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From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: MUSLUMAN GELENEKLERI
Keywords: none
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:06:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <1993Jan7.014009.19374@utkux1.utk.edu> benan@felix.engr.utk.edu (Benan Basoglu) writes:
|In article <Jan07.004833.53128@meng.emory.edu>, mario@meng.emory.edu (** maestro **) writes:
||> 
||> 
||> 
||> Oyle ya, su cennet bakiniz,neresinden bakarsaniz bakiniz bir Arap cenneti!
||> Vaha,hurma,su dibi,golge,serinlik..Cehennem col cehennemi,sicak,alev,ates
||> filan..Oysa cennette sedirler,minderler,av etleri..Neden hurma var da,
||> ananas,kiwi,guava,avakado yok? Hadi bakalim!
||> 
||> Maestro Can
|
|Kiwi, guava, avakado olmadigini nerden biliyorsun? Ruyanda mi gordun?
|
|Benan BASOGLU

Sayilan meyvalar olsa ne olur olmasa ne, Maestro icin. Gariban illa ki
zakkum meyvasinda israr ettikten sonra farkeden bir $ey yok!

Sahi Maestro fazla kizginlik insanin beyin hucrelerini fazla tahrip
ettigi icin erken ya$lanmaya neden oluyormu$. Haberin ola.

Beytullah
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri  
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:32:44 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

> In article <102936.49853.17425@kcbbs.gen.nz>  
> Hakki_Kocakelle@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocakelle writes);  
>   
> > Huu-Bey'den huuular DINle....butun bu kuruntularin gecer :-)    
>   
>    
> Iyi dinle, Kocakelle. Soyleyecek baska seyin kalmamissa, agzini  
> kapali tut (parmaklarin hangi tuslara bastigini bilsin).  
  
O tusa basma!, bu tusa basma!  
Ananin a mi basicaz lan !  
  
>    hubey
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Position Available (from Haluk)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:39:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:44:00 EST
> >From: "Alan_W.Fisher" <22302AWF@EARN.MSU>


  KEMAL ATATURK CHAIR
         OTTOMAN AND MODERN TURKISH STUDIES

 The Department of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University invites
 applications to fill a newly endowed chair in Ottoman and modern Turkish
 studies, to begin September 1, 1993.

 Research specialty may be in any field of ottoman or modern Turkish studies.
 The appointee will be expected to teach a broad range of subjects and
 periods at graduate and undergraduate levels.

 Send letter of application, curriculum vitae, and have 3 referees write
 directly to:

 Ataturk Search Committee
 Department of Near Eastern Studies
 110 Jones Hall
 Princeton University
 Princeton, NJ 08544

 The deadline for receipt of all materials in March 1, 1993.

 Princeton University is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer
             _
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From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven U. Grenander)
Subject: Re: FREE STOCKS NEWSLETTER!
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:51:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.172156.360@news.acns.nwu.edu>, kanth@andersen.uucp
(Kanth Miriyala) wrote:
>
>...................
>
> It is free!
> 
> It is monthly!
> 
> It comes by email!
> 
> Here is a complete list of our recommendations for November and December 1992.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Company     Date Rec.   Rec. Price    Hi since    % Chng at Hi    Curr. Price 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Coachmen     11/92         10         17.63          +76.3           17.25    
> (COA/NYSE)
> Audiovox     11/92         5.13        8.75          +70              7.25 
> (VOX/AMEX)
> SunwardTec   12/92         1.94        3.25          +67.5            2.63  
> (SUNT/NASDAQ)
> Seagate      12/92         21.88       22.38      Sold out at stop-loss (-10%)
> (SGAT/NASDAQ)
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>...............
> a brokerage account, when to buy, when to sell, 
> and so on. 
> 
> What is the catch?
> 
> This is the first time we are writing the section "Basics of Stocks"
>.............


How do you convince your subscribers that you aren't operating a "Heard on
Wall Street" scam ?  

For those of you who aren't familiar with it, the "Heard on Wall Street"
scam was one where friends/insiders were told what would appear in the
following days article. With this foreknowledge they made a nice profit by
selling short or buying in anticipation of the subscribers' reactions to
what was written when the article finally hit the news stands.

I grant you that a few 100 subscribers is not likely to give much direction
to the market, but I am still curious.

You never did say what your objective was.

-Sven
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: haberler / news
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:46:34 GMT

In article <9301110513.AA13512@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> writes:
>    -Arap inadiyla savas. Ozal ve Disisleri, Bosna'yi
>oncelikle gundeme almayan Araplari boykot tehdidiyle ikna
>etti. Bosna umurlarinda degil. 11 Ocak'ta Senegal'in
>baskenti Dakar'da toplanacak olan Islam Zirvesinde Bosna'nin
>gormemezlikten gelinmesi, Cumhurbaskani Ozal'i hayal
>kirikligina ugratti. Filistin Kurtulus Orgutu'nun

>ama Bosna'da binlerce Musluman olduruluyor, Musluman
>kadinlarin irzina geciliyor. Hangisi daha vahim diye sordu?
>Ozal'in girisimlerine oncelikle orgutteki Araplar direnis
>gosterdi. Telefonla Rafsancani, Kral Fahad ve Husnu
>Mubarek'i arayan Cumhurbaskani Ozal, bu liderlerden destek
>istedi. Araplarin duyarligina tepki gosteren Cumhurbaskani,
>boyle olursa zirveye katilmam dedi. Sonunda Turkiye'nin
>dedigi oldu. Izzetbrgovic toplantiya katilacak ve zirve,
>Ozal'in dedigi gibi basina acik yapilacak.

Iste Islam "milleti" nasil oluyormus. Iste Islam dunyasi Bosna'da
katledilen dindaslarina nasil yakinlik gosteriyormus. Iste 
Turkiye'nin dondurulmek istedigi Islam ulkeleri kardesleri
katledilince boyle tepki gosterirlermis.  

>hissettirmis oluyor. Zirve ise iki sorunun golgesinde
>toplaniyor: Bosna-Hersek'te Sirplarin aylardir surdurdugu
>katliam 15 Ocak'a kadar durmazsa Islam Dunyasi BM karari
>olmadan askeri mudahale yapabilir mi? Ya da Disisleri Bakani
>Hikmet Cetin'in soyledigi gibi Bati'ya bir ambargo
>uyguluyabilir mi? Gercekten bu iki soru da Islam ulkeleri
>acisindan bir sinav niteligi tasiyor.

Gorecegiz...

>    -Trabzon'da kanser artisi %109. Vali Kemal Esensoy,
>gecen eylul ayinda Saglik Bakanligi'na yaptigi resmi
>basvuruda Cernobil faciasini takip eden yillarda baslayan
>kanser vakalarinin 1991-1992 yillarinda yuzde 109 arttigini,
>istatstiki verilerle ortaya koydu.

Halbuki zamanin milliyetci-muhafazakar saglik bakani, "radyasyonun
azinin yarari bile vardir" diyordu. Radyasyonlu cayi ( goya ) da
iciyordu. Uzmeyin caninizi, Turk'e birsey olmaz. Bu sark 
kafasiyla gidilirse daha cok sey olur.
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: yeni liste duyurusu (fwd)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:43:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> From VM.USC.EDU!LISTSERV Mon Jan  4 02:24:38 1993
> Message-Id: <9301040819.AA02961@uu.psi.com>
> Date:         Mon, 04 Jan 93 10:38:41 TSI
> From: Filiz akgun <SYSOP%TRITU.BITNET@VM.USC.EDU>
> Subject:      yeni liste duyurusu
> To: trknws-l@VM.USC.EDU


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  Siir tutkunlarina mujde...

  ITU'deki listserv'de bir siir listesi kurulmustur.
  Her isteyenin uye olabilecegi bu listeye kisisel siirlerin yanisira,
  cesitli sairlerin yapitlari da yollanabilir.
  Siir ve siir akimlari uzerine tartisma da gene bu liste kapsami
  icindedir.

  Uye olmak icin LISTSERV@TRITU.BITNET adresine

               SUB SIIR-L <AD SOYAD>

  komutunu yollamak yeterlidir.


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 FILIZ AKGUN SYSOP@TRITU.BITNET
From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:18:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

|In article <C0EApM.586@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut) writes:
||In article <14003.9301051440@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
||>In article <25772.9301042105@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
||>|
||>|Peygamberimizin (SAV) tavsiyesi olan hediye verme guzel bir sunnettir.
||>|Ve dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur. Ben $ahsen onlarin
||>|ozellikle kutsal diye kabul ettikleri, Allah a (CC) $irk ko$tuklari bu
||>|gunlerde herhangi bir kimseye hediye vermekten (onlara benzememek icin)
||>|bir musluman olarak haya ederim. Tabi buna kar$i cikan olabilir. Herkes
||>|dilediginde serbesttir.
||>|
||>|Beytullah
||>|
||>
||>Yukarida yanli$ anlamaya meydan vermemek icin bir duzeltme yapmak
||>istiyorum. Dini bayramlarda verilir diye bir kaide yoktur derken,
||>hristiyanlarin yaptigi $ekilde verilmesi diye bir olay yoktur yani onlar
||>hediyeyi verirken hediye bilindigi gibi father christmas dedikleri ki$i
||

||Ona  father christmas demezler. Turkiye'de noel baba deneni ingilizceye
||mot-a-mot cevirirseniz oyle olur. Asli ise Santa Claus olacak. Almanlar 
||da Sankt Nikolaus der. 
||

Ona Santa Claus da derler Father Christmas da
Santa Claus derlerse father christmasi kimler sever
Father christmas diyerek cocuklara papazi nasil sevdirirler

Lutfen yazmadan once bir sozluge, lugate veya dictionary ye bak (belki
anla$ilmaz diye hepsini yazdim) ondan sonra karala.

Bravo be once Kaya Ingilizleri Ingilizceden anlamaz yapti ayeti
carpitmasina kilif aradi, sonra Maestro hayat bilgisi kitabindan haberi
olmadigi halde haddi olmadan Ingilizceye takti. $imdi de siz. 

Bazi $eylerin dilde degi$ik kelimelerle anlatilabildigini
biliyorsunuzdur umarim. Mesela ornegin bir misalle orneklendirmeye
kalksak diye konu$unca mi anla$ilacagiz bilmiyorum.

Beytullah


|
||
||
||-- 
||Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
||Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
||Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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|
|Saygilarimla
|
|Ercan
|
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: Cumhuriyet Gazetesi ve 'Deliler Kimden Korkar?'
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:16:55 GMT

In article <9301060550.AA03159@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> KELLY@SUVM.SYR.EDU writes:
>    opposed by Nazi sympathizer Yunus Nadi in his newspaper CUMHURIYET,...>>

Gazetelerin politikasinin zamanla degistigi herkesce bilinen bir gercektir.
O gunun kosullarinda Yunus Nadi oyle birsey yapmis olabilir, ama bugunku
Cumhuriyet'te kimse Nazi yanlisi yayin yapabilir mi acaba? Inanclarinizi
desteklemek icin sozde kanitlar uretmeyin lutfen.

>  (MUSSOLINI DELI, AMA BEN SARHOSUM. DELILER SARHOSLARDAN KORKARLAR)

Bu da klasik Ataturk'e camur atalim-aferin bize-ne kadar da akilliyiz
kampanyasinin klasik urunlerinden. 

>Nejat B-) Neseli

Dogru, mesajlarinizi okuyunca insan neseleniyor, egleniyor...


   
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: basaran@beach.csulb.edu (Mete)
Subject: Parlak Beytullah
Reply-To: basaran@beach.csulb.edu
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:10:21 GMT

In article <28400.9301080937@thor.cf.ac.uk>, spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk 
(Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes...
>Elhamdulillah anam da belli babam da. Bir muslumanin birakin ana baba
>(ha$a) ile ili$kisini veya ba$kasi ile zinasini, ba$kasi ile zinasi
>degil zina, zinaya yakla$masi bile mumkun degildir.  Cunku Rasulullah
>(SAV) bir muslumanin asla imanliyken zina etmeyecegini, zina sirasinda
>iman gomleginin kendisinden cikacagini buyurmu$tur. Ben elhamdulillah bu
>kaideye inanmi$im. Rabbim beni degil zinadan, ona yakla$maktan korusun.
> 

[falan  filan...]

>Nefsine kul kole olan sizin gibiler icin ise NO PROBLEM!
> 
>Hadi eyvallah kocum!
> 
>Beytullah

Vah gerizekali,Father Christmas'ci moron.Yarisi ingilizce yarisi turkce
konusacagina once bu lisanlarin ikisini de ogren de gel..
Senin gibi eblek kro'lar yuzunden Turk'un imaji tum Dunya'da oldugu  gibi
Ingiltere'de de yerin dibinde biryerlerdedir. Ona,buna sizin gibiler diye
satasacagina kendin gibi olan sefillere bak.Hay senin muslumanligina da,
resulullah'inada .. Zina'nin ve ensest'in babasi sizin gibilerden cikar,
baksana peygamberiniz bile,9 yasindaki subyanlarla iliskiye giriyor,kimin
eli kimin cebinde  belli degil.

Anladin mi parlak Beytullah.

Mete Ulas
From: spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:10:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <Jan.7.00.24.21.1993.26262@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
|In article <102936.49853.17425@kcbbs.gen.nz>
|Hakki_Kocakelle@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocakelle writes);
|
|> Huu-Bey'den huuular DINle....butun bu kuruntularin gecer :-)  
|
| 
|Word-fetish'lerini biraktin sanmistim, hala birkamamissin.
|Sozlerle oynamayi buyuk bir huner sayiyorsan muthis yaniliyorsun.
|Gorduugun gibi benim gibi son 30 senede dogru durust Turkce 
|konusmaya firsat bulamayanlarda sozlerle oynayabilir.

konusmaya firsat bulamayanlar da sozlerle oynayabilir.
                
da ayri olacak. Sonra ikide bir imla hatalarini duzelten arkada$imiz
sinirlenebilir. 

Beytullah
 
|-- 
|
|	mark	
|
|   hubey@amiga.montclair.edu         hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
|   hubey@pilot.njin.net               ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey
From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "TURK" lere KINAMA
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:28:14 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

soc.culture.turkish grubuna dahil tum "TURK" lere :

Aksiyomlar:

- TR nin %99 u "Musluman" dir.
- TR gecmisi Orta Asya'ya dayanan ve 1071 de Alpaslan'in Malazgirt
  ovasinda 500,000 kisilik Rum ordusunu bozguna ugratmasiyla Anadolu'ya
  yerlesmis insanlarin torunlarinin ocagidir.  Bu savas din ugruna
  yapilmis bir cihad idi.
- 1071 den bu yana yuzbinlerce cihad ile kanlarini dokerek son olarak 
  Ingilizine, Kanadalisina, Fransizina..  karsi savasarak T.C. ye 
  sahip ciktilar(tarih).  Bu savas ta din ugruna bir cihad idi (Ataturk'un 
  Nutkuna ve nutuklarina bakin).

Kinama:

Boyle bir gecmise sahib olan bu neti okuyan ve Turk gecinen bazi
"Turk"ler atalarinin ugruna onca kan doktukleri degerleri
Kaya+Mete+Can+.. kafirlerinin yerden yere vurmalarini buyuk
bir sessizlik icinde izlemekteler.

Bu degerlere sahip cikmaya calisan bir avuc mucahid hakaret
yagmuruna tutuldugu zaman ise onlara destek olmaya geleceklerine
seyirci olmaktalar (Yanlis anlasilmasin, mucahidlerin tarafinizdan
desteklenmesine mucahidlerin degil sizin ihtiyaciniz var).  


Sonuc:

Bugun Bosna'da 128,000 Musluman oldurulup yediden yetmise 60,000
Muslumanin hamile birakilincaya kadar turlu fecaatler
ile irzlarina gecildiginde yerinden kipirdamayan "Musluman" ulke
hukumetlerinin yine yuksek degerler ugruna bu nette carpisan bir
avuc Muslumana destek vermeyen diger sct net okuyucu "Muslumanlardan"
ne farklari var?  Zaten insanlar layik olduklari gibi yonetilir diyen
Peygamber Efendimiz (SAV) degil mi?

Yarin TR Bosna ile ayni akibete maruz kaldiginda acaba atalarimizin
ugruna carpistiklari degerlerle degilse hangi degerlerle dusmana
karsi duracagiz?  Bu kafirler kendi degerlerinin ne oldugunu
maalesef sergiledi, TR de bugun batidan doguya dogru akmakta olan
ve fuhsu, namussuzlugu ve maddeciligi on plana cikaran bu akima
neti okuyan "aydin Turk" cogunlugun nasil karsi duracaklari buradaki 
kafirlerin urunlerine gosterdikleri hosgoruden belli.  


Cenabi Hak'kin iyi niyetlileri beyinlerindeki ve kalblerindeki zincirleri
kirarak gercege ulastirmasi dilegiyle.


Selam`a inananlara selamla,  
Hamid

ps.  Mucahid derken isim vermedim, zira kimin bu isi Allah rizasi icin
yaptigini ancak yine Allah(CC) bilir.  Ancak bu zamanda Allah(CC)
rizasini secenlerin yokusa suruldugu donemlerde  bu isi gostermelik
olarak yapanlar herhalde pek azdir.  Allahualem.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David)
Subject: Re: Some answers to YOU (Re: Some questions to you...)
Summary: need to read more carefully
Keywords: Okan's dreams :Enosis, EOKA, Makarios, Palikaria, Athens, Junta
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:03:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.145140.29213@en.ecn.purdue.edu> baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.041850.17499@wuecl.wustl.edu> tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David) writes:
>  
>>>So? Has  1993 changed your sheer greed and Enosis (Union of Cyprus with 
>>>Greece) mind? In fact, was it not you, besides Constantine Caroutas, who
>>>did not think there was anything wrong with Enosis ? Now you are telling
>
>>  And I back it up. That WAS the will of 82% of the population. As Caroutas
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    Need I say more? So long as this Enosis dream continues, I will say NO
>to all kinds of solutions (including federation, confederation...) with 
>the Greek Cypriot sector of Cyprus.
>
	No, Okan. You only need to read more carefully. Here is a copy of my
original article. I know english is not your (or my) native language but...
give it another try, will you ?
----------------------------------------------------------
You write:
>So? Has  1993 changed your sheer greed and Enosis (Union of Cyprus with 
>Greece) mind? In fact, was it not you, besides Constantine Caroutas, who
>did not think there was anything wrong with Enosis ? Now you are telling
And I replied:
  And I back it up. That WAS the will of 82% of the population. As Caroutas
noted, Hatay-Alexandretta unified with Turkey with only 60% of the population
voting for it. But this IS not the case for 1993's Cyprus.
	I urge you. Next time you go back to Cyprus, visit the government
controled part. You don't need any papers; you are a citizen of Cyprus.
Take a look for yourself. Ask for yourself. See for yourself what Cypriots
think and what they care about.
	You will find out why I called you the frozen man before. You
will find out that youself is 2-3 decades in the past. 
>
>Cheers,
>Okan Baysan
>                  MAKARIOS, Panayia, 4 September 1962
....you will find that you live and think with this^^^ logic.

-------------------------END OF ORIGINAL ARTICLE-----------------

>   
>Cheers,
>Okan Baysan
>
Regards,
Theodore David

Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:13809 talk.politics.mideast:24720 soc.history:10547
From: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.history
Subject: Re: lewis.gif -- a uuencoded & gif-ed Page 356 in Bernard Lewis's Text
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:55:19 GMT
Reply-To: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Organization: Stockholm University


>David Davidian writes:


>Th following is scanned, uuencoded and giff file of page 356 in the Second
>Edition of Bernard Lewis's 1968, _The Emergence of Modern Turkey_, Issued
>under the auspices of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Oxford
>University Press, London, Oxford, New York. Printed in Great Britain.

>You know what to do. Uudecode this and you will have the page.gif in question. 

>Deleted....



David will you scan properly next time, the article is pointing
to one side...why don't you scan your own face-picture and add
Argic's face-picture too, maybe you're the same person...who knows...(:>)


regards,

Hilmi Eren
Stockholm University
Hilmi-er@dsv.su.se
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From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: MUSLUMAN TURK(IYE) GELENEKLERI (Re: Turk(iye) gelenekleri)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:20:49 GMT

In article <93Jan0922335430877@beach.csulb.edu> basaran@beach.csulb.edu writes:
>Emre zaten ne akla hizmetse sizlerle muhattab oluyor..Daha anlayamadiniz mi

Bu newsgroup'ta onlarla muhattap olan bir tek bensem pes dogrusu. Tam
tersi, onlarla kafadan tartismaya giren ben degilim herhalde.
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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From: baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan)
Subject: Re: Some answers to YOU (Re: Some questions to you...)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:59:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.043950.17888@wuecl.wustl.edu> tpd1@cec1.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.035715.12015@en.ecn.purdue.edu> baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan) writes:
>>
>>I wonder why you did not accept my invitation of a North Cyprus tour from
>>Famagusta to Lefka last year. Remember Theodore? It is still valid, and 

>	Oh, I did. But you see when I got to Ledra Palace, the King's (not
>Elvis) guards told me that I had to sign some papers with which I would give up
>any demands on my house, land and property in Assia,Famagusta.

Liar! I strongly insisted that you tell me if you planned to visit so that I
would be your host and make your stay a memorable one. And you never did, or 
you never could, rather. Because Vasiliu did not even allow you to cross your
own gate before you came to the Turkish Cypriot gate.

Cheers,
Okan Baysan
-- 
  "Unless this small Turkish Community -forming a part of the Turkish race
   which has been the terrible enemy of Hellenism- is expelled from Cyprus,
   the duty of the heroes of EOKA can never be considered as terminated."
                  MAKARIOS, Panayia, 4 September 1962
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