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From: sodhi@news.miami.edu (Rajpal Sodhi)
Subject: Re: re:Khalistan
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:43:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.151016.3723@asl.dl.nec.com> murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy) writes:
>[Mr. Sahni's post deleted]
>
>Mr. Sahni,
>
>Your comments were moving and very sober. One thing
>people also forget is that the vast majority of Indians
>were horrified by the riots. Many suffered mental trauma
>
[...]

>The riots were instigated by politicians. I hope
>you'll agree with that. No sane person, with or without
>
[...]

>other, but I, as an individual, want to apologize to you
>for any pain you may have suffered. One of my closest friends

[...]

>
>
>Best Regards
>
>Vasudev
>
>-- 
>Vasudev Murthy             Any opinions expressed are strictly  
>murthy@asl.dl.nec.com      my own  and have nothing to do with
>(214) 518-5031             Advanced Switching Lab, NEC America, Inc.
>1525 Walnut Hill Lane Irving TX 75038


tell you what,nothing will assuage our (sikhs') feelings more than the fair
and immediate punishment of all those responsible for the 84 massacre,
regardless of their office, in public.

if :

1. majority of indians  are horrified with the butchery of november 84
and
2. politicians are widely seen to be responsible for this and
3. india is a fair democracy

then:
what keeps the guilty from getting punished?

the sikhs are not looking for technical answers.

--rajpal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: swami1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (swaminathan,kashi r)
Subject: Re: Indian civilization being oldest
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:35:57 GMT

In article <Mf2bDyG00UhB02QmFE@andrew.cmu.edu> Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>That racism was rampant in his posts was completely evident
>
>I hate to tell you this, but it is you trying very hard at propagating
>the 'great Aryan lies.' I've been following your posts very carefully.
>Some of that
>crap can come only from the Ayodya based nuts. 
>
>>Finally try to learm some south Indian history. May be Tamil
>>scholars are ignorant about the Sathavahanas, Hoysalas, Chalukyas,
>
>Who the hell needs to learn about any of this? Maybe, you should try to
>learn more of the Tamil literature, history and arts. Are you confusing
>your blind 'Indian patriotism' with your inability to defend too many of
>your Aryan myths? Or, for you(it's quite obious), one must believe in
>the 'great deeds of Vedic poeple' to be a 'true Indian'? What a load of
>nonsence! 
>
>Or, I don't want to pretend to speak for all the Tamils from TN...just a
>few from there and more from Eelam. And I DONT need to sudy about
>Sathavahanas, Hoysalas, Chalukyas or whatever you can come up with. Too
>many Vedic 'holy men' have already diluted many Tamil acievements in an
>hegemonic manner. Or one more, thing: there is ample evidence that
>exists in both in Tamil Nadu and in Eelam that will prove to your Aryan
>brain that Tamils were indeed the Nagas. 
>Have a vice Vedic day!
>
>-Suresh
>
>
By the way how does it go? Vedam Therintha tamizhnadu, or is it
Vedam arindha tamizhnadu?
From: ihusain@pyramid.COM (Intisar Husain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Information needed on F-1
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:40:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California


Hello,

About 4 years ago when my F-1 visa was expired, I went to 
Mexico, and they issue/extended my F-1 visa. 

Does anybody has any recent experience, about obtaining
F-1 visa from Mexico or Canada, a freind of mine is looking
for such information.

Thanks in advance.

Intisar.
ihusain@pyramid.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Subject: How is profit calculated for a subsidiary?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:52:09 GMT


How is profit calculated for a subsidiary of a foreign company located in
India? For example, many foreign software companies have their subsidiaries
(assume a 100 percent export oriented unit owned by a foreign firm)
in India that develop software for their parent companies.  The parent
companies pay a sum to their subsidiaries (I assume this one) to execute
the project. What is the profit made by the subsidiary in this case?
Is it the amount saved by the sudsidiary out of the amount paid by the 
parent company or is it the amount saved by the parent company if the 
same project were executed at the location of the parent company or is it
something else?

If you know the answer, please e-mail it to krishnan@ddd.itg.ti.com

Regards,

Krishnan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: hindi film recommendation
From: jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:33:21 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Names of some good hindi movies

1. IZZAZAT (*ing Nazruddin Shah, Rekha, and Anuradha Paudwal)
2. DHRISTI (*ing Dimple Kapadia, and Shekhar kapoor)
3. DEEWANA (*ing Rishi Kapoor, Divya Bharti, and Sharuk Khan. HE is a new actor
            but he used to come in "Fooji"  TV serial  in India. he is really
            good and songs are  extremely good)
4. JO JEETa WOHI SIKANDER (*ing   Amir Khan, Ayesha Julkar and Pooja Bedi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: murthy_j@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jayant Murthy)
Subject: Re: MOLCOM (Malcolm) X, A TRUE REVOLUTIONIST.
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:10:38 GMT

In article <1466@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem) writes:
>: In article <1443@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>: >Hay guys/gals, the movie "Molcom X" is getting released
>: >tomorrow, and my suggestion to all is to take a 
>: 
>: 	No offense, but what about "Molcom" parts I thru IX ??
>
>Without going into details, let me briefly state that its not
>number "ten", but "Ex". Molcom Little wanted to shed his last
>name, 'cze it showed to the world that he was "little"(to whites).
>He changed his name to "Molcom Ex", symbolizing, Ex-smoker, Ex-drug
>peddler, Ex-everything. For more details, either read his
>autobiography(as told to Mr Healey OR watch Spike Lee's recent
>movie)
>: 
>: 	Prem!

I believe that the 'X' actually stood for his "true" name which was lost
when his ancestors were sold into slavery. Also the correct spelling of the
name is Malcolm, "Molcom" is gettin annoying after about the 100th repetition.

Jayant
From: garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: re:Khalistan
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:30:28 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

 
A reply to a message written by: rajain@sml11.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
 
>  If you ask *me*....I was as scared as any sikh (eventhough I 
>  am a hindu !) and was trying to make sure that none of the
>  rioters harm my family!!! Did you really think that the rioters
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  in general were after sikhs ? (of course the Cong(I) MP's etc.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  were...but I am talking about the "others"). Man! if you were in
 
  A few thousand Sikhs died and Hindu deaths probably less than a 
dozen, if any for that matter, so who do you think they were after 
the Japanese?
 
> As far as your other question goes, there were no riots when Rajiv
> "Gandu" died because, as far as *my* memory stretches, I still
> cannot recall if some prominent person with the name of "Rajiv Gandu"
> esisted in India whose death should have resulted (as you expect)
> in riots !!! ....wwwwwwaaaaaait a minute....I *do* recall that there
> was a PM by the name of "Rajiv Gandhi" but "Rajiv Gandu"...........
> ......sorry still can't recall that name !
 
  With all these Rajiv's i'm getting mixed up, which one was noted for 
saying that hey stayed young by drinking his own urine?   :^)
 
/\ A friend of mine mentioned that to me, is it really true or was 
   he just joking? - If it's a lie i'll take the comment back!

Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Respect for female readers (was Re: Indian T..)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:12:54 GMT

In article <1403@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>Does your CHAMCHA also been included in the list?? Lately, quite
>few of your CHAMCHAS have been running to my sys administrator.
>
>SN

If SEVERAL people have been complaining about your your infinite stupidity,
your neo-NAZI hatred, and your perverted sexual preferences for beasts of
burden and rodents, then maybe your account should be revoked.  One does not
give a loaded weapon to a child, as he does not know how to use it.  So too
should God have not given you a brain and your sys admin not given you an
account.

Ed
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Reservations-Governmental Intervention Necessary.
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:36:05 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RESERVATIONS
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: California State University, Chico
Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov20.011428.6485@cs.wayne.edu> uds@usha.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.204900.23826@njitgw.njit.edu> subu@sensors.njit.edu (Ayyagari V. Subramanyam) writes:
>
>I see quite a few posters expression complete loss of hope, that reservation
>issue will be `put in its right place'.   Technically, the supreme court
>ruling is worthless.  It just measn that the right of the VP singh govt
>in accepting the mandal report is perfectly okay by the constitutional
>norms. The question as whether, using a biased or inaccurate survey to 
>influence close to 1-billion people, is not a violation of people 
>constitutional rights has not yet been attempted by sumpreme court.  
>Maybe someone has placed an appeal on this...  Lets wait & see...
>
>
>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
>
>As for the promotions ruling etc..., I am wainting for IT for a more
>indepth report, before I express my comments...

Well we have to wait for either the Central Government to present a Bill
in Parliament to modify the ruling of the Supreme Court, or be prepared,
for another round of agitations in India. Probably,  it would be prudent 
for the GOI, to enact a law due to which the economically deprived class
which really needs the benefit of reservations.

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
From: rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:36:23 GMT
Organization: --------------------
NNTP-Posting-Host: pima.intel.com
Keywords: An arrow has been shot -) -)


From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

>> In article <CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.ed u (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>> ........deleted.........
> Is n't Mohammed proved wrong here?  "- No new faith will be
> born .". Huun... May be Mr Mohammed had no idea about Sikhism, Bahaism 
> and Kabir Panthis - all started after Mohammed's above declaration. I am 
> quite sure that there would be many other minor faiths, all started after 
> his above (pompous) declaration. Seems like Mr GOD was playing a joke 
> on Mr Mohammed or someone is misquoting GOD/Mohammed.
> bkumar

  Question: Does the famous words of the Ayotollah, "An arrow has
            been shot" ring a familiar chord ? 
  Hint    : Salman Rushdie. 

  Well -) .........
  
Krithi. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: k0a9389@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kumar Akhilesh)
Subject: Two tickets from Houston to Calcutta and back on for sale
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:36:20 GMT

Hi Everybody,
	      This is IMPORTANT:

	      Two fully CONFIRMED TICKETS from HOUSTON to CALCUTTA with the
	      following specifications are available for sale:

	      Airline : Thai airways
	      Departure : 17th December from Houston (on Continental via LA)
	      Stop-over : In Bangkok overnight (Hotel fare included)
	      Arrival : 19th December in Calcutta
	      Return journey : From Calcutta on 19th January (following similar
							      schedule on way 
							      back to Houston)
              Anyone interested, please send a mail to the following mailing
	      address:

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	      A prompt response would be greatly appreciated. 

	      Thank you, 
			 Rajarshi Mukherjee
			 (11/21/92)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Ras-Malai recipe(s) needed! (second try) 
Summary: save me from my information-hoarding friends!! :-) 
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:25:04 GMT

This article may have been posted twice due to a brain-damaged 
newsreader. Many humble apologies if this is the second time
you are seeing this....


Net.food_fiends:

a gifted but extremely selfish and secretive friend ;-) who I shall
identify only as Adil Soofi, contractor extraordinaire , IBM,  made an awesome 
ras malai dessert yesterday evening.  When pressed for the recipe, he alluded 
to the almighty usenet and mumbled something about  "family secrets" etc.
Not wanting to press him any further, I thought I'd try my luck with 
you folks.  So please fire away!! Drown me in ras-malai recipes. If 
people are interested, I'll summarize and post.  BTW: I  THINK the 
ras-malai was ricotta-based but more than that, I can't guess...

fmb
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Standard High-Tech Disclaimer: NOTHING  in the above article has the slightest 
relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
From: aoab314@ut-emx.uucp (Srinivas Bettadpur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: LUDICROUS POSTINGS
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:06:25 GMT
Organization: Center for Space Research, U of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Nov11.223647.5187@schbbs.mot.com> C11810@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Manisha Patel) writes:
>   [ to a lot deleted material.....
>
>WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU YOU GUYS WRITING ABOUT?????  I AM TRYING TO
>FOLLOW YOUR ARTICLES AND I AM TOTALLY LOST.  BY THE WAY WHO IS
>"COBRA"???????

   I don't understand it fully either, but it seems to be some kind
of a private war, being carried out in public.  By the way, to the
folks who post article frequently :

             *  If you are going to follow up with a "smart-aleck" one 
liner, please do not include 80 lines of text from the original article.

             *  If your comments are irrelevant to the general public,
send e-mail, do not post a follow up.

             *  There *is* a difference between a flame-fest and a free
flow of abuse.

  The number of articles on this group is getting totally ludicrous, 
and it is not unreasonable to ask folks to follow basic netiquette.
                           Cheers
                                                  Srinivas
-- 
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From: ravic@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Caste - anachronistic and fatuous classification
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:41:33 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: ravic@venture.austin.ibm.com


          Caste titles were meant to reflect your profession, nothing
     more or nothing less. Few centuries back, when this nomenclature
     was coined, it was possible to reflect most of the practised
      professions by that nomenclature(Shudra,Brahmin,Vaisya,Kshatriya).
     It is fatuous to use this anachronistic classification to
      reflect all current professions. Most of us on SCI net belong
      to ENGINEER caste. Most of the people who work in defense or
      other national security organizations may be classified as
      Kshatriyas. The idea of inheriting a professional classification
      was ok few centuries back, when most people from a family
      remained in the same profession.

           Unfortunately, most, so called educated, indians
     still use the outdated classification and accept/tolerate
     others who do the same. Some are even willing to kill to
     hang on to it. Sad state of affairs...., something to
     think about.

-- 
     Ravindra  
      
Disclaimer:"My employer is in no way responsible for my opinions in this post."
Internet: ravic@austin.ibm.com                Phone: (512)-838-5163(Work)
From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Tropical Storm Strikes Southern India
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:51:02 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <BxtCHD.DnD@ns1.nodak.edu> ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.230757.20410@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu (JACK) writes:
>>   A tropical storm moved across the southern tip of India on 14 November. If
>>anyone on this group has any meteorological information or word on damage and
>>casualties, could you please either post it to the net or e-mail it to me?
>>
>
>    The latest reports I heard were on Sunday. THere were 260 deaths in India
>and eight in Sri Lanka. There is a report of 120 deaths in Tamil Nadu and 30 in
>Kerala. In Kerala, one village is said to have been completely swept away by a
>flooded river (or stream).
>
>
>>Jack Beven
>>
>K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
>
>Department of Electrical Engineering
>North Dakota State University
>Fargo, ND 58105  USA
>
>Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
>        (701)235-9912  (h)

This is what I read on today's New York Times:




Heavy Rains in South India
Leave More Than 230 Dead

	NEW DELHI, Nov. 15 (AP) - Torrential rains, floods and mudslides over
the last four days have left more than 230 people dead and thousands homeless
in southern India, news reports said today.
	About 120 people were feared dead in landslides in the hills of Tamil
Nadu state, officials said. At least 80 people drowned or were crushed to death
when their homes collasped, United News of India said, and 34 people died in
Kerela state.
	More than 5,000 people were evacuated after their homes on the banks of Vaigai River were submerged, the agency said.





Somebody had mentioned NYT only carrying bad news about India but this is going
too far - believe it or not this same article appears twice on today's NYT!!!
	Once on A7, and once on A9!!!! I can't believe it!!!
	My NYT is Printed in California, I don't know if all NYTs have this
method (brilliant!) for spreading bad news about India. Check it out and let
me know.


Thanks

A. Lal
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Subject: Re: Bad experience on Malaysia Airlines
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:32:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.031117.22136@athena.cs.uga.edu> venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (ABDUL PETER IYENGAR) writes:
>
>MS Aruna Mahadevan thinks like most Indians abroad do,A couple of
>trips between here and India and they nominate themselves as members of the 
>elite jetsetting club and expect the air hostess and stewards to wait hand
>and foot on them.Apart from getting your meals on time and soft drinks or 
>liquor which they promptly do are they supposed to to a song and dance

Not at all, contrary to exaggerations above, both Aruna's article and the
follow up were focused on inconveniences experienced, as opposed to lack
of servile treatment.

>How many of us can maintain a consistent face with the hundreds of 
>different people with their different peculiarities and whims and fancies.

The dissatisfaction, arising of a four day journey to India, delays not
nullified by hotel reservations or in the very least provision of alternate
connecting flight information, etc., is not peculiar, fancy or whimsical
even if one doesn't factor out the obnoxious levels of service depicted
in your comment, not alluded to by any posting on the topic.

>It is like discussing poverty in a five star hotel.

 ?

Vijay.

P.S. I've excluded rec.travel, the note is more pertinent to Indians than
travel in general.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: The Battles which Muhammad fought
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:53:49 GMT





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Article: 3702 of soc.religion.islam
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: re:Khalistan
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:55:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.151016.3723@asl.dl.nec.com> murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy) writes:
>
>It is easier to divide by recalling incidents
>of callousness and barbarity than to unite by recalling
>the warmth of friendships and good deeds. I remember
>cricket matches, beer on the sly, studying together
>(with equally miserable results!), sleepovers, the highly
>complicated procurement of "Pondies" from "sources", Diwali,
>Holi, and such generally pleasant incidents. All this may
>be hard for Gary to connect with, but I think many others will.

Exactly! After sharing such similar experiences myself, I think 
people like Gary should be gagged & dragged back to India to show 
them what the reality there is like. All that his myopic vision 
can see is the morons of the '84 riots since that is all whom 
he has heard about. Had he actually been there, he would have seen
the other side of the coin too. 

regards,
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