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From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: A4000 QC problems?
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:24:08 GMT

dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:

> No, I don't know which way [blowing out/sucking in] is 'correct'
> for the A4K fan.  Perhaps CBM might like to put paid to the
> various rumours flying in the net.

 
In almost any application I have seen with the use of a fan, it's usually 
been a "blower", especially if it has ventilation slots of any kind that 
pull air through the chassis.
 
Since I don't have a A4k (::snif, sob::), does the fan have on it a 
filter of any type?  If it's on the exterior (where you cna get access to 
it), then it *should* be a "blower" (and the filter would catch the crud 
that's been flying around in the case, but that's another story...)
 
The fan on my HD8 on my A500 is a blower...pulls air from the rear vent 
slots through, and out of the chassis...


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From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: World of Commodore Notes
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:12:52 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
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In article <1992Dec11.211453.21073@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.201105.19931@wuecl.wustl.edu> cmd1@wuecl.wustl.edu
> (Chris Dunphy) writes:
> 
> >  I am surpirsed no one has mentioned how nice the A 4000's mouse is...
> >It is by far the smoothest working mouse I have used in a long time
> >on any machine.
> 
> Yes, it really is nice, especially if you like the MS mouse configuration.
> From what I've seen, this is the same mouse bundled with the A1200.
> 
> Of course, the "pregnant" mouse zealots will no doubt remain loyal :).

Well, if anybody's game. I've got of these new a4000 mice. unused as I run
my a4000 with a Naksha mouse. I'm quite willing to trade it for one of these
A3000T 'pregnant' mice. In 100% working condition of course. :-)

Any takers? ;-)

CYa, Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Power supply for hard drive.
Organization: University of Keentookey
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:59:08 GMT

(In case you read my last post, this has been a *long* night.. :(
 
 
I have nuked about 4 power supplies in the past year in my hard drive
box..  I have a Quantum 105LPS, Xetec ram/controller.  I keep frying
the +12 side of the PS.  Is there a reason why this might be happening?
 
The last PS I fried, the +12 went to +15 and stayed there, +5 was normal.
This time, the +12 starts at +12.77 and goes up to past +14.. (Haven't
waited to see how far it goes..  As I leave it on, it increases..)
 
Anyone have an idea why this might keep happening?
 
 
(And why computer hardware hates me?  Guess what..  I'm going to study
 electronics..  Isn't that sorta like an alcoholic getting a job as
 a bartender?  Maybe I should become a garbagemane..)
 
 
 
Thanks for your help...  I need it.. :(
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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Floptical, Tape, Syquest, WORM, comments needed.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:13:13 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

No, I can't.  The Insite ROM does not handle a non-standard
track/sector size.  I have asked Insite to update the ROM and
hopefully, they will fix it so it can read the 880K format.  I
never use the drive for anything under 20 Mbs anyway.  Well, i
did once when I needed to read some IBM files.  Why worry about
the other size anyway, you have a regular floppy on your system,
the 20 Mb format is just a little better!
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: The "cool" fan debate 
Date: 19 Dec 92 15:11:22 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Dec19.101213.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu>, dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
>>>Various coments/concerns regarding the sucky/blowy 4000 fan deleted...
>>>
>>>I'm pretty sure the fan would work best if it was blowing out of the 4000.
>>>either way may be ok.  
>>>What I find interesting is the lack of a CBM response to the question.
>>>
>>>This leaves me to assume (uh-oh) that commodore forgot to write it into
>>>the spec for the power supply. (We have done that here before) So there is 
>>>no correct answer they can give.  
>>>Maybe they assumed the power supply vendor knew that commodore sucks? 
>>>  (heh heh, I couldn't resist)
>>>I haven't had a lick of trouble with my replacement 4000 (yea!) and it has
>>>been on about 60 hours total now.
>>>

	I noticed something interesting while looking inside an Amiga
	A4000:  The floppy drive ribbon cable hangs right in front of the 
	fan opening on the power supply.  If the cable were hanging just
	right and the fan was blowing out, the fan could pull the cable
	upto the opening and make the computer overheat.  All things 
	being equal maybe you want the fan pulling in.

	Maybe the reason Commodore won't comment is because it doesn't
	matter.  Either that or they will need to recall the earliest
	A4000s and their lawyers told them to keep quiet.

	Just throwing more gasoline on the fire :-)	

> 
> It is best to create a positive pressure enclosure. Thus, have the fan
> pulling air in, no blowing it out. That way you can put a filter on
> the fan which will keep the inside of the computer cleaner. Having the
> fan blowing air out makes it pull in air from mainly the floppy
> drive(s). This can cause dust build-up on the heads and mechanisms.
> 
> 
> -- 
> DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
> Derek Seaman
Fred Heitkamp,  ** Not an organization.  My opinions only **
From: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: AGA artifacts, shimmer
Distribution: world
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:54:28 EST
Organization: Dejital Software

I just got back from the World of Commodore in Toronto, and I was
disappointed at the AGA machines (A4000, A1200).  Although the capabilities
of AGA sound good, the actual video quality was somewhat lacking.

On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,
the whole screen shimmered - it was like someone was continuously
tweaking the vertical size control!

I asked a Commodore representative about these problems and he said
it was due to the interaction between the computer and monitor and that
the monitor was to blame.  I have seen this effect on three different
brands of monitors (including the 1960) and the monitors in question
work fine with ECS machines, so this explanation doesn't hold water.

Have any AGA users out there noticed the same thing?  Commodore, what
will you do about it?

--
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       email: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca    Fido: 1:163/109.8
 AMIGA: Advanced Multimedia with Interactive Graphics and Audio

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: AGA USELESS - Thanks To Flicker In Higher Modes!!!
Organization: City University, London
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:30:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.003904.9649@ac.dal.ca> henigma@ac.dal.ca writes:

Marc, Marc, this won't fool us, we know its you.
Good try though, pretending to post as someone else.
;-)

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From: henigma@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: AGA USELESS - Thanks To Flicker In Higher Modes!!!
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:39:04 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada






        Excuse me, but the heck is the point with all the "Awesome" new AGA
modes if the nice ones like 800x600 or 1280x500 flicker hardcore when used 
with the 1960 or 1950 monitors?????
        I mean, when I look at a PC screen in super VGA, regardless of the 
resolution, every screen is deinterlaced and ROCK STEADY!!!!
        The Amiga lacks this.. Sadly Commodore, after 7 years cannot get it
right, so I wonder where the heck all the money in R&D goes to???? Maybe, just
maybe Commodore employees spend the money on extra long lunch breaks or
vacations to the Carribbean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Meanwhile, Mac and IBM (Video Card) engineers have got it just right!!  
        Commodore could learn a few lessons from Mac's SYSTEM 7.0, like memory 
protection and allocation, forget that both computers have virtual memory as
a part of there operating systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      If these things cost more than so be it, put a decent machine out not 
some half-ass rush job or poorly planned computer.
     Computers are two things: the SYSTEM software and the HARDWARE, you cannot
sacrifice one for the other!!
     Commodore's latest CASE designs seem ugly, for a lesson look at MAC case
designs !!!!
     Sleek is what Amigas are not, big blocks of beige is what they are!!!!

  Anyway, I'm just sick of making excuses for Commodore to MAC & IBM freaks.

  I will always use an Amiga, beacuse thanks to third party manufacturers, 
innovative designs are always in the Amiga marketplace, making up for the 
somewhat lack of vision from Commodore!

   I could also blast them for Marketing, but that would take a further
600 lines to write, so I won't bother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                 See Ya
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A500 keyboard LED flash problem
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec14.201921.1@ualr.edu> rdbrown@ualr.edu (Robert D. Brown) writes:
> I have an A500 that, on powerup or warm reset, the caps lock LED
> stays on a bit too long at first, the starts a slow single-flash
> series. The machine will boot from a floppy correctly but the
> keyboard is totally unresponsive.
> 
> Any ideas what might be causing this?

Dead keyboard...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Adding Memory to an A600
From: jheuring@mars.cse.utoledo.edu (Jerry Heuring)
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:18:02
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: Department of Computer Science and Engineering - University ofToledo

I have recently purchased an A600 and am wondering what it takes to
upgrade the system to 2 MBytes of RAM?  Is it just a matter of adding
chips or SIPP's?  

Thanks,
   Jerry Heuring
   jheuring@mars.cse.utoledo.edu
From: ahansfor@bigwpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel vs Motorola
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:47:57
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: andy@onkyo.incubus.sub.org's message of 9 Dec 92 01:29:37 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Dec 92 01:29:37 GMT, andy@onkyo.incubus.sub.org (Andreas Goehler) said:


andy> --

andy> Who knows ANYTHING about Intel's new 586 alias P5 alias Pentium
andy> ???

It's fast and its caused a lot of companies to abandon the MIPS
processor.

andy> Will it be 64-bit Data and Address Bus.

andy> Will it be 8-bit
andy> internal as all other x86 ??? 

WHAT?  A the 8088/86/286 are 16bit internal. the 386/486 are 32 bit internal.


andy> Does it include a 386 unit as
andy> planed earlier ??? Is it any competition to the new MC68060 as
andy> soon as both of these processors are out.  

No.  People using Motorola 68K line will go up to the 060 and intel
users will move to the Pentium.

andy> OKay, I hope to get some answers this time.

Try the intel newsgroup.

- Andrew Hansford
From: cikp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: The Shimmer is *NOT* AGA
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:17:41 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

>>>>On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
>>>>be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,
>>>>
>>>>Have any AGA users out there noticed the same thing?  Commodore, what
>>>>will you do about it?
>>>>
>>>> David Jones, 6730 Tooney Drive, Orleans, Ontario K1C 6R4 CANADA
>  
> Several people in the Amiga Roundtable on GEnie have reported the same
> thing.
> 
>                                Scott Corley

It is *not* an artifact of AGA. I bought my A4000 5 weeks ago (or so) and
due to my monitor not being able to sync down to 15khz I plugged in my
CBM flicker fixer (no 16million colours but a display in every mode except
800x600). With the flicker fixer in place I have an absoultely rock steady
clean picture. I then plugged in the dongle that connects your monitor to the
video port and what did I see, extremely noticeable vertical lines about 8
pixels apart. Pretty damn annoying, so I went back to my flicker fixer. Later
on I was wanting to use a B2000 and used the A4000 supplied dongle to connect
to the back of the Amiga 2000 and guess what? Vertical lines every 8 pixels or
so. Cponclusion, it is most definetly not AGA and it seems as though the
supplied dongle is at fault. There is a chip inside it, is that at fault I ask
myself?

Has anyone tried to connect their monitor with out the converter dongle? If so
are the lines still present. If so I'll get my self a new lead. Oh, I have had
the computer and dongle replace 2 weeks ago due to a fault with the drive and
mouse ports and the new computer exhibts the same vertical lines......

Simon
From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: I must find a way to read HD IBM disks!
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:01:49 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>The 20MB floptical isn't a bad alternative.  If you're going to buy a C= priced
>replacement drive, you might get the 20MB for little more than twice the price
>from a discount house.  Of course, you'll need a SCSI drive, and not all the
>flopticals have firmware that understands the Amiga format.  Any drive that can
>do a raw disk read can support the Amiga format, since it's basically a full
>track version of the IBM format as far as the low-level code is concerned.  
>However, such a low-level approach would require a new device driver that 
>works via SCSI direct.  If the drive knows Amiga, it can work via normal SCSI
>device.

	No known (to me) floptical can handle Amiga format - they all use MFM
controllers for reading non-floptical disks, no way to read the raw bits.  It's
possible this has changed since last I looked, but I doubt it.

	You can use the drives, you just can't stick amiga floppies into them
and read them (unless written by CrossDos).

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To be or not to be = 0xff
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: VXL-32 RAM board woes (long)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:11:10 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Well, since you have a single bit error, the process you went through
is correct.  The other thing I would try is reseating all the other
chips.  There was another problem that required me to return my VXL-30
for updating.  I did not have the symptoms you did(random lockups but
the memory test and my commercial diagnostic STU ran ok).  I would
reseat everything and try again, something may not be quite right.
The other thing is try it in 68000 mode.  Does it work that way?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cmd1@wuecl.wustl.edu (Chris Dunphy)
Subject: Re: World of Commodore Notes
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:11:05 GMT

  I am surpirsed no one has mentioned how nice the A 4000's mouse is...
It is by far the smootest working mouse I have used in a long time
on any machine.  To prove this is loaded up Shuffelpuck cafe,
(had to turn off cache to get it to work, but then it worked great)...
  I beat the hardest opponents right off with only a bit of a warm up.
By far my best playing ever, due to the quick responsiveness of the
mouse...
  I am also very glad to see that one of my all time favorite games
works perfectly.  I have not tried anything else yet though...

(**************************************************************)
(*    Chris Dunphy         |     Amiga 4000 & Amiga 1000      *)        
(* cmd1@wuecl.wustl.edu    | I've got the first, and I've got *)
(*         or              | the best.  Now all I need is a   *)
(* cmd1@cec2.wustl.edu     | toaster to call my own....  :)   *)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: Floptical, Tape, Syquest, WORM, comments needed.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:40:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

> drive internally if possible.  The Syquest is my first choice because of 
> its speed and storage (20ms at 44M or 88M - correct me if I'm wrong).

> A tape drive is also an alternative.  It is slower than the rest, but I guess
> it has more space for the buck.  Is there a program that will allow me to

I eventually ended up with both a syquest (for data storage) and a tape
(for backup and data storage).  Perhaps counterintuively, if I had to choose
one or the other I'd pick the tape over the Syquest.  (The ideal solution is
obviously both).

The Syquest 44 Mb is about as fast as a slow hard disk - roughly 600 Kb/sec.
The 88 Mb Syquest is supposedly almost twice as fast, altough I've never
seen one personally.  Some tape drives are almost as fast as the
slower syquest, but are not random access devices like a disk drive is.

The Syquest is nice for extra HD space, especially if you have 2 or more
carts for it, but there is the question of how you back them up.  Unless
you have 2 Syquest drives, you can't easily back up one syquest cart onto
another.  Backup up your HD with a tape drive is so vastly easier than
using floppies that you'll wonder how you got along without one for so long.
Also, you can easily use the tape for off-line storage - I use tar and
BTN-tape to store large amounts of data off-line, and I can get it back
within 10 to 30 seconds depending on how much stuff there is.  A cheap
tape drive and the Syquest should be approximately in the same price range.
Dunno how much a floptical is - with those you get a cheaper price/Mb than
with Syquest, but much slower speeds.  The tape will be the cheapest price
per Mb of any of the solutions but at the expense of random access.

There is no best solution - it just depends on how you prioritize speed,
storage capacity, price for the drive, and price/Mb for media.

   - steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: How programmable is ECS?
Date: 10 Dec 92 01:24:00 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1g3po7INNsvm@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> epa@phys.ksu.edu (Eric P. Armstrong) writes:
>In <37695@cbmvax.commodore.com> spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson) writes:
>
>>There is such a monitor in the 2.1 and 3.0 releases, called Euro36. This is a
>>15kHz 320/640/1280 x 200 monitor at 72Hz, to give NTSC-like resolutions at a
>>less-flickering scan rate. The name may be confusing (why is it called Euro36 if
>>the refresh is 72Hz?), but this is in line with NTSC or PAL. NTSC is 60Hz when
>>non-interlaced at 200 lines, but when interlaced, each field is only 30Hz
>>(similarly for PAL at 50Hz and 256 lines). So, Euro36 is 36Hz per field, or 72Hz
>>per frame.
>
>Is there an easy :-) way to roll your own monitor file?
>In 2.04?  2.1?

No, there is no tool to do so, simply because with such a tool, it would be real
easy for someone who doesn't know what they are doing to damage their monitor.


>--
>Eric P. Armstrong 				epa@phys.ksu.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: davec@comspec.com (Dave Carlton)
Subject: A1200 HD & memory questions
Organization: Comspec Communications, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:49:34 GMT

--
Now that the A1200 is becoming available, I'm interested in finding out what
people recommend in regards to A1200 expansion devices...

HardDrives
----------

So far, i've come across only two candidates for semi-inexpensive 2.5" media.

Quantum 80Meg Go-Drive ~$270 U.S.
Maxtor  85Meg M2585A   ~$235 U.S.

Any recommendations for even cheaper? 8^) Budget-minded as always...

PCMCIA Ram cards
----------------

I looked high and low, but could only find one company selling them. It was a
1 Meg card, and was a whopping $250 U.S.! Eeeep. I know Microbotics and others
are hard at work making ram expanders for the CPU expansion port, but I'd like
to save that for an accelerator and not waste any money needlessly.

Any help would be appreciated! Just press the 'r' key and if I get enough
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu
Subject: Mits 1381A and the Amiga 500 - need a cable
Summary: Where can I get a cable to use the 1381A with the Amiga 500?
Keywords: cable Mitsubishi 1381A Amiga 500 monitor
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:23:46 GMT

I remember hearing of a company that can provide any cable for any
purpose, but I can't remember the name.

I just bought a Mitsubishi 1381A multi-scan monitor for my
Amiga 500.  Where can I order a cable for this hardware?

Thanks,

Scott Weddel   strider   Apple /// aficionado   eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu
    Sterling Rider       MegaChip A500C= DCTV   UNLincoln Nebraska USA