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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: golden retrievers
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:59:16 GMT
Distribution: na

In <1993Jan6.152324.12354@mips2.ma30.bull.com> dorff@granite.ma30.bull.com (Laurie A. Dorff) writes:

>Third, a friend is going to help me build a dog house for this
>dog.  We are working on the dimensions and shape.  Any suggestions
>for dog houses which keep in heat well in the winter and are
>less drafty?  The dog (male) will eventually be about 75 - 85
>pounds and about 2 feet high at the withers (shoulders).

Goldens are very people oriented, and you may have problems if you
banish him outside all the time.  Just a cautionary note: if you plan
on leaving him outside when you're at work and bringing him inside
when you're home, that would be fine.  Comments: be sure the dog house
isn't located such that the dog could get on top of it and then jump
over the fence.  Also, make the roof flat (slightly sloped for
drainage) so that he can sleep on it in the summer.  Many dogs like to
do this.

>Fourth, any suggestions for leashes that work well when jogging
>with a dog?  Some of the roads near my house are very quiet with
>not much traffic.  I also have access to miles of paths through
>the woods.  But a few of the roads are more trafficky and will
>require a shorter leash.

Flexi-leads sound like what you want.  This is a retractable leash
that can be set to contract/expand as the dog moves around or at a
particular length.  Just be careful about tangling up in it -- they
can rope-burn like crazy.

By the way, you will have to wait a while before your puppy can go
jogging with you.  Don't start taking him along until he's at least 8
months old, and don't do any hard-core long distance jogging until
he's a year old.  You want all those delicate joints and ligaments to
be fully grown.  When you start him, go easy and work him up to longer
distances (just like you did when you started jogging).  Check the
pads of his feet after each jogging jaunt to make sure he's taking it
OK.  If you start him up right, the pads will thicken and toughen in
time -- push it too hard and they'll become tender and possibly
cracked.

>Fifth, I live about 1/2 mile from a resevoir, where dogs and
>swimming are allowed :).  Will frequent swimming harm the
>dog or his coat in any way?

Nah.  You might groom him before he goes swimming to minimize tangles.
But this will hurt his coat far less than bathing (with soap, etc) will.

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore

Terrell's Chocolate Deduction--Hershe (Labrador Retriever)

The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all ten parts -- is available via ftp to
pit-manager.mit.edu under pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/*.  There
is a mail server, email me for details.

In loving memory of Betsy: 4-10-92 to 8-19-92...
From: mayor@virga.larc.nasa.gov (Shalini Mayor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Weird habits
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:26:20 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
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In article <C0CHIE.3K3@hsi.com>, hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht) writes:
|> 
|> Hi,
|> Our 8 month old Boxer has always loved to walk around our bed touching the
|> bed ruffle whenever he first wakes up or comes out of his cage.  It's quite
|> amusing actually but we haven't been able to figure out why he does it.  I
|> guess it just feels good to rub his back on the nice soft ruffles.  He also
|> loves to roll around on the floor "scratching" his back after he eats.  He
|> seems very happy when doing both of these weird habits and I was wondering
|> if anyone else's dog does these things or something else equally bizarre.
|> Walking around the 3 sides of the bed though to wake up sure does take the
|> cake for orginality :-)
|> 
|> Alice
|> 

My golden Minnie does the same thing!! I didn't think I would find any other
dog with the same *weird* habit! And yes, she looks like she is beaming floppy
ear to ear when she decides to wipe her face on our carpet after eating food
and then flips on her back (hitting the wall at times) and wiggles all over the 
floor!! She seems to be having such a good time I don't have the heart to stop her. I think she does that 'cause she loves a good scratch on the back! (Though
that does not explain why she wants to walk along the bed touching the ruffles -
being a big dog (66 lbs) it gives our bed a good shake first thing in the morning!)

Shalini
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bill@ssr.hp.com (Bill Chidester)
Subject: Re: Bouvier Breeders
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:58:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Orlando Fl.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.2]

Minde Gibson (gibson@watson.bms.com) wrote:
: A friend of mine is interested in getting a Bouvier(Sp?) as a pet.
: Would anyone know where there are reputable breeders for this type of dog
: in the NY, NJ, PA or CT area?


:                         Thanks in Advance

:                         Minde & Jeannine 

    Most of the top Bouviers are from lines out of the Du Clos des Cerebes
    Kennel which is located in Collegeville, Pa.  The owner is a lady named 
    Edmee Bowles.  I hope she's still around -- we had a pup from one of
    her bitches (Zoe) and it was the best dog I've ever owned. 

-------------------------------
Bill Chidester
HP Orlando
bill@a3177092.ssr.hp.com
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Golden Retrievers - forgot!
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:00:31 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Don't forget that at a young age, the dog will do better with positive 
reinforcement.  Just like humans, they respond better to love.

TiM
From: jk13+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joanne M. Karohl)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: New Proposed Standard for Labradors
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:01:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfIjZMe00WBMM2uJ1M
	<16B5379AD.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>
Organization: Biological Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Chris writes:

>I already sent mail to Liza, but what do the rest of you feel:  should
>this discussion be in private email, or here on rpd?

Personally, I would be very interested in this discussion.  Joanne
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: philg@bozo.net.com (Phil Geller)
Subject: Dog Barfing in the Morning
Keywords: dobie, illness sick 
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:58:18 GMT

My 6 year old dobie has been having some problems first thing
in the morning.  She goes out, nibbles on some greens, and 
upchucks.  After that she is fine.  This doesn't happen
every day, but often enough to make me wonder (about 4 times
during the last month).  I'd call it morning sickness, but
she has been spayed.  Any ideas?  We remember our vet telling
us something about stomach problems in larger dogs, so we
avoid feeding her right after exercise.  We always wait 20 minutes.
Does this sound like a problem, or is she just being a dog?

-- 
Phil Geller				Email: philg@net.com
Network Equipment Technologies 		Phone: (415) 780-4363
800 Saginaw Drive 			Fax:   (415) 780-5001
Redwood City, CA 94063
From: janicki@gblaut.enet.dec.com (Victoria Janicki)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: German Shepherd Puppies For Sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: janicki@tuxedo.enet.dec.com
Followup-To: janicki@tuxedo.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton,MA



Mack-Zwinger German Shepherds announces a repeat breeding out of:


91 Canadian Siegerin, V1 Ozzie von Helle-Schuster SchH3,FH,KKLI OFA and

88 Vice-Bundesseiger, V1 Cliff von Huhnegrab SchH3,IP3,FH,KKLI "a".  

Both dogs have excellent working ability and conformations. Ozzie 
is 7x SchHIII, a USA National Competitor and earned her latest SchHIII 
at 7.5yrs with a 286 HIT! Ozzie is also the 1988/1991 New England Landsgruppen
Siegerin. She has earned a V score in every phase.

Cliff has not only competed in the Bundesieger 4 times, but he has V-rated
at the Sieger show.  

Ozzie currently has progeny working in Schutzhund, AKC obedience and tracking, garnering titles in all areas as well as herding instinct certifications.  
She has produced 90% clear hips.  Pups from the 1st breeding are showing excellent promise in Schutzhund and conformation.  

Litter is due Jan 12th and will be USA registered and fully guaranteed to serious working homes.
 
Karen MacIntyre, 603-673-4583 (NH)
Mack-Zwinger Shepherds

[Editorial note]
Karen is one of the few breeders I recommend without reservation.
She strives to breed a dog that can work because it has the drives and
the body to sustain it. All three of our dogs are from Karen.


Victoria Janicki
Digital Equipment Corporation
Littleton,MA

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From: charpel@cyclone.mitre.org (Craig A. Harpel (PSI) X7638)
Subject: Invisible fence and other questions
Originator: charpel@cyclone
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:11:21 GMT


I am new to this group, so please bear with me if my questions are
FAQs.

I recently took in a "lost" dog that is mostly Lab.  "Shadow" is a
very friendly dog, and I've grown to like him a lot in the few days
I've had him, and I would like to keep him, but I have a few problems
that I need to resolve (I took him in because people on the street
were going to call the pound to pick him up - I couldn't let that happen,
so I decided to take him in, get his shots at the vet's, etc., and try
to find a new owner for him myself):

1.  I already have a 9 year old min. dachshund (Max) who is very territorial,
    despite being neutered.  I have not gotten Shadow neutered yet because
    I don't want to spend the additional money if I'm going to find him
    a new home (I've already spent over $100 on the shots, etc.).  I'm
    uncertain what these two dogs are going to do when my back is turned.
    Max keeps trying to "mount" Shadow, but Shadow seems to take it in
    stride.  The few times in the past that I've had Max around other dogs
    inside a house, there have been, let's say, "contests", to see who can
    mark their territory the most.  Disastrous.  But so far, that hasn't
    happened in the case of Shadow and Max.  My bottomline question is,
    if they get along together after a week or two, am I "home free", or
    are they going to lull me into a false sense of security and then
    start the contest when I'm not expecting it?  Any comments would be
    appreciated; I've never owned two dogs at once before.

2.  Should I get Shadow neutered if I keep him?  My reluctance is that
    I was promised all sorts of wonderful things when I got Max done
    ("Oh, he'll be less territorial, more docile, won't "pump" legs,
     won't mark his territory in the house, etc, etc.").  He became MORE
    aggressive and MORE territorial AFTER he was neutered!  Is this a failure
    on my part, or was I sold a bill of goods about neutering?

3.  Shadow is definitely a dog who prefers (and deserves) being off leash.
    I do NOT want a fenced yard.  Is the "invisible fence" worth the
    investment?  Or should I try training him on a long lead?  The trouble
    is, I'm not home during the day, and my wife is afraid to let him off
    leash.  Is the invisible fence affordable?  Is it safe for the dog?

Please e-mail responses to charpel@mitre.org.
Thanks in advance.

Craig
  
-- 


============================================================================
Craig Harpel                                charpel@mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: wendy@sq.sq.com (Wendy Harrison)
Subject: Re: Dogs & Chromium (was Re: Large Breeds Showing Age)
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:59:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.154736.8460@cas.org> sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine) writes:
>
>	It is common for dogs noses to turn from black to brown or from brown
>to pinkish in the wintertime. Usually, this doesn't happen during their first
>winter (when they are still a puppy), but can be noticed during their second
>winter. For breeds (like goldens) which are supposed to have black pigmentation,

With northern breeds (like my Malamute), this is called "Snow Nose".
I can only speculate about the cause, but I didn't know it was more
general.  It is so common with Malamutes that I doubt it would be
a fault in the ring.  My girl's nose turns a kind of liverish grey
colour, but her uncle's nose turns pink.
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: German Shepherds for Adoption
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:19:25 GMT
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

Dag Bruck writes:
> As far as I can tell from r.p.d postings, many shelters only sell dogs
> on a spay/neuter contract (or perform operation themselves).

That's right.

> Is it also common that shelters only sell dogs to buyers that promise
> to take the dog to obedience or puppy class?
> Can such a promise be part of the contract?

No.  Shelters often encourage adopters to train the dog, and to work
with a trainer.  But I've never heard of putting it into the contract.
It's an interesting idea, though.

> What percentage of the dogs at your shelter do you think arrived for
> valid reasons, such as, the ones you listed?

About half.  Wish I could be more precise, but then I would also like
to get numbers from other shelters, too.  Perhaps someone out there
has a breakdown?

Of course, some dogs never make it as far as the shelter.  We're not
going to get an accurate breakdown for abandoned dogs.

-- Jon
--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Date: Sat,  2 Jan 93 00:44:05 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: I'm perplexed
Comment-To: trimpe_b@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/703 701
X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

  My theory is that your dog was just being a dog.  In the wild, dogs
shred nesting material to provide the loft to make the material
effecive bedding.
  I think nestbuilding is purely instinctive.  There are no poofy
polyfill comforters in the wild.  For that matter, humans have been
around a lot longer than cloth.  Not too many hundreds of years ago,
your ancestors and mine were also shredding nesting material to make
warm beds.
  
--- FMail 0.92
 * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held)
Subject: Re: Weird habits
Reply-To: z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:27:22 GMT

My black lab x has done this since she was a pup.  
Add the tail thumping against the side of the bed
and you cann't sleep through that wake up call.
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Theresa A. Held         
              A dog - A heart beat at my feet - Edith Wharton 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Subject: Re: Bad Beagle Problems
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:34:38 GMT

>In article <92365.091503IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>, IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>|> 
>|> She prefers not to listen to our commands.  She will go out into the back
>|> yard at 10pm and bark for 10 minutes straight and will ignore our commands
>|> unless we insert the "t" word (treat).  There are many, many other instances
>|> and examples I could write...but I don't want to write too much!  So,
>|> if anyone has any suggestions as to what to do...please tell me!!!!
>
When I had that problem with foster dogs what I find that worked well
was to let the dog out on a lead for a number of times. When the dog
started to bark I called him in "come", when he wouldn't come I would
pull on the leash and praise him as he came to me (whether he came on
his own or not). After a few days when the dog came reliably, I would
try it without a lead if he didn't come I would go get him and 
back on the lead for a few more days.

I find that it was easier on me. The dog get to earn his freedom,
all the dogs I took care of prefer being off lead in the fenced backyard
specially when my own dog was there and free to run.

-- 
Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 
3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca	
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: when to switch to adult food
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:44:51 GMT

Our Weimaraner is now 1 year old (January 3 - his party was very nice,
and the chocolate cake and frosty paws were very appreciated).  His
size and weight are pretty stabilized, and he's now 75 pounds and
looks great (the breed standard is 60-80).  We've been feeding him
IAMS Puppy food.  Is it time to switch him to adult food?

Barry
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:40:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Getting a dog (A sad story)
Comment-To: elizabeth_finlayson@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/703 701
X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

  I have found that it is not uncommon among some animal lovers to
have far more compassion for a dog than for well meaning people. Your
friends sound like real nice people.  It certainly wasn't Their fault
that they have been victimized repeatedly by robbers.
  The that particular animal rescue league to stuff it.  Go out and
buy a paper.  There are Plenty of ads for Labrador Retrievers who need
loving homes.
--- FMail 0.92
 * Origin: Hillcrest Community BBS of San Diego..619-291-0544 HST (1:202/703)
From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Need Thoughts on getting second dog
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:40:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead) says:

>Carol S. was asking about getting a second dog, and I am very interested
>in people's experiences on this subject.  Often people come into our
>shelter looking for a second dog.  I'd like to advise them well.
>
>My own impressions from talking to people is that two dogs are a little
>more work than one dog, unless the dogs require a lot of grooming.
>I think that two dogs keep each other from being bored, but can never
>replace the human influence.  Dogs in multiple dog homes are not as
>jealous when a baby comes into the picture; the dogs have their own
>mini-society. 

The thing that I think is most important here is that you make sure that
the dogs' pack does not exclude you.  You need to remain top dog.  I have
had a lot of students tell me that their 2d, 3rd, *th dog and the other
dogs ignore the owner in favor of each other.  Whenever I have had multiple
dogs, I always make time for each dog to have individual training with me
to build the bond and teach the ovedience and also do group exercises with
all of the dogs -- sits and downs -- to maintain order.


 Two dogs keep each other more active, especially when
>young.  And you can usually tell if two dogs are going to work out
>in about two weeks time.  I've had many people bring their dogs in to
>meet prospective second dogs.  It's my impression that this meeting 
>isn't as important as matching the dogs' personalities. 

I think that to stack the deck in your favor when adding the second dog it
is wiser to add a dog of the opposite sex from the first dog.  Same sex
companions can work out if you are committed to making it work but it is
much easier for a dog and bitch to live together happily than for dog-dog
and bitch-bitch pairings.  I have done all three and the current dog-bitch
pairing is the easiest I have had.

An overly 
>aggressive with a very timid dog doesn't work well.  And two very
>aggressive dogs could be asking for trouble.  Beyond that, it's best
>to let the dogs work out their own hierarchy.  More than one real (blood-
>drawing) fight in the first week, and I'd start to think about returning
>the dog.  But I really gravitate toward less aggressive dogs.  It
>certainly helps if both dogs have experienced multiple dog homes before,
>or are young enough (under a 18 months?) to adapt.
>
>Would anyone like to set me straight on any of these notions?  Anecdotal
>responses are great with me.
>
I agree with you so what else can I say!  :-)


>
>-- 
>                              O             betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu
>_          __                  \            
>  \      /    \       -- >      O           E. C. Weatherhead
>   \ __ /      \ __ /          /            5734 S. Ellis  Chicago, 60637
>

Gail Brookhart
ce293@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: Need Snow Booties For Paws
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:09:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.162521.383@news.uwyo.edu> rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
>I've an Australian sheperd that's in need of some foot gear for snow
>(booties or the like). He gets snow buildup in his paws, etc. 
>Pointers, if you would, to sources for booties (either patterns or 
>completed products). 
>
>Altho I intend to hit up our news stand to see what the dog oriented 
>mags have in their ads, I figure people here would have better 
>information as to what worked best and what didn't.
>
>My dog and I offer many thanks in advance!
>
>+---------+    Richard Travsky           RTRAVSKY @ UWYO . EDU
>|         |    Division  of  Information  Technology
>|     U W |    University of Wyoming   (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668
>|      *  |    "Wyoming is the capital of Denver." - a tourist
>+---------+    "One of those square states." - another tourist



There are many places to get booties.  I like the ones from Black Ice.
Their address is provided below.  If you want additional addresses,
e-mail me.  I can send you a screen full of 'em.

Black Ice/Bedford Farms
11225 Country Rd. 20
Delano, MN 55328
(612) 955-2505

They sell standard cordura booties, as well as some polarplus lined
ones that are quite nice.

Patterns for booties can be found in the books:

Levorsen, Bella, ed.  _Mush!  A Beginner's Manual of Sled Dog
Training_.  Sierra Nevada Dog Drivers, Inc.  Arner Publications, 1976.
ISBN 0-914124-06-4.

Collins, Miki and Julie.  _Dog Driver.  A Guide for the Serious
Musher_.  Alpine Publications, 1991.  ISBN 0-931866-48-0.

There are other books that have patterns in them as well.  They are actually quite
simple to make.  If you have more questions or would like more detail,
please feel free to e-mail me.

-- 
============================================================
Stephen R. Lee                 | 
OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.