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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:44:38 EST
From:         Gary Sponseller <SPONSELL@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      LSVSDATE MODULE no longer works correctly

I just noticed that the new BITEARN NODES file, created from the VM UPDNODES
program application of the VERS9301 NODUPD file, no longer has the time/date
stamp of the update file...  LSVSDATE MODULE is supposed to be doing this.
The NETSERV copy of this file (dated 1989) and even the latest Listserv copy
of this file (date 1991) both fail to re-stamp the new BITEARN NODES file.

I believe that Berthold Pasch was the person who is responsible for this
file (not Eric Thomas)...  NONETHELESS, the new BITEARN NODES file is
fine other than the wrong time/date stamp.

Just a nit...
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:52:24 -0800
From:         Postmaster & NetInfo <netinfo@VIOLET.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      Network functions and the :internet tag
Comments: cc: eric@searn.BITNET
              08 Jan 93 17:40:22 +0100."
              <9301081646.AA26527@nettlerash.berkeley.edu>

We need to recognize that use of domain names on the Internet and
BITNET may be different. Mapping of domains names to Internet addresses
and NJE/RSCS nodeids is different. Even the domain names may not be
the same. It is easy to get confused when you try to use something
defined for one type of network on another type of network.

I suspect that some of the problems that BITNET/EARN sites are
having with defining the "internet" tag is that on the Internet,
domain names are functionally assigned and used in different ways.
For example, it is possible to have more than one node providing
mail, nameserver, and other services for a single domain address.
In the internet nameserver system this is functionally
defined by having different types of records (A, MX, NS, etc.) for
different purposes, or by defining generic or functional domain names
for different services (for example, gopher.xxx.edu, ns.xxx.edu,
whois.xxx.edu, ftp.xxx.edu). To have different domains for different
functions on BITNET/EARN requires defining a different tag for
each function.

If we try to use one tag for different services, it will not
work if the addressing is functionally different. Or to put it another
way, we need a way of defining different domain names for different
functions.

Bill

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:56:00 -0400
From:         Bob Boag <BOAG@MARSHALL.MU.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistencies in ':internet.' tags

Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET> writes:
>In that case  the proper  thing to  do is  to code  all addresses  under the
>cluster name, and under the cluster name only. So you would have:
>
>     :node.XYZ :internet.XYZ.EDU XYZ1.BITNET XYZ2.BITNET XYZ3.BITNET
>
>>> Both MUVMS1 and MARSHALL claim ':internet' host MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU.
>>> Both MUVMS3 and MARSHALL claim ':internet' host MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU.
>>> Both MUVMS4 and MARSHALL claim ':internet' host MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU.
>>> Both MUVMS5 and MARSHALL claim ':internet' host MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU.

Let me get this right before I make a bunch of changes - Since I am using
MARSHALL as a name for the entire VAXcluster of MUVMS1, MUVMS3, MUVMS4, and
MUVMS5, I should use the following references:

:node.MUVMS1    (no internet tag)
:node.MUVMS3    (no internet tag)
:node.MUVMS4    (no internet tag)
:node.MUVMS5    (no internet tag)
:node.MARSHALL :internet.MUVMS1.BITNET MUVMS3.BITNET MUVMS4.BITNET MUVMS5.BITNET

Correct?

--
Bob Boag                                BITNET:   boag@marshall
Senior Software Systems Analyst         Internet: boag@marshall.wvnet.edu
Marshall University Computer Center     Phone:    (304)696-2624
Huntington, WV 25755-5320               FAX:      (304)696-3601
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:08:48 EST
From:         Gary Sponseller <SPONSELL@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LSVSDATE MODULE no longer works correctly

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:31:41 +0100 Eric Thomas said:
>On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:44:38 EST Gary Sponseller <SPONSELL@AKRONVM> said:
>
>>I just  noticed that  the new  BITEARN NODES file,  created from  the VM
>>UPDNODES program application of the  VERS9301 NODUPD file, no longer has
>>the time/date stamp of the update file... LSVSDATE MODULE is supposed to
>>be doing this. The  NETSERV copy of this file (dated  1989) and even the
>>latest Listserv copy of this file  (date 1991) both fail to re-stamp the
>>new BITEARN NODES file.
>
>The  NETSERV version  cannot work  with CMS  6 and  higher. The  LISTSERV
>version should  work. How  did you  test it?  Did you  make sure  the old
>LSVSDATE wasn't still laying around in the transient area?

Well, I just found the problem with the UPDNODES EXEC...

The call to LSVSDATE must be:  'LSVSDATE' fn ft fm yymmdd hhmmss
and for VERS9301 the hour was 9 (not 09) as the EXEC does not
left-zero-fill that time value.  NETSERV needs to be updated
will a corrected UPDNODES EXEC, line 111 should be:

utm = right(hh,2,0) || mm || ss

I guess the NODUPD file has always been created after 9:59 A.M.   ;-)
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:45:08 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES files

The following 28 servers (10%) use an outdated BITEARN NODES file:

 BRLNCC   VERS9212 (backbone server)
 BRUSPSCE VERS9212
 BYUVM    VERS9212 (backbone server)
 CFRVM    VERS9211
 EMUVM1   VERS9212
 FRORS13  VERS9211
 FRSAC12  VERS9212
 IRMFAO01 VERS9211
 ITESMVF1 VERS9212 (backbone server)
 JHUHYG   VERS9212 (backbone server)
 JPNCUN10 VERS9212
 JPNKEKVM VERS9210
 JPNTYAVM VERS9212
 LMUACAD  VERS9208
 MIAMIU   VERS9211
 NMSUVM1  VERS9212
 NRCVM01  VERS9212
 ONONDAGA VERS9212
 RITVM    VERS9211
 SAMFORD  VERS9212
 SLOAN    VERS9212
 TCUBVM   VERS9212
 UCHDCI01 VERS9104
 UMSSMDVM VERS9108
 UNCCVM   VERS9211
 URIACC   VERS9212
 USACHVM1 VERS9212 (backbone server)
 VILLVM   VERS9211 (backbone server)

The following servers have been unreachable for more than 7 days:

 BRUFMS     EB0UB012   ENLACE     UNAMVM1    VMNMIMC
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:04:23 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistencies in ':internet.' tags
              5 Jan 1993 13:56:00 -0400 from Node Management <NODMGT-L@UGA>

On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:56:00 -0400 Bob Boag <BOAG@MARSHALL.MU.WVNET.EDU>
said:

>:node.MUVMS1    (no internet tag)
>:node.MUVMS3    (no internet tag)
>:node.MUVMS4    (no internet tag)
>:node.MUVMS5    (no internet tag)
>:node.MARSHALL :internet.MUVMS1.BITNET MUVMS3.BITNET MUVMS4.BITNET
>MUVMS5.BITNET

:node.MARSHALL :internet.MUVMS1.BITNET MUVMS3.BITNET MUVMS4.BITNET
                         MUVMS5.BITNET MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU

  Eric
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:21:27 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistencies w/ :internet
              6 Jan 1993 10:50:55 IST from Node Management <NODMGT-L@UGA>

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:50:55 IST Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL> said:

>Try pinging  batata.huji.ac.il and  hujifh.huji.ac.il. They  both return
>132.64.96.2. I tried rereading your  above problem description but don't
>understand why  it applies in  the case  above. My understanding  of the
>:internet tag is  that it should contain the  preferred internet address
>of the NJE host. That is what has been coded.

Your definitions  don't say that  (NJE) BATATA  = HUJIFH, when  they are.
That is the problem.

  Eric
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:29:26 EST
From:         John Hammond <MAILMNT@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      CSEARN BITEARN NODES File Definition
Comments: cc: PKL@ACI.CVUT.CS, PKL@EARN.CVUT.CS

   I'm having problems getting mail to CSEARN and CSPUNI12.  The mail is
returned to my MAILER (VM Network MAILER R2.08 R208004) from SMTP@CSEARN
or SMTP@CSPUNI12 in Netdata format which, of course, it can't handle.
   According to the XMAILER NAMES file I'm using (9213) the tags are:
:xmailer.SMTP@CSEARN BITNET 2
and
:xmailer.SMTP@CSPUNI12 BITNET 2
respectively.
   When I look up CSEARN and CSPUNI12 in BITEARN NODES (9213) the relevant
parts of the tags (excluding contact) are:
:servers1.MAILER@CSEARN(MAIL,PU,M,BSMTP) SMTP@CSEARN(MAIL,PU,M,RFC822)
and
:servers1.MAILER@CSPUNI12(MAIL,PU,M,BSMTP) SMTP@CSPUNI12(MAIL,PU,M,RFC822)
respectively.
   Shouldn't SMTP have an attribute of BSMTP?  Only those two nodes are
are defined as having an SMTP server with the RFC822 attribute.
   I wouldn't have sent this to the list without first communicating with
the contact at the two nodes but with the tables coming out this weekend
I thought it might prevent erroneous information from continuing in the
BITEARN NODES file (assuming I'm right, of course).
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From:         Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject:      15 domains get new mformat tag
Comments: To: domain-l@bitnic.BITNET

:nick..BR   :mailer.SMTPUSER@BRFAPESP   BSMTP  3       :mformat.ND PU
:nick..APPSTATE.EDU   :mailer.MAILER@APPSTATE   BSMTP  3 :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ARIZONA.EDU   :mailer.SMTPUSER@ARIZONA   BSMTP  3  :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ASU.EDU        :mailer.MAILER@ASU        BSMTP  3   :mformat.PU ND
:nick.CITADEL.EDU :mailer.MAILER@CITADEL      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ITHACA.EDU :mailer.MAILER@ITHACA BSMTP 3 :served.YES :mformat.ND PU
:nick..PEPPERDINE.EDU :mailer.MAILER@PEPVAX   BSMTP  3    :mformat.PU ND
:nick..TARLETON.EDU   :mailer.MAILER@TARLETON   BSMTP  3  :mformat.ND PU
:nick..UKANS.EDU    :mailer.SMTPUSER@UKANVAX  BSMTP  3     :mformat.PU ND
:nick..IS           :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick..MX           :mailer.MAILER@TECMTYVM   BSMTP  3    :mformat.PU DD
:nick..NORDU.NET    :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick.VAXFAM.DECUS.ORG :mailer.MAILER@DECUS   BSMTP 3    :mformat.ND PU
:nick..SE           :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick..UUCP         :mailer.MAILER@UUCPGATE   BSMTP  3   :mformat.PU ND

FYI,
Hank
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:50:55 IST
From:         Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistencies w/ :internet

>errors. The  first one is  that if you have  two BITNET machines  (here I
>mean different  physical machines  - not aliases),  XYZ1 and  XYZ2, whose
>users send  and receive mail via  the generic XYZ.EDU domain,  you should
>code ':internet.XYZ.EDU'  in both  entries. This is  not correct.  If you
>code a  ':internet.' tag,  you are defining  a one-to-one  equivalence of
>userids  for the  Internet  and  NJE name  and  telling  servers such  as
>LISTSERV that if  Joe@XYZ.EDU issues a GET command for  a binary file, it
>can be sent via NJE to Joe@XYZ1, for ANY possible value of 'Joe' which is
>not longer than 8 bytes. If you  have a campus mail system which shuffles
>mail  around  and sends  it  to  the  preferred  machine of  your  20,000
>registered users, it  must NOT be defined in the  ':internet.' tag unless
>ALL 20,000  users have an account  on the BITNET system  in question with
>the exact same  name. Servers just can't tell Joe@XYZ.EDU,  who also as a
>JOE@XYZ1 account, from  Jack@XYZ.EDU, who is only  reachable via Internet
>while JACK@XYZ1 doesn't exist or belongs to someone else.

>>>> Both HUJIFH and BATATA claim ':internet' host BATATA.HUJI.AC.IL.

These two machines used to be 2 different machines.  At some point,
the machines were merged and the internet host name became the same.
Try pinging batata.huji.ac.il and hujifh.huji.ac.il.  They both
return 132.64.96.2.   I tried rereading your above problem description
but don't understand why it applies in the case above.  My understanding
of the :internet tag is that it should contain the preferred internet
address of the NJE host.  That is what has been coded.

Hank
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:20:27 EST
From:         Mark Bodenstein <MAB@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inconsistencies in ':internet.' tags

On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:07:39 +0100 Eric Thomas said:
>>>> Both CORNELLC and CORNELL claim ':internet' host CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU.
>>>> Both CORNELLC and CORNELL claim ':internet' host CORNELLC.CCS.CORNELL.EDU.

CORNELL is an alias for CORNELLC.  Is there a problem with this?  Is
there a better way to do it?

Mark Bodenstein  (mab@cornellc; 607-255-8059)
Cornell University Bitnet Techrep
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From:         Hans-Ulrich Giese <U001212@HEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      too much beer ;-)

i'm very sorry to tell you that i have to delay the updating of B.N.
until tomorrow. i just have had my (late) birthday-party and therefor
will not run the process before tomorrow.

-ulrich-
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From:         NIEDERHOFFB@HARTWICK.EDU
Subject:      Re: MIDWINTER--GIORGIO HOTEL, CAR RENTALS, ETC.--HELP

To Sandy and other s wondering about Midwinter transportation:

You won't have luck relying on a taxi to cruise by and pick you up in
Denver.  Check the yellow pages or the hotel desk for cab company phone numbers.
There's also public transportation: the RTD bus system.  (RTD is Regional
Transportation Something-or-other, but Denverites will tell you it stands for
"Reason To Drive".  And Clinton wants one of their old mayors for
transportation secretary.  Actually, it's probably not so bad, but if there's
a big storm, you could get stuck.)
From: karenm@SCILIBX.UCSC.EDU (Karen Mokrzycki)
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Subject: Tape Drive
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:58:58 GMT
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I would like to locate and talk with INNOVACQ users who use the
9-track tape drive to produce tapes for printing serial lists or
for loading records into other systems.  We are a non-UNIX site,
but would appreciate comments from any source about the process,
speed of transferring records, typical problems, etc.  Is there
any way for multiple institutions to share a tape drive (i.e.,
any way to output records to a cassette and then convert it to
9-track on another INNOVATIVE system?  Thanks in advance for
the responses.

Karen Mokrzycki
Head of Acquisitions
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA

karenm@scilibx.ucsc.edu
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From:         EHUTTON@COLGATEU.BITNET
Subject:      III SUPPORT OF NEW SISAC STANDARDS ADOPTED BY FAXON

If there were any replies to Delong's message about III support or migration to
the new SISAC standards adopted by FAXON I missed them.  We are a fully
integrated III library, but I imagine that the impact is going to be the
same.  Is acquisition of EDI translator software @ $1,5000+ the only way
to go in the next year or is III working on a better solution.  Either
way it is going to cost us at a time when budgets are very tight.  This
is something I certainly did not budget for.  I would appreciate advice
from anyone who is more informed.  Thanks.

Emily Hutton, Head of Collection Development
Colgate University Library, Hamilton, NY
(315) 824-7308
EHutton@Colgateu
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From:         Mark Andrews <mandrews@WELL.SF.CA.US>
Subject:      Busy this week at CTB conference

Hi, I'm working some extra hours this week at CTB's January Conference.  I'll
be away from the well until Sunday, 1/17/93.  I'll pick up and answer my mail
in a week.  Mark Andrews.
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From:         AHARE@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      WYSE TERMINALS

We will be automating with III later this spring and would like to
purchase terminals soon.  We will be using DEC5000 with Lantronics
Terminal Server.  Has anyone used the WY-160 or WY-185 (VT100 &
TV925 emulations) or WY-30 (Televideo 925 emulation) with that
setup?  Please respond directly to me.
Ann Hare
Lander University Library
Greenwood, SC  29649
803-229-8365 (voice)
803-229-8816 (fax)
AHARE@CLEMSON.BITNET
AHARE@CLEMSON.CLEMSON.EDU
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From:         CKELLEY@USUHS.BITNET
Subject:      III User Meeting

        In an announcment about the ALA Midwinter Conference from 18 Nov. '92,
the date and place of the III User Meeting was first mentioned:  23-26 Apr. '93
at the Waterfront Hotel in Oakland, CA.

        Now in a reply to Gail Staines' query about the meeting from Ron
Naylor on 6 Jan. '93, I read the meeting will be held 16-19 Apr. '93 at the
Claremont in Berkeley, CA.

        Since hotel and airplane reservations hang in the balance, my question
is twofold:  Which is the correct one?  When was the change made?  I have been
faithfully watching for further developments, but to date I have not seen any
till now.

        Charles Kelley
        Uniformed Services University
        4301 Jones Bridge Road
        Betheda, MD  20814-4799

        CKELLEY@USUHS.BITNET
        CKELLEY@USUHS.UCC.USUHS.NNMC.NAVY.MIL.INTERNET
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From:         Anita Cook <anita@OHIOLINK.OHIOLINK.EDU>
Subject: Innovative User Group Meetings -- Dates, Times and Places

Okay, here is the REAL (and final, I hope!) dates, times, and
locations of the upcoming Innovative User Group meetings.


ALA MIDWINTER

2-5:30 p.m.,  Friday, January 22, Denver Convention Center, room A209



IUG ANNUAL MEETING

1:30 p.m., April 16 - 12 noon, April 19, Claremont Hotel, Oakland, CA


The annual meeting will be a combination of III workshops and user
sessions.  The Program Committee (Co-Chairs are Ann Jones from the
Art Institute of Chicago and Ron Naylor from the University of
Miami), is currently putting the three day agenda together.  We will
be presenting the 1st draft of the agenda at the ALA Midwinter
meeting, and hope to have a "registration packet" mailed out before
the end of February.  If you have ideas about which functional areas
you would most like to have III present a workshop on, please send
those to either Ann, Ron, or myself.

Please contact me if you have questions.


Anita Cook, Chair
Innovative Users Group
anita@ohiolink.edu
614-292-0069

-------------------------------------------------
Ann Jones, Vice-Chair and Program Planning Co-Chair

Innovative Users Group
bm.ail@rlg.bitnet
312-443-3526

Ron Naylor, Program Planning Co-Chair
Innovative Users Group
rnaylor@umiami.bitnet
305-284-4585
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From:         "Ron Nimmer, Wright State University" <RNIMMER@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MIDWINTER--GIORGIO HOTEL, CAR RENTALS, ETC.--HELP

Since I will be out at the Giorgio also, any chance that Gale would extend their
   buses to include the hotel on one of the lines??  Even if only once an hour o
   r
so.

Ron Nimmer
RNimmer@desire.wright.edu
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From:         sdgoldner@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: Labels

        I am interested in the question about III and label generation.
Perhaps others are interested as well and would appreciate seeing the
responses on the list.

Susan Goldner
Univ. of Arkansas at Little Rock Law Library
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From:         V128J8YA@UBVMS.BITNET
Subject:      request for meeting dates

Please accept my appologies for posting this question, if it
has already been asked.  (I have been away on vacation the
last 2 weeks.)   Has a date been set for the Innovative meeting
to be held at Berkely in April>?  Please let me knw.(know).
Thank you.
Gail M. Staines
Coord. of BI
Library Learning Center
NCCC
3111 Saunders Settlement Rd.
Sanborn, NY  14132
e-mail:  v128j8ya@ubvms.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:02:24 EST
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From:         GPO Mail <GPO@MARCIVE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      MARCIVE User Meeting - Call for topics

TO: ALL MARCIVE GPO AND (NON-GPO) CUSTOMERS
FROM: JOAN CHAPA, MGR., GPO SERVICES
RE: USER MEETING ON 1/24/92 AT ALA MIDWINTER

MARCIVE will sponsor a user meeting at the ALA Midwinter Conference in Dallas
on January 24, from 8-10 P.M.  Exact location and agenda will be announced
later.

We are soliciting suggestions for discussion from our customers -- let us
know what YOU want to talk about!  Also, we heartily encourage any user
presentations.  Those of you who attended our user meeting at ALA San
Francisco last summer remember Margaret Mooney's popular presentation.  It
does not have to be a fancy ordeal - if you have a particular experience that
you want to share, please contact me as soon as possible.  We look forward to
hearing from you, and seeing you in Denver!
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