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From: rooneyr@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: atten:lawrence McIlhoney
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:06:30 GMT

lawrence mcilhoney,

this is the only way I can reach you ... the computer postmaster has 
been acting up and I don't know how to fix it... my mail has been sent 
back from soton and woods and this is driving me nutts!

	I'm sorry romance fanatics but this is where I met Lawence and  its
the only group that I know he reads.

Lawrence try to send me mail... if the problem is both ways send me a post here 
in the romance group....


Robin Hawkins
Xref: sparky alt.romance:13816 alt.romance.chat:20451
From: bandy@ccs.northeastern.edu (Bandy Chin)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Love Songs.....
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:02:43 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

I know this has probably been done by somebody before but I have to do it
myself....I was wondering what are some of the best love songs around.

I would appreciate it if everyone would send me one song that they would
consider the best love song.....I will compile it and post the results.
Songs can be new, old....whatever......Please include in your mailings to me
the complete name of the song and the artist.....

Send mail to bandy@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: fretlord@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ryan Stryker)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Sensuous farm animal noises
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:35:37 GMT
Reply-To: fretlord@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ryan Stryker)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: fretlord@happy.cc.utexas.edu


	It's a tender notion really.  "Honey," she says, nuzzling his cheek, 
"take me to heaven." 
	He looks long into her eyes, and thinks carefully on a response. 
He draws his lips to a kiss, and utters, "Moo."  
It's a mutual sentiment. 


So you see..

 
-- 

==============================================================================
"Interjections show excitement or emotion.  They're generally set apart from a
 sentence by an exclamation point, or by a comma if the feeling's not as strong.
 So when you're happy....     HURRAY!"
======================================= - Schoolhouse Rock - =================
From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Childish Guys
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:44:14 GMT
	<1992Nov3.151801.5365@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300


<words by guy who has complete collection of Disney home video, and
other childhood classics>

the way the phrase it is "I'm getting ready for when I have children
of my own, since they'll want to watch these things, and Disney tends
to limit their availability"

 -- clint
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Advanced Decision Systems/BAH	Internet:  chyde@chesapeake.ads.com
1953 Gallows Rd, Suite 600
Vienna, VA  22182-3934		(703) 902-7130
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rooneyr@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Robin searching for LawrenceMcIlhoney
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:52:09 GMT

well I have a feeling that these computers have it out for me...
first first I tried to send mail to this really nice guy Lawrence McIlhoney.
It worked a few times and now the computer keeps on spitting it back to me.
Then I tried to post Attn:lawrence McIlhoney and I was shot off the system...
the reason why I'm posting this in the Romance file is to try to find Lawrence
and tell him that I'mnot blowing him off (the electonic postmaster is a jerk)
and Lawrence if youre out there and happen to see this (0r one of your friends
seeit ) write to me via E-mail.. the address is on the righthand side of the 
screen of the post title.

thanks

Robin Hawkins

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Getting Married: Grounds for Insanity Plea?
Keywords: Off Your Rocker
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:46:34 GMT



Can anyone give me (a minimum) of three good, logical reasons
why people should marry?  It strikes me as a silly and unnecessary
cultural institution wherein two people legally bind themselves
together with a notarized, signed document, only to find out some
time down the road that they really aren't all that crazy about
one another.  Oh, I freely admit that there are a few freak cases
floating around out there---statistical aberrations in which two
people join together for life, and are truly happy with each other---
but if the divorce rates aren't all fiction, it would seem that, in
a majority of cases, you and your significant other would be much
better off not "tying the knot" because, in case of incompatibility,
you won't have to go through a ton of emotionally-charged legal
frabbajab to disentangle yourselves.

Consider: You get married, you settle down in a little white house
(with a little black kitten and a little grey mouse---apologies to
Ogden Nash) only to find that, by golly, there are some things about 
your spouse that drive you up the freaking wall; maybe it's the wet 
nylons she leaves hanging across the shower curtain rod, or maybe  
it's the way he leaves rings on the coffee table with his beer cans. 
No matter what it is, it aggravates the bejeezus out of you, and, 
after a time, you start to notice other "little things" about him/her 
that ALSO begin to grow from minor to major annoyances.  The irri- 
tation starts to feed upon itself, growing like some B-grade movie
monster from the 50's, swelling and bloating until you finally take
a good look at the beast and say to yourself: "By gaw, I think maybe
it's about time I did something about this."

And just what would THAT be?

Why, divorce, of course---perhaps not as much fun as murder, given
your present state of mind---but MUCH more legal, and almost as
permanent.


Now, think about it---wouldn't you have been much better off NOT
having gotten married?  If the relationship goes sour, either one or
the other of you can just get up and boogie on out the door, sans
lawyers, sans legal fees, sans messy and embarrassing court appear-
ances which, let's face it, you need like a hen needs a flag.

So, seriously, folks:  Why the hell buckle yourself into a social
straitjacket you'll (statistically) probably want out of a few
years down the road?

T.R. Stone
From: suopanki@zombie.oulu.fi (Heikki Suopanki)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: What kind of flowers?
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:00:02 GMT
	<1992Nov12.114515.11871@wam.umd.edu>
Reply-To: heikki.suopanki@phoenix.oulu.fi
Organization: Unixverstas Olutensin, Finlandia

>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:45:15 GMT, huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann) said:

Joseph> Red = Passion/Love
Joseph> White = Purity
Joseph> Yellow = Respect
Joseph> Pink = Friendship

What do blue roses mean?
The one in my sig is supposedly pink or blue...

-Heikki

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*> IRC: heska  <*>  Pink dreams and blue thoughts  <*>   @>-,--'--   <*
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ses39858@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sara Schertz)
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Get over Being Lonely
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:29:11 GMT

aa762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Babinsky) writes:


>It has been 2 months and 10 days since my girlfriend of 3 and a
>half years has broken up with me.  After begging and pleading and
>even calling her about 4 weeks ago (like a dummy), I was wondering
>if you ever get over feeling lonely or missing that special 
>someone to share life with?

This is really eerie....I just read your note then looked at my calender and 
realized that it has been 2 months and 10 days since my boyfriend of 3 and a 
half years broke up with me. So I know just what your talking about, and I 
still feel lonely sometimes, and I still miss that "special someone" (althoug
I'm more angry than anything else some days.)

Like another poster said, 2 months isn't that much time. Just the other day
I was depressed because I heard he had been here at my dorm cafeteria for
dinner and he ate with some of my friends who are also his friends. I was late
for dinner so I didn't see him, which I am glad about because that would have
been difficult. But since then I've been wondering if it is ok to still hurt
2 mos, 10 days down the road. Obviously he has no qualms about putting himself
in the position to run into me, but I can't imagine doing the same. He's over
it, and that hurts because I start wondering if I'm ever gonna get over it, too.

I think we all assume that these things aren't supposed to hurt very long...
maybe we get that idea from tv or movies where they have 2 hours to wrap it
all up, so the couple becomes good friends by the end. Real life just ain't 
like that. 

I'll just give you the advice I'm trying to take...don't rush yourself, don't
compare yourself to others who say 'get on with your life already.' That'll 
just make things more difficult. Don't dwell on things, but don't expect
instant results, either. And if you have a really good day when you feel just
great, revel in it, and remember it later if you have a bad day (maybe even
try writing down stuff about your good days -- why they're good, why you don't
feel lonely, then read it when a bad day comes along.)

Good luck! I certainly understand your problem!!

--Sara.
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "Childish Guys"
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:55:48 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

One thing just came to mind regarding this topic, and I'm sure
you've all thought about it already, but what the heck, it's
two words, and I think it might be interesting for us to consider
it.

Peter Pan

:)
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: Falling in love via phone?
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:26:23 GMT

(this is my first post here, so be nice, please...)

Yes.  It is possible to fall in love on the phone.  I did/have/am.  He's
going to be here in 13 days.  
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on net relationship...
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:42:42 GMT

in a recent article, Kate writes (via a friend),

--------------------------------------

>To cut a very long story short, I have fallen in love with somebody
>over the Internet, and he has with me too. The only problem is one

Congrats! Join the ever growing club... :-)

>very large one of distance - he's in Canada and I'm in the UK. I

Oooh! That is a big dist!

>heard about this sort of thing happening before in the Internet, but I
>always thought it was such a ridiculous thing to happen to anyone...
>that was until it happened to me.

I thought exactly the same my dear, until it happened to me... (Now,
where have I heard that before!)

>Things have become very heavy between us and we've called each other
>by phone quite a lot in the short time we've known each other. The

Sound's a lot like my relat... Your phone bill must be *hell*! Mine
is AUS$150 ish after one month!

>whole thing is getting to be like torture for me - there is no chance
>of me going over to Canada or him coming over to the UK, what

OK, that *is* hard. Mine is different, My SO (Hi Kezzle, <hug>!) is
*only* 700kms away (Melbourne, Australia - me, Sydney) and *we*
will meet (in two weeks actually!)

>I want to know is should I stop this NOW before both of us get hurt

I asked some questions like yors a while back. One guy wrote to me
about he and his SO who were well separated. He said they agreed *not*
to love each other (Hard, I know, but maybe there is something it it 
for you) and just be friends. This allows both to continue to have the
enjoyment they get from writing to each or, but no restriction is
placed if one or both meet a potential SO closer to home.

>anymore than me have too, or should I continue on? Has anyone out

I think the answer is kinda yes and no. Yes, continue to keep in
touch - there is no point in losing a good friendship. No, maybe
you should not love each other in *that* way. Sorry, it is tough.

Best of luck to you both

stuartb
.

-- 
"Somebody thought of it                 #    "I do not agree with what you say
 And someone believed it                #     But I will fight to the death for
 And look what it's done so far"	#     your right to say it"
                  (Kermit the Frog)     #               (Rumpole of the Bailey)
################################################################################
Stuart Andrews
stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au
Opinions posted here are mine and do not necessarily comply with those of CSIRO
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "Childish Guys"
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:19:58 GMT

i've just started reading this newsgroup not too long ago, and these posts
on childish guys immediately caught my eye..  from what i can gather, a
childish guy is someone who likes cartoons, games, and slowing things down 
to observe nature..  well that is me..  i know that i am "childish", but i
prefer to consider myself attached to my youth..  although i am not really
that old yet (20), but i can see myself keeping this way for the rest of my
life..  coming from a military family and being involved in the military
myself, there have been, and always will be times that i have to act "grown-
up"..  everytime this happens it just reinforces how much i want to remain
'young at heart' throughout my life..  and to tell you the truth, most of
my relationships have started because of my "childish" behaviour..  to me
acting childish shows more maturity then acting older, and it is much more
romantic also..

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore
	aka Peter Pan
		"Just think happy thoughts."
		"I cna fly, I can fly, I CAN FLY!!!!!!!"
From: tuff@ellis.uchicago.edu (Geoff Tuffli)
Subject: Re: Attention Advice Givers (ie HELP)
Reply-To: tuff@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:47:28 GMT

In article casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558) writes:
>
>Isn't this the difference between men and women. Men are entrusted with 
>the responsibility of taking charge in a relationship. In particular,
>it's men that always (ah, mostly) make the first move. Women, on the other
>hand, assume a passive role and take or refuse offers as they come.
>I don't think nature has a course in regard to relationships. It's
>only from the female perspective that "pushing" and "nudging" seem
>un-unatural. 
>
>SC
>
	I would alter this somewhat, and argue that this is what our
society encourages and molds men and women to do and feel; men to be
"active" in a relationship, and women "passive" -- I think it needs to
be pointed out, however, that this is very likely nothing more than
a factor of our society, and not any innate sexual difference.

	Geoff Tuffli
	The Green Griffin
From: rjf@dptg.att.com (51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Songs about Lori ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:42:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T/NCR, Lincroft, NJ, USA

In article <davidc.8.721343255@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com> davidc@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (David P. Cavanaugh) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.230420.24669@news.acns.nwu.edu> lls@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Lori Smallwood) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov5.161217.680@njitgw.njit.edu> lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee) writes:
>>>
>>>       Hello romantics.  Since I am in love with a woman named Lori, I would
>>> appreciate it if any people out there could clue me into any songs about Lori.
>
>>Oo!  Email them to me, too!  :-)
>
>>-- Lori
>

This has always been one of my favorites:

	Gee! L. O. R. I.  eh?


Not particulary romantic, but the back-beat?  You can't lose it.

What _I_ need is a special, yet generic love song.  You know, a
Nelson/Inglasias "Too all the girls..." sort of a number.

I count four times I've been in love:  Margaret Anne, Susan Ann,
Sally Anne, and Diane (a.k.a Anne and an Ann and Anne and ane).
I never did understand the difference between Semper Fidelis and
Ad Nauseum.

Anyway, the best I've been able to do so far is:

	Bright are the stars that shine,
	Dark is the sky.
	I know these loves of mine
	Will never die.

	Anne, I love them.
	They gave me everthing.
	And tenderly...
	.
	.


Oh well.  BTW, my sister's middle name is Ann also, but so far that
hasn't been a problem.  Maybe because we live north of the Mason-Dixon
Line? (Flaming instructions: you must include the state _and_county_
where you were born.  Please include your mother's maiden name only if
it not the same as your father's.)

I was talking with a woman Sunday night.  She had been married three
times to Richards.  Then, believe it or not, a woman told me last
night that her ex and current husbands are both Richards.  (And, no,
I was not confused by their use of nicknames!)  I know a women that's
working on her third Joe in a row.  (Her name is Anne too, but that's
got _nothing_ to do with it.  Trust me.)  Is there anything to this name
thing?  In my case, it is likely just coincidence (Anne is as common
a middle name for women as John is for men).  Two women with five
Richards in two days?  What's up with that?  Does anyone else out
there see patterns in their SO's names?  (Nicknames like jerk, idiot,
and f***ing loser do not count.)  If we could understand this
better, we might be able to save a _LOT_ of time and agony by
disqualifying certain people right up front based on name alone!
Think about it.  It would be really great!  The demand for vanity
license plates goes up.  The prisoners make more money.  _Everybody_
wins!  On the other hand, there might be less to this than meets the
eye.

Triane, if you're out there, it's your turn hon'

{8^)=


bob.    (terminally eNtp)	| Heap big trouble in the land of plenty...
Were these more than just my opinions, they would have cost a bit more.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen)
Subject: The virtues of internet
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:43:30 GMT
Keywords: love is the touching of two hearts.............

rtues of internet.................

Many people using internet today don't realize the many virtues of 
internet. It is the only way all people of the world can have instant access
to a geat many people of other races, cultures, etc. I've communicated 
with people in uk, nz, au, nepal, and many other places; you've probably
done the same. Internet is SO fast; think of getting a message to some-
one else in less than a second!! It's inconceivable!!  Yet we take it as a 
matter of fact. I think all edu's have free access to internet while 
commercial firms pay dearly for the priviledge. And all students, facualty,
and edu employees have free access; it's a "perk" of their profession.
And a wonderful thing it is to have an internet account. Some few people,
like me, pay for their account and even I am lucky because there are 
millions of people out there who can READ internet but not post; there-
fore we are major players in this scheme of things and we should all be
thankful for our opportunity.
	Now what, pray tell, does this have to do with alt.romance? Well,
two hearts can touch over  internet even though the people are many
miles apart. And isn't alt.romance about the touching of hearts? It is to
me, and I see no virtue in all this gutter talk about sizes, fat guys, 
use of the "f" word, etc; this bbs is about dating, love, commitment, 
romantic nights, the proper atmosphere for love et al. And we should 
keep it that way before we are all summarily dropped off the net.
	From a senior member of RFA     John Fippen
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: To all..
From: s206001@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:51:37 GMT

Hi to one and all..
This is just a general post.
Stu/Geoff glad to see Kez smile but be good or expect the boys round :)
Hmm guys and cartoons.. Well it's been said but I agree that as long as you 
remember the serious times and are true to your own responsibilities then 
what's the harm?  Besides guys are better that way than fully starched and full 
of dark clouds ;).
Parenting..Well my mum brought two of us up for the past 10 years or so all by 
herself and the kind of sacrifices she made can never be judged or taken for 
granted.  The pride and dignity most migrants feel toward forging a better life 
for their children is a dedication which deserves merit.  A 'family' is that 
which one makes it and not that which society or others should dictate.
Hmm ok Sean we'll 'agree to disagree' *grin*..
Hmm the married man stuff sure is hard on the confidence levels I wouldn't 
recommend it to anyone.  It is self destructive and not conducive to allowing 
you to move on in directions which would see you better off..Far be it for me 
to tell you what to do but I know for fact that the pain is not worth it.  Sure 
when you marry you don't or rather shouldn't have to give up on your 
friendships but if you're going to feel more for this man than that it is best 
to get yourself out of there.I know hard to do but worth it in the long run.
Well so much for my $0.02 worth..
Irene.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)
Subject: Re: What kind of flowers?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:58:57 GMT

rllai@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Roberto L. Lai) writes:

>A female friend is having her 21st birthday soon, and I've decided to
>send her flowers.  Now, I know red roses mean love, and white friendship,
>but there are more -- does anyone out there know the rest?  She knows
>deep down I'm crazy about her, so if I send her all red roses she won't
>freak out or anything, but I'd like to mix other colors or flowers in
>so the flowers would be more personal and interesting.  Cost won't
>be a factor, but she's not the type who'd be impressed by price-tags.
>Any suggestions?

Well, I got my SO a bunch of lillies when he came to visit me one weekend.
They were beautiful!  Half of them were closed, but by midweek, they were
all in full bloom and looked VERY nice.  Only problems were that after they
bloomed, they seemed to wilt quite fast and they shed a bit of pollen.
(Of course it didn't help that the two kittens knocked them over a few
times.... ;)  My roommate loves irises (sp?), the purple kind.  Her
SO sends them to her quite often.  I'm not sure what exactly they mean,
but sometimes flowers other than roses can be more meaningful.
(As for roses, my favorite are white and peach.  Yes, I once got peach
roses in a matching vase.  They looked lovely.)
It's the thought that counts...... :)
			-Wildfire-

 And the seeds of love were sown   <>                   -Wildfire-
 And nurtured with desire          <>             hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 And when they started to grow     <>           lmh44500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
 They grew like WILDFIRE!          <> Disclaimer:  Who ME?!?!?! (innocent look)

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