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From: jerde@vmdb.vet.purdue.edu (Lynn Warble)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: My dog hyperventilates in his cage
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:40:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University SVM

In article <BsyCso.LDz@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> giguere@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Giguere) writes:
>My dog Dino, acquired from the local humane society not too long ago, has
>a real phobia about being left in a cage.  Once he's in he starts to shake
>and start panting like crazy.  He won't touch any food or water left in the
>cage, or play with any toys.  Once I came home and he had managed to bend
>part of the cage door, trying to get out.  I'm trying to get him over his
>phobia -- who knows what the previous owners did? -- and am wondering if 
>anyone has any good suggestions for me....
>
>-- 
> Eric Giguere                                    giguere@csg.UWaterloo.CA
>          So is Windows NT short for "Windows, NOT?"  
Your dog hates the crate.  You need to retrain him to like it and to
think of it as his space or room.  Try putting the crate in whatever room
you are going to be in for awhile (i.e. living room) and put Dino in 
the crate and sit next to himn for awhile with the music playing and talking
to him and just living.  You might hide a treat in there for him to find
to show it can be pretty nifty in the crate.  Just try short periods
of time.  After maybe ten minutes praise him for being such a good
dog and let him out.  Keep doing this every day only for longer periods of 
time.  Eventually, put him in the crate and leave for a few minutes.  When
you come back praise  him for being such a good dog.  My dogs sleep in 
their crates at night and know this is where their bed is.  They run
into their crates after being let out at night to potty.  They have
just been trained that this is a good place to be.  If the crate is near
your bedroom or in your bedroom at night, the dog will be reassured by
your presence.  Good luck.
Lynn Warble
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From: gccsebg@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Flea Powder as Carpet Powder?
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:33:41 GMT
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

In article <1992Aug16.222731.9130@leland.Stanford.EDU>, shedevil@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anne P. Mitchell, JD) writes:
> I know that there has been a lot of talk about such things as using
> borax on one's carpet to help control fleas...but I have never seen
> a discussion [perhaps I've just missed it?] of sprinkling flea powder
> on the carpeting, and then vacuuming it up, much like the deoderizing
> carpet powders one can get.
> 
> How about it?  Any reason to not do it?  Any reason it wouldn't work?

I am new to sending mail messages, so please bear with me.

In Australia there is a product on the market which is a carpet sprinkle
with flea powder.  I bought it and it seems to smell ok.  It doesn't
smell strongly of insecticides.  I am sure if you check the latest 
products on the market, you will also find something of a similar nature.

Anyway, hope this is a help.
  
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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: New Husky in the Family
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:42:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.051406.24955@csc.canberra.edu.au> Stacey Curtis <sec@csc.canberra.edu.au> writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.193521.12337@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
>24249-knights, krk1@pyuxe.uucp writes:
>>As of Friday, we have become the caretakers of a second
>>white Siberian husky.  Things seem to be going pretty well
>>so far, but I wanted to get some advice on how to handle
>>the inevitable scrapping as they work out their relationship.
>
>I have two Alaskan Malamutes and at one stage owned three Siberian
>Huskies, now I only have one.  We had problems with the pecking order
>when we introduced our 1 year old male Malamute to the 3 year old Husky
>male, both were intact.  We found that there was more blood shed when we
>interfered in their squabbles than if we kept out and let them settle
>their problems for themselves.  One thing is to make sure that you
>continue to treat the original dog the same and enforce the existing

Yes.  It is often much better to let them work it out.  A lot of time is
spent sending one another signals, and unless things really get out
of hand, it is best to leave them be.  Keep in mind that while it may
sound and look bad, it is not really a "fight" in the true sense of
the word.  All of that growling and grabbing of the neck is actually
communications (the grabbee is being told that it is submissive).  
Actual fights are pretty obvious (there is lots of blood and fur).

[good stuff deleted]

>BTW, we noticed with our dogs that if we did have to seperate them during
>a fight you have to talk to them in a calm voice and not hype them up
>more and very carefully put your hands between their faces they  would
>not risk biting us and broke up immediately.  Don't try this unless you
>have someone who can take you to the hospital though as their jaws are
>very strong and would do you a lot of damage if this failed.  We have

Well, I would not do this.  Dogs can be quite intent when they are
spoiling for a fight or are "communicating" with one another.  Putting
a hand between faces breaks the communication and the results can
be unpredictable.  While they will not bite you intentionally, they
probably won't even *see* you.

>
>Good Luck
>Stacey Curtis

One thing that should be recomended is to feed your dogs seperately.
Nasty fights can break out over food.

I have two Sibs and one Mal, all of which are together all of the time (except
at feeding time!).  Every once in a while a scrap will develop over a favorite toy 
or something, but nothing serious at all.  Once the pack heirarchy was worked out, 
there is just some occasional grumbling and that is it.  Just as one would
expect in any family.


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From: dnoll@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: dogs and fire
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:22:50 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA


I am in the process of upgrading the smoke detectors in my house.
This made me wonder what my dogs would do if there was a fire in 
house.  Obviously, if we were home, we'd be sure to get them out.
But what if there was a fire while we were not at home?

Eventually we hope to have a dog door and would be able to teach
them to go out when they hear the smoke detectors.  But until then,
what?  If the house was on fire, would they "think" to jump out of
a window, or would they die and break my heart?  

I can't teach them to jump out of our windows when they hear the 
alarm because all of our windows are too high and they'd be injured.
But in the even of a real fire, I'd rather see them with broken legs
than not see them at all!

Anybody know what a dog would do?

  --diana
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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: LIFE magazine and Puppy Mills
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:56:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.171458.29530@col.hp.com> lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:
>tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>> The best "petstore" I've seen with respect to this is one that has all
>> those petitions, etc, and NO animals.  Instead, she had a whole
>> bulletin board full of local breeder listings & descriptions.  She
>> also had some good material on how to select a breeder.  Now, *thats*
>> the kind of petstore I like to support.
>> 
>
>"Petsmart" is a national chain with the policy of not selling puppies
>and kittens. They periodically sponsor "adopt-a-pet days" where, I
>believe, Humane Society employees bring some dogs & cats to the 
>Petsmart and you can adopt them there.  I think this is a nice idea and
>a good policy.
>
>Disclaimer: I'm not associated with Petsmart in any way, except that my dog
>is having her nails clipped there today.
>
>-- 
>Laura Johnson
>lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
>Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.

The "Petsmart" in Albuquerque often has a group of people with retired
racing Greyhounds for people to see.  They hand out literature to
interested parties, and the dogs they have are wonderful.  It is quite
nice, and I am very glad that Petsmart does this.

Same disclaimer as above.



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OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
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From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Subject: Re: Request for show info/experiences
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:58:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.132828.17507@iti.org>, jag@iti.org (Jacqueline A. Giles) writes:
|> A hypothetical, yet very possible situation/question to complicate
|> things even further:
|> 
|> WB goes BOS and picks up more points by beating special bitches.
|> WD goes BOW.  Does WD pick up the extra points that WB picked up ,
|> or does only the class points count ?
|> 
|> 
Yes in this case WD would get the same number of points earned by WB
for BOS as WD beat WB.

          -katyi
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From: terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: convincing people to go to responsible breeders
Date: 20 Aug 1992 17:32:11 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ralph.eece.ksu.edu

bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt) writes:

>In the time I've been reading this, I've come to agree with everything
>that is said about where to get a dog from.  I can see a problem with all
>of this, though, because of something that I read several years ago and
>that I know still goes on.

>In her book "Every Night, Josephine", Jaqueline Susann talks about trying
>to get a poodle puppy after she had finally been converted to the idea
>of owning a dog.  She got lists of people to buy from, from friends who
>bought from them.  She called every last one, wanting to see a silver
>miniature male puppy.  Every last place, when hearing she wanted a pet
>instead of a show dog, hung up on her.  She ended up with Josephine, a
>black miniature that had been weaned early and was seriously ill from the
>day she arrived, buying her from a pet store.

This *is* a real problem.  In our kennel club, the leaders of the club
advise newcomers against buying from a pet store.  At the same time,
the ones that do breed usually only sell to their friends, and they
almost *never* sell a dog to a newcomer to the breed.  After all, they
want their puppy to have the best home possible, right?  There are
exceptions, and some breeders trust their instincts as well as looking
at the experience of the potential buyer, but these breeders are the
exceptions, not the rule.  Also, if you want a dog from a particular
breeder, you will usually have to wait a minimum of 6 months to wait
for a litter with puppies available.  Lots of buyers don't want to
wait 6 weeks, and would not even consider a 6 - 18 month wait.  Where
do they go for a pup?  

What is the solution?  Should breeders be encouraged to sell to
newcomers who might not do as well with their dogs as the old-timer
who wants to train and show the puppy?  What about the buyer who the
breeder does not feel should own a dog of this particular breed?
Where does he get one?  How will he learn if there is no breeder
helping him along the way?  Since he is marginal anyway, he will
probably have far more than his share of problems with the puppy he
does end up purchasing.  

I know there are lots of hard questions here, but the problem is very
real and the solutions are not easy from my viewpoint anyway. 

--
Terry Hull  -  terry@eece.ksu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Kansas State University
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Mastiff rescue clubs?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <MeYdxbq00WBKA4_1Uv@andrew.cmu.edu>, Lorraine Blasik writes:
>Can someone out there please post the telephone # for the club, I'm in
>the Pittsburgh, PA area.  I lost the original post.

jim hoobin 508-399-7315
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From: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Introducing a new baby to the dog
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:50:18 GMT
Reply-To: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Aug19.153402.27435@src.honeywell.com> jgelhaus@src.honeywell.com (Jennifer Gelhaus) writes:
>
>We have an 11mo old Brittany and are expecting our first baby 
>in November :-).....

Well, I can give you some advice, but it is not specific to a Brittany.

Two years ago, we had our first child. At the time, our Lab (family dog only)
was 1.5 years old. She was still very puppyish at the time, easily exciteable tosay the least. Our worries were twofold: acceptance of the infant as a member of
the family and not getting the baby trounced on by an 85 lb. beastie. At this 
age, we hadn't completely broken the dog's tendency to jump up while greeting
us and visitors. I should mention we adopted her from the SPCA at 4 months.

Anyway, after the nursery was prepared, we spent time in the room with the dog.
We let her get used to all the new smells that an infant brings into the house.
This includes blankets, diapers, bottles, formula, and anything else you can 
think of, then establish that these items are off limits for chewing. For us,
this was relativley easy, hope you have luck here.

IN addition, on the day we brought home the baby, I let my wife walk in the 
door first with a present for the dog (new rawhide bone). She made sure to
give the dog plenty of praise and attention after being gone for 3 days. 

I introduced the baby to the dog slowly since I tend to be her master.
I let her smell the infant while in a sit position, and the dog accepted
her quite readily it seemed. Now, I am not a breeder, nor trainer. I did
complete an obedience class with her and have read a couple of Lab books.
These ideas just seemed to make sense.

Now my daughter is 2 years old, and can get the dog to obey SIT and DOWN
commands. They are great friends. Hope you have as much success as me.

-Brian
 


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From: hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner)
Subject: Re: Crate training question...
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:06:14 GMT



Our Keeshond (2 yrs) has an airline crate like the one described.  It has a
large raised circle in the middle.  We bought a rubber coated iron grid for the
floor and then we put a folded queen size quilt in there for comfort.  He loves
his quilt, and when he gets too warm, he pushes it aside and lays on the grid
so there is more air circulation.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (donald.e.church)
Subject: Crufts Dog Show
Keywords: Date of Crufts Dog Show
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:02:59 GMT

DOES ANYONE KNOW EXACT DATES FOR CRUFTS???

I am planning on going to Crufts this year and need to
know the dates EXACT dates for the show. 

I have tentative dates of Jan 13 - 16 and would like a
confirmation on them BEFORE I make my reservations!

Any help would greatly appreciated!!

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From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: looking for new dog suggestions
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:02:11 GMT


In article <16840DB68.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
==>  
==> From my encycopidiea at home (as non-sporting, non-working).  I make
==> no claims as to it's accuracy.
==>  
==> Chow-Chow
==> Boston Terrier
==> Bull Dog
==> Dalmation
==> Lhasa Apso
==>  
lhasa apsos were inside watch dogs.  they have extremely
sharp hearing and would bark at strange noises, thus
alerting the human guards who would deal with any intruders.
for this reason, the conformance standard specifies a slightly
aloof temperament vis a vis strangers.

DISCLAIMER: not that all lhasas are this way.  my lhasa loves everyone,
including strangers, almost to the point of disloyalty!  her
parents were quite friendly, and i made a point of socializing
her with all sorts of humans and animals.

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From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: LIFE magazine and Puppy Mills
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:56:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.141907.6484@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king) writes:
>So I asked to see the places of origin of their puppies.  EVERY SINGLE
>PUPPY came from Missouri, Kansas, or South Dakota.  I don't know about
>South Dakota, but I know that Missouri and Kansas have always been hotbeds
>of puppy mills.  

I know of a least three puppy mills in South Dakota that have been closed 
down  (at least temporaraly) in the past year.  I hope this is a sign that
things are getting better (we are more concerned about stopping this kind
of thing), but I'm afraid it just means that these cases were so bad that
they couldn't be ignored any more.  
--

Since moral has not improved, the beatings will continue.

cldavies@silver.sdsmt.edu        cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: joker@triton.unm.edu (The Evil Tou-Fu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Training Golden Retreiver Puppy
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:48:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	Hello, I have a golden retreiver puppy who is going to be 6 month
tomorrow, I have been following this group for a while and having heard
those wonderful stories about dog tricks and what other people have taught
their dogs to do has made me a bit jealous. :-)

	I have some questions about training my puppy, she is a very active
dog, she likes to run around and meet strangers if she is off the leash, so
I have to put a leash on her when going to parks and playing with her, 
because she is active, a lot of times she will just ignore my commands such
as sit or come. How do I properly train her? Will goldens settle down as
they get older? If so how old?

	I have been playing fetch with her with a tennis ball, she will get
it sometimes, but other times she will sniff it and ignore it, how do I
trainer her to properly retrieve?

					Thanks for your time.
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From: barb@golfcart.Corp.Sun.COM (Barbara Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Scaredy cat dog
Date: 12 Aug 1992 22:38:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: golfcart.corp.sun.com

Gretchen,

Looking down from two flights up, especially if the stairs are outside, could
be frightening.  You must have gotten Spenser up to the apartment somehow so
if you can take him down the same way then go into the backyard and work on
the steps FROM THE BOTTOM UP a few at a time he might find them easier to get
used to.  With my dogs, starting from a position of comfort and working from
there usually works best.

Good luck,
Barbara

>In article 1@opal.tufts.edu, gbelli@opal.tufts.edu () writes:
> My beagle and I just moved to a new apartment.  It has a fenced in back yard,
> which was one of the deciding factors for taking the apartment.  I had visions
> of Spenser scampering down the stairs (2 flights), doing his business, and 
> coming back upstairs.  The fly in the ointment--he's afraid to go down the 
> stairs.  He wants to (the yard looks mighty appealing to him), but I think
> the steepness of the stairs frightens him.  Does anyone have any suggestions
> as to how I can get him to go down the stairs?  I don't want to traumatize 
> him,  but we'd both enjoy it if he could use the yard.  Thanks for your 
> suggestions.
> Gretchen Belli
> 
> PS  He's too heavy for me to carry.




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From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Request for show info/experiences
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:08:21 GMT

In article <2A92BDCD.11353@ics.uci.edu>, tittle@ics.uci.edu 
(Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>A "major" is 3, 4 or 5 points.  The number of points at a particular
>show is dependent on the number of same-sex-same-breed dogs the dog
>competes against.  The number itself is dependent on the popularity of
>the breed.  As an example (the numbers are ball-park, but not way
>off), a female labrador needs to win best of breed or best of opposite
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>against at least 95 other female labradors to get a 5-point major.  A
			   ^^^^^^
>female bloodhound, on the other hand, need only beat 8 other female
>bloodhounds.  This is due to the greater number of labradors competing
>in show.

Um, if she beat 95 bitches for Winners Bitch, she'd get the 5 point
major. However, if in the same show only 10 dogs were entered (what's
that, like 1 point?) and then Winners Dog took Best of Winners over
Winners Bitch, he would then be entitled to a 5 point major too (since
he beat the bitch who beat 95 others therefore it can be said he
beat 96 labs is the logic I believe). She wouldn't have to win
Best of Breed to get the points since she'd already have them
from the bitch classes (typically where you get the points, since
BOB is usually just WD, WB and a bunch of specials - usually fewer
dogs in the BOB class).


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