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From: fellow@cs.utexas.edu (Heng Wei Osbert Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Please enlighten me Othman
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:19:05 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoakum.cs.utexas.edu


On the subject of promoting non mandarin speaker to the position of 
the principal in a Chinese School in Malaysia:

Othman wrote:
> > There are a lot of those in Singapore. Why can't we promote him even if he
> > only learns a few Mandarin words?

Tai rebuffed:
> 
> 	That's Singapore.  I think it would extremely difficult to find such
> creatures in M'sia (ie, teaching in chinese schools, but can't speak chinese)
> 


I know, I know ... I know that we all know Othman often mouth off nonsenses.
But please, do us and the general readers a favor, atleast try to get your
fact straight before you talk ? Othman ?

Do produce ONE example of a principal in Singapore's chinese school who
doesn't speak atleast decent mandarin, I challenge you. I do not think
you even know which are the chinese schools in Singapore, do you ?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND)
Subject: Send it again..
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:56:33 GMT



Kumar,

	Recently I've received e-mail from you but somehow I lost it. So, I 
don't have your e-mail address. Can you please send me a copy of that e-mail
again with the questions?
  Thanks.

Geeva Subramaniam.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kama@microsoft.com (Kam Foo Aw)
Subject: Re: Malaysia news, Oct, 3,1992.=>N-power plant.
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:53:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


How about wind power plant, like those in California?  It needs to be built
at places that consistently has wind strong enough to rotate the "wind mill" 
(don't know the proper term).  There should be some places at East coast of
penisular of Malaysia that meet the requirement.  It still suffer the
same problem as solar power: expensive.  Otherwise, It is as environmentally
sound as solar power.

Kam
kama@microsoft.com
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Think Malaysian, not Malay, Chinese, Indian????????
Keywords: Malaysia for Malays, more likely
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:57:00 GMT

nlatif@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif) writes:

>This is from your point of viwe (a Chinese).  Have you ever listened from 
>another person point of view (the Singaporean Malays perhaps)?? I have!!
>And believe me, its just the same as in Malaysia (only its the opposite).


Oh, really , 'En. O', ?  Isn't Malays in Singapore given FREE
tertiary education ? And in Malaysia ? ??  YOU are a classic case
of ' seeing a speck of dust in someone else eye, but Not a big
tropical forest LOG in your own'.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: aa1111147@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (Sunny TAN Chung-Yung (^_^))
Subject: Oy !
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 06:10:31 GMT

 
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 I thought this was supposed to be a *discussion* group... >:(

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From: 20lim@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Why the double standard?
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:43:38 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov19.171534.2343@athena.mit.edu>, fadzil@athena.mit.edu (Mohd F Zakaria) writes:
> -- 
> I have been a little distressed at the number of postings on this net requesting or endorsing
> censorship.  True there are a few contributors whose ideas are not well accepted by many
> other readers, but does this give the latter the right to throw these contributors of the

:::::::Nothing to do with this article -

Just for your info. You need to set your right margin to 70 or less. I 
believe that you may have typed this on a Mac or a Sparc station. Puters
with a screen width of 80 chars get funky output (eg PC's).

Messed up output like this tends to get skipped by readers.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: fhchua@athena.mit.edu (Fei Hai Chua)
Subject: Malay Webster
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:10:37 GMT


Does anyone know if there exist a Malays version of Webster or any kind
Malay electronic dictionary?

-Fei
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: siflash@solomon.technet.sg (Singapore International Foundation)
Subject: 2 DPMs with cancer
Summary: BG Lee & Ong Teng Cheong have malignant lymphoma
Keywords: Read SIFlash for more details
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:26:35 GMT

BG Lee Hsien Loong first deputy Prime Minister,40, was found to have 3 polyps in
his rectum during a routine checkup. They were found recently to be
intermediate grade malignant lymphoma, he has just started a course of
chemotheraphy yesterday and he can resume working. Mr Ong Teng Cheong was found
to have low grade malignant lymphoma in his neck. For more details, read
SIFlash. See netnews item "Free news service for Singaporeans" on how to
access the sytem.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: looi@ssf-corp.dhl.com (Wan Looi)
Subject: wanted: dbase 3/4 programmers for contract work in m'sia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:14:00 GMT
Organization: DHL Worldwide Express, Redwood City, Calif., USA


A friend of mine in M'sia is looking for a few smart DBase III/IV
programmers for a POS (point of sale) product source code modification 
contract. This contract will last for about, but is not limited to 
1 month. Ideally, this position is suitable for students who are 
planning to go back to M'sia during spring break this year and would 
like to make some $$$ and gain experience at the same time.

If you have (or know someone who has) extensive DBase programming
skills and experience under DOS environment, please rush your resume
to me via the email address or fax number given in my sig file.


Thank you.

W.W.Looi
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan)
Subject: Legends anyone??? Pleaaaaseeee... :)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:39:20 GMT



Hi ya there netters,

Over the past few weeks or so this news group has a lot of "discussion"
about the serious stuff....ie the racial issues etc.  So for a change
here I'm requesting people of all races and religion to write in 
about their legends in their society.  This would indeed be interesting
and would give us an insight in their way of life.

For example, altougth I'm a Chinese, I don't really knwo why we 
celebrate Chinese New Year!! *I'm ashamed* =)  .  Anybody kind
enough to enlighten me??  :)

Got this idea after reading the article about why Indians celebrate
Deepavali.

Hopefully, this trend will make this news group more interesting.

Thanks for reading,
siong
From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysian News
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:35:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin Wreck from Georgia Tech

In article <1e1984INN8vn@aludra.usc.edu>, khairon@usc.edu (Rosli Bin Khairon) writes:
> 
>     I was just wondering where you got the Malaysian papers from. It is
> not that I don't appreciate the fine work these unsung heroes of the net
> have done in posting Malaysian news, but if you read them closely, those
> who post the news have added their own slant to the news. Without getting
> too deeply philosophical here, the selective witholding of information 
> can be construed as lying. I cannot speak for others, but my personal 
> feeling is: Let ME add my own slant to the news, thank you very much. 
>     So, please, if anyone should know of where I can subscribe to a 
> Malaysian paper, drop me a line.
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Rosli Khairon
> University of South Central
> Los Angeles la Pueblo Nuestra


	Well sir, to avoid future unnecessary hate and confusion, I think
	you should start reading the disclaimers too.  Maybe by reading
	the disclaimer you'll get a ball park idea of the orientation of
	the M'sian news posted.

	You can ofcourse get your homeland news from your international
	students office, or you can always call up those people at MSD
	to send you some newsletters or newspapers.

	Or you can get M'sian  news from your community library.  If they
	dont have them and if you by any chance want to subscibe to
	m'sian newspapers, you can always ask the librarian at your
	local library to give you all the addresses that you need.
 	They have this book where you have all the addresses of almost
	all newspapers on this planet.  Kinda like who's who books.

	Hopefully this info will do you some good.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: yuaw@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Aw Yang Uei)
Subject: **Email Address**
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:53:20 GMT

Hi,

   I am looking for a friend at IOWA university.
   Anyone know the email address there?
   My friend is in 3rd year Computer Science, so anyone know what mechine
does the 3rd year students usually use at that university? 


   Thanks in advance.


   Uei.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:58:31 EST
From: *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malcom X

In article <98219@netnews.upenn.edu>, mmuhamad@widget.seas.upenn.edu says:

> nlatif@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>>
>>"Malcom X" the movie, opens today in the States. From all the promotions n
>>stuff, this should be a good movie. Later.
>>

>Hm....  Please dont mistake with the 'Malcom XL' or 'Malcom XXX' at the
>Times Square n 42nd street NYC :) - David Letterman



Hmmm, both are from U. Penn. It's a good school isn't it ? How come you guys
still write like a kid ? Quote from David Letterman ? Malcom XXX ?  NYC  ?

What are these ? I think you guys have a lot to catch up in you readings. Why
don't you guys try sending a letter home and ask for a book called " Ghuta
Gimpala " It's a book on social behavior. And don't worry, it's in English !

Guessing from your names, it is probable that you guys are Malays, and probably
Muslim too. Hmmm, I guess your parents would be ashamed if they see your
postings. Again, no flame intended here :)

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Ps- moi ? flame ? ........naaaaah
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: canand@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Kajangite
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:36:34 GMT

I was wondering if there were any Kajangites around.I am specifically looking
for those who may have been in KAJANG HIGH SCHOOL around 1970.If I am familiar
to anyone, please Email.

Cheers.-- 

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From: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Gossips
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:47:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...) says:

>In article <1992Nov15.215633.4019@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno) writes:
>> thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO):
>>>For those who slammed Candy lately, she's just emailed me - lacking the
>>>guts to post her misguided replies onto the net. Since there seems to be 
>>>interest in what sort of drivel this she-twit writes, here are some 
>>>excerpts.

[deleted]

>For anyone to post a private email to the net has got to be "bad", to put
>it nicely.  Only wants an audience I'd say, no matter what Tse says.

I was apparently "...slammed in more ways than one" by Tse Huan Choo  :(


>Did they used to be going out??   Be an Ex-War if so....so can Tse kindly
>keep it between himself and Candy.  If others want to know about anything,
>they can ask for forwards of the messages, or to be put on the CC list.


Noooooooooooooo...gimme some credit would ya? I'd probably smell this
one out better than you can smell a dead skunk along the highways. 
Sheeeshhh...



Fluffy
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From: vcs_teo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (VCS Teo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia's racial policies
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:22:17 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <1992Nov14.055829.19796@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>Chuah Yeow Chiang (chuah@sail.cc.u-tokyo.JUNET) wrote:
>: only give special privilege to the needy Malays(not to mention those well to
>: do Malays who benefited from the policy), but not those needy from other races?
>:  Yes. We all know that. But just look at
>: the proportion of the number awarded. Do you think it is proportional to the
>: needy population of the respective races in Malaysia? As T.P.Loh has pointed
>: out, for eg. only 5% or less of the Malaysian government scholarship for
>
>Why not? Have you got figures to prove your view? You also forgot to take
>into account the excess effort needed to "catch up". 

Oh no ! here we go again.


> Mind you, our local universities are a lot better than
>some US universities.

Like some of our local malays are a lot richer then some chinese & indians

> The overseas financial assistance should be given to
>the best students to got to the best univeristies in the world.

For once I agree with you here. 2nd and 3rd best should't get it for any
reason at all....:)

===vicotr===



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin)
Subject: Re: who's right & who's wrong arguments [was Re: racial harmony- Yasmin]
Organization: PSU Earth and Mineral Sciences
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:18:55 GMT

In article <Nov.17.19.04.39.1992.15280@gandalf.rutgers.edu> heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juergen Heerdegen) writes:

>Perhaps YOU and Mr. Quayle are related.  Judging from your poor command of the
>vernacular, this might not be an incorrect assumption.  I just felt that I 

Very interesting indeed!!!

My poor command of vernacular is enough for you to judge my way of
thinking?  Come on, you can do better than that if you want to argue
with me.  It is so pathetic to see a person like you assumming
something from somebody's poor command of a language.  Then, perhaps
you should ask yourself whetehr you are related to Quayle or not.  

I want to know your naive ideas no matter how disgusting you convey
them.

>would point out that this only detracts from your arguments (however flawed
>they might be).  Statements such as (a paraphrase - ) "all whites are 
>Christians" 

Who said "all whites are Christians"? I said I have been preached by
some Christians about Christianity many times since I came to the
states.  That doesn't mean that "all whites in America are
Christians".  The fact is most whites in this country are
Christians.  Whether they are good Christians or not is none of my
business.

>and (again a paraphrase- ) "America is in a state of moral decay
>because of this society's views concerning pornography, extra-marital affairs,
>etc" endear you to noone :-).

Why it endears me to noone when talking about the moral decay of
America?  If pornography and extra-marital affairs are not the
elements of moral decay, then what are they?  A way of life? 

OK Heerdergen, don't take my posting as a flame.  Put more info in
your posting if u want to argue with me.  I accept your naive
arguments about my ideas for now, but not for long.


-Azlan Nordin-
  Penn State
From: x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: MALAYSIA: Righting the wrongs.
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:48:59 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

  
   Since independence, Malaysia has achieve greatness in many aspects 
especially in the field of science and technology, economy, health care
infrastructure and the list goes on.....
  
   However, I feel that we as Malaysians are not doing enough to 
    
   1) to promote racial intergration  
  
   2) help those have high potentials but could not afford to
      pursue their dreams.

   POINT ONE, As far as I can see (especially in the NETWORK),
there is bound to "have" some racial fire, racist remarks and 
personal attacks when some Malays and Chinese " get together for 
a discussion". The reason?????, We do not understand each our cultures 
and backgrounds enough. For example, there is this common belief among
the Chinese that " Malays are Lazy " NO!!!! THAT IS NOT TRUE!!
I was told that Islam encourages "moderation" in a life of a MUSLIM and
to be statisfied and contented with what Allah has provided to him.
( Pls correct me if I am wrong. I need to know ! ) . Most Chinese do not
know this, hence give a negative sweeping statement about the Malays.

   POINT TWO, I have read ( in the NETWORK ) that some students have
studied for 18 but still have not been given the chance to further their
studies, locally or abroad . It's very sad and pitiful. Someone suggested
to eliminate the local "university racial quota". However, I  believe
we cannot do this because it will infringe the rights of Malays, as
stated in the Constitution. BUT I feel the Malaysian Government should
set up more universities and perhaps open up the doors of MARA ( Majlis
Amanah RAKYAT) to those people I who I have mentioned. (hence the RAKYAT
in MARA)


  The generations before us made mistakes, our generation( THE NEW GENERATION)
must correct this mistakes and make Malaysia a place where hopes and dreams
blossom into achievement and success. Let's forget the bad blood between us.
So fellow Malaysians, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!


                      Let Diversity Be Our Strength
                          NOT OUR WEAKNESS.



I'm open for comments and CONSTRUCTIVE critism.



PEACE..HAVE IT OR LOSE IT......


STANLEY LIM aka (ZIGGY)

Kalamazoo, Michigan..


                         
  

 
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: azran@leland.Stanford.EDU (Azran Osman Rani)
Subject: Re: Malaysia news, Oct, 3,1992.=>N-power plant.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:51:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.005353.3589@microsoft.com> kama@microsoft.com (Kam Foo Aw) writes:
>
>How about wind power plant, like those in California?  It needs to be built
>at places that consistently has wind strong enough to rotate the "wind mill" 
>(don't know the proper term).  There should be some places at East coast of
>penisular of Malaysia that meet the requirement.  It still suffer the
>same problem as solar power: expensive.  Otherwise, It is as environmentally
>sound as solar power.
>
>Kam
>kama@microsoft.com
>

The most important criterion for harnassing wind energy to generate electricity
is consistent winds and not necessarily sheer strength of the winds.
The winds in central California, near Livermore, are pretty consistent due
to the geography of the area.  The winds in the East Coast are strong
but very inconsistent. They are from the monsoons. In fact, if the winds
are too strong (in the case of East Coast Malaysia), it will only damage
the wind mills.  
You have to remember that power cannot be stored. (in significant amounts -
batteries don't count unless you want the country to be run on duracells :-))
That is why wind consistency is important. You cannot store the short
bursts of generated energy from inconsistent winds. The generators must operate
at a constant frequency (50kHz in Malaysia), Making the windmills spin
any faster is not going to do any good.

Azran Osman-Rani
Stanford University

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong   ^.^)
Subject: Looking for A Friend
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:01:49 GMT


Hello! I am looking for a friend who is studying in BOND UNIVERSITY,
Queensland, Australia. The person name is Yeh Ming Fei & Yeh Ming Sze
and is in business. If you know them please E-mail to me. Thanx


+---------------------------------------------------------------------+

	Name: Kai-Xiong Huang
	E-mail: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
	Memorial University Of Newfoundland
	Faculty of Electrical engr.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ins774h@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr. Thaddaeus)
Subject: Re: Happy Christmas And Merry New YEAR !!!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:39:54 GMT

s923257@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Ming E Chew) writes:

>Hello everyone,

>Wishing you guys and gals a happy christmas and merry new year!!!!

>Its never too early!!!

>:)

	Arghhhhhhhhh, you beat me to it! Anyways, Merry Christmas to all and

to all a Merry Christmas.	];->


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