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From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: LOSERS!!!
Summary: IF YOU WANT TO DIE IN AN EARTHQUAKE, COME HERE!!!
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:18:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


THE DODGERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE RAMS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE RAIDERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE KINGS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE LAKERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE GIANTS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE 49ERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE A'S SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE PADRES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND CALIFORNIA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



THE YANKEES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE METS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE NEW YORK GIANTS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE BRAVES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW YORK!!!!!    NEW YORK!!!!!
(sung to the Frank Sinatra tune...)

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: "It's the rice"
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:45:15 GMT

In article <01050166.ambl1c@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us> joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us writes:
>
>Personally, I don't find Bud all that terrible.  As Fred Eckhardt
>says, it's a fine example of the brewer's "craft."  It's also pretty
>good for rinsing greasy foods out of your mouth.  But now I've got 10
>cases of homebrew sitting here in my apartment and haven't had cause
>to chug a Bud in the past year or two ...
>
Well, it's not all *that* terrible if compared with its quality and
taste competitors.  It should be placed in the end of the beer case
with the likes of Buckhorn, Rhinelander, Regal Select, BEER, Meister-
Bra"u, (insert-your-regional-swill-here) and Schmidt.  In that
company, it is not bad.  But I can get a sixer of Rainier Ale for
less than a sixer of Bud, and in the words of the Archie Bunker
look-alike in an old Heidelberg commercial, "I ain't payin' the
sallary of some washed-up athletic!"

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Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt)
Subject: Re: Beer/Brewing Periodicals?
Organization: Telematics Intl., Inc.; Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:28:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.195737.29342@ncsu.edu> emeeks@unity.ncsu.edu (Edward Meeks) writes:
>Could anyone give me some pointers as to what beer/brewing related
>periodicals are available, other than _Zymurgy_ (and HBD :)? Is there a
>brewing industry rag?
>

"All About Beer" is a bimonthly, runs about 64 pages per issue.  Contents
include columns by Michael Jackson and Fred Eckhardt, reviews of beer,
pubs/brewpubs, and books, industry news, some homebrew stuff, stories
about beers by type or country of origin, and reports about new (or newly
widely marketted) beers and breweries (these latter often seem to be PR
flackery from the breweries themselves, the rest seems more legit).  A
bit too much coverage of Budmilloors and their ilk, and of Mexican and
Canadian pisswater beers (probably due to their advertising), but
generally not too bad.

Subscriptions are $20 US, $30 Mex/Can, $48 Elsewhere
Bozak Publishing Co
4764 Galicia Way
Oceanside, CA 92056-9964

They also publish a "mini-magazine" called "Suds 'n Stuff", which I believe
is largely industry news; I've only seen 1 copy of this (a couple of years
ago), so I can't really comment on it.

ted


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Ted Goldblatt    ted@telematics.com     (305) 351-4367
    Telematics Intl., Inc.   Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: cmhaar@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Haar)
Subject: A Hoppy Porter
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:39:12 GMT

In article <Bt7M91.8B9@pix.com>, hsu@pix.com (Dagwood Splits the Atom)
wrote:

(re: Sierra Nevada)

> It never fails to amaze me how many hops they use, considering their
> popularity.  Like drinking a mouthful of Cascade (no, not the detergent).

I was particularly impressed with the hoppiness of Sierra Nevada's Porter. 
I almost thought there was something wrong with the beer the first time I
tried it.

Then recently I got a six of Anchor Porter.  Totally different effect, I
found it to be more like a nice, malty stout (which is what I thought
porters were supposed to be in the first place).

I enjoyed both beers, but it seemed strange that they were both considered
porters.

cmh
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,)
Subject: Re: Formaldehyde in Beer
Reply-To: jimv@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:23:37 GMT

In article 28606@leland.Stanford.EDU, mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:
>>
> 			pV=nRT!

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, you just stimulated a section of my brain cells that hasn't been
heard from since Physics 101 back in.........1983?    Don't do that!  8)

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From: chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Name that Beer
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:29:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

the only Scottish beer that comes to mind is Belhaven, but I don't remember any
towers on the bottle...

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Mass market beers: any (really) good ones?
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:17:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.042851.18033@telematics.com> ted@telematics.com
(Ted "The Terminator" Goldblatt) writes:

>My question is: does anyone have a recommendation for a
>mass market beer (anywhere in the world) that would be
>considered really good beer.  Not "OK on a hot day", not
>"better than Bud", but _really_ good.  What is mass market
>is a judgement call; it's up to you.
>

My Irish friends will probably flame me for this, but I think
Smithwick's qualifies as a mass-market beer in Ireland, and I think
it's GREAT.  Definitely one of my favourite brews in the world.  Of
course, that's not going to change your drinking habits is it, since
you can't even get it here...
But for that matter, in Ireland Guinness is about as mass-market you
can get, and -it's- God's own beer...

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       Kyle Wohlmut    -  want?' 'Information.' 'Whose side are you on?'
kyle@csli.stanford.edu / 'That would be telling.' 'You won't get it.'
       Rocking Pig     - 'By hook or by crook, we will.' 'Who are you?'
       Enterprises    / 'The new Number Two.' 'Who is Number One?'
                       -            'You are, Number 6.'
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From: dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: Mass market beers: any (really) good ones?
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:30:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.183853.22908@telematics.com> ted@telematics.com (Ted  
Goldblatt) writes:

> To make this article worthy of a Distribution: world (:-)), what is
> the availability of the better US brews elsewhere in the world?  By
> better, I mean Sam Adam's products, Anchor products, Sierra Nevada
> products, or anything from "real" micros.  _Nothing_ from A-B,
> Strohs, Coors, etc. would count, unless they are sending better
> beer there than they sell here :-).

When I visited Acapulco, there was your standard garden variety Coors,  
Budweiser and Miller, in both cans and bottles, with the labels in English.  No  
Michelob, Whatever Lite, or anything like that.  The only other "foreign" beers  
that I saw was Heinekin and Beck's.  Nothing else, =even in the bigger  
supermarkets and bars.

Incidentally, I dodn't see any brands of Mexican beer down there that you don't  
have in the United States, with the exception or Corona Barril.  I did like  
Carta Blanca with the bottom indented cap-puller bottles, though ... :) 


--
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From: "nick zentena" <nick.zentena@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: lambics, geuze (re: f
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:24:49 EST
Reply-To: "nick zentena" <nick.zentena@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

MN>subject: Lambics, Geuze (Re: Fruit Beers)


MN>Does anyone have information on what quantity of peaches I should be
MN>used to brew a typical 5 gallon batch?  Should the peaches be peeled,
MN>crushed, or what?

        Pulling out my now well thumbed copy of Guinards
        Lambic. He says. Actually he doesn't say. He says
        that most breweries use concentrates instead of
        peaches. I guess you could use a the amount for
        cherries if you were leaving in the pits or
        rasperries if you weren't. 10lbs for cherries 8.5
        for rasp.

MN>Has anybody tried this, and what has been their results?  FWIW, it has
MN>been my experience that Lindeman's Peche has been far supierior to their
MN>Kriek, but that is only my opinion.


        If everything comes together I'll be making a lambic
        base either tuesday or Wed for a kriek and a
        frambroise. I'll tell you how it comes out this time
        next year.
        Nick
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: ag099@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathan Foster)
Subject: Warsteiner
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:09:23 GMT


    If WARSTEINER beer ever makes it to the states, try it, you
will become hooked.
-- 
Jonathan Foster
(ag099)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario s
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:46:42 GMT

zen@hophead (Nick Zentena) writes:

>schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

>> 2) Labatt's and Molsons have so much influence in the Canadian market
>>    that *their* prices become the defacto standard. Beer prices in
>>    Canada are already outrageous compared the US [Even compared to
>>    really tasty imports] We don't need the price rising just because
>>    Ontario had a cool summer!
>> 

>        Why did the prices go up? I can't see any relation
>        between the BC market and Ontario unless we are
>        supporting you. 

It was announced in the media that prices were going up 2.5%
because of the wet Ontario summer. Since I don't drink the stuff
I haven't checked the prices.


>        You state that imports are cheaper? 

What I said was that import beer in the US is cheaper than domestic
beer in Canada. I can go down to Bellingham and pay 6.95 US
for a jug of imported Paulaner Salvator, a little over three mugs
worth, while I can pay anywhere from 5 - 7 $ Canadian for a mug
of import draft. 

Thats insane! It doesn't cost any more to get beer to Vancouver 
than it does to get to Bellingham. 

We are getting ripped off in Canada!

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Best Indutrial Beer
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:25:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.005941.12548@fps.com> bruceh@fps.com (Bruce T. Hill) writes:
Deletions...
>              sometimes I am actually forced to buy "Industrial"
>beer for consumption.  You know, the watery stuff put out by Budweiser,
>Miller, or Coors.  My question is simple:  What widely available beer
>brewed by the big three in the US is in your opinion the best.
>I don't want to any of their specialty beers, just the kind
>you can get at any store.
>
>I do have my own personal favorites, but I thought it would be interesting
>to get a net opinion.
>
>Here's the list to pick from:
>
>Anheiser-Busch
List deleted...
>
>Miller Brewing Co.
List deleted...
>
>Adolph Coors
List deleted...
>
Jeez, what a depressing list.
The only beer brewed by the Pisswater Troika that I drink as a
conscious decision (and only then if it's on tap) is Killian's
brewed in the US by Coors.  I'm curious why that wasn't on the list.

For my money, if you're going to drink a mass-produced beer,
you're better off sticking to a local or regional product.  Living
in the Puget Sound area, I'd pick Rainier or Henry Weinhard's
over anything on your list.  Heidelberg wasn't bad when it was
brewed in Tacoma, supposedly in accordance with the Reinheitsgebot
(now it's brewed in Seattle by Rainier as a loss leader).  And
Lucky Lager was the best American Pale Export brwewed anywhere,
IMHO.  They've since moved their operation from Vancouver to
Oly's brewery in Tumwater, and the quality has suffered.  My advice
to anyone is to support your regional swillmeister (if you still have
one) over the national guys.  You're helping your local economy and
the beer is fresher, too.

-- 
David Breneman            #################          Historical revisionism:
The Spud Goodman Show      ####### #######           Elvis Presley was a joke
dcb@rosedale.uucp           #####   #####            A washed-up has-been.
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From: ctownsend@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Oahu Brewpubs
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:59:04 PST
Organization: TRW San Bernardino



	I am leaving early 13 august for Oahu, Hawaii and am will be looking
for brewpubs or pubs that serve decent beer.  Sorry for the short notice, and
thanks for any replies!

	Cary
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Good Beer on Channel Islands ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:53:06 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.

Not got my Good Beer Guide on me, but from memory, Jersey is the best
bet. A home brew pub has just opened up and several pubs import beer
from the mainland (mainly Bass).
One of the CI breweries also produces cask beer, another having recently
ceased. There were some articles recently in What's Brewing - I'll
try to remember to check them out tonight and post the up-to-date
gen tomorrow.
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: I agree!
Date: 20 Aug 1992 16:54:19 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: delay.cs.brown.edu

In article <19AUG199216425783@rigel.tamu.edu>, wjb5106@rigel.tamu.edu (Walter Barnett)
|> In article <1992Aug19.204220.25356@afit.af.mil>, skatapsk@afit.af.mil
|> >In article <1992Aug7.042534.23602@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> colinl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
|> >>>In article <6761@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>, rtg04@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU
|> >> 
|> >>>      We believe, in Melbourne, Australia, that any type of US beer
|> >>> (eg Bud, Coors, Corona etc) is the most woosy beer on the face of the earth.
|> >>
|> >>	Time to re-enrol for Geography 101, pal: Corona is as much American
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >>as Steinlager is Australian.
|> >>

While the first statement was incorrect (Corona is not from the US) the retaliation
is also incorrect... Corona _IS_ American... just not from the USA ;-)

-David V.
 dwv@cs.brown.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Canadian Flamewar  (was: Canadian pisswater)
From: kbenoit@isr.harvard.edu (Ken Benoit)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:49:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

 
While this discussion is captivating it is cluttering a newsgroup about
HOMEBREWING with a beer debate.

Take it to alt.beer!

Now can someone post some good malt extract recipes?  I'm looking for a
good dunkel weizen.

KB

p
Newsgroups: alt.beer,soc.culture.canada,can.politics,sfu.general
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Re: Labatts/Molsons up beer prices 2.5% because of wet Ontario summer
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:29:23 GMT

In article <KRAWCHUK.92Aug11125155@phecda.cs.sfu.ca>, krawchuk@cs.sfu.ca (Bj Krawchuk) writes:
|> 
|> Hey, the blame on prices really should be on the insane and 
|> idiotic government taxes on alcohol (fed 13% and prov 41% of total price)
|> And it could be worse: Quebec's average price for a case is $18.35 (ulp), 
|> vs $14.45 here.
|> 
|> Prices -should- only reflect real costs. For example, the effects of 
|> the wet summer in ON.
|> 


	Boo hoo hoo.   What about the typically miserable weather here
	in St. John's Newfoundland (though I'd say we finally got a decent
	summer this year).  Our beer should be free in that case.  I wish
	central Canada would stop complaining about there horrible weather,
	which on average is much better than here.  Maybe you should have
	been here last *summer*.  Sounds like you might have considered
	suicide !  : )  (smiley, so don't get too upset).  


	Craig Hamm
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Pub Draught Guinness in Chicago!
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
	<1992Aug17.030722.6804@wixer.cactus.org>
	<1992Aug17.060812.24834@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.060812.24834@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:

   In an earlier posting lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
   >In article <92226.195553DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> Don Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
   >>
   >>Course I am sad, because they sold it warm. So I am drinking a Petes  Wicked
   >                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
   >
   >As it should be...

   as it traditionally is.

   >>Ale while I wait for the Guinness to chill.
   >
   >Heathen! Blashpemer! Guinness SHOULD be served at room temperature! Good
   >lord, man, you've been drinking too many Amerikan pisswater beers!

   Guinness is TRADITIONALLY served at room temperature. It SHOULD, as should
   other beers, be served to suit the tastes of the person who will consume
   the beer!

Forgotten in this discussion is that the original poster was talking
about the new Pub Guinness cans, which instruct the user to chill them
for at least 2 hours before using so that the device will work properly.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Warsteiner
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:00:05 GMT

parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:

>ag099@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathan Foster) writes:


>>    If WARSTEINER beer ever makes it to the states, try it, you
>>will become hooked.

>	It has!!  Unfortunately, it's not nearly as tasty as it is in
>Germany.  No beer exports well, of course, but Warsteiner seemed to do
>worse than average.

In my experience it's one of the few German import lagers that ISN'T
usually spoiled; I guess it all depends on where you get it.  Another
plus is that it's fairly inexpensive compared to other beers of
comparable quality.

It still tastes pasteurized and imported, unfortunately.  If you want
The Taste your only options remain going to Germany or setteling
for the fairly good facsimiles brewed by the micros over here.

My recomendations: for price, Berghoff's; for taste, Sam Adams Lager.

Jon Binkley

Newsgroups: alt.beer