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From: fall217@cse.unl.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Appology demmanded from dchatterjee
Date: 28 Dec 1992 11:00:00 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: na
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dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:


   Please *DO NOT* try to negotiate or be pretentious and justify what you
    have done. (You  have issued a *physical threat*, period.) I still have
   the posting. Thus, crawl back to your creepy hole, and, remain there. The
    issue is dead, mr. ????. We need not discuss this further. You may bark
    on the network, but then doing it too much will strain your vocal chords.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     				( experence HAN!  )
 - deb chatterjee
     (a good samaritan) 
You have very good English but there are thing left which you dont 
know.  My English is not very good, I admit,and  I dont proof read my posting 
either.  If you dont want to appologize  then you have no right to ask for
one FROM OTHERS.

I dont care Mr "Good.........." what you do,  just dont try to act like 
police man and do not send any mail to me.  

My account will be expired before the start of spring semester.  If you can 
do more than that be my guest.  I dont want to threaten you.  I just wanted 
to uncover your real face behind a good samariton?  you are man of no character
.  You claim to have good english, will you please type an appology if not
from Mr shams but atleast from me.  
  In the end I will say please dont write " Good samariton ",  I am afraid of
bad samariton. 
syed agha saeed naqvi
Ps:  I still dont know the meaning of Samariton?  good may mean bad.
	(A very bad lesson of english from Mr dchatterjee)

Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:18865 soc.culture.bangladesh:7132 soc.culture.indian:42096
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Difference
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:09:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Dec27.190934.18808
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Dec25.073207.14917@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>
>Realising my moral responsibility I have already chocked your deb by
>sending his obnoxious e-mail to the MSA(muslim student association) 
>net. Aslo he rcieved a warning from the system manager in Concordia
>University to behave like a man :-))))))

It is quite obvious from you mannerisms that such admonitions to you would be
an utter waste of bandwidth.  Donkeys can only be enlightened with the 
pedagogy of a heavy stick.

Ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: pakistan is lilbit di
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:49:28 EST

To: rajesh@ivy (Rajesh Raman)

 RR> Israel was created by driving out Palestinians. The people who
 RR> helped in this were the Western allies.

 RR> Pakistan was created by partitioning India. The people who
 RR> helped were the British.

But what is "India"?  I mean, it is a collection of quite different
peoples.  So if one of them wants to self-govern, it is their right,
no? 

"India" had never been FULLY one nation (North to South, East to
West)... Till the Brits rolled in...


 RR> Mansoor you say that Muslims in India are not in good shape. I
 RR> disagree. I think that they are appeased and are in much better
 RR> shape than minorities in many, many places. Well, you might say

But the issue is not whether they are better off than in other
places, but how they fare in India...  the Ayodhya issue, and now
the threats to assail the Taj Mahal, shows how much their rights (as
granted by the Supreme Court) can be quashed by a determined
majority... sad... But I have hope...

 RR> I hope to keep this friendly-friendly.

At least some people on either side of the "religion-curtain"
willing to talk like humans... 


Faraz Rabbani

... I don't have a solution but I do admire the problem.
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From: rajesh@ivy (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Joke
Date: 24 Dec 1992 04:57:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]



	"You want to marry me?"
	"Yes."
	She tilted her head, did not smile, but merely inquired:
	"Why?"
	I looked her straight in the eye.
	"Because," I said.
	"Oh," she said. "That's a very good reason."
			  -- Erich Segal, Love Story.

--

Rajesh Raman

--

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Date: 25 Dec 1992 15:06:42 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec23.221008@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>
>How is the DEEN of Islam (if we were to accept that Islam was not "just another
>religion") different from the civic laws of today?
>

The so called First world's laws are based on
"equality" and not "justice".
That's the biggest difference.

>Why is it necessary to cause such convulsion in human history, cause so many
>innocent deaths to bring in something which, IMO, is already part of the civic
>laws of any civilised society?

Why was it necessary for the so called civilized societies like
USA to wage a 40 year war with USSR. To fill the poor Somalia
 with arms, fill ME with arms, spurning
hatred. Why is it necessary for the so called "civilized" world
who is currently the leader of the world to let Bosnians
die in humiliation.

More death and destruction has been inflicted on the world by this
so called "civilized" world of GB and USA, then any of the past
societies. I think USA killed more Japanese in a single day, then
all the people killed by Genghis Khan in all his life!!!!!!

>
>Take the spirit and intent of the laws in any society and one can see the
>amazing similarity in the guiding principles which shaped the laws of society.
>

But, then why is an American life more precious then a Bosnian's life?
Where is that amazing similarity?

>Why is there a compelling need to drive a wedge between peoples in the name of
>religion ?

Similar compulsion that drove USA and the West to wage a 40 year
cold war against communism.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:18988 soc.culture.indian:42429 soc.culture.bangladesh:7206
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Covenient memory lapse (Re: Other side of the coin
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:34:30 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Dec22.134433.13137@topaz.ucq.edu.au> salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
   >If the Bangladeshis
   >are really sincere and honest for reconciliation then they should
   >acknowledge the truth and admit their atrocities against the nonbengalis
   >which well match the ones of Serbians against Bosnian muslims.
-----
Do you have newsreports that give numbers supporting this comparison? Please 
post at your leisure.   

  >Some of them have asked for "stats" and "sources". What they really mean
  >is to show the evidence from the western media. 

Granted,western media is hardly a beacon of impartiality.But what other sources
do you have access to that are MORE reliable? Your eyewitness account? 
Pakistani newsreports?

   
   >Biharis were politically too insignficant to be noticed by the
   >western media. 
-----
Why? By July of that year, United States was only country still exporting
arms to Pakistan. Wouldn't western media have loved to ferret out stories
of Mukti Bahini atrOcities in order to weaken call of pacifists who were
demanding Nixon withdraw support for Yahya?


>Also that they were evacuated at very early stage from Dacca
>and Chittagong. Then how they got the information of the alleged atrocities
>of Pak army?
-----
Accounts from refugees in Indian camps were one primary source.	

>The articles I had read long ago which reflected the atrocities of the
>mukti bahni are unfortunately not available here and I don't remember the
>exact references. 
-------
That is very convenient for you. Do you expect to win an argument on this 
basis? "Oh, I left it in my jacket pocket which is at home."?? If you are
going to bother making accusations, at least spend the time to do the
research.


>But the truth doesn't lie in the "stats" and the "sources".
------
Only truth acceptable when you are trying to argue a point with a skeptical
audience.   


NM
--
Naeem Mohaiemen
216 774-1993
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From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Want to learn to read and speak Norwegian. Recommendations?
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:41:59 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <92347.0436332971047@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> 2971047@QUCDN.QueensU.CA writes:

   Nope Jon,
   there is no "CNN Norwegian".  There are also no short cuts.  I think you'll
   find learning Norwegian a real challenge.  Unless, of course, you're familiar
   with Germanic languages.

I think there is a short vawe radio service in norwegian, meant for
the norwgian sailors. So if it is for listening to the norwegian
language and hearing news from Norway, it might be worth a try to seek
it out.

Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no
From: trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: What is correct: ," or ", ?
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva



Don't know if this is the best group to ask, but it seems to be quite a lot
of language-capable people here, so why not...

What I am wondering about is the correct way to write the following:

(1) "No", he said.
   or
(2) "No," he said.

I would have thought (1) was correct, but reading Stephen King's "IT"
in English I notice he uses alternative (2).

Is there a different rule for this in English and Norwegian (or other
languages)? Or is (2) correct all the time? Or maybe (1)?

I use this opportunity to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New 
Year!

Cheers,
	Jostein
From: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Import/Export research
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm

In article <1992Dec29.003509.2278@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>...various items that international countries...
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What's that?

>...concerning the legal regulations...
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As opposed to illegal regulations? :-)

Contact the (trading section of) the nearest embassy/general consulate 
of the country you're interested in. They may be able to give you the 
information you want, or else they can tell you how you can get that 
information from the country in question.

Tomas
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            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

"These latter-day practitioners of surface chemistry reflect a lingering of the
adventurous spirit of the Enlightment" -- Charles Tanford
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Re: Skandinavisk
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:10:51 GMT

In article <4548.312.uupcb@thcave.no> kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes) writes:

>What do you mean by the term "skandinaviska"? Several persons in this
>conference use the term as they were talking about a language.

I use it to refer to the pidgin I use when speaking to Norwegians and 
DAnes:  Basically Swedish, but throwing in Nor/Dan words which are 
sufficiently different from their Swedish counterparts that misunderstnding 
could arise.  The more educated the Norwegian/Dane I'm speaking to, the less 
skandinaviska I use.  I assume they know enough Swedish to avoid the 
pitfalls.
From: ncjuul@diku.dk (Niels Christian Juul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Dansk mailing-list (pointers needed)
Summary: Contact address needed before moving to LA
Keywords: Danish software professionals in California
Date: 2 Jan 93 09:59:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hi !
Does anybody know the address of the mailing-list for Danes abroad,
I think it was something like 'dansk-mailing-list'; but what's the 
address.

As I'm moving to Riverside outside LA in California in less than two weeks,
I'll be very happy to get in touch with fellow countrymen in the area.

My family including my two kids will follow me in late February, and thus
I'll very much look for opportunities for them to practice their Danish.

DISCLAIMER: This request is NOT an indication that I, nor the family, wants
	    to isolate from the local community. Part of being abroad is of
	    course to learn from and associate with the 'locals'.

Thanks for any help,
Niels-Christian Juul
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: aki!wegmann (Frank Wegmann)
Subject: Re: Quoting
Keywords: Netiquette
Organization: Private/FRG
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:36:58 GMT

In article <FISCHER.92Dec22002931@orange.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk  
(Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
> 
> What's that silly :-) doing up there?
> 
> /Lars

Well, Lars, I don't want to flame but this is a standard way of communicating  
on the Net. Rotate :-) 90 degrees and you'll see a smiling face.

There are lots of other conventions. Perhaps you might look at some  
interesting ressources like the jargon file, distributed by the Free Software  
Foundation. There is a printed version called "The Hacker's Dictionary" which  
was edited by Eric Raymond (MIT Press, 2nd ed. 1991)

God jul to all of you!!

Frank

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: etxmow@garboc34.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg)
Subject: Re: Human Right of the Finns of Sweden in danger.
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:39:29 GMT

ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>You know most regions of Sweden should be according to this 5% rule bilingual.

       Or trilingual, or fourlingual, or fivelingual....
       Try to understand, Jarmo, that Sweden is not like Finland a
       country with only one large minority - we have many minorities
       and why should we treat Finns differently than ex-Yugoslavs, for
       instance? I'm not sure that Finnish immigrants are the largest
       group anymore. We have had a large Yugoslav minority since the
       '60s and this year *alone* approximately 70.000 have arrived.

       Mats Winberg

>regards,
>jarmo ryyti
>en finnj{vel

>Ps.Should Sweden be excluded from UN?
From: ahrvid@stacken.kth.se (Ahrvid Engholm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: What is correct: ," or ", ?
Date: 2 Jan 93 13:40:29 GMT
Organization: Stacken Computer Club, Stockholm, Sweden

In Swedish (I don't know about Norwegian) ", is the recommended.
  Swedish also use an alternate marking for quoting, the "tankestreck"
(thought hyphen), very common in fiction and in newspapers.
  - No, he said.
tthouuu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: rhtfest@cs.vu.nl (Festen RHT)
Subject: Re: Quoting
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:32:14 GMT

Lars Peter Fischer writes:
> What's that silly :-) doing up there?
 
Frank Wegmann replies:
> [..] this is a standard way of communicating on the Net.
> Rotate :-) 90 degrees and you'll see a smiling face.

So you're not serious? (Doesn't it mean: "just kidding" ?)

By the way. Those on the thread: What is correct: ", or ," really are a good
example of what's definitely wrong. They either don't understand or don't
care (such a pitty). Happy Xmas&NY.
-- 
~~~~~~~~RHT Festen, Amsterdam, The Netherlands~~~~~~~~~rhtfest@cs.vu.nl~~~~~~~~
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Latin on Finnish Text-TV and radio
Date: 30 Dec 92 12:43:50 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Dec30.015109.145@front.se>, samuel@front.se writes:
> Hello,
> Does anybody of you pepole living in Finland know why Finnish Television
> is broadcasting news on text-TV in LATIN LANGUAGE (page 365 on Finnish 
> text-TV) ? 
> I think this is a very nice thing, but I cannot figure out who are the 
> 'target audience' for these broadcasts. 
> /SS

The target audience is, of course, people able to understand Latin :-)
And, people interested in Latin.

Even the Finnish radio broadcasts weekly news in Latin (Nuntii latini):

They have promised to deal with various issues of modern life, like:

Phaenomenum tepidarii hortensis (The greenhouse effect), Mundus
post-sovieticus, Incrementum populi terrensis (the population explosion),
Pedifollium (football), Politica Americana, Redintegratio Europaea,
Cursus dollari, Fames (famine) Africaronum, Teniludium (tennis),
Interitus (disappearance) specierum, Res modernae.


Primum in mundo universo! (Radiophonia Finnica Generalis, Helsinkium)

with best regards
Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
                   urbs fennorum
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Closeness of the Nordic Languages
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:59:51 GMT
	<STEINARB.92Dec30141552@tindved.idt.unit.no>
	<1992Dec30.152400.16886@cfa281.harvard.edu>
Organization: Norwegian Inst. of Tech./University of Trondheim, Trondheim,
	Norway

>>>>> In article <1992Dec30.152400.16886@cfa281.harvard.edu>, gaetz@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Terrance J. Gaetz) writes:

> In article <STEINARB.92Dec30141552@tindved.idt.unit.no> steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:

>>> At least they belong to the same language family (indo-european
>>> languages, germanic languages, to be more specific).

>> To be even more specific:
>>  o English and German belongs to the eastern branch of the germanic
>>    branch of the Indo-european family of languages.

> A minor correction:
>  o English and German belong to the *western* branch.  I believe the
>    eastern branch is extinct; it is mainly known from a fragments of
>    a 4th century bible written in Gothic.

Hooowl! When will I *ever* learn to read what I just have written
before I post it. You're right, I'm wrong (even though I meant to be
right and I would have been if I had stopped to think about in which
direction the sun sets and so on and so on...:-)

Anyways I would just like to wish y'all a happy new year!

That's "Godt Nyttaar!" (USASCII) or "Godt Nytter!" (ISO 8859-1) in
Norwegian... :-)

 - Steinar
From: nkjrm@taxus.uib.no (Rolf Manne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Learning Norwegian
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:12:21 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen

Several arguments for learning either Bokml or Nynorsk Norwegian have
been presented under this heading. One, which is most important, is that
there are very few textbooks for the person wanting to learn Nynorsk, and
to my knowledge there are none which can be compared with the best ones for
learning Bokml. In fact, Norwegian courses for immigrants and refugees are
almost exclusively taught in Bokml, even in the Nynorsk speaking areas in
Western Norway. The courses offered for foreign students at the Norwegian
universities are exclusively in Bokml.

Rolf Manne
e-mail Rolf.Manne@uib.no
From: olems@ulrik.uio.no (Ole Michael Selberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: What is correct: ," or ", ?
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:22:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Oslo University

In article <TT.92Dec21182600@sulla.jyu.fi>, tt@sulla.jyu.fi (Tapani
Tarvainen) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Dec21.143855.5007@dxcern.cern.ch> trones@dxcern.cern.ch (Jostein Lodve Trones) writes:
> 
> >What I am wondering about is the correct way to write the following:
> 
> >(1) "No", he said.
> >   or
> >(2) "No," he said.
> 

Type (1) seems to be the rule in Swedish, Finnish, German, French, Russian
...
Type (2) is used in Norwegian, Danish, English ...

By the way: if you're concerned about national correctness, you should also
watch out when you choose your quotation marks:

English:   ``No,++ he said
Norwegian: ,,Nei,++ sa han   OR   <<Nei,>> sa han
German:    ,,Nein``, sagte er   OR   >>Nein<<, sagte er
 
Ole Michael Selberg
Institutt for oesteuropeiske og orientalske studier
Universitetet i Oslo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic