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From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: SyQuest and Apple DMA SCSI card
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:55:54 GMT

>From: slhood@bluemoon.use.com (Stephen L. Hood)
>Subject: SyQuest and Apple DMA SCSI card
 
>I have an Apple DMA SCSI card in my ROM 01 IIGS.  I am using a SyQuest 44
>megabyte removable hard drive and a Quantum 85 megabyte hard drive with
>this card.  After several severe headaches, I was able to get both drives
>working together (and with the proper partition booting first) by manually
>yanking all internal resistors and terminating the chain externally.  The
>system now boots the Quantum 85 properly.
 
Steve,
  I've got a similar setup, 44 MB SyQuest and 40 MB Quantum ProDrive. Each
drive worked seperately with their interal terminators. Strange thing is that
daisy-chained with the last one externally terminated (internal term removed),
they only work in one order. In the other order, the system is very flaky,
indicating termination problems.
 
>ProDOS 8 hangs if Syquest has no cart.
 
I have the same problem. It doesn't happen if the Syquest is off, which is
usually the case for me. For what its worth, I reported this to
apple.bugs@applelink.apple.com as a ProDOS 8 bug.
 
 
>2.  From GS/OS, it usually takes two to three tries before the GS
>recognizes an inserted cartridge.  Since inserting a cartridge and waiting
>for it to spin up to speed takes over 15 seconds, this gets to be
 
The only GS/OS problem I have is that a cart must be in during boot for the
drive to be recognized. Insertions and ejections are recognized immediately
provided the drive is being polled, as in Finder, Standard File dialogs, and
new apps that call HandleDiskInsert in their event loop.
 
>I'm pretty sure this is the fault of the Apple DMA SCSI card, which I know
>isn't exactly the best at handling removable media.  My question, then, is
 
The Rev C card had problems with removable media, but the DMA card is supposed
to have fixed them.
 
>is there a GS/OS driver available for the SyQuest and the DMA SCSI
 
I think not.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Foundation & ScriptEdit
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:51:31 GMT
Organization: BBS

Marc,
 
After using Genesys and now Foundation ( v1.0b7 ), I notice that you're trying
to make Foundation different here and there ( to keep troubles away? ).  Most
notably you start with SciptEdit first before graphics editors.
 
One thing that's _very_ annoying in Foundation right now is, the main window.
While it's nice to be able to edit up to 4 resource files/forks at a time, you
should make the main window like ( or similar to ) Genesys.  That is, 2 list
controls.  Right now, if I want to edit any particular resource, Foundation
would have to open a new window, which is much slower than just updating the
list ( like in Genesys ).  Please keep the old Genesys style.  Also, make the
list longer; less scrolling :)
 
Please hurry up with the native editors.
 
frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: how do I delete file comments?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:16:24 GMT

In article <m0ms6X0-0000oAC@crash.cts.com> sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett) writes:
> Re: problems in copying a file with an extended resource fork.
> 
> Well, if you used Copy II+, you should have solved the problem.  If I remember
> correctly, Copy II+ does a number of things in ways against the rules, and one
> of them causes it to completely ignore the resource fork of files, so using
> Copy II+ should have stripped the resource fork (with the comment in) off the
> file.

You remember wrong.  Attempting to copy a file with a resource fork
using Copy II+ 8.4 and earlier will result in a completely unusable
destination file.  It treats the extended key block as an index
block, and usually ends up copying a random collection of blocks from
the file and elsewhere on the disk.

Version 9.0 and 9.1 report an error if you try to copy a file with a
resource fork.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FOR SALE!!!!!!
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:07:33 PST
Organization: BBS

$3643??  For that setup?

I tried to sell my GS about 18 month ago with the setup of...

ROM 01 ( w/keyboard, mouse )
4mb
RamFAST rev. C
105mb Quantum
PC Transporter
Audio Animator
ImageWriter II
and softwares...

for $2200.

No one called at all, except a lady asked "does it run Mac applications?"

Besides, you're pricing it as new.  Once I felt like you, I felt that used
items should have 80% of its values...

For $3642, you can get a NeXTstation and it comes with a bundle of softwares. 
Or, you can get a NEW loaded Mac IIci...

Good luck buddy.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (James David Wong)
Subject: Re: SyQuest and HFS FST
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:46:27 GMT

In article <9211180616.AA16897@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca>, 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
|> The following revelation escaped Bob Hayosh's lips:
|> >
|> > Has any one used a SyQuest with both a Mac and a IIGS?
|> >
|> > I wanted to use my SyQuest with both a Mac and my GS but
|> > when I tried it (Finally got Sys6.0 up and running...) I found out
|> > that GS/OS won't read (Mac formated) HFS SyQuest carts.  GS formated
|> > HFS carts can't be read by the Mac either.
|> 
|>     Since Syquests have a SCSI partition map, I assume the problem is
|> the same one preventing an HFS hard disk formatted on a GS from working
|> on a Mac.  You need some sort of special partition with Mac-specific
|> data for it to be recognized.  The GS doesn't need it (and doesn't put
|> it on).  The reverse may also be a problem:  the Mac partition confuses
|> GS/OS somehow.

Specifically, the Mac stores a driver for the cartridge on the cartridge
itself.  If it can't find a driver, it won't automatically mount
the cartridge.

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:14:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.722063696

Yo, guys!  If you read what I said carefully, I said that I _do not_
expect any major revisions to the SSW, but that I've never heard Apple say
there wouldn't be any.  I never said that Apple _would_ release major
changes.

So, _please_ stop emailing me to correct a mistake which never existed.
It's true that I've never heard that from Apple - just from lots of people
who like to send email saying that there won't be major new SSW releases.
:)

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: Hard Drives for Apple IIGS
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:33:11 GMT


m: <AUJGH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
>Subject: Re: Hard Drives for Apple IIGS

 >Powering a quantum (or possibly any) hard drive off your disk >port can be
>detrimental to a stock power supply.  After a few months mine
>refused to give the drive enough power to start up.
> Now i have a heavy duty supply and i could actually use the old 
>supply to run the drive if i could find the right connector for the 
>drive.

True, powering a hard drive off the floppy port can run down the power supply, but that is _not_ the normal method of powering hard drives. Most have their own power supplies. I've seen a number of anti-recommendations for the floppy port-powered hard drives.

 -Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: how to scroll in a TextEdit control?
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:38:05 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Nov17.175534.1057@tamsun.tamu.edu> j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu (Jason Perez) writes:
>[...]
>i'm not using TaskMaster to control the record because i am going to have
>multiple fonts/styles/sizes and i didn't think i could do this with
>TaskMaster. though i am using TaskMaster for everything else .  what i need
>is way to know when i'm at the bottom of the window so i can scroll up.  it
>looks like i'll have to keep a manual count of which line i'm on to figure
>it out.

Try using the "cachSelcVPos" and "cachSelHPos" fields in the Text Edit
record.  They tell you the last vertical and horizontal position at
which TE drew your insertion point. -- If that position is outside your
window's portRect (at some point between StartDrawing and SetOrigin(0,0),
when your window's port's origin reflects the scroll bar settings), then
you need to scroll your stuff, using SetContentOrigin on your window
(not using TEScroll).

There is no conflict with using multiple fonts in your TE control and
also using TaskMaster.
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: agrden@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Many Monitors???
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:19:33 GMT
Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University

I have had a bit of a play around with JumboDesk nda.  It is OK but it raises a
broader question inmy mind.   Is it possible to make it into a mac like
multi-monitor display.  You know ... have the spreadsheet over two monitors and
so-on ...


Any answers?


Thanks

Kevin
From: astein@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:26:36 GMT
Organization: Claremont McKenna College

In article <uerics.721932539@mcl>, uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
> Where did you get the "news" that there would be no new major System
> Software releases?  I've never heard Apple say that (I don't expect them,
> but I've never heard Apple say there wouldn't be any).
> 
> - Eric S.
> 
> --
> Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
> InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
> FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
> AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."

    Apple told those of us who attended this year's KansasFest that it expected
to release no more major System Software updates for the Apple IIGS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Re: Gif to apple?
Keywords: bin files
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:51:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.053213.8070@eskimo.com> lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel) writes:
>
>Hawk - suggest your friend try SuperConvert from Seven Hills, or 
>DreamGrafix from Dream World Software.  Superconvert is primarily
>a conversion program (VERY GOOD), while DreamGrafix is primarily
>an art program that can read GIF files and save them in Apple format.

	Actually, DreamGrafix doesn't directly support loading GIFs,
it could be a future external command, but at the moment there are
other projects that requires the development time.


Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: how do I delete file comments?
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:16:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Nov 11 92 at 19:01:25 (EST)

Re: problems in copying a file with an extended resource fork.

Well, if you used Copy II+, you should have solved the problem.  If I remember
correctly, Copy II+ does a number of things in ways against the rules, and one
of them causes it to completely ignore the resource fork of files, so using
Copy II+ should have stripped the resource fork (with the comment in) off the
file.

Notice I don't say that this is a *good* way to get rid of the resource fork,
so if you later have problems with the file, this may have something to do
with it...

It's a good idea to make sure that you only use Copy II+ on files that *don't*
have resource forks, for this very reason...  I tend to be quite sparing in my
use of Copy II+ these days, though it was really an outstanding piece of work
when it first came out; Central Point just didn't keep up with the Apple II
market unfortunately...
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From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:02:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Nov18.120214.14304
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <Af2Fliq00WBLI2Sa8S@andrew.cmu.edu>, by24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin S. Yu) writes:
> ....... (and
> not a Mac and II in one box design to switch people to Mac, though it
> would be great to have dual processor when the software takes advantage
> of it, that what should ahve done years ago)

Isn't that what the LC is? (And with the LC III coming out, it would make a 
nice fast machines for schools.

> .....  Apple will never sell the
> rights to the II, it would still be a threat to Macs...

And what world are you living in? The reason Apple would never sell the 
rights to the II is because they're Apple. Apple is slowly realizing that 
the II is a dead end, and the only reason they are still producing them is 
for the educational market. Because schools can't afford to upgrade (at 
least the ones in rural communities), they are stuck with their IIs. Here 
at Miami, everyone I talk to had mostly IBMs, and some had Macs in school.
My school had several IIs for students and teachers to use, but for class
instruction they had a lab of Acorns. (Which were really nice, I was amazed
at the capabilities back in '85). 

Does anyone know the actual sales figure of IIs for the past year? (And not 
some number that you think is right!!  :-)

Later.......

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Apple //GS with video overlay card
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:22:20 GMT

In article <8PBiuB1w165w@cibbs.UUCP> uunorth!cibbs!jblass writes:
> I need to know something about the Apple // Video Overlay Card. 
>  Is it possible for the card to interface with the Fingerprint GS. it 
>that if you have a video running and you then push the Fingerprint button 
>, Will it take a snapshot of the video or the graphics behind the video 
>at that time..????

This is a wild guess, but I would say NO, the video image would probably
not show up in the FingerPrint screen capture.  The Video Overlay Card
simply shines it's image through a certain color in your 16-color palette.
The FingerPrint would intercept the SHR display, but not the video
enchancement from the VOC.
-- 
 __                                                                        __
(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__
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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: .bxy?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:14:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721854898

The .bxy suffix refers to a NuFX (ShrinkIt) file which has a Binary II
wrapper on it.  .bny refers to unshrunk Binary II format files.

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ATTENTION high speed modem users: addendum to previous article
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:16:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Nov 18 92 at 03:03:44 (EST)

To: All

I'd like to add that not ALL TI buffer chips are defective for CTS tracking.

TI chips with 749 X on the first line after the TI insignia seems to work. 
The TI that Brendan tested was 614 X (or close to that number).  The numbers
may be dates they were manufactured.  614 = 198(6) 14th week, 749 = 198(7)
49th week.  The numbers are from memory, but one of the was definitely 6 and
the one that did work started with a 7.
  
INET: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com
UUCP: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf
ARPA: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf@nosc.mil
 AOL: Tae GS       
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: A+/InCider article:  ACK!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:19:43 GMT

In article <BxtLqB.BLH@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
>
>To: Stephen L. Hood
>RE: inCider's Bridging the Gap
>
>But, Stephen, did you read the last paragraph of the article? It says
>"You're looking at the last installment of Bridging The Gap".

I wonder why? I'm sure you've read the articles. They are written for a very,
very,...basic audience. The information content in the networking and 
AFE, et al was so low that I'm surprised it lasted this long. How much
knowledge does it take to get a Phonenet connector, to realize that there
are Appletalk networks, etc...That column was an insult to any systems'
administrator of a school computer system. With some exceptions, the people
writing for inCider seem to be uninformed when it comes to both platforms.
There are enough Mac magazines floating around with intelligent articles
on networking, etc...One doesn't go to inCider to learn about this sort of
thing. I'm not trying to put it down, but it's hard not to admit that the
level of information of inCider was very, very low. 
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mdc@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mark D. Crimmins)
Subject: WANTED: Word-Perfect for IIe
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:31:32 GMT

Hi,

I've had a couple of kind suggestions that I should look for Word
Perfect for the IIe/c as the best word processor available.  I am
willing to pay reasonable dollars for the beast if anyone has it
around.  Is it still commercially available?  Any suggestions for how
I can get my hands on it would be very much appreciated.

BTW, greetings to all old applers who were in this group back in '85,
when I last posted contributions (a patch to use the regular kermit
with a mouse for remote editing in emacs, vi, or xedit,  a mouse-based
ram-disk slector, and a few other scraps, as I recall)!  Anyone still
around?

Mark

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: Many Monitors???
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:29:13 GMT

jsimmons@cs.sunysb.edu (Jason Simmons) writes:

>>I have had a bit of a play around with JumboDesk nda.  It is OK but it raises
>>a broader question inmy mind.   Is it possible to make it into a mac like
>>multi-monitor display.  You know ... have the spreadsheet over two monitors
>>and so-on ...

>I do not know of a way to connect multiple monitors to a GS or what changes
>in JumboDesk would be necessary to support this feature.

It's currently impossible because Quickdraw only supports the two IIgs
Graphics modes.  You'd have to rewrite Quickdraw II, QD Aux, and parts
of other toolsets.  You'd also need a video card of some sort.

Of course, you _can_ hook up two monitors to your GS quite easily, but
they will both display the same image.  You can hook up an RGB and a
composite monitor (B/W or color) to the same GS since there are two
video connectors on the back.  Not extremely useful, but I've done
it.
-- 
Jerry Penner   jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca   Try a 1-line .sig today.
From: EWING@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU (Rick Ewing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Fully populating an OctoRAM card (Q)
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:33:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have just received 4 megs of DRAM from a Quadra 950 which will no longer
be needing them.  I have attempted to put them into the last 4 rows of
my OctoRAM card (R.I.P MDIdeas) and have the set proper jumpers for 8
meg operation.  Yet my GS refuses to boot properly anymore (it just starts
and then dumps to the monitor early on) even though it thinks it
has 8 megs o' RAM in the RAM disk CDA.  The built in memory test
seems to think everything is okay, but I have no way of knowing that
its going after the upper RAM in the test.  I know people have put 8 megs
into GS's before, but I can't!  The memory is the 1 Meg x 2 style which
means that only 2 chips are on the SIMM boards, unlike the existing
ones that are 1 x 8's.  TYpically, I wouldn't expect this to be a problem,
but who knows?  Does anyone out there have an idea on what could be
wrong here?  I have reseated the memory three times with no success.

--Rick Ewing
  Vanderbilt University