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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:15:06 EST
From:         "Pat McCormick" <pmccormi@SMTPLINK.UIS.ITD.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LOTUS NOTES
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

>Lotus Notes on a Banyan VINES network currently depends on an OS/2 machine
>for it's database management and PC-based StreetTalk service. I don't like
>the idea of having all that vital information stored somewhere beyond my
>firm control, and that's what it will be like. Are there any plans to
>change Notes, so that the database and service will both be on a Banyan
>VINES server?

>Bent.Tranberg@Data.AID.NO
>Agder College of Engineering, Grimstad, Norway.
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I have heard that Lotus will port the notes engine to a unix os.  Although this
is not under the vines engine, one would think if there was a lot of need for a
VINES version it would not be too difficult from unix.  Also it may be possible
in the near future to store the Notes databases on a drive accessible to the OS2
Notes server i.e. a VINES file service.
I'm not sure what you mean about the information being stored beyond your firm
control, Notes has extensive security for the database access, as for the OS2
box itself, a secure room does nicely!

Pat.McCormick@um.cc.umich.edu
University of Michigan.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:29:37 EDT
From:         John=Valenti%cs%SSC@BANYAN.CL.MSU.EDU
Subject:      re: Help with Vines 5.0 ARL's?

Ian Brabham and Tom Greenaway,

> Try
>                           CSRWD  CERW
> Somebodyimportant@cs@ssc  +++++  ++++   This entries a bit of a crock
> maintlist@cs@ssc          +++++  ++++   This can be a list or *@grp@org
> *@*@*                     -----  ----   Brain dead waste of time for Z: hack
>   (extended mask)         +++++  ++++   havn't found a use for this yet
> *@*@ssc                   -++--  -++-   SETARL stuffs up trying to use F4
>   (no further entries)                  "test" but it seems to works okay.

This seems to work.

>> I also tried using the extended list entries, and created a list
 all@dean@ssc>> that just had one entry "*@*@ssc". That also failed while trying
 to add
>> *@*@ssc to the list, though the manual claims it's legal under 5.0?
>
> Only lists in groups held on a rev 5.00 server can have wildcard entries.

Maybe I've found another "known anomaly", since the group dean@ssc IS on a
5.0(5) server and mlist gives a STK1001 error whenever I try to add *@dean@ssc
to the list?

>               In the "Extended List"  you can enter a full Streettalk
>               Name or a StreetTalk List.  You CANNOT use a WildCard
>               in the Extended list as the *@*@* world will always over
>               ride it.

Reality doesn't match up to my manuals... I've got a wildcard (*@*@SSC) in
the extended list, as Ian suggests. A user (521A@CJ@SSC) can link to the
drive and view files, even though owner is set for maint@cs@ssc, and group
is set for *@cs@ssc. *@*@* is set for no access.

>                          Not only will it override the Extended list
>               wildcard, but if you try to test a user while you have
>               a wildcard in the extended list you will HANG your
>               PC!  This is because of the *@whatever in the Extended
>               list.  We like to call it a KNOWN ANOMALY!
>               (bug is such a dirty word!)
>
>           WORK AROUND!     RTFM

OK, I was sitting with the "FM's" next to me last night while trying to do
this.
>               What you need to do is creat a streettalk list
>                 for Example  List@group@Organization
>
>                       The only entry on this list is
>                       *@*@crs
>                       Yes 5.00 allows you to put a wildcard on
>                       a list!!!!
>
>                             Tom Greenaway@toronto@banyan

Gives a STK1001 error when I try it.
Almost seems to me that my ever increasing support dollars should be converted
to Australian$ and sent down under!

-jav     John Valenti    valenti@msu.edu    Michigan State University
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:03:26 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Hardware Platform Questions
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David L. Blair,

>Why three hard drives?  Why not get two drives of the same size, just
>bigger??  Or are you trying to do some sort of drive array??

There is a lot of performance to be gained by having a separate small
/disk1 drive with NO user services present.  It also removes the risk
of filling your /disk1 if there are no user service running to it.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:30:03 BST
From:         tp@JET.UK
Subject:      Banyan vines and WD8003E CRYNWR Packet driver.

Organization: Joint European Torus
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1992 16:36:04 GMT

   I am trying to LOGON to a host using KERMIT V3.11 . On our site we have
   a BANYAN VINES network and supplied with it is a PACKET DRIVER. Now,
   this PACKET DRIVER works as I can TELNET to my required HOST and LOGON.
   However, as I wish to use TEKTRONIX emulation capability for graphical
   output, and I have KERMIT version 3.11 which is TCP/IP aware - then all
   should have been straight forward.
   Well, guess what ? it isn't or more to the point I cant seem to get KERMIT
   recognise that my PACKET DRIVER is loaded. I also have what were
   the CLARKSON packet drivers and the following happens, when I type

   c:\WD8003E
   c:\Packet driver for Western Digital WD8003E EBT EB ET/A
             and ET/A, version 9.7.0
      usage : WD8003E [-n] [-d] [-w] packet_int_no [-o]
      [int_level [io_addr mem_base]]]

   I install this packet driver as

   WD8003E -d 0x60 5 0x280 0xc800

   which informs me

   Packet driver is at segment 33b3

   then I invoke KERMIT V3.11 with TCP/IP prameters in my INI file as:

   set TCP/IP ADDRESS             address
   set TCP/IP SUBNETMASK          mask address
   set TCP/IP DOMAIN              name
   set TCP/IP BROADCAST           address
   set TCP/IP PRIMARY-NAMESERVER  191.191.16.1
   set TCP/IP HOST                name

   on requesting 'connect' I am informed

   MS-KERMIT>connect
    Resolving address of host 'name' ..
     trying 'name'
     Cannot reach name server 191.191.16.1
    Cannot resolve address of host 'name'
   MS-KERMIT>

    I should point out that I only invoked the WD8003E  packet driver
    having tried the above setting for KERMIT with the BANYAN VINES packet
    driver and getting the message

    Cannot attach to an Ethernet Packet Driver
     Unable to initialize TCP/IP system, quitting
    Cannot start the connection
    MS-KERMIT>

  So where am I going wrong ?

    Are there any incompatiblities with Banyan Vines, WD8003E and KERMIT TCP/IP
    calls.

    Your assistance is kindly requested.
                        Tarang



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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:49:00 PDT
From:         Robertson@SSC.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Re: KEEPING TIME.
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Of course, this time check is built in to VINES 5.0, which I assume most of
you aren't running.  The other feature that's useful in 5.0 is the trusted
time server functionality.  Having the right time and then making sure that
it becomes real network time are after all two different things.  Craig, how
does your service handle the trusted time server part?

- Bruce Robertson, Senior Editor, LA Labs
    Network Computing Magazine
    Internet: robertson@ssc.sscnet.ucla.edu

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Craig,

Would you be willing to share your NTP service with the rest of us?  We could
use this immediately since we already synchronize our Unix hosts to the NIST
time standard.  I tried to track down a way to synch the Banyan servers about
a year ago, but could never figure how to set the Banyan clock using the
Toolkit.  Way to go!!!  Just for curiosity sake, I'd like to see the source
code also.  If you are willing to share, please zip all the files and upload
them to csus.edu.  We'll be forever in your debt.

John Carver
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
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Subject: Re: BANYAN to RS/6000
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:54:47 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Regarding the question about connecting BANYAN Lans to RS/6000s,
all such questions could be directed to Wang field offices since
Wang is both Banyan's largest reseller and a major IBM RS/6000
value added (document imaging) reseller (with an investment by IBM).

In this particular case, Wang distributor managing director
Salem El Badawi could be contacted directly in Cairo at
Egyptian Advanced Technologies, 3 Osman Ibn Affan St. Mohandesseen,
Giza.  His telephone is 2 3443001. - Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:10:00 GMT
From:         Jim Loya <0004602295@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: NIC'S
X-To:         Banyan Networks Discussion List <BANYAN-L@vm1.cc.uakron.edu>

ISI pricing on 32-bit EISA NICs from selected vendors:

Eagle/Anthem (Novell) NE3200 - $680 qty 1, $665 qty 5+
Accton (lifetime warranty, 10-B2, AUI, 10-BT) - $470 qty 1, $455 qty 5+
Intel 8215 10-B2 - $605 qty 1, $590 qty 5+
Exos 235T - $605 qty 1, $585 qty 5+
SMC 3200/Bus Master - $690/$635

ISI can be reached at 1-800-827-5478 0830-1700 EST.

<Warning - blatant sales pitch ahead>

ISI carries 3COM, Acton, Allied Telesis, Asante, Brightwork, Codenoll, Compex,
Dayna, D-Link, Eagle/Anthem, Microdyne, Microtest, Olicom, Shiva, Tiara, SMC,
Thomas-Conrad, Wollongong, Acer/Altoss, Rabbit, Triton, Vitalink and Newport
products.

Call or fax RFQ to 603-357-8935.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:31:48 EDT
From:         LuAnne Meyer <luanne@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Thanks Ian and David for your comments concerning the hardware
platform.  I've spoken to Banyan about the platform as well and
am posting their comments FYI.

My big concern was the DPT EISA SCSI host adapter.  Banyan
strongly recommended that we go with the Adaptec 1740 SCSI
controller.  Apparently they had tested the DPT on with the
Everex Step 486/33 EISA Megacube and had problems.  They said
that although the DPT was excellent performance-wise, it tended
to be temperamental and if we used it our platform would no
longer be certified and they would not support it if major
problems arose.  So, we decided to stick with the Adaptec.

Ian, Thanks for the advice on the disk drives.  I've asked Banyan
to check into using the Quantum ProDrive 120 series for our small
drive.  I haven't heard back.

David, Thanks for your responses as well.  You suggested using
the NE3200 NIC.  I asked Banyan about this and they said it was a
fine NIC but and should work but it would make the platform
uncertified.  So, we're sticking with the ES3210.  About using
certified platforms: we feel we need to be cautious and ensure we
get a platform that works as we have given bad advice to this
customer in the past and can't afford another mistake.  We also
want to make sure we have Banyan's full support in case we have
problems implementing anything.  The reason for the Everex
instead of another platform (Compaq) is that the customer is
using another contract to get the hardware.  The Everex is on
that contract and they can get a good deal.  We are just
providing services for now.
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From: dave@pluto.dss.com (Dave Monachello)
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Subject: Printing from Banyan Vines to a Novell printer?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:44:18 GMT
Organization: Datability, Carlstadt, NJ


How can users in a Banyan VINES environment print to a printer on a Novell LAN?
I have heard of a gateway product from Trellis - but this only provides file transfer.  I have also heard of a product called "Spry Concurrent" using NDIS - to run multiple protocol stacks from the same workstation...Spry says that their product allows Banyan users to use Novell print commands to Novell printers...

Is anyone using these products?  If so, are they working???  Are their other ways to print from Banyan to Novell?  (ie. user TCP/IP and LPR to a TCP/IP speaking Novell server????)

Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:20:50 DST
From:         WK=Chu%NWB%CCA@INET-GW.DIENST.VU.NL
Subject:      re: KEEPING TIME.
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

You can go to your VAR and report this problem. Our VAR had replaced the
motherboard that running too fast.


**************************************************
Wan Kong Chu, Network Administrator
Vrije Universiteit, The Netherlands
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From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Windows,
              logout/login and concurrent login number (2 or more digits)
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

As far as I have experienced, windows will NOT permit you to logout
until windows is closed from memory.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:24:36 EDT
From:         Lou=Janelle%Faculty%WAYNE@AUBURN.UAKRON.EDU
Subject:      NIC'S

Does anyone know of a good source that supplies the Racal Interlan ES-3210
32-bit network interface card?

Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:16:01 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: KEEPING TIME.
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Dear List Members,

I have a small favour to ask.  First some background :-

The new rev 5 TIME list stuff still doesn't solve the problem with
servers that have clocks that run fast.  You can't stop those servers
from dragging the rest of the network into the future even by creating
the lists TIME@servername@Servers.  I have tried and it doesn't work.

You can stop the network time being wrongly set by excluding the
Server Service (SS@servername@Servers) of Servers that have
untrustworthy administrators from the TIME list, but it doesn't
prevent time creep.

There are 2 mechanism in Vines for adjusting the time.  One is time
sync broadcasts and these cause a servers to advance it's time to
catch up to another server with latter time.  They are designed to
keep the network time consistant.  These broadcasts can never cause
time to be retarded only advanced.  The other mechanism is time
setting commands and these are issued whenever an operator sets the
time from the console.  These are controlled with the TIME lists and
they can set the time forwards or BACKWARDS!

One new rev 5 feature is to allow a 1200 baud dial out to a time service
bureau to set the time accurately.  I don't have access to one so I can't
try it out.  I suspect these dial outs will cause time setting commands.

If you look at your SS@servername@Servers log you may see 1 of 3
possible entries :-

1. 18:19:45 [512] Time sync - adjusted forward 1 seconds by CCSERVER3
    (serial # 2106866)

This is a time sync message and is responsible for time creep if you
have a server with a fast clock.  I have a server called CCSERVER3 that
does this (*&%#@$%**!!! useless hardware).

2. 18:35:00 [512] Net time set to 711966900 by me. Called by CAJEServer1
    (serial # 2009231)

This is the time set message when an operator sets the time on the
current server.

3. 18:37:00 [512] Time set: server = SS@CCServer4@Servers, time = 711967020

This is the time set message when an operator sets the time from
another server.


Now the favour .....

Is anyone using the dial out to a time bureau feature?  I would be most
grateful if you could examine all your SS logs and let me know what a time
dial out does to the network.

Thanks in anticipation.

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia

PS Does anybody have a copy of the specs for the time bureau message format.
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:48:31 MDT
From:         devildog@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
Subject:      NETBIOS
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

I could use some help connecting a CD-ROM reader to my Network.  The way I
understand it:
	1.  Connect the CD-ROM to a PC that has connectivity.
	2.  Create a PC-Based service (this one is a little fuzzy)
	3.  Set the PCCONFIG (or use PCNETB) on the PC with the CD-ROM
	4.  Modify the Profile (or use SETNETB) on the other connected PC's

How does Banyan know what is being configured as a NETBIOS service?  When I
execute the above steps, the PC that I run SETNETB on returns an error like

	'NETBIOS not running' I forget the exact verbage

If I run the PCNETB again, I get 'Already running'.  I am obviously doing
something wrong or in the wrong order, but can't seem to get it right.

Do not be afraid to point out the obvious, as I am self taught and could very
likely overlook the obvious.

Thanx
Roland
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:04:10 -0700
From:         Alan Smith <alans@CORAL.USACE.MIL>
Subject:      FTP Software's PCTCP 2.1
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Well - just off the press is the following from FTP Software.
=============================================================
FTP Software is now shipping version 2.10 of PC/TCP for DOS and
Windows. The Dev Kit for 2.1 is not yet shipping, however
applications developed with the 2.05 Dev Kit will, with minor
exceptions, work just fine over 2.1 kernels. The exceptions have to
do with apps that ask the kernel about its configuration. Most apps
do not do this. For those that do, we provide workarounds which will
allow them to work until they are updated. Please send mail to
info@ftp.com for information on upgrade terms if you wish to do so.

--
William J Rust (aka, not-the-mama)                       Internet: wjr@ftp.com
FTP Software, Inc.                         (617) 246-0900, fax: (617) 246-0901

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I wonder when we of Banyan-land will see upgrades to ebanyan and ibanyan??

alans

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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:51:40 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: EBANYAN ERROR MESSAGE
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Kelly, I don't suppose you could ship that driver for our site to
use?  We have MANY of the Intel EtherExpress boards installed
and the native driver is EXACTLY what we need.  We talked to
a representative from Intel last night and he said there was a
chance we could use the driver they have in test.  Obviously,
you've persuaded someone more than us!  If you could, please
upload it to ANY site and let me know!  We have a deadline for
getting Ebanyan up and running or we CHANGE boards!  (I'd
really hate to have to do that).

Thanks for the info and please let me know what you can do.  We're
patiently waiting for Intel's shipment, but I don't forsee that
happening immediately.  FTP is right here, right now.

-Andrew Strasheim
strashea@zeno.mscd.edu
Metropolitan State College of Denver
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:53:29 EDT
From:         LuAnne Meyer <luanne@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Hardware Platform Questions
X-To:         banyan-l@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

To anyone,

We are putting together a hardware configuration for a client.  Details are:

Software: VINES 5.0

Server Hardware:

Everex Step 486/33 EISA Megacube
NIC:          Racal-Datacom ES3210
Motherboard:  Everex EV18113, AMI bios, Rev. G2-43
Disk Drives:  Two 665 MB Seagate ST-4767-N
              One 130 MB (To be determined)
Controller:   DPT EISA SCSI host adapter
Video:        Everex EV-231, mono
Tape:         Exabyte 8200 2.2GB


All these components are part of a Banyan Certified platform except for the
Controller and the tape drive.  We want to use the Bus mastering feature of
this controller vs. the slower ISA Adaptec controller Banyan certified with
this platform.

We want an internal 2.2GB tape drive vs. the 150MB drive do complete system
backups on one tape.

Questions:

1.  We talked to a Banyan engineer and he said the DPT controller should work
fine.  However, we talked to another co-worker who tried to get this
controller to work on an AST EISA platform and said he had problems.
It would only recognize two SCSI devices.  Has anyone else had experience
with this controller and/or this platform that can offer advice?

2.  Banyan also said the tape drive should work ok.  Anyone with experience
otherwise?

3.  Any suggestions on the 130MB disk drive?

We are going to try and get all these components together to test them before
they purchase the servers but we may not have time (end of year rush to
spend $$)!

Thanks in advance,

LuAnne Sloan
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