From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:05:18 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


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In article <1993Jan10.211105.5853@wam.umd.edu>, hmo@wam.umd.edu (Hipno House) writes:
|> In article <C0nMAz.72p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois) writes:
|> >I like Sesame's Treat, I like Apotheosis, I like Dominator, I like
|> >Destoryer, I like Mother Fu*ker Man, I like Na Na, I like Ping Pong,
|> >I like Pullover, I like Speed Racer.  I dont care if these are
|> >considered old, or crappy, or commercial, or sellout, or nauseating
|> >by some guy in the Uk, or some chick in the US.
|> >
|> >
|> >Ok?
|> >
|> >-Dan


	Oooooh Baby ! Speak hard to me ! I didn't know anyone could be so tuff.
You're no Raver , your basically the dance version of a Def Leopard and Extreme
fan ...... enough said !

|> 

|> My feelings exactly!  I go to raves because they play the latest techno
|> tunes, nonstop.  I dance and enjoy the music.  I could care less about
|> acid, X, laughing gas, whatever, it's your perogative.  However, it's 
|> that shit that is ruining the reputation of raves.  What we need are 
|> clean drug-free raves.  If you can't dance without drugs, then that means
|> you can't hang with the music.  You should learn to enjoy it without any
|> additional help.  It's for your own good.  If you want to rave forever,
|> then decrease the drugs, the sooner the better.
|> 
	Hey , if drugs weren't invented , there would have been NO acid parties
, NO Warehouse illegal raves , and NO shit 'raves' (ha!) that you go to now ...

	It wasn't always bad , there was a time when people took E and were
happy , and , hey , if you gouched then people helped you through it .... an E
was a nice once weekly escape into the kingdom of luurrve :-) At a secret
location of your choice ...

	Maybe you should stop going to 'raves' , nah , in fact STOP going
immediatley , in fact , People of America , stop this guy going , or I predict
that within the next couple of months , you will all be as bitter as me :-) when
he destroys your weekend's fun.
	Hey , I got a suggestion for you ... why don't you sit at home and play
"duck hunt" on your Nintendo , and live life in a nice , clean VR world , then
you can't harm anyone else with your crap ...


|> 
|> Now, the reason for my post is because of these so-called "crossover",
|> "commercialized" groups that most of you do not like.  For example,
|> Smart E's, 2 Unlimited, and whoever else.  Yeah, they're popular and
|> overplayed, but this is how people hear techno and begin to enjoy it.

	Nah , I listened to dance because it evolved from the music I listened
to in the Mid 80's , people like the Happy Mondays and New Order , and the mixes
of 'indie' records by people like Andrew Weatherall , whenI first heard piano
house ..... if people start off by listening to 2-Unlimited bollocks , then they
will probably keep listening to them , and then grow up and destroy all dance
music from existence .... a bit like yourself .

|> I mean people start listening to these bands and begin exploring the 
|> world of techno.  Plus, you have to admit that these groups aren't that 
|> bad.  They do have some good jams on their records (Especially, Smart-E's).
|>
	What good Jams ??? Get this music to hell , and shoot everyone who
listens to it .... I would rather listen to Kylie, at least she's good looking.
 
|> Well, that's it.  This is all my opinion of course, and if you do not 
|> agree, that's why you didn't write it.
|>
	 your opinion , it stinks ..... get some attitude and stop sucking up to
your peers ... get caught smoking dope or something , I don't know , anything
that boosts your 'image' .... "look mom , that mans got arrested"
 
|> Rave, rave, a little longer.
|> 
	..... or shorter in your case ....
 
|> -- 
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|>      Haluk                            "Better mixes than Betty Crocker"  
|>  hmo@wam.umd.edu                           --CLUB 95 on WPGC 95.5--
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 


Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )