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From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: EA Hotline
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:34:44 GMT

Does anyone know what's wrong with the Electronic Arts Hotline. I have been
calling about a game I sent in for work and I cant get through. Help??? 
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Brian Good				
Ball State University			
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: mrburges@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL RANDLE BURGESS)
Subject: Re: real game controllers
Originator: mrburges@c00800-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mrburges@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL RANDLE BURGESS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:03:26 GMT


>I'd definitely buy a "classic games" cartridge if it had Defender in it.
>But then again, I'd be really impressed to see a modern shooter using
>Defender's motion model.  Or some other game paying a similar amount of
>attention to simulating physics and making the interaction more involving.

Ever hear of Wing Commander? :)

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From: jamesh@pain.la.ca.us (James Hsiung)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Wanted: Lynx games
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:49:12 PDT
Organization: Public Access Info Network  (818/776-1447)

Wanted LYNX games anyone wants to get rid of!

Does anyone know a store with good LYNX support and maybe used LYNX 
games?



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Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: woodcock@crchh427.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Gregg Woodcock)
Subject: Re: New portable system to debut this fall!
Reply-To: woodcock@sdf.lonestar.org
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 15:40:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep04.133535.9293@uvmark.uucp>, palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman) writes:
|> According to the latest issue of GamePro, the Action Game Master from
|> Active Enterprises is due this fall. The machine with a flip-up 3.5 inch
|> color screen with play Nintendo, Super Nintendo and Genesis cartridges
|> (using special adaptors). The adaptors cost $50-70 and the unit $159.

Is it April already?  This report is one of the most ridiculous claims I
have ever heard (by chance is AE a subsidiary of Atari)!  Nobody in his
right mind would believe this blatant lie!  I don't understand how Gamepro
could even *consider* printing it (and how they kept from laughing out loud
when they heard it).  One small paragraph for Gamepro...One giant leap
forward in ineptitude and gullibility for humanity.
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THANX...Gregg   woodcock@sdf.lonestar.org   bn202@cleveland.freenet.edu
ESN 444   day 214.684.7380   night 214.530.2495   *I buy used Vectrex stuff!*
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From: andrew@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Wong)
Subject: SNES Stereo/Video cable...
Organization: Elec Eng, Univ of Western Australia
Date:  1 Sep 92 09:00:57 GMT

If you buy a SNES machine in Australia, they dont give you the stereo output
cable. You have to buy it = extra costs...

Does anyone know what the pinouts on the auxiliary output port are? (the one
with 12 card edge connectors)...  and while I'm on the issue,
what goes into the expansion slot underneath the SNES ?? What's available
now ? and in the future ?

Thanks in advance.
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: controlls
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:27:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <1992Sep04.135001.25278@bnr.ca>, woodcock@crchh427.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Gregg Woodcock) writes:
> 
> I think Atari screwed up Robotron by not coming up with
> a cheap second joypad that would fit over the button side of the Lynx
> and connect into the ComLynx port.  This would be packaged with a
> "dummy" joypad that would fit over the regular joypad side (to make the
> 2 sides identical).  Instant faithful reproduction of controls for only
> $15-$20 extra (retail) dollars.  At the current selling price of $12.99
> that is about $28-$33.

While I don't disagree that Robo would be better with dual joystick controls,
I doubt that any add on controller this cheap would last very long and the
fact is, the Lynx version of Robotron is a blast to play anyway.  If you are
holding off on buying the Lynx version because you think the controls can't
work very well, I assure you that this is not the case.  While not the ideal
situation of dual sticks, they work pretty suprisingly well in my opinion.

Ditto for Rampart.  The controls as adapted for the Lynx setup work very well.

Still, I hope the Jaguar will offer a trackball and other control options.

Steve
From: stephen@lsil.com (Stephen Lee 8941)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Question on CD-ROMS
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:11:46 GMT
Reply-To: stephen@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Microprocessor Group

Sorry to be so ignorant but are the Nintendo or Sega
CD-ROMS going to be a stand-alone system (direct output to tv)
or do they need to connect to a SNES or Genesis in order to work ?

Thanks for the info

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From: tominatr@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: TG-16 games for sale!
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:24:18 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

For Sale:

For the TG-16 system:

Dungeon Explorer, Legendary Axe 1 & 2


$15 each or all 3 for $40.

E-mail if interested.

       - Tom N.
From: greg@sys.uea.ac.uk (Greg Newton-Ingham)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Lynx v GameGear v Gameboy
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:33:56 GMT
Organization: School of Info. Systems, UEA, Norwich, UK
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1


Hi,

 Sorry if this is a frequently asked question.

	I'm looking for a portable games console for traveling around with on
trains etc. There seem to be 3 real choices Lynx, GameGear and Gameboy. I
would like peoples opinions on the suitability of the devices for this
kind of use and the range of games. The device will have to travel in my
rucksack most of the time and my train journeys tend to be about 3 hours
long. What differentiates the Lynx and the GameGear ?

thanks for any advice/opinion,

Greg Newton-Ingham
From: louis@netcom.com (Louis Chui)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: *NINTENDO IS FIGHTING AGAINST GAME COPIERS RIGHT NOW*
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:47:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Does anyone know if the US Custom is taking (or going to take) the same
kind of measure?

Thanks for any info.


-- 
Louis Chui 
Internet address: louis@netcom.COM   ( home )
                  louisc@lsil.com    ( work )
From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Why are game copiers illegal
Date: 25 Aug 92 05:19:18 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

In article <f4=n1fj.fletcher@netcom.com> fletcher@netcom.com (F. Sullivan Segal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.202653.17194@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>>I'm considering making a board that reads Lynx cartridges, spits them out
>>to a computer, and also allows a computer to load up some RAM that looks
>>like a cartridge to a Lynx.  Such a system could be be for pirating
>>activities... this is wrong.  BUT... such a system would have great
>>hacking value, too!  There is nothing wrong with that!
>>
>>						---Joel Kolstad
>
>The LYNX uses an RSA encryption algorithm.  I doubt that you could
>reverse the encryption in a reasonable amount of time. (Less than 
>a couple of hundred years.)
>
>--
>                           -F. Sullivan Segal
>_______________________________________________________________
> _
>/V\  E-Credibility:  (n -- ME) The unguaranteed likelyhood that
> '   the electronic mail you are reading is genuine rather than
>someone's made up crap.
>_______________________________________________________________
>Mail to: fletcher@netcom.com
>
  They have copied Lynx games... there are some packs of 'em going
around I think.
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From: mrburges@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL RANDLE BURGESS)
Subject: Re: Code to play bosses in SF2 for SNES??
Originator: mrburges@c00066-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mrburges@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL RANDLE BURGESS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:07:17 GMT


What ever came of the bloodtype code???
Was it just a rumor as well??

				MIKE B.
				NCSU
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: louis@netcom.com (Louis Chui)
Subject: Re: Why are game copiers illegal
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 00:36:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep1.221733.1938@leela.cs.orst.edu> hartja@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (-= Souther N. =-) writes:
>
>Some people are forgetting one thing about pirating on video game console games.
>The devices to do this are quite spendy, therefore not many people are going to
>being willing to shell out $500 just to play games.  I do have a copier device,
>but I didnt buy it just to play games for free.  Believe it or not, I did buy
>it to preview games and to be able to edit the games with out having to buy a
>limited device like a Game Genie.  And I have bought atleast 4 games in the time
>since I have had my copier (5 months).  

Just curious. How many games which you have "copied"? BTW, a friend of
mine bought his MGH for only $210 which is not too expensive when compare
to a $130 SNES set.


-- 
Louis Chui 
Internet address: louis@netcom.COM   ( home )
                  louisc@lsil.com    ( work )
From: tehyang@sal-sun104.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: A bad OMEN for the GENESIS from Japan
Date: 1 Sep 1992 11:53:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun104.usc.edu

In article <BtwKGs.DH4@apollo.hp.com> rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer) writes:
>>What is happening in Japan I believe is simply a concrete example of how the
>>GENESIS lacks quality in terms of games when compared to the SNES system.
>>You can say whatever you wish, but numbers don't lie. When sales drop off
>>there must be an underlying reason......

Despite what all you SNES fans say, I think that all signs are pointing to a 
much better future for the Genesis than the SNES.

There doesn't seem to be much quality stuff coming out for the SNES from now
until the Christmas season. For those of you who can't to play Axelay, Space
Mega Force, and Turtles 4, let me tell you that I've tried all those games
and none of them live up to all the hype. On the other hand Sega has a killer
line up of games that include Sonic 2 and Streets of Rage 2. And don't forget
the Sega-CD with its own lineup of impressive games. 

The delay of the SNES CD-ROM means that Nintendo will once again be playing
catch-up with Sega in the CD-ROM market. On a side note... I think that stuff
about Nintendo delaying the CD-ROM because of a poor market is all B*S. They
were never ready to release the CD-ROM in January 1993 in the first place.
Especially since they haven't even decided on the specs of the machine and no
games are ready for it. I think that they just announced the bogus release
date to discourage potential Sega-CD buyers.
 
And here is the clincher...if the Genesis is losing ground to the SNES, 
then why did two of Nintendo's most loyal 3rd party supporters, Konami and 
Capcom, decide to join the Sega camp?  When I heard this news I thought it
meant that Sega has won the war. Obviously Konami and Capcom are dissatisfied
with the SNES market and decided to cash in on the larger Genesis user base
in the US.

-Teh Kao
From: asl00@ccc.amdahl.com (Andrew Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Best versions of old games (Was :Re: Old games on new systems)
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:04:12 GMT
Reply-To: asl00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Andrew Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep2.134952.26561@hemlock.cray.com> kak1@cray.com (Kevin Kramer) writes:
>
>That is an excellent idea, I hope someone from nintendo is reading this,  (they
>should be they can get a lot of good ideas and input) I think that alot of
>people would buy such a cart.  Especially Defender and Warlords (and Asteroids
>and Missle Command . . .)  I was just playing Defender for the Coleco (which
>was made Atari, BTW) and it is really pretty well done.  They could really
>do a good job on one of the newer systems.  I was just playing Venture as
>well :-) lots 'o fun, I am suprised that I retained my old skill at these games.
>
>Kevin

IMHO, the 5200 version of Defender is the best conversion.  I had the Coleco
version and I didn't like it at all.  I've owned a Colecovision, 
Intellivision, Atari 2600/5200/7800, C64 and Atari 800.  If I were to 
sum up the best arcade conversions on these machines, they are:

Asteroids            Amiga PD
Berzerk              Atari 2600, 5200 (Both versions were good)
Burger Time          Intellivision (Not the most accurate, but most fun)
Carnival             Coleco
Centipede            Atari 5200 (With trackball)
Circus               Atari 2600
Defender             Atari 5200(400/800)
Donkey Kong          Coleco
Joust                Atari 7800
Lady Bug             Coleco
Mario Bros           C64
Missile Command      Atari 5200 (With trackball)
Mouse Trap           Coleco
Ms. Pacman           C64
Qbert                C64
Robotron             Atari 7800
Space Invaders       Amiga PD
Tapper               C64
Venture              Coleco
Zaxxon               Coleco, C64

There's more but that all I can remember for now.  I'd be very interested
in seeing other opinions.  This can help all collectors out there to find
the best (or close) versions of all classic games.


Andy
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From: whare@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Books?
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:59:19 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


	Does anyone here read books?Just wondering.

Also by the way, this thing on game copiers, you've forgotten
a very important point.When someone says they lose a 50 dollar
sale every time someone gets a game copied instead they forget 
that a heck of alot of people wouldn't have bought the game in 
the first place and that they're only getting it because it's
free. 

	Steve, brother of Antony.-- 
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From: csandrew@uxmail.ust.hk (Andrew Wat)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: EXTRA EXTRA Turtles IV Sucks EXTRA EXTRA.......NOT!
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:49:57 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

>>
>>  Let me start off by saying that this is the easiest game I have ever played.
>>My son(who is only 5 years old) and I(I am 25 years old) Finished the game
>>on hard the second time we played in less   than 33 minutes.
>
>I'll agree that the game is ridiculously easy. My brother and I beat
>it in roughly a half-hour on the hard level as well. But we were both
>quite satisfied with the graphics, sound, and gameplay. Konami did
>a good job....but the game should have been much harder.
>

Hey, has anybody finished the hard level with ONE player? I can't beat the
prehistoric turtle.

Andrew
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From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video,alt.games.lynx,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Lynx Batman 2 MILLION SELLOUT!!!!
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:22:38 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep3.165936.18423@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>Atari may have sold 2 mill. Batman Returns carts, but they did not sell to
>Joe Schmo, they sold them to game distributors.  Every store that carrys
>Lynx games that I know of (about 9 or 10) has lots of copys of B.R. in stock.
>... I would really like to know how well it is selling to the consumer.

  Hmmm. Most of the retailers I know usually get 5-6 copies of a new Lynx game
at a time, and I don't think BATMAN RETURNS was an exception. In any event, my
friends in the retailer business keep taking about brisk sales of BATMAN
RETURNS. Not exactly the kill-your-fellow-video-player-for-a-copy mania of
STREET FIGHTER II for the SNES (grin), but enough for them to order more
copies.

                                                --R.J.
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From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Super Star Wars vs. Arcade Star Wars
Summary: You can skip this if you don't like flames. I'm pissed off big time.
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:07:40 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

Souther N. writes:
>I write
>>What's a copier file?
>
>a copier file is what a Game Doctor device makes (binary).  If you do not know
>what a Game Doctor is please read older articles in this news group instead of
>wasting bandwidth on posting questions about subjects already talked (argued)
>about on r.g.v.  

Pardon me for asking.... FYI, articles *do* expire, and I wasn't aware that
I was wasting the precious bandwidth. Of course, I care not a twit about
that at all .... me, who tries to edit out as much extraneous and redundant
material as possible; me, who *does* read to the end of a thread before
posting what could possibly be repeated info.

As for wasting bandwidth, I just got through wading through the latest
installment of your continuing saga in the "[SF/SNES] Games for Sale"
thread. Have you ever heard of email? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TALK DOWN
TO ME ABOUT WASTING BANDWIDTH ON A RELEVANT SUBJECT WHEN YOU ARE SPOUTING
'COMEBACKS' I HAVEN'T HEARD SINCE I WAS A SUMMER DAY-CAMP COUNSELOR?!?

Take a chill, get a life, catch a clue, and drop a quarter (did I forget
any adolescent put-downs?)

For the rest of you out in net@large, to make sure this article is a justified
waste, err ... use of bandwidth, can someone EMAIL me a summary of the Game
Doctor? Thanks in advance for both putting up with Souther N's rantings and
my rebut.
-- 
The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
choose from.
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Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: SFII endings?
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:44:50 GMT
Keywords: ending sfii SNES

In article <1536@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> flor@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Nick Flor) writes:
>>In article <1239@tecsun1.etl.army.mil> carleton@tecsun1.etl.army.mil (Daniel Carleton) writes:
>>
>>must be for each charachter's ending.  I am particularly curious about 
>>the Wedding music that is probably guiles.
>
>Here are the endings in order of preference:

Ok, but what about the bosses' endings? Obviously, this only applies to TCE.
I've seen Bison's, and all four bosses are pictured in it. Is there one ending
for all four bosses?


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: cwalters@ducvax.auburn.edu (The Honky Avenger)
Subject: Recommendations for NES adventure games needed
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Auburn University--Auburn, AL
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:50:00 GMT

Hi!

I just got my hands on a Nintendo system, and I was wondering if
anyone out there can recommend some adventure-type games for me.
I've played "Final Fantasy," "Robin Hood" and the new 25th
Anniversary "Star Trek."  Can anyone else suggest some good ones?
It would be expensive to go rent the things unti l I found a few
good ones :)

Please e-mail me, because I don't get the chance to read this board much.

Thanks..

Christian
cwalters@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:03:50 GMT
Subject: Re: game copiers
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.games.video

In rec.games.video, bovine@engin.umich.edu (Mitchell Rohde) writes:

>   I do NOT feel that $60-$70 for a game is "worth" it....

Don't buy them.  Read a book.  Learn to draw.  
Video games are a very small part of life.  You have other options.

> 
>  in fact, I really have to stretch to actually break down and
>  buy a game for my pc for $45 or so... and that only for a game
>  like Ultima that requires thinking and has a total playing time
>  of 3-4 weeks in actual man-hours to complete it....
> 
>  I would NOT spend $60 for a Super Mario Bros. 15 or some dumb stuff like
>  the majority of the games...

Good for you.  You have demonstrated a significant moral superiority.
Now go out and change the world.

> 
>  It used to be bad in the old days when I paid $30 for an atari 2600 
>  game....

Ah yes, the old days.  Well, I would say that you can still get
games with the graphic and gameplay quality of those games for
$30 or less.  Inflation and technology do not sit still.

>   and it made headlines in the papers when PAC MAN the cartridge 
>  came out....
>   and Hudsons had early boxes of them for $75 a piece...
> 
>  now the dumb Neo-Geo owners pay $160 for a game...
>  PLEASE! 
> 
>   And as to the guy who was estimating costs for the memory, do not
>  consider what we pay for a meg simm as comparable to what nintendo
>  does.... I doubt the memory has to be that fast... and they probably
>  only pay $2 or so a meg.... we are MASSIVELY ripped off for memory in the
>  home pc market...

Oh, there is no question whatsoever that nintendo is gouging.
Buy a turbo graphics.   Their games tend to be much cheaper.

But noone compels you to buy the stuff.

doug
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Super Smash TV...
Keywords: SNES Super Smash TV wanted
Organization: Saint Mary's University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:00:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.194256.16696@cc.gatech.edu> daver@raker.cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) writes:

>The subject pretty much says it all:  does anyone have a copy of
>Super Smash TV they'd like to sell?

>David Rosenbaum
>daver@cc.gatech.edu
dont waste your time