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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 01:17:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.031832.11068@sco.com>, timr@sco.COM (Tim Ruckle) writes:

 [...]

>}> The 49ers also signed their 9th round pick, Darian Hagan, the former
>}> QB of Colorado.
>
>Led them to the '90 national title, didn't he?  I really like the looks
>of this guy.  Even though he was taken in the ninth, I think he's probably
>the most athletic of players they drafted.
>
>}> Are they going to use him as a WR/KR?
>
>The 49ers are in pretty good shape at WR [...]

Say what? With Rice holding out, right now Ron Lewis (not exactly a
household name) is the projected starter to replace him. That doesn't
sound like they are in "pretty good shape" to me (of course, unless
DeBartolo's brain freezes up Rice will be in uniform by the start of
the season).

Montana concerns me somewhat. I was at their training camp at Rocklin
yesterday and he only threw about 30 passes (most of them short), then
complained that his arm was tired, so he took the rest of the day off.
I went back to Rocklin today, and he was given the day off again today
(and will have the day off tomorrow, too, since it's Sunday). He was 
scheduled to take every fifth day off, and since he took Monday off,
I guess today's day off was to be expected. In Joe's defense, it was
about 104 degrees in Rocklin, so I guess it's easy to wear yourself out,
but I just think back to last year when we fans got yanked around ("Don't
worry, we're just going to rest Joe for the next exhibition game"; then
"Don't worry, he'll be ready for the season opener"; then "Don't worry,
he'll be back by mid-season"; and finally "well, wait 'til next year").

Steve Young took quite a few snaps, many of them in the goal-line offense.
He looked real sharp, as did John Taylor. Most of the plays I saw were
passing plays, so I didn't really get a chance to look at the running
backs; in fact, I didn't even see the midget at all (of course, there
are a lot of players milling around, and the midget is easily blocked
from view). I was anxious to see Amp Lee, but I don't remember seeing
him doing anything noteworthy.

I'll probably go back to Rocklin Monday (I live about ten miles away
in Cool, California). If there's anything interesting to report I'll
pass it on. From what I've seen and read so far, the 49ers are looking
real good, assuming they get their holdout situation squared away, which
I feel confident they will do.

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Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
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"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: njs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (nicholas.j.sauer)
Subject: Arena Football League week 8
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:02:55 GMT
Keywords: standings, scores


Arena Football League standings week 8 (Divisional standings in brackets):

North:

Detroit Drive           6-2  (4-1)
Cincinnati Rockers      6-2  (3-2)
Albany Firebirds        5-3  (2-2)
Cleveland Thunderbolts  3-5  (0-4)

South:

Orlando Predators       7-1  (3-1)
Tampa Bay Storm         7-1  (3-1)
Charlotte Rage          3-5  (2-2)
New Orleans Night       0-8  (0-4)

West:

Sacramento Attack       3-5  (3-2)
Dallas Texans           3-5  (2-2)
Arizona Rattlers        3-5  (2-2)
San Antonio Force       2-6  (2-3)


Week Eight Results (home team in caps):

ORLANDO 71, Arizona 21
DETROIT 31, Sacramento 10
TAMPA BAY 62, Albany 42
Charlotte 38, NEW ORLEANS 33
CINCINNATI 62, Cleveland 20
SAN ANTONIO 41, Dallas 40

Week Nine Schedule:

7/23

Dallas at Sacramento

7/24

Orlando at Charlotte
Cleveland at Detroit

7/25

Cincinnati at Albany
San Antonio at Arizona
Tampa Bay at New Orleans

Nick Sauer

"I can just imagine stopping a group of terrorists in their tracks with this
magnificent weapon." Negativland GUNS, Now.


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From: gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy)
Subject: Re: Bobby Humphrey
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:14:38 GMT

In article <92209.084150JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes: 
#Does anybody know what is going on with Bobby Humphrey?  Has he showed for
#training camp?  Is he going to try to work out a contract with Denver now
#that Gaston Green has been signed for another year?

Bobby Humphrey is indeed in training camp. In Miami!

He was traded for Sammy Smith in an exchange of problems with the
Dolphins. 

Has the net heard about the Dolphins Saga with Oglesby? He overslept
Thursday, and was scared of Shula, so he told a story about begin held
up at gunpoint and his car stolen. (The car had been found abandoned
in a bad neighborhood.) Shula said that he would take Oglesby at his
word, but Oglesby later recanted his story. He got fined about  4,000
dollars, 2 for missing practice, and 2 for conduct unbecoming a
Dolphin or some such. The biggest thing was that Shula recinded his
policy of allowing veterans to go home at night during camp. I'll bet
the other Fin vets aren't very happy at Oglesby.

Any rumors about Vincent or Coleman being ready to sign? Or the other
Fins? 

--
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: GOD I HATE MIAMI!!! Yes, the TEGGER is Back
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.143508.24759@cci632.cci.com> teg@cci632.cci.com (Thomas Gauger) writes:
>
>GOD I LOVE FOOTBALL
>GOD I HATE MIAMI!!!!!
>
>Is Aaron Fager still alive?
>Will Tony T. respond to this posting?
>Will Doug Evans proclaim: "Hey, I know that guy!"
>
>These and other questions to be answered in weeks to come.
>Football season is starting, and the TEGGER is coming out
>of hibernation. So look out NET, cause here I come.
>
>Hey, I am going to the Bill's training camp on Saturday. Last year
>my son got a football from Jim Kelly, at the start of the Pittsburgh
>Steelers romp ... er game. Anyway, for any Buffaloians out there, my son
>was featured on the last Jim Kelly show of last season, as the last clip
>of the show. The clip showed Jim Kelly jogging over to the side and
>handing my son a football. Whether Jim Kelly knows it or not, he made
>himself a hero for live in the eyes of my son. On Saturday, we are going
>to Fredonia in hopes of having Jim autograph the football for him. My
>son is extremely excited.
>
>Hopefully, I will have some firsthand Bill's news as well come Monday.
>
>Until then....
>
>=================================
>The TEGGER
>Rochester's self proclaimed #1 Bill's Fan
>
>Section C5
>Row 32
>Seats 109 & 110
>
>God I hate the Vikings!!!! First Game just 2 weeks away!

Oh no just when I thought the world was rid of Buffoonalonians we get this :~)
YYYYUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK. That's alright though the Dolphins, Patriots, Jets and
Colts will all get their revenge on the billy boys this year. Go big Dolphins!

Super Bowl in 93, 16-0 in 92.

John
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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: CLEVELAND BROWNS -- BROWNS BACKERS
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:43:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Cleveland Browns
Keywords: Hey Brownies

My gawd, I never believed I find more Cleveland Browns fans here --
it makes one true Dawg Pounder feels GREAT!!!

 GO-O-O-O DAWGS!!!!!!

- Scott Steinbrink

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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: dolphin news
Keywords: football
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:30:37 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <Bs8Jpr.97r@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems) writes:
>In article <10197@disc.dla.mil>, i000506@disc.dla.mil (Carlos Deno) writes...
>> 
>>IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS GONE TO THE MIAMI DOLPHINS 
>>CAMP AND CAN GIVE ME NEWS ON HOW THEIR TEAM IS PROGRESSING.
>
>Hey Tony, check this out! Looks like we've got another Dolfan in
>training.

Yeah. We're certainly loud for having been to the playoffs once in the
last six years or so aren't we? I just wonder how Carlos has missed my
half dozen updates.

Tony (go new england) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
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From: bbs.mickeyf@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Mickey Ferguson)
Subject: Location of Bay Area Browns Backers?
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:17:57 GMT

As the subject suggests, I'm looking for where the Bay Area Browns 
Backers meet to watch the Browns games.  I remember they used to meet at 
P.J. Mulligan's in Cupertino, but no longer.  Anywhere in the San Jose 
area?

--
Mickey Ferguson (bbs.mickeyf@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Washington Redskins - training camp report
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:54:10 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

From the Washington Post, July 22, 1992:

CARLISLE, Pa., July 21, 1992:

Ricky Sanders returned to camp and said that all is well.  He surprised
everyone by leaving training camp the other day.  Sander said that he
needed time to think about his contract.

Sander will make about $1.9 million the next two years, getting basically 
the deal agent Craig LaMaster and General Manager Charley Casserly agreed 
on last week.  The sides originally had agreed on a three-year contract, 
but the Redskins conceded the final year.

Charley Casserly didn't speak with the agent for either holdout, quarterback 
Mark Rypien or wide receiver draft choice Desmond Howard as each side
appears to be waiting for the other to make the next move.  Rypien has
told agent Ken Staninger to pursue a formal one-year offer from the
CFL Toronto Argonauts in case he decides to gamble that NFL players
will have their free agency by next spring.  

At the moment, Rypien is seeking a two-year deal worth about $4.45 million 
per season and the Redskins are offering a four-year deal worth about 
$3 million.

Likewise, Howard is far from being signed.  He wants $2 million a year
and the Redskins are offering $1.35 million.

Casserly's task won't get any easier this weekend when two unsigned
Pro Bowlers, tackle Jim Lachey and cornerback Darrell Green arrive.

Yesterday: the Redskins had two 90-minute sessions sandwiched around
another day of meetings.  The featured entree at lunch: grilled cheese 
sandwiches and chicken patties.

Today: the Redskins will have their regular 9:00 a.m. practice session,
then have a 40- or 50-play scrimmage at 7:30 tonight at Carlisle High.
It's open to the public for a small admission.  After the scrimmage,
there's a dormitory pizza party for coaches, players and staffers -
a Redskins tradition since Coach Joe Gibbs arrived in 1981.  Gibbs will
dismiss the few veterans who are in camp after the scrimmage and devote
the remainder of the week to rookies, who'll be featured in Saturday
afternoon's scrimmage against the New York Jets at Lehigh University.


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Putting John Turman in a KILL file.
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:21:18 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Jul30.234355.26880@asl.dl.nec.com>, thomas@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas) writes...

>Before I'm flamed beyond recognition, I like to state that I'm
>unable to RTFM because I don't have the M for my newsreader.
> 
>On to the question...  I use the newsreader "rn" and would like
>to create a KILL file which will kill all articles submitted to
>rec.sport.football.pro that are written by John Turman.  However,
>I do not have a man page for "rn" and the built-in help doesn't
>seem to be quite helpful enough.
> 
>Can somebody help me out with this?

Sure.  Press 'u' now.

JGH
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers News????
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:19:19 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul26.052055.16678@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <Bryzwo.Jo5@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, ssbal@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu writes:
[ Lots deleted ]


>
>>3. Finally Dana Hall.  How has he looked in preseason??  Is he expected to 
>>   step in in the absence of Dave Waymer or does Thane Gash have the inside 
>>   track on the starting Strong Safety job??   
>
>Right now he is penciled in as the starter. Of course, the whole preseason
>is still ahead, so that could change. My impression is that the coaches have
>been very impressed with him so far, but he seems to have a lack of
>confidence (or else he is just very humble or awed), because he was talking
>about how much more difficult it is to cover NFL receivers than it is to
>cover college receivers. He's having a little bit of trouble keeping up
>with NFL-caliber receivers, since they run their routes so much better,
>and the quarterbacks are so much more adept at taking advantage of tiny
>cracks in the coverage. Personally, I would rather have him have an attitude
>like this instead of a Neon-Deion attitude. I think he's going to be a
>great defensive player.

Robert, not to disagree but there is nothing wrong with Neon-Deion's attitude. 
His disposition is perfect for a cornerback. He plays all out, covers his man,
makes the plays for his team, gets the crowd into it with his antics. He, 
unlike McKyer, has the respect of his peers (can you say pro-bowl?) and is 
pretty much universally liked in the NFL. Rice himself said he loves to play 
against a guy like Deion because he challenges you to play to the next level 
but he shakes your hand after a good play. He revels in his own exploits but 
what the hell... the game would be pretty boring without emotion. Hall's 
attitude might be fine for a free safety but a corner has to be a cocky son
of a bitch.. otherwise you shouldn't play that position.. maybe that's why 
hall is a safety? 
-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys and Oilers scrimmage in Houston
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:31:07 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Jul27.043032.22615@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
>In article <2121@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>>
>>plus, Hennings
>>evidently forgot about the "touch but don't tackle" rule, and put Moon
>>into the turf on his first sack.
>
>	Not to Bright if he did sack Mr Moon 3 times.
>	Wonder if JJ & JJ told him to do it to antagonize
>	the Oilers....or Hennings was trying to get 
>	attention.

Actually, each of his sacks came against different quarterbacks -- he got
Moon, Cody Carlson, and Bucky Richardson one time each.

I doubt Johnson would try to antagonize another team in that way.  What
would the Cowboys gain from it?  It did strike me at the time, though,
that Hennings was trying to get attention, and was using his rookie
status to get away with it.  Personally, I like that -- shows some good
thinking on his part.

Daniel Welch
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Status of Players Suit
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 27 JUL 92 09:53:05    

In article <1992Jul24.211306.15256@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes...

>I wrote:
>>the NFL owners have authorized the executive committee [...]
>>to reach a binding agreement with the players and settle out of court.  
> 
>I just saw a new UPI report.  The negotiations between the NFL
>committee and the lawyers in the Freeman McNeil trial have been called
>off, and the trial will resume.

I'm glad.  I didn't like either the player's or the owner's proposals. 
Why should should you have to be in the league 4-6 years before you 
get free agency?  What's happening is the current players are sticking 
it to today's rookies and tomorrow's players.  "I've got mine, maybe 
now you can get yours."

I'd like to see a simple salary cap along with incentives for a player 
to say with a team for his entire career.  The league was thinking of 
allowing a team to exceed the cap in resigning it's own free agents.  
This seems reasonable - no cap on resigning your own free agensts but 
caps (maybe separate caps) for rookie salaries and free agents from 
other teams.

I'm really not in favor of salary caps but I can't see any other way 
to encourage players to stick with a single team.  How 'bout this - 
when a player is with a team for 4-6 years they automatically get 
contract to 10 years.  Evem of the player gets cut, the team has to 
keep paying them like they were still on the team (but maybe not the 
full amount) until they've been paid for 10 years counting the 
original 4-6.

BTW, I think the NFL has a realistic chance of winning this case.

JGH
From: i001804@disc.dla.mil (mary green)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles shopping for a Fridge???
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:07:40 GMT
Organization: Defense Industrial Supply Center, Philadelphia, Pa


The Philly Daily News is reporting that the Eagles are one of five teams who
have contacted Refrigerator Perry's agent.  Harry Gamble, Eagles pres. has
confirmed that there is interest on the Birds part.

I realize that Jerome's death leaves a rather large hole to fill by Golic,
Harmon, and Jeeter but do we really need this guy.  I'm trying to keep an
open mind to picking him up but the only thing you here about this guy on Tv 
and read in the paper is that he's overweight and Ditka doesn't like it or him.

How effective is this guy on the line?  Is he decent or does his weight
hold him back?  Is he injured alot?  What's his work ethic like?  I would 
appreciate if any Bear's fan (or anyone who followed his career) could fill
me in on him.

Bob Snyder,
Phila, Pa 
E-mail same as above
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From: srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm)
Subject: (CFL) Ti-Cats upset Argos at the Dome
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:39:48 GMT

The Argos are now in last place in the East!!

Last night in front of only 30899 at the Skydome, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats
handed Toronto their first home loss after a streak of 13 wins in a row at the
Dome.  Earl Winfield was sublime; Allen looked sharp too.  After a low-scoring
first half which saw the 'Cats spot the double-blue a 13-10 lead, and falling
further behind in the 3rd quarter, Hamilton caught fire in the 4th -
which had been their worst quarter in their previous 2 matches - and came
back for a thrilling 39-30 win.  Ismail picked up about 285 (?) all-purpose
yards for Toronto in a losing cause including a delicious grab for a TD.  
The Rocket is so far on pace to destroy Mike Clemons' record of about 3600 (?)
all-purpose yards in a season, set in 1990.  Toronto lost the game, however,
on their 4 turnovers.  The East now looks like:

Ottawa     2-0-0
Winnipeg   2-1-0
Hamilton   1-2-0
Toronto    1-2-0

with Ottawa at Saskatchewan tonight on TSN at 9:30 PM Eastern.

Stephen.
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys?
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:42:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Jul24.191734.14014@aero.org>, mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes...

>2) He had a higher QB rating (career) than Roger Staubach, and was the
>NFL's highest career rated passer (with enough attempts) until the
>advent of Marino and more importantly Joe Montana.

Are you sure about this?  I thought I read that Len Dawson had the #1 
career rating until passed by Montana.

JGH
From: 32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer depth chart starters
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:28:36 GMT
 <92211.21132432BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
 <1992Jul30.132915.2038@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Central Michigan University

In article <1992Jul30.132915.2038@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) says:
>
>In article <92211.21132432BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
><32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>>In article <1992Jul27.184606.12344@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu    N
>(JOH
>>HEIM ) says:
>
>>>LG:   Rich Moran
>
>>He was All-Pro in 1989, I think this year it will be first team Pro-Bowl.
>
>I don't think Moran was ever all-pro; he's never even been named
>to the Pro Bowl.
>

In 1989 Rich Moran was named first team All-Pro (AP).  That actually is a
greater honor than pro-bowl since only 2 starting guards are named for the
WHOLE NFL, instead of the two starters and two backups which are selected
for each conference for the pro bowl.


>>>C:    James Campen
>
>>James is a great competitor who was the Sport Illustrated All Pro Center in
>>1990.  He isn't very athletic but makes the most of his tools.  This position
>>doesn't need immediate  upgrading but a Joe Garten could challenge in future
>>years.
>
>I don't read SI, but are you sure he was on the SI All Pro team?
>Maybe All NFC?
>
Yes, James Campen was the the center on the Sport Illustrated All Pro Team in
1990.

>>>RG:   Tony Manderich
>
>>This position suits his athletic ability very well.  Can you imagine the
>>safeties reactions to this 6-5 320lb monster sprinting out at him running a
>>4.7 fourty on a power sweep.
>
>Where did you hear of Mandarich running a 4.7 40?  He's fast for
>his size, but I've never heard a claim like this.
>
>        [ ... ]
>

He speed when he was drafted in widely known.  He ran a 4.69 cosistently at
the scouting combine in 1989.  He probably is a little bit slower now.
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From: bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Re: Eagles Training Camp News
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:35:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.014003.5420@seq.uncwil.edu> rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith) writes:
>
>The Eagles have all of thier draft picks signed... the last was Casey Weldon
>on Saturday night, no terms disclosed.
>
>
>Unsigned Veterans: (12)
>-----------------------
>Rich Miano - Safety              backup free safety

	Rich is working out at Golds Gym in Honolulu...looks good.
	He attended mini camp a few weeks EArlier and is not
	worried about training camp absence.
	When did he get demoted to 'backup'?

>
>As you can see, most of the starting secondary still isnt in camp.
>


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