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From: kbornhor@ovid.helios.nd.edu (keith bornhorst)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: password in Xnlock-3 ??!!??
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:52:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

Date: 8 Sep 92 20:52:59 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep8.205259.395@news.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need to get Xnlock running for a bunch of computer consultants but I cannot find where to insert the password into the source code...

Can anyone help me?

- Keith
From: jml@genrad.com (Jon M. LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Directed Graph Widget.....
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:19:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GenRad, Inc.

Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:01:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep10.190139.1528@genrad.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x.intrinsics,comp.windows.x

Hi Folks,
	Does anyone know of a free widget that is capable of displaying
a directed graph of objects (widgets)??  I've seen Young's Tree widget and
I was wondering if anyone has enhanced it to do Di-Graphs.

Jon

-----------------
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GenRad, Inc.
jml@genrad.com
(508) 369-4316 x2918
From: jmoore@ssd.kodak.com (James H. Moore 726-0322)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How do you record server/client dialog?
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:46:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Eastman Kodak

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:30:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.173044.4614@pixel.kodak.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I heard of a reference to a public domain tool which basically listens to
the X server / client dialog, and records it.  Later, you can play
the dialog back to the server and have it display (real-time) what was
done previously.  Playback will not need the original application(s) or
hardware configuration.  This is intended to record demonstations to
be played back later in a minimal X configuration.


Thanks in advance!!

					Jim



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From: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:17:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 11:48:22 -0500
Message-Id: <9209041648.AA11859@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com>
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In article <1992Sep2.171407.11876@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Ken Rawlings" <krawling@banana.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
|	   I love GUI's as much as the next person, and I do believe they have
| their place. However, it seems to me that when you take them to the extreme,
| they become not only cumbersome, but _unusable_.
|
|	 Case in point: The MacIntosh OS. 
|
|	 There are two relatively simple things that I want to do on a Mac that
| I _still_ have no idea how to do, even after reading all of the info-mac
| digests, and using Mac's extensively. 
|
|	   #1: Send a postscript file to the printer. Just shove that baby down
|	       the serial connection to the printer. No, I don't want to modify
|	       it in a word processor, or anything else. Here's the file, across
|	       the room is a postscript printer. Send it. I've talked to
|	       _numerous_ people that consider themselves "Mac Gods" and they
|	       all agreed, "Can't be done without a special program, and I don't
|	       know where you'd find it"
|
|	   #2: See this file sitting on the Hard Drive? Execute it. No, I don't
|	       care that you think it's a "Document", just trust me and run the
|	       damn thing. This is a _real_ problem when you have a bunch of
|	       .hqx files, and have a copy of binhex4.bin that you downloaded
|	       with a PC(why didn't I download it on the mac? Those beautiful
|	       unstandard serial ports that I don't have a cable for and Apple
|	       wants an arm and a leg for a converter for, and ComputerLand 
|	       can't understand the question in the first place :-( )
---

But, but, ... neither of these has *anything* to do with whether the
interface is GUI or CLI.  I believe you could describe both cases as
instances where the Mac OS imposes a relatively strong typing system and
you're trying to violate the typing.  You're looking at the world from a
much simpler model in which any file can be thrown at a printer by
supplying its name to the print program and any file may be executed by
handing its name to the shell.  Neither of those is really a universal
model, even in other domains than the Mac -- many print systems will
reject some files because they don't look printable and essentially
every system will reject for execution files which don't look like
executables.  We could argue about whether those restrictions are "good"
or "bad", but I don't think you can argue that they have anything to do
with GUI-ness.

scott
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From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re:  Resoures/Properties of a subprocess
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:59:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:59:21 -0500
Message-Id: <9209091859.AA07266@tmpcu.mdc.com>


jss@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Jelle Schoen) writes:

> 1) Is there a way to uniquely identify the windows of my subprocess, that is
>    any resources/properties that'll tell me which window is which?  How
>    do I do that?  The ID itself won't do the job since the subprocess
>    creates its IDs and the main process doesn't know them at all and I can't
>    update the source of the subprocess.

You said earlier in your post that you were already finding all window IDs
using XQueryTree.  You are most of the way to solving the above problem.  Name
your windows using the hints property when you create them and then check each
window ID for the names of the windows you created.  It's that easy!

> 2) Is it possible to save a screen layout?  And a window content?  I have heard
>    of the utilities xwininfo for window attributes and xwd for a window's
>    screendump but I need something that isn't interactively and they are.

I have a handy little C funtion that will save a X window to a Utah Raster
Toolkit .rle file.  All you pass is the window ID and a file name to use.
e-mail if you are interested.  If there is sufficient interest, someone could
post it to alt.sources.x for me (I get this group via e-mail, not a News
server).

Curt

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From: craven@egr.msu.edu (Dean Craven)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Seeking cross-platform GUI libraries
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:09:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:28:09 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.142809.25729@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer


We are looking for a GUI library which supports a number of platforms
with a consistent Application Programming Interface.  Ideally, it would
have libraries for the following environments: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, OS/2,
X-windows, and UNIX (text mode).  We only need a limited subset of typical
GUI functionality, but the API must be the same between platforms.
Does anyone know of any packages which might meet our needs (or at least
come close)?

Please respond via email, since I don't normally subscribe to these groups.
Thanks.

Dean Craven (craven@egr.msu.edu)
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Writing Text to Postscript Files
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:05:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Date: 14 Sep 92 17:14:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep14.171444.23025@cs.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9209092034.AA22312@msodb..msodb.Kodak.COM> nobody@Kodak.COM writes:
>Hello,
>
>This note is in inquiry of a method for writing text to a postscript
>file.  Is this task possible, or is it just wishful thinking?  Also,
>would it be possible to write text to a raster image?  This will be
>done on a Sun workstation.  Any help would be a plus.

The easiest way is probably to use a tool like tgif, xfig, or idraw.
They are MacDraw-like tools.  They all can generate postscript files.
Tgif and xfig can also generate X11 bitmap files.  I don't know if
xfig/transfig can generate SUN raster files, but you can use the pbmplus
toolkit to convert an X11 bitmap file to a SUN ratser file.

Tgif, xfig, and pbmplus are available for anonymous ftp from the /contrib
directory on export.lcs.mit.edu.  Idraw's executables can be obtained
from the /bin directory on interviews.stanford.edu.
-- 
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3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
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From: wiltzius@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Dave Wiltzius)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XtCallbackReleaseCacheRef crashes
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:17:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab.

Date: 4 Sep 92 15:47:02 GMT
Message-Id: <135409@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.windows.x


I'm writing a Motif application on an SGI running 4.0.4 and
can reliably reproduce a core dump with the following traceback
from dbx:

XtCallbackReleaseCacheRef
ObjectDestroy
_XtFreeCallbackList
XtFree
.malloc.free

I have run this will mallopt's M_DEBUG enabled (nothing caught
there).  It happens after I create about 7 top level shells,
destroy 2 (via window manager "quit"), create another and destroy
that one.  All of these shells have a mixed-mode (SGI terminology)
child.

I'm about ready to hit the sources for this problem.  Any suggestions,
comments or hints would be welcomed.  I've looked at my code closely
but am not excluding bugs there, of course.

Please send email since our news service is flakey.  Thanks much.
  Dave Wiltzius
  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab
  wiltzius@llnl.gov
From: pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr (Francois PELLEGRINI)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Question about removing icon titles
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:53:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GRECO Programmation du CNRS - Bordeaux,France

Date: 9 Sep 92 15:43:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.154356.14510@greco-prog.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	Hello.

	I hope this is the right group to post this to.
	My problem is simple. I would like, for some applications such as
xrn, not to see the name of the application below its icon (for
aesthetic purposes), as well as keeping the application's name in the title bar.
	Is there a convenient way to do that, preferrably by using a
twm option that I haven't seen in the on-line manual?

			Thank you in advance.

						f.p.

P.S.:	Answers by mail preferred.
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(pelegrin@brol.greco-prog.fr)
From: marbru@auto-trol.com (Martin Brunecky)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Small program illustrating Xaw dialog problem...
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:11:22 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:12:40 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep4.001240.10734@auto-trol.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9209012204.AA00508@excess.lcs.mit.edu> converse@expo.lcs.mit.EDU (Donna Converse) writes:
>
>When the widgets are realized, a geometry negotiation takes place.
>I've found that the paper "Geometry Management with Xt: Advice for Widget
>Authors" from the proceedings of Xhibition 1991, by Kee Hinkley and Andrew
>Schulert, is valuable to read.  From that paper:
>
   It is important to keep on mind that most existing widget sets
   have their Achilles Heel right where it comes to geometry
   management. Bugs, misbehavior, Xt convention/protocol vialoations,
   mostly caused by the fact the Xt rules are not clearly understood.
   Both Motif (1.1) and OLIT include numerous sinns.

   So you have to take the layout management with a grain of salt.
   It *should* behave like described in Xt spec or Ralph Swick's book,
   but do not be surprized if some less typical configuration of
   widgets MISBEHAVES - it simply has not been tested :-).
   
   Typically the phase 1 - collecting geometry preferences up to the root
   works fine. But if the top-down pass tries to impose something different,
   all those sinns come up.

>Maybe you could do without constraining the shell window to be a
>particular size?
>
   This would be also my advice: pass 2 won't really happen. But then, 
   what if the innocent user tries to resize the shell ?



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From: johore@auto-trol.com (John Orendt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Stack Traceback program wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:46:59 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado

Date: 9 Sep 92 20:31:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep9.203148.373@auto-trol.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.questions,comp.windows.x

Please send me any information on doing a stack trace you come across.
Strictly UNIX on sun dec and HP
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From: mike@vort.cuc.ab.ca (Mike Nemeth)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: suddenly no job control under X386!
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:04:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 04:52:22 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep07.045222.6702@vort.cuc.ab.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

system is ISC 3.2.2.1, X11R5 patchlevel 12, generic ET4000 card.

built X11R5 using gcc 2.2, installed it, worked just peachy. last week i
start up X under tcsh (or csh) and get the following...

Warning: no access to tty (Invalid argument).
Thus no job control in this shell.
%

what the *^&% ? this didn't used to happen ! does anybody have any clues?

-- 
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From: le01156@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Jeff Sheffel @ x2016)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Reading text from Athena (Xaw) asciiTextWidgets ?
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:20:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon

Date: 9 Sep 92 20:29:32 GMT
Message-Id: <9SEP199213355388@portal.lasc.lockheed.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have unsuccessfully tried to read (retrieve) the user
modified text from an Athena asciiTextWidget.  I looked
at other example programs (xless and xdbx) to see how it
was done.  Here is a section of (pseudo) code:

Widget	textSrcWidget, asciiTextWidget1;
XawTextBlock	buffer;
char	*userInput;

	textSrcWidget = XawTextGetSource( asciiTextWidget1 );
	XawTextSourceRead( textSrcWidget, start, &buffer, length );
	xtrncpy( userInput, buffer.ptr, buffer.length );

When I tried this, buffer.ptr = '\0' and buffer.length
was zero.  The standard X documentation is weak in the area
Athena widget usage and particularly in the explanation of
"text sources and sinks" which appear to be used in the
above example.

How is text read from the Athena asciiTextWidget?

Jeff Sheffel		le01156@portal.lasc.lockheed.com
From: danny@falafel.cs.huji.ac.il (Danny Braniss)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XSupportsLocale()
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:27:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Date: 12 Sep 92 11:29:20 GMT
Message-Id: <5608@shum.huji.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

-- 

Help!, I compiled Motif 1.2, and for that I recompiled mit stuff after applying all patches,
and motif now complains. So I started hunting around, and got to the problem.

XSupportsLocale() stopped working,  under SunOs 4.1.1 and mit fixes upto 12 (not sure about
this) it works, after applying fixes (including 17) it broke.

this is my test program:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <X11/Xlib.h>
#include <X11/Xlocale.h>


main(cc, vv)
{
#if 0
	char *p;

	if((p = setlocale(LC_ALL, (char *) NULL)) == NULL) {
		printf("cannot set locale\n");
		exit(1);
	}
	printf("locale returns; '%s'\n", p);
#endif
	if(!XSupportsLocale()) {
		printf("X does not support locale\n");
		exit(1);
	}
	exit(0);
}

this is the 'trace':
[...]
mmap (0, 16396, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf7690000
mmap (0xf7692000, 8192, 0x7, 0x80000012, 3, 8192) = 0xf7692000
close (3) = 0
close (4) = 0
getpagesize () = 4096
brk (0x60e8) = 0
brk (0x70e8) = 0
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib/\367\377\371D\367\200//Cod".., 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib/\367\377\371D\367\200//Cod".., 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib//Codeset", 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib/\367\377\371D\367\200//Cod".., 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib/\367\377\371D\367\200//Cod".., 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/local/X11R5/lib//Codeset", 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/usr/lib/X11/\367\377\371D\367\200/Codeset", 0, 0666) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
ioctl (1, 0x40125401, 0xf7ffefb4) = 0
write (1, "X does not support locale\n", 26) = X does not support locale

there is 'garbage' between ....lib/ and Codeset.



Daniel Braniss					e-mail: danny@cs.huji.ac.il
Computer Science Dep.				phone:  +972 2 58 4385
The Hebrew University				Fax:    +972 2 58 5439
Jerusalem, Israel

From: danny@falafel.cs.huji.ac.il (Danny Braniss)
Organization: 
Subject: XSupportsLocale()
Keywords:

-- 

Help!, I compiled Motif 1.2, and for that I recompiled mit stuff after applying all patches,
and motif now complains. So I started hunting around, and got to the problem.
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:06:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Date: 13 Sep 92 11:51:54 GMT
Message-Id: <14607@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

>Ok, I've been advised that Open Windows _is_ (or rather, implements)
>Open Look.  At least I and the previous poster were obviously in
>violent agreement!  ;-)

Did the previous poster disklike the OPEN LOOK GUI, or did they dislike
the Open Windows implementation of it?
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Creating Virtual Root Windows
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:53:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:04:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep11.010439.10469@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Sep8.220705.9678@cs.yale.edu>, rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:

> This may be an FAQ, but I didn't see it in the FAQ list.

I don't think it is.  I don't recall seeing it come up before, which
means it definitely doesn't come up often.

> What I'd like to do is create a window W which is a client of the
> root window in an already running X server, and then set it up so
> that W is the root for new display foo:1 (say W is living on display
> foo:0).

> From reading the X protocol specs, I got the impression that I would
> be able to simply open up the socket corresponding to foo:1 and a
> connection to foo:0.  Then, whenever a client comes in on foo:1, I
> pass it all the connection information that it would normally see if
> it were connecting to foo:0 except that I tell it that W is the root
> window.  From then on, I pass all data unchanged from foo:1 to foo:0.

It's not that simple.  You also have to fudge some things - for
example, the protocol specifies that certain requests act differently
when applied to root windows - DestroyWindow request are ignored, to
pick one.  You'd have to arrange for those.  You'd have to offset the
"root window" coordinates in some event types.  You'll have to arrange
that XID values corresponding to windows not under your pseudo-root
appear to be invalid.  You'll have to deal with the possibility that
the pseudo-root gets resized by the window manager running on the real
root.  You'll have lots of such headaches to deal with...what do
clients of the pseudo-root see when a non-pseudo-rooted client grabs an
input device?  That sort of thing.

There was, in R3 I think it was, a pseudo-root mechanism which looked
(to clients) something like this.  It was taken out in the next release
(R4, if memory serves) because it had problems, presumably something
like the problems I brought up above.  Nothing has replaced it as far
as I know.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: captain@broue.rot.qc.ca (Andrew Webster)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:47:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Groupe de Recherche Operationnelle en Telecommunication (ROT)

Date: 14 Sep 92 12:43:31 GMT
Message-Id: <1hnVwv#B7dZHy=captain@broue.rot.qc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger) writes:
: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
: : terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
: : 
: : >	If they aren't willing to open the box to check for documentation,
: : >what makes you think they're going to take an opened box back when the
: : >board isn't documented or is defective?
: : 
: : Yeah, but what video card company (or SCSI card company, or sound card
: : company, or ...) packages technical docs with their product?  None
: : that I've seen...
: :
: : [ remaining text deleted ]
: 
: It's even worse when companies won't give out any information.  My ATI VGA
: Wonder was one of those cards that info. was impossible to get.  I don't know
: if ATI policy has changed, but back when I needed info. about the Wonder
: I ended up buying a book("VGA Programming" I think).  The authors of the book
: even stated they had great difficulty getting info. on the Wonder.
: 
: 				Phil

Actually I have never had any problem getting info on the VGA Wonder.
Out of the box, one of the disks includes a file on how to program
the card, including the extended registers.  
ATI also has a complete programming manual available for the card, cost is
about 40 bucks, with is a little excessive, but it you bend their ear the
right way about wanting to develop new software, etc... you can get one
for free.
As well, I needed some information on the STB card a while back, uses the
TSENG chipset, so I called STB, and a few days later had a HUGE binder
on how to program the card, NOW THAT'S SUPPORT!, especially considering I didn't
even own an STB card, I just wanted to write a driver.

The reason both ATI and TSENG based boards are so popular is no doubt due
in part to good tech support, and information availability.

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