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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Finder Lost Files
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:49:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec15.005608.13495@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters) writes:
>1. I was at the highest level of my HD's second partition (H2) and
>2. I had subdirectory "W71" selected without meaning to.
>
>3. I then pressed the Shift key and selected X071.SHK and X072.SHK
>   which I wanted to delete.
>
>4. As I moved the three files towards the trashcan I saw my
>   mistake and moved them back to H2. (All three still selected)
>
>5. I hit the mouse button whil not on top of any of the three and
>   nothing happened.
>
>6. I then hit the mouse button two or three times very quickly and
>   all three disappeared. Nothing was in the trash can and it had
>   not flashed during this period.
>
>7. I then tried:
>	a. Mr. Fixit from ProSel 16 - No errors
>	b. Exume Files from ProSel 16 - My files didn't appear
>	c. Undelete files from Copy ][ + - Lost files message
>	d. Undelete from UtilityWorks - Block Busy message.
>	e. Mr. Fixit Master Directory option - No errors.
>	
>I'm fairly certain that the files are on my HD and are somehow
>removed from the directory, memory not idled, and yet Prosel
>doesn't see this as an error.

I'm not familiar with how all those utilities behave, but here's my
best guess:

When you were dragging the files back to the main H2 window, you
let go of them on top of some other folder, without realizing it.
So they aren't deleted, they just aren't where you wanted them.

Try a Find File on the whole disk and see if they're hiding
somewhere.

If that's not it...well, somebody else take a guess!
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Pascal on a ][+
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:01:04 GMT

>>I've got a friend with what is essentially a bare II+.
>>Question:  Which of the 8-bit Pascals can he use, and what hardware
>>does he need to use it?  I think his only card is the diskII
>>controller.  No lowercase ROM.  No 80col card.

>The OLD APPLE PASCAL will run on a ][+, 
>	-you have to have a 16K language card to get up to 64K
>	80 col and 2 drives make it less torturous but even then 
>	it's pretty horrible.

According to my Pascal 1.3 manual this version will run on a 64k ][ or ][+.
(I assume by 'OLD Apple Pascal' 1.1 was being described). Certainly a 80 col
card would be desirable and two drives almost mandatory. Pascal 1.3 is US$69
from Resource Central.
-- 
David Wilson				+61 42 213802 voice, +61 42 213262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
From: jlars@pro-storm.cts.com (John Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Printer Spooler
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:01:21 GMT
Organization: ProLine [Pro-Storm] -- Dallas, TX -- 214/644-5113


   Where might I find Buffer Int.64??  I am based innorth Dallas

John Larson 

ProLine:  jlars@pro-storm
Internet: jlars@pro-storm.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-storm!jlars
Bitnet:   jlars%pro-storm.cts.com@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: bsc (was Re: MODifier)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:40:01 GMT

In article <1gev85INNl0e@pith.uoregon.edu> nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker) writes:
>In article <1gedv4INNo42@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P.
>Whitesel) writes:
>>irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>>
>>>BSC is a shell utility by Neil Parker.  Due to a conflict with the libraries
>>>it doesn't compile under DEC RISC Ultrix 4.1 or 4.2.  Neil will hopefully fix
>>>this (he's looking into it).  
>>
>>Has he tried removing the "b" mode letter from fopen() ? Ultrix chokes on it.
>
>The error message That Ian Guy sent me seems to indicate there's a conflict
>with the access() system call, not the "b" in the fopen().  In fact, if
>you're getting the "b" at all under UNIX, then you've got the wrong options
>turned on in the Makefile.  The "b" should only be appearing under VMS or
>if the -DFOPEN_NEEDS_B flag appears in the Makefile (which should NEVER be
>the case under UNIX)...
>
>...Ack.  Another possibility just occurred to me.  Since Ultrix, like VMS,
>comes from DEC...er...does somebody out there know whether the Ultrix C
>preprocessor defines the symbol "vms"?  If so, is there some other symbol
>(like "ULTRIX" or "ultrix" or some such thing) that it also defines, so I
>can check for Ultrix and explicitly #undef vms?
>
>(*sigh*  If only I had an Ultrix machine around here somewhere to check
>this stuff on...)
>
>              - Neil Parker
>
>P.S.  Moral:  UNIX isn't nearly as portable as it pretends to be.

Ultrix ISN'T Unix. Unix is is quite portable. Maybe Ultrix isn't very
portable.

TIM MEEKINS                    Ask me about GNO/ME! - MultiTasking on a IIGS!
meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu     Procyon, Inc., 11738 Aqueduct Drive
AOL: GNO Tim2 (@aol.com)       Littleton, CO 80127   (303) 933-4649
                          
      "Computers aren't intelligent, they just think they are."


From: tribby@hpindda.cup.hp.com (David Tribby)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:53:12 GMT
Subject: Need SynthLab File Formats
Organization: HP Info Networks Div/Cupertino CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2

I'm writing a program to play with MIDISynth tools, and would like to
read instrument, wavebank, and sequence files. Unfortunately, the formats
of these files were left out of the system 6.0 documentation published by
ByteWorks. I understand that Apple included the information on a developer
CD (along with other 6.0 R&D documentation).

I'd appreciate it if someone could mail me the formats for these files.

Thanks in advance!

Dave Tribby            Internet: tribby@cup.hp.com   GEnie: D.TRIBBY
Hewlett-Packard Information Networks Division, Cupertino, California
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:55:18 -0500 
From: "Seth D. Kadesh" <sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: deskjet 500 & 500c drivers

i forsee a deskjet 500 or 500c in my immediate future.  who makes
drivers, do they take advantage of the color capabilities of the 500c,
and are they any good?  what about the 550c?

  seth ---> sk2f@andrew.cmu.edu
and his amazing signature!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
Subject: BRAM settings
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 11:01:56 GMT

Can someone post a map of all the BRAM locations and what they do...Also how
do you change them, I have the locations in page 0 for border etc and when I
change them they keep changing back upon reset so obviously these are not the
'real' locations.

Also, can someone post the bram locations that the ZIP uses (among any others
they might have)..

P.S. Does anyone have docs for Ram Disk control (I know apple frowns on this,
but it's for my own programs, I'm not gonna release incompatible programs
upon the unsuspecting public).. I just want to try a few experiments.

P.P.S. Does apple release tech notes in electronic media, if so, can someone
send them to me please.

--

Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca                 Land of the rising snow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: craigr@ausom.oz.au (Craig Read)
Subject: Having trouble with downloads
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:12:03 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Hi, Just wondering if somebody can help me out...

I'm not sure if this message gets echoed to other boards b.  But just in case I'm currently using the AUSOM Macboard and having a great deal of trouble trying to download with a //gs...  I've tried both X-Modem and ZModem and get heaps of errors either oc

I somebody could tell me what is wrong I would be grateful...


SCheers, Craigr...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: Flakey Option characters
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:08:09 GMT

Install the General control panel if it is not installed and set
Translation to Standard. The setting is stored in BRAM, so you don't
need to keep the control panel around.
 
If you are programmer, you can fix it a bit easier
with _SetKeyTranslation(FF) in Nifty List while running a desktop app.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu (for a few more hours)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: ORCA system() command ... help!
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:57:39 GMT

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:

>Hail,

>please, someone help me. The following code produces (after executing
>the system() call) an error message "Could not find file:" from the
>system. Very strange. 

   Have you tried this under ORCA as well? (I'm assuming you're
using GNO :-)

>  it = strdup ("compile -E -P test.c  keep=test");
  
   It could be a bug in strdup.. after the strdup, pop into GSBug and
see what the string actually is.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:14:04 GMT

I wrote:

> 	IBM supported the PC jr for years after it discontinued it. They even  
> had people who would come out to your place to fix it. Hey, IBM may not make  
> good machines, but their service kicks butt. If it breaks, they can fix it.

	Correction: this is commenting IBM's former service record. I guess its  
gotten worse over the years. :)

	PS : Hey, I'll admit it when I'm wrong! :)

| Hal Bouma                            | Send mail to: HBouma@Macalstr.edu    |
| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
 \  Things that make you go Hmmm:  System 6, GNO, DreamGrafix, SoundMeister  /
  \  Coming sometime this decade for the //GS : NBA! (GNO compatible too!)  /
   \  Drop by and say hi to us anytime on the #AppleIIGS channel on IRC!!  /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cranem@edsi.plexus.COM (Mike Crane)
Subject: Re: QWK reader..
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:47:36 GMT

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:
>I know this is a basic question but: What is QWK? A mail format, a mail
>reader????

QWK is a format used by FIDOnet systems that allows you to pack up their
messages into a single file, download it to your local system, generate
replies while off-line, and upload those replies.  This can be *really*
handy for those who still frequent FIDOnet systems and spend hours of
time reading/replying-to messages there.  And it can take a couple of
hours to do that since the mac and apple2 echos (as they are called)
typically have over 100 messages each day.
-- 
Mike Crane     GEnie: M.CRANE   America Online: MIKE566
Internet: cranem@edsi.plexus.com, cranem@csystems.appleton.mil.wi.us,
          Michael_Crane@ntc.com, mike566@aol.com
"Who needs drugs...we've got UNIX!" - Me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cmcurtin@bluemoon.use.com (Matthew Curtin)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:38:16 EST

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

> dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
> >No way. Who's gonna
> >revise our System Software? No one. 
> 
>   Procyon, an Apple II software company with extensive operating
> system experience, is in great shape to do just that, as long as you're
> willing to pay for it.

If I might, I would just like to state that I answered the above question 
(with the same answer, by the way :) when I posted the first article of 
this thread :)

Anyway... It's really simple, Roy. There are lots of us IIers still 
around. We just have to be willing to support those who support us. We've 
got software (GNO, DreamGrafx, Out of This World, etc, etc, etc). A new 
CPU is coming (the Avatar machine... BTW, does anyone have any new info on 
Avatar? I'd bug BurgerBill, but he probably has his mailbox full of 
questions like that :) we have support from the Alliance, and user groups.

How about publications? How about GS+? II Alive? A2-Central?

OK, so the Apple II doesn't have a 82.587% share of the desktop market. So 
what? That still doesn't mean that I can't enjoy my Apple IIs, that 
doesn't mean that there won't be any more software or hardware developed 
for it, that doesn't mean that ever Apple II CPU is going to 
simultaneously explode at midnight on December 15 or some other random 
date.

Your Apple II is no less useful now than it was when you bought it. In 
fact, it's probably considerably more useful. So enjoy it, and don't 
squeal - it doesn't do anyone any good. And it won't make you feel any 
better.

 __________________________________________________________________________
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| P.O. Box 27081                ! but mere sheep, following each other in  |
| Columbus, OH 43227-0081       ! the name of compatibility." -B. Heineman |
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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Zip Chips
Date: 21 Dec 1992 07:27:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I was real lucky when I called. They gave me a new one and told me that
I was out of luck if it went bad. I have a spare and if I can get another
I will as I use it on my BBS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Apple //e in the U.K.
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:16:10 GMT

sadamson@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (stuart.r.adamson) writes:

>Does anybody out there know how to get hold of RS232 or Teletext
>cards for the Apple2 //e, in the U.K.?

I don't know about Teletext, but RS-232 cards are readily available.
The best-known card would be Apple's Super Serial Card (SSC).
As far as I know, there has to be a user group for the // in England.
If that's true: Ask them, someone there should have such a card for
sale. I have one, too, but S/H from FRG to the UK would be higher than
within the UK.

Soenke
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Connections, #4. Repost.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:03:01 GMT


Thanks for the compliments of Connections. It's been amazing to me how many
user groups are re-printing it, and it's also gratifying.

As a writer, some days you have it, and some you don't. That last
Connections was essentially a first draft, written in a fit of inspiration.
But, in some ways, I think it's one of the best I've ever written.

The Apple II world has been good to me. I've been making my living for the
past 6 years with my Apple II, and since I'm not a programmer, I can't
create a freeware software as a way of saying thanks. So, just think of
Connections as my way of saying thanks...

Joe Kohn
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 11:25:47 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <Bz68nH.L2I@news.iastate.edu>

In <Bz68nH.L2I@news.iastate.edu> Harold Byron Bouma writes:
>I wrote:
>>  IBM supported the PC jr for years after it discontinued it. They even
>   Correction: this is commenting IBM's former service record. I guess its
>gotten worse over the years. :)

I don't know what IBM's current repair strategy is for PCjrs.  For our
machines (PS/1's) we work with motherboard swaps or even entire machine
swaps when under warranty.  I don't know what happens out of warranty, but
I guess I could find out.  Motherboard swaps are just plain easier for
everyone; luckily it only takes a few days at most to get a new machine.
I don't know what happens to the returned broken boards.  We might scrap
them for parts or try to fix them then sell again or fix them and use them
internally.  All this is pretty moot, since the IBM machines are open
architecture and it is not difficult to find someone who fixes them for
$x+parts.  This is much harder to do with any Apple.  Maybe if Apple keeps
increasing its marketshare with the macs, more individuals will service
them themselves (voiding warranty of course).

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GS/OS System Error.... HELP!
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:09:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


My GS was working wonderfully until I tossed it in the car and brought it
home.  Now, when I boot system 6, I sometimes get:

         Address  $00DB19    LC Bank $1
         Error      $0043

or when I try to launch an application (or sometimes just open a window)
the system crashes (no beep... just stops doing anything...)

I've stripped my system down to the bare minimum of inits, da's, fexts and
cdevs, and the problem persists, but when I shift boot, i have no
problem...

...and I have tried reinstalling System 6...

BTW: I do have TaiFUN installed, but it didn't give me any problems
before...


-- Mark Spaeth
-- Sysop, Cleveland Freenet Apple ][ sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jcarson@us.oracle.com (Jim Carson)
Subject: Need help with Vision80 card.
Followup-To: sender
Reply-To: leasgeog@zygochloa.anu.edu.au
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:47:04 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

     I'm posting this for a friend who no longer has access to these news
groups, so please send all reply directly to him, instead of posting them
on the newsgroup.
Thanks.

-- Jim Carson
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

G'Day.

     After many years of successfully using a //c as an all-purpose home
computer, I picked up a second-hand ][e (unenhanced) at a computer auction
(at an amazingly cheap price, too).  However, it contained a number of cards
I am unfamiliar with (my previous contact with ][es was over six years ago,
and they always had Apple cards in them).

The ][e has a VISION-80 card (Rev. 5)  as its 80-column card; coming out of this
card in a lead with an RCA plug (ie typical apple ][e / //c video cable) and
an RCA socket on the end.  I tried putting the RCA plug into the video input
of my monitor and using PR#3 to get into 80-col mode, but it didn't work.
     How do I get this to work?  What does the RCA socket on the end of the
cable do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm not able to access
netnews, so please reply to the e-mail address below.

Thanks.

Steve Leahy
c/- Dept. of Geography, ANU

leasgeog@zygochloa.anu.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: danb@pro-sol.cts.com (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: IIgs upgrade options
Organization: ProLine [pro-sol], Rancho San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:46:33 PST

In <1gjq3cINN6d6@agate.berkeley.edu>
bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho) writes:

>I picked up one of the mags still around for the Apple II and some mail
>order places mention version 3.0 ROMS, and I've poked around on ftp.apple.com
>and have seen gs-os 6.0.  Is this upgrade worth it and should I go to the
>new operating system?

        The 3.0 ROMs you're seeing are certainly not for a GS per se; perhaps
for a RAMFast SCSI Card.  Yes, you should get System 6, but you might want to
visit a local user group and get it for free instead of spending $40 to buy
the whole package.  A ROM 3 GS has more RAM than a ROM 01, and a few more
toolsets built in.  Functionally, under System 6, that's about the only
difference.

>Also, I only have 512k of ram and I've been led on to believe that the last
>gs-specific programs required more ram than that.  What can I afford along
>with this ROM upgrade?

        You absolutely need more RAM.  For under $150, you can bring your
machine up to 4 megs, which is sufficient for most purposes.  If you don't
want to spend that much, I'd be happy to take the machine for what you paid
for it...  B-)

>Thanks for any help anybody can offer me.

        You're welcome.  :-)

>Bing Ho
>bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu   University of California, Berkeley   

--> Dan


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:12:05 GMT

In article <bazyar.724391662@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>
>  And that's too bad, because it wouldn't have been much more difficult
>to do it the right way.  Stopping all tasks while in a modal dialog
>is one example where the cooperative philosophy breaks down when
>applied on top of a non-multitasking system (as MultiFinder was).
>

Except that MultiFinder doesn't stop everything when the front application
is in a modal dialog...

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hyper C GS patch needed...
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:41:11 GMT
Organization: The Internet

It doesn't sound like you got the real docs.

You need hc.system, written by Gary Desrochers to use hyperc
on a IIgs.  Lots of stuff available via ftp on calvin.sfasu.edu.
(except hyperc16... maybe sometime this week for the IIgs)

/*   Andy Werner        hybrid concepts     st2975@siucvmb.siu.edu  *
 *   HyperC enthusiast                 65802/816 support for HyperC *
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