From: tkacz@CS.UWindsor.Ca (Peter Theodosius Tkacz)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: A SOLUTION to UNWANTED TURKISH POSTINGS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:54:28 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.soviet
Organization: School of Computer Science, Univ. of Windsor, Ontario, Canada


To anyone who is interested.

     Lately I have not been following up on any news groups, but 
ocassionally drop in and see if anything interesting is happening, when 
I do get a chance to.  I notice that a few people are still posting
articles on Turkish topics.  This would not be bad, if this was the 
news group that dealt with these issues.  But since it is not, I as 
well as a number of other people who tune in on this group do get annoyed,
because when one follows up on a group, they do this because they have
an interest on the discussions that are taking place.  It is not that they
are ignorant, etc. but are not currently interested in the topic.  It is
just like any other topic, or hobby.  Besides, if I was interested in the 
topic (ie: as in the case of discussions of a particular news group), I would
the follow up on that news group.
     Besides, if a person decides to post a posting that is 10 K long, and
posts that posting to five different groups, then that postings eats up 
50 K of valuable disk space on every server.  And imagine, how much space 
in all is wasted on all those servers that receive USENET mail.
     A number of solutions have been suggested to date:

		i) Formation of a moderated group.
               ii) Formation of other news groups.
   
Well many people are not thrilled with with (i), because of the possibility
that the moderator of the news group, will (lets say) control the flow of 
information.  With respect to the second idea (ii), a number of people
are for this, as well as those who are not (I'm still for it).
 
     What might be just as good, would be the following:

		All people who are interested in a particular group
	such as this one would subscribe to a server located some where
 	on INTERNET.  All postings would then be sent to this server.  If the 
	posters name corresponds to a name on the list of subcribers,
	then that article would be redistributed, as a regular posting.
        Any one would or could be allowed to post as normal.  
		If a poster (ie: as in the case of the Turkish posters.) 
	continues to annoy all readers, and posters, then a vote would 
	called to have that person banned from the news group.  This could
	only be done if a high % are in favour of this.  If so, then the
	redistribution program would add to its list of (unwanted) people,
	and not allow any postings from that person to be posted.
	And by doing this, much bandwith would not be wasted, and every one
 	might just live a bit more happily and ever after.

It's and idea that is not bad, and does not eliminate wasted bandwith.
What could also be done, is not have a subscribber list, but only an
unwanted list.  This way if the majority of the people, were annoyed 
with a particular user, and a reasons why that peson should be removed from
that or this news group are valid, then a vote would be called to order,
and if the decission was passed, then the unwanted list would be updated,
which would prevent that user from posting to that news group.  Also this
would only apply to those that do not post articles which have no relevancy 
to this or any other news group.

I'm for this.

Peter Tkacz
tkacz@server.uwindsor.ca
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet