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From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Lilo and OS/2 bootmanager
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:46:26 GMT

In article <BERNHARD.92Dec8094014@t524i3.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de> bernhard@t524i3.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christoph Bernhardt) writes:
> Making the Linux partition bootable -- while disabling the bootmanager --
> works just fine. Lilo comes up and bootstraps correctly. But when I
> reactivate the bootmanager and chose the Linux partition from the
> bootmanagers menu the screen blanks and the first "L" of the Lilo
> bootmessage appears, and that's it.

Getting only an "L" means that LILO can't load its second stage loader.
Maybe Bootmanager is doing something evil here ...

> Is there another way to chose a boot partition during the boot process?

Well yes, LILO can probably do that if OS/2 is on a primary partition.

Old-style configuration: os2=/etc/lilo/chain.b+/dev/hdaxx@/dev/hda
New-style configuration:
other = /dev/hdaxxx
  table = /dev/hda
  label = os2

- Werner
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From: mendels@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey Mendelsohn )
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: KERMIT source FTP site sought
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:55:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	Could somone please foward an FTP site where I can
	get the source used in LINUX's kermit?  I looked
	on tsx-11 but was unable to find it ...

						Thanks,
						Jeff Mendelsohn
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: mail: Segmentation fault
Keywords: mail, users
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:36:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.145102.9399@infodev.cam.ac.uk> tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts) writes:
>|> Easiest solution: grab /pub/Linux/system/Network/deliver.tar.Z on 
>|> sunsite.unc.edu.  Its a replacement for mail.
>
>Er, this file ain't there.

Ok, I'm a loser. I shouldn't be doing my human directory service trick at
1 in the morning from memory.  Oh well...

Its actual existence is in /pub/Linux/system/Mail.

on the other hand, you could also try a quick grep of 00-find.Linux...

jem.

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From: jdelashe@jade.tufts.edu (James deLasHera)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP!  Problems mounting HD --SCSI!
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:23:16 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Hi, I have dowloaded the SLS distribution of LInux, and made
floppy images of disks a1 and a2 to boot from (the rest of
the floppies are on my SCSI hard drive, Adaptec controller)
I have tried to install Linux, and the boot works fine, but
Linux cannot find my hard drive!  What can I do?
I assume I can install from the files on my HD, once Linux finds
it!


By the way, will Linux support my TI based, 1280x1024 svga
card?  Hopefully, I can get Linux to work on my Eisa machine.
Please help, or else I'll be forced to purchase SCO!

Send replies to JLATEINE@PEARL.TUFTS.EDU -- I don't read 
news often, and a friend is posting this for me.
	Thanks,
	Josh
From: Rob.Levin@p13.f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: root login refused on some terminals, can't see kermit prompt.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:44:46 -0800

Replying to a message by Loemban Tobing MSD of 1:343/94@fidonet, Dec 15
12:18, to All:

 LTM> Chuck Lunskis (chuck@perlab.eas.asu.edu) wrote:
 LTM> : I've got two problems, that I can't solve... I've look in the 
 LTM> FAQ, and : didn't see anything related to either, so here 
 LTM> goes...

 LTM> : Why is root login refused on some terminals?  I've encountered 
 LTM> this in : two places. first, I've added a couple extra getty 
 LTM> calls in inittab so I can : login to tty5 and tty6, but if I 
 LTM> try to login as root, I get the message :  "root login 
 LTM> refused on this terminal."  Same thing happens if I try to 
 LTM> login : as root from an xterm.  What do I need to do to fix 
 LTM> this?

The file /etc/securetty is a list of terminals from which you may log
into root.  Add the additional terminals to this file.


Rob L.

 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, Texas (1:3802/217.13)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danw@panix.com (Dan Wold)
Subject: Xwindows, startx can't find font fixed.
Summary: Fatal error message
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:11:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: Xwindows startx fonts
 

I'm trying to run Xmono. When I run startx it gives:
fatal server error: cant load fonts directory. Can anyone give me an
insight on this problem? Thanks.
 
Dan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jting@cayley.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: window manager- tvtwm
Followup-To:  none
Summary:  window manager
Keywords: windows, manager, tvtwm
        
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:11:57 GMT


Hello Linuxers:

Is there a window manager under linux which is similar to tvtwm?
If so, where can I find it?  Thanks for any reply.
From: jimc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (James Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Serial IRQ polling
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:48:42 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Keywords: serial, irq

Does Linux poll serial ports (i.e. can I use COM2 and COM4 at the same time
if they are both on IRQ 3). I have looked at the serial code but it just
gets me dizzy. And I do not see any mention of polling (which is what I 
always thought was the correct phrase). But is Linux suppose to do this?
And if so PLEASE tell me that there is a trick to enabling it because
nothing I've tried works.


	-Jim Carpenter
	 CARPENTER@Eisner.DECUS.Org
	 jimc@gnu.ai.mit.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: romano@pical3.iet.unipi.it (Romano Giannetti)
Subject: mcopy to a:
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:53:33 GMT

Is there a way for giving to normal users permission to mcopy to the
diskettes but NOT to the C: (/hda1 for me) partition?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: MONEY + Linux
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:57:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.033917.2963@midway.uchicago.edu> goer@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Can Linux go on forever without some commercial support?  

Who knows... This sort of thing is fairly new (commodity hardware with free 
operating system: there have been free OS's before but they didn't run on
machines that one can get from a zillion odd (some *very* odd :) ) 
manufacturers)

I mean,
>it's hard to see anything as useful that's maintained by folks that
>aren't doing it for a living - at least the size of a 386 UNIX
>implementation.  

hmmm. I beg to differ. the net has a history of "picking up" the 
maintenance of useful things that have been abandoned.

>Is there some way that a useful remuneration path
>can be arranged.  

sure: the free market. :)

>E.g. could universities be site-licensed, thereby
>gaining the right to have attention paid to their bugs and config-
>uration problems, and to receive regular updates?
>
You see, Linux (the kernel and most of the main utilities including
the compiler are copy-lefted.  Anyone can give them away or sell them...
So anysort of site licence based on updates will quickly be undermined
by people just giving it away.

Custom features and immediate bug fixes though, do have some potential.
Ask (who was it?) the fellow who wrote the Xenix emulator for Linux under
contract or actually ask anybody at cygnus.com who does that sort of thing
for a living.

>This might seem to come out of the blue to people on this list, but
>many, many people won't touch Linux because they don't see it as
>"going anywhere" except into an endless chain of mixed expert and
>amateurish accretions that can't possibly be maintained properly.

hmm. if you want a serious conversation, I reccomend not accusing people
who have probably together put some thousands of man (and woman) hours
into the development, testing and organization of Linux of "amateurish
accretions". It just ain't polite. 1/2 :)

Linus is our benevolent dictator kernel-wise.  Out of respect for
his work and contribution to the good of the universe, people have not
been calling things "Linux" unless its his official kernel release.

What Linus says is Linux, is Linux; he has been the channel for approving
new, contributed kernel patches and features.  This has prevented what you
fear.  Well, not exactly. All of Linus' work is by its nature, amateur.

He is an amateur (i.e. not doing this for a living) as are most contributers
to Linux.  Which is why you should read the section on "polite" twice.

Read the GPL (the file COPYING in the kernel source).  it is the license that
Linux is distributed under.  If you think such a service as you propose is
needed and you can make money on it (or you just want to be another amateur!)
go to it. 

best of luck,
jem.



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From: hsavolai@cs.Helsinki.FI (Hannu Savolainen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem compiling snd-driver 4.0
Date: 21 Dec 1992 03:46:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kypros.helsinki.fi
Keywords: Linux, Sound,

In <arumble.724907125@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble) writes:

>I had a problem when trying to compile the loadable
>driver for Linux 0.99 With snd-driver 4.0..

>It needed kcrt0.a

>Where can I get/build this??

You will need the Larix -package to use the loadable driver. It was
available for Linux 0.97 (pl6 as I remember). 

>-- 
>Anthony Rumble
>aka SmilieZ
>"Anything is possible.. If there is enuf money in it"
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From: turnbull@ces.cwru.edu (John Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Stupid mistake, advice wanted. (i.e. HELP!)
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:38:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: john.ces.cwru.edu

I've been using Linux for many months and have been very impressed with
it. However I just managed to do something real stupid, and would like
some advice.

What I was trying to do was upgrade libc.so.4 to libc.so.4.2. What I did
in the process was an rm libc.so.4, so I could relink it to libc.so.4.2.
Of course ln didn't work as it couldn't find libc.so.4, and I can't reboot
from the harddrive as even init uses libc.so.4. I tried downloading H.J.Lu's
bootable rootdisk, thinking this was the perfect use for it, but it refuses
to boot with an Error 0x10. I also tried the boot/root images from tsx-11,
but they also refuse to boot. 

Any suggestions? I have a 386sx, 2Mb and 2 ~100Mb IDE drives.

Thanks in advance

John
From: sadkins@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott W. Adkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Someone make .99 image for 3c503??
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:05:05 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept., Athens

In article <1992Dec16.205101.6245@desire.wright.edu> gbothe@desire.wright.edu writes:
>Can someone PLEASE make an SLS version of the Linux Image that uses a 3c503
>Ethernet board INSTEAD of a WD8003 board??  I think it would save a lot of
>people (like me) a lot of hassles trying to get tcp/ip to work...  The SLS
>defaults (w/ version .99 kernel) are perfect for me except for the ethernet
>board...  Can anyone compile a .99 version for those of us who are too stupid
>to get it working???  Thanks!

What other Ethernet drivers have been written for Linux?  We are in the process
of trying to get one working, but I know it is not compatible with the WD8003.
Maybe the 3c503 would help... I am getting near the end of my rope...
(We am in the process of looking at the DOS drivers and trying to see how
they initialized the card and stuff... but it is a harrowing experience.)

Maybe I should ask this:  If you are using any other Ethernet card other than
the WD8003, can you send me email on what the card is and what driver (whether
the same or not) you are using to get it to work?  I can at least compile up
a sort-of-FAQ for it and post it for those getting other brands of cards...

Scott

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From: Greg.Naber@f34.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Naber)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Fidonet Users of Linux!!!
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:29:06 -0800

XP:LNXMANAGE

comp.os.linux.announce has been gated to the Fidonet Echoid tag of
LNXMANAGE

This area was originally set-up for the purpose of giving fidonet system
operators a place to ask questions, or to be kept informed of releases
of software that I had managed to get off of the internet systems for
fidonet consumption, without having to increase the volume of
comp.os.linux with postings that few would be concerned with.

LNXMANAGE was originally placed on the fidonet backbone at the same time
as the comp.os.linux gated echoid tag of LINUX.

LNXMANAGE was originally e'listed as a sysop only echoid. I feel that
user's could have access to this area as a read only area. I will make
the appropriate changes to the elist to reflect this.

c.o.l.a <-> LNXMANAGE is a one way gate, any sysop posts to it will not
be passed back to Lars or Matt's for moderation.

The format to send an announcement back for moderation into c.o.l.a
follows:

For fidonet, here is the format of a mail message to the moderated
group:

To: UUCP  <at your favorite gate, 1:343/94 or 1:343/34 will get there>

<in the body of message:>

To: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu

<text of message here>


(BTW, for those in fidonet who may not know, this is the standard format
of personal mail exchange from fidonet to the internet, substitute the
address of the recipient in the To: line in the body of the message, and
send it to your favorite gate.)

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From: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Lilo killed me
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:57:25 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu



I tried to install Lilo on my system.  I followed exactly what the doc's said, but
when I tried to reboot, my system died.  I would get messages saying - unable to 
load...., etc, and the screen scrolls continuously.  When I pressed TAB, I simply got a . as available load devices. (that is a single period)

How do I backup and (NOT) start all over again?  I can still boot my system using
the 'original' MCC disks, and can mount all of my drives, etc.  
Should I just rewrite the floppy's boot record?  Or should I replace the Image file?

Someone help me please. 

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From: d90-jkr@tjornyj.nada.kth.se (Johan Krisar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on a PS/2
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:40:19 GMT
	<RRUSK.92Dec10113516@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com>
	<Bz2D9w.Fru@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
	<1992Dec11.164954.11705@novell.com>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d90-jkr@tjornyj.nada.kth.se

In article <1992Dec11.164954.11705@novell.com> rszeto@wc.novell.com (Ron Szeto) writes:

>>If you guys with PS/2 Models 60, 65SX, and 80 are wondering, the drive is
>>a CMS B150A3 170MB IDE, and it co-exists with the IBM ESDI drive
>>in the system just fine. I don't imagine that you'd have any problem
>>using it for your Linux drive (I believe that the controller is a
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>16-bit controller; it uses one of the shorter MCA slots).
>
> Does this mean that Linux will work on a MCA machine as long as the drive
> does not use IBM's EDSI interface?  I would rather get another drive than
> an ISA machine to ran Linux.  Please correct me if I wrong.  --Ron 

I'm afraid the answer seems to be nope. Sorry. I tried to boot Linux 0.98
on my IBM PS/2 mod 80-A21 (MCA bus with (unsupported) SCSI interface), and
it behaved quite differently than another small clone I tried it on. It 
seems to behave correctly until it's decided the display modes, then strange
things start hapening. Firstly, the screen blanks out after a couple of
seconds unless you press any key, and secondly, it refuses to do anything
else, unless you start hitting the keys on the keyboard... Lastly, the 
UNIX OS aparently gets interrupts from the Diskette driver, when it
shouldn't.

My (uneducated) guess would be that the PS/2 isn't I/O compatible with the
average ISA/EISA architecture. Given time, I'll try to dig deeper into 
things, but since I can't really run Linux as it's supposed to be run, it's
hard to poke about things.

/ John

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From: rbraun@spdcc.com (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Musings on "Where is Linux Going?"
Keywords: Linux, support
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:27:01 GMT
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc., Waltham MA

hollan@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Rene Hollan) writes:
>I know of commercial organizations that have recently recognized the high
>quality, stability, and *support* avalilable for gcc/g++. Some are seriously
>considering using it as the compiler of choice. Some concerns over support
>remain ...

At my former employer, I set up a two-person operation to handle the
entire hardware portability effort across about a dozen platforms.
This *cannot* be done without gcc, especially on a budget limited as
ours was.  Every other company's portability department I knew of looked
more like a big bureaucracy than a team of two tucked away in the midst
of a much bigger engineering group.

As for support, gcc comes out on new platforms faster than any of the
commercial products.  Instead of one or two people at the other end of the
phone line, I have an entire Internet of people on call 24 hours daily
to resolve problems with gcc.

An example: last year, I was due to ship a product on SCO Xenix during
the coming week, but none of the software installation procedures had
been written yet, and I had a braindead non-ANSI compiler.  It was
proving time-consuming to bring up my own copy of gcc on this little toy
computer.  So I posted to one of the comp.unix newsgroups looking for
help.

Someone in Australia emailed me everything I needed to bring up not
only the compiler (prebuilt), but perl and an entire set of scripts
to produce turnkey installation diskettes in the native vendor format
(in that case, 'custom').  By Tuesday, I handed my boss diskettes
ready for customer delivery.

Try getting *that* kind of service from a vendor!

-rich
P.S.  Repeated demonstrations like this will in fact convert even the
stuffiest bosses into signature authorities for improved Internet access!
My former employer now has a 10-Mbit connection...
Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:20558 comp.sys.laptops:4689
From: jdg00@ccc.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Paradise chipset, TI Notebooks (was [Q] Linux and Notebooks)
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:59:11 GMT
Reply-To: jdg00@amail.amdahl.com (Josh Grosse)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

I've just installed SLS on a TI Travelmate 3000 WinSX.  It works, but I've not
yet gotten X to work.

The TI3000 (and 4000) use BIOS calls to switch from LCD (standard VGA) to
external monitor (512K Paradise -- WD 90C20 chipset).  I used MS-DOS debug
to figure out TI's ALTVID.EXE program, and then used it again to add the
switch to Linux Boot.  If any Travelmate users want my mod, send me e-mail.

I've yet to get X to work -- either mono or color.  With color, at least, I
see the screen "ramp-up" to blue, though the sync is all screwed up.  And,
it's screwed up using the standard VESA 640x480x256.  

Has anybody gotten a Paradise Plus or other non-pro board to work with X?
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From: jimc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (James Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller
Keywords: scsi, st01
Date: 14 Dec 92 02:42:06 GMT
Organization: Masschusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

In article <1992Dec12.172120.23570@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> hartnegg@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Klaus Hartnegg) writes:

>FORGET THE ST01/02 !
>It just costs you a lot of time and money.

>However:
>- the ST01 is not available any more in shops
>- sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
>- it depends on the bios version
>- it does not properly work with MY hard disk (Rodime 200 MB)
>- it is not (yet?) really supported by Linux (i.e. will be sloooow).
>- trying different controllers you will have to fdisk every time
>  you switch controllers since they map the disk differently, even
>  different ST01 controllers do it different (number of tracks and such).
>
>Of course you MIGHT be lucky and save a lot of money.
>But be warned that I WASTED a lot of money (and time!!) trying
>to find a cheaper solution. Linux apparently does not like cheap
>controllers. If there is a small problem, it does not work at all in Linux.
>Right now I have an St01 here that works most of the time under dos
>and it is being detected by Linux but then a few
>seconds later Linux CRASHES with a SCSI timeout message.

Perfect timing. I was about ready to get a ST01 for myself. How many of you
are having problems with the ST01? I haven't seen too many complaints about
the ST01 but then again I just got back on the net not too long ago. But if
there is definitely serious problems with it PLEASE let me know. I would go
with the Adaptec but my budget is VERY tight.

Any advice???



Jim Carpenter

jimc@gnu.ai.mit.edu
CARPENTER@Eisner.DECUS.Org
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux