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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Right hand drive cars
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:20:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.1992Oct11.222014.24392
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>  I'm not completely sure, but I believe the US is not nearly as strict about
>driving right-hand drive cars as other countries.

No kidding.  In the U.S. Virgin Islands, one drives on the left, a relic of
pre-1917 Danish driving practice.  All the cards are regular left-hand drive
U.S. models, and the driver has really lousy vision.  In the British Virgin
Islands, about two miles away, they drive on the left, but use right-hand
drive cars.

I've also seen occasional imported British exotics with right hand drive here
in the U.S. mainland with regular license plates and no special markings.

-- 
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869
johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:25:52 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <5489@balrog.ctron.com>, smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith) writes:
|> In article <1basouINN6l1@armory.centerline.com>, jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:

stuff deleted...

|> I want to see every car equipped with 3 pt, non-comfort-feature equipped belts
|> with a _transmission_ interlock, so the engine can start and run before some-
|> one belts up but so the car will not move until the occupants are properly
|> belted.  Air bags are fine, but they should be _optionally_ available so people
|> who think they do add safety can buy them, but every car should have a first-
|> rate belt system and mechanism to ensure it is used.  Such a feature should
|> also be a part of every state inspection.

just curious, but: why should air bags be optional based on a driver's safety
concern/opinion and seatbelts be required?  why not have seatbelts optional?
are there statistics to show that my not wearing a belt will affect others?
(ie. secondary collisions, etc.)  if not, i say the government has no business
trying to protect me from myself.

|> Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
|> -
|> Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want,
|> it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.

axel
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rdn@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (richard.d.nelson)
Subject: another maxima problem
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:31:55 GMT
Keywords: shaking


My 1983 maxima recently started to exhibit the following symptoms:
BTW-it has a standard transmission.

When coming to a stop the car starts to shake if you don't put the clutch in.
I know that a car with a stick will stall when you stop and don't put the
clutch in, but this shaking starts when you frist start to slow down.  
Any ideas what it may be?  [At[BThanks in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: The Geo "family"
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:09:59 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <3716@key.COM>, srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.132551.7@mimas.arc.ab.ca>, erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp) writes:
>> In article <92280.103932WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>> >The Geo Prizm is essentially a Toyota Corolla
>
>'cept it's made in Fremont, CA, at NUMMI...  (right across the street!).  Some Corollas are 
>still Japanese made, but all Geos are made in the USA.
>
>> >The Geo Storm is essentially an Isuzu Impulse
>> >The Geo Tracker is essentially a Suzuki Sidekick
>> >
>> And now there is Asuna which seems to have all these vehicles with different 
>> names?!?
>
>Only in Canada-land.  Asuna is the Canadian version of the Geo...
>
>Remember, only Canada has the Pontiac Firefly... and you still have the Chevy Sprint,
>which we lost in 1987.
>

But we can also get the Geo line here in Canada so I don't understand why there 
is for example a Geo Tracker, Suzuki Sidekick and now an Asuna version as well. 
This sounds like overkill to me.

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: Mustang GT vs. Mustang LX 5.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:33:29 GMT

huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann) writes:

>Hello out there. I'm considering getting a 1988 Mustang, but I don't
>know whether I should get a GT or a 5.0 LX. I've heard that the LX
>is actually slightly faster than the GT (being lighter), but how does
>the handling compare? Also, I've heard insurance rates are a lot
>lower for LXs than for GTs... 

Since you're looking for a USED car which is several years old, you may not 
have much of a choice. If you decide you like an LX better because of lower
weight and less drag (and therefore slightly quicker), but you come across a
cherry '88 GT, what are you going to do, pass it up and wait for a cherry LX?

I wouldn't.

The two are roughly equivalent in terms of handling and performance. Yes, the
LX weighs less, has less aerodynamic drag, and costs less to insure. However,
if a great deal on a GT came my way, I certainly wouldn't pass it up just
because it wasn't an LX. 

--
Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu

Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.
From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: '93 318i Test - 1st impressions
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:07:48 GMT

As I mentioned yesterday, I had received the bare-bones
318i 4-door for this week's test.  My initial impressions
after 24 hours and about 60 miles worth of driving:

- In a word for body structure - TAUT!  Like a bank vault.
- The 1.8 is fairly spirited, but requires creativity in the
gearbox department.  Fairly 'buzzy' and noisy - I guess I'
m getting too used to a lot of the mfg's adding more sound
insulation.
- Interior layout is perfect - though not enuf adjustments for
the manually operated driver's seat for my tastes.
- What kind of headlights are these.  The low-beams are about
the best I've encountered in all the cars I've had.
- The rear seat fits - and I'm 6'4".  Likewise the headroom,
even with a sunroof.
- Why, or why, the silly gas mileage guage clustered with the
tach.  Reminds me of the old GM vacuum guage.  As it's always
bouncing around, it's distracting.  As long as they made the
odometer digital, couldn't they have done this with the mileage
guage if they insist on having one.  Also, for some strange reason
I'd prefer the gas guage on the right and the temp on the left.
Don't ask me why.
- The Geo Prizms I drove last week had more trunk area - and the
rear seats folded.  On a $10,000 car.
- Had some frost this morning.  In the 15 minutes it took me to get
to work, the rear defroster had not yet cleared the rear glass.
Unacceptable.
- At about $23,000, I still would expect something more than hubcaps,
a couple of storage bins, some more sound-deadening, a better radio
and a few more subtle items to boot.  Maybe not a real good comparison,
but for that price I could be in a new SHO.
- But still a beautiful handling car.

More as time goes on.

bob

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: '93 Probe vs. Celica
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:32:47 GMT

aledm@ncd.com (Aled Morris) writes:

>The probe I'm looking at has the (Mazda?) 6 cyl engine, 24 valve, 5sp manual
>transmission.  It seems to be the more modern car.

The 6 cyl engine is a FORD product, not Mazda.

>Comments?  It's difficult to judge a car from a short test drive.  Anyone own
>either of these cars?

If I were you, I'd demand to take the car out for an hour or so.  Still
not much, but better than the standard short test drive.  If the salesdroid
insists on going along, make him/her keep his/her mouth shut so you can
evaluate the car without listing to their hype.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: Timing belts on Honda
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:13:10 GMT

> procrastinated for over 30K miles...

WOW! That's taking chances. That sucker breaks and you're in for a lot more than a $50 timing belt...

.

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: hegarty@caradhras.bernina.ethz.ch (Christopher Hegarty)
Subject: Radar detectors in France
Organization: /usr/err/psim/hegarty/.organization
Distribution: europe
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:31:42 GMT


Can anybody tell me if radar detectors are legal in France?

For that matter, if anyone has a list of the legal status of radar
detectors in other European countries I'd be grateful.

Thanks 

Chris Hegarty (hegarty@iis.ethz.ch)
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: flat engines
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:33:26 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Oct6.195227.10718@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, 
mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
>       Why?
Because they can be used in airplanes...


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why not a Taurus SHO Wagon??
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:39:11 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Oct6.211222.14382@morrow.stanford.edu>, 
ari@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen) writes:
> Re: SHO limits, I happen to like the transient response(s) of the SHO
> platform. Having driven early porsches and other vehicles with trailing
> throttle oversteer, I can handle the SHO at its limits. It's too bad 
> that the suspension compliance isn't as good...

Lemme put in my vote for this.  I like trailing throttle oversteer.
Good drivers can make great use of this to get around corners faster.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.sport,rec.autos.tech,rec.auto.antique
From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Subject: 1966 Porsche 911 Help Needed!
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:06:05 GMT

I am in desperate need of a complete parts catalog for a 1966 Porsche 911.
In particular engines and engine parts are needed.

Thanks in advance to all who respond


-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
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From: mei172@cck.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Probe / Mercury Capri / Ford Capri - Which?
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:56:28 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <1992Oct4.232255.18081@koko.csustan.edu> james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy) writes:
>
>There is no way any peice of junk Mazda/Ford collaboration is going to live
>up to the German Ford Capri. This car is pure gusto. Sadly the ones
>that came to the U.S. never really got the powerful engines that would have
>made the mustang look like the slug that it has been since '73. The German
>Ford Capri remained in production all the way to '86 and in its final
>form had a high comression CIS injected 3000cc V6 with around 155 hp.
>There was also a tuned version available called the Tickford Capri with 200hp

guru sez:
	not only was irt tuned, it was turboed and body-kitted and had a fancy
	leather interior. The car was a limited edition of (I think) 5000.

	Still, it was an anachronism when it died, and Ford only kept it 
	going because of sad idiots who thought it was a good car to cruise
	around in at net, leering and shouting at women as they hung out of
	the windows.

	A true new Ford Capri would be a rebody of the next Sierra (CDW27, the
	world car) in the same way as GM Europe did a rebody of the Cavalier
	to produce the Calibra.

-- 
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     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: flat engines
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:05:38 GMT

In article <14912@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct6.195227.10718@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, 
|> mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
|> >       Why?
|> Because they can be used in airplanes...

Oops!  I must be in the wrong net -- thought we were talking about cars.
Sorry.
From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:26:43 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos, walkerr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker) writes:
>In article <26415@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) wri
>>As for your father, that had a profound effect on him. Now think about
>>if you knew some folks that had their liscense revoked for life, and
>>also remember that this was something that cost you thousands of dollars
>>and months of your time to get. Do you think it likely that you would
>>risk your liscense even once by drinking and driving? 

>        I personally would never drink and drive for absolute fear of
>1) dying
>2) wrecking my car.
>3) losing my license for even a day would be detrimantal sp?
>4) I HATE getting pulled over
>5) I'm broke and couldn't afford it
>6) I don't want to be looked down upon as a f**k up.

Lots of these apparantly aren't detrimental enough to even curb DWI.
Many offenders are repeat offenders.

>        If there was a threat of losing your license for life, then only the
>people that didn't care would even bother drinking and driving.  Loss of
>your license forever is like the equivalent of castration or losing a loved
>one.  I'll stay sober and wear my seatbelt.

That was the entire point, and in this country, you really need a car
in most areas, or you really are handicapped. That would really be detrimental
to even think about DWI. (And think about it. Those nifty little neighborhood
pubs might actually make a come back!:)

Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
			     Make a U-turn to God.
The irony is priceless.
Xref: sparky rec.autos:24108 rec.audio.car:4243
From: c60b-1hy@web-1f.berkeley.edu (Albert Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Passaport radar detector
Date: 15 Oct 1992 23:07:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-1f.berkeley.edu
Keywords: DSP radar detector

Yes, the Valentine 1 is the way to go for a radar detector.  It's made
by the guy who designed the Escort and essentially started up 
Cincinnati Microwave.  Recently, in a Car and Driver magazine test,
the Valentine 1 came in with the highest score.  It's got one
advantage over other detectors.  I think it utilizes 4 antennas.  But it
can tell what direction the radar is coming from.

Go with the Valentine 1.

Albert Wu
UC Berkeley
c60b-1hy@web.berkeley.edu


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jim@mwhhlaw (James P. Cavanaugh III)
Subject: Re: Paint on Chrysler's LH(Last Hope) models
Organization: Martin Wade Hartley & Hollingsworth
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:16:00 GMT

In article <7740229@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruno  
Melli) writes:
> >         I read that the piston problem was traced to an assembly  
error
> > in the new engine.  What you did not note is that it affected about
> > 1500 cars, none of which was in customer hands yet.
> 
> The article was a little confusing on that point. They mentioned that  
the
> original recall that only involved 500 cars was not affecting  
customers
> since none of these cars were out in customers hand. They didn't say
> anything about who was using the cars with the piston problem.
> What is the status of the LH anyway ? Are they out to dealers yet
> or are they still in the testing stage ?
> 
> bruno.

The Dodge Intrepid is reaching showrooms now.  I understand that Eagle  
and Chrysler variants will be on line in January.

Jim Cavanaugh
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Petro Jelly on terminals
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:19:45 GMT


Guys??? Hello???

Let's think about this for a minute- we are not making a barrier between our
battery terminal and the battery clip with the grease we use. The stuff gets
squeezed out, and protects minute "holes" where the surfaces aren't exactly
"touching" (on a molecular scale). We aren't going to get corrosion where the
metal is immediately on the metal anyway.

It takes 300+ amps to start a car. If you were going to see a degredation in
performance due to the grease, it would definately be then.

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup, Contractor, OSF DCE QA
OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
	  Religion: The longest-running gag ever played on Mankind.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:38:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <26442@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
|> In rec.autos, lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
|> 
|> >   As far as loans, they don't usually require liability, just
|> >   collision and comprehensive....to protect THEIR car.
|> 
|> Have you tried getting these without liability in states where liability
|> insurance is required by law?
|> 
|> Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
|> 			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
|> 			     Make a U-turn to God.
|> The irony is priceless.

can anyone give me a few examples of states that don't require liability?

axel
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Subject: Re: flat engines
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:39:38 GMT

abochann@cisco.com (Alex Bochannek) writes:

>Pardon me? What makes you say that Ferrari once upon a time made flat
>twelves?

The point was: that the opposed cyl. format (in *my* argument) was
a superior beast, whereas is seems that the real performance engines
that Ferrari are promoting now, are stemmed from the V format (F-40), and
the flat (superior???) engines are, by Ferrari, being cast in the shadow.

DAVE (johnson@wrs.com)
From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Two articles on seat belts
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:36:04 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos, pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian) writes:
>essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
...
>>(ie. secondary collisions, etc.)  if not, i say the government has no business
>>trying to protect me from myself.

>Yes, it will. If you get badly injured w/o seatbelts vs. w/ seatbelts
>the insurance pays more money for you... and all the rest of us pick up the
>tab.

All the more reason to make it a law that insurance only has to pay
for injuries to belted occupants. You're not belted? You better be carrying
insurance for yourself then, as no one else will pay for any injuries
you suffer. Such a law would also have possible significant reductions
in insurance costs. (of course, we all know how the insurance companies
would go for that one, right?)

I personally feel this is the way it should go, since you are courting
disaster by not wearing a standard (and generally extremely efficient)
safety device.

Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
			     Make a U-turn to God.
The irony is priceless.
Xref: sparky rec.autos:23889 rec.autos.tech:13948
From: charlesw@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Charles Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: I need advice on '82 and '84 Porsche 928's
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:09:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sail.12716
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <bvviqo.c1f@wang.com> chrisb@wang.com (Chris Bennet) writes:
>winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders) writes:
>
>>You can save a lot of money by taking a 928 to a third-party mechanic.
>
You can save even _more_ money by doing the work yourself.  I own a
sedan, a truck, and a 928.  When the 928 is down, I use one of the other
vehicles and take my time on the 928.  I shop for good prices on parts
(or mail order them).  Having another vehicle or two to drive keeps me
from getting impatient and doing something foolish (like pay someone else
a lot of money for parts and labor).
From: bnguyen@airmics.gatech.edu (Bin Winn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: [Wanted] 1984 Mazda 626 Used Parts
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:31:36 GMT
Reply-To: bnguyen@airmics.UUCP (Bin Winn)
Organization: AIRMICS


I'd like to buy the following used parts:

	1.	One drive-side, front fender		COLOR: White
	2.	One valence (under the front bumper)	COLOR: White

Please reply to me before 29 Oct 92.

Thanks

--BN
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Im going to be sick...
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:44:48 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

In (todays) USA today (Oct, 7th) on page 3A, there is a small article, "No 
Foreign Cars".

Drivers of foreign-made cars in the Flint. Mich., beware.  Begeining Monday 
only US made cars will be allowed in the City Hall Basement garage.  Flint 
Mayor Woodrow Stanley said he issued the order to send a message to buy 
American.  And he says he might designate other city lots for US only cars.  
General Motors is the city's largest employer with 50,000 local workers, 
whose taxes, Satnley says, help pay city workers' salaries.

(reprinted without perm.  All typos-gram errors be mine.)

As I said... I feel sick.. is THIS what it has come to?  How long before I 
get beat up for driving my VW to work?  Or my mother, grandmother, and 
friends who *all* drive "Non US Made cars"?  This is really sick, and has 
gone too far.  The American people are NOT to blame for lacking US auto 
sales, but rather the US Automakers, who *still* refuse to get the picture of 
what a *good* car is.

                                                      //Dan Reed
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Actual Price of Camrys and Accords
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:08:33 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

Does anyone out there know what would be a good price for a '92 Camry LE?
                                                a '92 Accord LX?