HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: 'Con*' Is Confused About Being Found: Living With An Illusion.
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:52:41 GMT






<Jul23.160248.52533@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)

>Considering that the Greek island of Kos is called Istinkoy by the Turks
>(eis ten Ko)...

And for a long time, zoologists pondered the purpose of your arrangement.

Take your pick.

1. 'Istimkoy.'
2. 'Islimkoy.'
3. 'Istemkoy.'


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
From: varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine)
Subject: Re: Olimpiyat
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:58:51 GMT

Please keep postings in Turkish in the appropriate groups.
This is soc.culture.greek NOT soc.culture.turkish
-- 
Constantinos Varnavas
University of Illinois
From: ko@cns.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Ozal'in Bir Cirkefligi
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:03:22 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp) writes:

>In article <1992Jul14.124009.19964@cns.umist.ac.uk> ko@cns.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven) writes:
>		[ ... ]
>>
>>Bu son Kardeniz konferansIndaki rezalet de yanlIS yansItIldI. Demirel'in
>>_Ozal'a bIraktIGI rol, devlet baSkanlarI imza atarken kenarda yanSma gibi
>>seyretmekti. Ya CaGIrmamalI, CaGIracaksa da her Ulkenin devlet baSkanI >dUzeyinde imza attIGI anlaSmayI _Ozal'a imzalattIrmalIydI. Burada sanIrIm >_inOnU sert CIktI

>Son derece yanlis bir yorum. Ozal Cankaya'ya secilmek istedigi zaman
>Turkiye'ye baskanlik sistemini getirmeye hevesleniyordu. Secildikten
>sonra bir sure de anayasa'ya aykiri bir sekilde o role soyundu.
>Demirel hukumeti ise Ozal'a haddini bildirmekte pek gucluk cekmiyor
>goruldugu uzere. Durum bundan ibaret.

YazInIzda (kUCUk bir bOlUmUnU aldIGInIz) yorumun 'yanlIS' 
noktalarInI gOremedim. _Ozal'In kOtU kalpli
olmasI, diktatOrlUk peSinde olmasI, Demirel'in had bildirmesi vs. 
bu konulara deGinmemiStim. YalnIzca sOz konusu olaydaki etmenleri
ve bunun basInda yansItIldIGIndan farklI bir gOrUnUmde olduGunu
vurguladIm. DiGer vurgulamaya CalIStIGIm da had bildirme / aGzInIn payInI
verme dOnemlerinin artIk geride bIrakIlmasI ve OnUmUzde bekleyen  
bUyUk sorunlara uzlaSmacI yaklaSImlarda bulunulmasI gereGinin henUz
tam olarak kavranamadIGIydI. Yoksa "en bUyUk kim" tartISmalarI bana ilginC
gOrUnmUyor.

Kutluk
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From: ccc@cs.toronto.edu ("Christina C. Christara")
Subject: Re: What is the origin of the name Istanbul?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:10:04 GMT

In article <3598@keele.keele.ac.uk> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
>From article <Jul23.160248.52533@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, by cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas):
>>>
>>>Do you have sources that support this?  My sources tell me it comes from
>>>'eis ten polin'.
>
>Reading an old English classics history book today I came across the
>variation "Stamboul". Any one any comments on how this might have
>arisen?
>
>Andy Fear, cla04@uk.ac.Keele

In the Greek language, the preposition "eis" (= "to" or "in"),
when in front of articles (ten or tan, to, ton, etc), loses
the first vowels and keeps the "s" connected to the article.
(e.g. sten or stan, sto, ston, etc.)
Therefore, Is-tan-polin and S-tan-polin are the same.

C. Christara
From: ugurdag@ces.cwru.edu (Fatih Ugurdag)
Subject: Olimpiyat
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:10:28 GMT

ARKADASLAR:
       NBC'NIN OLIMPIYAT ACILIS TORENINI BILMIYORUM KACINIZ IZLEDI. YINE
TURKIYE'YE KIN KUSTULAR. DUNYADA ADI IZI BILINMEYEN ULKELER VERILIRKEN,
TURKIYE'NIN GECISI SIRASINDA SADECE TRIBUNLER GOSTERILDI VE TURKIYE'NIN GECISI
HIC BIR SEKILDE GOSTERILMEDI. NE GUZEL BIR TESADUF DEGIL MI? BIZ MICHIGAN
STATE UNIVERSITY TURK OGRENCILERI OLARAK KINAMA KAMPANYASI BASLATIYORUZ. BU
OLIMPIYAT RUHUNA HIC BIR SEKILDE YAKISMAYACAK OLAYI KINAMAK ISTERSENIZ ASAGIDA
NBC NIN ADRESINI VERIYORUM. NBC OLIMPIYAT YAYINLARI SUNUCUSU BOB COSTAS'A
(ADINDAN NE OLDUGU BELLI) SAYGILAR!!!!

NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY (NBC)
30 ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEW YORK NY 10020
                                           YIGIT KAVURMACIOGLU

-- 
Fatih Ugurdag
Case Western Reserve University
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: What is the origin of the name Istanbul?
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:27:57 GMT





<3598@keele.keele.ac.uk>
cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)

>Reading an old English classics history book today I came across the
>variation "Stamboul". 

1. 'Islam bol.'
2. 'Istem bol.'
3. ...


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: teoman@milton.u.washington.edu (Teoman Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Olympics, Opening Ceremony, and Dirty Tricks
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:02:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul28.180208.19339
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul28.051130.33293@slate.mines.colorado.edu> hkarazin@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Turk) writes:
>
>	It is the opening day of 25 th Olympics in Barcelona and 
>	I am watching the opening ceremony. While I am watching it
>	sometimes I hear some countries that I haven't been aware of
>	in my life and blame myself by getting involved with the science
>	alot but not geography. I know right after Tunisia, Turkish
>	team will show up and I cannot wait to see them.
>	Speakers of the stadium started playing turkish songs and 
>	the anouncer said Turkiye but somehow - as if it was so urgent
>	to show the crowd at that moment - NBC started showing them there
>	in stead of our team. Was the director screwed up? Or was that
>	one of the dirty trics that have been pulled for decades?
>	I think some of the fellows in MSU noticed the same thing as
>	well as alot of people including people from other nations
>	here in Colorado. Personally I protested the behaviuor by 
>	calling NBC head offices that night. 
>	This is a shame for NBC, I think sports must be purified
>	from all sorts of dirty politics.
>
>	Hakan

I can't remember off my head but I was looking at the schedule
for the weightlifting and saw that Naim was going to be on NBC's
schedule after midnight... Now if this guy is the best weightlifter
the world has and is called the Pocket Hercules, then why is NBC
not showing it earlier in the day... of course on the Triple 
Broadcast they don't show him at all. I don't get the scheduling at
all. They show the other weightlifting before 12 on some of the other
days but his after midnight. 

Maybe my TV guide was wrong... Does anyone know when this is shown
Pacific Time? I think Eastern and Pacific time are the same schedule.

thanks
Teo
 
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From: hkanb@usho18.hou281.chevron.com (K.Anbarci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: The Truth Needs To Be Told Over And Over Again, 'Khachikian.'
Summary: Disbelieve
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:57:15 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Jul30.191534.19989@morrow.stanford.edu> berne@nova2.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.172419.8710@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie) writes:
>>In article <9207291754.A8208fP@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:
>>>
>>>During the years of World War I, the Armenian dictators have planned
>>>and perpetrated the genocide of the Turkish people 
>>
>>Mutlu, if you are representative of Turks in general, I wouldn't blame the
>>Armenians for their actions. 
>>
>Be careful! You  are hence assuming that Armenians genocided Turks!
>Don't let hbm's poisonous semen root in your brain!
>I agree with you on the general idea anyway...
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Berne, may I kindly ask WHAT IS THE GENERAL IDEA THAT YOU AGREE?
>
>Berne.


Kemal 

==================================================================
Regular disclaimers apply
=================================================================
  
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From: bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: What Makes Greeks So Different From Other Mortals? Lack Of Logic?
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:33:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul27.151019.1478@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras) writes:
>In <1992Jul20.034543.3864@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) writes:
>[...]
>>***** Question : What do you call the period 1571-1878 in Cyprus ?
>
>(Ottoman) Turkish Occupation.
>
>Just because contemporary Greece was occupied by Turks for 1-5 centuries,
>it does not mean that Greeks have to live under the Turkish rule
>again. Or does it?
>

You are twisting what I wrote. 

A Greek netter very funnily had claimed that Cyprus was NEVER UNDER THE 
TURKISH RULE so I replied by pointing out to a distinct period during 
which Cyprus WAS under the Turkish(Ottoman) rule.

and if you are very obviously implying that just because Cyprus was under the
Turkish rule once, it doesn't need to continue being under the Turkish rule,
(or a portion of it at least) all I can say is "Oh, well! We all wish things 
were different at times but they aren't!"


Besime Erin

>>Besime Erin
>--
>UUCP:      pef@qmw-dcs.uucp  | Computer Science Dept    | "H Rwmania
>Internet:  pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk | QMW University of London |  kai an
>JANET:     pef@uk.ac.qmw.dcs | Mile End Road            |  eperasen,
>Voice:     +44 71 975 5220   | London E1 4NS            |  anthei kai
>FAX:       +44 81 980 6533   |                          |  ferei kai
>Cellphone: Too expensive to fit                            allon"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: robbie@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au ()
Subject: Address in Istanbul
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:52:26 GMT

Hi all, Can anyone supply me with a FULL address for the botanical gardens
in Istanbul?

Many thanks, Robbie McDonald.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Subject: Re: What is the origin of the name Istanbul?
Organization: OSF Research Institute
	<Jul24.201126.53372@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:08:18

In article <Jul24.201126.53372@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:

   Kathareusa Greek: Eis tiv poliv.
   Dimotiki Greek:      Stiv poli.

Another remark on Istanbul vs. Stamboul:

1) Assimilation of `nb' to `mb' is very common.  It is standard in
   Turkish, and frequent in Modern Greek.  In fact, it is not uncommon
   to hear `stiboli' instead of the standard `sti poli' or `stin
   poli'.

2) The `i' may come from `eis', or it may come from the Turkish or
   Arabic pronunciation of `Stamboul', which adds an initial `i' to
   break up the consonant cluster.  My name in Turkish or Arabic, for
   instance, would usually come out as Istavros.

	-s

PS Constantine -- you might want to use phonetic rather than visual
   spelling conventions to make your Greek examples clearer.  Although
   `v' looks more like a `ni' than `n' does, it will no doubt mystify
   a non-Greek.
From: bilgin@pegasus.megasoft.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Kahribela....
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:31:23 GMT

deneme 1 2 3 4 5 6 $%@#$$%@#

B..

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Dedicated To Anti-Muslim/Turkish Individuals In The U.S. Congress.
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:31:13 GMT






Karabagh Survivors Flee to Mountains:

"Geyush Gassanov, the deputy mayor of Khocaly, said that Armenian troops 
 surrounded the town after 7 pm on Tuesday. They were accompanied by six 
 or seven light tanks and armoured carriers.  'We thought they would just 
 bombard the village, as they had in the past, and then retreat.  But they 
 attacked, and our defence force couldn't do anything against their tanks.'  
 Other survivors described how they had been fired on repeatedly on their 
 way through the mountains to safety. 'For two days we crawled most of the 
 way to avoid gunfire,' Sukru Aslanov said.  His daughter was killed in the 
 battle for Khodjaly, and his brother and son died on the road."
 Anatol Lieven
 The Times (London), 3/3/92

Corpses Litter Hills in Karabagh:

"As we swooped low over the snow covered hills of Nagorno-Karabagh we saw 
 the scattered corpses. Apparently, the refugees had been shot down as 
 they ran...Suddenly there was a thump...[our Azerbaijani helicopter] had 
 been fired on from an Armenian anti-aircraft post..."
 Anatol Lieven
 The Times (London), 3/4/92


Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: American Sources On The Armenian Genocide Of The Turkish People.
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:09:01 GMT




<1992Jul21.040214.1343@cs.anu.edu.au>
bdm@cs.anu.edu.au (Brendan McKay)

>Hilarious.
>Sorry to waste bandwidth, but I wanted to be the first
>with the correct answer.

Such quaintly charming 'McKays' of the jungle. Any comment?

Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, 
Inc., New York (1952).

p. 360.

"The ridges circled a wide expanse, its floors still. Hundreds of feet down,
 the fog held, solid as cotton flock. 'Djul lies under that,' said Dro,
 pointing. 'Our men also attack from the other sides.'

 Then, 'Whee-ee!' - his whistle lined up all at the rock edge. Bayonets
 clicked upon carbines. Over plunged Archo, his black haunches rippling;
 then followed the staff, the horde - nose to tail, bellies taking the
 spur. Armenia in action seemed more like a pageant than war, even though 
 I heard our Utica brass roar.

 As I watched from the height, it took ages for Djul to show clear. A tsing
 of machine-gun fire took over from the thumping batteries; cattle lowed,
 dogs barked, invisible, while I ate a hunk of cheese and drank from a snow
 puddle. Mist at last folded upward as men shouted, at first heard faintly.
 The came a shrill wailing.

 Now among the cloud-streaks rose darker wisps - smoke. Red glimmered about
 house walls of stone or wattle, into dry weeds on roofs. A mosque stood in
 clump of trees, thick and green. Through crooked alleys on fire, horsemen
 were galloping after figures both mounted and on foot.

 'Tartarski!' shouted the gunner by me. Others pantomimed them in escape
 over the rocks, while one twisted a bronze shell-nose, loaded, and yanked
 breech-cord, firing again and again. Shots wasted, I thought, when by
 afternoon I looked in vain for fallen branch or body. But these shots and
 the white bursts of shrapnel in the gullies drowned the women's cries.

 At length all shooting petered out. I got on my horse and rode down toward
 Djul. It burned still but little flame showed now. The way was steep and 
 tough, through dense scrub. Finally on flatter ground I came out suddenly,
 through alders, on smoldering houses. Across trampled wheat my brothers-in-
 arms were leading off animals, several calves and a lamb."

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: ernst@helmholtz.cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur)
Subject: Re: Turkish Historical Society's Newest Maneuver 
Keywords: Re: There Is No Need To Smile When You Cry, 'Sternlight.'
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:22:02 GMT


>>>I must say I appreciate the restraint of Armenians writing in
>>>this discussion. If I were an Armenian who had been mutlued,
>>>I'd probably have though seriously about acts best left unspecified.
>>>


>        Thank you, I must say that this restraint is not easy to sustain.
>Just as it would not be easy for a Jew to seriously discuss and prove that
>they did not kill the Nazis.

>        But one thing I do not appreciate is the silent majority in this
>newsgroup. This silent audience watching the degradation of this newsgroup
>into a sewage, tolerating this pathetic "historical" dialogue.

>        This is one of those cases when silence is considered to be
>a bad choice to make.

Being a member of the "silent majority", I beg to differ. I believe
that the best choice to make is keeping M. in the kill file and never
make him the pleasure to read his crap or even answer to it.  I bet the
phenomenon M. would quickly disappear if everybody did this. 
-- 
Ernst Niebur                              Phone (818)356-6885
Computation and Neural Systems            Fax   (818)796-8876
Caltech 216-76                            ernst@cns.caltech.edu
Pasadena, CA 91125, USA                   ernst@caltech.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: In Its Entire History Greece Has Never Been A Democracy - Except...
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:54:16 GMT





<l78enaINNq6b@girtab.usc.edu>
perkon@girtab.usc.edu (Perikles Konstantinides)

>The Olympics, Democracy, Philosophy, Theater, Poetry, Medicine....
>Born in Olympia, Athens, Athens, Athens, Mytilini....

'PPPPs' and 'Gav*0s' just sit there. Even kicking doesn't always
help. As for 'Greeks,' well, the scholars may have a point. Today 
those 'PPPPs' boast about being the descendants of a great civilization, 
and the cradle of democracy. Howevers there are serious doubts in 
history for both claims.

First of all, several historians and anthropologists have produced
substantial evidence with respect to any connection between 
present-day Greece and ancient Greece. The prominent German
historian Jacop P. Fallmerayer published a treatise in 1830
and made the assertion that during the Middle Ages slavik
tribes poured into Greece and annihilated the entire Greek
population. Truly, can anyone see any resemblance between 
that beacon of ignorance, and the ancient Greeks who created 
a civilization? As for democracy, in its entire history Greece 
has never been a democracy - except for the last 17 years. 

Another insightful article in the New York Times (Sunday, April 7) 
exposes the dirty linen of Greece, and describes her as the pariah 
of the European Community. The article reports that ''...with 
un-European antics, Greece uses the Community as a cash register. 
She squanders, and at times even steals the European tax payers' 
money for political featherbedding at home. The principal members 
of the Community admit that it was a mistake to accept Greece to 
the European Community.'' This affirmation is testimony to the fact 
that notwithstanding her geographic location, Greece is un-European
in mentality and attitude. 

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: What is the origin of the name Istanbul?
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:51:09 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <Jul23.160248.52533@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, by cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas):
>>
>>Do you have sources that support this?  My sources tell me it comes from
>>'eis ten polin'.

Reading an old English classics history book today I came across the
variation "Stamboul". Any one any comments on how this might have
arisen?

Andy Fear, cla04@uk.ac.Keele
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From: ko@cns.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: 'Hallam The Crook' Breeds Forgery: 'Hallam-ian's Criminal Record.
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:43:52 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker) writes:

>What me forge more Mutlu crap????

>What on earth would anyone want to do that for????

>Nobody reads it anyway !!!!

>BTW mutlu is in my *outgoing* kill file, not the incomming one.


Nobody asked you what you think other people read. (I am among
those people who think you are a shameless crook.)

Kutluk