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From: speedyj@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Justin Wickes)
Subject: Re: REVIEW ! Melbourne Parties !!!!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:46:36 GMT

Go for it Richie!
It's great to hear someone from the inside finally speak out against some
of the rip-offs in the Melbourne rave scene. I for one have been to a few
of the Right On One productions raves which have been shit - especially
the poor sound quality (Unity and Quadrant 4). 

I was also at Harmony the other week and you played brilliantly (even if
you didn't have the 'Something For Your Mind' remix). It was a low budget
production, but if the music's good and loud then you don't need cheap
gimmicks like 3-D glasses (which don't even work) or blow-up castles (that
punture easily) to create a great atmosphere.

Just one more thing - why, since we have to pay $15 - $30 admission to
these parties, do we have to then fork out money for water?
I remember the days of Lunatic Fringe and Kemistry when there were jugs of
iced water sitting on the bar for anyone to grab a glass and have a drink. 


Justin "Speedy J" Wickes

P.S - Richie, I notice you wrote your piece from Monash, could you mail me
the title of that song with the lyric "There's got to be a better day".
You know, it's a slow track with a bit of piano.
From: moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: James MARS ... is dead.
Keywords: MARS  103.1 FM
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:21:06 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support) writes:

> Spoke to Don Bolles, erstwhile MARS 103.1 FM DJ, last night at the local
> noisefest featuring Zeni Geva and Crash Worship.
>
> [ stuff... ]
>
> MARS FM, 1991-1992
> R.I.P.
>
>    - Greg
>
> P.S. And FUCK radio program directors, radio "Consultants" et al., up the ass

man..... I found out about MARS demise about 3 weeks ago and I think L.A. can
now be nuked. Not because MARS was some godlike station. It was ok. Too much
whistle blowing at times, but Don and others really played some fucking great
shit at times. Better then KROQ, the SHIT of the 90's. (I'm not jepordizing any
future relations with KROQ am I, heavens forbid... (The can suck my ass)).

So KXLU seems to be the only thing left for Los Angeles and that's scary...

San Francisco, although the scene is a bit more alive on the radio, is beginning
to really become desensitized in the cyberdustrial / techno field. Sure there
are the 30 minute COMMERCIAL mixes to please the little people, and some
college stations have a few shows, but when I first moved up here, the clubs
and radio stations were thriving on the stuff... now, for some fucking reason,
the scene is not really dying, but is not really taken seriously anymore.

I've been busting my ass off trying to book Stereotaxic Device and Dive up here
along with us, and the club owners just aren't into the scene to allow for such
a show. Seems that the clubs that do have cyberdustrial shows either have
someone in the band working at the club (no offense meant Christian), or will
play for nothing.

Unfortunately, I can't offer the latter solution for Stereotaxic and Dive, as
it costs money to tour and no money is an insult. Sorry. But gas costs money
too. Fuck eating huh? :-)

Oh well, enough bitching...

Greg, tell 'yer wife that I'm still busting my balls for a show and that
hopefully, things will materialize.

(And it's strange that all the other 'Boonies' places that Stereotaxic are
playing go apeshit when they find out about them and Dive, so as George says)

Guess big cities have BIGGER budgets to feed. fuck...

<X>orcist

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From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois)
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:56:15 GMT

alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace) writes:


>[stuff deleted reafirming his subject line]
>they were in use in clubs in various cities and I've only heard ONE guy
>that could really do some interesting things with a Numark dual CD player
>but even he preferred to use vinyl.

>For all of you consumers out there that want to listen to your favorite
>music at home or in the car, buy CDs.  DJs dont have (or want) that option.

>Alex Pace
>alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

But... maybe they like vinyl so much because they're used to it and have
been doing it that way for years.  My mind is clear, I have no preferences,
and I have no abilty to DJ.. spectacular effects or otherwise. 

-Dan 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Anyone go to THE FINAL CALL: How was it?
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:58:07 GMT

When I say that the DJs bailed because they knew they weren't going to get
paid, it was because the party was wack and the promoters were greedy, un-
trustworthy slime.

When I say that the party will be good, but is high budget, I meant just that.
It will be good, but it'll be a bit commercial.  Not **TOO** commercial, but,
nevertheless...you get the point.  Owell.

LFC/JD disc@quads.uchicago.edu


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: break beat
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:26:07 GMT

st10t@jane.uh.edu (Bloo Square) writes:

>Well, it most likely means beats during a breakdown, which is

>It could also mean break-dancing beats... but I suppose this

>I sometimes think of breakbeats as beats apart from the norm.

>Anyone else have other definitions?

Umm, yes.  It's that wacky "broken" beat that you hear in the background of a
breakbeat song.  Sounds like the sample cuts off and starts over too soon, but
I'm not sure exactly how it is constructed, probably by sampling someone
else's breakbeat.  Check out "XL Chapter 3" and you'll know exactly what I
mean.  Sounds almost like a fast version of the funky drummer (aghghghghggh!).
-- 
			  orb be in u, orb be out u

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Re: This Saturday - Seattle Rave - - info?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 22:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.053100.17818@u.washington.edu> pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary) writes:
> I lost my invitation!!  Anyone have one or know anything about the 
>Seattle Rave this weekend?
>

Well for one thing...

A few days ago I was in a store and the rave-esque clerk and I started
talking about raves, including the one this weekend. He said that just
the day before, the two Seattle d.j.'s on the flyer (Tripper?
Dominator? I forget...) were in the store just the day before and saw
the flyer.

They howled in anger when they saw their names on it, as THEY KNEW
NOTHING ABOUT IT WHATSOEVER. One of the guys asked to use the store's
phone, and next thing the clerk knew, the d.j. was shouting furiously
in to the phone, "Who said you could use my name? What the hell's
going on? I know nothing about this!"

Well I for one don't want to mess with those kinds of operations. Can
you say "big promoter scam"?

.
.
.
.
.
.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st10t@jane.uh.edu (Bloo Square)
Subject: Re: break beat
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:13:00 GMT

In article <14596@mindlink.bc.ca>, Scott_Velez@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Velez) writes...
>I see various references to 'break beat's. Can somebody define this term for
>me?
> 
> Scott
> 
>--

Well, it most likely means beats during a breakdown, which is
like a bridge, or the transient part in a song, or from one song
to another.  In DJ'ing, it is the best place to mix in another
song, since there is no melodies, just beats...

It could also mean break-dancing beats... but I suppose this
isn't a common definition anymore.  :)

I sometimes think of breakbeats as beats apart from the norm.
For example, 808 State's ex:el album uses simple beats (rock beats,
as if they were the beats that came with those guy's keyboards),
but the do a good job in making their music sound cool...
..and then there's like the Rob Base song, "It takes two":  This
is usually what I think of when I hear breakbeat.  Other times, I
think of those DJ records, like "Breaks, Beats, & Scratches"
This record has just beats over and over and over...for sampling,
or mixing in accepella or accompaniment, or whatever...  The scratches
are for those awesome DJ's who have an itch..

Anyone else have other definitions?
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: THE PRODIGY, 80 AUM, ETC.  
From: djperry@husc10.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:11:33 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: album????

Does anyone out there know if the Prodigy is going to release an album soon?
Also, I remember reading somewhere that there are three 80 AUM singles.  I
know about Mindcontroller and Standing On Top.  What's the third?
 

deX!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Compilation tips are GREATLY appreciated.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: 80892 (was: LSD (ad nauseum))
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 04:31:27 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (scooby dooby doo) writes:

> ObRave:  Whatever happenned to the new 808-State rumors?  I haven't
> heard anything since I first heard about it here on the net a few weeks
> ago.... 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
808 State: Timebomb                                          single [Aug 1992]

   12":	1992 US (Tommy Boy TB 540) [promo]
	  2:56	Timebomb (fon mix)
	  4:45	Nimbus
	  4:23	Reaper Repo (short mix)
	  8:24	Reaper Repo

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

More info, please!

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Everybody's looking for a reason to live.
If you're looking for a reason, I've a reason to give:
Pleasure, Little Treasure.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 01 Sep 92 12:56:49 PDT

In article <17rfk9INNsps@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
>There is something to be said for the sheer _ruggedness_ of vinyl - you can
>scratch the vinyl to hell and with some noise gates and a good amp it can 
>still come out sounding somewhat clean; 1200's are built like tanks, while
>CD players still are (and probably always will be) sensetive to water, sand,
>dirt, etc; and there is a certain romanticism to a DJ having his hands on the
>slab of wax, carefully manipulating it, tweaking the mixer and the rotation
>of the records just so... but what CD DJ's lack in hypnoticism and mysticism
>can easily be made up with the sheer quality and precision of their work.
>Who knows?  Maybe the technogeek craning over a massive array of knobs and
>sliders and liquid-crystal displays and shiny metal discs will become a new 
>romantic figure.  

	Much has to be said for a guy manipulating an oil derivative on
a couple of mechanical devices.

	I like the hybrid approach, and I have a feeling that's where I'm
headed. Of course the dual 1200s and vinyl will be heavily used, but there
is simply some stuff that just can't find except on CD. This is how I plan
my collection...

	All singles will be purchased on vinyl. All albums will be purchased
on CD. Sounds logical right? Well it does to me. Seems you would be using
more singles to mix around with, and scratch with, and do all those cool DJ
things with, while CDs could be used to get ideas for mixes, and figure out
what you want to get on singles! :)

	Someone needs to either post a FAQlist or maybe write one on DJ work:
IE what it takes, the basics (beatmixing, scratching, transforms), and maybe
how to do it. How did you guys learn how do DJ anyway? Pete?


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Milwaukee/Chicago Raves
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:07:45 GMT

Todd...I didn't know.  Sorry, man.  Credit is definitely due there.  I'll
give it to ya.

And to Obione/DST

Jer.
From: alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Pandora's Box in Austin this Sunday Sept. Sixth
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:04:25 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin




Pandora's Box

Sunday September Sixth        (Monday is Labor Day)
203 Colorado
Doors open at 10pm

-->FEATURING<--

  * Seven Deadly DJs
  * High Tech Toys
  * Drink Specials
  * Brilliant Intellabeam Light Show
  * Juice Bar
  * Enormous Sound System
  * A Plethora of Vendors
  * Smart Bar
  * Pandora's Box Opening at 1am


Call the 24 Hour Boxline for Details:   (512) 370 - 7911
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Love bus from hell (long)
Organization: Friends of Tank Girl
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:02:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.135449.20411@cs.tcd.ie> droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe) writes:
>I believe that with the joining of the hippy convoy and rave cultures this
>could only get worse. Perhaps the only valid answer is to say "Stuff
>them", do what you want to do and get on with it. But I wouldnt pin any
>hopes on changing the world through music, drugs or "passing out info".
...
>	There's my bit. Probably not all that relevant to the US
>experience, or anything for that matter.
>
>	Dave Roe

Quite relevant in fact, an excellent thoughtful post. I thought that the
"rave bus" post was a good creative one, but I share your concerns
about the idea.

So, what can we do to prevent the kind of decay and trivialization 
that happened to the hippy movement in the end? I'd like to think
that we can keep the party going, and that a change in awareness will
start to spread with it... Techno/rave as an irresistable sales pitch
for social change, communication.

Ideas?

-- 
| Randy Jones           | \B/
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  | RXE
| 608 259 0311          | /O\
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Mac sequencing (was Re: Mixing Music)
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:04:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <16856BF13.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.061338.17708@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
>jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (god in three persons) writes:
> 
>>I'm sorry! I've been using an amiga running Dr T's KCS for the longest
>>time and then only recently have I started to use Vision v1.0 on the MAC..
>>I fell in love with it.. it's a dream...
>>
>>your sequencer doesn't matter much; it's what you put into it.
>>
>>Vision is, however the de facto standard for dance music; you can do lots
>>of things with drawing duration and velocity ramps/curves and get serious
>>production value out of it.
> 
>Sounds alot like EZ Vision, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has
>used both: what are the advantages to using Vision over E-Z Vision?
>E-Z Vision seems fine (and as you say, it's what you put into it) but
>I'm thinking about upgrading.
> 


Haven't used EZ Vision, but I use Master Tracks Pro ... it does most of what 
Vision does (Although Studio Vision is way cooler) for less $$$.

-Howard
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ee3401cb@carina.unm.edu (Student Class Account)
Subject: Re: Eon's "Void Dweller"
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:12:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <30AUG199217280475@jane.uh.edu> st10t@jane.uh.edu (Bloo Square) writes:
>In article <dzfnkz-@lynx.unm.edu>, ee3401cb@carina.unm.edu (Student Class Account) writes...
>>Actually, after hearing "The Void Dweller" I think I would delete LFO
>>from the list and add Eon.  He's (Ian B.) somewhere around 7 or 8 on my list.
>> 
>>James
>
>Eon's "Void Dweller" is FINALLY out now??
>Can someone give a run-down of what's on it?

I guess you missed my review of the promo a couple of weeks ago. Here is 
an excerpt.

EON - The Void Dweller AACC52472(promo)  Vinyl Solution/Columbia

Rating (out of 5)      Track Title

3            A Kind of Living (Green Icing Mix)
3            Innnermind (Deep Thought Edit)
4.5          Spice (Original Mix With Notes)
4            Final Warning (Raucous Dub)
3            Basket Case (White Coat Mix)
2            Infernal Medicine
4            Fear: The Mindkiller (Altered Edit)
3.5          Electromagnetic Waves
3.5          Basket Case (Black Coat Mix)
3            Infinity (LP Edit/Remaster)
2            Dawn On A New World
4            Final Warning (unlisted remix)

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: GIFs of alt.ravers?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:23:09 GMT

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

>In <q!mn+np@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>>I wouldn't mind seeing it become a storehouse for scanned rave fliers, either.

>Pete Ashdown comes to mind, but who knows if he has time to scan other
>people's pictures....

Scanner: Yes
Time: Sometimes
Archive site: No

Of course, I'm always willing to swap my own GIF of me warping time and space
with anyone else.
-- 
			  orb be in u, orb be out u

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: GIFs of alt.ravers?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:10:31 GMT

I got one email message expressing disapproval; the concern was that
seeing the faces would be counter to the anonymity and freedom from
prejudice (for the most part) that we enjoy on the net.  People are
judged here strictly by what they have to say and how they say it...
I don't know, maybe that's a good point.  But still, a graphic archive
would be kind of nice, I think.  And of course it is voluntary - if
you are afraid someone will judge you or let your appearance influence
how they receive your rhetoric, just don't send in your picture.

More feedback, please.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: AJB reviews, #2
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:50:39 GMT

In <mxhn1d@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>AJBENNETT@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU writes:
>> Blue Pearl - Mother Dawn (UK Big Life: BLRD73 - 863 071-2)
>> I originally bought this because I thought that The Orb had remixed one
>> of these tracks.  Obviously not.  Is there another version of this in
>> existence?
>Yeah -- the remix 12":
>
>There's one other (non-Orb) mix on there -- I don't remember by who, and
>it's at home so I can't check it right now.  I've only listened to the Orb
>mixes once and wasn't too impressed, but I haven't heard the unremixed
>version for context yet.  

Is this available on CD?
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                    Doubt everything.  Find your own light.
From: bb2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian O. Bozarth)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:56:34 GMT
	<1992Aug30.025836.24784@ncsu.edu>
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


:Sorry if this has already been discussed but aren't Altern-8 supposed to
:put out an EP or LP?  Anyone have the name and what label it will be out
:on?

Well, here's what I have from CMJ Music Report,  it's an EP called
Infiltrate America on Virgin.  This is different from the full-fledged
album on import, Full On Mask Hysteria.  The latest date is Sept. 1.


Brian Bozarth
************
Energy Addiction
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Pisano)
Subject: Any Raves this weekend in OH?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:16:08 GMT


Does anyone know of any events this weekend in the state?
 (or close?)

P.S. What's up with that K.C. Free Rave (was that a dream? :)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: 80892 (was: LSD (ad nauseum))
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:23:24 GMT

In article <q-dnxap@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 808 State: Timebomb                                          single [Aug 1992]
> 
>    12":	1992 US (Tommy Boy TB 540) [promo]
> 	  2:56	Timebomb (fon mix)
> 	  4:45	Nimbus
> 	  4:23	Reaper Repo (short mix)
> 	  8:24	Reaper Repo
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> More info, please!

The UK CD5 replaces Nimbus 4:45 with Nimbus 3:33 and the cat# is
ZTT ZANG 33CD.  IMHO:  A pathetic single.  Avoid it at all costs.

- chris@kuling.docs.uu.se
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
everybody I know can be found here
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: GIFs of alt.ravers?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:38:27 GMT

In article <4xmnpjr@lynx.unm.edu>
lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
 
>> I got one email message expressing disapproval; the concern was that
>> seeing the faces would be counter to the anonymity and freedom from
 
Who said that?
Post their email address so we can all send them hate mail! ;-) ;-)
 
>> prejudice (for the most part) that we enjoy on the net.
>That's inane.   If you want to stay anonymous, stay anonymous.  Nobody's
>going to think any less of you for it.
 
Totally agree with you there.
Does anyone know of an ftp site for this?
I can't wait to see how funny everyone looks! :-D
 
Heck, I might even scan one of myself.
(Then you can see how funny *I* look! ;-)  )
 
 
--Eric
 
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Model 500 LP???
Keywords: LP from Juan Atkins of Detroit?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:30:20 GMT

Hellooo...

I read in a German magazine called "Frontline" that MODEL 500 (Juan Atkins 
from Detroit, as if you didn't know) is going to release an LP soon (on an
underlabel of R&S Records?)! 

Could somebody please confirm or deny this, as my german is very poor?


Oivind Idso

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