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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Kippe dustu, kel gorundu
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 13 Jan 93 14:04:00 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Kaya Leeen...
Bir cirpida mennshuuur mu olmak istiyooon leeen !
Iste sana sasmaz bir proje...seni Salman'dan daha Yalman yapacak bir 
proje:
M.Kemal'in Turk Ulususnu nasil 'Hatti mudafa yoktur, sathi mudafa vardir..'
deyip danalar gibi satihtan satiha yaristirdiktan sonra onlara kulahi 
nasil ters giydirdigini sergilemek icin Ataturk'un 'DIN'i nasil kullandigini 
'grep'inle Nutuk'tan grep et.....ve hemen menshuuur ol !
Garanti...aman acele et, bu once in a life time firsati kacirma...gec 
kalma...bu firsat burada cok beklemez...Tarihe senin Kaya gibi adin 
gececegine baska birinin adinin gecmesini istemezsin degil mi...ornegin 
Huuuuuu Beyi gibi....
Su uyur firsatci uyumaz...
Firsati ganimet bil...
Firsattan istifade et...
Firsat yapmaya calismak gibi abesle istigal etme...
Ayagina gelen firsati tepme..
Firsat bu firsat...
From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Deniz Baykalin Bosna Seferi
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:49:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


Vah zavalli sol! Bu hallerede mi du$ecektin? Benim merak ettigim
Baykal'in soylediklerinde samimi olup olmadigidir. Bugun muslumanlarin
mucadelesi sonucu universitelerde ba$ortusu yava$ yava$ kabul edilmeye
ba$lanirken (bazi kelaynaklarin diretmeleri haric) Baykal icin durum Ok
olabilir belki. Fakat yarin bu musluman hanimlar serbestce inancini
ya$ayarak kamu kurulu$larinda da cali$mak isterlerse Baykal'in tepkisi
ne olur acaba? Mesela bir onerge verilse mecliste bu konuda Baykal ne
der?

Kanaatimca Bosna'ya musluman kadinlarin yazmasini goturmek pek onemli
degil, bu samimiyeti Tr de gostersinler Baykal'in ve yanda$larinin
alinlarindan opeyim.

Yine de Baykal'i kutluyorum bu $artlar altinda oralara gittigi ve bazi
laflari ettigi icin. Diger kelaynaklarimizda bu duruma gelecek yava$
yava$ herhalde.      

Beytullah
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: hujic@ecf.toronto.edu (HUJIC DAMIR)
Subject: Re: News, 3 Jan 93 (fwd)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:23:17 GMT

In article <Jan.5.12.53.16.1993.27381@andromeda.rutgers.edu> pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane) writes:
>deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) writes:
>
>>In article <9301050441.AA27269@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> writes:
>>>Forwarded message:
>>>
>
>>I think it is rather sick that the countries that are not taking in any
>>temporary refugees in any numbers worth speaking of are falling over
>>themselves to help the adoption of babies born in time of war.  
>>As usual, I am impressed with the humanitarian feelings emanating from
>>the US and Western Europe.  
>
>>Adopt your white baby now, while the supplies last...
>

[...] 

>What would YOU suggest: how to take care of these unfortunate
>human beings conceived in hate? Abandon them? Kill them? Keep
>them in orphanages? Make them bear the BRAND of their fathers'
>bestiality all their life? Make new beastly people in some 15-20
>years? What?
>
>Ana M. Shane

Demand for white babies in Europe is high in every country Ana!
If Britain had real humanitarian convictions, they would take in
refugees.  I'm disgusted by their hypocrisy.

Damir 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: mfm0@ellis.uchicago.edu (martin frederic melhus)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac: Auschwitz - The Death Factory
Reply-To: mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:08:04 GMT

In article <2nd> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>In article <1st> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>
>>  The extermination plant with the most advanced design anywhere in the
>>world consisted of two large crematoria/gas chambers and two smaller ones.
>>Crematoria Four and Five were built on the surface of the ground.
>>Crematoria Two and Three had subteranian gas chambers and reception areas.
>>They were about 102 meters long by 51 meters across.  The basement
>
>And consider this one:
>
> Source: "Mitteilungsblatt, Berlin, December 1939, Nr. 2 and 5-6"
>
> Yet another historical fact: a fact that for years has been deliberately 
> forgotten, concealed, and wiped from memory - the fact of Armenian-Nazi 
> collaboration.
>

Looks like more propaganda.  Look, Serdar, this isn't the first time that
the Armenian-Turkish conflict has slipped into these parts.  Every other 
time, the regular residents have given those participants some gentle nudges
back into t.p.m-e, or other pertinent places.  My understanding is that
Alt.revisionism is for discussion of revisionism as it relates to the Nazi
atrocities committed (or purportedly committed, for those on the other side
of the aisle/fence/sanity line) during WWII, particularly with regard to
the concentration camps.  Whether some of these Nazis were Armenian is not
an important issue here.

-- 
                          | You have all the time from when you remove the |
     Martin F. Melhus     | card(s) from your hand until you put it (them) |
 mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu | on the pile to say "Last Card".  If you don't, |
                          | take your two. - Hidden texts, Book of MauMau. |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:38:58 GMT

In article <3711.9301061318@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
>Ona Santa Claus da derler Father Christmas da
>Santa Claus derlerse father christmasi kimler sever
>Father christmas diyerek cocuklara papazi nasil sevdirirler

Cocuklara soylenenle yetiskinlerin kullandigi terminolojiyi bir tutuyorsaniz
benim soyleyebilecegim bir sey yok.

>Lutfen yazmadan once bir sozluge, lugate veya dictionary ye bak (belki
>anla$ilmaz diye hepsini yazdim) ondan sonra karala.

"Sozluk" denince nicin anlasilmasin ki?  Turkce degil mi bu ? 

>Bazi $eylerin dilde degi$ik kelimelerle anlatilabildigini
>biliyorsunuzdur umarim. Mesela ornegin bir misalle orneklendirmeye
>kalksak diye konu$unca mi anla$ilacagiz bilmiyorum.

Aslinda zaten gercekten hakikaten bu isi cozumleyip halledip yoluna
koyup caresine bakabiliriz. Ama sorun problem dert anlayis izan.

-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: MUSLUMAN GELENEKLERI
Keywords: none
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:29:15 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <Jan07.004833.53128@meng.emory.edu> mario@meng.emory.edu writes:
|
|
|Ve ozene bezene,onlardan alinan din'den!
|
|Kaya Guralp yazilarina,islam'in yerel Bedevi din'i oldugunu one surerek
|baslamisti. O zaman'in iman,ahlak ve adalet sistemi, Caginin
|"kaldirabildigi" oranda uygulanmis,col bedevisinin anlayacagi oranda
|aciklanmis,algilayabilecegi orneklerle bezenip ozendirilmis bir butun

Bre hey Zindik sen hala yalayacak baska bir tas bulamadinmi ?
Bak kafana KAYA kadar tas dusecek. KAYA da simdi kendisini bir
halt zannedip bu gece rahat uyuyacak. Herifcioglu zaten kimse 
takmiyor diye kalp krizi gecirecek nerdeyse.....


Hala ilk okul orta okul hayat bilgisi kitabi bile okumamanin
verdigi cehaleti sirtinda tasimaya devammi edeceksin ?

Kolay gelsin

Ercan


|Maestro Can
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:13764 talk.politics.mideast:24620
From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Bir Gece
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:22:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <kandaz-040193110727@129.26.10.159> kandaz@gmd.de (Buelent Kandaz) writes:
|BIR GECE
|
|Ondrt asir evvel, yine byle bir geceydi,
|Kumdan, ayin on drd, bir ksz cikiverdi!
|Lakin, o ne hsrandi ki:Hissetmedi gzler;
|Kac bin senedir, halbuki beklesmedelerdi!
|Nerden grecekler? Gremezlerdi tabii
|Bir kerre, zuhur ettigi cl, en sapa yerdi.
|Bir kerre de, mamure-i dnya, o zamanlar,
|Buhranlar icindeydi, bugnden de beterdi.
|
|Sirtlanlari gecmisti beser yirticilikta;
|Dissiz mi bir insan, onu kardesleri yerdi!
|Fevza btn afakina sarmisti zeminin,
|Salgindi, bugn Sark yikan, tefrika derdi.
|Derken , byms, kirkina galmistiki ksuz,
|Baslarda gezen kanli ayaklar suya erdi!
|Bir nefhada insanligi kutardi O Masum,
|Bir hamlede kayserleri, kisralari serdi!
|Aczin ki, ezilmekti btn hakki, dirildi;
|
|Zlmn ki, zeval aklina gelmezdi, geberdi!
|Alemlere rahmetti, evet, ser+-i mbini,
|Sehbalini, adl isteyenin yurduna gerdi.
|Dnya neye sahipse, O`nun vergisidir hep;
|Medyn O`na cemyetti, medyn O`na ferdi.
|Medyumdur O masum+a btn bir beserriyet..
|Ya Rab, bizi mahserde bu ikrar ile hasret.
|
|Mehmet Akif Ersoy
|

Yukaridaki merhum Mehmet Akif'in $iirini buraya yazdiginiz icin cok
te$ekkurler.

|Bu vesile ile arkadslarin YENI YILINI kutlar, Saglikli ve basarili
|calismalar,
|diler.Hz.MUHAMMED+e ve Islama dil uzatanlarin Afifini Allahtan niyaz
|ederim.
|Kalin saglicakla,
|

Bulent bey, siz onlarin affini dileseniz de onlar Istilahi manada dini
kavrayip Allah ve Rasulune tabii olmadikca ne sizin duaniz kabul
olacaktir ve ne de boyle bir duaya luzum vardir. Egri ve dogru
ayrilmi$tir. Insanlar diledigini secme hakkina sahiptir. Dilerse kafir
olarak ya$ar ve olur dilerse Allah'a layikiyla kul olmaya cali$ir.

Hz. Ibrahim (AS) dahi puta tapan babasi icin Allah tan af dilemekten men
edilmi$tir. Dogru yola giren insan gecmi$te tonlarca gunah i$lemi$ olsa
kalpten (ancak kendisi) yalvarmasiyla yuce Allah in affetmesi beklenir.
Yoksa Allah'in dininde hristiyanlarin tahrif ettigi dinde gorulen, gunah
cikarma, birisinin ba$kasinin gunahini cekmesi diye bir ozellik yoktur.

Muhabbetlerimle
Beytullah

|Blent
|
|Blent Kandaz, GMD - K3T1,  kandaz@gmd.de, (++49 2241) 14-2002
| GMD ( German National Research Center for Computer Science )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.history,talk.politics.soviet,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.greek
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:43:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <17146.9301072202@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
>Bakin Emre bey, size $oyle aciklamaya cali$ayim. Siz birisine hediye
>alirken neleri du$unur alirsiniz bilmem ama ben birisine hediye alirken
>o ki$iyi sevindirmeden ziyade bunun Rasulullah (SAV) efendimizin sunneti
>yani kendisinin hediye verme olayini bizzat ifa etmesi ve te$vikinden
>dolayi ayni zamanda kucuk bir ibadet olarak gorur, boyle
>degerlendiririm. Farki umarim anlatabilmi$imdir. 

Farki anlattiniz. Ama umarim hediye verirken ibadet yaptigi aklina gelmeyenlere 
ve hediyeyi Islam'in bir bulusu saymayanlara da hosgoru gosterirsiniz.

-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:35:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1993Jan04213226.AA18641@me.unda.edu> kg+02@me.unda.edu (Kaya Guralp) writes:
|From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
|Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
|
|*> Peygamberimizin (SAV) tavsiyesi olan hediye verme guzel bir sunnettir.
|*> Ve dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur. Ben $ahsen onlarin
|*> ozellikle kutsal diye kabul ettikleri, Allah a (CC) $irk ko$tuklari bu
|*> gunlerde herhangi bir kimseye hediye vermekten (onlara benzememek icin)
|*> bir musluman olarak haya ederim. Tabi buna kar$i cikan olabilir. Herkes
|*> dilediginde serbesttir.
|*>
|*> Beytullah
|
|Beytullah bey kardesimiz, sevgili peygamberimiz Hz. Muhammed'in
|bir tavsiyesini bize sundu. Ilginctir, o devirde Muhammed hediye
|veren degil, hediye alan tarafmis. Bu hediyelere de sadaka adi 
|verilirmis. Ne dersin Beytullah? Tavsiyeyi yapan o olduguna
|gore, Muhammed de hediye alanlardanmis. 
|
|kaya

Ey Tastan da tas KAYA, Simdi sen Beytullahin dediginden Hz. Muhammedin
hediye alip fakat vermedigini nereden cikardin. AYETleride bu kafayla
okuyorsun iste. Ama bu fikirlerin senin uydurdugun veya arasina
kelimeler kattigin ayetlerin eseridir. Kendini temize cikar
yalanci ve sahtekar olmadigini ispatla artik. Faka uzulme
sen bize lazimsin. Kafirsiz zindiksiz bir ortamda inanmanin
kiymetini anlamak zor. Kendine iyi bak olurmu ?

Ercan
From: basaran@beach.csulb.edu (Mete)
Subject: Re: Parlak Beytullah
Reply-To: basaran@beach.csulb.edu
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:25:05 GMT

In article <9655.9301101822@thor.cf.ac.uk>, spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk 
(Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes...
>Bak ben hic kiziyor muyum Mete'cim? Sen patlican cekirdeginden
>patlicanin ciki$indaki Allah'in varligini gosteren binlerce delili
>akledemeyecek kadar kor isen patlicanin icindeki yaziyi gorsen ne yazar.
> 
>Patlican ile aranda bir ili$ki oldugunu tahmin edebiliyordum zaten. Bunu
>itiraf etmi$ oldun. 
> 
>Ha ha ha. 1333 sinir hucreniz daha telef oldu. Sifiri tuketiyorsun.
> 
>Kimin kimin kar$isinda nasil konu$acagi zamani gelince belli olur. Dag
>daga kavu$maz ammaa insan insana (Rabbim nasip ederse) kavu$ur.
> 
>Beytullah

Yahu ensest Beytullah,sen ne "INCE" esprili adammissin,askolsun!
Bence patlican ile senin anan arasinda bir iliski var,sen itiraf etmis
oldun,bak gordun mu?
Mankafa ERcan'la birlikte tehdit etmeler ha!Ah siz benim karsima
bir ciksaniz,bak ikinizi de birbirinize nasil dugumluyorum,
Rasulullah'iniz gelse acamaz.

MUB
From: mfm0@ellis.uchicago.edu (martin frederic melhus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: LEST WE FORGET: A Holocaust Bibliography
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:12:56 GMT
Reply-To: mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <2nd> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>In article <1st> kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
>
>>I have assembled a Holocaust bibliographic reference file, which is available
>>to anyone and everyone requesting it. It contains over 1000 entries, and will 
>>prove an invaluable tool for anyone interested in learning more about the 
>>horrible events now referred to as the Holocaust.
>
>How can I explain to you about the importance of the scientific experiment
>going on in your backyard?
>

Hold on here?  Am I to understand that Armenia is in Canada's back yard?
I know that there have been a lot of changes in European geography lately, 
but I just don't know about this one.

-- 
                          | You have all the time from when you remove the |
     Martin F. Melhus     | card(s) from your hand until you put it (them) |
 mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu | on the pile to say "Last Card".  If you don't, |
                          | take your two. - Hidden texts, Book of MauMau. |
From: Guven.Guzeldere%STANFORD.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (hq.ggg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Tuva Turkish Concert
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:09:25 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Item: soc.culture.turkish 54789,  11 Jan 19,  46 lines.    (17 items left)
From: celep@aludra.usc.edu (Omer Halid Celepoglu)
Subject: Altaylar'dan ayaginiza Turk kulturu ..





Tuva devletinin bassehri Kizil'dan gelen grubun konser programi ..
---------------------------------------------------------------------



Jan 6           UCSB. Call (805) 893-8411.
Jan 9           3pm-6pm (on-going program)  Bowers Museum, Santa Ana
                Call (714) 567-3679.
Jan 10          Victory Park in Pasadena.  Call (818) 449-6987.
Jan 14          Seattle: U of Washington.  Call (206) 543-9681.
Jan 16          New York City: Washington Square Church,
                135 W 4th St, in Greenwich Village.
                Call (212) 545-7536.
Jan 17          New York City: Uris Auditorium, Met. Museum
                of Art, 5th Ave and 81st St.  Call (212) 545-7536.
Jan 19          Boston: MIT.  Call (617) 253-0621.
Jan 21          Middletown, CT: Wesleyan University.
                Call (203) 347-9411 ext. 2335.
Jan 22          Saratoga Springs, NY: Skidmore College.
                Call (518) 587-6103.
Jan 23          Cambridge, MA: Paine Hall, Harvard University.
                Call (617) 876-4275.
Jan 27-28       Hanover, New Hampshire: Dartmouth College.
                Call (603) 646-1393.
Jan 29          Amhearst College.  Call (603) 646-1393.
Jan 30          Ohio: Oberlin College
                Call (603) 646-1393
Feb 3           UC Santa Cruz. Call (408) 459-2857
Feb 6           1-4 pm.  Asian Art Museum, Golden Gate Park, San Francisco.
                Call (415) 668-8921.
Feb 9           Monterey Institute for International Studies
                Call (408) 647-4154.


For information on "The Friends of Tuva" send a SASE to
Friends of Tuva, Box 70021, Pasadena CA, 91117.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Subject: Re:   Public e-mail access in Ankara/Turkey
Reply-To: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Organization: Stockholm University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:19:23 GMT


|>Robert writes:


|>Dear networkers:
|>
|>
|>In the near future my father is going to work in Ankara. He
|>works in social sciences and uses e-mail to get important
|>information from people all over the world. He would be very
|>glad to have an opportunity to use e-mail also in Ankara.



|>Therefore I have the following questions:
|>
|>1. What is the situation concerning computer networks like
|>   Internet and Bitnet in Turkey?

     + Here's *some* information:
     + The computer-network BITNET exists in Turkey right now...
     + The INTERNET network is soon going to be used in Turkey, especially from
     + Middle East Technical University.

|>2. Is there any possibility for a private person to get an
|>   e-mail access (or even online Internet access) in Ankara via a
|>   dial-up line?
     

     + When INTERNET is going to be used this is possible...
   
  

|>3. What is the address of the Anatolian University in Eskisehir
|>   and the address of the computer science department of the
|>   Middle-East Technical University in Ankara?
						
     + Here are some addresses in BITNET:

   TRAKDEN   Akdeniz Universitesi
   TRANAVM1  Anadolu Universitesi
   TRATAUNI  Ataturk Universitesi
   TRBILUN   Bilkent Universitesi
   TRBOUN    Bogazici Universitesi
   TRCUNIV   Cukurova Universitesi
   TRDEU1    Dokuz Eylul Universitesi
   TRDICLE   Dicle Universitesi
   TREARN    Ege Universitesi
   TRERUN    Erciyes Universitesi
   TRFIRAT   Firat Universitesi
   TRGANTEP  Gaziantep Universitesi
   TRHUN     Hacettepe Universitesi
   TRITU     Istanbul Teknik Universitesi
   TRIUVM11  Istanbul Universitesi
   TRKTU     Karadeniz Teknik Universitesi
   TRMARUNV  Marmara Universitesi
   TRMETU    Orta Dogu Teknik Universitesi
   TROMUNI   Ondokuz Mayis Universitesi
   TRYILDIZ  Yildiz Universitesi
       
    + To give one example: name@TRANAVM1.BITNET
   
    + People that wants to know more can e-mail:
    + YENER@TRMETU.BITNET 
    + Yener Yigit
    + Network Group
    + Computer Center
    + METU, Turkiye.
   
    + I think he'll help...




|>NOTE: As I cannot read this newsgroup (I am posting this via
|>e-mail using a simple trick), please respond directly to my
|>e-mail address.

   + Done...



|>Thank you in advance for your help.
|>
|>
|>Robert Szelepcsenyi
|>
|>-- 
|>Robert Szelepcsenyi                     PHONE:     +42-7-220863
|>A. Mraza 4                              UUCP:      mcsun!uniba!posen!robert
|>82103 Bratislava                        INTERNET:  robert@posen.mff.uniba.cs
|>Czechoslovakia



+Hilmi Eren
+Stockholm University
+Sweden
+INTERNET: Hilmi-er@dsv.su.se
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Subject: Re: Uzun Haberler...
Reply-To: armagan@gvl.paramax.com
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:44:47 GMT

Please convert the Turkish characters (e.g. i without dot) into standard
ASCII characters before you feed the scanned text into USENET.  Otherwise,
the text is not readable on our screen.

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 Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,alt.conspiracy
Subject: the Schiller Institute tail-ending on the Bosnia issue
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:12:29 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:
> GLASGOW (UK), MARCH & RALLY, SATURDAY 9th JANUARY 1993,
> 10.30 ASSEMBLY: BLYTHSWOOD SQUARE [...]
>  SPEAKERS:
>           SEID POROBIC (Bosnian representative)
>           Dr. SABRI RIZA TABRIZI ( University of Edinburgh)
>           JACQUES CHEMANADE (Schiller Institute, Paris)
>           Councillor CHARLES GRAY ( Chairman, Local Government International
>                                     Board)
>           JOHN McFALL ( MP, Shadow Labour Minister, Scottish Home Affairs)
>           Ms LYNNE DEVINE ( Deputy Foreign Affairs Spokesperson for the SNP)
>           ALI SYED ( Scottish Firends of Bosnia)
>  PLEASE SUPPORT BOSNIA
>  PLEASE SUPPORT THE RALLY
>  Turkish Student Association, Glasgow

I'll be there supporting this.  With one rather colossal caveat: the
presence of Chemanade.  The Schiller Institute is a front for the US-based
fascist Larouche organization.  If that bastard gets on the platform I will
do my level best to disrupt his propaganda.  And I won't be alone.

So why am I crossposting this to alt.conspiracy?  Because I'd like some more
up-to-date information about Larouche and the Schiller Institute than I have.
If anyone has stuff on file, please send it to me.

Does somebody have a contact address for the Turkish Student Association in
Glasgow?  I suspect they don't know what the Schiller Institute is: I would
rather see this prat privately dumped than have to resort to public
denunciations of people who I basically support.

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