From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: ARF on NAAWP and Black Toys
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:49:25 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

 
 Article 37027 (17 more) in misc.headlines:
 Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,alt.conspiracy
 From: chrisb@seachg.uucp (Chris Blask)
 
 >As a dyed in the wool liberal (interpret all you want), I 
 absolutely abhor racism, but at the same time I can see (at 
 least one of) the points of our NAAWP friend......
 
 First of all, let me thank you for taking the time to think 
 through the issue and proving to the world that liberals, 
 just like conservatives are not all totally irrational.
 
 It was an excellent article and I agree with most of what 
 you said.  I will therefore respond only to statements with 
 which I disagree.
 
 >Ultimate goal:The ultimate goal of anti-racists is to 
 eliminate laws and attitudes which treat races differently. 
 These laws include anti-discrimination laws!  Any time you 
 create a rule which deals with people by race, you 
 perpetuate racism.... 
 
 followed by...
 
 >To fix something, you have to do all kinds of awful things 
 (create discriminatory laws and institutions), then slowly 
 remove those tools and stitches, until only a healthy body 
 is left behind.
 
 These two statements are self-contradictory and the root of 
 this whole discussion.  Fighting discrimination with 
 discrimination is like destroying the village to save it.
 
 I do not think the human race will ever overcome racism and 
 bigotry but public discrimination based on race can and must 
 be eliminated.  This is done by making it illegal not by 
 laws that discriminate against another race.
 
 The ultimate cure is to provide the black community with the 
 same advantages the white community had when it was 
 developing.  Unfortunately, population pressure makes that 
 just about impossible today and the only real solution is to 
 deal with the population problem.  It appears that the 
 underclass is growing faster than any other class and this 
 means that not only will there be more of them but it will 
 be increasingly harder to break out and the color or race of 
 the underclass has been permanently defined.
 
 >In a perfect world there would be no problem with magazines 
 "Ebony" and "Ivory", nor would there be much demand for 
 them. 
 
 In a perfect world, the market, not political correctness, 
 would determine the demand.
 
 > The time when groups like the NAACP should go is when they 
 no longer help achieve this goal, but become the problem
 (which may be soon, I don't know).  
 
 Precisely the same must apply to the NAAWP.
 
 >The result of this is David Duke and the NAAWP, reactionary 
 events feeding off the confusion and resentment, as opposed 
 to addressing the issue (I know nothing of the NAAWP, so 
 forgive me if it is legitimate).
 
 In his most recent re-incarnation, Duke merely represented 
 the views of much of the White community and deserved to be 
 listened to and debated with instead of receiving the 
 trashing he was served up by the knee-jerk media that seems 
 to be the great determiner of American value systems.
 
 Thank you again for your thoughtful remarks.
 
 js
 

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