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From: D.M.Jones@newcastle.ac.uk (D.M. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Amy Irving - actress or singer?
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:08:59 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Dec10.070209.16573@news.Hawaii.Edu>, teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
>In article <ByoKE6.FHy@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> gerry@keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes:
>>{ I originally posted this to rec.music.bluenote 'cause I assumed that
>>  Amy Irving was a blues/jazz/soul singer - now I'm told she is
>>  ex-wife of Steven Spielberg }
>>
>>The film "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" was on the TV here last weekend.
>>Jessica Rabbit's singing vocals were dubbed by Amy Irving (from memory)
>>who sounds pretty good but I can't find out anything about her. I know
>>the soundtrack is available - is it any good and does it just have the 
>>one song "Why Don't You Do Right" by Amy? Has she recorded anything else?
>
>Jessica Rabbit was voiced by KATHLEEN TURNER from War of the Roses
>(with Michael Douglas), NOT Amy Irving.
>
>
>
	Listen to what the guy says. Jessica Rabbits SINGING voice was provided by Amy Irving, while her ordinary talking voice, was created by (the much more alluring) Kathleen Turner.

	Donald Jones
	D.M.Jones

	Sex is Hereditary: If your parents never had it, then its not likely
			   that you will.
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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Jurassix Park <spoilers>
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:34:16 GMT

In article <BzBEtx.2zy@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.234518.42050@datamark.co.nz>, thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes...
>
>       Also, apart from 1989's final INDIANA JONES picture,
>     when is the last time Spielberg made a worthwhile movie?  
>     EMPIRE OF THE SUN?  That's quite a while ago.  Before that?
>     It seems his reputation was forged between JAWS and THE COLOR
>     PURPLE and he has done nothing in the time since to prove
>     that he's worth such repute.  I still have high hopes for
>     JURASSIC PARK, as I loved the novel and thought it felt
>     like a good Spielberg movie; but not a good Spielberg movie
>     as in HOOK; a good Spielberg movie as in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.
>

>     Yeah, but the question remains...
>
>     ...what have you done for me lately?

This is a good point.  Lately, he has gotten a little "cutesy".  It is just
that most of his movies, foresaking HOOK, BATTERIES..., and a few others, have
have had an impact on me.  I thought EMPIRE OF THE SUN was tremendously
underated!  It certainly wasn't "cutesy" (although some will debate that it
was).

>
>     Who else decided long ago that Spielberg must either a) write
>     the script beginning to end all by himself or b) divorce himself
>     from the writing process altogether and concentrate on bringing
>     someone else's script to life, instead of refashioning that
>     script to his own ends...?
>
I didn't here of this re-writing that he is doing on JP until you mentioned
it.  I didn't know that he did this with HOOK either. 

Maybe he is trying too hard.  

Jake Vaughan


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From: shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Rafi Levavy)
Subject: Re: most underated actress/actor
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:36:39 GMT

>I would vote for John Tuturro.
>I rented Do the Right Thing and Barton Fink
>back-to-back (not intentionally) and I was very impressed
>by his perfomances in both movies.
>I think he was also in Miller's Crossing.
>Can anyone think of any other notable roles he's had?

He was in a movie released last summer.  I think it was called Brain
Donors or Brain Damaged or something like that.  It was a
Zucher/Abrams/Zucher film (or at least part of ZAZ, but I don't
remember which.)

Rafi

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From: nw5c@Virginia.EDU (Nicolas  Wiener)
Subject: Re: Top Five Movies of All Time
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:34:39 GMT



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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: Spielberg
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:42:26 GMT

In article <Bz9Mtv.9pr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan) writes:
>
>>As I have been reading the net I have seen a lot of negative opinion towards
>>Steven Spielberg.  People have been saying that he might not do justice to 
>>Jurrasic Park.  I really can't say that I understand this opinion.  Did everyoneforget about "Jaws" or "Poltergeist"?  If people are worried about Spielberg
>>not being able to do a great Sci-fi movie then they should rent "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."  I saw someone mention this earlier.  As far as his ability to do a serious film, I think that "The Color Purple" pretty much wraps that
>>argument up.  And I think someone on the net put it most eloquently, "...if you didn't like the Indiana Jones movies, then you must have a gland missing some-
>>where..."
> 
Maybe you've got one gland too many...:)

Spielberg is a great director when it comes to making technically perfect,
visually pleasing films. However, he has *never* been able to convince
me that anything genuine is taking place in his films. His emotional
content is treacly, gooey, kiddie-worship. His child actors are 
obnoxious to the point of Shirley Temple-ism. His infantile take on
life (read "All Adults Bad, All Children Good") is offensive and
annoying. Everytime I see a Speilberg film I feel as if a hand has
been inside my head poking at my emotional responses. In other words,
I feel manipulated and violated by his movies. He doesn't know when
"less is more". He piles on the action and sensory overload in his
films until they become nauseating to watch. Give me an adult story
and less gratuitous "action". 

BTW, Poltergeist was directed by Tobe Hooper, not Stevie. Speilberg was
the producer. While you could nominally call Poltergeist a "Speilberg"
film it's not entirely accurate.

>>	Personally, Spielberg is one of my favorite directors (if you could not
>>tell).  Yes, he's had his box office busts, maybe a bit too many, but I think
>>that Jurrasic Park will change a lot of opinions about him.
>
Maybe, but I won't be giving him any of my money in order to find out.
"Hook" cured me once and for all...


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From: dave@xanadu.reston.ingr.com (Dave Loveall)
Subject: Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket, was Re: Jack Webb of "Dragnet"
Reply-To: dave@xanadu.reston.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Federal Systems Division, Reston VA
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:14:55 GMT

In <oyT0uB4w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID) writes:

>mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:

>> In article <1992Nov28.001054.17839@fid.morgan.com> maus@fid.morgan.com (Malco
>> >In article <1992Nov24.142125.14076@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.
>> >>Jack Webb starred in a very influential movie called "The D.I." about a mar
>> >>drill instructor. His performance was so definitive it has essentially been
>> >>copied over and over and over again by every actor who plays a boot camp sa
>> >>
>> >>Just two recent example include Lou Gossett Jr. in "An Officer and a Gentle
>> >>and the opening sequences of the movie "Full Metal Jacket."
>> >
>> >In fairness, it should be pointed out that the DI in FULL METAL JACKET was
>> >a real drill instructor (or former DI) who was hired as a technical expert
>> >and then cast in the role.  So, while any resmeblance to Jack Webb's per-
>> >formance in DI can only reflect well on Jack Webb, it doesn't seem fair to
>> >characterise this portrayal as "copying" Jack Webb.
>> >
>> >Unless the Marine Corps itself is copying him. :^)
>> 
>> I had heard this too, however, you can see this same DI (turned actor) as a
>> chopper pilot in Apocalypse Now, which was made loooooong before FMJ.

>The DI you're reffering to is Lee Ermey (sp?), WAS a DI and made a living 
>as a Technical adviser. I beieve he got the FMJ role after demosntrating 
>how a DI acted. Much of his dialogue was Ermey's own. He has since on on 
>to bigger (although not necissarily BETTER) roles -- the Mayor in 
>MISSISSIPI BURNING, the evangelist in some Chevy Chase movie, and -- 
>perhaps ironicly -- a military commander in TOY SOLDIERS (a dog).

>It's not surprising he's a chopper pilot in Ap.Now, although I don't 
>recall seeing him there -- the "technical advisers" often get handed bit 
>parts or non-speaking roles.

>The tradgedy is that when FMJ was released he was touted a a sure-fire 
>BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR nominee. It never happened. I've seen that movie 
>five times on the strength of his "performance" alone!

As I recall, he also played a Marine Corps DI in "The Boys
In Company C", a film done well before (1975?) "Full Metal Jacket",
"Platoon", and "Apocalypse Now".  I don't recall Ermey being quite as
sadistic in BICC as he was in FMJ, though his character did survive.. ;-)
Stan Shaw was memorable in BICC too as a street-wise loner type ..

>Spongebo - THE EYE-BALL KID (:::::-)

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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Oscars: Let's do it right (was Re: 1992?  It was a bad year....)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.190230.21795@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:
>
>Has anyone read any results yet of some of the critics awards: L.A. Film
>Critics, NY Film critics, etc.? They are as debateable as the Oscars, but it is
>interesting to see their picks.  They often pick worthy films or performances
>overlooked by the Academy.

The LA Film Critics awards are out.  I don't remember all of the winners,
but I do remember most of the major ones.

The big winner was "Unforgiven".  It won best picture, best performance
by an actor (Eastwood), best director (Eastwood), best original screenplay,
best supporting actor (Hackman), and one other award.  It was runner up
for a seventh award.  Emma Thompson won the best performance by an
actress for "Howards End".  Judy Davis won the best performance by a
supporting actress for "Husbands and Wives".  (Sidney Pollack was the runner
up in the supporting actor category for his appearances in "Husbands and
Wives", "Death Becomes Her", and "The Player".)  I believe "The Crying
Game" won best foreign film, with "Raise the Red Lantern" the runner up.
(The rules for the LA critics awards are different than the Academy Awards,
in several ways.)

-- 
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		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:17:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.014613.14202@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mdriscol@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mollie M Driscol) writes:
>In article <4442@cvbnetPrime.COM> csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet) writes:
>
>>ooops my mistake
>>but my point as applies to KiM Basinger, not Carrie Otis
>>is even stronger.  Kim was the aggresser in 9 1/2 weeks,
>>not Mickey Rourke.  Kim is a willing, enthusiastic
>>participant in pleasure(Carrie needing a wee bit of coaxing,
>>but this was not rape by anyones definition but yours.
>
>What?  Mickey Rourke abused and hurt her and *she* was the
>aggressor?  Interesting.  We are so accustomed to female
>sexual passivity in films that when a woman shows pleasure,
>she is seen as an aggressor.
>
>>When a woman seeks sex it cannot be called rape.
>>Furthur when people are enjoying it , it is called
>>pleasure.  This was pleasureable sex for both people
>>(in both movies)
>
>First, let me say that it is when MEN enjoy sex that it
>is called pleasure.  Women's pleasure is usually not considered
>important in heterosexual intercourse.
>
Did you fall asleep during most of the sexual revolution? While this
statement may have been true during the 60s it certainly doesn't fly
today except in the most general of terms. Most women today *demand*
satisfaction from their lovers. You have heard of B&D practices right?
Some people actually derive sexual pleasure from situations others
would call abusive. Whether or not this is "sick" is a question I 
won't attempt to answer (Madonna likes it!).

>Second, if a woman is raped, she is raped, whether she happened
>to have pleasure [including orgasm] or not.  If she is forced
>or coerced to engage in sexual activity, it is rape.  and it's
>not her fault.
>
No argument here but i'd be interested in hearing your definition of
"coercion". Are you subscribing to the Catherine McKinnon version?

Back to "9 1/2 Weeks"...

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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: re: Top 10 movies of all time
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:46:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.032546.3888@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> spandian@nyx.cs.du.edu (Vaisnavi) writes:
>My choice of top 10 movies of all time ( not ordered ) :
[stuff deleted]
>(3) City Lights (Charlie Chaplin)
     ^^^^^^^^^^^
An awesome flick I forgot to put in my list.  Gold Rush is good, too.
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From: gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker)
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:26:31 GMT

In article <ddqx039Cc4rd00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
>bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>
>}Now if we want to talk overrated actors, what about actors that are called
>}great actors, and have won aclaim for *their acting* but you think are awful.
>
>Sure.  I know that this will be considered total sacrilege by most, but
>Meryl Streep gets my award as the actress with the most acclaim and the
>least acting ability.
>
>--James Preston
>

Whoaaaaaaaaa....time out there guy...If you are judging her on comedic work,
then I'd agree but rent one of her dramas and she is nothing short of 
brilliant. She is probably a master at any accent a script calls for. She puts
 great emotion into each of her characters. Lets put it this way....go see
 for yourself.

Jeff hawkins
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Subject: Re: Lance Henriksen (Wuz: New Van Damme Movie in the Works)
From: S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 23:15:15 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.124.1.2

In article <1992Dec7.195926.12362@Virginia.EDU>
qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
 
>
>hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com  writes:
>> In article <28194@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy) writes:
>>  From the r.a.m. actors list, here's all of them:
>>
>>    [list deleted]
>>
>>  TRAVIS
 
 
He was also in an episode of Tales from the Crypt.
-mp
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:53:10 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
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Cherie Slasor writes
>In article <168BEE736.ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU  
writes:
>>Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
>>in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
>>I immediately went out and bought _My Left Foot_, which was *nothing*
>>like _LOTM_, but in which I saw why it was that Daniel got his Oscar.
>>And I *loved* that great piece that Libby Whatshername did on Daniel
>>in _Premier_ magazine (it was either the last one or the one before).
>>VERY funny!

Yes, La Lib did quite the job on DDL and those of us who've seen
him quite understand his attitude.

>>--Jean

>YES!  Shortly after seeing _LOTM_ (for the 2nd time, I think) I rented
>_MLF_ and _A Room With A View_ and found that he was a totally different
>person in each of the 3 movies.  He even looked different and I doubt
>I would have recognized him if I didn't already know he was there.  I am
>very impressed with what a true actor (as opposed to a "movie star") can
>do.

So don't forget either My Beautiful Launderette (he plays a gay punk) and
The Unbearable Lightness of Being (he plays a charismatic doctor who
beds anyone in skirts (or hats...)).  Very different and excellent
performances.

I don't hate Last of the Mohicans as much as many other reviewers here.
The script was pretty bad, and DDL did not give one of his best
performances.  He was just...<sigh>...so nice to watch in that movie!

>Is it true he's the son of a former British Poet Laureate?

Yes, that's true.

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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Spielberg
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:13:05 GMT

vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan) writes:

>As I have been reading the net I have seen a lot of negative opinion towards
>Steven Spielberg.  People have been saying that he might not do justice to 
>Jurrasic Park.  I really can't say that I understand this opinion.  Did everyoneforget about "Jaws" or "Poltergeist"?  If people are worried about Spielberg
>not being able to do a great Sci-fi movie then they should rent "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."  I saw someone mention this earlier.  As far as his ability to do a serious film, I think that "The Color Purple" pretty much wraps that
>argument up.  And I think someone on the net put it most eloquently, "...if you didn't like the Indiana Jones movies, then you must have a gland missing some-
>where..."
>	Personally, Spielberg is one of my favorite directors (if you could not
>tell).  Yes, he's had his box office busts, maybe a bit too many, but I think
>that Jurrasic Park will change a lot of opinions about him.

I certainly hope so.  However, it depends on which Spielberg is directing:
the Good Spielberg, who directed "Close Encounters" and "Jaws," or the
Evil Spielberg, who gave us "*batteries not included."


                               --Steve Stelter
                                 sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: alanr@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Alan N Rovner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Anyone know release date for "Light Sleeper"?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:58:15 GMT
Distribution: na

I've been looking for the recent movie "Light Sleeper" on video, but no one
at the local stores has any info.  How about you folks?  Thanks for any help
and happy holidays.

Al Rovner
Tektronix Test & Measurement Group
From: ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Top Ten movies
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:52:53 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <1gqavnINNso4@uwm.edu> nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones) writes:
>( As you can see, I'm a Steve Martin Fan, but there were some bombs: i.e.
>  Parenthood and Roxanne!)
>
How can you say Parenthood was a bomb???  This was Martin's BEST
movie BY FAR!!  Maybe you have to have kids yourself to see how
funny and poignant it is.

ivy
From: clark@netcom.com (Sue Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Fried Green Tomatoes... - A Question
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:56:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung) writes:

>In article 31048@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com, cvelo@ems.cdc.com (Colleen Velo) writes:
>>|In article <lidcdsINNjcv@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office) writes:
>>||> In article 22725@drutx.ATT.COM, mcp@drutx.ATT.COM (Mike Paugh) writes:
>>||> <=>In article <1992Dec3.150626.3405@nic.csu.net>, Clark@sonoma.edu (Jenny Clark) writes:
>>||> <=>> Wasn't  the old lady simply known as Mrs.  Thredgood/ Thergood ( whatever 
>>||> <=>> 
>>||> <=>> Jenny Clark
>>||> <=>> clark@sonoma.edu
>>||> <=>
>>||> <=>
>>||> <=>I heartily recommend it.  The movie was very faithful to the book (Fannie
>>||> <=>Flagg co-wrote the screenplay) but the book is well worth your time.
>>||> 
>>||> She also appears very briefly in one scene...
>>|
>>|	Which scene is that?
>>||> 
>>||> 
>>| _____________________________________________________________________________

>I think she was marriage therapist talking to a bunch of women.  She 
>suggested that they all get naked.

Actually, she was the first marriage counselor.  The one who suggested
putting 'spark' back into the marriage, just before Kathy Bates starts
daydreaming about meeting her husband dressed only in celophane.

And, in response to the question posted originally, Virginia Tandy
introduces herself in the beginning as Mrs. Cleo (Ninny) Threadgoode.

Sue
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