From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Don't give up on the Bills.
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:58:48 GMT

iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:



>Well, well, well, I guess we do have some Bills Naysayers in this newsgroup. 
>I understand your anger, it must be awful watching the Bills going to the super
>bowl two years in a row for you (you don't seem to be a Bills Fan).

  I dont give a shit about the Bills... as anyone who has read my posts will
tell you I am one of the worlds biggest Eagles fans, and no other team
matters. I just dont like people posting BS without facts backing up what
they are saying...

>As for Andre Reed and Jerry Rice, I have no argument as to who has been better
>in the past but I was referring to now (the times are changing).
>BTW, Jerry Rice has played in Walsh's pass oriented system all of his career.
>Reed, on the other hand has sufferred thru the eighties of run up the middle,
>run to the left, ....

   I think this is BS pure and simple... the FEWEST number of passing yards
that Buffalo has had since '85 is 3246, and that was in '87 (the strike year).

>I'm sure if Reed had been drafted by the 49ers and Rice by the Bills, you would
>see some different numbers between the two.  Obviously you have not watched
>the two as players (there is more to a receiver than just his stats--i.e.  Reed
>is an excellent blocking receiver).

   There isnt a football analyst out there who will tell you that Reed is
a better blocker than Rice. Maybe he has more opportunity, but Rice is a
hell of a downfield blocker (perhaps you remember a couple of 90-yard TDs
by Taylor that would not have happened if it was not for Rice?). Maybe you
are the one who has not been watching the two players. I have seen plenty
of both.

>You also seem to be very spiteful of Carwell Gardner.  Give the guy a chance?
>How can you expect him to rack up stats that will satisfy you if he doens't
>even get a chance to play (the team is that good).  Again, you shouldn't run
>your mouth about him if you haven't seen him play.  I SAY HE HAS POTENTIAL!

    Only averaging 3.5 yards a carry for the leading rushing team and a team
that averages better than 4.5 speaks volumes for this guy. More than you or
I could anyway.

>As to your point about "lighting up the scoreboard," no this is not every team;sstrategy (are you watching the same football I am?)  Apparently you must have
>forgotten about hmmmm...lets see , Chicago, New York, New Orleans, Denver, SD

     You are completely right... most teams dont want to score as much as
possible, NOT!. I think you will find that despite a team playing ball control
offense, they still want to light up the scoreboard.

>I don't quite think that getting a 7 point lead and sitting on it is "lighting
>up the scoreboard"

     No... its a coaching stratedgy, and one that is highly critisized every
year.

>You seem to be in the dark about Kelly's other two receivers (Beebe and Edwards
>With the two guys injured, the Bills have been using Brad Lamb and special
>teamer Steve Tasker.  #1 has not NFL experience and #2 has to lead the special
>teams.  When Beebe and Edwards are on the field, you need two fast DB's to
>cover them and using two DB's sounds like 1/2 (or 2/5) of a defense to me.
>Lamb and Tasker undeniably do not draw as much coverage as the aforementioned
>two.

    Thats not what you said originally. You said Beebe and Edwards were 1/2
of the Bills receiving offense. I showed you that they were not. 

>Maybe you'be had too much to drink picking the Bills to go 9-7.  You shouldn't
>drink and type.

     I never predicted them to go 9-7. I said a collapse is entirely 
possible (as it is with any team). Its just that it is even more likely
with a team that as expectations as high as Buffalo.

>Denial is common amongst anti-Bills fans.  "Oh there not thaaat goood.  Oh no
>they'll surely lose six consecutive games and then we can win the division..."
>Yeah Right, cut the BS.

   Well, you certainly seem to be saying the same thing you are accusing me of
only about the Dolphins.

>You should gets YOUR facts straight.  As of last week, the Bills had played
>four games and Philadelphia played three. HMMMMMM.....lets see, now, if the Bills played one more game than Philly, maybe they should have allowed a few more
>points.......what a concept!

Okay shithead... heres the FACTs before last week:
              pts allowed  games  avg allowed
              -----------  -----  -----------
Philadelphia      27         3        9.00
New Orleans       44         4       10.00
Buffalo           45         4       11.25

>Have you ever heard of a BYE week??

Have you ever heard of the fact that I just might know what I am talking about?
I think it should be quite apparent by now that I dont make statements without
knowing the numbers to back them up like some other people do.

>On your point about the Raiders D.  They're ranked fifth--BIG DEAL?  There
>offense was ranked #2 (behind the Bills of course) at 400 yards a game!!!

  Even more of a reason for you to worried about them. They are ready to sting
someone.

>They aren't exactly the highest scoring team in the NFL (the Bills are heheheh)
>BTW, look what the Bills offense did against the last "superior" defense they
>played against (SF).

   In case you missed it, SF is ranked 27th in total defense this year, and
it isnt just the Bills that did it. It is beacuse the Niners D is very
questionable and unorganized this year. Other teams (like the Rams) are 
putting up good numbers against them too.

>Oh, and uh, next time you use some numbers, try watching a few games to qualify
>them, huh?

    Next time you try and make any arguments, how about using some numbers to
back them up. Are you sure your name isnt John Gloria?

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