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From: turner@safety.ics.uci.edu (Clark Savage Turner)
Subject: Re: "Readability, Strength" signal reports
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:43:01 GMT
Distribution: usa

In <1992Jul22.193417.4561@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:

>How would one designate those CW signals that sound like Whoop whoop? A RST
>with a W on the end? 8-)  Actually this is a semi serious question. What are
>the technical reasons for those signals going whoop whoop? Almost impossible
>for me to copy by the way.

Gee, sounds like you are hearing "chirp", Jeff.  At least that is the
closest I can come to interpreting the "whoop whoop".  Does the CW signal
seem to change frequency with time after the intial "on"?  This would be
"chirp".  (Often the result of dying battery on a battery powered rig,
or other power supply / RF feedback problems.)

Clark
WA3JPG
From: cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Finding a used repeater.
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:18:06 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

I am posting this for a friend.  His organization has been given a frequency
pair for a repeater (158.355 and 153.??? Mhz, I don't remember the second
frequency).  Apparently this falls under part 90 of the FCC regs and he can run
up tp 100 watts.  He will be looking for a repeater at a hamfest this weekend
and has been told that you can find used ones that put out 25 watts for
$400-$500.  Is this reasonable?  What do 100 watt repeaters go for?  Are there
any general guidelines for looking for a used repeater for this frequency or
specific brands or models to look for/avoid?

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Chris Michels -- Systems Programmer             cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Northern Arizona University -- Flagstaff, AZ    cvm@nauvax.bitnet
Phone: (602) 523-6495                           N7YIU
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:36:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: New Radio Shack Scanner (BOGUS!).  What we really want. . .!
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

From: rpo@trsvax.tandy.com
Subject: New Radio Shack Scanner
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!rpo    Jul 16 10:25:00 1992

*NEW ITEM ANNOUNCEMENT
*
*Radio Shack announces the PRO-43, 200-Channel Portable Scanner
*with HyperScan. This is the first-ever Realistic handheld scanner
*that features a triple-conversion superheterodyne circuit that
*eliminates cellular image problems on 800 MHz, and also improves
*image rejection across the entire reception band.

The triple conversion is a welcome feature.  I have a Uniden BC200XLT, and
the image problem is rediculous.  Memory is cheap, how about more channels?

*The scanner also features:
*
*|-|       Access to over 48,000 frequencies including 200-400 MHz
*          military aircraft and 800-MHz public safety bands

It is nice to add the 200-400 MHz "bands".

*|-|       Automatic and manual AM/FM mode selection

Nice.

*|-|       Monitor bank    |-|  Memory saver    |-|  Priority channel

How about a "VFO" mode like the ham radios where you can tune in a frequency
without storing it in a memory.

*Coverage:  30 - 50 MHz (in 5 kHz steps)
*           118 - 136.975 MHz (in 25 kHz steps)
*           137 - 174 MHz (in 5 kHz steps)
*           220 - 225 MHz (in 5 kHz steps)
*           225.0125 - 400 MHz (in 12.5 kHz steps)
*           400.0125 - 512 MHz (in 12.5 kHz steps)
*           806 - 823.9375 Mhz (in 12.5 kHz steps)
*           851 - 868.9375 MHz (in 12.5 kHz steps)
*           896 - 999.9875 MHz (in 12.5 kHz steps)

How about the Ham 6m band 50-54MHz?
How hard is it to defeat the cellular phone frequency lockout?

*FM Sensitivity (20 dB S/N at 3 kHz deviation):                     1 uV
*AM Sensitivity (20 dB S/N at 60% modulation):                      2 uV

Sensitivity could be much better.  I can always add an attenuator for
intermod problems if I am downtown.  It is much easier to add an 
attenuator than a preamp.

*Spurious Response Rejection (at 328 MHz FM except primary image): 40 dB
*Selectivity:                         +/- 10 kHz:                  -6 dB
*                                     +/- 20 kHz:                 -50 dB
*IF Frequencies                              1st:    608.005 - 611.2 MHz
*                                            2nd:               48.5 MHz
*                                            3rd:                455 kHz
*Audio Power:                                                     250 mW

This is pathetic.  How about 2 watts audio output?

*Dimensions:                                5 3/4 x 2 3/4 x 1 5/8 Inches
*Weight:                       About 8.8 oz without antenna or batteries

Other stuff:

I want an S meter!!!!!
I'm not looking for the shortwave stuff (below 30 MHz).  That would be
useless without SSB, and that wouldn't be cheap.  I don't need TV
channels either.

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard             pyramid!hplabs!hpsad!frankb
1212 Valley House Drive     (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999  KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 DoD#7566 I'm the NRA.
From: MROWEN%STLAWU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Mike Owen W9IP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Perseids correction
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:55:48 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

In QST for July, W3EP discussed the possibility of a brief
"storm" of meteors during this month's Perseids shower.  This
topic was also covered in several articles in Sky & Telescope.

Be aware that W3EP's article incorrectly placed the "storm" on
August 12th.  It ought to be on the 11th instead.  Everything
else in the article is fine, but the date is off by one day.
There will still be plenty of meteors on the 12th, but the "storm"
is expected on the 11th (same time as in the article).

This information is from W3EP himself, with apologies to those who
might have been inconvenienced.

Mike Owen W9IP
MROWEN@STLAWU
From: rpo@trsvax.tandy.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Radio Shack Scanner (BOGUS!
Date: 20 Jul 92 15:10:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:ms.uky.edu:23395:trsvax:1787700012:000:1150
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!rpo    Jul 20 10:10:00 1992


This whole discussion is really kinda interesting. I in fact
mentioned quite a few of these to the buyer. The bottom line
is...what do you want as a bottom line? We have to balance
price/feature, and adding all of the suggested features
would make an excellent, $1500 handheld. Ok, maybe only
$1000...but still we have to look at selling enough units
to make a product worthwhile to carry.

As far as the cellular lockout...at least three times in the
last 5 years there have been serious efforts in Congress
to make any scanner that can monitor cellular illegal. A
couple of the bills came quite close to passing. Now, we have
over 7000 stores, and each store usually gets at least 2
of every new item. If such a bill passed, how would you like
to be stuck with over 14,000 pieces of merchandise that
you could not sell? Perhaps ACE or other companies that only
have to deal in stock numbering in the tens or hundreds can
take that risk...more power to 'em.

Meanwhile, the PRO-43 is the best handheld we have ever had.
If you look around hard enough, you will probably find someone
who knows what those oft-desired mods are.

Paul Opitz ... N5TPQ
From: bsplaine@mtmtl8.sr.hp.com (Bill Splaine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alinco Manuals
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:28:09 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)

Jay, I would like to be placed on your list for the Alinco's...... thanks
Bill, N6GHG
My address is... bsplaine@mtmtl8.sr.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: Amateurs on USENET List Aug 1992
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:22:48 GMT

mark@ve6mgs.uucp (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) writes:

>wpns@miki.pictel.com (Willie Smith) sez:
>>The list maintainer might wish to email each of these folks to see if:
>>
>>1) They want to be on the list (personally I don't mind, but it might
>>be courteous).  Yes it's freely available data, but someone could
>>misuse this by building the Mother Of All Mailing Lists....

Well, the Mother of All Mailing Lists already exists.  It's at
pit-manager.mit.edu under /pub/usenet-addresses and is a multi-megabyte
database of everyone who has posted to Usenet in the past 2 years or so.
(The "recommended" way to access it is via E-mail query.  To see if you
are on it, send E-mail to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu and in the
body of the message put "send usenet-addresses/name" where name is your
last name or E-mail domain).

While I commend Mark's offer to mask entries and provide net-users with
a modicum of privacy, I think one would be exceedingly naive to think
that there isn't subtle information-gathering at work that will only be
somewhat thwarted when privacy laws catch up with networks.  If you wish
to remain truly anonymous, don't post, or post under another name.

>>2) The listed adress is anything reasonable.
>Ooooooh, there are so many addresses that are unaddressible from somewhere
>in this network. I'd hate to remove an entry that was placed due to
>a carefully set up From: or Reply-To: header line just because I could
>not access them :-) :-)

Well, as Mark alluded to, this isn't a mailing list.  It was originally
designed to help authenticate Usenet messages for gatewaying to packet.
It was only after it was created did Mark (and others on the net)
realize its value as a Usenet "callbook."  Even if a significant number
of entries have bad E-mail addresses, it's at least a highly recommended
first place to look if you are seeking someone on the net, rather than
posting a bandwidth-wasting "looking for Joe Ham" (which may yield even
less accurate results, assuming you get a reply).

>I am not comfortable with sending e-mail to all entrants that are about to
>be expired, I'd prefer to silently cut them off after 9 months ...

>Send me mail if you disagree with any of this, Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-

I think a periodic, time-valued purge is the way to go.  Net users
should consider the list the first place to look to find someone's E-mail
address, but not have unrealistic expectations of accuracy.

If you would like your entry corrected, or deleted, then certainly
do contact Mike, but be aware of the other information-gathering
efforts at work on the net and their implications.  You may be trying to
hold the tide back with a broom.

Keep up the good work, Mike!

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: null@cs.iastate.edu (Linda Null)
Subject: Connecting packet radio to a mini/mainframe computer
Summary: Info wanted
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:18:49 GMT


I am interested in finding out if anyone has connected packet radio to a
large mainframe computer (or university computer) of some kind.  If anyone
has any info, could you please email it to 002065@northwest.missouri.edu or
0100364@northwest.missouri.edu?

Thanx!

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: Comp.dcom.telecom Moderator attacks ham radio
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:04:43 GMT

mike@hernix.org (Mike Herman) writes:

>In several respects I agree!  I've heard some incredible things over
>the years on 2 meter repeaters.  I've heard deliberate jamming on 75 meter
>SSB.  I've seen some crooks in action at hamfests, etc.  No matter what
>large group of people you find in life, there are always going to be a
>few bad apples.  I think you're blowing it out of proportion.  However,
>due to the amount of knuckleheads I've found on 2 meters around here, I no longer talk on any of the local 2 meter repeaters.
>73 de wb8evi

Well, I guess Pat hit my hot-button.  Pat is not a ham, and I'm still a
little confused as to how he can make sweeping (supposedly informed)
analyses of our hobby and how the "CB'ers" have ruined it.  I've passed
along a fairly level-headed reply to the newsgroup and hope he will
publish it.  Pat has historically engaged in non-specific and ad-hominem
attacks against groups and individuals, and when those individuals pick
apart his reasoning, he moves on to another subject, forgetting that
he's just put his foot in his mouth. (This is in stark contrast to the
general high quality of the newsgroup, which is why I was reading it on
the days he made this, and other, unwarranted attacks).

I'm sorry your current experiences on amateur radio are so
disappointing, Mike, but it does beg the following question.  What are
you doing in your community to bring up model hams and set good examples
on the air, driving out the bad operators?  Shutting off your radio will
remove the bad operating practices from your mind, but not from the air.
Silent resignation to the way things are on the ham bands will not make
our hobby any better, only much worse, and will leave ourselves open to
criticisms like those given by the comp.dcom.telecom moderator.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AARL vs ARRL
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:09:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo


The summary to date (sort of :-) ): ARRL is thinking of a name change
to AARL (American Radio Relay League to American Amateur Radio League).

Some people don't like AARL because of the similarity to AARP (American
Association of Retired People). I feel this way, also.

Someone suggested (tongue in cheek, I believe) AARRL.

I agree a name change would better identify the amateur radio nature
of the League.

How 'bout rearranging the favored AARL to ARLA (Amateur Radio League of
America? It keeps the same initials, avoids the association with AARP,
and rolls better off the tongue than AARL.
From: wright%morekypr.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: POLICE SCANNERS NOW LEGAL FOR KY-HAMS
Date: 25 Jul 1992 20:28:18 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Effective July 14, 1992 a new law went into effect regulating the use of
radios that are able to receive police transmissions in Kentucky.

HB 617 titled: Unlawful possession of Police Radio

     Adds "a person holding a valid license issued by the Federal
Communications Commission in the amateur radio service" to the list
of those mentioned in KRS 432.570 (4) (c) who may legally possess a
police radio.

Tim Wright /  KD4OVM
WRIGHT@morekypr.BITNET

Kentucky Amateurs do more listening **NOW**...
From: K2ANC.Wbst128@xerox.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Msg. for Jay Appell
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:32:27 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


Jay,
I've lost your phone number, please send it again or call me regarding Alinco
manuals and the Alinco Users List.
73,
Lou Kohnen  K2ANC
Xerox Corporation
MS0128-53E
800 Phillips Road
Webster, NY 14580
(716) 422-3899
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: hideg@spsd4360a.erim.org (Steve Hideg)
Subject: Re: Details of BCD format needed!
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:15:49 GMT

In article <LVDooB4w165w@pranny.UUCP> lee@pranny.UUCP (Lee Reynolds) writes:


   Anyone out there happen to know of any definitive source
   of data on the BCD format?  Trying to do some translation.
   Books, papers, etc., all leads gratefully accepted.

			       Thanks,
				       Lee.


Isn't BCD simply using 4 bits to count from 0 to 9?
The rest of the possibilities (A-F, or 10-15) are disallowed.
So, to count from 0-99 requires 8 bits, 0-999 requires 12 bits, etc.

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.

_________________________
Steve Hideg  N8HSC

hideg@amadeus.erim.org
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us
Subject: Re: Looking for 2m beam plans.
Originator: jim@eddie
Reply-To: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us
Organization: me?  have you seen my desk?  : -)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:32:57 GMT

In article <23JUL92.10230220@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu> cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
writes:

> The last time I posted a question about building an antenna I got such
> great response from the net, that I thought I would try it again.  I have
> been using my home built 2m j-pole for awhile and am very pleased with
> it.  Now I would like to build a small 2m beam.  Something like a 4
> element yagi would be great.  Does anyone know of sources or have the
> plans for such an antenna?

hmmm....never saw that post.  oh well.

I have **THE** source for you:  it's called ``The ARRL Antenna Book''
and there is no substitute for having this book handy.  should cost
about $ 20 (US) or so.

I strongly recommend it.  if you already have this book, you have detailed
plans for a lot more than just a 2m yagi....  plus (especially in the older
version I've got...the new version seems a bit lacking here) theory on how
and why lots of the designs work (well, ok, they give you the background
in the first several chapters and you can go at it from there).

   --jim

\input std_disclaimer                     % 73 DE N5IAL (/9)
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatc
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <l70g1aINN4t1@west.west.sun.com> hugo@huge.West.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 14130@mlb.semi.harris.com, rliles@heimdall.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ray Liles) writes:
>> Why is it everyone tries to ignore rules or find loop holes?
>> 
>> If you simply checkout Part 97 you will find the following:
>> 
>> 97.115 Music prohibited.
>> 
>> The transmission of music by an amateur station is forbidden.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, how simple can you get!  It didn't list any exceptions (autopatch music,
>> etc.).  It doesn't allow *any* room for interpretation.  It doesn't say
>> *broadcast*  it says *transmission* of music.  So, until the rules are changed,
>> let's try to abide by them.
>> 
>> Ray Liles - WA4VME
>
>Ray, Ray, Ray, lighten up!
>If you are walking down the street yappin on your HT to your buddy AB4YZ and some kid 
>runs by and screams at his amigo "F**k you !%&%^%$^" and your mike, being so sensitive,
>picks this up and transmits this profanity to the world, including your friendly FCC
>monitoring station down the street, are you telling me that, by your simplistic way of
>reading the rule book, you'd pay the fine and go to jail since it was your call that
>the friendly FCC monitor wrote down?????
>Or lets say that the same kid does not yell out a profanity but walks by with his
>boombox blasting and your conversation has "Santana" playing in the backround over the
>airwaves, what then???
>
>I don't see any room for interpretation on these, do you?
>
>Hugo, N6YWH

I don't see any room for interpretation either. As control operator of
the station, it's your duty to *immediately* cease transmission to avoid
violating the rules. If you fail to do so, you are in willful violation
and should be fined. I'll bang the repeater down on anyone yapping away
in their mobiles with the entertainment radio blaring in the background.
If you must operate in a high noise environment, like a parade, where
music is likely to be transmitted, you should use a close talking noise
cancelling microphone to avoid pickup. If you can't do that, you're not
using good engineering practice and shouldn't be transmitting.

Gary KE4ZV
From: harcke@hawkeye.synthesis.cornell.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Simple contest logger?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 11:26:56 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I'm trying to find a simple contest logger for the not-so-gung-ho
contester.  A freeware/shareware logger would be preferred.  I've looked at
CT 6.26 and Contest 3.something, but neither of these programs look like
they will work well for the smaller contests.

Thanks,

--
Leif Harcke N3EEN/AE
harcke@hawkeye.synthesis.cornell.edu
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Meteor Scatter
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:33:22 GMT
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

Since we expect to get awesome Perseids this year, given the theoretical
return of Swift-Tuttle comet later in 1992, I was curious if anyone involved
with meteor scatter could email me some information on it.

We are equipped with high-gain yagis on 2m and 440 MHz on az-el mounts,
and can put out about 150 watts on 2m and 30 watts on 400 MHz.  
Is it reasonable to do meteor scatter with this equipment?

-Thomas
 N3HAU
 member W3EAX University of Maryland Amateur Radio Association
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: Whats a LEAD-CALCIUM battery?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:22:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa

In article <1507@idacrd.UUCP> n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier) writes:
>From article <1992Jul21.143032.27210@ll.mit.edu>, by wjc@ll.mit.edu (Bill Chiarchiaro):
>> 
>>   There's no problem --- you have a lead-acid battery.  The lead is
>> alloyed with other metals, and those metals modify the characteristics
>> of the battery.  Calcium is used in some, antimony in others.
>>
>
>
>I don't want to be TOO picky but since when is calcium a metal?  Gel

Well, Calcium has always been a metal.  It is in the same column (IIA) as
Beryllium, Magnesium, Strontium, Barium, and Radium.

Calcium is one of the Alkaline Earth Metals.  All of these are very light,
very reactive metals with 2 electrons in their outer shells.

The reason that you might not think of calcium as a metal is that you probably
have never seen metallic calcium.  It looks just like aluminum, but is a bit
"whiter" in color.  It is quite soft, and burns in the presence of water!
When Calcium is burned in water it forms Calcium Hydroxide, a strong alkali
that is similar to Sodium Hydroxide, which is commonly known as Lye.

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:22:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Re:Thread to ham radio (to Ron MIller)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

Re- my posting

Sorry to let a helmet debate get started here in ham-radio-land.

Please move it to rec.motorcycles.

There you will find that I am being flamed to a crackly crunch by others
who can't read either.

Now back to your regularly scheduled ham-radio activities......

Ron Miller
NW0U
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