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From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:47:09 GMT
Organization: I would rather be windsurfing.
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In-reply-to: Andrea TONI's message of Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:26:35 +0100

> I am trying to keep an update list of K5 owners
> Do you still have your K5 ???
>   # jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com

Well, I still own it, but the only there are currently no audio lines
running from it: just MIDI lines connecting it to the PX1000+ I just
bought over the net (hi Craig!).  Someday I want to get a 88key
weighted controller to replace it and put the K5 in my office so I can
practice over lunch or while waiting for late night compiles to
finish.


--
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Jeffrey Glen Jackson  _|_Satan jeered, "You're dead meat Jesus, I'm gonna
jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com |     bust you up tonight."
x5120                  | Jesus said, "Go ahead, make my day."
                   ~~~~~~~~~ -- Carman, "The Champion"
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Am I the only person that thinks Perot looks like a Ferengi?
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: FOR SALE: Yamaha MJC8 8x8 MIDI Patcher
Summary: Good starter unit for simple rigs, cheap
Organization: Atomic City
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:05:14 GMT


Hi gang. I'm upgrading to a bigger patcher, and have outgrown my Yamaha
MJC8, so I thought I'd put it up for sale to any interested buyer. The
MJC8 is an eight-in, eight-out MIDI patcher. It does splitting but not
merging, has 100 memory locations for patch arrangements, and a front-
panel LCD display that shows the routing of each input to each output.
It also has MIDI activity lights for each output (the one feature I KNOW
I'm going to miss). It mounts in a single rack space, and uses AC power
with no wallwart. It does not accept program changes via MIDI-- patcher
setups can only be changed from the front panel.

This is a very nice patcher for beginners who want a simple patching setup
to start out with; I'm asking $150, which is in line with the usual price
from used-gear stores like Rogue. The unit is in its original box, with
manual, and in immaculate shape. Email me if you're interested. Thanks.

-- 
metlay            |             No Panning
atomic city       |             No Phasing
                  |             No
metlay@netcom.com | 
From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 07 Oct 92 12:35 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Where to get Curtis ICs
Message-ID: <27300054@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #N:trsvax:27300054:000:135
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Oct  7 12:35:00 1992


Ok, one more time.....

CEM chips are available from:

Doug Curtis
On-Chip Systems
1190 Coleman Ave
San Jose, CA 95110
(408)-988-5400


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: This is my last message to r.m.s.
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:38:59 GMT


>You said (Re: This is my last message to r.m.s.)
>> Well, it looks like the net is finally rid of my annoyances.  As a result of
>> the Wendy Carlos post, and a followup personal email message I wrote to
>> someone who chastitized me for writing it, I fear that I will be loosing all
>> net privilages later today.  Unfortunately, in that personal e-mail reply
>> to the person who was offended contained the f-word.  Now, in the wake of
>> Tailgate incident, this matter will probably end up costing me a hell of a
>> lot more than my net access.

This is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but how can *this* be a reason to end someone's
net-access? I read lots of groups and I've seen worse postings...
Maybe we Dutch are just too liberal...

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  |  hjv@phil.ruu.nl  |   You look for your dreams in
Dept. of Philosophy   |                   |   heaven, but what the hell are
University of Utrecht |                   |   you supposed to do when they
The Netherlands       |                   |   come true...?
From: Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Need cheap master kybd: Roland A-30 good?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:53:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>In all honesty, I'm looking for a controller without all of the special
functionality, since it will be used mostly be someone who doesn't play
piano - he needs it mostly for simple input to a sequencer, one track at
a time.

Why not try out the PC300 (?) from Roland.  Designed specifically for
computer keyboard use - velocity sensitive, pitch bend/mod simple.
Easy to use.  About $300.

Aron_Nelson@cup.portal.com
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: metlay/eirikur fooled by vfx-sd
Summary: A-HEM!
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:48:27 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <718729120.760000.D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU> D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes:

>Hmmm.. So Metlay and Eirikur were fooled into thinking the VFX-SD was
>an expander? Was this just by one waveform/patch or by many patches?

Ahem. I realize you were quoting someone else's post, but let's get
the facts straight here. Eirikur was in fact fooled into thinking that
the leadline for "Fall of the Hammer," the first song in last
December's "Beta Test" sessions, was an Xpander. He made the
assumption because he had never heard an Xpander before and had
entered the studio for the first time as we were committing the song
to tape. I knew quite well that the VFXsd was a VFXsd, because I was
mixing the damn song. I have never done a blind listening test to
determine whether or not I can be fooled by any machine claiming to be
an Xpander, but the quality of the VFX sounds have never been an issue
for me. In a phone call last night, John 3 admitted that in listening
to an impromptu jam session that happened late one night this past
August, he could no longer tell the difference between the K2000's
piano and the VFX's piano in the (admittedly cluttered) mix. "I'm
assuming," he told me, "that considering my condition at that hour of
the night, the parts that were played properly were Joe's." |->

The VFX's excellent sound quality has never been in question to me
or Nick or many others of the Ensoniq bashers. Its reliability was
the sticking point.




-- 
metlay            | and she's a master of return hitting          
atomic city       | giving rhythm to her posts
                  | so you read her and think hey it sounds good
metlay@netcom.com | and wish her posts had a soundtrack too    (f. ercolessi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: sullivan@nodename.dec.com (Greg Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Clavinet Example (was: Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:24:05 GMT


Re: the Hohner Clavinet - thanks to whoever posted that info.
'Wammy bar' or no 'wammy bar', :-) that's a GREAT sound!! (I dug out a tape of
Superstition). So that sound actually comes from a keyboard instrument!. I
always had a hard time visualising what could make that sound. It sounded to me
like some type of electric bass.

I read a Keyboard review of the Roland MK80 along time ago. They whinged a
little that it didn't have the Hohner Clav sound. I do like the Roland SAS
(MKS20) clav, but, yes, that Hohner sound is better!

Greg.
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e-mail: sullivan@aussie.dec.com       |  utilised.
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings for synths
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:33:14 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <Oct.14.12.49.06.1992.14145@ace.rutgers.edu>, rosensta@ace.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark) writes:
>
>I would like to write a piece for a twenty-note to the octave tuning
>system.  Will the Yamahas handle this?  If so, would they respond to
>MIDI in this state?

The Yamaha SY99 allows you to assign a specific frequency to each of
the 128 MIDI note values.  Unfortunately, you must work with a
resolution of about 1.17 cents.  However, this should be enough for
practically any tuning scheme.  Since MIDI only addesses note numbers 
(not pitches) there is no problem.


-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson)
Subject: Re: TG77 stereo separation
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:10:27 GMT

mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger) writes:



>	I am having a problem with my TG77.  I am trying to make
>a special tape from it of a duet.  I want each part located exclusively
>in its own channel, top part only in right, bottom only in left stereo
>channel.   This is no problem.
>	However, when I try to add a bit of room reverb for presence,
>the channel separation is lost.  I have tried assigning voices to
>group one and group two and every other trick I can think of or
>find in the manual.  When any of the reverb effects are added I lose
>the stereo separation in direct proportion to the amount of reverb
>blended in with the stereo routed around.  I have tried effects both
>in the voice menu and in the multi menu, all types of static pan
>assignments I can find, all manner of effects settings etc.

>No effects = perfect separation.
>Effects on  = channels mixed.

>	Any suggestions on what I am missing, doing wrong, not
>understanding?   Thanks in advance.

I think that your problem is not with the TG77, but with the
reverb unit.  With most "stereo" reverbs, you might as well
have a mono input and L&R outs... I suspect that where you
are losing your stereo signal....  

You might try using a separate reverb unit for each channel
(L&R) as they come out of the TG77.

Good Luck!

>mike@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: K2000 failures
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:28:00 GMT


In my opinion, a fan is not necessary when you have a stock K2000 with 8 MB
memory.  It is an option which I would recommend, and, I have ordered one
for my K2000.  Again, I have had my K2000 for about 7 months now.  It gets
turned on (at a minimum) every thursday night, and remains on through Sunday.
When we were at Metlay's it remained on for (at least) 16 hour days in a
studio wher the ambient room temperature sometimes exceeded 90 deg F.  It
has never exhibited any unusual behavior (except for melting Metlay's
stand's skid rings :-) ).

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: David Cortright <davidc@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Need cheap master kybd: Roland A-30 good?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:21:13 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:30:14 GMT

I've heard great things about the Yamaha KX-88.  You can get a used one
for fairly cheap.

And though I haven't tried out many of the newer keyboards, my favorite
was always the Kurzweil MIDIBoard.  It had the BEST feel IMO.  It listed
for about $2500 if I remeber correctly.
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 16:32:12 -0400 
From: Miguel Pating <mp51+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mail Order

Can anyone please e-mail me some names and phone numbers of some
reliable mail order companies that provide a good selection and price
for sound modules?  I'm looking for a Roland Sound Canvas or a CM-32,
and would like to find a used one if possible. 

Thanx..


Miguel

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: Re: 8-bit 16-bit
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:23:47 GMT

brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:

>I'll chip in my two cents:  One of the true quadraphonic systems (anybody
>remember the Quad wars about 20 years ago, and the fights between
>the various matrices vs true [independent] quad?  Does anybody care?)
>used a carrier system to shift two channels up by ca 30kHz.  The

>Pete Brooks

Two comments:

1) Oh, those poor dogs!  God forbid you should forget to turn on your quad 
   decoder with a pet present in the room :-) 
2) I wonder how surface anomalies sounded when shifted down in frequency.  
   Probly not 2 good.  Of course, we can barely remember surface anomalies :-)
   (Not 2 mention wow+flutter, surface wear, the cat jumping on the turntable:-)

BTW:  I remember reading in the original Philips CD pre-release glossy (1982??)
      that Quad was to be incorporated in the CD standard.  Hmm.  Where is it? 

Barry 
bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:16645 comp.music:4793
From: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: Yamaha SY35 and Cakewalk 4.0E DOS
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:31:24 GMT
Reply-To: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <1992Oct16.084121.5218@infodev.cam.ac.uk> mos11@cus.cam.ac.uk (Mark Scase) writes:
>I have just bought Cakewalk 4.0E for DOS to use with my Yamaha SY35.
>...
>like to do system exclusive dumps from the SY35 to Cakewalk but the
>Cakewalk file CAKEWALK.SXT doesn't include paramaters for the SY35.

>FYI, my copy of CAKEWALK.SXT (the Cakewalk system exclusive dump request
>macro file) is dated 13 June 1991 and includes the necessary information
>for the Yamaha SY22 - not much use to me.


Have you tried using the SY22 dump request?

The SY22 data should work. I have dumped SY22 files into an SY35. The SY35
is really a repackaged 22 with better samples.
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 3700 vs. DA-30 -- ask me how
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:30:36 GMT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

rosensta@ace.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark) writes:

>
> okay, folks, I have had both a 3700 and a DA-30 in my studio for days
> each recently.  Here's the big warning:
>
> the 3700 does not have a margin readout!  You never know exactly how
> much to adjust your input level to bring yoursamples/mixdowns/

Hmmmm... I don't get it... MY SV-3700 has a readout which lists DB and
has a knob to adjust the incoming signal. If the analog input is too hot,
I turn it down... no problem... I guess I don't understand the question.

Then again, 75% of the work I do is all done digitally from Sound Tools
so everything is normalized to a perfect 0db anyways...

<X>orcist



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   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ system@cyberden.uucp ]
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Midi song - "Borderline - Madonna"
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:59:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <0105009A.frk8sc@david.roth-music.com> david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) writes:

>> How could you
>> know what the jurys musical taste will dictate when you wrote
>> a piece of music? Especially when you hadn't even HEARD the
>> other song...
>
>A jurys taste is music has nothing to do with it.  They will play
>both works and they will decide if there is infringement.  You don't
>need tp be an expert musician in order to be on the jury. 

A deaf person (or a person with hearing dissorders) can be on a jury.

Davei
From: elf@oldearth.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Fleschute)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: If you had $1500 to spend
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:02:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: elf@oldearth.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: oldearth.corp.sun.com


>What would you spend your $1500 on?

You should be able to pick up a Kurzweil K1200 for about that price.  If I 
recall correctly, I saw one for $1695 three months ago.  

Great piano sound!  A lot of people also love the strings.

>Ease in portability

Not this one.  This baby is heavy!

Ed Fleschute  (415)336-3753


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Subject: (no subject given)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:26:35 +0100
From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

SUbject : -- K5 owners list --

Hi,
I am trying to keep an update list of K5 owners
and I hope you can answer back to me and/or update this file

Do you still have your K5 ???

   # List of possible K5 owner or ex-owner !!! please add and resend !

   # ressler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu
   # mbl@media-lab.media.mit.edu   		(Marc LoCascio)
   # JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL    	(John Rossi)
   # jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com
   # five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca			(Skinny Puppy)
   # dstowell@ddsw1.MCS.COM 			( Maybe ?? )
   # dce@smsc.sony.com				(David Elliot)
   # sharley@isis.cs.du.edu
   # kws@franklin.ee.umr.edu 			(Kevin Schneider)
   # bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov
   # cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
   # jws7793@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
   # Jack.Hurwitz@f440.n109.z1.FidoNet.Org 	(Jack Hurwitz)
   # WSCOTT@WOOSTER.BITNET			(Bill Scott)
   # beltran@ns.network.com 			(Tony R. Beltran)
   # selick@csa.bu.edu 				(Steven Selick)
   # peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com 		(Dan Peters)
   # david@rs023.scic.intel.com 		(David Nedwek)
   # jkg@prism.gatech.EDU 			(Jim Greenlee)
   # drb@cs.brown.edu 				(Dan Bornstein)
   # rainer@spot.Colorado.edu			(Rainer Malzbender)
   # dpm@cray.com 				(Donald P. Maghrak)
   # michael@NSMA.AriZonA.EdU 			(Michael S. Williams)
   # smill@polari.online.com			(Steven M. Miller)
   # alice@media.mit.edu 			(Alice Lei)
   # bob@bbs.oit.unc.edu			(Bob Weigel)
   # bobhays@SPSS.COM				(Bob Hays)
   # lpeterson@dazixco.ingr.com			(Larry Peterson)

   # andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl   		(Andrea Toni) .. me !!

If some of this infos are obsolete please send me details about new e-mail
and/or new owners.

Ciao
Andrea TONI
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,comp.music,alt.emusic
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Copyrights
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:55:42 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: 	ASCAP sued the tavern in federal court, seeking
: 	up to $100,000 in damages for unauthorized playing of the
: 	two ASCAP-licensed tunes and three others by Chick Corea,
: 	Dizzy Gillespie, and Jimmy Van Heusen during April and
: 	May. The real aim of the suit, though, is to prod Takoma
: 	Station into signing a licensing agreement with ASCAP,
: 	something that the tavern has resisted for years.
: ...
: Anybody else here get the opinion that maybe ASCAP is getting a little
: greedy? First off, shouldn't they be going after the bands instead of
: the bar?

Excuse me?  You mean you want the bands to be responsible for paying ASCAP dues
for the songs they play?  This is not how copyright law works, thank god.  Any
club that features music needs to pay its dues, it's as simple as that.  Or
perhaps you think bands should simply avoid playing tunes covered by ASCAP?
That would throw out about half the tunes in the world.  Then BMI gets on your
case, and you've thrown out the other half.  We're not talking about just a few
old standards here.  We are talking virutally every single tune written since
ASCAP and BMI were born, which was I believe well over 50 years ago, and
probably many of the ones before that (I don't know if they work retroactively
or not).  Oh yeah, there is also SESAC, but I'm not sure how much they cover.

: I just don't feel a bar owner should
: have to pay for the right to hire a band that might do a cover of an
: old standard that most people in the audience, a) have heard performed
: by other bands, and b) recognize as being a cover of an old standard,
: if they don't actually know the original composer. 

This totally baffles me.  Given that virtually every tune you could possibly
think of is covered by ASCAP or BMI or SESAC, *someone* has to pay for the
right to perform it, if the composer is to collect his due under copyright law.
Take you choice - the owner, or the band.  Admittedly, if ASCAP et al decided
to charge bands instead of owners, they'd encourage a lot more people to play
originals, I suppose.

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Roland Sound Space
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:06:23 GMT
Organization: no risk to you!

In rec.music.synth, mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski) writes:

    Has anyone heard the new Roland Sound Space system?

    It is supposed to give a 3-D sonic image using only
    2 speakers. You can "position" up to 4 independent
    sound sources around you, both in the horizontal and
    in the vertical plane using 2 knobs per source.

    Does it work in your opinion?
    -- 

Suzanne Cianni used it on (I think) "Hotel Luna."  On her piece "Rain,"
for example, she said she used it to put each note in just the right
place.  Well, maybe I heard it and maybe not.  I'm still not sure.  It's
certainly a subtle effect for the money!

                       Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                     Oh Hannu, this is most unbusinesslike.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: graeme@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Graeme Gill)
Subject: Re: 8-bit 16-bit (Really vinyl BW)
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:16:51 GMT

In article <9210051531.AA01226@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
> cassette tape to greater than 84 dB.  As for the frequency resolution of
> vinyl, 30KHz should not be uncommon and I would think that 40KHz would be
> a lot more reasonable an upper limit than 15KHz (isn't this one of the big


(Some trivia)
	One of the discrete (as opposed to matrix) quadraphonic LP systems used a
sub-carrier of something like 40-50Khz. At the time of its introduction it needed
a special stylus (one with an oval rather than spherical cross section), and there
was some concern that the sub-carrier signals would wear a lot faster than the normal
(audio) signals.

	Graeme Gill.
From: hogan@sound (Kharim Hogan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: BIG SAMPLERS (100MB or more) anyone have info?
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:51:54 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM

What are the samplers with large memory capacity? We are looking  
for those in the order of 100 MB or more. Note that  we're  
referring to RAM not hard disk. Keyboard magazine (Mar. '89)  
lists Synclavier 9600 with 96MB and Waveframe AudioFrame with  
120MB. Are there any others?


Any info would be appreciated.  Thanks!!





-- 
*************************************************************************
     Kharim M. Hogan             Systems Administrator 
     hogan@music.mcgill.ca       Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: If you had $1500 to spend
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:38:00 GMT


Although the Proteus MPS makes for a not-too-bad controller keyboard, it really
isn't worth too much more than the cost of the plastic it's made of.  I really
think that Samick did a much better job of repackaging a Proteus into a 
keyboard than did Emu.  In my opinion, Emu deserves to go the way of Sequential
Moog and Arp.  Just another example of a cutting edge American company 
loosing face for marketing a shitty product.

John