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From: rhett@utkvx2.utk.edu (changes in latitude changes in attitude)
Subject: Re: Cherokee Parks is is WAAAAAAAAAAAY Overrated
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:29:00 GMT

In article <30633@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes...
>In article <C1I855.9tn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
>> Also, don't you all think that Ed O'Bannon is also very overrated?
> 
> 
> No - I don't. I also do not think Kidd is overrated. The problem is that
>after you read 100 articles and hear reports about how incredible these
>kids are you expect them to be almost supermen - the type that should
>get 50 points, 20 rebounds, and 35 assists a game. 

guys think about it just a second. While Parks may be overheralded a little
because of the team he plays for, consider you can't compare points and
rebounds of Parks with most other teams. How many rebounds are there in one
game? and what percentage of those can a guy pull down with the Hills and Clark
around the rim too? points?  It would be nice to see the chief score some more
but he has to have the ball to do it. We all know he is not Duke's first threat
to score. When you have hurley and the Hills you don't have to ride a center to
a victory every night like some other teams. 


                                                    Praying for mercy tonight
                                                        RHETT

Vandy at UT 7:30, could they, naw, probably not.

> 
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From: michaelv@iastate.edu (Michael L. VanLoon)
Subject: Salutes to Iowa's Chris Street
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:12:34 GMT

In <1993Jan20.221436.26782@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

>At the beginning of the game before the national anthem, they had about 15
>seconds of silence for Chris Street.  A very nice gesture...

>Also, Ohio State was wearing black bands on their jerseys.  I don't think I
>saw them before, so they probably were for Street as well.  Another very
>nice gesture...

All the Iowa State players wore Chris' #40 either on their ankles or
shoes in salute of Iowa's Chris Street in the game played this evening
against Southern Utah State.  ISU's Fred Hoiberg was quotes as saying
that it was a good thing they were playing a lighter game this evening
as the entire team was in a very somber and reflective mood.  He went
on to mention that he wasn't able to sleep all night because of the
tragedy.

While I may be a rabid anti-Hawkeye, I would never wish harm on
anyone.  I send my deepest heartfelt condolances and sympathies to
both Chris' family and his fellow teammates, and wish them the very
best during this somber time.


-- 
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From: jframe@unlv.edu (Jason Frame)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:54:22 GMT
Organization: UNLV

In article <1k6fgcINNnkb@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy) writes:
>Who's that guy out at UNLV?  Doesn't he lead the NCAA Div.I with 
>something like 55% ?
>
   I think you are talking about Kenny Gibson, the one who played at
Illinois a few years back.
>
>-- 
>Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu 
>--
>
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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Re: K-Who?
Keywords: K-Who?  Tarheels #1
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:29:54 GMT

In article <C1Gz68.ABG@unccsun.uncc.edu> tecardwe@uncc.edu writes:

>North Carolina's only loss was to Michican by 1 pt in .1 seconds
>This game was played 5+ hour of Tarheel Standard Time  (HAWAII) 
>NEUTRAL SITE ..... NO HOME LOSSES & NO AWAY LOSSES

Just you wite, Mr. HIggins, just you wite...  let's withold the application
until after the applicant (supplicant?) receives Extreme Unction at Cameron
as well at home against FSU...

>
>Thanks to whoever posted the Long Beach State victory by 15 pts over
>Kansas at Kansas?

for a fan with an opinion you sure have a funny way of keeping abreast.

>UNC is #1   one buzzer beater loss
>Kansas #2   one blowout loss
	     ^^^-- *Twoooooooooooooo*.... *Twoooooooooooo* blowout losses...
>IU --- #3   two loses.
                 ^^^^^--on FTs.  Since then IU has fixed that.  Any person
who looks at the present Indiana team through the prism of those two loses
is seeting themselves for a burst bubble.  I very much doubt Dean Smith is,
so it behoovbes the Tar fannies to follow (His) suit...

				-- Marek

The way to bet is Indiana vs. North Carolina in the final, but of course,
the world being what it is, it is Iowa State all the way.

:)
From: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Opinions on Dick Vitale
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:26:36 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <9119@news.duke.edu> whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
>In article <2555@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wdsst3@cislabs.pitt.edu (William D Sands) writes:
>>In article <9103@news.duke.edu> whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
>>	I will be saddened by Valvano's death as much as by
>>the loss of any other person, but where is it written that
>>when a person is nearing his demise, he is promoted to godlike
>>status, regardless of what his/her behavior was before this
>>demise?  Sure Valvano always TALKED a good game, regarding
>>					-Bill S.
>
>
>Hey, I was just saying I thought he was the best announcer.  Never said
>anything about his coaching.  I'm an ACC fan and used to get pissed by
>the way Jimmy V's teams used to perform in the Washburn era in the
>NCAA's.  His coaching ability was about average for the ACC.  His
>recruiting was questionable and his graduation rates low.  He never was
>in the elite of college coaches.  I recognize that, but I do think he is
>a great announcer, and the Vitale-Valvano tandem the most entertaining
>thing in basketball besides the game.  Better than the game if you are
>talking "Big Monday".  Providence vs. Villanova.  Moan...
>
PLEEAASSSSE!

Jim Valvano came to ESPN and watched Vitale for a while and decided he wanted
to be "just like him".  My God!  Watching those two act like complete morons
in front of a national TV audience made me want to scream! How much you want
to bet that JimV. never used the expression "Baby" before ESPN?  
In defense though, Tuesdays are better when DickV is gone: JimV gives his
"lesson" which is interesting, but he doesn't have to yell to get his point
across.


RStimets
From: keleher@cs.tulane.edu (William Keleher)
Subject: Re: Possesion Arrow
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-25982]: venus
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:25:03 GMT


(Orin Day) writes:
> ...
> Other situations where possession is decided by the arrow are
> the first possession of the second half, and a couple less common
> happenings such as when two players touch the ball at the same time
> before it goes out of bounds, or the ball is stuck between the rim
> and the backboard.

  An even less common happening: when players from both teams commit
a simultaneous lane violation on the last FT (i.e. front end of a 1-1,
2nd on 2-shot, and 3rd on a 3-pt shooting violation), possession goes
with the arrow.
								   -Wm.
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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:32:20 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) wrote:
}
}	I haven't looked at the stats recently, but I doubt UK has too high
}	of a 3-pt percentage.  Last year, they hovered aroung 34% which was
}	close to the bottom in the SEC. 

The 'Cats do, however, lead the NCAA in 3-pointers made per game.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

        "I only think about injustice when it happens to me."   
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado (Tim Chandler))
Subject: Re: UNC defeats Seton Hall
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:51:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.205534.19727@samba.oit.unc.edu> Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill) writes:

>A tough game versus Florida State this Wednesday at the Smith Center.
>FSU is the third consecutive UNC Wednesday opponent to beat Duke the
>Sunday before.  I'm expecting the Smith Center crowd to give Sam "Wine and
>Cheese" Cassell a nice welcome back.

Really now Curt, we all know different. Here is a brief summary of the game
(assuming Dick and Jimmy are doing the announcing):

Dick: And Phelps passes the ball inside to Montross for the monster slam baby!

Jimmy: Sam Cassell inbounds the ball to Charlie Ward, but Bobby Sura rushes
       in to take the ball. He runs down court...drives into the lane...
       he shoots....Montross slams the ball outta the air!

Dick: UNC brings the ball back down court...Lynch feeds the ball to Montross
      under the basket for the SUPER SLAMMIN DUNK!!! IT'S AWESOME BAAAABY!!!

Jimmy: More Brie Dickie?

Dick: No thanks, Jimmy, but pour me other glass of that AWESOME Spumante!!!

Jimmy: Look at Sura taking the ball back down court...he charging up the
       middle...

Dick: OH, LOOK AT MONTROSS....HE'S GIVING SURA THE "LOOK OF DEATH"...OH!!!
      SURA'S HEAD JUST EXPLODED!!! IT'S TOTALLY AWESOME...I CAN'T BELIEVE
      IT!!! MONTROSS WITH THE NBA DEFENSIVE PLAY!!! OH, PAT KENNEDY BETTER
      CALL A TIME OUT. T.O. BABY, T.O.!!!
>
>
>--
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>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

Kevin (ok, so it may not be quite like that, they might drink a chablis, or
       maybe some mild cheddar)


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From: tecardwe@uncc.edu (Thomas E Cardwell)
Subject: Re: The Biggest Upset of the Decade?
Reply-To: tecardwe@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:41:19 GMT

Absolutely Agree     I saw that game between Richmond and Syracuse
This was the Biggest Upset of the Decade.


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From: jmk.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Jim Kirkman)
Subject: Re: Duke Blues
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:03:57 GMT

>
>I wouldn't venture to speak for anyone else, but I for one am laying low
>and letting the Tar Hole fans embarrass themselves.  Wow.  A couple of
>these guys make me think the Legislature ought to rename Carolina again,
>this time to UMASS!!!-Chapel Hill.  Curtis, wherefore art thou, Curtis??
>
>Well, I'll agree with you up through the ACC Tournament.  I just went
>and plunked down my $140.00 to watch us get upset in the semis.  Oh
>well, you gotta take the bad with the good, and God knows it could be
>worse (I could be a State fan...).
>
>- Rob Mac K
>
>
>-- 
>*ROB Mac K - The Man, The Myth, The Legend.  As if. ***********************
>*        [}uke             1991 National Champions      "At least we      *
>*          Blue Devils:    1992 National Champions    don't still suck."  *
>****************************************************** rjm1@acpub.duke.edu*

Don't count on this Tar Heel fan for any stupid, embarrassing, hex 
inducing comments! One question Rob, how did you qualify for tourney tix?
and so early in the season, and get me some while you're at it.!
 They have a student signup and drawing 
here (not that I would qualify!) but I don't think its happened yet.

I don't know about others but FSU makes me nerrrrrrvousss! Dean hadn't a
clue last year and they are so damn quick our traps may not have the 
effectiveness they've shown so far. Anyway I'm starting to get pumped 
and am looking for a nice Beaujolais and some brie to take with me 
to section 130.

Planning to make some noise
L.P.


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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: National POTY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:21:44 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <2031@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> kdougan@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kelly Dougan) writes:
>Here's another good way to start a flame war.  I know it's only a little over
>half way thru the season, but who's everyone's pick for national player of the
>year?
>
>
>Mr. Kelly Dougan



Calbert Chaney - IU

(Actually, if we look at it as to which player has had the greatest impact
on their teams success...

	Glenn Robinson of Purdue ... With him, a top 20 team, without him,
	Big Ten Basement...)
-- 
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VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Need help with team losses
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:37:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1993Jan28.000014.5556@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu writes:
>>|In article <1993Jan27.183156.29163@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, raymond@harp.ecn.purdue.edu (Ray Kamin) writes:
>>|>I am trying to compile a list of who beat the
>>|>following teams.  Please fill in any blank
>>|>you can and email me.  I will post the 
>>|>completed table.
>>|>...
>
>Georgia Tech lost to Kentucky in the Kuppenheimer Classic.

Ahem.

Georgia Tech lost to Kentucky in Rupp Arena.
Georgia Tech beat Louisville in the Kuppenheimer Classic.

I was present for both contests.

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^  Dr. J(effrey Neil Burch)                 jb118@prism.gatech.edu    ^
^  Georgia Tech Research Institute                                    ^ 
^  Electro-Optics and Physical Sciences Laboratory                    ^
^  Atlanta, Georgia                                                   ^
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^  404-894-3628                   be lucky than good.                 ^
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: zureick@ucunix.san.uc.edu (John H. Zureick)
Subject: Re: Cincinnati #6 ???  NOT!
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:06:13 GMT

In article <1k7bv1INNdd0@scallop.cis.ohio-state.edu> atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu (mark edward atchison) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.200213.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> msherrick@kean.ucs.mun.ca (Mike Sherrick) writes:
>
>Any criticism of the overall level of play in the GMC is certainly founded.
>DePaul is awful -- certainly lower division in this year's Big 10 -- and that's
>the toughest opponent the GMC has to offer Cincy.  Overrated or not, their
>conference sucks.
>
>-- 

I differ on Depaul.  It's a long season and teams improve from beginning to
the end.  Right now, Marquette, UAB and Memphis are probably playing
better than Depaul, but Depaul is improving.  

I think the GMC conference was rated 4th in the latest Sagarin Ratings.
The GMC is only a six team conference and there is only one weak team-
St. Louis.  The others: Cincinnati, Depaul, Memphis State, Alabama-
Birmingham and Marquette can play with anybody.

Just because the GMC is not featured on Big Monday, Fat Tuesday,
Wacky Wednesday or Big Money Thursday doesn't mean it is not a 
good conference.

But we here at Cincinnati would be glad to join the Big Ten if you can 
find an opening.


-- 
John H. Zureick					zureick@ucunix.san.uc.edu
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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Lets's all agree...Duke is #1 (Not!)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:39:55 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 15694@watson.ibm.com, lutz@shredder.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Lutz) writes:
>In <1993Jan27.163041.5043@spcvxb.spc.edu> pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>>Best conferance in the country is the ACC..So all you big tens...step off!
>>
>>Duke < North Carolina < Virginia < Georgia Tech.....
>>
>>Please...
>>
>>As for Duke, they are the best team in the country along with North Carolina...
>>
>>Michigan is the best team in the big ten..
>>
>>Who makes up the rankings!?
>>1. Duke 
>>2. North Carolina
>>3. Seton Hall
>>4. Kentucky
>>5. Indiana
>>..
>>..
>>10 Kansas
>>11 Cinci...
>
>What planet are you on?  Duke #1?  Not remotely!  In the ACC so far...
>
>Duke loses to Ga. Tech, UNC beats Ga. Tech
>Duke loses to Virginia, UNC beats Virginia
>Duke loses to Florida State, UNC beats Florida State
>
>Need I say more? There should be little doubt that UNC is the *best* team in
>the ACC and possibly the country.

Umm, well, probably UNC is playing some of the best basketball in the country
right now, but there is still doubt about whether they are the best team in
the country or even in the ACC.  All 3 of the tough ACC opponents you cited
had to play in the Dean Dome.  If Carolina can do it on the road (sooner or
later!) then I will be convinced.  For now, however, I do think they deserve
their shot on the #1 throne.

>
>And in the Big Ten, Indiana has already defeated Michigan *at* Ann Arbor!!!! 
>I think Indiana fans have a legitimate claim to be the best in the Big Ten.
>
>---
>Dave Lutz              
>
>"Gentlemen!  You can't fight in here.  This is the *War* Room!" 
>                                    - U.S. President in _Dr. Strangelove_




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From: hartig@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott E Hartig)
Subject: Re: National POTY
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:13:32 GMT

In article <cogar-260193084158@cogarmac.nswc.navy.mil> cogar@cogarmac.nswc.navy.mil (John R Cogar) writes:
>
>Calbert Chaney--Indiana  (sorry if I spelled his name wrong-he's great)

I'd love to agree with you (as big an IU fan as I am) but just because
he's who he is:

Hurley (puke).

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Long Beach State 49's change their nickname
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:45:55 GMT


Rumor has it that Long Beach State 49-ers are going to change their team
name from "49-ers" to ..."49-ers" to commemorate their historic plastering
of a No. 1 Team in the Country by holding it down to exactly 49 points.

No word yet on the new team emblem, but suggestions include a certain bird
framed in a "no-parking" circle interpolated with the digits "4" and "9".
The bird appears somewhat flattened, as if ran over...

More details as California Dreamin' graphics artists finalize the touches...

touche'!!

				-- Marek

"sometimes it's better not to have a maskot" -- a Hoooooosier in an off year.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Womens' arenas???
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:47:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

   At UW-Milwaukee, the men play at the 11,052 seat MECCA, the old home
   of the Milwaukee Bucks. A great place to see a game. The men also play
   a couple home games at the Klotsche Center, which seats around 4,000
   uncomfortably. The women play all their games there.

   --salty


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From: keleher@cs.tulane.edu (William Keleher)
Subject: Who's Stupider Here? (Charlie Ward stuff)
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26687]: venus
Keywords: Charlie Ward, FSU, dumb-off
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:29:33 GMT


> > (Paul M Mweene) writes:
> >Wow! The girl thinks her first boyfriend is the worlds best lover.....
> >Charlie Ward is a beneficiary of the Dion Neon Sanders syndromme. A
> >totally average player in baseball finds himself acclaimed in the
> >sport simply because of the hype value- which he has earned ONLY in
> >football...

   Uh-huh.  In an ESPN report during the football season, Dean Smith
said Ward was "the best point guard I've ever seen."  I'm inclined to
think that old Dean knows a little about the subject...

> (D. Head) replies:
> Boy, from the previous article I thought it was just ignorance you suffered
> from.  But now you just proved you have an excuse for that ignorance ...
> STUPIDITY!  Go get a book from the library and first learn a bit about the
> game of basketball before you totally embarrass yourself here on the net!
> By the way, that "average" player scored 20 points at Clemson last night to
> help lead TOP 25 Florida State to a win!

   Gee, FSU beat Clemson?  On their home court?  Next thing you know,
they'll be knocking off the Mighty Pitt Panthers.

								     -Wm.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: pimmel@eagles.cs.wisc.edu (David Pimmel)
Subject: Re: The Biggest Upset of the Decade?
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:00:13 GMT

In article <1k2ekvINN6kf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>Kansas was blown out by Long Beach State.  Is this the biggest upset of the
>decade?
>

>However, Long Beach State defeated UNLV at home earlier this season.  It's a
>good team, and they were at the bottom of the Top 25 earlier this year (Slipped
>out about 3 or 4 weeks ago).
>
>Still, Kansas was ranked #1, and at home.  This has to be one of the biggest
>chokes I can remember.
>
>
>Mike
>-- 

I would have to disagree.  As you mentioned LBS is a fairly well-respected 
team.  The two biggest upsets I can remeber are as follows.

1.  Sampson's final year at UVA.  They go to Hawaii ranked #1 (or close) and
	lose to an NAIA team.  Sure there was a very conterversial clock
	problem, 9ie.  a magic 5 second, 1 second tick), but the game should
	not of been even close

2. The second great upset was not as large a disprepancy in stature, but it was
	for the national title.  I, of course, mean Villanova's miracle win
	over the defending national champ Hoyas of Georgetown.  

Those would be my picks for the two biggest.  I'm sure others have choices of
their own.
-- 

David Pimmel              Some say the glass is half-full,      
pimmel@cs.wisc.edu            Some say the glass is half-empty,
				I say the glass is just too big.x