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From: wcidbo@daedalus.corp.sgi.com (Pratik Jain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The Mahashakti Yagna
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:58:55 GMT
Reply-To: pratik@sgi.com
Distribution: ca
Organization: Silicon Graphics I/S

In article <1992Sep9.201554.12054@cco.caltech.edu>, kanga.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep8.233300.7857@odin.corp.sgi.com>  
|> wcidbo@daedalus.corp.sgi.com (Pratik Jain) writes:
|> - In article <lafnfrINN4ig@hto-06.usc.edu>, meggert@hto-06.usc.edu (Mark  
|> Eggert) writes:
|> - |> 
|> - |>   The Hard Light Meditation Center will present the Mahashakti Yagna  
|> -
|> - |> Fire Ceremony for World Peace at the Hindu Temple in Calabasas, CA
|> - |> on October 1-3 1992.
|> - |>   The Mahashakti Yagna is dedicated to The Divine Mother as well as
|> - |> Swami Muktananda Paramahansa on the tenth anniversary of his  
|> mahasamadhi.
|> - |>   Eleven Brahmin priests from around the country will perform the  
|> ritual.
|> - |>   All are invited. For more information call Hard Light at  
|> (213)964-5077
|> - |> or write to Hard Light, 1875 Century Park East, Suite 5273, Los  
|> Angeles, CA
|> - |> 90067.
|> - 
|> - 
|> - I have a question to the poster:
|> - 
|> - Is it sheer coincidence that all 11 priests turned out to be Brahmins or  
|> is it mandatory ? Just curious..
|> - 
|> - Pratik Jain
|> 
|> 
|> The curiosity seems to have an edge of animosity to it. But as an answer,  
|> yes, it is mandatory for the priests in a yagna to be a Brahmin. Note  
|> however that the Mahashakti Yagna is not really all that Vedic in nature. 

Well, it was a curiosity but now, certainly, it is animosity towards such yagnas. Reason being it is racially (or should I use 'castewise') discriminatory.

It is surprising to learn that people still attend such yagnas.

Pratik Jain
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CNN India office?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:11:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Texas

hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE) writes:

>Hi,
>Today I was surprised to see 2 items on Headline News, about India. One
>was on the Indian film industry at 630am,(they interviewed Shyam Benegal, 
>Yash Chopra, and Madhuri Dixit (woke me up alright!))
>The other was on Medha Patkar's efforts in the Narmada Valley campaign.
>Both the items got more than 3 minutes, which was much longer than I expected.

>Now, has an Indian office opened for CNN, and can we expect more coverage
>of news,Indian?

>that would be good..:)


>-harsh deshmane
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu

A New Delhi bureau was opened by CNN sometime back. - Ganesh
From: hamanglo@eng.auburn.edu (Hemant Manglorkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Maharaja Travels __  Need Info
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:23:23 GMT
Reply-To: hamanglo@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering


Need Information on Maharaja Travel Agency, New York, ( source - India Abroad News Paper). Anyone having travel experience with the above agency please contact me immediately, he seems to offer very good deals to India! need to verify his services 

Thanks 
Hemant Manglorkar 
hamanglo@eng.auburn.edu
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Date: 8 Sep 1992 12:21:44 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu


>This question can is as silly as any kid can ask.
>
>This is fundamental fact that Kashmir is a colony of India and PAkistan.
>The people of Kashmir never joined with India or Paksitan.
>
>


You probably  have never heard of the Sheikh Abdullah-Mrs.Gandhi pact
wherein the elected leader of Kashmir accepted the provisions of the
Indian Constitution, including the fact that Kashmir was an inalienable 
part of India and 1/3rd of it continues to be under Pakistani occupation.

Sheikh Abdullah's National Conference party was relected in the next
election by an overwhelming majority. That is as good a referendum as any
you are ever likely to get about the future of Kashmir from it's people.

And talking of elections, the people of Kashmir have participated in the
Indian electoral process and it's elected representatives have sworn by the
Constitution. If that is not an acceptance of Kashmir's accession to India
then I fail to see what is.

Samit
From: vikc@digital.sps.mot.com (Vikrant Chaudhry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nursery Rhymes et al and Parents role in Graduate Students' lives
Keywords: nursery rhymes
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:00:24 GMT
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

In article <1992Sep9.222408.25151@fcom.cc.utah.edu> bbanerje@lark.utah.edu (Alpha Centauri) writes:
>
>   Did YOUR parents send you here ? Just intrigued ... you said you were
>   22 years old.  I was under the false impression that people at that 
>   age decide whether they want to go anywhere or not.. and are not sent
>   by their parents.
>
>   Could you give me some statistics on the percentage on people who come
>   "here" after being "sent" by their parents ?
>
>   BB

	Well ! Answer is rather simple :

	a] if one has gotten an assistantship/bonded labourship/[pl. help
           yourself here]... and/or has been supporting himself/herself then
           the person "came" here.

	b] if your family treasure is still paying for you tution then
           you were "sent" here pal ! 


	Vikrant


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Keywords: the improbality of the task
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:38:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.230346.468@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
> In article <1992Sep12.031730.10591@reed.edu> bsoman@sloth.Reed.Edu (Bakul Arun Soman) writes:
> >
> >
> >IIn article <1992Sep8.191502.8477@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>  
> >mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>  [almost the entire article deleted ] 
> 
> I still believe that a knowledge and appreciation of their past will
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> unite all the indians in a better fashion. Sanskrit will definitely help
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in achieving that unity if given consideration.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

          A more WHOLESOME understanding of the past will be good.
          I believe that Sanskrit has integrated certain small sections
          of population spread out through out India. Sanskrit has an
          extremely rich body of literature, but I do not believe
          the whole of India has to learn Sanskrit in order to appreciate
          it. If I substituted Tamil for Sanskrit would you accept ? 
          Sanskrit also has divided India. It is a fact. The history and 
          heritage of India learned
          from nearly exclusively from Sanskrit sources give a very
          distorted and one sided view of India. Tamil/Dravidian and
          Sanskrit/Aryan were and are the two major sources of influence
          in shaping India's past and I believe will spell the future
          as well. I believe Tamil/Dravidian has more to offer in uniting
          India [ I am not meaning making Tamil a national language which
          I believe is quite impracticable; although, if someone were to
          argue that Sanskrit can be made a National language as you say,
          I would venture to say Tamil can be made with half that effort
          and money spent on Sanskrit; I believe it is quite impracticable
          to make Skt or Tamil as a national language. English is the best
          and fair and above all the most sensible ( wise) choice. 
> 
> >bsoman@reed.edu       
> 
> Mathai
> -- 
> ==================================================================
> 
> Mathai Chundatt            mchundat@kittyhawk@ecn.uoknor.edu
> ==================================================================


      Regards,
      Selva Selvakumar

        

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kanga.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan)
Subject: Re: Carvaka  (was Re: Vedas are not SHIT)
Originator: vidya@piglet
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:27:37 GMT

In article <BuL1Dv.4os@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca  
(m vishnu) writes:
- 
- Carvaka
- ^^^^^^^
- 
- Here is a quote from the Sankara's Sarvadarsanasamgraha on Carvaka 
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- philosophy: (Taken from [1] "Indian Philosophy by Servappillai  
Radhakrishnan
- page 233)
- 

Just to set the record straight, Sarvadarsanasangraha is not a composition  
of Sankara. It is a work of the 13th - 14th centuries A.D. and is  
popularly attributed to one Madhava, one of the ministers of the First  
Dynasty of the Vijayanagar Empire. Sankara lived in the 7th-8th century  
A.D.. Those research scholars who attribute it to Sankara are wrong  
because the work takes pains to address the objections of Ramanuja  
(Vishistadvaita) and Madhva (Dvaita) to Advaita philosophy. Thus, it is  
definitely at least contemporary to Madhva if not later than him. 

S.Vidyasankar  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 21:56:00 GMT

sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad) writes:

>Funny your poem is written in Urdu (A Deccani language) or Hindustani. 
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Urdu is north Indian language.


 Why not
>in that lovely Kashmiri language (it really is wonderful to listen to, even if you 

Urdu is the language of Education System in Kashmir.

>don't understand a word -- I've heard GR Santhokh recite some of his poems, the very
>cadence is musical).  Or is your poem "For `Kashmir for Kashmiris'" for non-Kashmiris?


A message for Non-KAshmiris that KAshmir is for Kashmiris.




This poem will appear everytime when there is any article about
KAshmir appears on the net.

Bye
Adil
From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Multiple choice
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:29:40 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep3.191141.16397@research.nj.nec.com>, rsd@ccrl.nj.nec.com (Rajiv Dighe) writes:
> 
> 			Mother(?) India
> 
> 	    The latest census results are in
> 	    The health minister needs an Anacin
> 
> 	    Every sixth homo sapien
> 	    is now officially an Indian
> 
> 	    But the news doesnt get any better
> 	    The male of the species is the pacesetter 
> 
> 	    For every 100 of the males
> 	    we now have 93 females
> 
> 	    Is that Nature's freak ?
> 	    A genetic imbalance streak?
> 
> 	    No! This one is no accident
> 	    a result of society's sick bent
> 
> 	    Amniocentesis to predict the sex
> 	    Abort the baby if it is a double X
> 
> 	    7999 out of 8000 foetuses aborted
> 	    were females systematically sorted
> 
> 	    So Mother, where did we go wrong ?
> 	    Have we turned a blind eye to you all along ?
> 
> 	    We sang paeans to your feminine grace
> 	    proudly talked of your maternal ways
> 
> 	    Motherhood raised to the highest glory
> 	    Woman's strength and compassion our proud story
> 
> 	    We swore by our mother's milk
> 	    risked life and limb to protect our ilk
> 
> 	    And yet we commit systematic mayhem
> 	    due to genetic dictates - what a shame !!
> 
> 	    So who is shaping our wants
> 	    who is really wearing the pants ?
> 
> 	    Where did we form these grotesque needs ?
> 	    What makes us decide what we want to breed ?
> 
> 	    Our history is replete with female figures
> 	    each one makes us proud, makes us feel bigger
> 
> 	    Why havent we learned from our past
> 	    Our boat is still sailing because of the female mast
> 
> 	    And lets not blame the poor and the uneducated
> 	    Determining the sex of a baby is a middle-class aid
> 
> 	    Shouldnt we at least ask the little baby
> 	    if she would like to live, maybe ?
> 
> 	    Tell her that you cannot afford the dowry
> 	    Which is the reason you are ending her misery
> 
> 	    She may give you a gentle smile
> 	    Tell you not to worry for a while
> 
> 	    Tell you that she does not want to live
> 	    just to get married and she does believe 
> 
> 	    That she was here to lead her life
> 	    and not just be somebody's wife
> 
> 	    Mother of mine, do you silently grieve
> 	    When you see the state of the Indian Eve ?
> 							Rajiv Dighe
> 							4/1/91

Very well done indeed. For this one you deserve praise,
perhaps even an Oscar ...


Alok
From: ss51@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Sundaram Sridharan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: travel companion
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:41:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University


I am looking for someone to accompany my mother (preferably a Tamilian) on
her trip back to Bombay from New York in late September (this month).
Please EMail me
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Balasundaram)
Subject: Tamil Eelam tomatous/salvation for ranjith
Followup-To: m 
Keywords: heia Norge!
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:45:45 GMT

i have been groups like ....no that
very poor.

anyway
Bye
Adil


Boo!
From: meggert@hto-06.usc.edu (Mark Eggert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: The Mahashakti Yagna
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:06:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: hto-06.usc.edu
Keywords: Yagna

  The Hard Light Meditation Center will present the Mahashakti Yagna -
Fire Ceremony for World Peace at the Hindu Temple in Calabasas, CA
on October 1-3 1992.
  The Mahashakti Yagna is dedicated to The Divine Mother as well as
Swami Muktananda Paramahansa on the tenth anniversary of his mahasamadhi.
  Eleven Brahmin priests from around the country will perform the ritual.
  All are invited. For more information call Hard Light at (213)964-5077
or write to Hard Light, 1875 Century Park East, Suite 5273, Los Angeles, CA
90067.
From: deepak@konark.njit.edu (Deepak Kakadasam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Speeding Ticket
Keywords: Speeding
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:44:48 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep11.175937.28678@ennews.eas.asu.edu> vkrishna@cimnext1.cim.eas.asu.edu (Vinu K. Krishnamurthy) writes:
>
>
>My friend from Arizona got a speeding ticket in California State. 
>Can he attend a class and thereby maintain his record clean.
Congratulations. Welcome to the club.

>Should he attend the court
Once you have points, thats it. No classes can help you keep a clean
record.

>Can he plead not guilty
He does not have to attend court. He just has to mail the ticket along
with the fine before the due date/court date or you may have to pay a
fine for being late about payment.
>
>Any Suggestions will be helpfull



--
VLSI:=> "Getting High On Low Voltage"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: KASHMIR CAMPAIGN ( AKHAND BHARAT )
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:34:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep09.174434.18567@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>
>   It is only the social attitude of these people which is a pain. As such,
>   I'm a shaivite. How am I concerned with what my neighbour practices in his
>   house whether Vaishnavism or Islam?
>
>   But look at the following :
>   - Their practices are all totally opposite to Indian practices
>     They would like to eat COW, which is a sacred animal in Indian society.
>     (Does COW eating have any religious sanctity, religious purpose
>      to a MUSLIM?)
>
While not demeriting your other points, I think the above point is 
extremely narrow minded and a petty reason for your hatred. Most 
of the Hindus here gladly chomp on the pepporoni pizzas and other 
beef products. They would also do the same if it was made available 
to them when they visit India. If the muslims are guilty of wishing 
to eat cows, then so are the non-veg Indian population. 

regards,
--   
   ______ ______ ______ ______ __  |\/\/\/|
    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
_____/ _____/ __/   __/ __/ ______/ | \___|  
E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Date: 8 Sep 1992 12:38:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

>JKLF is secular and it stands for the majority of KAshmiris' wish.
>If Kashmiris ask to join Pakistan or India or Soverigne state.
>


Try selling that to the US state Department which lists the JKLF as a 
terrorist organisation along with such old "favourites" as the Basque
organisation in Spain, the IRA, the PLO, the Japanese Red Army etc.

I guess kidnapping and killing innocent civilians (from the minority community
in the valley does not impinge on your definition of "secular".  What the heck,
even the Nazi's could apply for membership to this "secular" club.

Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bibek@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bibek Ghosh)
Subject: AIRLINE TICKET FOR SALE (SFO ===> NEWARK, NJ)
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Distribution: soc.culture.india
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:23:52 GMT

********************************************************************************




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		Continental Fl# 254, 9/20/92

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From: msuvarna@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TESTING..1-2-3...TESTING
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:17:29 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

hi there

this is  a test only so please ignore.

have a nice day

manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 03:18:22 GMT

banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:


>The question is not as simple as letting Kashmir go. Pakistan has occupied
>a third of Kashmir for the last 40 years. If there is to be a plebiscite, it
>must be held only after Pakistan vaccates Occupied Kashmir. The chances of that
>happening are less than one in a million.

Why does only Pakistan withdraw the army?
Why not India, also?
Both have occuppied Kashmir and both of them should withdraw their army.
Call U.N. forces and take Plebiscit.

>More importantly any referendum will be meaningful only when the thousands
>of families (predominantly Hindu) who have been driven out of their homes
>are allowed to return and vote. Creating a reign a terror whereby most
>minorities choose to leave the valley and then calling for a plebiscite
>(assuming of course that the overwhelming Muslim majority will vote to
>seceede, which they might not) seems preposterous.

Hindu and all other minority which has flee Kashmir Valley for any reasons
(I used any reasons term because some Hindus have left Kashmir because of
terror while some have left because of uncertainty. Many Muslims have also
left the Valley.) must go to Kashmir before the Plebiscit.
But Minorities in the Valley makes only 4% of total population.



Bye
Adil


>Samit
From: ta-vg11@muddnext28.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why the world should be grateful to the USA!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:49:21 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep9.202310.18290@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
crick@lcmv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
> While I agree with the sentimnets expressed by Tim, let's refrain from 
> immediately labelling him as a "clone" of this person or that, and let  
him
> establish his own identity.  
> 
> Comparing anyone else to me would be like comparing saccharin to sugar, 
> decaf to coffee, and astroturf to grass (BTW are there any turfed hockey
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> fields in India?)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Ed "the real thing" Crick


Ed you definitely know how to start a war on the net. Your understanding  
of the scian psyche is really good. What you use it for is a different  
matter altoghether.
Vikas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: news@Ugle.Unit.NO (Ram Lakhan)
Subject: wearing
Followup-To: m
Keywords: don't belive me,alginat,far far,far,away,far away,far far away
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 17:02:38 GMT

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