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From: sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart)
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked (was Re: Most Embarassing Movie)
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Organization: U of Mn Propoganda Ministry
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:22:36 GMT

In article <JASON.92Sep4144357@ab20.larc.nasa.gov>,
jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin) wrote:

> 
> Barton Fink: Had to be the most boring piece of nonsense I've ever
> 	seen. 

At least you're honest about this one.  I can't believe the number of
people who start going into cinema-art speak when they talk about this
movie.  I think what they're trying to get across was "..it was a really
boring, stupid, go-nowhere movie, but it won all those important awards and
was written/produced/directed by those paragons of new cinema, the Cohen
brothers, so there must be some kind of important commentary on something
or other."

Face facts, folks, that story ran out of steam after the first five
minutes.

> 
> Pump Up the Volume: A few good scenes of Christian Slater doing his
> 	show, but there was no story progression.  There was some evil
> 	principal and evil federal commission thrown in to please the
> 	teenagers, but nothing much else.

Christian Slater is the film world's draw for the disaffected/bad
acne/don't-fit-in-anywhere-but-wish-I-did set.

> 
> Wayne's World: About the same quality of the new Saturday Night.  It
> 	was funny to start with but the joke ran thin after the first
> 	ten minutes.  I don't even know how it ended, because I fell
>  	asleep.

I was bored to TEARS the first time I saw this.  I went a second time
(someone else paid for the movie and provided pre-film hallucinogens) and
laughed my head off.  Go figure. I don't think it was the dope, since it
hasn't helped other, more pathetic films, but who knows.


Shawn Barnhart ! sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu
I'm not selling out, I'm buying in.
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Showtime
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:42:09 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <117390@muvms3.bitnet>, rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:
|>In article <1992Aug25.145035.16130@nic.umass.edu>,
a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
|>> S. Spencer Sun wrote most of the quoted text that follows 
|>
|>> It is gernerally a case of someone being too lazy to look at THE TWO FOOT 
|>> CLOCK HANGING OVER MY HEAD.  I'm not kidding...the clock in our box office
|>> is twenty six inches across, but people still ask me what time is is.  I
|>> have taken to making a point of turning completely in place and checking
|>> the clock I bought for the express purpose of being HUGE AND NOTICABLE.
|>
|>Yeah, and soon as your back is turned they probably snicker amongst
themselves
|>and say: "See, made her do it again!"
|>
|>..Hey, ya never know :-).
|>

   Next time it happens, I wouldn't turn. I would just stare at the
person who asked and say in a very authorative voice "<any time of day
you like, which is obviously wrong>". Now the person who asked the silly
question in the first place has 2 choices: either they contradict you by
indicating the enormous clock behind you (in which case you simply smile
knowingly), or they walk off saying nothing (in which case they look
like the idiot in the eyes of everyone who witnesses the conversation).
                    
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From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Marx brothers: a question
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:40:51 GMT


What the heck are these guys up to today.  Are they dead, alive, married,
with children, working anywhere in the cinematographic world.

If not, why not, how many films did they make, what is the entire story,
any books, documentaries, films on them...?

Just vaguely interested.

hook

he he

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From: buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler)
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:58:43 GMT

In article <66618@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Alberghini)  
writes:
> 
>      I would like some opinions of what people consider the best shots or
> sequences in movie history.  I don't care about the movie as a whole, just
> specifics. 

I think Spike Lee's movies are laden with wonderful photography (is that
whst it's called?).

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From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:40:06 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

IMHO one of the best sequences ever put together was in Orson Welles'
"Lady from Shanghai".  The scene in the house of mirrors is definitely
on of his finest.  This scene and the lines in the movie make this
film a must see for those who like his films.
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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:19:45 GMT

Breakfast Club?  Not even close.

How about: 

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (4 leads, 2 walk-ons, 3 background people
for 2 seconds at the beginning).

Images (dir. Altman).  Unless I'm forgetting a background person, there
5 leads, and 1 small part in one scene.

Sleuth (I'm not giving away details here, but the total is less than 7).

And all the various one-person shows that have been filmed:
Give 'Em Hell, Harry!  (James Whitmore)
The Search for Signs...  (Lily Tomlin)
the one directed by Altman, about Richard Nixon

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: welter@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Welter)
Subject: Re: Script Query: _The_Princess_Bride_
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:55:34 GMT

mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:

>Nope, it's a joke.  I don't even think there's a Florin.  

Actually Florin and Guilder are the two names for the Dutch currency.

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From: v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MANDRAKE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Sep2.150114.20092@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, wheelan@cc.mcgill.ca (Bill Heelan) writes...
> 
>  Maybe I just have a high pain threshold, but I've never walked out of a
>  film, although "Mom and Dad Save the World" and "Beautiful Dreamers"
>  would have been good places to start.
> 
>                                                         - Bill
 I'll hate myself for this;but,I liked "Mom and Dad Save the World."
It was so stupid (and only a buck-twentyfive) that I had to laugh.
Besides,I like Kathy Ireland.
  I did go to see a movie called "Slammer Girls" a few years back.
My friend and I were alone in the theatre. Halfway through the doors
opened and an usher came and sat in the back row -he left after only five 
minutes.I wish I could have joined him.
From: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (M.J.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:32:36 GMT
Reply-To: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

The finale to Peter Weirs DEAD POETS SOCIETY
as each of the boys stand up on their desks. 
very emotional - shows just how powerful cinema can be !!!

OH CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN !

                         MJB ... 
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From: ahom@yingjow.tnds.bellcore.com (Allen Hom)
Subject: Re: letterboxed VHS movies?
Organization: Network Data Collection Presentation and Processing Development
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 13:22:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.172034.12276@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:
|> Add to the list of LBX'ed VHS movies:
|> Henry V (Brannagh's version)
|> Star Trek IV (Director's Cut)
|> Star Trek I-V (Collector's Editions--Boxed Set)
|> Ben-Hur (chariot race only, but well worth it!)
|> 
|> Steve
I'm not sure if these were mentioned already or not :
	Spartacus
	Fatal Attraction - Director's Cut
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From: trudel@athos.rutgers.edu (Jonathan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: EMBARRASSING: JOE V VOLCANO??
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:09:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: athos.Sep.4.17.09.27.1992.12947
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

HF.SKW@forsythe.stanford.edu (Susan Wandling) writes:

>  Secondly, "Joe vs the Volcano."  Again, I think, a
>nearly great comedy.  Sure it's a joke once they get to the
>island of Pukapuka or whatever it is, but up to then, it's a blast
>to watch Ryan's three (four?) characters and Hanks' version of
>hypochondria.  

Yes, most definitely.  Now, one thing that has bothered me - how many
times to you see that crooked line/logo in the movie?  Here's what I
come up with:

The walkway to Joe's job.
The crack in his wall.
The Lightning Bolt
The line of peasants with torches going up the volcano.

Any others?


I know he can get the job, but can he *do* the job?
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:03:23 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <Bto047.MAs@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu 
(Live Fast, Die Young!) writes:

> 	Sleuth had only two characters in the whole movie....
> 
> 	Michael Caine and Lawrence Olivier

This is also the first film I thought of...but it is also a spoiler.
In the future be a little more considerate.

Greg Bole                                   "I am only a human being person!"
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  Laura Dern in _Rambling Rose_
From: lara@sgi.com (Lara J Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:04:12 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems,  Mountain View CA.


Rope by Sir Alfred Hitchcock had (i think) 3.5
three living people and one dead one that is never
really seen (or was it 4 living)



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From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:55:39 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes:
.>does anyone out there think that the sex scenes in certain
.>movies are getting too explicit and not really called for?

>I think a good case can be made that if explicit sex and most profanity
>were left out, it wouldn't detract at all from the film as a whole,
>with very few exceptions, and might possibly even make it a better
>film for the lack of it.


I agree 100%.. Our society has become so explicit in everything we do
that we have become NUMB to the violence,..etc. Most movies that I have
seen recently seems to have the sex and violence merely to try and outdo
each other...The bigger and better syndrome; if a little is good, then
a lot must better..

Check out the better movies from the period of 15 years ago and earlier;
most did not have to be so explicit to make their point.
.
.
.
.
..
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Seven Samurai
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:57:27 GMT

In article <2761@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>A question: why were samurai hunted and killed by the farmers, as the
>film mentioned (near the begining the villagers say something like "You
>hunt and kill samurai, why won't you stand up to the bandits"? And how
>could the farmers overpower such mighty warriors anyway??

Supposedly, a fairly common way for peasants to supplement their 
incomes during times of wars would be to pick over the battlefields
nearby and steal the armor, weapons, etc. from the corpses.  Not too
surprisingly, they were not always especially particular about whether some
of the wounded were quite corpses yet, and considerately helped them
along to that status before stripping them.  Finding caches of arms
and armor in a peasant's hut was definite evidence that they had been
looting the dead, and at least a suggestion that they had been murdering
the wounded.

Of course, the samurai had probably rounded up the peasants to serve as
sword-fodder in the battle, had raped their wives and daughters, stolen
their animals and grain, trampled their fields, and generally treated
the locals like dung.  One can understand why the peasants didn't always
take a friendly, protective attitude towards wounded samurai.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: jeff@jeckle.tamu.edu (Jeff Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: 'Arthur' King of the Badly Dubbed Britons (was Re: Most Embarassing Movie)
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:35:38 GMT
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Sep3.155858.5666@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
>k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
>
><Talking about "Excalibur" got me to thinking about the actor who portrayed 
><Arthur. I can't recall seeing him in *anything* after that film came out.
><Admittedly, Excalibur was not a great calling-card for the man's acting
><skills but one would have thought he could have gotten a job *somewhere*
><(teenage-slasher, running around naked in a Greenaway film :). Can some
><wise TriviaLord out there fill us in on his career (and his name too)?
>
>The great Shakespearian actor Nicol Williamson, famous for his stage

No no no.  Nicol Williamson played Merlin (rather well at that).  Nigel Terry
portrayed King Arthur.  I've only seen him in one or two other films, only
one of which I can remember the name of.  In any event, they tend toward the
"art film" end of the spectrum.  The one I DO remember is the title role of
Caravaggio, a 17th? 18th? century painter and an exceedingly odd film by
Derek Jarman (sounds of trucks in the background, people using calculators
and typewriters, etc).  Beautifully filmed, though.



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From: kirsten@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kirsten Starcher)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:24:03 GMT

In article <la7am6INNgv2@news.bbn.com> mdaily@bbn.com (Matt Daily) writes:
>donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
>>>
>>> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
[stuff deleted]
>
>Running a close second was `My Stepmother The Alien', or a Bronson Pinchot 
>film `High Spirit' or something like that.

You too, huh?  After _My Stepmother Is An Alien_, I lost whatever respect I
still had left for Kim Basinger.  (_Cool World_ only dug her grave.)
I came pretty close to walking out of that one.  If I hadn't been with someone
else (who paid for my ticket :-), I might have.

I tend to see a lot of movies on video so I don't really have a great variety
of movies to choose from in this topic.  But I saw _The Super_ in the theatre,
and boy, that was atrocious.  One of those things you think was done as a
practice script at writers' school.

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (question, with spoilers)
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:08:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <4913@othmar.lulea.trab.se> sture@lulea.trab.se (Sture Jonsson) writes:
>iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott) writes:
: 
>: The stoplight is explained!

>How ? I saw the movie but don't remember this..... (yet another reason to take
>that memory course, if I could remember who held it....)

First of all, the stoplight at Sparkwood and 21, where James let Laura off,
was NOT the light that they've been showing for the entire series.  This
one had the lettering of "STOP" and "GO" over the red and green lights.
Maybe that's part of the meaning.

Guess this means that now Twin Peaks is a TWO-traffic-light town...
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From: gre2@quads.uchicago.edu (erik michael gregersen)
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Reply-To: gre2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.212536.11467@aosg.gsf.dec.com> reeves@decvax.dec.com writes:
>Secret Honor.  One character, one actor.  I'm sure there are others.

This is hard to beat, but an honorable mention should go to "Closet Land"
(2 characters, 2 actors).

Erik Gregersen
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 07:17:09 EST
From: <MONELLO@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
 <1992Aug30.235338.14896@ncar.ucar.edu>

"Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll"  One actor - Eric Bogoosian playing several
 different characters.  Excellent film.

Mike
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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
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In article <1992Aug12.205145.26099@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>, jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>  
> How about war movies about earlier times?

The final battle scene in "Spartacus" when the Roman legions meet in battle
with the slave army...it's mesmerising to see the first phalanx of Roman
soldiers appearing over a slight rise in the ground, and you begin to feel the
hopelessness of the slaves' chances -- and then, behind the first wave, ANOTHER
solid wall of soldiers shows up!  It's at that point that hopelessness changes
to despair! :-(

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Is "Heavy Metal" a bootleg?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:28:39 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Sep1.160655.12468@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Bart-Man) writes:
>
>  I copied "Heavy Metal" off of Showtime (or was it Cinemax) this summer 
>and was wondering if it could be considered a bootleg.  I haven't seen it 
>available on tape or anywhere else since it first came out, and I don't 
>think anything was cut out of it (as far as I can remember.)
>
>-Bart

Well, I think it's only considered a bootleg if you sell it or copies of
it.  Making tapes from Cable or Broadcast TV for your own PERSONAL use
is not bootleg (of course, IMHO)

BTW, it must have been Cinemax - I think they're the only cable channel
which has shown HM.
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 10:08:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.220244.27838@leland.Stanford.EDU> shibe@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Schaible) writes:
>Legend, with Tom Cruise, was pretty bad, too.  Tim Curry was good, but 
>everything else about the movie sucked eggs.
Nonsense. The music was fabulous ( Goldsmith, not Tangerine Dream ) and the 
cinematography and sets were outstanding.
									M.H.
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: sex in movies
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:10:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.195424.4530@asl.dl.nec.com>, clee@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Christina Lee) writes...
> 
>does anyone out there think that the sex scenes in certain
>movies are getting too explicit and not really called for?
>A number of movies come to mind:
>Boomerang
>Single White Female
>Basic Instinct
> 
>It really hit home when I realized that a woman had brought in 
>a little girl (2-4 yrs old) to SWF.  

Maybe your question ought to be _Does anyone think that some 
parents have terrible judgement when taking kids to certain
movies?_

There is no question that some movies have sex scenes in them
that do nothing for plot or character or anything - they're 
just there to help sell tickets.  But there is no such thing
as a too explicit sex scene.

Ron