HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Presidential Polls (Was: Re: Bye Bye Dan)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 07:07:21 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

pape@miller.cs.uwm.edu writes:

> My question is, how come no one ever calls me for one of these polls? I
> have recently been contacted for a poll concerning my state Senate race,
> but no one has ever called me for a presidential poll. Has anyone out
> there ever actually been contacted for one?
>

Sampling for these things can get really wierd.  I did some consulting work for
a pollster one time, and I swear, I think he just opened up a phone book for
names.  I know he didn't, but that's what the list looked like when it was
finished.

BTW, to answer your question, I've never been contacted for a *national* poll,
but was contacted by phone back in '84 for a state-wide poll on that year's
Presidential race...



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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: The Republicans are confusing me again...
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 06:18:22 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

erics@sco.COM (eric smith) writes:

>
> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>
> >As the primaries take away the lustre of the convention in terms of the
> >nomination process, we'll see more and more coronations.  Since '76,
> >conventions have either been the scenes of coronations or of fratricide.  Th
> >'84 Dem convention is an exception because the candidiates were such jokes t
> >there was little hope that any of them could beat Reagan.  That meant the De
> >could spend more time arguing principles, since they just about knew they we
> >going to lose the big one.
>
> On the other hand, a convention which holds some suspense can actually
> help the eventual nominee if it doesn't become fratricidal because it
> will mean more people tuning in plus the opportunity for the winner to
> look like a winner. Such was the case with Kennedy in 1960.
>

You're quite correct.  Unfortunately, '60 was pre-racial tension, and that
attributes for the suspense without fratricide on the Deomocrat side.  There
was a bit of suspense on the GOP side in '88, trying to figure out who
'Rubbers' Bush was going to nominate for veep.  Then he nominated Our Boy and
it's been downhill on suspense for the last four years.



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From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Murphy, you owe me
Keywords: dan murphy halfwit
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <jberger.13.0@novell.com> jberger@novell.com (John Berger) writes:
>BTW:  Saw in the paper today that JDQ said in a speech after Candace Bergen 
>won her Emmy award: "I just have one thing to say:  Murphy, you owe me!"
>
Ho, ho, ho.  That Dan-o is such a wit.  To be precise, since his
comment (who writes his stuff?) was only fractionally funny,
he is just a half-wit.

I thought his little joke was ironically consistent with his view
of politics and life in general.  His grasp of history is so
weak that he apparently does not know that MB was a popular
and Emmy winning show for years before he began pontificating
about it.  In standard Republican fashion, he lays claim to
a situation (MB's success) for which he is not the least bit
responsible:  indeed, the Dandroid has received more free
exposure from the tv cultural elite over the MB scuffle than
for any other event since the 1988 election.  In an odd way,
the whole MB business is no different than the photo ops with
sports champions which are craved by politicians of all persuasions.

Who owes whom?



-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |    sieferme@u.washington.edu          |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |    (206) 685-3104                     |
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:57:38 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: G.I. Dan

I just saw our man Dano on the CBS Evening News saying that Bill Clinton
"has to come clean" on his draft record....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!  (He even said it with a straight face).

Jeff Luck                               *Standard Disclaimer*
CES Systems Office         "You call home to mother and father and say
Penn State University       'I'd like to get into the National Guard....'"
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU              -Dan's response to the draft, 1988
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: Quayletool
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:02:05 GMT

In article <ellis.715376701@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
>cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht) writes:
>>OK.  Here I am answering my own posting.  To get this to compile,
>>I changed config.h by specifying the full path instead of using
>>FILE_PATH variable.
>>	#define AUTHOR_FILE <specify full path here>
>>      [remaining instructions deleted]
>
>I had already done all this, but still find Danny-boy will not "speak".
>
>I get the picture, but I just get the list of contributors in the window
>under jdq.  The buttons for prev and next are inactive (faint dashed lines).


Perhaps you've got the post-election version?


Dhanesh

  We should be so lucky.


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: schenn@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Lisa Henn)
Subject: Planes (was about forgiving Bush)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  3 Sep 1992 08:21 EDT  

In article <1992Sep2.042357.17091@ttinews.tti.com>, bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart) writes...


> I'm reasonably certain
>that ANY aircraft (or maybe any military aircraft?) which happens to
>have the President aboard is called "Air Force One." 

That agrees with my understanding.  The usual Air Force 1 & 2 (the plane of our
hero) are painted the same and are often interchanged (ie, the prez rides on
either).  Whichever one is in the President's service at hte time is refered
to as "Air Force 1", and the one carting Dan is "Air Force 2".

L
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: shallit@graceland.uwaterloo.ca (Jeffrey Shallit)
Subject: Re: Quayle gets it wrong again
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:32:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.143646.15192@news.acns.nwu.edu> birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush) writes:
>In article <168548F36.DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com> DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>>In article <BtunDr.8y1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
>>shallit@graceland.uwaterloo.ca (Jeffrey Shallit) writes:
>>
>>While I'm at it, I also think (a) sending harassing E-mail to Tucker Quayle is
>>just fine (e.g. "How did your sister's abortion go?"), (b) that Bush and Quayle
>>will still win the election, and (c) that it's not important to VOTE for
>>Clinton and Gore to get the current idiots out.  As far as I'm concerned
>>they're all turds out of the same toilet.  By all means vote, but only take
>>local stuff like the school board, property tax, etc. seriously.  For
>>president vote for the bottom name on the ballot (like I do) or write in daffy
>>duck.  The "major" party's two candidates are functionally equivalent, and to
>>maintain the farce that there is a choice is damaging to the long-range
>>interests of the country.
>

PLEASE be careful about editing the attribute lines.  I did NOT write the 
above.

Jeff Shallit
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: rbw3q@helga9.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Whitehurst)
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:44:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.182233.9164@sma2.rain.com> fred@sma2.rain.com (Fred Brooks) writes:
>In article <BtusHz.BsC@scd.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
...
>>in Bush's denial of blame, he simply replaced the word "Congress" with
>>the words "governor of Florida."  He lost me on that one.
>>
>>I don't have the exact verbage.  He said something like,
>>
>>"Blame is not appropriate in a situation like this.  But the governor
>>of Florida could have contacted me sooner."
>>
>
>Well place blame where it should be. The governor has to send a formal request
>to the federal government to get them to send troops. When Bush was in
>Florida monday he told Gov Chiles that the troops were standing by. Don't
>you think if the demos could blame this on bush they would be all over the news.
>That brain-dead Democrat Gov. screwed UP!!!
>
...
>Fred Brooks   			        Portland Oregon

	Welll, actually, I think it is long-standing custom to have
the state request feds.  I don't believe there is any statutory
prohibition against mobilizing federal troops into a state, although
when it has been done, it was in response to recalcitrant state
gov'ts.  defying federal law (like in the civil rights struggle...'tho
I think the Guard was "federalized" rather than using regular
troops). 
	I wouldn't necessarily yell at Bush for not sending troops.  I
WOULD yell at him for letting the incompetence of FEMA persist.  I
have family in Charleston, SC, and FEMA STILL hasn't finished
processing cases from Hugo.  They are bureaucrats totally unfit for
providing "emergency" response.

-- 

Brad Whitehurst    |   Aerospace Research Lab
rbw3q@Virginia.EDU |   We like it hot...and fast.
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From: sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 11:10:57 EDT
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc.

linley@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Linley) writes:

> In article <1992Aug31.205803.29921@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.c
> >
> >Er ... I think Marilyn Quayle has something to do with this.  As I recall,
> >she wanted *something* to do, so they made her some uppity-up in FEMA -- the
> >Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is responsible for coordinating
> >disaster preparations between the federal government and the states...
> >
> 
> WHAT??????
> 
> Can this be true?  The Ms. Danster herself is PART of the PROBLEM?  Can anyon
> verify this affiliation?
> 


From "The Washington Post", Tues., Sept. 1, Section B, Page 3, Column 3:


MRS. QUAYLE TO THE RESCUE

If you've been wondering where Marilyn Quayle has been since Hurricane
Andrew hit, you aren't the only one. The vice president's wife -- who
early on chose disaster relief as her cause and made highly publicized
appearances after the Bay Area earthquake and Hurricane Hugo -- is
taking a quieter approach now. According to a spokeswoman, she slipped
out of town Sunday on a "low-key trip" to south Florida, at the
invitation of Transportation Secretary Andrew Card, who was appointed
by President Bush to coordinate the relief effort.

"She's down there working to help coordinate logistics among all the
agencies. ...She said the devestation is unbelievable," said the
spokeswoman, who added that Mrs. Quayle kept the trip under wraps
because she felt she could accomplish more without the glare of
publicity.

Quayle, who's on the advisory board of the Federal Emergency Management
Agency, has also made low-profile visits recently to Oakland after the
forest fires and to two California sites that were hit by earthquakes.

No decision has been made on how long she'll stay or on whether she'll
travel to Louisiana, which also felt Andrew's wrath. David Duke, one
time senatorial and gubernatorial candidate who dropped a bid for
the Republican Nomination earlier this year, stated "all right-thinking
people should welcome the Quayles' committment to family values in this
time of crisis."

Barbara Bush will be visiting both states, however. She's canceled
political appearances scheduled for today in New Jersey and Delaware to
accompany the president on trips to the areas, her spokeswoman said
yesterday.


Sunil Gupta
Monsoon Software, Inc.
sg@monsoon.com

PS - the David Duke part is mine.
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From: DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: I...RON...NEE
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:12:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Organization: GM Research Labs

Reagan was, in fact, President of the SAG, and in that capacity narced on
SAG members to the Senate Committe on Unamerican Activities.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jpinteri@gdansk.qualcomm.com (Jay Pinterics)
Subject: Re: I'm dragging out the old T-shirt
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:45:16 GMT


>>Fergit Bill 'n' Opus... vote Calvin 'n' Hobbes!
>
>No no no! Reverse the ticket! Hobbes would make a much better president. For
>one thing, he'll be almost guaranteed not to throw up on anyone, unlike Calvin,
>who'd probably do it just for the hell of it. Secondly, do we really want a
>president with at least three secret identities? What will happen if a call
>goes out for the mighty powers of Stupendous Man while President Calvin is in
>a summit meeting? Thirdly, I wouldn't trust Calvin with any real firepower,
>considering what he can do with a baseball bat.
>
>Come to think of it, I don't even trust Calvin as VP. Secretary of State,
>perhaps, but if we want a *real* choice to serve as President-and-First-
>Tiger Hobbes' standby, we need to think hard about Susie Derkins. 

Yes, but Spaceman Spiff is more qualified than our current VP to be 
chairman of the National Space Adivisory Council.  :-)

-jlp





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From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:23:57 GMT
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI

In article <Z26DqB6w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>,
elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> Had he wanted to really show he cared for the people of FL and LA,
> he would have shown up in Miami riding in a C-5A loaded with supplies rather
> than Air Force One.

Said C-5A would then have been...Air Force One.  I'm reasonably certain
that ANY aircraft (or maybe any military aircraft?) which happens to
have the President aboard is called "Air Force One." As I understand it,
it's not a specific airplane, it's more like a commercial airline's
"flight number."

---------

A fanatic is someone who does what he knows that God would do if God knew the
facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello)
Subject: Re: This shall not stand.
Reply-To: bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:20:35 GMT


In a previous article, danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) says:

>In article <1992Aug24.224617.5938@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu
>(Bradley S. Corsello) writes:
>> 
>> That would be fun, but what if the Republicans LIKE bats?  After all, the 
>> typical GOPper would have a soft spot in his heart for blood-sucking, 
>> disease-carrying, flea-bitten, winged vermin.
>
>   Sirrah!  How dare you!  Bats are an important insectivourous component of
>the eco system; most do not suck blood.  Why a fruit bat once scared the living
>daylights out of Jonny Carson on national tv!  In some parts of Europe the sale
>price of a house increases if a colony of bats live on the premisis.  Bats are
>out friends.  Kids: don't pick up a sick bat.  Those _do_ tend to have rabies.
>

I stand corrected.  By the way, I ate a fruit bat once.  It didn't taste
anything LIKE fruit.

>   Why don't we release 1,000,000 misquitoes?  They are truely worthless.  Even
>their polination tasks can be taken up by other spiecies.  Also, they fit all
>but the flea bitten component of the above specifications.  :)

A sound suggestion, as long as the skeeters are carrying malaria and bovine
encephelitus.
-- 
Brad Corsello (bsc7@po.cwru.edu) 2L Case Western Reserve Law School
"The Fanaticks have always had a way of affecting to run into Per-
secution, and count vast Merit upon every little Hardship they suffer."
^ J. Swift.  "Factum clarum, jus nebulosum."  Rex v. Haddock.
From: afc@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Dan's Kid Conceived Before Marriage?
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:24:54 -0500

In article <hmiller.714948919@lucpul.it.luc.edu>, hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Hugh Miller) writes:
> In <ZACCONE.92Aug25061201@rigel.cs.bucknell.edu> zaccone@rigel.cs.bucknell.edu (Rick Zaccone) writes:
> 
>>An article about Dan in last week's NYT mention that he and Marilyn
>>got married after dating just 10 weeks in 1974.  It also mentioned
>>that his oldest kid is 18 years old.  I'm wondering if this was a
>>shotgun wedding.  Does anyone know?  What are the dates of his wedding
>>and his oldest kids birth?
> 
>>In Marilyn's interview in Newsweek she said that her kids knew better
>>than to get pregnant before marriage.  This would cast new light on
>>her self-righteous tone.
> 
>     Hmmm... Who's Who in America lists their wedding date as 18 November
> 1972.
> 
>     If correct, bummer.
> 
>     -=- H.
> -- 
> Hugh Miller         | Dept. of Philosophy | Loyola University of Chicago
> Voice: 312-508-2727 |  FAX: 312-508-2292  |    hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu
> "Read broadly, think scientifically, speak briefly, and sell the goods!"
>             -- Sinclair Lewis, _The Man Who Knew Coolidge_

Who's Who in <whatever> publishes whatever the person sends them in the
way of personal data.  If the Quayles had an once of sense, they would
conveniently move their marriage data back a year.  It seems to me that
the best way to answer the question is to look in an Indiana paper for
that date and see if there is an announcement.

A.F. Cockburn
From: rone@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle/Bush Competency?
Date: 26 Aug 1992 12:20:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug25.114434.2017@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>To all Bush and Quayle bashers--

What?  No "Dear "?

[good logic about not getting more illegal immigrants in the US if Mexico is
prosperous]

>Unable to find
>jobs (or at least decent jobs) here, they turn to crime, the one
>occupation which never seems to suffer from economic hard times.  

Eh, hello?  It's only a drop in the bucket.  Most of the crime here is per-
petrated by US Citizens.  SOme of them aren't even citizens yet because they're
under 18.

Anyhow, i don't think NAFTA is an issue in this group.

>  Second, Quayle and his slip ups.  Did anyone notice that Clinton
>and Gore _both_ butchered Bible quotes in their speeches at the Demo
>Convention?  Religious leaders were upset, but how much press coverage
>did it receive?  Nada.  Anyone care to guess what would have happened
>if Quayle did the same thing?

Quayle wouldn't have done it since he is very devout (yeah, like who cares)
In case you haven't noticed, religion is becoming less and less important 
because it alienates people.

>The fact is, liberals who know Quayle's
>past record, who know what Dan Quayle really is like, are _scared_ of
>him; they have been since he was named.

Too bad i can't guffaw across the net.

>Quayle isn't some bumbling idiot; he's a very competent politician.

Oh, what the hell.

HAW HAW HAW.

He may be a well intentioned man.  I cannot dispute that.  But as a politician,
he sucks.  With him it's always a "2 steps back, 3 forward, 4 back" deal.

BTW "liberal media" was a term (oxymoron) coined by conservatives who didn't
like being exposed as frauds. Just so you know.

>  That's my opinion - it ought to be yours.

Hello?  Do i see fascism through your selfrighteous thin mask of "a registered
independent"?

5150
That's MY opinion.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: Re: Quayle gets it wrong again
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:36:46 GMT

In article <168548F36.DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com> DSTEPHEN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>In article <BtunDr.8y1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
>shallit@graceland.uwaterloo.ca (Jeffrey Shallit) writes:
>
>While I'm at it, I also think (a) sending harassing E-mail to Tucker Quayle is
>just fine (e.g. "How did your sister's abortion go?"), (b) that Bush and Quayle
>will still win the election, and (c) that it's not important to VOTE for
>Clinton and Gore to get the current idiots out.  As far as I'm concerned
>they're all turds out of the same toilet.  By all means vote, but only take
>local stuff like the school board, property tax, etc. seriously.  For
>president vote for the bottom name on the ballot (like I do) or write in daffy
>duck.  The "major" party's two candidates are functionally equivalent, and to
>maintain the farce that there is a choice is damaging to the long-range
>interests of the country.

While I don't agree that fucking with Tucker is a cool thing to do, I would
strongly agree that local political activity is the only kind to be taken
seriously, and even that is slowly winding out of reach.  As the modern world
of telecommunications connects everyone to each other, it does so by cutting
ties between individuals, and tying everyone to the same central node
(television) so everyone gets all there information from the same place.  It's
really sinister.

And to paraphrase a recent poster (who undeservedly took a lot of shit, as I
recall), anyone who votes for Clinton ON THE GROUNDS THAT (see the pretty
qualifier, boys and girls?) he will be more earthy, grassroots, interested in
the country's success, well-being, etc. is only fooling h[(im)|(er)] self.

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