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From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Re: Vernor Vinge's new book...
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:26:53 GMT

In article <106183@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.174718.11623@news.yale.edu>, dcs@neutron (Dave Schweisguth) writes:
>>: P.S. Notice how well he's captured the flavor of the Net? I'm sure
>>: that "Death to Vermin" guy's posted here before :-) . 
>
>>If 50,000 years and the computational advantages of the Beyond don't
>>improve network communications, I'll stick with the Slow Zone.
>
>I have to agree.  Reading fake USENET seems pretty stupid, and does
>not feel futuristic in the least.

I agree, too. The fake usenet was just about the only thing about the
book I *didn't* like. 

I was dubious about a lynch mob building up on the net there--the real
net doesn't seem to have many possibilities for turning readers into an
enraged mob, and I expect that this would be even truer if there are
more delays and multiple species of readers.

Nancy Lebovitz
calligraphic button catalogue available by email
nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu

Usenet is like tetris for people who still remember how to read.

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From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Subject: Stanley Kubrick
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:21:33 GMT


   This may not be the right place to post this question; but it's worth
a shot:
   Does anyone out there know what Stanley Kubrick is up to?  I sure
wish he'd take on another science fiction project.  In fact, here's a
good fantasy question:  if you could have Kubrick make a film of any sf
story, which one would it be?
 
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From: tnielson@kirk (THORIN NIELSON)
Subject: Re: Covenant with AIDS
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:18:49 GMT



Just a few thoughts, disagreements, etc.

I mostly agree with SW on this point, but the one symptom that AIDS does  
not have a correlation with leprosy, of course, is the NUMBNESS.

This is absolutely vital to the story as SRD wrote it. The stigmata  
associated with AIDS would be appropriate, perhaps MORE appropriate when  
refering to his dealings with his unsympathetic neighbours. I could never  
quite grasp why their hate was so deep.

But the numbness, that's what made the story special. That's what made you  
almost willing to forgive the obscenity of Lena's rape. I was fascinated  
by my 'near' grasp of his ailment, but my very small understanding of  
tactile deprivation. (Cold hands and fallen asleep limbs notwithstanding).

In the Land, Covenant had to learn to FEEL again.

> 	Where AIDS versus leprosy would fail would be in the  SECOND
> trilogy. If the Creator didn't cure Covenant's AIDS (especially if it
> was fairly advanced to begin with) at the end of the first, Covenant
> would never have lived the ten years until the second, let alone be
> in any shape to  do the adventures in the Wounded Land without 
> hurtloam.
> 
> 	And if his AIDS *had* been cured, he'd be a medical celebrity.

Invalid argument.

To jog your memory, Covenant was NOT 'healed' of his leprosy, whatever  
other physical ailment corresponded as he passed from world to world.  
Therefore, if he was healed in the Land of AIDS, it probably would NOT  
have been manifest in the 'real' world.

Thorin Nielson -
An Artist caught in the NET.



                                     ;;;
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From: jean@noao.edu (Jean Goodrich)
Subject: Re: Dave Duncan
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:02:56 GMT

	_The Cutting Edge_ is set 10-15 years later (sorry, I don't
	recall exactly). Rap and Inos have kids, Shandy is making
	a military hero of himself, the wardens are quarreling as
	usual, and Rap has supposedly made THE mistake of the
	millenium...

	I won't say its as good as the first trilogy, because that
	one was *so* good and I enjoyed it for its novelty. But it
	is good, and worth the price of hardback.

	

	jean

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From: darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III)
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:37:21 GMT

In <1993Jan26.110505.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fscem1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

>	With regards to the lost song of the Tinkers...would
>this correlate to the song that the gypsies and travelling
>people of our world are supposedly searching for - the llano?
>I always kind of thought it did...

An entirely plausible correlation.
The only other time I had heard mention of the Llano, though, was
in (gack) Piers Anthony's _Incarnations_ series, so I didn't even
know if it was a 'real' historical legend.

--
"Marginal Stability... it is annoying but it is benign."
          -Dr. In Soo Ahn, 10-18-91
John S. Novak, III		darknite@camelot.bradley.edu
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: PIERS ANTHONYS XANTH BOOKS????????
Organization: Castle Anthrax
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:25 GMT

In article <C182LC.2z0@naz.edu> krhill@naz.edu (Kenneth R. Hill) writes:
>
>Just one comment if #1 was the only good one, then how come the 
>printed 14 more?  Could it be that a lot of people actually like them?

Of course a lot of people actually like them. A lot of people like
crap. (Especially crap that doesn't have long words or complicated
ideas.)
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"Wait a minute! You guys are NINJAS!"
                ---The Tick
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Riverworld (Farmer)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:22:23 GMT

In article <1jq9ftINN2i4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>I recently completed the first Riverworld novel, _To their Scattered Bod
es
>Go_.  The whole concept is intriguing, but unfortunately, my local books
ores
>tell me the rest of the series (Starting with _The Fabulous Riverboat_) 
re
>out of print!  How can this be?  Anyway, I've heard rumors the story goe

>downhill from book 1: is it worth tracking it down?  Does he ever reveal
the
>secrets of the Riverworld, and does the main character from book 1 ever
>triumph? (Are any of the later books even centered around him?)
>
>Mike
>-- 


I say go for it.  If the series goes downhill, I don't think so.
I love the books, and my dad thinks they're some of the best SF he's
ever read.  And you meet the most interesting people on the Riverworld!

One interesting thing about these books is that Phillip Jose Farmer
has several interesting parallels to Peter Jairus Frigate, no matter
how he tries to deny that Frigate is supposed to be himself.  For 
example, both Frigate and Farmer wrote biographies on Richard Burton.
Gee, I wonder why Burton is one of the main characters in these books? :)

Farmer is a really great author, and you can tell that he did his 
homework by the extensive facts he includes on the characters.  He
seems to be familiar with the most miniscule details of their lives.
That, for me, makes excellent reading.

Incidentally, the plot begins to get rather complicated in later
books, with people turning out to be not who they were supposed to 
be, and mysteries revealed as others come into being.  Trust me
when I say you're gonna love it!

--
Chris Meadows  | Robotech/RIFTS/Palladium fanfic author/editor                  
CHM173S@SMSVMA | They Might Be Giants about Star Trek aliens:                   
CHM173S@VMA.SMSU.EDU   | "Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads                  
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From: robertm@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (MONTGOMERY ROBERT PH)
Subject: Re: Tolkien's (and Donaldson's) style (was Re: writing Styles)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:45:50 GMT

In article <pvanheus.728222497@frodo> pvanheus@frodo.cs.uct.ac.za (P A van Heusden) writes:

> [...]

Well, I disagree with that interpretation of what I said, as
well as with the assessment of Tolkien's and Donaldson's works,
but prefer not to get drawn into one of those emotional threads
we see all too often on the net.  :-)

Thanks to all who replied with information and opinions!

-Rob

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From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:13:55 GMT

In article 1833@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu, bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) writes:
>>Selma's disguise as a credit card
>
>Just silly.  I mean, within the context of the story, it was a good idea,
>but here in real life, it was a cheap joke.
>

I agree that the credit card bit was a bit silly.  However, what I found funnier was
that when Our Hero was first given Selma, he just spoke normally while holding the
chip.  Later, when he was at the girl's house, he held the card up to his mouth and
talked into it like a microphone!
From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Al & Tina (& Gooshie)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:52:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) says:

Possible spoilers of some sort in this.



>Do we really know for sure that Tina and Gooshie are *still* having an affair?
>Ziggy said so in "The Leap Back", but that was a year and a half ago.  Sure,
>Tina married Gooshie in the alternate timeline, but the older Al didn't
>exist then.  I'm not doubting that the affair is still on, but it seems that
>Al would have found them out by now if it was.  After all, it takes one to know
>one.
>
>
Who says that Al doesn't know about the on-going affair.  And yes, I
believe Ziggy from over a year ago.  Al is not an idiot, nor is he blind. 
You saw the looks that Tina was giving Gooshie when Sam said that a part of
him was A.  They looked more than a little nervous.

Besides, Dennis Wolfberg says that as far as he's concerned, Tina and
Gooshie are still an item.

-- 
             Beth Hlabse    eah4@po.CWRU.Edu     Assistant Sysop
                The Science Fiction and Fantasy Sig (GO SCIFI)
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From: eek2@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric E. Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:10:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I might as well put in my 2 cents here.  I believe Burr was a 
traitor.  I think he tried to create a union of the westrern area
to create a new country.  I'm not entirely sure.  About not 
jumping to 1993 and then to another year, they would have to send
the machine to 1993 and besides that if the criminals are
successful, they would want to go to the new parallel reality 
(thats where it fits in, they come from one future and could end
up creating one) and once in the new reality, they could go 
into the future and be the rulers.
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikE '93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:55:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: nyc
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1993Jan22.201159.14149@news.columbia.edu> pff4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Peter F. Farol) writes:
>Sorry, this is only a test.....

Sorry, you flunked....

--MikE...It's only three days into the semester and here I get a test!

-- 
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From: william.johnson@um.cc.umich.edu (William Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Old CBS Sat Morning SF show
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:25:45 GMT
Organization: The Univerisity of Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tibia.engin.umich.edu

Does anyone out there know(and I'm sure someone does) the title of the 
70's saturday morning live action SF show that Jimmy Doohan starred in?
A friend asked me about it and I've been banging my head trying to shake
it loose ever since.  As since brain damage has started to happen, I would
be grateful if someone could help.
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Cap Power comics (was Re: Captain Power - Sauron and Blastarr)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:12:16 GMT

clark@daffy.csee.usf.edu (Matthew Clark) writes:

>In article <C129HJ.GLL@sidefx.uucp>, mayerson@sidefx.uucp (Mark
>Mayerson) writes:
>|> I'm interested to see references to Captain Power popping up in the
>|> discussions of Deep Space 9 and Space Rangers.  I'm amazed that
>|> anyone remembers the series and pleasantly surprised to see that
>|> anybody liked it.
>|> 
>|> I was one of five computer animators who animated Sauron and
>|> Blastarr, 
>|> the two robot villains.  I'd be curious to hear people's opinions of
>|> them.
>|> Please, be honest.  I'd be the first to admit the many shortcomings
>|> of
>|> the animation and the series.
>|> 
>|> If this thread goes anywhere, I'll jump back in with my perspective
>|> on the show.
>|> 
>|> -Mark Mayerson


>I enjoyed the show too and was really looking forward to the second season.
>A Starlog article about the show interviewed Stracynski and he explained what
>he had planned for the second season.  Some really cool stuff...but that was
>before they pulled the plug.  Even the comic book was squelched to kill
>the show utterly.

>8(

Not onyl did they kill it, they almost kileld it before it even 
started by doing the deal with COntinuity, who are utterly *imfamous*
for lateness.

I was so excited when I heard the comics were coming.  I had hoped that
after adapting the story about Jon's father, they might do the second
season scripts that they had already written.

We saw 2 issues in 2.5 years.  I languished, and prayed, and there
were no more.

I had heard that 3&4 were done even.  It's enough to make some of us
write fanfic.

Which some of us did.  Which some of us never got typed (yet anyway).

However, I did hear of a zine.  haven't looked into it yet.  I'll get
around to it as soon as I have time.



LJC, who if she wanted to type stories from 1988 up, would have to transcribe
200 handwritten pages, and isn't quite up to it yet.

-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Battlestar Ponderosa Question
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:24:54 GMT


	Did they ever mention in any episode of Galactica 1980 
whether or not they still had 220 ships in the fleet.  I think
that many would have been blown away after 20 years of
continual Cylon sneak attacks.
						-Quinn
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From: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: QL: Female Episodes
Reply-To: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:32:01 GMT

In article <22JAN199315280216@acad1.alaska.edu>, jsfjp@acad1.alaska.edu (PERRICONE FRANK J) writes:
>
>*Samantha* was fighting harassment from her boss... Gloria, of course, would
>have welcomed the attention, and she was the center of the episode, but
>Samantha was nonetheless being harassed (at least while Sam was there, we don't
>know what Samantha thought herself) 

Well, we know that Samantha was not having an affair with the scumbag,
but he hadn't given up yet. I think she probably wasn't interested, but
'teased' him a little to avoid unpleasantness. ("I can handle him; he's
just like any other man I've worked for.") Nor did she inform Gloria,
about his advances, since it just wasn't anything unusual.
From: jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Time Traxxxxxxxx
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:02:31
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Reply-To: Jason C. Austin <j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov>
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In-reply-to: barry@jab.tucson.az.us's message of Sun, 17 Jan 93 15:05:02 MST

In article <4ikJXB1w165w@jab.tucson.az.us> barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind) writes:
-> 
-> Am I just being overly critical, or is this a sort of quantum leap on purpose?
-> 

	The only thing similar to Quantum Leap is that it involves
time travel.  It's more similar to the Terminator movies with the
machines replaced by advanced humans.
--
Jason C. Austin
j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov

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From: cba@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Brian Abernathy)
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:31:34 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

It premiered last Saturday (1/23), on Channel 36, at 10 pm.  Sorry.....
Maybe they will show it again???

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From: lichter@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Michael I. Lichter)
Subject: Re: Time Trax (possible spoiler)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 10:26:42 GMT

In article <C1873L.8v4@amd.com> ohara@angelo.amd.com (Bob O'Hara) writes:
>One thing that bothered me though...early
>in the show, it is said that caucasians are now a minority.  Other than
>the riot scene, most people seemed to be pretty WASPy.  Did anyone
>else find themselves bothered by this incongruity?
>
> -Bob (a blanco)

Yes!  (And besides, if they wanted to use an epithet for whites, why use
the neutral "blanco" instead of words that already have a charge like
"gabacho" or "gringo"?)  Not only were all the cops white, but the
scientists (except for Frank) were white, etc.  This was not very well
developed, making Dietrich's speech about "we're both white" seem odd,
and Darien's reply "I guess it's good I don't know too many white men"
(was that what he said?) look kinda wierd.

By the way, somebody mentioned that Darien's mother being dressed in
Victorian clothes indicates something interesting.  I predict that (a)
Darien will travel backwards from 1993, (b) that he will meet and fall
in love with a woman in this earlier time period (say 1850's), and that
(c) he is is own father, but in a different universe (remember this
parallel universe stuff) from his own.  

Michael
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Subject: Re: Quantum Leap - Americans only
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:34:20 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

kinsman@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Aphoriel/Kinsman) writes:

> In article <2B5D740F.513@news.service.uci.edu> dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Dou
> >In article <2941.imc@uk.ac.ox.prg> imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:
> >#You missed out England (and the rest of the British Isles), where we speak
> >#quite a lot of English.  However, as most people in the UK know from
> >#"Glitter Rock", most Americans are incapable of speaking the Queen's
> >#English... :-)
> >
> >Nope, you just can't deal with The President's English!

Does that mean that I have to go around telling people that I want to invest
in America and that I don't fear change????  Although I'm not sure that I
can get that Arkansas dialect down, or not.
 
On a more serious note, I'm not sure we really have a name for American
Standard, (unless that's it).  Although it is pretty much TV English.  Also
known as a California accent.  I believe it used to be a midwestern accent
but that has changed in recent years.

> 
> Consider what we have to go through in Canada.  We're obliged to be bilingual
> :) :)
> 


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From: jdraper@andy.bgsu.edu (johanna draper)
Subject: WANTED: Probe episodes
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:49:58 GMT

 I need copies of all the six (?) episodes of Probe for a class project 
 on scifi on TV. Can anyone out there help? I'm more than willing to pay
 duplication costs, postage, etc. Any information on the show would also
 be appreciated. 

 I can be reached as jdraper@andy.bgsu.edu. Thanks for your help.

 Johanna Draper
From: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM (Mathew Clayson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Space Rangers, JoJo
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:05:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: xenomorph


I just saw "haertbreak Ridge" last night, kind of a yawn, but the leading lady looked alot like the actress that plays JoJo in Space Rangers. Does anyone know if they are related?

Mat
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From: nml@hq.lcs.mit.edu (Newton Loui)
Subject: Re: QL Newsgroup
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:50:10 GMT

In article <C1JtCM.IsG@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
asheffie@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu writes:
 >
 >How come we don't have our own newsgroup for Quantum Leap?  It seems like at
 >least half the messages in this newsgroup are regarding it.
 >
 >-Alex

You (and the rest of the readers of rast) will see that your innocent
remark may start a flame-war/argument/thread-that-will-not-die on this
subject.  I refer you (and all potential flamers) to this excerpt from
the Quantum Leap FAQL (via Sally Smith):

---
21.  Why don't all you "Quantum Leapers" get your own newsgroup and leave 
     us alone?

The official vote to create rec.arts.quantum-leap failed on July 25,
1991. An alt.* group has been ruled out as a great number of r.a.t's
Quantum Leapers do not have access to alt groups so to create one
would not be fair to them.  Looks as if you're stuck with us for a
while longer. :-)
---

If requested I will send via e-mail my copy of the FAQL and/or the
episode guide (as soon as *I* incorporate the updates also ;)  ).  I
will *not* post either for fear of stepping on someone's toes (Sally's
or Jason's).  You can get these from some ftp site but I am satisfied
with what I get via this newsgroup so I didn't bother to jot down the
name of the site.

**PLEASE** let this thread die now.

FYI, <asheffie@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> and you other newbies, it
would behoove you to read *all* the articles in new.announce.newusers
and read this newsgroup (or any other) for at least a month before
posting.  Otherwise ... well, we'll see now won't we.

For my part I've been reading news for about a year now.  I just
recently abstained from posting *until* I read all the articles I
mentioned.

But who am I and what's to stop you?

nml
--
Newton Loui                 nml@hq.lcs.mit.edu   or try   nml@csa.bu.edu
 To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and
 the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics
 and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to
 find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by
 a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to
 know that even one life has breathed easier because you lived.  This
 is to have succeeded. -- Harry Emerson Fosdick