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From: hethmon@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (PAUL HETHMON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Bug or dubious 'feature'?
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:52:45 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hethmon@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (PAUL HETHMON)
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In article <40a-4!C@engin.umich.edu>, jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe) writes:
|> I have OS/2 installed on several different computers
|> and I oftentimes want to transfer files and directories
|> between the two.  I've noticed that OS/2 will not let
|> you copy program objects to the floppy drive.  This seems
|> like a bug to me.  I realize the program objects aren't
|> really files, however they are objects that can be moved
|> around on the desktop and into folders so it makes sense
|> to me that they should be able to be copied onto a
|> floppy and transferred to another system.
|> 
|> On a related note, I find it annoying when I try to drag
|> and drop an object onto another object and get the 
|> "can't drop here" icon when it isn't obvious why.  For
|> example, I tried to copy an entire folder from my hard
|> disk to the floppy.  The folder contained a program
|> object.  Because it contained the program object the
|> system displayed the "can't drop here" icon.  I had to
 
  (stuff deleted)

I would venture to guess that the reason you can't drag and drop
a program object to floppy is that once the object is on the floppy
and the floppy is removed, the settings and path name to get to
that object become meaningless.  Unless your multiple systems are set
up identical, copying program objects between them is not very useful.
A program object on system A will not work on system B, because B is
different.

I would suggest that if you want to copy an entire folder to floppy and
it contains a program object 1) move the program object temporarily and
then copy the folder or 2) using MB1 outline a box (mark) all files
within the folder you wish to copy and then copy them.  It's not
as easy this way, but at least you don't have to copy them individually.

Paul Hethmon
hethmon@cs.utk.edu
From: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: i've seen nt......
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:12:45 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Steve Withers wrote on 08-14-92 regarding I'VE SEEN NT......AND I'L:

SW>OS/2 will do for you on your 386SX/20MHz with 6Megs what NT needs a 
SW>486/50 with 16 megs to do.

Running OS/2 on that particular configuration is a recipe for disk 
thrashing and slowness (I base this on personal experience).  Microsoft at 
least has stated that the requirements for NT (as a server platform) are 
somewhat higher.  Also, you should expect your estimation of the resources 
necessary to run NT to reduce a fair bit from what you have stated: 
performance tuning and the removal of debug code ight just a tiny little 
bit to do with that.

SW>Having used both, I know which I prefer. I also suspect that many, 
SW>many other people will reach the same conclusion.

Not if they run Windows applications.

SW>Once the OS/2 apps are available

Ah - the phrase I have been listening to constantly for the last five 
years (with little change in status, I might add).

SW>BTW, the MS presenter also said that Presentation Manager support 
SW>will be incorporated in NT in 1993. Is this recognition that OS/2 V2 is 
SW>a viable market presence?

More likely it is there for the same reason IBM put Windows support in 
OS/2: to steal market share.  Now in the case of PM there is a lot less 
market share to steal, but...

Roj

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From: rjh@niksula.hut.fi (Rami Juhani Alfred H{nninen)
Subject: ATI and Video7 display drivers, please.
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:57:30


	Are there any OS/2 2.0 display drivers available for ATI VGA Wonder and
Video Seven VGA 1024i display cards. If there are, where could I find
them ?

	Thanks in advance.

		Rami

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From: rgundech@napier.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Drive head parking during shutdown 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:08:29 GMT

A while back there was a post regarding modification of the shutdown procedure
to include drive head parking. Unfortunately, I missed any responses to this 
post. I anyone has any suggestions, could you please e-mail them to me.

Also, I tried parking the heads from a DOS session and then shutting down the
power (completely bypassing the shutdown procedure). This seems to work, but
when I boot up the system afterwards, CHKDSK is always run on each of my HPFS
partitions. This really slows down the boot procedure and is starting to annoy
me. Is there any solution to this problem (besides not parking the heads from
a DOS session).

Please e-mail all responses to me at rgundech@napier.waterloo.edu
Any help would be appreciated !
From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney  bigred@vnet.ibm.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 10:00:59 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HOW to INSTALL Fonts??
Reply-To: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)
Organization: IBM

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)

In <1992Aug17.064054.18544@usl.edu> Stephenson Daniel A writes:
>Hi there.
>
>I downloaded a font yesterday, and danged if I cannot figure how
>to install it so OS/2 System Editor 'sees' it!
>
>Does anyone know how and could mail or post the answer?
>The Master Hep Index, once again, was *totall* useless.

I've been following the Master Help for adding fonts and
using the EDIT FONTs button in the System Setup folder
in the OS2 system icon and the system editor sees them just
fine. Where are you getting stuck? The only strangeness
I've seen is that some fonts require that I reboot before
print driver will handle them.

GregF
From: murrayk@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (the Dodger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Switching to full screen kills communications..HELP.
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:26:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug19.072603.27264
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

Whenever I have a communications program connected to a host, whether it be
an OS/2 program or a DOS program I have been encountering a problem. If I
have a DOS session and I switch it to full screen via Alt-Home, then the
comm program totally forgets that it is connected and I have to restart the
entire program to get back online. This problem is becoming anoying because
it limits me in what I can do while I download.

Does anyone have an answer? My modem is on com4 which of course is com2 to
OS/2 programs. Thanks for any help.

Keith

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From: marty@cs.utexas.edu (Marty J. Sirkin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some questions/comments...
Date: 19 Aug 1992 12:02:25 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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The answer to your question #1 is that you shouldn't have to worry about
reinstalling your whole OS.  I don't know how you got the older version
of UNPACK, nor is it that important.  The problem you had was that when
the files are PACKed, the PACK program places the PACK version number in
the header of the PACKed file.  Then, only the corresponding version of UNPACK
can UNPACK the file.  The program is IBM internal, and not too bright, I'm
afraid.  Even when we ship new versions of software with no change to the
PACK/UNPACK program they create a new version of PACK/UNPACK.  As a result,
you can have the exact same UNPACK program (but with a different version
number) which is unable to function on a file!  Fortunately, I believe that
there is a trend within IBM to go towards more industry standard compression
programs in the future.

    But I doubt this should be a problem for your OS install.  Could you just
have had an old copy of the program (UNPAK) lying around??

Hope this helps,
Marty Sirkin
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: zeglins@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gordon W. Zeglinski)
Subject: DOS sessions
Summary: DOS sessions are not fully isolated from each other
Keywords: dos
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:20:17 GMT

I have just written a peice of code which can corrupt all DOS sessions.
This is reproducible !!  The code is not fully debugged and thus most be
crashing the stack or using improper pointers.

I would guess that it is somehow corrupting peices of the OS/2 DOS code
that is common to all sessions.

Anyone else experience the same ?



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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the title color of Shadow Icons
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:13:58 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <713459988snx@tgm.CAM.ORG> eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier) writes:
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I have several "shadow" icons on my OS/2 desktop which were created from
>several different Folders.  I have an OS/2 shell shadow icon, a WinOS2
>full screen icon, etc.  The question is: How do I specify the color of
>those icon's titles?  Right now, they are the default dark gray color
>used by OS/2, but I have a dark cyan background desktop, so I can hardly
>see them.  Which of the color setting from the Palette Scheme corresponds
>to the color of shadow icon titles?  I tried changing "Drop Shadow" and
>"Shadow Text" but they only work if I ALT-drag the palette on the whole
>system.  Since I have different color schemes for several different
>windows/folders, this is not a solution.

Have you tried dragging the scheme to the folder that the shadowed
icon originated from?  Just a wild idea, but it might work.  For
example, I shadowed the drive icon from the "drives" folder to the
desktop.  So I might try dragging a scheme to the drives folder to
change the shadows' text.

Just an idea.
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From: pfr@drsrv1.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: speed of WPS with ATI Ultra
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:14:40 GMT
Organization: Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin GmbH

I found rather lately that my ATI Graphics Ultra runs in its VGA mode
(I am blushing all over). Well, I installed the 8514a mode and
expected a big gain in speed of the display. But, surprise, nothing
of this sort! The screen is a trifle slower. This becomes evident
with, e.g., the Tex previewer of the EmTex package, which now needs
more time to set up a page.

Of course I realize that the 8514a mode has to 
calculated more pixels that the standard VGA mode. But I had hoped that
the graphics accelerator would be much overcompensating. (Of course I
like the better resolution too).

Am I expecting too much? (In case it matters, this is a 486/33MHz with
16MB RAM).

Wolfgang Fritsch
pfr@psun2.hmi.de
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Date: 13 Aug 1992 20:43:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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>current licensing agreement.  So can we expect Windows NT
>support in OS/2 3.0, when it becomes available next year?
>Obviously, it will require a 486 instead of a 386 and will
                              ^^^

??? why would it REQUIRE a 486?  Isn't the 486 just a spiffy
version of the 386?  (w/ the addition of math co-processor,
8k cache, and some other minor speed-adding design)
Is a 486 required purely because a 386 would be too slow or
does NT require a math co-processor?

david shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu


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From: eckartwe@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Martin Eckart-Weissbaecker)
Subject: ATM and german characters
Keywords: ATM OS/2 german
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:40:12 GMT

Hi,
I'm using OS/2 2.0 (GA) German with the ATM feature,
but ATM does not handle correct the special german
characters (i.e. ae oe ss so called Umlaute and 
scharfes S), the distance between the characters is to
small, the next charcater will be printed over the
previous!
Does anyone have the same problem?
Is there a fix?
Any help will be wellcome,
thank you in advance,

Martin
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Davys Dingbats and ATM
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:43:46 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug15.190530.26030@news.Hawaii.Edu> tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes:
>John Serrano writes:
>
>> I just ftp'ed DAVYDING.ZIP from WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU (in the /mirrors/win3
>> /fonts/atm directory).  It is a symbolic font, similar in spirit to
>> Zapf Dingbats.
>> 
>> The zip file contains the needed files for Windows and OS/2 ATM.  I un-
>> zipped the *.afm and *.pfb files into  the os2dll directory, and
>> installed it via the font palette.  Good to go?  No!
>> 
>> When I selected the font in Describe, I get blank spaces when I try
>> to type something (if I get that far).  Has anyone tried using it with
>> some degree of success?  An inquiring mind would like to know.
>
>There are lots of fonts that for some reason simply don't work under OS/2
>properly.  I haven't tried the one you're referring to here, but there are
>others, including some among the OS/2 archives at the NMSU FTP site, that
>cause very strange behavior.  Some fonts do nothing more than display
>blank spaces, just like the one you tried.  Others display properly on the
>screen, but when you try to print them, the word processor decides to exit
>without being told to do so.  And in the case of CaslonOpenFace, a pretty
>font on screen, the mere act of typing an uppercase 'm' will kill the word
>processor (this behavior has been observed with both DeScribe 3.0 and
>Word 1.1b).
>
>The author of the PFM2AFM converter mentions in the documentation that the
>.AFM file stores more information than the .PFM file, so the converter can't
>properly create all of the information that the .AFM can contain.  I can
>only guess that this missing information is somehow to blame for the weird
>performance of some fonts.

Fonts converted ith PFM2AFM are incomplete.  I can See them in the
Font Palette, and Excel uses them.  Many other PM-based apps use them.
They do NOT work with WPS or other OS/2 2.0 apps, however.  DeScribe
may be using metrics that the converted .PFM file doesn't have.

I installed a Hebrew font set and it worked fine everywhere.  It's
.AFM file was made for the font, not converted from the .PFM file.
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From: cvadrtbc@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: various memory questions
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:22:00 GMT
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In article <9208112312.AA03236@midas.teradyne.uucp>, rogoff@Teradyne.COM (David Rogoff) writes...
> 
>Hi,
>I've been running 2.0 on a 486dx/8meg/220meg clone for about a month
>now.  It is generally fine, but I have a few of questions:
> 
>1)  sometimes programs (I think always winos2 stuff) seems to be left
>running.  They don't show up in the WPS list, but when I do a shutdown,
>it tells me that there are still apps running, and the next time I boot
>up they appear.

I think this is a bug,  some of the DDE stuff remains even after exiting
WinOS/2.

> 
>2)  I get "out of memory" errors for no very obvious reason.  I've got
>my swap set to start at 4meg and grow to within 2meg on a partition
>with 25meg free!  I applied the kernal patch from hobbes and verified
>that the swap file now shrinks, but I still get this error.

I heard that increasing the SWAPFILE size fixes this error for some
people.  Apparently, the swapfile now shrinks, but it doesn't expand
for some people.

> 
>3)  when I type "mem" in a shell, it opens a new window, displays
>the memory info, and proceeds to remove this window before I can read it.
>What's going on???  I've tried to trick it with redirection, but it
>doesn't work.

MEM is a DOS program (it's in the \os2\mdos directory BTW), so when
you run it from a OS/2 session, OS/2 starts up a DOS session and then
runs the program and exits the session.  If you change the Close Window
on Exit option in the Settings you will be able to read it.  Personally,
I have found that there is no reason to worry about memory, I can't 
remember the last time I ran MEM, I guess that comes with running a 
virtual memory OS.

Srikanth
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CHKDSK C: /F:3 ...???
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:53:26 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <7146@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
>The last time I tried specifying /F:3, it told me that that option was not
>valid for HPFS disks. Why does everyone keep mentioning it? Is my CHKDSK
>messed up? (BTW, yes, I tried it after booting from the install floppies.)

That's odd.  The /F:3 is ONLY valid for HPFS disks.



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From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG)
Subject: Re: Request for info about kernel pre-emption and priorities
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:59:27 GMT

db3l@ans.net (David Bolen) writes:
: 
: In OS/2 1.x, I believe the time latency from when a high priority thread
: became "ready to run" (either resource released, or the thread was unblocked
: due to some other mechanism, such as a timer firing) until it got control of
: the CPU was guaranteed to be <1ms.  Not the greatest in terms of real-time
: operation, but not bad for a multitasking OS.  I'm not how much, if at all,
: that figure has been adjusted for v2.0.

I have measured the average context  switch time and the average time
for a high priority thread to preempt a low priority thread to be 
84 usecs and 250 usecs (about - I'm doing this from home so I can't
verify again - my memory got holes) on OS/2 2.0 with WPS loaded on a
486-33DX AT clone.

jin meng
From: "robert fielder" <robert.fielder@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: un:help with chkdsk /
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:04:47 EST
Reply-To: "robert fielder" <robert.fielder@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Roy Schmidt said:
RS>Actually, Robert's method does not do the job due to chkdsk behavior
RS>with the active disk.  What you need to do is run chkdsk from another
RS>active disk (that is, from the A: drive).  To make A: the active disk,
RS>you need to boot from it.  So...

Roy:

Yes, my method does!

If you specify all your drives for the /AUTOCHECK parameter in the IFS
statement in your config.sys file, then they will _ALL_ be checked if
the system is not shut down right.

My method is a bit brutal, but it will work without the need to boot
from floppy.  As long as there are not _active_ applications or
folders when you reset the computer, you _SHOULD_ not damage anything.
However, _THIS IS NOT GURARNTEED_!

I hang this machine fairly often, since it is a no-name clone and I am
always trying weird things.  Every time the system gets booted without
a proper shutdown, _ALL_ drives get checked and fixed!

NOTE- I am refering to a RESET, not to a warm boot using Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Robert

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From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Question about planned features in CSD of future releases
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:40:27 GMT
Originator: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu

What additional features aside from big fixes/Win3.1/32bit GRE are planned
for for the CSD?  Specifically, is IBM planning to make it possible to
recycle the WPS by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del?  The WPS seems to go down and
come up fixed every once in a while when something gets messed up, why
shouldn't we be able to force such a re-cycle?  It seems to me it could
avoid some situations where you must end up rebooting even though some 
apps are still going strong.  A while back a number of people expressed
interest in such a feature...

How about anything else, is there any info out there?

Thanks

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From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Subject: Re: Switching OS/2 windows<>fullscreen
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:39:29 GMT

V. Phaniraj writes:

> Using Microsoft FORTRAN 5.1, all the programs I compile for OS/2
> switch a windowed OS/2 session to a  full-screen one, and then return
> to windowed mode once the application finishes running.

You can change this behavior by putting WINDOWCOMPAT in the .DEF file,
as long as you don't use any prohibited system calls.  If you're dealing
with standard TTY-like I/O, you'll have no problems running FORTRAN
programs in OS/2 windows.
From: masimo@netcom.com (Michael Maas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: colorado tape drives in vdm
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:38:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

When I installed os/2 I installed with the dual boot option so that I
could read my old backup back into the system when necessary.  I tried
using the tape utility that came with the drive in a vdm session and
much to my surprise, it worked! almost!!  It is able to read the volume
labels and present the 5 volumes I have on the tape, but when I try to
look at the contents of the volume itself it fails.  Sorry, I didn't
write down the error number.

Does anyone know if there is something that can be done about this?

Thanks,

Mike
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