From: james@Bridge.COM (James Montebello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 Privateer Trivia Answers
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:44:09 GMT
Organization: Bridge Information Systems
Originator: james@ignatz


Well, I certainly learned a few things with my "privateer" trivia
question. I learned you have to be *very* careful how you word
your questions :-). 

In any case, here are the answers, as best as the crack team of
researchers could determine.


 1) In what World Championship race was the greatest number of chassis
    from a single marque represented?

Mark Jackson provided the only answer to this one. 

>After review of my books on hand I believe that the record for starts by
>chassis from a single marque in one WDC race is twelve.  This has occurred at
>least three times:

>Germany 1956 (12 Maseratis)
>Great Britain 1960 (12 Coopers)
>United States 1960 (12 Coopers)

>In addition, I am almost certain that 12 Coopers started the British GP in
>1959.  One of my references says Jack Fairman did not actually start, but the
>others are quite definite in saying he did, retiring on lap 37.

>This last race counts a number of F2 cars, but as they were legal entries
>toward WC points (i.e. not run in a separate F2 section, as was done in 
>Germany on a couple of occasions) I see no reason to exclude them.  It was 
>also notable in that there were an additional *four* Cooper chassis present 
>that weekend which failed to qualify!

This was quite suprising to me. I expected a multi-way tie, but was
thinking more of 5-6 cars, not 12. I'd utterly forgotten how popular
Maseratis (I'm assuming these were all 250Fs) were during that period.

Good show, Mark.


 2) What was the most successful WC season for a non-Constructor team?

I failed to define "successful" or "non-Constructor" here, so this
question was quite open to interpretation. However, the consensus
centered around my first guess: 1969, Tyrrell, Matra-Ford. This was
the year Jackie Stewart won the World Championship (which is a pretty
good definition of "successful"). 

Tyrrell's team was running Matra's chassis, which they also did the
previous season. However, for this season, Matra failed to run their
own team and provided both the chassis and Tyrrell's No. 2 driver
(Jean-Pierre Beltoise), so Tyrrell could have been considered the
"works" Matra team.  Nevertheless, Tyrrell didn't build the chassis,
and therefore weren't part of the "Constructor's Cup", so they should
still be considered a "non-Constructor", if not a "privateer".

Nearly everyone *except* Mark answered this way. Mark brought up probably
the most successful "privateer" of the WC era, Rob Walker, whose best
seasons were 1958 (Cooper-Climaxes) and 1961 (Lotus-Climaxes) with two
wins each season, the '61 wins with Stirling Moss.

Given the controversial nature of the second question, and his excellent
answer to the first question, I give Mark Jackson the win. 
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