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From: steve@donald.tamu.edu (Steve Rikli)
Subject: Re: make and SGI sales (unrelated)
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:29:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.163648.8780@odin.corp.sgi.com> raolson@cornflower.wpd.sgi.com (Robert Olson) writes:
>In article <1110@shrike.com>, flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton) writes:
>|> 
>|> Second topic. Recently, I tried to call my local sales rep. It
>|> turns out that he didn't meet his sales quota and SGI let him go.
>|> .... 
>|> The question is: is this normal procedure for SGI? Miss a quota and
>|> hit the road? Does this imply anything about SGI's current or
>|> future financial picture?
>|> ....
>
>I don't know anything about this specific situation, and wouldn't
>comment if I did.  Further, I'm not speaking from any particular
>knowledge of SGI Field Sales management practices.
>....
>Bottom line:  Sales people are measured by their ability to rack up
>sales.  Business plans are based on most of them hitting their sales
>quotas.  Some consideration is made for "investment" in customer
>relations or new industries.  Evidence that you can't measure up
>by the standards of your profession mean you should move on.
>
>Again, I don't have any idea if this was your situation.  Just an
>attempt to interpret a foreign culture for engineers.

I would be willing to wager, also, that SGI has something of a surplus
in sales and marketing (and probably elsewhere) after joining with Mips.
Our meeting yesterday with the Support Marketing folks included one
long-time employee of SGI and another who just came on board from Mips
and will be handling our region after the "breaking in" period.

I guess, from that standpoint, it's good that SGI didn't just absorb
Mips and give the boot to all the employees.  Hopefully, the best
and the brightest from both companies will be around for some time,
but it seems reasonable to expect SGI to trim down somewhat in several
departments.

cheers,
sr.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: grege@chopin.asd.sgi.com (Greg Estes)
Subject: Re: Video Recordings from SGI
Keywords: Video
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.194542.28997@utkux1.utk.edu>, srsuresh@laser1.engr.utk.edu (Marapane Suresh) writes:
|> 
|> I am interested in purchasing a system (hardware/software) which will
|> enable us to make a NTSC video recording of animation developed on Personal
|> Iris and Indigo machines.  In the past we have used a home video camera to record animation from the graphics screen by pointing the camera at the screen. The quality of the recordings generated via this is not good. is there any equipment that will direc|> tly take the input from SG and record it?  Does any one know what type of system I need and who makes them? 
|> 
|> Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> suresh

From SGI -

Indigo: IndigoVideo - Real-time and single-frame input and output
	VideoCreator - Full-screen real-time scan conversion (output)

Personal IRIS:	VideoCreator - As above
		VideoFramer - Single-frame input and output
		Genlock and Composite Video Option - 1/4 screen output


Also, there are third-party boards from the likes of Tektronix and
Chyron for these platforms, and most third-party scan converters
will work (i.e., Lyon-Lamb, RGB Spectrum, Folsom, etc.)

You also have the option of using the setmon command to set the
system for 30Hz output. This may be encoded using a third-party
encoder to get to NTSC/PAL. See the man pages for more details.

Greg Estes
SGI
From: noma@konet.kz.tsukuba.ac.jp (Haruo Noma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Apple CD-150
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:24:29 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Inst. of Mecha.,Univ. of Tsukuba

Does anyone connect Apple CD-150 drive to Indigo?

Thank you.

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From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  X-Servers for PC's (was Re: IRIX vs. NeXTStep)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:59:17 GMT



David M. Senseman <senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu> writes:
>
>
>Vernon Schryver writes:
>
>>What about PC's running Windows and acting as X servers?  I have no
>>idea how well such software packages work, but there are zillions of
>>them.  They can't all be junk.
>>
>>The current crop of 33MHz 486 motherboards is not as slow as many
>>people seem to think for pure integer, non-graphics stuff.  As a SGI
>>stockholder who has run some benchmarks on a 486 clone, I'm very glad
>>the SGI R4000 based systems are beginning to ship.  As an stockholder,
>>but forgetting anything I might know about future products as an SGI
>>employee, I fervently hope the R4K is only a short term stop-gap or
>>that the next efforts from IBM, HP, and Intel get lost in the mail.
>>
>
>I have a 486/33 Clone in the lab "on the net" with a 1280x1024, 17" 
>monitor and an ATI Ultra Graphics card. Are there an X-servers
>that "aren't junk" as Vernon suggests? In particular I would like
>to run FrameMaker off an Indigo on my PC. Anyone tried DESQview/X
>or DEC's "Xcursions" software? Thanks.

I run my PC as an X server on a 286! The X server program runs
in Windows and it is called Xvision.  It allows a blending of
Windows and X.  It is definately not junk.  Simple things like xterms,
xclocks, epoch (or emacs), xedit, ghostview etc. run fine. I have
also run more advanced things like Wingz, Frame, and even Explorer
on it.  Performance for these?  Well, it's a 286.   Wingz is alright,
Frame pushes the limits of patience depending upon what you want to
do, Explorer is unusable.  However, based on the performance
that I get with a 286, I can't imagine that a 486 wouldn't be totally
great for any of these!  The caveat I should mention is that for the
more advanced things like Frame you really need 1024x768 resolution
with a 17" monitor to be totally comfortable.  Also, you probably want
a graphics accelerator board as well.


DISCLAIMER:  Experiences cited above do not imply endorsement
or recommendation of any product by the US Government, NIST, or
myself.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Subject: Re: make and SGI sales (unrelated)
Reply-To: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:22:04 GMT

In article <1110@shrike.com> flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)  
writes:
> The documentation of make in the SGI manuals is spartan at best.
> Also, some of the best features of Sun make are not available on
> the SGI, like shell assignements of macros; e.g.,
> 
>     CURRENT_DIR = `pwd`

Try man pmake - I found the following which may do what you want:
        VARIABLE   != command
     will execute command using the Bourne shell and place the result in the
     given variable

In general I find pmake more useful (especially on an 8 processor machine) and  
I suspect better maintained.

[detail erased]

> I have an SCCS directory which contains SCCS files for func1.c,
> func2.c, and func3.c. Running make with this makefile gives the
> error:
> 
>     Don't know how to make func1.o
> 
> According the man page (and I verified the .c~.o rule) make should
> extract func1.c from SCCS and compile it to produce func1.o (same
> for the other files). Why doesn't this work? I called the TAC, and
> the dispatcher said she had just taken another call on a similar
> problem. Does anyone have any hints or answers? Is this an FAQ?

At least the man page for pmake is honest about this one:

  PMake doesn't have make(1)'s tilde rules for SCCS files
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Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: karsh@sgi.com (Bruce Karsh)
Subject: Re: Audio Questions
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 11:49:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.163827.22304@news.iastate.edu> bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Bryan Manske) writes:

>1.  How do you set the default audio gain level in hardware on
>    a 35 or indigo?  (nvram parameter?)

You can adjust the "volume" nvram parameter to adjust the volume of the
boot tune.  Right now, we don't provide a mechanism for setting the
initial volume after booting.  You can adjust the volume using the
audio control panel.

>2.  Exactly how do the gain slots (0-255) map to real world db values?
>    (linear relationship?)

On the output side, the amplitude in volts is linearly proportional to the
output gain value.  On the input side, the amplitude in dB's is linearly
proportional to the input gain value.

>And, I guess, a question from me.  I'm assuming 8-bit samples.
>Is this correct?

Now way!  Everything is at least 16 bits per sample per channel.
8 bit audio sounds terrible.
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			Bruce Karsh
			karsh@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: SLIP questions
Keywords: SLIP slip routed route ifconfig
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.024400.24079@dsea.com>, lacey@dsea.com (Dan Lacey ) writes:
> I am experimenting with the SLIP interface on an Indigo. I ran a cable between
> the serial ports of two Indigos (4 wire). I am using 38400 baud serial lines.
> I will be using 19200 baud serial for the modems. I am running IRIX 4.0.4.
> 
> This is to test the functionality of the SLIP interface before I start using
> modems  (saves phone charges. I purchased some RJ45 to DIN8 adapters from
> Inmac and made a cable using RJ45 connectors.).

You must use 7 (or 8 or 9) wire cables if you want it work.
So that RTS and CTS are connected.

> How do I cleanly shutdown the SLIPs when I want to disconnect? Will the ttym*
> serial device shutdown the gateway SLIP? 

I use `killall -v slip`.
I don't understand the 2nd sentence.

> How do I use "routed -F ???" ?

I don't know how to answer that.  How about "just fine"?
More seriously, if you don't understand that a default route is
or their dangers, it is probably best to not thing about `routed -F`.

If the question is how many zeros to add after the IP network number,
I know of machines running `routed -hF 192.26.78.0`.

> Every thing seems to work without an explicit "route add host remote gatway 0"
> command... Am I missing something? I can ping the remote from other
> workstations on the net.

If you are saying that things work fine without fiddling with routed
settings, then I'm not surprised.  It just means that you are running
routed with the default settings.

(It could also mean that you did not block the ethernet between the
machines, but I hope not.)

I added "-F" to routed to reduce the size of the RIP packets sent over
the wire.  Unless you have a network like SGI's, with > 130 routes on a
machine I just now checked, and so with big RIP packet trains, you
probably do not need the features or dangers of -F.

> After about a 1/2 hour, on of the SLIPs will die. Does this have anything to
> do with the 38400 baud?

"die"?  How?  
Links should stay up forever, redialing as necessary with "-c".


Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
From: SUTPHINWB@npt.nusc.navy.mil (SUTPHIN WILLIAM B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: re: putting it on the internet
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:15:47 GMT

I am interested in connecting a system to the internet also.  I'm 
partically interested in receiving mail.  All I have is the sendmail.cf
file I received from SGI.  Any help will be apprecieated.

Thanks
From: yates@a.chem.upenn.edu (John H. Yates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: mail problem with one user
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:28:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Originator: yates@a.chem.upenn.edu

On a machine running IRIX 4.0.4 I have a peculiar
mail problem I don't understand. All users can send/receive
Internet mail just fine, except one user klein. He can send
mail out, but incoming mail bounces. A 'mail -v' to him
shows 'mail: Can't send to klein' and bounces it.

A finger looks ok, I have the same sendmail.cf working
on more than 6 other SGI's, I've rebuilt it anyway,
and I've removed and readded klein as a user. He tells
me that if a .forward file is there to someone else,
it works. I checked the aliases file and there are
none for him. He has no .mailrc file. I have checked
/usr/mail for a klein file (none), and checked
/usr/spool/mqueue for any files (none).

/bin/mail is exactly the same, including protections and
ownership as at another SGI machine at IRIX 4.0.4
that I just added a klein account to and it receives
mail just fine.

What can be wrong on the one machine?

Thanks, John
yates@a.chem.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Epson scanner ES300C drivers/software 4 INDIGO anyone?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:56:36 GMT

In <1992Jul29.055000.5453@bacchus.esa.oz.au> hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
| I have a Epson scanner that we use on our amiga.  It would be nice
| if we could use it on the Indigo.
| 
| It is a parallel scanner.  I think Indigos have a parallel port.
| 
| So,is there any software and/or drivers to use this scanner on
| my indigo?

The scanner program will work with a ricoh is11 on the parallel
port, but it seems that their bidirectional parallel protocol
is different than most peoples, so even at the signal level,
it may not work with your scanner.  You should be able
to find out fairly quickly dumping commands to the port
and then reading back (see 'man plp' for the ioctls to use,
including the one to put it into bidirectional mode).
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: siegel@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: HELP! What's wrong with this code?...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:24:18 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA

I can't seem to get the following code to work. I gives a Segmentation
Fault on the last line:

/*********************** CODE BEGINS HERE *********************/

/* Compile with: cc smalltest.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 -o smalltest
*/

#include <stdio.h>
#include <X11/Xlib.h>
#include <X11/Xutil.h>
#include <Xm.Xm.h>
#include <Xm/Form.h>
#include <X11/Xirisw/GlxMDraw.h>
#include <X11/Xirisw/GlxDraw.h>
#include <X11/keysym.h>
#include <gl/gl.h>
#include <gl/device.h>
#include <math.h>

static XtAppContext app_context;

static XrmOptionDescRec SGIoptions =
	{"-display", "*display", XrmoptionNoArg, "mchip02:0.0"};
static Cardinal num_options = 1;

Widget SGItoplevel, MACtoplevel;

Display *MACdisplay;

main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	SGItoplevel = XtAppInitialize
	(
		&app_context,
		"GLcanvas",
		&SGIoptions,
		num_options,
		&argc, argv,
		NULL, /* instead of fallback_resources */
		NULL,
		0
	);

	MACdisplay = XtOpenDisplay(&app_context, "Display_Canvas",
		"glcanvas", "GLcanvas", NULL, 0, &argc, argv);
	MACtoplevel = XtAppCreateShell("glcanvas", "GLcanvas",
		topLevelShellWidgetClass, MACdisplay, NULL, 0);
}

I appreciate any help anyone can give. Please reply via email:
	siegel@med.nyu.edu
	Chris Siegel
	NYU School of Medicine
From: portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Getting GL to X terminals
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:05:29 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

In article <31546@adm.brl.mil>, andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu (Kim
Andersen) writes:
|> I have several IRISes.  I have more than several
|> researchers who need to use these machines for
|> molecular modeling.  I have many academic-domain LARGE
|> programs for molecular modeling.  I cannot even begin to
|> convert these from GL-code to X-code.  If I could run
|> these programs UNCHANGED on X-terminals (yes, I know it
|> would be slow), every one of our researchers could have
|> his own X-terminal to work on, rather than
|> waiting in line for an IRIS.

I hate to say it, but in the scenario you describe, every
one of your researchers would refuse to use the X terminals
for their work, becuase they would be two, three or even
more orders of *magnitude* slower than their IRIS (depending
on the model you're comparing them to) for the same task.

The X imaging model is very good for boxes, lines and
circles, but it was not designed for handling 3D graphics.
Any type of graphics which goes beyond (non-antialiased)
wireframes or simple flat shaded polygons is going to have
atrociously bad performance.  And keep in mind that most
GL applications redraw the entire screen for every frame
of animation.

Is this really what you want?  Which would you rather have,
a subset of GL running on top of X with poor to unusable
performance, or a cheap box that can run both X and GL? 
I'd say it's easier (and certainly better for our business
plan) to do the latter than the former.

It sounds like you really want an inexpensive way to get
GL to a lot of people, not necessarily a way to run GL on
X terminals.  Part of the motivation for OpenGL is to allow
vendors to offer inexpensive GL-compatible systems.

By the time we could have a GL-on-top-of-X product available
on the market, OpenGL will be available from several different
workstation and graphics terminal vendors, and we will
probably have a new generation of cheaper machines to offer
as well.

I understand your frustration, but please understand that
we're trying to solve the problem in a way that will satisfy
the customer's needs in the best way, while at the same time
being a good part of our business plan.  In this case,
patience is a virtue.

m.

-- 
Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com
From: guest@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Need help for VideoLab
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:32:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, NCU, Taiwan, R.O.C.

Hi, everyone:
      Our lab is planning to order a VideoLab for a 320/VGX but we recently
      heard that product can't support the function of capturing single frame
      from input video. It is different from data sheet that we got from
      local distributor and the NEWS RELEASE released by SGI company in which
      "Video can digitized to the screen at real-time video rates or stored on
      disk or in memory as SINGLE IMAGES or SETS OF IMAGES" was reported.
      Could anyone tell me what is the difference or the truth?  Compared to
      VideoFrame and VideoCreator,  what's the improved function of VideoLab ?
      The last	question is why the VideoLab don't provide the video format of
      NTSC or PAL? Is there any method to convert NTSC or PAL to the format
      provided by VideoLab when we must use it?


      Any help will be much appreciated.

      J. R. Liao   engineer@amy.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
Subject: Re: Term software for binary xfers
Organization: Alias Research, Inc., Toronto ON Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:27:18 GMT

In <SCOTTH.92Jul13081916@hoshi.corp.sgi.com> scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry) writes:


>   How do I download [binary] data with my Indigo?

>Take a binary (like kermit), uuencode it, use %get in cu, then
>uudecode it.

Or, the 1.2.4 version of pcomm for UNIX, available from your favourite
Internet archive site, compiles and runs OK on SGIs. There are some strange
quirks, but they're ignorable. Then, get the rzsz Zmodem software from the
same archive site, compile it, and at it to the "External Transfer Programs"
menu for PComm.

Using this setup (and T2500s) I've transfered about 100Mb of stuff from
offsite to an SGI box over the last while. It's both faster and more
convenient than the uuencode/%get options.

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From: tone@m.mscs.mu.edu (Peter Tonellato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: FAQ and SUN <-> SGI c. tape read/write.
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:26:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: spool.3631
Reply-To: tone@m.mscs.mu.edu (Peter Tonellato)
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Originator: tone@m.mscs.mu.edu

1.)

I am new to the S.G.I. platform and am interested in learning
some basics. I have not seen an FAQ file posted to this group 
yet. Does one exist? If so, is there an archive site I can
get it from?

2.)

The S.G.I. I am working on is not (at this time) on the internet.
This of course, creates havoc with up-downloading data from the
CRAY we are working on. My best-guess solution at this point is
to write (tar) tapes on a SUN (that is on the internet) and
read the tape on the S.G.I. Can someone who has done this please 
e-mail the details? Of course, I am assuming it can be done. 

BTW: Both machines use DC6150 600 ft. extra density (150 MB) tapes
and consequently must have cartridge tape drivers to match.

I would appreciate direct e-mail responses. I do not monitor this
group and only need responses to these two explicit questions (at
this time.) If requested I will be glad to summarize and post.

THank You,

Peter J. Tonellato

US Mail: Department of Mathematics, Statistics and Computer Science
         Marquette University
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From: mccann@oc.nps.navy.mil (Mike McCann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Getting hardware ethernet address under IRIX 4.0.1
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:50:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA
Originator: mccann@oc.nps.navy.mil

How does one go about getting the hardware ethernet address for a 
machine?  The man page for arp(1M) tells you what to do with it
but not how to get it.  
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From: regli@bedlam.cme.nist.gov (William Regli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: need f77 for IRIS 4.0.1
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:46:49 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: National Institute for Standards and Technology


I'd like to get a copy of the f77 compiler for my IRIS.  Does anyone
know where I can ftp myself a copy?

Thanks in advance.

b
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