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From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Bulger
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1993Jan10.230224.13553@athena.mit.edu> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:
>Costs are high.  One reason there are a lot of high-paying jobs in the
>city is so employees can afford to live there.  My sister is in law
>school in NYC.  Once she starts working she will lose 40% of her income
>to taxes, and have a much higher cost of living than I do.
>
>Crime rates are high.  This was probably true before the city sales tax,
>but has the extra tax revenue helped?  Or did it all go to pay inflated
>union wages?

NYC has its share of overpaid union members, for sure, but the city's
economic problems have more to do with the welfare payments to defense
industries, sun-belt states and suburbs that have drained city funds
while the roads, bridges, rails, subways, schools, and libraries that
kept the cirty alive were allowed to decay. During the 1970's it was
estimated that NYC had a net federal outflow of taxes close to $10billion.
That money went to boost the economies of those living near 
McDonnel Douglas plants, military bases, or in the new suburbs that used
city services without paying for the cost. And, we don't even have to
mention the federal subsidies of suburban school systems while urban
schools collapsed, or the health costs paid by city residents so that
suburban commuters could drive in to their city jobs, or the destruction
of city neighborhoods and job centers caused by the bulldozers of the
highway program.... 


>
>--
>    John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)


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yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu
From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Bulger
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:30:50 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

In article <73355@cup.portal.com>, James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com writes:
>>(2) Boston is less strict, with market price exposure allowed
>>    when (IF) a tenant vacates. But price controls go back on
>>    with a new tenant.
> 
> This is not "rent control" as it is usually defined (e.g., in Cambridge).

Rents are controlled as long as a tenant is in the apartment, and there 
is a city board that administers the laws. Every real estate lawyer that I
know calls that rent control. There are different forms of rent control
all around the country, but that shouldn't confuse you.

>>(3) It was Brookline that recently -voted- to get rid of rent control,
>>    except when a tenant makes a special application on the basis
>>    of need. 
> 
> I was not aware of this vote.  Good for Brookline.

I should have show you that you are not a reliable source for
information on the subject of rent control.

>>So you score correct on 1 out of 3.
> 
> Two out of 3, but I will not argue semantics any further.

You should have quit while you were behind. You correctly stated the
Cambridge has rent control, but are you game to try this question:

Q1: what size buildings if any are exempt from cambridge rent control
    and under what conditions?
Q2: if a building is zoned for <N> apartment units, and built to that
    specification, can the rent control board decided without reference
    to other health, zoning, or safety laws that a building is considered
    by them to have <N>+<M> units?






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From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: State Socialism
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:09:31 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <4348@mitech.com> gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette) writes:
>In article <58169@dime.cs.umass.edu>, yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes: 
>> In article <4271@mitech.com> gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette) writes:
>>>At least with african slavery in the US you could find that human life
>>>actually had -some- value! Was it ever government policy to kill
>>>millions of slaves? No. To "use them up?" No. Certainly not. Slaves were
>>>always in high demand. And once the slaves who had built the south ... 
>>>were free ...
>> 
>> What's the point here? How did it benefit human beings who were treated
>> like beasts of burden to have a "value" assigned to them by the slave
>> market? What does "at least" mean in this context? 
>
>The benefit was that the slaves lived. And their children lived, and so
>on until the time when their descendants were no longer slaves.

Some did, some did not. Still, it's a bizzare argument.

>
>Slaves in the U.S. had two values which were easy to measure.
>(1) economic value of labor.
>(2) being counted via a 3/8'th weighting in census population for
>    congressional representation.
>
>Ironic or not, both these measures tended strongly to preserve the lives
>of slaves. Futhermore there was no RIGHT-OF-PRIVACY concept in those
>days that would have allowed a slave owner to secretly destroy a
>slave just because his economic value went negative.

Slave owners had no need to secretly kill slaves. Slaves were chattel, and
could be disposed of at the pleasure of the "owner". And, even guards in
concentration camps get some "value" from their victims. This value does
not necessarily act to benefit the victims, however.

>And that subject brings us back to the false notion that the Capitolists
>"cut off" the USSR. It is absurd to think that you can have substantial
>economic exchance between nations and only have high-level carefully
>controlled personal contacts between peoples. It was Lenin
>would decided in the "short run" that a cut-off from the west was needed,
>and Stalin who made that a way of life. 

This is counter-factual. During WWII and after detente there was substantial
economic exchange between the US and the USSR. Please cite a source for 
this "decision" of Lenin's. I don't believe it.

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Newsgroups: ne.politics
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Bulger
Organization: The World
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:59:03 GMT


From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
>> The capital of NY is Albany (that's that town up where the thruway
>> turns left.) So chalk up another pork barrel that might have helped
>> NYC, they gave it away to some town that wouldn't have even existed
>> w/o it. Feh. Albany's only other claim to fame is the only 50 lane
>> bowling alley in all of, er, Albany.
>> 
>
>But the fact that Albany is the capital is probably a godsend
>to the rest of the state.  If NYC was the capital, they'd have
>even more control over how the state is run.

So? They probably *should* have more control, all the rest of the
state does is vote higher state income and property taxes knowing full
well 80% of that is going to come from NYC and not affect them much
(especially if it's posed as "business properties valued over $10M",
or rate increases for incomes over $100K which are pretty rare north
of The Bronx (in NY state.) Then they vote in conservative republicans
like Rockefeller (by a hair) to make sure NYC doesn't spend anything
in proportion to their responsibilities (at least Cuomo has been
better in this regard.) No one is deluded or fooled, even if some
folks upstate like to imagine they are.

>I've always thought that one problem in MA is that Boston is
>the capital, and too much of Legislature is directed at doing
>what is best for Boston and the other towns inside of 128.

Isn't that where most of the people live? You want maybe an
international airport in Deerfield?

>I think a city in the center of the state (Worcester, for
>example) would make a far better capital, because the 
>legislators then wouldn't be overly influenced by the
>concerns of the state's largest city, but could look at the
>state as a whole a bit more.

Oh, there's an idea, let's make them stare at cows more to get some
perspective...

You can only see so far.

>This seems to work well in Pennsylvania.

Need an airline schedule (heh heh.)

>Neither Philadelphia
>nor Pittsburgh is the capital: Harrisburgh, halfway in between,
>is. Thus, the Legislature doesn't just do whatever is best
>for Philadelphia, but tries to work for the whole state.

Yeah, like argue about whether or not to keep dry counties dry and
whether or not to build another sylvester stallone statue in Phila...

I don't think Penn is a particularly good model for real states like
MA, NY and CA. When was the last time you felt an urge to go to Penn
for any reason? Can't say I ever have. The best I've ever heard of
Pittsburgh is that they say the atmosphere is not quite poisonous any
more.

-- 
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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: Bulger
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:30:48 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <BZS.93Jan11195903@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry  
Shein) writes:
> >I've always thought that one problem in MA is that Boston is
> >the capital, and too much of Legislature is directed at doing
> >what is best for Boston and the other towns inside of 128.
> 
> Isn't that where most of the people live? You want maybe an
> international airport in Deerfield?

No. A Legislature should have some perspective. The problem
is that small cities have different problems than large cities,
have different problems form towns, have different problems from
rural areas.  A legislature that meets in the center of the 
biggest city seems to view the whole state as if it were that
city, and ignores the problems of the rest of the state.
Too many Legislators seem tot think that "MA == Boston.

> 
> >I think a city in the center of the state (Worcester, for
> >example) would make a far better capital, because the 
> >legislators then wouldn't be overly influenced by the
> >concerns of the state's largest city, but could look at the
> >state as a whole a bit more.
> 
> Oh, there's an idea, let's make them stare at cows more to get some
> perspective...

Ah, I see your perspective now. If someplace isn't a big
city it's a cow pasture.

> 
> You can only see so far.
> 
> >This seems to work well in Pennsylvania.
> 
> Need an airline schedule (heh heh.)
> 
> >Neither Philadelphia
> >nor Pittsburgh is the capital: Harrisburgh, halfway in between,
> >is. Thus, the Legislature doesn't just do whatever is best
> >for Philadelphia, but tries to work for the whole state.
> 
> Yeah, like argue about whether or not to keep dry counties dry and
> whether or not to build another sylvester stallone statue in  
Phila...
> 
> I don't think Penn is a particularly good model for real states  
like
> MA, NY and CA. When was the last time you felt an urge to go to  
Penn
> for any reason? Can't say I ever have. The best I've ever heard of
> Pittsburgh is that they say the atmosphere is not quite poisonous  
any
> more.

Well, given my choice between going to Pennslvania or New York,
I know which I'd pick (and it wouldn't be New York).

Pittsburgh is actually one of the cleanest cities in the US.
It also has a number of nice features, including a nice
downtown (which is much safer than most big cities), THE
best dinosaur collection in the US (Yes, the Carnegie has a
better collection than the American Museum of Natural History,
though the latter is also quite good), a good symphony orchestra,
several good sports teams, etc. And, importantly: good people.


--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: Re: Wanted: Epilady (pulls hair of legs)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:31:13 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: galaxy.think.com

Hi,

	My wife got hers at Anne&Hope.  She uses it below the
knee and claims that it is less painful than waxing. It costs
less than $20.

-- 
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OS Software Engineer    | confronted by idiots, secure in the knowledge that
Thinking Machines Corp. | you could dismember them easily, while you calmly
Cambridge, MA           | proceed to dismember them easily.
From: aew@spitfire.unh.edu (Allan E. Wright Jr.)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Sega Genesis Cartridges
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spitfire.unh.edu

Got any for sale?

Especially interested in John Madden Football (Newest version)

Thanks
Al

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Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell)
Subject: Computer Show Information for Northern Computer Shows
Keywords: COMPUTER SHOW INFORMATION NORTHERN
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:19:23 GMT

Hello All,
Unfortunely the information from Northern Computer Shows ran out at the end
of last year. I wonder when their next computer show will be and where it
will be held. I am still getting info for the KGP shows.
Any information on shows put on by Northern will be appreciated.
73 Eric eac@world.std.com

Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: neenan@miki.pictel.com (Kevin Neenan)
Subject: Info on Harbor Cruise
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:04:56 GMT

Maybe someone in this group can help me. About a month ago I saw, in the
Boston Globe, an ad for ( I think ) the "Spirit of Boston". A cruise ship
that cruises the harbor. Is it fully enclosed? Do they have dinner dances
on board? I'm picturing an elegant, romantic atmosphere. People dressed
in evening attire, champagne, dancing close. Is this what it's like? Or
do we have to wear foul weather gear and chum off the back of the boat
for supper?
If anyone has been on this cruise I'd appreciate the info. Also, how much
is it and how do I make reservations?

Thanks, in advance, for the help.


Kevin Neenan   phone: 508 977 8254 (weekdays)

or 

neenan@pictel.com



Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Subject: Re: Computer Show Information for Northern Computer Shows
Keywords: COMPUTER SHOW INFORMATION NORTHERN
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:21:05 GMT

eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) writes:
>Unfortunely the information from Northern Computer Shows ran out at the end
>of last year. I wonder when their next computer show will be and where it
>will be held. I am still getting info for the KGP shows.
>Any information on shows put on by Northern will be appreciated.

There was an ad on the radio for an IBM/Intel show (the kind where
vendors sell hardware cheap) coming up this weekend, 1/16, at the
convention center in Marlboro Mass.  Look for more of their ads.

-rich
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From: psm@cs.brown.edu (Phoebe Martone)
Subject: I want cheap/good functioning VCR (or VCP(non recording))
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:59:44 GMT

I live in Providence, and I'd like to get it cheapo, but it must work well.
It doesn't need to record as I won't be using that function. It's for
my old pop in the rest home to watch comedies.

Phoebe
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From: rr@woody.mitre.org (Robert Rifkin)
Subject: WANTED: DRAM chips
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:44:29 GMT

i would like to buy 2 - 4 meg of 80 ns DRAM chips 1 Meg x 9.

    Robert Rifkin               Phone: (617) 271-2783
    MS E025
    The MITRE Corporation       ARPA: rr@mitre.org
    Bedford, MA  01730		UUCP: {decvax,philabs}!linus!rr



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From: mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: PageMaker for Windows wanted
Keywords: PageMaker for Windows
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy)
Organization: cayman.com

Murray UU Church in Attleboro MA is looking for a copy of PageMaker for 
Windows to do the church newsletter. We don't need the most recent version, 
but we do need the manuals for the software (the church secretary has no 
experience with the program). Being a church, we don't have much money to 
spend, but donations are fully tax-deductible (and we'll send you a nice 
letter on church stationery to document your contribution). If you have a 
copy of PageMaker/Windows you would like to donate/sell (or if you need more 
information), send email to mccoy@cayman.com. Thanks.



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From: nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Nancy Pilsch)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: Re: Kitten(s) wanted!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:12:54 GMT
Followup-To: ne.wanted,misc.wanted,rec.pets.cats,misc.forsale.wanted
Distribution: ne
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc

There is the Buddy Dog Humane Society in Sudbury.  Its a no-kill shelter,
about a 20-30 minute drive west from Boston.  But, how would you like a
black young adult?  He is incredibly affectionate, very nice, sociable guy.
 He is still intact, but I would be willing to pay for half of the
neuturing procedure.  What do you say?? ;-)

Nancy
nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com
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From: gilmour@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Jeffrey R. Gilmour)
Subject: 9600 baud modem
Reply-To: gilmour@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:51:45 GMT

I'm looking for the least expensive used internal modem out there for an
IBM compatible (386sx).  Anybody upgrading to 14.4k?

-Jeff

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Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: CDROM drive wanted for PC/DOS
Reply-To: shawn@monitor.com
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:45:31 GMT

looking for a used CDROM drive.  it's going to live with a 486 Zeos PC clone.

my scsi controller uses the Adapted 1542 chipset (though one would hope that  
scsi is scsi!).

anyone got anything out there they want to get rid of?  i only need the drive  
(theoretically) since i've got a controller.

-- 
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
Director, BCS NeXT
shawn@monitor.com
Newsgroups: comp.misc.wanted,ne.wanted,ny.wanted,athena.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.mac,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale,ne.forsale,ny.forsale
From: salzman@athena.mit.edu (David Salzman)
Subject: WTB monochrome VGA monitor
Keywords: VGA B&W monochrome monitor
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: ne,ny
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:46:08 GMT

I am interested in buying a monochrome VGA monitor.  Please send E_Mail
if you have one for sale.
 salzman@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: shapiro@cfsctc.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Subject: *AT* DESKTOP *CASE* WANTED
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Date:  7 JAN 93 19:29:33 EST



I want a desktop case for an AT. It must be capable of holding up to 5
5.25" half height devices.

A 200w+ power supply is also required.

It should also have the key for the keylock as well as a reset button, the
speaker and all mounting hardware, brackets, screws, etc.

Regards,
Steve.

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From: obrien@hri.com (Jim Obrien)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: PURCHASING AN ENGAGEMENT RING
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:26:11 GMT
Reply-To: obrien@bigbird.hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

I am currently looking for an engagement ring. Something
around 1/2 crt or so. Could anyone give me some advise
that would help me buy the best one for the money. I'm
interested in the smaller stone because my girlfriend
doesn't want a big stone. She says it gets in her way.
So thats fine with me !!!!

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From: aew@spitfire.unh.edu (Allan E. Wright Jr.)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: Honda Interceptor
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:17:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: spitfire.unh.edu


Wanted - Early model Honda Interceptor 500 or 600 in good condition.
(willing do accept cosmetic problems like scratches - minor rust, etc)

Spring is coming!

Will consider other sport-type bikes. Any offers? Can pick up in N.E. area.

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Internet: AEW@UNH.EDU       | what you think it means. -The Princess Bride
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Newsgroups: ne.wanted
From: scottso@panix.com (Liquid Light)
Subject: Mac/Apple IIgs keyboard and mouse
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:24:08 GMT
Organization: Panix, (Home of the overflowing ashtray )
Keywords: keyboard/mouse



I have an Apple IIgs CPU and monitor on the way but it is coming
sans mouse and keyboard.  So I need an Apple or Mac keyboard and
mouse (the keyboard doesn't have to be an extended).

If you have either of these, please drop me a line or call and 
leave a message @ (212) 489-3686 with a price.

					Thanks,
				      Scott Connor

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From: jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joel Fedorko)
Subject: Motorola Saber or MX1000 for VHF-Hi
Originator: jfedorko@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Day Data Systems     
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:17:11 GMT

I'm looking for a Motorola Saber or MX1000 (VHF-Hi).
Please send me an e-mail.

-Joel


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Day Data 
jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu        Any opinions I express will be ignored.