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From: Andrew.Findlay@brunel.ac.uk (Andrew Findlay)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: overloading cn= in the DIT
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:55:11 GMT

>> Now how do I deal with people who do
>> search cn=<string> and find a bunch of DSA and MTA get returned?
>
>This is the problem with the ****** DUAs, not the standard. The

Absolutely correct. Hit the DUA designers to do the job right.
(I speak as one, and cower as I write :-)

There has been a raging flame-war in the UK lately about the existance
of animal names in the DIT. The same comments apply: DUAs should show
the user what they want *and nothing that would confuse them*.

>user should be asking (in an appropriate GUI way, of course :-)
>'search for a person with the name of George Michaelson'. Never,
>ever, 'search cn="George Michaelson"'.

This is exactly what the (later) Brunel DUAs do. Try `doog' (line
mode) or `xlu' (MIT X) or PC-pages (MS-windows/CONS). They all take
great care to show only `real' people when that is what the user is
expecting.

>(ps I should make an honourable mention of ITAXA, which at least
>looks at the object class of the returned entries _and_sorts_them_.

It is much better to specify the object class in the search. Then you
never have to process the irrelevant entries at all (and there might
be a lot...)

Andrew
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From: tim@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Tim Howes)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: LDAP-1.0 Release Announcement
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:38:59 GMT

Sorry for the cross posting...            -- Tim


			A N N O U N C E M E N T

    I am pleased to announce release 1.0 of UM-LDAP, an implementation
    of the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol.  LDAP is a soon-to-be
    proposed standard lightweight protocol for accessing X.500, that
    runs over TCP/IP.  It is similar in function to the DAS and DIXIE
    protocols described in RFC's 1202 and 1249, respectively.  LDAP
    itself is currently described by the Internet Drafts osi-ds-26 and
    osi-ds-27.

    This release includes the following components:

	- LDAP server

	- Asynchronous client library

	- Synchronous client library

	- Lightweight BER encoding/decoding library

	- Sundry sample client programs

    ISODE-8.0 and QUIPU are required to build the server, but the client
    libraries can be made separately without having ISODE.

AVAILABILITY

    This software is freely available to anyone for any lawful purpose,
    subject to U-M copyright notices and disclaimers.  The software is
    available for anonymous ftp from the host terminator.cc.umich.edu
    in the x500/ directory.  The file is called ldap-1.0.tar.Z.

SUPPORT

    The software is provided as is without any express or implied
    warranty, but there is a bug reporting mail address which is
    responded to on a best-effort basis:

	bug-ldap@terminator.cc.umich.edu

    In addition, there is a discussion list for issues relating to this
    implementation of ldap:

	ldap@terminator.cc.umich.edu		-- discussion list
	ldap-request@terminator.cc.umich.edu	-- to join the list

    Comments or questions about the LDAP protocol in general should be
    sent to the OSI-DS discussion group:

	osi-ds@cs.ucl.ac.uk

SUPPORTED PLATFORMS

    The software is known to run on a Sun 4 under SunOS 4.1.1, and the
    client libraries have been ported to the Apple Macintosh.  Future
    releases will likely be ported to other platforms.
From: mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Prior)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: The DSA "cn=Bush Dog" will be moving later in the week
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:55:27 GMT

The performance (or lack of it) of Bush Dog has got beyond a joke (not
really surprising since it is on a 8MB Sun3/60), so I intend moving it
to the machine that currently runs c=AU@o=DMD@cn=Platypus (currently a
24MB DS3100 but it should be upgraded soon). This will mean that the
data will be merged and Platypus will disappear (I have no intention
of running two DSAs on the same machine).

Hopefully this will all happen with a minimum of fuss/problems but
just in case expect things to be a bit flakey.

This will also mean that the version of Quipu will change back to 7.0,
so I can support DECnet/OSI.

Mark.
From: eskovgaa@cue.bc.ca (Erik Skovgaard)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: overloading cn= in the DIT
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:35:42 GMT

Andrew,

I fully agree.  Hopefully, we will see some creative DUA user interfaces
soon.  From past experience it would appear that the early products are
more designed to prove proper conformance.  Good user interfaces will
appear in second or third genegation products.

Glad to see that someone has understood the issue.

Cheers,                      ....Erik.

P.S. X'cuse my crummy typing.
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory
From: ajaaku@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A. Jaaku)
Subject: directory information
Organization: U of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: aus.net.directory
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:35:31 GMT


I would appreciate getting information on accessing the
directory.  I did it once a while ago but have misplaced
the addresses and commands so any help would be
appreciated.

Andres Jaaku
From: mrp@ITD.Adelaide.EDU.AU (Mark Prior)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory
Subject: Re: PRODiR AU level results
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:30:21 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, University of Adelaide

I have decided to post the weekly DSA availablity statistics for the
Australian DSAs (the root DSA availablity stats are available in the
aus.net.directory.osi-ds group).

These statistics are obtained by running X-Tel's prodir system. Each
DSA is probed every 30 minutes during office hours, and every 90
minutes outside of those hours.

While the report leaves something to be desired, since it doesn't
identify the sites with 100% availability, there is nothing I can
really do about it since prodir is a binary only release.

Mark.
From: geoff@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (Geoff Russell)
Subject: Re: Airband receiver wanted
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:40:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.064456.18318@cmutual.com.au> btc@cmutual.com.au (Tony Cook) writes:


>I am after a cheap but effective airband receiver.

How cheap are you talking....there are always a few advertised in Australian
Aviation.

Geoff Russell
UWS-Hawkesbury
Newsgroups: aus.photo
From: robert@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Robert Groom)
Subject: Introduction to Photography Course run by Melbourne Camera Club
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:37:48 GMT
Summary: Introduction to Photography Course run by Melbourne Camera Club
Keywords: Photography Introduction Course

Learn to produce pictures not snapshots with the Melbourne Camera Club.
Twice a year a series of eight lectures and several practical sessions
are conducted by the Club to introduce both members and non-members to
photography.  The lectures are designed for owners of good adjustable
cameras who wish to really understand how to get the best out of such a
camera and its accessories.

All lectures are given by senior Club members who specialise in their
particular section of the course.  The lectures are held on Tuesday
evenings 8.00 to 9.30pm.  There is no age limit.  The course cost is $80.

Participants in the course are also granted a special six months
"provisional membership" of the Melbourne Camera Club, which encourages
students to attend the Club's general meetings and allows participation
in the Club's specialist Monday night photographic groups and other
activities.  The Club provides a photographic environment that encourages
participation and discussion between members, course students and visitors.

Syllabus for Course 2, 1992

Introduction, Pictures, Cameras, Film                                 Jul 28
The 35mm SLR and exposure                                             Aug 4
Sunday morning practical workshop, understanding camera controls      Aug 9
Photographic composition and Landscape                                Aug 11
Extra Lenses                                                          Aug 18
Photographic Lighting and the use of filters                          Aug 25
Photography with Electronic Flash                                     Sep 1
Sunday morning practical session - excursion to the Treasury/Fitzroy  Sep 6
gardens.  Students will be able to photograph models, close-ups,
scenic and candid subjects.
Portrait and People Photography - bring your camera                   Sep 8
Travel Photography and Discussion of Students' Work                   Sep 15

To join the course go to the Clubrooms, corner of Ferrars & Dorcas Streets,
South Melbourne at 7.30pm on the first night of the course.
For further information contact Philip Dunn 888 1947 or write to the
HON. SECRETARY, THE MELBOURNE CAMERA CLUB, BOX 930G GPO Melbourne 3001,
or visit the Clubrooms any Thursday evening.
-- 
Robert Q. Groom                            "My other computer is an EOS-1"
robert@labtam.oz.au
Labtam Australia Pty Ltd         phone: +61-3-587-1444 fax: +61-3-580-5581
Newsgroups: aus.photo
From: 10758275@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ANDREAS MONCH)
Subject: Re: Introduction to Photography Course run by Melbourne Camera Club
Summary: Introduction to Photography Course run by Melbourne Camera Club
Keywords: Photography Introduction Course
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:23:12 GMT

>Learn to produce pictures not snapshots with the Melbourne Camera Club.
>Twice a year a series of eight lectures and several practical sessions
>are conducted by the Club to introduce both members and non-members to
>photography.  The lectures are designed for owners of good adjustable
>cameras who wish to really understand how to get the best out of such a
>camera and its accessories.

>All lectures are given by senior Club members who specialise in their
>particular section of the course.  The lectures are held on Tuesday
>evenings 8.00 to 9.30pm.  There is no age limit.  The course cost is $80.

>Participants in the course are also granted a special six months
>"provisional membership" of the Melbourne Camera Club, which encourages
>students to attend the Club's general meetings and allows participation
>in the Club's specialist Monday night photographic groups and other
>activities.  The Club provides a photographic environment that encourages
>participation and discussion between members, course students and visitors.

>Syllabus for Course 2, 1992

>Introduction, Pictures, Cameras, Film                                 Jul 28
>The 35mm SLR and exposure                                             Aug 4
>Sunday morning practical workshop, understanding camera controls      Aug 9
>Photographic composition and Landscape                                Aug 11
>Extra Lenses                                                          Aug 18
>Photographic Lighting and the use of filters                          Aug 25
>Photography with Electronic Flash                                     Sep 1
>Sunday morning practical session - excursion to the Treasury/Fitzroy  Sep 6
>gardens.  Students will be able to photograph models, close-ups,
>scenic and candid subjects.
>Portrait and People Photography - bring your camera                   Sep 8
>Travel Photography and Discussion of Students' Work                   Sep 15

>To join the course go to the Clubrooms, corner of Ferrars & Dorcas Streets,
>South Melbourne at 7.30pm on the first night of the course.
>For further information contact Philip Dunn 888 1947 or write to the
>HON. SECRETARY, THE MELBOURNE CAMERA CLUB, BOX 930G GPO Melbourne 3001,
>or visit the Clubrooms any Thursday evening.
>-- 
>Robert Q. Groom                            "My other computer is an EOS-1"
>robert@labtam.oz.au
>Labtam Australia Pty Ltd         phone: +61-3-587-1444 fax: +61-3-580-5581

Since when does one use this newsgroup for free business advertisement?
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: The $5 note
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:18:13 GMT

u870191@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Gavin Barr) writes:

>A more acceptable way is just not to recognise the note as being
>legal currency by refusing to accept it in your change.  As with
>all money it is only any good if people believe in it!    When there
>is growing active resistance to its use the Government is effectively
>forced to replace it with something more accepted (the old note??).

>Simple, but effective (& legal).

Not legal, actually. The note is legal tender, and hence *must* be
accepted in the payment of debts. 

Defaced notes are, however, *not* legal tender, and I won't be accepting
any of them.

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.edu.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.  -- Seneca
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Australia's new $5 note
Date: 17 Jul 92 05:25:46 GMT

Hello barth.richards!

Thursday July 09 1992 18:19, barth.richards (bart@cbnewsd.cb.att.com) wrote:

 >> a fully deletable picture of the Queen.
 br> Err, a "fully deletable" picture of the Queen?  Could you elaborate on
 br> that a bit?

You can scratch the whole lot off!


Must be a design fault though: Carolyn Chisolm doesn't appear underneath. :-)


Regards,
Hamish


I'm sick of my signature. It's too big. erased. only temporary though! :-)
Xref: sparky aus.general:1452 comp.sys.dec:4293 vmsnet.pdp-11:574
From: geremin@decus.com.au
Newsgroups: decus.pdp11,aus.general,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.pdp-11
Subject: Surplus PDP-11/70s, 11/44, RM02/03/05s, TE16s, RA60, RA81.
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:02:06 GMT
Organization: DECUS, South Pacific Chapter

DISTRIBUTION: AU

	Surplus PDP-11/70 (x3), 11/44, RM02/03/05s, RA60, RA81
		---------	-----  ----------   ----  ----

I need to dispose of the above surplus items as I have no spare 
space to store such bulky items. There are about a dozen RM 
drives plus dozens of packs. These have been in use until 
recently and will be guaranteed in working order, and RSTS 
licences may be available for transfer (paperwork allowing).

ALTERNATIVELY - can anyone help me find some cheap storage space 
(possibly a corner of a warehouse) that could be used to store 
such systems until I get around to setting up a Computer Museum.
Storage space would need to be in Sydney area preferably Western 
Suburbs - but any offers will be considered. Thanks in advance.
--------------------------------------------

The PDP-11s are all located in Sydney - and are going real cheap.
Preference will be given to anyone who can provide their own 
transport and manpower for moving. I am currently decommissioning
this equipment ready for shipping. Unfortunately the hardware 
documentation is limited for these systems. 

There are some dead terminals (VT100s) and some LA36s, LA120s
etc. Plus heaps of used magtapes (I also have 3 boxes unused).

Regards, John G.
v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v
  John Geremin,  Trainee Guru,  PDP-11 SIG,  DECUS Australia, 
IN%"geremin@decus.com.au"  voice: 02 764 4855  fax: 02 764 4679
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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: 10657827@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (WENDY LEONG POOI YAN)
Subject: Tao Te Ching Fortunes
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:17:01 GMT


	To anyone :-
	
	I am interested in any English translation of the Tao Te Ching by 
Lao Tse or any information about Tao.
	Please tell me about anything or where to get books regarding this 
belief.
	Your help is appreciated.
	Thank you.
	
	Winnie.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: pclink@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rick)
Subject: The new $5 note and GA.
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:44:44 GMT

The paper notes (not just the $5) have GA stamped on them somewhere.
Anybody find GA on the new $5?

Rick.
Xref: sparky aus.general:1446 soc.culture.australian:3773
From: mjt@anl.oz (Michael Tuke)
Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: The new $5 note and GA.
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:30:29 GMT
Organization: ANL Ltd (The Australian National Line)

In article <jhb.711940732@galois>, jhb@maths.su.oz.au (John Brownie) writes:
> In <1992Jul23.234444.22438@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au> pclink@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rick) writes:
> 
> >The paper notes (not just the $5) have GA stamped on them somewhere.
> >Anybody find GA on the new $5?
> 
> The new $5 note would only have GA if it was designed by Gordon
> Andrews, who designed the old set.  I don't think he did these - does
> anyone know who did?

Well, you won't find GA on the $100 note - he only consulted, quite
obvious that he didn't do it when you look at it!

He definitely didn't do the plastic $10 or $5, but don't know who did.
There was an article about him a few months ago in "Good Weekend"
(SMH/The Age) (I think it was there), and despite being somewhat older
now than when he initially designed the decimal notes, would have been
quite capable of designing new ones, or at least being involved in the
design.  Pity he wasn't involved!
-- 
Michael Tuke			Phone:	(03) 869-5364	My opinions, not
Information Technology Dept.	FAX:	(03) 869-5110	my employer's.
ANL Ltd				ACSNET:	mjt@anl.oz		OK?
432 St. Kilda Road, Melbourne, 3004.
From: jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au (Jonathan Dwyer)
Subject: Re: Compulsory Voting
Followup-To: aus.general
Organization: The Psychology Department
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:59:43 GMT

u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp) writes:
|> taso@munnari.OZ.AU (Taso Hatzi) writes:
|> Presumably,
|> >it's illegal to prevent someone from voting.
|> 
|> Ask the people who dynamited the bridge in to Jackey's Marsh in Tasmania
|> to prevent greens voting in the local government elections a few years ago.

And to balance this out, compulsory voting also means that after every election
quite a few dead people are found to have voted, sometimes more than once:)

Jon
(distribution to aus.general only..)
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: haines@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (Andrew Haines, Civil, 1/113)
Subject: Re: The $5 note
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:45:04 GMT

In article <711948764.F00002@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au> hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt) writes:

>Wednesday July 15 1992 00:36, Chris Karadaglis wrote to All:

> CK> JJJ this morning had 2 people ring in and explain how the Queen can be
> CK> erased off the new $5 note. Apparently moisture and a thumbnail will
> CK> remove the eyes, and Ajax and a scourer will remove the whole head!

>Well I couldn't get the eyes off with thumbnails, but you can get the whole lot
>off with the end of a bread and butter knife... Also, it's not just the queen
>that can be scratched off.... :-)

If it gives you $5 of pleasure to do it, why not?  Reminds me of stories 
from the gold rushes - where newly rich diggers used to light their cigars 
with 5 pound notes.  

Andrew Haines                       \ "You're all individuals!"
Computer Systems Officer              \ "WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS!"
Monash University, Melbourne, Australia \ "I'm not!" Monty Python:Life of Brian
From: s314262@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (Dylan Tusler)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Sydney Opera Info Needed******
Summary: Need timetable info esp in November for Opera House
Keywords: Opera Sydney
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:49:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Queensland Uni, Australia

An overseas acquaintance with a strong interest in opera is coming
to Australia in November and needs to know what will be on
at the time in Sydney.

Can anyone help me out with either information on programmed
events in Nov/Dec or point me in the direction of
someone who can.

I would just phone, but I've got an STD block on my phone
and I'm a poor student trying to do a favour for a friend
on a tight budget.

Prefer if you mail to me direct, as I often don't read
this board, but any reply would be appreciated.

Ta,
Dylan
s314262@cs.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: dave@philips.oz.au (David Torr)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 06:53:52 GMT
Organization: Philips Public Telecommunications Systems, Melbourne, Australia
Subject: Re: Compulsory Voting
Distribution: aus

ghm@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Geoff Miller) writes:

>dave@philips.oz.au (David Torr) writes:
>>Something that has puzzled me as a humble Pon who came out here 10 years ago. In England voting is compulsory and you can only vote at a designated booth.

>As a non-humble Pom who came out here 16.5 years ago  -  eh?  When did
>voting in England become compulsory?

 Oh **** - I meant to say that it is NOT compulsory!
-- 
Dave Torr                                   dave@philips.oz.au
Software Development Manager                Tel +61 3 881 3587
Philips Public Telecommunications Systems   Fax +61 3 883 3577
Views expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect Philips' policy.
From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Leaking Tunnel
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:54:14 GMT

in article <1992Jul29.121700.9135@pta.pyramid.com.au>, bgg@pta.pyramid.com.au (Ben Golding) says:
> [re tunnel funding - is it Government or Private?]
> I'm sure Brendan "Tunnel Lover" Jones will be able to answer both
> questions definitively.

Why thankyou :-)

I won't go in to all the gory funding details, but as another poster pointed
out, the tunnel is being built by a private consortium and is being funded by
Harbour Bridge (and soon Tunnel) toll collections.

Transfield-Kumagai floated the project with a loan from Westpac on the basis
of "guaranteed revenue streams" from the toll collection.  After 30 years,
Transfield-Kumagai hand the tunnel to the NSW government and pocket whatever
profit they've managed to collect via the tolls less repayment of principal
and interest to Westpac (and less any cost blowouts).

To offset the low risk due to the "guaranteed revene stream", Transfield-
Kumagai had to sign a fixed-price construction contract, ie, any poject cost
blowouts would be their financial responsibility, not the Government's.
Considering what happened with the Opera House, that was a very good move by
the Government and certainly imposed a financial discipline on the consortium.

As it's turned out, the toll collections haven't quite met the "guaranteed
stream" level, due to lower traffic levels (because of the recession,
virtually zero traffic growth and a larger than expected rejection of the
higher toll).

The funding is detailed in the RTA's annual report.  I don't remember the
exact figure (I can get it if anyone's interested), but the accumulated toll
shortfall over the past four years (including toll collection costs) was about
$6 million, slightly less than 1% of construction costs.

This has had to be funded by the NSW Government from consolidated revenue, so
NSW taxpayers are paying for about 1% of the tunnel.  If that upsets you,
there's not much that can be done about it, I'm afraid.

-- 
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R&D Contractor |   UUCP:  {uunet,mcvax}!otc.otca.oz.au!brendan | your
Services R&D   |  Phone:  (02)287-3128    Fax:  (02)287-3299   | company
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From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Leaking Tunnel
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:00:53 AEST
Organization: The Prentice Centre, Uni of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

In article <gaojeng.712246673@durras>, gaojeng@durras.anu.edu.au (J. Gao) writes:
> ABC TV reported the soon-opening tunnel is dripping salt water, which means
> the concret will be coroded. Any comment?
> 

Don't forget your wetsuit?

--
Rob.

Newsgroups: aus.general,soc.culture.australian