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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:47:50 EDT
From:         arusydi@SUVM.SYR.EDU
Subject:      Re: Response on ET :-0

> Message-Id:   <9210111904.AA25562@cs.mtu.edu>
> Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:04:35 EDT
> From: "(Erwin Brisbanuharto)" <ebrisban@CS.MTU.EDU>
>
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> permias meeting. He said that there is no such a big gap (as big as we
> both had imagined) between East Timorese and non East Timorese in ET.
> That's not an interesting story, is it??? The interesting part
> is that he knew the story from his aunt who IS a sister at one of
> the Churches in East Timor. That makes the whole story a lot different.
> I was really surprised to hear the story last night.

See, somebody told you the truth. No tendency but the truth!!!
Those who always make up the story are full of evil. Certainly.

> Certainly, we in SEASIA-L have been fed up with news written by
> western journalists. The news are mostly based on their misbeliefs
> about Indonesia, filled with dictatorship and brutalism; just like
> what they think about other third world countries.

Well, Erwin, not all western journalists are trouble makers. But those
who particularly work with 'green green grass of home' and anti-
Indonesia would likely send you untrustable msgs and create a bad
image of the country. After all this is just a two-bit propaganda :-((.

>> When good news come along in SEASIA-L, _you_know_who_ who posted
>> the news on SEASIA-L said:
>> This Antara story, written with
>> obvious venom and plainly propagandistic, is much more representative
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> of Indonesian views ....
>(please see SEASIA-L LOG9203, on Subject: Indonesia Hardens on Timor)

You know what. This tells you that there is an individual or more who
think(s) s/he or they know better than you and want to convince you.
What a jerk. Again ...its a two-bit story. Lagu kuno :-).

> Afterall, Mr Alan Nairn of New Yorker who was in Dili on Nov 12 and
> has been telling the incident had been critized before by Noam Chomsky
> for his "forgeting" to tell the real story and the people behind Gramajo's
> mass murderers. Now, did he forget something in Santa Cruz incident?
> Did he tell the truth, nothing but the truth?

Geee....I love it!!! Can I forget something too :-). It is hard to be
honest, though :-). Do you think this kinda story critizied by Noam
would be a valid data for a professor of history? Aha...tell me about it..

Djoko:
>> > But don't tell me how to do that.
>>
>>    I don't think Max and others were telling you what to do or how
>> [ correct me if I'm wrong ], they just want to make others aware of
     =======================

Certainly you wrong!!!  Busyet, ente bego ngkali ye. Bangun, Djok!!!

>> what's happening in Timor Timur [ East Timor ] and to put pressure
>                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> on Indonesian government to end its occupation.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Exactly what they tell us to do, eh???
> Just like Phil Collins and his Genesis say:
> "Do it what I say, don't do it what I do"

Tra...la....la.....la....la........  Asyooooiiiiiiii...........

> If they want us to do something, give us an example.
> We don't have too much money to solve it by trial-and-error,
> we do whatever developed countries succesfully did because
> we want to be developed, don't we??? ...;-)

Yes you right, Erwin.
Udelah Djok, loe kagak use ngebelain lube2 gokil tuh...
Kagak use macem2 loe ah... Ntar gue kepret loe ye :-D.

> Salam, Erwin

Wassalam,
David (Daud).
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