HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: God Bless Kim Young Sam
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:44:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

swkim@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu writes:


>God Bless Kim Young Sam !!!!!!

>Please, president elected Kim Young Sam.

>Please make our country greater one.  For five thousand
>years, we have lived terrible life.  We were always abused
>from foreigns.  When can we be a superpower of the world,
>YS ?  Everything is on your hands, YS.  I'm begging you,
>let's make the strongest country.  We will.


What do you want from him, a position in his cabinet or something?
And you want him to know how you feel about him, perhaps you should
send him a lengthy letter with your heart, instead of posting it on the net.
He's never going to read yours, sorry for you.  Get a life !!!!


Jung
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: Parliamentary System
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:03:06 GMT

In article <85819@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>       
>      After Roh's election, I  am very confused with the concept of "political
>      prisoners."  
>
a few days ago, Rho released Im SooKyung and Moon GyuHyun.
do you think they can be put into the same category with general criminals?

>      I know my oppinion can be labeled as ultra-conservative or something like
>      that. 
>

no, you're not conservative
you're just a far-right-extremist.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: TO S. W. KIM (Re: To Hankyu Lee)
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:06:26 GMT


In article <1992Dec22.080851.26750@sbcs.sunysb.edu>,
swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:

> Subject: To Hankyu Lee 
> ....

Was this article your private message to HanKyu Lee?
Why do you use usenet for your private mail? 
You do not know how to reply to a posting?

When I am reading news, usually I am tracking a subject.

Please, consider other netters.

Han
From: hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu (Rachael H. Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: (CFD): GePoDong MaEul Bus (GePo Village Bus)
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:14:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <103001@gmbug.gepodong.or.kr> hseung@gmbug.gepodong.or.kr (Huh-Poong Seung) writes:
>
>Dear Fellow Netters, 
>
>It brings great pain to inform you that our trusty MaEul Bus service
>is nearing its termination date due to lack of government funding for
>the SeMaEul Movement (New Village Movement).  Granted, our economy
>desperately needs high-technology industry to stay internationally
>competitive, but in the light of all these hoopla doopla, the diligent
>life of the common man is helplessly falling apart!  Do you realize

I would like to work as a volunteer in your organization.  What sort
of miscellaneous positions do you have open besides working as a bus
driver?  Are there any SeMaEul-spirited community services being
pursued by G.M.B.U.G. at the moment?

--
Rachael H. Seung                   *   *         Study Today 
hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu       \|/ \|/        Salsa Tomorrow
From: btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: election follow-ups
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:17:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

Thanks guys for your posting election results.
I am rather interested in the election follow-ups.
Did DJ fairly accept the result or as usual, still any die-hard reservation?
If any information, please post it.
I am look forward to fresh resignation of defeated old boys.
Thanks in advance.

Byungtae Lee
* The more emails, the more trees saved unless you try to print them out.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: aftermath of election
Reply-To: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:12:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.043717.21790@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>>btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>
>>>O.K. I don't have any problems with putting those people in the jail (I assume
>>>they were judged properly by law). O.K. here's a question.
>>>Prez. Roh and his Minja government broke the law on 'Jibang Jachije'.
>>>Shouldn't they be in the jail? What's your opinion on that?
>>>Just for my curiosity.
>>
>>        Do you think I insisted to enforce "normal" laws to  particular
>>        group of people? I wasn't.  In addition, not punishing one party does
>>        not give the excuse of other parties' violation legally.
>>        I do not like your example. For the role of devil advocate, I want to
>>        point out your logical weakness in this example.
>>        First of all, legally, president has previlege of not being prosecuted
>>        for what he did during his tenure except for some critical crimes.
>>        Secondly, "Ji-bang ja chie" law does not have any punishment article.
>>        Third, MinJa, strictly legally was not the authority to execute that
>>        law. It is not the party but the government to execute laws written by
>>        national assembly. In addition, I hope you can rememeber Minjoo blocked
>>        the first meeting of the assembly when the ruling party wanted to mend 
>>        that law?   I am not saying I am supporting the ruling party or 
>>        government's bleach but am just pointing out the "LOGIC" in your
>>        example.     I hope your curiosity is fufilled. 
>
>
 [deleted], something I confused
>

yes, I think you are right. President shouldn't have to be in a jail.
According to the constitution, president should have to execute the law,
so Prez. Roh might have violated the constitution, but since he has some
previlege and he can be kicked out only by congress (TanHaek Sochu) and 
obviously congress didn't want to kick him out, yes, I think he
shouldn't have to be in a jail. 
Well, I think people are sick of my stupid postings, so can we use E.mail?
From: dongsoo@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Enough is enuff!
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:06:02 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	Greetings from the center of the Great Plains.
	Happy New Year!

	Too bad that we should encounter with so much junk and crap until we
find the gem. So depressing that we should live our whole lives till the end to
realize the wisdom of life. Life happens to be just a pain. We are doomed.

	We have seen and tolerated all your so called discussions which are 
groundless, lack of knowledge, and pretty much biased. You people were
stubborn, lazy, and very annoying. +  || __|  |_  | |  is the only exception!			
                                   O =|| /\|- --- |_|-
                                               |                            
	Because life is short, we have to find the gem as quickly as possible
and reach to the conclusion. Do you know what I mean? I mean "let's cut the
crap." So now I declare "enough is enuff" (Kelly Bundy) and set the conclusion
to the almost half a century old quarrel. Here it is.     

	The great 'Godori' people of the greater 'Golf' republic eventually
chose O3 and swept the board. All the others were  []|- |==  !!!!!     
                                                    O   |--  !!!!!    
                                                         |   !!!!!  
                                                        ---    
                                                         O
	PERIOD.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Re: To Ho Dor Seung
Reply-To: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:34:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.121400.48@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.100424.27476@sbcs.sunysb.edu> swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>>Are you a student in University of Penn. or University of Hamheung?

>I happended to finger him (not her - i think)
>according to the following, his REAL name is Hyunsuk Seung.
>and studing anatomy in penn.
>
>Hey, Hyunsuk.
>tell the truth, who really you are and what your real opinion is.
>or shut up, ok?
[fingered display proof deleted]

	His posting seems obvious enough for me to have a good laugh,
and I need not try to trace his identity.  He has been quite honest to
let most of us (I must say "most" I suppose after reading your
article) realize his patterns and consistent topics of articles. Ease
up a bit, take a big breath, cross your leg, and enjoy for once...
	Hamheung nangmyun... I am off to Seoul tomorrow, and hey
Hyunsuk, you've just added another dish onto my already lengthy list
forth generated by your obsession.  Good timing.  Now, what am I
suppose to do to meet a peasant from NK and to take shower/bath
somewhere and to steal another set of cloth and also need hair gel I
suppose and ..man I am confused.  It's got to be easier to eat a bowl
of Nangmyun than having to go through this!

	Wish everyone a great ending and beginning of a new year...

	Kurtis Gag-Lae Kim
	gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
	THE SEEKER OF TRUTH
From: sang@ross.com (sang yoo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: question:
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:42:12 GMT
Organization: ROSS Technology, Inc. Austin, Tx.
Originator: sang@sedona


is there a korean word-processing software for mac?
is macintosh a good choice for that purpose?
i'm trying to buy a pc for my dad whose primary(maybe only) 
use of it will be writing a book(korean).  i'm only 
familiar with workstations... and i know mac is very easy
to use.  any information will be greatly appreciated.  

 sang@ross.com

-- 
-temporary sig file 
-nothingnothingnothing
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: To Ho Dor Seung
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:00:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
> Are you a student in University of Penn. or University of Hamheung?

Yes, your statement is absolutely correct!  No doubt about that.  What
is your real name, SWKIM?  Don't cheat us anymore.  We are not stupid.


shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:
> Hey, Hyunsuk.
> tell the truth, who really you are and what your real opinion is.

My name is Hyunsuk Seung, and I am hungry.  How about you?

P.s.  Your name reminds me of me.  Are you me?

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: wife beating
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article 11447 of soc.culture.korean, armally@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (arvind
mally) says, in part:


>  I have heard from one of my friends who knows a
>police officer in the San Jose area in California that most of the calls
>they get on domestic disputes are from Asian-Americans (Chinese, Koreans,
>Vietnamese, Indians etc)...apparently it is a very unfortunate but common
>problem.

           (paragraph deleted)

>Domestic violence seems to be a problem in the Asian-American community
>in general.  It will be interesting to know if anyone of you has any more
>insight on this subject.


If you look a little deeper into this, I think you'll find that domestic
violence is a problem with every ethnic group.  Your friend's abservation
may be partially attributable to the fact that there are a lot of Asians
living in the South Bay area.  I remember reading a few years ago that
EVERYONE in L.A. county was a member of a minority group, owing to the
ethnic diversity in that area.  My guess is that the same may very well be
true farther north as well.

If that's the case, and if you're going to regard the members of a number of
groups (Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc.) as belonging to a SINGLE group,
then that very large group is, of course, going to have a higher amount of
criminal activity than any smaller group.
From: btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: re:Parliamentary System
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:26:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Why don't you post that number? (plz include Minja's too)

          You seemed confused "Creation" with "Changing" regarding this
          matter. (JI-KU-DANG ChangDang vs. GAEPYUN)


>          In additioin, even in Seoul, the margin was minimal.  How much
>          do you think he got outside Ex-Cholla people and liberal young
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    **************
>          college or college-graduate voters?  Even in national assembl
           **********************************
>          election, there was clear trend that DP got more votes from the 
>          election-sectors with high density of Ex-Cholla people.

Now you are insulting Democratic party supporters (including me)
who are not ex-cholla. So you think 34% (36?) of Korean are Honam or ex-Honam??
Wonder which junior high school you went.
         
          Didn't I include "liberal" or "progressive" young generation in
          DJ supporting group?  Read more carefully when you want to accuse
          somebody , gentleman.  Didn't I write even 20's and 30's group
          consists of more than 60% votes of total eligible votes?
          Do you have any IQ to figure out what I said? Do you read only
          half of sentences? Go back and see what you cited from my posting.
          Did I say DJ did not have "ANY" support outside Cholla?
          What I said was he failed to overcome his limitation even though 
          he made some progress.   

          Especially I am very interested in the way you are exchanging
          different opinion. Especailly  your last sentence reminds that very
          clearly.  (I am very proud of my junior high school though.)       
          I know if you keep this way, I have to give up responding to your
          thread.  This is what I called "dogmatic" or intolerance of different
          analysis.
From: tyoon@husc8.harvard.edu (Tehshik Yoon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: The King?
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:03:28 GMT


I was in Seoul over break, and I visited the palace of the last Chosun
kings of Korea.  I noticed that the last king and his Japanese wife had a
son.  I was told that the crown prince immigrated to the United States
after the second world war and married an American.  Is there any validity
to that, and if so, did they have any children?

Idle curiosity.

-Tehshik Yoon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: won@seas.gwu.edu (Won Lee)
Subject: Re: Another answers
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:53:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.014550.28220@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:
>In article <85926@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>>
>>        when can we have such society?
>>
>>        Give me more specific conditions for that. 
>>        
>
>again obvious answer!
>change the out-of-date law!
>AND president himself obey all laws and keep his promises.
>
	How define the out-of-date law ?
	Who shoud define the out-of-date law ?

        I do not think changing some laws change society a lot.
        
-- 
_______________________________________________________________
Won  Lee                     Dept. of EE&CS 
won@seas.gwu.edu       The George Washington University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: hojoon@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hojoon Choi)
Subject: RE: Parliamentary System
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:40:35 GMT


I'm afraid I missed your postings....
I'd like to know how you think about the parliamentary system.
What is the justification for changing presidential system?
Is it to prevent heated presidential election and stabilize politics?
In this case, I think we don't need to change the constitution again.
Is there anyone who prefer this system?
Then could you let me know your reason?

It is just curiosity not intended to dispute.
Thanks in advance.
hojoon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: bbong-jjak
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:22:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.013008.563@news.acns.nwu.edu>, phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
> I love answering this kind of questions.  The answer is "I don't drink."
> Since most Koreans drink, I am almost always assumed to drink socially.  It
> is a great pleasure for me to look at those "I don't understand this"
> expression flashing by when I tell them a flat "I don't drink" with pride.
> 

Now, now, I know you have to get some pleasure from something but from that?
You must be quite pathetic.  I never intended to imply that every netter was
a drinker.  BTW, I have lived both in Korea and Scotland for a bit and I can 
assure you you will get that "I don't understand this" look more often from a Scot than a Korean.  If you need to get a kick out of something like that, I
have got a suggestion for you, there, "Bal-DDak-GO-Jam-Ina-Ja-Ra" !

> It is also fun to ruin the mood for the rest by being the only one who
> refuses to drink.  But it is fun only if I happened to be stuck with a crowd
> that I do not care for.  With close friends, I have so much to talk about
> that we do not need any alcoholic drink at all.
> 

Well, if you thought you are ruining the mood of the people you hang out by
"refusing" to drink, you were not.  Or at least I never get my mood spoiled
by a rotten "non-drinker-and-proud-of-it" anyway.  Perhaps I was too drunk
to notice that creature down at the corner of the room picking his nose. :)

Now, I don't claim to be a genius or anything but last time I checked I was
able to drink and talk at the same time to my close friends.  Heck, I seem to
do better of each when they are done at the same time.  Maybe you should try
it.
> By the way, I CAN drink.  I just get more kick out of not drinking. :)
> 

That is very good, James, now can you drink and spin on your head at the same
time? :)


> James Choi

Henry E Chon, "Give me a 26 ouncer of Glenfiddich and some of them long thick
               cigars and I will be fine, thank you, James"

-- 
***************************************************************************

Henry E Chon
7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Please note this account may be disconnected in the
                         new year.  Direct all mails to the next one if so.)
hechon@uwovax.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario, London, Canada

"Do not worry about your problems in Mathematics, I can assure you mine are
 still greater."  A. Einstein
From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: Re: Re:parliamentary System
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:00:08 GMT


In article <85837@ut-emx.uucp>, btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae
Lee) writes:

>       other "evils".  I believe after late 80's, Korean students movement 
>       became "problematic" rather than keen alarming role.
>       Some people say that it was because of "CHOOSA".  
>       However, it is clearly not what I supported for and what I
wanted to live
>       for when I was a college student.   I can not guess your age. But
>       I still clearly remeber my endless anger and desparate when we were 
>	under     "YooSin."   I miss the student movement of that time.  

I miss it too. Am I too old?

Han
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re:Another Anwers
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:53:50 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:

In article <85926@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>
>        when can we have such society?
>        Give me more specific conditions for that. 
>        

again obvious answer!
change the out-of-date law!
AND president himself obey all laws and keep his promises.

        What aspects do you want to change?
        Give me specfic revisions of labor laws, assembly and demonstration law
        and the nation security laws?
        I told you that at least labor laws and assembly and deomonstration
         laws are now very similar to those of advanced countries and
        international standards.  

        So if we have a good president, then all problem can be gone easily?
        What a simple country it is!
        If YS does not violate any law, will people stop giving bribes to 
        policemen? Will students stop throwing Molotov cocktails?
        Will self-employed owners pay full share of tax?
        I envy your simplistic solution very much.  

        Have you ever think why we have such lousy government?
        Lousy government makes lousy citizens but lousy citizens also
        make lousy government.  The quality of political system is merely 
        reflection of that of citizens.
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: wife beating
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1263@blue.cis.pitt.edu> babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon) writes:
>
>In Taiwan, koreans have a reputation of beating their wives. 

I thought it was the other way around.  An AJumMa who used to babysit
me back in Seoul constantly beat her husband up with a monstrous broom
I made for her while locked up in a closet.

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re:this is WARM.  SKIP,  unless you are Mr. Byeungtae Lee
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:11:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <86053@ut-emx.uucp>, btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Byungtae Lee) writes:
>From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO) writes:





   -----   Enough is Enuff  --------------


   Bo Jackson knows everything.  We don't know anything.


   Anyway,  Happy New Year and Wish All The Best to You.



                     Minho Jo, Lehigh University
                     Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
                     Industrial Engineering Department


 My ultimate goal is to build, "Warm-Hearted Human Integrated Society".
 *****************************************************************************
From: jwjang@kaist.ac.kr (Chang Jin-woong)
Subject: YS IS NEW PREZ
Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:19:28 GMT

sorry, I didn't keep my promise...

I don't feel like saying anything...

WE GOTTA WATCH YS'S FACE FOR FIVE MORE YEARS AT EVERY NINE O'CLOCK!!!!

what a hell!!

Liszt
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Christmas Eve in Seoul (Little bit long!)
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:44:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
| I agree.  Now that he (she) has moved out of the food subject, we are
| seeing more diverse point of view.  As far as I can tell, his English
| writing is very decent, grammatically and stylistically.
| ...
| I haven't seen his poem in English yet.  And I am a bit concerned about his
| Korean writing style due to his occasional spelling slips that he should
| not have commited.  Judging from his ability to manipulate regional
| dialects I would say he is a fluent Korean speaker.  But, judging from very
| limited hangul posting that he has done, his writing is rusty.

My English is still rusty.  Rather, my skillful Korean writing
deserves all the compliments.  Any computer scientists out there
willing to develop X-based HanGul drawer using ASCII character set?  I
am talking about  ___           ___    ___
                    / |_ |   |_ |   |_ __| |_
                      |  |__ |  |__ |  |__ |  instead of GaNaDaRa.

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu