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From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:01:41 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Nov13.231131.25454@cbnews.cb.att.com> brian.c.bucknor,
bucknor@cbnews.cb.att.com writes:
>Daydream Nation is in fact the BEST SY album (I'm sure someone will
>want to argue that). It's the best because I see it as the middle
>part of the band's odyssey from their "noise" days to their more
>"commercial" sound.

Well, precisely. But your assumption is that the odyssey was worthwhile!
What made Sonic Youth so great was how they managed to merge wild
exploration of the noise potential of guitars and amps with tight,
rational control of the results. Too many bands to count have recorded
frenzied jams with all kinds of guitar noise, but it's generally lacking
in purpose. Sonic Youth at their best produced amazing sounds ("Society
Is a Hole", "Bad Mood", "Expressway To Yr. Skull") and you could tell
that they were in careful control of what they were doing and the effect
it would generate, which made it musically a lot more worthwhile.
Nowadays Sonic Youth are more or less indistinguishable from any number
of other indie bands who produce grungy riffs, ironic pop-culture-laden
lyrics and some feedback as frosting. Yawn. And Kim Gordon can't sing
worth shit anymore, either.

At least there are still bands who are doing genuinely new and
interesting things with guitar sounds; My Bloody Valentine leap
immediately to mind.

--Jens Alfke

(All IMHO, of course...)
From: nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Identify Smiths' song
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:06:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


  the song you want is "how soon is now" you can find it on hatful of hallow
and on the us release of "meat is murder" (it's not on the uk release)
  this is the song that goes "I am the son and the heir of a shyness
that is criminally vulgar. I am the son of nothing in particular"   
  it's a great song..you should have no problem finding it.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jflee@hubcap.clemson.edu (finley lee)
Subject: Re: Sugar/Throwing Muses/Boo Radleys Concert, Seattle -- Comments
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:33:15 GMT


Sugar's bass player is named David Barbe.  He used to be in a band
called Mercyland.  From what I understands, he has been playing around
in the Athens music scene for the last ten years or so.

In addition to being an excellent musician, he is also a good producer.
He produced a two song seven inch for my band and we are nothing but
pleased with it.  I understand he has a lot of recording projects in the
works for the future - good luck to him.

- Finley
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From: nordic@cats.ucsc.edu (Paul David Cattrone)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Shakespeare's Sister
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:53:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Does anyone out there have any info on if Shakespeare's Sister will be 
touring the US anytime soon (or later)?  Also, if you seen the video
for I Don't Care, the song is a little different than the one on the
album.  Where is this version from?  Is it available?

Paul Cattrone
nordic@cats.ucsc.edu


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Info wanted THE DICKIES
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:06:55 GMT

The Dickies was one of the bands to emerge from the LA punk scene back in 76-77.
Since they were not very controversial, just wacky, a major label like A&M dared
to sign them. Their two first albums, 'The Incredible Shrinking Dickies' and 'Dawn
Of The Dickies', are classic, you should get them right away. They also released
loads of singles in coloured vinyl at that time, for example they did covers of
TV themes like 'Gigantor' and 'The Tra La La Song (Banana Splits)'

Then there was silence for some years, due to one of the band members committing
suicide. The come back album 'Stukas Over Disneyland' was OK, but had lost some
intensity, instead leaning more towards pure pop. This trend was even more blatant
on the 'Second Coming' album, so I've kind of lost interest in them now. But I'll
always remember them for their mountain moving versions of 'Paranoid', 'Nights In
White Satin', and Led Zep's 'Communication Breakdown'

Almost forgot, there's also a cassette out on ROIR Records called 'We Are Not The
World', which contain early demos and live outtakes. It may be hard to find, but is 
definitly worth the effort. This word of wisdom was uttered by frontman Leonard
Graves Phillips at the end of the tape: "Absolutely none of the proceeds from this
concert will go to Ethiopia. It will go to the band, to buy candy bars for."

-- 
>>>>-----------------Marten Sahlen  etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se-----------------<<<<
>>>-----Ellemtel Telecom Systems Lab, Box 1505, S-125 25 Alvsjo, Sweden------<<<
>>--------------------"An apple a day keeps the doctor away-------------------<<
>--------an orgasm a day keeps the psychiatrist away" - Dusan Makavejev--------<
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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Leonard Cohen
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:24:12 GMT

Does anyone know anything about a Leonard Cohen CD which is 
supposed to come out this tuesday?  Does it have anything to
do with the "I'm Your Fan" collection of his songs?

Ed.
From: 9227792@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Mr.Bungle.
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:50:19 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

  
 Are there any Mr.Bungle fans out there,
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 If so Mail me at 9227792@ul.ie.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner)
Subject: Re: Suede
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:22:21 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

  they have two singles out..
1) the drowners (with "to the birds" "my insatiable one" as b sides)
2) metal mickey (with "where pigs don't fly" "he's dead" b sides)
  think they will have an album out soon..I got a bootleg copy of the reading concert and they had alot of songs on there that aren't on the singles.
     where did you hear them if you don't have the singles? I haven't
heard them on the radio at all.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dbyrne@unix1.tcd.ie (Alien J)
Subject: Re: Fatima Mansions
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:27:46 GMT

In <BxxnMn.6JD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake) writes:

>Glanced at the Poll Of Polls,

>Noticed that the Fatima Mansions recieved enough votes to get in, did they
>just put out a new album? saw 13. "Evil Man"-Fatima Mansions for best song and
>I know this is not off of Viva Dead Ponies.  Is this from a new single or album
  
 "Evil Man" IS a recent Fatima Mansions single and is also on their
latest album, "Valhalla Avenue", which is quite good, especially songs
like "1000%", "Be Dead" and "Evil Man", which was the first single off
the album. It's released on Radioactive Records (at least in this part
of the world) which is a branch of Kitchenware, methinks.(What?)

I saw The Fatima Mansions play live last month and they were just
unnatural. They were extremely loud live, and they managed to play
an enormous amount of songs into a relatively short amount of time.
(I think they played for an hour and a quarter.)

I hope I've been of some help.
See ya......
From: victor@canrem.com (Victor Kamutzki - user account)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ministry Tour?
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:46:03 GMT
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) writes:

>As much as it pains me to ask such a moronic question here, I was wondering
>if anybody knows if and when Ministry will be hitting Montreal on their 
>current tour.

Not sure about Montreal, but I have tickets to the Dec. 1 show in
Toronto w/Helmet and Sepultura.  Should be an okay show.  :-)

Victor
From: dholdswo@adelphi.ua.oz.au (Dave Holdsworth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies YES - Breeders NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:37:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Adelaide, South Australia
Reply-To: dholdswo@adelphi.ua.oz.au (Dave Holdsworth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: adelphi.itd.adelaide.edu.au

A. pash wrote"

>     I've been a big Pixies fan for a long time now and love all their
>stuff and I agree that The Breeders aren't as good as the Pixies but
>they're still an incredible band. I suggest that you sit down and take
>a close listen to _Pod_ . If you really listen to it and don't just put
>it on while you're doing something else I think you'll change you're mind
>and if not then I guess that's you're choice.

What hasn't been mentioned in this debate is that the only reason Kim did the
Breeders stuff is because Black Francis won't let her write much Pixies stuff.
When you consider that Kim's "Gigantic" is one of the Pixies best (well IMO
anyway) you wonder if Black Francis has got some sort of ego problem ......


--
*************************************************************************

     Dave Holdsworth. email: dholdswo@physics.adelaide.edu.au
       Dept. Physics & Math Physics, University of Adelaide
From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the latest SUGAR
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:58:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <5791@sumax.seattleu.edu> kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess) writes:
>Someone loaned me a copy of Copper Blue this weekend and I've really been
>getting into it -- I'm going to see them (with Throwing Muses) tomorrow,
>too.  It's a good album; it really works (although the poppy "If I Can't

As one further note, Sugar has finished recording their next album,
_Beaster_, and it should be out sometime in April.

greg
From: pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Pablo Kang)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 95 Jesus & Mary Chain Mailing List
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:07:37 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov17.020022.13127@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21329KS@MSU writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>                 [(someone @psuvm.psu.edu writes)
>[Does anyone happen to know the mailing list of Jesus and Mary Chain.??
>[If not, then I am looking for people to start a new one...
>[                   Thanks a Lot ....
>
>     I don't know of one. But I will start one.
>     Anyone interested send me mail and I'll get the ball rolling.

  Tried sending this through mail but the address didn't work.
  Anyhow, I'd be interested in JaMC mailing list!!

  Sorry for wasting bandwidth. :-)

pablo
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
From: (becky)
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:04:58 -0600
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: world

In article <BxtEpt.LDy@news.ucs.mun.ca>, kforward@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Ken
Forward) wrote:
> 
> In article <sf1lsLm00iUxA5jvkT@andrew.cmu.edu> "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >>Gee, is it just me, or does Pearl Jam really suck as badly as I think
> >>they do?  It's like Pearl Jam decided to take mainstream 70s rock and
> >>put the Seattle label on it.
> >
> >Say what you like. I just wonder, if you can't get off on something as
> >beautiful as Pearl Jam, what can you get off on? 
> >
> 
> [ Can you say 'Rushfan(tm)' ?  :-) ]
> 
> Inadvertently or otherwise, the original post does seem a tad inflammatory.
> Having said that, I do agree completely with the original poster. A couple
> of questions therefore come to mind:
> 
> How many Pearl Jam fans like mainstream 70s rock ?  And of those, how many
> are under, say, 25, and didn't live through it the first time ?  :-)
> 
> Expecting flames in response to a serious inquiry,
> -- 
>   Ken Forward, Dept of Physics, Memorial University of Newfoundland
>    <kforward@crosby.physics.mun.ca> | <kforward@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
>    " I'll skank on your grave. " -Jeff to Akbar (Akbar to Jeff?)-

O.k. Ken here's a Pearl Jam fan who loves seventies rock.  I must admit
though that the stones did it all first, but what can compare to bands like
black sabbath and iron butterfly?  there's a great history in rock and roll
that is totally disreguarded or thought of as "shit" by people who think
that bands like Pearl Jam were the first to do what they've done.  give
credit where credit is due.  Pearl Jam is a very talented band, Eddie is
better looking then ozzy, but its been done before and will be done again
and you can't forget that. oh and rush is included in that category, i
suppose.  oh, so what if i'm under 25, i know good music when i here it.

"JESUS MADE ME SO, JESUS SAVE ME FROM, PITY, SYMPATHY, AND PEOPLE
DISCUSSING ME."
From: dt90jpb@brunel.ac.uk (Jonathon P Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:43:57 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


	      I went to see MBV on UK Rollercoaster
	      and they were superb!

	       Apparently they are building their own
              studio, in which they are going to make
	      the new album. I read in Melody Maker
	      that a new album is set for release in 
	      Nov/Dec , 1993 ! So like you said , don't
	      hold your breath!



	       Jonny.
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From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Soundgarden and all that
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Access Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:06:42 GMT

earlier..

>In reply to the most recent stab at Soundgarden...
>S.M Jones was telling us all that the Soundgarden troop would bow before the
>guitar mastery of Greg Ginn...I offer that no one in Soundgarden ever claimed
>to be any sort of guitar master..ever.

smell my hotcakes, and my sarcasm..

Actually...guitar heros are really nothing more than one trick ponies anyway
>The trick is to make music not just build a song around a solo...So masters
>like Satriani and Stu Hamm aren't really giving you any sort of music...
>just some sort of masturbatory solo..(though some of them of course are
>great to listen to)...But Soundgarden (or Soundgarbage as my roommate calls
>them) never tried to be guitar heros/"masters"...what they do is play that
>fat, chunky Black Sabbath sorta stuff..and they do it quite well...

but that guitarist slash looks so cool with his shirt off and his guitar
in its errect position!

>Later
>-justin

huh?  when later?


-- 
Stephen M. Jones (214)436-4622 
SysAdmin <-> Super Dimension Fortress PAU 
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org - "Put in a quarter and play road rally." - Descendents
From: cjones@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Morrissey on SNL
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:35:42 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Hey, did anyone out there catch last nights Saterday Night Live?  I was upset
to see how not into the songs Morrissey was.  I have seen him in concert in
LA and he has always been so into the music.  I was wondering if it was just
the crowd he was playing to or what.  I don't know...I was kind of dissapointed
in his performance.

                                                -C. Jones
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Negativland - casey's fax
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:32:44 GMT

Negativland appeared in Chicago last Saturday.  I then
promptly left town and have just returned.

Mark informed me that Casey Kasem had his fax number changed
almost immediately after _The Letter U and the Numeral 2" came
out.  He gave me the new fax number and the address, so it could
be posted to Internet.

IMPORTANT:  Mark does NOT want anyone sending any "fuck you" type
faxes or letters.  Please do not send anything which shows anger.
It will only hurt our cause of getting him to allow Island to return
The _Negativland U2_ copyright to Negativland.

Mark requests that the faxes and letters we send to Casey be polite,
and even say something such as, "I've been a fan of American Top 40
for years. ... I know you are a big proponent of freedom of speech.
... Please allow Negativland to recover the rights to their song and
live up to your own words (in an interview, reprinted in _TLUatN2_, Casey
said that he wouldn't care if _Negativland U2_ was returned to Negativland
and rereleased).

Anyway,  here is the info:

Fax:	(310) 840-4051

Address:	9450 Washington Blvd.
		Culver City, CA  90232

-- 
   "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
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   All opinions expressed are strictly my own, unless I stole them.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: cure mailing list
From: (becky)
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:55:54 -0600
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: world

In article <t_msowers-171192094538@129.46.172.53>, t_msowers@qualcomm.com
(MARTHA SOWERS) wrote:
> 
> Would someone e-mail me the address for the cure mailing list, also?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Martha 

might not be needing that after awhile.  i heard a rumor they're breaking
up, again.  isn't ol' rob getting enough publicity lately or what's the
deal here?

"JESUS MADE ME SO, JESUS SAVE ME FROM, PITY, SYMPATHY, AND PEOPLE
DISCUSSING ME."
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: help: American Marshmellow Overcoat
From: egertsenzon@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:04:07 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Please repost info about the American group- Marshmellow Overcoat.
I missed it!

Actually, if you could e-mal the info to me at 
EGERTSENZON@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
I would love you forever.

Well, I would appreciate it a lot.

thanks,
elena
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From: donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241])
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Concert Info...
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:40:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: na
Organization: Applix, Inc., Westboro, MA

In article <1992Nov19.172447.16883@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes:
><U46837@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Out here in California, I heard that MBM is touring with 808 State and
>thought that to be quite an interesting combination: Industrial and
>Techno.  Now that I see the above combination of MBM with rave bands, I
>wonder if the new MBM album has such influences?  I sure hope not.  I
>personally had hoped that we'd lost this rave crap for good.
>_______________________________________________________________________________

	in what way is MBM industrial? (and no, i don't mean "real"
industrial, i mean in what way is MBM industrial dance?  i don't see it.)
except maybe on _Storm_the_Studio_ .  
how anyone can call 99% and Satyricon industrial dance is beyond me.
please enlighten me.


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From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Riot Grrrls
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:25:50 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

There's a very interesting article in today's (Nov. 15) New York Times
about the Riot Grrrls movement. Some of the bands mentioned are:

Bratmobile, Heavens to Betsy,Mecca Normal, and Bikini Kill.

Nuno
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: Re: Grunge - it's NOT new
Originator: tphailey@c00016-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:13:27 GMT


Rob Vaughn speaks the truth:

>Sub Pop first itself up on Green River, Tad, Chemisty Set, and a bunch of
>others.  Few people are as rabid about "grunge" as I am, and there's no way
>I can ignore the fact that grunge has origins in bands like The MC5, The
>Stooges, and Black Sabbath.  It's been around a lot longer than "punk"
>contrary to the claims of folks on the punk mailing list.

So do you know what became of some of the early Sub Pop bands, Catbutt in 
particular?

TOMASS
From: perring@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new lovechild 
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:29:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1ebcpnINNm5h@agate.berkeley.edu>, sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
> OK - it's time for another CD run and I've been interested in getting the
> new Lovechild CD, _Witchcraft_, and the new Sprinkler CD, _More Boy, Less
> Friend_ (the best album title I've seen since _668 - The Neighbor of the
> Beast_).
> 
> Last year's Lovechild release, _Okay?_, I thought was one of the great
> surprise indie albums of the year.  I've heard a few cuts from the new
> one, and it sounds a bit more relaxed.  Anyone have it and/or any opinions
> on the new CD?  I loved the last one.
> 
It's really good.  Some great simple tunes, with a Beat Happening 
sense of fun.  Seductive sounds, noise, punk, pop and sweetness.  Well 
worth getting.  Pretty good live as well.

Christian

Go for credit in the straight world
Look a dealer in the eye    YMG
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: bigby@iat.holonet.net (Burt Bigby)
Subject: Re: Need title for Smiths song
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:42:10 GMT

I believe the title is "There is a light that never goes out." Your welcome.
From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Patchouli (was Re: Sonic Youth/Daydream Nation)
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:00:43 GMT
Organization: Seattle University


My copy of Daydream Nation (which I bought soon after it came out, so it
must have been the original pressing) smelled just like a CD should. 
Whichis good, because I hate patchouli.  I feel sympathy for the rest of
you poor sods.... :)

Lena
      kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu

      "My writing/like tiny insects/in the palm of history"
                            -- Thomas Dolby, "Dissidents"

      "My home town, it's more than a town to me
      it's more than plain, it's a city of pain,
      it's one big factory!"
                           -- Mark Mothersbaugh
From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: go-betweens
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:51:06 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Nov20.095216.1813@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> perring@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes: 

>I read somewhere that they had reformed or were at least touring 
>together. Does anyone know whether they will be releasing new material?
>

Grant has a album due out in January, which probably puts any idea of
a reformation on hold for a while.


CHR$
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