From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Subject: Re: Who John Doe (and the anonymous company) is ...
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:18:53 GMT

In article <1ifb5vINNhd7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
    >>He killed himself on 27-Jan-87.
    >>
    >>
    >So how old does a story have to be? This is pretty old stuff.
    >There is no reason to dredge it up now.

Five years is old? Hmm, the initial charges against Packwood were based
on a party in 1973. That makes those charges 4 times older. Wow. Neat.

    >It is not up to Stanford to apologize. They are not
    >responsible for what everyone does with their private lives.
    >I will venture to say that he (Cox) did not do what he is
    >'suspected' of doing at the Univeristy. At least I have seen
    >no facts to support this scenario.

Cox molested the son of someone he was supervising, and it is none of
Stanfords business??? Golly, and the initial charges against Packwood
occurred at a private party, so it is none of the business of Packwoods
"employers" (the voters) either, right?

    >Well- I believe that if a person makes a mistake in their
    >lifetime, it does not negate everything that they may have
    >accomplished. He may have helped and been a great mentor to
    >many students. It is of course, not acceptable in terms of
    >what he is suspected of doing- and remember it is
    >'suspected'. So it is up to the people at that time and place
    >to decide how they want to handle the situation as far as, a
    >memorial goes.

Ah, yes. Mussolini supposedly made the trains run on time too. And Hitler
DID promote great advances in German science too.

    >>And then they minted a MEDAL for this sicko -- the Alln V.
    >>Cox medal.
    >>
    >>
    >Your use of 'sicko' is not applicable- it is a subjective
    >viewpoint that you hold. He is 'as one would say' innocent,
    >until proven guilty of said crime, that is the way it works.

You're so right -- why, silly old me, just because a guy confesses is no
reason to believe him guilty. No way. Right. Sure.

    >>It is awarded for "faculty excellence in undergradutae
    >>research".
    >>
    >And if that is true- what is wrong with it?

Hmmm -- would YOU accept the North Korean Sung medal of distinction? After
all, what does the name on the medal have to do with it? hey, how about
the P.W.Botha medal of distinction? have any problems with that? Maybe
the Exxon medal of environmental research (I actually think they do have a 
medal like that).

    >It appears that if a person makes a mistake in their life,
    >then everything they have ever done counts for nothing. We
    >could cancel out most people in history who have great
    >accomplishments credited to them, if this were the way we
    >view things.

Hey, wait till Nixon hears this! Of course, there IS a difference. Nixon,
like Cox, was never convicted of anything. Cox, unlike Nixon, did confess
his guilt to three friends.

One mistake??? Some "mistake". If molesting a 14-year old is a "mistake",
I'd like to know what your idea of a crime is.

You pedophilia-apologist you ....



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