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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: "Hot, damned hot!"
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:26:43 GMT

In article <1b8d0886.ARN23f6@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au>, dac@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.160832.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, Rod Swift writes:

>> Absolute BS.  The nation's capital can't get over 25C on 99% of days in the
>> year.  I can't recall it ever reaching 30C.

> What the fuck would you know, Rod!

Prolly more that someone from Bumsteer, IL.

> Do you need archived weather reports shoved up your nostrils?

Not really, but that would be a peeve of mine if you did it.

> Surely the word of a resident of The Nation's Capital can inform
> The World -accurately- about the damned weather! Sheesh.

The weather exaggeration was obvious.  I was just reflecting on a recent
trip to the National Peeve Capital of Australia (tm) and the associated
-2 to 3C minima and 8 to 14C maxima.

Rod
-- 
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|  Curtin University of Technology  |  Perth  |  RSWIFTRW@cc.Curtin.edu.au  |
From: hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Nipple debate (was: Boss Peeve)
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:02:01 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I think I missed something here, probably from not following the
conversations daily.

        My original intent was to complain about my dickass boss taking away
our radio in the lab, not a nipple contest.

        However, for the record, I am a 38DD, and I usually wrap up in an aghan
if I'm cold at home rather than turn up the heat and fry my fiance.

        Kitten

Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.usage.english
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Revisionist Ideological Deviationalism Attacks English
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:28:04 GMT
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux):
:ItHasBecomeApparentThatIAmInDireNeedOfClarifyingAWeeMinor
:LexicallyDisturbedInfluenceInTheEnglishLanguageThatIPresumeIsA
:PartOfTheDangerousWimpLiberalSeXularHuamnistInfluenceInModern
:Education:

:ICanNeverRememberTheCorrectSemanticalMeaningsAttachedToArmorAnd
:ArmourAndAcceptThatItIsJustOneMoreCaseWhereinSome
:PinHeadedBrainDeadKneeJerkWimpLiberalMadeUpExtraWordsSoThatThey
:CouldGleefullyCarryOnTheirPsychoPhantasiesAboutTheDaysOfKnights
:WithoutHavingToHaveTheEmotionalAndPoliticalAngstOfKnowingThat
:ThereIsNotAWholeJollyLotOfDifferenceInFightingMenThroughout
:TheAges.

Speaking of pet peeves, I haven't had a good peeve-off for days, 
and anyway, I've been up all night, so Drieux gets the flames
of my discontent.

1)  Gratuitous -al endings to words already ending in -ic.  I mean, if
    -ic is an adjectival ending, then just what does -al buy you above
    and beyond this?  People who say 'thusly' are just as bad.

2)  People so brain-damaged by X11 programming and contemporary 
    marketing efforts ThatTheyRunAllTheDamnWordsTogetherIllegibibly
    instead of using nice spaces, or at least underbars.

3)  Posting idiot questions about colour and color to a newsgroup
    that rehashes these things every few weeks anyway.  Is spelling
    really not taught any longer?  I guess "phantasy" for "fantasy"
    would support this, as well as utter ignorance about British
    versus American styles of spelling.

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist
    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
    little statesmen and philosophers and divines.  With consistency a
    great soul has simply nothing to do."  --Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Where were they when wit was handed out?
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:36:58 GMT
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu
Organization: Up the,

In article <lb2c2mINNfju@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce) writes:
|> In article 16568@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, lozanoj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jones) writes:
|> >Is there anyone more peevesome than somebody who has no sense of humor
|> >of their own and has to recycle material from Saturday Night Live to
|> >get laughs?
|> 
|> The worst part is, the SNL writers themselves are guilty of this.
|> That's part of the reason I stopped watching the show; it turned into
|> 90 minutes (less about 40 minutes of commercials) of recycled, rehashed
|> repetitions.  And when, on that rare occassion, something new came on,
|> you *knew* it would be repeated ad nauseum in every single subsequent
|> show.
|> 
      It is not merely the repetition that is peevesome.  In fact
the repetition and various idiots mimicking some buzzword in lieu
of original humor of their own is a by product of the style of humor
itself.  That is highly peevesome.  For want of a better nomenclature,
this "buzzword" humor has mystified me since grade school.  What is 
funny about this?  Almost always it centers around pronouncing some
word in a "funny" way.  Ho. Ho.  Often, a skit on some national comedy
show, originally written as a subtle parody of something ridiculous,
will become popular as a result of some stupid catch phrase.  Anything
from SNL or SCTV which became popular is an example of this.  The fact
that popularity accompanies this accomplished parroting is further evidence
that the general public is comprised of idiots.  What sort of comment is
it on the higher reasoning skills of our species that the majority of its
members are still mesmerised by the novelty of varying tonality, pitch
and inflection, like a two year old learning to speak, and have not yet
moved on to including content or meaning into their humor or worldview?

                     (note the relevance of the .sig)

-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Essene & Chinese birth controls must reduce birth or Easter Isle 
type overpopulation destroys God's Spaceship Earth!  God's law 
prevents all conception below pH3.  Therefore, Essene contracepted
for 400 yrs. with rosehips, pH2!  So, absolute clean, apply vaseline,
oil, butter, or cream, insert teaspoon juicy lemon pulp pH2. O.K.!
Next day douche with qt. soapy water pH8, restoring pH5 balance God
made!" 
				-- Dr. Bronner's Pure-Castile Soap
"Or you could use a condom." 
		              Tim Mefford (tim@physics.orst.edu) O.K.!
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:26:34 GMT
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Organization: McOlsen's Lutefisk Burgers -- one served.

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

>I generally prefer cooler temperatures in the office.  Not out-and-out
>cold, but cool.  Unfortunately, in terms of my climatic prferences, many 
>women work in my building.  And as we all know, women are heat vampires; 
>they can be counted on to screech in agony the nanosecond the ambient 
>temperature drops below 80 degrees Fahrenheit.

	I hate to admit it, but I suffer from an overly-functional
autonomic reflex system.  This means that my body is going to protect my
vital organs, no matter what, once the ambient temperature drops below
normal body heat level.  Thus, I wear flannel shirts in july when the
temp is 90 degrees, and typically wear a jacket at the office.  I am
not really a heat vampire, as I manage to emit sufficient heat on my
own.  My body, however, refuses to radiate much of it to even my
extremeties, let alone the air surrounding me.

	This can be a major peeve when your bed-mate schreeches into
your ear as you climb in.

--
<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Re: Mea Culpa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 13:24:04 GMT
Organization: Radioactive Waist-Reduction Clinic

In article <LARRY.92Sep13201606@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.003208.20233@bbxrbk> russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler) writes:
>
>   I'm still trying to understand why someone would come the radioactive
>   New Mexico desert in a vacation...
>
>Why, Russ, to try to see *THEM*, of course!

!Peeve: Watching Russ do his *THEM* impersonation, complete with sound
effects. Way cool. 

-- 
"If I had a million dollars I'd buy you a green dress.
 But not a real green dress; that's cruel."  --Barenaked Ladies

"This cemetery bites it." -- Chris Baldwin
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bards
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:53:07 GMT
	<1992Sep3.203757.13435@umbc3.umbc.edu>
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

<In article <1992Sep3.203757.13435@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:

<   In article <1992Sep02.205307.2103@CS.ORST.EDU> tim@physics.orst.edu writes:
<   >I will be taking in a play.  And not just any old play, but the 
<   >pinnacle of English thespianism, Shakespeare.  I suppose I can 

<   i believe you are referring to the (alleged) playwright. which play?
<   as for the "nya nya ny-nya nya", well, i'll take simon over shakespeare
<   any day. (course i'd take shakespeare over usenet... *grumble*)

	Huh? The only "simon" I can think of right now is that
	dumb electronic game that was real popular for about
	3 months a while back; the one with 4 colored buttons
	that flashed & players tried to replicate a random
	sequence. A real laugh.

ObPeeve: now I've gone and started another "Don JohnsonBerg" 
	 thread, I fear.

<>Peeve2: Wine is expensive, if it's any good at all.

<i disagree. i've had lousy expensive wine and excellent inexpensive wine.
<yes, you have to get out of the $2.98 meteus/canei/boone's farm section.
<still, you can get a reasonable bottle of wine for under $US10 in these parts

ObPeeve: people with crummy palates who insist that Aunt Granny's
	 Easy Street "Isn't really all that bad".

	Not that I'm accusing lp of this failing.....
	
<(and cost of living is relativiely high here). heck, oregon has some reasonable
<home grown stuff. 

	Peeve: home grown wine in the US. It's always thin, often
	artifically colored and far too often TOO SWEET!!

	"Wine" != "Old Grape Juice" in taste.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:45:47 GMT

In article <BuKGyC.Lw3@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>Well, I don't have a flat spot, but I *can* tie a knot in a maraschino 
>cherry stem with my tongue.  I was doing it for years before Twin Peaks,

we never would have guessed.


-- 
-lp  **********************************************************************
*   "the *ocean* is affected by the phases of the moon but men aren't?!"  * 
*							--Anne Tucker     *
***************************************************************************
From: racw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (rod williams)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Massachusetts (was Re: Boss Peeve)
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:21:31 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (rod williams)

In article <lba5reINNg8k@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>Yes.  Big ones -- 16-inchers.  (For the benefit of the pacifistic and
>navally challenged among us, that's the bore size, not the barrell length.)
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 
better not let alt.alein.visitors's gary stollman hear about this or hell
start talling about the clones again. bwahahah

peeve: my fone has just started ringing.

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From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Date: 12 Sep 1992 17:53:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <BuF5y9.HqM@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>
>Peeve: uys who generaliz about women.  Myself, I work best in temperatures
>below 50 degreesF.  Not only does it keep me from falling asleep at the
>terminal, but it makes my nips perk up in a most attractive manner.

In my experience, gals are generally more cold-fearing than guys. Perhaps
they are afraid that their nipples just aren't very attractive when
perky. Must be connected to the generalization that every woman thinks
she is 15 pounds overweight.

Peeve: When my girlfriend visits, she invariably turns up the heat in
my apartment to about 90 degrees and gets pretty cranky when I turn it
down.

Peeve: Electric heat. Especially here in Massachusetts. When she shows
up, my electric bill runs about twice as expensive as normal ("normal"
being much too high as it is)

But I digress. As for me, I'm much too hot right now. But my nipples
don't do anything interesting anyway.

Peter!
From: hosch2263@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Boss Peeve
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:24:26 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        Peeve:  My workplace.
        
        Reason: The college where I work has two settings on the heating
system, hot and cold.  Right now, it's on cold, which makes the lab about 60
degrees every morning.

        Reason: Head boss came through same lab after hours when an employee
was working on a computer.  This employee had the radio on, and since we were
closed, had it up a little.  Head boss did not like and told us we could not
have a radio in the lab.

        Related Peeve: Head boss is a jerk.

        Related Peeve: Campus planning people who complain that our blinds are
not all open the same distance.

        
        Kitten.
From: malc@pyramid.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Diagonal street-crossers
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:55:13 GMT
Organization: Xinaian Tourist Bureau

These bozos could cross the street at a 90 degree angle, thus getting
out of my way faster, but no, they have to cross at whatever angle most
directly takes them to their goal, thus taking that much longer to get
out of the way of traffic.  Don't these people know their trigonometry?
--
Malcolm L. Carlock                      Internet:  malc@unr.edu
                                        UUCP:      unr!malc
                                        BITNET:    malc@equinox
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Outta here for a week
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:50:54 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

Actually, it's more like a week and half when you add in the 60 or so hours
that our newsfeed is behind.

Peeve: Unreliable newsfeeds that don't seem to be able to catch up.

!Peeve: I'm spending the next week on the pink sand beaches of Bermuda.

Peeve: No access to alt<dot>peeves for a week, and then some heavy-duty
catching up to do.  I just *know* I'm gonna miss some juicy stuff.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
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|Dr. Pavlov's distinguished career came to an      |
|abrupt end one day when the doorbell rang and the |
|dog ate the Avon lady.                            |
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From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Boss Peeve
Date: 15 Sep 1992 22:13:54 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <92Sep14.173003.30998@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <192d5eINN6ur@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@banzai.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
>>In article <92Sep14.140240.31202@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>>In article <18tar1INNiu2@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:

(Jeesh - I'm losing track as to who has said what here...)

>>It is much easier to put on another
>>sweater or cuddle up with someone to get warmer than it is to do 
>>anything to get cooler.

>        The obvious corrolary is to turn up the heat and take off
>        *your* clothes. As a peevster, you are expected to have
>        the muscular physique and engorged ManTool(tm) of a
>        Young.God.at.the.Dawn.of.the.World(tm), which should then
>        make you irresistable. 

That's the problem - as soon as I take my clothes off, women from miles
around come running, which would piss my girlfriend off if she weren't
so busy being so damn excited herself. I tell ya, it ain't easy being
a Young God...

>        Shouldn't *she* be cooking dinner? (ooohh, I'm gonna get
>        flamed for that one) Preferably barefoot (here it comes)

Especially if I'm going to have to undress now - I mean, my engorged
ManTool(tm) will just get in the way...

Peeve: Burning a ManTool(tm) on the back burner (especially the one
	belonging to me)

>         Whoops, see you later, peevsters, I guess I'll be busy 
>         for the next ten-15 minutes.

Only 10-15 minutes? Jeesh - you men are all the same. That's why I never
date 'em.

Peter!
From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Lazaruslike.
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:15:41 +1000
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <laur42INN7t8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Buster Crabbes) writes:

> In article <1992Sep10.054215.19486@mel.dit.csiro.au> jen187@mis.csiro.au 
> (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812) writes:
 
>>(Yes, I'm from Australia. NO, I'm in no way similar to DAC.)
 
> Blessed be.  You are indeed fortunate, as are the rest of us.

Ahhh, but you haven't realised yet that Graham is actually the
Anti-Dac.  To have one you must have the other, like chalk and
cheese, dwarfbix and bloatobix. :-)

Carl.

-- 
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From: adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Parents who subject their kids to strange
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:47:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <bua0i5.h46@wang.com> dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
>There is a guy running for some local congress seat here whose
>name is "Dick Sweat".  I'm not making this up.
>
	Assuming his parents actually named him Richard, all he has to do is
change nicknames and call himself "Rich Sweat".  Any decent marketeer can do
the rest - he'll be a millionaire.

ObPeeve.  I just had acute double pneumonia, collapsed lung and meningitis.
Anyone who suggests it was just a cold, I'm going to sneeze into an envelope
and post it to you.
		Yours, nasally,		Adam (sniff).
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bfrrelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Jerry Cornelius)
Subject: Holiday peeve
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:33:09 GMT


Peeve1: The fact that my girlfriend works and I'm a pauper fucking
student sickens my arse.

Peeve2: The fact that she has just announced that she is taking a loan
of 600 pounds for our holiday, 600 pounds for Chrissake...we are going
to London for a week, not on a spaceflight!!!! And that is wityh free
accomidation!!!!

Peeve3: The fact that I'll have probably about circa 80 pounds to spend,
and that will clear me out for the year.

Peeve4: I have not told my folks yet, and they are just going to shit 
canaries when I do!

Peeve5: I'm going to end up spending some of her money, and then she
will have one on me..... arrGHHHHH not a good situation.

Peeve6: We are going with 2 of her friends, they are cool enough, but if
anything happens on the holiday, I'll be up that creek again paddling
with my fucking hands. See, they got the free accom.!! Also, I can see 
myself getting outvoted 3 to 1 on everything I want to do!!

Peeve7:I'll have to visit my relations while I'm there, I'd sooner chew
my hands off.

Antipeeve: I can't wait!!!!

                          Brian.
From: carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Concert peeve!
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:27:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <1992Sep7.161053.4236@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com (David Covell) writes: 
>| 
>| The scenario:  aging ex-hippy attends his first real rock concert in 12 years
>| (ELP at the Concord Pavilion), ....
>| 
>| [pseudotechno-nerdy stuff deleted] 

>Peeve: It occurs to me that I first saw ELP in 1973.  19 years. Yeesh.

[...]

>| I'm forced to either join the lemmings or remain seated, blind, and irate.

>Gad!  This extends beyond the realm of mere peevery.  It wasn't like this in
>the 70's.  Last night, I saw the Allman Brothers here in Raleigh.  3 hours of
>standing just to see the stage, and I was only about 15 rows back in the
>center.  That really sucks.

Geez, A. Jing, who did you go see in the '70s?  I don't recall very 
many rock shows where everybody sat sedately in their assigned seats,
quietly absorbing the subtle artistry of the musicians.  Were you at
the Durham Philharmonic, perhaps?

Peeve:  What wasn't like this in the '70s is that my body didn't
protest quite so loudly.  Now I know why old people like Frank Sinatra
and Wayne Newton shows -- they can sit down through them.  It sure
isn't the music...

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carolo@cse.ucsc.edu    *         And a short time to be there...
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