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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Soccer on American TV?
Date: 7 Sep 1992 17:51:14 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

With the recent discussion of Wynalda's goals for Saarbruecken, but
not being able to see them, does anyone have any information on
ESPN and the Bundesliga?

As most of you in the US know, the famous Toby Charles was back on US
television from about March until late May (the end of the Bundesliga
season) last year. Yet this year, no "German Soccer Weekly".

Since ESPN is doing the WC on US television, isn't it a bit strange that
they haven't at least brought Toby back?

Prof. Christopher S. Allen
Political Science Department
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
Voice: (706) 542-2984   FAX: (706) 542-2984
Internet: CSALLEN@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: It's a grand old team to play for ??
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:42:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.124119.28331@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
> In article <1992Sep15.102211.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>>In article <1992Sep14.182036.14841@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>>>        

>>As Sandy himself will tell you, we have never had any problem with criticising
>>Celtic over the past few years-the fanzine NTV is good evidence of this and a
>>good laugh as well.  The biggest problem that we have is that it is very
>>difficult to make a private"family" company do what the majority of supporters
>>think is best.  It was apparently no easier for the decent supporters of your
>>team, which is afterall a public company,to get rid of the most despicable
>>policy in Scottish sport i.e. it took about 115 YEARS!
> 
> It took 104 years for Celtic to rid itself of the second most despicable
> policy in Scottish sport.
> 
I assume you refer to appointing a non-Catholic to the board.  This cannot
compare.  Remember we are talking about a club that has been in the hands of a
number of families since it was formed.  These families have refused attempts
by a number of people over the years to get shares purely on the basis that
they don't want their monopoly broken.  This is the right of all private
limited companies.  It has also proved to be the undoing of Celtic.  The
appointment of Dempsey recently was pretty startling because he had no family
connections, unfortunately he had some good ideas and so did not last long.  As
I say, the families have until recently kept the shares exclusively to
themselves and since at the outset they were all Catholics, the only
conceivable way of having a non-Catholic shareholder was through religeous
conversion.  The appointment of David Smith was revolutionary because he had no
family connections and none with Celtic as far as I know.  Who gives a shit
what his religeon-if any-is, so long as he does a good job.  Notice that he
still has no shares!  As far as the bulk of Celtic fans are concerned we want
the shares in the hands of capable Celtic Fans,religeon does not come into
it.But it is almost impossible to break a family monopoly.  This red herring is
all too often brought out to try and make the bigoted policies of Rangers in
the past seem not so despicable.
Don't feel so bad about it, that FAMILY monopoly has kept a lot of talent away
from helping to run Scotland's greatest football club :-)

Chris
> -- 
>  Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  
>  Spider Systems Limited     abuse  031-554-9424
>  Edinburry                  "We're no just ony works fitba' team, we are
>  Scotland                    Dukla Pumpherston Sawmills an' Tannery"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: edm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Ed Martinez)
Subject: Ruling on backpasses to the goalkeaper
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:42:27 GMT

I am sure this has been asked, but I just discovered this newsgroup, but could anybody explain (pref. by e-mail to avoid wasting everybody else's time) the new rule on backpasses to the goalkeeper? Or failing that point me to where I could get information on this. I play in a very small (very *amateur*) league and the refs could not give me a consitent explanation!!!

Thanks

Ed Martinez
edm@kalman.sps.mot.com
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Scotland in Europe
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:02:03 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart) writes:
> 
>Ec1 - Rangers v Lyngby
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> A case of big against small but given the consistent rise in standard
>of Danish football in recent years, this is no easy fixture for Rangers.

Danish football has increased its standard: yes. Lyngby has: no. It's
almost pathetic to see the performance of the Danish champions this
year. Perhaps we can finally get rid of them in the best division.

>  2-0, 1-1

More like 3-0,1-0 (as seen from the side of Rangers).
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen       | Liverpool FC - 18xChampions, 5xCup Winner,
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk  |                4xEC1 and 2xEC3 Winner
          AGF and Liverpool FC for the 1993 EC2 final
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.italian
From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: Holland - Italy review
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:38:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.012619.7724@samba.oit.unc.edu> Matthew.Lehrer@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matthew Lehrer) writes:
>Marco, dont you think Baiano would be a good addition to the Italian
>attack? Was he in the squad for the Holland game?

He was capped but he didn't play. IMHO, Baiano would indeed be a good
addition to the team, but it seems that things worked well in the
game against the Netherlands with the Italian attack; Vialli and Baggio
seem to play well together, and Eranio, although he sits on the Milan
bench, also proved to be effective in the Azzurri attack. With Italy's
first WC qualfying game just over a month away (Oct. 14 against Switzerland),
I'm guessing that Sacchi will be taking the "if it ain't broke, don't
fix it" attitude towards the starting line-up, given the team's
performance on Wednesday. There are, however, a number of potentially
good attackers who could play on the national team, but I don't think
we'll Sacchi shake things up too much in the near future.

Marco...
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From: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk (Timothy Emanuel)
Subject: Re: Liverpool and Souness bashing
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:21:58 GMT

In article <BuKLu3.4rJ@ecf.toronto.edu> yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy) writes:
>It is incredible that so many people (probably Man.Utd fans) are now bringing
>forward the fact that the Liverpool management has been chasing the best 
>players in England and the world to bring them to Anfield Road and arguing the

Mark Walters.
Michael Thomas.
Paul Stewart.

Best players in the world?

Ha ha ha ha ha     bonk!

Tim.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk (Timothy Emanuel)
Subject: Re: Souness Bashing
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 19:23:47 GMT

In article <BuFsJq.DsD@ecf.toronto.edu> yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy) writes:
>Finally Liverpool haters from all over the world get their first chance in 
>decades to take cheap shots at Liverpool because they are not doing very well
>this season and Graeme Souness seems to be their punching ball. I am pretty
>sure that 90% of those people are Manchester United fans who finally get a    
>chance to release the frustration that has been building up during the last
>10-20 years that Liverpool has been dominating English and European soccer 
>whereas Man. Utd has could only watch from the sidelines. While unleashing that
>frustration they seem to forget one crucial point: Liverpool's best players are
>injured and once they all recover, they will be kicking ass(including Man

Liverpool's best players are injured are they? Let's see now, there's John
Barnes, er, John Barnes, anyone else, oh yes John Barnes. Not to forget John
Barnes of course.

Liverpool have been playing practically full strength teams lately. It just
happens that these teams are made up of has-beens, never weres, and panic
buys. Their only two victories this year have been scrappy wins against
Sheffield United and Chelsea, and I will be surprised if they beat a top
team all season.

>Watch our Manchester, we are coming back.

Yup, and you're probably gonna play for a draw again.

Tim.
From: ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Sportschannel and English League soccer
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:05:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

HAs SC started showing the weekly highlights?
Prasad
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: newbery@zonda.atd.ucar.edu (Santiago Newbery)
Subject: Maradona to Sevilla
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:21:04 GMT

Diego Maradona is free to go to Sevilla according to FIFA sec. general
Joseph Blatter, who convinced the president of Napoli, Corrado Ferlaino,
to agree to the transfer. This comes after several days of speculation,
after Blatter made the request to the Italian Football Federation, to
act on Maradona's behalf.

  Santiago Newbery  <<<<>>>>  newbery@zonda.atd.ucar.edu
	NCAR / Atmospheric Technology Div. / SSSF
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Lithuanian League Round 3
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:56:11 GMT

Round 3
Sakalas                  1-1 LMV
Jovaras                  1-1 Ekranes
Banga                    1-0 Inkaras
Sirijus                  5-2 Snaige
Paneris                  3-1 Elektro
Minija                   1-3 Jalgiris
GVV                      0-0 Granitas

-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
From: dps@maths.tcd.ie (Padraic Murray)
Subject: liverpool are crap
Summary: no kinda autumn
Keywords: shite souness is a tosser
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:54:23 GMT


i think that liverpool are a crock of shit since that tosser
souness took over
how can a team be managed by a stupid ould fart who noone south
of Ibrox can understand a word he says and that scummy tache doesnt
help
he swore he'd never leave rangers and then liverpool begged him so
off he fucked
liverpool were a bit fucked up but they were okay
then souness came in and said whoa lets get relegated
so he sold houghton and beardsley and staunton
and bought a welsh shepard by the name of saunders which
turned out to be the biggest fuck up since 1966
how can a manager be so bad sort me out with his cash and 
i guarantee a championship side
then the tosser from scotland faked a heart attack so he wouldnt get 
fired what a lowdown trick that was


















sorry i had to go to the toilet
he then bought a crappy brickheaded black who is weedier than
a nettle (walters) and insisted in putting him in the first team
at the expense of a huge fat skillful bast from denmark (molby)


his only good decision was the strip its kinda nice but dont ask
me where he got green when did you see liverpool play in green
you'd want to have had one fucked up TV
its like making blueberry pie with cauliflower

i dont think he could manage a shit without wetting his arse
i'm suprised he managed to pick up the phone when liverpool
rang him in glasgow and rangers have a lot to answer for all those
scots got together and let rangers win about 175 years in a row
so souness would seem good and they could get rid of the ould fart
 bye for now more later

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Latvia, round 12 and 13 (was: SOVIET: All ex-Soviet Leagues in 1992)
Summary: mistake
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:46:31 GMT

Thanks for the summary Pavel!

I now found out that the Latvian Championship did not finish after
11 rounds. These are the results from round 12 and 13, the last I
have.

Round 12
VEF Riga          0-0 Skonto Riga
Pardaugava Riga   1-0 RAF Yelgava
Olimpija Liepaja  3-0 Dilar Ilukste
Daugava Riga      0-0 BJSS Daugavpils
Starts Broceni    0-3 Vairogs Rezekne
Torpedo Riga      2-1 Gauja Valmiera

Round 13
Dilar             1-3 Skonto
RAF               1-0 Olimpija
Daugava           1-1 VEF
Vairogs           0-1 Pardaugava
Gauja             4-1 Starts
Daugavpils        1-1 Torpedo 
-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: dps@maths.tcd.ie (Padraic Murray)
Subject: taylor
Summary: no
Keywords: complete fart
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:04:16 GMT


taylor is crap he is the worst manager since souness
you thought eoin hand was bad then there was taylor soon to give
a rib tticklingly hilarious press conference
they should just stick a mic up his bum and let him talk crap
till he dies
"i'm happy with our play" thats like saying you were happy
you only got one knee kapped
"i think we'd have won had they not kicked our arses"
and arses they are every last one of them from Linekar to Seaman
now there's a name seaman thats like being called wetdream

what amazes me is how the brits can be happy with such a crap team
they actually think they're good!!!!!!!
its got a lot to do with those lickarses jimmy hill and trevor brooking
those two are such piss-takers they say they're happy with the play
and that england played well and should be a goalor two up when all
they did was packed the defence and hoofed everything out
the two boys must wet themselves laughing during the break thats why
we only see chest upwards cos their trousers are dripping
From: seanb@cs.man.ac.uk (Sean Bechhofer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Gerry Creaney Call Up?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:26:01 GMT

norr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil.orr) writes:

>As for Gerry Creaney, I don't think it would be wise to put him
>straight into the full international team for next week's game
>in Berne. He should be slotted in sometime during the campaign,
>perhaps against Estonia to give him some shooting practice. 
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*Please* don't say things like that. The great Gods of Football are just
waiting for this kind of remark, and before you know it, ZAM!, a late
penalty and the boys go down 1-0 to Estonia in front of a packed house.
Have you not learnt from the past? :-).

Cheers,

	Sean B
From: evans@pan.arc.nasa.gov (Dan Evans)
Subject: Re: Sportschannel and English League soccer
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:51:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.220508.22463@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna) writes:
>HAs SC started showing the weekly highlights?
>Prasad

They started to.  I caught the first (?) show on the weekend of Sept 5.
This last weeked (Sept 12) the T.V. Guide listing was claiming 'European 
Highlights' at 2:30 pm PST and 'English League Highlights' at 3:30.  
However, when 2:30 rolled around I had Bill Walsh going on about NCAA 
Football (this is American Football).  They followed that up with a 
some college game and there was no sign of the real footy.

Anyone else run into this problem or is it my local cable company
screwing me over?


Dan
From: trumble@src.dec.com (Bill Trumble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English results starvation
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:02:18 GMT
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center

To all those funny guys in the UK who have the time to post messages musing about
the decor at Highbury, taking the piss out of Celtic (or Rangers), wondering why
nothing is happening at Liverpool, or slagging off poor old Graham Taylor:

Please post some RESULTS instead/as well.

Apart from the opening Saturday, there have been next to no postings of English
scores except for the Premier League, and even there not every game. There are 
a lot of people stuck away in far-off parts STARVED of results, especially 
followers of teams in the Football League (Grimsby Town is mine) - bad enough 
being a second-class citizen in terms of league status, do we have to be 
s-c c's on rss as well?
        
Thanks a million. I'd do the same for you.



Bill Trumble
DEC-SRC
Palo Alto, CA
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English News: Hereford have 4 sent off!
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:31:40 GMT

England manager Graham Taylor has ordered three players supposedly unfit
for Wednesday's friendly in Spain to undergo a medical at headquarters.
Manchester United's Gary Pallister and Paul Ince and Mark Wright of Liverpool
were told to travel after rumours that their clubs were going to pull them out
Taylor, whose squad has been severely depleted by injuries, said he wanted a
second opinion from his own staff after the introduction of a new law by the FA
United boss Alex Ferguson said Taylor's assistant, Lawrie McMenemy had told him
Ince would definitely be playing if fit.

Premier:

MANCHESTER UTD 2-0 LEEDS UNITED
Manchester United exacted some revenge for last season's title disaster with a
convincing defeat of their major rivals.  Kanchelskis headed them ahead in the
28th minute after being superbly picked out by Ryan Giggs and Steve Bruce added
the second on the stroke of half-time.  The Red Devils sprayed the ball about
with ease and the outstanding Mark Hughes hit a post and forced two saves.
The irrepressible Eric Cantona went closest for Leeds, who lost Rod Wallace
with a hamstring injury that rules him out of England's friendly in Spain.

United's fourth win in a row leaves them in 4th place ...

Top:
                   P  W  D  L  F  A PTS
 1 Norwich City    7  5  1  1 14  9 16
 2 Coventry City   7  5  0  2  9  6 15
 3 Blackburn R     6  4  2  0 11  4 14
 4 Man Utd         7  4  1  2  8  6 13
 5 QPR             7  3  3  1  8  5 12
 6 Manchester C    7  3  2  2 11  8 11
 7 Middlesbrough   6  3  1  2 12  7 10
 8 Arsenal         7  3  1  3 10  9 10


Arsenal striker Ian Wright has been reported to the police for allegedly
making an offensive gesture to fans at Wimbledon on Saturday.

Arsenal defender Tony Adams and Leeds winger Rod Wallace have withdrawn from
the England squad for Wednesday's friendly with Spain.

BARCLAYS LEAGUE Division One

Derby County     3-4 Bristol City 12738

Division Two

Huddersfield     1-2 Bradford C    5883

Division Three

Northampton      1-1 Hereford      2668

Hereford finished the game with 7 men!!!
Andy Theodosiou and manager Greg Downs were sent off before nine-man Hereford
drew level through Simon Brain. Richard Jones and David Titterington were then
ordered off in the dying minutes.  Stuart Beavon scored for The Cobblers.
From: mswanson@oracle.com (Murray Swanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scotland Team for Berne
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:14:04 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


Can someone please post the Scotland team for Wednesday game vs Switzerland?

Thanks
Murray
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: USSF and back-pass rule
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:58:46 GMT

Garry Archer pointed out that he thought the USSF ratified the new rules...

Clarification :

	The USSF must accept the rules as laid out by FIFA in order to be a 
member. There are some *slight* modifications allowed, but the rules cannot be
accepted or not accepted. The timing of the implementations of the rules is 
flexible, however. Many associations implement the new rules at the full start
of their next season - sometimes this is several months after the changes have
come around.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: McManaman
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:51:57 GMT

Good to hear that McManaman is playing for England U21.
How does he perform withj Liverpool this season ?

Kelvin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Ukrainian League Round 3
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:54:47 GMT

Round 3
Tavria                2-1 Torpedo
Dinamo                2-1 Dnepr
Metallist K           6-0 Zarya
Shakhtyor             1-0 Kremen
Veres                 1-2 Chernomorets
Krivbass              0-1 Bukovina
Metallurg Z           3-0 Karpaty
Volyn                 2-1 Niva

In round 4, Torpedo Zaporozhe has beaten Dinamo Kiev 1-0 according
to the "Neues Volksblatt". No other results of last weekend yet.
-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "ECU" Kramer)
Subject: Re: John Harkes + Shef Wed News
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
					  ^
					 ^ ^
				More like Joan Ruddock...
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 22:41:55 GMT

AFC...The Boys from the Blackstock Road.
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Snatching Defeat From the Jaws of Victory
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:04:08 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Sep10.085922.18576@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
> Switzerland 3   Scotland 1
> 
> Knep     2,71   McCoist 15
> Bergy    85
> 
> Match report blah blah blah......(see also previous SJ post) 
> -- 
>  Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  abuse  031-554-9424
>  Spider Systems Limited     "...but Joe was to belie comparisons to all these
>  Edinburry                   men and introduce a new concept to Scottish
>  Scotland                    fitba' - a striker who could score a goal!!"

Seated in his iron deck-chair(cushioned), supping from a tin of McEwans Lager
and wearing the latest steel-framed specs with blue tinted lenses(MIM Ltd),
Scott was to belie comparisons.................

Chris