From: s_perera@iastate.edu (Sunil M Perera)
Subject: Re: Net etiquette (was Re: Joke about intolerance...)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:12:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.202456.4704@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <1k900bINN3e8@falcon.natinst.com> fellow@natinst.com (Osbert Tan)
>writes:
>>In article <1993Jan28.024636.12264@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
>>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>>> Note that I vociferously disagree with Mr. Asano's views, but I respect his
>>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>>> right to air those views.  In no uncertain terms, I condemn the culture and
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> the society that instilled the petty narrow-minded views that Mr. Lee espouses.
>>
>>The FACT that I am a Singaporean Chinese, who subscribe to the idea of freedom
>>of speech and expression, nullifies everything you, Joe, had just posted;
>>according to your own logic and argument (that one REALLY represent all). Now
>
>This is slander.  I _never_ said that  "one REALLY represent all".
>
>Everyone is agreed that cultures should be judged by the people who
>are in them.  I never said that we should judge culture solely on the
>the basis of 1 person.  _However_, we _should_ judge culture on the 
>basis of _people_ who claim to be part of that culture.  For example,
>if we see that 1 Chinese-cu person commits cannabalism, then we should
>adjust our opinion of Chinese-cu culture appropriately; by "appropriately",
>I mean that we should take into account the fact that we encountered only _1_
>person who has done this.
>
>If we know that, say, 2000 Chinese-cu committed cannabalism, then we
>should give _more_ (actually 2000 times more) weight to this fact since
>2000 acted the atrocity.  By the way, there is evidence to indicate that
>thousands of Chinese-cu committed cannabalism in the period of 1966-1976.
>
>>however, if you disagree that one represent all, you certainly agree that
>>Nai Chee Lee, whoever he is, does not represent Singaporean in general,
>>much less Chinese-ge as a race. Either way, you lose. But you will never
>>learn I know.
>
>In fact, I do know.  I am not condemning Chinese-cu culture solely on the
>basis of Mr. Lee's statements.  He is just another data point in a tremendous
>case against Chinese-cu culture.
>
>I stand by my previous statements.  All three nations--Taiwan, China, and
>Singapore--have little respect for freedom of speech, and the common
>denominator is a government dominated by Chinese-cu people.  If they don't
>like _what_ a person says or _how_ she says it, then they will harrass her,
>imprison her, kill her, etc.  Hey!  It's the great Chinese-cu way of life!
>[1]
>
>Furthermore, we have the following two possibilities:
>
>    (1) Manchuria under Chinese-cu rule in 1993
>
>    (2) Manchuria under Japanese-cu rule in 1993
>
>We _know_ the consequence of #1.  Manchuria is currently under Chinese-cu
>rule and has been for 45 years, but just look at what has happened to it.
>Life is horrible.  There is no respect for the values in the Bill of Rights.
>People want to flee to prosperous & democratic Japan or the United States
>of America.
>
>I have evidence to indicate that #2 would have resulted in a wonderfully
>prosperous and fully democratic Manchuria that would be a prefecture of
>Japan.  Now, let us allow the readers of this newsgroup to ponder why
>this is the case.
>
>Hint:  Don't attend Chinese-cu New Year celebrations.  Condemn 
>       Chinese-cu culture.[2]
>
>[1] NOT!
>
>[2] Have a nice day!

    Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.........isn't it SHIOK/STEAM to RELAX n watch
    these 2 go at each other for a change?

    the little tan man