HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: Are we dead??
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:33:50 GMT

In article <3360@his.UUCP> di1helol@claudius (Helge Olsen) writes:
>Are there no users of COHERENT out there?? I bought COHERENT 3.2.1A
>(I really let commercials convince me sometimes) in hope to learn more
>about UNIX, and perhaps create some great software with/for it. The
>funny thing is, that I feel quite alone around here, with noone ever
>posting anything for this group (That's not true, but almost).
>Why don't we discuss programming, projects (as perhaps a simple X10
>server) and things like that?? I also read the MINIX news, and they
>have a lot of nice discussions going on, and sometimes there are some
>source code postings. Why not the same here (isn't this comp.os ?)?

Yes, we are out here.  Hmmm...I thought the group was pretty active lately.  I
have upgraded to 4.0 but started out with 3.2.1A.

Actually, a comp.os.coherent project isn't a bad idea.  I guess most of us are
'loner programmers' so we tend to 'port&program alone'.

As for source postings, they generally aren't liked in this group.  Some people
have to pay for their feeds and they would rather not see 10 part 50K postings.
Several times we have RFD'd for comp.os.coherent.sources but there has never
been much support for it.

>What I said about the X10 server is not a joke, I think it would be
>possible even with a 286 and a mono graphics card. Anyone interested?

I have never seen the source for X10.  Does it need sockets?  It probably does.
Without sockets, you will be hard pressed to port X10.  It might be easier to 
write a simple GUI from scratch or port one without sockets.

With Coherent 4.0, we don't have a device driver kit yet.  Until we do, a GUI 
is kind of out of reach.

Anybody have an idea for a programming project?  I think porting is best done
alone, unless it's a really big job; the communication overhead would not be 
worth it.  For a start-from-scratch project, however, it would be beneficial.

Harry
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From: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: rz problems at 9600 baud
Date: 7 Nov 92 07:23:33 GMT
Organization: A.T.W.W.

> jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes:
> 
> >Has anyone experienced problems using rz/sz at 9600 baud?  I just
> >bought a 9600 baud modem and am experiencing problems I've never had
> >before (at 2400).  I give my remote host the sz command, then call rz
> >using minicom's receive feature, and the computer proceeds to give me
> >all sorts of error messages one after the other (sometimes getting some

Try switching to using hardware flow control at both the modem end and the
tty port.  Consult your modem manual for the exact command string required,
but for Coherent you want to be sure to be using devices like com1fl and
com1fr.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.unix.questions
From: darkrat@cs.mcgill.ca (Christopher OLIVE)
Subject: finger trace
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:06:44 GMT


     Is there a way to track the path back to someone who fingerd you from
site? doing it locally is easy but...


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From: root@duncan.alt.ns.ca ("", David John Murdoch at duncan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:36:46 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

In article <COHERENT%92110502202586@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU> you write:
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>Subject: Re: 4.0 suggestions
>From: rjt%softin.lonestar.org@harvunxw.BITNET (Richard Threlkeld)
>Comments: Validated
>Message-Id: <yJyqTB1w165w@softin.lonestar.org>
>Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 22:36:45 CST
>In-Reply-To: <9211020815.AA00224@dalek.mwc.com>
>Organization: Software Innovation, Arlington, Tx
>
>bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes:
>
>>
>> I have personally noted an average 25% increase in throughput, but your milea
>> may vary.
>>
>I have had many, many problems getting Taylor to work (v1.03) with
>my Coherent 4.0 system.  Though I know you (that is MWC) do not
>support Taylor, could you give me any information on how you
>have configured Taylor.
>
>If I do not get it working reliably soon, I will be returning to the
>slower COH version.
>
>More specifically, it talks well with my Unix news feed, but does not
>complete transfers with my DOS/Waffle box.  The Unix news feed has no
>problems with the DOS/Waffle.  I also get errors where uucico hangs
>holding the port and the modem has dropped CD.  The init task
>puts up messages saying it cannot attach the port and the system
>eventually hangs up requiring a re-boot.
>
>Thanks for any assistance.

I can send you the config that Joachim sent me.

Total size 27+k.

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From: dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Where is wnews 3.1?
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:05:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: panix.1992Nov12.160533.407
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I have read about wnews 3.1 being released - it's not on mwcbbs, though.
I really need it, if it eliminates the corrupt active file problem.
I don't have ftp access, so that's out.

Anyone have success with cnews (yes, I know a few of you have). But I still
can't get the darn thing to work.  I wouldn't mind so much if wnews worked
right...

Also, anyone get trn to work?  Tin is nice, but old habits die hard!

| Dan |

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From: kestas@lith.UUCP (Kestutis Sliupas)
Subject: Re: Help needed installingelm
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:22:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Vacaville, CA

michael@mkrbram.os.open.de (Michael Kreutzmann) writes:
> dfilip@colorne.colornet.com () writes:
> : Help ! Last night I downloaded elm from MWCBBS, and am having problems building
> : it.
> : 
> : First, what I find odd is that there are multiple versions of some files when
> : I attempt to unzip the download :
< details deleted>
> 
> This is your problem. It's not a elm-problem, it's a unzip-problem.
> Unzip doesn't create subdirectorys, needed for elm.
< MS-DOS details deleted> 
Hi:
	The real problem is using unzip improperly. Using the command
"unzip -d" re-creates the original directory structure.
	I must have missed the elm doc instructions earlier; my docs
and man pages end up with docname.l <the trailing char is strange; and
the shell tries to use "tbl" to format the docs. Any suggestions?
	Email would help keep down the bandwidth.
				Regards, Kestas

 Kestutis Sliupas            x  (510) 231-1540 (work voice) 
 kestas%lith@infopro.com     x  (510) 231-1285 (work FAX) USA CA  
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From: kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Paragraph sign on german keyboards
Summary: Paragraph is a Control Character
Keywords: ISO8859-1 CP437
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 01:09:57 MET
Organization: The Blues Family

rzsaj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Andreas Jung) writes:

> Is there a way to use the german paragraph with Coherent 4.0.
> I am using Coherent on a NCR Notebook. But the german keyboard
> will not display the paragrah sign.

The "german?" paragraph character coded in IBM Code Page 437 is
actually a control code character. Maybe that's why it doesn't
get displayed. ;-)   I don't know if there's a suitable way to
solve this right now.

If you use ISO 8859-1 character encoding, things like this do not
happen. On the other hand Coherent doesn't support ISO 8859-1, as
much as I know.

> Is there a way to do this ????

Yeah, but you won't like it.   :-)

MWC would have to change their console drivers to support ISO 8859-1 -
well, as much as the hardware allows this. Using VGAs this wouldn't be
a problem at all.

Slinte

        Kosta


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From: ericm@ims.com (Eric Martinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Virtual Memory
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:57:08 GMT
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.

There have been several threads discussing the features of the future
release of Coherent.  Assuming that virtual memory is one of the features
for a future release of Coherent, what is a ball park estimate of availability
for this release?

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From: kkress@phent.UUCP (Kenneth R. Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:40:52 GMT
Organization: That's Entertainment BBS
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Lou Sortman (lou@fullfeed.fullfeed.com) wrote:
> I installed the Taylor UUCP package on my system and have found that a site
> that I used to be able to poll with coherent's uucp not gives me an error like:
> something about a garble command 'S'.  I don't have the log right here.
> The really strange thing is that I am able to do the exact same thing with
> another site (sysV.3 HDB) without the problem.

	I, too, got the 'garbled' error. My news feed uses SVR4
and did a grep of the Taylor sources he had. There was no
'garbled' in the sources! I see that mwc has a newer version of
Taylor and wonder if 'garbled' is a "new" error message. I'd
appreciate it if replies to Lou could be copied to
dsinc!phent!kkress or posted.

> Is there enough of a difference between flavors of uucp that Taylor gets confused?
> I like many of the features of Taylor.  I just wish I could get it to work
> at least as well as stock uucp.
> Any suggestions? (be nice)
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lou Sortman
> AnchorBank, S.S.B
> My opinions are mine alone.  My employer is not responsible for them.

			Ken
From: rzsaj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Andreas Jung)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Paragraph sign on german keyboards
Date: 7 Nov 1992 13:00:06 GMT
Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes,Rechenzentrum
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de

Is there a way to use the german paragraph with Coherent 4.0.
I am using Coherent on a NCR Notebook. But the german keyboard
will not display the paragrah sign.

Is there a way to do this ????


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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: W-news help needed...
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:22:22 GMT
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
: Help!!
: 
: My "history" file is out of control!!
: 
: I thought expire was supposed to prune this.  If not, how can I reduce
: the size?  Any suggestions?

No, expire doesn't crunch the history file. Only when "cancel" messages
are received, this entrys are removed from the history. At the moment
I would suggest to reduce the size of the history file by hand with an
editor or an filter program like sed or awk. Remove the oldest lines!
For wnews 3.2 I'm thinking about an expire-like program for the history,
this is one point from the todo list of wnews 3.1.
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From: marktn@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (It's Me!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Installing Coherent 4.0.1A, and at wit's end...
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:11:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

> kranitz@mr.med.ge.com (Wes Kranitz 4-6857 MRCE) writes:
> > Is it only me, or has anyone else noticed that while Coheren
> > and the rotating "/" is occuring, A periodic "Buy Cohware!" 
> > It's so fast it's almost impossible to see.
> 
> Yep, it's there... Hmmm... last I heard subliminal advertising
> 

Subliminal advertising IS illegal.  The periodic 'buy' messages from
Mark Williams Company concerns me.  If this was taken to court, could
some-one sue MWC?
From: bill@twinbrk.uucp (Bill Shotts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: W-news help needed...
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:38:58 GMT
Reply-To: bill%twinbrk%media@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Twinbrook Coherent System - Rockville, Maryland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
: Help!!
: 
: My "history" file is out of control!!
: 
: I thought expire was supposed to prune this.  If not, how can I reduce
: the size?  Any suggestions?

I discovered this problem too.  I run a script in my crontab to control
its length and do other maintenance as follows:

--------------------------- cut here -----------------------------

#	shell program to perform daily news system maintainence
#	william shotts, jr.	oct. 1992

NEWSDIR=/usr/lib/news
DAYS=5

#	expire old news
$NEWSDIR/expire -e $DAYS

#	control length of log files
cp $NEWSDIR/log $NEWSDIR/log.1
cp $NEWSDIR/errlog $NEWSDIR/errlog.1
rm -f $NEWSDIR/log
rm -f $NEWSDIR/errlog

#	control length of history file
cp $NEWSDIR/history $NEWSDIR/history.1
awk '
{
	if (NF < 8) {
		print $0
	}
}
' $NEWSDIR/history.1 > $NEWSDIR/history

--------------------------- cut here -----------------------------

In the awk program the number of fields (NF < 8) is governed by the
number of days that you keep news.  Note also that this script must be
run as user "news" to have proper access to the news files.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs)
Subject: Rz with what comm package?
Reply-To: uunet!erato!jdb
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:48:07 GMT


I was wondering if anyone has gotten rz/sz working with any comm
packages other than minicom?  I rather liked mcu, but couldn't 
figure out how to get rz to work.  I like xcmalt less, and it won't
work with that either.  Minicom annoys me, and rz/sz works like a 
charm.

-John     uunet!erato!jdb

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: 4.0 suggestions
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:46:48 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

gerald@csoft.UUCP (Gerald Abshez) writes:

> In a related vein, does anyone know if COPS or CRACK has made it
> over to the COH side? How about CRASHME? 

I've got the original source for COPS 1.04 sitting on my system, and it's very
high on my "todo" list (right after finishing off dominion and playing with
Exporter some more). That means I could get to it next week, or not till next
year, but I do want it running so if nobody else attempts it I will work on it
at some stage.

I expect porting it will be seriously non-trivial, but I believe a lot of it
is shell script and I'm getting the hang of "fixing" things for Coherent's
/bin/sh. There will also be a lot of stuff that won't be applicable to a
Coherent environment (eg Networking security checks).

						- k
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From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU ("", Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: What is going on?
Date: 14 Nov 92 05:05:50 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


	Does anyone know what is going on with Coherent?  I heard a lot
of stuff about tape support, 32-bit device driver kit, networking, and
some bug fixes.  I've been reading the coherent list but haven't seen
anything about the above.  Is MWC releasing a new version 4 any time soon?
I have since started using Linux because I needed to do some work and
Coherent couldn't handle it and I'm happy.  However, if MWC gets a new
version of Coh 4 out the door, I'd like to use it.  Coherent has a lot
of things I like and I want to use it for a project too.  Just can't do
it until they put in tape support, networking, and a nice C compiler
(I know that MWC's C compiler is nice, but it isn't ANSI or C++ and I
have to use them a little, not that I would care otherwise).  No, I
don't see putting an $800 commercial C compiler on my $99 UNIX clone.

	What is the status of dBman.  Someone had said they were using
it (or trying to).  Does it work good?



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Newport News, VA               |** space for rent **
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From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: com ports
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:30:12 GMT
Reply-To: udo@umunk.gun.de
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany

Richard.Scranton@f430.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Scranton) writes:

[...]
>"asy" page 453.  One caveat about patching the kernel that is not
>mentioned in the article:  if  you are patching the kernel, go to
>single-user mode.   In multi-user  mode, Coherent will  not allow
>you to write to a running binary (like /coherent).

You never should write to the running kernel, not in multi-user mode
nor in single-user mode! Create a new test kernel, coh.test as an example.
Then remove /autoboot and reboot the system. Because of the missing
autoboot the bootstrap now prompts for the name of the kernel to boot.
Now type coh.test to boot your new created kernel. If this kernel
doesn't run you now are able to reboot the system and type coherent
at the boot prompt, to boot your old working kernel. After some
testing of the new kernel you may now create a link to autoboot
(ln coh.test autoboot), to autoboot your new kernel. I would
really suggest never to remove or overwrite your original kernel
created from the distribution disks. This way you always are able
to boot an running kernel, for the case that something is wrong
with a new created one.
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From: patbob@sequent.com (Patrick White)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: GCC
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:54:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov11.195413.27482
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <9211110010.07@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <BxI9K5.sM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> rasumner@zeno23.math.UWaterloo.ca (Reuben Sumner) writes:
>>Where can the MWC port of GCC 2.2.2 be found? My understanding of the GPL
>
>MWC hasn't released it yet.  MWC has been known in the past for their expertise
>in writing C compilers.  They have a whole suite of tools for debugging
>output from compilers, and they won't release GCC until it passes to their 
>satisfaction.

	Register my congrats on adhering to that attitude.. if they ever give
up on it, their products will never be as good of quality.

>They may require GCC to compile the OS sources before they release it.

	I've heard that's a pretty good test of a compiler.. especially since
there appear to be no comprehensive test suites.  Its an expensive test to
grade though (you only notice when the OS behaves strangely).

>Also, porting of GCC may coincide with the addition of floating point
>hardware support for Coherent 4.1.

	The two together would be well worth the wait.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: DBMS package
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:19:01 GMT


Does anyone know of good dbms packages (multiple users) for Coherent?

t.

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: uploaded to raven: pax, rn, f2c
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:51:06 GMT
Keywords: raven pax rn f2c 

I have ported and uploaded the following to raven:

1) pax/tar/cpio.  This includes source and a 32-bit binary.  My tests show that
this 32-bit version works in cases where the 16-bit pax/tar/cpio included with
Coherent 4.0 fails.  Obviously, this 32-bit binary is only for Coherent 4.0.

2) rn version 4.4.4.1.  This is a port of the popular newsreader.  This program
is too big for Coherent 3.x so only 4.0 users can run it, unless someone wants
a big job in paring the code segment down by half.  Tested with Wnews 3.1. Gnu
make and sed may be required to recompile rn.

3) f2c for FORTRAN 77.  This is a public domain release from AT&T (see the 
license included for details).  This program is much too big for Coherent 3.x.
Gnu bison is required; gnu sed and make may also be required.  Library source
(for FORTRAN) is also included.

Please let me know if (when ;-) you find any bugs.  Send bug reports, fixes and
suggestions to me ASAP (especially pax/tar/cpio since we need it for backups!).

Harry
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