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From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: Command shells: DOS, Ndos, 4dos
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:10:21 GMT

All my dos applications currently run with the DOS command processor
shell. For various reasons I would rather they run with my nicely
configured Ndos shell (same as 4dos isn't it?). However, when I change
the Settings Shell line from
	C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS /P
to
	c:\nu\ndos.com c:\nu /e:2048 /p
I get the command shell but my application no longer runs, and the 
autoexec.bat file is not processed, and I don't get the usual
"Invalid MS-DOS version" message.

Come to think of it, why is that message there? Why is the DOS
version listed as version 20.0?

John Calvert
calvert@mast.queensu.ca
From: hildajk1@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Ken Hildabolt)
Subject: Re: 32-bit Trident drivers hang my system as well !
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:35:12 GMT

roland@vnet.ibm.com (Roland Cise) writes:

>I had great hopes of the newly released Trident 32bit drivers, but as
>yet to no avail. I have been trying to get SVGA working on OS/2 2.0 since
>it went GA in April this year, and this has turned somewhat into a crusade
>Other folk can get the Trident drivers to work so why not me ?

>I installed the latest drivers, exactly as per the notes, ie:-

>  1. In a pure DOS session -
>     Copyied over the new SVGA.EXE and ran SVGA ON DOS. Why did this create
>     SVGADATA.PMI for an IBMSVGA Chipset ? After several attempts at mucking
>     around with this a SVGADATA.DOS was created for a Trident 8900. This was
>     about 21200 bytes. What I did to produce this, heaven knows ! Is this
>     correct ? Anyway this was renamed as SVGADATA.PMI in D:\OS2 directory.

>  2. Copied over IBMVGA32.DLL, BVHSVGA.DLL, fonts and the 600x480x256 driver
>     as IBMDEV32.DLL. I did not copy the VSVGA.SYS file.

>  3. Ensured CONFIG.SYS settings were OK for SVGA.

>  4. Rebooted. Machine hung with blank screen, cursor flashing top LH corner.

>This is all I have ever managed to get. What am I doing wrong ?

>My configuration:- 486/33 DX Clone, AMI Bios
>                   16Mb RAM
>                   170Mb IDE (Cached controller) Hard disk
>                   105 Mb Quantum Plus hardcard
>                   Trident 8900c display board
>                   OS/2 2.0 GA + SP.
>                   Dual boot with Boot Manager
>                   MSDos 5.0 on drive C:
>                   OS/2 2.0  on drive D:

>Roland Cise                       Internet: roland@vnet.ibm.com
>CICS/ESA Data Interface
>IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley,
>England, SO21 2JN

Its time to look at your Trident Card. Is the Autosense jumper on or off.
Its J4 on my Tridenet card, try it in the opposite position from where
it currently is.

Ken

-- 
Ken Hildabolt
The Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Laboratory
hildajk1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu      CIS: 70674,1657
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM Stealth Product of the Year
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:29:21 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Dec16.203253.11032@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com writes:
>Now, the problem is finding someone at IBM who will actually sell this  
>product to you (the Form Number is SK2T-1175). I spent about an hour today  
>getting bounced from one 800 number to the next, and never was successful.
>Does anyone have a clue how to order what sounds like a wonderful product?

I just ordered it from IBM Direct, at (800) IBM-CALL (426-2255). This only
works if you have a custimer number to order with, though.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Brought to you by the letters O, S, and by the number 2." -- Mike Levis
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: hwhalen@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Hugh Whalen)
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Organization: Faculty of Administration, University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:25:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.072137.28867@sequent.com> furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.210437.934@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram) writes:

[Stuff about IBM laying off 25,000 people deleted]

>
>I think it would be prudent to ask the question as to where the
>cuts are coming from. Remember, IBM has started decentralizing it's
>busineses and while the PC products Division may be going great
>guns, their mainframe division may be suffering terribly, so you
>might find the cuts coming from a source that has little to no
>impact on the product (OS/2) that you are currently using. Also,
>IBM is among the most conservative of the blue chip stock companies
>and has long earned it's reputation as a stable commodity in the

Ahem .... stable? I believe that around 1987 IBM stock was trading at 
approximately $178 per share. Yesterday it was trading at $56 per 
share. God help us if this is stability. :) 

>volatile stock market. This implies that they have planned for this 
>and are trimming the fat from the company to be come more 
>competative. 
> 
>While the numbers are gargantuan as compared to someone like 
>Borland or Microsoft, it represents a much smaller percentage of 
>IBM as a whole than Microsoft. I would not worry about OS/2 support 
>suffering. Right now, it's becoming a cash cow for them and they
                                       ^^^^^^^^ 

Cash cow? I don't think so. The most optimistic numbers I've heard are 
2 million units sold. Lots went out at what ....$49. Others have gone 
to retail outlets and since the retail outlets have to make a profit 
the full price of these units did not go to IBM. Subtract costs for 
disks, manuals, suppport!!!!, bug fixes!!!!, shipping, order taking, 
advertising, beta testing, etc. and there is no way that this product 
*at this time* is a cash cow. If IBM got an average of $50 per unit 
sold then they received at most $100,000,000  from OS/2 sales. This is 
not much in a company that has over $50,000,000,000 in sales. It is at 
most .2% of their sales.


>have announced plans to integrate it into their other system
>platform. As long as people continue to buy OS/2, IBM will continue
>to promote it's growth and useability.

Maybe, in fact, probably .... but more as a matter of strategy and ego 
rather than the dubious fact that it's a cash cow.

Hugh Whalen                     | Where all men think alike, no one
Faculty of Administration       | thinks very much.
University of New Brunswick     |               - Walter Lippmann			


DISCLAIMER: Neither UNB nor I care what the other thinks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jburns@pdxgp1 (John Justin Burns Jr.)
Subject: Re: NT won't co-exist with OS/2?   
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:04:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.013647.18178@cdf.toronto.edu> g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis) writes:
>In article <sal8.246.724201910@po.cwru.edu> sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski) writes:
>>The NT beta has code included that makes it absolutely refuse to install if 
>>it detects the OS/2 boot manager on your hard drive. Pretty rude of MS if 
>>you ask me (OS/2 does no such check for NT).
>
> Hmm, that just gave me a hell of an idea! Why not write a little utility
> that will disable the OS/2 Boot Manager bit from the Master Boot Record?
>
> And make it available for ftp! Who knows I might get a chance over X-mas
> to do this myself. Don't hold your breath though.
>
> Nick.
>
Nick,

Sorry to respond to this same post twice.

This capability is very important to me.  If you are not going to write
it then I will try.  My problem is very little knowledge of the boot manager/
boot process.  Where can I get information on this topic.

Please let me know if you are or are not going to write this program.

How would this work?  An OS/2 program to go in and alter the Master Boot
Record?  Then an NT program to set it back after NT is installed?  Or use
NT's fdisk.  Could OS/2's fdisk disable the boot manager?  

Lots of questions.  As you can tell I am quite excited over this.

Thanks

John
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pendrith@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Pendrith)
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 for OS/2 will >not< release this month
Reply-To: pendrith@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Pendrith)
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.232055.28242@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan) writes:
>
>I recently spoke to someone at the OS/2 telephone support about a problem
>I was having with the Win-OS/2 in the service pack.  While discussing
>the problem, I asked about the next release of OS/2 (the one containing
>Win 3.1 support).  He told me that while IBM is still aiming for an
>end of the year release date, the problems IBM is encountering with
>the service pack are making a lot of people at IBM concerned about
>trying to release the new code so quickly.  Apparently there
>is feeling that an inadequate amount of testing was done on the service
>pack and that it didn't meet IBM's quality standards.  Therefore the
>IBMers want to make sure that the next release is up to snuff.  According
>to the IBM rep, they will do two rounds of beta testing on the new version
>code before release.  This made it fairly certain in his mind that the
>release would not happen in December.
>
>I admire the IBM person's candor.  I would much rather have a bug free
>product a little late than a buggy product now, and I am glad IBM
>thinks the same way.  It's refreshing to encounter something besides
>most software companies "push it out the door" mentality.  Probably 
>Microsoft fans will jump all over this, saying that IBM missed a ship
>date.  I don't really care.  To me it's much more important that a product
>be of high quality than be in line with some artificial date on the calendar.
>
>--Tony
>quan@cs.stanford.edu
>

hear, hear. even with "free" CSDs, there is a significant cost overhead in
terms of the time to get the new code installed and running. nothing worse
than getting one set of bugs replaced by a new batch (and a devil you don't
know at that.) three cheers for IBM being one company that has the maturity
to treat their customers with this respect for their time and intelligence.

sorry if this sounds like an advocacy post. it *is* something i feel strongly 
about tho. i've sworn off Borland compilers for life simply because they
wont't publish a known bug list.

- Mark Pendrith

pendrith@cs.unsw.oz.au
From: rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org (Kai Uwe Rommel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 NOT 32 Bit?
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:41:48 GMT
Organization: Private

In article <92352.112713ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>You are right and they are wrong. There are _some_ parts that are 16Bit. Though
>the only one I know of was the old (GA Version) graphics engine. Since the
>service pack it is 32Bit. OS/2 has the old APIs for 16 apps and perhaps the
>texmode I/O functions are 16Bit code. But as I understand IBM wants to move
>to PM-only operation, so it would be logical not to change that to 32Bit code.

Actually, more parts of PM are still 16-bit, such as the Window
Manager and apparently also the GPI. They will be converted to 32-bit
over the next year, as far as I know.

Kai Uwe Rommel

--
/* Kai Uwe Rommel                                      Muenchen, Germany *
 * rommel@jonas.gold.sub.org                       Phone +49 89 723 4101 *
 * rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                  Fax +49 89 723 7889 */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Monthly Has Arrived!!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:52:01 GMT

In article <40.2b2a1414@ivgate> bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org writes:
>Today, 11 December 1992, the mailman brought me the December issue (Vol 1,
>No 6) of _OS/2 Monthly_. IT'S FINALLY SHIPPING!! Let's hope this is the
>start of something good.
>
>

So,.... what do people think about this issue?   I just received it,
my first issue, and I wasn't all that impressed.  Of course Issue 1 of
PC Magazine left a lot to be desired too.



-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." Oscar Wilde
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mjn@sbmiclr.cs.sunysb.edu (The Sixth Replicant)
Subject: Re: Which Tape Drive for OS/2?
Organization: Tyrell Corp.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:08:35 GMT

In article <78280@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0554c@prism.gatech.EDU (MCCONNELL) writes:
>
>I am looking to get a tape drive to back up my hard drive under OS/2.
>Does anyone recommend one? I want to make sure the proper drivers
>are available before I buy. What software do I want to use?

I got an Irwin Accutrak 250 Internal a couple of months ago. I love it. They
have very nice PM software for OS/2. You can get the drive with DOS software
for about $240-$250. The upgrade to OS/2 software costs $99 from Maynard
(Irwin's a division of Maynard now). Hope this helps (tm).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: (Q) driver for 20M floptical on SCSI
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:52:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.081655.1703@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> vthrc@mailbox.uq.oz.au writes:
>perhaps somebody might be able to answer a simple question that our dealer
>doesn't seem able to: is there an OS/2 driver for an Insite 20M floptical
>drive? We are currently running one under DOS with a Grassroots SCSI adaptor,
>but that card incorporates an EPROM BIOS instead of a driver (see below). Maybe
>some generic SCSI disk driver (for removables) would work, but the Grassroots
>approach is nice cause it allows you to use it as a standard floppy drive as
>well as supporting the 20M disks. I'm quite ignorant on OS/2, so I don't know
>whether such a driver would be layered on top of the Adaptec SCSI driver or
>exists as a standalone, but we'd be prepared to sacrifice the ability to boot
>from the floptical and use it purely for the 20M disks.

You'd need a SCSI adapter natively supported by OS/2 (like Adaptec,
Trantor, Future Domain, etc).  If so, it should work.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Are they fast or are they slow? (Tri32)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:37:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <GKUSHMER.92Dec15140309@jade.tufts.edu> gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek) writes:
>As I am using the generic drivers (Thanks, by the way, for those) and have
>not yet tried putting on the 32 bit drivers, I'm curious to know
>if it is worth it.

They're pretty fast for everything except running a session in a window.
But is that true for all 8-bit color drivers?  (I am running a 386/25...
is this also a factor?)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:12:18 EST
From: <MTC107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Playing CD's through a SB
 <1992Dec15.103930.10939@actrix.gen.nz>

>> Is it possible to play CD's on a SCSI controller (Trantor controller, Texel
>> drive) through a Soundblaster (1.5 NOT PRO).
>>
>> I have installed MMPM/2 from the PDK and have the new ftp-os2 drivers
>> installed.
>>
>> Tom J Parry.
>
>If you have CD drivers that can be installed in MMPM/2...you should be able to
>get the sound, too.
>
>Steve

I have this very configuration, and it sort of works.  It works fine under
WINOS231.  However, with the MMPM SB drivers loaded it does not work.  That
is, the SB card does not play the music out the speakers.  Has anyone else
encountered this difficulty?  MMPM plays the CD, you just cannot hear it.
The same problem exists under WINOS231 when you have the MMPM drivers loaded.

Mark
From: hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: C Drive Problems after installing Service Pack
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:03:16 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

jld@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (J. L. David) writes:

>I suspect the EA file is corrupted or did not get built properly
>during the reinstall.  If anybody has a clue as to what I can
>do to get things working I'd appreciate it.  (CHKDSK /F does
>not work from within OS/2 and I'm not sure what it might do to
>the EA file if I ran it from DOS).

Jeff,

why does CHKDSK not work from within OS/2??
Try one (or all) of the following:
a) run CHKDSK /F (from floppy boot, if necc. Insert Install Disk, then
   instert disk #1 when prompted, then hit ESC to get to the command line
   and run CHKDSK /F C: of disk #2)
b) delete c:\wp root. sf <type "del wp*.?sf from DOSprompt)
c) also delete c:\ea data. sf as a _last_ mesure. You will lose all
   settings from applications on drive C

Use step a) after each of b) and c). This should get you working.

-Hajo
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From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Subject: Re: What is the recommended size for an OS/2 system-only partition?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:37:23 GMT

>I'll jump on this since, IMHO, there are right and wrongs ways to partition
>the system.  I've installed some 8 systems under the following "principle".
>
>Primary partition 1:    1 MB for Boot manager
>Primary partition 2:   30 MB FAT  (C:) DOS compatibility partition
>Extended partition 1: 100 MB HPFS (D:) Main OS/2 boot partition and software.
>                                       All commercial packages easy to restore
>                                       here.  Seldom backed up.
>Extended partition 2: 200 MB HPFS (E:) Main data/development partition.  Gets
>                                       backups regularly.
>Extended partition 3:  50 MB HPFS (F:) Test disk for installs of beta OS/2
>Extended partition 4:  20 MB FAT  (G:) Swap partition.  Set so swap never
>                                       competes with user space.  If 20 MB is
>                                       not enough, you need more memory.


     The thing that suprised me here was that the SWAP partition is FAT, NOT
HPFS. In my experience, the swap file on a FAT drive is markedly slower
than on HPFS.

     Also, is the DOS compatability partition visible to OS/2 or is it hidden.

     Also also, as an aside, Boot Manager allows you to set a extended
partition bootable, installable and the like, but when I tried to install
DOS 5.0 in it, it would not boot. I would just get garbage scolling across
the screen, and the machine would hang. Is this setup supposed to be
possible? The reason I ask, is your OS/2 partition is setup as an extended,
and it works. Does this not work for DOS as well?

Peter Schepers.
University of Waterloo.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: figueroa@cs.NYU.EDU (Samuel A. Figueroa)
Subject: Where ATM fonts can be installed
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:51:05 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:22:10 GMT

jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:

>Humor us. Try replacing your RAM with a set from a different system,
>preferably one known to run OS/2 with no problems.

>Al is not the only one who has seen TRAP 0002s be memory problems. That goes
>for everyone here, including IBM. OS/2 is known to be a torture test for
>memory. Other programs, including what were thought to be heavy-duty
>diagnostics, have been known to run properly on systems where OS/2 had TRAP
>0002s which were cured by replacing RAM.

Well, if you first say that the RAM is fine even for heavy duty diagnostics,
but not for OS/2, then say the problem is with RAM, there is ome kind of
contradiction. It is not like most RAM out there is "mortal" RAM, and there
is some very privileged, select few RAM chips that are the ultimate in RAM
chips. All RAM that is in perfect condition are pretty much the same, and getting
RAM that happens to "work" with OS/2 is pure luck. 

Is OS/2 this picky with all hardware, making it a metter of pure luck?
(I know I already got unlucky with my modem).

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: d89os@efd.lth.se (Ola Sigurdson)
Subject: Re: EISA/MCA *or* Local Bus? Which is better for multitasking?
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:45:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.231538.29868@blkbox> rbarnett@blkbox (Rick Barnett) writes:
>goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>>Hello.
>>I am curious as to which is better for OS/2, EISA/MCA or VL-Bus.(Vesa Local Bus)
>>Here is my setup:
>>single user on a stand alone pc.
>>that's pretty much it.
>>I will be running lotsa programs..games, word processors, Pascal, Mathcad,
>>whatever else.
>>Anyways, I would like to know which would offer better performance.
>
>EISA is 32 bits wide with bus mastering but only runs at 8 MHz.  Video and
>hard disk controller cards are few and expensive.
>VESA is 32 bits wide with bus mastering and runs at CPU speed (up to 50 MHz).
>A fair number of manufacturers have announced or already produce VL-Bus cards,
>and the prices aren't much higher than the ISA versions of the same cards.

>Blair R. Barnett       u5c95@lfhp113.hso.link.com
>Sr. Systems Engineer   522-0045@mcimail.com	
>CAE-Link Corporation   rbarnett@sugar.NeoSoft.com OR sugar!rbarnett@uu.psi.com
>Houston TX             Visit Space Center Houston! Land the Space Shuttle!

I thought this topic had been beaten to death already :-)
An EISA system will get more tasks done per time unit than a local-bus
thing  b e c a u s e  the CPU and bus aren't tightly coupled (and for a
couple of other technical reasons).
That said, as long as you only run interactive applications, one
at a time, local-bus video cards will give you reasonable performance
at a much lower cost than EISA.
If you don't agree, go study computer architecture, run a couple of
simulations, or put an EISA and a local-bus database server side by
side and time them.


-- 
Ola Sigurdson | Internet: d89os@efd.lth.se |
[Hi! I'm a mutant .signature virus. Let me kill your old .signature virus.]
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Orchid has new S3 Beta drivers
Summary: New drivers for Orchid F1280 (S3)
Keywords: OS2 video drivers S3 Fahrenheit 1280
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:31:01 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab


Those with Orchid's Fahrenheit 1280 might want to get new versions
of the OS2 2.0 drivers from the Orchid BBS (510)-683-0555 (v.32)
from the BETA directory of the Files area.
 
Whether these may also function with the Stealth VRAM is moot,
at least to me - Diamond seems to have messed around with the
ET4 cards, so it is likely the VRAM differs enough from the
Stealth that these drivers may not work with the Stealth.
 
The files are dated Dec 14, so they may be 32-bit, but someone
else (who has an F1280) should check this out and verify -
I have an ET4000, so I'm not about to download these files :-)
 
-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-7986
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