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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:23:14 EDT
From:         tosello@CU8.CRL.AECL.CA
Subject:      Greensheet/Outlook Communications

Hi Mr. Boris Volk

Sorry to bother the whole list on these questions but I tried to email
you directly and it bounced.  Recently, you wrote to HomeSat about a system
you purchased from Greensheet.

>
>		Channel Master 10' 4 peice mesh dish - $350
>		Horizon-Horizon mount		     -  300
>		C/Ku feed -
>		(Choice of CoRotor or National ADL   -  109
>		.7 dB Ku LNB - US Elect. (Gardiner)  -  109
>		25 degree C band LNB Gardiner	         99
>                150' Ribbon cable		         75
>		Surge protector - 6 outlet	        150
>						       -----
>						       1193
>
> Package price: 1050 + shipping (about $100)
>
> The phone number for Outlook Communications is 908-707-1800
>
>Happy shopping
>Boris Volk

____________________________________________
I noticed that you're from Canada and I've got a few questions for you if
you don't mind.  Are these Canadian prices that you
quote?  How does Canada Custom treat satellite equipment?  Is it duty-free?
Any trouble in shipping?  I assume your friend was taking his IRD to to his
new home?  How do you like Greensheet?  Is it worthwhile to join?  Any
other
dealings with other mail order companies?

Thanks for your time!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Gabe Tosello
AECL Research
Chalk River Labs
tosello@cu8.crl.aecl.ca
From: pitcome@wkuvx1.bitnet
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Subject: Yesterday USA?
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:14:10 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Is Yesterday USA off the air?  I can no longer receive it on the
satellites it used to be on. 
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:11:56 -0500
From:         Russ Crisp <CRISP@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH SYNDICATION SHOW FEED FOUND!

I found the show on T1/13 at 11:30 pm ET last night.  He apparently
must have several feeds.  The transponder went off at midnite.

Dittos!
Russ Crisp
From: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 
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Subject: March for dish owners
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:34:00 GMT
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Reply-To: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 

This some news item concerning the cable bill which has something to
do with home dish ownership here in the USA.



      P-L-E-A-S-E   E-X-P-E-D-I-T-E   D-I-S-T-R-I-B-U-T-I-O-N

                +--------------------------------+
                | Television Viewers of America  |
                |   proposed Protest March in    |
                |  Washington aganist possible   |
                | Bush veto of Cable legislation |
                +--------------------------------+

        Gary Frink of TVA says he is working on this to be
        held in Lafayette park across from the White House
        on Monday September 21, 1992.

        Gary says if proper permits can be obtained it will
        take place. A recorded update will be available by
        phone after 12 noon Thursday the 17th at (202) 508-1450.
        For those that can possibly make it check in Thursday.

        For TVRO system owners a final update will be given on
        Friday night on Spacenet 2, Channel 7, 7.5 audio between
        8:00pm and 10:00 ET.

                                                                                                      
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 11:35:35 CDT
From: Boban Miskic <U59005@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Don't quite get it.

Considering buying a used set-up and really haven't got a clue.
Sounds like a good deal (as in cheap) - but no real clue as to
what to look for/at.
Also some people i've heard pay a monthly fee (not financing)
for a feed.  I thought the whole purpose was to avoid all
that crap like with the cable companies.
Also how do they lock you out (prevent) you from watching
certain shows/stations?

Thanks for any help
-Bob
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: New Channel on Anik E2 /Ku band
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:17:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I've noticed a new channel has appeared on Anik E2 in the Ku band.  It's
full of sparkles, so I'm assuming that this channel employs a "national beam".

This channel identifies as the "Vision Channel", but "The Politically
Correct Channel" might be a better name. ;-)  I've seen a number of programs
that blame all of Canada's ills on the Patriarchy and men-in-general!

To be fair, I've also seen a number of TV preachers (but not Gene Scott)
begging for money as well.  Also, last night, there was a documentary on
Desmond Tutu.

On my Pansat receiver, this channel appears at the "low" end of the dial
(channels 1,2 or 3).  By contrast, ASN appears as channel 32.

Should you decide to give a listen to this channel, please let me know what
you think of their audio.  To my ear it sounds clipped or raspy.  I thought
that perhaps I was just off frequency with my receiver, but my attempts to
tune the audio in have proved unsuccessful.  It still sounds clipped!

Terry
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"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: sci-fi channel (video tuning)
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:48:58 GMT

Anyone else noticed that they are not center tuned (video)?

About +8Mhz off center...or is my old/faithful Tracker 8 up
to some new tricks?

--alen
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:17:20 -0700
From:         "(Bob Wier)" <rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Feeds

 Up at the Telluride film festival (close to where I live in my "real
 life" away from Flagstaff) over Labor day, there was a film premiered
 called "Feeds", which is a collection of clips from, you guessed it,
 satellite TV.  This is from the producer of such films as "The Atomic
 Cafe" (I forget his/her name).  It deals mainly with what politicans do
 when the feed is on, but they are not on the air. It is said to be
 very revealing about the personalities involved (particularly Bush, Clinton,
 and Brown). But we already knew that, didn't we?

 Anyway it might be worthwhile catching if you have an "art" cinema somewhere
 close to where you live (or if it turns up on PBS or something).


 - Bob Wier

  ---------- insert favorite standard disclaimers here ----------
                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | BITNET: WIER@NAUVAX | WB5KXH
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Cable nag ad
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 20:05:08 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

I wrote the following in the TVRO echo on FidoNet, and I figured
it would be of interest for those of us on Usenet as well:

---begin---begin---begin---

I saw the latest round of what the cable folks are doing.  I saw an ad
showing a person being handed an umbrella, a metaphor of the consumer
and HR4850/S12. They likened--falsely--that HR4850/S12 "will make your
bill go up, not down" visually by making it rain under the umbrella
instead of around it.  They don't say how, nor do they give any
information to corroborate any of their claims, ah, but they DO give out
a toll-free number "to call your Congresspeople" to oppose these bills.
What it is, in fact, is Western Union on behalf of the NCTA relaying
telegrams in the callers' names to their respective Congressfolk. I
almost gave out all of my particulars, but caught myself JUST in time to
ask who I was actually talking to.  I had only given them my ZIP Code.

Word of advice:  If you DO want to call the number to extract more
information than I already have, WHATEVER YOU DO, DO _NOT_ GIVE YOUR
ADDRESS!!!!  MAKE ASKING ALL IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THE _FIRST_ ITEM ON
YOUR AGENDA!!!!!  Since they are doing their work on behalf of the NCTA,
I wouldn't expect them to send the message you want them to send, and of
course, that message is in fact to say "yes" to both bills, which I'm
told, have already been passed, both by veto-proof margins.  I guess
it's a compromise bill that's holding the process up.

If you want to hassle Western Union, and make sure they send OUR message
instead of the NCTA's message, that number is (800) 435-9933.  Haven't
tried THAT one, but you can be sure that I will try.  Next time, I'm
calling from a pay phone.

Ian

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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Sci-fi...new shows
Organization: DSC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:29:02 GMT

In article <alen.715976601@crash>, alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:
> 
> The story so far, first there was Star Trek (I'm not going back further).
> Then ST:TNG, soon there will be "Deep Star 6 (or 9 or whatever) from
> Paramount. On CNN yesterday I heard a mention of a Warner Bros. show
> called Babylon 5.
> 
> Any info on Deep Star and/or Babylon. Will/does Warner ship their
> shows via sat? When...when...when?
> 

The show is Star Trek: Deep Space 9. This is a spinoff of Star Trek: The
Next Generation. It takes place on an abandoned alien space station near
a stable wormhole. One character from the Enterprise will be there, several
others will make appearances. It begins in January, 1993, I believe.

Babylon 5 is similar, takes place on a space station. I haven't learned too
much about that, but I hear its sets and production values are outstanding.
I think it starts early next year, too.

No uplink information yet. I assume both will be uplinked on T301. Paramount's
feeds have been in the clear, and so have Warner's. I assume they'll stay that
way.

There are FAQLs on both these shows, but I don't know where. Maybe someone
else out there knows.

Larry


> --alen
> alen@crash.cts.com
> 
> 
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:42:19 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: No PAD this week

>flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:
>>I set up to do this week's data transmission for LTR, but unfortunately I was
>>unable to make the modem work (The one Tom Hunter donated to the project)
>>
>>We need to explore a reliable and inexpensive way to up the baud rate.

>You might look at Bell 202j format as used by the
>Caller*ID system and amateur packet radio modems.


How widely available is this.  I asked our listenership if anyone had 202 and
not a single listener called.

Going to 202 would not be worth it unless the modems could be had for around
$20 in quantity.

What we really need is a 9600 baud reliable system that can be purchased by
our listeners.  Something like SKYLINK or X*PRESS X*CHANGE.  There has to be
some kind of standard out there.

I know that there are people on USENET that have 202, but how many of THEM
are LTRN listeners?  I don't want to put a transmission on that only 3 or 4
people can receive, that would be counter productive.  On the other hand if
the hardware could be acquired by the listeners in quantity, then it would be
worth pursuing.

I am open to ideas.

But I think 1200 is not the next step.  I think if we are gonna do this thing
we need to get it up to 9600 at least, and do it cheaply enough that everyone
can play.

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From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: record ouptut on monterey unit  stays on
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i just got a call form chapparal and am passing it on.

(1) the record output on the monterey is always on and sending a/v out.

(2) when the receiver is turned off, the unit spends it time searching
for scrambled channels that need to be hit.

=> what you see if you do watch the record output with the receiver off
is the channels that the receiver is finding as it looks around.

thanks to the guys who sent me "don't panic" responses. it was too late
to stop me from totally freaking but now my pulse rate is going back down
below 100.
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Jerry Lewis Telethon Question
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:19:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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In article <BuC3y0.36y@solbourne.com> kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski) writes:
>Obviously, the Jerry Lewis MDA Telethon is distributed via satellite.  Is it
>scrambled or in the clear?  If in the clear, do they cut away to a "local" Las
>Vegas site during the cutaway breaks, or do they just continue on with the
>regular national segment?


In my informal observations this weekend, I found the telethon feeds ITC.
Every telethon feed that I've ever seen was ITC.  Anyway, during the local
breaks, I noticed (at least this weekend) that some of the celebs talk
to each other (Ed McMahon was talking to Sally Jesse Raphael in one
of those breaks) and other times they just put up a graphic "Jerry
Lewis Labor Day Telethon" with the logo of a telethon.  

What is strange about this Labor Day telethon was the lack of "affiliates"
uplinking their telethon feeds.  Usually some video will have the telethon
with phone numbers (i.e. an Indianapolis TV station uplinking a signal
with Indiana telephone numbers).  I usually see about 9-11 of those
"affiliates" during some of the other telethons. 

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:08:05 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: New Channel on Anik E2 /Ku band

>I have found many Canadian feeds to sound distorted on My Uniden 9900,
>as though they were popping the FM audio passband.  This is especially true
>of the CBC transponders on E2.  Does Canada use a different audio standard,
>i.e., more deviation?

Yes MUCH more deviation.  By using an external stereo processor with wider
bandwidth, you can overcome this problem.  I get perfect reception of ALL
Canadian audio with a DRAKE SA-24 processor which I paid $50 for.

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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:48:51 CST
From:         "Juan R. Elizondo" <ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: U2 -> MTV Video Awards link
              8 Sep 1992 20:40:23 GMT from <robe@CBNEWSL.CB.ATT.COM>

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:40:23 GMT robert.g.egan said:
>I have seen some MTV stuff on G6 like that Eric Clapton or Aerosmith show.
>
>> Any possibility that it will be unscramled ?
>>
>Both were ITC.

Excuse me. What do you mean by ITC ?  Another scrambling-descrambling method ?

JR.
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From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: record ouptut on monterey unit  stays on
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has anyone noticed anything strange about the record ouptut on a monterey
receiver?

i have the record output on my new '50' going into a vcr which then feeds
into a tv. i found thatwhen i turn off the receiver, the recorder output
stays active. 

in fact it acts really wierd. for about 30 secs. it still sends out 
video and audio from whatever channnel i'm on when i turned off the set
(eg., G5-05 or F4-16) 

then it changes over to transponder 2 on that satellite (it flipped to
F4-02 when i was on F4 and when i was on G5 it flipped to G5-02  and then
actually picked up TLC on F3-02).

has anyone seen anything like this on their monterey unit. 

generally, is this a problem that needs to be fixed (the unit is only 2
days old) and does having the unit 'stay on' when turned off decrease its
expected lifetime.

thanks for whatever you can tell me (chapparal hasn't returned my call)
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From: kpjone01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: FAQ needed.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:51:02 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Anyone know where I can get ahold of a FAQ for this group??
  
Kevin 

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From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: No PAD this week
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:32:16 EST
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
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In article <9209140450.AA09236@lopez.marquette.MI.US> (rec.video.satellite), "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:
] >In article <9209130142.AA20316@lopez.marquette.MI.US> "(Gary Bourgois)"
] ><flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:
] >>Going to 202 would not be worth it unless the modems could be had for around
] >>$20 in quantity.
] 
] >Many hams people have 202 modem but dont know it. The TNC uses 202 tones.
] >It would be nice if we could use the SKYLINK system. From what I have
] >been told, the skylink box is just a fax chip. a multimode TNC to send
] >the data. Anyone know what subcarrier freq and trasnponder the
] >skylink data is now sent on?
] 
] 
] I think the SKYLINK system would be the ideal way to do it.  Should we pursue
] this?
] 
] --

YES!  Use skylink!  Why reinvent the wheel, when a relatively cheap system
exists!!!

Phil
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:38:00 EDT
From:         TIPPY@DAYTON.BITNET
Subject:      audio level variations

Recently someone asked about the variations in the audio levels from
different programmers.  In the September issue of CED magazine
(cable engineering and design) there is an article :
Labwatch: NTCA/Cablelabs tackles audio level variations.

To summarize the article, there is no standard which the programmers
have to abide by, (unlike the over the air broadcasters which have
audio level guidelines)

the article reported from a test:

Variations of at least 10 db to 20 db among both scrambled and
unscrambled signals.

Their efforts are to try to develop some sort of recommended practices
so cable system operators can adjust their levels accordingly.


Just thought you might be interested, the HomeSat users are not the
only ones bitchin' about the levels, and maybe in the near future
you will see some improvement.

Bill Tippy
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:06:39 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Jerry Lewis Telethon Question

>I've been wondering about this for the last few years or so:

>Obviously, the Jerry Lewis MDA Telethon is distributed via satellite.  Is it
>scrambled or in the clear?  If in the clear, do they cut away to a "local" Las
>Vegas site during the cutaway breaks, or do they just continue on with the
>regular national segment?

It was in the clear all over the sky, and they continue with the NATIONAL
segment during the local cutaways.

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From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
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Subject: setting IRD to do audio below 5mhz?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:57:15 EST
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
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How do you modify a GI2750r to do audio below 5mhz?

Any way possible?

Phil Hunt
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 10:13:35 -0500
From:         Russ Crisp <CRISP@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: G3/11 Audio Services

They've all moved over to G5/21. Same subcarrier settings.  It's time
to reprogram your ird!
rc
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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: No PAD this week
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:30:00 GMT

"(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:
>>I typed:
>>You might look at Bell 202j format as used by the
>>Caller*ID system and amateur packet radio modems.
>
>How widely available is this.  I asked our listenership if anyone had 202 and
>not a single listener called.

Come on, Gary. That's because "nobody listens to LTRN".

You should know better. :)

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
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Subject: Uniden impressions in general
From: west@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:05:51 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: west


Several people have been asking about the reliability / features of
Uniden IRDs.  I have a 4400s, the 4800s' little brother, which I have
run 24 hours a day since I purchased it.  The IRD has been rock solid,
running cooler than my previous setup (Channel Master) and objecting
less to power-line sags and bobs than I expected from past experience.

I had a couple of problems (related to my goofiness rather than 
hardware problems) and called Uniden technical support a couple of
times; help was cordial, expert, and thorough even when it became
evident that all the problems were my fault.  

The Drake equipment appears to be solidly built, but I think much of that
impression comes from the solid chassis and excellent fit and finish of
their equipment.  The Uniden gear has a cheap look (not as bad as Houston,
IMHO, but cheap) but seems to me well engineered.

Hope these impressions are some help...

Mark West
Dept. Mass Comm., UNC-Asheville  


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