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From: tim@corcoran.rain.com (tim corcoran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: TypeSMITH announcement
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:17:51 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <ldtaylor.04p2@tbag.tscs.com> ldtaylor@tbag.tscs.com (Lance Taylor) writes:

>         FCII is totally unexpandable and, in my opinion, is only good for 
>         those who do little more than type in a few select fonts...
> 


Yeah exactly, how dare they produce a program that implements only 99% of 
the requirements of only 99% of the market. 

What nerve! 

Don't they know that someone somewhere is going to need to use a Cyrillic
font! 

What a bunch of inconsiderate bozos!

Jeez! lighten up buddy!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: Game-maker "Visionary"
Originator: shulick@cineret
Reply-To: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:01:51 GMT


Can someone do a review of Visionary?  Saw it in a store today.  It
looked pretty good.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: easton@zds-oem.mi04.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: A1200 Notes
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 01:27:13 GMT

  I picked up my A1200 from my dealer on Thursday.  I've been on
the road for the last couple of days (Christmas and all) so I havent
had much of a chance to really use it yet.

  Here are a couple of things I have noticed so far.

1.  It does not come with the 23 to 15 pin video adapter.  There was
an errata sheet in the box saying this.  I had my dealer throw one
in for another $15.00.  ouch!

2.  The hard drive install went smoothly.  Yes, you need a cable,
no you cant fit a 3.5" drive.  Yes, the hard disk mounting bracket
is in there, it doubles as the keyboard support.

3.  Since I bought a "no HDD" version, the OS3.0 package came 
without a Install disk.  I thoughtfully brought along my 2.1 upgrade
and installed that on the hard disk.  I need to update it to the 3.0
stuff.

4.  The keyboard is the international version, with two extra keys,
one near the return key and one near the left shift.  See the picture
in Amiga World.  Its that keyboard, except that they dropped the
English Pound sign an replaced it with the US signage.

5.  Things are really packed inside the case.  A combined 030, RAM
and SCSI board looks iffy, based on available real estate. (GVP,
prove me wrong, please :-).

  I'll try to put together a review for Dan Barrett in the next 
couple of days.

  I'd like to thank George Robbins and his crew for putting together
the A1200.  Its a neat package.  The internal's have a real quality
look to them and the engineering is impressive.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:24:21 GMT

In <1992Dec28.231433.7099@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>similarly priced to smaller but much faster HDs.  Sure, CBM can buy in bulk
>but so what?  Floppy drives bought in bulk would be pretty cheap too, so
>the relative cost should stay the same... at least 6x more expensive than a
>floppy drive.

No. Floppies are sold much more than CD-ROMs. The bulk price for floppies
is therefore not much lower than the price for a single unit.

Regards,
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From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Does KingFisher work?
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:01:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd) writes:

>I dl'ed KingFisher (the FF utility) only to find I keep getting an
>index error. I've deleted the file and reinstalled it from the 
>archive but to no avail.

David, I just went through the very same thing.  What you need to do is
edit the KingFisher.config file and change the lines

# Unsplittable datafiles (path plus filename)
FishIndexFile=KF:Fish.Index
NameIndexFile=KF:Name.Index

Then put an Assign statement in your User-Startup to set KF: to wherever
you have placed KingFisher.  Everything should work just fine.

(Udo, are you reading this?  These lines in the config file shouldn't need
to be changed at all!  Just set it up like this and tell people in the docs
that they need to make a KF: assignment.  Even people who don't read any
docs will get an "Insert volume KF:" requester and realize they need to
make the assignment.)
-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 26 Dec 92 09:54:29 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In a previous post someone said that the Amiga can not have a flicker free
800x600 display.  Well, on another newsgroup yesterdauy, I read in a CBM
engineers post a summary of all the Aga resolutions, and the scan rate the is
required for them.  He said that 800x600 requires a 72khz monitor frequency to
display without flicker.  These monitors are out there.  I don't believe they
scan down to 15khz for the lower resolutions, but in a short bit when AGA is
dominanat in the Amiga world, no one will be writing software theat runs in
less than 640x400 at 35khz, then the multiscans that go between 35 and 72 khz
will be perfect for all programs.
As far as CDROM being the future standard, guess again.  The future is in
CDRAM.  A few years back, Tandy developed one.  It should probably hit the
market in a few years.  That will end CDROM entirely.  Who wants 660 megs of
read only media, when they can have 660 megs of read/write media?  The short
term is definately the 20 meg  flopticals that can read/write 720,880. and 1.44
meg formats.
                Jay Brown

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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 07:08:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <72417@cup.portal.com>

[Thad sez:]
>
>Y'know, probably most don't remember this, but at one of the FAUG (First
>Amiga Users' Group) meetings during 1986, Jim Becker demo'd his InfoMinder
>program with a CD-ROM on the Amiga.  Some encyclopedia on a CD-ROM, stereo
>sound, and intermixed with the Amiga's generated graphics.
>
>Stupendous.  It brought down the house.  And the "house" was packed literally
>wall-wall and floor-ceiling in those days (when even Allen Hastings demo'd
>his first efforts).
>
[...] 

>Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]

Umm.. I think Jim was using a laserdisc player with InfoMinder, 
wasn't he? I remember seeing him demoing his setup at one of the very
first Amiga shows held near LAX at the Airport Hilton in '86. Come to
think of it, this may have been a combined Amiga/C64 show. He was
using the National Gallery of Art laserdisc (with about 50,000 works
of art on it). He may have had other LDs but that's the one 
that stuck in my mind. Didn't see any CDs though. Did non-music
data-only CDs exist in '86? 

Also at this same show were some guys who called themselves
"Copperstate", selling what I think was the first Amiga nibble-copier.
They sold out of every one they had brought with them. C-Ltd was
selling one of the first Amiga hard drive interfaces (remember,
back in '86 the only Amiga you could buy was the A1000 :-)
Ahhh... o/~ memories o/~

Harv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:55:24 GMT
Keywords: amigaguide

In article <38168@cbmvax.commodore.com> ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals) writes:
> Unknown.  We are looking at it.  It is not necessarily as simple as it would
> appear, just to produce the docs.

I'm well aware of the difficulty of getting good technical documentation out
of programmers. I have a coworker who's always tellng me about this or that
neat new tool, so I say "write up a man page". I end up writing them.

> Then there are the disk space concerns, and so on.

Make 'em optional.

> Contact information for the Committee you mentioned, if you think it would
> be relevant to future AmigaGuide docs from Commodore, would be appreciated.

I'll get back to you on this...
-- 
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From: cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Crunching is driving me MAD!
Date: 2 Jan 1993 22:20:16 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: pepper

In article <ekrieger.039y@quasar.hacktic.nl> (Eric Krieger) writes:
>Hmmm, you could try the MASTER Mode within your PP V3.0.  This will
>recognize more crunchers.  Activate it with holding CTRL, Left-ALT
>down, while 'selecting' the word "Powerpackerx.x" in the
>Recrunch-menu (just beneath "Supports:").

Now that's what I call "user friendly"! No doubt if you hold down a
few more keys it will reveal a secret message ? :-) 

To make this post slightly more reasonable, has anyone designed an IFF
form for "compressed" files ? At least that way it should be possible
to "unify" the cruncher mismash that there is today.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: I have 2.04, now what???????????
Date: 30 Dec 92  5:21:00 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Any memory saving techniques for a 1 meg 500?

You bet!  Start saving your pennies for more ram!  ;-)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:13:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.221442.7137@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
> > But as for CD-ROM being THE future, that's bologna.

> Why does this remind me of the comments made by a past president of I.B.M.?
> Something to the effect that "...this company will concentrate on
> typewriters and adding machines, since the entire world's need for
> computers is about 5 machines..."... or words *very* close to that. 
> Pioneering vision, in either case.  MHO, of course.  ;-)

As opposed to arguing for the equivalent of *electric* typewriters?

Read-write mini-CDs hit the market this year. They're going to destroy
casettes.

Read-write full-size CDs will show up pretty soon. They will be compatible with
read-only CDs (the players will play conventional CDs, but the read-write
CDs probably won't play in conventional players).

Say bye-bye to your steam-powered horseless carriage. CD-ROM is a transition
technology.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: redman@mdd.comm.mot.com (Brian Redman)
Subject: Re: photo cd routines now on
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:36:15 GMT

In article <199221.4247.24257@dosgate> "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com> writes:
>-> >   Now when is Commodore going to get off of its corporate duff and
>-> start >supporting desktop Amigas with CD-ROM and Photo CD
>-> technologies? >
>-> >---
>-> >| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>-> >--------------------------------------------------
>->
>-> When are you gonna keep CBM bashing in advocacy??
>
>Another case for just ignoring him.  I was told directly at the WOC
>Toronto that there are negotiations currently underway with Kodak for
>Photo CD.  There is also work going on to get internal CD drives out.
>Infact if MB knows anything about C=, he'll know that C= believes CD Rom
>machines are the way of the future.
>
>Regards
>Grant
>--
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044


Loathe as I am to agree with him, and puzzled as I am 
that he keeps slipping through my kill file, Mr. Barrett
is right for the second time in his life. 

How can Commodore seriously bill the 4000 as a `state of
the art' multimedia machine, for a retail price of $4695 
(Canadian), without a CD-ROM? I think Photo CD is a bust,
or at best, a transition to something better, like a 
PhotoBook (tm) a la Walkman, but CD-ROM is here and now,
and a must-have for anything calling itself multi-media.

Think I'll get to work on that PhotoBook idea! 

             MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!

Especially all of you hardworking guys and gals at Commodore:
 and please accept our comments and criticisms in the spirit
 in which MB intended. NOT! B^)
 
Brian

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From: staff@rabbit.augs.se (Staffan Friberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:26:44 GMT
Organization: Amiga User Group Sweden
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

> >RTFM (read the FINE manual)
>
> Uh, if I may interject here... ?
>
> Many times I've found that the manuals written by *programmers* are difficult
> for the non-programmers/casual users to decipher.  They assume that their
> audience has the computerese background to read between the lines and
> understand the "missing" information.  (Not that anything is missing here,
> I wouldn't know, I haven't yet bothered with the program. Nor do I know the
> computer expertise of the poster).  So, from my experience (as one who
> *always* RTFM, though rarely understands it without a question or two)
> I find that comment to be quite rude because it makes an assumption that
> you don't know to be true.  If you wish to help someone, there is no reason
> to insult them while doing so.
>
> A more polite way of stating it would be: "Have you read the manual?"  This
> makes no assumptions whatsoever and gently reminds the poster of something
> that may have slipped their mind.  You can then follow up with "If not,
> here's how it's done:"

IMHO this problem could be overcome if the poster in his/her question states
that he/she has read the manual and doesn't understand/doesn't find relevant
information. I don't think that one should be ashamed of not understanding a
manual but very often people just can't be bothered to read it in the first
place.

Well.....

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From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Subject: Can I get disk icons for assigns on the workbench?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:48:53 GMT


Is there any way of getting the workbench to display an icon for an assign
to a particular subdirectory so that I don't have to always traverse all
the drawers to go where I need to?

This pertains to dnet's NFS by the way.

Thanks,
Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Date: 31 Dec 92  3:02:57 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

>  >Many times I've found that the manuals written by *programmers* are
difficult
>  >for the non-programmers/casual users to decipher.
> 
> Sorry, wrong in this case. All the Amiga user manuals are *not* written
> by the programmers but by docs specialists.

The portion of the message quoted in your response says nothing about the
manuals being Amiga manuals.  Many of us perforce use Macs, IBMs, etc. at
work and are exposed to various docs.  I know that *I* would not assume
that the above comment refers to Amiga docs without specific mention of
same.


Regards,

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From: loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd)
Subject: Does KingFisher work?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:04:06 GMT

I dl'ed KingFisher (the FF utility) only to find I keep getting an
index error. I've deleted the file and reinstalled it from the 
archive but to no avail.

Help!

Merry Christmas!

-- 
loyd@seq.uncwil.edu

Amiga 2000 Tower               8megs 32bit Ram   
Supra 2400ZI+ Modem            Sony KV-1311CR Monitor
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 29 Dec 92 05:58:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Dec28.225842.7099
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> In a previous post someone said that the Amiga can not have a flicker
> free 800x600 display.  Well, on another newsgroup yesterdauy, I read in a CBM
> engineers post a summary of all the Aga resolutions, and the scan rate the
> is required for them.  He said that 800x600 requires a 72khz monitor
> frequency to display without flicker.

I saw an A3000 running 800x600x4 under Wb_2.1 on an A1950.  The built-in
dosplay enhanced had to be turned off to get this to work and there was a
slight amount of flicker visible.  This was pretty well controlled by
adjusting the screen colors to reduce their contrast.  Not sure what the
vertical scan rate of an A1950 is but I'd bet it is more like 56-60 Hz and
not the 72 Hz that would be needed to make the flicker invisible.

You have an excellent point:  are there *ANY* monitors that can handle a
15.75 KHz sync freq plus a 72 Hz scan rate?  I don't recall seeing any with
those specs.  I suppose that the A1960 handles this with ease.  Other
alternatives may be few and far between, however.


> Who wants 660 megs of read only media, when they can have 660 megs of read/
> write media?

Me, for one.  The quality of the material that I'd put on such a disk is
pretty poor compared to the commercial offerings.  I don't need a 660 meg
archive, I need 660 megs worth of *good* software.


> The short term is definately the 20 meg  flopticals that can read/write 720,
> 880, and 1.44 meg formats.

The 20 meg SCSI flopticals can r/w the 880k Amiga formatted disks?  How
about the newer 1.76 meg disks?


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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Byte A4000/A3000T-040 Review
Date: 30 Dec 92  4:54:39 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> To address the issue of not opening the top.  I think its a joke.  I work
> with pc hardware every day, installing cards, hard drives, memory,
> replacing motherboards, blah blah blah.  Then I find out I'm not allowed
> to install a meg of ram in my 2000?  Hmmmmmmm.

Ok, this IS a legitimate concern and I'm ALL in favor of CBM scrapping
their ridiculous attitute on opening the case.  However... if you really
wanna see a laffer, open the Mac LC II manual to the section on adding
their Apple IIe card... heh heh... 3 warnings... DON'T TRY THIS YOURSELF...
GET HELP FROM THE COMPUTER DEPARTMENT... RETURN THIS COMPUTER TO YOU LOCAL
DEALER FOR THIS UPGRADE... so with great trepidation of an impossible task,
I open the LC II and discover... 1 and only 1 connector that is shaped
EXACTLY like the plug on the IIe card... Hmmm... plugged in this way it
hangs outside the case and is upside down... no, that just won't do... AH,
HA! Put in this way the card is fully *inside* the case and is right side
up.  Hmmm... I wonder which way it goes... carefully I close the case and
send it back to Cupertino for my IIe card upgrade... NOT!  ;-)



        -=- Ed

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