HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: handlebar taping technique
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:24:27 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <casseres-110992162935@missmolly.apple.com> casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.215847.14974@tamsun.tamu.edu>, glp7584@tamuts.tamu.edu
>(Gordon Lee Powell Jr) wrote:
>
>> [how do you recommend securing the ends of handlebar tape...?]
>
> I've just adopted a great 4th alternative,
>which I learned from Eric House:  Cut two short lengths of innertube (28C -
>38C size).  Disconnect your brake cables from the levers and take the
>levers off the bars.  Pull a piece of innertube over each bar, with the
>brake cable passing through it, and then reassemble the levers and cables. 
>Now, on each handlebar you have a rubber collar near the stem, with the
>brake cable passing through it.  Wind your tape up to the rubber, and then
>secure it by pulling the rubber over it.
>
>This method involves no extra adhesives, and works with any kind of bar
>tape.  Getting the rubber pieces in place is a hassle the first time, but
>only has to be done once.  The result looks very clean, and it's very easy
>to change tape, or take it off, clean it, and rewrap it in the case of
>non-adhesive tapes.
>

I sent this suggestion to Gordon too, and he liked it enough to suggest I
post it.  I would have, but David beat me to it!

The only addition I'd make is to note that I've been using Continental
tubes intended for 20-25c tires.  I've never tried tubes as large as those
David is using, and so can't compare them.  But those of you who don't have
big tubes sitting around begging to be cut up can get by with the smaller
kind too.
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: Microdrive durability? (was Great MTB's MB-0/1)
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:21:46 GMT

In <1992Sep10.232448.17247@news.csd.sgi.com> shiba@riffnique.csd.sgi.com (Richard Shiba) writes:

>In <5677@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> broadley@lrdc5 (Bill Broadley) writes:

>>	No microdrive drive train. (for longer durability)

>i haven't heard much talk about microdrive being less
>durable, but i was thinking, some of my roadie friends
>used to say that 11T cogs wore out like butter.  Yet
>SunTour is offering an 11T cog and a 20T chainring.

I don't have microdrive so I can't say if wear is really a
problem, but considering how cheap it is to get one or two
cassette cogs (under $10 each) I wouldn't expect this to
make much difference for drivetrains as expensive as
current microdrive setups.  It's cheaper than a new chain
or one good tire.
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From: hallstro@solan.unit.no (Lars Hallstr|m Eriksen)
Subject: Re: drum brakes
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:41:57 GMT

In article <v5xnzgj.tomk@netcom.com>, tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
 > In article <1992Sep12.181828.7291@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel) writes: 
[Stuff deleted]
 > >They do require seals, etc., but they have less friction and less
 > >elasticity, both of which contribute to a positive brake.  The pads
 > >move in a stright line with the Maguras, eliminating cantilever pad
 > >suck.
 > 
 > Good cantilevers require so little maintenance that that isn't 
 > an issue. Elasticity is almost always in the cantilever axles
 > and forks, so you cannot fix this with hydraulics.

I think David is referring to cable elasticity.  My front brake is much better
than the rear one because the cable is shorter.  The brakes are otherwise
identical, and both rims are Al.  But then my (old) centerpulls have rather stiff
springs and high friction; I would expect this problem to be less noticeable with
cantilever brakes.  (Does anybody know about a cantilever brake that can be
installed on a frame which doesn't have cantilever axles welded on?)

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider)
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaners
Organization: The Banzai Institute
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:48:31 GMT

seanodon@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Aragorn) writes:
: 	Hopefully this won't start a flame war about cleaning chains
: again (let me put on the aspestos (sp?) suit just in case  .... ok,
: ready).  Does anyone have experience with the 'chain cleaners' available
: from Park or Vetta.  I'm talking about the type that goes around the

I use the Park version of chain cleaner on my road bike.  I've had good
success with it so far.  I use it every few rides or so but I wouldn't
suggest using the solvent that is supplied as a lubricant.  After I am
finished running the chain through the cleaning unit I drop on some silicon
liquid and spin the chain through all the gears.  Things are running
smoothly so far.

: Aragorn

Wow, another aragorn ... small world!



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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: rudyw@Ingres.COM (Rudy Walter)
Subject: Removing frozen freewheel
Reply-To: rudyw@Ingres.COM (Rudy Walter)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:18:08 GMT

A seldom used older bike in the family has a broken spoke on the dished
side of the rear wheel. I knew it would be easy to fix if only that
!$#`% freewheel would come off. Problem is that the freewheel (screw
on type not the cassette type) is frozen and I have partially stripped
the raised steel edge on which the freewheel removing tool is
supposed to seat itself. I have enough edge left to be able to seat the
freewheel tool, but need to avoid using a lot of force. I tried some
Liquid Wrench to free it up along with some sideways hammer tapping, but
the sucker still isn't budging. Any miracle cures or products out there?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
From: Bernd.Kischnick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bernd Kischnick)
Subject: Re: Hubs built for straight spokes
Summary: spokes with stronger bends
Keywords: break flange hub spoke wheel
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:58:52 GMT

In his original article, David Keppel asked whether other companies
regard spoke breakage at the bends as a problem, whether one could
expect improved breakage resistance from strengthened bends, and whether
there are any spokes with stronger bends.

I just found out that the german company Berg-Union produces a
double-butted spoke with three different diameters (hence called
the 3-D spoke):
2.0mm at the threading (don't kow about your gauges),
1.6mm in the middle part, and
2.34mm at the bent part.
In their product info, they explicitly state this design should
prevent spoke breakage "at the most critical point".

I checked my wheels to see if any of the Berg-Union spokes I have
used so far are of that type, but I only found their conventional
2.0/1.6mm double butted spokes (of which I have broken some)
(all at the bends, of course).
So I can't tell if there is any noticable effect from the strong bends.

I'm still convinced a good straight spoke design should be 
superior in any case.

-   Bernd.
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Scotchlite question
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:42:54 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

I ran across someone with a .3M address on another group, and this 
is what he told me.  I'll have to pre-emptively apologize for not
posting to the right group, since our site hasn't caught up with
the reorganization yet; please Earnestly steer your followups to 
r.b.marketplace if you can.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"

>Ah, I know of the stuff.  I have purchased the 1 inch reflective fabric
>and my wife used it to sew onto a dog harness so that now our doggy
>reflects at night.  I actually think it has market potential.  (I
>bought the fabric at our company store.)

>I would guess that you could find the stuff in a sewing store.  If
>you need info about dealer near you and such, there is a general
>3M product help line that is suppose to be most helpful.  I'm not
>sure if it is oriented towards industrial purchases or home
>use but they are pretty good about getting the right info out
>to customers of all types.  The number is 612/733-5454.
Organization: Junior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:47:51 -0400 
From: "Christopher L. McGee" <cm3w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: wanted: road frame

i'm looking for an slx frame with the following dimensions:

59 seat tube, c-c
top tube around 59
angles:  around 74 head, around 72.5-73 seat
wheelbase around 102

if you can help me out, or know of any frame that is close to these
numbers, please send me some mail or call 412-621-3609.   not very
picky, too broke.

thanks
chris
pittsburgh, pa

cm3w+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: When's the pro road race?
From: cbarilleaux@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Cyberpreppie)
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:55:29 -0500
Organization: The CyberSwamp

	When are the world championships, anyway? If they have occured, who
won?

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	 (sprinter's) jearsy
From: Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:51:51 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
> This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
> of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
> blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?
>
> racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
> a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
> with a lead-alloy frame.
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Once upon a time I rode 10 miles or so to a doctor's appointment.  To my
surprise, the doctor wanted a blood test.  Yuck!   I explained that I would
have to ride my bike home, and, since I'd heard of others who had felt weak
after donating blood, I didn't think that a blood test would be wise just
before my afternoon ride.

The doctor explained that a blood test takes only a very small amount of blood
- maybe one percent of the blood in one's body, as compared to the ten percent
a blood donor gives.  He assured me that this tiny loss of blood would have no
effect on my commute.   I believed him.

I was brave in the hospital lab when the nurse stuck a needle into my arm.  I
don't believe in wimping out, so I was being matter-of-fact and thinking
positively. When the nurse had a vial full of blood, I gathered up my panniers,
pump, and helmet, and proceeded down a long hospital corridor on the way to my
bicycle.

The floors began to tilt dangerously.   I realized that I was about to faint,
so I lay myself down on the floor just before the lights went out.

When I came to, a collection of people in white coats with stethoscopes were
attending me.  I thought this was pretty funny, so I started to laugh.   This
led them all to believe I was on drugs, which only made things funnier.

Even when I explained what happened and felt ready to go, the hospital wouldn't
release me.   I had to stay there, flat on my back, all afternoon until a
friend came to drive me home.

Does this tell you how I feel about giving blood before your ride?


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From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Subject: Miyata MTBs in US?
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 13:25:44 GMT

Hey y'all.
I might be getting a Miyata MTB here in Sweden soon.
Now, since I know that everything is MUCH cheaper in the US than here, I was wondering if you guys have Miyata over there too.  And if so how much a Ridge Runner, an Elevation 2000 and maybe the Elevation 10000 would cost.
Here the Ridge Runner and the E. 2000 cost 1300 bucks and the E. 1000 costs 
2200 bucks, which is pretty expensive I'd say. Since these bikes don't even have RockShocks.

Well, if ya feel like answering these questions, do so by email please.

thanx,

	-Chris.
From: andrews@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (andrew smedley)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: 700c knobbies
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:13:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.

Panracer do a version of their excellent `Smoke' knobbly for 700c wheels.

I know Ron Kit distribute them in the UK.

Andrew.
From: TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: bottom brackets...sealed or regular?
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:17:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

This is very tough to answer.  I'm in the same boat for BBs and have spoke
to quite a few techs about the subject.  I would say 50-50, some are against
sealed BBs, while some are pro sealed.  Confused? Shimano, I would buy the
$15.95 UN-50 with the plastic cups.  As far as looking at the construction
of the UN-50 and the big brother UN-70, I see no difference except that the
body is machined thinner on the outside of the shell.  You still have to
buy the tool to insert, which cost $15.00.  Phil Wood, very nice with the
steel cups, not the allumn cups, price $89.00 plus the insert tool, or have
you local Pro bike shop do it!  For me, I'll return my Un-50 and insert tool
and buy the campy-C record.
                                            Tom
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: Re: Thoughts
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 14:55:12 EDT

Thus spoke the keyboard of brockr@muvaxe.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride):
>  Hi all,
>
>  Maybe I shouldn't be posting this one of the sub-newsgroups but, didn't know
>which one so, I'll take my lickens.
>  For any of you out there who have been reading some of my posted questions
>they'll realise that I'm relatively new to biking - this is but my second
>year of cycling.  (Actually this whole message is thought processes emanating
>out of my skull).
>  With cycling I've finally found something that I'm totally caught up with.
>In essence, I LOVE IT!  But, the problem I'm having with it is as follows:
>  Because I work a full time job I don't get as near enough saddle time as I
>would want.  And, because I live outside of Munich by the time I get home
>at night, in the Autumn/Winter, it's already dark, so that shoots cycling time
>all to hell.

IMHO, don't let work and/or your {girl|boy}friend interfear with your
training activity! First ride your bike, then work or date with your
{girl|boy}friend.

>I guess one point would be if there's a way of obtaining some sort of 
>detachable lighting system for the bikes, visible from front and rear? 
>Here in Germany, there is no such a thing.  Is there such a thing?

There are several types on the US market. And if you keep your racing
bike in a safe place when not riding it, why buy a detachable lighting
system? Why not leave it on all the time. I've got a NightSun Team Issue
with quick release mounting system, but I keep the light on my bike 1/2
of the year and I don't remove it until the spring (don't need them
then).

>  Comments, suggestions, thrown eggs; welcome.
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^

Only car drivers throw eggs or other items at bikers ;-)

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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:28:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep12.115544.1@mdcbbs.com> royce@mdcbbs.com (Royce D. Myers EDS/Unigraphics) writes:
>
>  This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
>  of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
>  blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?
>
>  My commute is 10.5 miles each way; it normally takes 40-45 minutes with
>  lights.  I weigh about 160 (5'8").  I am in good shape, but I'm not a
>  racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
>  a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
>  with a lead-alloy frame.
>

This kind of question really depends on the person. I've always given blood
while commuting and never had any problems. Of course you're also
supposed to be a little light headed after donating and I always feel
like getting rid of another pint.

If you want to ride, take it easy and drink a lot of juice after you
donate to get your body's fluids back up.

Flip


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From: dlp@zule.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan Pritchett - SunSoft Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Recommendations needed for Shaw's Lightweight Cycles
Date: 10 Sep 1992 21:40:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: zule

In article <1992Sep9.142538.1081@pure.com>, piaw@pure.com (Na Choon Piaw) writes:
|> Other good stores I've heard good things about are: Wheelsmith (Palo
|> Alto), Palo Alto Bicycles, and CycleCraft (Cupertino).  I've also been
|> told to avoid Bicycle Outfitter.
|> 
I find Bicycle Outfitter expensive and rude.

|> Any stories, anecdotes, recommendations, etc would be much
|> appreciated.
|> 
By far my best experience with a bike store is Foxworthy Bikes on
Meridian avenue (north of Hamilton). I would rank the staff #1 by a wide
margin over my experiences with all other bike stores. I would rank
them as the best store I have been to regardless of product (bike or
anything else) with respect to customer treatment. I can not recommend
them enough. I oouldn't buy anything until I at least stopped in and
said hello. Let them know I sent you buy and no I don't work for them
or get paid by them in any way. Just a satisfied customer.

-- 
Thanks

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From: feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld)
Subject: Krypto locks, grittiness, and paint
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:55:26 GMT

1. The tip of my kryponite bike-lock key, once so shiny black, is now
a well-worn silvery colour.  It occurred to me to wonder, today, where
all the little flakelets of paint had gone, over the years.

2. The lock action has become slower, sluggish, almost gritty.

3. Do you suppose?
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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: women working on bikes
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 00:12:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9209042339.AA22951@hplomg.hpl.hp.com> BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM writes:
>Dave Wuertele writes:
>
>> The natural-bias hypothesis takes on mythical proportions, even (perhaps
>> especially) in that segment of society which should consider itself most
>> responsible:  the technically educated.  Jobst, you didn't mention having
>> any daughters, and you did mention not having worked with any women engineers.
>As I said, this concept raises problems for which I have no solutions but
>I believe that hereditary characteristics are pronounced and strong
>statistically.  Fortunately there are enough exceptions to allow escape
>for the individual.

In the latest Scientific American you can read specific information that
notes that there is _strong_ statistical and medical evidence that
although men and women think the same they do not use
the same portions of their brains to do so.

If this is the case, there may very well be a difference in the mechnical
capability of those who are on the far sides of the curve. So what
else is new? Are we so egalitarian that we must find that all people
must have equal capacities or we are undone?