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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Where's the getty coming from?
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:53:45 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY


  when I boot linux on my home machine, I see a getty running on ttys1.
I wonder where this is coming from, since (a) the is no ttys1 device on
the machine, (b) it's not in inittab, and (c) it's not in /etc/rc.

  Oh, and after going out and getting a serial mouse because I didn't
want to wait for the patches which make the bus mouse work, and putting
in a serial card to run the mouse, X still doesn't see it (yes I patched
Xconfig).
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0 / Linux wrt BYTE Mag.
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Jul23.052153.19175@athena.mit.edu>, jgifford@attmail.com writes:
| There is a VERY nice write-up on Coherent 4.0 in the August issue of BYTE, page
| 37.  The author says a lot of nice things about it, but it seems that linux
| is better, cause we now have X, and coherent doesn't.

  Keep in mind that linux and Coherent have gone very different ways.
Coherent provides a small number of features, well documented and
robust. linux provides a large number of features (X, VM, etc) but there
are multiple solutions to the same problem, tons of undocumented things,
and not everything is of uniform quality.

  I think that linux has a great deal of potentioal, but it's not ready
for end users (and may never be). So your definition of "better" is one
thing and someone who wants to use the o/s for regular work may have
another. The people who take the time to package linux parts from many
places are doing a great service, perhaps as great as the people writing
code, because they are drawing people into the linux community who would
not otherwsie make the effort to try it. Some because they haven't the
technical smarts or net access, some (including me) because they only
view linux as another variant to which applications should be ported.

  At the moment Coherent and linux are useful to different user sets,
and I don't think either is "better" in an overall sense.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: I would like to download linux from someone
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:17:00 -0800

jc> I am located in So.Cal. I don't have FTP access. I do have
jc> 14.4(mnp/pep)
jc> comm. I am willing to drive to your site to copy floppies
jc> if I can't get
jc> dialin/download access.

You can call in here 503-344-9838 and ignore the CBV and still access
all of 
the LINUX files.  Or if you have a mailer  freq 1:152/35 for LINUX to
get 
the list. 
 
 * Origin: Intermittent Connection  Eugene, OR (1:152/35)
From: hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: For H.J., a minor suggestion
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:40:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Jul23.184027.1107
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Jul23.052200.19255@athena.mit.edu>, jgifford@attmail.com writes:
|> First, many many thanks for your efforts and support of gcc for linux.  I think
|> that many of us forget just how hard it is to compile a free unix without a
|> compiler.  ;)
|> I don't have 2.2.2 yet, but someone is mailing me the disks(no ftp)
|> I still have 2.1  :(
|> I have installed 1.4, and 2.1, and I was very confused both times.  
|> When installing 2.1, I had NO IDEA where to look for the README and install 
|> script.  as a matter of fact, I had it working before I even found them.  ;)
|> I was just thinking that it might be better if those documents were at the top
|> of the un-tarred tree of stuff, instead of hidden in ./install/????/????
|> (all of this is from memory, and if you have already changed this, I am sorry
|> to bother you.)
|> 
|> I must say though, you have accomplished a considerable task, going so far in
|> so little time.  :)
|> this is not meant to offend, nor is it a flame, just a friendly suggestion. :) 
|> :) :)
|> 

It's ok. I know that. I am trying to fix that in gcc 2.2.2d. Hi, 2.2.2d tester, what do you think the testing gcc 2.2.2d. I tried very hard to make
it fool-proof. Any suggestions?

-- 
H.J.
Gcc/libc maintainer for Linux.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: etlmike@jerry.ericom (Mike Wilcox)
Subject: Re: Two Hard drives?
Organization: Ericsson Ltd., Cellular Systems & Special Networks.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:24:47 GMT

In article <Brt6Lz.7Fp@news.udel.edu> radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes:

   OK, folks, here it is:  How to keep Linux entirely (err, almost) on a 
   second hard disk and still be able to boot without a floppy.  Here's
   what you do:

   [Note:  I have two Conner IDE drives.  The primary is a 119mb, and the
    second drive is a 84mb.  The following *is not guaranteed to work for
    you* ... but it probably will!]

   Enjoy,
   Todd

   -- 
   Todd Radel                   | "I obscenity in the milk of all," Agustin said,
   CIS/English undergrad        | "if it does not seem like a lunatic asylum in
   University of Delaware       | here." -- Hemingway, _For Whom the Bell Tolls_
   A.I. duPont Institute, 1600 Rockland Road, Wilmington, DE  19899


Just to back this up, I have a system set up with 2 IDE Drives as
follows:

  Disk 0:  48Mb DR-DOS
           48Mb Minix-fs for /usr/src
            4Mb Minix-fs for Minix root
           24Mb Minix-fs for Linux /usr

  Disk 1:   4Mb Minix-fs for Linux root
            8Mb Swap space
           64Mb Minix-fs for /home
           40Mb Minix-fs for Minix /usr

With this set-up, partition 3 of drive 0 is the active partition,
and boots up the Minix Boot Monitor. This can automatically find
the right Minix kernel on /dev/hda3. BUT, it can also get DOS
to boot from /dev/hda1, and Linux to boot from /dev/hdb1 (after
installing Shoelace on the first partition of Drive 1).

Note that both my Minix and Linux systems mount and use 2 of the
partitions,
and I have had no problems with either file system.


Mike
--
Mike Wilcox                    Guildford, Surrey, England.
CME 20 Design Dept.            Tel:   +44-483-303666
Ericsson Cellular Systems.     Email: etlmike@deep-thought.ericsson.se
From: hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: FLT_DIG, tabs, FPU, yacc
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:30:54 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Jul22.082501.20615@athena.mit.edu>, J.Jagger@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk writes:
|> 2. I'm running tests to try and break C library code. How do I
|> instruct gcc to link in the maths stuff? E.g. I've got a call to
|> sqrt(-1.0) and include <float.h> and <math.h> but it doesn't resolve.

add -lm.

|> 3. Has anyone run the Plum Hall Validation Suite on the C library ?
|> 4. Yacc. How do I instruct this NOT to buffer input. That is, when I
|> press return I want to process the input.
|> 

Write your own input stuff. I did this some times ago for an interactive
interpreter.

-- 
H.J.
Gcc/libc maintainer for Linux.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: 110 MHz Tseng 4k card from Tseng Labs (selfhelp in desiding on card/monitor combo)
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:49:36 GMT

>But what is magic with 1152x900 (sun uses it?)? On most screens that
>dosn't give square pixels. My monitor has 3/2 form factor, and is
>limited to 57kHz horizontaly. I want square pixels, so after
>calculating a bit 1120x746 seems to be ideal for my card/monitor
>combination. Figuring out what my dot clock is and my vertical refresh
>is left as an exercise for the reader :-)  (easy pie!)

Well, 1152 is dividable by 32 (which is great for monochrome
resolutions). That would leave around 910 pixels vertically. And maybe
1152x900 gives on SUN monitors square pixels ...

- Thomas
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das Reh springt weit,				#include <sys/pizza.h>
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From: barr@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mouse works in emacs but no x-popup-menu
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:20:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

>What doesn't work is C-S-left (x-buffer-menu) and C-S-middle (x-help).
>What emacs tells me is:

>	Symbol's function definition is void: x-popup-menu

>If I use help and do completion on: x- while trying to describe a function
>I get many possibilities but not x-popup-menu.

>I tried loading x-menu.el but I still get the same message. Gee - I just
>thought of something - maybe I should post to am emacs group :)

The x-popup-menu function is hard-coded into emacs.  My guess is that
whoever compiled emacs didn't include this function (maybe they took
the -DHAVE_X_MENU out of the config.h).

David
From: kludge@hardy.u.washington.edu (MoonMan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compiling OLVWM: the steps
Summary: Want a binary or two?  :)
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:05:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul28.070518.2700
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


  After about 4 hours of tweaking and stealing header files from the
UW systems, I finally got olvwm to compile.  Whew.  It WASN'T as easy
as you people have been saying, though... it relies on there being a
lot of header files there that aren't, so I got to port 7 or 8 over from
an Ultrix (BSD 4.2ish) system.
  Anyway, it IS compiled, and it DOES work under Linux v0.96b - would
anybody like me to upload it to tsx-11 or banjo?  It hardly seems fair
for everybody to have to go through what I did.  :)
  Now, if I only had an extra 200 meg HD, I'd work on porting XView.  :]

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: New version of the SCSI drivers
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:26:01 GMT

Ok, I've got patches against .96c pl 2.  Most notable changes in this 
version of the SCSI drivers are that 

- thanks to wde, the seagate driver has had bugs in the SAVE / RESTORE POINTER 
	operation fixed.  This should fix the corrupted blocks that occured on 
	some seagate systems when the drive disconnected inbetween two 
	sectors in the same block (ie, when the block spanned a cylinder 
	boundary).  Seagate only.

- A generic hard disk module has been added, that handles the partition
	reading for all disk devices in the system.  The nice sideeffects
	of this are 

- Extended partitions are supported

- If you have a SCSI only system, you can configure out the stock 
	hd.c driver.

- Places where block size was hardcoded as 2 sectors in sd.c, hd.c, 
	and blk.h have been changed so that the BLOCK_SIZE and 
	BLOCK_SIZE_BITS macros from <linux/fs.h> are used 
	instead. 


Problems / features not yet there : 

- I haven't changed to Linus's new IRQ allocation method (yet).  None of 
	the SCSI drivers grab an interrupt until they've detected the board 
	they drive, so it shouldn't be a real problem.

- The generic kernel with all devices configured builds and runs wonderfully,
	however something wierd is going on in that a smaller kernel crashes 
	during initialization - I haven't had a chance to look at it (yet),
	and couldn't say for certain that it is/isn't the SCSI drivers.

	Since it doesn't make it to the SCSI initialization code, I suspect
	"elsewhere."  

- Unified buffer cache / user memory pool : I'm having problems with the
	1k block size backwards compatability code. 

Reliability of the SCSI drivers : 

Reliability testing for me means setting up a nice, short shell script to
run in the background.  This shell script copies and compares large files
between the SCSI and normal disk, flushing buffer cache with a large reads
off of /dev/swap inbetween copy and compare.  At the same time, I do 
nasty things like reading tars off of the floppy disks.

Never crashed in 30 minutes, no failed comparisons.  
It works for me, your mileage may vary.

The files are 

headrest.woz.colorado.edu:/pub/linux/scsi.0.96c.2.tar.Z (source)
				     vmunix.0.96c.2.Z	(generic kernel)
From: dlbb0@diag.amdahl.com (David Black)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Choice of SCSI controllers?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:05:03 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale  CA

What SCSI controller(s) are known to coexist with an IDE controller and
also perform respectibly in LINUX (good xfer rate and "nice to the system")?
I almost snagged a $20 ST-01 at local electronics store, but thought there
might be better options.

Please post replies.

BTW, add me to the list of dialup sites carrying LINUX! At this time, the
data number listed in my .sig is for anonymous UUCP only (login: nuucp,
no password), but soon may be LINUX on-line. File listing is in pub:listing
and pub:listing.Z.

--
David L. Black                       Email: dlbb0@gyruss.diag.amdahl.com
I/O Diagnostics                      Voice: 408-992-3271
Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA     Data:  408-773-0768 (V.32bis/HST, 24 hrs.)
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New; FAQ.TEX
Keywords: faq linux version 7 LaTeX
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <3718@svin02.info.win.tue.nl>, alph@wsinfo01.win.tue.nl (G.J.W. Hagenaars) writes:
| 
| hi to everybody out there (in those dark and damp places where Linux
| hasn't been spotted yet and to all the ones who would like to change
| that, and everyone else) reading this.
| 
| The other day I was wondering if it would be possible for me to
| contribute something to the Linux-world.
| 
| And there wasn't; I lack knowledge to be a good beta-tester.
| 
| But, hey, wait a minute.
| Why not try and put the faq in a more printable form?
| 
| So..., I did. (I think)

  I just mentioned that people who help package linux are making a large
contribution, as well as those who write code. I certainly didn't mean
to omit thanks to those who document! Great idea.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Fax software ?
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:29:08 GMT

cgwillme@cybaswan.UUCP (r b willmersdorf) writes:

: In an archive site of gnu software, I found this: fax-3.2.tar.Z.

It's on prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu.

: The readme says it supports G3 fax sending/receiving spooling for multiple
: users, and a lot of other interesting things. 
: 
: Has anybody tried to run this under linux? I didn't try because I don't
: have a fax/modex yet (not even a modem, really) because I thought there
: where no drivers for unix and I'd rather not use dos at all.

Apparantly it's for unix.  The current set of fax modems don't need
special drivers - they just take special commands and such.

I'm going to see if it will port easily when I get back on my system.
I'm moving at the moment, and the system's physically unavailable
until the weekend.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/269-8125
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: c3460344@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (C3460344)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: INDEX comments
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:47:58 GMT
Reply-To: c3460344@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

Sounds great to me!  I would love to know what I am downloading before I do 
it.  A few hours at 2400 baud for something I don't need really bites the 
large genitalia.

-=Jeff Blaine
c3460344@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu
From: butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu Linux
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:35:08 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1135]: rex

In article <8eR_8cS00WBFI=I0VM@andrew.cmu.edu> wm0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Wayne P. Myers) writes:
>Is anyone else out there having problems ftp-ing from tsx-11.mit.edu?
>I've been trying to get the newest release of linux, for about two weeks
>now. When I issue the get, or mget command to pull a file/files I get
>tranfer failed. Then when I do an ls I have to do it about three times
>before it shows me anything. Now I've ftp'd from this site in the past
>with no problems, and it works fine if I try it from banjo.concert, but
>I can't find rootimage-0.96c at that site. If there is a problem that
>exists, and will continue to persist at tsx-11.mit can someone give me a
>couple more sites, besides banjo.concert where I can find everything.
>
>Thanks in advance :)
>
>Wayne P. Myers
>(wm0i@andrew.cmu.edu)

I have had this problem on and off for months. It seems execute a
command about two or three commands behind the one you just typed.

Larry (butler@cs.tulane.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: Re: ksh for Linux & olwm for X (do they exist?)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:58:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul28.020712.16700@athena.mit.edu> klaus%eccx.dnet@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com (All you touch & all you see is all your life will ever be.) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I havn't noticed any mention of ksh (korn shell) being available for Linux..Is 
>it?  Is the source code available somewhere if not?
>
>

the PD ksh relies on fileno() being a macro (not true since stream-based stdio)
+ other problems with signal handing and stuff. never tried to fix it.
Any takers?


Zeyd

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: Let's all stop to think for a moment....
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:22:09 GMT

Just think, we have a FREE unix that is as usable as Coherent, and in many
installations, doing nearly as good as a sparcstation.
We have a wonderful c compiler(c++ too...)
We have a GREAT X
we have a lot, for just a years work.

Also, as near as I can tell, Linus has produced the ONLY affordable 32bit OS
for Intel's 'wonderful' chips.  :)




(Now, does anyone think it will run on the alpha?  I hear it reaches as much as
200MHz!  I think that with the right PALcode, it might even work!...???)

Jim Gifford
jim@raskol.attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU ()
Subject: xhetris
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 10:49:07 GMT


   awatts muttered:

>Second: (pretty trivial, but anyhow) I was trying to compile xhextris from
>the contrib area of X11 ftp areas, well, it compiles fine, but (always a but
>isnt there :) I get this error -

[error deleted]

>Thats all the program reports as it exists, i was told that maybe using xset 
>to set the 'fp' to the default would work, but.. I dont have xset. So Two 
>questions, anyone else get Xhextris working, and does anyone have xset? 
>(I have seen neither mentioned for Linux X11)

Ok, i've had a look, the only problem is that the xhextris distribution
I picked up (which is on alot of contrib anon/ftp sites, supports the
.snf fonts styles, for use on SunOS etc machine, whereas linux uses .pcf 
fonts. But the makefile/header.h file do NOT have provision for using the
.pcf fonts apart from some mention of "BDFTOPCF = bdftopcf" blah blah blah.
But, it doesnt actually use the pcf font even when i create it and put it in
the correct place. It still reports that it cant open the font.

Anyone else made it work? 

         Joe

---
joef@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Subject: Re: swap in /etc/fstab
Reply-To: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:38:41 GMT

RFC-822-Headers:
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

==================
   steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de writes
   >
   >
   >    Sorry again,
   >    this should be a FAQ for rootimage-0.96:
   >    how to include the swap space into the fstab file ?
   >    There is no man mount or man swapon on this disk ...
   >    But swapon -a seems to work for many others, so how the fstab is to be
   >    customized ?
   >    (Up to now I used mcc's mount, there was no need for /etc/fstab ...)
   >    thanks a lot,

Thanks to all having responded to my two postings, (dosfs and swap in the
/etc/fstab of root0.96) I now solved this problem
(and will add the answer to my private FAQ collection - as fas as I know,
there are not so much Linux users in Potsdam/Germany now, so I collect my
experiences for them).
Thanks to all working in this GREAT project - maybe some day I will reach
you gurus ;-) Now I fight against the smaller problems ...
Later,
--
Steffen Grunewald | IP : steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de | Phone : (+49)331-310526
GeoForschungsZentrum Potsdam,  Telegrafenberg A3,   O-1561 Potsdam,   Germany
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