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From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Subject: [] [] [] Why is the GRAB service greyed out? (Caution: RTF) [] [] []
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 13:31:51 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Keywords: Grab
Reply-To: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
Distribution: usa


Hi:
I was wondering why the submenu in the Grab service is always
greyed out? I checked preferences and they are not disabled.
Here is what it looks like:

 

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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Re: When will NextSTEP 486 be available?
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:40:32 GMT

In article <1itd7vINNri8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claude@cse.ucsc.edu (Claude  
Noshpitz) writes:
> 
> Any word? What will it cost? Has anyone platyed with the betas?
> 
> 				Claude
I'm helping a colleague in my office purchase a 486 PC to run NeXTSTEP in  
color, through our university purchasing system and they are attempting to  
get information from NeXT regarding the system requirements before they  
send the PC order through.  They are having a very difficult time getting  
any information about hardware requirements but were told that the  
software was delayed until Quarter 3.   

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From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fax software for SupraFAX: an update
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:47:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.79860
Reply-To: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech

I heard from two people that DFax is shipping.  I hope to get my
(pre-ordered) copy in about a week. I don't know what the current price
is, but you can probably contact them at emily@totsyssoft.com.

I also heard from Linda Rosen of Black & White Software (see excerpts
below). You can send her mail (linda@bandw.com) to get on their mailing
list.

It looks like we will have a choice really soon!

govind
__________
We are nearly ready with version 1.03 of NXFax which will fully support
not only the ZyXEL modem, but also the Supra and Telebit fax modems.
We have been selling version 1.02 of NXFax (with support only for the
ZyXEL modem) for the past year.  Version 1.03 of NXFax should be ready
in February, we are currently in beta tests with it.

Black & White Software
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: proper version of tex question.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:33:31 GMT

In <HARDY.93Jan8194056@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:

>In article <1993Jan9.005258.28116@news.acns.nwu.edu> tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr) writes:

>???   A simple and probably stupid question.
>???   Will NeXTTeX 3.0 work only on NS3.0?  I'm still on NS2.1.
>???
>???   How can I get a copy of NeXTTeX, version "which ever one runs on my
>???   machine?"  
>There was a pre-release version of TeX on labrea.stanford.edu, with 
>some of the features of the 3.0 release included. I just checked with
>ange-ftp and they are still there:
>    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        475903 Jun 27  1992 nexttex.tar.Z
>    -rw-r--r--  1 root     102        588659 Jun 26  1992 nexttex-alpha.tar.Z
>    -r--rw-r--  1 root     102         32068 Jun 11  1992 dvidvi2.tar.Z
>    -r--r--r--  1 root     102        119773 Apr 20  1992 texview-a9.tar.Z
>also:
>    -rw-r--r--  1 519      fsuser     690176 Nov 17 04:23 dvips5497.tar.Z

>The nexttex-alpha is the one containing most of the enhancements.

Just to clarify here:  (1)  nexttex-alpha contains ENHANCEMENTS to NeXT-TeX
2.0.  It DOES NOT contain all of NeXT-TeX 2.0, which you need to install
first.  It contains texview-a9, so grabbing that is redundant.  (2)  Because
the versions of TeXview and dvips became "wedded" during the development of 
NeXT-TeX 3.0, grabbing texview-a9 by itself does you no good as it will
not run with the old version of dvips you have, and it ALSO DOES NOT run
with dvips5497.  DO NOT grab 5497 unless you are running NeXTstep 3.0
(and if you are running NS 3.0 then definitely go get 5497 because it 
fixes several minor bugs --- and perhaps a few not so minor --- in the 
NeXT-TeX 3.0 release).

Hope that helps a bit.

Tom

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From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kermit 5A188 problem - solution
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:27:37 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD

[I hope all the headers get added, this is coming from
matthews@oberon.umd.edu]

Anyway.

<bang bang bang> <thud>

That was my head against the wall.  Y'see, if your .kermrc file has the
'connect' statement in it, you're really asking for trouble with automated
scripts.  Because .kermrc is run before anything you send it.  And it
connects and well, it's hard to have it run a command when it's already
talking to the modem.  Thanks to those who responded.

I think it's time for a nap.
------
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	2) If it does exist, it's out of date.
	3) Only documentation for useless programs transcends the
	    first two laws.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lnosek@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Luke Nosek)
Subject: Compiling POVRAY on the NeXT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:54:39 GMT

	Has anyone been able to compile povray on the next? I've tried using
the unix version, but the NeXT's unix is a bit different... A friend tried using
the HP RS6000 version, saying it was closer to the next's type of unix.
From: biff@biff.gbdata.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do you download using  (XYZ)MODEM protocol?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:23:42 GMT

In article <C09JGB.BDE@griffin.cuc.ab.ca> davor@griffin.cuc.ab.ca (Davor  
Barcan) writes:
> I have a group called 'modem'.  I make all the users that I want to have  
> access to the modem members of this group.  I then set my ports with these  
> permissions:
> 
>    0 crw-rw----  1 uucp     modem     11,224 Jan  2 21:49 /dev/cufa
> 
> My kermit permissions are also NOT setuid uucp.
> 
> If anyone has any comments on the "safety" of this setup, I'm all ears.  :)

This is how I setup my system, although my "modem" group is called "dialout."   
I haven't had any problems with it, although I am the only user here.

--
Dwight Everhart          "Spring will come for IBM when people
Houston, Texas            start buying big computers again."
biff@biff.gbdata.com      -- John Akers, CEO of IBM
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From: dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow)
Subject: Re: Using Sybase SQL
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 11:19:24 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan7.213021.18871@wam.umd.edu>  
gravatt@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Robert Howerton Gravatt) writes:

*Stuff deleted here*

> 
> My questions are:
> 
> A)  Is the "Sybase" 4.0.2 the whole enchilata or some subpart that does
> not include SQL Server but only DB-Library ?
> 

As I understand it, the sybase server stopped being bundled with version  
2.0.  There was a little card in the upgrade package from 1.x to 2.x that  
would allow academics to obtain the limited server at no charge (I am sure  
that the deadline is long past).  The Sybase server in now a commercial  
item (and it ain't cheap).  If you want to create a small, single user  
database, I recommend the IndexingKit classes.  They are VERY buggy and  
usually don't work as advertised, but you can create useful applications  
with them.... fast, efficient, etc.

> B)  What is an SQL "server" anyway ? 
> 

SQL is implimented using a client-server arrangement.  A client (your  
application) makes transaction requests to the server (which runs in the  
background on some networked computer).  The same server is used by a  
number clients simultaniously.  It is the servers responsibility to manage  
situations like "the deadly embrace" where two or more clients are each  
waiting for each other client to complete a transaction before proceding  
(an infinite loop) and to improve the performance of transactions on the  
database. In other words - the server does all the work.

> C)  Assuming that you do not have write permission to /usr/sybase and  
wish  
> to keep your own personal interfaces file in your home directory, what  
do  
> you need to have in this file and how do you set the enviroment  
variables  
> etc. so you don't get:
> 
> Operating-system error:
>         Connection refused
> DB-Library: Unable to connect: SQL Server is unavailable or does not  
> exist.
> 

You have to have the server and it must be running in order for any client  
application to perform an operation on the database

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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Re: LaTeX problem (missing text)
Reply-To: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:11:26 GMT

In article <1in8f5INN9j4@tamsun.tamu.edu> bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan  
Milligan) writes:
> I'm having a problem with NeXTTeX, specificall LaTeX although I don't
> know if the problem occurs in other modes.  When I view or print a
> compiled file, there is frequently sections of text missing.  There
> are no errors generated; the text just doesn't show up, and the  
following
> text is moved up.  At first I thought it was Edit's line wrap feature,
> but turning it off didn't seem to affect it.  If I place a CR before the 
> effected text, it shows up, but I have no idea why.  Any clues, O Noble
> Gods of NeXT?
> 
My secretary had a problem similar to what you described with a file that  
was made using a WordMarc editor on an IBM-PC and saved in ascii.  Looking  
at the file using emacs showed there were ^M characters at the places  
where the text disappearred.  Doing a query-replace of the ^M with a space  
cured the problem.

   Dick Silbar
From: outland!jmast@s.ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Subject: Re: Setting up a NeXT based Accounting system
Reply-To: outland!jmast@s.ms.uky.edu (John A. Mastrolia)
Organization: Kentucky NeXT Users Group (KYNUG)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:39:10 GMT

In article <1i8oadINNfl4@phakt.usc.edu> rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert  
Alexander Wyatt) writes:
> 
> We are looking for someone in the Washington D.C. area to help us set up  
a
> NeXT based accounting system...does anyone know of any good software?   
Is there
> anyone in the D.C. area who could assist us...please email experience,
> references, salary reqs., etc...please include a phone number as well...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Rob
> rawyatt@scf.usc.edu
> 
> 

I saw a nice package called Fiscal Dimension at a users group not too long  
ago.  The package is sharp and runs under 3.0.  Try them at info@axsys.com  
or fax at (215) 667-2654
-- 
John A. Mastrolia
outland!johnm@ms.uky.edu
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From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Re: [] [] [] Why is the GRAB service greyed out? (Caution: RTF) [] [] []
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 08:36:35 GMT

In article <tlm.726728834@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)  
writes:
> In <1993Jan11.021443.15213@leland.Stanford.EDU> avery@ccrma.stanford.edu   
(Avery Wang) writes:

> >I don't know if this questin was answered already, BUT:
> >Answer:  You have to turn it on using Preferences.  Look in the Server  
> >category (the icon with the hand holding the plate with the menu on it).   
It  
> >will be clear what you need to do.
> 
> Uhhhh..... I might not be the smartest person is the world (might?  I *know*
> I'm not) but your solution only makes me want to re-ask the question. All of
> the Grab services are turned on in my preferences (as a check, I turned them
> off, checked them, turned then on again, checked them,etc.) and no 
> matter what I do they're still greyed out (if I turn them all off then
> the Grab entry under Services vanishes).  Can *you* get them to blacken?
> i.e. become active.  Can anyone?  or is Grab just "services impaired"?
> 
> Tom

Hmmm...  Gee--you're right.  Grab is somewhat defective.  I now remember  
sending in a bug report to that effect during the 3.0 Beta-test program, but  
forgot about it in my previous posting.  But actually, back then Grab would  
work from the Services menu, BUT you had to launch it manually before it would  
register.  But now under the final release of 3.0 it seems that Grab won't  
register itself no matter what!  What an improvement.  Sorry for my  
misinformative posting!

-Avery Wang
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A good PD ada compiler, please...
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:18:45 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <orange.726475298@cunews> orange@alfred.carleton.ca (Paul Vallee) writes:
> Does anyone know where to find a compiler for ADA that will run on the next? 

Meridian sells a NeXT Ada compiler (714) 727-0700

If you are looking for a free one, you can wait for the Gnu Ada9X* (GNAT) compiler
which should be done late this year.  They have first class experienced people on the
project and the GNU back end - so it should be a good compiler.  Or you can try to 
port the new Ada-Ed, which is (I think) some kind of P-code (like) based interpreter.
It runs on PCs and Amigas and perhaps others - look through the Ada FAQ and other files
on ajpo.sei.cmu.edu for more info. This new Ada-Ed is rumoured to be quite
usable, and should not be confused with the very slow SETL based Ada-Ed interpreter
used in the early 80's to experiment with the language design.
You could alse post to comp.lang.ada.

*Ada9X is the new version of Ada which improves (among other things) support
for object oriented programming, concurrency and hierarchical library units.
Features to support these areas exist in Ada83, but turned out to be limited in
some ways with experience.  Ada9X generalizes existing features for the most part,
rather than adding new ones.
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWindows on Next?
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:54:52 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <1993Jan12.153957.9142@newsgate.sps.mot.com> reed@prism.sps.mot.com  
(Tim Reed) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan12.004054.472@cognet.ucla.edu>  
>>bill@ganesha.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to run OpenWindows on a NeXT?
>>> Where, how much, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Bill (bill@cognet.ucla.edu)
>>
>>Someone here has done this using coXist to emulate an X terminal but  
>>he had to do a lot of tweaking to get it to work. He said it was VERY  
>>slow also so he gave it up.
>>
>>--
>>-----------------------------------
>>Tim Reed
>>reed@prism.sps.mot.com
>>-----------------------------------

co-Xist3.0 is easily 5 to 10 times faster than the 2.1 version.
There is nothing slow about X11 on the NeXT (period)  I here Cub-X's
new version is much faster than it's old one also.
--
Ronald Pomeroy		[Objective-Cruntime: [Smalltalk runtime]];
Advanced Micro Devices	[self dream-on];
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (NeXTmail preferred)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GoldDigger help
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:16:47 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <2B4DF48B.2EF7@deneva.sdd.trw.com> kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer) writes:
> .. How do you get to the whole left hand side of level 7?

walk on their heads the whole way across.
takes alot of trial and error, but you have to do the left first
because once you do the right side there is no way back.

I havent found a sure proof way, just keep trying, dance around alot
and every now and then you can make it the whole way across.
-- 
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From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fax software for SupraFAX modems?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:09:56 GMT
Reply-To: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech

I use PDFax for sending faxes using a SupraFAX v.32bis modem. I have
also placed an order for the fax software from Total Systems Software.
Since TotSysSoft does not seem to be ready, and there is no indication
when it will be available, I would be interested in other fax software.
Is there anything else available? Thanks.

govind
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School of Industrial and Systems Engineering, Georgia Institute of Technology
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely)
Subject: Re: Mike Ferris' Risk.app (more computer games)
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:08:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.161439.1593@splunge.uucp> royce@splunge.uucp (Royce  
Howland) writes:
> fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
> 
> >> Anybody else out there have Mike Ferris' excellent Risk.app and spend
> >> as much time with it as I do?  :~)  I'd be interested in an exchange
> >> of computer players with anybody who's written them.

I'm glad to heart that there are people out there developing games for the  
NeXT. What I'd really like to see is a NeXT port of Wolfenstein 3D.  I got  
horribly addicted to it during the Christmas holidays. (Nothing like blowing  
away Nazi's on Christmas day! ;-).  I played it on a friend's 386 that had a  
sound board in it.  Perhaps it is the sound that really makes this game stand  
out.  With the fast Postscript graphics and the sound capability, the NeXT  
seems like the ideal vehicle for this game.  Has anyone considered a port of  
this game to the NeXT?
  
--
Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
University of Western Ontario,     vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu (Jack &)
Subject: bibframe on NeXT
Reply-To: hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:47:50 GMT

Is anyone successfully using bibframe on a NeXT (any OS release), particularly
with FrameMaker 3.X? If so, can I ftp your version (or you ftp your version
to my host, or some such) and take a look at it? Thanks for any information.

Jack Hodges
San Francisco State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Re: [] [] [] Why is the GRAB service greyed out? (Caution: RTF) [] [] []
Reply-To: alberto@parsec.uucp
Organization: I keep everything where I <most likely> can find it.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:40:12 GMT

[20K post reduced to 850+ bytes]

The reason why the services menu for Grab is grayed out is that Edit is not  
running with an RTF window as the key window. If it does, then when you grab from  
services it will paste directly to your RTF document.

I don't know why these services are not active elsewhere. Anybody care to  
explain?  On a similar topic, has anyone seen the double document Application  
Icon for Edit? I don't know what I did, but Edit updated its docked application  
icon to be a staked double type icon...
-- 
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! Installing 3.0 on external HD
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:30:06 GMT
Reply-To: chwe@quads.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I have been having all sorts of problems installing system 3.0
on my external hard disk.  Before trying to upgrade, I had system 2.1
on both my internal (105M Quantum from NeXT) and external (1G Fujitsu)--
the external's SCSI ID was set up so that it would be the default
bootup drive.
After plugging in a friend's CD-rom with the 3.0 CD, and running 
UpgradePrep.app from the CD-Rom tools diskette, it took me a long
time to get the computer to read the CD-rom.  Finally it did and I
did the automatic installation on my external drive, which seemed
OK.  But after installation, booting from my external drive 
puts me into a System Panic window, which eventually stops and
then tries to boot again.  I tried booting from the CD-rom as detailed
in the manuals but this did not work either.  If I unplug the external
and CD-rom I can still boot up from my internal drive, luckily.  
Currently I can't access my external drive at all (I've tried
bsd(1,0,0) from the ROM Monitor to boot from my internal drive, 
but I haven't tried changing the SCSI ID of the external drive,
which involves opening the enclosure and moving the jumpers).

Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated!  I've been
out of the country for the last four months so I haven't been able 
to keep up with the current folklore on system 3.0--so excuse me if
this is an old question.  Please repost or send email (regular,
not NeXT) to chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu.

Thanks in advance,
Michael Chwe
Dept of Economics
University of Chicago
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