HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sms@gamma.dou.dk (Sven Meiborg Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: ARA to ethernet Mac?
Keywords: ARA, ethernet, phase II, FastPath
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:53:38 GMT
Reply-To: sms@dou.dk (Sven Meiborg Sorensen)
Organization: DOU-CAMPUS, Odense University, Denmark

Netters:

Please help me with the following AppleTalk Remote Access problem.
It has been reported a few times before and there has been one or
two hints at a solution - but nothing clear-cut and definitive.

-----------

I manage an ethernet phase II backbone with 12 FastPath and some 
Macs directly on the backbone and others on AppleTalk. The FPs are
FastPath 5 and upgraded 4+ (ROM 5.1) running KSTAR 9.1.1.

When I dial into a Mac on the AppleTalk side of a FP with AppleTalk
Remote Access (ARA) I can acces both AppleTalk services like
AppleShare servers and laserwriters _AND_ TCP/IP services like NCSA
Telnet and Eudora POP mail using MacTCP 1.1.

However, when I dial into a Mac directly on the ethernet, I can only
access AppleTalk services - _NOT_ TCP/IP services.

Rumours have it that by cleverly configuring one of the FPs to act as
"AppleTalk-to-IP" translator you can gain access to TCP/IP services as well.

But how?

I have experimented with lots of settings in Shiva's Net Manager and
MacTCP but to no avail.

Thanks!

/Sven
 


Sven Meiborg Sorensen     Internet: sms@gamma.dou.dk
Senior Analyst
Odense University, Denmark
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: joswig@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Rainer Joswig)
Subject: EtherTalk and CAP and I
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:18:38 GMT

Hello,

I have a problem installing CAP.

I have successfully installed CAP using IPTalk. This
works just fine. But we will move from our FastPath
to EtherNet cards for all Macs. Thus using EtherTalk
for CAP should give us some speed improvements.

Now I have installed the enet driver. But aarpd
won't start successfully. Instead the following
error message is being printed.


unix!: # aarpd le0 EtherTalk
open: /dev/enetXX: No such file or directory
21:11:48 07/24/92  pi_open: aarp_init: No such file or directory
init_enet: network initialization failed


/dev/enet0 and /dev/enet1 do exist. So is aarpd really
looking for /dev/enetXX or what is going on?

Does it work with SunOS 4.1.1? The documentation says something
about SunOS 4.0.3c .


Our configuration is:
SparcStation II, SunOS 4.1.1, cap60 patch level 100

Can somebody help me?

Rainer Joswig
Email: joswig@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: linn@erlang.enet.dec.com (John Linn  28-Jul-1992 1139)
Subject: GSS-API information
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:36:29 GMT

Ravi Ganesan asks:

>- Can anyone point to recent documentation on GSSAPI.

The current base GSS-API Internet-Draft specification is
"draft-ietf-cat-genericsec-01.<txt.ps>", available in directory
"internet-drafts" by anonymous ftp to nnsc.nsf.net or your choice of
other Internet-Draft repositories.  The most recent corresponding C
bindings Internet-Draft (to which some updates will be pending) is
"draft-ieft-cat-secservice-00.txt", in the same directory.

--jl
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagate!socrates!bf4grjc (Ravi Ganesan (301) 595-8439)
Subject: Version 5.
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:42:19 GMT

Three requests:

- Can anyone provide an update on the status of The Kerberos V.5 Beta.2 
  that was to become available in end July.

- Can anyone point to recent documentation on GSSAPI.

- Can anyone point to the ftp site where Kerberized telent is available for 
  Version  (Does the one supplied with Version 5 work with 4?) 5 (some 
  Cray site I think).

Thanks,

Ravi
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: FAQ for this group?
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:20:14 GMT

just started reading this group and was wondering if there is an FAQ?


Thanks.
--
   John C. Schultz   +1 (612) 733-4047   schultz@halley.serc.3m.com
   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
From: root@sgtech.UUCP (Admin)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: To find ftp site for kerberos
Keywords: ftp, kerberos
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:06:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Star Gate Technologies, Inc, Solon, OH

Hi,
    Is anybody know ftp site for a newest kerberos and kerberized telnet ?
Thank you in advance.

Tai Rhee
E-mail: rhee@sgtech (Tai Rhee)


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Star Gate Technologies
29300 Aurora Rd, Solon, OH, 44139, USA, +1 216 349 1860
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagate!socrates!bbh7rq5 (Davies)
Subject: kerberos mailing list
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:30:47 GMT

Hello,

I'm not sure whether I'm mailing to the right account or not,
but I was interested in having my name added to the kerberos
mailing list.

My e-mail address is below.

Thank you,

Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: alan@curta.cc.columbia.edu (Alan Crosswell)
Subject: Re: Kerberizing Telnet help needed
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:36:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.172643.9444@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> mbc@po.CWRU.Edu  
(Michael B. Comet) writes:
> 
> 	Hello,
> 
> 		I am working on trying to get telnet to work with
> kerberos and would like to know if anyone has done so or can point me to
> some docs that would help.  I have heard that there was a document which
> I think describes the telnet authentication option.  I was unable to
> find this in the RFC directory for the ftp site I looked at or under the
> internet-draft directories.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> 		Please post a message here or send mail to the address
> below.  Thanks.
> 
> 	Michael B. Comet
> 	Mail to : comet@INS.CWRU.Edu

There's Kerberized telnet source in the v5 distribution (including a v4
implementation).  I believe the better place to get a more up to date
version of this is from the author of the Telent auth rfc at Cray.

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: alan@curta.cc.columbia.edu (Alan Crosswell)
Subject: Re: Telnetd options
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.234933.22768@agora.uucp> bobb@agora.rain.com (Bob  
Beauchemin) writes:
> 
>   I'm trying out the Kerberized Version of telnet/telnetd (dated  
91.03.25
> is this the latest version?) and have a question about the  
authentication
> options of telnetd.
> 
>   Telnetd has five authentication startup options(plus debug):
> 
>   telnetd -a none
>   telnetd -a other
>   telnetd -a user
>   telnetd -a valid
>   telnetd -a off
> 
>   The "user", "valid", and "other" options appear to produce much the  
same
> results (although the "other" seems not to be used in the code). Any
> of these options only seem to allow logon from:
>   1. Kerberized telnet with -a option and
>   2. Kinit'd user and
>   3. User in .klogin file on remote host
> 
>   The "none" option allows kerberized telnet login (without a password)  
and
> non-kerberized telnet login (with a password).
> 
>   Is this how its supposed to work? What is supposed to be the real
> difference between the "user" and "valid" options? I couldn't find any
> docs for this telnetd option and am guessing by experimentation and
> reading the code.
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
> Bob Beauchemin
> bobb@agora.rain.com

I didn't understand the implemention of those options either, so I  
modified telnetd to do what I thought they should mean:
- user: they have a valid Kerberos certificate but don't need to be
        a local unix user.
- valid: they have a valid Kerberos certificate and kuserok says they
        are also a valid local unix user.

I also modified it to exec an optional /bin/login replacement which we
use in conjunction with "-a user" to have a kerberized "application  
gateway" where a local user id on the host providing the service is not
what decides whether someone is authorized, rather the /bin/login 
replacement makes the authorization decision.  The gateway is actually
a telnet frontend to an SNA session to a CICS application.  Yet another
use for Don Libes' expect program:-)

I can make the mods available if you are interested.
/a
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bagate!socrates!bbh7rq5 (Davies)
Subject: Xdm and Xlock and kerberos
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:34:16 GMT

I was wondering if anyone had any information about whether
there are kerberized versions of Xdm, the X login program, and/or
Xlock.  

If so, where can I find these?

Thanks for anyone's help!
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: mbc@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael B. Comet)
Subject: Kerberizing Telnet help needed
Reply-To: mbc@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael B. Comet)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:26:43 GMT


	Hello,

		I am working on trying to get telnet to work with
kerberos and would like to know if anyone has done so or can point me to
some docs that would help.  I have heard that there was a document which
I think describes the telnet authentication option.  I was unable to
find this in the RFC directory for the ftp site I looked at or under the
internet-draft directories.  Any help would be appreciated.

		Please post a message here or send mail to the address
below.  Thanks.

	Michael B. Comet
	Mail to : comet@INS.CWRU.Edu
From: bobb@agora.rain.com (Bob Beauchemin)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: Telnetd options
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:49:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.1992Jul21.234933.22768
Organization: Open Communications Forum


  I'm trying out the Kerberized Version of telnet/telnetd (dated 91.03.25
is this the latest version?) and have a question about the authentication
options of telnetd.

  Telnetd has five authentication startup options(plus debug):

  telnetd -a none
  telnetd -a other
  telnetd -a user
  telnetd -a valid
  telnetd -a off

  The "user", "valid", and "other" options appear to produce much the same
results (although the "other" seems not to be used in the code). Any
of these options only seem to allow logon from:
  1. Kerberized telnet with -a option and
  2. Kinit'd user and
  3. User in .klogin file on remote host

  The "none" option allows kerberized telnet login (without a password) and
non-kerberized telnet login (with a password).

  Is this how its supposed to work? What is supposed to be the real
difference between the "user" and "valid" options? I couldn't find any
docs for this telnetd option and am guessing by experimentation and
reading the code.

  Thanks,

Bob Beauchemin
bobb@agora.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn)
Subject: Referenced Data Transfer
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:45:31 GMT

Peter.Sylvester@inria.fr writes:

>> I vaguely remember hearing that X.400(92) would include some kind of
>> standard for exchanging news between different systems. Has this been
>> dropped or have I received false information from the beginning ?

There is a X.gc (gc=group communication) standard in preparation, but
as far as I know it won't be ready for X.400(92). Perhaps 1995???
The technical details are quite fascinating and provide for a much more
comfortable service than e.g. USENET.

>X.400 is still a standard for e-mail, i.e. asynchronous transfer of data.
>These data may be simple text, or have structures like 'an ftam like encoded
>file'. It is not an application for news unless .....

>.... where did I read something about not transfering a document but just
>a reference to it?

ISO DIS 10031-2 Distributed Office Applications, Part 2: Referenced
                Data Transfer

? DFR (which will also be used by X.gc according to recent drafts) allows
similar systems.

But what has NEWS to do with transporting only references?

Markus

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------------------ ISO?  Nicht immer. Aber immer fter! -------------------
From: JPALME@skhb.dafa.se (Jacob Palme SKHB)
Subject: Extension of X.400 to news
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
X400-Received: by /PRMD=QZ/ADMD=TEDE/C=SE/;
	Relayed; 28 Jul 92 12:11:40+0200
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:27:16 GMT

> I vaguely remember hearing that X.400(92) would include some kind of
> standard for exchanging news between different systems. Has this been
> dropped or have I received false information from the beginning ?

ISO and CCITT are working on a future standard for group
communication and computer conferencing. This will include
features like those in Usenet News. The standard is not
expected to be ready until in 2-3 years time. Our next
meeting will be in Oslo in October and thereafter in
New Jersey in December.

The most active participants in this work are myself,
Jacob Palme, Stockholm University, Murray Turoff,
New Jersey Institute of Technology and Steve Benford,
Nottingham University and Hiromiki Moriyama.

E-mail addresses:
Hiromiki Moriyama <moriyama@nttpro.ntt.jp>
Murray Turoff,103 <murray@eies2.njit.edu>
Steve Benford <sdb@Cs.Nott.AC.UK>
Jacob Palme <jpalme@dsv.su.se>
From: genillou@litsun20.epfl.ch (Guy Genilloud)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: Re: Books on X400 (Re: Request for FAQ)
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:11:56 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <90998981.A322@netman.nms>, rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan) writes:
|> 
|> I am tring to get a good understanding of X400 too. I had contacted a
|> leading figure in SNMP circles for his opinion of the book
|> "An Introduction to X400 Message Handling Standards" by S Radicatti.
|> While he said he wouldn't recommend the book, he asked me to look
|> up a book by "three swedes" whose names he couldn't remember. He
|> seemed to think highly of the book. Does anyone know of an X400
|> book written by three Swiss gentlemen ?
|> 
The book you are looking for might be "X.400 Message Handling: Standards,
Interworking, Applications" by B. Plattner, C Lanz, H. Lubick, M. Mueller,
and T. Walter, Addison-Wesley, UK (1991), 378pp.
There is a review of this book in Computer Communications, vol.15, no 5, 
June 1992.



Guy Genilloud
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From: Peter.Sylvester@inria.fr
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:54:14 GMT

> *In additions the X.400(92) standard seems to be ready soon including
> *a lot of aditional highly interesting features (file transfer, voice
> *mail, ...). What is still missing in the X.400 family of standards is
> *something like a news system (USENET etc.).

> I vaguely remember hearing that X.400(92) would include some kind of
> standard for exchanging news between different systems. Has this been
> dropped or have I received false information from the beginning ?

X.400 is still a standard for e-mail, i.e. asynchronous transfer of data.
These data may be simple text, or have structures like 'an ftam like encoded
file'. It is not an application for news unless .....

.... where did I read something about not transfering a document but just
a reference to it? The sending message transfer agent determines by whatever
means that it would be better not to transfer some (large?) body part but rather
a globally unique reference to it that can be used later when the user agent
is asked to present the body to the user. The actual body part will then be
retrieved by FTAM or something like that (it may also be a reference to some
CD containing a 2 hours video) that is available in a library or was distributed
using 'snail mail').
Anyway, the technique can be used for news: You distribute just a set of
as global references to messages. A news receiver user agent would then either use
ftam to retrieve data, or maybe it would be sufficient to generate
a nondelivery report saying that this or that file cannot be 'deferenced', so
that the originating mta would do this for you and send the dereferenced data,
i.e. those articles that you do not have.



Ah well, I read this (the first part) in one of the ERCIM newsletters, is someone
from GMD Berlin listening?

Peter Sylvester  -- Inria France
From: jon_care@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: 88 and 84.
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:11:38 GMT
Reply-To: jon_care@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Organization: Hicom Sevices

Can someone please post me the answer to this:
What is the difference between x400(84) and x400(88)? IN the Uk academic 
community, which is more widely used, and which does ISODE support?

Also - I plan to have one mailer-relay for a large LAN, which will take in
x400 (and grey book, maybe SMTP) mail from the outside world (I planned to
use a mailer like PP, running on UNIX) and relay out to workstations
talking either: MHS (pegasus on PC) or SMTP/POP. Has anyone any comments on
how this can best be acheived?

-Jon Care

*CAUTION: .sig under construction. Wear a hard hat.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: paradyme@muug.mb.ca (Marc Caron)
Subject: looking for FAQ on X400
Summary: Looking for tech info on X400
Keywords: X400
Organization: Manitoba Unix User Group, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: ?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:35:07 GMT

As with jon_care@hicom.org, I am looking for a fairly good book on
X.400 overview and technical considerations. We may required X400 
to be used in some or our Financial Trading Applications in 
Europe. Can anyone suggest one? IS there an FAQ for this group?
Thanks in advance.
Marc (paradyme@muug.mb.ca).
From: hofrichter@fokus.gmd.de (Klaus Hofrichter)
Subject: ERCIM-Article External References
Original-Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:02:10 GMT
PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line

Peter Sylvester  -- Inria France writes:
> .... where did I read something about not transferring a

> document but just a reference to it? The sending message

> transfer agent determines by whatever...
...
> Ah well, I read this (the first part) in one of the ERCIM

> newsletters, is someone
> from GMD Berlin listening?


Peter and the rest:

The referenced article was published in ERCIM No 9 (about one page
long). ERCIM is an acronym for European Research Consortium for
Informatics and Mathematics. A number of european research institutes
are publishing this paper.


GMD/Fokus (the german ERCIM Member) has developed a prototype for
External References in E-Mail. The author of the mail can decide
which parts of the mail should be placed in a public (?) database
instead of being delivered by mail. The extracted parts are replaced
by a "external reference", which can be used to retrieve the data
from the database by the receiver.

It is possible to create something like "news" with this approach. An
author can create a reference for multiple use, that means that you
can resolve the reference more than once. It is also possible, to
replace the piece of data in the database. This allows something like
updating the news.
The prototype can be demonstrated (based on NeXTstep User Interface),
but there is no public available piece of code outside of GMD. The
prototype does not use special features of X.400, because the
reference-data is placed inside of the ascii-body. But we are working
on this issue.
If you need more information please send a mail.

- Klaus

P.S. I am not a member of this mailing-list. You should send
flames/comments directly.

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From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: Books on X400 (Re: Request for FAQ)
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:03:10 GMT
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

In article <1992Jul17.225049.26285@lut.ac.uk> jon_care@hicom.org writes:
>Hello.
>I would like to know more about the joys(!) of using X400. I am fairly
>conversant with X25 - does this list post a FAQ of any kind?
>If not - can anyone recommend a good book on the subject?
>Thanks.
>
>Replies by email may be sent to:
>jonc@uk.ac.plym.sc (JNT Grey Book)
>JON_CARE@hicom.org (Internet)
>
>I would be grateful for any responses - one of my duties will be to 
>implement a site X400 mail gateway, serving on-site SMTP and SPX/IPX
>mailhosts.

I am tring to get a good understanding of X400 too. I had contacted a
leading figure in SNMP circles for his opinion of the book
"An Introduction to X400 Message Handling Standards" by S Radicatti.
While he said he wouldn't recommend the book, he asked me to look
up a book by "three swedes" whose names he couldn't remember. He
seemed to think highly of the book. Does anyone know of an X400
book written by three Swiss gentlemen ?

At any rate, could anyone recommend more  lit in this area, esp for
a person who has good understanding of common Internet suite of 
protocols ?

Thanx.

---
S Ramakrishnan, Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
From: genovese@ophelia.nersc.gov (Tony Genovese)
Subject: Re: X400 mail connection to Internet
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:42:28 GMT



>
> Is PP a good x.400 product?

	Sure, look at rfc1330 it sugests that the ESnet community
use it.  We have been using it as our main Mail hub/gateway. I
like its flexibility, loging and most of all its support community.


Tony...
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400