HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: steel bars
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:22:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In <1992Apr12.052933.23563@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:

>In article <1992Apr9.230123.16765@NCoast.ORG>, allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH) writes:
>|> As quoted from <1992Apr7.072229.13451@ucc.su.OZ.AU> by mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar):
>|> +---------------
>|> | > [Michael the dark elf:]
>|> | >		And at the edge of hearing comes a pun:
>|> | >			"Steel bars do not a prism make."
>|> | >	
>|> | >		Not bad, but not the sort of pun the elf would Bragg
>|> | >	about.
>|> | 
>|> | "Please. You're grating on my nerves."
>|> +---------------
>|> 
>|> Utterly bar-bar-ic.
>|> 

>    " 'Bar-Bar Anne ! Bar-Bar Anne ! A rocking and a rolling
>    Bar-bar Anne !' Yes folks, that was the Beach Boys down on
>  the beach singing their hit 'Bar-Bar Anne !' " NickD. the DJ :-)  
>-- 

"THAT'S NOT FUNNY" splutters kitten, who is Real Life (tm) will answer
to the name Barbara Ann and who has been suffering from variations of
this song for YEARS....:)
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
Organization: Penn State
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 23:52:44 EDT
From: Renegade <RKR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Invisibility and Stupidity Continued
 <92105.233110AXM113@psuvm.psu.edu>

Renegade reappears after a fairly long absence, simply fading into the bar.
"on the matter of computer useage policies...here goes.  The new policy in
Atherton is courtesy of our very own pack of pet morons, the Atherton
Computer Committee.  In fact, the policy has apparently even reached the
highest levels; a note was recently put up from the administrator in charge
telling us that useage was not something to be reported to her, but
something to be handled by us. Sigh. Oh, a token useage report:
HDS: 7 avail:
3 unused
2 email
1 chat
1 real work

IBM's: 8 avail:
3 unused
1 netnews(me)
2 chat
2 real work

Mac's: 5 avail:
3 unused
1 TETRIS(ooh, bad boy, no more computer privileges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
1 real work

As for the "games eat disk space" argument, it won't wash; games on the
micros are on user-owned disks & the hard drives on the IBM's are swept
for illegal files at every boot; games on VM are in the user's 600k
allotment; games on Un*x are almost never seen.  Games do get costly,
as an avid mudder must admit, but if muds are the problem, why cut all
games?

The blame isn't on the ops, it's purely an administration thing;
Atherton doesn't even *have* ops in the normal sense. *sigh*

If I sound a wee bit annoyed, well, I am.  This is simply the
latest finals week computer control device, but this year they've
overdone it.

-Renegade the extremely annoyed(and soon to be ABEND at this rate!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Once again, Walker's back - for a time...
Keywords: Me!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:06:26 GMT


>Walker finishes his water and looks deep into the fire, a solitary
>tear falling to the floor.

>"To love, and love lost." *smash*  The pieces of glass look like
>stars in the firelight.  With a deep sigh, Walker turns and sits
>at his customary table, extinguishing the light.  Those nearby see
>him pick up a guitar that just happened to be sitting there, and
>start to play, slowly...

"and love found," says kitten to no one in particular....letting her
glass follow walker's into the fireplace.....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lindercs@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Galadin (Craig Linderoth))
Subject: Re: Bear's story (or Can't Children be Cruel)
Reply-To: lindercs@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:34:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.185732.3359@morrow.stanford.edu>, HF.TXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tonya Gonzales) writes:
>In article <kdvAIoG00awNQPPF4_@andrew.cmu.edu>,
>ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively) writes:
>>>So how about a big group hug
>>Great, I would love that.  Who else is in
>>
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>>"Mankind's primary responsibility consists of saying 'Go to Hell!' to
>>whomever they feel like and whenever they feel like."
>>Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ml5a@andrew.cmu.edu)
>
>You can definately count on me to join, I never turn down a hug!!
>
>TJ
	Galadin feels that a hug would do him good also.  And heck, why would
he ever turn one donw.



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*Craig Linderoth                * Reality is for People who Lack Imagination.*
*Lindercs@Rosevc.rose-hulman.edu*   The Callahanian Protector of People from *
*ChemEng, Rose-Hulman           *    Outrageous Pun Throwers    SPLAT :)     *
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: p65331727@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (The Artful Dodger)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: It Was A beautiful Day...
Keywords: Wonders may never cease
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:40:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Arty strolls into the place in his "Magnum P.I." mode - Hawaiian
shirt, jeans, and sunglasses.  Through the open door, the sun shines
warmly.
	"Mick, I'd like a sprite, no ice, por favor."  He drops a
handful of Mexican coins on the bar.
	"It's Mike."
	Arty takes his glass and walks to the phone.  "Radio Free Colorodo?
Tom Petty's 'Running Down A Dream,' please."
	As the first verse begins, Arty steps to the line and begins
to speak.  "It's spring here in Arizona - lows in the 60's, highs
in the 80's.
	"There's a woman I've been trying to get the courage to ask out
for several weeks now.  Last week I asked, she accepted.  
	"Yesterday I went and picked Kasy up.  We were going to go
eat dinner and see a movie, but as she got in the car, she said, 'It's
such a Beautiful day, let's just go for a drive.
	"We drove up to the Rincon mountains, parked, and watched the sun 
set.  There's an incredible feeling to watching a desert sunset - unlike 
anything I've ever felt anywhere else.
	"And, of course, the company didn't hurt any."
	Arty is silent for a moment, then drinks his sprite.  "To 
women who are really too beautiful to go out with computer nerds, but
do anyway!"

	>>CRASH<<


The Artful Dodger P65331727@CCIT.Arizona.Edu
"Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went arround giving people advice.
They killed him."
	-Anonymous history student
From: wlrjbl@usho23.hou281.chevron.com (R.J.Blake)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Keywords: Death, Renescance Men, etc.
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:23:12 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Apr7.030748.15921@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
|> In <6APR199209044074@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> p65331727@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (The Artful Dodger) writes:
|> 
|> >he prefers Mike, then stops.  "You look like someone died, Art."
|> >	"Someone did.  Dr. Asimov, one of the last Renasance men,
|> >died last night.  When I was a kid, Dr. Asimov was one of my favorite 
|> >science fiction writers.  Later, I read his factual works, and
|> >was enlightened.
|> >	"I understand he was rather annoying to know personally,
|> >but his works are wonderful."
|> >	Arty crosses to the line.  "To the Big 3 - Heinlein, Asimov,
|> >and Clarke - and all the wonderful things they gave us."
|> >	he chugs his sprite, and throws the glass in the fire.
|> 
|> kitten flings her glass into the fire after arty's...a tear sliding
|> down one cheek....
|> 

 Galdrin ap Morgan, having been off on three(3) days worth of Seminar, sees
a disturbing notice ... Asimov is gone ... and as he lovingly recalls all
the books on his shelf from his early formative, science fiction reading
days, he nods to kitten and Arty, sighs deeply at the loss of such talent,
and adds a glass of his own to the pile.

                                              Galdrin ap Morgan

-- 
Don't tell me it's not worth trying for. You can't tell me it's not worth dying
for. You know it's true, everything I do, I do it for you. Don't tell me it's
not worth fighting for. I can't help it, there's nothing I want more. I would
fight for you, I'd lie for you, walk the wire for you. Yes, I'd die for you.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 17:31:18 EDT
From: Thomas A. Gryn <TAG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Rhetoric: The End of Morality in Society (?)
 <rr9ieINN8bh@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Apr7.093518.24264@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

>In <rr9ieINN8bh@agate.berkeley.edu> erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen)
>writes:
>>Based on the assumption of the right to life.  Hate to break this to you,
>>but the right to life is merely an agreement by the populace that death is
>>fairly undesirable; the society which agrees to grant such rights maintains
>>the right to revoke them as well.  To assume that there are inalienable
>>rights outside the jurisdiction of humanity is to assume a higher authority,
>>which breaks another guideline of separating church and state.  Murder is not
>>wrong; it's just damn inconvenient to its victims.

Deepvoice says, "Ah, this is why I brought up the concept of "natural rights"
in my original piece. I would say that the right to life is inalienable
based on the fact that every civilization has had some
form of law or edict against murder of members of one's own group; this is
backed up by translations of the laws and codes recorded in some of the
earliest writings of humanity. If someone can come up with a civilization
which said "it's ok to indiscriminately kill other members of your group", I'd
love to hear it. A conclusion one can draw from this is that there is perhaps
more than just the social contract at work here.

Also, the separation of church and state is a fairly recent phonomenon as far
as state-forming goes. Whether it's right or wrong is, alas, a moral question.

And out of curiosity, how can a "right" be outside jurisdiction of humanity?

The abortion debate continues to rage in this country, with no sign of either
side being willing to come down off their ideological pedistals and figure out
a compromise on this issue. Is there a compromise? I believe so, but I don't
think the USA is ready for it yet. 'nuff said; there are better groups for
continuing that debate in if people wish to.

"Until you ask the question, you aren't ready to hear the answer."
                                                 - recovery saying.

Tom Gryn/Deepvoice....................tag2@psuvm.psu.edu
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Farewell!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:00:52 GMT

In <1992Apr15.140031.8243@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> gailj@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (gail.j.valentine) writes:

>Well, it's been fun...but work calls and cost cutting looms, and...

>So, I must unsubscribe.

>Best of luck to you all!
"oh no...." says kitten..."you will be missed.  come back when you can..."

--
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conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: most passionate of the Signs ???
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:58:57 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

JIM PIERCE writes
> 
>    "gee kitten, I thought it was the Cancer types that were the most
> passionate. After all, I read an article in a magazine that stated
> that women should pay more attention to Cancerian males. Most of them
> look rather plain, but if there was a video screen on a Cancerian
> male's forehead, more women would be interested in them. No joking
> actually. I did read the article, it was by 'Martine.' It appeared
> for one year and was called 'The Sensual Astrologer.' Ah yes, I
> like it. { Cancerian males don't stand up when introduced to a
> woman, because they already are. } My birthday is June 27."
>   NickD. { yes, I have a video... }

"I would think that most women would be turned off by men with video  
screens in their foreheads...but I digress.

"Well, as a Bastille Baby, and thus a Cancer, I'd have to concur...the  
fact that I remained a virgin till my wedding night notwithstanding."

--

---Alfvaen(and no, this isn't my real name!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
If you stand on your head, you will get footprints in your hair.
Current Album--Billy Joel:The Nylon Curtain
 "Laura calls me in the middle of the night."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Forbidden Planet [Re: All in a mouse's night... (part 1/3)]
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:04:18 GMT

> [Ignatz:]
>"`Return To The Forbidden Planet' [...] ... go! (And no excuses about it
>being in London, it's about to open in the States and Canada, and I'm sure
>Oz can't be far behind...) 

Danger Mouse speaks up, "I'm afraid that show has already opened here in
Sydney. I say 'afraid' because it played here last year, and the season has
now ended. I know some folks who saw it, but I never got around to it."

He takes a drink from his iced water reflectively. "I'm happy to hear that
your wedding is back on-line, Ignatz. I hope it all goes well."

- Danger Mouse.
From: test@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Months in songs (was Re: still playing Encore)
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:11:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

>How about this for a word... I only know one song that has it 
>in it, (I heard the singer in concert claim it was the only song
>in the english language, or probably any other with this word in it)
>
>	Exhume????
>
I can think of another song that uses that thought if not that word
directly.  Mandlebear, what is the name of the song with the refrain

   ....makes me a perfect wife

That Kanefsky did of Kathy's song Velveteen Rabbit?




I found myself. See? I'm right here!

Carole Parker
  e-mail: falk@sun.com with a Subject line: Mail for Carole
From: scm3775@tamsun.tamu.edu (Sean Malloy)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: most passionate of the Signs ???
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:53:23 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

The Brumby writes:
>   "If there were a video screen on my head I'd have been arrested years
>ago...."

CD smiles softly.  "I've been told that sometimes my mind is an open book.
And it often reads like a Victorian novel..."

-cd

-- 

   Sean C. Malloy    |  "You live & learn, or you   |  scm@tamu.edu 
Texas A&M University |   don't live long." - RAH    |  scm3775@tamsun.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu (Turner, Martha Axler)
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:21:43 GMT

In article <EdstCrC00Vp=MC9UQZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively) writes:

>
>>1)  A science fiction fan (we should have no trouble with this);
>>2)  A chemist;
>>3)  An historian;
>>4)  An English Lit type;
>>5)  A biblical scholar
>>6)  Several generalists (I can help out here, but can't hope to match
>
>Hmm I guess in me you have the biblical scholar.  I am barely proficient
>though  I am in the midst of reading the whole thing through, got boerd
>and stopped in psalms(i wish I could read it in hebrew translations kill
>poetry)  I am also a generalist in many ways, though still a rank
>amatuer in everything, beats nothing though.
>
>"But I don't want to be a hero and don't give me that ours is not to
>reason why stuff either."
>Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ml5a@andrew.cmu.edu)
>
Emter grins from her coner of the meadow. "Bear, my friend, I should
probably admit at this point that I've read a good part of the bible
in the original Hebrew. I still need the translation to understand it
all, but I can read Torah. (Aahz, you want to explain that one or should
I? :) ) Maybe we could share the honors?"

--Emter
From: seawasp+@pitt.edu (Ryk E Spoor)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: An Introduction
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:16:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>In article <1992Apr11.083559.8731@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>>I'm afraid I'm currently studying to be a lawyer."  Michael looks around nervously,
>>uncomfortably aware that recent popularity polls placed lawyers
>>somewhere between plague bacilli and members of Congress.

	The Sea Wasp speaks up. "Welcome, Michael. SOME lawyers are basically
decent -- besides, if you weren't I doubt Callahan would have let you through
the door.
	"But I do hope the order you meant, from most popular to least popular,
was Plague Bacilli, Lawyers, Members of Congress... the other order would show
that the public STILL doesn't conform to rules of logic. Not that they
ever did anyway...."

                                 Sea Wasp
                                   /^\
                                   ;;;

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From: MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu (Turner, Martha Axler)
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:18:56 GMT

In article <5_yjhvr.aahz@netcom.com>
aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:

>
>In article <167C82F50.MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu> MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu (Turne, Martha Axler) writes:
>>
>>Emter grins from her coner of the meadow. "Bear, my friend, I should
>>probably admit at this point that I've read a good part of the bible
>>in the original Hebrew. I still need the translation to understand it
>>all, but I can read Torah. (Aahz, you want to explain that one or should
>>I? :) ) Maybe we could share the honors?"
>
>After you, my dear Alphonse....
>--
>                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                             @netcom.com
>
Blushing a bit at having to explain herself, Emter tries to make her
explanation short. "Every week in most synagogues, or wherever Jews are
praying, they read in Hebrew part of the five books of Moses. You have
to be specially trained to learn the chants and to read the scroll
without vowels. For my Bat Mitzvah I learned how to read Torah."
--Emter
From: test@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re:  Names for call!
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:35:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <rik51INNbti@agate.berkeley.edu> erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen) writes:
>In article <9204032014.AA00244@bear.stonemarche.org> carrot@bear.stonemarche.ORG (Little red-headed girl) writes:
>>	Rachel looks up (hi everyone! it's been a while). "Well, I'm
>>thinking of naming my first daughter Freyja Cassandra... when I have one,
>>of course..."
>
>	The giant pulls up his chair.  "Freyja.  Now there's a pack of
>tales.  My fine Jotun heritage has many a tale concerning Freyja the Vanir
>cum Aesir Goddess of Love.  More than one of our kind made deals with
>treacherous Loki to secure her hand in marriage.  In one case, Thor dressed
>up in a wedding gown to impersonate her and win back his hammer, Mjolnir.
>Imagine the groom's surprise when the bride ate over three oxen all on her
>own!  And the drinking!  Indeed, Freyja is a name fraught with old, old
>memories....
>	"Not unlike Cassandra, Agamemnon's war-bride, slain by
>Clytemenstra.  She had the gift of prophecy, yet the curse of social
>invisibility."  The giant pauses and scratches his beard.  "Hmmm.  On second
>thought, this combination strikes me as generally trouble-bound.  Wouldn't
>you rather name her Frigga Elektra instead?  Hmmm.  Then again, I can't
>really think of any Greek names not associated with tragedy.  Stick with the
>Norse."
>
She could try Venus, for the goddess of love.  I don't recall any *major*
unhappiness with her! ;-)

I found myself. See? I'm right here!

Carole Parker
  e-mail: falk@sun.com with a Subject line: Mail for Carole
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: renglish@cello.hpl.hp.com (Bob English)
Subject: Not a property tax (was Mail from Bob English)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:06:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs

I have two questions about your distinction between "property" and
"natual value."

First...

hgm@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> It does not tax the improved value of resources only the natural value...
> To tax only the resource itself is to create incentives to use the
> resource efficiently.

This seems to favor consumption over conservation.  If I have a
"resource" and don't use it, I pay a tax.  If I convert it to "property"
(by cutting down a forest, for example), I eliminate the tax.

> To tax property is to create disincentives to work to increase
> the value of your resource.

How?

If I have $100 worth of economically productive property, and it's taxed
at 10% per year, I need to produce $10 of value from it every year just
to break even.  Since the property has value (someone would be willing
to buy it from me), I must be able to do better than break even, I must
be able to make a profit.  If I increase the value, that means I must now
be able to make a larger profit.  I pay more taxes, but only because the
property is more productive and can sustain a higher tax load.

--bob--