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From: tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Global Reflections / From Zagreb to Houston
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:15:34 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science


>Guess who is starting to look like another Iraq in the eyes of the world?

>From Houston Chronicle's weekly "World Press Commentary" corner [4/12/92],
>a cartoon:

>  A prisoner ["Kurds"] receiving the "stretch treatment" in a torture 
>  chamber from S. Hussein at the helm of one gear ["Iraq"] pulling on 
>  the arms, at one end and ...
>  his Turkish military counterpart operating another gear ["Turkey"]
>  pulling on the legs, at the other.

>  And here's Uncle Sam [Georgie B.?] with his doctor's bag, standing 
>  next to the Saddam and raising a finger of [fake] caution at him: 
>  "...NO,NO...!".

>                                      by: Vjesnik / Zagreb, Croatia


>Aw, how could the world get along without the good doctor?  And
>where would he be, if he wasn't needed without any 'bad boys'
>around?


>msg


This is not funny. Yugoslav's should try to solve their own
problems before attempting to make fun with Turkiye. 
Cheap!

Murat
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Well, 'Radu' Is Not Getting Hasan's 'Imbecile' Postings Anymore.
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:28:00 GMT


<sdhttINNa2r@agate.berkeley.edu>
160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu

>Well, I am not getting Hasan's imbecile postings anymore. 

You got me there, 'Tomescu at UCBerkeley.' I guess my plans to
install myself as 'King of Berkeley' are washed up now. 

>However, PPP and Law of one Price aside , he is right if and only if:
>Absolute prices are in Turkyie more than 4 times lower than absolute
>prices in Greece. This follows since Greece has a GNP/capita  roughly
>four times, in absolute value, larger than Turkyie...So, for the average
>Turk, who makes 4 times less than the average Greek, life is going to be
>better iff the market prices he faces are more than 4 times smnaller..

You have set up straw horses and knocked them down - I am not impressed.
The existence in two countries of nontraded goods and services whose
prices are not linked internationally allows you to put your foot where
your mouth is, 'Tomescu.' Because the price of a nontradable is determined
entirely by its domestic supply and demand curves, shifts in those curves
may cause the domestic price of a broad commodity basket to change
relative to the foreign price of the same basket. In a nut shell, the 
purchasing power of the Greek currency will fall in Greece when the prices 
of nontradables rise. Besides, the output of the construction industry 
is also nontradable. However, Turkiye's competitiveness in contracting is 
around 6.88 when Greece is not even on the map. Also, transport costs 
may be so large relative to the cost of producing some goods and services 
that they can never be traded internationally at a profit. Thus, your
myths about the Greek economy don't stand up to the realities on
the ground. Consult some less biased sources, for a change. See: Balassa, 
Kravis and Lipsey.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: teoman@milton.u.washington.edu (Teoman Smith)
Subject: Re: Mutluk
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:46:46 GMT

In article <703187288@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:
>
>      Next time you decide to cry, hide behind your mother's skirts!

I thought Duke-babies were the cry babies :) :) I heard that Duke is a
replica of Princeton with a bunch of cry-babies and rednecks... :)

Teoman Smith 

>
>-- Eduard Wiener


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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: '*.*.soviet' Includes More Than 50 Million Turks, 'Joni.'
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:37:00 GMT


<1992Apr14.100406.4894@mits.mdata.fi>
jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)

>Just form alt.propaganda.turkish or something similar. I don't quite
>understand why I have to read masses of Turkish propaganda in a group
>called soc.culture.soviet. 

A group called '*.*.soviet' also includes more than 50 million
Turks, 'Joni.' 

                '*.*.soviet' =/ '*.*.russia' 

What you are doing constitutes dodging the issue of Turkish genocide, 
and trying to bully people with insults and whatnot. The fact that
you don't like this doesn't make one unobjective.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: shaitan@chinet.chi.il.us (Abdel Shaitan)
Subject: In the interest of communication...again
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:56:11 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

I posted this a few days ago, but it doesn't seem to have propagated to a
number of sites.  Of course, this must be coincidence, so I'll repost... 

Hasan B. Mutlu has been quite difficult to contact.  I am sure he would like
to be able to carry on individual correspondence with people who have comments
or observations on his postings, so I would like to share this with you:

	Hasan B. Mutlu

EMAIL:
	han@att.att.com, OR
	h.mutlu@att.att.com, OR
	att!ihlpa!han (get to 'att' however you can)

TELEPHONE:
	(708) 979-6684

MAIL:
	Hasan B. Mutlu
	c/o AT&T Bell Laboratories
	2000 N. Naperville Rd.
	PO Box 3033
	Naperville, IL  60566-7033

-Abdel
From: orhan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Orhan Mehmet Arsel)
Subject: Re: 'Skartsis' Lives With "If's" And "Illusions:" Competitive Enough?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:57:44 GMT

In article <m0lbWWb-0003YPC@ddsw1.mcs.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:

>
>Turkiye's competitiveness in Ceramics is 7.20. 
>Turkiye's competitiveness in processed foods is 7.11. 
>Turkiye's competitiveness in textiles is 6.97. 
>Turkiye's competitiveness in contracting... 

>
>Hasan B-) Mutlu


Bu bilgilere benim de ihticayacim var,  eger ayrintili bilgi
saglayabilir ya da kaynak gosterebilirseniz cok memnun olurum.

Orhan.
From: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Maclardan ne haber?
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:48:36 GMT
Reply-To: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <1992Apr11.163811.4311@news.unomaha.edu>,
MUTLU@Zeus.unomaha.edu writes:
> Selam,
> 
> bu haftanin maclarindan haberdar olan arkadaslara sesleniyorum,
mumkunse
> sonuclari news'e gecebilirmisiniz.
> Simdiden tesekkurler.

	Besiktas 1	Fenerbahce 0

	Sampiyon Kara Kartallar! 
>
Selam getirmisem
Suleyman

> Saygilarla
> Mutlu
From: ertas@athena.mit.edu (Mehmet D Ertas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Karadeniz Turkuleri (Was: Re: News)
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:26:03 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr10.091546.20234@ulrik.uio.no>, suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr10.001542.23026@athena.mit.edu>, ertas@athena.mit.edu
|> (Mehmet D Ertas) writes:
........
|> > Bu yaziyi okuyunca aklima geldi: gecen yaz Turkiye'deyken cesitli Halk
|> Turkulerinin
|> > kayitlarini aramistim; ancak kasetcilerden pek birsey cikmamisti.
|> Ozellikle Karadeniz
|> > yoresinden derlenmis turkulerin bulundugu bir kaset,plak,CD vs. olup
|> olmadigini
|> > bilen varsa bana hakkinda bilgi gonderebilir mi? 
|> 
|> 	Bende cok aradim ne yazik cok zor bu tur muzik kasetleri bulmak.
|> 	Muzik dukkanlarina sorunca hemen ibo'yu bagirtiyorlar ciyak-ciyak
|> 	bir halk turkusu tamamen arabesklesmis, her tonuyla.
|> 
|> 
|> 	Ama cok Azeri kasetleri elde edebildim.
|> 
Bu bahsettiginiz Azeri turkuler ozgun mu, yoksa yeniden duzenleme mi?
Ornegin Ezginin Gunlugu adli grubun bircok Azeri yorumu var, genellikle
kendilerine gore duzenlemisler ama (Alagozlu Yar albumleri iyi bir ornek). 
Oylesi de cok guzel, ancak ozgun turkuleri de duymak isterdim.

|> 
|> > Cesitli turku sozlerinin nete gonderilmesi de ne guzel olur!
|> 
|> 	Cok guzel bir fikir, Turkiyede yasayan arkadaslar, belki derlemede
|> 	faydali olurlar. Bir zamanlar OTDU'de cok guzel bir halk turkuleri
|> 	calismasi vardi, merak ediyorum ne oldu, devam ediyormu?
|> 
|> 	Nota da gonderilebilirmi newsgroup'ta bir kalip bulunursa??
|> 	ASCII-nota hakkinda bilgisi olan varmi?
|> 	Aslinda benim notaya daha cok ihtiyacim oluyor, bazen cok guzel
|> 	yeni turkuler kulagima carpiyor, kaydini bulmak zor.

Evet, bence de nota gonderilmesi guzel olur, ancak nete nota gondermenin
zor olacagini dusunerek sozlerle yetinmeyi dusunmustum. Belki basit bir ASCII
kalip ve kisa bir programla bu is halledilebilir. Eger nota gondermeye istekli
varsa gerekli programlari hazirlayabilirim. Bu arada Turku sozlerini paylasmak
isteyenler icin simdiden hodri meydan!

|>      
|> > Selam ve Sevgiler,
|> 	Bendende
|>  
|> > Deniz
|> 
|> Selam getirmisem
|> Suleyman Kondakci
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan Senel)
Subject: Bu ne yazi ayol.....
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:36:42 GMT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asagidaki yazi dun postahanemize ulasti. Yorumlar bana ait degildir.
Kisacasi yazi beni baglamaz. Ben baskasinin FORWARDcisiyim. 
Hakan
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>Selamun Aleykum
>___________________________________
>   Ey bu vatan gencleri! Firenkleri taklide calismayiniz! Aya(Acaba),
>Avrupa'nin size ettikleri hadsiz zulum ve adavetten(dusmanliktan) sonra,
>hangi akil ile onlarin sefahat ve batil efkarlarina ittiba edip
>emniyet ediyorsunuz? Yok! Yok! Sefihane taklid edenler, ittiba degil,
>belki $uursuz olarak onlarin safina iltihak edip kendi kendinizi ve
>karde$lerinizi idam ediyorsunuz. Agah(Uyanik) olunuz ki, siz
>ahlaksizcasina ittiba ettikce, hamiyet davasinda yalancilik ediyorsunuz!
>Cunki $u surette ittibainiz, milliyetinize kar$i bir istihfaftir(hafife
>almaktir) ve millete bir istihzadir(alay etmektir)!
>_______________________________________

>Muhabbetlerimle
>Fikret

Bu mektubu FORWARD eden sevgili arkadasim,
   Bu mektubu size FORWARD eden arkadasin moronlugundan olsa gerek 
yazida bir takim cumle dusuklukleri gordum ve de duzelteyim dedim.
Benim sizden ricam, boyle anlamli bir yazinin FORWARD edilmeden once, 
FORWARDci arkadas tarafindan okunmasi. Boylece FORWARD zincirinin her 
halkasi yazidaki hatalardan, hic olmadi 10 tanesini duzeltse, 5-6 
FORWARD sonra yazi anlasilabilir hal almaya  baslayabilir. Zaten 
atalarimiz ne demis, "Bir FORWARDcinin nesi var, bes FORWARDcinin 
sesi var".

BediuAZMAN Korhan
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From: HQ.GGG@FORSYTHE.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: News/Haber
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BITNET@forsythe.Stanford.EDU>


     Mon Apr 06, 1992 11:18 am  EST
     A. Murat Tekalp
     tekalp@ee.rochester.edu

    spor haberleri


24.hafta
Cumartesi
 Bakirkoy        4 - Genclerbirligi 1
Pazar
 Fenerbahce      2 - Bolu           0   (Aykut, Gerson)
 Galatasaray     0 - Gaziantep      1
 Konya           0 - Besiktas       3
 Ankaragucu      3 - Sariyer        1
 AdanaDemir      0 - Trabzon        0
 Bursa           0 - Altay          0
 Aydin           2 - Samsun         1


League Table

Team            G   W  T  L  GF  GA    P
----------------------------------------
Besiktas        24 18  6  -  48  15   60
Fenerbahce      23 18  2  3  56  22   56
Trabzon         24 16  4  4  51  23   52
Galatasaray     23 16  3  4  37  16   51
Bursa           24  8  8  8  32  30   32
Aydin           24  9  5 10  27  34   32
Sariyer         24  9  4 11  27  36   31
Gaziantep       24  7  9  8  26  30   30
Genclerbirligi  24  6 11  7  34  37   29
Bakirkoy        24  6  7 11  32  36   25
Ankaragucu      24  5  9 10  26  36   24
Altay           24  6  6 12  24  38   24
Bolu            24  6  5 13  23  33   23
AdanaDemir      24  4  8 12  22  49   20
Konya           24  4  7 13  21  30   19
Samsun          24  3  6 15  29  50   15


25.hafta
 Besiktas        - Fenerbahce
 Trabzon         - Galatasaray
 Altay           - Bakirkoy
 Genclerbirligi  - Ankaragucu
 Sariyer         - Konya
 Bolu            - AdanaDemir
 Gaziantep       - Aydin
 Samsun          - Bursa


II.Turkiye Futbol ligi C grubunda Kayserispor simdiden sampiyonlugunu ilan
etti ve gelecek yil I.Ligde oynamaga hak kazandi. A Grubunda Kocaelispor
geri kalan maclarinda 1 puan daha alirsa sampiyonlugunu resmen ilan edecek.
B grubunda Karsiyaka liderligini surduruyor.

8 Nisan Carsamba gunu A Milli takimi Ankara'da Danimarka ile ozel bir mac
yapacak.


BASKETBOL

Basketbolda final grubu maclari basladi. Toplu sonuclar soyle:

Galatasaray 69 - Fenerbahce 89
Natas 75 - Pasabahce 84
Cukurova 60 - Kolej 61
Tofas 68 - Efes 63

Ikinci maclar bugun ve yarin yapilacak.

Bayanlar liginde Galatasaray Fenerbahce'yi 61-60 yenerek sampiyonlukta
onemli bir adim atti.
From: ko@cns.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human,soc.history,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: A Lonely Howl in a 21st Century Electronic Wasteland
Keywords: Armenophoia, Killing Babies
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:09:30 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

dbd@urartu.SDPA.org (David Davidian) writes:

>Turkish Genocide Apology <9204021949.A1920FE@anadolu.michigan.com> via its
>scribal dolt, [(*], han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu), posted the 
>following in response to <1483500195@igc.org> pnmideast@igc.org:

>[(*] All I saw was a series of pictures of slaughtered 3000+ Turkish and 
>[(*] Kurdish women and babies by the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle and 
>[(*] PKK. 

>Go ahead, product of an ultra-nationalist Ankara regime, where and when have
>you seen a picture of me, or anything associated with the SDPA, involved 
>in killing anything? Go ahead, Mr. Scribe, PROVE what you have accused me of!

Like many people, I think the new coalition government in Ankara
is far from being ultra-nationalist. I also think about what you
said about the 1000+ women/children/elderly massacred in Khojaly, Azerbaijan,
on 26.27 February 1992 and your support of the Armenian militia men in Karabakh 
that commited this crime. Regarding your hundreds of articles,
I think you are a shameless Turkish-hater racist who supports *anything*
that would damage Turkish lives, or Turkish people or their state.
All you do is spreading the hatred and conflict.  

I don't think you have any credibility left after these years, and all
you can do is baseless screams. The more you have no base the more you 
scream. I think it  is the time for you to leave the console to a 
reasonable and fresh Armenian netter, that we can take seriously.

Kutluk
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: The Turks Were An Overwhelming Majority In Every Province, 'Zagros.'
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:59:00 GMT


<ku7r2jINN48@girtab.usc.edu>
madjdsad@girtab.usc.edu (Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi)

>Nations, the Minority Rights Group, etc. supporting my figures.  In fact, I
>can also (if I want to do what Mutlu does) "prove" that the number of Kurds
>in Turkey is actually a majority (if I change the definition from that of
>self-defintion to one based on saying that anyone who is, say, 1/16 Kurdish
>is Kurdish....

But why is it only 'Aryan Kurds' that are more important than anybody
else on the face of this earth? Well, anyway, I am willing to listen
to your 'proofs;' please list them. Could you, from your store of
vast knowledge, enlighten us on this subject?

>How about it?  We will simply state that the number of Kurds in Turkey is 
>somewhere between 10 and 25% (the upper and lower estimates).  Then, everyone
>can be happy because no matter what your source, you will fall within it.
>In any case, it is a sizeable minority.

What desperate situation are you referring to? I certainly don't look
to you for answers on matters of confidence intervals.

>Besides there are a lot more interesting issues to discuss like the fact that
>there was no acknowledgement of a Kurdish presence in Turkey for most of
>Turkey's existance, the fact that the restrictions on Kurdish were only
>lifted in 1991, and the fact that the Mutlu still doesn't realize that the
>year is 1992, not 1929....

Took you into the future, the unknown? Scary? Many recounts of the
Kurdish territorial claims begin with blaming Ataturk and the 
Turkish War of Independence for frustrating the Treaty of Serves.
The real failure, however, was with the treaty itself, which was
an impracticable piece of international legislation, 'Zagros Cavus.' 
The Kurdish partition failed because of demographic and treaty drafting
problems. The Kurds were relatively weak and factionalized. Hence,
it was necessary that they constituted a majority in order to realize
any territorial sovereignty over eastern Turkiye. The Turks, however,
were an overwhelming majority in every province of Turkiye. Thus,
the provisions of the Sevres Treaty were inconsistent with each 
other and the demographic realities of Turkiye. The practicality
of the Serves Treaty depended on the unprovoked mass transfer and
oppression of Turkish population. 

The Turkish War of Independence was the result of the injustice
brought on by the Treaty of Serves upon the Turkish people.
Sank in?

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: demiralp@juliet.caltech.edu (Demiralp, Ersan)
Subject: karadeniz otelleri
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:16:00 GMT

x-sscb'deki son gelismelerle karadeniz turizmi canlanmistir. baltaci'larin 
namini duymus katerina'larin sarp koyunden (sinirdan) samsun'a kadar 
butun otellerde agirlandigi soyleniyor. (hatta kimilerinin findik guzeli 
secildigi de rivayetler arasinda.) son zamanlardaki gazete yayinlarinda 
uzmanlar, karadeniz'de gelecek bir kac yil icinde cinsel hastalik patlamasi
beklendigini, rokeltenin iyi hava kosullariyla beklenenin cok ustunde 
olacagini belirtiyorlar. findik taban fiyatlarinin dusuk olmasi durumunda  
ureticinin findiklarini tuccarlara satacabilecegi de  belirtilmektedir. 
bu arada orhun bulgur unye'de duzenlenen "islam'da findik" konulu bir  
ilim toplantisina gonderdigi bir takvim yapragiyla findik guzeli 
yarismalarini kinamistir. 

ersan 



Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: han@sarp.utaaic.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Those Who Asserted Their Turkish Origin Were Simply Killed, 'Bonten.'
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:44:00 GMT


<oli.702552442@ernie>
oli@math.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Bonten)

>>Your inability to distinguish between 'terrorists' and 'civilian
>>population' is truly amazing.

>It seems to me that this inability is on the side of the turkish police forces.

Can you spell 'the massacre of 3000+ defenseless Turkish women and 
children by KGB/PKK,' 'Bonten?'

>>Your opinion. Hardly fact, hardly useful.

>Police don't use military tanks.

But, KGB/PKK terrorists use military weapons. Under KGB/PKK, the 
systematic policy aiming at the annihilation of the Turks reached 
its tragic peak. Those who asserted their Turkish origin were simply 
killed by KGB/PKK.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: teoman@milton.u.washington.edu (Teoman Smith)
Subject: Re: basketball news
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:30:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.031400.1875@ee.rochester.edu> tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp) writes:

Does anyone know who is playing on these teams anymore? Cumhuriyet arrives
here at University of Washington a little late... Just curious about the
Galatasaray team especially. 

Thanks
Teoman Smith

>Basketbol playofflarinda Fenerbahce ikinci macta da Galatasaray'a
>fark atip yari finale yukseldi.
>
>Fenerbahce 68  Galatasaray 58
>
>
>
>
>
>


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From: camas@trooa.enet.dec.com (Yuksel Camas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Kurdish population in Turkey
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:32:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation




	According to the 'World Almanac and Book of Facts' (World Almanac, 
	New York, 1991), the Kurdish population in Turkey is 12% of 
	Turkey's total population (that's around 6,785,000 out of the total 
	estimated population of 56,549,000 in 1990).
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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Pathological Liars Have Short Wings, 'Morning:' 'Mythomania.'
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:45:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.m0lYmKT-0003YPC


<1992Apr8.093451.453@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)

>Naughty boy Hasan, you don't have an account at this address.

Bring tears to my eyes and a lump to my throat.

>Stealing false accounts again? 

Pathological liars have short wings, 'morning.' Now, where were we?
It is not surprising, that parts of the Dashnaktzoutun collaborated 
with the Nazis.

 "Wholly opportunistic the Dashnaktzoutun have been variously
  pro-Nazi, pro-Russia, pro-Soviet Armenia, pro-Arab, pro-Jewish,
  as well as anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, anti-Communist, and 
  anti-Soviet - whichever was expedient."[1]

[1] John Roy Carlson (Arthur Derounian), 'Cairo to Damascus,' 
    Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1951, p. 438.
  

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
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