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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Cycle World: the Pot Calling the Kettle Black?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:55:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov14.003645.3317@lclark.edu> garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich) writes:
>A big "DOWN" to Cycle magazine, for advertising motorcycles w/bikini clad
>women atop motorcycle's.  Cycle is obviously condoning this type of riding
>apparel on the street.

Christ on a jetski, man, grab a sense of proportion...Even if you
have a problem with gazing upon the female form divine, others
do not. 

And as for condoning bikinis as riding clothes...Cripes man, if
they want us all in thongs and a smile, why are the road test
editors decked out in leather? I'll give you a hint: It isn't
because they are heavily into S&M.

Now take your politically correct, sanctimonious, and bloody
annoying post, and go.

Regards, Charles
DoD 0.001
RZ350
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Please respond (I suspect something is wrong!!!)
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:19:19 GMT

Bobby Billingsley (bobby@dc.dk) wrote:
: Hi....
: 
: Sorry for any annoyance, but I'm stuck!
: 
: I've been posting to this group since this summer, and it would
: seem that these postings don't get outside Denmark.
: 
: Would a few of you please respond (news|mail) to this article please?
: -- 
:
:  Bobby Billingsley                   : Remember to love while you dare to   :
:: Datacentralen, Denmark              : remember to live while you do so     :
:: Phone: +45 4371-8122 Ext. 3337      :........................-.Piet.Hein...:
:: E-mail: bobby@dc.dk                 : DoD# 80884 : Ride=Yamaha XJ600, 1986 :


Well, I read you loud and clear, in England.


Nick (the HAM Biker)  MAG 73516   DoD 1069   RAE Handbook


M'Lud.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:54:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7211@spdc.ti.com, crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:

>I even discovered that throttle steering on gravel roads works 
>quite well -- I once tossed another street bike trying this.

Throttle steering?

Sure, on a bike with a sidecar, but on a motorcycle?

Enlighten me.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:32:49 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov18.121615.3330@cs.hw.ac.uk> geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang) writes:

> From where I
> come from it's just stupid kids that ever ride without a helmet.

I like to ride without a helmet when I'm trying to find out where that
new funny noise is coming from. Although riding without a helmet is
illegal in the UK, it has become an established custom that the police
don't prosecute you for riding without a helmet if you were doing so
while taking part in an anti helmet-legislation rally.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Leg Protection for cold weather?
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 04:18:56 GMT

You could always walk into the local "Donut Shop" and ask
the 12 policemen what size panty hose they wear, I'd also
have a video tape running from outside so you could tape
the reply. :-)
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#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
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Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leg Protection for cold weather?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 12:12:49 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <skais7k@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:
>For warmth during cool weather (since nothing we've had so far
>in northern Cal could be actually called "cold"), I've been
>wearing spandex athletic shorts under my jeans.  Well, they're
>not really "shorts", since the ones I've been using are
>ankle-length.  

)smirk(  Not to pick on you or anything, but this looks like
a prime example of danskinaphobia - the masculine fear of
wearing tights.  Or, in some cases, (see above) of rationalizing
"Well, yes I'm wearing a skin-tight hip-to-ankle garment, but
they're shorts, or running pants, not tights."  I think we can blame
over-coffee'ed insecure phys-ed coaches for this one.  :)

ObMoto:  I've been told that bicycling shorts are great for easing
 butt-burn.  Comments?


-- 
-
-John H. Osborn                     - Boycott Colorado
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu               - Enforced discrimination MUST NOT STAND
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar     - Queer, Proud, and Angry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:30:48 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Nov14211852@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>I might want to stop riding my bike.  I have always though about the
>possibility of getting into an accident and losing some body parts,
>but it is different when you see it happen!

I've seen my share of accidents on bikes, and it hasn't slowed my desire
to ride.

Motorcycling is dangerous, it's a fact, but it's a chance I have taken willingly
and enthusiastically. The day I am afraid to ride is the day I will have stopped
living, IMHO.

I would rather live with danger than exist with safety.

 -LjM

-- 
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/ Lyle J \ lestat@wixer.cactus.org /  Team Doofus  \ DoD / Nobody else WANTS \
\ Mackey /     Social Engineer     \ '89 Kaw EX500 / 587 \  my  opinions...  /
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From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:47:17 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <349.2B0479D9@kennel.FIDONET.ORG>, john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
> 
> The hot ZX-11's come to the USA. Of course its a good idea to show it here! :-)
> 
> Your pressman doesn't go as fast as we do in the USA. We never get arrested.
> What was he doing going 80mph on a 180mph rocket? Or, was he used to scooters
> and Harley-Davidsons?
> 
> John

I don't want to tell you biography of this pressman, but he got 280 Kmh with a
stock 91' ZX-11 (tested with a "Made in USA" Falcon radar). His colleagues also
test performances of scooters and Harleys.... Or do you think that a
magazine of motorcycles should only treat of high-performance japanese bikes?

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD #1033
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ABATE Voter's Guide
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:21:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 25062@ttinews.tti.com, paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:

>It may produce controversy, it is not meant to.  

Well, then, I'll do my best to frame a reply that will!  :^)

>Freedom of choice.  A person can do what they want as long as it
>does not hurt their neighbor. 

A libertarian philosophy, neither donkey nor elephant (nor ears), that
one.

> From that, one would think that
>the same people who are pro choice on abortion would be anti-helmet law
>and vice versa. 

Not the vice versa part.  The pro-life lobby would claim that abortion
does not fit into your qualifier of "does not hurt their neighbor," as
they believe the fetus to have human status, and thus it qualifies as a
"neighbor."

> It is not so... at least among politicians.

Politicians aren't consistant between their alleged ideals and their
voting.  Gee, I know *I'm* shocked!

>More Democrats than Republicans are pro-choice when it comes
>to abortions, but not helmets. 

Democrats in general believe in more government regulation, and more
"protection" for the common person, so the helmet law support is not
surprizing.  Their united stance on abortion is atypical, and is
primarily a direct result of the strong stance the Republican party has
taken on the issue.

> More Republicans than Democrats
>are pro-choice when it comes to helmets, but not abortions.

The helmet law stance follows from the Republican philosophy of
non-governmental interference (which is completely reversed by the WoD,
I didn't say they were consistent).  The abortion stance is the result
of the fundamentalist right wing of the party playing hardball, and
does not reflect the concensus of Republicans or Republican politicians
(according to polls).


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Engine "Blueprinting"?
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:05:41 GMT

While puttering around in Dover NJ last month I stopped
at Steves Speed shop and was looking at a motor they have
on the floor (no. its's mounted on a engine stand that is
standing on the floor) and he had 4 different "finishes"
on the cylinder walls one finish looked kind rough and they
graduated to a "mirror" finish. There was quite a bit of
price difference from 1-4. Would the super mirror finish
provide any advantages on the street or is it not worth
the "triple the price". The guy holding up the counter on
this particular sat had no "real" answer and after 10 min
of expounding on the subject said he really didn't know.
Woulda made a good politician he woulda.
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                 and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
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Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:27:53 GMT

In article <By2r2M.B7B@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>> In general I consider
>>people riding without reflective stickers not to be a REAL biker.
>I agree, with the stipulation that said stickers must be round, 2" in
>diameter, and bear the likeness of a particularly geeky looking daemon.

what say Arnie? DoD the "safety first" motorcycle club?

----------
cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu
DoD #760			"fire all of your guns at once!"
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Indian???? BSA???
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:11:23 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>...did BSA aquire indian or something...different

davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) replies:
>  At no time did Indian ever have a business relationship with BSA
>(British Small Arms).
  ^^^^^^^
  bzzzzzt!!  Birmingham Small Arms.

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: gnome@pd.org (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: O! Joy and happiness abound in my heart
Summary: I got a bike!
Keywords: bike Suzuki mine dog
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:58:11 GMT
Organization: The Laughing Gnome Software Farm
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

It's been three long months since I finished the MSF course, and I
finally got a bike!

Alan F. got to my appartment at ~1930 last night in his pickemup
truck, and we headed over to the guy's place, tossed the bike in
the back, and headded back to my place to drop it off.  Then, I
celebrated!

Details: 1982 Suzuki GS 850 GL.  In-line four, DOHC, shaft drive,
air cooled.  And quite rusty.  The crash bars have been ground
down on *both* sides, there appears to be some little plastic side
covers which are broken or missing, the seat needs duct tape, the
speedo apparently doesn't work, and the tach is missing entirely.
Two of the four chrome cam shaft covers are broken off, neither
mirror appears to be original, one or the other of the handgrips
has been replaced (maybe both), and a partridge in a pear tree.

Aside from that, it seems to be in pretty good shape.  :-)
Hopefully, I'll take it for a little spin tonight, and tomorrow
Alan, Troy, and I will get together and watch the rain come down.
I think I remember some ancient anti-rain ritual which involves
beer.  I'll try to remember for Saturday.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to joining y'all on the road.

  -Mike

Mike Mitten - gnome@pd.org - ...!emory!pd.org!gnome - DoD#522
Irony is the spice of life.
From: karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HONDA GB500 - club racer single.
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:01:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <BxMq4L.FrJ@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>In article <DUKE.92Nov12131222@portal.paperboy.osf.org> duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard) writes:
>
>>One thing though--the tires are really small: 90/90 in the front and
>>100/90 in the rear.  It's about time for me to get new ones...
>
>Well, can you stand German tires for a change?  Metzeler seems to be
>holding its own in the performance wars, and I have 100/90-18 and 110/90-18
>on my Seca.  Im pretty sure that the diam. of your rims puts you in the league
>for a Laser front and a ME55 rear. These tires have worked well for me for 10k
>miles, with the rear (used to be a ME99) going at 7k.  Front still has ~1k to
>go before replacement.  

I just put a ME77 on my GB's rear rim (the listed size was 4.00 x 18, but
I was warned that tire sizes vary from manufacturer to manufacturer).  It's
done a good job on the first 800 miles I gave it; the bike feels much more
responsive with a properly-round tire on the back.

Karen Black
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: fucking BDI motorcycle drivers
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:56:37 GMT

marrevola@rediris.es wrote:
: In article <1992Nov17.193035.11161@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
: > So pull onto the shoulder, slow or stop for a few seconds, to get him
: > ahead of you, and then use your superior accelleration to get you
: > safely back into the traffic flow.
: > -- 
: > Jonathan E. Quist                           INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
: 
: Thanks God, a responsible guy!!!
: 
: manolo@taf.fundesco.es

Yes, but so boring and a posting quite outside the spirit and raison d'etre of
jolly old wreck-dot-motos.  Sad, really....


Nick (the Fiery BS Merchant Biker) MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Mr. Bean gets a bike


M'Lud.
From: cobra@ziggys.cts.com 619/262-6384 (Ron Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:32:29 GMT
Organization: Ziggy's Den Of Iniquity, East of East SD CA

geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang) writes:

} I have seen a lot of hostility against helmet laws in this newsgroup, and the
} 
} But why on earth would anyone *NOT* wear a helmet. A guy with a 100$ head wea
} 
} On the other side. If you can't take care of yourself, perhaps you don't dese
} 
} Geir


I must admit, I



I must admit, I don't consider myself a "biker" --it's not a hobby for 
me; not a lifestyle, it just gets me to school and work at highway speed.

I wear a helmet--wouldn't think of riding without one (saved my life once 
already).
But I object to the LAW requiring it.

I've spoken with a couple guys I know that also ride, some are eager 
enthusiasts.  We've come to the consensus that it's NOT the actual issue 
of
whethere or not its safe to ride one, but an issue of choice--choice that 
has been taken away wether or not we would normally choose to wear a 
helmet anyway.

The problem seems to be that the Insurance Lobbies have finally passed 
this law when it really wasn't necessary to make it a state legal issue.
The insurance companies could easily have resolve WITHIN their industry 
that people who don't wear helmets pay a higher premium; or that people 
who get caught in an accident without a helmet don't get their 
settlements, or get lower settlements.

The thing that pisses a lot of us off (and I admit, I'm taking quite a 
liberty to speak for many whose opinions I haven't gathered) is that IT 
DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A DOGMATIC "DO IT OR DON'T RIDE AT ALL" type of 
dictatorial paternalistic attitude which fails to treat motorcyclers as 
Human Beings with abilities to make such judgements for themselves.

--$30 please; but I'll give you change in pennies so you can put up
a few cents-worth of your own........


              cobra@ziggys.cts.com - BBS (619)262-6384
                 Ziggy's Den Of Iniquity
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier - Sun - Coventry.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: UK - Motorcycle Show
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:48:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

We're meeting by the Yamaha GTS1000 at 12:00 on Saturday 5th Dec.
I couldn't get through to Nick on datasbld@bnr.ca so I hope you read this.

         #                                           # Let's not talk about
   _     #     Roger.Collier@Uk.Sun.COM              # love and flowers and
o_/_\_o  #                                           # things that don't
 (O_O)   #     Sun Microsystems, Coventry, England.  # explode. I've used up
  \H/    #     (44) 203 692255                       # all of my magic powers
   U     #                                           # trying to do it in the
      DoD#226  GSXR1100L                             # road.
               Keeper of the GSXR1100 list.

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From: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Subject: personal to ROBERT SMITS (ladysmith BC)
Reply-To: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:29:45 GMT

    I'm very interested in Phil Funnel's story about his trip to Tierra Del Fuego.
I'd really like to get a copy of those articles published in Cycle Canada.
Photocopies would be great but I've got no e-mail!! 
I write down my address if you mind a little help (says Henri, stretching his
hand forward!!).

Henri Quiniou
Elgin Business Inn 
180 MacLaren st.
Ottawa, Ont.
K2P 0L3

Thanx
From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:24:35 GMT
Organization: IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View, California USA

In article <BxvKzz.2n1@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:

>Now that I've gotten the course layed out (;^), I'll have to get buy-in from my
>spouse (no easy task), and (of course) a bike up to the task. This is where the
>net.wisdom comes in!  =:^O
> what would you ride on a 10,000 mile trip?

I'd do it on a BMW R100 GS.  If you're buying a used one, add a custom
seat, some sort of fairing, and an aftermarket shock.  I can recommend
Corbin for the seat and Fox for the shock.  The fairing -- I don't
know, but I'd like to add one to my bike.

--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Why I ride
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:37:53

"osborn" == John Howard Osborn <osborn@cs.utexas.edu> writes:


osborn> ...I can make the statistics look pretty good.  I can't
osborn> eliminate them but if it was risk-free, it probably wouldn't
osborn> be worth doing.  I want to LIVE, not just exist.


Amen to that.
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:28:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.211804.5858@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>
>Sheesh! Where do these people come from.  Just forget one little smiley....

Darwin was English. 
Thought everyone knew that......

-John
     "I'm sure I'd be much more upset if I weren't so heavily sedated."
                                 --David St. Hubbins--
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