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From: jfr@RedBrick.COM ()
Subject: Re: Title Superimposition using Sony TR-81
Organization: Red Brick Systems, Los Gatos, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:38:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.035449.22139@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sidnag@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Sid Nag) writes:
>OK, maybe I'm not following the manual or maybe it's not in there....
>But is there a way to superimpose a title on a segment that has been
>*previously* recorded, using the Sony TR-81. If so please help !!
>Thanks,

  No, it can't be done inside the TR-81.  :-( 

  In fact, the only way to do it is to rerecord the scene and that
  would take two VCRs or camcorders.  There are not any consumer
  level VCRs (at least I know of) that can read video and rerecord
  it on the same tape.  That is a pretty tought trick.  And it is
  IMPOSSIBLE to "superimpose" a video signal (like titles) on top
  of a recorded video signal in any sensible way.  

  Jon

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Need info on 8mm vcr
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:13:10 GMT

    My Christmas wish book from Service Merchandise also shows a nice-looking
new RCA unit, supposedly available 12/1/92.  It has three heads, flying erase
head, VCR+ programming, on-screen, 181-channel cable ready, 8 event 1 year.
Price is $500.

    I believe I read in Videomaker magazine that several units are also
expected after the start of the year.  It's possible that given the large
number of 8mm camcorders there is definitely a market, but I wouldn't
look for 8mm software in vast quantities for quite some time.

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Who can doubt that pleasure is the only goal of a reasoned life?"
                                                   -- Epicurus
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimp@rpi.edu
Subject: test
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:35:46 GMT

I can't seem to post message using WinQVT/NET.  This is a test.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Little Shop LD
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:10:48 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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In article <Bxo1Cu.5uM@fc.hp.com> rjn@FC.HP.COM writes:
>Ethan Solomita (es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
>
>It sounds like there is some kind of color phase error during storage or
>playing back from storage.  This is to say that I would suspect a player
>misadjustment or defect.
>
	But this is the only disc with the problem. If this were
my player, why would everything else be fine? I tried the setting
that plays the movie (regular speed) through the digital buffer
and the same red-shift occurs.

	The other thing perhaps worth mentioning is that this is
a Warner release, although it is a Pioneer pressing.

	Thanks,
	-- Ethan


"President Bush - a man who has said 'Change' more times than
Madonna has said 'Yes'.

	-- Jeff Greenfield, ABC News
From: mtoomey@hestia.fcs.uga.edu (MARK EDWARD TOOMEY)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CD-I to compete with LD?
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:05:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: hestia.mtoomey.38.721350339
Organization: College of Family & Consumer Sciences, UGA

In article <1992Nov09.195442.13587@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

>As always the problem will be getting software to market, e.g. convincing
>movie distributors to release in the CD-I format and getting retail stores
>to sell or rent movies in CD-I format.  It has taken a long time and a lot
>of effort to get the LD market to the point it is now where there are several
>thousand movie titles readily available and several thousand more which
>were released but may currently be in short supply.  The market for
>pre-recorded S-VHS movies has gotten nowhere and the market for pre-recorded
>8mm movies is pretty minimal (and that with Sony, an owner of movie titles,
>supporting it).  Unless CD-I sells like Nintendo, I doubt if you will see
>many movies in this format either.

	William makes a valid point. It's difficult to anticipate the next 
consumer destination in any market. The rep from Phillips stated that it was 
their intent to 'do away' with the rental market by providing 5" CD-I movie 
disks at a retail price equivalent to that of Audio CDs! ($8-$15)
	
	Now, besides the fact that I think that may be a bit naive, I think 
they're missing the boat in trying once again to put another box in homes 
that, for its cost to the consumer, should be capable of many other 
functions besides that of a Audio/Video search engine disguised as an 
entertainment device.	

	Of course, being a PC/Mac affaciando makes me a biased observer
but if you're going to layout $2-$3K for the Interactive box, what do you do 
when the kids are ready for the next step i.e., programming & developing 
their own stuff? Buy them a computer which has all the CD-I box had PLUS the 
tools to let their imaginations truly run unbound.

Mark
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Ben Gilbert)
Subject: Extracting video sync
Keywords: sync NTSC composite genlock 
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:11:04 GMT

Well, I'm not sure if this is the right group to do this, but it must be
pretty close.  :)

Here's my question : how easy is it to extract the sync from an NTSC 
composite video signal, say, your typical VCR?  The reason I'm asking
is that the new Atari Falcon030 computer I'm about to get has an
easy capability for genlock, as follows :
	(discussion about Atari Falcon, quote from Bill Rehbock)

	"The box for doing overlay and genlock is relatively simple.
 It only needs to extract the external sync from your external video source,
 inject it into the external sync input on the 19-pin video connector, and
 output either Falcon video or external video, depending on the state of
 the overlay pin on the connector.  It can overlay RGB or composite."


This sounds to me like a pretty easy thing to do, with a logic chip or two
and the right connectors.  The only thing I don't know about is extracting
the external sync, so if anyone knows how this is done, I'd be glad to
hear from you.  


Thanks in advance!
-- 
Ben Gilbert				e-mail : bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
Department of Computer Science
University of Washington
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: marks@keinstr.uucp (Mike Marks)
Subject: Re: Sony Projctr Questions
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:34:48 GMT


doug@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Doug Parsons) writes:

>I took the cover off because I am contemplating mounting the unit on the
>ceiling.  However, I can't find any obvious switch anywhere to invert the
>picture.  Anyone have any clues as to it's whereabouts?

On my Novabeam set, there is a small circuit board with no components on
it, only traces.  This board has two plugs on it; on plugs into another
board (the one with the video drive controls); the other plug is not
connected.  To invert the picture, you simply unplug this board, turn it
over, then plug the other end back in.  I'd look for a similar 
arrangement, although I'm unfamiliar with the Sony projectors.

>Also, what are people's thoughts on screens?  I understand there are at least
>3 types - glass beaded, plain, and some-expensive-type.  Can anyone elaborate?

I have a plain screen because that's what the guy I bought my set from had.
From what I've seen, the beaded screens have a higher gain, or make
the picture brighter.  I have read in The Perfect Vision that some of the
higher-gain screens have uniformity problems, however.  If you
can get your viewing room really DARK (I can only use my projector
at night until we get some decent curtains), then you could probably
get by shining it on a white wall or a tightly stretched white bedsheet if
you want to go really cheap.  Hope this helps.
_____________________________________
Mike Marks
From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:33:51 GMT
Subject: Re: S-VHS Deck Questions & Recommendations?
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.video

> I'm thinking of ordering the SLV-R5UC, mostly because of its support for 
> Control L and other protocols, making it quite versatile, as well as
> its Edit Monitor feature, which lets you view both source and destination
> on the same TV or monitor.  This saves you an extra TV set.  

I've got an R5 and I think the Edit Monitor screen is less than useful;
I never use it cause the pictures are too small. I occasionally use the
PiP when editing, but for the most part I don't have a need to see both
source and record images at once.

A previous poster said you can eject a tape with the R5's remote. I
don't think this is true. 

> I'm also interested in response to this posting.  Which is the best
> value S-VHS, camcorder editing box?  How much more does it cost to
> get better than +-5 frame accuracy?

Timecode. So you need a TC generator and something like a Future Video
controller. Figure another $1500 to $2000. At that point, you're 
probably better off getting a Panasonic AG-1960 as your record deck.

			-- Chan

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Re: LD-101: A Pornographic Standard
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:34:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.173823.13954@bnr.ca>, dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer) writes:
|> 
|> I had no problems getting my copy of LD-101 into Canada.  Sight & Sound
|> sent it by U.S. Mail.  It arrived about 8 days after it was sent.  I had
|> to pay 7% GST (Gouge and Screw Tax) and 4.9% duty (they classified it as
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> a music compact disc) plus a $5 handling fee.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Therein lies the difference.  The Canadian government is VERY, VERY
picky about the content of video material.  When I received the bad
news, one other customer in the store sympathized.  He said he brings
laser discs across the border by telling the customs officer that they're
movie soundtrack records, not the movies themselves.  If it was
classified as a music compact disc, I would have had no problems.
 
|> -- 
|> dwjz@bnr.ca    Disclaimer: my opinions only  

-- 
   __ ___  
  /\ \ \ \  Anshu Prasad                        stud1b53@bnr.ca
 /--\ \/_/  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
/_/  \_\    All opinions are my own, not my employer's, BNR Ltd

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chrisp@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Chris Pelkie)
Subject: Re: S-Video monitor output on Denon AVR 1010 
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:18:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.001241.28518@mprgate.mpr.ca>, ng@mprgate.mpr.ca (Steve Ng) writes:
|> 
|> I connected the composite video input (VCR-1 input) of a Denon AVR 1010 
|> Prologic Receiver to my Sony VCR and the S-Video monitor output of the Denon 
|> to my Sony TV, there was nothing coming up on the TV. So I start to wonder
|> is there any converter inside Denon AVR 1010 Prologic Receiver to convert 
|> composite video input to S-Video output signal? In order word, if I want to 
|> receive signal on the S-Video monitor output of the Denon Receiver, I must 
|> feed the receiver with a S-Video input signal, or do I simply screwed up with
|> the connections or the operations of the receiver?
|> 
|> Thanks for any info.
|> 
|> Steve.

In the Pioneer VSX-D1S, composite and S-video are utterly
separate. Scared the pants off me when I first got it
(mail order), hooked up one S wire from SVHS deck to receiver,
and a line wire to the monitor (since I didn't have
another S wire that night). No video! Gad! Defective right
from the mail order place? No. Just your basic bozo who didn't
RTFM where it clearly states that these video paths are
separate. So either get a batch of expensive S wires, or
get some good line wires. I use line, cause I've tried
both ways, and honestly can't see a difference, even from
the 3090 to the D1S to the Hitachi monitor.
-- 
Chris Pelkie
Scientific Visualization Producer
Cornell Theory Center
Ithaca, NY 14853-3801
chrisp@tc.cornell.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: New LD release of MP & the Holy Grail
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:54:47 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: dewey@centerline.com's message of 10 Nov 1992 13:35:08 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Nov 1992 13:35:08 GMT, dewey@centerline.com (Devan F. dewey) said:

dewey> I've reserved myself a copy of the soon to be released Monty
dewey> Python and the Holy Grail on LD. Does any know if this is going
dewey> to be P&S or LBX???

Criterion will usually LBX there movies. But one question. I have
seen, here on the net, about an all CAV set, but in a Laser Craze
catolog, they had an all CLV version. Will there be both or one, and
if so which one?
--
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
From: lauren@CV.VORTEX.COM (Lauren Weinstein)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: CCD artifacts explained
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:42:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Greetings.  Occasionally I see questions regarding the commonly
observed artifact of bright vertical lines appearing in the vicinity
of bright objects with modern consumer camcorders.

The October 1992 issue of "Video Systems" has a nice little article
on the three types of CCD video arrays that addresses this issue.

Essentially, there are three types of CCD video systems.

The first is FT (Frame Transfer).  This was the earliest type developed, and
uses a mechanical shutter in conjunction with the CCD elements and has other
limitations.  It is most suited for still applications.

The second type is IT (Interline Transfer).  This is the sort of
unit used in most consumer camcorders today.  Why the brightness
artifact?  To quote the article:

"The only significant limitation remaining in current IT imagers
is an artifact called vertical smear with extreme highlights.
Because of the proximity of the sensing and storage elements,
extreme highlights may affect the content of the adjacent storage
register, creating a vertical line passing through the highlight."

The third type, and the sort used in most professional cameras,
is the FIT (Frame Interline Transfer).  To quote again:

"The charge packets are held in the interline register only for
a short time, and any contamination from a highlight is reduced
by a factor of 60 compared with the IT type...  However it is
complex and uses a larger chip area because of the separate storage
area.  It is therefore significantly more expensive to manufacture..."

I hope this helps explain a common question.

--Lauren--
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pejulaju@sandman.cs.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Subject: Re: Future value of LBX (Was Re: Philips 16:9 sets)
Reply-To: pejulaju@niksula.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:03:27 GMT

In article <20853@fritz.filenet.com> daver@fritz.filenet.com (Dave Richards) writes:

>To avoid a multitude of
>new formats, the intended aspect ratio of the software when expanded will
>probably always be 16:9.  

>So a 2.4:1 Panavision film would still have *slight* bands at the top and 
>bottom.  

I really hope this will be the case, but I "have a bad feeling about this."
From: lauren@CV.VORTEX.COM (Lauren Weinstein)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: TNT Letterboxed movies update
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Greetings.  A couple of additions to my earlier notice of letterboxed
movies on TNT.  First, as part of the "Our Favorite Movies" series,
TNT will air "2001: A Space Odyssey" on Nov. 19 at 8PM Eastern, followed
by  "Dr. Strangelove" at 11PM Eastern.  "Dr. Strangelove" may or may
not be letterboxed--I have conflicting information on that point,
though it looks like a good probability. "2001" will additionally air
letterboxed as part of "Letterbox Sunday" on Nov. 29.

Also, "The Time Machine" has been *replaced* by "Forbidden Planet" (1956)
in the letterbox lineup.  So letterboxed "Forbidden Planet" will run
on Nov. 26 at 8PM, and on Nov. 29 at 10AM.  Remember, all
times are Eastern.

Enjoy.

--Lauren--
Custom Viewer
(For info about electronic Custom Viewer TV Listing services,
please call 1-800-NOW-VIEW [1-800-669-8439].)
From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: S-Video monitor output on Denon AVR 1010
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:56:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: seqp4.1663
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <1992Nov9.175022.15678@nwra.com>, mark@nwra.com (Mark Baldwin) writes:
> Video gear such as my Sony KV32XBR10 monitor/receiver typically has
> both a composite and an S-video input. If both connections are made,
> the S-video overrides the composite. So, in a system with both
> composite and S-video sources, the only way to see the composite signal
> is to physically unplug the S-video cable from the monitor.

My Hitachi 31" does it slightly differently, and I suggest slightly better
than the Sony mentioned. It allows you to select any of 4 inputs (RF1, RF2,
composite, and S-video) separately. It makes no assumptions that the S-video
is the same as the composite.

> Ultimately, I think the best solution would be if the equipment
> manufacturers would include circuitry to detect automatically the
> presence of a video signal and select the source that has a signal.

My Hitachi can tell whether or not an S-video cable is plugged in (it
won't select S-video unless a cable is present, but there doesn't need to
be anything on the other end of the cable). This makes me believe that the
S-video standard shorts a couple pins in the cable so that equipment can
tell whether there is a cable or not. Either that, or the socket in the
TV detects the cable end being inserted). Does anyone know the details, and
whether the S-video standard provides a way to tell whether a signal is
present? If I'm right about a pin being shorted, AV receivers could use a
special S-video cable, and route the shorted pin through the receiver,
allowing the receiver to tell the attached monitor when the receiver
thinks it is driving an S-video output.

I suppose I'll have to get out a Ohm meter when I get home, and figure
out how the cable is wired...
-- 
                  THIS                  | Paul Cantrell "PC"
                  SPACE                 | cantrell@sequoia.com
              INTENTIONALLY             | DoD #1144
               LEFT BLANK               | HELO/ASEL/ZX10 Pilot
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D750/CLD-D701 Problems !
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:32:48 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I had to bring in my Pioneer 3090 on Saturday. The tray was getting
stuck at intermittent times, and the alpha-turn mechanism was making a
grinding noise when switching from side B->A. On top of that, the
reverse scan was shot...it would only scan back every 10 seconds or so.
The disk would play fine and then skip ahead or loop back. AND, there is
this strange 'whirring' noise coming from the front of the unit. It'll
start up for no reason and when it does, it'll do this:

WHIRR	picture goes out
(wait 2 seconds)
WHIRR	picture is fine
(wait 2 seconds)
......ad infinitim


I bought it in March. NOw, someone help me with THIS:

The warranty says that Pioneer will fix the unit if it was bought at an
Authorized Pioneer Dealer. Well, I really don't trust the people I
bought it from in terms of service so I took it to a nice place that
deals in Pioneers. The guy said that they might not get reimbursed from
Pioneer if the store I bought it from was not an Authorized Dealer. My
logic is: SO WHAT? It's still under its 1 year parts & labor warranty so
what does it matter where I got it from? It's not 'hot', there's a
distribution stamp on the side of it. Am I going to have to wind up
sending it to Pioneer? 

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
= WHAT is your name?............................Captain Jean-Luc Picard=
= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
=                        I.....I don't know AAAAAHHHHH!                =
========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: 6881300@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: CD-I to compete with LD?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:54:10 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
In article <1992Nov09.195442.13587@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (Wi
>>From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

>>As always the problem will be getting software to market, e.g. convincing
>>movie distributors to release in the CD-I format and getting retail stores
>>to sell or rent movies in CD-I format.  It has taken a long time and a lot
>>                     <stuff deleted>

>                      <stuff deleted>
>   Of course, being a PC/Mac affaciando makes me a biased observer
>but if you're going to layout $2-$3K for the Interactive box, what do you do
>when the kids are ready for the next step i.e., programming & developing
>their own stuff? Buy them a computer which has all the CD-I box had PLUS the
>tools to let their imaginations truly run unbound.

>Mark

Maybe I misunderstood your post, but I saw CD-I advertised "on sale"
at Macy's for $599.  Does anyone know how much the "movie upgrade"
option will cost?

No one seems to have said the obvious, so here goes.  LD is a passive
medium, you sit and watch.  CD-I is a different species of animal.
It allows interaction, sort of like a game machine.  The quality
of CD-I being lower than LD is not an issue for the mass market.
The average Jo(e) thinks her/his VHS format is just fine.  Mark's
comments about distribution are "right on" as far as CD-I and movies are
concerned.  The only way CD-I can triumph over LD is if CD-I wins
a price war.  Not likely, IMHO.

Cordially,                                      Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.
Roy Sette       rsette@lmsc.lockheed.com        P.O. Box 3504, B/182, O/82-10
                                                Sunnyvale CA 94088-3504

The text shown above is not guaranteed to be correct, nor does it reflect the
views of Lockheed Corp.
From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Philips 16:9 sets
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 01:37:35 EET
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

sss@castle.ed.ac.uk (S S Sturrock) writes:

> Just thought I would post to say that the Philips 16:9 sets are all
> multistandard, I have just bought a Pioneer CLD-1750 multistandard LD
> player which puts out PAL/NTSC 3.58/NTSC 4.43 and the TV works with the
> first two but not the third oddly enough, seems that if the set gets a 525
> line, 60Hz signal it assumes that it will be NTSC 3.58 thus you get a
> monochrome picture in NTSC 4.43, not that I am terribly bothered.  Oh
> yeah, by the way, the Pioneer appears to be quite a nice machine, will put
> it through its paces tonight when I get home.

You might be the right person to answer this question.  Since the new 16:9
Philips sets feature also a scan-doubler to go to 100Hz on PAL (which I hear
works well, and I did see it at the shop -- impressive), what does it do on
NTSC input?  Going to 120Hz would seem improbable, so I guess it'll drop
down to 60Hz?  I tried calling the Philips people here in Finland, and they
didn't have a clue (seems someone who *should* know is on vacation).

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