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From: Michael.Whitlatch@f460.n3625.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Whitlatch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X11R5
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:13:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: remote.722438907.AA22024

Hello All!

    G'morning or so!
    Yep another newbie to Linux with a question!
    I've managed to get the setup for 640x480 resolution with the 8900c
card, but have had no luck to date with the mouse installation.. I've
tried Microsoft and busmouse but I'm really not sure what tty I should
be pointing it at (Microsoft Inport Mouse). startx gives me a nice blue
screen with the Xclock in the top left corner, and a box with a pointer
in the middle of the screen, and seems to go no further.
    What should be happening from this point? Anyone with any ideas
would be of GREAT help!
Thanks for your time and attention!
Michael

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From: berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org (Berk Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Prime time still awaits Linux and more
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 07:31:41 PST
Organization: Private for Now

I loaded the SLS and it works like a CHARM!!! (of course the pl updates 
would break it, totally) Kudos to Linus, et al.

As you might see from the message/post number, this message is being 
brought to you through DOS/Waffle... :( (actually not :(..) QUESTIONS:

Can Linux support the BOX (Basic Onboard Executive) of Arnet serial 
boards? ( I can provide hard copy to 1 if (s)he would like to write a 
driver.)  

I provide a full newsfeed, and NEED system continuity - can anyone guess 
when the improvements won't break everything else (no, I don't have a 
ball to gaze in, either.. Linus B.T.?)

I have NO FTP access.. I think I'm lucky to be this close.  Anyone who 
would like to help me in getting a "stable" Linux, when available 
welcome.  I would like to be a part of this landmark project.


Berk Walker                           berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem w/P4 and EMACS
From: Greg Wettstein <NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:23:21 CST
 edu> <danielce.721867340@munagin><92321.085204NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Excuse me, please change all references of 0.96-PL6 to 0.97-PL6.  Got
to get CNEWS running under Linux so I can get off this mainframe,
backspace doesn't work..... :-(

                            As always,
                            Dr. G.W. Wettstein
                            Oncology Research Division Computing Facility
                            Fargo Clinic / MeritCare

                            UUCP: uunet!plains!wind!greg
                            INTERNET: greg%wind.uucp@plains.nodak.edu
                            Phone: 701-234-2833

`The truest mark of a man's wisdom is his ability to listen to other
 men expound their wisdom.'
From: sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stephen Tweedie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Disk de-fragmenter??
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:25:38 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh Dept. of Computer Science, Scotland

In article <92Nov22.164015ast.219@ug.cs.dal.ca>, pitzel@ug.cs.dal.ca (brad John pitzel) writes:
> Are there any disk defragmentation utilities available for linux (or
> the minix file system)??  I find these utils invaluable under dos,
> and considering the amount of swapping that goes on in my machine
> under Linux (need more memory :-> ), I'm sure a linux partition
> could benefit..

I've got a defragmenter working for extfs.  It works - it successcully
defragmented a 90% full 100MB partition for me, and cut the time for a
full boot into xdm from 38 to 27 seconds.  (This was at a point where
frag was reporting something like 50% block fragmentation).  But - in
its current state it thrashes the disk somewhat; there are a lot of
optimisations I would want to do before releasing it (like buffering
and sorting reads).  It's based on the efsck code, so the inode/indtab
walking ought to be correct.  Is there much interest in getting this
thing tidied up?

Cheers,
 Stephen Tweedie.
---
Stephen Tweedie <sct@uk.ac.ed.dcs>   (Internet: <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>)
Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University, Scotland.
From: kroeker@oc1.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Kroeker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Results : Supported tape drives
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:26:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University, Darmstadt, Germany

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Results : Supported tape drives
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Technical University, Darmstadt, Germany
Keywords: QIC-02 streamers

This is the promised summary to my survey regarding tape streamers for Linux.
Unfortunately I received only three messages, so either these things are not
yet widely used - or was it just a stupid question ???
Anyway, these seem to work:
1) Wangtek 5125 with an Archive 400 S card
2) Wangtek 5150 EN
3) Wangtek 5099 EN24 Rev.D with Wangtek PC-36 controller 
   (this is a 60MB QIC-36 streamer)
Additionally, the release notes accompanying the Linux qic-02 driver mention 
the Wangtek 5150 EQ.

Thank you for your assistance.
Martin
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|Universitaet (TH) Darmstadt                          db7p@ddathd21.bitnet|
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: quale@spock.cs.wisc.edu (Doug Quale)
Subject: Re: union wait
Organization: Undergraduate Projects Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:50:31 GMT

In article <kenc.722383317@sol> kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ken Corey - Operator) writes:
>hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>
>>Include <sys/wait.h>, You are home free. If your software ueses "union wait"
>>directly, rather than wait macros, fix your software. That will make it
>>more portable.
>
>
>Don't forget, <wait.h> defines the union wait structure as an 'int *'.  
>Simply search and replace using your favorite editor, and things should work 
>out just fine.  At least *i*'ve gotten good results...your mileage may vary.
>

I probably *really* shouldn't post this, since this hasn't been well
tested or even thought out, but

John T. Kohl (I hope I remembered his name correctly, apologies if I
goofed, he is now active in 386BSD) did a port of BSD make (pmake) to
Linux in the early days.  It was binary only (he would provide source
to those who asked, but I was too lazy).  BSD make makes the most
egregious use of union wait I can imagine -- it uses the structure
elements as lvalues (it assigns to them).  The code is full of
statements such as

status.w_retcode = 1;

and so on.  These are extremely tedious to fix by hand (there are a lot
of them), and I am lazy, so I stole a bit of BSD Net-2 <sys/wait.h> and
pmake compiled with only the addition of a fake utimes(2) (H.J. has told
me that utimes() will be in the 4.2 library) and it even seems to work.

Use at your own risk, but you can try adding this to <sys/wait.h>
to make porting some old BSD software easier:


#include <features.h>
#ifdef __USE_BSD

/*
 * Deprecated:
 * Structure of the information in the status word returned by wait4.
 * If w_stopval==WSTOPPED, then the second structure describes
 * the information returned, else the first.
 */
union wait {
	int	w_status;		/* used in syscall */
	/*
	 * Terminated process status.
	 */
	struct {
		unsigned int	w_Termsig:7,	/* termination signal */
				w_Coredump:1,	/* core dump indicator */
				w_Retcode:8,	/* exit code if w_termsig==0 */
				w_Filler:16;	/* upper bits filler */
	} w_T;
	/*
	 * Stopped process status.  Returned
	 * only for traced children unless requested
	 * with the WUNTRACED option bit.
	 */
	struct {
		unsigned int	w_Stopval:8,	/* == W_STOPPED if stopped */
				w_Stopsig:8,	/* signal that stopped us */
				w_Filler:16;	/* upper bits filler */
	} w_S;
};
#define	w_termsig	w_T.w_Termsig
#define w_coredump	w_T.w_Coredump
#define w_retcode	w_T.w_Retcode
#define w_stopval	w_S.w_Stopval
#define w_stopsig	w_S.w_Stopsig

#endif




-- 
Doug Quale
quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: MS-DOS, Linux, and 386BSD on the same hard drive
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:56:12 GMT

I have received mail from quite a few people asking about installing
MS-DOS, Linux, and 386BSD on the same drive.  Until now, everything
coexisted well but I had the MS-DOS MBR and had to boot MS-DOS and
Linux from floppy.  (I use 386BSD most of the time.)  I have since
corrected that situation and would like to share my information with
anyone that wants to know.

After booting Linux from floppy, I installed LILO (LInux LOader) as 
the MBR.  It allows me to select a default boot (in my case 386BSD),
and gives me a choice if I hit the "Ctrl" key just after I turn the
computer on.  I have a "lowly" 386SX, but people with faster machines
may want to use an optional timeout period for hitting the "Ctrl" key.
LILO also saves a copy of the original MBR.

I read in the LILO (version 5) README file that LILO works with
other operating systems, but 386BSD was not specifically mentioned.
I have cross-posted this so that (1) more people can use both systems,
and (2) the LILO people know it works with 386BSD.

-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GCC
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:45:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov15.194530.11313
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <721788500.F00001@tdkt.kksys.com>, Tyron.Montgomery@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Tyron Montgomery) writes:
|> Help!! I'm trying to install GCC, but when I try to compile anything, the
|> compiler chews on the source for a while and then says something like "Cannot
|> execute as : no such file or directory".  I'm using the compiler contained in
|> the 222d7A and 222d7B files from the GCC/gccdisk directory and the 41lib1 and
|> 41lib2 files from the GCC/libdisk directory.  If I'm missing something, can
|> someone please help me out!
|> 
|> I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but I'm desparate...
|> 
|> Tyron the .sigless
|> 
|> 
|>  * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)

Like most of Unices, C compiler (gcc) under Linux just outputs assembly code.
Beside gcc, you need at least assembler (as) and linker (ld), which are in the
third disk of Linux Base System (on tsx-11 under pub/linux/GCC/basedisk).

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: Tape-Drivers & Mail 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Home for Three Headed Canines
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:13:18 +0000


In article <1992Nov21.221353.9160@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> nhc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com writes:

>
>In article <1992Nov20.194628.516@victrola.sea.wa.us>, vince@victrola.sea.wa.us> (Vince Skahan) writes:
>> Michael_Kraehe@hb.maus.de (Michael Kraehe) writes:
>> >An other question is about the Mail-Packet installed by SLS. I'vnt find
>> >any configfiles for it. And there seems to be no doku. So how to config
>> >for a SMARTHOST an using normal IN-Domain Adresses ? Also xmh does'nt
>> >seem to work ? Is it neccesary to install f*cking smail ?
>> 
>> you can get smail3.1.28 in the newspak directory on sunsite.unc.edu
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Unlike ELM, this does not compile out of the box.  It wouldn't even
>get through a "make depend".  I tried to mail the results of my attempt to 
>compile it using Linux-0.98.5 and gcc 2.2.2d7 to Vince but the mail keeps
>bouncing!
>
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Neville H. Chandler           ||       AT&T Bell Laboratories
>nhc@mtdcr.att.com             ||       Middletown, NJ 07748
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
I got smail3.1.28 to compile by editting conf/lib/mkdepend.sh
I changed X_CC_X to gcc and it ran make depend ,make  just fine
all I have to do now is read all the man pages till I find out
how to make it queue mail for delivery by smtp over a slip line
or ppp which ever we get first ,till then it all goes from dos

anthony

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kraus@rtsg.mot.com (David Kraus)
Subject: .98 and up won't run Xfree86{mono or color}
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Division
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:48:43 GMT

Ok, I've been puzzling over this the last couple of weeks, and I'm stumped.

I can run the latest Xfree86 on .97pl2 (contrary to the README) with the
mono server and low-res just fine.  But, if I boot anything over .98, the
VGA goes into graphics mode with a mostly blank screen, and dies, leaving
me in graphics mode...

I'm currently trying a .98pl4 kernel, using the EXTENDED_VGA display in the
makefile, and leaving out all the SCSI drivers except the Seagate.
Otherwise, it's a default kernel.  Video card is an ATI Integra (28800-5
chipset), in case someone thinks that matters.

Now, what I'm getting under the screen when the X server comes up:

07:52:29> X
no SIOCGIFCONF
XFree86 Version 1.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Configured drivers:
  VGA2 (monochrome VGA):
      et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, tvga8900, generic
VGA2: generic (mem:64k (using 64k) numclocks: 2)
VGA2:   clocks: 25 28

This was captured this morning.  In tests with another terminal hooked to
/dev/ttys2 and stderr/stdout redirected to it, I also saw something about
an unexpected signal 2 and waiting for the X server to shut down.

I also get the same stuff when I run it as X -pn, so it isn't just the fact
that TCP/IP is compiled in but not set up.  Or maybe it is and I don't know
it.

If anyone else has seen this behavior, and has figured out what to do about
it, I'd appreciate some pointers.  And if this was covered a few weeks back
and I missed it, well, sorry about that, too...

Thanks.

--
Dave Kraus                                         Internet: kraus@rtsg.mot.com
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group             FidoNet : 1:115/439.8
Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ.
OBQuote: "Chicago is civilization?" - Me
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu (Matthew Q Rhoten)
Subject: MIT Scheme
Originator: mrhoten@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:27:25 GMT

Someone posted not too long ago saying he had compiled MIT scheme
under linux. I traded email with this guy, got no information where to
get scheme, and lost his address. The article has since expired at my
sites. Has anyone seen MIT scheme lying around anywhere obvious? I
checked the usual ftp sites.

I decided, heck, I'd compile it myself, and after wrestling with a few
hours' worth of BSD terminal control and pseudo-tty bogosity got the
microcode to compile, but not work. I'm much more interested in using
Scheme (specifically, in using Scheme to do homework in a nice
comfortable place like a coffeehouse, on my notebook, instead of in a
nasty workstation cluster) than porting it.

If someone doesn't have bandwidth to post the entire (huge) MIT Scheme
binary set, hey, no problem, just send patches. I can compile it and
put it up for ftp.

 -matt
-- 
Matthew Rhoten | mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu | m_rhoten@leland.stanford.edu
"When Adam and Eve first saw each other, that's when the blues started."
 -John Lee Hooker
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bir7@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ross Biro)
Subject: Raw sockets now supported
Summary: Patches for Raw kernel sockets available
Keywords: tcp ip kernel sockets ping
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:22:24 GMT

There are now kernel patches for raw sockets available at sunsite.unc.edu.
You will need 0.98 pl5 + tcp patches 1-3.  They should be included 
in the next kernel release.

Ping can now be ported and a binary should be available soon.

Ross Biro bir7@leland.stanford.edu 
Member League for Programming Freedom (LPF)
mail lpf@uunet.uu.net for information



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: union wait
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:31:11 GMT

In article <Mf35FIC00YUnR=rW82@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Brian E. Gallew" <geek+@CMU.EDU> writes:
|> What is the linux-ism for a "union wait"?  It would really be helpful
|> to know for porting some software.
|> 
|>                                   -Brian
|> 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | "Are they dead?"                                                      |
|> | "Does it matter?"                                                     |
|> |   - Pugsley and Wednesday in "The Addams Family."                     |
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Include <sys/wait.h>, You are home free. If your software ueses "union wait"
directly, rather than wait macros, fix your software. That will make it
more portable.

H.J. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Bill.Saunders@launchpad.unc.edu (Bill Saunders)
Subject: fixed font in X?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
	My Xserver keeps aborting and says that it couldnt find the fixed
					Bill Saunders
					bills@outlaw.uwyo.edu
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:42:18 GMT


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jay Schmidgall)
Subject: newbie ? on linux sytem requirements
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:30:18 GMT
Reply-To: jay@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN
Followup-To: jay@vnet.ibm.com

I'm thinking about getting a dos box solely to run linux.  I'm a
relatively experienced unix (well, AIX) user, and am hoping linux can
provide me a home hacking environment for X and such.

Unfortunately, I'm just not that familiar with the ms-dos computers and
so am unsure exactly what I should be looking for in a dos box. When I
stop in at various retail outlets, most have systems that look like

  486SX/33, super VGA card, 14 in. super VGA monitor, 4 Meg ram,
  107 Meg hard drive, 3 1/2 in.floppy.

How confident can I be that linux will run on that sort of system (and how
usable will X be on a 14 in monitor?)  I do plan to boost to 8 Meg.

What sort of questions/specifics should I be asking about the hardware,
that is, is there a list of specific cards that will the linux X port works
with, is the kind of hard drive important?  Is a 486DX/33 a (much) better
CPU to get?  What about a 486DX2/50 ?

I'd be looking at PS/2's as well, but from the FAQ it looks like MCA is a
no go.

Since I'm sure this isn't of interest to the group at large, follow-ups are
directed to me.  If you'd like a copy of what I find out, send a note and
I'll be happy to send you a summary.

Thanks for any advice and tips you can give.

-- 
: jay          jay@vnet.ibm.com    My opinions and ideas, not my employer's.
: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com    (c) Copyright 1992.  All rights reserved.
From: Joshua.Lee@p3.f247.n271.z1.fidonet.org (Joshua Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: FAQ: Latest version of Linux
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:44:34 -0800

What is the latest version of Linux, and what are it's features over
0.96? I've got that version, but I know it's not the latest. Since the
gate is (hopefully temporarily) down, we don't have the FAQ, so I
figured I'd ask.

Also, what's the latest news on the gateway? Was it taken down for some
reason or is it only experiencing technical difficulties?

Also, any of the latest news about Linux and the latest ports would be
welcome here, I have alot of catching up to do.

                                Thanks,
                                   JBL

 * Origin: Barely the point - Hampton, VA (1:271/247.3)
From: Jim.Watson@f610.n170.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A test message...
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:20:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: remote.722438907.AA22023

Here's that test message to check the links back to you...



 * Origin: I came real close to seeing Elvis, but my shovel broke.
(1:170/610)
From: faith@cs.unc.edu (Rik Faith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: >486SXs as unix iron
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:40:37 GMT

In article <By6MMx.HE0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk) writes:
|> To you guys who mailed me asking for the place selling the 486SX board,
|> I got it wrong, it's Treasure Chest.
|> 
|> I called them this morning asking about the price of the board, and
|> they said it's now >$300 (in CS at $229).  They said that intel
|> raised the prices on the 486 line.

This is very interesting.

Today I tried to buy a drive from them that is listed at $379 in the
Treasure Chest Peripherals ad on p. 474 of December Computer Shopper.

They said it is now $450, and that they can't ship for "days."

I'm *NOT* going to buy anything from Treasure Chest.  If more people report
similar price switching, perhaps a note to CS would be in order.

-- 
Rik Faith: faith@cs.unc.edu
What I tell you three times is true.  --Dodgson
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux FAQ
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:01:35 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

jsk@uniplex.co.uk (Jonathan King) writes:
>Could some one post them to me (linux FAQ) ????

I won't, but I'll tell you how you can get them yourself.

1.  Check the newsgroup news.answers: the FAQ may still be there, even
    if it has expired from c.o.l

2.  If you have FTP, take a look at pit-manager.mit.edu.  Everything
    posted to news.answers (including the Linux FAQ) is archived
    there.

3.  If you cannot FTP, try the mailserver at pit-manager.  Start by
    sending a mail with the word "help" in the subject line to
    mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu.

4.  If all else fails, either post a request in c.o.l or preferably
    mail one to somebody who posts often in c.o.l and seems to be a
    good guy (that fool who does the Meta-FAQ and a few other things
    might be a good target, even if he isn't that much of a good guy).
    If you post, ask people to send you mail if they are willing to
    send the FAQ to you, don't ask them to just send it right away,
    since it is rather big (150 kB) and you might not appreciate
    getting a dozen or two copies.  Or at least you sysadmin might not
    like it.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gilles@dgbt.doc.ca (Gilles Gagnon)
Subject: Q: X Debugger
Reply-To: gilles@dgbt.doc.ca
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:59:29 GMT

From what I read on the net, it would seem that "xxgdb" the GNU X Windows
debugger is available for Linux. Could anybody let me know where I could
get it please. I could not build it from the original sources.

Thanks for your help.

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					  | 3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa CANADA