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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #183
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:50:11 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 30 Jul 92       Volume 10 : Issue 183

Today's Topics:

      [*] ADD-STRIP-292.HQX
      [*] AliasZoo update...
      [*] archive submission: PBtools.hqx (1/1)
      [*] autodoubler1.0.7 upgrader
      [*] bezique.hqx (card game)
      [*] Bulletin Boards and Beyond UPDATE
      [*] Colour Text Package for HyperCard
      [*] Communicator 2.0
      [*] diskdoubler 3.7.6 upgrader
      [*] diskdoubler auxiliary files
      [*] JMP 2.0 Demo
      [*] KopyKat 0.90
      [*] MacBreadboard 1.0.1 (bug fix)
      [*] minesweeper-12.hqx
      [*] Noticias - Newswire reception with HyperCard
      [*] Phaedrus, a truetype font
      [*] Rebuild Desktop on Novell w/ Sys 7 (A)
      [*] startupscreens & deskpictures FAQ
      [*] Vendor-email addresses/FAX & BBS #s/FTP site list: 240 entries!
      [*] Z specification language ps font
      A How-to question about LISTSERV
      Amnesiac Mac (Q)
      Apple - Mac Transfers
      Apple II -> Mac
      bad tape drive
      Classic II, monitor settings (Q)
      CMarker demo, want it but do not have ftp access, help.
      CMaster
      Color StartupScreen (A)
      DayMaker & its ilk -- comments?
      Does anyone know what this error code means?
      Engraving Devices
      Engraving Devices (A)
      Engraving Devices (R)
      Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (A) (2 msgs)
      Executor $ (Q)
      Finder pathology
      Finding a Venice Equivalent
      HD Case and Power Supply (R)
      how to subscribe to Vaporware
      How to wake a remote sleeping powerbook (answer)
      IIsi sound problem (summary)
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #182 (2 msgs)
      Is it just me ?
      LC Enhancements
      Macbugs INIT
      Mac Networking (A)
      MacsBug INIT [A]
      Mac SE System 7 & 3Com
      MacWorld schedule
      MCI Access [A]
      Middlebury IP Address
      Mode32
      Multimedia video card choices?
      Need a PB 'Sleep' password
      Nisus and Framemaker
      Norton/Quicken continued
      Norton FileSaver/Quicken?
      Postal barcode info?
      Postscript Problems in Page
      PowerBook 100 + Go*80
      Powerbook fax-modem
      PowerSwitch LT beta tests (Q)
      Sound(?) files
      Sounds on the IIsi stop working
      Sys7 boot disk for Quadras
      Thanks for ResEdit Batching advice
      The old, hoary subject of DeskWriter drivers (C)
      Unknown type/creator: MSCF/MSSU
      Up-to-date DoveFax+ software?
      Where can I get MacQua.sit
      Where is AppSizer?
      Word Service Apple Event Suite

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:23 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: [*] ADD-STRIP-292.HQX

This is Add/Strip 2.9.2, the latest version of the handy
utility that can be used to add/strip linefeeds, carriage returns,
smart quotes and ligatures to/from text files.  This is to replace
A/S 2.9 which is in the archives.

-Dwight
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[Archived as /info-mac/util/add-strip-292.hqx; 126K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:26:45 PDT
From: cmccollu@ra.UVic.CA (Cliff Mccollum)
Subject: [*] AliasZoo update...

Here is AliasZoo 1.4.1b.

This version fixes ONE small bug from version 1.4.1.  It would
occur under regular, but unusual, conditions when something was
chosen from the Apple menu.  Basically, it caused the apple menu
to disappear, and then the program to crash in a glorious way. Of
course, you might not think it's as glorious as I did, but
that's a matter of opinion I suppose :)

Cliff McCollum  (cmccollu@ra.uvic.ca)

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[Archived as /info-mac/util/alias-zoo-141b.hqx; 86K]

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Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:27:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: DSOUTH@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: [*] archive submission: PBtools.hqx (1/1)

Enclosed is a Stuffit Deluxe archive file containing:

	SpinD 1.0 -- an Fkey that spins down the hard drive but does
			not sleep the entire system.

	SafeSleep 1.2 -- an Extension that will cause the
			PowerBooks to ask for a password for those
			wishing to awaken them.

Both are written by Bill Steinberg.

SpinD works great in conjuncion with the PowerSleep Fkey (allowing
you to sleep just the HD or the entire system depending on what you
are planning to do).  But you must change the default key when
installing one or the other as they both come setup to use
cmd-shft-0 as the activation key.
(hint: use ResEdit to "get info" about the fkey)


Dale Southard Jr.
dsouth@uoft02.utoledo.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/util/power-book-tools.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:00:25 PDT
From: drew@netcom.com (Drew Wade)
Subject: [*] autodoubler1.0.7 upgrader

For owners of autodoubler, this will upgrade you to the latest (as
of now, 7/28/92) version 1.0.7.  self-extracting archive, binhexed.
-drew wade
drew@netcom.com
 ------------

[Archived as /info-mac/util/autodoubler-107-updater.hqx; 209K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:55:00 PDT
From: PC0TMYS <PC0TMYS%MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: [*] bezique.hqx (card game)

Enclosed is a Stuffit 1.5.1 archive containing a Bezique game
program that I wrote. The program is freeware and can be run
on any Macintosh computer. It requires 300K of memory and is
32-bit clean.

Bezique is a card game for two people. The program allows you
to play against the computer.

Documentation is available online and as a "read me" file.

Bill Hale

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bezique.hqx; 116K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 04:45:16 -0400
From: aboba@world.std.com (Bernard D Aboba)
Subject: [*] Bulletin Boards and Beyond UPDATE

Find enclosed the First Update to Bulletin Boards and Beyond. This 80
page update covers new developments since the publication of Bulletin
Boards and Beyond in April. Included is information on Internet and
commercial online services; CD-ROM; home control; K12Net; sysop resources;
ZTerm v0.9; compression update, and troubleshooting.

The update includes two versions of the same document: on in DocMaker
format, the other in SuperGlue format. The SuperGlue document is best
for printing; the DocMaker version, for browsing.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/bulletin-board-update.hqx; 585K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:52:01 NZS
From: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Subject: [*] Colour Text Package for HyperCard

The Colour Text Package supports coloured text in HyperCard fields.
Text may either be coloured using the original 8 QD colours or the
full RGB range. Also included is an external for the standard Colour
Picker dialog.
	This package compliments other packages which provide colour
in HyperCard (Colorize HC, HyperTint, Pictoid Package, Apple QT XCMDs)
by providing a simple low-memory usage way of adding colour to fields.
A short overview of the other packages is included for reference.
	Package is copyright and generally free for personal use (its
costs you a PostCard, also some restrictions on use by ShareWare
authors), for full details see license included.

Enjoy


[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/color-text-package.hqx; 16K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:38:46 -0500
From: David Kabal <davidk@citr.ee.mcgill.ca>
Subject: [*] Communicator 2.0

/info-mac/comm/communicator-20.hqx

Communicator is a program and background extension combination that allows
you to send prerecorded or new sounds to another (System 7) Macintosh on a
local area network. It also lets you send text messages to another Mac. It
is SHAREWARE.

Features (some new, some old):

* Record new sounds using internal microphone
* Send sounds or text message to any Macintosh on a local-area network
* Sounds are played in the background without interfering with your work
* No INITs are involved (only an application and a faceless background
app.)
* Maintain a list of commonly accessed destinations for quick sending
* Resend the last text message or last sound
* Send to last destination (either text message or sound)
* Configure any receiver on the network (if permitted)
* Hold messages
* Save last message
* Set sound volume to play the sound
* Set record quality
* Last destination and text message saved over multiple launches
* Key equivalents for all major commands and dialog boxes
* Uses VERY small memory partition for receiver, takes from main (unused)
memory
  to play sound
* Caller identification (caller location is displayed, if requested)

Please send your comments, suggestions and bug reports to
davidk@citr.ee.mcgill.ca.


 ---------
David Kabal

Canadian Institute for Telecommunications Research
Institut Canadien de Recherche en Telecommunications

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/communicator-20.hqx; 152K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:01:38 PDT
From: drew@netcom.com (Drew Wade)
Subject: [*] diskdoubler 3.7.6 upgrader

For owners of disk doubler, this will upgrade you to the latest (as
of now, 7/28/92) version 3.7.6.  self-extracting archive, binhexed.
-drew wade
drew@netcom.com
-----

[Archived as /info-mac/util/diskdoubler-376-updater.hqx; 386K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:03:39 PDT
From: drew@netcom.com (Drew Wade)
Subject: [*] diskdoubler auxiliary files

these auxiliary files go with disk doubler and autodoubler, current
with today's release (ad 1.0.7 and dd 3.7.6, 7/28/92).  these include
init for desktop reset; verify and fix programs; bundle bit fixer;
and link to hardware compressor.
-drew wade
drew@netcom.com
 ---------------

[Archived as /info-mac/util/dd-auxillary-files.hqx; 126K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:50 CDT
From: LEMKE%VAXB@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: [*] JMP 2.0 Demo

Due to the interest I received in reference to my posting about statistical
applications,
I am posting this demo of JMP 2.0 from the SAS Institute. JMP is a data
exploration
and analysis package with a particular strength in data visualization and
modeling.

[Bill-due to its size, I wouldnt keep it in the archives long.]

-Dwight Lemke

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/jmp-20-demo.hqx; 1058K]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:27:18 -0400
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: [*] KopyKat 0.90

Here's KopyKat .90, a very useful freeware utility by Scott Silverman.
KopyKat is a simple Startup Document (Init) which adds a hierarchical menu
to the Cut, Copy and Paste menu items in the Edit menu of almost any
application.  (Hypercard is one notable exception.)

The hierarchical menus contain three choices, each of which represents an
individual clipboard which can be used within a single application or
across different applications. For example, I use it to handle mail by
copying the sender, subject, and text of a letter to the three different
clipboards and pasting them separately into my reply.

This utility was posted on America On Line (where I found it) on July 26th;
more than 600 people downloaded it the first day. One AOL user reports a
conflict with MacroMaker in System 6.0.5.



Jeff Needleman  <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/kopy-kat-090.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:01:12 -0400
From: Eric Conger - Microcom <conger@rock.concert.net>
Subject: [*] MacBreadboard 1.0.1 (bug fix)

      Please replace Mac-Bread-board.hqx in your DEMO area with
this newer version.  Some prospective customers found a bug in
the old version (and we don't want that! ;-)   )

thanks,
Eric
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
MacBreadboard is a TTL Trainer/simulator, and was designed for the
electronics student/hobbiest.  It includes a simulated breadboard, power
supply, dip switches, LEDs, 7-segment displays, a buzzer and more.
MacBreadboard comes with online context sensitive help, and a 50 page user
manual.  It even prints timing diagrams!

MacBreadboard runs in black&white, gray-scale and color.  (Mac II and Mac IIcx
require System 7 or 32-bit QuickDraw for color and gray-scale)

In this demo version you cannot save, print, or use more than one chip at
a time.

This Demo version (1.01) fixes a bug which caused crashes on the Mac II
and Mac IIcx when 32-bit QuickDraw was not present.

MacBreadboard is a blast to use, and is available from several home
electronics sources, as well as directly from the author at:
	YOERIC Software
	600 South Churton #24
	Hillsborough, NC  27278
$59.95 check or money order (no credit cards, yet)
Volume discounts and site licenses are available.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/mac-bread-board-101.hqx; 184k]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:23:37 EST
From: Matthew Flatt <mflatt+@cmu.edu>
Subject: [*] minesweeper-12.hqx

This is an implementation of the game where you remove tiles from a grid,
avoiding the ones with bombs underneath. Grid size and bomb count are
configurable.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/minesweeper-12.hqx; 65K]

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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 92 22:12:44 EST
From: thomas@camino.mic.cl
Subject: [*] Noticias - Newswire reception with HyperCard

Noticias is a HyperCard based system to receive newswires. Noticias is not
a shrink-wrapped product, has no support or manuals (apart from a simple
Read Me file), but it does work, and it's FREE :) I am posting Noticias so
that others may find some use for it, or adapt it to receive more types of
newswires (I'd love to know about that!).

Noticias may not be sold. All rights are retained by me. However, any person
or institution may use Noticias to receive newswires if they wish, at no
cost.
Noticias may be freely distributed as well. Please note Noticias is an
unsupported product.

LIMITATIONS

Noticias is capable of receiving data from one newswire at a time, using the
modem or printer port, or any port compatible with the Communications
Toolbox.
Noticias knows how to receive the agencies Reuters and EFE. Since Reuters uses
the stardard ANPA 1312, it should be relatively easy to adapt the stack to
receive other wires as well.

Noticias was originally developed in Chile, a Spanish-speaking country, so
most of its user interface is in Spanish. The HyperTalk code is mostly
commented in English though.

CONTENTS

The posting contains the stack Noticias, a Read Me file, some demo data to
simulate the reception of a newswire (if you don't have a parabolic antenna
on your roof), and the source code to a number of XCMDs that translate ASCII
character sets and help in parsing messages. They are in MPW 68000 assembly.

Have fun!

-- Thomas Fruin                                    thomas@camino.mic.cl

[Archived as /info-mac/card/noticias.hqx; 132K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:54 EST
From: Jason Osborne <V065HJKU@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: [*] Phaedrus, a truetype font

This is a new truetype font called Phaedrus.  It is a very nice
looking text font.  It has been compressed via compact pro 1.33.
This is uploaded by the Underground Phont Archive.

You can see what this and every other truetype font in the internet
world looks like by downloading font-preview.hqx.  It is located
at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the info-mac/font directory.

For more information on the Underground Phont Archive, you can drop
me a note via email at: v065hjku@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu.

Enjoy!
Jason Osborne
 --------------------------------------------------------------

[Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/phaedrus.hqx; 77K]

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Date: 29 Jul 1992 09:02:08 -0700
From: Brad_Stone@byu.edu
Subject: [*] Rebuild Desktop on Novell w/ Sys 7 (A)


  Last week I posted a query requesting information on how to rebuild the
desktop on a Novell fileserver using System 7.  Thanks to Chris Webster
<WEBSTER@AC.DAL.CA>, Georg.Denk@MATHEMATIK.TU-MUENCHEN.DBP.DE, "Dwight
Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>, and
Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca for their help.

A summary of responses follows:

[Archive as /info-mac/report/rebuild-desktop/novell.txt; 7K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:35:51 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: [*] startupscreens & deskpictures FAQ

Over the last several months I've posted quite a few startupscreens to
info-mac. One consequence of this is to get a flood of email asking questions
about how to use the screens, how to create them and so on. The following is a
list of answers to the most common questions.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/startup-deskpict-faq.txt; 7K]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:25:57 +0200
From: "GWDGV1::WKIBBE" <wkibbe@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de>
Subject: [*] Vendor-email addresses/FAX & BBS #s/FTP site list: 240 entries!

Version 1.2 of the Vendor Email, BBS, FTP site and FAX  list!
More than 240 Vendors now listed!

Enclosed is a binhex4-encoded file containing a self-extracting folder with
three files in Word 4/5, Excel 2.2 and tab-delimited text format.  Each file
contains a list of Email, BBS, FAX numbers and FTP sites for Macintosh
vendors. Depending on your needs, feel free to delete the others: other than
formatting they are identical!

My goal with this list is to maintain an accurate and up-to-date list of
those companies that are on the internet or an internet-reachable service. I
have considered making a list with sales, tech support, and 1-(800) numbers,
but since my primary interest is in maintaining a list that is usable to
those of us who do NOT live in the U.S.A, and secondarily to promote those
forward-thinking companies who currently use electronic services, I will
limit myself to those companies making or selling Macintosh hardware or
software that maintain a BBS or active Email presence.

I have the vendors entered alphabetically, without street addresses or
information regarding their products. I have a partial listing of AOL
addresses FAX numbers and FTP sites: please send me any appropriate
information that you might have!

June 1, 1992: Version 1.0  First list sent out:
July 2, 1992: Version 1.01 Corrections and a few additions
July 14, 1992: Version 1.1 Partial list of AOL addresses, FTP sites and FAX
  numbers added.
July 24, 1992: Version 1.2 More than 240 vendors are now listed!

I have taken most of these addresses either from companies whom I deal with
directly, from the August, 1991 article in MacUser (pages 242 to 244), or
gleaned over the past months from Info-mac. I have received corrections and
additions from the following people. Thank you all!

Warren Kibbe

WKibbe@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de

July 24th, 1992

 ----------- Vendor Email address, FAX, FTP and BBS lists follow ---------

[Archived as /info-mac/report/vendor-emails.hqx; 92K]

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:41:58 GMT
From: "R.E.Jones" <rej@ukc.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] Z specification language ps font

This is a fairly simple font for the Z specification language.
It is based on the notation used in Hayes' Specification Case Studies.
(I know that Spivey would be a better basis, but the font
pre-dates that.)

I created it myself using Fontographer because I needed it for
our examinations papers. I am most definitely not a professional
type designer, so I make few claims about the font.
However it is adequate for the job. In particular it looks OK on paper;
on the screen at small sizes glyphs are not always as clear as they might be
(lack of pixels to play with).
As I have had several requests for it, I have decided to make it more
publicly available.

This archive contains two files: Z and Z.bmap.
Z is the PostScript version and Z.bmap is a bitmap.
Put Z wherever you put your PostScript font files (e.g. the Extensions
Folder) and Z.bmap where you put bitmap fonts (e.g. in the System
file, or in a Suitcase file or whatever).

I hope that you find the font useful. If it has any deficiencies
(other than aesthetic!) or you have any other comments, please
let me know -- I may even fix things.

LICENSE AGREEMENT
This font is free but not in the public domain and the copyright remains
with the author, Richard Jones. However you may copy and
distribute the font provided that you include a copy of this
license agreement.
(C) Richard Jones, 1992

Richard Jones


[Archived as /info-mac/font/z-specification.hqx; 27K]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:00:29 CDT
From: johnw@pro-ren.cts.com (John Withers)
Subject: A How-to question about LISTSERV

Hello all.

Since being enlightened about the use and availability of the
list server (LISTSERV@RiceVM1.Rice.Edu), I have been happlily
retrieving interesting files for use on my Mac at home.  Now
for the problem:  my latest request was answered by a message
indicating that the file may not pass through some mail gateways
(this I understand) and that I had exceeded some sort of quota
for retrieving files.  The file I'm attempting to retrieve is
apparently larger than my 'quota'.  The question:  in the
light of this revelation, is there any way to retrieve these
large files?

John Withers
johnw@pro-ren.cts.com

P.S.  Before you ask, no - I don't have direct Internet (FTP)
access to anywhere.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:57:55 EDT
From: "J. Burke" <CSLIBSHP@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject: Amnesiac Mac (Q)

I need suggestions as to why my Mac keeps losing its memory. Literally. When
booting, the mac does not do the memory test, but immediately displays a
flashing disk with questionmark icon.  It rejects system disks, whether in
the external or internal drives.  This is an intermittent problem (big fun!)
which is getting worse. It has seemingly been solved in the past (temporarily)
by a)replacing mouse with pin missing from connector, b)fooling with SCSI
chain
c)pulling battery for a minute and replacing. It has been in the shop once for
this, and they found nothing - suggested termination error. Well, it still
happens with NO SCSI devices attached, and the battery  trick isn't working
anymore. . . help me before I give up and  buy a PC . . .
PS it's an ungrateful Mac Plus which has hardly been used. The stuff I've
bought for it! It has 4M of memory.  Could this be a memory failure?
Jools.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:49:39 cdt
From: David Bourne <david-bourne@uokhsc.edu>
Subject: Apple - Mac Transfers

> Subject: Apple II -> Mac
>
> Anyone with experience sending files from an Apple IIe (or IIc) to a Mac -
> could they send me the best approach.  Is a null modem cable the way to go?
> Is there a File Exchange translator at Apple.com?  (I do not have a 5 1/4
> drive
> for the Mac, needless to say!)  Any info appreciated.
When I first started with the Mac I used a three wire connection from Apple
serial port to Mac serial port. All you need is ground, data in, and data
out. Reverse the data in/out (null modem). Then run a terminal emulation
program on each machine. I was running Kermit on both at one time but other
programs with xmodem etc are easier. You can run the baud rate up pretty
high.

These days with a GS running system 6 you can mount the Mac disk on the Apple
GS. Drag to copy.

File format is another problem. Claris should have some translaters for
AppleWorks etc, but everything I tried was ASCII.

Good luck
David Bourne
OU HSC College of Pharmacy
1110 N. Stonewall Ave
Oklahoma City, OK, 73117-1223
(405) 271-6471
david-bourne@uokhsc.edu

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:54:04 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Apple II -> Mac

On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:29 IST you said:
>Anyone with experience sending files from an Apple IIe (or IIc) to a Mac -
>could they send me the best approach.  Is a null modem cable the way to go?
>Is there a File Exchange translator at Apple.com?  (I do not have a 5 1/4
>drive for the Mac, needless to say!).

Sounds familiar; no 3.5 inch drive for the Apple //e (just like me).
If you can find an Apple 2 with both size drives, then copy to 3.5 inch
ProDOS disks and AFE will read them.  Otherwise, get a copy of Apple 2
Kermit, Mac Kermit, and a null modem.  Tell MacKermit to "be a server"
and Kermit will batch transfer (send *.* from the Apple 2) at 19.2K.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:41:06 EDT
From: psz@lcs.mit.edu
Subject: bad tape drive

I bought an HP DAT drive from APS recently and they shipped an old
version of Retrospect (v. 1.3A) which did not properly support the
drive.  Tech support at Dantz was confused and told me they thought it
should work fine, but I was having problems with the built-in
compression of the drive.  More talk with APS tech support yielded a
newer Retrospect (v. 1.3B), which works fine.  The only ohter
Retrospect problem I have seen that might relate was when I had an old
Silverlining driver (v. 5.17) that didn't work right under Sys 7 and
gave me #206 errors (and other disasters).  V. 5.31 fixed it.
Hope this helps.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:42:51 EST
From: "Terence R. Slywka" <TSLYWKA@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Classic II, monitor settings (Q)

Can the Classic II monitor/color be set for anything other than
black and white?  Are different shades available??  If anyone knows,
please respond to me directly.  Thanks

Terence Slywka
Indiana University

P.S.  Thanks to everyone that responded to my question about the international
keyboards.

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:25:46 CDT
From: wolfmc@green.rtsg.mot.com (Michael Wolf)
Subject: CMarker demo, want it but do not have ftp access, help.

I have heard about a demo of a utility for Think C called CMarker I believe.

I would like to obtain the demo to see if it lives up to expectations.  The
problem is that I do not have ftp access, so, email is the only way that I can
obtain it.  If someone could email me a binhexed version of it, I would be
very appreciative.

Thanks.

MJW
green.rtsg.mot.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:59:25 PDT
From: Bill Lipa <lipa@camis.stanford.edu>
Subject: CMaster

Anyone who uses Think C frequently should seriously consider purchasing
CMaster, an amazing and incredibly useful product from Jersey Scientific. I
was alerted to its greatness by the ReadMe file from Bolo (another amazing
piece of software). It extends the Think C editing environment in all sorts of
ways, saving oodles of time.

For more info, see the Bolo readme or ask Jersey Scientific at
jersci@applelink.apple.com.

A satisfied user,

Bill Lipa
lipa@camis.stanford.edu

------------------------------

Date: 30 Jul 1992 04:03:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: Color StartupScreen (A)

  >I am having the StartupScreen on my Mac IIcx (System 7.0)
  >display color startup screens. I have tried them from Canvas
  >and Gifconverter software.
  >
  >Is there a command I need to use to reset something?

There are two StartupScreen formats. One in B & W and the other 8-bit
color.
In GIFConverter select "Options" from the "Special" menu and under
"StartupScreens" click the "Color" button.
Use the pop-down menu in the Save dialog box to save the file in
StartupScreen format with the name "StartupScreen". <No quotes, of
course>.  Place the file in the System folder and restart.
If the screen still appears in B & W, open the Monitors cdev and change it
to B & W then change it back to color. Restart.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:44:43 BST
From: Bernard Khoo <BCEK1@phx.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: DayMaker & its ilk -- comments?

I am considering buying DayMaker (or an alternative, Dynodex etc.).

Features that are important include:
 * a good alarming system (with provision for repeats, advance alarms etc.)
 * ability to output to Filofax pages
 * an outliner/ to-do list

Any experiences? Or is there a good freeware/shareware alternative?

Bernard Khoo.
University of Cambridge, UK.
BCEK1@uk.ac.cam.phx (UK order) or @phx.cam.ac.uk (World order)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:51 CST
From: Mark Rank <RANK@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject: Does anyone know what this error code means?

Does anyone know what an error 5454 in HyperCard means?

We have a stack here that quits on occasion with the
"very helpful" information that there is an error 5454.

It does not appear to be a system error (there is no
referance to it in System Errors 7.0.1), so my guess
is that it is a message being generated in HC.

Your help would be appreciated.

Mark Rank, Computer Tech.
Univ. Wisc. Platteville

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:55:25 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Engraving Devices

On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:54 CST you said:
>I have been informed by one of our office staff that campus security is
>going to engrave University property, including computer equipment, with
>one of those vibrating gadgets that etches some number into the
>equipment.  I need some advice--is this a good idea, to put the engraver
>on computer equipment?  Could it damage the hard drive or anything else?
>What do you think--would you do it?

Our security people stencil on a large ugly sign in indelible ink.
Vibration probably isn't such a good idea.  A shut down system has the
disk heads parked, so the drive *should* take it (not MY drive, you
understand).  More to the point is all the other stuff inside that can
be vibrated loose.  Interesting thought: those dudes with their stun
guns could silence a whole room for of IIsi's, huh? ;-)  Why is their
engraved ID number any better than the serial number that Apple put on
the equipment (keep records).  No legitimate service organization would
touch a machine with an obliterated serial.

Who pays for the repairs if it turns out to be a bad idea?  I'd make
sure that the workstation assigned to me is the last one engraved (see
if everyone else's computer survives :)

Someone told me a story about a receiving clerk a few years back who
dutifully pressure embossed each and every one of an order of 1,000 5.25
inch floppy disks with the company's "property of" ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:27 EST
From: Irv Wiswall <WISWALL@UNCA.EDU>
Subject: Engraving Devices (A)

I don't know if a vibrating etching device will cause problems on computer
equipment or not, but let me share our method of marking equipment.  We
purchased a branding iron originally made for marking workworking projects.
Ours says something like Property of University of North Carolina Asheville.
It also has the phone number of campus security.  Marking equipment is very
quick.  On the down side, it does take a bit of practice to do a nice job (now
you know what to do with all that obsolete equipment!).  It also makes quite a
stink.  As I recall the device costs about $50 - $75.  I'd be happy to look up
the supplier if anyone is interested.

Another method I've seen is to use the kind of ingraving equipment used to
make
plastic signs.  You know, things like name plates, room numbers, etc.  This
does a very atractive job, but takes more time.

Neither method will work on metal cases.

Irv Wiswall                            | 704 251 6445
University of North Carolina Asheville | wiswall@unca.edu


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:47:56 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Engraving Devices (R)

The high school in berkeley goes one step further and they brand their
computing equipment. Aaah the nice aroma of sizzling plastic. For sure
there is no way you are going to sand down the plastic enough to remove
their brand. They brand everything right on the front where it is very
visible. I think the sheer ugliness of it discourages many potential
theives.

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:56:33 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (A)

On 29 Jul 92 06:26:59 GMT you said:
>Our dealer in Tokyo has told us that we are not to have KanjiTalk and
>English System 7 on the same hard disk partition.  We haven't really
>investigated why though.  Without knowing the details of the problem, I
>vote for running the two systems on different partiions.

Dealers always say that; it's a primal reflex.  When you have a serious
software problem, how much help is your dealer?  The same dealer
probably tells you you have to have AppleTalk connectors to use a
PostScript LaserWriter (the cheapo serial cable works just fine if all
you have to connect is one Mac to one LaserWriter).

Evidently, there are some (obscure, I think) circumstances which might
confuse the startup sequence on a Mac with two system folders on a HD
(the fix is boot from a floppy and take one of the Finders out of the
Folder with System; then the other System Folder will boot).  Lots of us
have had two (or more) System Folders in one volume without ill effect.
My personal favorite for managing such a volume is
info-mac/util/system-switcher-11.hqx because it has a more Mac-like
interface than the alternatives.

------------------------------

Date: 30 Jul 92 05:30:56 GMT
From: attjp4!lss@attjpn.attmail.com
Subject: Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (A)

Well, we don't want to have both OS's on the same hard disk so that's why we
didn't push the point.  We also want to avoid problems since our Macs are used
for things with tight deadlines.  (The Japanese customer can be very
demanding, as they say.)

I did call Apple Japan yesterday to investigate your question but the response
was so poor I decided not to mention it.  I just called an American guy I know
at Apple today and got a better answer: It should be NO PROBLEM having both
systems on the same partition but System 7 may rebuild the desktop when it
boots up.  He also said that System 7.1 will support a Japanese language
module that will sit in the extentions folder.  (This sounds a little like
SweetJAM concept.)  Apple will release several language modules using both
one and two byte characters.  This solution may mean that we won't have to
have two OS's anymore!

Best Regards,

Larry Staples <lss@attjpn.attmail.com>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:12:22 PDT
From: gerhard@rana.usc.edu
Subject: Executor $ (Q)

There have been several recent comments
regarding Executor.  How much does this
thing cost?


Peter Gerhardstein (gerhard@rana.usc.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:38:45 +0300
From: josh@amotz.huji.ac.il ( Joshua Lieberman)
Subject: Finder pathology

Here is a new case study in Mac pathology for all you forensic experts. A
Mac SE/30, System 7.0.1, Tuner 1.1.1, Internal  HD40, external APS 105,
Disk Doubler and no other extensions. Occasionally, an attempt to open a
folder or copy a file (particularly copying fonts) produces a rapidly
blinking rectangular doughnut (black-on-white or gray-on-gray rim with
white center, total ~80x40 pixels) in the center of the screen. This
appears for 5 seconds, disappears, then reappears for 10 seconds. Afterwards
the finder operation proceeds, but another operation shortly after this
will almost invariably result in an eternal wristwatch. The machine is not
hung, there are occasional short accesses of the internal drive, and
pressing command-option-escape brings up a "quit the finder?" dialog no
matter which application the file operation is being performed from. The
result of this dialog is always a crash. After reboot, the external drive
usually does not mount until after a second or third reboot. This behavior
occurs whether the machine is booted from internal HD, external HD, or a
floppy. After this episode, finder operations will frequently hand as
described above, and Disk First Aid finds damage on one or more drives. I
should also mention that the APS is partitioned into three parts with the
APS (Apollyonics) driver. Repairing with DFA, zapping PRAM, and/or rewriting
the partition map variously solve the problem temporarily, but it soon

reappears.

Any ideas?

Joshua Lieberman, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel
josh@vms.huji.ac.il

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:39:16 EDT
From: grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil (William Grant)
Subject: Finding a Venice Equivalent

	Does anyone know where I can find an equivalent to the old
Venice font?
       Please reply direct to me at "grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil" and
I will summarize for info-mac.

Liam Grant, NRL, Code 5541, Washington, DC 20375-5000, (202) 767-2392

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:47:58 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: HD Case and Power Supply (R)

>Where can I buy the case and power supply I need to convert a spare
>internal hard drive into an external HD? The source mentioned in
>I-M Digest V. 10 Issue 148 (Western Systems) does not have power
>supplies at this time.
>

I've done this several times now and the best source I have found is the
place where you would take your drive to get repaired if it had died.
Frequently they have the cases of dead drives that people decided not to
bother fixing.

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:58:44 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: how to subscribe to Vaporware

On Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:55:34 PST you said:
>Does anyone know how to subscribe to the Vaporware listserv?

I try hard to avoid a manual subscriber list by distributing the column
through as many of the major micro lists as I can find info-mac,
info-ibmpc, info-apple2, comp.sys.amiga, I-AMIGA, and info-micro.  Info-micro
is a fairly low volume list that usually carries the column (I subscribe
myself and must admit that it doesn't seem to arrive EVERY month).  The
column is available by ftp in the /info-mac/digest/ directory at
Sumex-Aim.Stanford.Edu.  I generally mail the last few days of the month,
and unless there's a mail screw-up, the column is in info-mac archive by
the first.

Info-Micro is LISTSERV list DIST-MIC (subscribe at any handy LISTSERV) or
on the Internet, ask info-micro-request@WSMR-SimteL20.Army.MiL).

You can complain to me in person at the User Group breakfast or the
Internet dinner in Boston next week (or on the floor of MacWorld--I've
got my TidBITs button and I plann to get one of those UConn "Hello I'm"
stickers and put SEWALL@UCONNVM on it ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:26 N
From: <HEWAT%FRILL53.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> (HEWAT@FRILL.BITNET FAX
FRANCE[33] 76-48-39...)
Subject: How to wake a remote sleeping powerbook (answer)

Distribution-File:
	info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu

>> >I need a way for quick keys to wake my sleeping powerbook automaticly ...
>>
>  i set up a sequence to auto dload my mail from home and i dont want to
leave
>  the powerbook on all the time
>
>> When you put a PB to sleep the processor and HD shut down.  The only thing
>> that's "on" is RAM (and presumably a sensor that will powerup the PB when
>> a key is hit).  There's no way to read a clock that's not running.
>
>  And you can't do it with AppleEvents across a network, either.  In fact,
>  I know of no software-only way to wake a sleeping PowerBook.  Nor could
>  Apple DTS suggest anything, the last time I checked in with them.

According to the Apple Powerbook Solutions Guide (on Sumex) several PB modems
can wake a sleeping powerbook i.e. its a hardware/software solution, but then
if the guys at home, he has to use a modem anyway. And there's PowerKey
Remote.

The PowerModem PSI Integration, Inc. $299
The PowerPort/9624  Global Village Communication $295

PowerKey Remote is an ADB device that can turn on a Macintosh computer
with a phone call. PowerKey Remote electronically presses the Power On
key when it receives a ring signal on a standard telephone line.
Sophisticated Circuits $49

I have no experience of any of these products.

Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, France (email hewat@frill.bitnet)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:46:21 -0700
From: "Carl L. Gay" <cgay@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: IIsi sound problem (summary)

All replies I got said approximately the same thing.  Following is my
question and the most complete reply.  I've done the procedure below
and so far haven't noticed the sound problem.  By the way, the little
green light on the front of the IIsi is also connected through one of
these pressure contacts, and this explains why mine was blinking on
and off occasionally.

 -------- forwarded message ---------
Date: 30 Jul 1992 04:07:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)

  > My IIsi frequently stops making system beep sounds and I
  >have to go to the Sound control panel and play around with
  >it (increasing the volume usually works) before it will beep
  >again. I don't have any special sound software; just System
  >7.0. How can I fix this?

The IIsi speaker has a pressure contact with the underside of the
motherboard. Oxidation seems to form on the speaker contacts and
cleaning them is the only permanent way to fix the problem.  A
temporary fix is an Fkey that jumps the sound up to the maximum -
beeps once - then returns the sound level to where you had it set.
It's at mac.archive.umich.edu as
mac/system.extensions/fkey/twosisoundfix1.0.sit.hqx

To clean the contacts, first remove the top by lifting the tabs at the
back corners and pulling the top straight up.  Touch the power supply
(the big silver thing at the rear right of the box) to discharge any
static electricity.  Next, remove the hard disk by carefully pulling
back the two plastic clips on the sides that hold it in place. There's
no need to unplug the disk.  The speaker faces downward and the
contacts slip under the mother board.  It is held in place by four
plastic clips. Squeeze the clips to release the speaker. Remove the
speaker by pulling it towards the front of the box.  Clean the
contacts with a pencil eraser or a small file <gently>.  Carefully
bend the contacts upwards for better contact with the motherboard.
Slip the speaker contacts back under the motherboard and push down
gently to get the speaker back under the four plastic clips. Replace
the hard disk. It should snap into place.  I did this about 10 months
ago and haven't had any problems since.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:43:31 -0400
From: Dave Saunders <inter01@worldlink.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #182

> I'm trying to install Eudora 1.3b34 with MacTCP 1.1 on a Mac Plus running
> System 6.0.5. Whenever the application tries to talk to the pop server or
> tries to send mail it either times out trying to make a connection or
> complains that TCP is playing up.
>
> If anybody has had success with this combination could they please mail me
> direct.
.
.
.
>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:08:31 BST
> From: K.C.Quick@open.ac.uk
> Subject: Eudora (Q)
>
> Following my earlier submission about Eudora I'm pleased to say that I have
> now cured the problem.
>
> Using MacTCP+ tools fixed it.

MacTCP 1.1 has problems running on most 8Mhz machines (Plus, SE, Classic) for
a rather basic reason--they're too slow to handle the overhead required to
run MacTCP. (The reason is a bit more technical, but that's what it boils
down to.)

The MacTCP 1.1+ Tool modifies MacTCP to operate a little more efficiently and
is usually all you need to get MacTCP running on your Plus. This solution is
not perfect as the modifications are not significant enough to work if you
want to run 50+ other INITs. If you want MacTCP to run on a slow machine, you
will need to trim your system back otherwise your Plus will hose itself.

Dave Saunders <dave@intercon.com>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:35 CST
From: PAI@UWSTOUT.EDU
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #182

Hi,

Thanks for yr. help and advise on FTP a few days ago. I did, with
a slightly more experienced colleague transfer the file archived
>on Info-Mac today. Now the file is on the Mac HD but double clicking
kicks up a dialog box "The apllication is busy ....blah, blah".

Any suggestions. This lady FTP's Disinfectant the same way and has
never had any problems.

Tks

Ananth

------------------------------

Date: 29 Jul 92 18:07:34 U
From: Evans-IM-IS <evans-im-is%micmac@redstone-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: Is it just me ?

I am having problem with my printouts to a deskwriter from tn3270 version
2.3d26.  The deskwriter drivers are version 3.1 appletalk.  Mac is
IIsi/sys7/tuned....  When printing to the deskwriter from tn3270 I get an
error
-50  (paramerr - error in user parameter list) or an error -5025
(afpobjecttyperr - afp object type error).
I get these errors even with extensions off.  I do not get these errors when
background printing was turned off, but the print out is garbage.
I spent almost a whole year waiting for HP to fix the problem with deskwriters
printing from NCSA telnet (thanx BYU for making the fix for them).
Any suggestions?... (other than calling HP...they didn't help last time why
should they help this time :(   <---------flame off
Is it just me ... can anyone else produce good printouts?
I hope its just something I am over looking :-)
Thanx
Troy

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:01:30 GMT
From: Mark Henry <HENRYC93%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: LC Enhancements

For information on add-on boards for your LCs, those readers in the
UK and Europe might like to get hold of the latest issue of MacUser (UK)
which surveys a collection of such boards for the LC, SE and Classic.

Some 030 boards support the virtual memory, some don't.

The only problem on an LC is that with only one extension slot you will
not be able to use something like an Ethernet card in the same computer.

Take care,

Mark Henry
University College Dublin.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:45:54 -0400
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Macbugs INIT

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>The INIT "Macsbug";  How can it help me, and how would I use it?  I thought I
>would ask before I just threw it into the exetnsion folder and rebooted to
see
>what happens.  I have a copy of the INIT and have no documentation to go with
>it.  I know its not a bought product (ie: pirated software) since a folder
>sits
>on apple.com ( I have not had the time to download it to see if there is
>documentation).  I spent the time to download bugsreporter and after reading
>the docs found out I just wasted my time.

If you're using System 7 (which I guess you must be, if you have an
extensions folder), try using Balloon Help on it.  MacsBug is a
system-level debugger.  It goes into the system folder (Not the
extensions folder, it isn't an _extension_ per se.) and is loaded when
the Mac boots.

	-=Alan

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:13 CDT
From: <GM07661%SWTEXAS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Mac Networking (A)

From: Dan Dalal <DALAL%SCU.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: MAC IIci/Quadra networking questions

	We are planning on brining up a network of about 17 mac iicis and
	about 3 quadra 700 systems to the general user community here at
	the University. All systems are running system 7.0.1.

	Three main questions.

	1. Is there a pd/shareware program out there that allows us
	(via a novell fileserver) to delete any files,folders, etc.
	created by a user while he's using one of these macs ? Like a
	ERASE *.* in DOS, but goes down a tree and also blows away the root ?

		there is an application called RevRdist that will allow
		you to remove unwanteds and restore the system files and
		apps from an image on the server.  i believe this is freeware
		and is available from  j.cc.purdue.edu (/pub/mac).

		more time consuming and costly would be timbuktu or carbon
		copy, which allow you to take remote control of any machine
		with the software loaded in it on your network.

	2. In Novell(or appletalk), can you set up folders, files,etc. to
	be write-locked and un-deletable ? I know about the "locked" check-
	box when you do a option-I(information) on a particular file...

		with novell you can set file attributes (delete inhibit,
		copy inhibit, read only, shareable etc) to files and dir
		attributes for directories.  this only pertains to the
		server volumes and not individual hard drives.  for local
		folder locking try folder bolt or others.

	3. Can INITS be run/installed off of a fileserver, so that we can
	avoid installing these(ie. Gatekeeper, etc). on the individual Macs ?
	If so, how ?

		not unless you use RevRdist, which must be installed on the
		machine as well as the server, to update the individual macs
		from the *new* image (complete with inits, da's, cp's etc.).

		also there is a product from sonic systems that allows you
		to use a boot rom (DiskLess Mac) on your ethernet cards.
		this product will boot from an image on the server and then
		transfer the system files into a ram disk from the server.
		requires proprietary ethercards and 020 or better processors.

	thanks for any assistance.

	dan dalal
	santa clara university

	email - dalal@scu.bitnet


		Gordon Muth
		SWTexas State Univ.
		GM07661@SWTexas.bitnet

	ps- also try Macnet-l@yalevm for more Mac Networking Discussions.

------------------------------

Date: 29 Jul 1992 16:32:28 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: MacsBug INIT [A]

MacsBug INIT [A]
Evans-IM-IS <evans-im-is%micmac@redstone-emh2.army.mil asks what good the
MacsBug "INIT" is (BTW, it's not an INIT, per se, though it acts kind of like
one).

This is a debugger. It allows programmers to trace what their programs (or
other people's programs) are doing.

The most useful thing it can do for the general user is allow an easy
salvation
>From a crash. When a crash occurs (if it's a "clean" crash, which most are),
you will 'drop' into MacsBug and see a detailed screen. You can then type:

ES <return>
That should kill the application which just crashed and put you in the
Finder.

EA <return>
That theoretically restarts the crashed program; don't hold your breath.

RS <return>
That restarts you 'safely', shutting down drives safely.

RB <return>
This restarts you instantly without first shutting down drives. It's not less
safe than RS but it might take longer to restart.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:25:00 PST
From: Michael_Kessler.Hum@mailgate.sfsu.edu
Subject: Mac SE System 7 & 3Com

My apologies to those who receive a double mailing.  Here is my problem: I
can install system 7.0 on a Mac SE with no problem, but I am incapable of
linking that SE to network directories.  I can see the drive come up behind
the chooser window, but the cursor freezes and I have to restart the Mac.
I am using Etherlink SE 2.0 (the system 7 Mac does not recognize 1.2 or
earlier versions).  Has anyone had a similar problem and found a solution?

Thanks,
Michael_Kessler@HUM:SFSU:EDU

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:21:41 CDT
From: CB Lih <CBLIH@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
Subject: MacWorld schedule

Hello,
  Can anyone tell me the site for the keynote presentations on at MacWorld
Expo August 4?  The conference schedule they sent with my (all important)
badge holder gives a time and a subject but I can't find a location.  I
would appreciate a direct reply in case I don't get an opportunity to see
it in the Digest.
		 Thanks,


CB Lih       BITNET: cblih@uafsysb  Internet: cblih@uafsysb.uark.edu

------------------------------

Date: 29 Jul 1992 16:40:23 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: MCI Access [A]

MCI Access [A]
"Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> asks how to
send
mail from the Internet to MCI. From Time Cera's (tim@ufcia.health.ufl.edu)
helpful mail gateways listing comes:

Internet to mci
Recipient's address: John Smith (123-4567)
send to "1234567@mcimail.com"
or send to "JSMITH@mcimail.com" if "JSMITH" is unique
or send to "John_Smith@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is unique - note the
underscore!
or send to "John_Smith/1234567@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is NOT unique

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:34:50 PDT
From: sheckler@leland.stanford.edu (Steven Heckler)
Subject: Middlebury IP Address

    Many thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier posting.  The IP
address for MIDD, the main Middlebury mainframe, is 140.233.1.2.

     This weekend, when I am bck in Florida and have access to my Mac, I will
cut and paste a compilation of the wonderful information people sent me on how
to look up Internet and Bitnet addresses, and other goodies.

     Thanks again for everyone 's help!

					Steve Heckler

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:58:12 PDT
From: MARKKU@HTI.dnet.hac.com
Subject: Mode32

DEAR INFO-MAC,
	I just spoke to the technical support people at Connetix,
and I was informed that version 1.2 of Mode32 will be the last
version that Connetix will release due to the agreement with Apple.
	I was wondering if it was possible to incorporate the same
feature of the System 7 tuner into Mode32.  The feature I am talking
about is even when the shift key is pressed System 7 tuner 1.1.1
will still load and take effect.  I would like to have Mode32 do the
same with the shift key depressed.  Currently with the shift key
pressed all extensions will not load, and if I restart sometimes
Mode32 will be in the disabled mode (i.e. with an 'X' on the icon
during startup).
	Does anyone know how to do this, or know how to contact
Apple to make suggestion to have this feature incorporated.
	Thanks,
	Ed Kao   Kao@HTI.HAC.COM  or Markku@HTI.HAC.COM

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:28:34 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject: Multimedia video card choices?

Greetings all,

What is the current favorite board for doing the following two operations:  1)
playing video from a LaserDisc or other outside source into a window on the
Macintosh screen under HyperCard and SuperCard, and 2) making QuickTime
movies?
I was leaning toward the VideoSpigot, but I talked to their technical
department today and they said it is not a great choice for playing live video
into a window under XCMD control and that they did not have XCMDs to do so.
Now I'm leaning toward the RasterOps 24STV card.

Any thoughts or comments out there?  If you could respond directly to me I
will
summarize.  I always read Info-Mac, but the Mac-L list traffic finally
overwhelmed me and I had to unsubscribe, though there is a lot of good
information there.  Thanks!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:23:43 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Need a PB 'Sleep' password

I've got a member of our user group who is becoming a pest trying to
"explore" (and sometimes copy) folders on my PB every time I turn around
for a moment.  There are a couple of password routines that request a
password one or a few times and shutdown if the correct answer isn't
given.

I'd rather not go through the restart.  What I would like (if someone has
one or would care to write one) is a password routine that kicks in when
an attempt is made to wake the PB and if the wrong password is given, just
goes back to sleep.  It doesn't have to be fancy--I don't care if it can
be beaten by hitting the master resent and restarting (not so easy to do
on a PB anyway especially for one not familiar with the hardware).  Something
simple is less likely to conflict with other things anyway.

I know I can use After Dark's password capability, but that's a lot of RAM
to give up just to discourage a small nuisance.

/s Murph Sewall <Sewall@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:52:50 EDT
From: JLI%CWRCL.DECNET@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu
Subject: Nisus and Framemaker

Two word processing questions:

Two word processing questions:
does anyone know when the next version of Nisus will be out?
A totally unreliable sorce indicated that the next version
will have citation and re-citation capabilities.  Note I
said UNreliable.

Also:
Someone mentioned purchasing Framemaker at an Educational
discount price of around $300 on this very forum. Here at
Case Western Reserve the best price I could find was around
$500.  Anyone know where I can get the educational price
in the area.  (A further note...the reason I am asking
this is my not beleiving that Nisus will have citation
capabilities....

Thanks for the info....mike

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:55:01 -0400
From: "Tad Davis" <davist@a1.relay.upenn.edu>
Subject: Norton/Quicken continued

In response to my call for help, Murph Sewall suggested:

>My *guess* is that one or more of the three (invisible) FileSaver files
>has become corrupted.  Use ResEdit to make them visible (easy to spot,
>all three have names starting with 'Norton') so you can delete them (or
>delete them with MacTools FileEdit or some similar utility).  Then run
>FileSaver to make three new files from scratch and see if that doesn't
>return you to the state you had before the problem appeared.

I tried this, but to no avail. The problem remains. The pattern of
interaction seems obvious: Quicken is trying to delete its CheckFree temp
files, and Norton FileSaver is, for some reason, taking exception. (Or else
Quicken is taking exception to some perfectly reasonable action on Norton's
part.) I'm not knocking either program: they're both great, they've worked
together beautifully for weeks, this is obviously a problem with MY SYSTEM.

Will Porter suggested:

>...it may be time to wipe the hard disk clean and start from scratch. Have
>you tried running Norton's disk-diagnosis utility? I have had to replace my
>System files several times recently after hard crashes; and two weeks ago,
>reinitializing the hard disk was the only solution.

I have good backups (one of everything, and two separate backups of
critical documents), so I'm not TOO worried about having to do that --
apart from the nasty inconvenience of spending two or three hours putting
everything back together. (Norton and Disk First Aid, by the way, both give
my disk a clean bill of health now.) The reasons for (possibly) having to
reformat disturb me for another reason. It means, ultimately, that there is
damage to my system that (a) can't be detected by Apple's own disk repair
utility, by the hard disk vendor's drive-formatting utility, or by a
top-rated commercial alternative; (b) can't be explained by either vendor's
technical support staff after repeated phone calls; and (c) can't be erased
by deleting all relevant software -- including all hidden and visible
preferences and data files -- and starting from scratch.

I find this thought quite scary. There are two things at the center of my
intellectual life: my books and my Mac. I have yet to find a problem with a
book that required tearing out all the pages and putting them back in
again. (Maybe when Macs have been around for 3000 years, the technology
will be perfected....)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep you posted. Anybody want to take bets
that this turns out to be something simple and REALLY stupid?

Tad Davis
davist@a1.relay.upenn.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:58:07 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Norton FileSaver/Quicken?

On Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:34:01 -0400 you said:
>I've been using Quicken to transmit payments to CheckFree for two
>months, with Norton Filesaver running in the background, and with no
>problem. Suddenly after doing three things to my system, the
>transmission consistently bombs at the same point: after "receiving
>confirmation" from CheckFree but BEFORE the Quicken file is updated to
>reflect it.  What I've tried: re-installing both Quicken (absolutely
>latest version, guaranteed, from Intuit) and FileSaver.

My *guess* is that one or more of the three (invisible) FileSaver files
has become corrupted.  Use ResEdit to make them visible (easy to spot,
all three have names starting with 'Norton') so you can delete them (or
delete them with MacTools FileEdit or some similar utility).  Then run
FileSaver to make three new files from scratch and see if that doesn't
return you to the state you had before the problem appeared.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:01:21 -0600
From: sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart)
Subject: Postal barcode info?

Does anyone have a program that will generate postal barcodes *or* know
what (or where) the key to the codes is?  It would save a lot of time and
hassle for me.

Shawn Barnhart/sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu/U of Mn P.R.

------------------------------

Date: 30 Jul 92 08:21:03 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Postscript Problems in Page

		       Subject:
		       Postscript Problems in PageMaker
I'm having a problem printing from PM 4.2 to a LaserWriter IIf printer.  The
situation:  I've created a document that I'm trying to print using manual
feed,
landscape orientation, and legal paper.  I've chosen Legal with Wide
orientation in the Page Setup box and Legal from the Paper option within the
Print dialog box.  When I try to print, it brings up the standard messages box
("Starting printer query", etc.) and then it pops up an error dialog saying:
"Cannot print.  A PostScript error has occurred.  Please try to print again."
along with the numbers 7301:5804 in the lower right corner.  Behind this is
the
standard message box, with the following message:  "%%[ Error:
configurationerror; Offending Command:  setpagedevice;  ErrorInfo: PageSize --
nostringval --]%%

I can print using the Apple printer driver, but I'd rather find out what's
going on with the Aldus driver.  The document doesn't contain any funky fonts
-- just Times and an occasional Zapf Dingbat.  System 7.0.1 with TuneUp 1.1.1
running on a Mac IIsi is the configuration I'm running under.  Does anyone
have
any ideas what is happening?  Please respond to me ASAP.  Thanks!  :-)

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:04:59 -0400
From: cfm@columbia.sparta.com
Subject: PowerBook 100 + Go*80

I've a question for anyone out there who might be able to help. I've recenly
upgraded my PB 100 to an 80 Mbyte drive. The problem is that it seems to take
forever (or about 25 seconds) for the drive to wake up. I never really noticed
it
taking too long with the Conner (maybe 10 secs.). I've tried it without any
extensions loaded, or with the supplied SCSI tools, but no difference.

The basic symptom is: drive comes back on line (usually to bong the clock, or
prompt me to save a document), everything stops (except the mouse which
happily moves all over the screen but is powerless to do anything) while the
drive spins up (Whirrrrrrr) [1-2 secs] the heads are flown (chatter..
chatter..
rat-a-tat..  rat-a-tat.. chatter..  chatter) [another 1-2 secs] and then it
just spins
(whirrrrrrrrrrr) for an eternity (or a 20 second approximation of it), then
everything starts going again. All of the mouse events in the intervening time
are then executed, but about 1/3 of the keystrokes are lost.

Other than this "problem" the drive is wonderful, much faster and quieter than
the Conner (which sounded like the platter was being dragged across the
inside of the drive cover (SQUEALLLLL,SCRATCH,SCRATCH,flup,flup,SQUEALLL).

Anyone with any insights or potential solutions please drop me a line.

carl.

ps. When plugged into Potomac Edison, I have the Portable CP set to not
shutdown, so its only a problem when running off the battery.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:30 +0800
From: IANHART@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: Powerbook fax-modem

Replying to a question 6 or 7 bulletins ago regarding using the US
modem in the UK.  I'be just had this problem here in Hong Kong, which
uses the British system.

The local Apple distributors simply changed the US plug on one end
to a Hong Kong plug (larger) and twisted the wires. The active wires
in the US are 1 & 4, in Hong Kong (and I believe Britain) they are
2 & 3.

You don't need one of those grey dangling boxes which are part of the
UK Fax-Modem kit.

Ian Hart
ianhart@hkucc.hku.hk

------------------------------

Date: 30 Jul 92 05:44 GMT
From: KAGI.KEE@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Kagi Eng, Kee Nethery,PRT)
Subject: PowerSwitch LT beta tests (Q)

Radiant Enterprises in San Francisco is looking for some large Mac sites to
beta test its latest product, the PowerSwitch LT. The PowerSwitch LT is
basically a 15 amp 120vac power switch that is controllable via localtalk. The
configuration we want to test is it's LaserWriter mode where it turns off
LaserWriters that have not been communicated with within a  time period set by
the user (2 minutes to 2 hours) and then turns the LaserWriter back on when a
user prints to it. We are concerned with how users will react to the
PowerSwitch in a large office where the LaserWriters normally stay on 24 hours
a day 365 days per year.

We are looking for sites that are large enough to feel that it's too much of a
hassle to turn off LaserWriters at night. We want to test the PowerSwitch LT
with all the various spoolers out there (Vax, CAP, etc.) We'd like to test it
with non-Apple LaserWriters. We are also looking for Quebec and Japanese test
sites to provide extra feedback on the documentation.

If your site has these features, and you are interested in testing it for us,
please contact Kee Nethery and describe your situation; estimated number and
types of LaserWriters, types of spoolers, etc. Thanks,

Kee Nethery
kagi.kee@applelink.apple.com



------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:18:03 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Sound(?) files

On Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:58:55 EDT you said:
>I've downloaded a few files from the info-mac/sound directory.  Some
>worked fine (after de-hqxing, un-compacting, moving them to the system
>folder, etc.).  Some, though, appear to be documents, not sound files.
>"Get Info" says their documents (although I can't open them with
>Word) and their icons look like documents, not sounds (the opposite
>"corner" on the icon is folded).

I suspect this *may* be an early example of what may become an
increasingly common phenomenon.  Questions from someone who has NEVER
used System 6 (or earlier :-)

Assuming the files aren't from info-mac/sound/st :) the files may be in
one of several older formats.  All should be readable by Sound Mover
1.75: get info-mac/sound/program/sound-manager-package-175.hqx (when in
doubt, hold down the option key and then click the open button).  Also
included in the package is Sound Control 2.0 which, IMHO, beats the
socks off Sound Master (in spite of the incessant touting by Ziff
publications)  My sysbeep is one of 133 sounds (selected at random),
my disk eject is one of a half-dozen (different) sounds (also selected
at random.  The sounds are stored in (relatively) compact "suitcases" in
the System Folder (but NOT in System itself).  Version 2.0 is 32-bit
clean and stable (earlier versions had some flaky tendencies).

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:43:46 -0400
From: Dave Saunders <inter01@worldlink.com>
Subject: Sounds on the IIsi stop working

> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:48:36 -0700
> From: "Carl L. Gay" <cgay@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu>
> Subject: Sounds on the IIsi stop working
>
> My IIsi frequently stops making system beep sounds and I have to go to
> the Sound control panel and play around with it (increasing the volume
> usually works) before it will beep again.  I don't have any special
> sound software; just System 7.0.  How can I fix this?  Do I have to get
> some upgrade I didn't hear about?

This seems to be a common thing with si's... The odd part is that if you plug
an external speaker into your si, this doesn't occur.

One easy work around when your sound goes dead is to turn your sound all the
way up in the Sound Control Panel and then reset it to the original volume.
There is also an FKEY available "out there" that will do the same thing.

Dave Saunders <dave@intercon.com>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:26:14 -0500
From: Christopher Cotton <regis@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Sys7 boot disk for Quadras

In article <9207292307.AA13213@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>, you write:
>I read this with interest (and some surprise), but since a Sys7 bootup with
>Norton utilities on it would be useful gave it a shot.
>
>I discarded the Finder from my current minimal sys floppy, and replaced it
>with Norton, but my IIsi wouldn't accept it as a valid system boot disk on
>restart.  Did I miss something?

Yes.  You need to call it Finder.  And change the type and creator to be:

FNDR, and MACS.

Then it will launch that (and think it is launching the Finder).

.Chris

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:48:11 EDT
From: rlbro@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu (Roger Brooks)
Subject: Thanks for ResEdit Batching advice

Just a quick thanks to everyone who suggested using FileTyper 3.2 to carry
out batch processing of "UseCustomIcon" flags.  It works like a dream.
My shareware check is in the mail!

Roger Brooks
Connecticut College
rlbro@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:50 WET
From: "Alun J. Carr" <AJCARR%ccvax.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: The old, hoary subject of DeskWriter drivers (C)

Has anyone else noticed some of the more subtle differences
between the output generated by the DeskWriter 2.2 and 3.1
drivers when working with Word 5.0a and TrueType fonts? For
example:

*   With the old 2.2 driver, if large spaces occurred between
words in fully justified text, then the spacing between
characters (i.e. within words) on that line would be slightly
increased to reduce the width of the white spaces (TeX does this
as well, although it is forbidden in Hart's Rules, except for
narrow columns). The 3.1 driver doesn't do this any more, and
the output looks worse as a consequence (so much for Hart's
Rules!).

*   TrueType fonts appear less bold with the 2.2 driver than the
3.1 driver, and the characters in the Times font seem to be
*slightly* bigger with the 3.1 driver than 2.2, although the
same number of characters fit on a line. Is this a trick by HP
to use more ink and therfore to force people to buy more of
their shiny new double-capacity, awkward to refill, cartridges?

*   Subscripts and superscripts print with better positioning
using the 2.2 driver. With 3.1, there's a tendency to leave
aither too big a gap between a character and a subscripted
following character, or sometimes to leave too little space,
resulting in the characters running into each other (either way,
the system is unusable for scientific word processing).

Just a comment, really.

Alun

Alun J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland
Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:58:37 -0500
From: jmueller@usc.pppl.gov (Jim Mueller)
Subject: Unknown type/creator: MSCF/MSSU

 This file showed up on my crowded Cobra 210i hard disk recently, but I
can't say for sure when:

Filename: Microsoft Excel
Type:     MSCF
Creator:  MSSU
Size:     700k

The filename has an elipsis (OPTION- semicolon)as the last character, in
case it doesn't show up as such once I Email this.

 I recognise neither the filetype nor the creator.

 Any suggestions?

Jim Mueller JMUELLER@USC.PPPL.GOV (sorry about including the sig last time)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:45:14 BST
From: Bernard Khoo <BCEK1@phx.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Up-to-date DoveFax+ software?

As those of you with a DoveFax+ might know, the software is not exactly one
of the best designed in the world 8-). (I have version 1.something).

I understand that there is a v2.0.3. As Dove are in Chapter 11, and as I am
not in the US (with a US-bought modem), can I ask?

 -- how good are Dove about sending out upgrades nowadays? (haven't got one
 yet) -- if they aren't, could somebody send me the images of the v2.0.3
 disks?
 -- is it really worth upgrading?

I suppose it might be worth upgrading, if only to get rid of the effect that
the FaxPrint chooser device has on the Chooser...

Bernard Khoo.
University of Cambridge, UK.
BCEK1@uk.ac.cam.phx (UK order) or @phx.cam.ac.uk (World order)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:24:35 -0700
From: Stan Smith <ssmith@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject: Where can I get MacQua.sit

Hello all,

I am looking for this file and if anyone has it or knows where to get it
please
email me.  The file is MacQua.sit.  It is a text file that contains all the
information to build an aquarium out of a macintosh compact case.

Thanks in advance,


ssmith@claven.idbsu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:43:19 -0800
From: gregl@freia.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
Subject: Where is AppSizer?

I recall seeing Adam Engst recommend a utility called AppSizer in TidBits,
and more recently in the latest MacUser.  I've been unable to find it
though, in the info-mac archives.  Has it been removed?  Help anyone?
Thanks.

			      -Greg Lyzenga        gregl@freia.jpl.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:40:36 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: Word Service Apple Event Suite

We just had a review meeting for the Word Services Apple Event Suite
documentation.  It needs more work before we feel comfortable handing it
out to the public.  The spec is finished though.  It has been posted on
Applelink for some time now, along with working sample code.  As soon as
the spec is finished we plan on making it available on the Dev CD and on
ftp.apple.com.  Until then I think the best course of action is to contact
the author, Michael Crawford of Working Software (D1620@Applelink.Apple.Com).

For those wondering, the Word Service Suite is a system for doing batch and
interactive services on text.  The spec is not specific about what kind of
service is provided, but the initial demo is spell checking.  Other
possibilities are grammar checking, language translation, encryption or
any other service which can take a block of text and change it.  The entire
Word Services model uses Apple Events and the object model to allow a very
simple implementation for "word processors" consisting of a single event and
some simple AppleScript compatibility (i.e. support of several Core Apple
Events as specified in the Apple Event Registry: Standard Suites).  Once this
simple suite is implemented, fully supporting scripting is only a small step
away. In addition, support services this way allows you to make your app
support an unlimited number of services for free since you don't need to
know anything about the service or pay any fees to licence it.

I believe this is a very nice example of the power of Apple Events.  My hope
is that we will have only 1 dictionary per machine, or even per network,
since Apple Events are network transparent.

I'll rant more as I get time.  ;)

Jon Pugh
kAERegistrar

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:54:32 -0500
From: srb@aretha.jax.org

I am looking for some 'how to' literature on file/folder sharing under
system 7.  I have read something somewhere about using aliases to be able
to share the same files with different people. Each person could then be
granted a different set of privileges for viewing or editing the same file.

I also need to be able to access my entire hard disk from a remote site
without
giving people sharing folders on my disk the same privilege.

So how do I do these things?

Susan Dewey
srb@aretha.jax.org

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:42:43 BST
From: Jonathan Kolodny
<jonathan.kolodny@mrc-applied-psychology.cambridge.ac.uk>

Dear netters,

Is there a simple way (e.g. an init) of modifying the date portion of the
general control panel, so that it uses the European rather than the
American ordering on an American copy of System 7?  In other words, we would
like it to be dd/mm/yy rather than mm/dd/yy.  Although Microsoft Word allows
one to re-configure the date for the European format, it seems that some
applications, like FileMaker Pro, insist on accessing the System date
directly.
Of course, an obvious solution would be to get the UK version of System 7, but
having already received and installed the American version on the machines
here, we would ideally like to avoid the lengthy process of re-installation.

Please reply directly to vincent.everett@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk, and if there is
interest I will summarise for the net.

Cheers!

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