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From: bep1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (bentz.e.puryear)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Anyone been to Glenwood Springs, CO -- 15 miles west of Vail on I-70?
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:03:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Jul20.144451.41762@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, by thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu:
> I have read a little about Glenwood Springs, which is 10-15 miles west of Vail
> on I-70.  I hear it has a hot spring that is 2 blocks long and that it costs
> $5.00 to sit in it.  
> 
> Anyone ever been there?  Is a worthy side trip when skiing at Vail?
> 

Glenwood Springs is more than 10-15 miles from Vail. It is more like 60 miles
and you have to go through Glenwood Canyon. The drive through the canyon is
beautiful but it is under construction and you can run into delays. The hot
springs is really a pool that is fed by a hot spring and it is at least two
blocks long. I don't know the price. It is a nice town but I don't know if I
would consider it a tourist spot. It is about half way to Aspen from Vail.
There is a small ski area called Sunlight just outside the town.
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From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:56:55 GMT
Subject: Re: The FAQ lives!
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.juggling

Dave Blumenthal asks:

>I'm interested in learning how to manipulate devil sticks, and I would
>like some information about styles, tricks, etc.

----------

The only place I've seen any information about devil sticks is in
"The Complete Juggler" by Dave [???}.

Hope this helps.

-Bob
From: dsb@osustat.mps.ohio-state.edu (Dave Blumenthal)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Devil Sticks
Date: 28 Jul 1992 19:56:05 GMT
Organization: Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: statmac64.mps.ohio-state.edu

I'm interested in learning how to manipulate devil sticks, and I would
like some information about styles, tricks, etc.
    I've seen two basic styles of devil sticks - the solid bar tapering
from a thin middle to a thick end, and a thin dowel with a small ball on
each end.  How do these styles compare, as far as ease of use, etc.
    Does anyone have instructions for building devil sticks?  I'd like
to know things like length, weight, materials (I've seen some devil sticks
that are wrapped in rubber, is this recommended?).
    Finally, what are good sources for learning devil stick tricks
(especially simple tricks fo beginners)?
    Thanks a lot,
    Dave Blumenthal

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From: ronald@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Ronald Braunstein)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: tried juggling in water (well, not really..)
Keywords: juggling, water
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:07:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

>
>PS: I am sure someone should know about juggling in water (ya, I mean juggling
>such that objects are released and caught inside water). I think it would be
>fun for scuba-divers to try that :-)   

I have tried juggling while diving.  it is much easier to juggle things
that sink, rather than float.  The object I tried just pop up to fast.
It is kinda difficult to throw rocks up high under water though.
Xref: sparky rec.juggling:2143 rec.puzzles:5232
From: jaffray@oreo.berkeley.edu (Alan Jaffray)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling,rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: Passing primes
Followup-To: rec.juggling
Date: 25 Jul 1992 20:03:01 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oreo.berkeley.edu
Keywords: primes

In article <76381@ut-emx.uucp> rkcorell@cs.utexas.edu (Rob Corell) writes:
>
>  Quite a few of us in the Texas Juggling Society (Austin)
>have a mathematical bent and discovered an interesting 
>pseudo-competitive passing pattern.  Its just passing
>primes, or the inverse, passing non-primes.
>
>  Its a great way to get a gestalt feeling for prime
>numbers, and rather humorous to pass competitively.
>We also tried throwing tricks on every prime; however,
>the inverse of that got pretty hairy.
>
>  Has anyone else tried this?  And does anyone know any
>other good numerical series to try this out with?
>The fibonacci sequence got too big too quick, multiples
>of a number are way too easy, and I don't know my log
>tables that well.

How about passing whenever the binary expansion has an even # of ones?

Let's see:

1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, 1000, 1001, 1010, 1011, 1100, 1101, 1110, 1111
N  N   Y   N    Y    Y    N    N     Y     Y     N     Y     N     N     Y

So for the first 16 right-hand tosses, you pass on 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 12, and 16.

The nice thing is that it would surely look random, and also the frequency
of passing approaches 1/2 as you juggle on through eternity (prove! :-).  
Every other is a nice frequency to be passing on.  And I can't think of a
better way to get a gestalt feeling for counting in binary... :-)

Hmmm.... just thought of a very pretty way to prove the above problem, though
it's probably simple via any number of approaches.  Barely deserves a 
crossposting.  Spoiler follows.

-- Alan























You pass whenever an odd number of the bits following the initial 1 are
1's.  Prove that the sum of C(n,k) for odd k is equal to the sum over even k.
Look at Pascal's triangle.  Nifty, no?
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: bies@mainz.informatik.uni-kl.de (Bies Carlo - PA Sutter)
Subject: tricks wanted for 3-ball-book
Keywords: 3-ball-tricks
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:25:32 GMT

Wanted: 3-Ball-Tricks for new 3-Ball-Book. Send detailed description of your
tricks (no standard tricks please, I already have those) including effect to
be achieved and - if known - inventor of trick. If published, your name will
be included with the description.

------------------------
Jochen Buennagel                     e-mail: bies@informatik.uni-kl.de
Gerhart-Hauptmann-Str. 22/64
W-6750 Kaiserslautern
Germany
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jimd@m2xenix.psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Various IJA things
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:24:39 GMT

First, thanks to everyone for their efforts in Montreal.  Great festival!
I DO hope that Fargo is flat, as reported!

To someone who knows what the IJA board is talking about:  Could we get some
clarification on what the board is discusrsing in terms of money, Life 
memberships, and dues?  I'd like to be informed before I make any suggestion
or draw any conclusions.

I will say one thing, though:  The membership of the IJA could do a LOT to
improve their public image by finding some manners.  I have been working in
theatre for 12 years, and I have NEVER seen an audience as rude as the one
Friday at Seniors.  Bad show, folks.

Sorry for this:  Eric Promislow and Duane Starcher:  please drop me mail, I
can't find your addresses.  Thanks.

Now, can I still get another juice, or do I have to put my muffin back?


Jim the Juggler, a.k.a.:  jimd@m2xenix.psg.com
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers)
Subject: Re: Juggling and Early Childhood
Reply-To: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:09:57 GMT

chrisl@joplin.wri.com (Chris LaReau) writes:

>In <1992Jul22.211657.5707@walter.bellcore.com> jns@inoms.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jesse N. Schell) writes:
>
>>I've heard it said that Anthony Gatto was able to juggle his age for three
>>consecutive years (3, 4, and 5, if you couldn't guess). Is this mere 
>>mythology?
>
>Not a myth, but not true either. The party in question was Albert Lucas, not
>Anthony Gatto.

How many of you actually have kids or deal with them on a frequent
basis?  Do you know any 3 year olds who can juggle 3 balls?  From all
contact with kids I've had (and I have frequent involvement with kids
these ages), a *very* physically advanced 3 year old can
_occasionally_ catch _one_ ball he throws himself.  Most can't even do
that.  Most have difficulty catching a single ball perfectly thrown at
them.

Trust me, the above is pure myth regardless of who the accredited
person was.
-- 
Keith Rogers
krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: Montreal Numbers Results
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:58:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.214127.1158@cs.yale.edu> 
  favorini-francis@CS.YALE.EDU (Francis Favorini) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.150007.1447@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> 
>  amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog) writes:
>>Did Boppo (Bruce Tiemann) not qualify or not enter?  I know he can do better
>>than the winning run with balls (hell, I can do better) and he was
>>hoping to do 7 clubs at this convention although he doesn't juggle
>>well in the morning (a night owl like myself).
>
>Numbers Competition was not very well attended or publicized, and it was,
>I believe, held at 11 in the morning (so no Boppo).  Boppo did win the
>five-ball endurance coming in just short of 38 minutes.  Peter McLaughlin
>dropped just 15 seconds or so earlier.  The crowd was justifiably 
>amazed.  I believe the current world record is 45 min. by Anthony Gatto.
>(surprise)

Actually the 45 minutes is for 5 clubs, not balls.  I seem to remember
5 balls having been done for over an hour but, unlikely as it may seem,
I could be wrong.

>Francis Favorini					favorini@cs.yale.edu

C "Who can barely get over 5 minutes" Frog
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: terry@santafe.edu (Terry Jones)
Subject: ***IMPORTANT*** Re: ftp at piggy?
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:09:19 MDT

>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:02:56 GMT, jimd@m2xenix.psg.com (Jim Dorman) said:

 Jim> I was trying to grab some goodies the other day, and I found that piggy
 Jim> was not answering my calls to it.  Does anyone know the status of juggling
 Jim> ftp stuff?  Thanks...


For those of you who missed this message whilst playing in Montreal...


From terry Wed Jul 22 21:43:07 1992
To: juggling@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu
Subject: *** IMPORTANT *** The demise of piggy, the arise of moocow.


Poor old piggy got zapped in an electrical storm in Bloomington 48
hours ago. The ethernet card (at least) is rather fried and as a
result piggy is not on the network at all at the moment. A new card
may be ordered and piggy may live again someday.

All is not lost. The disk with all the ftp stuff on it has been moved
to another machine, and as of sometime tomorrow, you will be able to
access it via ftp and mail request as usual. We're in the process of
sorting out a million and one things and the juggling stuff hasn't had
the highest priority.

The new machine is named moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu and for the
purposes of rec.juggling, piggy no longer exists.

Remember, it's moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu (129.79.238.12)

Terry Jones (terry@santafe.edu)
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: tried juggling in water (well, not really..)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:25:56 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: ronald@cory.Berkeley.EDU's message of 28 Jul 92 17:07:11 EDT

In article <1992Jul28.210711.15307@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> ronald@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Ronald Braunstein) writes:

   I have tried juggling while diving.  it is much easier to juggle things
   that sink, rather than float.  The object I tried just pop up to fast.
   It is kinda difficult to throw rocks up high under water though.

Sounds like something more akin to scarf juggling.  Fairly easy, but
not a lot of tricks possible.
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From: jns@inoms.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jesse N. Schell)
Subject: Re: Passing primes
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 17:37:58 GMT

In article <JR.92Jul30175449@bluecher.ksr.com>, jr@ksr.com (John Robinson) writes:
|> In article <76381@ut-emx.uucp> rkcorell@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rob Corell) writes:
|> 
|>      Has anyone else tried this?  And does anyone know any
|>    other good numerical series to try this out with?
|>    The fibonacci sequence got too big too quick, multiples
|>    of a number are way too easy, and I don't know my log
|>    tables that well.
|> 

I haven't tried it, but one thing that might work pretty well is working off
of a piece of text that both of you know pretty well. One that everyone knows
(and has the advantage of going on forever) is the set of counting numbers:

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, ...

Using the text, you could pass every nth throw, with n being the length of
the current word. So, using the numbers, counting right hand only, it would go:
(S = self, P = pass)

SSP, SSP, SSSSP, SSSP, SSSP, SSP, SSSSP, SSSSP, SSSP, SSP, SSSSSP, ...

(the commas are only there to make it readable)

You could also work off the letters, only throwing when there is an 'e'. Not
counting spaces, here is what it would be with the numbers....

SSP, SSS, SSSPP, SSSS, SSSP, SSS, SPSPS, PSSSS, SSSP, SPS, PSPSPS, ...

Or try only throwing when there is an 'a' :-)

You could use any text! Any pattern! Try Hamlet's soliloquy and pass only
on two letter words!

To be, or not to be, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind...
--becomes--
P  P   P  S   P  P   S    P  S   S         S        S   S      P  S  S ...

Or only on words less than three letters! Words with lengths that are prime
numbers! Use the pledge of allegiance! The lyrics to "Hotel California"!

Try the Star Spangled banner, only passing on words that start with a letter
from one of your first names! 

You could also assign a different trick to each vowel! If you know 26 passing
tricks, you could assign one to each letter! Not to mention punctuation!

Why, you could pass secret messages in your act this way! Ed Carstens could
write a program that turned text files into animated jugglers on the screen
doing tricks! A new news reader, "jrn" would spring up, and you could read
news while passersby would think you were staring dumbly at a computerized
cartoon! THIS IDEA WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!!!

Or maybe I'm getting a little carried away.
(PS SP?SP P?S SPSSPSS P SPSSSP SPSSPPS PSPS.)

-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jerry@stat.tamu.edu (Jerry Peterson)
Subject: Re: blind juggling
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:04:15 GMT

mohlenkamp-martin@CS.YALE.EDU (Martin Mohlenkamp) writes:


>I would like to learn how to juggle with my eyes closed. As I see it
>  there are two ways I could do this:
>    1)  Throw the balls perfectly every time. (not likely)
>    2)  Have balls which make noise in flight.

Also, there's:
     3)  Use clubs. 

I've had pretty good sucess with this (about 50 throws). It seems
easier to me than balls, I suppose because the nice, long handle 
is not as easy to miss. It's a nice trick to be able to do, when 
hecklers say, "Well, can you do that with your eyes closed?" and
you can. I've also been able to pull off a flourish under a double 
with my eyes closed.



Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: Montreal Championships Results.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:56:22 GMT

In article <JR.92Jul30140821@bluecher.ksr.com> 
  jr@ksr.com (John Robinson) writes:
>
>("Danny Mulligan" was Dan Holtzman).  

Huh?  Was he not performing under his real name or did someone
get it wrong (either way I'll have to congratulate him when I
next see him).

C Frog
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Devil Sticking 
From: mathiega@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (G. A. Mathieson)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:51:09 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Keywords: Beyond Helicopter and Aeroplane

Having manufactured some devil sticks out of 
tubular and solid aluminium cylinders, I have proceeded 
to learn single-stick tricks like aeroplane (clockwise) 
and helicopter (both ways) , both with either hand. 

What other (more advanced) single-stick tricks are known 
to the nice people out there in Newsland? Pray tell, so 
that this character in New Zealand can postpone learning 
double-stick moves for a while.
GAM
   


Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: s4610160@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Kauf Man)
Subject: juggling stuff vendors
Keywords: juggling
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:06:49 GMT

Hi.  Anyone know where I can order some juggling stuff wholesale from?
A retail place that offers quantity discounts could be useful, too, since
I want to get under $500 dollars worth of stuff.  I know the 1800IJUGGLE
place.   Thanks a lot.  Thanks greatly, Scott
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       Scott Kaufman                   s4610160@titan.ucc.umass.edu
From: rkcorell@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rob Corell)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Passing primes
Keywords: primes
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: rkcorell@cs.utexas.edu (Rob Corell)
Organization: Texas Juggling Society


  Quite a few of us in the Texas Juggling Society (Austin)
have a mathematical bent and discovered an interesting 
pseudo-competitive passing pattern.  Its just passing
primes, or the inverse, passing non-primes.

  Its a great way to get a gestalt feeling for prime
numbers, and rather humorous to pass competitively.
We also tried throwing tricks on every prime; however,
the inverse of that got pretty hairy.

  Has anyone else tried this?  And does anyone know any
other good numerical series to try this out with?
The fibonacci sequence got too big too quick, multiples
of a number are way too easy, and I don't know my log
tables that well.


  Rob Corell
  Prez, TJS (Austin)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 13:59:00 EDT
From: <NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Montreal Championships Results.
 <92209.164313NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <Bs3vos.Koo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

 Fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:

>>In <92209.164313NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

>>Moschen's routine with the single and double chrome
>>bars is actually quite old. I say it
>>several years ago on a (PBS?) show called "Live from
>>Off Center".

>No kidding?  Can you still get copies of that show?

I have a copy that I pirated from the TV, but I don't
know where you could get a high quality authorized copy.

>> Why pay $60 (entire week) for a gym pass when the nicest
>>place to juggle is outside?

>'twas indeed.  But the Renegade shows were held in the gym, along with
>the vendors' tables and some workshops and demos, not to mention Moschen
>and Lotte Brun.  I saw many people with
>visitor's passes.  I wonder if there was any actual difference between
>a gym pass and a visitor's pass?

 This was my point exactly. I should have bought a visitors pass.
 I don't have my registration info
 handy but I think a visitors pass was $2 per day (versus
 $12/day for a qym pass for the entire festival.) A single day
 gym pass was $25! You're not allowed to juggle in the gym with
 a visitors pass, but you have access to everything else. So,
 a person who came for only one day would pay $23 for the sole
 priviledge of juggling in the gym.

  David Naylor,  Queen's Juggler
  NAYLORD@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: tried juggling in water (well, not really..)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:24:47 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: mohitb@eos.ncsu.edu's message of 27 Jul 92 13:54:26 EDT

In article <1992Jul27.175426.2702@ncsu.edu> mohitb@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar) writes:

   * if you juggle with an object that will float (peaches are great, they are
   heavy like any regular ball and quite easy to catch), you don't have to bend
   down to pick them up, since they float up quite nicely.  this is probably
   nicest thing next to hiring a ball-boy when it comes to your back   

Ron Graham has outfitted his office with a net attached to the four
ceiling corners.  In the center is a 1.5 foot hole with a drawstring.
Pull the hole down to your waist, tighten it up, and you are ready to
practice your numbers.  Guess a stretchy netting works best.
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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (MacPhil)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Another juggling commercial
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:37:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

In addition to all of the others I've posted over time...

Jim Harbaugh (Bears' QB) now is juggling on a White Sox commercial
on the ongoing theme "good guys wear black".

Anyone posting from Montreal?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
When ambidextrous people can't do it right, we do it left.

MacPhil / iqti400@indycms.bitnet / iqti400@indycms.iupui.edu
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Montreal Championships Results.
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:08:21 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu's message of 25 Jul 92 12:15:39 EDT

In article <55081@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (PHILLIP_SANMIGUEL) writes:

     Habibi characterized the Seniors (held Friday, i.e. last night) 
   competition as "Pretty disappointing...the technical level was awful... 
   the only ones who were really good were"  Dmitri Mources " and Dan 
   Holtzman."

("Danny Mulligan" was Dan Holtzman).  I'd have to add Herrera to the
technical brilliance list.  His bounce work was awesome, and he didn't
drop.  And Larry Vee was as up to his usual skills (have you ever see
anyone else even try the stuff he does?), jut not new.
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