HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (Kent Stewart)
Subject: Check those mailboxes!
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 23:28:43 GMT



...because Oakland series I *and* II already arriving.

My series I's were in the mid-3000s, series II's low 1000's.

WELCOME BACK GRATEFUL DEAD!!!

(can you tell we've missed you? 8^)

--bongo
From: MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Flecktones in Amish County :-O :-) :-O
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:46:34 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

Last night Bela Fleck & The Flecktones played Miller Chapel at Lebanon
Valley College, up near Hershey PA.  A coule friends and I drove up last
night, not really knowing what to expect, as this place was kind of out
there, in Yeha Valley :-) IMHO :-).  Anyway, we get to the show, and I
thought for sure we were at the wrong place.  Anyway, we get to this large
Church.  This was the venue.  It was a pretty large place, and I've seen
the Flecktones a couple times at the local cabarets in the neighborhood.
But we were sitting in pews :-O  Really a bummer for my butt, as they were
solid wood seats, and they played for a while :-O.  The community seems to
do this community group of shows or something, so that you join and get
tickets for all the shows when you join.  Then they publicly sell off a
bunch of other tickets.  So the crowd there, seemed to me, to be a bunch
of the town socialites coming out for a Saturday Evening bit of music.  An
older crowd, with the average age being somewhere near 35-40.  Beings I saw
the gig as a social outing, for the town folks, I expected a shitload of
gabbing throughout the show.  I was in the back of the church, so that
added to my paranoia on the subject.  Well, the audience was incredibly
well behaved.  Probably the only quieter audience I could think of was when
I went to see a Philly Orchestra show.  Very well behaved, and it was nice
to not have the drunk hollaring near you at the show ;-O.  One thing I thought
that was real funny was when a couple of the younger deadhead looking folks
started dancing in an open part of the church, all the folks in front of me
pointed their fingers at the dancers and shunned them :-) ;-) ;-).  Oh what
are they doing, how weird.  Do you think they are on drugs?  The people in
front of me seemed obsessive about the fact that these people were dancing :-).
Good show by Bela & the Flecktones.  If you get a chance to see these guys
do it!

Joe Doheny
From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadheads...(NO DEAD CONTENT) yawn, more Tipper
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:40:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1ei51cINNpgu@morrow.stanford.edu>, karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
> In article <1992Nov20.034143.0429856@locus.com> yazz@locus.com
> (Bob Yazz) writes:
>>faunt@cisco.com writes:
> 
> Tipper was wrong.  Zappa was right.  Censorship sucks, whatever
> you call it.
> --
> 
>     Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
>     (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu


 Isnt this thread dead yet? It has already been stated, quite
correctly by others, that Tipper was not about censorship. Some folks have
really worked up an entirely new defintion of the word. I don't particularly
like the idea of playing music for little kids that says "FU*K OFF" either, to
be perfectly honest. Labels, that's what she wanted. That's what the testimony
she gave asked for as I recall, and little else (of course, you could look it
up and prove my 'ol memory wrong........ maybe)

 Ooooh labels. Next thing you know, they'll be labels warning pregnant women 
that consumption of alcohol may lead to heath risks to their baby. Or that 
smoking may cause lung cancer. Or that food contains certain ingredients.   
How about some talk about the censorship of cigs, or beer, or Oreo cookies?
Now that, my friends, would be an interesting thread. (Yet not appropriate
necessarily for a rm.gdead)
  

Ho hum. Back to my boredom.


fight censorship WHEN IT OCCURS
                 ==== == ======
 
!eric!
From: dbader@eng.umd.edu (David Bader)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GD Checking Account?
Summary: The Check is in the mail..
Keywords: Money, Money, Money
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:26:35 GMT
Organization: Professional Head, University of Maryland, College Park

Hey Now!

  I just hit that stub in my unused check box telling me to reorder. I
am *SICK* of that standard blue looking check.  Does anyone know of
Dead style checks anywhere?  I already saw this month's issue of Relix (19,5)
with an ad on page 17 and wasn't too impressed.  

Peace and Wealth,
 david

p.s. if you want to send *me* checks, for whatever amount, I wouldn't
mind that, either.  Just leave it blank, and sign the bottom line, and
I'll take care of the rest... Here's my address: =)

David A. Bader 
48 Avonshire Court   
Silver Spring, MD 20904

Internet: dbader@eng.umd.edu
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Tape organizer/label maker for the PC
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:19:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In addition to other little goodies, along with the DeadBase VI package
came an advertisment for "Let's Trade" a PC-based software package for
organizin' your tapes and printin' labels, additional facilities for
storin' addresses/lists of fellow traders and other stuff, it was 
priced at $40, with setlist/etc info from 72-91, available from Terrapin
Tapes.  Not affiliated with either group, but thought I'd pass the info
along.

P.S. Welcome Tom-Tom! (new net.lurker, he knows who he is:-)
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: no time to hate
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:01:17 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


                        /~~~~\/~~~~\
                       |            |
                        \          /
                          \      /
                            \  /
                             \/


please, please, please, let's not restir the wheel controversy.

i understand some feelings are still running high, but that's what
email's for.  i was also guilty in the beginning of posting about
the issue, when i actually knew very little except for rumours, and
i still seriously regret it ... (has it only been 10 days?)

to both sides: there really ARE no sides, there really IS no us and
them.  it's all us, preferably working together.

joe says that he regrets what he did, and was humble enough to come
forward and make a public apology and statement.  that must have
been a difficult gesture for him.  it surely doesn't change what
happened, but then, that can't be done.

we can all think of things that we wish we could take back, and also
know that can't happen.

let's reach out to each other with love in our hearts ...

and if there's still anger and resentment to be expressed about
this, i think that email's a more appropriate forum.

one way or another, this darkness got to give ...

                  \@/\@/\@/\@/\@/\@

say, which of you other local bay area net.heads will i run into at
my local bass outlet on 11/22???  shall i bring a thermos of kahlua
and coffee ??

spreading whirled pppppps
lara
-<-)@
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Oakland Series II tickets arrive
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:49:47 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov17.173556.12251@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com> writes:
>
>received Series I tickets (#18,20,20) on Saturday.
>
>received Series II tickets (#100,100) on Monday.

 ... well, if you don't make it back from gay paree in time, please
pass them on :)
>
>Steve
>
-<-)@
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Subject: Re: goodbye, too
Organization: /home/max/.organization
	<1992Nov19.182916.1486@miki.pictel.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:00:28 GMT


In a recent article, somebody writes:

   How would you know XXXX unlesss you were [a wheelie] yourself....

   we know you are.....and now you've come out of the closet to
   attempt to throw more stones.....what a beautiful day here 
   isn't it...enjoy

(I know XXXX's name was posted already, but that doesn't mean I have to
rebroadcast it...)

What difference does it make _who_ is a wheelie?  

I think there were legitimate questions about the wheel itself, and
at least for me, most of them have been resolved, through better
understanding on both sides of the issue.  The problems that remain
are between former friends, and I hope they can be resolved as soon 
and as easily as possible.  What any individual person does is
their business, and the only one who can judge them is themselves.

If a wheelie chooses to let it be known that they are a wheelie, I
say let's welcome them to continue to enjoy _our_ party, even if they've
got a party of their own going.  If someone continues to remain in 
anonymity, or to withold that they are members, that is their choice.
Originally, I was disappointed in those that chose to keep
their membership a secret, but now I see clearly why they did.  

Let's try not to continue to prove them right about this and others
of their actions, and instead keep the channels open and our arms
outstretched as always.

Pointing out who is and who isn't a wheelie will get us further toward
nowhere.

(Even if the above mentioned member continues to justify *our* worst
fears about the attitude on the wheel, as was so eloquently put by
Matt Brown...)
From: everson@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Everson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dillard's/Compton paranoia
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:00:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov20.150001.17640
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dillard's/Compton paranoia
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov19.210228.7742@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu writes:
>Hi Everyone, 
>Well, I might as well be among the first to give in:
>
>Has anyone who ordered tickets for Compton Terrace from
>Dillard's received them yet? 
>
>I'm leaving town on Sunday and I'm trying to figure out
>how to set things up...

I just got mine today via certified mail. I was surprised because nothing 
else was included in the envelope except a copy of the bill - no camping/
hotel info or maps. Did anyone get anything like that?

Phil
From: mcole@sub-40 (Mary Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Tempe drinking establishments
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:55:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1e8sqlINNflo@ub.d.umn.edu> kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth  
malmberg) writes:
> Coming along way for the Compton Terrace shows...are there any  
microbreweries
> in Tempe.  How about pool halls, or friendly neighborhood pubs?

There's a brewpub called Bandersnatch near Sun Devil Stadium.
From: patrick.eckman%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Patrick Eckman) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Marin Bars and Clubs
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:04:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: patrick.eckman%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Patrick Eckman) 

TO: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net

 DW. Hi Pat. Nice to rap with you in this conference as well. Sweetwater is a
 DW. nice club in Marin. Jerry played there a few times. So bro, coming out
 DW. for Oakland shows?

Yo' Dario!
I have a tax credit deal that will consume all of my non-family time in
December, so no, I won't make it.  I do expect a full and incredibly detailed
review together with both nice soundboards and audience tapes so I can
to Wollman rink and ice skate and imagine I was there....
---
 . JABBER v1.2 .
                                                                                                             
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: DAISY GLAZE <APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Once more
Reply-To: APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:04:12 GMT

One more thing--the big post by Gladstone was pretty insulting to me on 
several levels--without going into detail, it implied that it is a qualitative
and empirical truth that 'rap sucks' and 'enlightened' black kids will realize
this.  This is pretty insulting to me as a half-Japanese Deadhead who enjoys
Public Enemy, Cypress Hill, and other rap groups.  Rap does not 'suck' any 
more than jazz 'sucks' or the Dead 'suck'.  If you don't like it, fine.  But
when you get up and say a whole genre of music 'sucks', my response whatever
the genre, be it country, rock, or orchestral, will always be the same:
F#@K you.
It also said at the end "End of discussion".  Sorry, but it's not that easy to
get the last word.  I don't think this person means to be insulting in the Joe
Hack manner, but this is somehow worse to me.
---Aaron
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Doug Griffiths <dougg@fnma.com>
Subject: Restoration of Buffalo on Indian Reservation Benefits
Reply-To: dougg@fnma.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:57:37 GMT


Whew!  The subject line says it all:

"Restoration of Buffalo on Indian Reservation Benefit Concerts"

Bob Weir & Rod Wasserman, w/ many special guests, including Jorma.

The Flood Zone , Richmond, VA Saturday, Nov. 21.

Trax, Charlottesville, VA. Sunday, November 22.

These are confirmed (I have tickets) and supposedly a 1 - 2 affair, with
no other shows scheduled, as far as I can tell.  But, I had to go through
my private mailing lists (gasp!!!) of school buddies/dead heads to get info
about these shows, and the info out there is sketchy. Anyone out there know
of any additional Bob & Rob shows?  (I've heard rumored a Hampton area
show).  

But, these should be pretty interesting, what with these being bars (!) 
instead of major venues.  There is also supposed to be a benefit dinner
with the  musicians before each show, no reservations required, low cost 
($ 5 ?), all donated food, etc... 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: BATHROOMS
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:20:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.040146.16102@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:

>
>And, yes, there ARE frequently lines for the men's rooms -- but they don't
>usually stretch way outside like in the women's rooms.  I'm surprised more
>women don't invade the men's rooms.

'Cuz they have a hard time using those things hangin' on the wall:-)
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>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: begonias@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Ritzer)
Subject: Colorado boycott question ?????
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:41:44 GMT


In reference to a previous poster who said a boycott was a bad idea
	and that, in fact, we know where the Dead stand on these issues,
	I would wonder how we know where they stand on issues like this
	one?  Do they tell us?  Do we assume?  And, if we do assume,
	on what do we base our assumption?

I seem to remember in the not too distant past, 'heads were getting
	beaten and arrested outside of shows.  Well, along came Jerry to
	say that this wasn't right and therefore he wouldn't play those
	places (specifically Nassau) again.  To my surpirse, Nassau was
	scheduled either on the next Dead or JGB tour (can't remember
	which).  Do they care about us?  Should we assume that they care
	about what some of us care about?  Does it matter?

I remember being at a Foxboro show in 1989, with thousands of people
	jumping over the walls to get to the field.  I was on the field, and
	I WAS SCARED !!!  At that piont i wondered why they just didn't
	amble up to the micropphone and say something like: STOP THAT AND
	ENJOY THE SHOW WHERE YOU ARE - WHERE WE GAVE YOU TIX!  That's
	always puzzled me.  I know they like to say that they don't want to
	tell anyone how to live their ives/lives, but much like the Stones
	at Al;ta,mon/Altamont, the boyz do have some responsibility for
	the places they place/play.

To assume that the Dead are against the ban, or whatever it is, in
	Colorado is almost as bad as the cop stopping me in my little
	Deadmobile with all of uits stickers, just 'cause he thinks that
	we're all potheads.  My question is, finally, are thje Dead just
	a band, or do we expect them to be something more.  If we expect
	more of them, then they should boycott Colorado, much like the
	NFL pulled the Super Bowl out of Arizona over the King holiday.

Obviously, my $.02, in the form of something to think about.

Thanks for listening, you may now retunrn to flaming each other.


-- 
Popular culture is the art of making do with what the system provides!
                 Jeremy Ritzer          begonias@wam.umd.edu
                
               
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: drlecter@admiral.uucp (Ackbar Rajapurus)
Subject: Tipper Gore -- Certifiable 'head?!
Reply-To: drlecter@admiral.uucp (Ackbar Rajapurus)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:36:01 GMT


   My jaw dropped when i read that Time blurb. I think ive counted 18 or 
19 repostings.. at least heads on the net are well read..!

 But what is the criteria for being a certifiable deadhead? Do you have 
to be able to swim in piles of ticket stubs? Actually get the max point 
bahama vacation..?

peace -- and try to ignore the flamer flames (bad joke..)

--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Yaah, And Monkeys might fly out of my butt!
X-Xxdate: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12: 15:21 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:02:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.044739.23878@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Greg Morgan,
COPIGEM@mvs.oac.ucla.edu writes:
>I've just heard a rumor that the dead might play the inaugural ball.

"Turn on channel 6,  Slick Willy come on the news,
Says I get no satisfaction while the Bushes sing the blues
Hillary don't get crazy, Lord she know just what to do 
Get out the old Victrola, puttin on your rockin shoes"

I caaaaaan seeeeeee itttttttttt noooooooow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: (Copy) Grateful Dead song poll
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:56:07 GMT

I posted this last week and got a few responses.  So here it
goes again...


If you get confused listen to the music play...
Let's try to focus on the music a little more on this newsgroup.
A little poll to ease the tension.  Results to be posted just prior
to December shows...

--------------------------------------------------------------
Top three songs you'd like to see Garcia revive:
1.
2.
3.

Top three songs you'd like to see Weir revive:
1.
2.
3.

Top three "other" revivals (instrumentals, Phil tunes :), etc...)
1.
2.
3.

Top three songs you would like to see the Dead cover (include lead
vocalist and any other insightful info.)
1.
2.
3.

Denver 12/2 opener:
(one song or combo, ie. Bertha>Greatest, Help>Slip>Franklins)
Denver 12/2 first set closer:
Denver 12/2 second set opener:
Denver 12/2 second set closer:
Denver 12/2 encore:
Denver 12/2 breakouts:
(any number)

Please send these directly to me via e-mail.  Only one entry per
person please.  Have fun!

Later,
Vic
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer)
Subject: Re: Grateful Dead song poll
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:45:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.204353.7908@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>
>>>>Top three "other" revivals (instrumentals, Phil tunes :), etc...) 
>>
>>This one's easy:
>>
>>1. Passenger 

I'll defend to the death their right to play it, but I hope they're
courteous enough to let us know in advance so I can bring some cotton
balls to the show.

-David

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: Jerry sighting (Cherry, to be exact.)
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:26:00 GMT


AT the middle of Old folks' land, I got a taste of jerry. (almost)
I was at this restaurant, down in McLean, kVA, avg age: 75, when I
spotted my dessert:  Cherries Garcia.
D-lecious.

MP
Louray@seas.gwu.edu
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Songs during breaks
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:16:29 GMT
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.

In article <MAX.92Nov15164642@frabjous.u.washington.edu> max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.040251.19612@u.washington.edu> tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer) writes:
>   In article <1992Nov14.144957.13354@athena.mit.edu> hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel) writes:
>   >Does anybody want to share any other stories about favorite (or
>   >worst) pre-, during, or post-show music at Dead concerts (anybody
>   >else remember the concert that they were playing Wizard of Oz tunes
>   >for our post-show listening pleasure!?!)?
>   Reading this thread, I was just thinking about this show.  Wasn't it after
>   the second night at the Palace of Auburn Hills?  
>   And they didn't play just any Wizard of Oz tune - they played a bit of the
>   pre-tune dialogue and then that wonderful song, "If I Only Had a Brain"!!
>Hmmm, I think I remember this also, though.  Could it have been Mardi
>Gras '92?  Maybe they did it several times on the spring tour?

No, It was   as referenced above,  the  second night  in Detroit  this
spring.  I remember it well, the last night on  the  tour.  It came on
*right* as the lights came up.  I left my tape deck running and got it
all on tape, complete with the cheers of the audience!  Quite amusing.

								reb