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From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP binary transfers
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:06:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr6.015645.14009@debug.cuc.ab.ca> Conan.Ford@debug.cuc.ab.ca (Conan Ford) writes:

   I've read about binary transfers over Internet when accessing a remote FTP
   location.  Are these direct - I mean, like, do they send the file
   directly over the network, or do they use a protocal like Zmodem or
   Xmodem.  Or do I not know the principles of FTP :-).  (I get my access
   this week.)

The FTP client and server are connected to each other by a TCP/IP
stream connection.  All of the data transfer and verification is
handled by the TCP/IP protocol, and the FTP client and server never
see it.  They simply write data to the socket and/or read data from
it, and the machines being used and the network between them take care
of the rest.

There *is* error-correction in the TCP/IP protocol, and besides that,
the data being sent *is* broken up into packets, so yes, at the lowest
level, "a protocol [note the spelling] like Zmodem or Xmodem" is used.
But the FTP programs never know about it and shouldn't have to.

-- 
Jonathan Kamens						jik@MIT.Edu
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From: peterson@ZGNEWS.LoneStar.Org (Bob Peterson)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: How can you get on the net ?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 05:46:25 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Zeitgeist BBS, Plano, TX  214 596 3720

fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Richard Fromm) writes:

> If you don't work at a company or go to a school that has net access, how
> can you get on the net?

  There is a periodic posting about running your own Usenet node,
including pointers to software.  Low-end requirements for email and
newsgroup access: a PC-clone, a modem, $30 registration of Waffle, and
someone to provide your feed.

  Operators of high-end Bulletin Board Systems (BBSs) frequently add
Usenet access, either free or for low fees.  Of course, these systems
don't normally offer ftp, telnet, or other interactive Internet
facilities.

  Commercial vendors such as Performance Systems (info@psi.com, I think)
and UUNET offer accounts to individuals.

> 				  Can this be done through services like
> CompuServe and Prodigy?  

  Compuserve offers email to/from domain addresses.  Prodigy does not,
and probably won't ever do so.  Genie reputedly will offer email
sometime this year.

>			Is there any cheaper way?  He primarily wants the
> account for e-mail.

  A BBS account.  For example, my BBS offers email and limited
newsgroups at no cost, although paying a $20/year fee gains access to a
phone number that isn't as busy.  (My free line stays offhook 18+
hours/day.)

> Please respond via mail.
> 
> - Rich Fromm

    Bob

Bob Peterson          Waffle BBS: peterson@ZGNews.LoneStar.Org
P.O. Box 865132       Internet: peterson@csc.ti.com  TelCo: 214 995-6080 days
Plano, Tx 75086-5132  BBS: 214 596-3720 @1200, 2400, 9600-14400 (HST & V.32bis)
From: jprevost@visual.spk.wa.us (Jack Prevost)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: .pnewsexpert
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:01:57 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market Public Access Site - Spokane, WA

In article <JIK.92Apr9182527@pit-manager.mit.edu> jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) writes:
>In article <3548@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> kwh@cs.arizona.edu (Kirby Hughes) writes:
>
>   The .pnewsexpert file reappeared.  So, everything should
>   have been back to normal, right?  Well, it isn't.  Rn used to stop after the
>   header info before displaying a post.  Now it doesn't anymore.  I don't know
>   if these things are related; all I want is for rn to work the same again.
>   To repeat the problem:  When I used to read news, the header for a post was
>   displayed, and then it waited for me to hit the spacebar before displaying
>   the whole post.  Now it just fills the entire screen at each post.
>   Anyone have an idea as to what happened?
>
>It is virtually impossible for the deletion and recreation of the
>.pnewsexpert file to have anything at all with the behavior you are
>observing in rn.  I just checked the entire rn source tree, and the
>ONLY places the string "pnewsexpert" appears is inside the Pnews
>script, when it checks to see if the file exists and when it creates
>it.
>
>If you don't tell rn specifically whether or not to pause at the end
>of the header, then it decides whether or not to do so based on what
>it thinks the baud rate of the terminal you're using is.  Perhaps you
>used a terminal with a different baud rate today, or perhaps your
>sysadmin changed the default configuration of rn?
>
>See the man page for rn to learn how to control this behavior so you
>can get the behavior you want.  I believe that using the option "-i=1"
>to rn will give you the behavior you want.

I think that the most likely explanation is that Pnews uses something
that confuses rn into thinking that you don't want the pause between
header and message.  (I believe there is a switch that does that, for
low baud rates.)  When Pnews is loaded, it might do something brain-dead
like overwrite memory to show the introduction file.  I noticed the same
problem when I erased mine.  (It was empty, I didn't know what it was,
why waste directory entries?  It's easier to read ;>)  But, the next
time I used trn, it worked fine.  Anyway, that's my 10E-2 dollars worth.

 
_______________________________________________________________________
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Organization: TECHNION - Israel Institute of Technology.
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 22:46:08 IST
From: <CERANVA@TECHNION.BITNET>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Can't read REC group

A couple of months ago, I had the following message when I connected to the
NETNEWS:  "Due to space and proccesing shortage groups ALT TALK SOC MISC and
REC are temporarily suspended (probably for about a week or so) Sorry..."
                                            ============
Many weeks have past since than and I still get this message everytime I
connect.
How can I solve the problem and read my favorite group again?
(rec.sport.basketball.pro)
Thank Ahead,
              Gal Eschet
         (ceranva@technion.bitnet)

P.S. please e-mail me the answer.
From: jba@ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: De-zipping stuff on-line...
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:42:41 GMT
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter, Danmark

bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King) writes:


>Since I still haven't been able to get programs like de-arc and de-zip
>I was wondering how I'd be able to take the other approach, ie: could
>I unzip,de-arc a program (Alchemy, the graphics program is the one
>I'm talking about primarily) online and then download it in an 
>.exe format? Any info/help is greatly appreciated...

We can't really help you unless you help us by providing us with some
of the following information:

	- Where do/can you get the programs (de-arc, de-zip) from?
	  A BBS? USENET News? By FTP? Mail server?

	- What kind of equipment do you receive them on? IBM PC?
	  Mac? Unix-box? VMS? Most likely a PC since you refer to
	  '.exe format'.

	  And where do you want to use them?

>Bill
>-- 
>Where's my pardner? where's my pardner? THERE's my pardner! == Cactus Jack
-- 
Jan B. Andersen <jba@dat.ruc.dk>                 ("SIMULA does it with class")
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: lorelei@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (laura.l.mirisola)
Subject: need info on starting a new newsgroup
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:36:07 GMT

Where can I get info on how to start a new newsgroup?  I know that first
I have to come up with a RFD, then have a CFV, but where are all the 
"official rules" on how exactly to do this?  I know I have seen this
info before.  Is it posted as a FAQ in any of the newsgroups?  If so,
which one?  I don't see anything in this newsgroup or in news.announce.
newgroups.

Thanks!

-Laura Mirisola
lmirisola@attmail.com

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: peterh@ukelele.UUCP (Peter Hartzler)
Subject: Re: De-zipping stuff on-line...
Organization: GAU Technologies, Fairfax County, VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:54:51 GMT

bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King) writes:

>Since I still haven't been able to get programs like de-arc and de-zip

arc files need pkunpak for extraction, zips need pkunzip.  pkunzip travels
on dos bbs's as pkzip110.exe, and is a self extracting program, shareware.
I am less familiar with arc, since I avoid it where possible.  You should
be able to find pkzip on just about any self respecting bbs.

>I was wondering how I'd be able to take the other approach, ie: could
>I unzip,de-arc a program (Alchemy, the graphics program is the one
>I'm talking about primarily) online and then download it in an 
>.exe format? Any info/help is greatly appreciated...

You are much better off decompressing your files _after_ moving them.  They
are safer, and will move faster.  There does exist unzip for unix systems,
whether it's on your system is up to your admin.
-- 
Peter Hartzler (peterh@ukelele.UUCP)
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Crossposting question
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:03:40 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <72992@netnews.upenn.edu> porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten) writes:

   I am about to post a CFD for a USENET group.  (Before you ask, yes, I have
   read all of the USENET how-to lists and I will be following all required
   rules.)  The question is, how do I set up a cross-post?  

You list the newsgroups to which you want to post in the Newsgroups
line of your posting, separated by commas but NOT by spaces, e.g.:

	Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.announce.newgroups,news.groups

-- 
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From: sascmc@pecos.unx.sas.com (Christopher Mark Conn)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: checking out the library of congress
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:19:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 498

Is there a way you can query the U.S. Library of Congress
through the net? Seems like I've seen some kind of group 
on USENET that handles this but I can't remember any details...
 
Thanks for any help,
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Christopher Mark Conn                                       sascmc@unx.sas.com
Systems Administrator / AIX Host Development         
SAS Institute Inc. PO Box 200075 Austin, Texas 78720-0075 (512) 258-5171 X3369
From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: How to be anonymous netter
Keywords: anonymous
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:43:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: moose.6APR199215435459
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Distribution: news
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
X-Lunar-Date: 3 days, 18 hrs, 14 mins until the first quarter of the moon (U.T.)

You know what's _really_ amusing about requests like this?  They pop up every
so often (esp. in alt.forgery) and usually spawn a few follow-ups (usually from
people insinuating that the original poster's intentions are suspect) -- but no
one ever tells anyone exactly _how_ to post anonymously!

Me included!

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, RAO%MOOSE@UMNACVX.BITNET>
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Locating posts by author... with rn, or via NNTP?
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:02:21 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr7.000838.21195@sol.UVic.CA> jtice@butterfly.UVic.CA (Jason W. Tice) writes:

   Unfortunately, we are connected to USEnet through NNTP,
   so I can't grep through the news directories (even then,
   it would be painfully slow).  

True.

   Again, unfortunately,  we use rn here, which doesn't seem
   to let me search for any posts by an author, regardless of
   group (or within a group).

Not true.  See this posting to find out how to search for posts by a
particular author:

Subject: rn KILL file FAQ
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,news.software.readers,news.answers

Available in the indicated USENET newsgroup(s), or via anonymous ftp from
pit-manager.mit.edu (18.172.1.27) in the file:

/pub/usenet/news.answers/killfile-faq

Also available from mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu by sending a mail message
containing:

send usenet/news.answers/killfile-faq

Send a message containing "help" to get general information about the
mail server.

However, if you can, you're better off asking the admins at your site
if they can do the search for you on the NNTP server, perhaps
suggesting to them the newsgroups that are the most likely candidates.
That will be faster.

Silly question: Why don't you just send your friend E-mail and ask?

-- 
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    (Send correspondence related to the news.answers newsgroup
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From: wernercg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Cancel an article?
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr17.052936.23434@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs921022@ariel.yorku.ca (MING HE) writes...
>Well, I post one test post and one test follow up in the distribution of my
>institution.  But I can't use capital 'C' to cancel the two articles.

It is possible you are logged on to a different node when you 
try to C the article.  Your posting address must match your
cancelling address.  Even though you consistently use the same nodename to logon to, 
your system may be auto-selecting from a group of nodes, 
finding the least busy one.  Can you append a suffix to the
end of your logon to designate the exact node you wish to 
logon to?

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: How to be anonymous netter
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Mar26.210652.5529@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Distribution: news
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 22:59:27 GMT

 qamar> ==   <qamar@bessal.UUCP> 

 qamar> Why do you waste your time asking such embarrassing questions here.

 qamar> Nobody knows the answer here. They only know how to preach net
 qamar> etiquettes here. ASK KAMCHATKA CHARLIE! He knows how.

Maybe some of us believe that anonymous posting (outside of things like
alt.personals, where it's encouraged *and has a system for doing it*),
is generally a bad idea, because it encourages people to be even more
irresponsible than usual on USENET.

Maybe some of us believe that if you're going to post anonymously we'd
like you to have a good reason for it.

Maybe some of us are trying to keep the net at least semi-usable, and
things like sendsys forgeries do the opposite.

And maybe, just maybe, some of us *do* know how to post anonymously, but
feel that our words mean more when we admit we wrote them, however
stupid they were ;-)

--Chris
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From: bickle@mitchell.hac.com (Vanessa Bickle)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Bogus newsgroups
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:35:26 GMT
Reply-To: bickle@mitchell.hac.com (Vanessa Bickle)
Distribution: na
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company


I am using "xrn". There has been an increasing frequency of
fake newsgroups, ones with names like "alt.puke.pukeSender:"
and "xxxx.eats.xxx". I am getting annoyed with these newsgroups
showing up every time up start up xrn and being queried about 
whether to subscribe to them or not. Some of them (like
the first one I mentioned) cause an error to my .newsrc file
and require me to edit my .newsrc file before I start up xrn.
Is there anything that I can do about this?


Vanessa
bickle@mitchell.hac.com
From: sascmc@pecos.unx.sas.com (Christopher Mark Conn)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: looking for a listserv site
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:38:23 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 618

I am looking for a site that will be willing to host a listserv
list for runners in Texas, to be called DRSTX (Dead Runners Society
of Texas). This will be a discussion group for runners living in
(or interested in) Texas. I would also like for it to be a closed list.

Please drop me a line if you can offer one.
Thanks!

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Christopher Mark Conn                                       sascmc@unx.sas.com
Systems Administrator / AIX Host Development         
SAS Institute Inc. PO Box 200075 Austin, Texas 78720-0075 (512) 258-5171 X3369
From: Jay.Ashworth@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: How do you restrict distribution nationally?
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:28:00 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

In a msg of <Saturday March 28 1992>, Lionel Tun wrote to All:

 LT> When I start a post, rn asks me...
 LT> Distribution:
 LT> to which I have no reply. What can I put in here to limit say posts
 LT> to the UK? Is there a list of codes somewhere?

Bra_vo_, sir.  We love people like you, who not only want to restrict their postings, so as not to overflow the net, but are actually motivated enough to ask...

There is indeed a list, in one of the postings you ought to find in news.annouce.newusers.  I suspect that an answer of "uk" ought to do it, but it depends on the setup of the gateways in and out of the UK.

You might also ask your news admin, or your feed's admin to see if they know.

Cheers,
-- jra

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From: jba@ruc.dk (Jan Bruun Andersen)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Need help with FTP
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:23:47 GMT
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter, Danmark

voorhees@sdd.hp.com (Joe Voorhees) writes:

>I'm not quite sure what's going on with ftp, so I'd really appreciate it 
>if there's a guru on the net that would help me. Here's the problem:

>I can anon. ftp successfully to other sites owned by my company (HP) by
>using either the site or the main IP. When I try to anon. ftp to an 
>"anonymous ftp site" by site name I get the message:

>ftp: <name>: No address associated with name

Looks like your sys-admin hasn't set up the name-to-address resolver
properbly.

Almost all of the sites that's on the internet is also registrered in the
Domain Name System (DNS). DNS is a distributed database containing (among
other things) the name-to-address mapping for each sites hosts. In order
for your system to get access to the DNS, your sys-admin needs to set up
something called the 'resolver'. On our system, the configuration file
is called /etc/resolv.conf and contains the following info:

	; /etc/resolv.conf (Gorm)
	;
	; Last changed: 22 Jul 91 (jba)
	;
	; Default domain name
	;
	domain		ruc.dk
	;
	; Name servers (max 3)
	;
	nameserver	129.142.144.13		; gorm.ruc.dk
	nameserver	129.142.6.64		; danpost.uni-c.dk

Using this configuration, our host (Gorm) will query first its own
local nameserver, then the nameserver at danpost.uni-c.dk. Now, if
danpost doesn't know the answer either, the query is forwarded to
another hosts (determined by /etc/resolv.conf on danpost) and so
on.

>where <name> is the site name. If I try to anon. ftp to an "anonymous ftp site"
>by it's main IP I get the message:

>ftp: connect: No route to host

Your host doesn't know how to reach the specicified host, probably because
it doesn't have the prober routes installed. Without routing information,
your host can only reach machines on its own network. Again, this is some-
thing your sys-admin has to set up. On our system, the command to check
the routing tables is 'netstat -r':

Routing tables
Destination          Gateway              Flags    Refcnt Use        Interface
loopback             loopback             UH       24     41112      lo0
mmf-net              mmf-gw               UG       0      45         ie0
default              dk-gw.uni-c.dk       UG       5      9433       ie0
denet                gorm                 U        94     817563     ie0

while the command to modify the tables is /usr/etc/route.

>What's going on here?

Maybe your sys-admin doesn't want you to be able to connect to the
outside?

>Thanks in advance!

>Joe Voorhees
>voorhees@sdd.hp.com
-- 
Jan B. Andersen <jba@dat.ruc.dk>                 ("SIMULA does it with class")
From: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP by mail (answer)
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:58:31 GMT
Reply-To: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

>>>So, my question is, how can I request files available via FTP via email?
>>>
>>Matt, why bother with 'FTP-by-mail'.
>>Your machine (UNIX1.TCD.IE) is **directly** connected to the Internet,
> 
> What about the poor souls like me who AREN'T directly connected?  I was
> looking forward to the answer for that question!

send mail to   ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com    with no subject and in the message,
just the word  'help'

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