future of UNIX will be roughly :-

1) Replace the kernel,
	Need a multithreaded kernel such as MACH or a microkernel.

2) Replace the filestore,
	NFS has severe semantics problems which prevent its use in secure and critical
environments, so DFS (Also knon as Andrews File System 4.0) will replace it.

3) Replace the shell,
	it is an abortion. It combines the very worst elements of C hackery with the
user friendliness of raw JCL.

Question: If you take an axe and replace the head, then later replace the shaft,
is it still the same Axe?


Phill Hallam-Baker
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: sbakerjr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: VHS vs BETA
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:18:09 GMT

VHS may well have a longer play or record time but what about the 10% drift
in timing that VHS systems produce ?

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From: aevans@nmt.edu (Alex Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.0s9,comp.sys.m6809,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc
Subject: Motorola Four-Phase Systems S2000
Summary: What do you know?
Keywords: Motorola
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:18:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmt.1992Oct4.191840.2048
Followup-To: aevans@titan.nmt.edu
Organization: New Mexico Tech

Hello all,
  I just got another dusty old computer, this one is a Motorola Phase-Four
Systems S2000.  I also got two Motorola codex terminals with it.  What can
you all tell me about this beast.

-- 
Theodore (Alex) Evans aka Alexei Vnebrachnei Ivanovitch
MOL College of St. Golias     | Free computer, where, when, how
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:14707 rec.games.int-fiction:403
From: bblumenf@ems.cdc.com (Robert Blumenfeld)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.games.int-fiction
Subject: Re: Screen colors (Was Re: Zork/Dungeon)
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:24:06 GMT
Reply-To: bblumenf@ems.cdc.com
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Ceridian

In article <xeno.717995360@pv34ad.vincent.iastate.edu>, xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen) writes:
|> In <1992Oct1.215954.1465@ukw.uucp> lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
|> 
|> >nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen) writes:
|> 
|> >>In article <1992Sep30.125808.15973@husc3.harvard.edu>
|> >>goodridg@husc8.harvard.edu (Andrew Goodridge) writes:
|> 
|> >>[...]
|> >>> My problem is my youth. I'm only 22; I was 7 or 8 when Zork was
|> >>> worked on.  I'm not very regretful; I got to see 16 million colors
|> >>> before I was 19.  But it means I'm starting at a disadvantage.
|> 
|> >>(Sorry, pet peeve:)
|> 
|> >>Where did you see 16 million colors? Not on *one* screen at a time, I
|> >>suppose, or I'd like to see that screen.
|> 
|> >Maybe he just went outside? :-P
|> 
|> Hmmm... First I was going to question why you suspected this was
|> unbelievable... since 24 bit graphics (16 million colors) has been around
|> for a long time...  But now it hits me...
|> 
|> That would be 4096 x 4096 resolution...  Pretty snazzy monitor!
|> 

Gee, I just interpreted his claim in the way sociologists report that
by the age of 10 a typical American child has seen x-thousand murders
on TV.  I mean, a hundred colors here, a hundred colors there -- it
all adds up.

-- Bob
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: stev0@sti.com (Steve Berlin)
Subject: Cliff Stoll live in concert!
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.
Distribution: U.S.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:10:09 GMT

Attention!

Cliff Stoll, author of "The Cuckoo's Egg", will be appearing on the NPR
radio show "West Coast Weekend" on October 17th.

For those in the SF area, it will be broadcast on KQED (88.5 FM) the 17th
at 11:00 AM (live) and again at 8:00 PM (Not live).  If you want to see this
fun show in person, call (415) 553-2213.  Tickets are $10.00 in advance,
$8.00 day of the show (yes, it is LESS if you show up in person!)

This show is also heard in Philidelphia (I don't know the station), and
maybe New York City area..

- Stev0

________________________________________ ___I_`.*.'_B_ __________"I just know 
       Steve Berlin               .   K +  * .o   o.* `.`O +.   |that some-
       stev0@sti.com             '   *  . ' ' |\^/|  `. * .  *  |thing good 
[Rush quote removed from      (: May All Your  \V/  Good Dreams |is gonna 
 here. I have SOME taste.]    and Fine Wishes  /_\  Come True:) |happen!" -
============================================= _/ \_ ===========  Utah Saints
.sig (c) 1992 by Mike Jittlov [for all the protection that affords] 
.sig re-mixed by Stev0 (c) 1992 - extended warlord bait remix.
-- 
Stev0@sti.com
This is a kibo .signature virus.  Kibo's .sig file has now
been appended to yours.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: "Any" key
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:38:07 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: robm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu's message of Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:14:29 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:14:29 GMT, robm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Rob McCool) said:

> Speaking of that, I always get a kick out of taking the keyboard off of the
>   computer completely, and trying to boot, with the message "Keyboard error,
>   press <F1> to resume".... as if I'm going to be able to press F1 without 
>   the keyboard.

So pressing it proves you've fixed the error, so its ok to resume, yes?

--
Alan Braggins, Shape Data (A Division of EDS Ltd), Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
From: jpb@globule.cam.org (Zebigbos)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: dirty tricks
Date: 25 Sep 92 22:21:35 GMT
Organization: Secte des Adorateurs des Semiconducteurs
X-Newsreader: MeNews 2.7.0

[ vijay@cdsun.fnal.gov (Vijay Gurbani) writes in article <vijay.717264867@cdsun.fnal.gov>: ]
:
:I remember back in college, this was a _great_ way to get cheap thrills:
:
:  1. find an unsuspecting victim who has left his/her terminal unattended
:  2. modify his/her .profile to include 'mesg y' or for quicker turnaround
:     time, type 'mesg y' in his/her shell
:  3. wait for him/her to come back
:  4. start spewing messages like (one of the milder ones):
:
:         Message from big-brother@foobar on ttyp3 11:17
:
:         Quit hogging the terminal and use less disk space if possible!
:         Better yet, don't log on at all!
:

We did something similar.

If the person was logged on by modem, we would send "+++" to his tty which
would hang up the university's modem.

If the person was in a course, we would send tons of "^G" (Bells) to her
terminal.  Sort of embarassing to the victim.

--
|-------------------- Deciding wether you commit suicide is one of the most
|jpb@globule.CAM.ORG| important decisions a teenager can make.
--------------------|                   (Heathers)
From: ardtlong@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Dale T. Long)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Help needed with IBM PC set up...
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:41:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: adam.adelaide.edu.au


I am having trouble with a new EGA display card. The computer in question
is a Quadtel 80286 based machine (HT12 processor and 1 Meg of memory).
It uses an 8 bit card driving two Segate ST255 hard drives and a 'CA8392'
AT multi I/O card (IDE port disabled, FDD, 2 COMs ports, a printer port
and a joy stick port). All works fine with the original CGA card I use.
Now when I swap the CGA card for the EGA card (a VT 'video technology?' card)
I get a 'Parity error 2 0000'. This is in 'auto detect' mode. When I set it
to be a CGA card it works fine. When I set it to be an EGA card (via dip
switches) it seems to work. Text display is fine. However, when I use
high resolution graphics such as in various games or the graphics mode of
DOS SHELL 5.0 the machine locks up after about one to five minutes. It
did this once with a text program as well (40x25). This is with virtually
every program I have tested. After much card removal and card function
disabling I found that this problem did not occur if the FDD part of the
multi function board/card was disabled. The FDD controler part of the m/f
card must conflict with the EGA card. The EGA auto detect would work fine
(no parity error) with the FDD controler disabled. There must be a conflict
in I/O lines or ROM/RAM space required. I find this very frustrating.
I cannot effectively use the EGA card and my floppy drives at the save time.
Is there a way to fix this dilema? Has this problem happened to anyone else?
Is it usual for a FDD controler and EGA card to conflict?

                                Thank you in advance.


Dale Long.
ardtlong@adam.adelaide.edu.au
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From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Possible UL alert(was Re: Videotaping rapes)
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Sep30.074733.29955@news.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:
>This worked pretty well, until I needed to count really large numbers.  I then
>switched to binary, and found that I could get up to 4095 if I used the heels
>of both hands as additional bits.  If I needed to go above 4095, I carried to
>eyes, mouth, clenching and unclenching toes, and so on.  I recall that once,
>while my father was in a meeting and I was waiting in a reception area with
>nothing to do, I counted up to 16383.

He would have gotten higer, but all the twitching, grimacing, blinking and
jerking around caused somebody to call the hospital and have 'em carted
away...

Sorry Seth, couldn't resist (8-)


kbq

--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
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From: phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Floor numbering
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:02:09 GMT
Reply-To: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au


In article <1992Sep24.213227.20362@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
> It might perhaps be pointed out for the overseas readers that the owners
> and managers of large buildings in North America *love* to call the 1st
> floor (i.e. the ground floor, here) something other than 1.  In our elevators,
> the next thing after 4, 3, 2 *might* be 1, but more commonly it is
> either M for Main, L for Lobby, or G for Ground.  And the thing after
> *that*, while most commonly B for Basement, is also L for Lower, or
> C for Concourse; I have also occasionally seen 0 (zero), -1 (minus 1,
> zero being skipped as in AD/BC years), A for Arcade, and Pn for some
> digit n meaning nth parking level.

In the last couple of years, we have had a new Myer store (large department
store) built in Adelaide.  The floor numbering goes (from memory):

      ...
       3
       2
       T        Terrace
       R        Rundle  (The name of the Mall the store is on)
       P        Plaza
       C1       Carpark 1
       C2       Carpark 2
      ...

I have always wondered why?  Is numbering from 0..n too hard for them?


Regards,
Phil.

--
   _-_|\    Phil Kernick                        "Sleep all day,
  /     \   University of Adelaide               Party all night,
  \_.-*_/   E-Mail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au    It's fun to be a
       v    Phone:  +61 8 228 5914               Vampire!"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler)
Subject: Re: Lillith
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:25:31 GMT

person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:

>Whatever happened to Wirth's Lillith machine that Pournelle was
>forever writing about in the  early to mid-80's 

>I know it was just Pournelle, but the blurbs he wrote about the
>machine made it sound real interesting. 
>-- 
>Brett Person
>Guest Account	
>North Dakota State University
>person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
>"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to loose"

I don't know what's happend to it, but I do know an interesting piece of
trivia (folklore) associated with it.  I once had a computer architecture
class from Dr. Richard Oran (sp?) at BYU.  He studied under Wirth and was
involved with the development of the Lillith.  When asked where the name
came from, he said that the grad students had a pet name for Wirth (I wish
I could remember what it was).  When Wirth found out about it, he dubbed their
project the Lillith, as an act of vengance.  Apparently, according to Jewish
folklore, Lillith was the first woman.  However God forgot to give her a soul
so she turned out bad.  Later, He created Eve to correct His mistake.

********************************************************************************
*     Gary Fowler                     *     The storm starts when the drops    *
*     gfowler@esunix.sim.es.com       *     start dropping.  When the drops    *
*     Evans & Sutherland              *     stop dropping then the storm       *
*     600 Komas Drive                 *     starts stopping.                   *
*     Salt Lake City, UT              *     -Dr. Seuss                         *
********************************************************************************
From: billaud@greco-prog.fr (Michel BILLAUD)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: dirty tricks (was: The funniest bug)
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: billaud@geocub.UUCP (Michel BILLAUD)
Organization: LaBRI - Universite Bordeaux I - France

Last month I wrote a csh-script. Switching constantly between
MS-DOS ans UNIX, I started the script by:

#!\bin\csh
....
....

Just try to execute such a file ...
MB


-- 
Michel BILLAUD                 :  billaud@geocub.greco-prog.fr
Departement d'Informatique     :  phone W: 56.84.57.92  // 56.84.69.22
IUT "A", Universite Bordeaux I :  "Personne n'est exempt de dire des sottises.
33405 Talence  (FRANCE)        :   Le malheur est de les dire curieusement"
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From: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: You know when you're hacking too long when...
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:05:40 GMT
Reply-To: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep18.075936.20819@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> 9125113g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis) writes:
>Here at La Trobe, we have a CS lecturer who's internals must be in LISP.  
>Every five minutes, he freezes solid for about thirty seconds then 
>continues on as if nothing ever happened.
>
>We hypothesize that he's garbage collecting....

I think that he may be having petit mal seizures.  Next time he does this,
look through his pockets for anticonvulsants.


  / \ / \     Paul Stoufflet                          / \ / \
 |  / \  |    Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center   |  / \  |
 |  \ /  |    internet: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu  |  \ /  |
  \_/_\_/     All opinions are my own                 \_/_\_/ 
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,talk.bizarre
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:46:53 -0400 
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: You know when you're hacking too long when...
	<BvAF46.sC@fulcrum.bt.co.uk>

your fortran complier returns an error that reads something like
undefined function in line 137 %/% malloc(
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: sbakerjr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: 26346
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:26:39 GMT

Christpher Jam at the UWA computer club reckons that PC stands for Purple 
Cabbage.

I thought it stood for Performance Compromise.

Still, they go better than the minicomputer they scammed off the local 
hospital.

What make of machine was it anyway?  I was a member of the UWA club a few 
years ago and I distinctly remember a dinosaur filling 90% of the room...


J.Baker.


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen)
Subject: Re: Quiche Eaters and Fortran
Reply-To: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de
Organization: STONE Project, Technical University of Berlin, Germany
	<1992Sep28.102853.2138@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au>,<1992Sep28.095636.5767@newstand.syr.edu>
	<009614E6.C31EAF00@vms.csd.mu.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:35:33 GMT

In article <009614E6.C31EAF00@vms.csd.mu.edu>
2429oconnorw@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

> In article <1992Sep28.095636.5767@newstand.syr.edu>, wethater@rodan.acs.syr.edu (William E. Thater) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep28.102853.2138@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie) writes:
[...]
> >	Yes, but I *didn't* see it the first time, so could some kind
> >soul send it to me [wethater@mailbox.syr.edu]?
> >
> Same here.  Could someone send me a copy?  Please?

I put the text on coma.cs.tu-berlin.de:/pub/nickel/real.{tr,tex}

real.tr is prepared for formatting with troff (without a macro
package, of course, macro packages are for whimps!), real.tex for
LaTeX (hmm... isn't LaTeX like Pascal?)

--
Juergen Nickelsen
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