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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:28:49 EST
From:         Patrick=Smoker%Admin%Ag@ADMIN.AGAD.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:      New info on the 3Com 3c509

I've been trying to get 3c509 to work with VINES 5.0(6) and PC/TCP v2.11 for
days.  After reading all the info from all of you, and doing some
experimenting on my own, this is what I've learned.

First, the 3c509 card can run in ISA or EISA mode.

When configured in EISA mode the card will work with the CSIBAN packet driver
or NDIS.  Using CSIBAN and the 3c509f driver, it runs both VINES and PC/TCP
side by side flawlessly except that the card becomes 300% slower than the
3c503TP-16 in the same machine.  I tested it by coping a large test file from
the server to my local drive.  Then I imediately copied it again so that the
file contents would be in server cache memory and timed it.  Using this
method, A 3mb file that copied in 8 seconds using a 3c503 took 23 seconds
using the 3c509.  I don't know why it happens, but it happens every time.

When using the NDIS drivers, the speed actually increases about 15-20% over
the 3c503, but PC/TCP will not run with the Ebanyan version of the software.
So, I then loaded the dis_pkt.qup and used the generic ethdrv PC/TCP kernel.
This config allowed PC/TCP to run with the NDIS driver, but still 300%
slower.  (makes sense given that the dis_pkt.qup driver is an ndis to packet
driver converter).

In addition, I have not been able to get the 3c509f packet driver  to work
configured as an ISA card in an EISA machine. The driver returns "3c509 not
found".  However, the same card configured as an ISA card using NDIS drivers
work every time.  In an ISA machine, the card works fine using NDIS or packet
drivers,  but the same problems with speed occur when configured with CSIBAN
and the 3c509f driver (300% slower).


Based on results so far, it seems the 3c509 card isn't worth the trouble.  Is
anyone else experiencing this?  Any input invited.  Thank ya much!

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From: jabusch@cecer.army.mil (John Jabusch)
Subject: Mail, file service problems w/ 5.00(5)
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:16:04 GMT

We appear to be having some really strange difficulties with a
server running 5.00(5).  Symptoms:

Console messages displaying:  VRemove: error 2 from remove_names

Mail service mysteriously shuts down, requires reboot.

Typically one file is trashed (could be any kind of file).
The file's ARLs are normally trashed, with access provided only to
users in an unrelated group or some other such thing (done during file
creation/updating/writing processes).

Typically the trashed file will contain unpredictable data, seemingly
mail messages passed through the SMTP gateway (v 1.20) residing on the
same server.  The REALLY strange thing is that codes typical of a 
VINES mail message body file name (like 7037d899.a) show up just before
the mail message does in the file.

Everytime the file is accessed, its contents are changed.  If you
perform a "type trashedfilename.ext" three times, the results are not
necessarily the same.

This seems to indicate a conflict between mail and file services, or
perhaps caching problems. 

Rebooting the mail service, file service, and server has little effect.
This problem is intermittent, and difficult to duplicate.  However, it
is happening to enough people with sufficient regularity to warrant a
plea for assistance.

This, by the way, is happening at the local PBS station on their computers.
I have scanned all the log files without any real success at this point,
and will read over them again.  There are a lot of strange messages, but
nothing which seems related.

Any ideas?

-john

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From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Remote mail

>I seem to remember a 3rd party product that focused on remote mail for
>VINES. Initially, the product would create a copy of the STDA database
>on a laptop. Thereafter, the user (disconnected from VINES) could create
>mail just as if he were online. Whenever the user dialed in, mail from
>him would be sent, while mail waiting for him would be downloaded. Thus,
>all mail activity requiring user action could be done offline. Does anyone
>know anything about such a product?

>John Krogh

Zoom Mail from ZoomIt. (Or something like that.)  They are based in Canada,
Toronto I believe.

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Subject: Re: Passwords - Why Bother (more)
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:48:14 GMT
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Rob,

Please note that I did say "My gut feeling".  This is not a generalization.
I know messages on this list are frequently passed around to high level people
at Banyan.  It seems to me (oh-oh, here comes an opinion <G>), that there is
great potential for Banyan to receive a lot of bad publicity with an event
such as this.  If I were in Banyan's shoes, I would want to mitigate any
possible damage to my credibility.  The way to do that is own up if there is a
problem and if there isn't, then categorically deny that a problem exists.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:55:12 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Hypothetical Query

Please answer ASAP.  There are three Y/N questions.  Please do
them even if you don't have time to explain them in 4 and 5.


This is a hypthetical question I ask at most of my speeches.

Imagine that the whole world is represented by a single block.
Everyone one that block makes $10,000 per year, except $20,000
by one person on a corner.

One of the $10,000-a-year people comes up with an idea to make
an extra $10,000 per year for everyone on the block, and needs
the cooperation of the person on the corner, who will not lose
anything by cooperating and will also get $10,000 more as will
everyone else.

[This is hypothetical. . .there is no inflation, all effort by
the corner person is exactly repaid, and everyone will get the
$10,000 per year increase with equal buying power.)

Now. . .given all that. . .I want you to answer these:

1.  Will the person on the corner cooperate?
2.  Can you understand how that person could chose otherwise?
3.  Would you cooperate if you were the corner person?
4.  Why would the corner person cooperate?
5.  Why not?

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu

COPYRIGHT 1993 PROF. MICHAEL S. HART, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
THIS MESSAGE MAY NOT BE COPIED WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:27:25 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Thomas Paine

Will those who have or who are working on any works by Thomas Paine,
please let me know?

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:44 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Zmodem

I am trying to download large files.

Kermit cannot restart when a crash occurs.

Zmodem will, but since it does not send ACKs, the other end times out
at the terminal server level.

Tried zmax200 but it crashes and never starts.

Sending from a NeXT receiving via DOS.

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:24:38 CST
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      communist manifesto

I was sure I had a copy here somewhere, but can't seem to find it.
Can someone send me a copy?
Happy New Year!

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:28:17 CST
From:         Mike Newman <PB5840@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU>
Subject: Guide Book to Excellence: A Directory of Federal Facilities for
              Resources in Math & Science Information

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am seeking references to

    Guide Book to Excellence:  A Directory of Federal Facilites for Resources
    in Math & Science Information

I have only this title... any leads would be appreciated.

Mike Newman                                 BITNET:    PB5840@UTKVM1
The University of Tennessee                 Internet:  PB5840@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU
Computing Center                            Phone:     (615) 974-6755
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From: kclelan1@cc.swarthmore.edu (kate cleland)
Subject: Accords signed by FMLN-UN Jan '92
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:01:43 GMT

The UN voice mailboxes are full; Public Inquiry's message says "Call back
tomorrow," and I need to know how to get a copy of the actual FMLN (El
Salvador) document (peace accord) signed on or about Jan 14 or 15 '92 in
Mexico under UN auspices.   We don't have the UN index on CD here, and it
maybe days before I can go to another site to use one.

	Thanks.

	Kate Cleland
	Soc. Sci.
Librarian
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:38:47 CST
From:         ROAKLEY%GUVAX.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: More News From the Congress

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Friends--
  A couple of people have posted here letters from Wendell Ford saying
that the proposed cuts have been delayed for further study.

  Although that is what we had hoped would happen, according to people
at GPO it is not correct.  They are planning to reduce the level of
the cuts somewhat, but the basic program, including the serial set and
the "voluntary" reductions from the survey are apparently proceeding
as planned.

  Again, it appears to me that the only solution is to secure a
directive (and supplemental money) from JCP.  Short of that, the
changes are already being made.

Bob

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  Robert L. Oakley (Bob)            PHONE:      (202) 662-9160
  Georgetown Univ. Law Library      FAX:        (202) 662-9202
  111 G Street, N.W.                BITNET:     ROAKLEY@GUVAX.BITNET
  Washington, D.C.  20001           INTERNET:   ROAKLEY@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:30:54 CST
From:         DRISCOLL@VAX.LSE.AC.UK
Subject:      GEOGRAPHIC RESEARCH STUDY

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Can anyone in GovDoc land help me please? I can find no trace of the
following title in our sources-

_National maritime claims:1958-1985_. US Dept of State, Office of the
Geographer, Geographic Research Study no 20-21, October 1985.

A user here needs to obtain a copy. I cannot even identify the series.

Thanks in anticipation....
Paddy Driscoll
British Library of Political and Economic Science
London School of Economics
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Subject:      Re: SuDoc form changes

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
        We wondered the same thing: why does the shipping list have
SuDoc numbers in all caps?  This doesn't match the List of Classes
or the Monthly Catalog.
        However, we noticed in our new batch of OCLC GovDoc shelflist
cards that the SuDoc is also all caps.   Even the usual PrEx is given
as PREX.

Diane Calvin
Government Publications Librarian
A.M. Bracken Library
Ball State University
Muncie, IN  47306
(317) 285-1110
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:06:34 CST
From:         GOV.DOCS%morekypr@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      NO MAIL

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Help, have not received any mail from GPO since Dec. 22!!
Is there any one else in GOV-DOC land looking for mail??
Al (:')..(honest Santa.. I was good ALL year)..
gov.docs@morekypr
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:10:05 CST
From:         Judy <SZ5%NIHCU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      NESE disc problems

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Since I've gotten a couple of questions about our NESE disc problem,
I thought I'd post more details to the list.

I tried the disc on our stand-alone workstation in Tech. Services.
I switched to the E drive, and typed NESE.  The initial screen
displayed, and then there were about 15 carriage returns, so I got
a whole column of "E:\".  When I retyped NESE, the disc worked fine.
I was able to get in and do a search.  I exited the software, went
back to the c drive, then opened and re-closed the drive door.
Then I did the whole thing again, and exactly the same thing
happened.

The reference librarian who sent the disc back to me said that she
was able to get the first two screens, but then it just died.

She's already called Commerce and they're sending us another disc.
I haven't got a CLUE as to what caused this, or what the new disc
will do.  Stay tuned for updates as they occur!  <G>

Judy Schneider
US GAO Library                    "So Many Books ...
sz5@nihcu.bitnet                      So Little Time"
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From:         Judy <SZ5%NIHCU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Questions

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Two questions for all you govdocs-lers:

1. Our November 1992 NESE CDROM is apparently deffective.  Has
anyone else had problems with this, or are we uniquely affected?

2. Does anyone have a copy of the following fiche that we could
borrow to copy?  We claimed, but B&B sent us the wrong thing.  We
need Food for Peace 1987 annual report on PL 480 from USDA.
Item number is 24-T, SuDoc is A 67.44:987 and the shipping list
is 92-2173-M.

Thanks!

Judy Schneider
US GAO Library                    "So Many Books ...
sz5@nihcu.bitnet                      So Little Time"
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From:         Ann Miller <FAC_AMILLER%JMUVAX.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NTDB Prompt

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

An easy way to bring the prompt back to your menu or hard drive is to use
the DOS  CALL  command.  (I didn't figure this out my friendly computer
whiz did.)  I have a batch file that looks like this for my NTDB:

cls   (Clear screen)
run e:  (switch to my CD drive E)
call c.bat  (run the batch file for color monitors)
call 1.bat  (run the batch file which brings up BROWSE)
run c:   (switch back to hard drive)

It's simple and works well.  I always get back to my little menu.

Ann
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From:         ACADMARG%STMARYTX@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Getting from CD drive prompt to menus

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Regarding the question on how to put CDs such as NTDB on a menuing system,
this was a problem for us also. This is solved by trying to find the batch
file which actually calls the program you want to execute.  On the NTDB disk,
the program I generally want to execute is run from the batch file "1.bat"
and the "x.bat" file returns the user to the dos prompt.  Then you write
your own batch files which calls these files to execute the first one and
use the second one to return to the menu.

My batch file for running this part of NTDB on our menuing systems looks like:

@echo off
call 1.bat
call x.bat

and that's all.  I named this batch file "ntcd.bat" and our menu runs this
file when asked for NTDB.  Any program on the disk can have its own batch
file to call it and be placed on the menu.  In one way this is kind of nice, be-
cause some of the things on NTCD are not things we want users to be examining,
like the setup.

If this is not clear enough, please contact me directly as I am not on
this email group.  This question was referred to me by our documents librarian.

 Margaret

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From:         "Margaret S. Walker" <WALKER%FAUVAX@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Missing Pages

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
    Many thank you's for all the responses from the depository
    community for the missing pages in our Science and Technology
    Issues in Coastal Ecotourism.  We've even faxed a copy to our
    regional.  In a coastal community, this is a hot topic.

    By the by, about that extra copy that many of us received of
    Pennsylvania's 1990 Census of Population and Housing Summary
    Social, Economic, and Housing Characteristics (1990 CPH-5-40).
    As far as I can tell, it's not a replacement for a defective copy
    and so, since we don't really need an extra copy of this, is
    there a library in Pennsylvania where I could send it?  This
    brought back a suggestion someone made about those extra copies
    of the Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance that we were
    getting and to give it to a small public or local library that
    didn't have it (which we did).  It won't have the errata booklet.

    Peggy Walker


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From: charvey@teal.csn.org (Chip Harvey)
Subject: Re: using SAS for TIGER files
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
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SAS has algorithms to work with TIGER files.  Upon request, they sent (as
of last year) these to SAS system administrators (or anyone else with the
SAS site #) on diskette.

Chip Harvey
National Park Service, Air Quality Division
(303) 969-2807 (V), (303) 969-2822 (FAX)
charvey@csn.org
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