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From: kak1@birch02.cray.com (Kevin Kramer)
Subject: Re: TG-16 Super System card
Originator: kak1@birch02
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:48:42 CST


In article <1993Jan4.164651.12716@cs.UAlberta.CA>, andre@nojack.ucs.ualberta.ca  (Andre LeBlanc) writes:
> A few of these cards have made it to some of the local stores and have  
> since been sold.  They didn't come with any games and were $119 Cdn.
> That's a friggin' rip-off.  How much are they in the States? 
> 
> --

I just got mine from TTI last week and I paid $95 dollars which includes
the CD with the Bonks, bomberman and gate of thunder and the $50 worth
of five dollar coupons.  Not to bad of a deal.  You could also get just the
card without the software for $65.

Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: bunny@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Laura Kozma)
Subject: Re: What the hell is with Genesis?????
Organization: AT&T, Piscataway, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:20:43 GMT

In article <u7k4pf0@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec29.162635.45948@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>|Someone out there kindly post what Blast processing is, and why
>|people are turning to Genesis. The color's bad, the 3-D effects
>|are inferior, and you can't beat SNES's music, unless you talk
>|about the CD Rom. [...]
>
>Sonic, Sonic, Sonic, Sonic, Sonic, and Miles.  That's why I
>bought mine, anyway.  

I'm another that bought the Genesis for the Sonic game, but
I hesitate to admit that I bought Cookie Crisp cereal for
the Sonic picture inside. :-)   

>The color on both isn't as good as the color on my Mac, the 3D
>effects on both aren't nearly as nice as the effects on the IRIS
>workstation on my desk, and the music is moot to me.  I'm going
>to buy Lemmings for my Mac and not for my Genesis machine.

I'm buying Lemmings II for my Amiga and not my IBM or Game Gear
or Genesis or SNES...  

Laura Kozma

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From: wslin@eecs.nwu.edu (William Lin)
Subject: Genesis/MD game wanted
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University, Evanston, Il., USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:14:37 GMT

	Dragon's Furry for Genesis or the same game for MegaDrive wanted.
I prefer the MD version though.  Please e-mail if you have one for sale.
Thanks.

Will
wslin@eecs.nwu.edu

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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Taking a Game Gear on airplane....
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:29:33 GMT
	<1is8geINN6rb@sal-sun43.usc.edu>
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

A discussion on rec.travel.air recently said that portable computer
*mice* caused RF interference. Trackballs don't...the problem is the
loop created by the mouse cord.
  [I can't vouch for this, I'm just passing it along]
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From: cam@athena.mit.edu (Daniel Cameron Daly)
Subject: SNES games for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:40:13 GMT

post-holiday game sale goes on...
for the SNES, postage included:
Magic Sword:		$32
Prince of Persia:	$42

email any reasonalbe offers as well.

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From: jarnis@mits.mdata.fi (Jarno Kokko)
Subject: Re: Ranma 1/2 2 [COPY PROTECTED]?????
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:00:25 GMT
Keywords: game bytes magazine

In article <1ig9efINN8jm@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> set@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Toaster Man) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.231915.12467@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> victor@ucme.Berkeley.EDU (Victor Wang) writes:
>>I just borrowed the game today and the game seems very good.  I just wondering
>>because I cannot make a backup copy of this game!  Supposly the game is 12Mbits
>>but when I use the gamecopier to check the cart it only says 8Mbits.  I have
>>been trying to get this game into my floopy disk but it doesn't work since 4Mbits are missing!
>>
>>Anyone has any idea?
>>
>>Andy Chien
>>
>
>YEs the game is copy protected.  only the mgh will be able to play it with
>some type of new adapter or dos.  I will know more on friday.
>
>St.....

Hmm, shame that I can't get hold of the cart. Give tech info why so?
There isn't that much that they could have fucked up inside the
cart.. If it's just a stupid Fool The Copier That This is only 8 M
system, it doesn't really require systems like this (new DOS to read
it to disk maybe, but once on disk, nothing)
 
Let me know (by EMail if you don't want to leak it to the public)
any info about these new MGH thingies...

- Jarnis/Image
From: rjung@sal-sun43.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: lynx stereo
Date: 11 Jan 1993 08:35:51 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun43.usc.edu

In article <RUSTY.93Jan10094632@groan.Berkeley.EDU> rusty@groan.Berkeley.EDU (Rusty Wright) writes:
>Why do so few Lynx games use stereo sound?  (Is this a perennial
>question?)  On the LameBoy I always found it added to my enjoyment of
>the game.  The only Lynx game that I have that's stereo is Robotron,
>and it really makes the sound effects a lot better.

  Best stereo in a Lynx game: XENOPHOBE, ROADBLASTERS, CHECKERED FLAG, and
KLAX. KLAX is especially great; not only is the stereo complimentary to the
game, but the title theme (also in stereo) is one of the best stereo title
tunes I've heard in a long time. It even blows away the stereo music on all
of my Genesis games, including STREETS OF RAGE II.

  Worst stereo in a Lynx game: ROBO-SQUASH.

  (If it makes you feel better,most Game Gear titles don't use stereo either)

						--R.J.
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From: jayesh@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Jayesh Patel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Thanks
Keywords: Thanks
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:19:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Thanks a lot! I'll give it a try!  Seems a little complicated, since I am
not the engineer type.  

I was wondering....This is not going to cause any damage to my monitor or
my Genesis is it?

Again, Thanks a lot for your respons....

PEACE!!!!!

JAY
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: achiang@sedona.intel.com (Albert Chiang)
Subject: Gen vs SNES (Was Re: SNES: Super Smash )
Originator: achiang@sedona
Organization: WCDP
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:35:30 GMT


In article <9301114170@genesis.nred.ma.us>, nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) writes:
> 
>   I finally played the Genesis version of Smash T.V. and it is awful!  Cheesy
> sound, poor graphics, and less than outstanding gameplay...  nice side by
> side comparison of the capabilities, eh? :)
> 
> ------
>   Ralph A. Barbagallo III
>   nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us


Yes, but have you seen a side by side comparison of EA's NHPLA Hockey?

Both SNES and Genesis possessed equally good graphics; BUT, the movement
on the SNES was so jerky that I thought it was an entirely different
game. What makes EA's NHPLA Hockey so appealing is the silky smooth
control and graphics.



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From: petitc@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Super Smash TV
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:44:03 GMT

Brenten.Calhoun@launchpad.unc.edu (Brenten Calhoun) writes:


>    I recently (last night) bought super smash tv for the Genesis from
>Meijers. I've played it only once, and since Meijer's has this screwed up
>idea that if you buy and open a game you can't return it unless it's
>defective (for the same game), I'm forced to sell or trade it... Any offers
>anyone? 
> 
>  Brenten (brenten.calhoun@um.cc.umich.edu)

 If you have a SNES, get Super Smash TV for it.  I'll post a review of it
tomorrow, but in brief, it COOKS WITH GAS.  Realy intense and close to the
arcade in feel and play.

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From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Subject: Re: TG16 games at ToysRUS and ratings
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:47:30 GMT

din@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din) writes:
>Everyone interested in any of the games mentioned above should really
>check out my list (which is available via anonymous ftp or e-mail me).
>LA2 is well-worth getting for $10.  The graphics and gameplay are
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              This is true.

>pretty good, although LA purists like LA 1 much better (the two games
>are very different).  As a second choice, I would get Alien Crush,
>which is a really cool pinball game, although not quite as good as
>Devil's Crush.  Aside from Klax and Victory Run, Neutopia (an RPG)
>is the only other game I would consider, although each of you may have
>your own $10 favorites.  I believe I saw Boxyboy for $10 also.  That
>is a very good puzzle game, but not too graphic/action-oriented.

   I picked up Devil's Crush at our TRUS for $10, so you have a choice
for cheap pinball sims.  I did splurge and toss down the money for Time
Cruise anyway.  It's a much harder game than either Crush, with greater
variety, but I still prefer the game play of Devil's Crush.  (I think the
ball in Time Cruise is a bit too lively.)  They're all fun in their own
way though.

   - larry

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From: marms@python.cs.unm.edu (Mike Arms)
Subject: Re: Why does my SOnic 2 screen flash and warp me?
Reply-To: sandia!marms@unmvax.unm.edu (Mike Arms)
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:17:00 GMT

lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:
>is this a bug in sonic 2?  For no apparent reason the screen will go
>black and white and appear screwed up and then when sonic and tails
>re-appear, we are in a different part of the world.  I think it only
>happens in the competitive mode -- which btw is a lot of fun.

Did you read the instruction manual?  (Silly question as most of us
don't. :-)  In the competitve mode, there are two more types of 
TV monitors.  One is a Robotnic which causes you to lose all of your
rings.  The other is a Teleport monitor which exchanges the positions 
of Sonic and Tails.  That way, it can be dangerous to hit a monitor 
when you are close to finishing.  You can play a mode of the competitve
mode where all monitors are Teleporters (should be pretty chaotic).

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Subject: Re: Genesis adapter for SMC?
From: mkleczka@gacvx2.gac.edu
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:15:34 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

In article <C0BD95.2pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Crying Freeman) writes:
> Does anyone know whether an adapter exists to use the 
> SMC on a Genesis? I've HEARD from a friend that you 
> can get an adapter that allows you to use the SMC on your
> SNES to play Genesis games... If anyone has any related
> info, please let me know... Thanks.
> -- 
>  Kenneth C. Wang	| University Of Illinois Champaign-Urbana	
>  			| Internet: c-wang@uiuc.edu			

A magic device to convert Super Nintendo to Genesis or vice-versa is a dream of
many. You have been taken for a ride - there will never be a device to play
Genesis on SNES considering they use completely different processors. Sorry.

There is an adaptor to play Master System games on the Genesis, though. It is
called the Power Base Converter. They are hard to find non-used now considering
the games are generally disliked and the Master System II is being marketed.


Matt
From: kucerarj@elizabeth.dorm.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J Kucera)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Sega CD or SNES?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 02:06:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.112.199.31

In article <1993Jan6.033835.1@sc9> dmurdock@sc9 writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 	Please help a fool part himself from his money.  I am currently
> 	debating between getting a CD unit for my genesis or spending
> 	the $299 on an SNES & some good carts.  I am mostly interested
> 	in sports, rpg & strategy(Master of Monsters etc) carts, none of
> 	which are currently avail for the cd unit.  Instead of pushing
> 	games with grainy video footage why not use the huge storage
> 	potential of the cd to create more complex games?  If they  
released 
> 	a cd version of John Madden which let you play out a season while 
> 	storing full stats for you team or gave you a budget & let you put
> 	your own team together I would buy the CD unit tomorrow.  I know 
> 	what is out for the SNES, but need info on whats planed for the
> 	CD unit in the next 3 months.  Any insight/comments would be most
> 	helpful.  Thanks in advance
> 
> 	-Doc 
>
I own a Sega CD and I'm rather pleased with it.  Even though the games out  
right now are not fantastic they're still pretty good for 1st generation  
games.  Also there are a lot of RPG's coming out like two different  
Dungeon Masters and ultima underworld.  Also Madden and Montana are coming  
out on CD.  Montana should be out about now and Madden a little later.   
Madden is supposed to use live footage.  Also Sega is supposed to be  
coming out with a new machine that uses an 68020 at the end of this year  
and is compatible with the Sega CD.  So I would go with the Sega CD.

Ryan
kucerarj@kucerarj.test.rose-hulman.edu	
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From: mglicksman@loyola.edu (Michael `SLAM' Glicksman)
Subject: [SNES] Monopoly
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: ALL - Amiga Lovers of Loyola
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:17:00 GMT

	Is Monopoly available for the SNES, and how good is it? I havn't seen
any reviews for it here recently.


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From: stdnt171@whscdp.whs.edu (-=THE JESSTER=-)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Super Mario World Help Needed In Special World
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:34:34 CST
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

In article <1ihl7fINNmnf@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, gpmcderm@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham McDermott) writes:
> I have reached the Special world ( No, I have not killed Bowser yet) via
> the Star Road, and am stuck on "Tubular" stage.
> 
> Are you meant to fly by using the 'P' balloons that are here and there?
> I have tried and can never get enough flight time to get far enough. Or
> is there a secret passage or something.
> 

Yes, you do have to fly through with the P balloons, but it's hard as hell to
maneuver through the enemies and get to the next balloon before you loose the
one you've got.
I would nominate this for the hardest level on the whole SMW cart.  Who wants
to vote on it? :-}

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From: jarnis@mits.mdata.fi (Jarno Kokko)
Subject: Re: Hot games at Winter CES '93
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:47:20 GMT

In article <C0nws1.LM9@python.cs.unm.edu> sandia!marms@unmvax.unm.edu (Mike Arms) writes:
>v089l3s3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JER HORWITZ) writes:
>>Super FX games will run $10 above normal cost, thus a 4-meg
>>with SFX will run $50-60, 8-meg $60-65, 12/16-meg $75-85.
>
>Thanks for the CES reviews, Jer.
>
>I want to comment on the idiocy (sp?) of this SFX chip.  Why add $10 to
>the cost of EACH new game that uses it?  Why not charge $15-$20 for a
>SFX module (cartridge extender) that plugs into the regular cartridge
>slot and an SFX-using cart plugs into the SFX module?  The SFX module
>would only need to be about an inch tall and as wide as a normal cart.
>The bus lines would pass thru so that the regular cart can make use of
>them.  This seems so incredibly obvious to me (I have lots of hardware
>& software experience; little in marketting :-).  With the right
>design, the consumer need not eat an additional $10 cost on each new
>SFX game, but rather once for the SFX module.  It is nice to see that
>the SNES bus is hardware extensible.  Let's be sane about this Nintendo!
>

Few reasons: If they would release one add-one, they would be stuck
with that, now they can upgrade it whenever they want. Also there's
little thing - it would help game copier owners - they would have just
to buy this add-on, and keep on copying the games itself... (But it
looks like this is gonna happen anyway. Copier manufacturers will release
an add-on to the copiers to fix the problem)

- JArnis
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: TG16 - How is Falcon?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:53:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu



Anyone give me a review of Falcon for the TG16. Good, bad? Worth $50?

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Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: GGC for Taz & Sonic2
From: <MK7HPPSW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 2 Jan 1993 11:17:01 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Codes for these games will be out in the second update.
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From: cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Crying Freeman)
Subject: Re: Genesis adapter for SMC?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:45:39 GMT

skelly@amiganet.chi.il.us (Sean Kelly) writes:

>In article <C0BD95.2pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Crying
>Freeman) writes:
>>Does anyone know whether an adapter exists to use the 
>>SMC on a Genesis? I've HEARD from a friend that you 
>>can get an adapter that allows you to use the SMC on your
>>SNES to play Genesis games... If anyone has any related
>>info, please let me know... Thanks.
>>-- 
>> Kenneth C. Wang       | University Of Illinois Champaign-Urbana       
>>                       | Internet: c-wang@uiuc.edu                     
> 
> 
>      Practically IMPOSSIBLE.  The SNES and Genesis are completely different
>machines internally and regardless of what backup system you have on top of it
>you'll never be able to play Genesis games on the SNES or vice-versa...

Yeah, that's what I figured.... How about just an adapter that allows
you to use a magicom as a Genesis copier (like MGH) Does this exist?
I heard for some system, they have adapters that allow copying of
SNES, Genesis, Neo Geo, etc. How bout for SMC? Anyone have any idea?

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From: ez027682@dale.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: SNES Games forsale
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:04:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: ez027682@dale.ucdavis.edu

Final Fight 		$30
UN Squadron		$30

or both for $55.
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From: mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Merlin (was Re: Next generation handhelds)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:57:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.185405.3777@watson.ibm.com> bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com () writes:
>I had a Merlin also..  It was pretty fun... But I enjoyed the MicroVision much
>much more... BlockBuster kept me busy for hours (simple blockout game but I 
>still had fun trying to beat my last high score...
>I also had a Gameboy (not any longer though)... I would have to say that I
>played the MicroVision quite a bit more than I played Gameboy... 
> 
>(I have a Lynx now... I play that when I get home from work.... Sometimes, yes,
>Sometimes, I notice my wife is home also...)
> 
>Brad
>
>
	Once my Merlin broke down and only made weird squonks and bleeps
at random, I started using it as a prop for when I played Star Wars with
my friends.  It made a handy "mysterious device" for scanning out life
forms and torturing prisoners.   Just as well, like I said, it sucked at
tic tac toe.  

	Ah to be that easily amused again.

	-Mike

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