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From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Re: x3270 under OpenWin
Originator: marc@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:43:53 CDT


In article <9208191922.AA19639@dedekind.math.luc.edu>, laufer@math.luc.EDU (Konstantin Laufer) writes:
> Has anyone gotten x3270 to use the font that comes with it (3270.snf)
> under OpenWin 3.0?  Does 3270.snf need to be converted to some OW
> font?  Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> -Konstantin [laufer@math.luc.edu]

You need to use "convertfont" to build an OpenWin .fb file from the
distributed .bdf/.snf font.

[M][a][r][c]
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Help: novice trying to understand "openwin" script
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:04:58 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I was wondering:

  I was trying to use the openwin script as a pattern for a script to use
for tektronix xp27 and xp330, pc's logging to a sun sparc fileserver via
telnet to run openwindows. There are several things I don't understand the
function of:

  1.) there a routine in openwin that checks something about frame bufferes
or is it base frams (I can't remember). Anyway, just how does this routine
work? and is it necessary or desirable to include this in a c-shell script
that I would be using for the above-desribed purpose?
Currently, I am using s much simpler script that is patterned after .xinitrc
which basically j ust calculates the DISPLAY variable does all the other
stuff .xinitrc does. This works fine. However, once in a while, openwin-init
seems to fail to create on or more windows, complaining about child processes
die-ing and something about base frame buffers---resetting the tek x servers,
OR using this new script patterened after "openwin", with that "buffer" routine
OR

      

SEEMS to take care of this problem. Resetting the TEK server certainly does,
whether the "buffer" routine does also, I don't know. Perhaps one of you
guys can tell me. 

    2.) AUTHorization ROUTINE: I don't quite know if this is of any use for
the above-described situation, since all tek,pc users would be logging in
the

to the sun sparc file servers, it would seem that this routine would not
prevent them from messing with each other's tek/pc screens. I tried to use
thi

routine to prevent other users logged in to the server from other Tek's from

sending , say, displays to others logged in to the server on other teks,--
no good, they are still able to mess each other's screens.

which lead me to another question: IS IT POSSIBLE TO RESTRICT SENDING DISPLAYS
TO TO OTHER TEK TERMINALS IN THIS SITUATION at all??? It seems to work if
the other user is on a sun work station, ie, he can't send displays to the
teks with this authorization routine in force. (??)




   
      3.) THE NEWSSERVER routine. I can get the NEWSPORT/NEWSSERVER variables
defined ok in the script, but I don't know what to do with it.

The DEMO/TUTORIAL BUTTONS IN the openwindows workspace menu don't work.
The demo complains it can't connect to the newsserver. Apparently "xinit"
starts up the newsserver. I don't know how this is done since xnit is a complied
routine.  I run olwm, openwin-sys, openwin-init directly in the script.

Should I instead invoke "xnews" (or whatever it is that xinit runs) directly
instead of running olwm, openwin-init,openwin-sys separately in the script??

(remember, I'm on a TEk xp27/xp330/pc logged-in via telnet when I'm doing this)

oh, I'm running openwindows 2.0, but will be going to version 3 later.
the server is running sun 4.1.1.

thanks for aswering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
.
 
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Re: olvwm 3.2 - some L-keys and F-keys slowed down
Originator: marc@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:30:53 CDT


To avoid this sluggish behaviour with the various function keys, set the
following resource:

    OpenWindows.VirtualReRead:      False

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]
From: adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Posting client events
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:30:18 GMT
Reply-To: adc@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University


Does anyone have, or know where I can get, examples of posting and handling
client events?



---
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Computer Laboratory			phone:     (517) 353-3027
Michigan State University		fax:       (517) 353-9847
514 Computer Center			bitnet:    CABRERA@MSU
East Lansing, MI 48824
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: devguide thought...
Organization: Solbourne, User Interface Group
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:57:53 GMT

In article <7klfa25@openlook.Unify.Com>, fgreco@shearson.com (Frank
Greco) says: 
>Now take Devguide and make *it* use this mechanism.  This could
>facilitate dynamically loading your own objects into the oh-so-static
>devguide.

uib from Solbourne (and others) already does this.  uib allows you to
replace a dummy shared library with one of your own containing new
objects.  These objects can be used to build applications using uib.
uib is built on top of OI and uses a wcl-like resource file to
accomplish all of this.  OI is a C++ toolkit that supports both OPEN
LOOK and Motif interaction models.

Warner



-- 
Warner Losh		imp@Solbourne.COM
imp@Solbourne.COM: "I should be OK, I'm basically doing the speed limit"
dworkin@rootgroup.com: "That's why BASIC is so slow.  It has a speed limit"
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: walsky@wizard.asel.udel.edu (Ted Walsky)
Subject: Re: Errors with Xview connecting to Open Windows 3
Summary: Many applications in .openwin-init fail to start up correctly 
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:47:14 GMT

I have been wrestling with this problem for quite some time now and am
getting very frustrated and angry. I am using OW3 on an SS2.

The problem is that applications .openwin-init are not starting up
correctly.  I will get any number of the following error messages:

Xview Error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0 (Server Package)
Error: Can't Open Display: :0

If I use the OW "toolwait" command as suggested, I get:

toolwait: Couldn't Open display: (null)

As a result of these errors, the applications do not come up.  I get anywhere
from 1 to about 9 of the errors every time a start openwin.  It is exceedly
annoying when I start up openwin, and have half of my applications fail to
appear.  It makes open windows useless if I can't start out the way I want.

I have been trying to find the cause of the problem and after tweaking every
file I can think of and bringing up openwin several hundred times, I cannot
find a cause.  I would like someone from Sun to look into this. I know I'm
not the only one with this problem.  I checked the bug lists, and could not
find anything appropriate.

All I know is this:

The errors "seem" to appear when there are more than 7 or 8 applications in
.openwin-init.  However they can appear with less, but are much more probable
if more applications are present. Also, the larger the applications, the more
probable the error ( as if the server is too busy ).

If the line "sleep 1" is put in between each application, the errors disappear.

I refuse to let my users use OW3 until this error is taken care of.  It is 
ridiculous to have my users put a "sleep 1" in between each application.
Many of them barely know what a computer is let alone UNIX or X.  And the first
invocation of SAVE_WORKSPACE, the changes to .openwin-init will be wiped out.

I am sick and tired of dealing with these errors which occur every %&^%$&^$
day. I don't know where to go from here.

WILL THE PEOPLE FROM SUN OR SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE GIVE ME A REMEDY FOR THIS
SITUATION.

Thank you ... and have a nice day.

-ted
-- 
Ted Walsky                                           walsky@asel.udel.edu
Applied Science and Engineering Labratories
A.I. duPont Institute Children's Hospital / Univeristy of Delaware
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: nghoff@albert.monsanto.com (Norm G. Hoffman)
Subject: Problem scrolling with 'cmdtool vi file'
Summary: Vi gets window size wrong and doesn't scroll properly.
Keywords: cmdtool shelltool vi scrolling problem
Organization: Monsanto Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:25:38 GMT


I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 & OpenWindows 3.0 on a Sparc 1+.
I had some .openwin-menu entries for editing help files as follows:

"Help" MENU
    "csh"		 cmdtool vi /usr/local/help/csh-summary
    "vi"		 cmdtool vi /usr/local/help/vi-summary
    .
    .
    .
"Help" END PIN

These were taken from my SunView .rootmenu file where they worked fine,
but with OpenWindows, vi doesn't scroll properly.  Shelltool exhibits
the same symptoms.

I changed the entries as follows, and now it works fine.

"Help" MENU
    "csh"		 cmdtool -I 'vi /usr/local/help/csh-summary'
    "vi"		 cmdtool -I 'vi /usr/local/help/vi-summary'
    .
    .
    .
"Help" END PIN

Using these two approaches, I started two copies of vi.  The windows
were the same size, but vi's ":set all" command showed two different 
values for the window variable:  window=33 for the first, window=34
for the second.  I shortened the first window one line by dragging
its lower corner up a bit, and this fixed the scrolling problem.
So, apparently, vi got the wrong value for the window variable.

I'm doing some other things which make the first approach preferable.
I vaguely remember reading something about a timing problem, e.g., 
vi requesting the tty size before the window has been configured.
Has anyone heard about this?  Does anyone know of a solution that would 
allow the first approach to work?

Sincerely,

Norman G. Hoffman
Research Computing Consortium
Monsanto Company
700 Chesterfield Parkway North
St. Louis, Missouri  63198
Phone: 314-537-7018
Email: nghoff@bb1t.monsanto.com
From: jboyd@s.psych.uiuc.edu (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: olwm warning, X error
Summary: Error message at logout in OW 3
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:06:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt8KMM.7JK
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology


	I get the following warning/error message when I exit 
OpenWindows 3:

olwm: Warning, X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation)

 Request Major Code: 113
 Request Minor Code: 0
 Resource ID 0xb0005f

	I'd appreciate any help on why this is coming up, or what 
documentation I need to look it up.  Thanks.

-jb
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Is there a book on x-resources??
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:55:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug18.005552.5393
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hellow,
could anybody tell me if there is a definitive/exhaustive listings of 
x-resources that can go in .Xresources /.Xdefaults???  it seems a lot of
this stuff is scattered all over the place, with hazy descriptions.

is there an authoriatavie/exhaustive compendium of these somewhere??

thanx for answring,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3435 alt.toolkits.xview:763
From: dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David P. Kemp)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: Inverting an xview button
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:52:10 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Aug12.132348.11754@mr.med.ge.com> mazin@mr.med.ge.com (Barry Mazin 4-6073 MRCE) writes:
>Has anybody been able to invert the image of a panel_item in xview?  I used to 
>be able to invert button items in Sunview.   So far, I have been
>unsuccessful in trying to port this piece to xview.

By "invert" do you mean change the button's appearance as if it had been
pushed?  (Inverted in 2-D mode or Depressed in 3-D).

If so, you can call panel_begin_preview() and panel_cancel_preview().
Much simpler than mucking around with images directly.


-- 
   Dave Kemp   dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history."
    -- Arthur Schlesinger          (quote stolen from Chet Ramey, CWRU)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: jofre@socrates.umd.edu (Jaime Jofre)
Subject: OLGX api documentation --> where is it!!!!
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:24:32 GMT

Hi,
   The olvwm 3 distribution includes the olgx 2D/3D graphics library.  The
documentation suggest that there is an olgx_api.{txt, ps} document describing
the olgx API located in the doc directory. Alas, there is no doc directory.
I've looked through the mit distribution  for this document without any 
success.  Doea anyone know where I can obtain this file.  Many thanks,

Jaime Jofre
From: leo@ai.mit.edu (Leonardo C. Topa)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: SGI GL library on Sun's
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:11:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

I think this issue was just discussed, but I can't remember where and
of course I haven't kept that info and now I need it....

Could anybody tell me the name of the company that has ported Silicon
Graphics' GL library to the Sun environment? I seem to recall that
it's built on top of XGL...

Thanks a lot for your replies.

--

Leonardo C. Topa
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Room E25-506
45 Carleton Street
Cambridge, MA 02139

internet: lct@ai.mit.edu
From: weinri@athena.cs.uga.edu (Kevin Weinrich)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Got olvwm -- Now what do I do with it?
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:56:01 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

I just installed olvwm, and it looks nifty.  I'm trying to
find out what *other* users use it for -- how does it practically
help *you*?  Does anyone have a way of doing a screen dump/grab
for an area larger than a physical screen, particularly a
graphics window that is bigger than a logical screen, and thus
straddles screen boundaries.

Any war stories of how you make use of olvwm in your day-to-day
life would also be most appreciated.  If I get some good replies,
I'll summarize back to the net.

-Kevin Weinrich   weinri@athena.cs.uga.edu
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 10:40:27 MES
From: Frank Wuebbeling <WUEBBEL@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: cmdtool: Cursor moves left when hitting Cursor Up/Down

We use OpenWindows3.0 under 4.1.2. When I call cmdtool, write some lines
and move up or down in the middle of a line with the R8/R14-Key,
the cursor moves up or down, but also moves left one character!

The same behaviour applies in all textwindows produced by xview.
This may be the bug listed as 1060786 in $OPENWINHOME/share/buglist.xview.
I can't believe that SUN would be as idiotic as delivering a texteditor
that can't handle cursor movements correctly, so:

What am I doing wrong?

"Dipl.-Math. Frank Wuebbeling"

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			       /     Tel. (+49) 251 - 83 3795

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Re: Xview and process blocking?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:59:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <3bbffny@openlook.Unify.Com> fgreco@shearson.com (Frank Greco) writes:
=Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to block the parent process
=while the child runs in an XView environment?
=
=The parent process is an XView application which *must* wait until the
=child process terminates (eg, a compile).  I need to have the same
=behavior as system(); I need to fork()/exec() a shell that runs the
=child and optionally waits/doesn't wait for the child to terminate (ie,
=the appended '&').
=
=All of my current attempts have either gotten a no-waiting version,
=or the notifier goes into an infinite loop ignoring all SIGTERM signals.
=
=I'm trying to be a good XView citizen and not use good 'ole system(),
=which, btw, seems to work all the time...
=
=Thanks,
=
=Frank G.
==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=

If my memory serves me right, it is something like this,

if((pid = fork()) == 0)
   do something
   wid = wait(&pid);
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: fred@dip1.ee.uct.ac.za (Fred Hoare)
Subject: Mailtool and .signature
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:48:27 GMT
Reply-To: fred@dip1.ee.uct.ac.za
Organization: University of Cape Town

Hi

I'm sure that I've seen a post like this before but I can't remember
the answer to the question - Is there a FAQ list for this group and if so where
can I find it?

I am running OW 3.0 and would like to get the mailtool to automatically
append a signature to my mail. I had a look at the manual entry for mailtool
and for mail and tried to set up my .mailrc file.  The option I tried was the
following
	set sign=`~/.signature'
which is what would be used in mail to aappend a signature when the ~a command
was entered into a file.

Is there a way to do this or will mailtool source code have to be modified?

Thanks in advance for any replies
Fred
---
Frederick Hoare                email: fred@dip1.ee.uct.ac.za
Image Processing Laboratory
Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
University of Cape Town,  South Africa

From: ralphk@hpuecoz.NSR.HP.COM (RALPH KOTOSKI)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:48:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Stacker 2.0 and Windows 3.1
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Englewood, CO
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc


>does anyone know if Stacker 2.0 is compatible with Smartdrv 4.0 of Windows 3.1?

I'm using all three without a single problem...

>that is, if i install Stacker, can i still cache the stacked drive?

The Stacker Manual recommends caching the harddrive that contains
STACVOL.  This way, the stacked drive is cached and you can bring
more into cache since it is compressed.

>when i read the readme.wri in windows directory, it says
superstor is not compatible with smartdrv.

>that means you can't cache the drive that is superstored

>is that true for stacker 2.0 also?

Don't know what superstor is.  But shouldn't need to cache STACVOL,
just the drive it resides on.  Hope this helps....


Ralph Kotoski                          Hewlett-Packard PSO
Performance Specialist                 Neely Sales Region
ralphk@hpuecoz.nsr.hp.com              24 Inverness Place East
Ralph_Kotoski@hpatc3.desk.hp.com       Englewood, Colorado    80112
(303)-T649-5761                   :^)
Xref: sparky comp.windows.misc:1161 comp.windows.x:15347
From: av@kielo.uta.fi (Arto V. Viitanen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X Server for MS-Windows
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:58:44 GMT
Reply-To: av@uta.fi (Arto V. Viitanen)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland
In-reply-to: feng@netcom.com's message of 17 Aug 92 16:36:04 GMT

>>>>> On 17 Aug 92 16:36:04 GMT, feng@netcom.com (FengHeng Wu) said:


feng> I am planning to buy a X-Server that can run under MS-Windows -
feng> basically a product that can allow me to run X-applications in
feng> MS-Windows environment. So far I have come across only one such product
feng> - (HCL-eXceed/W by Hummingbird, Canada, which costs around $500). Could
feng> you suggest me some other such products, with some discussion on the
feng> relative merits, prices etc. ? Or a suitable newsgroup where I should
feng> post this ?


There is a file called XServers-NonUNIX.txt. It can be ftped from 

export.lcs.mit.edu[18.24.0.12] in /contrib/XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z
ftp.uwp.edu[131.210.1.4] in /pub/misc/XServers-NonUNIX.txt
msdos.archive.umich.edu[141.211.164.153] in
		msdos/info/XServers-NonUNIX.txt and
		msdos/info/xnonunix.zip

For PCs it lists following servers

1. DESQview/X
2. HCL-eXceed/W
3. IBM X/Windows
4. MicroX
5. PC DECwindows Motif V3.0
6. PC X-Windows
7. PC Xsight
8. PC-XView
9. SAGE 1280 Adapter and X Windows Display Server
10. TeemTalk-X
11. Term-X
12. Vista-eXceed
13. X-One
14. X11/AT
15. X Appeal
16. XVision
17. Xinet X-Station
18. Xnth
19. XoftWare

of which 2, 8, 12, 13, 14 and 16 are claimed to be Windows based. I think,
you can run Windows under DesqView/X.
--
Arto V. Viitanen				               email: av@uta.fi
University Of Tampere,				   	           av@cs.uta.fi
Finland
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: comp.windows.ms
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.143725.28133@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> af774@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chad Cipiti) writes:
>
>Where is it?

Comp.os.ms-windows is a new hierarchy for MS Windows. This newsgroup
is not for MS Windows. Comp.windows.ms was renamed in an attempt to
keep the number of MS Windows posts in this group to a minimum, but as
you can see, that was a failure.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.human-factors
From: warwick@rsvl.unisys.com (Warwick Irwin )
Subject: Seeking info on generic GUI interface - XVT?
Keywords: XVT GUI windows unix dos
Organization: rsvl.unisys
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 23:04:13 GMT


I am looking for information on any product which provides a generic
GUI interface to a (Unix/DOS/...) application and makes the appropriate
calls to whatever real GUI is in use.  (At least X and MS Windows.)

I have vague recollections of a product, which I think was called XVT,
which does this.  If this is correct, could someone please mail me the
address of the supplier?

Are there any alternatives?  Opinions welcome.

Profuse apologies if this is a FAQ, I usually lurk in other BBs.

Please respond via e-mail to warwick@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM, I will
summarise if interest level warrants.

-- 
Warwick Irwin     |  warwick@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM  |  "Am I a skegly?"
UNISYS, Roseville |-----------------------------------|  - Old lady worried
Minnesota         |  I am speaking for myself only.   |    about dyslexia.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.misc:1166 comp.sys.sun.apps:1643 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:3137
From: aihaug@austin.lockheed.com (Daniel A Haug)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Gain's Hypermedia product for Sun
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:06:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.misc
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744"


I saw a demo of a system developed by Gain Technology.  The
product is called Gain Momemtum.  I would probably best describe
it as a sophisticated Hypercard environment for Unix workstations
(e.g. SPARCs).  I've been told that Sun's Answerbook is built on
their product, and that they (Gain Tech) are now a wholly-owned
subsidiary of Sybase. I'm in the market for such a product, (user
interface prototyping, hypertext, multimedia support, running on a Sun).
However, their package price of about $150K is way out of my league.
Are there some similar packages already available (e.g. Hypercard like
capability for the Sun under X-windows)?  Anything for free?  Anything
under 10K/license?  I'm not interested in GUI builders, as I already
have those.  Has anyone worked with Gain's product, and can offer an
honest evaluation?

Please respond by email, as I have cross-posted.  I'll submit a summary
if there is interest.

Thanks in advance,

dan haug

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc