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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:02:41 DNT
From:         Just Jensen <LOFJUST@VM.UNI-C.DK>
Subject:      META ANALYSIS ???

A colleauge has asked how to combine information from different experiments
all related to various treatments with hormones. These are all very expensive
experiments and therefore tends to be small. What is the best way to
combine evidence?. I have suggested ML/Weithted Least square.
In the back of my head i have the word META-Analysis.
I would very much appreciate references and comments on this/these? subjects

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:31:16 +0930
From:         Bill Venables <wvenable@STATS.ADELAIDE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      References to power calculations.

I have a question about references somewhat like Meredith Warshaw's
brother-in-law's. A colleague came to me with the following query:

    Every year in our Psychology honours course students come in
    with project proposals.  They know in advance *roughly* both the
    size of the effect they are looking for, and the error variance.
    However when you look at the experiment they are proposing to do
    it's clear that either they are going to have very little chance
    of finding it, or it's a complete overkill.

    What references can I recommend to these students so that they
    learn something about power and sample size calculations in
    experimental design to make their proposals realistic?

I was tempted to say "Send them along to my inference classes", but that's
not likely to go down well with Psychology students.  My second response
was "Dixon and Massey: Intro..." but that was written in 1968, and next the
charts and tables in Cochran and Cox, but these are fairly obscure for stats
beginners.

I did my PhD work in this area, so I generate most of this stuff for myself
when I need it without going to the references.  So does anyone know of
some good, reasonably elementary, modern references for my colleague, and me?

I will summarise email responses if warranted.

Thanks in advance, Bill.
___________________________________________________________________________
Bill Venables, Dept. of Statistics, | Email: venables@stats.adelaide.edu.au
Univ. of Adelaide, South Australia. | Tel: +61 8 228 5412  Fax: ...232 5670
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:11:00 CDT
From:         SCHWARZ@UOFMCC.BITNET
Subject:      Stat City

[Also posted to Edstat-L network].

Howard Gitlow wrote a book in 1982 called Stat City where he constructed
a hypothetical population of households in Stat City. The population
consisted of about 1300 households.
In the appendix, he gave a listing of all the variables
for the households and a 'city' map. This would seem to be an
ideal teaching tool for sampling. Does anyone know if a machine
readable version is available. Are there any other similar
datasets available? The book does not appear to be in print in 1992.

Thanks.
Carl J. Schwarz    SCHWARZ @ CCM.UMANITOBA.CA
Department of Statistics
University of Manitoba    (204) 474-6275   fax: (204)-275-5011
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:27:00 EST
From:         mjk1@CEHIEC1.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      Info on package called SUDAN?
X-To:         STAT-L@VM1.MCGILL.CA

The package you are referring to is called SUDAAN (SUrvey DAta ANalysis).  I
believe you can get a copy of this by contacting Dr. Babu Shah, RTI, PO Box
12194, 3040 Cornwallis Rd., RTP, NC 27709 (address looks funny but this is
all I can seem to locate in my notes) .

I have used this package to run logistic regression models that account for a
complex survey design.  In addition to weighting each respondent in my sample
for his or her probability of selection and other factors associated with the
complex design of the survey, I did include a post-stratification component.
However, had it not been necessary to account for the complex survey, I would
have been able to perform my analyses in SAS and still use differing weights
for each sample member.

I have not looked into the use of this package for survival analysis.
However, since SAS runs logistic regression with different weights applied,
is it possible that it will do the same ina survuval analysis?  The reason I
ask is that I have found the documentation for SUDAAN to be confusing at
times.  In addition, I was under the impression that it's use was only
necessary when there was a need to account for a complex survey design.  In
my situation, it was the estimated standard errors that differed (SAS vs
SUDAAN) - my point estimates were identical.

Marcie-jo Kresnow CDC (404)488-4656


However, I will add that Dr. Shah has been available and very
responsive, by phone, to my questions.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:45:54 MST
From:         "Kenneth L. Hacker, Ph.D.,
              Communication" <KHACKER@NMSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      election polls

I am interested in what statisticians think about the current wave of
election polls.  Specifically, how should the media and public make
sense out of them, particulary in light of the fact that they widely
diverge, yet claim to be based on valid random sampling techniques.
Is the divergence a function of question differences?   Is it possible
to take a set of poll results and compute a trend that represents what
call public opinion?   It is easy to attribute poll data variation done
at different times to "voter volatility," but what about the variation
with polls done at the same time?   For example, the latest ABC poll shows
Clinton at 56 and Bush at 36, while the Time/CNN poll shows Clinton at
48 and Bush at 40.  Any ideas about the statistical interpretations of
such data are greatly appreciated.   Ken Hacker, Dept of Communication,
New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM 88003.
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From:         REMELT@LEGACY.CALVIN.EDU
Subject:      Load & Unload MSCDEX
X-To:         cdromlan@idbsu.idbsu.edu

I realize this topic was discussed on the list a couple months ago.
But, then, I didn't need the information! I saved some of the messages, but
I know that many more responses appeared on the list.

I need to know the names of software packages that detect, load, and unload
MSCDEX in a Windows environment.

Thanks!

Glenn Remelts
Automation
Calvin College Library
remelt@legacy.calvin.edu
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 15:13:47 CDT
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From:         zhengt@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
Subject:      TSR program for LAN appl

We run into a situation for our CDROM LAN.
We use Direct Access network 5.1 for our Netware (3.11) LAN system.
UMI ProquestIV was loaded and meterred for 4 concurrent users.
However, UMI program does not provide session time out function that allows
program to exit out when the program is idle for certain time like in the case
of Wilson Program.
Direct Access is not a TSR program so there is no way for Direct Access to
control application session.
I am searching for a kind of TSR program that will log UMI program off after
certain time. Thank you for any information.

=========================
Ting Zheng, L&LR
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
(414) 472-5519
zhengt@uwwvax.uww.edu
=========================
Ting Zheng, L&LR
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
(414) 472-5519
zhengt@uwwvax.uww.edu
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From:         Tim Mills - Library Systems Group <T.MILLS@QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Law Software on CD-ROM
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Hi all,

Speaking of law data bases, has anyone had any luck networking Lawpac
data bases with Novell and SCSI Express.  No matter what I try I just
can't get the software to recognize the drive.

Any help, any at all(hysterical plea) would be much appreciated.


Tim Mills
Computer Systems Officer                    Email: t.mills@qut.edu.au
Queensland University of Technology, Library
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
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From:         N Werner Mortensen <WERNER@MFC.PANUM.KU.DK>
Subject:      Multiple-choice

Hello fellow networkers,

I am looking for a DOS- or VMS-based multiple-choice system to be used in
the training and testing of medical students. We use PathWorks for VMS and
PathWorks for DOS. The solution should be able to handle approx 15 students
concurrently and the results should be stored i a "safe" place for later
evaluation by the tutor.

Ideas, hints, names and/or addresses will be appreciated as I am starting this
from scratch.

Regards,
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*  N. Werner Mortensen		Phone:    +45 3135 7900  ext 2530	 *
*  Network Manager		Fax:      +45 3135 7657			 *
*  The Faculty of Medicine	Home:     +45 3174 9212			 *
*  University of Copenhagen						 *
*  Blegdamsvej 3		Internet: werner@mfc.panum.ku.dk	 *
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From:         Shelli Crocker <CROCKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      passwords

For those libraries which use passwords to control access to CD-ROM
databases:

Are passwords assigned to individual users?  If so, how time-consuming
is this task?  Or does everyone use the same password?  If so, is this
password changed on a regular basis?  How do you inform users of the
new password?  I would be interested in any experience on this subject.
You may respond to me or to the list.

Thanks in advance.

Shelli Crocker
Archie Dykes Library
University of Kansas Medical Center
CROCKER@UKANVM
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From:         FB23@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
Subject:      Re: TSR program for LAN appl
X-To:         CDROMLAN%IDBSU.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU

David Fox writes: "I've read many favourable comments on this list re
Sabre Meter, Saber Menu, etc., but I don't recollect ever seeing the
complete name and address of the company ..."

Here it is:

             Saber Software Corporation
             P.O. Box 9088
             Dallas, TX  75209

             (800)361-8086

Hope the info is helpful!

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries,
Networking and Microcomputer Operations

University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

ph.817/565-3024
Bitnet: FB23@UNTVAX
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From:         zhengt@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
Subject:      Communication Server for Netware
X-To:         cdromlan@idbsu.idbsu.edu

We are planning to set up a Communication server for Netware.
We are considering Microdyne's NAS hardware and software connection.Any
 suggetions ? Thanks.
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Ting Zheng, L&LR                       *
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater     *
(414) 472-5519                         *
ZHENGT@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU                  *
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From: DGH@herald.divinity.yale.edu (Duane Harbin)
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Subject: Removing MSCDEX?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:16:55 GMT
Organization: Yale Divinity Library

I'm experiencing a difficulty which involves conflicts between networked
CD-ROM's and a CD-ROM drive connected locally to the workstation.

I use SCSI Express to network CD-ROM's under Netware 3.11, however a few of 
my workstations also have their own CD-ROM drives which utilize MSCDEX. A 
particular application, Innotech's FindIt, detects the local drive, but not 
the network drive. On workstation's without local drives, I use a utility 
from MDI (SCSI Express' manufacturer) which identifies the network drive as 
a CD-ROM. However, the utility will not load if MSCDEX is present.

Sooo... Does anyone know of a way of unloading MSCDEX without rebooting the 
workstation? Or of another possible solution?

Thanks.
Duane Harbin
Information Services Librarian
Yale Divinity School Library
409 Prospect Street
New Haven, CT 06511-2108 USA
203.432.5289
DGH@Herald.Divinity.Yale.Edu
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From:         A Grant <AG129@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: [CD-ROM Networking Workshops - Fall 1992]

> CD-ROM Networking Technologies Workshops: Fall, 1992
> Washington, DC Schedule
>
> September 15 8:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
> September 16 8:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
>
> December 2   8:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
> December 3   8:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.

Anyone know of similar events in the rest of the world (e.g. Europe)?

p.s. surely a workshop on networked multimedia could _use_ networked
multimedia, then we wouldn't have to fly around the world all the time...
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From:         FOX@SKLIB.USASK.CA
Subject:      Re: TSR program for LAN appl

    I've read many favourable comments on this list re.  Sabre Meter, Saber
    Menu, etc.  but I  don't  recollect  ever  seeing the complete name and
    address of the company that supplies these products.

    Could someone please post the full  address,  phone and FAX numbers....
    and prices if possible.

    Thanks...
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David Fox                                 Phone: (306)966-6031
Head, Systems Department                  FAX:   (306)966-6040
University of Saskatchewan Libraries      Internet: FOX@SKLIB.USASK.CA
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan                   ENVOY 100: D.FOX
CANADA
S7N 0W0                      Q> What time is it?
                             A> You mean now?
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From:         George Mansoor <VFOAO07H@VAX.CSUN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: CD-ROM Networking Workshops - Fall 1992
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Thanks for the program.

I'll give it a whirl and let you know.

George
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From:         Jim Harrington <EXTXAABE@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Create MS-DOS Hypertext CD-ROM?
              22 Aug 1992 16:13:00 -0500 from <Theodore.Morris@UC.EDU>

You might take a look at HyperWriter by NTERGAID, Inc. It is MS-DOS based
does not require Windows (in fact the developers don't recommend it) and
provides a hypertext interface. It provides commands to interface with
videodisks, but I'm not sure about a CD-ROM application as you plan it.
You may want to contact the developers to find out for sure. NTERGAID's
address is

   2490 Black Rock Turnpike
   Suite 337
   Fairfield, CT 06430
   (203) 380-1284
   fax: (203) 380-1465
   BBS: (203) 380-1467

Sounds like an interesting project. I hope you will keep us all informed.

Jim Harrington
Valencia Community College
Orlando, FL
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From:         Steven Kriby <kirby@ATHENA.CS.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bridging Novell LAN to BM Mainframe
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              Univ Chicago" at Aug 21, 92 9:46 pm

Don Wee gave the answer I was looking for regarding my question.
(Thanks, Don.)  I kinda hoped the response would be a negative one.
And I knew that even if it was possible, the connection from an
IBM mainframe to a Novell server was bound to be ugly.  As Don notes,
3090s don't like to talk to line mode ASCII devices (or anything
else that isn't an IBM mainframe.)  My fear is that we have such
a heavy investment in 327X devices that we might be tempted to try
something foolish.  And I think a connection like the one I
described would be foolish.  (Now, going *from* the LAN to the
mainframe is another ballgame.  I'll try to sell that idea if/when
the issue is raised.)  Thanks to all who responded.

--Steve

Steven (they still ain't got my "From" line fixed) Kirby
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: passwords

    Hiya,

    We are using Novell 3.11 and CBIS....

    We have a 'generic' user-id that loads when the work stations are
    booted in the morning.  I'm not sure why you would have password
    protected CD's ??  If something isn't supposed to be on the
    network, then it would not be in the menu that the public uses ??

    If you are talking about having "STAFF" only CD's, then simply
    have their workstations boot using a differrent ID, and you can
    map their stations accordingly.  Build a different menu too....


    Dave
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From:         Ken Sullivan <KENS@LIBRARY.HEALTH.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: passwords
X-To:         Shelli Crocker <CROCKER%UKANVM.BITNET@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu>,
              CDROMLAN@IDBSU.BITNET

> For those libraries which use passwords to control access to CD-ROM
> databases:
>
> Are passwords assigned to individual users?  If so, how time-consuming
> is this task?  Or does everyone use the same password?  If so, is this

Here at the Univ of Fla Health Science Center Library we use a
Foxbase program (written by our Computer Operator and an engineering
student) to register patrons as users in our Novell 3.11 LAN. We use
the patron's social security number as their userid and their last
name as a password. The Novell makeusr program can be used
with external db's for creating large numbers of users/passwords on a
Novell network.

We started with a DataPerfect program (also written by our computer
operator) but switched to Foxbase for its speed and flexibility. From
the point of pressing the return key after entering the person's data,
the program takes around a minute for the user to be created.

Ken Sullivan
Medical Informatics Lab Manager
UF HSCL
Kens@library.health.ufl.edu
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From: USERGES4@UMICHUM.BITNET (james alloway)
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Subject: REsign
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:41:32 GMT
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UNSUBSCRIBE james alloway  from CDROMLAN
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From:         solrccc@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU
Subject:      Re: passwords

>For those libraries which use passwords to control access to CD-ROM
>databases:
>
>Are passwords assigned to individual users?  If so, how time-consuming
>is this task?  Or does everyone use the same password?  If so, is this
>password changed on a regular basis?  How do you inform users of the
>new password?  I would be interested in any experience on this subject.
>You may respond to me or to the list.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Shelli Crocker
>Archie Dykes Library
>University of Kansas Medical Center
>CROCKER@UKANVM

I think Shelli's question may have to do with remote access.  Here at
Southern our goal is to provide students and faculty at three different
campuses access to our CD server (named Romulan).  Rather than creating
passwords and user accounts for 20,000+ people, we let our computer
services maintain their accounts on the academic VAX.   Computer services
keeps the accounts current by purging student accounts quarterly when they
receive an updated enrollment report from the registrar's VAX unit.  Any
student with an account on the VAX has a menu option for Romulan.  Locally,
we setup our Saber menus to give access to some databases and not others
based on generic grouping.  Maintaining the accounts assures that only
enrolled students are competing for the CD server resources.  It also
provides a way for student or faculty with modems to access Romulan from
home, office or dorm room.




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Cheryl M. Claiborne
Learning Resources Center
Georgia Southern University
Statesboro, GA  30460-8074
912-681-5269
solrccc@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
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