From: trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble)
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:13:42 GMT

cbusch@ub.d.umn.edu (Chris) writes:

>    The mac mouse appears not to be accelerated.  The mouse pointer
>didnt move as nicely as microsoft mice.  (Not to mention the mouse has
>only one button.

 The one button thing is a good point. However, it is too often the case
 that on these systems with 3 buttons, the programmers make confusing
 button combinations . [Wasn't that what the mouse was suppossed to
 replace in the first place?]

>    If the mac is suppose to be truly a multitasking system, then why do
>you have to load multifinder on top of the mac os?

 Well, I just want to know if you're comparing it to Windows here. If so,
 I'm afraid you should take a second look at Windows. Windows is a GUI
 (graphical user interface) that runs on top of DOS. It does not have
 protected memory or any of the other benefits that most OSes have 
 (the Mac doesn't either), like SunOS or OS/2.

>    If macs are catching on so much then why has windows os sold more
>copies than all the macs sold?

 I just want to point out that Windows, although it may be an OS of
 sorts (virtual memory is the only thing that warrants this claim), is
 not a good OS at all. There is no memory protection! It's totally
 ridiculous that one crash actually brings down the system. This
 is my main gripe about the MacOS as well - so don't think I'm just
 picking on Windows.

>    Why is it, that macs are only compared to pc's that are base models,
>despite the fact that very inexpensive add-ons exist for the pc.

 Wait, and they don't for the Macintosh? If you're taking about
 Sound Blaster - sorry, but most people have more serious things to do 
 with their Macs than play "Wing Commander II" (BTW - don't forget that
 DOS machines have the biggest game market out there. Don't think people
 are just buying them for BUSINESS....). Are you talking about Ether cards?
 $150. SCSI cards .. oh, that's right - that's built into the Macintosh :)
 Um... mouse cards? oh -- that's also built into the Mac. Video cards? Well,
 unless you need more than 16-bit graphics (IIvx), which 95% of people
 DON'T anyway, you won't need one of those for the Mac, either.

>    Why hasnt motorola keep up to pace with intel with product design?

 Good point. Motorola had a hard time producing the 040 at first, so there
 weren't a whole lot off of the assembly line right away. As far as
 cutting the data busses in half, like Intel does for the 486sx, 386sx, etc,
 why does make Intel more advanced with product design. Motoroller is working
 on the PowerChip as much as Intel is working on the P5, I'm sure.

>    If the mac was so successful, why are so many mac software companies
>porting over their apps to windows?

 Like one other person has already said, to have a cross-platform base.
 I could say the same thing : why have all of the MS-DOS vendors (Lotus,
 WordPerfect) moved to the Macintosh, NeXT, Suns, SGIs, etc? I guess
 it's because the DOS machines are goin' nowhere :)

>    If macs are so easy to use, then why is it that in our computers
>labs that macs are generally unused.  (This is very true.)

 Heh. Probably because the operators are too short-sighted to figure
 out how to link them together - so people can ACTUALLY DO THEIR WORK
 BETWEEN THE TWO (yes, it can be done!). So people who have always had
 their work on the PCs stay there because there isn't an effort to try
 to even out the usage in the lab (by buying WordPerfect/Mac, Lotus123/Mac)

>Apparently, the only decent macs are big macs and whoppers are better
>anywaz.    
 
 Heh. I think you had some kind of strange serial collision with that 
 IBM-style keyboard. Your "ys" at the end of "anyways" came out as a "z".
 Hm. Look into that.

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