HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: Cesium, Part V
Keywords: here we go again!
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:20:07 GMT

In article <6919@news.duke.edu>, laurap@neuro.duke.edu (Laura Elizabeth Poole) writes:

|> kiwi
|> 
|> ok, obscure reference to something funny (congrats to all the correct Bill
|> Cosby identifiers!)...let's see. ok, here's one. first prize is an original,
|> possibly autographed photograph of something or other.
|> 
|> identify who said this :  "The enemy is wearing black. This says it ALL to
|> me! You can fight in the jungle, put on some pearls, and you're ready for
|> evening wear! It's a Hefner thing, the pajamas, they're saying I can fight or
|> I can just lay around."
|> (sorry if i got it a bit mixed up)
|> -- 
|> 
Robin Williams, from _Good Morning Vietnam_

-- 
Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
-John Stuart Mill
From: laurap@neuro.duke.edu (Laura Elizabeth Poole)
Newsgroups: alt.cesium
Subject: Cesium, part IV
Keywords: friendly lump, chicken heart
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:09:36 GMT

Cesium and I went to the movie marathon this weekend. Cesium especially wanted
to see The Chicken Heart that Ate New York (again!), and I went because they
were showing Basket Case and I Spit on Your Grave.

Cesium likes bad movies. At least, the friendly lump of cesium that *I* know
likes bad movies!

kiwi "congrats to all you Bill Cosby trivia buffs! try this one:
      what is the significance of baby-coach wheels?"

-- 

her nose is painted pepper sunlight
Newsgroups: alt.cesium
From: awpaeth@watpix.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Wm Paeth)
Subject: Re: Cesium, Part V
Keywords: here we go again!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:01:18 GMT

In article <6919@news.duke.edu> laurap@neuro.duke.edu (Laura Elizabeth Poole) writes:
>Today, Cesium and I went down to Gloria Jean's to get some coffee. I got mocha.
>Cesium got cappucino. She got very hyper and started emitting gamma rays, which
>happens when she gets too much caffeine. I had to hose her down so I wouldn't
>develop any cysts. She calmed down, and apologized for causing all the hair
>to fall out of my cat. 
>

Oh man! I had a friend named Caesium for awhile. Basically, a positive sort. A
real go-getter. But I'd never hose her down. Even rainwater brought out a real
violent reaction and she'd turn downright caustic. I figured her as the earthy,
elemental sort but alas! she was fine to be around only salved in makeup. When
raw and exposed she'd react with just about anything. We finally split after I
met a radiant cousin of hers named Rubidium, who had beautiful lines.

    /Alan Paeth
    Computer Graphics Lab
    University of Waterloo 
Newsgroups: alt.cesium
From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Re: Cesium, part IV
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:15:50 GMT


In a previous article, laurap@neuro.duke.edu (Laura Elizabeth Poole) says:


>kiwi "congrats to all you Bill Cosby trivia buffs! try this one:
>      what is the significance of baby-coach wheels?"

You need them for your go-cart.
Newsgroups: alt.cesium
From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: interview!
Keywords: cesium
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:44:21 GMT

Bravo!

(So, what did all the cesiumites do for halloween?)
-- 

Lon Lowen Jr.                        |  Wayne State University
Netcom Online Communications         |  Detroit, Michigan
lllowen@netcom.com                   |  (lllowen@mts.cc.wayne.edu)
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From: rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:03:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: newbirth

In article <1992Nov10.211449.2469@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fraser@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (Scott Fraser) writes:
>Sender: 
>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: 
>Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>Keywords: 
>
>In article <lg02k9INNqpb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes:
>>
>>    BTW, California residents should note that a new law, AB2465,
>>    will go into effect in January '93.  Penalties of $2,500 and a
>>    year in jail for first offenders, $10,000 and more jailtime
>>    for repeat offenders.  These penalties can be assessed if you
>>    are caught listening to CORDLESS, or CELLULAR, phone conversations
>>    with your scanner.
>>--
>How does the measure mentioned above change or increase penalties from the
>EXISTING measures on the book?  See the text below for info.

    Thanks for posting the complete text.  My understanding is that
    the law was passed some time ago, but it doesn't take effect
    until January 1, 1993.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.															        "The right to brew beer is the right to be free!" - me
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: rgb@ldgo.columbia.edu (bob bookbinder)
Subject: need Fla Disney freqs
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:35:14 GMT

	Would someone mail me the list of Florida Disney/Epcot/MGM
frequencies. There was a nice posting of Anaheim frequencies
a while back, but I don't have the Florida list and that's where
we're going.




				Bob Bookbinder

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University
Palisades, New York 10964
Analog: 	914-359-2900 X 498
Digital:	rgb@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
Fax:		914-359-5215
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From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:21:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service

In article <1992Nov8.044457.4440@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>schuch@phx.mcd.mot.com (John Schuch) writes:
>
>>Suppose you were listening to cordless on night and heard a neighbor
>>answer a call. In the conversation, the neighbor arranges for someone
>>to come over and pick-up a small quantity of marijuana, say, two joints.
>
>>Would you call the police?
>
For a couple of joints.  Porbably not.  If the person was a regualr dealer
maybe yes.  If it was crack , yes.


>	You would be a rat.  If I knew a person who posted about
>doing such a thing, and I knew the names of the people he informed on, 
>I would want to inform them of his identity and physical address.
>Were I to inform on such a person as yourself, I would in fact be 
>doing the same thing as you would be doing with your first call.   Both 
>are hypotetical situations of course.
>(the main difference is that the second rat-act is retalitory)
>

What if they were running a crack house, molesting little kids
or ripping your other neighbors off?  You would be as low
as the people doing the deed if you didn't even anonomusly
help (at the least).  



-- 
Joe Freeman	jfreem@uncecs.edu
		jfreeman@next.com (NeXT Mail)
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not shared by my employer  or
anyone else I know of.  Flames can be mailed to me or routed to /dev/null.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:40:06 GMT

tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler) writes:
: >From article <1992Nov10.082413.22409@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, by billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson):
: >> jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman) writes:
: >> 
: >> If they were molesting people, or robbing people - then certainly.
: >> They are then harming other people. They are not doing so by running
: >> a crack house.
: >> 
:      Really?  I saw your daughter's school bus driver buying crack last 
:      night.

Fine. As long as the driver is not impaired on the job, it is none of my
business. If the driver is impaired on the job, for whatever reason, then
she needs to be put into treatment or fired.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.railroad
From: roma@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Roma)
Subject: Re: Amtrak frequencies?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:07:21 GMT

adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:

>In article <1992Nov1.213208.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu>, crand@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>> Hello, I am going to be taking the train from Omaha, Nebraska to Denver,
>> Colorado over Thanksgiving.  I would like to take my scanner with me.  I 
>> would like to find out what frequencies Amtrak (& its operators) use for
>> this part of the route.

>You should have cross-posted this query over in rec.railroad.  I took
>the liberty of cross-posting this followup message, so don't worry,
>now it's done...

>As far as I know, Amtrak uses the frequencies of the railroad whose
>tracks they are traveling over.  I think they might also have a few
>true Amtrak frequencies allocated to them for yard or on-train crews.

Amtrak uses 160.305 for on-board services transmissions.  Depending on
radio traffic, Amtrak crews simply uses the host railroad frequency for
transmissions related to on-board services.  Transmissions related to 
train operations are nearly always heard on the host railroad's frequency.

Send me email for a list of railroad frequencies.
>
>-- 
>
>Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
>UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
>ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov


-- 
Jon Roma
Computing and Communications Services Office,
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Internet:  roma@uiuc.edu      	UUCP:      uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!roma
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Subject: Re: neighbors & scanners
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: alt
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:58:25 GMT

"derek buchler" <derek.buchler@channel1.com> writes:

>I agree with with the above but what about a situation where you
>overheard a neighbor talking about how he/she had broken the law.  Then
>what?  Are you morally obligated to report the crime, or can one be
>prosecuted for repeating something that was not intended for him/her to
>hear?

	As I understand it, evidence obtained illegally is inadmissable
for court proceedings.  Section 605 of the communications Act of 1934
makes no bones about what you can and can't divulge (and IMHO, renders
the ECPA and Scanner Bans excessive).

	To put it simply, you can divulge things you hear on Broadcast
Radio (and Television, also considered a broadcast service), Amateur
Radio and relating to ships (and planes) in distress.  Period.  Nothing
else.

	There are some who would say that this collides somewhat with the
fact that the FCC has NOT and shows no signs of guaranteeing privacy to
*cordless* phone users.  Take note that Shadeo Rack, er, Radio Shack
ios now offering a scrambled cordless phone.

	As for moral obligations - well, morals are IMHO a matter for
each individual to decide, not for anyone to legislate.  In this day and
age, I think I'd be MORE worried about the potential suits against you
for slander, libel and whatever else some slimy lawyer can think of.

	Duane
From: techie@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Bob Vaughan)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Boycott Realistic/Radio Shack!
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:19:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: w6yx.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov5.154948.25106@netnews.louisville.edu> harpe@netnews.louisville.edu (Mike Harpe) writes:
>I will share what I do to protest the collection of the personal data at
>Radio Shack when I make a cash purchase.
>
>When they ask for the last four digits of my phone number, I pick a random
>four digit number.  When the list pops up, I say i'm not on it, give a 
>bogus name, the address of another Radio Shack and a permanent busy phone.
>I do not feel the least bit guilty about doing this when it's a cash sale.
>No amount of flaming will change my mind either.
>
>If enough people did this, they would stop it.  Yes, yes, I know that big
>purchases like scanners should be well documented for warranty purposes,
>but I think that collecting this data when I buy a coax adapter is silly.
>
>Mike
>

I just answer "Cash Customer" when asked for my phone number..


-- 
               -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine --
Bob Vaughan  | techie@netcom.com | (packet radio) KC6SXC@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
415-856-8025 | techie@w6yx.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org [44.4.0.49]
-- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? --
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: cdrice@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES DEE RICE)
Subject: freq. list for Raleigh/Durham NC
Originator: cdrice@c00061-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: lists Raleigh Durham NC
Reply-To: cdrice@eos.ncsu.edu (CHARLES DEE RICE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:43:56 GMT


I've been trying for some time now (to no avail) to come across a freq.
list for the Raleigh/Durham area.  (I am mainly interested in EMS and law
enforcement frequencies, including the Public Saftey here on campus).

If anyone should happen across a list of this nature or have one of your
own, please let me know where I could get it, or send it my way.

Millions of thanks
-- 

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| Charles Dee Rice         |  I think a good think to ask is if   |
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From: rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Post-scanner-ban service?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:21:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: newbirth

In article <1992Nov10.154732.12658@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>Regarding the cellular scanner ban (the law was signed by BUSH and
>will become law in six months, right?)...
>
>I understand that manufacturers can build cellular capable receivers
>for the next six months and then sell their existing stock.
>
>Will I still be able to get my cellular capable (800 MHz even if not
>modified to receive cellular) scanner serviced and returned to me
>when it dies long after the scanner ban is in effect?  Or will
>the law forbid servicing of cellular capable receivers manufactured
>before the ban took effect??

    Perhaps, at least for a while.  But I'd be worried about sending
    it in for service at the factory, then getting it back and
    finding that it had been "upgraded" to no longer be cellular
    capable.

    Buy a service manual, and some extra parts, and sock them away
    for a rainy day.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.															        "The right to brew beer is the right to be free!" - me
From: rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Opto's APS1 Active preselector
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:38:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: newbirth

In article <1992Nov4.194243.1@novax.llnl.gov> urbina@novax.llnl.gov writes:
>
>Anybody ever shell out the kilobuck for Optoelectronics APS1 Active
>preselector ?  I'd like to hear from anybody that has or done any field testing
>with this device.  Apparently from what I read, it electronically tunes the
>spectrum keeping a 5 mhz bandwidth window that extends the range of say an 
>Opto 3000 or an R-10 interceptor significantly.

    I haven't purchased on yet, but would like to.  It reportedly
    will give you about a 10 times sensitivity boost.  I'm not
    sure if it allows you to detect low power transmitters, but
    I'd think it would help.  BTW, I think you're thinking about
    the APS-104.  It also works with the Opto 2600, or 2810 as I
    recall.  I called Opto tech support once and asked them if it
    would ever come down in price, and they said they didn't think
    so.  The coils inside are all hand wound.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.															        "The right to brew beer is the right to be free!" - me
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 12 Nov 1992 12:02:33 MST
From: <ICJPS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject:    AR-2500

I am considering purchasing an AOR AR-2500.  I would welcome any feedback about
this unit, positive or otherwise.

Please reply by E-mail, and I'll summarize for the group.
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Encryption Questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:05:09 GMT
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA

Keywords: 

In article <BxIMGF.2LG@news.orst.edu> crippenw@ucs.orst.edu (William Crippen) writes:
]	I've been seeing a lot of talk lately about scrambling and encryption,
]        and am wondering about some new noises I'm hearing on  local police
]        frequencies. I hear clicks and beeps on federal channels, and am
]        assuming this is digital encryption. I know the "donald duck" sounds
]        on the local cab frequencies are done with phase inversion. What I'm
]        starting to hear now is a blank noise carrier, followed by a short 
]        high-pitch squeal-like beep. I've even heard replies in normal voice,
]        and I've heard other officers complain about the blank carriers.
]	  Any ideas on what this might be? It seems to be getting more popular
]	in this area. Could it be sub-carrier transmissions like the elevator
]	music attached to regular FM broadcasts?  Thanks for the info....
Digital encryption will sound like broadband noise - ie, it will sound like
your squelch is open on an empty channel. There might be beeps or clicks
before or after it, although I haven't heard such.
From: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2006 scanner for $336 on Prodigy
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:00:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu




I can KICK myself!!  I bought my PRO-2006 at Radio Shack for $399 (full
price).  There is a RS discounter on Prodigy that sells them for $336!!

Oh well....

-- 
Yes, it is true, I -AM- a scanner listener.  You are violating my air
space, while you are puffing away on your cigarette, talking on your
cellular phone.  First you complain about smokers rights, then you complain
when I listen to your phone conversations??!! THis is my air too bub!!  -ME
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: Re: ** THE FUTURE OF SCANNING? **
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:58:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.204333.6652@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>With all the talk lately about privacy in the cellular and cordless
>phone bands, I got to thinking about the future of the "scanning" hobby.
>What will it be like in 5 or 10 years?  No doubt digitally encrypted
>cordless and cellular phones will be common place.  What about the
>legal activity (at least legal where I live) of monitoring the
>police, sheriff and fire departments?  This is where I do 90% of
>my listening.  Will we see digital encryption and/or spread-spectrum
>technology here?  I don't doubt it!

        Not necessarily.  5 to 10 years is probably not enough time
        to drain all the installed base of analog units out of
        the system.  There is also the hidden benefit of the new scanner
        law: celltel companies, consumers, and most importantly, our
        wonderful legislators will be lulled (at least somewhat) into
        a false sense of complacency - "We've made it illegal, thereby
        fixing the problem".  Once the average guy cannot get an easily
        modifiable scanner, then this sort of "intrusion" will be much
        less of a mass phenomenon, thus resulting in even less attention
        paid to privacy issues.  This is what we should all want to happen, 
	as scanner enthusiasts!

>Receiving and decoding digitally encoded or spread-spectrum signals
>will probably be illegal.  Receivers that can monitor such signals
>will also be illegal.  While skilled RF and software engineers
>could build receivers to crack the code, such knowledge is beyond
>the reach of the average scanner enthusiast.

        Why?  There will be millions of transceivers capable of
        receiving the stuff - the celltels themselves.  Modify, and
        you're scanning again!  It may take a skilled individual to
	crack the first one, but after that the techniques would
	very likely be widely available.

>Guess I'll be going back to shortwave listening when all this comes
>about.  Maybe I'll start my own clandestine radio station just to keep
>things interesting.  ;-)

	I wonder if the folks at FCC.GOV read alt.radio.scanner :-) :-)
	FYI:
		 FCC     NS    server = VAXCI.FCC.GOV                 
		 FCC     NS    server = AMD.FCC.GOV                   

>Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

				Rick Spanbauer, SUNY/Stony Brook
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: What is diff between BC200 and BC205?
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:21:18 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

I believe the only difference is the color of the case.
200 = black and the 205 = grey. is that right?

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: pratt@utkvx2.utk.edu (Mark Pratt)
Subject: Back to best radio transmissions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:37:00 GMT

Here's a couple:

While in a local ER, a paramedic calls in on the radio:

Paramedic xx in route emergency traffic with a 36 year old male that was
EVICTED from his vehicle....

We all cackled over that one
-----
University of Tennessee, Knoxville police:

Car: Dispatch, I cannot locate the complaintant

Dispatch: well, it says that she will be standing on the sidewalk on xx street
looking towards the music building...Maybe she is too busy looking at the
building and not for you.

Mark Pratt
Pratt@utkvx.utk.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Post-scanner-ban service?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:47:32 GMT

Regarding the cellular scanner ban (the law was signed by BUSH and
will become law in six months, right?)...

I understand that manufacturers can build cellular capable receivers
for the next six months and then sell their existing stock.

Will I still be able to get my cellular capable (800 MHz even if not
modified to receive cellular) scanner serviced and returned to me
when it dies long after the scanner ban is in effect?  Or will
the law forbid servicing of cellular capable receivers manufactured
before the ban took effect??

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner