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From: Guy.Harris@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: POSIX: what it does, what it doesn't do (was Re: NT Under SCO Unix)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:49:49 -0100

Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>|> Many people have written that the "POSIX under WNT" may be a con, a
>|> way to attract software development under the false promise of source
>|> compatibility with Unix.
>
>You are the first person I have heard say so. MS folk have repeatedly promised
>full POSIX compatibilty.

"Full POSIX compatibility", if that means compatibility with 1003.1 and
1003.2, doesn't come close to "source compatibility with UNIX", nor even
with any very interesting *subset* of UNIX.  Many, many interesting UNIX
utilities won't port, unless the "fully POSIX-compatible" system
provides UNIX API's not in POSIX as well.

For example, will NT provide, in its *IX subsystem:

	sockets? (I suspect so, if WinSock looks reasonably like BSD
	   sockets.)

	various X11 and X11 toolkit API's (NOTE: not necessarily an X11
	   client implementation; it could be something that looks like
	   an X11 client *API*, but that talks to the NT window system
	   instead.)  Maybe, maybe not.

If NT provides XPG4 compliance, as I've heard claims it will, that
probably comes a *lot* closer to something interesting to UNIX
developers.  Of course, I suspect XPG4 isn't a single monolithic lump,
either - you may not have to supply all the bits of XPG4 to be
compliant, just the required bits and the optional bits you choose to
supply.

XPG4 probably has XTI, which is derived from TLI but provides the same
general capabilities as sockets.  XPG3 has the X11 API, although not the
Xt API nor any particular X toolkit, so XPG4 probably has at least that
as well.  Dunno whether NT, if XPG4-compliant, will provide them,
however.

>BTW, you can't be "source compatible" with Unix, because there is really no
>single thing that is "Unix". Without using a standard layer such as POSIX it
>is very difficult to write sophisticated code that will run on different
>versions of Unix. Take a look at the source to xterm! :-)

And then note that pseudo-ttys, for example, aren't covered by any
current POSIX standard, so a "xterm" written only to current POSIX
standards would look like;

	#include <stdio.h>

	int
	main(int argc, char **argv)
	{
		(void) fprintf(stderr, "Sorry, xterm isn't available\n");
		return 2;
	}

(not to mention the fact that X ain't in any POSIX standard, either).

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: katz@halcyon.com (Alan Katz)
Subject: Xlib for NT (Win32)
Keywords: xlib, nt, winsock, tcp-ip
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:26:19 GMT



Greetings,

We at the Adonis Corporation (Redmond, WA) need to write X programs
which will run under Windows NT and display on remote X servers.
(Note that this is NOT the converse problem of displaying X programs
on Windows NT, which we know many others are working on).

We thus need an NT Xlib (currently no need for any X toolkits) and
would like to know if anybody has one or is in the process of porting
it.

Since the NT WinSock interface is very similar to Berkeley sockets, it
looks like a port (say from the MIT Xlib distribution) would be 
pretty straightforward.  

We would like to hear from anyone who either has such a port or might
be interested in jointly working on one.  We'd also like to hear from
anybody who is writing X applications under either Windows 3.x or 
Windows NT.

Please respond via e-mail to Katz@Adonis.Com (even though this message
is being posted from another address).

				Thanx!

				Alan Katz  (Katz@Adonis.Com)
From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Multiuser NT???
Date: 10 Oct 92 11:07:42 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

>This is really addressed to the guys at Microsoft:
>There really is *a lot* of confusion about this. I suggest that you take three
>experienced NT programmers and give them the task of implementing telnetd,
>rshd and ftpd respectively. Lock them all in a room with three NT machines and

>Failing that, how about an effort among some developers to get PD versions of
>these services out as soon as possible?

I was talking with Mr. Alistair Banks at Microsoft, about me writing a
NT Remote login solution (which would include a telnetd daemon).  I have
a similar solution from another operating system, and only wanted the
Windows NT SDK for free (with paper documentation), and I would write
the software and release it as shareware.

They weren't interested in distributing the Windows NT SDK for free, and
thus I won't write the software, until Windows NT has established itself
as a real competitor on the market.  Yes, I know the SDK is cheap, but
I still remember the OS/2 2.0 SDK from Microsoft, and WON'T pay for
any beta/pre-release software from Microsoft any more.

Mikael Wahlgren
From: fmh@monsoon.com (Francis Hogle)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Telnet Slow
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:26:08 EDT
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc.

jones@hal.uvm.edu (Mike Jones) writes:

> So, are we talking slow computer, or slow window system/OS ?


Probably SLOW DRIVER.

francis
From: aroby@andersen.co.uk (Tony Roby)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Win NT, some simple questions
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:06:24 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)

In <TORSTEIN.92Oct6135926@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no> 
torstein@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (torstein hansen) writes:

>2) If I'm correct, you may buy the pre-beta release in the States for
>approx. 60-70 US$. In an ad. here in Norway, they are charging equiv.
>~340 US$. Is it possible to buy direct from the USA? Will Microsoft
>have any objections? Will I be entitled to any upgrades? ...?

I asked Microsoft about this when I was in the States recently.  They will
not sell a copy to go outside the US since it infringes the license
agreement.  It probably contains top secret data encryption code which
would endanger US national security if anyone got their hands on it !

Tony
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: How to run net cmds at boot time?
X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine: others available on request.
Reply-To: Kevin Broadey <kbroadey@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
	<1992Oct02.212342.24472@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:06:15 GMT

>>>>> In article <1992Oct02.212342.24472@microsoft.com>, "Ben" ==
>>>>> beng@microsoft.com (Ben Goetter) writes:

Ben> Instructions for automatic "net start" on the PDK release:

Ben> Start regedit.  Open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
Ben> Look therein for the service you want to autostart (e.g.
Ben> LanmanServer).  Set the Start value of the service to 2 (this is
Ben> SERVICE_AUTO_START if you know the Win32 Service Control Manager
Ben> APIs).

I've just tried this for TcpipSvc on my Olivetti PWS4000 (MIPS R4000)
and it doesn't work.  I'm logged on as "Administrator" and I get
"Insufficient privilege".

I tried using the User Manager to grant the Administrators group every
single privelege, logged out and back in, and still couldn't do it.

Heeeeeeeeeeeelp!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: brianmo@microsoft.com (Brian Moran)
Subject: Windows NT consultants for directory wanted
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:36:17 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Consultant  Windows NT

Many times I have been asked for a list of consultants with Windows NT 
expertise,  so I have decided to create such a list.  If you are such a
consultant, please email me with your name, address, phone-n-fax, email 
addresses,and particular sub-areas of experience.  It would help if you put in 
your email subject line CONSULTANT LISTING so I can sort it from the other 250
messages I get a day (don't worry if you forget). 

If you'd like to get the eventual list, feel free to email me. I'll post it to 
the usual public places. I make no guarantees or representation about the
accuracy of any information, nor skill of any  agency or person  listed..

The information that I collect will be used for no other purpose; I can't vouch
for what other people will use it for once it's posted, though.

-Brian Moran  		brianmo@microsoft.com
  Developer Relations Group
	Microsoft Corporation
(Disclaimer: If something I say gets me in trouble, well, then, I obviously 
  didn't mean it.)
From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Microsoft Developer Network CD-ROM
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:28:58 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Oct7.203241.27106@src.honeywell.com>, dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Richard D. Schlotfeldt) writes:

|>   - Does the software for the Microsoft Developer Network
|>     CD-ROM work under Windows NT without the DOS drivers?
|>     In other words, am I barking up the wrong tree? Can I
|>     just forget about DOS drivers and rely on Windows NT
|>     completely?
|>

|>
|> Dick Schlotfeldt     dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com
|>

I tried installing the "Microsoft Developer Network CD-ROM" twice
under NT and it installed OK but the index and topics windows were
blank.  I called the support number and the CD support guys had not
used NT and did not know if it would run or not.  Upon asking further
they came back and told me "next release" it would.  I forgot to ask if
they meant next release of NT or the Developer CD though.

Someone else told me that it could be installed unde Win3.1 not NT.

Seems like it almost worked thought.  Wonder what the problem was?

Anyone else got it to work?
-- 
Dave Kolb                     Opinions are mine not SAS'
SAS Institute, Inc.           EMAIL:      sasdxk@unx.sas.com
SAS Campus Drive - J206       Phone:      (919) 677-8000 x6827
Cary, NC  27513-2414 USA      FAX:        (919) 677-8123
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: WIN NT Beta?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:18:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft

The beta program for Windows NT will only be open to end-users. 
Developers can get the October beta of the OS in the October
release of the Win32 SDK for Windows NT. As we said in the letter
that we sent to all US SDK owners, the Oct SDK will ship before
the end of the month. 

-Dwight
SDK Product Manager

P.S. For all the end-users out there, here's a message from Compuserve
on how to apply for the beta program.

Msg #: 12302 S2/General Discussion
    Oct 14 1992 10:26AM
Sb: WinNT
Fm: Steve Fait [Microsoft] 75300,3143
To: MICHAEL STEWART 71441,2724

Hi Michael,

Currently the only way to apply to the beta program is to either:

  1) Send a letter to

       Microsoft
       One Microsoft Way
       Redmond, WA 98052

       Attn: Windows NT Beta Program 4/1

  2) Send a FAX to 936-7329 also with the note "Attn: Windows
     NT Beta Program" on it.

In either case you should include your name, company name, hardware
configuration and any other relevant information. We prefer typed applications
if possible.

 Thanks!

   Steve





Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rrohbeck@kboeng.enet.dec.com (Ralf-Peter Rohbeck)
Subject: Re: MEP editor
Reply-To: rrohbeck@kboeng.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Int. GmbH
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:07:21 GMT


In article <1992Oct5.105340.1@mee.tcd.ie>, cnolan@mee.tcd.ie writes:
>ME (Microsoft Editor) came with C 5.1.  The docs came with it then if you know
>anyone who still has the docs.  Brief was a much better option then, I'm sure
>that hasn't changed.
>
Exactly. It runs nicely in a command window. Just the screen output is kinda
slow.

Ralf-Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: steveng@world.std.com (Stephen Ng)
Subject: Re: RE : Help VB talking 2 DOS
Organization: Sedona Software Consulting
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:01:32 GMT

To send keystrokes to a dos application, you can use one of the many
shareware programs such as doskey to push keystrokes into the queue.
Norton Utilities'  ndos program has a keystack command which will
enter keystrokes into your dos application.   

--Steve
From: unixlan+@pitt.edu (Wei-ming William Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Wanted: MSC 6.0a (Yes, !! 6.0a !!) (Please read if you have
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:45:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


***************************************************************************
 Due to the system problem, the machine I posted this messages last
time won't accept your reply.  So please, if you got trouble, try to
reply to this account again: unixlan@unix.cis.pitt.edu.  Sorry for the trouble.
			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
***************************************************************************

Hi Folks,

I know this is not the best place to do so, but I need your help!!

Don't say I am crazy.  Yes, I need your olde version of MSC!!  My old libraries
can support nothing but MSC 6.0, so.....  If you have a copy of MSC 6.0a
gathering dust in your shelf, now is the best time to send it out.  It does not
have to be in the mint condition, but at least descent.  Manuals must be 
complete.  And if you still have your registration card, that will be perfect 
(although not necessary).  Just remember, IT MUST BE 6.0a, NOT 6.0.  Please 
reply by e-mail.  Thanx in advance. (One more: 3.5" is preferred,
although 5.25" is OK.)

Willie

"UNIX(tm), X & LAN --- The Promise of the Future!!"
"And OS/2 V2.0!!"

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: dem21178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Montroy)
Subject: Visual Basic 1.0 problems with LanMan 2.1a
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:45:45 GMT

I am in charge of a computer site in which we run Microsoft Lan Manager 
version 2.1a, and it seems that with our remote boot clients, which run
DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1, when we try to run any VB app, we get a General
Protection Fault in the VB runtime library, vbrun100.dll.  This problem seems
limited to remote boot workstations, and the problem surfaced when we went to
LM 2.1a.

Has anyone seen this problem, and has anyone fixed it (hopefully)?  Please 
let me know either way.  Thanks!

Dan Montroy
d-montroy@uiuc.edu

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University of Illinois
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From: frank@smartstar.com (Frank Dziuba)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Borland C++ and Application Frameworks 3.1 for sale
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:42:14 GMT
Organization: SmartStar Corp. / Signal Technolgy Inc.


I have an unopened copy of Borland C++ with Application Frameworks V3.1
for MS-Windows and DOS for sale. Only $495 O.B.O.

send E-mail or call

Frank Dziuba
frank@smartstar.com
(805) 685-8000
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 14:32:11 +0100
From: Juergen_Schuh@softstream.fido.de (Juergen Schuh)
Subject: Re: to small menus in dialogs (help)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
X-Comment-To: gebhardt@picasso.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Gebhardt)
Organization: floating point formats not linked 


Hi Michael,

I guess, there is a simple solution to your problem. Probably your dialog box 
was created with WS_DLGFRAME. If so, you ran into a Windows bug. Dialog boxes 
with WS_DLGFRAME may not have a menu since the menu is painted incorrect. The 
same refers to using a minimize box.

The best solution is to use WS_BORDER instead of WS_DLGFRAME. OK, the box will 
look slightly different, but messing around with painting the non-client-area 
of the box is far more complicated.

so long
JS
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:51:23 +0100
From: Thomas_Hornschuh@softstream.fido.de (Thomas Hornschuh)
Subject: Re: Turbo Debugger / Win and a Diamond Speed Stealth
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
X-Comment-To: (Qiang Zheng)
Organization: SoftStream Development, Dortmund, Germany 

QZ> For short, there are six .DLL files for six different video drives.
QZ> I am not sure whether there is on for your diamond driver.  Anyway,

The dimaonds stealth is a S3 accelerator card. If it is used in S3 mode, 
Borlands S3.DLL must be used.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: Re: VB accessing font names (FontName)
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:15:41 GMT

Hello!
Have you installed ATM ?   VB may not work with ATM when using/printing fonts.
If you don't use ATM, you will meet a problem that some fonts shown on screen
that can't printed on printer. It may be solved by using API call BitBlt .

If you don't use ATM and still cannot print fonts, put your program to this
group and we will check for you!
									Y.F. Wu



Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: gebhardt@picasso.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Gebhardt)
Subject: to small menus in dialogs (help) 
Keywords: dialog, menu
Organization: University of Aachen, W-Germany
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 13:53:49 GMT



 I'm trying to write a programm with a dialog as mainwindow. I've created the    
resources with Borlands Resource Workshop and i've specified my menu as 
menu of my dialog in the resource. 

My problem is that the menu of this dialog has the wrong size, and the area     
between the menu and the dialog is not updated through the draw functions 
of he menu or the dialog. 

Thank you for any solution to this problem ?

Miche
From: stherien@sobeco.com (s.therien)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: zortech c++ v3.0 debugger does not run under windows v3.1
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:39:31 GMT
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young

Since I install windows v3.1 on my system, ZDBW does not
run under windows. Before, under win v3.0, the debugger was
prompting for parameters as I was clicking on the debugger's
icon. But now, nothing append. Does anybody ever had this
problem ???

Thanks 

Sylvain Therien                   stherien@sobeco.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.lang.c++
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 12:28:55 +0100
From: Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de (Norbert Unterberg)
Subject: Re: Resizing a list box within a resource
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
X-Comment-To: mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills)
Organization: Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de 


GM> In other words what message do I send to the listbox to resize it.
GM> Is it possible? Am I missing something? Are resources always fixed?

Resource controls are "normal" windows like every other control or window. 
Assume your dialog box has the window handle hwndDlg, and the listbox has an ID 
of ID_LISTBOX, then you can resize it i.e in the following way:

    hwndListbox = GetDlgItem(hwndDlg, ID_LISTBOX);
    SetWindowPos(hwndListbox, NULL, 0, 0, new_width, new_height,
                SWP_NOMOVE | SWP_NOACTIVATE | SWP_NOZORDER);

Norbert
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From: wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: REQ: Realtime Graphical GUI Interface Info
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:16:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: EDS Test Engineering Systems

Hi there,

My organization is currently looking for software packages to help
us build a GUI for our real-time product.  Specifically, we are 
looking for a package that will give us source code portability 
between X11 and Microsoft Windows.  This package needs to be able 
to handle dynamic graphics as well (i.e. control widgets, lights, 
knobs, switches, dynamically updating graphs, etc.).

We already know of the XVT Corp. product, but it does not have the
graphical capabilities we are looking for (it's great for portability
between Windows and X11).

If anyone has any information on this type of product, please respond
directly by email ASAP !  We are in a hurry to get this info !


			 Thanks netters !

			 Walt Stuart    wjs@re3sc139h.gmr.com
			 GM/EDS Research Labs
			 Warren, Mi
From: smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Stuart M Lichtenthal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: How BWCPP knows PTwindow == *Twindow?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:13:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw4IMt.JMx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have been through every #include file in a typical
Borland C++ example program which uses PTWindow or
PTWindowsObject and I still don't see how the compiler
knows that the P stands for "pointer".  This is certainly
Hungarian notation, but I don't see where the "P" is
defined.  I did see where TWindow and TWindowsObject classes
are defined, though (WINOBJS.H).

PTWindow is not in the "help" list. 

Could somebody clear this up for me?

Stuart Lichtenthal smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:59:28 +0100
From: Thomas_Hornschuh@softstream.fido.de (Thomas Hornschuh)
Subject: Re: Error while returning values from DLL.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
X-Comment-To: devanath@tiger.vill.edu (Kiran devanath)
Organization: SoftStream Development, Dortmund, Germany 

Kd> I this procedure as :
Kd>    OptionsA(int,int,double.......)
Kd> The procedure is executed with the values I send. But the returned value
Kd> which should be a double is  awfull. In a few words it is seperating me
Kd> from the answer by couple of zeros. Is there a problem because it is a
Kd> double ?

Is the DLL and the calling programm compiled with the same Compiler. I had a 
similar problem some time ago, when calling a procedure in a DLL that was 
compiled with Zortech C++ from a programm compiled with Borland C++. The return 
of float and double values is incompatible between Borland, Mircosoft and 
Zortech. If my memory is right, Borland uses the floating point registers (if 
no floating point hardware is present, Borland uses an emulator, so there are 
always floating point registers), Micorosoft uses a static memory location and 
Zortech uses CPU registers.

Using floating point return values is unportable between different compilers!