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From: caspar@sci.kun.nl (Caspar Terheggen)
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:07:14 GMT

And Elizabeth Taylor when she was young(er)!
She really was incredibly beautiful.

Caspar.
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: With cuts restored:  The Frankenstein Academy of Film.
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:21:01 GMT

Another addition:

"Macbeth" (the Orson Welles version).  "Macbeth" was an unlikely film
to get made - why did Republic, a studio specializing in Westerns,
agree to pay for Welles to make his version of "Macbeth"?  They didn't
even demand that he cast Vera Hruba Ralston, who they were trying to
pass off to the world as an up and coming star, as Lady Macbeth.  On
the other hand, once the film was finished, in true Hollywood/Welles
fashion, they chopped it up.  First, they decided that the Scots accents
were incomprehensible, so they demanded a new soundtrack.  Then they
performed various cuts of the film. 

About 10 years ago, UCLA put together Welles' original cut.  They restored
the original soundtrack (the accents were perfectly easy to understand)
and put in the cut footage.  The most noticeable difference is in the
murder of Duncan.   In the release version, this seems to be shot in a
rather straightforward, ordinary way.  Not in the original version - in
that version, it's done as a single long take, lasting a full reel, and
involving incredibly complex camera movements.  I can easily imagine how
Welles must have felt when he went to so much effort to create this scene
and get it right (on a miniscule budget), only to have it chopped to
pieces by a bunch of guys who thought John Wayne was the greatest film
actor of all time, and who probably would have been happier if Macbeth
and Macduff had squared off with six-shooters, rather than swords.

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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: AFTER HOURS (was HEAD-less)
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:04:03 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.203706.155@sco.COM> maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.043023.20594@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:
>>In article <JEFFT.92Aug10011443@w20-575-76.mit.edu> jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:
>>>
>>>Head is Teri Garr's first movie (small role).  When asked about this movie
>>>on Letterman, she said it was titled that way, so if they ever made a
>>>sequel, the could say, "From the people that gave you Head."
>>>
>>In a similar vein Teri plays a stuck-in-the-Sixties waitress and Monkee's
>>groupie in the film "After Hours". As I recall, she traps Griffin Dunne
>>in her apartment and makes him listen to "Last Train to Clarksville".
>
>
>AFTER HOURS is one of my all-time faves, and IMHO that performance defines
>Teri Garr.  She hasn't been that lovably wacky before nor since.
>
>Anyone else think that was an outstanding film?  Catherine Whats-her-name
>from SCTV was wicked as the Mr. Softee vigilante!

Catherine O' Hara. She also does an incredibly nasty Joey Heatherton...
Guy Cabellero...I WANT TO BEAR YOUR CHILDREN!!!

After Hours was terrific. Very funny, very dark. The only weak part for me
was the Cheech and Chong cameo near the end. But that's only because I
can't stand them!..:) I agree that Teri has never been better on film
although her Letterman appearances on the Boob Tube are always special.

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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Woody and Mia
Summary: What's the story?
Keywords: thank heaven for little girls
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:51:02 GMT

In article <21AUG199213153253@portal.lasc.lockheed.com> le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:


>I find it interesting that someone would excuse her accusations due to
>anger.  Is there any excuse for damaging a person's reputation with such
>a stain?  Now, if he did it - that's another thing.  I thought we don't
>allow for anger as an excuse in this society.  

>>I'm confident though that Woody will get what he deserves.  The girl will 
>>obviously dump him (after missing her relationship with her siblings and
>>mother).

>Wanna bet?

>Ron >8-|

I don't excuse her actions if they are untrue.  I can understand her being 
mad enough to make them, although I don't condone it.  I would think that if 
she made them in anger that she would retract them. 

Yes, I do want to bet that the girl eventually dumps Woody.  $20.00 enough?
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Keywords: This is *BIG* in NYC, and it's only just begun
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:57:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug18.221058.26436@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes...

>RE: Woody Allen relationship with Sun-Yi -

>It certainly however is the moral equivalent of incest...
> 
>Gerald

There is nothing certain about anything to do with morals.  AND lets not 
dilute and degrade this topic with moral masturbating, please!

Ron >8^\
From: strick@athena.cs.uga.edu (Sandra Strickland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Identity of Actress
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:28:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


  

  I'm trying to identify an actress who died in her twenties or early 
  thirties around 1922.  She was slim, dark hair, and quite beautiful.  
  She was probably a promising starlet for a brief period and would 
  have been a contemporary of John (Blythe) Barrymore and Gloria 
  Swanson in their early years.

  I believe that in the early 1900's there was a hotel (Safari resort) of 
  some sort in (Africa?) which was patronized by celebrities-  She was 
  among its guests - perhaps a number of times.

  Any suggestions as to her identity?  I would also be interested in 
  more information on the resort if anyone out there has any.


  Thanks in advance-

					 Sandra
From: rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Summary: Dracula
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:08:00 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

In article <14364@mindlink.bc.ca> Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North) writes:
>> Ed Stastny writes:
>> 
>> Org.  : University of Nebraska at Omaha
>> 
>> What's the poop on the new Dracula film?
>> 
>> I heard that it's directed by Francis Ford Coppolla, stars Winona Ryder
>> as Mina, Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing, and whatsisname as Drac.
>
>
>The "whatsisname" is British actor Gary Oldman (A fairly important
>'whatsisname'!)
>

I read in an earlier issue of Rolling Stone that in Dracula you see
Gary Oldman "dry humps" Winona Ryder.... tragic really!!! (it is true!!
I think it was in the HOT issue with the Chilli Peppers on the cover.

Cheers
richard

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From: medanic@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ivan Medanic)
Subject: StarTrek IV mistake
Keywords: StarTrek picture
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:53:00 GMT

This might have already been discussed but have any of you noticed that when
Kirk looks at his sons picture on the desk that it is in black and white. I
find this very funny when you consider how far in the future the setting of
StarTrek is that they did not use a color picture, when you consider that 
black and white picture had probably not been produced in over 500 years.

Ivan

just waisting time here at the old computer lab.

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From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka)
Subject: Re: Terminator
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:31:13 GMT

>>One flaw that i can think off is the fact that Reese and the Arnie from the
>>second movie can not have ever met in the future. Remember from the terminator
>>Reese had to wait for the terminator to attempt to kill sarah so that
>>he could identify it. Now if he had already seen the terminators twin then
>>why would he have to wait. To a certain extent this is a flaw in T2 as well.
>> -- 
>>____________________________________________________________________________
>>Mark Craddock                      |  'University kills intellect by
>>Department of Engineering Science  |     degrees'   Andrew Davies
>>University of Auckland             |
> 
> 	I tink the T2 book explained this satisfactorily. When they
> 	break into the complex, they find rows and rows of Arnie-like
> 	terminators. But they also find two traces, so they don't
> 	know which terminator was sent to which time. It'd be easier
> 	for Reese to wait out the terminator than go looking for it,
> 	searching for the Arnie-terminator and the "other one" (which
> 	was never seen anyway).
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Hmm..... (see below).

> 	--dan

I believe we DO see the "other" terminator, in the first movie.  Remember
when Sarah and Kyle are hiding out in that cave or whatever?  It goes to a 
flashback when they show the humans making their way back into the bunker.
Kyle sits down and looks at Sarah's picture.  Someone yells "TERMINATOR !",
and we see another "model" come in with a large gun and proceeds to take 
apart most of the bunker.

pete
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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Subject: Re: They Live - John Carpenter ???
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:29:36 GMT

mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (M.J.T. Bell) writes:
>Can some please settle a little argument I am having with someone.
>Was THEY LIVE a John Carpenter film. ie was it directed by him.
>Any other info regarding this film is greatly appreciated.

Sigh,

 it was directed by him, at least that's what the credits said. But, it was
one of those films that make me ask 'Did he really do this piece of shit?' 
(no flames). Just like The Sicilian, did Cimino _really_ direct it?
Well, Carpenter hasn't had much to offer for years anyway so another flop
didn't really surprise me.

Juice
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From: fun5@quads.uchicago.edu (slipstream)
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son?
Reply-To: fun5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:32:57 GMT

In article <twong.05z8@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca> twong@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>Now this could be interesting... Brandon Lee (which I assume is son of Bruce
>Lee) is staring in his own movie due out soon.. The trailers look interesting
>if you're into these type of movies. 
> 
>I wonder if he's as gifted(?) as his father.. charisma and physique-wise..
> 

Pictures show him to be cut OK, but nowhere near as defined as his dad.  Char-
isma?  Not as much.  Acting?  Better than his dad, but not that much.  
Fighting?  Ahhhhh ...

Brandon doesn't have the superfast reflexes or the superfast moves of his dad.
His kicks, while not as fast, though, are clearly something that he trained 
with from the very first, unlike Bruce Lee; therefore, Bradon seems more 
comfortable with kicks.  Brandon trained with his dad's best student, Dan 
Inosantos, and it shows; I've seen a few scenes from Rapid Fire in which he 
uses the principles of Jeet Kune Do very effectively and fluidly.

And so that you aren't taken in by the tripe about JKD that the newspapers (at
least the Chicago Tribune) emphasize:

Jeet Kune Do is NOT a "martial art invented by Bruce Lee by combining the best
of every existing martial art".  Rather, it is a philosophy and set of 
principles of unarmed hand-to-hand combat dealing with methods of attack, 
defense, movement, and evasion.  While many of these clearly have their roots
in boxing, wrestling and various martial arts, JKD is not a martial art but
rather a set of guidelines.  The fighter ideally studies several martial arts
until a high degree of proficiency is reached, the first one being the 'core'
martial art; JKD teaches how to apply the techniques in a real fight, and on
occasion suggests methods of improving speed, rhythm, and timing in the aspects
of combta mentioned above. Thus, Brandon's 'version' of JKD can be and is
different from his father's, which is different from his students, etc...

Anyway.  I know most of you probably weren't interested in the above, but I 
had to get it off my chest.  Its been a pet peeve of mine that the martial arts
and scientific developments are NEVER EVER portrayed accurately in the mass 
media.

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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: the rapture ** spoile
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:20:56 CDT

In article <1992Aug8.1489.25636@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>MM>Uuummm, glad to see that you're keeping an open mind and not subscribing
>MM>to any biased and negative Christian Stereotyping :) I think that you'd
>MM>find that the vast majority of us have *nothing* in common with the people
>MM>portrayed in the Rapture, although there are certainly people who behave
>MM>in the way you describe. I certainly hope that people don't take this
>
>     Oh, I'm a confirmed Christian myself (though I've had serious doubts
>     about my faith since then, but that's a topic for an entirely
>     different conference).  I know enough to keep an open mind on this
>     VERY touchy and sensitive subject - and on the other hand, I thought
>     "The Last Temptation Of Christ" was a terrific movie.
>
>     It's the way the movie twists the ideas of faith and religion,
>     in much the same way that certain religious fanatics do, that I
>     find offensive and downright ridiculous.  I've heard that the movie
>     was made as a deliberate attempt to show how blind faith and
>     obsessive commitment can lead to a person's ruin - but this movie
>     certainly didn't offer any clues that it was meant as a lesson in
>     morality of that sort.  For the heroine to suffer through trials

And you've just neatly nailed down the main problem of the movie for me.
If you're going to take pokes at people's religious beliefs you better
spell out pretty clearly what you're up to. I am lso offended by blind
faith without any rational basis for belief (Can you say "Grape KoolAid?"
I thought you could...:)). Without providing any balance to the portrayal
it comes off as only a cheap stereotype. It's a part of the current
humor/irony-impaired culture that we currently inhabit. If the intent
of the movie was to condemn only a certain segment of the Christian 
population I would say that it failed utterly.

In short, there was a kernel of truth in this film which should be
heeded but the generally shoddy quality of the movie as a whole
tended to obscure it almost completely.

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From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Subject: Re: *GREAT MOVIE ACTORS*
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:00:10 GMT
Keywords: male only (hunks vs. babes)

In article <20586@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
>
>I have to add even a few more (see how bored I am?):
>
>Christian Slater
>Christopher Reeves (Somewhere in Time)
>Jon-Erik Hexum
>Dirk Benedict
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>John J. York (the Jon-Erik lookalike)
>The guy that used to play Jimmy Lee on General Hospital -Steve Bond?
>


Wow!  A blast from the past!  When I was about 12 and he was playing
Starbuck on "Battlestar Galactica" (oooooooohhhhhhh, this is 
embarassing), I had a major crush of gargantuan proportions.  That
was when I discovered the beauty of alumni associations.  I read 
(probably in Teen Beat, remember that mag?) that he was a graduate
of Washington State in Walla, Walla so I wrote the association and
asked for his address (gave some bogus reason).  I got his address
in California (not, as I'd hoped, his Montana address) but never had
the nerve to send him anything.  Then he starred in some terrible
movies (one with WILLI AAMES! le pew! le pew!) and my lusty thoughts
turned to greener pastures.  

So, if you're ever feeling really really really sneaky one day and
think it would be fun to send mail to the movie idol of your choice, 
find out his or her *real* name, find out where they graduated from,
and think up a good excuse to need the address.  Have fun!
  
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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Aug 92 03:47:00 CDT

Two rather disturbing incidents I recall involved the movies, "Little
Shop of Horrors" and "Exorcist III". During "Little Shop", when Rick
Moranis is hacking-up Steve Martin with an axe, some little twerp
about 3 seats away from me started yelling out; "It's not sick! It's
Bitchin'!!!" He repeated this several times while other people nearby
tried to shush him up. The usher finally kicked him out. The second
incident occurred during several parts of Exorcist III. Whenever a
murder occurred during the film a group of spastic teens in the front
row would yell out, "Show da body!!!". Seems they were expecting 
another Friday the 13th installment. Kinda made you want to tie the
little buggers to their seats a-la Clockwork Orange and force them 
to watch "I Spit on Your Grave" until their tiny brains imploded...

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From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:43:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Is there anyone else out there who wondered why (or was dissapointed by the
fact that) the T-1000 never got into any large-scale fights with anyone
other than Ah-nold & Friends?  I'm sure the T-1000's biggest advantage is
stealth and infiltration, but you'd think it could hold its own against a
large number of people.

Just a peeve,
Geoff
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From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: quiz answers
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.180841.7513@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:
>In a recent rec.arts.movies article, Brian C. Friesner wrote:
>>
>>I hate it when they don't get the same actors to play in sequels.
>>(ala Jack Ryan played by Alec Baldwin and Harrison Ford)
>
>But Harrison Ford is exactly who I imagined Jack Ryan to be when I
>first read the books. I was totally bummed when they cast Alec
>Baldwin in Red October (although he did an okay job) and much
>relieved when they recast it in Patriot Games. Just so long as
>they don't recast it *again* for Cardinal of the Kremlin and the
>rest...
>
>
They probably won't as the publicized reason for going with Ford in the second 
movie was because they wanted a big star to play the part of Jack in all of 
the remaining movies that they decide to create (the same person).
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From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:52:30 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>Given that Mia married Ole Blue Eyes in her early twenties I don't
>really think she's got a moral leg to stand on.

Huh?  Just what was supposed to be "immoral" about her marrying Frank
Sinatra?  Because he was older, or what?  It might have been weird
but I don't see what's immoral about it.
.
.
.
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: quiz
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:24:34 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

BCF>Name the movie that is the source of each quote.

     You must have liked the "Back To The Future" movies:

     1) Part I
     2) unknown
     3) Part II
     4) Part II
     5) Part III
     6) Part I
     7) Part II
     8) Part I
     9) unknown
     10) Parts I and II

     Some of those may not be quite right, but still...
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