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From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Takahashi's latest?
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:47:24 GMT
Organization: sumax city 0092

In article <axolotl.718594447@syzygy> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
> >according to the Oct. NewType's interview of Takahashi R. that she
> >has a short, 2 parts story appear on one of the mag for 4th (or is it
> >3rd?) graders, big king or something, anyone know anything about it?
>Any more interesting stuff in the interview?

hmmm, I went back and go over it, the story, the Moon King something, 
is on the Elementary 3rd grader mag on both Oct and Nov's issue.
not much in the interview, talk about the introduce of Ranma's mother,
talk about the difference between Ranma and Mermaid (like, how could
the same person did both?) talk about Mermaid and the influence of 
her major in college (History, Japanese History, etc),

>It's pretty sad if she's drawing manga just so they can be animated.

isn't it every manga artist's dream to have its works animated?  the
sign that he/she finally made it to the big time? :)

>Actually, I thought that the ending of the TV anime had given Takahashi
>a psychological boost which has been reflected in recent stories. ^_^

like, preparing for the end? :)  

>That'd all be nice.  But I'm not expecting great things from the ending.
>We might get one of those things. ^_^  For a while, I was wondering how
>she would end the series, and I thought that it would have to involve
>Ranma going back to China, all the supporting characters, and a really
>sinister bad guy.

I always thought the ultimate ending, is for everyone go back to China,
and Ranma had to make the choice between Akane and Nannechun, however,
the first movie kind of take the thunder out of my theory.....

wouldn't it be a great ending that everyone become normal, except Ranma?

>Well, I'll post a brief synopsis of this week's SS.  I won't say that it's
>the beginning of the end, but... ^_^

ummmm, I don't know, I have to wait until I see it, I guessed the ending
of City Hunter quite accurely simply because it gave a satisfactory 
finish to the beginning of the story. (kind of like KOR's tree story, 
it make sense)  this one......

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From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Subject: Re: Intron Depot, Ghost in the Shell
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.205402.29802@eng.umd.edu> whitefox@eng.umd.edu (M.S. Pope) writes:
>I've seen some postings about Masamune Shirow and some works of 
>his called INTRON DEPOT and GHOST IN THE SHELL.  Can anybody
>e-mail me some information on these (I assume they are separate
>works?) two titles.  From the postings, am I correctly inferring
>that the titles are volumes of color work by Shirow?  

I got to look through (but not buy) Intron Depot...this is the collection
of most of Shirow's color artwork!  It's big and glossy and high on my list
of things to acquire!  Apparently, there is only one version, as both
english and japanese captions are peppered throughout the book.  The book
is partitioned by work.  For example, there is an Appleseed section with
your favorite covers (including stuff for Appleseed 5!).  There are sections
containing work from his pre-Black Magic years, fantasy and SF magazine
work, and some computer game.  There are many many pictures of scantily-clad
girls climbing into battle armor (which Shirow cheerfully admits to being
fond of :)

Ghost in the Shell is the collected "episodes" of an ongoing series that
was published in some comic magazine.  It has about 64 pages of color artwork
interspersed with the regular tone art.  Most of it is not reproduced in
Intron, and I have no idea what it's about :(

I don't know where to find either of these, unfortunately.
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From: lenny@iti.gov.sg (Lenny Lim Kiong Peng)
Subject: Whats with Ranma 1/2 #22?
Summary: Offending material in Ranma?
Keywords: Censorship *sigh*
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:46:33 GMT

About three days ago I saw Ranma 1/2 on the shelfs of the local Kino. Thought
about buying it, decided not to.

Bad mistake.

Yesterday, back at the shop, I couldn't find a single copy anywhere. The lady
at the cashier told me that the censors got to it, saying something about
undesirable publications.

Now this really came as a surprise to me, considering that issues 1-21 got
through without any problem. Or maybe its just that the censors haven't got
to it yet...

Has anyone read issue 22? What might be offending about it? Nudity? (unlikely)
Religious references? Racial slurs? *ahem* "Undesirable behaviors"?

Inquisitive minds want to know. Thank you.


Kiong Peng
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From: rim@cs.columbia.edu (Howard Rim)
Subject: Re: Miyu - Manga vs OAV
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:26:16 GMT

In article <Oct.6.21.32.04.1992.19109@romulus.rutgers.edu> moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!) writes:
>	Well, Miyu doesn't actually kill people, but....I'm surprised
>you missed the story set at the all-girls school. The victim in that
>story is a perfectly happy, normal girl who witnessed Miyu feeding on
>someone. Then she rapidly started unwinding when she found out that
>Miyu was a student at the school, and kept watching her. Eventually,
>Miyu "convinces" her that she would be better off in la-la land
>because her big brother, whom she adores, has gotten engaged without
>telling her and implies that her brother will no longer have time for
>her in his life. She breaks down and lets Miyu bite her, without even
>bothering to see her brother (Miyu could have been lying for all she
>knew.)
>
Yeah, but lets examine more of the background of that girl (forgot her name).
 Basically her parents died and so she only had big brother.  Naturally he 
 became her emotional outlet.  The reason she went to the school was that
 since big brother is going off to college there is no one who can take
 care of her.  Big brother promises her that as soon as he graduates, he'll
 come back for her; then she breaks down into tears in his arms.  She seems
 rather indifferent of school, all she dreams about is that day when her
 big brother will come back for her and take her to live with him forever.

Miyu knows the truth about the girl's dream, that big brother really is not 
 coming to take her away; he's just going to drop by to say hi and 
 introduce his fiancee, then leave her.  In fact Miyu suffers a nightmare
 because of the girl's true sadness, Lavar is of course there to comfort
 her.  Miyu then confides in him that how lucky she is that she doesn't
 have any parents or brothers to hurt her by leaving her; that all she has
 is Lavar who will always remain with her. 

When Miyu does tell the girl about big brother, she quite naturally 
 breaks down into tears.  Why?  Perhaps because she already knew.  

The impression from the manga is that big brother forgot all about that 
 little promise.  Being a newly-wed, I guess having his kid sister move in 
 with him isn't too high on his priority list.

When you become a Christian you can't have fun
 is one of Satan's lies.
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From: whitefox@eng.umd.edu (M.S. Pope)
Subject: Intron Depot, Ghost in the Shell
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:54:02 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Originator: whitefox@coke.eng.umd.edu


I've seen some postings about Masamune Shirow and some works of 
his called INTRON DEPOT and GHOST IN THE SHELL.  Can anybody
e-mail me some information on these (I assume they are separate
works?) two titles.  From the postings, am I correctly inferring
that the titles are volumes of color work by Shirow?  Also, if the
works are worth acquiring, how should I acquire a copy?  In other
words, what mail-order firm should I contact to send me a copy and
how much should I expect to pay?  I've also seen mention of these
titles being distributed through Dark Horse Comics.  Should I get
these English equivalents, or should I stick with getting the 
original Japanese pressings?  Thanks in advance.

					M. Steven Pope
					univ of md
					college park
From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Dark Horse's Orion
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:28:15 GMT
Organization: sumax city 0092

well, as today Orion #1, with Macross #2 and B.A. Altia #4 hit the 
comic store in America.

some quick first impressions on the Dark Horse's version.

-very nicely bound outer cover, w/ a cover price of $3.95/53pgs, Dark Horse
did promise in the end of the book that later bi-monthly issues will
return to the regular pricing.

-they are using the same papers for Appleseed #4, and I think they are
too....waxy?  it gives the appreance of zerox or fax copy, which means
the dark appear even darker and the lighter side appear even lighter. 
I wish they could use a softer paper like the Japanese version.  oh well, 

-some of the translation could be better, mostly in some points they 
could have translated it literally, instead of giving us a foreign 
sounding name which only add to the confusion.  example
I think Dr. Snake Eyes would be a better translation compare to 
Dr. Hebime, (no one will understand what is a Hebime, everyone can 
understand why that guy got the name snake eyes.)  I could have swear that
in Anime Uk's preview version it is yangko and yineko, in the final version
it is yangerons and yinerons.  talk of vajra naga, kumaso Tendai, etc.
instead of translate its meaning simply confuse people more.  (how about
kumaso observatory? :)  and in many cases I think they make the translation
by sounds simply because they don't know how to translate them by meaning.
(hmmm, how do you translate Orbatos? king of the dark horse? )
 
they did not explain any of the double meaning in Shirow's wording so 
far, and I am looking forward to the next issue, when they have to do 
the translation of Susano's speech.  

-they printed the letters from 2 guys who got the preview version of Orion,
and they are obvious new comers, old time American comic reader, or
people who knows absolutely nothing about manga, etc. 
one guy is complaining that it is not in color, another guy complain 
the original version (which read right to left), One guy is glad that
the first issue is 'soooo' long.  (hmmm, holding onto my compilation
issue I wonder why he is glad for $4 for 53 pages), one guy is 
surprised to find out "that those Japanese comic artists can write, too'
both of them are totally hopelessly lost in the story. I guess Dark Horse
want to know the reaction of first time manga readers.  both readers
present the utmost biase from American comic readers.
(gee, what is wrong with those 'backward' bounding books?  I wonder,) 

all in all, a fair work, I think reversing the artworks and print
them on fax papers with half-way translation reduce the enjoyment 
from reading the original, but since not everyone could understand
Japanese, this is the best alternative.


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From: MATMNB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BRAZIL,Marcus N)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Barefoot Gen
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:09:29 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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Has anyone seen the animated film of Barefoot Gen, made in the mid-80's?
I saw a subtitled version of this film a few weeks ago and was very impressed.
In particular, I thought it was much better than the film of "Akira",
which apart from anything else was ruined for me by the crude dubbing
(and the ending). Apart from a few scenes of rather cloying sentimentality
Barefoot Gen struck me as a powerful and reasonably convincing depiction
of the bombing of Hiroshima. It makes an interesting comparison with the
live action Japanese film "Black Rain" which is on the same topic and also
highly recommended.
                   ....Marcus Brazil....
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From: cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Douglas)
Subject: Re: TV documentary on manga
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:06:26 GMT

axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

[stuff I had no wish to comment on has been removed]

>As far as I know, that is nonsense.  Can anyone think of any such
>manga which has appeared on Shonen Jump?  Did they mean Young Jump?
>Maybe I should try to frame-grab that panel for a r.a.m
>"name that manga" session.

It is very possible that they did mean Young Jump.  The japanese
word Shonen (assuming its with the Kanjis I am thinking of) means
"small year" which is used as a word meaning young boy.  (As in 
Mirai Shonen:  Konan (conan) => Conan the Future Boy).

Note, I haven't seen the documentary nor have I even hear of either
Young Jump or Shonen Jump.  I am just translating (which is hard to
do if you can't see the Kanjis.  Although it may even be worse if you
can :-}

>--
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From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: GODZILLA VS. BIOLLANTE
Keywords: Godzilla Japan Monster Biollante
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:05:26 GMT

GOJIRA TAI BIORANTE, released in Japan in 1989, is finally going 
to be released in the United States!

The film is going to be distributed on home video by HBO/Canon
Home Video in December. It is not going to be released in theatres.

More information will be available in about one month.




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From: torigoe@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Grant Torigoe)
Subject: looking for live action items
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 07:38:20 GMT



hello all,

i need your assistance.  i have a friend searching for memorobilia from
the japanese live action shows of the 70s and early 80s (ie kamen rider,
kikaider, go rangers, inazuman, battle fever j, etc.). if you have any
items you would like to sell (any at all) or know of places that sell such 
items, pleas email me.  any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanx in advance,

grant
From: lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: One More Video Girl Ai Thing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:47:55 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I also got a collection by the artist (who is the artist anyway?) which 
contained a short story which had a prototype of the Video Girl Ai 
stories.  Anybody know about this manga collection (its larger sized, ie. 
Same size as the Silent Moebius sides...)

Ben Koshy/Lone Wolf              lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 12:23:53 PDT
From: Jeff Siegel <7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject:      Re: Seeking Princess Maker
To: MANGA FANS! <rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net>

Albert,

Software (all types) in Japan is very expensive.  I think one reason is that
home computers are not as common in Japan as they are in the US in large
part due to their cost.  Two things probably run the prices up: lower
sales expectations  and the fact that if you own the machine, you can
probably afford to pay high prices for the software.


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>>> What do you get when you blow up a monkey?  Rhesus pieces! (author?)
From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Whats with Ranma 1/2 #22?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:48:52 GMT
Organization: sumax city 0092

In article <Bvu4C4.LID@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
>There were stack(s) of vol 22 at the bookstore(s) around here.

I just pick up Ranma #22 today at the SJ's Kino, which is about the right
time, (N. CA. is about 2 weeks late on shipment compare to S. CA.) 
so whatever it is must be a local thing at Singapore, or they are 
simply sold out.  

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From: Brenten.Calhoun@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Brenten Calhoun)
Subject: Buyer in Japan
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:19:48 GMT


    There was a guy here over the summer who sent out lists of the
various things he could send you (used/new) from Japan with a 15%
personal fee. Does anyone have this guy's email address still? Is there
anyone on who wouldn't mind doing a little manga-shopping for me? 

     brenten.calhoun@um.cc.umich.edu


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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Kujaku-Oh wide??
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: Megami Jimusho
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:02:59 GMT


In YJ #44, there's a couple of pages of ads for "Special Choice" Kujaku-Oh.
Unfortunately, I can't make out much of it without my translation stuff.

It seems to be a short story compilation (pictures of six monsters-
Sudama, Senmisaki, Yoroi Dama, Yamako, Funadama, Gaki).  I think it
says that it's B5 size, and will sell for 350 Yen at convenience
stores.  I could be wrong, though.


There's also an ad for Golden Boy, which I'm definitely going to scan.
^_^  And if anyone can buy Super Jump #21 for me, plz send email!

-- 
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
From: yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ITO Takayuki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Whats with Ranma 1/2 #22?
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:30:43 GMT
Reply-To: yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Info. Sci., Fac. of Sci, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.

In article <axolotl.718593797@syzygy> 
	axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

 >I can't think of any reason why it would be banned. Surely NOT the
 >bloomer ghost story at the end of the volume. ^_^  

  There might be a problem in p.131. In the page RANMA IS ABOUT TO
ASSAULT SHAMPOO. B-)

--
			ITO Takayuki <yuki@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
			Senior, Department of Infomation Science,
			Faculty of Science, University of Tokyo, JAPAN.
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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Takahashi's latest?
Summary: Ranma probably over before the year's out
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: Megami Jimusho
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:11:16 GMT

kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo) writes:
 >isn't it every manga artist's dream to have its works animated?  the
 >sign that he/she finally made it to the big time? :)

Yeah, but Takahashi should know by now, shouldn't she? :-)  Letting
her manga suffer so she can earn a couple of bucks on the side, it's
unforgivable!!  

 >I always thought the ultimate ending, is for everyone go back to China,
 >and Ranma had to make the choice between Akane and Nannechun, however,
 >the first movie kind of take the thunder out of my theory.....

Well, this week, Ranma manages to land one kick on Herb in a strategic
place, revealing that Herb is a woman.  We also see that Herb is
a pretty damn awesome martial artist, born with the power of a dragon,
who defeats Ranma in a couple of seconds.  She, Lime and Mint are the
descendants of Musk Dynasty martial artists who used some weird
rituals at Jusenkyou to improve their fighting skills.

 >ummmm, I don't know, I have to wait until I see it

Oh, the other thing... Herb splashed something on Ranma which has left
him permanently in female form.  And by my calculations, there will be enough
material for vol.24 when the last '92 SS is published.
Now what do you think? ^_^


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From: z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Appleseed still going?
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:25:57 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University


I heard Appleseed was still a going series.  Did Eclipse get tired of
translating/continuing here?  

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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Gou Nagai's best?
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: Megami Jimusho
Date:  8 Oct 92 10:13:27 GMT

Let's say you had Y3000 to spend on Gou Nagai material.  What would you
spend it on?  (Don't say "something else". ^_^)

Let's assume that it can't be spent on Cutey Honey and cheesy giant
robot stuff (yes, I know that cuts down the options considerably). ^_^

The guy has produced hundreds of volumes, but how can I tell the cream
from the dregs?  The occult-type stuff (Susa-no-oh, Maoh Dante, etc),
or anything which is particularly extreme, interests me the most.

Any responses are appreciated.


Utter Otaku Trivia:  In Kujaku-Oh Taimaseiden vol.4, Gou Nagai
appears on the inside dust jacket.  He is sitting in front of a TV
which is showing an anime.  What is that anime??

--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au