From: u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AmigaDroids will *never* change
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:34:48 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <1992Jul28.200819.41960@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> In article <doiron.073u@starpt.UUCP>, doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron) writes:
>> In article <mykes.0996@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul16.095008.41597@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>>> In article <1992Jul15.232830.1060@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, catapcnl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Christopher Neil Lawrence) writes:
>>>> >
>>>> > In article <1992Jul15.164009.41582@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
>>>> > thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>>> >> Is there any AmigaDroid out there that will admit that the Amiga
>>>> >> is missing at least one feature that the PC has?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or that 2.04 is not quite as spiffy in some respects as OS/2 2.0?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or that when 47 programs are running at the same time in 2.04, the
>>>> >> machine is not quite as usable as it is running 1 program (or not
>>>> >> usable at all)?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Notice, this is directed toward AmigaDroids.  I'm sure all of you
>>>> >> normal people who are using Amigas would be more open minded.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't mean to ask a silly question, but can you run 47 programs at one
>>>> > time on any system for less than $5000, Amiga, IBM, or otherwise?  Don't
>>>> > forget that AmigaDOS (and I assume Windows as well) are running at least a
>>>> > dozen background tasks (device drivers, user interface, input processor)
>>>> > *before* it even gets to user programs.
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris Lawrence
>>>>
>>>> Well this is what was claimed on ibmpc.misc by some AmigaDroid.  47 programs.
>>>> So I am asking here.  Is it possible?  You could in OS/2, but if you didn't
>>>> have a ton of memory, then there would be some slowdown.
>>>>
>> [Mykes tasklist deleted]
>> 
>> Here is what I'm running on my A3000.  I am using 3meg out of the 10meg I have
>> on my machine.
>  [Glenn's task list deleted]
>> 
>> As you can see my computer is spending a lot of time doing nothing, which
>> it does most of the time.  I can tell you this;  despite the 42 tasks I have
>> waiting in the background, my system is still lightning fast...
>> 
> 
> I did not ask the question properly.  Let me rephrase.  
> 
> Is it possible to run 47 applications at the same time with no loss
> of snappines/performance in the foreground?  By applications, I mean
> word processors, spreadsheets, databases, comm programs.  
> 
> In OS/2, I just run the application (say 32 bit Describe), and when I 
> look at the task list, I see "Describe."  I also see certain folders
> and other Workplace Shell stuff.  If I were to count all of the WPS
> stuff (as tasks) with the applications, then sure, I could run 40, 50,
> maybe up close to 80-100 tasks.  But I mean applications.
> 
> In Windows 3.1 on a machine with 4 megs of RAM, I can run about 20 or so
> applications before performance becomes unacceptable (average application
> probably is 100-200kb in size).  I haven't tried this many applications
> with OS/2 but I will in the future. 
> 
> So, how many applications can be run in AmigaDOS without slowing the
> machine down a bunch?
> 
>> Glenn Doiron

	Only limited by memory I assume. Offcorce if you have a spread sheet
multiplying or a fast mandelbrot calculating at high detail you can observe
slowdown. Setting priorities will solve the problem though you will slow down
the application. The operating system is very fast. It is only limited to the
speed of the processor. I have a little program that flips screens with the
help of a mouse button. I can run say 10 applications and flip though the
screens (not windows on one screen) as fast as I can click on the mouse. This I
could do on a 3meg A500 with 7mhz speed ! Try that on a slow 286 as some would
like to consider as the IBM equivalent. I garantee I have impressed any IBM
user that I have shown it to. Most dont realise I fliped screens but that
something happened and they don't ask since they are at a confused state.
I now have an A3000 with 6 megs ... The operating system is the fastest I have
set my hands on. I have played with Appolos, indigoes, IBMS of many configs
macs, Suns although it might not be a fair comparison as AmigaDos might not
have mem protection but nothing coms close.
	George



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>> Amiga UUCP+
>> Origin:  uunet!starpt!doiron     (Organization:68K Software Development)
>>          BIX: gdoiron
>> ** Not enough memory to perform requested operation.  Add 4 megs and retry.
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