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From: lyle@utkvx3.utk.edu (Bradley S. Lyle)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:31:00 GMT



	   Can we please just get on with our lives and drop this ?



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From: plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner X-reference List
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:22:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Peter Laws <plaws@uafhp.uark.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

So here's my idea:  Help me create a "cross reference" list for all the
different brands for Bob Parnass to include in his updated scanner FAQ. 

-----You *are* updating it, aren't you Bob? 8-)----- 

I've started it, but this is all I can remember off hand.  Email additions
to either address in the .sig .
 
I didn't include AOR, Icom, etc. because they don't seem to get cross
branded as often.  Actual manufacturer might be nice to include, but how
to keep it to 80 columns? 


Bearcat     Regency      Radio Shack    Cobra        Notes

BC50XLT     R40??        Pro-?          SR10(?)      aka BC55XLT
BC100XLT    R4010        Pro-?          
BC200XLT    R4020                                    aka BC205XLT


Peter Laws,
Associate Editor, 
RCMA _Journal_

Peter Laws              |"The '90s are gonna make the'60s |plaws@uafhp.uark.edu
n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam| look like the '50s"--D. Hopper  |plaws@uafsysb.bitnet
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ** THE FUTURE OF SCANNING? **
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:35:03 GMT
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA

Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov13.234043.24988@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
]john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
]
]>the cell site and someone else. Furthermore, if they use encryption similar
]>to that used by the VideoCipher-II, GOOD LUCK trying to unscramble it.
]
]VideoCipher-II is now so compromised that new codes are sent out
]monthly just to make more work for the pirates.

There is nothing wrong with the VC-II encryption. The problem is with how the
boxes are implemented. It would be easy to use similar encryption technology
with cell phones without them being easy to compromise. For example, using
THE SAME technology but a unique key per phone would be enough to defeat
interception.

As far as I know, VC-II encryption has never been broken. What has been done
is that people have:
  (1) modified the PROMS on the control CPU in order to change the
      tier priviledges (Musketeer chip)
  (2) modified the crypto chip to clone the ID of a valid unit into a whole
      fleet of pirate units. Notice that this requires a significant
      conspiracy.... J Random hacker isn't going to do this. With cell
      phones, you would have to clone the crypto ID of the unit you wanted
      to monitor, but how would you get the ID (hint: in a well designed
      system it would never be broadcast)
  (3) Used the unbonded test lead on the crypto chip to extract intermediate
      crypto data. Modify pirate units to take this info which enables them
      to unscramble the intercepted channels (I am not clear if they are
      able to get the monthly master keys this way or not). Again, no reason
      for this to work on cell phones.

Let's face it, the economics of hacking VC-II's, and the fact that each
broadcast that could be monitored has millions of possible customers make
it far different from cell phones - even assuming that the cell phone people
are stupid enough to duplicate the failures of the VC-II.

-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
This is a newer version of the memetic .signature infection.  Now that's an
idea.  Copy it into your .signature today!
From: gregs@hotcity.COM (Greg Stramback)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re:    AR-2500
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:45:44 GMT
Organization: BBS

not sure if i'm on the right one or not, but if i remember correctly, the unit
was a very cheap one and if one was to open it up, they would find only a
broadband pre-amp and the processor chip, with little or no filtering or
selectivity circuitry.  
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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Back to best radio transmissions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:48:28 GMT

>> In article <1992Nov13.011605.7235@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>> >Any favorite slang used by the police in your area?

I have heard that in the late 1960s the police in Oakland, California 
(a largely black city near Berkeley with a largely white police force) 
used the acronym TNA to refer to acts of domestic violence, disorderly conduct,
etc.  Apparently, they were pressured to drop the use of the acronym when it 
became widely known that it stood for "Typical Nigger Activity".   This 
is only second hand; can any one confirm or deny?

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From: kenlager@pro-berks.cts.com (Kenneth P. Lager Jr.)
Subject: Re: Sears Garage Door Openers
Organization: Pro-Berks Inc.-Reading,Pa..The EMS Specialists..BBS..(215)929-4315
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:26:26 EST

cet1@cec2.wustl.edu (Chuck Turco) writes:

>I have a Sears Brand garage door opener transmitter, and would
>like to find its frequency on my scanner (BC 100XLT).
>
>Does anyone know an approximate frequency range I could search?
>
>Or are the garage door opener units outside the frequency range
>of the scanner?
>
>Thanks,
>Chuck


                                WHY???????


ProLine:  kenlager@pro-berks
Internet: kenlager@pro-berks.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-berks!kenlager
From: adam@cbmcats.UUCP (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REPOST: WANTED, BC200XLT for friend.
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:59:23 GMT
Organization: Commodore Applications and Technical Support
Summary: Damark has it for $200+

In article <1992Nov17.183419.26417@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
>I lost the list of people from last time (sorry), if you have
>a BC 200 XLT (or know where to get one for a good price) let me know.
>My friend Dan would like one, and I'm sure as hell not going to give him MINE.

I noticed that the Damark catalog has the BC200XLT for $199.  These may be reconditioned
units, and there is usually an abnormally high shipping and handling fee tacked on to
Damark items.  Damark's phone number is 800.729-9000.


Disclaimer: I hate Damark.
Adam Levin-Delson  CATS - Commodore Applications and Technical Support
UUCP: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!adam domain: adam@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com
BIX: aklevin   mail: 1200 Wilson Drive / West Chester, PA 19380 USA
voice: +1 215.431-9180   fax: +1 215.429-0643
From: 6500hage@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (William F. Hagen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Baby Monitors/Cordless Phones
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:10:37 GMT
Distribution: na


superglue the antenna to your forehead, then you wont have
to worry about it falling off during one of those important
baby monitor transmissions.

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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Sears Garage Door Openers
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.220732.2338@wuecl.wustl.edu> cet1@cec2.wustl.edu (Chuck Turco) writes:
+I have a Sears Brand garage door opener transmitter, and would
+like to find its frequency on my scanner (BC 100XLT).

Don't bother.  They are boring to listen to and never send QSL cards.
____________________________________________________________________________
Sorry, but I sent my .sig file out for a cleaning, so I have
nothing clever to say today.
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            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
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From: toddwall@rock.concert.net (R. Todd Wall -- Catholic Diocese of Raleigh -- Computer Services)
Subject: Any mods for a Regency HX-1500?
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:08:20 GMT

	Does anyone know if it is possible to ....

	#1) Add more channels to a Regency HX-1500 (55 Channel) Scanner?

	#2) Get it to pick up the 800 mhz band??



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     / ______/ __/   / / / __.  // //        kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
   _/ (_) (_/_(_/_  (_(_/ (_/|_</_</         gentleness and self-control."
From: davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Sears Garage Door Openers
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:38:04 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Nov14.220732.2338@wuecl.wustl.edu>, cet1@cec2.wustl.edu (Chuck
Turco) writes:
>I have a Sears Brand garage door opener transmitter, and would
>like to find its frequency on my scanner (BC 100XLT).
>
>Does anyone know an approximate frequency range I could search?
>
>Or are the garage door opener units outside the frequency range
>of the scanner?
>

Try 290 to 320 MHz.  Although you will not hear anything but a slight hum with
the "digital" pulses.

Dave, This  T E S T  BBS, 408-847-5251
Xref: sparky alt.radio.scanner:2914 sci.electronics:19271
From: re_sims@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,sci.electronics
Subject: wanted:  mods for Bearcat 300, cover 27-54?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:54:58 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College


I am looking for mods that
will allow my Bearcat 300
to pick up more frequencies.

does anyone know of any?

thanks in advance

Jim Sims sr.
re_sims@vax.muskingum.edu
From: davea@hotcity.COM (Dave Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Can't listen to mobile CHP units
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:28:43 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1ecmtdINNohq@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie
Maycon) writes:
>Does any body in the Bay Area have a hard time finding mobile CHP units on-
>42-42.99, I have never heard no mobile units, the only transmissions I here
>hear is from Dispatch. Does any one have that problem?.
>
>
>Why do I have that problem, all the scanner freqency guides list 42.20, 42.40
et
>c.  Is it true you have to be within 1-2 miles away from the Mobile Unit?
>
>
Try 42.76, 42.74, 42.66, 42.82, 42.28, 42.16, 42.18, 42.08, 42.20.  Yes you do
need to be close to the mobles, but then it also depends upon what antenna you
got.  Also you might try 154.905 the moble extender channel.

Dave, This  T E S T  BBS, 408-847-5251
From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Drive Through Window Frequencies/Shopping Ctr Police
Date: 19 Nov 1992 07:08:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

Does anybody know what frequencies drive through window speaker phone are
located on?

Burger King , Jack in a Box etc


What frequencies do most shopping center police/security department 
operate on?


What is the maximum range on a scanner 29-956MHZ
From: john@newave.newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What's CTCSS?
Date: 15 Nov 92 11:51:40 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In article <1992Nov13.232600.16323@mips2.ma30.bull.com> stonier@fhr.ma30.bull.com (Jim Stonier) writes:
> I've just gotten a BC760XLT and have a few questions:  They talk about a
> CTCSS tone board that can be added.  What is this for?

CTCSS stands for Continious Tone Coded Squelch System.  This is a genaric
name for one of the methods that allows a number of two-way radio systems
to share the same channel without listening to each other.  This is done
by having each radio transmit a tone in the range of 60-220Hz.  All 
radios then mute their speaker until the correct tone is heard.  Motorola
calls this Private Line, GE calls it Channel Gaurd, and RCA called it
Quiet Channel.  There are other methods besides CTCSS, including a burst
tone (remember the beeps in the Apollo spacecraft radio transmissions?)
and DPL (a digital code is used in place of the tone).

While I haven't a clue how your scanner works, I suspect that this board
will allow you to program in a tone so you can listen to something like
your local police without hearing other chatter on the channel.  If the
board is really smart, it will allow you to program a different tone
for each scanner channel.

-john-

-- 
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John A. Weeks III		(612) 942-6969		    john@newave.mn.org
Newave Communications, Ltd.			    ..!uunet!tcnet!newave!john
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From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Re: What's your tattle level?
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:56:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.174616.5147@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:
>: 
>: I am a HAM operator, so I don't like being told what I can and can't
>: listen to. Nonetheless I respect this legislation in the *spirit* in
>: which it was drafted - that of protecting YOUR right to communicate
>: via telephone without the police (or some hi-tech busybody) snooping
>: your calls without proper authority. Listening in may seem harmless,
>: but it's as illegal as selling drugs and as immoral as tapping your
>: neighbors landline.
>
>I cannot agree. The signal is being transmitted. If you want it to be
>kept secret, then scramble the signal.
>
Don't get me wrong... I am a scanner enthusiast of the highest degree,
so I wouldn't discuss anything confidential via cellular phone. Yet the
vast majority of citizens in this country don't realize that many toll
and long distance calls are being transmitted via radio links. Whether
by satellite or by microwave, there are people with the smarts and
equipment to de-multiplex and listen to these channels. By your standard
these transmissions are fair game because they are not encrypted.

The law was designed primarily to protect YOU from being monitored by
law enforcement agencies without a hard to obtain wiretap order. The
scanner user community is their own worst enemy in this regard. Calling
national media attention to the fact that cellular is easily monitored
is really stupid and does more to hurt the image of the radio enthusiast
than anything else. Are we a bunch of busybodies who want to eavesdrop
on phone calls? Maybe we're only creeps who get off listening to the
neighbors' baby monitor? (That's legal...) Sorry, I find your position
indefensible and so do the majority of lawmakers (who tend to use
cellular more than almost anyone).
- Mike

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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: What's your tattle level?
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:03:42 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov15.104142.13147@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
>: 
>: ]Large drug buy/sell - Y
>: ]Huge  drug buy/sell - Y
>: ]Child taken by non-custodial parent - N
>: ]
>: ]More importantly, how do you define the line between what you would
>: ]report and what you would not?
>: 
>: In general, if what is planned is theft or related to violence -
>: ie something which violates individual rights.
>
>So, how do the first two violate individual rights, theft or violence?
It's simple. In today's drug prohibition world (which, by the way, I
disagree with), a neighbor involved in a large drug buy/sell is involved
in organized crime, and probably violent. I don't want such a neighbor.
It has nothing to do with the moral rightness of prohibitting such drugs.

>Why does the third not violate individual rights - such as the rights
>of the child or the custodial parent? 

It would be very hard to determine that from a scanner. That's why I
wouldn't call it in.
>
>Bill
>
>:  - - Support ALL of the bill of rights, INCLUDING the 2nd amendment! - -
>
>Don't be a hypocrite, John.
>
>Support ALL the bill of rights, including the right to be secure in your
>life and property - unless removed by due course of law. Fight civil
>forfeiture - which violates this right. Support the right to use drugs
>and to have an abortion. 

Get a clue. You have decided I am a hypocrit after asking why I
would call certain things in, but without waiting for my answer. Very
presumptuous of you, I would say. Do you think I am in favor of
civil forfeiture? How could you from my post? I do not believe that
the right to use drugs is in the constitution but I do believe it is
a natural right. I don't hold that there is an inalieable right to
have an abortion because I am willing to at least consider the possibility
that a fetus might also have rights!

[Please, let's not get into an abortion fight here]

I really resent how you take a simple statement of mine and decide that
you know the logic behind it and that therefore I am a hypocrit.

With an attitude like yours, I would be afraid to have you scanning my calls,
because you would hear something innocent, assume something bad, and do
something about it. Get a life!

]Most of all, work towards requiring people to take responsibility for
]their own actions, instead of the government deciding what is morally
]right or wrong for you. Support the right of people to decide how they
]run their own lives, as long as they do not endanger others in the
]process.

What the hell did you think I said up there, Bill?


-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
- - "May you have the wealth of a Republican, and the sexual prowess - -
- -  of a Democrat." - Johnny Carson's joke writers
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 2006
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:16:16 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

>   I have some questions about the Pro-2006 from Radio Shack.  Over the
>weekend I asked more than one Radio Shack salesman about modifactions
>and they all gave me the same response; the "NEW" 2006s can't be modified
>to receive cellular frequencies.  I didn't believe them one bit.  Figured
>it's just a plan by the Tandy bigshots to make their scanners look innocent
>in the recent FCC hype over cellular action.  So to see for myself, I
>bought one.  First thing I did was open it up and check for the two glass
>diodes behind the number 3 on the keypad.  THEY'RE THERE!  Does this mean
>the scanner is definitely modifible?  Has anyone purchased a 2006 in the
>last month and successfully restored cellular on it?  The scanner is
>awesome compared to the BC200xlt I was using.  But if it can't be modified,
>I may not keep it.  If you think a private response is more appropriate in
>this situation,  E-Mail me at:  ceravolo@icarus.montclair.edu.  In fact,
>I'd prefer private responses.
>
>Thanks,
>Jim C.

That's funny Jim!  It doesn't surprise me a bit!

Sounds like the usual bulls**t that RS salesdroids dish out.  I would go ahead
and perform the mod (that is if you want the cell band).  I'm sure the 2006 you
got is no different than the one I got about 2 months ago.

In other words, I wouldn't hesitate doing it.

BTW:  I was at a RS in Florida once looking at scanners, and asked salesdroid
about listening to cordless phones.  He showed me a scanner that he claimed
that you would need 48 or so scanners all set at different freqs to listen to
the conversation at once.  Well, being new to scanners (and to radio for that
matter) I was amazed, yet wary at the same time (just as you are know).  Yeah
right, spread spectrum technology in $150 cordless phone???  This was before
their frequency inversion phone came out even!

I'm so glad, you made me remember this, I had to post it!
I would love to return to his store and make him look bad! [ hehe ;-) ]

As Nike would say:  Just do it!

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
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From: ac94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty)
Subject: Re: Unwanted attention!
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:25:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.170421.1@acad.drake.edu> aar001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>	Anyone else have this problem:
>
>		After you post on Alt.Radio.pirate, every hard-on-harry
>	pump-up-the-volume  Wann'a be from your school or area suddenly
>	starts sending you E-mail and asking if they can get involved!
>	
>	It's only slightly annonying, but it draws way too much attention 
>	to a person, Sheeze!

Yes I have this problem with a person from my university.  He's like
this sex pervert who keeps bothering me to fix up a transmitter for
him instead of doing it himself.  =-)  Gee, I can't remember who
this person is.  Can you?

And speaking of publicity, this same guy started telling other 
people to email ME with their pirate radio questions!!!  I had
to spend about an hour back and forth in email telling some guy
where to find the FAQ.

Maybe I'll eventually get around to returning this guys transmitter,
maybe it'll even be modified.  Unless my courses next semester are
too nasty, then he'll get back what he gave me.  ;-)

Anyway, I've not had the problem with generating too much publicity
on my own.  Maybe I'm just not the popular social sort.  Hmmm....

The guy who's on the best radio on television,

Anthony - KDRK Drake University


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