From: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu (Son Nguyen)
Subject: Re: A WAY TO STOP PEOPLE FROM USING FILTHY LANGUAGE
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:36:34 GMT



Mr. MWC,

When I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I agree with them (the
so-called offenders).  However, I believe that we should not impose any
such punishment you suggested to the people that offend many of us.

Let's put this way.  For example, if you walk along a street,
accidentally you hear two people fighting and using a lot of obscene
language.  What do you do?  Tell them to stop and shut up or you need
to walk away as quick as you can?

If we consider SCV a free forum, we shouldn't try to stop such incident
by imposing some punishment.  The best way is try to convince them,
better if privately.  If we cannot, that is it.  Let it be that way.
Not many people can convince others easily and successfully.

If we want to live in a free society, we have to limit our own
interest.  We cannot ask everyone to follow one standard.  Your value
can be entirely different, if not opposite, with mine.  Your daily
language can be obscene to me, but it doesn't mean that you must use my
language, unless you want to get along with me.

You might like one way, and others might like others.  Some like poems;
some like argument; some like politics; some like jokes; some like
math; some like stories; etc.  We should not curve or limit to the
topics that we think they are good for us.  Not everyone unanimously
agrees with it.  Sometime I feel disgraceful to see someone trying to
preach the net.  His/her tone sounds like trying to talk down to the
audience, even I know that that person doesn't have that kind of
intention.

What is SCV?  Is it an electronic podium for a classroom, for a
church/pagoda, for a so-called upper class/professional society?  Or is
it a public forum for every Vietnamese?

Should we accept all the "good", the "bad", and the "ugly" in this SCV
forum or just only the "good"?  If just only the "good", what is the
"good"?

Good day,

So+n Nguye^~n


 > Son:
 > I feel that I did not have a choice when they put their low-class filthy
 > language in the titles.  And yes, I did delete their articles after I
 > look at the title.  How could you avoid reading filthy language when
 > the article has title something like "please read" ?   How could you avoid
 > when they send email to you ?
 > 
 > It's is a punishable crime to slander people.  Many companies now have
 > guidelines (my company does) regarding the language, topics for email.
 > This is in response to several pending lawsuits.  The damaged party not
 > only sue the individual but also the company where he/she works.  Needless
 > to say, these companies don't want to hire these trouble makers.  So
 > instead of sueing those who use foul language, you could do the following
 > 
This is person-to-person problem, not the whole SCV group problem.  So
let them handle their problems themselves.

 >  1- If he is still in school, contact the placement office asking for a
 > list of companies that will visit that school.  Most recruiters have email
 > address.  Let them know the email abuser.  Provide the evidence.
 > You can also contact the recruiters of companies that are in the same
 > business which the person is studying.
 > 
 >  2- If she is going to apply for US citizenship, contact the INS and let
 > them know the real character of this person.  INS has plenty of disk space
 > 
 >  3- If the person is currently working, contact the company's
 > employee relation.  Guess who the company will layoff when they have to ?
 > 
 > I find it's a small world.  Last year, my company almost offered to a guy
 > whose name was very familiar to me.  However, his experience and education
 > were not.  When I met this guy in person,  I remebered him right away.
 > He pissed off a lot of people, myself included.  He faked his resume:
 > changed his name to an American name, the school, GPA, work experience.
 > When he saw me, he begged me for forgiveness and not to reveal his real
 > identity.  He said that he was currently laidoff.  I simply could not
 > betray my company.  So for those radical extremists, think about the
 > consequence of your actions.
 > MWC
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