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From: jhc@fang.att.com (John H. Carter)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Need scan rates for AMDEK 732 for X11R5 on Interactive
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:29:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL

Date: 14 Oct 92 16:12:34 GMT
Message-Id: <Bw4D10.MMq@fang.att.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware


We are building X11R5 on a 386 running Interactive 2.2.1.  The system has
an Amdek 732 monitor and a Paradise VGA Professional video card.  We need
to correctly populate the scan rate parameters in the xconfig file and
don't have a manual for the monitor.

If anyone has those parameters, please email them.  If anyone know how to
get in touch with Amdek, please let me know.  The 800 number we have is no
longer theirs.

Thanks,

John

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From: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl (Milquetoast)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Killing all clients on exit, on an X-terminal
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:17:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: WG/Estec, Noordwijk, The Netherlands

Date: 8 Oct 92 15:28:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.152831.10387@wg.estec.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

We're using xdm on a DEC VXT2000 X-terminal (running VXT1.1, booted from
SunOS). The terminal will quite happily run the .Xsession file. However, when
the last client is exited, all the other clients stay active. Previously, when
I've used a workstation, if the last client was exited, all the other clients
died as well.

So, is it possible to get all the clients to die at once, and if so how?

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards,


Chris
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From: palmerp@math.orst.edu (Paul A Palmer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X-based Typing Tutor
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:39:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. of Math, Oregon State University

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:24:01 GMT
Message-Id: <PALMERP.92Oct7182401@phoebus.math.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct1.154643.27412@dazixco.ingr.com> naftaly@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer) writes:

   In article <3579@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu>, abmg@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Aliasghar Babadi) writes:
   >Hi,
   >	Is there a ftpable X based typing tutor available ? Thanks
   >in advance for your replies.

   Please post the answers (if any). 

These are not X based, but are the only unix typing tutors I've seen (I
queried the net for such beasts some time ago):

    "letters" was posted to alt.sources a few months ago, so should be in the
    archives for that group.
    
    There is another tutorial program called "typist".  Get the file
    "typist.tar.Z" on cs.rochester.edu in /pub.


If there's an X based program, yes, please post.

Paul Palmer
Department of Mathematics     	E-mail: palmerp@math.orst.edu
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Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331-4605
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From: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jay Schmidgall)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Quarkifying strings: is it really a good idea?
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:11:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 13:15:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct08.131543.7956@rchland.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In my application, I'm doing a lot of string comparisons, often comparing
some variable against a constant string, but sometimes variable against
variable, e.g.,

match(s, t)
char *s, *t;
{
   if (!strcmp(s, "THIS_CONSTANT_STRING"))   /* variable to constant */
      if (!strcmp(s, t))		     /* variable to variable */
         printf("match\n");
}

I've been thinking about converting this over to using XrmQuarks instead,
e.g.,

match (s, t)
char *s, *t;
{
   XrmQuark s_quark;
   static XrmQuark t_c_s_quark = XrmStringToQuark("THIS_CONSTANT_STRING");

   if (t_c_s_quark == (s_quark = XrmStringToQuark(s)))
      if (s_quark == XrmStringToQuark(t))
         printf("match\n");
}

Since quarks are currently represented by integers, I expect some obvious
performance increase in the comparisons.  However, since I need to quarkify
the strings to do the quark compares, what real benefit does this buy me?

That is, since quarkifying the string is going to require walking the
string, same as the string compare does, plus the overhead of hashing and
such, do I really gain anything?

Also, how is storage for the quarks handled?  Is there some upper bound on
the number of quarks?  Do I need to worry that if I quarkify too many
strings, the memory my app consumes could quickly grow beyond what is
reasonable?

E-mail me, and I'll summarize.  Thanks!
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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: such a thing as a PD DOS X server?
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:11:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

Date: 7 Oct 92 23:01:42 GMT
Message-Id: <17748@autodesk.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.ms-windows.apps


[A slight repost of my question from a week or so back...]

	Any freely available DOS X servers out there?  I don't
need anything fancy.  I just want to remote display x11ups.  Would
the software you get with PC-NFS 4.0 be enough to get the connection
going PC <-> SPARC?

				Daniel
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From: drmres27@c54.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: screen blankers/lockers
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:36:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:24:36 GMT
Message-Id: <DRMRES27.92Oct6152437@c54.usl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for a program which can call screen blankers when the
user is idle.  I saw a post a while back about it, but I am unable to
find any references to it.  The program that I am talking about came
with some sample screen blankers.

Please send response by email, I will post a summary if there is
enough interest.

Pablo Mejia
drmres27@ucs.usl.edu
From: chrisp@cephb.cephb.fr (Chris Person)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: List server
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:09:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:36:47 +0100
Message-Id: <9210131436.AA09487@cephb.cephb.fr>

Can you please add me to the list server xpert so I can submit a few problem hat I encountered try to use X11 on a Sun...



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From: yho@otto.carleton.ca (Y. Ho(S.Kennedy))
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Any source file browser for X window?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:26:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Carleton University

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:42:37 GMT
Message-Id: <yho.718645357@cunews>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Is there any source file browser shareware for X window like
"sbrowser" in Sun? 

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From: michael@maine.maine.edu (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: set colors wo override user config colors?
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:04:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Maine System

Date: 6 Oct 92 21:29:53 GMT
Message-Id: <MICHAEL.921006172953@maine.maine.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

In article <2297@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> chrisw@chopin.FtCollins.NCR.com
(Chris Whitley) writes:
>I would like to set the colors of my application programmatically
>only if the user has not specified colors (on command line or
>in Xdefaults). I believe this should be easy, but am not sure how?

Someone else may have a better way, but you basically need a "flag" value
that you can check for after the user's defaults have been retrieved, and
substitute for if it is still present. Unfortunately, pixels have the
problem that they are unsigned and there are no possible values that you
can count on never to be allocated to a valid pixel.

What you can do is define your resource type as XtRString and use a value of
NULL as a sentinal. Then your program can perform the conversion to XtRPixel
explicitly by using XtConvertAndStore after accepting the user's value or
filling in one of your own.

Michael Johnson, VM Systems Group                     michael@maine.maine.edu
"I will choose the path that's clear. I will choose Free Will." -- Neil Peart
From: emmerik@utrcu1.civ.utwente.nl (Emmerik P.J.L. van)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to crash the X server under Openwindows 3?
Date: 11 Oct 92 07:53:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Twente

Date: 10 Oct 92 22:44:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct10.224409.29711@utwente.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am able to crash the X server under openwindows 3 on a
SUN Sparc station 1, On an IPC under Openwindows 2 all works fine.
The program i am using is BIG and so is the data file i am using, so
here's my question:
Does anyone have a hint how to crash the X server or where to start
looking?
Does anyone have experince whith a core dumping X server?

Pleace Email to emmerik@utwente.nl
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From: netdraw@cs.curtin.edu.au (P. Musca - B. Allen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: pixmaps <> extracting data
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:00:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

Date: 12 Oct 92 04:33:27 GMT
Message-Id: <netdraw.718864407@marsh>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need to extract the pixel values from a pixmap. 
ie. ignore all the crap at the top of the pixmap and just take out the hex numbers
so I can write them out to a file ....... the file is a postscript dump of a bitmap image.

Please help I am very frustrated....

				Peter Musca 

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From: tonyf@postmaster@ims.com (Antonio Freixas)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Help!!! Missing stdout??????
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:22:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.

Date: 13 Oct 92 14:37:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.143713.8612@ims.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <78Y.02kv25t701@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, mam70@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Musta) writes:
|> I've written an application for X that uses 'printf' to show error messages.
|> Everything works fine if I run my application from a 'cmdshell' or 'xterm'
|> window but when I start my application from my 'openwin-init' file or from
|> my window manager's menu bar I lose STDOUT.  My printf statements do not show
|> up anywhere.  I've tried using 'fprintf' to stderr and still no output????
|> This has me stumped!   How does one handle a situation like this?  I need to
|> report error messages to the user.

The correct way to handle this is to write error messages to a dialog.
In Motif, one would use an Error dialog.

As for where stdout went -- there's nothing magical about it. You will
need to trace through the openwin script and any associated programs
it runs (.xinitrc, .openwin-init, etc.), to make sure no one is
redirecting the output to the bit bucket.  Chances are it is being
written to the console, but I assume you have a console window and
that you checked it out.

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From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:52:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:57:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct12.135747.25839@decuac.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:

>What they don't know is that, if they thought learning DOS was tricky, just
>wait until NT hits the fan. The salesman/papers/magazines haven't quite
>explained this side of the story to them.

	Are you speaking from experience here? Or wishful thinking?

	When I saw/used NT, I found it much easier to grasp even the systems
management stuff than UNIX. It took me years and years to learn to really
make UNIX machines stand up and dance, but I think that anyone with a few
clues could set up an NT clump.

	Sure, NT is more complex than DOS - but as far as UNIX is concerned,
I'm reminded of the story of the two hunters who were being chased by a
bear...  One pants, "It's no use, we can't outrun it" and the other replies,
"I don't have to outrun the bear. I only have to outrun *you*"

mjr.
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"good" were necessary or even important, DOS would not be the de facto
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From: thoth@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Robert Forsman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X regions: here's how to
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:30:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Church of Homogeneous Foods (Rev. Forsman founder)

Date: 8 Oct 92 16:14:14 GMT
Message-Id: <THOTH.92Oct8121414@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


  Well, in response to one request, here's sample code to accumulate X
events.  It is a derivative of the stuff I wrote for XConq5.5 and
there may be some subtleties I missed (mouse?) but it works fine in my
experience.

    Region	reg;
    XRectangle	rect;
    reg = XCreateRegion();

    do {
	rect.x = evt->xexpose.x;
	rect.y = evt->xexpose.y;
	rect.width = evt->xexpose.width;
	rect.height = evt->xexpose.height;
	XUnionRectWithRegion(&rect, reg, reg);
    } while (XCheckWindowEvent(dpy, evt->xexpose.window,
			      ExposureMask, evt));

    XSetRegion(dpy, pen, reg);
    XDestroyRegion(reg);

    /* now draw your goo */
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From: frank@croton.nyo.dec.com (Frank Wortner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Starting X11R5 on mips Ultrix 4.2
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:07:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Date: 8 Oct 92 17:12:56 GMT
Message-Id: <4478@datum.nyo.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.windows.x


Xtm2d supports the PX video card on a DECstation 5000.  Unless something has
changed recently, X11R5's Xdec server did not support that card.  The net
result is, that although the X11R5 clients are useable, the Xdec server
cannot replace the Xtm2d server.  You'll have to continue to use the latter.

					Frank
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Help on XSetWindowColormap
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:13:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

Date: 10 Oct 92 19:28:21 GMT
Message-Id: <7320051@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In comp.windows.x, mek@hydrox.enet.dec.com (Mark Klamerus) writes:

>         I'm writing an image display application.  This will be in Motif,
>         but the problem I'm running into is X (I think).  The gist of things
>         is problems with the colormaps.

The example is setting a different colormap for the drawing area widget than
for the other windows.  If you are using more than one colormap under a top
level window, you need to list the windows with unique colormaps in an
array of window id's in the WM_COLORMAP_WINDOWS property on the top level
window.  Consider that most X servers can only install one colormap at a time.
You can reorder the window list in the property to change the priority of
the colormaps.  This is effective if done in response to enter and leave
events for the windows with non-default colormaps.  Be certain to include
the top level window in the property list, or it will be implicitly placed
at the front of the list with the highest priority.

If you can get by with one colormap for all windows, then just change
the top level window to use your private colormap.  You will need to take
care to get all of the widgets drawn with good colors from the private
colormap instead of using indices appropriate to the default colormap.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:58:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center

Date: 7 Oct 92 18:37:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.183744.4489@decuac.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

>This is that it appears that
>it will be difficult to run an X-server in "native mode" under WNT.

	Is this a bug or a feature?

	No, seriously - If you consider that X windows' installed
base is a drop in the bucket compared to ms-windows', Microsoft
would be crazy to put engineering effort into making X a priority.

>For a group like ours, which is actually looking favorably at WNT,
>these details are very disappointing. It appears that the X community
>will be ignored when Windows NT for Alpha comes out

	I think that a lot of the NT fans and potential NT fans out
there are expecting that the X community is going to dry up and blow
away. They may be right. Microsoft *did* sell a million copies of
windows last month, after all. X? (actually, in terms of installed
base, the X community dried up and blew away years ago)

	I don't know why you specify "Windows NT for Alpha", by the
way. NT is NT. The architecture it's running on will make some
difference, but presumably it'll behave the same and have the same
API across hardware. So if one NT has short-shrifted X, then they all
do.

mjr.
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Having one's software be "good" or even "excellent" is over-rated. If
"good" were necessary or even important, DOS would not be the de facto
standard operating system.                          -notebooks of a heretic
From: eddie@laslett.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Xintian Eddie Lin)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: adding font path on a X terminal
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:15:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Date: 8 Oct 92 01:25:14 GMT
Message-Id: <EDDIE.92Oct7172514@laslett.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


It's using tftp to access the remote font file, it might be the
problem of the tftp access privilege i.e. it can't read my fonts.dir
file.

	Eddie Lin
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From: ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Blabst from the Pabst...)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:15:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:23:00 GMT
Message-Id: <9OCT199211230586@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

In article <BvtKvK.3I2@mtholyoke.edu>, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes...
>Who is MS targeting?  According to their
>hype, the "power users".  

Their definition of power users is probably their installed base. I mean, who
wants to be called a 'weak' user? Not very good marketing, eh? What I see out
there in the PC world is people constantly upgrading to the next big thing,
so they can run the next big thing 
(memory + cpu requirements = 5*(M+cpu of n-1 big thing) from MS. Doesn't 
sound like much a problem to me, these folks seem to be pretty well under
control...

Tom O'Toole - ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer 
Homewood Computing Facilities, Johns Hopkins University, Balto. Md. 21218 
>Here comes a jet ski.
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From: villagra@dit.upm.es (Victor A. Villagra)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to set a watch cursor in ALL the shells??
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:48:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. Ingenieria de Sistemas Telematicos, UPM, Madrid, Spain.

Date: 14 Oct 92 11:10:33 GMT
Message-Id: <VILLAGRA.92Oct14121033@chinchon.dit.upm.es>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi, we have an application which may have a lot of shells under the
top-level shell and what we want to do, is to set a watch cursor in ALL the
application windows, not only in the top-level, ignoring device events in
all the application windows.

I have tried the code in the FAQ (#126), but it seems to work only in the
top-level shell. 

Is there a method to do this, other than keeping in an up-to-date array of
all the shells used in the application and apply the method to each one ??

//Victor.

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