Original_To:  BITNET%"mbu-l@ttuvm1.bitnet"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.mbu-l
Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:31:00 EDT
From:         "Composition Digest (Robert Royar,
              Moderator)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
Subject:      (Fwd: *C&CD*) Relationship between CCD,
              MBU and comp. edu.composition (2)

Entry: 2
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:25:46 EST
From: IN%"RobertRoyar@Delphi.COM" Robert Royar, (C&CD Moderator)
Message-id: <1992Dec11.202546.v7.043.1.Grendel.Lair@Cratylus>
Subject: Relationship between CCD, MBU and comp.edu.composition (2)
Reply-to: "Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
Organization: Cratylus Educational Software

This is in response to a query about the List-o-Lists description of C&CD
(woefully out of date), MBU and C&CD relations, and why there's so much
overlap.

C&CD began when there wasn't as much in the way of unmoderated groups on
Bitnet. Most were on usenet then. Digests were the preferred method for
many of the Bitnet nodes. Then there were about 20 of us in industry and
composition interested in computers in the class and in word-processor
design. There were few LANs at that time. After C&CD was created someone
from Berkeley contacted me wanting to port the Digest messages over to
usenet and comp.edu.composition was born. A year later at CCCC there was
little interest in Bitnet in the US, but a number of Canadian teachers
joined. About two years later Fred Kemp started MBU-L and subscribed me.
The Digest automatically included the MBU postings.  Eventually the MBU
volume became so large that I had to begin sending the Digest on a daily
basis (at least most days).

We still get some non-MBU material (probably enough for a bi-weekly
Digest), but my software automatically reflects that back to MBU and
comp.edu.composition, so it becomes MBU-L mail also. I think the two basic
groups C&CD and MBU-L serve the same community, but some people prefer to
read the messages coagulated together in one package while others want each
one separate. I still get a few people each month who drop one to move to
the other

The description of the list is difficult to change because the CCD list is
not a real list at all. We have no server site and although I moderate the
list, I do not even own the account it's on. Even the account name has
changed, so my attempts to get action on changing the description go
unanswered because to anyone reading a request from me it looks as though I
have no business requesting a change in the description. The original
description came from COMPOS01@ULKYVX03.BITNET; my current (borrowed)
account is R0MILL01@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU. It was set up in 1985. I haven't
even been able to get the guys at Berkeley to re-alias the
comp.edu.composition "reflector." Mail still goes through that list to
COMPOS01. I have no idea how it gets aliased to my borrowed account--but it
does.

 -- Robert Royar (RobertRoyar@Delphi.com) New York Institute of Technology
    "The guerrilla lives among the people like the fish in the sea."
                                                              - Mao Zedong

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