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From: dbowman@shade (Don A. Bowman)
Subject: Re: atari portfolio
Organization: University of Waterloo
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:33:53 GMT

 (JSY103@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:
: I have recently aquired an atari portfolio.  This is a hendheld computer that
: runs on dos. I would like to transfer files via serial port from my 386sx
: pc to the atari.  The manual for the portfolio doesn't give any discription
: of how this should be done.  I have the hardware link from the portfolio
: to the pc but don't know where to go from there.  If anyone could give
: me a clue as to what to do to transfer files from my pc (ie. serial port
: configuration) I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
: 
:                                       Yohann ...psuvm

There is a bootstrapping program to get the serial port going. You can get
this from the atari archive, or I'll send you mind if you wish.

Once the bootstrap is done, you can transfer files at will with error
checking -- it is only getting that first program on thats a tad difficult.

Like you, I bought the Port with the serial only. I developed my own method
before I learned others had also.

The basic method is:

Port:
 copy com1: filename

PC:
 copy filename com1:




--
Don Bowman                (519) 744-6154     dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Which calculator has a long life?  TI or HP?
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:20:38 CDT

In article <9uk1RB3w164w@cflav.sublink.org> flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta) writes:
>
>With regard to the HP48 I can tell you only that I am typing on the 
>keyboard since May 1990 ** every day ** : it never missed a keypress.

It misses keystrokes if you type too fast, but this is a feature, not a
bug. :-)

Some people might argue that the 48 goes to a little _too_ much trouble
for its keyscan routine -- it sure does suck CPU time!

>So I am ported to conclude that fine technology has its own costs.
>If the TI-85 costs much less than the HP48 is because it costs much less
>to Texas.

I have to believe that TI is getting a significantly lower cut per calculator
than HP is.  After all, HP it out to maximize their profits, and they
know that their name alone is worth something!

But what the heck... the exact numerical price is irrelevant,
it's whether or not it's worth $X to you.  I probably would have paid a little
more for the 48 that I did -- but don't tell that to HP marketing! :-)

						---Joel Kolstad
From: dunguyen@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: hp28s,need info on downloading
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:28:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.004138.28381@ncsu.edu>, mhhutchi@unity.ncsu.edu (Max Hutchison) writes:
> I am interested and have been trying to find some help with downloading info 
> into my hp28s. Can anyone help with the way to find an interface and what ever is needed to do this. THANKS. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.hp48
From: uj1g@ibm3090.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Marek Tomczyk)
Subject: Re: FTP?
Organization: Uni-Karlsruhe
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:19:12 GMT

In article <66956@cup.portal.com> sjthomas@cup.portal.com (Stephen J Thomas) writes:

>I believe the site seq.uncwil.edu has an HP28 directory.

Try also 129.69.1.12

Marek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: RE: Sharp PC-E500's LCDC
From: Svein Fagerland <FAGER@gribb.hsr.no>
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:22:20 GMT+1
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From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: What about if the HP with a card has been dropped?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:40:02 GMT

Yet another "dropped HP48" annecdote:

My HP48 fell from the hood of my car onto the concrete parking lot.  The
HP case was on.  No damage seemed to be done so I turned it on.  The
message "REPLACE RAM CARD" appeared.

Upon inspection, I found that bothe the 128k RAM card and the EQ LIB card
had jarred themselves loose (the cover to the card area did not fall
off).

I replaced both cards and turned the calculator on and, to my relief,
*NOTHING* was lost!!

Pretty smart calculator, huh!?

Just my two bits.

Bill Levenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Ti-85 Vs. HP-48sx for Mech. Engnr
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:49:38 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I am a freshman in Mechanical Engineering at KU. A month ago or so I
bought the TI-85 for my calc class. I am very impressed with its
features. I was wondering: Will I need to get an HP-48sx to make my
life easier? I know EE students really need the SX for circuits, etc.
Are the HP-48sx advantages the same for ME students? Money isn't an
issue. Is RPN that hard to get used to? From what LITTLE I have seen,
it looks really wierd. Any inf would be apprecaited.

-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: chungy2@aix.rpi.edu (Yau Felix Chung)
Subject: 41CX for sale
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:58:31 GMT

	I have an HP-41CX for sale with the following:

		* 41CX manuals and case
		* HP-41 advantage packi with manuals
		* Math/Stat pack with manuals
		* New rechargable HP battery pack

	All of the above are in perfect condition.

	I am selling all the above for $100.00.  
	Buyer pays for COD & shipping charges.

		If interested please e-mail chungy2@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Ti-85 Vs. HP-48sx for Mech. Engnr
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:17:42 CDT

In article <=5_pkfh.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:

>I'd say AOS is about as unusable as you can get for anything but copying
>straight out of a book. RPN with the 4 level stack is great for problem
>solving and fooling around with the numbers. As for the HP-48SX, with
>a full stack, I wonder. Anybody care to respond?

I like the full stack better than a 4 level stack.  In fact, I really
wish my HP-32S II had about a 10 level stack! :-)

RPN alone is bad for, say, graphing things or solving equations, since
you normally start out with an equation printed on a sheet of paper.
Algebra alone is bad (for me) because it slows me done for just doing
plug and chug calculations.  The HP-48 offers the best of both worlds,
and keeps me quite happy.

HP seems to have taken this stance too -- one of the improvements of
the HP-32S II over the original HP-32S is the ability to enter equations
in algebraic form.

						---Joel Kolstad
From: bakerdds@milton.u.washington.edu (David Baker)
Subject: HP 48-SX System for sale 
Reply-To: bakerdds@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:49:29 GMT



Great news!  I have a complete 48SX system for sale.  I used it in my 
mechanical engineeering career, but now I have moved on to dentistry!

	ITEMS FOR SALE  (package price is quite a deal!)

	1) HP 48-SX calculator.  Complete with documentation and "dust-free."
	
	2) IR Printer- Wireless thermal printer.  (new = $115)

	3) HP Solve equation library ROM card.  
		Multiple eqn. solver, hundreds of engineering formulas, 
		periodic table, the "most useful" expansion card. (new = $89)

	4) Interface kit for Macintosh- Cable and software. (new = $89)

	
	
	Everything is in FLAWLESS CONDITION!!  I don't need this type of
	computing power anymore.  I am willing to part with it for $350.

	WHAT A DEAL... that is almost HALF what it cost new!  

	Reply back to this memo, or just call me at 206-548-1088 (Seattle).

	Thanks for your interest, David Baker.   :-)   :-)


Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Subject: Re: Ti-85 Vs. HP-48sx for Mech. Engnr
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:58:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.201942.24993@linus.mitre.org>, m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
|> kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com writes:
|> > [I like HP calculators] and I love the RPN.
|> 
|> Oh, Gawd... ! Not RPN vs. Algebraic again!  Enough already!
	...
|> use Algebraic.  But even HP (finally) admitted that their
|> choice of RPN way back when was driven by hardware 
|> considerations alone (it was just easier to do stack/RPN) and
|> not by any inherent superiority of RPN as a computational
|> paradigm or human-calculator interface.  Live and let live, 
	...

I am curious.  Exactly when and where did HP state this?  (I'm not
claiming that your assertion isn't true, but I would like to read the
article.)

Actually, I think that there are reasons why RPN is preferred, but I
won't go into them (:-).  As you said, enough said.

Craig

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: TI-TANK for TI-85
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:01:37 GMT

	I was wondering, is there's a TI-Tank program written for TI-85?
I know it wouldn't be hard to type the 81's program up for 85.
However, as you see, the orginal program has to use 7 different
programs.  I thought maybe with TI-85's better programming commands,
we could save up the space a bit and make it easier to install.
After all, Label and Goto is really confusing (for me) :)
				Ming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: dbowman@rainbow (Don A. Bowman)
Subject: Re: Which calculator has a long life?  TI or HP?
Organization: University of Waterloo
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:22:08 GMT

Paul Broe (doctor@k9.UUCP) wrote:
: 
: I seem to remember reading that HP tested the 48 by dropping it from ~6 feet
: onto concrete. HP makes some tough stuff.
: 

HP calculators are designed to withstand a 6-foot drop to concrete from any
angle, landing on any edge. Withstand means with no damage. I will vouch for
this ability -- my 28S dropped 8 feet down a flight of stair, and works
fine!

--
Don Bowman                (519) 744-6154     dbowman@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: dlh34340@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis L. Huang)
Subject: FOR SALE: HP48SX
Summary: HP48SX
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:54:43 GMT
Keywords: HP48SX

I have the following HP48SX items for sale.
 
     1. HP48SX calculator (ROM ver. E) ............ $225
     2. HP Solve Equation Library card ............ $ 70
     3. HP48SX to Macintosh serial cable .......... $ 20
     4. HP48SX Programmer's Reference Manual ...... $ 15
 
I would like to sell everything together for $330. If you don't want everything
or think I am asking for too much $$, contact me and I will consider selling
them separately and/or for less $$. Everything is in great condition with 
all the original packaging available. Thanks.
 
Home Phone: 332-4156
E-mail: dlh34340@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: akcs.husty@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ali Persian Momeni)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Artillery for Ti-81
Message-ID: <2ac745e7.4859.3comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

DAVE
I can't believe you sat down and typed the whole source of you TiTank (I
love the name, by the way!)
WAY TO GO!

ali.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: brianc@iastate.edu (Brian J Cerveny)
Subject: Re: TI/Casio comment (was Re: <None>)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:45:16 GMT

In <1992Sep25.230914.1@stsci.edu> safley@stsci.edu writes:

>>>P.S.  Reverse Polish Notation is absolutely wonderful and it (after you
>>>are used to it) makde your life MUCH easier.
>> 
>> Not if the equation operating system is competent on the calculator.
>> If I want to calculate (2cos(45/3-12.5)+5(3/2+4)^2)/3 then that is 
>> EXACTLY how I enter it.  No need to remember the order of operations you
>> want to perform and jump around the equation on paper to see what you
>> want to do with it.

>What? Do you have a 48s or 48sx? Have you ever read anything about it? If so,
>you should know that you can enter the equation above EXACTLY as you have
>it entered above. (And you can enter it in the equation writer
>exactly as it would appear on paper, if so inclined.
>Does the TI have something similar? I've never seen the TI).

Yes, I've used an HP-48 extensively.  I realize there is an equation writer,
but in this case we were discussing RPN.  The TI doesn't have quite the
extensive writer that the HP does.. the function I have above is just how
an equation is intered.  There is no mode where the function appears on a
full screen with integrals and horizontal divisors, etc. like you'd see in
a calculus book.  (I've thought about programming one though, since the TI
allows for string-to-equation conversion.)

I did neglect to acknowledge the equation writer.  I was merely pointing out
that RPN, while certainly better than a large number of scientific calcs,
it isn't necessarily the best thing in the world for a lot of people.
-- 
   // Brian J. Cerveny (brianc@iastate.edu)
 \X/  Disclaimer:  The views expressed above are my own.  So there.
From: schuettm@cgrb.orst.edu (MARC SCHUETTE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: HP48SX FOR SALE
Summary: HP48SX FOR SALE. VERY LOW MILES, LIKE NEW. INCLUDES ALL MAN. AND CASE. ALSO COMES WITH 'AN EASY COURSE IN USING THE HP48' ASKING $235 (OBO) FOR ALL. CONTACT MARC AT (503)758-8121 OR SCHUETTM@UCS.ORST.EDU
Keywords: HP48SX FOR SALE
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:21:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cgrb.schuettm.1
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, Oregon State University

HP48SX FOR SALE. VERY LOW MILES,LIKE NEW.
INCLUDES HP EQUATIONS LIBRARY CARD, ALL MAN. AND CASE, 'AN EASY COURSE IN
USING THE HP48' BOOK`
CONTACT MARC AT (503)758-8121 OR SCHUETTM@UCS.ORST.EDU
From: lepard@mayo.edu (Kevin O. Lepard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Which calculator has a long life? TI or
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:25:29 GMT
Reply-To: lepard@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation


---
>Well, face it.  The HP is built like a tank.  The TI isn't.  While the battery
>cover might fly off, I wouldn't expect anything to actually break.  (Although
>my TI-35 did split into all of its individual keys and pieces when I fastballed
>it at my brick wall.  :)

I second this.  My trust 15C has been dropped onto concrete, stepped on,
tossed around in heavy book bags for, oh, going on 10 years now, and still
runs like a champ.  It even survived having conc. HCl spilled on it.  Of
course, some of the markings on the keys, etc. got dissolved, but I know
what those keys do anyway. :)

I don't know if my 48 is that durable.  I tend to be a little suspicious
of anything with big LCD displays, but I certainly expect it to survive
normal wear, tear, and drops, if not an acid bath. :)
>
>
>Maybe I'll throw my 68 at the wall and see if it still works.  Naaaa.  :)

I'm not trying this my my 48 either. :)
>-- 
>   // Brian J. Cerveny (brianc@iastate.edu)
> \X/  Disclaimer:  The views expressed above are my own.  So there.



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Internet:  lepard@mayo.edu

Disclaimer:  These opinions are mine alone and do not necessarily represent
those of the Mayo Foundation, Mayo Clinic, or any other person or institution.
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:16:51 GMT
Subject: Re: HP95LX Graphics Bios Calls
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

Look on eddie.mit.edu in distrib/hp95lx directory for a file called something
like hp95dev.zip.  In it (or elsewhere on the archive) you should find a file
called graph.doc that will answer your questions.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Which calculator has a long life?  TI or HP?
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:48:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

>	Also, does anyone know if one of those calculator's keyboard
> would last longer than the other?

If an HP calculator broke simply because it had been dropped from a 
height of 1 meter, it would be a surprise.  My HP 15C has many years
on it, quite a few scratch marks, but is still going fine.

I do not work in the calculator division, and have had my 15C long
before I came to HP, but would be willing to place a wager that my 
calculator would survive more abuse than your 85.  Hmmm, calculator
olympics takes on a new meaning . . .

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Campbell                Some times I wish that I could stop you from
campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Hewlett Packard                                    - Elvis Costello
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: b645zjo@utarlg.uta.edu (Rick Homard)
Subject: mach. lang. for the TI-85
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:37:00 GMT

I called the tech dept the other day and got the low down regarding
machine language programming on the TI-85.  

Machine language programming (according to the person on the phone)
cannot be done on the TI-85.  This ability has be "designed-out" of
the machine.  TI intended the machine to be a powerful calculating
machine and not a programming tool.  
Additionally, there are no PEEK or POKE statements or even a backdoor
to gain access to the processor.   All has been designed out of the
machine.  

As for the firmware:
TI licensed the mathematical software program ICE PACK  (or was it
ICE PICK?).  This software is FORTRAN based and according to the 
person on the other end of the phone the algorithms were copied exactly.

This is about all I have (for now).

Rick Homard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: knightf@infonode.ingr.com (Frank Knight)
Subject: Questions on TI's
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:59:15 GMT

I noticed the new TI-60X seems alot like the TI-68 but
is a few $ cheaper, (29$vs33$) is there any difference?

What are the additional capabilities of the TI-85 over
the TI-81? (short form).

Frank
From: sjl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Steve J Lacey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: transfering files from Psion 3 to unix box
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:24:44 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Department Of Computing, Imperial College, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stork.doc.ic.ac.uk
In-reply-to: eric@chemeng.ed.ac.uk's message of 27 Sep 92 16:41:53 GMT

>>>>> On 27 Sep 92 16:41:53 GMT, eric@chemeng.ed.ac.uk (Eric S Fraga) said:
Eric> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Eric> Can one transfer (easily) between a Psion 3 and a unix box?  (a
Eric> Sun ELC, in particular, but this shouldn't matter...)

It's perfectly possible using y/xmodem protocols. Just plug the 3link
cable into the sparc serial lead... I backup my psion to a unix box.

Eric> Thanks,
Eric> eric

Steve.
--
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Steve J Lacey, Systems Group.      (In my opinion, my opinions are just that.)
Department of Computing, Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine,
180 Queen's Gate, London SW7. Phone : 071 589 5111 x5085, Fax : 071 581 8024 
Email: sjl@doc.ic.ac.uk            `Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?'
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From: ETLANE%UTCVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: RE: What about if the HP with a card has been dropped?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:24:54 GMT
Return-path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:ETLANE@UTCVM.BITNET>
In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:39 CST
To: handhelds@gac.edu


  When my hp48 dropped, it hit the floor on the cornor next to the IR
port.  This jarred the two cards I had installed out of their sockets.
When I reinserted them both and turned on the hp48, I got a recover
memory message.  Didn't recover the important stuff.  I noticed that
<< WSLOG >>  EVAL gave a record of the last four system halt events.
The last one was a code  B = Module Pulled, at the time and date when
the hp48 hit the floor.  Otherwise I haven't noticed any damage.
From: hwcco@chevron.com (Bill Corea)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: PPC (HP-41 Users' Group)
Keywords: HP-41 user groups
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:25:42 GMT
Reply-To: hwcco@chevron.com (Bill Corea)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron Overseas Petroleum Inc

Does anyone know what happened to the PPC group that did so
much for the HP-41? They were located in Santa Ana, CA, then 
Long Beach, CA, but then they seemed to vanish from the face
of the earth.


Bill Corea                     Chevron Overseas Petroleum         
hwcco@chevron.com     San Ramon, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: brianc@iastate.edu (Brian J Cerveny)
Subject: Re: TI-85 games
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:40:53 GMT

In <1992Sep25.232551.16217@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> sklar@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Dave Sklar) writes:

>	I have the code for the 81 around somewhere.  As for the program on
>the TI-85, well, mine kind of ceased to work yesterday.  So I'm shipping it
>back to TI and they'll send me a fixed one in 2-3 weeks.

There's one reason I don't regret having spent a little more money at the
university bookstore than I could have at Target stores or mail-order.
I got a free 1-year extended warranty (so it's two years now) and until
the end of this semester if the unit breaks I can take it in to the
bookstore and they will immediately replace it right there for me.  Not
bad insurance that I'll have a working calculator come finals time.

-- 
   // Brian J. Cerveny (brianc@iastate.edu)
 \X/  Disclaimer:  The views expressed above are my own.  So there.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: Re: TI/Casio comment (was Re: <None>)
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:23:20 GMT

In article <2ac36e50.4827.10comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>, akcs.momeni@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ali P. Momeni) writes:
>There are many respods here and many of the people have very valid
>points, BUT if I were you, I wouldn't even THINK about is and just
>chip in 45 more bucks and get an HP48SX (not the HP48S) and just enjoy
>it.  I have HAD a TI-81 and a very good friend of mine, who is a heavy
>duty hacker just got a TI-85, and yet I can't even being to tell you the
>HP's andvantages (there are THOUSANDS).  No matter what you want to do
>with it, the HP48SX is SUPERIOR.
>In another words: the HP48SX is awesome, and the others don't even come
>CLOSE!
>
>P.S.  Reverse Polish Notation is absolutely wonderful and it (after you
>are used to it) makde your life MUCH easier.
>
>***all of this is my opinion only, so there you go!***

	Eh, I don't think so.  HP48SX is a wonderful machine.  However, it's
RPN is kind of hard to get used to, though not impossible.  It's very hard
for anyone except those HP users to look at a HP's program and understand it.
I'd say it would be a little hard to convert stuff if you are very familar
with C, PASCAL, or even BASIC, since you'll have to force yourself thinking
in HP's way.
	Besides, HP doesn't have that much advantages over TI, I'd say it
only has 1/3 to 1/2 more.  While the HP cost at least 2.5 times as the TI.
Meanwhile, there're several built-in features on TI like sovling solutions
for a Matrix which is not availiable on HP (though you can program it, built-
in's are way more convinent)
	Of course, I'll have to admit that TI sucks when you are try to
erase a drawing since you can only erase a point at a time (sucky for
those game funs)  In addition, HP does the Algebraic manuplation which
TI certainly can't do.  TI can't expand it's 28.226k memory and what
I heard so far is Link-85 sucks compare to HP's linking system.
				That is all!
						Ming>