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From: poser@vxcrna.cern.ch (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Schiller Institute
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:10:28 GMT
Reply-To: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA

In article <1992Nov7.104055.19624@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>,
baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:
> In article <1992Nov5.105209.17836@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:
>>The Schiller Institute is connected with the right extreme FAP and so their
>>courses about Germany might not be recommendable.
> I have to correct myself: It is the EAP (Europaeische Arbeiterpartei = 
> European Workers' Party) not the FAP (Freiheitliche Arbeiterpartei =
> (Liberal Workers' Party). Bot are on the extreme right side of the political
> spectrum.

To give any USAian the correct perspective, the EAP is a direct clone
of the US-party of Lyndon LaRouche. His wife(?), Helga Zepp-LaRouche,
was their candidate for Kanzler in the Bundestagswahlen at least since
'82. They tend to blame everything evil in the world on a humongous
conspiracy between the Pope, the KGB and the House of Windsor (no
kidding!).

> * Joern Baier     (baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de) __o   *

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From: jgmcgill@cs.caltech.edu (Jon Gibson McGill)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: INFO ON MUNICH/OBERAMERGAU WANTED
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:21:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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	I just got back from working in Muenchen for the summer last
summer, and I think it would have been nice to have asked the question
which you have asked, cause it would maybe have given me a little
preparedness.  So, I think you're smart in asking this.

Anyways, there are a million people who will tell you a million
different things about what is cool and what is stupid, but you sort
of have to expect that people have opinions based on their own
experiences and not on any subjective assessment of what there is to
do and what not.  One thing you could do is to just look in a Fodor's
guide and see all the things there are to do in Muenchen.  Travel
guides are usually pretty good, plus they give you a map to show you
where things are.  If you've never been to Germany, you need to learn
how the subways work, and then just figure out where you're going and
what line to get on and then what stop to get off at.  If you ask
Germans about the Hofbraeuhaus, they'll tell you that it's an American
tourist trap, and they're right.  That's not to say it isn't worth
seeing once, but just remember that what you're seeing is not real
German Culture, but rather Walt Disney's version of it.  Munich is a
very expensive city to be in.  Oberammergau is far prettier than the
Muenchen, although there is more to see in Muenchen.  I guess my own
favorite little thing to do was a class in the Olympia Park stadium
where they have a public, sort of, high school for anyone who wants to
go there, and there are a million different topics which you can sit
in on.  
	Well, I hope you have fun! Oh yeah,  I forgot to mention about
Starnberg - a suburb of Muenchen - you should go visit that.  It's a
gorgeous alpine lake with a very ritzy neighborhood around it.  It's
the La Jolla of Muenchen.

Jon McGill


Viel Spass!
From: gilbertl@aludra.usc.edu (Gilbert Man-Fai Lau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: "antifasch." Historik
Date: 9 Nov 1992 00:46:40 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Hi,
	My friend is working on a marketing research in Germany. I will be
very appreciated if any of you can answer the following questions? 

1. Does any chain-store like Blockbuster exists in Germany?

2. Do Germans accept American idea and culture?

3. Do Germans influenced by Americans?

4. How's the entertainment business in Germany compared to America?

5. How's laser disc selling in Germany? (little, moderate or great) If 
   possible, please give me some statistics?

6. How about video game rental business? Do German children like to play video
   game as American children?

7. How often do you go to video stores or theaters in Germany?

Please reply to my email addr: gilbertl@aludra.usc.edu
Thanks in advance!!

Gilbert
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Yehudi Menuhin...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 10:06:51 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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 Thomas Richardson <tr2g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Any reactions to the following (I was pretty shocked to read this):

> BERLIN (UPI) -- World acclaimed violinist Sir Yehudi Menuhin Tuesday
> called for German neo-Nazis to be whipped.
> ``About these neo-Nazis, I believe these people must feel a strong
> response... I have nothing against their receiving 40 lashes of a whip,''

	yep!   my reaction is that

	(a) it wasn't "wise" or "diplomatic" of YM to have made this statement
	    'on the record' (if that's what he did), but as an artist and
	    social and cultural personality, he doesn't have to be wise or
	    diplomatic in his pronouncements on this subject matter.

	(b) it was "questionable" to consider this "news-worthy" and put it
	    into circulation (journalists can be such mindless critters)

	(c) when I think about some of the things I have heard done by
	    the candidates for lashing, I think this is a symbolic statement
	    by YM - with which I FULLY agree (in sentiment) - which isn't
	    intented to be put into practice, but rather encouraging that the
	    laws should be applied to the fullest and harshest extent against
	    any tom-foolery with Nazi ideas, behaviors (and all human scum,
	    in general); yes, I would willingly and personally apply the whip
	    to Nazi scum from 50 years ago, and "reborn" ones today, in defense
	    of refugees and anyone else they decide to attack....
	    ("...words will never hurt me", but criminal action I will not
	     tolerate, and a good whipping "right on the spot" seems rather
	     appealing)


	so, Thomas, how "shocked" do you routinely get when you read about
	"atrocious acts" rather than a few words?  do you start foaming at
	the mouth?!?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Using US ATM Cards in Germany, Europe
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:29:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.011952.13892@acuson.com> salmons@acuson.com (Dale Salmons) writes:
>I plan on traveling to German, Austria, and Switzerland next summer.
>
>Friends have told me that one can use their
>ATM cards from American Banks and withdraw money throughout 
>England and perhaps other parts of Western Europe.  
>
>Can I use my ATM card (Star Network) at Banks in Germany?
>Do most German banks have ATM machines?
>How does the currency exchange work with this?

Recently I went to Germany, Austria and Switzerland for two weeks.
There were a lot of banks with ATM machines but none of the ones
I saw had any "Plus System" type logos on them. I doubt that
US ATM card would work there. I have withdrawn money in Canada,
however. They convert the among back to US$ and debit your account.

In Austria, I saw some "currency exchange" machines. You injert
US$ bills ($5, 10, 20, 50 or 100) and the machine will give you
Schillings. Those machines accept many other currencies too.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser)
Subject: Coming to Germany
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:21:29 GMT


I am a student at the University of Wisconsin - Parkside and plan on
spending the 1993-94 academic year studying in Germany.  My German is no
so good, although through some intensive courses between now and then, I
should be set.  I am also in a band and would like to know what the music
scene is like there.  If anyone in Germany would like to talk about music
or anything that happens to be on your mind, I'd like to perhaps work on
my German by writing with someone and get to know a little about German
culture and what I can expect when I arrive there.

Thanks

Steve
From: kaba@wintermute.north.de (Kai Bartels)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.politik
Subject: Re^2: Notstand
Date: 4 Nov 92 23:05:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: wintermu.1992Nov4.230501.19867
Organization: nothing (absolutely nothing) is organized here!

poser@vxcrna.cern.ch (Till Poser   ZEUS Offline) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.154531.8714@ncar.ucar.edu>,
>siri@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Siri Flocke) writes in soc.culture.german:

>> Hallo.
>> 
>> Habe gerade in einer lokalen Zeitung hier in Colorado ("Daily Camera")
>> gelesen, dass Helmut Kohl den nationalen Notstand (? Zitat: "national 
>> emergency") erklaeren will, um so ein Gesetz zur
>> Einwanderungsbeschraenkung mit EINFACHER Mehrheit im Bundestag erlassen
>> zu koennen.
>> Wenn dem wirklich so ist, wieso regt sich hier keiner darueber auf??

>Weil ich mich erst einmal abregen wollte, bevor ich im Netz ein Gemisch
>aus schreiender Wut und maszloser Aggressivitaet ablasse. Ich haette
>schon fast am Samstag gepostet. Leider ist mein Aerger ueber dieses
>verantwortungslose Gewaesch bis jetzt noch nicht verklungen.

Bei mir kam zu diesem Gefuehlsmischmasch auch noch Gelaechter. Ich hab
mich, nachdem ich die Nachricht gehoert hatte, wirklich gefragt, ob
dieser CDU'ler so bloed oder einfach nur dreist ist (ich befuerchte
das letztere).

Ich hab mir sofort ein GG geschnappt und mal 'reingeschaut, denn auch
ein Notstandsgesetz ist schliesslich ein Gesetz und muss (auch wenn
nur ueber die Definition fuer "Notstand") dem GG genuegen. Ergebnis:
eine solche Form von "Notstand" gibt es nicht! Es ist kein
Gesetzesnotstand und auch kein innerer Notstand (lt. GG); Notstand ist
ganz einfach ein Wort, das dem Stimmvieh passend erscheinen koennte
und gleichzeitig noch offiziell klingt.

>> Bekuemmert
>> Siri

>       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de

Gruss, Kai
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: Michael.Schwuchow@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Michael Schwuchow)
Subject: Re: Luebke
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:56:47 GMT

kring@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring) writes:
>Aus "Kopfsalat. Spottreportagen fuer Besserwisser" von Eike Christian
>Hirsch, Kapitel "Peinlich, peinlich":
[...]
>Wer hat noch mehr Luebke-Anekdoten?

[..]
Ich empfehle das Buch: "Worte des Vorsitzenden Heinrich" oder so aehnlich,
in dem seine Faut-pass gesammelt sind.
Genaueres weiss ich allerdings nicht, ausser dass es nur noch antiquarisch
erhaeltlich ist.
>Uebrigens, ich kann sowohl Eike Christian Hirsch als auch obiges Buch
>waermstens empfehlen.

Gruss Micha
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From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: "antifasch." Historik
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:31:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.serb.120
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota


>In article <rucXr*T82@mania.RoBIN.de> lkv@mania.RoBIN.de (Lutz Vieweg) writes:
>>[...]
>>Faktum ist, dass ich und die meisten meiner Generation in der Schule
>>nicht weniger als 5 mal mit Deutschlands Geschichte von 33-45
>>berieselt worden sind (2*Deutsch, Geschichte, Religion, Sozialkunde),

Ich finde es aber gut, dass die Deutschen diese Auseinandersetzung mit der 
Vergangenheit gehabt haben.  Ich wuensche, dass wir in den USA das auch 
machen wuerde, besonders ueber die Indianergeschichte, usw.  Wenn das ja 
eine unpatriotische Ausbildung sei, umsobesser.  Patriotismus bedeutet 
Nationalismus (ich sehe den Unterschied nicht), und Nationalismus ist Gift.  
Leider haben die Ostdeutschen diese Ausbildung nicht gehabt, und man sieht 
das Ergebnis.  Ich betrachte mich als Weltbuerger, nicht als Amerikaner, und 
wenn alle sich so sehen wuerden, dann koennten wir endlich diese 
gefaerhliche und nutzlose Auseinandersetzungen ueber Nationalinteressen 
beiseiten, und endlich man an die Arbeit gehen, um MENSCHEN zu kummern.
                -- Scott, University of Minnesota
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: feedback requested (Re: Bremer Shakespeare Company - Spielplan Nov - Jan)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:01:26 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	I sent a friendly suggestion/request to Wolfgang <wd@pcsbst.pcs.com>
	to NOT POST the theatre schedule to soc.culture.german but rather
	only to local (to Bremen, north Germany) groups oriented towards
	the arts (around here, it would be  city-name.events  or similar)

	Wolfgang is basically telling me "to jump in the lake" as I
	am "the only one complaining"; whereas I applaud people posting
	in support of the arts (I do so myself around here), but I
	really would rather not see "more of the same" posted to s.c.g.

	Please tell Wolfgang and/or me how you feel about it
	(by email, please!)

	I had suggested to W. that I suspected a misunderstanding of the
	groupname "soc.culture.german" as 'inviting information about
	German cultural events' instead of the discussion forum for (mostly)
	Germans residing abroad, either of topics of particular interest
	to them, or to which they can comment with particular knowledge...

	the groupname hierarchy  de.*  (and I don't know what that contains;
	is there a  de.arts.theatre.events, or de.events, maybe?) should
	be the appropriate home for information of interest inside Germany.

				---Werner

	(some call me a net-policeman, others a "wise, old netter", but I'm
	 perfectly happy to simply discuss the merits of my opinions...)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: oli@math.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Bonten)
Subject: Re: Staat und Religion (war R
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  6 Nov 92 08:26:11 GMT

carl.camurca@travel.com (Carl Camurca) writes:

>Ethikunterricht ersetzt werden. Ich weiss nicht, wie die Rechtslage um
>gotteslaesterung ist, aber die Paragraphen sollten keine spezifischen
>Hinweise auf die christliche Religion enthalten.

Sie enthalten nicht. Das Problem ist eher die Praxis, weil die Richter meist
einer bestimmten Religion angehoeren.
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From: lieser@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Ed Lieser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Die Prinzen
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:05:35 EST
Organization: Test PLease ignore

Die Prinzen apparently *do* have a new album out - Kuessen verboten.
Is this true, and (if so) does anyone know where I can order this to
receive it here in the U.S.?

Thanks,
Ed Lieser
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE (Maibauer, Wolfgang (ZIB))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: "antifasch." Historik
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:50:11 GMT
Organization: Konrad Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE
NNTP-Posting-Host: workm4.zib-berlin.de

In article 24089@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de, rossner@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Alexander Rossner) writes:

>Bevor Sanio solchen Schwachsinn schreibt [...]
		     ~~~~~~~~~~~

>Weiterhin kann ich Sanio nur empfehlen, vor jedem seiner Pamphlete die
>Netiquette durchzulesen, damit er weiss, welche Woerter er besser nicht
>verwenden sollten (kleine Auswahl aus seinem Posting: Arschloch, Nazi, ...)

Wer im Glashaus sitzt ...

Gruss Wolfgang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: kiszczuk@bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Orest Kiszczuk  Hiwi BWL2)
Subject: Re: German surname
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:07:23 GMT
Organization: Betriebswirtschaftslehre, TH Darmstadt

In article <zxmsu01.721561617@studserv> zxmsu01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Joost Schuur) writes:
>From: zxmsu01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Joost Schuur)
>Subject: Re: German surname
>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:46:57 GMT

>In <1992Nov3.184221.1194@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) writes:

>>(A remote cousin, who's done a lot of research, suggests Kicheli???)

>How about 'Kiechli' Thats the name of the current Minister of Agriculture,
>Ignaz Kiechli (sp?) and he's form the south of Germany.

 Ignaz Kiechle

Orest
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Fussball-DFB-Pokal, Achtelfinale
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 10:24:24 GMT
Organization: Romantic Fire Association

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Achtelfinale

Werder Bremen       - Borussia Dortmund 2-0
FC Homburg          - 1.FC Nuernberg    2-4 n.E.
Bayer Leverkusen    - Hertha BSC        1-0
Fortuna Duesseldorf - Karlsruher SC     0-1
Eintracht Frankfurt - VfL Osnabrueck    3-1
Carl Zeiss Jena     - MSV Duisburg      3-2
Hertha BSC (Amat.)  - Hannover 96       4-3
RW Essen            - Chemnitzer FC     0-1


Viertelfinale (1./2.12.)

Carl Zeiss Jena     - Bayer Leverkusen
Hertha BSC (Amat.)  - 1.FC Nuernberg
Karlsruher SC       - Eintracht Frankfurt
Chemnitzer FC       - Werder Bremen

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From: akikod@tom.comm.waseda.ac.jp (Akihisa Kodate)
Subject: Re: goethe institute
Organization: Tominaga Lab., Dept. of Elec. & Comm. Eng., Waseda Univ.
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:56:48 GMT

s91001ra@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Rie Aizawa) writes:
> 
> Hello, does anyone out there know the address of Goethe-Institute?  I would 
> like to learn German.
Hi Rie,

I've already learned german at a Goethe-Institut not in Germany but in
Tokyo. In Japan there are 2 or 3 Goethe-Institut(one in Tokyo Aoyama,
behind the Embassy of Canada) and of course you can get some information
about Goethe-Institut in the World there.
I give you the phone-number of Goethe-Institut Tokyo here.

03-3584-3267

I hope it helps.

Akihisa Kodate(akikod@tom.comm.waseda.ac.jp)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: zennaro@iesd.auc.dk (Christina Zennaro)
Subject: Re: Deutsche Probleme
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:51:28

Wenn die Probleme nur Deutche waeren. In Daenemark haben wir (fast)
die gleichen Problemen. Hier hoert man auch, dass Daenemark sich nicht
so viele Leuten zu helfen kann. Wenn man dann hoert wie viele
Asylanten nach Deutschland kommen, muss man lachen. Da ist aber nichts
zum Lachen. Wenn Leute hier ueber Einwanderfluss von Moslems reden,
muessen wir das Ernst nehmen. Wenn die Daenen gegen Maastricht sind,
muessen wir das Ernst nehmen. Die Daenen sind gegen Maastricht, weil
sie glauben Daenemark wird dann ein Teil Deutslands.

Christina Zennaro
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From: etg10@cl.cam.ac.uk (Edmund Grimley-Evans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Violence updates: it's now up to the others
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:08:09 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

|> According to a representative opinion poll in Germany of INFAS 32 % of those
|> interviewed stated that "nationalsocialism has had its good sides".

Alles hat seine gute Seite, sogar Nationalsozialismus. Ich finde es erstaunlich,
dass 68% der Bevoelkerung diese uninteressante Tatsache nicht verstehen.

Warum kann man keine vernuenftigen Fragen stellen, wenn man das Geld fuer eine
grosse Umfrage ausgibt? Schwachkoepfe...
From: zornow@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Claudia Zornow)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:58:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Toilet names (Was: Re: European's Toilet Habits)
Organization: HP SSD R & D
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german

>|> A difference: Brits call it "WC", Germans "Toilette", Swiss "T'Schissi"
>|> and (U.S.) Americans "bathroom". "Bathroom"!? Do you take a bath it there?

> During the past 4 years in California I have almost never heard "bathroom"
> being used.  It's invariably "restroom" or "men's/ladies' room".

Depends where you are.  In a private home the word "bathroom" is
usually used.  In a public place (e.g. a restaurant) the terms
"restroom" or "men's/ladies' room" are much more common.

I don't believe there are significant regional differences in this
usage, but I could be wrong.  Anyone from other U.S. regions care
to comment?

Also, I've encountered the term "WC" in Germany and France, so I 
don't think it's exclusively British.

Claudia
current Californian, former Ohioan
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Voelkerverstaendigung der Dummheit zum Trotz (Re: Staat und Religion (war Re: Grundgesetz (War: Re: Willy Brandts Tod))
Date: 6 Nov 1992 03:45:49 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu


 bader@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Bader) writes:

> Geht doch in ein islamisches Land...

	der heutige militante Fundamentalismus in einer Anzahl Staaten mit
	islamischer Staats- oder Mehrheitsreligion ist wohl eher ein Resultat
	imperialistischer Machtpolitik christlicher Staaten in diesem
	Jahrhundert als sonstwas.  Ein wenig Geschichts- und Sozialkunde,
	zusammen mit einem bisschen Einsicht und Vernuft....

	mit bloeden Kommentaren kommt man der Voelkerverstaendigung wohl kaum
	naeher, Markus.....
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