HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: I am a fan too...
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: alt.fan.madonna
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:47:43 GMT


I subscribed here cause I thought it was for fans...
Now all I read is lots of unnecessary expetives from those of you who
say you can't stand madonna, but will take so much time to talk about
her...makes me wonder about YOUR mental stability


ahem...anyway, I like her music (most of it), I like her videos (most
of them), I think she is extremely savvy when it comes to marketing
her product (as has been said) and I enjoy the controversy, enjoy most
of her lyrics and think she is extremely sexy (and no I am not a
lesbian or even confused about my sexuality, just a woman who is
secure enough about herself to appreciate the physical beauty of other
women).

Finally, if you don't like her, write a letter to your local
paper...that's where your nonscence belongs.

Just my $0.02

(btw ... you realize don't you that she just want people to REACT...to
THINK...sounds like she got you! ;)

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: ssalimb01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:40:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.145421.11461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rnovak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak) writes:
> 
>>don't you think it might be offensive to other people?  Especially the older
>>generation?  The world belongs to other people as well, and I think since she 
>>has the right to do what she wants, she should have the right to be criticised.
> 
> Remember that your television, along with every (almost every) television
> in the world, and (almost) every radio, has a dial that can be switched,
> or some other tuning device that can be used to select a program that
> Madonna is not on.

Yeah,right.  But just because she is on T.V. and some people have to switch
the channel(off or to other station), no wonder some people hate her guts so 
much.  Poor girl...  (Okay, she is a woman)  

I really can't wait until all the gay/lesbians stand up for their rights after
being "inspired" by Madonna, and have a big clash with the anti gay/lesbian
group.  I know I will watch T.V. and listen to the death toll.

Call me crazy, but if Madonna did cause a big fraction between these two 
opposite groups, she would probably give no #$@&.   Heck, she is the one 
with all the money, wealth and fame.  Us, we get what we want to see, pay 
for it and got stuck with it.  


And finally, I have to tell you again.  I can't wait for the blood bath to
begin.  After all, we get what we see,  right?  

P.S.	All hate mails will be replied.



 Some people are offended by Lawrence Welk, or Johnny
> Mathis, or barbershop harmony, or (don't flame me on this one--just a
> popular opinion) televised religion. That doesn't mean we take them off
> the air. She has the RESPONSIBILITY to take criticism, not the right to be
> criticised. All of us have the RESPONSIBILITY to take responsibility for
> our actions.
> 
>>Personally, I think she is a human being who accomplish a lot in her life time,
>>and should go down in history as a famous artist.  
> 
> Probably. Very few non-famous people go down in history. And there are
> those who say Madonna goes down in history more often, but that's
> another story. =)
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna,misc.test,alt.job.gooley
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: Re: new album
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:40:34 GMT



>Madonna re-invents herself again, this time with S&M imagery.
>Last time it was with gay imagery. Each time she has to push out
>the envelope. What's it going to be next time? Pedophilia
>imagery? What else could it be -- after all it has to be more
>provocative than the last Madonna reincarnation, and she does
>have those long term contracts to fulfill. Perhaps then, the
>"fans" will realize they've been suckered by a smart operator.

Not necessarily...  I don't think any of her fans would ever find themselves
feeling "suckered" since they LIKE her music to begin with.  How is she
"sucker"ing them if they enjoy what she does?

Also...  she might NOT push things way over the edge the next time around...
she may do a complete flip-flop and revert to a very conservative style and
approach to her entertainment.  That too would be a big enough shock for everyone who was expecting the "worst."

Mike
From: franksb@bmdhh155.bnr.ca (Frank Stuart-Brown)
Subject: Re: Is Madonna *Really* a lesso???
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:13:37 GMT

In article <s1070619.721618685@giaeb>, s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
|> 
|> Hey... can anyone tell me. Is madonna really a lesso or bi? Or is it all
|> a marketing ploy to get the homosexual section of the community to buy her
|> goods?
|>     Is she such a good actor that she has you all fooled???

NOPE, but she is one hell of an astute business woman who has suckered you all!!
That includes me, 'cause I would love to be with her and her *mate*.
From: kristinw@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: SEX! and Madonna
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:30:02 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <Bx93JE.28M@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, summerem@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Erick M. Summers) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.222804.60404@cc.usu.edu> kristinw@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>  I define pornography as any picture of a nude man or woman that is meant
>>to sexually arouse or has anything to do with sex. 
>>  It only makes it more  difficult to teach children the proper morals
>>they need.  The only reason why you both support it is because you are avid
>>readers of pornographic material, otherwise, how could you compare the pictures
>>with Penthouse and Playboy?  Shame on you both.> 
> 
> You define pornography as any picture of a nude man or woman having anything
> to do with sex.  But then you don't consider Penthouse, Playboy, etc. as
> pornographic.  How is this possible?  I think you are contradicting yourself
> here.

I don't think so.  I said any picture of a man or woman that is meant to
sexually arouse or has anything to do with sex.
Am I to believe that subscribers to Playboy and Penthouse only read it for the
articles????  Come on; wake up!!!  They get off on looking at the pictures!!!D> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * Erick M. Summers                                      ========           *
> * (summers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu)                        ///   //           *
> * (summerem@expert.cc.purdue.edu)                      ///====             *
> *                                                     ///                  *
> * "The best way to hit the curve ball               =====                  *
> *  is to hit the fast ball."                     PIRANHA ATHLETICS         *
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Spooner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:02:44 GMT
Organization: Badges . . . We don't need no stinking badges.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Spooner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lockheedmac6.larc.nasa.gov

> 	And this time spell "Marilyn" correctly.

OK

________________________________________________        
        If we were not crazy, we would go insane.
        If we could not laugh, we would go insane!     J. Buffett
________________________________________________
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: Re: Well...*I* like Madonna
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:36:30 GMT

carlson@horus.cs.odu.edu (Gary Scott Carlson) writes:

>   >Great, a newsgroup appears about Madonna, and everyone rags on her.
>   >Well, I'll admit it, I *like* Madonna. I like her videos, I like her
>   >music, and I even sometimes like the way she looks.
>   >
>   Ditto for me. I signed up for this newsgroup because I am a fan. Hence, the
>   name of the newsgroup...alt.FAN.madonna.  Non-fans should now go away.
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ah, but as all you madonna geeks keep pointing out... We all have the right to
do what we want. We have the right to critisize her just as much as you
have the right to blow sunshine up her ass...
    So, this is one non-fan  who will not go away.

        I still hate madonna.


     ***************************************************************************
    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
 * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: jasonk@microsoft.com (Jason Katsanis)
Subject: Madonna and Child
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:12:30 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: alt.fan.madonna

Don't you just love that picture rapheal
did with Madonna holding the baby jesus?

Question is, she seems to wearing this funny
disk on her head.  I've never seen her 
wearing this in concert.  Can anyone shed any
light on this?

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:02:32 GMT

ssalimb01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>In article <1992Nov3.145421.11461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rnovak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak) writes:
>>
>>>don't you think it might be offensive to other people?  Especially the older
>>>generation?  The world belongs to other people as well, and I think since she
>>>has the right to do what she wants, she should have the right to be criticised.
>>
>> Remember that your television, along with every (almost every) television
>> in the world, and (almost) every radio, has a dial that can be switched,
>> or some other tuning device that can be used to select a program that
>> Madonna is not on.

>Yeah,right.  But just because she is on T.V. and some people have to switch
>the channel(off or to other station), no wonder some people hate her guts so
>much.  Poor girl...  (Okay, she is a woman)

>I really can't wait until all the gay/lesbians stand up for their rights after
>being "inspired" by Madonna, and have a big clash with the anti gay/lesbian
>group.  I know I will watch T.V. and listen to the death toll.
    Amen. If god had intended us to homosexual, he would have given us all a
    penis, and vagina each.

>Call me crazy, but if Madonna did cause a big fraction between these two
>opposite groups, she would probably give no #$@&.   Heck, she is the one
>with all the money, wealth and fame.  Us, we get what we want to see, pay
>for it and got stuck with it.
    True. She is doing everything she can to sell, sell, sell, and make money,
    and if the truth be known, she probably would not care if all the
    homosexuals were killed. If that were to happed, she would just find
    another angle on the market, and go for that.


>And finally, I have to tell you again.  I can't wait for the blood bath to
>begin.  After all, we get what we see,  right?
    I'll bring the pop-corn, if you provide the tv...

>P.S.	All hate mails will be replied.
    Amen to that too.



    Me again...


     ***************************************************************************
    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
 * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
***************************************************************************

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: troye@cs.mcgill.ca (Troy ENGLISH)
Subject: Re: Well...*I* like Madonna
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:16:52 GMT

In article <s1070619.721316190@giaeb> s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>carlson@horus.cs.odu.edu (Gary Scott Carlson) writes:
>
>>   >Great, a newsgroup appears about Madonna, and everyone rags on her.
>>   >Well, I'll admit it, I *like* Madonna. I like her videos, I like her
>>   >music, and I even sometimes like the way she looks.
>>   >
>>   Ditto for me. I signed up for this newsgroup because I am a fan. Hence, the
>>   name of the newsgroup...alt.FAN.madonna.  Non-fans should now go away.
>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Ah, but as all you madonna geeks keep pointing out... We all have the right to
>do what we want. We have the right to critisize her just as much as you
>have the right to blow sunshine up her ass...
>    So, this is one non-fan  who will not go away.
>
>        I still hate madonna.
>

Actually I couldn't care less what you think about madonna, however....
most of your posts are so homophobic and rude that I wish you would shut
up so the rest of us wouldn't have to read your mindless hatred.

>
>     ***************************************************************************
>    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
>   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
>  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
> * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
>***************************************************************************

True, the errors in your 'preaching' aren't a sign of your stupidity however
the content is.

-- 
*****************************************************************
--Your naive idiocy makes me very angry -- Job (The Lawnmower man)
"I want to lie Shipwrecked and comatose, drinking fresh mango juice"
--Part of Themesong to Red Dwarf
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu)
Subject: Re: Well...*I* like Madonna
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Oct28.183912.9322@math.utexas.edu>
	<CARLSON.92Nov7084230@horus.cs.odu.edu> <s1070619.721316190@giaeb>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:22:35 GMT

In article <s1070619.721316190@giaeb> s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>
>  carlson@horus.cs.odu.edu (Gary Scott Carlson) writes:
>
>  >   >Great, a newsgroup appears about Madonna, and everyone rags on her.
>  >   >Well, I'll admit it, I *like* Madonna. I like her videos, I like her
>  >   >music, and I even sometimes like the way she looks.
>  >   >
>  >   Ditto for me. I signed up for this newsgroup because I am a fan. Hence, the
>  >   name of the newsgroup...alt.FAN.madonna.  Non-fans should now go away.
>						 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  Ah, but as all you madonna geeks keep pointing out... We all have the right
                              ^^^^^ Take it easy, dude.
>  to
>  do what we want. We have the right to critisize her just as much as you
>  have the right to blow sunshine up her ass...
>      So, this is one non-fan  who will not go away.
>
>	   I still hate madonna.
>
>
>	***************************************************************************
>      * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
>     * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
>    * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
>   * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
>  ***************************************************************************

Go ahead, stay on the group if you like.  I, for one, don't really mind.
Actually, I'm somewhat fascinated by your decision to keep contributing
here despite being a non-fan.  Why?

If you stay around, please cut the name-calling.  I've done my level best
to avoid doing so and urge both fans and non-fans to do the same.
It reflects on you more than anything else (remember that calling
Clinton a "bozo" and Gore "ozone man" hurt Bush badly in the election).
Thanks... and keep posting!

Thomas Wu
Internet:  tjwu@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: hyde@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Hyde)
Subject: Re: GETTING HER BOOK CHEAP $$$
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:19:09 GMT

funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.200733.4628@dragon.acadiau.ca> 901430w@dragon.acadiau.ca (Kevin Wayte) writes:
>>
>>The answer was so brilliant and simple we had the book by the next 
>>morning !!!   Read on :
>>
>>Simply get 10 - 20 people together and POOL YOUR MONEY to buy one
>>copy of the book for all of you (and exclusive to the group).
>>
>Not inteded to be a flame, but if you didn't mind having the book
>shared among a lot of people, why didn't you just borrow it from
>the public library for free?

>-- 
>Alex (funga@ecf.toronto.edu)

Our public library in the extremely (new to me...) conservative town of Omaha
replied that the book 'Sex' had not been budgeted for and they didn't know if 
it would.  We had a similar idea, as the original 'pool' and that was this:
#1) Get about 7 or 8 people to pitch in $5.00 each (someone said they can get
it SOMEWHERE for $35.00 + tax...).
#2) Share it, letting each donator get it for a week....
#3) When done, DONATE it to the library and see if they would have the guts
to actually put it on the public shelves! 

Comments?? E-mail me cuz I stumbled upon this group on accident and prolly 
won't look here for replies...

Credits go to my co-workers Bill G. and Wally M. (Wally is the brains of this
maligned outfit) for this ingenious experiment.  

I can't believe the Omaha Public Library would not budget this sure best seller
unless they got wind of the poor binding that I heard about before hand...


Oh well, San Francisco this ain't! ;)

-Don Hyde
hyde@cwis.unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu)
Subject: Re: NAME
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<BxH1FM.4F7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <s1070619.721618409@giaeb>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:47:20 GMT

In article <s1070619.721618409@giaeb> s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>
>  >Correction, it's Veronica Louise Ciccone.  If anyone knows where she
>  >got the name MADONNA, please post !!
>
>      Probably looked for the name that *LEAST* represented her.

No.  As somebody else pointed out, Madonna was her mother's name.
This group needs a FAQ...

Thomas Wu
Internet:  tjwu@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: ward0038@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Well...*I* like Madonna
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:33:25 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: tammy@b8.b8.ingr.com (Tammy Hurt)
Subject: madonna
Keywords: mailing list
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:42:08 GMT




please take me off the mailing list from HELL......

thanks 
tammy jo

Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
From: ardalan@astrosun.aero.org (Shadan M. Ardalan)
Subject: Re: gifs
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:14:23 GMT

In article <92315.121034IO71245@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Matt <IO71245@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>Can someone send me the maddona gifs that were recently posted
>they disappeared right before I had a chance to grab them..:(
>              Thanks Matt

Ditto.....

Thanks in advance,
Shadan
From: theodore-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Theodore)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.madonna
Subject: Re: I wanna do her over...
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:08:10 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: zoo-gw.cs.yale.edu

In article <s1070619.721303352@giaeb> s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT) writes:
>ssalimb01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov3.145421.11461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rnovak@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert Novak) writes:
>>I really can't wait until all the gay/lesbians stand up for their rights after
>>being "inspired" by Madonna, and have a big clash with the anti gay/lesbian
>>group.  I know I will watch T.V. and listen to the death toll.

>    Amen. If god had intended us to homosexual, he would have given us all a
>    penis, and vagina each.
>
Wow - I missed this one the first time around. I recently called upon this
not particularly intelligent shit-head  to just admit that he hates
gay people. I didn't realize that he already has. His "amen" acknowledges
that he would also like to see gay people killed. Now, why (besides
sheer ignorance and stupidity) would someone have so much hatred towards
people because of their sexual preference?  He could be a religous
fanatic (he does invoke the god argument after all). I have another theory -
He can't deal with his own attraction to men. In particular, he's attracted
to his other, also outwardly homophobic friend who also posts here. They
can't deal with their attraction to each other so they both post childish
statements of overblown hatred here in a futile attempt to repress their 
longing for sexual fulfillment in each other.
 >
>     ***************************************************************************
>    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
>   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
>  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
> * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
>***************************************************************************
If you weren't insecure about your sexuality you wouldn't feel the need to 
have some comment about "fast women" in your .sig. Also, we don't need
the numerous errors and semi-literacy to detect your painfully obvious
stupidity.


-- 
God's beard drips frothy chaos .............
		theodore-michael@yale.edu