HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Reading file-date from GFA
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:02:57 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Okay, someone suggested for my little Time & date setter & saver program,
that I store the time & date in the .PRG file's Time & Date-stamp.  Doing
this is easy, I just 'TOUCH' the file.  Reading it back in however, it
not as easy.  How would I go about doing this??

I could call list of the directory with 'FILES' searching for the
TDSS_1_2.PRG file, then storing the list in a string, then getting the
time & date from the string, and setting it - but is there a simpler
method (or, more accurately, a SHORTER method, as that way would increase
the filesize by almost 1k - and something as simple as this program should
not be too big!!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Exchangable Harddisk: How well does they w
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:39:49 GMT

In article 24803@dde.dk, cpr@dde.dk (Claus Priisholm) writes:
>
>I am considering buying a harddisk with removable media, but I no idea how
>well they work, and which one to use (so far I have seen an advert for a
>SyQuest 44M drive).
>
>It must be able to work with my AdSCSI Plus controller and harddisk (Seagate
>something). I am looking for a way of getting a larger disk capacity and a
>convenient way of making backups (just lost the entire disk contents by means
>of DLII and Reorg the other night).

Claus, I've used a Syquest 44 with my Atari and Mac for over 4 years now with
never a problem.  At my work office, we use Syquests as primary storage devices
for some of our machines so they are on all day, every day.  There were
reports of some problems with Syquests a long time ago, but I've never had a
bit of trouble with them, and I bang the carts around mercilessly.

Highly recommended!
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___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: itschere@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Torsten Scherer)
Subject: Re: atari.archive
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:59:17 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

jat@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:
|> 
|> 	I'm getting a lookup failure when I try to ftp to a.a, could some
|> kind soul please mail me the actual real address for this site, now that it
|> has moved, this question does not seem to appear in the faq, yet ! :-)
|> 

I've got two adresses: 141.211.182.23 and/or 141.211.165.41

greeting, TeSche
-- 
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Universidad de Bielefeld, Calle de la Universidad 25, D-W4800 Ciudad de Bielefeld
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paper mail: Wiesenstrasse 28, D-W4970 Bad Oeynhausen 1, Germany
internet e-mail : itschere@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Old Game...what's it called.
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:43:24 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1egpdlINN4bi@golem.wcc.govt.nz> wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Dungeon Master
>Chaos Strikes Back
>Eye of the Beholder
>(^Not on the ST though^)
>Captive (No spells)
>Corporation

Rogue (including commercial version by EPYX)
Nethack
Moria
Larn


--
Warwick
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 /     * <-- Computer Science Department,  /  
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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world,local
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: Winx
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:01:28 -0800

In <!_z1s#h@rpi.edu> bossoj@aix.rpi.edu (Joseph Charles Bossolini) writes:

> I just downloaded a copy of Winx in hopes of using it to patch
>my TOS 1.4 to be able to use more than 8 windows.  Unfortuanately,
>I don't understand German, and I cannot make heads or tails of the
>instructions!!  

	From what I've determined, Winx works only on German Roms, so I
guess the answer to you question is yes and no. I'd heard the author was
going to add US 1.4 ROM support, but that hasn't happened yet, and no
one in NA has tried to figure out what the differences are and patch it.
I traced through the program for a few hours, but never went back to it.
	So for now, you're only real way of using it is to obtain German 1.4
roms and install them. Or get into assembly hacking and fix the WINX
program. I'm guessing the author found a sysrem routine that checked
window open limits, and patched around it. Obviously musch of the GEM
code must be open ended enough that there's a limit check holding the
window limit down, unless the author of Winx rewrote a lot of routines.


-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Floptical Hardware Requirements
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:35:06 GMT

>Do you HAVE to use ICD's LINK to connect a floptical?  I have an ICD host
>adaptor for my external SCSI hard disk.  Can I not plug a floptical into the
>DMA out plug on the external disk?

The story that I hear locally is:

Yes, it works with the other ICD Host Adaptors.

But you need the newest version of the software (something like
ICDBoot 6.0.4).  There was someone that picked up one of these units,
and was trying to run it using version 6.0.2, without success.  It's
probably a good excuse to send ICD five bucks to upgrade you to the
latest edition.

There may also be problems formatting flopticals using a version of
ICDFORMAT.PRG older than the latest edition.  

I suggest you wait 2 weeks until the versions stabilize before buying
:-).  It probably won't take as long as Falcon, since the hardware and
software are both quite readily available, but may just need some
coordination.  And ICD seems to be a little more coordinated than
Atari...

-- 
Christopher Browne                |     PGP 2.0 key available
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca           |===================================
University of Ottawa              |  The Personal Computer:  Colt 45
Master of System Science Program  |  of the Information Frontier
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Wolfgang Ley)
Subject: Re: Default Drive B
Organization: Rechenzentrum der TU CLAUSTHAL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:27:17 GMT

In article <11019@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>
imacleod@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain R Macleod CS90) writes:
 
>Does anyone know if it is possible to emulate floppy drive B as the default drive.  I have a copy of a 'Boot' program for drive B but this returns
>control to drive A after booting.
>
>Iain.
 
Hello!
 
There are some programs doing that. Some examples are available via
anonymous FTP from ftp.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.1.3). Get
 /pub/atari/disktools/other/dblefeat.lzh    and/or
 /pub/atari/disktools/other/divert13.lzh
With these programs you can change any drives by software (e.g. C <-> D)
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: atari.archive
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:14:29 GMT

knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels) writes:

>I've got one more: 141.211.164.8.
>As I remember weiner (?) told us not to use these adresses instead of
>atari.archive.umich.edu .

Then why post it nonetheless???

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
From: afonseca@terapin.com (Alberto Fonseca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ATARI - Secret
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:55:08 PST
Organization: BBS

It seems that ATARI may have had it together all along, but kept it a secret,
which caused it to loose support and... well you know the rest.

I was reading some messages on the stuff available for the ST, what really
interested me, as well as surprised me, was the graphics cards for the ST.  I
own an ATARI 1040 STE... You can upgrade it to 4 megabytes of ram, put a high
resolution/color card in it, get tos 2.07, get a 25 mzh accellerator, 1.44
megabyte disk drive, big hard disk, multi-sync monitor, and some programming
software like Lattice C for the ST, and you have a machine which is "up there"
with the rest, and a programmable machine with many possibilities.

Of course, I will wait for the Falcon instead.. I am happy to have read that
there is already a graphics card waiting for the Falcon, at alot higher
resolution on a SuperVGA monitor.. I'm glad, I thought the resolution was to
low to begin with..

So with the proper information, software and upgrades.. Those who are
interested in developing don't have to feel bad about it.. There is actually
enough ST stuff to keep us happy, we just have to look for it.. Not like the
other computer companies, that try to help the users..  I still think its worth
it..

So I'll get a Falcon, upgrade it, make some nice software and put on the
package "REQUIRES 4 MEGAYBTES OF RAM, AND A FALCON SCREENBLASTER".  With the
DSP chip, sound quality, video and memory, I think one can make a great CD ROM
Based game or even a Really proffessional program.. Maybe even a hardware/CD
ROM package that can blow away the AMIGA's Video Toaster.

Please tell me what you think about this, and if any of you share these visions
with me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: imacleod@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain R Macleod CS90)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Default Drive B
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:03:19 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

Does anyone know if it is possible to emulate floppy drive B as the default drive.  I have a copy of a 'Boot' program for drive B but this returns control to drive A after booting.

Iain.
From: mjb@cs.nott.ac.uk (M J Brownlow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Grav 2
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:45:46 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

Having been talking on irc, I have come to the conclusion that hardly
anybody knows that Grav 2 is on atari.archive.

Its been reviewed in 3 mags so far, and got rave reviews in 2, and 83% in
the other.

Its shareware, and well worth a look

atari/Games/grav2.arc

Thanks,

Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ansga01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Thomas Gaiser)
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 10:21:40 GMT

Maybe my first response on the subject SS1 vs. SS2 was a bit too fast, since
I don't know SS1 well enough. Still, IMHO SS2 is worth its price because
it's one of the very few ST games I didn't have any problems with installing on
hard disk or with any accessories or progs in the auto-folder. It works fine,
sounds fine, looks fine and for me the missions are hard enough.

--
*  Thomas Gaiser            * ansga01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de *
*  Seminar fuer Sinologie   *                                       *
*  Herrenberger Str. 51     *                                       *
*  7400 Tuebingen, Germany  *                                       *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry)
Subject: Re: The FALCON - too slow ??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:51:43 GMT

In article <annius.721647206@freyr> A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl writes:
>leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry) writes:
>
>>It is slow because Atari STILL haven't made use of STe's hardware scrolling
>>(which I assume is available on the Falcon) in TOS.  Apart from the slowdown
>
>I suspect you don't even know what the 'hardware scrolling' facilities of the
>STE actually are (and the same for the other post in this thread mentioning the
>fact that `nobody uses the STE hardware scrolling'.).

I know that the screen start address to be varied by a word at a time allowing
vertical scrolling by adding/subtracting the number of bytes in line times the
number of lines you wish to scroll by.
  I don't know whether you can specify a vertical offset (where the screen
starts scanning at the screen address+offset and after reaching screen
address+size of screen continues at screen address), but probably not since
this can easily be done in software using the timer B counter.
  In the case of horizontal scrolling you can specify both a horizontal offset
and a number of bytes to skip between scan lines to give a virtual screen
wider than the one displayed.
  Of course, these features only apply to the whole screen - to scroll in a
window you must use the blitter, which should be fast enough, however many
programs just redraw the whole window when it is scrolled (Which can be faster
if no blitter is fitted).

- Leo

>
>--
>Annius Groenink  --  Universiteit Utrecht  --  PTT Research Leidschendam
From: as423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth A. Wallace)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Freeze Dried Ripoff!
Date: 15 Nov 1992 15:46:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   Has anyone else out there been ripped off by Aaron Hopkins
and his Freeze Dried Term? I have been waiting six months for 
his product, the check was cashed in early July. I have sent him
a letter with a photocopy of the check explaining I have not yet
received the program, and would he please send it. I figure the
only way I will get my money is if I take a little 2 1/2 hour 
drive to Manhattan Beach and knock on his door. It is too bad,
one jerk can make is bad on all shareware authors. Once again,
do not buy his product unless you wish to lose $25.00. And it's 
name would be better as Freeze Dried Ripoff Ware!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Subject: Re: Cyber-stuff
Reply-To: rvenable@helix.nih.gov (Richard M. Venable)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:39:28 GMT

In article <20NOV92.08890564.0092@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, Alan Edwards
<EDWR@UNB.CA> writes:
|> I realize that this must have been covered here before, but I am new
|> to this list...
|>      I was at my friends last night, and he has
|> CyberPaint and Cad 3D. These both look like pretty good programs,
|> but I can't find them in any catalog. Have they gone away?

They are both from Antic software, which no longer exists.

|> I had been looking at the Lexicor programs to do similar sorts of
|> things, but they are pretty expensive. Are they really worth the
|> extra $$.

I think one of the developers of CyberPaint was programming for
Lexicor;
anyway, there is some Cyber compatibility with file types.  I
understand
Tom Hudson, the CAD3D guy, now works for the AutoCAD company.
From: jensk@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: X windows server on ST
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:17:50 GMT
Organization: HP

I don't know all system calls used by the standard X Server (it's been a long
time since I last installed one), but you'll probably have the most
difficulties with the socket-related stuff (MiNT doesn't have sockets, yet).
If you *really* want to do this, IMHO it would be easiest to replace the
sockets by FIFOs; that way you could at least run clients on the ST.

	Jens.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject:  Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:01:45 GMT

> >The December issue had a company trying to teach you about music on computers.
> >They were giving away an ST when you payed their tuition.  Their was even a
> >520/1040 style case (couldn't tell which because of the small picture).

> I love this ad. It's been around for years, and it gets my vote for "dumbest
> mistake in a magazine ad". The picture in the ad protrays a man sitting at a
> desk with an ST in front of him, and an electronic keyboard to his right. He
> appears to running some kind of sequencing program. Now, look at the picture. 
> Look at the MIDI ports on the left side of the ST... WITH NOTHING PLUGGED INTO
> THEM! 

> How can they claim to know anything about the ST's use in music, and not even
> have the computer set up right in their ads?

WHAT YOU DON'T USE VAPOR CABLES FOR YOUR MIDI ??!!??

But Seriously. Whenever you take pictures of equipment you try to present
the concept in the cleanest possible way. If I remember that ad correctly
the mouse appears to be connected to the rear of the system. Next time
you see a person using an electronic gadget in the movies or on TV look 
for what's missing. It will surprise you. (Hint on TV you NEVER have to
extend the antenna on your cordless phone.)


BTW did anybody notice the MegaSTe on the Sunday night movie a couple
weeks ago. I forget the title, but this guy was some kind of composer
and in his living room was an Atari "wedding cake". It could have been 
a TT, I could not read the label.

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
bjgrier@bnr.ca
From: jared@midiline.la.ca.us (Luposian Knightwolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Deskjet 500C probs...
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:00:31 GMT
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

I have an Atari MEGA ST2 (TOS 1.2), and it doesn't like working with my 
HP Deskjet 500C.  Is there someone out there who can tell me how to 
create a printer driver in 1st Word (not 1st Word Plus!) to work with my 
HP Deskjet 500C?  Also, it seems, after the first printout from the 
desktop I do on my Deskjet (you know, double clicking on a non-program 
file to get the [Show] [Print] [Cancel] dialog box), it won't do anything 
more.  If I tryu another printout, it just sits there, like the printer 
isn't connected.  But I know it is... What's wrong?
 
Detailed explainations, assistance, help, etc. much appeciated.
 
Reply in Email to: jared@midiline.la.ca.us
 
Thanks!
 
Jared

-----
jared@midiline.la.ca.us (Luposian Knightwolf) 
MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Wanted: Site with GEMVIEW 2.1
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:29:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov18.032906.19159
Organization: University of Washington


I ftp'ed Gemview 2.01, and it looks incredible.  But one major thing
doesn't work on it that did on the earlier version (1.11) that I have;
namely, the mouse scrolling when the right button is pressed.  It just
locks the machine up.  I have a TT with TOS 3.05.  I tried it in all
resolutions with all combinations of auto programs.

Anyone else have this problem, or even better, a solution?

Thanks,

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: Reply to Matt (floptical)
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:56:31 GMT

Flopticals plug right into any machine with a SCSI port; like the TT. If
you have a DMA port (like any ST/STE), then you need the ICD LINK DMA-SCSI
cable. With the LINK cable, just plug in the floptical to you hard disk
port, boot with the ICD driver that comes with the LINK and that's it.
You now have a 21 meg floptical that, as far as your computer is concerned,
is a hard disk! In addition to the 21 meg disks, the floptical reads 720K
and 1.44 meg floppies. One problem, if you have TOS 1.2 or less, programs
will not run from the floptical.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:01:46 +0100
From: Benedikt_Heinen@firemark.fido.de (Benedikt Heinen)
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
X-Comment-To: (Thomas Gaiser)
Organization: Firemark.BBS - 1st Atari ST Node Aachen 

 >> I have Silent Service 1.  Is Silent Service 2 an
 >> improvement worth the $45 it costs?
 TG> Yes.
 TG> Nice graphics, good sound, and you can run it from harddisk!

Nope!
It definately didn't get any harder or more realistic. The old one is still 
enough - I think. The only real new items are:
    - you can choose your sub yourself now
    - you can play a campaign with several patrols in it throughout the war
      (and see the tonnage that you would have sank in a whole war rather
       than only seeing, what you could have done on a single patrol).

Sounds/Graphics got better than the SS-I, but on the other hand the "enemy 
intelligence" became by far worse than in SS-I.
   (For example: Scenario "Cavalla" tried
         10 times tried in SS-I   -> 1 time victorious
         10 times tried in SS-II  -> 7 times victorious)

So - save your money for another purpose than buying SS-II!

yours,

      Benedikt
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Dungeon type games
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:33:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Phil (naffara@uk.ac.crc)  asked about Bloodwych II...

Actually, the second game was released as "Bloodwych Data Disks - Vol. 1.

I understand MirrorSoft is out of business, so probably the only way
to find a copy would be to check the mail-order sources who specialize
in import (to the US) games, to see if they have any left.  The copyright
date is 1989 though, so it's not very promising...

You COULD try MirrorSoft's old phone number and see if anyone is still
answering there...   01-928-1454

BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Need help with connecting SCSI drive to ST
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:41:16 GMT

In article <1enpakINN5mf@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> @prism.cs.orst.edu writes:
>I have a Supra 20 Meg HD .  The manual says the HD has two components: an
>interface and a drive with embedded controller.  Can I disconnect the drive
>and connect just the interface to a SCSI drive?  I'm thinking of connecting
>to a SyQuest removable drive.  If not, what do I need to connect the SyQuest?

You can do better than that, just get yourself a SCSI cable with 3 or more
connectors on it. Then you can have the "interface" ("host adapter") as well
as the 20 MB drive *and* the Syquest connected all at once. The "drive with
embedded controller" is definitely a SCSI drive....
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:53:05 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> I can live with playing it from floppy, what I found hard to live with is the
> escorts sailing straight through a tanker to attack you and the way sonar works
> when the vessel is doing 30 knots. Oh and one other snippet is when your lookouts
> spot a battleship at 180 yds range it's a bit too late.

So maybe there's even some playability reasons not to get SS2 over SS1?

			-Matt
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