From: lwebb@sscvx1.ssc.gov (Lynn Webb (Auntie Lynn, to you))
Subject: Re: vote &  more
Summary: another voice on hypnosis, NLP
Keywords: self hypnosis NLP consciousness
Reply-To: lwebb@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:03:06 GMT

> So if anyone cares to comment, 
> 
> fergie.                                 or email ferguson@vxaluw.cern.ch
> 
-- 
Well then.  There you have it.
For Fergie and his short memory --
Since most of what I know of all this comes from or is related to writing for
children, you can take this or not as you like.

There's a guy in Hawaii (a lot of postings on this newsgroup come from
there -- must be an interesting place) who has in the past (though I've heard
these days he gone more into mass marketing and the "show" business) given a
lot of help to children who have trouble with schoolwork related memory using 
"tricks" via Ericksonian idio-motor responses -- which would be nothing more 
than a self-induced low-level altered state. -- self hypnosis?

His name is Tad James, and he wrote a book with Wyatt Woodsmall out of
Washington DC that makes for fairly interesting reading -- but his physics
sucks, so be prepared to be generous.  He does at least have a glimmer of the 
quantum nature of Jung et al.   
This is like 3rd generation NLP. 

You also said something about precognition--
not along exactly the same line, but one which resembles it....
James (I rarely get a chance to talk about this, but you hit several related 
buttons, so -- [bell] -- thanks for playing) took tired old NLP time-line
stuff and lit a match under it and did some really nice things with time.  I
understand there's a guy in Alberta who's taken it in yet another direction --
no clues on that yet.  But if you take James' time-line therapy and mix in a
heafty spoonful of Schrodinger's Cat -- precognition starts to plump-up a
little on the scales of credibility.

As for hypnosis (self or otherwise) -- I learned from some skilled pros (psych) 
and really don't have any ideas about how you could learn it any other way. 
They were (and are) very careful about installing high-powered safeguards so
that I basically have a shut-down when I start getting careless or tired. 
Really interesting stuff, though.  

Since I've always associated trance-states, altered states, hypnosis and
self-hypnosis -- my lines are bleary.  I alter so often -- it's as "normal" a
state for me as anything else.   When I'm first-drafting a story, I drop down
as far as I can get with my hands on the keyboard and don't come back till
everybody lives happily ever after (so to speak).  My background in narrative 
structure is as automatic as the QWERTY keyboard layout, so what I get is raw 
metaphor generated without conscious interference.  It'll make your teeth buzz.

So.  Yeah.  Learn it.  Once you've got it, the trick is to put it to good use.
Good, right, useful, best and safe.   I don't have a clue about what anybody 
else knows or does with self-hypnosis or altered states of consciousness.  I'm
not a psych or anything related.  But I am a regular "user".  

And about your short memory.  One of my editors would say I applaud your
ability to remember the things you do remember so well now.

And he'd say a lot more 
But I'd never say that.
 

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