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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:16:12 EDT
From: Girish Harshe <GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Lata : How many songs has she sung?
 <shenoy.713499594@pv0213.vincent.iastate.edu>
 <1992Aug11.140701.3069@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <1992Aug11.173637.12621@colorado.edu>
 <kumar.713628445@aslws01>


 In this context I am reposting my earlier article sent to this group:
By the way what I remember the total number of Lata's songs
(as reported in Guinness Book) was above 40000 and that was a few years
back. Even Mohd. Rafi was credited with more than 28000 songs according
to the news reports following his death.

=================================================Beginning of Repost
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:04:53 EDT
From: Girish Harshe <GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: How many songs has Lata sung?


Hi,
   This question has remained unanswered for many years. Lata
Mangeshkar's name has been included in the Guinness Book of World
Records for maximum number of songs recorded. However, a simple
math reduces the number (above 40000) considerably.
   If she is singing professionally since she was 12, then
her career years would be around say 50 so far, (correction welcome)
Assuming she sang 2 songs per day, for 300 days a year (which I
think is much more than average) she would have recorded 50x600
i.e. about 30,000 songs. But she is given credit for more
than 40,000 songs. That was 10 years back. How do you explain
this. Even Mohd. Rafi is said to have recorded 28000 odd songs.
Is that possible?

Just curious,

Girish
=====================================End of Repost


I think this number is highly exaggerated. She is indeed a great
singer. But let us have the records straight so that future
great singers with well documented careers, may have a chance
to surpass Lata's accomplishments.

Girish

 On a completely different note: Why is Rafi's first name is
 always spelled 'Mohd.' instead of 'Mohammed'?

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: jasjit@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: Re: Lyrics request for Ae mere hum safar
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:45:11 GMT

In article <Bt4w9L.DBD@ecf.toronto.edu> murthy@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTHY SAMNATHAN) writes:
> Hello netters,
>		I need the lyrics to 'Ae mere humsafar' from the movie
>"Qayamat se Qayamat tak". Please mail me the lyrics or post on this newsgroup.
>	Thank you very much.
>.Regards
>...Sam
>		*****************************************
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>		*****************************************


Aye mere hamsafar ika zara intezaar
Sun sadayen de rahi hai manzil pyar ki...

Ab hai judai ka mausam, do pal ka mehman,
Kaise na jaye ga andhera, kyon na thame go toofan,
kaise na miley gi, manzil pyar ki,
Aye mere..

Pyar ne jahan pe rakha hai, jhoom ke kadam ik bar,
vahin pe jhuka hai koi parda, vahin pe giri hai deewar,
Rokey na rukey gi, manzil pyar ki,
Aye mere...

YAKKF,
-Jasjit Singh
 (though a name more appropriate for this gp would be :
    Jazz Geet Sing)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:33:15 EDT
From: Girish Harshe <GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Rhyme Time

      Hi,
           I was thinking about the lyrics manufacturing
    which goes on in the film industry. After some knowledge of
    Hindi songs, rhyming pairs or sets of words can be guessed
    by the listners easily. And perhaps the choices are so
    limited that the same words come again and again in new
    songs.  For example: naam, daam, kaam, Ram, sham and
    sometimes Shyam or salaam; saadha, aadha, wada, irada;
    rogi,jogi; dekha, Rekha; paisa, aisa, vaisa, jaisa, kaisa;

         From time to time we do come across very unusual
    pairs of rhyming words. e.g. (Kholi number) 420 and
    (Anthony) Gonsalves, Himala(y) and jeenawala, Laila and Akela etc.
    Can anyone think of more of such unusual rhyming pairs (used in songs).
    It would be very interesting (and helpful for amateurs as well as
    pros to write lyrics). Perhaps, people like Anand Bakshi may
    already have a huge compilation of such pairs.

    Girish

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: murthy@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTHY SAMNATHAN)
Subject: Lyrics request for Ae mere hum safar
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:27:20 GMT

 Hello netters,
		I need the lyrics to 'Ae mere humsafar' from the movie
"Qayamat se Qayamat tak". Please mail me the lyrics or post on this newsgroup.
	Thank you very much.
.Regards
...Sam
		*****************************************
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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Song lyrics 'chupa rustom'
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:23:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.193334.9371@tamsun.tamu.edu> sve6324@tamuts.tamu.edu (Srinath Varadarajan Ekkad) writes:
>Somebody had requested lyrics of this song which follows from 
>Dev Anands 'chupa rustam'
>
>' dheere se jaana khatiyan me re Khatmal  (2)
>
>  Soyi hai raajkumari,dekh rahi meete sapne
>
> jjaa jjaa chupja thakiyan me,ho khatmal...
>dheere se jaana......
>
> mile mushqil se ye mehmaan,
> ho bhi jaate shaayad mehrbaan,
> aag laga di hai sukhan me,ho khatmal..
> dheere se jaana...
>
> I think i just am not able to remeber further more.
> any additions and corrections welcome.
>
> Rajan, any direct mail to you bounces.
Let me add some more lines,

 Kyun chup chup ke pyar kare too
 Bara chupa hua rustam hai too
 Le le hum ko bhi sharan mein  ( this line is a little distorted voice)
 Le le hum ko bhi sharan mein, ho khatmal
 dheere se jaana...

 I think , there is one more stanza.

-Saumyen

>
>**********************************************************
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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Lyrics Please!
From: kamathy@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Yogesh Kamath)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:46:48 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Aug12.143023.7567@philabs.philips.com> ram@philabs.philips.com (R. X. Sriram) writes:
>Hello everyone!!
>Could any of you post the lyrics of Kishore Kumar's song which goes 
>something like this --
>
>Eh kya hua,...kab hua and so on
>
>I would also appreciate if you could post the name of the film and
>music director.
>
>Thanks in advance..
>
>Sriram
>

This is from the movie Amar Prem *ing Rajesh Khanna and Sharmila.The
music director was either R.D Burman or S.D.Burman.The song goes like 
this:
     Yeh kya hua, kaise hua,kab hua
     ab kya sunaaye
     yeh kya hua, kaise hua, kab hua
     kyun hua, 
     jab hua, tab hua
     ho chodo yeh na socho
     hm hm hm yeh, kya hua

     ai dil kyun, shikwa karen jhoota
     Kya hua jo dil toota
     shishe ka khilona tha
     kuch na kuch to ho na tha
     hua, Yeh.....

     humne jo, dekha tha suna tha 
     kya bathaye woh kya tha
     sapna salona tha
     khatm to hona tha
     hua, Yeh.....

     ai dil,chal pee kar jhoome, 
     inhi galiyon main ghoomen
     yahan hamen khona tha
     badnaam hona tha,
     hua, Yeh.....

  Enjoy.

  Yogesh.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: jasjit@cloudgen1.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: Re: Tere bina zindagi se koi..(Was Re: Some more songs on "zindagi")
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:37:33 GMT

I missed out one stanza in post, so here goes:

kaash aisa ho tere kadmon se chun ke manzil chalen
aur kahin, door kahin
tum gar saath ho, manzilon ki kami to nahin...

And, unlike the previous article, this time I will make sure that the
.signature file I append is my own, and not of any "ayera-gaira-nathu".

And, just a clarification. I am unmarried, and certainly have no children.
(in contrast to what Prince Kohli's posting a couple of days ago..). In
fact, I belong to that class of people whose heart cries out :

Zaroorat Hai....Ek Srimati Ki...
[chahey seva na karey vo pati ki....;-)]

Have fun,
Jasjit

---------------------------------------------------------------
Jasjit Singh              jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Request for lyrics.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:42:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.234543.9624@cs.albany.edu> raginis@cs.albany.edu (Ragini Shamsunder) writes:
>Hi,
>   I am pretty new to this newsgroup.  I was wondering whether
>someone would take the trouble of sending me the lyrics of
>" Duniya O duniya, tera jawab nahin ...." by Kishore K.

Music: S.D. Burman

Duniya O Duniya, tera jawaab nahin
Teri jafa'on ka bus koi hisaab nahin

Tu chha'o hain ya hain dhoop khabar kisko
Kya hain tera asli roop khabar kisko
Aaye nazar kaise tu aasoo hain khwaab nahin
Duniya O Duniya.....

Teri zubaan pe hain zikr sitaaron ka
Tere labon pe hain naam bahaaron ka
Par tere daaman mein kaatein hain gulaab nahin
Duniya O Duniya....

Yeh kin khayaalon mein kho gaye hain aap?(Narrative, the first time)
Yeh kin khayaalon mein kho gaye hain aap
Kyoon kuchh pareshaan se ho gaye hain aap
Aap se to mujhko koi shiqwaah janaab nahin
Duniya O Duniya....

I don't remember the film but I do recall Dharmendra with his
nostrils in the inflate mode during this song!

Rajan [main hoon ek paagal premee mera dard na ko'i jaanaa] Parrikar
====================================================================

>
>From what I could make out, there seem to be a lot of Kishore
>fans.  I hope someone would oblige.  Thanks a lot in advance.
>
>eagerly waiting,
>-ragini
From: raginis@cs.albany.edu (Ragini Shamsunder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Request for lyrics.
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:45:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University at Albany, Comp. Sci. Dept.
Originator: raginis@reilly.albany.edu

Hi,
   I am pretty new to this newsgroup.  I was wondering whether
someone would take the trouble of sending me the lyrics of
" Duniya O duniya, tera jawab nahin ...." by Kishore K.

From what I could make out, there seem to be a lot of Kishore
fans.  I hope someone would oblige.  Thanks a lot in advance.

eagerly waiting,
-ragini
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:15:58 EDT
From: Girish Harshe <GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Lata : How many songs has she sung?
 <1992Aug11.173637.12621@colorado.edu> <59614@mimsy.umd.edu>
 <1992Aug12.203145.5655@njitgw.njit.edu>

In article <1992Aug12.203145.5655@njitgw.njit.edu>, axg4836@hertz.njit.edu
(Animesh Y. Gandhi) says:
>
>Hi netters,
>I am new to this place so please excuse any mistakes.
>
>In a recent issue of India Today there was an article on the current
>singers in the Hindi film world.
>It basiclly stated how the industry changed over the years.
>The article also mentions that the current groups of singers like Kumar
>Sanu record about 5 songs per day. Using that figured it is very
>possible that Lata might have around 30,000 songs to her credit.
>
>-axg4836@hertz.njit.edu

  Even if a singer records 5 songs a day, the average number of
songs recorded per day could be much smaller. For example
if a singer works 5 days per week, it will be about 3.5 songs
per day (spd). And over the period of 40-50 years this average has
to drop considerably. So in Lata's case with a 50 year long
career and an average of 1 spd, the most generous estimate
cannot exceed 19000 (18250+12 for leap years, to be precise).
Even any inflated estimates can hardly justify the claimed figure
of 30-40K songs. That's all. (However, her place in the Guinness
Book for most number of songs, is certainly well deserved, since
no other singer has had that successful a career, with the exception
of Asha).

Girish
From: singh@terminus.gatech.edu (Ranu Singh)
Subject: Re: Copyrights
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.174952.3444@intelhf.hf.intel.com> jasjit@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Jasjit Singh) writes:
>There's a Punjabi song "Kali teri gut te paranda tera lal ni..."
>that becomes "Kali teri choti hai paranda tera lal ni..." which
>is neither Punjabi nor Hindi- but a curious mixture of the two. I
>liked this modified version though, and it was from a film starring
>Chunkey Pandey/Neelam (name of the film ????).

It was Bahaar Aane Tak and the stars were Rupa Ganguly (Draupadi)
and ???
This song became a hit so there was a spate of punjabi song copies.At
least a couple of these were in Nagmani (1. Peecche peecche aata meri 
chaal.. 2. ??).
>Copyrights can be tranferred by the recording company, I think. But I am
>sure that Bappi Lehri does not come to the US for them... The songs copied
>from English songs are probably (surely?) copied without permission.
>Even within India, not everyone bothers about copyrights. I think
>there was a law-suit bertween two versions of "Hawa Hawa..."

One that was more publicised was the fight b/w 'Jumma Chumma'(Hum)
and 'Tamma Tamma'(Thanedar) regarding which was the *original*
while both were copies of an Egyptian song !
Also, the song 'Tum jo bane mere humsafar' used the tune of Lara's 
Theme (Dr Zhivago).
A seemingly respectable practice seems to be to copy the metre
of an older song. e.g.
1. Thandi Hawaen...(MD: SD)
2. Rahen na rahen hum...(MD: ??)
3. Sagar kinare ...(MD: RD)
I once read an interview in which RD admitted to having copied 
the metre.He implied that it was ok since the original was done 
by SD and it had already been copied by someone else.
Any other examples of 'musical licence' ?

>Jasjit



	-Ranu Singh
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Re: Bhakti Geets
Reply-To: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:53:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.184915.27394@colorado.edu>, parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
|> Re: The Kohli-Vinchhi exchange
|> 
|> To avoid such hassles, maybe we could agree on the following protocol:
|> Any posted lyrics immediately become "public domain". No need to
|> acknowledge the original poster. Comments??

I would agree as many people tend to store lyrics without the
headers, meaning that the poster's name might not be remembered. It
should suffice to mention that the lyrics had earlier been taken
from r.m.i.m. and are not the poster's original effort (it does take
some "mehnat" to type them in).

Of course, if one does know the original's poster's name, it
would be nice to mention it. However, one cannot claim any
"right" to have this.

Actually, I really do not think that this type of situation
would occur very often. This once was just an understandable
mistake. And I hope it has been settled amicably. Chetan?


|> Rajan Parrikar
|> ==============

Cheers,

-Prince

-- 
pkohli@cc.gatech.edu      | "What's so unpleasant about getting drunk?" 
Distributed Systems Group,| "Ask a glass of water."   Hitchhikers'....
College of Computing, Georgia Tech.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Lata : How many songs has she sung?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:49:48 GMT

In article <kumar.713628445@aslws01> kumar@asl.dl.nec.com (Sudhir Kumar) writes:
>parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
>
>>The 'salad' days of Hindi film music were in the 50s and 60s and
>>it was not unusual for Lata, in those days, to record 4 songs/day. She
>>is known to be extremely quick in absorbing a tune....the rehearsals,
>>for the most part, were to get the orchestration right.
>
>Lata might have sung 4, may be more, on a single day. But maintaining
>an average of 4 a day over an extended period of time -- you are
>talking BIG exageration here. As I said earlier in my post, according
>to Madhuri (magazine) Lata sang close to an average of 1 Hindi film song per
>day in the period 1953 to 1960.
>
>-- sudhir

Nasir Ahmed Noor wrote that Lata's singing career spanning 40 years is
an exaggeration (or something to that effect). My response was that IT
(the 40 years) is NOT an exaggeration. Yes, the *number* of songs she
is credited with is bloated. Sorry if I didn't come across that way.

Rajan Parrikar
==============
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu

ps: BTW, I don't think there's any dispute that Lata has sung in the
most number of languages. Comments??




>
>
>--
>Sudhir Kumar		Any opinions expressed are strictly
>kumar@asl.dl.nec.com    my own  and have nothing to do with
>(214) 518-5000          NEC America, Inc.
>1525 Walnut Hill Lane
From: vasub@zinger.sps.mot.com (Vasu Bibikar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Hindi or Classical CD's
Keywords: Ravi Shankar, CD
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:55:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Aug15.205513.18632
Reply-To: vasub@zinger.sps.mot.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor



In article 9912@njitgw.njit.edu, axg4836@hertz.njit.edu (Animesh Y. Gandhi) writes:
>
>Secondly, Columbia House does not carry internation CD's so you will
>have to buy from a local Indian store or a distributor(like video
>sound).
>
>Hope that helps,
>
>-Animesh

I bought  "Ravi Shankar-Inside the Kremlin" CD through Columbia House last year. 
They do offer one more Ravi Shankar CD, does anyone know the order number for it?

-Vasu
vasub@zinger.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: gopal@tamsun.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: Some more songs on "zindagi"
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:14:16 GMT

In article <taravade.714141065@mueller.ecn.purdue.edu> taravade@mueller.ecn.purdue.edu (Kunal N Taravade) writes:
>Here are some more non-Kishore songs on "zindagi".
>2) Zindagi dene waale sun
>   Teri duniya se dil chal gaya, main yahan jeete jee mar gaya
>   Singer: Talat Mahamood
>   Film: ???
>   MD: Anil Biswas(?)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


   The music director is Ghulam Mohammed
    

 Gopal
From: preetham@chisti.umiacs.umd.edu (Preetham Gopalaswamy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Correction from a posting last week.
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:18:11 GMT

There was some discussion last week about the song
"Dhalti jaaye raat, kehle dil ki baat" from the film "Razia Sultan" (old one)
sung by Asha and Rafi.
Somebody was wondering who the music director for this film was and the common
consensus reached was Iqbal Qureshi.   Well it is not him.   The music director
was Lacchiram, an unknown name.   I don't know if he has made music for any films
other than this one.   Perhaps some net gurus have heard of him.

					Preetham
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Kishore songs on "Meaning of Life"...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:13:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Aug17.194159.22076@colorado.edu> parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.182740.19647@colorado.edu> parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
>
><deleted>
>>>
>>>7] Mera jeevan kora kagaz kora hi reh gaya... (kora kagaz)
>>>   Jo likha tha ansuon ke sang beh gaya...
>>
>>Music: Sapan-Jagmohan
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sorry, that should be Kalyanji-Anandji. The Sapan-Jagmohan song I had
>in mind was: Mera jeevan kucch kaam na aaya jaise sukhey ped ki chhaya.
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Which movie is this from?? Is it from 'Anurodh'.

>
>Rajan
>=====
-Saumyen
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Lata : How many songs has she sung?
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:30:42 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.154740.16842@intelhf.hf.intel.com>
jasjit@juhi.uucp (Jasjit Singh) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug12.190758.13286@cc.tut.fi>, jk87377@cc.tut.fi
>(Juhana Kouhia) writes:
>|> 
>|> I recall that Asha has the record on singing 70 song in one day.
>
>
>Surely you're kidding!!

No, My source is radio -- well, that doesn't say they are
correct.

>Suppose , on that fine day, Asha sang for 14 hours out of 24 !!
>Even then, that means a song every 12 minutes.... impossible.

Note that it is possible to sing all lyrics in one take without
empty space -- music editors then put the voices to the correct
places.
So, if I sing an ten minutes; then somebody can make an half hour
song from it by adding other solo instruments between my voices.
(Probably not, because I don't have a good singing voice :-)

Song every 12 minutes -- why not?
Again from a radio program I recall that Lata (I don't know when)
did run from studio to studio and after 15 hour work he did go to home
with train. I think this was when she was young.


>The only logical explanation can be that she was singing songs that
>already had been sung previously.

At least there can be some allready made background music.


Hey, if somebody has magazines with film star/music star interviews
please type in to Net. What music or film magazines exists?


Juhana Kouhia
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:55:23 EDT
From: Girish Harshe <GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: O.P. Nayyar : his music.
 <1992Aug7.192856.11763@colorado.edu> <1992Aug10.172020.8427@colorado.edu>
 <1992Aug12.235155.22066@ichips.intel.com> <59651@mimsy.umd.edu>
 <92226.103139GRH6@psuvm.psu.edu>

On the same subject: Listen to starting music piece of the song
Mera naam chun chun choo. There OPN uses all the twelve notes
and still it sounds great.

Girish