From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: To All Truth Seekers!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 12:55:01 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

goff@intruder.navo.navy.mil (Victoria Goff) writes:

*SIGH* 

Yet another imbecile christian trying to convert the readers of this
newsgroup over to THE ONE TRUE RELIGION.

>   Question: The bible, as a history book, is astonishingly correct when
>	     used to understand archeological remains and ancient writings.

Well, the christian bible is an ancient writing that makes references
to other ancient writings.  When these other ancient writings are
found christians start gushing in extacy screaming "Look, if this
obscure reference wedged between two unimportant sections of my book
has some truth to it, then my ENTIRE document is vindicated!."

Sorry.  Not me.

Even works of absolute fiction have SOME truth in them.

It seems somewhat ironic to me that you started off this post
stressing the importance of seeing both sides to an issue, only to
follow up with a VERY one-sided argument.  If you are going to tout
the accuracy of the christian bible, then you must also accept that
there are literally THOUSANDS of passages that have been totally
discredited.  Pi is not equal to three.

>   Question: If the account is incorrect, then many people have participated
>	     in the writing of a story that certainly would have required
>             very wicked hearts to produce. 

Are you looking for someone to defend the authors of the christian
bible?  Yes, I agree that some of them had wicked hearts.  This
happens occasionally with humans, you know.  Also, the christian bible
reeks of being written by many people with many different goals.  It
is impossible for such a large number of people to agree on
everything. 

The rest of this post is a sorry attempt at an induction hypothesis
proof.  I deleted it to save time.  You say "I believe A is true, and
since A is true B is true.  Since B is true A *HAS* to be true!"  It
doesn't work that way.  Dear christians:  We kind atheists have put
all of this in the FAQ.  We've come right out and told you what
arguments and argument tactics have been tried again and again.  If
you hope to get anywhere (you won't, but have fun trying) read the
damn FAQ!

>AND NOW- THE FINAL POSITION THAT NO INTELLIGENT, UNBIASED, TRUTH SEEKING
>COMMITTED ATHEIST WOULD NEVER TAKE (or would they)

What a pathetic display.  It's been said a lot here recently: If the
discussion of atheists disturbs you, you should unsubscribe from this
group and go on with your life.  We do not need yet another religious
weenie trying to convert us to THE ONE TRUE RELIGION.  Perhaps it is
you who is uncapable of accepting diversity, of knowing the difference
between valid arguments and stupid ones.

>Disclaimer: My opinions are my own.

I disagree.  I take this post (which, I believe, has appeared in this
newsgroup verbatum) as evidence that you would have some kind of moral
dilemma if you ever caught yourself having an opinion that wasn't
preached to you by your organized religion.

Did you expect to impress with an argument such as this that we have
all heard and seen a thousand times before?  Do you really think there
would be so many atheists and non christians on this planet if
vindicating your religion was as easy as typing a few paragraphs out
of a Kampus Krusade for Krist bulletin?  Get a life.

Stratocaster
-- 
	   Steve Davis (I'm a student, not a spokesperson!)
      strat@cis.ksu.edu - Kansas State University - Manhattan KS
				   
 Anarchy means having to put up with things that really piss you off.