HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak CHHABRA)
Subject: Re: WWF: Are We Stupid?
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak CHHABRA)
Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:46:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.153926.19371@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:
>Boy does Vince think that we are stupid. Bringing back Smash as Repo Man was 
>o.k. because Repo Man has short hair has a mask etc - so you could fail to 
>recognize him. Bringing back Crush as Crush and expecting people not to 
>remember 2 years back is a little less plausiable. But now he all of a sudden 
>has a thick Hawaian accent. Where did that come from? He didn't have it last 
>month. Then we get the Comet Kid who becomes Max - same costume same gimick 
>different names and we are supposed to think that he is someone different.

He did the same thing with John Nord; one week he was Nord the Viking, the 
next he was the Berzerker (what a stupid name).

>Too bad Roddy Piper is not still an announcer. When the brought in Saba Simba 
>he said "Hey I know him. That's Tony Atlas." I wonder what Vince thought of him
>saying that?

I remember this; McMahon said something like "...he's chosen to go back to his
roots..."  Jeez, I hate Vince.

Speaking of Piper, I distinctly recall an incident from the Summerslam with
Hogan/Warrior vs. Slaughter, Shiek (as Mustafa) and the other guy.  When
Mustafa had Hogan in the Camel Clutch, Piper said that he remembered the same
scene from 1984.  I forget who he was commentating with, but he shut up in 
a big hurry.  Did anyone else catch this or am I wrong here?

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
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From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: It gets worse 
Distribution: world
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Date: 6 Oct 92 16:32:28 EST
Organization: What organization?

Just when I thought the GWF was in bad shape, now things have gotten worse.
What the hell kind of angle is this with Tatum/Victory and a failed pizza
parlor? And a bungee match? Gaawwwddd...

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From: wj_wigna@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Ebeneezer Goode)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: NWA World title history
Keywords: wicked!
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:59:45 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

Has anyone got any title histories from the NWA/WCW? I need details of all
their titles, including ones now defunct. If anyone has got them could they
mail them to me.

I'm also looking for a WWF Jnr Heavyweight history, as my copy seems to have a few flaws in it.

And whilst I'm on what the hell has happened to the Survivor Series. I thought
it was supposed to be an event where titles didn't matter and the wrestlers had
to put up with each other in order to win. It's pretty sad that this year there
are 3 matches on the card which would be better placed at SummerSlam (wasn't 
that utter crap?).

I suppose next they will narrow the Rumble down to 10 competitors!

Bill
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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: WCW TV Taping: Scott Steiner TV Champ
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:42:31 GMT

In article <6OCT199212290797@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA) writes:
> If Ricks out w/ a peck tear, they will probably lose the belts the same way 
> they did last time. via the 30 day time limit.  

  It's not exactly clear to me that the Steiners lost the titles via the 
  30 day rule.  That was the North American explanation, but in Japan
  the Steiners were supposed to defend against Hiro Hase & Keiji Muto
  and with Scott injured, Rick teamed with Scott Norton for that match
  fot the IWGP Titles.  Rick got pinned with the Northern Lights Suplex.
  I don't know if Rick & Scott Nortn were officially defending the titles
  or if the titles were held up with the winner of this match getting
  them.

                                                            Herb...
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From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Subject: Re: Bobby Heenan's Quote of the Year
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:29:08 GMT

Heenanisms (as brought forward from last year...on this net)

1.   Get that banana out of your mouth and call the match !
(Wrestlemania 8)

2.   You know how Paul Bearer got that urn ? The old fashioned way, he
urn-ed it. (ibid.)

God, what would the WWF be without Bobby the Brain/Weasel ?
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From: sgamble@crc.ac.uk (Steve Gamble x3293)
Subject: Re: Hogan's imminent return?
Reply-To: sgamble@crc.ac.uk (Steve Gamble x3293)
Organization: MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre, Harrow, UK
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:41:46 GMT

I remember interviews with Hogan in UK newspapers 18 months or more ago
where he was saying that he was going to retire after the 1993 Wrestlemania.
(That was before all the fuss about the special vitamins blew up).

Over the years Hogan has been good business for the WWF. If he really is
going to retire then expect uncle Vince to let him retire as the Champion
of Champions. Since he would need to be around for a couple of months
before the match to beat Slick Ric that would either mean coming back
at Suvivor Series so that match could be at Royal Rumble in January or
he comes back around Rumble time for a match at Wrestle Mania.

Hogan will retire leaving the title vacant so there will be a tournement
so that Ric or Lex can gain the belt. "You know brother, I been away
considering my future. I had to come back, to prove to myself and for all
the little Hulkamanics I could do it just one more time. To settle
unfinished business before I hang up the tights........" etc etc

If Vince was really dumping HH he would have been removed from the opening
sequences ages ago

Steve
-- 
(Disclaimer: These are not my employer's opinions, they may not even be mine!)  
Steve Gamble, Computing Services, Clinical Research Centre and Human Genome  
Mapping Project Resource Centre, Watford Road, Harrow, Middlesex, HA1 3UJ, UK.
Phone: +44 81 869 3293  JANET: s.gamble@uk.ac.crc INTERNET: s.gamble@crc.ac.uk
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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Sheets
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:39:55 GMT

dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:
 
>He says it is a copyright violation.
>Now I have carefully checked my copies of the Observer and I see no
>indication anywhere that it is copyrighted and would be supprized if it was.
>It costs money to copyright and it is not worth it for a newsletter. 
 
No indication of copyright is required for protection in countries that
are members of the Berne Convention.  These countries include the US,
Canada, UK, Japan, Australia, Germany and pretty much every other
place other than Russia and Bangladesh (well, ok, a few others too).  
If it's an original expression and written in some fixed form, it's
distribution is protected by copyright laws.
 
>Also, and someone who knows can correct me if I am wrong, you cannot
>copyright news items.
 
It's the expression of those items that fall under copyright laws, not the
items themselves.
 
>I don't think it is offensive or inappropite for people to give sheet 
>summaries. 
 
I don't think posting exerpts from one item is anything to get in a huff
about, but it is a copyright violation.  There are a wide range of
sensitivities to such violations.  There is frequent debate in other
groups about whether the net itself is one big copyright infringement.
 
>What I do think is offensive and inappropite is the habit that almost
>everyone here has of not attributing where they got information. 
 
Since much of it is taken from Meltzer, who (until a few weeks ago)
never gave credit to any of his contributors, it seems only fair in a
karmic kind of way.
 
--Gary Will
From: ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Adrian Adonis?
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:18:23 GMT
Reply-To: ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell)

In article <1253@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> dvp@getafix (Dave Parry) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Reading the r.s.p.w. FAQ, I noticed a wrestler called Adrian Adonis
>mentioned a few times. Back in the sixties and seventies, here in the
>UK, there was a wrestler called Adrian Street whose 'angle' was
>camping it up - long blonde hair, make up, extravegant wrestling robe
>etc. He was a heel (and a very good one too) with a lot of wrestling
>ability. He wrestled either in singles or tagged with a guy called
>Bobby Barnes, and became really well known in the UK for a while -
>TV celeb. During the seventies, he disappeared from our screens and
>it was announced that he moved to the States - every so often, the
>papers would run articles on his sucees(?) over there.
>
>I heard no more for years until I read the FAQ. Can anyone confirm
>or deny that they are one and the same?
>
>BTW, another very popular and skillful wrestler around during that
>period in the UK was Judo Al Hayes - as his name implied, he exhibited
>a range of skills beyond the 'norm' and was great to watch - a real
>crowd pleaser. He wrestled as a face and had some great battles with
>guys like Mick McManus, Steve Logan, Jackie Pallo and The Masked American
>Outlaw(!). Believe it or not, Lord Alfred Hayes used to kick some a**!
>(apologies if this is a FAQ item).
>
>Thanks for your patience. This is my first posting - asbestos
>underwear now on.
>
>Regards
>
>Dave 
>
It's nice to see another U.K. pro-wrestling enthusiast!! 
The British are takin' over !!!!

In homage to the urn, (Hi Pooh-Bah/Lady Undertaker!)


The Whizzkid.


-- 
James W. Hussell			      University College Swansea, Wales.
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Blue Jays (No Wrestling Content)
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:13:33 GMT

To all of you rspw-ers up in the Great White North (er, Canada)...
congratulations on the Blue Jays becoming the first Canadian team
in a World Series (not to mention I think their mgr. is the first
black to manage in a Series...)!

From a poor, misguided Giants fan who is losing his team so he rooted
for the A's (#$*&@!!!!).

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Sheets
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:08:59 EDT

In article <1992Oct14.160036.20443@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:
 
{misinformation about copyright law deleted}
 
>What I do think is offensive and inappropite is the habit that almost everyone
>here has of not attributing where they got information. Even the net heros
>fail to give their sources. I think everyone should make an effort to say where
>they got thier information.
 
Two problems:  A lot of people who post here only get their information
from earlier posts.  And for some of us, we just can't remember where we
read some specific bit of information.  I've read a lot of sheets and
a lot of mainstream reporting on pro wrestling.  If you ask me where I
got some bit of information, I'll try to tell you.  But chances are I
don't remember where it came from.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: Question to Daryl Turner regarding Winnipeg TV taping
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:23:24 GMT

In article <mjenkins.718746903@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>Daryl:
>
>Were Vince and Hennig actually broadcasting from the back of the
>arena, as depicted on this week's Superstars, or was that image
>matting?

I would say image matting, as I never saw or heard about Curt or
Vince being around.  Only Gene.


>
>The reason I ask is that often you see the two of them from their
>little booth behind the crowd, but it was only at the Ottawa taping
>last year where Flair & Piper got into it that I actually saw their
>broadcast table from more than the standard over-the-shoulder shot.
>
>And were people as bored as they looked regarding Lance Cassidy? 


Yep.  At the time, the only name vs. name match we had had was a
5 minute match between BBM and Nailz, and the jobber specials were
getting kind of boring.  Factor in this is his 'debut', and no one
knew how to react to him.  (I don't think that there are many people
around that watch TSN's Power Hour and even less that watch WTBS to
know much about WCW.  All the local stations show nothing but WWF,
and therefore Cassidy was a non-entity to almost everyone.
(Heck, they pretty much pulled off the 'Terrific' Terry Taylor
routine...I could barely convince people around me that he had been
the Red Rooster.)

     Daryl
>
>Michael
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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Sheets (LONG)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:14:15 GMT

More from rec.sport.pro-wrestling.legal:
 
jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
>However, you can give the event a catchy name and copyright that. 
 
No you can't -- titles, names, and slogans are not (generally) protected
by copyright, but you might be able to claim it as a trademark.
 
>As far as paying for a copyright, that is called a Registered 
>Copyright, which is symbolized by the (R) or "R in the circle" glyph.
 
That's a registered trademark, not a copyright symbol.  Under the
Universal Copyright Convention (which is what guided US copyright law
before becoming a member of the Berne Convention on March 1, 1989),
the copyright symbol is the circled C, although the word "copyright" or
"copr." are also acceptable.  The TM symbol is also, obviously, for
trademarks (common law).  You don't have to pay anything to put a
copyright symbol on your work.  In Canada, it costs $35 to register a
work with the government and you don't even send a copy to anyone.
 
--Gary Will
 

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Kerry Von Erich sentenced in prescription forgery
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:09:00 GMT

From PWI Weekly:

Sentenced: Kerry Von Erich, on charges of six felony counts of
prescription forgery, on October 1 in Dallas, Texas. Von Erich
received a 10-year suspended sentence, 10 years of supervised
probation, and a $1,000 fine on each count for a total of $6,000. The
sentence was rendered by Judge Al Hammack in Dallas County District
Court #2.
From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Confirmation: Hart is champ!
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:34:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


	I heard that the "Bret Hart is Champ"
rumors are fact: The switch did take place
in Canada at a TV taping. I also heard that
the Hart--> Heel X-->Backlund scenario may
happen. However, as opposed to Hogan vs
Backlund at WM 9, it may be Flair vs Backlund.

	Apparantly, Bret and McMahan have had
altercations. I hear that Bret once slapped
Vince's son! If it is true, it's incredible
taht Vince made Bret champ...


					Charlie
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: LEGION OF DOOM
Keywords: LOD Better known as The Road Warriors
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:56:53 GMT


Keep
In article <1992Oct7.000839.21143@leland.Stanford.EDU> thedm@leland.Stanford.ED
U (Marcus M. Trevino) writes:
>Could someone please fill me in on the current LOD situation.  I am somewhat
>confused about their current status.  Why is Animal teaming with Crush?  Where
>is Hawk?  Have they left the WWF?  Is Paul Ellering still carrying around that
>stupid piec of wood named "Rocko"?  If they are no longer in the WWF, then
>where are they headed?  Sorry to waste bandwith on a subject that I am sure ha
s
>been covered before, but I just returned from summer break, and am a little
>behind in my Wrestling knowledge of current events.  Any answers to my
>questions, and/or any elaboration on the above questions will be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>TheDM @ Stanford University
>
>Marcus Trevino
>
The report on LOD is that Hawk has quit. He supposidly quit over the fact that 
his drug problem was supposed to be kept a secret and it was mentioned in the 
penthouse article. It is not yet clear whether or not they plan on having Crush
and Animal stay toghether as LOD. My guess is not.
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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: Steve Idol
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16: 01:18 -0500
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:01:18 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16: 00:35 CDT


Nope, I don't think I've ever heard of a wrestler going by the name
Steve Idol.

The closest I've heard was Austin Idol from old Georgia Championship
Wrestling days, say.... late 1970s

I think Austin also came back for a few matches last year with GWF.
Did he lose a "heart-throb" match with Scotty the Body--loser leaves
the GWF match?

		--Otto "Hack Idol" Heuer

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From: tonyb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Anthony G Barilla)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: wrestling in kansas
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:52:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: matt.1bfgfmINNc1b
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I'm writing to ask the question of what organizations
control which areas of the country?  Here in Kansas,
we get to see both the WCW and Dubya Dubya Eff.  It
is interesting that on the Missouri side of Kansas City
the WCW holds there shows, but on the Kansas side of K.C.,
its the Dubya Dubya Eff.  In Topeka and Wichita, both show
but, Topeka has recently became WCW territory exclusively...
even to the point of being the host of A Clash Of the Champions.
Wichita is still split, with the remainder of the state being WCW,
although we get both WCW and the Dubya Eff on the cable, if anyone
is taking a survey..place me in the favoring WCW catagory.

Tony Barilla
Kansas State University
From: murray@husc8.harvard.edu (Brendan Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: NEW WWF WORLD CHAMPION
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:13:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct13.171319.16345
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct13.161029.1779@orbital.demon.co.uk> bobh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Bob Hutton) writes:
>Hopefully this will get out sufficiently quickly to stop me from looking
>silly. Further to my post concerning The L.A. Times report that Bret
>Hart had taken the World strap at last Saturday's L.A. House show, this
>has been confirmed, unless I'm being wound up something rotten.
>
>Apparently Hellwig has been getting a bit demanding so they've decided
>against an immediate title run for him. The title will apparently go,
>Hart, a heel (unknown), Backlund, setting up Backlund .v. Hogan for The
>WrestleMania 9 Main Event.
>
>Hope this gets out quickly and is correct.
>
>Bob Hutton.


This sounds fishy.
I just did a Nexis search and there is no LA Times 
article reporting any such title change. 

Somebody better check their facts.

-BM
From: rwong@beach.csulb.edu (Robie Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: NEW WWF WORLD CHAMPION
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:15:05 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach


According to a promo here in L.A., the next WWF card is scheduled for November
14 (I believe) and the main event is to have WWF Heavyweight Champ Ric Flair
defend the title against a face (I think it's the Warrior, but don't count me
on it). 

Then again, I wasn't really paying attention.

In homage to the Great Urn,


The Grand Pooh-bah


	** "Oh, I'm going to blow up the earth...isn't that lovely?" 
	    --Marvin Martian  **
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:10:43 EDT
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: The Terminator & The U.W.F.

What happened to the Terminator?  Actually, there were two Terminators..
one got crushed in a hydraulic press and the other was lowered into a
lake of molten metal.  :-)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: How to make the WWF better (10 ways if possible)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:35:52 GMT

In article <Bvt13A.8M4@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>
>  I think Owen's still in my good books.  ;-)

Not as good as Los Brazos!  (that little butterball Brazo de Plata
is amazing! Even if he is a crybaby!  ;-)

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