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From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: various
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:04:35 GMT
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465

About GEnieLamp:

"Should we keep it here or in Comp.Binaries.Apple2?"

Please put up more issues; however, please remove the extra
spaces. i.e. within the last post, blank lines are not empty!
They contained many spaces - up to 72!!!!  Someone pays to
send this stuff around the world; I pay to get it from my
local uucp site.   Blank lines should be blank!

--------

I read in "infoWorld" that Apple is coming out with a new CD-ROM
drive (UNDER $300) with very good speed.  Will it work on a GS?

--------

What is tosintro.shk?  There are 18 segments and would cost me
a lot to down load.  WHAT IS IT??



larry@lablues.UUCP
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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MS-DOS FST
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:15:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <NAGENDRA.92Aug19141001@csa.bu.edu> nagendra@csa.bu.edu (nagendra mishr) writes:
>I have a suggestion:  This may be a bad idea, but, since the
>MS-DOS FST is read only, how about listing the files with a few
>different translations, for ex:
>
>	.bat   ->  exec and text  #  there would be two different
>names, possibly with a number at the end of it or some other suffix.
>
>Or having some sort of preference window in which the user is allowed
>to select the translations.

When the Finder described the file kind, it's based on the single filetype
and auxiliary type that are returned from GS/OS...so I don't see how to do
multiple choice.

However, the FST lets you customize the translation table (should wind
up being very much like the High Sierra FSTSpecific calls...see GS/OS
Reference), so people will be able to write control panels (or whatever)
to let the user choose their favorite translations.
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Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: TimeLord GS from DreamWorld
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:20:00 GMT

In article <2A88E88C.29825@ics.uci.edu> jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>
>Hey all!  I just saw/and played the demo version of TimeLord, and I am
>very, very, impressed!  The graphics (no sound/music in the demo version
>that I got) is incredible.  Now, I know, the term "incredible" is cliche,
>trite, overused (as in, "Wow man, I just saw the IBM's CGA mode, and man,
>it was incredible!"), but hear me now, believe me later, TimeLord is
>bitching!  (I didn't know the graphics on the GS could look this good!)

	Thanks.  I'll pass your comments on to the author and the artist.

[ Nice comment deleted... ]

>Hey Steven, so how close are you to release the game?  about this || close,
>or more like this |       | close?

Well, in ascii, we're this close:



:)  

>Jimmy Shaw

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: reevess@cse.fau.edu (Steve Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: New tech notes?
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:18:52 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

When can we expect to see the new batch of System 6-related tech notes on
ftp.apple.com?

-- 
Steve Reeves
reevess@cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: New GS Freeware
Reply-To: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:04:27 GMT


In a previous article, irie@husc9.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie) says:

>Actually,  I HAVE seen Cyberwar up on both c.b.a2 and tybalt. The author
>seemed nice enough on the messages  and took the time to explain his
>program. Unfortunately, I have never gotten Cyberwar to work on my machine
>and have never followed up on it, and have since deleted it. HAs
>anyone else had problems with it?

Yes, I've had problems with it on my ROM 01, so I never really did much with
it either.  I hear there is a new version coming soon, though.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: al186@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Subject: Re: Applesoft Basic
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:18:47 GMT


why not use a GET routine to assemble a string instead of using input?
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From: cmcurtin@bluemoon.rn.com (Matthew Curtin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II in ads
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:45:55 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes:

> miket@frog.CRDS.COM (vulture) writes...
> >
> >I have a booklet from 'Sybase, Inc.' which talks about their
> >"Client/Server Architecture for the On-Line Enterprise." and the back
> >cover includes a picture of the Apple IIgs as the background.  If you
> >look hard, you can even see the "Woz" signature!
> 
>      I was just at a conference a couple days ago put on by Sybase
> Canada called "Database Forecast 2000".  I should have checked to see
> if they had any GS's amongst the Sparcstations and IBM PC's running
> their demos...  :)

I went to that conference when it was here in Columbus, OH. They didn't 
have any GSes there (darn!)... ;-)

> --
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: nuking the icons
From: rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (Randy)
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:36:55 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Oops, make that bit 1 of location $5F to kill the icons.
-- 
Randy Shackelford                       "That's right, just keep tap dancing
rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu              on the minefield"  -  Al Bundy

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix2.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: system software idea
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:51:39 GMT

rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (Randy) writes:
: In article <9208130436.aa12107@generic.UUCP>, taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao) writes:
: 
: >     The VMMP (Visit Monitor/Memory Peeker) TIF does exactly that.
: > Saves you the trouble of having to manually type "#" in the monitor
: > each time you boot.
: 
: I got an even better setup than that. I just set the right bit in battery RAM
: and they show up all the time. Thanx to Eric Mulholland. ROM 03's are so neat,
: everyone should get one. So I have done homebrew BRAM mods to nuke the icons
: off my boot screen and get the ROM da's to show up. Are there any other neat
: BRAM tricks anyone knows about for me to try?
: -- 
: Randy Shackelford                       "That's right, just keep tap dancing
: rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu              on the minefield"  -  Al Bundy
: 
	You mean you can actually program the Rom 03 battery RAM to
contain programs which can be executed?  If so, then just an idea: How
about a password protection system built-in which activates on powerup?

- DOTW - :)
From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: gs.os.FST?
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:56:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
:   The main thing we'd need to have is the ability to boot GS/OS off
: of something other than a ProDOS disk; that would be _true_ filesystem
: idependence.

     Huh, it's just like waking up.
     Welllll... Errrr....  YEAH!  That's it, that's it! <drool><slurp>
     Oops sorry.  But the thought...... :-)
     Haven't delved into file system design for about 2 years.  How about
     suggestions about this.

Gary
gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu
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From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: gs.os.FST?
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:41:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
: I was thinking about a hypothetical GS/OS-specific file system last
: night, and had a few ideas that others may like to comment on:
: 
: It should support file and disk sizes up to the full limit of GS/OS
: parameters, i.e. 4 gigabytes per file or disk.
:
: Filenames should be less restrictive.  I like HFS: 31 characters,
: only illegal character is colon.
:
: Dates stored on disk should include seconds (for those of us who
: frequently compile programs, and use date/time comparisons to work out
: whether a source file needs to be recompiled).
: 
: Filetypes should be two bytes and auxiliary types four bytes (to allow
: for "future expansion").

     Now these I totally agree with.
 
: The fields required to handle the resource fork should be in the
: directory, not in an extended file key block.

     This is the way it should be.

: Otherwise, there is no reason why it cannot be an expanded version of
: ProDOS.  To handle disks larger than 32 megabytes, mutiple disk blocks
: could be combined into "allocation blocks".  To make a 4 gigabyte
: disk, you would need 64k allocation blocks (64k of them).

     We could always use a undefined storage type.  I know, it will mess up
future software releases. (Yah right!)  Actually it may not maybe we could
just ask Apple which one.  That way the lower 32 megs could (could be less)
be a normal ProDOS and then you could create an extended directory file.
   This directory file could hold information like above.  The key block for
files in this directory could have a 4 byte pointer to the files key block
which could be two 512 byte blocks with the high 2 bytes in the second key
block.  ProDOS actually has it in it to do stuff like this.  It even has
stuff to increase the length of a directory file so that more information
to be added.  I don't know.  Haven't had a full night like David to think
about it so this stuff is right off the top of my head.

: 
: Any comments?
:

     Yeah,  let's get some comments about this.

Gary
gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mvats@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mudit P Vats)
Subject: Re: various
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:50:53 GMT

In article <caHsPB4w165w@lablues.UUCP> larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:
>I read in "infoWorld" that Apple is coming out with a new CD-ROM
>drive (UNDER $300) with very good speed.  Will it work on a GS?

That would indeed be excellant.  It would probably work on a GS, BUT aside from
Apple's Developer's disks, there are not many CD's in the GS format that the GS
can take advantage of......

>What is tosintro.shk?  There are 18 segments and would cost me
>a lot to down load.  WHAT IS IT??

It is the digitized sound of Star Trek theme...... Kind of cool !  

later.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: koby@libra.math.tau.ac.il (Gabai Koby)
Subject: monitor HELP model A9M0308
Organization: School of Math & CS - Tel Aviv University , Tel Aviv , ISRAEL.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:41:59 GMT


hello
i have a monitor --- apple rgb color monitor
                     model a9m0308

i dont have the pin out list of the 15 pin d-type connector
can anyone help?
thanks koby
From: kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us (Kevin Gapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: No, no.. Not an IDE drive
Date: 11 Aug 92 19:20:05 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Originator: kgapp@gagme

>mccla_d@horsa.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski) writes:
>
>> [...] software had folder names go bad to where I couldn't delete
>> them. Before I found the super-delete in ProSel, this was all I
>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> could do to get rid of them.
>
 
Phil Linberg replies
 
>WHAT IS THAT!!!?!    I have ProSel (including the manual) but I've
>never heard of super-delete.  Several times I have had ProSel come
>back and tell me "found problem, didn't fix it, tough luck" ;).  Being
>able to do a super-delete would be really nice.  Please let me know
>how you execute that, (a page number in the manual would be fine if
>the explaination is too long.)
>
>Phil Lindberg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen)
Subject: Re: system software idea
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:37:54 GMT

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.005139.673@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix2.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:

>Randy Shackelford writes:
>>: I got an even better setup than that. I just set the right bit in battery
>>: RAM and they show up all the time. Thanx to Eric Mulholland. ROM 03's are
>>: so neat, everyone should get one. So I have done homebrew BRAM mods to nuke
>>: the icons off my boot screen and get the ROM da's to show up. Are there any
>>: other neat BRAM tricks anyone knows about for me to try?

[...]

>All the things Randy mentioned are covered by the ROM or the System Software
>checking a particular bit in Battery RAM and behaving differently depending
>on the setting.

>Other things to try.  Well, there's a bit that makes System 6 *not* sort
>your desk accessories alphabetically, and one that makes the mouse pointer
>flicker less with accelerators.

Is there a reference as to which bits to what?

Jeff Berntsen
jeffb@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: Need software for Apple
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:29:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <hi44245@pro-scat.cts.com> lorend@pro-scat.cts.com (Loren Damewood) writes:
>
>I'm not entirely sure how to interpret this - but in case you are in any
>doubt as to the status of TIC, it is not public domain, not freeware, not
>shareware. There should be no copies of it available online for downloading
>under any circumstances, as it is a commercially available program. It used
>to be shareware but is now handled through Quality Computers (800-443-6697)
>instead. There are demo versions online, with some features disabled, but
>those can't be considered PD either . . .  
>
>Loren

As I understand things, this is not entirely correct. Earlier versions
of TIC were indeed shareware. The author of TIC has done something entirely
new, and has asked that earlier versions of TIC be removed from distribution.

Some sysops have complied, some have never even heard of the request. I
do not think that you can remove the shareware status of a version of
software. So as far as I know (standard disclaimers, I ain't no lawyer)
those shareware versions of TIC are still valid shareware. Of course the
new version (whatever that might be) is commercial.


Rich

payner@netcom.com
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Bobs: Warning
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:06:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug17.093105.5653@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes...
> 
>Gack!  I was running the Ninja Force  "Revenge of the Bobs"
>demo disk, and when I reset my GS, it had changed my control
>panel settings.
> 
>Okay, well changing control panel settings isn't a horrible crime,
>but this program sets the text and background to black!  It also
>sets the boot slot to 5, so I couldn't even load System 6 from
>my hard drive (And not being able to actually "see" the control
>panel, I couldn't reset the colors).  
> 
>Anyway, I managed to dig up and find an old System disk with the
>control panel NDA on it, so I was able to fix it.  But I wonder
>what else this demo did to my computer?!

  I had the same thing happen to me. I had copied the demo to /RAM5 and
attempted to boot it from there. It didn't run (didn't really except it
to run from anything _not_ on the smartport), but it did save some nasty
things in my battery-RAM. My border, text, and background colors were
set to black, volume level to 0 (off), and my startup device set to ROMdisk.
Doing a cold-boot from my GS had no effect, so I was forced to purge my
BRAM by (blindly) getting into the system settings and switching to 60Hz.

  Btw, what's described above is *very* simular to the "Blackout" virus. 
I tried scanning for it later with Salvation Exorciser but came up with nothing.
So was the Blackout virus accidentially added to the Demo disk, or do these
people at this NinjaForce group find it humourous to write up their own viruses?
Aside from that, I don't like the idea of having to set my GS to 50Hz to run
the animation on their demo (could damage my monitor or cpu). You don't even 
the option of running at 50Hz or 60Hz on a ROM 3 since the selector menu (and
animation/music on 1st title page) aren't compatible. 

>-- 
> __                                                                   __
>(__) Grover Thomas            InterNet: grover@emunix.emich.edu      (__)
>(__)                               or   bp664@Cleveland.Freenet.edu  (__)

Mitchell Spector
spector@vax2.concordia.ca
From: Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Dragon's Lair for the GS?
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:47:01 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Previously Mudit P. Vats wrote:

>DRAGON LAIR II ????????????????  WHOH !!!!!!!  I must get this game.  The
>arcade game is incredible, as you probably know....  Can you give me the
>name,address, number or the company you ordered it from ????
>
>thanks.........  wow!

O.K. here it is:
        Educational Resourses           Educational Resourses Canada
        1-800-624-2926                  1-800-624-2926
        1550 Executive Drive,           3911 Victoria Avenue North
        Elgin, IL 60123                 P.O. Box 644
        U.S.A.                          Vineland, Ontario, L0R 2C0
                                        Canada

This was advertised in the Fall 1991 catalog. Hope this helps.
From: trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Has the 2gs been dropped?
Date: 17 Aug 92 03:51:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug17.035101.12321
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

mccla_d@aelle.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski) writes:

>Word has it that

>> trimper@edsi.plexus.com.  Nail him!

>said the GS had been dropped.

Why some people are always eager for the same tired old flame war over
platforms I will never know.

I did NOT say that "the GS had been dropped."  What I said, and let's
listen carefully, is that Apple has dropped support and development of
the ][ line, meaning that there would be no further ][ machines from
apple (gs is the end of the line) and that there would be no further
software developments from Apple for the ][ line (nor for the 68000-
based Macs - 68030 is the least).  I also said that the ][e and the
][gs, until recently still on Apple's price list, are noticeably absent
from the preliminary Sept "back to school" price list.

Please, folks, your eagerness to start a war over it shows your nervousness
about the stability of the platform.  


Greg Trimper   trimper@edsi.plexus.com
From: maye_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (The Toxic Wombat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Personal Laserwriter LS driver for the GS
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:37:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


I was wondering if anyone has an idea if Apple has any intention
of releasing a //gs System 6 device driver for the Personal Laserwriter
LS. I know the normal Laserwriter driver will work for the NTR but
the LS like the Stylewriter works direct connect and System 6 will 
under no circumstances allow a direct connect laserwiter.

Ideas anyone?

Rob Mayer
maye_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II RWTS codes.
Date: 21 Aug 1992 15:02:24 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Hacker's Job
Keywords: Apple //e FOREVER
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Aug21.130516.18817@ausom.oz.au> paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au writes:
>jjs40@cd.amdahl.com (John Sullivan) writes :

>In the Steve Wozniak interview at Kansasfest, Woz claimed that the RWTS
>routines were probably the most difficult code he had ever written, and he
>doubted if _he_ could do it again! You sure are aiming high!

I'm sure he's just been polite. Word around is that he wrote a lot of it
in only a couple of days...