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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Installing 386BSD on a Gateway 2000 486DX50/2 EISA: still trying.
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:16:37 GMT

A week ago, I ran into problems installing 386BSD on an EISA machine
with an Ultrastor Ultra 24F SCSI host adaptor.  I gave it another try
today, and here's what I've got:

I set up the host adaptor so that the wd driver likes it.  I can mount
the 386BSD partition, write to it, and read from it.  But I can't boot
from the hard drive. 

I have tried the standard dist.fs and the cgd (?) one, and neither
seem to do the trick.  I suspect it is the boot block, because the
machine gets stuck in an infinite reboot loop without displaying anything
on the screen.  

I've looked in several places, but I haven't seen any other boot blocks.
Booting from floppy works fine and I will even settle for that if there
is a way to mount the hard drive as the root file system.  (I used to do
that with Linux, so there must be a way.)  Any help would be appreciated.

I also have a general 386BSD question.  Could someone post a list of
every "option" that we can use with our config files?  I believe I have
most of them, but I would like all.

I received mail from several people trying to get 386BSD running on this 
same type of system.  To them:  I haven't forgotten about you.  I have your 
addresses and will let you know when I get it running.


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992
From: clc30@ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Caho)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Tiny failure.. system reboots.
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:45:18 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I downloaded the dist.fs and used rawrite to floppy.  When I boot from
the floppy it reads from the floppy for a few seconds and then 
reboots the system.  No messages... No banner...  The system is a 
TI4000 laptop with 4meg ram and a 60 meg partition with 486sx.  I believe
the disk type is ide, but have not been able to find anything that 
says one way or another.   
 
I was able to install LINUX and it uses /dev/hdax for the driver.  I
would like to try BSD instead though.
  
Any ideas???????
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From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Subject: XFree386 and fonts [ugly] 
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:00:39 GMT


Is anyone observing this too: The fonts in the buttons and drop down menu
choices of xman and also the font you get when you type CONTROL+MIDDLEBUTTON
or CONTROL+LEFTBUTTON in an xterm are somewhat ugly. I.e. the horizontal
line of a lower case 'e' is so thin that it does not reach a 1 pixel width.

This applies also to other characters.

How come?

--
--Chris
Christoph P. U. Kukulies
kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
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From: rkb55989@dcl-nxt50 (Rafal Krzysztof Boni)
Subject: [386bsd/X] XDM with DES...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:54:24 GMT

Hey all..

	Yet another question... I have the X386/XS3 bin distribution, and
	definitely do not have room for X11R5 sources on my machine...

	So my question is this... 
		What are the mininal sources I need to recompile XDM
		with crypt support? What subset of X11R5 sources do I
		need, and what else do I have to do before I can make
		away happily?? Seeing as EXPORT.LCS.MIT.EDU has an
		un-packed R5 source tree, I can grab files off there...

		Alternately, is there anyone out there who has a working
		XDM with crypt installed that would want to put it up
		somewhere [discreetly] and let me know???

				Thanks once again,
						Rafal

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From: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Disklabeling a DOS formatted floppy
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:40:42 GMT

russo@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Thomas Russo) writes:

>No, I don't want to know how to low-level format a floppy -- I know I
>need to do that from DOS.

>What I WANT to do now is to make a filesystem on a floppy (either 5.25
>or 3.5in), just like the dist.fs and fixit.fs floppies have
>filesystems, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it.

# newfs device ploppy-type

example: in drive a: we have a 5inch 1.2 Mb disk, then:
	newfs /dev/fd0a floppy5

>-- 
>Thomas Russo			russo@nile.chem.columbia.edu
>Department of Chemistry and Center for Biomolecular Simulation
>Columbia University



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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Subject: Re: [XFree86] Problems with tvga9000 (also tvga8800)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:32:17 GMT
Keywords: X386

In article <1992Nov17.003551.6322@fees.vut.edu.au> yman@cabsav.vut.EDU.AU writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.144752.21612@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, andrick@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (Ulf Andrick [Biologie]) writes:
> ...... (deleted)
> |> 
> |> Here is (from memory) what I use in Xconfig:
> |> 
> |> vga256
> |>   chipset "tvga8900"
> |>   clocks 25 28 45 36 .....
> |>   videoram 512
> |>   modes "800x600" "640x480"
> |> 
> |>   viewport 0 0
> |> 
> |> nd the VESA dot clocks for 800x600 36 MHz.
> |> 
> |> Any help? Any other experiences with the mentioned graphics
> |> adaptor? Is tvga9000 not compatible to tvga8900C?
> |> 
> |> --
> |> Ulf R. Andrick                                andrick@rhrk.uni-kl.de
> |> FB Biologie - Tierphysiologie
> |> Universitaet                             Was du nicht selber weiszt, 
> |> D-W 6750 Kaiserslautern       das muszt du dir erklaeren (Tegtmeier)
> 
> I have tried the same configuration above on my tvga8800 card. All I got is 
> card "not recognised" (This is my own words). Is there any one working on 
> a driver for this older Trident card?  Any help will be greatly 
> appreciated. Thank you in advance.
> -- 
> Yauman NG                               E-mail: yman@cabsav.vut.edu.au
> Dept of Electrical Engineering, FIT     Tel: +61 3 688-4724
> Victoria University of Technology,      Australia  3011

tvga8800 will not likely ever be supported in XFree86.  The 8800 only
supports a single 128k bank to the SVGA frame buffer.  This is counter
to the design of the frame-buffer code.  The only Trident chipset supported
by the color XFree86 server is the tvga8900C.  The 8900B is NOT supported,
nor is the 9000.  Anyone who wants to is free to get the tech reference
manuals and try to make it work.  Good luck; it's not likely.

The Trident chips are incredibly slow.  A TVGA8900C runs barely half
as fast as my ET4000 board, in the same machine.  Get an ET4000-based
board, or use the monochrome server.

--
David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>  (908) 957-5871
AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 4B-421, Middletown, NJ  07748

"The meaning of life?  That's simple.  Try to be happy, try not to hurt
 other people, and hope to fall in love."  -- Mallory Keaton
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: mail bug-or-feature question
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:09:23 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


I'm using the Net-2 version of ucbmail on a SunOS4.1.1 system.
If you're in the middle of mail and do a shell escape - the particular
case is !fgrep btfsplk /etc/motd    or in other words some string that
does not occur in the file, then mail says
    Fatal error in process.

which is not true - fgrep behaved as it's supposed to.

So I'm wondering if pure Net-2-derived systems work this way too, and
if it's a bug or a dubious feature.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
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From: paul8@odie.cs.mun.ca (Paul Manuel)
Subject: [386BSD] Infinite reboot with partitioned IDE drive
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:15:54 GMT


Problem:	Machine goes into an infinite reboot when running 
		386BSD with the disk having BSD and MSDOS partitions.

Machine Specs:	Processor: 486DX/33Mhz
		RAM:       8MB
		Cache:     128K
		Disk:      100MB Kalok KL3100
		Chip Set:  UMC (UM82C480)
		VGA Card:  Cardinal VGA 16bit, 1MB

Success:	I've had success getting 386bsd running using the Kalok
		drive if I use the entire volume for BSD but I have to
		keep a msdoG partition around.

		I've had success running 386bsd using a Rodime RO3259AP 
		200MB disk with DOS and BSD partitions (I borrowed it from
		another machine to see if it might be the controller).

		If anybody else has had the same problem and has found
		a solution PLEASE email me with the solution.

		I have read the bug report and the bug is #1 on the list
		and the comment with the report is that there is/was a
		lot of discussion on ways around the problem.

		Is this bug fixed with some patch, if so which one. Any
		help is much appreciated.

				Thanks,
				paul8@cs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: 928 chipset?  was Re: What is the best VGA card for 386BSD???
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:35:54 GMT

In article <D87-MAL.92Nov21180836@oddjob.nada.kth.se> d87-mal@oddjob.nada.kth.se (Mats Lfkvist) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.181942.15615@netcom.com> kwan@netcom.com (Kwan-Seng Low) writes:
>
>   Would be interesting if someone could run bench mark on the VL version versus
>   ISA version of the 801 to see VL really outperform the ISA...
>
>Is the server ready to make full use of a 32-bit path to the graphics card?
>If not (which I think is the case), there is potential for another factor two
>speed increase...
>      _
>Mats Lofkvist
>d87-mal@nada.kth.se

The XS3-0.2a is ready to make use of the 32-bit path to the graphics card.

Amancio Hasty


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From: hado@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ha Do)
Subject: Re: 386bsd CD-ROM Survey   ---    Please read & respond
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:03:34 GMT



I am interested in buying the 386BSD CDDOM, sunrise

Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Making a buildable kernel source tree
Reply-To: Rich@rice.edu
Organization: Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Rice
	University
	<PC123.92Nov20200511@apus.cus.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:44:53 GMT

In article <PC123.92Nov20200511@apus.cus.cam.ac.uk> pc123@cus.cam.ac.uk (Pete Chown) writes:
   I am having some difficulty getting my kernel sources into a state
   where I can rebuild the kernel.  I installed the source distribution
   as normal, and applied the official patches.  Then I tried to install
   the patches that came with the X distribution, but they didn't work -
   some already seemed to be applied while others just failed.  Does
   anyone have any suggestions on this?  Do you, for example, have to
   apply the X patches to a completely clean kernel?

This has become a frequently asked question, so it deserves posting.

The XFree86 kernel patches were contribued to the patchkit.  Since the
XFree86 and the patch kit have identcal patches for X, use one or the
other not both.  If you apply patches 28-31, don't apply the XFree86
kernel patches.

However you do need to add
        options XSERVER,UCONSOLE
to your kernel configuration file.  Otherwise the X support is
#ifdefed out.

BTW, although we donated the patches, the attribution failed to make
it in.  The authors are:

patch00028 Pace Willisson (pace@blitz.com)
patch00029 David Dawes (dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU)
patch00030 Pace Willisson (pace@blitz.com)
patch00031 Pace Willisson (pace@blitz.com)

Rich
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386BSD] CDROM ioctl's + xcdplayer, anyone?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:55:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.BxvDov.8oy
Distribution: comp
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

In article <JKH.92Nov17095130@esel.lotus.com> jkh@esel.lotus.com (Jordan K Hubbard) writes:
>I got a tip on someone in Sweden having done this, but it's unclear
>as to whether he did the CD drive control ioctl()'s for Julian's
>SCSI driver, or whether he did the xcdplayer port to it.  In either
>case, I'd love to have both of them!

	I don't know if he did, or if he didn't, but one thing that I do know
for sure is that nearly every cdrom drive on the market today uses a
proprietary command set to activate the audio functions, and each manufacturer
uses something different.  There is a set of commands defined in the scsi-2
standard, but I only know of one drive that makes use of it.  The upshot is
that if Julian did include ioctl functions for the xcdplayer, they will most
likely only work for one specific make of drive.

-Eric
-- 
Eric Youngdale
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney)
Subject: NFS permission problems
Organization: None
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:41:41 GMT


Scenario: two machines running 386BSD, patchkit applied:

When a file system is NFS mounted across the network, files can
be read ONLY if the person owns the remote file. The files can
be mode 666, but still not readable unless they own them.

Is this the intended behavior, or is something awry?
--
Greg Hackney
hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us
From: /S=BLANSFIE/OU=EM-01/O=CCMGW/PRMD=GOV+USDOE.G02/ADMD=ATTMAIL/C=US/@mailgw.er.doe.gov
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386BSD - Extraction problems.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:01:37 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      When I first install the system, the /tmp directory contains the file
      extract and I can use it.  I know /tmp gets wiped after a reboot so I
      moved the file into /bin and then tried to use it on one of the
      distributions and got errors.  The errors were:
     
              File etc01.00 - missing
              File etc01.01 - missing
              File etc01.02 - missing
              ...
     
      extract:  Could not complete extraction process blah, blah...
     
      What is with this thing?  Any help appreciated.
     
      Michael G. Blansfield
      (301) 427-8474
      blansfie@mailgw.er.doe.gov
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Subject: Sources size question
From: chanson@mtlookitthat.chi.il.us (Chris Hanson)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 14:50:21 CDT
X-Mailer: Fernmail 1.1 (unregistered, shareware fee not paid)

OK, Berserkely-heads, I've got a question for y'all.  I was wondering
just how large the Net/2 distribution is, since I'd like to obtain it
before it gets gobbled by the Death Star.  (I'm not saying what I'll do
with it afterwards ;-).  Anyway, I specifically want to know how large,
packed and unpacked, the KERNEL sources themselves are.  I can use GNU
for most of the utilities, etc. but what I really want is the kernel.
I've got a Mac IIci at home, and I'm running minix for unix-ness, but
I'd like to try porting the hp300 stuff to that platform.  I just don't
know how much disk space I'll need for the port.

Thanx for your help, and for continuing to keep BSD alive!

TTFN,
Chris
---
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From: sxx4519@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.X. Xue)
Subject: Starter needs help!
Originator: sxx4519@ultb
Reply-To: sxx4519@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:20:39 GMT


I recently installed a copy XFree86 on my newly installed 386BSD. I am
experiencing many problems. Hope experts out there would help me out.

Hardware:
   40 MHz 386DX
   AMI BOIS 7/7/91
   No math coprocessor
   8 meg ram
   200 meg and 40 meg IDE drives
   Fahrenheit 1280 vedio card
   Mousesystems serial mouse (com1)

OS:
   386BSD binary distribution from agate.berkeley.edu
   No source distribution, no etc dirstribution
   Updated kernel for XFree86
   XFree86 bininary distribution from the same ftp host
   X server is set to X386mono (trying to start generic VGA mode)

Problems:
   Printer driver missing (/dev/lp)
   C compiler does not work with floating point numbers
       -- all numbers are rounded off to intgers
   Mtools does not work,
       message-- init: open: No such a file or dirctory
   X server will not start,
       message-- Fatal I/O error 32. Broken pipe on X server...


Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:9012 alt.sources:2543
From: paulp@uts.amdahl.com (Paul Popelka)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,alt.sources
Subject: [386bsd] mountable DOS filesystem code, Part 5/5
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:29:10 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Ok, you got it all.

Paul
Xref: sparky comp.unix.bsd:9005 alt.sources:2541
From: cc465@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven M Ratliff)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Infinite reboot with partitioned IDE drive
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:43:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc465@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven M Ratliff)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, paul8@odie.cs.mun.ca (Paul Manuel) says:

>
>Problem:	Machine goes into an infinite reboot when running 
>		386BSD with the disk having BSD and MSDOS partitions.
>
>Machine Specs:	Processor: 486DX/33Mhz
>		RAM:       8MB
>		Cache:     128K
>		Disk:      100MB Kalok KL3100
>		Chip Set:  UMC (UM82C480)
>		VGA Card:  Cardinal VGA 16bit, 1MB
>
>Success:	I've had success getting 386bsd running using the Kalok
>		drive if I use the entire volume for BSD but I have to
>		keep a msdos partition>

     I have the same problem with a 33 Mhz 386DX 4MB RAM 128K cache and 
a Connor Peripherals cp30104 120MB IDE drive. Both the stock Dist.fs and the
CGD patched Dist.fs go into the infinite hard reboot cycle when partitioned
with Dos and both work just fine if installed on the entire volume. When they
are partioned with DOS the banner comes up and then the kernel panics.  Un-
fortunately it reboots far to fast to be able to read the diagnostic messages.
The best I could make out was a kernel panic trap and then something about
dumping RAM to disk.
     The install does put all the files out there and wd0a can be mounted
from the fixit or dist floppy on /mnt and files can be manipulated on the 
drive.  Is there a way to boot from a floppy and then mount wd0a on /?  
I can live with this as a temporary workaround.
-- 
cc465@cleveland.freenet.edu    <Steve Ratliff>
From: cyber@ecst.csuchico.edu (Erik Berls)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: [386BSD] Known working MotherBoards?
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:30:19 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

Could someone either post or mail me a list of motherboards (486) that
are know to work with 386BSD?

brandnames are fine, comments if you wish...

if there is no list, mailing me the types you know to work will get me
to post a list [#-)

thanks,
-=erik.
From: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386bsd] Install source?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:42:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ghost.1992Nov22.174250.25812
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University

glenc@netcom.com (Glen Collins) writes:

>Hello!

>	I am still  having problems with the install of 386bsd. I have
>think I have traced it down to either the Advanced chipset setup or it
>will not work with the board I have. Does anyone have the source to
>the istall program? I would like to take a look at it. I would like to
>get bsd runing on my system, and I just can't beleive that the system
>is so damn unstable that i'm having probelms....

>my system:
>	    80386 33/40
>	    AMI bios/ OPTI chipset

>Does anyuone have this board that is running 386BSD? And if so, did you have
>any problems. Please mail me the source or tell me an FTP site it's avaliable from

>Thanks!  Glen Collins    (glenc@netcom.com)

I'm having really big problems installing 386bsd on my machine:
	80486 50
	AMI bios / OPTI chipset

I can install binaries and source.
I can install patches.
I can't rebuild the kernel, due to system hanging on symbols rearrange.
I even tried to:
	- config STRIDER
	- shutdown and reboot
	- make depend
	- shutdown and reboot
	- make
	- hang and reboot
	- rm 386bsd orig.386bsd
	- make
to see if hanging was caused by the large amount of memory (16 Mb),
but it still doesn't work !!!!
If I install orig.386bsd in /386bsd the system will not boot anymore
(infinite loop), and note i recompiled the kernel last week and worked
fine. The i reinstalled anything from start, I installed patches on
the new, virgin, system, and things don't work anymore !!!
I doubt it is NOT any hardware failure.

Any hints ??

Bye all


------------------------------------------ Piero Serini -----------------
                               E-mail: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it   
Piero Serini	               or: piero@strider.st.dsi.unimi.it
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From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Subject: Re: ->386bsd! man-pages.Z ?
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:06:41 GMT

In <1992Nov11.053352.29060@utkux1.utk.edu> frank@martha.utcc.utk.edu (frank segner (phrank)) writes:
>does someone have an idea where to find a decent replacement for the 
>original man?

Get Tom Christiansen's perl rewrite of man. ftp to convex.com.

-- 
				Christoph Badura  ---  bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org

AIX is a better... is a better...  is a better... OpenSystem.
					IBM Rep at GUUG Symposium '92
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