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From: RAICER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Bob Raicer)
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Subject: Re:  Is PL/S a dead language?
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:36:50 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <IBM-MAIN%93010801541278@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET (Leonard D Woren) writes:
 
>
>On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:54:41 GMT,
>   Bob Raicer <RAICER@LSTC2VM.STORTEK.COM> said:
>> It appears that some people believe that compilers for the PL/S family
>> of languages exist only for the 370/390 processors.  This is not the
>> case.  I am aware of PL/x compilers for the Intel 80x86 processor
>> family as well as for the engines used in the 3880 control units.
>> It is highly likely that other processors are also supported.
>
>So what's your point?
>
>/Leonard
 
The point is that several people have commented in this thread that
PL/x is strictly for the 370/390 architecture; that perception is
incorrect and I was simply trying to inform them accordingly.
 
Perhaps you might try being a bit more courteous.
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Storage Technology Corporation
2270 South 88th Street
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From:         "Geri S. Ellis" <ISY5GSE@WMMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      IOCP defn for 8232

Backgroung: MVS/XA 2.2.0 on an IBM 4381-T24
We are preparing to do an IOCP gen for an IBM 8232, Model 2,
and have not been able to find any direct documentation on
defining this device in our IOCP. We have been told by IBM
to define it as a CTC device (use UNIT=3088 in the CNTLUNIT
macro, and then an address with either 32 or 64 addresses.)
However if someone out there has defined one of these, I would
very much like to compare ours to a real working
definition for the CNTLUNIT and IODEVICE macros for the 8232.

Also one other control unit that will arrive soon is an
HDS 7980-2 (IBM 3980 equiv). There will only be 3880
(triple density) disk behind it. Our MVSCP and 4381 IOCP
guide and references manuals only show CNTLUNIT UNIT macros
for the 3880. I have asked IBM but not received an answer
if there has been an update and if we should use UNIT=3980
in the definition.   Guess I could try this and see if we
get a gen error! If anyone has already done this, again
your sample would be very much appreciated!

Thank you all for sharing your expertise.
Geri Ellis
ISY5GSE@WMMVS
College of William and Mary
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:37:00 PST
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Dangling VSAM truenames

> On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:41:00 PST,
>    Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET> said:
> >  I think that someone use :
> >   DELETE name CLUSTER
> >  If you specify CLUSTER VSAM deletes only cluster (not DATA and INDEX,
> >            i don't know why but it's )
>
> This is not true.  Try it.  DELETE CLUSTER deletes the cluster and all
> lower level related objects.
>
  In my VSAM it's work as i wrote, i check it.
  I use MVS/SP 1.3.6 may be it's to old ?
  And of course ICF catalogs.

> >  the only way to recover this situation is SUPERZAP VTOC.
> >  (I can't erase all VSAM files on volume)
> >  I change in VTOC bit PASSWORD PROTECTED end erase file using DISP=(OLD,DELE
TE
> >  or from ISPF.
>
> This type of approach should be used only as a last-ditch effort, if
> you have ICF catalogs.  ICF provides enough recovery capability that
> this should never be necessary.  If you do the above for ICF VSAM
> objects, you'll end up with junk in the VVDS, and likely trouble down
> the road.
>
 all information about cluster, data and index are deleted from
 catalog.
 I don't check VVDS.
 in this case ICF recovery procedures are not usable.

> I cannot imagine any reason for not converting to a pure ICF catalog
> environment.  ICF catalogs are faster, smaller, and more reliable than
> VSAM catalogs and CVOLS, and I don't think there are any negatives.
>
>
> /Leonard

 I really use ICF catalogs

Gregory.
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From: RAICER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Bob Raicer)
Subject: Re: e: Is PL/S a dead language?
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:54:41 GMT

It appears that some people believe that compilers for the PL/S family
of languages exist only for the 370/390 processors.  This is not the
case.  I am aware of PL/x compilers for the Intel 80x86 processor
family as well as for the engines used in the 3880 control units.
It is highly likely that other processors are also supported.
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Storage Technology Corporation
2270 South 88th Street
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:23:00 EST
From:         "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <URJLEW@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: e: Is PL/S a dead language?

> On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:54:41 GMT,
>    Bob Raicer <RAICER@LSTC2VM.STORTEK.COM> said:
> > It appears that some people believe that compilers for the PL/S family
> > of languages exist only for the 370/390 processors.  This is not the
> > case.  I am aware of PL/x compilers for the Intel 80x86 processor
> > family as well as for the engines used in the 3880 control units.
> > It is highly likely that other processors are also supported.
>
> So what's your point?
>
> /Leonard
Well if it were true, i.e. if it was the same language (which it isn't),
then we all might be able to get access to the language specs, and
documentation.
However I am fairly sure that the PL/x languages for the Intel 8086
are a completely different beast. I don't know about the language
for the 3880 control units' processor.
--Rostyk
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:29:00 LCL
From:         Heinz Flemming <RZ36@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject:      MVS update 1/93

Who is also a reader of "MVS update" ?

In the issue of January 1993 Anthony Rudd (the author of the article
"Panel exit interface") gives an example of an assembler program
as an interface to call a rexx procedure.
I've typed in the code, compiled and linked it, but it doesn't work.
I always got a 0C6.
Who also has used the program and can give hints to me?

Heinz (RZ36@DKAUNI2.BITNET)
(University of Karlsruhe, Germany)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:51:00 EST
From:         "David F. Juraschek" <JURASCHEK@GMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Dangling VSAM truenames

O.K. so someone here deleted a user catalog and some page space.  When
they did so, they included a PURGE in the delete command.
But, for some reason, the data sets were only uncatalogged, and the
VSAM space for the user catalog and the page spaces are still out there.

I can import connect the user catalog, but if I try to use it (or
do a LISTCAT on it), I get a strange error.  Implies to me that the file
is corrupted.  I suppose I could repro another catalog into it to get
good records out there.

The bottom line is that I want to get rid of the VSAM space for these
buggerts.  I've tried user delete with truename, but it doesn't work.
(Get a ENTRY NOT FOUND.)

I'd rather not have to zap the vtoc to get rid of these buggerts.
Especially since then, I'll have to clean up the VVDS as well.

Anyone have any ideas how I can blow these allocated VSAM spaces away?
Currently, there is NO catalog entry related to these truenames.

Thanks.
-Dave Juraschek
 George Mason University
From: cudal@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Phil Spruce)
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Subject: VM/CMS Tape Dump Format
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:22:07 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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    I have numerous IBM mag tapes written in VM/CMS Tape Dump Format 
which need to be read by a Unix system.
 
Does anyone know of any Unix software that manages to read (and decipher)
this format ?
 
    If you do please could you email me ?
 
                                     Much obliged
 
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:58:49 EST
From:         Gordon Schumacher <RGSX@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Routine to return jobname

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:36:05 CST Brad Stewart said:
> Environment:
> MVS/ESA - JES2 4.2.0
> DFP 3.3.0
>
> Question: Does anyone have an assembly routine callable from COBOL that
>           will return the jobnumber,jobname, and stepname of the job
>           while it is executing?  Is there an easier way to obtain this
>           information? Thanks in advance!

I wrote one when I was in systems at the U. of AK. ttry asking
SXKAC@ALASKA or SXVLB@ALASKA.....
>
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|Bradford C. Stewart                      Arlington, Texas 76019-0239  |
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:42:00 EST
From:         "David F. Juraschek" <JURASCHEK@GMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Dangling VSAM truenames

Leonard suggest that DEFINE RECATALOG might work in the continuing
saga of the problem I raised a few days ago.

For those of you following this mess, DEFINE RECATALOG doesn't work in
this case (that of a UCAT).  It does work with pagespace or other VSAM
clusters, though.

The rest of Mr. Woren's solution was very sound and I was able to
delete the dangling truename for the pagespaces using DELETE VVR.

I couldn't get rid of the UCAT (we are ICF catalogs) no matter what
I tried.  I ended up HSM migrating the 4 or 5 other datasets on this
same volume and re-initing the volume and then recalling the other
datasets - significant overkill to be sure, but actually easier in
this unique case than AMASPZAPping the VTOC and then repairing the
VVDS.

Just the same, I've really appreciated the rest of this dicsussion
(and Leonard's solution) a lot.  I am always impressed by the amout
of good information and learning that can be gotten by reading this
BITNET list.

Thanks to all who responded.

-Dave
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:52:40 EST
From:         Gordon Schumacher <RGSX@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Automated Schedulers

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:42:04 -0700 <JERRY@UWYO.EDU> said:
>We are currently looking into replacing our atomated scheduler and I
>would appreciate any advice. I have received information on Allen
>Systems "JOBNET", ALtai's "ZEKE" and 4th-Dimension's "CONTROL-M".

I personally liked CA-7 quite a bit when I was working at the U. of AK.
though it suffered (as everything has , IMHO) in some ways when it went
to CA.   My personal opinion and I do not use or support the product
anymore....
Gordon Schumacher

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From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
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Subject: fortran run-time options
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:09:10 GMT
Organization: Temple University

Hello;
 
I started testing out VS Fortran (Rel 5) parallel processing capabiliites.
In that vain, I wrote a short program which calls the same subroutine
in parallel to read data from two different files. The program works fine
and yields a significant execution speed improvement over the seriel copy
of this program. The trouble is that whenever I run this program, I get
a warning saying that only one virtual cpu is being used.
 
Studying the appropriate Fortran and CMS manuals has not helped me find
out where I am going wrong in this process. I compiled the program, loaded
the libraries and the program, and generated a module exactly as the per
IBM's documentation. The trouble is that when I use the run-time option
of PARALLEL (2) to get two virtual CPUs, I still only get one. My module
is called TSTPAR2. When I type TSTPAR2 PARALLEL (2), the optoin seems to
be ignored. I also tried putting some gibberish in place of the PARALLEL
option and it too was ignored. The PROCESSING OPTIONS I used for this
program are OPT(3) PARALLEL (NOAUTO REP LANG), as per the documentation.
I know I loaded the program properly since the module does run, but only
the RUN-TIME options are ignored. This is being done on a VM/XA system
in 370 mode. Obviously, I must be leaving out a step in this process.
What might that step be? Thanks very much for any help you provide.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:49:58 -0500
From:         CFORDE@BCSC02.BITNET
Subject:      re: QMF & ISPF
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cc: IBM-MAIN--AKRONVM

From: Carl Forde
Subject:  re: QMF & ISPF

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:08:50 CST, Chris Hardy wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience with QMF, ISPF accessing SQL/DS on
>VM/ESA  1.1.  QMF@3.1, ISPF@2.2 or higher and SQL/DS@3.2.  I seem

We are doing just that.

>to have a problem getting QMF to access SQL through ISPF.  Iam utilizing
>DCSS's for each component.   ISPF seems unabel to initilize clean.
>ISPF will initilize clean when running standalone.

I'll send you a copy of our QMF startup exec.  Maybe it will show you
what the problem is.

>
>Thanks in advance for the help.

Glad to.

Have fun,
Carl Forde                            phonenet: 604-389-3234
VM Systems Software Group             bitnet  : CFORDE@BCSC02
British Columbia Systems Corporation  internet: cforde@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
From: biol_res@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: <None>
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:31:34 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

Is there any document which lists the steps/procedure that are to be 
followed so that an organization can become a member of the INTERNET??? 
If so is the document available at an ftp site so that it can be 
downloaded ?

We are a small organization primarly dealing with LAN and WAN connectivity 
and are interested on becoming a node on the internet with our own node 
address. We are looking for the procedure that need to be followed to do 
so or the authorities that need to be contacted. Any help or leads in this 
regard would be very much appreciated. You can reply to this account (a 
friend's account). Thanks

Sri Chalasani
DataServ, Inc
Farmington Hills, MI 48331

ps: People who read the RS magazine may be able to help me out. Heard 
that susch an article was published in the RS Magazine in the Aug or Sep
issue. I tried to get hold of one but could not. If you do could it be
mail/faxed to me at 313-489-8403. Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:56:10 CST
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      Routine to return jobname

>  Environment:
>  MVS/ESA - JES2 4.2.0
>  DFP 3.3.0
>
>  Question: Does anyone have an assembly routine callable from COBOL that
>            will return the jobnumber,jobname, and stepname of the job
>            while it is executing?  Is there an easier way to obtain this
>            information? Thanks in advance!

I am no longer in an MVS shop, but while at Wal-Mart I recall an
assembler program which used the EXTRACT macro to get the info you
are looking for.  I'd suggest reading up on that macro.

Larry Holder,  Senior Programmer/Analyst         Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN
The University of Tennessee at Martin            Phone:  901-587-7890
Martin, Tennessee  38238  U.S.A.                 Fax:           -7841

VM/ESA 1.0, VSE/ESA 1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1, COBOL-II, DL/I, SQL/DS, QMF
PSW (Personal Status Words): "Saved By Grace" (Romans 1:16 & 8:38)
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From:         Chris Hardy <CHRIS@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      QMF & ISPF
Comments: To: ibm-main@ricevm1.rice.edu

Does anyone have any experience with QMF, ISPF accessing SQL/DS on
VM/ESA  1.1.  QMF@3.1, ISPF@2.2 or higher and SQL/DS@3.2.  I seem
to have a problem getting QMF to access SQL through ISPF.  Iam utilizing
DCSS's for each component.   ISPF seems unabel to initilize clean.
ISPF will initilize clean when running standalone.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:54:10 EST
From:         Russ Donhauser <A024021@RUTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      x37 Abend Handler Software

I am interested in any comments you may have on Space B37,D37,E37 Abend
handling software.  One company I have found is Empact which markets
X37. Do you run a product from another company or this company?
Would you recommend what you are running?
Is it worth the cost?
Please reply directly if your comments are of the type that need a
long disclaimer. ;-)

Russ Donhauser        RUTGERS, The State University of New Jersey
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From:         "Mike Friedman (510) 642-1410" <SPGMNF@UCBCMSA.BITNET>
Subject:      MVS 'BUILDING' and 'DEPT' fields from NJE

We've recently upgraded from MVS/ESA 3.1.1 to 4.2.  I'd like to make use of the
new BUILDING and DEPT fields for the JES2 separator page, when sending SYSOUT
from VM to MVS via RSCS.

RSCS V3.1 supports BLDG and DEPT fields in the TAG for files sent via NJE.  The
NJE job header fields for those values are only 8 characters each (rather than
60 as supported within MVS), but that's OK with me.  The problem:  it appears
that JES2 doesn't use the information in those NJE header fields when building
its banner page.

Is this an inherent limitation?  Will BUILDING and DEPT be picked up by JES2
*only* from a JCL OUTPUT statement?  Is there any way to get JES2 to use the
NJE BLDG and DEPT fields?  Will I need a JES2 exit in order to make this work?

What's the point of having those MVS-only fields in the NJE header if JES2 is
going to ignore them?  (And, similarly, why put support for those fields in
RSCS if the only system on which they have meaning won't use them?)

(Questions, questions, questions!).

Any suggestions welcome.  Remember:  I'm sending SYSOUT, not *jobs* to MVS.

Thanks.
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Date: 6 Jan 93 23:31:30 GMT
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We have installed STOPX37 in our shop. MVS/ESA IBM 9000-820 etc.
We have been slowly working into SMS.  Before and after SMS it
has worked reasonably well.  We also have POOLDASD package. 
After some minor hissy-fits between POOLDASD and STOPX37 even
this has worked well.  I'd recommend it.  It has saved my tail
having to get out of a warm bed at 2:37am more than enough time
to make it well worth while for me.
-- 
Laws to suppress tend to strengthen what they would prohibit.
This is the fine point on which all the legal professions in
history have based their job security.
                                            Frank Herbert
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From:         Rob Strand <ROB@UCSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      3390 NVS/Fast Write question

I'm wondering why non-volatile storage and device fast write
can be turned on and off separately.

The books say that nvs has to be turned on in order to turn on
dfw--that makes sense.
The question is why would you want to turn on nvs and >not< turn
on dfw?


    -Rob
      From Bitnet: ROB@UCSCVM  From Internet: ROB%UCSCVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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From:         Tim Haiar <THTJ18@SDNET.BITNET>
Subject:      TSO/E exits for PARMLIB command

We are running MVS/ESA V3.1.3 and TSO/E V2.1 and I would like to
authorize the use of the PARMLIB command. Since we don't have RACF, I
need to code the initialization and termination exits for the PARMLIB
command. Does anyone have a copy of IKJPRMX1 and IKJPRMX2 that they
would be willing to share?

Tim Haiar
Regents Information Systems
State of South Dakota
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From:         JERRY@UWYO.EDU
Subject:      Automated Schedulers
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu

We are currently looking into replacing our atomated scheduler and I
would appreciate any advice. I have received information on Allen
Systems "JOBNET", ALtai's "ZEKE" and 4th-Dimension's "CONTROL-M".
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