From: yavor@acpub.duke.edu (Yavor B. Parashkevov)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: rock-debate
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:15:56 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <00963B80.97015CE0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Well, I'm new at this newsgroup stuff, so I trust you'll all bear with
>me.  Without question, Floyd and Zeppelin and Hendrix have to be considered
>among the best; the Doors, on the other hand, are overrated (though "The End"
>is without question one of my favorite songs).  Nobody has mentioned the
>band who is arguably responsible for the birth of heavy metal--i.e. Black
>Sabbath.

Yesssss!!!

Yea, man, finally someone mention Sabbath! What can I say, just listen
to their first album. Sleeping Village, Behind the Wall of Sleep...
Great tunes, rock-solid sound, the mood just crushes you. Wicked
World...  Personally, I think Sabotage is their greatest, also Sabbath
Bloody Sabbath, Never Say Die. Sure, it takes some time to get into
their music, but then it just becomes part of you. You breathe
Sabbath. 

>Their old stuff was truly innovative, and they really brought a 
>whole new mood to the rock scene.  I read a book by a sociologist from
>DePaul who claims that the debate concerning the fathers of metal comes
>down to Zeppelin and Sabbath, with the British preferring Sab and the
>Americans preferring Zep.  I guess I'm one of the Americans going with
>Sabbath; Zep is more talented, but the heavy, depressing sound that is
>definitive of true metal is definitely the work of Sabbath.  Not much of
>Zeppelin hits on this level, though Immigrant Song is a good metal
>forerunner.  By the way, I agree with the person that Zep III is possibly
>the best Zep album ever, though many people don't care much for this one.
>You've got to take a good look at Physical Graffiti too, though.  As for
>Sabbath, I really like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, though really everything
>with Ozzy is great, except perhaps for Never say Die, which one can 
>acquire a taste for if they try hard enough.  Are there any Sabbath lovers
>out there?  Let me know.  I'm also surprised that nobody has mentioned
>Deep Purple, a band who really hit the line between blues/metal/ and even
>some pseudo-classical stuff. 

Purple is great, too. I especially enjoy their live albums. Some
serious jamming there! The blues foundation really shows up. I don't
like their new stuff, though. Gillan is just not up to singing
anymore... :-(	And they seem to have run out of fresh ideas...

I wonder why so little attention is paid to one of their descendants -
Rainbow. I really love this band, they offer some very  vivacious
hard-rock. True, they have lots of cliche's, but Rising and Long
Live Rock'n'Roll with RJ Dio are very powerful.   


>I'm looking forward to seeing some Sabbath and Lizzy lovers crawl out
>of the woodwork.
>Until later, Eric.


Well, you got one.

By the way, what happened with ex-Sabbath vocal Tony Martin? I heard
he was supposed to come up with a solo album, but nothing's came out
so far (at least I'm not aware of anything).

See ya,

Yavor

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