HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:56:07 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>>I'm not up on exactly how TBBS works, but if it takes complete
>>control of the machine and either boots directly or replaces DOS,
>>then maybe it is a complete OS in itself. On the other hand, if it's
>>something like Windows or Desqview that rides on top of DOS which
>>you can stop and be back in DOS, then I would say it's an
>>application. I don't know for sure, could somebody fill us in? 

>It's not it's own OS.  It uses DOS, etc.  It does do management of it
>so that all the different requests coming from the different "lines"
>are handled correctly, for instance multiple users leaving messages to
>the message file.  It also grabs memory from DOS and EMS and then
>handles it itself.

I see. Still, since DOS is single-tasking, as far as users are
concerned DOS + TBBS become one: different people can't shell out to
different programs at the same time. 

>>In any case, functionally I believe it acts like an single-tasking
>>OS running a single application. I don't think it makes a lot of
>>sense to compare it with a multi-tasking OS + one of any number of
>>applications, one of which can be TBBS if the multi-tasker has DOS
>>emulation and TBBS is well behaved enough(?)

>OS/2 - run TBBS in a DOS window.  You'd probably be better off running
>Maximus, but if you don't want to change...

Sorry, but I have no interest in running TBBS, Maximus, etc. Aegis
runs Waffle on UNIX. 

Instead, I was responding to somebody who was saying that we should
only consider the BBS per se when we compare how "easy" things are
for users. But I don't think this is so. 

IMHO many aspects of BBS user interfaces come from the fact that
they run on a single-tasking OS. This is because it's pretty much a
case of one-size fits all; with some alternations allowed. 

Once you have a multi-tasking OS, each user can run whatever kind of
processes/applications they require. Each person's needs can be met
with a minimum number of commands, thus there is no need for menus,
hot-keys, and the like ... which are ways to present the total set
of all things the system can do. 

I came to this conclusion after years of watching people use Aegis:
90% of the time any one person only want to do a couple of things.
But these things are very different across people: there isn't any
typical user. 

Thus I have found that with a multi-tasking OS you can allow
individual users greater leeway in what they can do, thus making
their lives easier.

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Dan Lieberman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: QWK for UNIX system
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:16:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

In <714495880.236@zooid.guild.org> vid@zooid.guild.org (David Mason) writes:

>Hello All,

>A while ago someone posted that they were beta testing a .Qwk compatible
>system for importing/exporting qwk compatible mail for a Unix news system. If
>that person could write to me I would appreciate it. 

I have no idea about that, but one of the people who knows much about .QWK
and UNIX, could tell ya...  Mail jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu,
Tell him Dan L. sent ya....

Dan Lieberman 
cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:08:22 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:

>	The why are you even making a big deal of this?? Sounds
>to me that you just require the attention and are willing to
>get it however you can...even by putting down something that you
>say 'doesn't matter enough'!!

Cuz it's become so much fun to gig you and those like you.  Just 
like a big old foundering hog full of gas, I poke you and you fart
some more.  Wheeeee!!!

John

-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) |
Marietta, Ga                         |Interested in high tech and computers? 
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:24:53 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>Oh, this is utter nonsense. First, I've never seen Phil state anywhere that
>his list is "comprehensive". Furthermore, he doesn't have to disclaim
>squat. His list, his editing criteria, his bias. Clearly understood by
>everyone (except you, apparently) who picks it up and reads it.

Yeah?  Then why do I get a fairly steady stream of people asking me why
dixie.com is not on the list?  

>Since the list is tailored for people looking for a BBS, I see no reason to
>include non-BBS's in it. I see Phil placeing Gwinnette.COM in the list
>as about as helpful as listing Compuserve's phone number in it. Alot of
>good Gwinnette's phone number does for someone with a modem looking for
>a place to read news and mail.

I must have missed where phil's list states that it is only for people
looking for a BBS.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  At least in this area,
people who ask for "public access" are looking for a site to get news
and mail.  BBSing is an optional extra.  

>MD
>Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
>Subject: Re: Setting some of Bush/Quayle's lies straight...
>References: <1992Aug25.160219.6206@rock.concert.net>

>black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black) writes:

>>The Truth: Clinton's plan would raise taxes ONLY on people making more than
>>$200,000 per year. Apparently President Bush doesn't know anyone who has a
>>job that pays less than $200,000.

Looks like you have as much trouble with the physical act of posting as
you do formulating a rational argument.

John
-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC               |Interested in high performance mobility?  
Performance Engineering Magazine (TM) |
Marietta, Ga                         |Interested in high tech and computers? 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: meetch@DIALix.oz.au (Mitchell Brandsma)
Subject: Re: Splunge?
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:54:18 GMT

>>>Um... I'm getting pissed off with some of these requests.
>>>Will I do a python FAQ? These peeps r disturbing me.
>>>Well, I'm just glad I'm ot etting pissed on by these requesters.
>>>
>>>MNSio

>>Chris aka It looks as if someone pissed on your keyboard.  Couple of the keys
>>ain't working....
>>NI to you, too!

>Yes, it's.. um... MY FAULT! Yeah... let's blame it on me!

>OISn...m?

Nooooooonononono!  Blame it on me!  Give me a good spanking!  Go on!  I
want^H^H^H^Hdeserve it!  Oh, come on!  Come on!  I've got your knickers!

Meetch aka In desperate need of a royal spanking.
From: daggs@l42bb.jsc.nasa.gov (Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: CONFUSE-A-CAT/VISITORS
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:19:18 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Not Listening to People

In article <1SEP199205264871@venus.tamu.edu> mfc1493@venus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
writes:
>>"If it's all the same to you, I'd like to remove my trousers and display my
>>Y-fronts"
>         --Are You Being Served?
>
>"Well I never!"
>         --Sanford and Son
>
 "I'm sure you have at least once in your life."
		  --Groucho Marx
From: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Who are they???
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:44:34 GMT
Reply-To: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (Mr. Magic) writes:
> angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.) writes:
> |> Hi.  I'm asking this for my darling (not) brother who doesn't have
> |> an email account but is nonetheless a rabid :) MP fan:
> |> Who is Ann Haydon-Jones and (more importantly) who is her husband Pip?
> |> 
> |> Also, (I'm asking this one for me)... Does anyone know much about the
> |> history of those six insane men; specifically, what prompted them to
> |> become the brilliant comedians that they became?
> 
> You've obviously never been to a university lecture at cambridge...
> 
> |> Angela Bruce I. with three buttocks and a brain that's larger than a penguin's.
> I Michael am . How big is a penguin's buttock by the way?

Half the size of its bum.
(taa-daaaaa! <cymbal>)

PKT aka Mr. Answer Man
___________________________________________________________________________
Peter K. Taylor			||	Grab your egg-and-fours and	
right hemisphere, 		||	let's get the bacon delivered!
leftoverture,			||			mpfc
Markham, ON, Canada		||-----------------------------------------
				||           (so much for Pathos!)
From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (Mr. Magic)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: New Band Line-Up
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:05:09 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.

In article <26AUG199223223789@zeus.tamu.edu>, mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy) writes:
|> Arroit! Another update!
|> 
|> Guitars and Doritos           --   Ratboy the Not-Appearing-In-This-Post (What?
|>                                    an actual MPFC reference?!?)
|> 
|> Bass guitar                   --   A couple of Simons (why not 2 bassists? Never
|>                                    been done)
|> 
|> Tamborine/backing vocals      --   Lisa, Tia, and lisa each wearing 1/3 of a 
|>                                    piece of cloth.
|> 
|> Head-as-a-bongo               --   Meetch, whom we also use for any needed
|>                                    falsetto, after a knee to the groin, and 
|>                                    spitoon.
|> 
|> Bongos                        --   Sorry. Meeth's dad nicked.
|> 
|> Drums                         --   Chris and his travelling monkey/gorilla 
|>                                    looking thing.
|> 
|> Lyricist                      --   Jester, with some help from Smnio (or 
|>                                    whatever), looks like Bastard Dog Ate My
|>                                    Buspass may be our first single!
|> 
|> Harmonica/kazoo               --   Dan. Gotta give him *something*...you play
|>                                    any sort of body parts, Danny-boy?
|> 
|> Nude organist                 --   Preferrably either Lisa, lisa, or Tia, but
|>                                    I think Meetch might do too *wink*
|> 
|> Brass (trumpet and trombone)  --   We don't need no horns. Look! I got two right
|>                                    here under my hat.
|> 
|> Sax (yes S-A-X)               --   Nop. No horns! But S-E-X...now *that's* 
|>                                    another story.
|> 
|> Mouse organ                   --   Mousart. Cant's leave him out after we 
|>                                    talked about him so much. SQUEEK!
|> 
|> Groupie                       --   Michael (yes, I've forgiven you for taking
|>                                    my name...stupid git.) But you have to wear
|>                                    one of those bandanas we had for Lisa...

Ummmm I absolutely love bananas, but I really have to wear it after Lisa has finished
working out with it? wont it be a bit squishy?


|> 
|> Drugs/overdose--   Dan the spanish guitar dancer  
|> 
|> Answering machine             --   Robin the Newbie
|> 
|> Standing around               --   PKT
|> 
|> >> |> Ratboy is Happy With the Grou so far...but there's something missing...
|> >> Michael aka How do roadies count?  1,2   1,2    1,2    1,2    1,2    1,2    1,2   
|> >David aka roadies count 1,1,1,1,1     2,2,2,2,2,2,2      
|> Ratboy forgot some people...hmmm...anyone else?
Michael aka hmmmm A sharp I think
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: THE COMFY CHAIR????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:11:00 GMT

>>I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...
> 
>>Alison aka Bruce (To advoid confusion...  ;-))
>NOBODY expects to avoid confusion!

Our chief weapon is sensibility...sensibility and reasoning...out two weapons...
sensibility and reasoining...and logic...our three weapons are sensibility,
reasoning and logic...and nice red unifroms--I'll come in again.

>Jeams aka Otherwise they wouldn't be reading this group, matey!
Ratboy aka I don't know why *I* read this group...maybe has something to do with
  not having a life...or not having a right leg...or maybe my missing toe...
but then again...
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: The point
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:59:00 GMT

>>>>p.s. I haven't posted here for so long because I think most of it is shite
>>>>and you've all lost the point of real python.
>>>Did we ask you? I honestly can't remember...not since I had me brain out.
>>No you didn't ask me but I think it is sad that what used to be a funny group 
>>ca't raise a smile now. I've been a Python fan since the start in the 60s and I
>>think it's wrong to use their name for this crap.

Well, I wasn't alive in the '60's. Don't know that I'm alive now...

You may have a point. This band stuff has absolutely nothing to do w/ Python...
I love Python, always have, and I think what we're doing now is a sort of
derivative of it...quoting them, and bending to our own uses, for our own
entertainment. I think what we do (some of it anyway) is funny too. As for
the point of Python...they were silly. They admit it. We're silly too. That's
the whole point. Nothing more, nothing less. It's fun.

>Believe it or not, I agree.
>The only porblum is that it can't be changed. We/they can't be
>changed. 
>Bummer, eh?

Neh...but it CAN be changed.

>>Steve.
>mnSio
Ratboy


Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: jtaylor@seq.uncwil.edu (J.T.)
Subject: Re: What is this, a cascade?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:51:02 GMT

jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

>>>>>>}>}>One-third the size of its bum if it's got three buttocks!
>>>>>>}>}A bird with eyes like a plum, and it's got me colcuts!
>>>>>>}>My gun within a sum equals my dead mothers in Colsax.
>>>>>>}*sigh* Some heathen with a gun took my head waiter's handbag.
>>>>>>*fart*-exsqueeze me...I shot the waiter with a hypodermic
>>>>>*belch* Bugger off! I couldn't eat another bite!
>>>>*aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhchoooooooo* I think I'm allergic to it!
>>>*kaploooooeeee* Ms. Niggerbaiter's exploded!
>>*splat* *splat* *splat* Oooh look!  It's raining niggerbait!
>*squish* *squish* *squish* Was that a puddle of niggerbaiter or
>do I have to get my feet oiled again?
That depends....what size are your feet?


>>>Ratboy aka Right! This has gone far enough!
>>Meetch aka No it hasn't.  I can still see it.
>James aka Well, then you must not be doing it right!
JT aka will it please raise its hand..er apendage? and what relation
	   is 'it' to 'this'?

Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark)
Subject: Re: John Cleese sex life rumours?!
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date:  2 Sep 92 10:35:06 GMT

djohnson@gutenberg.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson) writes:

>In article <brein-260892090707@128.149.100.144> brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry Rein) writes:

>.One of the British tabloids is being sued for libel by John Cleese over
>.rumours they printed about his sex life.  What were the dastardly lies they
>.printed?

>Allegedly, Dear Ol' John liked to fool around with..uh.. shall we say,
>Baked Goods.  A Jelly doughnut was not only a tasty meal, but also
>bloody good time for Johnny-boy, and he was once caught in a cheap
>hotel under an assumed name in bed with an underage Eclair.  At this
>point the British press, aka The Mighty Heralds of Truth, did some
>serious investigating, and they found out that "John Cleese" is
>actually a clever disguise used by Vinnie Lambroghini (a notorious
>Siscilian Mafia-guy) so that he can move about Europe from Duncan
>Doughnut to Duncan Doughnut without anyone suspecting him.  Finally,
>it came out that "John" had murdered 23 young Cub Scouts who were
>delivering Cinnamon rolls to their scout meeting, and he stole and
>used their uniforms to elude capture.  Crossing the border into Libya,
>he became a high level spy for Momar Quahdafphiey, and personally
>passed on all the British and American nuclear and chemical-weapons
>secrets to the terrorists of the world.  In his most dastardly action
>to date, "John the 'Boston Strangler' Cleese" used a stolen HAM radio
>to broadcast troop movements and vital secrets to marauding Aliens
>from the planet Zort, resulting in the complete annihilation of the
>human race.

>Dan aka Thank god for the press!!

Too much peril!!

Clarkus aka Knights who sayyyyyy................NEE!!!!!!
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: REQUEST for Meaning of Life song
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:45:59 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <sprooney.715306369@unix1.tcd.ie> sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:

>>Well, I thought this was going to be more useful than it actually is, since
>>I can't find what I was looking for.  I _used_ to have a goodly portion of 
>>that song on my Mac, but I can't find the disk I put it on.

>>Anyway, the song starts off:	Remember that your standing on a planet
>>				that's evolving, and revoving at 900
>>				miles an hour, that's orbiting at 18,000
>>				miles a secon, so it's reckoned, a sun
>>				that is th esource of all its power.
>WOAH! We're moving too fast! I think I'm going to fall off! SOMEBODY
>STOP THE RIDE... I'M GOING TO BE <Slightly Intelligent Crazy
>Rosebi)
(Rosebud)

>Anyway. Anyone wants all of this song, write to me, and I'll mail
>you back telling you to wait a while coz it's at home on my hard
>disck.

>>Sorry I couldn't remember more.
>And so you should be. Now go upstairs without any supper.
But I've come to arrange a holiday!!

>ISn>?mMDJLKSAJHslakjs?
>oh.
James sls You can't print that NONSENSE around here!!!
	We won't stand for it!!
	What?

	Oh. I guess we will.
	Sorry.
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: love........
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:09:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <DJOHNSON.92Aug21025243@gutenberg.gac.edu> djohnson@gutenberg.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson) whispers sweet nothings:

>In article <1992Aug20.125633.27491@ulowell.ulowell.edu> lmasterm@cs.ulowell.edu (Lisa Masterman) writes:


>.In article <5790@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) (M i c h a e l ;-) wri
>.tes:

>.|> |> Chris aka I think that I'd rather have the garden shed.
>.|> AKA Michael. I think that I'd rather have the brownie

>.I think I'd still rather eat Johnson, sir...

>Fine with me, but you'll have to hurry 'cuz my mother is coming up
>from Aardvarksville tomarrow, and she'd probably not want to catch me
>in the midst of a dinner.

Could you have her explain how to make my Aardvark soft again?
Or isn't she from those parts (i.e. Just Resting)?

>.--lisa aka still no sign of land...
>Dan aka still no sign of mum...
Jamesa ka still no sign of "STOP"...
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Band stuff--REAL Python
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:38:00 GMT

Ok.... POST PART 1 --- about the band

Here! I forgot Jos! Sorry, guy. What you wanna play? How about compulsive 
posting?

Anyone else?

       POST PART 2 -- to appease those who hate silliness. but love MP (???)

RUN AWAY!
RIGHT!
What's all this, then?
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Dimsdale!
Drop your panties, Sir William, I cannot wait til lunchtime. (My personal 
   favorite)
Know what I mean? nudge nudge.
SPAM spam spam spam
etc...

That sould be enough to alst a few more posts...

Ratboy aka provider of the needy...and boy is there a need for them.
From: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: PS
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:30:41 GMT
Reply-To: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


00124961@ysub.ysu.edu (Chris) writes:
> ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM writes:
> >00124961@ysub.ysu.edu (Chris) writes:
> >> ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles) writes:
> >> >sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
> >> >>>>=>
> >> >>>>=>While I'm posting all these useless messages, I would just like
> >> >>>>=>to add that I have nothing to say.
> >> >>>>     Jolly good, because you're a very silly man, and I'm NOT going to
> >> >>>>interview you .... while I'm on the subject, can I just say that this is the
> >> >>>>4128789342534th useless message I've posted to alt.fan.python ..... no?
> >> >>>>thought not ....
> >> >>>>=>> >> >>>>Simon aka not ready for any musical interludes ...... yet 
> >> >>>>       [assorted sounds of a bass guitar being tuned up....]
> >> >>>Ok. We got a guitarist and a bassist...any drummers out there?
> >> >>>We need a band name...
> >> >>ME VOCALIST. ME GROWL LOWD! ME MAD CHAINSAW WIELDING ZOMBIE
> >> >>RITUALISTIC NOT-VERY-NICE-PERSON. ME LUV GRUNT. ME SING! (ISH...)
> >> >
> >> >No its not you silly man. You know very well its Greg-I-wasn't-a-
> >> >prefect-really-truly-yeah-all-right-I-was-don't-tell-my-mum.
> >> >Smith
> >> >>Band name? Um... the Leprous Hell-Wombats from the planet Norman!
> >> >Is this Frank's planet?
> >> >>>Ratboy the Tone-Deaf
> >> >>OSInm aka (as above)
> >> >Eccles aka The Lore-Bringer
> >> Chris aka I play the drums (really I do)
> >
> >Sure, sure.....let's hear you then.  Just use Jos's head as a snare and
> >Jester's foot as yer bass-pedal.
> >
> Actually, for once I'm telling the truth.  And I make good money from it.
> Almost better then when I stand on that street corner. . .

Was that you in the boots up to -------->here?
Or were you the one selling pencils?

>  
> >PKT aka cymbalism. <-----Avedis Zildjan just rolled over in his grave.
> Chris aka Roll over Bethoven, and tell Tchaikovsky his feet are cold.
> P.S.  I use only the finest Ratboyskin drumheads.

Aren't the drumheads a bit mushy?  
PKT aka boom-bariddle-<splat>-bariddle-su-su-soodio
			^^^
			 \\========>Ratboyskin drumheads