HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: donnell@sponge.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: The Obsessed, Doom metal etc
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:20:15 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Sep9.135403.15597@kth.se> d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>Does anyone know what kind of music The Obsessed plays? Are they still
>around? They often show up at the thanks-lists on various Doom Metal
>albums so I'm starting to believe that they might be interesting. It
>seems that they have at least two albums out, but I have never seen
>any of them.
>
>The same goes for Pentagram. I know nothing about this band except
>that their name comes up in promising environments.
>
>Have anyone seen Penance's or Thy Grief Eternal's debut albums? I don't
>know when these albums are/were supposed to be released except "soon".
>Any sign of Count Raven's new album? It was supposed to be released
>in August...
>
>And don't forget, if you find anything new in the Doom section or at
>least something that doesn't appear on the Doom Metal List but should
>be there: Tell me about it!
>
> __-^-__ I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_ V 1.5.1 _I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I   IOI
>[___X___]                    |"There's no tomorrow,              |=|
>   |=|   Thomas Wolmer       | just sadness and sorrow           |=|
>   |=|   d90-two@nada.kth.se | Hold on to the Ancient Dreams"  __|_|__
>   |=|   Angantyr on IRC     |  - Candlemass "Ancient Dreams" [__ X __]
>   IOI   I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I_I   `-'

I was preparing an addendum to the Doom metal list, that included these guys.
I will continue to work on that, but here is sonme info:

The Obsessed: This was the eArly band of Scott "Wino" Weinrich, now vocalist/
guitarist with St. Vitus. They got a lot of press in the punk fanzines, in
the very early days of crossover. They released 1 7" ep, very hard to find.
One song from a later demo "Concrete Cancer" shows up on Metal Massacre VI
 <i think>. I wrote to these guys years ago, and got a tape of the EP, and
their new demo. Exactly the sort of punk/metal fusion that didn't catch
on, but when they go for the doom feel, they can be awesome!
"Sodden Jackal", off the EP, is a lost classic!!

Pentagram has two albums out, but the only one I have any info on is the
2nd, "Day Of Reckoning", I believe. Low rent Sabbath, not great, but pretty 
good. "When The Screams Come" just cries out for a genuine Ozzy vocal.
I will try to get the label, but my copy of the album is 50 miles away.
Hope this helps!

					--Judex--
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:10039 rec.music.industrial:10414
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Dallas Lollapalooza - Ministry lineup, Sharkbait, Skrew
Keywords: concussion, pearlsnake, self-immolation
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:54:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <spray.716078619@convex.convex.com> spray@convex.com (Rob Spray) writes:
>Can anyone help me out on the Ministry line-up for the Dallas show?
>
>Person         Current band       Instrument      Songs
>-------------  -----------------  --------------  ------
>...
>Miki ?         Lush               guitar          ?
>

I heard that Miki tried to stage-dive (!?) and bashed her head pretty good,
requiring a trip to the hospital.  But here she's listed as appearing with
Ministry?  What's the story, was there blood running down her head while
she played or what (maybe there's hope for Lush yet)?  The local paper had 
a hospital person saying she was "expected to be released late Sunday."  In
general, the (conservative) paper was really down on L2, they said that
there were a lot of rowdy, bleeding, and/or passed-out people, and that 
reserved-seating chairs were unbolted (!) from the floor during Pearlsnake.
Great photo of a guy dancing in the middle of a fire, too.

I stayed far away from Barfplex, so I can't help out with identification...

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:9938 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:2813
From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Solitude Aeturnus / Review
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:20:18 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

SOLITUDE AETURNUS - Beyond the Crimson Horizon  (1992 Roadracer)  

 Seeds of the Desolate  (6:30)
 Black Castle           (4:08)
 The Final Sin          (5:41)
 It Came Upon One Night (6:58)
 The Hourglass          (5:16)
 Beneath the Fading Sun (4:26)
 Plague of Procreation  (6:28)
 [Beyond... (instr.)    (4:00)]


For those of you who have the first release (Into the Depths of Sorrow) and
liked it:  BUY THIS!  It doesn't go off on a tangent (unlike our speed-metal
heroes), but takes the "Soliturnus" (shorter to spell) sound and just does it
better!  Overall, I thinks this album is heavier, faster and more intense than
Sorrow.

For those who have never heard of them:  BUY THIS!  Well, first let me TRY to
explain their sound.  First of all, they hang with the Doom Metal crowd
(evident in their thank you list;  Cathederal, St. Vitus, etc.), but I wouldn't
pen them in as doom metal.  If you like DEEP vibrating bass, double bass drums
kicking, loud and heavy riffs, screaming guitar solos, and like vocalists that
tend toward the mid-to-high notes ... BUY THIS!


Summary:  My favorite CD of the year, so far!
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Megadeath Concert Dates
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:18:57 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <Bu87pD.1w6@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> adrian@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Adrian Jones) writes:
>I wrote:
>> They're going to Europe for the Monsters of Rock, and start they're US tour
>> on Halloween somewhere on the east coast and then they'll be working they're
>> way westward.  Suicidal Tendencies will be opening.
>> 
>
>MTV said (about two monthes ago) that Body Count would be opening for Megadeath.
>Not that it makes any difference.

Sorry, I guess I should have given the source.  Dave Mustaine called one of the
local radio stations to give a little promo for the album, and he's the one
who said the above.
						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji)
Subject: Re: Spell it Right
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:43:37 GMT

claypool@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok H. Lee) writes:
: I realized that this bboard is innundated with posers when I read all
: the misspellings of "Megadeth".  Even a mental zero like Maple can
: spell it correctly.  All those who spelled it, "Megadeath," go crawl
: up Lars Ulrich's ass and DIE!
: 
: Les

Oh God, so Hyok finally returns with a name account.  How dare you use
Claypool as your account name.  Why didn't you use ccdeville instead?
That would sound more like your taste in music.  Let me assure everyone
out here in metal land that Hyok does not listen to Primus.  He's into
shit bands like King's X and David Lee Roth.  Hyok, stay the fuck off this
newsgroup!

C++ ya in hell,

Maple

--

 /----------------------------------------------------------------------------\
 | Maple Metal Moriji            |  Through boiling clouds of thunder         |
 | The Poserkiller               |  Blasting bolts of steel                   |
 | maple@seas.gwu.edu            |  Posers going under deadly wheels          |
 | George Washington University  |  He is the Poserkiller                     |
 \----------------------------------------------------------------------------/

Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:10031 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:2870
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Please READ this! Future of this group
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Sep11.112223.6678@iscsvax.uni.edu> turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu 
writes:
>I've got an idea.  The .metal and .metal.heavy newsgroups are pretty informal. 
>We really don't DO anything productive.  

Actually, I occasionally see a post about new groups, albums, etc.

>It'd be kind of nice if, first, we
>made out a list with each others names, id's, and info (like three favorite
>groups, five favorite albums, you know shit like that).  We could post it once
>and a while when we have new people added.  That way, we would have user names
>all listed out with info on other people who listen to the same stuff as us.

Yeah, and we can have a secret e-handshake, so we can know who not to talk to
about music.  Real idea - change your .plan to reflect what you want others
to know about you, and they can use 'finger' to find out.

>
>Second, I was thinking mabey we could do something like make a big list of all
>the albums we listen to and give 'em a rank (5 stars to 0 stars).  Each person
>in the METAL USERS LIST (see above; NOT the official list name!) would rank the
>albums we pick and the AVERAGE would be taken.  We could post this periodically
>and we could see if mabey there are albums we should get that we don't have,
>cause everyone else thinks its great!
>
And I can also know what group I'm not supposed to talk about since they only
got a 1.8?

>I don't know.  What do you all think?  We'd also need people to be in charge. 
>Mabey elect them or something.

I think it bites.  You want a moderated group, fine - start one.  Either that
or start your own mailing list and you can discuss anything with whoever you
deem should be on.   Now that school has started again, the metal groups are
overflowing with posts.  I've seen several that should be directed to
r-n-r.hard, but I know how to use a kill file and I ignore them.  Why don't
you try the same?
						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Top 5 metal groups
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:56:44 GMT

To those of you still wondering who Frank Marino and Mahoghany Rush are/were,
let me throw in my .02.

Frank Marino was a heroin Addict in Canada who learned to play guitar, while
kicking his habit. Heavily influenced by Jimi Hendrix, rumors circulated at
one time that he had been possessed by Jimi's spirit <Yeah Right!!!>.
He moved away from the whole Hendrix thing after a while, into more Jazz
stylings, but the music always came out as rock.
With his band Mahoghany Rush, he released a bunch of albums through the '70's
and early 80's. Most notable among these is 1976's "World Anthem" and the
follow-up "Mahoghany Rush Live" <both on CD, I believe>. World Anthem
showed them getting away from the Hendrix influence, but the Live album
features a cover of "Purple Haze". Marino, especially in the early days,
actually DID sound uncannily like Hendrix, both on Guitar and Singing.
Dogged by accusations of cloning, Marino went solo about 1982-3, and 
actually hit radio with the keyboard funk of "Strange Dreams". I have no idea
what he is doing now.
As for them being Metal....hell yes. They were there when the genre was forming,
and were a massive influence upon the players of the time. If the genre has
since passed them by, it does not negate their position.

					--Judex--
From: css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Steel Heart
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:09:36 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I think that's how you spell there name, anyhow Ive heard good things
about this group, and wondered if any of you lot have anything by them?
Cheers
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: WANTED: METALLICA SONG
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:35:10 GMT

>     Your correct! The band was Savage(Metallica seems to thrive on covering
>the early eighties bands. This brings me to the purpose of this posting.
> What else as Savage put out (I have LOOSE AND LETHAL and have never seen
>anything else)?

Yes, they have. There were a few EPs, but most of the songs on the EPs were
also on LOOSE'N'LETHAL. There was also an LP called HYPERACTIVE.

> Can anyone give a discography on Angel Which (denote any on C.D. please)
>I've seen their live album on reissue and will probably buy it today(I
>saw it at the University's Record Theatre.)

Sweet Danger (EP, 1980, EMI)
Metal For Muthas (compilation, 1980, EMI)
Metal Explosion (compilation, 1980, BBC)
Angel Witch (LP, 1980, Bronze)
Loser (EP, 1980, Bronze)
Screamin' N' Bleedin' (LP, 1985, Killerwatt)
Frontal Assault (LP, 1987, Killerwatt)
Frontal Assault (CD, 1988, JCI. Note that this version is actually a compiltion		of five songs from the Screamin' album and five songs from Frontal
	Assault)
Angel Witch Live (CD, 1990, Enigma) 
NWOBHM '79 Revisited (CD, 1990, Metal Blade)

Angel Witch was also on several other compilations but most of them are just
the song "Angel Witch."
Metal For Muthas featured "Baphomet."
Metal Explosion featured "Extermination Day"
NWOBHM '79, released by Lars Ulrich, also featured "Extermination Day"

>  Does anyone know the story around the Praying Mantis/Dianno album.
>I saw that when I was without my wallet-came back and it was gone!!!
>                                                 Mandrake

I was there a few months after Di'anno and co. recorded it (in Japan). It
was pretty big news in Burrn! magazine. I have no idea why it's nowhere 
anymore, either. Lucky I bought it when I did, because there was only one
copy and I haven't seen it since.
It's pretty good, although I wish Paul Di'anno did the Bernie Shaw songs like
"Nightmare" or "Turn The Tables." "Tell Me The Nightmares Wrong" is a killer
mushy ballad, up there with "Cheated." Dennis Stratton also sings lead vocals
on "Dangerous Games" and the third verse of "Children Of The Earth" I think.

philip

"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger)
Subject: Re: Suaron is a poser
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 00:15:48 GMT

maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
: 
: [ Well I think you've all read Maple's little story by now.  It was some
:   nursery rhyme sob story about how Maple met Suaron this summer and how
:   all his hero worshiping expectations came crashing down around him. ]
:

	Sniff... Sniff... Sob... Sob... It was sooo touching Maple.  We
	all feel sooo sorry for you.  I seriously doubt the validity of
	your story.  I think you've been watching too many soap operas
	in your spare time this summer.

:
: So now this is all I ask from you -- call me GOD!!!  After all, you know
: that I am.  I am the only REAL metal fan on this board and I'll show you
: what is REAL metal.  And if you don't worship me......you will all DIE!!!!
: 
: Forget about Suaron, and move on to better things.....ME!!!!!
: 
: C++ ya,
  ^^^
	Just a computer nerd posing for all to laugh at.  Probably doesn't 
	even know what a guitar looks like, let alone a base or drum set.
	Have you ever even been to a concert?

: 
: Maple
: The Poserkiller
: 
: --

				Phil
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 1992 20:41:31 -0400 
From: Kerwin Yap Chua <kc3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DIO/Black Sabbath
	<1992Sep5.231018.9981@cs.rose-hulman.edu>

Just for the sake of anybody who wants to know just what we're talking
about here.

Vivian Campbell  - A young, cocky irish guitarist who was recruited by
Ronnie James Dio when he and vinny Appice split from Black Sabbath. 
Currently playing for Def Leppard (whether you like it or not).  Still a
competent guitarist.  (Yes, I screwed up.  Viv was still playing on
Sacred Heart, so please excuse me.)

Craig Goldie - American guitarist who hasn't been heard from since he
left DIO, had a much more melodic, less angry style than Viv.  A must
see/hear is Goldie's version of the guitar solo in "Stand Up and Shout",
which can be heard on the DIO video tape _Intermission_.  His style is
much different.

Rowen Robertson - A British guitarist who joined DIO at 17 ---- =O
Fast and furious, but not many people seemed to like his playing.  My
personal favorite song on the album he played on (Lock up the Wolves) is
"Evil on Queen Street" which almost sounds like it has some old AC/DC
riffs in it.

And I stand by my opinion that _Dream Evil_ was depressing. Songs like 
"All the Fools Sailed Away" and "When a Woman Cries" are not exactly
upbeat screamers like "King of Rock N Roll" was.  Which is not to say
that I don't like the album.  I like _Anything_ that RJD has ever sung
on is brilliant, and far superior to the Death and Destruction thing at
one end and the Sex for the Hell of it thing on the other end of Metal;
RJD is always refreshing and universal.

By the way, anybody know how I can get my hands on the old ELF Albums? 
I just went out and bought a ton of old vinyl DIO singles that have "For
promotional use only not for sale" printed all over them, and I want the
COMPLETE set of DIO stuff.....

Kendrick Kerwin Chua

kc3u@andrew.cmu.edu
Cthulhu for President, 1992!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: ManOwaR
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:55:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.190108.10519@midway.uchicago.edu> adg2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <IedY9Jy00UhWA3vpI_@andrew.cmu.edu> Marcia Karen <mk3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>ManOwaR, along with Metallica and Judas Priest, form the mighty metal
>triumvirate. These three groups are -- by far -- my three favorite metal
>groups. They've been working on a new album since at least the summer of 1991.
>Guitarist Ross the Boss left the group to rejoin his old band, The Dictators.
>To replace him, they brought in Chicago-area axeman, David Lee Schankle.

So who's in the lineup now? I would assume Eric Adams and Joey DeMaio, but 
I thought Scott Columbus also left because someone in his family was sick.

I just got SIGN OF THE HAMMER. Great album, although "Guyana" sounds like a
Chinese pop music ballad (the vocal part, not the guitar riffs). Is Grand
Slamm rereleasing the old 10 Records Manowar set?

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: fskks1@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Body Count
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:04:06 GMT

In article <iBkRqB2w165w@cyberden.uucp>, moon!cyberden!flesh@well.sf.ca.us writes:
> Any one have any information as to the cities and places that they will 
> be playing? We need to know the dates badly. 
> 
> Email, if possible.
> 
> 
> ___________________________
When I was in California I saw ads for body count in fresno on sept 20th.

kevin
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Subject: RE:Top 5 metal groups
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:17:14 GMT



This ought to get a flame or 2:

1) Dokken
2) Queensryche
3) Metallica
4) Europe
5) Dio

	All 5 of these bands were formed in the early 80's and all we're  
part of the original Metal Wave in the mid-eighties (what I like to refer  
to classic metal).

						MJD
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: wwg2101@zeus.tamu.edu (GILPIN, W.W.)
Subject: Car groups (Was Reviews of recent releases)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:24:00 GMT

>How many bands are named similarly to cars? I can only think of one other,

How about the current topic of discussion? PANTERA is (was) a car as well as a 
band.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Wes Gilpin              | I'd kill myself for you...I'd kill you for myself |
| WWG2101@TAMZEUS(BITNet) |------------------------------------------         |
| WWG2101@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU   | Southwest Knights of Nee Paintball Team | PANTERA |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: DIO/Black Sabbath
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:52:12 GMT
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET

In article <1992Sep9.115901.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:

>I was at the show.  It was Goldie.  I was very unimpressed, but I was
>a big Viv fan even back then.  I haven't listened to _Intermission_ in
>a long time, but I recall being very disappointed by it, so it probably
>was that show.  Every other time I've seen Ronnie, both with Sabbath and
>with Dio, has been excellent.

See, Joe, it was Goldie :-))))) (not to be taken seriously:-)). I like
Viv more than Goldie - somehow Goldie didn't fit in Dio in my opinion.
>
>And if anyone cares, the song "Evil Eyes" predates the _Last in Line_
>album.  I first heard Dio perform it during the theater/headlining portion
>of the Holy Diver tour.  He did not do it during the earlier part of that
>tour when he was an opening act, nor at the end of the tour when he was
>headlining arenas. 

Dio as an opening act on HD tour? No, I don't think so... I think that
they headlined the HD tour all the time.

Evil eyes was made in the summer of 1983. Holy Diver album was
released in May '83 and Holy Diver single with Evil Eyes on B side in
August '83. There is one very rare promo single which pre-dates Holy
Diver album - it has Holy Diver on side A and on B there is Stand Up
And Shout.

On one live tape I have from Dio, Ronnie introduces a new song, Evil
Eyes, which was made for England-only release. I guess that they
changed their mind after that.

The song was played at least on these concerts:

San Bernardino, USA 08.10.83
Volkshaus           27.10.83
London, UK          05.11.83
Glasgow, UK         12.11.83
Stockholm, Sweden   17.11.83
Hamburg, Germany    25.11.83

> I managed to get ahold of a recording of it on the
>flip side of a British (?) 12" single of one of the songs from _Holy
>Diver_.  If memory serves, that version is *not* the same recording as
>the one on _Last in Line_, and I liked the 12" version better.  I remember

Yeah, it is slightly different. I like more the single version also
myself, it is much more energic etc. It has a kind of 'demo feeling'. 

BTW, Greg, do you have any rare Dio records? Any live tapes?

(of course, everyone is invited to answer! :-)

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal