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From: robert@solan.unit.no (Robert Schmidt)
Subject: About the SBF library
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 15:54:16 GMT


I recently found an archive called SBF.ZIP, which is supposed to be a 
collection of sources from the Sound Blaster Freedom Project.  There's
a SBF.LIB file there which seem to do all the work.  I would like to know
if the sources for this library is available, and where I can get them.

I tried e-mailing to the address included, but the mail bounced.




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From: lels@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za (Leonard Els)
Newsgroups: alt.sb.programmer
Subject: Speech Recognition using the SB
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:51:06 GMT
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, UNP
Distribution: world
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Keywords: speech recognition


Hi,

Are there any theses, or likes, which describe the code used for
speech recognition using a PC and a SB.

Or better still, is there any such code available on an FTP site?

I am looking for a simple digit recognition system.

Any pointers?  E-mail please!




Leonard Els
E-mail : lels@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za
         els@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za
From: eburke@aludra.usc.edu (Kethry)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Smalltalk
Date: 9 Sep 1992 08:05:39 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


To Colin:

I like your style!!!  Your multipantheonic collaboration was just
what I needed to start my day off on the right foot!!!  Oh, where
can I get a copy of some of the non-physics related books/programs
that you guys are talking about??

To anyone on the net:

Same question as to Colin...I meant to put that question over here, 
but I goofed, oh well...Anyway, I live in the LA area and any information
would be really appreciated...:-)

You can e-mail me if you prefer at:  eburke@huey.csun.edu
Thanks in advance...

Bright Blessings,
Kethry
From: eddie@hermes.oit.unc.edu (Edward M. Averett)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Shielding
Summary: Don't think.
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:28:53 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <73qn_zk.friday@netcom.com> friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin) writes:
>
>Curious, just how "do" you experience your internal processes?  I have a
>sneaking suspicion they're in pictures and sounds and ..., all inside your
>
>So, to summarize:  We *think* in sensory-grounded terms, even tho they may be
>outside conscious awareness, and we *communicate* in sensory-grounded terms,

>*explicating* by translating magickal acts from our internal terms to the
>external.  (For my part, at least, I used to explain things to demonstrate
(stuff deleted)

I'll take the last comment first.  Yes, constantly explicating what you mean
or do can be demeaning for all parties involved, which is, I suspect, one of 
the reasons why knowledgeable people don't always care to explain everything
they know or do, which leads other folk sometimes to fret that the experts 
are "concealing things".  Also may be related to the statement about "...those
who know do not speak, those who speak do not know...." *Anyway*. .to change
topics. .... .

I'm not sure this will go over. .but. ..when I'm just sitting sometimes, I 
"forget" who I am. . To use a classical example, if I'm watching a butterfly, 
then I can cease to examine my internal processes and just be, not be eddie, 
not any of the labels that I identify with, not a husband, a lover, a cook, 
a whatever.  Just be.  No pictures inside the brain, etc.  I'm not thinking.
I'm being. I'm not even really "feeling".  Though there is a body which 
recieves sensory data always, and though all that I know or do is a result
of the 2nd hand sensory information which I believe I recieve from the "world"
around me, I nonetheless maintain that one does not have to be participating
in it, once one learns hows, on certain levels.  

I do magic this way, a lot. If I even stop to think about it, then yes, I'm 
modelizing immediately, sensory process.  Yes, there is still a translation
problem from internal process to external process, but that is not what I 
was referring to.  People who study certain kinds of yoga, or meditations, 
or different disciplines may have this state I'm talking about as a goal. 
Seeking after it, can be in fact, a good way not to get there, at least in 
the short term.  

If this isn't clear, then I can try to explain more on this topic, either 
on the net, or in email, if carol anne, you wish to have an extended dialogue
on the topick (distinguished from topic, which is not at all the same thing).

			-eddie@legba.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Necromancy
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 05:29:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

amanda@INTERCON.COM (Amanda Walker) writes:
: eshin@ddsw1.mcs.com (Eshin-Fun) writes:
: > The word Necromancy means "Divination by the dead" It is usually confused
: > with Black Magic Because the word for the dead and the black in Latin are
: > similar.
: 
: Er, say what?  "Necros" is greek, not Latin, means "dead," and is not much 
: like any word for "Black," or even "dark," that I can  think of in either 

Necro is very much like Negro, 
: Greek or Latin.  "Necromancy" is translated very straightforwardly as 
: 

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From: SL500000@brownvm.brown.edu (Robert Mathiesen)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Josephus
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:33:11 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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This is Josephus Flavius, who wrote _The Jewish War_, _The Antiquities of
the Jews_ and _Against Apion_.  There have been various English translations,
some more, others less scholarly and accurate.  A couple are still in print,
and not always too expensive.  There's a Penguin of just the _Jewish War_.

Robert Mathiesen
Brown Unviersity
From: eddie@hermes.oit.unc.edu (Edward M. Averett)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Now: Letting shields down.
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:29:39 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <Bu9p19.DMx@acsu.buffalo.edu> oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) writes:
>I've read about some new ways of putting up shields.  How about 
>ways to let shields down.  
>I find it much harder to be vulnerable.
>Even so there are times when letting down all shields is what I 
>want to do, even just to make sure I can still do it and none get 
>stuck half-way down.  Much harder to be vulnerable, yes?  
>Hurt me! :)

(In the background boy-George is singing). ....

Letting down shields that you have artificially constructed should be fairly
simple, so I'm going to talk about the ones you may have up by default that
you have developed by just living. 

Well, if you read the posts on shielding, you simply do "visualizations", or
"focusing", using the same methods you can use to make shields, except that
in this case you are reaching out, opening up, what-have-you.  Imagine that
there is water in you, and this water is reaching out to the water in 
the atmosphere, the water in the ground around you, in the pipes and taps and
wells, in the creeks and streams and rivers, in the clouds above, in the oceans, 
Imagine that you are connected to the world in any number of ways.  Imagine
that you are open to the world ditto. . Meditate and study yoga to learn to 
find and hunt down shields you didn't know you had.  Study Tai Chi to learn
to connect yourself to your universe better, to ease the flow of currents
through yourself. . ..Study Aikido to learn to feel and see the flow of 
your universe around you better.  The options are limited only by your 
own desire and energy.  A study of Zen may be in order.  Have fun. It's 
a never ending process. 

			-eddie@legba.oit.unc.edu 
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin)
Subject: Re: (Was shields down) Now: morality of love as force
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 20:19:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I don't think there are "conspiricies" within alt.magick as there are
cliques and cabals.  For my own purposes, I have serveral classifications
into which I've learned to lump some of you...some positive, some shadow.

There is a definite "in-crowd" here, and one that acts to erect barriers
to new entrants who may have real issues they haven't yet learned to
phrase in forms "acceptable" to the some members of the "in-crowd".  They
do suffer at the hands of the old-timers...and occasionally, we never
hear of them again.

Such is the nature of total democracies:  Those who scream loudest and
longest drive the rest into apathy and boredom.  The few reasoning voices
I've learned to respect here in alt.magick (and you know who you are, don't
you?) always get my attention--whether I agree or not.  There are a few
rabid dogmatics whom I've learned to ignore.
-- 
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    - Friday -                      "Practice random acts of kindness 
      friday@well.sf.ca.us                      and senseless beauty."
      (aka Carol Anne Ogdin@Santa Clara, CA)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: mdouglas@netcom.com (Mike Douglas-Llyr)
Subject: Re: The pentagram
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 00:42:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: magickal symbolism of pentagram


	In addition to some of the other ideas here regarding the
symbolism of the pentagram, I'd like to point out that one of its most
basic interpretations is that of the four alchemical elements (earth,
air, fire, water) held in balance and "crowned" by the "fifth element"
, aether or spirit. The reason that the upside down pentagram is
considered to be a symbol of evil? It represents elemental imbalance
and the raising of matter (as manifested via the elements) over
spirit. Intolerant Christian authorities later identified the
lower-points-upmost pentagram with the horns of the devil. This was
the result of taking two disparate ideas and grafting them onto the
same symbol. On the one hand, the concept of the elevation of 
matter over spirit is probably a fitting symbol for the causes
of what we perceive as evil in our world. On the other hand, as you
probably know, the attribution of horns to the Christian Satan was/is
merely a political ploy to denigrate the ancient European and
Mediterranean god-forms that employ the horned symbolism and have
nothing to do with Christian concepts of evil but, rather, symbolize
fertility.
			michael


-- 




	Hokh'Ton	:	The Crystal Wind is the Storm,
  mdouglas@netcom.com	:	 and the Storm is Data,
Michael Douglas-Llyr	:	  and the Data is Life.
			:		---Player's Litany (The Long Run)
From: wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Eichman)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: ASTRAL PLANE
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:03:22 GMT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

cal@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Low) writes:

> OBE is an amazing experience, magical in every sense, and I'm surprised
> how rarely it is mentioned here. For those who haven't experienced it 
> I'll say the following:
> 
> I haven't a clue how to tell anyone how to do it. I think it is 80%
> physiology and 20% psychology; if I don't get the physiological conditions
> right, nothing happens. Mild fasting seems to help considerably in my
> case.
> 

Maybe you could give more detailed descriptions about the when, how, and 
what of the experience for us?

What exactly led up to it, how long did it last, and how successfully 
have you been able to recreate/reliably produce it??

Later, Bill
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Subject: Re: The pentagram
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:43:47 GMT

>In article <65459@cup.portal.com>, Tagi@cup.portal.com (Tagi Mordred Nagashiva) writes...
>9209.08 e.v.  [The Birthday of my Abyss!]
>'Inverted' and 'upright' imply a 'correct' orientation of the star.
>If you want to be seen as a fundamentalist or an ignoramus, please
>use these terms. ;>  Otherwise, I suggest what some others have taken
>to use: 'point-up' and 'point-down'.  Adios!

	Does this person understand what both types of terms mean?

	I get the feeling that Inverted, Point Down, Upright, and Point Up, are
ALL fairly easy terms to understand, and I HOPE that everyone reading this group
knows what all of them mean.  If not, inverted means point down, and upright
means point up.

	Now we have two terms to use interchangeably for EACH variation of
orientation for the pentagrams we discuss.  If we add in "Right Side up" and
"upside Down" we have 3!

	Now, isn't that special.  We can now say the same sentence 3 different
ways, and everyone will understand, right?  Good.  Now our sentences can be as
colorful as we please.

	Djheez.
						D
From: malcolmc@spider.co.uk (Malcolm Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Shields
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:10:39 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <83950136@otter.hpl.hp.com> cal@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Low) writes:
>I thought it would be worth recording the shielding techniques before
>the discussion moves on. I don't have time to write it up in detail,
>but I think something ought to go in the FAQ.
>
>1. Reflective. Dispose of unwanted energy by sending it back to source.
>   Can use mirrors as a physical basis.

I've been debating whether to post another technique or not, since it works
very well for me, but I know others have had bad experiences with it - but I
think its worth adding to the list, with that warning..

The technique is what I'd call 'The halo of thorns', or 'wall of thorns' if
you use it around a location. The intention is that any attack thrown
against it hurts the attacker, more so the more violent the attack.

It defeats an attack by making the attack too painful for the attacker to
continue with..  Its not a simple reflection... 

I visualise an oak door with thousands of protruding spines and thorns, then
visualise any attack as the attacker pounding at the door bare-handed.. Its
not a fluffy-bunny technique, but it works.. if you can handle allowing your
attacker to injure themselves..

--- Malcolm

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Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Third Order of St. Michael
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:39:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Does anyone have a current contact address for the Third Order of St.
Michael, an esoteric Christian group founded (I believe) by fantasy
author Katherine Kurtz?

Please email any info to grimoire@u.washington.edu.  Thanks!

-- John Michael Greer
   grimoire@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: This post composed before a live studio audience
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:21:00 GMT

The other day I was slumped in front of the carniverous coaxial creature at 
some wee small hour and one of those programmes about "wierd shit" was on.

In addition to the usual loonyness (UFOs, Big Foots, floating Maharishis
u.s.w.), there was an interesting bit about some lad who allegedly could
make images appear on film with some sort of SCARY MAGICKAL MENTAL POWER.

Anyway, they tested him first by using 35mm cameras:  He'd place his fingers
over the lens, concentrate, and tell one of the "scientific crew" when to
snap the shot.  Sometimes the exposures were nothing, but sometimes they had
the images the crew had shown to the fellow.  What's interesting is that they
usually weren't very good photographs in the sense that the psychic chap kept
getting things slightly wrong--the ferinstance I recall is when the showed him
a photo of an aeroplane, the image he produced had several of the struts out
of place.

Later, he tried the same thing with motion picture cameras.  The footage the
show I was watching presented consisted of him approaching the camera, rubbing
his hand over the lens, and various hazy images appearing in splotches on the
film.


I was wondering if anyone out there could identify the gentleman in question,
similar cases, and/or any documentary material on the same.










Yours etc.,





SubGenius
From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Japanese Occultism (was: Re: AGLA)
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:34:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

(I tried to post this a little over a week ago, but it seems to have
vanished without a trace; one of the hazards, I suppose, of being at
the "see Jane run" level of computer literacy.  If this has, in fact,
already appeared, my apologies...)

Tagi (and anyone else interested) --

My sources for Japanese occult traditions are limited, mostly because
I don't read Japanese; still, there are some English-language sources
to be had.

First on the list has to be Carmen Blacker's _The Catalpa Bow_, which
is one of the best books on folk magic, of any culture, that I've ever
seen.  It deals primarily with the old rural traditions, mostly Shinto-
derived.  Another book on the same topic is Percival Lowell's _Occult
Japan_, which I think is back in print.

John Stevens' bio of aikido founder Morihei Uyeshiba -- the title is
_Abundant Peace_ -- has a short section on the role of esoteric Shinto
traditions in the origins of aikido, which mentions some interesting
things -- notably, a kind of Japanese qabala called _kotodama_ which
is used to construct words of power.

_Kotodama_, and a number of other esoteric practices, are also to be 
found in _Do-In_ by Michio Kushi, in a section on "spiritual exercises".
 
Besides the Shinto traditions, there are also esoteric Buddhist schools
of the sort one would normally associate with Tibet.  The Shingon sect
(_shingon_ literally means "word of power") is the most important of
these; there are some books on the subject, but as I haven't read any
of them I can't give recommendations.

Another source for the Buddhist magical traditions, oddly enough, is
ninjutsu, the martial art of the ninja "assassins" of feudal Japan.
(Maybe not so oddly; if there's an East Asian religious tradition that
doesn't have a martial art connected to it, I've never heard of it.)
No turtle jokes, please!  The ninja had an extensive esoteric system
to go along with their more physical armament; probably the most well-
known part of this is the _kuji-kiri_, a set of mudras (that's "symbolic
gestures" for the Orientally challenged) used to focus energy, which
are found all over the Japanese occult realm.  If you've ever seen an
_ukiyo-e_ print where some mysterious robed figure is tying his fingers
into what look like knots, you've seen them.

Books on ninjutsu worth getting are the ones by Masaaki Hatsumi, Stephen
Hayes, and their students.  (If you're _really_ interested, someone over
in Rec.martial-arts ought to be able to come up with the address for
Hayes' group, the Shadows of Iga.)  Avoid the ones by Ashida Kim; the 
guy's a fake of the first magnitude.

Hope this is of use.  

--JMG
From: z_hiltoncc@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: A little info please...
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:32:06 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In a bit of an aside, I'd like to summon Yog-Sothoth to sire my grandchild. 
Could someone please E-mail me some information on summoning?  How should I go
about it and what precautions should I take?   

Serious replies only.                                                
Newsgroups: alt.magick
From: jasonp@cunix4.Prime.COM (Jason R. Pascucci)
Subject: Re: Love spells?
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:27:34 GMT

In article <14SEP199221330798@rosie.uh.edu>, lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
> In article <lindsay.716368031@cs.wisc.edu>, lindsay@green.cs.wisc.edu (Joe Lindsay) writes...
> >>>I hope this isn't a FAQ, but does anyone know any good love spells?
> > 
> >>Why, just curious or needed for use?  It seems to me that if you
> >>have to use a love spell its not worth it.
> > 
> >Is it worth it then if you don't have to use it? :-)
> >I don't "need one, but I think it would be nice to have that extra edge.
> 
> ?Extra Edge?.....Isn't that coercion?  I don't know about anyone else, but
> to rob someone else of their own choices is wrong in my book. IMVHO!!!!!

But....but....but...didn't you just say nobody can....excuse me...
"NOBODY CAN HURT YOU UNLESS YOU LET THEM?". The implication is
that, if you really believe this, Love spells will generate
'true love', where nobody gets hurt, and that it's not hurting them,
and by (albeit a little over-extended, but not much) extrapolation, it's 
their own choice? 
To be clearer: Can someone, while you invoke the 'NOBODY CCAN HURT YOU...' 
mantra, coerce you into doing something to hurt yourself, perhaps through
psychic attack? Then your mantra doesn't work very well, does it? 

Actually, there is an equally plausable theory that Magick can't make 
anything happen that wouldn't happen anyways. (it's a karmic and
time-logic thing). The truth of this is evident on a much different
plane of thought than many are used to thinking to get through the
days. 

> Tammy
-- 
Jason R. Pascucci
jasonp@primerd.prime.com

A high student of Zen named Crowley was sitting
in a room, with another high student named Waite. 
Waite stood, staring at the stars.
Crowley stood up, and hit Waite over the head with a 2x4, 
and sat back down. Both were enlightened.
From: wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Eichman)
Newsgroups: alt.magick
Subject: Re: Spirit in the house, and parents won't listen...
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:20:34 GMT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

> Funny. The few people who have shown what appears to be a real knowledge of
> magic have never seemed to complain about all sorts of attacking "things"
> that are out to get them.  Maybe they just learned long ago to control such
> unwanted intrusions of their psyche.
> 

Yes, I'd say that's pretty much true. 

There don't seem to be much in the way of "attacking entities" out there.

Oddly, the _experience_ of attacking entities seems pretty common, and a 
lot of people get reallly hung up on it.

Our knowing that there are no attacking spirits doesn't always help those 
whose brains and minds are generating the feeling of being attacked. 

Well, everybody just does what they can. Still, It's good to emphasize 
that there are a lot of very experienced practicioners who have looked 
and looked, and not found any substance behind the feeling of "Attacking 
entities".

Later, Bill