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From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Subject: Re: Audio editing (Was: SLV-R5)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:57:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.014830.1063@muddcs.claremont.edu> nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi) writes:
>[...] how then is the video insert handled, if the hi-fi
>track is mixed in?  Wouldn't I lose the hi-fi track if I tried to do
>a video insert?

Since the hi-fi tracks are recorded along with the video, a "video insert"
means re-recording the video AND hi-fi audio, while leaving the linear audio
untouched. It's not an ideal situation, but it's pretty much dictated by the
way the hi-fi tracks are recorded on the tape.

--
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: hal@nexus.yorku.ca (Harvey Haldorson)
Subject: Re: MicroSoft Windows 3.1 video software
Organization: York University
Distribution: north america
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:42:29 GMT

duvall@eagle.sangamon.edu (Mike Duvall) writes:

|mandeev.sandhu (gillu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com) wrote:
|> 	I was reading an article in Mac Week about video software
|> supplied by Microsoft and Apple. There was a mention that Windows 3.1
|> has some new features for video editing!! Apple has a product
|> called Quick Time which was explained in some detail. I was 
|> wondering if anyone on the net knows about Windows 3.1 video
|> editing features.
|> 
|> Mandeep
|> ms@honasa.att.com 
|Two new windows (yuk) programs are the Matrox Studio and the Video
|Machine. Both have high end 4:2:2 processing, effects, graphics, and
|machine control. Both require huge drives for video storage and highend
|machines. Both still have drawbacks in image quality compared to pro
|video gear. Apple Link for Video Machine is FAST.E  Pricetag is around
|$5000 for the card. Matrox is about $15,000 for the cards. Low end
|expect to see quicktime players for the IBM-PC before too long but look
|at Adobe Premier or Macromind Mediamaker for the Mac. I believe
|Macromind might have a PC version of Action you might look at. Whatever
|you buy storing even low resolution video take big bites
|--

When you suggest that they have drawbacks compared to professional
gear, would you say the same of the DVE's from the video toaster?  

If I understand these two to be edit controllers as well as switchers,
et al, I would like to know more about them.  Can you expand a bit on
them or tell me where I can get info please.

thanx.

hal
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: cfkjk1@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Karl-Ludwig Konrad)
Subject: Re: Looking for LONG life batteries.
Summary: choose camcorder first
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:05:47 GMT
Expires: december 1 1992
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

Followup-To: jonathan garham
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: 

>in response to jonathan graham from montana univ., both in
rec.video.prod. and backcountry video:

1983 It began for me in the Windriver range in WYO. with 17 lbs of  camera,
portable deck & 3 batteries. Since that time the weight has been reduced,
and I continue looking for improving the type of power supply that goes on
the road, or the backcountry. Driving long distance to get to spots in
Colorado & Wyoming I use a small plug in inverter that supplies a 100W of
110V from the cigarette lighter in my car. This helps with charging up
batteries with my regular 110V recharger in between backcountry trips.

Next I'd recommend getting a car-cord for your camcorder and you are free
to expand your choices of battery packs, as for example universal
long-life nicad packs. They start at $49.-. This includes a charger and
the femal cigarette lighter terminal. Depending on camcorder this will
supply 2-4hrs. Beyond that I could use some help with specifics on
selfmade lithium packs, or any ideas re: solar rechargers etc.

Before closing, I'd like to express my understanding for the concern about
batteries, but I don't understand why you would purchase a camcorder based
upon the available battery choices. With a little tinkering you can mate
any pack to almost any camcorder. I'd first go for the tool that does the job
I'd want it to do.

8mm and Hi-8mm camcorders are great companions to backpacking
Any 8mm camcorder is good enough to record memories for home use. If you want
to impress friends with your good work, get a tripod and learn to shoot
well by avoiding unsteady shots, too much zooming and panning.Beyond that,
look for a Hi-8 camcorder.This let's you edit and make copies without
loosing too much in quality.

Anyway, regardless of the type of camcorder, there are plenty of battery
options. Even the local K-Mart carries adapters for Sony camcorders that
allows the use of  several brands of batteries and Solidex sells a battery
holder for AAA batteries for a mere $11.90. That should provide the
serious tinkerer with a few ideas.

Karl Konrad - WEIU-TV at Eastern Illinois University 

 


Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: dave@imax.imax.com (Dave Martindale)
Subject: Re: S-video <-> separated video (or Hi8|S-VHS  <-> Betacam)
Organization: Imax Corporation, Mississauga Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:25:27 GMT

(Ralph Seguin) writes:
>
>Hi.  Sorry for the question, I don't know where the FAQ is (or
>if there is one for this group).  Anyhow, the story goes as
>such.  I want to be able to do transfers from Betacam to Hi8 or
>S-VHS and vice versa.  I am a complete neophile to Betacam (having
>not seen the ports up close one one yet), and I don't know what it
>has in the way of ports.  I believe that they have separatated Y/C
>video somewhere on there.

Betacam does *not* record Y/C video.  It records Y, R-Y, and B-Y.
To convert this into Y/C video, you would need an ntsc encoder with
Y/C outputs - they do exist.

If you don't have the budget for that, there's a good chance that
the Betacam equipment has composite video output available somehow.
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: duvall@eagle.sangamon.edu (Mike Duvall)
Subject: Re: Looking for a place to sell/trade used 3/4" equipment
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Sangamon State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:09:14 GMT

I have Panasonic decks and edit controller and they are not worth the
anything!!!!!!! Panasonic was famous for terrible engineering on their
3/4". Make sure the machines play and record before you do anything. The
edit machines are notorious for not making edits.  Good Luck
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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Kenny Adams)
Subject: Re: Portable Betacam player
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:39:40 GMT

hi,
	you might also try a sony BVW-22.  it is a playback only ac powered
machine that will play the large SP cassettes.  it has an rf out on the back
as well as video and audio.

kenny

-- 
kenny adams                charlottetown prince edward island canada
caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca
standard disclaimers apply.... 
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi)
Subject: SLV-R5
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:09:39 GMT


I have a quick question about the SLV-R5, for someone who uses one...
Is it possible to insert edit the two linear audio tracks separately?
I understand that the hi-fi audio is integrated with the video signal,
but I'd like to be able to insert edit with either of the two audio
tracks individually with an RM-E700 or RM-E300.  Sony's brochures don't
make any indication of this at all.

Nick
From: hirani@larch.Eng.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: reviews of Hi 8 camcorders needed
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:50:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
Reply-To: hirani@larch.Eng.Sun.COM ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: larch

Does anyone have reviews of Hi 8 camcorders that you can send me by e-mail ?
I'm particularly interested in Sony TR81, TR101 and V801 but I'd appreciate
hearing about other Hi 8 camcorders too. 

I'm sure people have posted reviews/personal evaluations of various camcorders
here. I have just started reading this newsgroup.

Thanks
Anil Hirani

anil.hirani@eng.sun.com  or
hirani@sun.com
From: hirani@larch.Eng.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: RCTC and software edit controllers
Date: 19 Nov 1992 06:42:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hirani@larch.Eng.Sun.COM ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: larch

I am thinking of buying a Hi 8 camcorder which writes RCTC. I would like
to use my camera as the player machine during editing. As an edit controller
I want to buy the necessary boards and software. 

I don't own a computer yet, but that is another future purchase, I have'nt
decided what I'll buy, depends on what software and boards I need.

Question : are there software edit controllers that can control camcorders
with an edit control port. The camcorders I'm thinking of are 
Sony V801 or Sony TR101. These understand VISCA edit control protocol.

Actually to be quite honest, I'm not sure that I'll be buying the edit
controller software and a computer for a year. But I wanted to buy a camcorder 
which writes some timecode so that when I'm ready for the editing hardware and
software, I'll have raw material to work with.

Is there a future for RCTC and VISCA ? Or should I look for VITC writing
camcorders (and thus be forced away from Hi8)  and assume that there will
be no software available for RCTC and VISCA ?





Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: duncan@loris.cisab.indiana.edu (Shan Duncan)
Subject: edit color of video seq.?
Organization: Indiana University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:24:40 GMT


  In a research project we would like to change the color of a
subject and then replay the video for reaction.

  For example if we have a fish that is red on the belly we would like
to take a display sequence of that fish and change the red color
all through the video sequence before we play it back to another fish.



  How?   Any and ALL suggestions welcome including hardware and software
suggestions!!!!!!!!!!



From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:04:07 GMT
Subject: Re: SLV-R5
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.video.production

>     I have a quick question about the SLV-R5, for someone who uses one...
>     Is it possible to insert edit the two linear audio tracks separately?
>     I understand that the hi-fi audio is integrated with the video signal,
>     but I'd like to be able to insert edit with either of the two audio
>     tracks individually with an RM-E700 or RM-E300.  Sony's brochures don't
>     make any indication of this at all.

There is only one linear audio track on the R5 (ie. it's mono). If you
want stereo linear audio you'll have to go with a Panasonic AG-1960.
Does anyone know if that deck'll do what this guy's asking for?

			-- Chan

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Wanted
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:07 EST  

I am looking for an SL-HF1000 or a CANADIAN/JAPANESE GCS-50.  These GCS-50s 
are the same units as the American GCS-50s with the exception that they record
at the B1 speed.  The 1000 is, of course, a classic, consumer editing-VTR.

Also, I am looking for a BMC-1000K BetaMovie Pro.

If you have either of these or know of someone selling such, please e-mail.


Greg
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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: mac9067@cs.rit.edu (Mark Collien)
Subject: Re: S-video <-> separated video (or Hi8|S-VHS  <-> Betacam)
Followup-To: rec.video.production
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.232527.1236@imax.imax.com>, dave@imax.imax.com (Dave
Martindale) wrote:
> 
> (Ralph Seguin) writes:
> >
> >Hi.  Sorry for the question, I don't know where the FAQ is (or
> >if there is one for this group).  Anyhow, the story goes as
> >such.  I want to be able to do transfers from Betacam to Hi8 or
> >S-VHS and vice versa.  I am a complete neophile to Betacam (having
> >not seen the ports up close one one yet), and I don't know what it
> >has in the way of ports.  I believe that they have separatated Y/C
> >video somewhere on there.
> 
> Betacam does *not* record Y/C video.  It records Y, R-Y, and B-Y.
> To convert this into Y/C video, you would need an ntsc encoder with
> Y/C outputs - they do exist.
> 
> If you don't have the budget for that, there's a good chance that
> the Betacam equipment has composite video output available somehow.


The new industrial Betacam SP line, I can't remember the model #'s, has
inputs and outputs for S-Video, Composite, and R-Y/B-Y.  We did a test
transfer from Hi8 to to Betacam using the S-Video input on this deck.
Your Sony dealer should have all the details.

-- Mark
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Rochester Institute of Technology
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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Portable Betacam player
Reply-To: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:25:55 GMT

I have someone who is interested in obtaining a portable Betacm player
(does not need recording capability) to take around to conferences
to play tapes made on our Sony BVW75 Betacam SP recorder. Presumably
this will require the ability to use an "ordinary" TV monitor.
I have had the BVW35 suggested to me. Price range is up to about $9.5K.
Any recommendations? Thanks,

-Steve

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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: sjk@netcom.com (Shel Kaphan)
Subject: serial control of video recorders
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:23:53 GMT


I am seeking any information about standards (either default or
otherwise) for serial (i.e. RS-232 or whatever) control of
professional video recorders.  Anybody know where to find this
information? 

	Shel Kaphan	
	sjk@netcom.com

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi)
Subject: Audio editing (Was: SLV-R5)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:48:30 GMT


Thanks to everyone who explained to me that the SLV-R5 and other S-VHS
editing systems have a single linear audio track rather than the split
audio of old.  Now, this begs the next logical question:  With a single
linear mono track and a stereo hi-fi signal which is mixed with the
video track, how would one go about overlaying music or other sound
effects on an edited master?  It seems that one could edit JUST the
video/hi-fi track first, and then add in music or sound effects on the
linear mono track.  But do standard editing VCR's allow this kind of
editing?  Also, how then is the video insert handled, if the hi-fi
track is mixed in?  Wouldn't I lose the hi-fi track if I tried to do
a video insert?

I'm just trying to figure out how a new editing system based on S-VHS
or Hi-8 will give me the flexibility I had using old VHS systems which
allowed for inserting video, audio 1, and audio 2.  (My budget is tight,
too.)

Nick
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Filmlook Address
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 04:54:50 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

Sorry for the delay in getting this together.  The address I have for the
Filmlook people is:

	Tiara Productions
	1118 West Magnolia Blvd, Suite A212
	Burbank, CA  91510-7818

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: gilgalad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin)
Subject: S-video <-> separated video (or Hi8|S-VHS  <-> Betacam)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:37:05 GMT


Hi.  Sorry for the question, I don't know where the FAQ is (or
if there is one for this group).  Anyhow, the story goes as
such.  I want to be able to do transfers from Betacam to Hi8 or
S-VHS and vice versa.  I am a complete neophile to Betacam (having
not seen the ports up close one one yet), and I don't know what it
has in the way of ports.  I believe that they have separatated Y/C
video somewhere on there.  What other ports are available on most
Betacams?  Ie, is there an S-video port (I doubt)?  Composite (I doubt)?
Obviously, I want to get the best transfer possible?  If it
is separated Y/C, then where can I get a cable which will mangle it
into S-video (which I believe is just separated, but uses 2 lines
for each Y and C).

PS- I'm also looking for recommendations on S-VHS decks?  I'm going
to buy a Panasonic AG1960, and JVC HRS6800, but I would like one
more recommendation up to $1200 or so (Can't afford an AG7750 :_(

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: duvall@eagle.sangamon.edu (Mike Duvall)
Subject: Re: S-video <-> separated video (or Hi8|S-VHS  <-> Betacam)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Sangamon State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:54:47 GMT

Betacam decks have a composite video out just like you would run to a
monitor, use this if you aren't going for maximum quality. This would be
good for offline editing or even just archiving. If you are looking for
very good quality at a resonable price try a transcoder to change the
component Betacam signal to the Hi8 or SVHS signal. Nova has a
reasonably priced line of card that will fit in a PC, Amiga or in a
stand alone box. 
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|| TTTTT  V    V ||             Associate Professor Communication
||   T     V  V  ||                 Sangamon State University
||   T      V    ||                Springfield, Illinois 62704  
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From: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: GVG200 GPI QUESTION
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:33:40 GMT
Reply-To: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

WE HAVE A GRASS VALLEY 200 W/STREAMLINE AND ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES.
WE ALSO HAVE AN A53 THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE 200 THROUGH E-MEM'S. THE 
E-MEM WILL CALL UP AN EFFECT IN THE ABEKAS, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE,
THROUGH EITHER THE TIMELINE, GPI TEST, OR MANUAL, TO GET THE 200 TO 
TRIGGER THE ABEKAS, ONLY CALL THE EFFECT UP. 

IF YOU CAN HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE MY 200 TRIGGER AN A53, PLKEASE
E-MAIL TO:

PRODUCER@MAPLE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU

THANKS FORANY HELP.

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Subject: great simpsons quote from
Reply-To: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:45:01 EST

-> And if you have doubts about Betamax: Don't.  It is the best consumer
-> format (in all of its subformats).  Beta is better than VHS,
-> SuperBeta is better than VHS-HQ, and ED Beta is much better than
-> S-VHS.  Period.

How can you say that beta is better than vhs ? I thought that old theory
had died a long time ago ( i think about 4 year's now ) . There was a
slight difference in the specs but it's nothing you or i would notice
with our eyes . The difference was only on paper . This was sony's big
scam to keep beta alive when they where begining to see the death of the
beta . Remember sony also said they would never make vhs decks . Looks
like they ate there words.....
--
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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Kenny Adams)
Subject: Re: serial control of video recorders
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:43:36 GMT

hi,
	i believe that most companies use rs-422.  i would be quite
surprised if there were any standards for this protocol.  for sure sony can
supply informayion on their protocol.  i would expect others would do so as
well.  it may be an expensive item to get .

kenny

-- 
kenny adams                charlottetown prince edward island canada
caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca
standard disclaimers apply....
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Sunday, 15 Nov 1992 15:56:09 CET
From: C R Francis <RFRANCIS@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject:    Avid video editor

We are looking for an industrial quality video editing system, which should
run from and control a pair of Betacam SP machines, one a recorder/player,
the other a player with dynamic tracking.  We also want to import material
(either single frames or animations) from other machines (many different
kinds - Silcon Graphics, VAXen, Macs etc) on the network.

We have demo'ed many systems, but our current favourite is a Mac based
system from Avid.  We were allowed to use one of these for the day last week
and found it very easy to use in all respects.  The results were great too.

Does anyone out there have any opinion about these Avid systems (or any of the
others) or any info we should know?

-------------------------------------        Richard Francis
Internet: rfrancis@estec.estec.esa.nl        European Space Research and
Bitnet  : rfrancis@estec.bitnet                Technology Centre (ESTEC)
SPAN    : ESTERS::FRANCIS
smail   : C R Francis, OEE/OWP, ESTEC, Keplerlaan 1, 2200AG NOORDWIJK NL
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: SLV-R5
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:52:43 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <BxyzBH.J2q@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman) writes:

>The SLV-R5, like most modern VCR's, has only one linear audio track.

This is unfortunate, because I have an application that requires stereo
linear audio tracks. Does anyone know of a VCR with the kind of features
that the SLV-R5 has that has stereo linear audio tracks (noise reduction
on the linear audio tracks would be a great plus, too). Thanks.

Bill Alves
Newsgroups: rec.video.production