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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:25:42 CST
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Pipes saves much work (again)

        Nearly done with a new release of CMS Gopher.   I sent a CARDDUMP
to Jim Colten and he found a bug.   (thanks, Jim)   I knew of one place
where this bug might be and later thought of a second,  but ya gotta be
sure about these things.

        Months ago,  I wrote GREP REXX.   (not what you think;   it's
far from a complete  'grep')   Actually,  for all my GREP does,  I
could just as well use plain-old LOCATE.

        Thanks to Pipes,  I was able to go through the entire 56 files
in the package  (that was everything,  including things where this coding
error could not possibly have shown-up)  and verify that I had squashed
this bug.   It took less than three minutes ... and that was in FILELIST.

        Thanks, John.

Stop BASIC before it stops you.   -- Dijkstra
Stop UNIX before it stops you.   -- Troth

Rick Troth <troth@rice.edu>, Rice University, Information Systems
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From:         "John P. Hartmann" <PIPER@VNET.BITNET>
Subject:      DEBLOCK 1-byte length

 RE: DEBLOCK 1-byte length

 I cannot see how to cajole the existing functions into doing this one.

 DEBLOCK NETDATA uses a one-byte inclusive length, but the following
 byte must have both highorder bits on, and presumably you cannot
 guarantee this.

 There sure is some catch-22ish about this.

     j.                                                john@vnet.ibm.com
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:40:50 EST
From:         "Steven P. Roder" <TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DEBLOCK 1-byte length

On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:19:31 LCL John P. Hartmann said:
> RE: DEBLOCK 1-byte length
>
> I cannot see how to cajole the existing functions into doing this one.
>
> DEBLOCK NETDATA uses a one-byte inclusive length, but the following
> byte must have both highorder bits on, and presumably you cannot
> guarantee this.
>
Many thanks to Christian Reichetzeder for his q&d filter to accomplish this.
The only problem with the filter was when a record spanned "buffers", it
was not being written, thereby misalligning the remainder of the file.
I added a few lines, and it works perfectly now, and real fast too !  It
out performed the same function in pure REXX by a factor of 5 for CPU time.
(same number of I/O's, since in the REXX routine I piped the file into a
STEM).

For anyone who is interested, here is the filter:

/* Deblock with 1-byte length fields */
/* Sample, q&d hacked from similar   */
/* filters ... use at your own risk, */
/* debug it, thrash it or whatever   */
buffer = ''
'peekto in'
buffer = buffer||in
Do While rc = 0
   Do Until length(buffer) < 1
      Parse var buffer len+1 buffer
      r_len = c2d(len)
      If r_len = 0 Then Exit 12
      If length(buffer) >= r_len Then Do
         outrec =  substr(buffer,1,r_len)
         'output' outrec
         If rc ^= 0 Then Signal OutGone
         buffer = substr(buffer,r_len+1)
      End
      Else Leave
   End
   'readto'
   'peekto in'
    buffer = buffer||in
   'output' substr(buffer,1,r_len)
    If rc ^= 0 Then Signal OutGone
    buffer = substr(buffer,r_len+1)
End
OutGone:
Exit rc*(rc^=12)
/* you can ask if you need help .. Christian */


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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:38:29 -0500
From:         NABELEK@UTKVX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Czechoslovakia

George Frajkor writes:


>  But the period in which Slovakia made the greatest economic
>gains on an annual basis was 1939-1944.  During this period more
>industries were established,. more power generated and more roads
>and railways built than in the 21 previous years.

Serious statistics and references supporting these statements would be
appreciated.  But I mean SERIOUS, written by real professionals and not by some
propangandists.


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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:19:00 EST
From:         Richard Budd <KLUB@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Hungarian in Slovakia

                                                 January 22, 1993

Thank you for the response to my query about finding Sandor, a 15
year old Hungarian boy a place to stay in America.  Two families
have offered to take him in and Sandor is deciding now with whom
he will stay.

Another Hungarian from eastern Slovakia, who is scheduled to
graduate from the gymnasium in June 1993 is now contemplating
whether to attend college in the United States.  Peter visited
our family last summer and had the opportunity to become well
acquainted with America.  His knowledge of English is very good;
at times he teaches his English teacher at school.

I have offered to fly Peter to America this summer so he can
either attend high school for a year or start community college.
My parents are in a situation which makes it difficult to provide
him accommodation with them.  Once again, I appeal to the
discussion group if either anyone here is willing or knows anyone
who would be able to provide him a place to stay.

In addition to being proficient in English, he also races
bicycles, plays the piano, and has demonstrated initiative in
taking on projects; he wrote many of the skits for his gymnasium
class's ribbon ceremony which took place last month.

Anyone interested in learning more and who wishes to contact me,
may email me before January 26 at <klub@maristb.bitnet>.  After
that date, please write me at <budd@cspgas11.bitnet>.

Currently, I am not receiving postings from MIDEUR, but will post a
summary of what happens.
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From: WI6865@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Mr. G. Wightman)
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Subject: Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:38:42 GMT
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On Wed, 20 Jan 1993 13:35:12 -0500 GEORGE BAUER
(BAUER%RCKHRST1.BITNET@edu.buffalo.cc.UBVM) said:

>I agree that the Slovaks HAVE NEVER voted for separation.
>
>I repeat, why was the referendum not allowed?

The last explanation I have seen for the failure to hold the referendum in
Slovakia was a technical one, given by a member of the Slovak government, if my
memory serves me right, in December last year (I can check details if any one
wants). The intention was to hold one early this year. There seems little
point now.

"Not allowed" seems more appropriate in the Czech case where a referendum was
ruled out immediately after the 1992 elections. The argument at that time
was the risk that in a federation-wide referendum, the Slovaks would vote for
a common state and the Czechs would vote to break up the federation - and lose
succession rights as a result. (This was said to me in conversations, and may
have appeared in the press.) Subsequently, it was argued that there was no
point on the grounds that the common state was no longer viable, even if a
referendum expressed support for it.

Gordon Wightman
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From: benes@itk.unit.no (Mila Benes)
Subject: Re:      Irreconcilability
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology / SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:43:50 GMT

Mr.G.Frajkor has published here some interesting results of polls. Was there any poll in Slovakia after the breakup, where people were asked something like "Are you more happy now than you were before the break-up?" . And if the majority says
"yes" than we all should be happy. 
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From: benes@itk.unit.no (Mila Benes)
Subject: Re:      Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology / SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:24:33 GMT

In article <9301220304.AA09846.9846@alfred.ccs.carleton.ca>,         George Frajkor <gfrajkor@CCS.CARLETON.CA> writes:
|> GEORGE BAUER writes:
|> >
|>    Man says: I love you, I want to marry you.
|> And we will live happily
|> ever after  by following the God-given order of man deciding all the
|> important affairs while woman changes the diapers.
|>     Woman says: I love you, I want to marry you.
|> And  we will live
|> happily ever after in a partnership where each of us shares the
|> burdens and the responsibilities.
|>          Czechs are still quoting the first lines of these dialogues.
|> And wondering how come there was a divorce.

Your comparison here may be quite appropriate, but can you explain why in this framework Czechs are never mentioning that they were living for about 20 years
under G.Husak, Slovak and nationalist (according to his former jailors).
(Please replace "mentioning" with "complaining" in the text above.) It is surprising for me, if you think of all that persecution etc. we were reading about.

|> 
|>    As for politicians ignoring the wishes of the peoplem, you will
|> have to explain why the people elected them when both party platforms
|> were abundantly clear and abundantly discussed.
|>
      
I do not think that it would be so difficult to explain.
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:39:55 EST
From:         Richard Budd <KLUB@MARISTB.BITNET>
Subject:      Ribbon Ceremony

> I had forgotten about it, but I seem to remember you said you attended
> the Ribbon Ceremony at a gymnazium.  Can you tell me more about that?
> I thought it was a spring ceremony, related to graduation.
> What can you tell me?
>
> george
>
George, the Ribbon Ceremony celebrates graduation from the gymnasium,
but it takes place around Christmastime because after the holidays,
fourth-year students become tremendously busy preparing for their
graduation exams (the term used was school-leaving tests) and entrance
exams for the university.  The fourth year is the most important for
gymnasium students because this is when they put their knowledge
gathered over the previous four years together toward entering the
University studying toward the career of their choice.

The Ribbon Ceremony is a symbol that the student has made it through
the first three and a half years of gymnasium and is preparing to take
the final step toward deciding his future career, either in the Univer-
sity or in another pursuit.  I identify this ceremony as a coming of
age.

By the way, the students wear their ribbons (they were green at the two
gymnasia I visited in East Slovakia) on their lapels or jackets for the
remainder of the academic year.

Anybody else want to explain further.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:24:51 +0200
From:         s565havra@IKEVAX.ENERGIETECHNIK.UNI-STUTTGART.DE
Subject:      Nice, nice, very nice - to be in the same device! Kurt Vonnegut

> (OK, now do you see the difference? Czechs and Slovaks want
> a common statem, but the Czechs will never accept
> the Slovak conception of a common state).

What is the 'Slovak conception of a common state'? I have never heared about
a detailed sytematical formulation of a programme available to anybody and
backed by a reasonable part of the Slovaks. The Czech people would
have appreciated to understand in detail what the Slovaks were going for rather
than what the Czechs didn't want. Can you really refuse something you don't
know anything about? Now it doesn't matter anymore, of course.

Instead, I remember just isolated ideas like: Chinese model, the capital city
should periodically move from Prague to Bratislava and back, separate currency
systems, armies, foreign policy and other ideas.

And of course emotional complaints and insults. So ever more Czechs are really
glad, it's finally over. They are acting again, not just reacting as they did
for a while. They thought they had to. This was a serious mistake.

Regards,
M. Havranek,
Stuttgart, FRG
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:30:57 MEZ
From:         "T. Palberg, M. Wuerth, R. Simon" <PHLEID02@NYX.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      Re: Jorg Haide and universities

In my opinion the gravest problem about the referendum is that
it will give the rightextreme party leader Haider public support.
He  managed
to lead a formerly liberal party into the rightest wings of
politics and may be the second     "Fuehrer" which came from
Austria.
A success of the referendum would be a real disaster, even if the law
would not pass the constitutional court.
Rolf Simon
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From:         Ivan Glesk <ivan@KITTYCAT.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent

>I agree that the Slovaks HAVE NEVER voted for separation.

>I repeat, why was the referendum not allowed?

>george bauer

Well, if we are going this way, let me ask you this:
    Why was the referendum NOT allowed in Czech lands?
ivan
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:46:53 EST
From:         Henry Kucera <HENRY@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Correction

Sorry, that should read 69 votes for Kovac.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:17:57 -0500
From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent

If the people of both the Czech Republic and Slovakia want a common state,
who or why is it determined that a common state is not viable?  What
makes it not viable?  Why is it not viable?  Who says it is not viable?

I have the feeling that there is a hidden message:
it is the POLITICIANS who decide, in spite of the wishes of the people.


george bauer
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:13:46 GMT
From:         "Mr. G. Wightman" <WI6865@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Slansky - previously Book and Movies

Igor Nabelek's wide-ranging response to my comments on Artur London's "The
Confession" refers to Mlynar as a member of the Communist Party leadership
in February 1948.I assume he is thinking of Zdenek Mlynar, the author of
"Night Frost in Prague" and leading figure in the 1960s reform movement. He was
 a member of the CP leadership in 1968 but not twenty years before when he
was only a 17-year old student. It is somewhat unfair to see his name
alongside those of Gottwald and Slansky.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:22:33 CST
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From:         Gunther Maier <maier@WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      Re: Jorg Haide and universities

On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:36:44 -0600, <MIDEUR-L@UBVM.BITNET> wrote:

>Does anyone subscribing in Austria, Germany, or elsewhere know anything
>more about what I heard on Deutsche Welle? At 0300GMT 26Jan, they reported
>that Jorg Haide was seeking public signatures in favor of a referendum
>on restricting immigration. They also said that he would like to see the
>percentage of foreigners in Austrian universities lowered to 30%.
>
>-Clay Miller at the University of Kansas.
>themil@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
>(913) 864-5350 (phone, fax, answ. machine)

The most important corrections and additions have been made by Hugh Agnew
and Michal Mnuk. Here are a few additions:
* Practically ALL relevant political and social groups have argued against
this referendum. (Yes, some for quite opportunistic reasons). Also most
newspapers and Austrian TV and radio have expressed severe reservations.
* There is NO chance that his proposal will be accepted by the Austrian
parliament. Nevertheless, Austria has been passing restrictive regulations
just like most other European countries.
* Last Saturday there was a massive demonstration in the Vienna city
center. More than 200,000 people, biggest gathering ever since WW2. This
event has been organized by SOS Mitmensch with support from many other
social and political groups. SOS Mitmensch is a group of artists,
politicians, priests, etc. The focus of their action is not primarily
Haider's referendum but the restrictive treatment of foreigners in Austria,
particularly those from Eastern Europe and X-YU.
* All the important newspapers agree that Haider is playing a risky game
also as far as his future is concerned. A number of his party
representatives did not support this referendum. When the referendum fails,
he might be in trouble.
Still hoping
Gunther Maier
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*  Augasse 2-6, Vienna, Austria.                                      *
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:36:49 -0500
From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent

George frajkor:

What is the IT that showed quite clearly what the Czechs and Slovaks
want?  Opinion polls ?  Somebody's opinion?  Hardly authoritative.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but why does everybody RUN from the
REFERENDUM question?  Everybody says what "the people want" -- but so far
as I can see the PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SPOKEN ABOUT THE SZECHO-SLOVAK QUESTION.
But there are a lot of people who CLAIM to speak for the people.

george bauer
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:33:30 -0500
From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Czech Republic wants a successful and independent

I have been falsely credited with the "Man says..."  "Woman says..."
comment.  And I have not read it carrefully, so I do not know whether I
agree with it or not.

george bauer
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:36:44 -0600
From:         THEMIL@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
Subject:      Jorg Haide and universities

Does anyone subscribing in Austria, Germany, or elsewhere know anything
more about what I heard on Deutsche Welle? At 0300GMT 26Jan, they reported
that Jorg Haide was seeking public signatures in favor of a referendum
on restricting immigration. They also said that he would like to see the
percentage of foreigners in Austrian universities lowered to 30%.

-Clay Miller at the University of Kansas.
themil@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
(913) 864-5350 (phone, fax, answ. machine)
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From:         henry krisch <HENRYK@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      EEur environment

For Barbara Jancar: a colleague here at UConn who is interested in
your work is Ellen Cromley (Geopgraphy Dept), who can be reached via
e-mail at:
                     ECROMLEY@UCONNVM.BITNET
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