HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: old "American Medical Journal" article info request
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:30:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <aabbasi.711920343@vela>, aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amal Abbasi) writes:
> I am posting this request for a friend of mine who has no net access.
> 
> 
> On page 49 of Allan Asherman's book "Star Trek Interview Book"
> Deforest Kelley makes reference to a layout done on him in "The
> American Medical Journal".

Sorry, but there ain't no such publication.  there's JAMA, the Journal
of American Medicine, and The New England Journal of Medicine, and about
a googol of other journals for various specialties (would you like to
know what's in the current issue of _Endoscopy_Today_?)  If you know 
which publication it is, you might visit your local university library.
Most of them take at least JAMA and NEJoM, and I'm sure they're indexed.

> 
> Does anyone have this article?  If so, could you please e-mail me
> all the information you have about it, including the title, date,
> author, and page number?
> 
> Thank you!
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Amal A. Abbasi                 |  "Let's make sure that history
> Oakland University             |   never forgets the name Enterprise."
> aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu   |         -- Captain Jean Luc Picard
> aabbasi@argo.acs.oakland.edu   |            Yesterday's Enterprise
-- 

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               Certified Math Geek and Grammarian
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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: How old is the net? (Was: Re: Another temporary farewell...)
Keywords: th-th-th-th-that's all, folks...
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:43:24 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <7852@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
>Just for curiosity's sake, how long have the Star Trek groups
>been around on the net?  How long has the net itself been around?
>Who out there has read the group the longest???

I think that the news software which is the backbone of USENET was first
developed in 1978/79 at Duke/UNC (if I remember correctly).  I think that
the precursor to rec.arts.startrek, net.startrek, was created in early 1982,
making it (just over) ten years old.

Roger Noe (noe@cs.uiuc.ecu) has claimed that he's read the group since its
inception, so he'd be a strong contender. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Beauty... survives."
				- James T. Kirk, "That Which Survives"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:24:35 GMT

In article <mumble> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:

>I never saw "Royale" before last night.  Now I'm sorry I did.
>It is the worst Next Generation episode of all time.

Not the absolute worst, but certainly not one of the best.  I saw it
again a few weeks ago and realized what its main problem was; the
weirdness of the situation was not played up correctly and it left the
entire episode very flat.

Now imagine if someone like David Lynch had directed the episode...
strange camera angles, moody music, unusual lighting effects - it'd be
a heckufalot better episode!

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Gimme Novels!!!!
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:27:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Windsor!

[wam] I'll be charitable and say that I didn't care for "How Much for Just
      the Planet?".
Here I agree with you ... There is only =one= moment I somehow liked: At the
end, when Kirk says: "Someone give the captain a cookie!" (to throw it at
Spock). But that's not enough for a novel.

[wam] However, Ford's *other* Trek novel, "The Final Reflection", is
      excellent.  Kirk, Spock, and McCoy appear for a *very* short time; the
      rest is from the point of view of a Klingon captain.
I like to read other viewpoints, but not to this extent! If I read a STAR-
TREK-novel, then I want our people to be there! Many of the novels fail in
this point. They may even be very interesting (I'm up to 'The Inherited' now)
and I may even like them. But they are no STAR-TREK-novels without our crew!
And this one, I found boring, just like it was some hundred years ago on
earth, nothing really surprising or new.

Oyori - Sem [from =still= hot Northern Germany and back from holiday]
From: Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: How old is the net?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:19:19 EDT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Tampa, FL)

In article <1992Jul21.174324.10855@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
> In <7852@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> ns@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
>>Just for curiosity's sake, how long have the Star Trek groups
>>been around on the net?  How long has the net itself been around?
>>Who out there has read the group the longest???
> 
> I think that the news software which is the backbone of USENET was first
> developed in 1978/79 at Duke/UNC (if I remember correctly).  I think that
> the precursor to rec.arts.startrek, net.startrek, was created in early 1982,
> making it (just over) ten years old.
> 
> Roger Noe (noe@cs.uiuc.ecu) has claimed that he's read the group since its
> inception, so he'd be a strong contender. :-)


So, out of more idle curiosity, who actually created net.startrek?  (Who
sent the newgroup message, or whatever the equivalent was?)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: In Search Of ST Decals/etc...
Organization: Clark University
Date: 28 JUL 92 02:57:14 GMT

In a previous article, Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:
>Does someone have an address of a co. that sells ST autowindow decals, T's,etc.
>Any help appreciated. Thanx.
> 
>Michael B. Smith
>mbs116@psuvm.psu.edu
>DoD# 1428

Give StarLand a call.  They're in Denver.  Have a decent catalog of just about 
everything (T's, stickers, posters, videos, etc) revolving around Trek and 
other SF.  1-800-733-8735.

Have fun.

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From: kfree@arghouse.UUCP (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow--the Novel
Keywords: time's arrow time
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:22:14 GMT
Organization: The Listening Post

cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole) writes:

> markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby) writes:
> 
> >It's just an interesting coincidence, but Random House will be publishing
> >a book in November by Martin Amis titled "Time's Arrow."
> 
> >For those of you who wondered about the significance of TNG's title,
> >the catalog has this to say about *its* Time's Arrow:
> 
> >"...a novel that not only rethinks history but drastically revises our
> >notion of time itself....[Doctor Tod Friendly] races backward toward
> >the one appalling moment in modern history when things make sense only if
> >their usual order is reversed."
> 
> There has been a "Time's Arrows" out for years.  It details the role
> that time plays in physics.  For good measure, some specualtion on time
> travel is thrown in as well.
> 
> Robert Cole

Talk about three disparate books! "Tod" is German for death, btw.

---
If people did not sometimes do silly things,
nothing intelligent would ever get done. -Wittgenstein
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From: flaufer@flc.rni.sub.org (Felix Laufer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: NCC1-1701A model with lights & sound?
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:16:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Felix Laufer Chemistries

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>I recently saw a model kit of the NCC1-1701A that includes lights and
>sound. If anyone has built this one, I'd appreciate hearing what you
>think of the quality of the effects. Are the sounds something close the
>the "real" thing, or just random beeps?

I built such a model and in my opinion the SOUNDS are Great.
Real Digisounds (Phaser & Photorp).

The lights are not very interesting.

Felix


-- 

bortaS blr jablu'Dl'reH QaQqu' nay'


Revenge is a dish which is best served cold - klingon proverb
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From: Michael_Weber@k.maus.de (Michael Weber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek in Germany
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 12:29:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Hallo eric,

eg>Does anyone know if they are showing star trek in Germany?
eg>If so, the station and channel location would be appreciated...

Yes. Raumschiff Enterprise, das naechste Jahrhundert
On Friday, Channel 2 (called ZDF), at pm 04:05 to pm 05:00.

Gruss, MIKE

              "Heute ohne dummen Spruch!" - M. Weber
Organization: Senior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:25:53 -0400 
From: Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Final Reflection (was HELP


     If you want ST novels from a different point of view, try the Diane Carey
books "Dreadnought!" and "Battlestations!" (exclamation points actually part
of the titles). Anyway, they are different in that they're written in first
person, directly from the point of view of ht author's main character (Lt, then
Lt Cmdr Piper). The main ST characters actually come out kind of secondary
(more so in the first book than the second) as the books focus on the author's
own characters.

                                                   -Robb Timlin
                                                    rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: The Final Reflection (was HELP: Gimme Novels!!!!)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:44:42 GMT

>[wam] However, Ford's *other* Trek novel, "The Final Reflection", is
>      excellent.  Kirk, Spock, and McCoy appear for a *very* short time; the
>      rest is from the point of view of a Klingon captain.

In article <A10943@HB.maus.de> Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher) writes:
>I like to read other viewpoints, but not to this extent! If I read a STAR-
>TREK-novel, then I want our people to be there! Many of the novels fail in
>this point. They may even be very interesting (I'm up to 'The Inherited' now)
>and I may even like them. But they are no STAR-TREK-novels without our crew!
>And this one, I found boring, just like it was some hundred years ago on
>earth, nothing really surprising or new.

Well, I thought it was new in that we have the entire novel from the
Klingon's point of view; we see (one author's) ideas about how the
Klingon culture and the Klingon mind operates.

We almost *always* see Kirk and Co., or Picard and Co., solving
problems.  Why not see Captain Krenn of the Klingons or
(hypothetically) Captain Thalor of the Federation?  We have no basis
to work from, so we can't anticipate what the Captain and ship will
do.  With Picard and with Kirk, we have scores of hours of information
about them -- things are more obvious with them.

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: babin@ifthen.enet.dec.com (Ken Babin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Dumb Question
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:37:49 GMT
Reply-To: babin@ifthen.enet.dec.com (Ken Babin)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Do you mean Locutus?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: tarrall@horton.Colorado.EDU (The Admiral, actually)
Subject: Re: (now we know sandra's secret)
Organization: _USS Christopher Pike_, NCC-1779-A
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:20:16 GMT

rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

kennedy_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes...
>>>I was tempted to leave Picard out all together, I mean what has he got going
>>>for him???? It's not like he looks good anything...no hair...and a rather dry
>>>personallity (IMHO)...:-)

sandra guzdek replies...
>>i'll tell ya:  a great bod, a sexy voice, and all that POWER.  (and he's
>>cute, TOO!!!) :)

Michael Rawdon follows this up with...
>As I've said before, all this attention paid to him by female Trek fans
>probably has the male Trekkies "tearing their hair out". :-)

Nah.  I tear my hair out for other reasons, mostly having to do with
physics professors.

-- 
-- The Admiral, logged in through Loqutus at tarrall@horton.colorado.edu
------------------- USS Christopher Pike, NCC-1779-A -------------------
"He's no better than Shatner!  He's no better than Shatner!!!"
  -- Bill Clinton, on the news that Leonard Nimoy had endorsed Sen. Tsongas
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Squire of Gothos = Q?
Keywords: Are they related?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:22:57 GMT


I don't know if this is the right newgroup anymore OR if this subject
has already made the rounds, but:

A friend and I watched the Squire of Gothos (old Trek) this last weekend.
She and I came up with the same idea.  Is Trelayne, the Squire of
Gothos, related in some way to Q and that race?  The hearing was quite
the same, but Q would be more like an adult version (remembering that
Trelayne was just a "child").  Anyway, my friend cries "rip-off!"

Comments?  Facts?

thanks,
margaret@cs.arizona.edu
From: grd4016@husky1.stmarys.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Captain Christopher Pike Actor?
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:00:15 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada

Could anyone please tell me the name of the actor who played
Captain Christopher Pike on the orignal pilot for Star Trek.
Thanks in Advance, Susan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:45:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.163301.6530@bcrka451.bnr.ca> jimdean@bnr.ca writes:
>
>bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
>> 
>> I never saw "Royale" before last night.  Now I'm sorry I did.
>> It is the worst Next Generation episode of all time.
> 
>Hey! I *liked* "The Royale" and still do even almost 5 years later,
>and I don't care who knows it. :-)
>

  Yeah, I thought it was ok, too.  It is a rather _special_ episode, but
  I found it amusing.  The story was a bit cheezy - but somehow it reminded
  me of some of the TOS episodes.  The feeling of it, you know...  Well,
  just my IOU's worth.

  BTW, I thought "Up the Long Ladder" was loads of fun.  The story wasn't
  so brilliant at all, but the humor was there and it made it for me
  very enjoyable.  Nothing like a cup of coffee after the day's work, sit
  back, and watch UtLL for the umpteenth time ;)))
  "I don't suppose security is much of a problem for ya..."
		- Danilo O'dell (sp?)	in "Up the Long Ladder"

	- Miks

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From: Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Betazed eyes. PBS/NBC coverage
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:18:18 EDT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Tampa, FL)

In article <1992Jul20.170520.1922@mtu.edu>, destill@mtu.edu (DAVID E. STILL) writes:
> rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee) writes:
>>
>>Hmmm. This got me thinking. While I was watching the
>>PBS/NBC coverage of the Democratic Convention, I noticed
>>how dark Jim Lerher's eyes are. I think he's one of them!
>>
> Personally, I've always thought that Bush and Quayle were genetically defect-
> ive Ferengi. ;-}

Nah.  Quayle's a deformed Paklid.  {{:-)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:06:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.061620.28605@crash.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
>Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
>Date: 19 Jul 92 06:16:20 GMT

>I wasn't going to get in this but I just can't resist.

>                             1. Troi
>                             2. Ro
>                             3. Bev
>                             4. Giunun (sp)
>                             5. Mrs. Troi
>                             6. Tasha

>Thats my opinion.

>                                       Randy


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   ha! You just like Troi for her hooters (TM).  (Bwhhahahahahahaha)
(honk, honk)
oh yeah; ro's a dog. i'm sure of it; obvious canine anscestry.

Hal
From: DFE100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: re:Starfleet Doctors
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:01:19 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I'm borrowing a friend's account so if you are going to respond to this
post please do it to:  tracy@hekla.pnge.psu.edu.

In article <1992Jul26.200101.11901@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot) writes:
>Well, Bev, Bones, Troi and Pulaski have all been explicitly mentioned as being
>*Lt. Cmdr.s*.  This is a comiisioned rank, and I assume that they would have
>to go to the academy for that.

Actually, Sean...Crusher and Pulaski are Commanders.

>There has been nothing in either series that has shown comissioned officers
>that have not gone to SFA, so until an episode says otherwise, I think we
>have to assume that all of them went through the Academy.

>Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu

Actually, Sean...there has been evidence that at least Crusher and Troi
have attended Starfleet Academy.  In the recent episode _Conundrum_, when
the crew calls information about themselves up on the computer, a r.a.s.
reader with a big screen TV reported that Bev's personnel file contained
the following information:

                  Crusher, Beverly C., M.D.
                  Birthdate:                    13 October 2324
                  Parents:                      Paul and Isabel Howard
                  Place of Birth:               Copernicus City, Luna
                  Entered Academy:              2342
                  Graduated Academy:            2350
                  Offspring:                    Wesley A. Crusher

Since Bev took 8 years to graduate, one would assume that her medical
training was obtained through Starfleet.

Deanna's personnel file read:

                  Troi, Lt. Commander Deanna
                  Birthdate:                    29 March 2336
                  Parents:                      Alex and Lwaxana Troi
                  Place of Birth:               Betazed
                  Entered Academy:              2355
                  Graduated Academy:            2359

_______________________________________________________________________

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Petroleum & Natural Gas Engineering                 Pro-Woman,
The Pennsylvania State University                   Pro-CHOICE!!!!!
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hgschmie@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Schmiedehausen (RRZE - Hiwi))
Subject: Deep Space Nine?
Summary: What is Deep Space Nine?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:57:11 GMT

Howdy!

In the Star Trek Newsgroups, there is a frequent talk about 'Deep Space Nine'?
What is this? Is this a new TV Show, which is also set in the StarTrek Universe?
(Over here in germany, we're at the a** of the world, we're in the middle
of 3rd saison ST:TNG ==:( ) 

Could you please tell me more about Deep Space Nine? (Where is it set, in 
which time frame (TOS or TNG) etc. etc.

Please respond via Mail, because I don't read the group very frequently

	Thanks & Ciao
		Henning

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