From: pjohnson@jabba.uucp (Palmer Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: jabba.uucp - bounced BMS mail
Date: 7 Oct 1992 14:17:54 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <03Oct1992.142742.166948@hactar.hanse.de> wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering) writes:
> Hi & sorry for wasting bandwith ...
> 
>      We had  this  already  some  days  ago, but I really don't know how to
> notify Palmer about this without posting here =:-<
> 
> FYI, quoting from uumail:bms_err:
> 
> 1% From uunet.UU.NET!destroyer!uucp Mon Aug 24 17:48:27 UTC 1992
> 1% Return-Path: <mcshh!unido!uunet.UU.NET!destroyer!uucp>
> 1% Received: by destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu (5.65/2.2)
> 1%         id AA01256; Sun, 23 Aug 92 23:47:59 -0400
> 1% Apparently-To: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err
> 1% Message-Id: <9208240347.AA01256@destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu>
> 1% Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 23:47:59 -0400
> 1% From: destroyer!uucp@uunet.UU.NET
> 1% Subject: Warning From uucp
> 1%
> 1% We have been unable to contact machine 'nucleus' since you queued your job.
> 1%
> 1%         mail nucleus!nucleus!stss!jabba!bms_in    (Date 08/22)
> 1% Attempts will continue for a few more days.
> 1%
> 1%         Sincerely,
> 1%         destroyer!uucp
> 1%
> 1% #############################################
> 1% ##### Data File: ############################
> 1% >From uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err Sat Aug 22 13:54:48 1992
> 1% Received: from uunet.UUCP by destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu (5.65/2.2)
> 1%         id AA08229; Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:54:48 -0400
> 1% Received: by hactar.hanse.de for cs.uwindsor.ca!jabba!bms_in
> 1%    (Amiga1.02l6*hactar-96r) id <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>;
> 1%           Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:28:18 UTC
> 1% Reply-To: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err
> 1% X-Bms:
> 1% Message-Id: <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>
> 1% Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:28:19 +0200
> 1% From: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err (BMS)
> 1% To: jabba!bms_in
> 1% Subject: (none)
> 1% [...]
> 
> And, for the *same* message:
> 
> 2% From vela.acs.oakland.edu!nucleus!uucp Sun Aug 30 13:35:30 UTC 1992
> 2% Return-Path: <mcshh!germany.eu.net!vela.acs.oakland.edu!nucleus!uucp>
> 2% Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA17822
> 2%   (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:10:22 -0400
> 2% Content-Type: text
> 2% Content-Length: 1705
> 2% Apparently-To: bms_err@hactar.hanse.de
> 2% Message-Id: <199208300310.AA17822@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
> 2% Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:10:22 -0400
> 2% From: nucleus!uucp@vela.acs.oakland.edu
> 2% Subject: Warning From uucp
> 2%
> 2% We have been unable to contact machine 'stss' since you queued your job.
> 2%
> 2%         stss!mail jabba!bms_in   (Date 08/24)
> 2% The job will be deleted in several days if the problem is not corrected.
> 2% If you care to kill the job, execute the following command:
> 2%
> 2%         uustat -kstssZ51fb
> 2%
> 2%         Sincerely,
> 2%         nucleus!uucp
> 2%
> 2% #############################################
> 2% ##### Data File: ############################
> 2% >From uucp Mon Aug 24 06:29 EDT 1992 remote from nucleus
> 2% >From uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err Sat Aug 22 13:54:48 1992
> 2% Received: from uunet.UUCP by destroyer.rs.itd.umich.edu (5.65/2.2)
> 2%         id AA08229; Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:54:48 -0400
> 2% Received: by hactar.hanse.de for cs.uwindsor.ca!jabba!bms_in
> 2%    (Amiga1.02l6*hactar-96r) id <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>;
> 2%           Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:28:18 UTC
> 2% Reply-To: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err
> 2% X-Bms:
> 2% Message-Id: <m0mLyK3-0000c3M@hactar.hanse.de>
> 2% Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:28:19 +0200
> 2% From: uunet!hactar.hanse.de!bms_err (BMS)
> 2% To: jabba!bms_in
> 2% Subject: (none)
> 2% Content-Type: text
> 2% Content-Length: 114
> 2% [...]
> 
> Please  contact  your admins - it's *not* very funny to set out mail and to
> receive it back several times =:-< And, as you can see, my system send this
> to `cs.uwindsor.ca!jabba!bms_in' (don't know why this ended up at umich.edu
> and oakland.edu) ...
> 
> Thank you. And again, sorry for wasting ...
> 			kai
> 
> --  _
>  _ //   Kai 'wusel' Siering, Villa Straylight, Hamburg, Germany. Go for MIME!
>  \X/: <wusel@hactar.hanse.de> Exile: <wusel@lime.in-berlin.de> iso-8859-1: dv|_
> 
> "In the begining, the universe was created.  This has made a lot of people angry
> and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
>                    -- Douglas Adams, "The Restaurant at the End Of The Universe"


first I cannot understand why 

                        cs.uwnidsor.ca!jabba

does not work with SOME systems....I do get BMS files and mail from others
using that as a return address....

stss!jabba

this maybe a problem and I only use it IF I cannot send out the mail
threw cs.uwindsor.ca

you may want to try stss.stss.org!jabba

cs.uwindsor.ca  also has another name schoenfinkel

PLUS I am in the middle of getting a full domain address..... 
which may or may not help!!!


ONE problem is that Bell cut the network line for ONET to the UofWindsor
one day last week... and it took serveral day to get that back up...
so MAYBE that has a little to do with the hactar problem as I have received
files from there before!!!

Palmer Johnson                  Please forward mail to
Windsor, Ont.                   cs.uwindsor.ca!jabba!pjohnson