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From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Subject: Re: Excalibur #62 SPOILERS & comments was Re: EXCALIBUR (SPOILERS)
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:46:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.160435.11592@nmsu.edu> bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes:
>Spoilrers and comments for Excalibur #62
>Spoilers and comments ahead

>rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro) writes
>>We now know what happened to Mastermind; RCX blew it up so they
>>could hijack the warpies.  This is not surprising.  
>To those of us who entered at Excalibur #1 it IS surprising, say on the 
>level of who ARE these guys?

The best answer, really, is to read the Captain Britain trade paperback (CBTP).
Also, ask around on the net for jayembee's (may he return some day) summaries
of the Captain Britain comics.  But in short, there was a madman named Jim 
Jaspers who had the power to warp reality.  While Jaspers was killed and 
reality restored, the incident caused a number of bizarre babies to be born.
These are the warpies.  The CBTP also has more about RCX, some important
material on Meggan, on Doc Croc, Jamie, Betsy, the Captain, and so forth.
Plues great art and good stories.  Go get it! :-)

>>RCX has also apparently merged with (or rather, forcibly absorbed) FI6 
>>and WHO.
>I got the impression that RCX became leader 'de facto' when the leaders
>of FI6 and WHO were killed by Nerom and RCX respectivly.

Good point... :-)

>differnet reality is a problem. It is a good development though, because
>we will most likely see from who Excalibur got its authority.

They have their authority from no one.  They decided to team up (in
_Excalibur_) and have been together since.  I don't believe they answer to
any British agency.  I hope they take out RCX once and for all, though.

>>And Brian suffers another power failure.  What is it this time?  Some other
>>one-shot thing, or the logical outcome of power nexus being eliminated due
>>to the destruction (in #50) of the lighthouse and all of its incarnations?
>Could also tie into the events of Excalibur #8-10.  These issues set up not only
>that outside of England Brian looses his power but also so suggested that
>he needed the outfit to gain back his powers. {Brian's power failures have
>all been outside of his costume.}

I don't think so.  The incident in 8-10 ticked a lot of people off, because
in the CPTB Brian has plenty of powers both outside of England and even after
not wearing his costume for a long time.  Then after Davis's return in #42,
there was an issue that retconned away what #8-10 implied about Brian.  I
think it has to do with the destruction of the lighthouse.  The "conjunction"
that was held in place by the lighthouses is gone -- Merlyn himself said that
energy would be rather "scarce" because of what Excalibur did.  We'll just have
to see.


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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: X-Factor Credits
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:08:00 GMT

In article <92365.140844EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>Actually, that reminded me of the one thing I didn't like about the issue.
>Quicksilver in a baggy suit and unlaced shoes.  Not only did I think it
>was out of character, but it's also dangerous.  If there had been some
>attack on the team while they were in therapy (and by now they should
>be on constant watch for that) he'd have busted his legs from tripping
>over his laces, or the shoes as they came off.  Reminds me of the time
>I wrote a speedster character with a cape in closed quarters. *choke!*

	It's not a hazard, since Quicksilver can do just about anything at
super speed... eat, play the piano, solve a puzzle, tie his shoes, etc.
(Of course, this may explain why his wife had an affair :-)
I'd guess he was either wearing the suit underneath, or had it nearby, and
could change into it within a few seconds.

	Joe Delisle

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From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
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Subject: Re: X-Force #19
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:12:50 GMT
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Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 29-Dec-92 Re: X-Force #19
Steven Weide@uceng.uc.ed (1429)

> In article <7rnrwgg@lynx.unm.edu> djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:

> >2. Vanessa: who is she?

> That is the person who was inpersonating Domino during the whole series so far.


thanks for the news flash! ;) I *think* what he meant was: just who *is*
she? We know that she was impersonating Domino, but who was she before?

--Vernon.
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From: cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer)
Subject: Re: Multiple Man
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Organization: NCSA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:01:52 GMT

In article <85793@ut-emx.uucp>, robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael)
wrote:

> And what about the multiple dying?  Was the fact that he couldn't be absorbed
> purely due to Riccochet messing with his powers?  Or do dead dupes really
> become permanent dead bodies, instead of ephemeral live ones?  And does the
> death knock down the max total of dupes he could make?  (i.e., before his
> dupe got shotgunned, he could have made 20 dupes . . . this doesn't seem
> to wash because afterwards when the real and evil Madroxes fought, they
> still added up to 40 instead of 41, if it was assumed that none of the evil
> Madroxes dupes had been killed yet . . . so we have a Madradox (Madrox Paradox))

Didn't one of the Madroxes buy it at the beginning of the Riccochet
storyline? 

Thanx
Chuck
cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu

Only a fool is sure. --Moe Howard
From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:14:27 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <168BF14492.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.112405.62101@cc.usu.edu>
>sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 
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>>>>My undying awe goes to anyone who can come up with a more useless
>>>>power.

     in some X-men comic played for laughs there was a villian called EYE-SCREAM who can change into any flavor of Ice-Cream.

			Top That

			Jorge Delacruz
From: lazarus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
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Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 1 Jan 1993 02:43:49 -0600
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dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>lore@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Lore Christian Sjoberg):
>>CHAMPION V
>>
>>Secret Identity: Buck Von Tiffany
>>Power: Can control anything beginning with the letter "V".
>>Angst: Fears that his powers are too useful, and the rest of the
>>       team is jealous.

>This power is better than almost anything the major teams have.
>Just imagine being able to control volume, velocity, viscosity,
>vectors, violence, and vermin.  Why there are cities that would
>pay a fortune merely for the services of someone who could 
>control vandalism.  And, of course, if some interstellar menaces
>threaten, CV could always use his power over velocity to ram
>them with the planet Venus.

Yeah, but he'd be screwed if Chekov decided to ram him with the
USS Enterprise... not much he could do against such a "wessel"...
>;)  :)  :)  :)

>-----
>Dani Zweig
>dani@netcom.com

>  The surface of the strange, forbidden planet was roughly textured and green,
>  much like cottage cheese gets way after the date on the lid says it is all 
>  right to buy it.--Scott Jones

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From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to... EVERYBODY!
Date: 3 Jan 93 04:02:24 GMT
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Me, Myself, and I

In article <C07x20.IEw@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) writes:
>Well, almost. Here's a quick rundown of the last time that I can remember
>some of the supporting cast we've been wondering about...
>
>PHILLIP MOREAU -- aka "the NASA guy." While I don't think he's dead, the
>	last time I remember him clearly was in issue #158, where he's
>	helping test Carol Danvers' abilities after Rogue stole her
>	powers. I haven't seen him around since.
>

I believe that you are referring to Peter Corbeau (or, as issue #158 says
"NASA physicist Peter Corbeau, another of the X-Men's trusted associates").

Philip Moreau is the son of the Genoshan "Genegineer" who first appeared in
X-Men #236. (The first Genoshan storyline  in UXM 235-238 is actually pretty
good. Unfortunately, the X-Tinction Agenda has got to be the worst-written
X-Book storyline that I have ever read.)

---
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We have been given the power of free speech.
Let's make sure that we use it wisely... 
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From: sweide@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Weide)
Subject: Re: X-Force #19
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:13:11 GMT

In article <7rnrwgg@lynx.unm.edu> djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young) writes:
>Hey just checking in with a glance a X-Force 18.  All I have to 
>say is that the books have gotten a lot better with the 
>end of X-Song. I thought that this issue of X-Force was the
>best of the year. Here a warning of spoilers. Press a lot 
>spaces because I don't have the ^L thing down.
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>closed fist vs. the open hand and I have to admit that Nicieza 
>presented a lively debate. But this issue did set up the future
>for a different direction with no interference from Xavier.
>I don't really know where Lila came from.  And who the heck
>was the Stevie girl talking to Roberto? But the point is made

That was Stevie Hunter, a regular at the X-Mansion during the New Mutants.

>that X-Force is not part of the X-Men and that in fact they 
>turn into adversaries. No a list of immediate subplots neededs
>to be dealt with by Nicieza:
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>1. Domino: where is she?
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>2. Vanessa: who is she?

That is the person who was inpersonating Domino during the whole series so far.

>3. Cable: joining with the new Six-Pack or X-Force.  Obviously Six-Pack.
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>4. Externals: will they be the main enemies?
>

Steve

"Your better served working with me than dying against me,
 	remember it and live."
                               Cable
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: X-Men : TAS Premiere---yes the real thing this time
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:45:27 GMT

FOX will be brodacasting the first two episodes of X-Men The Animated Series
on January 9th as a one hour special during their normal saturday morning
viewing as the actual beginning of the series as a weekly constuct.  This
of course means we should get our first truly new episode on January 23rd.

-- 
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of enchantment, and the best deals this side of the river Jordan, come on down"
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Subject: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
From: ronald.romine@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Ronald Romine) 
Date: 25 Dec 92 01:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: ronald.romine@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Ronald Romine) 
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phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Aeleck) writes:

>How about the mutant ability to _NOT_ register as a mutant on mutant
> scanners?
>That's it, nothing more?  Would that qualify as the _STUPIDEST_?

JAK> Hey, that's my original Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
JAK> (the ability to fool things into thinking one's a human)

How about the power to duplicate ANY other mutant's power, but the
side effect is that he (the duplicator) can't use the power.


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From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Mutants/Outworld
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:29:32 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


    I'm new here and these was probably already decussed but...

	Is Psylocke a Mutant, being that her father is from outworld, did
     she get her powers from him or is she a mutant.  and if she is, is
     her brother Jamie one too?

	Captain B isn't a mutant as said in the back of Excalibur, but
      what of his siblings.

						Jorge Delacruz
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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: Remember Booster Gold?
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:34:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.194411.2991@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, pueschgj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes...
> 
>HAve any of you remember the comic book Booster gold
>Great comic book, it ran till 25
>wasnt too popular.
>I think he is in the Europe League of Heros
> 

	I think you're looking for rec.arts.comics.misc... you're a long way
from home and all alone talking about DC's on this newsgroup!

	Joe

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: X-Force #19
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:28:20 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

No spoilers, so I removed many annoying blank lines...

>>I don't really know where Lila came from.  And who the heck
>>was the Stevie girl talking to Roberto? But the point is made
>
>That was Stevie Hunter, a regular at the X-Mansion during the New Mutants.

Well, you could tell him better than that, it's not like it's some secret
or something. Stevie Hunter is a retired professional dancer who runs a
dance studio in Salem Center. She came into the X-lives about the same time
as Kitty Pryde. Most of her big storylines were in the late 100s. Hmm, now
that I think about it, we haven't heard from that NASA scientist that
used to hang around Xavier's for a while, either. Oh, well.

Lila could have come from whereever she wanted to. She has intergalactic
range on her teleportation.

-- 
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My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle)
Subject: Re: X-Force #19
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:10:00 GMT

In article <C00FF9.E4r@ns1.nodak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry) writes...
>>That was Stevie Hunter, a regular at the X-Mansion during the New Mutants.
> 
>Well, you could tell him better than that, it's not like it's some secret
>or something. Stevie Hunter is a retired professional dancer who runs a
>dance studio in Salem Center. She came into the X-lives about the same time
>as Kitty Pryde. Most of her big storylines were in the late 100s. Hmm, now
>that I think about it, we haven't heard from that NASA scientist that
>used to hang around Xavier's for a while, either. Oh, well.

	She also played a "big" role in the early issues of New Mutants (long
before they became the X-Tough.Guys.With.Big.Guns). As for the NASA guy, didn't
he get killed? 

	Joe Delisle

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Topped! (Was: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:57:05 GMT
Organization: Happiness Hotel, Grinch Suite

>     in some X-men comic played for laughs there was a villian called
> EYE-SCREAM who can change into any flavor of Ice-Cream.
>
>			Top That

Ah, yes, the Obnoxio one-shot special. Obnoxio the Clown, for you
uninitiates, was the stogie-chompin' Doom Clown for Marvel's once-thriving...
well, once-existant comedy line. Obnoxio teamed up with the X-Men in his
special, which also featured one of the earliest Phoenix-Death parodies,
if I remember correctly.

And, as topping for your ice cream, may I introduce you to Dris-Stan, the
mutant with the power to CONTROL the very MUCUS in your SINUSES?

I thought so! Enjoy, he's here for the holidays.

"She was in great pain." --van Helsing
-- 
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From: gmf2@quads.uchicago.edu (gary michael feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 17 and X-Factor 87
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:35:03 GMT
Reply-To: gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

X Factor 87 was awesome!!!!! Another PAD writing masterpiece, 
IMO.  Iloved the characterizations, and the bit with Lorna
looking at the candy dish was great.

Regarding Lorna's costume, I say bring back the original. It was
sexy/flashy in the same way, but matched her hair/bpower sig
better.  Orange and Green??? come on!!!!

Gary
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:34:07 GMT

lore@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Lore Christian Sjoberg):
>CHAMPION V
>
>Secret Identity: Buck Von Tiffany
>Power: Can control anything beginning with the letter "V".
>Angst: Fears that his powers are too useful, and the rest of the
>       team is jealous.

This power is better than almost anything the major teams have.
Just imagine being able to control volume, velocity, viscosity,
vectors, violence, and vermin.  Why there are cities that would
pay a fortune merely for the services of someone who could 
control vandalism.  And, of course, if some interstellar menaces
threaten, CV could always use his power over velocity to ram
them with the planet Venus.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

  The surface of the strange, forbidden planet was roughly textured and green,
  much like cottage cheese gets way after the date on the lid says it is all 
  right to buy it.--Scott Jones
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP)
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Subject: Proof that Cable is Nathan from X-Force #18
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:58:07 GMT
Organization: McGill University

People have been asking why X-Force #18 implies that Cable, not Stryfe,
is actually Nathan.  The most compelling evidence was that Scott was
convinced of it at the end and God Forbid our heroes should be stupid.
Still, this isn't hard evidence so I took the time to actually go
through X-Force #18 to find some hard evidence.  Here it is:

Proof that Cable isd Nathan from X-Force #18:

1 page 2:  Cable is called Nathan Dayspring Askani'son.

2 page 4:  Cable is called "a failed attempt to preserve a life".
  Clearly, Cable is not a robot.

3 page 10: Cable is called "rebel savior".  That was to be Nathan's
  destiny.

4 page 17: The genetic matrix shield was programmed for the Summers
  (family) DNA.  Again, Cable is not a robot but the son of Cyclops.
  (Note from page 31 that the Summers family DNA was promised to Mister
  Sinister.)

There you go.

As I type this, I'm about to leave to go to Ottawa.  While I'm there,
I'm going to take a look at UX #160, the Magik miniseries and NM #72
in an effort to put together a referenced history of Magik for
everybody.  (I've been giving some thought as to what I could say and,
damn, is it ever complicated!)

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