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From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 23 December 1993
Date: 24 Dec 1992 18:46:36 GMT
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In article 25817@microsoft.com, frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
<=>
<=>I am still dumbfounded by the success of HOME ALONE 2.

It probably means that kids are too young to be critics... 

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From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: anybody else remember this film?
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:35:22 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Dec29.200532.6888@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec29.173304.12651@bellahs.com> jjamison@bellahs.com (John Jamison RD AC) writes:
|> >In article <1992Dec28.154206.14430@dde.dk> pck@dde.dk (Peter Roboz Kristensen) writes:
|> >>dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein) writes:
|> >>
|> >>>I've been scratching my brain over this one, can't find a listing in the
|> >>>usual sources, and no one else seems to remember it.
|> >>>  
|> >>>Back in about 1965 I saw a movie whose premise was the Israeli war of
|> >>>indepnednce against the British and Arabs.  The key point was it followed
|> >>>some illegal immigrants arriving hidden in shipping cartons.
|> >>
|> >>Films covering the subject is "Exodus", but
|> >>
|> >>>I'm -pretty sure- one actress was Sophia Loren, but none of the references
|> >>
|> >>I don't think Sophia Loren was in it.
|> >>
|> >>>Sorry I can't recall much more....  ANy hints greatly appreciated.
|> >>>  
|> >>Me neither at the moment.
|> >>
|> >
|> >Paul Newman was also in it. 
|> >-- 
|> 
|> There was anothe movie whose title I don't remember with Sophia Loren
|> and Kirk Douglas about a high ranking American Army oficer, Billy Mitchell,
|> who emigrated to Israel just before Israeli independence.  John Wayne also
|> made about two brief appearences.

  I don't think that was Sophia Loren but another sultry actress whom 
  I can't remember her name - we're talking about the girl who played 
  MAGDA (sp?) right?

  And I don't think Kirk's character's name was BILLY MITCHELL. 
  When he assume the command of all the Israeli military activities,
  they called him ALOOF STONE (sp?) - meaning something like "general
  of generals, I think.

  Anyway, it was just on cable the other day.


  TRAVIS
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: Naked Lunch
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:27:32 GMT
Organization: Clark University

In a previous article, emr@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Ed Roseboom) wrote:
> 
>I rented "Naked Lunch" last night....what was that?

That was cool!  Surely to be watched with an "open" mind.  Wicked funny.
Exterminate all rational thought.

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From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Suggestions...
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:15:05 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <11546@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman) writes:
> In <3974@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
> 
> 
> >Hi all:
> 
> >I have a taste for good, eccentric movies that create an exciting,
> >interesting, funny and sometimes disgusting world of their own.
> >Examples: *Brazil*, *Baghdad Cafe*, *After Hours*, *The Cook, the 
> >Thief, ...*, etc.  Any other movies of that sort you can think of?
> >Thanks,
> 
> A Clockwork Orange
> 1984
> Brave New World
> Apocalypse Now
> Blade Runner
> Repo Man
> LA Story
> Naked Lunch
> Dracula

Rumble (sp??) Fish from Coppola...


> 
> ...and any other movie mentioned in alt.cult-movies
> 
> >Ahmed B.
> 
> Cheers,
> Murray
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From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robert De Niro, most overrated actor?
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:03:50 GMT
Organization: Church of Ill-Repute

ssastry@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sudhir K Sastry) writes:

# DeNiro has had some very impressive performances in his career.  Travis
# Bickle in "Taxi Driver" is a definitive performance,  deeply disturbing and
# frightening.  His performance as Jake LaMotta in "The Raging Bull" is also
# notable.  His weight gain for part of the role underlines an intense
# dedication, but he is not the first to do this (Liz Taylor in "Who's Afraid of
# Virginia Woolf" gained weight for her part, although not to the monstrous
# scale
#  of DeNiro). Another very impressive performance that sticks in the memory is
# from "The Godfather, Part II".  There are others, of course, but these are my
# personal favorites.

His performance in "The Deer Hunter" put him on the map for good. True, he's
not as versatile as Brando, but in the right role he's as good as it gets.

John
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From: fncll@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Hoffa?
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:00:56 GMT

Despite the intense media barrage and endless previes, I am looking forward to
seeing Hoffa but have heard bad things about it already.//// has anyone seen
it-- would I be wasting my money?

I am a real fan of Nocholson btw...

chris
poet and pauper, sure of one not of the other
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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Whatever happened to Mark Lester?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:28:14 GMT

I was watching "Oliver!" the other day, and was wondering whatever
became of the boy who played Oliver Twist?  I seem to remember him in
a version of Prince & the Pauper as well, but those were both over 20
years ago.  What other roles did he play, and what ever became of him?
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From: emr@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Ed Roseboom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Naked Lunch
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:14:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


I rented "Naked Lunch" last night....what was that?
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Sick and tired of cries of sexism (was Re: 9 1/2 Weeks)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:43:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.230130.15387@psych.toronto.edu> anna@psych.toronto.edu (Anna Filippone) writes:
>In article <Bzz1E5.HHt@fiu.edu> feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers) writes:
>>
>>>>> to believe that our society dictates men's satisfaction over
>>>>> women's..i see beer commercials that satisfy men's needs [i
>>>>> drink beer, too], sportscar commercials [i would like one,
>>>>> too], and many other instances where men's pleasure is the
>>>>> aim..not women's.
>>
>>I'm sure that one of the reasons that this topic shows up in relation to
>>movies is the difference between male and female stimulation.  Men are
>>predominately stimulated by images.  It is biological and it is no
>>accident that the market for pornography has always been and continues to
>>be predominately driven by males.  On the other hand, female stimulation
>>is more situational and tactile. 
>
>Umm....actually lots of recent research evidence shows that this ain't true.
>Women ARE aroused by images.  I'd give the authors of the research papers to

I don't think "ARE" constitutes "predominately" [sic].  The difference
may be one of average levels.  And that is borne out by the marketplace,
which, you may agree, panders to existing preferences, and cultivates
them to be more significant if possible.  But if I were to reinterpret
your statement to mean that you really disagreed with the original poster,
and that you thought that men and women react identically to visual and
other stimuli, I'd say that contradicted all that I've read about the
subject since college, not to say that it definitely isn't so, note.

>you but I'm on holidays & don't have a university library handy.  I'm sure
>Masters & Johnson would have had something to say about it though.  It's just
>the stereotype of this "biological" difference has continued the male market
>for pornography.

Actually, I'd be hard-pressed to see that objectifying men in "romance"
novels and women in pictorial pornography are so different.  And I don't 
believe the sellers of pornography are overlooking a female market out
of ethical concerns.  There have been attempts at "defining" pornography,
but if the definition is to include anything that lessens the quality
of life, so to speak, of anyone, I'd say trashy literature fills the bill.
However, the stereotype is that pictures are bad, words are good.  I
personally can't prove either.
>
>Anna
>
>p.s.  Guess we're getting pretty off topic here, eh?

Yes.  Not that I mind.

GMS
From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Dave Parry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:59:12 GMT
Organization: The Mountains of Madness
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Julia Roberts!!!!

Legs, hair and makeup. Take those away and there's nothing left.

Dave

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From: kan@yoyodyne.rtp.dg.com (Victor Kan)
Subject: Poseidon Adventure - blue eyes or else!?
Date: 02 Jan 93 03:29:16 GMT
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: kan@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Program Development Environments, Data General Corp., RTP, NC

Is this a frequently asked question during this time of year?  Yep, I
just watched the Poseidon Adventure on New Year's Day, again.

For the first time, I noticed that everyone who survived had blue
eyes.  Was it my imagination or was this really the case?
Coincidence?  Subliminal message?  Should we non-blue-eyed folks stay
away from cruise ships?

Does Kathy Lee Gifford have blue eyes? :-)

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From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: the crying game
Date: 2 Jan 93 00:19:27 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 12-31-92 MICHAEL S  wrote:

MSIs Jaye Davidson (Dil in the movie) male or female?  The promo
MSmaterial available in the theatre was (I assume) deliberatelyRITCHIE

She's a woman. Most definitely. I speak from personal experience.

BTW, while we're on the Neil Jordan topic, what do people think
of his prior films -- Company of Wolves, Mona Lisa. Anyone seen
his early film _Danny Boy_ (also has the title _Angel_, I think
in the US, but I'm not sure because I saw it under the former
title in Ireland). Anyone have a videotape of it I might have a
copy of?

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From: jgh@plasma.apana.org.au (John Gerald Howell)
Subject: Stranger in a Strange Land?
Organization: APANA site, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:58:12 GMT

What's happening with Stranger in a Strange Land? Is it still
going ahead? Is Tom Hanks still Micheal Valentine? When's it
due? Anyone know anything? Have you ever seen so
many questions? Thanks in advance.

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(jgh@plasma.apana.org.au)
'Turning towards the light he felt
the warmth upon his face. Even
though blinded he could still be
touched by the hand of God.'
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From: kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kip Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Theater Posters...!
Date: 28 Dec 92 06:23:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Speaking of movie posters, is anyone out there willing to part with a copy
of the _American Flyers_ poster?

Email me your price, if you've got it.
Thanks,
Kip Ingram
kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Please name this George Stevens film
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:09:06 GMT

In article <C054M8.J5M@rice.edu> schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk) writes:
> While flipping channels the other night, I stumbled across the A&E program
> GEORGE STEVENS: A FILMMAKER'S JOURNEY. When I found it, they were right in
> the middle of some clips from a comedy made c. 1940 and starring Jean
> Arthur and Joel McCrae.

Probably THE MORE THE MERRIER (1943).  (And it's "McCrea".)

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say that you would have to sift through your military history till you
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of homosexuals on the losing side.  I'm not aware of any such case in
the past 2500 years, but I'd be interested to hear what you find."
-Nathan Engle
From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: re: Top 5? 10? 15? We'll see...
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:33:52 GMT
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

TK>>This is just a starter.  And now, films to avoid:
TK>>ANYTHING DIRECTED BY LAWRENCE KASDAN (All his films are ripoffs of movies by
TK>>>       John Sayles, a much more gifted director.  Case in point:  THE BIG
TK>>       CHILL rips off THE RETURN OF THE SECAUCUS SEVEN).


PK>I have to make an exception with Grand Canyon.

Grand Canyon is a ripoff, too!  Want a real film about the trauma of urban
life?  Rent CITY OF HOPE (1991), directed by--guess who--John Sayles.

This is not to be confused with CITY OF JOY (1991), a very bad Patrick Swayze
movie.

Thanks for the correction on the dates of VERTIGO and NORTH BY NORTHWEST,
tho.  My source was wrong, and has been beaten.

Happy Trails,

Todd @ Brandeis
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:33:20 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <C0Ayz0.AuL@unix.portal.com>, mork@shell.portal.com 
(James Paul Mork) writes:
 
>    My biggest disappointments 1992:
>       1.  One False Move

Really?  I guess you were expecting alot, because in my book, this was an 
outstanding small independant film...a true taut thriller.

>       3.  Boomerang 

What on earth were you expecting?

>    My favorites:
>       3.  Housesitter

This was one of your top 4 movies of the entire year?  Hmmm...to each his own.

>     Biggest Surprise:
>       1.  Career Opportunities...
>           I thoroughly enjoyed Frank Whaley's performance (also in minor
>           roles in Born on the 4th of July, Field of Dreams, and The
>           Freshman)...  Anybody see this ?  Any opinions?  I hope to 
>           see this guy in another lead role.

Yeah, it was a stupid movie, and I would never have rented it if Jennifer
Connelly wasn't in it.  (Hey, at least I'm being honest)  And yes, I thought
Frank Whaley was pretty good in it.  He also had a "cameo" in _JFK_ as one of
Lee Harvey Oswald's dopplegangers, and plays a small, but pivitol role in
_Hoffa_.  He was very convincing.

As to the person that asked about _Hoffa_ recently, I'd say YES!  Go see it.
I thought it was excellent, but don't expect more than a superficial covering
of Jimmy Hoffa's life, there is not much personal depth.  Luckily Jack 
Nicholson turns in a stunning performance.

Greg Bole                            "We ride...to hell.  Or to glory.  
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 12:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.145422.10366@Virginia.EDU> tlc9y@Virginia.EDU ("tara lou") writes:
>firstly, this conversation has gone way beyond the movie and
>into a heated debate....i don't know if it adequately fits the
>movie section anymore..
>
I think that if you'd been paying attention you might have noticed
that those of us who responded to Mollie's characterization of
"9 1/2 Weeks" have been trying to steer the conversation back
to movies pretty consistently.

>secondly, it is really frightening to read what some people are
>writing..i assumed a lot of that thinking died with the corset.
>you do not have to be a lesbian or an abused survivor in order
>to believe that our society dictates men's satisfaction over
>women's..i see beer commercials that satisfy men's needs [i
>drink beer, too], sportscar commercials [i would like one,
>too], and many other instances where men's pleasure is the
>aim..not women's.
>
Yes, and I gaze upon the Harlequin Romance rack at my local
supermarket knowing that it represents a world that I can never
share...:)

>this is not true all of the time as with any generalization,
>
Bingo! You said the magic word "generalization"!
The simple fact is that you can view any movie a myriad
of different ways. The fact that some women view "9 1/2
Weeks" as a sexist piece of trash bordering on rape
mongering doesn't negate the fact that other women 
see it as a fantasy of sexual liberation. Are you going
to start mandating that your view is the correct one and
force all others to comply?

>and if you believe in an equal partnership with your lover than
>all power to you...then, do not insult yourself with such crude
>attacks towards others...

Methinks the lady doth protest too much...
We have been having a relatively sane and polite discussion.
If you don't believe me go and spend a couple of days over
in talk.abortion...

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From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Liam Neeson???
Date: 27 Dec 92 06:30:29 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:

> In article <1992Dec22.141915.27610@scott.skidmore.edu> dtschett@saims.skidmor
> #
> #
> #What else has this actor done previous to "Leap of Faith"?
> 
> Darkman
> The Good Mother
> 
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He was in Excalibur

Dascoser
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From: David.Rapp@launchpad.unc.edu (David Rapp)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:56:39 GMT


     I always saw Dan Akroyd making a great Night Owl.




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From: rmichl@iiic.ethz.ch (Robert Michl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Liam Neeson???
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:23:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH

In article <1992Dec22.162540.212@scott.skidmore.edu> dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter) writes:

>Thanks for the titles-  I also found out he starred in "Under
>Suspicion" with Laura Giacoma (SP?) Anyone seen this movie?

Yes, I saw it, and I saw it twice :-)

 U N D E R   S U S P I C I O N 

Really thrilling movie. It's one of these "The-next-time-you-watch-it-you-
will-see-it-all-from-a-different-perspective"-films (Like "Angel Heart" or
"Siesta" or "Crying Game"!!!). I almost died in the cinema seat at one 
special scene. Hm, don't wonna tell you too much.

Liam "Darkman" Neeson plays an (irish?) private investigator in the late 50ies,
in England, Wintertime. Aaron (Neeson) earns his money in helping some men to
"accelerate" their divorce-lawsuits (Illegaly, you see). At this time you
needed only an affair, witnesses and photos included of course. The meetings
are arranged by Aaron himself, but one day, his wife and one of his 
clients (a rich painter) are found dead in a hotelroom. Of course, he gets
suspected of being the murderer and that's where the title comes from.
Dogged he traces the case himself: against Angeline (Laura San Giacomo),
the rich artist's maitresse. At the same time, however, he get's under her
spell, becomes her lover.

Splendid properties, extravagant costumes, tremendous sets at the stormy
coast of Seabath Brigton, nice lady, thick atmosphere, incessant tension
and a surprising ending - everything a good beer..er...good thriller needs!

If you like Liam Neeson, you'll like this film. IMHO his best role besides
Darkman. The story - detectiv falls in love with the (most probable) murde-
ress - has been showed by many representatives of this genre before, by 
Billy Wilder, Hitchcock, from "Final Analysis" to Verhoevens "Basic Instinct"
...but I liked this one very much. (Director: Simon Moore).

"No stars, death penalty, HappyEnd?" (just think of Altmanns "Sla.., I mean
"Player"")

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