From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Adream
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:58:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: fido.jjfe7rk
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Apr15.220813.19914@wam.umd.edu> aap@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.172854.28745@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>  
>jkusters@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (The Chrome Jester) writes:
>
>> What I find most amusing was that he had the gall to compare himself
>> to Galileo.
>
>Do not be a pinhead. I did not compared myself to anyone. 


Name calling is not nice.  You have already accused the homosexuals here
of doing this....

>You people have no idea about anything, seems to be.

And you have no comprehension of homosexuals, seems to be.

>I just used Galileo to point out how the Great Logic of the Great minds of  
>this newgroup work. I would never compare myself to someone inteligent.  
>After all, Mr. Dyer has already pointed out how retarded is my culture.  
>Not like his.


Self parody is not the point.  Steve pointed out that Argentina is backwards
when it comes to homosexuals.  Our culture is also backwards regarding 
homosexuals, but not as backwards.


>Don't be stupid. You should better talk about illusion. I did not said at  
>any point that I compared me with him. You see, that is the norm here, a  
>bunch of homosexuals come and present their point as the truth, and then,  
>they put words in other people mouths. And then, they ask the other for  
>references, and then they give no reference at all about what they say.  
>They are just right because they are Gays.
>Go, and get an education.


One thing.  We know what it is like to be a homosexual.  We know a lot of
gay parents.  We know a lot about the heterocentrism of society.  We know
how the homosexuals have been oppressed in the name of Freud.  We have
first hand, direct experience about what we speak.

You do not know what it is like to be a homosexual.  You do not have a lot
of contact with gay parents.  You are blind to the heterocentrism inherent
to our society.  You know nothing about the past oppression of homosexuals
in the name of Freud.  You have no direct knowledge about homosexuality.
However, you deem to inform us, from your wealth of knowledge, that we
do not understand the world in which we live (the world of homosexuality,
a world that you know nothing about).  Yes, we get indignant when people
tell us about this, with no experience.

If you want an education, walk a mile in my shoes.  Watch your friends
die, while bigots say "it was their own fault."  Watch politicians try
and take away your rights.  Try and get married to find that the state
does not recognize you.  Try getting beat up on the street for walking
hand in hand with your lover.   Learn where we are coming from before you
start telling us what is wrong with our lives.  Learn where we are coming
for before you start telling us that we should not be allowed to adopt
children.  Learn where we are coming from before you start spouting your
theories about homosexuality.

Then perhaps, you will understand our anger.




Jeff
-FWA
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