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From: josemj1@aplmail.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Smith Chart
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:08:27 GMT
Followup-To: sci.electronics
Distribution: usa
Organization: JHU-Applied Physics Laboratory

In article <schumach.718567325@convex.convex.com>,
  schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) wrote:

> Presumably this was produced under license from the
> patent and copyright holder? I doubt it.

Your doubt is correct. The Smith chart program I wrote for PostScript
printers is a shameless rip-off of the 1966 version of Phillip Smith's
impedance chart, for which the Kay Electric Co. was licensed to publish.
The header clearly declares its reproduction without permission.

> Don't cheat the inventor and his heirs. Go out and
> buy a licensed copy. The patent rights and royalties 
> you protect may be your own.

Well, this IS an interesting point of view. I agree with you in principle;
there is too much thievery of intellectual property going on today. I, too,
sought to purchase and employ the "real thing", but was stopped by a
phenomenon which is fairly recent: nobody with money buys Smith Charts,
rather they buy $10K microwave modeling software packages.

Now, I had hoped to purchase some charts from Kay Electric, but I was
unable to find a listing for them in the latest Microwaves & RF Buyer's
Guide.  I also found that no one else was selling these charts, for the
reason that NO ONE IS BUYING THESE CHARTS (except perhaps students, but
they couldn't possibly represent a serious market share).

I consulted the ARRL's book service, and found them generously selling a
degenerated copy of the chart (nowhere near as useful as Kay's) for about
$1.00/sheet.

So, being the resourceful student I was (*ironic smirk*), I wrote a
PostScript program to draw the Chart for use in my classes. When I
convinced myself of its fidelity to the original, I prepended a "public
domain only" disclaimer to it and uploaded it to simtel20.wsmr.army.mil,
where is still resides in <MISC.HAMRADIO>.

I've never told anyone this because it never came up and I didn't want
to decrease the SNR on sci.electronics and rec.radio.amateur.misc.

Are Smith's heirs being cheated by my PostScript program? I doubt it.

Are they being cheated by the countless software companies in whose
software the chart (specifically the insightful bilinear transform it
represents) is an absolutely essential part? Probably.

I don't care, and won't until I hear from the Smith estate's lawyers.

Marshall Jose
josemj1@aplmail.jhuapl.edu
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Safety of auto battery for power?
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:38:53 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'

In article <mac.718291408@depot.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> mac@cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) writes:
>
>Since the typical non-deep-cycle battery probably costs ~$35,
>I consider a factor of "2" to be considerable "extra cost"!

$35?? This may be true in Kansas for all I know, but here, ordinary
auto batteries sell in a $40 - 80 range.  At a Price Club, Costco,
etc., you're looking at $35 - 60.  The $69.95 Delco "Voyager" is a 105
(or maybe 115) A-H maintenance free battery; it is very nice as
batteries go.  The $40 "typical car battery" at K-Mart will be a short
warranty, conventional type suited for a 4 cylinder car.  

The Delco "Voyager" is a very well behaved, high capacity deep
discharge battery suitable for indoor use (IMHO - I'm using several
that way). The best part is that it doesn't slobber all over itself;
it's as neat as a Gel-Cell for half the cost.  
-- 
KUFX |      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV     
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
FM   |          H                             | ----------   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  **************
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:51:15 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1962@shaman.wv.tek.com> andrew@frip.wv.tek.com writes:
>Jon Gefaell is poorly informed on consumer law:


	[a ad lib romp of a paraphrase cleverly(?) disguised as a quote]

>
>  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
>                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)

I might have to agree to disagree with you Andy, since I can't substantiate
my claim. I've never been burnt, perhaps that says something for the practical
results of my purchasing habits. (hint: I buy a lot of toys)


What really irks me is the phone quote... Interesting bit of doublespeak
(literaly) as you redundantly and superficialy re-enact my words in the
quise of a quote.

Are you a political analyst or advisor or something? You should consider
a carreer in politics

73 OM
From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Marquette University ARC
Date: 10 Oct 1992 18:50:20 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Originator: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

By default, I have become the president of RAMS (Radio AmateurS of Marquette).
The organization (W9ODD) has been strong in the past but now there are two
members and an advisor.  We have an operating repeater (147.21+ for locals) and
such.  The problem is:  We cannot find members!  I would like help from folks
on good ways of finding people.  Also, I will be making a poster for a meeting;
can anyone suggest catchy things to get people interested?

Thanks...

73 de N9LEA  President, RAMS (W9ODD) Marquette U., Milwaukee
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for heavy-duty Az-El rotors
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:00:04 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

<wHD8RB1w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org>
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords: 

In article <wHD8RB1w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org> rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
writes:
>rlong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald K Long) writes:
>
>> 
>> Well I am addressing the net let me say that a motor has
>> a rotor; so does a capacitor but an antenna is turned by
>> a rotator. A common error which I made for years until
>> someone pointed it out to me.
>> 
>
>Then why are they called rotors in catalogs?
>
>
>--
Well, maybe for the same reason that people who work in media and
report on events are called *commentators*??  Is commentate a word?
I have just always used rotator for antennas and rotors for motors and
capacitors.  73, Tom WB4IUX


--
From: CELLIS%BROCK1P.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Carlton Ellis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alinco and 800 mhz
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:37:50 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Don't know about a 570 but on my Alinco DR-110, after making the
"cut the yellow wire" mod, the following steps connect the 860 Mhz
receiver board and the antenna and the spaker (lets you hear what you
can't hear)  A.  Put radio in VFO mode (not memory)  B. Press and
release the FP (far left hand) button.  C. Press and release the
Mhz button.  Display now reads in 340 Mhz range.  repeat steps
B and C. The 860 to 880 mhz rx board is now active.  Another cycle of
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From:     Carlton Ellis   <CELLIS@BROCK1P>
Subject:  Alinco and 800 mhz
To:       <info-hams@ucsd.edu>

Don't know about a 570 but on my Alinco DR-110, after making the
"cut the yellow wire" mod, the following steps connect the 860 Mhz
receiver board and the antenna and the spaker (lets you hear what you
can't hear)  A.  Put radio in VFO mode (not memory)  B. Press and
release the FP (far left hand) button.  C. Press and release the
Mhz button.  Display now reads in 340 Mhz range.  repeat steps
B and C. The 860 to 880 mhz rx board is now active.  Another cycle of
B and C will return your VFO to the 144 Mhz band.  The memories have been
unaffected - I load the two meter repeaters into the memories and leave
the VFO in the 860 Mhz range.  Remember at those freqs 860 Mhz rf really
gets lost in 50 feet of RG-58 - a small wire stuck in the antenna
connector tends to be best.  Enjoy but don't let Big Brother know
you are listening or that the radio is even capable of said activity.
--------------------- anonymous ----------
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:39:42 GMT

In article <ceqesB2w165w@halcyon.com> puma <puma@halcyon.com> writes:
>ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>> In article <+!jp7bp@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>> >I can understand your viewpoint since you lack the ability to distinguish
>> >between Matsushita which is Panasonic's parent and Matshita which is
>> 
>> And you evidently lack the ability, or courtesy, to use the word '(sic)'
>> when appropriate.  I guess most people thought you were being as careless
>> with your spelling as you evidently are with your purchasing.
>

For what it's worth, all two of the different Panasonic disk drives
I have worked with identify themselves as MATSHITA (sic) in the
8-character _Vendor Identification_ field of the SCSI Inquiry Data message.

The Matsushita publication "SCSI Interface Specification" for the drive
confirms this 8-character word.

        carl lowenstein         marine physical lab     u.c. san diego
        {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl                 cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu
                                                  clowenstein@ucsd.edu
--
From: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (sorgatz)
Subject: strange digital signals
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:23:44 GMT



 Ok, I did RTFM and came up empty on this question. I'll gladly accept
whatever assistance anyone can offer. On the HF bands, particularly in
the 2-18MHz range, there seems to be a very large number of digital
signals that *sound* like Baudot RTTY, BUT - they are not! My PK232
MBX (newest roms) using the SIAM mode claims these are 'unknown mode',
most always at 75 or 100 baud, and interestingly enough, the ones that
are at 100 baud *seem* to exhibit behavior similar to AMTOR, but never
show a trace of clear text. So, the questions are:

1) What are these signals? Marine-Sitor? Telex-RTTY? Something else? 

2) Is there a chance to decode them using the PK232MBX? (I did try the
   BITENV command up to the $1f limit at various baud rates and in the
   various codes, no luck. I have not yet tried the 5-bit gambit, 6-bit
   didnt work either.)

3) What commercial equipment is used to transmit and receive these types
   of traffic?  


 post it here, or email it to me and thanks for any help, 73!

 Erik KB6LUY


-Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY           +-------------------------+
TTI(sorgatz@soldev.tti.com)                       *   Think Eco, not EGO!   *
3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA  90405     +-------------------------+
(OPINIONS EXPRESSED DO NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF CITICORP OR ITS MANAGEMENT!)
From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Plans to build transceivers.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 07:24:58 CDT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

> In article <uuVDsB2w164w@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org> stevej@pillock.moron.vwa
> >gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
> >
> >> In article <91913@netnews.upenn.edu> yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Ye
> >> >
> >> >I would like to build a rig which good to great RF performance.  I
> >> >have very little interest in memories and all the latest bells and
> >> >whistles.
> >> 
> >> Well first you find a pair of 6146s.......
> >
> >...then you build a matching network....
> 
> ....and a 6CL6 driver stage....

....then you build an analog VFO....

Steve KA0VYB
From: w1gd@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (gerald.j.kersus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Jamboree on the Air
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:57:15 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

N2HYG and I are going to be operating JOTA on Saturday, October 17th
from Allaire State Park in Wall, NJ.  We will be with Troop 163 from 
Brick and Cub Scout Packs 163 from Brick and 333 from Wall.  I hope to 
have my station on from 1 pm to 9:30 pm.  This is the third year I've
operated with this group and it's really fun.  There will be around 40 
scouts and 10-20 adults.  It's a great chance to show off ham radio.
Because of the length of time we want to be on the air, I really need
some help.  I'm looking for a few operators to come over and spend an
hour or so.  Duties will be mainly to make sure the scouts follow FCC 
rules, don't destroy my equipment (:-))and answer their questions.  This 
is really a great  group of guys -  really enthusiastic and well behaved.
Please consider coming down and helping.  I can be reached at 908-681-9124
(Home) and 908-949-9511 (Work) or at hogpa!gjk.

Tnx.

Gerry Kersus, W1GD
From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Archie Comix (was Marquette University ARC)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 11:50:43 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>I believe that ARRL Member Services (225 Main St., Newington CT 06111)
>can help you with promotional ideas, although some of the stuff they have
>may be aimed at an (ahem) older crowd. (Of course, they have the Archie
>comic books, too.) Good luck!
> Miles Abernathy, N5KOB

I don't know, Miles.... I thought the Archie books were picked because they 
were for an older crowd too.  It's unfortunate the ARRL guys can't lock into a
set of promotional hooks so they have material that works across the 
demographic spectrum - not just the guys w/o teef.

I still want Ren & Stimpy radio PSAs....even tho there seems to be a snag 
between Spumco, Kricfalusi, and Nickelodeon...<sigh - obviously the people 
involved can't say "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" with only 4 new episodes in 
a year...they probably can't even say "Tiny Toons Adventures"...>

Can see John DeLancie being used:  "As the being 'Q" on Star Trek, The Next 
Generation, I can visit other lands with a mere thought.  But you humans can 
do it almost as easily through the miracle of amateur radio...".

Maccauley Caulkin (the "Home Alone" kid, don't know if the spelling's right):
"If every one in my family were amateur radio operators, they might have a 
harder time leaving me behind. .."

Maybe the next time Stan Freburg (and son??) make a encyclopedia commercial 
the kid would look up something on radio...?

And of course, there's all those 49 MHz toys sold (even with code keys on them
and morse code printed right on the unit) but not even a postcard to attempt 
to get a link going.  in a couple more years these should all mutate to toy 
cell phones and we'll have lost that angle...

[anyone for an OS/2 based morse trainer?  it would be neat to have one, and 
-no- i don't believe i'm skilled enough to be the one to write it...]

bill wb9ivr%pubs%genav.mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com
From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 6 meter HT would be nice
Date: 16 Oct 1992 20:32:33 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com

I'd expect that with the 2M rigs out and No-Code tech licenses (neither of
which existed when Radio Snack brought out the 10M rig) these aren't as hot
movers as they used to be, since a codefree tech can't use it, and it ain't
as convenient has the HT.

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: No, I won't be starting an auto-canceller
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:43:14 GMT

In <1992Oct14.185843.19021@pixar.com> bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:
>The vote was strongly against auto-cancelling those two users.
>
>It would have been interesting if I'd gotten a majority vote to cancel
>them: with a majority vote I probably could have gotten away with it, and
>it would have changed Usenet policy.

I doubt it. More likely, it would have resulted in a anarchistic
response, such as you being mailbombed.

BTW, setting the Newsgroups: line to "MAIL ONLY" doesn't do much except
annoy people. Perhaps you ought to figure out how to actually _use_
Usenet properly before thinking about changing Usenet policy.


Ciaran.
-- 
---- Ciaran McHale (cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie)
\bi/ Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
 \/  Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-6772204
From: bagdy@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Mark Bagdy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:40:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:

    jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
    >This is a fraud alert.  The following letter was FAXed and certified mailed
    >to MAX systems AKA "Mr. CD" on Friday, October 2nd.  As a result of my 
    *----


    This really surprises me, since I've bought from him a few times.
    I've never had a problem with the merchandise, and prices were
    very good.  I have considered mail-order from him (but he's been
    at enough hamfests this season that I haven't needed to).


Wondering...  Doesn't a posting like this, prior to knowing *fully* the
reasons, circumstances, etc. open one up to a libel suit?  What if the
owner reads notes, too?  What if he documents that a drastic decrease in
business was caused by a negative posting... etc. etc.

Any thoughts?  
MRB
From: ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Do ARRL Read Their Email ?
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:57:57 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, lhurder@arrl.org (Luck Hurder KY1T) writes:

>Rolfe Tessem (sp? - sorry if I botched it, Rolfe...) states
>that he has never gotten a response to comments that he
>has submitted to ARRL via their MCI account.

>I understand this.  And I can fix it.

>Rest deleted.

Luck,

Perhaps one suggestion would be for us to always send an acknowledgment,
letting the member know it got here, and informing the sender to whom
it was sent. If it is a director, or perhaps someone on staff, at least
the correspondent would know that it hadn't dropped off the edge. Perhaps
what went unsaid here is that the MCI mailbox is "opened" by a secretary,
who sends the correspondence on to the appropriate committee, Director or
staff. Often, the recipient (especially those who are not on our internal
network) may take the printed message as informational only, assuming that
a response has been taken care of by someone else with direct access to the
writing member. 

I will also take the time to point out that members should *always* include
their postal address in all electronic correspondence to ARRL HQ. We often
need to send non-electronic material, or may need to forward your request
to someone who doesn't have email access. This will help ensure that
you get an answer, even a slow-mail one. I bet some of the non-answers to
MCImail sent to 2155052@mcimail.com were caused when the ultimate recipient
could not respond to the email address. A fair number of MCImail account
holders also do not know how to send mail to an Internet address, so that
may explain some of the problems, too.


>But sending commentary to unstated persons at ARRL HQ, in the
>hope that we might be able to determine what your question is,
>might easily lead to the same types of experience that Rolfe
>has had to endure.  And THAT we want to fix!

I agree that this is a problem that should be fixed. I am sure that Luck
has the situation well in hand.

73 from ARRL HQ, Ed.


-----
Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT  06111            There is no limit to what you can 
(203) 666-1541 - voice          accomplish if you don't care who
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      gets the credit. - Harry S Truman
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing  
-----
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: W5YI report..
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:03:49 GMT

Just like real life, are the ham bands.  Being able to do 5 WPM gives HF
privileges.  10 meters can be a lot of fun, as can 15, 40, and 80 meter CW.
BUT the point behind incentive licensing is that if you want more, you have
to work for it.  No, I can't say that a higher-class license makes one ham 
better than another, because it's not true.

What I CAN say is that if I want to work on the little section of the 20
meter phone band allocated to Extras only, because they're not very heavily
used, and I want to work some DX in the clear, I will WORK to get that 
privilege.  That's just the point - it's a PRIVILEGE, not a right.

If you are happy with your privileges granted by your license, great!  If
you find that you would like to build and launch your own satellite, you
should have to work for that privilege.

Incentive licensing, especially the code part, show how much dedication and
desire one has to upgrade and receive a greater set of privileges.  The
no-code license has been a great thing for Ham Radio.  But anyone can 
memorize the answers to written tests, given enough time and a standard
question pool.  It doesn't take a law degree to be a good litigator or
prosecutor.  It doesn't take an engineering degree to be able to design
stuff. It just means that you have put in the time and effort to earn 
a certain status, for which one can command respect.  That's why incentive
licensing exists.  If you want more, you have to work more.