From: e.d.wardini@easteur-orient.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: iHtiraam aw in@izeel? (keen:Re: AlpaLeb V 1.0)
Organization: UiO
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:29:02 GMT

In article <BvMDF2.on@ecf.toronto.edu> hyper@ecf.toronto.edu (Hypersonic CFD
Combust Diag) writes:
>
>In article <NMOUAWAD.92Oct4154041@neumann.waterloo.edu> nmouawad@waterloo.edu
(Naji Mouawad) writes:
>>
>
>>
>> massalan be-faranca, "le breton" be-samuuwa lahje. Lei ? la-enno
>>leH'o w-samuuha legha bet-um el-denneh w-bet'ud ! iza semmet lahje
>>legha, ya@neh @Tayta uwweh siyessiyeh ! iza anna ellet beHke
>>el-lebneneh wel-suriyeh byeHko el-sureh ma@-enno el-lebnene wel-sureh
>>aribin la ba@dun (metl-l faranceh wel belgikeh) suu bkuun @melet ?
>>bkuun await el-fare' el-siyesseh beyn lebnen w-surriyah men-duun ma
>>emna@ Hadan men aya Herriyeh. @am b-tefham @alleyeh ? 
>>
>>
>> khuulaSit el-mawduu@ siyassiyeh mesh lughawiyeh.
>>
>>naji.
>
>Naji, that's where the objection stemed from, that it was more of
>a political move than it was, as claimed originally, a way of making
>network communication easier using our mother tongue. In other
>words, the above clearly reinforces the original doubts about it 
>being an attempt to distance the lebanese from their arabic
>origin/environment.

Ya Samir, wa'tille t@arrafna @a ba@D, inta @arabe, w-ana mis^ @arabe, jirrabt
in@izil minnak s^i?

la-Kabrak Kabriyye Saarit ma@e hawn bi-Oslo:

fi waaHad SaHbe Masre, awwal ma t@arraft @lay sa'ane: inta @arabe?

jeewabto: la'a.

sa'alne inta min wayn, iltello: min Libneen. alle ya@ne inta @arabe!

jeewabot w-iltello: la'a, ana Libneene! dillayna yahk s^i Kams d'eeyi', ta
bil-eeKir, alle Tayyib, inta Libneene!

halla' Sirna aSHaab! wla n@azalt @anno, wla ma@to @an Hobbo lal-@arab. bass
huwwe b-yiHterimne @alle ana, w-ana bi-Htirmo @alle huwwe!

>As I am sure you are well aware, the syrian  and the Lebanese
>dialects are much closer together than are the Belgian and the French.
>Linguistically, as also I am sure you are aware, the Lebanese, the Syrian,
>the Palastenian and the Jordanian are grouped together as a single
>dialect.  It has been mentioned earlier, that those slight differences
>that exist between the inhabitants of those countries also exist within 
>the people of the same country itself. An example was given as to the 
>different accents within Lebanon and how some lebanese share more in 
>their accent with the bordering countries than with the Beiruties, per se.
>
>What it boils down to  is that it is an old tune played on a new fiddle.
>
>These ventures to obliterate the arabic heritage in the lebanese
>culture date back to the days of the french occupation, or should I
>said mandate.

Ya Samir, ma badde imna@ Hadan @an teeriiKo, bass ma badde Hadan yimna@ne @an
teeriiKe ana kameen!

Iza inta @arabe, mniiH, w-ana doDD ayya waaHad baddo yghayyirlak hawiitak.
Baddak tiktob bil-naHawe inta Horr, baddal tista@mil Hruuf @arabiyye, kameen
inta Horr. Bass inta kameen leezim tifHam inno mis^ kill l-Libneeniyye
ibleeniin ra'yak. mitla ma mis^ kill l-Lebneeniyye ibleeniin ra'ye ana.

iza ana badde uul inne Libneene w-mis^ @arabe, ma tabllis^ w-ghayrak tithmuuna
b-ille ma KaSna fi. doghre bi-tbals^o tiHko @an in@izeeliyye, w-kill
has^-s^i@aareet ille bala ta@me. Ana mis^ leezime logha Libneeniyye, ta Hatta
uul inne mis^ @arabe wala Suure, bass ana bi-Hi''elle iktob bil-logha ille ana
baddiyyeha, wbil-Hruuf ille ana baddiyyeha. hayda ma byimna@ak inta innak
toHtofiz bi-teeriiKak, w-karaamtak, w-loghtak w-@uruubiitak!

AlephLeb wasiile, kill waaHad/e b-yi'dor yista@mela la Heejto.

w-Ba@deen Kalluune ilkon s^aghle, iza kill marra m-niHke @an Libneeniyyeta,
w-teeriiKna, w-HaDaaritna l-adiime, bi-Siiro tni''o w-tSarKo, ma tfakro inne
has^-s^i raH yisee@id inno niHana raH niHibb l-@arab aktar.

lal-Ha'ii'a, hayda s^-s^i bi-karrihna bil-@arab aktar w-aktar. lays^? la-inne
into l-@arab (iza inta, w-Khalid etc. b-tmaslo l-@arab), ma @indkons^ ayya
iHtiraam l-ghayrkon! iza Hkiina @an Hadaaritna l-'diime, bi-tsammuna Kirfeniin,
iza Hkiina @an Libneeniyyetna, bi-tsammuna min@izliin. ya@ne iza ma 'bilna ille
into badkonye, minkuun mijermiin!

eh! Htirna ya ar@a min wayn badna nbuusik!


>As in answer to Naji's question
>
>> @am b-tefham @alleyeh
>
>Loud and clear, long before the obvious was clearly stated. 
>
>


elie wardini

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