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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Riker Takes Command!
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:00:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1993Jan5.180951.18666@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
]In article <1993Jan4.171856.17438@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> plant@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
]>So much concern over who takes over the Enterprise!  Riker is probably
]>next in line, but two things (I think) limit his chances:
]>
]>
]>Send in your guesses; maybe we can influence Stewart to resign
]>by scaring him that someone worthy is set to replace him!
]
]    I like the idea of Kenneth Branaugh (sp?) ( in his Henry V incarnat-
]    ion ) as the next captain of the Enterprise.  What do you think?

Just as long as he doesn't repeat the St. Crispin's Day Speech everytime
the Big E goes into battle. :)

And *no* scissors!! :)

(Actually, I thought that was one of the better parts of Henry V but I
 felt the need to joke)


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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Schisms : Somebody is out of uniform!
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:38:40 GMT

While watching Schisms the other day a friend noticed that while the
camera was focused on Data's face reciting his poetry you could see  
in the background a guy wearing bluejeans with a belt.  Anybody else
catch this?  So what was he doing not wearing a uniform but instead
20th century clothes?

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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why aren't there any black aliens?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:24:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <s1P3wB3w165w@ailanthus.com> tallman@ailanthus.com (Robert Oliver) writes:
>In reality it is probably easier to apply make-up to 
>fair skinned actors then to dark-skinned actors 

	Only if you don't want to work with dark-skinned actors.



-- 
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	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
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From: ah179@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Wilson)
Subject: Cloaking dangers?
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:40:37 GMT


In reference to a recent post about Starfleets non-use of cloaking
technology.  I have no source, but I understand that, in the
series, cloaking has not been proven to be entirely safe for the
crew (or all races of the crew).  Maybe it does not affect Klingons
and Romulans over long term, or the designers of Starfleet's ships
would hate for us not to see their pretty lines.  :-)
 
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From: marchini@ds10.scri.fsu.edu (Juan Marchini)
Subject: Re: Best Episode?
Reply-To: marchini@ds10.scri.fsu.edu (Juan Marchini)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 22:01:23 GMT

of all that i've seen i would have to say:

Darmok
I, Borg
(the one where Picard gets zapped by the alien satelite and he learns to play
 the flute, and live a different life on a dying planet, i don't know the
 name)

btw, these are not necessarily in the order of precedence.

juan

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From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers - Thumbs down....
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 00:27:55 GMT

fedor@dinah.lerc.nasa.gov (Gregory Fedor) writes:
: In article <1993Jan7.115314.19067@husc3.harvard.edu> chan4@husc11.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) writes:
: 
: >Sorry for this waste of bandwidth, but I don't post often, and this show just
: >really bugged me, not only because it sucked, but also because it gives Sci-Fi
: >a bad name.  If this show sucks in the ratings, how can we expect networks to
: >come out with better shows?

Oh really?  Remember when ST:TNG came out?  Go back and look at "Encounter at
Farpoint" now.  (I've seen it recently.)  Give "Space Rangers" time to be tuned.

: Kinda makes you glad Paramount decided to put TNG and now DS9 in syndication!

Which remeinds me of another network show which was cancelled.  It was in
September of 1966 when it premiered.  The network tried to cancel it twice,
but letter writing campaigns saved it.  It was finally successfully cancelled.
Or was it?  It has been in syndication ever since.  Do you need any more
clues?

: For all the TNG bashers out there, even the worst TNG episode (you decide 
: which, it doesn't matter) beats "Space Rangers" hands down.  I'll find it
: hard to believe (as I already do, but now more so) how *anyone* will be
: able to say TNG or DS9 writing sucks.  My standard reply to these people will
: be "Did you see Space Rangers?"

Get some bread, and you will be able to make a ham and cheese sandwich.  :-)
(References to hammy acting and cheesy scripts, but we like ST:TOS don't we?)
Remember your legacy before you stick your foot in your mouth.  ;-)

I will admit that "Space Rangers" blue-screening was obvious.  They probably
did it inhouse.  Give them time and they'll fix this too.

By the way, does anyone know what computer they used to generate the ships?
I happen to know what they used for "Babylon 5".  (See signature for info.)

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From: kindred@telesciences.com (David L Kindred (Dave))
Subject: Re: Use of "sir"
Organization: Telesciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:55:40 GMT

In article <C0Ezsx.CKD@acsu.buffalo.edu> dgthomas@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne Gilles-Thomas) writes:

   Can someone please give specific examples of when a female superior officer
   was referred to as "sir" by a crew member?  Was this ever done in the original
   series or in the movies?

At least they are consistent.  We don't have to put up with a Radar
O'Reilly (sp) stumbling with a Yes Si.um..Ma'am line all of the time..
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Subject: Re: No Longer Part Of The Cult
From: CHD@HERMES.ECE.ARIZONA.EDU (Chris De Young)
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:10:29 MST
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In <1993Jan04.115956.26728@uumeme.chi.il.us> rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us writes:

[...]
> into the same catagory as Soap Operas, now more than ever.  The first sight
> of this was when they started ending the season with 2 part episodes, as
> if we were not going to watch them next year unless they gave us a reason. 

Actually I agree with you here, though I thought that Best of Both Worlds
was pretty well done.

>  We are starting to see more
> and more flesh on the show, and less and less action and adventure.

The original series certainly had its share of flesh as well, especially
for the 60's... I don't see the focus of TNG moving too far in that direction,
at least not yet.

> Now, it seems
> as if the writers are just reusing episodes, and mass producing episodes. 
> I truly think that if ST:TNG and ST:DS9 want to stay around, they will have
> to start comming up with truly original material, and once again getting
> that flair of survival.

This is where I have to disagree somewhat.  There have been some less than
wonderful episodes, I freely admit, though I think the original series
had its share of dogs as well ("Spock's Brain" is the one everyone picks
on, not without reason....).  The problem, I'd bet, it that they have to
keep a schedule, and whatever scripts they get they *must* use 1 a week
(more or less).  If they have a week or two where they don't have any excellent
scripts to work on, then they have to produce a less-than-excellent one.

I realize that sometimes they will get lucky and get several good ones, 
and get ahead of schedule so to speak, but not always.  And then there are
going to be scripts that one person loves and the next person hates;
if they guy who loves it is Rick Berman and the guy who hates it is joe viewer,
guess who wins.  ;-)

Regardless, I think that TNG has had some very good stories along with the
so-so ones.  One of my favorites, the title of which I have a mental block
against, is the one where Picard gets zapped by the probe and lives another
life on a dying planet (star is going nova).  Its got its share of scientific
holes, I admit, but a well done story nonetheless.  On the average, the 
good TNG stories are better IMO than the good TOS stories.

-Chris
chd@ece.arizona.edu
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From: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,talk.bizarre,rec.humor
Subject: Re: DEEP SPACE 9 DRINKING GAME
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:38:43 -0500
Organization: GIZMONICS INSTITUTE
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Summary: PAY ATTENTION!

In article <1993Jan6.225130.23374@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso) writes:
>THIS IS AN ORIGINAL DRINKING GAME I MADE UP FOR ST:DS9!!!
>FOLLOW-UP THIS POST WITH SOME OF YOUR OWN AND IT WILL BE PUBLISHED!!!
>
>Whole beer:

For everytime Roger Carasso (or a simulation thereof) posts an article
with followups directed to misc.jobs.offered, rec.music.country.western,
or misc.test.

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From: scratchy.caltech.edu!kasturi (Tejaswi Kasturi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why aren't there any black aliens?
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:32:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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Originator: kasturi@scratchy


Worf and most of the Klingons are black.

Tej Kasturi
kasturi@cco.caltech.edu
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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Re: Riker Takes Command!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:09:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.171856.17438@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> plant@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>So much concern over who takes over the Enterprise!  Riker is probably
>next in line, but two things (I think) limit his chances:
>
>
>Send in your guesses; maybe we can influence Stewart to resign
>by scaring him that someone worthy is set to replace him!

    I like the idea of Kenneth Branaugh (sp?) ( in his Henry V incarnat-
    ion ) as the next captain of the Enterprise.  What do you think?


        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
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From: pads@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen J. Padbury)
Subject: Re: DSN-Philly 29-reg slot?
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:50:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.180436.24451@Princeton.EDU> mhnatsis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martha Helen Natsis) writes:
>adding to the growing number of requests for times&dates of DSN showing,
>could someone please tell me when the regular time slot for DSN is, from
>Philly? I heard that it's showing on Saturdays, but not the time. Please
>tell me what the correct information is!                     

DSN will be showing at 7 pm and TNG will be moved back to 6 pm.


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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 23:34:19 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <79482@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <1ihrv6INNrmp@shelley.u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek) writes:
>
>Bwahahahahaaa!!!  "Give me liberty or give me death!" is all well and good.
>But you don't get to make that choice for me, and one person shouldn't get
>to make that choice for everyone there.  This isn't a starship, where they're
>"out exploring the unknown" and they are *knowingly* putting their lives
>at risk.  This station has a lot of civilians on it, people who don't give
>a s**t about fighting the Cardassians and who certainly aren't willing to
>die, even for one PRINCIPLED woman.

They are on a space station. Yes, in the 24th century, they are
relatively safe, but at any time things could go dreadfully
wrong. Anyone in space, on a plane, or out to sea, is knowingly
putting their lives at risk. 

One of the more common trends in SF is how to deal with problems
in space. Stowaways are spaced. Mutineers are spaced. Anyone who
is a potential threat to the survival of everyone in the
station/ship is spaced. This is because it is often a very all or
nothing situation, where everyone on the station could be killed.

While in the era of Star Trek, this isn't used (they are much
more civilized, and one person cannot effectively threaten the
ship), the absolute, unquestioned command of a facility is.
Picard on the Enterprise can order its destruction, and everyone
on board knows it, and won't try to stop him (or shouldn't, at
least). The situation on board a space station isn't different.

>Your principles are your business, don't drag me down because of them.

Unfortunately, the decisions of the commanding officer may
intrude on your business at any time, even requiring your death.
If you cannot accept that, you shouldn't be on the station.

Oddly enough, I'm probably one of the few fans out there who
doesn't feel that Starfleet is military in nature. In
organization, yes, because the military-style chain of command is
probably the most effective way of dealing with the situations
exploratory ships will encounter, like it or not.

>As for the Cardassians going on to the planet and reinvading:  Why?  There's
>nothing left on that planet of any use for them.  They've stripped it
>clean.  They don't need the planet anymore.

This I agree with.

Joshua
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: DSN Promo for: A MAN ALONE (#403)
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:49:38 GMT


Promos for the new ST:DSN episode: "A Man Alone" (#403) were released
today.  This actual program will air starting on Saturday, January 16th.  


Here is the promo copy (announcer):

VOYAGE TO DEEP SPACE NINE, WHERE SECURITY OFFICER ODO MUST 
CONFRONT A NOTORIOUS CRIMINAL FROM HIS PAST...

   [ Odo fighting with a Bajoran man, Sisko breaks it up ]

   [ Sisko and Odo talking ]

  Odo:  He went to prison for murder.  I sent him there.

NOW JUSTICE BECOMES AN ISSUE OF LIFE... AND DEATH.

   [ Bajoran man in holosuite; he is stabbed in the back ]

   [ Sisko and Odo talking ]

  Sisko:  You're not going to take the law in your own hands.

  Odo:    Watch me.

   [ Zayra talking to Kira and Sisko ]

  Zayra:  He was afraid that Odo would kill him.

   [ Kira talking to Odo ]

  Kira:   Who might want to frame you for murder?

   [ Mob chasing Odo ]

   [ Sisko talking to Odo ]

  Sisko:  I am temporarily reliving you of duty.

   [ Zayra and mob corner Odo ]

ON AN ALL NEW EPISODE OF STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.


-{ Dean Adams }-

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - TNG - #238: Ship In A Bottle
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:40:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.190533.5304@news.acns.nwu.edu> mark-brodsky@nwu.edu writes:
>In article <4735@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Ship In A Bottle
>> _P_R_O_G_R_A_M_ _H_I_G_H_L_I_G_H_T_S
>> 
>> 	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: "Ship in a Bottle" -- A calculating
>> 	Sherlock Holmesian character traps Picard and others in a holodeck
>> 	simulation.
>>
>Araggggg, another Holodeck show. Why don't they just seal the damm thing up,  
>it's caused far more problems then the Romulan's or the Borg. I for one am  
>tiered of this plot device. Along with "Fist Full of Datas" this makes two  
>holodeck shows in three months! They should be original or just show reruns!

Yes, but this is the long awaited follow up to the second season episode,
"Elementary, Dear Data". Remember, Picard promised the simulate-Moriarty
that someday they would find a way to make holodeck matter real? Sounds
like Moriarty has gotten tired of waiting...


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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST:DS9 - I saw the premier on Satellite!!!!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:15:03 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities) writes:
>I think that it will serve to be the most, shall we say, spiritually
>challenging of all the Trek variations. The others seem to be . . . quite
>secular in comparison.
>
>I am already waiting for the next one. It may not replace TNG (or Trek
>Classic) in my heart of hearts . . . but then again, what will? TNG will
>serve quite nicely as a close substitute.

I diametrically disagree.

Just because the DS9 characters explicitly mentioned the word
"spiritual" or its derivatives several times doesn't make
it a more spiritual treatment. Quite the contrary, I found
it to be a futuristic Excalibur; chasing crystal goblets
about the galaxy, for Heaven's sake! It's a children's
fairy tale, ghosts, and goblins, Prefect!

TNG is far and away better than TOS and sings praise
to the Human spirit in different ways. Now *that* is
spirituality!

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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN - questions, poss. spoiler
Keywords: clueless news posters
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:52:47 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1ibrihINN2si@mirror.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald D Rodabaugh) writes:
>>And, I am sure that the man who played Gul Ducat (sp?) also played Gul Maset
>>in a previous episode of ST:TNG. I need to have this confirmed and have the
>>name of the actor, please.

>The actor's name is Marc Alaimo and he played Gul Maset in
>"The Wounded", in which Captain Ben Maxwell of the U.S.S.
>Phoenix goes ape shit shooting Cardassian ships left
>and right.

I'm rather impressed with how alike all the Cardassians look, even though
they're (generall) played by different actors with a relative minimum of
make-up.  And yet they all ACT differently and have different voice
inflections, making them fairly easy to tell apart.  I wonder if this effect
is calculated, or incidental?

For a race I'd originally thought was a useless throw-away (a la the Talarians
in "Suddenly Human"), they're slowly becoming rather interesting.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"My favorite Star Trek With Jean-Luc episode is the one where some alien
 kills another in the first five minutes and then the crew debates for the
 next 55 minutes about what to do.  My favorite Star Trek With Captain Kirk
 is the same as anyone else's, the one where Kirk, overacting, falls in
 love with a beautiful alien babe, which Spock calls illogical, and where a
 bunch of security guys die.  You know the one?"
							- A friend
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From: ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host)
Subject: respresentation
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:06:40 GMT

Bajorans represent fans who want to just enjoy the show
Cardassians represent fans who want to bitch-to-death the show faults
[ Why are they fans? Because if there wasn't a show there would be
  nothing for them to enjoy bitching about ]
Ferengi represent the fans who want to make money from the show

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