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From: Joe_Neldrett@lppl.mi.org (Joe Neldrett)
Newsgroups: mi.misc
Subject: Re: Early color reports
Distribution: world
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:37:27 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

In a message dated Wed 29 Jul 92 21:06, bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) wrote:

 JB> is it just me, or does the fact that this discussion is taking place
at
 JB> all seem just completely absurd? I mean, it's not even AUGUST yet...we
 JB> have two full months to go yet!!
Maybe all this Global Warming talk has some people thinking it has some
direct effect on leaves! 

 JB> wonder what winter's gonna be like this year.
Hopefully cold enough to keep lakes frozen and snow on the ground for a
change (OH HOW I HATE DETROIT WINTERS!) What I would give for a good
Houghton-Style Winter!

 JB> just freezing my butt off in the Great Soon-To-Be-White North (and
 JB> loving it)
Enjoy! And don't get hit by a huge snowplow!



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Newsgroups: mi.misc
From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Macintosh Serial Ports
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:55:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: mi

david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang) writes:

>Can anyone give me the specs of the Macintosh serial ports?
>I need to make a cable and need to know which pin is CTS, RTS,
>RD, SD, Ground, etc.  Both the DIN-8 and the DB-9 pinouts 
>would be appreciated.

It should be in the owners manual for the machine.  It is also
in Think Reference and one of the earlier volumes of Inside Mac.

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Newsgroups: mi.map
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: For Sale -- UNIX Security Book by Frisch
Organization: Inland Sea
Distribution: mi
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:24:34 GMT


Thru reasons too silly to explain, I've wound up with two copies of
Eileen Frisch's "Essential System Administration".  This is a paperback
from Nutshell books, usually a high-quality source for UNIX books.  I've
not read it yet, so can't say how good it is.  Original price is
$29.95, I'm asking $15.00 and will pay shipping.  New condition except
for my name in one place.
-- 
"There's a very fine line  between a groove and a rut.
 Fine line between eccentrics and people who are just plain nuts."
	-- Christine Lavin, "Prisoners Of Their Hairdos"
Newsgroups: mi.wanted,comp.periphs.edu
From: bbesler@ouchem.chem.oakland.edu (Brent H. Besler)
Subject: Toner Cartridges
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:34:40 GMT

Where is the best place to get toner cartridges for a HP LaserLet III
SI?  A place that had recycled cartridges and was local to the Detroit,
MI area would be best.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: mi.wanted,misc.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.wanted
From: gilgalad@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin)
Subject: WANTED: 486 machine or motherboard
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:54:11 GMT


Hi.  Like the title says, I'm in the market for a 486 motherboard.
Here's a list of the features that I'd like:

-lots of slots
-SIMM memory expansion (32 or 64M on motherboard)
-AMI BIOS
-"Local Bus" would be nice, but not necessary
-1280x1024 SVGA card (not necessary)
-tower case
-good solid keyboard with good layout
-1.44 3.5"
-1.2 5.25"
-128K or more cache
-CDROM (nice, but not necessary)
-SoundBlaster  (nice, but not necessary)
-200M hard drive or larger (nice, but not necessary)
-...


Newsgroups: mi.news
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Good News / Bad News
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:19:29 GMT
Distribution: mi
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <1992Jul25.204747.7262@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us> root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks) writes:
>Now the GOOD news,  I have gnuucp (taylor uucp) but being that I'm NOT a
>programmer I can't get it to compile correctly, once this is done we should
>get over 1000+ cps out of the Supra's.

Two suggestions...First of all, make sure you have the most recent
version of Taylor.  The latest release version is 1.03, and there have
been several patches since then.  You can get the patches from
nic.funet.fi:/pub/unix/networking/taylor.  Second of all, you probably
want to join the Taylor UUCP mailing list.  Patches, problems, fixes,
etc. are discussed there; right now it is averaging about 3-4 messages
a day.  The author of Taylor reads it and responds on a regular basis,
so you should be able to get some help with your problems there.  To
subscribe to the list, send a message to
taylor-uucp-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu with your name and e-mail address.
Submissions go to taylor-uucp@gnu.ai.mit.edu.

I have Taylor compiled for my SVR4 (Esix) system.  There were a few
minor glitches, but it's mostly working fine.  I haven't decided yet
whether Taylor is better than SVR4 UUCP, but I think I like it better
simply because I have the source to Taylor and can modify it for my
needs more easily.  SVR4 UUCP may be more powerful for the time being,
but your chances of getting a feature request implemented before SVR5
is almost nil.

-- 
Marc Unangst                | Real men don't make backups.  Real men never
mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | accidentally delete files that they're going
<backbone>!sharkey!mudos!mju| to need later.
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: sea@ais.org (Steve Arlow)
Subject: New area-code (was: Re: USENET backbone...)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:36:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul14.221207.3521@cfctech.cfc.com> kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul14.143336.28095@vela.acs.oakland.edu> tjhacker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Thomas J. Hacker) writes:
>>
>>I just heard on WJR that Mi Bell is going to split the 313 area code along
>>8 mile road.  South of 8 mile (AA, Yp, Det, etc) will remain 313.  North, 
>>some will go to 517, some (Lapeer, Pontiac, probably Roch and points east?) 
>>will get a new one, which will be 810.  The change will probably happen in 
>>two years.
>
>I, for one, can't wait for this to happen. "Long distance" between Ann Arbor
>and the Greater Detroit Area is bound to be far cheaper than the exorbitant
>prices Michigan Bell is charging me now for my intra-LATA calls. Heck, even 
>my calls to Massachusetts are cheaper than my calls to Southfield, rate-
>period for rate-period, as was the last call I made to California (!!!)...

You can easily (and legally) charge your intra-LATA calls to your LD carrier
instead, by prefacing them with the appropriate 10-code.  Eg., if you use
AT&T, dial your intra-LATA call as 10288-(313)-555-1212.  I looked into this 
myself, and there's only one catch:  Special discount schedules which apply
only to LD calls direct-dialed from your home may not apply to calls placed
this way -- consult your LD company.
From: Steven_Moss@lppl.mi.org (Steven Moss)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Address directory? does it exist? 
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:58:33 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is the place to ask but I don't know where else to go.

Is there a way to find out if someone has an account on the internet or
UUCP,
I mean a way to search for a correct path address?

 for example: I want to send mail to    Richard B. Lane
                                        Dept. of Mathamatics
                                        University of Montana

But I do not know if he has an account or not. (I realize that I can always
use the US postal service, but hey that costs 29 cents and is too easy).

I just want to know for future reference if there is a way to search for
somebody's uucp or internet address if you don't know it or have lost it.

thanks for your time.

                                    Respond:  steven_moss@lppl.mi.org

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Newsgroups: mi.news
From: bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher)
Subject: modems
Organization: U of Michigan ITD Research Systems
Distribution: mi
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:42:03 GMT

Our budget was released today, and we have some money to upgrade the modems
we have been using on sharkey and mailrus (Telebit TrailBlazer+'s).  We'd
like to put one or two modems on destroyer for UUCP use.  (I'm not sure
what we'll do then with the old modems; perhaps keep them for other uses
or sell them off.)

Does anyone - especially those that will be dialing in - have a suggestion
as to what we ought to buy?  What's a good modem to buy?  What's a good
company from which to buy it?  If I buy it from company X, will they give
me a good warranty or service contract?  Can they give me a cable so that
I can plug it into one of my Sun-4/350 serial ports and it'll work just
fine?  The easier it is for me to buy, install, and maintain, the better.

We can spend up to $500 for a modem, and we can buy up to two modems.

Thanks in advance for the advice.
-- 
Bryan Beecher, U-M Information Technology Division (+1 313 747 4050)
Domain:	Bryan.Beecher@umich.edu        Path:  ..!uunet!mailrus!bryan
From: rrichter@rphroy.ph.gmr.com (Roy Richter PH/32)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Re: GMR mail hosed?
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:28:13 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs, Warren, MI

Some mail is getting through, and news.  The gmr.com machine is running
free, though...hang on until somebody notices.

Sorry about this.
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: leffler@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Bob Leffler)
Subject: Re: GMR mail hosed?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:03:26 GMT

paul@engin.umich.edu (Paul Killey) writes:



>time for a phone call.  looks vaguely like VMS is blowing up on
>their end.  Configuration changed, upgrade goofed up, whatever.


However, GMR like the most of GM (except sales) and the EDS'ers on the
GM Account are all on vacation until August 3rd.   MY guess is the
computers at GMR may not be in production status until then.

bob
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: modems
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Distribution: mi
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:00:26 GMT

bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher) writes:

>Our budget was released today, and we have some money to upgrade the modems
> . . .  We'd like to put one or two modems on destroyer for UUCP use.

>We can spend up to $500 for a modem, and we can buy up to two modems.

Well . . . if you can go $500 each and can only buy two, you might want
to look at the WorldBlazer.  I've been pretty happy with mine so far --
it's talked to every v32, v42, and PEP modem I've got access to.  At
v42 it easily beats PEP transfers, and supposedly Turbo-PEP will do even
better.

As interactive v32 modems Telebits are only so-so (thus sayeth the guys
at MorningStar, who have tested most modems *extensively*).  The win
is that if you only have 2 ports, the WB gives you the widest variety
for those ports.
-- 
"I was disqualified when I mooed at a propane tank mistaking it for a cow."
    Patrick E Fleming, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: liz@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Elizabeth Zaenger)
Subject: GMR mail hosed?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:34:33 GMT


Something is wrong with the mail at gmr.com.  I have a bunch of
stuff in my mail queue marked 

(Deferred: Connection reset by peer during greeting wait with gmr.com)

When I run the queue, I get this:

xxx@gmr.com... Connecting to gmr.com (tcpld)...

24-JUL-92  10:26:11: Can't initialize MM_%PAS-F-HALT, HALT procedure called

<Bunch of dump info deleted>

-- no equivalence addresses for alias postmaster%PAS-E-ERRDURCLO, 
error during CLOSE
  File "^TEXT"  Filename "_INET8233:[].;"-RMS-E-DPE, device positioning error-
SYSTEM-F-ILLIOFUNC, illegal I/O function code

xxx@gmr.com... Deferred: Connection reset by peer during greeting wait with gmr.com

This has been going on for the whole week now.  Anyone know what's going on
out there?
Newsgroups: mi.news
From: paul@engin.umich.edu (Paul Killey)
Subject: Re: GMR mail hosed?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:10:15 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor



time for a phone call.  looks vaguely like VMS is blowing up on
their end.  Configuration changed, upgrade goofed up, whatever.


Newsgroups: mi.news
From: root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks)
Subject: Good News / Bad News
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Distribution: mi
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:47:47 GMT

As the Subjet: line states, I have some good news and some bad news...

First the BAD news,  I have had a heck of a time trying to get our 14.4 V.32
bis Supra modem to work well, we have tracked down the problem, it's the
Plexus' UUCP (uucico) it's stuck at 3,64 (window size) and needs to be upped
to at least 7,64 which can't be done without the source (which of course we
do -NOT- have). Currently we are getting about 300-350 cps which is -NOT-
good.

Now the GOOD news,  I have gnuucp (taylor uucp) but being that I'm NOT a
programmer I can't get it to compile correctly, once this is done we should
get over 1000+ cps out of the Supra's.


Now for the part you've all been waiting for... Is there anyone out there that
is willing to devote a bit of time to help us out? if so please either mail
me: root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us or call me voice 663-6207.

I'm sure Ivars could figure this out but he left for vacation and I'd really
like to get this done A.S.A.P.  Thanks in advance,
						   _____    _____
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-- 
sharkey!m-net!kite    Public Access   Altos 68020 UNIX Sys-III (313) 994-6333
sharkey!kitenet!kite     "     "      Altos 68000 UNIX Sys-III (313) 663-7255
vela!plex-1!root       Usenet News    Plexus P/35 68000 UNIX SysV.2  663-6207
  -- You can mail Dave Parks at these addresses, or phone (313) 663-2247 --
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Re: Address directory? does it exist?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 10:40:21 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I got a question about the "usenet-addresses" server I mentioned in my
last posting; here's a blurb on it.

This from the soc.net-people FAQ "FAQ: How to find people's E-mail
addresses", from
	rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/finding-addresses

*. Usenet-addresses server

  If you think that your target may be on the USENET and may have
posted a message to the USENET at some point in the past, you might be
able to find his/her address in the USENET address database on the
machine pit-manager.mit.edu.

  To query the database, send an E-mail message to
"mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu" with "send usenet-addresses/name" in
the body or subject of the message.  The "name" should be one or more
space-separated words for which you want to search; since the search
is fuzzy (i.e., all of the words you specify do not have to match),
you should list all of the words you think might appear in the
address, including (for example) first and last name, possible
username, and possible components of the host name (e.g. "mit" for a
person who you think is at MIT).  The case and order of the words you
list are ignored.

  Note that multiple requests can appear (on separate lines) in mail
to the mail server, but each request will be answered in a separate
message.

  In many cases, you will get a list of quite a few matching
addresses, and you will have to go through it looking for ones that
may be the one you're looking for.  However, the mail server will
return a maximum of only 40 matches.

  Note that the usenet-addresses database is accessible via WAIS (in
fact, the script that does mail server searches is actually just a
front-end to a WAIS database) on two different hosts:
pit-manager.mit.edu and cedar.cic.net.  In both cases, the database is
called "usenet-addresses" and is on port 210.  Note that the version
on pit-manager is slightly more up-to-date with respect to the master
address list than the version on cedar.  If you don't know what WAIS
is, then don't worry about this paragraph; if you're curious, see the
"alt.wais" newsgroup.

  For more details about how to use the database, send the command
"send usenet-addresses/help".
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Re: Address directory? does it exist?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 08:54:14 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Steven_Moss@lppl.mi.org (Steven Moss) writes:
: I'm not sure if this is the place to ask but I don't know where else to go.
: 
:  for example: I want to send mail to    Richard B. Lane
:                                         Dept. of Mathamatics
:                                         University of Montana

try "lane@selway.umt.edu".

the command I used to find this was "netfind".  it's a server running in
Colorado built by Mike Schwartz, a sort of a super "finger".  The search
string I used was
	lane montana
It gave me back a dozen sites in Montana that are on the net, and from
there did the search through the umt.edu campus.

to use it 
	netfind						on Msen
	telnet bruno.cs.colorado.edu; login: netfind
	in the gopher "Phone Books" menu on most gophers

: I just want to know for future reference if there is a way to search for
: somebody's uucp or internet address if you don't know it or have lost it.

There are other ways of finding people, depending on what you know about
them.  If they post netnews you can find them with the "usenet-addresses"
server.  If they run a UUCP site you can look in the UUCP maps.  If you
know what organization they belong to you can send mail to postmaster at
that site and get details from there.

hope this helps,

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 741 1120
"We believe in: rough concensus and working code."  Dave Clark on the IETF
 Msen offers shell accounts, a local call for all of +1 313! info@Msen.com
From: Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Re: sharkey -> destroyer, mi.org
Distribution: world
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:01:39 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

Whoa, hey. Expect some mail from me soon about having my MX address moved
or whatever needs to be done to keep it going...

Also, about this USENET Backbone deal. I currently get my feed from Vela at
OU, but I'd be willing to provide a feed to people local to the Pontiac
(Orion Township) area. 

I would like to limit myself to 1 or 2 feeds, though, until I can upgrade
to a Supra V32bis 9600. (Currently running a USR 9600HST which I don't
think will handle UUCP at 9600 properly.)



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Newsgroups: mi.news
From: root@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dave Parks)
Subject: Re: Good News / Bad News
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Distribution: mi
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:42:43 GMT

In article <Bs4GsJ.JpK@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:
>
>Two suggestions...First of all, make sure you have the most recent
>version of Taylor.  The latest release version is 1.03, and there have
>been several patches since then.
>
>Second of all, you probably
>want to join the Taylor UUCP mailing list.  Patches, problems, fixes,
>etc. are discussed there; right now it is averaging about 3-4 messages
>a day.  The author of Taylor reads it and responds on a regular basis,
>so you should be able to get some help with your problems there.  To
>subscribe to the list, send a message to
>taylor-uucp-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu with your name and e-mail address.
>Submissions go to taylor-uucp@gnu.ai.mit.edu.
>
>-- 
>Marc Unangst                | Real men don't make backups.  Real men never
>mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | accidentally delete files that they're going
><backbone>!sharkey!mudos!mju| to need later.

Ooops, I hit a "R" instead of a "F" ;)

Thanks for the input Marc, I do have version 1.03 but if it's going to be
patches after patches to get it right, I think I'd like to look into other
options first (or together). I guess I'll join the mailing list and see
what happens. I am still interested in finding someone who can get this to
compile and at least run without dumping core.
						   _____    _____
						  '  /  )  '  )  )
						  .-/- /    -/--'
						 (_/__/_AVE / ARKS
-- 
sharkey!m-net!kite    Public Access   Altos 68020 UNIX Sys-III (313) 994-6333
sharkey!kitenet!kite     "     "      Altos 68000 UNIX Sys-III (313) 663-7255
vela!plex-1!root       Usenet News    Plexus P/35 68000 UNIX SysV.2  663-6207
  -- You can mail Dave Parks at these addresses, or phone (313) 663-2247 --
From: bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher)
Newsgroups: mi.news
Subject: Re: sharkey -> destroyer, mi.org
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:18:56 GMT
Distribution: mi
Organization: U of Michigan ITD Research Systems

Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins) writes:
>Also, about this USENET Backbone deal. I currently get my feed from Vela at
>OU, but I'd be willing to provide a feed to people local to the Pontiac
>(Orion Township) area. 

I'll add you to the list I'm compiling.  I'm meeting with the sys admin at
Medar tomorrow night (and some other folks), and I should have a much
expanded list by then.

BTW, once we've moved mcnnet from sharkey to destroyer, Steve Corso is
willing to give out some feeds, especially smaller ones.  He is located
in Dearborn.
-- 
Bryan Beecher, U-M Information Technology Division (+1 313 747 4050)
Domain:	Bryan.Beecher@umich.edu        Path:  ..!uunet!mailrus!bryan
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: War for Oil (was Re: Gas Boycott)
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:24:23 GMT

In article <3644@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca>, clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
|> Nope.  Much simpler than that.  Oil producing countries usually have
|> lower prices than other countries.  Canada is an oil-producing country.
|> Non oil-producing countries tend to have high taxes to try to offset
|> the horrendous trade deficit.
|> 
|> Which war are you referring to?  Iraq?  May I remind you that the USA
|> didn't buy oil from Iraq *or* Kuwait?

No, but the buy a *LOT* of cheap oil from Saudi Arabia, the next country on
Iraq's hit list.  The U.S. went to war over money (cheap oil) - that was the
only reason, and that's why they are do dick all about Serbia - there's no
money in it.  What really surprises me is that the rest of the world feels
they can't do anything without the U.S. holding their hands.  Who cares what
George Bush thinks, let's do the right thing in Serbia, and end the violence!

Don
My brain, my thoughts, my words.
"Pick up the receiver, I'll make you a believer." - Depeche Mode
Newsgroups: ott.general