HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis)
Subject: Re: Continued Decline of Western Civilization -- Canadian Style
Organization: York University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:16:49 GMT

Kevin Andrew Buhr (buhr@umanitoba.ca) writes:
> [Some stuff about a Rev. James's letter to the Winnipeg Free Press
>  concerning "adult" video stores and a "serial killer/dead babies"
>  game.]

I'm not sure what you are driving, Mr. Buhr, with your academic-
elitist recondite anti-sophistic sophistry.  Cut the crap.

It seems to me that most Canadians (church-going or otherwise) are
tolerant of simple (non-demeaning, non-exploiting, non-adulterous,
spice-up-the-marriage-bed, etc.) erotica, but are _fed_up_with_sleeze_.
(Let's be honest about it.  There is a considerable industry, with two
wings - (1) the pornographers and (2) the rigidly righteous (Burn's
"Unco Guid"), that has a vested interest in maintaining the confusion
between erotica and sleeze.)

I don't expect lapidary logic from your typical theological graduate,
but, in my fairly extensive experience of them, they do a damn good
job in attempting to counterbalance the moral rot in our society.
And I'm not just talking about sex and violence.

So, continue to flay away at this parochial straw man, glossolalially
exorcising the demon "censorship" and invoking the god of ivory
tower chop-logic, whilst society deteriorates and the confused
morally-middle plots its escapist path.

--
tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada

Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: CAF-News needs editors
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:50:12 GMT

The CAF-News editorial staff has been working hard at clearing the
summer backlog, but we could use help from guest editors.

Short Task Description:

Given a file containing, on average, about 75 CAF-talk articles,
choose the approximately 12 best and paraphrase them.

Task Requirements: Email access to me (kadie@eff.org)

Things that make the jobs easier:
  Being able to run "nn" and "perl".

Compensation: You will be listed as editor for the issue you edit.
Regular editors will also get a title ("Associate Editor") and will be
put on the CAF administrative mailing list.

Also, you will have the satisfaction of doing something useful and
maybe even important. CAF-News has an estimated readership of 13000.
Its abstract is distributed to at least twice as many and is important
to the CAF archive.

If interested, send me email.

- Carl
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Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [comp.admin.policy]  Re: New Princeton Policy
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:01:18 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
Subject:  Re: New Princeton Policy
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:31:37 GMT

At the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, screen locking is
not a problem because of watchdog, a program that logs out inactive
accounts, locked screen or not.  During long file transfers you are 
placed in an exception file that cannot be altered by hand....
ie, if someone tries to put themselves in the file, they don't get
the 'benefits'.  During my stay there this seemed like an effective
compromise.  If you wanted a dawg program for yourself, a fairly
simple way to implement it is to stat your tty for activity.  I haven't
tried this on xterms, but it ought to work.

Tom Wilson
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From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [comp.admin.policy]  Re: New Princeton Policy
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:27:53 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject:  Re: New Princeton Policy
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:37:26 GMT

Olaf> == Olaf Titz <S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de> 

 Princeton> 8.  You must not prevent others from using shared resources
 Princeton> by running unattended processes or placing signs on devices
 Princeton> to "reserve" them without authorization. Your absence from a
 Princeton> public computer or workstation should be no longer than
 Princeton> warranted by a visit to the nearest restroom. A device
 Princeton> unattended for more than ten minutes may be assumed to be
 Princeton> available for use, and any process running on that device
 Princeton> terminated. You must not lock a workstation or computer
 Princeton> which is in a public facility.

 Olaf> This means: 'If you must go to the restroom you HAVE to leave the
 Olaf> terminal open, so that other users can terminate your session if
 Olaf> they need the machine.' This is IMO simply unacceptable. Other
 Olaf> policies would REQUIRE to lock the terminal to prevent tampering
 Olaf> with your account.

MIT's Athena workstation policy is that you can lock it for no more than
20 minutes before someone can feel free to reboot it or otherwise
"forcibly unlock" it.  The "standard" screenlocker has a displayed timer
of "how long I've been locked".

Perhaps Princeton could provide a similar one with a button (cleaner
than a reboot, especially since MIT Athena workstation can't have rlogin
users ;-) that would only appear after N minutes, saying "break lock and
kill X server".  This would protect accounts while keeping workstation
resources available.
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From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [alt.censorship, et al.]  Re: U. of Wisconsin drops hate speech rule
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship,soc.college
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:23:07 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: alt.censorship,soc.college
From: bone@luciano.Stanford.EDU (Douglas J. Bone)
Subject:  Re: U. of Wisconsin drops hate speech rule
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:47:01 GMT

After the UWM Post v. UWM Decision, I wrote a bill in the Student
Senate at Stanford calling for a review of our Grey Interpretation
of the Fundamental Standard.  Written a few years ago by Law Prof
Thomas Grey, this document is essentially a speech code modifying
the Fundamental Standard of Student COnduct, which basically says
be nice and don't cheat.  The Senate passed the bill (11-10).  A
referendum on the Spring ballot on the matter saw a plurality of
students agree that the Grey Interpretation should be rescinded.

Three students (I am one) were elected to three positions on the
relevant board that adopts such policies all running on anti-speech-code
platforms.  The RAV v St. Paul decision has obviously added impetus
to the movement to repeal the code, but I thought it interesting
that the Wisconsin decision basically started the effort by some of
us at Stanford to repeal our speech code.
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From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: U. of Wisconsin drops hate speech rule
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:49:50 GMT

According to a story in the Sept. 12, 1992 Chicago Tribune (p. 4 of
the Final Midwest Editon):

'The University of Wisconsin's board of regents on Friday repealled a
"hate speech" rule that banned discriminatory language directed at
individuals on campus. The regents voted 10-6 to repeal the rule,
adopted after an earlier policy was determined unconstitutional by a
federal judge.'

- Carl

ANNOTATED REFERENCES

(All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)

=================
law/uwm-post-v-u-of-wisconsin
=================
The full text of UWM POST v. U. of Wisconsin. This recent district
court ruling goes into detail about the difference between protected
offensive expression and illegal harassment. It even mentions email.

It concludes: "The founding fathers of this nation produced a
remarkable document in the Constitution but it was ratified only with
the promise of the Bill of Rights.  The First Amendment is central to
our concept of freedom.  The God-given "unalienable rights" that the
infant nation rallied to in the Declaration of Independence can be
preserved only if their application is rigorously analyzed.

The problems of bigotry and discrimination sought to be addressed here
are real and truly corrosive of the educational environment.  But
freedom of speech is almost absolute in our land and the only
restriction the fighting words doctrine can abide is that based on the
fear of violent reaction.  Content-based prohibitions such as that in
the UW Rule, however well intended, simply cannot survive the
screening which our Constitution demands."


=================
=================

These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):

  pub/academic/law/uwm-post-v-u-of-wisconsin

To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
name):

send acad-freedom/law uwm-post-v-u-of-wisconsin
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Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: NEELY_MP@DARWIN.NTU.EDU.AU (Mark P. Neely, Northern Territory University)
Subject: Re: books with disks
Originator: daemon@eff.org
Organization: EFF mail-news gateway
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:39:43 GMT

>From: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney)

>ABOZE@VMA.CC.ND.EDU says:
>> ...
>> 3)  This is not strictly related to copyright, but maybe someone can help.
>> Along with the copyright reminder, we want to include a disclaimer with
>> the circulating disks.  We do not check the disks for viruses or for
>> damage or changes to any of the files by other users.  We want to let
>> borrowers know this, and to state that we will not be held responsible
>> for any damage caused by the use of the disk.  My question is: can we
>> be held responsible for anything, even if we disclaim responsibility?
>
>If someone checks out a record or tape and it has been boobietrapped (sp?)
>to damage the person's player, would your library have any liability?
>Are you expected to clean and look-over every record or tape loaned out?

No, but you or any such institution which may "reasonably expect" others to
depend upon/use their services may not act with reckless disregard in 
relation to the provision of such services.

>Glenn Tenney AA6ER

Mark N.

                    Mark Neely  neely_mp@darwin.ntu.edu.au
    	Articled Clerk & Tutor - Law School, NTU, Darwin NT Australia
DISCLAIMER: The views expressed herein are my own. They do not reflect the views
of my firm nor those of the University. Unless otherwise indicated, the contents
are not a formal legal opinion or advice.

Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: gdsimpso@unix.amherst.edu (GILBERTO DANIEL SIMPSON)
Subject: Latino E-Mailing List
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:37:37 GMT

 
        Hola Folks,
 
        Me llamo Gilberto y soy el co-chair de La Causa, el grupo Latino de
Amherst College. I am writing to tell people about a computer mailing list
which was started last semester to try to foster communication between Latino
students (as well as other interested people) across the country. The list has
been relatively successful and has over a hundred subscribers around the world.
        People have used it to share information about social/academic events
held on college campuses, scholarship and research opportunities for Latino/
Hispanic students, and current events connected to Latinos, both in the United 
States and in Latin America.
        The intended focus is on issues of concern to Latino students, but
anyone's input or participation is welcome. The membership is diverse and 
includes people of many different nationalities and occupations. Several members
have connections with other Latino organizations and computer networks and so
this list can give its membership access to a wide range of quick, reliable
information.
        If the list continues to grow, it has the potential to create a large
network of students accross the country and facilitate the progress of la raza.
Its strenth depends on an increasing membership who can take advantage of the
possibilities of electronic communication.  
 
        If you are interested in becoming a subscriber to this e-mailing list,
or if you have comments for thelist administrator,  all you have to do is send
a note to the following address:
 
        LATINO-L-REQUEST@AMHERST.EDU 
and say that you want to join.
 
        While you are subscribed, if you want to send a message to the entire 
membership of the list (like a piece of interesting news, a question you might 
have, an announcement that might benefit Latino students etc.) then write to:
 
        LATINO-L@AMHERST.EDU
 
        In case you are not interested, please forward this file to someone who
you think might want to participate; in that way, you can at least help the list
grow and develop.
 
Hasta Pronto
        -Gilberto       

Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: buhr@umanitoba.ca (Kevin Andrew Buhr)
Subject: Re: Continued Decline of Western Civilization -- Canadian Style
Organization: University of Manitoba, Canada
	<1992Sep11.111649.16508@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:09:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.111649.16508@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis) writes:


   Kevin Andrew Buhr (buhr@umanitoba.ca) writes:
   > [Some stuff about a Rev. James's letter to the Winnipeg Free Press
   >  concerning "adult" video stores and a "serial killer/dead babies"
   >  game.]

   I'm not sure what you are driving, Mr. Buhr, with your academic-
   elitist recondite anti-sophistic sophistry.  Cut the crap.
		.
		.
		.
   So, continue to flay away at this parochial straw man, glossolalially
   exorcising the demon "censorship" and invoking the god of ivory
   tower chop-logic, whilst society deteriorates and the confused
   morally-middle plots its escapist path.

Please, call me Kevin.

Kevin Buhr <buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis)
Subject: Re: Intellectual Property Theft...Help.
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:12:10 GMT

Diane Kovacs (DKOVACS@Kentvm.Kent.edu) 
> .. so angry my hands are shaking.

The "fight or flight" reaction.  Appropriately stirring your mind
but also your _body_ (according to ancient biological programming) in a
modern situation which is mainly mental.  Metaphorically, anger =
energy, somatic and psychic.  Exercise off the somatic component (e.g.
long walks); the burning of psychic energy in thinking about the
problem will occur automatically.

> I need advice..badly.  .. someone influential and powerful..is taking
> one of my projects and apparently trying to pass it off as belonging to
> a particularly influential and powerful organization ..

Distinguish between the strategic and tactical.  Allow yourself
tactical emotionality only in private or with those you trust.  As well
as naturally turning to people who are close for emotional comfort,
actively seek out other people who will give you the time to listen and
act as a sounding board and help you move into coolheaded strategic
planning.  Emphasize the objective presentation of the facts as you
know them, separate from the emotional comforting function.

> .. by fighting this I could put my career at risk.

You also need to balance that with considering what you put at risk
by not fighting it.

--
tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada

Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: DKOVACS@Kentvm.Kent.edu (Diane Kovacs)
Subject: Intellectual Property Theft...Help.
Originator: daemon@eff.org
Organization: EFF mail-news gateway
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:25:17 GMT

Well folks ... I am so angry my hands are shaking.  I need advice and
I need it badly.  What do I do when someone influential and powerful
in my profession is taking one of my projects and apparently trying to
pass it off as belonging to a particularly influential and powerful
organization in my profession (names hidden to protect me.).

This person is representing the project as belonging to the organization
because a disk copy was adapted for printing .  When the printing took
place the carefully written description of the selection process and
attribution to original e-sources and network people was deleted.
My copyright statement remains intact.  Yet this person wants to use
the disk copy to give away to people to run as a networked resources without
consulting with me or leaving the copyright statement intact.  I am
disillusioned to say the least.  I am a definite beginner in my profession
and have reason to worry that by fighting this I could put my career at risk.,
      dkovacs@kentvm.kent.edu
Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship,alt.politics.correct,soc.college
Subject: [UPI] SFA free speech flap settled
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:37:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

Copyright 1992 by UPI.  Reposted with permission from the ClariNet
Electronic Newspaper newsgroup clari.local.texas. For more info on
ClariNet, write to info@clarinet.com or phone 1-800-USE-NETS.

	DALLAS (UPI) -- Conservative students at Stephen F. Austin University
and school officials have apparently reached a settlement in a free
speech dispute that stemmed from fliers the group posted a year ago.
	Young Conservatives of Texas hung fliers featuring a startling quote
>from former Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater. It read, ``SEX and politics
are a lot alike. You don't have to be good at them to enjoy them.''
	Officials at the Nacogdoches school called the fliers sexist and
tried to bar the group from posting them. But two Young Conservatives
members, Michael Bartlow and Guy Hatch, hung the fliers anyway. They
said the school's policy was a violation of their First Amendment rights
by requiring
	Joe Cook, regional director of the American Civil Liberties Union,
said an undetermined amount of money is included in the settlement.
	With the help of the ACLU, a favorite target of conservative attacks,
the students filed a federal lawsuit May 15, asking that the SFA sign-
posting policy be overturned.
	Cook said, ``It's a significant free-speech case.'' He said that
under the policy, students were not allowed to post anything without
permission.
	SFA general counsel Yvette Clark said the new policy agreed to under
the settlement would allow the poster that started the controversy.
	The new policy, acceptable under First Amendment law as 'time, place
and manner`` restrictions, allows school officials to regulate how large
posters can be and where they are placed. It also says posters must show
the group's name, telephone number and contact person.
	But the school may take down a sign that the president deems will
incite fights or ``imminent lawlessness'' - concepts defined strictly by
federal courts.



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Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.censorship,soc.college
From: Algirdas.Pakstas@idt.unit.no
Subject: Lectures on Computer Technologies and Networking in Baltic Countries
Originator: daemon@eff.org
Organization: EFF mail-news gateway
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:04:31 GMT

Dear Colleagues,

Let us we will introduce ourselvs. We are computer scientists from
Vilnius, Lithuania (temporary staying in Trondheim, Norway). We both
are working in the Institute of Mathematics and Informatics of the
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences.  Main research topics are software
engineening for distributed computer systems, methods and tools for
development of distributed software configurations, networking, formal
methods, simulation of message passing systems.

We are going to visit USA in September-October, 1992 for conference.
We also are interested to visit american Universities and give some
lectures about our research results and more general lectures about
Computer Technologies and Networking in Baltic Countries.

Please, let us know if your organizations are interested in such
subjects and can be partial sponsors for our visit at least inside USA
(unfortunately, our host institute in Norway can't to provide full
funding). Our CVs and abstracts of possible lectures are available on
request.

Please, reply ASAP by e-mail or by FAX. Our address:

	Dr.Algirdas Pakstas / Sonata Pakstiene
	Division of Computer Systems and Telematics (IDT)
	The Norwegian Institute of Technology (NTH)
	The University of Trondheim (UNIT)
	N-7034 TRONDHEIM
	Norway

	PHONE: +47-7-594460 (secr.) or +47-7-594485 (direct in office);
	FAX  : +47-7-594466; 
	TELEX: 55637 NTHAD.N
	Email: Algirdas.Pakstas@idt.unit.no

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

Algirdas Pakstas, Dr., Senior Scientific Staff
Sonata Pakstiene, Junior Scientific Staff

Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [comp.admin.policy]  Re: New Princeton Policy
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:51:43 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: jaw@owlnet.rice.edu (Joseph A. Watters)
Subject:  Re: New Princeton Policy
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:21:33 GMT

In article <CKD.92Sep9143724@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
|>  Olaf> This means: 'If you must go to the restroom you HAVE to leave the
|>  Olaf> terminal open, so that other users can terminate your session if
|>  Olaf> they need the machine.' This is IMO simply unacceptable. Other
|>  Olaf> policies would REQUIRE to lock the terminal to prevent tampering
|>  Olaf> with your account.
|> 
|> MIT's Athena workstation policy is that you can lock it for no more than
|> 20 minutes before someone can feel free to reboot it or otherwise
|> "forcibly unlock" it.  The "standard" screenlocker has a displayed timer
|> of "how long I've been locked".
|> 
|> Perhaps Princeton could provide a similar one with a button (cleaner
|> than a reboot, especially since MIT Athena workstation can't have rlogin
|> users ;-) that would only appear after N minutes, saying "break lock and
|> kill X server".  This would protect accounts while keeping workstation
|> resources available.

At Rice, we have an X windows lockscreen program with a twenty minute
timer.  After twenty minutes, the lockscreen itself logs the user out.
The logout is pretty clean.  The only thing we haven't solved yet is
how to get the user's .logout file to be read on logout by the
lockscreen program.

-- 
Joseph A. Watters, Jr.		jaw@owlnet.rice.edu
Deputy Director, Owlnet
Rice University
Houston, Texas
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