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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:19:42 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

france@lsil.com (France account) writes:
: Ken Ferguson writes :
: " Little did Bayle suspect that Stanton would come back the next year
:  and show the Euros Just who the best in the world really is. 
:  This obviously came as a shock to Jean. "
:       ^^^^^^^^^
: 
: I didn't see the LA race but what is "obviously" is that the best this year 
: was Bradshaw not Stanton, and Stanton should at least thanks his team mate to 
: finish in front of Bradshaw in this last race ...

A couple of points here after viewing the highlights on Motoworld.

1) Bayle looked like he could have passed Damon much sooner but was waiting to see if
   Damon would mount a charge and he wanted to be out of the way (?).  Damon 
   was "obviously" out of sync as he couldn't even keep his fee on the pegs.

2) Bayle never even congratulated his "teamate" on his victory.

3) Bayle had to finish 3rd or better to win.  He was already in 4th (or 5th, and not 
   moving forward) when Bayle passed him.  See #1.

4) While I agree that Bradshaw seemed to be the better rider this year, Jeff 
   was more focused.  Damon threw the race away at Vegas with the BoneHead
   takeout of Chicken.  He was more focused on revenge (which he had no
   cause for) than winning titles.

5) Bayle was/is/will be the smoothest rider to come around for a long
   time.  He just needs to work on his people skills and maybe learn the 
   words "teamwork" and "appreciation".

Just my $.02.

: Francois Ducaroir


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From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Bike Suggestions?
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:27:11 GMT
Organization: RAND
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      It seems that this particular subject breeds controversy. Probably
because
one person thinks the bike he rides is best, and can't figure out why
nobody
will agree with him.


        First of all what do you really want? The main attributes of the
perfect
bike are handling, power, ergonomics, parts availability, dealer
support,and
brand race history. That is to mean now, not ten years ago when say Bob
Hanna
was fast.

        Take a look at the DB publications. See just which bike is
winning everything
and try and notice who is breaking down the most, and which brand of bike
he had his
legs wrapped around. You may find however that a certain bike is not
suited for
you in particular. If you don't like the looks of it then you will hardly
enjoy
yourself on it.

       Whatever you decide on make sure it's what you really want. not
something
your going to settle for. Remember those payments wont go away with your
declining interest in that bike.



                          Ken Ferguson CAMPIONE RACING
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From: ramz@beta.lanl.gov (Thomas Rick Ramsey)
Subject: Trail clearing with chain saws
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:22:38 GMT

Every spring, the riders of the Blackfeather Club organize cleanup rides
to open various trail systems to bicycle and motorcycle use.  This spring
was especially busy because of the large amount of down trees caused
by an early wet snow last fall.

We usually organize the rides to include at least one rider with a chain
saw, and all the other riders carry pruning saws, machettes, and/or
hatchets.  Jim B. carries his chain saw in a back pack.  Al mounts his saw
on the front fender, against the number plate.  Gordo and Jeff each carry
their saws on the back of their seats.  I mount my medium size Stihl
chainsaw crosswise behind me on the seat, and hold it down with 4 black
rubber tie-downs.

Although most of us can get over and/or around downfall, it becomes
tedious.  Years ago, we never spent much time clearing.  But for
the last five years or so, we clear every spring.  As we say, "Clear
the trail once, and ride it a hundred times."  This spring we cleared
about 250 miles of trail over a period of three months.  Besides opening
up trails, the work is fun and helps get us in shape after sitting around
all winter.

Incidentally, we have signed volunteer trail maintenance agreements
with two US Forest Service Districts.

Rick Ramsey  ramz@lanl.gov  505/662-2447 eves.
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From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Subject: wife now knows why!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:28:48 GMT

While my bike is out of commission with 2 flat tires and I have of Andy's 
pit bike, I thought it would be a good time to teach my wife to ride.  The
pit bike is about a '78 Yamaha DT125 enduro.  Tracy(=wife) is short and so is
the DT.  She was scared at first, but with a little coaxing and a story about
being like a bicycle that does not tire you out she agreed to try it.  I showed
her where all the controls are and showed her how they operate.  She tried them
and said the clutch was hard to pull.  It's an easy pull by my standards, but I
agreed with her.  I started the bike, while she watched and then shut it off.
I told her to give it a try.  It took her a few minutes of suffering before she
got the hang of the kick-starter, but she got it fired up.  I had her strap on
the Bell street helmet and helped her get started.  I rode on the back until
she felt comfortable riding around in the open field behind our apartment.  She
was starting to have fun now.  She rode around the field several times,
practicing here take-offs and stops.  After 20 minutes or so she came over and 
told me that it's really fun, but the flat field is getting boring.  I said
that I knew, but it was a really good place to learn.  She agreed with me and 
I told her that I would take her to a place that would be more fun next time.
After another 10 minutes of riding she called it quits.  She is now aware of
the reason that I ride motorcycles.  Well to put it in her words, " It's fun,
but I don't know why you race.  I don't like going fast."  She is already 
toying with the idea of her own dirt bike.  Can anyone say XR100.  I think I
started something.  

_____________________________________________________________________________
DoD #359         '91  CR250            |         Mike Baxter   
AMA #607249                            |              
TCCRA  #061    250cc int. class        |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   
50 miles of off-road Hell              |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.
_______________________________________|_____________________________________
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: RUBICON TRAIL  (4 wheels ? )
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:48:40 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
: In rec.motorcycles.dirt, slv42@cc.usu.edu writes:
: 
: >Don't rip on the jeeps & 4-wheelers too much.  
: 
: And why not?  I can't count the number of jerks in 4x4s that I've been
: stuck behind.  Their desire to let a motorcycle past them appears to
: decrease expotentially with the number of vehicles in the group.  Granted,
: I occasionally come across some who pull over at the first available
: opportunity to let motorcycles around, but they appear to be the exception
: rather than the rule.  

[Tales of Jeff in a photogenic state deleted]

The first race I went to in Colorado was held in Breckenridge about 7 years
ago.  I remember being stuck behind a jeep (yes, during the race) on a 
semi-rocky uphill.  JerkWadBehindtheWheel seemed oblivious to the screaming
machines around him and was content to block the trail in 4Low whilst his
buddies in the back had turned around to watch the carnage from the back 
seat.  I tried to take all the paint off the front end with liberal amounts 
of gas and clutch.  I probably wouldn't have done this except I saw the 
gawkers in the back throwing beer cans out of the jeep and this really
pissed me off and gave me a bad attitude towards most jeepers.  I agree 
that there are the courteous ones, but, unfortunately, they seem to be
in the minority.

: To the jeeps that are courteous, I'll always wave and give them a verbal
: thank you as I motor past.  To the ones that aren't, I won't vent my anger
: with verbal abuse, but they don't get much praise either.  

I try to thank anyone who lets me by, be it moto, quad, jeep, or pedestrian.
If they don't let me by, they generally get roosted.

: 
: -Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
: jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
: It's not how fast you get there, but how you get there fast.

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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
Date: 26 Jul 92 11:25:38 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
: 
: Hooweeee!! Like where do I start??
: 
: I'm still up in the clouds!
: 
: TWO SECONDS AND A FIRST PLACE!!!!  OVERALL NOVICE WIN!!!!   YAY!!!!
: [5m 
: MY FIRST ROAD RACE TROPHY!!!!   YAY!!!!!

Congratulations George.  Glad to see that some of us dirt types can
kick butt anywhere :-)

I'm off to Steamboat this weekend and hope to avoid a flat this time!

l8r,


  O                    Ken Murphy aka kenm@array.com              President RMEC
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From: oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Tires for rocks?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:08:16 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: oconnor@coffee.eng.umd.edu


slv42@cc.usu.edu,  Eric Poulson writes:
>the Pirelli MT21 Rallycross (rated 1'st) seems like a lot of tire 
>for the $.
 
Maybe I'm just cheap, but I haven't seen *any* motorcycle tires
which seem like a "lot of tire for the $".  I pay $75 for a
235/75 X 15 Goodyear Wrangler for my truck, and get 70,000 miles
out of these!  Now, that's "a lot of tire for the $"!!!
Maybe one of those Cheng Shing Bermasters for $38 or so bucks
maaay be a lot of tire for the money.  Who knows.  I don't  think
anyone has bought one yet.  But ~$70 bucks for a tire that lasts
how long????; this is expensive stuff.....

*Mark OConnor      Aerospace Engineering      University of Maryland*
*'90 CR250R        AMA District 7 Vet #90     MB Racing Group       *
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:27:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: donner.1992Jul23.212747.17258
Organization: Your Organization Here

In article <1992Jul23.065850.10127@convex.com>, couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
|> 
|> > 
|> > There'll be more than one of us waiting to hear.  You may even get
|> > requests for detailed desc. of the preping.  Good luck mate.
|> 
|> 	Man I've got a shit load of info on what I've done so far. I've
|> 	even take notes of settings, geometry etc of the things I think I
|> 	may need to change....
|> 
|> 	Thanks for the good wishes everyone....There are a couple of
|> 	guys here that are ready to move into my office on Monday... Well,
|> 	they think it's funny....
|> 

More good wishes George from another old fart & r.m.dirt lurker. Keep
out of hospital and keep us all posted!
-- 
          Jon M.(Mike) Corcoran <Mike.Corcoran@SanDiego.NCR.COM>   
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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Road Racer
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:14:19 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Well, this weekend will see project CRRR500 (That's CR(R)oad (R)ace 500) 
hit the track. I'm entered at a local track in the novice "run what ya
brung" class where I'll be mixing it with a bunch of RZ's, CBR's etc..
etc.. all being ridden by stary eyed would be Mick Doohans....(my wife
hates me)...

I've finally got the suspension shortened and stiffened, a decent set of
wheels and tyres, shortened the muffler, gone a bit overboard in the porting 
(I did it late at night), borrowed a bigger carby and top end pipe and have 
it reasonably jetted etc..etc.......It should be geared for close to 200 kph
....oh man I'm shitting myself already....

I'm still worried about the steering geometry because it's still a bit
quick and nervous. It's had a couple of "jaunts" around some nice twisty
country roads near my place and it's quite frightening. It hits quite hard
and will break loose around a bend (that's if I can keep the front down)
and is by far the strongest motor I've ever felt in a bike. It runs out 
pretty high and just keeps trying to pull my arms out of their sockets......
.....oh man I'm really shitting myself...

I must admit that I'm scared of this bike....if you haven't gathered that
already...whatever possesed me to entertain such an idea in the first
place? I have to go through with it because I've got half a dozen mates
waiting to see what it's like. At least I have been promised all the beer
I can drink if I survive the day....

Any last minute pointers from anyone out there? The local racers I've
spoken with are all very encouraging, very helpful and interested. They 
do think I'm crazy though....

Oh well, if I don't like it, at least I can get the suspension and wheels
back to stock....and man what a motor for the dirt...

If you don't hear from me next week, I'm in hospital...
George C.

From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:18:41 GMT
Subject: Land Use Mailing List
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

Our Forest Service District office is currently examining a large number 
of single track trails in the area to determine if they should remain
open to motorized vehicles.   You may recall some of my previous discussions. 
Right now, the future looks pretty grim :-(

As part of the review process, the USFS solicited public inputs.  Our club
recently obtained copies of all the letters received by the USFS.  Of over
400 letters, only 10% were pro-motorized use.  This saddens me.  I know
that we have over  120 family memberships in our club, and hundreds more
riders in the region.  What can be done to make ourselves noticed over
the well-organized land-owners associations and environmental groups?  

Then it occurred to me.  You can help.  That's right, you sitting at a
terminal in a distant state, or remote continent.  Let's start up a mailing
list for OHVs.  The people on this list will be those who are willing to
take a few moments to send a letter to a land manager supporting his fellow 
dirt bike rider.  I can imagine the surprise of local officials when they 
start receiving letters from across the world.  On more than one occasion,
I've written to the BLM officials in California regarding the Barstow to 
Vegas event.  We *can* build strength in numbers.  

If we can counter even half of the anti-OHV letters with well thought out, 
reasonable responses, we've tipped the scales.  

Topics can range from local land use, to national legislation.  The list 
will be used whenever a fellow rider needs support in protecting OHV 
privileges.  (You all did fax your senators regarding the National Trail 
Recreation Trust Fund, didn't you?) 

I'm willing to start and maintain this list if there is interest.  Please
email me if you'd like to be added.  If there is enough volume, I'll see if
I can't whine loud enough to get one of our systems folks to  automate the
whole thing.

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD#0000   DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu 
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
Dirt bike riding is perfectly safe; I have the scars to prove it. 
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From: dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne)
Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:15:19 GMT

     First overall!!!! No way mate!  Can't believe you could kick ass
     like that on the first try.  It may have been Novice class, but
     with all the experience you have with bikes in general, that's what
     carried you thru to the trophy.  Way to go dude   B^)

     Question -- how'd you get those KX's of yours street legal?  Do
     they have some slack rules in OZ -- what about lights, tires,
     exhaust, license plate?  A good friend did it here with his YZ490,
     but it wasn't easy and he didn't ride it much.

     >> WaveRunner is back, seems to be running well.  But that engine
     gets more beat up every time the intake gets lunched...

     >>> Thought I had to run from a copper late Saturday night, but I
     don't think he was really after me.  I ditched him anyway, I was
     right in "my neighborhood"... almost shat myself though!


     jed --  YZ490 / XL125 / WaveRunner 500 / more in the works / AMA
--
           Jim Dunne 	dunne@rtsg.mot.com    ...uunet!motcid!dunne
 All statements are merely opinions, yet are corroborated by a .357 magnum.
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Road Racer
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:59:33 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Jul24.000339.8352@spdc.ti.com> baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter) writes:
>George,
>	Do you have any plans on putting on a front wheel with dual 
>disk.  (BTW, what kind of wheels do you have on it now?)  If not, you 
>can weld some fins onto the caliper to help disipate some heat.  What I 
>wouldn't give to be able to have a street legal CR500.  
>
	Yea, I toyed with the idea, but it just seemed too hard at the time
	for this "let's test the water" project. The front wheel is a 3 spoke
	mag I borrowed from a mate. I turned down some spacers to make it all
	fit.

	The fins on the caliper sounds good. Too late to try it now though.
	Wouldn't the heat warp the caliper piston bore?

	About the street legal CR500?....well, my KX250, KX500 and TT600 are
	street legal  8-)  ......not that I'd jump on one to get milk and
	bread from the corner store....It makes it easy riding wherever I
	want though...

	Thanks Mike and spare a thought for me as you sit down to your 
	evening meal on Saturday. I'll be out there on the other side of 
	the world shitting my pants and hopefuly, not crashing..

	Cheers
	George C.

>					May your headshake be minimal,
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>DoD #359         '91  CR250            |         Mike Baxter   
>AMA #607249                            |              
>TCCRA  #061    250cc int. class        |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
>Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   
>50 miles of off-road Hell              |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.
>_______________________________________|_____________________________________
>
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From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Honda Win's (again)
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:17:57 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2



     Francois; How can you say Bradshaw is best? Sure he won more races
than Stanton, but look who the champion is. You seem to have taken my 
words out of context. It takes more to become a champion in any sport 
than to just win races. Consistency is the key in this game. Jeff Stanton
just happens to be very consistent. He is one of the few that will
sacrifice a possible win
for the sure points of a top 5 placeing. This "obviously" seems to be the
winning
combination.


     As for France's future S/X hopes. Put them on Yves DeMaria . Heres a
Bradshaw
clone that hangs it all out for a heat race, only to die out with either
an injury
or mongo crash the main. But don't worry as soon as Bradshaw and 
DeMaria mature and become seasoned "professionals" then they will
experience
the feeling of champion .


     I also would like to take this opportunity to thank JMB for teaching
our
apathetic American  riders not to take our S/X mastery for granted. And 
to wish him the best of luck in his new road racing career. I am confident
that he will do splendidly in that crazy knee dragging sport.


     Ken Ferguson CAMPIONE RACING

                            Agoura CA.
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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:17:07 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: YIPEEEEE!
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> [details of a great weekend deleted]
> 
> CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

	Aww shucks, it was noth'n..
> 
> Glad the new bike worked out.  You might wanna try swapping the front
> end with something from a 600 class sportbike to get better
> brakes/better front suspension.  I really can't believe that you raced

	Lotsa choices goi'n through my little mind....

> it without a steering damper...  Believe me when I say that you DO NOT
> want to get in a tank slapper.

	Yup, it'll go on before the next meeting. I believe you...

> be great (were the '86 CR's liquid cooled?).

	Yup.
> 
> What kinda class was the novice class that you ran?  Was it all first
> timers, or is it set up like novice classes here, where you can have
> novice racers that are better than 90% of the experts?

	Well, from what I've seen, the novices are just novices. As soon
	as they begin to do well after a few meetings, they are bumped up
	to C grade straight away. It's good I think because it helps people 
	like me get a feel for road racing without being too intimidated.

	If I finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd next meeting, that's it. I'm bumped
	up. Also, there are no points or anything. It's just race by race.

> Anyway, I'm psyched that you did well.  Always great to hear of a new

	Ha, ya reckon you're psyched, I haven't stopped running around
	the office leaning into the corners and crouching down as I go
	brrraaaaaaap  on the straights...It's sad mate, let me tell you..
	People around here are going to start wearing rain coats...

> | I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			    Ummmm, me too....

	Cheers,
	George C.

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