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From: hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: anonymous posting re: sting operations
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:40:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University


     Following is an anonymous posting.  Please respond via the net
and not e-mail.  Thanks.

---------------------------post begins-----------------------------

If you're thinking of growing marijuana, please read this post
first.  My town's newsweekly, the New Times, just published an
expose about a sting operation in our area.  You might be
interested in the details.

Several months ago, xeroxed posters started showing up around town,
especially near the university, for "Grow Systems."  The fliers
encouraged people to "grow your own...  No lists, no risks to come
back and haunt you later."  Grow Systems sold lighting equipment
for cash, and told buyers "I don't want your name, your address. 
I don't want to know anything about you."

Pretty soon, people who had bought stuff at Grow Systems started to
get raided.  The New Times had some interesting things to say about
the owner, a Mr. Mark MacDonald.

Mr. MacDonald wears one of those electronic ankle bracelets, the
type worn by folks under "house arrest."  MacDonald was convicted
of felony marijuana cultivation in 1980.  Less than a year ago, and
one year after starting Grow Systems, he was involved in a head-on
traffic accident that was fatal to the driver of the other car and
left MacDonald wheelchair bound.  Court records show his BAC was
.18 and he also tested positive for marijuana and cocaine.

He was convicted of vehicular manslaughter and sentenced to one
year of home imprisonment.  Why only one year for killing someone
while driving drunk?

A letter from his attorney:  "Mr. MacDonald has been an important
resource for local and federal law enforcement.  Given the
sensitive nature of his work I am unable to be more specific at
this time...  This fact also makes it imperative that any jail
sentence imposed be done through electronically monitored house
arrest."

And a letter to the court from MacDonald himself:  "As helpful as
my work has [been] and continues to be, I have made quite a few
enemies.  There have been many threats over the years.  Recently I
have received threats about me doing time in jail.  Safety could
never be guaranteed in any county jail."

There you have it.  A sophisticated finking operation in which a
murderer is set free so that a bunch of pot smokers can be nabbed.

A word to the wise:  If you're going to grow dope, don't buy stuff
from companies set up to sell grow supplies.  You can get
everything you need at your local hardware supply house without
worrying about the folks outside taking down your license plate
number.


---------------------------posting ends--------------------------
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason."
			-- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:55:05 GMT

hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:

>Since USEnet is not US govt property and is indeed not even limited to the US
>the US consitiution has no more bearing on it than that of the USSR or Germany.


Quite true. What is funded by the US government is the software and the
hardware which runs Usenet.  But these are not what makes up Usenet, it's
what the participants write what makes up Usenet.

Now, Peter could still be right: Is there anyone out there whose opinions
are funded by the government? If you are, then have the decency not to 
write against the government, cause they fund you for what you post.
Come to think of it, Peter...


     Ulrich Mayring

       - Ich bin Preistraeger des Salamo Preisausschreibens -

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD: the early days and alcohol
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:58:27 GMT

According to Solomon Snyder in his book "Drugs and the Brain" he claims
that when alcoholics recived the same therapy & attention w/o LSD they
had the same rate of recovery.  It's just a blurb with no citation.
However, Snyder is most decidedly not anti-LSD (read the book -- he gives
a very positive description of his experience with LSD, particularly for
a book published by Scientific American) and my tendency is to trust what
he says...

However, since I know someone that has used LSD to stop abusing alcohol
I know that it does happen sometimes...
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: REWARD: Turn in your neighbor !
Date: 4 Sep 1992 19:04:57 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In alt.drugs, article <65187@cup.portal.com>,
  Amiga@cup.portal.com (Philip Barry Kirschner) writes:
> Your neighbor should not be turned in. WHat ever happened to privacy?.

The point isn't to turn in the neighbor. The point is to give these numbers
so many fake calls that they have to give up on using Nazi methods to find
MJ growers.

> G-d what is this country comming to?.Does anyone have the answers?.

-- 
"I know the answer!  The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!
The answer is twelve?  I think I'm in the wrong building."
		-- Charles Schulz
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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: codeine over-the-counter
Keywords: codeine
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:00:12 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

sorry; this was originally posted as a followup to "Re: Strychnine!  It's all
true!"...............

    In conversation the other night I was told that 'codeine' is an 'over
    the counter' drug in Canada. I suspect that this was in referance to
    some sort of codeine and aspirin. If there's someone who could clearify
    this for me and, if true, tell me in what province(s)/stores I'd
    appreciate it if they'd drop me a note via e-mail at
    whittemore@wfodev.enet.dec.com

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Originator: jon@cyclone
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:02:49 GMT


In article <1992Aug25.211709.12199@amhux2.amherst.edu>, pfcouvar@amhux1.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares) writes:
> pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo) writes:
> >"Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
> >>jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
> >>>
> >>>Are you actually serious?  Is this kind of thing really happening?
> >>>
> >>>I must be having a time warp to the witch hunt era.
> >>
> >>I am quite serious.  I'll leave it to others to point you in the
> >>direction of some good sources explaining this particular piece
> >>of insanity.  However, I'll toss out a little bit of info.
> >
> >maybe people are sensing a loss of support for the WoD and
> >looking for different work. similar to how mj replaced alcohol
> >as the demon target. so the final target of demonization in amerika
> >may be The Demon Himself. that could be interesting.
> >the main political issue of 2000: "are you pro or anti Satan?"
> 
> 	I'm pro-God, and I don't think you should be allowed to discuss
> the merits or even the alternative of satan-loving on a network that is
> partially government-funded.
> 
> -Peter
> 
> pfcouvar@amhux1.amherst.edu

This is joke, right?

If he can't mention Satan in a positive light then perhaps Peter
shouldn't be allowed to mention "God" in the same manner.  Geez.

J. E. Shum, Free Speech Zealot
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: langfod@leela.cs.orst.edu (David Langford)
Subject: Re: Free Catalog with Fun Stuff
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State U. Corvallis, OR
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 07:40:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.035001.28402@muddcs.claremont.edu> cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier) writes:
>
>Also, the one product I would consider ordering (the prices are way high):
>100 marijuana odor tablets ("Break and ignite to create the odor of
>marijuana being smoked!") for $35.  A bit pricey, but you could really have
>creative fun with them.
>-- Chris

For this go to any Pet store and buy "Alfafa Pellets"- used for rodents food.
BUrning this stuff smells just like marijuana (or said the administration
at my high school that this was burned in the chem lab)


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: strychine universe origins
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Distribution: alt.drugs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:09:36 GMT


hey, has anybody else read Hoffman's "child" and noticed the bit about 2
guys are admited to the hospital, one already dead, the other on his way
out, and they say they are both tripping, and the hospital checks the
plastic bag of crystals the dudes bought as L, and finds it to be a bag
full of pure strychnine?

There is no reference in "child" as to where or who or when this
happened, but his remarks that it caused a rather largish media hype
caused me to wonder if this could be one of (or _the_) big-bang
catalists for the strychnine universe.

any comments?

--gaspo.


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From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Yohimbe (MAOI, alpha2 andrenergic antagonist or ??)
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:33:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	The original poster, claiming Yohimbe to be an MAOI,
	cited _Psychedelic Chemistry_ and _Chocolate to Morphine_
	(among others.)  Neither of these texts actually
	state this- I checked.  Weil's Book (Chocolate..) mentions
	stimulant effects. _Psychedelic Chemistry_ does not 
	mention yohimbe.

	For my information, Oh Great Steve of the Net, please
	clarify your precarious A=B is redundantly A=B supposition. 

	Furthermore, to beat this bloody topic to a pulp...
	does anyone know of any subjective differences between
	the bark (and its perhaps greater variety of alkaloids)
	and the capsules of yohimbine?
From: liron@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL (Liron Kapara)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Robitussin
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:11:56 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:10:16 IDT

Hello
I head of the acid like effect of R. and and decided to try it out
I bought one Robitussin cough syrop.
the syrop company is A. H. ROBINS COMPANY  RICHMOND VA 
(Is this the Rob. that ppl talk about here ?)
anyway I drunk just a little more than half a bottle 
the bottle is 4 FL. OZ. (American mesure???) I dont know how much it is
if that is a mesure at all.
anyway after drinking half a bottle i felt almost Nothing ..
no visuals no nothing.
What did I do wrong ? Is that the famous R.? Should I take more?
thanks.
-liron


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: u9038752@cc.uow.edu.au (roger bolton)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: MJ legalization in SF
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:37:57 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

I'd just like to point out that in three out of seven states of
australia, (Victoria, South Australia and Australian Capital Territory)
mj has been decriminalized, the only penalty for amounts under 25 gms
is an on the spot fine of not more than $200.
Unfrotunately this hasn't yet happened in the state I live in (New South
Wales) but there has been a lot of media info here lately, a couple
of Members of parliament saying it should be legalised, and I'm working
on making it happen.
just wanted to point out that things aint bad all over the world.
eldritch
From: honig@aster.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: News item/LSD dosing
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:20:01 GMT

 tvh@sandman.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Really, stupid! In the next six month many emergency
>situations could arise where you will be required to be your best.
>If per chance you get dosed just before hand ...
>
>Things go best with a little planning!
>
>Trust me on this.
>

On the other hand, I'd really like to have a pipefull of DMT in a glass case on
my wall for the Big One (that's a seismic disturbance to all you inlanders...)

dh

--
David "Dances with Motion Sensors" Honig

"Analog farmers don't panic when their silos overflow."
	-Me, after crashing too many workstations...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.suicide.holiday
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: A Desperate Attempt
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 07:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.070744.13921@pegasus.com> alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe) writes:
>Well..not that desperate..it's just that there were no articles
>on ASH and well..I didni't know how else to post on
>
>
>-- 
>**************************************************************************
>"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
>						-Kali
>**************************************************************************

ah...at last..i thought ASH had suicided..or perhaps it is just my news
reader..but I've had 0 articles for days..

A lot of you have written by email (hugs..love those ash babies;-)..but
really..you should be doing all that praising in public.     

Ok..to the person who thought I was flaming them..I didn't flame you
I did say I didn't see all the post but thanks for explaining...and I
see that it was justifiable rage..not..rape...and of course all kinds
of things like..rage..and angst..are justifiable....       

ok..what do to to liven things up..hmmm..(thinking)

I tried the disneyland torture ploy..no takers..

I will only be online for about..7 more days..and then you Ashers will
have to be without a Goddess for a month!...unless, of course I find
a way to post from Europe...and I think that just may be possible;->

Ah..what about attacking Lurkers..yes..that's it..why do you lurk..to you
feed on our dispair..?...hope for one of us to actually do it..?..uh
or it could just be the fascination of a freeway wreck..looking for a
little blood?;->


-- 
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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: codeine over-the-counter
Keywords: codeine
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:08:59 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Aug29.161753.27940@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>
>8mg of codeine with 325mg of aspirin.  Two of these might suppress
>your cough somewhat.  It is much too low a dose to be an effective
>pain reliever or to be a drug of abuse (a 150# male would require at
>least 60mg codeine for any kind of pain relief distinguishable from
>placebo.)  The aspirin in the preparation prevents too much of
>it from being taken at once.
>
>-- 
>Steve Dyer

Steve,

    Thanks again for your e-mail reply and seeing as you post what is
    essentially the same message here (you left out the minimal cafine
    content and the referance to this preparation being called '222')
    I need to make a couple of observations; 1 - I do not have a cough
    I have a HEADACHE... and 2 - 30mg codeine with aspirin IS sufficient
    to releive my 'normal' migraine given the addition of; quite,
    relaxation, and low light. Now 60mg codeine with aspirin works even if I
    can't get my wife to stop nagging, and the kids to KEEP QUIET while I
    lay on the couch with an arm locked over my eyes......   =)

    Seriously though - when I read the 8mg codeine I thought 'drive to
    Canada to buy a pain reliever of which I'd have to take 4-6 of to get
    the desired result (that being reliefe of a headache)....... Nah! I'll
    stick with two ibuprofen (500mg), two aspirin (10grs), and a BIG cup
    of BLACK coffie (12oz)...'

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"I've got thirteen channels of SHIT       |    mine alone and in no way reflect
 on the T.V. to chose from" - Pink Floyd  |

Post Post Script - mes-ca-line (mes'ke-len)n. An alkaloid drug that produces
					      hallucinations and abnormal
					      mental states.
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	  'Office Edition'
	       '1986'
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Preparation of cannabis
Summary: Marijauna folktales and reality...
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:32:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

I just had two questions about things I have heard recently.  They are
mainly just out of curiosity, because they are both interesting.
The first one is that hanging plants upside down and injecting them with alcohol will cause the THC to be much more "potent".  Is this true?  If so, is it
simply hanging it uppside and putting some gin in it?

The other one, which is something I've heard a long time, is:  Is 7-leaf
marijauna always a breed of THC rich marijauna, or is it not related?  Thanks!

DW
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15031 rec.arts.movies:25782 alt.cult-movies:7048
From: ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (I G Barrett)
Subject: Re: Long term effects of 'shrooms?
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:19:27 GMT

In <BtGD3A.1vJ@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> marc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Marc Schroeder) writes:

>Lately there have been many threads concerning the long term effects of
>LSD. However, I haven't seen any discussion of the long term effects of
>psilocybin/'shrooms, either in the postings or in a faq.

>Any comments?

>  Marc.

>-- 

Since the mechanism by which they cause their effect is very similar to that
of LSD it seems likely that many of the long term effects would be the same!
However, this may not be the case.  Have there been any studies of the long
term effects of various hallucinogens?  


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.war
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Amphetamines in Gulf War (was Re: Vikings etc.)
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:10:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.195518.4107@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>In article <1447@ceylon.gte.com>, chf0@newshost (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.162011.21930@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

>>|> Well, stimulants like amphetamines were used by U.S. pilots in the war
>>|> - oops, conflict - against Iraq.

	[Filler deleted]
>
>>      TACOMA, Wash. (UPI) -- Air Force pilots who flew bombing missions over
>> Iraq during the Persian Gulf War reportedly were given ``speed'' to keep
>> them alert and sedatives to help them sleep, it was reported Thursday.

	[Commentary from former members of the three stooges deleted]


	Non-chemists should never be allowed near drug stories.

	There are amphetamines and there are other stimulants.  The
	substance is question is probably not amphetamine but something
	called modafinil or 2-(Benzhydrylsulfinyl)acetamide.  You can find
	out more about it in:

	Aviat., Space Environ. Med., 62(5) 432-435 (1991).

	A review article by someone from the Human Systems Division
	of the USAF School of Aerospace Medicine at Brooks AFB.  This
	does not act through the same mechanism as amphetamine and
	appears to lack side effects associated with amphetamine use. The
	French have stated that modafinil was given to some soldiers
	in critical positions during the ground assault.

	Alec Chambers
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:14:18 GMT

In article <19892@plains.NoDak.edu> hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
(Michael J. Hennebry) writes:
>In article <64682@cup.portal.com> atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman) writes:
>>>> The Fort Wayne, IN.  City Council is voting tonight on an ordinance
>>>> providing for fines to be levied against landlords who do not evict
>>>> tenants after the city sends the landlord a letter asserting that drugs
>>>> are being sold in said tenants' apartment.  The amount of the proposed
>>>> fines is to range from $500 to $2500/day.

>My suggestion to anyone who gets such a letter is to go to a local
>judge letter in hand and make a criminal complaint against the tenants.

Isn't eviction a _legal_ proceeding?

Ask a judge for an eviction order, and nail it to the door.  Then call
the police to report trespassing.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: alt.drugs