From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Re: Assam and RJB - strange connections !
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
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	<1993Jan24.005416.46680@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:46:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.005416.46680@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

 |In article <F43703A.93Jan23193419@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp>, 
 |f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA) writes:
 |> In article <llp0vrINNb06@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> naga@sparcbiz2.Eng.Sun.COM 
 |(NAGA) writes:
 |>  |    With a lot of talk on the net as to how Kashmir is going to be
 |>  | "liberated" soon, let's pause for a moment and take a look at the reality:
 |>  |
 |
 |  Kashmir will be liberated when the JKLF forces will be *PULVERIZED* to dirt 
 |  BY the IAF. There is *no* doubt about this.

I never comented on it. I have nver been near Kashmir. So I categorically
stayed awy from it. Read my other letter that I just posted few minutes back. 
Sorry it has many speel problems. I gave a list of problems generated by
especially GREAT INDIRA.  If really SAMITDA is from Assam ask him how Congress
had created the Famousmasacare in ASSAM. Neli was the most peace full place.
This BM apisode had no impact in ASSAM. ABSOLUUTELY NO HINDU MUSLIM TROUBLE.
I called home to ask three times.


 |
 |  KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA AND W-I-L-L REMAIN THAT WAY !!!
 |

No doubt abot it. 


 |  Pakistan has systematically demolished Hindu existence since 1947. Now,
 |  Pakistan has the audacity of training JKLF terrorists - and officially 
 |  states that it provides "moral and political support". 
 |

Please coment on the difference of this act with what India did with SL tamil
People. Atleast Pak is stilll better. They have not yet fucked The kasmiri
militants as we have done to the SL Tamilians. Now they are no where.



 |  It is the holy duty of *all* U.S-Indians to see that all Indians stand united
 |  in defeating Pakistan on her vicious embarkment - training JKLF terrorists.
 |
 |  Interfering with the soverignity of India, shall NOT be tolerated.

Where was it a few years back? Where was it during Bangladesh liberation?
Don't call US the holy guy. It has done great things. But it has done the
dirtiest thing. Iraq is a ample evidence of cat and rat game. First giving'
a gren signal to Sadam and then fucking him out.

 |
 |>...... (blatherings/anti-Indian propaganda from Super Gupat deleted) ...... 
 |

I am not at all ANTI-INDIAN. recall my letter to gery when he was writing.
I was the one who wrote that how ever bad India is it is not a good idea
to seperate. It better to clean it. Punjab , especially being the richer
state, is like the elder brother.



 |   Mr.SG:
 |
 |  (1) One must not expect/ demand from a country to where someone has 
 |	migrated. You said that your family was '********' out of BD. True.
 |	Same with me. My father came from Barisal to Calcutta in 1947. My
 |	family was severely destroyed in parts in Madaripur, Barisal and Dhaka
 |	under the *benign* hands of Paki dictatorship. However, that does not
 |	automatically qualify me to "demand" from a country - India - because
 |	my family has been systematically harassed in BD till 1972. (It is a
 |	most childish demand, and, demands prudence to control it.) The
 |	question of getting depends on "give and take". A generation (1st
 |	generation immigrants) must *contribute* and align with the mainstream
 |	of the culture of the host country. Just don't enter a country and 
 |	start making demands O.K !
 |


This out of argument, just to answer you D.Chat. We never entered India.
That scroundal Neheru to become PM broke India. He made it a foreign country 
that wsa not supposed to be so. I have not enetered any country. 

Back to arguments, I refered to my family, like many others, being fucked out 
of BD not because I wanted to complain. If not seperation, we would have been
still farming. My father had the chance to fight all his life, not even a 10th
class pass is now running a Connstruction firm now. What do I have to complain.
Why I said all  this , read on to understand. I am not your enemy that you 
have to write to put me down. If you don't like my words, like me to lose, 
I put my panks down for you. But truth is truth. It will always come out.

The TRUTH is

ASSAM WAS AND IS STILL NEGLECTED.  TO SAY THE SIMPLE THING, (I am repeating)
BG this is there till only Guwahati. Who the fuck bothers about it? Do you
even know about this negligence? The negligence is so high that don't even 
understand that there is negligence.

Try to accept fact.




 |  (2) Assamese have a serious hangup against Bengalis. They want separation
 |	and ULFA has been active on this. Bhrigu Phukan and etc. and etc. and
 |	all the Assamese militants have propagated "Bongal Kheda" - which is
 |	to be retaliated. Much as one rational person might sympathise with
 |	a bunch of harrassed minority, it is in the same vein that total
 |	condemnation can be heaped upon people who simply whine. The world just
 |	abhorrs whiners ! 
 |

Don't read the temporary mood. See broadly. It is not a "Bongal Kheda". What
Assam said 5 years back, Now bengal is saying. Bangladesh infiltration is a 
problem. Bihar is feeling the pressure. That time , it was comgress that
supported the migration of Muslims from Bangladesh.  Just open your eyes.
You will see the truth.

One funny thing. this will tell you the whole point. Assam trouble started
with Marwari looting. Marwaris inteligently aoolowed them to loot and photo
graphed them and put in parliament. Fortunately they were undoubtedly Indians.
But they are they real cause of Assemese trouble, They control the whole 
buisness. At the end they invest in Gujrat.

Realise this. Assam is not just a "Bongal Kheda". That is the exact term.
It is a purely economical problem. Just refer the list of Demand of AGP
at the end of revolution. The whole list show the economical demand. 
Assam never gets thge royality for OIL as others get for other natural
resources.




 |	On a more lighter (?) tone, I have heard from my ONGC friends that
 |	Assamese girls find the Assamese males sexually unattractive, and, thus
 |	mating/ dating with Assamese women by the cultured Bengali folk in the
 |	plains of Assam is a nightmare and a symbol of hatred for Assamese males.
 |	(Too bad I did not go for Chemical Engg. at JU - otherwise I would have
 |	had my share too 8-)). Therefore this sexual rejection from the Assamese
 |	women, who favor Bengali males, acts a historic insult for Assamese 
 |	men, and, they vent their anger and frustration by supporting the stupid
 |	fanatic and mindlessly violent ULFA and other sub-terrorist group(s).
 |


How could stoop down to this level calling Assam trouble because it is because 
Assemese dating Bengalis. I take it is a joke.




 |	Since, it is the duty of India (and not North India alone) to preserve
 |	her solidarity, GOI must take all steps to promote security in Assam
 |	and the North Eastern Frontiers to maintain the borders *intact*. It is
 |	however, upto the Assamese to train themselves and get elevated in the
 |	society, or, else degrade themselves as terrorists.
 |

Take all step for security. But just don't rape girls in the name of security.
One tribal girl was raped. She had to sell all her property because to get
back the society rights she had to feed the whole vilage for one day. It was
a famous case. Rape by Army, It is a usual afair. I am sure you will call me
Anit-Indian at this point.



 |	I am sure that you will find that my comments are slanted, but, Dr.Samit
 |	Banerjee can followup the issue more correctly - as he is from Assam.
 |
 |

Sorry I have not read it yet. I will surely reply if I have time.




 |> --
 |> With regards
 |>  
 |> SUPRATIC GUPTA
 |
 |	   - stay alive
 |     
 |	     deb chatterjee
 |	   (a good samaritan)
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