From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Xfree86, XS3 Mouse configuration
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:29:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1992Dec19.104955.16073@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell) writes:
>>> While I have the utmost respect for Roell's contributions, I am saddened
>>> that he chose to flame Amancio like that.
>>
>>As are we all.
>
>I love to see this happen that Amancio turns everything I say into the
>opposite and against me personally. And also note that I did said any word
>about my contributions here, this is expilicitly about somebody elses
>contributions, which I'm really missing named.
>
>What drives me really crazy, most of them time when he posts something,
>he doesn't answer the question asked (see this recent ET4000 vs. ET4000/W32
>thread) instead he tells everybody how great his XS3 is. Besides this, read
>carefully his reply to my posting. What I said was basically:
>
>        - He talk on the net as if he was the only one doing XS3 alone
>        - The S3's graphics eingine differes only in one register from
>          a 8514/A
>
>What he answered was:
>
>        - The README contains other names
thomas forgot to mention that I cut and past my second statement on the
README file  stating clearly that XS3 was based on Kevin Martin's server.

>        - The S3's SVGA registers differ from that of a 8514/A (which is
>          natural since the 8514/A has no SVGA registers)
	Also, will like to add the that the S3 graphics engine differes
	in more than one register. And I refuse to tell little t. what
	the differences are, period.
>
>See, what I mean ? There is no relation between questioning and anserwering.
>That's one my crititcs.
>
>>Please note - I'm not trying to take ANYTHING away from Amancio.  It's
>>just that Rich's contributions to XFree86, and support of 386BSD, are
>>very large, and tend to be completely overlooked.  Amancio has been
>>concentrating on XS3, and Rich has done ALL of the XFree86 work for the
>>last many months.  So please give credit where it's due.  Amancio's
>>work is great, but so is Rich's.
>>Implicitely you all seem to strengthen only my point here. Amancio's work 
>on XS3 is really great, not doubt about this. But one should also see behind
>the curtain and see there that XS3 is based on a working 8514/A server. 
>And doing the 8514/A server from scratch is much more work and deserves
>much more credits than 'just' doing the hw specific initialisation of
>just another mostly 8514/A compatible chipset. I just wanted to remind
>people about this. 
>
>- Thomas
>
>PS: My oppionions about Amancio might be pretty much influenced by how
>    he articlulates himself in private e-mail communiction about real
>    issues. If somebody writes in a technical discussion if he's out of
>    arguments 'Fuck you', what would you think of him ?
		^^^^^^^^
Since, his intentions with respect to me seems malicious, I want to set
the tone of future discussions between him and I. Yes, this is personal
between him and I.
>
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Saint Thomas tends to be inflammatory during pseudo-technical discussions.
For instance, "Are you so dumb that", in reference to something he has
no clue of what is going on. His intentions with respect to
me are malicious. And, as such gets zero amount of information from
me. Folks, this is just something personal between thomas and I.
This is not the first nor the last time that him and  I going are
at it. Whenever, possible, I will keep  our hostilities private.
I am very sorry that all of this is being drag out in the open.


Since the technical discussions are being handle in the 386bsd and 
linux arena, thomas I don't want to correspond with you either
private or publicly. If you decide to correspond with me it is
going to be of a personal nature. Again, I have zero interest in
having any technical discussion with you.

Amancio Hasty


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