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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Re: 1992 - soon history
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:56:11 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS
Keywords: shit-list, albums, film, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec17.105744.4449@ifi.uio.no> berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad) writes:
>
>Movie of the year ?
>========================================
>
>"Brain Dead"  (New Zealand)
>
Yow!  I would have to agree 100% with that pick. I haven't had that much
fun since Evil Dead II in '87.  My face hurt from laughing so much.

If you like Evil Dead(s), Psycho, Texas Chainsaw Massacre etc......I urge
you to seek out this movie.  It's likely banned in many places.  It was
directed by the same guy who made Meet The Feebles - also banned all over 
the place.  The director describes the movie as 'Splatstick'.

Hmmmmmmm.  How does Psycho fit in???? Go see Brain Dead!

My top 10 albums of the year?..........
Have I bought 10?

in no particular order:

1.  Beastie Boys  'Check Your Head'
2.  Laibach       'Kapital'
4.  Devo          'Hardcore volume 2'
5.  Ministry      'Psalm 69'
6.  Soundtrack    'Twin Peaks:  Fire Walk With Me'
7.  Coil          'Love's Secret Domain' (release in late '91 but here in '92)
8.  Residents     not released quite yet but they are ALWAYS in my top 10
9.  Negativland   'Letter U and the Numeral 2' (not really an album)
10. Tom Waits     'Bone Machine' (can't remember the title...is that it?)

I guess I did buy 10 CDs this year.

I know I'll miss some.  For example:  Meat Beat Manifesto's 'Satyricon'. 
Definitely in my top 11.  It beats the Negativland album out for sure.

ferenc




Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: goater@fraser.sfu.ca (Rosemary Lyn Goater)
Subject: Ministry/Sepultura/Helmet concert in Vancouver
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:43:29 GMT


I'm posting just to rave for a second about the concert last
night.  Hadn't even heard of Sepultura (sp?) before, but I
came away loving them.  Real heavy.  Kinda european sounding
I guess (where are they from - I thought I heard them mumble
something about Brazil before the show started?).  Anyways,
great show.  My only complaint was Ministry could've played
longer (the whole show was 3 hours).  But hey, how long could
_anyone_ scream like that before inflicting permanent damage?!


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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Some capsule reviews
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:56:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.225723.11030@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Scott Locklin ) writes:
>Nurse With Wound "A Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table..."
>I really wish Stapleton would lose his fascination with screeching dissonance.
>I enjoy the noise fests of various other bands, unfortunately Stapleton's
>Staple seems to be harsh high-frequency screeches that are utterly 
>unlistenable most of the time. When he is not scratching chalkboards he comes
>up with some interesting pieces, but unfortunately, it is seems to be easier 
>to scratch chalkboards for the majority of the record. I ain't buying anymore
>NWW without hearing the whole thing first. I will give this tape another listen
>(Preferably while heavily sedated so as not to give me high blood pressure)
>but I doubt as I will find anything new. At least I will pinpoint that one
>interesting track. Steve Stapleton _does_ paint some really interesting &
>entertaining album covers, perhaps he should stick to the visual arts.

Hmm...this effort was one of the earlier NWW albums, done perhaps some 10-12
years ago. Judging from the sound of more recent works by Steve Stapleton,
et al, NWW's gotten a good bit more sophisticated (although "The Sylvie and
Babs Hi-Fi Companion", dating from that early period also, is 100% unlike
the above description and is well worth having...it's very early Negativland-
ish). You might want to look into something of a later vintage by NWW, like
"Gyllenskold/Brained" or the recent "Thunder Perfect Mind", which is a really
nice piece of ambient electronics.

>
D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)
From: Cannam@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:38:22
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca's message of Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:03:57 EST


In article <a292VB2w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:

| > As for Bjork, well, let's say that the original poster's premise was sound,
| > until he offered his counter-example (-:
|
|   His premise is _NOT_ sound. His _premise_ is that the
|  _ONE_ thing that makes good music is a good singing voice.


No, it wasn't.  His premise was that the one thing that makes a good
singing voice is a good singing voice.  If you remember, that's what
the thread was originally about.

							Chris

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Lyricist on Front 242
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:11:33 GMT

mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael W. Lucas) writes:
>
>Bill Leeb does *not* sing for F242.  I believe that Richard 23 does F242's
>vocals.  And he probably has a much better singing voice (undistorted) than
>Leeb.

Noper, Jean-Luc whathisname sings for Front242. R23 Irionik does the
drums and backgrounds vocals.

Jester
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From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu ( Eat Me.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: new Intermix album - when??
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:55:32 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

coan@griffin.emba.uvm.edu.uvm.edu (Brian M Coan) writes:
> Hey, does anyone know when the new Intermix album is due out??
> 
> 	coan@emba.uvm.edu


	Early January, like the 7th or something like that/. It's also the
same day for the release fo the new WILL. Of course, if you live in the UK,
you already have Intermix and can be considered cool, while the rest of the
world has to wait. grrrr.


mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
mtressle@lovelace.bsu.edu
00MBTRESSLER@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu

_I_ want a piece of MEAT!
From: luke.smith%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Luke Smith) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: music for sale !
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: luke.smith%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Luke Smith) 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: lesvente@irisa.fr (Gilles Lesventes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Current .93. and similar stuff...
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:42:42 GMT
Reply-To: lesvente@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA, Rennes, France

Vinyl Experience address :

10 Hanway Street
London NW1

Prices are high there for old material but the pound is not so expensive these days .
Prices are fair for new releases but I think that european prices are higher than
what american listeners are ready to throw out of the windows ...

You can also order directly to World Serpent (the editor of C93 new stuff). I think that the address is on the cds. It is too complicated for being remembered just like that ...

---
Gilles Lesventes 

	"La seule difference entre ce labo et le Titanic est que sur le
	 Titanic, il y avait un orchestre" (Courrier International . 7/5/92)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: roadrash@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (The Man With No Name)
Subject: Re: Who wants to help me?
Organization: The Urethane Underground
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:17:06 GMT


Throbbing Gristle's Greatest Hits is a good place to start if you want
to start at the beginning.  Throbbing Gristle is the first industrial
band and gave industrial its name.  (from Industrial Records Ltd.)

Most of TG's music is pretty harsh and not very dancable.  It really
does sound like machinery.  However, you will find the roots of most
of the modern forms of industrial in TG's Greatest Hits.  There is
some "machine shop" crashing, some "video game" beeping, and some 
"drum machine" beats on this album.

The CD also has a list of the other TG albums with a list of tracks 
for each.  I haven't been able to decipher why some of tracks in this
list are boxed.  They are not the same tracks that are on my CD.

____________________________________________________________________________
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and Road Riders life would be meaningless."            DON'T CALL ME DUUDE!

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 they just grind away..."                     clueless Usenet.newbie
From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Carl Stone
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:07:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

In article <Bzq6us.6BE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes:
>	Oh, if you can get your mitts on it and _want_ some raucous Carl
>Stone music, try and get a copy of "Hop Ken". It's the evil, anti-"Shing Kee".
>In _this_ piece, Stone uses _only_ a copy of Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an
>Exhibition" (the Ravel orchestration), and it sounds like some marching
>band from hell gone totally _nutz_!!! When I heard this on some NPR program
>I forget the name of a few years ago, I nearly sent my car into the ditch
>because I was laughing so hard while driving! Not on any disc _I_ know, but
>if you try the contact address in the liner notes to _Mom's_, you might
>luck out...
>
>D.A.C. Crowell

"Hop Ken" has, as far as I know, been released on TWO cds:

Carl Stone: FOUR PIECES (electro-acoustic discs 201)
--Shing Kee shows up on this as well  

Another Coast (various composers): Music and Arts programs of America
                                   (cd-276)
--if you own the four pieces disc, there's no new material for you on this
one, but there are some very nice pices here by Paul Dresher (and smome
other o.k. pieces by other composers)

Michael DeMurga
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jgs1@ra.msstate.edu (jimi strickland)
Subject: Re: EBN: Any comments on their video?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:37:57 GMT

  I have both the EBN video and the CD.
  The remixes are really good, I think.
  I love the video.  My friend gave it to me for Christmas.
  If you can find it, get it.

           -jimi-

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Tom ELlard?
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:23:00 GMT

does anyone have tom's new address??


-- 
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smj@sdf.lonestar.org <Cs&E>
From: epstein@nubis.rutgers.edu (david epstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DT/NU
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:43:13 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I am not too familiar with Noise Unit but do have what I believe is 
Doubting Thomas's first album (there is a later disc with maybe five
songs on it I think).

The group is made up of D.R. Goettel and Cevin Key from Skinny Puppy.  The
music, mostly synth and samples, is a lot cleaner sounding then SP and has,
in some places, a soundtrack feel (indeed, one of the tracks is entitled "theme
from PRESSUREHEAD").  The music is fairly interesting as are the samples but
it doesn't vary much and lacks, in my opinion, intensity.

The album didn't inspire me to learn much more about the project, but I do
take it out every so often to listen to.

hope you find this helpful,

-david
epstein@nubis.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: owen@emds.enet.dec.com (Steve Owen)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organisation: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:09:06 GMT


In article <1992Dec31.191753.19191@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Scott Locklin ) writes...
>In article <ben.725776605@ipoint> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>>an2531@anon.penet.fi (/dev/high) writes:
>>
>>>Now, the part of the nite that very nearly ruined my whole
>>>high - the break between Helmet and Ministry was filled with
>>>Hank Williams Sr. Straight, nothing else, loud, twangy, music
>>>to commit suicide by. It was the worst experience ever. Has
>>>anyone else had this happen with this tour? The crowd was
>>
>>Ah, they did this at Lollapalooza Two, too. :)
>>
>And in Fitchburgh Ma...

Don't forget the Al is into country music.  He has a country band (which I've 
heard will release an album soon).

Personally, I thought the twangy music worked very well for building tension
before Ministry hit the stage.

Later...
Steve

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Steve Owen                                                               /// 
owen@emds.enet.dec.com                                               \\\/// 
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From: eillib@cs.mcgill.ca (Bill FILLMORE)
Subject: anyone know when Ministry will be in Montreal??
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: rec.music.industrial
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:31:01 GMT

Does anyone know when the Ministry will be playing 
in the Montreal area?

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From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: DT/NU
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:31:18 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: DT/NU
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:32:15 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: DT/NU
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:31:02 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

  .. I was wondering if someone could give me some information/reviews on 
the following:  Doubting Thomas, d Noise Unit.

Thanks

Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca

Bert: Ernie? Where are you? I miss you.

Ernie: Go shove your pointy head up your ass, Bert.
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ambient stuff...
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:15:19 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US


Can anyone reccomend some groups to me?  I am new to this industrial stuff.
I have picked up the follwing.
Cop Shoot Cop - Consumer Revolt -- Very Good!
Einstuerzende neubauten - Drawings of patient OT -- Good...
KMFDM - Money -- Sucked...

With that, can someone name a bunch of bands I would like?
I dont like the dance-pop crap, more ambient type stuff.  Im looking
for some TG albums, with no luck....
Thanks...
From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Subject: Ministry in SF
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:45:53


Anyone going to Ministry on Wednesday?  I've never been to the Civic
Auditorium and I was wondering what the easiest way to get there from the
south bay is, parking situation, etc.

-milt

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dyck@mpr.ca (Trevor Dyck)
Subject: Re: Ministry/Sepultura/Helmet concert in Vancouver
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 20:39:41 GMT

I thought the concert was pretty good, but I was dissappointed that
they didn't play JBMH or Supernaut.  I thought I had read on this group
that they played both those songs in other cities on the tour.  Does 
anyone know the story on this??

They played: (may not be correct order)

NWO
The Missing
Deity
Hero
Just One Fix
TV Song  (w/ Chris Connelly)
So What  (       "         )
Psalm 69
Thieves
Stigmata

Scarecrow (encore)
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Re: screaming in NIN "Fixed"
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:33:43 GMT

I think that Fixed is much better than Broken, and I hope that the comming 
record will sound more like that. I find Broken Quite boring with too much
guitars. I'd rather listen to synth music with added guitars than the opposite.

Just my opinion,

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"It is my opinion, that the man on the shroud is Jesus Christ"
"...it's Christmas eve..." - Dead of winter/SP (It's cold up here...)

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From: chuff@agora.rain.com (Chris Hufnagel)
Subject: Re: NIN Broken
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:07:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.143933.2788@maths.tcd.ie> bannistr@maths.tcd.ie (Jeff Bannister) writes:
>Is there any reason why my cd player shows up 99 tracks for Broken
>but tracks 7-99 are each about 2 secs long. Am I missing something?
>
>Jeff.
>

My copy of Broken came on 2 CD's.  One standard 3" with all the songs except
"Physical" by A. Ant and "Suck" by Pigface, which were on a 1" 'single' CD.

Is this a USA only gimmick? Or do I have some early production?
BTW, my copies don't have tracks 7-97 for obvious reasons.

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From: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry in LA (Sat 26th)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:14:14 PST
Reply-To: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Yes there was country music
Yes there was hardly anything in the stage prop department
Yes the sound sucked (Industrial/Grunge at the Universal Amph? Give me a break)
Yes I was lucky enough to miss Spatula and Headgear
Yes I managed to sneak in my camera
Yes the security was at a 50:1 ratio
Yes the Ministry show was short
Yes the Ministry show quite frankly sucked
Yes the previous tour through (I saw them in Ventura), kicked this one's ass
Yes Ministry and the performers are talented, but...
No I will NOT buy their new country & western hick album
No I will NOT play the harmonica on stage
No I will NOT wear the latest in western apparel
No I will NOT pay more then $7 for a lousy T-Shirt
No I will NOT pay more then $10 to see such an event again
No I will NOT believe what promoters tell you

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From: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: High Times with Skinny Puppy
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:19:57 PST
Reply-To: xorcist@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat) writes:

>
> Did anyone happen to see the latest issue of High Times? There's a pretty
> nifty interview in it with cEVIN, Dwayne, and Ogre. It's really
> interesting. It's not so much about the music, rather it focuses more on the
> aspect of how drugs have affected the band and their music. It seems like
> they're particularly fond of marijuana. According to them, every song they
> have ever done was done while under the influence of THC. If you haven't
> already done so, I highly recommend listening to Skinny Puppy when you're
> under the influence of THC. You'll see gOD.
>

Although I highly doubt while under the influence of THC you'll see god
while at a SP concert, (you may see the floor fly up and hit your face),
it make a bit more sense now why at the end of a POST interview last year
with cevin that he was holding up a High Times during the interview...
subliminally.... G - Whadda bunch of grate guys.

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