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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Subject: Re: March Afternoon
To: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:23:12 +1100 
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s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto) writes:
 >        Yeah, here in Japan, Afternoon March edition is out; Compiler
 >0X starts out again this month.... but it ain't something worth
 >reading.... Ah! My Goddess has been bland for the past couple of months:
 >It's still sorta boring... The real killer in this month's edition is by
 >no means Kiseiju.... But let Iain spoil the whole story, just for the
 >sake of it...

The whole story?  I don't even know the whole story.  My pathetic Japanese
skills have long since failed to cope with my rapidly increasing manga
intake. :-)

I agree on 0X and AMG.  Asamiya is trying to do something different, but
it seems too forced.  The result is a bit of a mess, IMHO.

AMG's color pages improve noticeably each time they appear, but I
think that's the only recent improvement.  Now AMG is doing the tired
old gender-change cliches, with K1 being dressed in pretty clothes,
being pursued by men, being naked in comedic places, etc.  Although we
we do get to see Troubadour, Urd's old flame.

Kiseiju has a damn awesome fight this month.  I won't even try to
describe it. :-)

(quick question.. in the last chapter of vol.5, what did the teacher do
to pacify her kid?)
 
Now, some superficial observations, since I haven't had time to read
Aft. #3 in much detail.

The cover is the first one without demons, robots or aliens in recent
memory.  The little ring around the price tag continues to spawn computer
graphics appendages.

The title page for Kishiwada ("viva America! viva science!" fueheh)
looks like it's satirising something, but I don't know what...   Magical
Super Asia got another order of magnitude weirder...  filming began
in Jigoku no Ie, with Reiko asking for some extroadinary .. performances.

There is a new color manga from Spain (?), Po+Go, which makes very nice
use of the color pages, like it's supposed to.  Frankly, I'd never have
expected to see something so Western underground-ish in a manga mag., but
I think it fits in well.

There's not much to say about Kakinouchi Narumi's new one, without actually
reading it, except that it looks pretty good.

This month's short stories seemed a bit insipid to me, but I haven't read
them properly yet.


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 Disclaimer:  if this sounds like "the final word", it's purely accidental.
 I actually enjoy reading followups and getting email, really. :-)  
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From: rim@cs.columbia.edu (Howard Rim)
Subject: Ariel Visual 10
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:29:34 GMT

In Ariel Visual 10, Ariel is given an outer shell that makes 
 her look like an invading monster/trooper.  At the critical 
 moment Dr Kishida gives the command "Ariel Reveal and Roll out!"
 and the shell splits open in half with Ariel poping out.

Hm, I wonder what this is parodying.

When you become a Christian you can't have fun
 is one of Satan's lies.
From: gregoryf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: rumic world
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 21:51:04 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Outside of the few adaptations down by viz, is there any way to get ahold 
of takahashi's Rumic World collection?  any help on this subject would be 
usefull.

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From: Chris.Miller@f1369.n203.z1.sac.ca.us (Chris Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: ADVANCED COMICS listings for March 1993
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:14:05 GMT



I know that I'm responding to an old message, but I just made a Bay Area
shopping trip last Saturday, and I had to comment on these prices:

EK>  PORCO ROSSO FILM COMIC #1      $29.95
EK>  PORCO ROSSO FILM COMIC #2      $19.95
EK>  PORCO ROSSO FILM COMIC #3      $19.95
EK>  PORCO ROSSO FILM COMIC #4      $19.95

My comment:  I saw these at Nikaku being sold in sets of the four for $34.50. 
Isn't that a bit of a price difference there?  The books were $7.95 each at
the SF Kinokuniya.

BTW, I'm only posting this here due to the fact that I read this article long
ago in rec.arts.anime, and have just gotten back to reading r.a.m .

... Proud contributor to the American trade deficit!!!
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Silent Mobius Chapt 5 --> Huh?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:13:40 GMT

In article <1jo246INN3hs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:
>
>I'm not exactly sure what Asamiya was thinking of as far as time
>continuity in the story.  The Luciferhawk trashes up the AMP office
>while Katsumi is at the monument.  Rally decides to nuke the youma,
>and in that span of time Katsumi goes home, showers, dresses up,
>does her hair, speeds over to the station and joins the gang...
>boy, Rally REALLY takes her time taking off her jacket!  :)
>
>Well, awkward continuity aside, my main question was...why the hell
>did Katsumi decide to dress up for the fight?  Was Asamiya trying
>to be cute here?  After all, she had undress and get back into uniform
>later anyways!  Jeez, she even redid her hair!
>

Because, if they ever need more stories for the next next next Silnet
Mobius movie, they can put another Katsumi shower scene in it. ^o^


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From: carraghe@cs.ucsd.edu (Robert Carragher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Sazan Eyes v13 (difficulty in finding it)
Summary: Is it reasonable to hope to find Sazan Eyes v13?
Keywords: sazan eyes, original volume, locating, ordering
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:46:35 GMT

Ok, here's a question for Sazan Eyes fans:  how hard is it
to locate or order volume 13 (the last one).  While in Tokyo,
I managed to pick up 1-12 fairly easily, but looked every-
where (fruitlessly) for #13.  Is it out of print?  Do the
collectors hoard it because it has some fantastic revelation?
If I went to Books Kinokuniya to order it, would they laugh
at my face?

By the way, I had a devil of a time finding KOR #18 too.
I finally located it in a used bookstore.  I understand
the difficulty in that case, though, since there was the
new compilation coming out.  (By the way, does that set
include some of the things left out in the first compilation?
Or is it just a hard-cover copy of the first set?)

			Bob Carragher
From: dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dickinson Lo)
Subject: Jademan comics titles...weird
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:34:20 GMT

I don't know if this is considered manga, but anyways, I've noticed
that two of the Jademan titles(Blood Sword and Oriental Heros)seem to
have the title mistranslated.  I can read chinese, and the english
names just don't match(unlike the rest which does, these are the only
two).  First of all, the verbatim translation to Oriental Heros's
chinese title is"Gate of Tiger and Dragon", while Blood Sword
translateds to...youguessed it, "Oriental Heros" !  Did they switch
the english titles or something?  Has this ever been asked?

                      WOW!!!  An actual .sig file!
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NO!!!  That is *not* what the above Chinese characters mean!!!!!
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: March Afternoon
Date: 27 Jan 1993 07:51:12 GMT
Organization: studio 3x3 ..... maybe
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In article <1993Jan27.023022.13043@sfc.keio.ac.jp> s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto,79204584,12) writes:
>
>Yeah, the cover is "Tsuyoshi (Motto) Shikkari Shinasai" , which is a
>manga(previously in Morning) and an anime(They have it here in Japan).
>It is refreshening to have a story that does not go light years away
>from reality... I do hope "Tsuyoshi..." stays in Afternoon, since it
>is one of my favorite mangas... 
>

Well, Boku ha MUKO Yoshi is along that line too.  Does anyone actually
read that?  (Okay, so I browse through them, because some of my money goes
into that).  Come to think of it, quite a few titles in Afternoon were 
inherited from Morning Party (which stopped).  I have no problem with 
having to consolidate two magazines to boost sales, but Fujishima-sensei
was running two titles on both of them, and this corporate decision
killed Taiho Sichauzo, WHICH BUMMED ME OUT!!  (Taiho could have gone forever,
and had enough fan support to do so.)  It bummed me out even more everytime
I paid Asahiya for 2 lbs of manga, of which 1.5 I don't read, and look like
a total idiot/gaijin......  :-P

On count of 3, prepare your 1-finger-salute to Kodansha.  1....2....


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From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: All gone (was Re: Manga for sale, Update)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:24:42 -0800
Organization: sumax city 0093
Distribution: usa
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No more!  All gone!  Thank you for your attentions, packages will be sent
out as soon as possible (3 left).

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From: Steve.Lamb@f1369.n203.z1.sac.ca.us (Steve Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Viz's Ranma...
Date: 24 Jan 93 12:40:26 GMT

Matt,

Friday January 22 1993 21:01, Matt Pyson wrote to All:

 MP> they're doing Ranma as these 8-issue mini-series runs, they can just
keep

    I wish they'd not do that.  It gets "confusinf" to the average comic
reader who is used to their comics being in one sequence.  Personally, I think
they should do themselves a favor and keep going from this series.  With the
continuity of a monthly publication w/o worrying when the next series will
come out they can easily pick up a larger readership base and make more $$.

    Almost everyone I've spoken to at the comic shop I work at expressed at
least SOME interest in my copies of Ranma 1/2.  The two main problems where
the "mini-series" format and the fact my boss doesn't order any for the wall. 
:(


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From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
Subject: Re: Silent Mobius Chapt 5 --> Huh?
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:27:59 GMT

bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) asks:

>Well, awkward continuity aside, my main question was...why the hell
>did Katsumi decide to dress up for the fight?  Was Asamiya trying
>to be cute here?  After all, she had undress and get back into uniform
>later anyways!  Jeez, she even redid her hair!

Hmm, Katsumi-san always has seemed more interested in presentation
than the rest of the team.  Possibly this is because she is more
oriented around on-site ritual than the rest?  At least in the western
magical traditions, looking right and smelling right can be important.
Of course that doesn't explain why she changes back into her uniform.
Somehow your description sounds in character, if a bit extreme, so i
don't think Asamiya-san was just being qute.

R Mark Chilenskas
rmc@wang.com
From: bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Silent Mobius Chapt 5 --> Huh?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 04:06:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau)
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In a previous article, albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) says:

>Because, if they ever need more stories for the next next next Silnet
>Mobius movie, they can put another Katsumi shower scene in it. ^o^
>
WHAT?? And skip the Nami bath scene, the Lebia skinny dipping
scene, the Yuki shower scene, the Kiddy shower scene, and the
Rally hot tub scene!!!  :)

  -- Gil

Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
Subject: Re: Venus Wars II, any thoughts?
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:31:56 GMT

Venus Wars II came pretty close to being the first translated manga i
dropped part way through.  (Some i haven't even started on...)  The
end of Venus Wars I and the begining of II left me with a feeling that
i wasn't going to learn anything about the characters at all, and i
get bored pretty fast with fighting and conflict scenes.  But starting
issue 5, it seems that the political intrigue is more than just a
background, and maybe we will learn something about why people are
doing what they do after all.  So i'm still on board.

R Mark Chilenskas
rmc@wang.com
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: City Hunter
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:23:53 GMT
Organization: studio 3x3 ..... maybe
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <wai.728098066@mackinac.ecn.purdue.edu> wai@mackinac.ecn.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai) writes:

  [manga misnomering in Korea stuffs skipped.]

>
>	No, it's not a joke. I am serious. Trust me.
>

Yes I believe you.  Same tragedies occured in Taiwan as well, and it makes you
cringe even more if you know exactly what titles they're butchering.  Off my
head, I can tell you Umi no Yami, Tsuki no Kage was "appropriately" aliased
"Yami no Purple Eyes, II".  Cyber Blue, which was mercifully short, was called
Hokuto no Ken, II; and it's distant cousin Hana no Keiji was more creatively 
titled "Hokuto Warrior"......   yeah

Q: If Hagiwara Kazushi decides to do a new manga after Bastard!, what would 
be the corresponding new title in Chinese?



A: Asshole!

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:50:00 JST
From: vray@cs2.cs.oki.co.jp (Miho NISHIDA)
To: rec-arts-manga%darwin.sura.net@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Hey, look here. (I've read shohjo manga all my life)


>I'm wondering what Saitou Chiho's stuff is like, since I heard of
>"Saitou Chiho's Manga Academy" -- apparently a very comprehensive
>how-to-manga book.  (1990, Y780).  Worth getting?

I don't know about the "How to" book, but it looked pretty comprehensive
from the first 2 pages (They have a plastic cover on the rest.)
But Saitou Chiho's manga style is okay.  Only problem I have with
her is that she sells too much with sex (No no no.  Not outright
sex.  That's never done in shohjo manga;  but Saitou Chiho, along
with what's-her-name who did "Yami no Purple Eyes", relies heavily
on sexual tension stuff to sell.  Well, it sells.  <Have you read
some of the U.S. SF novels lately?>).  

> >Violence and action does not equal adult reading.
>
>Yes, but non-adult reading does not equal worthless reading. :-)

I agree.  I never meant that non-adult reading was not worth reading,
but that mangas with violence and action doesn't mean adult meaning.
I think you and I are saying the same thing, but saying it in 2
different ways.


Miho
From: rchan@terapin.com (Ronald Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Gun Smith Cats info
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:17:15 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <2B6408FE.21329@news.service.uci.edu>, eaeu103@orion.oac.uci.edu
(Joey) writes:
>Can anyone tell me who is the author, and what other works has he done?
>How many volumes of GSC is out?  Thanx in advance.  E-mail ok.
>
>--
>Rey Kanzaki
><eaeu103@orion.oac.uci.edu>
>

The author is Kenichi Sonada.
There are currently 2 volumes out.
If you are really desperate to read more, then you can read it in monthly Comic
Afternoon (Kodansha Publishing).

I believe he was also the character designer of Bubble Gum Crisis (I think).


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From: sherman@panix.com (Sherman Chan)
Subject: VIZ Subscriptions...
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:33:26 GMT

Has anyone with a VIZ subscription gotten their Ranma #7 yet?  The last
thing I got from those people was Ranma #6 and Battle Angel Alita #4.

Did they go out of business or something?  Hmm, I think it may be time to
write some letters and find out, but I was just wondering if anyone
else has gotten anything.

-Sherm

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: COBRA
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:34:09 GMT

In article <RATINOX.93Jan25142008@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu> ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu (Gone with the Lemming) writes:
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:56:44 GMT, ig65@vaxb.acs.unt.edu said:
>ig65> Does anyone know any thing about the series "Cobra" from Viz Comics?

12 issue run (48 pages ea. I think), $2.95 or $3.25 ea. (somewhere in
the middle they raised the price), translated the first story from the
manga about a treasure map, a trio of babes (natch - this is Terasawa
after all!), pirates, and a superweapon.

>And people wonder why I tend to avoid Viz titles.

Uhhh, because you think it's a silly name?  8^]
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From: genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario)
Subject: Re: How manga is done
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:18:05 GMT

In article <1k715eINNmfi@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> chunger@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chung-Mau Cheng) writes:
> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes
>
>> As for ink, can anyone suggest a good white ink to use.  So far,
>> all the ones I've tested are just too diluted to use.
>
>I use a brand called (I could be wrong, I have a horrible memory) 
>Rottin or something like that. It's not so thick as to completely
 ^^^^^^
Bet that would be Rotring, a German company that distributes their art and
drafting products all over the world.  They make the best black india ink
that I know of, and I like their Isograph tech pens.  I would bet that they
do have a very decent white ink.  Rotring is distributed in Australia, Tony,
just check out your local drafting and art materials supplier.

Later...Gene--
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: re: COBRA
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:37:05 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Too much.

--Akane
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:50:23 JST
From: vray@cs2.cs.oki.co.jp (Miho NISHIDA)
To: rec-arts-manga%darwin.sura.net@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Any one Know of PSME?

>: X by CLAMP
>
>Could you give a short synopsis on what this about?  I managed to pick up
>volume 2 which makes things a little difficult to follow [especially as my
>Japanese is nearly non-existant...]  I like the art work in this.  Mind you
>one of the scenes in vol 2 is nearly as gory as Peacock King!

I will be doing a weekly or biweekly manga report for the shohjo manga
area, and I will probably do one for X and RG VEDA.  (RG VEDA, I'll
probably repost an article I did for Atlantia, if I get their permission)

>: Banana Fish by Yoshida Akiyo
>
>I've got the first eight volumes of this... what the hell is this about??
>Please, please, please could you give me some clues on this? [anyone!]

Ash Lynx is fighting a mafia as the head of boy-gangs.  This is pretty
hard stuff and it's not at all a shohjo manga in the real sense.
The hero has one of the toughest history a shohjo manga hero could
have.  But since I don't own the mangas (my sister does, and she
doesn't live with me), I can't give you much details.

>: Hanasakeru SieSyounen by the same author as OZ, which was made into
>:  OAV recently
>
>Natsumi Itsuki [Surname first I think].  I've got vol 1, 2, & 4 of this
>manga.  I liked it so much that I ordered the anime on laserdisc which
>arrived this week!  I can follow a lot more in the manga now I've seen the
>anime [body language and emotive content in speech help a lot!].

OZ, is what you're talking about, right?  Only qualms I have with 
Itsuki Natsumi is that her characters resemble each other too much.
You have to distinguish them (I'm exaggerating, of course) by their
hair color.  Otherwise, I think her men are well drawn.

Miho aka Griff



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From: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Subject: Re: WOMAN IN THE MAN - info?
Reply-To: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Organization: Comspec Communications, Inc. - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:49:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.manga
Summary: Where is it running?...
Keywords: Katsura Masakazu
Disclaimer: Comspec Communications knows nothing of what I write.

michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

| The HK manga mag Family Comic just started a new manga called WOMAN IN
| THE MAN, which most obviously seems to be done by Katsura Masakazu.
| Does anyone know which japanese magazine it's serialised in, and if
| there are any compiled volumes available so far?

It's running in Shonen Jump - started in 5-6, this year.  So, no
compiled volumes yet, or for a while.
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