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From: diana@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (Diana Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: FTP site
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:45:05 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

Does anyone know how long the montana FTP site is going to be unaccessable to
anonymous entry?  I've been trying on and off over the past week and cannot
seem to get past the login.  SOme kind of maintainance thing, or so it says.
Makes getting Program Guides and gif files difficult.
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Kirk's Middle Name
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 16 OCT 92 14:37:29    

In article <9210160334.AA02166@cabell.vcu.edu>, bio1edr@cabell.vcu.edu (Erica D. Rodgers) writes...

>To those folks who posted followups to Kirk vs Picard and speculated
>on Kirks middle name:  It is a T and it stands for TIBERIUS!  If you
>recall from ST6, it was announced at his trial with the klingons.  It
>is NOT Ted, or Roy or any such thing.  It was mentioned in several
>episodes and the movies.

Ya know... I almost followed up to this article with another made up 
story about Kirk's middle name being Roy.  I was going to start "Yeah, 
like the Klingons are experts on the middle names of star ship captains
 - NOT!"  Then I was going to say that Kirk was named after Roy Rogers 
by his grandfather in Iowa who was a western movie fan.  I was even 
going to cite a made up book called "Every Day Without" by David Robers.

But I think all these freshmen have suffered enough.

JGH
From: sirney@controls.ccd.harris.com (Greg Sirney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worf in STVI:TUC
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:54:05 GMT
Organization: Harris Controls
Originator: sirney@rs2


In article <Bw25q9.o7@cosy.sbg.ac.at>, bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> I just read the quotes from STVI:TUC und hit on the name
|> of the klingon who defended Kirk & McCoy in the trial: Colonel WORF.
|> Now he can't possibly be the Worf of TNG. But then again ..??
|> I *think* I saw Michael Dorns name in the credits, but I'm not too sure
|> about that.
|> 
|> 
|> So, please tell me:  WHO IS THIS WORF-PERSON SUPPOSED


	Worf's grandfather (I believe the first reference to TNG by the TOS) 
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From: friedman@m.cs.uiuc.edu (if ($term == t9) echo -n 'GK(H. G. Friedman is signed on.)')
Subject: Re: Let's put this on a FAQL (Re: O'Brien's Rank)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:44:33 GMT

In all this chat about O'Brien's rank, there is one viewpoint that I have
not seen mentioned:  GR's assertion that there are NO enlisted ranks in
Star Fleet.  I believe this was mentioned in David Gerrold's 1973 book
"The World of Star Trek", but I won't swear to it.

I come down on the side of the viewpoint that "Chief" and "Transporter
Chief" are job titles.  Miles O'Brien is a Lt.  Somebody goofed whether
he is a full Lt. or a Junior Grade.

       		H. George Friedman, Jr.
       		Department of Computer Science
       		University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
       		1304 West Springfield Avenue
       		Urbana, Illinois  61801

       		friedman@cs.uiuc.edu

A keyboard -- how quaint!
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From: bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek)
Subject: Worf in STVI:TUC
Organization: University of Salzburg, Austria
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:39:45 GMT



I just read the quotes from STVI:TUC und hit on the name
of the klingon who defended Kirk & McCoy in the trial: Colonel WORF.
Now he can't possibly be the Worf of TNG. But then again ..??
I *think* I saw Michael Dorns name in the credits, but I'm not too sure
about that.


So, please tell me:  WHO IS THIS WORF-PERSON SUPPOSED TO BE ?


thanks in advance

     Brigitte

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From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: William T. Riker
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:06:29 GMT


According to Jon Frakes this past Saturday, his character is now
called  "William Thomas Riker".  Apparently, Gene told him to stop
telling people the T stood for Thelonious.  

Pity.  I thought that with his trombone playing and all that,
Thelonious was a great in-joke  (referring to jazz musician and
composer Thelonious Monk).

Andy

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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek cancelled... well, in SA
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:25:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: giraffe.g92n3258.42.718975558
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

Bad news for South Africans; no news for those out there, though you guys 
may find this as ridiculous as we do.

I've written to the SABC on numerous occassions (8, actually) and they have 
informed me that they have no intention of showing Star Trek on our screens 
again, at least of the series.

Of Star trek The Original Series, they wrote that it was too old.

Of Star Trek The Next Generation, they said, that it was not considered good 
family viewing.  I'm not sure whether it had to do with the head-blowing 
scene in "Conspiracy" or the sex scenes in "The Naked Now" (which they 
apparently cut substantially).

All in all, bad news for us Trekkers in this part of the world!

Ryan.
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From: mlj44080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Lee Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Ensign Ro - info please
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:20:25 GMT

If you look at the press release for  "Rascals" you will see that Ms. Forbes
is in it as our FAVORITE Ensign in the entire universe.  (probably the
episodes only redeeming feature)  

-- 
  "If the best things in life are free, then my current price is
   $37k with a 10% downpayment."

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: amdunn@mongrel.UUCP (Andrew M. Dunn)
Subject: Re: ro's gone??? (was re: new
Organization: A. Dunn Systems Corporation, Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:04:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.3244.3113@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes about Ensign Ro leaving TNG:
>Word is that SHE left.  She was offered to be switiched over to Deep
>Space Nine but she told Paramount that she wanted to pursue a film
>career.

According to the version of the story I heard this weekend at the Creation
ST Convention in Toronto, the actress wanted more money.  Paramount refused.
She left.

>
>A few months back, the joke was that Paramount said just two words:
>TASHA YAR.  And that kept Ro in.

I heard that she said two words.  "TED DANSON".   Referring to his
pay, which is more per episode than the whole TNG cast gets.

>
>Apparently not...  He character of Ro on DSN will be replaced by a new
>character name-wise but personality wise, it's the same old Ro...


Paramount scrambled to re-write the DS9 character, which, as you
say, is exactly like Ro.  The slides of the actress even look similar.

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From: zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell)
Subject: Re: Kirk's Middle Name -- now it CAN be told!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:02:48 GMT

tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>In article <9210160334.AA02166@cabell.vcu.edu>, bio1edr@cabell.vcu.edu (Erica D. Rodgers) writes:

>> To those folks who posted followups to Kirk vs Picard and speculated
>> on Kirks middle name:  It is a T and it stands for TIBERIUS!  If you
>> recall from ST6, it was announced at his trial with the klingons.  It
>> is NOT Ted, or Roy or any such thing.  It was mentioned in several
>> episodes and the movies.

>What do Klingons know?  James "T" Kirk always lied to them every change
>he got.  I'm sure his middle name is actually "Terry".

Right. And so they thought that he was lying, finally, after all these years.
But he pulled a fast one on them, and told the truth, so they knew the truth,
but didn't know they knew the truth.
Joe

>Terry "J" Wood
does "J" stand for Joe?
:)

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From: blanche@diana.cair.du.edu (Blanche Cohen)
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:09:12 GMT

Another comment was made to me about Sindareen being awful close to
Sanhedrin.
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Perot a Ferengi?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <7727@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct12.170957.24363@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, lbrother@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Larry Brothers) writes:
|> 
|> > Think about it:
|> 
|> > 1) He has big ears.
|> 
|> > 2) He is short.
|> 
|> > 3) He is a 'businessman'.
|> 
|> > Yes, folks, it's true:  Ross Perot is a Ferengi!  
|> 
|> No, no, my boy! Ya got that Backwards.  All Frerengi are decended from
|> ROSS PEROT!  Ya, see Ross left Earth in 2006 on one of the Pioneer space
|> probes.  It passed through a worm hole and he found himself on a planet
|> with women who looked just like him.  He converted them to his style of
|> economics and the rest, as they say is history!
|> 
|> > Maybe this will teach those little weasels a lesson.
|> 
|> Naaa.  I understand that Bill Clinton thinks that LOST IN SPACE was better
|> than Star Trek.

Naaa! Bill Clinton is Still Lost In Space!! ;-)
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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: McCoy Quotes Wanted
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:29:26 GMT

In article <BvoLur.4r@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos) writes:
> Hello Trekkers, Trekkies, Treknologists,  and all other indigenous life forms
> of the galaxy (and the Net)!
> 
> I am trying to compile a list of memorable McCoy-isms, and I would like your
stuff deleted...
> 
> P.S. I hear that there is an episode where McCoy says "Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor,
> not a..."<look of embarrassment, then proceeds to treat the wounded person Kirk
> asked him to>  If said episode exists, tell me which one it is.  I personally
> think someone is pulling my leg.  DO NOT POST OR E-MAIL ME TO TELL ME THAT THERE
> IS NO SUCH EPISODE.  I will assume that if I get no answer to this, that it
> doesn't exist.

Well, it's been a long time since I watched TOS, but as I recall in the episode
"Devil in the Dark"  McCoy says:  "Dammit, Jim!  I'm a doctor, not a
bricklayer!"  when asked to fix up the injured Horta.  Also, in the episode
with Julie Newmar as a pregnant chief's wife (Private Little War?  Not sure...)
he says something like "I'm a doctor, not an elevator/escalator."  
So, there are two examples.  Can anyone fill in the name of the second episode
I quoted?  

BTW, I have a friend who insists that McCoy once said "I'm a doctor, not a 
moon-shuttle conductor,", but I haven't been able to track that one down.

Kellie M-S
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
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From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Trek audioclip package for win3.1
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:59:58 GMT

In article <Bw3tso.Kv5@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John  
Boteler) writes:
> lawson@mdc.com writes:
> >I just purchased Star Trek Audioclips Volume 1 "The Logical  
Collection"
> Maybe I should put together my own collection with
> the original sound effects. I'll license them to myself
> for my own use. :)

FYI - I heard these and the recording quality is excellent. You'd  
probably need to hook a sound card directly up to a laserdisc's  
stereo-out jacks to get anything nearly as good.

(Unethical, immoral criminal-types just copy 'em from friends...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: BEST TEASERS????
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:09:53 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <g92n3258.41.718806283@giraffe.ru.ac.za> g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
>I'm not sure if this has been done yet, but we've already had people talking 
>about their favourite episodes, endings, actors, etc.  So here are, in my 
>opinion, the best and worst teasers...
>

Hmmm...Interesting question.

Best Teaser Ever?:  Without a doubt "Cause and Effect."  A teaser *can't*
get more exciting than watching as the Enterprise goes kablooey.  Brilliant
teaser, and a brilliant show as well.  

Worst Teaser Ever?: A tie for all the Lwaxana episodes where we see
her in the teaser. (-:

-- 
Jose Gonzalez                

                          
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: who is data?
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:53:00 EST

TO: SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu

>   After watching Star Trek: The Next Generation for four seasons, I entered
> into an in depth conversion about various cast members. Well the character
>name Data came up, and I have to honestly say I cannot remember who this
>member of the cast is. Could somebody please help me out?

You're kidding, right?  You say you've been watching TNG for FOUR
seasons and you don't remember the character DATA?!?!  What IS it with
you?  Do you remember the character Worf?  Jean-Luc Picard?  William T.
Riker?  Beverly Crusher?  Wesley Crusher?  Geordi LaForge?  Deanna Troi?

                DATA         IS         THE         ANDROID!!!!!!

Sheesh...


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Jason Wong
Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
INTERNET: bernie.wong@canrem.com


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Ahh!  The game's afoot, eh?  Chang
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From: mlsdb2gal@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Favourite Trek endings
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:37:21 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Starfleet: United Federation of Planets.
Starship USS Excelsior: NCC-2000-C.
Stardate 47682.9.3.26.38
From: Decker, Captain Jason H.
To: All Federation units.
Re: Favourite Trek Endings.

My personal favourites are:

City on The Edge of Forever 

A Private Little War

The Trouble With Tribbles

The Alternative Factor (Kirk: "But what of Lazur.....what of Lazurus")

Star Trek VI: TUC "To Boldly Go Where No Man....Where No One has gone before"

Who Watches The Watchers (TNG)

Half A Life (TNG)

The Survivors (TNG)

The Wounded (TNG)

The Defector (TNG)

The Most Toys (TNG)

There are others, but these are the ones I can think of just now. This is in
no particular order, and I'm ignoring ST:TNG season 5 beacause I haven't seen
it yet. Anyway, that's my pick, take it or leave it. No doubt some bright 
spark is due some comment about leaving it.

Let's see what's out there.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:49:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Could anyone explain to me why Star Trek has to be dubbed into a foreign
language in the first place?! This is one of my pet peeves(sp), being in France
or Germany on vacation and not being able to watch an American movie/TV 
program because some bright soul has replaced the original soundtrack with 
a French/German one.
---
In the Scandinavian countries, foreign movies are NEVER dubbed - only subtitles
are used. This means that William Shatner speaks English here, Brigitte Bardot
still speaks French in her classic films and that the extremely well-made
German police series such as "Ein fall fuer zwei" or "Der Alte" (I feel sorry
for the Americans who most likely don't get to see these) are 100% German
language in Finland as well. The way it was MEANT to be because an actor's
voice is an important part of the overall "piece of art" a TV movie represents.
The only exception is films aimed at children under 8 years of age, these have
to be dubbed because the audience hasn't learned to read yet! I don't think
adult Germans or Frenchmen have the same excuse. 
---
I hope this doesn't sound like a flame directed at speakers of German etc..
It's just that I think that the "big" nations on the Continent (France,
Germany, Spain, Italy) are doing themselves a disservice by trying to make
foreign (not just English-language) films sound more "home made" by replacing
the soundtrack. Watching and LISTENING to foreign-language movies is one of 
the best and easiest methods for learning a second language, Scandinavian kids
are actively encouraged to brush up their English and German by watching movies
with the subtitles blocked out (=an option on most modern TV sets). Of course,
there are politics involved. The French seem to be particularly worried about
American popular culture and English-language movies becoming more popular so 
I guess they think everything becomes less "threatening" with a new 
soundtrack.  

MARCU$
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:43:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.214955.21808@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>Do you know any German at all or are you just not aware of contractions when
>you are using them? There are many examples like 'zu dem' becomes 'zum' and
>'bei dem' becomes 'beim'. In cases like these I have been told by native
>germans that the contraction is actually the correct form and no one would
>ever use the other form. Does that clear it up any?

But is 'zum' an actual word, which evolved from 'zu dem'? Would Data say 'God be
with you' when he means 'Good-bye' because the latter evolved from the former?


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Looking for Christmas Spoof/Parody of Q
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:55:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct9.135531.2584
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hi Netters!!  I am looking for a copy of the spoof that was posted many
moons ago, about the "Night before Christmas" with the cast of the TNG
Enterprise, and Santa-Qs...

I *DO NOT* have FTP access, so if some kind sole out there could *PLEASE*
e-mail me a copy, or at least let me know you can e-mail me a copy (I'm
gonna get 1,500 copies, I know). IT would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,


Dave
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From: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com (Kurt Roithinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:05:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct12.140531.2644
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

AHA!
this does make things a lot clearer. i indeed didn't even think about
examples like "beim" or "vom". but then i also must admit that i have
always tried to avoid grammer as much as possible. sorry, my fault.

i think his current programming specifies that he learn/use the language in
the most proper way specified (i.e. he would become a walking/talking
Duden). it would seem reasonable to assume that he evolves as time
progresses (in "imzadi" the data of the future used contractions).

on the question of wheather he could learn another language that uses
contractions: ugh! isn't this something one would ask a philosophy student/
professor? My take: if it is proper within the given parameters of a
language - yes. if it is a slang or dialect - maybe. if it is in the
context of everyday usage ("it's...") - as of now, no.
(of course that's just my opinion....and we all what the problems is with
opinions....)

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Internet: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!kfr
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From: jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Subject: Re: Legal?
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:34:16 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>Sorry if this is a stupid question, but:
>
>Is it horrendously illegal for people to post Star Trek scripts
>(from the movies or series) to the newsgroup?

Yes, it is horrendously illegal.  Statutory copyright includes the
license to publish, and posting them here constitutes publication in
the legal sense.  Unless you receive permission from Paramount, the
copyright holder, you would be breaking the law.

>Since licensed dealers sell scripts at conventions, I'm guessing 
>they are not illegal to own, and as long as you're not charging money
>to see it, no laws are broken by showing a script to someone else.

The license the dealers operate under grants them a limited right of
publication.  They sell the scripts and pay royalties to Paramount.
You as the buyer do not have the right of publication.  Showing it to
another person, or lending it out (i.e., from a library) does not
constitute publication.  Posting it to USENET does consitute
publication, as would emailing it to large numbers of people.  Of
course, each case is specific and decided individually by a court of
law, but since one mode of publication, according to copyright law, is
"displaying the material in a public place" I'm sure USENET would
qualify as a public place.

It doesn't matter whether or not you charge money.  The driving idea
behind copyright law is not how much you would make from someone
else's intellectual property, but how much money the copyright owner
would lose from publication and derivation which did not generate
income for them.  So if you post to USENET and several hundred
thousand people read what you post, you could be liable for HUGE
damages.

I'm not a copyright lawyer either, but I think the above is fairly
correct. 
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