From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: Sex, Power and the Decline of the White American Male [LONG]
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 14:05:44 GMT

In article <SHAW.92Oct4204105@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu> shaw@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu (Andy Shaw) writes:
>
>One of the characteristics of race is that in _any_ society, being of a
>certain race is associated with a certain degree of power.  All things
>being equal, being white in America is an advantage to being Asian.  In
>fact, being white can be an advantage in certain ways in most countries in
>the world, because of the power (economic, political, military, cultural,
>etc.) associated with white skin in most countries in the world.
>
>  As one of
>Clare's black female friends articulated, "the best thing you can do for
>your child is to give it a white father".

  Got to set this straight.  A White Female friend who was dating an Asian
  male she couldn't hold onto said that.  A Black female friend said,
  "Go for the white boys, you can get them while we can't."  Both were
  trying to eliminate competition from Asian Females.  The White female
  wanted to make sure that Asian women would go out with White men.
  Ditto for the Black female friend (and therefore AAF stay away from Black
  men).  BTW, the white female friend lost her Asian American boyfriend
  to "some chick from Hong Kong.  Humph!" (what she said).
	
  If I misquoted them in a previous post, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
  I think I just strung all the quotes together, or something.
>
>I believe in the possibility of the relative decline of the white American
>male compared to the Asian American male -- this is not dogma, or bluster,
>or envy speaking, this is looking at the facts, and the evidence around me.
>It sure as hell hasn't happened yet, but the first batch has just come
>through.  Let's wait another ten years, and then see who's complaining, and
>who's saying stuff like "everyone has the right to date anyone they want".

  Well all the little girls, black to blonde to brown love my son and
  want to kiss him.  He goes around the neighborhood (19 months) taking
  his baby steps and saying "hi" to the little girls.  Some little girls
  threw balloons down for him from their window, and this blonde one (2
  year old) kept hovering around him trying to give him some candy.
  An older 10 year old want to take him home, and females (mostly white) of
  all ages always compliment his complexion (meaning color), and wishing
  their daughters or sons had his "natural tan".

  I didn't see any of the white male toddlers at this birthday party
  get any such attention.  Maybe at that age, they (the girls) already know my
  son is different.  We were the only Asian looking people there among
  Whites, Hispanics and Blacks.  Interestingly enough, Asian-looking
  baby girls don't seem to like my son or show any extra attention to him.
  Hmmmm....  Maybe they're lusting for the white male toddlers already.  :-)
>
>Secondly, the effectiveness of sexual equality may change sexual dynamics
>by making more and more women (of all races) in this country realize that
>they are not property, and thus allow them to make their sexual decisions
>based upon a more realistic view of their self worth.

  I don't think a lot of women think of themselves as sexual property.
  At least I don't.  And I am extremely annoyed at any man who thinks
  that thinks that way, regardless of his race.
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