From: aimar@dxbt00.cern.ch (Alberto Aimar SL/BT tel 2564)
Subject: Re: VMSMAIL: %MAIL-E-NOTISAM (file organization changed)
Reply-To: aimar@dxbt00.cern.ch (Alberto Aimar SL/BT tel 2564)
Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics - Geneva CH
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:01:52 GMT

Hello,
  I just wanted to sincerely thank all the people that have
answered to my posting, mailing me and giving good advice.

But I also got a very unpolite answer (the only one) who was posted by
carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) to whom I explain how he
could have used his spare time in better ways then posting useless insults.

As most of you will not care about Carl's problems, please just type
"n" and skip the rest.



                              
Sincerely Alberto Aimar.






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In article <1d9islINNsqf@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lyd
ick) writes:
|>In article <1992Nov3.110813.17227@dxcern.cern.ch>, aimar@dxbt00.cern.ch (Alber
to Aimar SL/BT tel 2564) writes:
|>>When I copied the files back to VMS I saw (with DIR/FULL)that the
|>>"File Organization" attribute of all the files changed to "Sequential"
|>>Usually the  .MAI files (the drawers, at least)have :
|>>
|>>File organization:  Indexed, Prolog: 3, Using 2 keys
|>>                             In 3 areas
|>>
|>>
|>>And in fact now all the MAIL commands do not work anymore and complain:
|>>
|>>%MAIL-E-NOTISAM, operation cannot be performed on non-ISAM message file
|>
|>Well, your last claim, at least, it a lie.  Only SOME operations in MAIL
|>require an ISAM file.  Other operations might fail, but not with the status you
|>claim.  If you're going to lie to us about the problem, why should we take
|>the trouble to help you?
Do you know what a lie is ? I wasn't telling lies.
The fact that I don't know very well the MAIl and Ihaven tried all the commands
does not mean I lie about it ?
I did my best to explain BRIEFLY the problem and everybody else that could
help did it (without your arrogance).

|>You're a step below the idiots who post something
|>like "MAIL is broken.  How do I fix it?"  Up until now, I didn't think that was
|>possible.
And you really think you are a step above God ??
Come down, poor fella..........nobody is perfect (but you).
We are normal human beings.......sorry for that. You better stay apart....
Seriuos questions:
Why did you bother to insult me ?
Why you did not skip my posting ? Or answer privately ?

You know ?
Very many people answered with a private mail and where very helpful.

|>
|>>How can I changed the file organization of the .MAI files?
|>>Or what trick/tool/command can I use to recover my .MAI files ?
|>
|>Don't use any operations that depend on FOLDERS.  E.g., you CAN'T use DIR/FOLD,
|>or SELECT, but you CAN use DIR, and you can read messages by number.  You can
|>use the command: "COPY/ALL MAIL file_name" to create a new ISAM message file
|>and then all the MAIL operations will work again.
I had all my mails of folders.
So all the commands that I tried, only the ones I tried, just not to tell
you another lies (RUhappy?)Again: everybody else, but you, understood it.

|>
|>If what I've suggested doesn't work (and I doubt that it will, but it's the
|>best guess I can make given that you've lied to us about what your actual
|>problem is), then repost, BUT THIS TIME TELL US THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW MAIL IS
|>ACTING, turkey.
Ehi God, calm down ok ?

Seeing  your kind of reaction to my request for help I would liek to suggest you
something can I ?

        ``Carl, my dear, why dont you go to see a good doctor ?''

|>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
|>
|>Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
|>understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
|>unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
|>organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
|>hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
He slept, he stole, he was rude to the customers.  Still, there goes the
best damned employee a convenience store ever had.
-- Apu on Homer, ``Lisa's Pony''

Take Care fella.
Ciao.

Alberto Aimar.                "Who Wills, Can
aimar@vxcrna.cern.ch           Who Tries, Does
CERN Geneva (CH)               Who Loves, Lives" (Anne McCaffery)
                                                                             
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