From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Sexual Arousal
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:07:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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  <74338@cup.portal.com> <1993Jan25.214416.14239@adobe.com>

Stan Chesnutt Wrote:
>In article <74338@cup.portal.com> DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes
:
>>>
>>
>>>I'm into bondage, motor oil, and anal plugs....
>>		   ^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Damn. I almost jumped out of my seat when I saw that -- I thought you
>>said, "MORTAL COIL."  *Sigh*
>>
>>----
>>/bruce 	"Where are the Shakespearian fiends?"
>
>Well, bruce's posts are irresistable to follow-ups.  The last time I posted
>was to propose a Schiller-boink, but I guess that is too obscure compared to
>a Babes&Dudes or whatever.
>
	"Babes & Dudes" sounds like an accounting firm -- Ashley Babes and
Johnathan Dudes the senior partners...

>Well, Bruce, don't worry.  The Shakespeareans are out here (there).  My

	Thank god... I know they are out there -- a lot of my friends are 
Shakespearean fiends. However, in this group, after following it for about -
err... 5 months? [Ohmigosh. 5 months? I have been here too long! -- and in the
immortal words of General James Stockdale, "Why am I here?" ... (by the way, I
shook his hands at my company xmas party in 1990 -- I have the photos to prove
it).  Anyways...] I havent seen much allusions and puns in the literary genre.
let me try to remember: 

	1) somebody posting from berkeley mentioned about James Joyce once and 
his wife Nora, in the "star gazing" thread. .  which produced a neat followup
from somebody who recommended the video "james joyce's woman." and a call to
read Joyce...

	2) Your "culture elite" quiz -- that was great, by the way! We had 
quite a bit of fun with that one!
 
 	3) A person posted from a "warehouse" in east bay, writing about being
alone and wanting to have that human contact, which is a follow up to a topic 
that Desiree started, about "being single and being alone". I would like to 
read more of his writing, because it's gut wrenching and -- as somebody else 
mentioned -- kind of has the "william s. burroughs" flavor to it. It does 
sound "beat." (So who ever you are, thanks for the posting. Hope to read more 
of that!). However, that thread quickly went into the flame pit so it was 
kind of disappointing.  

	4) Somebody from HP (I think it's Howard that runs the anatomically
Korrect BBS) that punned on "Farewell to arms" -- to which I followed with
"For whom the bell tolls"  ... but that didnt go too far.

	5) The puns around "Canonist" thread and my unwillingness to read
anything that's not yet canonized. Finally Stef Jones followed with a reply to 
me about "WCW (william carlos williams) and TSE (t.s.eliot)" -- two great 
poets of our modern age. That was cool. (thanks stef!)

	5) And this current discussion around, "Mortal Coil"

	That's about all I can remember as far as people imbedding literary
references and allusions in their msgs is concerned... And that's in a span
of 5 months...

>brother and I used to pun around with the "coil" used in automotive ignitions.
>My brother's belief was that if you touched the coil when it was fully-charged
,
>you'd get a killer shock.  Hence, the "mortal coil".  And didn't Lewis Carroll
>construct one of his characters with "fainting in coils" (painting in oils)
>as a hobby?
>
	Hmmm. I like that "fainting in coils" pun. There is a music group 
from England (recording on the 4AD label) that's called "Mortal Coil." I still
think the a semi-cute, semi-stupid literary pick-up line, 

		"Hey, wanna check out my mortal coil?" 
		"Ohh -- Shuffle off!"

is alright ;-)

>And we grew up in Louisiana!  Stifle those stereotypes about ignorant red-
>necks!  We wuz intellectual rednecks!
>
	I think the Bard's stuff is totally cool. It's timeless, and universal.
English is not my first language -- I didnt speak the language til like 13 
years ago. But I took a liking to the Bard's work right away... Just goes to
show that good writing transcends culture and geography... As for ignorant
red necks -- hey. there are cowboys who write boootiful poetry...

	Speaking of Louisiana -- I am going to Nawlins for Mardi Gras! I
will be hanging out at Cafe du Monde for a week -- I have never been there,
so it's sorta "undiscovered country" for me, from whose borne I may never 
return if I find my self infactuated with the place!

>Well, now that I've shuffled off from the original theme of this thread (ain't
>that a novelty on this newsgroup).  But I have your attention, at least.
>"Speakest thou, Caesar is turned to hear!"

	Hmmm. now that we have steered this thread to some useless direction,
I am pretty sure those with a "lean and hungry look" amongst us will try to 
flame us and wrestle the thread back from the hands of Mighty Caesar...
[What shall we say then when that happens? "Et tu, Brutus?"] (really, the
last words of Caesar were, "Ow! Ow! Quitit quitit! Ow! Cant we all get along?")
.
:-)

>Along the literary trend, most of the discussion in this newsgroup reminds me
>of the dialog in a fine Eudora Welty short-story "Petrified Man" (See, the
>South did rise again!  Welty and Percy are our new warriors!).  In this story,
>the usual gossip is conducted at the local beauty shoppe, with discussions of
>various folks' peculiarities delivered in a somewhat patronizing way.  One of
>the women's smart-aleck kids catches onto the hypocrisy and delivers the
>telling final line of the story:
>
>	"If you are so smart, why ain't you rich?"
>
>I'll leave it to the other commentators of the Net to explicate this telling
>denouement.
>
	I just hope to read more messages in this group that have a certain
artistic glaze ... so that I can pun around them ;-)

>-- 
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> Stan Chesnutt,  Adobe Systems			      chesnutt@mv.us.adobe.com

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