HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jah14@po.cwru.edu (Jonathan A. Horvath)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern
Subject: Re: 4 Noble Truths
Date: 4 Jan 1993 13:01:38 -0800
Organization: ----
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gap.caltech.edu


Just realized my sig file contains old info.....i don't have a computer
at the new location below but welcome regular mail and/or phone calls
i'll try to post stuff through other people but until there is some freenet
system there I don't know what to do.....not to good with these computers :-)

the Thompson hall address has the same city and zip code as Miami U.


take care

pecae, love, enjoy, all the best


Jon




-- 
neither buddhist nor non-buddhist     |  Jonathan A. Horvath [jah14@po.cwru.edu
neither tao nor non-tao               |  Miami University, Religion Dept.
duality is something only in one      |  Old Manse, Oxford, OH 45056    -OR-
unity is nothing only in none         |  223 Thompson Hall (513) 529 - 1131
From: prh2s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Patrick Ray Harrison)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern
Subject: Re: Pleasure from travelling, an example of its baselessness
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:35:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1993Jan12.210548.7960
Organization: University of Virginia

abulsari@aton.abo.fi (Abhay Bulsari VT) writes:

> People go to places where there is hardly any sight seeing to be done,
> yet feel great about their trip.  The pleasure only results from
> cheating your mind.

I would agree that if the world were entirely illusory, then seeking
to gain a richer experience of it--whether by travelling, sightseeing,
or observing the lives of people in other cultures--would be a form of
"cheating" one's mind.  On the other hand, one may hold (e.g., per Advaita
Vedanta) that everything is a manifestation of the One, like a collection
of gold jewelry, each piece unique in form, but materially like every
other piece.  From this point of view, one may gain pleasure from travel
in finding that the One has manifested itself in an extraordinary variety
of forms:  peoples, languages, cultures, lands, forests, mountains, and
so on.  How marvellous--and to me, at least, how remote from anything 
like "cheating" the mind--is the contemplation of such variety, and yet
such essential oneness!

Travel, like eating (the pleasure of which Abhay also questions), or
like any activity, may be superficial (only focusing on variety, and
hence only engaged in distractions that "cheat" the mind), or it may
be profound (moving to perceive the essential unity that has manifested
itself diversely, and hence enlightening the mind).  Superficial activity
is bound by maya and cannot escape; profound activity plays hide-and-seek
with maya, catches it, and then finds the unity it hid.

Patrick
(prh2s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu)
From: pjm@isis.cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern
Subject: Re: revelations or lack thereof...
Date: 9 Jan 1993 16:09:39 -0800
Organization: ----
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gap.caltech.edu

In article <1iniu2INNoiq@gap.caltech.edu> abulsari@aton.abo.fi (Abhay Bulsari VT) writes:
>To soc.religion.eastern :
>
>In article <1ihtg7INNfqj@gap.caltech.edu> Sridhar writes:
>>
>>the Exalted One. His status changed externally in his own lifetime.
>>He himself spoke about a Tathagatha, a fully Enlightened being arising
>>in the world. A "Buddha" is a special category of being - when he
>
>I have tried to ask this earlier as well, but I still don't
>have an answer. What is full enlightenment ? I feel that
>enlightenment is a matter of degrees and types. I can't 
>understand what the absolute enlightenment is.
>
>Abhay



i'm at work so i have no references handy. but i'd be happy to refer
you to _The Two Truths_ by Guy Newland (Snow Lion Pubs).
an interesting point in Gelug philosophy is that
only Buddha Superiors are able to directly cognize the Two Truths
simultaneously. so, really, only a Buddha can honestly say he
sees the unity of samsara and nirvana. for normal people,
the Two Truths are a dichotomy, they cannot be experienced
at the same time. i need to work now, but i think this will
point you in the right direction.

-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: smd@uunet.ca (Sean Doran)
Subject: Re: Bloody Media
Keywords: aaarrgghhh!!!!
Organization: UUNET Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:41:01 GMT
Distribution: soc.bi

bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:

>1) On the headlines they said 'Rudolf Nureyev is dead'. Not 'has died at
>the age of...' or 'has died of....' which is what they usually say. 
>That  (spot the linguist) 

Pass the paintbrush.  Can I stripe you, too?  ;)

Some interesting biased language crept into the radio and TV news
here, too, and it was very disappointing, although not terribly
surprising, unfortunately.

On the bright side, at least one TV news report was full of glowing
admiration and praise through most of it, and featured Karen Kain and
other people associated with the National Ballet of Canada saying some
very nice things about Nureyev.  They also played an archive clip of
him in fine spirits explaining that his country is dance and that his
nationality is ballet.

However, they did dwell on the cause of death a bit more than they did
during the obit. segment for Dizzy Gillespie.  They did, however,
describe the latter's cause of death as pancreatic cancer.

>Why is it that if you die of drug/alcohol abuse (Parker, Dylan Thomas,
>Jim Morrison etc) You become romanticised and a 'tortured artist',
>yet if you die of more prosaic means (AIDS) you are labelled as some
>kind of pervert.....

Well, we can all try to change this, no?

	Sean.
Newsgroups: soc.bi,alt.polyamory
From: gtoal@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Set the WayBack Machine (Coming Out)
Organization: The IBM PC User Group On-line services
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:19:46 GMT

In article <16B5213135.SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger) writes:
>Anastasia is currently insisting over my shoulder that I add that I
>simply look like someone people would rather not mess with.  I suppose
>with a B7 beard, longish braided hair, the leather boots & jacket, I'm
>starting to look a lot like a biker.  *laugh*  So much for the classic
>stereotype of what a bisexual male looks like.  }:]

Duh wot?  I thought that *was* the archetypal bisexual male.  (And female for
that matter, modulo the beard) :-)

G
From: rwab1@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ralph Becket)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: a silly question
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:44:26 GMT
Reply-To: Ralph.Becket@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK

In article <1440300002@gn.apc.org> exchangez@gn.apc.org (Zina Kaye) writes:
>
>>What does someome turn into when they aren't a muffin any more?
>
>A Current Bun.... }8-% Sorry, can't resist half-baked puns.
>
>Zina Banina

I bun looking at this for hours and there's muffin funny about it. At least
I donut get it.

Apologies :),
		Ralph
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:07:43 GMT

In article <1inbg2INN4ou@cuda.add.itg.ti.com>
 winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.132816.10172@netcom.com>,
 boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser) writes:
>cool.  I'll see *you* on the next trip for sure, buddy.
>If there *is* a next trip.  (probly)
>So, start planning how to entertain a jaded Silicon Gultch
>visitor.  flirt flirt flirt
>
>*** its nice to be appreciated though.  have roy give you
>*** a hug for me, Ill reimburse him. <winks at roy before
>*** he can call me a flirt again>
>You're committed, Roy.  And be sure to have a pic of   .....jeff
>for me to oggle at, okay?  Please?  Pretty Please?
>(hint to .....jeff:  insure that Roy has one to show?  :-) )

Okay . . . I am getting jealouser and jealouser by the minute.
All these flirts floating around . . . I guess I'll just have
to get a modem before school lets out again.

BTW, I meant to send large quantities of flirts, hugs, kisses
and gropes to any and all out there in my last post.  So large
quantities of flirts, hugs, kisses and gropes to any and all.  *grin*

It's good to be back.

Darren
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Okay...okay...here is an official demuffin...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:41:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com


Welcome to the group, and, oh, yes, <HUGS>.

Peggy
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eowyn@chopin.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis)
Subject: Re: muffins anonymous
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:32:47 GMT

>>Now that I no longer have a reason for lurking (isn't anonymity grand?), I
>>wanted to jump in and say hi.  "HI!"
>>
>>Eventually I hope to stop hiding behind an anonymous number, but for now
>>it feels great to finally take part in the discussions.
>>
>>I've suffered the sting of bi-wariness, I've come out to family and friends,
>>I've had my share of bad hair days, and yes...I occasionally would like to ask
>>for a hug.
>>
>>Thanks to all of you for being here.
>>
>>Renee

Welcome!
*HUG* *pounce* *hug*

Zoe, offering the same to any other muffins out there that she may have missed
on their way from the oven to people's tummies 



Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:34:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.180627.12954@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>I've been asked via e-mail to offer my views on this thread, so I may
>pontificate at some length. But first let me say: IMHO IMHO YMMV YMMV 
>BYOB RSVP SMTP etc... ;)

Barely had Professor Lunde with trembling voice intoned the words,
the writing of which was now scarcely legible, masked with fresh blood as
it was, from the scrap of the grimoire found in the mad Arab's tomb,
and barely had his shaking hand sketched out in the empurpled air
of the incense-filled crypt that Sign, known by few and dared to be used
by yet fewer, than - behold - to the accompaniment of tinkling cymbals
and madly-piping flutes - a congeries of iridescent vapours, toiled
into shimmering spheres of infinite and arbitrary-seeming dimensionalities,
the emblem of the dread Yog-Sothoth!

		Kay (sillier than usual today)
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:26:38 GMT

pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
> I had a personal experience with bi-wariness last night, and
> it has left me feeling, well, depressed, saddened, grief stricken,
> or whatever.

<HUGZ> <rumple> <snuggle> <giggle> <smooch> <tickle> <snuggle> <HUGZ>

I'm sorry this has hit you so hard.  I'd like to offer a positive
point of view:

  Biphobia in the lesbian community is getting less.  This incident is
  evidence of it, as these people would never before have told you this.
  They now feel safe enough about bisexuals and bisexuality to be able
  to look at their feelings and communicate them, instead being too
  terrified to do anything but attack and try to drive you away.

What happened wasn't pleasant, but it was evidence (to me ;-) that
these women *are* moving closer to you.  

I also have a suggestion: send to ECBN for the pamphlet _Using the
Klein Scale to Teach about Sexual Orientation_, and see if you or
someone else can do a presentation of it for some of the groups you
are in.  Bobbi Keppel's (the developer of the presentation) experience
includes giving it in several groups which included hostile lesbians
who have since actually become supportive of her.  I have also had
good experiences in using it with gay men.  One to whom I had sent a
package of ECBN pamphlets (including this one) some time ago told me
this weekend that he had read them and come away with a sense of hope
for the world and for LBG liberation.  I strongly recommend it.

 -Alan

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: On the Making of Crumbs.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:38:12 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: ex muffin crumbs

In article <1993Jan12.161201.4373@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> cyan@uhura.cc.rochester.edu writes:
>Dangermouse is still on Nick; at 06:30AM (EST) and Sunday mornings (I forget
>the time, around 09:30 or 10:00AM). Sure beats watching AGDay or some TV
>minister damning us to hell ;-)!

6:30 AM! Egad! No wonder I haven't seen it lately.  Thanks for the info,
though.

Peggy
From: moragw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Alloy Serving Woman)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Anyone read Sandman?
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:11:30 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

I should have guessed a sandman reference would pop up here eventually. 
I don't know anyone in Edinburgh who _doesn't_ read it.  Or anyone who
doesn't wish that Death really looked like that...  What a way to go...
That woman has been responsible for converting two supposedly straight
women into raving bis, desperately chasing suitably gothy-looking women
to live out their respective death fantasies.  I understand how they
feel, drool...
Sorry, its just the effect wierdly black clad women have on me.  
Must go now and stalk the one thats currently floating past the window
(easily side-tracked, who, me?)

Mo
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:12:35 GMT

In article <C0pIGI.83@news.udel.edu>
 seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>In article <1isilbINNesr@cuda.add.itg.ti.com>
 winsor@geek. (js) writes:
>>
>>Wonderful!  Now, how do I get mine, too?!  "Jim" that is,
>>I can handle the white zinfandel myself.  *grin*
>>
>>john "it's only 2500 miles or so"  js
>
>Well, i hear that they are coming out with a blow-up doll of me due out
>in may. :)

Yay!  Just in time for my birthday.  *grin*  Where can I order one?

>  2500 miles, hmm? well under my frequent flyer plan
>it would really be worth the trip. ;)

In that case, since I live relatively close to john, I'll wait for
the real thing.  (or at least a sample)

>Jim

Darren

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:48:13 GMT

In article <1idgfrINNelk@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>First things first:
>
>*swipes Jim off his feet* 
>*pulls him closer*
>*hugs him closely, warmly, and a bunch of other good adjectives*
>*gives him a gentle backrub*
>
>In article <C0C2ED.Cxr@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>
>->I am quite annoyed with being closetted.  I want to be out and sincere with 
>->the people who I meet and know.
>
>From personal experience, I can say it's a nice feeling ... 
>
>->I have a question for the bunch.  Where does the balance lie between discretion
>->and safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other?
>
>Aaaah ... and there you hit the Big one.
>
>It depends on where you are, doesn't it?
>
>I live in the bay area.  My perception of this area is as SafeSpace.  For
>me, therefore, discreteness and safety are not an issue ... but sincerity
>and openness are.  I can be as out as I want, and I _use_ that opportunity,
>because for me, coming out to strangers is a wonderful feeling.  

Well, I'm where Jim is and I agree with him that sincerity and openness can
be a dangerous proposition (so to speak) if not tempered with discretion.  
But I just spent a weekend at a sci-fi convention (EveCon 10) where safety
and discretion were not as much of a concern.  Now, I'm not bi, per se, but 
I'm affectionate that I often get the label and some of the responses associ-
ated with it.  But at this con, everyone just acted like who they were and
said and did what they wanted to.  That openness is wonderful and it's a shame
that it doesn't exist everywhere.
>
>There are exceptions: I will try very hard ot be a bit more subdued when
>outing myself may cause the implicit outing of others around me ... but
>those are rare.

Geez, I wish I was in the kind of environment where acting natural was the 
standard and holding back was the exception.  Must be nice, Roy.

>
>Hugs to Jim again  ...
>
>-roy

				*HUG*HUG*HUG*HUG*
				Steve
-- 
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| Stephen C. Litterst           |  Nice guys finish last...              |
| kyraan@bach.udel.edu           \ 	But we do get to sleep in.       |
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: vdijk@io.tudelft.nl
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Organization: TU Delft, Faculty IO
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:33:37 GMT

In article <1ieundINNfrl@transfer.stratus.com>, pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
> Maybe it's just one of those weeks, but I'm feeling unusally
> pessimistic, that I'll never find a woman, never move off this
> point in my life.  I'm feeling fragile and in need of support.

Hi Peggy.  I used to have a firm conviction that any group of people
(white, black, muslim, chistian, feminist, gay, you name it) has its
equal share of assholes.  Just the fact that a group is a group because
they happen to share some firm conviction (yeah ;-) ) makes some of
them speak out loud and reveal themselves as such.

Soc.bi sort of changed my ideas on this.  Being a group where people
tend to think of things from both sides seems to attract the more
sensible among us.  That's why I was a muffin for 1.5 years when I
could not post.  Nevertheless, if somebody behaves so rude to me
as happened to you (be they bi or gay or whatever) I am depressed
for a night - then I discard the feeling and start over again.  Only
the regular part of the gays/lesbians are that rude you know!  And
your net.personality tastes sensible and sweet enough - bet you have
a sweet supportive arm around you before the month is done.  (We could
always mobilize the soc.bi netters in your neighborhood :-).

Hugs and kisses, Casper
(I should read my own advice when I am down myself.  Wonder if I laugh
or cry..)

Casper G.C. van Dijk               "Broken words,
Delft University of Technology      never meant to be spoken"
the Netherlands                                    Bob Dylan

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly)
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Organization: Rational
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:16:51 GMT

pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:

>I had a personal experience with bi-wariness last night, and
>it has left me feeling, well, depressed, saddened, grief stricken,
>or whatever.


A very big engrossing and empathetic hug.

Its not easy, with lesbians .... but you can find women who can deal
with your bisexuality. I wish I could give you advice, or help you,
but it just takes time, and no matter what you will still meet with
opposition from some lesbians.  And no matter what politics people
will spout, at the end of the day, I think it is just down to personal
fear.  

Good luck,

Iseult.
From: kenj@kambo.esd.sgi.com (Ken Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexu-l information wanted
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:25:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kambo.esd.sgi.com

seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:

>Can someone send me information about how to access
>the mailing group Bisexu-l?

Simplicity.  Or is that complicity?  Anyway, the capsule summary:

    Subscriptions: Listserv@brownvm (BITNET) or                    
		   Listserv@brownvm.brown.edu (Internet)    
    Posting:       Bisexu-L@brownvm (BITNET) or    
		   Bisexu-L@brownvm.brown.edu (Internet)    
	
	Bisexual issues and interests.  Men and women, mostly at    
	academic institutions. Quite active.
       
	Subscribe by sending a message to the LISTSERV address containing:
       
	    sub BISEXU-L your_name
       
	replacing "your_name" with your real name.

Don't send your subscription request to the BISEXU-L address or we'll
tease you unmercifully.

- Ken, not at an academic institution, but quite active
  kenj@sgi.com
From: sara@festival.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: John Tavener
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:37:01 GMT

kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:

>So.  All you non-JT fans, hit ^K now, or whatever similar they say in
>your neck of the woods.  And I apologise for the bandwidthburning.

Who?

Sara, getting her own back for the Kate Bush Thing
From: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:57:38 GMT
Organization: Tiny Income
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan5.154017.21202@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith) writes:

*** Someone once told me that, over a computer, I was very much like Eeyore.
*** She didn't say whether it applied to real life, too.  I have to say, as
*** someone brought up with A A Milne, rather than Disney, I find what the
*** latter has done to the characters rather, well, inappropriate....
I, too, was brought up on AAMilne.  I didn't even know there *was*
as Disney takeover until I began indoctrinating my child with Pooh.
And, I feel that the characters are pretty true to form.  Disney is
the only entertainment company that I'd *trust* to preserve the
integrity of the original characters as much as is possible when
putting them to animation.

My opinion.

john
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Bisexu-l information wanted
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1993Jan7.145340.6013@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:45:08 GMT

mpon@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Malcolm Pon) writes:
> I'm subscribed to Bisexu-L now, and I have to say that it's more like
> 80-100 messages per day... at least when we're talking about non-holiday
> situations.

I have updated the estimate in the _Bisexual Resource List_.

Thanks!
 -Alan
From: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A demuffining at last
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:18:51 GMT
Organization: Tiny Income
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan7.195824.11417@midway.uchicago.edu>, mort@quads.uchicago.edu (Dave 'Mort' Mortman) writes:
*** I've been lurking about for the past 4 months or so and finally decided
*** to make a post. So here I am. I figured it was about time to make an
*** appearance.
*** 
*** Dave "Mort" Mortman				      mort@midway.uchicago.edu
Welcome aboard!

john
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: interesting lunch conversation
Keywords: I'm back
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:20:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.211827.21314@ctp.com> sthor@ctp.com (Sarah Thornburg) writes:

>Well, it was annoying.  I just have to keep thinking back to the weekend and
>remind myself that there are places where it is safe to go and meet other
>wmen,a dn surprisingly, alot of them look just like me - the average firl on
>the street.  And I love it.

I've never seen any firls on the street.  Would you care to describe
one?  :-)


--
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Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
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Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk