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From: jesse@cs.UAlberta.CA (Jesse Lee)
Subject: Re: How to make the top margin to be exactly 1 inch ?
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:21:35 GMT

jesse@cs.UAlberta.CA (Jesse Lee) writes:

>I am using the following settings in the preamble of my thesis:
>%
>\setlength{\marginparwidth}{0pt}
>\setlength{\oddsidemargin}{0pt}
>\setlength{\evensidemargin}{0pt}
>\setlength{\marginparsep}{0pt}
>\setlength{\topmargin}{0pt}
>\setlength{\textwidth}{6in}
>\setlength{\hoffset}{0.5in}% Shift 0.5in to the right
>\setlength{\topmargin}{0pt}
>\setlength{\headheight}{0pt}
>\setlength{\headsep}{0pt}
>\setlength{\textheight}{8.9in}% Just like Plain TeX
>%
>because I want the left margin to be 1.5in and the rest of the margins to be
>1in exact. However it turns out the top margin is not exactly 1 inch. Its
>height is about 1in + approximately 1 baselineskip. 

>My question is why I cannot get the top margin to be 1 inch exactly.
>How can I remove that extra space?

I forget to mention that I cannot get the page number to be at exact
position on each page. Does anyone know why?

Jesse Lee
jesse@cs.ualberta.ca

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Oversize Page
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:20:00 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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        I am trying to port a titlepage format to Latex (done by pasteup
before) in which I need to get text about 0.5in from the bottom of the
page.  However, I want to do it ONLY on the first page, and then have
a more normal 1,0in margin on the bottom of all following pages.  I
have successfully moved text above the top margin of the page by
using \vspace*{-0.5in}, for example - this moves the text 1/2in above
the nominal top margin.  I get what I want (on 11in paper) by simply
defining the textheight to be 10" instead of the usual 9" (if I have a
1in margin), but if I do this globally it makes all the pages 10in.

        Is there some way of effectively defeating the \textheight
for a single page?

                                                L. Cardman
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rnoor@metz.une.edu.au (rnoor)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Help Latex: caption (urgent)
Keywords: special caption
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:14:23 GMT


Dear Netters,

How do I get special caption like this:

  

                            Table 1.1

             World Meat and milk production 1980-1987.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Countries      1980  1981  1892  1983  1984  1985  1986  1987
--------------------------------------------------------------
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
--------------------------------------------------------------

Instead of like this:


     Table 1.1: World Meat and milk production 1980-1987.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Countries      1980  1981  1892  1983  1984  1985  1986  1987 
--------------------------------------------------------------
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
.........      ...   ...   ...   ...   ...   ...    ...   ... 
---------------------------------------------------------------

I use Latex to create the table and the command were:

\begin{table}[t]
\centering
\caption{World Meat and milk production 1980-1987}
\vspace{0.5cm}
\begin{tabular}{lcccccccc}
\hline
Countries & 1980& 1981& 1892& 1983& 1984& 1985& 1986& 1987\\
\hline
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
......... & ... & ... & ...&  ... & ... & ... &  ...&  ...\\
\hline
\end{tabular}
\end{table}

I want the caption is included in Table of content.

Please email me if you have idea how to solve my problem ,  Thank's in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: LN07/DECLASER 1100 anyone?
From: gordon@chmeds.ac.nz
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:40:43 +1200

Has anyone used a Digital LN07, sometimes known as a DECLaser 1100
as a TeX output device?

If so, what device driver did you use. And how much memory does it
need?

Thanks
Gordon


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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: andrew@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andy Biewer)
Subject: \def^^M^^M?
Originator: andrew@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: UW-Milwaukee - Language Resource Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:22:02 GMT

Hello NetPeople,

Is it possible to have TeX recognize two consecutive ^^M's in order to
leave a blank line?  Maybe I'm missing the point completely, but though I
issue \obeylines, it still gobbles blank lines because ^^M simply get's
defined to \par and two \par's are as good as one.

More generally, how is it possible to have TeX retain those blank lines,
e.g.:

	line one

	line two

where the line between "line one" and "line two" will come out being
equivalent to "\vskip\baselineskip"?

N.B.: I would still like to retain the function of \obeylines, i.e., one ^^M
functions as \par, but I would also like two ^^M's to skip by \baselineskip.

Again...thanks for any help,
Andy Biewer
Language Resource Center
UWM
From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Recipie Macros in TeX (not LaTeX)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:11:56 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cupid.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Sep10.035226.13561@reed.edu>, zeke@reed.edu (Zeke Koch) writes:

|> Does there exist a set of macros for formatting recipies.  I have a
|> bunch that I'd liek to typeset but I don't really know what they
|> should look like.  Has anyone out there done the work yet.

Knuth once published in Tugboat some macros for recipes. It was only
for one recipe, so if you're going to do a whole book it won't
be enough. Check issues of tugboat of at least four years ago.

|> Zeke

Victor.
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Subject: Re: A question for a TeXnician about \shipout
Summary: Use dvidvi
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:01:02 GMT

In article <laksboINNhoj@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu
 (Victor Eijkhout) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.184049.1@linus.claremont.edu>,
 dhosek@linus.claremont.edu writes:
>|> 'tis a rather interesteing problem.
>
>I agree that in contrast to some of the questions on this forum
>this problem is actually a legitimate one,
>but I don't see a solution to it. Inside TeX that is.
>
>Dvi merging programs exist that can post-process the dvi file to get
>two pages lined up on one sheet.

Gosh, Victor, as long as you were posting anyway to affirm the legitimacy
of the question and the existence of a solution, couldn't you have
gone ahead and actually *identified* one of these programs? ;-)

Tom Rokicki's "dvidvi" program can do this.  Just process your
document in the ordinary one-page-per-page way -- this will allow
you to get page references right without undue pain -- then use
dvidvi to gang up the pages for 2-up printing.  dvidvi reads a
dvi file and writes another dvi file with the pages of the original
reordered and/or ganged; it can be used for printing booklets for
saddle-stitching, greeting cards, two-sided documents, etc.  It's
certainly one of my favorite TeX-related utilities.  You can get it by
FTP from labrea.stanford.edu (in the /pub directory I believe; at any
rate it's in the same directory as the dvips sources).  You may need to
use the "landscape" option of your device driver if you're printing
two pages onto one on letter size paper in the obvious way.

--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
  (completely unwilling to venture a guess as to what distinguishes
  "legitimate" requests for assistance from "illegitimate" ones...)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: srodawa@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ron Srodawa)
Subject: Re: TeX under SCO Xenix (386)
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 07:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.162742.49615@ccvax.ucd.ie> pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
>In TeXhax91.046, Pierre MacKay (coordinator for TeX-in-UNIX) said he held
>out little hope that TeX would ever compile under SCO Xenix (due I think
>he said to memory segmentation limits).
>
>Has anyone ever got TeX running under Xenix on a 386? Is it worth it?
>
>///Peter

I successfully compiled Tex 3.1 in SCO Xenix 386 and have been actively using
it.  I will be posting it to the xenix archive on unix.oakland.edu soon.  Right
now I'm rebuilding my xenix system after damage wrought by a summer thunderstorm.  Ron.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Problem with Maths mode and Captions
From: andrew@matai.vuw.ac.nz (Andrew Greer)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:19:04 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington,  NZ

 
 Hi,
    I'm not very familiar with the maths mode under LaTeX. Does anyone know
    why the following problem occurs. We are using LaTex 2.98 and TeX 3.0.

    Thanks in advance.
    
    The included latex input produces an error that there is an extra }
    in the argument of caption. The problem is associated with having the
    sqrt function in there - it goes away if I remove the sqrt{}. 
    
    **************************************************************
    
    \documentstyle[12pt,ncs]{article}
    
    
    \begin{document}
    \[ \sqrt{xyz}\]
    
    \begin{figure}
    \vspace{5cm}
    \caption{Leaky bucket solutions, $\sqrt{xyz} $  }
    \end{figure}
    
    
    \end{document}
    \end
    

Andrew Greer, 
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From: hank@news.duc.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Algorithm env. like "figure"? List of Algorithms?
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:22:39 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Sep11.124638.6992@maths.tcd.ie>, jorice@maths.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice) writes:
> Does anyone know of an environment which would let me number and float
> algorithms in a similar way to the "figure" environment? It would be
> very desirable, also, if I could produce a "List of Algorithms" at the start of my document, similar to what happens with \listoffigures and \listoftables.
> I have checked out the obvious contenders: algorithm.sty and program.sty.
> algorithm.sty provides numbering but its format can't be changed (as far as
> I know) since it is defined with \newtheorem. program.sty doesn't do anything
> I need. Neither styles float nor produce a list of algorithms.

You didn't check the definitive source for macros: DM Jones' tex-index, 
available at niord.shsu.edu (in [.tex-faq] ?).  You will find:

Name: float.sty (.doc)
Description: This style option improves the interface for defining
    floating objects such as figures and tables in LaTeX.  It adds the
    notion of a loat style' that governs appearance of floats.  New
    kinds of floats may be defined using a \newfloat command analogous
    to \newtheorem.
Keywords: LaTeX, float
Author: Anselm Lingnau <lingnau@math.uni-frankfurt.de>
Supported: yes
Latest Version: v1.0c, 25 Feb 1992
Archives: stuttgart, shsu
Note: Documentation requires Mittelbach's doc.sty (q.v.).  Package
    includes a driver file for the documentation (float.tex), a driver
    file for the docstrip (q.v.) program, an example file (fltest.tex)
    and a README file.

The sample file uses 'algorithm' as an example. It has a '\listof'
command.  I have not tested.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: jon@radel.com (Jon Radel)
Subject: Re: moving DVI files from ASCII to EBCDIC 
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 23:52:10 GMT

In article <715264965snx@n5ial.chi.il.us> jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham) writes:
>
>now, for a question:  why did ibm assume that when someone is typing,
>that every single line of text that they type will always be PRECISELY
>the same length?  wouldn't it just be much simpler to end a line when
>a (CR, LF, CR/LF, etc.) was encountered?
>   --jim
>

Don Hosek has already answered some of your implicit questions, so I'll 
simply note that those 80 character fixed record files have nothing in
particular to do with typing...typing, what's that, oh you must mean
keypunching...but rather to do with an efficient internal representation
of, say, computer cards, or greenbar paper printouts.

You have to remember that many of the design decisions that current IBM
mainframe users have inherited were made long, long ago from the point of
computer technology.  While I was never a big fan of feeding my files
through a virtual card reader under VM/CMS, it was obvious how the need
for compatibility with existing software drove much of what is still used
today.

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dmitri@physics (Dmitri Linde)
Subject: A program to expand macros?
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:31:02 GMT

Hello, 

	Does anyone know of a way to convert simple macros such as
/def/fr#1#2{{#1/over#2}}
?

The probelm is that some journals such as Phys. Rev do not accept
custom macros, and thus make people expand every occurence of
/fr{}{} and other nice macros. Is there a way to do it automatically on
a UNIX machine?

	Thank you very much,
	Dmitri Linde

P.S. Please reply to dmitri@StarConn.com
From: "George D. Greenwade" <bed_gdg@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: RE: TeXShell V2.5 released
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 13:32:29 CDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

In <kai02486920805113008@depeche.toppoint.de> (comp.text.tex, 5 Sep 92
09:30:08 GMT), Kai Voigt <kai@depeche.toppoint.de> posted:
> INJS@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Juergen Schlegelmilch) writes:
>
> > Hello emTeX users,
> > I'm now able to release version 2.5 of TeXShell.
> > [..]
> > The new version can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from Stuttgart
> > (ftp.uni-stuttgart.de, dir /soft/tex/machines/pc/emtex-texshell)
> > or Clausthal (sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de, dir /pub/tex/emtex/texshell)
> > as file TS25.ZIP. It has to be unpacked using the -d option of
> > [..]
>
> Please let me know where I can get the new release via mailserver
> because I don't have ftp access here.

Include the command:
 SENDME EMTEX-TEXSHELL
in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@SHSU.BITNET (FILESERV@SHSU.edu)
and you will get a 16-part UUENCODEd set of distribution files. 
Concatenate them, UUDECODE them, and you will have the new TS25.ZIP file.

For anonymous ftp users on this side of the Atlantic, you can ftp to
Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8) and get the file TS25.ZIP in
[FILESERV.EMTEX.TEXSHELL].

Regards,   George
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dhosek@linus.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Experience with Scientific Word?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:32:19 PDT

In article <1992Sep4.144238.28324@ncsu.edu>, bloomfld@stat.ncsu.edu (Peter Bloomfield) writes:
 
> Can anyone offer any experiences with or opinions about 
> Scientific Word (from TCI)?  Specifically,
> 1.  For entry of mathematical material, how does SW compare 
> with WYSIWYG programs such as MS Word, or Exp, or T3?
> 2.  Does SW really encourage the author to concentrate on
> document structure and content, rather than appearance?
> 3.  More generally, does SW promote good document-preparation
> practices?

I've been exhibiting at TUG meetings exactly the same amount of
time as TCI and ended up next to them both times so I've had a
chance to see them in action (I've also recently gotten an
evaluation copy whose manual I've flipped through). 

Now to your questions:
1: Haven't used any of the listed packages and don't much care
for the point-and-grunt method of equation editing to begin with.
TCI is the maker of T^3 so I'd imagine that the user interface is
comparable or better, but I don't know for sure.

2: Yes. In fact, they seem to have done a good job of making it
difficult for the author to muck about with the appearance of the
document. The input screen is a nice what-you-see-is-what-you-mean 
interface.

3. I'm not sure what you mean by this one.

Overall it looks like a pretty good product. Still haven't
installed it yet to try it, so further commentary will have to
wait.

-dh

Don Hosek                  
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: schieber@jetson.uh.edu (Schieber, Jay D.)
Subject: Supplement to FAQ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: FAQ, WEB, GNUPlot, Emacs
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:02:00 GMT

At the risk of increasing the FAQ too much I would like to make the
following proposal.  In my opinion one of the strong points of TeX,
LaTeX, emTeX, etc is its compatibility with other pieces of software
which are also meant to be portable to many, many systems.  Currently
I use only a couple of these, and I would like to know what else is
out there.  For example, I really have no idea what WEB is, although
it is mentioned in the FAQ.  However, the FAQ just tells me how to
get it, or something like it, for different systems.  Why would I
want to?  What does it do?  Sometimes this is done; for example,
there is a nice, succinct description of why I probably do not
want to touch METAfont, but also why I might.  Could we add a little
section about what each of these things do, so that one can
determine what discussions are worth following?

Your $0.02 are, of course, welcome.
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Margarida Pereira-Leite)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Ps and Eps figures in latex
Summary: Looking for latex macros for including ps and eps figs in a document
Keywords: latex, ps, eps
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:58:14 GMT
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

Hi

  I am looking for some macros (with the instructions to use them) that
would allow me to include postscript and encapsulated postscript (more
this last one) in a latex document. If you know about some and where
I can get them, please let me know.

 
    Thanks in advance. 

    Margarida
From: alberto@cs.umd.edu (Jose Alberto Fernandez R)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: xfig and LaTeX
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:00:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.tex
Organization: University of Maryland Computer Sc.
In-reply-to: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no's message of 7 Sep 92 06:56:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.065602.29217@alf.uib.no> iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen) writes:

   From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen)
   Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.text.tex
   Date: 7 Sep 92 06:56:02 GMT

   Does anybody have a description of how to mix LaTeX formulas and xfig?
   I know how to extract the drawings from an xfig plot to an EPS-file and
   the text part to a tex-file, but how do I then plot the text in the correct
   positions from LaTeX? I usually use epsf.sty to handle PostScript from LaTeX
   and dvips to print.

   -psi (iversen@vsfys1.fi.uib.no)

Use the transfig package. In particular the translation to psfig:

	transfig -L psfig .....

This translator will generate the code necessary to load the text part
in the .tex file and the postscript part in the .ps part. Then after
running latex you just send it to a postscript printer in the ussual
way, it should work just fine.

If you are using the latest versions of xfig, you probably need to
specify that your strings are Special. Use the edit-object mode to do
this.

	Jose alberto.
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From: victor@cs.concordia.ca (KRAWCZUK victor)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: WANTED: documentation of SLITEX
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:01:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <1992Sep4.125823.21943@rhrk.uni-kl.de> kohler@alvserv-2.dfki.uni-kl.de (Markus Kohler) writes:
>
>
>Are there documentations of SLITEX in TEX/LATEX-format ??
>Is the Leslie Lamport's book the only source ?
>

The standard TeX distribution comes with 2 such files:

slides.tex and perhaps local.tex

 Search your file system for these two files.




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