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From: yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Pulse Oximeters
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In article <1992Oct3.224551.29457@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Matthew.H.T.Fulton@dartmouth.edu (Matthew H. T. Fulton) writes:
> Any EMS people out there using pulse oximeters yet?  I understand 
> that they are available for BLS use, at least in New Jersey.  I
> don't know of any squads that have them.  Opinions, comments?
	Well Pulse oximeters are nice, no they are not implemented here in
New York City (NYC EMS) on BLS or ALS ambulances. Although having them
would be nice, I do not see the need for them. The standard protocols here
is everyone gets 100% Non Rebreather if complaint is non related to COPD.

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From: kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kenneth R Aron)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Duty to Act, take two
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:42:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University

Alright, since Dave's post has seemed to generate more questions
about what the hell he was talking about than answers, I'll try
again...

	We run crews of approximately three or four that scramble
to a centrally located ambulance.  Since our quarters is
basically a converted dorm room, we're not there often.  Since
the new OHSA regulations came about, one of our crew chiefs asked
Dave, our First Aid Chief, the following question:

	If I come across the pt. on my direct path to the
	ambulance and have no equipment whatsoever what am I 
	legally required to do?  

	The question is fairly easy for a minor call.  Wait for
everyone else to bring the ambulance.  The problem arises when
the hypothetical call is major bleeder or a code.  Now, I
personally solve this problem by carrying a hip holster with
basic supplies when I'm on duty.  Can anyone give us the
<<legal>> answer to the question.  Thanks.

	Ken

	E-mail Dave Weinreich at dave@division.cs.columbia.edu
		    or myself at kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu



	
Kenneth R. Aron                 NYS EMT-Defibrillation            | |  / /
kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu      Columbia Area Volunteer Ambulance | |/ / 
                                Columbia University, NYC          | |\ \
"EMTs do it with patience"                                        | |  \ \
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: jrcodl@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Vital Signs '92 Conference
Reply-To: jrcodl@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:30:16 GMT

I have been to this conference many times before and have never been 
disapointed.  Its great only wish I could be there this year.
John
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From: chinatti@burn.Princeton.EDU (Stephen Anthony Chinatti)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Scanners Also
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:35:47 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <EMERG-L%92100710040650@VM.MARIST.EDU> "Wm. Bryant Faust, IV" <WFAUST@NNOMED.BITNET> writes:
>
>Is there a discussion group on cellular phones??
>
This whole flame/thread should be located in alt.radio.scanner, there are
usually a couple of the "legality of listening to XXX" postings every time
I read that group.  Also, read the FAQ from that group, I believe that some
of the laws are cited in there

	Steve
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:28:07 EDT
From:         "(Matt Sullivan)" <matthews@LYNX.DAC.NORTHEASTERN.EDU>
Subject:      Abbreviations

Here is a partial list of both EMS and general Medical abbreviations. If
you want the whole list, please e-mail me. I'm posting just the top so
that you all can see how detailed it is before you 'order' it.


            _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
            |Matt Sullivan  Northeastern University 1996     |
            |Matthews@Lynx.CRC.northeastern.edu              |
            |MWS@maine.maine.edu   (Vacations Only)          |
            |_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-|
                      Go U.Maine Black Bear Hockey!



EMS/MEDICAL ABBRV.


ACLS  ADVANCED CARDIAC LIFE SUPPORT
ACU   ACUTE CARE UNIT
ADR   ADVERSE DRUG REACTION
AIDS  ACQUIRED IMMUNE DEFICIENCY SYNDROME
ALS   ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT
AMI   ACUTE MYOCARDIAL INFARCTION
APPY  APPENDECTOMY
ARD   ACUTE RESPIRATORY DISEASE
ARF   ACUTE RENAL FAILURE
ASC   ALTERED STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS
ASX   ASYMPTOMATIC
AV    ATRIOVENTRICULAR
BLS   BASIC LIFE SUPPORT
BOW   BAG OF WATERS
BP    BLOOD PRESSURE
BPM   BEATS PER MINUTE
BS    BLOOD SUGAR


Want more??
From: smk2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Scott M. Knauss)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fire Department Managment Program
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:07:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Does anybody currently use a computer program to track various fire company
activities such as personnel records, training records, inventory items?  If
so, was the program purhcased or home grown?  Thanks for any info!!
-- 
************************************************************************
Scott M. Knauss                     Phone: x84637
Purchasing Department                 Fax: x84783
203 E. Packer Avenue               E-mail: smk2@Lehigh.EDU
From: bguest@ateam.ems.cdc.com (Brandon Guest)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: ARCHIE HazMat Program Available
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:12:35 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Control Data

Okay, Okay, Sometimes I never give up.

In two previous post I asked if anyone knew where I could pick up a
copy of the ARCHIE HazMat program.  ARCHIE stands for:

	 Automated Resource for Chemical Hazard Incident Evaluation.

This program is useful for performing hazard analysis conducted as part
of preplanning HazMat incidents.  It provides several useful analysis
models for evaluating hazards which result from chemical spills (e.g.
toxic cloud corridors, etc.).  I finally obtained a copy of this
program from an instructor in HazMat at the local technical college
here.  While I can not provide this software via anonymous ftp (we're
not allowed to set up anonymous sites here), I am willing to post it
here or provide it via email to any and all who desire.

So...  If you're into calculating how much of some particularly nasty
chemical you have to sprinkle around to clear out your town or campus,
let me know and I will make arrangements for you to get a copy of this
program.  If you're not, ignore this post.  Based on the responses I
receive, I will post or email to get it out to you.  Also, are there
any volunteers who would be willing to put this up on an anonymous
site?

Brandon
HazMat III Wanna-be
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From: thurmag@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Gary Thurman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fire/Ambulance Clip-Art
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:06:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct14.190648.6919
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

I am looking for any FIRE/AMBULANCE clip-art to use with either WordPerfect,
or Microsoft Word for Windows.  Does anyone have an idea if there is an FTP
site I can download this from, or does some "NICE KIND" person out there
have some that I may acquire? :-)

				Thanks for any help!


					-Gary-

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     >| 132 |-----------\       Email:  thurmag@mist.cs.orst.edu
      +-(O)--------(O)--+       Corvallis, Oregon
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: joelp@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joel.peshkin)
Subject: Re: Pulse Oximeters
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:49:43 GMT

In article <yury.02p8@bknight.jpr.com> yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.224551.29457@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Matthew.H.T.Fulton@dartmouth.edu (Matthew H. T. Fulton) writes:
>> Any EMS people out there using pulse oximeters yet?  I understand 
>> that they are available for BLS use, at least in New Jersey.  I
>> don't know of any squads that have them.  Opinions, comments?
>	Well Pulse oximeters are nice, no they are not implemented here in
>New York City (NYC EMS) on BLS or ALS ambulances. Although having them
>would be nice, I do not see the need for them. The standard protocols here
>is everyone gets 100% Non Rebreather if complaint is non related to COPD.
>

  Pulse-OX is Standard ALS equipment in Eastern PA. I haven't ever had them 
directly influence the course of treatment, but they make a nice "clue"
and give a nice alarm for a patient going down the tubes. I could see them
being the first warning of a problem with an ET tube slipping, but I haven't
had that happen to me yet.

-Joel Peshkin, EMT-P
From: chinatti@drops.Princeton.EDU (Stephen Anthony Chinatti)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Duty to Act
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:53:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct9.005325.11014
Distribution: usa
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Oct8.193436.27429@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> dave@startide.ctr.columbia.edu (David M. Weinreich) writes:
>A question for the net: (with some relavent background
>information)
>
>We're affiliated with Columbia Unversity in NYC.  Our crew
>carries two-way page capable radios. When we get a call, the crew
>responds to the ambulance which is parked in the center of
>campus.  This unfortunately means that a crew member may have to
>go through a scene in order to get to the ambulance.

Never mind duty, it seems stupid to pass a scene on your way to
pick up the ambulance.  I can understand if everyone had pagers
only you might want to avoid the possibility of everyone going
to the scene and no one going to for the rig, but if you have
portable radios, why can't you coordinate who goes to the scene
and who goes for the ambulance?  In my volunteer service, if a
scramble call goes out and no one is at the building, I would 
venture to say that more than 2/3 of the time one goes to the
scene and one goes for the ambulance.  Why is your system like
that?

	Steve
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:54:07 -0400
From:         KEN <KAK6279@RITVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Abbreviations

        Maybe you guys can find the abbreviations on your state run sheets.
I know that about a year sgo, when you could still get NYS PCR's, there was a
(In the cardboard book form as opposed to seperaste), there was a huge list of
the common abbreviations.  Also, I know that the NYS BLS protocols manual
shows the list.  If your state has a protocol manual, check in there. Or
could somebody post the NYS list...

                                                        FireMAN
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: stevew@netcom.com (Steven Wilson)
Subject: Re: Scanners Also
Summary: Listening in on telephone calls
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:06:12 GMT

In article <9210031751.AA27183@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>,         Dylan Kaufman <morgan@CHAOS.CS.BRANDEIS.EDU> writes:
> It is technically illegal to eavesdrop on ANY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION,
> no matter how that conversation is conducted.  That mean cell. phone,
> cordless phone, landwire, scrambled, whatever.
> 

This isn't quite correct - According to the ECPA passed in 1986
ammending the Communications act of 1934 it is illegal to monitor cellular
telephones as you stated.  However, cordless phones are specifically 
exempted from this restriction.  

> It is also illegal to listen to any scrambled communication unless you
> are an intended recipient of that communication.
This is true.
 
> 

Steve Wilson , KA6S
> -<>Dylan<>-                     MA EMT-M, CA EMT-1A, BEMCo 107
> Dylan Kaufman 			Major in Computer Science

 			-- Ancient American Proverb, c. 1980
From: saltzman@ISOVAX (Bob Saltzman)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Pulse Oximeters
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:29:32 GMT
Reply-To: saltzman@ISOVAX
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <92280.082143HALTEMAN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, HALTEMAN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>About a year ago I posted a similar request.  The resopnses were all
>very positive.  Until I encountered the following case this past summer,
>I felt very confident using a pulse oximeter.
>
>The Case:
>
>   We were called for a possible MI. UOA found pt. sitting in chair
>under own support, eyes closed and only responsive to loud voice. Pt.
>told us he was swimming in small backyard pool and felt some chest
>pressure.  No radiation to arms,legs or neck.  No cardiac history,
>but similar episode few weeks earlier. Plans to see pers. phys.
>"real soon now".  Pulse about 80, resp. 16, lungs clear, no pedal edema,
>palpable radial pulse, but unable to obtain BP by auscultation.  We
>started O2 by nasal at 6 lpm, loaded onto cot and into rig.  In rig,
>attached pulse oximeter finger probe, and cardiac monitor.  Monitor
>showed NSR and p.o. showed SaO2 to be 98%, pulse of 80 confirmed by
>monitor and p.o. Still had difficulty obtaining BP, but systolic
>estimated to be 105 mmHg. Pt. in now AOx4, good color, normal resps.
>
>We start for the hospital (8 min ride) suddenly the SaO2 starts falling
>to 90 then 85, pulse responds to 100, to 120.  We switch O2 to NRB at
>15 lpm.  Cardiac monitor shows NO DISCERNABLE change in RHYTHM or RATE.
>Patient condition is unchanged, still pink, AOx4, normal resp.  We
>checked the probe position, all was fine.  This same episode happened
>twice more.  During one, we ran a strip and saw no change in the
>cardiac rate.
>
>Obviously, one should trust the signs from the patient more than the
>mechanical devices, but now I am not so trusting of the p.o.
>
>
>Just my $.005,
>
>
>Bill Halteman, EMT - I.

In the extreme case the anecdote of a LifePak showing asystole while the
patient is sitting there talking with you always leads you to rely
on your own observations, training and thinking ahead of what
even the most dependable technological devices are telling you.
Each of these assessment tools is only one element that contributes
to your overall view of the patients condition and your most
appropriately course of field treatment.

I am not intending to sound 'lectury' about this, only that your
simple experience with the pulse oximeter is a profound example of
how we must all keep our patient care priorities in order and rely
on our best assessment tool - ourselves.
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: cliff@engin.umich.edu (clifford  kaminsky)
Subject: Misc. old computer equip.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 11:48:56 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Hi. My girlfriend has a couple of things for sale. viz:

MDA monochrome monitor
Mono video/printer card
5Meg MFM Hard drive (original IBM)
800X600 16 color Super VGA card

Prices are "best offer, shipping extra"

Oh, by the way, this equipment is in the Boston area, not Michigan.
If you are interested, you can e-mail me, or call Amy at (617) 749-1079.
Thanx.
-Cliff

Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: europa@eng.umd.edu (Tae Hun Kim)
Subject: Re: Forsale: Maxtor 7213 (200MB)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 02:59:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <9210121718.AA09883@aunix.fullerton.edu> xpwang@AUNIX.FULLERTON.EDU (Peter Wang) writes:
>200MB HD -- Maxtor 7213 (213MB, 15ms, IDE, New) for only $475.
>
>Contact: xpwang@aunix.fullerton.edu (Peter)
>
>
>

I think these sell for like $425 in Computer Shopper.

Newsgroups: misc.forsale,ne.forsale,ny.forsale,misc.computers.forsale
From: mfq@world.std.com (Michael F Quigley)
Subject: UNIX Software For Sale
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:36:35 GMT

FOR SALE:                                                                       
                                                                                
ESIX System V 3.2 Revision D Operating System                                   
                                                                                
- Full UNIX System V 3.2 Implementation                                         
- Unlimited User Version                                                        
- Complete With Development System (C Compiler and Libraries + Tools)           
- Full TCP/IP Implementation (Slip, NFS, RFS, Telnet, FTP)                      
- Full X11/R3 Implementation and Development System                             
- All Volumes of Documentation Included                                         
- Asking $500 (o.b.o.)                                                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
WordPerfect For UNIX/386                                                        
                                                                                
- Works Great With ESIX (above), Interactive, SCO, or any UNIX/386              
- Compatible With All Other WordPerfect Products And Platforms                  
- Handles Both Text And Graphics on Console and Serial Terminals                
- Asking $300 (o.b.o.)                                                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
Interactive VP/ix 1.2 MS-DOS Emulation Software                                 
                                                                                
- Allows You To Run MS-DOS Programs On Your UNIX System                         
- Runs ALL MS-DOS Software Including Games!                                     
- 2 User Version                                                                
- Allows Access To ALL UNIX Devices And Filesystems From DOS.                   
- Asking $200 (o.b.o.)                                                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: reeds@infonode.ingr.com (Steve Reed)
Subject: House For Sale - Southern Calif.
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:28:09 GMT

My in-laws have a very nice house for sale in Riverside, Ca.  Here are 
the details:

o 3 Bedroom (all will take King Size Beds)

o Bonus Room 21 x 22 (makes a great playroom or office)

o 1898 sq. ft.

o 2 Bath 

o Million $ View from the mountain

o Beautiful Landscape

o Good Neighborhood

o Double Car Garage

o Dining Room and Eat-in Kitchen

o Fireplace

o Ceiling fans

o Price => $179,500

o Call 714/685-8444


Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: cliff@engin.umich.edu (clifford  kaminsky)
Subject: monitor and video cards
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:37:36 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: video monitor

I still have a couple things for sale:

genuine IBM phosphor monochrome text monitor (MDE i believe they're called)

video card for the above monitor with built-in printer port (LPT1)

Super VGA card (800x600x16), brand new, with drivers for popular software.

Asking $25 for monitor and video card, and $30 for Super VGA.

All prices negotiable.

-Cliff
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,ne.forsale
From: rimbold@apollo.hp.com (Robert Rimbold)
Subject: *Powerful* Kerosene Heater For Sale
Originator: rimbold@relaxed
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:02:07 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA


For Sale: 

A 150,000 BTU kerosene heater. It's about three years old, and has
worked flawlessly the entire time I used it. This is the style of
heater that is shaped like a tunnel and blasts hot air out one end.
I used it for two winters to heat a 3 car garage while I was working
on the cars. It could bring the temperature from 7 to 70 in about
15 minutes, and this garage a had high ceiling and no insulation.
The fuel tank holds several gallons.

Price: $300 or best offer (I'm moving).

It's located in Billerica, MA.

Rob Rimbold
Email: rimbold@apollo.hp.com
Telephone: 508-667-9335
Work: 508-436-4528
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From: anjoorian@lando.enet.dec.com (Jason Anjoorian)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: 35mm Movie Trailers For Sale
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:36:27 GMT
Distribution: na

35mm film trailers for sale.  These are short (a few minutes to
several minutes) promotional films (also known as the "coming
attractions") films shown in movie theaters prior to the main
attraction. Since they are 35mm color films, they are sometimes used
to create excellent "alternate" photos of favorite movie stars. The
animated ones (especially Disney) and Academy award winners are very
collectible.  I have 34 in all (listed below) and I am asking $150.00
for the lot (less than $4.50 each) plus shipping (about 30 pounds).  As 
a bonus, if you buy the lot, I will throw in a large metal 35mm film 
reel if you need one.  Here's what's included: 

    The Accidental Tourist
    The Bear
    Bull Durham
    Chances Are
    Cheetah and Friends (Disney non-animated feature)
    Child's Play 2
    Deep Star Six
    Driving Miss Daisy
    Far Out Man
    The Fly II
    41st Academy Awards Promotional Announcement
    Harlem Nights
    Honey, I Shrunk The Kids
    Jacob's Ladder
    Johnny Be Good
    The Land Before Time (Universal animated feature) (2 copies)
    The Last Emperor
    Leonard Part 6
    Lethal Weapon
    The Mysterious Island Of Captain Nemo
    Mystic Pizza
    The Naked Gun
    Narrow Margin
    National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
    Nightmare On Elm Street Part 5
    Oliver And Company (Disney animated feature)
    Rainman
    Return To Snowy River 
    Scrooged
    Scrooged (longer version)
    Tap
    Tequila Sunrise
    Uncle Buck