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From: sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov (Susan B. Sinnott)
Subject: UPDATE: Fang and possible cancer
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:50:28 GMT

Well, I have very good news about Fang (my mother-in-law (mil)'s Yorkie who
had a tumer, she was an old 8 year old, my mil is against a lot of
operations for dogs or people, her vet wanted $300 to remove the tumor and
$200 to have it checked).  She found another vet very close by who said
that they would do *everything* for $290 and they said they had some
cancer treatments available should my mil want them.  She went ahead and
did it.  The vet removed 3 (!) tumors and they all came back non-cancerous!!!
My mil is *very* happy, and glad she had it done.  She asked me to thank
all of you who were kind enough to write in with advice about what she should
do.  So, thanks everyone!!!

Susan Sinnott
sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov


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From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog training camps?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:11:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
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In a previous article, bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) says:

>I  have heard of dog training camps where people go with their dogs for 
>a week?  a weekend? and there are workshops on utility, agility, etc.  I
>think this sounds kind of fun, and wonder:
>
>1.  Have you ever gone?  What was it like ?
>
>2.  Anyone know of any in California?  The only ones I know of are in the
>    midwest or places that aren't either convenient or where I would ever
>     consider vacationing.

Gee!  I'm in the Midwest and thought they were all in New England!  :-)
>
>     Thanks in advance
>
>
>     db
>
>
>

I would like to add my voice to Diane's and ask that someone with any
knowledge of these "camps" post to the group.  The pack and I could use a
vacation together!

Gail
Toby Airedale
Casey Bouvier
From: sgarcia@cisco.com (Steven Garcia)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dogs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:49:59 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
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|> >are great mine is 11.5 yrs old and has been throughout her life, exactly
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What's your secret?  :-)
(No nastiness intended -- just couldn't resist a little fun)

Steve
From: davek@scooter.intel.com (David Karikas)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Strange Behavior
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:16:34 GMT
Reply-To: davek@scooter.intel.com (David Karikas)
Organization: Disorganization

In article <17DEC199206423870@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, scgeoff@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GEOFF ELLIOTT) writes:
|> Hello All!
|> 
|> I am wondering if someone could help explain strange behavior in our 
|> Giant Schnauzer, Rex.
|> 
|> We've noticed (not just recently) that he'll stand motionless for nearly
|> an hour sometimes, with his head under bushes, tables, almost anything.
|> 
|> For example, with our Christmas tree, he just stands with his head lowered
|> under the tree.  He's not destructive, he simply stands.  
|> 
|> I'm just curious if any of you out there have had a dog do this and if
|> anyone could explain this, I'd appreciate it.  We don't yell at him
|> by the way, but it is comical.
|> 
|> Thank you, 
|> 
|> Geoff Elliott


Could it be that he was an Ostrich in his prior life?

-- 
Dave Karikas
Intel Corp. Hillsboro, Oregon
davek@scooter.intel.com
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From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Dogs and bedding
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:55:58 GMT

In article <18370@borg.cs.unc.edu>
whitaker@verdi.cs.unc.edu (Ross Whitaker) writes:
 
>
>Hi all,
>
>Several threads in this group have been talking about sleeping
>arrangements for dogs, and most people say "and of course a blanket".
>I would like to put a blanket or carpet in our dog's cage, but
>he shreads anything I put in their with him.  I make sure that
>he has plenty of toys, but he inevitable turns to the blanket,
>even at night.
>
>This dog is a 9-month old Choc. Lab.
>
>Currently he sleeps on the bare metal tray that sits in the bottom of the
>cage (don't worry, he's plenty warm).  Any suggestions?  Should
>I put something in their and replace it as he shreds it?  Won't
>this encourage shredding?  We tried a piece of carpet (bad idea!) and
>it only encouraged him to shred carpets elsewhere in the house.
>I tried spraying a blanket with bitter apple and putting it in their,
>and he freaked out when we told him to go to his cage.  I forced
>him in, and he eventually turned to shredding the treated bedding
>(although selectively and with less vigor).
>
>Although the shredding is a pain in the $%&@#, I have to say, it
>is fascinating to watch - he's very good at it.
>
>        Ross
>
 
Mine get newspapers.  They get three or four whole newspapers which they
then turn into nest material.  Sometimes I change it daily and sometimes
it stays longer.  I find that the frequent replacement of bedding is
an excellent flea deterrant.  I get discarded newspapers from the
library where I work and try to avoid colored ink.  Wall Street Journal
and the New York Times are the best.  I have to take staples out of them
before I can use them.  I would prefer to use blankets, but with animals
that eat blankets and animals that have "accidents" newspapers are a
good substitute and are probably somewhat more comfortable than bare
metal or wire grates (in the airline crates).
Judith
From: dgm@garnet.berkeley.edu (D.G. Meads)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: B names
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:56:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu



I sometimes call my hound Beeblebrox... from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Universe...if my failing memory is correct?

Debbie Meads 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Poor Chris!
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:40:45 GMT

Poor Chris!  I think he was just trying to admit one of those secretly
held, politically incorrect beliefs that we all have. Let me admit mine:
I remember crying when we sold one of our dog's puppies to a wonderful
couple.  (I was 11; it was my parents decision, not mine.)  Why was I
crying?  They didn't have any kids.  I just couldn't imagine a happy dog
without kids.  

I really think he was purposely overstating his case to express his own
feelings.  I'm sorry I jumped on the wagon, I didn't realize when I wrote
that others had already addressed the issue.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:14:03 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Amputation Progress Update
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  Just out of curiosity, what kind of a vet bill did Meagan run up?
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From: mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: Snow Dogs
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:33:51 GMT

In article <1gl56bINN7o1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley) writes:
>Hello everyone, this is Siegfried.  Mommy is busy, so I thought
>I would post a message to all the doggies out there.  Everyone get
>your doggies to the screen.
>
>We have lots of snow here is Worcester, MA--maybe even too much.  I
>can't run like usual, but I did help Mommy dig her car out yesterday.
>Anyway, I wanted to let you know about a fun trick I do in the snow.
>I call it making snow dogs.   You run along the snow with your head
>down, then fall over onto your side or back (sometimes I can even
>do a somersault).   Now, wriggle around in the snow and make a fun
>snow dog pattern!   This is really great.
>
>Also, a little beauty tip for you fellow winter dogs.  Snow in the coat
>makes it look full and beautiful.  And for Christmas decorating, don't
>shake out 'til you go back inside.  Instant snowflakes all over the 
>house!
>
>Siegfried
>posting from mommy's account
>mfriley@wpi.wpi.edu

Hey Siegfried,
	Guess what.  Dad's so non-busy that he fell asleep and doesn't
know I am posting to all the newsgroups I can get into.  Anyway I'll
try that snow dog thing as soon as we get more snow.  Ours metled :(
But I did learn something new this year.  Don't try to fetch snow balls.
Everytime I get to where it landed I can't find the darn thing.  I dig
and poke around but I can't find it.  In a desparate attempt to fool Dad
I tried to catch one from across the yard.  What a mess.  Snow all over
and I got quite a mouthfull :-)  I don't like the fact that the snow
covers up my favorite paths though so I have do dig my nose down to 
the ground and plow my way through the yard.  I get to eat a lot of 
snow and it gets all clumped up in my fur.  Lasts for hours for that
lazy time a few hours later and you want to munch on something cold and
crunchy.  Well, gotta go.  I'm sure the folks in rec.audio.high-end
are dying to hear what I have to say about subwoofers :-).  Say
hey to all your dog friends.

Beamer (in trouble again)



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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: what's too cold.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:45:25 GMT

> Sharon Zeff writes:
> Hi, I have a question about whether it is necessary to turn the heat on
> for my dog.  She is a greyhound so there is not much fur to her.  I live
> just south of San Francisco and it gets into the 30s and 40s at night.  I
> tend to put more clothes on and sleep under an extra comforter, but this
> is my first winter with my dog, she is full grown though.  I would rather
> not pay the outrageous power bill that comes with turning on the heat, but
> it would certainly be preferrable then having my dog get sick or even be
> uncomfortable.  She tends to sleep on the couch and does not stay in one
> place so covering her up would probably not work.  Does anyone know how to
> tell when a dog is cold ?


I have a 100% indoor dobie, and he seems to shiver at about the same
temperatures as I do, if I am wearing clothing roughly eqivalent to the
warmth of his fur. He also changes the way he sleeps when cold...on his back
when it's warm or curled in the smallest ball with his nose under his paws
when it's cold. If you notice your dog shivering at night, why not get her a
doggie sweater? Hopefully she won't chew it, you might want to spray some
bitter apple on it until she's used to the idea.

I've been thinking about cold dogs lately too, since the weather has dropped.
When I take my dobie out for a walk, I notice that he will shiver a lot if we
stop moving for long enough. When he's moving around though, he seems just
fine, and if I stop for only a brief moment, he is not shivering. I wonder
about his ears though...*I* have to wear ear muffs or my ears HURT when I
come home, does anybody think this is a problem for the dogs too? Is he
probably okay on these walks or should I get him a coat of some kind for cold
days?

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mutz@inferno.Kodak.COM (Andrew Mutz)
Subject: Re: Akita
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:43:10 GMT

In reference to raising a male Akita pup:

yes, Akitas are in general strong-willed dominant dogs, and 
no, Akitas are not, in general, aggressive dogs (in my experience.)

There ARE lines of Akita which tend to be more aggressive than others,
and in Japan dominant aggressiveness is part of the breed standard.  In 
the US, different breeders have different feelings about how 'hard' or
'soft' the dogs temperament should be.  Our Akita, Bandit, has been fairly
well socialized with dogs, and still assumes dominant behavior with every
other dog (Ears up, tail up, head up, etc.)  He has never so much as growled 
at another dog.  (Other dogs have growled, snarled and snapped at him,
however, as he does NOT acknowledge their dominance.)  Hence, he has very
few, mostly female playmates.  He is very well socialized with people, and
not dominant or aggressive to anyone.  He would be considered a rather 'soft'
Akita.  

Good luck, they are great dogs!

Andy.
mutz@kodak.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya)
Subject: Re: Opal's Inferiority Complex
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:34:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.161317.2525@news.nd.edu>, you wrote:
> 
> (Kelly Anne Hinkle) writes: my
> >9 month old daughter Jessica has gotten to that wonderful age of mischief.
> >The problem is this--whenever I scold Jessica for doing something she knows
> >she shouldn't, Opal slinks away like I'm yelling at her.  So as I'm saying,
> >"J, no!", I have to say "Good dog, Opal!"  It's kinda hard sometimes!  :)
> >
This probably has nothing to do with your situation *but* when I got my
second dog I was very careful two precede all commands with the dog's name
so the two would not get confused (it sounds like you do as well). When one
get's in trouble the other *knows* exactly who is in trouble and even loves
(my perception anyway) to watch when I verbally discipline the other. My
wife and I have noticed that our Lab (aka "the angel") will generally bark
and leave the room when she sees my other dog (aka "the butthead") getting
into trouble (usaully chewing on something he should not be), it's a cue
that means we she should go see what the other is up to. It's actually kind
of funny.
--moya
From: lydia@tarsal.dsg.ti.com (lydia middendorf )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: malamute rescue
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:58:09 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Austin, Tx.
Distribution: austin
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	sorry- I don't now how to retrieve posts...so I don't
	know who sent it.....I did notice it was from austin though.


	If malamute rescue is unable to help you, please call me.
	I don't know if I'll be able to help.

	work- 250-7880 (but I will be off the next couple days)
	      2320 hrs to 0720 hrs.

	hm- long distance-  512-868-7031

    people that get malamutes often don't know what they are in for.
    but if you know what your getting...they are great.


    Lydia




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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: UPDATE on finding a dog for retired parent
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:44:20 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20Lines: 18

A while back I posted asking for advice on how to help my Mom find a mellow
dog.  She is retired & a lifelong dog-lover, but can't deal with a puppy again
at her age.  Many of you sent or posted great suggestions, which I discussed
with her.  In the end, here's what she decided to do:

She contacted a local AIDS organization in her area that arranges for adoption
of dogs whose owners are too ill from AIDS to care for their pets any longer. 
She will get to meet the previous owner & the dog ahead of time, & they all
sort of "interview" each other to make sure it is a good adoption match.  This
way she not only gets an older dog who she is sure was loved & treated well,
but she also gets to help ease the mind of a very ill person about the future
of a beloved companion.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Matt Ledna)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:29:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Kong???
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

| We think it is the best dog toy we've ever bought.  Just
| wondering if anyone has anything to say about it (pros &cons).

  Ditto.  When Zack got his it was like watching a kid get a new bicycle for 
  Christmas.  Up until that time he showed very little interest in "fetch"
  games.  But with the Kong he will retrieve all day long.  It is definitely
  the best toy for the money that I have seen.

Matt Ledna
mledna@corp.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dag@bellman.control.lth.se (Dag Bruck)
Subject: William Wegman: Man's Best Friend
Summary: Pretty weird, great fun
Organization: Department of Automatic Control, Lund, Sweden
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:15:53 GMT


I would like to recommend an unusual Christmas present for the
open-minded dog fancier:  William Wegman's calendar, Man's Best
Friend.

It's pretty far out, and I think it's immensely funny.  Some people
may ask if you are supposed to do so with dogs; I suggest you make up
your own mind.  Bring one to the next meeting of the dog club -- it
will certainly start a discussion.

			-- Dag
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

I also have an Irish Setter.  Aren't they great?  Please wait until Sham leaves
this earth to bring a new dog in.  The reason is, Sham's disabilities are OK
when he is within his same old comfortable pack, and he feels secure.  But if
you introduce a new dog at this time, he will be unable to SEE the dog, and
may be unable to hear it much, and it could be VERY distressing to him.  He
will be unable to establish any dominance, and he will feel replaced before
his time.  Make his last days as happy and stress-free as possible, and then
replace him when he goes with this new addition to the family.

Diane

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Eagle Dog Food
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:03:04 GMT

	Have any of you tried the Eagle dog foods? When I was at a dog
show last month I picked up info from the various dog food
distributors/manufacturers who were there, and I liked some of the things that
I read in the Eagle brochure (e.g., use of meat, chicken, AND fish; the
addition of yogurt-like "friendly bacteria", etc.).

	I'm currently in the process of switching some of my dogs over to
Eagle Natural Pack and would be interested in hearing about the experiences
that people have had with dog food manufactured by Eagle. THANKS.

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From: bob@reed.edu (Robert Ankeney)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Getting our second dog / questions!
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:56:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec15.195614.16626
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR



     Yesterday, my wife and I adopted a second dog from the animal shelter.
Our first dog we adopted about 4 months ago.  He's a Rottweiler, about
a year and a half old.  He's very sweet and we're quite fond of him.
We began obedience training him right away, and now he's very well
behaved and lives in the house.  We haven't seen need to put him in
his pen for any length of time lately.  He's also proven to be a very
submissive dog.
     Our experience with him and the folks at the animal shelter was
very positive, and since adopting him, we've visited there numerous
times.  Over the weekend we saw this beautiful mastiff there who seems
very sweet.  My wife went back on Monday and visited again, taking him
out on leash and seeing how he was.  She liked him and we agreed to
adopt him.  He's being neutered now, so we probably won't be bringing
him home till tomorrow.  He seems to be a pretty submissive dog.  He's
about 1 year old, but big and muscular.
     So we're looking for advice on dealing with two dogs.  We think
we'll first introduce them away from the house for starters.  And the
idea of keeping our first dog higher in the hierarchy sounds good.  We'll
feed him first, take hime out the door first, etc.  I suspect the mastiff
will outgrow the Rottweiler and assume that won't be a problem.
     I'm not sure how soon to let the new dog sleep in the house.  For
one thing, we don't know if he's housebroken.  But I think he'll have
to be on leash for a while initially.
     One big question we have regards obedience training.  Should there
be seperate commands for the same thing?  For example a new word for "sit"
to be used just with the new dog?  I would assume not, as to me it would
seem pretty confusing.  Any advice on advantages/disadvantages of this
would be appreciated.

     I'm sure there are a myriad of other questions I could ask, but those
spring to mind first.  Can anyone suggest a book for dealing with this?
The little info I've read usually has a brief amount on introducing a
puppy, but little on two adults.

     Oh, yeah.  Would simply getting some psychotherapy be better/cheaper
than a second dog? ;-)

     Thanks for the help!

     Robert
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:55:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Opinions on dog sleeping arrangements
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 * Replying to a message originally to All
 * Replying to a message originally from Sal Magnone
 > Hello all,
 > 
 > I would like to know your opinion on pets sleeping in the
 > same room as their 
 > owners.  I have read different views on this subject and
 > would like to learn of
 > some first hand experience on this subject.
  Some of the dog training books I have read claim that allowing the
dog to sleep in the same room with you is basic for the relationship
between dog and owner.
  I think it depends on the dog.  I had two dogs several years aag
that were light sleepers.  I always knew when they were awake.  They
would sit and stare at me, in hopes that I'd get up real soon to play
with them or feed them.  I didn't get much rest.  They soon found
themselves sleeping in a doghouse.
  I recently got a little Staffie who lays down and is out like a
light.  Don't mind a dog like that sleeping in my room.  
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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:31:03 GMT


I'm glad to see that this is an unfounded rumor.  I really have read some good
things about Eagle in the past and I hoped it wasn't true.  However, I'll
probably be staying with Kasco because for a premium food it is pretty cheap.

Interestingly enough, I'm the only person that buys Kasco from this dog food
store.  It is too bad too, because I think my dogs do pretty well on it.

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