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From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker clowns around
Reply-To: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:08:49 +0000

pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:
>The Nightstalker ducks out to the toilets with a big grin on his face, and
>returns quickly with an asbestos suit from head to toe. He also has that
>flamethrower that he mentioned after his 'transformation'. 

>"A match please Mike."

>Mike looks rather worried.

>"Be careful will you?? I am insured, but...."

>"Relax," smiles The Nightstalker as he lights the flamethrower. The
>flamethrower lights and The Nightstalker proceeds to bathe himself in
>flames. "Oh, ah, this is hot stuff."

>This continues for a while, until The Nightstalker becomes BORED with all
>the flaming. He switches it off, and takes off the helmet.

>"A coke please Mike, I need the feeling. See people, I am flame proof.
>Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!"

"Nah, that's not a flame-thrower" says MonTemplar, as he pulls out a small
object like a spray can, and presses the nozzle...

*FWOOSH!*

The Nightstalker suddenly notices that he is somewhat undressed and a nice
shade of sharcoal-black.

"THIS is a flame-thrower!"

[Remember kids, don't try this at home! These stunts only work in VR]

[Spotted the film reference?]

"Seeing as I'm a good sport... last one in the Hot Tub gets cold water
poured on them! Race ya!" says MonTemplar, as he rips off his outfit in
one quick motion to reveal his trunks and beach towel... *CHARGE!*

>--
> The Nightstalker.....

>Paradox: a truth standing on its head to attract attention.

Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
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From: salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850)
Subject: Re: Unlurking: PIZZA!!
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:27:18 GMT

In article <920724.18233056.022947@USM.CP6> JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE) writes:
>
>>>In Spacey's hands are pepperonis, black olives, and pineapples. She
>>>sprinkles them next to the fresh mushrooms.  Gleefully rubbing her
>>>hands she takes the pizza and brings it to her plate to cut and eat
>>>with a fork and knife, that materializes. She takes the first bite
>>>and blissfully  "mmm's."
>
>>But..Spacey, It's not a pizza without anchovies. { says Telsor }
>
>
>  "Anchovies !? You must mean those things with little eyes ! I don't
> like anchovies on pizza, why use bait for food." Rocky Roccocco
> from The Fire Sign Theater... nemesis of Nick Danger...

SEA speaks up:  "Anchovies?  Yum...just cut the eyes off, you'll never
know the difference.  Bait?  I didn't notice anyone saying anything about
worms...bleah!


Stephanie Alford			.sig line on vacation,
salford@monolith.lrmsc.loral.com  	maybe if you ask nicely
or				 	it'll send you a postcard
lunisea@netcom.com

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From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Subject: Re: Manx and the mob re: Strange Question
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:12:09 GMT

In article <920728.15235716.025875@USM.CP6> JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE) writes:
>
>"Hmm. <grin> There is a lake out in the meadow where the green grass
>grows. So instead of lynching Manx, why not see if he floats instead ?
>Now where have I heard that before ?" DJ.
>
>Oh, I know ! The 'witches are made of wood' bit in Monty Python's
>The Holy Grail !
>
>
  Manx shudders at the thought of getting soaked. "I HATE water!  It's
icky and wet... Do anything else... just don't dunk me."

  Manx snaps his fingers. "I know! You can build a bridge out of me!"

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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: writing Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:46:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.173119.4449@cs.tulane.edu>, pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
>    Oh, the Professor had degrees in both Archaology and computer science.
                                                      ---------------------
>    I don't think he ran the programs himself, I believe he was just
>    informing his class on some research he had read. Jim.

Well, that just shot his credibility all to hell :-).

-StM, who's had to work with too many people with CS degrees.
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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:56:11 GMT

bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder) writes:

>The New Kid peers uncertainly in the sudden light after her dark corner. 
>She clears her throat.
>"Ahem. Yeah, I'm another unlurker(sp?). There seem to be a lot of us lately. 
>In Real Life I'm Bernadette Sacksteder, a summer worker at the local Air 
>Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. I work at a computer help desk, or pretend to 
>anyway.:-)"
>She walks up to the bar, pulling a crumpled bill out of her pocket.
>"Uh, Mike, could I have a Lemon Sling?"
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Bernadette M. Sacksteder       Here comes your father!
>Bsackste@afit.af.mil                -William Shakespeare
>                                            Henry V
>__________________________________________________________________
>You mean somebody actually CARES about my opinions?
>------------------------------------------------------------------ 

"Nice to you.  I guess you are The New Kid on the block.  Or is that The New
Kid in town?  I hope you enjoy your stay here. Welcome to Callahans."

"I am The Golden Gryphon.  Just your average ordinary mythical beast.  Mike
give this hard working (?) young lady her money back.  This one's on me. I
started my professional career as a help desk operator on an Air Force Base.
I worked for CSC on the LONS contract at Griffis AFB, Rome NY.  Glad to have
you aboard."

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:29:14 GMT

In <1992Jul21.033200.28077@ucc.su.OZ.AU> neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Bellman) writes:

>The whole fun of histrory is trying to decide what actually happened,
>and generally the more documented a period is, the more arguements there
>will be.

>While I am here I might at least say 2 things
>a) Hi to Didi, Kitten, Spacey Nick and everybody else I know here

>b) As a committed christian my own view about whether the bible says
>Pi is Three is "who gives a fuck" if you will pardon the language


"hiiiiiiiiiiiii, bellman!!!!!!!!!  well said, my man!"  kitten giggles
and tinkles bellman's bell ! }:).


--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

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From: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: A Night in the Hills of West Virginia
Reply-To: dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:32:34 GMT


-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
no. 6439789 filed 19.26.11  wed 29 jul 1992
from dgil
to   locun
subj Re: A Night in the Hills of West Virginia
ref  6423280

     My feeling is that the most damaging aspect of the depiction of violence
in movies and TV is its *unrealistic* quality.  The notion that the universe
consists of a few villains with demoniacal power, a few virtually-invincible
heroes, and a supporting cast of irredeemable zombies who collapse and die if a
single shot is fired in their general direction ... well, the world don't work
that way.  In the real world, hails of gunfire often produce surprisingly few
deaths.  Victims are rarely sorted by relative guilt or innocence, or by the
importance of the roles they play in their own or others' lives.
     The portrayal of most of humanity as subhuman vermin to be exterminated
with little effort and no remorse encourages the habits of thought necessary to
the perpetration of random mass violence.  That's a substantially weaker link
than saying it *causes* violence; I'd call it a 'force multiplier' analog,
amplifying the tendency for more direct causes to bear fruit.
     The remainder are usually portrayed as (a) heroes and their peers, who are
above merely human concerns like morality or law, and (b) superhuman villains,
against whom the ends justify any and all means on the part of the heroes.
Some of you may recognize this as the essence of Romanticism, as preached by
Ayn Rand and as critiqued by Robin Morgan; I recognize its appeal but find that
I must classify it as a dangerous and escapist fantasy.

     In brief, my objection is not, necessarily, to the *amount* of violence in
entertainment, but to the unrealistic consequences portrayed (or, often,
totally absent) there.  An audience accurately educated about violence becomes,
IMHO, more competent to determine if and when recourse to violence is
"appropriate".
                                      Mentor the Sage
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From: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:52:36 GMT

	"Actually, Alfvaen," Grant says, "I got that speech out of
a short story entitled 'Slave Girls of the Planet Phallacio 2.'
(Yes, there was a 1,3 and 4 as well)  It was a college thing.  One
does weird things in college.

	"Anyway, SGOTPP was mostly just a joke the first time out
as the editors of the campus SF mag said they couldn't bitch about
the bad stories during lunch because the authors might be around, so
a friend and I wrote this putrid story (SGOTPP), and sent it off
to them to get their reaction.

	"I won't tell you how the sequels came about as Rachel looks
like she's going to kill me for mentioning this thing again."

	Grant ducks as Rachel throws a basketful of peanuts
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From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Re: A return
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:56:11 GMT

>Dirbze looks up, a little confused...
>"Ten Celsius is freezing???  I thought Zero Celsius was freezing!!

Danger Mouse gives Dirbze a (pseudo-)critical glare. "Technically, yes.
But I have the extra authority of Shonias behind me, who will insist,
quite vocally and incontrovertibly, when she steps outside and the
temperature is anything less than about 16 Celcius, that it is, indeed,
_freezing_!

"I don't know about you, but I'm not going to argue with someone who is
within RL tickling range and knows exactly where she can get the best
effect..."

>>>"the BEST way to feel is WITH YOUR HANDS....!"
>Indeed!  Just watch what you touch... especially if it's _cold_!

"Why, Dirbze..."

- Danger Mouse.
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: A return
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:21:18 GMT



kitten notices that her typing has gone to hell....please ignore ANY
typos in anything posted today!

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

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From: sjane@bmers248.bnr.ca (sjs)
Subject: Re: Stereotypes? Objectifying? thoughts..
Keywords: Perceiving, and then recognizing.. tainted by experience..? don't know..
Organization: Irrelevant, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:02:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.233147.20376@ucc.su.OZ.AU> ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias) writes:
>That is something I have wonderd about before. Why is it that some people seem
>to relate better to the opposite sex? 
>
I always figured that it's all a matter of what you are used to.  I grew up
playing with boys & I went in to Engineering, which is mostly guys & I work in
an Engineering company, which is almost all male.  I'm not sure that I know
how to relate to other women any more! :) :)

>I think that as long as you are aware of the stereotypes that you employ, 
>and you try to compensate for them, then you have done pretty well. 

I find that really tough:  "Am I compensating enough?  Too much?"

>Stereotypes
>can be useful. We aren't capable of getting to know everyone on an individual
>basis, so stereotypes can be helpful guidelines. The main thing is that you
>don't allow the stereotypes to influence you observation. 
 
I'm not sure that I can prevent their influence.  I'd rather not have them
at all and be forced to deal with each person as an individual.  Unfortunately,
I'm stuck with them and the difficulty of finding the middle line between 
positive and negative prejudice.

sjs
--
It's not irrelevant; it's a hippopotamus.   sjane@BNR.CA
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From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Subject: Anti-freeze
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:58:52 GMT


   Manx HAS to put his two cents in on the temperature
debate.

   "Look, DM, the simple fact is, that because of internal
heating, and salt content in the blood, human beings do
not freeze until below -50 C.  Anything above that is due
to local Gulf Stream conditions, and favorable actions of
the weather gods.  You just have an environmental disposition
towards displeasure when the temperature falls below your
body temp.  In other words, you're a Temperature-Wimp!"

   Manx pulls out his "Official Michigan Birth Certificate",
and flips it over to show the little note "May not donate
blood because of high Anti-freeze content."

   Aloysious, meanwhile, thinks the whole conversation is
silly, because no matter what temperature you CAN tolerate,
it's much more fun to curl up in front of a nice fireplace,
even if there is the occasional thrown glass.
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From: pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations I/O Operator
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1020]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:17:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.192941.17729@news.iastate.edu>, SG.MML@isumvs.iastate.edu (M. Loughin) writes:
|> Thanks, kitten, I need a hug today!!!!!!!!!!!!

    <Hug!> DJ.
-- 
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:11:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.173051.22990@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
>"This is not StM's problem with the whole thing.  His problem is that some
>people take the whole bible to be completely true.  Nightstalker is defending
>the bible in a general way, and StM is attacking a group of people who look at
>the bible in a specific way, and use it to circumscribe their thinking, and
>try to use it to circumscribe the thinking of others.  (This is your point,
>isn't it, StM?)

That's exactly my point, along with the point that some people take some parts
of the Bible to be literally true, while saying that other parts aren't, then
use the parts they claim to be literally true as if they were incontrovertible
evidence.
From: randolph@cognito.cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A Night in the Hills of West Virginia
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:41:49
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: Cathy Ridings's message of Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 15:45:48 EDT

"Kaitlin, you raise a serious question, and one I've recently been
thinking about.  My answer is a qualified yes; violence in TV and film
can sometimes encourage people who are in an environment which
otherwise encourages violence.  A well-loved child of peaceful parents
in a peaceful environment isn't likely to become a violent person
because of TV violence, but someone in a rotten environment could
learn some violence from television.

"Does this help address your concern?"

     |\/|\/|
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| | ||  | || | ||  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph
| | ||  | || | ||  randolph@ebay.sun.com
| | ||  | || | ||  Mountain View, California, North America, Earth
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From: jhitch@crash.cts.com (Jeffrey Hitchin)
Subject: Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:45:31 GMT

	Here we go again.  At least we're having a nice discussion and
not a flamefest.  YAY! :)

	Anyway, I follow exactly what StM said.  I DO NOT force people
to not read the Bible.  I don't encourage it either.  I have indeed
read the Bible and studied the Bible and drawn my own conclusion from
the Bible.  I rejected what the Bible said because I have a mind
that demands order and proof.  If God could make women barren because
they were unfaithful, why isn't he doing it now?  If God has demanded
utmost piety in the clergy, why aren't the impious clergy being struck
down?  (Especially the ones who perpetrate homosexual sex crimes, which
the Bible seems to frown on a lot.)  The supposedly pious damn one
person's sins even though they've committed the same ones without remorse.

	To me, that makes little sense.  I dislike hypocritical religious
types much in the same way that I hate scientists who fudge their data.
They're both lying about who they are.

	Now, to get back to the evolution/creationism debate, I don't
think that evolution is the "easy way" of looking at things.  You ahve
ahem, have to accept many things.  For creationism, you have to accept
only one, "God created everything."  Okay, fine.

	Which one is valid?  I can't say that.  Maybe if I have an
out-of-body experience while near death and I meet God, I'll ask him,
then when I come back, I'll tell you, but before that, It's my mind,
my life, and I'll believe what I want to.

	But I will never try to force that belief on anybody.  When I
try to explain my beliefs on anything when asked, and am then contradicted
with "But the Bible says different," I shake my head and go away since
there is no way I can continue the discussion rationally without
getting into a long useless debate on religion.

	For me, however, it all boils down to "Is the Bible correct?"
Well, I can say with pride that I have read the Bible, and I have
rejected the Bible as true when it comes to MY life as it is my
free choice as an American citizen.  If you think the Bible is correct
and that it is irrefutable, good for you.  You have made a choice as
well.  We both have to live with our choices, and in this case, I
can live with mine.  
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From: salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850)
Subject: Re: SEA takes a ride
Keywords:  Wheeee!!!
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:49:13 GMT

In article <920722.14413976.019925@USM.CP6> 
JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE) writes:
>
>"SEA ! Lets go driving in the Spider ! I have extra powerful speakers
>so they can, and will, handle a loud version of _Radar Love_ !" DJ.
>
"Yippeee!"  SEA grabs her goggles and her gloves..."Crank it up and
let's motorvate!"


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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Responsibilities of Artists (was Re: Pornography and Playboy)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 20:18:23 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Jul25.165812.29009@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>	"Not at all.  To take your example, if an artist feels that
>rape is wrong, that doesn't mean that it's wrong to include a rape
>scene in a work of art.  Nor does it mean that the villain must be
>caught and punished inevitably.  It's even possible for a sufficiently
>good artist to portray the character as ultimately sympathetic or good
>(though it would be a hell of a challenge).  But it should be clear
>that the character is sympathetic or good _in spite_ of being a
>rapist, rather than because of it, or as if it didn't matter.  This
>isn't something that needs to be done in an explicit or heavy-handed
>manner, but if rape is treated as a good or irrelevant part of the
>character's makeup, _then_ I think the artist is doing something
>wrong."

Why?  What is wrong with taking a character who loves to rape others,
who glories in the feeling of power it gives them, and creating a piece
of art that almost allows us to live those feelings?  If the character
believes that rape is good, why shouldn't an artist produce a work that
completely and totally follows the character's viewpoint?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
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