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From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neat CDEVs--but how turn them on?
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:36:16 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Sep4.210615.5143@gw.wmich.edu>, cooneys@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> Sorry if this is a naive question: I've d/l'd two nifty 
> CDEVs that I'd like to use: LONG/SHORTDATE and POPCHAR.
> I put both in the Control Panel, as directed by my Mac book. 
> But how do you activate them?
> 
> Both give a nice little panel with options to select, but 
> nothing happens, even after rebooting.
> 

Just to answer myself in part, in case anyone else 
experiences the same difficulty: I've got POPCHAR working, 
simply by persisting. You have to click in a top corner of 
your choice. I hadn't gone far enough up into the corner. 
And when I first succeeded there were conflicts with Moire, 
which was also then using the same corner. All's now well.

This utility is absolutely marvellous! It gives you a 
character map of the font you're using in your top document, 
whether in a word processing program or elsewhere. Further, 
it gives a read-out of the key combinations for each 
highlighted characters. And also, simply clicking on a 
character in the chart inserts it in your document.

The creator is listed as Guenther Blaschek. He's a public 
benefactor, wherever he is!

LONGSHORTDATE continues to baffle me.


               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: whitmore@iastate.edu (Kurt D Whitmore)
Subject: Re: FTP HELP NEEDED (Please read this)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:47:04 GMT

In <1992Sep11.220455.2255@brandonu.ca> $ennsnr@brandonu.ca writes:

Could you include your system configuration. It would help a lot!

kw



>FPT HELP NEEDED!!!

>Sometimes when I login to an ftp address via anonymous, I am not allowed to 
>view or enter directories. Does anyone know why this happens. It has
>happened to me at the following ftp addresses:

>	sumex-aim.stanford.edu
>	ftp.apple.com

>Any help would be greatly appreciated!

>"To be average scares the HELL out of me"
>Neil Enns
>$ennsnr@brandonU.ca
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From: diessel@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Thomas Diessel)
Subject: Re: ATM for free
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:00:36 GMT

landwebe@math.rutgers.edu (Peter Landweber) writes:

>I understand that Apple has arranged with Adobe to distribute
>ATM for free (+ shipping and handling) until Apple incorporates
>it into a future system software release (not 7.1).  Does
>anybody know if this offer is still valid, and if so, what
>is the number I call?  Thank you.
Two weeks ago I got with an Apple mailing an offer from Adobe Systems Europe
to order a 'special version' of ATM for 32 DM (or $ 20). The phone number in UK
was +44 506 440144.

Thomas Diessel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: LCII Sys7 Where did the Disk Memory Go?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:50:57 GMT

Some friend of mine just bought a Mac LCII with 4M of Ram and an 80M internal
HD. When they first got the Mac it only had the system software loaded. 
At that time the disk said it had 6Meg used, 74M available. After loading all
the software they bought with the system the disk said 18M used, 57Meg 
available. What happened to the other 5 Megs of HD space? Has anyone seen 
this before?

Thanks

Skip
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My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 6 Sep 1992 12:56:00 CDT
From: Chuck Metalitz <U13272@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: SE/30 dies with addition of Syquest

When I added a new Index Syquest drive to my SE/30 and Index 200 MB external, I
 had trouble booting at all.  Index tech suppport isolated the cable as a
problem, replaced that, but bombs of all varieties continued.  Reformatted
internal hard drive several times, reinstalled System 7, tune-up 1.1.1, etc.
several times.  Reformatted Syquest and H. D. with Micronet utility.  Had
local Mac guru run many diagnostics; had local certified Apple technician
locate and replace bad simms.  Now can use some applications, but still get
many bombs on starting.  ATM doesn't work at all anymore, even when installed,
turned on, etc.   Suitcase II and Type Reunion don't work properly.  And
still lots of bombs. What next?  Who to call?  Help!!

Diane R. Johnson
please respond to
u13272@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Subject: DiskFirstAid, files open, can't repair ?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:24:28 GMT

All of a sudden Disk First Aid won't repair one of my drives. It
claims that there are files open on the drive. As I have booted
from another drive and have opened nothing (at least not intentionally)
I'd like to know how I can find out _what_ files are supposedly open.

I'm normally under 7, but the drive I boot from (before launching
Disk First Aid) has 6.0.7 and I	designate it as the system to boot using 
SystemSwitcher.

I've tried the repair several times, with several re-boots and I'm
stumped.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks

-Sven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rowlands@ra.csc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands)
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 Quicktime/32bit QuickDraw?
Keywords: quickdraw powerbook 100 quicktime init extension
Reply-To: rowlands@csc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands)
Organization: Texas Instruments, SPDC, DSP Technology Branch, Dallas
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:38:04 GMT

In article <alen.716101253@crash>, alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:
  In <alen.716083615@crash> alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:
  
  >A friend of mine (with no net access) has just bought a cheap
  >powerbook 100 and upgraded it to 4Mb RAM.
  >She has the quicktime extension and would like to run it but
  >when the desktop appears a dialog is displayed that says...
  >Quicktime could not load because it requires 32 bit quickdraw...
  >I thought System7 had 32 bit QD internal. Is there a control
  >that needs to be switched?
  >email me and I'll summarize
  
  Summary of responses:
  	All respondents report that 32-bit quickdraw will not run
  on a 68000 (only 68020 and above). So Quicktime is not available on
  the PowerBook 100 (bummer!!).
  
  thanks to all for the info
  
  --alen
  alen@crash.cts.com

There is a extension available which simulates the 68020 instructions
in software on a 68000 using the exception mechanism. Has anyone tried
to get color quickdraw to work on a 68000 mac using this? One problem -
I can't find the init on sumex - does anyone even remember it?

Jon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ahn@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Hyo E. Ahn)
Subject: Puzzy cursor!!! Why?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:01:00 GMT


   Recentlly I encounter this problem of turning the arrow cursor into
a puzzy one while opening an application.  Is it due to a virus?
Thanks in advance.
	
	Hyo Ahn, Los Alamos National Laboratory

	Bitnet:		AHN@LAMPF
	Internet:	AHN@DAC.LAMPF.LANL.GOV
From: khaw@parcplace.com (Mike Khaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neat CDEVs--but how turn them on?
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:13:23 GMT

In <14863@mindlink.bc.ca> Rick_McCormack@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick McCormack) writes:

>Thank you Gunther Blaschek for PopChar 2.3!

I'm using PopChar 2.5.2, and it's great also.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Cecelia A. Dorn)
Subject: DecLA50 print drivers
Reply-To: cad0410@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:20:16 GMT

Someone has requested whether I can find out if there are any available
print drivers to allow a Mac to utilize a DecLA50 printer.

...anybody know?...thanks in advance for any help.

awaiting the flood of responses,
--Cea
From: chavey@jalapeno.cs.wisc.edu (Darrah Chavey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: File Sharing while prohibiting copying and modification
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:59:38 GMT
Organization: Beloit College, Beloit, Wisc.

In article <87663@netnews.upenn.edu> isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler) writes:
>I am running a network of 5 Mac II Si's.
>I would like to improve performance on the server by allowing certain 
>applications like MacDraw II and Word 5.0 to reside on individual hard drives
>of the computers on the network. I don't want these applications to be copied
>an pirated, however.

I would recommend buying Keyserver Lite. Last I heard, the cost was about
$300, and should solve most of your problems. You can write to 
sassafras@dartmouth.edu (or denis.devlin@dartmouth.edu) for more info.
For most people, the cost of KeyServer is more than recovered by the
cost of not needing to buy as many licenses of at least some software
(you only need licenses for the maximum number of copies that you want in
use at one time, instead of one license for every machine).

>So, I was wondering how to go about copy-protecting these items.
>I know that there are copy protection mechanism within the Appleshare
>software but I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing this.

Copy protectin offered by Appleshare is fairly easy to overcome, especially
if you're trying to install the programs on the individual hard disks.

>We are using System 7.0 and AppleShare v2.0.
>
>Thank you,
>Sylvia Isler


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From: tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ms window emulator
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:26:07 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Colouring Book Software

kiwasa@helix.nih.gov (k.h. iwasa) writes:

>Is there such a thing as ms window emulator on the mac?  I saw ads about
>ms dos emulator for the mac. Is it possible to run ms window on top of ms
>dos emulator? I imagine it would be extremely sluggish if it works that 
>way.  Does it work?  How sluggish?

Soft At with windows will be released probably at the end of this year.
It runs Windows 3.1 (Windows is included in the price). The catch is you
need a Quadra to get decent performance out of the product.
T

-- 
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Yes, I carry a grudge. If someone pokes me in the eye, I'll poke both of
their eyes. larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Compression Software
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:29:15 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu writes:

-> On other other hand, you can purchase StuffIt SpaceSaver which 
-> combines both the "automatic" mode of AutoDoubler, with the 
-> manual mode of DiskDoubler, plus simple archiving needs (Stuffing, 
-> UnStuffing, etc.) and more in a single package for only $59.95 
-> (lite - mail order about $35). 

I know you know this, but for the sake of any lurkers:  DiskDoubler handles
simple archiving needs as well.

Which is why I think that Salient/5th Gen should grab the bull by the horns
and either sell AD/DD as a single package, or (even better) combine the two
into one cdev.

--Adam--
 
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From: wdburns@mtu.edu (WILLIAM D. BURNS)
Subject: which printer driver to use? help!
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:45:16 GMT

Hey everyone:

I have a lab of macs...most running sys7.0.1/1.1.1 (a few are Ses running
6.0.5).  The printeres invloved are an NTX, a IIg and a Plus.
All printers are connected to a apple printspooler v2.0.

What printer driver can be run from the spooler?  I heard that the Plus
didn't like the laserwriter driver 7.1.1...is this true?

Right now all macs have laserwriter 1.1.1 installed, but the spooler is
running the 7.0 printer driver.

Ocassionally I get postscript errors on the print jobs...Iknow every
mac is supposed to have the same version of print software installed...
why shouldn't I go to the 7.1.1 driver?  Does it matter if everything
gets spooled anyhow?

thanks in advance....

bill burns

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: howes@xraylith.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Subject: Re: Omega SANE Install-Which Macs?
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:57:56 GMT

> Jim Reeks, (Polterzeitgeist) says 
>There's a Tech Note from Apple that explains the specifics.  You'll also
>find
>that Omega SANE isn't installed exactly the same with System 7.1 either.



What I find is interesting is that that tech note says that Omega Sane is
built into the ROMS of the PB 140, but doesn't load unless the 
optional fpu is installed. I was under the impression that Apple made it
^^^^^^^
nearly impossible to put an fpu in a PB 140.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nasadk@vccsouth19.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re:  My DA's won't work under Multifinder... 
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:11:14 GMT

In article <Bu5y08.GqI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, beyer@mrlaxs.mrl.uiuc.edu (John  Beyer) writes:

[System configuration of 8MB RAM IIci w/ System 6.0.5 not running
desk accessories under Multifinder]

Did you install the file "Backgrounder"(sp?) It's purpose it to
allow you to use the DA's in Multifinder. Without it, you can't.
It gets installed in the System Folder.

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>
From: cf043@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance K. Chun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Later System's won't have TrashCan?
Date: 13 Sep 1992 12:31:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf043@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance K. Chun)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, boyd@apple.com (Scott Boyd) says:

>In article <1992Sep11.130235.6852@mmm.serc.3m.com>,
>pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby) wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine read an article in USA Today (either Tuesday or
>> Wednesday's edition) which apparently claimed that later System release
>> for the Macintosh will no longer sport the Trash Can.  The article said
>> something about how it causes too much confusion....
>> 
>> My friend also inferred from the article that this "trashless Finder"
>> could happen as soon as System 7.1.
>> 
>> Any creedence to this 'report'?  I don't hold USA Today in any sort of
>> esteem as a high-tech-reporting-journal, but he seemed to think it might
>> be fact.
>
>Yes, there is credence to this 'report'.  Having read it, I have to smile
>a little bit at calling it a report.  USA Today, the state-of-the-art in
>journalism :-)  I thought it was so funny that I copied it and stuck it
>up on my wall at work and gave copies to my friends.
>
>What they're talking about is "At Ease", the simplified interface built
>with kids in mind.
>
>The Finder itself will continue to "sport the Trash Can" for some time
>to come.
>
>scott
>boyd@apple.com
>


Oh lord! Hahaha.. I can't stop laughing.... Yet another ridiculous example
of how stupid the media is!
 
Lance
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From: william.zwicky@cray.com (Bill Zwicky)
Subject: Mac in a UNIX world
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Cray Research
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:10:49 CDT

I've got a Mac connected to a TCP/IP network with a number of other Unix
workstations on the same network.  I'm looking for some Mac software that
will enable me to "export" Mac files so that they can be "mounted" by Unix
workstations on the network.  Does "NFS" exist for the Mac platform?  Also,
I'd like to be able to print from a Unix workstation to the LaserWriter
connected to my Mac.  Does an lp daemon exist for the Mac that will
"listen" for print requests from.

I know MachTen and A/UX can do these things, but I don't need all the other
bells and whistles.  Just one bell (NFS), and one whistle (lpd)!

Thanks,
Bill Zwicky

"He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep
 to gain what he cannot lose"   --- Jim Elliot
From: chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai)
Subject: Re: My DA's won't work under Multifinder... 
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:33:32 GMT

mcginnis-john@CS.YALE.EDU (John McGinnis) writes:
>It, in conjuction with the Print Monitor, allows background printing to a
>laserwriter.  Hence the name...

Ah, thanks! (No wonder I didn't know what it does... I'm still running
an Imagewriter 8-)
From: ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Agustin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Win/NT
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:21:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.geeA9zO00WBKM1IXgP
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 05-Sep-92 in Win/NT                       
user Kaz Karl@f1138.n261.z1.f writes:
>   All you Windows Bashers should try to remember that the entire hardware
>package needed to run Windows NT well will still cost a fraction of a
comperable
>Mac...Short an time...
>CYA

Well, according to specifications dircectly from a flyer produced by
Microsoft on the upcoming Windows NT:

    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    The Microsoft Windows NT operating system runs on Intel 80386 and higher
    systems with a recommended configuration of 8 MB of RAM and 100 MB or more
    of disk space, or on similarly conigured RISC based systems.

   I'd say that those are pretty steep hardware requirements which I'd
be more than happy to live with on a 68030-based color Mac (I do fine
with 5 megs of memory and 80 megs of HD).  I figure that the way most
companies advertise the requirements of their products, wanting to have
an extra several of megs of memory and a much bigger hard drive will
soon become needs as the market for NT-specific products grows.  There
is also mention of networking capabilities ("...built-in file-sharing
and print-sharing capabilites...") with absolutely no mention of the
extra hardware one needs to purchase to take advantage of these
features.  The flyer also seems to leave me with the impression that
Windows NT was developed for the high-end of the PC market, not some
dirt-cheap 386/386sx clone with *nothing* inside except a 80-100 meg HD
and a plain vanilla Super-VGA card from "Joe's Bargain Basement
Computers and Fishing Supply".  The question of customer support from
Microsoft must also be raised.
    What will Windows NT cost?  I doubt that it will be as low as what
Windows 3.1 and OS/2 are currently selling for.  With the multitude of
enhancements added as well as multi-platform support, I don't even want
to speculate on the price.  

Robert
ra00@andrew.cmu.edu
From: Scott_Macrae@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Macrae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Disappearing Scrapbook
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:05:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Undoubtedly a FAQ, but . . . I can't locate my Scrapbook file in Get File
boxes. This is especially problematic when trying to place Scrapbook items into
Pagemaker, version 4.0. I would appreciate any advice with this

Scott Macrae
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: comp.sys.mac.powerbook
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:00:23 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

krona@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Kjell Krona) writes:

KK> And I do not see why group profileration would be such a bad 
KK> thing 

see my rant and rave about cross postings over on comp.sys.mac.misc.  "Yeah,
my problem might be due to the fact that I'm running a PowerBook, but it might
also be the application, or it might be due to the fact that I once gave
thought to buying a desktop computer....oh, what the hell, I'll just post my 3
part question to all the groups, just to make sure."

--Adam--
 
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From: sell@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Steven Wayne Sell)
Subject: Floppy Disk Icon in Finder (System 7.0.1)
Keywords: Icon, Disk
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:03:39 GMT

Okay, here is something that has me stumped.  If I use ResEdit to look  
through the System file, there is a really cool color Icon for a floppy  
disk.  It is located the same place that the icons for the trash, folder,  
and such are kept.  However,  the finder still uses the B&W icon for  
floppy disks.  The funny part is, when you closely inspect the floppy disk  
icon (B&W version) that is in the system file, it doesn't match the one  
that the finder uses!  Where does the finder get this icon, and how can i  
make it use the color one?  This has bothered me for some time, so any  
help would be appreciated!  Thank you.


Steve
From: hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: >>savvy extension
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:29:02 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Thanks to everyone who pointed out my error...

Boy do I feel stupid!  I guess I should read things more carefully....

Allan
hise@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cramer@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Cramer)
Subject: Startup chord sound level
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:18:16 GMT

I frequently use my PowerBook in a library -- the keyboard is fairly
quietly, the disk motor is quiet, and I've turned down the sound on
the alert beeps.  But when I start it up (or if I reboot for some
reason) I get the startup chord, which in a quiet library is rather
annoying, or at least that's my perception.  Is there any way to 
turn down the sound on the start chord?  (When I think about it
in advance, I turn it on before I go to the library, put it to
sleep, and wake it up when I get there -- a work around but only
when I remember).

Bill Cramer

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