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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: 883->1200 (was Re: Sportster availability.)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:57:41 GMT

spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:

>The barrels change shape slightly when the head is torqued down. To bore
>them correctly, you need a jig that applies the same type of compression
>to the barrel.

	When building mildly high-performance automotive engines, as well
as any engine you care to have in tolerance, this is a must.  Most good
speed shops will have jigs on hand for most common automotive motors and
even some of the more common motorcycle motors.  Ask your local MC shop
if they do this work themselves -- chances are they send it out to a speed
shop.  Now call the speed shop, and ask them the price for an overbore,
then ask for the price of an overbore with the jig in place.  If they
answer, "We always bore with a jig on -- the price is the same" you can
take your motor there.

	If, one the other hand, you just want to rebuild that Honda XL175
motor and don't give a darn, don't bother.  Life expectancy before the
next rebore is down significantly, and so is compression, but if you
don't care there's no need to pay extra to do it right.  Had I known
I would sell my prior cage, you can bet $300 in machine work to the
block, crank, and heads would be financing a newer motorcycle.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: henry@ilx057 (David Henry)
Subject: Sokol
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 09:32:28 GMT
Organization: Intel
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Keywords: Sokol, Poland

I am restoring a Sokol. This bike is allegedly a copy of a Harley Davidson
and was made in Poland in 1935
It has a 995cc V twin engine, gear shift on the gas tank. 
Any info, ancedotes, stories about this bike gratefully received.

Aplogies to those of you who've seen this before. Posting news from my site
is unpredictable so I am foreced to repeat.
--
David Henry, Intel Corporation, Haifa, ISRAEL
henry@iil.intel.com phone +972 435 5019 fax +972 435 5674
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From: terryg@stortek.com (terry gottehrer)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:52:01 GMT
Organization: StorageTek

Steve Garnier (steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: (All bullshit deleted for everyone's benefit)

Steve,

Get a job!!

Terry
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: 883->1200 (was Re: Sportster availability.)
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:56:09 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug25.144633.21539@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:

| 2)  I have a brochure on the '93 Harley models with me at work today.  The
|   bore on the 883 is 3.00", and the bore on the 1200 is 3.498".  Can the 
|   883 sleeves be safely bored out an extra 1/2"?

  If your numbers are correct, I certainly wouldn't do it. And I'm not
sure that the cost of the machine work is going to be much less than the
difference between what you pay for a set of new barrels and what you
get for a set of good used 883 barrels.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
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From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:07:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.235201.4170@stortek.com> 
terryg@stortek.com (terry gottehrer) writes:
>Steve Garnier (steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>> (All bullshit deleted for everyone's benefit)
>
>Steve,
>Get a job!!
>Terry

Terry,
Do you mean that you want me to get a "real" job, and 
lower my productivity to your *pitiful* output level?
Why should I place myself in a position like yours,
where there is an apparent handicap on wit?

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
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From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:29:15 GMT

In article <92241.095257ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> 
ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (Mike Mychalkiw) incoherently blathers:
>OK BUD,
>I've pretty well have had up to here with you. My co-workers also. They
>did not want to reply to you as what was going on did not concern you, and
>have recently given me some shit for this. This witch hunt is the same as your
>Salem incident, suspects were burned. Inocent until proven guilty. BITE ME! I
>would use stronger language but, I refrain from such use. If you did not want
>RMH you could have voted NO, and since it is active YOU do not have to read it
>or read AMH, or live. It is your choice. Leave the Harley group for Harley talk
>be it about owning, buying etc. I, like some of my netters do not mind the
>questions from the non Harley people as long as it is related to Harley stuff.
>So pack your bags and leave these news groups alone.

Dearest Dufus Dweebus,

Apparently you continue to fail in your cognitive efforts.

Why are your `coworkers' upset with this continuing exchange of pleasantries
within rec.motorcycles and alt.motorcycles.harley?  And why should `they' be
upset at receiving polite email requesting that `they' identify `themselves'?
And why are `they' the only `people' to not respond to my email?  And why do 
you continue to refuse to identify `them'?

It is *you* who stated in posted articles that `they' "don't read 
rec.motorcycles, but `they' voted because [you] asked `them' to."  Is it 
possible that `they' are angry with this continuing exchange, because `they'
*do* read rec.motorcycles and/or alt.motorcycles.harley?  Is it indeed 
possible that
  ACAD8025@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca "Problem Reporting, A" 
  ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca Mike Mychalkiw 
  ADVI8721@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca advisor's utility disk 
are all manifestations of the same individual?  

Dufus, do you suffer from a multiple personality disorder?  I again ask, 
would you please identify Mr. "Problem Reporting, A" and 
Ms. "advisor's utility disk"?  I don't see why this is such a difficult task
to perform, unless, of course, you have something to conceal.

Furthermore, Dearest Dufus Dweebus, several times during the RMH CFV, I 
stated that "if RMH were to form, I would read it."  I have as much "right"
to read any Harley newsgroup as "ewe" do.  Why do you insist that I not post
to a newsgroup, and then continue to crosspost your replies, while not
modifying the "Followup-To:" field?  Again, is this yet another cognitive
malfunction on your part?

And again, Dearest Dufus Dweebus, you may consider yourself very badly bitten.

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: 883->1200 (was Re: Sportster availability.)
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:31:11 GMT

--
|>In article <1992Aug25.144633.21539@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
|>tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:
|>
|>| 2)  I have a brochure on the '93 Harley models with me at work today.  The
|>|   bore on the 883 is 3.00", and the bore on the 1200 is 3.498".  Can the 
|>|   883 sleeves be safely bored out an extra 1/2"?

The 1200 jugs are 883 jugs bored to 3.498", at the factory. Evo Sportster jugs
are Evo Sportster jugs. Have no fear in boring your 883 jugs, HD does the same
thing to create the 1200 Sportster.

CdH
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:03:48 GMT
Expires: 30 Sep 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Aug31.235201.4170@stortek.com> terryg@stortek.com (terry gottehrer) writes:
>Steve Garnier (steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>: (All bullshit deleted for everyone's benefit)
>
>Steve,
>
>Get a job!!
>

Terry!  Steve doesn't need me to run interference for him but he HAS a 
job and I think he performs it quite ably!  Crawl back into your
hole and hibernate!


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:58:35 GMT
Distribution: USA
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!! GIVE US A BREAK!!!!!!!

Take this $hit to PRIVATE email, and leave us alone!!!!!

Eddie

Don't tread on me..........................................I bite
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From: weiss@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Women riders - what I think...
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:20:57 GMT
Reply-To: weiss
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory-on-the-Potomac, Washington, DC, US of A
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <8365@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone) writes...
>lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker) writes:
> 
>>Perhaps you'd like to know what happens (socially) to women who ride
>>motorbikes...We end up single and miserable,
>>because all the guys think of us as buddies, and therefore don't even
>>consider the idea of forming Relationships with us.

I certainly WOULD think of having a relationship with a BikerBabe (tm)!
Motorcycling is one sport that definitely needs more women.

>>They all seem to
>>want brainless bimbos for girlfriends.

I am REALLY tired of hearing this bullshit!!!

>In my experience, blokes who are into bikes don;t tend to have anything
>else going for them.  Somewhere out there is a literate intelligent
>single male who rides bikes, but damned if I can find him!

Not only is that a terribly insulting thing to say, but it is incorrect!  
According to surveys conducted by the American Motorcyclist Association, 
among others, male motorcyclists are typically college-educated.  As a 
literate, intelligent, college-educated, single male, I find your 
generalization offensive.

> 
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Zebee Johnstone  DoD #605   | You don't own an Italian motorcycle 
>     Adelaide City Council       |  - you merely have the privilege 
>    zebee@itd.adelaide.edu.au    |    of paying its bills.... 

_____________________________________________________________________________
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From: poirot@widget.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: 883->1200 (was Re: Sportster availability.)
Date: 26 Aug 1992 18:04:34 GMT
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center

In article <1992Aug26.125609.29809@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.144633.21539@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:
>
>| 2)  I have a brochure on the '93 Harley models with me at work today.  The
>|   bore on the 883 is 3.00", and the bore on the 1200 is 3.498".  Can the 
>|   883 sleeves be safely bored out an extra 1/2"?
>
>  If your numbers are correct, I certainly wouldn't do it. And I'm not
>sure that the cost of the machine work is going to be much less than the
>difference between what you pay for a set of new barrels and what you
>get for a set of good used 883 barrels.
>


And you are going to have to buy a new set of pistons anyway...
-- 
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NASA JSC                "The mind is a terrible thing."
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From: zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Women riders - what do you think?
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:20:02 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker) writes:

>Is this a "gee, I'd like to find a woman who rides motorcycles to go
>out with" thread?

>Perhaps you'd like to know what happens (socially) to women who ride
>motorbikes, in particular those who make a hobby of it and take it
>seriously.

>You wouldn't? I'll tell you anyway.  We end up single and miserable,
>because all the guys think of us as buddies, and therefore don't even
>consider the idea of forming Relationships with us.  They all seem to
>want brainless bimbos for girlfriends.

In my experience, blokes who are into bikes don;t tend to have anything
else going for them.  Somewhere out there is a literate intelligent
single male who rides bikes, but damned if I can find him!

-- 
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     Zebee Johnstone  DoD #605   | You don't own an Italian motorcycle 
     Adelaide City Council       |  - you merely have the privilege 
    zebee@itd.adelaide.edu.au    |    of paying its bills....
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Police Bikes
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:59:28 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <24418@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>Do Police departments sell their old Harleys? Would this be somewhere
>to get a good well maintained used bike?  I would expect they would have
>high mileage, but mostly highway cruise miles.

If they do, there are usually more police officers wanting to purchase the
retired-from-service bikes than there are bikes at the auctions and I'll bet
they get first crack at purchasing them. Here in Texas, a lot of the police
departments' motorcycle divisions are volunteer and the officers must purchase
their own patrol bikes with the department paying only maintenance costs.
A fellow co-worker who became a police officer provided me with that info.

Neal Howard
neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org
'91 XLH-1200
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Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:50:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.183306.1348@javelin.sim.es.com> 
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
>[Steve's _still_ questing for the holy grail]

Oh, I found _that_ *trinket* a LONG time ago!  :-)

>>I'm not responsible for the level of entertainment you receive from USENET.
>Actually I find it a bit entertaining, in a perverse sort of way. Kind
>of like watching someone sort their sock drawer in their stateroom on
>the Titanic. Amazing attention to detail, but just a little bit pointless.

But, but, but, Blaine!!!  All three pairs of those knee-high socks were 
knitted from extruded 24K gold and platinum wires, for my extremely 
proportional feet!!!  They were given to me by my "coworkers", honest!
And just think of their value, as we tenaciously continue our attempts 
to *exhume* the wreckage!!!  :-)  Who knows how long it may take?...  ;-)

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: most boring guy in the world (was: Re: Ride def...)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:01:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.234534.4082@stortek.com> terryg@stortek.com (terry gottehrer) writes:
     [steve's continuing diatribe about r.m.h vote deleted]

>Are you the most boring guy in the world or what? Get off it already!!

no, *i'm* the most boring guy in the world; steve's just the most boring
guy in north carolina.  

:-) if you need it

obmoto: i changed the oil this weekend, using castrol gtx 20w50 instead of
the usual mobil1 15w50.  after a few days, the tranny sounds the same, revs
seem about the same, but the valves make noticeably more noise for the first
few minutes the bike is started.  i returned the case of castrol in exchange
for some more mobil1.  just another data point.

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
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From: David.Henry@bird.com (David Henry)
Sender: FredMail@bird.com
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: SOKOL
Date: 23 Aug 92  12:13:00 EST

Organization: Intel



I am restoring a 1935 Sokol. This bike was made in Poland and alledged to be
a copy of a Harley of the same era.
It is a
995c--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: grubb@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Gary A. Grubb)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:08:25 GMT
Subject: Lawyer or NOT!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley

I recently was in an accident on my Harley. I teenager turned left in front of
me. He was not cited but the report indicates he failed to yield the right of
way. I busted a front tooth and jammed my jaw pretty good, as well as heavy
bruising and lack of mobility to my right leg. 

The bike suffered front end damage as well as possible frame damage. At this
point I am dealing directly with AAA. They are the other drivers insurance
carrier. I have had conversations with the Lester group of lawyers and John
Riley. The insurance as best as I can tell is a minimum policy. 

Would anyone care to offer advice based upon experience about whether to wing
it alone against the insurance company or give a third to a lawyer?

Gary Grubb
Hewlett Packard
Model Shop
San Jose, Ca.

gary@hpoemta.sj.hp.com

Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost)
Subject: Re: Women riders - what do you think?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:09:19 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <2295@gandalf.intel.com> davek@scooter.intel.com (Dave Karikas) writes:

>In article <Stafford-180892162245@134.29.65.250>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Stafford) writes:

>|> IMHO, there just are not enough women bikers.  Especially single
>|> ones.  
>|> 

>I wonder why this is? It's a great way to meet people and IMHO is better
>than a singles bar. I wish there were more women riders out there.

Well, I agree! My friend's wife rides with us. She has a '74 74 like mine.
My girlfriend will pack, but won't ride.

Another friend has a different philosophy, (also, the brother of first
mentioned friend). He say's it's a bad situation because now he "can't"
get away from here when he wants. I see the point, but I don't agree with
it. I wish more women rode. For one, I prefer to ride solo.
If you want to ride without her, just tell her you'd like to get away for
awhile. What's the big deal? If she doesn't understand that, chances are
the relationship is doomed anyway.

Ride free, and be truthful about it. If they don't understand, chances are
they never will!!!

Matthew

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From: ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (Mike Mychalkiw)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ride definition, Softail vibration, RMH vote.
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:52:57 GMT
 <1992Aug27.190535.1456@ncsu.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute

OK BUD,

I've pretty well have had up to here with you. My co-workers also. They
did not want to reply to you as what was going on did not concern you, and
have recently given me some shit for this. This witch hunt is the same as your
Salem incident, suspects were burned. Inocent until proven guilty. BITE ME! I
would use stronger language but, I refrain from such use. If you did not want
RMH you could have voted NO, and since it is active YOU do not have to read it
or read AMH, or live. It is your choice. Leave the Harley group for Harley talk
be it about owning, buying etc. I, like some of my netters do not mind the
questions from the non Harley people as long as it is related to Harley stuff.
So pack your bags and leave these news groups alone.
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