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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:04:16 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.201310.18417@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
|In  <kujk8vINNdpm@news.bbn.com>  dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
|>
|> Silly boy, I'm surprised I have to tell you this.  You offer to help them
|> celebrate May Day, of course.  You *do* already have a cool helmet, don't
|> you?
|>
|> And May Day is even coming up.  (Wish I knew a guy with a helmet to help
|> *me* celebrate.)
 
I have a really cool helmet.  A few years ago I competed in the Corporate
Ski Challenge at Alpine Meadows.  A helmet was required for the downhill
race.  I have this old helmet that my father bought me when I got my first
motorcycle at the age of 10.  It is a really small helmet with holes in the
sides that I had painted metallic red.  I later found these chrome stick on
stars that I stuck all over the helmet.  Quite a few people that wanted to
race in the downhill didn't bring a helmet.  There were probably a half a
dozen people that used my helmet.  I figure that helmet took .3 of a second
off my time. :-)

And then there's this...

I was at work awhile back and this guy that rides a bike to work was just
leaving.  He was all dressed up in his lyrca pants and his gloves.  As he
was walking out someone asked him, "Where's your helmet?". He turned around
looked down at the front of his pants and said, "Can't you tell?"




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From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:53:52 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <3840057@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse) writes:

>In soc.singles, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
> >  Re:  Dan Fogelberg's romantic songs - yes he's great.  One of
> >  my favorites (I'll let you guess why) is "Illinois."

>I have most of Dan Fogelberg's music and I'm also familiar with his
>song "Illinois".  It would be hard for me to pick a favorite album of
>his, but I'd have to say that "Home Free" is one of my favorites.  

> >  Richard Marx has my topper, with "Right Here Waiting."  There
> >  is a song with some FOND memories from the beginning of something
> >  still very much alive.

>"Right Here Waiting" by Richard Marx is also one of my favorites!!  **SMILE**
>He has done many other songs that I also like.  


Older songs,
		Tammy,		 Debbie Reynolds
		Love letters,	 Ketty Lester
		Dream a little dream,		Mama Cass
		Anyone who had a heart,		Cilla Black (no less :))
		Come softly to me,		The Fleetwoods,

These might not in all cases be the original artists, but IMHO they are
the best interpretations.


Some other GREAT songs..
A french artist called Francis Cabrel, 
		Je pense encore a toi,
		L'encre de tes yeux,
		Si tu la croises un jour,
		La femme qui m'accompagnera
	*****   Elle ecoute pousser les fleurs  ******
and many many more, this guy has a purely poetic lyrical sense.

and not to forget Frances Gall, "Evidemment", or many from Jean-jaques
Goldman or Jaques Brel etc.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: want-sex(women) < want-sex(men)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 10:23:21 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC

In article <1992Apr16.020520.22127@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>   But when did people realise that sexual intercourse CAUSED pregnancy?

	It seems to be a fact that must be rediscovered by every
generation; judging by the number of accidental pregnancies
among teens, the discovery is often not in time.

						Kayembee
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:03:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr9.020356.23598
Organization: Indiana University

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>Okay okay!  Sheesh!   I agree ...but what someone edited out of the
>previous post was me saying that even though a women *is NOT* obviously
>aggressive, if she's interested it'd be fairly obvious to any man who
>doesn't have his head in the clouds.  Get it?  

Yes. You expect the man to read your mind. 

In another article you write:
>when I was married and relatively happy with my situation I was often
>flirted with because I was in the public eye.  A man I had had a short
>conversation with showed up where I worked one night.  Oh, he was
>handsome and tall and looked just like Tom Selleck.  He obviously
>liked me.  He asked me out.  I was astonished because I hadn't been
>giving him "available" vibes and I was married.  So I turned him down,
>of course. 

In other words, he read your mind incorrectly. Because if you havd _in
fact_ not been giving him "available" vibes [from his perception] then
he would not have asked you out.

>around and flirting is making the first move.  I'm saying that being
>available and open makes it obviously to men so that they're not all
>scared about being turned down or rejected.  
He probably thought you were available and open....

>Granted, I don't have practice being the aggressive person.  Tried it
>once .. didn't like it.  

Men have to do it all the time, because of women with this attitude.
We don't like it either. And then to be told, lots of women often make
the first move, strains the credibility.

>And frankly, I've never *had* to do it.  I guess because if I'm
>interested in someone I make sure they know it.  I make *sure*.  
If this is your approach, it seems only fair that you make sure they
know if you're _not_ interested as well, to prevent incidents like the
one detailed above.

>I like playing the game and, like 
>somebody said, I like playing by my rules, too.  
Making it up as you go along.

>It not only works for me, though.  Lots of women use this stratagem.
And they limit their choices of relationships to the subset of men who
would choose them. 

This is the issue. Women's options would increase, and their
relationships would be, on average, better, if they picked the
people they want to date, and not just wait to be picked. 
-- 
"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:34:06 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Apr15.142258.11742@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <8czk02elc91300@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>,
>jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes: 
>> swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>> 
>>}My mind produced the image of myself on horseback
>>} wearing a highwayman's cape, spurs, and a bikini, carrying a lasso, riding 
>>}him down on the open range.... 
>> 
>> Gads, that's quite an image.  Feel free to so pursue me anytime.  I think
>> I can guarantee that you'll catch me...
> 
>Damn straight I'd catch you; I mean, what do you think the horse is
>*for*?  (I believe in cutting through all this 'who's going to make the
>first move' nonsense; I leave nothing to chance.)   :-)

Piglet, I think you should mark this one down as "aggressive".
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 16:07:46 GMT

eleanor@ait.com (Eleanor Evans) writes:
>I ask a slightly different question--here's the line of reasoning:
>
>1.  Keeping/developing friends while you're in a relationship is
>    A Good Thing[tm].
>2.  Part of deep friendship is a physical relationship (YMMV).
>3.  Therefore, sex with friends while in a committed relationship 
>    is not A Bad Thing[tm], and should be addressed the same way 
>    as sex with friends while not in a committed relationship.
>
>Step 2 may be where I lose most monogamists.  I have absolutely no
>problem with people who want a monogamous relationship.  I simply
>can't have a long-term relationship with one, given my beliefs.
>(I don't call this an open relationship, however.)

I have some friends like this. They are honest (as honest as people who
are convinced that they can't get aids so they don't have to practice
safe sex can be) with everyone that they get involved with.
They are happy, and so are the various people they are involved with.

>I trust my SO to select his partners carefully, we give each other
>veto power, we tell each other when it might or did happen and why 
>or how it was.  If I should happen to walk in on him and someone
>else in bed, I expect them to invite me to join them.

Gee, are you sure you aren't one of my friends in disguise ? :-)
They are living this type of lifestyle (and to think I could have
been too, but I chose not to :-/

	fred
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I post is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
From: hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Second Move
Date: 17 Apr 92 21:09:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr17.210929.22509
Organization: U.W. Information Systems

In article <1992Apr17.153723.3308@u.washington.edu>, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
> Well what I hadn't taken into account before was that maybe the reason
> that some of you men out there don't know how to read the signals is that
> women haven't been giving you any.  So how can you look to see who's
> flirting with you, who might be interested in you, when no one is?  There
> *is* a dilemma

Well, this is what you get when you play with fire and "...the most dangerous
toy.".

> Angelwing - More feathers!!

Keep that flame thrower aimed at the tar! (: 

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From: JR6BPOLW@MIAMIU.BITNET (That one girl)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: RICHH and the unorthodox elements
Keywords: alt.saltgirl.richh.fandango, anyone?
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:58:09 GMT
Organization: Her Majesty's Secret Service--00Saltgirl

So it's about RICHH.  The rare and elusive RICHH.
 
In article <1992Apr7.205900.1447@craycos.com>, sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
says, with disbelief aplenty:
 
>THIS is charming?
 
Ahem.  If you knew RICHH like I know RICHH--
 
RICHH is tall and well-made, with shapely hands and a grin that promises
the possible.  His voice is gravelly; when he whispers it deepens into a
purr.  His intelligence is simply gorgeous, and his knack for an evocative
phrase is unparallelled.
 
His handwriting is ugly, and his ideas are ravishing.
 
To call him charming is to damn him with faint praise.
 
 
 
                             Plying Satan's own coffee stirrers,
                             Julie
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   "I shall be breakfasted before you are afield.  In short, I shall
    astonish you all."   --Thomas Hardy, _Far From the Madding Crowd_
JR6BPOLW@MIAMIU~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: SWF ISO SWM in Mass.
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:46:27 GMT

My girlfriend is looking for a SWM in Mass area.

She: brown hair and eyes, 5'6, SWF. Works 2 jobs and goes to school at night.
     Likngout, nightlife, all types of music, ethnic foods, and does
     not cook! Loves the beach and to travel. Has been to Greece.

He:  Frugal gourmet, sense of humor, talkative, attractive, athletic with 
     broad shoulders, medium build, 5'8 or taller, plus good listener.

(Her name is Aristea)

ps.she doesn't have access to email. So I'm writing this for her.
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Yoo, hoo, Angelllllllwingggggggg.......
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:45:04 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Distribution: na
Organization: The Village Waterbed
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In  <1992Apr10.195105.27227@u.washington.edu>  intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.181036.17443@csc.ti.com> pnichols@ra.csc.ti.com writes:
> >
> >     Civil, yes, but lacking in color or charisma.  C'mon, insult me.  :)
>
> Oh ...okay.  I think you're a weinie.  How's that?

I'm surprised at you, Angelwing - I thought you knew the difference
between an observation and an insult.  Not only that, but you gave
an observation that was fairly obvious - nothing insightful.  Care
to try again?

> Like I'd say something like oh ...flowers and chocolate.  Or a big dick
> and a *really* stupid (but rich) man.

How about a big chocolate dick and a stupid rich pansy?

> Angelwing - Going to lunch.

Larry - out to lunch all day
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Request : Dating advice from women
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:20:39 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC

In article <ku72jiINNdhg@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>Daniel Mocsny writes:
>
>>Hitting on women is a stressful, intellectually demanding job. I have
>>never done well at it without approaching it systematically, and
>>preparing myself mentally, in advance, for its demands. 
>
>Why the term "hitting"?  I'd call it "dating".

	No, a date is what you do after you've hit on someone successfully.

>>First, I have to figure out where the women are.
>
>Go to parties given by friends.  I always meet lots of men through
>friends and the parties they give.  (But then, I'm only speaking for
>myself...) 

	The reason you meet lots of men at parties is that the men
are hitting on you.

	Ah, women: I love 'em, but sometimes they don't have a clue :-).

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:28:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.004330.19767@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>However, I think it's easy to prove the existence of women who would
>be considered to be making the first move--in the last year, I've been
>to a few SF cons and to the local renaissance faire and at each of
>these events, I've had more women approach me and initiate conversations
>than I could keep track of.

Yep...all the aggressive women are at cons...my most recent ex SO
(went out 2.5 years) I met at a con...she molded the circumstances so
I would drive her home, and later asked me out.  She _would_ call you
up and say "hey you with the blinders on...."

So it just goes to show, if you want to meet aggressive women,
put on a tunic, buy a big sword, read up on wicca, and march right
over to your local SciFi/Fantasy convention or medievalist society.

-Tom


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sleight@blackbird.larc.nasa.gov (DWS)
Subject: Re: Older men and younger women (advice needed)
Reply-To: (DWS)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:01:02 GMT

>Is she currently going out with someone? Who made the first move?
>Do you feel quilty and are you taking into account any third parties?

>Why does a year or two difference in what you believed her age to be
>make such a big difference?

No one has made a first move in the sense of being more than just friends.
There was one time though on a long overnight bus trip in which we sat together
when she cuddled up to me initially and then we cuddled up together for the rest 
of the trip.   I really didn't mind it and in fact I sort of liked it.   Nothing else 
(Thank God ! )  happened. However, the next day I felt guilty about that fact 
that I Iiked cuddling with her.

No, I don't think she is going out with anyone but that doesn't really matter
because I'm not planning on asking her out.  The morality of an adult dating
a high school student is the reason.  I don't really have a problem with
the age difference (7 years).  What I mean is that if she were 18 and in college,
I might consider asking her out with her parents' approval (though it would 
still be a tough decision) .

>Why not ask her how she feels about you?

I doubt it if I will ever ask her about how she feels about me nor will I tell her
 how I feel about her.  Even if she really liked me now, I wonder how long it could 
last considering she is a very intelligent, attractive girl with 4 years of college 
ahead.  I want a more permanent relationship.  My last girlfriend (I was only 11
 months older than her) was in a similar situation when we were in high school 
together.  She had a boyfriend who was 26 when she was a senior only 17 years old. 
I think they went together for two years and  eventually were engaged, but later 
called the wedding off and broke up forever (that's when I came into the picture).
I remember when they went to the prom together, I imagined how out of place
he must have felt.  I guess chalk one up for being born at the wrong time.  

DWS
From: michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: personals
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:26:14 GMT
Organization: The Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada

In article <4179@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500ursa@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Disco Junkie) writes:
>It seems that the kind of people that use personals are ordinary, everyday 
>people sick and tired of the bar scene, and yet too busy to meet people 
>through work/activities/etc.  I would give it a try.  You have nothing to 
>lose except a few $$.  

That's something I forgot to mention. I think personal ads are a good
for people not into bars. I was surprised that quite a number of the men
I met via personals either don't drink alcohol at all or very little,
much less than people I met via other methods.

I have never been interested in bars, I don't drink much, not only
don't I smoke but I have allergies to smoke and I find bars too loud.

>Also, just by dating around a lot, you will gain experience with social 
>skills, and will be more at ease and confident with women. That will affect 

Agreed, I have found that I am a lot more comfortable dating than I used to
be.



-- 
Michele Guillet 			The Communications Research Centre 
3701 Carling Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA, K2H 8S2	tel:613-998-2384
Internet: michele@dgbt.doc.ca	
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (Software Dude)
Subject: sheep
Organization: WHAT?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:27:21 GMT

>|> So if I make an active effort to get Dan's goat I'm being an asshole, but
>|> if the goat leaves for greener pastures on its own, then should we meet,
>|> it's beautiful?
>|>
>|> I guess I feel a bit sheepish...
>|
>|	And well you should; this was a sheep shot if I've ever
>| seen one.
>
>Kenn, that was really baaaaaaaaad.  I'd think that Ewe wooled be
>ashamed of yourself.
>
Deweds! Have a drink! (Passes around a fifth of Woolite)
--
Puter	puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com "My favorite vanity plate - PHUQUE"
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:50:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr7.170420.5029@ccu.umanitoba.ca> browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown) writes:
>
>I read this post and I think, gee that sounds wonderful.  I bet it would be 
>great to fantastic to do that wild thang with Pooh.. I mean, yeah its better
>with someone you love, and have a serious commitment with, but it could also
>be a blast to do it with someone who you hardly know, but who is *good* at sex.
>In fact, there are just bunches of excellent women out there that I could have
>a great time making love with, and who could teach me lots of new tricks too.
>
>So how can I think like that, and maintain one solid, exclusive relationship?

Read/watch erotica/pornography and experiment with what looks like fun
to the two of you.

--
Stef                 In the force if Yoda's so strong, construct a 
stef@apple.com       sentence with words in the proper order then 
                     why can't he?                         /fortune
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From: xxxxajh@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: xxxxajh@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes)
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK

In article <1992Apr4.022249.5844@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
 >
 >Dear newsgroup readers,
 >
 >	Craig Shergold is seven years old and suffering from terminal
 >cancer. It is one of his wishes to be included in the Guiness Book of
 >Records with the largest number of business cards ever collected by one
 >person. Would you please send one business card to Craig at the address
 >below. If you have the time you might also pass this message along to other
 >newsgroups and internally within your company or institution. Thank you for
 >your time.
 >
 >	Craig Shergold
 >	36 Shelby Rd
 >	Carshalton, Surrey
 >	Englan, SMS ILD
 
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

Do not waste your time on this foolishness,  Craig is well, the newspapers
have reported that he does NOT want any more of this stupidity.

The poor devil is sick of these continuing requests.

Regards

Alan Holmes
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: THE SEDIMENTS OF REDUCTION was(Re: How to meet girls)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:14:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.212953.3351@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey Jean Lin) writes:
>
>              To the original person who asked the question.
> 
>              
>               My advice on how to meet girls is real simple.
> 
>                             Be yourself.
>
>                       Nothing more, nothing less.
> 
Yeh right, unless you're dull and boring and ugly too. Then it would help to be
someone else or rich (if not RICHH).

Ho Hum

MaX
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women