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Subject: Highlander: Series and third movieJust some comments about the new series, and about the possible
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 11:15:30 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

third Highlander movie that everybody keeps talking about.
 
     The first episode of the series was excellant.  Not as good as
the original movie, but that's to be expected.  It was, thankfully,
better than the second movie.
 
     I liked the fact that the Prize was explained as the power of all
the Immortals.  This supports somthing I've always thought about the
movie: the lights and floating when an immortal kills another immortal
is the victor absorbing his opponent's power.  This is why everything
explodes when Conner kills Kurgen: he absorbs the power of every one of
the Immortals that Kurgen has killed.
 
     The time-period of the show: I'd put it in the early 80's, before
the first movie.  That took place in 1986("I'd like to ask you about a
six-foot lunatic with a broadsword in 1986, New York" - or somthing
like that, said by Brenda).  The presence of so many older model cars
suggests this to me.  I think the reason that Conner is about is be-
cause Russel Nash is about to inherit the anitique store, but Conner
has to spend some time away before he can take a new identity, give
the neighbors time to forget him.
 
     Adrian Paul was very good as Duncan.  He has excellent fencing
skills, and carried himself well.  He brings out that sense of the
"otherness" that Lambert gave Conner in the movie.
 
     The only bad thing about the series is the potential for a guest
star "Bad Immortal of the Week" plot line developing.  I had hoped
that Moll would stay around awhile as Slan Quince.  I expect there will
be many episodes without other Immortals, just swashbuckling super-hero
adventure, which wouldn't be bad.  I'm hoping to see Duncan studying
the nature of his Immortality and how the Immortals came to be(as long
as Zeist is completely ignored!).  It would be nice also to have some
other "super-natural" beings appear occasionally.  The Highlander meets
the vampire Lestat, maybe? :-)
 
     Finally, a note on the third movie: Someone posted earlier the
possibility that the three immortals in #3 were buried on holy ground,
which explains how they were left out of the "There can be only One"
equation.  I'd like to see these three setting themselves up as some
kind of pagan gods in an old abandoned monastery.  Conner attempts to
kill all three, but in the process they are buried under the abbey.
Since they can't die, but can't get out, they go into a kind of coma.
Then an archeological dig uncovers them, and suddenly there are now
four Immortals, which causes Conner to lose the Prize and forcing him
to go through the Quickening again, relearning his powers.
 
     Anyway, that's what I think of the series and the potential of
the third movie.  Questions on e-mail, comments/flames on the net,
please.  Thanks for your time.
                              Jim
From: finifter@remus.rutgers.edu (tracy e. finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Sam's body leaping/Novel spoilers
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:33:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

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I liked the book more than I thought I would.  I got confused between the
body/mind leaping thing, and I still think the author got it wrong.  As for
the scenes back at the Project, I really think the author did a good job
developing the characters.

I thought the fight between Al and Tina was especially well done.  It left
me really feeling for Al, empathizing for him.  I like QL best when we're
learning about really goes on with the characters, and this did just that.
And the other mentions of when Al was in Vietnam and about Sam's brother
also got to me.  (Sorry, I'm just a sucker for a tear-jerker.  I cried during
"M.I.A.")


-- 
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 Tracy E. Finifter                         "Life is what happens to you while
  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu              you're busy making other plans."
  Douglass College, Rutgers University                          - John Lennon
From: CESIVA@SN01.SNCC.LSU.EDU (SIVA)
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Subject: (none)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:09:51 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University

signoff SFLOVERS Srinivasan Sivakumar
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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL: Prememption
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:17:07 GMT

In article <1aupb2INNbek@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>QL is getting preempted next week.  Damn politicians have decided
>to have a debate.  I hate election time.  First we have to deal

As if that's not bad enough, I think it's the VICE presidential debate.
Gag me with a potatoe. Sheesh, give the points to Gore and let's get
on with showing QL!!!

Sally
-- 
Sally Smith (510)790-0608  sallylb@netcom.com (I was sally@tardis.tymnet.com)
I'm unemployed--these opinions *must* be mine!
"Don't investigate this too closely." -- Don Bellisario, re: "Quantum Leap"
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Subject: Re: QL: Ideas on last episode
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <LAU.92Oct9171020@avila.ai.sri.com>, lau@avila (Stephen Lau) writes:
>
>Somebody a few messages ago came up with an idea for the last
>episode. I've always thought it would be interesting if the
>series ended with Sam leaping into himself to prevent himself
>from leaping in the first place.

Funny you should mention this -- the same idea occurred to me, too.

>If he doesn't leap does that
>mean all the people he helped orginally would never be helped?

Sam would leap.

SAM: I'm not leaping, Al.  I've lost [n] years of my life because of
	one careless decision, and now I've got a chance to change
	that!

AL: Think of all the people you've helped by stepping into that
	accelerator, Sam.  All that will be nullified if you don't
	leap.  All those wrongs put right will be wrong again.
	You're not the only one who has lost years from their life.
	But you are in a unique position to say `yes -- it was
	worth it' -- to really show that you'd do it again, knowing
	full well the consequences.  You've got to do it, Sam.

Sam-leaped-into-Sam steps into the chamber, and they leap together.
Sam-the-leapee leaps into his first adventure, and Sam-the-leaper is
bounced home.  [Insert tearful reunion scene here].  Roll credits,
the end.

BTW, I think the opening for this epsiode would be great, too:

Sam leaps, and realizes he's at PQL.

SAM: (seeing Al): Al!! I'm home!  I'm finally back!

Sam rushes up to Al to hug him, and his arms go right through Al,
hologram-style.

SAM: Oh, boy...

-- 
You unlock this door with the key of imagination.  Beyond it is another
dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone.
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From: aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan)
Subject: Re: QL: Prememption
Organization: Ord High School, Ord, NE
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:17:07 GMT

sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>>QL is getting preempted next week.  Damn politicians have decided
>>to have a debate.  I hate election time.  First we have to deal

>As if that's not bad enough, I think it's the VICE presidential debate.
>Gag me with a potatoe. Sheesh, give the points to Gore and let's get
>on with showing QL!!!

On Letterman, Tom Brokaw was on, and he mentioned that NBC would not
have anything to do with the debates, due to the rules used.  Something
about the candidates being able to choose the questioners/panel/something
beforehand.

So, maybe NBC won't be broadcasting the debates.  Wishful thinking, I
know.  If QL is preempted, when will it be rescheduled to?

>Sally Smith (510)790-0608  sallylb@netcom.com (I was sally@tardis.tymnet.com)

-- 
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~~~~~~~~~~~~ aberigan@nde.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
From: barry@jab.tucson.az.us (Barry Mishkind)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica: Conclusion?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 21:38:04 PDT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

c150-ff@po.berkeley.edu (Christopher Chan) writes:

> 
> Hi!
> 
> 	Does anyone out there know how the televison series Battlestar
> Galactica ended?  Did they reach Earth?
> 
> 	Thanks in advance,
> 	
> 		Christopher Chan

It was cancelled.... and, well, you get to use your imagination....


==================================================================
Barry Mishkind
barry@jab.tucson.az.us
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: QL: I liked this episode, but...[spoilers]
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:28:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


   Ooops!  I left the spoiler warning off the first time.  I hope I can
cancel the article but it's probably too late.  I'm sorry, I hope I haven't
ruined the show for anyone.  I repost the original, with spoiler warning.
Control-L
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In <1992Oct7.144033.12795@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu writes:

>   As the subject line says, I did like this episode, but...
> 
>   1.  The instant Kiki went to read Sam's palm, I knew they were going to be
>     "involved."
>   2.  Given (1), the divorcing wife bit was also obvious.
>   3.  Sam getting up and decking the jerk attendant was also obvious from a
>      mile off (I still enjoyed it, though).
> 
>   In short, the whole plot was pretty easy to see from the first 10 minutes.  
> Of course, by this I mean the "How is the problem resolved" as opposed to "Is
> the problem resolved".  The only part that really caught me off-guard was that
> there was no vicious confrontation in the bar between hippie peaceniks and the
> uniformed baby-killer (to apply derogatory images fairly).  Somehow I think in
> '68 even a wheelchair would not have prevented that sort of thing.  In fairness,
> such an event would have been distracting from the real plot, and I was glad it
> was left out.
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>   I don't mind simple plots.  But the obviousness of this one made me squirm a
> bit, even while I was otherwise enjoying the show.  Sort of a nit, I guess, but
> I did want to mention it.
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>   I thought Kiki was a babe.  Not "a very attractive woman",  but a babe.  
> Thank you.
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> semper fi,
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> Jammer Jim Miller 
> Texas A&M University '89 and '91
> ********************************************************************************
> * Speak for my employers?  They don't even know I exist!		       *
> *"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."*
> * "Power finds its way to those who take a stand.  Stand up, Ordinary Man."    *
> *      ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph 		               *
> ********************************************************************************


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
********************************************************************************
* Speak for my employers?  They don't even know I exist!		       *
*"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."*
* "Power finds its way to those who take a stand.  Stand up, Ordinary Man."    *
*      ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph 		               *
********************************************************************************
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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: QL: Prememption
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 07:59:16 PDT

In <1aupb2INNbek@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>
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>QL is getting preempted next week.  Damn politicians have decided
>to have a debate.  I hate election time.  First we have to deal
>with all those stupid commercials, now we have to deal with this.
>It's not local, BTW, it's an NBC decision.  They'll be putting
>Reasonable Doubts on at 8:30.

Yes, I guess a TV show is more important then getting information so one can
make an educated choice in Nov. is more important. 
.


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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: QL: This weeks episode was *not* a smart idea.
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:19:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.205142.7224@ms.uky.edu>, thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:
>Spoilers below by the way ...
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>I was *very* disappointed.  Sam was able to overcome the abilities
>of someone he was leaped into.  This can't happen.  If he is a 
>parapeligic then he is a parapeligic.  He's always had to adapt
>to the abilities of the person that he was in and work within those
>constraints.  I was *not* happy.  Maybe I'm wrong on this fact but
>I didn't think he was able to do stuff like that.
>
Huh? He wasn't retarded when he leaped into Jimmy; He wasn't blind
when he leaped into the piano player; he was more powerful and 
heavier than the big sister when he leaped into the 10 year old
(else she would have fallen down the well!) Sure he can do stuff like
that, he just tries not to show it so as not to mess up his mission.
From: dug@athena.cs.uga.edu (Douglas Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: Series and third movie
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:28:55 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <10873@cayman.COM> mccoy@cayman.com (Michael McCoy) writes:
>bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>
>- The first episode made several references to the "Old Ones," with an 
>implication that they were some sort of supervisory council for conflicts 
>between the immortals. (For example, Duncan told Conor he obtained 
>permission from the Old Ones to build his cabin on sacred ground.) The 
>existence of the Old Ones raises some interesting questions about the 
>origins of the immortals and the framework in which they compete.
>

Maybe I took this the wrong way, but I had the feeling that the 
"Old Ones" he spoke about were the Indian cheifs/shamans whose 
burial ground he was using.  The indian reference earlier in the movie
definitely demonstrated that he had respect for the indians (he was
living among them and in love with one).  The act of building a 
cabin on holy burial ground would certain fit the bill of something that
would have to be approved by the chiefs in the area.

dug
From: ANTHONYS@ucrvm2.BITNET ("Anthony R. Sanchez")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest   V17 #525
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:13:31 GMT


    I do agree about the effects that Sam's actions could cause in the present
timeline.  The smallest deviation would cause a ripple effect altering all
related actions after that.  But I don't think the writters should adhere to
this strict law:  Eventually Al, and the whole proyect, even himself,would
end up changing...a definite no no.

    I've come to the conclusion that rationalizing time travel is impossible,
you always end up contradicting yourself at one point or another.

                      Anthony.
From: psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S R Chisholm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Babylon 5
Summary: no series until *fall* 1993???
Keywords: B5
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:26:52 GMT
Reply-To: psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S R Chisholm)
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <67245@cup.portal.com> Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com writes:
>Following is a Post from GEnie that is copyright  J. Michael Straczynski
>which lists the stations that are part of the Warner Bros. Prime Time
>Network that will carry the new series Time Trax, Kung Fu: The Legend
>Continues, and the Babylon 5 movie (and planned series).

(So blame Mr. Straczynski, not Mr. Whiteside.-)

>Plans are for the two [other] series to start airing in January, 1993
>and the Babylon 5 movie to air in February, 1993 with a series to follow
>in the fall.

Huh?  The pilot airs in February, but the series doesn't come out until
September?  Ouch!

Paul S. R. Chisholm, AT&T Bell Laboratories/EasyLink Services,
att!pegasus!psrc, psrc@pegasus.att.com, AT&T Mail !psrchisholm
I'm not speaking for the company, I'm just speaking my mind.
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From: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Nowhere to Run
Reply-To: baylor@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:37:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.122838.25474@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, krk1@pyuxe.uucp (24228-knights) writes:
>> Spoilers for the 10/6 episode "Nowhere to Run"


>I give it an A for avoiding heavy-handed moralization, for
>NOT having a pat ending where the wife gets back together
>with the husband, and for letting Ron make his own way with
>Kiki rather than having Sam do all the work for him.
>My only gripe was the statement that Al sees Sam as Sam.
>I have no problem with this if there's an explanation:
>like maybe they upgraded the Imaging Chamber.  I have to
>assume that they are continually  working on the elements
>of the Project, but I'd like to see this discussed on the screen.

That jarred, but Al didn't say what he saw. Within continuity, 
he might have seen the guy try to get up and fail. Given what
we saw of Sam in the mirror, I'd say Al saw Ron's(Sam's) legs as 
though they were holograms (i.e. not having any relation in space 
to other solid objects) Remember, Al is used to thinking and
reacting FAST when necessary.

As for what you're replying to, I don't really see this as 
a triple plot, but rather the usual misdirection, as in 
"How the Tess was Won."  Ron had the ladies in hand, but Sam 
didn't know that. His only purpose was to save the other vet.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.tv:3969 rec.arts.tv:20025
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:02:06 EDT
From: Windsor A. Morgan <NHT@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
 <1992Oct15.182830.12081@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>

In article <1992Oct15.182830.12081@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com
(Kit Kimes) says:

>From article <1992Oct15.141722.16486@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by (Hades):
>> alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) asks:
>>>_WILL_ there be a rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?

>>     I seriously doubt it. There is just no way that a single television
>> show would get enough support in a CFV to get its own rec.arts.* group.

>I don't know why not.  There have to be at least 150 leapers here and I
>would vote for it just to get it out of this newsgroup.

Well, *many* QL watchers (myself included) voted *against* the proposed
creation of the QL newsgroup.  The reason this is being discussed now is
that the season has begun, and a lot of people are talking about it, (more
than normal).

As for the posters who mentioned rec.arts.startrek.* and rec.arts.drwho,
these shows have been around for over 25 years and have outgrown being
"just TV shows".  When Quantun Leap can say the same for itself
(figuratively), then perhaps it will deserve a newsgroup of its own.

'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: QL: NOwhere to Run (Possible Spoilers)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:54:22 GMT

eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:

>Possible minor spoilers...



>Okay, so we now know for certain that it's Sam's body, not his soul,
>karma, whatever, that's travelling through time.  Al sees Sam as Sam
>and the person in the Waiting Room as that person.  I can live with
>this.

   Hmmm... there seems to be a continuity oversight here..
either that, or you've misinterpreted Al's comments to Sam
in this episode.
   Remember the episode "What Price Gloria?"?  That was 
Sam's first leap into a woman, and Al had to go to a
psychiatrist because he was attracted to Sam because of
his appearance....
   Is this a contradiction, or d{d I miss something?

RC Carman

>I was waiting for the scene where Sam stood up and knocked that
>nozzle on the floor.  The only thing that could have made that
>more enjoyable was if it had been one of the Beckett Flying Noodle
>Kicks (tm).

>The scene in the bar between Sam and his "wife" was great.  All
>I could think of was Al going through the same thing with Beth.
>And the scene with Al bedside, talking about how they won't be
>forgotten and that there's a wall now with all the names of the
>victims of the war and "please, don't put another one there."
>I was in tears.

>I loved this episode and is one that I know I'll be able to watch
>again and again.


>Next week....

>


>Sam's on the wrong side of the law and there's trouble back at the 
>Project.  Looks like it's going to be another good one.


>-- 
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From: donnell@seahorse.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Alf: The Cartoon Series (Was: Re: Alf)
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:46:29 GMT

In article <7250@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.154620.16112@news2.cis.umn.edu>  
>donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>> Or any talk of the other half of the animated Alf's, "Melmac  
>Memories" being
>> re-run? Family channel was showing "Alf Tales", but I thought the  
>"MM"'s
>> were far superior.
>> 
>I disagree. I enjoyed the Alf cartoon (Melmac Memories), but
>thought Alf Tales was the best cartoon series since Rocky
>and Bullwinkle.  It combined wonderful parodies of movies
>and TV with parodies and plays on all sorts of other things
>(such as John Henry, redone as a chef who uses all natural
>food vs. one who uses a food processor).
>
>--
>Jim Mann            
>Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

To each their own. John Henry was incredible. But, for me, MM was even more
crazed. Ever see the one with the paleontologist, Dr. Hugo V. Egoburger?
Gordon has to create a dinosaur from a pile of bones his Vespa has been
stealing from the museum. Alf's talk of "Tunadactyls" and "Gouda-Saurus Rex",
, not to mention Egoburgers "Thesaurus" <The first dinossaur to realize
that some grunts had similar meanings> . "But the Tunadactyl evolved into
the Goudasaurus Rex during the casserole period. Don't you know about
the Big Oven theory?". The whole thing is a gem. 
Thinking about it, I wish they would show them all  again with the original
commercial breaks. Great theme song!

					--Judex--

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