HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: contacts
Keywords: To RIT massive (contact Kirk)
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:19:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


          for me tell him to call me at UB or send me a message through this
          system.  Let me know if any of you guys contact him.

     P.S.  Also hail up Mike for me if anybody see him. 	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt)
Subject: Re: sports in Jamaica
Organization: /bdfs/users/plm/.organization
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:17:47

You should get a subscription to the US version of the Star or Gleaner.
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From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: "Going to Extremes"
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:07:57 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <192j51INNlkm@network.ucsd.edu> fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
>In article <wg2kqB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Andrew webster) writes:
>>judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes:
>>
>
	[stuff deleted]
>
		Note please that I was commenting on possible
		reasons why the television program's location
		is called Janique instead of Jamaica. I was
		NOT claiming to be an expert on Jamaica or
		making a claim as to the existence or non-
		existence of any health service.  

>>____________________________________________________________________
>>Jamaica has a national health service? Well tell that to the some of the 
>>market women from St Elizabeth that wait hours and hours in "that" 
>>country hospital with sick children in their hands! 
>>
>	Actually, I've visited Jamaica (and other Caribbean islands)
	twice; while there, I noted that much of the British influ-
	ence seems to remain, and, in fact, Jamaica I believe is
	still part of the English Commenwealth. Based on that belief,
	I suggested that country MAY have a national health service
	that would not FIT IN WITH THE STORY the writers had in
	mind.  

	I try to be clear when posting messages; my apologies for
	offending you. I certainly did not mean to. It's a tv show!


>Aside from the fact that Black River hospital is understaffed,
>underfunded, and not particularly sanitary, what's wrong with it
>? :-<
>-- 
>____________________________________________________________________
>Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
>She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Health Care & Jobs (Disappearing) was: Re: Stupidity of Am. Masses
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:47:31 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <20161@drutx.ATT.COM> rnt@druwa.ATT.COM (Bob Thomas) writes:
>Anyone wanting factual information about the Canadian health care
>system would do well to read the September 1992 issue of
>Consumer Reports.  

>The motives of these groups is quite plain.  Should the U.S.
>adopt a health care system similar to the one in place in
>Canada, doctors and hospitals would no longer be able to
>charge whatever they feel like, and health insurance
>companies would lose the practically all of their business.

>After reading the CR article, I am convinced that the U.S.
>ought to institute a system similar to the one in place in
>Canada.  Such a system could be put in place at a lower total
>cost than the one we currently use.  

>I feel that everyone is entitled to decent health
>care regardless of their economic health.

There's no question that total health care could be provided to all U.S.
citizens for less than is presently being spent (present costs are approx.
$3,000 per person per year--adding the 35 million who are not covered would
add another $100 billion to health care costs).  There are companies that
insure their employees for far less than this.  The large costs are for 
people who are older and have more medical problems and for people who have
their health care paid for by the government--and thus don't care what it costs.  The real objection many people have to a federal system is the lack of
credibility many of us have with the government's ability to provide an
economically valid program.

Many of the expensive items in U.S. care (in addition to those who either
have serious problems or little care for the costs) are those things done 
because of the litigous nature of the U.S. citizenry.  If a doctor needs to
provide $10,000 of testing before performing a procedure just to make sure
they won't be sued for malpractice, this increases costs noticeably.  One
thing mentioned with respect to Canada, the United States has increased the
availability of cat scans (at about $1,000 per) and Canada virtually doesn't
offer it at all.   
   
Charlie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.folklore.urban
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: North Pole (was Stupidity of Am. Masses)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:23:40 GMT

Thanks for all the email on this.
I have cross-posted alt.folklore.urban on this as a control group.

The answer for this should be 90 degrees (90 N since it was North to be
proper).  The majority of you emailed this, thus showing that netters tend
to be a more educated lot.

Now for a few other factoids:
America's foremost sky diver who landed at the North Pole used the figure:
	100 degrees.
John Long, one of America's foremost climbers who skied up there said
	0 degrees #LOTS of others also use this figure.
Several other NASA PhDs (oh, my friends......) also said this.

Frankly, I don't think you have to be embarassed, but think of this as
a test piece for future knowledge.  This will get more serious as
Global Positioning gets used increasingly.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Health care, my final words
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:11:14 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

	Below is the main reason I do not want to see the US government
involved, in any way, in health care.  I will no longer voice objections to the
US adopting a Canadian style system, but do reserve the right to post "I told
you so" when it goes bad.

	Top reason why the US government should have nothing to do with health
care:

	Abortion gag rule.

	There, I feel better now.  I feel better than James Brown.

Brett                                                      
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: What time is it at the North Pole?
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:16:18 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <cbuckley.716042360@unix1.tcd.ie>, cbuckley@unix1.tcd.ie (Colm Buckley) writes:
> In <jyc.716012295@Leland> jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
> 
> 
>>   I've thought of a more precise way to pose this question:
>>   When it's twelve noon in Greenwich, what time is it at the North
>>   Pole?
>>   It seems to me that this is a very rare example of a question that
>>demonstrably has no answer -- that is, it isn't just that we don't know
>>the answer, but that we can prove no answer exists.  But maybe someone
>>can show I'm wrong.
> 
> Of course, there is no "real" time at the North and South poles - although
> I seem to remember an article or essay or something which said that, within
> a certain radius (500km?) of the poles, GMT is used as "watch time".
> 

	If you could actually occupy the one spot that is the north pole,
wouldn't the time be relative to which way you were facing?

	That is you could look towards London for GMT, New York for E[S/D]T,
etc.

Brett                                                      
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From: morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: American students abroad, was Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:48:24 GMT
Organization: The Puzzle Palace, UKentucky

10u6070@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>Is it just a nasty rumour, or it is true that the US delibrately chooses its
>loudest, stupidest and most obnoxious students for exchanges like Study Abroad?
>They are all unable to grasp the Australian sense of humour - no idea of
>sarcasm.  I have had one draw a map of north america to show me where Florida
>is, and then explain that "yes we do have MacDonalds in America".

[WARNING --  WARNING -- WARNING 
 GENERALIZATIONS AND SARCASM (with a grain of truth) FOLLOW!]

Based on my experiences with "studies abroad" veterans, I arrived at
the following observations/conclusions:

	1) Studying abroad is, in many cases, a rather expensive endeavor.
	2) Therefore, many (if not most) American students studying abroad 
           are from high-income families.
	3) Children of high-income families, in many cases, tend to be 
           obnoxious, thanks to the fact that they never really had to
	   work for anything in their life. (also known as the "rich kid"
	   syndrome) 
	4) Therefore, many American students studying abroad developed
	   their obnoxious nature long before they went abroad.

However, we must also consider:

	1) There are exceptions to this scenario; some Americans studying
	   abroad have earned that opportunity through hard work.  Sadly,
	   this group seems to be in the minority.

This leads to a direct corrolary:

	1) Those Americans studying abroad are not a representative sample
	   of American students.

[END GENERALIZATIONS/SARCASM]

Case in point: A friend of mine went abroad for a semester in 1990.  She 
worked long and hard for the opportunity, but she couldn't amass the neces-
sary money.  For a group of roughly 25 people, only two scholarships were 
offered.  Thankfully, she was awarded one of the scholarships; however, she 
described 90% of her group as "pampered Yuppie proto-snobs who treated the
whole semester as a European vacation."

Don't assume that the US selects its "best and brightest" for studies abroad;
in many (if not most) cases, the positions go to whomever has the bankroll.

--Wes

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From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: Health care, my final words
Followup-To: alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.usa.constitution
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:44:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.132141.10991@cl.cam.ac.uk>, iaf@cl (Innes Ferguson) writes:
>clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
>
>>>	   Top reason why the US government should have nothing to do
>>>   with health care:
>>>
>>>	   Abortion gag rule.
>>>
>>That's actually a wonderful reason to be against socialized medicine,
>>>as practiced in say, the United Kingdom, or as Medicare in the US is
>>managed.  Would your opinion change if there was an Abortion Rights
>>Amendment to the (US) Constitution? 
>
>Wait a second! The Dutch have a "socialized" medicine system and they
>have absolutely no problem with abortion. Therefore, the above is *not*
>a reason against socialized medicine. I mean, even in the UK abortions
>are very easy to obtain.

Yes, so?  The topic was U.S. gov.-paid health care, not the Netherland or
UK government-paid health care.

>So, what's your point again?

It seemed to me that the point was that it's a very bad idea to give
the U.S. government power to decide about health care.  Personally, I
would add that it's a very bad idea to give the U.S. government power
to decide about anything, but that's just me.

Soc.culture.usa excluded from followup as many people seem to feel
that it is not a group suitable for political discussions.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.folklore.urban
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: What time is it at the North Pole?               
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date:  9 Sep 92 04:18:15 GMT

   I've thought of a more precise way to pose this question:

   When it's twelve noon in Greenwich, what time is it at the North
   Pole?

   It seems to me that this is a very rare example of a question that
demonstrably has no answer -- that is, it isn't just that we don't know
the answer, but that we can prove no answer exists.  But maybe someone
can show I'm wrong.
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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: List of words in American and British English
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:24:20 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Sep4.155205.10293@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

> 
> Neil
> 
> P.S. Can's (as in coke), don't have ring-pulls anymore. They have the silly
>      flap things so they don't get chucked away like ring-pulls did.

Which have a major design flaw. One of the advantages of the change from
'need a can-opener' cans to ring-pulls was that the can faced away from
you when you opened it, so a 'lively' drink didn't end up all over your
shirt.

The new captive things have reversed that again, so the hole faces you.

Steve
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From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Subject: cans and ring-pulls (was: List of words in American and British English)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:22:35 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet, Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: lannert.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

In article <18f745INN965@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:

>In article <1992Sep4.155205.10293@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>> [...]
>> 
>> P.S. Can's (as in coke), don't have ring-pulls anymore. They have the silly
>>      flap things so they don't get chucked away like ring-pulls did.
>
>Which have a major design flaw. One of the advantages of the change from
>'need a can-opener' cans to ring-pulls was that the can faced away from
>you when you opened it, so a 'lively' drink didn't end up all over your
>shirt.
>
>The new captive things have reversed that again, so the hole faces you.

Not necessarily. Some people (<- gender-neutral!!) have developed a
can-opening technique whereby they remain dry while the by-standers
get soaked. After having experienced this myself (as a member of the
latter group) I started practising and achieved some proficiency as
well. You are welcome to join a tutoring lesson (free of charge,
because I've been restricted to aiming at inanimate targets so far).

In case your budget for travel expenses is a bit tight, you can start
your own experiments, but remember to turn the can by 180 degrees.
(Not upside down! Doesn't work either.)

[I intended to add smileys, but I hadn't thought of it before I sent
this posting.]
--
Detlef Lannert      DC3EK      E-Mail: tsos@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
"No news is good news - not at all if the news system is broken."
From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:31:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Loud irritating ... tourists   ENOUGH!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

Don't flame me!!!!

I'm Icelandic!
From: hilmi-er@vall (Hilmi Eren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: BUSH IS GONE - SADDAM IS ON!
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:31:53 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I think Bush is not afraid of 
losing the elections. He is 
afraid of the words: "Bush is gone - Saddam is still on"!

That's why he wants Saddam  to "gone with the wind"!




By the way when is the movie, above, to be seen?

Hilmi Eren
Dep. Of Compt. And System Science
Stockholm Universty-Sweden
Hilmi@dsv.su.se
From: popat@image.mit.edu (Kris Popat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: hurricane vs typhoon
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:39:56 GMT
Organization: MIT Advanced Television Research Program


Why wasn't the hurricane in Hawaii called a typhoon?  I seem to
remember (perhaps from Gilligan's Island) that Pacific hurricanes are
called typhoons.  In fact, I always thought that:

     cyclone = rotating storm
     hurricane = wicked cyclone in Atlantic
     typhoon = wicked cyclone in Pacific

Someone please set me straight.

Kris Popat
MIT Rm. E15-391  Cambridge, MA  02139
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: stevew@teleride.on.ca (Stephen M. Webb)
Subject: Re: What time is it at the North Pole?
Organization: Teleride Sage Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:44:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.041549.19226@PA.dec.com> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
> [stuff about dinnertime north of sixty omitted...]
>
>(I actually saw this once on "Family Feud".  Asked to name a time people
>usually go to sleep, the contestant answered "night".  He was then asked to
>name a time people usually get up, and he replied, "morning".)

Then there was the contestant, when asked "at what month does a pregnant
woman begin to show", replied, "September."

-- 
------- Stephen M. Webb -------

Ack!  I've accidentally broken my leg!  -- Ed the Happy Clown
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Separatists...
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:14:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

JK>>JK>        The split-CA-in-two movement has been around as long as
JK>>JK>CA has been a state.  Every few years in gets more active, the
JK>>JK>media gets excited, then it dies down again.  The main reason
JK>>JK>nothing ever happens is that what would be Northern CA doesn't
JK>>JK>want San Francisco but San Franciscans would rather die than
JK>>JK>be part of Southern CA :)
JK>>
JK>>Why's that?
JK>>

JK>I think that, primarily, they don't want to be seen with Los Angeles
JK>the Weird.

That's cool. San Franciscans calling somebody else weird. BTW, I fell in
love with San Francisco, although I've been there only one week with
mostly rain.

JK>Julie
JK>#include "std_disclaimer.h"
JK>#include "witty_sig.h"
JK>#define LA_DISCLAIMER "Hey, I live 50 miles from LA.  Don't flame me."

greetinx, Carl.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: srivasta@physics.ucla.edu (Srivastava)
Subject: Need Tex formatted copy of US constitution.
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:51:26 GMT

Hi, the subject says it all. I will appreciate it if someone please send
me or direct me to a copy of Tex formatted US constitution. Thanks.

-- 
=======================================================================
Sanjay Srivastava		email:  srivasta@physics.ucla.edu
Dept. of Physics, UCLA.			ibc6sxs@uclamvs.bitnet
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From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:34:47 GMT
Subject: Re: list of words in American and British Englis
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

In soc.culture.usa, cubsfan@cultnet.ch (wrobel) writes:

> I am American teaching English out of an English book.  The differences 
> are many and varied.  My favorite (favourite) was "thumb tack" (Amer.), 
> which in England is "drawing pin".  There are also the following:  the 
> last letter of the alphabet (zed vs.zee), defence vs. defense, lorry vs. 
> truck, etc.  Trying to decipher the British meanings, I have had to 
> resort to a foreign dictionary, which usually notes the distinction. (in 
> my case, I used Italian-English dictionary).
> 
> .......................................................................
> Internet: cubsfan@cultnet.ch
> CULTNET (SWITZERLAND) E.V.
> INTERNATIONAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS FOR ART AND SCIENCE
> .......................................................................

telly is television
loo is toilet
magistrate instead of judge



Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: gerard@caliban.soest.hawai.edu (Gerard Fryer)
Subject: American Humor (was: Loud irritating obtrusive American...)
Organization: Scum Of the Earth and Senile Tenured
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:48:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.012115.3074@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, 10u6070@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
|> Is it just a nasty rumour, or it is true that the US delibrately chooses its
|> loudest, stupidest and most obnoxious students for exchanges like Study Abroad?
|> They are all unable to grasp the Australian sense of humour - no idea of
|> sarcasm.  I have had one draw a map of north america to show me where Florida
|> is, and then explain that "yes we do have MacDonalds in America".

You have to understand that American humor (humour?) is quite
differently directed than the strine/pomme variety.  Sarcasm is
routinely ignored, and the double entendre is almost unknown (I find
that rather refreshing, actually).  What other country could come up
with an advertising slogan like "Pan Am makes the going great?"
Another example: the local Volvo concessionaire here is an outfit with
the name "Jim Slemons."  People quite cheerfully drive around in Volvos
emblazoned with the distributor's name.  Every time I see a Volvo I
burst out laughing.
-- 
Gerard Fryer  (g.fryer@soest.hawaii.edu)
School of Ocean & Earth Science & Technology
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: holger@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Holger Reusch (Dipl. Gerhard + Joe))
Subject: Cops
Summary: Where does it come from?
Keywords: cops
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Distribution: intergalactic
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:59:54 GMT

I know that US police officers are called "cops".  I'd like to know
where that handle comes from?  Is it short for _C-something officer
of the police_ or the like?

Any insights are thankfully awaited.

TIA, RGDS,
Holger

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