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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 19:24:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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In article <seyncSC00VopMXpVUv@andrew.cmu.edu> "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Man, I remember all of those.  "Hanna-Barbera's World of
>Super-Adventure!"  Other classics that I can vaguely recall:
>
>Space Ghost
>The Herculoids
>Frankenstein, Jr.

   What about the Fantastic Four? There's a terrific show.

>There was also one series that I remember that involved two kids with
>two halves of a magic ring; when they were joined together, they
>summoned a genie (sort of a precursor to the Wondertwins, I guess). 
>Anyone remember what this one was?

   Yeah, this was called Shazzan. It got a little boring for my tastes, but
you can't forget that great stupid flying camel, Kaboobie (??!!!), that they
rode all over the place (wherever they were).
>
>Other ones that I can remember that may or may not be HB:
>
>Thundarr the Barbarian (my personal favorite)

   This was a great show! I've managed to find some of these on tape, although
they're out of print now. This was put out by Ruby-Spears, and the tapes
were released on Worldvision (who also relased all the H-B titles on video
before they got their own label).

>The Impossibles (? -- I think this was their name; they were a rock band
>with superpowers.  One of them could turn into a spring, one could turn
>into liquid, and the other could split into duplicates)

   This was part of H-B's World of Super Adventure, too.

>Schmoo (I'm sorry I remember this one)

   Me too.

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: btas: gray ghost
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 07:49:53 GMT


Spoilers about another "in joke" in Beware the Grey Ghost...
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
Did anybody but me notice the silhouettes of Robby the Robot from 
FORBIDDEN PLANET and also a Gremlin, as Simon Trent went in to
sell his Grey Ghost costume?  Were there other "famous toys" in 
there?  And does anyone with a freeze frame have a complete list of 
all the other episode titles, and did any others of them have 
significance?
 
Thanks...

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From: dan@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Re: Anime or Japanimation?
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
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	<1992Nov7.201329.25072@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:06:48 GMT

Ah, the fatal "trekkie" vs. "trekker" argument.  If THAT's all that
the anime/japanimation dbate comes down to than I'll DEFINITELY stickk
with Japanimation.  I always thought that anyone who idntifed
themseelves as a "trekkr" and bothered to argue about it was obviously
in fact, a "trekkie" beecause only a trekkie would worry about
something so trivial.

And I still like to say "sci fi" from time to time.  If it was good
enough for Forry Ackerman, it's good enough for me.

- Dan
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: BTAS:Robin????
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:15:08 GMT

In article <MRYSB6AY@cc.swarthmore.edu> rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Utley) writes:
>In the "Dreams of Darkness" episode, Batman, under the influence of the
>Scarecrow's hallucinogenic gas, visualizes an illusory Poison Ivy, Alfred,
>and ROBIN! By the outfit, it looks like the recent Tim Drake version. Has
>Robin appeared in any of the other BTAS episodes?

Yeah, he appeared in the Ninja episode and one of the other Scarecrow
episodes that I missed.  I believe he was in today's (11/9) episode,
although I haven't watched it yet.  I don't remember if he's been in any
others.
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From: zandonad@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (marco zandonadi)
Subject: Animation NewsMag WANTED
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:05:53 GMT

Video Cartoon & Comics was the only Italian magazine about cartoons 
and animation in general.
Unfortunately it folded a pair of months ago and now I and many other
italian animation fans are in the dark... :-(
As you can easily imagine the question is: can anybody suggest me 
a good non-Italian Animation NewsMag and its address?
The magazine I'm looking for should be quite general and should
talk about all kinds of animation (American, Japanese and European, of course).

Thanks in advance.

Marco

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From: rkh@ucs.att.com (Bob Halloran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS : Grey Ghost (The voice?)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:57:43 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Organization: AT&T Universal Card Services, Jacksonville FL

In article <Bx8H08.IAx@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
>In article <Bx8E1I.CMt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jjh37997@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James J. Herlburt) writes:
>>While watching this flick I was sure that the voice for the Grey Ghost
>>was that of Adam West from the old Batman show but my firends think I'm
>>batty. Would somebody who taped the show look at the credits and see who
>>did the voice and post the answer. Thanks a bunch in advance.
>
>If it is, I'd be VERY surprized. In an interview I saw, Adam West said
>he wouldn't even WATCH the Batman movie!!!

Yes, it was, it's been touted here for weeks, and yes, the credits
confirm it.  The casting was obviously intentional...

	Bob Halloran
	AT&T Universal Card
	Jacksonville FL

	rkh@ucs.att.com
Any similarity between opinions stated here and AT&T's 
  corporate opinion are purely coincidental.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: BTAS:  BEWARE THE GRAY GHOST
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:03:13 PST

In article <1992Nov7.204732.25602@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
> 
> Very good episode.  Some notes:
> 
> - I didn't think they had RC cars back in the late 50's/early 60's (when
>   the GG show was probably made).  I liked Bruce's comment when he saw them:
>   "You've got to be kidding me!!".  That's the way I felt.  :-)
> 
> - The toy car sequences show one of the reasons why I like animation as
>   a medium.  It's one of the few ways you can make little RC cars look
>   menacing AND cool.  :-)
> 
> - When Bob Kane created the Batman character, one of his inspirations
>   was THE SHADOW (a 30's pulp hero, just like GG).

Did they actually say at any point that the Gray Ghost was a pulp hero? I
thought he was pretty much just a TV guy.

> 
> - So I'm watching this story about an out-of-luck actor who can't get
>   any new roles because he's been typecast as a superhero... and then
>   he sounds JUST LIKE ADAM WEST (and it was him, too).  Broke my heart...

Adam West is doing OK for himself in this line...he gets plenty of 'camp'
roles (just this last week he was on one of Fox's skit comedy shows hosting
a parody of '911' about desperate people who call 411--information.  Very
funny.).  The real tragedy in this line is George Reeves, who was so 
despondant over his typecasting as Superman that he eventually shot himself.


> 
> - Talking about voice actors, I'd like to point out that the Mad Bomber
>   was played by none other than Bruce W. Timm, Warner Animation whiz kid
>   who also directed HEART OF ICE.
> 
> - The identity of the bomber took me entirely by surprise, even though
>   it shouldn't have (RC cars are toys, DUH!).  I still thought it was the
>   video collector ("It HAS to be the otaku..." ^_^).
> 
> - Good to see I wasn't the only one to spot the "Matt Hagen" bar on
>   that PEOPLE cover.  BTW, does this count as product placement in
>   animated shows?  Time/Warner publishes PEOPLE magazine, of course.
> -- 
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From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS: Ratings? Censorship?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:53:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES is a great show-- quite probably
the best adaptation of a comic book to the screen I've ever
seen, either live-action or animated.  I'm wondering though how
it is actually doing in the daytime TV ratings.  Has anyone
heard?

Also-- the show is pretty violent for some people's tastes,
though I personally would have no qualms about letting a child
of mine watch it (unless he/she was very easily frightened).
Has anyone heard of any efforts by any do-gooder anti-violence
groups to get the show censored or driven off the air?

Speaking of censorship, do I gather there is some kind of ban
on depicting the actual deaths of Bruce Wayne's parents in
the animated series?

-- 
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& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:04:33 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Michael W. Denney writes
 
> Were they rings or wrist communicators?  My childhood memories seem to
> contain a lot of episodes where Tiny took his off for a moment (a definite
> no-no) and couldn't be reached in an emergency resulting in suspension from
> the team. (I think there was also an episode where one of the 'force'
> removed their communicator to infiltrate Spectra, and the rules are so
> strict that they were suspended for this as well)

Yes, I remember that.. I believe it was Jason (the maverick) that did
this.. I've been known to complain about things here before..
But when I watch it now, it's definitely not the same as when I watched
it as a kid. Back then, it was always the highlight of my day, and I
admired and respected 'the team.' Always wanted to be like them..
I guess that's what makes a kid a kid, eh?
 
> How about those funky outfits the team wore when they were 'off-duty'?
> They all wore stipped bell-bottoms and football-type shirts with a number
> on them corresponding to their position on the team.  And hey! weren't
> those bird-head hoods hot?  Why else did the team look like they never
> washed their hair? ;)

What can I say? It WAS the seventies, you know.. :)

I only have ONE question.. For the people like Sandy Frank who gave us this
butchered abomination, what makes them think they do a good job? 
<sigh.. It still brings back the memories, though>nown to complain about things here before..
But when I watch it now, it's definitely not the same as when I watched
it as a kid. Back then, it was always the highlight of my day, and I
admired and respected 'the team.' Always wanted to be like them..
I guess that's what makes a kid a kid, eh?
 
> How about those funky outfits the team wore when they were 'off-duty'?
> They all wore stipped bell-bottoms and football-type shirts with a number
> on them corresponding to their position on the team.  And hey! weren't
> those bird-head hoods hot?  Why else did t
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: BTAS: How DID Batman get that coin???
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:41:52 GMT

	Everyone seems to be knocking Batman for not being "resourceful"
enough to beat his villians. Needing Joker's weenie fork is a good
example, plus the fact that he didn't save himself, Catwoman did! I'll
admit that this shouldn't be, but there have been some IMPOSSIBLE stuff
going around too. The one that really sticks out in my book is...

	THE DAMNED COIN!!!

	How the hell did Batman get Two-Face's coin in Almost Got'm? I
mean he was "pinned" down (arms AND legs) to the big coin so it's not like he
could grab it from Two-Face? The only way I see him getting it is if
Two-Face flipped it up and it land RIGHT IN Batman's hand. And that is not
very likely.
	Two-Face has been flippin that coin god knows how long so I think
he must be good at it. Even if he isn't he should at least know when he
misses right? So how did it get in Batman's hand?
	I welcome even the most LUDICROUS of suggestions... such as Harvey
Dent took over Two-Face (for a second) and gave the coin to Batman. Big
Bad Harve then took over and realized that he didn't have his precious
coin.
	Come on, I'm sure some of you out there must have similar
suggestions.

Alan Bick

One last thing, how come Two-Face's coin is scratched on the end. I don't
think it was originally. Even if it was, didn't Batman throw the coin into
a fountain? Harvey couldn't tell it apart before, how could he find it in
the fountain later. He didn't even know Batman threw it in the fountain!


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From: jjohnson@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Jeffrey H. Johnson)
Subject: Re: BTAS group?
Organization: NCR CCSD Columbia SC
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 15:00:22 GMT

In article <SS.92Nov3182655@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>>>> On 2 Nov 92 15:37:42 GMT, dchen@dorsai.com (David Chen) said:
>
>dchen> Any chance for Batman the Animated Series fans in getting their
>dchen> own group?  I think it's an awesome cartoon, in the same class
>dchen> as the Simpsons, for different reasons though.  I remember this
>dchen> far in to Tiny Toons first season they had their own group.
>
>Why? This is an animation group. Batman: TAS is animation. The End.

Simpsons is animation.  alt.tv.simpsons  The End.

>Besides the show is a passing fad. I think it's great, but it's own
>group is not valid, just to accomadate people with lousy news readers.

Whoa - who said anything about newsreaders?  And how do you know it's a
fad?  People said the Simpsons was a flash in the pan, too.

David - Look for the FAQ in alt.config if you want to try to create a
newsgroup for BTAS.  Scott may be right, and other people will let you
know if he is.  But he's not necessarily right. :)

Jeff
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From: jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: "Anime" IS "animation"
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:22:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

In article <1992Nov10.225150.5959@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) writes:
>
>The Japanese word "anime" is short for animation.
>
>Now the story that anime come from French, is stretching it a bit.
>It is easy for some to think it is French, thinking the final e as
>an accent agiu, but like most Japanese borrowed words, they are
>contractions from the origianl English.

Actually, it's not stretching it.  For example, if you do a serch in Melvyl
(the U.C. on line card catalog...) for the word "anime" you get a bunch of
french listings.  It's a french word, and they also have a garaigo for
"animation" but this homeboy don't do romaji :-)
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:22:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.125612.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.172131.16911@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>> 
>> I liked Thundarr, but the very first cartoon I can remember watching
>> was called Godzilla.  I can still remember part of the theme: "Up
>> from the depths, 30 stories high..."  I must have been all of 3 when
>> it was on, but I can remember that I adored that show.  How come they
>> never syndicated it?
>> 
>Didn't the same company make a show about King Kong?  If I remember right,
>there was this family that was constantly getting in trouble and
>summoning King Kong to help them.  Or am I imagining the whole thing?
>Nah...I remember part of the theme song.
>"King Kong, you know the name of 
>King Kong, ten times as big as a maaaaaan..."
>
>> --
>> Chris Meadows // CHM173S@SMSVMA // CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
>>    "If blood be the price of admiralty, then I've just bought me 
>>     a naval commission."  -- Corwin, SIGN OF THE UNICORN, Roger Zelazny
>> 
>Joe Walker
>walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu

Might be the same compan, but the "King Kong" show is from the 60's,
and Godzilla came about 8-10 years later, at least.
Pax
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From: chris@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Chris Arps)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS : Grey Ghost (The voice?)
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:43:17 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

I watched it on tape yesterday and the Grey Ghost was indeed read
by Adam West.  In fact the scene where the GG is lamenting that
he is NOT the Grey Ghost but an actor that can do many parts was
definitely the voice of experience.
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From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS: I am the Night
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:54:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cgsvax.1992Nov9.215438.1
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School


Wow.

It's hard to believe this was a show animated for American TV.  I mean,
what was the last afternoon cartoon where we saw this kind of stuff?
A main character actually gets *shot*.  The main conflict of the show
wasn't Batman vs. Jazzman, but Bruce's self-doubt and his struggle with
himself.  This is pretty heady stuff for American carttons.  Up to now
I've been rating the shows in my records on a scale of 1-5 stars; this
one may need six.

Other thoughts:
It would have been interesting to have had Barbara Gordon in a wheelchair--
obviously they couldn't have gone into why, but it would have added even
more drama to the show, at least for the comics readers.  It also would
have resonated nicely with her dad's situation.  Still, it was great to
see the character used effectively without either making her Batgirl (shudder)
or making her entirely helpless.

I continue to be amazed at how effective the supporting cast in the show is.
This isn't just the adventures of Batman, it's also the story of those who
care about him and try to save him from himself.  I'm particularly glad to
see Leslie Thompkins used well again.  Jim, Dick and especially Alfred are
integral parts of the show.  This is the first time outside of the comic
books where we've seen how Bruce's obsession would drag him over the edge
without them.

Ok, the kid hustling change was annoying (did anybody else think it was
Michael J Fox?).  I guess I'll take it back down to five stars. :)

Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
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From: opcarr@netcom.com (Onny Carr)
Subject: Re: BTAS: I am the Night
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:00:18 GMT

ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
: This was the best episode so far I think.
: --

<sigh>  And the ONE episode I missed by forgetting to load a tape.
Don't ya love Mondays.  This proves the existence of God.  :)

Well, hope it'll be rerun soon.

-opc-

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Almost Got 'Im (spoilers)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:32:22 GMT

As others have stated, this one was a treat, and a continuing sign of why I
watch this show -- very good dialogue, good characterizations,
decent-to-excellent animation -- and excellent continuity!  (And notice I
don't append the words "...for animation" onto that comment.)

Spoilers


In <1992Nov11.050044.4088@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>Two-Face's story suffers from Wile. E. Coyote syndrome:  The deathtrap 
>that was supposed to kill the hero fails to kill the villain when it backfires.
>Those thugs should have been paste.  

Well, maybe they *were* paste.  I was watching the show with Jerry Boyajian,
and said, "Hey, look!  First on-screen deaths for BTAS!" :-)  Frankly, the
censors must have been asleep at the wheel for that one.

>     Other neat stuff:  When Bats was revealed, he *didn't* tear off the 
>disguise to reveal his costume beneath.  

Even better, the visual effect that "indicates" Croc is Batman is gorgeous.
Very nicely done.

One of the advantages of animation that recent BTAS episodes have taken
advantage of: the cost of throwing X-zillion of your favorite characters
into an episode (particularly if some of them don't talk -- notice Bullock
and Gordan in the sting operation background) is a lot cheaper than hiring
all those actors in a live-action film.  These days, with digital sound
recording, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these guest-stars didn't
"phone in" their part from home.

                           "Oh.... good call.  HELP!"

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