From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Mormonism is not Christian should be the title, not Mormons.
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:38:17 GMT

In article <29GN02Ul26vD01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (TONY ROSE) writes:
>
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>*                       MORMONISM NOT CHRISTIAN                       *
>*                                                                     *
>* It is possible to prove that the LDS church is not Christian by     *
>* using some of it's own basic assumptions.  Let me put it this way,  *
>* simply stating these assumptions as Mormons believe them:           *
>*        1. Christian churches are apostate.                          *
>*        2. But the LDS church is Christian.                          *
>*        3. Therefore the LDS church is apostate.                     *
>*                                                                     *
>* But that conclusion is not acceptable to Mormons, so let's try      *
>* again:                                                              *
>*        1. Christian churches are apostate.                          *
>*        2. But the LDS church is not apostate.                       *
>*        3. Therefore the LDS church is not Chrisitan.                *
>*                                                                     *
>* But Mormons don't accept this conclusion either. What is the        *
>* problem? Very simply, it is found in Mormonism's basic assumptions. *
>* Mormonism assumes that the LDS church is Christian, while at the    *
>* same time assuming that Christianity is apostate. The only way out  *
>* of this dilemma is for Mormonism to either discard the untenable    *
>* theory of a total apostacy, or cease to claim to be Christian.      *
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	let's see.

  Chrisidom today (1823, 1992) is composed on multiple groups or sects
  each claiming to be "the church of Christ".

  Each group which is now identifiedable with any other group, is
  for the purposes of _this_ discussion a seperate "Church"

  If the set of "Churchs" which are called "Christian" comprised the
  entire set, then there is a unity of faith?

  Assume that these groups of "Church"s are distinct and seperate,
  then these churchs have not yet come to a unity of faith.

  Since these churchs teach a doctrine seperate from that of the church
  of the apostles, then the prophecey of the apostasy is true.

  We can not of ourselves restore the "truth", but we must await the
  restoration of all things, spoken of in scripture.

  [Alt Voice]. We can restore thing as they were in scripture.

  [First Voice] We must await the enduement of power from above.


  << This is a short paraphrase of a sermon given by a preacher
  from the early 1800's  name is Alexander Campbell and his cohort
  Sidney Rigdon.  These two (along with Campbell's father) founded
  what is now known as the Church of Christ.  (This is before the
  schism as to whether or not organ music/piano music is allowed in
  services)

     As far as I can tell, the Churchs of Christ are still waiting
  on a restoration.  

  For the LDS and LDs-cognizant, you will proably understand why the
  Church of Christ aren't too sympathic to the LDS.

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  LDS believe in a general Apostsy and that the Gosple in it's purity
  was restored. Mormons accept that there are many good and believing
  individuals in the world. That God accomplishes his goals with what
  ever people are available, and that not all of 'em are LDS.


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         Kermit Tensmeyer                         | Intergraph Corporation
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