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From: gnr@lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander)
Subject: MAILING LIST: Guns N' Roses
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:29:11 GMT

GNR Fans and Flamers:

I am starting an unmoderated, non-digested Guns N' Roses mailing list. It's
high time that GNR fans (and those who *love to hate* GNR) have a place that
is devoted entirely to the Gunners, their antics, their fans, their riots.

If you want to comment on any aspect of Guns N' Roses -- positive or negative
-- this is the place to do it. We'll post tour dates, set lists and the
latest illnesses suffered by band members. We'll keep you posted on the
latest riots, with running totals of damages and arrests. We'll let you know
when a show is on, then canceled, then on again -- all in the same day!

Lets get some lively discussions going! Take off the gloves! Get in the ring!

Do you think Axl is a jerk or that people just don't understand him? Do
you think fans are justified to riot when GNR walks off stage? Do you think
Stephanie Seymour is insane for loving Axl? Do you think the "Don't Cry" video
is the most bizzare piece of film you've ever seen? Do you know how Steph
dies in November Rain? Do you think Slash is still shooting smack? Do you
know why Axl smokes cigarettes with an Aqua-Filter attached? Do you think
"Appetite for Destruction" was the best rock n' roll album in years and "Use
Your Illusion" sucked (or vice versa)? Do you ask yourself questions like
these but have no one to discuss them with? Do you wonder when the Guns N'
Roses documentary movie will be edited and released and is it gonna be way
cooler than Madonna's Truth or Dare?

Then join the list!

Fill your mailbox with all kinds of innuendo and rumors about GNR. Remember,
it's unmoderated so you can say *exactly* what you want. Curse and swear! 
Commit suicide as you type and tell us about it so we can enjoy it with you!

DO NOT POST A FOLLOW-UP TO THIS GROUP. SEND A REQUEST TO:

gnr-request@lmt.mn.org

Just mail your address in the BODY of the text (the headers get hosed
sometimes) and include "GNR" in the subect line. I'll add you to the
list and forward everything you send me to everyone else on the list and
you will get everything everyone else sends.

-- Alex --
From: smsst8+@pitt.edu (Steven M Scholnick)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Def Leppard tour dates
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:13:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Does anyone have tour dates for the current US tour?  Please post them
or mail them to me.  Thanx.


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From: "john fix" <john.fix@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: best drummer????
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:01:01 EST
Reply-To: "john fix" <john.fix@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

LSopinion is the best drummer???  I think:
                              Neil Peart
                              Stewart Copeland
                              Phil Collins (Earlier stuff)

        Phil Collins?  Don't you mean Chester Thompson?

        Seriously, here's my pick list, leaning towards
        real "rock and roll" drummers...

                Kenny Aranoff   (best around right now IMHO)
                Max Weinberg    (shows simple can be better)
                Charlie Watts   (a snare drum is all he needs)

        Of course, these guys all are "basic" drummers with 
        minimal kits... along with Stewart Copeland.  I'm
        always impressed by a drummer who can carry the beat
        with small drum sets, as opposed to the Nick Mason
        school of drumming with twenty seven roto-toms, double
        bass drums, etc.

                                      John 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: tossu@krk.fi (Sami Koskinen)
Subject: Re: Best Drummer????
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:53:43 GMT

lludwig@hubcap.clemson.edu (Larry "Ludes" Ludwig) writes:
: Hey...  Since we are talking about the best of's.... Who do you think in your
: opinion is the best drummer???   

	Dave Weckl, absolutely the best! This guy comes out from the
	big mass of drummers with exellent technique and the most
	unbelievable sharpness. I have had his solo album 'Master Plan'
	in my shelf quite a long time, but although he plays well
	in that record, too, he is a drummer that must be heard in
	live performance.

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From: agw1@ra.msstate.edu (Alex G. Waterson)
Subject: Rush mailing lists
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:17:43 GMT

please, somebody send me address and info for mailing lists!
Fellow fans respond, quickly!

Alex(not Lifeson)

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jeh@redwood25.cray.com (Jeffrey E. Henning)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis Rock of the 90's
Originator: jeh@redwood25
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:46:41 CDT


In article <18AUG199215301045@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afcanav@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI) writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.224529.4312@lmt.mn.org>, alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander) writes...
> >In article <17AUG199213064313@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI) writes:
> >> 
> >> Hello, can anyone out there (maybe in the Twin Cities) help me out?
> >> 
> >> I was recently in Minneapolis and heard a great radio station-they called 
> >> themselves the Rock of the 90's, and had a playlist like a college station-
> >> I found it very refreshing and enjoyed it beyond belief. I really enjoyed
> >> the area, and loved the radio station.
> >> 
> > 
> >Well, the area is still here, but the radio station you so loved to listen to
> >just went (aaaaack!!!) Country Western. There's a letter writing campaign, but
> >it won't do any good. Too many farmers up here. And what do farmers do on the
> >weekend? Dance some lame-ass Achy Breaky shit!
> > 
> >There's some kinda Achy Breaky conspiracy out there threatening us like a 
> >cancer. We must put a stop to it! Screw the Don Henley Must Die campaign and
> >put the Michael Bolton Must Die campaign on hold. BILLY RAY CYRUS MUST DIE!
> > 
> >-- Alex --
> 
> WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?????  I WAS JUST THERE!!!!!  HONESTLY-DID IT HAPPEN 
> OVER THE WEEKEND??? I've been raving to all my friends here in Cleveland 
> about this, and now this happens? I can't believe it. And going COUNTRY is 
> worse than going CLASSIC ROCK!!!
> 
> Is this true? I need confirmation!!
>

It is true.  KJJO (104 FM) is changing their platform again (it has
been almost two years now) to COUNTRY.  There are alot of unhappy
faces, but it is going to happen in September (I think around the
15th).

I guess it's going to be 93X, ZROCK, and cassettes for alot of people...

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>
From: landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: GNR/METALLICA DEBACLE IN MONTREAL
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:49:44 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

>He doesn't fucking care anymore. Check it out: In his RockLine interview, he
>said that Steven Adler got a lump sum of one tenth of the money that Axl had
>made on Appetite. Then a little later he mentioned that this sum was $1.5
>million. That means Axl's take -- up until the time Steven was axed -- was
>$15 million. That was JUST for Appetite. Now how much do you think he has made
>touring and for the Illusion set?
>
>The guy is filthy fucking rich. A multi-millionaire.
>
>He doesn't need you nor I anymore. It's all just gravy from here on in. He
>could pull a Marlon Brando and buy a Pacific island tomorrow and never talk
>to anyone again if that's what he wanted.

You're telling me.

I live in Vancouver, up in British Columbia and a mega-huge concert along with Metallica and Faith No More was just cancelled.  (I didn't have tickets though).

I'm sure he's weeping.

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)

  |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
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landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: trr@dlogics.com (Tim Ringwood)
Subject: Re: Camper Van Beethoven
Organization: Datalogics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:37:43 GMT

gary@rocker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Gary Braswell) writes:


>	I have followed CVB for several years, but haven't bought material
>	from either of the new startup groups.  My question is:

>	  Is Jonathan Segal in either of the new groups?  IMOHO he was

In short no.  Last fall he toured with a group called Hiroshima Firebomb
(I think that was the name), which opened forn the Monks of Doom in Chicago.

He does have a solo record out, which is pretty laid back but quite good.
His new group was more guitar orientated then his solo album.  A member
of his new band said they have an album in Jan of '92, which I never saw.




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From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Christopher Lee Lott -- One foot in the grave and the other slipping)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GNR/METALLICA DEBACLE IN MONTREAL
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:14:14 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <1992Aug14.010123.9358@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, pck8t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Paul Christopher Kirkitelos) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.123315.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Christopher Lee Lott -- One foot in the grave and the other slipping) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.035039.9141@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, pck8t@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Paul Christopher Kirkitelos) writes:
>>> In article <BswAo9.HF0@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mdmelvin@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Tyrant) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Aug10.175628.7993@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR) writes:
> 
> 
>>
>>Everyone keeps ranting that GnR should respect where their fans put them and
>>how much he sucks-- but they are the ones that made him famous in the first
>>place! 
>>
>>chris
>>poet and pauper
> 
> And they are the ones that can stop listening to GNR and stop buying their
> merchandise if they feel that the band has no respect for them, thus 
> helping to bring the band down in much the same way they brought it up.  
> 
> Unfortunately there are two many mindless idiots out there who will always
> go along with the pack and not stand up for their own rights as humans
> and consumers, so this will never happen.
> 

But as the rest of my post said, and someone else echoed earlier, why should I
not listen to music that I like-- just because the guys who make it are
assholes? I don't think so. There would be an awful lot of good music lost
that way.  

I listen to a lot of different kinds of music, and though I still think
Appetite was GnR's best Album, I also like their first two. Enough that I went
ahead and bought the CD's after giving the tapes a listen for a while... 

You don'thave to be a mindless idiot to like any band's music, but I think you
do have to be one to think that the music sounds any different because of any
tendency of the band members' personality. If I stop liking the music I will
stop listening to it-- just like EVERYONE does when a band they like stops
pleasing them. It is a simple fact of life and something too many people who
are pissed off or hate GnR or any other band choose to forget.

I have seen GnR twice, but it was a long time ago.. and I am not fool enough
to put my money on them to see them live now-- and if I did and it got
cancelled I wouldn't be that surprised. But theoir music still sounds the same
regardless.... 

chris
poet and pauper
From: RayTrace@cup.portal.com (Ray William Kulberda)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Emerson, Lake, & Palmer's Black Moon (?)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 21:39:21 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I've listened to it AND went to the concert!  VERY COOL!!!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: sikora@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Riyaz Sikora)
Subject: Re: Best Drummer????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:50:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.013329.22952@ra.msstate.edu> lewis@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Lewis Beard) writes:
>Ok, I want to put in my opinion too. Here are my fav percussionists, in order:
>
>Bill Bruford
>Carl Palmer
>Billy Cobham
>Barriemore Barlow
>Simon Phillips
>Armando Pereza
>Cozy Powell
>Neil Peart
>
>
>
>I have this itching feeling im forgetting someone i really love, but thats ok,

Yes you are. You have forgotten.... (drum roll, please).... Steve Gadd.

>Lewis Beard
>lewis@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu


-riyaz.


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From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: NEW ROGER WATERS
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:44:22 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

As the release date for "Amused To Death" grows ever closer, my
curiosity and anticipation also grow. I have not yet heard the single or
seen the video for "What God Wants, God Gets", but will keep my ears
open for it. Questions, Questions, Questions however! Will the record be
another concept album? Is the video on MTV or the single on Top40 radio
(I'm not saying this would be good or bad. I'm just curious)? I know
Jeff Beck plays guitar on the album, but is it also true that Don Henley
worked with Waters in the studio on this as well (perhaps a result of
their live colaborations in the Walden Woods benefit show(s))? Will the
album be released on the CBS label as his two previous albums and the
Floyd material were? Is there a Cd or cassette single out in the record
stores yet? Anybody have any thoughts or opinions on everyone's favorite
ex-Floydian?
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From: skershaw@alsvid.une.edu.au (Shane Kershaw )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Gold (Was re: Identify/complete this late 70's song!)
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:43:00 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)


The chords as best I can remember them after 13 years of not playing it.

Enjoy. (Memory suggest that the F in the verse may in fact be a G, but inner
aural sense says it's F. I'll check it out when I get home)

From article <1992Aug11.191913.11610@midway.uchicago.edu>, by sens@quads.uchicago.edu (jeffrey david sensabaugh):
> "Gold"
> John Stewart
>
Intro Am / / / | Am / / / | F / / / | Am / / / | 
      Am / / / | Am / / / | F / / / | Am / / / | 
  Am
> When the lights go down
> In the California town
  F                        Am
> People are in for the evening
  Am
> I jump into my car
> And I throw in my guitar
  F                             Am
> My heart beatin' time with my breathin'
> 
> CHORUS:
  F
> Driving over *Canan* 
  Em
> Singing to my soul  
  F                                   Am
> People out there turnin' music into gold
>
  Am 
> (Now) My buddy Jim Bass
> He's a-workin' pumpin' gas
  F                         Am
> And he makes $2.50 for an hour.
  Am
> He's got rhythm in his hands
> As he's tapping on the cans
  F                             Am
> (He) Sings rock'n'roll in the shower.
> 
> CHORUS (middle line changed to 'Singing to _his_ soul')
>
  Am 
> (Ah) California Girls
> Are the greatest in the world
  F                      Am
> Each one's a song in the making;
  Am
> (They're) Singing right to me
> I can hear the melody
  F                      Am
> Story is there for the taking
> 
> CHORUS(2x with a Stevie Nicks 'EEuuuuwww' in between)
> 
> REPEAT FIRST VERSE
> 
> CHORUS(2x)
> 
  F                                 Em
  Driving over Canan, singing to my soul
  F                                    Am
> People out there, turning music into gold  REPEAT x 4

> into gold' INTO FADE

Outro (Fade)
      Am / / / | Am / / / | F / / / | Am / / / | 
      Am / / / | Am / / / | F / / / | Am / / / |  x ad nauseum
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From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Asia Aqua
Summary: A new Asia Album
Keywords: Asia, Rock, Yes, Aqua
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:03:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I just got my hands on the new Asia album, Aqua. It is not available
in the U.S. so my local CD store had to import it at the price of
$26.99. 

The cover artwork is not by Roger Dean, but looks very close to what
he had been doing. The artwork is of a flying dolphin creature floating
through space above so wreakage of a space/star base.

Features Geoff Downes on Keyboards
         Steve Howe on Guitars
         Carl Palmer on Drums

Newcomers are John Payne doing Vocals and Bass
              Al Pitrelli with more Guitars

         John Wetton is NOT on this album at all... boo hoo...

The music is a little more hard-edged, but rocks. I would like to know
who or what other bands the newcomers are from!
-Dan
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From: kabadkar@CS.ColoState.EDU (ashwin kabadkar)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: James Hetfield injured
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:20:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <l8juq7INNe8b@earth.cs.utexas.edu> eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric Thomas Brown) writes:
>
>
>P.S.  Ashwin, here's a special .sig just to piss you off (since you've
>      succeeded in pissing me off ever since this whole debacle started.
>
>      "And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking,
>       Racing around to come up behind you again.
>       The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
>       Shorter of breath and one day closer to death."
>				
>				"Time"
>				by Wrathchild America
>				from "Climbin' The Walls"
>
  Piss me off? I kinda like it.

  o o
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  \_/

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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Asia's _Aqua_
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug20.204302.22759@meaddata.com>, calondis@meaddata.com (David Calondis) writes...
>Asia is not Asia without John Whetton, IMHO, my 0.02 cents, etc.

Actually, if I had a choice between John Wetton and Steve Howe, I would just
look for another bassist/singer.

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rest of the world doesn't like Rush. REM fans consider the rest of the world
beneath their social level to notice. Kate Bush fans love the rest of the
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From: selent@fraser.sfu.ca (Frank S.)
Subject: Re: Latest GNR/Metallica cancellations
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.184300.15105@lmt.mn.org> alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander) writes:
>In article <d3r103Bz5cuB00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>          Aug  12  Denver, CO    POSTPONED
>>          Aug  14  San Diego, CA POSTPONED
>>          Aug  17  Vancouver, BC CANCELLED
>
>
>Why did they *cancel* Vancouver? Does Canada not want them in the country
>anymore after the Montreal incident?
>
>-- Alex --
>

The reason the Vancouver show was cancelled because BC Place was unavailable
when MetallicA/Faith No More/guns wanted to reschedule.  At least that is
the reason that Perryscope, the local promoter, gave us as to why the
show is cancelled.

BTW the last time MetallicA played Vancouver in May there was a lot of
damage done to the Coliseum.  A local radio station interviewed Lars
after the first show and Lars said that $27,000 damage had been done.
Most of it was from destruction of seats that they put on the floor.
That could be another reason why.

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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Latest GNR/Metallica cancellations
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:41:04 GMT
Reply-To: fierro@xserver.uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


         Aug  12  Denver, CO    POSTPONED
         Aug  14  San Diego, CA POSTPONED
         Aug  17  Vancouver, BC CANCELLED
         Aug  18  Seattle, WA    ???
         Aug  21  Oakland, CA   ???
         Aug  22  Pasdena, CA   ???
         Aug  25  Phoenix, AZ   ???
         Aug  27  Las Cruces, NM    ???
         Aug  29  New Orleans   ???
         Sept 2   Orlando, FL    ???

Please, if anyone can play any Hetfield licks, give the tour guys a call!!!


  Doug

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