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From: cliffr@pyuxf@uucp (Cliff Roberts)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: CP & Engineering
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: cliffr@pyuxf@uucp (Cliff Roberts)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24576

On a few posts, the idea of people with CP and their ability to study
engineering was raised.

I am a research engineer and I have two degrees in engineering.  While
I do not suffer from CP, I have had lab partners who have.

Basically, if you can think, really think...and you love the work,
the rest is easy.  My lab partner was better than anyone else in
the lab.  Anyone who says motor skills are necessary has not seen
colleges who equipe themselves for ALL its students.  In the long
run, its the person doing the labs, taking the tests, and writing
the thesis.  If have the desire, CP is merely an inconvience.

cliff.
From: nicolaides@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Joe Nicolaides)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Spina Bifida Hot Line to World
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:18:29 GMT
Reply-To: nicolaides@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Joe Nicolaides)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24618

The Greater Cleveland Spina Bifida Association of Cleveland, Ohio
is looking for contacts per Spina Bifida. Our membership is both
parents of children with Spina Bifida, adults w/ spina bifida and
medical professionals. Im looking for a hot line with the world to
share info and possible pen pals to our spina bifida members.
Mail can be send either over the net or to our P.O Box.

Mailing address is

Greater Cleveland Spina Bifida Association
P.O Box 534
Cleveland, Ohio
          44107

                      Joe Nicolaides
                        President
                     Greater Cleveland
                     Spina Bifida Association
From: Larry.Skutchan@hnews.fidonet.org (Larry Skutchan)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: New CD Stuff
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:06:41 GMT
Reply-To: Larry.Skutchan@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: The Handicap News, Shelton CT (203) 337-1607
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24601

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I just thought I would pass on the fact that I just got my update to
Library of the Future, and they have enhanced the interface.  It now
lets you print or save a book and, best of all, set marks and return to
those marks even in another session.

Also, has anyone heard about the new offer from DAK called PhoneDisc?

It features 70 million white page entries, and 7 million business
listings.  It sounds good, has anyone seen it?

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From: Melissa.Mead@f136.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Melissa Mead)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Cp & engineering
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:01:06 GMT
Reply-To: Melissa.Mead@f136.n267.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:267/136 - Access BBS, Ballston Spa NY
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24571

Besides, CP does not always rule out fine motor contol. I have CP, and I do quite detailed sketching.
Missy ;)

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From: stevee@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Steven Eichner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: ADA database
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:47:16 GMT
Reply-To: stevee@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Steven Eichner)
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24627

Apparently, a FREE (well, you still got to pay phone charges) bbs that
talks about the ADA exists. IT's phone # is 202 514 6193. Hope you enjoy
it!

I'm working on a research paper on the ADA and Administrative laws and
procedures. If anyone has any good ideas, I'd be most interested in any
assistance!

Steve

Bitnet: Stevee@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Internet: Eichner@acc.fau.edu
The mandatory quote: "What is essential is invisible to the Eye!"
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From: Gordon.Gillesby@f1007.n282.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Gillesby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Permobil and Chair-man?
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:00:36 GMT
Reply-To: Gordon.Gillesby@f1007.n282.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:282/1007 - DRAG-Net, Andover MN
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24642

PN**> -=> Quoting Noel Harper to Pandora Nigh <=-

PN**>  Hi Noel, First I'll give you the config for my chair;
PN**>    I have the Max 90, with standing frame, lateral supports, lumbar
PN**>supports,
PN**>light package,18"arms, a headrest and a shorter seat length. With this con

PN**>the chair presently runs $24,000. Now, I hate to put a damper on your enth
PN**>iasm, but getting this chair has been a real headache. It took me a year a

   Just a brief interruption:  I was just looking into one of these
chairs.  While I still have some limited mobility, I'm going to need one
very soon -- at least for going anywhere out of my house.  I WAS
wondering just what kind of design could justify such a price tag!
Thank you very much for sharing your observations.  I will approach this
product with much greater caution.

   Doesn't ANYBODY make a well-designed, reasonably priced electric
wheelchair that reflects some taste and comfort as well?  Or am I just
looking in all the wrong places?

   Sorry -- whining mode is now off.  I really do thank you for sharing
your observations on your chair, it has been very helpful and very
timely.

                                - glg -

 * OLX 2.2 * You can always tell radiologists by their warm glow.

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From: Brad.Gillespie@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Brad Gillespie)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Braille printers
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:07:10 GMT
Reply-To: Brad.Gillespie@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24605

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

RC>I am presently in need of a new Braille printer at work.  My place of

Have you looked in to the Romew line of Printers from Enabling
Technologies?  I am demoing it now and the braille manual is good.
I am trying the 20 cps model, but they do have a 40 cps one as
well. do not know what the cost of it is as this is currently on
loan to me and was purchased by the government.  the only thing
that Brad mentioned about ity was that for an office setting the
audible test tones and beeps may be too loud.  I have not seen
anywhere in the manual (as of yet) where these sounds can be
disabled.

I think the factors for consideration are,

how easily can the unit be serviced?
How reliable is the unit?
and the price.

If you like TSI and have had good luck with them you probably will
want to continue using their kproducts.  Brad is using a Versapoint
though and he has already had it serviced once in 2 years and from
what I have seen lately it is due again.  they do a good job in
servicing, but it is costly, something like $700 Canadian.  the
pins tend to come out of alignment.  I suppose that is a problem
with many prihnters and so I am still searching for one for home
use.

At any rate I would consider the service costs when making your
decision as to what to buy, and where do you need to send the unit
to get serviced as down time could be an important factor. Hope
this monologue hasn't confused you further!

Debbie Gillespie (Brad's wife)

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From: Bob.Dunlap@p0.f360.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Dunlap)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Cp & engineering
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:00:49 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Dunlap@p0.f360.n226.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/360.0 - Hangar 18, Columbus OH
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24570

JW> engineering?  I am not referring to intelligence needed (I know CP
JW> sufferers are not necessarily stupid), but engineering requires the
JW> ability to make fine motions with the fingers and hands, and I don't see
JW> how someone with CP would be able todo that kind of work even with a
JW> computer because CP by its very definetion has some lack of motor
JW> control.

no it doesn't. it depends on what you do. there is a lot more to engineering
than drafting or builting things out of legoes. most of what you do (or learn
to do) is sit and pound a calculator to death. you can always communicate
your ideas to others. if you can't draw very well, that's what draftsmen
are for.

like other diseases, cerebral palsy varies from person to person. i happen to
have fairly good fine motor skills (mostly due to playing video games most of
my life), but i have difficulty drawing ('cause i can't draw) and it's hard
for me to paint on very fine surfaces (such as on the canopies of model
aircraft that i spent my free time doing) or painting very thin lines.

my defined lack of motor control is shown when i try to get up and walk, which
i can do, but not very well. yoga is also definately out. i am more affected
in my lower body and on my left side. others may be more affected in other
areas. like all disabilities it varies from one person to another and is not
always just like the stock definition.

bob

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From: NU079509@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Brett Person)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: When/where is Closing the Gap?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:45:05 GMT
Reply-To: NU079509@VM1.NoDak.EDU (Brett Person)
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24549

When is closing the gap scheduled in Minneapolis this year? Where
is it going to be held?

Thanks
From: dnmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Neal Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Auto Hand Cantrol Recommendations?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:43:41 GMT
Reply-To: dnmiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Neal Miller)
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24545

My wife would welcome any suggestions for automobile hand controls.

She's currently using a sturdy but clunky twist-to-accellerate,
push-to-brake hand control by Wells-Engberg which has served her
well over the years. It's rugged and uncomplicated, both positives.
But it's quite bulky, rattles even when tightly attached, tends to
get in the way of drivers using the foot pedals, and--most
seriously--takes a great amount of torque to accellerate. Actually,
this seems to vary according to the geometry of the specific
vehicle.  We've two identical controls, both in large American cars
of non-recent vintage.  In one it works with moderate-to-strong
twisting pressure; in the other it requires too much twisting
pressure to be useful in other than emergencies.  The long and the
short of it is that we're in the market for hand controls.

Has anyone a hand control which he or she would especially
recommend? or a brand to avoid?  Post to the net, please, or reply
by e-mail and I'll summarize to the net.

Many thanks in advance.

--
David Neal Miller

Internet: miller.3@osu.edu
Bitnet:   miller.3@ohstmail
From: timpson@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Ron Timpson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: driving lessons
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:48:35 GMT
Reply-To: timpson@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Ron Timpson)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24538

Shelly,

Your best bet I believe would be Calif. Dept. of Rehabilitation.
This is especially true since you need to be able to drive to
obtain and hold a job.  Check with your rehab counselor.  I
assume that that is who did your evaluation.

                                          Good Luck !
                                          Ron T.

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or endorsment by my employer, Lockheed Corporation.
From: Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ruthie Hoffman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: RSD MEDLINE SEARCH
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:04:46 GMT
Reply-To: Ruthie.Hoffman@f223.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/223 - Interstellar System, Vine Valley NY
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24675

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 > Maybe,  he was kidding but my pain went up so high, the whole
 > left side of my head was killing me and I tried using the Tens
 > on it. It was rough. It wasn't a good idea.

You can stop or change the rythmn of your heart if you get the
electrode in the wrong place on you head, or so the instructions
with mine says.

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From: Caleb.Burns@p0.f14.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Caleb Burns)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Handling people who don't understand
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: Caleb.Burns@p0.f14.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/14.0 - Busker's Boneyard, Portland OR
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24684

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Dear Cindy: I'm a civilian here -- I don't have a chronic pain disorder.
I'm a psychologist and I work with some Chronic Pain sufferers. There's
one story I like to tell them, about Samuel Johnson, the father of the
English Dictionary, who was sitting at a formal dinner in England. The
high nobles were there, with silverware, chrystal, etc. Sam Johnson bit
into a hot potato(e) and spit it out onto the plate. Everyone was
glaring at his bad manners, but Sam Johnson glared back and said, "You
know, some damn fool would have tried to swallow that!" (I tell my
clients that "some damn fool would try to go walking", or "make the
bed", or "go out on a boat on a lake". I'm sure glad you're not that
kind of a fool.)
Yours, Caleb

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From: peter@eml3.wrc.xerox.com (Peter Torpey)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Experience with Everest Braille Printer?
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:22:11 GMT
Reply-To: peter@eml3.wrc.xerox.com (Peter Torpey)
Organization: Xerox
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24622

Has anyone had any experience with the Everest Braille Printer
from Telesensory?  (Functionality, ease of use, reliability, etc.)

Thanks.

Peter A. Torpey
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From: Ed.Madara@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Madara)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: facial disfigurement
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:02:17 GMT
Reply-To: Ed.Madara@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/140 - Black Bag BBS, Wilmington DE
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24655

For those people who are left with facial disorders or
disfigurement from cancer surgery, birth defects, accidents, burns,
and related illnesses/injuries, there's a fine national support and
information network called "Let's Face It".

They provide phone help, pen pals, support group meetings, hospital
and home visitations, and networking support.  Their annual
resource listing (available for only $1.00) describes well over a
hundred related support networks, resource organizations, and
helpful books (one example, "The No-Chew Cookbook" for persons who
have that inability).  They cover all disfigurement situations with
the one exception of those problems caused by plastic surgery
mishaps.

The founder of the organization, Betsy Wilson, a facial cancer
survivor herself, is now the chairperson of the National Council on
Self-Help and Public Health that was founded by former Surgeon
General Koop to promote a greater understanding and awareness of
self-help groups.

For more information on "Let's Face It", send a SASE to:

Let's Face It
P.O. Box 711
Concord, MA 01742

If you write, kindly mention how you learned of their work here.
- Ed at the American Self-Help Clearinghouse

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From: BFU%NIHCU.BITNET@LIST.NIH.GOV (Roger Burns)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: USA support groups info
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:46:05 GMT
Reply-To: BFU%NIHCU.BITNET@LIST.NIH.GOV (Roger Burns)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24625

[This is from the "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome discussion CFIDS/ME"
 mailing list <CFS-L@NIHLIST.BITNET>]

[Originally from Trish Jamieson <tronsbox!trish@FDURT1.FDU.EDU>]

----------------------------------------------------

... [Please post] this one message for me.  I thought that it might
be of interest.
I received it with a packet of information from the National Chronic
Fatigue Syndrome Association in Kansas City, MO.  It helped me to
locate a local doctor so I thought maybe it might help someone else.
Thanks in advance.
_________________________________________________________________

The following information is from the National Chronic Fatigue
Syndrome Association in Kansas City, MO.

"We have been advised that the following person(s) may be able to
refer you to a local support group or physician."

ALABAMA
Cheryl Jones
(205)283-3324
Route 3, Box 93
Tallassee, AL 36078

ARIZONA
Larry Sakin
(602)298-8627
Arizona CFS Research Institute
P.O. Box 12345
Tucson, AZ 85732

CANADA
Ann Teehan
(416)841-1737
154 Timerberline Trail
Aurora, Ontario L4G 5Z5
Canada

D.C.
Mary Greenly
(202)966-3863
3001 Veazey Terrace,
NW #1125
Washington, DC 20008

DELAWARE
Judy Derr
(302)239-7848
Delaware Valley CFS/CFIDS
42 Quail Hollow Drive
Hockessin, DE 19707

IDAHO
Tanya Chesnut - PC
(208)773-0733
230 S. Rivercrest
Post Falls, ID
83854

ILLINOIS
Ruth Robin
(312)280-6987
CFS Society of Illinois
P.O. Box 10139
Chicago, IL 60610

INDIANA
Linda Commons
(317)252-9223
Indiana CFS Association
810 N. Bancroft
Indianapolis, IN 46201

IOWA
Lisa Vann
(319)396-3326
Iowa CFS/CFIDS Information Center
114 Sand Lane N/W
Cedar Rapids, IA 52405

MICHIGAN
Linda Frolick
(616)875-7608
11305 Taylor Street
West Olive, MI
49460

MINNESOTA
Judy Basso
(612)943-2769
CFS Association of Minnesota
P.O. Box 385036
Minneapolis, MN 55438

NEVADA
Bette McLean
(702)363-5259
CFS Las Vegas
8600 Starboard Dr., Bldg. 13, #1097
Las Vegas, NV 89117

NEW JERSEY
Bob Landau
(908)351-2012
CFS Association of New Jersey
801 N. Broad Street, 10-D
Elizabeth, NJ 07208

NORTH DAKOTA
Ron R. Zeller
(701)225-6619
403 2nd Street S/W
Dickinson, ND
58601

OHIO
Marilyn McGrath
(513)252-8549
Ohio CFS/CFIDS/CEBV/ME Association
1647 Northdale Rd.
Dayton, OH 45432

OKLAHOMA
Claudette Fiskin
(918)687-6461
Oklahoma CFS Association
1316 Foltz Lane
Muskogee, OK 74403

PUERTO RICO
Sylvia DePurcell
(703)783-2254
Calle Jardin AA-3
Garden Hills
Guaynabo, PR 00657

SOUTH DAKOTA
Kathy Rick
(605)582-2144
129 5th Ave.
Brandon, SD
57005

WEST VIRGINIA
Joan Wildpret
(304)277-1595
129 N. Ninth Street
Wheeling, WV
26003
From: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Salonka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Jaws macros power users #1
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:06:28 GMT
Reply-To: Michael.Salonka@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24599

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Here is a lovely macro that will cut down on key strokes if you have to do
some commands which are very repititious.

In the electronic mail system at work I get memos which I have to pass to
files once I have read them.  What I always have to enter is
"pass  x filename", where x is the number of the memo and then I press enter.

This is how you can create an interactive Jaws macro where all you have to do
is press the macro key, enter a number and press enter.

Pretend you want to use ALT 9 as a macro for the above command.  First enter
control slash to get into the Jaws main menu and then "m" for macros and
finally "r" for revise.

You will now be asked to enter the macro key to define.  At this point press
the ALT 9 key.  Now you are in the revision window where you can build your
macro.

Whenever you are in the revision window and want to enter characters which
will be typed when the macro is executed, all you have to do is merely type
in the keys.  In our case you will want to enter the letters "pass" followed
by a space.

Next while holding down the control shift key, hit the down arrow key and go
into the Jaws function window.  The Jaws function you will need is the "wait
for enter" macro.  You can move there quickly by just entering "w" without
holding down the control shift key.  Next press enter and this will put the
"wait for enter" macro into your macro revision window where you are building
your macro.

Now hold down the control shift and hit the up arrow key in order to go back
into your macro revision window.  Next type in another literal which consists
of the file name followed by pressing the enter key.  Pressing the enter key
will actually put the enter key into your macro.

I will explain the overall macro to you in the next note.

Michael

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From: wtm@sheldev.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Testing
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:23:13 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@sheldev.isc-br.com
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Testing one more time now with oliveb feed
From: Susan.Blocker@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Susan Blocker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HOME EMPLOYMENT
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:02:32 GMT
Reply-To: Susan.Blocker@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/140 - Black Bag BBS, Wilmington DE
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24657

Hello everyone, my name is Susan Blocker and I'm the sysop of
Unique Connections BBS.  If you are Physically disABLED and are in
need of Home-Based Employment.  Call Unique Connections BBS and
download "JOB.ZIP" . If you live outside of New York City I'm
looking for Product Marketers who live through out the U.S..  If
your interested call (718) 527-5556.

Sincerely,
Sue

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