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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Through-the-glass antennas
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:17:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.104941.26862@usl.edu> jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A) writes:
>Speaking of Larsen antennas, I was the proud owner of a larsen KG 2/70
>on glass dual bander.  After carefully cleaning my outside glass, and 
>mounting the whip.  I was impressed with it's performance, repeater's I 
>couldn't hit with 5 watts out of my ht's rubber duck, were fully quieted
>with only 220 milliwats.  I gave the antenna all day to sit/set before
>driving off.  Well my love affair was very short lived.  After
>driving about 1 minute at just under 60 mph., the whip promptly flew 
>off of the car and with a clang apparently bounced into a large
>ditch, covered with 2 foot weeds and night.  Now this antenna was bought
>from a friend who never used it, after he called the supplier they
>wouldn't refund cause it had been too long since purchase.
>Larsen would not help, they say no one else has had this problem.
>But as post 30627 shows, they are LYING.  I recommend avoiding this antenna
>and all other Larsen on glass products, because if it fails they will 
>probably stick you as well.

While I generally consider on glass antennas deficient performers at
VHF, *anything* is better than a rubber dummy load used inside a metal
car. You *can* make them stick for at least a few months. The glue
process is the same as that used to attach rear view mirrors. When
they tell you *clean* the glass, they *mean* clean the glass. An
initital cleaning with an ammonia based solvent should be followed
by another cleaning with an alcohol based solvent. That *must* be
followed by another cleaning with an acetone or xylene solvent to
remove cleaner residue. Then follow the gluing instructions *exactly*.
Too much glue is as bad as too little, waiting too long is as bad as
not waiting the required time, etc. Since Larsen can't control how
you cleaned the glass, or how you apply the glue, I can understand
why they would refuse to give a refund.

Note that in hot climates it's not unusual to come back to your
sealed car in a parking lot and find the rear view mirror lying
on the floorboards. This glue process is not foolproof even when
done by factory techs. It's just another of the miseries associated
with reluctance to drill holes.

Gary
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From: scoggin@delmarva.com (John K. Scoggin, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The 220 MHz debacle.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:36:30 GMT
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: scoggin@delmarva.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.delmarva.com

In article 1034@arrl.org, jbloom@arrl.org (Jon Bloom) writes:
> In rec.radio.amateur.misc, bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson) writes:
> >MUSCHINSKE%39A.DEcnet@scfb.chinalake.navy.mil (39A::MUSCHINSKE) says:
> >>And to think the FCC didn't have a plan when it took away 220-222 MHz ;-(!
> >
> >We hams didn't have much of a plan either or we would not have lost it.  Use
> >it or lose it!  With the recent thread on 70 cm close repeaters in mind how
> >many of us are watching out for our microwave bands?  I hope we don't expect
> >the ARRL to come to our rescue.  No slight of the ARRL intended here.  Seems
> >too many hams have the attitude that "the League will save it for us" instead
> >adding our voices to the Leagues.  Bet the FCC got more comments about the
> >no code proposal than the lose to 220-222. <sigh> 
> 
> (Speaking for myself, *not* the League) my impression is that the
> problem was not lack of response by amateurs--individually or via
> the ARRL.  Rather, the reallocation was a "done deal" right from
> the start, and nothing we could have done short of getting a
> Congressional or judicial override would have changed the FCC's
> mind.
> 
> The comedy of errors that has resulted from the attempts to put 220-222
> into land mobile service are an embarrasment to the FCC, in my opinion.
> -------
> Jon Bloom, KE3Z              |  jbloom@arrl.org
> American Radio Relay League  |     Justice is being allowed to do whatever
> 225 Main St.                 |     I like.  Injustice is whatever prevents
> Newington, CT 06111          |     my doing so. -- Samuel Johnson

You are probably quite correct - the FCC has as much as said that spectrum is up
for sale to the highest bidder.  Public welfare, convenience, and necessity which
were supposed to be the guiding rules have fallen by the wayside.  The special
interest groups involved did a good lobbying job and got the spectrum.  Then they
couldn't agree on how to use it.

If we had some really sharp folks running the FCC, they would take the spectrum back
and place it in a pool for later use.  I suspect that the spectrum was under-utilized,
but I agree that due process took a pretty good beating on this one...

Just my opinion.

	- John

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From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTs at Disneyland
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:03:14 GMT
Organization: Late Night Software (San Francisco)

julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
>	Having seen something as blatant as the Kissinger circus, 
>I now giggle when someone queries a modulation method because it is 
>not specifically allowed in the regs. 
>
>	So why do so many people here agonise about whether writing
>down the dots and dashes in an exam is allowable? Why are we so
>concerned about who has squatters rights to a repeater? Do you think
>Henry Kissinger's minders give a hoot as they chatter on a repeter
>frequecy when they rumble into town?
>
>	I think we should do a Kissinger. Look at the big picture.
>Let's examine the charter of amateur radio. Let's do radio first and
>if the Feds squawk, we can deal with them. Do you seriously think they
>have nothing better to do than examine our minutae?

   FYI...
   To the Secret Service's credit, when Mandella and Yeslin came to town,
(San Francisco) they did coordinate freqs with the local Broadcasters Freq 
committee.

                          Tim
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From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ENDURANCE
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:09:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <9301221326.aa13074@COR5.PICA.ARMY.MIL> jkeller@pica.army.mil (Jerome Keller, PPD) writes:
>A few days ago, Joe Mastroianni, AA6YD, invited all of us here in net-land to
>partake of his short story "ENDURANCE" in the Feb issue of QST. This message
>of congratulations is for Joe....

I have to agree! It was a good story and I enjoyed reading it very much!
73!

Jeff

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From: k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer)
Subject: Re: CQ EU de AH1A
Organization: QRM Central
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:34:24 GMT

From article <Jan28.030548.18309@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, by steven@ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Steven London):
> 
> The AH1A, Howland Island operation began on January 25, and will continue
> until February 2.
> 

Does Luigi, AH1A, from Framingham, Massachusetts know that they're
using his call?  :-)

Just curious.

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From: mraz@maverick.AUd.alcatel.COM (Kris Mraz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Voice mail "repeaters"
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:42:42 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu
From: swalton@mail.boi.hp.com (Sean_Walton; 85U524; x3821)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Voice mail "repeaters"
Summary: Soliciting interest in voice mail repeaters.
Keywords: voice-mail repeaters shareware
>>
>A friend and I are currently working on a voice mail "repeater".  This
>device will allow any HAM to leave a message with a registered user.
>This is not a true "repeater" because it will use only one frequency.
>I am wondering whether the software (and hardware) might be of interest
>to anyone.  I am designing it on a PC.  Depending on replies, I am make
>it either shareware (voluntary contribution) or an actual full-blown
>software package.  Please let me know of any interest.
>
>-Sean Walton
>KB7RFA
>swalton@hpbsl12.boi.hp.com

Sounds good, Sean. I've pondered such a capability. One feature I would want
is a packet TNC interface so that DX spots could be received, translated to
voice, and put into appropriate repeater mailboxes for people to pick up
later. What do you think?


Kris, AA5UO                     '~ ~`
mraz@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com      L  
                                   J
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From: nk30@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (JEFF ZELL NK3O)
Subject: WANTED GE MASTER II MANUAL
Organization: AT&T-BL,READING,PA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:22:08 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: ORIGINAL MANUAL ANYONE HAVE AN EXTRA COPY?

	My club is looking for a manual for the GE MASTER II commerical radio.
If you have one or know where I can get one please e-mail me. thanks
		Jeff Zell 	NK3O
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:22957 rec.radio.amateur.packet:3561
From: auj@aber.ac.uk (Alun Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: rsgb gb2rs news  17th november 1993
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:16:24 GMT
Organization: Prifysgol Cymru (University of Wales) Aberystwyth

> Subject: Re: rsgb gb2rs news  17th november 1993

Are the RSGB really going to like having their news published eleven
months before they write it ?


Alun.

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From: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil (Chris McCormack)
Subject: Alinco DJ-F1T Modifications
Reply-To: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:43:54 GMT

A friend of mine just purchased an Alinco DJ-F1T handheld an dwas wondering
what modifications or unmodified commands exist for it.

						Chris McCormack
						mccormac@ee.usafa.af.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: adam@wam.umd.edu (Adam L. Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:03:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.052503.26072@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little) writes:
>
>Actually I submit this as proof that the code requirement causes anal
>retentive behavior in most people.  Fortunately for those who've upgraded
>and resisted the urge to be an asshole or joke in poor taste, there's not a
>100% affliction rate.
>
>73,
>Todd
>N9MWB

Hey Todd,

No kidding.  Jeez, good thing you told me SOME have resisted the urge.  It
almost deterred me from becoming a lowly extra.

--N3NKI
From: kc6sss@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Kissing Cousin Six Sugar Sugar Sugar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NIR-10 DSP Noise Reduction Unit
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:55:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: catnip.6022
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

kp2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Keith Poole) writes:

>I am thinking of buying a DSP "box" (my work keeps me too busy to build
>anything so I have to buy a commercial product).  I am tempted to spring
>for the $349.95 to buy the NIR-10 from JPS Communications.  Has anyone
>purchased one and is it worth the money? 

Absolutely!  Listening to static for 3 hours a day gives me big headaches
when I'm trying to drive at the same time.

Not only does it work well for cleaning up noise on 10m, but it also
works very well for extending the listenable range of FM signals.  Those
that would be too static-y to make out are suddenly clear enough to listen
to casually.

>Specifically, how does it perform on cleaning up CW reception.

Uh, I don't know.  I have noticed that it makes the tones more distinct,
but I don't know if that would be a feature.  If you were in the Bay
Area, I'd invite you over for a listen...
From: brian@ucsd (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rec.radio.info now available by mail
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:12:24 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: brian@ucsd.edu

If you would like to subscribe to a mailing list to receive the periodic
information bulletins posted to the new newsgroup REC.RADIO.INFO, send a
mail with a line

	sub radio-info

to 			listserv@ucsd.edu

Please note that if you are on bitnet, one of the dozens of broken milnet
hosts or a non-Unix host, or otherwise don't have a valid return address
in your From: header line, you'd be better off specifying your address
explicitly in the subscription request:

	sub mymailbox@myhost.mydomain.mil radio-info

or
	sub MEMEME01@DMBHST.bitnet radio-info

or something like that.

Please note that this is NOT a daily digest; the messages are too big to
make it worthwhile.  The moderated postings to the newsgroup will simply
be mailed to you at a low priority throughout the day as they arrive at UCSD.

I do not plan to archive the postings to this group; we don't have the
disk space for it.

Share and enjoy.
	- Brian
From: tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Tom J Farish)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Shareware/Public Domain Software for Theory Test
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:03:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

For Mac useres, the Hypercard HamStacks (Novice through Extra) 
can't be beat!  They are available on several ftp sites.
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ENDURANCE
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:14:11 GMT
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: jkeller@pica.army.mil's message of 22 Jan 93 18:26:05 GMT

In article <9301221326.aa13074@COR5.PICA.ARMY.MIL> jkeller@pica.army.mil (Jerome Keller, PPD) writes:

   A few days ago, Joe Mastroianni, AA6YD, invited all of us here in net-land
   to partake of his short story "ENDURANCE" in the Feb issue of QST. This 
   message of congratulations is for Joe....

I, too, want to congratulate Joe on his fine short story.  While not a sci-fi
enthusiast, I am a fan of Joe's writing and have saved many of his posts.

Joe told me that there is another story in the works that has been 
postponed until a summer issue. 

I'll be waiting to read it.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Sending email from Internet to packet???
Reply-To: johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:00:07 GMT

How do I find the internet gateway address nearest me.

Thanks,
John
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From: baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce A Weisberg)
Subject: FOR SALE---HTX-100
Reply-To: baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce A Weisberg)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:12:10 GMT



	for sale:

	HTX-100 ten meter cw/ssb rig.  Hardly used, about 3hrs all together.
	
	Ten-meter mobile ant, outstanding SWR

	RS SWR meter, 3-30 Mhz

	
	Total price: $200


	Respond via E-mail.
	ALL equipment still under warranty!!
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: mad at a few people for treating points like dirt, but a happy > point
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:02:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com

In article <382710d5c@ofa123.fidonet.org> .>.Thanks.to.Policy.4.1.I'm.now.a.h@f161.n207.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>t it still gives you, as a point, no more 'powers' than you didbefore. In
>fact, nothing has changed regarding points. You're stillconsidered just a
>user.BTW, I like the new policy revision and will urge my *Cs to vote for
>it!            .\\ichele--- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: SunShine PCBoard, 
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>--- DB 1.39/004571


Another fine example of why packet<->internet gateways don't work.


-fred

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: Real hams?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:44:48 GMT

Real Hams - I just can't resist.

    Real Hams use code, even on HTs.  At the base station they use a
    Vibroplex.  In the car, they use a hand key on the steering wheel.

    Real Hams have at least a 20m beam with tower and rotator.

    Real Hams have tube finals, with the tubes visible behind a
    glass window.

    Real Hams have big red wall-mounted Emergency Off switches.

    Real Hams took their first exam before the VE system, when you
    took the test at an FCC office from a real FCC examiner.

    Real Hams use QSL cards for wallpaper.

    Real Hams use separate transmitters and receivers.

    Real Hams don't have computer-controlled equipment.

    Real Hams homebrewed some of their equipment from the ARRL Handbook.

    Real Hams write articles for the ARRL Handbook.

    Real Hams mail their QSL cards bulk rate.

    Real Hams sometimes operate non-CW modes, but always something hard,
    like fast-scan FM ATV, or moonbounce, or experimental HF packet 
    modulation schemes.

    Real Hams own an oscilloscope.

    Real Hams keep a soldering iron warmed up.

    Real Hams make their own PC boards.


					John Nagle
					former KA2XXF 
					(part 5 experimental, not ham)
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:49:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Antenna Question
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, mgustof@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Gustoff) writes:

>... Coaxial Dipole 
>and I have no idea what dimensions the 
>coaxial section should be as opposed to the
>wire ends. The antenna looked something like
>this when completed:

>  Wire       Coax            Coax         Wire
>-----------===============X=============----------

>X = Feedpoint with RG-8 Coax.

>The part where the wire attached to the coax, the
>coax center conductor and braid were shorted together
>and connected to the wire.

First of all, for the 10 meter band, you don't really need a coaxial
dipole.  (Its purpose is to widen the bandwidth.)  Second of all, I
seem to recall that not much bandwidth widening actually takes place.
You really need a stub made with coax on the order of 25 ohms impedance
to make it work right.

But to answer your question, (;~) the two stubs should be 1/4 wavelength
long, taking the velocity factor of the coax into account.  For non-foam
coax, VF is typically about .66.  The two coax stubs should be both be
connected in parallel with the feedline at the feedpoint.  The braid of 
one stub connects to braid of feedline, the center conductor to center
conductor.  For the other stub, reverse the connections.  (Braid to center
conductor, center conductor to braid.)

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mgustof@hfglobe.intel.com (Mark Gustoff)
Subject: Coaxial Dipole Construction (HELP!)
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:53:46 GMT

Some years ago I cut and article out of one
of the Ham magazines on Coaxial Dipole 
construction. I don't remember what magazine,
and I don't even know what year, but I wish
to build one of these antennas for 28.4 mHz,
and I have no idea what dimensions the 
coaxial section should be as opposed to the
wire ends. The antenna looked something like
this when completed:


  Wire       Coax            Coax         Wire
-----------===============X=============----------

X = Feedpoint with RG-8 Coax.

The part where the wire attached to the coax, the
coax center conductor and braid were shorted together
and connected to the wire.


Anyway, I could use formulas or actual dimensions
gathered from articles on such an antenna. Or maybe
there are users of this antenna whom are familiar
with its construction.

Any help appreciated

73, WO7T Mark

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Subject: 757GXII Mars Mod
Reply-To: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:31:20 GMT


Does anyone know the Mod for the Yaesu 757GXII do allow it to work
the Mars freq?

Help will be greatly appreciated.

73s de Cookeville,TN
Jeff, AC4HF
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