From: jjohnson@convex.com (Jennifer L. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Hunters Needed
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:39:07 GMT
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John Robinson writes:

(quoting me) 
> This event was scheduled to coincide with the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept.'s
> Hunting Expo, also in Austin next weekend.  According to an article in
> yesterday's Dallas Morning News, ~700 hunters were registered for the TP&W
> awards banquet.  That means that at least 700 hunters have chosen to be at the
> Expo rather than in the woods on the opening day of bow season.

>>And they've chosen the Expo over this silly fundraiser disguised as a 
>>debate.  Big surprise there.

Geez, I wish you folks would read before flaming.  Let me try to explain this
again.  I'll type real slowly just for you, John.

This is not a fundraiser
disguised as a debate.  The Texas Conference for the Animals is a biannual
convention for animal rights supporters.  It is an opportunity for us to meet
with AR movement leaders and each other, share information about strategies
and the state of the movement, and enjoy the company of like-minded people.  

In conjunction with the Conference is a hunting debate open to the public.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THE CONFERENCE TO ATTEND OR EVEN PARTICIPATE IN
THE DEBATE!! 

I doubt any hunter chose to attend the Expo _over_ the Conference, because I
doubt any hunter would have even considered attending an animal rights
conference, or would have even known about it.  Likewise, I did not choose
to attend the Conference _over_ the Expo.  No way I would attend a pro-hunting
event.  Come on!  Do you really think anybody said to himself, "Gosh, I wonder
which event I should attend?  Lessee, I could join the hunters and eat bar-b-q
or I could join the folks who hate hunters and eat veggies.  Reckon I'll head
out to the Expo, cause they're more likely to sell beer...."

> Included in those 700 are Ted Nugent, self-proclaimed hunting advocate, George
> W. Bush, and Nolan Ryan.  The Morning News article said that Nugent will be
> performing a 30-minute mini-concert to attract attention to his anti-drug,
> pro-hunting message directed at kids, and quoted Nugent as saying, "The kids
> listen to me because I play rock n' roll, and I speak the truth with great
> passion.  It works like magic."
> 
> If Nugent believes his message "works like magic," then why does he refuse to
> participate in the FoA debate?  It's certainly not because he's going to be
> busy bowhunting that day.
> 
> So what`s the real reason we can't find even two hunters out of the bunch who
> are willing to test their views against two members of the opposition?  If the
> leaders of the AR movement are simply disseminators of misinformation,
> wouldn't this be a wonderful opportunity for those level-headed hunters to
> give us the facts?  Or are hunters afraid to test beliefs based largely on
> tradition and myth against the well-founded arguments of Ingrid and Wayne?
> 
> I'll be in Austin for the Conference and for the debate, so I can post a
> followup as to whether any of those ~700 noble, level-headed hunters could
> muster the conviction and the courage to stand up to a bunch of gullible,
> Bambi-worshipping vegetarians.  My guess is that the hunters will prove
> themselves to be the cowards we AR folks suspect they are.


>>I suspect it has a lot more to do with the fact that not one respectable 
>>hunter I know would willing give even a fraction of a cent to an 
>>organization such as FoA, let alone $80.00.  Get real, you're going to
>>have to finance your own cause.  

Get real yourself, John, and try to stifle the knee-jerk reaction long enough
to read what you're flaming.  In case you still haven't got a clue, reread the
sentence I wrote above in all caps (those are the BIG LETTERS).  All we need
are hunters willing to participate in a public debate; we don't need your
money.
 




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