HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jaink@skorpio.usask.ca (Kavita Jain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: looking for Australian National Scholarship.
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:57:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: access.1992Nov5.165747.12943
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada


     Hello !!

            I am migrating to australia soon. I am finishing my Ph.D. in Plant
Biotachnology(Molecular Biology). Does anybody know about some Australian
National Scholarship like NSERC in Canada? I would appreciate your early reply.

Thanks very much.

                              Kavita.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: randall@ccrs.emr.ca (David Randall)
Subject: RMIT EXCHANGE
Followup-To: randall@ccrs.emr.ca 
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:59:18 GMT

Now that I have finalized my plans for my trip to Melbourne, I will be looking
for a place to live come late February.  I've heard the best place to look would
be RMIT campus, any other suggestions???

I have been accepted for an exchange program from University of Waterloo in
Canada and will be attending school at RMIT for 4-8 months.  I will then be
travelling through Asia (any suggestions) for about 2-4 months.  As you can tell
my plans are fairly flexible at this time.


Any info, comments or ideas would be helpfull and appreciated   


		Thanx 
				Dave Randall 
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Randall                        
randall@ccrs.emr.ca             
University of Waterloo co-op
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Queries from Oz News 31/10/92
From: MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BYRNES,Graham)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:07:46 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov3.173040.7409@cs.brown.edu> aen@cs.brown.edu writes:

> >              News from "The Weekend Australian" 31-10-92
> >              -------------------------------------------
> >          News from "The Advertiser" (Adelaide) 31-10-92
> >          ----------------------------------------------
> >"Hewson defends Vic MP pay increases"- The Federal Opposition Leader, Dr
> >Hewson, has been forced to defend the Victorian Government's decision to
> >grant massive pay rises to selected MPs - the day after the State slashed
> >workers' benefits. 
> 
> Can someone tell me how the MP pay rises were justified?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ann Nicholson
Well, Jeff K's own words on the radio were:
They worked hard for a long time and they deservrd it...
How can you resist an argument like that? At least some of them have 
since been reduced (the increases, not the salaries).

Much cuter was to axe the Law Reform commission to save money.. even though
it is not paid for from gov revenue, but from trust fund interest. The
government will now take advice from a "truly independent body", you 
guessed it, the Law Society.
Cheers,
Graham B
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: esler@apollo.hp.com (Kevin Esler)
Subject: Re: Oznews, Tuesday the 10th of November, 1992
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:12:26 GMT
Reply-To: esler@apollo.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1dpl13INNosr@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> brad@winnie.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Brad Alexander ) writes:

>   The secretary of the Victorian Trades Hall Council, Mr John Halfpenny,
> dismissed the changes as cosmetic and said they would not diminish
> workers' outrage at the plans, particularly the decision to scrap the
> 17.5 per cent holiday leave loading for people on State awards.

Am I correct in inferring that the main grievance causing the strikes
will be Kennett's ditching of the 17.5% holiday loading ?  If so, what
a sorry pack of bastards (Halfpenny and the VTHC).

--
--  
Kevin Esler //hewlett-packard/cso/nsg/std/clo/mll (MA Language Lab)
esler@apollo.hp.com   (508) 436-5979
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: als@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Oznews, Tuesday the 10th of November, 1992
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:09:02 GMT

esler@apollo.hp.com (Kevin Esler) writes:

>In article <1dpl13INNosr@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> brad@winnie.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Brad Alexander ) writes:

>>   The secretary of the Victorian Trades Hall Council, Mr John Halfpenny,
>> dismissed the changes as cosmetic and said they would not diminish
>> workers' outrage at the plans, particularly the decision to scrap the
>> 17.5 per cent holiday leave loading for people on State awards.

>Am I correct in inferring that the main grievance causing the strikes
>will be Kennett's ditching of the 17.5% holiday loading ?  If so, what
>a sorry pack of bastards (Halfpenny and the VTHC).

No.  It's 

-	the retrenchments of around 18000 public service jobs (eg nurses,
	teachers, social workers).

-	elimination of penalty rates eg no financial compensation for 
	nurses working midnight to 8am.

-	removing state workers from awards and requiring them to 
	renegotiate with employers for pay and working conditions. Eg
	"negotiation" Victorian style:

	Boss' opening gambit:  I am going to cut your pay, increase your hours,
		and save money by eliminating redundant safety protection.
		If you don't like it there are 100 others outside my door
		waiting for a job.  Whaddya say?

	Worker:	OK I guess.

-	Legislation to allow the government to take over any commercial
	enterprise, rule by decree, and declare strikes illegal with 
	$1000 personal fines against any striker.

-	Elimination of the Public Service Board and Law Reform Commission
	in case they prove an impediment to the government's plans.

The leave loading is really quite minor.

These are things Joh Bjelke-Petersen only dreamed of doing and never dared.



-- 
Anthony Shipman                 "You've got to be taught before it's too late,
CP Software Export Pty Ltd,      Before you are six or seven or eight,
19 Cato St., East Hawthorn,      To hate all the people your relatives hate,
Melbourne, Australia, 3121       You've got to be carefully taught."  R&H
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Ausbuy, Foster's
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:15:26 GMT
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

In article <25570007@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>,
    dbooth@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (david booth) writes:

| The garbage that we get to drink over here in California which is
| Labelled Fosters Larger has not been Fosters Larger for a long long
| time, if ever.

It may be labelled "Larger" over there, but here we call it "lager."

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
           Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,rec.radio.shortwave
From: grandi@noao.edu (Steve Grandi)
Subject: Re: Q: Australia short wave radio stations
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:57:02 GMT

In article <Bx41IF.B19@world.std.com> eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell) writes:
>In <1992Oct29.192934.4420@ils.nwu.edu> pbright@ils.nwu.edu (Paul Brightbill) writes:
>
>> help an australian friend living in Chicago reach some short
>>wave radio stations back home.  Does anyone have any information about
>>programs that might be of interest and what stations to search for?
>
>The best bet is Radio Australia. 9580 KHz in the morning is really strong.
>Also try 17795 at night.
>73 Eric eac@world.std.com
>

If Radio Australia on 9580 is really booming in, you might try for the much
weaker 9660 signal from the ABC in Brisbane.  Unlike the Asia/Pacific
focus of Radio Australia, the 9660 broadcast is the domestic service of the
ABC and is much more focused on Australia.

This morning, the ionosphere Gods were kind, and I listened to the 9660
broadcast during my usual exercise-bike ride at 0400 Tucson time (1100 UT
and 2100 Brisbane time).  ABC news on the hour followed by "Australia
Tonight" (sort of a news magazine with longish reports by correspondents
around Australia and the world).  As you can imagine, the looming trade war
between the US and the EC came in for a lot of discussion as did the
political situation in WA.

The 9660 ABC signal is significantly weaker than the 9580 R. Australia signal
so it has to be an exceptionally good morning.  9580 is 100 KW beamed
roughly towards the US while 9660 is 10 KW and is probably non-directional.
Presumably, the 9660 broadcast is aimed to Australians out of range of the
usual urban AM or FM stations.

On normal mornings, I listen to and enjoy Radio Australia: a news program
at 1100 (9 minutes or so of world news with a decided Asian emphasis and a
couple of minutes of Australian news), a very interesting 5 minute show at
1113 with summaries of editorial opinions from newspapers around 
Australia and a variety of shows at 1130 including "Science File" and
"Communicator."
-- 
Steve Grandi, National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, Arizona USA
Internet: grandi@noao.edu SPAN/HEPNET: NOAO::GRANDI (NOAO=5355) +1 602 325 9228
From: Malcolm Pradhan <pradhan@camis.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Evans in dog poo...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:26:20 GMT
Organization: Section of Medical Informatics, Stanford University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoskins-kfps-dynamic.stanford.edu
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X-XXDate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:27:43 GMT

I just read this news bulletin. Despite the world's turmoils Evans stays
the same, it's just so typical

DOGMEAT REMARKS NOT OFFENSIVE, SAYS AUSTRALIAN POLITICIAN
	CANBERRA, Australia, Reuter - Australian Foreign Minister Gareth
Evans has snapped back at suggestions he insulted the Chinese on their
practice of eating dogmeat.
	Evans was grilled in parliament Wednesday about remarks attributed to
him at a reception in Hong Kong this week in connection with a missing
pet dog belonging to the British colony
	
into hors d
told, eats four puppies a day,
reception, where his remarks were overheard.
	Challenged by Australia
his remarks were offensive to Patten and China, Evans said:
	
for that matter the governor. I doubt very much that in the case of the
Chinese any offense would have been taken.
	Evans said the opposition had failed to grasp the cultural gap
between Australia and China on the dogmeat issue.
	It was a terrible insult in China to call someone a dog or to
associate an individual with a dog, he told parliament.
	
eats dog is very likely to be regarded, particularly in Canton,
particularly in Sichuan, as a compliment on that person
taste,
	
regarded item of Chinese cuisine, whatever we might think about that.
	Evans said he had apologized to Patten 
public record in this way, completely misrepresenting the context of what
I said and the substance of it.
	
Evans said.
From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Queries from Oz News 31/10/92
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:58:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <1992Nov3.173040.7409@cs.brown.edu> aen@cs.brown.edu (Ann Nicholson) writes:

>>          News from "The Advertiser" (Adelaide) 31-10-92
>>          ----------------------------------------------
>>"Hewson defends Vic MP pay increases"- The Federal Opposition Leader, Dr
>>Hewson, has been forced to defend the Victorian Government's decision to
>>grant massive pay rises to selected MPs - the day after the State slashed
>>workers' benefits. 
>
>Can someone tell me how the MP pay rises were justified?

I doubt it. Try boofhead@heaven.vic.gov.

--
Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Cairns visit (Rainforest, SCUBA questions)
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:57:18
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
Reply-To: philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: zug.ai.mit.edu


I'm going to Cairns on December 13 and want to SCUBA dive for a few
days plus I've heard that the nearby rainforest is a beautiful place.

Questions:

1) can anyone recommend a good boat for a novice (PADI certified but
otherwise green) diver?  A friend went with Pro-Dive and his trip was
relatively death-free.

2) what should a photographer want to see in the area besides the
rainforest and how should he see the rainforest?

Thanks,

Philip Greenspun
MIT Department of EECS
From: jspencer@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Joel Spencer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Q: Australia short wave radio stations
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:50:33 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.

>> In <1992Oct29.192934.4420@ils.nwu.edu> pbright@ils.nwu.edu (Paul Brightbill) writes:
>> 
>> The best bet is Radio Australia. 9580 KHz in the morning is really strong.
>> Also try 17795 at night.
>>

In our little corner of rural Massachusetts (Northeast corner of the USA) we
get very good reception on 9580 KHz - especially in the early morning.  6-9
AM EST.  We often listen to The Oz news whilst preparing for the day ahead.
Newsgroups: aus.tv,soc.culture.australian
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Good Morning Australia
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:22:55 GMT

rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
 >And she even had a day off today.  She was sick.  Of course, if she was a
 >_good_ astrologer, she would have known that she was going to be ill..

The SMH Guide reports that K.A. may be given an "Oprah" style show.
That'll be something.


And now, your viewing guide.

the D-Generation	brilliant
The Late Show		brilliant
Fast Forward		sucks
Tonight Live		sucks
anything from the US	sucks
..except M. w. C.	brilliant
anything from the UK	sucks
..except Alexei Sayle	brilliant  (but over)
anything involving people from the Comedy Company (except Fred Schepisi films)
			sucks
Andrew Denton		brilliant
The Money or the Gun	sucks
Chances			brilliant
DAAS Kapital		sucks
Hey Dad			sucks
any US sitcom clone     sucks
Australia, you're sta.. alright
[etc]


--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
From: Benjamin.Dobson@newcastle.ac.uk (Ben Dobson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Queries about OZ soaps (Not PCBH).
Keywords: Neigbours, Home and Away
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:31:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.



Hi,
  I'm not too sure where to place this article, so I thought this 
newsgroup looks about right (soc.culture ???).
  What am after is info about the soaps Neigbours and Home and Away.
A friend tells me that in Neighbours Paul ditches Chrissy and goes for
Caroline (or is it the other way around!), but i don't know whether to 
believe her or not, could some one please enlighten me to the plots.
We (UK) are currently at Joe and Mel (married &) on holiday in Europe, Josh and phoebe going steady, Brad (surf-head) working for a surf shop who's owner is somewhat dishonest.  I think its about 1.5 years behind.
  As regard to H & A,any info would be gratefully received, does Meg die?, will Sam ever get shot in the head by a crazed gunman? and will Marilyn ever wear something tasteful?

Thanks in advance

Ben
+------------------------------------------------+
e-mail : Benjamin.Dobson@newcastle.ac.uk

Department of Computing Science
The University
Newcastle upon Tyne
England. NE1 7RU.                       0 0
                                         ^
"Be happy, smile, and don't be sad"     `-' 
+------------------------------------------------+
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: NZ National Debt
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:29:31 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <Bx8yAu.L3y@rice.edu>, byrd@lucerne.rice.edu (Marc J Byrd) writes:
> I recently met someone here in Texas who said he was here because
> of the New Zealand national debt.  
>

Good riddence to hime and your are welcome to keep him.
 
> Could someone give me particulars on this?
>   Total debt

Plenty.

>   Total GNP

Not much, but at least it is now growing (Up not down).

>   Total Assets (doesn't include GNP)

Somewhat less than the debt (ie if we were a company we'd be bankrupt)

>   Population

3.1 million. I believe the debt is something like NZ$18,000 per person. (If you
count he sheep as well though its not all that much :)


> 
> Also, would someone care to comment on your health care system?

It was once touted as the best in the world. Now its probably the best in the
3rd world, but thats about it. At the moment in Invercargill we have a hospital
virtually paralyzed (Not to mention the stress on the sick people) because of
the immaturity and inability of both the junior doctors and their management to
come to an agreement on their contracts (So what if they want individual
contracts. Just make them all say the same thing!).

ALso its now user pays. Get insurance the govt says. Unfortunately thats not an
option for the people who need to use it (ie the cronically ill), because what
insurance company in their right mind is going to do health insurance for
somebody whose already sick, or has been diagnosed with an illness (ie cancer)
in the past but is now in remission.

Hmm.. Thinking about it, perhaps is not even the best in the 3rd world...
 
>   
> 
> -- 
> Marc J. Byrd - byrd@rice.edu       |  United We Stand. 
> Rice University                    |  Whether or not you accept it, you are 
> Dept of Elec & Comp Engr           |  responsible for the actions and 
> XUV Holographic Microscope Project |  inactions of your government. 
-- 
+----------------+  Hamish Marson, Computer Science, University of Waikato
| I LOVE NOVELL! |  hamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066
+----------------+  Disclaimer:  Remember, you heard it here first!
		  
Best men are often moulded out of faults.
                                        -- Shakespeare
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore beat (Wairarapa?) Bush
From: jdavis@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Joseph G Davis)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell) writes:

>I left NZ for the US the day after Marylin Waring crossed the floor and voted
>with Labour against US nuclear warships ...

>	Paul


I presume you are not implying any causal link here.  If yes, may be
New Zealand's gain is the United States' loss.

-Joseph Davis
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: stefan@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Stefan Mochnacki)
Subject: Re: Trade war
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:47:06 GMT

fielding@simplon.ics.uci.edu (Roy T. Fielding) writes: 


> This seems strange to me.  I would think that New Zealand could only profit
> from a trade war between the US and Europe.  NZ agricultural products would
> finally be able to undercut US prices (and its entrenched distribution
> network) in the European market.

> The only reasons I can think of for New Zealand not to profit from it are:

> 1) the unlikely possibility of New Zealand joining in the trade war, or
> 2) the likely possibility that France will take advantage of the situation
>   and slap some extra tarrifs on NZ imports.

> Is there some other reason that I'm missing?

I think tariffs are placed on products, not on things from specific
countries (countries are grouped into classes, such as Most Favoured
Nation, or covered under agreements such as the FTA between Canada and
the US ...)

Thus if butter is hit with a tariff because Europe produces a disgusting
mountain of subsidized stuff, then New Zealand would be hit too (I'm
using this as an example; I don't think NZ exports much butter to the US!).

Canada is going to get hit badly too, but it really is high time that
the criminal European agricultural system was reformed. Likewise,
it is high time that Japan opened up itself to imports. In the long
run, that can only help NZ and Canada, as well as the US. Let's hope
that there will be  an agricultural (and silvicultural) industry
left to take advantage of the (hopefully) opened-up markets...

When NZ can produce butter, ship it to Europe and sell it for half the price
of the subsidized stuff, you can see that the European system is
absurd.
-- 
Stefan W. Mochnacki          INTERNET - stefan@centaur.astro.utoronto.ca
Astronomy, U. of Toronto     UUCP - {uunet,pyramid}!utai!helios.physics!stefan
Ph. (416) 884-9562           BITNET - mochnacki@utorphys.bitnet 
FAX (416) 884-2672	     LOCATION - David Dunlap Observatory 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz (H. Edwards)
Subject: Re: Moving to NZ (?)
Keywords: kiwifruit, price of
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:42:09 GMT

Kiwifruit for $2.50/kg?  Is that typical of Wellington?  Here in Palmy
I've been buying them at Pak'n'Save over the last few weeks for anywhere
between 59c/kg (a great special, as long as you ate 'em soon) and $1.59/kg.

I think they're from the Bay of Plenty - anyone in Hamilton or Auckland
paying less than us?


-- 


Howard Edwards				Ph: (64)(6)3569099 ext 8331
Dept of Statistics			Fax: (64)(6)3505611
Massey University			email: H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz
Palmerston North
NEW ZEALAND
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: NZ National Debt
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.122931.12003@waikato.ac.nz> hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>> Also, would someone care to comment on your health care system?
>
>It was once touted as the best in the world. Now its probably the best in the
>3rd world, but thats about it. At the moment in Invercargill we have a hospital
>virtually paralyzed (Not to mention the stress on the sick people) because of
>the immaturity and inability of both the junior doctors and their management to
>come to an agreement on their contracts (So what if they want individual
>contracts. Just make them all say the same thing!).
>
>ALso its now user pays. Get insurance the govt says. Unfortunately thats not an
>option for the people who need to use it (ie the cronically ill), because what
>insurance company in their right mind is going to do health insurance for
>somebody whose already sick, or has been diagnosed with an illness (ie cancer)
>in the past but is now in remission.
>
>Hmm.. Thinking about it, perhaps is not even the best in the 3rd world...
> 

I assume then, that you include the USA as a third world country??
From: paulq@spider.co.uk (Paul Qualtrough)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Who gives a FAQ?
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:02:54 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

Congrats to Rabbi and Mollusc on their fine piece of work (article 4437).
I transferred it from scnz to an internal newsgroup here (hey - there was no
copyright) and it received universal praise from my colleagues, despite
their being Scots in the main.

Special praise is due to their observation that NZ is neither Connecticut
nor Canada, and that the West Island is as close to the North and South ones
as Moscow is to London.  I'm surprised there has been no other public
feedback on this submission - I'd have thought at least someone would have
asked if Kiwis really live on a big fish by now.

In view of the abundance of FAQing silly questions asked in scnz (favourite
one of recent months: "do New Zealanders speak English?" Answer: "yes"
Better answer: "no, we only know how to read and write it through access
to scnz") I move that Rabbi and Mollusc be appointed to compile a monthly
alternative FAQ file which takes the piss out of some of the naive sub-
scribers we have, the issues that get aired in scnz, and general happenings
in Aotearoa.
-- 
paulq@spider.co.ukBeingPaulQualtroughOfSpiderSystemsSpiderParkStanwellStreet
EdinburghEH65NGUnitedKingdomTel+44(31)5549424ext4009(atleastforthetimebeing)