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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 02:43:02 -0400 
From: "Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Another Introduction

>"...i was only born in 1955!"

"What?  You mean you're from some 10^5587+ years in our future?  That's some
 *serious* time travelling..."

(No, I am *not* going to write out 1955! in full.  I may be bored, and getting
tired and silly, but I'm not *that* bored, tired or silly...)

                               Steven Stadnicki
                               ss7m@andrew.cmu.edu,
                               scruff@netcom.com
                              "Into the woods you have to grope,
                               For that is how you learn to cope"
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Problems of Recognition (was Re: Words)
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:06:19 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi


      "`If any of have seen A&E's Evening at the Improv, there is a comedian
      on the show who is full-blooded Korean { his words... }. He was born
      in Nashville, Tennesee ! He has a Tennesee accent thick enough to
      cut. He says in his act that he hated playing cowboys and indians when
      he was growing up as he always got stuck with playing the cook ! The
      first time he did stand up outside of where he grew up, everyone's 
      jaws dropped when they heard his accent. He also said he spoke no
      Korean as his parents where the only ones he knew who spoke it, " DJ.
 
-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: click!
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:47:30 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.192704.9660@crc.ricoh.com>, rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove) writes:
>I seem to be a lone voice on this topic, but changing words can change the
>way we think about something.  If the pc police come down on you about
>words it can be incredibly annoying, but analyzing our semantics gives
>us clues to how we think about things.

But in the case of 'differently abled,' we're talking about a case where the PC
term for something has been changed three times in as many decades.  Why? 
Because each time it's been changed, the new word quickly acquired the
pejorative connotations that it was supposed to remedy.  This should be taken
as a hint that changing the words is NOT going to change how people think about
this particular thing.

>If you look at a person who has limited mobility, vision, hearing,
>muscle control, etc. and think "handicapped" and "disabled" (or
>"crippled") you may unconsciously dismiss them as other than 
>yourself or perhaps too hard to approach because you don't know 
>what to say.  

Yes, and my prediction is that `differently abled' is going to have exactly the
same connotations as soon as the novelty wears off.
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:20:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Failure
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans

In alt.callahans, DPERRY@eagle.wesleyan.edu (DAVID M. PERRY) writes:

> 	I realized just what i had said and the effect it had, and we managed
> to start talking, but the trust was gone. It may always be gone.

It sounds like the issues are pretty big.  A point of advice, however,
if you are eventually going to live with someone, you are going to HAVE to
find a way to get past the occasional insensitivity.  If you are
with someone who is not willing to work through it, you may not
succeed.  These things happen, and if you have commitment, you 
will just have to learn to get over it and not blow it out of
proportion.  Trust is a complex thing.

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: A tale which kneeds telling
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:24:26 GMT

kitten:
>>
>>I go could on, but
>>these jokes are all a case of "hare today, gone tommorrow." 
>>
>> 
>>You all know about the insomniac, dyslexic agnostic who sat up all night
>>wondering if there really was a Dog. Well do you know what he did in the
>>morning...he sold his soul to Santa!
>>
>>
>>kitten giggles....
>>
>"AAAaaaaarrrrggggghhhh!  Mercy, have Mercy!"  cries the Didi-Sprite,
>holding her nose.  "There's only one response to such torture!"


[   ] peanuts from didi deleted...

"glad you enjoyed that mess, dear didi....anything to brighten your day."

kitten smiles at the fleeing sprite.

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Problems of Recognition (was Re: Words)
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:57:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.212219.7374@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>My wife (Dragon Lady) has a more interesting problem.

Liralen chuckles at the problem and nods her head.

>If one attempts to determine where she is from by appearance:
>     The Koreans think she's Korean
>     The Japanese think she's Japanese
>     Several groups of Vietnamese think she's Vietnamese
>     Philipinas have claimed she's from the Phillipines
>     And the Cambodians have also called her Cambodian
>They ALL get upset when she doesn't understand what they are asking her.

Yeah...  

That could definitely be an interesting problem.

Not quite the same thing happens to me, but it's all the different Chinese
that come up to me to ask me questions in languages I've never heard.
Except some of the Hawaiians thought that I was Hawaiian, too.  One of
them said that it's because I have double eyelids instead of the single
one that most Chinese have.  They were a bit taken aback when I tell them
that I was born in Columbus, Ohio.

Mom was Southern Chinese, Dad was Northern and the blood mix made me.
Everyone, though, thinks I'm a little strange, too, for being 5'10".
Used to take myJohn to restaurants in Monterey Park in the L.A. area,
which was entirely Mandarine Chinese.  He would tower over most of the
crowd, looking a touch lost, until he really looked at me and saw that I
towered over the crowd as well.

Mom and Dad would always look at me and wonder how the *heck* I turned out
so tall.  Mom likes to say it was milk and meat in the U.S.  Dad says it's
'cause his grandfather was 6' tall and the shortest of seven brothers; but
Dad's only 5' 6".

Dad also was lefthanded, naturally, but was also forced to be right handed,
like your wife.  Some of the same problems, too, I think, from that.

>There are times that I am remined of the "face shaped face" line from
>the detective novels.

Grin... Yup.

>And of course, our sons are accused of looking like me--what a cheap shot!

Laughter!!  Yeah... my husband's half Scottish and half Ukranian, should 
make for a *very* interesting mix.  :)

----
Liralen Li
li@inigo.Data-IO.com
From: ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: lurk, lurk, lurk, post, lurk...
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:25:51 GMT
	<1992Oct14.173213.19259@ra.msstate.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>I was following with interest your story, but got lost.. by 'Secret
>>Service', do you mean the FBI or the CIA?  And what does EFF do?  Or,
>>what did they do to save said game company?
	Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that EFF is a group which does
work to protect peoples rights on electronics related issues such as
government phone tapping preventing things like the example listed.
>   "To the best of my knowledge, nothing has been returned and no trial
>occurred..." DJ.
	I have heard that most of the stuff was returned there was a little bit
of data which was not.  I agree though that the search was highly
illeagle.  And that it was involved withan investigation of someone else
who had no official link to Steve Jackson games.

ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
"I haven't failed I have discovered 10,000 ways not to make a lightbulb"
                                        -T Edison.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:02:41 GMT

Yeah, I guess that's why they call them "Warrant Officers"--

I did, however, work for an excellent one (once).  The rest were
just a bit over their heads--as human beings even.

The latest scary thought is that #1 son is now a squad leader in ROTC--
should be fun watching this reality check experience--he is now responsible
for the well-being of others, rather than just himself--

AKA Boss Troll
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: sjg@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Susan Gavula)
Subject: Re: click!
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:54:50 GMT

In article <122420135@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>
>Do not use the phrase 'differently abled'.  It is nonsense.  My
>father has been in a wheelchair for almost 30 years now, and
>he would be the first to tell you that he is downright handicapped.

Amen to that!  Doug, I agree whole-heartedly.  My chair, and your Dad's,
are real.  They are tools that help us live our lives.  Now, they scare
some folks who don't want to face reality.  Its not always pretty, but
we cope, and even have some good times just like everyone else.

>doug

Susan


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: one more incarnation II
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:50:35 GMT



>After a few seconds, Rider Suddenly remembers something...
>(Besides why he HATTTES so much tthose CRUMMY ERMINAL, heee
>TERMINALS at school!!!!)

>He runsback tohis Deck,done tthe mirrorshades and attttach the
>optttticcabletto tthem, then sttart punching a few commands...

>2 roses start to matterialise. MR then go sees mike, wich hands
>him a bigbowl ofcream...

>"Kittten, please excuse me for having forgetten tto salutte you
>earlier... Pleaseaccepthisbowl of cream (and the HELL I'm having
>from posting this directtlyon a tterminal instead of my RL Deck!)"

>he hen continues ttomeet them all...


"oh, rider....i know you didn't really forget..."  kitten grins and
hugs rider again....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:36:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Callahan's is for everyone
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans

In alt.callahans, li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:

> 
> Uhm... sorry if this rains on anyone's parade, but... piffle.
> 
> Callahan's is a news group.
> 
> It is *not* a bunch of people who have the professional know-how to 'help'
> everyone.  STM looks like he could use some help that *really* knows what
> its doing as opposed to a bunch of well-meaning, but rank amateurs.  Even
> the Polymath, who has a degree in mind-work, will not claim to be able to
> fix things for anyone here.
> 
[the rest deleted]
> ----
> Liralen Li 
> li@inigo.Data-IO.com

Great post Liralen.  I agree fully.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: A very temporary goodbye
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:21:11 GMT


>The most noticable effect is that the Mandelbear's fractal dimension
>increases significantly, rendering him even fuzzier than usual.  He
>steps up to the chalk line and says, "To New Ventures!" as he flings
>the empty glass.  There is a small explosion of green sparks.

>"The main reason I'm posting this is that I have a new job!  Starting
>on October 26th I'll be at Ricoh California Research Center in Menlo
>Park.  It's crc.ricoh.com but I don't know what my login will be yet.
>The powers that be at advansoft.com will probably shut down my account
>here considerably before then, so I'll be off the net for a week or
>so.  Be seeing you!"

kitten squeals with delight...."oh mandlebear...that is WONDERFUL..."
and pounces on him with a hug.

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU (RiemannZeta(s))
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:52:53 GMT

>From: mschiffer@engin.umich.edu (Michael S. Schiffer, LHN)
>	"Well, personally my interest in any of the myriad forms of
>football/rugby/whatever is pretty close to nil, but if what you say is
>true I have to ask why they don't?  Given the money to be made in the
>US football market, I would think that you would be able to hand pick
>a team from your state sides willing to go expatriate for a few years
>on multi-million dollar contracts.  And US football scouts are
>generally interested in looking for better players to make such offers
>to-- I seriously doubt they'd much care about the nationality of the
>players.  Alternately, the rugby team could schedule an exhibition
>game at a suitable price-- the endorsement potential alone would make
>rich men of them if they won."
>
>Michael

However Rugby is an amatuer sport so if our top players
players went to america to play gridiron they would lose
there amatuer status which they are not willing to do. Besides
most australians would need more than just money to induce them
to move to the states :-)
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: ArchTeryx's hatchday meal...
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:28:34 GMT
Organization: Murdoch University

rcb33483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ArchTeryx) writes:

[Amazing feats of swallowing copious quantities of food whole omitted, for
saving bandwidth and the stomachs of those who have stomachs in need of saving
... not me, I'm a biologist :-)]

>ArchTeryx pantpantpants after this effort, his crop so bulged out it's full
>outline is clearly visible through his chest and neck-base, and ArchTeryx
>can barely remain standing.  He gives a little 'pheep' then looks out at the
>stares of the crowd.

"I bet you won't be flying far tonight!"  :->

>"Anybody want to volunteer to rub my crop? *warblemoan* When it's this full...
>it needs help to move food.  Otherwise I get an awful stomachache..."

>He looks pleadingly outward...

"I was under the impression that most avians swallowed rocks, pebbles and other
hard objects to aid in the mashing up of food in their crops.  Fancy a sack of
small granite boulders for afters?"

Splash wanders over to help relieve ArchTeryx' crop-ache ...

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
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*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Another Introduction
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:06:55 GMT

In article <OLSON.92Oct13233644@husc8.harvard.edu> olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there) writes:
>Castellan, imitating DJ's dulcet tones (?!), comments "Well, when I've done
>several tech-support calls in a row with Texans, *I* start talking like
>this... and I'm a native-born New Englander.  Must be infectious.

     "Gee, you have my deepest condolances... Actually started talking like
that huh ? " <chuckle>

>"While we're dumping on Texans, I recently heard that the Texas state legi-
>slature banned the sale of Dixie Blackened Voodoo Lager beer in Texas on
>the grounds that the label promoted Satanism-- it's a swamp scene with glow-
>ing eyes peering out and spooky lettering-- like this, thanks Mike" holding
>up the bottle Mike had just handed him.  The Louisiana state legislature
>(which is where it's made (in the state of LA, not in the legislature)) re-
>taliated by banning the sale of Lone Star beer in LA on the grounds that it
>"promoted Texanism".  TX immediately repealed its ban, and LA followed suit.
>Mike, got a bottle of Old Nick? I wonder what the TX lawmakers would think
>of this label...", and he holds up a bottle of Old Nick Barleywine Style
>Ale, with a fiery depiction of Lucifer himself on the label.

     "Yes, I know there be dweebs in the Texas State Legislature. <chuckle>
When Queen Elizabeth II came over awhile back, the Texas State Legislature
had a big discussion about whether or not to wear black socks with their
boots or continue to wear white socks. Should they wear formal string ties,
or just their usual ones... I assure you all, that some might have been
doing this as sort of a joke, but others were quite serious... "
  Dreamy Jim

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Is it the weekend yet ?" me :-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang)
Subject: Oriental or Asian... (was Re: Words)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:19:12 GMT

Y'know, maybe it's just me... but if everyone read with a little less
aptitude toward taking things in the worst possible way, and maybe a
little more toward offering the benefit of the doubt to any and every
person who might write something on the Net, maybe we wouldn't have to
worry about glossaries and explanations and defenses of how words are
used and the like.  (Wow!  How's that for a long sentence?  ;).
 
Let's just give a little more of the benefit of the doubt...  or a lot
more, if it really requires it!...  We're connected to however many
countries in alt.callahans...  there are BOUND to be minor differences
here and there (ignoring the BIG differences, like when seasons
-REALLY- happen <with a smile to DM>).  I'm not trying to target
anyone here with this post (except maybe DM...  and I'm pretty sure
he'll take my mentioning his wonderful descriptions of the seasons
"down under" as the well-earned compliment I intend it as ;)...  
 
Here in America (and maybe elsewhere, I dunno), there's been enough
division because of our diversity.  Let's use it as a unifying force
again... if not as part of a national government and policy, then
maybe as a way to enjoy communicating with the friends we've never
met.
 
	-Bill (Politician-In-Training.  Vote Yang in '2020!)
--
William D. Yang         wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         Yang.25@osu.edu
Technical Assistant to North Area Computing Sites at The Ohio State University.
It's my opinion, but if you really want it, you can have it for a nominal fee.
ObPhilosophy:  One's mind should always reach further than one's overbite.
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Words
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:40:47 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct15.084719.7012@cheshire.oxy.edu>, ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) writes:
=  No dudes, no interesting combos, just a Korean California girl with a 
=pseudo Valleygirl-Latina-stuffy English major accent, depending where I
=am.

Welcome back, Deadrunner!
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Cristobal Colon
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:21:12 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct13.215454.25743@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlm7337@tamaix.tamu.edu (Incarnadine) writes:
>Incarnadine stands and empties his glass, sending it into the fireplace behind
>Smoke's.  As he sits, people near him hear him mutter, "bloody twit..couldn't
>navigate his way out of a paper bag..."

But DID manage to make landfall within 20 miles of his starting point.

Of course, that was no great accomplishment.  Just had to make sure he was at
the right latitude.  Now, if he'd been sailing north/south instead of
east/west, it would've been a lot more impressive.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra))
Subject: Re: Making overtures...
Organization: The Polyhedron Group
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 01:00:19 GMT

In article <1bco75INNhjb@gap.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
(Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
> 
> In article <BvzHFJ.834@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
> =>"Well, that's easy enough. Just ask another felinoid who is -not- diabetic
> =>to help with the grooming. We felines groom each other all the time, when
> =>among friends."
> =
> =>She gives StM her best attempt at an innocent expression. Then giggles and
> =>licks her lips, saying "Besides, I'm rather fond of Caramel. I wouldn't
> =>mind assisting you, and I'm sure there are othes of feline nature here who
> =>might like to help. Ocelot! Kitten! What do you say? Shall we help our
> =>sweet friend StM out of this sticky situation?" She glances at the other
> =>female felinoids in the room, as she saunters over to StM.
> =
> =>"Hmmmm?"
> =
> =>Purrrs,
> =>Thyra
> =
> =kitten just giggles and sticks her tongue out...."sounds good to
> =me...and we promise to not bite you.... too hard...."
> 
> How could StM pass up an offer like that?  OK.
> 
> 

"You heard him sisters, lets go!" says Thyra with a positively wicked grin.
She takes StM by one arm, and gestures for Kitten to take his other. She
says over her shoulder as she guides StM to a more private corner of the
bar, "Any other felines here care to help us groom STM? Yukipuma, I know
you're busy studying, but care to take a short break and join us? How about
you Ocelot? Any others?"

Purrs
Thyra

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