HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: chitoor@dwalin.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Keywords: patent law, US, India
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:01:53 GMT

In article <1if9blINN2di@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>Now that you do indeed agree that the inventors deserve some reward for their
>product, a temporary sole marketing right is seen as one way of letting them 
>get their due. Maybe you have a better solution? And maybe you will also 
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I did suggest a solution which I claimed is better in the first article
I posted on this. Comment after reading that article.

>suggest alternative methods of providing incentives for companies to invent 
>new products without some interloper coming in and making away with the fruits 
>of their research?

This was exactly the points I addressed in that article. 

>
>Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

-Krishna.
Opinions are mine.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: an3814@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re:Samit's Hypocracy
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:05:57 GMT

X-Anon-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan

After my recent postings about the abuse of the anonymous service by an individu
al, several replies have been posted with mixed response.  Some people did not e
ven wait to see the truth from their own eyes and started using bad language against me.
Mr. Chatterjee, on one hand, was saying that such articles can be published by
Mr. Bannerjee, but at the same time mentioning about contacting the legal agencies
to defend Mr. Bannerjee.  Isn't that interesting!!  If you believe that you are innocent
then you dont have to contact any legal agencies (especially, when it can easily be
proved, by tracing back, who posted those articles).  Anyway, here is the article posted
by Mr. Samit Bannerjee by using the annonymous id.  Note that, the article shows his
sig. file since at that time he did not know how to hide his sig file in the anonymous
posting.

Article: 108185 of soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: an3925@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Test
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:44:05 GMT


This is a test. Please ignore

Samit Banerjee,                     |
University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sb@flux.isr.alaska.edu (Santanu Bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: Bekel Holo.... Theker somoae
Organization: Geophysical Institute, Fairbanks, AK
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:24:38 GMT

In article <Jan.6.15.30.12.1993.4217@paul.rutgers.edu> partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man) writes:
>
>kolkata, dashuda, bengal-lamp/8b, nandan (any
>newcomer gokhelites out there?), coffee house..sob miliei to bangali r
>adda... kichu kichu jinis anuposthit keno? specially coffee house
>flavor? naki oparar u(n)tel ra amader moto mistri der patta dichchen
>na???

	Ae net e CU grad praye nae mane hoy, tai Presidency'r shamner
Coffee House  abong MG road er namkara ghomta deya thekgulo (jegulote
parda tana jai, abong khel jomlai boy ese hatat kore parda sariye 'aar
kicho lagbe naki?' jigesh kore!) bemalum gayeb hoye geche. bara dukher
bishoy!

Santanu 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chetans@agora.rain.com (Northwest Software Inc.)
Subject: Indian Nanny
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:18:32 GMT


Does anyone know where one could locate a good Indian Nanny to 
live with us and take care of our children ?  If anyone has hired
a Nanny either from here or from India, any suggestions or words of
advice would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Sonal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: lakshma@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Lakshman Ramamurthy)
Subject: Re: .... 60 minutes on CBS ....
Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:45:21 GMT

>
>There is nothing the courts can do.  There is nothing the politicians did.
>The politicians are just using the situation, for other beneficial purposes.
>
>The real problem is back-to-the-wall minoritysm displayed by ameena's
>parents and her neighbors, and utter/abject poverty. End of Discussion.
>
>
>Give me one good reason, as to why US media should be enamoured
>with india.  Enamoured with ancient india!? --  makes lot of sense.
>But today's India?....?
>
>
>Why the hell cant U guys come to terms with Ur lives?  U ran away from
>that India.  Now just forget it.
>
>
First of all Seetamma's attitude is clearly an indication o her deep-
seated anger about her insecurities..and I will leave it at that. I
didn't run away here, I have come to better myself and will go back to
impart the new knowledge to my fellow countrymen..Seetamma can hold on
to somebody's coattails and hang on here..we won't miss her (or is it him
re: the CBS article...it is clearly reprehensible..and no I don't think 
educated americans take that as the representation fo India..all countries
have their problems..they have their own...so let us not shy away from the t
ruth...we can be proud of what we have and had and fix what is not ok...
This is a test of our patriotism. Peace! Lakshman. 
lakshman@uncvx1.bitnet


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: Bekel Holo.... Theker somoae
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:05:48 GMT

In article <Jan.6.15.30.12.1993.4217@paul.rutgers.edu> partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man) writes:
>
>kolkata, dashuda, bengal-lamp/8b, nandan (any
>newcomer gokhelites out there?), coffee house..sob miliei to bangali r
>adda... kichu kichu jinis anuposthit keno? 
>

Agreed. Ah nostalgia ...

>
>Jadavpur super market er kache Indian Coffee house er ekta branch
>chilo oboshyo.. kintu jadavpuria ra otake bishes patta ditona.
>oi complex e pore 'blue lagoon' bole ekti chinese thek hoechilo,
>air-conditioned hoar phole besh bhir hoto....
>

The Blue Lagoon restaurant was horribly overpriced and only
elitist upper-class :) students could afford to go there. 
 
If anyone cares, I always used to patronise Hindustan Sweets :)

The coffee house was fine too, but the pakoras were lousy. Besides,
the Jadavpur Coffee House suffered because it always invited
comparison with its redoubtable and more well-known counterpart,
the College Street Coffee House, to which Jadavpur finished a 
miserable second. The Jadavpur Coffee House definitely lacked 
the intellectual aristocracy of College Street.


-Sayan Bhattacharyya.

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Kolkata ekdin kollolini tilottoma hobe' |
                        - Jibanananda Dash.
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: I know who make anonymous
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:49:25 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Godura Moshai likhonti:
>Aiiiyo, ille. I ask Srikrishnan before I write my eruditions on
>Periyar's ancestry, or why Shivamuladithurraimahalingam did a
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Vobbeliseethamarangamungum at Sriranaganathathaswamipuram.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>But, aamar Bangla poshteeng eez copyright (c) Ruchirda Goruda.

Raghavan:
> Mahalingapuram is between Nungambakkam and Kodambakkam. Serious.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^             ^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

        The blatantly sesquipedalian nature of the contra-septentrional
lingos compounded by the arcane onametapoeiac ringings of the said words
forces a genteel doubt in the subliminal ,metamorphosing into a full-blown
forensic talk about the ontological issues - existence,necessity,uniqueness -
associated with the same said words, made difficulter but at the same time 
bolstered by the Stygian and almost hopeless task of penetrating the formidable
semantic barriers erected almost as if on purpose by the sagely creators of
that which was , in the first place, devised for the express purpose of
communicating *meaning* and *expressions*.

     Cryptic Uncle's Sciolist nephew :)

	FFT




      



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: brahme@atpg.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:12:29 GMT

It is common knowledge that there is a shortage of $'s in India.
IMO GOI's policy (& apparent support from the public is reponsible for it).
WHile there are many reasons for this, lets take the case
of high import duties (known as killer duties > 150% etc.. ) These actually
do more harm and (& do not do any good at all).

Heres is a simple example:

Myth 1: Import duties conserve foreign exchange

assume india earns $ 200, 000 by gulf workers, exporting garments.
assume a vcr costs $ 200.
assume 1000 vcrs are bought in india every year.

Now let us put 200 percent duty on vcrs. let 1$ = Rs 30.

Under this scheme vcr costs 18, 000 rupees with Rs 6000 going to the gulf worker and 12000 going to
the govt.

------------

Now lets remove 200 per cent duty and make it 0 %.

Now since temporarily the price of vcr has dropped, more people want to buy
vcrs, so more people need $'s, so the price of $ rises. This price will continue to rise
until it reaches the equilibrium 1 $ = Rs 90. (that is the 200% duty gets absorbed into the exchange rate of
$ to rs).

Thus the person who buys vcr will still pay 18000 rupees, except that now gulf worker, hard
working garment exporter gets 90 rupees instead of 30 rupees.
--------------------

Concl: Thus the high import duties is basically a tax on exporters or gulf $ earners.



- dan brahme
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43869 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1680 alt.culture.kerala:1289
From: kumar@hsomai.enet.dec.com (ASHOK KUMAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: JOB SEARCH AND RELATED NEWSGROUPS AND SOURCES.
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:20:04 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <C0pKJ9.8oy@athena.cs.uga.edu>, venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (ABDUL PETER IYENGAR) writes...
>   A friend of mine is looking for a teaching job in the 
>   department of Applied Statistics.
>   Since he is not a frequenter of these networks,
>   can somebody tell me the newsgroups that cater to
>   such needs?
>   Any database search that can be accessed for a fee
>   in this country? 
>   Any sources other than the Chronicle that advertises
>   any openings?
>   And of any openings that you may be aware of at your
>   univ. or college ?
>   My friend and me would be grateful for any leads in 
>   this endeavour.
>   Regards and thanking you folks in advance.
>   gopakumar
             There is a statistical Magzine published by ASA every month or 
QUARTER and should be available in almost every Math Library or Statistical
Library if University has a Statistics department. This is like IEEE spectrum
if I can compare the two. They have a listing of every Statistics job in an
academic institution and probably in Industry( Not Sure). 

Good luck

AK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@dwalin.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Bikel bela .. theker somoy
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:07:58 GMT

1970 Vespa-e boshe, (tin din theke rejaarv-e aachche) Kamala petrol
paamp-e darai. 
 Khokon, ek-ek bhore de. Hawa ti dekehe de to.
 Tarpor shoja Dasur dokane.
 Ki khobor Debda, Nishitda, Parthoda ? Dasu ekti cha de.
 Aaj Nishitda onuroadh korlo kobita chai ( ei, ekti taan de na ).
 Beta modemti kintu thik kaaj korchche na .. shejonne aage likhte pari
 ni.     Ekada Ramchondro giya chilen bone,
	 emon shomoy kathpipre dilo keta -----
	 < Ekhane Aayush Oshthana sainsaar kore dilo .. >
 < tin maas por aaj prothom baar Probal elo >
 Ai Dasu ekti peshaal cha duto kore diye ja.. Onekdin por Neta aashchche !
 Aar chaarte sheengara .. aamar hishebe likhe de.
 Ei Bo%&#$*#% diyashelai ti bhije aache ! Dasu, diyashelai de.
 Bolo bhai Neta, ki khobor, bou to peyegale, banchod, thekti bhule gale ?
 ..
 <to be continued>

 
-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ratan@stationd.storage.tandem.com (Ratan Tipirneni)
Subject: Car Dealers 
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:27:11 GMT

I went to the Toyota Dealership this weekend with my wife, with the
intention of buying a Corolla.  I had spent the last couple of weeks researching
what I needed and by the time I walked into the dealership, I knew exactly what
I wanted including the options and the color.  I also had accurate price
information from AAA's auto pricing service and had figured out the dealer markup
also.
	We spent about 10-15 minutes test driving the car and then went in to
negotiate the price.  The deal should have been very simple because I had 
pre-approved financing,  knew what I wanted and knew what the car costed.
We were in agreement over the price except for the additional cost of the
Advertising Cost of $300 which the dealer wanted me to pay.  I made the salesman
an offer and he said that it was very close but that I may need to raise it
a little bit.  He went out of the office and came back with his manager.
The manager was extremely rude and insisted that we pay a $300 fee for the
advertising tax which I refused.  As he continued to be rude and obnoxious
we just got up and were preparing to leave the dealership.  At this point the
manager said something very abusive to us and used foul language, which
really offended me and my wife.  
	I called the Toyota Corporate headquarters today.  They logged my complaint
but told me that the dealers are independant businesses and that they would
not be able to do much.   I would like to make a formal complaint to some
kind of a consumer affairs organisation and was wondering if anyone knew
what organisation that might be.  It seems like these people shouldn't be able
to get away with something like this. 
	For those of you who live in the Bay area and may be interested, the
dealership that I am reffering to is Steven's Creek Toyota.  The funny thing is
that 4 out of 5 friends to whom I narrated this incident to, complained of similar
problems with the SAME dealer.  I wonder how they are still  in Business?
Several people have recommended Piercy Toyota after all this happened.

Ratan Tipirneni
(ratan@storage.tandem.com)  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mahadev@florin.ecn.purdue.edu (Vadali Mahadev)
Subject: Inexpensive Sublease Close to campus(PURDUE)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:31:54 GMT



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Where:        350 South Grant Street, Apt. No. 3
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	      Microwave 
	      Television(Roommate's)
	      Large closets 
	      Free parking

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Please leave a message, and I will get back to you...
Thanks
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sraghun@andy.bgsu.edu (srinivasan raghunathan)
Subject: Re: talk.politics.howrah.bridge.II ( Was re: bengali culture...)
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:53:54 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Nos Tacemus -[The Satanic Verses] -- Icarus.
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:31:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.132454.2132@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.201239@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed
Khan) writes:
>     
> >>    I agree that the book is heretic, but I do not agree that
> >>    a heretic should be killed.
> >
> >
> >Me too.
> >
> >The problem is that the image of muslims and Islam in general have been
> >maligned to such an extent that Khomeni's fatwa was used by the media in
> >the west to rob the average muslims right to be outraged and protest the
> >publication of this book. It was assumed without comment that all muslims
> >were blodthirsty people who supported the killing and were represented in
intent
> >by Khomeni's fatwa.
> 
> With all due respect: I am sure there are many many Muslims who
> disagreed with Khomeini's fatwa, but precious few have spoken out.
> Where are the organized groups of Muslims who speak out against
> such behavior on the part of Muslim leaders, which, as you rightly point
> out, is used by many to bring discredit to Islam as a whole?
> 
> 


What do you expect them to do? Take out a full page ad. in a paper denouncing
Khomeni?

Its a no win situation. If a muslim denounces the fatwa, he is labeled
a minority and inconsequential. If he doesn't its counted as one more proof
of the *entire* community supporting the fatwa.

If someone wants to be prejudiced against a community (not saying that you are)
he will never be satisfied by any claims which run counter to his colored view.



--Javed.


P.S: I'm not interested in arguing any further. These issues have been beaten
to death in many previous articles and I've no wish to add to them.




 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43687 soc.culture.tamil:5075 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1651
From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sneaky posts from women's net
Summary: I never had any doubts.
Keywords: sleazeballs, sleazebuckets,poker,BIG JOB, Dating.
	  Hang lose on the Caboose !
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:55:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1isqbnINNrg5
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu

Dear Susan,

It seems you know little about Indian men in general. And of course, Indian
women"s idle gossip in particular.

I never doubted a single thing that was posted, and still donot doubt not
only the accuracy, but the truth in the post.


Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Nos Tacemus -[The Satanic Verses] -- Icarus.
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:38:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1993Jan12.132454.2132@cis.ohio-state.edu>, chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes...
> 
>With all due respect: I am sure there are many many Muslims who
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Looks like you are scared to express your views. When did you use
	such expression when talking against Sati or any evil-[non]Hindu
	practice?

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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From: gidh@bucknell.edu (Kedar Gidh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IT-BHU alumni list
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:01:24 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.cs.bucknell.edu


Some time ago I posted a request asking for some info. on IT-BHU alumni abroad.
I got a good response based on that request and have mailed all those who 
responded (219 names!!!) 

For those of you who missed my earlier posting here is a repeat of my previous 
posting.
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I am trying to compile a list of IT-BHU alumni abroad. The idea is to have one
complete list so that all IT-BHU alumni can maintain contact with each other.

Please respond at the above email address with the following info.

1) Name
2) Branch (at IT-BHU)
3) Year of graduation from IT-BHU
4) Present University/Co. abroad
5) Current Email address
6) Most convenient Ph. no.

All those who contribute will get a copy of the list.
It is hoped that once the list is made, it would be updated regularly. 

Thanks.

Kedar
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Hope to have a real good network of IT-BHU alumni abroad.

Kedar
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 5 Jan 1993 18:13:20 EST
From: ABHAY <IO10928@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Ravi Venkateswaran

I am looking for ravi from Madras (adyar) fron College of Engg. (Guindy)

My name is Ravi from Madras ( REC Warangal) and Pl.. contact me on the
following E mail Address. IO10928@maine.maine.edu
From: ravoor@cs.iastate.edu (Suresh Babu Ravoor)
Subject: Email address for HCL Madras
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:43:09 GMT

Could somebody send me the email address for HCL Software R&D Madras. I am 
desperately trying to contact a friend there. Thanks a lot.

*******************************************************************************
       Suresh Babu Ravoor                    (ravoor@judy.cs.iastate.edu)     
       308A, Westgate Hall, Ames, IA 50012.            Ph: (515)-294-6255    
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It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
From: srinivas@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Srinivas Vuppuluri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India's Place in the World Economy
Date: 10 Jan 1993 17:00:49 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1993Jan4.003425.1500@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
>
>look impressive, but the procedure wouldn't recognize the fact that
>the goods would bring much less that amount in the international market.
>
I think there is some confusion here in the way economic output is
measured. Instead of considering market value, it seems more rational
to consider value in some universal units. Thus, a ton of
standard-grade steel would have the same value whether produced in
India or elsewhere. Whether Indian steel commands a lesser or higher price
in the international market than that produced by another country
is an issue determined by forces like advertising, trading
relationships, reputation, subsidies etc.. Ranks based on market value
would therefore be biased and quite difficult to compute.

Moreover, since India is not a net-exporter, international market values are
difficult to deduce. While our perception may be that Indian goods
sell for less in international markets than they do in India, this is
hard to substantiate.

I think the original statement in this thread was that India has a
fairly impressive volume of industrial output which makes it worthy of
being considered industrialized nation. The issue of market
value should not change this perception. 

-- 
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*  University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee                                     *
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