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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:20:51 GMT

In <1992Nov9.123032.11645@bsu-ucs> 00bjhoyt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:

>In article <1992Nov4.211537.1740@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_sammonpr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>> I'm new to this system and want to know if anyone has any...
>>             I mean any information on a new Star Wars movie?
>> 
>> If they have started on one, does anyone know where it's to be located at or
>> what's it to be about?
>> 
>> peter

>Right now Lucas is working on a new Star Wars Movie. It it episode I. Don't
>know the title of the movie.  Lucas has said that the movie is to be about
>the adventures of Obiwan Kenobi and Anikan(sp) Skywalker when they were very
>young.  The movie is to be released sometime between 1995-1998...

>Brad

I heard that he was supposed to be working on Episode VII, which is the one
after Return of the Jedi.  This was from an interview someone (a show) did with
Lucas fairly recently.  Obviously, they've already done two of the books, and 
I'm sure are working on the third (which would be Episode IX, the last one
chronologically).  I think you have the dates right, but I haven't heard 
anything about the first three episodes other than they plan to do them
eventually (although whether Lucas will do them is still up in the air). 

Anyway, they're supposed to do all of the last three right after each other,
within a very short amount of time (I think three years!), much like the last
two "Back to the Future"s.  So ideally, one will be released each year for
three years.  
But I think you (Brad) are right; the first three (when they get to them) _are_
supposed to be about Ben and Anikan and the Clone Wars.  Some think doing the
last ones next and doing the first ones last will make people lose interest,
as they know what will happen in the "future."  But most (including me) don't
think so; I would personally love to see stuff about the Clone Wars and how Ben
and Anakin got to where they were by Episode IV (Star Wars).
One thing I think will be interesting is the special effects.  Of course, Lucas
was pretty much _the_ (sorry for any break in thought--we just had a fire
alarm) man for special effects for several years.  Remember how amazing those
special effects were at the time?  Imagine what he'll be able to do now, with
today's technology!  Surround sound, among other things...  He'll probably even
invent some more stuff on his own; he's made that a habit...

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From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Re: The Clubfoot Orchestra (who are they?) - Dr. Caligari/Nosferatu
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:45:48 GMT

In article <malcolm.721432887@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

   Clubfoot Orchestra is a group headed by composer Richard Marriot, based
   in San Francisco. ClubFoot's early roots go back to an early 80's band
   of mostly non-musicians at a club called Clubfoot, and there was an lp
   released under the name Clubfoot that as far as I can tell bears almost
   no connection to the later group which started playing clubs around
   San Francisco in the mid 80's. Marriot's group was a club band doing 
   warped jazz for a while, and an incredible guitarist named Snakefinger 
   used to sit in with them occasionally. They generally played sort of punky 

He probably would still be sitting in if he hadn't died of a heart
attack about 5 years ago.  Talk about a waste, he could really play
guitar.  Saw him live in Minneapolis 3-4 times.  Way cool.

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From: phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Bad reviews, liked it anyway???
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:09:41 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <1992Nov8.091822.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, by swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu:
> Are there any films that you like that received bad reviews?
> 
> What about the rest of you?  What films do you like that did not receive
> good reviews??
> 
> -- 
> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 

    Drop dead fred.
    housesitter.
    ruby.
    Dirty rotten scoundrels.

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keele university. 
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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Re: NEWS: "Rainforest Wood Out of Hollywood"
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:00:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.182921.2007@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:

 <<Lots of banter about the environment deleted>>

>Never mind chaining oneself to the ship.  How about ramming
>fishing boats? 

Please note that the original poster included rec.arts.movies in the
distributing newsgroup on this thread. The subject now no longer has
anything to do with movies--PLEASE REMOVE rec.arts.movies OFF OF YOUR
DISTRIBUTION LIST WHEN REPOSTING. Thank you.




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From: L-Bueno@cup.portal.com (Louis Alberto Bueno)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Until the End of the World question
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 17:12:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

	I saw UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD last April, and the three images
that remain in my mind are:
 
	1 - The Russian bear "I'm searching..." info computer
 
	2 - The flash of light in the sky as the two lovers kissed in
	    airplane
 
	3 - The HDTV displays of our hero's memories
 
	Now of course, if I sit down and really think about it, I'd 
remember the car with the onboard navigation, the weird pygmie children
chanting music (?), the ever helpful guy with loads of cash, the 
stupid private investigator, so on and so on...
 
	I guess all I'm trying to say is that for me, this movie was a
series of images stacked next to each other, and the only link between
them was my imagination and the ever so oft-said "I've seen this before."
 
	Of course, the concept was excellent (as most sci-fi movies are), 
but the film suffered from lame dialogue and an ever-drifting plot. 
Was this the point of it, and I'm just too much of a critic? :-)

	But even so, the whole movie could have been much shorter
(read: get to the point).
 
	Okay, you asked for it, that's my two cents...
 
	Oh yeah, the U2 music at the end (after our heroine is seen
working for an orbiting GreenPeace earthstation and the credits are
rolling) is excellent.. but of course...
 
 
--Louis
L-Bueno@cup.portal.com
From: sallyn@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Sally Norton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Caractacus Potts character
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:04:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology


> WHICH MOVIE CREATED THE CHARACTER "CARACTACUS POTTS"?

        "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" starring Dick van Dyke and Sally Ann Howles.
        The story was written by Ian Flemming. Caractacus Potts was
        the father of the character played by van Dyke.
        It's a musical comedy.
From: 00bjhoyt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: STAR WARS
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:24:29 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <SS.92Nov10072719@wpi.WPI.EDU>, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
> 
>>>             I mean any information on a new Star Wars movie?
>>> 
> 
>>Right now Lucas is working on a new Star Wars Movie. It it episode I.
>>Don't know the title of the movie.  Lucas has said that the movie is
>>to be about the adventures of Obiwan Kenobi and Anikan(sp) Skywalker
>>when they were very young.  The movie is to be released sometime
>>between 1995-1998...
> 
> This has come up a million time. The 3 new books (2 of which are out)
> are NOT GOING TO BE THE NEXT MOVIES! There books. Thats it. There was
> a recent interview with Lucas in the last issue of the LucasFilm Fan
> Club. He stated right now he is still working on Young Indy. In the
> next couple of years he will write the Star Wars movies which will be
> parts I-III. It will deal with a young Ben, and Anakin Skywalker, and
> the Clone Wars. We should see the films BETWEEN 1995-2000. You people
> should read rec.arts.sf.starwars if your truly intrested in SW. This
> has all been discussed to death there.
> 

Lucas also stated in an interview with Roger Ebert in 1991 that the next Star
Wars movies were going to be episodes I-III... One of the big things I'd like 
to see in the new Star Wars movies is a the jedi knights have a huge land saber
battle against an enemy...Would be awsome to see the SFX going into mass saber
battles!

Brad

P.S. For some reason, I can't get into rec.arts.sf.starwars... It's not an 
option on usenet here at Ball State University.
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From: steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff)
Subject: Re: Need Help With Movie Title.
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:13:42 GMT

david@datamark.co.nz (David Rowland) writes:
: It was a comedy about a WWI pilot who has the role of the "detective/
: hero" in the film and has the task of tracking down a prefessor who is
: kidnapped by german spies.  As he goes on his search, he is helped by
: the professors daughter.
: The movie is directed as though it is an old movie where the "hero"
: always managers to overcome every obstacle which he faces looking as
: though its all in a days work. 

"Bullshot Crummond". *Excellent* movie, one of the funniest I've ever
seen. Made by Handmade Films (owned by George Harrison).  Worth seeing!!!!

Steve Malikoff.
steven@syacus.acus.oz.au
From: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need to solve a mystery...
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:41:45 GMT
Reply-To: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1992Nov12.075733.617908@zeus.calpoly.edu> delliott@zeus.calpoly.edu (/dev/on) writes:
>Does anyone know what movie the character "Russel Nash" appears in?
>The only clue I have is that the movie did much better on video than 
>in the theatre.  Possible other clues are that he was born in New York
>in 1942, and died a couple of weeks after a boxing(?) match at Madison
>Sqare Gardens in 1987.  First prize on _Movie Jeopardy_ goes to anyone 
>who has the answer... 

Sounds like Highlander:
	
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Mulcahy, Russell (d)
Bellwood, Peter (w)
Ferguson, Larry (w)
Widden, Gregory (w)
Brown, Clancy
Connery, Sean
Hart, Roxanne
Lambert, Christopher
North, Alan
Polito, Jon
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From: tmpchw@eua.ericsson.se (Chudoba Wojtek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS movies?
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:59:19 GMT
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden


What about "Home Alone" and "Trading Places" ?
And it's Xmas in "Die Hard", too...

Wojtek
From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MOVIES ABOUT BLIND PEOPLE
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:04:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences

In article <1992Nov11.060001.8929@athena.mit.edu> wildman@athena.mit.edu
(Timothy Worsley) writes:
>In article <tmcfarla.721364579@sfu.ca>
>tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane) writes:
>
>>of course there is always THE KILLER, released about 1990, or so.
>
>If you're talking about John Woo's THE KILLER, 1989.

you tell him, Ed


>
>>It takes a poke at dubbed movies from Hong Kong.
>
>It does?  How?  (Hey, maybe I missed something...)
>

uh oh, looks like this guy is from Harvard (inside joke for those who have been
talking about people at the Brattle theatre).

>>BTW, there is a blind woman in the film.
>
>But it's hardly *about* blind people.  There are lots of movies with blind
>characters.  [SUSPIRIA had a blind character.  RED HEAT (Walter Hill's) had
>a blind character.  THE HOT SPOT had a blind character.  THE BLUES BROTHERS
>(Ray Charles)!  MANHUNTER had a blind character (this was even a nontrivial
>role actually).  WISE BLOOD has a blind character (eventually).  And there
>was that Richard Pryor/Gene Wilder flick (in fact, maybe this would
>qualify).  Maybe NIGHT ON EARTH would qualify too.  etc. etc. etc.]
>
>>It is also hilarious!
>
>Hmm...  No comment.

the following comments are related to the above comments but is also directed
to some other people who have talked about THE KILLER at the Brattle and how
people just don't get it:

once again we have someone who thinks that anything not made in english and in
the US is subject to ridicule.  THE KILLER is a serious action film that is
very well made.  I think that a lot of people (specifically male) are
uncomfortable with seeing genuine male-bonding in movies.  I'm not talking
aobut male-bonding where a bunch of guys go out guzzling beers and hootin' and
howlin' at women.  The two main characters in THE KILLER really care for each
other and not in a homosexual way, which some people think.

I hate how people like to stick labels like "homosexual tendencies" to John Woo
films just because its convenient and doesn't rquire any thinking.  Woo is not
ashamed to show his characters with genuine emotions.  Films like LETHAL WEAPON
(all of them) just try to pile on the action so they don't have to worry about
the script.

I think being Chinese, I think I see more into these films then other people
would.  I'm used to seeing these films and know what culture and style they
come from.  Many people like Ed Price and others have been able to watch these
films and understand them in context.  The reason why many idiots think that
these movies are funny is because they have this ethnocentric attitude that
films in the US are the best in the world.  Personally, I think we should
abolish the ACADEMY AWARDS and have a more international award.  This way its
possible to see what else is out there.  Personally, I think that if this
happens the US will be blown out of the water.

quickly stepping off the soapbox

JOSHUA TSUI
THE INSTITUTE FOR THE LEARNING SCIENCES
From: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harald K. Zink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator II
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:02:18 GMT
Reply-To: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harald K. Zink)
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs

In article <1992Nov02.180029.4256@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>For payment, Arnie got a Lear Jet (15 million ?), close to the 
>entire budget for the first film ! Arnie better get a grip !

A grip on what? reality?  In case you didn't notice, he has quite a firm grip 
on it as he *asked* for a  Lear Jet - and got it!  Granted, we might all argue 
that his performance is not worth that much, but then again, the movie would 
not have worked the same way without him.  

Regardless of what you consider his worth, if you asked for a Lear Jet, and the
other side agreed, would you refuse and settle for less?  I don't think so.  
It's called the art of selling yourself, and very few have truly mastered it.  
Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Madonna are two individuals who *ARE* the masters of
it.

Remember, don't condemn the performers.  They wouldn't do what they do if there
weren't people willing to pay for it.  We might disagree about Madonna, or 
Arnold's talents, but as long as people are willing to pay bucks to see or hear
them, they will continue doing it.  Is that wrong?  I don't think so.




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From: render@massive (Hal Render)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: *+++****+CARACTACUS POTTS+_+_+_+_+__
Date: 11 Nov 1992 04:33:49 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
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CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG.  And I believe it is "Calacticus."
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From: nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup)
Subject: amy irving/b.bertolucci/s.spielberg
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:57:12 GMT

Still hoping to find out from someone if Amy Irving is currently married
to Bernardo Bertolucci!

Someone posted back that she is married to Spielberg, but they have been
divorced for a few years and he is now married to Kate Capshaw. Capshaw
was in one of the Spielberg movies, and they have had 1-3 children together.

I thought I had read that Amy Irving had become pregnant by and then
married Bertolucci, and that they had a son.  But I couldnt remember
for sure if he was indeed the person she had married.

Help???
thanks.
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: MOVIES ABOUT BLIND PEOPLE
Summary: 23 paces to Baker Street
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:02:45 GMT

In article <27363@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) writes:
> In rec.arts.movies, v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov9.143239.4963@pony.Ingres.COM>, walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walk
> >er) writes...
> >With all this talk about "Jennifer 8", I seemed to remember a similar film
> .>about a blind women who may have "witnessed" a murder. This film was made
> .>in the 70's (??) I can't remember the star or title, but perhaps someone
> .>can refresh my memory?
> 
> >There was a mystery movie about a blind woman made in the 70's called
> >Wait Until Dark with Audrey Hepburn. A very good movie.
> 
> I agree that this is an EXCELLENT movie.. One of the best "who done
> it" types.. BUT, Audrey Hepburn does not witness a murder in the movie..
> She is manipulated by several criminals in their attempts tp recover
> a"lost" shipment of drugs that was smuggled into the country and accidently
> passed to her husband.

an older version of this story - with some incredible scenes was
"23 paces to Baker Street" with Van Johnson.  A recently blinded
American playwright is in London.  In a pub, between the ringing
of a pinball machine he hears a conversation in the next room
between a woman dressed as a nursemaid and the man she calls "Mr. Evans"
about "more money than the last job .... meet ... Mary on the 10th".
When the police won't listen to him he starts his own investigation
using the skimpy clues he overheard and a whiff of perfume.

very good movie, one of my favorites.


marc colten

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (mark.r.leeper)
Subject: NIGHT AND THE CITY
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:40:30 GMT

                             NIGHT AND THE CITY
                      A film review by Mark R. Leeper

          Capsule review:  DeNiro plays an incorrigible, sleazy
     promoter trying to arrange a night of boxing in this remake
     of the British 1951 film by Jules Dassin.  The main character
     is not likable but the story is told with energy and style.
     Rating: high +1 (-4 to +4).

     About the best thing you can say about Harry Fabian (as played by
Robert DeNiro) is that he has a lot of energy and ambition.  Harry is a
high-powered promoter of sleazy schemes.  In spite of Harry's surface
likability and ever-endearing demeanor, even Harry's closest friends cannot
or should not trust Harry anywhere near money.  Harry is a lawyer who has
become so well known for his ambulance -chasing that he has to supplement
his income by any other scheme he can put together.  His latest scheme is to
promote a night of local boxers fighting each other, but the scheme is
elaborate and the financing shady.  And Fabian will use whomever he has to
in order to make himself a big fight promoter for one night and at the same
time gall "Boom Boom" Grossman (played by Alan King), a well known local
fight promoter.

     Jessica Lange stars as Helen, who owns a bar with her husband
Phil(played by Cliff Gorman), but who is also fooling around with Fabian.
The supporting cast includes Jack Warden and Eli Wallach.  But the main show
is the frenetic Harry Fabian, who is almost never off-camera and seems to
live at 10% greater speed than the rest of us.  He has to so that in the
middle of one scheme he can get involved with another one, like selling
probably-stolen VCRs.  "Sell these for $400, keep $200," his friend Gupta
tells him, and Harry is off on a second scheme.

     The dialogue in Richard Price's screenplay is fast and often funny in a
bitter, ironic way.  Harry's various inter-connected schemes build a sort of
"Mission Impossible" house-of-cards plan where the impossible mission is to
make this cheap hustler into a success.  Irwin Winkler's direction and Tak
Fujimoto's photography pick up the grunginess and oppressiveness of the New
York City streets with the immediacy of hand-held Steadicam.  Popular songs
from the 1950s and 1960s run a commentary on the action of the film, as when
Fabian runs a scam to the tune of "The Great Pretender."

     In spite of a lack of likable characters, NIGHT AND THE CITY shows us
the life of the underbelly and a few interesting machinations.  I gave it a
high +1 on the -4 to +4 scale.

					Mark R. Leeper
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					Copyright 1992 Mark R. Leeper
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS movies?
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:32:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.220638.26276@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>
>Scrooge (1970, rather lame musical version w/ Albert Finney, though
>  it does include a bizarre scene of Scrooge in Hell!)
>--Michael

Hey! This is by far my favorite version of "A Christmas Carol"!
Alec Guinness makes a great Marley, and although many have complained 
about the songs, I find them quite enjoyable! 
And Yes!!! That is pretty bizzare in Hell!
"Father Christmas" is probably my favorite song from the movie,
and I still throw my tape of this film in the old VCR 2 or 3 times in
Xmas season, and probably once or twice during the normal year.

					--Judex--
PS: but my fave Xmas movie is still "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians",
not to be confused with the remake/tribute/ripoff "Santa Claus Vs. The
Aliens"

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