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From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Subject: Re: Titles for all of the stories
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:18:03 GMT

In article misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>
>there are only 60 canonical stories.
>
>   But Conan Doyle wrote 2 parodies ("The Field Bazaar" and "How 
>Watson Learned the Trick"), 

Are you serious or are you pulling our (collective) legs?  Doyle wrote parodies
of the Holmes stories!?!

>and 2 stories that mention an anonymous detective who might be Holmes "The 
>Lost Special" and "The Man with the Watches".

Do you know what books these stories were published in?  Was Doyle using a pen
name?  Please let us know.



Thanks,

-Mitchel
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From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Subject: Re: Last word on First name - Watson's
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:01:22 GMT

In article misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:

>> The confusion about his first name stems from Watson's Wife who calls 
>> him "James" in "The Man with the Twisted Lip".
>
>   Yes, Conan Doyle had a real-life friend named James Watson.

This is a curious tidbit that I didn't know about.  Can you site some sources
so we can investigate this?


Thanks,

-Mitchel
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From: clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge)
Subject: Re: Dates for the Holmes stories
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In article <1993Jan6.143406.24347@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:
>
>I would like to get a list of dates for all of the Holmes stories.  I would
>like to know both the date it was written by Doyle and the date the story
>was supposed to have taken place.  Also, if the date the story occurred is
>figured from elements in the story itself, I would like to see the pieces that
>were used to derive that date.
>
	This really ought to be a FAQ item.  >:-)> All this information can
be obtained from "The Annotated Sherlock Holmes", edited by W.S. Baring-Gould
and still in print, as far as I know.  Some Sherlockians have quibbled with
Baring-Gould's dates here and there, but he's generally regarded as the best
single source for this information.

The_Doge

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From: credmond@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Redmond)
Subject: Re: Holmes books about story dates
Organization: University of Waterloo
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:17:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.134156.17463@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com 
(mitchell.hansinger) comments on remarks of mine about Sherlockian
chronology:

>I've searched for all of the above references both by title and by author and
>could find none of them.  The resources searched include: my library's online
>card catalog which covers the surrounding counties, Northwest Regional Online
>Library Database which covers all of the Northwest States of the US, and I
>checked Books in Print.  This casts serious doubts in my mind about these books.
>Are you certain about your sources and spellings.  Could you possibly do
>some checking on this for the rest of us as I was unable to turn anything up?


Okay, here is a brief and incomplete bibliography of published books and
booklets on Sherlockian chronology:

William S. Baring-Gould, THE CHRONOLOGICAL HOLMES. New York: privately
published, 1955.

H. W. Bell, SHERLOCK HOLMES AND DR. WATSON: THE CHRONOLOGY OF THEIR
ADVENTURES. London: Constable & Co., 1932.

T. S. Blakeney, SHERLOCK HOLMES: FACT OR FICTION? London: John Murray,
1932.

J. Finley Christ, AN IRREGULAR CHRONOLOGY OF SHERLOCK HOLMES. Chicago:
Fanlight House, 1947.

Henry T. Folsom, THROUGH THE YEARS AT BAKER STREET. Third edition.
Randolph, New Hampshire: privately published, 1991.

Andrew J. Peck. THE DATE BEING -- ? Bronx: privately printed, 1970.

Ernest B. Zeisler, BAKER STREET CHRONOLOGY. Chicago: Alexander J.
Isaacs, 1953.

I can well believe that these books will be hard to find in standard
bibliographical sources, especially the privately published ones.
The Bell and Blakeney ones are presumably in major reference works such
as the National Union Catalogue, and some of the others *might* be.
All are out of print, except presumably Folsom.

Bibliographical information here, except for Folsom, is taken from
Ronald De Waal's WORLD BIBLIOGRAPHY OF SHERLOCK HOLMES AND DR. WATSON,
which is the right place to look for information on obscure (and
privately published) Sherlockiana.

How sure of my sources am I?  Well, as I write this, copies of
Blakeney, Folsom, Peck, Zeisler, and the 1953 reprint of Bell are
in the same room with me, so I'm pretty confident.

Regards
CAR



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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Conan Doyle's Sherlockian apocrypha
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 03:45:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.131803.14715@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:

>> But Conan Doyle wrote 2 parodies ("The Field Bazaar" and "How 
>> Watson Learned the Trick"), 
>
> Are you serious

   Yes.

> Doyle wrote parodies of the Holmes stories!?!

   What's so surprising?  Conan Doyle never took Holmes very seriously.
He wanted to be remembered for his historical novels.

   Conan Doyle's parodies are only mildly funny.  The best parodies I've
read are the ones by Stephen Leacock.

   Conan Doyle also wrote a humorous poem about Sherlock Holmes, titled
"To an Undiscerning Critic".

>> and 2 stories that mention an anonymous detective who might be Holmes
>> "The Lost Special" and "The Man with the Watches".
>
> Do you know what books these stories were published in?

   You can find all of the above in _The Uncollected Sherlock Holmes_,
edited by Richard Lancelyn Green (London: Penguin, 1983, ISBN 
0 14 006432); or in _Sherlock Holmes: The Published Apocrypha_, edited
by Jack Tracy (out of print).

> Was Doyle using a pen name?

   No.  He published "The Lost Special" and "The Man with the Watches"
under his own name in the Strand magazine.  He *never* used a pen name,
as far as I know.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
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From: ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff)
Subject: Re: Titles for all of the stories
Organization: University of Virginia
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:08:59 GMT

HOLMES STORIES

No, 60 is the correct number.  Doyle wrote 56 short 
stories and only four novels.  Of course there are
many immitations, some good, some just awful.

~S
--
Garth (Haridas) Groff
"Not yet famous author"
ggg9y@poe.acc.virginia.EDU         Chant "Govinda Bohlo Hare"
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: _Punch_ and _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:25:09 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa

In article <1993Jan9.185508.9469@csi.uottawa.ca>, misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.170943.10542@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:

>> and _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_? 

   A collection of early-20th-Century newspaper and magazine articles 
and ads about Holmes.  Edited by Peter Haining.  It's a pretty good
read.

> That's a book.  I think it's still available.  Try the _Books in
> Print_ Title Index.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
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From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:09:43 GMT

In article misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>
>   An Times-style obituary for Holmes was published in _Punch_ and is
>reprinted in _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_.

Could you please tell us what types of publications are _Punch_ and _The
Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_?  Any further info would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

-Mitchel
From: bobleigh@world.std.com (Bob Leigh)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Electronic Holmes
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:20:38 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

lafemina@acpy01.att.com (Tom LaFemina (CXNIXPT1)) writes:
>I'm new to this group so excuse me if this question has been asked
>already. Is there an ftp site that has electronic versions of all
>the Holmes stories? If so I'd appreciate any info about it. Thanks.

You might try looking in /obi/Doyle on world.std.com ("Home of the Online Book
Initiative").  If it's not open to anonymous FTP, let me know.

Bob Leigh	bobleigh@world.std.com
From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: _Punch_ and _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:25:28 GMT
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In article misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>
>[The Scrapbook is] A collection of early-20th-Century newspaper and magazine 
>articles and ads about Holmes.  Edited by Peter Haining.  It's a pretty good
>read.
>
>> That's a book.  I think it's still available.  Try the _Books in
>> Print_ Title Index.

Are these articles and ads real ones which appeared in real newspapers or are
they merely fictional creations?  Can you tell us more, it sounds rather 
interesting.



Thanks,

-Mitchel
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: _Punch_ and _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 18:55:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.170943.10542@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:

> Could you please tell us what types of publications are _Punch_

   Punch is the most famous British humour magazine.  Its most famous
political cartoonist was Sir John Tenniel, who also did the original
illustrations for Lewis Carroll's _Alice's Adventures in Wonderland_.
Punch only folded quite recently.

> and _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_? 

   That's a book.  I think it's still available.  Try the _Books in
Print_ Title Index.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Titles for all of the stories
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 05:15:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.171736.7903@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:

> Below is a list of titles for all of the Holmes stories which are 
> available online.  I count only 60, including the four novels.  I 
> thought that there were 62 stories, am I missing any of them?

   No, there are only 60 canonical stories.

   But Conan Doyle wrote 2 parodies ("The Field Bazaar" and "How 
Watson Learned the Trick"), and 2 stories that mention an anonymous 
detective who might be Holmes ("The Lost Special" and "The Man with
the Watches").

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
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From: madoc@rambler.b15.ingr.com (Gary Masucci)
Subject: test
Reply-To: madoc@rambler.b15.ingr.com (Gary Masucci)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:53:14 GMT

Ignore ...this is a test
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:35:32 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1993Jan7.213507.29292@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
}In article <1ifm6dINNst@mirror.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
}
}> The Master is 139 years old today.  The Times of London has agreed to
}> publish a death notice if one is ever received, but to date none has been
}> received.
}
}   An Times-style obituary for Holmes was published in _Punch_ and is
}reprinted in _The Sherlock Holmes Scrapbook_.

_Punch_, eh?  It must be a fake.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Holmes Society Members?
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:20:07 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa

In article <1isj58INNdaa@mizar.usc.edu>, sharp@mizar.usc.edu (Malcolm Sharp) writes:

> Is there anyone on the list who is a member of the "Sherlock Holmes
> Society"?  A colleague (who isn't a Usenet user) is a member of that
> society

   The Sherlock Holmes Society is British.  The Baker Street Irregulars
is American.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
From: mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Titles for all of the stories
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:17:36 GMT
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Below is a list of titles for all of the Holmes stories which are available
online.  I count only 60, including the four novels.  I thought that there
were 62 stories, am I missing any of them?

Thanks,

-Mitchel


Abbey Grange
Beryl Coronet
Black Peter
Blanched Soldier
Blue Carbuncle
Boscome Valley Mystery
Bruce-Partington Plans
Cardboard Box
Case of Identity
Charles Augustus Milverton
Copper Beeches
Creeping Man
Crooked Man
Dancing men
Devil's foot
Dissappearance of Lady Frances Carfax
Dying Detective
Empty House
Engineer's Thumb
Final Problem
Five orange pips
Gloria Scott
Golden Pince-nez
Greek Interpreter
His last Bow
Hound of the Baskervilles
Illustrious Client
Lion's Mane
Man with twisted lip
Mazarin Stone
Missing Three quarter
Musgrave Ritual
Naval Treaty
Noble Bachelor
Norwood Builder
Priory School
Problem of Thor Bridge
Red Circle
Red-Headed League
Reigate Squires
Resident Patient
Retired Colourman
Scandal in Bohemia
Second Stain
Shoscombe Old Place
Sign of the Four
Silver Blaze
Six Neopoleans
Solitary Cyclist
Speckled band
Stock Broker's Clerk
Study in Scarlet
Sussex Vampire
Three Gables
Three Garridebs
Three Students
Valley of Fear
Veiled Lodger
Wisteria Lodge
Yellow Face
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From: credmond@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Redmond)
Subject: Re: Dates for the Holmes stories
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:04:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.145950.15549@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.143406.24347@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:
>>I would like to get a list of dates for all of the Holmes stories.  I would
>>like to know both the date it was written by Doyle and the date the story
>>was supposed to have taken place.  Also, if the date the story occurred is
>>figured from elements in the story itself, I would like to see the pieces that
>>were used to derive that date.
>	This really ought to be a FAQ item.  >:-)> All this information can
>be obtained from "The Annotated Sherlock Holmes", edited by W.S. Baring-Gould
>and still in print, as far as I know.  Some Sherlockians have quibbled with
>Baring-Gould's dates here and there, but he's generally regarded as the best
>single source for this information.


Not by me, he isn't, and not by a fair number of other Sherlockian
scholars.

There are close to a dozen full-length "chronologies", studies of
the dates at which the adventures may have taken place.  A fair number
of articles deal with individual cases -- some of them classic cruxes,
such as "The Red-Headed League", in which April fades seamlessly
into October.

Baring-Gould, in his Annotated Sherlock Holmes, uses the dates he
developed earlier in his own chronology titled, if I'm remembering
correctly, The Chronological Holmes.  He had his eccentricities of
method, and many of us prefer the approaches of Ernest B. Zeisler,
Henry T. Folsom (whose third revised edition was just published last
year) or even Harold W. Bell, whose work was done in the 1930's.

The chronologies that had been published up to around 1975 were summarized
in a privately-published pamphlet called The Date Being? by Andrew
Jay Peck.  Even in that format, they are too extensive to be posted on
the net, I'm afraid.

The dates of first publication of the stories are less ambiguous, of
course, and I may have a list of them somewhere in machine-readable
form; if I can find it I'll post it in the near future.  In any case --
this is NOT a commercial, since I don't make any money at this -- I
can offer copies of my Sherlock Holmes Reference Card, which includes
publication dates as well as page numbers in the Annotated, standard
abbreviations, and a few other bits of information.  

If you want to get a Reference Card, here's what to do. Send an
UNSTAMPED business-size envelope addressed to yourself, and enclose
two unused American stamps.  (I would just
say "send a stamped envelope", but I'm in Canada and most net.people 
would be sending American stamps, which won't help much.  
Canadians can, however, send an SASE instead of the unused stamps.)
The address:
  Chris Redmond
  523 Westfield Drive
  Waterloo, Ontario
  N2T 2E1  Canada

Canonical greetings on Holmes's 139th birthday!  (Anybody on the net
going to New York for the birthday festivities this weekend?)

CAR

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From: ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff)
Subject: Re: Dates for the Holmes stories
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:39:05 GMT

DATES OF STORIES

What you ask is probably impossible within the scope of the
net, unless someone wants to set up a FAQ with this 
information upon it.  Furthermore, there is no agreement
among all Sherlockians on the occurance dates for many of
the stories.  Debates have raged for years about the order
of the adventures.  

If you will research the ANNOTATED SHERLOCK HOLMES, you will
find the stories arranged by William S. Baring-Gould (the 
editor) in his chronological order.  The clues he uses are
included in the notations.  He also gives first publication
date for at least some of the stories.

As for complete publication dates, there are several extensive
bibliographies of Doyle's writing which give all (or most)
publications of the stories at the time of compliation, 
including English, American and continental editions or 
printings.  They run to literally thousands of entries.

Your question is quite valid, but for purposes of the net
it would be better to discuss them one story at a time.

~S
--
Garth (Haridas) Groff
"Not yet famous author"
ggg9y@poe.acc.virginia.EDU         Chant "Govinda Bohlo Hare"
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Heeere Doggy! (was Re: Last word on First name - Watson's)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:50:14 GMT

In article <watson.726420350@space.sce.carleton.ca>, watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson) writes:

> ewadams@netcom.com (Ernest Adams) writes:
>> [Watson] kept a bull pup.
>
> I believe this is stated during his initial meeting with Holmes.  Is
> the animal ever mentioned again in the Canon?

   No.

> (btw, I assume this is a DOG, not yet another obscure Victorianism referring
> to something quite different)

   Watson had just returned from Afghanistan, and was using some Anglo-Indian
slang.  "To keep a bull pup" meant "to have quick fits of hot temper".

   Many Sherlockian commentators don't know this, and there's been a lot of
speculation about the bull pup.

> Just curious about the habits of my illustrious ancestor ;-)
> (really you get thoroughly sick of growing up with all your friends saying
> "Elementary my dear" at every opportunity!)

   Then you'd like the police surgeon in John Dickson Carr's novel _The
Mad Hatter Mystery_.  (He was named Dr. Watson, and kept trying to preempt
jokes about his name.)

> ==Steve Watson: watson@sce.carleton.ca===Carleton University, Ottawa, Ontario==
> | The above is the output of a 7th-order Markovian analysis of all posts on   |

   You can do 7th-order Markovian analysis?  Wow!  You should take Dr. Oommen's
course in Learning Automata.  (A struggle for me, but you'd find it a breeze.)

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
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From: clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge)
Subject: Re: Last word on First name - Watson's
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In article <1993Jan6.141035.23366@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mfh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (mitchell.hansinger) writes:
>I've electronically searched through the Doyle canon online for all 
>occurrances of the word "John".   After eliminating all the references to John
>which were not about Watson I compiled the list below.  There are three 
>instances where Watson's full name is given.  The confusion about his first
>name stems from Watson's Wife who calls him "James" in "The Man with the
>Twisted Lip".  I personally am inclined to belive that Doyle just made a
>boo-boo there.
>
	That's obviously the "real world" answer, but what fun is that, I ask
you?  >:-)>  At least one Sherlockian (I've forgotten who) proposed that
"James" was a nickname or "pet" name Watson's second wife used.  For the
possible derivation of this nickname, check out the middle initials: 

>casebook/thor_bridge: Somewhere in the vaults of the bank of Cox and Co., at
>Charing Cross, there is a travel-worn and battered tin dispatch- box with my 
>name, John H. Watson, M. D., Late Indian Army, painted upon the lid. 
	    ^^^
>
>novels/study_scarlet: Being a Reprint from the Reminiscences of
>                        John H. Watson, M.D., Late of the Army
		              ^^^
	If the H. stands for "Hamish" (the Scots for "James"), the discrepancy
is readily explained.

The_Doge
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From: credmond@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Redmond)
Subject: Re: Holmes Society Members?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:33:36 GMT

In article <1isj58INNdaa@mizar.usc.edu> sharp@mizar.usc.edu (Malcolm Sharp) writes:
>Is there anyone on the list who is a member of the "Sherlock Holmes
>Society"?  A colleague (who isn't a Usenet user) is a member of that
>society and I told him I'd check the network for others who share his
>interest.  

Depends what you mean by that title.  As far as I can recall at the
moment, the only group with that actual name is The Sherlock Holmes
Society of London, which is the main Sherlockian group in Britain and
publishes the twice-a-year Sherlock Holmes Journal.  Enthusiasts anywhere
can join (except that there's a waiting list because of high demand).
Those of us who won't be in Britain to attend meetings in the near
future can become "associate members", which basically means subscribers
to the journal.  I'm in that category.  Other than the SHSoL, I don't
think there is a "Sherlock Holmes Society", but there are lots of --
loosely connected -- Sherlock Holmes societies.  As I've said on the net
before, if you want to find a contact or society near you, drop me a
note and I'll see if I can look up a name.  (And to the guy in Delaware
who took me up on my offer just before Christmas: I did answer you, but
my mail bounced back, and I've lost your address. Please write again.)

CAR

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