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In rec.music.synth, milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose) writes:

> In article <17vrndINN37t@early-bird.think.com>, Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
> > 1. Musician's Friend 800-776-5173
> > These guys are indeed friendly. They have a catalog with a rather large
> > selection of keyboardists, guitar and bass players. Decent prices.
> 
> It's nice that Musician's Friend sends out lots of glitzy catalogs,
> but be careful...their prices can be a little out of wack sometimes.
> Actually, I think it's good that they send out catalogs, because they're
> useful for local price shopping first, before going the mail order route.
> 
> [ Stuff deleted ]
> 
> Later that afternoon, I called American Musical Supply, which is another
> mail order place that sends out catalogs.  The MSB+ wasn't in the catalog,
> but all the other J.L.Cooper things are.  I asked their price, and it was
> $259.  I have no idea why it was a full $100 less than Musician's Friend,
> but AMS didn't have them in stock.  They said a new shipment was due in
> a couple of weeks, and they'd send it then.  I figured maybe they would just
> do one of those stall tricks, and hold onto my $$$ while they dicked around
> about delivery dates and such, but I ordered the midi patch bay anyway.
> It arrived on my doorstep a week and a half later.
> 
> So, this is just one experience with AMS, so I don't know if they have a
> solid reputation...I'll certainly give them another try sometime.
> 

I've bought equipment from American Musicial Supply and generally found
their prices to be the lowest I could find. Occasionally I've run into
items *out of stock* but they all shipped in a few weeks max. 
No complaints here.

Regards,
Dave            (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com)

> Guy Klose
> milo@mvuxi.att.com
From: peishuh@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Pei-Shuh F Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: YAMAHA QY-10 palmtop keyboard/sequencer
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:07:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I have got an extra QY-10 that I bought only few months.This is
open for trade, comes with manual, AC adaptor.
Please email what you have got, musical, computer, MIDI
stuff .... Thanks.

	Percy
peishuh@ecn.purdue.edu
(317) 743-1734

P.S. If you have got a k1-r, that will be a nice match, we can
have even trade.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sunny Singh or Airpreet)
Subject: WANTED: EPS1 w/4x mem.
Summary: wanted used eps1 
Originator: airpreet@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 07:59:33 GMT

hi..
	looking for a used eps1 with 4x mem exp.

sunny
.

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:21:26 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Which keyboard for Live work?...
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>From: "Terry A Glatz" <glatz@EDU.UVM.EMILY>
>Subject:      Re: Which keyboard for Live work?...
>
>Roland products. I have a Korg Wavestation A/D rack mod. I have heard the Korg
>01W/FD and the 01W. If you are using a computer get the 01W. The FD is the same
>synth but a floppy is installed for storing samples. A computer is the best
				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>bet!
>

This is the second time I have seen people claiming that the 01/W has RAM
for samples (rather indirectly here, but).

I'm pretty sure it has no sample RAM whatsoever (correct me if I'm wrong tho').

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: arpraym@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Ph #'s for Music. Friends & Amer. Music Supply
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:53:31 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Would someone please post or mail to me the address, (and more importantly the
phone number), of Musician's Friend, and American Music Supply?

I apologise if this as alreeady been posted somewhere along in the thread on
mail-order. I didn't see it.

Assisstance is greatly appreciated.

Ray MacNeil
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: d88-jwa@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: MIDI Equipment For Sale
Originator: d88-jwa@cyklop.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:41:47 GMT

> jjyyjj@mixcom.com (Thomas Mueller) writes:

   E-Mu Emax II sampler            $1850
   ("Turbo" model with 2 MB RAM, stereo sampling.)

Don't you get a K2000, new, for that price?

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From: brickle@idacrd.UUCP (Frank Brickle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Proteus 1/2/3
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:38:08 GMT
Organization: idacrd, princeton, nj

From article <9209111912.AA19679@ktxs8.ktxnet>, by kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET (Peter Uchytil):
> 
> I'm curious, what do Proteus owners recommend, getting a Pro/1 w/ orchestral
> expander, or a Pro/2?  Oh, obviously I want the orchestral sounds (the SQ2's
> strings aren't *bad*, but if I do much at all with 'em, there goes all my
> polyphony). I guess my thinking is, if I'm sort of a pop-orchestral kind of
> guy, am I going overkill with the Pro/2?  Will the Pro/1 w/ expansion give
> me enough of the "bread & butter" sounds?

I have both. Got the /2 first, then the /1 about 9 months later. *Love* them
both. (Don't miss the filters at all!) The orchestral stuff on the /1
sounds to me like "synth-sounding-like-orchestral-instruments", while the
/2 orchestral instruments are really very convincing within their limits.
About the only thing I really miss in the /2 is pizz in the solo strings.
From: foster@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Kirk Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Synths for sale
Keywords: DX7,SY22
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:08:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Keyboards for sale:

	DX7 w/ E! in mint condition (Honest!)
	have manuals for DX and E!
	TX7 expander also available             $500  ($600 w/ TX7)


	SY22 w/ 1 ram card
	also in excellent cond.                 $650

I won't bore the net with specs. If you don't know what these are,
please email. I don't own hardcases for these so shipping will involve
the usual crap. We'll work it out.

Email responses are preferred.

Home phone (317) 743-4957
 (near Indianapolis - call at reasonable hours PLEASE)

Kirk
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: velhart@epas.utoronto.ca (Nicholas Velharticky)
Subject: Cakewalk Pro/Midiator-103 Problem
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Distribution: all
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:22:39 GMT
Followup-To: velhart@epas.utoronto.ca


I have a problem with Cakewalk Pro 4.0, my Midiator-103, and/or my
Roland U-20.

Upon loading up Cakewalk, the MIDI local on the U-20 is turned off (as
per usual), but then I cannot get any sound from the keyboard.  I can
still load songs and play them back on the U-20, but I cannot play the
U-20 from the keyboard without setting the MIDI local back on again.
Cakewalk is configured on my computer for auto MIDI thru mode, so it
should play back on the channel of the currently selected track,
right?  What's the deal here?

Do MIDI cables make any difference in the performance of Cakewalk with
the Midiator-103?  I use the split 3-way cable that Key Electronics
sent me, but would it work as well with normal cables (assuming that I
didn't want to use multiple ports)?

I would appreciate any advice that any Cakewalk or Midiator users out
there could give me.  Please respond directly to velhart@epas.utoronto.ca.
Thanks in advance.


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From: jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com (Jerry Morrow)
Subject: What are some quality MIDI footpedals? (like organ footpedals, not BOSS)
Organization: secure_comm
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:12:36 GMT
Followup-To: jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com
Summary: need names of organ-like MIDI OUT footpedals
Keywords: footpedals

HI, 

I'd like to control my synths/sequencer from a footpedal
so I can play bass instead (like Geddy Lee).  Who makes
MIDI footpedals?  I'd like to start/stop short sequences
or samples depending on what note I hit, or play chords 
(chords stored in the keyboard's memory).  There's just 
something about a sequencer running amuck throughout a 
whole song that irks me.  Imagine how the drummer feels. :)

I don't see many organ-like footpedals in music stores,
as people have begun to rely on sequencers to play an
extra part.
                                                     
Jerry Morrow
Motorola, Inc.
jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com





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From: rand@muttley.ucsd.edu (Rand Steiger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,ucsd.buy+sell,sdnet.forsale
Subject: Midi Gear For Sale
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:18:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Music, UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: muttley.ucsd.edu

Midi Gear For Sale

Yamaha TX81Z FM Tone Generator

Roland TR505 Rhythm Composer (Drum Machine)

JL Cooper PPS-1 version three Midi/SMPTE Time Code generator/reader

Digital Music Corp. MX-8 Midi Patchbay / Processor (8x6)


write or call if you are interested:

Rand Steiger
rand@ucsd.edu
619-943-0170
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DR-660
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:58:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: UNHH.716399907.780000.D_NIBBY


$375 is the best mail-order price I've been able to come up with for
the Boss DR-660 drum machine. Is anyone selling it new for cheaper?
Or is anyone selling a used one? This machine seems to be a good buy.
It's got 200+ (I think...) samples, and unlike the Alesis SR-16, a lot of
them are actually *useful* for house and techno. The DR-660 has a
*complete* TR-808 kit! Plus, I'm pretty sure it's got the TR-909 sounds as
well. I'm going to try and demo one again today, and really spend some time
with it. My question is... Is there a better buy for approximately the same
$$$? The DR-660, to my knowledge, doesn't accept cards, thus isn't expandable.

  What I still don't understand is, why would *anyone* spend $700-$800 on
an R8. Jeesh... Seems as if one is better off buying a 16-bit sampler/synth
and doing all the drum work on it. I understand you can buy cards for the
R8 but hell... you can buy all the sample discs you want for a sampler.
What gives w/the high price tag of the R8???

   What is the R5 like? Not expandable, eh? What types of samples does it
have? (techno?) How much is one new/used? Is it any where near as good as
the DR-660? (for those who've used both) I'm not interested in the
'human rhythm (sp)' crap. That's useless to me.

  Thanks,

      Dana
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From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Roland DJ70 sampler workstation
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>From: metlay <metlay@EDU.PITT.PHYAST>
>Subject:      Re: Roland DJ70 sampler workstation
>

>The base machine, to answer "Mars's" query, goes for a hair over $2000
>here in Pittsburgh, but I have no doubt that it could be had elsewhere
>for somewhat less than that, perhaps $1800 or so. Memory expansions are

Or, it might be $3500 in Manchester.

[discussion on how to make the wheel send MIDI]

>faster and slower in both directions depending on platter speed. The wheel
>has no stop position or detent, and spins freely in either direction, making
>position-based MIDI transmission an iffy prospect. We decided that recording
>

Why? Assign one 14-bit control change as "position", and when that control
change value is received compare it to the last stored value and generate
direction and speed internally before scratching the sample. Time of last
change would need to be stored as well.

Only problem
I can see is that the very first "position" value received could be very
different from the one stored in the receiving DJ70. It would be possible
that any reset condition (turning the machine on, MIDI Start/Stop/All notes
off, cessation/initiation of Active Sensing) would clear the "position"
counter in the DJ70, and the first value received after that would only be
used to initialise this counter, rather than generate the scratch effect.
Tho' I bet that initialising time of last scratch as Jan 1. 1970 would
avoid the problem of ignoring the first scratch wheel position value.

I never got to touch the machine, there was a queue, but people ahead of me
and a review I read in a UK magazine (Sound on Sound OR Music Technology)
mentioned that the scratch wheel had a sluggish response, and was a good
idea, but not such a good implementation.

But the machine did look more fun than a barrel of monkeys. I particularly
liked the buttons on the front that you could put a looped sample (e.g. groove)
on, hit the button, and it would loop until you hit the button again, while
you played whatever you wanted to from the keyboard. I didn't get the chance
to see how easy it would be to have several grooves going at once from these
buttons.

Cheers,

Ross-c
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From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Roland DJ70 sampler workstation
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:06:03 GMT

> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

   Oh, the scratch wheel? It's brill. Pure dead brill.

      That's gotta sound like crap, right!?!?!?

   No, it sounds great.

Uh, might I differ?

Well, it's sorta nifty, and better than the "flipping" wheel of
a typical DJ CD player. But an SL-P 1200 mkII it ain't.

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From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:35:53 GMT
Subject: Re: MIDI/SE-30
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

Er, the click function doesn't work* in Performer with certain versions of
the system.  I *think* it's anything above, say, 6.0.4.  I know it
doesn't work in system 7.  (Then again, my K1r makes a great metronome.  :-)

* work: it won't use the internal speaker.  It will do the flash, and
will click over MIDI just fine, but no speaker.

Pete Brooks

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From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Any expansions/modifications for Roland JP-8???
Keywords: expansions, modifications, Roland JP-8
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
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Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:32:13 GMT

Two days ago I purchased an used Roland Jupiter 8 (JP-8) synth.

Are there any expansions/modifications availiable for this gear??
Like newer software (e.g. for variable splitpoint), smart midi-interfaces
providing sys-ex functionality or memory expansions etc.

Thanks a lot!
/m

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From: ricard@axis.se (Ricard Wolf)
Subject: Re: Info wanted on Super Jupiter/JX10
Organization: Axis Communications AB, Lund Sweden
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:57:31 GMT

In article <NICK.92Sep10124502@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
>In article <1992Sep09.205104.14519@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>   I beleive the JX10 was basically 2 JX8P's in one box.
>
>I've never grasped whether the JX-10 and Super-JX were different machines.
>The Super-JX and MKS-70 are DCO/VCF/VCA.
>
>Nick.

The JX-10 is identical to the Super-JX. I even think both names
appeared on the front panel. Along with the JX-8, great machines, although
personally I find them quite ugly... 

I always thought the MKS-70 was a modern-day rackmount version of the
Jupiter-8, no?

/Ricard
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From: jjyyjj@mixcom.com (Thomas Mueller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: MIDI Equipment For Sale
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:14:59 GMT
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

None of the items listed below were ever used outside my studio, with the
exception of the Siel, which was bought used.  Everything else was bought
new.
 
Selling the following:
 
Alesis D4 Drum machine          $300
 
E-Mu Emax II sampler            $1850
("Turbo" model with 2 MB RAM, stereo sampling.)
 
Fostex X-26 4-track tape        $250
 
Siel DK600 Analog synth         $250
 
Don't want to bore the net with details on units.
Call me at (414) 547-4148 or respond via e-mail for specifics.

-- 
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I used to be gibsonlp@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dean Herman).  Can you say "hacker?"
I still maintain the Skinny Puppy samples list.  Send me e-mail for a copy.
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From: aep@icd.ab.com (Alexander E. Pensky)
Subject: Opinions on KS-32 ?
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co., Highland Heights, OH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:54:26 GMT


Would anyone care to offer thoughts or opinions on the Ensoniq KS-32
workstation (the one with the 76-key weighted keyboard)?

Does this have the same synth engine as the SQ-1, SQ-2, SQ-R?
If not, is it a stripped-down model, or just a newer model?

(I know, I know, the Ensoniq dealer is supposed to answer these questions,
but I've received conflicting answers, and all the dealers seem to be "out"
of literature on the KS-32.)

If the synth portion is essentially the same as the SQ series, how would
you rate this instrument's sounds, programmability, and MIDI capabilities
for the following purposes:
	- Home studio use only
	- Performing classical piano music (use instead of digital piano)
	- Composing, using mostly orchestra sounds
	- No use for dance music ==> quality of drum kits unimportant
	
versus rack-mount synths in the same price class ($700-1000), e.g.
	- Korg M3r
	- Roland JV-880 (? i.e. rack-mount JV-80)
	- Others I haven't thought of

Any comments welcome.  Post or email.

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Pensky    	(aep@icd.ab.com)		         (216)646-5211
 Allen-Bradley Company             747 Alpha Drive, Highland Heights, OH 44143
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From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:06:17 GMT
Subject: Re: (none)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

>/ hpcc01:rec.music.synth / ISB202CLOW@redgum.qut.edu.au (The Bard) /  7:>2 am  Sep  8, 1992 /
>
>What is OMS?
Opcode Music System.  Bundled  with Opcode's other products such as
Vision (sequencer) and Galaxy (librarian, with or without editors).
It's kind of a super-MIDI manager, but also covers things like
inter-application communication (for those apps that support it..)
and it understands your rig, including things like MTPs, switchers,
synths in numbers >> 1, etc.
>What is Galaxy?
See above.
>Why is this such an excellant environment?  (Well almost as Nick said.)
I don't use it near as much as Nick does, but with Galaxy, it's nice to
click on a patch for my Kurz 1200 and know that the MX-8 switcher
already set up a patch to have the Mac talk to the Kurz directly.  If
I click on another synth, the appropriate command goes in.  It takes a
lot of the pain out of a semi-complicated rig.  For *really* complicated
ones, like Nick's, it makes it *possible* to deal with it.

In a better environment, all apps would support something as good as
OMS, so you could be playing something (sequenced/live/some of each) with
one hand, and with the other, switch to Galaxy and tweak patches.  You
run out of hands this way, but you *can* do it...

Unfortunately, MOTU doesn't quite believe in OMS.  I'm not so sure they
believe in Apple's MIDI manager.  I usually ran into trouble when I
tried to use it with Performer 3.6.4.

Pete Brooks
>
From: gt3281c@prism.gatech.EDU (TABLER,JOHN ALEXANDER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Help!  Need number for Fender.
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:23:09 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

1-800-488-1818
Fender Musical Instruments
7975 North Hayden Road
Scottsville Az. 85258
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:30:35 PDT
From:         Peter Uchytil <kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Cakewalk for Windows Question
Comments: To: uunet!AMERICAN.EDU!SYNTH-L@uunet.UU.NET

>
> I played around with the Cakewalk demo but couldn't find a way to split
> tracks based on the highest or lowest note of a chord in the track.  If
> this can't be done in Cakewalk is there some other piece of software
> that can do this, like Master Trax or Finale?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Haeffele
> jjh@col.hp.com
>

I believe this can be done with a CAL script.  I'm not 100% sure because
I haven't done any CAL programming yet, but this seemed like the sort of
thing that CAL would be good at.  Please don't flame me too much if this
is not the case.

Pete
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:10:16 CST
From:         "Rod L." <WEBERLOI@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Midi Gear For Sale
              7 Sep 1992 19:18:22 GMT from <rand@MUTTLEY.UCSD.EDU>

Any prices for your gear??  I'm always looking...
                                                  Rod l.
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From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Re: Any expansions/modifications for Roland JP-8???
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:10:09 GMT

trog@midiline.la.ca.us (Ralph Stempel) writes:
:    The guy I talked to claimed it was very fast. As you may know, the 
: Roland interface was slow and very limited in function. (Not to mention 
: expensive) There are also no doubt other features I can't remember off 
: the top of my head.
:    Encore is in Danville CA, at (415) 820-7551. I have no connection with 
: them, other than being an almost certain future customer.

Thanks!
I'm allready in contact with them!

/m

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