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From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: BIG SAMPLERS (100MB or more) anyone have info?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:09:53 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

hogan@sound (Kharim Hogan) writes:

> What are the samplers with large memory capacity? We are looking
> for those in the order of 100 MB or more. Note that  we're
> referring to RAM not hard disk. Keyboard magazine (Mar. '89)
> lists Synclavier 9600 with 96MB and Waveframe AudioFrame with
> 120MB. Are there any others?

Hmmmmm...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....


HHHmmmmm...............


nope.


Actually, perhaps the Fairlight, but I think the closest maxes out at 64MB,
which is the Kurz K-2000.
<X>orcist

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From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Wendy Carlos, where are you???
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9210141909.AA02828


Not sour grapes from me, guy.  I really don't give a shit about how emotionally
strained Wendy was when she was Walter.  Her attitudes which are reflected
in the last series of Keybunk interviews suggest she is the one with a
sour grapes problem.  Clearly, my choice of words was not Politically Correct,
but it did reflect my opinion.  I think that Wendy Carlos is exhibiting a
classic case of 'penis envy'.  It isn't my fault that she once had penis and
decided to get rid of it.  That, in my opinion, leaves her especially open
for this kind of comment.  

By the way, if you haven't noticed I kinda like treading on sacred cows.  In
this period of listening to Clinton/Gore rhetoric and watching the imbecile
American public eat it up I get more prone to venting.  Sure as shit, all you
have to do is mention the sex change in anything other than reverence and
you can get a rise out of this newsgroup.  Funny thing, I am a sensitive person,except, of course, when I can be Pollitically Incorrect.

John
From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:46:35 GMT
Subject: CEM Chips Source
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

Neal Howard wrote that he had read that Curtis Electromusic chips were
available from:

     Doug Curtis
     On-Chip Systems
     1190 Coleman Ave.
     San Jose, CA 95110
     (408)988-5400

Out of curiosity, I called this number, and indeed, they are!  Doug Curtis
is the founder of Curtis Electromusic, and the entire CEM line is still
available, and they will sell to hobbyists in onesies and twosies.  For
quantities less than 100, the price is $15 per chip.  The numbers available
are:
CEM3310 CEM3312 CEM3320 CEM3328 CEM3330 CEM3335 CEM3340 CEM3350 CEM3365
CEM3372 CEM3374 CEM3378 CEM3379 CEM3387 CEM3389 CEM3391 CEM3394 CEM3396

Some of these I hadn't heard of before, and the person I spoke to said that
they are still adding parts to the line!  She's sending me an order form,
and I hope to order a catalog or databook.  I'll post what I discover.

                       Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                     Oh Hannu, this is most unbusinesslike.

From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:36:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Clavinet Example (was: Re: Keyboard feel (was: Re: CZ101 for sale)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:


>In article <9210051853.AA04984@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes...
>> 
>>About the most 'famous' clavinet example is the song Superstition by
>>Stevie Wonder.  The whole thing is Clavinet with whammy bar.
>Gee, John, was there a hardware mod to the Clavinet to give it a whammy bar?
>Neither of mine have it, and I don't recall there being one in the data sheets
>even as high as the model E7.  Of course, it was probably a third party like
>Dyno-My-Piano or somesuch.  Still, I never heard of it.

Made by a third party called Castle, the Castle Bar replaced the right-hand
"nut" of the Clavinet, and had a long bar extending out of the instrument
which functioned on all 61 strings at once.  Cost something like $500.
A KEYBOARD mag soundpage winner in the mid-80's used one extensively.

>I think that Superstition may just be a stock Clavinet with a wah-wah or
>similar effector.

You're right.  No whammy bar, and a wah-wah.

                       Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                     Oh Hannu, this is most unbusinesslike.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Subject: K2000 intermittent fix
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:28:35 GMT

I saw the fellow's post the other day from Denmark regarding the K2000
and intermittent problems.

I shot a copy of it to David Fox (via Mike Ward on Compusrve) who is
a Kurzweil/Young Chang product specialist.

Here's his reply (oh... and you can mail to him directly by sending
email to 75300.2272@compuserve.com):

Pete Lyall

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Here's your (his) reply.....
 
    16905 S6/YC/Kurzweil  [MIDIAVEN]
     14-Oct-92  13:35:31
 Sb: #16899-K2000 problem
 Fm: David Fox 75300,2272
 To: Mike Ward -Sysop 76703,2013
 
I have no idea what the stuck notes problem may be. However, the other
problems are caused by the RAM being corrupted. The temporary solution is to
pull out the batteries and allow the RAM to drain out the battery backed power
fow a few minutes. Then replace the batteries. When you power up, you will see
the screen asking if you want to hard reset or run diagnostics. Just press
enter at this point and the machine will reboot.
 
This problem has been known to occur occasionally and has been traced to a
hardware problem. The problem will not consistently happen - you could turn on
the unit 1000 times and never have it happen. The chip that fixes the problem
is included in the 1.29 upgrade, so if you have your unit updated, the problem
will be taken care of.


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From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: metlay/eirikur fooled by vfx-sd
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:55:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <9210101933.AA15350@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>					 I really believe that a K2000 can
>get more analog than even an Xpander because of the inherent limitations in 
>the Xpander's engine

	Hmmmmmm, you're treading on thin ice here, pal.  From what I've read
here about the K2000's analog capabilities it does _not_ sound like it's more
analog-capable than an Xpander.  Now, I won't argue that you can probably get
a larger variety of sounds starting with basic analog material due to VAST,
but more *analog* than the Xpander?  A digital synth??  Errrmmmmghhhh...

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:07:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Arp Odyssey correction

>From:         "(Toni Miettinen)" <tonim@MITS.MDATA.FI>

> The following text was taken from "The Whole Synthesizer Guide":

> "The Odyssey synthesizer features a 3-octave monophonic keyboard.
>  Left-hand controls are ARP's PPC (proportional pitch control) system,
>  pressure-sensitive pads that bend pitch positively or negatively, and
>  introduce vibrato. Two VCOs, an LFO, and a VC low-pass filter are
>  supplied. A high-pass filter is included to remove low harmonics
>  from sounds. The filter can controlled from an ADSR envelope generator,
>  and the VCA is controlled from an AR envelope generator. Sample & hold,
>  a ring modulator, and a noise generator are provided.
>  First released in 1972. No longer manufactured. Last list price:
>  1.700 USD."

Correction: both envelope generators, the AR and the ADSR, can control
either or both the filter and the VCA.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: martel@marvin.mr.sintef.no (Paulo Martel)
Subject: Re: Wendy Carlos, where are you???
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:54:52 GMT

JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:


>Not sour grapes from me, guy.  I really don't give a shit about how emotionally
>strained Wendy was when she was Walter.  Her attitudes which are reflected
>in the last series of Keybunk interviews suggest she is the one with a
>sour grapes problem.  Clearly, my choice of words was not Politically Correct,
>but it did reflect my opinion.  I think that Wendy Carlos is exhibiting a
>classic case of 'penis envy'.  It isn't my fault that she once had penis and
>decided to get rid of it.  That, in my opinion, leaves her especially open
>for this kind of comment.  

>By the way, if you haven't noticed I kinda like treading on sacred cows.  In
>this period of listening to Clinton/Gore rhetoric and watching the imbecile
>American public eat it up I get more prone to venting.  Sure as shit, all you
>have to do is mention the sex change in anything other than reverence and
>you can get a rise out of this newsgroup.  Funny thing, I am a sensitive person,except, of course, when I can be Pollitically Incorrect.

Funny indeed... You are incorrect, yes, but not Pollitically. You are incorrect
in bringing politics and Wendy's sexuality into this trend. I don't give a
dam about Wendy's sexuality, I just like a lot what she is doing musically.
She has lots of interesting ideas, and she can combine the use of cutting edge
technology with a fine artistic sensitivity. Yes, she does her work with 
painstaking accuracy and has very high standards. What the problem,  does
that bother you ? 
As for the sour grapes problem, I really cannot see it in the two last Keyboard
entreviews she gave... even less the "penis envy", altough you might know your
Freud better than I know mine.

Give us a break

Paulo

>John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: henryf@imagine.com (Henry Flurry)
Subject: Need cheap master kybd: Roland A-30 good?
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:38:01 GMT

I'm thinking of purchasing a Roland A-30 master keyboard (list $795).

In all honesty, I'm looking for a controller without all of the special  
functionality, since it will be used mostly be someone who doesn't play  
piano - he needs it mostly for simple input to a sequencer, one track at  
a time.

Even the A-30 seems like tremendous overkill, but I'm having a hard time  
finding anything less expensive.

My goals are:
  - few, if any, controls to mess things up.
  - velocity sensitive
  - better then organ "feel"

Nice touches, but not necessary:
  - pitch bend
  - after touch

I'd consider a low priced synths, if it fulfilled the first set of  
goals.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks much!

- Henry Flurry
From: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com (Craig Barnes - Sun UK - Senior Systems Admin N + SW Group Regio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ynth suggestio
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:36:40 GMT
Reply-To: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems



The Ensoniq ESQ-1 will fit the bill perfectly....

8 track
Multi timbral
Digital OSC with analogue filters
Easy to use and edit.
8 bit
Key velocity disable
Good controller
Tape sync
Midi sync


Get one with V3.5 Operating system and 20,000 note sequencer card on board. 

Also if you can find one, get the SQ80, it's the same machine with more sound sources and a DISK drive for storage.

Craig


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: de@cray.com (Duane Eitzen)
Subject: Wavestation puzzle
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:54:10 CDT

Heres a fun puzzle for the WS owners out there:

Describe a way to get a sound to trigger on keyup. (You can replace
"trigger" with "start"). An example of how this might be used is on
the noise a harpsicord makes when you release a key.

I know a couple solutions (each with some drawbacks) which I'll post later.

Duane.
From: saltzman@ISOVAX (Bob Saltzman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Best entry for new synth user?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:26:04 GMT
Reply-To: saltzman@ISOVAX
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

Keyboard gurus:

I have been toying with investing in a keyboard for quite some time.  I 
have 2 dozen years of keyboard experience but am not and do not intend 
to be a performer.  I am very computer oriented (in my work as well as 
home) and have an IBM PC running Cakewalk Pro and some Dr.  T's 
software.  I received a gift of a crude Casio MT650 (minimal 'consumer' 
system with some MIDI capability) but find it obviously inadequate.  My 
goals would be some composing and personal satisfaction of generating 
sounds and playing music.  

So the question is what would be the 'best' entry keyboard?  I have 
constantly found myself looking at the Korg M1 (while really wanting the 
O1).  The M1 seems to be mainstream with lots of sound software/firmware 
available.  (I am only discouraged that there are twice as many sounds 
in the rack-mountable M3 and don't understand why they are not included 
in the M1.) The cost of the M1 seems reasonable also - it is tough to
justify much over $1000-1500 for personal gratification.  

In any event, this novice is open to suggestions on which way I might go 
to get started.  And if M1 is it, I would certainly considered 
purchasing one used from a netnews subscriber who might have one for 
sale (I tried a few weeks ago, but the young man sold it before I knew 
it).  

If this in not appropriate discussion for the newsgroup, please
send email replies directly to saltzman@crd.ge.com

Thanks very much in advance for any help.

Bob Saltzman
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From: CRISRB@RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL (CRI/CD/OS; Rene de Bie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: unfortunately I must ask this!
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:41:03 GMT
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:41:00 EDT
From:         WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject:      Re: K2000 failures
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

[rumour about K2000 failures at very high level deleted]

Nobody that I know has had a K2000 failure. Even the ones that run
Installing the fan is probably a good idea, though. One problem that
the hot ones (no fan) seem to have is that their batteries run down
faster.  Young/Chang require the fan be installed if any options such
as more the 4meg sample RAM, internal hard drive, etc. are on board.

Bill Scott
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DIck Hynman is my father..
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:46:27 GMT
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Acess Unix - Dallas, Tx..


hello... I have the orignal moog album... I also have another one (not
DICK) called Country MOOG... its okay...too.

-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622 
SysAdmin <-> Super Dimension Fortress PAU 
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org
From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Asking the experts about MIDI songs
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:58:31 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Oct5.234731.12281@smsc.sony.com> (rec.music.synth), dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Oct2.182315.19359@netcom.com>, metlay@netcom.com (metlay) writes:
> |> The thing I'm wondering is, has anyone actually picked up the phone and
> |> called Trycho Tunes or one of those other big MIDIfile houses and ASKED
> |> them if they pay royalties? My bet is that they do, probably at the same
> |> rate per copy sold as a band would do for selling a CD with a cover of
> |> another artist's work on it. Pennies per disk, but enough to keep the 
> |> legal end straight. Anyone know for sure?
> 
> With this suggestion, I actually picked up the phone and called Trycho
> Tunes and talked to Steve Kern.
> 
> Steve told me that they pay the same licensing fees and royalties as an
> artist or group recording a song does, and in the same way.  He said
> that they have to be able to tangibly count the number of copies of
> anything that they sell.
> 
> He went on to say that the music publishing industry is up in arms
> about people making MIDI files of published songs and uploading them to
> BBSes.  Basically, they feel that these MIDI files are "performances",
> and are subject to the same fees as a live or recorded performance.
> 
> Obviously, this also applies to MOD, digitized music files, and
> other file formats for music, not just MIDI files.
> 
> I wonder myself if they might try to impose the same type of payment
> system that clubs currently use on BBSes and ftp sites.  That is, the
> site operator would pay a fee to allow music files to be downloaded
> from the site.
> 
> --
> ...David Elliott
> ...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
> ...(408)944-4073
> ..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
> 

Actually having to pay a fee is not such a bad thing.  Many act like
it should be avoided at all costs when in fact the amont can be pennies
in some cases.

Thanks for calling and letting us know.

David
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 8-bit 16-bit
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:27:12 GMT
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA


In this discussion, some people brought up the topic of noise, and
compared the quality of 8-bit digital sound to that of a compact
audio cassette.

In a DSP workshop on Tuesday at ICMC, Perry Cook brought out the
point that digital noise doesn't exist without signal.  Since this
noise really exists as harmonic distortion, this is reasonable.

Now, it is certainly the case that many digital recordings have
noise during the "silent" parts, but they don't have to.  If the
sound data were to be fed to a "noise gate" processor, the silent
parts, even in an 8-bit recording, could be truly silent.  (Obviously,
a "good" noise gate algorithm must be used, but if you have the
data in a file, it's reasonably easy to do a good job without having
to resort to the analog noise gating tricks.)

This doesn't seem to be true of a cassette.  There's always going to be
some tape hiss in the silent parts, even with Dolby and dbx.

Am I off base here?

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
From: vulcan@spartacus.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Whitman [SparcTech])
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Where to get Curtis ICs
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:32:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: spartacus

In article <27300054@trsvax> pauls@trsvax.tandy.com writes:
>
>Ok, one more time.....
>
>CEM chips are available from:
>
>Doug Curtis
>On-Chip Systems
>1190 Coleman Ave
>San Jose, CA 95110
>(408)-988-5400
>
>

Actually, interestingly enough, some of older Curtis chips are a few bucks
less expensive from PAIA. Curtis is selling all their chips for $15.00,
regardless of functionality, PAIA had some of the same chips for under 
15.00. 

Jeff
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Looking for SYNTAR Schematics
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 21:19:57 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Does ANYBODY have Schematics for the 1981 synth, the SYNTAR?  I'm in need 
of them very very badly.
 
Any help would appreciated!
 
Five
From: dnibby@asylum.UUCP (Dana Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: ynth suggestio
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:23:14 GMT
Organization: Epilogue Technology Corp.

Ok, here's my last synth recommendation request for awhile.
(Won't we all be a lot happier when I find the right synth
for me and my price range?)

  Here's what I need:

    * multi-timbral
    * 8 track sequencer 
    * don't need velocity sensitive keyboard (hell, I'd disable
      it if I had a keyboard w/that feature) or any other fancy
      keyboard sensitivity. Although a joystick would be a big
      plus.

    * don't need piano sounds or orchestral sounds
    * 8-bit sound is ok I suppose, but I'm worried about the
      low decibel output. 16-bit would help.
    * would help if it accepted waveform cards. what is the
      least expensive synth(s) that accept waveform cards?
    
    * Price should be in $400-600 range used.

        I'll primarily be using the synth for techno/industrial
   dance music. It would help if the synth produced something
   similar to analog sounds. I'm not a purist, and even if they
   remotely resemble analog, that should be fine. As I've said 
   before, I have a 16-bit drum machine to take care of
   percussion, and will use samples from my Amiga.


  Dana
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger)
Subject: TG77 stereo separation
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:53:03 GMT



	I am having a problem with my TG77.  I am trying to make
a special tape from it of a duet.  I want each part located exclusively
in its own channel, top part only in right, bottom only in left stereo
channel.   This is no problem.
	However, when I try to add a bit of room reverb for presence,
the channel separation is lost.  I have tried assigning voices to
group one and group two and every other trick I can think of or
find in the manual.  When any of the reverb effects are added I lose
the stereo separation in direct proportion to the amount of reverb
blended in with the stereo routed around.  I have tried effects both
in the voice menu and in the multi menu, all types of static pan
assignments I can find, all manner of effects settings etc.

No effects = perfect separation.
Effects on  = channels mixed.

	Any suggestions on what I am missing, doing wrong, not
understanding?   Thanks in advance.

mike@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu