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From: alien@boi.hp.com (Tom von Alten)
Subject: Re: Is it possible to use a SCSI disk in a 9000/340/400 machine ?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:36:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) wrote:
: Hello HP-world,
: 
: currently our group is using (amongst others) a diskless cluster of 340/400
: machines, which are served by one machine. Now, is it possible to take one of
: those out of the cluster and install a SCSI disk in it in one of those 340s,
: effectively turning it into a standalone workstation ?

We fixed up a 370 here with a 98658A DIO-1 SCSI interface board.  I'm not
100% certain if that board would also work with a 340; the two branches of
the s300 evolution are slightly different in the back.
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                        Hewlett-Packard Disk Memory Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mcsavaney_d@apollo.hp.com (#David McSavaney)
Subject: Obtaining HP info without having a salesrep call
Originator: mcsavaney_d@macsav
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:01:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

Of course, what I _should_ have done was to say:

HP has lots of new stuff - this is what you may want to do
to find out more.

From a fax machine, lift the handset and call  1 208 344 4809 

Listen to the message first then press 3 for Section 3.
Listen to the message and press 2 to receive the short index.

Follow the instructions and within seconds the requested
data will arrive at your fax machine.

HP's FIRST FAX service lists data on the new workstations as well
as info on PC's, printers, parts guides as well as some
config guides for large systems.
                                            
If you have used this service before, the new workstation
material is numbered 2276 to 2280, with no piece over 4 pages long.

I would advise requesting the indexes first if this will be the first
time you use this service.

Best wishes     

Dave McSavaney

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From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:44:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Strange Swap...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

I wrote swapinfo...

> What really puzzles me is that "hold" swap space increased to ~1500MB
> immeadiatly after adding the disk.

Actually what you have is a large negative hold space, which is silly.
Since it's computed as a difference between other values, it means the
other values were out of whack.  In particular the second dev has a
ridiculously high USED value, out of balance with the first volume.
This is a clue.

I suspect what you're seeing is a known problem found just a month or so
ago.  The kernel has an overall cap on usable swap space -- but I can't
recall the name of the configurable value.  Swapinfo doesn't know about
this cap, and it never showed up in testing.  When the cap is hit, extra
swap space on the system isn't considered FREE by the swap manager in
the kernel, so it falls into the USED column, which then perverts the
values of hold space USED and FREE.  The tot line is probably correct,
except you can't in fact use all the AVAIL space unless you reconfigure
the kernel.
From: sjmz@otter.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:50:05 GMT
Subject: Re: hp9133 disk drive
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

The other switchbank (4 dip switches) sets the HP-IB address.  The three ones
marked (?) 4, 2, 1 correspond to those powers of 2.  The fourth one should
be left alone, in the "off" position... or was it in the "on" position!?
It probably does something Entirely Undocumented (say, swapping the bytes of
every 13th block when there's an R in the month :-)

Don't throw that drive away --- I keep two attached to my HP workstations
for reading and writing PC and Macintosh compatible disks, with the HP
standard futilities doscp, dosls, and their ilk.  Also works nicely for
Macintosh using HP's stock tar and suntar on the Mac.

Cheers, Stefek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Andy Kniveton)
Subject: HP 9000/857 + HP XTERMS
Organization: Motorola LTD
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:52:52 GMT

Hi,

Any one what the produce number / order code to enable our HP Xterms to load
HP-VUE 3.0 off our new HP 9000/857, I remember a posting regarding something to
run VUE local on the xterm.

Could I install the Xterm stuff from our 700's on the 800, I'd rather not though
as the 9000/857 is running HP-UX 9.0 and the 700's are running 8.07.

Any ideas ?

Andy.
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From: rohit@NeoSoft.com (Rohit Mehrotra)
Subject: HP's catalyst / developers program
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:41:44 GMT

Hello,

Does HP have a catalyst / developers program similar to SUN. I know that
DEC, Microsoft etc have it too.

If there is anything like this can someone please EMAIL me the phone number
etc, where I can get some more info on it.

Thanks

Rohit
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From: frc@oce.nl (Frank Coolen)
Subject: Problems getting real uid within HPDMS.
Originator: frc@oce-rd2
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:15:06 GMT


            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!Help wanted !!!!!!!!!!!!


We have about 100 HP ME10 CAD workstations, series 300,400 and 700. 
Those CAD computers are subdivide in many clusters.
The CAD application is ME10 and the database application is HPDMS which 
is integrated within ME10 and working on a relationel database 'Allbase/sql'.
All those CAD users can connect to the same database server. The database 
server is a HP9000/433, at the end of this year we will purchase a 
HP9000/720 with disk-array and replace the 433 with the 720.


************************************************************************
If a ME10 user enables HPDMS and connects to the database, the active 
user om the database server is the dummy user "medmgr", this is listed 
in allbase table SYSTEM.USER which is a pseudotable that contains a row 
for each user currently accessing the DBEnvironment.
So there is only one user active in the database and that's "Mr. medmgr",
but many times.
The databases administrator can never see which real user is active in
the database. This is often a problem when maintenance has to be done. 

Who has a solution for the following problems:

1. Which users (UID) are connect to the DNEnvironment.
2. The real PID on the database server from all users who are connected.
3. From which cluster client are they comming from.
************************************************************************

It does not matter if it's solved in HP-UX or SQL or HPDMS.


Thanks in advance.


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From: jrm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (John Morris)
Subject: Re: hp9133 disk drive
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:52:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

There is a rotary switch on the back of the 9133H which configures the 
the hard drive.  The size depends on the number of bytes per sector.
The standard is 256 bytes/sector and option 1 gives 1024 bytes /sector.
The option should be on the serial number tag on the back of the disc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
switch | # of vol's |  size (@256b/sect)  |  size (@1024b/sect)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
0           1            19.92 Mb                22.33 Mb
1           1            19.92 Mb                22.33 Mb
2           2             9.92 Mb                11.09 Mb
3           3             6.61 Mb                 7.37 Mb
4           4             4.49 Mb                 5.49 Mb
5           5             3.93 Mb                 4.34 Mb
6           6             3.27 Mb                 3.61 Mb
7           7             2.81 Mb                 3.09 Mb
8           8             2.45 Mb                 2.69 Mb
9           1            19.92 Mb                22.33 Mb
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
jrm
From: clement@arp.anu.edu.au (CJ Canon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Old HP Workstations
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:48:29 GMT
Organization: Centre for Information Science Research ANU
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.20.2

Hi. A few years back a friend of mine (who was a top HP salesman here
in Canberra) showed me a machine he'd brought home for the weekend. It
looked a lot (like very similar to) a portable sewing machine. It had
much the same sorta shape/styling etc as the IBM PS/2 model 75, ran
some version of unix and had an amber screen builtin.

What I'd like to know is,
	1) What is the name/model number of this machine?
	2) What version of the one true OS did it run?
	3) When were they made?
  and   4) if there's anyone in Oz who has one would they consider
	    letting me have it?

I'm finishing my second year of a Maths/Physics degree @ANU and will
be transferring to Brisbane next year. I don't have a machine to work
with, and I figure that this machine would be very interesting to use
and maintain, to say the least.

Thanks in advance,

CJ Canon.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rvs@vnp.com (Ronald V. Simmons)
Subject: Anyone compiled mh under HPUX 8.07?
Reply-To: ben@speech.com
Organization: VNP Software
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:54:05 GMT

Anyone out there compiled:

1) mh for the hp running HPUX 8.07? I am having some difficulty
getting the correct settings for conf/MH

2) c_news-2.May.92.tar.Z from archive ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk (138.253.42.173). 
When I try to compile it I get the following error message:

>>       cc -O  -I../include -I../relay -c active.fast.c
>> cc: "../include/libc.h", line 33: error 1584: Inconsistent type declaration: "um
>> ask".
>> *** Error code 1
>>
>> Stop.


Any hints would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Ben...

Please repsond to ben@vnp.com and ben@speech.com


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From: stanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Stan Bischof)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:54:34 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 7x5 1024x768 Graphics ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, devil@techunix.technion.ac.il (Gil Tene) writes:

>Anyone know if there are HP graphics cards that do 1024x768 on the
>new HP 9000/7x5 stations?

>I think I heard about such a configuration for the 715, but I am
>interested in using the same card on the 725/735. HP does not sell
>such a configuration, but I am wondering if you can just stick a
>715 1024x768 graphics card in a 735 and start up X...

According to the literature I have (I just use the beasts, don't build
them, so don't take this as anything official), looks like you are
out of luck since the only 1024x768 driver is integrated onto the
CPU board (i.e. it is a chip or chip set) and is NOT a plug-in board.

Stan Bischof
HPSR
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From: rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon)
Subject: Is it possible to use a SCSI disk in a 9000/340/400 machine ?
Originator: rvloon@triton.cv.ruu.nl
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:21:37 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

Hello HP-world,

currently our group is using (amongst others) a diskless cluster of 340/400
machines, which are served by one machine. Now, is it possible to take one of
those out of the cluster and install a SCSI disk in it in one of those 340s,
effectively turning it into a standalone workstation ? One of our
system-administrators thought that it was only possible to use HP-IB disks,
which are more expensive, making things less feasible.

Any opinions/real life experiences appreciated.

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From: bruno@fc.hp.com (Bruno Melli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: xdb accessing 'opaque' data structures
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:31:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.BxxA12.LBA
Organization: /STD/CoLL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

> So the debugger know what _MyWidgetRec structure looks like, it just
> can't figure out that typedef MyWidget.  It all very strange to me.

This is how it is supposed to work:

You have something like this in one file:

struct foo *p;

The compiler puts out debug info to the effect that p is a pointer
to a struct foo. We don't know what foo is yet, so the compiler emits
debug info for a "dummy" structure called foo.

In another file, you define foo:

struct foo { whatever..... };

At link time, /usr/bin/pxdb is supposed to redirect the pointer
in the debug info for p from the dummy structure foo to the real
structure foo.

Now the problem: 

There used to be a bug in the debug info generated by the
C compiler. Instead of calling the dummy structure "foo", the compiler
would call it <<NULL SYMBOL>> (or something like that).
With this, pxdb had no way of fixing the debug info for p as the matching
was done on a string compare basis.

My guess is that your program knows what the _MyWidgetRec in some
modules, but that in the module where you use p, the type is still 
opaque...
A potential workaround if that's the case is to include a definition for
_MyWidgetRec in the module where p is declared...

bruno.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dpayton@qcinet.Gwinnett.COM (Doug Payton)
Subject: Multiple phone numbers for a uucp site
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:44:38 GMT
Organization: Quality Consultants, Inc.

We have 3 phone numbers to use for our upstream mail/Usenet feed.  They
are listed in our 'Systems' file consecutively in the order they are to
be called:

gwinnett Any;1 ACU,g 2400 9999999 in:-BREAK-in: XXX word: YYY
gwinnett Any;1 ACU,g 2400 9999999 in:-BREAK-in: XXX word: YYY
gwinnett Any;1 ACU,g 2400 9999999 in:-BREAK-in: XXX word: YYY

where "9999999" is the phone number, "XXX" is the user id and "YYY" is
the password.  The phone numbers in our Systems file are all different.

The problem is this:  The first phone number is tried, and if it fails,
the other two are attempted, but never actually dialed because uucico
gets a "generic timeout" (that's the oh-so-helpful message from "Uutry
gwinnett -x9").

The log looks like this:

uucp gwinnett  (11/18-14:31:01,7090,0) FAILED (LOGIN FAILED)
uucp gwinnett  (11/18-14:31:12,7090,0) TIMEOUT (generic open)
uucp gwinnett  (11/18-14:31:22,7090,0) TIMEOUT (generic open)
uucp gwinnett  (11/18-14:31:32,7090,0) TIMEOUT (generic open)
uucp gwinnett  (11/18-14:31:32,7090,0) CONN FAILED (CAN'T ACCESS DEVICE)

The FAILED message comes from the actual dial attempt (line was busy),
but then 3 generic open errors.  I would have expected only 2.

Is uucico not closing the modem device while trying to open it for the
next numbers?  Is this a known bug?

Relevant info from "uname -a":
HP-UX qcinet A.08.02 E 9000/827 1764625181

Thanks to anyone who can help.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: Old HP Workstations
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:26:51 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <1ed3hdINNlv1@csc2.anu.edu.au> clement@arp.anu.edu.au (CJ Canon) writes:
>Hi. A few years back a friend of mine (who was a top HP salesman here
>in Canberra) showed me a machine he'd brought home for the weekend. It
>looked a lot (like very similar to) a portable sewing machine. It had
>much the same sorta shape/styling etc as the IBM PS/2 model 75, ran
>some version of unix and had an amber screen builtin.
>
>What I'd like to know is,
>	1) What is the name/model number of this machine?
>	2) What version of the one true OS did it run?
>	3) When were they made?
>  and   4) if there's anyone in Oz who has one would they consider
>	    letting me have it?
>
>I'm finishing my second year of a Maths/Physics degree @ANU and will
>be transferring to Brisbane next year. I don't have a machine to work
>with, and I figure that this machine would be very interesting to use
>and maintain, to say the least.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>CJ Canon.
>

It's an HP Integral PC, a 680x0 based all-in-one UNIX workstation
running HP-UX 3.x something (?), a good part of which is in PROM.
Except for the speed, it's the best workstation HP ever built (and
that's saying a lot)!  We have three of those beasts and use them
regularly for instrument control and data taking in the field.  A
PA-RISC based version with a bigger screen, X Windows instead of the
special windowing system used, and a color inkjet printer instead of the
built-in b/w one, would turn this into my dream machine.  Particularly if
the weigth and volume of the box could be made a bit smaller.

Bo
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From: nyenhuis@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (John Nyenhuis)
Subject: Re: Old HP Workstations
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:34:55 GMT

In article <1ed3hdINNlv1@csc2.anu.edu.au> clement@arp.anu.edu.au (CJ Canon) writes:
>Hi. A few years back a friend of mine (who was a top HP salesman here
>in Canberra) showed me a machine he'd brought home for the weekend. It
>looked a lot (like very similar to) a portable sewing machine. It had
>much the same sorta shape/styling etc as the IBM PS/2 model 75, ran
>some version of unix and had an amber screen builtin.
>
>What I'd like to know is,
>	1) What is the name/model number of this machine?
        
           Apparently the HP Integral Personal Computer. Number is 9807,
     I believe. This has 512x 255 EL display, 512K of built-in RAM,
     and UNIX on ROM. Also, there is internal 710K floppy drive and
     built-in Thinkjet printer. Micro is a MC68000 at 8 MHz.

     An HP-IB interface is built-in. Serial interface, more memory
     etc. can be plugged into the two expansion slots.

      A hard drive (eg 9133L) can be connected to the HP-IB interface.

>	2) What version of the one true OS did it run?

      Early versions ran HP-UX 1.0; this was later upgraded to HP-UX 5.0.
       (Unix in a a plug-in ROM, so upgrade is easy).

>	3) When were they made?

      Started in 1985 and they were discontinued sometime in the late
      80's.

>  and   4) if there's anyone in Oz who has one would they consider
>	    letting me have it?

      I have some to sell. Anyone interested? Unfortunately, delivery
      to Australia will be a problem. :=)

       Gidday! 

     John

John Nyenhuis   Purdue University  School of Electrical Engineering
West Lafayette IN 47907   (317)494-3524     nyenhuis@ecn.purdue.edu
From: hugh@ (Hugh Mahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Wanted: simple editor
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:46:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.Bxx54r.9sw
Reply-To: hpcnd.cnd.hp.com
Organization: Network and System Management Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jaap Romers (jaap@cs.ruu.nl) wrote:
: 
: Hi,
: 
: For one of our users I'm looking for an easy to use editor.
: 
: I already tried and compiled xedit. It looks OK, but I was
: wondering if somebody on the net could give some other pointers.
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: Jaap


If you have HP-UX version 8.07 or later, try 'vuepad', an X-Windows based 
simple to use editor.  If this is not available to you, try "ee" ("easy 
editor"), available via anonymous ftp from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu 
(128.255.18.10) in the package ee.tar.Z.  It works with terminals and 
terminal emulators. 

        Hugh Mahon

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: olsenc@carson.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen)
Subject: finding a program similar to "cu"
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:58:48 GMT

The command "cu" is not supported on diskless clients.  Is there
any tools that have similar features that I could use?

The program cannot conform to any special protocols like xmodem.

-Clint
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.aix
From: dlj@fc.hp.com
 (Dave Jobusch)
Subject: Re: weird interaction between AIX and HP-UX nfs
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:17:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Todd C. Miller (millert@nordsieck.cs.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: We have a lab that includes several rs6000's with home directories
: nfs-mounted from a machine running hp-ux 8.07.  Whenever someone who
: is in more that 7 groups tries to log in (or I try to su to the person)
: They get the following error:
: NFS lookup failed for server nag: RPC: Authentication error
: 3004-614 Unable to change directory to "/home/staff/username".
: 	You are in "/" instead.


	The HP-UX machines are to blame here.

	HP-UX nfs rpc does not handle more than 8 groups in releases
	before 9.0, as NGRPS (see rpc/auth_unix.h) was 8.  The rpc
	authentication barfs when it runs into a user who is a member
	of more than NGRPS groups.

	In HP-UX 9.0, NGRPS has been changed to 16.

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