From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: The MOW Platform (was Re: NOTICE - Details...)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.014804.21044@watson.ibm.com>, jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
> >  Are you on drugs? Try again.
> 
> ohhh please, sir, may i have another?

  It's in suppository form. Bend over. And fetch me the
gag; your screaming is bothering me again.

> >  Look dearie, some of us with a conscience want to know *why*
> >we are doing something -- especially if it is in a political
> >context.
> 
> bizarre response, mike, telling me that i'm not acting out
> of good conscience.  tell me, are you treating headaches
> with DMSO and rubbing alcohol?

  If you'd work on your reading comprehension, you'd realize that
I didn't address you personally.

> >If you haven't noticed, those sheer numbers are going
> >to be defined as supporting said platform.
> 
> who will define everyone marching as supporting The Platform?
> the media?

  Well, for starters your conscience should. Not that conscience seems
to make any difference to you.

>   i can't accept that a person shouldn't march
> because the media is going to define everyone as supporting
> The Platform (gasp) -- you know, the same media which distorts
> Gay Pride by focusing solely on drag queens and leathermen.
> also, are you really so naive as to believe that all gay
> activists are going to be silent with respect to their
> positions on the platform?

  And they wouldn't be right? I can't see how you can avoid this
conclusion: you march, you support. This is a political rally
not a cocktail party.

> will the intelligent politicians define us all as supporting
> The Platform?  the intelligent politicians, supporting and
> opposing their own political platforms, understand the
> separation between a platform and the constituent's actual
> views.  intelligent politicians understand the media because
> they use it all the time.

  You're getting into dangerous territory mixing words like
"politician" and "intelligent". Perhaps "politician" and 
"knee-jerk". And in any case why should they doubt the 
groups sincerity? Do you really think they actually go
out and investigate the "true motivation" of a mob of
people marching on the Mall? 
   Dream on.

> The Enemy?  then your invisibility by not marching only
> contributes to The Problem.

  Oh spare me the guilt trip.

> >If you support it
> >(or enough that it's worth the compromise) that's fine. If you
> >don't you're either a bloody hypocrite or a moron.
> 
> and which, precisely, are you?  the supporter, the bloody
> hypocrite, or the moron?  we're close to writing a Peter
> Greenway film here.

  Your two little neurons are having problems again. 

> >   The only thing these things have in common is the large number
> >of queers in one place. That may be enough for your skewed perspective
> >but the rest of America is going to want to know what all those faggots
> >are whining about. Guess what they are going to be told.
> 
> by *whom*, mike?  told *by*whom*?

  The media. Isn't this clear? How else do you expect they hear about
it (if at all)?
 
> the platform be
> damned.  it's not The Reason why i'm marching.  i'm marching
> more for a show of force than support for the platform.

  Then you would qualify for the "moron" part.
 
> >  Those of us who have half a conscience about not become utter
> >hypocrites are thus excluded because of a whole laundry list of
> >superficial and irrelevant issues are tacked on like an Omnibus
> >Funding Bill.
> 
> (*scream*) OH MY GOD, MOMMA THOMAS, MIKEY MARCHED FOR ABORTION
> RIGHTS!!  WHY, JUST LAST WEEK, HE TOLD US HE WAS PRO-LIFE!!  I
> GUESS HE LIED!

  Wrong. Try again.
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