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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: What about Twain?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:05:09 GMT

In <1isgjdINN2k5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:

>Is there every going to be an episode with Twain coming back?
>I thought I heard somewhere that there was a hint that Mark Twain
>would come back to the future?


Yes, this will defintely happen with Marty and Doc Brown in the Delorian
and they will and head "BACK TO THE FUTURE" part 4. I don't think so...
and god, I hope not!

Alan Bick
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (rabjab)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: this whole wormwhole business
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:13:13 GMT
Organization: ucsd
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu

Alan Nourse wrote a story called "The Universe Between" in which
experiments with matter transmission turned out to be raising Cain
with a civilization in a parallel universe.  When something was
transported, even across a room, it would "smash" and kill in the
other universe.  To get our attention, "they" took about a cubic
kilometer chunk out of New York city.  Finally, we learned to communicate
with them and worked out a deal, which essentially worked out like this:
enter the transport chamber, sit in a chair.  Have your matter and energy
converted into another form.  "Porters" from the other universe then
come and carry you to the receivers' location.  Then you convert back
to the proper form.  

-rabjab
From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Question: Where is Keiko?
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:13:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:


>In a previous article, 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington) says:

>>O'Brien mentioned that Keiko was unhappy with the state of their quarters
>>when he escorted Sisco to his.  I assume she's there too...

>I could've sworn that O'Brien said that Keiko took the kid and went home
>to mom.  Guess I heard wrong, and she was only suggesting it.

I thought that meant that they were visiting her mom, not moving permanently.
I've seen publicity photos somewhere (I don't remember where) of Keiko on
Deep Space 9.

-- 
Tracy E. Finifter                      | Home address:  560 Gravelly Run
 finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu          |                Mays Landing, NJ  08330
 Douglass College - Rutgers University |                (609) 625-7369
 New Brunswick, NJ                     | Dialing in through Camden is not fun.
From: BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny Barnes  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: One LAST Time, O'Brien's rank.  After this, NO MORE OR B
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:52:54 GMT
Organization: Elon College
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In <1993Jan10.215710.608@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

>
> And that's it.  O'Brien is and always was a Chief Petty Officer, even
> though he wasn't. 
> 
> 
WRONG!

According to PARAMOUNT, O'Brien is a LIEUTENANT!  Read it on Page 143 of the
TNG Companion, 2nd column, 2nd from the last paragraph, published by POCKET
BOOKS which is owned by PARAMOUNT.
From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:50:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NCSA

In article <16B4D899F.JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu>, JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
wrote:
> 
> Another solution is to broaden the venue of ST:TNG to include more starships
> than just the Enterprise.  Let Picard remain captain of the Big E and promote
> Riker to captain another ship (and bring some of the crew with him).  Then
> Stewart can be in the shows that feature the E and Frakes can be in the rest.
> Riker's ship could have a different mission than the E, perhaps on the
> fringe of the galaxy and dealing with more varied and, maybe, more dangerous
> species and interacting occasionally with DS9.

This sounds like a command he *turned down* (I can't remember the name of
the ship).  It was the episode (bad) in which he bonds with his father.  In
fact, Worf wanted to go with him because of the excitement and danger (and
because he likes Riker).

James
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
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From: ternent@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu (John Ternent)
Subject: Re: STARTREK IS BUGGARED
Organization: Office for Information Management, University of Illinois
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:29:51 GMT

In article <1iifp5INNgcv@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> holland@geop.ubc.ca (Stephen Holland) writes:

>In article 1vE@monitor.com, michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan7.072418.12062@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>  
>>mhull@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr Mj Hull) writes:
>>> I HATE STAR TREK!! ALL TREKKERS ARE LOOSERS AND SHOULD BE CASTRATED!! GET A  
>>LIFE
>>[etc]
>>
>>Hold your fire, flamers!  Looks like someone forgot to log out.
>>(I'm sure that the real Mr. Hull would know how to spell "buggered"!)


>Please people, don't respond in any way shape or form to this type of post.

Well, but didn't you just do that?  Or did you mean "Please do not flame the 
poor bastard who left his terminal on." (Paraphrase from Robin Hood).

Just one more thing, sir... Did this person like or dislike the show? :-)

John
From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Best Episode
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:45:20 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

My favourite Star Trek List:

10) Encounter At Farpoint II
9) Man of the People
8) Q Who?
7) Rascals
6) The Loss
5) The Inner Light
4) 11001001
3) (I forgot the name, but it's the one where Troi, Riker, and Crusher fall
   into comas)
2) The Best of Both Worlds, II
1) Haven

			Just my $0.02
	"Oh no. Bleeeeeez no!" Lt. Troi, Haven

				ALF
From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DSN and TNG
Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:59:31 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu



I wonder if anyone compared the first episode of TNG, "Encounter at Farpoint"
with the DSN episode?

I can understand where people are saying is was terrible. But what do you
expect from the first show? I really didn't like the first episode of
TNG. However, I love the show now.
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Stolen From Outer Limits?
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:01:55 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1993Jan11.223524.24097@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, marchini@ds10 (Juan Marchini) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.045305.27553@netcom.com> rrunnern@netcom.com (Road Runner) writes:
>>Wolf-359, where the Borg battle was fought, just happens to be the
>>title of an OUTER LIMITS episode (playing tonight on PBS chan 54 in
>>the SF. Bay Area.)
>
>well, what's it about?

It's about how this TV show uses the name of a Real Live Star
In Our Galaxy in the screen play.  Several decades later, another
TV show comes along and uses the same name of the same Real Live
Star In Our Galaxy, which causes the same repeated accusations of
plagerism over and over and over again.

Pretty unrealistic, I know.  But that's "Outer Limits" for yah.

-- 
What I've learned from reading net news #1:
  It's important to do a lot of outside reading, because you never know
  where you might come across a clever quote you can use in your .sig file.
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From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart (does
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:13:09 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <9774.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) writes:
|> On Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:47:54 GMT, lenny@icus.ICUS.COM (Lenny Tropiano) wrote:
|> 
|> LT>A bit disappointed in seeing it was just the producers speaking for
|> LT>the fictional character, Jean-Luc... The style was Capt. Jean-Luc Picard
|> LT>giving a "Captain's Log" explaining a little bit about the space station,
|> LT>DS9.
|> 
|> Why disappointed?  The producers and writers are always responsible for
|> Picard's dialogue.  Patrick Stewart has nothing to do with Picard's words
|> as they appear in the script.
|> 
 I disagree, after establishing a personna of a character, the actor has
to have input into the kinds of language and delivery of the subject. 
This is why some characters come across flat, their actions and words
do not match the established personna. 
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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:51:20 GMT

In article <rawdon.726173695@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>
>Starfleet has offered Riker THREE commands of his own (all of which he's
>refused).  Apparently Starfleet doesn't think he's too young.  (For that
>matter, Christopher Pike, James Kirk and the young woman from "Conspiracy" all
>appeared to be as young or younger than Riker.)
>
>-- 

    Have you noticed that ST:TNG Captains ( those that have both the rank
    and position of captain ) appear to be comparable in experience and age 
    to ST:TOS Commodores?  Additionally, have we seen any commodores in the
    TNG ranks?  I can't remember any.

    On the subject of Riker:  As I mentioned in a thread on Jellico, Riker
    is a gifted tactician but a lously strategist.  Command of a "lesser"
    vessel is Starfleet's way of pushing Riker to develop his strategic
    command skills without giving him command of the flagship.  Rejecting
    Starfleet's offers IS stunting his career.  He should not be given 
    command of the Enterprise on any permanent basis, even considering his
    "field promotion" in BOBW-II.

        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
                                                               - Max

  | William R. Herndon               \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
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From: ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Data's Cat Poem Wanted!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:53:20 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

Well here's the poem. It's the best I can do:

Ode to Spot

Felius cattus is your taxinomic nomenclature
An endothermic quadraped carnivorous ny nature?
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.
I find myself intriqued by your subvocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications,
That obviates your basic hedonistic predolection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.
A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents.
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.
 
Oh, Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well developed cognative array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I none the less consider you a true and valued friend.

-----That's It.
Hope you enjoyed it.
Care of Lieutenat Commander Data
From: rfh3273@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Dick Harrigill)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ... an English-speaking Universe
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:17:29 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

In article <1992Dec29.110624.544@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>In article <SKLEPZI.22.0@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU>, SKLEPZI@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU (Steven Klepzig) writes:
>> There is no indication that I've seen that all the races/species/whatever 
>> encountered in TNG speak english or even english words.  Perhaps there is a 
>> small Universal Translator built into each comm badge that is translating 
>> for the crew...
>If there is such a device in the combadges, it isn't mentioned in the
>Technical Manual... 

Isn't it amazing that Star Trek can go throughout the galaxy
and communicate with nearly every imaginable being in English,
yet you go down to the local 7-11 and try to talk to the clerk...
:-)

-- 
Dick Harrigill, an independent voice from:     Boeing Commercial Airplanes 
M/S 9R-49  PO BOX 3707                       Renton Avionics/Flight Systems
Seattle, WA  91824                                  Computing Support
(206) 393-9539    rfh3273@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com    CDP, PP-ASEL
From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9:Emissary inconsitencies
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:05:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com

In article <1ihda8INNdak@transfer.stratus.com> det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland) writes:
>** SPOILERS AHEAD **
>
>
>
>In article <1iftfpINNenc@willow-farm.cit.cornell.edu> mss1@cornell.edu (Michael Scott Shappe) writes:
>>In article <C0E1E1.HHs.1@cs.cmu.edu> Matthew Gertz, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
>>writes:
>>>Question:  O'Brien indicates that DS9 has no shields.  Later, we
>>>hear that shields are failing.  What gives?  Did O'Brien rig something
>>>up in five minutes?
>>
>>O'Brien was...exaggerating. Remember that they used the deflector grid
>>for their little subspace-field-changing-the-gravitational-constant-of-
>>the-universe trick to move the station. So they've got one...but it's not
>>in good shape...
>
>I didn't see it that way.
>
>First of all, deflectors are *not* the same thing as shields, although
>they're closely related.
>
>What I think is that Miles simply hadn't *found* everything yet.  He had
>only been on the station for a short time (hours? days?).  The equipment
>was Cardassian built and much of it had been trashed during the Cardassian
>"farewell party".  He probably had to throw together a quick patch or
>two after Kira or someone pointed out the shield controls to him (which
>were probably nearby but not quite where Miles expected to find them).
>

A short while afterwards there is a bit of dialogue where O'Brien
says that he has managed to shield critical points but not the
whole station.  Major Kira then evacuates people to the "more
secure" locations.

I would say that when she first asks there were no shields.  Then
he emulates Scotty and rigs up some partial juryrigs.

-- 
____________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz    |     Im ain ani li mi li    |
| H_Markowitz@att.com | Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha |
|_____________________|____________________________|
From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DSN ratings
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:09:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan13.030914.3910
Organization: Western Washington University


The latest issue of BROADCASTING says that while all the ratings
arent in yet, the premiere of DSN is likely to be the highest rated
premiere of a syndicated show.  Only a few syndicated specials had
higher ratings.  My often-fuzzy memory says the number were supposedly
around 20 percent higher than the premiere of TNG all those
years ago.  The key point is Paramount has a hit - if it can keep the
ratings in that part of the galaxy.
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From: mhull@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr Mj Hull)
Subject: Re: STARTREK IS BUGGARED REPOST
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:16:08 GMT


Actually I did not post the original. It was some of my idiot friends.
I am a fan of ST and considering that I have bought the game (all versions
of it) and watch the show every time I doubt that I would have sent such a
post.

Sorry about that.

Mat.
From: eyring@cc.utah.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Data (Brent Spiner) was NOT the doc in Alien^s.  Charles Dance was.
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:24:50 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center





Doctor Clemens in Aliens^3 was played by Charles Dance
not Brent Spiner.

Sorry.
From: matownse@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mark Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST:VII ... It's Official!
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:03:43 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

>- I don't know whether this has been bouncing around the net in the weeks that
>- I've been off for Chrimbo, but on Saturday, on a British television programme
>- called Going Live (You US chaps and chappesses probably won't know it), they
>- had George Takei (Sulu) on for an interview.
>- 
>- In the small amount of time that he was on, he briefly announced (exclusivly)
>- that Star Trek 7 was _definiately_ going to happen.
>- 
>
>  Yup, it's been bouncing around.  Last Sept when the Creations Star 
> Trek convention came to town, Marina Sirtis, among others, said that
> ST VII was a definite go. No actors were announced, although it was
> said that this would be the final one, a crossover movie from TOS to
> TNG.  

Well, I just went to a Star Trek convention in San Francisco and Brent
Spiner (Data) was there and he said that none of the Next Generation cast
new of any STVII. So I don't know. He also said not to believe every word
Marina says..seriously!


-- 
Mark Townsend
CalPoly, San Luis Obispo, CA 
matownse@nike.calpoly.edu
From: cea1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Carolyn E. Adams-Price)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Deep Space 9 review -- Wow!
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:40:50 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

Carolyn Adams-Price
Department of Psychology
Mississippi State University
cea1@ra.msstate.edu
A
A
A
A
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From: pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:55:59 GMT

ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
: In <C0DC2p.GDn@csn.org> pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals) writes:
: 
: >1) From the viewpoint of show itself. Starfleet has  a highly decorated
: >   Captian that needs to be promoted (if for nothing else utilize his
: >   considerable skills with a more demanding responsibility), However, he's
: >   not quite ready for a StarFleet Hqts job. 
: 
: Huh?  You mean the same Captain who the offered promotion to admiral
: and command of Star Fleet of Academy?

Sorry, what I meant was that Picard himself is not ready for a Hqts job. He
still yearns for the challenge of the unexpected that the Enterprise
provides. As you say StarFleet has already offered him an Administration job.
They're ready, he's not.
: 
: >   They also have a Commander, who
: >   in the past has Captained the Enterprise with honors but his general
: >   inexperience leaves enough doubt to hedge their bet 
: 
: No military organization hedges bets on the commander of a major
: warship.  If they had any doubts at all, he wouldn't get the job.
: (That's not to say they couldn't be wrong, but, again, they wouldn't 
: give the ship to a Captain who needed a babysitter.  Furthermore, I
: can't imagine anyone with the rank of Captain sitting still for such
: treatment, which would be a slap in the face.) 
: 
: > 
Don't kid yourself all organizations hedge their bets when they assign new 
managers (or in this case a Captaincy). If the tasks an organization is
to perform is vital to survival hedging is imperative. Also politics being
what it is it is almost happenstance that competance is considered at all.

As for being slapped in face by accepting the captaincy of the Enterprise
with the proviso of having Commodore (or Admiral) Picard stationed on board
just offer it to any commander in StarFleet and watch how many line up to be
slapped!

paul m.



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From: S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: 57 Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:40:25 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
In <rawdon.726173446@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writ

>>Gee, it sure looked like "temporary command" to me.  When Picard came back,
>>Riker was no longer in command.  Or are you using a different definition of
>>"temporary" than I am?
>
>At the time, Star Fleet didn't expect Picard to come back.  Remember,
>Admiral --- had written him off for dead.  And then, to reinforce the
>fact, he gave Riker command of the Enterprise.
>
>
>>It seemed to me that Riker was put in command because there was no time (or
>>resources) to get someone more qualified out to the ship, given the threat of
>>the Borg.
>
>He could have done that as a Commander or a brevet Captain.  But
>the Admiral promoted him to the rank of Captain instead.

A ship must have a Captain...since Picard was captured (i.e. MIA and
presumed dead) Riker was field commissioned as captain.  It is correct
that this promotion is in no way permenant and can be revoke if Starfleet
deems it necessary (a corrolary to this is all of the officers in WWII
promoted from 2nd Lieutenant straight to Major, as soon as they reached
the front, in order to maintain a command structure.  Most of these
colonels and majors lost their promotions.)This has two benefits;
an immediate repair in the chain of command (necessary in wartime, as
you don't want the captain of one ship overruling the Commander(nominal
captain) of another), and also the psychological benefit, both to Riker,
who must think of himself as a true captain and master of the vessell,
rather than an asbsentee landlord, and to the crew, who must accept Riker
as the new master and captain.

                                      -=Road Warrior=-
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From: messiah@nevada.edu (mw)
Subject: Re: Gorgeous Women and Lots of Sex!!!!!
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:36:52 GMT

In article <C0nMrz.84G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> aisa@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Charlie Festel) writes:
>
>You have just become the subject of a small psychological
>experiment.  The sole purpose of this post is to see how many
>guys (and perhaps gender-confused gals) picked this post to read
>out of the hundreds available simply because of the title.
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  
>

Does your "psychological experiment" allow for the fact that there is a
distinct margin of error in the assumption that people do not realize
the title is meant as bait? I suspected it, and then confirmed it, and I'm
sure there were others. 

I just love to throw people's ill-conceived experiments into chaos....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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From: cea1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Carolyn E. Adams-Price)
Subject: Re: Deep Space 9 review -- Wow!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:11:01 GMT

Deep Space Nine really was fantastic.  It had adventure, great characters,
wonderful acting, and deep philosophical questions intelligently asked.
Bravo!!!!!  I'm going to rewind the tape and watch it again.


Carolyn Adams-Price
Mississippi State University
cea1@ra.msstate.edu


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