From: rantonov@nyx.cs.du.edu (Roumen Antonov)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.engr.control
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: eeantono@pyr.swan.ac.uk (r b antonov)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:42:30 GMT

This is the second call for votes for an unmoderated group for
discussion of topics related to the theory and practice of control
engineering.  The request for discussion (RFD) was published about one
month ago, and the discussion surrounding the group's creation was
generally positive.  It's now time to put it to a vote.

NAME:
    sci.engr.control

STATUS:  
    unmoderated

CHARTER:

This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas
amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any
subject related to the practice or theory of control systems and
control engineering.

The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including
theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and
implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be

	o data definitions for control systems design packages
	o user interfaces for control systems design packages
	o system modelling languages
	o simulation packages
        o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control
	o the application of new computer science techniques
          in control systems design and implementation
	o commercial control systems design and analysis packages
	o new theories
        o applications of control (e.g. process industries, aerospace, 
          transport, manufacturing, ...)
        o real-time software
        o social and environmental impact of control systems
        o none engineering applications (e.g. economics, social, ...)
        o control systems education 

* One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software
systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and
implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the
development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will
eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based
tools.


* Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and
control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by
industry.
 

* A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication
barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to
introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their
horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of
ideas that other users of computers have known for some time.`



VOTING PROCEDURE:

  Send votes to me: eeantono@pyr.swan.ac.uk

  Preferably your message should include one of the following lines
  in the body of the text:

      I vote YES for sci.engr.control
      I vote NO for sci.engr.control

  We will be flexible in accepting other wording providing your vote 
  is made clear and unambiguous.  If we receive more than one vote
  from the same account;

    o If the votes are for the same side of the issue, We will
      count the votes as one vote. We will send email informing
      the voter that their vote is only being counted once.

    o If the votes are for opposite sides of the issue, We will
      throw out both votes. I will send email informing the
      voter that their vote is being discounted in this case.

  The voting period ends at 00:00 BST (01:00 GMT) on Monday, Aug 31, 1992. 
  In order for your vote to be counted we must receive it before then.

COMMENTS:
  
  The guidelines for successful creation of a new newsgroup require
  that the vote taker receive 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and that
  the YES votes be at least 2/3 of all valid votes cast. We will post a 
  mass acknowledgement of votes received and further calls for votes at     
  approximately weekly intervals.


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To date I have received votes from 216 people. I tried to acknowledge
the receipt of each vote. However some of my replies were returned to
me by the mailer. If you have sent me your vote but haven't heard from
me please check whether your name is in the list below. If not, please
drop me a message.

Thank you!

Roumen

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       At 2 p.m.(GMT) on 12 August I have received votes from:  
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A M. Vann <A.M.Vann@uk.ac.bristol>
Ahmed Zaki <ahmed@ca.uwo.engrg>
Alan J. Laub <laub@edu.ucsb.ece.riccati> 
Alec Stothert <STOTH@za.ac.wits.ee.odie>
Alex Dommasch <alex@edu.utah.chem.fff>
Alex Stankovic <amstanko@EDU.MIT.Athena> 
Allan Longley <alongley@ca.UWaterloo.cape>
Ananda Kishore <kishore@edu.rice>
Andre Tits <andre@edu.umd.src>
Andrew Paice <adp101@au.edu.anu.deakin>
Armand Brucato <armand@com.boeing.ca.bcstec>
Art Krener <krener@edu.ucdavis.math> 
Austin Spang <spang@com.ge.crd.macgw1>
BLACKWELL@GOV.NASA.ARC.FIL
Banavar Sridhar <banavar@gov.nasa.arc.netra>
Barry Haynes <brh@uk.ac.leeds.elec-eng>
Bernard Adrian Frankpitt <frankpit@edu.umd.src>
Bibhuti Bhusan Banerjee <bbb1s@EDU.Virginia.seas.kelvin>
Bjorn Lindberg <blind@abbaut>
Bjorn Wittenmark <bjorn@se.lth.control>
Blessed Ballesteros <BBALLEST@EARN.UNORTEVM>
Bo G|ransson <bogor@se.kth.e.elixir>
Brad Wallet <bwallet@mil.navy.nswc.n40mp>
Bradley Dickinson <bradley@EDU.Princeton.ivy>
Brent R. Young <B.Young@AU.EDU.uts>   
Brian B. Young <young@edu.ucla.sscnet.tao>
Bruce Jackson <bjax@gov.nasa.larc.bjax>
C Y Wang <cswang@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
CHEN055@nz.ac.canterbury.csc
COLLIN MCCULLEY <V148RB5B@edu.buffalo.cc.ubvms>
Carl Rigney <cdr@com.kpc>
Charles Francois <francois@edu.mit.ai>
Charles Jacob Cohen <charles@edu.umich.eecs.zip>
Chin E. Lin <chinlin@tw.edu.ncku.iaa.ctsun1>
Ching-Long Wu <clwu@tw.edu.nthu.Uz>
Chris Jobling <eechris@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
Christer Hansson <cha@abbaut>
Christopher B. Lynch <chrisl@ca.ubc.ppc>
Christopher Mullins <cfm2h@EDU.Virginia.seas.fulton>
Chuck Eubank <chuck@edu.ufl.ee.comlab1>
Coman B T <coman@au.oz.uwa.ee.swanee>
D_SIMON <DSIMON@com.trw.nafb.atlas>
Dan_Jacobson@COM.ATT
Daniel Abramovitch <danny%com.hp.hpl.hpldya@uk.co.hewlett-packard.hpl>
Daniel Larsson <dlarsson@abbaut>
David Brumbley <BRUMBLEY@edu.uoregon.uoneuro>
David Jenkins <d_jenkin@uk.ac.edrc>
David Marshall <dmarshal@COM.Unisys.Reston.Stars>
Dean Redelinghuys <REDEL@za.ac.wits.ee.odie>
Diane Apgar <diane@com.isi> 
Don DeVoe <ddev@edu.umd.src> 
Donald Russell <drussell@ca.carleton.ccs>
Dorota Temple <temple@org.mcnc>
Ed McGuire <emcguire@com.intellection>
Edward Scott Meadows <esm@edu.utexas.che>
FYANG@edu.umass.ecs
Fong Kin Fui <engp1033@sg.nus.nuscc>
Fred R. Beck <beck@com.mmc.den.enterprise>
Geoff Allen <geoff@gov.inel.pmafire>
Gerry Roston <gerry@edu.cmu.ri.frc.frc2>
Goran Hagg <ghagg@abbaut>
Graham Pye <PYE@za.ac.wits.ee.odie>
Grant Grobbelaar <GROBBEL@za.ac.wits.ee.odie>
Hans-Peter Graenicher <envhpg@gov.lbl.epb9>
Hassan Saleh <salehh@EDU.ORST.CS.atlantis>
Huub Bakker <H.H.Bakker@nz.ac.massey>
Ian Harvey <eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
Ian R. Searle <ian@com.boeing.ds.hobbes>
Ian Richard Petersen <irp@au.oz.adfa.ee.routh>
Ike Stoddard <ias2033@com.draper.frontier>
JHCHEN@edu.utk.utkvx
James Dimos Dimarogonas <jdd1@edu.wustl.cec1>
Jamie Burnside <jwb@LLAN.bart> 
Javier C. Caballero <vax250@es.tid>
Jeff Joslin <jjoslin@ca.UWaterloo.kingcong>
Jeff deRienzo <jeff%zorro@edu.ulowell.ulowell> 
Jeffrey C. Kantor <Jeffrey.Kantor@edu.nd> 
Jeremy Ginger <j.ginger@au.oz.trl>
Jerzy Moscinski <sl_tempu@dk.dth.sl>
Jinghong CHEN <jchen@au.edu.gu.me.tomahawk>
Joel C. MacMurray <jcmac@edu.utexas.che.faulty>
Johan Pensar RT <jpensar@fi.abo.ra>
John Duffie <jbduffi@edu.clemson.eng>
John Edmunds <john@uk.ac.umist.csc>
John Harkin <jh@com.nbn>
John King <kingj@mil.af.aflc.oo.logdis1>
John P. Fletcher  <J.P.FLETCHER@UK.AC.ASTON>
John P. Havener <havener@COM.Kodak> 
John Phillips <John.Phillips@uk.ac.brunel>
John R. Dooley <jdooley@edu.uci.eng.maemaster>
John W. Eaton <jwe@edu.utexas.che>
John Watkins <watkins@edu.ohio-state.eng.ee>
John van der Hoek <jvanderh@au.edu.adelaide.maths.spam>
K A Edge <K.A.Edge@uk.ac.bath.gdr>
K.-C. Wen <kcwen@uk.ac.ee.ntu.edu.tw> 
Ken Cooke <kcooke@edu.washington.u>
Ken Hunt <ken@uk.ac.glasgow.eng.control>
Kenneth A. Loparo <kal4@Edu.CWRU.po>
Kenneth Holmstr|m <hkh@abbaut>
Kent Schnaith <kent@com.rosemount.rosevax>
Kim DeVaughn <ked01@com.amdahl.ccc.juts>
Kim LAW <EEKL@au.edu.newcastle.cc>
Knut Gundersen <kgunders@abbaut>
Kristinn Kristinsson <kristinn@ca.ubc.ppc>
Kwang-Lay Chen <chen@tw.edu.ncku.iaa.ctsun1>
L.Y.E.Cheung <L.Y.E.Cheung@uk.ac.bath.gdr>
Lawrence Robinson <lwr@gov.nasa.ksc.grumpy> 
Lih-Chyun S Shu <shu@edu.purdue.cs>
Looi Kwok Onn <elelko@sg.nus.nuscc>
Lou Russo <cpcd07@edu.rpi.ecs.vms>
M. Stote <stote@com.mmc.den.tomcat>
MCMURRAY,GARY V <gm26@edu.gatech.prism>
Magnus Rahm <mrahm@abbaut>
Magnus Rimvall <rimvall@com.ge.crd.macgw1>
Malcolm Good <mcg@AU.OZ.mu.mame.sungear>
Mandel, Jeff E <mandel@edu.tulane.tmc>
Mark E. Kotanchek <mek@edu.psu.guinan>
Mark Takacs <mtakacs@edu.washington.u>
Mark.McIntosh@CA.UVic.sirius
Martin Czigler <mcz@com.sarnoff.windo>
Martin Rickli <autass3@ch.ethz.nimbus>
Mats Andersson <matsia@se.lth.control>
Mats Molander <mm@abbaut>
Matt Fryer <matt@gov.lbl.largo>
Matt Wette <mwette@Gov.Nasa.Jpl.csi>
Meenan Vishnu <mvishnu@ca.uwaterloo.bcr4>
Mehmet M. Kayaalp <kayaalp@edu.smu.seas>
Micael Karlberg <bmk@abbaut>
Michael C. Grant <mcgrant@edu.stanford.rascals>
Michael Corvin <zwork@com.mmc.den.starfighter>
Michael Usher <miku@AU.OZ.su.ee>
Mike Branicky <branicky@edu.mit.lids>
Mike Caldwell <mike@gov.inel.pauling>
Min Chen <cschenm@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
N.Sundararajan <ENSUNDAR@EARN.NTIVAXB>
Nasser Abbasi <abbasi@com.dec.enet.star>
Netter Thomas <thomas@il.ac.weizmann.wisdom>
Ole Ravn <sl_ole@dk.dth.sl>
Per Erik Mode'n <pem@abbaut>
Peter J Turner <Peter.Turner@uk.ac.brunel>
Peter J. Boulay <pjb4288@edu.rit.isc.ultb> 
Peter Jansen <cwmpj@nl.rivm>
Phil Howard <pdh@com.netcom>
Philip Miller <pwm@edu.jhuapl.macaw> 
Pino Porciello <pino@ca.uwaterloo.steam>
Pranob Banerjee <Pranob_Banerjee@ca.ualberta.ucs.mts>
Prasad Padmanabhan <PADMANAB@edu.umass.ecs>
R. Jayakrishnan <jaykay@edu.uci.oac.orion>
R.Chaplin <R.Chaplin@nz.ac.massey>
RAI Ranjan <rairan@edu.toronto.eecg>
RAVI_GUDI@ca.ualberta.ucs.mts
RG CAMERON <R.G.Cameron@uk.ac.bradford>
Ravi Gopinath <gopi@edu.rpi.che.bequette>
Ravi Rajamani <ravi@com.ge.crd.ra>
Ravichandran (Sunmoon) <ravi@ca.UWaterloo.kingcong>
Reece Pollack <reece@com.twg.eco>
Richard H. Miller <rick@edu.tmc.bcm.ssctr.crick>
Richard Kulawiec <rsk@edu.upenn.circ.gynko>
Richard Yee <yee@edu.umass.cs.envy>
Rob Sherwood <rsherwoo@Gov.Nasa.Jpl.devvax> 
Rob Spence <spence@edu.uiuc.cs.gog>
Rob Stengel <STENGEL@EARN.PUCC>
Robert White <white@au.csiro.dmpe>
Roger Germundsson <roger@se.liu.isy>
Roger S Powell <Roger.Powell@uk.ac.brunel>
Ron Hatcher <rhatcher@gov.pppl.theory>
Roumen Antonov <eeantono@uk.ac.swan.pyr>
Russell Jones  <rwj@uucp.lucaec2>
Ryou Kondo <kondo@jp.ac.ibaraki.mech.akane>
SDEVARA1%POLYVM@edu.poly.vm
STEVE KAHNE <m21132@org.mitre.mwvm> 
Sascha Wildner <swildner@de.GUN.channelz>
Scott Morgan <scottm@ca.ubc.ppc>
Sheena MacKenzie <sheena@uk.ac.ed.chemeng>
Sian Hope <sian@uk.ac.bangor.sees>
Siva Prasad <VPRASAD@edu.utoledo.uoft02> 
Sridhar Venkataraman <sridhar@edu.asu.eas.enuxhb>
Steve Watt <steve@US.CA.SJ.wattres>
Syed Khaleel Ahmed <AHMED@edu.umass.ecs>
T Crummey <tom@uk.ac.bangor.sees>
T Fitzpatrick <fitzpat@uk.ac.umist.csc>
THARP@EDU.ARIZONA.ECE.HERMES
Taki Milionis <MILIONIS@za.ac.wits.ee.odie>
Teng-Tiow TAY  <ELETAYTT@EARN.NUSVM>
Tom Dickens <tpd6908@com.boeing.cfdd15>
Tom Meadowcroft <lush@EDU.MIT.Athena> 
Tomas McKelvey <tomas@se.liu.isy>
Tony Barr <tony@au.csiro.dwr.per>
Torbj|rn Andersson <toand@se.liu.isy>
Trevor Jackson <taj@au.gov.dsto.mod>
Ulf Olsson <uolsson@abbaut>
Vasnani <engp1262@sg.nus.nuscc>
Vaughan Roberts <mvr@au.csiro.dmt.mlb>  
WIGDOROW@za.ac.wits.ee.odie
Walter Santarelli <wally@uucp.polari>
Wei Ren <ren%EDU.Berkeley.control@EDU.Berkeley.ucbvax>
carla@EDU.UVM.EMBA.uvm-gen
e-Floyd B. Hanson <U12688@EARN.UICVM>
fenster@com.dec.enet.taveng
jlam@AU.EDU.unimelb.ucs.ariel
jmm@uk.ac.cam.eng (Jan Maciejowski)
jphilip%jphilip@edu.harvard.harvard
jtstaffo@edu.ncsu.eos 
jxl101@au.edu.anu.barton
koffley@mil.navy.nrl.nrlvax
m0039%tnc@NET.UU.uunet
macg@CA.trlabs
paulonis@COM.Kodak
pic@au.csiro.dmt.mlb
piovoso@com.dupont.dnet.esvax
robust@ch.ethz.nimbus
smith@edu.harvard.hrl
song@uk.ac.york.minster
thorn@edu.stanford.leland
umeca23@uk.ac.ic.ps
wkdurfee@EDU.MIT.Athena

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