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From: bub@theus.rain.com (Barbara Theus)
Subject: FileMaker Pro -question on page boundaries
Fcc: outbox
Organization: The Theus Group; Sherwood, OR
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:35:38 GMT

I have created a layout with multiple sub-summaries and have marked each
part definition that I do not want to break the part across page
boundaries.  This doesn't work the way I expect it to.

Part Definitions:

   Header
   Sub-Summary by Stock  	(no page boundary breaks)
   Sub-Summary by Names  	(no page boundary breaks)
   Footer

I then sort by Stock first, Names second.  My goal is to have a list
of all Names under each Stock.  The list I get is great.  However, I
can't seem to prevent the page boundary breaks.

My output will look something like this:

	Page 1			Page 2

	Stock1			  name d
	  name a		  name e
	  name b		Stock3
	Stock2			  name a
	  name a		  ...
	  name b
	  name c

What I'm trying to do is to prevent the list of names from wrapping to
the next page.  If there are too many names, I want a page break before
typing the Stock.  What I expected was a page break before the Stock
(Stock2 in above example), so that all names associated with that will
fall on the same page.  My database has 1-8 names per stock. 

Any ideas how to get FileMaker Pro to output this in the format I want?
Any and all suggestions are appreciated.  TIA.
-Barbara Theus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: flui@fraser.sfu.ca (Francis Wai Gee Lui)
Subject: HD backup software
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:24:05 GMT


What's everyone's favourite HD backup software?

  __   __
 / /\ /_/\__   Francis Lui
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\ \  / \ \  /
 \ \ \  \_\/   You know you're a techno-dweeb when
  \_\/         floppy drive applies more to your love life,
               and hard drive to your machines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: coronell@athena.mit.edu (Dan Coronell)
Subject: System 7 Woes
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:47:27 GMT

	We have a Mac IIsi and a Mac SE30 connected to an HP LaserJet III 
printer via AppleTalk. No problems running both on system 6. Upon converting 
the IIsi to system 7.0 w/Tuneup 1.1.1, a number of problems related to 
printing have occurred. With background printing turned ON, a message is 
displayed which states that a printer needs to be chosen from Chooser. 
Doing this (choosing the LaserJet driver in Chooser) has no effect, same 
message appears. With background printing turned OFF, printing is possible 
sometimes while occasionally we are prompted to load a valid LaserJet Prep 
file despite the fact that one is in the System Folder. What could be the 
problem? This is a very busy printer (many users) and I would be most 
grateful if someone could help us via e-mail or posting to this newsgroup.

					Dan Coronell
					coronell@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: gukgn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Kim Guan Ng)
Subject: AutoDoubler & Norton Filesaver slows Mac down?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:51:29 GMT

I currently have Norton Filesaver installed on my Mac and am considering
buying Autodoubler as I am running out of HD space (who isn't :-) ).
However, I remember glancing through articles fairly recently saying
that AD slows down any machine which needs to frequently write temporary
files such as Filesaver. Is this true, because if the slowdown is great,
I may want to reconsider buying AD (or give up Filesaver).

What are your experiences on this matter? Any input on the subject will
be gratefully received.

Regards,
-Kim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hy7919@thor.albany.edu (HONG-HSEE YUAN)
Subject:  Word 5.0 problem :grammar Checker &Powerbook 170 w/ 8mb-->Out of memory
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:55:19 GMT

Could somebody out there show me the way please...
As stated in the title, I got an "OUT OF MEMORY" everytime I try to use the 
Grammar Checker. By the way, this won't happen in an LC w/ 10mb, but how can i
use "only" Grammar checker without checking spelling.
Many Many thanks in advance!!

--Hong---

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash)
Subject: TouchBase vs. Dynodex
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 02:06:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In my search for an address-book manager, I've narrowed it down to the above
two programs.  Does anyone out there have strong feelings about either one?
As a guideline, I'm most interested in performing various sorts on the items
and printing out listings to fit in my DayRunner.  Which of these might
handle this best?

Derek
-- 
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Technical Writer/Mac Savant               You got a problem with that?"
BASYS Automation Systems, Inc.    -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 
Sunnyvale, CA  408-SEX-LLAMA      DISCLAIMER:  I am not a DEC subsidiary.
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SpinD.FKey problems...
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:51:20 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:

}tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding) writes:

}>Hey ho!
}>I've just downloaded SpinD - the function key that allows me to spin
}>down my PB disk at will.  I also downloaded FKey Manager 3.0 to install
}>the FKEY, but it doesn't recognize the file. 
}>ANy ideas, anyone?
}>[N.B. the documentation is very system 6-oriented and it may be that the
}>app is not 7-savvy]

}   It could be that the FKEY you DL'd is just a ResEdit file with the FKEY in
}it. That's why the Manager can't recognize it. Use ResEdit and don't bother

If I remember correctly from when I got SpinD, you're right.  It just comes
in a ResEdit file, and you have to paste it into the system yourself.  Once
there, you can use FKey Manager to renumber it if you want.

By the way, it is a wonderful FKey, I highly recommend it to all PowerBook
users.  Along with PowerSleep, you get easy control over your PB.

--James Preston
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Writing screenplays
Date: 12 Aug 1992 12:42:45 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu



	I tried to get the best answer to exactly your questions for
	a writer-friend of mine some 2 years back.  I got her started
	on WriteNow 2.0 (which left much to be desired) and found a
	niche-program called cineWriter which is "smart" about all that
	inane formatting that scriptwriters need to to to get their
	scripts read ....

	I still don't know what the best answer is and recently bought
	her the latest copy of MacWrite ][  with which I hope she can
	find a way to feel comfortable ...
-- 
  werner@cs.utexas.edu |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | werner@UTXVM.bitnet

              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
From: wade@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: What is "compact virtual 3.0" ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:51:29 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <!f4m_4k.derek@netcom.com>, derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash) writes...

>In article <HEYES.92Aug11130300@dadev.cebaf.gov> heyes@dadev.cebaf.gov (Graham Heyes) writes:
>>I am thinking about buying a 68030 accelerator card,
>>the company selling it are tryining to sell sell me
>>"compact virtual 3.0" for $79 as part of the package.
>>They tell me that it costs over $100 when bought
>>seperately. 
>>
>>What is "compact virtual 3.0" ? 
>>
>>I thought virtual memory was part of system 7.0 and
>>didn't need any third party software to work.
>>
>(The following is just guesswork, but it's probably true :-)
>I'll bet "Compact Virtual" is the new version of Virtual from Connectix,
>updated to run under Sys 7.  Why would you want this?  Well, as I heard:
>*  You can run it in a "compact" mode, where the disk buffer is only as
>big as [virtual mem - real mem] and performance is comparable to Sys 7.
>*  or, you can use the normal mode, which takes up lots of disk space but
>is faster than the virtual memory feature in Sys 7.
>So, if either of these options sound appealing, I'd go for it.  I ran
>Virtual under System 6 and thought it was great.
> 

Nice guess, but not quite on the mark.  Compact Virtual 3.0 is a version of
Virtual that will work with various 3rd party 68030 accelerators.  System 7
virtual memory will NOT work with these accelerators even though they use
the 68030 cpu, so if you want to use virtual memory, you need to buy
Compact Virtual 3.0 (which is different from Virtual 3.0, the Virtual for
the modular macs).  I purchased a Total Systems Gemini '030 for the SE and
got Virtual 2.0 for free.  When Compact Virtual 3.0 came out I upgraded for
free.  Version 3.0 is required if you are going to use System 7.

Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Norton 2.0 Special Price?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Aug07.163708.22063@mixcom.com> John.Hirsch@mixcom.mixcom.com (John.Hirsch) writes:
>   Hi. Some time ago, I read a message on here that said that there was a
>special price of the upgrade to Norton Utilities 2.0 for users of version
>1.1.  It was less that the $39.00 price that was published - something like
>$29 or $20.  Some people here even claimed they received NUM for this
>special price.

The "special" $29.00 upgrade price was for those users of Norton Utilities
who had "upgraded" to v1.1.  Since there was alot of bad feeling about
that (v1.1 *only* had system 7 support on it), Symantec decided to
subtract the $10.00 upgrade price for v1.1 users.

I got mine for $29.00.  When I ordered the upgrade, I *specifically*
mentioned that I was upgrading from v1.1, and I verified the price
before giving out my credit card number.

Since you have already ordered and received yours, I'm not sure what
you can do now.  I'm assuming you upgraded from v1.1...

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From: Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: CPUseless???
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:15:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0d55@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Aug20.054101.17922@morrow.stanford.edu>
HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) writes:

> The clock disappears in Excel 4.0 and Word 5.0, among others. Those
> applications are my bread and butter. I can't see the clock now,
> either, in my terminal program.

I just went back and checked Word 5 and Excel 3 (I don't have 4.0) and
they work fine (e.g. the clock is visible). I admit that I don't use
the dialog or menu keys, but the parts that I DO use seem to work fine.
I wonder if we have some kind of INIT conflict here?


Bob Gross
bob.gross@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tacketta@oregon.uoregon.edu (Tackett Austin)
Subject: Re: Grammer Checkers:which one?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Aug 1992 18:46 PDT  

In article <mks-120892154734@b4gdy03.gvg.tek.com>, mks@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Mark Sanders) writes...
>I need to buy a grammer checker.  I'm looking for recommendations.
>I use MacWrite II on a classic II, system 7.  I need it for my
>Masters classes and my kids need something for school papers.
>Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> 
>Thanks,
>Mark

I use Correct Grammar 3.0 and love it. It has a 135,000 word dictionary, and
catches all of my typos and stupid grammar mistakes. It is fairly inexpensive
($50?). If you have enough RAM, you can run your word processor and CG at the
same time to edit and check. It will also check the contents of the clipboard.

The only part I don't like, is Wordstar's support. It sucks, to be blunt. When
it was owned by LifeTree, there was an 800 number for tech support, now there
is a toll charge (unless you live in L.A.) and hold lasts a _long_ time. 

When I upgraded to MS Word 5.0, CG wouldn't open the files. I called tech
support, I got someone who knew *NOTHING* about the Mac or Mac vocabulary. She
didn't know the difference between launching an application and opening a
document. She did *nothing* for me, but said they would send me a 'special
filter' to open Word 5.0 documents.  We'll see.

I suport the product, not the company.

Tackett Austin
University of Oregon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: khanh kim, nguyen <knguyen@emr.ca>
Subject: Re: PS files - too big...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6B144ED76042259@knguyen.emr.ca>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:09:33 GMT
Organization: emr
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:22:05 GMT

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<1992Aug11.032203.12426@emr1.emr.ca>
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: What is Move and Rename?
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:14:54 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug10.183519.8163@vax.oxford.ac.uk> banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>When in Word (ver. 5.00, running on an SE/30 with System 7) I go to
>the open dialog box, I sometimes see a folder on my hard disk called
>Move and Rename (it actually has two little symbol boxes in front of the 
>name but I can't do them here).
>there is any fix to stop it being created (or to stop it being seen by
>Word) I'd be interested, though it is hardly a problem.
>
With Word 5 in the open dialog box there is a popup menu titled:
"List Files of Type:" -- it sounds like you have it set to "All
files" which would allow you to see all invisible files, set it to
"readable files" and your Move and Rename Folder (and other
invisible files) will not be seen in Word's open dialog any more.

-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
From: Dantz Development Corporation <dantz@igc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 12 Aug 92 09:36 PDT
Subject: Re: Problem with Retrospect Remote
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug6.232659.14171@cs.su.oz.a:1827431174:cdp:1533900022:000:964
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dantz    Aug 12 09:36:00 1992



Howard:

I'm sorry you have had trouble getting through to us before. 
We have a large staff and many people are helped when they call 
in without having to leave a message. When the call load is high 
some callers are forced to leave a message. We then call people 
back in the order their calls were received. 

We can also be reached on e-mail at:

DANTZ.TECH@AppleLink.Apple.com or AppleLink: DANTZ.TECH 

if you'd ever prefer that means of communication.

I'm also sorry that Joanne was not able to pinpoint your problem 
accurately. We had never before heard of this problem with an 
NFS Server. Can you tell me what server software you were using? 
Thanks. 

If you have any further questions please let me know.

Regards,

Walt Hays                  /  CIS:        73367,2416
Dantz Development Corp.    /  Connect:    DANTZ, AOL: DANTZDEV
1400 Shattuck Ave, Suite 1 /  AppleLink:  D0011
Berkeley, CA 94709, USA    /  Internet:   D0011@applelink.apple.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: alex@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Alex Pournelle)
Subject: Re: Comments on Miracle Piano teaching system
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:48:53 GMT

wright@aelle.cs.odu.edu (GENTLEMAN) writes:

>In article <56961@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> dckim@mentor.cc.purdue.edu writes:

>	   Hello everybody....

>	     Has anyone used Miracle, one of those piano teaching system, for
>	     Macintosh. I am thinking of getting one

>Sure!  Invest your money into a private piano teacher if you want to
>learn how to play the piano.  I love electronic music as much as
>the next guy, but it is absurd to believe that a simple music
>software program can answer a user's every need!!!!

>Electronic music should supplement musical activities, not supplant!!!

The man needs to borrow a handle and a hat--one to jump from, the other
to speak through.  Or at least a stress pill.  Calm, calm....

If you want to learn something about playing the piano, have a
not-embarrassingly-bad MIDI (yes, real MIDI) keyboard, and not spend a
big bundle, the Miracle system is well worth a look.  It'll teach very
patiently, isn't ever late for a lesson, and costs a darn sight less
than 6 months of piano rental or 2 months of piano lessons.

No one would accuse The Software Toolworks of attempting to remove
typing teachers from the workforce with Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, or
de-employing music teachers with The Miracle.  They're just very good
products for learning without spending giant wads o' cash.

The "electronic music" aspect--no one would accuse The Miracle of
sounding like a Steinway & Sons, nor would you accuse the "foot pedal"
of having any touch.  But do you need those things to teach a kid (or
yourself) something about keyboards?

No one is trying to shut down the conservatories and music schools with
this thing: they're making piano teaching more available and affordable.

	Alex



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From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: NewsWatcher1.3bx...Now I have to find another news reader!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:36:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Northwestern University

In article <1992Aug12.165509.6776@ludd.luth.se>, matti@my.sm.luth.se (Matti
Larborn) wrote:
> By the way, where can i find Newswatcher to be able to try it out. People
> claim it's fast....

Anonymous FTP to ftp.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.113.52], directory
pub/newswatcher.

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
From: tbaker@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Tom Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: survey software sought (seriously)
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:28:57 -0700
Organization: Sierra Systems

I am looking for a survey analysis package, ie. software that performs
questionaire result storage and processing. I need it to do graphs etc
and also allow ad-hoc queries etc. The package must be extensible,
possibly through a data-export function. AppleEvents capability would
also be a plus.

Would people knowing of such a package please mail a description to me
please, including name of package, name of company and company phone
number. I will post the results.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Comments on Miracle Piano teaching system
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:14:24 EDT

In article <WRIGHT.92Aug16133202@aelle.cs.odu.edu> wright@aelle.cs.odu.edu (GENTLEMAN) writes:
>
>	     Has anyone used Miracle, one of those piano teaching system, for
>	     Macintosh. I am thinking of getting me one but I would like
>	     to hear other comments of it.
>
>
>Sure!  Invest your money into a private piano teacher if you want to
>learn how to play the piano.  I love electronic music as much as
>the next guy, but it is absurd to believe that a simple music
>software program can answer a user's every need!!!!
>
>Electronic music should supplement musical activities, not supplant!!!
>
>[I say these things without ever seeing Miracle Piano.]


I absolutely reject this reasoning.  It is essentially flawed, and smacks
of elitism.

Given that *many* reasonable *casual* musicians are essentially self-taught,
it makes no sense to suggest that the Miracle Piano might not be helpful
for someone who's current interest in music is casual (which I expect is
a valid assumption for many interested in the Miracle Piano), without ever
having seen the system.

What is absurd is the suggestion that the Miracle Piano should be *expected*
to answer every user's every need!

(And I point out that it is highly unlikely that any private piano teacher
could answer every user's every need, either.)

I have not seen the Miracle Piano either, so I have no idea how useful it
is.  In principle, however, I see no reason why such a system should be
inherently incapable of serving many of a user's needs.


By all means, people who are interested in music as more than a casual pursuit
should consider the more traditional alternatives.  And many casual musicians
who aspire to more serious pursuits will find it necessary to use use
traditional techniques to educate themselves.

But none of this suggests that, for many people, an automated system might
not provide the best cost and convenience to price ratio.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tjohnson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd R Johnson)
Subject: Re: Canvas vs MacDraw PRO
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:33:26 GMT

In article <Bstu8D.BJL@hpbs654.boi.hp.com> kmarko@hpbs654.boi.hp.com (Kurt Marko) writes:
>I would take a serious look at Intellidraw from Aldus.  They were
>demo'ing it at Macworld, and claimed it was released, but I haven't
>found anyone who has it in stock yet.

I bought a copy last Friday from our Campus Computer Store. They had
to "run to the dock" to get it, so I assume that it had just come in.
Educational price was $94. I bought it after reviewing all of the
flowcharting applications and finding all of them inadequate for even
the simplest diagram. IntelliDraw gives me what I need: a complete
drawing program with connectors that stay anchored to objects. It also
contains many new related features. IntelliDraw represents a new
generation of drawing programs (at least on the Mac). I think it is
the most significant advance in drawing programs since MacDraw.

A review of Intellidraw is in the 8/3 issue of MacWeek. 

	---Todd

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tomho@microunity.com (Tom Ho)
Subject: 3D plot
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:58:32 GMT

Hi netters:


I am looking for a simple 3D plot program, preferably shareware or PD program.  The program should be able to do shading in the top-view option. I have looked at tcontour program at sumex but (1) it does not load up on my IIci and keeps giving me the error of "application is out of memory". (2) it is more for 4D plotting (ie a 3 component phase diagram...).  I also looked at graph3D but the shading is not very good.

Any pointer on the above program is appreciated.  BTW, we have Transform program from Spyglass which is excellent, but it requires a color monitor.
--
     Tom Ho       tomho@microunity.com       (408) 734-8100