From: c60a-ee@danube.Berkeley.EDU (60a Class Account)
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy Lives (flame the f**k out of Dwight) 
Keywords: asian, american, racism
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:21:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.063535.7899@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>Gee.  Look at what Mr. Chan, a Chinese-cu, is saying.  His parents want
>him to marry exclusively Chinese-ge.  (In fact, there are hordes of
>Chinese-cu Chinese-ge boys who want to marry only exclusively Chinese-ge.)
Geee, look what Dwight Joe (a wanabe Caucasian, as he has tried to hide
his Chinese origins by changing his last name to "Joe")
<start massive flamecannon.... sorry for those who have to suffer
through this.  I've tried to avoid reading Dwight's crap, but, well
someone wrote to me, and this post was mentioned, so I went back 
just to see what the heck was going on. End Disclaimer>
I find it incredibly hypocritical that a Chinese-ge attempts to be
Caucasian-ge, by condeming Chinese-ge exclusively, and trying to
hide this hypocrizy by comdeming Chinese-cu in general. (fuck, now
I'm using those suffixed which I thought are very demeaning... oh
well... to kill a dog, you have to bark, not meow)  Now, I can 
sense the utmost frustration as this Chinese-ge realizes that no 
matter what he tries to do, he will never be Caucasian-ge.  So, first
off, he condemns Chinese-cu, hoping that by siding with the Caucasian-cu,
they might take him in as one of there own.  However, did he ever realize
that -cu can't influence -ge?  Well, sure, he attempts to tell us all 
that (in fact, that was why he came up with these suffixes in the fist
place).  However, what do I see him trying to do?  Become Caucasian-cu
(or anti-Chinese-cu) inorder to become Caucasian-ge (or non-CHinese-ge)

So, Dwight, what did _your_ parents do?  Did your dad molest you when
you were young?  Did your mom drop you on the ground head first when
you were a baby?  (I can go on on this thread, but won't to save those
with sensitive ears.... you know where I'm getting at, and I can get
much more graphic if needs be.... but, "Duck Chun Geon Chec"  or
'know when to stop, once your point has been made'.)  Obviously,
Dwight here doesn't knkow when to stop.... since all he does is repeat
one basic preconception over and over, even if the thread has nothing
to do with him nor his preconceptions.
(damn, lost my train of thought... oh well, was never good at flaming)

Funny thing is, Dwight, all you are good for is the infrequent massive
flaming... I don't read your post anymore because you just say the
same thing over and over again, and I'm sick of it.   Dwight, are you
ever gonna say anything else, or is this obssession of becoming
Caucasian-ge so instilled in you because of childhood-trauma that you
can't think of anythign else anymore?
	CHINESE-CU is EVIL
	CAUCASIAN-GE is GOOD
	WAR IS PEACE
	SLAVERY IS FREEDOM
	<shit, I always forget one out of three>
>
>Amazingly, although hordes of Chinese-cu appeared out of nowhere
>to condemn Caucasian-ge men (on s.c.a.a.) for preferring only Oriental-ge
>women, none of those same Chinese-cu have even once condemned Mr. Chan's
cicT&|{.>parents (or the hordes of Chinese-cu Chinese-ge boys who prefer only
>Chinese-ge women) for wanting their children to marry only Chinese-ge.
>
F**K,  should I even try to be sane in countering this bullshit?
<takes a valium...this is definitely bad for Billy (me) before a final>
Look, Dwight the moralmeister, let's take a Dwight-like view on Caucasian-cu.
The Caucasians-cu don't know shit about respect.
They don't call their parents in respoect, no they use their first names.
They don't give a shit about their wifes, look at the high devorce rate
	(but wait, aren't Asian divource rates on par with Caucasian?
	Doesn't matter, I'm taking a Dwight-like view, remember?)
They're slimy bastards who don't know shit about culture, just look at
	them, going after Chinese-ge females because "They're easy"
	Easy for what?  Easy to get into bed, because that's all Caucasian-cu
	wants... F**K F**K and then more F**King.
<Still in Dwight mode>
Again, let's get back to my original point.
(1) Caucasian-ge men who prefer Chinese-ge women
(2) Chinese-ge men who prefer Chinese-ge women
Why do Caucasian-ge jerks see no problem with #2 but think that #1 is
normal?

>Again, let's get back to my original point.
>(1) Chinese-ge men who prefer only Chinese-ge women
>(2) Caucasian-ge men who prefer only Chinese-ge women
>Why do Chinese-cu jerks see a problem with #2 but think that #1 is 
>normal?
>
>Various Chinese-cu jerks have come onto this forum to present their
>pseudo-intellectual arguments.  They claimed that #2 is wrong because
>their preference is not based on sound reasoning; in other words, if
>a Caucasian-ge male cannot provide a rational basis for his attraction
>to Chinese-ge women, then he is morally depraved, according to the Chinese-cu
>jerks.
<still in Dwight mode, in case you're lost>
Various Caucasian-ge-wannabe jerks have come onto this forum to present
their psuedo-intellectual arguments.  They claimed that all Chinese-cu
are evil wife-beaters who can't get any.  They claimed that all C-cu
are impotent whimps who deserves to have their women taken away from 
them.  So, let's look at this in a Darwinian-point of view.  
(1) Survival of the Fittest
(2) Only the strong gets to f**k.
Why does it seem like that the Chinese-ge have a problem with (1) and (2)
when the Caucasian-ge have no gripes?   Could it be because the
Caucasian-ge _are_ superior?  I mean, that's why I want to be Caucasian-ge
in the first place.  Because I think they're superior, and with the
trend I see (AF/WM) I wish I was Caucasian-ge too.  Why?  Because all
ALL Chinese-ge are losers, that's why.
<getting out of Dwight Mode>
Sheads new light on mister Dwight I hope.
>
>Well, just what kind of sound reasoning do Mr. Chan's parents have?
The kind that you lack, my friend.

>Huh?  They don't have any sound reasoning for preferring a Chinese-ge
>daughter-in-law.  The only justification that they offer is:
>"I just want my son's wife to be Chinese-ge."  So what?  What kind of
>justification is that?
Justification is this.... Damn, I might have to go back to Dwight mode...
I'll resist.  They want to be able to communicate with my wife.  They
want to have a daughter-in-law who understands them.  The only way this
can happen is for me to marry someone similar to them.  The only way
this can happen is through marrying an AAF.  Why do they think that way?
Because they've suffered under White-men's rule when they were young.
Because British Caucasian-cu's went in and pillaged our country with
their superior Weapons and inferior morality.  Because they took away
our pride in being Chinese.  But guess what?  We don't deny our Chinese
ethnicity, unlike some people, and we don't condemn Chinese-cu out
of hand.  We don't generalize about Chinese-cu and it's evilness.
We don't even generalize about Caucasian-cu and it's evilness.
We just say, they're nice people, sure, but we'd rather marry our own
people.
>
>But naturally, Chinese-cu jerks think that this is okay and normal.
>(What a bunch of hypocrites!)  Don't believe me.  Go back over the last
>50 or so posts to this group; not one of those posts accuses Mr. Chan's
>parents of being morally depraved.  However, if you go back to those posts
>about Caucasian-ge men, you will find that many of those posts denounce 
>Caucasian-ge men (and Chinese-ge women who go out with them) as being morally
>depraved.
HEY, Are you that much of an imbecile or do you not realize this is
Soc.culture.asian.american.  Take a good look at the name. ASIAN AMERICAN.
Dwight, Mr.Caucasian-ge who thinks like the Nazi's, out to destroy all
Chinese-ge out of hand, GO BACK TO soc.culture.KKK.
>
>Such incredible hypocrites!
SUCH INCREDIBLE STUPIDITY....no wonder you're <nah.....nothing about the
farm at this point... I know many very nice people down at the farm....
plus, School rivalry's only fun during BigGameWeek>
>
>So, why the hypocrisy, you ask?  Well, what's really bothering
NOPE, WE DIDN"T ASK.
>these Chinese-cu boys is that they think that they own Chinese-ge women
>simply because they are Chinese-ge.  They are horrified that "their"
>supply of Chinese-ge women is being diminished by the Caucasian-ge men.
>That's the essential truth of the matter.
What's really bothering one Chinese-ge boy is that he thinks that the
Caucasian-ge own everything, and that simply because he is CHinese-ge,
he won't get any.  So instead of changing the problem, he tries to become
one, by attempting to become Caucasian-ge.  He is horrified that Chinese-ge
supply of women _is_ being diminished by the Caucasian-ge men, so he 
tries to become a Caucasian-ge "man".  That, is the essential truth of the
matter.

<END FLAMING>
Sorry folks, had to do this.
Sorry about the bandwidth, but it's just 10% as much noise as Dwight
usually puts out anyway, so my contribution to the noise is almost
insignificant.

Dwight: Commit suicide, and I hope next time, for your sake, you become
	Caucasian-ge.

Disclaimer: The above ideas/comments/etc. were presented by one Chinese-ge
	Chinese-cu who has gotten sick and tired of hearing one Chinese-ge
	Caucasian-ge/cu wanna be attempt at every thread to disrupt that
	thread of discussion with his one-sided stubborn ideology.  
	Regular rational thinking (if there is any) will return to me as
	soon as my OCHEM final is over with (I'm on the borderline range)
	and the stress is gone.
Again, sorry about the bandwidth.
Probably should've mailed this instead of posted it.

Billy H. Chan    <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>  
posting from c60a-ee@danube.berkeley.edu because he had to go back to
find this post.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american