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From: don@grc.genroco.com (Don Woelz)
Subject: Reading MIDI files with MOTU Performer
Organization: GENROCO, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:33:53 GMT

I have acquired several files in MIDI format from various sources
over Internet and have them on my ULTRIX system.  I have been having
some difficulty getting them from there to my Macintosh in a format
that they can be read by MOTU Performer.  Can anyone offer me any
help or suggestions on how to do this?

What I have tried so far:  using kermit (binary mode) to transfer
the file to the Mac, then using ResEdit to change the file type and
creator type to MIDI and MOUP respectively ala Performer's own MIDI
file format.  Performer tells me it has some sort of read error when
trying to open that file.

Your help would be much appreciated.
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From: sgs@terapin.com (Stan Sawyer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Analog suggestions, anyone?
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:54:16 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <41050174@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter
Brooks) writes:
>I'm making up my Christmas wish list ("I wish my budget will allow me
>to buy a XXX for Christmas...") and an analog synth is hitting the
>top of the list.  I've got a couple of contenders; if I get a module,
>the Oberheim Matrix 1000 is the most likely bet, but if it's a
>keyboard, there's a fair amount of used beasties floating around the
>market.
>
>For the keyboards, I've seen a couple in the 300-500 range.  One of the
>units is a Sequential Prophet 600.  It's nice having *knobs* for the
>front panel, but I get the idea that the programs are strictly
>presets.  Is this true, or is there a way to write on to the memory
>short of a PROM burner?  If true, what's available for ed/lib?  
>
>A keyboard vs no keyboard is a moot point for me.  I'm pretty happy with
>my digital synths for master control duties, so the only real attraction
>for an analog keyboard is the front panel.  Still, it would be nice to
>be able to store that information without a Polaroid.
>
>So, to the analog.loving.net.gurus: What's out there for analog in the 
>300-600 price range?  I'm keeping this under the price range for the 
>Microwave (at least a new one), but anything used is fair game.  MIDI
>programmability a plus, filters a must, and portamento very desirable.
>
>Pete Brooks
>
>

I have a Prophet 600.  I love it.  Yes you can save the patches you
create into any one of the 100 recallable locations.  It's very simple
to program new stuff and save it.  (In fact the only problem I've
ever had is overwriting patches I meant to save.)

I *do* run mine through a chorus stompbox to make it stereo, but other
than this the sound is quite good.

Also, these little beasts can still get repairs and upgrades done through
Wine Country Productions [(408)265-2008]. They've provided me with a PROM
upgrade and service when my unit went haywire.  I've used it hard since
I got it in 1983.

  sgs@terapin.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Hope for the Future (was Re: Vintage Synth Re-Issues)
Summary: Fear not
Organization: Atomic City
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:58:59 GMT

In article <92276.144047ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET> <ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>But having a look at the market today it is not difficult to understand why
>all this great synth/companies has dissapear .. I'm sorry guys we are probably
>a small group of *synthesist* .. People today didn't even appreciate the
>Roland JD800 attempt !!! ..
>Sighh .. I can't write anymore ..I'm going to cry !!!!
>Where are we going ???

This will probably sound kind of strange coming from someone who recently 
paraded the anti-General-MIDI banner around r.m.s for several weeks, Andrea,
but I don't think we have anything to fear. The old machines will be out
there for those who MUST have them, and enough of the new machines make an 
effort toward originality that they will survive until they're no longer
"cool" and hence available used for reasonable prices to those with patience.

There will always be room enough in the human race for people who prefer to
play the piano and arrange for traditional acoustic instruments side by side
with those who love to explore noise for its own sake. One thing I've had 
hammered into me as a nuclear physicist is that you can't ever get everything
back into Pandora's box. These sounds once existed, and they exist today--
no one will ever be able to take them away from us forever. It may not be as
easy to get the odder boxes once General MIDI dissolves the market into a
gutless slagheap of conformity (TM), but it'll never become impossible.






-- 
metlay            | 
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From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: General <Duh> MIDI Poll (was Re: GM Good for Music)
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:14:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2AC88EDD.29233
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Sep25.003355.1290@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton) writes:
>
>    1.  Rossi does exits.  I know because he sent me email :-)
>    2.  In that mail, he admits to *being* dog (or was it God).
>        So, if he's playing (poker) with himself, we have a whole
>        new discussion of onanism!

	Waitaminit...  Now we're on to dogs playing poker??  What is this?
rec.it.may.not.be.art.but.i.know.what.i.like?  ;^>

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From: gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Voyetra's Sequencer Plus Pro for sale
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:44:04 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

hELLO,
   I am intertested in selling my copy of Voyetra's Sequencer Plus, manuals and
all.  It works real nice with the Sound Blaster Pro, but i have not been using
it much lately.  Make me an offer...its a MIDI recorder, arranger, editor, and
more for your litttle MSDOS machine.

Not GINGERIC9178 but Robert Williams
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: etlgtme@etlxd32l.etlxd (Grant McFarlane,XD/GEEC,GH)
Subject: Looking for something to complement my setup
Keywords: looking, advice, need
Reply-To: etlgtme@etlxd32l.etlxd
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Burgess Hill, England
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:50:15 GMT

I badly need a sound module, or synth to complement my setup at home. It looks
like this:
            Synth: Yamaha DX7
          4-Track: Yamaha MT3X
         Computer: Atari STFM (2 Megs, TOS 1.62, 50 Meg HD)
                   Sequencer-One, Pro 12.
     Drum Machine: Roland TR-505
 Signal Processor: Yamaha SPX-50D
Tape Synchroniser: XRi Systems (SMPTE)

At the moment I'm only using this for fun but I want to get back into writing
jingles for TV & radio stations and maybe demo some of my own stuff to record
companies. Because the DX7 is mono-timbral I can only make very limited use of
the sequencer on the computer so I looking for a sound module or even another
synth (Multi-timbral) that will open up the setup and make good use of the
computer.
I've had a play with a friend's Roland sound module (can't remember the model)
but wasn't impressed. The strings were weak and there were too many plinky
plonky sounds like 'clav', 'marimba', 'vibraphone'. I can get all these sounds
from my DX7. I'm looking for warm strings, fat synth sounds, rich synth bass
etc etc. I can't get my hands on any stuff around here 'cos the only dealer
that was in my area has closed down :-( . I believe Yamaha have recently
released a sound module with a built in 16 Track sequencer !? Has anybody tried
it ?? I think I'm going to have to make the long treck to London to try these
things out?? Anybody know of Dealers in the Brighton area in the UK ??
As far as synths go I've had my hands on some Ensoniq stuff (again, can't
remember the model, but it had a built in sequencer, cartrige port and you
could add more memory for the sequencer if you liked). It was nice but I'm
sure there's better.
The sound module and synth must be at least 8-note polyphonic ( ie 8 notes at
the same time) and Multi-timbral to the same spec. Built in sequencers are not
a necessity although built in effects would be nice. I prefer Yamaha and Roland
stuff but maybe somebody can open my eyes to other manufacturers.
My price range is anything up to 500 pounds max (900 dollars) for a sound
module and anything up 1500 pounds (2800 dollars) for a synth although I might
fork out more if the machine is right for me.

Thanks in advance,
Grant.

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From: skahn@farallon.com (Scott Kahn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: skahn@farallon.com (Scott Kahn)

Fair enough. I'd still prefer a Roland S-770, though!
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Where do I get a MIDI keyboard? (warning: clueless person posting)
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:35:28 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


Don't yell at me, I know *nothing* about MIDI stuff or anything.

I want to get a cheap keyboard for my NeXT.  Whatever MIDI stands for, it  
is apparently important that what keyboard I get has it.  So, where do I  
get one?  I went to an electronic music place, and they had keyboards for  
$1000-$3000 range.  Very nice, but more than I need.  The guy there  
recommended I go to K-mart or someplace, and get one of the cheap ones.   
Just make sure it has "MIDI".  (I just want to play around... I'm not a  
music person.)  So, I go to K-mart and a few other places, and see about  
12 different keyboards (mostly Yamaha and Casio, $100 to $200.), and none  
of them have MIDI.  I go to Radio Shack.  Now they had one for around  
$400.  Again, a big monster, and much more than I need.

So, is there a list of MIDI keyboards I can get, their costs, and  
where/how I can get them?

Um, is there a FAQ for this group?  I looked, but there didn't seem to be  
one posted.

Respond via EMAIL since I don't read this group much.

fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Question:  Powerbooks and MIDI
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:01:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.laptops
Organization: Farallon Computing



In article <9p+pnfd.metlay@netcom.com>, metlay@netcom.com (metlay) wrote:
> 
> In article <murat-250992180146@192.100.87.66> murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar) writes:
> >In article <NICK.92Sep25123912@vaila.ed.ac.uk>, nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick
> >Rothwell) wrote:
> 
> >> Who knows? Not Apple, that's for sure. They've been lying for six months.
> >
> >Oh really?  They were quite honest with me. 
> 
> NO they WEREN'T, Murat. They LIED to you. 
[Stuff deleted.]

No, they didn't lie to me when I asked them.  Maybe they lied to you. 
Maybe they believed it themselves.  I'm pissed off that my cool new PB 170
is useless for receiving SysEx.  But I don't feel compelled to accuse Apple
of lying.  It just hasn't been my experience.  Maybe it has been yours.


> >   -  the PowerBooks cannot handle large MIDI SysEx dumps [ we knew that
> >:-( ]

> Unmitigated horse's hit. My poor little PB100 can handle SysEX dumps from
> Oberheim Xpanders, Korg Wavestations, and Roland U-50s without dropping
> a single bit. It does so every time, and hasn't failed yet.

Happy, happy, joy, joy.  I guess I should have beem more rigorous in my
summarization.  The PB100's DO NOT have a problem with MIDI.  However, they
do only have one externally accessible serial port, no?  I suppose this
limit this can be mitigated by using something like MOTU's multi-cable MIDI
interface (name escape's me at the moment).

 
> >   -  Tech Note 318 "Serial PollProc" is inaccurate and will be revised 
> 
> HA! Opcode implemented the "inaccurate" version of TN318 and produced a
> patch to OMS that rendered the 140 and 170 completely MIDI-friendly! So
> Apple doesn't even know when they've gotten it RIGHT, the morons!

When I called OpCode to ask about their rumored PowerBook friendly OMS
patch, they said that it was currently in Beta and that it did NOT use the
technique outlined in TN318.  Perhaps they were lying.  :-)

I certainly hope that OpCode has solved the problem.  Perhaps MOTU can find
a solution too.  MOTU also claim that they tried the technique outlined in
TN318 and that it did not work.  Perhaps they are lying too.  :-)

______________________________________________________________________________
Murat N. Konar
Sound Software Engineer (NOT!)
Farallon Computing, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.marketplace
From: knight@rtsg.mot.com (Paul E. Knight)
Subject: DBX 163X compressor wanted
Summary: Looking for one ...
Keywords: DBX 163X compressor wanted
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:30:02 GMT

Anyone with a DBX-163X (or similar) 1U rack-mount style compressor for
sale, please drop me a line.  

Tnx,

Paul Knight

paulk@cradhp10.comm.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Wanted:D-50 Manual.
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:39:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep30.145404.43473@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, kentaro@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes...
>I
> just bought a used Roland D-50 and I was wondering if any body
>could send me a copy of the manual.

Calling Roland (who are still in business) will probably get you a nice printed
manual for close to copying cost, AND you avoid copyright hassles and net
traffic.

Of course, whichever way you get it, it will still be a Roland manual, and you
are probably better off purchasing a third party guide.

Eirikur Hallgrimsson   |    "Rhodes?  Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!"
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: marsh@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Subject: Re: Kawai K4 librarian?
Reply-To: marsh@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Organization: GWDG Goettingen, F.R.Germany
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:28:29 GMT

In article <15473@suns8.crosfield.co.uk>, imt@crosfield.co.uk (ian taylor) writes:
>We have recently acquired a Kawai K4r, and need a patch librarian or editing
>software for the Atari ST.
>Is there a 'Steinberg Synthworks' for the K4 ? 
>This would be our best option, because it would fully integrate with Cubase, 
>but any other software which does the job would be OK. 
>Anyone know of anything?
>
>advTHANKSance
>
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Tibor.
From: v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: "Ethnic" Samples vs. Proteus 3
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:02:56 GMT
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO


  nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

|> Sure. That's why I have nothing against the Proteus3 as a
|> (potentially) interesting instrument in its own right. What I have a
|> problem with is the "we need a didgeridoo and some Tibetan chanting...
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
|> no problem, the Proteus3 has them." attitude that the original message
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
What's wrong with that?  Why do you object to this "attitude" so
vehemently?  Surely you aren't going to say, "because it doesn't
sound like the real thing..."  or, "...because the original instrument
is much more expressive than can be captured in a sampler..."  That
would be...ridiculuous:  Samplers can't even capture a PIANO well...
Why worry now?

sjm
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: EM Objectivity (was Re: EM reviews the Alesis ADAT... and loves it)
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:09:19 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>In article <53603@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>	I haven't seen this mentioned in r.m.s. yet, so here goes.  After
>>months of vapor and smoke, the Alesis ADAT has been reviewed in ELECTRONIC
>>MUSICIAN magazine.  In short, they think it's absolutely terrific.  Wow.

In article <2941@news.cerf.net> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) writes:
>Not to burst any bubbles but EM thinks everything is terrific.

	That is definitely, definitely, definitely not true.

	I have read every issue of EM for the past 8 years or so.  They
have both positive and negative reviews.

	I do think that KEYBOARD's reviews are better, though.

                                                        Dan

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From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Re: Midi song - "Borderline - Madonna"
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:52:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9209302055.AA12742


How is this UUENCODED SMF 'copyrighted material'?  First, we don't even know
what is in the SMF.  What we have is a subject header which indicates that
when it is UUDECODED, the resulting SMF when played back (as to how it is 
played bback, usin what 
MIDI modules, etc.) should somehow resemble (what we must presume to be) the
song Borderline as made famous by Madonna.  This SMF isn't being sold and
there are no assertions that the UUDECODED SMF will even vaguely resemble
the song Borderline.  Also, the poster is not taking credit for the creation
of the said work, and is, indeed, attributing it to (one would suppose)
Madonna (who, incidentally, might not even think that the played SMF even
resembled her song).

Anyway, these types of SMFs have been around for years.  They exist on BBSs
which belong to MIDI/Computer companies (Hybrid Arts, as an example) which
would probably not want to jeopardize themselves in any kind of legal
copyright murk.  My guess is (although, I don't profess to know the specifics
of how these kind of things fit into copyright law) that this way of passing
song information would be no less acceptable than doing a hand transcription
of a song on sheet music and giving it to a friend.

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon)
Subject: Re: Ensoniq VFX Synth bugs
Reply-To: xrjdm@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:29:19 GMT

In article <Bv9CBF.MtL@pci.ists.ca>, ismail@pci.ists.ca (Karim Ismail) writes:
> Any feedback on this would be appreciated:
> 
> About 6 months ago were using a VFX.  It was bought used, and the
> seller mentioned that the original VFX had bugs in it, and that the
> one he bought had a new software upgrade (new EPROMs or something)
> and that the problems with the original VFX wouldn't be evident in
> ours.  Not quite. 
Yes, it sounds like the seller didn't get the keyboard fix. The definitive
word on this is that there are two pressure-sensing boards in the VFX and
VFXsd which have a connector between them. This connector loosens up and
causes "KEYBOARD CALIBRATION ERRORS", among other crashes. The solution is
to hardwire the two boards together. The SD-1 was changed so that the 
pressure sensing board is now a single board. The flux removal business
was a red herring, though it may have caused problems too. The real
culprit is the pressure board. 

> We've heard a lot of stuff - some people say there are no more
> bugs in the SD, others say there are problems.  What's real story ?
Nick Rothwell found a number of bugs with the VFX when using it as a master
keyboard. I'm afraid I don't have the list to hand. I will say that I
have used my VFXsd in several sessions and have had no trouble with it.
There are bugs in the software. 

Disclaimer: the VFXsd is my primary (only) keyboard and I do all my 
work on it. You may choose to believe this is due to good experiences
or undiagnosed insanity, as you choose.

-- 
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P.O. Box 13 |        if it picked up a lowpass filter and four-poled them."
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tonim@mits.mdata.fi (Toni Miettinen)
Subject: Yamaha CX5M
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:56:30 GMT

 Does anyone still use this old Yamaha music computer?
If so, what kind of software do you have?
I have heard that there has been some kind of sampler for it. Does anyone
know what kind of?
It would be nice to talk about this old synthesizer.

--
 Toni Miettinen - tonim@mits.mdata.fi
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:17:28 CST
From:         Rod Lemcke <LEMCKERO@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      XOR profiles wanted!!!

Please reply to me if you have this profile... I am looking for a profile for t
he Alesis D4.  The profile is for the DR.T's XOR Amiga version.  Please let me
know if anybody has this, I would be MORE than grateful...

                                                            Thanks...
                                                                      Rod L.
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sony Hi-8mm Digital Recording ... for Ross
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:17:00 GMT



You apparently do not exist, at least that's what Manchester's header told
my mail server...

Anyway, could you elaborate a little further on that 6-stereo tracks you
recorded on Hi-8mm.  I assume it was digital since you indicated a 32KHz
sample rate.  Respond here (I think others will be intrested, as well) or
to me by direct E-Mail.  Also, even if you respond to r.m.s., please send
me a personal message so I can figure a working return path to your 
mailbox (by the time BBN echoes r.m.s. to me as mail, all kinds of hops
get inserted into the return path, which I have to send through a non-MILNET
site, anyway).

John