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From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: On Being Single
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:34:25 GMT
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <MARTINC.93Jan25103759@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.030906.16272@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>
>   Like yourself, I am divorced, and hence no longer in
>   a contractual arrangement, as stipulated above. Hence
>   I am 'single' - I am in a Protracted arrangment with
>   a ProblemOlderWoman, But until she finishes the
>   preliminary readings, including, but not limited to
>   Hofstatder's GEB, we are not in a position to discuss
>   the nature of Completeness or Closure.
>
>What I want to know is if that means you're in a protracted relationship
>with Aahz by transitivity.

SHHHHHHH!  Don't tell anyone!
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Kinky vanilla queer het
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.peeves
From: pyotr@halcyon.com (Peter D. Hampe)
Subject: Sometimes you just have to say...
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:25:17 GMT

drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

>johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>]  
>] Nice hooters.

>Ok, are there Like, well, UnNice Hooters?

Yes there are UnNice Hooters.

>ciao
>drieux

>ObPeeve: Attack Of the KillerHooters!

I have just today, after an exhausting indepth
study of the matter, discovered TheSecretLocation
of The OrbitalMindControlLasersControls.  They are
located in ProblemWomen's Hooters, and that through
their FeminineMindControlMethods they are able
to Overcome The HIghMoralFiberLifeStyle of the
NaiveAndInnocent and Cause All sorts of Ikky Nasty
"Things" to happen.  Like the commingling of
Boy & Girl Ikk.

Yes my Friends, it was a horrible mess, a tragic
sight, (and a bit rank)  _ fended her off with the
Totem of Truth until she was no longer able to 
have her wicked was with me and I could go back to
sleep.

chus
pyotr

p.s. wish me luck as I attempt further research tonight.


>-- 
>MajorModernDayProblems: 

>sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
>and they may not be connected..... 
-- 
Pyotr aka Peter D. Hampe : eka pyotr@halcyon.com
Nothing says loving like a bun in the oven.
EOF
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Concerts vs. Relationship
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:07:19 GMT
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz


 pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) writes:
>>       Now I'm not blaming it on the concert or the artists, but it just
>>strikes me odd.  Have any of you had similar experiences?

> Yes.  A guy I was dating took me to a Barry Manilow concert.
> It was all over after that.

   How the *HELL* did he ever get you into the bloody building, Pooh ? I mean,
the comments about coyotes chewing off their legs to escape traps would appear
to have a direct application in the human world when it comes to Barry Manilow
!
   I wonder if Brent has considered more personal factors than the concerts as
relevant to the question of why he cannot keep a relationship going ?
-- 
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand (Quirke_A@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz)
"Only the free have disposition to be truthful.
 Only the truthful have the interest to be just.
 Only the just possess the willpower to be free." - WH Auden.
From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: what is attractive ?
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:42:42 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

>>dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller) writes:
>>>  Does anybody know why they are attracted to certain people ? This includes
>>>only physical features: gender, eyes, body, hair, etc. etc.

After watching friends eviscerate themselves in bad relationships,
and the evidence that most of us repeat in love what we grew up seeing:

Love happens when your neuroses match.

Francois.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: (LONG) Re: Living alone and liking it
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:55:50
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
	<1993Jan25.165842.4673@client21.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
	<77582@apple.apple.COM> <lmdtj1INN78h@news.bbn.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: dhardin@bbn.com's message of 27 Jan 93 20:53:53 GMT

In article <lmdtj1INN78h@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

   In article <77582@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Wendy Nather) writes:
   >
   >A man will happily live
   >in his own messy apartment, but not consider that someone
   >else might want to walk without tripping over things.  

   Whoops.

   >He will
   >only start thinking about dinner when HE is hungry, and only
   >then will notice that there's nothing to eat in the house,
   >complain about it, and then go get a beer and Doritos.  

   Er, well, I do manage to remember the milk and Gerbers for her Majesty,
   but otherwise, well, whoops.

   >Men don't remember personal data relevant to anyone else
   >(like birthdays, preferences, family issues, etc.).  Often
   >they will give gifts when THEY feel like it and think of it,
   >not when they think YOU would like it or need cheering up.

   Damn.  I think I must really be a man.

   Thanks Pooh, you just ruined my life.  I'm going to go commit suicide now.

DON'T DO IT, SWEETIE!  Maybe you're just another male lesbian.  A female
male lesbian.  A female male lesbian who likes guys.

Golly, this is getting complex.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: an3371@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Second Date
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.singles
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:42:13 GMT

How long after a first date do you usually wait before going
for a second date?  A week, a few days?  Guess it depends on
the situation, too.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: SM ISO MAIL
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:26:12 GMT

st92rcn@cen.ex.ac.uk
>My name is rachel and I want your body


sorry Rach, my luscious bod belongs to my luscious wife.
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: The Classiest Pickup Lines
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:31:43 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

To bring this all back to the Subject: line:

"Hmmm, what's *your* email address then?"

That would have to rank as a pretty good pick-up line. :-)
-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz           Work: 64 4 233 8186
 Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz     Home: 64 4 499 3832
   Wellington, NZ | Yes, I do have long ears, a black nose, and a tail.
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:08:58 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>In article <77138@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>Ick. I always hated the part of my high-school dating experience that involved
>>micro-focusing on hand positions. [...]

>*ouch* *ouch* *ouch* *ouch* *ouch*
>OK, now that we've established that I'm an adolescent game-player... :)

>To each her own.  I kind of like little games.  Not the dishonest kind,
>but the kind where, for a little while, no one's _quite_ _positive_ that
>something's going to happen.  Tense, yes; uncomfortable, no.  It gets
>you all keyed up for the next stage.  

I really learned something -- it never occurred to me that some folks like
this game, but a lurker wrote me to say the exact same thing. So I guess 
you're right, Julie, some of us like to play the backrub game, and others 
like to play the handholding game. 'Tain't nothin' wrong wi' that.

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:54:20 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <lm8bdaINN8tu@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>1)  Would you consider a person who had one or two dates a month with people
>that he/she never went out with again to be non-single?

I would say that person was single most of the time, but non-single 
once or twice a month.  There's no doubt he's much closer to the
single end of the spectrum than the non-single end, but I believe
it is a spectrum, not the black-and-white kind of thing Trygve makes 
it out to be.

Most people who say they are happy being single do not mean they are
happy having no interaction with the opposite sex (assuming they are
heterosexual).  They mean either a) that they are unwilling to accept
the additional responsibility and commitment required to move further
toward the nonsingle end or b) that they do not want to give up something
they think they would have to give up if they became permanently nonsingle.
Usually, the things they say they would have to give up turn out to be 
things they would not have to give up at all, if they met the right person. 
There are few things you absolutely have to give up, no matter who you marry.



>2)  Would you consider a person who went out as often as he/she liked with
>groups of friends to be non-single?

Hm.  Well, I think there's a distinction here.  I go out with groups
of friends as often as I like, but there's a difference (for me, at 
least) between doing something with a group and doing something with
an individual.  There's also a distinction between doing something 
with someone, where the activity is the specific focus, and doing 
something where the individual is the focus and the activity is secondary.

Many, probably most, of the women I know participate in group activities
with male friends but feel it is "inappropriate" to meet a man in
an individual situation (especially one that is person-focused
rather than activity-focused) unless they are officially "dating."
I don't quite understand this, since none of them would hesitate to 
meet a female friend under similar circumstances, but that's the way 
it is.  I don't think participating in an activity-focused group 
activity makes you any less single.  It's a qualitatively different 
kind of connection.  (e.g., I could, if I tried hard enough, find
someone who enjoys going horseback riding with me, but what I really 
want is someone who enjoys going horseback riding with *me*.)
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:11:24
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
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In-reply-to: rohwerwd@netcom.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:16:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.081657.8326@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:

	Gosh, I wish that you could give Daniel and the other people that
   have responded to you in this thread the benefit of the doubt and trust
   what they say instead of calling them liars.

But he can't -- that would mean he had to admit that it is *possible* to
be happy being single.  As with the working out thread, that would mean
giving up the idea that something about himself may be why he's unhappy.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:59:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <ewright.728156588@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:

>In <MARTINC.93Jan26173927@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>>Why are you unhappy and not dating?

>I have already answered that question, Charlie, at length.  The
>short version is that no woman who I've been interested in has
>ever been interested in me.

And no part of that is at all under your control?

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have all of this,
 and, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, from you?"
- "Passionate Kisses" Lucinda Williams
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Audrey Hepburn (was: *How* did you meet your SO) 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:40:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.161253.9134@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@ecs.comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>
>cocoa@net.com (Little 'e') writes:
>
>> My SO was telling his parents that I should talk to them because I like old
>> movies and know of actors and actresses he's never heard of.  I watch current
>> television shows and movies on occasion, but they don't seem nearly as
>> interesting on average as old movies do.  Anyone else have this same feeling?
>
>You know, I've never really felt that way.  Whenever I watch an old movie, it
>usually feels really dated to me. 

[...]

I have to agree with Aahz on this one--older movies often seem better because
most of the truly awful ones (except, oddly enough, in the genre of horror/SF)
have had time to vanish without a trace.  Really good movies are still being
made today, but they're still very much in the grip of Sturgeon's Law (90% of
everything is crap) and are fairly few and far between.

The good older movies don't seem dated to me at all--it's hard to imagine
Jose' Ferrer's Cyrano ever seeming out of date; same thing with a lot of
the movies made by Gary Cooper and James Stewart (no doubt they made some
awful films too--but we just don't see those as a rule); and I suspect that
the movies MGM made based on George Bernard Shaw's plays when he was still
alive and actually on the set to keep the movies within the spirit he saw
in his plays won't seem dated for a few more centuries.

Trygve   (Hmmmmm...on second thought, I can't say that the older movies
          we see are always better than the general run of movies now--
          there are at least a few Danny Kaye movies I think I could 
          happilly live without.)
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From: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro Exchange - Kenwood, CA - 707-833-4032

DB. From: danb@zx.qsp.UUCP (Daniel Benbenisty)

       [story of the relationship left out, so that we may be brief]
  .
  . >>>===Pan-Handle-Dan===>	danb@qsp.com
  . Daniel Benbenisty		Guitarist for EARWURM		

       Good for you Dan. (honestly)  It takes a real MAN to admit that
he's just to damn busy to hold down a good relationship.

       It shows much insight on your part to admit this.  It shows even
more wisdom to know that if you were to get involved in another
relationship that you would only end up hurting yourself.  Not to mention
the feelings of your partner, who would once again feel left out and
neglected!!

       Maybe you should try and find someone who enjoys your work as much
as you do.  This is one of my goals.  To find a WOMAN, who enjoys being
an entrepreneur as much as I do.  One that enjoys taking risks, and knows
that a business is not built on a lot of hot air, it takes HARD WORK.

       Maybe wanting to program computer games for a living is a childish
dream but it's my dream and I WILL NOT ALLOW anyone to take this from me.
When your in 8th grade and realize this (that I wanted to be a game
designer) it seems so far off.  But when you meet your idol/mentor "Bill
Budge, of Raster Blaster fame (for those of you who don't know who he is,
he made the first pinball game for the Apple II) at the west coast
computer fair in SF, and he tells you go for it, you CAN do it.  Well,
that was it for me.  Now I have a poster in a frame (nice and mounted)
that hangs on my wall above my desk and computer, with his signature on
it.  It may not mean a lot to you, but it is my dream.

       When you sacrifice your dreams, you die inside.  I'm full of life
and single (no I don't love it) but I accept it!

       Brent Mason (so much for the credibility topic.. sorry)
---
 . BABBLE v1.0 . There is someone imperfect out there for everyone!!
                                       . KMail 2.94  Micro Exchange
                                                                                                  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jones@samish.Stanford.EDU (Caren Jones)
Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide/Backrubs
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:58:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.220457.12422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.064613.29860@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
>>In article <C1ByvC.Cxp@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:
>>>
>>>Hear, hear. I gotta say I fully agree with Aahz on this one. The backrub
>>>criterion does help to sort out the folks who want/need massage from those
>>>that don't. Robert prefers to avoid them ( from what I can tell ), so he'd
>>>rather choose someone who feels the same way.
>>
>>Huh?  I don't like spinach much either.  Does this mean I avoid those who do?
>>Tell me: I'm dying to know what my preferences are, since you seem to know
>>so much more about me that I do.
>
>Perhaps it was a little presumptuous to assume that you felt that way, but
>it isn't that unreasonable an assumption, given how often differing feelings
>about physical contact cause friction (or, worse, not enough friction) in a
>relationship.  Like Aahz, I would be unlikely to enjoy a romantic
>relationship with someone who wasn't given to being physically affectionate--

I wouldn't assume that Robert doesn't like sex or that he fails to
please his partners (which you've implied, Trygve) just because 
he doesn't like backrubs.

Sheesh, it's an awfully big leap to say that somebody who doesn't 
enjoy backrubs doesn't enjoy physical contact or affection.  I
don't like people licking my ears, but that doesn't imply that I
don't like backrubs, hugs, holding hands, foreplay, sex, or
anything else.  

caren
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: La Biere(was: could be worse)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:05:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan22.000915.10181@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>In article 727577347@convex.convex.com, thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
 
|At TheRedFox you have two choices of draft: 
|Labatt's Blue or Kokanee Gold. The rest is
|bottled beer from Japan or Molson Canadian
|(which they DARE to call a pilsener...It tastes
|NOTHING like Urquell, the reference pilsener from 
|Pilzn...).

Say, Dreas actually *does* no something about beer.  Actually, it's from 
Pilzen. Pilsner Urquell.  One of my favorite dart pubs serves it.

-- 
-john
From: eradm.wbst845e@xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: SM ISO SF For Head Games
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:42:42 GMT
Reply-To: eradm.wbst845e@xerox.com
Organization: Home

Okay, someone said they'd like to see a post from a SM looking for
head games. Well here I am! I enjoy making you feel small, _real_ small.
If you want someone who waffles on commitments, talks badly about 
you behind your back, and hits on your friends, then look no
further! No Nice Guy here! Oh, don't worry. I'll send you flowers,
tell you that I really care about you like I've never cared about
anyone else, just so I can have my way with you before I cruelly
dump you, in front of all of your friends at a crowded bar.
I really get off on making you cry, and I get off even more when
I can sweet talk you into believing that I really care about you
so I can do it to you all over again.

Of course, I can take it as well as I can dish it out. So if you're
into making me promises, telling me you care about me, and then
telling me you want to go back to your old boyfriend, thats OK, too.
Or better yet, you can always tell me after 6 months of dating that
you were really never attracted to me, and I just happend to be
the right right person at the right time to help you get over your
last relationship, so you could move on to what you _really_ wanted
in life (but we will _always_ be friends, right?).


I _know_ you're out there! I look forward to your replies!