HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Heybc.bnr.ca
Subject: Re: When is the best time to...
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:47:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.231653.13892@ntmtv> janet@ntmtv.UUCP (Janet Jakstys)
writes:
>I'm a bit confused on when to do certain bonsai activities.
>When is the best time to transplant?
>When is the best time to take cuttings?
>When is the best time to do major pruning?
>
>i.e. before, during, or after the growing season?
I have the same question in regard to a Hibiscus that I am 
growing. I can't find any reference to it in any books, and as it 
is a year round tropical, I'm not usre when teh growing season, or the
flowering season are defined.
BTW: I know why it isn't recommended as a bonsia: IT thinks it is 
     related to ruhbarb when it comes to leaf size;-)

Bill Crick
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tk)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: pomegranate
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:33:15 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com

In article 728076508@rwzl12, daane@sysmanzl.zld.rws.nl (Bert Daane) writes:
> 
> I have a pomegranate-tree (punica granatum) of 19 years old.
> It never blossomed and i wonder if it ever will.
> Is there anybody who knows how i can make it blossom ??
> Another question: is it possible to leave this tree outside at
> temperatures below 0 C (till about -5 C)?


It should not be exposed to temperatures colder than 10 degrees C (about 45-50 F)... 

According to my books, if you want flowers/fruit DO NOT prune after spring growth
even though the tree begins to look stingy or gangly.  Trim and prune *hard* after
flowering/fruit process is done to regain the desired compact appearance.

(I don't have experience with the pomegranate, I looked it up in two texts.)

Good luck!

 Tk
Xref: sparky alt.president.clinton:1871 alt.rush-limbaugh:15341
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton blows it twice in just 3 days!
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:45:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.president.clinton
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

>]	Clinton is stupid!  In the three days in office he has allowed gays in
>]the military and lifted the gag rule!

The writer of this is stupid.
Clinton has not yet allowed gays in the military. Nothing has changed yet,
except the intent of president to let gays in.

This guy posted this on Monday ... he probably heard the incorrect info from
his local preacher-man on Sunday.
Jesus.

Dan
deherrin@ucdavis.edu
From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: "It's the economy, stupid!"
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:10:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

> = vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>> = vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>> Is it me, or do these whining Republicans sound just like us liberals did
>> during 12 years of Reagenbush :D

>Uh...no. It's you. Garrett, your ability to shoot yourself in the foot
>continues to amaze me. At least you have finally conceded that all of the
>drivel that has ever oozed out of your little repugnant mouth is nothing but
>whining blather. The fact that you proudly display yourself as a liberal
>repulses me to no end... knowing that someone actually allowed into an American
>University. You continue to be the bastion of remarkable stupidity for the
>left. When it comes time for you to mature, look at what your messiah has done,
>most of which before he was even inaugurated. Then pick up a newspaper and look
>at what your failed ideology has done for the world: servitude, slavery,
>economic crisis, hunger, and hopelessness. Happy extinction, liberal worm.

You've made a fool of yourself.  No matter how much you think Garrett
sounds like a horse's ass, your last couple of sentences sound indeed
like the most hysterical whining.  Your obvious hatred of Clinton is
surpassed only by your amazing ability to condemn a president after his
first six days in office.  "Failed ideology", my ass.  Calm down and
face the music: Clinton is our president.  I strongly suspect he'll be
our president until January, 2001.  Live with it.

You want extinction...watch even the Republicans get rid of the moronic
far-right religious wing.  *You* look around today at the state of U.S.
race relations, then congratulate yourself for blindly supporting closet
bigots for office.  Happy defanging, conservative snake.

  

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Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: looks like Billary after all...
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:32:42 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

enough is enough. during the election i didn't care too much about
Hillary. after all, "She's not the one running for office", "George
listens to Bar, too" and "There's nothing wrong with a strong wife".

and those are mostly true. but now it seems she -was- running for
office. and good ol' slick is giving her one. an important one.
guess what? i don't mind. what i -do- mind, is that when we 
originally asked about what the !@#$ she was planning to do once she 
got in, our questions were deflected & looked down upon. now that it 
turns out they were legitimate, they're only useful one more case 
where "Jefferson" (*GAG*) has been less than completely honest.

i think it would be a good idea for someone to put a fishhook through
his tongue. then he wouldn't be able to talk so much & perhaps he'd
be more honest & forthright when he did.

jason

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`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu ,`,`,`
From: valdis@skat.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Top-10 List
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:57:24 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

Top-10 List of America's Reactions To Clinton's Administration (So Far):
---------------------------------------------------------------

10. Wondering if Labor Secretary Frank Reich was a munchkin in the "Wizard
    of Oz".

9. Saw Bill and Barbara Streisand together, and quickly were reminded of "The
   Way We Were".

8. Reminds them of a poor "R" rated movie: Too much sex and too much Gore.

7. Re-named their dogs "Shalala".

6. Burned their Fleetwood Mac & Michael Jackson albums.

5. Scared that Bill would turn West Hollywood into a military base.

4. Scared that Bill will sign executive order naming Jesse Jackson a the new
   Commissioner of Baseball.

3. Scared that Bill would appoint Charles Manson as Attorney General.

2. Just plain scared...

1. CANT'T WAIT TO VOTE FOR JACK KEMP IN'96!!


Valdis

Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,talk.origins
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Clinton`s flip-flop on China
Followup-To: talk.origins
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:34:07 GMT

In article <1jhl24INN61h@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
>"The main flaw of Creation Theory is that it depends too much on conjecture
>and miracles, and the main flaw of Evolution Theory is that it depends too
>much on conjecture and miracles."

The similarity between Santa Claus and a mouse is that they both have long
white beards, except for the mouse.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)

Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
From: bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu (Benjamin John McCall)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: A few words about Flip-Flops
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:59:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

paul@hsh.com writes:
>We listened.  And this is what we heard from his own lips:

>      -- Bill Clinton, "Putting People First" 6/20/92
>    --Clinton's first campaign advertisement, Jan 1992
>        Manchester, New Hampshire, 1/19/92                          

Perhaps you shouldn't have stopped listening in June!!!!!!

Ben
-- 
Ben McCall, Caltech - bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu
SEDS President, Technical Projects Coordinator
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Clinton blows it twice in just 3 days!
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:52:08 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1993Jan24.193840.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daniel Rouse, Jr.) writes:
]
]	Clinton is stupid!  In the three days in office he has allowed gays in
]the military and lifted the gag rule!
]
]	First of all, gays do not belong in the military...we need toughies,
]not pseudo-men.  Most gays are either effeminite or else they are like beasts
](in other words, they either are too compassionate or else they are all over
]everyone).  The military needs a balance of the two--which only hetrosexuals
]have.  Don't pull the "substitute black" reply because I'm referring to
]homosexuals of ALL RACES, COLORS, AND CREEDS.  They don't belong in the
]military!  A heterosexual has a more "stable" brain which can both be tough and
]be compassionate--a homosexual's brain has a disorder (as medical evidence has
]tried to prove to rationalize this irregular behavior) which prevents him/her
]from being both!

Either this guy left his terminal logged in and someone is making a fool
out of him, or he is bad at sarcasm, or he is a true idiot.

In any case, most of us who oppose open gays in the military do NOT
hold these views.
-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
"Modern liberals are the termites in the structure of our society."
  John Moore
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Special Prosecutor for Zoegate?
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:39:30 GMT

In article <22JAN199317242109@vxcrna.cern.ch>, casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:

> Hear hear!  Yes, I think all of Clinton's personal diaries and records going
> back to the beginning of the campaign should be laid bare.  There could be
> evidence of a conspiracy to cover-up this whole affair.  Who knows where it
> could lead - Warren Christopher, Secretary of State designate, was a 'senior
> transition official' - what is his role in all this?  Did he know the facts
> and attempt to hide them?  What about Al Gore - was he in the loop?
> Undoubtedly former DNC Chairman (and Commerce Secretary designate) Ron Brown was
> consulted about cabinet appointments - is he also implicated?  What about
> the high-ranking Democrats on the Judiciary Committee?  What about the shadowy
> figure of Hillary Clinton - surely she was present at meetings where the
> cover-up was planned.

No No No my friends, though we must investigate these shadowy people, we must
investigte further into he recesses of the Clinton administr...(I can't bring
myself to say it) and look at all the nominees who APPEAR to be completely
clean! We must look for any sort of infidels within the appointments! If they
APPEAR to be satisfactory, all the more for us to spend... uh no! INVEST in
investigations! We must do this to ensure that we have felt all their pain...

--Vince
From: barryb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Barry A T Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Flip-flop?!?
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:23:46 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1993Jan18.140800.5403@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>, ggoebel@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Garrett Goebel) writes:


|> 3) Isn't the budget the issue?
|> 
|> Foreign policy and economic stimulus aside, the best possible thing the
|> Clinton administration could do would be to cut the budget deficit.  If
|> that means dropping every single campaign promise to get the job done, he
|> will have proven himself a great President.
|> 
|> Really now, we should all know buy now that government intervention in
|> the market place means increased inefficiency.  

This is a point that conservatives like to "presume" has been proved.  If
anything the contrary is true - The Japanise, Korean and German governments
all take a very active government intervention policy.  Countrys that don't-
e.g Britain + America have less successful economys.

   If Clinton wanted to give
|> the country a real economic stimulus, he could do it by pushing for the
|> removal of restrictive regulations and taxes.  

This is what Bush+Regan had been promissing for 12 years.  IT CANNOT BE DONE!

|> 
|> The reason why the USA has traditionally been seen as the land of 
|> opportunity is because unlike other governments, the US has refrained
|> more than any other country from telling businesses and people how to
|> run their lives.  Less government = more freedom and opporunity.

More freedom, true but not neccesarly more prosperity or contentment.

|> 
|> 4)  On a closing note, how can you possibly expect an expansion of government
|> and spending to increase efficiency and reduce the deficit?
|> 
|> ggoebel
|> 
|> -- 
|> Garrett Goebel,8811500 <ggoebel@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: My man Al!
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:55:23 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <1jmfveINNiv@gilligan.East.Sun.COM>, mike@gilligan.East.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori) writes:
> So, did anyone else hear about Al Gore's little slip-up over
> at Monticello?
> 
> It was on one of the national wake-up whows here the other
> morning.
> 
> Apparently, Al Gore pointed to a portrait hung in one of the
> rooms in Thomas Jefferson's former home, and asked "Who's
> that?" to the amazement of those present.
> 
> It was a portrait of George Washington.
> 
> I haven't heard this story since that morning (I think it was
> Tuesday), but I thought it was pretty funny.

Please please PLEEEZ, can you recall the actual source of this?  The station, 
the date, and the time?

It's important!  Don't you see -- *he's* getting away with it.  You KNOW what 
would have happened if Dan Quayle had done that!  It would have made 
headlines in the nation's newspapers.  We MUST keep track of these Gore-isms.

I heard another one, in October:  Clinton and Gore went hiking in the woods, 
and Gore...got...lost!  The Secret Service had to go track him down, and 
bring him out.  Still trying to find the source of that one.

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ 

Paul Havemann   (Internet: paul@hsh.com)

   * They're not just opinions -- they're caffeine for the brain! *
         ** (Up to 50 milligrams per cynical observation.) **
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
From: kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards)
Subject: Re: Worst of the gala
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:29:24 GMT

csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:

>Speaking of the Hollywood Gala . . .

>Does anyone remember anything like this happening in 1981, 1985 or 1989?

>Either it didn't happen (which supports the conclusion that Hollywood is
>biased),

>Or it did and was not televised (which supports the conclusion that the
>networks are biased),

>Or I was somehow without a clue during those times (possible, but prove it).

You were without a clue. The Gala for Bush was the same kind of format with just
as many stars. I remember William F. Buckley's National Review making fun of the 
whole thing and complaining how embarrassing it was to watch the President
subjected to a particularly bad medly sung and danced by Nell Carter.  I had
hoped that we wouldn't be subjected to any such nonsense this year, but alas,
there were the Clintons and the Gores with the same forced smiles worn by the
Bushes and Quailes four years eariler.


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
   Ken Richards        |                | It's tragic that families can be 
 Logic Modeling Corp   |  kenr@lmc.com  | torn apart by something as simple
                       |                | as wild dogs.
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: wstuartj@lucky.ecn.purdue.edu (W Stuart Jones)
Subject: Re: Clinton blows it twice in just 3 days!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:58:29 GMT

cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Daniel Rouse, Jr.) writes:

>	And now for the gag rule!  Clinton should have left it.  My tax dollars
>fund federal clinics--and I don't want my tax dollars paying any practicioner
>who counsels someone on the ooption of abortion!  Abortion is not a natural
>method of birth--therefore, it should not exist...except for an emergency rape
>case!

I voted for Clinton and one reason I did is because I believe the Gag Rule is
fundamently wrong.  I am not pro-abortion but definately I am PRO-CHOICE.  You
acknowledge that abortion should be legal in an emergency rape case, yet, you
wouldn't let any nurse or hospital official discuss abortion with a women
who has been raped.  She would have to wait until she sees a doctor.  
OH, that makes a lot of sense!

The Gag Rule was just another episode in the never ending saga of Reagan/Bush
conservatives trying to side step Roe v. Wade from 1973.  On the 20 aniversary
of this land mark case I'm proud of the Clinton for taking the FIRST step to
make women more able to have an abortion when it is needed. 

This first step will no doubt be followed with actions to restrict protests
outside abortion clinics.  Anyone who doesn't think anti-abortion protesters 
impose on the civil rights of women trying to enter womans clinics needs to
study the Constitution of the US and the Bill of Rights.  As long as abortion 
is legal women must be given easy access to these clinics.
--
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%%  Wesley Stuart Jones         jonesw@res.wes.mot.com               	%%
%%                              wstuartj@ecn.purdue.edu                 %%
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From: dennist@sw.stratus.com (Dennis Tetreault)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Billary takes control of Health Care...
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:32:03 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydro.cac.stratus.com

OK. We all know that whoever is in the White House  WILL  talk to his
wife (or husband for you PC'ers) about his policies, and ideas. We all
knew that Hillary would be a much more influential advisor than the
cabinet members and aides. 

What gets me is that when they announced Hillary's new job, the White
House also faxed out 21(?) pages of articles about how she made changes
in the Education policies of Arkansas. In my view, this means she is 
qualified to help reshape the nation's schools, and offer opinions about
how they can be changed for the better. But the Sec. of Education (?)
should have final say.  

How does her experience with education qualify her to change Health
Care, when she hasn't the education to prescribe so much as an aspirin?

I believe that someone schooled in Health Care, The Surgeon General
in particular, should have been given this role.

But, what do they care. We're only the People.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, The President and Mr. Billary Clinton"

Just my opinion
Please post responses

The Dentist
dennist@zen.cac.stratus.com

Screw Responsibility! These are the Clinton Years!

(These are wholly MY opinions. Stratus does not share them)
From: csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: looks like Billary after all...
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:40:34 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <C1Hq6t.B28@athena.cs.uga.edu> heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes:

>You're so right. An well-developed mind like Hillary Clinton's would
>seve the country best in planning state dinners, wearing designer
>dresses, and buying china.  Sheesh. Who let the neaderthals out of the
>cave?

But she did so _well_ in the cookie bake off during the campaign! :-)

And frankly, some of us do not like the kind of liberal mind that Billary has
developed. Had she a well-developed conservative mind, on the other hand ...

-----
"The main flaw of Creation Theory is that it depends too much on conjecture
and miracles, and the main flaw of Evolution Theory is that it depends too
much on conjecture and miracles."
Craig Edward Smith (csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: willson@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Allen R. Willson)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Clinton blows            [?]
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:31:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


Sorry, I just had to do it.

hike 'em up fokes, it's gonna get deeper. . .
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: casey@thebe.ecn.purdue.edu (Kenneth H Casey)
Subject: Re: DON'T Confirm Les Aspen
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:08:04 GMT

lee@tellabs.com (Eric Lee) writes:

>I say Les Aspen should not be confirmed as Secretary of
>Defense until he can learn to say _nuclear_ instead of
>_nucular_ as he did throughout his confirmation hearings.

>Eric

That's an interesting thought, but if ability to speak fluent English was a criteria for being in
the executive branch, George Bush's occasional inability to speak in complete sentences may have
disqualified him from running for President.

I wonder if Rush Limbaugh will incorporate that pronunciation of 'nuclear' in his broadcasts the
same way he did with 'Governor Como' and 'daffizitt'.

Ken
--
casey@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
From: bcacciol@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Seventies Guy)
Subject: Re: Worst of the gala
Reply-To: bcacciol@1.com
Organization: none
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:24:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.222924.5248@cabezon.uucp>, kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken
Richards) writes:
> csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
> 
> >Speaking of the Hollywood Gala . . .
> 
> >Does anyone remember anything like this happening in 1981, 1985 or 1989?
> 
> >Either it didn't happen (which supports the conclusion that Hollywood is
> >biased),
> 
> >Or it did and was not televised (which supports the conclusion that the
> >networks are biased),
> 
> >Or I was somehow without a clue during those times (possible, but prove it).
> 
> You were without a clue. The Gala for Bush was the same kind of format
with just
> as many stars. I remember William F. Buckley's National Review making
fun of the 
> whole thing and complaining how embarrassing it was to watch the President
> subjected to a particularly bad medly sung and danced by Nell Carter.  I had


And let us all not forget the sight of the late Lee Atwater
strapping a Stratocaster on Mr. Bush (of the Kennebunkport Bushes).
with said Strat emblazoned with 'The Prez'...

bc
i still have my inaugural souvenir horner blues harp harmonica
emblazoned with 'citizen #233,098,666'

Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: My man Al!
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:16:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.145523.536@hsh.com> paul@hsh.com writes:
>
>Please please PLEEEZ, can you recall the actual source of this?  The station, 
>the date, and the time?
>
>It's important!  Don't you see -- *he's* getting away with it.  You KNOW what 
>would have happened if Dan Quayle had done that!  It would have made 
>headlines in the nation's newspapers.  We MUST keep track of these Gore-isms.

This was in the NY Times this week.  A blurb on the inauguration.





--
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President."
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