From: cjr6495@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher James Rogers)
Subject: Re: STRUCTURE OF TIME
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:05:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.124538.28823@ugle.unit.no> kim@Lise.Unit.NO (Kim Gunnar St|vring \yhus) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.091054.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>, hporopudas@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
> > 
> > In article <1992Sep24.102014.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>,
> > hporopudas@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>
> >      "I think that atheistic scientists are fully reponsible for ordinary
> >    peoples sufferings in all over the world, when they have instructed them
> >    to reject God's good doctirine given in The Holy Bible. This doctrine
> >    teaches ordinary people to respect good. Now this kind of respection
> >    does not exist and good peoples who respect good are considered to be mads.
> >    You all "wise scientists" should know that this means only one thing,
> >    namely that all kind of evil will be in full power in all around the world."
>
>So the scientists are responsible for the suffering of all the people who
>got vaccinated against rabies and other deaseases, the suffering of the
>people not starving because of better crops and fertilizers, the suffering
>of the people successfuly operated or medicated, the suffering av women
>who don't have to do grueling house-work because of machines, the suffering
>of people warm by electricity and fuel, the suffering of learning how the
>universe work, and so on.
>
>And as for the 'good' doctrine of God: Have you forgotten that people like
>you used to BURN people like me, just for telling truth? The doctrine of
>the Bible is being used to kill and exploit indians, oppress women,
>overpopulate the world, condemn homosexuals, making disablement of people
>just punishment, and learning children lies, for example,
>all in the name of God.
>
>No, it's not us atheistic scientists who are evil. We just try to find truth.
>You, however, who think you are good, but actually hurt people, are the
>evil ones. I have met enough people of your kind to be very certain you 
>are bad. It's sad how you'r selfish meme fool nice people into doing bad
>while thinking good.
>
>And you want us to be in the eternal flame.

Well...  this is an interesting argument.  I have noticed that people tend to 
seperate science from religion.  There seems to be two reasons for this.  
         
         1) Upbringing - if you were taught from birth that Satan was exactly 
                        like god, you probably would not question it. 

         2) Prevention of bias - so that scientists will not make up info to 
                                 fit their beliefs.

This has led to the misunderstanding that science is evil and god is good.  
Now while I don't disagree with the latter, I sincerly disagree with the
former.  Just because God is beyond our understanding, doen't mean that he has
to use methods beyond our understanding.  After all, he is supposed to want us
to mature and learn and try to use that for good, right?

As for the Bible being used as a basis for attacks,  I am sad to say that is 
correct.  Unfortunatly, people have throughout time tried desperatly to 
"clean up" this world, and, in the process, have managed to misinterpret the
Bible and Jesus Christ's teachings.  Ever hear the saying "the Bible is the 
most misunderstood book in the world?"

I may end up getting flamed for this, too.  I can only say that I am trying to
get these groups off each other's necks for a moment so they can see that they
may both be right.

Later!
C J Rogers