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From: cew@med.unc.edu (Cathryn W. Chiesa)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: No morning sickness second time around
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:40:30 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: cew@pelham

Ok, call me crazy but I am worried that I don't have morning
sickness with the second one.  Three years ago I spend the
first trimester extremely nauseated, but not throwing up all
the time.  So far, at week six I only have a little queasiness
in the morning.  Anyone else find the did not have it the 
second time.  My OB said the nausea means all the hormones
are at the right level.  I do feel extremely tired this
time which I did not have the first time.  I am probably
the only person in the world to worry about not having
morning sickness!!!!!  I just need a little reassurance,
my first pregnancy was so easy I am afraid I used up all
my luck and this one will not be so easy.  Also, I am 41
and a little nervous about that.  Thanks for listening, I
have not gone "public" yet, so none of my visible friends
can provide any reasurrance :-).

Cathryn W. Chiesa
cew@med.unc.edu
From: judyd@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Judy E. Drake)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: "Missing out" (was. re:  Justin...)
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:44:15 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <eaa-010992102358@smac-eaa.doc.ic.ac.uk> eaa@doc.ic.ac.uk (Liz Attree) writes:
>
>So many people say there is nothing more fulfilling than having a vaginal
>birth and pushing your baby out in to the world...
>Or is it really that important?  

NO!!

>Isn't having the child in your arms afterwards fulfilling enough, however they
>made their entry into the world?  

YES!!
 
>Anyone have any thoughts on this?

The above are mine in a nutshell.

I've pushed two kids out and couldn't care less about the hour total I
spent in that particular activity.  To me it felt like the proverbial
bowling-ball bowel movement both times.  How fulfilling do you imagine 
_that_ feeling could possibly be?

Seeing my little angels asleep at night and hugging them when I come
home from work every day and watching their senses of humor develop and
getting excited over their every accomplishment and thinking that my
husband and I CREATED this, now THAT'S fulfilling.

Judy Drake
From: kathyj@pyramid.COM (Kathy Johnson )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Baby's Last Name
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:59:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California

In article <92238.46271.L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>, L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
|> The child's birth certificate will carry the names of both parents,
|> if known.  The child can be given any name you wish.  It may be
|> yours, someone else's, or a name you have never heard before. You
|> and your child may later face questions about adoption, etc. and
|> may have to produce a birth certificate on some occasions when
|> a more conventional approach would make this unnecessary. Assuming,
|> as seems safe, that you and the child's father eventually marry,
|> and you have given the child his name, the worst thing that will
|> happen is that people will assume that you and the father married
|> before you actually did.
|> a. moore
But check your local laws.  Some states/countries have laws regarding naming
children.  In Texas for example, you must have the fathers permission to give the
child the same last name as the father.
-- 
Lost:  One clever .sig file.  Short, witty and sweet.  Reward.
       Does not bite.

       kathyj@pyramid.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: christi@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Christine L Hilton)
Subject: Re: Morning siiiiicccccckkkknesssssss.......ulp. ulp
Keywords: nasuea, sick, barf!
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:34:09 GMT

tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner) writes:

>In article <21962@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL>, lev@ipxed5.nswses.navy.mil (Lloyd E Vancil) writes:
>|> 
>|> for my friend sandra.....
>|> 
>|> Does anyone out there have a remedy for morning
>|> sickness other than post partum?
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 
>|> help please!
>|> 
>|> 

>You might try the wrist bands that people use when sailing to
>avoid sea sickness.  I've been looking all around for them,
>but you can probably purchase them at a store that sells
>sailing equipment.

I've heard that these work differently for different people as far as
motion sickness goes, but they didn't work for my morning sickness.  I was
willing to try ANYTHING and I bought these at a drug store for $10 with
a positive attitude.   No help whatsoever.  It might help if you're driving
in a car a lot, which tends to aggravate the morning sickness.

Christine Hilton,  Mom to Alixandra, 1yr. and ??? -4mo.
From: jean@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jean Jasinski)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:46:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Tax-deductible Childcare Expenses?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

Judy,

The second spouse must be a student, looking for a job and therefore in
need of daycare, or employed.  Stay-at-home parents do not qualify for the
either the tax credit or the DCA.

Jean Jasinski
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: stanzi@media.mit.edu (Constance "Stanzi" Royden)
Subject: Re: Help with words to _Puff the Magic Dragon_
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:22:07 GMT

In article <16412@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:
>
>Puff, the Magic Dragon
>
>by Peter, Paul and Mary (I think Paul Stookey wrote it)
>
>
>
>Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea,
>And frolicked in the autumn mist
>In a land called Honalee.
>Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal Puff.
>He brought him strings and sealing wax,
>And other fancy stuff.
>
etc...

My husband and I honeymooned in Hanalei, Hawaii (on the island of Kawai).
There is a mountain there that looks remarkably like a dragon (if you
use a little imagination).  We were told by the local tour guide that
this mountain was the inspiration for the song "Puff the Magic Dragon".
It certainly sounds plausible--Hanalei and Honalee certainly do sound
alike.  Does anyone know for sure if this story is true?

--Stanzi



Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mwyllie@at4cad.intel.com (Mary Wyllie)
Subject: Words to Puff the Magic Dragon
Originator: mwyllie@at4cad
Organization: intel
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:35:38 GMT

A little while ago, someone posted the words to Puff the Magic Dragon, and
I'm afraid I missed saving them.  Could someone please email them to me?

Thanks.

Mary
mwyllie@at4cad.intel.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hovan@cbnews.cb.att.com (patricia.a.thomas)
Subject: Eczema patches
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:41:31 GMT
Keywords: eczema

We have a one year old son who has begun to have a patch of eczena on his cheek.
Our pediatrician says it is common in fair-haired children and don't be too
concerned.  He also has very bad hayfever and is being treated for that.
She (our ped.) says the antihistimines he is taking will help relieve
any itching he has.  In addition, I have been using a hydrocodisone cream.

But it isn't getting any better!!!  There are times of the day when it is brightred. Other times it is less noticible.  But he heas such beautiful clear
skin otherwise, that it really upets us to have this spot on his cheek.

has anyone out there had any experience with eczema/skin allergies?  What
did you do?  Should we go to a dermatologist and not "beleive" our
pediatrician?  BTW, our pharmacist confrimed what our doctor said.

HELP!!

Pat Thomas
From: anvick@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Janet Anvick)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:40:51 GMT
Subject: Re: 14 month old who always wants to be held
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

If you want to hold him but can't because he is getting to heavy, I would like 
to suggest using a backpack.  I used to put Keith in a backpack so I could 
have my hands free to do chores, ie wash dishes, cut vegetables, etc.  He
enjoyed the closeness and liked the view from being high up.  I can under-
stand how you feel.  It seemed like Keith wanted to be constantly held. 
But I was lucky in that Keith was/is a light weight.  Keith will turn three
on Wednesday, 8-26.  He still enjoys being held but no way near as much.

Janet Anvick, Cupertino, CA.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:17:17 EDT
From: Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: You know you're a parent ....

In article <1992Sep3.131333.19807@schbbs.mot.com>, EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary
Beth Northrup) says:
>
>You know you're a parent when:
>
>- you're "doing lunch" with a business colleague (also a new parent)
>and you find yourselves comparing notes on the proper words and gestures
>to "eensy weensy spider".
>

I thought it was the "itsy bitsy spider".

Chris Himes
From: ivy@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Ivy Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:54:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Non-toilet trained toddler in pool
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: misc.kids

Try talking to the local YMCA and see if they have a children's swimming program.
I take my kids to a local pool, and they allow children from tiny infants on 
up.  They will be able to tell you the medical risks.  Personally I don't think
it's as big a deal as you perceive, and you'll be able to come up with a 
solution that works for everyone.  Learning to swim at a very young age often
increases a childs confidence and safety in the water.  Remember they're 
people,too, just shorter!
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: I'm getting too big too fast!
Summary: dr needs to cover all bases
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:14:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

> 
> Anyway, I know it's not the baby. Every woman in my family has been like this. 
> It's not that I want to refuse the ultrasound because there's always the chance
> that something IS wrong so better safe than sorry. But I kind of feel like she's
> not registering what I've been telling her. This whole thing is kind of nerve-
> racking for me. (Actually, I'd be happy if the baby was getting to big because
> at the size I am now I can't imagine what 2.5 more months of growing is going
> to do to me!)

Although you may think the doctor is not listening to you, she probably is,
*BUT* don't forget, the doctor needs to make sure, and cover all bases,
and most importantly, cover her own ass (pardon the expression).  OB/GYNs
are the most sued for malpractice, plus, as you said, better safe than
sorry, for you, the baby, and the doctor.  

Christine
mom-2-b in Jan. '93
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Children & Sex
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:28:22 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

ltaylor@eec.East.Sun.COM (Laura Taylor - Network Operations East) writes:
.) We have
|> talked to her about this, and about incest, and about
|> how it is not okay for children to engage in any kind of
|> sex with anyone in their family.

I think that in the interest of being "open" with one's children,
there's been a tendency recently not to push abstinence and waiting
enough.  We don't want to make children afraid to talk to their
parents, but I know (from personal experience as the child) that too
much openness "do what you need to, be careful, etc." can lead a young
person to think they can/should/ought to have sex at an early age.

There's nothing wrong with extending the idea of not having sex with
anyone in the family to include that sex is _good_ but it's something
that you don't have to rush into--you can wait until you're in college
or married or or someother landmark you're comfortable with
encouraging your child to wait to.  10 years old is awfully young for
sex--with a family member or with a classmate.

As far as your daughter engaging in sex play with an infant is
concerned, I think you need to talk to her about consent to sexual
activity, and that an infant can't consent--whether that infant is a
family member or not.

You may have understated your conversations with your daughter to
avoid flames from those who might say that you're stifling her by
encouraging her to wait to have sex, or you might not have encouraged
her to wait.  I don't know which.  I do encourage you to discuss with
her that it's perfectly normal to wait--I think there's too much
societal pressure too early on children with regards to sex--and you
want to diffuse _that_.

--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
Subject: Re: Johnny-Jump-Ups
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:41:23 CDT

In article <1992Sep2.172615.11990@SSD.intel.com> karinc@ssd.intel.com (Karin Coffee) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.181921.10743@src.honeywell.com> jgelhaus@src.honeywell.com (Jennifer Gelhaus) writes:
>>Since there's been so much debate about walkers lately, I'd be interested
>>in hearing what everyone has to say about Johnny-Jump-Ups. I know people
>>who swear by them, but have also read that they can cause injury to the
>>child's legs if it jumps up then comes down and hits the floor. Any
>>comments?...
>
>We had one, and my son loved it.  We hung it in a wide doorway that was
>between the dining room and the kitchen.  That way he could swing and jump
>while we made dinner, without being underfoot.  I have pictures of him
>sound asleep in it too.  He hated his walker, and never used it much,
>but he loved his Johnny-Jump-Up.
>
We used one for our first kid.  She loved it; we played rock
music and she bounced and danced.  When we had twins 13 months
after Sarah, I thought they would like it, too.  However, a free
roaming toddler can easily turn an infant in a Johnny-Jump-Up
into a pendulum.  We only tried this once.

(results not serious, but scary)

muriel
standard disclaimer
From: mona@scubed.com (Mona Ellis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: birth announcement (easy birth stories)
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:24:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA

Christine's request - 

>...I'll be a first time mom in
>January, and have read and heard my share of horror stories, so
>please do post your "easy time" birth story.
>     Christine
>     mom-2-b in Jan. '93
>

  Well, I have an easy first time labor story for you.  Unfortunatly
  it's not mine.  My 12 hour labor (only about 4 hours of which were
  anymore uncomfortable than cramps) ended in an emergency C-section.

  My friend, who was more nervous and scared than anyone I've
  ever known about her ability to make it through the labor, had
  a very short first labor.  She started having contractions at 10pm.
  At 12am they were regular and about 4 minutes apart.  They live about
  1 hour from the hospital so they decided to go.  By the time they
  got to the hospital she was 7 or 8 cm.  She wanted something for the
  pain, only because she knew it would get worse and she wasn't sure
  she could handle it.  But, she was too far along.  Good thing, because
  at 2 am (4 hours after her labor started her daughter was born).  She
  actually told me 2 weeks later that she know understands why some
  people have 10 kids and that she would get pregnant right away if
  it was financially possible.  Of course I told her that her labor
  and baby were entirly too easy for her to be thinking that way
  so soon.  Being a worrier she is now worried that since the second
  is supposed to come faster than the first they won't make it to
  the hospital in time.  Oh well, it will give her something
  new to worry about next time she is pregnant.  As if a pregnant women
  needs anymore to worry about.

  mona
From: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: preterm labor in second pregnancy
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:23:55 GMT
Reply-To: skejriwa@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Sangita Kejriwal)
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS

In article <1992Aug25.130717.10175@cci632.cci.com> lcw@cci632.cci.com (Lori
Wershing) writes:
>
>Hi, my name is Monica and I am new to the network!
>
>On March 8, 1992 I had my first child, a boy, Patrick. He
>weighed 7 lbs 0oz and, now at 5 1/2 months, he is 15lbs and
>26 inches long.
>
>I had an interesting labor, as I spent the last 8 weeks of
>my pregnancy in bed.  Patrick decided to try to make his debut
>at 30 weeks.  The doctors tried to stop the labor....with
>some success.  Then it was bedrest!
>
>I am curious, what are the chances of this happening on a 
>second pregnancy?  
>
I was advised bedrest at 32 weeks during my first pregnancy to
avoid preterm labor ...At the time I had been working 10-11 hrs.
at work & was on my feet for about 14 hrs. in the day, so I
felt that the preterm labor was due to my long hours.  So, at the
beginning of my second pregnancy, I switched from full time job
to part time job & was working only 16-20 hrs. a week, & at home
also I had a nanny take care of my first boy - so I rested most
of the time ...BUT...in 26th week my OB/GYN foresaw
warnings of preterm labor again & I was back in bed till 37th week!
Good & welcome outcome in botpregnancies was healthy babies,
both born at 38.1 weeks!  All women are different & so is
each pregnancy, so if I was avoiding preterm labor in both my
pregnancies, I would not say that all women who have bedrested
in one pregnancy will be having the same prognosis in all
pregnancies.  
                                        Sangita.
-- 

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****************     Sangita.Kejriwal@WichitaKs.NCR.COM     ****************
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From: lev@ipxed5.nswses.navy.mil (Lloyd E Vancil)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Morning siiiiicccccckkkknesssssss.......ulp. ulp
Summary: remedys please
Keywords: nasuea, sick, barf!
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:35:30 GMT
Organization: NSWSES, Port Hueneme, CA


for my friend sandra.....

Does anyone out there have a remedy for morning
sickness other than post partum?



help please!




--
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From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Help with words to _Puff the Magic Dragon_
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:38:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Novell Inc.,  Austin, Texas

In article <1992Aug28.190328.26810@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>In article <16412@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie) writes:
>>
>>Puff, the Magic Dragon
>>by Peter, Paul and Mary (I think Paul Stookey wrote it)
>>
>
[lyrics deleted]
>
>When I was in high school, deep in the early 70's, an English
>teacher told us that song was drug-related.  Figure?
>
>-Nance

And at the last Peter Paul & Mary concert I went to (1990)
the author of the song (Paul Stookey - sp - ) said "no the
song was NOT drug related....now you know the truth from
the Dragons father!"  It was simply about the loss of 
child hood....that's all.

M'Linda


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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Sean M. Myers)
Subject: Re: You know you're a parent ....
Reply-To: smmyers@PacBell.COM (Sean M. Myers)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:22:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.130708.23267@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> joefw@eosdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joe Fulson-Woytek writes:
>In article <92247.151717CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> Chris Himes <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.131333.19807@schbbs.mot.com>, EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary
>>Beth Northrup) says:
>>>to "eensy weensy spider".
>>>
>>
>>I thought it was the "itsy bitsy spider".
>
>I have  been a firm believer that it was eensy weensy, while my wife is a
>firm believer that it was itsy bitsy.  So whenever we heard a version being
>sung, one of us would proudly note that it was the "correct" version.  I think
>there are as many correct versions (eensy weensy) as incorrect ones (itsy 
>bitsy).           ^^^^^^^                            ^^^^^^^^^
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     Isn't this what you meant ;-)


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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Baby Cries in Carseat
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:48:11 GMT
	<1992Aug25.192546.5029@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Organization: Sylvan Associates

It is most certain that the baby should be in his/her carseat whenever
the car is moving.

I sat in the backseat (buckled) with a fussy baby, letting her suck on
my finger for many months/miles. I once traveled for some miles with a
baby in my lap, paranoid all the way. Never again.

Babies that hate carrides seem to outgrow it eventually. I strongly
suggest she try sitting the back of the car, and just refuse to take
the baby out of the seat while the car is moving. Travel prepared with
bottles of water, toys, books, and plan on trying to entertain the
baby as much as you can. And don't plan any long car trips until the
baby is over the phase, unless you want to go crazy.

Driving with both my kids screaming (no other adults there) has almost
caused me to have an accident a couple of times, so I am very
sympathetic. I pull over when things get too bad.

-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89 &
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
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