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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: I Borg question  (spoiler?)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:26:26 GMT

jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu  writes: 
> Ok, I hope this works....anyway, I hope this hasn't been discussed before
> when it originally aired.  If it has, just e-mail the answer to me.
> 
> When Bev and Geordi have the adolescent Borg in the lab and are asking his
> his "means of identification,"  Bev explains to him that humans have names.
> She says, "I am Beverly, and this is Geordi."  The Borg then says, "Do *I*
> have a name?"
> 
	You know, you're right.   I missed that.  It might be a blooper, but
maybe he said "I" because Bev said "I am Beverly".  Could be, but I bet
it is a goof up.

 
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From: jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef)
Subject: I Borg question  (spoiler?)
Keywords: "Do I have a name?"
Organization: Calvin College
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:17:11 GMT

I just watched the rerun of "I Borg," and I have a small question...
  (possible spoiler though)












Ok, I hope this works....anyway, I hope this hasn't been discussed before
when it originally aired.  If it has, just e-mail the answer to me.

When Bev and Geordi have the adolescent Borg in the lab and are asking his
his "means of identification,"  Bev explains to him that humans have names.
She says, "I am Beverly, and this is Geordi."  The Borg then says, "Do *I*
have a name?"

I'm pretty sure he says that.  Anyway, why does he say "I" in that particular
instance but doesn't use "I" again until Picard confronts him?  Is this
just a little slipup that no one caught, or am I just missing some
fundamental Borg thing?  Given the collective nature of the Borg, this
seems really strange to me that in that moment he uses a personal pronoun
but before and afterwards he uses a collective pronoun until he says, "*I*
am Hugh."

Please help me figure out this one.














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From: updike@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Todd F. Updike)
Subject: Re: Geordi Dies/Scotty Lives/Triva Contest
Reply-To: updike@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:26:14 GMT

In article <Rou3PB4w164w@kryton.UUCP>, ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>rjc@devo.unify.com (Ronald Cole) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Aug22.190536.26078@adx.adelphi.edu> ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ri
>>    I would rather see the enterprise pull into star system and find 
>> 

>Was the "never aired pilot" the one in which they first leave for 
>Alphacenturi?  And shows Dr. Smith sabataging the Robot and getting
>caught on the ship when it takes off...etc..etc??  If this is true, then
>I do remember seeing it, although that was quite a few years ago, I was
>about 8 or 10 at the time.  This could have been mearly the first episode,
>and the pilot is something else entirely.


Just wanted to add that I saw that episode once or twice also.
In fact, I really LOVED Lost in Space when I was a kid (in fact, I was
still watching when I was in college ! - I remember blowing off a few
physics and math classes just to watch it !! [hilarious when I think back
on my priorities !] )

I loved Doctor Smith and the way he talked and would always complain like
"Ohh the pain, the pain of it all..."
and always, "William my Boy", etc.. He was probably my favorite.
Also, I liked Don, who was always so tough and wanted to always abandon
"Smith" (as he would refer to him).

Other memory joggers:
I loved the jet-packs they would occasionally fly around in on planets,
usually looking for lost comrades, etc.

Any probably my favorite episode of all of them was I think the 2nd or 3rd 
one, where they were on this planet and there was this giant cyclops-type
creature that was hurling boulders at them as they drove around in this
land-rover type vehicle.  I thought the monster was really cool.

OK, enough on this, flame me if you want; I realize this is a startrek
forum, not a Lost in Space one, but I just had to bring forth those
fond memories.  Does any one out there relate to these ? 

- Todd

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From: tomb@atp.serum.kodak.com (Tom "USA" Bullinger (x37419))
Subject: Re: warp drive and other 10-step scales (silly)
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:37:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.153236.8896@coe.montana.edu> drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.000849.11825@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>>
>>Sometimes when I am driving, I image my speedometer to be a warp scale
>>(10 mph = 1 warp step).  Free way cruising is around warp 6 or 7.
>>Passing speed is around warp 8 or 9.  Maximum velocity of my auto is
>>around warp 10, but I've never tried it.
>
>
>Heh.  By your reckoning, I've passed warp 13 in my '64 Galaxy.  ;-)
>
>-- 
>      ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : drakonar@cs.montana.edu   <=---
>		

No, No, NO! Obviously, anything under 55 (65 in some states) is impulse
power only. That makes anything OVER 55 warp speed. Therefore, by your
scale, 65 is warp 1, 75 warp 2, etc. This is much more practical as most 
any car can exceed 100 mph (warp 4.5).


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From: jcm3r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Spaceman SPiff)
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:44:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.170031.1@vax1.umkc.edu> rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>All-
>
>I must say once and for all that I think that the Starship Enterprise is the
>most ridiculous looking starship ever dreamed up by people in Hollywood/dead
>authors/etc.
stuff deleted>
>and get more square feet for your money?  Then, we have to toothpick shaped
>things which I assume house the "engines" (boy, when was the last time the

the design of the engines as toothpick shaped things is to accomodate huge
loops of warp coils. Keep in mind that the enteprise is not propelled trough 
space by an action-reaction Newtonian engine.

--
John C. Martin
 University of Virginia, Astrophysics; CLAS II
 jcm3r@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: "Relics" info from CNN  -  SPOILERS!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:05:34 GMT

SPOILERS! ahoy for the Scotty episode this season: "Relics"




And another shield layer


Yes, according to CNN, the episode featuring Scotty is called "Relics"
and you're gonna like this bit....they have reconstructed the TOS bridge
and it features in the episode.  Looks just like the original!
My guess from what we saw Scotty doing on the bridge in the glimpses we
got from these CNN newsreports is that this bridge is a holodeck
reconstruction he's using for sentimental purposes or possibly in
the way Geordi reconstructed the Enterprise-D's prototype lab in
"Booby Trap."

The plot involves Scotty and Geordi working together to save the E-D.
(like that's a surprise to anyone)


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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: "Q, Me?"
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.232130.23529@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
 
>
>Other thing number two, he said he really rather liked "Imzadi," and
>even said he thinks the production staff at Paramount would do well
>to hire some of the novel writers to write episodes of the show.
>I guess that includes Peter David, so here's a reference for you PAD!
>
 
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!  There seems to be so many e-accolades for
for him but while he often seems to have decent premises for plots, the
novels are so predictable by page fifty or sixty that I never feel
surprised after that.
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From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: Who was hot on ST: TNG
Organization: Organized? Just look at my desk!
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:17:21 GMT

>>	Forget all of the women named up to this point.  Does anyone
>>recall the first season episode "Angel One"?  Well, Mistress Biada (?) is
>>one pretty lady.  Lucky for Riker, huh?  I don't know who played her, but
>>she looks kind of familiar?  Does anyone know who she is and where she
>>might be from?
>>
>>Does the song "California Dreaming" ring any bells for you???  Yes indeed
>>this bodacious babe is none other than the 40+ year old Michelle Phillips.
>>IMHO her daughter still has a long way to go to catch up with the original!
>>
>   You got the wrong babe.  Michelle Phillips was Picard's old flame
>in "We'll Always Have Paris"; NOT "Angel One".
>    The only way to find the name of the babe on "Angel One" would be
>to go back to a rerun or a videotape, but
>I don't watch the first season shows that often, and I don't know anyone
>who does.

Well, I got this from an episode guide. "Beate" was played by 
Karen Montgomery and "Ariel" was played by Patricia McPherson.

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From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Subject: Re: "The Outcast": a missed opportunity
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:14:01 GMT

gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....) writes:
>mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
>>Laura_Halliday@mindlink.bc.ca (Laura Halliday) writes:
>>>`The Outcast' was a major disappointment in many ways, not the least of 
>>>which
>>>was that all but one of the supposed androgynes looked approximately female,
>>>and not androgynous at all. Grumble.

>>The problem, of course, is that they're confined to using human actors, and

>	Got two words for ya.....
>	M. BUTTERFLY.
>	(Now there's a SKILL component here, but that's a whole 'nuther
>matter.....)

Huh?  What has "The Outcast" got to do with a (IMO) highly overrated opera?
You lost me here, Roger...



-- 
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Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Episode Name
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:42:45 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep1.175344.11119@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu  
(Andrew McMichael) writes:
> Help!  Could someone please E-Mail me the name of the episode
> in which Lwaxana Troi first appeared?

Coincidentally, that episode was just on last night in a re-run.  The episode
is called "Haven"

--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
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From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Jim Doohan on CNN Showbiz Today *SPOILERS*
Date: 29 Aug 92 12:58:42 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <BtpM7w.9MD@scd.hp.com>, dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.233332.10269@nntp.uoregon.edu>, wesiegel@cie.uoregon.edu (William Siegel) writes:
> |> In article <1992Aug27.125133.9014@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00ajpayne@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> |> >> definatelya character who is a relatively regular guest, like Roxanna Troi.
> |> >                                                                ^^^^^^^
> |> >								^^^^^^^
> |> >
> |> >Roxanna Troi, who the hell is that......
> |> >	A betazoid punk rock singer it sounds like.....
> |> >
> |> >Sorry no Roxanna here, only us people with real brains.
> |> >
> |> I now humble myself before the unforgiving and relentless netters who feel
> |> I have violated the sacred trust of making a mistake about this, my least 
> |> favorite, character's name.  I have fielded about 20 messages in my mailbox
> |> and feel that I have made a simple mistake.  I stand corrected and have 
> 
> [ and the apology goes on for another paragraph or two ]
> 
> You know something, folks, it is exactly this kind of abuse that this poor
> fellow has been subjected to by a small group of readers that causes those
> who are not ST fans to make the "get a life" comments and postings, and to
> view fans as some sort of freaks, as depicted on that Saturday Night Live
> episode that was hosted by Shatner.
> 
> The guy made a simple mistake, yet some people are so wrapped up in their
> fandom that they take it as a personal insult that someone might make such
> and error.
> 
> I've been an avid fan all of my life that ST:TOS and ST:TNG have been on
> the air. However, when I read stuff like this, it is apparent to me that
> some of you *do* need to get a real life. Give the guy a break, and try
> and maintain some civility.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Waller


Thanks, Dave, for saying exactly what I was thinking.  So someone misssspelled
a word -BFD.

Fran Adams
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From: vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Re: Why San Francisco? (was Star Trek vs Real Life)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 19:25:51 EDT

Jeffski@behave.berkeley.edu writes:

>>I'm curious as to the strength of the connection between ST and
>>SF.Does anyone know why there are so many references to San 
>>Francisco in Star Trek? Was Roddenberry born here, or something?

San Francisco's unique character, combined with a more temperate clim-
ate and close location relative to Hollywood, has made it ideal for 
many things, not just Star Trek.

>>Specific references include:
>>1) ST:TMP -- San Fran as Starfleet HQ location

There's a major military shipyard and base in Alameda.  ST would have
us believe that Starfleet HQ is a natural evolution from this base.

>>3) ST:TVH -- San Fran as Sulu's birthplace

Nothing unusual about that--all of the major Pacific Coast cities have
a large Asian population.  San Francisco, expecially, experienced a 
hugh wave of Asian immigration during the 19th century because of the
gold rush and the railway.

>>4) ST:TVH -- San Fran as site of whale search 
>>                (San Fran in the 1980s)

>>7) ST:TNG -- (twice so far) as a Starfleet Academy location

As a natural extension of HQ.  See point above.

>>8) ST:TNG -- (several times) as location of Dixon Hill's office
>>on the holodeck
>>                (San Fran in the 1940s)

The grandaddy of hard-boiled detective novels, The Maltese Falcon, is
set in San Francisco.  As is The Continental Op series.  Don't blame
TNG, blame Dashiell Hammett.

>>9) ST:TNG -- (soon to be twice) as site of strange alien occurances
>>                (San Fran in the 1880s)

Hey, the place is famous for being weird, what with the Ripley's Be-
lieve It or Not museum, the strange items on Fisherman's Wharf, the
Haight-Ashbury, etc.  A veritable hotbed of pseudo-New Age memorabil-
ia.  So what's wrong with taking advantage of the local reputation?

>>________
>>Jeffski.
>>________

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From: dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan)
Subject: Re: Borg as Humans (Humanoids)
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:00:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.194403.6627@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT) writes:
|Why is it that ALL Borgs look human.  I understand that to be a Borg it would
|make sense that a species would need to be humanoid, but why aren't any of the
|Borg Klingons, Romulan, Ferengi, or an other for that matter?  It was also 
|mentioned earlier about the Federation continually running into the Borg.
|What about the Romulans or Klingons fighting the Borg?  Hmmm, strange!  

	If you'll recall, Dr. Crusher noted that Picard's DNA was being altered
by the Borg implants.

	My guess is that when you get plugged in, they genetically alter you to
their norm.


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From: Tom@freddyk.uucp (Thomas Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Vulcans in TNG
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:37:41 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nightmares R Us

perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) says:
[Stuff Deleted]

>
>I don't remember which episode this was from, but there was an episode
>where Spock sensed the sudden destruction of a starship that was crewed
>entirely by Vulcans.
>
The Immunity Syndrom.

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From: Charles Laine <Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU>
Subject: Idea on Returning from SanFrancisco
Organization: Baylor University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:41:39 GMT
X-Posted-From: lainec.baylor.edu
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How will the 1701-D crew return from the 19th century to their own time?

How about this...

The crew lives ordinary lives until the time of "City on the Edge of
Forever".  A few of them die of old age by this time.  They send Data
through the big rock-donut and he exits with Kirk and crew.  Then, data
waits around until the Boseman is commisioned.   He hitches a ride on the
Boseman, and waits till it exits the causality loop returning him to his
normal time.  Data then borrows a bird of Prey from his Klingon friends
made in "Redemption" and hunts down Spock to help him fetch the 1701-D
crew.  Spock and Data perform time travel around the sun and succesfully
arrive at San Fransisco at the time of "Time's Arrow".  They remembered
to bring extra dylithium crystals this time.  They pick up the rest of
the crew, somehow destroy the menace presented in the first half of
"Time's Arrow", and attempt to return to their proper time.  But, oops,
during the return time trip, someone askes Spock 'How do you feel"?  This
distracts Spock long enough to screw up the time travel computations. 
The Bird of Prey ends its time travel journey 22 years earlier than it
should.  Guinan, who's perception "goes beyond linear time" instructs
Picard that the Enterprise C will be making a stop in the Future.  So,
everyone hops abord the Enterprise C, heads for Nirendra 3 and waits for
the rift to open.  The temporal rift opens, the Enterprise C exits 22
years later, and the 1701-D crew is returned to their normal time.

The End
From: zrde05@trc.amoco.com (Robert D. Ess)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Nimoy/Hallmark
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:27:48 GMT
Reply-To: zrde05@trc.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research

Leonard Nimoy is in a _great_ new commercial for the shuttle ornaments from Hallmark
for this year. Anyone else catch it? I saw it for the first time last night watching
TNG.

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From: tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
Subject: Season Premiere: Data Invents Spagetti-O Machine in 1890's
Organization: Northern Telecom, Network Applications Systems, Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:35:12 GMT

Well, that could be one explanation.
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No scripts???
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:16:40 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.040400.14129@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

>>  * TNG's script supply was almost completely depleted at the end
>>    of season 4, forcing them to scramble to get this season going.
>>    Gee... I couldn't tell (;-)

>Isn't this the show that gets 10,000 spec submissions a year?  Come on,
>they can't ALL be bad...

Oh, yes they can.  You'd be surprised.

Tim Lynch
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From: Tony.Prats@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Tony Prats)
Subject: Did he, or didn't he?
Summary: Did Picard do the nasty with an empathic mesomorph?
Keywords: Picard mesomorph sex sex sex
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:02:00 GMT

I hope this hasn't been done to death, but I just saw "The Perfect Mate", the
episode where the Enterprise is used for a diplomatic mission to bring a
perfect woman to an ambassador to make peace.  Picard becomes attracted to
her and she bonds with Picard.  Anyway, at the end of the episode, the
Ambassador says to Picard "How did you resist her?"
All Picard says is "Have a good trip home, Ambassador."

My roommate says that this means that Picard was plowing a fresh field.  I
think it just means that Picard just doesn't want to discuss it.  Does
anyone have any conclusive evidence one way or another?

							tony
Y Not?


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