From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: SB-24/wedding (Re: AF/AE vs. Manual aka All That Jazz)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:20:35 GMT
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From article <1992Jul23.034524.4886@cello.hpl.hp.com>, by jacobson@cello.hpl.hp.com (David Jacobson):
> In article <9!gm26b.hchong@netcom.com> hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong) writes:
> [Quote from Mark Goldberg deleted]
>>
>>I was going to start a new thread about possibly buying SB-24, but since
>>you already mentioned SB-24...
>>
>>
>>Now how do you use SB-24 for vertical shot?  Presumably, I would want
>>bounced flash *all the time*.   oes the SB-24 has a cardboard bounce accessary
>>like the old Vivitar 285?  Is there any (cheap) way I can enable ceiling
>>bounced flash even on vertical shot?
> 
> There are two ways to do what you ask.  1.  Get a Stroboframe flash
> bracket.  I think the numbers are RL/c or RL/2000.  (I don't own one,
> but have heard nothing but good about them.)  These have rotating
> brackets so the camera can turn on end while the flash bracket stays
> vertical.  If you are not using a bouncer, then you will need to
> adjust the zoom on the flash manually to 2/3 the focal length.  But
> you probably want to use a bouncer.  I have the LumiQuest 80/20 and
> like it.  80% of the light continues up to bounce off the ceiling and
> 20% is reflected to avoid shadows under eyesockes and nose and to give
> some sparkle to eyes.  If you want 100% reflection you can use the
> Pocket Bouncer or the Big Bounce.
> 
> 2. This is the perfect lead-in for my latest construction story.  You
> can mount your flash on a stand, and possibly bounce it off an
> umbrella.  Here is how I made one cheap.  This isn't appropriate for a
> wedding, but you can certainly do it in the privacy of your own home. :-) 
> I went to Keeble & Shuchat in Palo Alto and bought the PhotoFlex
> adjustable flash bracket for $19.95.  It consists of two pieces with
> egg-shaped holes in the ends and set screws with big handles on them.
> A clamp lets you control the angle between the pieces.  There are
> brass inserts that optionally go into these holes.  One has 1/4-20 and
> 3/8-?? male threads, the other has female threads.  It also has
> another hole and setscrew for mounting an umbrella.  I also found an
> old Longarm twistlock painters pole.  (The thing that you faster a
> roller onto when painting high walls or ceilings.)  It is about 4 feet
> long unextended and will extend to over 7 feet.  We had one left over
> from painting the house, but they are less then $5 at a hardware
> store.  I took a pocket knife and carved down the threads making the
> end small enough to go into the hole in the PhotFlex bracket.  I
> clamped in other end in an old Christmas tree stand.  I mounted the
> Photoflex bracket on the carved down threads, and put my SB-24 (on the
> SC-17 synch cord) on the other end.  I had a white umbrella that we
> bought at a (Long's) drug store.  I couldn't put that through the
> umbrella hole, since the handle was (way) too big.  So I got a 5/16
> dowel at the hardware, clamped it in the holder, and fastened it to the
> umberella with rubber bands.
> 
> It all works wonderfully.
> 
>>What is the current price for S -24?  CWOO wants $254 (the same old
>>"have stock (until they get your order)" but I am afraid they might call
>>back and say check-and-found-no-stock).  I called Los Gatos Photo and
>>they want only $249 (no stock, one or 2 week), but, was there some negative
>>story about the shop in the past?  (OK, I will stay away from SJ Photo).
>>LZ Premium don't have stock and do not know when it will come in.
> 
> Los Gatos Photo is a fine reputable place.  I've bought stuff there.
> If they are cheaper than CWoO, snap it up.
> 
>>It has been a while (to put it mildly) since I did wedding, anybody care
>>to review all the old tricks?
>> 
>>I have a 24-50Nikkor AF and a 80-200Nikkor ED AF, wonder if using the
>>24-50 most of the time is wise?  I also have access to a 35-70/3.3-4.5
>>Nikkor AF, but assume that it is in a different class than the 24-50,
>>is that right?  If so, should I consider using it at all?  Or should I just
>>dump them all and use the 80-200 all the time togather with my FM2n with 
>>28/2.8 Nikkor MF?  In that case, then I probably need another flash, or maybe 
>>do "natural" light for the wide-angle? 
>>
>>Any help is appreciated. 
> 
> Right about the flash.  The SB-24 will work with any camera, but what
> you are paying for is a computer communication link with the an 8008
> or F4 body.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have a F4s (and MF23 and MC-12a too!).
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