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From: rob@cwi.nl (Rob van Rooijen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: results group D
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:23:19 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam



# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group D
=======

Sweden - Paraguay  0-0

Morocco - South Korea  1-1
64. Bahja 1-0
73. Chung 1-1
Yellow cards: Samadi, Raghib (Mor)

                 # W D L  P   F A
                 ================
Morocco          1 0 1 0  1   1-1
South Korea      1 0 1 0  1   1-1
Sweden           1 0 1 0  1   0-0
Paraguay         1 0 1 0  1   0-0

remaining matches:

28-7  Sweden - Morocco
28-7  Paraguay - South Korea
30-7  Sweden - South Korea
30-7  Paraguay - Morocco


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.british
From: ajc@philabs.philips.com (Alec Cameron)
Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:45:27 GMT

In article <Bs1ntL.25u@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>Why is there only one British Olymipic team?
>This is not a stupid question, as the UK/GB does not normally 
>have a single team in cricket, football, rugby and probably various
>other sports.
>
>   Instead there are separate teams for England, Scotland, Wales and
>Northern Ireland.   So why did these four countries decide to have
>one team for the olympics, why not one olympic association each and 
>so one team each.
>
>   In the Commonwealth Games the Isle of Man, Jersey, and Guernsey each
>had their own teams.  Do they compete as part of the British team in 
>the Olympics?
>
>   What exactly is the name the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and 
>Northern Ireland" competes under in the Commonwealth and Olympic Games?
>Is it Great Britain or United Kingdom?

There is only one British Olympic team because they are only one
country.  The Olympic Games are more faithful to the commonly accepted
definition of a country (something like a seat at the UN,
international recognition, etc) than the other sports.
I believe in the World Cup Soccer, there were questions
raised at some stage as to why there were multiple GB teams.  I think
they were able to justify it as the status quo and that as England had
won the Cup in 1966 they were good enough to compete in their own
right.  There is only one GB team in cricket.  It's called England,
but a good enough player from Glamorgan (sp?) can still be selected.
If anyone in Scotland was good enough to play Test cricket I expect
they'd be selected for England too.  (Corrections welcome.)

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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: Results Pool C
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:48:01 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group C
=======

Spain - Colombia  4-0
Qatar - Egypt  1-0

Colombia - Qatar 1-1
Spain - Egypt 2-0


29-7

Colombia - Egypt 3-4
 9. Gaviria 1-0
14. Pacheco 2-0
27. Abdelrazik 2-1
47. El Masry 2-2
84. Gaviria 3-2
87. Khashaba 3-3
90. Khashaba 3-4
Yellow cards: Asprilla, Samta (Col), Elnoamany, Abdelrazik,
Ibrahim (Egy).

Spain - Qatar 2-0
41. Perez 1-0
80 Narvaez 2-0
Yellow cards: Ferrer, Villabone (Sp), Al-Obaidly, Al-Attaya,
Al-Kuwari (Qat).
Red card: Al-Kuwari (Qat).

Final positions:

                   # W D L  P   F A
                   ================
>>Spain            3 3 0 0  6   8-0
>>Qatar            3 1 1 1  3   2-3

  Egypt            3 1 0 2  2   4-6
  Colombia         3 0 1 2  1   4-9

Spain and Qatar play in quarterfinal matches.
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From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Subject: Re: Men's Basketball - Munich '72
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:02:51 GMT

According to NBC:

1. There are three seconds left as the American player sinks his free
throws.  The Soviet coaches try to call a time-out, but two seconds tick
off before the referee stops the clock.  After the time out, the Soviets
inbound the ball with :01 left, fail to score, and the Americans believe
that they have won.

2. The official from the stands points out that the Soviets should have had
three seconds to try to score, not just one, because the Soviets really
called time-out when there were three seconds left.  They order three
seconds put back on the clock.  Unfortunately, for some strange reason, the
referee gives the Soviet inbounder the ball before the clock was reset (it
was an old-fashioned scoreboard and they were counting down to :03 from one
minute).  The Soviets inbound the ball, fail to score, and the Americans
believe they have won.

3. The officials contend that because there was not three seconds on the
clock, the Soviets did not get a fair chance to score.  Three seconds are
put on the clock as originally ordered.  The Soviets inbound the ball, get
it right this time, and the Americans cannot believe that they have not won.

Both replays were caused by referee incompetence.  If they had stopped the
clock when the Soviets called time out, or if they had waited until the
clock was really reset before putting the ball in play, there would have
been no replay.  One hates to see a referee's call at the end of the game
messing things up, but one has to realize that there are forty minutes in a
game, not just three seconds.  Would anyone be talking about controversy
if this replay confusion had happened at the end of the first half and the
Soviets had won by one point at the end?  Maybe some, but not as many.
More importantly, if the United States team were so wonderful and so
absolutely deserving of the gold, the game would not have been so close in
the first place.  The Dream Team would have withstood 50 replays and still
won.  The same thing is happening this year: if the US volleyball team
weren't playing like "dogmeat" (a US player's opinion, not just mine),
they would not have been in such a close match with Japan and the red card
would not have mattered, whether it happened at the end of the match or
not.  Referee error is, sadly, a part of all sports, and the only way to
overcome it is to beat your opponent so convincingly that it won't matter.
If two teams are so closely matched that a referee's decision happens to
decide the final point of a game, neither team should say that they
absolutely "deserved" to win.  This is true of both the '72 basketball team
and the '92 volleyball team.

Just my opinion,
ecw
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From: bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat)
Subject: Re: Barkley is a jerk...
Keywords: Barkley
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:56:58 GMT

In article <val.712212490@marsh> val@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Valerie Hall) writes:
>What is Charles Barkleys problem.
>
>They're up 40-odd to 11 against Angola in their opening basketball match.
>Barkley is headed to the basket with another layup, with only token defense on him which backs off in the end and lets him have the easy score.
>
>Barkly turns around and as he runs past the Angolan, elbows him with great force in the chest.
>
>That was almost a king-hit. Very cowardly and stupid. What was he trying to 
>prove? He should have been sent off right then and there. There was no need
>for such and act of naked aggression against the poor Angolan fellow.
>

The "Dream Team" can get away with anything and everything. Pack a bunch
of jerks with oversized egos into a team, and what else will you get?
Bull shit!

Dinkar
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-W's 100m Butterfly Heat 1
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:24:30 GMT

   Women's 100 metres butterfly
   Heat 1
 1.  Anja Margetic (Bosnia)               1 minute 06.26 seconds
 2.  Sharon Pickering (Fiji)                  1:06.35
 3.  Monica Dahl (Namibia)                     1:06.58
 4.  Ana Fortin Pineda (Honduras)          1:07.94
 5.  Elsa Vicente Freire (Angola)                   1:10.17
 6.  Mariza Gregorio (Mozambique)                   1:10.27

Rod Swift
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From: evan@vifp.monash.edu.au (Evan Vernon-Roberts - Registrar)
Subject: Re: Barkley is a jerk...
Originator: news@brain
Reply-To: evan@vifp.monash.edu.au
Organization: Victorian Institute of Forensic Pathology, Australia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:12:03 GMT


Barkley has no understanding of sportsmanship, or of the Olympic ideal - both unfashionable concepts today.  If he wishes to be really treasured as the fine
 athlete that he could be, he has to more than win, he has to win in the way
that other athletes in the same team can, and have - Jordan and Magic for
example.  In Australia we play two of the toughest contact sports in the world
- Rugby league, and Aussie Rules - but are still able to venerate real hero's.
Tough hard players who are FAIR.  We even have an award in one code for the
"best and fairest" from which people are disqualified if they have committed even fairly minor code violations.  This may seem a bit wishy washy, and not live up 
an ideal of winning, but it is pathetic that the Olympics allow these jumped up
professionals to behave as they have.  This is not supposed to be for "stars",
but for everyone, including Angola.  Even worse than Barkley's acts, were his 
comments before the match, and his apparent contempt for the Angolan's.  And as
for the other jerk in the team who said they were not there to make friends, but
to win gold - of course you will win, and probably without raising a sweat.  You 
have my admiration as a technician, but as an athlete you are the pits.  Its 
fools like you that give top level sports people a bad name.

Evan	:-(
From: news@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Shame on Wendy Lian Williams
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:33:11 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL

In my opinion, she saw one side of the real part of Asians.
The asian cultures as well as chinese culture are not 
familiar with how to express their feelings on face.
For example on Campus most foreign student (Yes, most not all of them) tend to
have no emotional faces when they work around. Meanwhile the most ameicanized
students givce smils so easily even to the man whom he have never seen before.
So I can understand why she has  such an impression on the Asians and has the
concept about the meaning of the westernized. 
Therefore she might be true partially, although it is not always true.
Statistically saying, the American-American people show more gesture than
the orhters. This is what I have felt since I came to USA to study 6 years
ago.
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From: van@seurat.wustl.edu (Van Vo)
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:04:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.125010.5430@uc.msc.edu> jayers@hamline.edu (Judi  
Ayers) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.211649.5089@wuecl.wustl.edu> van@seurat.wustl.edu  
(Van Vo) writes:
> >*STUFF DELETED**
> >As for the TripleCast complaints and the argument that getting the TC  
is
> >a vote for rampant capitalism, you are missing simple capitalism.  You
> >don't have a RIGHT to get free TV.  Someone has to pay for a broadcast,
> >and I, as an advertising executive would not buy a second of  
advertising
> >for the middle of a marathon.  
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^  
> You would if you lived in Australia, where they seem to be fair to all
> sports and not just a few!!!
> 
> >So if you want to watch the marathon, you
> >will simply have to pay for it.  If you love marathons enough, more  
than
> >x dollars, then you'll be willing to pay x dollars for it.  If you  
don't
> >like marathons that much, then DON'T BUY IT and DON'T COMPLAIN.
> 
> DON'T I WISH I COULD *BUY* CABLE TO WATCH THE MARATHON!!!!  I can't even
> do that.  They are NOT showing the Women's marathon, so YES I AM  
COMPLAINING!!
> My letter to NBC shall go out in the next few days!
> 
> Judi Ayers
> jayers@hamline.edu

Sorry about picking on marathons.  I just wanted a sample, less popular
spectator sport, to fill in the blank and I had just read your posting.
I guess I should have used field hockey...OOPS!

Van Vo

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From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: SOCCER: Results Pool B
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:26:32 GMT

In article <6830@charon.cwi.nl> wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop) writes:
>
>Mexico - Australia  1-1
>20.  Arambasic 0-1
      ~~~~~~~~~
>62.  Castaneda 1-1

And the only Australian scorer against Ghana was Vidmar. Hey, are Croatians
and Slovenians the only people in Australia that play soccer?

Sven (a Croat, not a Swede!)

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From: cluck@pollux.usc.edu (Carlos L. Luck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Basketball standings, medal count.
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:11:52 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


In a recent post, somebody mentioned that the game Brazil vs Spain was
under way, but the final score never came. Could anybody post the results
and the current standings of both pools.

Also, very little attention has been given to the standings of the other
group competitions, such as women basketball, men and women volleyball, etc.
Needless to say that the midia ignores it entirely.
The net (and me in particular) would appreciate such updates.

Now a comment regarding the medal overall count. As far as I know, group sports
count as a single medal each and it takes two weeks and the combined effort of
several athletes. On the other hand, swimming, gymnastics and the like are 
most of the time due to the individual effort of a single competitor, who 
participates in several competitions, eventually colecting several medals. I'm
not trying to lower the merit of those, but shouldn't the medal count for
sports such as basketball be the actual number of players, or something like 
that?

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From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-M's 200 Individual Medley
Keywords: swimming
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:15:10 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

SWIMMING - Men's 200m INdividual Medley FINAL
=============================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic
 
World Record		1:59.36		held by Tamas Darnyi (HUN)
Olympic Record		2:00.17		held by Tamas Darnyi (HUN - Seoul 1988)
 
Gold	DARNYI, Tamas			HUN	?
Silver	BURGESS				USA	?
Bronze	CZENE, Attila			HUN	?
------
4	SUOMINEN, Petri Juhani?		FIN	?
5	GESSNER,			GER	?
6	KARNAUGH, Ron			USA	?
7	DUNN, Matthew			AUS	?
8	ANDERSON, Gary			CAN	?
 
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From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Why only ONE british olympic team
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:58:56 GMT

Aengus Lawlor wrote:
>> And most Irish people prefer that you don't use the name Eire when speaking
>> in English. The name of the state in English is Ireland.

To which my irascible colleague Simon Patience replies:
>Tough. I don't tell you what to call Britain in Gaelic so mind your own
>business.

In fact, I disagree with Aengus.  Most Irish people don't particularly
care if you call Ireland "Eire".  They just think it's rather
eccentric, as if you started talking about "La France" or
"Deutschland" out of the blue.  But then the English at least are
renowned for eccentricity.

             ,
(Agus anois dearfaidh me An Bhritain i nGaeilge...)

,
Eamonn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: US/Japan volleyball protest
Keywords: protest
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:34:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.193716.8514@midway.uchicago.edu>, hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld) writes:

|> The practice of treating second foul/card/technical/... in a different way
|> than the first simply because it has more palpable results is cowardly, unfair
|> and contrary to the spirit of the rules of any sport. A violation is a viola-
|> tion and should be treated equally no matter when it occurs.

One account of the US/Japan game (which I'm not sure that I agree with at all,
but I read it in either the Bos. Globe or NYT) was that the ref didn't want
the game to end on a call that has nothing to do with the teams abilities.
As such he did treat them differently and this (the paper argued) was what
caused the mistake.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-M's 50m Freestyle
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:01:57 GMT

SWIMMING - Men's 50m Freestyle FINAL
====================================
at Picornell Pool, Montjuic
 
World Record		21.81	held by Tom M Jager (USA)
Olympic Record		22.14	held by Matt Biondi (USA)


Gold	POPOV, Alexandre		EUN	21.91		New OR
Silver	BIONDI, Matt			USA	22.00
Bronze	JAGER, Tom M			USA	?
------
4	PRIGODA, Genardi		EUN	?
5	KALFAYAN, Cristoph		FRA	?
6	WILLIAMS, Peter			RSA	?
7	FOSTER, Mark			GBR	?
8	RUDOLPH, Nils			GER	?
 

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From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Future of EUN?
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:19:52 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

efisch@cs.utexas.edu (Eric A. Fisch) writes:
: In future olympics, will their still be an 'EUN' or are their plans to
: split them up into their individual republics?
: 
: Eric Fisch
: efisch@cs.utexas.edu

No chance. 'EUN' is a surprise even at this olympics. Olympics at
my place(Atlanta) would see only republics, not 'EUN'.

---Sreehari
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Hockey ; Thursday's results
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:27:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E63B.DF1A7600
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services


hi there

Results of yesterday's games:

Britain 3 India 1
Aregentina 1 Egypt 0
Australia 1 Germany 1
Netherlands beat Newazealand 4-3
Spain beat Malaysia
Pakistan 6 CIS 2

bye,

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They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
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Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
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From: alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Where is he from ?
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:09:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.161634.4367@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> bnlee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Beom No Lee) writes:
>Hi,
>
>   Does anybody know where that stupid official in US vs. Japan volleyball
>game come from ?  I do not think he is qualified as a referee.

I think he comes from one of the former Soviet republics; however, from what
I have heard (keep in mind, this is from NBC), he is respected around the 
world as one of the best.  Just what i've heard, though.  Please correct me
if I am wrong.  Thanx.

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu


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From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: results (top three of women's all-around)
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Keywords: gymnastics
                      
 	
	First, whether or not the injury to Galieva was real, I think Gutsu
	Second, it is painfully ironic that the first olympics in which the
	Well, I'm still excited for Miller, because in the past two
	One last question: have any 10's been awarded at all in this
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:55:43 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

Thanks,
ecw
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