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From: todd@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Todd Poynor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP1000/RTE question: How to read data to DOS/UNIX?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:42:36 GMT
Organization: HP DSO Chair-Surf City

Hello, Dave,

>The format of the data is unkown, and the format of the diskette is sparsely
>described in the RTE-A manual that came with the system.
>
>o Is there any way to hook a PC up to the HP1000 and simply capture
>  an ASCII representation of the data files with a terminal emulator?

If the 1000 has a MUX card and the MONITOR utility, then either AdvanceLink
or Reflections (from Walker, Richer, and Quinn, Inc.) may be used on the PC
to transfer files over RS-232 lines.  A program named XMODEM may be used
instead of MONITOR, but is unlikely to already be present on your system.  It
is available from INTEREX, the HP computer users group.

In the very remote possibility that you have a LAN card and NS/1000 software
on the 1000, then the TELNET and FTP services may be available.

>o Is there a program out there that will read RTE formatted disks
>  (which are on 3.5" high-density diskettes) from a PC under DOS?

If the LIF (Logical Interchange Format) utility is available on the 1000,
then software is available which will read it on DOS.  The company which
sells the DOS software is located in Lake Oswgeo, Illinois, and is named
something like Oswgeo Software.

If any of these sound possible to you, mail me for more info.  Much luck!


"I still spell real time R-T-E"  Todd

Not a statement, official or otherwise, of the Hewlett-Packard Company (who
spell real time differently these days).
From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:43:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Shared memory in 6.5
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> 
> |> Just out of curiousity, if you have no other processes attaching the
> |> segment, why are you using shared memory?
> 
> 	Thanks for the info.  What I mean by no other processes attached
> is that there was no process attached to the segment. After shmctl(IPC_RMID),
> no other process will be able to get the segment.

I still don't understand your situation clearly. Even if multiple
processes need to attach the segment, depending on your application,
you can have the last process that needs to attach it call
shmctl(IPC_RMID).  Sorry, but that's the best you can do; Shared
memory segments are *meant* to stick around after processes die,
and you must remove them explicitly.

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jvp@vlsi1.ee.iastate.edu (James E. Van Peursem)
Subject: Re: Backup to DAT over net
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:31:28 GMT

In <HARDY.92Jul23130548@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:

>Your reply-to line made my reply to you bounce;
>please send me your correct e-mail address for a suggestion.

  I had problems with the e-mail bounce too.  I would like to know
the solution also.  Could you post your suggestion please?

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jim Van Peursem - Ph.D. Student - Ham Radio -> KE0PH          |
| System Administrator - Digital Systems Design Lab             |
| Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering |
| Iowa State University - Ames, IA 50011                        |
| internet - jvp@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu                           |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: No more graphics (Was: Re: diskless server advice)
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:01:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> Larry> This will definitely not happen! I for one would like to see 10.0 be
> Larry> a unified release with seamless functionality (except for graphics
> Larry> which I don't think will ever be supported on the s800 again).
> 
> I was hoping someone would ask, but ...  What exactly is meant by "no more
> graphics"?  Starbase?  Hardware?  X clients?  X servers?

No support for the local crt displays.
No terminal emulator on local crt displays.
No Starbase on local crt displays.
No X server on local crt displays.

The Starbase library still works to other devices such as
terminals, plotters, and _remote_ X servers such as X terminals.

X clients still work to _remote_ X servers such as X terminals.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Wong Siu To)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: "source" on HP-UX
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:08:28 GMT
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong

Hi all,

Does anyone know if HP-UX the "source" command (or equivalent) ?

Thanks in advance !

Regards,

-- 
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Computer Services Centre               Internet: a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk
The Chinese Univsersity of Hong Kong             st@csc.mgate1.cuhk.hk 
From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:58:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Writing a non-disc SCSI device driver for HP 700 (Snake)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


> Can anyone out there point to to information that would allow me
> to write a non-disc SCSI driver (printers, scanners in particular)
> for HP-UX on a Snake?  I have checked all the documentation we have
> for our 710 and can't find anything other than dire warnings against
> using unsupported equipment.

In many cases, you can communicate with your device adequately using
scsi ioctl's. These allow you to send raw scsi commands to a target
without (much) interference from the disk driver. At the risk of
reducing my job security (;-) I am posting an example program that
you should be able to use to talk to your printer/scanner/whatever.

> Is there a Device Driver manual somewhere that I have missed?

No. There will undoubtedly be some responses to your message telling
you about the HPUX Driver Development Guide, but you should ignore
them. The DDG contains absotively no information on SCSI!

Rob

/*
 * Example SCSI ioctl program
 *
 * Use scsi disk driver (major 47)
 *
 */

/*
 *  This program is the creation of Rob Gardner, and is not for
 *  sale, trade, or barter. It may not be copied for any reason.
 *  It may not even be examined, and as a matter of fact, it is
 *  forbidden for human eyes to see this program. You are probably
 *  violating this decree right now. This program is probably the
 *  property of Hewlett-Packard, since they own me and everything
 *  I have ever done. May the Source be with you.
 */


#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/scsi.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>

struct scsi_cmd_parms scsi_inquiry = {
	6, 1, 5000,
	0x12, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xff, 0x00
};

main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
    int eid, flag = 1, ret;
    unsigned char buffer[256];

    if (argc < 2) 
    {
	fprintf(stderr, "usage: %s device\n", argv[0]);
	exit(1);
    }
    
    eid = open(argv[1], O_RDWR | O_NDELAY);
    if (eid < 0) 
    {
	perror("open");
	exit(2);
    }

    printf("-->Opened Succesfully eid = %d\n",eid);	

    ret = ioctl(eid, SIOC_CMD_MODE, &flag); 
    if (ret < 0) 
    {
	perror("setting command mode");
	exit(3);
    }
    
    ioctl(eid, SIOC_SET_CMD, &scsi_inquiry);
    
    ret = read(eid, buffer, 256);
    if (ret < 0) 
    {
	perror("inquiry");
	printf("ret = %d\n", ret);
	do_sense(eid);
    }
    else 
    {
	struct inquiry *i = (struct inquiry *) buffer;
	printf("%s\n", i->vendor_id);
    }
    close(eid);
}


do_sense(eid)
int eid;
{
    char buffer[256];
    int ret;
    union sense_data *foo = (union sense_data *) buffer;

    if (ioctl(eid, SIOC_XSENSE, buffer) < 0) {
	perror("request sense");
	printf("ret = %d\n", ret);
	return;
    }
    printf("*error code = %d\n", buffer[0] & 0xf);
    printf("*sense key = %d\n", buffer[2] & 0xf);
    printf("*additional sense byte = 0x%x\n", buffer[8]);
    exit(42);
}
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:8741 comp.periphs.printers:2265
From: seymour@milton.u.washington.edu (Richard Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: HP 710 to HP Color Deskwriter and IBM 10 Laser... how?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:25:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

We have two HP 710's, both 19" 1280x1024 8-plane color beasties.
We are running HP-UX 8.07.

We'd like to hook up an HP Color DeskWriter (or DeskJet, whichever is
more appropriate) to one of them to capture screen dumps and do program-
 driven color plots.

Is this realistically feasible?  Downright easy?
Do you (oh, cumulative net.wisdom) recommend the parallel port? serial?
Any other questions i'm forgetting to ask?

We're also planning on a 600x600 dpi 8.5x11" Postscript laser printer.
at the moment we're investigating the IBM/Lexmark 4029 series.
 (with 5mb memory and their Postscript plug-in, it'll allegedly do 600x600,
  for a list price of about $5400... we're hoping for a substantial educational
 discount)(but i hope we're not going to get a substantial education ;-)...
I noticed a note on comp.sys.hp that the parallel port uses a different
 "sense" of the "strobe/data available" line on its parallel port.
Is this true? is it a problem with either the DeskWriter or proposed printer?

Summaries, rumors and from-the-field results will be posted...
thanks
--dick
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP login very slow
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <1992Jul28.203022.16348@ctp.com> jmay@ctp.com (Jason May) writes:
>
>An odd problem has recently showed up on our 847 (HPUX 8.02) and 720 (HPUX
>8.07) systems.
>
>For about the last week or so, all logins (through telnet, rlogin, or at
>the console) have been very slow.  The 'login:' and 'password:' prompts
>come up right away, ....
...
>Has anyone seen these symptoms before?  Any assistance is greatly
>appreciated.

Ths appears to be caused by the quota checking.  We suffer from this
a lot.  If you don't want or need quota checking, type 
'chmod -x /usr/bin/quota' and see if you don't cut 5 minutes or so off
your login time.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: fred@cv.ruu.nl (Fred Appelman)
Subject: Message for randyj%bcs800@mathcs.emory.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:58:18 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

I tries to add you to the mailinglist, but your maild adress
is not valid. (according to emory.mathcs.emory.edu)

Fred
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: COBOL on S800 8.x?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:01:34 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I need quick recommendations on COBOL compilers for Series 800 systems running
HPUX 8.x.  What can people tell me about HP's COBOL products:

	B2433A	COBOL/HPUX Developer Package
	B2434A	COBOL/HPUX Compiler
	B2435A	COBOL/HPUX Run-time System

Just what does the Developer Package include?  Is the Run-time System needed if
you buy the compiler?

What about non-HP COBOL compilers?  MicroFocus?  Any others?
-- 
Mark Bixby                         Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
"You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jeff@dsndata.uucp (Jeff Minnig)
Subject: Re: HP9000/400 and long file names
Organization: Design Data
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:44:49 GMT

In article <5570890@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com> chuckc@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Chuck Cairns) writes:

> From: chuckc@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Chuck Cairns)
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:08:12 GMT
> Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
> Path: dsndata!backbone!unlinfo.unl.edu!wupost!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!hppad.waterloo.hp.com!hppad!hpfcso!hpfcdc!chuckc
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
> References: <1992Jul21.065022.29379@bohra.cpg.oz.au>
> Lines: 9
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Be sure to be single user, and kill EVERYTHING possible before doing
> a convertfs on a root filesystem. No network connection, no X, nothing.
> You don't want ANY I/O to the system disk while it's being labotomized.
> Also follow the directions carefully. 
> 
> Regards,
> cc

I change inittab so the machine comes up in single user mode and
then 'shutdown -r -y 0' to single user mode before running convertfs.

Haven't crashed a file system yet and I've done about 10 of these.

Of course, on a 700, you can just isl into single user mode to begin
with.

Wish I could do that on a 425...


-jeff-

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1033 'O' St.  Suite 324         | {hpfcla,sparky}!dsndata!jeff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aggarwal@tigger.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Subject: Exabyte 8mm on HP-3000 running MPE/IX
Summary: How to connect exabyte 8mm to HP3000/957 running MPE/IX
Originator: aggarwal@r2d2.jvnc.net
Keywords: exabyte, mpe
Organization: JvNCnet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:40:04 GMT

Hi,

This might be the wrong newsgroup to ask, but its my best and last
resort...

A friend of mine has an HP 3000/957 running HP's proprietery operating
system called MPE/IX. I have recently bought an Exabyte 8mm 5GB tape
drive, and wanted to hook the drive up to the system's SCSI port.

Can anyone out there in HP land tell me how to configure this drive
onto the HP ? Thanks a ton,, and please email replies to me also.

	-vikas
	vikas@jvnc.net (..!rutgers!jvncnet!vikas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aharon@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Aharon Friedman)
Subject: Problem with C++ or the loader
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:58:17 GMT

I am trying to link a c++ code I am getting the following message:

ld: initialized data space not big enough for COMM declaration of gain

Where gain is a variable in one of the objects. An executable is
generated but it is sometimes aborted for no apparan reason.

Aharon Friedman (aharon@bnl.gov)
From: mobej@thaad-1g%hac2arpa.hac.com (Mario Obejas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: windows unexpectedly dying - why and how to fix it ? (flame)
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:46:50 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes:
: philipp@ulysse.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) writes:
: 
: >Subject: Re: windows unexpectedly dying - why and how to fix it ? (flame)
: 								    =====
: 
:   Perhaps a little more RTFM and a little less flaming is in order? :
: 

Very elegantly put.

: Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center

--
Mario Obejas    mobej@thaad-1g.hac.com    (714) 732 2954
                mobej@thaad-1g@hac2arpa.hac.com   if the above doesn't work
Hughes Ground Systems Group, P.O. Box 3310, Fullerton, CA 92634

"THAAD - It would have been a great contract to work on"
My own depressed thoughts and not indicative of an official comment.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: allen@arcturus.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Sharon Allen)
Subject: Gen of 7906 Disks on HP1000 Systems
Keywords: 7906,HP1000
Organization: Rockwell International
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:33:27 GMT


Recently, a reply to a question about the HP 7906 disc drive stated that the
HP1000 did not allow new discs to be generated into the system.  Both RTE-IVB and RTE-6/VM operating systems allowed the system generation to be modified.
This process required changing the operating system's answer file and then
running the generation program (RT4GN or RT6GN) to create the operating 
system's executable file (like vmunix on Sun systems).  Then this executable
program is SWTCH'ed in to the target disc.  

Unfortunately, when doing it this way, you also have to reload any utilities 
you want customarily saved to the system logical units.  In the days of
RTE-IVB and RTE-6/VM, the system had to reside on a File Manager (FMGR)
configured logical unit.

I believe the best contacts for information on the HP 7906 disc drive 
and how feasible it would be to install on a current system would be
the following people:

    Byran McVay (Hewlett Packard consultant)     614-891-3344
    John Oury   (Hewlett Packard Service Rep.)   714-758-5850

Byran McVay used to teach the RTE-6/VM System Management Course at HP's Anaheim educational facility.  He is very familiar with the older MAC and CS80
drives and will be of great help.

John Oury still maintains HP 1000 systems running RTE-IVB and RTE-6/VM
operating systems.  He should be able to tell if the 7906 disc drives
are still for sale.  I know that the HP 1000s that use those drives are
not going to be supported by HP beyond 1999.

Take into account that 7906 drives DO crash, once every six months would
be a fair estimate, I think.  Also, they don't have much capacity 
compared to the disc subsystems available today.  

Sharon Allen
CURRENT HP 1000 USER
Rockwell International
From: dhepner@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Dan Hepner)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:03:35 GMT
Subject: Re: HP's Disk Array Implementation
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)

>I hope to gain space for large file collections.  Right now, we have
>our files spread across several disks, and all those soft links are
>hard to maintain properly.  Talk about spaghetti linking! :-)  Also,
>faster file access is always important for such large files.  Am I
>heading into a trap for the unwary?

No, there's no trap. However, while we expect all new HP-UX to have 
4GB filesystems in the near future, but one cannot assume this about 
existing HP-UX filesystems.

Dan Hepner

Not a statement of the Hewlett-Packard Company.
From: billb@hpfcse.HP.COM (Bill Bennett)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:46:11 GMT
Subject: Re: File questions
Organization: Hewlett Packard Co.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:

    |>   I'd love to free up the space these are taking but will deleting
    |> them cause me unforseen problems?  Are there other things that HP
    |> provided initially that folks commonly remove for space reasons?
    |>   One other thing, I heard HP provides a CD with the man pages 
                                     ^^^^^^^^
                                     *offers for sale*
    |> available on it to free up that space.  Is there any truth to this?

>    You're probably talking about LaserROM; it not only has man pages but
>    the (almost) full documentation set.

From my (possibly outdated) Pricing and Config Guide:

	B2355A  Series 700 HP-UX 8.x Documentation (aka LaserROM)
        opt 0BC Doc on CD-ROM.  Includes 1-user LTU              US$795

Beginning with the July '92 CD, there is a completely new GUI for the
product which really makes it a pleasure to use.

I believe a s/w subscription is also needed if you would like to receive
monthly updates of the doc (NOT O/S, it's separate) CD's.


Bill Bennett   VAB Consulting East  web@apollo.hp.com  [t|508]-436-4475
*Not a statement of Hewlett-Packard Company, just my own Humble Opinion.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: simon@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (simon shields)
Subject: adjustable arrays 720's f77
Summary: adjustable arrays in f77 on 720's ?
Keywords: f77,adjustable arrays,compatibility problems
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:31:58 GMT


Hi

I am having problems compiling fortran 77 programs I wrote on an 800
series that made use of adjustable arrays. I won't compile on the
720's we have. 

The machine I'm using is
HP-UX giaec A.08.07 A 9000/720 2001133857

The f77 command I'm using is
f77 +E3 -w -O +E6 -o gas gas.f /usr/local/lib/libncarg.a /usr/local/lib/libncarg_gks.a /usr/local/lib/libncarg_loc.a
gas.f:
   MAIN gas:
   compberthelotorwaals:
   plotberthelotsorwaals:
   determine:
   graph:
Declaration error on/above line 262 of gas.f;  for xdra; adjustable dimension on non-argument
Declaration error on/above line 262 of gas.f;  for ydra; adjustable dimension on non-argument
Declaration error on/above line 262 of gas.f;  for tr; adjustable dimension on non-argument
   fillthearray:
   graphthearray:
   check:
   bndary:
   titles:
   agchil:
   agchax:
   agchcu:
   rtoa:
   lj:
   nonb:
   strlen:
   getresp:
   getcoords:
   checkforerrors:
   upshift:
   doplt:
   pltmenu:
   processpltmenuselection:
   helponpltcmds:

f77: Error.  No assembly.
f77: Errors detected, no link

The routine producing the problem is 



      SUBROUTINE graph (coords, curves, fname)
      EXTERNAL fill the array
      INTEGER coords, curves
      LOGICAL fill the array
      CHARACTER fname*(*)
-->>> REAL xdra (coords,curves), ydra (coords, curves),tr(curves)

      IF (fill the array (xdra, ydra,tr, coords, curves, fname)) THEN
          CALL graph the array (xdra, ydra,tr, coords, curves, fname)
          CALL do plt
      ELSE
          PRINT *,"Couldn't fill the array so graph was NOT done !!"
          PRINT *,"Sorry about that !!"
      ENDIF
      RETURN
      END

Any help sincerely appreciated. Results will be reposted.

Thanks.

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:8729 comp.unix.questions:9582
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: HP MPE NetIPC <-> BSD sockets? (solved)
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:36:25 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I'd like to thank those who posted replies to my questions.  All my questions
have been answered.  Now all we have to do is get ThinLan/XL ordered, shipped,
and installed. :-)
-- 
Mark Bixby                         Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
"You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mah@parrot.prv.univie.ac.at (Michael Haberler)
Subject: Re: DAT drive on 835, help please
Reply-To: mah@ic.co.at
Organization: Vienna University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:15:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.121536.8546@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk>, markd@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Mark Damerell) writes:
|> We have: a H-P 9000/835, HP-UX 8.0, a SCSI card, and no adequate backup
|> device. We also have a SCSI DAT cartridge drive (H-P model C1520A) and I
|> wanted to attach it to the 835. Granted that the C1520A is not on the list
|> of officially-supported devices, but I dont see the point of having a SCSI
|> standard if conforming devices cannot communicate.

In our case the `conforming host' will be a Sun to which we hook up the
HP DAT tape to back up a HP 845. The latter of course has a SCSI I/F.

I wonder when HP will finally get its act together on this one. It's
slowly getting ridiculous.


-michael
-- 
Michael Haberler 		mah@ic.co.at
A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Mariahilferstrasse 126
Tel: +43 (1) 961-679 (voice & fax) D-Netz/Cell Tel: +43 (663) 811-056
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp