HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: was1+@pitt.edu (Scott A Wayne)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Looking for fun sex games to play.
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:20:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	Hello again,
		My name is Wayne Scott and I am really me.  In any case, I
am fairly new to newsgroups and I am trying really hard to learn my around
them.  It becomes difficult when people like Graham disencourage someone by
saying that will not write.  I am a bisexual and haven't had much sexual
experience with men.  I have had more experience with women.  I am now
involved in a relationship with another man at the age of 20.  He was a
virgin until we met.  In any case, neither one of us know of anything outside
of the ordinary hand-job, blow job, and rubbing our bodies against each
other. (Pardon the bluntnes)  We are both turned off by any type of anal sex.
If you have any ideas on how to make the ordinary seem extraordinary, please
let me know.  I am very nervous about writing on here and am trying to relax
about it.  Just keep in mind that I am new to newsgroups and new to sex with
men.  Thank you for listening.  I hope to hear from some kind soul soon.

					Sincerely,
						Wayne

-- 
* Wayne A. Scott            !            was1+@pitt.edu              *
* Electrical Engineering    !  "My opinion was paid for by the same  *
* University of Pittsburgh  !   blood that bought every American's   *
* Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  !   opinion - our soldier's blood."      *
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:56:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.224321.4102@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>max@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Max Handelsman: liberal hippie subversive dude.) wrote...
>>In article <PTFCLZK=S@linac.fnal.gov>, glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass) writes:
>>> since moving here from LA... I've also noticed I've been feeling a bit
>>> odd lately (queer? no ..no.. that's not quite right... ), but I have
>>> had an almost irresistable urge to snuggle with just about anything that
>>> moved--male, female, or neuter (hey!  does that make me TRI-sexual?)
>>
>>	Or a TRY-sexual...you'll TRY anything!
>>	<duck>
>>
>>		-Max
>
>There's also BUY-sexual: Buy me something, I'll get sexual. <also ducking>
>
>Ellen
>

Don't forget  Buy Sexual, if they want sex, they have to buy it. <*major ducking*>

Sandy		Who should be doing Ada   (uugh!)
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:08:50 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass) writes:

>goodness... have I de-muffined?

>Eeeek!!!   Well, it does tickle a little bit.

>Actually, it feels rather pleasant.  Well, here's hugs & kisses to
>all, and a "tra-la-lah" for those who are musically inclined.

Hello Enrico, so you *aren't* a muffin then ...

Tra-la-lah to you too!

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: sex education, and what it did for me...
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.213120.23959@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:

>Personal to anyone who hasn't been flirted with lately:
>Flutter, flutter.  Tiny grin.  Looking away shyly - back again -
>away again.

*Purr!* Now how did you know I needed to be flirted with today?

>ro

-- 
Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
From: kmj1@PL118f.cc.lehigh.edu (kate marie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: North East get together. (all invited!) (note ** NOT a convention **)
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:12:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Lehigh University Student Konsultants

In article <3130@cs.rit.edu> kdc5072@cs.rit.edu (Kevin D Colagio) writes:

>Oh, let's see...Right here at RIT there are let's see...Me, Nick, a friend of
>mine, someone else who dropped me a line, that one....I wish that one, but
>wishes don't count I guess.

>Definately at least 4 here.  So that means that as of right now, we have the
>North Eat get together at RIT.  
       ^^^  
accidental misspelling i'm sure...

>Proposed activities:  fondue (chocolate and cheese)
			 back rubs
			 front rubs
			 side rubs
			 ice cream sampling
			 flirts in person
			 what ever else you can come up with.

>ok, let's see...RIT is about 8 hours from DC, 6 hours from the Lehigh Valley, (Hi
>Kate!, if you come...I have some friends you can bring along (about 3...send
>e-mail if interested!)), 4 hours from Niagra falls (at most 4), 5 hours from
>Harrisburg, PA, and 3 or 4 hours from New York, NY.

>Seems like we are kinda central...hmmm.....

>Let me know if we really want to do this!

yes, yes, yes, yes!
all i need is a car, and directions.

off to pack...well, a bit of clothing i suppose...maybe those lacy things
i've been saving...some of those scented oils...a couple of toys...

;) can't wait.


kate

it's the magickal everchanging .sig! buy one today!
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:33:02 GMT

elf@polari.com writes:


>   Anybody else ever have this crossover?  It strikes me as very odd...
>that when I'm with a lover, I tend to spend more time peering at and
>lecherously examining motos (from them).  Both are bi-, but both tend
>to be more attracted to men than to women, and I tend to be pretty
>50/50 on that account.  Anybody?


Yeah, I have a tendancy to do that too.  Sometimes I feel its kind of like
when I am with one sex I have that side of my sexuality "looked after" 
and I want to check out the other side.  I`m pretty 50/50 too.

Iseult.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ro@panix.com (r l reid)
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:05:39 GMT
Organization: Playdoh's Republic

In article <1992Apr15.180008.9028@cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>because I don't shit in the woods means that I have something against
>bears.

So what do you do - hold it in till you get home?
-- 
		r l reid	ro@@panix.com
@WOOF, QUACK AND  MEOW: Composers of Woof present a variety of computer music 
[Apr 26, 8:30 pm, Cunningham Dance Studio 55 Bethune (Westbeth), NYC)]
[Apr 30, 8:30 pm, SIA, (410 W 118 St, top floor, NYC)]
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Women are BLG, too! (was: Outing at the Oscars?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:35:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr8.033528.5827
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <iw.702668544@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
>gere@umunhum.stanford.edu (Susan Gere) writes:
>>- Do women who are victims of incest/sexual abuse shift nn points 
>>  on the Kinsey scale in response?  (my limited knowledge says yes.
>
>My limited knowledge would probably say yes too.  But I have always shied
>away from it, because it sounds like too easy a way to 
>explain (for those people who have a need to) why women are sometimes attracted
>to women instead of men.
>
>Has anyone ever seen studies that suggest that a higher percentage of BL women
>have been sexually abused?

this is one of those things that seems logical (and if it is it's 
pretty female lgb insulting imho) and isn't.  

victims of childhood sexual abuse are very likely to be frigid.  they
are also likely to be promiscuous, attempting to manipulate men.  you
see,victims of abuse (esp. incest) are made powerless in the abuse 
situation.  but, as children, they learn an empowering behavior: how
to control a man.  think of abuse vicitms you may know (if you do, and
you probably do even if you aren't aware of it).  they tend to be daddy's
little girl, he clearly favors her, etc, etc.  

now some of lgb women are of course going to be abuse vicitms.  abusers
*don't* say "gee, is this kid queer or straight?" before abusing.  like
they could tell!  however, i would bet that the percentage of lgb women
who are abuse/moletation victims is very comparable to that of het
women.  

although all those 'phobe flamers would like us all to believe otherwise.  
see, then, being lgb is a reaction against *men* (this time, a childhood 
abuser) which of course means the *cure* is a good man.  sigh.  

makes me wanna puke. 
peg
From: kdc5072@cs.rit.edu (Kevin D Colagio)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: how to trim down the number of new soc.motss posts.
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:35:41 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY

In article <3047@cs.rit.edu> kdc5072@cs.rit.edu (Kevin D Colagio) writes:
  For those who like to read soc.motss, but not go through 100s of posts in a
  sitting, here is what I have done....
  
  edit your KILL file and put this line in:
       /Re: /:j
  
  if there is a thread that you want to follow, put this line in your KILL
  file (yes, they can do more than kill!)
       /thread subject or part of it/:m
  
  if there is a new tread started that you want to follow, just add a line
  like above to your KILL file...
  
  (if you want an explaination of what these do, let me know....)


*****OOPS, I forgot something...here is the correction *****

the one line should say (you'll know which line...)

/thread subject or part of it/r:m

                              ^--the (r) is new...

this tells the news reader to check all articles that have been read, if
you added this line to your kill file, please correct it as I don't think
it will work otherwise on bringing up articles you want to read.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-  Kevin Colagio...student at large -  I am looking   - In Gods we trust,      =
=               aka                 =  for something  - All others pay cash.   -
-         KDC5072@cs.rit.edu        -   to put here.  -      -Vladimir Taltos  =
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: hardie@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ted Hardie)
Subject: Re: Sexual Abuse (was Re: Women are BLG, too!)
Summary: Sexual abuse among all
Keywords: sexual abuse
Organization: Little, if any.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20:04:43 GMT

In article <31593@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.210657.2253@wam.umd.edu> sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell) writes:
>+
>+p.s. You didn't mention men who have been sexually abused.  I'm curious as to
>+why.
>
>'cause men don't get abused. And if they dd,o the abused becomes homosexual
>too, since the the perpatrator is a male.
>My suspicsion is that more boys are abused, un-reported, and will
>remain so as long as there is such a negative view towards
>homosexual activities. Much has been written about the woman/girl's
>view of being sexually abused, the negative self-image, etc. But I
>don't think the popular press has gotten around to abused men/boy's
>except to maintain that idea that 'we can't trust gays to be scout
>leaders, 'cause look at these cases of sexual abuse'.
>This is clearly an anecdotal observation.

>John Clark
>jclark@ucsd.edu


Both men and women sexually abuse and are sexually abused.  There is
an enormous weight of evidence to indicate that this behavior should
not be considered in the same vein as other kinds of sexual behavior,
just as rape is not.  It is, of course, technically heterosexual or
homosexual in description, but that does not make it straight sex or
gay sex; it is sexual abuse, a different category entirely.

I suspect all sexual abuse of being heavily under-reported; of the
(unfortunately) many people I know who were victims of childhood
abuse, only one was aware of it continuously through to adulthood.  Most
"rediscovered" it as adults.  Because of our societal assumptions
about how sex works, it may well be that sex involving male abusers is
reported more than sex involving female abusers; it may also be that
those involving same-sex abuse are felt to be more shameful and reported
even less.

No smileys.  None at all.
				Ted
From: twpierce@amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the newsgroup (was: muffining)
Date: 27 Mar 92 15:41:53 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In article <1992Mar26.214907.17879@cs.tcd.ie>, cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>[Scott Moir:]
>>[Flirting] kinda helps to keep the place friendlier. I for one HATE
>>reading a group that is 75% flame and 25% discussion.

This is indeed a big plus.

> I think most people hate reading a group which has such a low
> signal : noise ratio. But, you will find that one person's signal is
> another person's noise. I wouldn't be surprised if what you called
> flames were what I might call heated debate.

Excellent point, and one that should be remembered.

>>We have just hit a point where people are discovering that the
>>newsgroup exists, and so we are seeing alot of newbies.

I, for one, will never cease to be amazed at the volume of
biskiteers on the group.  When soc.bi was in the discussion
stages, I expressed a lot of doubt that we would see a lot of bi
folks who hadn't shown up on soc.motss for one reason or another. 
I am ecstatic to have been proven wrong!

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Well, there's homosexuality in all animals
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  but one, and that's the pig. If it weren't
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  for homosexuals, we'd all have to live like
                                  pigs."  - overheard at Sydney Mardi Gras
From: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:18:42 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

In <brink@vadier.gr.osf.org> emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:
>cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>>I don't know if it is internalised homophobia, brainwashing or what,
>>but I do find the thinking[%] about sex with a motss to be less
>>appealing than thinking[%] about sex with a motos. I suspect that one
>>reason for this is [...]
>
>Well good grief.  Maybe you're just not as much interested in men as
>women?  I don't see why you have to find reasons for it.  I certainly
>don't spend much time worrying about not finding women attractive.
>(Any more.)  Perhaps you could take a course of Kinsey injections?

I didn't say that I *worry* about it. Rather, I *think* about it. You
know, intellectual stimulation and curiosity...

But in the past I have worried about it a bit. You know, things like
"Am I bisexual _enough_ to be bisexual?"


<>I'd rather tempt people out of the closet than kick it down around
<>their wounded spirits.
<>--- STella (STella@xanadu.com)

Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                            ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.      \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539  FAX: +353-1-772204  email: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie  \/
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:13:59 GMT
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr7.185010.9792@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>I didn't announce my demuffining,(because I felt embarrassed that it
>had taken me so long to learn how to post.  I wanted to post the first
>day I found this group!) but now here you are flirting with me anyway.
>Yeah!!!!!!!!    (now, how to return the favor....)
>
>In a class yesterday we were warned about the dangers of "excessive
>collaboration", and I just love dangerous things...
>Would you two *fine* ladies be interested in collaborating excessively
>with me...???
>
>Sandy				Proud, and Queer of it

heh heh heh...  collaboration... heh heh heh... well, *i'm* 
interested, but i don't speak for tanaqui...  ;)  

yet *another* reason to visit seattle!  this is getting to
be *overwhelming*!  when we decide to have our first bi.con,
(notice that i say *when* and not *if* (-:) i hope all the 
seattle folk put out a good proposal!

peg, thinkng of all the *interesting* people she would like
to see in seattle...
;)
From: IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Lesbians, Bisexuals and Cats (Re: pet's preference?
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:24:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92097.002431IO81409
 <1992Mar27.223553.10356@husc3.harvard.edu>
 <1992Mar30.091741.38889@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <32011@darkstar.ucsc.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System

i am an unrepentant cat lesbian, proud housemate to Marion, Puggle,
Silver, Littlest, and Melissa.  dogs are neat, but they make me
nervous.  i am finding this thread neat, as i had always thought
that dog lesbians were far more numerous than cat lesbians...

                                    -ailsa
From: was1+@pitt.edu (Scott A Wayne)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Looking for fun sex games to play.
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:25:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	Hello,
		I am a 19 year old bisexual male.  I am in a relationship
with another male.  I have a question for those of you who are experienced
in the area of sex and sex games.  What are some fun, new and exciting
ways to have sex with another man?  If you have any ideas, feel free to
E-Mail me personally or post a response in this newsgroup.  Thanks.

					- Wayne

-- 
* Wayne A. Scott            !            was1+@pitt.edu              *
* Electrical Engineering    !  "My opinion was paid for by the same  *
* University of Pittsburgh  !   blood that bought every American's   *
* Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  !   opinion - our soldier's blood."      *
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: too perverse? (was Re: I am Muffin! I am INVINCIBLE!)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:58:59 GMT
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

dill@world.std.com (David Kaufman) demuffins in breathless anticipation
of flirtation package...

and sara says:  
>Bad luck, you just get boring old Sara saying hello - hello!  And
>welcome ...  Oh all *right* then <flutter flutter> <flirt flirt> howzat?
>    >{8-)
>Apologies, I've been working all weekend (yech) and I'm shattered so I
>don't really have the energy for a really good flirt just now ...

too shattered to flirt?  ha!  i don't buy it for a minute.  perhaps
to flirt *well* (heh heh heh- teach you to flirt surly on the net!)

;)

welcome <wink> to our playpen, soc.bi....  
*e-hugs*

sara, note my new .sig, courtesy of michelle elliot:

peg: she takes a hurting but keeps on flirting
tee hee hee
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: And Now You Aren't One was A Question- "Muffin"? "De-muffining"?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:21:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.015847.25050@thelema.uucp> STella@thelema.uucp (STella) writes:

>(I still think bi-scuit would be preferable, but so it goes.)

Bi-scuit would be a marvelous "muffin," but it interferes with the
eminently logical extension to the soc.motss "motssketeer":
"bisketeer," the noun I use in referring to soc.bi readers in the
third person.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
From: kmj1@PL118f.cc.lehigh.edu (kate marie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: too perverse? (was Re: I am Muffin! I am INVINCIBLE!)
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:56:14 GMT
	<1992Apr3.210615.25560@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<1992Apr4.071529.25578@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Lehigh University Student Konsultants

In article <1992Apr4.071529.25578@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:

>(Does anyone out there have a fetish or even a twinge for tall people with 
>long (if thinning) curly *brown* hair?...)

>Albert "Don't Dream It Be It" Lunde

long hair? i loooove long hair...my SO's hair (hi lewis!) is halfway down 
his back by now...and one of by best friends (unfortunately straight) has
RED hair to her waist. mmmm...

wow, i finally got the courage to demuffin. hugs/kisses/licks, anyone?


kate

.sig file in preparation
From: max@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Max Handelsman: liberal hippie subversive dude.)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:05:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Apr13.170502.899
Organization: The Loonie Bin

In article <1992Apr12.225105.23690@vpnet.chi.il.us>, orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:
>    Springtime in Chicago.  You know, the temperature goes down to freezing,
> the spring collection of odd mailings arrive ('How did *I* get on the mailing
> list for International Male?')...

	Don't look a gift horse in the mouth...especially if he's a STUD!
	There *are* advantages to working in the Mail Room...
	*smirk*

	Graham, I'll try to post to WORDS-L, but probably from 
MHANDELS@DREW.DREW.EDU.

	Hey, how many of us are there in the Northeast?  There are a lot of 
Northwesterners, and a lot of people in the Windy City on the list, and 
quite a few from across the pond, but the closest address I could identify 
was Sharon's in Wash. DC!  Anyone for a NE get-together?

	And another congrats, Sharon, and a *HUG*, *smooch*, & etc. ;) on 
getting "Bi" into the name of your student alliance!

	Oh, and I might be out my Seattle, but probably not until November 
or December.

	Food's here!
	Bi for now (and for good!),

		-Max
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Apr6.180213.17284@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
+
+All of this means that in a true 50-50 bisexual (assuming one 
+exists) it would make sense for your eye to be drawn more to women
+than to men.  If you were already 40-60 tilted towards women, these

Well, the thought of standard business suite Blue just leaves me
a bit cold, even with those little penstrips and a littly doily
hanging out of the breast pocket.

-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: sunthej@alleg.edu (Jake)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Stereotypes and bisexuality (wasRe: Coming out to teachers...)
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:55:55 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <1992Apr8.142940.18817@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>  
alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (amy young) writes:

>[lots of coolness deleted]
>
> The stereotypes are rediculous.  How many times do I hear that being
> bisexual means you MUST have a partner of each sex at the same time at
> all times?  I don't understand this.  Where did this come from?  
> 
> amy
> -- 
>  
************************************************************************** 
> "Quick to judge, quick to anger.... slow to understand. 
> 	       	Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand."
>               				--Neil Peart
>  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

HI!

It comes from where most problems come from- other people believing that  
their way is, if not the only "true way", certainly _The_Best_ way.  I've  
been happy to see a conspicous lack of this type of idiocy on soc.bi, but  
as for the world in general, I can make no such happy prognosis.

							Jake

There ain't no wrong, there ain't no right... only pleasure and pain...JA