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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:38:01 EST
From:         Steven I Gordon <sgordon@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Problem with NDIS drivers

I have just recently started using the NDIS drivers with my WD8003 card so
that we can try out POPMAIL and other software.  I finally have gotten
everything to load cleanly.  However, consistently, after a time, the VINES
disk services freeze up giving the message Servicename VINES File service
not available.  This usually indicates that VINES has gotten a lot of
bad packets and cut the machine off.  Anyone else experience this problem?
Is it a bug in the WD (SMC) NDIS drivers or at the Banyan end?

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Steve Gordon
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From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: password encyrption?
              "Erica=May%EPO%USACERL%AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU"
              at Dec 29, 92 1:27 pm

>
> I think this might be a dumb question, but here goes anyway ...
>
No question is dumb if you don't know the answer!!

> We have several notebook computers that we use to keep in touch with the the
>  office
> when travelling, as well as being used at home "after hours".  A question has
>  been
> raised about logging into Banyan over a phone line. Is the password encrypted
>  when
> it travels from the notebook via modem to the server?  In other words, if the
>  phone
> line is "tapped" (unlikely event to begin with), is the password easily
>  detectable?
>
> Erica May

Regardless of the connection media you are using ( modem, 10baseT, ... ) any
request to a VINES service is the same since the transport layer is
transparent to the upper (sesion, application ) layers. Therefore, yes, the
password is encrypted when it is sent to Vanguard. I will say though that
the encryption alogorithm sucks at best! :-)

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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:35:51 EST
From:         Jon Freivald <jaflrn!jaf@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject: Re: 250Mb tapes in Archive 150?

"Andrews, Edward A." <AndrewsE%PCMAIL.INRE.ASU.EDU@vm1.cc.uakron.edu> writes:

> I seem to remember a discussion a few months back about using the DC-6250
> tape cartridges in an Archive 150Mb tape drive.  Is this possible?  (I.E.,
> can we really get 250Mb onto a DC-6250 even though we are using the same old
> 150 Mb drive unit?

Works like a champ here...

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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:42:50 EST
From:         Jon Freivald <jaflrn!jaf@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject: re: Mailbox file access

Thomas=Dyckes%IS%CHI%ALOHA.CHI.OHIO-STATE.EDU@vm1.cc.uakron.edu writes:

> From:           Patrick=Smoker%Admin%Ag%ADMIN.AGAD.PURDUE.EDU@VM1.CC.UAKRON.E
> Subject:        Mailbox file access
>
> >Does anyone know if it is possible to access the mailbox files of a
> >VINES user and gather them into a single ascii file?  We need to
> >collect a users mail and then transmit it overseas periodically.
> >Info on any public domain, or commercial products would be appreciated.
>
> You can redirect the lpt1 port to a file and then from within
> Banyan mail print the entire folder. I understand that PRN2FILE.COM
> from Ziff Communications (PC Magazine) will work for this. I believe
> it is shareware. Ziff maintains a Compuserve forum (GO ZIFFNET,
> I think?) with libraries that will allow you to download the utility.
> I'm sure that there are other utilities around as well.

There's a problem with this -- binary attachments...

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                   Jon Freivald ( jaf%jaflrn@uunet.UU.NET )
         Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:15:58 CST
From:         Rick=L.=Perales%2nd=Fl%FPCM@FPCM.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU
Subject:      re: HDLC Server-Server

Joe,
Yes i am on the adminlist (.@msw@servers and .@msb@servers) on both servers.
And no there are no restrictions on either server.

Although, on the remote server (msw) i am listed as a user on a group on the
local server (msb). And I can not log in from the remote server either (i
assume because it can not verify me). Is there a problem with that?

Nieve Vines user rick.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:45:40 +0100
From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Mailbox file access

Sorry for my ignorance but can't you forward the mail ?? If so try the
setmail M_Mail@group@Server [new_mail_address]
in the users profile.

Hendrik.

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From: arc2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (AMY CHARLES)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gutnberg
Subject: etext, publishing, and equality of access
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:40:26 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Open letter to Prof Hart:

I'm new to this BBS and read your postings with interest.  I've worked in
publishing and retail books for several years and have watched, with some
curiosity and foreboding, the advent of mass e-publishing.  My main concern
with it has to do witthequal access to text.
    Etext assumes the reader has a computer, or access to a computer, which
    can handle CD-ROM or has a modem.That's a large assumption; many people
    who read don't have computers.  But the marketing assumptions of the
    industry say that people likely to read certain kinds of books are also
    likely to have computers.  Because production costs on disk are so much
    lower than on paper (distribution too), it's likely publishers will stop
    publishing certain kinds of books on paper, figuring core markets have and
    prefer computers anyway.
    The problem is that, in spite of the proliferation of marketers, readers
    are an odd lot.  They refuse to line up neatly in demo and psychographic
    categories.  You will not hear many marketers admit this publicly, but
    their jobs depend on the existence of neat categories.
    I am very much afraid that poor people who read unduly upmarket books will
    be shut out.  Having neither computers nor paper copies available, they
    will be forced out of readship; they will lose access to information
    previously available ttheoorest literate.  I think this would be tragic.
    It would reinforce ignorance and leave our society far more classbound
    than it is.  Many of our strongest, brightest people are self-educated;
    etext is not democratic enough to allow this.
    Comments?

    Amy Charles
    Allentown PA

    
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 07:01:05 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      New World Factbook

world192.zip and .txt are being posted to mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
cd etext/etext93

Contains the elusive Appendix E (Standard and non-standard names
of the various countries included in the almanac.


Happy New Year!

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:45:53 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Anne of the Island

A test version of Anne of the Island (third in the Green Gables series)
is available in etext93 for anonymous ftp.

get iland10.xxx

Surfing the Internet by Jean Armour Polly should be there by Friday.

Happy New Year!

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:57:41 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      One more for hardcore users

A test version of Surfing the Internet, version 2.0.2 is ready for testing
in etext93, along with test versions of Pi, World Factbook (will update),
and Anne of the Island, already updated once.

Happy New Year!

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:00:26 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      A Piece of Pi

There is a test file of approximately 1.2 million digits of Pi in the
file pimil10.xxx in the etext93 directory.  Please advise if you have
methods of checking these files.

Official release date is January, 1993.

We have approximately 400,000,000 digits so far, out of the billion.

There is a possibility of forming a small discussion on Pi and those
various theories about compression of Pi and about possible patterns
(I have currently disproven the ones I had regarding 8,000,000 chars
I have currently under study.)

Please let us know if you can provide files of root2, root3, e, etc.

Happy Holidays!

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:51:50 CST
From:         "Patricia M. Andersen" <pandersn@silver.sdsmt.edu>
Subject:      Re: Electronic Item & SuDocs List

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I don't know what GPO has done or is going to do, but I got tired of trying
to keep up with all of this information, so I converted our list into
WordPerfect format.  The list looks exactly like the one we get from GPO,
except I have added notes, comments, etc.  Things are marked for Reference,
barcoding, cataloging, and so on.  We are only selecting about 40 - 45% of
what is available, but if anyone would like a copy, email me and I'll see
what I can do.  I haven't tried to send anything in WP format, but I could
make an ASCII copy and email it to anyone who is interested.

Patty



Patty Andersen
Head/Public Information Services
Devereaux Library, SDSM&T
pandersn@silver.sdsmt.edu
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 12:04:14 CST
From:         Lucia Snowhill <lb10gove%UCSBUXA.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Agency Liaison Program -- GODORT

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS! The Dec. l992 issue of Documents to the People listed
agency liaisons on pages 173-174 -- but there are lots of agencies out there
waiting to be "adopted."  Please let me know if you are interested.  I have
just taken over as chair from Linda Kopecky.

Current Agency Liaisons:  Please let me know if you wish to continue, any
progress, updates, etc.

Thanks.  More in the New Year.

Rosemary Meszaros
Gov. Pubs. Dept.
University of California
Santa Barbara, CA  93l06-90l0
(805) 893-4l09 (telephone)
(805) 893-4676 (fax)
LB10gove@ucsbuxa.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:27:34 CST
From:         Margaret Scott <scott@bradley.bradley.edu>
Subject: OFFER: Duplicate document

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We received a duplicate copy of the following document from list
684-P.  It is C3.215/4:C40-92-8  Current Construction Reports, Value
of New Construction Put in Place.  It is available to the first person
to offer
Peggy Scott
Bradley University Library
(309) 677-2836 or fax 677-2827
scott @bradley, bradley edu.
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:10:54 CST
From:         Joe Ryan <JORYAN@SUVM.acs.syr.edu>
Subject:      Locator Study Availability

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Nothing chagrin's authors more than to see the publication of their work
delayed and delayed and ... We are sorry that interested readers have had
difficulty in obtaining a copy of _Identifying and Describing Federal
Information Inventory/Locator Systems_ by Charles R. McClure, William E.
Moen and myself.  The National Audio Visual Center continues to tell us
four weeks (as they have since the end of September).  In lieu of that
you may want to take a look at v. 2 #4 pp. 6-36 of _Electronic Networking:
Research, Applications, and policy_. This issue, due out January 15th
1993, will have a 30 pps. summary of the report.

If your library doesn't subscribe to _Electronic Networking_ you may want
to contact the publisher: Meckler Publishing, meckler@jvnc.net (203) 226-
6967,  11 Ferry Lane West, Westport, CT 06880.

Once again, sorry for the inconvenience.

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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 12:01:15 CST
From:         Margaret Scott <scott@bradley.bradley.edu>
Subject: OFFER: Duplicate Documents

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We have an extra copy of the following document from list 696-P.
C3.223/3:90-CH-1-3  Census of Housing, General Housing Characteristics,
Alaska.  I will send to the first person to request.
Peggy Scott
Bradley University
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:32:53 CST
From:         REG6 LIBRARY 214-655-6424 <R6.LIBRARY@epamail.epa.gov>
Subject:      EPA LIBRARIES & OCLC

----------------------------Original message----------------------------



          Here is an excerpt of the official announcement:

          Date: 15-Dec-1992 9:28am EST

               "Effective January 4, 1992, IMSD (Headquarters) will no
          longer fund access to OCLC for Cataloging and Interlibrary Loans.
          We recognize that OCLC is a valuable service, but due to severe
          budget cuts, we are no longer able to provide this support."
               "...Libraries wishing to fund individual access to OCLC may
          do so..."
               "Effective January 4, 1993, the Headquarters Library hours
          will be reduced to 10:00am to 4:00pm."

                            *************************

               This means that each region must fund the OCLC access and in
          the "middle" of a fiscal year with no advance planning for these
          funds and the paperwork involved.....well...   Don't hold your
          breath!
               I have updated my NAD (EMA) to let people know to call, fax,
          or use an ALA form until further notice.  Effective immediately,
          we are not loaning any materials via OCLC but will provide
          photocopies for requests til Dec. 31, 1992 (our last day of
          access).
               To those of you who have loaned us items, we will be
          returning them with a note that we are unable to update OCLC and
          please complete the transaction (Thank heavens for the new PRISM
          features!!).


          Phyl Barrus              INTERNET:  R6.LIBRARY@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV
          LABAT-ANDERSON contract Librarian
          EPA Region 6 Library 6M-ASC
          Dallas, TX 75202-2733
          214 655-6424
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 11:59:36 CST
From:         Bernan <bernan%CLASS.ORG@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Bernan announcement for GOVDOC-L
Comments: cc: bernan@class.org

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

    Bernan recently introduced BERNAN DECK Services Shelf List.
These diskettes contain information fromdepository shipping
lists in DBASE format.  The Shelf List data is updated and
distributed to libraries as frequently as two times per week,
and can be used for document check-in, creation of cards, labels
and special reports.  And a depository library may select items
so that their disks reflect what they receive.
    We welcome any commments or suggestions from government
document librarians and professionals.  What should such a service
provide?  How would it be most useful to you?  Anyone wishing to
review Shelf List for GOVDOC-L or for their own personal use
may request a free sample disk from Bernan.

-----------------
Don Hagen
bernan@class.org                         4611-F Assembly Drive
TEL (800) 274-4447                       Lanham, MD  20706-3111
FAX (301) 459-0056
From: CN.WDR@forsythe.stanford.edu (W. David Rozkuszka)
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Subject: address
Date: 21 Dec 1992 10:28:11 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Can someone provide Al Gore's transition address so that Stanford's
director can copy him in (as an outgoing Joint Committee on Printing
member) on a letter concerning the GPO proposed cuts?  Thanks!
                    David Rozkuszka
                    Jonsson Library of Gov't Documents
                    Stanford University Libraries
                    Stanford, CA  94305-6004
                    email: davidr@forsythe.stanford.edu
                    phone: 415-725-1028
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:19:56 CST
From:         Grace.York@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject:      Documents/Reference Program

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
     Those of you who are considering a merger of reference and documents
service desks might want to test if before you actually move by having
reference staff work in documents a few hours per week.  We tried a
pilot 2-1/2 years ago, and it was one of several factors for cancelling
the merger.

      Grace York, Univ. of Michigan (grace.york@um.cc.umich.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:51:10 CST
From:         Susan Anderson <APDU%PUCC@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Interesting SEC Information

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Because Jamie Love has in the past supplied us with so much information
on the Securities and Exchange Commission's EDGAR System, I thought you might
be interested in this tidbit that I picked up today.

The EDGAR (Electronic Data Gathering, Analysis, and Retrieval) system is
intended to automate the filing, analysis, and dissemination of information
submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Some people are not
comfortable with the system being available only through commercial
vendors, after its creation with taxpayer money.

According to a new
General Accounting Office report titled "Securities
and Exchange Commission: Effective Development of the EDGAR System
Requires Top Management Attention", the original software budget was $51.5
million.  The project is now three years behind schedule and $20 million
over budget.  "The problem began when SEC accepted incomplete requirements
documents from the contractor, who SEC asked to define user requirements and
provide software to meet them.  As development proceeded, SEC staff continually
added or changed requirements. SEC top management did not intervene to deal
with this growth, and the EDGAR steering committee never met after the
contract was awarded."

The report is available from the General Accounting Office, (202) 275-6241,
first copy free.  Report number is GAO/IMTEC-92-85

Susan Anderson
Association of Public Data Users       BITNET: APDU@PUCC
87 Prospect Avenue
Princeton, NJ 08544   PHONE: (609) 258-6025  FAX: (609) 258-3943