HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:44:53 GMT
Organization: Medieval England, Iowa

In article <1992Apr7.194558.12471@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.170420.5029@ccu.umanitoba.ca> browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown) writes:
>>So how about y'all?  Where is the solution to this dilemma?
>
>I don't know if there's any one definitive solution, but I think it's 
>important to remember that thinking is not the same as doing--certainly
>I've had thoughts about gently nibbling Pooh's neck, squeezing her
>shoulders with my hands and letting them slowly travel down her arms
>to her waist, pulling her against me as she felt my lips and my breath
>warm on the back of her neck, but that's not the same as doing it.

Eeeek!  Watch out for the hump, Trygve!!  And sorry about the
dandruff ...  and the scaly tail ...

>So, how to resolve it?  Don't worry about it--treat these thoughts as
>normal and natural; mention them if you feel you need to, 

Yeah, especially post them all over soc.singles ... you rascal. ;-)

>Trygve    (This post is brought to you by the letters 'P' and 'Z'
>           and by the isotope U-235.)

ERNIE!  What ARE you doing with your rubber ducky????

Pooh  (gee, this really IS almost better than the fantasy
       with the butterscotch sauce and the Ian Fleming novels ...)

      pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Date: 16 Apr 1992 15:45:09 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Apr16.151432.2537@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>In article <12456@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>It's a song called "Sensitive Newage Guys".  I forget who does this but
>>the song is hilarious.
>
>I've heard that one!  It *IS* funny....oh, who *does* do that?  


Christine Lavin.  I can't remember the name of the album.  She also has
a great one about eating cold pizza for breakfast.

Dawn



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: FA.TJM@forsythe.stanford.edu (thom mckean)
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:24:59 GMT

In article <BRUCE.92Apr10145309@suprenum.supr.scm.liv.ac.uk>,
bruce@supr.scm.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) writes:
>>>>>> On 8 Apr 92 02:50:18 GMT, pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @
>>the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) said:
>> I nominate Angelwing for the Soc.Singles.Fantasy.Goddess for
>> the male contingent.  Why, whenever she posts I can hear men
>> for thousands of miles around breaking into a sweat. :-)
>Oh, absolutely!  Definitely sweatworthy.  Or is it just the heat?
>(It's just become so hot here that I'm not wearing my winter coat.
>Must be Spring at last.)
>
Add my vote (and I think it appropriate to now call her
"Angelschwing")

>> Pooh
>>       pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu
>
>Bruce (Just *don't* mention the election.  Please.)

Thom
fa.tjm@forsythe.stanford.edu
The Stanford University Center for the Study of Penmanship and Spelling
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do You Remember - early '60s edition
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

What about those candy cigarettes with the red tips?  Can you believe
that our mothers let us eat them?

Dawn
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: biesel@javelin.sim.es.com (Heiner Biesel)
Subject: Re: Men and women talking
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:33:10 GMT

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

>In article <gblj7k.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>>I find it interesting that the thread "Request : Dating advice from
>>women" has spawned so few flames.  I normally haunt soc.singles, and
>>it's been nice seeing so many "new" faces.  In the past, though, a
>>thread x-posted to all three newsgroups was a virtual guarantee of a
>>flame-war.  Any ideas on why we all started talking normally for once,
>>instead of screaming at each other?

>Because the lilacs are blooming, silly!  (Or is that: The lilacs are
>blooming silly?) 

Lilacs bloom silly only rarely; more often they bloom abundantly, even
excessively, occasionally redundantly, but silly requires a truly
unusual superabundance a floral appendages. Perhaps it's El Nino? Or,
just possibly you can blame it on the Bossa Nova (for fans of '60s trivia only).

More likely, it's the pineal gland kicking the entire hormonal machinery into
high gear in response to more sunlight. Hey, the days are getting longer,
time to make more babies, or at least practice! Thus spake the biological
imperative.

Regards,
       Heiner biesel@thrall.sim.es.com
       who is totally impervious to all blandishments of the opposite sex,
       except perhaps a nibble on the ear.
From: horwitz@psycha.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: personals
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:27:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: psycha.1992Apr13.152713.1
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I saw some postings regarding placing personals ads for dates. I was considering
doing this, but some friends talked me out of it. After speaking with them, my
perception is that any ladies who would reply would probably not be very
desirable. I was wondering if anyone out there on soc.singles has posted a
personals ad, or answered one. What are your experiences with this mode of 
finding dates? I am curious what the views of soc.singles readers are on this
topic and whether or not there are any books or other materials published which
discuss the success or lack thereof in personals ads.

Thanks,

Stan Horwitz
HORWITZ@PSYCHA.UPENN.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Children's books
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:28:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.195707.28021@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <fbkjk#d.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr2.140832.23609@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>> 
>>>John boy, you took it better then I thought you would. Actually 'I am' a
>>>dead ringer for pippy long stockings. I'm wearing peppermint pantyhose
>>>and my flaming red hair sticks straight out sideway's. 
>>
>>Gee!  Wow!  A blast from the past!  Anyone else read _Pippi Longstocking_
>>when they were a kid?
>
>So james, just get finished reading your kids bedtime stories? Is Pippi
>still popular?
>
>I can just see it, the little Tykes and james whad'a loverly sight.
>
>MaX
>
 
Picture (If you will), Pippy (me) reading the little pippy's the biography
of Wendy's (of hamburger fame). The 2 year old is playing trampoline
on my flaming ponytails, whilst the 4 year old is trying to sever my head
from my pert peppermint body. Max the only red german shepard in the
northern hemisphere continuously whining because he has'nt been out in
1.5 seconds and is worried that his shit may no longer stink. Maybe
I'm just looking at the world thru rose colored glasses.
 


Xref: sparky alt.sex:14657 soc.singles:11328
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: More helpful Hints
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:29:35 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Apr12.170702.29382@panix.com> pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>paul (even now having decided not to go out and search for early zucchini)

Now, remember, *never* buy more than one zucchini plant.  Even one will
supply too much zucchini for a household of four.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Mothers are inventors by necessity
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Sleeping Around While Dating (was Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH)
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:34:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr14.153450.2069
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <GRUND.92Apr14040356@pyrite.som.cwru.edu> grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:
>
>I'd have a hard time maintaining a romantic relationship (physical or
>otherwise) with a women who I knew was activity bonking some other man
                                                 ^^^^^^^

The term you are looking for is *boinking*, Vic.  BOINKING!  Bonking is
being hit over the head .....and I really can't see what the hang up would
be if your object of affection was hitting some other guy other the head.

>  Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Oh and now you want to talk about *strokes*!?!?  Jeepers!  What a wild man!

Angelwing - Some in 'n out and a little round and round, please.

*------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Angelwing       |"Two things are wanted by a true man, danger and*
* U. of Washington| play - therefore, he seeks woman as the most   *
*                 | dangerous toy."       Friedrich Nietzsche      *
*------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: More Disc on Romantic Songs
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:31:30 GMT

In article <92103.010528JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu> Joy Haftel <JKH107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Summer of 1989.  I was bummed out on love.  I was involved with
>two people simultaneously (bad idea, by the way), and both
>relationships were on their way out, and my emotional level was
>pretty low.  I had my radio station permanently set to a "light
>rock" station--having recently given up country music, and my
>brothers blaring Minor Threat, it was the most I felt I could take.

What's wrong with Minor Threat for breakup music?  
Actually, this is my first breakup where I didn't listen to
Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag and the Necros (and boy, what
a good idea...my record player was stuck in the closet and I couldn't
blast music in my vehicle since I crashed it two days before we
split up)...(oh yeah, take a look at the from line Joy...guess who
isn't engaged any more :-)

>The last thing I wanted to think about was love, but it was
>constantly being sung about on the radio.  So I started to listen
>to the lyrics, in the vain hope that they would be related to my
>situation and I could get some center on my feelings (another
>bad idea).

I had a similar incident my freshman-sophomore summer...after breaking
up, and driving an AM-only car, I started listening to, oh no, rap.
At first it was hideous (but better than conservative talk-show hosts).
Soon I could really understand the songs, and really got into it...
"Girl you know it's true"...and there is one particular woman who always
brings "Girl, ya got what I need...but you said he's just a friend..."
to mind.  

>"Bridge over Troubled Water" --Simon and Garfunkel

Somehow S+G, while wonderful in terms of musical quality,
has too many subtle connotations over a diverse number of events
in my life to be fully appreciated by my mind without defense 
mechanisms...can anyone else relate to this, or is it just me ?

The more mantric Dead can Dance songs are good for breakups...
and I can't think of a more inspiring song for hope in this
young spring than Enya's "Carribean Blue."  

-Tom

P.S.: finger me!


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:32:34 GMT

In article <kujk8vINNdpm@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.174732.8836@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>Trygve    (What's a atheist to do?)  
>
>
>Silly boy, I'm surprised I have to tell you this.  You offer to help them
>celebrate May Day, of course.  You *do* already have a cool helmet, don't
>you?  

Why, yes, I do have a helmet with horns, but I've got to admit that crowded
fields aren't really my thing--do you think it would be OK to substitute
crumbs left over from breakfast in bed for the fields of grain?

But, being something on an innocent in these matters, what would I be
supposed to do with the helmet?  Is this some safe sex technique that
I have been heretofore unfamilliar with?


>And May Day is even coming up.  (Wish I knew a guy with a helmet to help
>*me* celebrate.)

Hmmmm...does conjure up some interesting images--now, what to do with the
ribbons and crepe paper....

>Dawn

Trygve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 05:47:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr7.222544.26970@midway.uchicago.edu> pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
>Now announcing Dr. Poohth's Wild Sex Thang School of Inner Beauty
>and Lime Jello Maneuvers !!  (gee, this is sounding more and
>more drieuxistic ...)

Yergh! The return of Lime Jello!
I was SLimed just once, thankyouverymuch. Plenty for me. ';-)
r.
(ps- readers to s.s less than a couple of years will compleatly miss the
above reference.....)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: want-sex(women) < want-sex(men)
Originator: lnds@zeus.biochem.ualberta.ca
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:42:58 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Apr14111720@grover.cs.unc.edu>, martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

> I just ran into at least one counter-example [...]  A friend of mine in
> NYC[...]'s having more sex, on purpose, than a man not only would want 
> but *could possibly have*.

   Hi, Charles!  Could you ask these horny female friends of yours when
they *began* to feel so horny?  Was it before or after their first
orgasm, and before or after their first heterosexual experience?

   My theory is that men have a greater BUILT-IN sex drive than women.
(This doesn't prevent women from finding sex pleasurable and wanting to
repeat the experience.)  Meloney Cregor and Valerie Maslak have offered
themselves as counterexamples, but I would like to get some more data
points.

> So I still don't buy it.

   Why should you, if it's available free?

userisra@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca		Mark Israel
Instinctive grammatical moralizer.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Avoiding dating married people
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 11:45:51 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <4dtCPcC00iV1I7=5tO@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>I have a second line going into my study.  I keep the ringer on the
>phone disabled and it is hooked up to an answering machine.  When a
>woman I am dating asks for my number, this is the one she gets.
>
>So Michele, your paranoia is wasted.

Not really.  Wouldn't *you* get suspicious if you called someone when
you *knew* they were home, and you always got the answering machine?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Mothers are inventors by necessity
From: wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:50:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: soc.singles

In soc.singles, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
 >  Re:  Dan Fogelberg's romantic songs - yes he's great.  One of
 >  my favorites (I'll let you guess why) is "Illinois."

I have most of Dan Fogelberg's music and I'm also familiar with his
song "Illinois".  It would be hard for me to pick a favorite album of
his, but I'd have to say that "Home Free" is one of my favorites.  

 >  Richard Marx has my topper, with "Right Here Waiting."  There
 >  is a song with some FOND memories from the beginning of something
 >  still very much alive.

"Right Here Waiting" by Richard Marx is also one of my favorites!!  **SMILE**
He has done many other songs that I also like.  

Bill

From the land of "Versatile Bus Modular European Card Extensions For
Instrumentation Systems"
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: THE ELEMENTS OF SEDUCTION was (Re: Request : Dating advice from women)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:59:00 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1992Apr6.150735.27547@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.195219.18854@tigger.jvnc.net> richh@tigger.jvnc.net (RICHH) writes:
>>There are few things as thrilling or as challenging as seducing a woman
>>who absolutely loathes you.

Sounds like you probably have a *lot* of experience with women who loathe
you...

>Is anyone maybe getting an idea of why many women feel the need to protect
>themselves from men, not just the rapist, but the guy next door that seems
>oh so charming? 

*THIS* is charming????? 

Steve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mcregor@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Meloney Cregor)
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Illinois, Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:24:31 GMT

In article <j#vj=7g.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>>Fascinating.  I never found them so hard to manage that I needed to take 
>>a class.  They're quite well behaved.  Most of the time, they just sit
>>there and don't do anything.
>
>Really?  Well, even if they're not too hard for you to manage, I'd be
>glad to take the job over for you.....

Ah, Aahz, always looking for that superior hands-on experience.
From: anne@maxwell.concordia.ca (Anne Bennett)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: The "first" "move"
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: anne@maxwell.concordia.ca (Anne Bennett)

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) and stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
are discussing how to "award" recognition of making the First Move:
[edited for length!]
s> What if one person initiates the conversation and the other person
s> asks for the date?
k> 
k> I would probably give
k> the first move award to the person who asked for the date. It's
k> tougher to ask someone out that to start a conversation.
k> 
s> What if NOBODY can claim responsibility for the first move? 
k> 
k> There was a first move regardless of whether someone chooses to
k> "claim" it. Again, it probably should go to the person who asks the
k> other to an event that could be considered a "date."
k> 
s> We might have to consider the possibility of MUTUAL INTEREST? 
k> 
k> Of course we might. But mutual interest or not, someone has to move
k> first. 

Ideally, an interaction between two people, at least one of whom is
still trying to decide whether s/he is interested in the other, is
a series of *gradual* "escalations":
  approach a person
  look
  smile
  turn towards a person
  say something neutral ("nice weather!")
  say something personal (e.g. a compliment)
  touch casually (e.g. touch someone's arm to emphasize a point)
  suggest a further meeting
Ideally the two people take turns "escalating"; e.g. she arranges to
"happen to be" standing right next to him, he looks at her and catches
her eye, she takes the opportunity to smile at him, perhaps adding a 
comment about the weather, he compliments her earrings, she takes one
off to let him have a closer look, and touches his hand as she is
handing it to him, he mentions his general interest in art and the
existence of an art show at the local museum, she mentions that she had
been thinking of seeing it, he suggests they go together...  Who has
made the first move?  Who cares?  Each "move" was only a slight
escalation from the previous one, and both people have had a chance
to show each other that they are at least somewhat interested.

My point is that if the only thing that counts as a First Move is
a major escalation (skipping steps), for example, he asks her out
after she has only smiled at him, or worse, before she has even
realized he exists, then
  (1) First Moves are likely to be refused, because they
      happened too soon,
  (2) Since in our society men are more likely to forget to read
      body language and forge ahead with date requests, they 
      will credit themselves with more First Moves.

I think it's counterproductive to argue about which "moves"
require the most "courage" -- and are, I suppose, therefore
more commendable --, and more useful to learn to read other
people's interest, and take small steps instead of huge leaps.

-- 
Anne Bennett (acting in no official capacity whatsoever!)
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:50:42 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Organization: The Village Waterbed
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In  <1992Apr9.003159.23018@spool.cs.wisc.edu>  michaili@blondie.cs.wisc.edu (Afroditi Michailidi) writes:
> (NO, Larry, don't you *dare* make a pun!)
>
>                                              Afroditi

Now, *how* could I refuse a request from the goddess of love.  Except,
that's "Aphrodite".  So, is that a foriegn spelling, or a nickname
originating from the way you wear your hear, and, hmmm, well we all
know what "dight" means...

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:21:41 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

}Hey guys, what I keep hearing you all saying is that you think any
}woman who *doesn't* enjoy dressing up like a prostitute has some kind
}of problem.  Is *that* really a tolerant attitude?  

I don't think anyone has ever said that.  Maybe it would help this
discussion if you could take a few minutes to find and reproduce the
sections of previous postings that gave you this impression.

What I have been hearing people saying on this thread is that there
was NO indication that the woman in question had a problem with dressing
the way she did.  Again, perhaps you could try to show us a quote from
a posting that leads you to believe otherwise?

}As I said, what
}consenting adults choose to do is their own business, but if they choose
}not to do it, that's their own business too.  Sheesh.

That's good, but the real issue that other posters are taking you to task
for is the very question of whether or not the woman had a problem with
dressing the way she did.  You have said that it was "obvious" that she
didn't want to dress that way, but most other posters -- including the
man who was with her -- have stated the opposite.  Given that, it might
be worth your while to take a step back, look over this discussion, and
try to see why you made the conclusions that you did.

--James Preston

Newsgroups: soc.singles