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From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Bloodshot Question
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:43:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
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Does anybody know when was the first appeareance of Bloodshot in the RAI series.I also heard that he was coming out with his of Valiant Series.  Can somebody
tell me when it will be released.  I would also want to if someone wants to
sell there Bloodshot Promo Prism Card.

Dave

Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.misc:7526 rec.arts.comics.xbooks:2747
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Some Marvel & DC Multiverse ramblings (Rewrite)
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:31:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.

In article <1992Nov23.052933.27778@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>laws.  Particularly the New Universe one; Quasar's abilities didn't work (he

Should have been "didn't fail", of course.
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: "Vaporware" Comics That Condensed
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:54:00 GMT

How about comics which seemed to be vaporware but finally came out?  The
longest gap I know of was "Power Plays" which was close to a decade between
issues 2 and 3 (or was it 3 and 4?  whatever...).
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
		-- Steve Simmons, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us
From: lazarus@maico.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner #3
Date: 20 Nov 1992 23:42:32 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov19.180328.5860@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>	As I was reading through GG#3 in the local comics store, I too had
>to laugh out loud as I came to the end.  I was not, however, laughing at or
>with the comic, but with the writers' "suckering" of both DC and the people 
>who are going to buy this issue. When someone saying "Next!" at the end of an
>issue-long fight scene is the only  substantive dialogue in a comic, I think 
>it's a sign that the writers are just being lazy.  (The artists, however, did
>an admirable job, IMHO).

I don't think they were being lazy... remember, the writer's even have to
write in that stuff like who's doing what to who.  Trying to tell a story
without words would be really difficult, and with all the changes in the
battle (the fact that it see-sawed), all the nuances (the big guy throwing
an asteroid at Guy)... without all the snappy patter.  ("He is unable
to speak, and I simply had nothing to say." -- Weapon Omega, on another
silent fight scene in an issue of Alpha Flight in the not-too-distant 
past.)  I really doubt they told the artist "this one's all yours" without
giving them something to draw.

But it DID give the letterer a small vacation.

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
'Cats - Hell, I can't remember the score.  They just lost to Mizzou.  *sigh*
"I've got the motive which is money, and I've got the body which is DEAD."
	-- In the Heat of the Night
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Re: Superman, Superman, Everybody's talking about Superman ...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:28:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Nov22.060616.27524@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:

|> 	Just curious--  does any one know how much DC is expecting to gross/
|> net on this issue?  The reason I ask is that the people who are probably 
|> making the most money on #75 is not the folks at DC, but the "speculators"--
|> the comic shop owners who raised prices to reflect demand, the purchases who
|> bought several copies, etc.
|> 	In short, I think that this will turn out to be a failed marketing 
|> ploy.  I hope I'm wrong, though.  DC is my favorite comics company and I would
|> like to see them get more of the market share--  if they did, then maybe they
|> wouldn't have to cancel some of my favorite series.  Maybe time will prove
|> me wrong, but I doubt it.
|> 
I think DC made scads of money on this issue. They may not have got the
 inflated prices but they still sold LOTS of issues at a profit...
 --Jennifer
 jlevine@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Superman hiatus (was Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:16:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.145344.16340@news.acns.nwu.edu> jeff@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson) writes:
>While I really think the storyline is a cheesy idea, and not that well
>executed at all, I have a touch more respect for DC if they can keep this
>Supes hiatus going for a reasonably decent length of time.
Cheezy?   You want Cheezy?  Check out the mail page for the most recent
Ghost Rider!   Now THAT'S Cheezy!

August Paul Yang thinks that the little drawing there should have been left
out.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor Morgan)
Subject: Re: Million Year Picnic in Boston - Fire
Keywords: Fire
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:56:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.052125.17549@news.columbia.edu> ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz) writes:

>I realize that many people on the net want information about various comic
>stores, but this info has absolutely no relevance to people who don't
>live in the area. I'm sure that people in other parts of the world couldn't
>care less about a store in Boston burning down. While this info does have some
>relevance to the comic world, people who don't live near the store in question
>shouldn't have to read about it.

Well, actually, your assurance that other people in the world couldn't
care less about a store in Boston (actually Cambridge) burning down is
obviously incorrect.  At least two people who have participated in this
thread are not in the New England area (Rawdon in Wisconsin and myself
in Maryland).  This comic store, to me and evidently to other posters,
is well-liked.

>                                 Please mark all future articles about stores
>with a distribution specific to the area which the store serves.
>For example, if you want to talk about Atomic Comics in Providence, RI, keep
>your distribution to RI. This way, people in California won't have to read it.

Not often does a comic book store face a disaster such as this, and
thereforenot often will you see a thread such as this.  This topic is
not the same as "XYZ Comics in Santa Fe is having a 50% off sale on
all back issues!", in which a limited distribution would be
preferable.  It would be better if those who had no interest in this
store did not have to read the articles, but this is one case in
which geographical distribution is not the logical answer.


-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman 75 (no spoilers)
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:13:04 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:

}    If I can't find a reading copy, I'm gonna rip open this bagged one soon.
}I'm hesitant, 'cause I'm expecting very little in terms of story and art and
}if I can get some $ I'll gladly rid myself of this garbage.  Are the extra
}items cool enough to open this thing?  Or should I just rid myself of this
}crap.

I say if you can make a decent profit, then keep it closed and sell it
quick.  *Nothing* inside, neither the extra items nor especially the
comic itself is worth anything.

--James Preston
From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Marvel Masterpiece
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:03:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
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Does anybody know the shipping for these cards.  The shipping date was supposed
to be late Oct, what is going on here.  I also heard that there will not be
any holo/prism cards in the box.  Does anybody know what kind of specialty
cards will there be.

Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Names 2099
From: <CM26ACCW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 13:21:00 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Marvel once again shows little foresight in titling this new
series.  By naming them all 2099, what happens after about
three to four years (as if these lame titles will last this
long)?  Will they still carry the year 2099?
  This titling is in the tradition of the NEW mutants, how
long could it be NEW.  the same problem with the NEW Universe.
If the prior examples hold true 2099 will be history
before too long, or rob liefeld will make a spinoff.  in any
case don't waste your money.
 
Just my opinion, and the lukewarm response to the books so far.
I bought spiderman 2XXX 1 and 2 and they're okay (PAD and
devote followers take note) and Ravage 1 (sucked) but I
certainly won't buy Punisher 2XXX and have serious doubts
about Doom.
 
I don't think Marvel will stoop low enough to introduce
X-Men 2XXX but I wouldn't be too suprised.  Hey they're introducing
another regular FF series why not include every title in this
quantity instead of quality dribble.  Enough, I'm rambling
From: pact_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Blade)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Which Flash is Faster?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:14:37 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov23.181702.27568@tandem.com> Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:


>None of the "feats" you mention measure up to Jay outrunning electricity, which
>is close to the speed of light.  Or even that scene in the JSA title, where Jay
>runs to another state to get a newspaper and gets back in a couple of seconds.
>The real answer: they're as fast as the writers/editors say, of course.  But if
>we constrain ourselves to what we've seen in the books, then Jay is MUCH faster
>than Wally.

>Kevvy Kev
>(. . .We're only guessing.  We aren't dealing with reality.)
> -Lance "William Blake?" Smith
	

	Actually, if I'm not mistaken, there was something in the back of a
special issue of Flash which featured a short story for all three Flashes. 
The whole point was that the time-traveller needed a Flash to beat a villain
that only the Flashes had beaten before.  He ended up becoming another Flash
(sometime around the year 2200 or something like that.)  Anyway, there was a
short three to four pages in the back discussing the various strong points
and weak points of each Flash.  According to the write-up, Barry Allen and
Jay were about equal for speed.  Barry could maintain the speed longer,
while Jay could put out more for quick bursts.  It was mentioned that Wally
could originally keep up with Barry.  Then the stuff happened with his
metabolism, slowing him down.  According to the writer, though, Wally has
the potential to outrun both of the others.  (Especially with the amount of
extra training and stuff...)			Pete
-- 
Pete Schott                    pact_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm good enough,
I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
From: gu@castle.ed.ac.uk (G Ushaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Final Morrison Doom Patrol?
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:33:55 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low) writes:


>I got the last Doom Patrol (I can't quite remember the number)
>and it seemed to be the final one that Morrison will be putting
>out, although I'm no expert...does anyone know anything about this?

>I thought it worked especially well as an ending.  I liked the feeling
>of uncertainty even as the story ended with an air of conclusiveness...
>For a while, I was wondering whether or not the Chief's program
>had really been terminated...or did the Chief's program manifest
>itself in the form of Danny the World?

>Great stuff!

Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. It reminded me of the last episode of The
Prisoner in a lot of ways. I got the impression that Grant was
getting a bit bored with writing DP over the last few months, but this
final issue was much more like the stuff we've all come to love. The
very last page in particular was just so very...

For some reason I thought next issue was going to be his last one, but I
don't see how that can be the case now.

The anti-climactic battle in the computer was pure Grant Morrison, wasn't
it? A severed head on a welcome mat with a plant pot on it and then...
nothing! Or everything, depending on how you look at it. Wonderfully
ambiguous.

Big question now is  can Rachel Pollack possibly follow this? Or will we
all just have to wait for Sebastian o to come out. And Flex Mentallo.
And whatever other groovy stuff Grant has in his pipelines...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: goan@cs.washington.edu (Terrance Goan)
Subject: X-men cartoon
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:34:19 GMT

I'm sure this has been covered in detail, but since I just now
started reading this group I missed it.  Is the Fox X-men cartoon
gone for good?

TJ.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dwelling@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dastardly Don Wellington III)
Subject: Re: Spidey Movie????????
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:00:32 GMT

	There is going to be a spiderman movie and James Cameron is going to
direct it.  This is from the last Marvel quarterly report that I read.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Japanese Comic Books
From: <CM26ACCW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 14 Nov 1992 11:58:33 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

The following is from a non-comic enthusiast friend of mine who is
now in Tokyo.  I was wondering if anyone had any reccomendations
or information about japanese comics and what might be interesting
or good to pickup.  This letter followed my request for him to
pick  up a Japanese Translated copy of The X-Men, because people
suggested it was a big seller in Japan and it might be easy for
him to run across.  When in fact:
 
>I can't findany X-mMen comic books here.  Do you know who publishes
>it?  I spent about an hour running to different book and magazine
>shops, including an "underground" comic book place.  They all asked
>th same thing "Is it a thick or thin comic book?  who publishes it
>in Japan?"  The last queston is tricky, since they said that whoever
>publishes it in the US is probably not who publishes it in Japan.
 
>I haven't gone to the American ghetto yet (its called Roppongi).
>(rest omitted)
 
I would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions, I assume
by thick they mean graphic novel type so I'm not interested in
that.  If possible I'd like to get a copy of the X-Men,
and Avengers from Marvel, and a copy of Sandman from DC, if
anyone has any info on the publishers of these please reply
via direct email to me.
 
Many thanks in advance, he'll only be there a few more weeks so
I hope to get word back to him ASAP.  Thanks again
 
Chris
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:06:23 GMT

In article <1egqo1INNkpg@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:
>	I haven't given it a lot of thought, but IMHO, only two characters
>are 'worthy' of killing Superman: Lex Luthor and Darkseid.

Personally, I could live with the Time Trapper, who three or four versions
of the universe back did kill Superboy. And Clark thought Batman would be
worthy, thus the awarding him the green K ring.

However, you left off one other character who's been shown killing Superman,
and who I'd have to consider worthy. Namely, one Kal-El. Take a look at 
the end of Moore's Last Superman Story, where Superman is definitely killed
off (OK, so Kal-El isn't; Superman is).

"Baldrick, you wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and
danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Subtle Plans Are Here Again'."
--Blackadder 
tyg  tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: lsmith@pico.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Gaiman & Cooper
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:50:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: pico.lsmith.722141405
Organization: The Billion Dollar Squids of the Poor

In <1992Nov18.032252.10209@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:


> ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN) writes:
> 
>>     Has anyone read the latest Previews?  Its got a pretty decent interview
>> with Neil.  It also mentions him working on a concept album with Alice Cooper
>> I think this could be really neat, being that 'Alice Cooper is a comic book
>> character already'.

>Neil Gaiman devised the concept for AC's next album, and co-wrote the lyrics,
>according to the last info I had from him on his many, many deadlines.

Alice Cooper!?! We're not worthy! Last I heard, he was coaching T-ball.

"Welcome to my Dreaming?" Been done
"Only Women Dream?" Ditto
"Billion Dollar Endless?" Don't think so.
"Alice Cooper goes to Hell?" Been done and a possible conflict with Spawn #8.
"Eighteen Thousand?" Possibly.

----------------------------
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Oh, you can have any room you want. No one stops
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  here since the new highway went in. I just turn
  Growing old is mandatory |  on the light to make sure it works. Let me get 
   Growing up is optional  |  you some towels." _Mr Peanut at the Bates Motel_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: REVIEWS: Robocop/Terminator, Sword of Azrael, Namor
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:45:59 GMT

pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:

>ROBOCOP vs. TERMINATOR
>----------------------

>    I just don't know what to say about this.  It's a mess.  Miller and
>    Simonson (two of my favorite creators) just are not working well together
>    on this book.  Miller isn't helping matters much.  His script is muddled,
>    confusing, and rehashed.  There are some GREAT premises here, but they are
>    getting watered down by bad scripting, and rehashed tricks.  (How many
>    times will Miller use 'die by fire'?)  It's a shame because this series
>    could have been really well done.  Simonson is just not shining with this
>    book as much as I thought he might.  Plenty of machinery and guns to keep
>    him happy, but his artwork is often flat and confusing.

I agree. I'm a big fan of Miller and I usually quite like
Simonson's artwork but this is aweful writing-wise and
art-wise. And I can't stand those stupid cut-outs in the
middle of each issue.

Jed
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:56:20 GMT

We already established that Doomsday exudes an "idiot field" as his most
potent power, which seems to be able to reach the writers as well.

	Jericho was BTW my #1 way to take out Doomsday since he has always
been the char to deal with the phenomenally powerful (physical) nothing like
controlling Mammon's errr Doomsdays body and using his strength constructively

(of course Im the original Titans zombie so...)

-- 
"Salam and good evening to you sir.  Welcome to Agribah, land of mystery
of enchantment, and the best deals this side of the river Jordan, come on down"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Deathstroke--> I knew it!!!!, I knew it!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:13:21 GMT

Oh dear, Cheshire is...well  Cheshire (its sort of like asking who is
Lex Luthor wrt Superman)  In short she is affiliated with the Brotherhood
of Evil, is a feamle terrorist, and also the mother of Speedy's child
(so you know he'll be showing up in his new outfit any second now)
She has no real "powers" just a very cunning person much like Deathstroke
himself.

-- 
"Salam and good evening to you sir.  Welcome to Agribah, land of mystery
of enchantment, and the best deals this side of the river Jordan, come on down"
From: mkelly@goya.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Final Morrison Doom Patrol?
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:16:55 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@goya.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 gu@castle.ed.ac.uk (G Ushaw) writes:

|> Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. It reminded me of the last episode of The
|> Prisoner in a lot of ways. I got the impression that Grant was
|> getting a bit bored with writing DP over the last few months, but this
|> final issue was much more like the stuff we've all come to love. The
|> very last page in particular was just so very...

Morrison had a good quote in Animal Man 26 about his finishing off storylines
in rather anticlimatic ways. Perhaps Tyg can scratch it out of his quotefile...

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: mkelly@dumpster.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: DC: Re: How was ROBIN 3000?
Reply-To: mkelly@dumpster.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:12:48 GMT

 panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:

|> AM I the only one who liked ROBIN 3000? 

"Hmmm...You might Rabbit, you might...."

|> It isn't a Great and Memorable comic, but it was pretty good, and better 
|> than some of the other Elseworlds stories so far.

Hmmm....I liked the Flash Gordon feel to it, but I think it was too expensive
to be really worthwhile. I do think that the set would probably make a good
gift for younger comic readers.

I'm sure I would have enjoyed it more if the story were more "childlike". That
is, eliminate the Selina character, don't worry about motivations of the
characters, etc. If it were more of a good guy-bad guy fairy tale I'm sure
I'd have loved it.

What I hated about the book: Idiotic editors who put asterisks in to explain
that ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival, but who ignore things like "prosthesis"
"cloning" "hyperspace" etc.

|> Namaste,
|> Elizabeth

Gesundheit.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +