From: georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Subject: Re: Differnces in early script...(long?)
Summary: ARGH!
Keywords: I want to see this entire film!!
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:26:44 GMT

>
>
>
>++++++
>Well, that is all I can do right now.  I do have to pay this long distance
>bill for dialing up, and I do have to work tomorrow.  Boy, summer jobs are
>hell...
>
>I will continue tomorrow, and hopefully this has some brains churning with the
>impications of what was said.  I hope you could decipher this all, my typing
>that is, and I will paginate this better nexttime....
>
>stay tuned...
>

 This stuff is exellent and definately does shed new light on what is going
 on in the movie.. man I want to see the entire version.. the thing is, if
 there is a sequel, and all these scenes that were cut are in the 3:40
 version being released to laserdisc and video, it will restrict even
 further the people who will understand the sequel - being the people who
 will only view the 3:40 version.. obviously if you go by the movie version
 alone, you will not understand a lot of what happens if they do a sequel.
  
  Ok, the scenes you just described explaine "Fire, walk with me" - the
  scene in the movie where they all go into another room from the red room
  and where Piere snaps his fingers and a light/fire appears on the wall,
  thus the light we see in the TV series when Bob shows - and now also
  Jeffries appearing back in South America with a scorched wall behind him
  means that that red room is a portal through time - it can bring you to
  the waiting room ("find the middle place" - middle world where all can
  exist) and it can also send you through time -back/forward ("future past")
   
   Ok, something else.. the ring.. it has the same owl on it as in Owl Cave
   which supposedly opened the door to the black lodge thus meaning the
   ring also opens the door to the lodge, or the waiting room. Remember,
   the LMFAP had the ring above the convenience store when they all supposedly
   go through the fire into the waiting room.

   Theresa Banks also had the ring, thus maybe could enter the lodge where
   Bob wouldn't be able to posses her, Laura had the ring she entered the
   lodge thus Bob couldn't posses her, the OAM had the ring, we see him in
   the lodge ONLY in the movie , Annie, in the cut scene had the ring, she
   was in the lodge..the nurse takes it.

    If these scenes stay in the uncut version, how much do you want to make
    a bet that we will see Cooper (if he returns to do the sequel) appearing
    like Jeffries to warn Truman about what is going on and about the ring.
    Truman will hunt down the nurse, find the ring, and with the help of others
    like Major Briggs, The Log Lady, the Bookhouse Boys, will enter the fire
    in the convenience store to confront the evil (Bob et al) once and for all,
    freeing Cooper and *possibly* seeing/freeing Laura and Theresa Banks,
    Agent Desmon and maybe even Jeffries (unless he was still in South
    America).
     
     Seattle was mentioned and Judy (possibly another victim? Jeffries 
     girlfriend?).. Jeffries found something there.. the ring? Where else
     have we heard about Seattle? Pete to Truman: "This isn't uncommon for
     Josie, she takes off every few months to Seattle, to go shopping - she
     comes back with bags full of new clothes, I personally think she is
     seeing someone there" - not word for word quote but that is the basic
     jist.. ok, hypothetical situation here.. maybe Josie IS "Judy" and is
     seeing Jeffries there but changed her name, maybe she was using
     Jeffries for some reason like she was sort of "using" Truman. Jeffries
     was probably buying her a lot of stuff. I will re-read that post to
     make sure it was Judy in Seattle and not Stanley..:-) This sounds too
     good to be true. :-) I will continue anyways.. if Josie knew of/had
     possesion of the ring then she is linked with the lodge people and thus
     why Bob imprisoned her in the wood handle so she could be used at at 
     later date (once they found out Josie shot Cooper Bob realized she
     couldn't be used as a "spie" anymore so he took her away until later).
     If this is the case, then the Log Lady's husband must have also had
     connections with the lodge people (if that was indeed him in the red
     room and he is listed in the credits as a woodsman) and he was being used
     as a spie and the same thing happened.. he got found out/rendered
     useless, imprisoned in a tree for later use. The tree happend to get
     cut down and a piece of it happened to be given to the Log Lady who 
     uses it to communicate with her husband and her husband has turned
     good like Mike and is trying to stop Bob.
      
      Am I unto something or what? :-)
       
       -=*George*=-