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From: max@isis.eng.hou.compaq.com (Max Heffler)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 & Ultramacros 3.0
Keywords: crashing
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:32:08 GMT

cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.110210.7078@cs.uow.edu.au> jorgi@cs.uow.edu.au (George B Zamroz) writes:
>>I finally have gotten round to putting System 6.0 on my hard disk. When trying
>>to use Appleworks with Ultramacros, it crashes as soon as I try to add a file.
>>Running Appleworks on it's own is fine. Anyone know the answer to this problem?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.

>A partial answer is that it's not system 6, it's something else. AW 3.0 &
>UM & System 6 works fine w/me.

The problems I was having several weeks ago and posted about, where AW 3.0
would crash the second time entering AW 3.0 from either the Finder or Prosel-16
did not happen with the original AW 3.0.  The problems only happened with a
version, IEPWorks, that contained the Timeout Ultramacros and only with
System 6.0...

-- 
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Compaq Computer Corporation             uucp: ..!uunet!max@compaq.com
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"The views expressed here are my own, and not those of my employer."
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: How many files in a ProDOS directory ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:56:45 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

lecates@bach.udel.edu (Roy LeCates) writes:
>The root
>directory ALWAYS takes up the same number of blocks on EVERY Prodos
>disk (from an 800K floppy to a 100Meg hard drive).  Interesting, huh?

Except on /RAM in a 128k machine - it only has 1 block and so can only
hold 12 files. This is also true of the 5.25" Appleworks disk.

With the introduction of P8 v2.0 this is now a fully supported configuration.
BASIC.SYSTEM 1.5 no longer has problems reading /RAM's catalog. One & Four
blocks are the only supported root catalog sizes.
-- 
David Wilson				(042) 21 3802 voice, (042) 21 3262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
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From: scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon)
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Bobs: Warning
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:24:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.093105.5653@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>
>Okay, well changing control panel settings isn't a horrible crime,
>but this program sets the text and background to black!  It also
>sets the boot slot to 5, so I couldn't even load System 6 from
>my hard drive...[stuff deleted]
>
>Anyway, I managed to dig up and find an old System disk with the
>control panel NDA on it, so I was able to fix it.  But I wonder
>what else this demo did to my computer?!

You do seem to do it the hard way. Next time, make sure there's no disk
in slot 5, and reboot. It will get a "Check Startup Device" error, and get you
the bracket prompt (maybe you have to hit control-reset to get the bracket).
Then just type "PR#7" (or whatever slot your HD is in. For me, it's slot
6 so I'd use "PR#6"). That should boot your hard drive like normal.

I'm not at my GS right now, so I can't actually check this. I'm sure someone
will correct me if that doesn't work.

-- 

                                          - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)
From: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: recommendations on GS word processor prog. wanted
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:36:27 GMT
Reply-To: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) says:

>Have you thought
>of a new program called PageWriter GS? It is text based, and I really haven't
>had time to explore it thoroughly but it appears very, very powerful.

I don't think I've heard about this one, at least not very much. 
Could you tell us a little more, at least who makes it?
This sounds very interesting.
-- 
 __                                                                   __
(__) Grover Thomas            InterNet: grover@emunix.emich.edu      (__)
(__)                               or   bp664@Cleveland.Freenet.edu  (__)
From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dragon's Lair II for the GS?
Date: 23 Aug 92 06:22:28 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.


Well, I know the original Dragon's Lair was released for the GS... As well
as Space Ace, two very similar (in appearance) programs, on a heck of alot
of disks (about 7 if I remember right)....
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From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: VAMPS - seriously, now
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:42:21 GMT

Ok, I retrieved three of these VAMPS disks from cba2, the JukeBox.2, European
Sampler, and SpaceFox ones (were there others?). I was quite keen to hear the
songs; the subjects I've been most interested in, in my Psych degree were 322 &
324, the first entirely devoted to the sensation of sound and the second to
perception in general, so I had an idea of the perceptual effects mentioned in
the docs (though I thought their description therein to be unnecessarily
bafflegabby).
 
I carefully listened to one of the songs (the second one on the spacefox disk)
in it's original soundsmith incarnation, and in the VAMPS module form. I
listened to both with NoiseTracker, simply by loading and playing one, then
the other. The only differences I could hear were in the sections where
someone had cranked instrument volumes to $FF, selected "Left" and "Right" in
the instrument definitions instead of "Track" and/or gone in and added extra
tracks. An instance of the latter would be filling in all the unused tracks in
the beginning with Dream Bells, all playing the same note. It seems to me that
you could get the same effect out of Soundsmith or NoiseTracker by doing just
that: playing the same instrument on multiple tracks to get that echoey effect.
No news there.
 
I tried loading some of the instruments (the ones I already had from other
soundsmith songs) in ASIF format, right beside the module instruments in DOC
RAM. Even playing them Left & Right, I couldn't hear any difference by toying
with that little NT keyboard.
 
Having seen this, I saved the instruments from both versions of the song in
AIFF form (the VAMPS docs state that saving this way will preserve whatever
characteristics the sound is supposed to have) and compared the files. The
waveform sections of the files were identical. The AIFF headers and footers
differed in a couple of places by one or two bytes, or by a displacement of
bytes...I don't know enough about AIFF format to say whether this could affect
the sound, but this seems moot as the VAMPS docs claim to have processed the
waveforms through some Roland sound gear. You'd imagine this would change more
than just the AIFF information...pretty specialised Roland equipment if not.
 
The author in fact specifically notes that saving in raw binary format will
lose the special info, so the AIFF info should differ - by more than a couple
of bytes. If only the AIFF info is changed, though, what could possibly be so
special about the instruments? What does AIFF format define, and why would you
need an external sound processor to change it? And why did he provide
instruments in the VAMPS.Extras folder in _binary_ form?
 
It seems possible that these VAMPS songs have just had extra tracks put in, and
NT instrument parms modified. Though I'd like to be wrong...can someone prove
me so?
 

-- 
Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
                        '
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Star Wizard
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:11:10 GMT

In article <aHXNPB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> radagast@bluemoon.rn.com (Tim Schmidt) writes:
>Has anyone gotten Star Wizard to work on a ROM 03?  I've gotten it twice, 
>from two different sources, and neither work.  They merely crash and burn 
>while booting.. no title screen or anything.

s far as  know, Star Wizard will not run on a ROM 03.  I've also
heard that it dies with ertain acclerato card settings, and other
hardware configuraions.  Too bad becaue it was a proam wit
potetial.
From: mccla_d@aesc.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Finder 6.0 Problem (again)
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:48:41 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA

Don't know if my mail didn't make it out, or the answers never made it back,
but I can't believe nobody ever heard of it before. I'll try again.

When in Finder, if I access the Colors menu, the colored boxes come down and 
never go away. They're permanently drawn on the desktop, or on any windows
that happen to be open underneath that area. They don't get erased when the
menu collapses, and won't go away until I close that window/cover that area
of the desktop.

I've tried running it without any NDAs which affect menus and windows (most
are kept out of the way by keeping them as virtual DAs via DTUtils, the 
neastest thing since Mr. Dunkin' invented the donut). Every once in a while,
the color seems to choke Finder and the screen goes into paroxysms (my word
for today) of random color, leading to system crash.

It's giving me a Valium deficiency. 

Anybody heard of these syptoms? Have any ideas as to the cause?

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From: taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: No, no.. Not an IDE drive!
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:24:46 GMT
Organization: The Internet

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes...
>
>But really, lots of my friends have IDE drives, and nothing ever went
>wrong with them.

    But something *could* go wrong.  Our user group's monthly Hardware
SIG meeting usually sees at least two or three bad drives.  Most of
the time, the problem can be fixed simply by backing up the data and
doing a low-level format.  Relatively easy.  Having to send your drive
back to the manufacturer is a royal pain.
--
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PDware clearing house
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:21:11 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


Of course I've heard of GS+ Magazine. In fact, I traded an article for a
subscription about 1.5 years ago, and in the past issue or 2, Steve Disbrow
mentioned my name in the magazine, and called me "a friend of GS+".

Unfortunately, GS+ has a very small circulation. Steve Disbrow told me
exactly what it is, confidentially. For my purposes, which is spreading the
word on great II and IIGS shareware and freeware, inCider, with a
circulation of 100,000, is the way to go.

Joe Kohn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: R. Anthony
Subject: Re: New GS Freeware
Summary: CyberWar
Keywords: CyberWar
Reply-To: Grover Thomas
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.080427.27868@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>
>In a previous article, irie@husc9.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie) says:
>
>>Actually,  I HAVE seen Cyberwar up on both c.b.a2 and tybalt. The author
>>seemed nice enough on the messages  and took the time to explain his
>>program. Unfortunately, I have never gotten Cyberwar to work on my machine
>>and have never followed up on it, and have since deleted it. HAs
>>anyone else had problems with it?
>
>Yes, I've had problems with it on my ROM 01, so I never really did much with
>it either.  I hear there is a new version coming soon, though.
>-- 
> __                                                                   __
>(__) Grover Thomas            InterNet: grover@emunix.emich.edu      (__)
>(__)                               or   bp664@Cleveland.Freenet.edu  (__)
>

Actually, you are correct.  I just received a new version of CyberWar in my
mailbox.  I will send it to Tybalt and post it to the binaries soon.  To answer
the question about how to support freeware authors, just write to them and tell
them you appreciate what they are doing!

Rich

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Moderation: good, bad, or what...
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 21:42:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2


I was bored today, and went browzing through the IBM groups. Look at
what I found. 

It appears that there are more submissions to the IMB binaries group
than I had thought. But the tale is below...

While this seems unlikely to happen to the apple2 group -today- if
it becomes moderated, it becomes a possibility for the future.

There are still 2 more weeks to vote for comp.binaries.apple2
moderation (as I recall).

Give it careful consideration. It seems almost impossible to unseat
a moderator once enthroned. If they die without notice, or get a life
or something, but do not want to give the responsibility to someone
who is willing and able, the group is SOL, and dead.


Rich


>Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
>Subject: Re: cbip posting question
>Sender: usenet@ulowell.ulowell.edu (News manager - ulowell)
>Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
>Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 02:55:08 GMT
>Lines: 30

>In article <1992Aug6.192437.17946@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz) writes:
>>I submitted a file to cbip for processing. What is the normal
>>sequence of handling this, since I haven't heard squack from the
>>moderator about this? Is the receipt of the file acknowledged, at
>>least?
>>

>Yes, your posting was received. Unfortunately, due to the sheer number of
>submissions, I have been unable to reply to each one. I am already at around
>80 submissions in the backlog...my recent request for testers has resulted
>in only a couple people giving me feedback, so nothing is getting through.
>Plus the fact I can only sort through a few submissions a day, _when I can_,
>things are getting further piled up, not to mention that someone submitted a
>rediculous number of files, several of which were corrupt, and yesterday
>someone actually miled me a _binary_ file - no, not a uuencoded binary, and
>actual binary, which needless to say didn't arrive intact, nor did my mailer
>enjoy it...

>All that, coupled with the fact that the PC at work died a while back and
>prevents my in-house testers from getting anything, and the University is
>still using 2400 baud modems is making for slow progress this summer.

>I would like to ask for a moratorium on submissions until the backlog
>dwindles. And please, don't bother asking when something will appear. I
>simply do not know...

>=======================================================================
>Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science 	 (508) 934-3645
>University of Massachusetts at Lowell
>Internet: oneill@ulowell.edu		Moderator, comp.binaries.ibm.pc


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: pro-apa.cts.com!cbarber (Charles Barber)
Subject: ANDREW VOLK
Organization: AppleWorks Programmers' Association - (213) 463-9289 300-1200-2400
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:21:51 GMT

Andrew Volk:
I need you to read a mail message I sent you at PRO-APA.  I can't get the
net to get mail to you, so if you get a chance please login to PRO-APA and
read your mail there.  Thank you.

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From: lpowell@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU (Larry Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: DbMaster
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:43:23 GMT


  I have been attempting to create 5.25 disks of the shareware version of
Dbmaster (received from A2Central many months ago). There are some hints
that it can be done (like disk names should be /dbmaster1 and /dbmaster2)
however I do not know what goes on what disk. And one of the subdirectories
(.../OBJ/... I think) turns out to be too big all by itself.
  Any one have any ideas or suggestions?
  Thanks,
--Larry Powell    lpowell@atl.calstate.edu
From: ztsindi@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: SoundSmith 1.0? NT w/Midi? WE NEED IT!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I know that this has been hashed out here before but could 
someone tell me the status of SoundSmith 1.0? If I remember correctly
(that is all my simms are properly seated) I recall someone in the
know saying that SS 1.0 will NOT be released because Hubert is pissed
off at the low turn out in terms of shareware fees he has recieved.
SoundSmith is great and so (*2) is NT but they lack one crucial item
that for me is essential....MIDI! I regularly use SynthLab (which does 
have excellent sound) to make music. I'd like to use larger samples 
than Synthlab allows. It would also be nice to do waveform editing.
The GS NEEDS a NT w/MIDI! A friend of mine traded up his trusty Apple 
II for an Amiga. I asked him why and he said, 'To do music with it'. I
was stunned. I asked why he'd passed over the GS since he had a world
of IIe knowledge behind him. 'There isn't any good music software' was
his reply. He was impressed by NT and Synthlab but both have SERIOUS
shortcomings, no MIDI for NT makes it a fun toy but utterly lacking 
in usefullness for making serious music. Its ridiculous trying to 
enter music in on the comp keyboard instead of my CZ keyboard. 
Synthlab DOES give MIDI but its worthless as anything but a digital 
recording machine. If I make a mistake on the drums say I have to
record the WHOLE track over! I CAN'T believe there isn't something
better for the GS! The GS is the King of Sound. It Should be mated
with the appropriate Queen of Software. How can the Amiga be deemed
as such a powerful music platform? Well, ease of use IS a major plus.
It is VERY simple to create instruments and waveforms from Basic DATA
statements! There is NO excuse for the hideous diffeculty of 
manipulating music/sound on the GS. The GS IS the more powerful
music machine but the Amiga has succesfully stolen our thunder. :|
	Anyone use MusicWriter GS by Pyware? Is it worth the 
investment? I mean, can I get at least Soundsmith level instruments
in and out of it?
	
	OK. At heres a list of what I think a Professional music
system should have on the GS:

	- MIDI
	- NT like instruments (swapping in and out of DOC to get 
bigger sized instruments)
	- A Music Studio style 'Notes on Staff' visual, w/printouts.
	- A Waveform Creator/Editor.
	- Synthlab Quality sound (STILL the best even for its limited 
number of instruments.

	Thats it I guess. Its all been done but not all together.
	I love my GS (kiss kiss, hug hug) but its musical potential is
sorely underdeveloped. (Yes I know, why don't *I* write the above? 
Well I'm trying to learn C and Assembly as fast as I can. Its not 
easy, Maybe all you hardcore GS owners will see it sometime in the 
next several years...)
					-Buffalo Joe
From: lius@romulus.rutgers.edu (L*I*U Publishing Company)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: IIgs->LC monitor cable question...
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:02:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.Aug.19.19.02.58.1992.6519
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Actually, I just learned about this beast while reading this latest
thread about the IIGS's latest demise. Could someone give me the pin
to pin configuration for it?

Thanks,
Steve (lius@remus.rutgers.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Bobs: Warning
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:45:41 GMT

scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon) writes:
: In article <1992Aug17.093105.5653@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
: >
: >Okay, well changing control panel settings isn't a horrible crime,
: >but this program sets the text and background to black!  It also
: >sets the boot slot to 5, so I couldn't even load System 6 from
: >my hard drive...[stuff deleted]
: >
: >Anyway, I managed to dig up and find an old System disk with the
: >control panel NDA on it, so I was able to fix it.  But I wonder
: >what else this demo did to my computer?!
: 
: You do seem to do it the hard way. Next time, make sure there's no disk
: in slot 5, and reboot. It will get a "Check Startup Device" error, and get you
: the bracket prompt (maybe you have to hit control-reset to get the bracket).
: Then just type "PR#7" (or whatever slot your HD is in. For me, it's slot
: 6 so I'd use "PR#6"). That should boot your hard drive like normal.
: 
: I'm not at my GS right now, so I can't actually check this. I'm sure someone
: will correct me if that doesn't work.
: 
: -- 
: 
:                                           - Scot Salmon (scot@jlc.mv.com)

Yes, it does work.  I got caught by the Blackout virus once and that's
exactly what my friend did to get my IIgs working again.  Not much of a
virus once you've understood how it works but for a first timer, it's
quite a shocking experience.  Must say the fellow who taught of this
trick was pretty smart.

- DOTW - :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: MS-DOS FST
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:15:24 GMT

In article <71205@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>
>  suffix ftype auxtype
>  .C      $04   $0000      C language source code
>  .H      $04   $0000      C header file
>  .PAS    $04   $0000      Pascal language source code
>  .ASM    $04   $0000      assembly language source code
>  .GIF    $C0   $8006      GIF file
>

Could not the existing SRC types be used for C, Pascal, ASL? I suppose it
might create a problem for those using 8-bit or other editors that don't
recognise those files...

And is that an Apple-defined filetype for GIF? I didn't know about that, but
I'm not certain how well it would work...I think many older GIF convertors
& viewers will only open TXT or BIN files.


-- 
Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
                        '
From: roland@pro-sweosd.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Moderation: good, bad, or what...
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:21:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-sweosd]
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07:35:45 CET

Hello Finland Sweden here.

My name is Roland Enflo and this letter is coming from pro-sweosd.

om du f|rst}r detta {r detta svenska!

We are a group in sweden calls Apple Users Group of Sweden.

I have one question to you . Do you knows any Apple /// Users?

Best regard 

Roland AUG Sweden
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