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From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: ***tHReE LoNeLY hEarTs***
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.185356.14128@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>In article <1aoh3eINNlam@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>>If no one minds, I'd be happy to be another host (hmmm, one William,
>>one Billy, we need a Willy or Will to complete the list :-P  )
>>Disclaimer 1: But, I ain't no expert.
>>Disclaimer 2: I don't even have much positive personal experience in the 
>>	matter.
>>Disclaimer 3: I took Psych 1 in college
>>
>>Sure, you can trust me....sorta.
>
>Hmm...William and Billy, how about me - Baby?  Trust me?!
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	Baby?!!!(Me?) Welcome, baby!!! 
	So, the crew is there! Ummmm, seems not bad...
	How da ya guys think? Mmmm, guys, how about some letters???

---Go go go!
	Bill 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: [song] popular song "Will You Please Stay"                                      [song] popular song "Please Sit for a Little More"
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 04:14:02 GMT


     Once I said, "Many Cantonese songs have Mandarin versions." and
was countered by a my friend, "Many Mandarin songs have Cantonese versions."

     Perhaps "Will You Please Stay" also had its Mandarin version first.
  /   |   /  \/  --   |  \/  ||   |  --+ /   ---  |  \ / \  
 <    |  /        /-  |      ++-  |   X       |   |   |     
  \   |  ---       /  |       //  |  / \      |   |   |     
And "Please Sit For a Little More" was a later Cantonese version.  The
 --+ --- \   --+ \ / --- \    |  \   +-- \ / \   \/    ||   
  |/ ++-      |/  X  /        |      |    X   \      + ||   
  |   //      |  / \ \--      |      /   / \   \       /+-  
	(sung by)
 --- \ / -+- \   +-+ \   \/  | | /   /  
  \   X  /|      | |  \      | | ---    
  /  / \  +-     | |   \     +-+   /    
suspicion is that there is a Cantonese word used in the Cantonese version,
and there is no other Cantonese words in the song.  So probably
the translator could not find a good word.

					 ||| \ /  /       /   |  \/   |  / / /  
					 |+|  X  /       <    |       |  \/     
					 --- / \ ---      \   |       |  --|
From: allenw@buengf.bu.edu (Allen Wieschge)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Stupidest HK babes (Re: Hottest HK babes)
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:52:59 GMT
Reply-To: allenw@buengf.bu.edu (Allen Wieschge)
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Sep28.215841.21179@cs.brown.edu> cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
cut!!
>|> I know it's a little late, but here are my choices:
>|> 
>|> prettiest actressse in hk:
>|> 1. Michele Reis (Lee Gah Yun)
>
>How did she get this stupid last name?  I didn't know she's a mix.  She is 
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>also far from pretty.

HOW?????? I think her stupid last name was given by her dad. Just like how
you get yours!!!!!!!!!
Hey pal, don't flame other people if you are not too sure about something.
Lee ka Yan 's last name is definitely "REIS" because she is half Chinese 
and half Portuguese. 

>
>|> 2. Pauline Chan 
>
>Who the hell is Pauline Chan?

Pauline Chan is Chan Po Lin. She can be seen in many type III movies.
Maybe, you don't have enough sex drive to watch her movies.

>As for my choices for stupidest HK babes.... THERE ARE SIMPLY TOO MANY!!
>Okay, the next poll is the bitchiest HK babes.
>
>							Chainsaw


               >>>>>>------------->   Robin Hood IV
From: siu@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Wai Tak Siu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: GPA
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:35:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep30.182129.12179@objy.com> cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung) writes:
>
>I've heard some schools use a 5.0 system (i.e. A= 5.0).  So a 4.0 student
>is not always an A student.  It depends on the scale the school uses.
>

We have got A=6.0 here at Purdue. Actually, it is just like adding 2.0 to
every grade in the A=4.0 system.

Donald
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: HK Lyrics (Re: Tat Ming Pair)
Keywords: Cantonese
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:17:05 GMT

In article <23099@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>>
>>In article <23046@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>>>
>>>  I don't write cantonese lyrics. But I notice that nowadays HK music
>>>  is really weak in lyrics. Compare it with Sam's oldies, most of 
>>>  today's pop hits suck. 
>>>
>>
>>I couldn't agree more.  Lyrics of Sam's oldies are by far the best.

	I can hardly disagree. But don't forget there're also other
	good pieces of work.
 
>>If you say Tat Ming's lyrics is good, you need to hear to some of
>>Sam's oldies.
>>
>  Well, Sam's Lyrics is the best. I agree. But Tat Ming's is still 
>  good, or second to best :) They are talking different things during
>  different periods of time using different tone and having different
>  style. Oh. I mean Chan Siu Kei and Poon Yuen Leung who work well 
>  with TMP.
	
	I especially like TMP's non-love songs. One good thing about
	Sam and TMP is that they both had many non-love songs. Another   
	is that the lyrics to their songs were very effective. Attributable
	to Chan, he did very well. Poon can write very beautiful love
	song lyrics. He's best at writing love(of different kinds). Another
	good lyric writer is Heung Shu Wai who wrote lyrics to many 
	of Hacken Lee's songs(like Blue Moon).   
> 
>  Just wonder nowadays how would people appreciate a song. By its 
>  lyrics? Melody? Arrangement? Singer's technique? Singer's outlook? 
>  Singer's dancing skill? Or others? 

	Kids: Singer's attributes
	Adults: Music + lyrics + singer's voice 
	Musicians: Music(from a technical point of view) + arrangment(")
		   + sound quality
	Hi-fi maniacs: Sound quality + music
	A serious pop music lover: Music + lyrics + arrangement + performers'
		   performance
	Bill: All of the above 	
>   
>  I think they are listed in ascending importance nowadays. That's 
>  why most of our modern pops pay so little attention on lyrics. 
>  Just put, or create meaningless words into it with wrong usage. 
>  "Who cares?" 

	I.
	I believe a good song is itself a worthwhile message, and
	the lyrics will tell us what it is. 
>   
>  Sigh.

---Cheers,
	Bill
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From: LWLLG@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Well...let all the member in SCHK talk in a new way....
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:27:26 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi, everybody in SCHK....According from my recent observations, people hanging
around this group are really active and innovative. For this reason, why don't
we start communicating in a real time chat mode? Will this make our "conference
" more interesting and interactive? If you guy has already been using IRC (
Internet Relay Chat), would you like to invite other people (especially SCHKers
) into the same channel and talk together?

For the above questions, I would like you guys send me back any postive or neg-
tive responses.

If you never use IRC before, the following info. may help you talk the first
step..

1) In order to join the IRC, you have to register in any Relay servers....
   These are the server I can remember now:  RLY@CORNELLC
                                             RELAY@YALEVM
2) To register as a member, using your sending message command of your system
   ,send a message to one of the above address and append /REGISTER <FIRSTNAME>
   <LASTNAME>

   Ex.  <VMS> Tell / MSG RLY@CORNELLC /REGISTER MATT LEE

3) Then, the Relay server will accept your registration and send you some info.
   files

4) It will be more convenient if you have the XYZZY program (it is an executa-
   ble file) which allow you to logon 7 persons or target you want to talk to

Well, that is all I can say now...for more info., suggestion, advice, or even
complaint. Please post your mail to SCHK or send a direct mail to me

                                              - Matt from NYC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang)
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:15:59 GMT

In article <1aguhkINNfnm@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.005859.17777@oracle.us.oracle.com> kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee) writes:
>>at least during the earlier stages.  China is such a huge country that no
>>country on earth can fully absorb her exports without damage to their domestic
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      I doubt about it !!!
>      I agree that China export a lot of stuff. However, we should take
>      into account that many countries such as the US give favor status
>      to her. If there is no MFN, less people will invest in Southern China
>      and the amount of export will decrease. The MFN actually has stimualted
>      the light industry in China. Otherwise, it might have remained as
>      a totally agricutural country.
>
>Vincent Chan
You got carried away by this misleading name "MFN". Its actually a bare
minimum normal trading relationship. The US equally needs China to keep
its consumer prices(Inflation) down. You think the US is stupid enough
to pop up China. Trade is metually beneficial. So your point stands a
very little chance to be realistic. You can say the same thing about 
Japan, Taiwan etc. The US congress keeps bashing China because China's
bargaining position is not as strong as US's. The US can not do anything
about Japan because they are on equal footing. 
>
>   
>
>   
>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: Why I got this GRADE in Econ...
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:19:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.234915.5158@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN) writes:
>In article <BvAzsw.Mv2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mtam@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Johnny Wu) writes:
>>
>> I'm a sophomore and is undecided in major.
>> But try to get an easy A from Econ.. But on the last test I had STUDIED very
>> hard and thought I got everything down in memory.  But when I got my grade 
>> back I find out that my friend who didn't study and got a better grade then
>> me. Now I feel so stupid and dumb and is looking for a lake to jump in.
>> Could anyone help me to acheive my goal of a failure.. please HELP ME...
>>
>	Not only for Johnny, it is for everyone.
>
>	In my first year Uni. life, One of my lecturers said that "First
>year students are hunting for 'HD' ('A'), second year students are desiring
>desiring for 'Cr' ('C') and final year students are only begging for a
>'Pass'."  Therefore, don't do any silly thing, it is not worth for it.  You
>are not the only one getting a unexpected grade.


	Absoultely true, at least for myself. I worked hardest during
1st yr, not that hard 2nd yr., quite lazy 3rd and couldn't care less
about the final yr. And it turned out that my GPA of every yr didn't
vary more than 5%..... :)

	So, don't worry, be happy. Sometimes, it doesn't mean that
you'll get higher grades if you study much harder. Just do it within
your limits and what matters is that you've done your best... the
hell with the grades!.... :)  [Well, of course, you still need a 
reasonable good grade to feed your personal ego, don't you? :-))]

To all undergrads out there....
Enjoy and precious your undergrad. years! 


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From: gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chinese husbands....
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:19:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania





You know, it's kind of funny of what girls think about
chinese guys for husbands.  Being a girl, i don't think
that i would want a husband of any other race.  In fact,
my roommate who is korean wants a chinese husband b/c
she says that the stereotype of a chinese husband is
"submissive"...Do you guys agree?  I mean, the wife
usually controls the money and usually has the power
in the family.  I'm sure that you guys will disagree
but this seems to be the response from my friends when
i ask them who has control in their family and they
usually say their "mom".  So, i wouldn't mind having a
chinese guy for a husband! 

Grace
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Help someone access Usenet...
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:43:51 GMT


Hello everyone. I'd received an email from a student in HK with internet
(hence ftp) access. But supposedly no Usenet access to our group, 
soc.culture.hongkong. I'll include his email below. Can anyone
from Hong Kong or otherwise make any suggestions to him. How he
can access soc.culture.hongkong? I take it there are people from
???.hku.hk in here if I recall correctly. You can email right to him
if you wish. Thanks.

Thomas.
____________________________________________________________________

From:    <h9107446@hkuxa.hku.hk>
To:      <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: More question about guessing game

	Hello ! Thank you for reply me (Wing-Kin) so soon !
	In fact, I am a Internet user and I cannot get any issues of
'soc.culture.hongkong'. All I've got is just a list of ftp sites, with brief
description about each site. I very interested in GIF images, so I try them one
by one on the list ! Accidentally, I've found asia.lcs.mit.edu, and from the
file 'GUESSING.GAME' I know a little bit of the game.
	Can I subscribe that newsgroup by E-mail or any ftp site has a full 
copy of the newsgroup so that I can get it ?

	Thanks in Advance !

Wing-Kin
From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: They got no brain...
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:09:47 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep28.203830.2948@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:

>I think I should rephrase my comment as I saw some errors in my posting.
>I should say that it is so hard to get a GPA of less than 3.5 in US but
>it is very hard to get more than 3.5 in HK.

I think it depends which school you are attending in the US. Some schools
are tougher than others. For example, in some schools, students can
graduate with Suma Cum Laude (first honor)  when his/her GPA reaches 3.75.
However, some other schools require as high as 3.90.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wong@convex.com (John C. T. Wong)
Subject: Re: Same Name
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:31:03 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>In article <1992Oct4.143049.24955@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, chungk@eecg.toronto.edu (Kevin Chung) writes:
>>
>>Ever met anyone with the same name?  At a conference/trade show a few
>>years ago, I met someone at a booth who had the same first and last
>>name as me (Kevin Chung).  I accused him of stealing my name and he
>>looked puzzled, but after he read my name badge we had a good laugh.
>>Anyways, looking through the list of people posting articles to this
>>newsgroup I've seen familiar names (I'm pretty certain that these
>>names don't belong to anyone I know because of where the articles are
>>posted from).  Has anyone else ever an amusing (or boring meeting)
>>with someone of the same name?

Hey, my name is John Wong.  When people ask me what does "Wong"
translate to, I tell them it means "Smith".  Except it's probably
more common.

Last week I was in a System Administration class with a guy
named John Wang.  So it's his junk mail that I've been
getting.  Hey John are you out there?

Have fun.
-- 
John Wong
Convex Computer Corporation          internet:  wong@convex.com
3000 Waterview Parkway               voice:     (214) 479-3073
Richardson, Texas  75083
From: U61508@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: I am innocent
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:09:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92274.110904U61508
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Hi everyone,
  Do you know who I am? if not, don't bother to read this, it's none of
your business, get out of here.  If you know who I am, did you read the
previous news "MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER"  I type this only for someone else
name A____ T___.  So don't think I'm a lesbian. Bye!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: For those who are in Australia and NZ
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:06:44 GMT


Dear netters,

	G'day Mates.  Especially for those who are in Australia and New
Zealand, are you planning to go home for summer holiday ?  Are you interested
to meet someone on the nets in HK ?  If you are, please e-maill to me.
Because I am trying to organize a meeting in HK for the netters.

PS.  Summer holiday for Australia and NZ is started from early Dec. to late 
     Feb.  You are welcome, if you have got time, even you are not from  
     South hemisphere.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Chinese wife is good? (Was: Why? Why? Now I'm going to tell you why.)
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.005605.17734@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>In article <97133@bu.edu> kingchun@buengf.bu.edu (Tsai King Chun) writes:
>>Yes, that's very true. However, you have to consider the consequences of
>>chasing a girl with boyfriend. You may be criticized by the community, as 
>
>If anyone tries to take away my girl-friend, his neck would be broken
>before the next morning.

And you will be put in jail for the rest of your life. :-)



-Raymond Choy-
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK Lyrics (Re: Tat Ming Pair)
Keywords: Cantonese
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:16:24 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>
>In article <23046@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>>
>>  I don't write cantonese lyrics. But I notice that nowadays HK music
>>  is really weak in lyrics. Compare it with Sam's oldies, most of 
>>  today's pop hits suck. 
>>
>
>I couldn't agree more.  Lyrics of Sam's oldies are by far the best.
>If you say Tat Ming's lyrics is good, you need to hear to some of
>Sam's oldies.
>
  Well, Sam's Lyrics is the best. I agree. But Tat Ming's is still 
  good, or second to best :) They are talking different things during
  different periods of time using different tone and having different
  style. Oh. I mean Chan Siu Kei and Poon Yuen Leung who work well 
  with TMP.
>
>>  Another reason maybe that the Chinese education in HK is not enough.
>>  Not many secondary schools teach how to balance the "Ping Tsak" and 
>>  the exposure to *useful* Chinese Literature is not enough. (BTW, is 
>>  "San Man 3 Si" still in the cirriculum of School Cert? :) 
>>
>It is not only not enough, it is bad.  Few people in HK pay attention
>to Chinese standard.  San Man 3 si is taken away either in '88 or '89.
>And nowadays there is no need to write good lyrics, no that many people
>have the ability to appreciate it anyway.
 
  Just wonder nowadays how would people appreciate a song. By its 
  lyrics? Melody? Arrangement? Singer's technique? Singer's outlook? 
  Singer's dancing skill? Or others? 
   
  I think they are listed in ascending importance nowadays. That's 
  why most of our modern pops pay so little attention on lyrics. 
  Just put, or create meaningless words into it with wrong usage. 
  "Who cares?" 
   
  Sigh.

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