From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Somebody please get Othman Ahmad off the newsgroup!
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:23:04 GMT

Ahmad F. Shaarani (afs2@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
: 
: I've been logging on to this newsgroup for almost a year. I can still
: remember the time when the newsgroup was still not INFECTED by 
: Mr. Othman Ahmad. Ahhhh, those were the good old days.

Just bear with me for a few more months.
Then you can proceed with your boring old days without any honest confrontation.

: 
: It amazes me how a graduate (I'm assuming here) student like him has
You're partly right but actually I'm a lecturer here.

: the time to write all the crap that he's been putting on the newsgroup.
: I don't blame the people from the other ASEAN countries for wanting 
: a separate newsgroup, one which does not have Othman Ahmad and his 
: stale arguments. So do we Malaysians (most of us, anyway).

Even if you have a separate newsgroup, it will not prevent me or some other
spoilers from joining them.

: 
: As for Othman Ahmad, I hope he reads this:

I'm replying to this so that you know that I'm reading it.

: Encik Othman, what the Malays are doing to the other races is wrong.

It would be more informative to tell us which ones are wrong. Did I say the
Malays didn't do wrong to the chinese? I thought I was emphasising that
they also do that to me, also a bumi, and some other good Malays.

: Perhaps the definition for right and wrong differs greatly among 
: individuals, and mine may be different from yours. I use the standard
: based on the fact that we are all creatures and servants of the Almighty
: and it is wrong for us to discrminate on the difference that HE alone
: decided. 

He also gives us the brain to know which ones are rich and which ones aren't.
Don't you want to use your brain?

: The Chinese and the Indians (maybe not so much the older generation as
: the younger one) are a loyal lot, only if you knew. Or perhaps you
: chose not to see their loyalty. They do not deserve to be treated as second

Maybe I'm too old to notice the younger generations.

: -class citizens. It is morally wrong. Please do open your eyes to the
: truth.

Who are 2nd class citizens? The starving ones or the rich ones?
Please open your eyes to the truth.

: As a Muslim, I believe in justice. If one does something bad to someone,
                            ^^^^^^^
One of the Islamic principles of justice is for the rich to donate to the
poor.
: even if the doer is Muslim and it is done to a non-Muslim, God Almighty
: would see to it that the doer pays for his bad deed. In school, I was
: taught that God would always take the side of the oppressed, and I truly 

	Right. I hope you can go back to the kampungs especially in the
east coast, and tell us who are the oppressed.

: that if we do not stop this injustice, grave consequences will befall the
: Malays. We might gain materialistically, but what is that in the long run?

Any injustice will cause grave consequences not only to chinese but also to
other muslims as well. The aim is not to gain materialistically but to survive.
If you have listened to the UMNO speeches, you'll understand the Malay
sentiments.

: 
: To all the Malays who support Othman's stand, I hope that you will open 
: your eyes to the suffering of our fellow Malaysians, our neighbors, our
: friends. We need them as much as they need us. We are different, but
: do not let physcial differences separates us.
	Don't forget your own people. Beware of lies and exaggereations.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet