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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jun's Electronics
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:13:16 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

obrien@Aero.org (Michael O'Brien) writes:

>I'm writing this letter in response to a posted article by Axel on
>November 12, 1992 regarding the purchase of a AEA-FAX serial number 1135
>from Jun's Electronics.  The aforementioned merchandise was purchased along
>with a Sangean ATS-803A receiver on October 10, 1992.  On October 12, 1992
>the ATS-803A receiver was returned and a full refund was issued (no
>questions asked), in accordance with our return policy.  On November 11, 1992
>(30 days later) the AEA software package was purchased back from Axel
>as USED equipment to be resold as Used.  We regret that Axel feels he was
>mistreated but equipment that has been out of the store for 30 days can not
>resold as new thus the reduced price of $54.00.  We at Jun's pride
>ourselves on our excellent customer relations and service to ham operators
>around the world and hope that in the future Axel will give us the
>opportunity to make him, a satisfied customer too.

>						Raul
>						Jun's Electronics

I support the retailer on this one.  Axel claimed to have returned
the software 10 days after purchase, but clearly it was 30 days.

I applaud any retailer that is willing to accept software back
at all, considering that it can be copied.   By law in California, 
they are only required to give refunds within 3 days.  If they 
were willing to give a partial refund after 30 days, then they are 
really doing something nice for the customer.  I consider
the service that Axel received to be excellent.  When Axel
called Jun's "crooks", he was way out of line.


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From: oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: famous hams
Keywords: or infamous
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:22:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) claims:


>>The late Herbert Hoover, Jr., K6ZH, former pres. of ARRL.

Gad - and all this time we thought that K6ZH was Jim Price, who 
often posts to this newsgroup.   Fess up, Jim!


Derek "formerly Alexander the Great" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) 

Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 
oo7@emx.utexas.edu
From: garnet@borland.com (Garnet Chaney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: amateur radio/law in KY
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:31:45 GMT
Organization: Borland International
Originator: garnet@genghis.borland.com

In article <01GR8KMW0X4M003V1O@EKU.BITNET> STUMTGRY%EKU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (if i were a sports star i'd have a girlfriend) writes:
>well i agree with everybody who says the law is confusing but arent most of
>them anyway i for one know that if you have a transceiver or transmitter
>type radio that it is illegal to carry it around until you get licensed
>and if a police officer catches you with one and knows you arent licensed
>then they can confiscate it and possibly arrest you i know this from first
>hand experience [had run in about this topic with one of the campus police
>here]
>
>well dont know if i ckarified anything or made even more misty but i tried
>to clarify it as bnast as i can
>
>marty

Marty, 

I'm sorry to hear the campus police gave you trouble, especially because they
were entirely wrong. Owning a car, even if you dont have a drivers license,
is not illegal. Using it is. Same with a transmitter. If you notice the 
Radio Shack ads, they say that FCC license is required to operate the 
equipment as a transmitter. Most ham radio stores have the microphones
disconnected from the radios so that you can't illegally operate their
equipment and get them in trouble with unlawful transmissions. But I have
yet to see any store that gets upset if you use the radio for listening.   

Have you taken the test to become licensed? If you could show them your
certificate of completion, I'm sure they wouldn't have bothered you. If not,
why have a transmitter? A reciever only unit, i.e. scanner, would probably
be cheaper.  

- Garnet
KC6YKE
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Digital modes with EME
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:41:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: ke4zv.1992Nov22.144129.4960
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <9211210813.aa21947@ingate.microsoft.COM> a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) writes:
>Reading some of the previous Morse messages (the comments was like "you
>will end up using morse for EME, auroura, weak signal, etc" at > 30MHz
>-- which is a reasonable point, especially for aurora (how much doppler
>do you get off aurora? I can work that one out when I get home!)) I
>suddenly wondered "has anybody used other digital modes for EME. I have
>heard of people using SSB (but I have no references). And modes like
>Amtor witll work down to -10dB S/N.
>
>Has anyone done this? What are the problems peculiar to this? Do you
>get pulse spreading due to the curvature of the moon that would cause
>problems? could you deconvolute this if it were a problem? What
>about periodicity of fading (due to Farady rotation, for example)?

The big problem is libration fading. This is caused by the multipath
effect of the signal being reflected by the whole Moon. At 1296 that
gives "pings" at about 10 Hz. 

Gary KE4ZV
From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:37:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <1992Nov10.230522.11281@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) writes:
|> 
|> One argument in favor of the CW requirement is that it's much, much easier to
|> build a machine that interprets CW than one that recognizes speech.
|> 
Paul,
   How does building a machine to copy CW equate to requiring an applicant
to copy it by hand??  The ability of machines to do this is further proof 
that the requirement is obsolete.  And before anyone jumps in here with the 
old argument that they can copy better than a machine, there were results of
a test done years ago by some people very well known in amateur circles who
used some early DSP to copy moonbounce signals that were only detectable by
the decrease in the noise floor when the carrier was on.  Try copying that by
ear.

|> Consider, for example, a microsat with a (non-packet) store - and - forward
|> capability.  It makes far more sense from a signal processing and storage
|> standpoint to use CW than speech, since the stored representation is more 
|> compact, and commands are easier to interpret.  Such a satellite in LEO would
|> be able to process multiple conversations simultaneously, with very minimal
|> ground stations (A SanTec 2m SSB handheld would suffice).

As I said, that, if anything, is even more reason to abandon the concept of
doing it by hand.  Hand sent code is harder for a machine to copy and with
well formed characters (as those sent by machine) the machine will copy it a
lot better than your ear.

bill   KB3YV

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From: jbs@ee.egr.duke.edu (Joe B. Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Scanners Law in Ky.
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:06:08 GMT
Organization: Duke University EE Dept.; Durham, NC

In article <9211131834.AA16557@ucsd.edu> WRIGHT@morekypr.UCSD.EDU writes:
<The Kentucky Scanner Law Revised - section concerning Amateur Radio
<
<KRS:432.570
<Possession or use of radio capable of sending or receiving police messages
<restricted; penalty; enforcement
<
<4) Nothing contained in this section shall prohibit the possession
<   of a radio by:
<
<   a) An individual who is a retailer or wholesaler...ect
<
<   b) A commercial or education radio or television station, licensed by
<      the F.C.C.
<
<-->c) An individual who posses such a radio, provided it is capable of
<      receiving radio transmissions only and is not capable of sending or
<      transmitting radio messages, at his place of residence; licensed
<      commercial auto towing trucks; newspaper reporters and photographers;
<      disaster and emergency services personnel authorized in writing by
<      the state director of disaster and emergency service (for state personnel)
<      or the chief executive of the city or county (for their respective
<      personnel); a person holding a valid license issued by the F.C.C.
<      in the amateur radio service;...
<
<This is the new scanner law provision that includes us Amateurs.  I have
<discussed this section with some local attorneys and they feel the way
<I do about this new section:  The law lets us have a scanning radio in our
<vehicles but that radio better not be able to transmit no matter what the
<frequency is being used.  If you don't get this message try re-reading
<the first 3 lines in section "C".  No matter if one is using the local
<repeater, if that radio can scan it better not be able to transmit.

I don't follow your reasoning.  The first three lines are a separate case
from licensed radio amateurs, and from licensed commercial auto towing
trucks, etc.  Looks to me as if this is intended to be read as

<4) Nothing contained in this section shall prohibit the possession
<   of a radio by:
...

<     ...a person holding a valid license issued by the F.C.C.
<      in the amateur radio service;...

Go back and see where the semicolons are in that paragraph, and let me know
if I'm missing something obvious here.


-joe
-- 
                You spend the night
            Like you were spending a dime

                   - Lyle Lovett

X-Spook-Fodder: CIA NSA FBI SBI Bush overthrow uprise assasinate anarchy
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: forozco@nmsu.edu (OROZCO)
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS-450S/AT w/filters/options
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:48:19 GMT

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: keith@hydra.unm.edu ()
Subject: Code practice on Compact Disk?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:04:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

God I hope this isn't in a FAQ somewhere; I would hate to go down in
flames on my very first posting to this group! here goes...

All I have seen in (CQ,73,etc.) is cassettes of code practice.  I am
still studying for my first test, but would like to test up to at least
General as quickly as possible.  I have a personal bias against cassette
tapes (think they wear out too quickly under repeated use, too easily
eaten by machines, and many other prejudices which are, admittedly, more
my problem than those of the tapes, but NEVERTHELESS-
are there any CDs out there with code on them?  Hopefully up to 20+ wpm
would be nice.

-thanks!  -keith smith, practitioner of short signatures
keith@hydra.unm.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Subject: How to select band?
Reply-To: hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:33:50 GMT

Good day, OM's and YL's,

A question:  How can one determine the optimum band for a QSO for a certain
	distance and weather condition?  For instance, if I want to QSO 
	Florida, California, Europe, and South Africa, which band is best 
	for which?  How can the band be determined?

Tnx fer the time es 73,
--
Harry Xu (KB2LHA)	"Hell has no terrors for pagans."  --Arthur Rimbaud
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pulse@meaddata.com (Tom Hesley)
Subject: Looking for 10 to 15 element quad antenna plans for 2-meters
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:49:22 GMT

I'd like to build such a beast and wondered if anybody could suggest
a book on quad design, or provide plans for existing designs.

Thanks in advance for the help.


--
Tom Hesley  N8UBU/AE      Opinions expressed within             (513) 865-7053
Mead Data Central            are my own and not            Systems Development
P.O. Box 933                necessarily those of            pulse@meaddata.com
Dayton, Ohio   45401         Mead Data Central        ...!uunet!meaddata!pulse
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger)
Subject: Re: Code practice on Compact Disk?
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Motorola
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:42:31 GMT

In article <1pmqxw_@lynx.unm.edu>, keith@hydra.unm.edu () wrote:
> 

> are there any CDs out there with code on them?  Hopefully up to 20+ wpm
> would be nice.

I too think this is an great and obvious idea and have asked the ARRL to
put all their tapes on one CD.  However, they have yet to respond...


* Chris Terwilliger, KB7PPT                rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                        "And now, the sequence of events, *
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris)
Subject: Looking for Larry Baker, ex WB6PHU, maybe in UT.
Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:00:19 GMT

The subject line pretty much says it all - a friend of mine is
trying to locate an old friend.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bill@ssr.hp.com (Bill Chidester)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:42:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Orlando Fl.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Bill Gunshannon (bill@cs.uofs.edu) wrote:
: A)  Marlon Brando is not his legal name.
: B)  His island retreat is Tahiti where he spent a lot of time filming
:     Mutiny on the Bounty.

   Which leads us to yet another (semi) famous ham.  How about Tom
   Christian, VR6TC?  He's the great (great-great ??) grandson of 
   Fletcher Christian, from the original Bounty mutineers.  He lives
   on Pitcarin Island, although I haven't worked him for 20 years.

   We talked several times on 15 Meters, we were soul-mates.  He had
   an HT-37 and I had an HT-32 (the "don't drop one on your foot" Halli-
   crafters SSB transmitters).  They only ran the island generator for
   part of the day, so he when he shut down the shack, he shut down the
   shack...

   Maybe he got MB started.

------------------------
Bill Chidester   KE4WS
bill@c3177208.ssr.hp.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Capacitor Question
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:58:48 GMT

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.000022.6292@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>>Is there any functional difference between capacitors rated at
>>different working voltages other than their breakdown voltages?
>>I'm putting a kit together and am having trouble finding the specified
>>cpacitor values in 16wv. The caps are easily found in 50wv ratings.

>For aluminum electrolytics the answer is yes, there is a functional
>difference. If a voltage far below the rated voltage is applied, the
>insulating oxide layer won't completely form and the value of the
>capacitor will be drastically reduced from it's marked value. For
>other types of capacitors, using a capacitor below it's rated voltage
>is not a problem.

Thanks. The caps  in question are in fact aluminum electrolytics.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
GE knew there was lots of money to be made in the diagnostic medical
machine field since it was only a matter of time before people started
getting sick from the effects of all of GE's toxic and radioactive
waste dumping. I expect GE to get into the Mortuary business next.
From: dale@sequent.com (Dale Mosby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vertical comparison
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:36:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov18.233611.28006
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

Ken (K8ZR) asked about vertical antennas, specifically comparision
of the Cushcraft R5/R7 and HF-6V.  [Ken, I tried a couple direct
replies but mail bounced.  If you e-mail me a good mail path I'll
send SWR measurements and some other info on the R7 from a previous
posting.]

I haven't used any other verticals so can't give you exactly
the comparison you requested.  I can give another comparison though.
I have the R7 and recently put up a Cushcraft A3S tri-bander.
The R7 is mounted on 17 feet of mast, bracketed to a small
garden shed.  It works reasonably well, I'm happy with it.  The
tri-band beam is on 53 feet of tower.  Received signals are typically
3 to 4 S-units stronger on the beam (as mesured by my Kenwood TS-430S).
Signal reports back to me also have about the same improvement.
I find that with weak stations the beam has let me make some contacts
that I probably wouldn't suffer through with the vertical.  But for
reasonably strong stations the vertical does quite well, especially
if I'm willing to run a small amp and put 400 or so watts into it.

73, Dale.

-- 
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  15450 SW Koll Parkway             // Beaverton, Or.  97006-6063
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Novex/Yaesu Charger Mod?
From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:40:15 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

feit@ERA.COM (Mark Feit) writes:

> Has anyone got a schematic for the Novex BC-20 charger (the Yaesu
> clone)?  As it's shipped from the factory, it goes straight into the
> charge cycle when there's a battery in it and power is applied.  My

Power it through a manually tripped self keeping relay.  That way if the 
power drops, it will keep the charger off when the power comes back on.


Wire the relay to power through one of the closed-when-energized 
contacts, and connect the NO switch in parallel with the contact.  Use 
the other relay contact to power the charger.

Also, if you have a DPDT relay, you can wire a light thru one of the 
closed-when-de-energized contacts to let you know if you lost power.

I use a similar arrangement with my computer, except I added a one minute 
timer to bring the BBS back up after a power failure, but won't energize 
if the power flickers on.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gregs@slcsrv.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: 220 vs 440 question...
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:44:52 GMT

Hi --
I am new to being a Ham as well as this newsgroup, but I do have a question.

I have been a American Red Cross disaster services volunteer for about 5
years, and after witnessing how invaluable hams were whenever I did anything
on a larger scale, I finally decided to get licensed.  I passed my tech
no-code test a week ago, and I'm figuring on getting a handheld for mobility's
sake and for repeater use in my area.  they seem to be very popular among
Red Cross hams that I know.  So I know I am getting something on 2m, however
I am curious about the use of the 220 MHz and 440Mhz bands as I am considering
getting a twin-band handheld.  Most hams I know don't seem to have a real
preference either way, and the Red Cross seems to be interested mainly in
2m, so I am curious if anyone has any personal comments or preferences
regarding the 220 or 440 bands.

I know of only one handheld currently that is a twin 2m/220 and that most are
2m/440, but I've been told 220 is good if you plan to travel across the country.
Please post your comments/suggestions here or e-mail me directly.

Thanks...
greg (to be KD6Q??)
gregs@slc.slac.stanford.edu
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Paddle usage
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:01:48 GMT
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com's message of 20 Nov 92 20:22:37 GMT


   In rec.radio.amateur.misc, seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman) writes:

   >I'm curious if right-handed hams always use their right hands when
   >using a paddle, or if some of you prefer your left (perhaps to free up
   >your right to write).  Lefties please reverse all of that (what's
   >right is what's left when you've done everything wrong).

   >Is it standard usage for the "dit" to be made with the thumb, or do
   >I have that backward?

   >Any ambidextrous paddlers out there?  Do you reverse the paddle
   >(dit/dah-wise) when switching hands?

   >When sending a "C", for instance, do you hit each paddle twice, or
   >do you hit each once and hold 'em?

   >So many questions...

Gee... That sounds a lot like me when I was at that stage of the 
hobby.  Let me share a little of what I learned from the net.elmers

There is NO "standard" way of wiring or using paddles.

Most right handed people use their right hand to operate the paddles
though a very large minority use their left hand.

Most operators prefer to send the dits with the finger and dashes 
with the thumb though the minority faction is large here as well.

I am quite right handed but prefer to use my left hand for keying
and operating the controls.  I reason that this will keep my right
hand free for writing, reaching, etc.

I send dits with my left index finger, dashes with the left thumb.

To form a "C", you press the dash, press the dit, release the dit and
dash.

Congratulations and good luck.


--
-val-

Val Breault - GM Research - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF            \      /|
Instrumentation dept., 30500 Mound Rd., Warren, MI 48090-9055    \    / |
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those of GMR or those of the General Motors Corporation.           \/   |___
From: pwang@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Paul K.C. Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Unknown Prefix
Date: 16 Nov 92 07:53:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

During the recent CQWW DX contest, I worked the following stations
  S51DB, S59DBC, S52AA, S58AB, S51MA, S59DRM and S57DX.
Could anyone tell me what is the DXCC country corresponding to these
stations? All I know is that they are in Zone 15.
 Many thanks.
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do antennas work Was: Linear Loading of antennas
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:23:27 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Try to get hold of the Nov 1992 copy of QST. There is a very good 
article on how antennas "really" work.

The answer to you question though is the current flows back and forth, 
reflecting off the end of the antenna element. In doing this electrons 
are accelerated and a electromagnetic field is generated an "cast off" 
from the antenna.

If you have problems with this think of a rope tied to a fence at one 
end, with you holding the othert end. Now snap you hand down. A plus 
trvels along the rope, hits the fixed point attached to the fence and 
is refelected (inverted) back to your hand eventually jerking your 
hand. The displacement of the rope is analogous to the current in an antenna.

See the QST for a more lucid explaination.

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
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