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From: benny@csoc.COM (Benny Clark)
Subject: SunSolve Searcher not Working
Organization: CAD Systems of Carolina
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:06:10 GMT

I just received my copy of SunSolve.  The installation seemed
to go without a hitch.  However, I can't search for anything.

I key in my search, tell it to do its thing, and it always
times out without finding anything.  Am I doing something
stupid or what?

Any info is appreciated.

Please email.  Thanks.

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From: lsimon@paradyne.com (Lenny Simon)
Subject: NFS Write Error 13 on host
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:33:24 GMT

Trying to reboot a client from the server I am getting the
NFS Write Error 13 on host hostname num1... num8

followed by

touch: Cannot change times on /: Permission denied
(I know this is coming from the rc file but don't understand why).

I do a showfh on the num1-8 and it shows that wtmp is the culprit. This
is because of permissions. Don't understand why the permission problems.
My exports file seems to be OK. 

Does anyone have any clues?
From: se@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Steve Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: setting up anonymous ftp
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:58:38 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

Somewhere recently I've read of a document describing
the steps to take in setting up an anonymous ftp facility.
Now that I've forgotten where I saw it, my boss has asked
me to get hold of it.
I turn to the net for help! Can anyone tell me where I can
find the document?

Steve Elliott, systems programmer
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From: mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Subject: Re: Questions about booting from a floppy. (IPC)
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:07:47 GMT

Booting from the floppy is a neat idea, but consider...
	1) Where are you going to SWAP?
	2) Before the booted system will be useful, you'll need
		2a) init
		2b) sh
		2c) mount
		2d) ifconfig
		2e) hostname

I'm sure there are other concerns.  init+sh+mount+ifconfig+hostname
is somewhere around 500K, just a little too big to put on the same
floppy as /vmunix (which can be about 900K).  Then there's the
issue of swap space...  Maybe Solaris 2.0 solves this?  I've heard
that it doesn't require swap > mem, which implies that swap = 0
might be OK?

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From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Amd is not perfect
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:00:41 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <cornell.714092734@vivaldi> cornell@syl.dl.nec.com writes:
|Jumping into this thread a little late but just wanted to contribute
|a "me too".  I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 on a network of Sun4s.  I'm using
|a combination of regular NFS mount and Sun's automount to mount file
|systems from a Sun 4/470 w/128M RAM.  Every few days, I see the problem
|of the load average going up to around 6-12 and hanging there for a
|while.  A look at 'top' shows nfsd's sitting up at top.  After a bit
|it all goes back to normal.  I can't reproduce it but it happens
|quite often.

  That's not a problem with any of your mounts or NFS, most likely, but
more likely one of your client machines doing a recursive directory/file
search like a "find", "rm -r", etc. over NFS...  Another likely culprit is
someone doing high-speed small-size writes to a file (such as from a C-program)
over NFS - this can take over all of your NFS daemons also, and can really
cause trouble if it is writing into a partition that has quota's enabled
and/or the filesystem is close to full.

  Next time it happens, fire up any network monitor utility (I use "ethertop")
that will show you where packets are coming from that are destined for and
originating from the machine that shows the NFS deamons taking up a high load.
Once you locate the culprit machine, log into that machine and do a "w" or a
"ps -agxu" (sometimes "w" won't show it) to find out who is running the
offending program.

  Then tell them to "QUIT IT"... :-)

  Of course, you might want to make sure that *you* aren't doing it via a cron
job that is improperly constructed - like a "find" without an "-xdev" option
or somesuch.

  It used to happen all the time, here, and we have a network of about 140
Sun4s (all flavors) and sun3s.

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From: mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Subject: Re: Problem with Netgroups
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:54:56 GMT

In article <14116@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
|> >IMHO, exportfs should be rewritten to allow netgroups also be specified
|> >in root and rw.
|> 
|> The way "-root" and "-rw" currently work is that a list of IP addresses
|> is shoved down into the kernel.
|> 
|> If netgroups could be used in "-root" and "-rw", you'd probably have to
|> arrange, somehow, that file systems using a netgroup in "-root" or "-rw"
|> be re-exported whenever the netgroup's list of members changes.

Yes, but how often are netgroups changed?  Seems silly to make
exportfs -root= so difficult to manage for such an infrequent
occurrence!

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From: gerd@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gerd Neugebauer)
Subject: Re: Running DNS without NIS?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:45:59 GMT
Organization: TH Darmstadt

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 01:12:44 GMT, ptrubey@netcom.com (Phil Trubey) said:

PT> In SunOS 4.1.2, is it possible tun run DNS without NIS?  I suspect that
PT> some resolver routines would have to be replaced and libaries
PT> relinked. Is this feasible?

Yes, it's quite easy. The program resolv+ can do it for you.  I think
the most current version is 2.1-beta.  I have located it on
liasun3.epfl.ch [128.178.36.30] in pub/net/dns/resolv+-2.1-beta.tar.Z
(ask you archie for a site near you!)

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From: mgoddard@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Anonymous ftp & pwd problem.
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:41:05 EDT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

I am also trying to set up anonymous ftp.  I managed the dynamic ls but
then tumbled somehow on pwd.  An anonymous user who tries pwd is greeted
with <getwd: can't open ... .

I'm running 4.1.1 on an IPX.  What have I screwed up?

[Advice by netmail is preferred.]

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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Problems with shelltool on remote display
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:56:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.103617.164789@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de> hoehle@lindau.inf-wiss.ivp.uni-konstanz.de (Joerg-Cyril Hoehle) writes:
:pava@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Robert S. Unoki) writes:
:
:>I am having problems when attempting to run a shelltool via rsh on a
:>remote machine.  The shelltool window appears correctly, but no
:>prompt is presented.  The following error is returned to the shell that
:>invoked the rsh command:
:>
:>ttysw-TIOCSPGRP: Interrupted system call
:
:I sometimes get exactly the same behaviour simply by asking for a commandtool
:from the OW3 menu.
:

I believe that the OW 2.0 doc indicated that one should use setsid before
invoking cmdtool or shelltool from the menus - the problem listed was that
PGRP error mentioned above.

Try something like:


rsh machine /usr/etc/setsid /usr/openwin/bin/shelltool

or perhaps

"Cmdtool..." exec /usr/etc/setsid cmdtool

in your menu and see if the problem doesn't go away.
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From: dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber)
Subject: NIS and DNS. Any problem to expect?
Organization: Ascom Autelca AG, Guemligen, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:09:14 GMT

In a few weeks I have to move our communications server from a
HP9000/835 HP-UX8.0 to a SPARCserver 4/490 with SunOS4.1.1 (eventually
4.1.2).
As I read the comp.sys.sun.* groups regurarly, I remember that there
was once a problem running NIS server and DNS server concurrently on a
sun. Setting up a sun DNS client is a cake (just 'make' in /var/yp
with the -b switch activated in the Makefile, and creating
/etc/resolv.conf). However, I believe I read once something about
patching some binaries, if DNS and NIS should run together...
Anybody knows more?

I also move others from the HP to the Sun:

- mailhub (sendmail configuration)
- NNTP
- CNEWS (at the moment I'm running cnews27Aug91 on the HP. Are there
  any advantages if upgrading to a newer version?)
- NN (6.4.16)

Does anybody know if I have to expect problems?

Thanks in advance

Daniel

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From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Subject:  EXB-8500 DUMP Parameters?
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 17:04:10 GMT

I'm sure this must be a FAQ, but I don't see any recent references
(that actually answer the question).

What are the appropriate parameters for using DUMP on a Sun system (4.1.2)
to an Exabyte 8500 5.0GB drive?

(if you send email, I'll summarize).
Thanks,
Bill

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From: stz@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Stephen Zehl)
Subject: HELP with 4/490 SCSI Device IDs for SCSI disk drives.
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:24:12 GMT

-

	Sun does not recommend putting SCSI disk drives on the SCSI bus of a 
4/490, but everyone else has told me that there is no problem with doing it.
I have been unable to find anything to help me set the SCSI device IDs of the 
drives.  Does anyone have multiple SCSI drives hanging off a 4/490 that could
tell me the SCSI device IDs they used and what what drive device that is
associated with. for example, here are the settings for a Sparc2s internal
drives:

	Drive Number		SCSI Device ID		Drive Device
        ------------		--------------		------------
	     1			      3			    sd0
	     2			      1			    sd1 
	      

	Also, how many drives can I daisy chain off of the SCSI bus, I already
have 2 tape drives and a cdrom on it.

	Thanks.

Stephen Zehl
Systems Admin. Princeton University Cognitive Science Lab
Princeton, NJ
sz@clarity.princeton.edu
From: ctravis@cesar.West.Sun.COM (Cynthia Travis SUN Phoenix SE 602-275-5537 x48)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: AppleShare on the Sun Recommendations
Date: 19 Aug 1992 16:08:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ctravis@cesar.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: cesar.west.sun.com

In reply to John DeRosa's search for software that will allow Machintosh
users to mount Sun filesystems (other than Pacer Software and CAP).

I have had good experience with IPT's Partner software.  To reach them:

IPT
555 Chorro Street
San Luis Obispo, CA  93405
(805)541-3000
(805)541-3037 Fax
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From: jsweet@ics.uci.edu (Jerry N. Sweet)
Subject: HP clients crash olwm 2.0?
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:03:50 GMT


- Clients run on an HP 9000/7xx with HP/UX 8.0;
- the server is olwm 2.0 on a color SPARCstation IPC running SunOS 4.1.2.

The problem: olwm dumps core after running an HP client for some
indeterminate amount of time---within minutes, but usually under half
an hour.  This has been observed to happen with Epoch running on the
HP and with HP SoftBench.

Does olwm 3.0 interoperate properly with HP clients?
From: kreisel@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Robert G. Kreisel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: df lock-up fix?
Keywords: df
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:16:15 GMT
Organization: Army Materiel Systems Analysis Activity

I have an old Sun3 workstation, and am running SunOS 4.0.3.  I have
several disks that I have mounted over the network via nfs.  If I do
a df, to find out how much disk space I have available, I can find out
the info on all the disks.  Now, the problem comes when one of the remote
machines is down.  df can find the info on that disk, because the system
is not up.  df seems to just sit there and re-try.  I can not do a cntrl-C
to break it.  I even tried logging in from another window and doing a
kill -9 on df.  No luck!  The only thing I could do to kill it was to
reboot.

Any suggestions?

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: db@sunbim.be (Danny Backx)
Subject: Re: olwm problem on ncd19c
Reply-To: db@sunbim.be
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:32:44 GMT

In article 391@csc.canterbury.ac.nz, cctr114@csc.canterbury.ac.nz () writes:
>A user running olwm on a SPARCserver 690 and displaying on an NCD19c
>often gets the following error message when opening or resizing a 
>window.
>
>X Error:  BadAlloc
>  Request Major code 53 ()
>  Request Minor code 0
>  ResourceID 0x1400023
>  Error Serial #236
>  Current Serial #240
53 is X_CreatePixmap (you can see that in /usr/include/X11/Xproto.h).
Since the error BadAlloc, this probably means your application is trying to
allocate a pixmap, and the NCD doesn't have sufficient memory for that.

Try adding memory to your NCD.

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From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Sun NFS clients need root access?
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:30:48 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi all,

I administer a group of 10+ SS1s and IPCs running 4.1.2, running NIS, and
DNS served from an external IPC.  I've found a small NFS problem:

In order for a file system to be available to another Sun workstation
via NFS, I seem to have to export it with root access!  That is, in
a:/etc/exports "/usr/local -access=b:c:d" isn't sufficient.  The mount on
any of the clients goes like this:

% mount a:/usr/local /mnt
mount: access denied for a:/usr/local
mount: giving up on:
	/mnt

But if I make a:/etc/exports read "/usr/local -access=b:c:d,root=b:c:d"
everything works fine.  This is not the behaviour described in the
manpages, it is not the way it used to work, and it is not the case for
clients other than Sun workstations.  I even have i386's running OS/2 that
mount Sun file systems without needing this!  Conclusion is that the
problem lies with the Sun client s/ware or it's configuration.  Any clues
anyone?

Replies by email please,

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From: jmyers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jennifer Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP: printing from Sun with a NeXT printer server
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:19:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug17.191953.15763
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois

The "extended" character set: start and end quotes, the raised 
tilde, ligatures for fi and fl, etc., are apparently mapped 
differently on the sun and on the NeXT.  This has unfortunate
implications since I send print jobs from the Sun to the NeXT
to be printed on a NeXT printer.  The result is that the extended
characters in my documents are mapped to unintended extended 
characters when printed.

For example, the bullet prints as the yen symbol, the fi ligature 
prints as AE, and the raised tilde prints as the florin.  

In fact just about every extended character is mapped differently,
save a few which are mapped the same, apparently by chance.  

I'm hoping that someone else has also encountered this problem 
and can inform me of a filter that can be placed between the
Sun and the NeXT to perform the necessary transformation.

Please send replies to jmyers@nwu.edu

Thanks,
Jennifer Myers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: rlogin as root works but can't access imported filesystem as root
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:12:31 GMT

In article <21AUG92.16194077@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
|I've got a problem. Our external disk on our server is exported
|over our three SPARCstation II network and it's filesystem is
|available to me as root if I rlogin as root from one of the
|other two SPARCstation II's. However, if I merely access the
|filesystem and attempt to descend into root access only directories
|I get a privelege violation error even though I'm accessing the
|filesystem that was exported to this workstation from the server
|and I'm root on both with the same password on both???
|Can somebody point me in the right direction?? I feel like I've
|become the guest of honour at a Mexican birthday party!

RTFM?

  Your /etc/exports file on the server is not set up to allow you to do this.
Look at the man page for "exportfs" and look for the "-root=" option.

  To summarize: the /etc/exports file on the server is not exporting the
filesystem to your system with the "-root=yourmachine" switch.  /.rhosts
doesn't affect this, nor does the same password for root for the two machines
have any affect - so, although you can rlogin to the server as root and
access the filesystem directly, you have to tell the nfs processes on the
server that *your* machine's root is trusted to have root access to the
exported partition that you are importing.  See the man page on "exportfs"...

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From: mario@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mario Nigrovic)
Subject: Trackball for a Sun?
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Keywords: Trackball
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:15:43 GMT

Hello out there.  I have a simple question:  I'm getting tired of
my sun mouse constantly gumming up and taking the pad with it whenever
it gets moved, so I'm wondering if there is a trackball available for
Sun workstations?  Please reply by email, and I'll summarize if
anyone is interested.

If you know rough price, please include that info.  Thanks!

							Mario

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From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: Help:Sun workstations cant find .Xdefaults fonts for openwin
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:30:14 GMT

I defined my FONTPATH to be $OPENWINHOME/lib/fonts (?) + some other directory
paths on the sparc file server where we deposited fonts provided us by Tektronix
with their XP27 and Xp330 tekXpress x-terminals.

The teks and Pc's (pc-nfs/humminbird eXceedp software via telnet to sun sparc
file server) work just fine. I think the Teks looks at a file called fonts.tbl
for fonts.alias and fonts.dir to find its fonts. (I've included those paths
in FONTPATH).


The problem is when I start openwin, it cant find the new century, courier bold,bitstream charter fonts I setup in my .Xdefaults.

I don't know much about x-terminals or the sun yet. I assume that the sun font
reader either does not use FONTPATH at all, or these fonts need to be setup
differently, somehow. All fonts physically live on the sun file server to which
we telnet to from the Tek's and Pc's; I'm not sure how the sun's work.

The fonts I defined in .Xdefaults are just the ones I found by doing xlsfonts
after openlook windows start up. I noticed that on the sun workstations, doing

an xlsfonts gives me fonts that are not listed when I do xlsfonts from the TEk's, namely something like coubo.something.12--these are the font formats used
in the sun .defaults file. I have not added or built any additional fonts.
The teks, I believe used fonts in .snf format. Can't the sun workstaions use
the 

these just as well?

do I need to something more elaborate than just defining font paths?
what magic do I need to get the sun font reader to give me more than the default "lucidasans" fonts?  Where on the sun does the default fonts get defined;
I could find (so far) no file that references "lucidasans" as default.??

thanx for answering,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu

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