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From: jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: RE: Emmy Nominatations
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:54:07 GMT
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

In article <21JUL199207191187@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon) writes:

>(in references to Emmy nominations list...)
>Dont tell me that -> Cost of Living <- has TWO nominations?!
>Dont these people ever read r.a.s.c?

Actually, it's THREE.  Nothing for "Darmok" but three for "Cost of Living."

I for one am appalled!!

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf!  I knew him, Horatio.
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:37:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Jul28.132407.11654@wixer.cactus.org> raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz) writes:
>I hope like h*ll he doesn't send Alexander to a boarding school because
>that means that Alexander will be in _another_ episode!!!

>I'm hoping they just forget that Alexander exists... (yeah, that'll be the day)

Why not?  After all, they're doing it for Sela...  :-)
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Which episode was this??
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:46:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <l78rbmINN1qr@earth.cs.utexas.edu> efisch@cs.utexas.edu (Eric A. Fisch) writes:

>   Forgive my lack of placing plots with titles, but which episode had
>   Wesley put in command of a group of people working on some engineering
>   problem? (sounds like every episode, right ?!?) I remeber that members
>   of his team thought he was stupid and challenged his authority and he
>   couldn't deal with it. I tried looking through all of Tim's episode
>   synposis, but I couldn't find a thing.  

Penpals??

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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: tardis
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 20:32:34 GMT

In article <64763@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>wsthune@iastate.edu posts:
>
>>So if Guinan is a Time Lord, her TARDIS could well be the bar.
>
>And what was in place of the bar before Guinan joined the Enterprise?
>Or didn't 10 Forward *have* a bar before Guinan joined the Enterprise?
>

Well, the bar was disguised as a computer console for a while,
but then the chameleon circuit broke and after being Police
Box shaped for a bit it turned into a bar.
I'm not sure there was even a 10 Forward before Guinan joined
the Enterprise in all honesty.  Presumably if there was there
was a bar. 

-- 
"So you're choosing to run from your own people in a rackety old TARDIS?"
		     D  O  C  T  O  R     W  H  O
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From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Friendly little poker games?
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:42:08 GMT
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul24.165148.8544@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, sabat@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>> Info on Friday night poker games deleted
> 
> What I would like to know is since they don't use money, what are they playing
> for?  Playing without something of value is booorrriinng!
> 
> Ted

This post calls to my mind another question about the 24th century:

"What kind of compensation do you get for serving in Starfleet?"
In one of the episodes ("Neutral Zone", I think, where the crew finds some 21st
century people cryogenically frozen in a space ship) Picard says outright that
they don't use currency any more.  So what do they use?

My own guess (MHO) would be that Starfleet pays in energy credits.  You collect
credits, which can then be used to create food or other replicated matter; or
used to run programs in the holodeck, etc.

Thus the chips they use would have a certain "cost", that would add the proper
incentive to winning at poker!

-- 
Gabor Brach.        "We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill
Victoria, B. C.      We come in peace, shoot to kill, men."
(Lotus-land)                     _Star Trekking_
                                    The Firm
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:20:50 GMT
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul30.093311.1923@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters) writes:
>>>>In article <7123569413051@neptune.mcs.anl.gov>, deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov 
>>>>(Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer) writes...
>>> 
>>>>>For one thing, I think the new First Officer should be a woman.  All of
>>>>>the senior officers in *Command* are male:  Picard, Riker, Data, Geordi, and
>>>>>Worf.  The only 2 female bridge officers are a counselor and a doctor:  both
>>>>>are in "caring" roles.  Don't get me wrong; I think that Dr. Crusher and Troi
>>>>>are fine characters, but I would like to see a woman in a command role.  
>>>>>After
>>>>>all, this is the 24th century; with all their talk about equality, don't you
>>>>>think the bridge crew should reflect those values?
> 
> Ok, having a woman as a high ranking member of the bridge crew is
> fine - BUT NOT SHELBY!!
>   OK, she is very bright, and had loads of good ideas about beating
> the Borg, but as Riker puts it "she needs supervision".  She certainly 
> didn't know how to respond to Riker, and spent most of her time
> ignoring his orders (even though they were technically the same
> rank, Riker would outrank her as First Officer of the Enterprise).
> Plus she is annoying, and always confrontational, and I was glad
> to see the back of her after BOBW II.
> 
> pete j suters ---- bath university ---- email: p.j.suters@uk.ac.swurcc 

I don't know.  Seems to me that Shelby (is her first name *really* April) is a
more rounded character than Riker was when we first met him.  Sure she ignored
Riker in BOBW I, but then she was operating under the assumption that she
should be filling the job he was in.  Also, I think sh assimilated the lessons
he gave her well.  The Enterprise bridge crew are becoming a little too
comfortable with each other.  That's great for them, and for history perhaps,
but I'd say that is what gives the writers such a hard time coming up with
believable stories.  Shelby as first officer would shake things up a bit as
every one gets used to her.

>   Having Shelby as the new first officer would create a negative
> image of high ranking women in Starfleet, and they could do much
> better than her.


Not so!  That would be a factor of the writing, not the character as we know it
at present.  Of course considering the way they have treated some of the women
on the show, you may have a (small) point.

JMHO

-- 
Gabor Brach.        "We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill
Victoria, B. C.      We come in peace, shoot to kill, men."
(Lotus-land)                     _Star Trekking_
                                    The Firm
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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf! I knew him, Horatio.
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:37:32 GMT

tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>Worf is a "sensitive" Klingon.

Naaah.  Worf is a "kinder, gentler" Klingon. :)

The only place you get to see Worf kick butt I think is in the comic books...

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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST VI:TUC -- why the Romulan?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:31:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Jul29.183702.2719@colorado.edu> pinkney@spot.Colorado.EDU (PINKNEY PAUL CHRISTIAN) writes:
>My brother and I are confused.  Just why the h*ll was that Romulan
>ambassador in ST VI?  I thought the Federation and the Romulans were
>at war.  His presence in the movie doesn't seem to make any sense.

I don't have any answers for that but I do have some information.  Nicholas
Meyer was interviewed for the Dec-Jan Issue of "Star Trek - The Official Fan
Club" magazine and he said (and I quote):

>
>One last thing...'member the seen where Spock requests McCoy's help
>with the torpedoe?  McCoy should've said, "Damn it Spock, I'm a doctor,
>not a rocket scientist!!"  (...or some such...)
>
>Cheers,
> Paul Pinkney                |                 | "To enjoy the flavor of life,

Perhaps they figured we would expect something like that and decided to 
throw us a curve.  :-)

Marg
aka Elvira
From: pauls@tcom.stc.co.uk (Paul Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Take 2 aspirin & call me in......
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:27:00 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.

In article <1992Jul29.081821.4767@gw.wmich.edu> adamsf@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>
>Two weeks ago I saw an episode (cannot remember the name) where we found
>an elderly couple left on a destroyed planet.....
>
>What is bugging me is the music that gave Troi such a headache. What was
>the significance of the music?  The dear old all-powerful fellow left the
>bridge, came back and said something like, "She is all right now." So???
>Why was that particular music from the planet's surface bothering her?

Episode was called The Survivors.

Kevin, the Dauwd (sp) used the music from the musical box to block Troi's
empathic senses to prevent her from seeing his deception. He removed the music
when his true identity was revealed.

PSS 
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From: lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Vulcans on ST:TNG
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:14:59 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Jul31.152448.15180@tamsun.tamu.edu> joses@cs.tamu.edu (Batman the Destroyer) writes:
>
>Has anybody noticed that Vulcans are not as prevalent in ST:TNG as
>in ST:TOS?
>Out of all the episodes of ST:TNG, only the Unification I & II and
>the episode when Sarek make the crew act weird have Vulcans on them.
>
>Have the Vulcans gone on some type of sabatical or what? Do they not
>wish to associate with the Federation as much anymore?
MAybe they are on there own ship because most of them have a hard time with
being with emotional lifeforms
>
>
>--
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>	joses@cs.tamu.edu	|	 masses"  - Karl Marx
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Subject: Re: Where they go in TUC--SPOILER!
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:26:12 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Jul20.154732.5684@iscsvax.uni.edu>, althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> WARNING!!!!!  This entry contains a SPOILER in disguise!  If you haven't seen
> STVI:TUC yet, don't spoil your fun by reading this!
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> Okay, for everyone who has the courage to bypass the spoiler warning...I'm
> sorry if you're disappointed, but this is really a question to satisfy my
> curiosity.
> 
> Was it blatently obvious to *everyone* in the theatres that Kirk's last
> "official" line in TUC is a direction for the heading "Second star on the
> right...and straight on 'til morning."  This heading would take them, of
> course, to the legendary home of Peter Pan--NeverNeverLand.
> 
> Observations?  Comments?  Is this a clue to the fate of the NC1701-A and her
> crew?  What d'ya think?

It means that Kirk was making a joke.

In addition, it was a tip of the hat to the fans, saying that they wanted
one final trip in this "NeverNeverland" that we call Star Trek, a land which
is completely fantasy and where people don't overanalyze things.

> 
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From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST VI:TUC Musings/Comments (*SPOILERS?*)
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:37:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

In article <91740@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:
>
>Well, was she identified as such in STVI?  Certainly no one called her
>Janice or Commander Rand in the movie.  Usually (but not always)
>people are only listed by a character name in the credits if they are
>called that in the movie.  Grace Lee Whitney was only listed as the
>ignominious `Woman in Cafeteria' or some such in STIII.  What was her
>screen credit in STIV? She did have a single speaking line in STIV.
>

Actually, I think she was "Communications Officer" or something like that.

h.

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From: kmrc@ellis.uchicago.edu (Melanie A. Miller)
Subject: Re: Convention w/Brent, DS9 info, etc.
Reply-To: kmrc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:34:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul13.234701.25673@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>  - James Doohan *is* supposed to at least be in a TNG episode this upcoming
>    season.  And not as an old(er) guy, either.  The announcer was very unclear
>    about this, but either in TNG or in STVII, Scotty gets brought forward in
>    time and stranded there, then becoming a regular on either TNG or DS9.
>    This, of course, depends on contract negotiations, but James Doohan is
>    apparently excited about the idea.

I ain't holding my breath--good news like this always seems to
disappear in the daylight.

But if it was for real. . .

COOL!

MAM
Hey, I like Scottish accents. . .so sue me. . .
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From: jan@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Jan Parcel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Picard Family's Accent (was Sirtis's English accent)
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:45:26 GMT
Reply-To: jan@oas.olivetti.com
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

In article <BB6BoB1w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes:
>Actually, I can think of a few good reasons why Picard's family in
>"Reunion" had such good accents.
>
>1.  Perception.  We hear them talking English because the translator
>    module does a fine job of translation from French.  (In other
>    words, we really do hear them talking French, but the script is
>    translated for our benefit.

I heard Patrick Stewart speak at the Cow Palace, and he said the reason
Picard has a British accent is (roughly) "because Picard is an excellent 
linguist!  Haven't you heard how well he speaks Klingon?"  (He DID
smile when he said this!)

Then, for the rest of the family, I would assume you're right.

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From: Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Klingon Bumps - Explained!
Date: 25 Jul 92 08:33:05 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

>The Klingons do have bumps.  They always have.
>
>The low resolution TV of the 60's and 70's did not capture the
>bumps on their heads.  The dark skin part is easy.  The synthetic
>oil from their ships is what they are covered with.  Of course,
>there are dark skinned ones as well as light skinned ones, and
>some even sort of in the middle.  But most of the battle ready
>ones must stay in the ships (which always have a lot of "steam"
>or maybe atmospheric enhancements for battle readiness?) so they
>get the most dirty.
>
>So flame away...you will be assimilated.   [-|
>
>2 of 3...beaming up for a beer.
>
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Well there is another reason described in the incredible hard cover graphic
novel published by DC Comics called Star Trek Debt of Honor.  Its a pretty good
story and has excellent art work.  Go buy it.
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Klingon Home Planet
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:52:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.120907.4286@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, msears@mta.ca writes:
|> Ever since i can remeber the show starting i thought it was called Kitimar or
|> Kittimar...Just my thoughts!
|> 
|> -Mary

No, Kittemer (sp?) was where the treaty was signed between the Federation and the
Klingons.  Worf was born there (the Kittemer massacre) happened there.

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:40:57 GMT

Worf is NOT less agressive than other Klingons.  As a matter of fact his entire
character is based on him not wanting to lose his heritage.  In "New Ground" he
taught his son what it was to be Klingon.  I admit he does seem docile at times,but that is not his choice.  At all of the staff meetings that deal in 
military matters he always wants shields up and phasers ready.  He gets 
beaten up a lot because by the time Picard lets him go the enemy is so strong.
For example, Q, or the changling in an older episode.  Worf IS Klingon and 
anyone who follows his character would know this.  It was mentioned that he
gave up the throne (or something like that) to remain in Starfleet, when in
reality he did it to save the empire (forget not that honor is a warriors 
pride)!  Worf is Klingon, in "Heart of Glory" and Redemptions 1 and 2 he
proved this- anyone who says otherwise doesn't fully understand his conflict
and what he really is.  (In "The Drumhead" he shows us again what and who he is)Worf is one of the best characters because he continually struggles.  Not poor
Worf, but sweet Worf!!!

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From: pinkney@spot.Colorado.EDU (PINKNEY PAUL CHRISTIAN)
Subject: Re: Klingon home world
Keywords: Klingons
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:31:22 GMT

I've just joined this newsgroup, so I'm not completely sure if this
subject ever got resolved, but I've heard the Klingon home world 
called Klingus.  I wish I could remember where.  Also, for those of
you who've played nettrek, the Klingon home world is labelled "Klingus".

Paul
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From: rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Organization: Government Technology Services, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>
>2) When the mention of Romulan Ale being illegal pops up Kirk says they are
>1000 light-years from Starfleet HQ. How long is this movie (their perspective)
>anyway? Even at Warp 10 it would take a full year to get 1000 ly and I doubt
>they were going that fast!

YATI, or simple exageratio. How many times have you heard somebody say
something like "We're a hundred miles from anywhere!" when they obviously are 
not?

>
>3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards.
>Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law of
>momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.

Blood spurting from the wound, maybe. Makes a good propellent. We don't know
what Klingon blood pressure is. Maybe it's very high and their blood has a much
higher density than ours. Maybe it just looks cooler when somebody is jolted
after being shot.
>
>4) When playing the detective Spock mentioned that an ancestor of his or
>something to that extent once said something along the lines of, "When that
>which is impossible is eliminated, that which remains, however improbable,
>must be the truth". If I am not mistaken it was Sherlock Holmes (fictional?)
>who is given credit for this quote.

I thought it was obvious they were being humorous with literary allusions when
Spock had the line about "Only Nixon can go to China".
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