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From: ede@porter.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:04:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.132519.8155@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com> heiser@TDWR.ED.RAY.COM (Bill Heiser) writes:
>What a CROCK!  That kind of behavior is totally inexcusable.  Here they
>are, rushing to get their donut fix, driving illegally, and they hassle
>someone else.  Talk about double standards!!!

If you want to talk double standards, these folks can legally kill
someone without a trial.

I don't see why their speeding bothers you.  Do you get upset because
you don't have the root password to world.std.com?  Having it would
allow you to do things that you can't currently do.  Being a cop allow
you to do things that most motorists can't do.

C'mon guys, being a cop ain't all that fun of a job.  Writing tickets
to massaholic drivers has gotta get dull after a while.  When you're
not handing out tickets to nice folks like us, you're dealing with
people who could be drunk, high, violent, dismembered, or dead.  It's
not like they're running the info booth at Disneyland or piloting the
Love Boat.  So, when their alotted time comes to take a break, and
they want to get to the donut shop quickly, just stay out of their
way.  What's the big deal?

  Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
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From: heiser@TDWR.ED.RAY.COM (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:26:14 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Raytheon Company, Equipment Division

In article <JPT.92Dec30152510@telecaster.think.com> jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor) writes:
>
>Long ago when I took drivers ed in Mass, the state law read that police
>vehicles could only exceed the speed limit if they were on "emergency
>service".  

Aren't theoretical rules wonderful!

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From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 13:46:31 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: watts.sqa.stratus.com

In article <C03DA3.nB@tegra.com>, vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail) writes:
> 
>    Well, let's see, there are local police, MDC police, state police,
>    registry police.  You don't see as many registry police
>    since I believe they are being slowly wittled out.
> 
> No, there are State Police only since the three forces were combined a
> year or two ago.  I still see the differently marked cars but they are
> technically the same now.
> 

Thanks!  I knew there had been some change, but I haven't 
followed it all that closely.  I was going by the types
of cars I've seen.

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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: fmrco!msommer@uunet.uu.net (Mark Sommer)
Subject: Home Alarm Systems
Organization: Fidelity Management & Research Co.
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:17:18 GMT

We bought a house this summer equipped with an alarm system from
American Alarm. At first, this seemed fortuitous. Now we realize the
system is a money pit, and the company specializes in ripoffs. Not
only do we pay them a large monthly fee so that they'll call the
police in the unlikely event that someone tries to break in, we have
been billed for an endless stream of service calls. First they want
money to set up an account and introduce us to the system. Then they
want money to check out the cause of a false smoke alarm. Next they
want money to clean the smoke alarms (the cause of the false alarm).
Last night, our alarm went off at midnight. The company employee who
works at the switchboard couldn't answer any of our questions; instead
he sent out a service rep today. The service rep explained what had
happened, replaced the battery, worn down by the false alarm, and
charged us $80 ($30 for the battery, $30 for labor, $20 as a "trip"
fee, despite the fact that the alarm company office is at the end of
our block).

Any advice from alarm owners out there?

mark sommer
--
Mark Sommer
Fidelity Management and Research


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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: ne.general,misc.kids
Subject: What to do with 12 yr olds in Boston
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:58:18 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: I.E.C.C.

Next month we will have the pleasant company of twin twelve-year old
nieces for five days.  Not having been 12 for a while, and never, to the
best of my recollection, having been a 12 year old girl, I'm a little
short of ideas for things to do.  There are some obvious things: Freedom
Trail, clothes shopping, movies, etc.

They live in suburban Savannah and will be going skiing when the rest of
the family catches up with them, so ideas that take advantage of being in
the city (we live in Harvard Square) are particularly appreciated, as
would be ideas of clothing stores that would be different from the mall
chain places they've got at home.

TIA,
-- 
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869
johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl
"Time is Money!  Steal some today!"
From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: ne.personals?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 08:47:53 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>It doesn't exist. If it did exist, also, someone might want to run a
>local "anonymous" server.
>  The deal with starting an Internet newsgroup is that you post a
>request for discussion all over, wait till the flame wars die down,
>then do a CFV (call for votes) and get someone to count them. There
>are some details to be followed....the full procedure gets posted in
>news.announce.newusers and news.answers under the heading "How to
>Create a New Newsgroup."

That's true for the "Big Five" (rec, talk, misc, news and comp).  But not
true for the other groups.  In 'alt' you discuss the creation in alt.config,
and if you arn't flamed too bad, then you create a group (or don't discuss
it at all... alt is the definition of chaos).

>  The kicker is, for international groups the yes's have to exceed the
>no's by 100 votes.  Are the rules different for local groups?
>I can't recall ever seeing a "how to create a 'ne' newsgroup"

I've never seen any rules for 'ne' groups.  So I guess we are on our own.

I'd suggest discussing it for a few weeks in ne.general.  We can decide
if we want a formal vote, a straw poll, or just a show of "hands".  If
it's decided that we want to create a new 'ne' group, then we just send
a newgroup message out.  We should then also inform one of the "official"
keepers of the lists that the new group is real (not just some flako who has
figured out the correct protocol).

Of course, we will probably spend 1/2 of the time debating over the correct
procedure.  :-)

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From: th@isr.harvard.edu (Todd Heatherton)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Looking for info on a rare (?) book...
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:11:20 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <MSALETNI.92Dec28163056@jade.tufts.edu> msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik) writes:
>For Christmas, one of the gifts I received was Richard Bachman's
>"Thinner."  This is the original book club hardback, in good
>condition.  It contains a photo of Stephen King's neighbor, posing as
>Bachman, and the dedication to his 'fake' wife.  This is the real
>thing, not any of the "King writing as Bachman" reprints.
>
>What I'm curious about is how much this book is worth.  Any ideas?

The book is probably not worth very much.  There were some 30,000 copies
printed for the first edition of Bachman, but this was expanded to some
300,000 when it was revealed that Bachman was really King.  As of a few
years ago, you could pick one of these up for little more than original
price.  I'm not sure if the value has gone up or not.  There is a book
called the Stephen King Companion that contains information about
the publishing history of King's books.  One more thing you might
consider is that book club editions are really just copies of the
book and not worth as much as the "first editions" from the original
publisher.  I think there is now a book club reprinting the earlier
King books, including Thinner.  I do not think that these are worth
money.  You may wish to phone a bookstore that specializes in 
Stephen King (yes, they exist!)

Hope that helps, Todd
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: ede@porter.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.132738.8490@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com> heiser@TDWR.ED.RAY.COM (Bill Heiser) writes:
>Isn't there something (theoretically) called "citizens arrest"?  Would
>that (theoretically) work in this situation?  i.e. you report the cop
>has having been speeding, etc.,etc.

Citizen arrest can only be made for felonies.  Speeding is generally
a misdemeanor.  Unless the guy was going 100+ mph and you tried to get him
for attempted vehicular homicide...

  Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:34:50 GMT



In article <1hsrt9INN7tl@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:

   In article <RG.92Dec25185605@nymph.msel.unh.edu>, rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez) writes:
   > 
   > I've seen at least statewide cops with apparently three different types of
   > jurisdiction; can anyone shed some light on this to a country bumpkin who
   > moved down from NH?

   Well, let's see, there are local police, MDC police, state police,
   registry police.  You don't see as many registry police
   since I believe they are being slowly wittled out.

No, there are State Police only since the three forces were combined a
year or two ago.  I still see the differently marked cars but they are
technically the same now.


   > Finally, I heard that Beantown Harley pigs were using lidar guns in one of the
   > downtown tunnels at 10pm the other night, and that there was a whole line of
   > cars pulled over just past the end.. anyone else seen instances of these Evil
   > and Unwholesome devices in use?

   First of all, what's a Beantown Harley pig and second what's
   a lidar gun?


Boston motorcycle policeman.  LIDAR is laser radar, using a laser beam
to measure your speed instead of microwave radio.


jv

Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: ne.personals?
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: Software Tool & Die
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:17:27 GMT

In article referenced betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
<It doesn't exist. If it did exist, also, someone might want to run a
>local "anonymous" server.

	I could probably set one up here somewhere if the group is
created and I can turn up the software.

<I can't recall ever seeing a "how to create a 'ne' newsgroup"

	There are no offical rules for "ne" or if there were, they are
lost in time.  All the ne groups I've seen created have been done
though a show of hands.

->Spike
From: boomer@sylsoft.com (Richard Akerboom)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Joisey was Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:53:55 GMT
Reply-To: boomer@sylsoft.com (Richard Akerboom)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Sylvan Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <BZS.92Dec23194745@world.std.com> (ne.general), bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
> 
[... stuff deleted ...]
> >
> >   - Dave Borden
> 
> I grew up in NYC, lemmee give you the inside scoop: they don't want
> to encourage people coming from Joisey at all :-)

As any one who grew up in New Jersey knows, the only people who say
"Joisey" are from New York, Brooklyn to be specific. Now they may
move up and out across the Hudson, but lets give credit where it is
due.

Rich

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From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:48:43 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Distribution: ne
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

In article <BZS.92Dec22154941@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>>That is - while "we", the T riders, also pay taxes, there are many
>>taxpayers who do not use the T, and would likely prefer the current
>>pay-to-use setup over increased taxes.
>
>But riding the T is a service to non-riders also, less traffic, less
>pollution, more parking, bringing customers into the downtown business
>district (for those who benefit from that), cutting gas consumption,
>etc.

I personally don't object to the subsidization of the T, for the purpose
of cutting down on automobile use, because I think that's an important
enough goal.  My objection is to also disallowing competing private service.
My counter to the objection raised that competing private service will take
revenue away from the T on the profitable lines while not bothering to run
the unprofitable ones is that the unprofitable T lines will require the same
subsidy in any case - the only difference is whether that subsidy will come
from T fares from profitable lines or from general tax revenues.  I say, take
it from general tax revenues, if that proves to be necessary, and allow the
competing lines to run.  We'll all have more options that way, without
having to counteract the policy goal of decreasing automobile usage.

There is a reason, on the other hand, for a government monopoly on subway
service, which is that we can't have everyone digging tunnels under the
city.

   - Dave Borden
     borden@m5.harvard.edu
From: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:10:35 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: classic.bbn.com

In article <1ht5hdINNedc@bigboote.WPI.EDU>,
 satan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew James Meyer) writes:

>The rule of thumb is go with the flow of traffic.  If you and everybody
>around you is doing 65, no one is going to get pulled over by a state
>cop who pulls up from behind you.

Well, that's usually true, but it isn't universal and it won't
help you in court.  If you're going over the limit (and admit it,
with whatever excuses tacked on) they can ticket you and you lose.

I have exactly one speeding ticket on my record in the last 15
years or so, and it happened when I was in the right-hand lane of
Rt 2, going 57 in a 45 zone, going SLOWER than the traffic in the
left lane.  Lord knows why the cop decided to ticket me.  Maybe I
was just easier to catch than the rest of the traffic which was
going faster. :-) Arguing as above did me no good.

>* satan@wpi *

Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com
From: satan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew James Meyer)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 17:24:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


>I have exactly one speeding ticket on my record in the last 15
>years or so, and it happened when I was in the right-hand lane of
>Rt 2, going 57 in a 45 zone, going SLOWER than the traffic in the
>left lane.  Lord knows why the cop decided to ticket me.  Maybe I
>was just easier to catch than the rest of the traffic which was
>going faster. :-) Arguing as above did me no good.
>
>Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com

well, bob, i don't disagree with anything you said (which i have 
since deleted) but as far as your story here goes...

this is gonna sound silly but...

If you are travelling at a speed slower than that of the flow of traffic
and there is a significant 'level of flow'  such that
people are forced to change lanes and pass you, you can be considered to be 
a traffic hazzard (much like the little ol' lady doing 38mph in the 
high speed lane of 495). Cops can ticket you for such things and since
you were exceeded the speed limit he could tickett you for that. 

Or the cop may just have been an asshole. Dunno.

the above may sound a little off base, and maybe it is. 


 

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Newsgroups: ne.general,ne.wanted
From: meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner)
Subject: Alternative to First Night
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:53:24 GMT

Given it is end of the year time again, does anybody have any
alternatives to First Night, particularly in the Acton/Concord (MA)
area?  My wife and I have a 5 year old daughter, and after a few bad
experiences at First Night (one year she got sick and threw up on
somebody's mink coat while we were trying to guide her to a sink), we
would like to look at alternatives.
--
Michael Meissner	email: meissner@osf.org		phone: 617-621-8861
Open Software Foundation, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, 02142

You are in a twisty little passage of standards, all conflicting.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: fhapgood@world.std.com (Fred Hapgood)
Subject: a stranding
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:16:48 GMT


Yesterday morning I was in Provincetown, wandering along the
front beach (the beach opening onto the harbor) when I saw a
couple of cops standing around an object.  When I got closer I
could see it was a stranded dolphin.

The creature was still alive, which was amazing considering that
it had probably been beached for six very cold hours.  Its tail
and flippers were frozen solid, I was told, and its skin was
sliced with lesions that might have been signs of frostbite or
perhaps sunburn.  The animal was shivering and shuddering.  Some
kind of tear-like exudate was streaming out of its eyes.  It
would suck in a big gulp of air and hold it, as though inhaling
and exhaling were so painful that the beast was trying to take as
few breaths as possible.

After a while some members of the stranding network arrived.
There was a consensus that the animal was as good as dead, but
the vets that would ordinarily be called upon to kill the animal
'humanely' were out of town.  A member of the network explained
to the handful of onlookers that killing humanely was a very
complicated problem: not just any vet was up to it.  Of course if
a quick end was the only issue the cops could have used their
service revolvers, but the sentiment of the stranders seemed to
be that death at the hand of a specially trained eco-sensitive
green-loving marine mammal specialist was 'humane' in ways that
death at the hand of a brute cop was not.  Besides, apparently
only certain people, somewhere up the Cape in some dolphin
protection bureaucracy, were empowered to make these decisions,
and nobody seemed to be able to reach them.

Some people suggested dragging the animal out to sea and letting
it die there, but the objection to this was that the dolphin
would die and wash up somewhere else, possibly less convenient of
access or something.  So it was left shivering and sighing on the
beach.  Somebody came and put a blanket on it.  A friend came by
who had just watched a friend die of AIDS and was so overcome by
the parallel she had to leave.  After a while I got too upset to
watch any longer and wandered off myself.

Later I went back.  Somebody had brought a raft of some kind; the
dolphin had been lifted onto it and was being walked along the
shore to a ramp down the beach, where a truck was waiting to
carry it off in search of a humane syringe.  Some water found its
way into the raft and the dolphin, feeling the water, suddenly
began to thrash about.  The stranders pulled the raft out
from under the animal and we stood around, watching as the
dolphin struggled to keep its blowhole above water with its
frozen flippers.  It would lie belly-up for a few minutes,
its flippers lifted to the sky like stubby arms, then thrash
and twist until it had the momentum to turn itself over, during
which it would suck in a breath.  I had to leave again.  Later I
heard that somehow it had made its way out into the harbor and
been lost to sight.


Newsgroups: ne.general,rec.arts.sf.misc
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Articles About Internet in Mass Media (Was Internet (Globe article))
Reply-To: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:09:01 GMT

richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
>Whilst visiting family over the Christmas weekend, I caught to my
>bemusement a human-interest article in the _Washington Post_ about how
>grandparents are using Internet to keep in touch with far-flung
>grandchildren via email.

My son, rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu, and I already correspond almost daily,
btw.

>As I looked across the table at my own grandparents, I pondered the
>following:  even with this wonderful technology, will grandchildren
>every really *write back* to their elders as often as it's wanted?

Of course not.  But I'm sure they will write more often than they do now.
Currently people either use the phone or ignore their elders, resulting in
a society much worse documented than, say, the Victorians, who often wrote
to each other twice a day.  At least we now have the chance of archiving
family correspondence.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Shine out, fair sun, with all your heat!  Black winter freezes to his seat...
The boneless fish close quaking lies...the stars in icicles arise!
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: rich@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Rich Snow)
Subject: Re: XmasLites (tm) Spotted
Organization: Adaptive Optics Associates
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:58:54 GMT

(William F Phillips) writes:
>
>Gaudy XmasLites have been spotted at the following locations in or near
>North Cambridge:
>
>	- Rice Street off Mass Ave;
>
>	- Cameron Ave between Mass Ave and Broadway Somerville;
>
>	- Mead Street off Cameron Ave (Somerville);
>

	o Lexington Street off Main St. near the Watertown/Waltham line
	  sports a few 'lit' domiciles...

-Rich
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