From: ailsa@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: what i did over xmas vacation, etc.\
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:14:14 GMT

In article <C17rqt.5Hr@cs.vu.nl>, fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
>
> Ailsa, the only thing that gets me worried after your first post in
> this thread, is the fear that we are going to lose your voice to
> soc.bi. I think there is no way a human being could cope with reading
> the volume of both newsgroups.
>
never!  if i'm not going to be cold-shouldered (a silly irrational fear
i realize, but aren't we all silly and irrationa l at times?), i'm not
goign anywhere!

agreed that no way can one cope with the traffic on both newsgroups.
and neither can our machine.  we get soc.motss, alt.pagan, and a.s.b.
because i want them.  if i asked to have soc.bi added TOO, i think
orny'd have a brain aneurism on the spot.  *grin*  but soc.motss feels
like home to me, especially after two and a half years...  (i realize
that's not long compared to a lot of the people here, but it's time
enough for me to go from closeted lesbian with TS husband, to out
lesbian with TS husband, to out divorced lesbian, to out biwomyn who is
even a college graduate at long last!)

> So you sleep with men. So do I.
>
well, man, singular, but who's counting...  B)

> No. Putting it like that is too simplistic and trivializes what you are
> going through.
>
nah, s'ok.  well, it might not be from someoen else, but from you, it's
ok...

> Ok, let's say something else, then.
>
> - I love your voice here.
>
well, thank you.  *blush*  *smile*

> - Queer is a state of persona, not just of sexual identity.
>
rather.  still terribly terribly queer.

> - I can empathize to what you are going through, it must be very hard
> to be so entrenched as we are made by a culture that regards us as
> freaks, build up pride based on that, and then feel like you `have to
> go back' to straight society and leave the people you have built our
> pride with.
>
yeah.  i may not be strictly homosexual, but i am CERTAINLY not
straight.  i can't do straight society, except on my terms, whihc
include the assumption in all my conversations that i am attracted to
women, and there is nothign wrong with thios fact and if people don't
like it, they can always not listen.  i tend to comment on movies,
television, etc. and my straight audience be damned...  *grin*

> But that is not what is happening here, amiga. You are finding - or is
> it rediscovering? - new parts to yourself. Enjoy the discovery.
> Personally, I don't consider you to be less a lesbian, just more
> straight.
>
eek!  not much straight, just by definition mroe closeted *sigh*  hard
to be out when you are walking hand in hand with a motos in public.
people see the pairing and ignore the buttons...

> - And it really shouldn't matter.

i agree...  shouldn't matter to straight society who someone happens to
be sleeping with, or who someoen loves, or to whom someoen is atracted
to, either.  but it does.  *sigh*  people are so nosy....

                                                -ailsa

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