HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Subject: RE: SCSI & Accelerator, again.
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:06:22 GMT

In article <9212182111.AA12780@dynamic2.arc.nasa.gov.arc.nasa.gov>, oneil@dynamic2.arc.nasa.gov.arc.nasa.gov (Don O'neil) writes:
>In response to the response to SCSI & Accelerator:
>
>cancel it. We cannot give any information about the design to anyone, so don't
>ask.

I didn't ask and I know I wouldn't be able to use it even if you gave it to
the world for free.

(You seem to take too seriously my devil's advocate position, so I'd like
to tell you that I am basically harmless :-)

Why not, BTW?  TI and MYARC held their system architecture closed, and paid
dearly for it.  This was discussed here in the past.
I do not need that info, to be sure, and you have full rights to keep it closed,
of course.  But we could all learn a good lesson from the HRD with its open
architecture, couldn't we?  Not to mention the Apple // and IBM PC sucesses

>WHT or BMS. The same thing can be said about ANY piece of hardware for any
>computer. What do you do if the company goes under? If you ever send in a

Not so if you can open "computer Shopper" and find dozens of companies
with toll-free phones eager to replace your part and take your money...

I know, I know, and I am not trying to compare...  But these thoughts ought
to be in everybody's heads anyway.

>century. Remember, I am not in this for the money, as long as I don't loose any

I never said you are!  And I am certainly glad (as I mentioned before) that
there is still support to upgrade the machine.
I trust we all wish you the  best of luck and full success.

>Don O'Neil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: TI-99/4A system value?
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:46:10 GMT

In article <drice.724379565@ponder>, drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice) writes:
>I found a place that has a half-dozen or so 99's available for $50 each.
>Just the consoles--no power supply, video adapter, or anything else.
>I was wondering how much these are worth now.  They all seem to be in good
>shape (visually).

I will gladly sell you my surplus for $10 per console,
or $15 each complete with power supply and RF modulator!

I trust the ones you have seen for $50 each console only
(basically as-is) are not fast movers...  :-)
10 years ago you could buy as many as you want new in the box for
$50 each!

I will take this opportunity to again tell readers of this group
that I have many TI-99/4A items that are extras and I am very
willing to trade them for other items that I could use.
If interested, please ask for a complete list byy e-mail.
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: shj@ultra.com (Steve Jay {Ultra Unix SW Mgr})
Subject: Re: SUN IPC as a standalone
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:42:21 GMT

esm40@cd.amdahl.com (Ed McGettigan) writes:

>I was thinking about getting a SUN IPC(or a 1+) for use at home and wanted
>to run it pretty much as I do at work for developing some new X-applications.
>I planned on doing data transfers with a modem or simply on 3.5" floppy.

>After talking to some people here at work they are under the impression that I
>need some sort of a server as well (another $4000-$5000).  What's the deal?  

I have no idea what "some people" are talking about.  I have an IPC at
home, and I can assure you that it runs standalone just fine.


Steve Jay
shj@ultra.com  ...ames!ultra!shj
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Dagget Drive / San Jose, CA 95134 / USA
(408) 922-0100 x130	"Home of the 1 Gigabit/Second network"
From: gnaa38@udcf.gla.ac.uk (Paul Porcelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Dat versus Magneto Optical
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:19:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Can anyone help. I'm in a bit of a dilemma as to whether i need Dat or Optical Disks for a project i'm working on.
We will be collecting data through a 200 channel Dat aAcquisition System connected to a Dos based 486 PC. There appear to be two routes we can take. 

Route 1:
The resulting (max 1.5mb each) files will then be transferred to a 128mb Optical Disk(rmwm). This disk will then be transferred manually to another part of the city where it will be mounted on an identical drive connected to a Unix box(SPARCsation10). The files will then be transferred using Mtools (public domain software). This will be followed by numbetr crunching and graphical output. The resulting data will be archived onto a worm optical disk when the disk gets to full.


Route2:
This is the same as above but replacing the optical drives with Dat drives.

Can anyone give me some idea as to what i would be sacrificing in terms of transfer rates if i take the Dat route. The data from the pc will be transported when around 100mb has been collected.
From: vile@bbsls129.BNR.CA (Peter Vile x5501)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun's {F}SBE/S board blues
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:46:16 GMT
Organization: bnr
Distribution: world
Reply-To: vile@bbsls129.BNR.CA (Peter Vile x5501)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbsls129.bnr.co.uk


I ordered a SBE/S from SUN-Express two weeks ago. They did not state initially that
there would be a delay. It was only when our purchasing dept. faxed through 
confirmation of the order that we found out there was a problem.

We are now promised delivery by SUN-express on 4th Jan. 

The only excuss that I could find was shortage due to excessive customer demand!!!!!!
From: esrne@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P I Neaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: SBUS development kit
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:37:46 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk


Has anybody successfully installed the SCSI driver, sip.c 

provided with the SBUS development kit.

..'cause I haven't :-(

Replys by email please - esrne@csv.warwick.ac.uk


Phil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: mitu@me.utoronto.ca (Adrian Mitu)
Subject: SCCS and binary files
Originator: mitu@cam.me.utoronto.ca
Keywords: SCCS
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:44:39 GMT



Can SCCS handle binary delta versioning? If not can someone reccomend
a version-control system that does? I am reffering to storing binary
files and their versions in a space-effificent manner (no un-necessary
duplication of data).

I am forever grateful for your help!


Adrian Mitu
(mitu@me.utoronto.ca)
-- 
Adrian Mitu
(mitu@me.utoronto.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Subject: Re: SCCS and binary files
Keywords: SCCS
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:25:18 GMT

In article <BzC2EG.Bq1@me.utoronto.ca>
mitu@me.utoronto.ca (Adrian Mitu) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Can SCCS handle binary delta versioning? If not can someone reccomend
|> a version-control system that does? I am reffering to storing binary
|> files and their versions in a space-effificent manner (no un-necessary
|> duplication of data).

man 5 sccsfile gives:

     ^Af e 0|1
          The e flag indicates whether a source file  is  encoded
          or  not.   A  1  indicates  that  the  file is encoded.
          Source files need to be encoded when they contain  con-
          trol  characters,  or  when they do not end with a NEW-
          LINE. The e flag allows files that contain binary  data
          to be checked in.

That is files containing that have other than printable and whitespace
characters or are missing a terminating newline are encoded (I believe
uuencoded). That also implies that insertion or deletion of binary data
will result in all common data after the change being included in both
deltas (presuming no complementary change).

-- 

Michael Salmon

#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

Ericsson Telecom AB
Stockholm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,mi.sun,comp.sys.dec
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: 101 Ways to Use an Old CD-ROM
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:23:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.192517.10318@cs.hope.edu> jipping@cs.hope.edu writes:
>new-fangled days of CD-ROM distributions, when you even get demo disks and 
>"home shopping disks" (like Catalyst CD-Ware), I'm curious was folks have been
>doing with old disks.

CDs look luvly hanging from xmas trees.

install them behind doorkobs.

i wonder if they are toxic to aquarium fish...?

glue them on cheap sunglasses for way k00l beachwear.

get a few pegs and buil a real towers of hanoi set.

miniature Ninja death frisbees.

>At last year's SUG show in San Jose, Qualix had some CD-ROM coffee coasters:
>just glue some plastic feet underneath and *presto*: new use for old media.

-- 
   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N 80.52W]
         kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca   postmaster@thinkage.com   thinkage!kgdykes
         harley-request@thinkage.on.ca             kgdykes@math.uwaterloo.ca
From: rriv@oural.inria.fr (Robert Riviere)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SUN IPC as a standalone
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:28:41 GMT
Organization: Cermics/Inria-Sophia Antipolis

In article <e3hC02mE2eu401@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> esm40@cd.amdahl.com (Ed McGettigan) writes:
>I was thinking about getting a SUN IPC(or a 1+) for use at home and wanted
>to run it pretty much as I do at work for developing some new X-applications.

I just configured an IPC for my boss for using at home. It has a 200Mo disk and
8Mo Ram, and I've been able to give him X-windows, latex and epoch.
I've been using it a little, and it works pretty well...

It would perhaps be a little small for 'developing some new X-applications', 
but a 500Mo disk and 16Mo RAN would work fine.

An amusing fact is that you cannot configure SunOS for not including inet.
Even for a totally standalone usage...



-- 
Robert Riviere
(rriv@sophia.inria.fr)				Tel: (33) 93.65.79.06
CERMICS						Fax: (33) 93.65.77.40
BP 93                              06902	Sophia Antipolis Cedex
From: narad@nonsequitur.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck Narad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: 101 Ways to Use an Old CD-ROM
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:16:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: narad@nonsequitur.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nonsequitur

In article <1992Dec16.192517.10318@cs.hope.edu> jipping@cs.hope.edu writes:
>>new-fangled days of CD-ROM distributions, when you even get demo disks and 
>>"home shopping disks" (like Catalyst CD-Ware), I'm curious was folks have been
>>doing with old disks.

place them under italian glass statuary and sea shells as a display mirror.



Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:5907 comp.sys.sun.wanted:2036 comp.sys.dec:6525
From: smarks@trantor.Eng.Sun.COM (Stuart Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: 101 Ways to Use an Old CD-ROM
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:18:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: smarks@Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: trantor

Go to a room with a microwave oven, place the CD-ROM in the oven on an
upside-down paper cup, turn out the lights, and cook the CD for about 10-15
seconds.  The resulting light show is quite spectacular.  Make sure not to
cook the CD too long, as the plastic will start to melt and then burn.  After
cooking, the metal foil inside the CD will have been fractured into a pretty,
crinkly pattern.  The CD will now make a nice Christmas tree ornament or
wall hanging.

Enjoy,

s'marks

N.B. The CD will most likely be unreadable after this treatment.

-- 
Stuart W. Marks				stuart.marks@eng.sun.com
Window Systems Technology		2550 Garcia Ave. M/S 21-228
SunSoft, Inc.				Mountain View, CA 94043
From: sthomas@library.adelaide.edu.au (Steve Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Is Sparc10 suitable for large DB system?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:08:35 GMT
Organization: Barr Smith Library, University of Adelaide, South AUSTRALIA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: library.adelaide.edu.au

We have a fairly large Library database operation here. It has been
suggested to us that a Sparc 10 would be a sensible replacement for our
current hardware. Does anyone out there know of a similar sized DB
running successfully (or not!) on a Sparc 10? If yes, I'd be grateful if
you could send me details.

As an indication of the size of our system, we currently have:

	- Encore Multimax 520, 64MB memory, 5GB disk
	- around 140 concurrent users
	- Universe software running Dynix Library system
	- database size about 3GB

The proposed Sparc configuration is something like:

	- SparcStion 10 Model 30
	- 96 Mb Memory 
	- 6 or 8 GB disk

There seems to be no problem running Universe/Dynix - the big IF is will
this configuration (or any configuration of Sparc10) be able to perform
well with 140+ users constantly interrogating and updating the database.
I.e. will we experience bottlenecks in Ethernet or in disk channels, or
both?

_Any_ suggestions on this will be most welcome.

 ____________________________________________________________________________
        Stephen Thomas, Senior Systems Analyst, Barr Smith Library, 
      University of Adelaide, GPO Box 498, Adelaide S.AUSTRALIA 5001
      Phone : (08) 228 5190                      Fax : (08) 232 3689
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: New SPARCcenter?
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:31:15 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>SS10-M41 1way                    1263
>Sclassic Server 1way             4539

	...

>For specifics, please refer to the above-mentioned white paper.

I'll have to - I'm curious why a measly Tsunami-based SPARCclassic
Server gets a higher SPECrate_int92 than a mighty Viking-based
SS10/41....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: m22448@mwunix.mitre.org (Mark Anderson)
Subject: Third Party HD for Sun & HP
Summary: Hard disks that can be used on a Sun and an HP9000/720
Keywords: sun hp disk
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:16:40 GMT

I need to buy a hard disk in the 1+GB range that can be attached to a Sun 4/370 and
then later moved to an HP9000/720.  The data need not remain intact -- that is,
we will back up the disk, so it will be O.K. to reformat it if necessary.  The main
thing is that it be useable (reliably, of course) on either machine.

Can anybody recommend a particular disk and vendor, or perhaps better: can you
tell me the names of some vendors who supply disks for either or both Sun and HP?

Thanks, I'll summarize.


Mark Anderson
-------------------------------------------------------------
The MITRE Corporation			manderso@mitre.org
7525 Colshire Drive, MS W747		voice: (703) 883-6439
McLean, VA  22102			FAX:   (703) 883-1905
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: SUN IPC as a standalone
From: PHUTTER@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Macbeth)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:23:33 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA

In article <e3hC02mE2eu401@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> esm40@cd.amdahl.com (Ed McGettigan) writes:
>Subject: SUN IPC as a standalone
>From: esm40@cd.amdahl.com (Ed McGettigan)
>Date: 15 Dec 92 03:09:12 GMT

>I was thinking about getting a SUN IPC(or a 1+) for use at home and wanted
>to run it pretty much as I do at work for developing some new X-applications.
>I planned on doing data transfers with a modem or simply on 3.5" floppy.

>After talking to some people here at work they are under the impression that I
>need some sort of a server as well (another $4000-$5000).  What's the deal?  
>I'm sure that other people are running X11R4 (tvtwm window manager)on a IPC at
>home with less than 1gig disk.  If you can help I'd appreciate it.

You don't need a server (or server pack) for home use on an IPC! I am 
running my own system now with X11R5 installed. You might, however, consider 
getting a 207 extra external hard disk or a 424 internal HD to began with. 
You DON'T need a 1 Gig Hard Disk and, even if you DO, you can connect it to 
the IPC anyway!!!!!!

>-- 
>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|Edward McGettigan      | This is a Virtual Signature(tm). Please put on   |
>|esm40@cd.amdahl.com    | your HMD, both gloves and insert $35,000 to view.|
>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+


							Greetings,

							Macbeth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: parlog@echo.canberra.edu.au (Parlog project)
Subject: Re: Zmodem between SparcStation and PC
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:47:37 GMT

In <1fn98hINNlo9@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) writes:

>>Is there a public domain package which can do terminal emulation
>>and file transfers using zmodem protocol between a SS1 (for example)
>>and a PC ?

>yeah. kermit, if ya want slooow transfers.

>sz & rz for zmodem.

Be warned that SZ and RZ are notoriously buggy.  Go to some lengths to
get the latest version you can and still be prepared to do some coding.
Perhaps this is a bit unfair to the author -- it could be fairer to say
that Unix terminal handling is amazingly inconsisent across differing
platforms and versions of the OS.  You may be lucky, you may not.

The more esoteric the comms, the harder the code is to change.  I've had
to make wholesale changes to the programs to get them to work correctly
across SunNet X.25's X.29 virtual circuits.  This was a surpise to me --
the Zmodem protocol was designed to work across X.29.

Glen Turner
Canberra University
Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
From: gjm@dasc.nl (Gijs J. Mos)
Subject: Framemaker 2.0 and OpenWindows 3.0
Summary: Frame crashes with OpenWindows 3.0
Organization: Data Sciences B.V.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:03:46 GMT


Until yesterday I used OpenWindows 2.0 on a SparcStation 1+ to access
Framemaker 1.3 (X11) on a Sparc 2. My SparcStation 1+ acts as an X server.
Framemaker was executed on the Sparc 2. 

Yesterday I upgraded my Sparcstation to SunOS 4.1.3 with OpenWindows 3.0.
Now this setup no longer works. Framemaker comes up with its control panel
(New,Open,Info etc). As soon as I select a button the licence window
frame comes up with empty content. Then nothing happens for 10 seconds.
Next the empty licence window and the frame control panel disappear.
On the Sparc 2 a core dump of maker.exe is left.

The only change I'm aware of is the newer release of the X11 display
server on the SparcStation 1+. 

Any idea how the Framemaker crash is caused? And more important; any
idea how to solve the problem (apart from upgrading Framemaker)?

Thanks,

Gijs Mos
gjm@dasc.nl
#include <stddisclaimer.h>       This might not be the view of my employer.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.misc:5855 alt.sources:2787
From: emoreno@scheria.NMSU.Edu (Elena M. Castruita)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.sources
Subject: Re: Automated FTP?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:19:07 GMT
	<NICKEL.92Dec9200738@desaster.cs.tu-berlin.de>
	<1g7shpINN9pa@atlpyr.ga.pyramid.com>
	<1992Dec11.194130.14879@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
	<1992Dec14.020745.15321@maths.tcd.ie>
Organization: New Mexico State University, Department of Computer Science



Try using the .netrc file a little more.  For example (using the
previous example from tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)):
-----------------------------.netrc------------------------------------
machine mac.archive.umich.edu login anonymous password tim@maths.tcd.ie

machine ftp.apple.com login anonymous password tim@maths.tcd.ie 
	macdef init
		cd mac/game/arcade
		get bricklesplus2.0.sit.hqx
		get brickwell.sit.hqx
		quit


--------------------------------------end----------------------------------


When you ftp to ftp.apple.com, init ( the macro defined by macdef init )
is automatically run.  No need for extra files.

Also, here is a little program to help ftp'ing...


___________________________________cut here________________________________
#include <stdio.h>
#define BUF_SIZE 255
#define LINES    20
main(){

	char a, line[LINES][BUF_SIZE];
	int i,choice;
	FILE *pipe;
	char *home=(char *)getenv("HOME");
	char *command1="grep machine ";
	char *command2="/.netrc|cut -d\" \" -f2";
	char command[BUF_SIZE];

	(void)strcat(command,command1);
	(void)strcat(command,home);
	(void)strcat(command,command2);
	
	if((pipe=popen(command, "r")) == NULL){
		printf("Error opening pipe.\n");
		exit(0);
	}
	
	for(i=0;i < LINES && fgets(line[i],BUF_SIZE,pipe) != NULL;i++) {
		line[i][strlen(line[i])-1]='\0';
		printf("%2d...%s\n",i+1,line[i]);
	}
	do{
		printf("\nEnter your choice: ");
		scanf("%d",&choice);
	}while ( choice - 1 < 0 || choice > i );

	execl("/usr/ucb/ftp","ftp","-i",line[choice-1],(char *)NULL);
}


________________________________CUT HERE_________________________________
--

		   "I know what I want out of life.
	    I just don't know what I want to put into it."
	       Copyright @ 1991, Fitzgerald Enterprizes
From: montnaro@spyder.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Information on SS-2 and SS-10 differences?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:33:26 GMT
	<1992Dec15.215743.16804@ll.mit.edu>
Reply-To: montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Dec15.215743.16804@ll.mit.edu> mikem@ll.mit.edu writes:

   The SS10 combines audio and ethernet AUI onto a single connector,
   but a custom cable is needed to split out the AUI pins to a true
   15-pin AUI connector.  Sun sells an appropriate cable, but it does
   not come with the SS10 automatically.  (Several people have posted
   about this not-well-documented subtlety, and how they got "burned"
   by it.)  So take heed: if you need the AUI connector on an SS10,
   you *must* order the breakout cable explicitly.

As machines get smaller and smaller, and the number of interfaces they must
support gets larger and larger, it's looking more like the back of a
computer should just have one massive DB-style connector with something like
1000-2000 pins. Customers could just order the appropriate "break-out" cable
for the subset of interfaces they are actually interested in. A number of
"standard" cables would be available to support standard configurations,
say:


    Sun-2	(2 DB-25 serial, video, AUI, mouse, keyboard)
    SPARC-1/2	(2 DIN serial, video, AUI, SCSI, audio)
    ...

There would be server break-out cables (no video), SCSI-only, or IPI-only
versions for people with different tastes in storage technology, even mono
versus color video.

Computer vendors could offer break-out cable upgrade programs for those
users whose interface needs change over time. (These babies won't be cheap.
What do you do with a break-out cable that isn't fully depreciated? Stick it
in a cabinet somewhere? Loan it to the local university until it's off the
books?) If you couldn't make use of the ISDN capability on the SPARC-10
right away, you could upgrade to it later, when you phone company gets its
act together.

:-)

--
Skip (montanaro@crd.ge.com)