From: sk@groo.sunbim.be (Sasa Konecni)
Subject: Re: EDUCATION SPECIAL: MAP OF THE WORLD
Reply-To: sk@sunbim.be ()
Organization: BIM Everberg Belgium
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:13:28 GMT

in article <BszI5L.20o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> on 14 Aug 92 17:34:31 GMT
varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine) writes:


 varnavas> The history I stand behind is that there is
 varnavas> no connection between the Republic of Scopje
 varnavas> and Macedonians.  To use the Macedonian name
 varnavas> and the Macedonian symbols is a forgery.  THe
 varnavas> "Republic of Macedonia" is an artificial
 varnavas> creation of Tito.  Now, tell me what is the
 varnavas> history you stand behind?  I will be
 varnavas> anxiously waiting to rebattle.


 I would like to make it clear that Macedonians DO exist. 
We are Macedonians - just as you are what you 
say you are.

   Ethnicity is simply self identity and governments should 
acknowledge self identity as a matter of fact. Let me ask you,
what is an American, what is an Australian, what is a Canadian?
We respect everyone's self identity and we expect the same
in return. The Macedonian people also deserve a place under 
the sun without too many "Godfathers" or Greek mythology about
the days of cavemen.  

  The Macedonians, Greeks, Serbians, and other Balkan people
should look to the future and not the past. 

   Macedonia had the name long before 1944 when "Tito assigned
it that name". This can imediately and firmly be shown by
consulting a number of unprejudiced historians and writers
[Schevill 1922, Brailsford 1906, Moore 1971, PH 1920, den
Doolaard 1934, Stavrianos 1958, TNCMH 1968, Woodhouse 1986].
In this books the proof can be found that the Macedonian
nationality existed before the Second World War. This is in
contradiction to the hypothesis that the Macedonian people are
invented by Tito. The history of the Macedonian people is well
explained in previous postings on the newsnet, namely the
translation of the newspaper article from Dr. Detrez.

The territory of NOrthern Greece was called
Northern Hellas and in Novermber 1988, it was renamed Macedonia
and Trace. Why?

   The Greek propaganda machine is hard at work spreading lies
but the truth will prevail.

Sasa.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

[Brailsford 1906] Brailsford, H. N., Macedonia: It's races and
their future., 1906, reprint: Arno Press, New York, 1971.

[den Doolaard 1934] den Doolard, A., Orient-Express, Eerste
druk 1934, opgenomen in de Salamander 1955, herdrukt 1963, Em.
Querido's Uitgeverij N.V.  Amsterdam.

[Moore 1971] Moore Frederik, The Balkan Trial, reprint:
Eastern Europe Collec- tion, New York, 1971.

[PC 1920] Peace Handbooks, (Issued by the Hist. Secction of
the British foreign office 1920), vol. IV Macedonia.

[Schevill 1922] Schevill, Ferdinand, The history of the Balkan
Peninsula, Harcourt, Brace and Inc., New York, 1992, reprinted
edition 1971 by Arno Press, New York.

[Stavrianos 1958] Stavrianos, L.S., The Balkans since 1453,
professor of History, Northwestern University, Reinhart &
Comp. Inc., New York, 1958.

[TNCMH 1968] The New Cambridge Modern History, Volume XII
(Second edi- tion), edited by: C. L. Mowat, Cambridge at the
University Press, 1968.

[Woodhouse 1986] Woodhouse, C.M., Modern Greece, New Fourth
Edition, Faber and Faber, London, 1986.

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