HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stafford@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bush
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:59:42 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System


	OK, it has nothing to do with motorcycles, but last night
	I got a very strange research call (and follow up this pm
	to verify)

	Questions?  Do you own a VCR?  What movies have you rented
	this week?  Do you know about Truman?  Is Bush or Clinton
	more like Truman?  Do you smoke a pipe?

	So, I predict some of these idiots will take up smoking
	a pipe.  There will be a new made-for-cassette movie
	which documents Truman's years, equating it with (clibush).

you heard it here first.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Man, that was FUN!
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:51:25 GMT

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>Bwaha

Is this a laugh or are you imitating a "sheep looking scared?" (tm)
 (llama??) ;-)

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Warning on new BMW luggage...
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:46:36 GMT

In article <JET.92Sep3113819@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov
(J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>I think the real problem is that the bags are *WIDE*.

What about your riding style?  If you sit straight up
and lean the bike, instead of leaning your body
towards the inside of the turn so the bike can
stay more upright, you'll run out of ground clearance
long before Phil and Hesh do with or without the
bags.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:17:13 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]Girlfriend: Mopeds are cheaper and some go 60 MPH

bullshit. a brand new honda elite 50 goes for $800 some bucks and
only does 40 mph downhill running from a tornado. you can pick up
a really decent 350-550 bike for $500 that'll keep up with the
traffic no problem. let's not even discuss the instability of the
damn mopeds on the road.

]Girlfriend: You can take back-roads

Friend: Uptight Bitch (tm)...

]Oh, and by the way. Neither of them has ridden a motorcycle before.

MSF is a must...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 14 Sep 1992 14:55:14 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignitions
Distribution: na

  I don't know about the '73 RD350, but I'm told DYNA makes electronic
Ignitions that will work on my 76 KZ900.  Any verification out there on this
and/or the Yamaha?
  Also, I want to re-jet the Mikuni's for an (unknown) 4-->1 exhaust that the
previous owner added.  How do I tell what this unmarked exhaust is and does
DYNA have a jet set for my Mikuni (38 mm)?

  Jeff Andle  76 KZ 900
  Choose the lesser of 200 Million evils - Write-in yourself for president!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boo@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Foley)
Subject: Kawi EX500 with a stuck shifter.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:23:28 GMT

I did it. I finally bought a bike which'll be in my possession, and legally on
the road at the same time.  though I've been riding for over a year, this
combination has never existed. 

Anyways, It's an 89 EX 500, and I got it really cheap, but with a catch, of
course:

the shifter, at the point where the splined shaft goes into the engine through a
small cover, won't budge.

my thoughts:

there's the region inside this cover which gets oil and is sealed, but you can
access it without cracking the big bottom end case.  This is where the shifting
sequence comes from, where repeated motion from your foot becomes different gear
positions inside the engine. anyways, as soon as I figure this out, I'll be
riding.

easy case scenario:
the splined shaft is just stuck, or seized.

harder case scenario:
something behind this cover is messed up, but I can still fix it without
pulling/cracking the engine.

still harder:
there's some familiar problem with the EX500 tranny or shifter, that one of you
Wreck Dotters has experienced, in which case you'll (hopefully) say, "Oh, that
happened to my EX, too. you've gotta...."

worst case: I'm pretty sure the engine was worked on by a would be mechanic,
(kinda like me) who put the thing back together in such a way that it can't be
shifted.  So I open the transmission and a big pile of gears falls out.  


I know a lot of you have EXs. Any info you have would be appreciated. It's also
my first bike, so any good EX praise/stories/shop talk would be cool. 
I'm curious about top speed and wheelie potential.

also, If the worst case is true, I'll be needin' a shop manual.  I don't trust
Clymer publications as far as my nose.  If anyone has leads on Kawi shop manual,
I'll pay for faxing/ xerox fees and postage of the transmission section.


Kid Oreo
1966 Fender Jazzmaster
1943 Bridgeport
1985 Redline Freestyle BMX 

"closing in on my first bike (that I actually own)!!"

"Why should getting a bike be such an ordeal? They're dangerous and evil, yes?
Therefore I think its fair to expect Satan to just appear before me in a puff of
smoke and just give me an RZ with a cackle."

whoops, gotta come up with a new .sig!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: How long for Dod number?
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:43:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.151830.19736@bnr.ca> MBEAVING@BNR.CA writes:
>In article <BD.92Sep9090701@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>|> 
>|> How long does it take to get a DoD number once you've sent your
>|> request off to the KotL?
>
>Take a number and wait. bwah-ha-ha!
>
>I kill me! :-)

Oh yeah? And how long does that take? We could help if you're having
difficulties....

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Voters Guide (Part 1/2 -- State Assembly)
Summary: jerky knees, Paul?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:55:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.010217.5669@ttinews.tti.com> paulb@harley.tti.com
(Paul Blumstein) writes:
>The California Election is November 3rd.  The single best way that we
>can make sure that motorcyclist's interests are preserved is to
>make sure that our representatives are sensitive to our needs.


I really dislike single-issue voting of the sort Paul seems
to be advocating.  I'll second his recommendation that
we all vote, but please vote based on a full consideration
of the candidates' positions.

How cheaply will you sell your vote?
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NY Rte 17 sucks
Keywords: Really Rt 20
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:27:22 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <19986@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>There are LOTS of good rides in New York State however.  Try 9W up the 
>Hudson Valley or 145 up through the Catskills or Rt 28/30 up through the
>Adirondacks.  Lots of nice rides out in the Finger Lakes area also.

Unfortunately none of these roads goes near Binghamton, so they don't
seem to help the biker who first asked this question.  I've taken 
several roads through the Binghamton area and all were either superslabs
or worse.  There are some reasonably picturesque roads a little further
out from the city, but they're all slow and/or go in the wrong direction
for the Boston-Binghamton trip.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow)
Subject: Re: DoD Merchandise
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:20:46 GMT

In article <997@pico.OZ> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
>etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur) writes:
>: Arnie just posted about DoD zippo keyrings, but how about DoD zippo lighters
?
>: Now that would be cool....
>
> Alan
>
>   We had an issue of DoD Zippos last year - unfortunately I couldn't
>get the money to Arnie so I don't have one.
>
>We need to get about 50+ orders to do a (re)run - if there's a bit more
>lead time I'll have one.
>
>Arnie?
>
I'd like to wait 'til the DoD Key Fob project is finished.  We can then
see if the lighter project is worth resurrecting.

Arnie
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: I just turned 19k mi on Mavis! (Re: Kawi EX500 with a stuck shifter.)
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20342
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <1992Sep10.052328.4161@athena.mit.edu> boo@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Foley) writes:
>I did it. I finally bought a bike which'll be in my possession, and legally on
>the road at the same time.  though I've been riding for over a year, this
>combination has never existed. 
>Anyways, It's an 89 EX 500, and I got it really cheap, but with a catch, of
>course:

Cool bike.  I just turned over 19,000 accident free miles on mine, and
I got it new in January of '89.  Practically slept with it until the
snow melted.

She's all black with Kawasaki Green and polished aluminum wheels, 
Vance & Hines 2-into-1, and K&N/Dynojet kit with filters (Stage III).

>still harder:
>there's some familiar problem with the EX500 tranny or shifter, that one of you
>Wreck Dotters has experienced, in which case you'll (hopefully) say, "Oh, that
>happened to my EX, too. you've gotta...."

Wish I could say so...but I've never heard of this kind of problem.  I 
have the factory service manuals in my desk here, so let me know if you
need any info dug out of them.

>I know a lot of you have EXs. Any info you have would be appreciated. It's also
>my first bike, so any good EX praise/stories/shop talk would be cool. 
>I'm curious about top speed and wheelie potential.

I'm not a top speed kinda guy, but I've approached 130 on the interstate.
As far as wheelies, I can take it to third gear straight up.  But I'm a
130-lb, 22 year old white boy with a death wish.

I got my back tire to leave the ground when I hit second once...scared
me so bad I didn't try a multi-gear wheelie for at least a mile and a 
half.  This bike is great for wheelies because of its weight, but only
for a small rider.  If you want unconditional wheelies, ride a Vance
and Hines edition FZR 600.  Jeez!

>also, If the worst case is true, I'll be needin' a shop manual.  I don't trust
>Clymer publications as far as my nose.  If anyone has leads on Kawi shop manual
>I'll pay for faxing/ xerox fees and postage of the transmission section.

Your dealer will be able to get them for you.  What sucks is that you have
to buy the manual for the EX500 (GPZ500S) *and* the EN450 (454 LTD) because
the engine was taken from the 454 LTD.  For certain operations on the 
engine you have to refer to the 454's manual.

>Kid Oreo

Clint Flecken-stimpy
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What's a "stroker"
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:50:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Sep4.202816.8720@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:
>
>>OK, no funny business here, I really want to know. I have this t-shirt on today  
>>that says "Have you hugged your stroker today?" (from S&S cycles) and people  
>>are asking me what a stroker is and I'm not quite sure.
>
>Well, if Ed's going to play comic this time, I guess I have to play
>straight man.
>
>It's an engine that has had it's size increased by increasing the stroke
>of the crankshaft. You can also boost engine displacement by increasing
>the cylinder bore diameter. But I've never heard of that being called a
>"borer". :-)
>
>The term "stroker" isn't Harley specific, though it does seem to be a
>popular modification.
>-- 
>Blaine Gardner

This seems to be another case of Britain and America being divided by a common
language,...

over here "stroker" is shorthand for 2 -stroke.

__
Raybo		DoD#1058		XBR500

"If you ever go to Whitley Bay,
Take the A 10 58, goes all the way."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer)
Subject: Re: Steamboat Springs
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:29:10 GMT
Organization: HP Design Technology Center, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Sep13.205433.2494@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>Any other "westerners" headed to Steamboat besides me? I'll be headed
>out on the 18th and back on the 21st.

  I'll be there.  I'm heading out tomorrow evening with 3 other friends
and a total of 4 racebikes.  We'll be gittin' to The West Condos on Thurs.
night (the ones in the middle of the roadrace track) and starting to do
jetting changes on Friday.  

  -Jim
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: My first ABATE Toy Ride! (Squid rides with Harleys)
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:40:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20192
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

This weekend I went on my first ABATE Toy Ride for ABATE of North Dakota.
We ride toys from my home town of Mandan, across the river and up to the
state capitol in Bismarck (about a 5 mile ride).  This was the tenth
annual ride, as part of our Folkfest festivities in the area.

I ride a very loud, very GREEN Kawasaki EX500, and my friend rides a 
white and purple Hurricane.  So you can probably imagine how we fit in 
with the 250 or so Harley Davidsons, etc. that went on the ride.  At
first, we were *very* apprehensive.  But as we walked around the lot,
big guys in leather were telling us how glad they were that we showed
up.  Our apprehension lasted all of about a minute and a half.

So we were up and running.  The row of cycles went FOREVER, each with
a toy strapped on.  We donate the toys to the Salvation Army at the 
end of the ride.  And it was a blast getting looks from the spectators,
who were very shocked to see 'bratbikes' in the middle of the line!

Next year we hope to have many more sportbikers in the ride, as well
as in ABATE itself.  Unfortunately, it took me this long to realize
that my perception of their perception of us isn't necessarily what
I thought.

I guess it goes to show that after stripping all the chrome and/or
plastic away, we all ride on two wheels.

Clint
(How do I join the AMA?)
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150  
 "There are those who ride motorcycles, and then there are Motorcyclists."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette)
Subject: Re: BMW Wobbles
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:08:19 GMT
X-Posted-From: fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep9.223834.1179@msus1.msus.edu> pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.213434.29063@ctr.columbia.edu>, barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep5.145129.1136@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>>>
>>> My BMW ('81 R100RS) wobbles in moderately hard turns....
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>> 
>> Also, an over-tightened, unevenly worn chain will cause the swing arm
>> to flex, thereby making the bike wobble.  Since yours is not doing
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> this on a straight(?), you probably don't have that problem.  A new
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> set of balanced, aligned, and properly inflated tires will make all
>> the difference in the world.
>> 
>> Barry B.                      
>
>I'm glad you got that possibility ruled out, aren't you, John?
>
>
First of all jerk-off, he did not explain the wobble very clearly except that
it does occur in turns.  Secondly, if the chain is causing -some- flex,
it may not be noticeable at lower speeds; but it may cause loss
of control if it resonates at a higher speed.  I experienced this on a GSXR
750.  The bike wobbled slightly in hard turns; steady as a rock on the 
straights.  At about 130 mph, the bike began to wobble violently.  I was
lucky to just hang on until it settled back down.  The chain was the cause.
So you just go ride your bike with the same level of intelligence you
portray in your witty little post... that is, if you even have a bike.

Barry B.
Ride fast, Ride hard, Stay young!
(except for mental midgets, they should stay home)
From: bruce@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: UK: BMW Question ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:45:43 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England


I am seriously thinking of buying an R80. Could someone
please supply me with some info on where and how to get
this cheaper BMW insurance that keeps cropping up in 
Motorcycle news and other mags ?

And by the way, why hasn't 'Highway to Hell' (AC/DC) been 
nominated for the official DoD anthem ?(Come to think of
it how did Bonn Scott know about the M25 before he died ?)

Thanks
Bruce Cass  DoD #0669

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
'Is all that we see or seen but a dream within a dream' Propaganda
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:05:36 GMT

In article <192lb7INN64e@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 25821@castle.ed.ac.uk, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>>In article <1564@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>>>cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>>
>>>> A natural experiment here is ski-bikes which steer by means of a front
>>>> ski. No rotating wheel, and cornering behaviour just like a bicycle.
>>
>>>But are they stable (they remain upright when moving at speed with
>>>no rider)? And are you claiming that they countersteer?
>>
>>Not only do I claim it, but someone who's tried it reported that they
>>did, here on rec.moto, some weeks ago.
>
>Ski blades deform the surface of the snow.  When banked over, they are
>travelling on their own little self-generated positive camber.

As stated in the countersteering thread earlier in the year,
we're talking about what initiates a turn not what does the turning.
Skaters, skiers, waterskiers, motorcyclists (excluding dirt-trackers)
and even runners (to some extent) need to lean to turn. The camber thing
describes how the turn happens once the ski bike is leaned over. If you
want to lean a ski bike, waterski bike or two-wheeled bike without shifting
your weight, you have to countersteer. The fact that ski bikes turn when
leaned instead of falling over implies that the system is stable, in
the upright sense. Again, wheels are unnecessary to have a stable
"single-track" vehicle.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Most Favorite Road Sign
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:07:06 GMT
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <eu1ZqB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>One of my favourite signs is in Oregon, although I can't understand why 
>they put it up. It just says "Boring Oregon". :-)


	I saw this one this summer too. The actual sign said

			"        Boring      "
			"      Oregon City   "
			"      Next Exit     "

	I believe it was two different places, "Boring" and "Oregon City"

	Almost made me fall of my bike I was laughing so hard...
-------
Bored of my old .sig and lacking enough bikes to make an impressive list...
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#0516      |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- '92 Perception Corisca|    NYC, NY.|
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: TEST/IGNORE
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:32:12 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Sep4.183203.25410@webo.dg.com>, x1sdup@esparc19.webo.dg.com
(Stephen Dupre) writes: 
> Just adjusting some environment variables...

dear stephen,

perhaps you should be aware of some other newsgroups, where the
posting of tests does nt lead laz to post about helmet laws.
some of these groups are: ba.test, news.test, us.test.  

oh, i see you were for data general.... never mind.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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