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From: anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Return your money to the poor Chinese children, Some of your CSS's!!!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 03:39:04 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
Reply-To: anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au
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lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:

>The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and 
>independent organization to raise money promoting the education 
>in rural China. All donations are tax-deductable. Make checks or 
>money orders payable to: "SOS China EducationFund"; c/o Jie KANG, 
>2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.

I believe a large amount of Chinese Students and Scholars (CSS)
went to US after they obtained financial support from China's
National Educational Committee. Once they were in the US, they 
did everything to remain there, not only they refuse to return
to China to do the five year service period, but also they refuse
to _pay the money back_ to China's Educational Committee.

Much of China's foreign currency is obtained by selling toys to 
the US, but these lovely CSS's even campaigned for ToyCot! It is 
clear that they do not seem to care about the welfare of ordinary 
Chinese people, yet they try to convince people around the world 
that they represent the best of China. Indeed they are very small 
people - make personal gain by damaging others.

I know a vice Party-Secretary of Department from a University
in Beijing, who successfully won the favor of his superiors in
the Department and University, and was considered most reliable. 
Then he was sent to the US as a diplomat serving at the Chinese 
Embassy - a usual reward for young party officials. When he 
realized that there was no other way to stay the US, he became 
a defector without any hesitation - while the University was
preparing him a higher position. He let them down. The lesson: 
don't trust those CSS's who claim they are fighting for human 
rights or democracy - they will disappear when they think they 
have made enough personal gains.

For those who still have some conscientiousness, it's time to
make some contributions to the education of _your own country_
- better do it before your become a 2nd-rate citizen in the US.
 


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1069@wc08.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Re: Does Fudan Univ in Shanghai have internet access?
Organization: Comp. Sci.  York Univ.  Toronto
	<1ierljINNcjr@apache.dtcc.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:06:51 GMT

### On 6 Jan 1993 09:51:31 -0500, wang@apache.dtcc.edu (Wang Gang) said:
Wang% NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dtcc.edu

Wang% In article <1993Jan6.071245.26821@netcom.com> jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
>Can someone tell me just why only one Univ has access to the net in 
>China...Seems unbelievable...    
>
>Would love to hear from any CCP guys that can defend this state of affairs.
>


Wang% Every once a while I will read those silly questions from new-comers.

Wang% Would you please get some study before you trash this newsgroup?

Wang% ftp to ifcss.org, and READ before you ASK!!!

Wang% I am not a CCP, but I still love my country.

Wang% --wang

There was a FAQ for SCC two months ago.  The guy said he want to post
it on news.answers and archive it on pit-manager.mit.edu.

It seems he is not yet successful.  But at least try ifcss.org or
achkg.org(?).

BTW, this FAQ mentioned some good information on Chinese network.


--
Ming He                                   sosc1069@reader.yorku.ca
From Beijing, China.  Like to watch to the transference of data.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:03:40 GMT

..deleted... 
>
>	You haven't answered the *implied* question. If you are in the group
>I delineated (believe in qi gong, but don't believe in the miracles), and
>you say that anyone can master qi gong, then why can't Jesus have had qi gong?
>
>Mark

I guess it may be better for you to explain what you meant exactly by "miracles"?
and also what are you implying?

David W.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mjwang@hfglobe.intel.com (Minjing Wang)
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:26:31 GMT

zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang) writes:

>A very interesting picture ( 4 parts ) is posted.  You may
>guess what the title is.  After you see the picture, I will
>tell you where I got it and what its name is.

>Note: how decode the pic:

>1. remove the headers from each part.
>2. cat part1 part2 part3 part4 | uudecode 
> 
>That's it.  

>Zhang YaoEn

Your contribution is appreciated, but there are more appropriate
places to post them: alt.binaries.pictures or its subgroups.

Minjing Wang
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Keywords: Terrible conclusion
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:43:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University

In article <1ishu5INNs9b@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
<In article <106560@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
< (deleted)
<  But how do you explain Mao's "direction": " Yao4 Wen2 Dou4, Bu2 You4
<Wu3 Dou4" ( Fight with your pens, not with guns )   
<  Mao never encouraged people to fight/kill each other during CR.
<  That's my understanding, tell me yours if you don't think it;s right.

Unfortunately you are wrong. Yes, Mao said: "Yao4 Wen2 Dou4, Bu2 You4
Wu3 Dou4", but when?

And when he said: "Yao Wu Ma" ?

-- 
The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
From: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Picture, Lin Mei Zheng
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:26:59 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

A picture of Miss Lin Mei-Zheng has put on the directory
/incoming @ ifcss.org.

You can use "anonymous" ftp to get it.

Yaoen 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu)
Subject: Re: Hints on moving to Shanghai?
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:12:02 GMT

In article <1472500018@igc.apc.org> An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>fm: Goetz Kluge, anlyyao@igc.apc.org (my wife's EcoNet account)
>re: Residency of wife from Taiwan of German expatriate in PR China
>    and other Questions on moving to Shanghai
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  
>--- Customs Inspection in China ---
>Any experience (as I had in Korea) with equipment, that had been damaged
>during customs inspection (i.e. damages, which obviously only could have
>occured outside of the packing container)? Will my PC survive?

Your PC will survive for sure because my PC survived during my last trip
there. However it is better to have your PC go with your plane together. Bye
the way, your wife can bring a PC with her without paying duty if she 
has not been in the country since 1993 (which is maybe not).
 

>  Goetz Kluge
> 
>Seoul 1993/01/02
> 
>

HU MIN
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:24:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1993Jan05.202000.16871
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan5.173647.25246@rd.hydro.on.ca> rkng@rd.hydro.on.ca (Ron Ng) writes:
>People in the western world tend to have an impression
>that the illiteracy rate in China is very high. Is this
>true nowadays? Does anyone have some sort of statistics?

Well, it's usually called a "literacy rate" so your own
choice of words shows that this impression is still quite
strong. Can't say that I know about it though, but I do
remember a Chinese teacher from China we had who grew up
in the country and whose hanzi looked terrible. When
someone mentioned it she said she hadn't learned them
until she was 14 or 15. It seems like something happened
right about 15 years ago where they started opening up
a little more to teaching writing to their children. Maybe
someone else can say what did happen.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tad Perry      Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: carl_@nwu.edu 
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:32:26 GMT

In article <C03I3H.M5@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)  
writes:
> In article <C03GM9.82G@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang  
Yuanxin) writes:
> >In article <9212301920.AA21214@gandalf.gso.uri.edu_>  
cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:
> >>|>    they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of  
$billions
> >>|>    Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.
> >>|> 
> >>|>       -- I feel better now.
> >>
> >      Me too.

> There are more to come, according to People's Daily. It said something like
> Frence will be ultimate loser. I am not soure whether the threat is going to
> be carried out. I think it should. I Watch out there might be a West
> conspracy, Given the time conincidence among Patten, F16, Mirage issues.

For everything you don't like, there is a "west conspiracy". I guess you would  
think that there was a "west conspiracy" behind, say, the Great Famine/great  
leap. West is indeed the greatest evil. They even dared to conspire to let  
millions of Chinese starve to death during early 1960. They even dared to  
conspire to let thousands of innocent people got killed simply because they are  
landlords. They even dared to consprie to start the Culture Revolution and make  
tens of thousands of intellectuals' lives miserable (except your parents, oh,  
your parents might not even be intellectuals). 

Carl

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~})
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Keywords: Terrible conclusion
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:56:26 GMT

In article <106560@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>In article <93Jan8.155931est.56@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
>>I think the real problem is that all people went crazy during CR, and
>
>This is ridiculous. First of all, the most of farmers were basically
>not involved in the crazy, that is why the fighters could be still fed
>for fighting.

This is because the farmers had went crazy a few years before CR, and
suffered for it. (Okay, only A FEW farmers were REALLY crazy but the
rest of them were dragged into the craziness anyway.)  By the time of 
CR, most farmers (who survived the earlier craziness, that is) had seen 
through CCP's painted skins.

CR was a big disaster for city folks, intellectuals, and CCP big shots,
but the real disaster for farmers were "communization" and "3-year
disasters".  Ever since I was a kid I was constantly told of the horror
stories of this period (yes, including cannibalism).  At first I thought
those were the same sort of horror stories told in school text books
(about the KMT era). By the time of Junior High most kids probably 
have figured out.  [You may have noticed that your college classmates 
from the countryside generally tended to be more "reactionary" and less
enthusiastic about CCP's tricks, especially when comparing to city
kids who have not suffered through "going up the mountains and down
to the villages".]

 Ya-Gui Wei
From: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Vectorized Chinese Font Lib
Keywords: Chinese Font Vector
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:27:57 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <C0AuH2.M6v@cs.mcgill.ca> haiying@cs.mcgill.ca (Haiying ZHANG) writes:
>In article <1334@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>>As far as I know, there is no vector Chinese fonts available.  Back in
>>
>>to create all Chinese characters coded with strokes.  Each stroke is
>
>   I am surprised by your ingenuity. But before we get into any further
>discussion on vectorizing Chinese, I want to ask some simple questions.

From: wang@oews17.decnet.lockheed.com
To: "zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu"@eagle.decnet.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Chinese outline font

MS Windows Chinese Version is available in Taiwan, I got it when I went back 
there last year.  Its list price is NT5,000.00 (roughtly about $200.00), but I 
am sure you can get a cheaper price.  
The beauty of this software is that you can use practically every Windows 
softwares in the market under the Chinese environment, and every printer used in 
the normal windows environment could be used in Chinese version.
This version is developed in Taiwan by MS, it uses Big 5 Chinese code. There are 
a few input methods, the one I am using is phonetic input method.

If you want to know anything else in particular, let me know.

Happy New Year !

Li Wang
From: zpy@lpf.umd.edu (Zhiping You)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Univ. of Maryland Open Wei-Qi Championship
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:17:46 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


		Tournament Annoncement

	University of Maryland Open Go (Wei-Qi) Championship

  This is the third Open Go Championship organized by the University
of Maryland Go Club. The first two tournaments (which were in Jan. of
1990 and 1991) were very successful. We had about 50 players at each
tournament and we expect more to come this year. The tournament is AGA
rated. 

Format:

  Five round tournament,  open to all players.
  Time limit: 1 hour per player and 20 moves in 5 minutes for overtime.

Schedule:

  Sat. Jan. 9th  9:30 - 10:00 Registration
  Sat. Jan. 9th  10:30 First Round
  Sun. Jan. 10th 12:00 Fourth Round

Place: 

  University of Maryland College Park Campus
  Tortugal Room (inside Stamp Student Union)

Tournament Fee: $20.
  
Contact Person: 

  Gang Li   (301)422-2659
  Gang Chen (301)209-0057 gchen@math.umd.edu

Direction: 
  
  Take I-95, get on the Washington Beltway (part of which is still
called I95), exit at U.S. Route 1 (exit No. 25.), take south along
Route 1. After a couple of miles you will see a Jerry's Pizza on you
right. Cross a small bridge after Jerry's Pizza, make a right into the
campus (east entrance). Follow that road, you will see a sign for
public parking. Ask any person for Stamp Union.

P.S. For Chinese student only:

If you don't mind, we can find some Chinese student's living room
for you to stay in Saturday night. You have to call in advance, since
the number of places that we can find is limited.



-- 
Zhiping You
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:39:29 GMT

In article <3994@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang) writes:
|> A quick note about the "Interesting Picture" I posted a while ago.
|> 
|> The method to decode the picture I suggested is not working right.
|> I believe you have to use an editor (like, vi) to join them together,
|> then use "uudecode" command.
|> 
|> Yaoen 


Using "cat part1 part2 part3 part4 | uudecode"
then change mode of resulted file new.gif through "chmod 777 new.gif"
finally:  "xview new.gif" or "xloadimage new.gif" would be able to do it. 

Note: "xv new.gif" is not working in this case.    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: [name] compound surnames
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:37:24 GMT

     Someone brought up the topic of compound Chinese surnames.  I have
heard that those who had compound surnames had their ancestors being
court officials (high-ranked government official).  Is this true?

     Take the co-incidence of:
  /      -+- \ / /  
 /        /   X     	(controller + student)
 --|     --| / \    
I call it a coincidence because it is also the name of a (Mongolian?!) rank.

     However, did this:
 +-- -+- /   /-+ \ /  /     
 |   /        /|  X  /      	(what + east)
 /   \--     / / / \ ---    
became a surname?  Or was our high-school teacher only joking that if
this person became famous, then its name would become a surname in itself?

					Zhong1 Qi3 Iao2 (Mr.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: rkng@rd.hydro.on.ca (Ron Ng)
Subject: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:36:47 GMT

People in the western world tend to have an impression
that the illiteracy rate in China is very high. Is this
true nowadays? Does anyone have some sort of statistics?

+-----------------------------------------------------+
|  Ron Ng, Operations Research, Ontario Hydro, Canada |
+-----------------------------------------------------+
|  E-mail: Ron.K.Ng@hydro.on.ca                       |
+-----------------------------------------------------+ 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jun@phys.psu.edu (Jun Wang)
Subject: Re: Three Gorges Dam Project
Organization: Penn State, Department of Physics
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:40:02 GMT

Ignore it. It is a test.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ij27@sol.acs.unt.edu (Gaddamanugu Vishwa Prasad)
Subject: HELP REQUESTED FOR FINDING THE FOLLOWING INTERNET ADDRESS
Keywords: TRYING TO FIND ZHENFANG LI
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:52:00 GMT

I am trying my friend's friend in china whose mailing address is as follows:
	TCN/DIALCOM:141:TCN302
Any sort of help in this matter would be greatly appreciated
Pl. send your repies to my address given below.

Thanks in advance
Vishwa P. Gaddamanugu
ij27@sol.acs.unt.edu

or

Wei Luo
fg24@vaxb.acs.unt.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: machang@llewella.uchicago.edu (Andrew C. Chang)
Subject: Re: Interesting Picture
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:11:15 GMT

In article <3996@creatures.cs.vt.edu> zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)  
writes:
> In article <7JAN199312521769@utkvx2.utk.edu> xic@utkvx2.utk.edu writes:
> >
> >I am wondering if this picture came from some Chinese magazine?
> >The editor is shameful.  Low taste.
> 
> Well, there is no need to comment on the picture anymore. I got
> this picture from a university newspaper.  It is called 
> "valentine day".   Surprise ? Maybe or maybe not.  Common on, do
> not called it low taste.  You got to enlighten yourself a
> little.  Just relax and enjoy.  "valentine day" is translated to
> "lover's day" in Chinese.  It is a nice holiday not just for the
> young, not married lovers, but also for the young couples.
> 
> I do not get the alt.binaries.pictures group.  That is why I
> posted into this net for fun.
> 
> Yaoen    

You don't need to blame yourself. Just do whatever you would like to do.
Don't be that so serious, relax...folks. We need to have some fun,  
sometimes, or always. 

Andy         
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ipacs@solomon.technet.sg (IPACS PTE LTD)
Subject: China
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:40:27 GMT


How is the InterNet Access in China like? I heard it is strictly controlled by the Government. Is there a way for a company to apply for InterNet Access. And
If possible who can we (a company in China involved in Research and Development)contact to apply for such access to InterNet.

Thank you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: umsui000@news.cc.umanitoba.ca (Shi Xiang Sui)
Subject: JOB OPTUNITIES IN JAPAN!!!
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong)
Subject: Re: Toycott Update 1/4/93
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:53:18 GMT

In article <1397@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>>I was trying to say that the people in Toycot are really doing harm 
>>to China, knowingly or not.  
>
>They really don't care since they are organized by American work union
>group (AIC? or something I don't remmeber from their last year's
>posting).

They are doing harm to America too. No cheaper labors, no cheaper toys. 

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