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From: melliott@convex.com (Mark Elliott)
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:16:33 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Sep15.131207.12053@Arco.COM> greeves@Edm.Arco.COM (Gayle Reeves - PRC C6609) writes:

>Why do you have to pay sales tax on a used car.  Sales tax was already
>paid when the car was new.  This is not a car dealership who bought
>the car in order to sell it.

Sales tax is the universal government method of sucking our hard earned
income away from us. They look at it as though they should get a 
cut from every sale made no matter how many times an item gets
sold. The tax that really perturbed me was when I first moved to
Texas 9 years ago they charged me a sales tax for changing my pickup
from Wyoming to Texas plates. I protested it with the argument that
I had already paid the 'sales tax' on this thing when I bought it
and therefore am exempt. Their answer....."Well, do you want Texas
tags or not?"

>Is this simply another way for the state to get more tax dollars??
Yes.....does this surprise you?


--
	Mark Elliott	melliott@trojan.convex.com
        Incoming fire has the right of way.
             Murphy's Laws of Combat
From: miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:53:13 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

In article <drice.716516418@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>
>I just sold a car and it is the title that gets notarized.  BTW, Dallas
>County Tax Assessor/Collectors office took a check when I bought that car.
>

Hmm.

I just sold a car and bought a car and neither time did I need to get anything 
notarized, and when I sold my Monte Carlo back in '89 it was definitely the 
affidavit that had to be notarized. Maybe things are different from county to county?
(scratch head NOW)
 
The Tax Assessor/Collectors office over on Clay just west of Highway 6 most definitely
will not take checks.
 
Griff Miller - miller@monarch.wg3.waii.com

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Newsgroups: tx.general
From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:20:18 GMT

In <1470@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller) writes:

>In article <drice.716446650@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>>In <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
>>
>>>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>>>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>>>transaction?
>>
>>The amount of taxes due depends on the price you paid for the car.
>>As far as the paperwork, you need to (1) get the title from the seller
>>with the odometer reading filled in on the back of the title, have the
>>seller sign the back and have it notarized, (2) take the title to the
>>tax assessor/collector's office for the county you live in with the amount
>>of taxes and fees due (get this info by calling the office ahead of time).
>>

>I think it's 6.25% of the price you paid for the car, plus a few small 
>fees. 
> 
>Be sure it's the blue title (not a red one). Also, it is no longer 
>necessary to get anything notarized (it was the affidavit for the tax-collector's
>purposes that used to get notarized, not the title, right?). Just get the
>affidavit from a bank somewhere (a white form) and get it all filled out. Then
>take that and the title to a tax collector's office and prepare to stand in line 
>a little bit. They don't take checks, incidentally.

I just sold a car and it is the title that gets notarized.  BTW, Dallas
County Tax Assessor/Collectors office took a check when I bought that car.

--
D. Keith Rice -- University of North Texas -- drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu
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From: brads@natinst.com (Brad Smith)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:15:59 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

In article <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>transaction?
stuff deleted
>M.H.Khan
>--------------
>mhk@cactus.org

There are agencies that will handle some of the paperwork for you for
a small fee.  Look in the yellow pages under "Title Companies."
Presumably they will be able to answer your questions if you call them.
They're probably more conveniently located than the Tax Assessor's office
and you probably won't have to stand in line.
Brad Smith  (brads@natinst.com)
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: greeves@Edm.Arco.COM (Gayle Reeves - PRC C6609)
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Originator: greeves@kahuna
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:12:07 GMT


In article <1992Sep14.175647.6314@shell.shell.com>, jon@spjerint (Jon M. Holdman) writes:
|> >What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
|> >and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
|> >transaction?
|> 
|> The seller will provide the buyer a sales tax affidavit, a mileage
|> affidavit, and the signed-over copy of the title.  Buyer gives the
|> seller the agreed upon price, and gets the vehicle.  Buyer takes
|> paperwork to tax-assessors office and pays transfer fees, license fees,
|> and sales tax.  Sales tax is based on price shown on sales tax
|> afadavit.  Seller might want to go with buyer to be sure this actually
|> gets done, lest the buyer just leave the vehicle in seller's name.
|> It'll be tricker if there are any loans involved.  If the seller has a
|> payoff on the car, they won't have a title.  Call the sellers
|> lien-holder for how they want to handle it.  Expect hassles.  If the
|> buyer is financing the car, you should talk it over with the new
|> lien-holder as to how to handle it.
|> 
|> >What would be different IF the seller (and car) is in another state?
|> >Does it matter whether that state requires the license plates to be
|> >retained by the seller or not?
|> 
|> Probably, you'll have to get some sort of temporary license in the
|> sellers state to give you time to get here with it.  A trip to the
|> tax-assessors office in the sellers state will probably be needed.
|> You'll have to go through the same steps of taking the paperwork to the
|> tax office here and pay them their bucks.
|> 
|> >Is there any book or booklet with answers to the above questions?
|> 
|> Not that I know of.  A bank or credit union should be able to help you
|> out.  Also, call the tax-assessors office of the counties involved.
|> Its not really all that big a deal, just one of the usual paper
|> chases.
|> 
|> Jon Holdman, jon@shell.com


Why do you have to pay sales tax on a used car.  Sales tax was already
paid when the car was new.  This is not a car dealership who bought
the car in order to sell it.

Is this simply another way for the state to get more tax dollars??
-- 
|  Gayle Reeves                                                 |
|  Internet: greeves@arco.com                                   |
|                                                               |
|  ARCO is not responsible for any opinions expressed within.   |
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: stevep@twisto.compaq.com (Steve Pearlmutter)
Subject: Re: Paying the tax assessor
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation, Houston, TX.
	<lbambvINNq8k@boogie.cs.utexas.edu>
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:02:22 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Sep 1992 22:33:19 -0500, swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher) said:
>>In <1470@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller) writes:
>>> They don't take checks, incidentally.

> In article <drice.716516418@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith
> Rice) writes:
>>Dallas County Tax Assessor/Collectors office took a check when I
>>bought that car.

> This appears to vary by county.  The Travis County tax assessor also
> takes checks, but Griff's is the second posting I've seen lately from
> Houston saying the tax assessor there doesn't.  So call ahead to be
> sure.

Also having just gone through this, I can vouch for Harris County not
taking checks.  There are signs all over the branch near me saying "No
Checks Please".  However, I think if you really beg, and you get
someone who is in a really good mood, and the cashier/controller-type
person is in a really good mood, and it's not too hot, etc., you may
be able to get them to take a check.

BTW, I was buying a car that was titled out of state, but already
registered here, and I just had to get the title signed over and the
odometer statement (TX Form 130-U, I believe) filled out and signed.
I also had a bill of sale written up and signed by the seller.  I had
to show proof of insurance and pay 6.25% sales tax + about $50 in
miscellaneous other fees (including renewing the registration).
--
Steve Pearlmutter                        | Nothing I say in any way  
stevep@twisto.compaq.com                 | represents the opinions of
Compaq Computer Corporation, Houston, TX | my employers.  Really.
"Good taste is timeless... and a good time is usually tasteless."
From: miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:33:27 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

In article <1472@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller) writes:
> 
>The Tax Assessor/Collectors office over on Clay just west of Highway 6 most definitely
>will not take checks.

Clay just west of Highway 6 in Houston, that is. Sorry.
 
Griff Miller - miller@monarch.wg3.waii.com

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My opinions are mine, not Western's.
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From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Paying the tax assessor
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:33:19 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu

>In <1470@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller) writes:
>> They don't take checks, incidentally.

In article <drice.716516418@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith
Rice) writes:
>Dallas County Tax Assessor/Collectors office took a check when I
>bought that car.

This appears to vary by county.  The Travis County tax assessor also
takes checks, but Griff's is the second posting I've seen lately from
Houston saying the tax assessor there doesn't.  So call ahead to be
sure.
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney)
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Organization: None
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
> What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
> and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
> transaction?

I just sold a used vehicle. The paperwork required was an application
for a new title, and and odometer statement form obtainable from
the nearest county tax branch office. The signatures don't need to be
notarized on these or the blue title. The state sales tax is 6.25 percent,
and can be paid with a check if you mail it in, else cash in person.
If the car is a gift, the tax is only $10.

We did the transaction in person at the tax office, and the buyer had to
also show proof of insurance. I wasn't aware that proof of insurance was
required to change title ownership, and am still not sure about it. 
However, the buyer had it, so it was not questioned.
From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:03:40 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: University of North Texas

In <1992Sep15.030716.29087@moxie.hou.tx.us> hackney@moxie.hou.tx.us (Greg Hackney) writes:

>I just sold a used vehicle. The paperwork required was an application
>for a new title, and and odometer statement form obtainable from
>the nearest county tax branch office. The signatures don't need to be
>notarized on these or the blue title. The state sales tax is 6.25 percent,
>and can be paid with a check if you mail it in, else cash in person.
>If the car is a gift, the tax is only $10.

>We did the transaction in person at the tax office, and the buyer had to
>also show proof of insurance. I wasn't aware that proof of insurance was
>required to change title ownership, and am still not sure about it. 
>However, the buyer had it, so it was not questioned.

This probably was part of the new law that went into effect last year
that says that you need insurance coverage in order to renew your tags,
get an driver's license, or get your car inspected.

--
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From: jon@spjerint (Jon M. Holdman)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:56:47 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Shell Oil

>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>transaction?

The seller will provide the buyer a sales tax affidavit, a mileage
affidavit, and the signed-over copy of the title.  Buyer gives the
seller the agreed upon price, and gets the vehicle.  Buyer takes
paperwork to tax-assessors office and pays transfer fees, license fees,
and sales tax.  Sales tax is based on price shown on sales tax
afadavit.  Seller might want to go with buyer to be sure this actually
gets done, lest the buyer just leave the vehicle in seller's name.
It'll be tricker if there are any loans involved.  If the seller has a
payoff on the car, they won't have a title.  Call the sellers
lien-holder for how they want to handle it.  Expect hassles.  If the
buyer is financing the car, you should talk it over with the new
lien-holder as to how to handle it.

>What would be different IF the seller (and car) is in another state?
>Does it matter whether that state requires the license plates to be
>retained by the seller or not?

Probably, you'll have to get some sort of temporary license in the
sellers state to give you time to get here with it.  A trip to the
tax-assessors office in the sellers state will probably be needed.
You'll have to go through the same steps of taking the paperwork to the
tax office here and pay them their bucks.

>Is there any book or booklet with answers to the above questions?

Not that I know of.  A bank or credit union should be able to help you
out.  Also, call the tax-assessors office of the counties involved.
Its not really all that big a deal, just one of the usual paper
chases.

Jon Holdman, jon@shell.com
From: mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:27:03 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx

What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
transaction?

What would be different IF the seller (and car) is in another state?
Does it matter whether that state requires the license plates to be
retained by the seller or not?

Is there any book or booklet with answers to the above questions?


M.H.Khan
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mhk@cactus.org
From: miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:04:42 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

In article <drice.716446650@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>In <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
>
>>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>>transaction?
>
>The amount of taxes due depends on the price you paid for the car.
>As far as the paperwork, you need to (1) get the title from the seller
>with the odometer reading filled in on the back of the title, have the
>seller sign the back and have it notarized, (2) take the title to the
>tax assessor/collector's office for the county you live in with the amount
>of taxes and fees due (get this info by calling the office ahead of time).
>

I think it's 6.25% of the price you paid for the car, plus a few small 
fees. 
 
Be sure it's the blue title (not a red one). Also, it is no longer 
necessary to get anything notarized (it was the affidavit for the tax-collector's
purposes that used to get notarized, not the title, right?). Just get the
affidavit from a bank somewhere (a white form) and get it all filled out. Then
take that and the title to a tax collector's office and prepare to stand in line 
a little bit. They don't take checks, incidentally.
 
Griff Miller - miller@monarch.wg3.waii.com
 
------------------------------------
My opinions are mine, not Western's.
------------------------------------
From: martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:22:48 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc

In article <drice.716446650@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>In <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:
>
>>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>>transaction?
>
>The amount of taxes due depends on the price you paid for the car.
>As far as the paperwork, you need to (1) get the title from the seller
>with the odometer reading filled in on the back of the title, have the
>seller sign the back and have it notarized, (2) take the title to the
>tax assessor/collector's office for the county you live in with the amount
>of taxes and fees due (get this info by calling the office ahead of time).

Having just purchased a used vehicle last month I found out that notarization   
is no longer required for Texas titles, even those with the space on the back
for the notary.  One less step to go through anyways.

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________Niels Martin				|                      
martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com		| Quos deus vult perdere prius dementat!
My opinions don't represent		|  
my employer's--but they're right!	|     
Newsgroups: tx.general
From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Subject: Re: Purchasing a Used Car
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: tx
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:57:30 GMT

In <1992Sep12.202703.19925@cactus.org> mhk@cactus.org (M. H. Khan) writes:

>What, if any, taxes are due when buying a used car from an individual,
>and what is the minimum procedure/paperwork-requirements for such a
>transaction?

The amount of taxes due depends on the price you paid for the car.
As far as the paperwork, you need to (1) get the title from the seller
with the odometer reading filled in on the back of the title, have the
seller sign the back and have it notarized, (2) take the title to the
tax assessor/collector's office for the county you live in with the amount
of taxes and fees due (get this info by calling the office ahead of time).

>What would be different IF the seller (and car) is in another state?
>Does it matter whether that state requires the license plates to be
>retained by the seller or not?

I don't know.

--
D. Keith Rice -- University of North Texas -- drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu
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From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: SplatterFest: Important Two-up Info
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Organization: NOT

For those of you bringing pillions, the camping fee is per bike, and the
food per person (max 2 people per bike for you  PC800 types that want to
sneak in your six kids). If you're coming two up, the driver pays the 
regular $15 fee, and the passenger fee is $8.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Woods, What's up with that ? (was thoughts on GS oil)
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:24:02 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]You spend an hour waiting arround for someone to
]ask if you need help

no shit. lisa and I went in there to buy her 600f2, we went over to the
bike and stood by it and both watched the salesmen walk by us over and
over like we weren't even there. as we were deciding to just not buy it
the head sleeze carlos walked by and gave us a glance over his shoulder.
gee thanks for the attention. he asked me "how's that ZX-11?" as he passed
and I responded "fine, but we'd like to buy this bike". seeing dollar
signs flash before his eyes, he snapped his fingers and salesmen were
apologizing profusly for seeing us there and making us wait for so long.

I guess I should have known by then, but like a bad habbit I kept giving
them the chance to treat me with some respect. I pity all woods customers.

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CVF: moderating steve's posts (was finally, a Real Ride....)
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:52:12 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

]
]all those in favor of moderating steve's posts until he figures out where
]the ? and , keys are and when to hit them, say _I_.

My angle terchy aint taught me nuttin yet (said in best possible
North Carolinian (sic) redneck accent).  Joe, I can spell,
I sure can't punctuate.

Steve
From: st1lz@rosie.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Need some info on a bike
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:51:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hey, folks...got a question for you boys & girls that is not related to oil.

I got a friend who is looking to sell a '80 Kawi LTD 1000, and he has no clue
to what price to sell it at.  It looks stock with the execption of a
Kirker 4-to-1 pipe on it.

It has not been started in about 5 months.

Looks like it has been down once on the right side.  Damage: scraped
muffler, broken muffler mount.  No damage on the case.

Seat is in awesome shape for 12 years.  My friend claims it has been
garage kept its whole life.

It has about 29.5K miles on it.

Paint & crome are all in good to great condition, with one ding on the
tank.  Paint is black.

Oh, it has kick & electric start, hazards, straight handle bar.

It has a slow oil leak..after sitting about 5 months, there was a little
spot of oil on the ground.

Any problems with this model/year?

What would be a good asking price for the Houston area?

Please email/post...

Don


--
"Rabbit's clever"said Poo thoughtfully. "Yes,"said Piglet,"Rabbit's clever."
"And he has Brain." "Yes,"said Piglet,"Rabbit has Brain." "I suppose,"said Pooh,
"that that's why he never understands anything."-_The_Tao_of_Pooh_
    Don Harper, DoD#0520, '82 GS550LZ, Email: st1lz@jetson.uh.edu