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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:26:41 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Translation difficulties
              4 Nov 1992 14:17:40 CST from <tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU>

"vusook"?  The definition for this word would describe either a hit man
or a robot.

Evelyn
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:27:38 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deleting a letter
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free/fee

Joan (jboor@cs.umb.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:56:47 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:29:00 HST Michael E. Macmillan said:
>>Yeah, and I'm decidedly with you on this one.  With so much mail
>>coming from this list alone, I don't feel I have the time to
>>struggle to find the beginning of the response, so I move on
>
>  I agree with you.  Ruth's missives are particularly difficult to read.
>Come on, beloved Ruth....before Daniel Judges Ruth.....
>
Uhmmm - Daniel comes after Ruth.  It's a fun book to argue over, but Joshua
comes before Judges.... As any good Lyle Lovett fan should know.<grin>
I'm a-tryin' to remeber to put them blank lines in, boss massa, yes indeedie.


>>the added readability.  Now, are we about to cycle back to headless
>>chickens again?
>
>Sure.
>   Why'd the headless chicken cross the road?
>
It wanted to be roadkill?  To get to the other side?  Was it stapled to the
headless duck?  Or maybe it sensed a hungry Toal Kookie coming its way, and
didn't want to take chances....
<ducking> <w/sauce>
<throwing fried noodles - to go with the duck sauce>
>
 
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:15:17 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Biblical thought for the day...
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Feeling inspired, I've taken to reading the Bible for enjoyment.
But I'm having trouble interpreting it.  I know I should take it
literally, but for the life of me this sounds like a prohibition
on praying in Church...  Should Christians *really* go back into
the closet?

Mat 6:5
 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for
 they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
 streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their
 reward.

 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast
 shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which
 seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:32:38 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Danger
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: And what, pray tell, is wrong with having sex with a dog?
:                         o/.\____/
:          -- Bernard      \______|
:                          / \  / \

Nothing, if you're a bitch.  Or even if you're a dog, come
to think of it...

G :-)
From: harwood@TENET.EDU (Nancy Harwood)
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>
>         "In Flanders Fields the poppies grow,
>          among the crosses, row upon row..."

Okay, John M., what's the rest of it?  We learned it in 7th grade, when
this was still Armistice Day, and I can't for the life of me remember what
comes next.
ndh
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:25:56 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Adventures in Democracy
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              4 Nov 1992 13:07:37 -0700 from <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:07:37 -0700 JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS said:
>a hotbed of redneckitude I'd like to point out that offsetting the mayor's
>refusal to let Mesa PL buy Madonna's book three citizens then donated copies -
>they're locked in the mayor's office 8-) ; MLK Day [unshared, btw] passed;

      Well, in Idaho it (MLK) is shared....something like Idaho Martin Luther
King Human Rights Day.....

      And the BSU library has the Madonna book....I used it along with
a mess of hardcore porn videos and books and mags in a Media Law class
on Mon nite....and will in a Crim Justice class on Tues 17th.  We bought
a copy, and have had another one donated by the Idaho Statesman, our
local paper, after they used it in  an article on the day it came out.

dan
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: On the whole, I'd rather be in
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:45:24 GMT



	Paris or Seville.  What do you all think?


-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
155 Second Street                | into the ground. Now wasn't that 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy
From: fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU (Frank Peters)
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Date: 5 Nov 92 02:59:46 GMT
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In article <9211050233.AA07287@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK
 (Graham Toal) says:
:
: Taking of which, I also noticed this post; is this a typical attitude
: of Americans to people who live in trailer parks?  I thought it was
: very unpleasant and about as biased as you can get.

   [...]

: ]                               because they thought
: ] a little race-baiting would pick up some support
: ] from the white-trash/trailer park sector of the
: ] electorate.

Yup, this is fairly typical.  Trailer parks are frequently seen as sort
of shanty's for whites...full of beer swigging rednecks with a hound
dog asleep out front.
--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:29:17 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Choosing the appropriate insult...

>:I have heard "animus" used only as animosity. I guess the other meaning
>:is more neutral, something like just a tendency or spirit. But whatever
>:experience I have, I will consider that meaning more pretentious.
>
>:tushar
>
>Actually, I only knew of the Jungian meaning, but after checking the
>dictionary, I still say animus was inappropriate where animosity was
>clearly indicated.

I was only talking about what I had read. It's completely believable that
pretentious Indians will spew these snobbisms right and left.

Something unrelated: I will post some hilarious sentences I once gleaned
out of the Times of India, as I remember them.

tushar
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:57:00 EST
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UUCP request att!D.att2872093 to mhwpa!D.att2872093
failed on system 'mhwpa'.
Reason for failure:
	remote system can't create temp file
	remote file system is low on free space
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Whoa baby
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:17:38 GMT

TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU (BZ) writes:
>>I live near the beach, surrounded by surfer dudes and betties.
>                                                       ^^^^^^^
> Pray tell, what are betties?   I thought it meant more than one of me.

The good-looking girls who hang around surfers.  I'm not sure of
the derivation - perhaps Betty from the Archie comics.

--karsten

(not to be confused with "bennies")
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:11:04 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sick System
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>   Your system
> > was apparently sick over the weekend.
> >    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
> Indeed it was sick.  Last night ndh phoned me and said the 1-800 number

But I think that was Brad's system I was talking about.  System rot must
have been rampant over the weekend.  I wonder if it's contagious.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:07:40 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Peeking out from under the manhole cover
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AUSBROOK>  Is it safe to <come out> now?

Ye Gods!  *Another* one!

G
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Date: 7 Nov 92 00:55:53 GMT
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>Aborigine wagga-wagga: possibly, or perhaps New Guinea inhabitants are
>related?
>
>G

There have been some cultural exchanges across the Torres Strait, but I doubt
that this word would have made it via that route. The language of the Cape
York aborigines/Torres Strait islanders are completely different languages
to the one that was originally spoken in the Wagga Wagga area. The number of
original distinct aboriginal languages spoken in Australia was quite lar
- many of them are now extinct - and only a handful remain.....these aren't
merely dialects of the same language, but distinct languages with different
lexicons, syntactic structures, etc. However homophones do exist between these
languages, but having different meanings, so it is entirely possible that the
term 'wagga wagga' could occur independently in more than one language and
could even have been part of one of the Papua/New Guinea languages originally.

Carolyn
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:23:38 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wayward Pulpit
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Posted by Frank

>>Men and maybe women in Words-l must
>>have beards. It is sorta part of the look.
>>
>Eeeeehnt.  Thank you for playing.  I had one for ten years.  Then
>I shaved it off and now look younger than I did when I grew it.

And actually Frank, I still think of you as bearded; this post was actually
the first time that I had, uh, noticed. Interesting, because I've gone through
the same process twice, far too many years ago on the Left Coast with my
beard, and two years+ ago with a mustache I had had since, oh, the Ford years.
And it had the same effect--I went from looking my age to looking five-ten
years younger.
      Something about hitting 30, Frank?

                          the ever-scratchy b.c.
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From: R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Evelyn Duncan)
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Subject: Re: The Democrats and Me
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:17:54 GMT
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              12 Nov 1992 10:12:20 -0500 from <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>

I remember reading that if the President-elect dies before inauguration,
the Vice-President-elect is sworn in as VP and then is sworn in as the
President  (both of these on Jan. 20).

Evelyn
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:19:04 -0800
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Warning
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: Here's a warning that ought to be attached to every flu shot:

: WARNING: Do not take this shot when you have a sore throat and ear. If you
: ask the nurse if you should take this shot when you have a sore throat and

Over here, flu shots are reserved for the elderly or weak.  It takes a lot
of effort to produce quantities of a vaccine once the forthcoming flu
strain for the season has been identified, and our medical service really
resents wasting them on young fit people who wouldn't be all that affected
even if they did catch the flu.  They're taking resources which could
otherwise save peoples lives.  National Health doctors won't do it, and
a lot of private doctors still have enough scruples to try to talk
people out of it.

There's a good chance your country will start behaving responsibly too
from what I've read of Clinton's medical plans.  Cut out unnecessary
operations which are often more to prevent lawsuits than illnesses,
and target the needy more than the self-indulgent.

G
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:29:00 MST
From:         BZ <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Shinjuku Towers (was Keeping you guessing)"
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Marilyn (mgarber?) wrote:

>Greetings from Akio's office in Shinjuku, Tokyo.  He is one who

This reference to Shinjuku brings back pleasant memories for me.  Shinjuku
Towers was one of the main visibility checkpoints when I worked in Japan
as a weather observer.  About 11 miles from Yokota AB, I believe. (I no
think in kilometers)   I didn't know you worked in Shinjuku, Akio.  I have
passed thru there a few times on the train.   Long before you were there,
I am sure.

Senior Airman Betty Zaleski, reporting as ordered, sir.
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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              9 Nov 1992 02:44:06 -0500 from <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>

>The fact your first 'Ebonique' message got through means something is
>working somewhere -- when did you make your original posting?  I've
>apparently had no trouble posting (but did not try Sunday morning when
>Ken's troubles first surfaced) and I wonder if others have.

    About 3:00 Saturday afternoon is when I noticed the UUCP error
    messages.  Also when my messages to the list were not going through.

>But why would AT&T's troubles make it so that you can reply to a posting
>but cannot send mail directly to words-l?  To me it suggests a problem with
>the mailer at your site and is unrelated to AT&T's troubles.

    You are probably right.  Two different problems; from my perspective,
    they got conflated.  I ought to get a life.

    In the meantime, I will try to get some sleep.

    brad
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Subject: Re: Philly & Chicago
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:37:32 GMT
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Bayla, I've never seen the McCormick convention center, so I can't
identify with your desire to drop a bomb on it, but I think something
similar might be nice for Houston's George R. Brown Convention Center.  I
was horrified the first time I saw it...it looks like a riverboat!
ndh
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:22:46 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question 2
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>I've always had the little problem of swapping the words "wedding" and
>"funeral." Now, once when I made the mistake of referring to some old guy's
>funeral as his wedding, it caused his widow to get all dewey-eyed and
>sentimental on me. But when I accidentally referred to my sister's wedding as
>her funeral, she got all upset, claiming that I was making fun of her. But it's
>not on purpose, honest. I try real hard to think about what I say before it
>comes out my mouth because I know I have this propensity. But it still happens
>every time. My question is: Think it means anything?
Yes. It means a lot. I do it all the time.

The first time I did it was the evening, a day or two after we
got engaged, when Allan and I went to some friends' for dinner.
We were sitting around, and the other couple was teasing me.
I cried, "Stop that, or I'm not going to invite you to my funeral!"

But I got married anyway...

Oh, and I think I referred to Allan's funeral as his "graduation"
at least once.
>-abh
judith
From: jrlst14+@PITT.EDU (James R Llewellyn)
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Subject: RE: "ILLITERATE GENERATION"
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:07:49 GMT
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Pardon me. I would not even attempt to hazard a guess as to why a
WORDS-Ler would use a term such as "illiterate generation." Being, most
likely, the youngest on the list, I must take solace in believing that
the quotation marks indicated a direct quotation from an ill-informed
speaker. Surely, one person realizes that the new generation is not less
intelligent, but merely unprepared for a quickly changing world. Since
the world media has intensified competition between countries, there is
a greater pressure on individuals like myself to somehow to find
employment and happiness in a world where "picking up a trade" is no
longer an option.

Peace, Love, and Will Work for Food,
Jim
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:24:00 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Taboo Words (was Re: Gleanings (66)
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              2 Nov 1992 22:07:43 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:07:43 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>
>Which sentence?  "Fuck you"?  Here's one:  Handsome and charming lover
>looks restless.  I say, "What would you like to do?"  He says, "Fuck you."
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

So, Bernard, you gonna  tell us the name of this studmuffin?

Come on, Bernardykins, who's that dood  that's sharing your bed....???

dan
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:14:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Fun for all

> Don't let your ideology get in the way of common sense.

I won't if you won't.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:32:08 -0800
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: 486dx time
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	I notice in today's WSJ that "closely held Digicom Systems Inc.,
	Milpitas, Calif., said Prodigy plans to sell a new 14,400 bps modem
	that Digicom has developed....  FOR $199.... The new modem, which is
	based on a chip set developed by Analog Devices Inc., Norwood, Mass.,
	includes fax capabilities and data compression.... The cheapest
	9,600 bps modems currently cost about $230 and 14,400 bps modems are
	$295 and up."

Always first with the news, I bought one of these 2 weeks ago and am
using it this very second.  Which model is 199? I bought a Digicom
Scout+ from wolfgang@rahul.net for $280 which included fast (1 week)
shipment to Britain and tax and import duty and software.  They use
their own DSP chip unlike most of the new cheapos which are Rockwell
(also usually pretty good) and seem pretty good at retraining up and
down to adjust to line conditions.

Wolfgang's prices are fairly low because Digicom don't advertise and
sell by word of mouth.  My only slight criticism is that it uses
the traditional 9600bd fax unlike my Twincom which has a 14.4K fax.

I'll bet Prodigy's $200 offer is tied to some other product, such
as a year's subscription, and they'll make up the difference that
way.  Either that or they're buying *loads*.

However, yes, modem prices are coming rapidly down, and if you're
in no hurry it's worth waiting.  23Kbd modems are next in line and
they'll come in at the $400-$500 premium end for a year or two at
which point price wars will cut in like the current ones for 14.Kbd...

G
From: DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078)
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*** Resending note of 11/09/92 09:35

>>Force?  Do you recognize it?  Don M. probably will.....

I would only recognize SAC - Stratigic Air Command, which no longer
exits under that name (LeMay (sp?) would never had let that happen!)

Don, retired (from Air Force) 1971.
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thanks to Rita -abh pltkn and America
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              in the rain" at Nov 4, 92 10:49 am

PAH, I say.  As a Philly resident, I'm honored, struck speechless almost,
that the mighty Harwell deigned to mention the city and comment on the
view from the train tracks in her very entertaining travelogue.  Next time
you're in the neighborhood, Anne, you should venture off the train.  Far
better view that way.  ;-)
And I am pleased that you saw some of Newark - a truly horrifying sight, one
that should be witnessed by a large number of people, so they are not lulled
into believing that the entire country is like their backyard.

rashmi
From: LEAH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (leah)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 14:59:02 GMT
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In Flanders' fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place. And in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow.
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders' fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe.
To you, from failing hands we throw
The torch. Be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies blow
In Flanders' fields.
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From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help on a word?
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Thanks all for the help on finding the word. We thought it might be
mission , but did not believe ourselves.

Thanks

alec