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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:18:19 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Nov23.092810.19942@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
> Played on Saturday 21st November
> 
> Hertz  1  Rangers  1
> 
> Baird 62  McCoist 24 (32nd of the season)
> 
> Att. 20,831
> 
> It must have been the wettest game I've ever stood at. The rain was bad
> enough but the snaw was unbearable, and it's only November! With McCall
> rested and Gough still out, Trevor Steven returned to get some match practice


	At least Parkheid's got  a roof and you dont get soaked to the skin,
except for wet feet of course.  Tynecastle is one of these grounds  where
absolutley no consideration is given to spectators.   It's alright for 
Mercer and his pals  to sit in the comfort of box and blab on about
how many internationalists there are in the Hearts  team, when the 
reality is that Tynecastle (and most Scottish grounds) are a disgrace. 
All these years of raking in money from Rangers and Celtic supporters
and they still can't even put a roof over the terracing and provide basic
facilities like toilets and catering.  They should forget about plans
for super stadia and get Tynecastle into decent shape.  Hearts had
to sell their "best player" last summer just to survive so they can
forget about  spending 25M on a new stadium ! The subject of their "best
player" leads me nicely into my next comment.......

> look on this as a point dropped as Hertz are crap. David Robertson was
          > and big Vidal played brilliantly considering he had to
 
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


	Were  you drinking in the pub with Gerry before the game ???


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From: cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Just laughing at England
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:44:03 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

As an English fan and also an England fan I would like to say that I and
many friends all think that to much is expected of England too often. The
pressure to do well with an average team can push a decent manager - G.T.
into making rubbish decisions. If he makes a decision he thinks is right but
some bod at the Sun or where ever disagress, then automatically it is written
up as if the whole country disagrees.

After all, who is the real football expert  - the England manager or some
journalist?
How about giving selected journalists control for some of our friendlies to
see how well they do ? Any comments........
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From: jeberg@jusit.uio.no (Jan Erling Berg)
Subject: England 4-Turkey 0
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: uio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:40:56 GMT

England - Turkey 4-0
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From: J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross)
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Subject: Re: CSKA "home" games
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:30:06 +0000







Subject: Re: CSKA "Home" Games
From: msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD)
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
In article <Bxt9M6.MKn@cs.vu.nl> msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban MSD):

>J.M.Ross (J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk) wrote:
>:
>: Does anyone know why UEFA won't allow CSKA to play their home EC1 group
>: matches in Moscow? Is there any precedence for this?
>The rescheduling was due to the climate in Moscow in the Winter. It's going to
>be too cold to play soccer.

I heard that too. UEFA 3rd round matches have been played in Moscow in
November/December before and hasn't it warmed up by March/April? Surely its
no colder than in the Scandanavian countries?

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From: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daniel Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Spurs Vs Gunners
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:21:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Nov23.104142.26784@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore) writes:

>>One of my mates will be travelling to UK and will be arriving on the
>>same day of the match. Could anyone in UK please advise if he would be able to 
>>get tickets on that day for the Spurs Vs Gunners match?
>
>The match is all-ticket, and er, sensitive, so no tickets will be on
>sale by either club on the day. His best bet is to take lots of
>'spare' cash, and talk to one of the men muttering 'tickets, tickets' out
>of the corner of their mouthes.
>
>If I were him I wouldnt expect to pay less than 20 stg for a standing
>ticket.

The only standing sections left in the ground are a small section for
season-ticket holders and a largish section for members - neither can
be used without the appropriate card and voucher books. That means you
have to sit to watch the match (including all away fans) so you're
forced to pay more (even if you weren't paying outrageous rates to
touts). The East stand tickets are normally cheaper but you have to
watch out for restricted views from behind the pillars. There are
normally touts on the High Road between WHL (the road, that is) and
Paxton Road.

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From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: Topical comments (Gerry's on the drink)
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:31:23 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:


>Disposal is the operative word here and reminds one of Tony ICan'tScoreIno
>and in the same goal scoring mould, Stuart Slater. I think by your last
>sentence there you are resigning yourself to a long time in the wilderness.
>Brady hasn't got much time left, there's a game against Partick Thistle FC
>coming up.

Rangers too have a game against Thistle coming up soon, before they beat 
Celtic. (Tickets on sale this morning).  I think we will soon see Rangers
losing a few more points. Celtic started slipping when the Jags beat them 
at home, soon it Rangers' turn :-)
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Subject: Re: 2nd Division Internationals
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:03:49 +0000







In article <1992Nov18.082813.3477@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u1051652@csdvax.csd.un

sw.edu.au writes:

>Interesting Question:
>
>How many countries have had players in the 2nd division capped at
>international level (While they were playing in the second division) ?
>And which players were they (and what clubs were they playing for at
>the time) ?
>The only example I can think of would be Steve Bull for England.
>(Could someone mail me his Wolves stats ? A friend of mine in England
>said he was "bloody smashin'").
>

England have capped at least a dozen Third Division players since the
3rd Division was introduced in 1920, most recently Steve Bull and probably
most notably Tommy Lawton who moved to Third Division Notts County when he
was an England regular in the early 50's.

I have strong suspicions that Wales or Northern Ireland have even capped
a couple of Fourth Division players.

I can't think of any examples of Scottish caps from the lower Scottish
division (although of course there have been a several from the English 2nd
Division), does anyone know of any?

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From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: CSKA vs Rangers
Date: 17 Nov 1992 15:41:37 -0600
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vlad says:

> Afterall, UEFA is
> the most fair and objective organization in th eWorld! :-)

Now you also understand, how stupid, shitty and discriminative UEFA (as well as
FIFA) is ! When Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Georgians, Serbs, Croats, Slovenes,
Israelis were discriminated, only I understood it. Now they started to make
Russians suffer, too... they probably don't like the fact that Russia is the
best country in EuroCups now (see my and Martin's tables).

Not only as an ex-Soviet, but also as a football fan, I protest !!!

Down with UEFA, FIFA and all other fools !!!
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From: kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius)
Subject: offsides question on goal kick
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:58:06 GMT

A linesman in our game the other day told me that a team could NOT
be offsides on a goal kick.  I was under the impression that you
could be offsides on any kick, and a goal kick is a direct kick, if
I remember correctly.  About half our team thought one way and about
half the other way.  Does any one out there know the specific FIFA
rule regarding this play and when it was changed if it was, in fact,
changed?

Thanks,
--
Kevin Schnitzius
kschnitzius@encore.com
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: OTHER THINK I'M SHIT BUT NOT MY HERO
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:29:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1992Nov17.104832.13318@phillip.edu.au> t8914229@phillip.edu.au writes:
|yesterday (16/11), the greatest thing happened to me....
|           [expletives deleted]

C'mon Denise, we've all been waiting for your assessment of the Spartak
performance - and is this really the best you can come up with?! ;->

And I think we've all got our ideas on the greatest thing that could
happen to you................best suggestion wins a one-way ticket to
visit the woman (sic) (or should that be sick) herself!

gordon
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From: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Subject: Re: World Cup Scores Please....
Reply-To: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:13:23 GMT

In article <Bxx189.K68@mach1.wlu.ca>, john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall
Johnson u) writes:
|>In article <1992Nov17.030255.10677@oz.plymouth.edu>
m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) writes:
|>>I missed the score for this match, does anyone have the score?
|>>
|>>15-nov   Canada - Bermuda
|>
|>Canada 4	Bermuda	2
|>
|>Alex Bunbury snared a hattrick and Mitchell got the other.
|>
|>Ciao
|>
|>Niall Johnson,
|>Dept. of Geography,
|>Wilfrid Laurier University.
|>     john7552@mach1.wlu.ca

 Actually, Mitchell set up BunBury's goals but he didn't score the
 forth one. It was some guy called Aunger (or something like that).
 It was a good goal too!
               
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From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:47:05 GMT
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In article <Uf12IWW00iUxQ6B1tf@andrew.cmu.edu> Andy Yin Meau <am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Deos anyone know when Manchester United are playing Everton, or did they
>play each other already?

They've already played each other twice. Due to the weird machinations of
the Leagues fixture computer, the fixtures on Aug 18/19 were repeated less
than a month later on Sep 12/13/14.

I seem to remember Everton winning at Old Trafford (3-1?), but I'm sure
Harinderpal can come up with the full results.

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From: MOORES@BNR.CA (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: Cloughie for England Manager?
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.120147.26582@cs.nott.ac.uk>,
pcxmrp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M.Powell) wrote:

> 	Also why does Clough keep selling, rebuying and reselling players?

I ask myself the same question of Souness.

> Steve Hodge, doing very well at Leeds, 

NOT !!


> 
> 	So do you want this man running the national team ? I certainly do not!

Yes, I think the man is the best available and has earned his right to be
given the opportunity. We are three months into his worst season, he has
spent ~>20 years building quality, successfull and attractive sides,
(Surely, as a WHUFC supporter, you can appreciate that). Graham Taylor is
not in the same class.

Who is your choice Matt ??

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From: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Subject: Re: Foul Video
Keywords: Vinny Jones Foul Video fine
Reply-To: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:26:31 GMT

In article <BxxzFp.6t3@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>
kinsler@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Paul Kinsler) writes:

>I just read in the paper that Vinny Jones has been fined 
>$A44000 (stg 20000? ) for appearing in that video of
>soccer fouls. The largest player fine ever, apparently.

Anyone know where you can buy this video from? Wouldn't mind seeing it
meself.

Vinny
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David)
Subject: Cyprus - 8th week - corrections
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:18:18 GMT

The other games were:

POL 0 APOLLWN 1
OLYMPIAKOS 1 OMONOIA 2


                     CYPRUS SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP  11/22/92
                     --------------------------------------


                TEAM       GAMES  PNTS      W   DR  D    GF   GA
           1   SALAMINA      8     22       7   1   0    17   4
           2   OMONOIA       8     17       5   2   1    32  12
           3   APOLLWN       8     17       5   2   1    22  11
           4   APOEL         8     15       4   3   1    17   8
           5   AXNA          8     15       5   0   3    16  10
           6   ANORTHOSIS    8     13       4   1   3    11  12
           7   ARIS          8     10       3   1   4    14  21
           8   ENWSIS        8     10       3   1   4    12  18
           9   AEL           8      9       3   0   5    15  15
          10   OLYMPIAKOS    8      9       3   0   5     7  18
          11   EPA           8      8       2   2   4     9  14
          12   EUAGORAS      8      7       2   1   5    10  17
          13   POL           8      4       0   4   4     8  13
          14   APOP          8      3       1   0   7     5  22


Theodoros
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ENGLAND GO IN SEARCH OF GOALS AGAINST TURKEY
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:29:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov19.002919.1581
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov19.000239.15841@bcrka451.bnr.ca> (Richard Moores) writes:
>
>>     Captain Stuart Pearce said: "There are no whipping boys
>> in international football these days.
>
>Q) Why are we subjected to the identical pre-game excuse every time we
>(England) are playing teams that everybody knows that England should
>humiliate if we were half as good as we make ourselves believe.
>
>A) Because we are not half as good. The management in my opinion is CRAP.

Agreed. Even tough international football is getting tougher Taylor is
still a prat. Speaking of prats, does anyone have the final line up for
England, in particular did Barnes play?

Thanx (and sigh of relief that England scored, but I still hate Taylor :-)

E I Gazzio...
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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:52:04 GMT

esh036@cck.coventry.ac.uk (RED*DEVIL) writes:

>P.S. Friendly Result

>Man Utd 3    Brondby 2           Tue 10 Nov.

That's a shockingly bad results for United. Br/ondby is in a major
scoring crisis that have cost them several points lately. The team
doesn't have a single decent forward. And yet they managed to score 
twice against United - playing without a defense?
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From: reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Derek Whyte
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:04:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland

In article <3556.9211201557@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>In article <By0IuG.Er5@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid) writes:
>|
>| Could it be the that Derek Whyte being in 'Boro is actually improving his
>|Scotland career, ie we've sort of forgotten about how genuinely average he was
>|and Roxy cant be bothered to go and watch him? I mean whenever you watch the
>|goals from the Premier League (The inferior English version) .......
>
>And what other Premier League's do you know???? Or maybe you're thinking
>of your wonderful (sic) Premier Division?
>
>(yes I know we've been through all this before........:-)
>
>gordon

Basically the point that I am trying to highlight is the sheer bloody arrogance
of calling the league by a name that already exists. Couldnt they have thought
something else up?

The boy Reid
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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: OTHER THINK I'M SHIT BUT NOT MY HERO
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:38:36 -0600
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of him would really make my life!!!!!  me, a virtual unknown, nothing, shit,
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
etc. and MY HERO would take the time to write to me.  you can't get better  
^^^^
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Well, at least part of that is correct.
From: reds@gribb.hsr.no (Svendsen, Trygve       7-95)
Subject: Re: Leeds-you have a rubbish pitch!!
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:25:39 GMT

In article <1eqmh5INNngb@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phucn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss D A Hill) writes:
>From: phucn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss D A Hill)
>Subject: Leeds-you have a rubbish pitch!!
>Date: 23 Nov 92 13:32:21 GMT


>   Ok,so the might GOONERS lost at Leeds...but the fact is,the pitch was a 
>disgrace....NO match should have been allowed on it.And,I notice you had
>to injure our goalie before you won!

>Wait till you go to Highbury...you will get a welcoming which you won't
>forget in a hurry!!!!!

>    Debs

>PS Does anyone know when we are playing Derby in the cup? (Dave,Darren??)


 The conditions were equal for both teams, so you can't complain about 
 that. Fact is, Arsenal were simply outplayed in every department.
 Leeds should in fact have won by much more.
 Thinking about it, the conditions were taylormade for the Arsenal-donkeys.
 Had the match been played at a decent pitch the score would probably 
 have been about 7-0 Leeds.
 
 TRYGVE SVENDSEN
 NORWAY
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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: World Youth Cup Draw
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:06:15 GMT

In article <9211231517.AA06273@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen) writes:
>Attn: Thomas
> > United States (how much are they paying FIFA for this one?)
> >              (apologies to the folks in the US but it seems
> >               all this development is going real fast, are you
> >               guys really this good or is it part of the WC '94 thing)
>
>Just to be clear on this, the US and Mexico finished 1-2 in the CONCACAF
>competition held this past summer and early fall. No funds were passed
>under tables to insure the US participation. They won the right to play
>on the pitch, like everyone else. Enjoy the matches, Thomas, they are
>an exciting young squad.
>
Actually they finished 2-1:- Mexico won the qualifying competition on
goal-difference. Also, it looked as though only four teams took part
in the qualifying, or were there multiple rounds to it?

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