From: balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: Not yet, but we're working on it...
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:33:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.000827.22450@wam.umd.edu>, lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>I sure wish soc.motss could be a more positive influence in my life ...
>
>I am SO tired of reading the deluge of bitchy remarks here.  I'm really tired  
>of it.  I guess if that's what some of you feed off of, then so be it.
[...]
>continuous.catfight.  Just the elitist airs some of us put on is enough to turn  
>plenty of Black or other people of color away because they just don't want to  
>hear White people squawking over who is the best icon and who is more  
>well-known and who should be remembered the longest.

Your argument about "elitist airs" might be arguable, but what does
it matter if any behavior turns away "plenty of Black or other people
of color?"  What matters is that it turns *people* away.  As written,
your statement can mean Whites (people of non-color?) aren't turned
away by elitist airs, or that Blacks and other people of color do
not put on elitist airs.  Both of which are wrong.

>I
>don't want to wade through all the hissy fits just to find a positive,  
>uplifting and productive post that may contain information relevant to a Black  
>man.

I look for relevant information in general.  Usually, information
relevant to a Black man is relevant to most men, and many women
as well.  You have to pick "relevant" information out of all the
posts you read; and only you can determine what is relevant to *you*
as a Black man, but not -all- Black men.

>people.  A newsgroup that allows people to say something stupid once in a while  
>without being relentlessly clobbered into never posting anything ever again.

I get clobbered for not thinking before I post.  Jess, or BBC, or
Mara, or any number of other thinking individuals confont me with their
objections in an honest and open manner.  I've learned a great deal
in the two years I've been on Motss.  One of the best lessons is
how to be an idiot, take a clobbering, and then be less of an idiot.

>because I feel that that's bullshit.  I don't want to get along with you if  
>you, as a White person, think that you're better than me and think that you are  
>doing something for me by "gettin' along" with me.

I usually get along with people because I like them.

>worse.  Last night, I beat up a white boy with a baseball bat because he said  
[story about beating someone up and then blaming his actions on the RA...]

This is the sort of stuff I don't like to see on *any* news group.  
Give the the elitist ranting, icon building, twaddle you so abhor
over this crap.

>I'm not expecting you to patron me exclusively, but if I feel that the only way  
>I can exist here on soc.motss is by never posting anything of value or  
>importance

If the previous story is your idea of "value" or "importance," 
please do not exist on Motss.

> while simultaneously wading through the usual White diatribes, I  
>won't have a very nice attitude when I do.

I do have one rather simple question:  how can you tell who is, and
who is not, a person of color, when all you can see are the electrons
on your screen?  


Shawn, who now returns you to the regularly scheduled twaddle.
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