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From: jbatka@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Clinton and Space Funding
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:44:00 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

First of all this discussion DOES NOT belong in sci.astro.  Note, any
follow-up should be Email or sent to talk.politics or some such.

Saying that the USA will become competitive because all of its
scientific and engineering talent will be freed up from military
R&D is B.S.  I am an engineer (contractor) working for the military.
As military spending decreases, I stand an increasing chance of
being laid-off.  THIS IS NOT GOOD.  Since hundreds of thousands
of Aero-Space & Defense engineers and scientists have been laid-
off, there are little or no positions in civilian industries.  I
will be forced to find a different job type.  In other words, you
are LOSING any potential benefit from my and other experts talent.

In addition to that small problem, all of these laid-off workers
will be collecting unemployment (2/3 of salary to a point).  This
is paid by YOUR tax dollars.

Do I have a solution to this ...  HELL NO.  I am just stating that
this is NOT a simple problem, and should not be treated as such.
Whether the US needs as strong a military as it has is not for me
to say.  BUT, if the US public demands a military reduction, it
should be done intelligently so that the talent tied up in the 
military-industrial complex does not evaporate.

OK, I'll step down from my soap-box now, sorry about that.

-- 

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From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Explore->Colonies (Was: Clinton and Space Funding)
Date: 29 Sep 1992 14:28 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.196
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Sep25.210921.19935@Princeton.EDU>, phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser) writes...
> 
>Although the first _English_ colony landed in 1620, the Spanish had long since  
>conquered the Aztecs and had a very nice empire going.  Your date analogy is in  
>effect stating when the first- say European, moon colonies will be established.   
>They are about as far behind of the US as the English were behind the Spanish  
>at the time.  

So you are saying that if we were to find a thriving civilization on the
moon that it wouldn't be so difficult to establish a human colony there?
I suppose that's true, if vacously.

-Scott
--------------------
Scott I. Chase			"The question seems to be of such a character
SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		that if I should come to life after my death
				and some mathematician were to tell me that it
				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
From: bill.nunnelee@the-matrix.com (Bill Nunnelee)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: LIST OF ECLIPSES WANTED P
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:36:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: the-matr.668.413.uupcb
Reply-To: bill.nunnelee@the-matrix.com (Bill Nunnelee)
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016

-> Please could someone out there e-mail me a list of any total solar
-> eclipses that will happen anywhere in the world during 1993.   It's

   Sorry, but there are no total eclipses of the Sun next year.
From: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de (Jost Jahn)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Sunspots at 04.10.1992.
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de
Distribution: sci
Organization: ABBS AstroMail, D-W 2121 Dahlenburg / Germany
X-Version: ZerUU V6.45c

Sunspots at 04.10.1992., 0 h UT.

No.    Pos.  Cl.  Ar.  Mag. SF  F  M  X
---------------------------------------
7293 07S 70W Hax   60   a    1
7294 10S 48W Hhx  250   a
7295 14N 27W Hsx   90   a
7296 07N 24W Bxo   10   b
7298 16N 09E Dao   80   b    1
7300 13N 47E Cso   40   b    1
7301 16S 25E Cai   60   b    2
7303 12S 32E Axx    0   a
7304 05N 07E Bxo   10   b
7305 12N 55E Dao  100   b


No optical or x-ray flares yesterday observed.


 
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From: rmk@baal.unh.edu (Robert M. Kenney)
Subject: Re: Columbus' Nationality (was Re: Explore->Colonies)
Originator: rmk@baal.unh.edu
Organization: USNH Computer Services, Durham, NH
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:52:26 GMT



	Has anybody heard anything more about the theory/rumor that CC's
    family had emigrated to Italy from Scandinavia 2nd-3rd generations
    previously?  Or that they were nobility that had fallen into disfavor
    for some reason, thus the (forced?) emigration?

	I can't remember where I've read about this, but was wondering
    if it had been discredited(or ignored).  Anybody else?

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From: ralph.buttigieg@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Ralph Buttigieg)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: radio & meteors
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:52:50 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au


A friend of mine has an interesting idea for an astronomical experiment. Its
known that radio waves can be reflected of the ionised paths of meteors.
Therefore its possible to pick up radio stations from far away. Now the size
of Earths atmosphere will change under the effect of the Suns activity which
should effect the altitude that the meteors cause ionization. So if the
distance of the received radio stations was measured you might be able to
graph a correlation between the distance and solar activity.

What he would like is the exact location (Longitude and Latitude) of the
picked up radio stations. Is this information known? How would he get it?

ta
Ralph

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 * Origin: Vulcan's World-Sydney Australia 02 635-1204 (3:713/635)
From: meier@Software.Mitel.COM (Rolf Meier)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: Shape of telescope mirror?
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:50:10 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <3244@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> mjb@mulka.ph.unimelb.edu.au (Michael Beeching) writes:
>

>out the mirror more away from the centre! In fact a sphere and
>parabola (with equal focal lengths) if placed on top of each other,
>shows that the sphere is always higher! (ie you can place the sphere
>into the parabold and just have the lowest points touching) So what

True, but you can't add glass to a sphere to make it into a parabola.
All you can do is remove glass.  You actually answered your own
question.  In the parabolizing process, you end up with a very
slightly shorter focal length parabola than the sphere you started
out with.

____________________________________________________________________
Rolf Meier					Mitel Corporation

Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: snyder@ronin.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Variable Star Observations
Organization: NASA Lewis Reserch Center	   #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:37:27 GMT

In article <21620@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de> pasc@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Patrick Schmeer) writes:
... Data ...
>Sequence  : AAVSO
...
>Sequence  : The Astronomer
...
>Sequence  : Hubble GSC

Ok, what is meant by 'Sequence'?  Does it refer to a specific list of
comparison stars? Or a specific type of procedure?  (I have a hard time
attempting to see how the GSC could be used as a 'sequence')

Suggested references?

david b. snyder                   |  The Persistant Planetology Speculation:
email: snyder@ronin.lerc.nasa.gov |  Where there's a rill there's a ray.

Newsgroups: sci.astro
From: bowen@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Devon E Bowen)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: "I Apologize"--Fine. Now GET LOST.
Keywords: Babbling Idiot
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:09:20 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: bowen@castor.cs.buffalo.edu


Can we please be "businesslike" and leave the subject line alone when
following up to Hannu's postings? When the subject line jumps around
like this it's difficult for my kill file to weed them out. Many thanks.

Devon
From: oler@rho.uleth.ca (Cary Oler)
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 03 October
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date:  5 Oct 92 23:45:51 GMT

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 277, 10/03/92
10.7 FLUX=120.1  90-AVG=123        SSN=154      BKI=1222 1121  BAI=005
BGND-XRAY=B2.3     FLU1=2.6E+05  FLU10=1.3E+04  PKI=1222 2332  PAI=008
  BOU-DEV=005,013,019,013,008,008,015,008   DEV-AVG=011 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C1.9   @ 2005UT    XRAY-MIN= B2.1   @ 0925UT   XRAY-AVG= B3.2
NEUTN-MAX= +004%  @ 1925UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 0525UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.3%
  PCA-MAX= -2.9DB @ 0525UT     PCA-MIN= -3.4DB @ 1940UT    PCA-AVG= -3.1DB
BOUTF-MAX=55427NT @ 2328UT   BOUTF-MIN=55394NT @ 1740UT  BOUTF-AVG=55418NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+084NT@ 1950UT   GOES7-MIN=N:-012NT@ 1112UT  G7-AVG=+070,+042,+006
GOES6-MAX=P:+094NT@ 0743UT   GOES6-MIN=E:-016NT@ 1648UT  G6-AVG=+080,-004,+030
 FLUXFCST=STD:125,130,135;SESC:125,130,135 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,010,010/010,010,010
    KFCST=2332 2223 2332 2223  27DAY-AP=017,017   27DAY-KP=3442 3233 3442 3233
 WARNINGS=*SWF
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!
From: njzy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (T. Joseph Lazio, Cornell University)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: magnetic breaking
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:49:41 EDT
Distribution: sci
Organization: Cornell University

In article <BvFHsw.67C@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>,
stefan@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Stefan Mochnacki) writes: 
> cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain) writes:
> 
> 
>> Can anyone clarify the present ideas on magnetic breaking as the
>> mechanism whereby the Sun lost it angular momentum during Solar system
>> formation? Specifically I am unclear as to whether this was theorized
>> to have taken place before or after nuclear fusion started in the Sun.
> 
> The standard model is due to Weber & Davis, 1967 Ap.J. (I don't
> have the exact reference - I'm at home )
> [details deleted...]
> Thus, assuming the Skumanich Law and solid body rotation, one can pretty 
> easily if crudely show that the Sun could have started its main sequence life
> rotating very fast ( 100 km/sec or more equatorial speed), and it could
> have breaked to the present 2 km/sec. Of course, if the interior is
> rotating rapidly, this may not be right, but we DO observe rapidly-
> rotating cool dwarfs in young clusters such as the Pleiades. It is therefore
> POSSIBLE that the Sun was rotating rapidly at the time of solar system
> formation, BUT the "memory" of its early rotation has been lost: it could
> have been rotating SLOWLY all along and we cannot tell the difference
> from studying the Sun, its wind, and the stars, alone. The only evidence
> remaining would be in meteorites and other relics of the very early Solar
> System.

 This is, in some respects, interesting and unfortunate.  One of the 
 indirect arguments I heard (in the past) for the existence of extra-solar 
 system planets was the number of slowly rotating F, G, & K dwarfs.

-- 
 T. Joseph Lazio                | Why relativity? and Why  
 514 Space Sciences             | turbulence?  I really believe   
 Ithaca, NY  14853-6801         | [God] will have an answer for the
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Newsgroups: sci.astro,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
From: oler@rho.uleth.ca (Cary Oler)
Subject: ALERT: Major Geomagnetic Storm Alert
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:11:53 GMT

                    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                        MAJOR GEOMAGNETIC STORM ALERT

                        ISSUED: 16:30 UT, 29 SEPTEMBER

                    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


ATTENTION:

     Geomagnetic activity surpassed the major storm threshold at 15:00 UT on
29 September.  Major to severe storming has been observed since approximately
03:00 UT.  Storm activity is expected to continue for the next 24 hours.

     Significant degradation of HF radio signals over the polar to middle
latitude signal paths has been observed.  Signal quality is expected to
continue very poor over these paths for the next 48 to 72 hours.

     Strong auroral storming has been observed in conjunction with this
disturbance.  Activity has been observed throughout the northern to central
U.S. states.  Observations of activity will be possible over southern
Australia and New Zealand, as well as the northern to north-central areas of
Europe.


**  End of Alert  **
From: lew@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (lewis.h.mammel..jr)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Re: How to teach about free fall? (was Re: zero gravity)
Summary: correction
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:08:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1992Sep28.170806.15744
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep28.014714.27580@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, lew@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (lewis.h.mammel..jr) writes:
> In article <12990038@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, paulz@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Paul Zander) writes:
> 
> Where would you place a spring scale to weigh a pound of butter ?
> You don't have to go into space to become entangled with virtual frames
> of reference! Onward to Einstein!

For "virtual frames of reference" read "noninertial frames of reference"
( or "virtual forces" since one entails the other. )

Lew Mammel, Jr.
From: pasc@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Patrick Schmeer)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Variable Star Observations
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:38:21 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes

Visual magnitude estimates by
Patrick Schmeer, Saarbruecken-Bischmisheim, Germany:
 
FG SAGITTAE
Sep. 15.931 UT,  11.6 ; 16.919,  11.8 ; 17.892,  12.0 ;
     19.938 UT,  12.0 ; 21.841,  12.2 ; 22.917,  12.3 ;
     23.881 UT,  12.3 ; 25.863,  12.5 ; 26.886,  12.5 ;
     27.843 UT,  12.5
Instrument: 203-mm SCT
Sequence  : AAVSO
 
NOVA CYGNI 1992  (NA)
Sep. 15.941 UT,   9.0 ; 16.924,   9.1 ; 17.908,   9.1 ;
     20.006 UT,   9.2 ; 21.850,   9.2 ; 22.926,   9.1 ;
     23.945 UT,   9.1 ; 25.096,   9.0 ; 26.104,   9.1 ;
     27.1   UT,   9.1 ; 28.903,   9.2
Instrument: 20x80 binoculars
Sequence  : The Astronomer
 
GRO J0422+32
Sep. 23.156 UT,  13.0 ; 24.138,  13.0 ; 25.135,  13.1 ;
     26.167 UT,  13.1 ; 27.146,  13.1      
Instrument: 203-mm SCT
Sequence  : Hubble GSC
 
GK PERSEI  (NA+UGSS)
Sept. 1.925 UT,  12.4 ;  3.867,  12.6 ;  5.992,  12.8 ;
      7.054 UT,  12.9 ;  9.13 ,  12.9 ; 22.938,  13.1 ;
     23.894 UT,  13.2 ; 25.136,  13.1 ; 26.081,  13.2 ;
     27.033 UT,  13.1 ; 27.879,  13.1
Instrument: 203-mm SCT
Sequence  : AAVSO
 
AX PERSEI  (ZAND+E)
Sept. 7.140 UT,  12.2 ;  8.924,  12.2 ; 15.936,  11.8 ;
     16.922 UT,  12.1 ; 17.894,  12.1 ; 20.002,  12.3 ;
     21.883 UT,  12.3 ; 27.917,  12.3
 
CH CYGNI  (ZAND+SR)
Sep. 15.942 UT,   8.7
 
R CORONAE BOREALIS  (RCB)
Sep. 15.839 UT,   6.0 ; 16.837,   6.0 ; 17.823,   6.0 ;
     19.850 UT,   6.0 ; 26.803,   6.0 ; 29.827,   6.0 ;
At maximum.
 
----------------------------------------------------------------
 
RX ANDROMEDAE  (UGZ)
Sep. 24.124 UT,  13.9:; 27.915,  11.0 ; 30.164,  11.5 ;
In outburst.
 
IR GEMINORUM  (UGSU)
Sep. 23.111 UT,  11.7 ; 24.119,  11.9 ; 25.128,  12.1 ;
     26.165 UT,  12.1 ; 27.126,  12.2
Superoutburst!
 
AR ANDROMEDAE  (UGSS)
Sep. 22.993 UT,  11.6 ; 24.120,  11.8 ; 25.138,  11.8 ;
     26.168 UT,  11.9 ; 27.910,  12.1
In outburst.
 
RU PEGASI  (UGSS)
Sep. 15.913 UT,  12.5 ; 16.915,  11.7 ; 17.885,  11.4 ;
     19.932 UT,  11.5 ; 22.983,  11.8:; 23.942,  11.8 ;
     26.888 UT,  12.2 ; 27.883,  12.5
Returned to minimum after faint outburst.
 
YZ CANCRI  (UGSU) 
Sep. 16.119 UT,  11.5 ; 17.117,  11.7 ; 20.144,  12.0 ;
     23.128 UT, (13.0
Superoutburst!
     27.153 UT,  13.0:
Normal outburst.
 
SU URSAE MAJORIS  (UGSU)
Sep. 20.135 UT,  12.7 ; 23.149,  13.5:
Outburst.
 
AY LYRAE  (UGSU)
Sep. 17.906 UT,  13.2
Superoutburst!
 
Z CAMELOPARDALIS  (UGZ)
Sep. 16.108 UT,  11.9 ; 17.111,  10.8 ; 18.138,  10.8 ;
     20.137 UT,  11.2 ; 23.150,  11.7 ; 24.113,  11.8 ;
     25.113 UT,  11.9 ; 26.160,  11.9 ; 27.124,  11.9 ;
     30.159 UT,  11.7
Currently at standstill.
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.physics
From: hporopudas@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Space Potatoes
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:53:56 GMT


In article <KUKKONEN.92Oct1173810@supergirl.hut.fi>,
kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi (Sami Kukkonen) writes:
> Hannu P writes:
>
>> And because this inhuman and hostile environment of science to amateurs...
>> I think that atheistic scientists are fully reponsible for ordinary
>> peoples sufferings in all over the world...
>> ...all kind of evil will be in full power in all around the world.
>
> 	You are getting a bit carried away, where's that praised
> 	businesslike self control?
>

    I'am sorry I lost my temper, because too many unbusinesslike comments.


> 	I understand that you are disappointed because people rejected
> 	your surreal potato theory but your accusations are getting
> 	paranoid. If you are unable to understand science maybe you
> 	should post your articles to talk.religion.misc or alt.bizarre.
>

    You are yourself paranoid with your 'tupsu-viitta'-stories in
    sfnet.keskustelu.filosofia (philosophy) where I encontered your stupid
    stories about The Holy Bible.

> 	A change of newsgroups might also help you to gain a cult following
> 	of potatoheads and you can start raising funds for the Institute of
> 	Scientific Potatonism.
> --
> kukkonen@niksula.hut.fi/ Everything in this article is factual, and any
> kukkonen@unda.fi      / resemblance to actual persons, places or organizations
>     < Ardberg >      / living, dead or drunk, is purely intentional.

    Do you know what happens when 'Kukkonen' and 'Kananen' encounters. ?


    ---Hannu.
From: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de (Jost Jahn)
Newsgroups: sci.astro
Subject: Sunspots at 29.09.1992.
Reply-To: j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:08:00 MET
Distribution: sci
Organization: ABBS AstroMail, D-W 2121 Dahlenburg / Germany
X-Version: ZerUU V6.45c

Sunspots at 29.09.1992., 0 h UT.

No.    Pos.  Cl.  Ar.  Mag. SF  F  M  X
---------------------------------------
7289 09S 40W Cao  170   b    2
7291 06S 71W Axx    0   a    1
7293 06S 03W Eao  170   gd
7294 11S 17E Hhx  260   a
7295 13N 41E Cso  140   b
7296 06N 42E Cso   90   b


No optical or x-ray flares yesterday observed.


 
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Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 11:46:45 SET
From: Mike M. Skala <MSKALA@ESRIN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: sci.misc
Subject: Re: Gecco's to control bugs?

In article <6661@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill
Broadley) says:
>
>
>It sounds good to me, but I have a dog who I don't think would catch
>the gecco but wouldn't want to be poisened if the dog did.
>

If your dog is good in crawling vertical walls, he *might*
catch the gecko, but I'll doubt it. They are *really* shy.

Seriously, they are quite common around here (Italy and
Southern Europe in general), never heard of a problem.
Actually a friend of mine is living with dog and gecko for years now
and one cat in our house regularly catches (and eats)
other lizards, no problems so far.

>Are gecco's poisoness?  Anyone use one for such purposes?  Any other
>suggestions for predators for bugs that could live in a house easily?
>

Spiders are good in controlling flies, but not to everyones taste.
On my side of our house lifes a family of bats -> no mosquitoes.
Bats have the advantage of great entertainment value too :)

mike

--
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mskala@esrin.bitnet

Xref: sparky sci.misc:1650 rec.pets:3205
From: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Bill Broadley)
Newsgroups: sci.misc,rec.pets
Subject: Gecco's to control bugs?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:23:57 GMT
Reply-To: broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu
Followup-To: sci.misc
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I'm curious about completely non-poisonous methods of controlling the
bug population in a house.

A friend suggested gecco's, he said they are nocturnal, eats bugs, and
only need water for maintance.  He said the only way you know you
have a gecco is if you look under posters etc. for them, or by the
whirring noice they make at night.

It sounds good to me, but I have a dog who I don't think would catch
the gecco but wouldn't want to be poisened if the dog did.

Are gecco's poisoness?  Anyone use one for such purposes?  Any other
suggestions for predators for bugs that could live in a house easily?



-- 
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Broadley@schneider3.lrdc.pitt.edu <2nd 3rd> 	Broadley+@pitt.edu
		AFS just say NO!
Newsgroups: sci.misc
From: alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler)
Subject: Re: Gecco's to control bugs?
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:03:21 GMT

In article <6661@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu writes:
>I'm curious about completely non-poisonous methods of controlling the
>bug population in a house.

>A friend suggested gecco's, he said they are nocturnal, eats bugs, and

   I tried that with Anoles once.  I ended up having to add bugs (crickets)
to keep the dang things alive.  I don't believe geccos are poisonous.  (very
few lizards are).
  
   Another alternative is preying mantises.

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From: alex@bilver.uucp (Alex Matulich)
Subject: Re: Gecco's to control bugs?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:57:14 GMT

broadley@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu writes:
[about controlling bugs]
>A friend suggested gecco's, he said they are nocturnal, eats bugs, and
>only need water for maintance.  He said the only way you know you
>have a gecco is if you look under posters etc. for them, or by the
>whirring noice they make at night.

A friend of mine, tired of the cockroaches in his apartment, went to the
local pet store and bought a couple of gekkos.  Took them home, and let
them loose.

He saw far fewer roaches after that.  He didn't really see either of the
gekkos again, however, except for one time when one got stuck in the
bathtub and couldn't get out.

>Are gecco's poisoness?  Anyone use one for such purposes?  Any other
>suggestions for predators for bugs that could live in a house easily?

As far as I know, they're not poisonous.  And they are damn fast.  Your
dog wouldn't be able to catch one.

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