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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Various
From: bruce@locke.hs.washington.edu (Bruce Edwards)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: bruce@locke.hs.washington.edu
Organization: Locke Computer Center, CAC, University of Washington

In article <Rich_Koster.0keb@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US>, Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes...
>Belinda LeFor replied to my message Re: Unofficial Guide to WDW:
> > Personal note:  don't bother with Dixie Landings!  We found the room
> > small and cramped, the bed too small for two of us to sleep in
> > comfortably, and the layout very poor (most of the rooms are a good
> > distance from parking).
> 
       Depending on when you make your reservation and I suppose what time
of year, you should have pretty good success on special requests.  We
requested a single King bed and received it.  We were about fairly close
to our car as well as well as the bus stop.  I guess it helps to know the
layout when putting in a special request, but even if you don't you can
ask for things you know you want.  All in all, we were very pleased with
the facilities.  Note that Disney will not guarantee requests but will
attempt to accomodate them.  If you make you request early enough, I assume
you should be able to get what you want.

>But seriously, between Dixie Landings, Caribbean Beach, and Port Orleans,
>are any of them any good (anybody's comments welcome).  We've heard that
>Caribbean Beach rooms have coffee makers and a mini-bar included in the
>room even though the guidebooks and Disney literature don't mention this
>fact.  We heard the reason for this extra stuff in the room is to make
>amends for the fact that Caribbean Beach doesn't have as much dining
>opportunities as the other resorts.  I think all Disney resorts should
>have this stuff and not just the expensive rooms, 'cause some folks
>need there coffee first thing in the morning -- we plan on bringing
>our New Orleans-style coffee and chicory with us when we stay!
> 
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

    The mini bar(honor bar) and coffee maker in the Caribbean Beach I
assume may be there for that reason (although Port Orleans and Dixie
Landings don't have that much more dining).  The coffee makers I think
are intended to be used with the coffee supplied in the mini-bar (It is
the type that is pre-measured and has the coffee sealed inside of the
filter.  So no filters are included.

     We enjoyed our stay at both the Caribbean Beach Resort and Dixie Landings
(haven't stayed at Port Orleans yet), and in both places we were pleased
enough, that we would stay again. (We do make reservations well in advance
though).

Bruce Edwards
University of Washington

Internet   -- bruce@cac.washington.edu
From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney figures wanted
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:56:36 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

OOOOpppppssss.....

Just as I was trying to be helpful, Jeff's message popped up.  Sorry
for the redundancy.

Nancy

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From: tbont@ep.ieee.org (Thomas Bontrager)
Subject: subscription
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:10:38 GMT


Hello, out there,

Could anyone please give me info on how to subscribe to
this list using email?

Thanks very much.

Tom 
New York
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: westcot
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:46:35 PDT

In article <1992Jul31.145803.22478@PA.dec.com>, mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
> In article <92213.010023LEWCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, LEWCU@CUNYVM.BITNET writes...
> 
>>And where are they going to put it.  Th parking lot is not that big.
> 
>  The parking lot itself is bigger than Disneyland, and Disney owns other land
>  adjacent to the current park as well.

The newspaper ran a photo of the artist's conception and the plan map
when the announcement was first made.  Based on that, Westcot will be
built entirely where the parking lot is now.  Almost all of the land
immediately adjacent to Disneyland that is currently used for support
buildings and such (maintenance, storage, etc.) will be used for
exapansion of the existing park.  The support functions will be moved
to unspecified off-site locations.  The land across the street on both
sides of the Disneyland Hotel will be used to develop a resort complex
with multiple themed hotels and whatnot, similar to the Florida property
but on a much smaller scale.  There will be a parking garage at the
resort complex, as well as two more garages right off Interstate 5 about
a half mile east of the parks.  The garages will be connected to the
parks by a Peoplemover system, and at least one will have its own
dedicated offramp from the freeway.

The plans for the resort complex include a complete renovation of the
Disneyland Hotel with the addition of a new 300-room tower, as well
as three new hotels, the Disneyland Resort Hotel, the Magic Kingdom
Hotel, and the Westcot Lake Resort Hotel.  Also planned are the
Disneyland Center, a shopping and dining complex around a six acre
lake, and the Disneyland Bowl, a 5000-seat amphitheater.

--
|  Greg Orman                            greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|         Fall not in love, for it will stick to your face.         |
From: vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:40:11 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: IBM, Austin

I have to say that I get pretty annoyed at the fact that VHS owners get a
actual release date and get their copy first while LD owners have to wait
God knows how long before they get to buy their copy.  LD owners do not even
get the benefit of knowing the actual date a Disney movie is released.  It
bothers me in the fact that if most LD owners are like me, they probably
actually do buy the movie to keep forever and dont use their VCR for anything
more than recording an occasional TV show off TV.  Seems to me that if 
someone is going to bootleg one of Disney's movies that it can be done just
as easy with a VHS to VHS transfer (with good decks, minimal loss).  But I
refuse to buy the VHS copy to hold me over until they finally release the LD.
(though I might (and probably will) rent it).


It also bothers me somewhat that they are making so many collectible things
now.  (things that are actually sold as collectible as opposed to things
that were once toys for children and have now become rare).  Not to say
that the collectible things they sell arent nice or anything, it's just 
that they (to me) do not  have the same value of the old toys and stuff that
were once mass marketed so that everyone could have them and have since 
become rare. The 'collectible' stuff is now available in limited quantities
and very expensive. I just think that they are almost cheapening themselves
by making the collectible stuff so blatent.  (they, of course, have every
right to do whatever they want with their products).
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:14:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Jul22.1483.4337@channel1>, eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
>      The theatrical re-release of "Pinocchio" looks as though it's going
>      to be a modest money-maker for Disney.  Last year's "101 Dalmatians"
>      made about $50 million, which was enough to set the dogs barking.
>      This time around, though, even wishing upon a star may not help
>      "Pinocchio;" forecasts are that it will make perhaps $25 million
>      before closing by Labor Day.

 good - I hope they don't even make that. Screw them and their stupid video
policy. This myth that they are somehow allowed to milk their product in
anyway they choose and the public should simply sit back and drink it
up is assinine. They have already released the damn movie on video tape and 
made money and most likely will again soon and make a great deal more money
I know I won't feel bad for them. I really wish that most folks just blew
their ridiculous - "oh it really is new and important" ads off and sent them
home with a loss on this release. Their video release policy is absurd and 
is a slap in the face of disney fans everywhere if you ask me. Someone please
explain to me why I should payu 6$-7$ to see this film rather then wait a
couple months and see it at the 1$-$2.50 theaters, particularly since I can 
go down to the local video store and rent it for 99 cents.... 


			gln


>      No official word has been made on the video re-release of
>      "Pinocchio."  I suspect that it will be released in 1993, as
>      Disney has been traditionally waiting one year at most between
>      the theatre and the sell-through video.  Since "Pinocchio"
 
OH MY!!! I thought they needed to wait until there was some significant
advance in video technology before they'd re-release their films on
video - what a pile of sh*t. 

>      does not seem to be a major cash cow in the order of
>      "Dalmatians," I don't think Disney will bother releasing a

 hmmm... could this perhaps have to do with the fact that it was already
released on video and many of us have seen it a million timesw and think that
blowing another $6 to see it again is stupid?

>      P.S.: And if you haven't seen "Pinocchio" in the theatre yet this
>      summer - WHAT are you waiting for?  GO SEE IT!

 No don't - don't support their idea that they can live off the past *over
and over again* every 7-10 years. They are producing quality films and can 
should survive off that quality along with the sales of yet to be released
videos rather than releasing the films for limited periods of time. I'll
be damned if I'll pay $6.50 a head to see Pinnochio or say "Lady and the
Tramp" when I can watch them both for nothing as it is.... like they need the
money....


			gln


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: WDW transportation question
Organization: Salivation Army
Date: 22 JUL 92 13:12:48    


In article <l6r5hiINNf34@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, 
  brenda@bookhouse.Eng.Sun.COM (Brenda Bowden) writes...

>The Unofficial Guide to Disneyland states that if you were at Epcot and wanted
>to return to the Contemporary to get your child down for a nap, it's a lot 
>faster with a car than by monorail

 Either way, that's going to be one heck of a long trip!

 - snopes

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From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Disney Stores List!
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:48:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA / JSC

In article <1992Jul29.131044.1@scivax.stsci.edu> phillips@scivax.stsci.edu
writes:
>

>		Baybrook Mall, Houston   (opening *VERY* soon)

It's open ! And it's as nice as the others that I have seen.

>--
>Jim Phillips					phillips@avion.stsci.edu
>        "I've got claws and adamantium-laced skin.  What makes you think
you're
>so great?"
>        "Well, I use antlers in all of my decorating."
>                                        -- Cyber and Strong Guy, "X-Factor"
>Only 45 more days to "Monsters 'R' Us!"  More Morgana!  ;-)
>
From: nick@trudeau.helios.nd.edu (dominique laflamme)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Various
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:45:59 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

My wife and I stayed at Port Orleans last September, right
after Labor Day.  We were pleasantly surprised by it.  The 
rooms weren't huge or anything, but they were large enough 
for sleeping, changing, or napping, and the grounds provide
room for other kinds of things.  Parking wasn't an issue
for us; we counted on the internal transportation system.
But we were near the parking lot, and the whole complex 
seemed compact enough that even the farthest rooms shouldn't
be too far from the parking lots.

In short, we'd recommend the P.O. to anyone wanting to get
on Disney property as cheaply as possible.  (If we had money
to burn, we'd try the Yacht and Beach Clubs, but who has money
to burn? :-) )

Nick
From: ervin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Deborah Ervin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Help in finding movie title
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:00:08 GMT
Reply-To: ervin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Deborah Ervin)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


I've never seen the movie, but believe you are referring to "The Incredible
Journey."  (I have the book.)

Debbie
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Splash Mountain music
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:21:57 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


In article <92212.114124ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>I did notice that on the "Official" CD from Disneyland/WDW that part of
>the Splash Mountain music is missing.

Did you also notice that Splash Mountain music (from Song of the South)
was included in the "Official" Album of Disneyland/WDW well in advance
of the opening of Splash Mountain at Disneyland?  I heard it for 
sale at a store in the Disneyland Hotel in April, 1989, three months
before the ride finally opened.

Did you also notice that music from a lot of other Disney rides/shows
is missing from their "official" album?  They only include a minimum
number of songs so you will go to the parks for the uncut (hopefully)
versions.
From: adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Fort Wilderness inquiries
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:31:40 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

I would like to hear from any one who has stayed at Fort Wilderness in the
travel trailers there?  Do they really have maid service and is there a micro
wave and air conditioner in all trailers? Dishwasher? How was the
transportation to 
MK and other parks? Where can you pick up transportation to Universal & Sea
World?  Please relay any stories you have of your stay there. Details
appreciated.  Thankyou.

Carole Francis
Disneyite
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.movies
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: DIsney at Subic
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:05:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.051545.13855@iti.gov.sg> hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong) writes:
>Fans of Disneyland and the likes might be interested to know about this
>little snippet that appeared as a wired-report on The Straits Times of
>Singapore: Both Disney Studios and Universal Studios are rumored to be
>interested in the former Subic Airbase abandoned by the US Air Force in
>Phillipines (sp?).  And that's all as far as the report goes...

Disney has officially denied that they are interested in putting a theme
park into Subic Bay.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: sriram@pow.cray.com (Sriram)
Subject: Slides of Disney indoor attractions?
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:52:28 CDT


I am trying to find out if slides of Disney attractions are available
anywhere. I tried the Disney store in Minneapolis; they said only the
parks sell them. Unfortunately I wasn't interested in buying slides
when I was at WDW couple of weeks ago. Does anyone know whether the
parks are willing to ship slides, or about other places where I might
find slides? I am looking for slides of the indoor stuff at the 
attractions (for example good slides of haunted mansion, etc.),
especially of places where flash photography is not allowed.

Thanks.

Sriram.
From: WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney book?
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:38:57 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I just came across a copy of "The Art of Walt Disney" by Christopher Finch.
This copy was published in 1983 by Harry N. Abrams, Inc. and is in great
condition. Does anyone know the current value of these books? The list price
on the jacket cover is $60.

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From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney Pigskin Classic?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:59:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!


  Okay, so I'm listening to my radio to the morning disk jockey when all of
a sudden, there is this announcement of a new contest! (So why would anyone
outside of the Bay Area give a rip, and why are you posting it here? Shaddup!)
Anyway if you are lucky enough to be caller X when you hear Mickey say 
FANTASMIC!, you get tix to the Disney Pigskin Classic, plus 3 nights 
accomodations at the Disneyland hotel, and a two day pass to Disneyland. 
Anyway, the point of all this is....what *is* this? I have been a reasonably
rabid Disney-O-phile for almost three years now, and I have never heard of
this game. Is it real teams, if so, college or pro? Is it Disney characters?
Am I going bonkers?


   Tyger (Totally Discombobulated)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: westcot
From: <LEWCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 31 Jul 1992 01:00:23 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Does anyone have any information about Westcot in Disneyland.
This is the EPCOT version for California.  Are plans made up yet?
Have they started building anything yet?  And where are they going
to put it.  Th parking lot is not that big.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Unofficial Guide to WDW
From: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:30:34 GMT
Reply-To: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX

Who wrote this? I would like to get a copy.

Thanx,

Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: pinocchio
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:47:45 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

>No don't - don't support their idea that they can live off the past *over
>and over again* every 7-10 years. They are producing quality films and can
>should survive off that quality along with the sales of yet to be released
>videos rather than releasing the films for limited periods of time. I'll
>be damned if I'll pay $6.50 a head to see Pinnochio or say "Lady and the
>Tramp" when I can watch them both for nothing as it is.... like they need
>money....

     I think re-releasing old classic movies to theatres is a wonderful
     idea.  The experience of sitting in a movie theatre, with hundreds of
     people around you, and everyone concentrating on the screen, is
     something that you simply can't get from watching a movie on TV by
     yourself.  I made sure to see "Pinocchio" when it premiered a couple
     of weeks ago, and I didn't regret it - even though I already have the
     movie on videotape.

     This is the same reason why such places as the Brattle Theatre are
     still alive and flourishing.  Seeing movies in the theatre is the best
     way to see them.  Often one can only see a movie on video, and that's
     all right - better to have seen "Seven Samurai" and "The African
     Queen" and "Our Hospitality" on video than never to have seen them at
     all - but for a true cinematic experience, go to the theatre.

     On a similar note: there are MANY great movies that are just as fresh
     and lively today as the day they were released, so many years ago -
     and ALL of the movie studios today could be doing what Disney does.
     Imagine the chance to see "Ben Hur" on the big screen again.  (It was
     at the Wang here in Boston last year, but that was a once-in-a-
     lifetime showing only available for a select few who were able to go
     on that one particular night.)  The restoration and re-release of
     "Lawrence Of Arabia" was a success, and I was lucky enough to see that
     movie for the first time when it played at the Charles Theatre.

     I would love it if all of the studios released their classics to
     the theatre on a regular basis.  However, Disney is the ONLY studio
     nowadays that actively promotes is classic movies, and so as a result
     many people today still see "Pinocchio" and "101 Dalmatians" and other
     movies thirty, forty, and fifty years old - while at the same time
     they hold their noses at the thought of seeing movies like "Some Like
     It Hot" or "The Adventures Of Robin Hood" or "Adam's Rib" or "The
     Maltese Falcon," to name a few superb classics of the silver screen.
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