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From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:25:32 GMT


daved@convex.com writes:
|cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
|>So you'll be taking down that photograph of your SO, right?  If
|>you have a wedding ring, you'll be leaving it at home, right?
|>When you talk about your weekend over coffee on Monday morning,
|>you won't be mentioning the name of the person you went to Tahoe
|>with, lest you reveal your sexuality.  And you'll be using gender-
|>neutral pronouns, too.

|Basically yes, but I have adopted this behavior more to come to terms
|with sexual harrassment then any other reason. [...]

Looks to me like you completely misunderstand the nature of
sexual harassment in the workplace.  This is the second major
misunderstanding of harassment I've seen this week.  (In the
first, some bonehead claimed that a mug with an political slogan
about abortion constituted sexual harassment.)

I suggest you contact your company's human resources department.
They can clear up your misconceptions, and you can relax with
your co-workers once again.  

Poor guy!  Afraid to mention his personal life because he's
afraid it would be sexual harassment!

---
cj@sgi.com    			C J Silverio	
ceej@well.sf.ca.us		'92 Seca II	DoD #0526
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcycle Specialist
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:14:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article weydaOu00iV3I2Ul9D@andrew.cmu.edu, Andres Tapia <at22+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>I service Hondas, Yamahas, Kawasakis, Suzukis. I do repairs, painting,
>inspection, install racing kits and instruct riding skills.

How lovely.

Please go out and purchase your advertising like ever other Motorcycle
Specialist in the country and keep this commercial bullshit off the
net.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: *** '74 KAW MACH II FOR SALE ***
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:53:08 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Tuesday November 10 1992 18:34, Jorg Klinger wrote to All:

 JK> In <3880162@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme
 JK> Harrison) writes:

 >> 1974 Kawasaki Mach II 400 triple.

 JK>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 JK>  I thought the Mach II was like H2 was like 750.
 JK>                    ???

The Mach III was the H1 500 triple, the Mach IV was the H2 750 triple, and
I don't remember anything at all like a Mach II 400 triple in '74.

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: American Sportsbikes
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:13:02 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

I said:

>: >Before everyone gets carried away you should consider that we probably
>: >have a lot more corners per mile of road in the UK, hence large capacity,
>: >bikes can be at best irrelevant and at worst a severe handicap, unless
>: >you do a _lot_ of riding on motorways or very open roads.  In which case 
>: >they're still irrelevant if you want to keep your licence...

Jorg said:

>: 
>:  What you seem to be saying is that in England road conditions and
>: police surveillance keep you from exploiting the power and top speed of
>: litre bikes.  Too bad for you.

I wouldn't say you _can't_ do it.  But I suspect (after all I haven't done
a survey of small/middlewieght/litre sports bikes over a range of UK and
US roads...) that in the UK there is much less advantage to the litre bike.

For blatting around country roads, a good 250 might be the quickest machine.

This won't be true if you ride certain (very fast) roads, or don't mind
risk to life (becuase of our road conditions) or licence (our Police
surveillance).  Or if you go out blasting motorways at dawn or whatever.
But I'd say that those aren't normal conditions for most riders.

-- 
# Tim Stickland,   School of Biology,  #  A politician uses science like a    #
# Univ. of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY,  U.K.  #  drunk uses a lamp post -            #
# EMAIL:        bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk  #  more for support than illumination. #
# TELEPHONE: +44 (0)225 826826 x 5864  #   ('Wildcat', Donald Rooum)          #
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: UK - Motorcycle Show
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:59:42 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1dm7b3INNgd4@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>, by rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier):
> Anybody going to the Motorcycle Show at the National Exhibition Centre,
> England, on Saturday 5th December?
> 
> It's a suitable occasion for a DoD meeting as there are already 3 members
> going.
> 
>          #                                           # Let's not talk about
>    _     #     Roger.Collier@Uk.Sun.COM              # love and flowers and
> o_/_\_o  #                                           # things that don't
>  (O_O)   #     Sun Microsystems, Coventry, England.  # explode. I've used up
>   \H/    #     (44) 203 692255                       # all of my magic powers
>    U     #                                           # trying to do it in the
>       DoD#226  GSXR1100L                             # road.
>                Keeper of the GSXR1100 list.

Yup, I'll be there.
It's a bit too far to bike though, so it'll be a coach job.
Send me some details and we'll sort it out.

Antony.
DoD#1832
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:29:36 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]I am now leading a one-man crusade to keep rec.motorcycles open to
]newcomers by providing as much helpful and friendly advise as possible
]*in public* 

does that mean that if someone asks what DoD is and I tell them the truth
*in public* that you won't kill me?

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ABATE Voter's Guide
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:00:34 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association

Hi there!

Remember the ABATE voter's guide that I published here a while ago.
You may have also seen it from other sources.  For example, the
AMA mailed it to all their CA members.

Anywho 2 out of 3 of the recommended candidates won.  That means
a more friendly Sacramento for all of the motocyclists.
____________________________________________________________________________
Bush was right!  He said that we would have a kinder, gentler nation.
Now, four years later, the country has finally felt a little kinder
and gentler.  -- Blumstein
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 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cy)
Subject: '73 cow exhaust
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:55:14 GMT

I have a question about a '73 Kawasaki H1D (500cc 2 stroke 3 cyl)
exhaust system.

I recently acquired the Kawasaki for free.  It runs fine, but it
has nothing of the exhaust system.  I checked with all the dealers
in the area, and even cycle recycle in Indianapolis but could not
find a used exhaust system anywhere.  I did not think to ask the net.

Anyway, I ordered a new after-market system from Strader Engineering.
Walter (Strader?) told me it would take about 8 or 9 days to receive
the system after ordering it.  That was in early May.  After calling
many many times, I finally got the exhaust system in late August.  It
cost me $300 and it did not even fit and was 3 months late.  Has anyone
else out there ever dealt with this company or have any idea why my
exhaust system does not fit?

Some details:  I ordered the chromed system.  The plating job was
really bad, looked like they did not properly clean the metal before
plating it.  (Just a gripe)  The system feeds all three cylinders
into one resonator.  The original system had three separate pipes.
The Strader exhaust has the resonator and headers for the right two
cylinders all welded together.  The header for the third cylinder
is a short pipe bent in a U shape which feeds the exhaust into a
manifold which goes to the resonator.  This piece does not fit!

So, the Strader exhaust consist of two pieces, one large one, and
one small connector pipe.  Well, I took the motorcycle and the
exhaust to a dealer after becoming frustrated and they also said
something was wrong.  The bike is unaltered.  The large part of
the Strader exhaust fit semi-OK.  Only slight modifications in
the mounting need be made.  But the little connector pipe will not
fit at all.  Maybe if I cut 1 or 2 inches off it could, but for
$300 I expect it to fit perfectly.

I sent the system back to make sure it was made correctly.  It was.
Walter said that systems for '73 and after were very different than
'72 and before.  He seems to think that a '72 system will fit.  It
will cost me an additional $30 to get the '72 UNCHROMED system to
see if it will fit.  Besides, the bike IS a '73.  The cost of this
system is quickly adding up.  Does anyone have any advice?

Cy Herring, getting hosed
cmhg1010@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 21:47:59 GMT


>From soc.motss:
>>It would amend Article 2 of the Colorado Constitution by the addition
>>of Section 30, which states: NO PROTECTED STATUS BASED ON HOMOSEXUAL,
>>LESBIAN OR BISEXUAL ORIENTATION. Neither the State of Colorado,
>>through any of its branches or departments, nor any of its agencies,
>>political subdivisions, municipalities or school districts, shall
>>enact, adopt or enforce any statute, regulation, ordinance or policy
>>whereby homosexual, lesbian or bisexual orientation, conduct,
>>practices or relationships shall constitute or otherwise be the basis
>>of, or entitle any person or class of persons to have or claim any
>>minority status, quota preferences, protected status or claim of
>>discrimination. This Section of the Constitution shall be in all
>>respects self-executing.
>> 
>>Put simply, this amendment says that no town or other governmental
>>subdivision will ever be allowed to vote on the matter of
>>non-discrimination for gay and lesbian people. And if anybody voted on
>>it in the past, such vote is cancelled, voided, over-turned.
>

    Read it again, but this time, shift your bias generator to
neutral. What it says is that it is not legal to make laws, regulations,
rules, etc. discriminating against anyone for *NOT* being a member
of one or more of the listed groups.

    You have every right to your preference and I will respect that
as long as you give the same respect to others. BUT, don't go around
bitching because the powers that be do not see fit to give you
special treatment because of your choice. Just suppose for a moment
that they had passed the mirror image of this bill, giving it a
broader scope. So you go apply for a civil service position, asking
for special "minority" status. I bet you would squack against that 
law too if you were aced out of the job by someone with equal qualifications
but a higher "minority" standing because of a preference for chikens
or pronghorn sheep.

     THINK fool, you are complaining about an ANTI-discrimination
law that does a lot more for you than you think in that it says
that you are no different from anyone else and therefor, should
be treated just like anyone else.



Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


*************************************************************
   "Those twins are nice, but since I put in that Plymouth 4
    engine, there aint a Harley, Indian, or Exelcior that can
    touch my Henderson!"
                        Grandmother 1936
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: *** '74 KAW MACH II ***
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:58:00 GMT

dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:

>Riddle:  What do you get when you bore a 350 out to 750?

A stack of very large washers?

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington)
Subject: Don't ya hate it when...
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:28:10 GMT

...it's so cold outside that when you sit on your motorcycle,
the seat 'shatters' into shards of aged vinyl.

I hate winter.




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= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733=
= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre     =
= (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) |  mbeaving@bnr.ca              =
= Parking spaces? We don't need no steenkin' parking spaces!                =
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:55:51 MST
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

In article <1992Nov9.185543.12008@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>I am not picking nits, this is a real peeve of mine.
>
>My hat goes off to BMW, who builds the option of lockable storage into 
>everything they make. My next laurel goes to Suzuki, which can supply proper 
>bags for the big and medium Katanas. The beemers and the kats would both
>fit my riding bill, but what about everyone else? You can't put hard bags
>on an FJ, a TDM or a ZX-11, or on a GTS!
>

Some one send him a picture of Blaine's FJ or Ed's FJ.  I have also seen
the Krauser luggage on Katanas and zx-11s.  Something tells me that 
they will also be available for the GTS.


Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:10:18 EST
From: <TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD
 <1992Nov9.091442.21047@galadriel.bt.co.uk>

In article <1992Nov9.091442.21047@galadriel.bt.co.uk>, ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk
(Antony Espindola) says:
>
>From article <721185461snx@swamp.demon.co.uk>, by Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk
>(njb):
>> Can anybody tell a newcomer WTH Do means?
>
 >Ut-oh.
 >
 >Ready....Aim....Mail !
 >
And I thought it was   Ready....Aim....Flame!!!!!
 >Antony.
 >DoD#1832


 Maybe it was just me.

Tim  N67540(just renting)
'83 Yamaha Maxim 400

Cold out, no not yet. Maybe I need a windshield?
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd.
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:45:49 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1318@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>		I have to agree about the MSF class...It doesn't give one
>an air of invulrability, but rather it starts you out at a higher
>level of experience than if you had  taught yourself. You have the
>benifit of learning from the experience of many experiencd
>motorcyclist and studies on the Sport.  Think of it as taking a
>class in mechanics as opposed to teaching yourself via trial and
>error and logic...The taught student will have a better source of
>knowledge to draw from, its just a matter of applying it to real
>life situations... My experience has been that it has allowd me to
>recognise mistakes earlier and correct them before they became
>fatal.  "Oh lets see, my rear tire is locked....guess I better not
>release the rear tire...I might highside if I do...."

Having just recently taken the MSF course (after 17 years of riding) I think it
is very worthwhile.  I recommend this course to anyone who is even considering
learning to ride.  I learned quite a bit in the 3 days of the course that I
believe make me a much safer rider.  Like you say, I don't think it gives an
air on invulnerability, it just teaches you to deal with situations that you
might not otherwise be prepared to deal with.  There is an effort among some
motorcyclists in Texas to use the MSF course as the licensing tool for the DPS.
I personally think it is a great idea.  The test the DPS gives is a joke, and
a lot of the bozos giving the test barely know what a motorcycle is.  The
current method gives you a fairly even chance of getting your license even if
you can't ride the damn thing. 

******************************************************************************
Mike Serafin             serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com       Texas Instruments
DoD #0742                                                Dallas, Texas
1967 Firebird 326              1982 Honda CM250C
1969 Barracuda Formula 340S    1993 H-D FLHS (coming in Nov)
1988 Ford F250 4x4             1964 Cessna 310I
1991 Ford Escort GT
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:17:14 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

I moved my second bike into the appartment yesterday (gas tanks
removed) and am just about overwhelmed by the smell!  Not to
inspire flames, but the BMW smells worse than the old Harley.
I think its the carbs & airbox (open now) and the tires of the
BMW.  Or is there some special essence about these teutonic 
machines?  Maybe I need an Italian or French bike to balance
the odor.  Not British, thanks - I'm out of kitty litter.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:34:05 GMT

In article <92Nov10.222347.27185@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.181433.23307@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>>>In article 8962@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>>>>I just dragged an 8x8x12' railroad tie across the road one
>>>>evening as I heard that z-28 going from 1-2nd, didnt see
...
>If the guy that hit that railway tie is reading your posting,
>I'd like to encourage him to look you up and beat the living
>shit out of you. You deserve it.
>
>>Years ago when I was a young lad, we had a similar jerk racing
>>down a narrow residential street with his Z28.  
>>
>>One of my neighbors was in the construction business.  This man
>>brought home one of his dump trucks one day (and left it in his
>>driveway).  El Jerko comes racing up the street at +60 MPH and
>>Mr. Leonetti backs up the dump truck into the street...
>>
>>Needless to say this ended his drag racing days..
>
>Should have ended Mr Leonetti's days of freedom as well.
>I'd want to see him in jail...That kind of behaviour
>is not self-defence, it's vigilanteism.

The first case is clear cut.  The second case could just as easily
been a little old lady in her VW backing out of the driveway
that got hit.  If the Z28 driver couldn't avoid another vehicle
in a legitimate use of the road, then he paid for his carelessness.
In the first case, an unexpected (and damn near invisible) hazard
appeared in the road.  In the second, a predictable hazard appeared.
If you can't deal with other traffic, you're driving outside your limits.

I won't address the moral side of Mr. Leonetti's actions.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: nejohnso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Neal Johnson)
Subject: WANTED: Manual for Yamaha Maxim
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:23:32 GMT


Does anyone have an original manual (not Chiltons) for a 1981 Yamaha
Maxim 550 that they would like to sell?

If so, please contact me at 1-800-338-7494 (eastern standard
time) or nejohnso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

Many thanks.
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Solution to toll booth troubles
Keywords: Q-free system
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:39:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: research.1992Nov10.033931.15724
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <daved.721342825@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>Anybody thought of the obvious violation of privacy related to computerized
>toll systems:
>
>Take a picture of the driver
>subtract exit time from entry time, divide into miles traveled.
>If average speed exceeds limit compare electronically stored picture of
>    driver to electronically stored picture of the toll account owner.
>
>If they match up send speeding ticket to home address.
>
>This is to scary to imagine.

	I think about this every time the topic comes up.  Florio
(aka, asshole from hell) wants to do this in NJ.  Considering that the
tolls don't seem to even pay for their own mechanism of collection in
this state, I hope the measure doesn't pass.  It would be FAR more 
efficient to just abolish the turnpike authority and the tolls in one
fell swoop.

Florio Free in '93,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF  1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	          1975 CB360T - Baby Bike

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:42:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <BD.92Nov12130832@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>I wish I had the money to plan a trip to Colorado just so's I
>could cancel it.

What the hell.  Do it anyway.  If you plan 3 or 4 trips out there,
and cancel them, then with all the money you've saved you can
buy yourself a new Buell or Ducati (or whatever else you're into...).


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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