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From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: What is a syllable?
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:41:35 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Nov1.133011.2871@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Bengt G{llmo (LMEBGO@kiera.ericsson.se) writes:
>>Gabor Megyesi (gm115@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk) writes:
>>>Hungarian has a fairly easy rule for syllabification.

This, fellow sci.lang'ers, is meant to be "hyphenation"; at least that
is what the rest of the discussion is about.

>>><...> if there are
>>>consonants between two vowels, the last one belongs to the second vowel,
>>>the rest to the first.
>>
>>That is exactly the rules I have learnt in Swedish.
>
>Not really I hope. The same thought occurred to me, however the
>issue is slightly more complex for Swedish (and I assume for
>Hungarian too, surely it's Ro-zsa not Roz-sa, or?)

Of course it is "Roz-sa", if "z" and "s" are separate consonants (cf.
"ko2z-se1g").  In "Ro1-zsa" `Rose [flower and woman's name]' there is
only one consonant between the two vowels, so it belongs to the second
syllable.  Next question?

>And what you get in a modern, computer-hyphenated newspaper we shall
>not even talk about. It's horrible.

My favourite Bulgarian hyphen occurred in my 6th grade physics
textbook: the word _svesht_ `candle' was hyphenated <drum roll>
_sve-$_ (here _$_ stands for _sht_, which is a single letter in
Bulgarian, admittedly a very wide letter).

And presently the rule in newspapers seems to be that a word can be
hyphenated between any two letters.  Most irritating.

-- 
 `If ye hiv ears oan yer heid - then use them tae lissen.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Uighur & other scripts.
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:20:41 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Nov8.143205.22191@prime.mdata.fi> karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen) writes:
>I have some hazy memory that it [_sc._ Ulaan Baatar] means "Red Hero"
>or something like that.

Yes, exactly.  (Or almost.  _Baatar_ means `hero, champion, superman'.)

>So I would guess that its name would get changed also,
>maybe back to an old "Urga"???

In traditional Mongolian symbolism red is the colour associated with
the east.  (I think the eastern quarters of the Mongolian tents used
to be painted red.  I've forgotten what colours symbolised the other
three directions.)  So "Red Hero" means `Eastern Hero'.  Has the
country (or the capital) changed its location recently?

-- 
 `Haud yer wheesht!  Come oot o the man an gie him peace.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
From: 34NLBDV@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Suggestions for paper?
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:07:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: CMUVM.92313.22072634NLBDV
Organization: Central Michigan University

I am writing a short paper for an Introductory Linguistics class.
I'm to compare a transcription of unplanned oral speech and a
(somewhat) planned written summary on the same topic.  I'm to find
specific differences in vocabulary, syntax, and organization
between the two forms.  Could anyone suggest a slant or point of
view that would make it more interesting to write and give it some
sparkle in my prof's eyes?  Also any sources to support this
thesis would be appreciated. Thanks.

Kathleen Bracken
Central Michigan University
Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Bailey's 1736 dictionary excerpts online
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:42:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.063129.11305@sq.sq.com> lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:
:I wondered if anyone would be interested.
:
:If I could find an appropriate newsgroup, I could post a word a day or
:something, I suppose, as I seem to keep adding to the thing.

Care to put it up for ftp?  Would make a nice cookie file...

G
--
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Syntagmatic and Paradigmatic
From: clark@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca
Date: 10 NOV 92 23:10:01 CST
Organization: University of Winnipeg

Hi

     The terms syntagmatic and paradigmatic have been used in Psychology to
label two kinds of responses that people give on word association tasks. 
Responses of different parts of speech than the stimulus (e.g., dog -> barks)
are called syntagmatic.  Responses of the same part of speech (e.g., dog ->
animal) are called paradigmatic.  Some research suggests a shift from
syntagmatic to paradigmatic associations during childhood, although the fact
and the interpretation of the shift are somewhat controversial.


Best Wishes
Jim

James M. Clark                  CLARK@UWPG02.BITNET  (note ZERO-TWO)
Department of Psychology        CLARK@UWPG02.UWINNIPEG.CA
University of Winnipeg          (204) 786-9737
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada      (204) 786-1824 FAX
R3B 2E9
Xref: sparky sci.lang:7934 soc.culture.esperanto:2059
From: pfeiffer@cict.fr (Daniel Pfeiffer)
Newsgroups: sci.lang,soc.culture.esperanto
Subject: Re: [week] Re: Weekdays in other languages (was: ... Latin?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:31:40 GMT
	<aardvark-021192130033@146.154.24.95> <1992Nov3.195527.24256@efi.com>
	<1992Nov04.191634.18686@microsoft.com>
Organization: Instituto de Reser^cado pri Informadiko de Tuluzo (IRIT)
	      Universitato Paul Sabatier
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Reply-Languages: Esperanto, Deutsch, Francais, English
In-reply-to: siobhan@microsoft.com's message of 4 Nov 92 19:16:34 GMT

Siobhan Harper <siobhan@microsoft.com> skribis:
> tngay can       (day of the moon)
> tngay angkia    (day of Mars)
> tngay put       (day of Mercury)
> tngay prahoeh   (day of Jupiter)
> tngay sok       (day of Venus)
> tngay sau       (day of Saturn)
> tngay aathit    (day of the Sun)

In occitanian these are the same:
diluns
dimar\,c
dim\`ecres
dij\`ous
divendres
dissabte
dimenge

En la germana iuj varias:

mardo:		Dienstag	tago de la de^joro (kiam oni pagis la dekonon?)
merkredo:	Mittwoch	semajnmezo
ja^udo:		Donnerstag	tago de la tondro, komparu la angla thursday
				de la nordika dio de la tondro Thor
freitag:	Freitag		libera tago

> These names aren't a result of the French colonization; they predate them
> by quite a while.

The French revolution in their rationalization drive (they abolished the
median `s' that looked like an `f', they invented the metric system ...)
invented the ten day week with a half week at the end of the year.  When
nobody else followed, they finally fell back in line with the rest of
the world.
From: turkel@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Turkel)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Days of the week in Moundsbar?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:34:18 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca


Does anybody know how to get in touch with Metalleus?  Last I heard,
he was staying in a Hotel in Beverly Hills....  Someone should ask
him (or her, but the pronoun I've heard is 'he') about the days of
the week in Moundsbar.

Bill
turkel@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: sci.lang
From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Subject: Re: Weekdays in Latin?
Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: Sabbath
Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:18:33 GMT

In article <peeters.721528824@tasman>, peeters@tasman (bert peeters) writes:
>matt@smoke.brl.mil (Matthew Rosenblatt) writes:
>>Cassell's Latin-English Dictionary has two "b's" and no "M."  Liddell
>>and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon has, "ton sabbaton," with irregular
>>dative plural "sabbasi."  "Ton sabbaton" is the usage in the Greek
>>Septuagint Bible, as well as in the Greek New Testament.
>
>>As for the "th" at the end, I always thought that it came from the
>>Hebrew Bible, where the word "shabbath" ends with a Hebrew letter
>>that English usually transliterates as "th."  The letter for "sh"
>>didn't make it through Greek and Latin; "s" was substituted instead.
>>Hence, "sabbath."
>
>I hereby stand corrected. Could the Latin word by any means be a popular
>coinage somehow inspired by the Hebrew word "shabbath"?

I've never considered it a "popular coinage"--rather, it's a borrowing from
Hebrew by the authors and/or translators of the religious texts associated with
Christianity.  There was nothing special about the 7th day of the week under
the Roman system, but in the Judaic tradition which gives rise to the
Christian, it is *the* holy day.  In order to retain this idea of the holiness
of the 7th day of the week, it is called by its Hebrew name, modulo the
expected loan phonology.
-- 
Rich Alderson   'I wish life was not so short,' he thought.  'Languages take
                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
                                                        --J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu                              _The Lost Road_
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Minimalist Paper mailing list
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:45:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Would it be possible for someone to  post a paragraph or two
on what this paper may be about ? 

It may help some of decide whether it's worthwhile to lurk for
a while :-)..
-- 

	mark	


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
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From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: [week] Re: Weekdays in other languages (was: ... Latin?)
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 08:19:19 GMT


In article <1992Nov04.191634.18686@microsoft.com>, siobhan@microsoft.com (Siobhan Harper) writes...
>In article <1992Nov3.195527.24256@efi.com> dchung@efi.com (Daniel Chung) writes:
>>     Is it not wonderful that the whole world use the same schedule of
>>"weeks"?  I think that the "week" is more popular and more important than
>>Roman months, Chinese months, or even my "equinoxal months".
>>
I think Welsh is the only IE language to have the full set of weekdays
named after the sun and planets 

Here's some info on Scottish Gaelic days of the week from an on-line copy
of "McBain's etymological dictionary of Scottish Gaelic" which I have.

<Di->, [-day]; the prefix in the names of the days of the week, Ir.,
  O.Ir. [dia], [die] (O.Ir.), W. [dydd], Cor. [det] (for [dedh]), Br. [dez],
--page 131
  [dijas] (*dejes-?); Lat. [die^s]; Skr. [dya/u/s], day, sky; Gr. @G[Zeu/s],
  @G[Dio/s], Jove.  Allied to [dia], god.  <Di-do\mhnuich>, Sunday, Ir.
  [Domhnach], E.Ir. [domnach], from Lat. (dies) [dominica], Lard's
  day - [dominus], lord; <Di-luain>, Monday, Ir. [Dia-luain], M.Ir.
  [luan], W. [Dydd Llun], from Lat. dies [Lun@ae], "day of the
  moon"; <Di-ma\irt>, Tuesday, Ir. [Dia-mairt], E.Ir. [ma/irt], W.
  [Dydd mawrth], from Lat. dies [Martis], "day of Mars"; <Di-ciaduinn>,
  <Di-ciadaoin>, Wednesday, Ir. [Dia-ce/adaoine], O.Ir.
  [ce/ta/in], [ce/to/in], [de ce/tain] ([de] = [dia] = Lat. [die]), [dia ceta/i/ne], from
  [ceud], first, and [aone], fast, q.v., E.Ir. [a/ine]: "day of the first
  fast", Friday being the second and chief day; <Diardaoin>,
  Thursday, Ir. [Dia-dhardaoin], E.Ir. [dardo/en] = [etar da/ o/in],
  "between two fasts" - the day between the two fasts of
  Wednesday and Friday; <Di-haoine>, Friday, Ir. [Dia-aoine],
  [Dia-haoine], E.Ir. [a/ine], [dia a/ine], O.Ir. [dia oine di/dine] (day
  of the last fast): "day of the fast", from [aoin], fast, q.v.;
  <Di-sathuirn>, Saturday, Ir. [Dia-sathuirn], M.Ir. [satharn], [dia sathairn],
  from Lat. dies [Saturni], day of Saturn..  The days
  of the week were originally named (in Egypt) after the seven
  planets of the ancients - Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jove, 
  Venus, Saturn.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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  Internet: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com                           leis
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  Views here are my own, and are not necessarily those of Digital
Newsgroups: sci.lang
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Syntagmatic and Paradigmatic
Summary: Definitive answer
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:18:10 GMT

More concisely: Syntagmatic relationships hold between things that are
used in combination with each other.  Paradigmatic relationships hold
between things that are used as alternatives to one another.

The terms were introduced by Ferdinand de Saussure in his _Cours de
Linguistique Generale_, published posthumously in (I think) 1911.


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From: goer@ellis.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: What is a syllable?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <82992@ut-emx.uucp> churchh@ut-emx.uucp (Henry Churchyard) writes:
>
>A Hebrew syllable
>which contains schwa (including _h.atef_ vowels) is prosodically
>weaker than a syllable which contains an unreduced vowel.

What sort of Hebrew are we talking about here?  Modern, Mishnaic, Bib-
lical (and if the latter, which dialect - Tiberian, Palestinian, Babylo-
nian, etc.)?  If you are talking about one of the "dead" dialects, I
wonder what your evidence is based on.  Also, would you care to define
what you mean, in this instance, by "prosodically weaker," and what you
mean by a "reduced" vowel (i.e. is schwa non-lexical, and are the hatef
vowels somehow shorter than "full" vowels [if so, what evidence do you
base this inference on?])?

(In case anyone's wondering, yes, Henry and I know each other quite
well by now :-)).

-- 

   -Richard L. Goerwitz              goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
   goer@midway.uchicago.edu          rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
Newsgroups: sci.bio
From: maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier)
Subject: Wolves in Yellowstone
Summary: TRAIN them to not bug ranchers!!! 
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:34:38 GMT

You know, having the wolves back in Yellowstone would, IMHO, be great.
I've been there a couple times, and the only predators that I  saw were
a mama grizzly her twins, and they were so far off that I would have
never known if I hadn't seen a ranger sitting there with a 1200mm lense
trying to get pictures. (Yea, that is one BIG lense, but it is a red
herring that I don't want to waste band width on :) . )

Anyway, the point that I am trying to make is that watching an ungulate
just isn't as exciting for me as watching something closer to the top of
the food chain.  If you could introduce animals that wouldn't ruin the
livelyhood of the locals, you'd solve the problem.  PSYCHOLOGY IN
ACTION, 2nd Edition, seems to suggest that it could be done:

	Researchers have applied their knowledge of taste aversions
	toward solving an economic problem of western ranchers:  the
	killing of sheep by coyotes.  One "solution" to this problem
	would be to kill all the coyotes.  Of course, this would be
	irresponsible and would cause serious ecological problems, since
	the coyotes also eat rabbits, ground squirrels, and other
	rodents that compete with sheep for the limited grass and edible
	plants in their particular region.  A better solution would be
	use classical conditioning to teach the coyotes not to eat
	sheep.  Gustavson and Garcia (1974) were able to condition
	coyotes to develop a taste aversion to sheep by lacing freshly
	killed sheep with a chemical that causes coyotes to get sick
	when they eat the tainted meat.  Their scheme worked so well
	that the mere sight and smell of sheep caused coyotes not only
	to avoid eating sheep but to run away from them when they were 
	near.

That's off page 171.  The book is written by Huffman, Vernoy, Williams,
and Vernoy, and published by John Wiley & Sons (1991).  

The above listed dietary info is also accurate on wolves.  The training
techniques that were used on C. lantris ought to work on C. lupus.
Since hunting in canines is a learned skill, and they learn to associate
the food that they are brought by their parents with their future prey,
there would be little danger of the increasing population being a
threat.  If an individual animal were to aquire a taste for domestic
prey, this could be solved with poisoned prey collars, cyanide, not
1080, or better yet, with collars full of this chemical to make the
animals sick.

Joey Maier        maierj@andrews. edu
Junior Zoology Major
Andrews University
From: refling@sloth.eng.uci.edu (John P. Refling)
Subject: Parts needed for AO Spencer microscopes for children's hospital
Newsgroups: sci.bio
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:30:02 GMT
Distribution: usa


I have been put in charge of repairing 2 American Optical Spencer Microscopes
for a children's hospital in Equador.  I need the following (free or very
cheap):

2 eyepieces x10 (a.o. 180 or equivalent)
8 objectives (assortment of powers)
2 base lite power supplies

If you have any leads for any of these items, your information would be
appreciated.  (I will be away on business for 2 weeks, but will respond
when I return).

John Refling
Electrical Engineering Dept.
University of California
Irvine, CA  92717

          [ please reply to me directly, not to the newgroup ]
Newsgroups: sci.bio
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: Trivia
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:52:00 GMT

In <92Nov7.140158est.251341-1@descartes.uwaterloo.ca> "\Ian Colman" <ircolman@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> writes:


>I am hoping somebody could help me out with the following question:

>What is the only bird that has binocular vision?

>Please e-mail responses to ircolman@descartes.uwaterloo.ca.


>Thanks in advance.

>Ian Colman



The owl...


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From: happy@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Rusty Soots)
Subject: Need Demos and Class Activities for Photosynthesis...
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:27:16 GMT

  I'm currently student-teaching three periods of high school advanced
biology.  I already have a lab lined up for this unit but I don't have
any demonstrations or class activities planned.  Does anyone have any
suggestions?  Thanks in advance!

*******************************************************************************
Russell J. Soots - North Carolina State University - happy@catt.ncsu.edu
Science Education/Microbiology/Genetics - Graduation Date:  May 8, 1993..yeah!!
*******************************************************************************
From: troberts@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: sci.bio
Subject: Search for Software <help me>
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:33:35 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

We at Georgetown University are attempting to integrate microcomputers 
into the biology curriculum.  We have a number of DOS boxes, but very 
little software.

We are interested in any programs that integrate the computer into the 
teaching environment.  Anything in biochemistry, genetics, histology, 
physiology, immunology, ecology would serve us well.

We [I] haven't a clue about what biology software is available.  
Please e-mail me with suggestions, manufacturers' names, gurus' names, 
phone numbers, addresses, whatever.

Thank you.
TROBERTS@GUVAX.ACC.GEORGETOWN.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.med,alt.3d,comp.graphics
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Request for Human Skeleton
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:02:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.184228.28975@qdeck.com> goodrich@qdeck.com (Steve Goodrich) writes:
>If you very precisely cut the body, you can get more than just the outer 
>contours... you can also get placement of nerves, bones, blood vessels, 
>etc.  I think it would be _VERY_ handy to have a full 3D map of the 
>interior of the human body, especially in the medical sciences.

Not to dwell on the macabre, but the big science museum in Chicago
(the one on the lake--I forget its name) has a (very, very, very old)
exhibit where a cadaver has been sliced top-to-bottom in something like
1/2" slices and encased in lucite or something similar.  These are then
mounted on a hinge, so you can "flip thru" them like the pages of a book.

This must date from before the 50's.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: sci.bio
Subject: Re: Need Demos and Class Activities for Photosynthesis...
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:25:48 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov11.022716.2067@ncsu.edu>, happy@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Rusty Soots) writes:
>   I'm currently student-teaching three periods of high school advanced
> biology.  I already have a lab lined up for this unit but I don't have
> any demonstrations or class activities planned.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions?

You can demonstrate the red re-emission of chlorophyll with a crude leaf
extract (spinach blended in 70% ETOH, then filtered) with an erlenmyer 
flask and an overhead projector.  Put the flask on the overhead-- it will
project green.  Tilt the flask slightly and look through the sides to
see the red flash.
Newsgroups: sci.bio
Subject: Microbial decomposition of flowers and seeds
From: stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Stuart Ralston)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


This is an abstract of my Masters thesis in Environmental Science.
Is anyone else working in this area or have any information to help
me?

Flowers and seeds are produced by most plants each year and enter 
the soil system at some stage.  Ungerminated seeds and flowers are
available for enzymatic attack by micro-organisms in the soil.
This study is to quantify the amount and rate of decompostion of
a range of flowers and seeds, including native species.  Weight loss,
nitrogen mineralisation and carbon dioxide loss will be monitored
during decomposition at various time, temperature and water regimes.
It is hoped that the results will help to gain an idea of the rate of
flower and seed decomposition, as well as nutrient turnover and soil
fertility.

Thanks in advance,

Delwyn Walker

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        / o  o \           ___  ____  stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
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From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson)
Newsgroups: sci.bio
Subject: Re: Interesting Optical Illusion
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 00:52:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <95638@netnews.upenn.edu> <758@capmkt.COM>

No, there was no window behind the screen.  I observed this in a screen
door.
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