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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Summary: I love it...
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:14:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Aug26.195424.4530@asl.dl.nec.com>, clee@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com 
(Christina Lee) writes:
 
> does anyone out there think that the sex scenes in certain
> movies are getting too explicit and not really called for?
Nope.

> Basic Instinct
Hey!  The sex was one of teh only good things about this movie!
The plot sucked, the lines were inane...it was a piece of trash.

But what a slick, entertaining piece of trash!!!!

> It really hit home when I realized that a woman had brought in 
> a little girl (2-4 yrs old) to SWF.  
This is lame...but not the fault of the movie.  It *is* the mother's
decision, but one that I personally disagree with.

Greg Bole                                   "I am only a human being person!"
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  Laura Dern in _Rambling Rose_
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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Least women in movie!
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 21:08:13 GMT


There are no women in The Flight of the Phoenix.
-- 
Mark Brader		    this                                take
SoftQuad Inc.		"If      is          shall       really      to
Toronto			            flying I       never                it."
utzoo!sq!msb
msb@sq.com			-- Piglet ("Winnie-the-Pooh", A. A. Milne)
From: kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 01:25:41 PDT
Organization: Fat City Software, San Diego, California

Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:

> I haven't seen Bound for Glory for a long time, but I remember one incredible
> shot when David Carradine and this other guy are on top of a train. This shot
> goes on and on (even though it turned out to be not as long as I expected whe
> I timed it later). I think they ended the shot when the train went into a
> tunnel. There's also an interesting Steadicam shot in this film which follows
> Carradine walking through a migrant workers' camp.

There's a great out-take of an extra walking up to Carradine
and jabbering about something or other -pure disgust on Carradine's
face. Unbelievable. The work of hundreds, down the tubes.
-Another fine Steadicam or Steadicam-like shot: the submariners
running to one end of _Das Boot_.

-- 
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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: 2001 (Was: Re: Most Embarassing Movie)
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:55:45 GMT
  <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> <65042@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Sep1.202819.9290@cs.ucla.edu> <65083@cup.portal.com>
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
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In-reply-to: Harv@cup.portal.com's message of 1 Sep 92 23:44:04 GMT

In article <65083@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:

   Even though I've seen it umpteen times in theaters of all description
   (including during its initial release, at the Warner's Cinerama and
   the Pacific Cinerama dome in Hollywood), and even during a godawful
   scratched torn print at El Camino College back when I went to their
   weekly film series, I'd gladly pay to see "2001" again in a good
   theatre with a kick-ass THX sound system on a very wide screen. 

You, too?  One of my favorite viewings of _2001_ was seeing it in
Athens, subtitled in Greek.  This really gave me an inkling of
cultural differences and presuppositions.  At one point, there's a
little bit of dialogue in the Moon buggy that goes, in English: ``What
is that, chicken?''  ``Something like that; tastes the same.''  The
subtitles ran: ``Is that chicken?'' ``It's synthetic; it has the same
taste.''  I guess Greek kids didn't grow up with Tang and the image of
astronauts having pills for meals.  And I can still remember the kid
in the row in front of me, constantly turning to his father and
saying; ``Ti'n'afto?'' (What's that?)

-30-
Bob
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:15:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.1992Aug25.231547.22171
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug25.033137.176068@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel) writes:
>I think alot of us are interested in b/w classics... and there alot of those!
         [...]
>   Hitchcock is "loaded" with some superb shots.
         [...]

    In _Frenzy_, the camera moving backwards out of the apartment,
    down the stairs, and out of the building, all in silence, until
    we reach the street.  We *know* what's going to happen.

    Wayne
From: tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Excalibur music?- NOT Carmina Burana
Keywords: or was it?
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:07:21 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Colouring Book Software

smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah) writes:

>I've seen this brought up quite a bit, but I've never been able to
>catch the answer I was looking for.  I realize the operatic pieces
>from Excalibur were taken from Carmina Burana by Orff but what about
>the rest of the orchestral music throughout the rest of the film
>(especially over the end credits)?  Or is it all from CB?

Most of the rest of the music came from Wagner's Ring Cycle and other
operas. The love theme for Galahad and Arthur's wife was from 'Tristan
and Isolde', the sword theme was the sword motif from the Ring cycle and
I think the end credits music was from 'Twilight of the Gods' (the start
credits certainly were).
T


-- 
Tony Cunningham, Insignia Solutions. 				   tjc@ed.ac.uk

Yes, I carry a grudge. If someone pokes me in the eye, I'll poke both of
their eyes. larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)
From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:33:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <5041@news.duke.edu> esa@acpub.duke.edu (EMILY ANGERER) writes:
>Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, although Cool World came pretty close.  I paid
>full price for both.  Yuck.
>
>-Emily

Well since you brought up _this_ one...  I think any of the Earnest movies
easily rank under Pee-Wee.  I must admit that every time I think about that
scene where Earnest has that turtle stuck to his nose (from Earnest Goes to
Camp) I get a severe case of the chuckles.  Earnest Saves Christmas was (go
figure) terrible, followed closely by Earnest Goes To Jail.

And another thing... On the subject of Christmas, I remember a movie where
Dudley Moore played one of Santa's elves.  I can't remember the name, but it
was a waste!

Don't get me on a roll...

Geoff

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From: wwr@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is the name of this movie?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:32:57 GMT
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

In article <1992Aug28.125934.4198@europa.asd.contel.com>, andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
> Does anyone know the name of a movie that starred Danny Devito and Bette
> Midler in the 80's?
> 
> Andy
 


Ruthless People?  Judge Reinhold - Bette's kidnapped, Danny throws a party,
right?

walter
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: great voices
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 15:48:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

One of, if perhaps not THE "best" most distinctive voice ever heard
in film, (especially) radio and some teevee was the late Paul Frees.
Unfortunately, due to temporary insanity I can't come up with any
cogent widely-seen examples of his film work, but he was a 
prominently featured player on the old CBS radio series Escape and
Suspense. 

Harv
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World quotes
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 01:45:30 GMT

In a previous article, u910779@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Rob Torok) says:
     Usually I can't stand having movie quotes written up at length, but 
     since this movie has such quotable lines, and it wont be on video 
     here for *months*, I would appreciate a listing.

bf911@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J Mulligan Jr) writes:
     Really?  Won't beon video for months?  I wasin a Video Connection just 
     yesterday.  I walked in the door, and right there, where you can't miss
     it, is a big cardboard cutout with Wayne and Garth, Wayne saying "$14.99",
     Garth saying "Excellent!".  In between the two where a lot of video tapes
     that I thought were WAYNE'S WORLD.  I didn't really take a concentrated
     look, but I'm pretty sure it was WAYNE'S WORLD.

Oh Dave. You are going to feel to stupid. And why? Because you were so quick
to show us how witty you were that you didn't bother to read Rob's post very
well. You see Dave, Rob is in Australia. Rob said it won't be on video where
he is for months, not - and pay attention here - that it won't be in Cleveland
for months. Considering the expense, Rob probably isn't willing to fly out
there just to get a $14.99 copy. See, you wasted all that snottyness, and the
only one that look's like a moron is you. Thank's for playing, though.

Michael

-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer)
Subject: Re: hoffa release date?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:46:37 GMT
Summary: hoffa release date

In article <1992Aug27.172145.19582@Princeton.EDU>, spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.1489.27176@channel1>, "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
> >MBB>Anybody know with Danny DeVito's Hoffa is to be released. After
> >
> >     It's set for a December release date.  For what it's worth, I've
> 
> The trailers say Christmas... it does look like it'll be a good movie.
> Me, I'm waiting for 1492...
> 
> ----------- The opinions expressed in this article are solely mine. -----------
> <Insert lame attempt at disclaimer humor>
> sss/PU'94 Dept of CS (spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu)/JvNCnet (spencer@jvnc.net)
> Be excellent to each other and party on.
> 

read in the newspapers that danny devito wants a december release date,
either the 7th or the 11th (can't remember which).  he said that all
of his other movies that have been released on that date have done
well, so...he wants to continue his track record.

wkm

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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:54:26 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Mike Haskell (mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com) wrote:
: 
:  What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
:  embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
:  up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
:  who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
:  your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)

Home Alone. No contest (although it was on at the University film society
and I didn't pay...) Laugh? I nearly started.

Pete
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From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 02:24:49 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

gremlin@buhub.bradley.edu (Stephanie Udry) writes:

> i'd have to say the last star trek movie made me ill....but i couldn't walk o
> because i wasn't the one who drove!  
> 
> we also happened to be sitting in frotn of the bradley university trekkie
> group at the time...blargh!

And here I was thinking that STVI probably was the best of the series
(neck-to-neck with STII:The Wrath of Khan, but of course one is an
isolated adventure movie, while the other is a large-scale epic)...

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From: perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg)
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Subject: Re: Woody and Mia
Keywords: thank heaven for little girls
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:16:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York

In article <holly.175@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com>, holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
> I don't excuse her actions if they are untrue.  I can understand her being 
> mad enough to make them, although I don't condone it.  I would think that if 
> she made them in anger that she would retract them. 

Wanna bet?

I don't think anger is the sole reason.  She wants to win the custody
battle and she's willing to say anything to do it.  It's an old story.

Robert Perlberg
Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York
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	-- "I am not a language ... I am a free man!"
From: michaili@blondie.cs.wisc.edu (Afroditi Michailidi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is the name of this movie?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:55:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Aug28.125934.4198@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>Does anyone know the name of a movie that starred Danny Devito and Bette
>Midler in the 80's?
>
>Andy
>

  This must be "Ruthless People" directed by the Abrahams&Zucker&Zucker team
before they split up. De Vito tries to get rid of wife Midler so he can
inherit her fortune. Also starring Judge Reihhold as a no-good kidnapper.
A hilarious sort-of-dark comedy, in my opinion.

  To tie this with the "inane title change" thread that run a while back,
this was billed in Greece as "Please kill my wife". Must say this added to
the film, though :-)


                       Afroditi


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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: Akira Kurosawa Films on Video?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:43:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.002958.6748@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...) writes:
>
>   [List of Akira Kurosawa films deleted to save space]
>
>In article <BtqKBo.43s@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes...
>
>} Didn't Kurosawa also do Samurai, the trilogy about the life (supposedly)
>} of Miyamoto Musashi?
>
>No. I can't recall the name of the director at the moment (it's on the tip
>of my brain, and I'm sure I'll remember before I get home), but it definitely
>was not Kurosawa.

You are correct, of course.  I have since been told in email by a kind soul
that this is the case.  All three films star Toshiro Mifune, though, which
is probably what made me think of Kurosawa; he's been in so many of Kurosawa's
films that I automatically associated the two. Thanks.:)

The Walrus



From: Douglas.Johnson@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Douglas Johnson)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Script Query: _The_Princ
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:39:06 -0600

SSS>:-)  but the whole scene is a gem... (even if it is bullshit
SSS>swordfighting, which someone has said on this newsgroup before)

Bullshit swordfighting?!  I'll have you know that that fight scene is
one of the best seen in movies since Errol Flynn last crossed swords
with Basil Rathbone.  I would like to know how it qualifies as a
bullshit swordfight.  Anyone?

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From: ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs])
Subject: Comments during Movies
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:21:07 GMT

After watching 'Knight Moves' the other night, I found myself commenting
on the final fight scene with Christopher Lambert ('Highlander') and
another who-I-shall-not-mention-to-avoid spoilers :) ...
	'There can be only one!'

The Wigs of Oz,
Aaron Wigley
From: ann@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Ann Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Linda Hunt (Was: Re: Mel Gibson really CAN act!)
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:25:09 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)

/ hpmwspcs:rec.arts.movies / lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) / 10:08 am  Aug 18, 1992 /
In article <1992Aug15.231342.3051@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:
>
>>How about The Years of Living Dangerously?
>
>Is this the one with Sigourny Weaver, taking place
>in some asian country whose name escapes me at the moment,
>and he or she is a news reporter?

It's Indonesia, during the reign of Sukarno, roughly mid-sixties.
He's a reporter.  She's a diplomat of some sort (English), possibly
an undercover intelligence agent.
Excellent movie, improves on multiple viewings, especially noted
for the Oscar-winning, amazing performance by Linda Hunt.
.
.
.

Yes, and how come nobody has mentioned the Australian movie "Gallipoli".
This is the first movie I ever saw Mel Gibson in . . . he was soooooo
young.  He was also one of the few to survive that particular battle,
even though he was not really the star of the movie.


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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: Aliens 3 and stuff
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:30:03 GMT

In article <31AUG199209200220@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.212732.23538@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892) writes...
>>In article <BtnAAs.6s9@acsu.buffalo.edu> v076r95v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Nature Boy) writes:
>>>In article <SSURHODE.92Aug26103154@suma1.susssys1.rdg.ac.uk>, ssurhode@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk (Paul Rhodes) writes...
>>>>... 
>>>>  c. How did the eggs get on the sulaco ? The queen detached herself
>>>>     from the egg laying part of her at the end of Aliens. Also, the
>>>>     queen was never left alone on the Sulaco.
>>>
>>>	No one knows how the eggs got on board which is why I thought that the
>>>movie was SO STUPID!!  It made no sense.  Since no one could explain how the
>>>eggs got onboard, there should have been no reason for the movie to have even
>>>happened.  Without that stupid egg, they probably would have made it back to
>>>Earth.  Sorry, I just really thought this movie was bad.
>>>					PHOENIX
>>>
>> 
>>Maybe a facehugger got on board with the queen, and was missed.
>
>There was a facehugger on board, but after they hug your face they die.
>So how did the dog get impregnated? There had to be another egg which
>does not make sense. So the movie was stupid as SEQUEL, but it was pretty good
>as just a movie.
>
>My two cents, Cass

OK, so maybe there were TWO facehuggers on board.
From: map@ccrwest.UUCP (Mark Prysant)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Sneakers ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:11:04 GMT
Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research

In article <27AUG199211110698@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Cassondra Pope) writes:
 >In article <1992Aug24.004252.10547@news.acns.nwu.edu>, judge@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Judge) writes...
 >>I've begun seeing trailers for this film, scheduled to open
 >>in limited markets Sept 18 or so. I've heard that it's 
 >>"about hackers" -- (hey, and Robert Redford is in it)
 >>does anyone have any more info, like what the story is?
 >
 >I saw previews at the theatre, and apparently Redford works for a team that get
 >paid to break into people's offices and houses to see how "secure" they are.
 >Redford's team is asked to work with the CIA on an assignment but their rule is
                                           ^^^ 
                                          wrong
 >to never work for the govt.
 >
 >It looks like it has potential at the discount theatre......Audi

I saw the movie at a sneak(ers) preview here in San Diego last night.
The theatre was practically empty - I'm not sure if many people
knew about it.

The movie was pretty good - some action, some comedy - a good blend.
I think it's definitely worth seeing when it comes out.
It's a bit more than just being about hackers. More like an
expanded Mission: Impossible episode. Execpt for the CIA, Cassondra
is pretty much correct about the plot. It has quite a few twists
and turns.

And a wonderful cast: Redford, Sidney Poitier, Ben Kingsley,
Mary McDonnell (sp?). All told, seven Oscar Nominees (I think)>

Just my .02

Mark Prysant
(map@ccrwest.org)
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From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Fright Night (was re: Dracula)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:26:48 GMT

In article <1719lqINNb0g@network.ucsd.edu> mmaxwell@ucsd.edu writes:
> BTW, what is a good sourcebook for vampire legends?  And what movies come 
> closest to following those?  

The classic work is THE VAMPIRE, HIS KITH AND KIN by Montague Summers.
Summers was a Catholic priest who believed in witches and vampires and
collected the most scholarly and best information he could against the
day that the Church would go back to protecting the people from the
supernatural.  Because he was collecting information to be used and not
just trying to make a buck his books are about as exciting as medical
textbooks, but also about as informative.

As for what film is closest to the real vampire legends, the proper
response is to ask which legends you mean.  Vampire legends show up
in many cultures and as a result there just is no consistent set of
lore to follow.  It didn't help that the Catholic Church
intentionally corrupted vampire legends to drum up business.
Originally vampires had nothing to do with Christianity and crosses,
of course.  The original legends pre-dated Christianity.  The Church
used the fear of vampires telling people that if they were good
Christians and wore crosses, etc., they were safe from vampires.  And
of course they were.  Also, why would vampires fear Christian symbols
if Christianity wasn't THE ONE TRUE RELIGION.  So it was sort of
proof of Christianity.  So crosses and holy water and hosts got
incorporated into the legends.

				Mark Leeper
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