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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Question Concerning PATH Variable
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:20:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <713751498snx@tgm.CAM.ORG> eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier) writes:
>That's a common DOS limitations, though the limit is 127, not 80.  Some
>people on this newsgroup have claimed that the 127 character limitation
>was with the length of command lines, not with the actual environment
>variables.  I don't think so, i.e. the following trick does _not_ work:
>
>SET PATH=C:\;....(127 character path)...
>SET PATH=%PATH%;......

That's because the %PATH% variable is expanded into it's full (127
character) length before use.  It's the same old input-buffer limit.

>I know of some PD programs that allow to fool DOS into accepting longer
>path names, but this does not work with all DOS applications.

They successfully increase the PATH size.  It fails with apps because
the apps use a static 128-byte buffer to hold the path, and a longer
one overflows the buffer.  Kind of stupid, if you ask me.



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From: kelley@vet.vet.purdue.edu (Stephen Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:04:34 GMT
Organization: Carps Underground Contract Bridge League

In article <1992Aug12.171206.305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dtl8v@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Douglass Thornton Lamb) writes:
- 
- but you have to look ahead, right?  Microsoft has already
- begun work on the Windows 4.0 software to replace Windows NT.

So, is NT sort of like the Windows/386 of the 90's ?

Steve
	Caffeine makes my neurons twinkle -- Bonnie McCafferty
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 14.4k modems
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:28:27 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <Bt8y6w.1o5@acsu.buffalo.edu> tjc@acsu.buffalo.edu (Thomas J. Corsalini) writes:
> 
> 	I am going to purchase a new modem and would appreciate feedback on
> the following points. 
> 	
> 	a) I was going to purchase a v.32 modem but it would appear that the
> 	14.4k models, many with FAX included, are not that much more. I have
> 	seen ads that range from $250 - $500+. I don't have an immediate
> 	need for a FAX but...why upgrade again soon. Anyone have experience
> 	with any of the less expensive brands/models?

I am using a Supra V32bis faxmodem and it works just fine. The speaker only
works for the first few minutes, then ceases to function. I usually have it
off anyway and if I want to debug a problem, I just turn it off for a couple
of minutes and the sound comes back. It doesn't appear to negotiate fall-back
to lower baud rates on bad lines very well, but this may be addressed in the
ROM upgrade due out soon. 

> 
> 	b) I do not currently have an I/O card with a 16550 UART. If I am
> 	working predominantly working under OS/2 can I safely assume that I
> 	do NOT actually need the FIFO buffer of the 16550? Does OS/2
> 	suffiently buffer the com port? Would the modem suffer a performance
> 	degradation under DOS?

Get a 16550AFN (or the newer PC16550). Remember, the OS has little to do with
whether or not your hardware can keep up with the rate of incoming data.

> 
> 	c) It seems that only the internal models have a 16550 integrated
> 	into their design. Can someone explain the logic of this.

Putting a UART in an external modem would be pointless, as it would stil have
to be plugged into a serial port connected to the PC's bus. THAT port needs
the 16550.........

> 	d) Finally, without starting a flame war, would anyone care to
> 	voice an opinon on a particular brand? I have seen good prices
> 	for the Supra 14.4, HST Sportster, and Practical Periphials - in
> 	accending order ;>) spelled CO$T.

As above.

> 
> 	It is my intent to avoid a costly mistake by soliciting your help
> be it by experience or opinion. Thank you to all that reply...Tom

Steve
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CHKDSK C: /F:3 ...???
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:44:52 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston


The last time I tried specifying /F:3, it told me that that option was not
valid for HPFS disks. Why does everyone keep mentioning it? Is my CHKDSK
messed up? (BTW, yes, I tried it after booting from the install floppies.)
-- 
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jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
  "Anything that an F-4 can outturn is not maneuverable." -- Mary Shafer
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2
From: vandevek@cse.unl.edu (James Vandevegt)
Subject: Re: Where is my DOS C: partition
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:18:48 GMT

wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson) writes:


>	I have just installed OS/2 2.0 on a 300 Mbyte disk that already
>had a 32 Mb DOS5.0 C: partition and a 70 Mb DOS5.0 extended partitioned
>with the logical name D:.  OS/2 seems to work fine (perhaps when I read
>the manual it will tell me how to shut it down), but C: is now the
>70 Mbyte bootable HPFS OS/2 partition and my DOS C: partition is
>unavailable.
>	I would like to know what to do to have OS/2 recognize both
>my DOS C: and D: partitions (although they need not keep those names),
>so that when I run OS/2, I have three partitions.
>Bill Pearson

Remember, Only one of your many primary partitions on your hard drive
may be active at any one time.  Inactive partitions can *NOT* be
accesses.  Logical partitions are accessable by any active partition.
To get OS/2 shut down and boot up DOS 5, you have to have the boot 
manager installed.  If not, booting off a floppy and using FDISK from
DOS 5 on the floppy might do the trick.  To have access to all files
all the time, you have to use the dual boot feature where both
operating systems reside on the same primary boot partition and
you can't use the high performance file system 'cause it's incompatible
with DOS.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: Adding programs to pop-up menus: QUESTION
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:14:01 GMT

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>1) Let it know I want seamless Windows program from the pop-up menu
>2) Let it know I want a WINDOWED DOS session for the DOS app
>3) Also: How do I lauch a command.com or something and have it by default
>come up as a windowed DOS box?

This is really easy...

Just create a program object with the settings you desire.  (Double-click it
to make sure it works like you want it.)

Then instead of typing in a program name in the name entryfield, use the
"Find Program" button to select the program object that you just created.

______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: cloyce@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Cloyce.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problems with external commands (XCOPY, CHKDSK)
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:17:13 GMT
Reply-To: cloyce@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Cloyce.)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: cloyce@donald.cc.utexas.edu

Hi, all.  I'm having a couple of problems with XCOPY and CHKDSK.
OS/2 (and me) can't find XCOPY anywhere.  I haven't modified the path at all
(well, no deletions, anyway), and I have (manually) searched every directory
on the disk for XCOPY*.  No luck.  If it's any help, I'm on a 110MB HPFS
partition.
CHKDSK works fine, except when I need to do it with the /f:x parameter.  I
boot off of a floppy (created with makeboot.cmd, HPFS FS driver installed).  I
can access the HPFS partition, access files, run programs, etc.  I *do* run
CHKDSK off of the floppy.  I always get the message saying 'The file system 
type is HPFS.  The HPFS program is being started'.  When I run it normally
(from a session I booted on the HD), I get the stats and everything.  After
booting off the floppy, I just get the message and then the prompt.  Any
ideas?

Please reply via e-mail, as this group has too much volume for me to follow
reliably.

Thanks for any help!
Cloyce
cloyce@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PM arrow key problems
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:47:29 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Aug8.005501.1@woods.ulowell.edu> stearnsk@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>My arrow and edit keys (insert, home, pg up,...) do not work
>in PM programs. I have no clue why. They work fine in DOS, OS/2 and WIN-OS/2
>but not in PM apps.
>My system is a Wang EXEC 386sx with 6megs.

Have you checked to make sure that any DIP switch or jumper on the
keyboard itself is switched to "AT" or "PC/AT"?

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From: rshelley@riscy.simplot.com (Robert Shelley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Central Point Backup (for Windows) under OS/2
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:43:15 GMT
Organization: J. R. Simplot Co., Boise Id.

Maynard has a good tape backup system that works with OS/2 V2.
It handles backing up of EA's and restoring them also.  When
you RESTORE it asks if you want to restore the EA's also so
you can see the potential for this.  I am not at work right
now so I don't have their address and phone number and I am
not sure what drives they support, but if you want the number
drop me a line and I will send it to you.  I am using the 2.0
Gig DAT drive with this software the drive is also from
Maynard.

Robert         rshelley@riscy.simplot.com
From: bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SET FILEC under OS/2 2.0???
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:13:08 GMT
Organization: Lule} H|gskolas datorf|rening ( Ludd )

In <1992Aug20.081508.28238@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:

>Stephenson Daniel A (das9674@usl.edu) wrote:
>> Hi there.  Is there something akin to set filec for OS/2 2.0?
>> THis is also know as 'file completion'.  Those 255 char names
>> are great, but wildcards don't always do the trick...

>4OS2 provides such functionality.

It should perhaps be mentioned that the filename completion function in 4os2
is a little buggy with HPFS filenames (8.3 always seems to work). I've reported
this tp JP Software, and they've been able to reproduce the behaviour I
told them about, so I guess they're working on it. The problem is filenames
containing characters not allowed under DOS.

>-- 
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>Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roger@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Help! Deleted files on HPFS
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:19:51 GMT

In article <66425@hydra.gatech.EDU>, rp14@prism.gatech.EDU (PRADO,RONALD J) writes:
> Are there any programs available yet to recover deleted files on
> a HPFS drive?  I've noticed the undelete command in OS/2 but 
> unfortunately I didn't have my config.sys file set up to use it
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	How should the config.sys be set up to do this?


Roger C. Green,	Faculty of Medicine                      Phone: (709)737-6884
Memorial University , St. John's, Newfoundland.          FAX  : (709)737-7010
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 15:44:51 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Upgrading to HPFS from FAT

It seems like today you are STILL missing some things :))

You CANNOT backup an OS/2 system disk, via DOS and RESTORE it afterwards.
Especially desktop, uses a lot of extended attribs, which do NOT get
backed up by DOS..

Regards, -turgut
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Hidden Files, Defragmentation, Backup
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:27:56 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

David Charlap (dic5340@hertz.njit.edu) wrote:
> >    \os2\system\boot.os2
> 
> I don't know what this is.  Since it's in a subdirectory, I'd assume
> you can move it, since there's no gurantee where subdirectory-based
> files end up.

The above file is the os2 boot sector that DUAL BOOT writes over the DOS
one when switching. If you use DUAL BOOT you should be able to find
autoexec.dos, autoexec.os2, config.dos, config.os2, boot.dos and
boot.os2 in certain places and at certain times.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 - A real memory hog!
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:54:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <PSHUANG.92Aug15205530@ninja.mit.edu> pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang) writes:
>What number should the operating system report? (a) number of physical
>RAM pages which are 100% uncommitted, e.g. never been used by OS/2 for
>anything, that still contain whatever value the RAM got filled with by
>the cold boot BIOS memory test? (b) number of physical RAM pages which
>OS/2 could make available if it threw out all the pages containing code
>and data that are discardable, e.g. could be reloaded from the
>executable and resource files if they are needed again? (c) number of
>pages reported by answer [b] plus all the pages in the swapfile which
>are not currently being used? One can make an argument that any one of
>these answers is the "correct" one.

OS/2 has a system call for free memory.  It returns the size of the
largest un-allocated contiguous block.  This is an OS/2 1.x call.  On
OS/2 2.0, however, it always returns 16MB or the total size of system
RAM, whichever is smaller, so this isn't quite useful.  There may be a
new OS/2 2.0 call to replace it.

>Even under Windows 3.x you run into this ambiguity. On one of the
>machines I use that has 32Mb of physical memory, the Program Manager's
>About dialog says there's over 100Mb of memory available. That's because
>there's a 96Mb swapfile allocated. I don't know what the size of the
>swapfile on your OS/2 system is, but I think that OS/2 is probably
>reporting either the numbers from methods [a] or [b], whereas Windows
>3.1 is clearly indicating the numbers from method [c].

yep.  And if you "bean-count" memory by allocating pages until you run
out, and then free them - you get the space remaining on your hard
disk.  Not really useful!


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From: henshaw@emperor.gatech.edu (Andy Henshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: win-os2 in vm dos session
Keywords: Windows, CD-ROM, VM
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:46:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Originator: henshaw@emperor

Is it possible to run win-os2 in a VM DOS session. If so, how?
I need the ability to run a windows program with my cd-rom,
which can only be run from a VM DOS session.

Thanks,

Andy Henshaw
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Template Blues...
From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:23:09 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <17AUG199200400997@vms2.iscs.nus.sg>, nuscss1@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps) writes:
> 	My templates seem to be pretty dead. I double click on its icon,
> 	and i get a error message tat goes "Program has encountered a
> 	problem and cannot continue." Wat am I supposed to do to fix this ?
> 	Thanx.
> 
> 						. kilroy .
> 

Why are you double-clicking on templates?  You're supposed to "move" them, not
launch them.  (By "move" I mean, drag with the MB2, as if you were trying
to relocate the icon ... For templates, this is the equivilent of "tearing one
off of the pad.")  You'll then be able to assign an executable to the icon (if
it's the PROGRAM template you're working with) through the normal settings
notebook.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Install OS/2 with Genius Mouse
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:32:45 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug17.092218.1@atmo1.atmo.arizona.edu> jones@atmo1.atmo.arizona.edu writes:
>
>A friend of mine is having difficulty completing his OS/2 install.
>I haven't actually looked at his system yet, but he reports that
>his difficulty is his Genius Mouse.  He has a model GM-6.  I will
>take a copy of the faq, drivers, and a kernel over to his house
>this evening.  The question is:  Has anyone installed OS/2 with
>this mouse and is there a definite problem and fix involved?

Yes. Yes. Yes.  This should be in the FAQ by now, if it isn't already.

For users of a Genius mouse (any model), you have one of two choices:

1) Set it to Microsoft-compatible mode (as per your owner's manual)
   and use the Serial or Bus driver.  You might also be able to use
   the PS/2 driver for the Bus mouse.  Setting MS mode on most Genius
   mice involves holding down a button while powering-on the machine
   (not while rebooting).  Note that in MS-mode, the center button
   will be useless, since the MS/IBM driver doesn't support it.

2) Leave the mouse in its default (Mouse-Systems compatible) mode and
   use the Logitech (serial or bus) driver.  This will also work, with
   the following change: Your "right" button will now be the center
   button.  The actual right button will do nothing.  This will extend
   into DOS sessions.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ekl@fics.uucp
Subject: on-the-fly disk compression available
Organization: Kvam data as
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:20:52 GMT

I found the following on the IBM Developers Assistance Program BBS
in Europe today. I'm sure it is of interest!

Eirik

==================================================================

 Area:    N1 News and
 Date:    08-20-92 16:24 (Public, Read) Active
 Subject: Disk Compression Device D

Disk Compression software available for OS/2 2.0!!!          
                                                                      
A company called Proportional Software has developed (and 
received an award from IBM at the Windows+PM conference in 
Boston for) a disk compression device driver for OS/2 2.0!  
                                                       
                                                                      
Their phone number is 1-800-666-4OS2, and their fax number            
(phone is pretty busy) is 1-800-955-4OS2.                             
                                                                      
Price is $129.95, $99.95 thru December.                 

More details:                                                            
                                                                         
The product is called DCF/2(Data Compression Facility).                  
                                                                         
From their data sheet(Proportional Software Corporation):                
                                                                         
Proportional Software's new DCF/2 is an "on-the-fly" disk compression    
facility for OS/2 2.0.  It's fast, reliable disk compression             
techniques work with all logical OS/2 2.0 disk devices and are           
compatible with all types and sizes of disks.                            
                                                                         
...                                                                      
                                                                         
The DCF/2 automatically tokenizes repeating strings and collapses byte   
ranges into compressed, logical disk sectors(LDS).  The DCF/2 manages    
a highly-optimized Disk Allocation Table(DAT) in the DCF/2 virtual disk  
file which allows Compression Level 1(CL1) algorithms to achieve local   
disk access speeds.  When OS/2 requests disk information, the DCF/2      
uses the DAT to access the LDS's, and the information is decompressed    
into its original format.  CL2 adds to this with an additional layer of  
tokenizing, collapsing, and crunching of the data into LDS's which       
results in addittional disk savings with slightly slower access times.   

COMMENT ADDED BY IBM person who called up the company ....

"The only negative was that he said the product had not been       
extensively tested, so I would be real cautious about putting on  
your machine, unless you are willing to lose data."

Hmmm....


--- Maximus/2 2.00
 * Origin: DevNet (8:888/44)

==================================================================
From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problem installing ES running 4OS2 1.0
Date: 21 Aug 1992 03:58:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <92233.211113FDBAQ03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> FDBAQ03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) writes:
>I recently registered 4OS2 and can't live without it. The only problem
>I've had so far regards the installation of Extended Services (OS/2 2.0).

I found that,too. Change to CMD.EXE as your primary shell just to install
ES. There doesn't seem to be a problem RUNNING under 4OS2

Richard Stanton
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc