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From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: OS/2's lack of decent SVGA support (Re: OS/2 Drivers for Diamond)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:59:38 GMT

In article <1822@vall.dsv.su.se> harald@vall.dsv.su.se (Harald Fragner) writes:
>usdgog@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Greg Granger) writes:
>: 
>: I a bit p*ssed, after all in IBM's docs it clearly states that os\2
>: works with Tseng based video cards.  THIS IS NOT TRUE.  It doesn't work
>: with ET3000 based cards (well) and a seperate patch is required to get
>: it to work with ET4000 based cards.  This certainly suggests that they
>: did not testing on this type of card.  Someone, decided that there were
>: a lot to Tseng based cards out there so ... they 'claimed' it would
>: work.  Normal people call this a lie, car salesmen call it a deal and
>: corporations consider this SOP (Standard Operating Procedure).
>
>Well I've used two Tseng cards and never had any problems with any verison
>of OS/2. One ET-3000 card in VGA mode (no SVGA drivers for ET-3000) and
>ET-4000 in VGA and SVGA modes. Maybe I'm lucky because I had original
>Tseng cards and not some clone manufacturer who bought the chips and
>f*cked up compatibility.

Well, I have a Tseng ET-4000 from some clone manufacturer who bought
the chips and f*cked up compatability and it STILL works <SEG>. And
no, I haven't installed the ET-4000 patches. I think that Greg need to
check out the README file. Try putting the card in 8-bit mode, etc,
even though I didn't have to do this, mine is running in 16-bit just
fine, some people have had to...

TTYL - Steve


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: Instant Recall gives me trap e's.
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:20:02 GMT


In a previous article, dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) says:

>
>
>
>When I try to run instant recall 2.0, a small dos information
>manager, I get trap e's when I try to access certain parts of the program.
>
>What does trap e mean?
>
>I have most of the patches installed on the system and I use the beta
>trident video drivers.


Well, I have since found out that it runs fine in a full screen dos session.
It only has problems when running in a window.

Perhaps it is the video driver which is causeing the problem.
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for the upcomming patches
and new graphics engine.
From: dvss!jtroy@udel.edu (Jay Troy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: First time OS/2 weirdnes and questions...
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 08:46:15 EDT
Organization: Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.



Well this week I had my first bout with some OS/2 weirdness (after 4 months
of using it).  A couple of days ago it froze on me.  I waited to see if it
was really off doing something, and it apparently wasn't.  I rebooted, and
to my surprise, my HPFS was neither corrupted nor rebuilt.  I used the
system for about 1/2 hour and the same thing happened.  Same problem, same
result.  After another clean reboot, I ran the system for about 24 hours
(it generally runs 24 hours/day).

I noticed yesterday eve that one of my folders had a black icon (a first
for me).  I installed the black icon fix a while back, so I was surprised
to see it.  The icon stayed black.  I was screwing around with the system
after that, and it locked up again.  I rebooted (cleanly again?!?!?!) and
everything seems fine about 15 hours later.  The icon isn't black, and
the system is humming.

This is pretty strange, but I think whatever it was has cleared itself
up, maybe it was gas.  Gee, maybe I'll just uninstall it, put it back
on the shelf and reload MSDOS and Windows.  Or maybe I'll just sit here
and beat my face in with a brick over and over.  I'll never understand
the logic of "Gee there's a problem, I guess I'll just quit instead of
trying to figure out what's wrong."  OS/2 is the best thing for the
desktop since color.

---

A couple of questions for the rumor mill:

1)  Has anyone heard of an addition of scalable fonts for PM?  Kind of like
    DV/X sports?  Is this in the works?

2)  Has anyone heard any further details about the late Aug/early Sept
    OS/2 2.0 Win/3.1 support release?

3)  Has anyone heard of a Motif/Open Look/X version of PM?

4)  How does the IBM X extension work, does it take over for PM, or convert
    the X calls to PM calls?


 Jay Troy        Delaware Valley Solution Systems, Inc.
                 Computing Solutions for Business and Industry
                 P.O. Box 190 // Claymont, DE 19703 // (302)798-DVSS
                 Internet: ...!udel.edu!dvss!jtroy (jtroy@dvss.UUCP)
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From: MLONG@isucard.card.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: 32 bit HPFS?
Organization: CARD
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:27:50 GMT

In article <4138@bimacs.BITNET>                                                 
orenalex@bimacs.BITNET (Alex Oren) writes:                                      
                                                                                
>In article <1992Aug24.043935.22113@unixg.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealt
>>OK, everybody's drooling over the 32 bit Graphics Engine, but what            
>>about the 32 bit HPFS? I think it's in beta with LAN server.                  
>>                                                                              
>>Will it be in the autumn CSD?                                                 
>>                                                                              
>>(Hmm, I don't think I want to be teh first one to try this newer HPFS!        
>>if the GRE blows up, no harm. IF HPFS goes nuts, uh oh!)                      
>                                                                               
>I've installed LAN Server 2.0 advanced where i work.                           
>It uses HPFS386 (presumably 32-bit) on top of OS/2 1.3.2 (CSD level 5050)      
>however, you cannot opt to install only the file system without the            
>server. (pity, it's faster).                                                   
>                                                                               
>Any info as to when will we get HPFS386 on top of OS/2 2.0 ?                   
>                                                                               
>Thanx,                                                                         
>Alex.                                                                          
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
Its in OS/2 LAN Server 3.0 beta, available for about $150 at 1-800-IBM-3040     
Mike Long                                                                       
Iowa State University                                                           
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: OS2 MPC compatibility?
Reply-To: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 04:48:12 GMT

I hate the word "Multimedia" and I think the MPC specifications are a bunch
of crap.  But I will be using my computer for one aspect of Multimedia:
musical sequencing.
I am a pianist/keyboardist, and I would like to use my computer for composing.
Does anybody know if DOS or Windoze sequencers will work under OS2 ?
I will *probably* (I don;t have the hardware or software yet) be using
Voyetra SP Classic with my digital keyboard connected through the MIDI
port in the back of the SoundBlaster Pro.
As I do not yet have any of the hardware or pprogram, I am open to any 
suggestions as to what WILL work.
BTW, multitasking is not important while sequencing.  But I do Not want to
boot from DOS.  (however DOS box is fine if necessary).

Thanks in advance,
Peter
From: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Warning! The file SWAPPER.DAT is full!
Keywords: swap memory csd
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:17:28 GMT
Reply-To: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Sep1.065606.24673@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
dgenr8@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tom Harding) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Am I the only one who gets this error on a regular basis?
|> 
|> I applied the IBM patch to the kernel (FTP'd it from
|> software.watson.ibm.com),
|> thinking I would no longer be troubled by this error, but
|> no such luck.
|> 
|> Does this mean that, even with virtual memory, I am
|> utterly out of space?
|> If this were the case, one would think that the message
|> would be a generic
|> "out of memory" error, rather than a swapper-specific
|> one.
|> 
|> This is happening on a true-blue model 70 with 11M RAM and
|> a 60M hard disk,
|> about 5M of which is usually reported to be free.
|> 
|> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|> 
No, everyone with a nearly full disk will get this message.
The swappath 
statement in you config.sys contains values for a minimum
swap file size, and
a minimum amount of space to leave on the drive - my system
sets this to 2 Meg
- this would give you 3 Meg if yours is the same - opening a
few applications
would see this 3 Meg get swallowed up by the swap file quite
quickly.

You have several options:

* Alter your swappath statement to give you an extra meg or
so.
* Fit an extra drive (not easy with the model 70)
* Start deleting files (and run chkdsk as well) !

Ultimately you're going to have to go for the second one of
these, but the
last will bring most benefits - I had OS/2, DOS 5, Windows
3.1, NDW 2, Winword
2, Excel 3 and others on a 60 Meg drive, so don't give up yet
! Do you also
suffer from extremely slow printing of ATM fonts ? - This
will improve too
with more disk space available.


David J Jackson   Telephone +44 473 645805
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From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SYS3176 when booting specific DOS from C:
Keywords: SYS3176, specific DOS from C
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:19:45 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

Hello.

I can't boot a specific DOS from C: (OS/2 is booted from D:).
I always get SYS3171 (invalid instruction at 0009458c,
equivalent to illegal op'code (#6)),
apparently before anything from CONFIG.SYS on C: has been obeyed.

I have a 198 Mbyte SCSI disk with an Adaptec 154X adapter
(this problem occurred with the old, shipped AHA154X.ADD
 and with the newer one (June, I think) from ftp-os2)
which is partitioned as 100 Mbyte primary FAT (DOS boot),
97 Mbyte logical HPFS (OS/2 boot) and 1 Mbyte Boot Manager.

My best guess is that I can't boot a specific DOS from C:
anyway because I have a SCSI disk which the specific DOS wants to control,
which OS/2 won't allow.

Any help or information will be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes,

Horst
From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why get CSet/2 rather than using GCC/GDB etc?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:25:17 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: connor.berkeley.edu

I've just installed GNU Emacs, GCC, GDB on my system, and feel very happy 
with what it can do.

While $295 sounds like a great price for a commercial development system,
what are the major advantages of CSet/2 over using the GNU stuff under OS/2?

Richard Stanton
From: robert.fielder@canrem.com (robert fielder)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ati ultra
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:51:02 GMT
Reply-To: "robert fielder" <robert.fielder@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


BD>Except that the ATI  board is using the  IBM 8514/A drivers (ATI  has no
BD>drivers for OS/2 v2.0 yet). The IBM boards do not have coprocessors,  so
BD>of course the drivers  ignore them on the  ATI board. Your ATI  board is
BD>running in IBM compatable mode, which explains the slow speed.

RF>Others who use the ATI 8514a boards, using IBM 8514a drivers, claim
RF>lightning speed!

BD>Really? At  our site,  we find  them identical  to the  IBM boards  when
BD>running OS/2...

Bill:

The original message was from a user who went from VGA to ATI 8514a,
and found the ATI 8514a to be slower.

I was not making a comparison with IBM boards or any suchlike....and,
the claims of lightning speed are, of course, also in comparison to
VGA and SVGA.

Robert

Entered on Tue  09-01-1992  17:19:04 from Brampton, Ontario, Canada
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From: hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman)
Subject: OS/2 considerations in modem selection?
Followup-To: hartzman@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: modem, OS/2
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:23:35 GMT

Are there any special OS/2 considerations I should keep in mind when looking
for a modem (9600, 14.4k)?

Thanks in advance.

Les.



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From: mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us (Matthew Staben)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help, I deleted the command shells folder
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:15:10 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

> In article <Btpy4B.Gy1@world.std.com> azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth) writes:
> >I accidently deleted the folder that has the OS/2, DOS, and WINOS/2
> >shells in them, and now Im feeling pretty fucked. Of course, since I
> >just installed my machine two days ago, I havent done a complete
> >backup yet, and now am at a loss as to how to get them back without
> >reinstalling everything. (using find to find stuff doesnt turn up anything,
> >Ive a feeling that not only were the desktop icons deleted, but so where the
> >executables)
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >-- 
> >Billy D'augustine
> >azog@world.std.com
> >
> >Atari: Power without the price.
> 
> Perhaps you could drag a template for PROGRAMs, and tell them to point to
> WINOS2.COM, CMD.EXE, COMMAND.COM, etc.  And make a Command Prompts folder
> to put them in.
> 
> -- 
> Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
> " BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
>         -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech

 
Its actually quite easy.  Drag out a program folder, and go to the 
"Session" prompt, pick the session you desire (ie, windowed, DOS, etc) 
and then go to the "Program" page and put a single period in the program 
path/name.  This will cause a default to be used, and should work unless 
you've radically changed the environment settings (ie, path, libpath).
 
Matt

mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG)
Subject: Re: Just what IS Alt-F1 (was Re: Multiple Desktops....)
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:10:59 GMT

mm459504@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Michael Miller) writes:
: In article <60052@mimsy.umd.edu> rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff) writes:
: >Interesting that you should mention this.  I crashed my system all the way 
: >to having to do an Alt-F1 to bring it back yesterday (warning:  I downloaded
: >[Rest Deleted]                                                                 
: 
: 
: I've heard a number of references to this infamous Alt-F1-at-bootup sequence
: and was curious as to what it did exactly. (I've heard that it disallows
: program starts and I've also heard it erases the Svgadata.pmi file)
: 
: So what does it do?
: 
: Mike
: 
: 
: 
: --
: "You seem ah decent fellow.  Ahd hate to keel you." - I. Montoya
: "Well, you seem a decent fellow.  I'd hate to die." - Wesley
: mm459504@longs.lance.colostate.edu

Everthing goes back to defaults. desktop, colors, screen rez everything.
Your os2.ini, config.sys and os2sys.ini are renamed and replaced with
the original installed defaults.

jin meng
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: brown-sh@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (shawn c brown)
Subject: Re: Why not OS/2 ???? Hmmmmmm
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:05:55 GMT

In article <92245.233235REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>  First no flames for typos - I can;t controll cursor position in this
>system...
>
>   Why not buy OS/2 1.x, uprade to OS/2 2.0, use the "blank" disks
>and qualify for the free upgrade to OS/2 2.1, 3.0, etc.  Now, how
>many sdisks do you get for your $20?  Besides, the next version may
>run well!  Furthermore, if we all invest at least $20, (a) IBM will
>have some revenue to further their development, (b) the apparent
>installed base will be larger & OS/2 apps will eventually appear
>and (the best reason - c) IT WILL THOUGHROUGHLY PISS OFF MICROSLOTH
>and possibly make them release WIN32 and NT (Not There, Not True,
>Not Today, Not Tomorrow...)
>  I vote $20 to scare Microsoft out of complacency, who's with me!
>"Come on, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
				^^^^^^^

	I REALLY hope you were kidding...!

>
>    Jeff Andle
From: si0_tb90020@debet.nhh.no
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: os/2 win3.1 support
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:45:00 MET
Distribution: comp
Organization: Norwegian School of Economics

In article <1992Sep2.1480.26263@dosgate>, "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com> writes:
> Thompson wrote on 09-01-92 regarding OS/2 WIN3.1 SUPPORT *BETT:
> 
> T >My my.  Maybe that's why it has taken so long...IBM has been 
> T >bug-fixing Windows 3.1.
> 
> I think they would have been better off fixing their own code first.  I 
> haven't found any bugs in 3.1 yet after heavy use since April.  I have 
> however witnessed a number of OS/2 "anomalies" until I left the OS behind.
> 

I still find that Win 3.1 is buggy. I have been thrown out o Win 3.1 on
numerous occations, and have had chrashes quite often. I really hate it.
When I run it, I feel like walking on thin ice (Win 3.1) over a deep
cold dark sea (DOS).

Terje
From: klliou@milton.u.washington.edu (Kan-Lee Liou)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: left-hand mouse
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:51:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I set up my MS mouse to be left-handed in OS2, but when I open any application
in Windows Programs folder, it becomes right-handed.
How can I make it left-handed for the Windows programs?
Thank you.

Kan-Lee, klliou@u.washington.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ZOO errors!
Keywords: ZOO
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:20:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep1.205803.9118@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:
>I'm using an old version of ZOO (2.1) which is giving me FATAL I/O errors.  
>Additionally, newer files need the newer version.  Where can I get a new
>version of ZOO that my old versiion will work with or that comes in a ZIP
>format?  Thanks.

2.1 is the current version of zoo.  If yours is failing for some
reason, download the OS/2 version from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Look for:

/pub/os2/all/archivers/zoo210e.exe

This self-extracting archive contains bound executables (meaning it'll
run under DOS as well) for zoo 2.1.  It supports HPFS file names.




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From: trepe00@DMI.USherb.CA (ERIC TREPANIER)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: os/2 win3.1 support
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:12:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: DMI.Bu0FpH.8K1
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique

In article <14804@mindlink.bc.ca> Steve_Goyette@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Goyette) writes:
>You do of course realise that you are setting yourself up for OOOOHHH so many
>replies. I have been using OS/2 for 6 months now.  Other than the first little
                                     ^^^^^^^^
>adjustment that any change neccessitates, I have had absolutely NO problems.
>Before this I was using Win 3.1 and just wasn't able to run multiple DOS
                         ^^^^^^^

So you were in the Windows 3.1 beta test program?

To my knowledge, the final release of Win3.1 was not available 6 months ago.


Eric
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pzs3761@tamsun.tamu.edu (Pete Sierant)
Subject: Re: POSIX/U... for OS/2
Organization: chaotic to the abstract
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:06:51 GMT

In article <ww9JqB2w164w@uuisis.isis.org> evanc@uuisis.isis.org (Evan Champion) writes:

[...]

>Another thing that I would like to see is a new HPFS driver that is more 
>like Unix, lets you use "/" and "\" when changing directories and is case 
>sensitive.  The case sensitivity is partially there, with the file system 
>being able to record the case but not being sensitive to the case entered.  
>Another thing, why are there spaces allowed in filenames?  I realize that it 
>is good in a word processor to be able to save a file as "Letter to Norm" 
>instead of "Letter.to.Norm", but spaces are a real pain when you have to do 
>file manipulation in CMD.EXE (having to "" everything).  As above, any comments
>will be graciously accepted!
>
>Evan

Not to revive an old thread, but there are those (like me), who would
rather kiss Dan Quayle on the lips than deal with case sensitivity.
As for the other bits you mention, get 4OS2, a shareware replacement for
CMD.EXE. It allows "\" and "/", has file name completion to make spaces
easy to deal with, history window, aliases so you can type mv, ls, and cat
instead of move, dir and copy. It's probably somewhere on Hobbes.


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