HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: newznet@comp.vuw.ac.nz (NewZnet Support Group)
Subject: New site added to the DNS
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.0
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:04:21 GMT


The following organization is being added to the DNS and will be
accessible for email from other connected sites in NZ and elsewhere:

	Ministry of Housing, Wellington

The domain name will be:

	minhousing.govt.nz

If you have problems contacting users at this site, please contact:

	<postmaster@minhousing.govt.nz>
From: joe@jsnode.equinox.gen.nz (Joseph Skinner)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: usenet to fidonet mail - how do you do it?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 19:34:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Me? Organized?

I'm interested in finding out how you send mail from usenet to fidonet
within NZ. I know that you can do it using the fidonet.org gate but
that seems to be a bit of a waste since it goes via the states. Is
there a NZ gate for this and if so how do you go about accessing it.

Many thanks.
Joe.

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Joseph Skinner                         | The return of the lost signiture  
usenet: joe@jsnode.equinox.gen.nz      | If at first you don't succeed, 
Invercargill, New Zealand              | you're doing about average.    
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney ))
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:40:28 GMT


In article <jbickers.0ecl@templar.actrix.gen.nz>, jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
|>     Perhaps instead of posting crap here, the original poster could
                                  ^^^^
    Ooohhh, thats not very nice I don't like four letter words.

|>     spend their time more productively by writing supportive letters
|>     to the people in the US that he's concerned about?

    Who says I don't write letters, make phone calls etc...  why are there
always people that tell others to not post their messages just because *they*
think it is inappropriate?  Maybe you are just scared of your own feelings
on the subject?  You sound like you need to vent your frustrations... I
hope you don't get violent if we ever meet!  :-)


Mark.
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: newznet@comp.vuw.ac.nz (NewZnet Support Group)
Subject: New site added to the DNS
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.0
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:33:21 GMT


The following organization is being added to the DNS and will be
accessible for email from other connected sites in NZ and elsewhere:

	JJ Consulting, Auckland

The domain name will be:

	jj.co.nz

If you have problems contacting users at this site, please contact:

	<postmaster@jj.co.nz>



Newsgroups: nz.soc.green
From: amc@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.arts
Subject: John Reynolds
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:59:25 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Has anyone heard of John Reynolds? His art exhibition in Hamilton, 
entitled Ritual Flowers was disappointing as the symbolism was not
apparent.

Boo.
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: ICL PC
From: Colin.Burrow@p0.f140.n772.z3.fido.nacjack.gen.nz (Colin Burrow)
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:03:28 GMT
Organization: Infoboard BBS - Auckland - (09) 833-8788 - 

Is there anybody out there who uses, used to use,
or know of anybody who uses/used an ICL Personal
Computer, Catalogue Serial No 8121/03 (disk drives
and CPU) and Catalogue Serial No 6402/00 (monitor)?

This is not IBM-PC compatible, and ICL no longer
support it.

If you have software for it, I have a buyer depending
on type of software and the price.

Thanks.


Newsgroups: nz.wanted,nz.general,vuw.general
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Subject: 5 gallon glass carboy
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.0
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:36:29 GMT


In my continuing quest for more, I now need to get a couple of 5
gallon glass carboys.  I've seen them in Wellington for around $75 and
would appreciate any information about cheaper sources.

thanks,
andy
From: johnmcl@macell.amigans.gen.nz (johnmcl)
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Wanted A3 Plotter
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:34:49 GMT
Organization: Macell Electrics

To: system
Subject: Incorrect reply or posting

> Macell Plotter
>
> If any body know if there is a second hand plotter
> for sale to take up to A3 paper with muti colour
> pens please advise
>
> Details required :  Make,model,age and cost etc.
>
> Thanks for any information
>

  Thanks
  John Mclennan 

       
         John Mclennan                   We work inside       
         MacELL Maintenance (Electrical) Prisons so we can    
         P O Box 7176                    arrange inside Jobs  
         Wanganui                                             
       
         Telephone (06) 3454183   Cellphone (025) 430430       
       
Xref: sparky nz.wanted:102 junk:33354
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.wanted,junk
Subject: Public Notice
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:09:50 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:09:23
30-Aug-1992

                       DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT
                         CONTRACT 2/460

Mairangi Road Sanitary and Stormwater Relay:

The relay of 48m of 150mm diameter sanitary sewer pipeline, 59m 
of 375mm diameter and 15m of 450mm diameter RCRRJ stormwater 
pipeline.  Also the construction of 9 manholes, 1 lamphole and 
ancillary works.

Tenders must be received by 12 noon on Wednesday, 9 September 
1992.

Documents are availible from the Receptionist, 5th Floor, Anvil 
House, 138 Wakefield Street, Wellington.

Tenders close with Cityworks Division and must be returned to the 
Tenders Box, 5th Floor, C.A.B., 101 Wakefeild Street, Wellington.

                       ROADING DEPARTMENT
                        CONTRACT NO.2/747

Carriageway Slurry Sealing Contract:

Tenders are invited for the above Contract which consists of 
approximately 7500m2 of Slurry Sealing of various carriageways in 
Wellington City.

Documents are availible from the Receptionist 5th Floor, Civic 
Administration Building, 101 Wakefeild Street, Wellington.

Tenders close with the Administration Officer, Cityworks Division 
and must be returned to the Tenders Box, 5th floor, Civic 
Administration Building, 101 Wakefield St, or by post to PO Box 
2199 Wellington and must be recieved by 12 noon on 16 Sptember 
1992.

The Lowest or any tender not necessarily accepted.

                       ROADING DEPARTMENT
                         CONTRACT 2/748

Rejuvenation of Existing Footpaths in Wellington City by Slurry 
Sealing:

Tenders are invited for the above contract which consists of 
approximately 80,000m2 of cationic slurry sealing of various 
footpaths in Wellington City.

Tenders must be recieved by 12 noon on Wednesday, 16 September 
1992.

Documents are available from Reception, 5th Floor, Civic 
Administration Building (C.A.B.), 101 Wakefeild Street, 
Wellington.

Tenders close with Cityworks Division and must be returned to the 
Tenders Box, 5th Floor, C.A.B., 101 Wakefeaild Street, 
Wellington.


--
rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Help with a Phone Please
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:20:03 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand



Does anyone out there have an old-style dial phone that they want to sell or
give to me?  It would be best if you live in or near Christchurch, although I
could pay to have it shipped from another part of the country. 

Alternatively, I have a new push button phone of my own as well as a disused
new-style phone socket.   Does anyone know how to wire this up to one of the
two old-style phone sockets that we already have in our house?   The old style
phone sockets have four wires in them, and from memory, they are coloured
white, green, blue, and red.   My new style phone socket has six pins labelled
1 to 6.   It also has what I think is a capacitor in it as well as a number of
other components, which I am told makes it a master socket.   Would it need to
be modified in any way?

I want to do all of this wiring in such a way as to avoid dispuption to the two
old-style dial phones that are currently wired up to the two old-style sockets.

Thanks to anyone who can help me on any of this.

Andrew Hoy
Political Science Dept
University of Canterbury
From: spt@waikato.ac.nz (Simon Travaglia)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Help with Phone Please!!!!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:43:19 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato Computer Centre

In article <1992Sep2.182531.625@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
> 

Phones:
	Here's the rough idea:

	You get TWO wires into your house, which get split into whatever the
	phones need.  The older style decadic phones do most of the connection
	stuff inside the box on the wall.
	
	For the newer style DTMF (tone) phones, the white box should be wired
	up like so:

			     Connection Point 2
			     |
	R===============o    o---
	  Wires In:            The nice Telecom Box
	A===============o    o---
			     |
			     Connection point 5

			     o--- Connection point 3 (Not used yet)

	And that's essentially it.   The box concerned should be a "master"
	box, which is identified either by the word "MASTER" stamped on the
	box it came in, or by the fact that it has about three components on
	the pcboard that the socket is mounted on.  (It can be converted to
	a slave box by clipping off the components.)

	Now, while we're at it, to wire up a SLAVE box, you open up the master
	box, connect wires to points 2, 3 and 5 and take them to the slave
	box, and connect them to points 2, 3 and 5 there.  (The SAME ones
	as they came from)

	To simplify things my Telecom paper says:

		Point Number		Colour
			2		Red
			3		Blue
			5		White

	Which leaves point 4 free.  Now some phones used to be able to
	recall using this point, but I've never bothered with it.
	


              /\                                                             
   /\    /\/\/  \/\/\      /\  /\/\        /\                /\            /\  
__/  \/\/            \/\/\/  \/    \/\/\/\/  \  /\/\/\/\/\/\/  \/\      /\/  \ 
A 117 part secret message from Simon Travaglia\/spt@waikato.ac.nz \/\/\/
  /\          /\University of Waikato, Private Bag, Hamilton, New Zealand
\/  \    /\/\/  \/\/\      /\  /\/\Ph: 064-7-838-4008/\  /\  /\    /\      /\ 
     \/\/            \/\/\/  \/    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/  \/  \/  \/\/  \/\/\/  \ 
All men are created unequal.
Newsgroups: nz.comp,nz.general,wgtn.chat,wcc.citynet
From: wratt_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Subject: Re: Gopher Client Available
Reply-To: wratt_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 11:35:36 GMT

In article <u435PB1w164w@tosh.wcc.govt.nz>, rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) writes:
>13:24:37
>27-Aug-1992
>
>WCC City Net now carries a Gopher client in the Network Services
>use it to make WCC information available via this system.

I experimented a little with Gopher yesterday. I found it quite easy to use
once I got the hang of things. There are some quite interesting and useful
things there. For example the World Fact Book (or similar name) which has
reasonably up to date information (c. 1991) which I have previously found
difficult to track down from home. Also the US State Department travel
advisories are rather fascinating - If you believe them there can be few
countries which are totally safe for Americans!  I even managed to find the
phone number for someone I new at the University of Illionois out of one of the
Gofer phone directories.

I think Gopher would be a useful permanent addition to Citynet.

David Wratt.

(PS: This is the first time I have tried to reply to a newsgroup message. Hope
it has worked - It has taken me a while to get the hang of the editor)
From: tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz (Tony Christie)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: AMOS and CanDo PD
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:14:27 GMT+12
Distribution: NZ
Organization: The Gnomes Home

Is there a repository in NZ for AMOS and/or CanDo PD ? Or a email list server ?
If not, is anyone interested ? If not, why not ?

--
 Tony Christie, Wanganui N.Z. //"Don't be so open minded that your brains
 tonyc@gnome.amigans.gen.nz \X/ fall out of your head" Barry Shein (s.c.usa)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Help with Phone Please!!!!!
From: graeme@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz ( Graeme Moffat)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:51:35 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

spt@waikato.ac.nz (Simon Travaglia) writes:

>	You get TWO wires into your house, which get split into whatever the
>	phones need.  The older style decadic phones do most of the connection
>	stuff inside the box on the wall.
>	
>	For the newer style DTMF (tone) phones, the white box should be wired
>	up like so:

>			2		Red
>			5		White
                                        ^^^^ These are the 'line' 

Sounds like you have a 'jack-point' system with presumably either one
permanently-wired phone or a fixed bell-set. If it is properly wired, the
line connections should be green & white.  Red is a parallel 'capacitor'
circuit & blue is a series 'bell' circuit which is connected to green at the
end jackpoint.  This is different from a single phone connection, which uses
red & white for the line, as above (don't ask why :-).
From memory, the line connections are the outermost two on the jackpoint.
Don't use a master socket, just connect the new phone to the old 'line'.
(Unless a modern-type telecom techo says otherwise, I believe this would add
capacitance where it's not needed, the present setup is already wired to
provide the correct amount)
PS. The jackpoint phones have their capacitors disconnected, except for one
(either the fixed phone or the bellset), hence the red wire which 'shares'
it around all the others. Modern phones don't have any, so the master socket
provides it instead.

-- 
Graeme Moffat                g.moffat@aukuni.ac.nz \ Time wastes us all, 
Computer Aided Design Centre,  Fax: +64-9-366-0702 /  our bodies & our wits
School of Engineering,    Ph: +64-9-737-999 x8384 /  But we waste time,
University of Auckland, Private Bag, Auckland, NZ \   so time & we are quits
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Digital Tiger II PC Press Release
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:14:43 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I read a description of the reasoning behind upgradeable CPUs in PC Magazine
a few months ago. Their conclusion was, it made sense if you were planning
to do a CPU swap within a few months of buying the machine.

Otherwise the benefit was questionable: if you decided to upgrade the CPU
a year or two down the track, you'd still be stuck with a video system,
disk controller and so on that were old technology.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
Government Logician's warning: Smoking shortens your cigarettes.
From: mark@garden.equinox.gen.nz (Mark Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: UuEncoding
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:29:29 +1200
Organization: Not an Organization
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Michael Cree (cree@elec.canterbury.ac.nz) wrote:
>Kerry Emerson (batman@amigans.gen.nz) wrote:
>: Greetings.
>: How does one `Uuencode' a file to be sent over e-mail?
>: I type as follows,
>: 
>:         UUEncode <FilesToBeEncoded> <FileToBeSavedAs>
>: 
>: This displays the encoded file-stuff to the screen, but doesn't save it to
>: the <FileToBeSavedAs> file.
>
>UUencode traditionally feds the encoded file to standard output which
>is normally your console. However, you can redirect it, so try
>
>
>UUEncode <file> > <encodedfile>
>
>                ^
>Note that the right arrow is indeed literally a right arrow.
>
>The above will work on Unix, MS-DOG, and AmigaDOS machines.

This is the third reply I've read and no-one's got it right yet! (OK - one
method stated would have worked, but this one won't.

UUEncode needs an output file name which ONLY gets used in the first line
(begin 777 filename). UUEncode sends its output to stdout ALWAYS. UUEncode
will probably read from stdin so the following (mentioned in someone elses
post) may work:

UUEncode <inputfile >outputfile CallItThisWhenDecoding

but I always use this:

UUEncode >outputfile inputfile CallItThisWhenDecoding

(actually I normally stick the '>' at the end of the line, but then I use
CSH).

Hope this clears some things up and doesn't just add more confusion...

--
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
       mark@garden.equinox.gen.nz         A garden is a thing of beauty
 || tomlinson@elec.canterbury.ac.nz             and a job forever.
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: pols051@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Help with Phone Please!!!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:25:31 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


This is not exactly anything to do with computers.   Instead, it is vaguely 
related to the broad subject of electronics, and I thought that someone who
reads this bulletin board might be able to help me:


Does anyone out there have an old-style dial phone that they want to sell or
give to me?  It would be best if you live in or near Christchurch, although I
could pay to have it shipped from another part of the country. 

Alternatively, I have a new push button phone of my own as well as a disused
new-style phone socket.   Does anyone know how to wire this up to one of the
two old-style phone sockets that we already have in our house?   The old style
phone sockets have four wires in them, and from memory, they are coloured
white, green, blue, and red.   My new style phone socket has six pins labelled
1 to 6.   It also has what I think is a capacitor in it as well as a number of
other components, which I am told makes it a master socket.   Would it need to
be modified in any way?

I want to do all of this wiring in such a way as to avoid dispuption to the two
old-style dial phones that are currently wired up to the two old-style sockets.

Thanks to anyone who can help me on any of this.

Andrew Hoy
Political Science Dept
University of Canterbury
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: UuEncoding
From: cree@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Cree)
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:44:51 +1200
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Kerry Emerson (batman@amigans.gen.nz) wrote:
: Greetings.
: How does one `Uuencode' a file to be sent over e-mail?
: I type as follows,
: 
:         UUEncode <FilesToBeEncoded> <FileToBeSavedAs>
: 
: This displays the encoded file-stuff to the screen, but doesn't save it to
: the <FileToBeSavedAs> file.

UUencode traditionally feds the encoded file to standard output which
is normally your console. However, you can redirect it, so try


UUEncode <file> > <encodedfile>

                ^
Note that the right arrow is indeed literally a right arrow.

The above will work on Unix, MS-DOG, and AmigaDOS machines.

:                 Kerry Emerson.  UUCP: Batman@amigans.gen.nz

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Michael Cree                              Gold there is
cree@elec.canterbury.ac.nz                 and rubies in abundance;
                                          But lips that speak knowledge
                                           are a rare jewel. (Prov 20:15)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jhaar@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Canterbury Down
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:36:25 +1200
Reply-To: j.haar@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


As you have probably heard, we are having quite a time in the snow down here in
Christchurch. 

Unfortunately, we are also having sporadic power problems... it looks like we
won't be  able to get our servers up reliably today, so connectivity to the
Canterbury region will be down until it isn't  ;-)

As you can see, our WAN connectivity is still OK (I telnet'ted to Waikato to
post this) - the cisco is a bit more robust than the servers.

Cheers

Jason Haar, Network Consultant
From: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: UuEncoding
Followup-To: nz.comp
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:13:24 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

In article <1733PB1w164w@amigans.gen.nz> batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson) writes:
> 
> Greetings.
> How does one `Uuencode' a file to be sent over e-mail?
> I type as follows,
> 
>         UUEncode <FilesToBeEncoded> <FileToBeSavedAs>
> 

According to my UUCP 1.16 docs, the syntax is:

   uuencode <infilename >outfilename filename
   
EG:  UUENCODE <MySourceFile >EncodedFile CallItThisWhenDecoded

> This displays the encoded file-stuff to the screen, but doesn't save it to
> the <FileToBeSavedAs> file.

This implies that you must specify the output redirection for the uuencode _YOU_
have.

>                 Kerry Emerson.  UUCP: Batman@amigans.gen.nz
> Silent Imperium: +64 06 3471763 2400bps (8pm - 8am).  User: `Darknight Si'
>      Home:  19B Somerset Road, Wanganui, New Zealand. +64 06 3446499.
> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> |   DISCLAIMER: My employer doesn't give a damn what I write, so there!  |
> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Cheers

    Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand     3:771/220.5
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Paper for NZ Uniforum 1992
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:40:31 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:37:49
26-Aug-1992

I was scheduled to present a paper on Community Computing at the
Uniforum Conference in New Plymouth, May 1992. Unfortunately, I
did not present the paper due to being held up in the US by
illness.

If anyone who was there (or anyone who is interested) would like
a copy of the paper, please contact me by Email.



--
rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: joe@jsnode (Joseph Skinner)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: how do you use the mark ring in emacs for OS/2
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:30:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Me? Organized?

Could someone tell em how use the mark ring in Gnu emacs for OS/2.
According to the online docs either C-u C-spc or C-u C-@ should cycle
through the mark ring to take you back to a previous mark but non of
these options seem to work (GRRR!).

Any help greatfully accepted
Joe 

===============================================================================
Joseph Skinner                         | The return of the lost signiture  
usenet: joe@jsnode.equinox.gen.nz      | If at first you don't succeed, 
Invercargill, New Zealand              | you're doing about average.    
===============================================================================