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From: jf@edv6000.tuwien.ac.at (Josef Fritscher)
Subject: Re: Can't get xdm to work - help wanted
Keywords: xdm
Reply-To: fritscher@edvz.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:51:21 GMT

Seems, that this becomes a FAQ ...

In article <alb.24.716133148@uvm.edu>, alb@uvm.edu (Allan L. Bazinet) writes:
|> Would some kind soul please explain to me how to get xdm to work on AIX 3.2,
|> X11R4?  The documentation is sketchy, and the support center doesn't do
|> X windows, apparently.  My local SE does them even less :).

You need to get the MIT X11R5 or X11R4 first. Then you can set-up the
X-terminal configuration with smit (don't forget the xdmcp part).
The next part is some editing in /etc/xdm_st_mgr/x_st_mgrd.cf file to 
delete the aixterm login window part (the pclient things).

|> 
|> Basically, I've got the daemon running, and all of the config files are in
|> /usr/lib/X11/xdm.  I have no entries in my Xservers file, as the system in
|> question is a fileserver, and our Xterm 130's do XDMCP.  From my 
|> understanding of the manpage, I don't need any entries with this 
|> configuration.

That's right, but xdm-config and Xsession need some adoptions to your system.

|> 
|> I get a login window, and the login authentication works fine.  However, 
|> after a successful login, there is a pause, a blink, and the login
|> screen is presented again.  This can be repeated any number of times.

What you see is pclient fighting with xdm ...

|> 
|> My config files are very plain-vanilla.  Rebooting the @#$%@% Xterm every
|> time I log out is getting very old indeed; I'd like to get xdm working.
|> 
|> -------------------------------------
|> Allan Bazinet, University of Vermont
|> 'We look for things -- to make us go.'

A good session manager to use is sm from the X11R4 MIT contrib ...

- Joe
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From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Re: User ID parameter in smit user
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:37:18 GMT

SYD.FARBER@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Syd M. Farber") writes:
>Does anyone know the size of the User ID field?  I am trying to create a
>meaningful unique User ID number for all users.  SMIT will allow me to
>enter a number greater than 64k but backup will not backup any files or
>directories owned by a user with a User ID greater than 64k.  Is this a
>limitation or a problem?
>
>thx,
>    syd.farber@office.wang.com

/usr/include/sys/types.h says it's an unsigned longword.  My guess then
would be that backup is not compatible with the way the system handles
user id numbers (sounds like backup uses short or unsigned short).

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From: dave@netcom.com (David A. Lee)
Subject: What is wait time  in sar and vmstat
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:26:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I am currently testing 2 versions of database software for our product
and the results are somewhat confusing.  After running a sample test
for an hour with exactly the same environment with the 2 versions of the
database, I look at vmstat and sar for the duration of the tests.
The results are that the new version uses about 30% more user CPU time
but 400% less wait time, resulting in a 100% increase of idle time.
(idle from 25% to 50%, wait from 40% to 10%).

The problem is that I cannot find a good description of exactly what
wait time is. "Normal" unix systems have only user,system, and idle.
Aix describes wait time (in man vmstat) as cpu cycles checking for 
IO to complete.  Does anyone know exactly what this means?  Are 
wait cycles time when the cpu isnt doing useful work?  Why is the
kernal polling for IO complete instead of putting the process to sleep
and waking it up when the IO completes?   If I have software (call it DB3.0)
that uses  say  25 Idle, 40 Wait, 25 User, 10 sys, and a
software (call it DB3.1) that uses say 50 idle 10 wait 30 user 10 system,
do I really have 25% more cpu time to spare for other processes? or 
is wait time also usefull time? (say wait+idle == Really Idle).

If anyone really knows what is going on here, please, please let me know.
We need to decide (very soon) if it is worth the extra user time used
to give us more idle time.

Thank you very much.
Please email response to 
	dave@netcom.com,
or post to newsgroup.

 
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From: fuzzy@obelix.ncs.mainz.ibm.com (Thomas Braunbeck/131000)
Subject: Re: pcsim questions / bugs
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:46:20 GMT
Reply-To: braunbec@Mainz.IBM.de
Organization: IBM Germany, AIX Support Germany

In article <lat2rdINN2ko@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, moore@cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore) writes:
|> 1.  Why can't I print out the pcsim man page from within info explorer?
|> Every time I try to do so, I get:
|>
|> info Warning
|> ARTPRT 0575-610
|> Cannot print article
|>
|> printing works for other man pages.

Call defect support and get the ptfs u403147, u403148 and u403153

Best regards,   Thomas Braunbeck
AS Software Service AIX, Germany

        All the opinions expressed are my own and
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From: ghawkins@alias.com (Gerry Hawkins)
Subject: Re: PTF hell
Organization: Alias Research, Inc., Toronto ON Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:41:10 GMT

In <1992Sep14.175026.10325@msc.cornell.edu > lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746) writes:
>
> Yes, I love the "version number format with enough digits to keep track 
> of the federal deficit, 90% of which are always zero, especially if the 
> product is actually a different version." I mean, fercrissake, all the 
> _3.2.2_ updates are numbered _3.2.0_. What kind of Drain Bamage does 
> that take!?!? Did someone lobotomize the entire version-numbering 
> department between designing the system and handing out numbers?
> 
> "Oh, no, sir, we can't use those digits yet. We haven't run out of
> numbers to put after the `U'..."
> 

Speaking of version numbers has anybody found a 'nice' way to determine
what OS level you have. We normally used uname -r to receive this
information. I would have expected that IBM would do this as well. So
far the only suggestion they have come up with is to do an lslpp and
read off all the applied PTFs.

If I run uname -r on our AIX 3.2.2 system I get "2". When we were at
3.2.1 we still got "2"! Not to mention any other three letter
workstation companies by name but running the same command else where
generates output like "4.0.5" or "4.1.1".

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From: olo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Lee Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: K&R C on the RS/6000(?)
Keywords: C
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:38:45 GMT
Reply-To: olo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Lee Thomas)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: olo@pooh.cc.utexas.edu


Hello,

I was woundering if there was a way to tell cc or xlc to use strick
K&R C rather than ANSI C.  I am trying to compile GRASS on our 320H and
we have been having a bunch of problems.  The authors of the software
suggested that we compile with the K&R flag.  I know there is one in the
GNU C, but I could not find one in the C documentation from IBM (Info).

Any ideas?

Thanks!

-Lee Thomas
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From: dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (John DeDourek)
Subject: Shutdown problem on diskless/dataless -- summary of responses
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:48:00 GMT

I had previously posted a request for information on a problem with
shutting down diskless/dataless machines using shutdown -F.  The
shutdown would hang after tcpip daemons were killed, network interfaces were
brought down, and an attempt was made to remove tcpip lock files.

The hypothesis was that attempting to remove lock files, which would
be in the root file system for the diskless machine, and therefore
contained on the server, would undoubtedly fail if attempted after
the network interfaces were brought down.

haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch 

replied that he had encountered the problem
and suggested modifying /etc/tcp.clean to not bring down the
critical network interface.

jf@edv6000.tuwien.ac.at

reported that the problem occurred for him on /usr clients and with
"other" shutdown commands.  The other shutdown commands were not
identified, possibly shutdown with options other than -F

The ibm support line replied that this was known problem IX24134
and that the fix for AIX 3.2 was U404957, which is on its way to
this site.

dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
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From: mtimm@auk.UWaterloo.ca (Martin Timmerman)
Subject: Re: Need graPHIGS example program
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:51:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep04.203216.34686@watson.ibm.com> schultz@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In article <Bu2Hqq.5vL@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, mtimm@auk.UWaterloo.ca
>(Martin Timmerman) writes:
>|> We have a user that is in need of an example FORTRAN program that
>|> creates an image on an RS/6000 Model 220 with a Gt1 graphics card. The
>|> program should use the graPHIGS library.  Does anyone have such a
>|> program to share?
>|> 
>
>There are sample programs in the /usr/lpp/graPHIGS/samples/samp
>directory.  Some of them are written in FORTRAN.
>
I am actually doing this second-hand for someone who does not have net
access, so we still need more help:

Thanks for the quick reply .... I spoke with user and he has investigated
the samples and has found that the samples use structures when writing
to the screen rather than pixels. Can you place one more request to the
User Group to see if we can get a sample program (C is fine) where pixels
are written to the screen. Thanks again.
From: scott@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: AIX malloc and fault tolerance
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:22:08 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: scott@porter.austin.ibm.com


>In article <1992Sep3.135156.9166@medtron.medtronic.com> sh0001@israel (Scott Hansohn) writes:
>
>Further, I have had processes receive SIGDANGER when only one of two paging
>spaces on the system was close to filling.  It seems that if >any< page
>space on an AIX box gets close to being full you get the SIGDANGER, even if
>there are other paging spaces with lots of room left.  Yikes!  So much for
>the performance advantages of spreading the page space across spindles!

This shouldn't happen.  You should only get SIGDANGER or SIGKILL when the
TOTAL paging space runs low.  It might be that one of your paging spaces
wasn't activated.


Scott L. Porter                         IBM PSP Austin / AIX Kernel Development
                                        Internet: scott@glasnost.austin.ibm.com
From: ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org (Andreas Kaiser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: NTP on RS/6000 - anyone got it working 
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 01:19:15 GMT
Organization: ananke


In article <1992Sep01.155314.17025@kronos.com> richb@kronos.com writes:

  > We've been running an experimental version on two of our RS/6000s for the
  > past couple of months.  The University of Delaware is the maintainer of
  > NTP, and that's where I got this version.  Their anonymous ftp server
  > no longer has the file I downloaded; I'm not sure which version to use.
  > There is a brand new distribution in udel.edu:/pub/ntp/xntp3.tar.Z, and
  > I'll bet that includes RS/6000 support:  take a look there.
  > 
  > In answer to your question, yes, there is a "bizarreness" about AIX
  > which requires special support.

I found a file with this name of the local University. It is located in
the AIX 3.2 directory, but I have some doubts about AIX 3.2 compliance,
since the unixclock part requires the kernel variables "_tick" and
"_tickadj", which aren't there (tick) or seem to have a different
meaning (tickadj). Ok, I replaced the code by sysconf(...CLK_TCK) and a
tickadj of 1usec (restimer says it's 256nsec). It now no longer exits
immediately, but I've not get time synchronization yet.

Can NTP be used to synchonize clocks without having a radio clock? NTP
tells me the server has a level of 16, maybe the client refuses to
synchronize to such a beast?

I know that timed runs fine on AIX but we have some Intergraphs with
NTP but without a timed and without a compiler.

		Gruss, Andreas
  
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: more on PTF hell
Keywords: U403376 U403377 U403378 U403380 U403381
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:17:47 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Sep15.120620.2323@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (John DeDourek) writes:
>
> I am not sure what information you are looking for about these PTF's.
> What I usually want to know first, is what they are supposed to fix.

Well, I seem to recall an option in SMIT called "List All Problems
Fixed by Software on Installation Media".  Just type
`smit instupdt_list_problems'.

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From: danp@osf.org (Dan Powers)
Subject: Re: FTP, etc running very slowly!
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:53:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.071024.2621@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.ed (Charles Hannum) writes:
|> 
|> In article <17bp3gINNj9p@agate.berkeley.edu> dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu
|> (Dan Cook) writes:
|> >
|> > I have noticed since I upgraded to AIX 3.2 that all my network
|> > interfacing type of processes [...] run very slowly...
|> 
|> Once again:
|> 
|>   mycroft@hal [1]; lscfg -l ent0 -v
|>     DEVICE            LOCATION          DESCRIPTION
|> 
|>     ent0              00-02             Ethernet High-Performance LAN
|>                                         Adapter
|> 
|>           Network Address.............XXXXXXXXXXXX
|>           ROS Level and ID............0027
|>           Displayable Message.........802.3/ETHERNET
|>           Part Number.................071F1182
|>           EC Level....................C73857
|>           Device Driver Level.........00
|>           Diagnostic Level............00
|>           FRU Number..................081F7913
|>           Serial Number...............XXXXXXXX
|>           Manufacturer................204491
|> 
|>   mycroft@hal [1]; 
|> 
|> Note the "ROS Level and ID".  If it's less than 14, tell your CE you
|> need an update.
|> 
|> Older machines tend to have ROS level 9, which barely works even under
|> 3.1.
|> 
|> Usually you'll get several hundred errors like this:
|> 
|>   ERROR_ID TIMESTAMP  T CL RESOURCE_NAME  ERROR_DESCRIPTION
|>   DB3E3DFD 0825030792 P H  ent0           CSMA/CD LAN COMMUNICATIONS LOST
|>   ABB81CD5 0825030792 T H  ent0           COMMUNICATION PROTOCOL ERROR
|> 
|> per day (or hour).  This is definitely a sign that something is wrong.
|> 
|> 
|> Speaking of which, I get these under 3.2 with the above hardware, even
|> though I haven't actually observed any problems.  But that's another
|> story (I think)...
|> 
|> -- 
|>  \   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
|>  /\  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!


With a ROS level of 27 you may still want to contact the IBM defect Support
and reference PTF# U403045 for a long term fix. This may not be your problem
but it is referenced in the IBM Notice to Licensees.

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From: dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (John DeDourek)
Subject: Help: syntax error in mkdclient
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:04:13 GMT


Help.  I have an RS/6000 model 320 running AIX 3.2, with, I hope, all
necessary 3.2.2 PTF's applied for using it as a diskless server.  I
am trying to install my first diskless client, a RS/6000 model 220.

I am following the procedures in IBM AIX Version 3.2 for RISC System/6000
Installation Guide, Chapter 10 Diskless System Installation.  I am using
SMIT.  I am using the server's /usr as the SPOT.  At Step F. Add a Diskless
Client, after filling the "Add a Diskless Client" screen and pressing
enter, I get:

/usr/sbin/mkdclient: Syntax error at line1: `mkd_11=' not expected

I placed a call to support late Friday afternoon, September 4, but it was
too late to get a response during working hours on Friday, meaning I won't
hear from that avenue until Tuesday morning September 8.  This is for
a lab for a course which starts Monday, September 14, so I don't have
a lot of time.

If anyone reads this on the weekend and knows what I did wrong, I would
appreciate a reply to dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca so that I can
make some progress on the weekend. Thanks.

John DeDourek   dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
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From: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch (Konrad Haedener)
Subject: Re: xlc for RS6000 -O flag
Followup-To: <1992Sep8.151029@axion.bt.co.uk>
Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:34:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.151029@axion.bt.co.uk>, jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Can anyone help?
|> 
|> Are there any known bugs with the optimisation feature on
|> xlc (AIX 3.2).  When compiling on one particular file,
|> the compiler appears to "hand" for 10 minutes.  When I
|> inspect memory usage, it shows that AVM is being used at
|> a very high rate, during the last few minutes, the process
|> is only slowed by the pagin in and out of memory!
|> 
|> The compilation eventually fails with the message 
|> "compilation failed - out of space" (or something like that).
|> Meanwhile, the server warns it is low on paging space.
|> Obviously, there is something in this file which causes the
|> optimiser to fail - I have no idea what it could be.  There
|> are no tight loops - help would be appreciated.
|> 
|> Post or E-Mail.
|> 
|> Jon

get xlccmp 1.2.0.13, it solves this problem.
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From: lpc@dickens.com (Luis P Caamano)
Subject: InfoExplorer Background Color
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:26:48 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.
Keywords: InfoExplorer Color Background

Does anybody know what's the magic line to add to my .Xdefaults
to change InfoExplorer text window background.  I've added 
info*background*: but it only changes the menu bar background.

I really need to get rid of that white background.

Thanks in advance for your time on this.

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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Lisp interpreter availability...
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:01:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep6.160159.6783
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Sep4.154647.18102@dickens.com> keith@dickens.com (Keith
Devlin) writes:
>
> Does anyone know of a public domain Lisp interpreter available for
> the 6000?  Does not even have to be a Lisp compiler, just an
> interpreter.

The interpreter portion of MIT Scheme is reputed to work under AIX.

There's also Austin Kyoto Common Lisp, which contains a Lisp-->C
compiler, but I don't think it's been ported to 3.2 yet.

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From: kstailey@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Stailey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Core File Question- Who created it?
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:39:23 GMT
	<1992Sep8.143420.21935@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: /kstailey/.organization

In article <1992Sep8.143420.21935@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> marc@yogi.austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson) writes:

>There are lots of ways to look at the core file to determine who dumped core -
>my favorite is to run dbx on anything.  dbx will identify the name of the 
>program which dumped (unless the program matches the core file).
[stuff deleted]
> By the way, the information is indeed in the ld_info structure - the "execed"
>program name is found in the first ld_info structure (in the ldinfo_filename
>field (described in /usr/include/sys/ldr.h)) pointed to by the c_tab field
>in the core file header.  A program could easily be written to print out the
>name of the program - I just let dbx do it for me.

A faster approach is "od -c core | grep 0003460"

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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: What Does IBMR2 Mean?
Keywords: IBMR2
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:36:15 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Sep12.011601.10792@watson.ibm.com> gerth@watson.ibm.com
(John Gerth) writes:
>
> Unfortunately I do not know of any way to reliably distinguish
> between AIX 3.1 and AIX 3.2 however desirable that might be.

I don't know about 3.2, since I no longer have a machine running it
available, but under 3.2.1, `_AIX32' is defined.

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