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From: sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sudha Neelakantan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:34:23 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


p.s.

That was a generalization from me and I must admit that I personally
know lots of exceptions

but I still contend that what i pointed out *is* the basic pt of the
whole issue.



Sudha

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 Sudha K. Neelakantan     < Clouds come floating into my life,  
       School of           \ no longer to carry rain or usher storm  
 Urban & Public Affairs     \ but to add color to my sunset sky.
    Carnegie Mellon          >    - Rabindranath Tagore -
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 08:59:21 EDT
From: <KPS1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: END OF GUJJU JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q : What is the difference between picnic and panic ?

A : 28 days
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NEVER MAKE ANYTHING SIMPLE AND EFFICIENT IF YOU CAN MAKE IT COMPLEX AND
WONDERFUL!!
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KPS1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                Penn State University

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A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
in God.
From: grx1473@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: VLSI DESIGN CONF. IN INDIA.
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:22:25 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON VLSI DESIGN IN INDIA.


VLSI DESIGN '93
BOMBAY, INDIA.
JANUARY 3-6, 1993.

The 6th International Conference on VLSI DESIGN will be held at the TAJ
INTERCONTINENTAL Hotel. Bombay, INDIA, Jan 3-6 1993. This conference is
sponsored by the VLSI Society of India (VSI) and the Dept. of Electronics
(Govt. of India.), in cooperation with the IEEE Computer Society's 
Technical Comittees on Design automation and VLSI, IEEE cicuits and 
systems Soc and ACM SIGDA.

The conference is a forum for researchers and designers to present and
discuss various aspects of VLSI design. 

TOPICS OF INTEREST:
CAE/CAD systems, High level synthesis, Logic synthesis, Fault modeling,
Test generation, Design for testability, layout, routing, logic simulation, 
circuit simulation, timing verification, Application specific devices,
microarchetecture, Regional/Global perspectives, VLSI algorithms and
Archetectures, fault tolerant computing, Economic issues, etc.


==========================================================================

BE TO SET UP SILICON WAFER UNIT
B'LORE - Bharat Electronics is setting up a 5-inch wafer fabrication
facility to manufacture state of the art integrated circuits in technical
collaboration with SGS Thomson Microelectronics of Singapore.


=========================================================================

India is making significant advances in VLSI design and fabrication.
I am interested in knowing about the research and development activities
in VLSI design in India. If anybody knows about any industries in India
which are working in this field, then please post a list on the net.
I would appreciate some discussion on this issue.


Thanks.
Girish Joshi.

email address:
	       grx1473@uoft02.utoledo.edu
	       girish@uoftcse.cse.utoledo.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dea@vccnorthd.its.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: Re: Sneek Preview
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:36:05 GMT

In article <12349@tamsun.tamu.edu> chunduri@eemips.tamu.edu (Fiction) writes:
>
>
>Howdy,
>
>
>I have just come from the sneek preview of the movie
>
>	CITY OF JOY
>
> *ing etc etc....
>
> I notice that compared to the book the movie is on a lighter
>
> vein. The performances by Om Puri and Shabana Azmi are excellent.
>
> Another interesting actor was Art mallik. If I remenber right
>
> he also had a lead role in the BBC serial The Jewel in The Crown.
>
>	I sure would like to see the netters tear it apart.\
>
>
>Srikar
>
>-- 
>	The bones have rattled
>		The Die have been rolled
>
>  	       	              -IK           


	I don't quite get what you mean by the movie being on a "lighter vein".
It does omit a lot of the details included in the book, but the serious grim mood
is always present. The book contained a lot of exaggerations which, I believe, 
were included to make it more "sensational". I think Roland Joffe did a good job
in adapting the story. 

	One may also note that the Polish priest of the novel is substituted by the
American doctor in the film. I think this was done to prevent any misinterpretation
of religious intentions. For instance it is more acceptable to the audience (and also
to the characters in the film) to receive the admonitions of Max  (remember the scene
in the workshop with Hasari's "new" rickshaw). The same dialogue coming from a 
catholic priest would have been interpreted totally differently and would have 
deflected attention to an extent that the real message would have been lost.

	Another point, does somebody know anything more about Art Malik ?
Is he in any way related with the movie critic Amita Malik ?

Anirban (dea@rpi.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: beasley@bestsd.sdsu.edu (Bev Beasley)
Subject: My Friend Needs Help
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:48:00 GMT



Greetings...I am posting this for a friend of mine who does not have
Net access.   If any one is able to help, please forward answers to my email.
Thanks in advance.
Wassalam-

Bev (beasley@bestsd.sdsu.edu)

***How does one get a green card (the BIG question)
***He is going to India in July and returns in late August.  And his VISA
   expires in September.  Any problems with renewing Visa?  (returns to U. S. 
   in August)
***Any low-cost fares to India (travelling from Texas, I believe) and any
   discounts for students?

I will forward suggestions, answers to him.  Thanks

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Re: Desperately trying to add perfume to hide the stink ...
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:52:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.003011.7646@usl.edu> axs2776@usl.edu (Subramanyam Arunkumar) writes:
>
>		IDEAL STUDENT
>		-------------
>
>	I am an ideal student
>	And what the hell,
>	I am proud of it
					AK(The Scorpio)
 
  ------stuff deleted---------------


       let me add some of the 'orrible mutilations too :-)

 
       Sing to the tune of "Hotel California" - The Eagles

  
         On a dark dingy, hostelroom,
         beedi smoke in my hair,
         warm smell of dirty clothes,
         yeah, my roomies sock pair.

         Up ahead in the distance,
         I saw a mobike light,
         It was the "mucha" bringing WILLS Navy Cut,
         Oh, what a lovely sight!
         
         so we headed to the egg carts,
         some guys wanted to gulp tea, 
         signed in the account book,
         t'friggin tab was on me!
 
     
Chorus: Welcome to the Hostel Paranoia,
        Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
        We're living a dog's life in the Hostel Paranoia 
        in this crazy phase (In this crazy phase)

   
        It was a sucker's bday treat, 
        and so we chumma piled on.
        where country and foreign meet.
        in the colourful liquid Zion.

        With headaches they woke up,
        puked in the corridor,
        Heard in between a burp,
        "I'll never drink anymore!"

  Chorus: Welcome to the Hostel paranoia
          Such a lovely place (Such a lovely Place)
          They're throwing up at the Hostel Paranoia
          what a slimy mess (what a slimy mess)
          of that gooey egg fry...

         Mess bills hit the ceiling,
         the damn exams were not nice.
         Memorandum bhejhenge yaar!
         said all of us in a trice.
 
        and the univ was still far away,
        wake up in the middle of the night,
        just to hear them bray, hey..

  Chorus: Welcome to the Hostel paranoia
          aren't we all in a daze? (aren't we all in a daze?)
          in that smoky haze.
          We're trying to make sense in the Hostel Paranoia
          by getting up late (kicking a roomate)
         
  Lead by...Joe Walsh :-) :-) 
         
         
      ------

Arun Simha (copyrighted :-))
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More on TN chief
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:32:42 GMT
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I suppose it is OK to sanction the deaths of few thousand Tamils by
'certain' politicians. After all, they are just voicless pawns caught up
in big & ugly geopolitical game orchestrated by mother goose.  I wonder
if all of
this would have happened if not for Indira Gandhi's ecxpansion plans
including the one she had for Sri Lanka
and Rajiv's folly. How ironic that both of their games finally got to
them at the end. Don't be surprised if more of your politicians fall
ill. Rao seems reasonable(after all as Indira' envoy to Sri Lanka, he
probably knows the situation) and
seeming to play fair. But, some politicians esp. in Tamil Nadu are still upto 
the old game. This isn't about corruption or an unemployment problem
where a union decides to get rid of the labor minister. It is about the
continual destruction of lives and property in Norteast Sri Lanka.
Tamils are going through hell subject daily to too many miseries.
There's a war going on, you know! I don't want any Indian politians to
treat the Tamils
as Gods. If they can't help solve the Tamil-Sinhala problem, then don't
play games with innocent lives. Half of them(esp. from north India)
don't even know what the hell is going.  I don't think even you know
what's going on.  Reading India Today, nobobody really will!  As for
Jeyalalitha,
who was alos an LTTE supporter, seems bent at starting at where Rajiv
left off. Good for her!.....but how does that translate for Sri Lankan
Tamils
in the affected areas? You don't need LTTE or some other force... I myself
would like to see her drop dead!   One less bad fly is little more
relief for the
true Tamils who have proven themselves to be worthy of their history.
Thousands have died atleast to this avail.
From: ighosh@vlsi.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: IMPACT OF ECONOMIC REFORMS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:39:33 GMT


 > > And also, the 4 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit, which is still growing at an alarming
 >                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > > rate. In fact, I remember reading that the % of the U.S. budget
 > > being used for debt service is growing very fast ( Right now, its 20+ %. But
 > > if deficit financing continues at the present rate, then by 1999, such
 >
 >
 >   I think it is 0.4 trillion (=400 billion).

 The total deficit is around 4 trillion (I read it in LA Times and it was also
 mentioned by the independent presidential candidate, H. Ross Perot when he
 was on TV).

 The annual budget deficit this year may be close to 400 billion.

 > -Bijal.

 Indraneel.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14036 soc.culture.nepal:190 soc.culture.pakistan:6284 soc.culture.bangladesh:2316
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.nepal,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: gay/lesbian issues in s asian community
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:18:53 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science

In article <16519@ulysses.att.com> kgh@ulysses.att.com (Krishna G. Hegde) writes:


			  Heterosexism and Gay/Lesbian Issues 
				    within the

				South Asian Community
------

Other resource for this issue include: Trikone, south asian lesbian gay assoc.
in San francisco[?]. They have their own magazine and also brought out a short
documentary called "Trikone [Triangle]"

Also, newly elected chair of National Gay Lesbian Task Force, Urvashi Vaid,
is south asian. Outlook magazine named her person of the year for 1991.

Grace Poore, is lesbian activist, and runs workshops around the country.[She is
very confrontational and very abrasive in her interactions with the men and
the caucasians in her audience.]




--
Naeem Mohaiemen  naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu  snm8696@oberlin  216-774-1993
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"This is a [war] between the pure and the impure"
	[Pakistani army officer, quoted in Maj. Rofiqul Islam's compilation]
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Re: A joke about mathematicians ( with due respects to them)
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:45:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.184030.22290@wuecl.wustl.edu> rr2@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran) writes:
>
>
>    This joke was told by one of our faculty members in class.
>
   ----stuff deleted-----

    Saw this in rec.humor. Dunno who posted it.

  "A physicist, an engineer and a mathematician were asked the same 
   question, 'What is 3 times 3?'
   The physicist said, "About ten"
   The engineer got his pocket calculator and pushed some buttons. After 
   a while, he said, "Nine"
   The mathematician went to the blackboard, wrote some stuff with a chalk
   for about an hour, and then said, "This problem has a solution and it
   is Unique!"

 Arun
From: mk49+@andrew.cmu.edu (Milind Kandlikar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: One less ignorant Indian girl
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:12:08 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...

>Yashodara Power sent me email about my INDIAN WOMEN message.
>If anyone remembers, she is the person who questioned the relevancy
>of sex to marriage. I made fun of that statement in a message of mine.
>She has clarified her stand on that issue. She said that she meant marriage
>shouldn't be the only means to have sex. She said that she believed that
>one needn't marry to have sex. So you don't have to marry just for satisfying
>your sexual urges.
> 
>I am not the only person who misunderstood her poorly worded message. However,
>I am sorry that I misunderstood her statement, and I am sending this
>message to the bboard to make sure no one uses her as an example to
>make a point about Indian girls' attitudes towards sex.



You will never be a MAN until you address women as WOMEN and not as girls.
perhaps its OK, going by all your past postings you are still a BOY

Happy Growing Up.....
From: fpa@thedog.cis.ufl.edu (Francis Augustine)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H-1 visa query
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:16:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uflorida.34987
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Hi netters

I am posting this for my friend who is thinking of applying for a H-1
visa by himself. He would like to get suggestions and answers to the 
following questions from persons who have obtained H-1 under the new rules.
 
Responses may be sent directly to my friend at nangia@stat.ufl.edu

1. Details on the labour certification required for H-1. 
What form need to be filed with the department of labour ?
Is it necessary to advertise the post ?
If it needs to be advertised then the correct procedure to do so 

2. How much time does the labour certification and the H-1 visa takes ?


Information may pl.be sent to nangia@stat.ufl.edu or I can forward replies
sent to my account.

Thanks

Francis
From: bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Lets start a Controversial Topic
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:01:31 GMT


From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Lets start a controversial topic
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 03:50:24 GMT


>J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal) writes:

>>Mr Controversial writes-


>>:Hi Everybody,
>>:
>>:	I am a new reader.  I have got bored by reading so many articles on
>>:	arranged and love marraige. Let's start some new topic.
>>:	My suggestion would be
>>:
>>:	"How it would be if we accept hindi as the national language of India"

>
>"How would it be Mr Controversial, if we not only accept hindi as our national
>language but also circumcise all Indian males and force them to go to church 
>every sunday"
>	THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO MOSQUE

         [stuff deleted]
     
>Just try looking through my tunnel vision:-)

         [stuff deleted]

>If at all we need to give special benefits it should be to those
>who are trying to learn -English, Japanese or German. I'll let U guess why:-)


        And Italian and French and Spanish and.........


>Let us strive to make our nation a great economic power - not a fundamentalist
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>state with fanatical leaders. English, Japanese and German makes more sense
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to me.
>^^^^^


    Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito must be laughing in their graves!

    For a change, how about Swahili,Ingri,MachiPichi........... ?
                    
    (We can start new newsgroups for them too: Sridhar, Just Kiddin!)


   Balaji Kannan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shiv@rs.com (Shiv)
Subject: Looking for housemate in Mtn View, California
Keywords: 
 
Reply-To: shiv@rs.com
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:07:33 PDT

I am posting this for a friend. Pl do not reply to this account.

Looking for a housemate (non-smoker preferred) to share my 2-bedroom
2-bath apartment in Mountain View. The apartment is on California
Street (off San Antonio Road, near San Antonio Shopping Centre), and
is very close to Freeway 101 and Central Expressway.

Rent is $415 per month + 1/2 utilities
Deposit : $250

No pets please.
 
Apartment is available from 3rd May onwards. 
 
Contact Diwakar at (415) 949-0862(H) 
                   (415) 691-6329(W)
From: akux@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: wanted bridegroom
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:11:12 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <92098.093007SELD1015@HASARA11.BITNET>,
SELD1015@HASARA11.BITNET writes: 
> hi,
> I'm looking for a suitable bridegroom for my sister.
>  
> Age:          31
> Height        162
> weight        52
> Complexionwhitish
> Mothertongue  Hindi
> Job           bank-employee
> Address       magnoliahof 7
> 1112 GR
> Diemen
> the Netherlands
> Surname       Heera
> First name    Neeta
>  
> Bye
> asha
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: The Concept of Jivaatma and  Paramaatma in Hinduism and its relation tomodern science.
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:42:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16535
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


The crux of Hinduism is the liberation of the individual soul,
the Jivaatma, which then merges with the supreme self, the
paramaatma or the Almighty.

There have been different school of thoughts on this. Two principle
schools are Adi-Shankara's MONISM and Madhvaachaarya's DUALISM.

According to Shankara's monistic theory, there is nothing but
the supreme self that pervades this universe. The Jivaatma or
the individual soul is a mere projection or reflection of the
supreme self. Liberation of the Jivaatma is defined as the state
when the individual soul realizes its oneness with the supreme
self and discards everything else as MAYA or mere illusions.

According to Madhva, the Jivaatma and the paramaatma are seperate
entities and liberation is defined as the Jivaatma inhibiting the
abode of the supreme self called Brakma-loka(the world of brahman
or the supreme self).

But with the progress of modern science, especially in the field
of bio-chemistry and genetics, one asks: Has this concept of Jivaatma
and paramaatma reconciled with modern science.

Latest discovery on the bio-chemistry of the human brain is homing
in the notion that our human bodies are nothing but bio-chemical
entities(See latest papers published in CELL). As a result of this,
the concept of a soul inhibiting the human body is becoming moot.
These discoveries are also shaking the foundations of Western
Phsycology. Assuming that we are mere bio-chemical entities, products
of evolution from lower life forms over the aeons, we
can DISPENSE of with the concept of soul(See ILya Pregogene's ORDER
OUT OF CHAOS). 

But the million dollar question is whether modern science can
ever dispense of with the concept of the Supreme self or the
Paramaatma. 

The answer is NO and maybe never. If the initial nucleus, from
which the universe may have evolved can be designated as the
creator, or as the Hindu scriptures say, the MOOLA-KAARANA KARTA,
which in other words is the ROOT-CAUSE of this material universe,
then things fall into place. One may effectively postulate that
the Supreme self, endowed the universe with properties to evolve(the
properties of protons, electrons, elements compounds etc.etc.)
and then left the universe to take its own course and th evolve.
We are the products of this evolution. Thus the concept
of evolution(Darwin's theory) DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE CONCEPT
OF THE PARAMAATMA OR THE SUPREME SELF. 

This also falls in line with Adi-shankara's MONISM where everything
is attributed to the WILL of the creator.

Comments are welcome.

Sivaram
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From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sneek Preview
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com
Originator: samaddar@orion

chunduri@eemips.tamu.edu (Fiction) writes:

>I have just come from the sneek preview of the movie
>	CITY OF JOY

> Another interesting actor was Art mallik. If I remenber right
> he also had a lead role in the BBC serial The Jewel in The Crown.

He played the role of Hari Kumar. Incidentally, "Art" Mallick is
really Athar (?) Mallick, of Pakistani descent.

Sumitro