HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cbergstr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris N Bergstresser)
Subject: Re: Non-quotes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:37:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.201822.28392@scorch.apana.org.au> jimgar@scorch.apana.org
.au (Jim Garner) writes:
>faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted) writes:
>
>|>Just like Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" in any of
>|>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories.
>
>|   And Bogart never said "Play it again, Sam" in Casablanca.  Kind of
>|   an interesting thread - well known non quotes.
>
>And Shakespeare never said "Alas poor Yorick, I knew him well."
>Hamlet Act 5 Scene 1, look it up.
>
     The only problem is that Shakespeare is misquoted, but he did say "Alas, 
poor Yorick.  I knew him, Horatio."  The others are statements that were never 
said, in any form, like . . .

     "The game is afoot!"  -- not-Holmes

     "Everyone talks about the weather, but no one does anything about it."
                    -- not-Twain

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Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: oroth@reed.edu (Owen Walker Roth)
Subject: Re: Curt Siffert
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:09:30 GMT


>
>>"I'm in a BIZARRE."
>>	- Curt Siffert
>
>"I'm in a brasiere."
>	- Me (who else)
>
  "I'm stuck in a brazier"
	- Anon Djinn

Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Subject: Re: Uni Toilets
Reply-To: joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
Organization: SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:28:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.010919.7657@daimi.aau.dk>, pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
|> There are quite a few of these jokes on
|> 
|> "On a clear day, you can see forever".
|> 
|> Where does this come from? I've seen&heard it _so_ many times,
|> but never with a source. 

It's the title of a song. I've heard Barbra Streisand and Robert
Goulet sing it. It's from a 1960's musical (well, maybe early 70's)
called "The Fantastiks," which had a successful run on Broadway.
I think it was about psychics, I have never seen it. It's a nice song,
too bad I can't hum it for you...


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joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
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Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: richardg@spot.Colorado.EDU (Greg L. Richardson)
Subject: Curt Siffert
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:29:20 GMT



Yesterday, I was logged onto a screen session which had Barry Schaefer's
account as one of the screens.  I was being funny and put a .sig file on
unbeknownst to him. I had intended for it to be used by him at a later 
date, but I accidentally posted an article from his account, thus activating
the bogus .sig file.

I have unintentionally put him in an uncomprimising position and am making
this my public apology to him and to the readers of this newsgroup.

Thank you,
Greg L. Richardson

Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au (Jim Garner)
Subject: Re: Shakespeare's Law of Prototyping
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:21:02 GMT

sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:

|Then, of course, there's Shakespeare's famous C-programmer. A fellow by
|the name of Macbeth.
|     "...we but teach Bloody Instructions, which, being taught,
|         return to plague th' inventor." (I, viii)

Shakespeare must have been talking about C when Falstaff says:
  "O, thou hast damnable iteration, and art indeed able to corrupt a
saint." - Henry IV Part 1, Act 1 Scene 2.

-- 
Jim Garner B.Math (Newcastle NSW Australia) - jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au

Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: Morocco?  What about Burger King?
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:14:58 GMT

worrall@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu (Thomas Worrall) writes:
>I remember in the 80's one of Jed's most requested rants
>was how he was saved in a Burger King in California, or 
>Ohio, or somewhere.  Now this Morocco story!  What gives?!
>Is this just the tip of some giant cruel hoax?  Some kind of
>Morocco-gate?  

    More like a fundie-mental point of confusion. (Sorry, raunch pun there)

    According to my recollection Brother Jed was indeed saved on a beach 
in Morocco, but his lovely and gracious bride Cindy heard the calling 
while standing in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant. Although 
I've never had the pleasure to see him in action, I believe that Brother 
Jim Giles claims to have seen the light at a Van Halen concert. And of 
course, Max Lynch embraced the Almighty after his wife told him to get a 
job.

--
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Psychology Department               Indiana University
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Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: uphrrmk@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote)
Subject: Jed on Internet? ;)
Reply-To: uphrrmk@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote)
Organization: Montana State University, College of Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:09:02 GMT

    No. I have no such info. Just rumours. However, if Jed ever does so, we
must be sure to announce proof-positive that he consorts with DAEMONS.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: worrall@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu (Thomas Worrall)
Subject: Morocco?  What about Burger King?
Reply-To: worrall@ssec.wisc.edu
Organization: Space Science & Engr. Center, U-Wisc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:01:07 GMT

I remember in the 80's one of Jed's most requested rants
was how he was saved in a Burger King in California, or 
Ohio, or somewhere.  Now this Morocco story!  What gives?!
Is this just the tip of some giant cruel hoax?  Some kind of
Morocco-gate?  

-- 
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From: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Moroccan Naked Hippie Scum
Date: 21 Jan 1993 08:16:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Could someone ask the Jedmeister how he happened to become what the subject
line refers to?
The reason I want to know is, I wanna go do it too!  However, I won't go
off and yell at people on college campusses...:}

-- 
It is caffeine alone that sets my mind in motion.  It is through beans of
java that thoughts acquire speed, that hands acquire shakes, that shakes
become a warning...I am...IN CONTROL...OF MY ADDICTION!
---From the Minicon Graffiti Wall, 1989(?)
From: dgross@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: free monthly newsletter... VIP: VIRGIN PRIDE
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:34:05 GMT
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From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Subject: Re: Bobby Bible running for Vice President
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:33:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.192808.2517@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes: 
[...]
>15) sodomites will be illegal, lesbians spanked and let go....SIN NO MORE
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've known a few lesbians who would have no problems with this
'punishment' :-)

>16) HEAD WITCHES WILL BE PUT TO DEATH, lesser witches spanked and let go.
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ditto here, long as they're not the 'head witch'.

So who are these wacky guys?

	RA

rogue@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (Rogue Agent)
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From: dgross@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Rebirth of Jed (was Re: Morocco?  What about Burger King?)
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:58:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mousebat, Follicle, Goosecreature, Ampersand, Spong, Wapcaplet,                 Looseliver, Vendetta & Pang

Actually, the Brother Jed rebirth story has three parts:

1) Stoned naked hippie in Morocco (following CSNY "Marrakesh Express" as
   a guide) considering going to India and finding a guru.  An Arab carrying
   a cross comes up and starts preaching, and Jed and co. harass him, but
   the message gets through to our hero.

2) A Doobie Brothers concert (They aren't brothers, Jed warns, and their names
   aren't "Doobie."), the song "Jesus is Just All Right" has just finished
   going over the loudspeaker, and Jed, stoned out of his gourd, hops up on
   stage and harangues the crowd.

3) Burger King -- a more spiritually mature fellow, convinces Jed to put his
   faith in Jesus, and there is a subsequent baptism.  "I met the King of Kings
   in the Burger King!"

Hope this clears things up for you.

I find it interesting that Jim, too, was saved at a rock & roll concert whilst
under the influence (he's younger; thus Van Halen instead of Doobies).

Perhaps the dope, noise, flashpots, crowds can set one off.  I've heard of
bright lights triggering epileptic seizures, and drugs inducing religious
mania, etc.  I'll be extra careful next time I show up to a Dead show stoned.
('twould explain all those Jerry worshippers, though...)
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precipitated his downfall by publicizing her sexual encounter with him) said,
"Stiff as it was, it wasn't long enough."
From: dgross@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: A Jed Glossary
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross)
Organization: Mousebat, Follicle, Goosecreature, Ampersand, Spong, Wapcaplet,                 Looseliver, Vendetta & Pang

trol-lop (n) 1: a slovenly woman: SLATTERN

slat-tern (n) : an untidy slovenly woman; also: SLUT, PROSTITUTE

vix-en (n) 2: a shrewish ill-tempered woman

hus-sy (n) 1: a lewd or brazen woman, 2: a saucy or mischievous girl

strum-pet (n) : PROSTITUTE

tart (n) 2: PROSTITUTE
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thought her house needed painting.
From: chall@eco.twg.com (Charles Don Hall)
Subject: Re: Bobby Bible running for Vice President
Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:22:57 GMT

In <1993Jan22.233352.26022@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.192808.2517@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
>dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) writes: 
>[...]
>>15) sodomites will be illegal, lesbians spanked and let go....SIN NO MORE
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I've known a few lesbians who would have no problems with this
>'punishment' :-)

>>16) HEAD WITCHES WILL BE PUT TO DEATH, lesser witches spanked and let go.
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Ditto here, long as they're not the 'head witch'.

Fortunatly, the government knows about these people already and has
their names in a big computer somewhere. So, if anyone decides to
become a lesbian/witch just so they can get a spanking, then their
name will be flagged and they'll have to pay an Excise Spanking Tax
instead.

>So who are these wacky guys?

>	RA

>rogue@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (Rogue Agent)
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>of advanced mathematics. If you'd like a circular describing these new
>research opportunities, just pick up your phone, call your mother, and
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From: dweinste@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Weinstein)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Jed on Internet? ;)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:52:13 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

I know he's in the process of getting an account at the public acccess
site Nyx. Look for him in a newsgroup near you...

--Dave

-- 
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Internet: dweinste@gnu.ai.mit.edu
"Wives have no sympathy for Rugby injuries." -- Dan Smith
From: cwt@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Carl Turner)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Brother Tom at UF
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:24:27 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


In article <2119@blue.cis.pitt.edu> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes:

>How does one "graduate" from the Brother-Jed School of Truck Drivin' and
>Campus Preach'n'?  Does one finally grab that stone from "The Master's" hand
>a la ABC's old "Kung Fu" TV series?  Enquiring Minds want to know!

By enrolling in Brother Jed's sanctified Home Preaching correspondence 
course. In a few years (for a few dollars) you can become a certified
preacher of the gospel right in your own home.

You're laughing, but this is no joke. Jed really does have a mail-order
divinity school. He described it in one of his newsletters last year.
I'd give you the address, but I can't seem to find it right now.


Carl "send me $20 or rapture me" Turner
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Rational romance (Was: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right)
Summary: Yeurgh
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:25:42 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.48

In article <C16Kxy.GBw@news.udel.edu> helie@bach.udel.edu (Ray Helie) writes:
>Once you know exactly the kind of person you are looking for (in the
>sense of /major/ qualities you want and do not want), you are in 
>a position of knowing if a person you get involved with is someone you 
>can get totally serious with, with a great chance of it lasting a long, 
>/long/ time.

I'm hearing this more and more frequently. I just don't buy it. Is there
anyone out there who also thinks like me that this is a really a wishful 
post-hoc analysis of failed past relationships, rather than a realistic 
approach to romance?

I mean, I'm more for rationality in romance than most, but I have great
difficulty in looking at my past relationships (friendships) with this
sort of "trying to look at failure positively" attitude -- or is it more
cynical? "I'll go out with her/him to see if I like *this* about people".

Yeurgh. Whatever happened to love at first sight? Now *that's* the ticket! :-)

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge105.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: When is it Miss/Mr. Right
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:05:43 GMT

weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:

>Since I don't have a preconceived idea about the woman I want, I
>just meet a lot of women, one way and another, and try to get to
>know them. Now and then, I find one that I feel I would like to
>be with, and I try to develop a relationship. 

  Hmmmm.  Isn't it better, though, to at least have a concept of what you
consider the Ideal Mate (tm)?

>I agree that a relationship is a lot of work, and that it should be
>work you enjoy. So far it has always gotten to the point where it is
>clear that the relationship is not going to develop into something that
>will last, so I haven't had to worry about quitting a relationship
>because it wasn't quite good enough. That would be a hard decision.

  Nobody who's ever been in or known people who were in relationships will
doubt your words, I think.  It is a lot of work, despite what TV and movies
make it out to be.  And that is a hard decision to make, moreso if your partner
feels that you ARE the right person, and you're unsure.


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen)
Subject: A kiss should never be given as a duty.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:40:18 GMT


	A kiss is a sign of affection. When you give a kiss to some-
one, you are telling that person that you have affection  for him/her.
To give that person a kiss if you know that there is no affection is
to be a hypocrite, it is an action and one that misleads your partner.
Kisses can also become rote, that is, purely mechanical and without
meaning. I foun this happening in our marriage many years ago, and 
Elizabeth and I talked it over at the time. This doesn't mean that if
you are going off to work that your wife shouldn't kiss you goodbye,
because here she is showing affection. But if you and your wife have
had a tiff (a small argument), she should not kiss you out of DUTY,
but wait until a later time and kiss you with affection. What person,
man or woman, doesnm she has complete trust, and for whom she has
that special feeling of greatness calWhen I got to campus all I could think about all the 
time was Elizabeth. I had given my heart to her, and I no longer had
control of my emotions; we had control of me


But I asked her to marry me on the grass in the quad at UI in '47, and 
we've been married in love ever since. It all stemmed from a kiss given
as a sign of endearment, and not a kiss given in duty.
		John Fippen    fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (Michael D. Adams)
Subject: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
X-Political-Statement: Bigotry is not a family value -- boycott Colorado, think twice about Oregon, watch out for Ohio and Idaho
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:48:10 GMT


Mmmmmmmmmmm.... I dunno.

Strong enough to get out of bed, walk to the 'fridge, grab a beer, sit
in front of the boob-tube, turn on a game, and then take a nap?

;)


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StarOwl@uiuc.edu	      | for themselves.  -- Abraham Lincoln
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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A kiss should never be given as a duty.
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:50:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article petitc@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:

>...this put me to thinking (does anything NOT make me think? :&) )---what do
>any of YOU consider 'off limits' to friends, and reserved for SO's only?
>
>  Personally I think that...
>
>  *HUGS* are for SO's and close friends
>  Kissing is for SO's ONLY
>  Cuddling is for SO's and a few close friends
>  Massages are for SO's and some close friends
>
>  Generally, if it'll be misunderstood I don't do it (so I don't cuddle with
>or give massages to my female friends with SO's).
>
>  What about you?

Well, the above are very culturally dependent.  And since they are culturally
dependent, they are not universal (or the only way).  Thus, we as a society
can decide what we think is the best.  In Saudi Arabia, for example, they
seem to have extreme prohibitions against most touching of another person's
spouse (no such thing as an SO in the Western sense there).

So, it boils down in Western culture to one's belief system.  Let's see, for
me, hugs are for SO's (and one could have more than one SO! depending on if
you are polyamorous), family, close friends.  Kissing is for SO's, some
family, very close friends of the opposite sex (if both are comfortable with
it - kissing can either have erotic overtones or it can have more friendly/
affectionate aspects).  Cuddling is for SO's and close friends of the opposite
sex, including the SO's of others if that is alright with them.  Massages are
for SO's and close friends (and massages can either be very erotic or
essentially therapeutic/friendly).  

I'm sure everybody has their own boundaries on the appropriateness of physical
contact of other people, dictated by culture, religion, etc.  There is no one
right way.

Jon

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Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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