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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:44:04 EST
From: <JAM135@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject:    trident 1024X768 and winos2

I have a trident 8900C setup at 1024X768X256 colors.  I used the
32 bit drivers from ftp-os2 that was dated 12/17/92.  Everything
seems to work fine (a little slow) except I can't run any windows
programs.  There is a beep everytime I try to run them.  When I
try starting winos2 I get the same thing.  I tried starting winos2
from a dos window and received the message "Fatal Exit code = 0x0401."
I followed the installation procedures and even tried installing the
update again.  I would appreciate any help with this.

Thanks
Jon.
From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Modem Problems  - Need Help (IBM: read this)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 12:10:37 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu



I have a question about OS/2 & DOS Comm programs.

Whenever I run a DOS comm program (ie, telix, telemate, procomm, etc),
and start downloading a file, My other DOS tasks crawl to a halt.
It takes about 40-50 seconds to get a dir of the root directory (has about
15 files in the directory I dir).  And this is with NO other programs
running except a dos command.com, and the term program.  Its ridiculous!
I have a 486/33, 8 megs of mem, and a 2400 baud modem.  (256k ram cache)

Now, someone told me to "start my other apps first, then start comm program."
that had no effect.  DOS tasks were still ungodly slow.

Someone told me I needed a 16550 UART (buffered) chip.  Is this so?
(havent checked this out).  If so, I am going to be severly angry with
OS/2 that it cant handle a stinking 2400 baud modem without buffering
hardware.  I know MSWindows can do my download in the Background, and
my foreground tasks are unaffected, and everything is smooth
(like I said, 8 megs, 486/33, etc).  What the heck is OS/2's problem?

Also, this problem carries into some OS/2 tasks.  Nice OS/2 programs
(ones that are polite priority wise), such as Brief 3.1, will hang
until the transfer is over when I tell them to exit, and they take
forever to load.  Normal OS/2 programs are virtually unaffected,
but it IS annoying to have programs LOCK waiting on the damn 2400
baud transfer to finish.  OH, and it does this at *1200* baud as
well.  That is another reason I am mad at OS/2 -- at 1200 baud transfer
will lock slow the machine down.   OS/2 runs smoothly otherwise.

How does IBM hope for OS/2 to succeed when It cant handle 1200/2400
baud communications.  Maybe its just my copy of Os/2.  I am using the
beta Version, however, the original 2.0 had this very same problem,
so nothing has changed performance wise going from 2.0 to 2.01 beta,
in the modem respect.

PLEASE HELP.  Hopefully someone from IBM will read this and tell me
what the hell is up.  Totally ridiculous that I cant have transgers
at 12/24 baud, and still use my machine to do other things.
From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OPTI chipset and OS/2:  Any problems??
Keywords: OPTI, OS/2
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:53:54 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <1992Dec28.210518.14839@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:
>I'm thinking of upgrading to a 486DX/33 motherboard and I wanted to know if
>there are any known problems with the OPTI chipset and OS/2 compatibility?

I am running OS/2 2.0 GA + CSD on that exact chipset with no problems.


-- 
Guy W. Kendall - Applications Engineer          Guy.Kendall@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
NCR Microelectronic Products Division               Voice: 719-596-5795 x203
1635 Aeroplaza Drive                                  Fax: 719-597-8225
Colorado Springs, CO 80916                            BBS: 719-596-1649 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jlloyd@adapcal.UUCP (John Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Adapteck 1522 SCSI interface and support by os2?
Organization: Adaptec Inc., California
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:45:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.172117.24946@st-andrews.ac.uk> mrm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Malcolm R. McLeod) writes:
>I am in the process of upgrading my no name 486 PC and am thinking of
>doing so by adding some SCSI hard drives to the system. Locally I have
>seen a resonable price quoted for the 1522 Kit and have been assured it
>works with the Quantum 240S drives I am interested in, the big question
>is whether os2 will support the interface without haveing to go via INT13.
>
The 1522 (and all Adapter adapters) is supported under OS/2 2.0 and the drivers are included in the
package. If you can afford it I would really recommend that you purchase
a bus-mastering adapter (i.e 1542B) instead. OS/2 2.0 will really benefit
from not having I/O hog the CPU.

jlloyd@adapcal.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: adaptec 1542b install to OS2
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 23:20:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.103808.4830@memstvx1.memst.edu> davisar@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> I believe you may have gotten a query from me on Compuserve. If you answered
>I would have seen the answer since it seems my home computer is on a trip.
>It stopped after I tried [unsuccessfully] installing the 1542B for the umptenth
>time.  Be that as it may, when it returns, I will still have the same problems.
>
>Since posting that msg. [and before Toshiba departed] I removed OS2 and 
>re-installed it with 1542B in place. I noted that 154x.add was added to my 
>config.sys and attempted to continue.  After a variety of attempts at changing
>J6(i believe) pins 1 and 5 and J5 pin 3, all I got were errors that stated in 
>part 60000,  9084     or      60002, 9084    or parity error.  Never did I get
>thru a full boot.

I had problems with getting the GA 2.0 code to work with my AHA-1542B --
the install worked fine until the final reboot; upon reboot the system
consistently crashed. The work-around I found was to just install the SP
CSD to the system (you don't need to boot the system to install the SP -- 
it boots itself from floppy).

Works fine now.

Might solve your problem, too.

orville

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta to be released 12-28 to EVERYONE!!
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:02:57 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1qk9VB3w165w@tcscs.UUCP> zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com writes:
> rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
> 
> > In article <1992Dec22.203941.27754@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.c
> > >
> > >I just called the order desk, and they said the beta code is only
> > >available on CD-ROM.  How can I get the floppies?
> > 
> > Well, someone who works for IBM just left a message on my BBS stating that
> > the 2.1 BETA will be available in 3.5 inch disk images after the 28th.  This
> > could just be a rumor but I doubt it.  Also, on c.o.o.a., I saw that the
> > BETA was to include a fax applet!!!  If someone could confirm or deny this,
> > I would appreciate it.  I hope to have the beta in a week or so from an
> > IBMer so that I can find out for myself.
> 
> I HOPE the 2.1 BETA will be available in 3.5 inch images because I don't have
> a CD ROM yet.  All these new things are great but I can't get it because I
> dont have a CD ROM?  
> 
> IBM is going disillusion more people with OS/2 if they only make this on CD
> ROM.

DONT PANIC!!! 
 
The beta may be on CD-ROM (cheapest way to make it!), but the final release
will be on floppy disks and shrink-wrapped.....only a few weeks from now. 
 
Even IBM can't give everyone everything all on the same day......:-)
 
Steve

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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
+64 4 478 4714                          | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
From: cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: multiple DOS windows, how?
Date: 2 Jan 93 06:05:57 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvetp036

In article <zhao.725934941@unixg.ubc.ca>, zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) writes:
> 
> I have been using OS/2 for several months. There is still one question which
> I am afraid of asking: how can I open more than two DOS (or OS/2) windows?
> Creating shadows all points to the same (ONE) session. Can anyone help?
> -- 
> Jiansheng Zhao
> Dept. Chem. Eng, Univ. of B. C., Canada. V6T 1Z4
> zhao@unixg.ubc.ca

I'm sure you'll get a couple of response for this one.

Just go to the object settings. Go to WINDOW. Change the OBJECT OPEN BEHAVIOR
to CREATE NEW WINDOW instead of DISPLAY EXISTING WINDOW.

This question bugged me too when I first started using OS/2. Until someone
pointed this out to me.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Too many Desktops
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 10:04:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan01.080621.114522@ua1ix.ua.edu> cleslie@ho05.eng.ua.edu (Charles J. Leslie) writes:
> 
>    Hello everybody,  since my installment of OS/2 2.0 (June 92)
> I've been very satisfied with the preformance and versatility of 
> my system, but after experimenting with the USER  and SYSTEM
> .ini files (os2.ini / os2sys.ini)  I came across a slight problem.
> It seems that I have three desktops (OS!2 2.0 DESKTOP, i.m using 
> this one, OS!2 21.0 DESKTOP , AND OS!2 22.0 DESKTOP).  I don't
> know how to get rid of the other two desktops.  In my current os2.ini,
> I have all three desktop mention above but when I converted the .ini
> file to an ASCII format, there's only one.  
> 
> How can I get rid of the other two Desktops?
> 
> Thanks for the help :-) 

Open the DRIVES folder and open your C: drive. The OS!2 2.0 Desktop in use
will be "hatched".  You can just delete the other two using the 'alt mouse
button, delete' method.
 
Steve
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
+64 4 478 4714                          | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:40469 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:34272 comp.os.msdos.misc:6729
From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Question about Parallel Port, please read
Date: 28 Dec 1992 07:45:06 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <BzxDM2.L4z@mccc.edu> pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) writes:
>Speaking of parallel ports, the one on the multifunction card I just got
>has a jumper for "TRUELY BI-DIRECTIONAL" operation where the
>"...direction is controlled by printer 'CONTROL' register as follows:
>	bit 5 of CONTROl register
>	    1	input
>	    2	output"
>

how can bit 5 have a value of 2? 
Do you mean bits 5 and 6?

>If I set the jumper for bidirectional operation, am I depending on the
>printer electronics to set that bit correctly? Do all printers do it
>correctly? 
>

There are three ports that control the printer port:
for lpt1, there is port 378h (data) and 379h and 37Ah for other stuff.
Since bit 5 is assigned at 379, and bit 5 isn't used for 37A, I guess
the control bit is at port address 37A.


>Thanks and happy holidays.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: CDEXPL Won't work
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:31:30 GMT

Clemens Beckstein (clemens@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) wrote:
> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:

> BTW; if you are happy with a CD player less comfortable than the EWS
> program CDEXPL you are referring to, then just use the CD player that
> comes with MMPM/2 itself --- works ok
> (but does not have seek, directory maintenance etc.)

The ability to select tracks is a major advantage of CDEXPL that I would
like. 

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Trident BBS phone Number
Date: 1 Jan 1993 12:25 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


	Does anybody have Trident's BBS number handy?  I only have their
Tech-Support number (408-738-3194)

Thanx in advance!

LISA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: XGA-2 Clarification
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
	<pathak-181292115317@virtual.mitre.org>
	<1992Dec19.160935.1073@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU>
	<1992Dec22.173153.29951@njitgw.njit.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:59:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.173153.29951@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu
(David Charlap) writes:

>   In article <1992Dec19.160935.1073@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU>
>   jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin) writes:
>   >Bus mastering *is* possible on the ISA bus.  The Adaptec 154X SCSI 
>   >controllers have been doing it for years (there are PLENTY other
>   >cards that do it too, but I can't even begin to list them all).
>   >And the 1542B just cost me $251, mail order.
>
>   And Adaptec's non-bus mastering card (1422B, I think) costs about $100
>   less.  That's probably the cost of licensing the bus-mastering
>   chipset.  Radius also has to pay this.

Adaptec doesn't license anyone's bus mastering chip set.  They've been
bus mastering for years, certainly before there was XGA.  In the 1540A
card they did it with discrete logic and an 8085 CPU (actually, the
8085 is probably there to do the SCSI bus protocol).  These days, the
1540B is more integrated (but still has a CPU).

The 1540 costs $100 more than the 1520 because of the market, not
because of any particular technicality.  People are willing to pay
that much for it's performance.  It's universally supported.  The
BusTek (that's not the company's name anymore but I can't remember the
new name) 542 clone costs about the same, so there's no motivation to
drop the price to compete.
-- 
Richard Krehbiel                                 richk@grebyn.com
OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: A strange error
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:24:20 GMT

I have started getting a strange error. It usually happens upon opening a
folder. It says that an application (suually the name of the folder) has
found a problem and can't continue. I terminate the app and then it tells
me WPS has had a problem and can't continue. After this has happened I have
to C-A-D or reset as there is no way for me to shut down or anything.

If I display the register info (sorry can't remember the SYSxxxx value and
I can't reproduce the error on demand) I get the following (every time)

The system could not demand load the application's segment.
PMWPMRI->DOSCALL1 is in error

It then tells me to look up HELP SYS6 - which is nothing!!

Anybody know what is happening here? It has started happening since I have
started PM programming and/or since I got my CDROM drive (with PDK
inserted). I can't tell for sure if or which of these is the culprit. It
could be something completely different.

Setup: 80486DX33, 24MB RAM (ie no swapping to disk is happening EVER),
200 + 125 IDE HDD's, Trantor 130B SCSI controller (no interrupt) Texel 5024
drive (Novemeber PDK with a few documentation icons in a folder on my
desktop). ET4000 800x600x256 CSD Drivers.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cambria@smaug.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Subject: Re: Is 2.0 even worth installing?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:51:29 GMT


In article <1992Dec26.073613.1726@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) writes...
>I have had OS/2 2.0 since the big sale when they were giving it away but
>could never use it because I only had a monochrome monitor. Now I'm
>wondering if it's even worth installing since 2.1 is so close. I only have
>5 Meg of memory. Also I'm still having trouble installing. The old "can't
>find country.sys" problem, which I know is in the faq, is still there. Could
>someone please Email me the FAQ ftp site adress.
> 

FYI, someone here has been running GA on a 386/33 from "day one"
with a monochrome monitor.  They have 12MB.  The PC is a DEC 333C.
So, at least in some situations, GA with a monochrome monitor is
possible.

/Mike
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: karu@nevada.edu (NARANAPITI KARUNARATNE)
Subject: Re: SBlaster 2.0 and 2.1 beta MMPM/2....help?
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:14:00 GMT

I had the same problem with 2.1 beta and sbpro. Here is how I got
it to work.
Install MMPM/2 with Minstall.
Even if you have no Maudio adapter install drivers for that.
In the configuration page click 0 for the number of Maudio adapters
installed. (This is assuming that you have no Maudio adapter in the
system).
Click 1 for Sound Blaster adapters (assuming you have only one).
Click on the correct type of SBPRO (i.e., OPL2, OPL3, etc)
Now choose the DMA, Interrupt, etc.

This worked for me. It would not work if I did not install Maudio
drivers. Also, it would not work if I did not indicate that I had no
Maudio adapters installed in the computer.
Hope this helps.

Karu.
From: czmax@cats.ucsc.edu (Max C. Pritikin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Performance tip
Date: 23 Dec 1992 04:36:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


This isn't entirly on the subject, but oh well. :)

I have been having troubles with my 386-40 (AMD) machine.  

Parity errors (blech.).  I just bought 16 megs of memory and am 
really bummed, BUT.  It doesn't seem to be the new memory.

So, i've been trying out different CMOS settings, include disabling
my cache (64k).

I didn't think it would make much of a difference (as i'm multitasking
and thought that the context switches would nuke most of the advantages
of my cache anyway).  WRONG ANSWER.  I'd *guess* (i didn't try benchmarks
yet) a factor of two speed difference.

the questions:  How is a CPU cache affected by context switches? (about
	how much code is involved in a switch?  about how much code can
	run in a particular application before a switch, etc.)

	How to better track down the parity errors?  (PS, i've reseated all
my cards and DIPS and i've re-enabled the cache (machine wasn't as usable 
without it) and i've NOT had a parity error lately).

thanks,

	-Max
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta to be released 12-28 to EVERYONE!!
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:39:41 GMT


I just called the order desk, and they said the beta code is only
available on CD-ROM.  How can I get the floppies?

- Jim

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: IBM OS/2 No
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:26:10 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <771.177.uupcb@digund.uucp> copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) writes:
>Can someone give me the number for IBM to get the OS/2 CD??

For either the OS/2 Professional Developer's Kit CD-ROM or the OS/2
2.1 beta CD-ROM (with beta Toolkit 2.1 and MMPM/2), call 800-3-IBM-OS2
in the United States.

Each costs just $15.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: Why not standard VESA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:39:35 GMT

<BJT105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>The two seperate issues with VESA are:

>1.  Can OS/2 provide virtual VESA services to DOS apps?
>2.  Can OS/2 use VESA real-mode calls to implement a PM driver or BVHSVGA?

>The answer to #1 is yes, as Bert Tyler points out.  It hasn't been done yet,

Correction: Mr. Tyler said it COULD NOT be done. I stated that it can.

                                                 [sam]sam
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Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 21:46:08 GMT

In article <HkmkwB6w165w@tcscs.UUCP> zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com writes:
>oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov writes:
>
>> In article <laird.725643909@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu>, laird@thistle.ecn.purdue
>> > shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
>> > 
>> > I'd sure love some simple security that would keep people from deleting
>> > files like config.sys.  I thought that something like that was available
>> > for OS/2, but I can't recall.
>> > 
>> > --kyler
>> 
>> Hmmm, I must be simpleminded, but setting permission to read-only should keep
>> the casual user from doing to much harm.
>
>How about doing that, and then deleted the ATTRIB program. :)

But can someone MOVE or RENAME a read-only file?

orville

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Certified Data Processor                         POB 5782, Scottsdale, AZ 85261
Certified Systems Professional                        Voice: (602) 391-0821
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