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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Fair Weather Fans (Dallas,etc)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:04:24 GMT
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In <1aib7eINNish@uwm.edu> caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter) writes:

>	Does anyone else notice the increased amount of Cowboys fans on the
>	net making their great predictions. Where were these fans during
>	the 1-15 season? Do fans who stuck with the teams through the bad
>	years like those band wagon jumpers? 

I was reading and occasionally posting to this group at that time.  What
did you expect, rosy predictions?   There was a lot of talk about
the Walker trade, Troy Aikman/Steve Walsh (some brain-dead people even
suggested Walsh was better), and a lot of JJ bashing.   How much stuff
did you expect?

>	                        I have been a fan of Minnesota for about 
>	12 years now, and I suffered through the 6-10 season, and enjoyed
>	the 11-5, and 2 10-6 seasons. I hate bandjumpers.

It's easier to be vocal when you're winning.  I'll say this: we didn't 
boo our Cowboys during those times like the fickle fans in other areas
do to their teams with regularity.   Now that the Cowboys are good, you
can't bash them so you go after the fans.  You should turn your attention
to the real boors (New York Giants fickle fans).

Dave
auwen@convex.com
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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Should Marv Levy Be Fired? (was Re: Dolphins Eat the Bills for Lunch)
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:27:29 GMT
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In <16877CC17.TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann) writes:
>     Actually you stupid fuck, I have been calling for the coaches head
>now for a long time.  I really hate when some ignorant rookie poster
>makes such a dumb ass statement.  What makes you think I'm in New York?
>How's Alabama grab you, shithead?  Why do you open your mouth?

Why do you assume I'm a rookie?  And why are you resorting to name calling?
Did I strike a nerve?  Does the truth hurt?  I've been reading and
posting to this group for quite awhile (~4 years) even back when it
was just rec.sport.football.

>       Let's see you get your big fat overpaid ass out on the field for
>a super bowl and see if you dont get emotional. 

You're giving me a good laugh, Tommy boy. 

Guys like Kelly and Elway will make a name for themselves when playing
weak AFC opponents but they are overemotional chokers when it comes to
the big game.   Compare that to the cool of the formerly great Joe
Montana and even you might get a glimmer of understanding.  Don't get
me wrong; I think Kelly is good.  But the great ones win super bowls.

Some quarterbacks have only 1 great year where they can do no wrong.
Ryp did it last year (he may not do it again).  I've observed that
these guys are usually pretty calm prior to the game.

>ps:  At least the Bills lost to a great team.  Thats more than your
>beloved Redskins can say. Can you say 2-2? Those chumps wont even

Why do you assume I'm a Redskins fan?  I'm a Cowboys fan but I see the
Bills for what they are: the Denver Broncos/Minnesota Vikings of the
90s.  Good but not good enough.  The biological clock is ticking; they
won't get many more chances before going down for a few years.

Thanks for giving me a good laugh, I only wish I could've seen your
face, dude!

;-)

Dave
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From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Rams
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.000518.20603@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:

(burp)
>
>You would think that would fire the 49ers defense up and allow them to
>stuff the Rams, but no. Everett brought the Rams right back down the
>field for the tying score, 24-24.

Rams had some luck here, too.  John Johnson tips pass on third and
long at midfield that Anderson catches for first down.  Good
defensive play, bad bounce.  The Niners D was getting beat by good
execution this time, not beating themselves with poor tackling as
in Buffalo game.
>
>All in all a pretty unimaginative game plan on the 49ers part. Until
>the fourth quarter the 49er played it too close to the vest and they
>almost ended up paying for it. Credit the Rams, though, for hanging
>in there and nearly pulling it out.

It was a great ball game all around.  These are the kind of games
the Niners lost last year, though they've always been in them, even
in their best years (remember how good they made Malone and
Pittsburgh look in '83?).  The Rams, no matter what their record,
are going to give Niners a tough time in the Stick, always have.

Mike
From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Franchise Player???
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:11:56 GMT
Organization: Houses of the Holy

In article <1992Sep30.061138.9714@netcom.com>, xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
> In <Bv3HxM.B6w@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
> 
> >If I were to start a franchise in the NFL and could have any player in the 
> >league I would want a type of player who can dominate a game offensively.
> >Such as the following:
> 
> >QB: Dan Marino
> >RB: Thurman Thomas or Barry Sanders
> >WR: Jerry Rice
> 
> Montana AND Lott or Cunningham AND White.  It was only a few years ago
> that the 'Fins were racking up big scores and *still* losing.  It could
> be argued that you'd have more success with a "franchise player" on D
> only, in fact.  Look at the Bear's superbowl team.  Singletary, almost

Ummm... Singletary, Wilber Marshall, Awesome William Perry, Richard
Dent....I dont think you can call this Singletary almost alone.


> alone.  (Don't try to convince me that their QB, whazzisname, had
> anything to do with it.)  Or look at the Eagles last year, with White on

Additionally Jim McMahon has one of the most killer instincts I have
ever known. He is a great leader on the field.  Even if he had nothing
to do with it; what about Walter Payton?

> defense, and *no* O!  
> 
> >Go Dolphins( 12-4 in 92 ) 
> 
> They might be able to do it, but only because they have a defense now. :-)


-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
From: frigo@blitzen.med.ge.com (Fred Frigo 5-5806)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer / Falcons Summary
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:29:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: mr.1992Oct5.172949.16051
Reply-To: frigo@opustech.com
Organization: Opus Technologies, Inc.   Brookfield, WI


The Packers lost to the Falcons 24 - 10 at the Georgia-Dome
in Atlanta.  It's sad to see another NFL city replace their 
natural grass field (even with the baseball dirt) for green 
plastic turf. 

Andre Rison burned the Packers for 2 TDs and Michael Pritchard 
caught another one to give the Falcons the win.   Atlanta's ground 
game was non-existant, but their passing attack was too much
for the Packers to handle even with the 4 man front, with a
single line backer and 6 DBs.

The Packers often used zone coverage on defense and got absolutely no
pressure on Atlanta's QB, Chris Miller, who just waited until
the receivers hit the seams in the zone.  The Packers had one or
two sacks.

The Packer's ground attack was based on Vince Workman who is 
on the verge of out-gaining the Packer's leading rusher from last year,
Darrell Thompson, after only 5 games.

Brett Favre was able to compile some impressive stats by throwing the
short high percentage passes, but when he went longer than 10
yards he had problems staying on target and/or slowing his velocity
down so his players could catch the ball.

Favre's only interception came early in the game when he drilled a
ball in to Sanjay Beach and it hit Beach's hands so hard that it
bounced 30 feet into the air, allowing Atlanta to pick it off.  

Chris Jacke missed an easy FG and seemed to be upset at Favre
with the placement. 

The Packers have a bye week to consider re-activating Don Majkowski
and Darrell Thompson.  Prediction:  Majkowski will start against the
Bears, but Workman will retain his starting role over Thompson.
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From: 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: STANDINGS, WEEK 4
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:18:26 GMT

In article <kemC=9a00WBN07Aih4@andrew.cmu.edu>, ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte) writes:

			 PF	PA
> Detroit       1-3-0    88     84
> 

I think this pretty much tells how close Detroit's games have been...

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:49:25 -0400 
From: Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: STEELERS ARE OVERRATED!

JGH says "Let's not play this if game"
Well, I get the impression that is what mostly happens here and
that is the major job of the Arm Chair quarterback, which I'm sure
we are in at least a little way.  The "if"s  is part of what
makes being a 7 day a week fan fun.  Yes, using if's won't change
anything.  Yes, if's can go both ways.  But it still fun to do.

And just in defense of my if, here's a header from Tuesday's USA
Today, "Woodson apologizes for Steelers' loss."  This basically
means that Woodson thought the same thing I thought.

                   TTFN
                        Chris
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (jon blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles/Cowboys
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:53:35 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt)
Organization: Your Organization Goes Here

In article <1992Oct6.131205.6976@exu.ericsson.se} lmcmasc@noah.ericsson.se (Mauro Schena) writes:
}to congratulate all the Eagle fans out there. I just hope you don't get
}too cocky because there is always the rematch in Texas stadium.
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I hope you don't get too cocky with the biggest and most useless .sig on
r.s.f.p.

-Jon
From: jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (Furry Bunny Feet)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Just noticed something...
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.bv-p_6l
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BvEC77.D9K@acsu.buffalo.edu> v077mdph@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:
>
>	I just looked at the football news on another group, and I noticed that
>Buffalo is the only 4-0 team in the league!  I guess that means that the much-
>maligned Buffalo Bills are in first place in the AFC East, the AFC, and the
>league, for that matter!  Since they won't lose to Miami, and won't lose much
>all season, I guess we can expect the Bills to be in first place for a while!
>It's a good thing for the Dolphins that they picked up Jackson:  They'll need
>all the help they can get!
>
>Snoopy
>CRUSH THE FISH!

	Since Miami, Dallas and Philly have only played 3 games, this actually
means nothing. All are 3-0. After this week there will be 2 undefeated teams.

destroy the bills. rip kelly's fucking heart out.
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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Subject: Vegas Lines
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:48:52 GMT


These are the latest odds for week 6 of the NFL.
Home team is CAPITALIZED
Favored team is on the left

Philadelphia    1   KANSAS CITY
San Francisco  16.5 NEW ENGLAND
DALLAS         16   Seattle
MIAMI          7.5  Atlanta
NY GIANTS      2.5  Phoenix
Pittsburgh     2.5  CLEVELAND
Buffalo        9    LA RAIDERS
Houston        6    CINCINNATI
NY Jets        3    INDIANAPOLIS
NEW ORLEANS    9    LA Rams
-------------------------------------
WASHINGTON     8.5  Denver

Open Date: Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, San Diego, Tampa Bay
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From:  ()
Subject: Re: Webster Slaughter status?
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:56:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.210251.19995@dazixco.ingr.com>, bob@cadnetix.COM ()
wrote:
> 
> What's Webster Slaughter's status for this week's game against Cincinatti?
> Will he start as stated in an earlier post? Thanks for the info ...
> 
	The Houston paper today said he is working with the team, learning the
offense.  He has a lot of it down, and Moon hopes to be comfortable with
him by the Bengals game.  Web probably will not start, but will see some
playing time at Leonrad Harris's spot.
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Buffalo
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:22:53 GMT


The Bills covered the spread, what will it be next week ???
If anyone finds it out early, please e-mail me... I'm getting rich !

--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dexter Carter
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:06:48 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <17855@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ksmoore@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu (Kevin S. Moore) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.135941.26975@menudo.uh.edu> st1ge@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
>>
>>     A newspaper here in Houston reported that the Oilers are interested
>>in obtaining Dexter Carter from the Niners.  They want to play him as a
>>slot receiver in the run & shoot.  It would be nice for the 49ers to get
>>rid of Carter since he will no doubt lose a lot of playing times to
>>Watters and Lee.  Any news from Niners fans out in the Bay Area?
>>
>>Edward Hui
>
>If the Niners can get rid of Dexter Carter, then by all means GET RID OF HIM!
>I have never understood how anybody 5'7" and 150 lbs. could be considered a
>running back.  Dexter Carter is essentially useless.  I say milk the Oilers
>for all they can get.
>Besides, Dexter is just the right size to be a Smurf, he should be a perfect
>addition to the Oilers...All he needs to do now is learn the official
>Smurf dance.

You 49er fans have never forgiven Dexter for being a number one draft pick 
have you? Dexter will do just fine as a situation back and kick returner for 
the Niners. That's what they drafted him for. Neither Watters nor Lee have his
hands or his speed. Remember too that Lee sat the Bench behind Carter for a 
year at FSU. Dexter Carter can play ball. He is not big enough to be an every 
down back in the NFL and I don't think anybody except maybe Seifert ever 
expected him to be. Watters is kicking butt and Lee is a very talented backup 
so Carter will sit for a while. The boy can fly though... line him up in a wing
or toss him the ball in the open field and sparks will fly. Remember that the 
last time the 49ers made the playoffs, Dexter Carter was their leading rusher! 
You guys amaze me in your inability to see the value of certain players in 
certain roles. You probably would have cut Ottis Anderson in before the 1990
season... you know the one in which he ran for 1000 yards and won Super Bowl 
MVP. Ottis Anderson was well past him prime then but he was properly used and 
Parcells rode him to the top.  That's just one of hundreds of examples of a 
player being used in a manner which emphasizes his strengths and the team 
benefiting greatly from it. I'm not saying we'll see Carter rush for 1000 yards 
of win Super Bowl MVP but used properly, he could do great things for the 
49ers.. or any other team... so put down your hatchet before you cut yourself!!




-- 
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: JJ's (was Re: Dallas *notepad**)
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:26:55 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <lcnmkgINN8bp@langtry.cs.utexas.edu> joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
>Other Cowboys JJ's include Jim Jeffcoat.  Did I forget anyone?

I'll never forget the time that Jeffcoat made a great defensive play and
a local Dallas sportscaster, in the heat of the moment, called him "Jeff
Jimcoat".  That's been my name for him to this day.

>-Joel Just
Hey, let's get a roster spot for this guy!

Daniel Welch
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Miami @ Buffalo
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:41:27 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville



      The next step has been taken!

                           -doug THE dolfan-
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From: skins-hater@virginia.edu (A Redskins Hater Trapped in Va)
Subject: REDSKINS HAW!@!@ HAW!@!@ HAW!@!@
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:55:27 GMT


dammit, i was in a convenience store and on the radio i heard the foreskins
were up 14-0, so i bailed out on this game. DOH!@!@ I cant believe i missed
such a classic redskins choke!@ good-bye super bowl glory. hello 7-9.

haw!@ HAW!@@!@ HAW!@!@!@!@
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Ed Marinaro question
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 20:52:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.113038.2262@vixvax.mgi.com> eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
>Where did Ed Marinaro play his college ball?

I believe it was Ithaca College
From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: STEELERS ARE OVERATED!!
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:01:45 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Well my friends.  I am a rabid Steeler fan, but today's embarrassment has
proved one thing.  The Steelers are a good ball team, but they are no way in
hell going to put up any kind of Eagle, Bills, or Redskins record.  Face it
the AFC is weak so there is a good chance the Steelers might get to the
playoffs even at 9-7.  The ride was a great, but it's over, yet there is
a chance that 5-1 is a possibilty.   Let's back the Steelers but don't expect
the world from them.
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From: iluvls@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (James E Parks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Fudge PACKERS
Date: 28 Sep 1992 20:34:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Originator: iluvls@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Do not get happy about the pack attack.
Brett Farve is not the "messiah".
He is to the packers what .......................
............ well, the "MAJIC" man was to the packers, a one year wonder,
if that.
We will have to wait about as long as Chicago Cub fans have to for a World
Serious (it's a joke) ring.



But hey, keep an eye on the Brewers, we just might have one winner from this
cheesey freak show.
  
     James :) (with love and kisses to packer fans)
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From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: AAFP Prediction Results Week 5
Date: 6 Oct 1992 13:32:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Well, for week 5, AAFP was 5 of 11, .455%.  Not too good.  Well, soon I
will have week 6 predictions.

Mike
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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Crowd Throws Objects, film at 11
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:08:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>If they throw things, simply remove the offending party from the game.  A
>repeat performance at a later game revokes season tickets, and a third time
>gets them banned from the stadium.  It's that easy.
>
>gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN, AVRON P)

it's that easy, huh?  care to volunteer to spend the entire game, every game,
watching the stands to identify the culprit?  it's _not_ easy at all.
you're left with a bunch of people who aren't sure who did it and don't
really care anyway.  picking a fan at random is not viable, either.

ok
dpm
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