HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: haim@cs.technion.ac.il (Haim Roman)
Subject: Re: Sun, X11R5 and openwindows
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. Tech., Haifa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 12:17:15 GMT
Keywords: X11R5, Sun, OpenWindows

In article <1992Sep09.211513.19115@watson.ibm.com>, johndew@watson.ibm.com (John Dewysocki) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> We have upgraded to SunOs 4.1.2 and X11R5, my problem is that
|> I can't start up openwindows any more.  When I try to execute
|> openwin it complains in the following way, then dies:
|> 
|> Couldn't get base SunWindow
|> /usr/openwin/bin/xinit:  Connection refused (errno 61): unable to
|> connect to X server
|> 
|> I have all the correct env. variables set up correctly, the right
|> path ahead of /usr/bin/X11, and have been able to run
|> /usr/openwin/bin/xinit by itself (running olwm) w/out a problem.
|> 
|> It seems the problem is with xnews (which complains about the
|> base SunWindow - above).  Unfortunately, I do not have any
|> X11/NeWS literature to refer to.  Can anyone give me any
|> pointers?  Is this a X11R5/NeWS problem?
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> --
|> 
|>      ~    John    ~
|> |///////////\\\\\\\\\\\|

Egads, you too!?  I've noticed the same problem, but, because of the
particular circumstances, I assumed that we really munged some system
files.  Please post any answers you get to news.

Thank you.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: DESQview/X vs HCL-eXceed/W
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 18:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.130700.19713@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> tomanix@sintra.xip.dec.com (Antonio Rodrigues) writes:
>
>I' m also interested in some 'experienced' opinions on the DESQview/X.
>
>I saw the adv. in the Aug. DDJ and I become curios.
>
>
> tomanix

Come join us in the comp.os.msdos.desqview newsgroup for
more opinions than you can imagine.
My opinion, of course, is VERY positive in favor of DVX
:-]

Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,ba.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.sources.wanted
From: toml@marvin.Solbourne.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Subject: Re: Explicit mode TWM and Click-To-Type Window managers?
Reply-To: toml@solbourne.com
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc. 	
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:48:50 GMT

In article <72402@apple.Apple.COM>, myee@Apple.COM (Michael Yee) writes:
|> 	Also, if anyone knows of another public domain window manager that
|> 	supports Explicit focus, please let me know.  
|> 

How about ol(v)wm?

--
Tom LaStrange
ParcPlace Boulder
toml@Solbourne.COM  (for a while longer at this address)
From: hz231gr@unidui.uni-duisburg.de (Paul-Gerhard Gressel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11-Term-Emulator for PC, Mac (free)
Date: 14 Sep 1992 11:58:54 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH
NNTP-Posting-Host: unidui.uni-duisburg.de
Summary: Search X11-Emulator for PC or Mac
Keywords: X11, Mac, PC

Hallo,

I'm searching a free! X11-Term-Emulator for PC oder Mac-OS
over TCP/IP.

Please mail to me - out newssystem is a little bit 
"confusend".

Thanks

Paul-Gerhard
From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.COM (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Where does SIGUSR1 come from?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:30:33 GMT
Organization: The Internet


> Subject: Where does SIGUSR1 come from?
> 
> I recently compiled xfishtank from export...one of the command line options is
> '-s' for secure mode toggle.  When started in this mode the fishtank covers
> all windows rather than being a background.  According to the source code the
> window will go to the background upon receiving SIGUSR1.  What event will
> cause SIGUSR1?  I assume it is some sort of mouse or keyboard action, but
> there is no other reference to it in the source code except as part of the
> signal handler.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Sheppard
> 
 An easy way to do it is to type

 % kill -USR1 pid

where pid is the process id of your xfishtank that you find by typing 

 % ps

 A very good reference for Signals is

 "Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment" by 
 W. Richard Stevens. Published by Addison Wesley 1992.
 Sinan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU (Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville)
Subject: Transparent windows
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:31:59 GMT


How are transparent window backgrounds created and/or implemented.
Is there a color index for transparent colors.  Where is a good 
source of documentation concerning this?

Thanks in advance.

Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:16667 comp.windows.x.apps:1037
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Can anyone tell me about Xprinter?
From: sands@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Greg Sands)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:44:14 GMT
Reply-To: g.sands@aukuni.ac.nz
Organization: University of Auckland
Keywords: Xprinter

Some time ago, I saw a posting regarding a product called Xprinter
which seemed to allow one to write to a postscript printer using
Xlib-type calls.  Can anyone fill me in on the details of this
product, specifically what it can do, and where I can get it from?
Also any user comments would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Greg.
-- 
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-----------                           |  University of Auckland           
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:16705 ba.windows.x:116 comp.windows.x.apps:1043 comp.sources.wanted:4348
From: myee@Apple.COM (Michael Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,ba.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Explicit mode TWM and Click-To-Type Window managers?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:42:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


	Has anyone modified TWM to fully support Explicit focus (i.e.
	Click-to-type focus)?  If so, can you please send or post the
	diffs.  I would greatly appreciate it.  I have been working on
	adding Explicit focus support to TWM, and have found that it was
	not quite a trivial task.

	Also, if anyone knows of another public domain window manager that
	supports Explicit focus, please let me know.  


	Many thanks,

	=Mike

-- 
Michael K. Yee	<myee@apple.com>
A/UX Desktop Engineering 
"Live simply so that others may simply live."
From: goodsenj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (John Goodsen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X Consultants List
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:36:14 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute

would some kind soul email the X consultants list
to the following 2 email addresses?  thanks in advance


mitchell\!lyoung@sea.com
mitchell\!bridges@sea.com
mitchell\!jgg@sea.com

-- 
John Goodsen                              Ada Joint Program Office
jgg@evb.com                               PCIS Programme
800-877-1815                              goodsenj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu
From: shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC])
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: GIF library
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:25:41 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: shirley@fdr


I am looking for a GIF library that will read a gif file and
load it into an X Pixmap.

Is there such a beast?

speed is important.
multiple images will be loaded.
effective use of colormap is important.
resolution of quntization a plus, but I could ensure that pictures
	contain less than N (~100) colors.

Where can I locate this? (ftp site)
-- 
Bill Shirley		|  ``Computer Science is not about computers any 
shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov|	more than astronomy is about telescopes.''
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: martin@real.jccbi.GOV ("Sam Martin, DOT/FAA, Training Systems Branch")
Subject: please unsubscribe me
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:38:17 GMT

Please unsubscribe me.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: misek@solbourne.com (Steve Misek)
Subject: Re: Tree Layout/Display Algorithm(?)
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:33:33 GMT


 :: 
 :: Did anybody come across an article about (or source  code of :) an
 :: algorithm that allows efficient layout/display/editing of a grahical
 :: presentation of a tree-like structures in the window?
 :: 

Yes, the July 1990 copy of IEEE Software had a fascinating article on
that subject by Sven Moen, Brown University.

	Drawing Dynamic Trees
	Sven Moen
	Brown University
	July 1990
	IEEE Software.

hope this helps.

steve
misek@solbourne.com

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: hubertc@cs.berkeley.edu (Hung-Hsien (Hubert) Chang)
Subject: Xdvi on HP machine: screw up
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:21:37 GMT

We have a cluster with several  HP Apollo Series 700 machines
and there is one complied "xdvi" but it works terribly bad.
I believe there is some option which has to be fixed but would 
rathe have a quick response from experienced people rather
than reading all the specification.

It looked like this way: when we use xdvi filname.dvi 
it will show us ( suppose the foreground is black )
boxes of black boxes with white character inside. 
It look normal when using the Shrink 1 option. But 
the rest is just horrible.

Any fix as to how to recomplie?

thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: italics in xterms - possibly a FAQ
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 06:52:30 GMT

In article <smr.715427435@hitkw14>, smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm) writes:

> As a WISH, I would like to know if it is posible to get xterm to use
> normal, bold and italicised fonts, and possibly even italicised bold!

I don't know.

> or perhaps there is another version of xterm running which handles
> these extensions ( X11R5 perhaps?? we only have R4 )

It's not xterm, but mterm does italics properly if you have an italic
font available.  (It uses XLFD names to try to find an appropriate
italic font; if this won't work you'll have to tell it what name to
use.)  You will need to tell it to use ansi (or decansi) emulation.

But note that this may not help, because the program that is doing the
printing (probably "more" in the case of man) may be converting the
italics to reverse video, in which case the terminal emulator has no
way of knowing the difference.

(mterm is up for anonymous ftp, larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (132.206.1.1),
cd /X/mterm.src, get mterm.README and read it.  I can also mail it.)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: Questions regarding TVTWM
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 06:12:00 GMT

In article <huber.15.715359892@vax2.gac.edu>, huber@vax2.gac.edu (Tom Huber) writes:

> I am running TVTWM under X11R4 on a NeXT

> I was wondering how to set the root window to grey (rather than the
> default tiled background with TVTWM?  Before loading TVTWM, I can use
> xsetroot -grey  , however once TVTWM loads it overwrites it with the
> default background and further calls to xsetroot have no effect.

(I assume you mean tvtwm rather than TVTWM.)  tvtwm is implemented with
a so-called virtual root window, implemented in such a way that one
consequence is that the root window is no longer the visual background
of the screen.  IMO the right solution is to fix tvtwm, but the way out
usually taken is to hack on programs that manipulate the root window
and add kludges to find the tvtwm-created window that serves as the
visual background of the screen, and manipulate that window instead.
(Maybe you can tell; I don't like this.  Client programs shouldn't have
to know about this sort of thing.  From what little I know, there are
at least two different ways of identifying the pseudo-root, probably
with more to come along.  If the Consortium would standardize on some
way of finding the window that forms the visual background of the
screen, that would help....)

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Performance meter : where can I get it from ?
Organization: SETT Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:40:47 GMT


I need a good performance meter (CPU usuage and other things if
possible) for my solbourne. any recommendations are welcome (public
domain packages).

please respond by email.

thanks


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ajs@msdrl.com (Anthony Starks)
Subject: Transparent overlay client?
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:05:26 GMT

I'm looking for a X client that functions as a full-page transparent ruler.
Any takers?
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.apps
From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Subject: X11R5 - HELP!
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:49:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

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From: mark@telco-nac.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
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Status: R


I'm pulling my hair out trying to get X11R5 installed.  I could list 10
problems with my installation right now.  I don't know which of these
are the serious ones and which are minor.

I got the code (which I couldn't get my SPARC to compile) from an ftp
site.  Then I got compiled code from a cdrom which doesn`t seem to be
complete ( configuration files are missing ).

The docs and READMEs are no help.  For one thing the information
seems to be scattered amoung various files. 

Is there anywhere I can get clear, concise instructions on how to
install X11R5 on a Sun SPARC?

I've seen the ads for Ready To Run software (co) and am almost ready
to plop down my $300.  It's cost me easily that much in time so far.

Has anyone ever used them? Are they worth the extra $?

thanks
mark
From: ppeeters@is2.vub.ac.be (Philippe Peeters)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Xserver for SONY NWS-3410
Keywords: X11R5,Xserver
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:12:10 GMT
Organization: Brussels Free University (VUB/ULB)

Hello everybody,

I'm seeking for the source code of the X11R5 Xserver for a Sony NWS-3410
(8 bits color and monochrome).
Can anybody tell me where to find it ?
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:16563 comp.human-factors:2191
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 11 Sep 1992 19:02:32 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Sep11.023749.14831@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>But the rabid GUI types don't use the keyboard for anything *except*
>text in the WP.  I'm talking about (say) selecting "Save" from a menu,
>versus (say) typing control-X control-Q.

This is a gross misrepresentation of the state of the industry.  Almost all
GUIs provide keyboard accelerators for menu commands, and many allow power
users to customize them.  On my Mac I rarely use the "Save" and "Quit"
commands from a menu, I usually type Command-S and Command-Q.  Motif and MS
Windows also provide keyboard accelerators.  Open Look seems to be the only
major GUI that doesn't provide them as a standard feature (although I doubt
it prohibits them).
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,ba.windows.x,misc.books.technical,comp.windows.misc
From: teo@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Patrick ChengSan Teo)
Subject: Drawing Ellipses in X
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:36:12 GMT


Hi,

I need to draw ellipses in X which do not have their major/minor
axes necessarily aligned with the coordinate axis.  Is there a way?
The Xlib functions XDrawArc() assumes such an alignment.  Has anybody
found an alternative solution that doesn't involve tesselating the
ellipse into a polygon?

Thanks,
Patrick

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Department of Computer Science                     
Stanford University                                

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
-- Albert Einstein
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From: taylor@foraker.tivoli.com (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Transparent windows
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:55:23 GMT
Organization: TIVOLI Systems, Inc.

In article <9209081631.AA04622@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>, ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU (Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville) writes:
|> 
|> How are transparent window backgrounds created and/or implemented.
|> Is there a color index for transparent colors.  Where is a good 
|> source of documentation concerning this?


There are no transparent windows in X or transparent colors :-(
There are, however :
	shaped windows
	windows with no background

The last is rather misleading and usually useless.
A window with no background merely gets the values of pixels that were
already there.

Shaped windows are not well documented.  In fact, the last I checked,
there were no man pages :-(.  The header files, src, and example programs
seem to be the only documentation.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Re: Need OpenWindows 3.0-compatible olvwm
Originator: marc@hemlock
Keywords: window manager
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:25:14 CDT


There is a v3 compatible olvwm at export.lcs.mit.edu in the /contrib directory.
It's up to version 3.2, I think.  I have it and it works fine with OW 3.0.

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]
From: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us (There is no substitute for displacement...)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Can you run X over a serial line?
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:21:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Not Organized

In article <5649@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> mark@ucsb.edu writes:
>Has anyone out there experimented with running an X application on a SPARC 2
>using modems?  My boss wants me to connect a pair of SPARCs together with a pair
>of 19.2K modems using ppp.  My first thought is that there isn't enough
>bandwidth.  Any thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark Probert

There isn't enough bandwidth for anything like normal performance, but it 
can be done.  We have run X over 9600 baud lines (via a stat mux, yet!).

A better answer would be to use XRemote - an x protocol designed 
specially for low-bandwith serial connections.  XRemote was written by 
NCD for their X terminals, but they donated a version to the Consortium, 
so it should appear RSN.  It is available now for pay from NCD.

bob

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: rfrazier%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Robert Frazier)
Subject: pixmap editor
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:51:35 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: World

	I am interested in a simple color pixmap/bitmap editor.  Any info
will be greatly appreciated.

	



	R. Todd Frazier
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:16285 comp.windows.misc:1358 comp.human-factors:2116
From: shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC])
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: XV and imglib
Date: 10 Sep 1992 22:33:49 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: shirley@fdr


I have added Img support to xv (for my own consumption).
If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll clean it up
at drop it on netland.

Also, here is an interesting (crude) benchmark I tried:



{shirley@fdr:44} time xv -root -rmode 5 -quit lyap78.gif
3.880u 1.060s 0:06.28 78.6% 0+962k 3+1io 3pf+0w
{shirley@fdr:45} time xv -root -rmode 5 -quit lyap78.img
1.700u 0.910s 0:03.87 67.4% 0+877k 0+0io 4pf+0w
{shirley@fdr:47} compress lyap78.img
lyap78.img: Compression: 75.25% -- replaced with lyap78.img.Z
{shirley@fdr:48} time xv -root -rmode 5 -quit lyap78.img.Z
3.210u 1.360s 0:06.20 73.7% 0+592k 20+20io 18pf+0w
{shirley@fdr:50} ll lyap78*
-rw-r--r--  1 shirley    149839 Aug 26 16:56 lyap78.gif
-rw-r--r--  1 shirley    119503 Sep  9 17:08 lyap78.img.Z
-rw-r--r--  1 shirley    480713 Sep  9 17:09 lyap78.img



  -bill
-- 
Bill Shirley            |  ``Computer Science is not about computers any 
shirley@fdr.jsc.nasa.gov|     more than astronomy is about telescopes.''
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norman G. Hoffman)
Subject: HELP: Where's the rest of xarchie?
Organization: Monsanto Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:11:59 GMT

I'm trying to get xarchie going so I can look for software on my own,
but I can't find all of it, so I have to post a message this time.

Here's what I found in 
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/usenet/comp.sources.x/volume14/xarchie:

ftp> ls -l
total 45
-rw-rw-r--  1 root        27693 Oct 11  1991 part01.Z
-rw-rw-r--  1 root        17550 Oct 11  1991 patch1.Z

After downloading & uncompressing both, then stripping the header from 
part01, I ran "sh part01".  It unpacked about 35 files, then said:

shar: End of archive 1 (of 8).
You still need to unpack the following archives:
	 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

The MANIFEST lists about 70 files, so obviously I don't have everything.

Where are part02.Z through part08.Z?  Am I supposed to unpack xarchie
on top of archie?  I've looked at the FAQ and other help files in 
news.answers and news.newusers.questions, but to no avail.
I've also checked the README files I unpacked from part01.

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong, or where I can go to get
all 8 parts?

Thanks,

Norm Hoffman
nghoff@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley)
Subject: Wordprocessor for SVR4
Organization: Home
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:45:23 GMT

Does anyone know of an X-based word processor that allows use of the mouse
to mark text and will show different fonts, underlining &c on a single page?

-- 
   Simon Langley                   (preferred)   slangley@constant.demon.co.uk
   Hampstead, London                             slangley@cix.compulink.co.uk
From: dhm2j@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Derek H. Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: X interface to RCS
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:14:36 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep7.195927.14072@oracle.pnl.gov> d3e129@cagle.pnl.gov (Rick A Kendall) writes:
>
>Does there exist such a product.  I have a summer student that wants to learn to do some x programming and we thought this might be a useful utility to have.
>Any information on the subject would be useful.  Thanks in advance.  
>
>Rick Kendall
>d3e129@pnlg.pnl.gov
>
>
>-- 
>=============================================================================
>===    Ricky A. Kendall  <internet: d3e129@pnlg.pnl.gov>                  ===
>===    Mail Stop K1-90                                                    ===
>===    Molecular Science Software Group                                   ===


I am also interested in such a beast. If anyone has an answer, could
you post the answer or send me mail and I will post a summary?

                            Derek H. Miller (Deke)
                            Principal Computer Systems Engineer
                            U. S. Postal Service Process Control Division
                            Address: dhm2j@virginia.edu