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From: ric@updike.sri.com (Richard Steinberger)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XtAddInput or XtAddTimeout question
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:26:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: sri

Date: 27 Aug 92 21:30:23 GMT
Message-Id: <38184@unix.SRI.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	I would "like" to use XtAddInput() to allow an X application to
read data from a (IPC) message queue.  The man page specifies that the first
argument needs to be an integer file descriptor for a file that is
expecting data to be read or written (essentially).

	What I would like to do (instead) is to check whether there are any
messages (of a given type) pending in a message queue.  I would need to use
the system call msgrcv() to do this.  Since message queues do not use file
descriptors, using XtAddInput may be problematic.  [Conceivably,
I could have the sending process write to a file that the receiving process
has open, but that seems convoluted].

	Instead, I am thinking of using XtAddTimeout() to check the message
queue every few seconds.  XtAddTimeout() would supply the name of a 
routine that executes a non-blocking msgrcv() call, processes any
messages, then re-establishes XtAddTimeout().  This is polling, clear and
simple, am I can probably live with it.

	My question: Is this (polling) the best way to go?  Has anyone else
used message queues in X applications and found a more elegant way to be
notified of the presence of a message of a particular type (or lacking that,
any message at all)?  Thanks for any suggestions.  Please reply to the
address below.

regards,
	ric steinberger
	ric@updike.sri.com
From: zwicky@erg.sri.com (Elizabeth Zwicky)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:40:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

Date: 27 Aug 92 22:40:11 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug27.224011.15852@erg.sri.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

In article <1992Aug26.175124.19683@twg.com> "David Herron" <david@twg.com> writes:
>Lots of people point at 3d borders on widgets and try to make fun of them.
>Look at it from the other slant for a moment.. throw away the 3d borders
>and use a Mac (pre System 7) or something written with Athena Widgets.
>How does the user tell the difference between a button and a text entry 
>box?  They both look *the* *same* (a box with text inside).  But on Motif 
>(for instance) the button looks like a button because it's raised, while 
>text entry areas look like text entry because they're sunken. 

I don't make fun of 3d borders; I deprecate them. Why does sunken=text
and raised=button? Shouldn't sunken be a depressed button? (In fact,
sunken often *is* a depressed button.) Couldn't
this be done with *much* greater clarity by some means other than fake
3d? Like, for instance, the text areas have lines under them just like
the lines on a form where you're supposed to write things.

In the old NeWS toolkit, you had checkboxes. When they were selected,
they had great big check marks in them. I comprehend this. In
FrameMaker, unselected items have little raised squares, selected
items have sunken squares. I do not comprehend this. Sometimes I think
the sunken ones are supposed to be off. Yes, I know, I'm supposed to
think of them like the kind of button that sinks in when you press it,
but a) they don't really look like that b) no button I've ever seen
goes raised->sunken; they either go raised->less-raised or
flat->sunken and c) it just doesn't work for me.  The sunken ones are
also darkened, which means that in a one-of-many selection, the item
that's currently selected is the least visible; it looks almost greyed
out, like it's inaccessible or something. Plus sometimes if you press
on something sunken it pops out, sometimes it does nothing, and
sometimes it acts as if you selected it again. If this 3-d stuff is
supposed to mean something, instead of being glitz, I don't know what
it is; I can't find a consistent meaning.

	Elizabeth D. Zwicky
	zwicky@erg.sri.com
From: hugh@netcom.com (John Ivermost)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: problem with X on Sun IPX & greyscale mon
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:51:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:32:55 GMT
Message-Id: <5!kn9qb.hugh@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

We recently replaced some IPCs with IPXs and were surprised when we ran
X and twm and suddenly moving windows around (both opaquely and not)
started suffering from missing refreshes.  Basically the outline would be
moved correctly, and the root window "exposed" by the move would be
updated correctly, but the contents of the window being moved, and its
scrollbars, title bars, etc., would not be refreshed until we did a
refresh of the entire display.  

Someone here suggested that perhaps this was a known bug - we are running
X11R5 but are not at the current patchlevel.  The monitors are what sun
calls /dev/cgsix0, although according to our man page for Xsun this
is a color monitor (and ours are greyscales).

When I did a wininfo on an xterm I noticed that the Visual for it
was set to PseudoColor - I wonder if this is correct.  

Another note: when running the NeWS server instead of just plain X this
problem does not occur (running NeWS with twm as the window manager).

The questions I'd like answered if possible are:
	- has anyone heard of this bug before?
	- if so, do you know of a fix?
	- even if you haven't heard of it, are you running X11R5 and
	twm on a Sparcstation IPX successfully?

I'd appreciate replies via email.  When and if we get over this I'll post
the answer(s).

Thanks in advance

Vernon Lee
hugh@netcom.com
From: holder@telesoft.com (Robert L. Holder @ignite)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Problems with X386 1.2E dumping core on SVR4
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:29:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA

Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 21:53:04 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug29.215304.29135@telesoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x

In <1992Aug29.132231.20880@sinkhole.unf.edu> shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite) writes:


>>We have compiled the X11R5 PL16 plus patches to get X386 1.2E.
>>The system was built on a SVR4 (Consensys) with sdbm library.
>>
>>Everything compiled and installed straight. The system starts
>>(using mwm an a couple of xterms etc) but after a while the
>>server dumps core. It appears to happen when one moves the mouse
>>but I'm not sure that is the reason.
>>
>>Trying to build the server with -g option gives the following when
>>linking error message:
>>
>>ld: X386: libelf error:  Memory error: output file space elf_update:

This may be caused by insufficient kernel limits for 

HDATLIM
SDATLIM
HVMMLIM
SVMMLIM
HSTKLIM
SSTKLIM

When I link LARGE programs with -g I had to boost these from the
defaults of 0x1000000 to 0x3000000. This was under NCR Unix SVR4/386.
Try to boost these and relink your kernel. Then relink you application
with -g.
From: kent@exodus.reuters.com.sg (kent)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Graphics Performance for X in SVR4/386
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:52:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Reuters Singapore

Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:17:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep2.031714.29059@nuscc.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
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From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:35:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ISC - Bunker Ramo, Spokane, WA

Date: 27 Aug 92 02:46:45 GMT
Message-Id: <2569@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors

In article <1992Aug26.175124.19683@twg.com> david@twg.com (David Herron) writes:
>How does the user tell the difference between a button and a text entry 
>box?  They both look *the* *same* (a box with text inside).  But on Motif 

'Cause a button has prominently rounded edges, and a TE box is squared.
Works for me...

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From: krawling@papaya.ucs.indiana.edu (Ken Rawlings)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:49:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

Date: 3 Sep 92 20:25:16 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep3.152523.11437@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.human-factors,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

In article <NEERI.92Sep3180619@iis.ethz.ch> neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Neeracher) writes:
>A minor point: Laserprinter are usually *not* connected with a serial (RS-232)
>connection, they are networked.

        Sorry, I thought about changing this when I wrote it, but figured it
didn't matter. What I meant was hooking it up over LocalTalk, which is still a
serial serial connection if memory serves me.

>Can't be done without a special program, but I know how to find it :-)
>
>ftp to sumex-aim.stanford.edu, file info-mac/util/sendps-20.hqx

        Thanks a million. The problem was that the functionality of SendPs
wasn't mentioned in the 00-abstracts file(it just talk about it being fixed),
and thus it wasnt found by grepping for Postscript or Printer. 

>Maybe this situation will change in the not-too-distant future (the printing
>architecture is one of the oldest and quirkiest part of the Mac), but the
>problem with a postscript file is that it is not obvious whether to print it as
>a postscript file or as a text file.

        I understand the dilemma, but I have a problem with an operating system
that doesn't let you do something anyway. It could pop up a requester saying
something like, "Are you _sure_ you want to send this raw" or something. The
fact that it won't do it at all is more than a bit annoying.

>Trust me: There is no way it could run, because it is not yet in the correct
>Mac format. 

        I'm not talking about the .hqx files, i'm referring to binhex4.bin
(see below)

>>            This is a _real_ problem when you have a bunch of
>>            .hqx files, and have a copy of binhex4.bin that you downloaded
>>            with a PC
>
>So convert these .hqx files with Stuffit, or Compact Pro, or tickle. Would you
>expect to read uuencoded files on unix without uudecode ?

        Sheesh, don't assume i'm a _total_ imbecile. :-) 

        It's a totally separate issue. Look more closely at what I said  "when
you have a bunch of .hqx files, and have a copy of binhex4.bin that you
downloaded with a PC". I have the _MAC FORMAT_ binary for the "un-hqxer", and
it won't execute it.

        Anyway, I think these issue point out a central problem of a "Total"
GUI based operating system: If the functionality is not already there, it's
damn hard to get something new done.

        Thanks again for the reference to SendPS.

                                                Regards,
                                                        Ken Rawlings


-- 
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: Indiana University|           -J.R.R. Tolkien(referring to Emacs)
From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: RE: want generic resource to override specific application resource
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:15:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date:    Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:09:45 PDT
Message-Id: <920901090945.254000cc@TGV.COM>
X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu"

#
#  i have the following in my .Xresource (that i load with xrdb):
#
#	*vt100.translations:#override Meta<KeyPress>: string(0x1b) insert()
#
#  however, while this works on the dec, it doesn't work on the hp
#  unless i place a leading "xterm" on the line.  on the hp,
#  /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm has:
#
#	XTerm*VT100.Translations:#override Meta<KeyPress>: insert-seven-bit()
#
#  what do i need to do to get the translations listed initially to work on
#  the hp?  i appreciate your taking a moment to answer.
#

report the bug to hp.  Their Xrm routines are broken.  There is basically
no difference between the two resource lines except that the latter refers
to the class resource and not the instance.  However, the top one should
work on the hp.

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

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From: frite@vlsi.polymtl.ca), (Michel Besner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Getting Paned Window to tile horizontaly ...
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:45:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, lab. INFO

Date: 27 Aug 92 17:06:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug27.170600.8600@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



	Hi there !

		Is it possible to get PanedWindow to lay out children
in a HORIZONTALY tiled format ? I need two frames side by side and
I want to allow the user to resize the two frames with a PanedWindow
or anything similar to it.

	Any suggestions is appreciated :) :)


				Michel Besner, eng.
				Sacred Heart Hospital 
				research center
				Montreal
				mbesner@iris1.metal.polymtl.ca



	"life is a big bowl of Jell-O :) :) ! "
From: hawkes@whizkids.lcs.mit.edu (Steven C. Hawkes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xterm with VT320 emulation
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:42:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

Date: 31 Aug 92 17:40:38 GMT
Message-Id: <HAWKES.92Aug31114038@kuwait.whizkids>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can anybody explain to me how to get xterm to emulate a VT320 with 8-bit
control sequences (i.e., DEC CSI/SS3 crud)?  Or is there another X terminal
emulator that will do the job?  I'm on a Sun3/80 running X11R5 and need to
talk to a board that only knows how to talk to a VT320 in 8-bit mode, or a
Wyse 50 or Televideo TV950, none of which seem compatible with xterm.  I
didn't see anything in the FAQ about this, and I got no response last time I
asked in comp.windows.x.apps.  Any help would be most appreciated.
--
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From: sriram@tcs.com (Sriram Srinivasah)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Looking for a spline generator program
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:22:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:00:29 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug21.010029.10907@tcsi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x.pex

In article <1992Aug20.193414.7079@chpc.utexas.edu>, feizal@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Feizal Mirza) writes:
|> Hi
|> 
|> I am looking for a spline generation program. The thing is that I want
|> to replace XDrawLine in my application to something like
|> XDrawSpline !!.
|> 
|> 
|> Feizal
|> UT-CHPC
|> Austin
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|> Feizal Mirza                    Internet: feizal@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
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|> The University of Texas System                      Austin, Texas 78758


Look at the code for xv2.00 available on export.

Sriram
(sriram@tcs.com)
From: rrb@seas.smu.edu (Robert R. Bailey)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XView and XGetImage
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:59:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx

Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:18:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug28.031837.18034@seas.smu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am working with a 7-bit gray scale image and an overlay of several colors
using XView on a Sun SPARC.  After displaying the image and generating the
overlay, I can't seem to read the resulting image back so that I can write
it out to a rasterfile.

The following is a summary of how I display the image:
  dsply = (Display *) xv_get( canvas, XV_DISPLAY);
  win = (Drawable) xv_get( canvas_point_window( canvas), XV_XID);
  set color map;
  xi = XCreateImage( dsply, default_visual, 8, ZPixmap, 0, data,
    width, height, 8, width);
  XPutImage( dsply, win, gc, xi, 0,0,0,0, width, height);

Now, I draw on top of the image:
  XDrawLine( dsply, win, gc, x,y,x,y); 
  etc.;

I can scroll around and draw some more.
Now I want to take the resulting modified image and write it to a rasterfile.
(If I can get it to an XImage, I can to it.)  I tried:
  new_xi = XGetImage( dsply, win, 0,0, width,height, AllPlanes, ZPixmap);

But this does not work.  I can only get that part of the image that is
currently displayed in the window, which is smaller than the whole
(1024 X 1024) image.

How do I get the whole image?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bob Bailey
-- 
From: Bob Bailey = rrb@seas.smu.edu
From: hdbae@bach.etri.re.kr (Hyung Deug Bae)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:08:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:03:30 -0700
Message-Id: <9209012303.AA00347@bach.etri.re.kr>

etri
From: srpxpert@godiva.ssw.com (Selene R. Platt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to toggle a Toggle?
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:47:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:58:30 -0400
Message-Id: <9208251858.AA18942@godiva.ssw.com>


> I'm writing my first X program , in which I would like to use a Toggle
> widget. My question is : can the state of a Toggle widget be changed by
> the application....

Are you using Motif widgets?  If so, just use XmToggleButtonSetState()!  You
probably will want to set 'notify' (the 3rd argument) to 'False' so that the
valueChangedCallback isn't called when you internally change the button's
state.

- Selene Platt

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From: rot@multisys.com (Republic of Taiwan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XView and XGetImage
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:30:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Multimedia Information Systems Corporation, San Jose, CA                        TEL: (408) 437-3031            E-mail: info@multisys.com

Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:38:18 GMT
Message-Id: <BtrD3v.5oF@multisys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug28.031837.18034@seas.smu.edu> rrb@seas.smu.edu (Robert R. Bailey) writes:
=I am working with a 7-bit gray scale image and an overlay of several colors
=using XView on a Sun SPARC.  After displaying the image and generating the
=overlay, I can't seem to read the resulting image back so that I can write
=it out to a rasterfile.
=
=The following is a summary of how I display the image:
=  dsply = (Display *) xv_get( canvas, XV_DISPLAY);
=  win = (Drawable) xv_get( canvas_point_window( canvas), XV_XID);
=  set color map;
=  xi = XCreateImage( dsply, default_visual, 8, ZPixmap, 0, data,
=    width, height, 8, width);
=  XPutImage( dsply, win, gc, xi, 0,0,0,0, width, height);
=
=Now, I draw on top of the image:
=  XDrawLine( dsply, win, gc, x,y,x,y); 
=  etc.;
=
=I can scroll around and draw some more.
=Now I want to take the resulting modified image and write it to a rasterfile.
=(If I can get it to an XImage, I can to it.)  I tried:
=  new_xi = XGetImage( dsply, win, 0,0, width,height, AllPlanes, ZPixmap);
=
=But this does not work.  I can only get that part of the image that is
=currently displayed in the window, which is smaller than the whole
=(1024 X 1024) image.
=
=How do I get the whole image?
=
=Thanks for any suggestions.
=
=Bob Bailey
=-- 
=From: Bob Bailey = rrb@seas.smu.edu

I don't know much about xview, but...
IMHO, try getting the image from xi than getting from win.
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Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR HARRY MANDELL
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:25:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA

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From: azhao@cs.arizona.edu (Qiang Alex Zhao)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help -- set/get WM_DELETE_WINDOW
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:20:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Univ of Arizona, Tucson

Date: 18 Aug 92 07:09:56 GMT
Message-Id: <20689@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi,

I tried to use WM_DELETE_WINDOW, hoping to let my program know when a
window is going to be killed. But my code didn't work with twm (Sun,
X11R5), mwm, 4Dwm (SGI/Iris, X11R4).

Here's my code:

	....
	Atom delw;
	....
	delw = XInternAtom(display, "WM_DELETE_WINDOW", False);
	XSetWMProtocols(display, window, &delw, 1);
	....
	/* event-handling loop ... get event in variable ev */
	switch (ev.type) {
	....
	case ClientMessage:
		printf("Got it!\n");
		/* free/destroy everything and close display */
		break;
	....
	}
	....

My program just opened a window, "xprop" showed:

	WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
			window state: Normal
			icon window: 0x0
	WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "Test"
	WM_NAME(STRING) = "Test"
	WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW
	....

Then I selected window menu (mwm) "Quit" or "Exit" -- nothing happened
to that window, and the program still ran happily.

What should I do? I saw some articles on this issue posted some weeks
ago -- could anybody send me copies of those articles, or even better,
a summery?

Thanks a lot.

________________________________________________________________
= Qiang Alex Zhao		   Computer Science Department
  azhao@cs.arizona.edu             University of Arizona
  (602) 621-2759                   Tucson, AZ 85721
From: tjm@ecr.mu.oz.au (Trefor_John MORGAN)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help for thesis
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:27:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:29:13 GMT
Message-Id: <9224419.3450@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.human-factors,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x


I am currently doing a final year thesis (in Elec Eng) on man-machine
interfaces, I was wondering if anyone could mail me information on the
following areas:

        -history of the development of the original Mac system
                (and the apple machine that preceded the Mac
                 but failed in the market.)
        -your opinions on GUI (what makes a good GUI)
        -speech interfaces : current technology, why there isn't a major
                        commercial speech interface.
        -touch screens, pen based interfaces, gesture recognition
        -anything else of interest/importance.

   Any help would be greatly appreciated,

        Trefor John Morgan.
}:-)