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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Addr: Deep Space Nine
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:37:46 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <19921016.125602.RCUTSHAL@VUNET>, RCUTSHAL@VUNET.VINU.EDU writes:
> Does anyone have any info on the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine series
> that will begin airing soon?  I feel like I'm in a black hole on this
> new series.
> Rex Cutshall
> <RCUTSHAL@VUNET.VINU.EDU>

Try the rec.arts.startrek.* hierarchy.  There's grundles of discussion
about DS9, especially in r.a.s.current.

Well, maybe not *grundles*, but the FAQL's were just posted, and most
information gets there pretty fast.
> 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: will sf channel survive? (but what you don't know is...)
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:34:38 GMT

In article <CHARLES.92Oct9121827@netcom.netcom.com> charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski) writes:
>SF channel won't survive becuase not enough people get it?!?!
>I think that unlikly.  
>
>How many people here get Main Street TV?  Or Channel America or Nostalgia
>or E! or FLIX or The Family Network (not the Family channel) or the
>International Channel or the Learning Channel??  Or even Comedy Central
>for that matter?  All of these channels have survived (some have been on
>for years) quite well even though most cable don't carry them.
>
>I hope you don't think for a minute that Sci-Fi and the Cartoon Channel 
>are the only two channels your cable campany isn't carrying.  There's 
>at lease 20 more plus the ones above out there.  I didn't even touch the
>sports or shopping channels.
>
>Seeing as Sci-Fi started out in more markets than most of the channels
>I've mentioned I don't think it's going to be folding.  In fact within
>a year I expect the other sci-fi channel to be on. (I forget the name,
>I think it's a company from texas)  And I'm sure they'll both do well.

I too hope that this will be true. I also get E! and Nostalgia, and I would
gladly give both of them up to get the Sci Fi channel. Also, The Family
Channel, VH-1, The Learning Channel, Lifetime, and several others.

I hope for a day when you can pick the channels you wish to recieve from 
a full menu of available choices. And only pay for what you recieve.
But this will probably never come to pass. Especially with the Cable
Bill going into effect...

Why the hell does E! exist anyway? Isn't there enough worthless entertainment
fluff and promotion without it?

					--Judex--
From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: This weeks episode was *not* a smart idea.
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:06:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct7.060608.14015
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team  (We're Trained Professionals)

In article <1992Oct7.045250.22453@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>Sam is always Sam. He always has his own abilities. When he leaped
>into a blind man, he wasn't blind. When he leaps into old people,
>he doesn't have arthritis, etc.

  And when he leaps into a pregnant woman, he's not pregnant.  Or was he?
  Waitaminnit... :)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Alf
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:46:20 GMT

In article <j880867@pro-smof.cts.com> wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher) writes:
>  Have there been any talk of wrapping up the loose end to the show Alf.
>----
>ProLine:  rfletcher@pro-smof
>Internet: rfletcher@pro-smof.cts.com
>UUCP:     crash!pro-smof!rfletcher
>ARPA:     crash!pro-smof!rfletcher@nosc.mil
>

Or any talk of the other half of the animated Alf's, "Melmac Memories" being
re-run? Family channel was showing "Alf Tales", but I thought the "MM"'s
were far superior.

					--Judex--

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:26:04 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Oct15.172025.28590@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mhammond@bnr.ca (Mike Hammond) writes:

>Of course not. I mean, you'd never see anything like rec.arts.drwho, would
>you? Or an entire rec.arts.startrek.* hierarchy, either. There just would
>not be enough support in a CFV to get support for these, and there would
>not be enough support in a CFV to create rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap or
>rec.arts.quantum-leap either!

These days I'm not sure you would.
rec.arts.startrek.* doesn't really count because it covers subject matter
encompassing 2 (soon to be 3) TV shows, 6 movies, and a cartoon.... Among
other things.
rec.arts.drwho probably would not survive a formal vote today, but the
group existed before the current voting process ever existed so here it
is, like it or not. That isn't an excuse to create a similar aberation.

-Geoff
--
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                        "I think I'm going to be sick!"
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:27:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct15.202724.13027
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:

>In <1992Oct15.141722.16486@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

>>alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) writes:

>>>_WILL_ there be a rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?

>>    I seriously doubt it. There is just no way that a single television
>>show would get enough support in a CFV to get its own rec.arts.* group.

>What about Star Trek and Doctor Who?
>(Two immensely popular shows, much more so than QL, I admit, but still...)

    You know it is amazing how easy it is to get people to take the bait ;->

    There have been at least 5 replies to my message above about not
getting enough support for a group about a single TV show, and all of
them are trying to site r.a.startrek.* and r.a.drwho as precedent. But
this just doesn't work. These 2 examples are anomalies to my statement
because both of them existed as groups before there was a rec.art.* and
before there was such a thing as a CFV. But this has come up in at least
10 other occasions since the first QL was shown, and the fact remains
that there will not be enough YES votes to couteract the NO votes on a
CFV for a single tv show. It has been tried in the past, and it just
doesn't work. Alt.* groups are fine, because people don't really care
about them, but not a mainstream group.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: TV Highlander
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:58:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct7.120042.14901@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay) writes:
>In article <BvpJ96.J42@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
>>This is something I have been worried about. Most shows made from movies
>>blindly follow the same format as the original movie and never grow.
>
>>How about episodes devoted to Duncan's problems with living longer than
>>his mortal friends and girlfriends?
>
>	Doesn't this question contradict the previous statement?  (Didn't
>we already go through the immortal-mortal friend/love problems through
>Connor (Conner?) in the original?  I'm sure we'll see it in the series, too, 
>though.


No.

We saw little pieces of this in flashbacks.

I`m talking about real-time. If it`s a flashback, have the entire show
be about that. Not just a little two minute spurt, and then go on to
killing the bad guy of the week.

Flip

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL: Sam's body leaping/Novel spoilers (spoilers removed)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:40:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.212850.2273@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> kickstart@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:

>From what you've been saying, it sounds like Don B. is a real stickler for the
>rules.

Yeah. Usually. When he feels like it. :-)

>rule, which really surprised me.  I would have thought Belisario would have
>really looked the book over before finally okaying it.  

Whoa, major misconception #28. Don never saw it. He has no control
over the merchandising. Universal can do whatever it wants with the QL
name, and there's nothing Don can do about it. Heck, they didn't even
tell Don when the novels came out in England -- the fans told him, and
he glowered and muttered that he wasn't even getting any money out of it!

>Are the QL novels going to continue?  

Probably depends on how well this one sells.

>Who knows, maybe we're all just investigating this too closely.

That's for sure. :-)

Sally
-- 
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I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones)
Subject: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Nowhere to Run
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:22:27 GMT

HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:

Spoilers

>  As the subject line says, I did like this episode, but...

>  1.  The instant Kiki went to read Sam's palm, I knew they were going to be
>    "involved."
>  2.  Given (1), the divorcing wife bit was also obvious.
>  3.  Sam getting up and decking the jerk attendant was also obvious from a
>     mile off (I still enjoyed it, though).

>  In short, the whole plot was pretty easy to see from the first 10 minutes.

Which pretty much sums up what I meant to say in the first place.  Now,
to be fair, I hadn't expected the reverse psychology shtick, but I did
know he was gonna drag him out of the pool 'cause the leapee couldn't.

I went back and saw my tape of Nowhere to Run, and no I didn't miss
anything.  And I should have done that before writing my review.  But
to call this an A episode in the face of at least a dozen episodes
that were clearly so much better (start with every one by Deborah Pratt,
and keep going...), is just viewing the show through rose-colored
glasses.

Jeremy Billones				billones@grebyn.com
From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: Re: QL: This weeks episode was *not* a smart idea.
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:54:13 GMT

thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:

>I *still* wasn't happy abuot the episode though.  But, maybe I just
>havent' been paying enough attention.  I always thought that he seemed
>to have some of the attributes of the person that he was leaped into.
>I thought that he *was* blind when he was in the blind man.

Not until the incident with the camera.  (I'm being deliberately vague.)

>He *definitely*
>whined about his back when he was pregnant.  (Does'nt that seem odd to say ;)

He leaped into the mother.  He didn't leap into the child.  The child
may have, due to the remapping done by the aura, a quantum link to the
mother forward at the Project.

>And when he was in the handicapped person he seemed to have problems 
>with his motor functions.  But, like I said, maybe I just wasn't paying
>enough attention maybe he was just trying hard at keeping those attributes
>up so that no one would know it was him.  *shrug*  I always thought it was
>his *mind* that leaped into the body.. not his body as well.. I'm very 
>confused about the whole thing..

Well the mind is part of it.  As in Lee Harvey Oswald, not all the mind
had left.  In the case of Jimmy (the "handicapped" person you mention),
perhaps some of Jimmy's mental attributes stuck around.

Now if you want to see something strange, rewatch Shock Theatre.

>Can't argue with Sally can we?                       :)
>Alex

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~~~~~~~~~~~~ aberigan@nde.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: This weeks episode was *not* a smart idea.
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:43:35 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA

I have seen "Jimmy" cited as a counter-example of Sam keeping his
normal abilities when he leaps into someone.  I can't stand it.

   thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:

   >And when he was in the handicapped person he seemed to have
   >problems with his motor functions.  But, like I said, maybe I just
   >wasn't paying enough attention maybe he was just trying hard at
   >keeping those attributes up so that no one would know it was him.
   >*shrug* I always thought it was his *mind* that leaped into the
   >body.. not his body as well.. I'm very confused about the whole
   >thing..

In my humble opinion (IMHO), you miss the whole point of that
magnificent episode.  Sam was completely  normal, with all his
faculties.  He was reacting entirely to the expectations of the people
around him.  One accident, and he found himself being hyper-careful
with the things around him.  As frequently happens, this resulted in
more accidents.  For you or me, this would be a bad day; for everyone
around Jimmy, it was "proof" that he was retarded.

How many people do we keep in bondage to a label?  How many "retarded"
people would function near normally, with their reactions a bit slow,
perhaps, if those around them would cut them the same amount of slack
they cut each other (or a twelve year old child)?

"Jimmy" packs its power because Sam was still Sam.  He seemed retarded
because the people around him treated him that way.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 10:43:28 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

> No spoilers for the series premiere... just an opinion.
> 
> I liked it.
> 
> This surprised the hell out of me.
> 
> For all those who were severely underwhelmed by his role in War of the Worlds
> Adrian Paul can ACT, and hold his own with Christopher Lambert.  Richard Moll
> as the Kurgan stand-in, was vastly underused, but had a tongue-flappingly
> good time.
> 
> The series takes place before the first movie, so there are plenty of
> immortals roaming about, and it completely ignores Highlander 2: The Quest
> For More Money.  That should be a plus in anyone's book.
> 
> Just one question for those who saw it... after the end of this episode,
> where can they go from here for the rest of the season?

Well based on seeing the preview show, it seems that they will bring more
baddies against Duncan, both mortal and immortal.  That is not every story
will include a fight to the death with an evil immortal.  There will be those
but there will also be Duncan going against a mortal bad guy.  But all the
bad guys will be very evil and very bigger than life.  The kid also has a
part in the series to, so I guess we will see what they do with him.  They 
will also do a lot of flashback stuff so we can just have adventures in 
different points in Duncan's life.  The preview show interviewed on of the
costumers and she said that she was looking forward to all the period stuff
that they will be doing.  So it looks like a good show.  I think Christopher
Lambert's role in the premier was to pretty much connect it to the film and
hand over the baton to Adrien Paul, this was done very well.  I'm looking
forward to more episodes.  Oh the guy coreographing the fight scenes is
the same fencing master that did the movies, and has done this stuff since
the days of Errol Flynn.  This sounds really good.  I thought the sword fight
scenes were very well done.


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From: charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: will sf channel survive? (but what you don't know is...)
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:18:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.CHARLES.92Oct9121827
	<1992Oct5.114817.29756@cas.org> <1aqj2qINN3lr@early-bird.think.com>
	<mtpins.718341437@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Organization: Gizmonic Institute, SOL Division

SF channel won't survive becuase not enough people get it?!?!
I think that unlikly.  

How many people here get Main Street TV?  Or Channel America or Nostalgia
or E! or FLIX or The Family Network (not the Family channel) or the
International Channel or the Learning Channel??  Or even Comedy Central
for that matter?  All of these channels have survived (some have been on
for years) quite well even though most cable don't carry them.

I hope you don't think for a minute that Sci-Fi and the Cartoon Channel 
are the only two channels your cable campany isn't carrying.  There's 
at lease 20 more plus the ones above out there.  I didn't even touch the
sports or shopping channels.

Seeing as Sci-Fi started out in more markets than most of the channels
I've mentioned I don't think it's going to be folding.  In fact within
a year I expect the other sci-fi channel to be on. (I forget the name,
I think it's a company from texas)  And I'm sure they'll both do well.





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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: c150-ff@po.berkeley.edu (Christopher Chan)
Subject: Battlestar Galactica: Conclusion?
Summary: a request for info
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:53:26 GMT


Hi!

	Does anyone out there know how the televison series Battlestar
Galactica ended?  Did they reach Earth?

	Thanks in advance,
	
		Christopher Chan
From: larne@canetoad.UUCP (Larne Pekowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL is bogus!
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:52:43 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

In article <Bw4C3G.G8y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Mark Shaw <mshaw@uiuc.edu> writes:
>How come Sam never feels the effects of what he was feeling or doing from
>one leap to the next?  For example, at the end of one emotionally trying
>leap, he can instantly recover when he leaps into someone new.  And when
>he's running a lot or getting beat up, why isn't he tired in the next
>leap?  What happens when he leaps at the end of a day into the morning
>and has to stay awake for another 12 hours or so?  - doesn't he get tired?
>
>The fact that Sam's awareness is discontinuous between leaps is bogus...

Why?  The leaps are _not_ instantaneous, there may be a gap of several
weeks between the time Sam leaps out of one situation and into another
(ref: "Genesis").  What happens during that time is completely unknown.
It is safe to say that his mind is somewhat scrambled by each leap (ref:
"The Leap Back", and others).  So he may not even remember the experience
he just went through, and so would not necessarily be affected by it.

It has also been speculated that his body goes through some kind of
recovery while in limbo, and any damage would be undone.  It's even
possible (although as far as I know I'm the first to suggest this)
that the leap process restores Sam's physical condition to the exact
state he was in when he first leapt.  This would not only heal
him of anything and take care of exhaustion, but would also mean
that he's not aging during all this.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Another question on War of the Worlds
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:02:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1b898vINNr0m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
>How many seasons di the show last?  I say 2, but my friends swear up and 
>down that it was 3?  HELP!

Two.  And the difference between the two seasons is really obvious (i.e.
the second season premiere comes on, and BOOM goes the entire format).
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From: ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:34:31 GMT

hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

>kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes) writes:

>>I don't know why not.  There have to be at least 150 leapers here and I
>>would vote for it just to get it out of this newsgroup.

>    One of the problems that is currently taking hold in UseNet is this
>attitude above. The "I would vote YES just so I don't have to see it
>anymore" sentiment is probably the worst reason to create a group.
>Voting YES for a newsgroup is the same as saying "I like this group, and
>plan on reading it if it is created." If this is not the way you feel,
>then you should either vote NO or not vote at all, otherwise you are
>basically lying.


Thats YOUR opinion only.

Often when a subject becomes so 'specialized' that it becomes impossible
to ignore it or kill the subjects a splinter group is justified.
Many forsale/marketplace are created with the express purpose of getting
the articles out of the main group. 

Some REAL world examples:
The creation of rec.pets.birds was voted yes by many rec.birds because
   they were tired of the pet bird articles (many rec.birds readers
   are radically anti-pet-bird.

The creation of rec.arts.comics.xmen was supported by many people to
get rid of the enormous number of X-men posts in rac.  That was
because the x-men posters were posting the articles such that it was
next to impossible to kill the posts; the posters would use as subjects
various characters in the books and would change them often.
The situation DOES NOT apply to Quantom Leap whose posters generally
use QL or Quantum in the subjects.

The creation of rec.travel.air was orginally proposed as a way
to get the discussions of cheap air fares and ticket sales out of
rec.travel.  Now that rec.travel.air is formed people who don't
want to see for sale notices are trying to create rec.travel.marketplace.

CAUTION on forming of new groups: often a system administrator will
not get a new group so you can lose out supporting a split.

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