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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Novel Idea (was Asshole Driver Award)
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:08:33 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA


In article <3359@voodoo.UUCP> stu@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
>
>I'm sure that others out there could come up with a few more, but these are
>just some that bug me at times.  This could be printed on a card the size of
>a business card that you could carry in your wallet/purse and have ready at a
>moment's notice. 
>
Even better would be to have these printed up to look exactly like a parking
ticket....

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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Your Mileage May Vary
Keywords: Gasahol, mileage
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:03:45 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

In article <4299@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> gee7759@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Glenn Elliott) writes:
>
>Has anyone actually experienced a drop in mileage?  If so, are you
>sure it isn't normal?  (My winter mileage is normally about 1 MPG
>lower than my summer mileage, which I attribute to the apparent
>inability of Washington drivers to cope with rain, which causes that
>wonderful stop-and-go traffic on the freeways to get worse.)
>
According to a Texaco brochure:

   Post-1980 model vehicles with oxygen sensors and computer controls typically
   experience a fuel economy loss of 1.5% - 2.0%.  This equates to around
   1/2 mile per gallon.  Older vehicles may actually gain in fuel economy
   because they have richer fuel mixtures.


The brochure answers a lot of other questions (although in fairly general
terms) about the new fuel, and they're available at Texaco stations.

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Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  // ....uw-beaver!bcsaic!voodoo!das
From: doyler@sierra.com (Debra Oyler)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Music info
Keywords: music
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:25:00 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa

In article witters@tc.fluke.COM (John Witters) writes:
>In article mdef@carson.u.washington.edu (Mark Defranza) writes:
>>
>>Just wondering if there is an on-line listing of information regarding
>>events in seattle such as concerts, shows, exhibits, etc.  It would really
>>help in iedentifying what is going on...
>
>I'm not aware of anything that's on-line.  There is a local program guide you
>can subscribe to, however.  It's called "Soundings Northwest," and it costs
>about $12.00 per year.  It includes concerts, plays, showings at art
>galleries, program listings for KING FM and KUOW, and other events like
>ballets, modern dance, or performance art.  As you can see, the content is
>oriented towards "High Culture."  You won't find out where Mudhoney or
>Soundgarten are playing from this guide.  I don't have their address, but the
>phone book says their phone number is 682-9277.

Thanks for the information!  I'm a frequenter of "High Culture" stuff myself
but I also enjoy alternative/modern/progressive music (like what you hear on
107.7).  So, does anyone know of bars/clubs/pubs that cater to this type of
music?  I'm new to the city and eager to experience the "new music scene".  Any
any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.


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From: kiml@Data-IO.COM (Kim Durwood)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Need bathroom remodeler-eastside
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:24:33 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Data I/O Corporation



Can anyone out there in netland recommend a good, reasonably priced
bathroom remodeler/remodeling business?

Specifically, we are thinking of installing a jacuzzi tub and need to
do plumbing work, electrical work, and would also like to have new floors,
tile and wallpaper installed as well.

We live in the cultural wasteland of Redmond, so hopefully the company
you've used is Eastside also.

Thanks,

Kim Durwood
Data I/O Corporation
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: eris@tc.fluke.COM (Chris Beckmeyer)
Subject: Re: Novel Idea (was Asshole Driver Award)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:43:49 GMT

In article <3359@voodoo.UUCP> stu@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
>
>I'd have to agree with this sentiment and would like to suggest an alternative
>to doing some sort of physical vandalism to the offender's car....
>I've always wanted to have a set of cards printed up that could be used for
>situations to the one mentioned originally in the "Asshole Driver Award" 
>thread.  The card would have several items listed on it that could be checked
>off.  Like the following:
>
>	__ HEY DIPSHIT!!  You parked in the Handicapped space!
>
>	__ Why did you have to take up TWO parking places?
>
>	__ Did you know that it's illegal to block someone's driveway? 
>
>	__ I notice that you have out-of-state plates and that you've parked
>	   here every day for the last __ months.  Would you like to get 
>	   your vehicle registered in WA or have it reported to the WSP?
>
>I'm sure that others out there could come up with a few more, but these are 
>just some that bug me at times.  This could be printed on a card the size of
>a business card that you could carry in your wallet/purse and have ready at a
>moment's notice.  It's an easy way to let off some steam without actually
>doing anything illegal.  Of course if the person whose windshield you leave
>this on is doing any of these things, he/she will probably ignore your little
>note.
>
my favorite is sold by some mail-order outfit in the midwest...

blue and white wheel chair logo stickers that say "i couldn't park here
because you did".  they're intended for windshields.  the adhesive is such
that it takes a good deal of solvent and elbow grease to remove the sticker.

later-

chris


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers)
Subject: Re: Asshole Driver Award
Organization: Apples for Washington, Redmond, WA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:23:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.082048.15871@u.washington.edu> tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>Yesterday I witnessed the most obnoxious thing I've ever personally seen
>a driver do.  This topped anything I saw in ten years of living in Pasadena
>and four years of living in the Bay Area.
>
>This bozo pulled into a handicapped parking space, got out of his car,
>*pulled* *the* *handicapped* *sign* *out* *of* *the* *ground*, and went
>off go wherever he was going!
>
>By the time I got back with security guards to nail this person, he
>had left.  He didn't even put back the sign when he left.
>
>
>--Tim Smith

Thats nothing, 
Once I saw 2 guys pull into a handicapped parking space and
one of the guys got out with a tire iron, broke the
other guys leg, and then proceded to help him hobble
into the store:)
From: dutfield@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stewart Dutfield)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Your Mileage May Vary
Keywords: Gasahol, mileage
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:24:55 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

Mileage on the Honda 83 Accord my wife and I drive has gone down by 7% or so.
We did have the car tuned a couple of weeks ago, so that might be part of the
problem :-)

Stewart Dutfield                          dutfield@seattleu.edu

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Computer Hardware Dealers...Who To Avoid
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:45:13 GMT

kurt@eskimo.com (Kurt Cockrum) writes:
>>  I've have to disagree with you. I bought a computer from them, brought
>>it in for service and they reformatted my HD wiping out 5 Megs of
>>research on a project which is now patent pending. They set me back
>>several months.
>[...]
>
>One reason the HD got reformatted was to avoid issues WRT possibly
>seeing sensitive/proprietary data.  Makes a lot of sense.  It's a damned
>sight easier to just wipe out the data on the HD rather than take on
>non-compensated fiduciary responsibilities WRT somebody's data.
>I don't know technically how it's done, but I would guess that it's
>similar to a degaussing operation, i. e. by bulk application of a rapidly
>changing global magnetic field, rather than real writes to the head of the
>disk.  Most of the time the latter is impossible anyway :) ...

I would doubt that they would use a bulk eraser on a hard disk.  Disk
drives often store information of their own, such as bad block mappings,
parameter settings, log information, and other assorted things of
interest.

It would not be good to wipe this out.  In fact, I believe that some disks
store updates to their firmware on reserved areas of the disk.  Bulk
erasing on of these might require the disk to be then sent back to the
factory to get it working again!

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service +1 206 382 MAIL (382-6245)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:11:12 GMT

billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick) writes:
: In article <agLeuB1w165w@eisley.wa.com> ace@eisley.wa.com (Ace of Death) writes:
: >>     Troll under the Fremont bridge
: >
: >could please tell me exactly where this is?
: 
: Um, under the Fremont Bridge, perhaps?  Just a guess...
: 
: Bill
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Good guess, but no cigar today.  Its actually under the aurora bridge,
north side.  A fairly impressive Troll, I think.  Its only a couple of
blocks away from the Waiting for the Interurbun statute.

One item of public art I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Westlake
station of the Metro bus tunnel.  There are three huge murals there, in
addition to the beautiful granite work.  The westlake station runs under
the area between the Bon Marche and the old Frederick and Nelsons.
There are underground entrances to the Bon, Westlake Mall, Nordstrom's,
and F&Ns, except you can't get in there any more.
From: dsjohns@uswnvg.com (Dwight Johns)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Oxi-fuel
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:10:52 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

This may not be the correct answer but this is how it was explained to me, the
new gas around here contains alcohol and produces less carbon monoxide, it has
been in the midwest for many years, well anyway, since alcohol is a solvent
and we haven't had this sort of fuel around here before there was quite a bit
of junk (for lack of a better word) floating around in our gas, it would
settle to the bottom of the tank and not cause much of a problem.  The fuel
filter was supposed to take care of any of this that got into the fuel line,
well what's happening now is that solvent (alcohol) is mixing everything up so
the fuel filters on all our cars are getting plugged up from all this stuff
that used to sit harmlessly on the bottoms of our gas tanks, and the ones at
the stations, and their big trucks, and their storage tanks... 

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From: dsjohns@uswnvg.com (Dwight Johns)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Computer Hardware Dealers...Who To Avoid
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:15:04 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

:   I've have to disagree with you. I bought a computer from them, brought
: it in for service and they reformatted my HD wiping out 5 Megs of
: research on a project which is now patent pending. They set me back
: several months.

I guess the moral of this story could be, gosh I don't know... BACKUP?

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  | ------------------------- |      ---===>     on the sides will be the  |
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From: rbacalzo@sierra.com (Roger Bacalzo)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,seattle.forsale
Subject: 2 RT Airline Tkts - Anywhere in U.S.
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:23:43 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Sierra Geophysics,  Kirkland WA

For Sale:

   2 Round Trip tickets on Continental Airlines to anywhere in 
   continental U.S.

   Restrictions:
     1 Male/1 Female
     Must be used before Dec. 20, 1992, though can return anytime after.
     Must book flight no sooner than 7 days before departure.
     Blackout Dates:
	Nov 24, 25, 29, and 30
	Dec 17 - Jan 4
	(Cannot fly either inbound or outbound anytime during blackout dates)
	

   Price: $200 each

Interested?

Contact: Roger Bacalzo
	 rbacalzo@sibu.sierra.com
	 822-5200 x360 (w)
	 828-9094      (h)
-- 
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Sierra Geophysics	
11255 Kirkland Way      	(206) 822-5200 ext. 360
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From: artitus@uswnvg.com (Angie Titus)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: looking for Bob/Perot supporter!
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:53:54 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hi Bob...

I have lost the address of Bob, the Ross Perot supporter...

BOB, if you are out there, please respond and let me know
how to write you back....

Angie
US WEST CELLULAR
BELLEVUE........
From: joshua@sumax.seattleu.edu (bar joseph)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Car for sale.
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:45:44 GMT
Organization: Seattle University


I've been having great financial difficulties, and therefore wish to sell my
car.  
The car is '91 MR2 turbo, with t-top, cd, and every other options except 
leather and ABS brakes.
I had put down 2500, and paid all the monthly, which all comes out to be
over eleven thousand.  I bought the car at nineteen thousand something, which
was a good deal at the time.
All I am asking is three thousand, and you can take the car along with its
payments which I've come to dread. (396.40)
If you can afford it, or was planning on getting this car, it is PERFECT for 
you.
I've never had any trouble with the car, it's still very new.
Btw, it's yellow, if you are wondering.

Call me at 747-6948.
My name is Pete.

thanks.


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier)
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:27:08 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Bob Hurt (bobhurt@cac.washington.edu) wrote:
: I'm planning on making a video letter for a friend of mine in
: another state and I'd like to include as much of Seattle's public
: art as possible.  Unfortunately, I don't know where everything is.
: 
: So, what's your favorite public art?

To show what Seattle is really like, try 

Whatever dead Viking that is out at the Shilshole Marina
The replica Statue of Liberty at Alki 
The Christopher Columbus down on the water front  

On a more serious note, 

the Chinese Camels at the Art Museum(s)
Waiting for the Interurban in Fremont.

Also there's a lot at "the Box the Space Needle Came In" (The old
Seafirst Building) and at the Seattle Public Library.
Somewhere down in that area is/was and interesting stone bench
with animals carved on the ends.  Is that still there?

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com  


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Organization: University of Washington
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:42:04 GMT

The troll under the Aurora bridge is great.  I remember the first time I saw
it, when I was on a Shuttle Express van that went past it.  I couldn't stop
laughing.  I took my girlfriend (a native Seattlite) there -- she didn't
believe me when I told her there was a troll under the bridge...  ;-)

The young girl with the origami bird just before you enter the University
Bridge represents a very sad story.  She had leukemia, and was told that if
she could make 1000 origami cranes she would get better.  Unfortunately, she
died before she could complete the project.  I think people give her origami
cratures so that someday she complete the task of having 1000...

I believe that both of these were private efforts and not funded by the
government.  They're too good to be government-funded art.  When I think of
government art, I think of that gigantic bidet that passes for a `fountain'
downtown or the piles of rusting scrap metal (a.k.a. ``significant
sculpture'') dumped on the lawns of certain public buildings.

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: barring@cs.washington.edu (David Barrington)
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:37:03 GMT

I went by the interesting public-art power station while running the
other day.  It's just west of Aurora (Linden?) at about N 110th.  There's
a playground next to it, and a sign with a phone number to call if your
ball goes inside the power station fence (presumably so you don't climb
inside).

Dave MB
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.152538.11421@u.washington.edu> bobhurt@cac.washington.edu (Bob Hurt ) writes:
>I'm planning on making a video letter for a friend of mine in
>another state and I'd like to include as much of Seattle's public
>art as possible.  Unfortunately, I don't know where everything is.
>
>Here's what I do know:
>
>    Hammering Man at the Seattle Art Museum
>    Troll under the Fremont bridge
>    Broken Obylisk at the UW
>    Chief Seattle at Pioneer Square

This is a pretty miniscule list.    :-)  The City of Seattle
puts out a booklet that lists all the public art; it contains
something like a hundred entries.  Unfortunately, my copy of
the booklet is somewhere at home, so I can't post the contents
(as if my fingers would hold up) but here's a list of some of
the more (in)famous ones:

    Christopher Columbus on the waterfront (truly ugly)
    Adjacent, Against, Upon in the north waterfront park
    the lovely rocks in the median on Lake City Way about 125th
    The Metro bus tunnel stations all have art, some very good
    The Henry Moore sculpture at the SeaFirst building
      (the most valuable sculpture in Seattle--is it still there?)
    there's a Seattle City Light power station somewhere that is
      supposed to have one of the best public art installations
      around--anyone know where it is?
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat 
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: ray@Celestial.COM (Ray Jones)
Subject: Re: Your favorate Public Access system
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:46:27 GMT

In <1992Nov20.192823.1718@polari> kyl@polari.online.com writes:

>I am thinking of switching to another system.  Any recommendations?  Any 
>opinions based on your experiences would be appreciated.  What do you know
>or hear about Eskimo North?  Howabout SLUG system?

The SLUG system does not have dial-up logins, it is uucp connections
only.
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner)
Subject: Re: Your favorate Public Access system
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:02:00 GMT

kyl@polari.online.com writes:

>I am thinking of switching to another system.  Any recommendations?  Any 
>opinions based on your experiences would be appreciated.  What do you know
>or hear about Eskimo North?  Howabout SLUG system?

>Thanks,

>Kyu Lee
>kyl@polari.online.com

Kyu,

I have just moved from Seattle Online to Eskimo North, and I'm very happy.
If you're still trying to get usenet on polari, forget about it.  You'll
only get the local bases.  I go back and check the old account from time
to time and there has been no "outside" mail for at least two weeks.  Email
is equally shoddy.  At best, polari gets about 50% of what it should be
getting in.

Notice my signature:

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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu (Paul Kemp)
Subject: Re: Novel Idea (was Asshole Driver Award)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:44:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.214349.7486@tc.fluke.COM> eris@tc.fluke.COM (Chris Beckmeyer) writes:
>
         [lots of stuff about parking in disabled spots deleted]

	The best thing to do is call the cops.  Explain the situation, GIVE
THEM THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER.  If you have a disabled parking sticker, park
behind them blocking them in and don't move 'til the cops get there.  I've
found that the cops will come if they aren't really busy.
pk

>


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: Your favorite public art
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:35:36 GMT

Another vague location here....

There is a statue of a person sitting on a bench in
the courtyard of the building across the street from
the Cinerama (to the west of the Cinerama).  If I
remember right, it's an older woman and she's laughing.
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
From: gopi@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Kanivenahalli S. Govindaraju)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: TEST
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:34:31 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle


This is a test
Interrupt
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: blink@carson.u.washington.edu (Folded Pliers)
Subject: Re: Veggie restaurant list
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:20:06 GMT

Another vegi place is called "Flowers" in the university district.
It is on University Way and perhaps 42nd. On the corner. They 
have a very nice vegi buffet for lunch. Good deal.


Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bigstar@hardy.u.washington.edu (J Paschel)
Subject: Re: Asshole Driver Award
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:44:38 GMT

ricke@amc.com (Rick Eggers) writes:

>I would like to point out that the people here who
>advocate scratching paint, breaking windows, and 
>slashing tires are more despicable times 10 than
>the people who park in handicapped zones. What 
>moral turpitude does it take to want to harm 
>complete strangers in the name of defending 

Hey !!! If ya don't shut up I'm going to take a belt sander to your fleshy
face !!!
-- 
"Life is that which dies when you stomp on it." - Mark Tilden, BEAM Robotics

                 --=={{ bigstar@u.washington.edu }}==--