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From: xxaj547@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Carmen Rusu)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Bactrin for ear infection anyone?
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:19:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC

Hi netters !

My 2yo daughter was prescribed bactrin for ear infection. When she had it
last time she was given Ceclor, but after we finished it a  fine rash appeared
on her torso, so the dr changed prescription this time.

Anybody with good/bad experiences of this sulfa drug ?

Thanks a lot

Carmen
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From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 3.5 year old tantrums
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:37:13 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

jgt10@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson) writes:
|> Previously we had used an 
|> escalation of timeouts on a stair, in a laundry room (his 
|> bedroom was too much fun)

A timeout is allowed to be fun.  It's just allowed to be out of
control.  (i.e. If you can't handle this situation, remove yourself
to some situation that you can handle)

|> About the only thing we have found that can stop this nonlinear
|> behavior is a threat of removing a privilege (watching a video,
|> going outside to play, playing 'pirates' or 'ambulance').

I recently read a book titled "Family Rules", which has the idea that
logical consequences are the most appropriate way to stop undesired
behavior.  If a behavior is undesired, make a rule that prohibits it;
all rules are if/then rules, so the rule might be "if you hit Alex
then you must play alone for such an amount of time" or, if you think
it'd be more effective "The rule is 'no hitting'.  If you hit, you
can't play group games for the rest of the day."  

I found this book to be very interesting, and have every intention of
applying many of its principles.  Since you have found something that
works, I think you should apply it regularly and consistently.  Erik
should know that _every_ time he "goes after" his brother, he will
lose a desired privilege--no warnings, no timeouts, no nonsense.

BTW, the book suggests that all rules be written down.  Even little
ones who don't read have a greater respect for the written word.

Good luck! 


--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu

Disclaimer: Jordan is spending a lot of time lately looking at his
fingers.  He's only kindof discovered his toes.  
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ashley@osc.edu (Ashley Burns)
Subject: Re: Giving birth under water
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:24:06 GMT

There's a section in _birth_ by Caterine Milinaire on birth under water.
It's ISBN 0-517-54347-8 (New York, Harmony Books, 1987).

--Ashley, ashley@osc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Subject: Re: Brazelton on toys (long)
Keywords: toy guns, fads, Madonna posters, computer games
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 23:56:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.163731.11828@crd.ge.com> dudding@sallyride.crd.ge.com (Kate Dudding) writes:
>Here are excerpts from Nov. 91 Family Circle by T. Berry Brazelton
>on toys.  I'm sharing them because he raises points that I had never
>thought of before, and I thought other might be interested in considering
>what he says.

>On to Brazelton:

>Four- and five-year-olds play war games to test out ways of expressing
>their newly emerging feelings of aggression.  They _need_ to find safe
>ways to talk about these feelings and play out these impulses.
>Meanwhile, parents who have strong feelings against aggressive
>behavior try to dissuade their children from playing with toys
>weapons.  What they don't realize is that this is a normal,
>predictable 4-year-old phase.  Even in isolated, peace-loving tribes,
>like the Mayans in Mexico, I saw boys of this age in loud, aggressive
>play.  They, too, made guns with their hands and "shot" at each other.

Interesting cultural side note. Where I grew up children were NOT allowed
to point toy guns at each other unless they were playing war and INTENDED 
to hit a target. (The Indians were the good guys on the reservation.)

Children were encouraged to play 'hunting party' and 'target practice.'
'Hunting party' required a lot of cooperation since whoever was playing
the deer would run and hide.

-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:50:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.131335.908@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>
>  What do you do when you want a raise, go point a gun at your boss???
>  We WERE talking about physical violence, pushing, hitting, and physical
>  fights.
>
>  You can't even read.
>
>  All right with you?  [Such nitpicking...]
>
>  This is a joke, guess you didn't get it.  Oops I forgot the huge smiley.
>
>  Fabulous.

Ladies and gentlemen .... Clare Chu!  (clap clap clap ....)

-Nance


-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: FYI - Diaper Rash Info
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:22:40 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

In article <1793@pacvax.UUCP> bl@pacersoft.com (Bill) writes:
>I am not totally turned off to Hydrocordisone because of this due to the fact
>that it was the only medicine which worked on a previous rash which was very
>bad.  BUT, I will probably start off using Desatin and if that doesn't work,
>then I'll try Hydrocordisone.
>
I wouldn't use Hydrocortisone for a garden variety rash.  I have heard that
regular use can lead to the skin becoming thinner.  Desitin (or
one of the many other over-the-counter) is IMHO a better choice for
everyday rashes.  If the rash doesn't respond, then try something stronger.
Hydrocortisone + vaseline (or hydrocortisone ointment rather than cream)
will work for bad "garden variety" rashes.  For fungal rashes, you will
need an antifungal cream (Nystatin or GyneLotrimin or other "feminine" anti-
fungal).  I usually use the antifungal with cortisone ointment twice a day
for those that don't respond to Desitin.  Lots of air drying, cloth diapers
with no plastic pants, also helps.

-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: khare@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Kathy Hare - DCS)
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:45:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.021746.3720@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:
> In article <day_kevran-061092165526@130.252.108.211> day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
> >I forgot one the other day - my husband has a very good friend 
> >named Dick Gentle!  Seriously, would you do that to a kid?
> 
> My first job ouut of college, I worked for Dick Boring! I had to stifle a 
> giggle or two during my on-campus interview.
> 
> Laura Floom
> 
> 

This reminds me of a few names I have come across over the years.
 
First we had a dentist in town maned Dr. Loyer.
 
We also have a OB/GYN in town named Dr. Nurse
 
A few years ago the company I worked for got a new president.
His name was Mr. Dickout. When he was doing a tour of the office one 
of the guys wanted to introduce himself and say "Hello Mr. Dickout how's 
it hanging"
From: flaskerud@quark2.aero.org (CINDY FLASKERUD)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 9 Oct 1992 15:55 -0800
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: flaskerud@arecibo.aero.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: quark2.aero.org
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <2060@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM>, pjs@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Peter J. Stonard) writes...
>It's late, I'm tired, I found this thread and it made me laugh.
>Thanks everyone.
> 
>May  I contribute:
> 
>An old boss was: Richard (don't call me Dick) Sticka.
> 
>A current race car driver is Dick Trickle.
> 

  Speaking of race car driver's names, try these:

        Sterling Marlin and Lake Speed

                                              Cindy


Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.singles
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: Questions abour Idaho or Colorado
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:10:27 GMT

jdaves@triton.unm.edu (Jonathan Daves-Brody) writes:

>Hello, on the subject of places to live, we might move to Boise or Longmont, and had
>some questions:
>	1.  What is the legal status of homeschooling?  How hard do they try to find you?

Colorado:
There was a thing in the news last school year about one of the finalists in
the state geography(I think) bee being a homeschooled student.  Don't know
about Longmont, but one of my former cow orkers described a really supportive
group of homeschooling parents in his neighborhood in Littleton.
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education,k12.chat.teacher,sci.med,chi.general
From: meehan@apsicc.aps.edu (voxet praeterea nihil)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 01:54:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <00718501558@elgamy.buster.TX.US>, elg@elgamy.buster.TX.US (Eric Lee Green) writes...
>From article <1992Oct4.154926.12121@news.acns.nwu.edu>, by learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk):
>> On the other hand, as a teacher, you are required by law to give the
>> students whatever is necessary to educate them, are you not? And if they
>> have a diagnosis from a medical professional, why do you question the
>> validity anyway. In short, you disagree with rather a lot, and it is
>> required that you behave in certain ways once the diagnosis is a formal
>> one. So it seems you might have an "attention deficit" in dealing with the
>> details as ordered by formalized policies unless you are "turned on"
>> by them.
> 
>Strangely enough, the educational treatment is the same whether the child
>has an "attention deficit disorder" or a "did not learn how to attend when
>he was young" disorder. I.e., teach "coping skills", small class with much
>individual attention, a formal behavior management system with much
>positive reinforcement, etc.
> 
>This is sort of like the case with dyslexia. Strangely enough, the
>"treatment" for dyslexia is the same as the "treatment" for Chapter One
>kids, whose failure to read was caused by environmental deprivation rather
>than any inherent flaw in their brain. I.e., a ton of multi-sensory
>remedial reading work.
> 
>Thus I can "treat" dyslexia without knowing -- or CARING -- whether the
>child is dyslexic or not. If the child is dyslexic and I apply the remedial
>methods used with dyslexia, the kid will (90% of the time) learn how to
>read. If the child is NOT dyslexic and I apply the remedial methods used
>with dyslexia, the kid will (90% of the time) learn how to read. It doesn't
>matter.
> 
>The same applies to "treatment" of ADD. It doesn't matter, really, whether
>ADD is primarily a medical or a behavioral problem, except to the doctor
>who may be prescribing medicine. To the educator, though, the student is
>treated the same either way -- small class, individual attention, shortened
>assignments, etc.
> 
>--
> Eric Lee Green  elg@buster.TX.US         Dodson Elementary
> (713) 437-6908                             Houston, TX
>                "Kids are kids, no matter what"
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: stark@wam.umd.edu (Mike Stark)
Subject: Re: Giving birth under water
Summary: Automatic naysaying
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:42:55 GMT

We are land mammals.

-- 
---Mike Stark                         | stark@umdhep.umd.edu
   Physics Department
   University of Maryland
   College Park, MD  20742
From: janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:27:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Barbie likes her Math hard (was: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!)
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: misc.kids

>I saw a large display of Teen Talk Barbies at K-Mart the other day.
>According to the back of the box, "Math class is hard" is NOT one of
>the four phrases they say.  However, on the written description of the
>doll, it says that Barbie says four fun phrases about, something like,
>friends, dating, and school.  None of the four phrases listed on the
>box have anything to do with school, so it sounds to me like Mattel
>already realized that they had a problem and did some last minue
>changes.

When I called the Mattel 800 number to complain, they verified that
Barbie does indeed say "Math class is hard".  But perhaps there are
different versions of Barbie out there as well.

Jane Marcus
jane@apollo.hp.com
From: ngivler@bbn.com (Noelle Givler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Aggression in boys (Was: Re: BARBIE
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:53:46 GMT
Reply-To: ngivler@spca.bbn.com (Noelle Givler)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I think that I may have been less than clear when I wrote that -

>I still don't understand, however, why my parents and teachers felt that it 
>was my responsability to handle the bullies. As a sociey we discourage 
>adults from assaulting other adults, why don't we feel the same way about 
>children hitting other children?

I don't believe that we should call in the police everytime we see one child
hit another.  I do believe that it's our responsiblity as adults to discourage
the behaviour.  My experience was that the adults focused exclusively on 
changing the victim (me).  My parents told me that the bullying would stop if
I just 'stood up for myself'.  My teachers advised me to stop being such a 
baby and ignored the school yard fights.  Both parents and teachers made it
quite clear that the teasing, bullying, etc... were my fault.

So you punch the bully in the nose.  With luck he/she stops picking on you.
Does this mean that they stop bullying altogether? I doubt it.  They probably
simply pick another victim. It's great that you are no longer the target but
from a larger perspective nothing's really changed.  It seems to me that rather
than ignoring the bullying  - no one's really hurt, victims have to learn to
stand up for themselves, children will be children - we should be actively 
discouraging the behaviour.

Noelle Givler
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Midwife info/Food and Fluids in Labour
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:59:58 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct12.010022.1085@oakhill.sps.mot.com> amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp) writes:
>In article <ANNE.92Oct9221335@dolores.Stanford.EDU> anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.182554.828@jetsun.weitek.COM> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:
>>
>>   Much of the intervention in US practice is caused by our atypical obstetric
>>   population. Our profile is much more like that of a third world country.
>>   We have far more young mothers (under 18, and even more dangerous, under 
>>   15) and grand multiparas than other developed nations.

>Do you mean grand multiparas to mean many many births, or older women who
>have had many children?  

Both. Greater age and greater number of deliveries independently increase
the risks of a pregnancy.
 
>What about older women in general, and the fact that
>many women are old and NULLIPARAS?  What about all the medical intervention
>given that infertility patients often require much intervention given that
>they often have had obstretical/gyn problems in the past, and are more
>likely to be carrying multiple fetuses?   

Elderly nullips (called elderly primips after delivery :-)) are also a
higher risk group. So are multiple births. It is common practice to 
perform C-sections in all cases of multiple pregnancy these days in order
to avoid problems such as 'locking twins,' and breech birth. I have no
personal opinion on whether or not C-sections should automatically be
performed for multiple births. I suggest that the procedure followed 
should depend on the birth attendants degree of experience with multiple
birth.

>I disagree, although I think in many cases there is too much intervention.
>However, going through a difficult pregnancy, I am more than willing to
>'intervene' if it will help my baby make it.  Having insurance makes
>these interventions available to me, and very tempting.  I think it
>takes a strong doctor to NOT intervene, and a strong and educated mother
>to refuse an intervention that is not needed.  The lawyer aspect is the
>one thing I would love to change about American medicine.  That and
>the 'it's the doctor's fault whenever ANYTHING goes wrong.'  I mean,
>get real--people suing over a misprediction of fetal SEX?  


-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Subject: Re: Aggression in boys (Was: Re: BARBIE
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:19:39 GMT

In reading this posts I keep asking myself the following question, "What is
the bully getting out of his or her behavior" and I think the answer to that
question will be a key into the solution of each particular problem.  I am 
guessing that each bully is different, or at least that there is more than one
type of bully, and that therefore each bully has a different objective.

For example, where I grew up fighting was considred lower class.  We had
pschological bullies.  In most cases the idea was to make the victim cry.  In
achieving this goal, the bully had a sense of power.  The obvious solution
then was not to cry.  If all the teasing and petty games of jealousy didn't
make you cry, they quickly gave up on you.

I imagine a bully who is a bully to get money and doesn't care about the mental
state of the victim could easily be bought off.  The bully who just want to
beat the hell out of someone for pure spite would then be the most difficult
to manage, but being able to inflict more pain than you recieve might work.

And I do think there are kids who will be less affected by the various types
of bullying.  For example, Mitchell went to the park where his best friend and
that friend's cousins play on Wednesday afternoon.  They'd gone before and his
friend had been very inclusive.  But yesterday, Johnny was teasing Mitchell.
Ron was upset about it, but said Mitchell seemed to have had fun.   Later
Mitchell told me about the park.  "Johnny was saying ________ so I just told him
if that's how you want to act, I'd rather play by myself and I played by 
myself."  I asked if he had a good time playing by himself and he said, "Yeah,
I didn't want to play with Johnny when he was acting like that."  

Frankly, it made me feel that Mitchell will likely NOT become a victim of 
psychological bullies.  He doesn't care that much, has lots of other friends,
etc.  I don't know so much about physical ones, but I thought it was a good
way to handle teasing.  

-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
From: fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann)
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-8055]: caesar
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.190258.8727@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:

>	Finally, I think it's more important to work out ways
>	to stop bullying children from bullying than to try
>	to figure out what victims can do to be less victimlike.

Wouldn't the relative importance of the knowledge
depend on whether you have opportunity use it?

Since teachers and principals have the power (ideally)
and the responsibility to define and enforce standards
of proper behavior, for them it is important to know
how to stop children from bullying.

A bullied child (or the parent of one), on the other hand,
probably has very little power to create and enforce such rules,
and therefore must concentrate on that which _is_ in their power
to change, i.e. the bullied child's own behavior.

fs@cs.tulane.edu
From: kuenning@mahler.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Kuenning)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of name
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:51:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler

In article <1992Oct14.094713.18595@nuscc.nus.sg> iscstk@nuscc.nus.sg
(Siew Teng Kean) writes:

> I have a friend who chose the name Evaleen for his new baby, from
> one of those baby name books, and he's now wondering what the
> correct pronunciation is.

I think he got precisely what he deserves, heh heh.
--
	Geoff Kuenning   geoff@itcorp.com   uunet!desint!geoff
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:18:19 EDT
From: Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Statistics on otitis media

An interesting report crossed my desk this week.  The National Center for
Heatlh Statistics released a report on "Office visits for Otitis Media:
U.S., 1975-90" as part of their Advance Data series.  I thought some of the
figures might be of interest to you.

Based on a survey of physicians, the annual rate of physician visits in
which otitis media was the principal diagnosis increased from 31.5 (per 100)
in 1975 to 102.1 (per 100) in 1990 for children under 2 years of age.  There
was no statistical difference between the rates for boys and girls, although
boys had slightly higher rates.  The increase occurred in all geographic
regions, although at different rates--the NE increased the earliest, the
South the latest.

It's not clear how many of the visits were "follow-ups", but in 1990 57% of
the visits were made by "old" patients returning for the care of an "old"
problem.In 1990 just under 1/2 of the visits were to pediatricians, 30% to
G.P.s and the remainder to specialists.  MOre than 1/2 of the visits lasted
10 minutes or less.  The diagnosis of otitis media was the most common
diagnosis for the age group under 2, accounting for 17% of all office visits
in 1990 (up from 7% in 1975.)

The most frequently prescribed medication was Amoxicillin (33.9%), follwed
by Cefaclor (12.1%).

The report offers no explanation for "this dramatic increase", but discusses
other surveys which indicate a true increase in incidence of otitis media
(as opposed to just increased treatment).

So, there are your statistics.  Luckily, Doug has escaped ear infections for
the first 13 months of his life--maybe he just has "good" ear tubes!

Chris Himes
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Victims of Bullies
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:08:15 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

In misc.kids, janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus) writes:
>Is it just me, or is Richard Carlson really getting annoying with his
>clinical study of misc.kidders?

I agree completely.  Richard, please don't use us as a study group.

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"
Date: 15 Oct 1992 08:25:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


My lawyer said one day he was driving down the road in his Vette, and
was checking out this delicious young thing, then looked again, and
realized it was his pre-teen DAUGHTER!  He said she looked soooo much
older (he is a young father), and he felt sooo much older.

-Shirl