HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Helena Warburg <Helena.Warburg@williams.edu>
Subject: Mt. Snow
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72E6CA357010923@bronfman-mac05.williams.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14: 32:19 GMT
Organization: Williams College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:30:07 GMT

Mt. Snow is open from top to bottom with at least four trails.  Infact,
it's snowing there right now.  11/17/92.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Subject: Re: To all of you who call yourselves skiers...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:10:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

"Christian A. Pegher" (cp1t+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
:
   [the ultimate nerd's defense of rec.skiing]

: I know this will probably turn into a flame war with the X-Country
: skiiers, but I feel I must react to such an arrogant but feeble attack
: at my most loved past-time.  

Well, at least you responded in kind.

See ya at the hotel bar,

scott
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Jackson Hole
From: "Roy O. Casali Jr" <rc4s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:14:47 -0500 
Organization: Freshman, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If anyone good furnish me with a recent snow report from Jackson it
would be greatly appreciated.

	Thanx,
		Roy Casali(rc4s@cmu.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: drew@juliet.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Please! Name our ski team
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:01:32 GMT

In article <BLANE.92Nov18172722@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com> blane@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com (Michael Blane) writes:
>Hello netters,
>  We are uncreative and need help choosing a name for our corporate NASTAR
>team.  Previous monikers include Sprockets and Frost Heaves, so please, 
>don't suggest one of those.  I will post a summary, so start thinking....
>
>The Fair-haired Tupperware Boy and Wonder Dog Rin Tin Tin-foil (woof)

How about the Yard  Sales?
-- 
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. | Drew Eckhardt
Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two.		 | drew@cs.colorado.edu
Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix |
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: National Asian Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:21:10 GMT
	<1992Nov16.204556.29374@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<1992Nov18.023520.6376@nas.nasa.gov>
	<1992Nov18.195849.8938@clarinet.com>
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

>>>>> On 18 Nov 92 19:58:49 GMT, grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson) said:

gr> It seems any time I mention the idea of quitting my job and ski bumming it
gr> for a year or two, I immediately become an outcast.   In fact, I have yet
gr> to meet one person who says "Cool idea."

*Really* cool idea.  If it wasn't for my advanced state of indebtedness and my
homemaker wife, I'd probably be in line for it.  I picked the next best thing,
though: I moved to Colorado...
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Chant of the week:  "Snow, snow, snow, snow..."                    ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mab43232@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Becker )
Subject: Re: Please! Name our ski team
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:47:30 GMT

How about the Death Cookies? 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: djm408@tijc02.uucp (David Marks)
Subject: North Carolina resorts to open 11/16/92
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Distribution: net
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 16:24:47 GMT

All you southern skiers get your equipment waxed and sharpened as Sugar
Mountain Resort and Ski Beech will both open 11/16/92!!!

It has been in the teens to 30's (farenheit) all weekend and both resorts
have been making snow like crazy.

Sugar will have Big Birch and the lower third of Flying Mile open serviced
by the green triple chair.

Beech will have Lower Shawneehaw and Powder Bowl open serviced by double
chair lift #1.

I was in Banner Elk at Alpine Ski Store outside of Sugar and at the Ski Patrol
building under the Beech quad to see for myself.

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From: carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (CarlsonPeters 7898)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: National Asian Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:38:21 GMT
Organization: L.A. Dept. of Water & Power

In article <1992Nov19.021150.24764@slate.mines.colorado.edu> btowell@slate.mines.colorado.edu (TOWELL BRIAN PATRICK) writes:
>-hey Grant......"Cool Idea"
>
>I did it for a year at Jackson Hole, and overall, it INCREASED my
>work/school ethic by the  time I went home.
>
>BT

I did it for six years at Breckenridge.  When I gave it up to finish school,
I found I actually had found a work/school ethic (w/sE).  This was in marked
contrast to the complete abscence of a w/sE when I flunked out of school and
decided to try a winter as a ski bum. 

Note: These are strictly individual results.  The actual amount of w/sE
to be gainded in a winter ski bumming will vary.  Be warned, several 
winters may be required to get the pump flowing.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carlson Peters			L.A. Dept. of Water & Power
carlson@manta.dwp.la.ca.us	111 N. Hope St., Room 1129
213.481.7898			L.A. CA 90012
From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: To all of you who call yourselves skiers...
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:24:37 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

I trust everyone has sent E-mail to Svein. 

--
J. A. Carr                                    |  "The New Frontier of which I  
jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu                           |  speak is not a set of promises
Florida State University  B-186               |  -- it is a set of challenges."
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute |   John F. Kennedy (15 July 60)
From: jdt@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: For Sale: K2 Unlimited VO Skis & Marker M46 bindings
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:16:35 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego CA

For Sale:

K2 Unlimited VO Skis (200cm) with Marker M46 Bindings.  $200

These are top of the line sport skis, made with Kevlar.  They
are for aggressive Sport skiers and are FUN to ski on!!  The
bindings are also top of the line sport types.

They have only been used about 12 days and are in excellent
condition.

Also Ski Rack for sale: Fits 82-85 Toyota Celicas and many others. 
$50

Jeff Thayer
Computervision, San Diego, CA
(619) 587-3109
jdt@calmasd.prime.com
From: blucas@warren.med.harvard.edu (Brenda Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Cheap NH/VT lodging nr x-c ski areas
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:32:16 GMT
Organization: Countway Library of Medicine

Ideas wanted for inexpensive Saturday night lodging near Cross Country ski 
areas in mid and north New Hampshire and VT. Pls reply to list or email
From: blane@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com (Michael Blane)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Please! Name our ski team
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:27:22 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.

Hello netters,
  We are uncreative and need help choosing a name for our corporate NASTAR
team.  Previous monikers include Sprockets and Frost Heaves, so please, 
don't suggest one of those.  I will post a summary, so start thinking....

The Fair-haired Tupperware Boy and Wonder Dog Rin Tin Tin-foil (woof)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Subject: Re: Steepness
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:56:42 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD - MWTD) - Santa Rosa, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Ken Sharp (sharp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com) wrote:
> They cannot possibly mean the main run under the Exhibition Chair.

 Yes, they do.

> I could believe it if they mean a "Exhibition Run" off the Pallisades
> Cliff stuff ABOVE the Exhibition/Headwall bowl area. 

 Er, um I think there's some confusion here. The Exhibition chair is
 nowhere near either the Pallisades or the Headwall chair (Exhibition 
 is at the base of the mountain, next to KT22). Further, there is no
 run in the Pallisades known as "Exhibition".

> I have never gone down that because it is so steep (and it is right 
> above a fairly crowded ski slope) 

 This sounds like a description of Main Chute. Empties into Siberia Bowl.

> but it sure looks like the steepest thing that Squaw has.

 Hmm...maybe. There are some slopes that are steeper, and many that are
 steep for much longer.

 ..glen

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Telemark powder ski rec.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:21:04 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Nov17.165135.13058@alf.uib.no> edb28@bih.no (Oyvind Litlere) writes:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> - Jesus loves me this I know, cause he gave mee powder snow  -
> -------------------------------------------------------------- 

Satan hates me this I see, 'gave me breakable crust to ski.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: rodrigul@ibg.colorado.edu (Larry Rodriguez)
Subject: PRE Electra 2000 skis
Organization: IBG, University of Colorado, Boulder
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:36:26 GMT

Does anyone have any information regarding the PRE Electra 2000 skis.
I'm mostly interested in any positive or negative comments regarding
their performance characteristics.  I believe that particular model is
about 3 years old.  Can someone confirm this?

I have the opportunity to purchase these skis new, with new Look Z-7
bindings (demos) for $99.99 from a local ski shop. 

Thanks for any information.

Larry Rodriguez
rodrigul@abacus.colorado.edu
Boulder, CO
From: bassuk@stein.u.washington.edu (James Bassuk)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: What's Hunter?
Keywords: Do you want a better option?
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:35:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov18.003522.11216
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hmmmmm.....let's see where to begin.  Hunter is a zoo on weekends.
Windham is a zoo on weekends.  So, where does that leave us?

Weekdays.........both places are *relatively* uncrowded, but the nod
has to go Windham.


********************************************************

   Jim Bassuk, Ph.D.
   Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington
   NetworkAddress:  Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu  

   'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?'

********************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Sunday River (Maine) questions
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:46:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.205550.17611@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> wrw1@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (wayne.r.wiebalk) writes:
>To those who have been there:
>
>	How far to the nearest airport? (hopefully Bethel?)

Maybe Portland (about 1hr to SR); definitely Boston (about 3hrs). Definitely
not Bethel.

>		Does that airport rent cars?

Don't know about Portland, Logan does.

>		Sunday River shuttle?

They have a shuttle for their properties on the mountain.  SR is not like
Killington though, there aren't tons of other places to stay near there and
you'll still need a car to get there.  Of course, there's no place to go
apres ski, so you won't need it once you get there!

>	Do you have a favorite place to stay?

I've stayed on-mountain twice (I paid $170 last year for two nights lodging
and two lift tickets at Thanksgiving).  I've also stayed about a half/hour
away at a huge motel that did MAP--it was about $150 for two nights, three
meals, and two lift tickets.  SR has a lodging number you can call for more
info, it's 1-800-543-2SKI.  I'd stay on mountain if I were you.  

BTW, if you like to ski, Sunday River is a good choice.  If you need other
types of entertainment, you are better off staying in North Conway (NH) and
skiing Attitash or Cranmore or Wildcat.  Then you can do restaurants, or 
nightlife or shopping.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
From: cal@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Tony Lelm)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:38:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Steepness
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, brunette@netcom.com (Hal Brunette) writes:

> Here's an abridged version of a table appearing in the December 1992 Snow
> Country magazine which I found very interesting.  
> 
> Name of Run       Where                   Percent Grade          Degree Slope
> 
> The Headwall      Tuckerman Ravine, NH        116%                49   
> Great Scott       Snowbird, UT                 98%                44.5 
> Saudan Couloir    Blackcomb, BC                87.5%              41   
> Corbett's Couloir Jackson Hole, WY             80%                38.6 
> (Typical Household Staircase)  --------------  63%  ------------  32.3 
> Palivacinni       Arapahoe Basin, CO           58%                30   
> Outer Limits      Killington, VT               42.6%              23   
> Exhibition        Squaw Valley, CA             41%                22   
> White Heat        Sunday River, ME             38.5%              21   
> Prima             Vail, CO                     37.5%              20.5 
> Spiral Staircase  Telluride, CO                35.8%              20   
> Goat              Stowe, VT                    35.3               19.5 
> 
---------------------------

The Snow Country article also lists the rise, run and length stats for
these slopes, which gives another interseting basis for comparison.

Anyone care to add their favorite "steeps" to this list?

For instance:  How does Alf's at Alta compare?

< Tony Lelm    cal@fc.hp.com   303-229-6082
Cogito ergo ski-----Carpe skiem-----What you seize is what you get------
From: templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Gore-Tex vs. ULTREX
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:59:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

Hello,

I've been buying Gore-Tex skiwear for years in the faith
that it's the best waterproof/breatheable fabric on
the market. Now I see that North Face (just to name one
vendor) has gone to a different material called "ULTREX".
Has anyone had experiences with both materials which they
can share? Is Gore-Tex beginning to lose popularity?

-- 
---------------------------------------------------

	Fred L. Templin
	(templin@grayling.Berkeley.EDU)

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: speedy@speedy.demon.co.uk (Jeffrey Holdgate)
Subject: snowfall
Distribution: world
Organization: Jeffrey Holdgate Associates
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:16:18 +0000

Is there any likelyhood of snowfall in California (Tahoe) for Xmas ?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: To all of you who call yourselves skiers..
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:15:38 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.121532.25379W@baron.edb.tih.no>, sveint@edb.tih.no (Svein Gunnar Tjoenndal,o92b) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.194012.20161@bmw.mayo.edu>, fahje@cvdv80.mayo.edu () writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >
|> >--
|> >I hope you ski better than you spell.
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >*******************************************************************************
|> >Martin H. Fahje                              Internet: mfahje@mayo.edu
|> >Mayo Clinic                                  Voice: (507) 255-7568
|> >200 First Street SW                          FAX: (507) 255-5484
|> >Mail Stop 2D-342 STM            
|> >Rochester, MN  55905            
|> >*******************************************************************************
|> 
|> Actually, I ski a LOT better...
|> (better than most)
|> 
|> No offense meant by my first conference,
|> but I really wanted to know if there were any serious people here.
|> I got my answer:  There are.
|> (Although some are not, Greg).
|> Question:
|>   Is only USA discussed here, or are Europeans welcome as well?
|>   If any of that sorts read this, I just wondered how the season
|>   has started out in Southern Europe. 
|> 
|> My real name and adress, folks:
|>    (The third letter my last name you US guys can't read properly,
|>     but it's an o with a line across, pronounced like u in run)
|> 
|>        Svein Gunnar Tjnndal
|>        vertra 34
|>        7080 Heimdal
|>        Norway
|> 
|> PS! Any other allrounders on this line, or am I all alone?
|> 

Your unsurpassed ego seems to put you in the "all alone" category.  Do you
have to buy an additional lift ticket to accomodate your swollen head and
inflated self-image?  I took the first flame-bait as just some pencil-necked
geek trying to get a rise out of the collective (as, apparently, did a
lot of other folks), but I see now that it was more than that.  

Looks like we've got a live one here!

Cheers! (and 6-9" more predicted for this evening!!!)
-- 

David G. Simmons
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,co.general
Subject: Re: BOYCOTT Purgatory-Durango
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:08:51 GMT
	<Nov16.234155.61924@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
	<FINEMAN.92Nov16171655@tatertot.arc.nasa.gov>
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

>>>>> On 17 Nov 92 01:16:55 GMT, fineman@tatertot.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Fineman) said:
C> Nntp-Posting-Host: tatertot.arc.nasa.gov

C> (Jim Puckett) writes:
J>It has come to the attention of this office that those responsible for the
J>nasty, nasty Amendment actually reside in Durango, CO during the month
J>of January. Week of the 9th-17th, I think.
J>
J>SHOW 'EM YOU CARE! BOYCOTT PURGATORY-DURANGO!!
J>
J>jim p.
J>

C> Y'know, my first instinct (not that I would necessarily follow through
C> on it!) would be to go and protest somehow. You and your friends could
C> wear triangles (color?) or where some a t-shirt with a statement of
C> some significance on it. I think that is a better way (as opposed to
C> just not showing up) for a relatively small group to make it's
C> feelings known.

C> 	Chuck

Guys?  Guys!  He's going to be skiing there that week!  He doesn't want anyone
else to show up!  He's suggesting people boycott that week so he has all the
Colorado powder he can snort all to himself.  Get it?!  It was a *joke*!!!!!
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Shreddin' Copper on Friday, wanna come?                            ISSC Boulder
From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Actual Vail Comments,
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:24:21 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Nov9.182750.12034@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>In article <Bx98w8.61M@spdg.com> rwaters@spdg.com (Rolland Waters) writes:
>>
>>Fake?  Vail Fake?  This is one of the most outrageously true statements
>>ever to grace the halls of rec.skiing.  Very fake.  Bavaria in the
>>desert, I was really embarrassed to be near any Germans who might
>>think I was there because I liked the architecture.
>
>Vail is just a sample of the good old American dream of life.
>Hollywood is fake.  Dizzyland is fake.  Powder is Utah is fake.
>It's like travelling to EPCOT in a way (German pavilion).

Excellent analogy.  The town of Vail, wherein a sheep ranch was converted 
into a swiss village, has a lot in common with Disneyland, wherein an 
orange grove was turned into a medieval castle.  Walking its streets 
has all the authenticity of dining at a "French" sidewalk cafe at EPCOT. 
At least the mountain a Vail appears to be real, although it may only 
be a matter of time before they have a "space mountain" ride in the 
summer and we learn the awful truth about it. 

By the way, if any of you are under the illusion that anything at Walt 
Disney World and vicinity has anything to do with the real Florida, 
stop by Tally on your trip and I will happily show you some places 
the developers missed.  

--
J. A. Carr                                    |  "The New Frontier of which I  
jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu                           |  speak is not a set of promises
Florida State University  B-186               |  -- it is a set of challenges."
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute |   John F. Kennedy (15 July 60)
From: bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Derek J. Wojciech)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.sport.snowboarding
Subject: Wax removal - mineral spirits???
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:33:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have gotten conflicting reports on using mineral spirits (paint thinner) on
removing old wax from my snowboard.  Some say it will harm the base.  I'm
no expert chemist, so could someone set the story straight?  My base
is Grade 1000 extruded polyethylene (ptex 1000?)  My board is a 92 Burton Air.
Please email me the responses.  Thanx.
 
					Derek
 

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that we live between, Fire and   |-----------------------------/    **   '
Love, there's more to life than  | Surfing or Snowboarding         ****
the eye can see.'  Guardian      |      ridin' the Wave........._-*********
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