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From: schebel8133@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Ninth Configuration
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:28:28 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Question-
      Does anyone consider William Peter Blatty's The Ninth Configuration
a cult flick? Is there a comprehensive list of what is considered cult, and
what is not?

        Borgus of Moinedess II
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Name that Peter Falk movie (second try)
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:16:47 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

edm@gocart.twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) writes:

> >>>>> On 25 Jan 93 18:38:09 GMT, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) sai
> GB> Nntp-Posting-Host: hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu
> 
> GB> In article <C1F05s.8su@sci.kun.nl>, grimbergen@macpost.kun.nl writes:
>  
> > This question may not have reached the right people (I recently changed som
> > distribution options), so here it is again. Last week I ended up in a "name
> > that Peter Falk movie"-competition after a discussion on "The Princess Brid
> > I lost and one of the reasons was that I couldn't remember a movie in which
> > is invited (as Lt. Columbo), together with a bunch of other famous book-TV-
> > detectives to a castle or mansion. 
> 
> GB> Easy one; it's a very, very funny movie called _Murder By Death_.
> 
> "Well, what would anyone want to do with a dead, naked body?"
>  "Oh, well, whisper, whisper, whisper..."
> "Oh, that's tackey."
> 
> :)
> 
> --
> Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
> edm@twisto.compaq.com                                   _-\_<,
> "If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)

Anyone else remember "Murder can Kill You?" Same general plot, but it 
dealt with tv detectives.

Dascoser
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sdavido@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Re: Name that Peter Falk movie (second try)
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:03:31 GMT

In article <C1F05s.8su@sci.kun.nl>, grimbergen@macpost.kun.nl writes:
>  This question may not have reached the right people (I recently changed some
>  distribution options), so here it is again. Last week I ended up in a "name 
> that Peter Falk movie"-competition after a discussion on "The Princess Bride".
> I lost and one of the reasons was that I couldn't remember a movie in which he
>  is invited (as Lt. Columbo), together with a bunch of other famous book-TV-
> detectives to a castle or mansion. I remember Peter Sellers playing inspector
>  Clouseau, and a Miss Marple (not played by Margaret Rutherford) and a Hercule
>  Poirot (not played by Peter Ustinov). Maybe there was also a Philip Marlowe
>  and (this may be wishful thinking) the host of the party might be Christopher
>  Lee. Of course a murder is comitted and all detectives have different theories
> about the murderer. Can anyone tell me the title of this movie??
> 
> Reijer Grimbergen
>  

Sorry to let you down, but your remembery is way off. 
The movie is "Murder by Death," and Falk plays Sam Diamond, a Sam Spade parody.
Peter Sellers plays a Charlie Chan parody, James Coco the Poirot parody, and
the host was played by Truman Capote. And David Niven played a Nick Charles
parody. A GREAT film. 
 
-Solomon

 

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: BLADE RUNNER
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:16:10 GMT

ANDREW@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (WEISS,PATRICK ALAN) writes:
>-Is Deckard a REPLICANT ????
>-Are the red eyes a symbol for a Replicant ???
>-How long will he live ?????

These questions are addressed (pretty much) in Murray Chapman's BR FAQ, 
posted monthly to this group. Have a read of it and then see if you still 
have problems.

-- 
Internet: pete@extro.su.oz.au          |         Accept Everything.            |
UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!munnari!extro!pete |         Reject Nothing.               |
Newsgroups: alt.znet.pc
Subject: Z*NET Atari Issue 9302
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 14:40:50 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET International News Gateway in New Zealand

Issue 9302 was posted in 3 parts today to this news group.
 
 A belated happy new year chaps


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From: kronos@zooid.guild.org (Kronos)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Books
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:13:03 GMT

From: gunawara@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Asela Gunawardana)
>Could somone email me the FAQ sheet?
>
>Also could anyone reccomend a book that explains how the 'Two Handed Pass'
>is done?
>
>Also, a book, on forcing cards??
>
>THanx,
 
 
Well... as everyone said... The Royal Road to card magic IS good. But there is
another book out there that goes into more detail with a lot more passes as
well.. Its called Expert Card Technique. Granted... it is a hard book to
follow from, but it gets easier with time. BUt... I belive I can go one better
than everyone else on forcing methoods ans such. I have a booklet by Annemann
called "202 Methods of Forcing" Which only cost 7.50 (Canadian). I sui]ggest
looking for it because it isq invaluable after a soectator or two discovers
how you are forcing the cards... and it gives variety as well. If you can't
find (qif you want it) leave me i]a message with your name and address and I
will mail you down a copy.  
 
 
Kronos
From: st922964@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: good/big catalog
Date: 29 Jan 93 04:10:57 GMT
Reply-To: st922964@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University


    In my opinion, Hank Lee's Magic Factory in Boston offers the best
catalog - it is thick, chock full of good deals, and does what no other
magic catalog I've ever seen do - offers fun to read descriptions.  I mean
even if you know you're not going to buy anything from the catalog, it is
sometimes just fun to sit down and read what Hank Lee has to say - he really
has a unique style of describing his effects which makes the catalogee
very entertaining.
From: Bidlackhw@falcon.usafa.af.mil (Harold W. Bidlack)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Penn and Teller BBS (repost)
Summary: What am I doing wrong with the BBS?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:23:50 GMT
Organization: United States Air Force Academy

This is a repost, as I found out that my original post went out with the 
local alt.* groups turned off!

I have both the P&T books, and in each it describes how to contact their 
BBS, and what password to use.  I have tried and failed.  Is there something 
that I need to do, or is this part of a larger joke?  Thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: ron@makedust.uswest.com (Ron Schweikert)
Subject: Help on unknown pass reference
Originator: ron@makedust
Organization: U S WEST Communications -- Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:03:38 GMT

Could someone please send a reference for the "Ham Ping Chien" (sp.,
sorry I should have written correct spelling down) coin pass, or 
something that accomplishes the same effect?  It's referred to
in a coins-across routine in "The Magic of Michael Ammar".  (I hate it
when they do that! At least now I have a good reference for 
the Hamman count etc. via "Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety.")
Any favorite coin passes that I could focus on?  References through
Bobo's would be fine as I have that.  Also looking for close-up
move where magician takes signed card back from audience member and
seems to slip it face down in the middle of the deck (it appears stuck
halfway down the deck, jogged out half way), pushes it into the deck,
but then after riffling the deck the signed card appears on top (or
he can vanish it).  I've been playing with two moves that might
accomplish the effect (palm covering forced jog) but I'd like some
other ideas.

Follow up via posting please.  (*If it is a reference*.  If you have
the moves or suggestions, you can *try* via mail, but our mail from the
outside world hasn't been working for days [btw: still nothing Bruce,
but thanks for your efforts! I'm still beating up on them to get it
fixed!]).

Thanks in advance,
Ron
From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: You prefer white or black magic?
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:46:47 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <JJAS.93Jan23153826@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu> jjas@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (Jason Stephenson) writes:
>Personally and professionally I feel that coloring magic black or
>white bears no relevance to actual philosophical and mystical
>practice.  Classifying magic as "Black" or "White" is the stuff of
>fairy tales and religious superstition.  (My 1/50 of a dollar. B-D)

  Not only that, but it is disconcerting to see hearts and diamonds
printed in black ink on the cards.  (It's even worse if they are
printed in white ink!)  Jacks, Queens and Kings look bad if 
printed in black and white.  So in addition to philosophy and
mysticism, one also has to consider human factors.

--henry schaffer
From: st922964@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Gemini Count! Wowowowow!
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:34:02 GMT
Reply-To: st922964@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Hey - how do you guys quote the messages?  That's pretty neat... anyway
this is in reply to Thorin's message - he said "Unfortunately I sometimes
get better reaction from the tricks that pretty much work themselves.
... if it works itself, they seem to have a greater respect for you."
This can sometimes be the case, but I think the tricks that get the most
reaction and are indeed the best 'card tricks' are the ones that combine
sleight of hand and self-working parts.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:43:57 EST
From: Sleight of Hans <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Faro Shuffle??!?

In article <1993Jan23.210010.23618@nmsu.edu>, tnielson@kirk (THORIN NIELSON)
says:
>
>Question:
>
>I've seen a lot of literature, routines, etc. having to do with the Faro
>shuffle (from Ed Marlo, Brother Hamman). And I have begun to learn how to
>do the shuffle. But I must admit that I'm missing some important skill as
>I can't do very many perfectly, (problems cutting, sticky cards, problems
>abound).

Welcome to what *I* consider to be the hardest shuffle in sleight-of-hand
magic.  It is exactly because of the fact that you need to have a near
perfect deck of cards that few people learn the faro.  It's a neat shuffle,
but I almost never use routines with it because of this exact problem.

>
>I want to know,
>
>IS IT WORTH THE TROUBLE???

For an understanding of all aspects of the art?  Yes.
For use in routines and professional work?  Probably not.

>
>Do any of you have any advice as to how I might go about mastering this
>shuffle?  Do any of you make Faro routines a big part of your act?  Are
>these tricks so effective that it would warrant my exploration into the
>Faro phenomena?

Most of the routines that I use a faro for do not require a perfect
faro shuffle.  I do a couple of variations on the Oil/Water deck where
you split the deck into black and red piles, (faro) shuffle them together,
cut the deck, and the cards are all back in order again.  John Bannon has
a decent routine in his SMIKE AND MIRRORS book that uses this principle
and a faro that doesn't have to be perfect.

I like John's concept of useing a side-jogged faro and a pressure spread
to show only one color of card in the deck.  Square it up, give it a shake,
and you've got both colors mixed through the deck.  Check it out if you
want to use a faro.

I learned to faro on an 8 hour bus trip.  If you've got that amount of time
to practice just to get the basic action down, go for it.  If not, spend
your time practicing more essential sleights like side steals and such.  :-)

Just my $0.02 worth.

>
>Thorin Nielson -
>
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|   | Hans C. Masing          "By all means marry: If you get a good    |   |
| O | HCM100 @ PSUVM.psu.edu   wife, you'll become happy; if you get    | O |
|   | HCM100 @ CBA1.psu.edu    a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." |   |
| O | Penn State MIS Dept.                           - Socrates         | O |
|   |                                                                   |   |
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:54:01 EST
From: Sleight of Hans <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: re: Where to buy Genesis

In article <1993Jan22.172522.5163@memstvx1.memst.edu>, gouldh@memstvx1.memst.edu
says:
>
>Genesis is by Jay Scott Berry
>

Would someone please post a description of this effect?
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|   | Hans C. Masing          "By all means marry: If you get a good    |   |
| O | HCM100 @ PSUVM.psu.edu   wife, you'll become happy; if you get    | O |
|   | HCM100 @ CBA1.psu.edu    a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." |   |
| O | Penn State MIS Dept.                           - Socrates         | O |
|   |                                                                   |   |
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: presto@bach.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Subject: Re: Where to buy Genesis
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:27:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.172522.5163@memstvx1.memst.edu> gouldh@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>Genesis is by Jay Scott Berry his address is
>
>                            Celestial Sorcery Inc.
>                            11333 Moorpark
>                               Suite 1000
>                            Studio City, CA  91602

  Did he move AGAIN? I first found out about Jay Scott Berry during my Sophmore-
Junior years. I think it was around last spring that he moved to CA. Now he
seems to have moved again. The last I knew, his adress was 6040 Verner Ave.
Sacremento, CA. 95841. That was as of an order received 3 months ago. Hmm...
Does anyone know what the story is? I can't blame a guy for moving, but I never
seem to find out until I try to place an order. I usually call first to double
check the adress (I wouldn't have thought that absolutely necessary, but I 
guess it's been a good idea). Oh well, thanks for the info.

>
>I have used the effect and the two major problems are.
>      1. the angles for the spectators are very critical.  You
>         absolutely can not do it surrounded
>      2. Any backlighting is a instant killer of the effect.
>
>						Herb Gould
>                                                GouldH@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU

  I personally am growing fonder of I. T. techniques. The floating bill does
not seem to suit my style very well, but I thought the gimmick was very 
clever and the ideas in the booklet also innovative. For anyone who doesn't
know, the genesis gimmick allows you to float a dollar bill from several
different positions, but never far from your hand - although the bill looks
like it is under its own power, animated. You can also do some interesting
things with a candle flame. Lastly, if you can do a downs palm, you can then
hand out the bill for inspection. Hope this helps.
-Jason
-- 
| presto@brahms.udel.edu       | A senior E.E. at the U of D with a side order
| presto@freezer.cns.udel.edu  | of stage and close-up magic. The views
| nocks@snow-white.ee.udel.edu | expressed are exclusively my own (etc).
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: j3david@student.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Subject: ALT.HOME.DECOR
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:20:54 GMT

Scott A. Steinbrink writes:
 
>If you had a choice, would you prefer black or white magic?
 
>Why?
 
 
>I'd pick white so I can help God spread some goodness all around the 
earth.
 
>- Scotty
 
>--
>Scott Allen Steinbrink
 
Personally, I think a nice, rich 'marine blue' would match the rug and
drapes, yet wouldn't conflict with the overall tone of the decor.
On the other hand, I think that 'white' is a little too jujune...
 
Is it me, or have these people entered the incorrect realm...
 
James 'Once Again Playing the Naughty Watchdog' David - London, Ontario, 
CDA

j3david@student.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith)
Subject: Tannen's toll-free number
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:13:02 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ


I think that I may have mis-posted Tannen's toll-free number
recently.  If so, my apologies (especially to the people who
own the number that I posted).

The proper number is 1-800-72-MAGIC.

Tom Smith.
tom@ulysses.att.com
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From: Dave-M@cup.portal.com (David Russell Mottern)
Newsgroups: alt.magic,alt.magick
Subject: Re: You prefer white or black magic?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:21:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <JJAS.93Jan23153826@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu>

Do you guys mind confining this stuff to alt.magicK (NOTE THE K),
and not posting it to alt.magic (WITHOUT THE K).
Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: tnielson@mccoy (THORIN NIELSON)
Subject: Gemini Count! Wowowowow!
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:21:42 GMT



I'm learning everything I can get my hands on that utilizes the Gemini  
Count. Most Specifically;

	The Twins
	Double Pinochle
	The Magic Cards ... all from Bro. Hamman.

Does anybody have any other good routines? Maybe one they invented? I've  
found that this count is VERY successful.

Thorin Nielson --
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: bhayes@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Barry Hayes)
Subject: Re: Gemini count Double Pinochle
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:12:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.123217.5225@memstvx1.memst.edu> gouldh@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>[...] could you provide the patter I can figure out the moves.
>
>      Herb Gould.

What a great idea!  This way we can alk-tay in ode-cay, spreading
secrets to people who know magic and giving almost no clues to the
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Help on unknown pass reference
Supersedes: <93024.163512HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:36:27 EST
From: Sleight of Hans <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>

The "Han Ping Chien" move is a switch as the coins are dropped to the table.
Ever since I learned the Gallo Pitch (Encore 3), I've subbed it in for
routines that call for Han Ping Chien.  Try it, you'll lke it.

| O |                                                                   | O |
|   | Hans C. Masing          "By all means marry: If you get a good    |   |
| O | HCM100 @ PSUVM.psu.edu   wife, you'll become happy; if you get    | O |
|   | HCM100 @ CBA1.psu.edu    a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." |   |
| O | Penn State MIS Dept.                           - Socrates         | O |
|   |                                                                   |   |
Newsgroups: alt.magic,alt.magick
From: drake+@cs.cmu.edu (Drake)
Subject: Re: You prefer white or black magic?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:42:38 GMT

derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink) writes:

>If you had a choice, would you prefer black or white magic?

Do you imply that I don't have a choice?  (In which case I disagree with
the premise.)

Define your terms, and maybe I can answer your question.  What IS black
magic?  What is white magic?

I choose black, by my own definitions.

>Why?

Because most white magicians say things like this:

>I'd pick white so I can help God spread some goodness all around the earth.

which I think is kinda silly.  IMAO.

-- 
Love and Laughter,             | NOTE: Private mail must go explicitly
Xeper and Remanifest,          | to drake@seismo.soar.cs.cmu.edu
                       DRAKE   | or it'll bounce back to you...
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:31:04 EST
From: Sleight of Hans <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.magic,alt.magick
Subject: Re: You prefer white or black magic?

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Keep this in alt.MAGICK <-------------- (K) NOTE IT!

Cross posting to inappropriate groups like alt.MAGIC (IE - Card tricks,
for the bizzilionth time) goes against proper Nettiquette.  I don't talk about
sleight of hand in your group, please don't talk about magick in mine.

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|   | Hans C. Masing          "By all means marry: If you get a good    |   |
| O | HCM100 @ PSUVM.psu.edu   wife, you'll become happy; if you get    | O |
|   | HCM100 @ CBA1.psu.edu    a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." |   |
| O | Penn State MIS Dept.                           - Socrates         | O |
|   |                                                                   |   |
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: batten@kodak.kodak.com (James x42773/RDCS/5-15-KO)
Subject: mirrors
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:52:04 GMT



   There's been a bit of discussion on the net recently about the use of mirrors
for practice. I have to admit that I spend a fair amount of time doing just that
but have also found it to cripple me a bit if I do it to much. The problem I
have is that I get so used to seeing myself doing it that suddenly something
is missing when I'm trying to perform it.

   I've found it much better to break an effect down into it's individual
slights. I then start with the first slight and do it a few times in the mirror.
After I have identified my weakness with it I practice away from the mirror
but keeping in mind what I have to do to cover any flaws. After a few hours,
or even days I'll go back to the mirror to check on my progress. Once I am
comfortable with each slight then I start putting them all together, first 
infront of the mirror, but always with most of the time away from it.

   I won't perform the effect until it looks good in the mirror, but I don't 
want to get in the habit of seeing my self do it.       

   A good learning aid to compliment this (and I've just started using it)
is a video camera. Some might argue that if you don't see your reflection 
while practicing you won't know how well you are improving (if that's what
you are doing). With the camera you don't see yourself doing it, but you can 
review any time you want. Just be ready to cringe....


jus' my 2 cents worth.

- jim
From: jhines@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Joseph Hines)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Hi
Summary: Hi guys
Keywords: new magic fun
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:27:42 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

hi there all  guys and gals
I am new to news but old to magic.

What kind of magic does everyone like???

Joseph "The Mystifier" Hines