HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck)
Subject: Re: How to mail PICT images over internet??
Reply-To: beck@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:41:46 GMT



>I am not sure if this is the right news group to post this question.
>I want to know how to send and recieve PICT images created by Macintosh
>programs such as CANVAS 3.0 over internet.  Any suggestions, pointers
>will be greately appreciated.


Normally, for binary transfers, FTP should be used. If you only have mail:

UUencode them. Mail them. UUdecode them. done.

BTW, PBM+ offers you conversions into nearly any existing other image
format as gif, ilbm, tiff...

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Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics
From: weisen@daedalus.dcrt.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: Re: Request for Human Skeleton
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:07:08 GMT

In article 11099@informix.com, proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
> 
> Does my memory deceived me, or is it not the case that some place
> like Colorado they are digitizing a complete human body by actually
> cutting it into very thin slices (like 0.1 mm or something) and
> scanning each one optically? Presumably it must have been treated
> in some way to induce a kind of ultra rigor mortis ...
> 
> These seems like a wonderfully macabre project, and I'd be interested
> if anyone has more information about it.
> 
> Paul

Sorry if I'm attributing this to the wrong person, but I missed the
original post.

I remember reading about this a while ago.  I think it was early to
mid-80's in some geek magazine like Popular Science.  They were just
doing an arm then and they were slicing it with a normal deli slicer.
I think that the ultra rigor mortis was called frozen :-).  They were
taking pictures of the slices, circling the important structures with
colored markers, and scanning the pictures in.  I guess that color
scanner resolution wasn't that hot back then.

I'm glad to hear that someone has moved on to the rest of the body, but
the thought of slicing certain things makes me squeamish.


--Neil



--
Neil I. Weisenfeld                    National Institutes of Health
Computer Engineer                     Building 12A, Room 2033
weisen@alw.nih.gov                    Bethesda, MD 20892
uunet!nih-csl!weisen                  phone: (301) 402-2788
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: gold@imp.sim.es.com (Bruce Gold)
Subject: It's just an illusion
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:44:56 GMT

salm@festival.ed.ac.uk (Jonathan C Salmon) writes:

|> The apparent 3D effect is purely an illusion...
|> 
|> Once this is appreciated, the game turns...extremely mediocre...

Yah, I heartily agree.  When I discovered that my retinas were mere 2D sensors
and that the stereoscopic 3D effect is just based on learned assumptions and 
parsing rules in my visual cortex, I decided it wasn't worth it.  So now I only 
look with one eye at a time, saving the other for my old age.
-- 
				Bruce Gold
				   Utah
From: jbb@livia.acs.Virginia.EDU (Joseph B. Burch)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: Holography NOT from real object
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:05:45 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <83828@ut-emx.uucp>, malirath@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Fisher) writes:
|> I can't remember where I read about it, but this summer I heard of a
|> system to create holograms from computer images. It involved multiple
|> exposers as the film was moving closer/further from the display screen.
|> 
Since the physics of holography are known, why can't one compute a hologram?
In principle, it shouldn't be much more difficult than ray-tracing. Comments 
appreciated ... 
 
Joe Burch                         jbb@virginia.edu
ITC-ACS 
University of Virginia
From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: This is MST3K opinions
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:25:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper) says,
in part:

>Actually, I was kinda disappointed. I think they could have done
>with less interviews of people saying "It's totally new, I always
>watch it. My friends and I eat pancakes and watch it." And they
>should've used more behind the scenes and how they do it stuff.

   Having been one of the lucky people to actually tour the studio,
I was astonished at how little was shown.  I kept saying, "What is
this person doing on the screen?  Like I CARE how you and your friends
watch MST3K!!!  Let's see the prop room!  Let's see the set!  Let's see
the cast!  Doogie Howser kiss my--"  And so on.
   An INCREDIBLE disappointment.  I could have done a thousand times
better with a Sony camcorder and one week at the studio (and permission
from Best Brains, of course).
   Oh well.  Maybe they'll do better next time.  I can always hope.
(I should heed the previous paragraph and do it myself.)

		-EMeyer

-- 
"Unstable condition--a symptom of life       | Eric A. Meyer (eam3@po.CWRU.edu)
 In mental and environmental change          |  Alumnus,  Beta Nu of Theta Chi
 Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux  |---------------------------------
 Of human interface and interchange-"  -N.P. |    "What do you think, sirs?"
From: 6500sws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Susan W. Stockwell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: This is MST3K opinions
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:52:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.164331.28803@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:

>In article <1eg857INNe51@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)  
>writes:
>> 

>You might have done better with a camcorder on the tour.  Why even a
>week?  Thought the title "This is MST3K" was appropriate.  But I think
>most fans wanted "Behind the Scenes at MST3K"

The annoying thing about it was that they  continually advertised
it as a behind-the-scenes sort of thing.  Probably 99% of the   
people who watched it were fans already, so it seemed kindergardenish.

The other thing that was a little annoying was that they seemed to
show the good moments in the ads for the show.  I could hack
it if there were more tv critics, not ideal, but acceptable.
But the parts were the narrator guy leads you by the hand:
"This is Joel", etc.  could have been summarized very easily
by, say, watching the opening credits before ANY GIVEN EPISODE!

Well, Turkey Day, here we come.  Can't wait!


--
Twice five syllables,                                      /\_/\
Plus seven, can't say much -- but...                      = o o =
That's haiku for you. -- Douglas Hofstadter                 /^\
======>======>======> Susan W. Stockwell 6500sws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
From: ag154@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy C. Radwan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: A cult?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:48:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ag154@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy C. Radwan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper) says:

>They kept mentioning how MST3K is a cult phonemenon (sp?). Do 
>you think we're part of a cult?!
>

Hey, yeah! We should all shave the MST3k logo into the back of our heads,
and become an Illuminati-type society! 

I like it!

Dare I ask... "What do you think, sirs?"


Come to think of it, this is a pretty stupid idea, isn't it?
-- 
"This is just my personal preference, but I    | Jeremy C. Radwan / WindRacer
 don't want to live somewhere where the        | ag154@cleveland.freenet.edu
 primary geographical feature is the horizon." | RADWANJC@udavxb.oca.udayton.ed
    -- George Carlin, on the state of Indiana  | Co-Op, MS&T Systems, BP Oil
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From: ag154@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy C. Radwan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K - Comedy Central not dumb!!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:18:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ag154@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeremy C. Radwan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>Imagine my joy when I saw that as soon as the Big Three hit the theater, 
>the logo disappeared!

Yeah, it seems a LOT of channels do that now-a-days.
I remember complaining to Channel 22 in Dayton. They would put their little
(ok, it was HUGE) thunderstorm warning symbol in the bottom right corner.
This got extremely annoying...especially during football and basketball
games, when it covered up the score!

Needless to say, after a few calls, they wisened up and took off the logo
while displaying the score.

Cheers to CC for doing something similar.
-- 
"This is just my personal preference, but I    | Jeremy C. Radwan / WindRacer
 don't want to live somewhere where the        | ag154@cleveland.freenet.edu
 primary geographical feature is the horizon." | RADWANJC@udavxb.oca.udayton.ed
    -- George Carlin, on the state of Indiana  | Co-Op, MS&T Systems, BP Oil
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: This is MST3K opinions
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:53:22 GMT


HA! That would be good! Let BB do their own "Behind the scenes"...
we'd be getting all kinds of strange stuff - a clip of JFK getting
shot, along wth a voiceover "It was a sad day for all, when Josh was
blown to bits by an enraged Sandy Farnk fan..."

Hmmm.  Yeah.  I LIKE the idae

Now, if I could just learn to type!

Lurch@delphi.com
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From: norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K ratings?
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:40:38 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


>> Like you can compare MST3K to any other show on T.V in a fair
>> forum...
>> 
>> LETS HEAR FROM YOU.........
>> A simple "I like MST3K" will do
>> If you like the show, post something!
>> We know we are not alone!
>> 


>
>Okay. 
>
>I like MST3K.
>
>Good enough?
>
>"Wow, your tail is really long."
>"THAT'S not my tail..."
>		-Tom Servo (?) during "Godzilla vs. Megalon"
>

>========================================================================
>Why these nightmares? Why this sky?            Steve Tilson
>This long road. This empty room.               sdt8s@virginia.edu
>========================================================================

Thank you!
Why don't we start a question and answer type thing...
I know that I don't get the reference for about
1 outta 10-20 jokes
usually someone in the room gets the ones I miss
and vice versa...
But there are always those few that no one in the
room can place...wish I could think of one right now..
I'll have to rewatch some shows...
My point is...do you think we could ask questions
about joke sources without getting flamed for our stupidity?
Anyone else think this is a good idea?



-- 
--------------
Timothy James McInerney 
tmcinern@feds26.Prime.com    "I wanna decide who lives 
norbert@wpi.wpi.edu           and who dies"  - Crow
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k,rec.arts.tv
From: lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Craig Lowery)
Subject: Re: MST3K - Comedy Central not dumb!!
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:35:21 GMT

In article <By3HqD.Jp@world.std.com> dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown) writes:
>
>Imagine my joy when I saw that as soon as the Big Three hit the theater, 
>the logo disappeared!
>

But, nonetheless, the logo's presence during host segments is still quite
annoying.  I'd rather they go back to the "Comedy Central" words only
super on the bottom left at the end of the opening title sequence.

One bright spot during this weekends experiments, though (at least the one
I saw) was that Obnoxious Voice (Comedy Central's extremely annoying
announcer) did NOT say anything over the closing credits.

Win some.  Lose some.

<Craig>



-- 

Craig Lowery                                            lowery@AuE.com
Math and Computer Science
Mississippi College
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Look what just happened
Keywords: We just hit the magic number
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:58:47 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov23.190846.17735@husc3.harvard.edu> mduhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Matthew Duhan) writes:
>
>  Well, MST3K fans,  we finally did it!.  I just checked my news, and if 
>everything goes well, this should be article 3001.  What do you think?
>Was the last article the Mystery Science Posting 3000?

You did it...you finally did it you damn dirty apes!

Damn you...damn you all to HELL!

Actually that was just article 2850 on my newsreader :), but they all
work different.
	Jason
	Southern Arizona Gizmonic Institute
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 08:46:01 CST
From: <U59936@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Need taping advice...

Don't miss the one about the gila monster...My personal favorite tho
sorry I am not hardcore enough to cite the exact title.  My other
favorite is the Home Economics at the University of Iowa one.

--julie "I was at the live show, but I'm not the pancake girl"
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold)
Subject: Re: Countdown to "This is MST3k"
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:17:30 GMT

gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner) writes:

> Before I get flamed, let me ammend that to say that I don't consider
> myself an MST-3k "Pro."  Just another fanatic like you all, probably.
> 
> Does taping every episode at watching it twice make me so strange??

	Taping every episode? ......... no.
	Only watching each episode twice? ...........................YES!
	There are some episodes I've seen (all the way through) at least
4 or 5 times (like Daddy-O and Godzilla Vs. Gaos) while others, though I've
tried 4 or 5 times, I have yet to be able to sit all the way through *ONCE*
(like Sidehackers). Usually how I do this is to run the tape while I'm doing 
something else reasonably important....

	-- steve


-- 
   The only difference between a Communist        G. Steve Arnold
   and a Socialist is that the Socialist will     Dept. Math and Stats.
   only confiscate the resources that are         BGSU
   profitable.                                    sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu
From: cecilia@juliet.caltech.edu (Prof. Wagstaff)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: MST3K lunchboxes?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:20 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: juliet.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Nov13.044139.27800@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) writes...
> 
>Well, MY bumper stickers adorn my car, which is also adorned by personalized
>plates which read "MST3K".  Top THAT.
> 
WELL...my MAC talks MST3K to me almost anytime I want it to and when it's
idle, my screen saver is a Joel & the Bots GIF image...so there!

>(my person is sometimes adorned by a custom-silkscreened Gizmonics
>jumpsuit...)
> 
MY person is almost all of the time adorned by a custom made Gizmonics
t-shirt which was a given to me by the Gizmonics jumpsuit guy ;-)

>Yes, I've bought everything in the catalog... and my "Play MST for Me" tape
>is autographed by the guys.
> 
Ok...I should know better than to try "out top" you.

>(I'm a pathetic human being when it comes to MST3k, I know...)

Aren't we all? I'll show you just how much...on Turkey Day (THEE Turkey Day on 
CC), I usually go to my mom's house. My mom doesn't have cable, doesn't care 
about cable, doesn't want cable...
BUT, the only way my sister and I are going to go there for Thanksgiving is
to chip in to get cable for my mom's house if just for a day so we don't have
to miss Turkey Day on MST3K.  I can't live without it (well, I suppose I can
"live" but it wouldn't be any fun).

Cecilia Fialkoff                  |Doctor:"Your name was the only thing he said
Caltech                           |Tom Servo: "yeah, that and AHHHHHHH!"  
Pasadena, CA                      | 
email: cecilia@juliet.caltech.edu |            from The Amazing Colossal Man
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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: MST3K - Comedy Central not dumb!!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:57:12 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <By58Ay.Etz@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Craig Lowery) writes:
>One bright spot during this weekends experiments, though (at least the one
>I saw) was that Obnoxious Voice (Comedy Central's extremely annoying
>announcer) did NOT say anything over the closing credits.

   "Obnoxious Voice" sounds disturbing like Penn Jillette, the
"Obnoxious Host" of the "This is MST3K" special.  Coincidence?
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: bearman@iastate.edu (Robert A Denton)
Subject: Re: Turkey Day recordings
Summary: re-posting and turkey day schedule
Keywords: turkey day
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:18:32 GMT

In article <BxyEBM.GuA@news.iastate.edu> bearman@iastate.edu (Robert A Denton) writes:
>--  Once again, just to be a little more redundant, I would like someone,
>anyone, to tape the "HOME EC STORY" episode from "Viking Women and the Sea 
>Serpent" (or something like that)
>
>--  I need this program because it takes place at this great, hallowed
>University in which I am spending my parent's retirement fund (I'll pay
>it back mom, I promise) and I want a copy in order to properly torment 
>any of my professors who may have been in it (or helped produce it!)
>
>--  The episode will be aired at 4 (four) o'clock in the morning on 
>Thursday, November 26, 1992.  (I don't know if this is eastern or 
>central time)  I don't need the feature after this part of the program, just
>the first 30 minutes or so.
>
>--  If you can set your VCR to record this, it would be greatly appreciated
>and I will be glad to reimburse you for your time, cost of tape, and the cost
>of the postage to get it to Ames.  I can't record it here because the bastards
>at the cable company shut off Comedy Central at 3 AM in order to bring us 
>infomercials or VH-1.
>
>--  If you can do all this weirdness for me, or if you already have the
>episode on tape, please respond via e-mail to the address above.
>
>-                      THANKS IN ADVANCE,
>
>-                           Robert A. Denton-
>-                           Chairman of Earth.


I received two responses to this posting the first time it was up, but through
my amazing lack of awareness, they both were lost in the system and didn't get
saved, if you could e-mail me a response again, please do.  One of the messages
did not leave their address so I could send a tape to him.  Please put this in
your message if you can mail it again.  Thanks again.

************MST3K TURKEY DAY SCHEDULE: ********************
(All Times Eastern / Pacific)

Wednesday, Nov. 25:
6pm       The Beatniks (new)
8pm       Master Ninja 1
10pm      Space Travellers
Midnight  The Lost Continent

Thursday, Nov. 26:
2am       City Limits
4am       Viking Women & the Sea Serpent
6am       The Giant Gila Monster
8am       King Dinosaur
10am      Santa Claus Conquers th Martians
Noon      The Magic Sword
2pm       Teenagers From Outer Space
4pm       Hercules Unchained
6pm       The Unearthly
8pm       Gamera vs. Guiron
10pm      Fire Maidens of Outer Space (new)
Midnight  "This is MST3K" (special)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: jefhkahn@iastate.edu (Jeffrey H Kahn)
Subject: Re: This is MST3K opinions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:50:11 GMT


I was pretty disappointed.  There were too many commercials and 
too much Penn (or was it Teller?)  The best parts of the show were
the clips from the early shows (I have never seen anything from them)
and the behind the scenes stuff, like when they showed them
filming.  But combined, that was like 2 minutes.

A couple other things...I had a bunch of friends come over for
"Godzilla vs. Megalon" Friday night and I think I turned on a
lot of people to the show.  Also, I know this is a popular
request, but could someone email me a program guide?  I would 
be very grateful.

Jef.
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Turkey Day help
Date: 22 Nov 1992 07:11:35 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Distribution: ca
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@earthquake.berkeley.edu

	The cable company in my area does the VH1/CC split thing that
so many people on this group complain about. So I won't be able to see
the Turkey Day marathon from 4 AM to 4 PM Thursday. There are lots of
cool-looking features I'll miss (especially "Santa Claus Conquers the
Martians"). 

	Is there anyone in northern California (preferably in the SF
Bay Area) who will be taping this part of Turkey Day and would let
me borrow the tapes? For that matter, is there anyone who's been 
keeping tapes of old shows and who would let me borrow them? (Please
note: I'm not asking to duplicate them, which would be illegal. I just
want to borrow and watch them.) 

	Any help would be most appreciated.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |  evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |  them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: rdg@world.std.com (R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: TNT Turkey Day
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:47:02 GMT

As I always say... If an article is worth posting, it's worth posting TWICE!
-- 
Richard D. Goldstein
Schiller & Kusmer
Patent Attorneys At Law
(617) 227-5454 Telephone
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k,rec.arts.tv
From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: MST3K Postcard
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:24:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.170254.21382@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <By3HHL.Ax@world.std.com> dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov21.141817@ece.arizona.edu> evans@ece.arizona.edu writes:
>>>Has anyone else received the MST3K postcard from Comedy Central
>>>with the schedule on it.  There is also a cool picture of
>>>Joel and the Bots on the front.  

>>NO!!!  How did you manage this???  I got the CC newsletter, but no postcard.

>I got my newsleter Saturday, and a friend of mine nearby got the postcard
>but no Newsletter. Be patient, they are on the way, I am sure!

I got it today!  Great week!  I got the MST3K newsletter AND the postcard 
from Comedy Central.  I like it a lot!

-- 
........................... SERVO RULZ!! .............................
Disclaimer: "Disclaim THIS, pal!" (Crow bit me - it IS fun!)
Internet:   dmb@world.std.com   -or-   dmb7229@ultb.isc.rit.edu 
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k