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From:         "Marcy R. Mingee" <MARCY@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Organization: Resource Protection Department
Subject:      Token Ring vs. Ethernet

Is Token Ring or Ethernet better than the other?  Why?

Marcy R. Mingee
System Engineer
Computer Data System, Inc.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:34:27 CST
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From:         "Philip H. Kachelmyer" <phk@BOOMBOX.MICRO.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FTP Question

In message <9301110731.AA25756@boombox.micro.umn.edu> Novell LAN Interest Group
writes:
> I am using NCSA Telnet version 2.3.05.  Very rarely have I used FTP to
> upload files to a remote system until lately and this is what I have
> discovered.
>
> I have an ACSII test file approx. 672,000 bytes in size on my local disk.
>  Uploading to our VAX takes almost 23 minutes.  When I download the same
> file from the VAX to my local disk it only takes 27 seconds.
>
> Can anyone explain this.
>
> John

What hardware are you using?  Ie., computer, network interface card, server,
bridges, etc.


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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: colorado memory systems

>I am investigating back up tape drives for a 500 meg. Novell server and my
>local dealer has recommended a Colorado Memory Systems' PowerTape 2400,
>model PT25.  This is a 1.2 gig capacity tape backup with an average
>transfer rate of 10-15 megs/minute (or so they claim). My questions are:
>has anyone used this particular drive and what experiences have you had.
>Secondly, has anyone had particularly good or bad experiences dealing with
>Colorado Memory Systems.  thanks.
-----------
        I think a number of people would be interested in the answers to
this question.
        Something to be kept in mind. As I read the trade press this model
tape drive does obey QIC standards. This means, in part, that the tape is
accessed in serpentine fashion: down one pair of tracks, reverse, lower
the head, up another pair, repeat at the other end, and so on. Thus on
average, unquote, you have to sequentially read the tape many times to find
the desired location. This takes time, lots, and increases head wear. There
is a Quick File Access standard which says allocate a big directory block
at the beginning of the tape to hold pointers to info in the regular part.
DAT's use this because each frame (burst of recording, tiny) has an index
number which can be read during fast scanning. QIC stuff does not, at least
not on my mere 150/250 MB Archive unit, but my Archive DAT exploits it to the
hilt for fast access. Maybe this has improved in the supercapacity QIC units.
        Another factor I considered when purchasing a tape drive was the
cost of media, since in the long run this would be more than the drive. Thus
check prices on cartridges. QIC DC-600 tapes cost around $25, DAT DDS tapes
are half that price, the 1.2G QIC cartridges are obviously more expensive.
        Finally I wanted flexibility so I chose SCSI (I'm almost entirely
that way) and backup software which supports SCSI and knows about NW details.
This lets me move the DAT drive from DOS workstation (normal home) to server
(SBACKUP stuff, yuck, but a redudant backup method), to Unix box, to VMS VAX.
I do NW backups from the workstation as a matter of course (daily incrementals,
monthly fulls). Thus I chose an external unit which could be unplugged and
carried to the next machine.
        Elements of the above should go into a careful analysis of a backup
system.
        Joe D.
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From:         cvanov2@CCMAIL.BAMANET.UA.EDU
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM software

>I sent a message out a while ago if anyone had any information on CD-ROM
>software.  I want mount both Mac and IBM CD's on an 3.11 server via SCSI.
>Have all the hardware, but am looking for the software/NLM.

>Any ideas?


There is a version of SCSI-EXPRESS in BETA that supports both MAC and IBM CD's.
It is supposed to be available in February.

Chris Vanover, CNE
The University of Alabama
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From: OKKOLA@katk.helsinki.fi (Tapio Okkola)
Subject: Re: LANalyzer for NetWare
Organization: Helsinki University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:45:37 GMT

In article <Pine.3.05.9301041543.A3760-9100000@eos.arb.ca.gov> Allen Lung <lung@EOS.ARB.CA.GOV> writes:
>Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:03:43 -0800
>From:         Allen Lung <lung@EOS.ARB.CA.GOV>
>Subject:      LANalyzer for NetWare
>Server Isss_lan01 no longer responds
>
>The above messages is what the LANalyzer for NetWare is displaying.  The
>File Server is in service and people are working with no complaints.  Any
>Ideas are Welcome.
>
Your server did not answer to lanalyzers "ping". 

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From:         "Howard A. Rollins, Jr." <HOWARD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      relation of mac, unix and dos files

Here is a new question, I think.  We are running netware 3.11 with
the mac and nfs name spaces loaded.  I have a very savy user who
at various times uses macs, pcs, but primarily a sun workstation.  He
now has soft pc and a mac emulator running on his sun workstation.
When we export the novell file system to his sun workstation, he can
save and retrieve unix files and applications.  Furthermore, pc
applications running under softpc can also access pc files and
pc applications located on the novell server can be launched from
within softpc without difficulty.  However, the mac emulator has not
worked quite as well.  Mac applications located on the novell server
are not recognized as mac applications by this mac emulator.
Furthermore, files created on the server by a mac application on a
mac show up as dos files on the desktop of the mac
emulator.

Question then is this:  When netware's nfs export of the file system
takes place, how is it exporting mac files (are the data and resource
forks both being exported for mac files?).  Apparently, this would
happen on unix servers containing mac files but looks like it is not
happening on netware servers.

Any help appreciated.














Howard Rollins                      Phone: 404-727-7437
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Emory University                           or
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:37:08 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: router error

>I have just upgraded from netware 2.2 to 3.11. The server is attached
>through one ethernet card to our extended campus network (1 wire
>basically). There is another 3.11 server out there somewhere. When it
>came up when I was using 2.2 I received router configuration errors
>stating that Router at node xxxx claims that network 0000aa1 should
>be 0000AA1.
>
>I know (or think) that my server should be set at the same network
>number since we are essentially on the same wire. But when I add that
>to the autoexec.ncf file and bring up the new 3.11 server, it stops and
>gives the mesage that the network is in use and I must choose a new
>number. When I do that, the server boots, but I receive the router
>error messages continually. I tried to unbind ipx and rebind to
>the AAA1 network number, but it won't let me until I issue a different
>network number.
>
>HELP
>
>John Rutherford
>CCSU
-----------
        I think the problem is confusing the NW 3.x internal node number with
the wire's network number. Here is a sample from a server:

file server name EDU-USU-NETLAB2
ipx internal net 817b012c               <<< internal NW number, must be unique
        ...
load ne2000 int=5 port=360 frame=Ethernet_II name=bbone
bind ipx bbone net=817bfe00             <<< Wire network number, same for every
                                        server on that (logical) wire.

        Joe D.
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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Maynard failure

I have not had good luck with tape drives in general.  We used a HP drive that
would get about 5 backups on the tape before it would be junk.  I have dropped
the idea of purchasing a dat drive for those concerns.  I really like spending
20 or more bucks on a tape that will not last more than one week.  One tape we
had lasted two weeks doing dailys on it but that was the exception.

Nothing like going for a backup tape for a restore and finding that it is a
dead tape.
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From:         Rita Schnepp <SCHNEPP@PEPVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Ethernet over level 5 cable

We are installing level 5 twisted pair cabling (100 mbit/sec) into
a new building on our campus.  In the future we wish to run CDDI/CUDDI
 (100 mbit/sec) protocol over this.  For now we will be using the Ethernet
(10 mbit/sec) protocol over the level 5 cable.
Is anyone out there running ethernet over level 5 right now??  How is it
working?  What are common problems or patterns we should be aware of?
On the level 5, do you need a repeater every 75 ft.?  Thanks for any info.
Please send direct to schnepp@pepvax.pepperdine.edu      I will summarize
for the list.
.
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:23:50 -0800
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From:         John Villalovos <villalj@INSTRUCTION.CS.ORST.EDU>
Organization: Oregon State University
Subject: Re: Volume Sizes

In article <9301120045.AA02109@stealth.dsi.bc.ca> you write:
>I have a question concerning the maximum recommended sizes of volumes on Novell
>3.11 servers.  I am installing two 1.6 Gig drives and are considering
>making each of them a single volume and using the dspace command to limit the
>size of project directories.  The advantages of doing this is that as projects
>grow you can reallocate disk space as required instead of having to redo the
>disk partitions.  My concern is that this will increase the effects of
>fragmentation and will cause slower response if files from a single directory
>are scattered across the entire disk.  Any advice on this matter will be
>appreciated!

Why don't you just span the drives?  Only due that if you have a good backup
system though.  That way you could have one 3.2 Gig Volume size.  Makes things
easier I think.

Later,
--
John Villalovos
Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
(503) 753-7883
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:40:04 MET
Reply-To:     Douwe Fokkinga <d.j.fokkinga@RC.RUG.NL>
From:         Douwe Fokkinga - RC RuG <FOKKINGA@RC.RUG.NL>
Subject:      Re: NetWare v3.11 Server-to-Server Info Requested

>     Somewhere I remember hearing that it is possible, and preferable to
> install NetWare v3.11 from an existing server - if you are installing
> serveral systems.

hmm, I thought it was...

- login your "would be" server to another server
- start server.exe (don't load network drivers!)
- load install -j
               ^^^ this is the trick
(FILES.DAT is used for navigation and can be modified to yor need)
There you go installing a server from another server..fast and handy.

douwe
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From:         Allen Lung <lung@EOS.ARB.CA.GOV>
Subject:      LANalyzer Patch

Problem with changing of the year.  This patch is at ftp site
130.57.196.130 the file name is squery.dll.  Replace with the old file of
the same name.

Allen Lung
Ca Air Resources Board
2020 L St.
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(916)322-7056
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:09:00 LCL
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From:         "User1, Demo" <DEMO1.ILS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Lab Configuration

Does anyone know of a PC instructional lab configured along the lines of
a language lab, i.e. in addition to audio-communication between
instructor and one or more students with the use of headsets, instructors
can send instructions on-screen and can view student screens.  The
capability to send instructions on-screen, preferably through split
screens, is the most important feature desired.

Also - does anyone support Windows based applications that work in a
similar fashion?

--Scott Barker
Information and Library Science, UNC
barker@ils.unc.edu
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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: Token Ring vs. Ethernet
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:05:44 GMT

In article <C0r7LL.Mrp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> abreen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alex Breen) writes:
>"Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET> writes:
>>Token ring is better for a smaller network....
>
>     I disagree.  I would say just the opposite!!  My experience has been
>that ethernet is good for smaller networks...

With all the claims and counter-claims i've heard about Ethernet vs.
Token-ring, i've come to the conclusion that from an operational point
of view, there's not a significant amount of difference between them.
Consequently, i'd think the determining factors would be cost and
availability, both of which seem to come down very heavily in favor of
Ethernet.

That's just my opinion, of course.  Novell supports both Ethernet and
Token-ring with equal enthusiasm....
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:42:31 -0600
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From:         MFTJS@ECNUXA.BITNET
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Subject:      Re: Menuing packages. (Feedback requested)

I used automenu from McGee Enterprizes on my first installation and it
was successful.  You might try that.  It is shareware and allows a user
to have one global menu for all users and a local one for each user.

Thanks for your Message.                               Keep in Touch.
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From:         Richard Warner <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: colorado memory systems
              11, 93 11:17 am

> I am investigating back up tape drives for a 500 meg. Novell server and my
> local dealer has recommended a Colorado Memory Systems' PowerTape 2400,
> model PT25.  This is a 1.2 gig capacity tape backup with an average
> transfer rate of 10-15 megs/minute (or so they claim). My questions are:
> has anyone used this particular drive and what experiences have you had.
> Secondly, has anyone had particularly good or bad experiences dealing with
> Colorado Memory Systems.  thanks.

I have not used this drive, but I have had reasonably good
experiences with CMS over the years, both on tape drives and
disk drives.  CMS was bought out by HP recently, and that
may cause things to change, one way or the other.

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From:         Mark Oakley <oakleym@MARVIN.EDGE-HILL-COLLEGE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Charon 4.0

Help! I've just started trying to configure a Charon gateway. The
first problem I have is that I get an error message saying:-

"Warn: Error 0x10f0 from Attach to File server ...."

I'm using version 10 of the packet drivers on a WD8003 card, version
3.10 of ipx and 3.26 of netx. Any thoughts?

TIA

Mark Oakley

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:17:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.wariat.org>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
Subject:      Upgrade to 3.11

AL>From:         Allen Lung <lung@EOS.ARB.CA.GOV>
AL>Subject:      Upgrade to 3.11

AL>Is there a problem with having a printer attached to a 3.11 server.
AL>currently I have a 2.15 server with a printer attached will this function
AL>after the 3.11 upgrade.

    No problem.  Just use the PSERVER.NLM supplied (or an updated
version.)

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From:         Claire_Mizumoto@VC-OFFICE.UCSD.EDU
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM software

Micro Design International's SCSI Express is the only Novell Certified
CD-ROM.  The CD-ROM is accessed as a regular Netware volume.  Software is
installed by copying files to the server's hard disk--doesn't need to
install drivers on the workstations.  ..no first-hand knowledge...YET.

Claire Mizumoto
University of CA, San Diego
cmizumoto@ucsd.edu
I sent a message out a while ago if anyone had any information on CD-ROM
software.  I want mount both Mac and IBM CD's on an 3.11 server via SCSI.
Have all the hardware, but am looking for the software/NLM.

Any ideas?

Blake Swensen
Lewis & Clark College
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From:         Don Kazem <DKAZEM@NAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Windows for Workgroups and Novell

All this talk today about WFW and the ODIs made spend some mental chips
thinking about the issue.  I too tried to make WFW- ODINSUP  combination and it
did not work. I think I may have even posted a message to the list about it.
When I called Microsoft about it, they said that they will not be supporting
the ODI drivers, and that their solution was NDIS.

But today I realized something else. Before the holidays, we tested and
approved
the new IBM Token Ring card for use in our network. When testing it, I had some
difficulty making it work with IPX.COM and when I called IBM they said that
they only supported the ODI drivers to connect to a Novell file server.

So does this mean  the new IBM Token Ring card and WFW can not be used to
connect to a Novell file server or am I missing a part of the picture?

F.Don Kazem-Zadeh
National Academy of Sciences
Washington, DC
dkazem@nas.edu
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