HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: albers@ka3ovk (Jon Albers)
Subject: Help with Novell to TCP/IP-SMTP: More info
Reply-To: albers@ka3ovk.UUCP (Jon Albers)
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 21:35:28 GMT


OK, I have learned some more about what's going on with the Novell LAN I am
trying to get SMTP going on.  They are running version 3.11 currently.  They
have CC:Mail running right now for mail within the network, but are willing
to change to a different package if it will solve the problems.  Several
replies I got refer to Pegasus Mail and Charon as a solution, and I am
looking into obtaining it (anyone have it via anonymous uucp?).  Is this
a/the nest solution?  Can they continue to use CC:Mail?

							Jon
Organization: Old Dominion University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 11:34:07 EDT
From: <KRS100S@ODUVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: RPRINTER Prob with Novell 3.11


We are experiencing a problem in Novell 3.11 regarding RPRINTER on
a workstation servicing a network printer.  Intermittenly, print jobs
hang up in the print queue requiring a reboot of the workstation to
pickup jobs hung up in the print queue.  When a job hangs, PCONSOLE
shows this network printer as being offline or out of paper which is NOT
the case.  This printer server services THREE remote printers with all of
them having this similar problems on occasion.  Is there there a BUG in
RPRINTER or a LATER version of it out????  Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated .....

Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: fred@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Fred Whiteside)
Subject: Re: ODINSUP Without LAN Manager...Possible? 
Reply-To: fred@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Fred Whiteside) 
Organization: Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd. 
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:29:48 GMT

In <=gyjv9g.westes@netcom.com>, westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Maybe some of the TCP developers who lurk around
>here could chip in and tell us why they support NDIS but not ODI?  Either
>Novell is not giving you what you need, or else we should be seeing the
>ODI versions of your stacks "real soon now." :)

	Beame & Whiteside Software supports both NDIS and ODI drivers,
in addition to packet drivers.  The ODI support was added at version 2.3.
I'm fairly certain that FTP Software and Sun also support these drivers
(please correct me if I'm wrong; I've had my head in source code since
connectathon and may well have lost touch).  I just don't recollect for
the others like Wollongong, Chameleon, etc.  Sorry about that :-)

	Fred Whiteside
	Beame & Whiteside Software, Ltd.
-- 
Fred Whiteside   Beame & Whiteside Software Ltd., Caledonia, Ontario
whitesid@{mcmaster.ca,darwin.cmh.mcmaster.ca,130.113.2.18}
fred@maccs.DCSS.McMaster.CA   ...!uunet!utai!utgpu!maccs!fred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: troy@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Troy Baalham)
Subject:  Excelerator 1.9E Novell printing???
Keywords: novell excelerator
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:12:35 GMT


We have recently upgraded one of our student Novell labs to Novell 3.11.
The network supports some 20 pc's and we also have a HP LaserJet IIISi
(with Postscript support). The problem we seem to be having occurs when
we try to print to a postscript device from Excelerator (V 1.9E).
Printing is setup so that print jobs are captured from LPT1 of each pc
and spooled via Novell.  When a print job is sent from Excelerator,
Novell seems to ignore certain settings of the print job.  In the setup
for the Novell printjob (using printcon) that Excelerator uses, the mode
setting is set such that it makes the printer to switch to Postscript
emulation (as opposed to HP-PCL5).  All other software using this print
job have no problems; the job is spooled, the printer switches languages
from PCL to Postscript, the job is printed, and the printer switches
back to PCL.  Only Excelerator chooses to ignore the language switch
command, and the result is reams and reams of raw postscript text.  Has
anyone else encountered this problem, and if so, how did you get around
it.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.....

   +------------------------------+------------------------------------+
   | Troy Baalham		  |                ___	               |	
   | System Programmer            |               (0 0)	               |
   | Griffith University 	  |              (  V  )               |       
   | Brisbane, QLD, Australia	  |            ====W=W=====            |       
   | Email: troy@cit.gu.edu.au	  |                                    |       
   +------------------------------+------------------------------------+

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lam@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Re: Help on installing NW386 v3.11 on an IDE drive.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:02:47 GMT

opto1k@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:

>I am trying to install NW 386 v3.11 on a 386/33 MHz clone equipped with 4 MB
>RAM and 120 MB Conner Hard drive. (Hard drive setup as user defined TYPE 47).
>I created a 4 MB DOS partition for booting NWare from the hard drive. I 
>proceeded with the following steps next:
>1.  Ran SERVER from the distribution disk
>2.  Loaded ISADISK.DSK at the ":" prompt and responded to default values
>    for the address (1F0) and interrupt (E).

You might try the isadisk /b option which sets it up to use BIOS calls(I think)
instead of direct hardware calls. or even better you might get the IDE.dsk
driver avaliable from a number of ftpsites(you might try splicer.cba.hawaii.edu
or look at the netlabs(netlab1.usu.edu,netlab.usu.edu,netlab2.usu.edu)

>3.  Loaded the INSTALL nlm and selected "Drive Option" from the Main menu.
>    next, selected the "Partition Table" under "Available Drive Option".
>    At this point, I get the following message on the screen:
>	THERE ARE NO ACCESSIBLE DISK DRIVES, CHECK TO SEE THAT THE
>      DRIVES ARE PROPERLY ATTACHED, TURNED ON, AND THAT THE CORRECT
>      DISK DRIVERS ARE LOADED. PRESS ALT-ESC TO SWITCH TO THE 
>      CONSOLE SCREEN IF YOU NEED TO LOAD A DISK DRIVER.

>I can boot from the 4 MB DOS partition created on the hard drive, so I 
>know the hard drive is installed properly. Is there anything obvious that I 
>may be missing? I am following the installation manual very closely. Any
>help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Ken

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ken Lam
SSQL Network Administrator                                  klam@uiucvmd(bitnet)
Manager, System Services                          lam@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu(Internet)
From: lam@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NETSCAN89B and NET$OBJ.SYS
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:47:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rossiter_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

[lines deleted]

>Is anyone aware of a way around this problem, or can anyone detail how
>NET$OBJ.SYS can be closed while the network remains up.

There is a utility which is called bindclos.exe and bindopen.exe which will
close the bindery to do just such a thing as to copy them or scan them.
Note that you can't delete them or write to them even while they are in the
unused state.  Note, that server services are limited because any access to
the bindery is met with a message the bindery is closed bye the supervisor or
something like that.  Remember to open them up again.

Oh, point of interest, since no one other that the OS can write to the 
bindery files, there is "no" way to infect them(99.9% true).  But if you
want to scan them run bindfix and using filer flag the bindery files 
supervisor only while giving a user read filescan rights everywhere else.
Then you won't run into a problem.  I have such a user and it is set up
to run netscan and logout immediately afterwards.

Ken

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ken Lam
SSQL Network Administrator                                  klam@uiucvmd(bitnet)
Manager, System Services                          lam@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu(Internet)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:3543 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:2952
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: ODINSUP Without LAN Manager...Possible?
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:10:26 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

I am trying to get ODINSUP running on top of ODI, and the documentation
for ODINSUP - as well as error messages from ODINSUP - seem to imply
that ODINSUP requires LAN manager (i.e., protman.sys, protocol.ini,
netbind.exe, etc.).  It seems to me that this misses half the customers
for the ODINSUP product: there are many of us who do not care about LAN
Manager and have no need to be compatible with it.  Many users of
ODINSUP simply want a clean NDIS layer that they can load a TCP stack on
top of, and then later unload the TCP stack and ODINSUP.

Does the NDIS standard allow some way for the protocol to dynamically
seek out the vectors used by NDIS, or does the protocol need to refer to
protocol.ini and use netbind's services as well?  Is this a matter of
convention or a technical requirement of NDIS?  If the standard requires
it, then so be it.  But if a protocol can look for the NDIS layer at
run-time the way packet driver-compliant protocols do, then it would be
nice to have an ODINSUP that did not require all the LAN Manager
layers.

So far, I am really disappointed in the ODINSUP package.  With
packet drivers it was a simple matter to load a packet driver shim over
my western digital MAC layer driver and then run a protocol directly on
packet drivers.  With ODINSUP, I am taking up memory for ODI and the
layer manager LSL; I am having to hassle with two different
configuration files (net.cfg and protocol.ini); and it is starting to
look like I am somehow going to have to get LAN Manager executables and
device drivers to load the NDIS layer, wasting still more memory.  Life
could be simpler.  

If Novell is trying to show us that they can one-up packet drivers, they 
aren't doing a very good job.  In fact, if I sat down and tried to design 
a MAC layer API that was as awkward for an end-user or network administrator 
to install and maintain as possible, the result might look a lot like the
current ODINSUP.

Will Estes         Internet: westes@netcom.com

P.S. Can someone point me to an FTP site for PROTMAN.EXE?  I found
PROTMAN.SYS, but prefer something that I can unload.
From: schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NetWare NFS, 'PLPD' problem.
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:22:57 GMT
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA

I'm trying to track down a problem I'm having with the
Unix-to-NetWare printing support (PLPD) portion of
NetWare NFS.

I have it working printing from one machine (Sequent S2000/400),
but not from another (Pyramid MIS/2 running dualPort OSx 5.0d).

I received the following error messages on the NFS console of the
NW3.11 fileserver:

PLPD-Error: plpd :Internal Error: LPD Protocol Error :amc-mis : : : E-1
(generated each time I printed)

Then:

PLPD-Error: plpd :Can't open the file :amc-mis : : : E128
PLPD-Error: plpd :RemoveAJob :remove :SYS:etc\plpd\spool\d5c80980.000: E142
(are these errors documented anywhere?)

'0' byte files then started building up in the \etc\plpd\spool dir 
which remain locked by the server (connection 0).

After removing all the print jobs, restarting 'plpd' and doing some
testing I found out that I could only print files smaller than 2K...

Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

-Scott

(A $10,000 OS running a $5,000 product and the vendor wants $150 per
phone call to install and debug it...)



-- 
==============================================================================
Scott Hansen (schansen@amc.com)           Sysop...:  The Crystal Chip 
Applied Microsystems Corporation          BBS.....:  (206) 226-6550    
Redmond, Washington  98073                Voice...:  (206) 882-5322
From: widdicom@ADS.COM (Greg Widdicombe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Loading ODI drivers high
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:36:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ads.1992Apr14.233640.27017
Organization: Guest of Booz, Allen & Hamilton, Inc./Advanced Decision Systems

I frequently load IPX and NETX high (using LH and EMM386), and would
love to load the ODI drivers on other machines high too.

Specifically, the AUTOEXEC looks like:

LSL
SMCPLUS
IPXODI
TCPIP
TELAPI
LH NETX

Has anyone loaded these guys high *AND* successfully used Windows 3.1?

Whenever I try it usually barfs :-(.

t.i.a.

-- Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: morgan@icarus.curtin.edu.au (Bruce Morgan)
Subject: SCSI Express and >16Mb Memory
Keywords: CDROM
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:14:17 GMT

I am using 14 NEC CDROMs on a Netware 3.11 Server using SCSI Express with
Bustek 542B SCSI Controllers (ISA).

I've been very impressed by its performance.  However when I tried to mount 
a further 5 drives I ran out of memory.  The memory on the server has now 
been upgraded to 32Mb.  The memory registers successfully but because of the 
24-bit addressing capability of the Bustek cards an error is created when 
the CDROMs are accessed - something like "HA Error cannot address location 
10DF560".

Is there a new Bustek Disk NLM which provides some software mapping to high 
addresses.  Is there another solution besides getting an EISA machine?

Thanks in Advance

Bruce
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Bruce Morgan       Phone: (09) 351-3190  Internet:Morgan@icarus.curtin.edu.au
 User Consultant    Fax:   (09) 351-2673
 Computing Centre,  Curtin University,  Perth,  Western Australia
From: lwei@pollux.usc.edu (Liming Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Wanted: CNE test student kits
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Date: 15 Apr 1992 15:44:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu
Keywords: CNE, certified netware engineer

I'm willing to buy or lease(say $50 - $150/day/book) the books
mentioned in the subject. I guess if you have already passed the
CNE test or are in the middle of the series, those used books
won't be more useful than the red-cover manuals.
 
If you are interested, please send me an email message to,

  lwei@usc.edu


Thanks,
Liming
From: rpr@st1-par.oce.nl (Rob Prikanowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Archive SBACKUP driver?
Date: 3 Apr 92 07:14:25 GMT
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.


Does anybody know where I can get an additional driver for SBACKUP? I am using
a backup setup from CORE international (Archive 150Mb streamer with an Everex
interface card).

If there is no such driver, I would like to use the DOS tools to backup the
server. Is this possible, given that the backup unit is attached to the server
(and not to one of the workstations)? I.e. can I access (read) the NetWare
partition/volumes from DOS?

Thanks for any info.

Rob Prikanowski
................................................................................

     |   |     Rob Prikanowski (rpr@oce.nl)
   -[ ]-[ ]-      
     |   |     Oce Nederland B.V.         Direct dial: +31 77 593530
               P.O. Box 101               Telefax    : +31 77 595450
               5900 MA Venlo
               The Netherlands

   This note does not necessarily represent the position of
   Oce Nederland B.V. Therefore no liability or responsibility for
   whatever will be accepted.

................................................................................

      ###########################################################
      #  This note does not necessarily represent the position  #
      #     of Oce-Nederland B.V. Therefore no liability or     #
      #      responsibility for whatever will be accepted.      #
      ###########################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: terrya@MCES.MsState.Edu (Terry Arnsdorff)
Subject: Intel Packet Driver
Organization: Mississippi Cooperative Extension Service
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:56:03 GMT

FYI:

PDIPX.COM does not work with WD8003e packet driver and emxnet3,emsnet5,or 
emsnetx.

It does seem to work OK with NET3, NET5 and NETX.

Terry
.--------------------------------.---------------------------------.
|  Terry Arnsdorff               |                                 |
|  <terrya@mces.msstate.edu>     |                                 |
|  LAN Manager                   |  "When all think alike,         |
|  Mississippi Cooperative       |       No one thinks very much"  |
|    Extension Service           |             Walter Lippman      |
|  Mississippi State University  |                                 |
`--------------------------------'---------------------------------'
From: ptrubey@netcom.com (Phil Trubey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP to replace IPX/SPX ?
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:37:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.2_2j+4h.ptrubey
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Apr14.210120.19093@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.163755.1@qis.dofasco.ca> hilbig_t@qis.dofasco.ca writes:
>>I think my original point is being missed; I'm looking for improved
>>interoperability ammong multiple platforms running multiple operating systems.
>>
>>It's not the difference between the two mechanisms that's important, it's the
>>fact that if you have to support multiple protocols.
>
>Yes, i suppose it's this attitude that i'm trying to explore.  The key
>to NetWare is the application protocol, not the transport.  When
>people ask for NetWare on TCP/IP, i'm not sure they've considered that
>that won't help them talk to their UNIX platforms unless someone
>implements NetWare on TCP/IP on the UNIX platform.  And if you're
>implementing NetWare on TCP/IP for UNIX, why not just throw in IPX,
>which is really a trivial piece compared to the NetWare part.  There
>are a number of different products on the market that provide this.

OK, here are some reasons for the attitude...

1. Novell's current transport is inefficient for WAN use as does not
utilize a sliding window ack protocol - I realize this is a transport
issue, not a network level protocol issue, but it sure would be nice
if this could get fixed (I believe Novell is actually addressing this 
problem somehow...)

2. In a large internetwork, setting up routers to route a single protocol
is a lot easier than having to set up things for multiple protocols.

3. PC memory limitations - if you want to run TELNET to access a Unix
machine and also access a netware file server, you must load two
protocol stacks.

4. Remote dial in support.  This is currently *my* hot button.  To
serve the needs for a large group of dial in users, it is
impossible today to satisfy this need with a single dial in server and
modem pool.  If you need to support Macs, NetWare PCs, TCP/IP access
(for those TELNET connections), and say Lan Manager, you need to have
separate dial in solutions today.  

Interestingly enough, this problem can be solved while keeping all those
separate protocols by using a standard underlying protocol like PPP.
-- 

Phil Trubey                   | Internet: ptrubey@netcom.com
Systemhouse Inc.              | Voice:    415-243-8100 (day)  
                              | Fax:      415-243-0471
From: frank@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de (Frank Klapper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NW Lite with packet driver
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:06:03 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld


Has anyone been able to get NWLite to work with packet drivers.
I have tried  'wd8003e' and intels 'pdipx', but it does not work.
Each NWLite PC is isolated.

Frank

--
Frank Klapper,  Computing Center, University of Bielefeld       
                Universitaetsstrasse 25 
                D-4800 Bielefeld 1, Germany

                Phone:  49 (521) 106-4954
                Fax:    49 (521) 106-2969
                E-Mail: frank@noc.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: R1342@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: report ethernet address
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:39:41 GMT

In article <19585@chopin.udel.edu>
jarom@chopin.udel.edu (Carol Jarom) writes:
 
>I'm looking for a command line utility that can be run that
>will report back the ethernet address of the NIC in that
>machine.  I need it to run on a machine that is not hooked up
>to a network or running IPX yet. Is there such a beast?
>Thanks,
>Carol
>jarom@ravel.udel.edu
 
If you have access to anonymous ftp try to ftp to sunee.uwaterloo.ca.
 
There is an apps.zip package that includes tcpport and tcpinfo, which
will give you the ethernet address of your NICs.  All the WATTCP
software is excellent, IMHO.  Try the new ftp.zip alos.  It is FAST!
 
The directory is /pub/wattcp.  give this a try.  You'll like it!
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Rosenfeld  joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu  loki@asgard.csuohio.edu
"we look for things, to make us go."
From: neil@math.mth.pdx.edu (John R. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Incoming modem access to LAN
Summary: What are people's experiences
Keywords: novell, modem, access
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:49:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.neil.4
Organization: Mathematics Department, Portland State University


There has been a lot of traffic lately discussing the relative merits of the 
various options for outgoing modem transactions from a shared modem on the 
LAN.  However, we are interested in going the other direction (dialing into 
the network from the outside).  What I'm wondering is what people's 
experiences have been like doing this?  Also, what sort of hardware/software 
combinations have worked best?  We are running, by the way, NW 3.11 and NW 
for MAC 3.01 and would like both MAC and PC users at home to be able to read 
their e-mail from home on the weekends.

John Neil
Portland State University Math Department
e-mail:  neil@math.mth.pdx.edu
Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 1992 11:19:17 -0400 
From: Luis J Mendez <lm2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Survey

	Sorry for the waste of bandwidth...
	My name is Luis Mendez, student at the Information Networking Institute
at Carnegie Mellon and I am working on a survey for an Industrial
Administration course.  The purpose of the survey is to collect
information regarding the characteristics that industrial customers look
for in a firm from which they plan to buy a product or service and how
those characteristics affect the selection process.  As area of study, I
have chosen computer hardware firms.  It is of my interest to learn what
characteristics are considered by corporations when deciding from which
firm it is desirable to buy computer hardware.  If any of this netnews'
readers is related to hardware purchasing at a company and would like to
participate on this survey, please send me an email and a fax number
where I can reach you, and I will fax you back the questions and all the
information concerning the survey.  Any help you can bring me will be
really appreciated.  Copies of the team's final report will be available
upon request.  Thanks for your help.

	Luis Mendez
	lm2k@andrew.cmu.edu
From: cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: FTP file server...
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:08:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Okay, I've been reading the TCP/IP manual and I am still rather 
confused.  It seems to be running but...

Two cards are in the file server.  One has IP attached and the other
has IPX.  I run TCPCON and the server seems to send and receive
packets.  Now what do I do with it?  I would like to be able to telnet
and/or FTP to the server.  Do I need extra software for this?

Charles

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Charles Marshall            Bitnet: CJMARSHA@FLINT.MINES.COLORADO.EDU
Information Services        Usenet: CJMARSHA@SLATE.MINES.COLORADO.EDU
Colorado School of Mines