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From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: >SCSI Drive GS<->Mac
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  9 Oct 92 01:20:05 GMT

>>From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
>>Subject: Re: SCSI drive
 
>Now I havn't tried hooking up a Mac formatted HD to a GS w/system 6.0
>to determine if the HFS FST will automatically recognize the Mac
>volume.  The same might be possible on the Mac if you are using the
>ProDOS file system extension for the Mac.
 
If you format a non-Apple SCSI drive for HFS with ADU on a GS, the drive will
not work on a Mac because ADU will not put a driver on the drive. You _should_
be able to format the drive on a Mac just fine and use it on a GS, but you
can't always. The Mac formatter I used worked fine for Macs but Finder saw
something like 30 unrecognized devices and ADU was so confused by the disk that
it wouldn't even reformat it. It took the 8-bit Apple DMA SCSI utils to
reformat the drive.
 
What I did was Derez ADU to get the Apple SCSI drive driver out of it, Rezed
this, and named the file GenericMacSCSI (and put it in my *:System:Drivers
folder) as per the ADU ERS. I think I could've just renamed ADU
GenericaMacSCSI. If I get another Syquest cart, I'll have to try that.
 
The Apple driver embedded in ADU isn't generic enough to properly support
removable drives, but it worked well enough.
 
I think the ProDOS File System init only works for floppies, but I don't know.
Anyone?
 
 
Jay
 
Internet: jay.krell@cornell.edu
America Online: JayKrell
GEnie: J.Krell1
 
(this is the 3rd time I've bothered typing up my hard drive formatting quest. i
think that'll be enough.)
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dos 3.3 FST
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:42:59 GMT

Both the DOS 3.3 and Pascal FSTs are read-only.  It's unlikely that either
will ever be made read/write, even though I think that the DOS 3.3 FST
should be (I've argued that for a long time, but nobody listens to me :).

- Eric S.

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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED: Rev. D. SCSI card for IIe.
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:04:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Oct 07 92 at 18:30:25 (EST)

> From: rsb5c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Richard S. Bondi)
> Subject: WANTED: Rev. D. SCSI card for IIe.  
> Organization: University of Virginia
> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:37:33 GMT
> Size: 3 lines (487 bytes)
> 
> Subject says it all.  Will pay reasonable price.  Thanks!
> Richard Bondi

Not quite. Since the only Rev D SCSI is the Ramfast Rev D which is NOT
recommended for use in a //e.
 
There is NO Apple Rev D SCSI, so I can only assume you are referring to the 
Ramfast, which, again, is NOT recommended for use in Apple //e's

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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.apple2.gno passes 207:30
Date: 11 Oct 92 09:54:38 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Oct 10 92 at 12:50:47 (EST)


I wrote....
> >Okay, so where should posts to this newsgroup be sent?
> >comp.sys.apple2.gno@apple.com? Or someplace else.
 
Jawaid responded...
>   No, if you're reading comp.sys.apple2 you're more than likely going to
> get comp.sys.apple2.gno as well.  The USENET guidelines specify a 5 day
> wait to allow serious complaints to surface.  None have yet (as far as I
> know), so we're on schedule.  csa2.gno will probably appear Monday or
> Tuesday.

Sigh. I see we're not on the same page. I'm not reading this from USENET. I'm
not on INET either. This newsgroup is echoed to me through the ProLine
interface to INET. When I post a message to comp.sys.apple2 I send it to
apple.com. What I'm asking, which you did not answer is where I should be
routing the posts for comp.sys.apple2.gno?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: SoundConvert
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.211848.397@lrc.edu> rheinze@lrc.edu writes:
>Where can I buy SoundConvert?  Who sells it?  How much?

You can buy it from Quality Computers, Roger Wagner, Big Red, and directly
from Triad Venture.  Suggested retail is $49.95, mailorder runs in the 
$29 range I'm told.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter for GS
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:22:08 GMT

From article <m0s9RB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, by slhood@bluemoon.rn.com (Stephen L. Hood):
>         I highly recommend the Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 500 as an 
> alternative.  It has 300dpi resolution, several built-in fonts (kerned, 
> both portrait and landscape), two cartridge slots (for memory or extra 
> fonts), a paper tray, a slick output tray, and is nearly silent when 
> running.  All you would need is a serial cable and a printer
> driver ...

I second the recommendation. In addition, SuperPatch 8.0 from Quality
has a driver for AppleWorks Classic that prints proportional like you
have never seen before. In addition, the printer works for screen dumps
from ProTerm or any other program that throws ASCII to the IIgs built
in port. Buy it, you will not be sorry!
-- 


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				IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
From: ztsindi@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Wanted GS Systems -> A Hoax
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	The numbers given in this post are not answered. When they are
the other party hangs up. I tried ten times. Don't bother...
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: >Pauley, >Orca
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:44:14 GMT

>> Pauley
> I received a bunch of payments (10) in the last 2 weeks.  I don't know
> why, maybe it is hitting local BBSs now or something, so my attitude is
> better.  Two of the payments were from France, one from Germany, and one
> from Canada.  I was really surprised that these people bothered with a
> $3 shareware fee.  Thanks.
 
That sounds like the doing of a shareware distributor, perhaps
A2-Central-on-Disk, but they always asked me permission before dist'ing my
stuff.
 
>  It would be too expensive to send new disks to everyone.
 
I know what you mean. People often ask me to be send the latest (and greatest?)
of my stuff, but for $5 and with how busy I am...
 
> Orca/C
 
To pick a nit, the product's name is ORCA/C (all caps).
I believe 2.0 will have prototyped toolbox headers. Alpha versions of them are
on GEnie.
 
  Jay
 
  Internet: jay.krell@cornell.edu
  America Online: JayKrell
  GEnie: J.Krell1
 
PS - Has anyone successfully downloaded MenuTime 3.33 from cco.caltech.edu
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Orca bashing (was Re: Amrit, C/C++)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 11:05:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:

>I agree this is the main reason, but I also think Mike Westerfield
>doesn't have very warm feelings towards C - he is a Pascal-supporter.

There is also the fact that Mike owns only an ISO Pascal validation suite --
ANSI C validation suites are _EXPENSIVE_ and he hasn't been able to afford one.
I am not joking. It's disgusting how much those things cost.

Usually when I have a beef with Mike it is because of disagreement over the
goals a given software component should have. If we agree on the purpose, we
usually agree on the method. But he has made some design decisions that make
me positively queasy. The way the small memory model is implemented really
pisses me off, for example, and the internal code generation technique is
really half-assed. For example, if you typecast an int to a long you will get
a multiplication by 1L -- this generates an unnecessary 32-bit multiply and
you have to turn on optimization to get rid of it! Argh!!

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: *** Enough of the ModZap War! ***
Date: 15 Oct 1992 02:50:58 GMT
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nde.unl.edu

t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

::[Requesting ModZap War be taken to email]

>Didn't moderation fail, Jawaid?

Wrong newsgroup, oh Captain my Captain.  That was the .binaries. group.

>Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
>t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
>.... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 488-8401, 300-38400 hst

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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Laser printers/ IIgs
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:42:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue Oct 13 92 at 17:49:59 (EST)

> From: aa331@yfn.ysu.edu (Fred Wilson)
> Can most any Laser printer with a serial port be connected
> to the IIgs?  I have found a Postscript printer (made my PCPI)
> which has both parallel and serial ports but NO Appletalk
> port.

Any printer of any type can be used on the GS...it just depends on how much
work/effort you are willing to put into it. :)
 
To more restrictive...to use almost any printer on the GS with GS specific
applications you will need a printer driver...and possibly a port driver...to
be sucessful. Currently the ONLY Postscript printer driver is Apple's
LaserWriter printer driver which expects you to be using Appletalk.  
 
You can still make use of this printer and it's postscript, by a work around.
I.E you will print to disk from the Laserwriter driver (Open Apple F while
Clicking on the OKAY button) and then send the resulting file to the printer
via a comm program (I used to do this all the time, before Harmonie and
Independence allowed me to use my HP IIp in something other than Postscript
mode...I used Snowterm to download files to the Postscript printer).
 
Unfortunately Parallel, while faster than serial, does not allow for an
interactive session with the Postscript interpreter (or at least I've never
encountered a parallel postscript that did). You'll probably need to use the
serial interface.

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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WANTED: Rev. D. SCSI card for IIe.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 13:25:51 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

A quick hasty apology to Kim -- I've been informed via mail that the RF D does
indeed have weaker bus drivers that may not work well in the //e. I've noticed
that it's more noise sensitive, too, because two of them have died on me on
trips so far. All of this stems from the "new low power" design being a little
TOO low power.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: bye....
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:44:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

i don't have enough time to get on a tempramental system, so could you unsubscri
be me?  i'll try to get it off of future net....
        |<en \/\/ronkiewicz
        usr3947a@tso.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: SCSI drive
Keywords: SCSI, Apple, Future Domain
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:43:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.193515.23139@sunova.ssc.gov> Charles Chang writes:

> In article <1992Oct8.235427.2388@javelin.sim.es.com>, mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson) writes:
> +> In article: <digdug.718583854@vincent2.iastate.edu> Doug V Tran writes:
> +> 
> +> > I'm trying to see if a GS drive can work on a MAC computer.
> +> 
> +> [discussions on Mac HD deleted]
> +>
> +> BTW:  The 25-pin to SCSI cables used with Future Domain cards on the
> +> IBM PC, aren't the same as 25-pin to SCSI cables used with the Mac or
> +> GS machines.  Using a Mac cable on a PC Future Domain card will
> +> destroy the Future Domain card (I didn't do it, but I've seen it
> +> done).


> It's correct that Future Domain uses a different DB-25 connector, but
> it WILL NOT destroy the card by connecting an Apple standard DB25
> SCSI cable to the drive.  I have tried it and did not cause damage to 
> either side.

Maybe it was just my imagination, but I witnessed a Future Domain card 
stop working just because a Mac SCSI cable was used instead of a
Future Domain cable.  If I recall correctly, the card was a TMC-850.
Future Domain makes an entire line of 8-bit and 16-bit cards that
come with and without drive circuity and ROM based software.

Perhaps the Future Domain card you had was better designed than the
version we had.  Or maybe the card was ready to die anyway and just
happened to pick that moment to stop working.  Then again, maybe you
were just lucky. Who knows?

The point is that the Mac cable / Future domain combination isn't 
going to work, so why risk damage.

[MGM]
From: mute@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (The Amazing Immolating Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Applied Engineering Viewmaster card??
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:03:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


I was recently given a more-or-less intact Apple ][ Plus.

Installed within it was a very strange card that I have never
encountered before. I was given no documentation whatsoever.

So- I was wondering if anyone could give me any help on this thing. It
looks to be a fairly standard full-length Apple ][ card. It is
labelled "Applied Engineering" and "Viewmaster," and has two ROMs on
it, labelled Rev 1.1 and Rev 3.0. On the inside edge of the card, the
edge farthest toward the back, there are two RCA jacks, one labelled
"To C.R.T." and one labelled "To Comp." This seems a bit arcane to
me...

So, can anyone out there help me with this? I was told it was some
kind of display card, which would seem to jibe with its appearance.
However, I have no idea how to hook this thing up to a monitor.

Please respond by mail, as I do not often read this group. (Yet... If
I can get this Apple running nicely, I might...) Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brandt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: tbc@netcom.com (Mike Garvey)
Subject: Re: GS & CTS...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:17:56 GMT

Here is a summary of my experienes. Using PT3, I am unable to get an error-
free Zmodem upload. As has been mentioned before, when CTS falls I get a
ZRPOS error and then resend, the net effect being 50% decrease in
throughput.

I tried ANSIterm and the problem DIDN'T manifest itself for me. On transfers
(both ways) of a 100K file, I had zero errors, an unspectacular throughput of
about 1275 cps, and curiously, ZERO activity of the CTS/RTS signals. With the
exception of the last curiosity, I was ready to proclaim that it's a PT3
software problem, but after reading these messages, I'm not so sure. Now I guess
it's time to try the other ZModem implementations out there (ProLine 2.0,
METAL/FV, etc.)...
 
Come to think of it, all of the 'good' sessions showed no CTS/RTS activity --
looks like the hardware handshaking might be the problem <grinsky>. Summary:

14.4Kbps session (v.32bis)
 
ProTERM                         ANSIterm
-------                         --------
sz - c. 750 cps w/errors        sz - c.1275 cps
rz - c.1525 cps                 rz - c.1350 cps
sb - c. 900 cps
 
(Wanders off mumbling something about this is an interesting mystery)

Be seeing you...
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From: dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: E-mail address of Morgan Davis
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:46:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-haro.jd29078
Distribution: world
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

In <1992Oct12.023118.20864@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
sledbett@nyx.cs.du.edu (Shawn Ledbetter) writes:

>Does anyone have the e-mail address of Morgan Davis?  I would like 
>some information on his Pro-Line system.

mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com


===========================================
David Green      dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com
-------------------------------------------
     System Operator of Pro-Harold BBS
   "Moral Support For Intelligent Sorts"
===========================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: GSHK1.1
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:25:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.124850.5487@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz) writes:
> 
> Has anyone had problems with the docs on GSHk1.1? After unshrinking, the doc
> file reports as being empty (just tried to load it using ProTERM) despite it
> having 62 blocks.

The documentation file has a resource fork, so you won't be able to
load it in any ProDOS-8 editor.  I have no idea WHY is has a resource
fork (it is of type TEXT, after all).  Genesys claims that the resource
fork is invalid (resource manager error $1E02).


Easter egg: I found the following message in one of GSHK's alert string
resources:

"That file doesn't contain any BinSCII data."

I can't see any reference to BINSCII in the menus, documentation, etc.,
and I haven't managed to invoke this dialog in the normal usage of GSHK...

Future feature, perhaps?

:-)
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: *** Enough of the ModZap War! ***
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:38:54 GMT

In article <XH9isB4w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
>bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>
>> That's it.  I, and I'm sure many others, have grown extremely tired
>> of this ModZap war.  Please cease the flames.  They have nothing to 
>> do with Apple IIs, and frankly, they must make the 10,000 or so people who
>> read this newsgroup think we're all a bunch of 13-yr olds.
>> 
>> If you insist on continuing, TAKE IT TO EMAIL.
>
>Didn't moderation fail, Jawaid? If people want to act like children, then 
>let them (or us, whatever). I seem to remember something about a piracy 
>flame-war a while back (or was that a "discussion"?)
 
No, that was a misunderstanding, which was settled in email, but continued
in comp.sys.apple2 for quite some time. 
 
>Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
>t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
>.... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 488-8401, 300-38400 hst

Rich

payner@netcom.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Subject: DTUtilities 3.3
Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:44:05 GMT


Question: has anyone had problems using DTUtilities3.3's Quickswitch option
under System 6.0? I get corrupted icon images when in Finder when I use it. 
I ask because originally I was using QuickLaunch but when I added DTU3.3, the 
QL file kept becoming corrupted (ProSEL reports it as having a bad file
block count).

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125 East Wilson Hall-MSU         gross.  But it's not for the timid."
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From: nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Weird toolbox questions
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:49:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Oct16.084955.5513
Organization: The Universal Society for the Prevention of Reality

In article <mattd-141092163721@city-lights.apple.com> mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
>DO NOT TRY TO LOAD MORE THAN ONE FILE WITH THE SAME USER ID.  You'll
>confuse
>the hell out of the Loader and the rest of the system.

I suspected as much...the Loader's tables (as documented in the ProDOS 16
Reference) didn't seem to be adequate to handle that situation...

>> [ Where can I get documentation on ExpressLoad segments? ]
>When that information was new, only about 3 people wanted it and so they
>got copies of the ERS.  We never bothered to spend the hours necessary to
>get it into a publishable form because it's just not important to most
>people.  Heck, I don't even know if _I_ still have that ERS.

Is the ERS available to people who aren't Registered or Certified
Developers?   If so, would it be possible for me to get a copy? (I don't
know if anybody else is interested, but if a Technical Note were to be
written on the subject, I'd certainly read it...)

The reason I'm asking is that my machine language development environment
consists of LISA 5.0 and an ancient version of APW (the startup screen
says "PRODOS 16 v1.0"), neither of which includes anything resembling the
Express utility.

(*sigh*  I need a REAL job, so I can afford things like hard drives and
ORCA...)

               - Neil Parker
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: FTP help needed PART II
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:00:00 GMT

Okay....thus far I've tried 

FTP>cd "pub/apple2"

Doesn't work

FTP>set remote "pub/apple2"

Doesn't work

FTP>set dir [.pub]

Doesn't work.

Any other help?

Krish
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: EXPO EAST-SPELLBINDER
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:16:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Was anyone at Apple Expo East in  Boston? I heard something about a
game called Spellbinder. I guess it's by a bunch of 13 year olds. Any
thoughts?
E-Mail me at virginia.a.reed@dartmouth.edu
Thanks
                   -LX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2