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From: graeme@fulcrum.co.uk (Graeme Hodgson)
Subject: Medical terminology - Was Re: VIZspeak - What is frottage ?
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:39:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.181121.7563@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>
>As for the question of what the inside of the knee is called: well,
>what's the inside of the elbow called?
>
From my 'O' level biology days I seem to recall being told that no
medical term exists for the back (i.e. inside) of the knee.

Is it the same for the inside of the elbow?

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Xref: sparky uk.misc:2405 rec.arts.tv.uk:7036
From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Ariston music for TV Advert
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:34:27 GMT
Reply-To: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk (Lloyd Wood)
Distribution: uk
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

Yes, I saw that dance programme, with the (French?) director's boy-throws-ball 
through window building up to an incredibly complex setup and down to nothing
again.

Anyone remember the name of the programme (BBC2), and the director of the piece?

L. (who designs washing machines for a living)
From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Video Plus (the real reason for the gadget)
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:55:37 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: peter@memex.co.uk's message of 7 Jan 93 09:13:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.091311.18176@memex.co.uk> peter@memex.co.uk (Peter Ilieve) wrote:
> In article <1i9amvINNqps@cardamom.compnews.co.uk> phil@compnews.co.uk writes:
> Why do people want the information anyway, other than curiosity and in
> reaction to the claims it is proprietary?

Curiosity is a strange thing - I always like to know how something works,
but I rarely (if ever) use that information. The general principle of the
V+ is well understood, the actual coding scheme is not necessary to this
understanding.

> The whole Video+ thing seems a solution looking for a problem to me.

The real reason for the V+ is to make money for its inventors! PDC is the
simplest and best way to set VCR timers.

> 		Peter Ilieve		peter@memex.co.uk
> 
> PS. Thanks to Phil Male for all the stuff he has posted about this.

Seconded!

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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Madeira, m'dear (was Re: Hyphening)
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:43:35 GMT

In article <C0qp39.LGn@dcs.ed.ac.uk> eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.151904.2536@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>>In article <8141@skye.ed.ac.uk> ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <3363@ucl-cs.uucp> G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly) writes:
>>>
>>>#  Is the word "rape" ever funny? Not in my book. 
>>>
>>>Then your book obviously isn't the Flanders and Swann Song Book.
>>>
>>>-- Ken Johnson  "Have some madeira, m'dear,
>>>                 The words seemed to ring in her ear,
>>>                 Until the next morning
>>>                    She woke up in bed
>>>                 With a smile on her lips
>>>                    And an ache in her head,
>>>                 And a beard in her ear-hold that tickled and said
>>>                 Have some Madeira, m'dear!"
>>>
>>>A BEER TOKEN TO THE FIRST PERSON TO XPOST THIS TO
>>>ALT.SEXUAL.ABUSE.RECOVERY. 
>>
>>And two beer tokens to the first person to find the word "rape" in
>>this song.  (By the way, Ken, it's "earhole", not "ear-hold".)
>
>Three to anyone who can construct a convincing argument that it is, 
>in fact,funny.

Well, I'm a great devotee of Flanders and Swann, and I've always liked
this song, and the audience enjoyed it enough on the recording...  I
admit it's all totally non-PC, and I suppose they'd never get away
with it nowadays, but I just love the way Michael Flanders sang it.


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Xref: sparky uk.misc:2576 uk.transport:195
From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.transport
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:42:54 GMT
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Followup-To: uk.transport
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.

[Please note "Followup-To:".]

In article <C0qpF6.Lqw@dcs.ed.ac.uk> eo@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Emma Osman) writes:
>On the other hand, with a local shop five minutes walk away rather than a giant
>hypermarket half an hour's drive out of town,

	Perhaps you should live somewhere better organised.  My nearest GH
is about 5 mins drive;  I'd be surprised if there is anywhere in Nottingham
which is as much as 10 mins from its nearest GH.  In half an hour, esp at
my preferred shopping time of 8pm on Friday, I can get to Derby, L'boro or
Newark, or most of the way to Leicester, let alone to any of the 20+ GH's
in and around Nottingham.

>					       you can , more quickly and 
>cheaply , (in terms of money spent on petrol etc) go twice a week and get
>half as much shopping each time.

	No-one [sane] goes to Sainsbury's because it's cheap.  But I can't
get decent bread, cheese or ice cream [to name but three] at the local
shops, I can't get *anything* but wine and takeaways there after 5pm, and
I can't get meat or fresh vegetables/fruit/salad there after about 11am.

-- 
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anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
From: mjg@eng.cam.ac.uk (Michael Gray)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Cable TV Picture Quality
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:46:40 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

steve@unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow) writes:

>I have just had Cambridge Cable installed on a two month trial. I have a
>smaller screen TV and have not been very impressed with picture quality
>either.

Likewise, and the FM feed was truly appauling.  However when I
reported this they sent a technician, who adjusted the tap at the
junction box providing our signal, resulting in a great picture and
solid stereo FM on all the supplied stations.  Apparently the
individual feed can be taken from one of several taps at various
attenuations, to account for different cable lengths.

Michael
mjg@eng.cam.ac.uk
From: stuart@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Coppergate (was Re: Hypnotism)
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:25:11 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

David Lau-Kee (laukee@canon.co.uk) wrote:
: eset08@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Strobridge) writes:
: >invented - like the Coppergate at York being a large gate made of
: >copper.
: ...
: 
: If it was a large gate made of copper in York then it would be
: "Copper Bar". Was it a street where they dug up a pile of Viking
: copper (in which case Coppergate would be remarkably accurate)?

If its any help to anyone there is a (newish) shopping arcade in York
called Coppergate...

Stuart
(stuart@minster.york.ac.uk)
Xref: sparky uk.misc:2303 alt.games.mornington.cresent:376
From: ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.games.mornington.cresent
Subject: Re: Mornington Crescent rules anyone?
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:11:36 GMT
Followup-To: uk.misc,alt.games.mornington.cresent
Distribution: uk
Organization: William's Wonderful Wonky Widget Warehouse


In UK.MISC article <1993Jan6.214123.7118@lut.ac.uk> L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
(Lloyd Wood) writes:

# Does anyone fancy a game of old Mornington?

There is a game in progress on the group alt.games.mornington.cresent. 
(Note the spelling mistake, which is there on purpose to stop people
finding the group by looking for it.) You could join in. 

#  If so, I'll start at King's Cross (I usually do) and travel to Euston. 
#  I'll change there.  I think the Paisley Park [*] rules are best suited
#  under these playing conditions

Well, er, perhaps all things considered it would be better if you lurk
on that group for a time and watch the experts. 

Ken Johnson


[* Actually he probably means the Paisley Scarf rules.  These are now
long outdated.  The book, `Ye Morningtone Crescent Chapbooke: First
Steppes for ye New Players' by Edward Paisley (great^8grandfather of
Ian) and Josephine Scarf (great^7grandmother of Gerald), was published
by Nelson's in 1790.  I think the Scottish National Library has a copy. 
The book pre-dates the London Underground; it was based on stagecoach
routes of the day.]



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From: joe@jshark.inet-uk.co.uk (Joe Sharkey)
Subject: Re: Fast & Cheap Money Xfer to USA
Organization: Individual Network (UK)
Distribution: uk
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:53:37 GMT

In article <20988@acorn.co.uk> agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.115314.1217@devon.co.uk> mcneill@devon.co.uk (Keith McNeill) writes:
>>
>>What is the best (meaning fastest & cheapest) way to transfer money to the
>>USA (or anywhere else I guess).  Last week I wire transferred money to my US
>
>After moaning to my bank (Royal Bank of Scotland) about the excessive cost
>of IMOs etc (especially when compared with credit card payments), they 
>offered to provide me with a US dollar account.

:-)

>offered to provide me with a US dollar account. This should cost me about 
>5 pounds to write a cheque, but the cheque will be drawn in US dollars and 
>should be cashable in the US at no additional charge to the payee.

If the usual sort:
 a) noone in the US will accept it, not "drawn on a US bank"
 b) currency conversion is expensive
 c) you still have to *send* the cheque (and then wait while clearance
    trickles through the US and UK - then loops back through the USA
    'cos its a dollar account)

>Since I haven't received the cheque book yet, I can't be sure if it works
>as intended (I wouldn't be surprised to see something like the $4 charge
>you mention at the other end).

Be pleased if only $4!

>-adrian

joe.
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From: grc@stl.stc.co.uk (Gary Cook)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Alton Towers opening date
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:34:19
Organization: STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.3.130.15


 Anyone know when Alton Towers re-opens for the summer ? I want to get
there before all the spotty little twerps and go bonkers on all the
rides without spending 95% of my time queueing !

Ta in advance,

-grc.

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From: ia@singer.lif.icnet.uk (Iain Archer <ia@biu.icnet.uk>)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Solmin
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:13:35 GMT
Organization: Imperial Cancer Research Fund
Distribution: world
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In article <C0Dvxo.CnE@fulcrum.co.uk>, igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
|> 
|> There are many things that people can use to kill themselves.  Should my
|> kitchen contain only blunt knives?

Agreed.  But as I understand it the trouble with paracetamol is that there really are several deaths each year caused by accidental overdoses.  The R4 
Punters program had a feature last year on it.  So far as I remember, as few as fifteen tablets could be lethal; not so difficult to take in a relatively short
period for someone with chronic pain and who thinks they are only beneficial.
The feature presenters were campaigning for the subsidising of a safer version 
that contains additives that would mitigate or prevent the poisonous effects.

They also mentioned, I think, a typical 'parasuicide' case: a young woman who had
taken an overdose of paracetamol, had the usual emergency admisssion and stomach
pump, regretted it all and was glad to be feeling a bit better, but who still 
died a couple of weeks later from the liver damage that had already occurred.

Iain

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Newsgroups: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: VIZspeak - What is frottage ?
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:11:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.175323.22456@samba.oit.unc.edu> Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth) writes:
>In article <zlsiida.717@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>>>In article <C0FnMG.Fx0@demon.co.uk> gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham
>>>Toal) writes:
>>
>>>#  What's the word for having sex with someone's (presumably someone
>>>#  *else*'s ;-) ) armpit?
>>
>>"Gross" ought to cover it.
>>>>Now, what's the word for the equivalent at the knee?  knee-pit?
>
>"Crotch", actually.

[scratches head...]

Ah... you can't *have* the equivalent of an armpit at the knee, can
you?  The knee corresponds to the elbow, not the shoulder.  So the
analogue of the armpit for the lower half of the body must be the
groin (not the crotch -- you've only got one of those!).

As for the question of what the inside of the knee is called: well,
what's the inside of the elbow called?



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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Drugs
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:37:13 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <7149@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (Michael!) writes:

>In article <IDF.93Jan10032525@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk>, idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet) writes:
>|> 
>|>  On 9 Jan 93, Michael! wrote
>|> 
>|> > This is misleading. You can get stoned by eating hash cakes - how stoned
>|> > you get depends on how much hash is in them! (Same applies to how strong
>|> > the spliffs are).
>|> 
>|>  Speaking from a never-done-it-myself-but-know-a-few-people-that-have
>|> standpoint my understanding is that those who smoke a lot or who are
>|> regular users get a lot more per unit of cannabis than those who
>|> aren't regulars.  Obviously, the more cannabis then the more stoned
>|> you are going to get but it is a little more involved than a
>|> straightforward proportional to volume formula.
>|> 
>|> --
>|> Cheers,
>|> 
>|>     Ian
>|> 
>|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|> Ian Fitchet                                       I.D.Fitchet@cs.bham.ac.uk
>|> School of Computer Science
>|> Univ. of Birmingham, UK, B15 2TT


>Ummm... I'm not convinced that "experienced" smokers get more hit-per-THC-molecule
>inhaled but maybe the experienced people get more hit-per-spliff since they 
>have learned how to inhale and keep all that smoke in their lungs as long as 
>possible without choking everything back up, whereas "newcomers" have less 
>deep/long drags and therefore the active ingredients have less time to diffuse 
>into the blood stream.

It's more the learned ability to notice the effects

        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Drugs
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:35:07 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <CAH.93Jan8154613@mopsy.bham.ac.uk> cah@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins) writes:

>>>>>> On 8 Jan 93 10:06:15 GMT, rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) said:

>Robin> In article <1993Jan7.142137.23932@tadtec.uucp>, Tim Steele <tjfs@tadtec.co.uk> writes:

> |> Secondly, a friend showed me his toxicology textbook which had a whole 
> |> chapter devoted to arguing the case for banning alcohol and replacing it 
> |> with cannabis.  
> [...]

>Robin> On the other hand, it would surely be discriminatory against those of
>Robin> us who can't cope with smoking.  I've only ever experienced the stuff
>Robin> once, in rock buns (of all things), and was told that its lack of
>Robin> effect was to be expected - I should have been smoking it.

>Alternatively you could have eaten more rock buns.

Inexperienced users sometimes have to be made to realise they're stoned.  
This is especially true if you eat it.
So I'm told.

My mother-in-law makes me rock buns without the currants.


        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Think of a number
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:31:13 GMT

In article <CC.93Jan12110356@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>In article <1is6q4INNdqn@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R J Tinsley) writes:
>
>   From the CIA World Factbook entry for the United Kingdom...
>
>   Population:
>       57,797,514 (July 1992)
>   Ethnic divisions:
>       English 81.5%, Scottish 9.6%, Irish 2.4%, Welsh 1.9%, Ulster 1.8%, West
>       Indian, Indian, Pakistani, and other 2.8%
>
>This doesn't seem right - it seems to imply that it's impossible to be
>"English/West Indian" or "Scottish Pakistani" or "Welsh Chinese" or whatever.

If we're talking about ethnicity rather than nationality or culture,
then it is impossible (unless you're referring to people with mixed
parentage).  A person born in England to parents of West Indian stock
is ethnically West Indian, even though he may consider himself English
from a cultural point of view.

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From: phil@compnews.co.uk (Phil Male)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Video Plus
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:34:53 GMT
Reply-To: phil@compnews.co.uk
Distribution: uk
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X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
:                  I'm also pretty tired of all their pushing of FilthLine
: (tm) telephone services. 

I'm sure the ads are not for those sort of numbers, now the Midnight Blue
pages (which I *still* havn't seen) are supposed to be a different matter.

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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Drugs
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:29:10 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

tjfs@tadtec.co.uk (Tim Steele) writes:

>- Alcohol makes some people aggressive; cannabis doesn't

The guy who killed a student with a baseball bat a few months back was
under the influence of cannabis (though I can't remember if alcohol was
also involved). I suspect that it'd be more likely that *some* people
are made more agressive by cannabis. Perhaps less proportionately than
by alcohol though.

FoFP
From: tjo@its.bt.co.uk (Tim Oldham)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Solmin
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:13:48 GMT
Organization: BT Group Computing Services, Birmingham, UK

In article <1993Jan6.154629.2893@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
>In article <29906@castle.ed.ac.uk>, eset08@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Strobridge) writes:
>>       But then I'm not entirely convinced that these cold remedies
>> really do anything more than disguise the symptoms anyway and certainly
>> don't cure one!    
>
>This is precisely why I view paracetamol as a very dangerous drug. People
>aren't very rational or careful when they feel ill or are in pain. Pain killers
>need to be as fool proof as possible, and paracetamol fails that quite badly
>in my view.

There is no general remedy for the common cold, as it is a viral infection
with new variations every year. Remedies cover up the symptoms to make it
bearable; your body will deal with the cold in time. Why feel miserable if
you can safely avoid doing so? 

Aspirin and paracetemol do more than relieve pain; they also lower the
temperature, which aids recovery. Paracetemol also reduces inflammation;
it's the first line of defence against arthritis, for example.

My recommendation: for pain, take paracetemol or paracetemol/codeine
mixtures.  For colds, take contac 400, which work spectacularly well.
For sore throats, gargle with soluble aspirin. 

Do not exceed the stated dose. Really. Even if you're not well.

	Tim.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Video Plus (a few questions) Phil?
X-Disclaimer: #include <std/witty/disclaimer.h>
Reply-To: Jim Thomas <jthomas@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
	<1imphlINNhas@cardamom.compnews.co.uk>
	<1993Jan11.131228.13869@unipalm.co.uk>
Distribution: uk
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:23:28 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:12:28 GMT, keith@unipalm.co.uk (Keith Mitchell) said:


>mark@mark-one.inet-uk.co.uk (Mark Powell) writes: : Do these new
>teletext aware videos set the videos clock from the teletext : time at
>the top of the page?

>> Mine, a Philips VR713, does indeed set its time off Teletext. It
>> seems to repond to packets sent out around that start/end of news
>> programs, when it briefly flashes on screen it is setting its clock.

>> I believe the Ceefax Clock comes from the MSF clock at Rugby, though
>> it drifts when this (frequently) goes down. I think the BBC are
>> planning to switch it over to their own atomic clock they use for the
>> radio "pips".

>> I have no idea where the Teletext clock on ITV/CH4 comes from.
>> Presumably NTL have thier own atomic clock ot other source. It would
>> be nice if a teletext clock could be synced up to the Internet NTP
>> world....

>> From what I hear of SkyText, I don't think the satellite teletext
>> providers even bother to get the time *right*, never mind
>> synchronised.

And the Italian channel is always an hour fast :)

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