From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Hysteria
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:18:00 GMT
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Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

[some concerns about violence against foreigners deleted]

TP-ZO>Carl, You are beginning to overdo this a little bit.

[more stuff deleted]

TP-ZO>Herrgottnochmal! Carl, for for the last couple of months You've indulged
TP-ZO>hysterical warnings about the evil racist denizens of the Ostzone and iss
TP-ZO>objurgations as to the advisability of traveling there. Very well, that i
TP-ZO>Your cup of tea and I won't begrudge You all the jollies You get from it.

I do not think, that I overdo this. I don't think, it can be overdone.
If I'm wrong, the better it is.
Of course, I know that the former GDR is not full of racists. But, as I
said several times before, one single violent citizen is enough to hurt
or kill somebody. And I do know, that this will be watched by the
"Germans" around, because they agree or are scared.
And, this is important, this is not my cup of tea alone. This affects
the whole German society. Unfortunately I can't recall a quote from
Pastor Martin Niemoeller. He said something like: First, they went
out and got the Jews. I kept quiet, I was not a Jew. Then, they went out
and got the Catholics. I kept quiet, I was not Catholic. Then they went
out and got me. There was nobody left to hear my protest. (well, is
watered, but you get the idea).
The difference between you and me is, that I belong to the first group
affected. Almost nobody, who belongs to this first group, has access to
this medium (Asylbewerber do not possess computers that often). So take
my not always well considered contribution to the group as a
contribution of an affected. Again, it's easy to analyse the whole
problem(s) from a distant point of view. When you do not experience
discrimination in your life (most of the male netters in Germany will
not have experienced discrimination ever in their lives).
If I fall in hysteria, it's because the situation is worsening, and
nobody does anything to stop the development. I feel betrayed by my own
government.

TP-ZO>However, if You then start to whine about the "German image" (what ever t
TP-ZO>is supposed to be) and its deterioration here in this group, I have very
TP-ZO>great problems _not_ making bilious remarks about hypocrisy.

I'm looking forward to them. Besides, I think Germany is still the best
place to live for me. But this does not mean, that I have to be happy
with everything there.

TP-ZO>Und von wegen "DO something!", haettest Du da vielleicht ein paar
TP-ZO>Vorschlaege? Ich mein ja nur...

Nun, wie ich schon schrieb, schickt die Jugendlichen aus dem Osten um
die Welt. Es gibt bereits gut funktionierende Kulturaustausche
mit England, Frankreich, USA und anderen Laendern. Lasst sie ein paar
Wochen in einem Gastland in einer Familie verbringen. Reisen bildet.
In Deutschland muss so schnell als moeglich Ersatz fuer die
geschlossenen Jugendklubs der DDR-Zeiten geschaffen werden. Politiker
muessen mehr Handeln, denn Reden schwingen. Die bestehenden
Verfassungschutzgesetze muessen angewendet werden (ansonsten hatte
Weimar keinen Sinn). Natuerlich Erziehung vor Strafe. Es liegt mir
ueberhaupt nicht daran, alle Skinheads wegzuschliessen, wie zu
DDR-Zeiten. Ihr Leben waere zerstoert, und sie waeren verloren fuer die
Gesellschaft. Da habe ich kein Rachebeduerfnis. Aber Straftaeter muessen
als solche behandelt werden.
Jeder Einzelne Deutsche ist jetzt gefragt, sein Scherflein zu
Wiedervereinigung beuzutragen. Um Fragen vorzubeugen: Ich hatte mich
fuer eine Unterrichtsreihe ueber Auslaenderfeindlichkeit engagiert, als
ich noch in D war. Dabei kamen eine Kreuzberger und eine Lichtenberger
Klasse zusammen. Diese Aktionen muessen viel mehr passieren. Jeder kann
sein Scherflein antifaschistische Aufklaerungsarbeit beitragen
(anitfaschistisch nicht im SED-Parteideutsch-Sinn benutzt).

TP-ZO>       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de

greetinx, Carl.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * We had a meeting of the minds, but mine didn't show up
                                         
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