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From: dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean R Money)
Subject: TMBG at CMU
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 04:02:00 GMT

Following Amy Lefkowitz's suggestion, a friend and I drove from Columbus
to Pittsburgh to catch They Might Be Giants at Carnegie-Mellon's Spring
Carnival. The carnival itself was pretty cool, as was the Pitt-CMU area,
but the concert was a mess (at first, at least).

The concert was intended to be an outdoor show, but was moved into CMU's
gym (a tiny place, holding 4-5,000) for fear of rain (never came; great
weather outside, in fact). Everyone scurried to the gym, and each CMU
student was allowed one guest. Well, this sent out-of-towners like me
scurrying around, buddying up to strangers in line-"excuse me, are you
a CMU student and could you 'sponsor' me?" Maybe not surprisingly, most
of the people in line were not CMU students (there were a lot of Pitt
students there). Well, we finally found a couple of students alone, and
managed to squeeze in (standing room only). Anyway...

The sound wasn't great, but you get what you paid for (admission was free ;).
The show was good, if not a little short (about 1:15). They played a good
number of songs from _Flood_, as well as the new album, _Apollo 18_. Let's
see, the songs I remember them playing are:

	from _They Might Be Giants_:
		"Don't Let's Start"
		"Nothing's Gonna Change My Clothes"
		"Boat of Car"

	from _Lincoln_:
		"Ana Ng"
		"Lie Still, Little Bottle"
		"Purple Toupee"
		"Shoehorn with Teeth"
		"Kiss Me, Son of God"

	from _Flood_:
		"Birdhouse in your Soul"
		"Lucky Ball & Chain"
		"Istanbul (not Constantinople)"
		"Your Racist Friend"
		"Particle Man"
		"Twisting"
		"Someone Keeps Moving my Chair"
		"Whistling in the Dark"

	from _Apollo 18_:
		"Dig my Grave"
		"I Palindrome I"
		"She's Actual Size"
		"Mammal"
		"The Statue Got Me High"
		"Narrow your Eyes"
		"Space Suit"

They also played a cover of some song when the guitar-playing TMBG guy's
guitar sound went out. It was pretty good.

Anyway, it was a good show, definitely worth catching. And I think I've
got a new appreciation of songs on the new album (I was having trouble
getting into the new songs). I can't get "She's Actual Size" out of my
head now.

Catch the tour if you can. And thanks for the tip, Amy. :)

Dean.
From: mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Gothic Music, Sisters... Alt.Gothic.
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:39:14 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <codrus.702863029@glia> codrus@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Ian McCloghrie) writes:

>In <mcdonghj.702809820@unix2.tcd.ie> mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:

>>Sisters, Neph, Bauhaus etc..
>>Please remember there is a newsgroup specially for these bands.

>	There is??? <excited exploration of trying to add newsgroup>.
>Feh.  They don't carry it.
CU there huh??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-John Mc Donagh.                   ~~                         {Nascent Virion}
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~                        "In Fear of Fear"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Demons have crippled this race, Inventors of narrow moality.
 I am pleased with my conduct, for someone so insane.."             --Valor
"The next performance is a comedy, Beware of the soothsayers sop
 Untangle the pearls, Don't hinder the pages, Beat the reaper to the crop."
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hasuf@cheshire.oxy.edu (The Velvet Blur)
Subject: James mailing catalog
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA  90041
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:02:31 GMT



Hey all. One of my friends heard of a place where you can order 
James stuff. She said that they lived off of money they got
from selling stuff like James shirts, James key chains,
James-flavored condoms and the like before they got
really popular. (I guess that means before they released
"Sit Down" and "Come Home".)

Anyway, does anyone know of such a location and it's address?

Thanks...

--hasuf@oxy.edu
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Informationless postings
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:05:27 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <92097.152955U36300@uicvm.uic.edu> U36300@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Well, consider this a thread for those too lazy to use excessive vowels
>in alt.whine.

ok.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: more boston bands
Keywords: pingpong
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Billerica, MA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: heretix.east.sun.com

ok ok so i left out some other boston bands, give me a break!!

just looking to get some of the boston bands i like that don't get
the flipping press they should. yes yes i know the pixies are from 
boston. more bands to check out====>

THE MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES
THINKTREE
DOGZILLA
GANG GREEN
MISSION OF BURMA

as i said before

HERETIX
O-POSTIVE
TRIBE

just go and buy the cd's, let the music do the talking!!

also, i **still** think the seattle sound sucks!! 

john            "my life is a big blur of fire and ice" 
oneil
From: bt195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chris Paul Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: nirvana
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:14:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.181413.2146
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


I just don't understand WHY ( IF the gossip is true(.)
why they won't play the very song that mede them famous????
Also, along the same lines, Cobain was quoted in Rollong Stone this month as saying 
something to the effect that he did do NOT expect to get this big, and
that he did NOT WANT to get this big...  WHY does Nirvana want to stay
waway from FAME??? I just don't understand....

   Oh, well... Whatever... NEVERMIND.
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From: hauserma@osprey.cahs.colostate.edu (Jake Hauserman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.enya,aus.music,ba.music,rec.humor,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: POLL
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:04:47 GMT
Organization: Applied Human Sciences, Colorado State University, Fort Collins CO

In article <8x9t77q@rpi.edu> lunind@jec325.its.rpi.edu (Daniel B. Luning) writes:
>
>Hello, since Weird Al just released a new album, I would 
>like to do a Weird Al poll.
>
>I would like your ratings of his top songs(upto 10 songs).
>Also I would like you to rate his albums.
>
>In a few weeks, I'll be happy to send the results to those who 
>paticipate in the poll and will also post them.
>
>To take part in this poll, please e-mail me at 
>lunind@rpi.edu
>
>Every vote counts only once per person,but no matter
>how small of a list you send, it WILL be counted.
> 
>THANX FOR YOUR TIME
>			DAN

Who is "Weird Al" ???  and what does he have to do with Enya ?????

Study without reflection is a waste of time;|Jake Hauserman
Reflection without study is dangerous.      |Colorado State University
                  - Confucius               |Fort Collins Co.
                                            |hauserma@osprey.cahs.colostate.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 21:11:59 EDT
From: <WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: new jane's addiction?

has anyone heard of perry ferril joining a new band?
is it true or a viscious rumor?
TTHHEE GGOOOOBB-c/o will
wkm101@psuvm
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From: mbutler@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (M. COOPER / B. McQUAID)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Musical Intelligence (Was: Alternative radio stations)
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:57:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Apr7.145106.4366@Csli.Stanford.EDU> glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:
-" Milo:
-" >-" >so as an art form, it's rubbish, with realtion to the character of 
-" >-" >the artist.
-" 
-" Me:
-" >-"Along with Sarah Vaughn's "Stormy Weather," Miles Davis' "'Round Midnight,"
-" >-" and Alfred Brendel's recording of Mozart's G minor piano concerto?
-" >-" Those are also "rubbish, with relation to the character of the artist?"
-" 
-" Milo:
-" >	Yes, because they weren't the original composers of the
-" >songs, and therefore, the songs are not genuine emotional state-
-" >ments. 
-" 
-" Fascinating.  Your principles are so firmly held that you're willing to write
-" off all but a tiny slice of the history of music.  Even the stubbornest
-" rap-isn't-music undergrad usual begins to waver here.
-" 
	What "all but"?  You gave me three examples.  I recognize
and appreciate the above artists for their contributions.  I'm not
going to blithely praise them, though.

-" Out of curiosity, Milo, have you listened to much by Sarah Vaughn?  I really
-" think it would be a pity if you understood her to be inferior to, say, the
-" Cocteau Twins based only on your patented a priori approach to music.
-" 
-" -- Clay

	I've heard music by Sarah Vaughn, yes.  Not a lot, but like
I said, I recognize her submissions as a Jazz vocalist.  Am I
somehow not allowed to prefer Elizabeth Fraser over her?

					- MILO D. COOPER  '92
					-Negro Extraordinaire
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From: jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Trip Shakespeare?
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:41:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sdk9rINNacv
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I was wondering if anyone can tell me what this band sounds like.
I have seen several articles about them but nothing about what they
sound like.

thanks
jbh
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: thoreau@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jonathan Cohen)
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls tour?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 07:58:25 GMT

The release of the new Indigo Girls CD "Rites of Passage"/"Passage of Rites" 
has been pushed back until May 12.  They are kicking off their tour on May 22
(my birthday :-} ) in Atlanta.  Tour dates, for the most part, have been
announced through the end of June I think when they will be in Chicago.
So far, they have planned the East coast leg of the tour only.

I would expect them to hit the West Coast but dates and places are unknown as 
of now.  call Epic Records at 1-800-554-EPIC for a recorded message about the
new album.  it includes some cuts but the sound quality is wretched.



be patient.  that's all we can do,


Mike
-- 
******************************	"This earth was made a common treasury
*     Michael Cohen	     *	 For everyone to share
*Thoreau@leland.stanford.edu *	 All things in common
******************************	 All people one" --Billy Bragg
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 21:03:50 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails

In article <92101.202859JLP118@psuvm.psu.edu>, Joanna Pinola
<JLP118@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>Does anyone know anything about the new NIN album if it does in fact exist?
>
>Ditto goes for new Ministry.

From what I've read NIN wasn't planning to come out with an album until
sometime this fall.  The newest thing I've seen in the stores was the
Maxi-single for _head like a hole_, and cheap too.  $5.99

Ministry was supposed to be out last month, but it just faded into
obscurity...

--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
Suaron
From: woj@romulus.rutgers.edu (voy toy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: boston bands
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:18:28 GMT
Organization: the wonderful world of muzak

cutter@silver.lcs.mit.edu (real deep cool) writes:
>Give your memories a nasty glare.  Kristen and Tanya both grew up in
>RI, and their families are both there.  

okay okay. mea culpa. i will castrate my memory as a penance.

i figured out why i thought this. two friends of mine from college were from
providence and went to high school with kristen and tanya. some time later,
someone on the 4ad list asked where they were from. i replied providence. and
then someone (don't recall who) reprimanded me saying that they were from 
boston. 

so it's not my fault! nyah! 
-- 
woj - ich bin schwarz und weiss oder weiss und schwarz - with a kiss...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: boston bands
From: winer@husc8.harvard.edu (Adam Winer)
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:31:04 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <22656@dog.ee.lbl.gov> watts@csa2.lbl.gov writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.223429.7945@cs.uri.edu>, reynhout@cs.uri.edu writes...
>>>watts@csa2.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS) writes:
>>>>I'm not mentioning the ones everyone probably knows about, like the Pixies
>>>>and Throwing Muses.
>> 
>>   Throwing Muses are most definitely *NOT* from Boston.  Not even from 
>>Massachusetts.  None of them.  Ever.
>
>I don't know where you're getting your information from, but here's where I get
>mine from:
>
>When the first album came out, import only on the 4AD label, WFNX (the Boston
>alternative station) made a big deal out of the fact that they were the first
>American band on that label.  Why?  Because they were from Boston.  This is
>first-hand information, since I was a faithful listener of WFNX at the time.
>
I'm confused on this point.  I have read that they are from Providence
(where they've played shows under the name Blowing Fuses).  However,
when in a record store in Cambridge, I overheard someone saying that
she went to school with all the members of the band.  (I don't know
if she means the original four, the recent four, or all five)
Does anyone know the real story?  The Trouser Press may say "
Boston-based" but where are they originally from, and do they still
live here?

Adam


-- 
Adam Winer		| The number you have reached is imaginary.
WINER@HARVARD.EDU	| Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and
                        | try again.
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Weird Al does Nirvana
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:18:54 GMT

From article <29E65A5B.25474@ics.uci.edu>, by bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald):
> In article <kuca80INN8j6@spim.mips.com> lkvarda@mips.com (Lisa Kvarda) writes:
>>
>>Anyone heard Weird Al's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit?
> 
>    Well, it had to happen.
>    I heard it.  It was hilarious the first time.  funny the second, and
>     a third time makes me say "Isn't this going to get old VERY quick?"
> 

Yer not supposed to buy the record; just watch the video.  Weird Al's
speciality is disposability.

The video is hilarious.  Weird Al does the 'Big-Wide Chorus Sound'
guitar solo by garging a glass of water; then the crowd does the
'Big-Wide Fuzz Sound' solo with kazoos.  The stage divers get ripped
limb from limb.  A good send up.

But I liked (still like) the original video.  The mosh pit in slow
motion shots had a kind of Robert Longo feel.  It's too bad that MTV's
motto is 'anything worth doing is worth doing until theres nothing
left but a bloody rotting corpse.'

--
Kent Williams         | "Do you see your cerebellum as a lightbulb or a cog? I
williams@cs.uiowa.edu | saw mine as gristle so I fed it to the dog. But it 
Quote: Bevis Frond    | taste so bad, that she left it in the bowl ..."
From: James.R.Fries@dartmouth.edu (James R. Fries)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Immaculate Fools
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:40:38 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Does anybody have a discography for The Immaculate Fools?  They
released 'Another Man's World' in 1989 or 1990 (CBS Records).  They
have at least one other album.  

Their songs 'Sad' and 'Falling Apart Together', among others on
'Another Man's World', are *beautiful*.  Their song, 'Immaculate
Fools', is on a previous (unknown to me) album.  Thanks! 

James R. Fries@Dartmouth.edu
From: es1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Mitchell Snider)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Enter The Sisters
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:56:14 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have an Enter The Sisters (Black October) cd... It's about an hour
long and it's really good. It says it was made in France and
it was supposedly a limited edition of 500. The guy at the store I
bought it at told me it was more like 1000 but I have no idea where he
got his info. Anyway, I like it a lot. The cover of Gimme Shelter is
excellent.

-Eric Snider
es1o@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: mbutler@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (M. COOPER / B. McQUAID)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Musical Intelligence (Was: Alternative radio stations)
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:25:26 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Apr1.163130.13529@Csli.Stanford.EDU> glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:
-" mbutler@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (M. COOPER / B. McQUAID) writes:
-" 
-" >	"When a Man Loves a Woman" isn't his [Michael Bolton's] song, 
-" >so as an art form, it's rubbish, with realtion to the character of 
-" >the artist.
-" 
-" Along with Sarah Vaughn's "Stormy Weather," Miles Davis' "'Round Midnight,"
-" and Alfred Brendel's recording of Mozart's G minor piano concerto?
-" Those are also "rubbish, with relation to the character of the artist?"
-" 
	Yes, because they weren't the original composers of the
songs, and therefore, the songs are not genuine emotional state-
ments.  Remakes are bullshit, as far as integrity.  That doesn't
mean that they're no good, but it does mean that they are impure
statements, and as such cannot ever represent any pinnacle of
musical talent or genius, unless you believe that music is not
a product of emotion, which I don't.

-" >There are LOTS of people who don't realize the above defintion.
-" 
-" All you claimed was that "musical intelligence" required recognition of
-" the expression of emotion in performance.

	And then I added, "with relation to the character of the
artist."  Meaning, no two individuals are alike, and therfore no two
individuals should ever be able to create music that, for example,
sounds as close to the other's as a remake does to an original.

-"					    I'm saying that I can't think
-" of *anyone* who doesn't think of music in that way.  I'm also saying 
-" that you've provided no intelligible statement of your beliefs in the
-" superiority of some music over others and in the debased understanding
-" of music suffered by those of low musical IQ.
-" 
-" -- Clay

	Congratulations, you're more philanthropic than I.  Given
that there exists music which is not based on feeling, but instead
on technical ability or danceability or base enervation and shock
value, and that many people gravitate towards this music for just
those reasons, I'd have to say that not everything on CD is a pro-
duct of what I call musical intelligence.
	I think I've made myself clear enough; I've been less lucid
in the past and people have had no trouble understanding what I
mean.  Top-40 music is well-liked, worldwide.

					- MILO D. COOPER  '92
					-Negro Extraordinaire
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: odwak@fraser.sfu.ca (Hartley Odwak)
Subject: Re: The Charlatans/Charlatans U.K.  HELP!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:59:51 GMT

Yep - The Charlatans and the Charlatans U.K. are the same band.  There
was a band called The Charalatans from North America, so the British
band had to add the "U.K." to distinguish themselves, and for legal
reasons.

The Beat had to do the same thing with their N.A. releases - i.e. The
English Beat (an N.A. band called The Beat existed at the time...)

Hartley


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rwyatt@niji.claremont.edu (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Re: re: new jane's addiction
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:55:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.165029.9710@ncsu.edu> navarro@obvious.ncsu.edu  
(dave) writes:
> ** has anyone heard of perry ferril joining a new band?
> ** is it true or a viscious rumor?
> 
> last i heard,
> perry farrell is forming a new band called 'porno for pyros' (?)
> 
> peace,
> 
> dave

Perry's new band, Porno for Pyros, recently played their first gig in  
LA...  Thank God I wasn't there to see it !!!!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lisakd@bnr.ca (Darko Lisak)
Subject: Les Negresses Vertes 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:30:42 GMT

Hello,

   Does anyone have any information about the new album from Les Negresses Vertes?
What is it called?  I heard one of the songs briefly on a Quebec radio station.  I think it was
called "Les Familles Heureuses."  And does anyone know if they have made any other records
other than "MLAH"?  I think these guys are probably the best that come from France.  Actually,
France has quite a few good groups.  Indochine, Les Ritas Mitsouko, and the one that has the
new CD called "King of the Bongo" (I can't believe I forgot their name, I even have this CD!!).

DL
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Lionel Richie Rules All!!!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:06:21 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

dombart@midget.saar.sub.org (John Dombart) writes:
>Ghee, that's interesting ! What the hell is rec.music.phish about ?

A bunch of navel-staring hyperweenies who seem to be attempting to 
transform a reasonably jammy bar band [the acceptable face of modern
fuzak for the garage band 90s] into a religious cult. The Dead for kids
with some credit hours in engineering who're too self-conscious to hang
out with old geezers at dead shows and not self-conscious enough to be
raving Randroid Rush fanatics. Ah....people who like a good band who're
edging over the tiny little chalk line into the "another aberration of
late capitalism" phase of fandom.

Tell you what - their most recent disc is on Electra - "Picture of 
Nectar". Pick it up, and give it an *honest* listen. Perhaps the sky
will cleave and the heavens will open, or perhaps you'll hear the old
L.A. express cum the Aquarium Rescue Unit backing Peter Wolf doing
tonguetwister solipsist lyrics. But wait - you really *do* have to 
hear them live [echoes of the Dead]: about a hundred times, as I understand
it.

--
I am so lonely for the twentieth century,/for the deeply felt, obscene
graffiti/of armed men and the beautiful bridges/that make them so small and
carry them/into the hearts of cities written like words/across nothing,/the
dense void history became in my beautiful century/gtaylor/608-828-3385