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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brian...SPOILER
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:27:43 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
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(Pamela Cho) cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

>Anyway, I just wanted to mention that the actor who plays O'Brian is in
>a hit movie now....I don't want to 'spoil' it for anyone, so I won't say
>which...but it is interesting to watch!  
>I kept expecting him to say something about transporting...which he could
>have, but didn't.  So now he's in the silver screen!

    Ever seen DieHard2? Colm Meany has been in a number of films in the
past, it just so happens that in the new Steven Segal movie Under Seige
he actually has a fairly major role. Word has it, he also has a bit part
in Last of the Mohecans.


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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:52:09 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <ewright.718580087@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>
>>1. Troi's rank (the one un'pip'ped officer!).
>
>Troi was mentioned in Disaster as a Lieutenant Commander.  However, 
>various people associated with the show have explained her "uniform"
>by saying that she is no longer an active duty officer but a civilian 
>advisor.

Who said that?

I prefer the theory that she wears that so that her patients don't think
"Aye Aye Lieutenant Commander Troi yes MA'AM!!!!".  Not exactly the
attidtude a crewman should have toward his psychiatrist.  

If she was a civilian she would not have been allowed to take control in
"Disaster".
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Subject: How To Know
From: Robert_Sutton@kcbbs.gen.nz (Robert Sutton)
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:47:55 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

As a new reader of this group I've been wondering
 Has anyone noticed nods too r.a.s groups in any of Star Trek lore? 
 or would that be against ST law?

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Man of the People *SPOILERS*** & is TNG downhilling
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:08:38 EDT

    Let's see if I can make this spoiler thing work.
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      If this doesn't work, then nothing will.
  After reading some of the items on the net, I was expecting one of the
worst stories of all time.
  It wasn't that bad.
  I wasn't expecting a vampire story.  (With the usual logical inconsistencies
involved with a vampire story.)   (Note that I only read comments on the net,
NOT story sypnosis.  Thank Bog for spoiler warnings.)  Re-reading the comments,
complaints about the story on the net is the usual complaints people have
on vampire movies.
   Now, don't get me wrong.  I'm only saying it was an enjoyable hour; it
wasn't an earthshaking episode, and I would never tell someone to drop what
they are doing to watch it (unlike say, "Sins of the Father" or "Best of Both
Worlds."), but overall it neither adds nor detracts from my opinion of Trek.
 
  On the other hand, if they had made the conflict between the life of Troi
versus the Peace conference the center of this episode, so that instead of
just giving a lip service to "the sanctity of the individual", they actually
had to live with the consequences of the decision (whichever way it may have
fallen,) it may have been an earthshaking episode, but ...
 
                           Junsok Yang (YANJUNA @YALEVM.YCC)
 
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From: THALL@vm.ucs.UAlberta.CA (Tom Hall)
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:49:27 GMT

pkbockus@gsbphd.uchicago.edu (Keith Bockus) writes:

>johnnyp@athena.mit.edu (John Piscitello) writes:
>>Well, you certainly won't be missed. Let's have the REAL FANS of TNG
>>take this newsgroup BACK!

>What?!  And move out of their parents' basements!?!

>Get real.  Losing Atsushi is going to make this a much
>duller newsgroup.

While I have often disagreed with Atsushi's opinions on ST:TNG
episodes, I too think this group will not be the better for his
leaving.

In fact, as I have watched this group over the past few months, the
general level of comment here has seemed increasingly moronic... like
something you would find on your local KiddieNet bbs..... :-(

If more people like Atsushi decide to leave, then it'll be time for
_this_ kid to be pullin' the  plug too....

Tom


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From: swg9u@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Sarah Winn Gutowski)
Subject: Re: Synopsis, "Realm of Fear"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:54:44 GMT

Hey - this is a third year student at the University of
Virginia who had an assignment to get in touch with someone
from a newsgroup outside of UVA.  And I was wondering how you
know about the episodes so soon?  And also I just wanted to say
that you picked a great quote from the last "Realm of Fear"
episode!  Anyway, thanks for your information!  -Sarah
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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow - Enterprise time travel?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:33:59 GMT

In article <2896@perl-sun.dwrsun4.UUCP> perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) writes:
>One thing that bothered me is, why were they so dependent on the
>aliens' time travel technology?  Why couldn't they have just taken the
>Enterprise back in time which would have given them a home base and a
>convenient way of bopping back and forth to the present?  By this time,
>time travel should be a perfectly commonplace thing.  The TOS
>Enterprise traveled back to the 60's without much fanfare in
>"Assignment: Earth" as part of a mission.  Some years later (ST4:TVH)
>Kirk and company time traveled in a Klingon mini-bus using calculations
>that Spock did off the top of his head.  By TNG's time there should be
>a "Time Travel" button on the control panel.  Yet TNG has never taken
>advantage of this capability.  They act like it never existed.  Every
>time they encounter a time traveler they are fascinated.

Actually I remember a ST:TNG episode where Riker and Picard were talking
about time travel in Picard's ready room.  Riker referred to time warp
and the slingshot method as "theoretical" instead of as an historical
fact.  Then again they referred to Kirk in "The Naked Now" as some captain
of an earlier Enterprise.  I suspect they have actually been trying to
erase or retcon out a lot of early Trek stuff.  

Yasmin

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From: 02maferguson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Is that Tasha in "Schisms?"
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:50:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Oct14.155059.10585


In reference to next week's airing of the new ST:TNG episode "Schisms"

Okay everyone repeat after me....Tasha is dead, Tasha is dead, Tasha is dead.
Or is she?

Take a good long look everybody to the one part of the commercial where a
patient collapes and Bev catchers her.  
Is that patient that falls in Bevs arms Tasha?
Look closely next time that commercial comes on and see for yourselves.
I really do hope I'm wrong.
Because if I'm not, Paramount is definitly playing some mind games with us.

             -M-
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From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Review: "Man of the People" Can you say Composite ? 
Keywords: TNG, Troi, anger, lust
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:21:31 GMT

In article <13OCT199216430772@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
|> Oh, and if I see another mediator-based plot this year, I'm gonna *SCREAM* !!!! 

Worse!  Mediator who single-handedly saves a world (or worlds) from
total destruction by war.  All in one meeting.  Hell, if conflicts
could be resolved that fast, it's unlikely that war would have been
started in the first place.

It's tired, old, irritating and worse, insulting.

You can still do a mediator plot without the "either/or" scenario.
I'd prefer to see a conflict over orders vs. reality.  It doesn't
matter _at all_ whether he even has the ability to make any progress
in these matters.  All that matters is that Picard is under orders.

|> You're right, Tim ... this one drew a vacuum ! 

I don't normally comment about any episode - I certainly don't post
reviews :-).  But other than a little bit of costuming (the corridor
must be chillier than the staterooms :-), there wasn't much here at
all.  As always, a few moments, a few good scenes and acting which was
generally fine (better than I can do :-), even if non-descript.

But even the makeup work was poor.  When Troi was aging, it was OBVIOUS
that she had a full face pancake on.  How can you tell?  Her face was
shinier than the rest of her skin.  Not so bad, unless you the division
line between heavy and standard makeup isn't an obvious straight line.
Ugh.

The dreaded crew evaluations.  I'd have preferred an hour of that.
(Why not?  Why not an hour of flashbacks of a dozen "unknown/regular"
crewmembers doing their jobs for which they are being evaluated for.
Old and tired, but Would've been much more interesting.  Yawn.)

Personally, I'd take all the videotapes containing the episode, boat off
the shore of Florida and make an artificial reef out of 'em.  Put 'em to
good use.

-- 
Robert J. Granvin                                       School of Statistics
rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu                             University of Minnesota
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: "realm of fear" prece
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:52:48 EST

>Yes. Now they have established that people can remain suspended in
>transporter beams for very long periods of time under the right
>conditions.

Huh?  Sorry, but that's not the idea *I* got...  From what I gathered,
Barkley was terrified of being held in stasis too long in the
transporter beam and then Data went on to say "your pattern will degrade
to the point where we will not be able to transport you back".


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From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Re: Episode Q-Me is no more!
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:00:46 GMT

> Trivia question....
>
> Name the only other ST:TNG episode to have the title changed AFTER it was
> published in an official promotion department schedule.  What was the first
> title and what was the new title?

I know it is Time Squared which is what it was in it's final form. Just taking
a guess I would say Time to the Second.
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Keywords: How
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:31:04 GMT

In article <1av4ntINN5n8@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning) writes:
>
>I just saw a re-run of "Elementary, Dear Data" last night and I have a stupid
>question.  Isn't there some way they could use a plot complication like
>downloading Proffessor Morriarity's holodeck program into a android body
>built to his own likeness?  Data could build the body and then just download
>Morriarity into his new form.  Anyone have a justifiable answer why it can't
>be done?

Yes.  Sir AC Doyle's estate would sue them.  That is the reason why
we'll never see Moriarty again.
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere (spoilers)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:04:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct14.004233.25150@phx.mcd.mot.com> rolandb@phx.mcd.mot.com (roland blackwell) writes:


^L





>Anyway, my
>question is, was the inside parameter of the Dyson sphere the living area, or
>were there suppose to be worlds inside the sphere?  

The inner surface was habitable.  If you looked closely, 
you would have seen oceans and continents covering the 
inner surface near the portal where the Enterprise entered. 

>If there were no worlds inside how does gravity work?

Presumeably, the same way gravity on the Enterprise works.
Some type of gravity generator powered by unobtainium.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Relics (no spoilers)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:37:10 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe) writes:

>Relics was well done - I especially liked the holodeck scenes.

    Some of them were well done, except for the parting shot which was a
VERY obvious "blue screen".

>This show could, and probably should, have been two episodes.  There was
>so much more that could have been done with the interaction with the
>characters and the "exploration" of the circumstances they were in.

    True, but I'm glad that they they don't do too many two parters.
Although htis one could have been a much better 2-parter than Times
Arrow, of course that's not saying much.

    And what had to be the best line from the whole episode.....


    "Oh it's.....*sniff*...it's.... green." - Data to Scotty

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   "You know Television has gone to hell when, with every commercial,
	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Riker's lust for the Enterprise
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:45:36 EDT

Regarding Riker's lack of finesse and inability to think out difficult situa-   tions without telling Worf to "load torpedo bays! ready phasers!", a friend of
mine commented that Riker is very much like Kirk: a two-dimensional, shoot-to-
kill, military, ladies' man hero figure, whereas Picard is considerably more    cerebral and diplomatic. Kirk never was comfortable acting as a diplomat for the
Feds, case in point his latest adventure with the Klingons in ST:VI. Picard     always seems to get requests to act as mediator or ambassador for someone. 
Riker has yet to get assigned a diplomatic task and in those rare cases where
mediation is required usually puts the Federation on the brink of war with his
bluster and bravado. 

Does this make sense?

Chris Dunlea
crdunlea@rodan.syr.edu
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Date: 7 Oct 1992 23:43:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com () says:

>But somehow I can't see them saying, "It's sweeps month; quick, get Troi's
>clothes off."

  It's not sweeps yet, but did you check out the scene with Troi answering
the door to her quarters in "Man of the People" where she was wearing the
*very thin* gown?  All I can say is she must have asked the computer to
lower the temperature a few degrees...  ;)

  Jeff

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From: annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Man of the People"
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:19:07 GMT
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company
Keywords: TNG, Troi, anger, lust

In article <Bw0I3H.FDI.1@cs.cmu.edu>, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) writes:
|> 
|> >I talked last week about giving "Realm of Fear" something of an MST3K 
|> >treatment, but mostly all in good fun.  This time, we were MSTing to survive. 
|> 
|> MST?
|> 

Mystery Science Theatre 3000


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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Promos for: SCHISMS (#231)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 01:12:57 GMT

Promos for the next new ST:TNG episode: "Schisms" (#231) were released today.
The actual program will air starting on Saturday, October 17th.  Following 
this will be four more new episodes: Q-Me, Rascals, A Fistful of Datas, and
The Quality of Life.


Here is the promo copy (announcer):

WITHOUT WARNING AND NO EXPLANATION, AN EXPERIMENT IN TERROR HAS BEGIN.

  [ A patient collapses and Bev catches her ]
  [ Worf recoils from Mr. Mott's scissors ]
  [ Geordi, Riker and aliens in a holodeck room ]

 Geordi:  I've been in this room before.

 Riker:  We've all been in here before.

HAVE CREW MEMBERS BEEN KIDNAPED AND MEMORIES ERASED?      [(Naawww :)]

  [ Riker unconscious on alien examination table ]

  [ Picard and Geordi talking to... ]

 Picard:  I need to know if anyone comes on or off this ship.

  [ Bev and MedTech in Sickbay, examining Riker ]

 Bev:  It looks as though your arm has been severed and then reattached.

AND WILL THEY BE SACRIFICED AS HUMAN GUINEA PIGS?

  [ Riker on table in alien lab, a green alien (Tetryon) examines him ]

  [ Worf and Picard on the bridge ]

 Work:  Commander Riker has been taken from the Enterprise.

  [ Riker awakens on alien examination table ]

ON AN ALL NEW EPISODE OF STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION.


Short promo:
  The crew of the Enterprise become helpless victims of deadly
  alien experiments, on Star Trek: The Next Generation.


-{ Dean Adams }-

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: reviews
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:52:52 EST

A while ago I used to get maybe two or three people who said they liked
my comments and appreciated my imput.  One even considered me a
"Trek-god" and asked me numerous questions from the warp scale to
O'Brian's rank (oh god)...

However, they've since stopped.  :-)

Anyways, my question is should I add to the unending list of no-namer
episode-reviewers who compete against such real Net-Trek-Gods as Lynch
and Kanorami?  I kinda liked getting the occasional compliments...  :-)


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From: dfranck@su102r.ess.harris.com (Deniz Franck)
Subject: Guinans secret !! -- how is she 1000 yearsold?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:57:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne  FL

I'm afraid I lost the previous article in which someone
said Guinan is now 1000 years old -- how do we know how
old she is? Has she ever stated her age? ( I thought she 
just implied she was VERY old.. )

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REFERENCES!!

I still believe Time's Arrow could POSSIBLY be before the 
Borg wiped out Guinan's race -- why else would her Father 
still be alive? Picard screwed up -- he should have warned
her of the borg, but I guess that might of screwed up
this time stream {8-).


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