HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sitekm@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Mark Andrew Sitek)
Subject: UNC 80 UVA 58
Reply-To: sitekm@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:52:45 GMT

Keywords:
What a game. Things started as if it was going to be a good game. Carolina
had a couple of 11 and 12 point leads cut to 5 a couple of times. The first
half was Carolina showing it's outside game. The boys from UVA did a good
job securing the post and Montross and Lynch. This only made the Heels look
to Henrik Rodl and his three's. The tarheels went up by seven at the half following a layup by Montross. This was a significant basket because it was a taste of what was to come in the second half.
	The second half started pretty good with UVA still in the game. However the Cavaliers became more aware of the Tarheel perimeter game and began to lossen up inside. This allowed the great powers of Lynch, Montross, and Salvadori to show their stuff. At this point about midway through the half Carolina stepped up the pressure-d and went on a tear. In my opinion that was Carolina at its best(of course others might say it was UVA at its worse). UVA went on a serious shooting drought locking up the game for t

he team in white and blue. There were times when Carolina could do no wrong. That is the Carolina team I am familar with. UVA did not play a bad game, Carolina just played a perfect game. This game makes up for the crap UNC displayed against Clemson. I just hope they can sustain there high level of play and keep there modesty. Look out NCAA the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is starting to come together. 

	 
 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: woofing about Ward
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:22:41 GMT

In article <82062@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>So are the FSU fans going to start a "Charlie Ward is a (Heisman) Naismith
>Award" thread here too?  Someone mentioned Ward giving the ACC fits in both
>f-ball and b-ball.  Those FSU football weren't all blowouts like they were
>against Duke.  Clemson, Tech, and Virginia were all less than 10 point games.
>As for b-ball, its a long season and not even half over yet.  We'll see how
>Ward does against his opposition throughout the whole season, not just at
>home against NCSU.

Ward will _NEVER_ get the Naismith award....he doesn't fit into the "mo
points"/hype-campaigning image of the award (of late). I, personally, hope
he doesn't get the damn Heisman award either...FSU has enough jinxes to work
with for now, thanks.

>-- 
>BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
>uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt6390a
>Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu

Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin)
Subject: Re: Last Weeks AP10
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:49:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.222240.2596@news.uiowa.edu> wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:

>Is Duke a UNC system school?

	Air ball, Walt!  Duke is a private school and is not
	part of the UNC system.  The notion is blasphemous to
	either side.  (Ironically, though, NC State is a UNC
	system school.)

>I was wondering because of the Bob K-Coach K thing.

	Please explain yourself.

	--rb
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: PHXLIB@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Clarence "Bighouse" Gaines
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:14:10 GMT

In article <C18L16.9EC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
 
>Excuse me, but is Clarence Gaines still an active coach?  (Wiston-
>Salem I believe)  I remember hearing that he won his 800th game
>last year (could've been 2 years ago).  Could someone print a
>list of the coaches with the most collegiate wins, active and/or
 
 
 
 
Here is a list of the active coaches with the most wins:
 
Dean Smith-  North Carolina       755
Don Haskins- Texas-El Paso        617
Lefty Driesell-James Madison      611
Norm Stewart-Missouri             604
Bobby Knight-Indiana              604
Lou Henson- Illinois              600
>inactive.
>
>Congrats to Lou Henson, who won his 600th tonight against Penn
>State.  Illinois hit 24-24 free throws, and only had 5 turnovers.
>
>
>Scott
>
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From: Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan)
Subject: Re: Duke loss
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:17:40 GMT

Orin:

> Then maybe your following posts should agree with it.

Once I conceded the point, I never said anything contradictory.

> I'm not bitter about anything, including your posts, despite the
> fact that people on both sides of the aisle think you're a goof.

If you are not bitter, then why do you wear your emotions on your sleeve?
Doesn't your calling me a goof prove as much? I have never pretended to be
a netgod or basketball guru. I don't go out and read all the publications.
I don't need Joe Blow to tell me when a team is good, or who is the best
free throw shooter in the country. I watch games for the entertainment
factor. It's not my whole life. I have no personal attachment to it. 

Mike (bowing to Orin the netgod)

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From: crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:16:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
Keywords: 104-82 !

lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:

>I don't know how serious you are about Stokes, but he will have to get his
>numbers way up to have a chance to displace Haskins.  Haskins just had a great
>weekend last week (something like 48 points and 27 rebounds--I know he had 17
>rebounds in one game) and has been scoring 20 or more points game in and game
>out.  Moreover, he's not bad defensively, though maybe Stokes gets the edge
>here.  

Haskins just got killed this weekend on the trip north to Washington.  On
Thursday, he was thoroughly dominated by Rich Manning who scored 27 points 
and grabbed 9 boards to Haskins 15 or so points and 5-6 boards.  Then on
Saturday, Haskins had about the worst game of his career, scoring only about
6 or 7 against WSU.  The Cougars have probably the weakest front line of 
any team in the Pac Ten.

Stokes has been d*mned impressive during conference play this year.  It is
about time, too, since he had 3 1/2 years of mediocrity at Tuscon to show
for his time spent with Coach Lute.  I might give Stokes the nod over Haskins
right now, but there is still plenty of time left in the season to sort
this stuff out.  

If I had to name an all-Pac team right now, it would be:

Stoudamire, Mills, Haskins, O'Bannon, Hedake Smith.

2nd team:

Kidd, Murray, Stokes, Manning, Edney.

Honorable mention:

Pope, Grigsby, Reeves,  E. Hill,  P. Glenn, A. Stoudamire, McKinney.

All freshman team:  Kidd, M. Hendrickson, D. Cross (I think he is a frosh), 
2 stiffs.

Player of the year:  Mills.
Freshman of the year:  Kidd.

It seems to me that the Pac Ten has some pretty good point guards, forwards,
and centers, but is really weak at shooting guard.  A. Stoudamire has
more talent than any of the other shooting guards, but hasn't had too much
success this year.  Hedake Smith has (hence his 1st team selection).  There
are at least four pretty good point guards in D. Stoudamire, Kidd, Edney,
and McKinney.  There is a lot of talent at forward, with Mills, O'Bannon,
Murray, Pope, and Grigsby at the very least.  In the low post, Stokes plays
the best defense, Haskins plays the best offense, and Manning is the most
versatile, and all three will likely play pro ball.

I've probably skipped over a couple of players, but this is what comes to 
mind off of the top of my head...

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   There is no such thing as "rock bottom".
University of Washington      *   
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Brian Hendrick
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:05:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C1FBpt.BEH.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <C1F9x6.9ut.2@cs.cmu.edu> landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay) writes:
>Hmmm... Brian Hendrick managed 23 points against UCLA in Cal's
>win on Sunday.  Not bad for a guy who has had a hard time
>coming back from a knee injury he suffered last year.  Plus, we all know
>he isn't very good (even though he has been all-Pac 10 three
>years running) and only scores because there is nobody else
>on Cal's team that is any good (though it will be a crime if
>Murray doesn't make all-Pac 10 this year, along with Kidd and
>Haase on the all-frosh team.)
>
>

Brian also had 8 boards.


-- 

James A. Landay
landay@cs.cmu.edu
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: IU question
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:57:51 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
Distribution: rec
	<C1K00J.6n4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <C1Kw0I.1F1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu
In-reply-to: rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:12:18 GMT

}} In article <C1Kw0I.1F1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rstimets@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (robert and stimets) writes:
}} 
}} >Alan Henderson
}} Most impressive sophomore anywhere.

Glenn Robinson, Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, Anfernee Hardaway, Ed
O'Bannon, ...

Henderson isn't even the best sophomore in the state, much less the
conference or the nation.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu                 Steve Chapin                 ...!purdue!sjc
    loose == set free; lose == misplace, or fail to win, gain, or obtain
         their is possessive; there is a place; they're == they are

       "A man has made at least a start on discovering the meaning of
       human life when he plants shade trees under which he knows full
                 well he will never sit."  (Elton Trueblood)
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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Coaching Comparison
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:26:38 GMT

Can you figure out who is who?

                Coach A                      Coach B
                -------                      -------
School          *** Greatest Basketball School Ever ***

Number of Years 4+                           5+

Record          106-40 (72.6%)               119-32 (78.8%)

Tourney Record  6-4  (60%)                   8-4  (67.7%)

Tourney Upsets  Lost in 1st round one        Lost in 2nd round two of last
                year.                        three years (once with top seed).

Record Prior    Been to NCAA tourney         Been to NCAA tourney five of
to arrival      twice in previous 7 years,   previous 7 years, going 14-4,
of current      losing in the 1st and 2nd    and winning 1 championship.
coach           round.

This week       Beaten at home (30% point margin) by borderline top-25 team.
                And looked crummy while doing it (like you can look good when
                losing by 30%).

Outlook         Despised as "worthless"      Revered as "great coaching mind"
                Probably gone after season   Given contract extension

Not much difference between 'em, if you ask me.
--

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               			This time, *with* the oys
From: genzuk@mizar.usc.edu (Michael Genzuk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: USC - Will Surprise Many
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:19:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

With the sweep of the Northern California teams this weekend, USC has
improved to 4-2 in the Pac 10.  They are going to surprise a lot of 
people with the talent they have and even more impressive the heart
they play with.  Don't be surprised to see them in the "big show".
Another warning, "Watch out UCLA!"

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Duke loss
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:03:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.005703.439@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
rca2t@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Rafael Candido Alvarado) writes:

> Unbelievable! Another bonehead newgsroup where a simple point can't be
> made without the usual egregious misreadings and casual invective.  Yes,
> this is a little flame, but the last from this lighter.
> 
> Ciao.
> --
> R.C. Alvarado				rca2t@Virginia.EDU
> Department of Anthropology		rca2t@Virginia.BITNET
> University of Virginia			uunet!virginia!rca2t

Well Gidi, you got rid of another one.  Or maybe I should 
merely give credit to Curtis and Craig for a great win...

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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Charleston and UNO (was: Arizona New Orleans)
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:17:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <C1Dtrv.9zH@rice.edu>, micah@ravl.rice.edu (Micah Samuel Rosen) writes:
> Just out of curiosity, is New Orleans in the same conference as the
> College of Charleston? I heard something to that effect several days

NO - the Sunbelt conf. I believe...


			gln
From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Ohio State Summary
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:17:20 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
NNTP-Posting-Host: lucky.engin.umich.edu

>
>it's this letup and inability to put even AVERAGE teams away at home
>that will cause these overrated wolves to tumble in the tourney.
>the "let up" syndrome better be addressed by pseudo-coach fisher
>else they're due for more big10 losses.  hell, if the illini can play
>with 8 up in annarbor, they can hang closer in Assembly.
>

1)  these overrated wolves will not be playing at home in the tourney

2)  the "let up" syndrome only exists at home; UM is much better on
    the road

3)  I agree.  the Illini are AVERAGE!!



-- 
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu 
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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: NCSU to win NCAA NC this year!!
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:34:36 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero) writes:

> ...... And that Les Robinson has to put on a Jersey himself if State 
>wants to play a practice game?

Is this true?  Considering the State's situation, I would believe this!


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 Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:32:47 EST
From: Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Women's BB - the truth (was ATTENTION ALL PENN STATERS:IMPORTANT!)

There were a few idioitc comments on here from people who didn't like women's
basketball.  It's okay if you feel that way - you don't have to like the sport.
Personally, I think that men's basketball is BORRRRRING...but I'm not going to
say that the sport sucks or anything.  That's just my view.
    What was idiotic was the reasoning that women's basketball is <stupid
and inaccurate explanations>  Women's basketball IS a sport - and there are
many gifted women players that play the game.  It's not like high school girls
basketball - it's a sport on the same level as the men's game -- only that men
play men's basketball and women play women's basketball.  True, most of the
time, a group of 5 women basketball athlete players can't beat 5 men basketball
players, but all of the fans who say that women's basketball isn't a sport and
shouldn't be this and that, blah, blah...well I'd like to see you take on
anybody from a top 25 team one against one.  Chances are you would lose.  I'm
a decent player, but I'd know I'd get demolished by anyone on the Penn State
women's team.  They are truly gifted athletes and it is a great sport to watch.
     My point is if you're going to comment on something, have facts to back it
up.  If something isn't true, then keep your comments to yourself.  We already
had this big battle between women's and men's basketball last semester and we
don't need to go through it again.
     All you Penn Staters if you're reading this again, tomorrow's game is now
even more magnified.  Ohio State is now No. 4 and Penn State is up to No. 6.
Many people are interested in the game.  It will probably come close to sellout
status - so be there and cheer on the Lady Lions!!!
     Also a note to women's basketball fans, remember Saturday is the big day
between No. 1 Vanderbilt and No. 2 Tennessee.  The game is already a sellout
with over 15,000 fans going to the game.  Does anyone know if this is being
televised?  Let me know. Thanks!
** Rob **
Contact for the Penn State Lady Lions
From: x92lowry2@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: EXECUTE DICK VITALE
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:40:03 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



In article <ASH.93Jan18082949@ulysses.mr.ams.com>, ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
> In article <80156@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
> 
>    >In article <3319@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> durway@devnull.tandem.com (Lindsey Durway) writes:
>    >>Dick Vitale has got to be the most ANNOYING IDIOT on TV, even
>    >>worse than Arsenio Hall & Jay Leno put together.  How does he
>    >>keep his job?  What is the attraction??  Does he do ANYTHING
>    >>besides babble like Bullwinkle throu                                    
> 
> 
> I HAPPEN TO LOVE DICK VITALE.  THE GUY IS AWESOME WITH A CAPITAL A, BABY!
SURE YOU TEND TO THINK HE HAS A MENTAL DISORDER.  BUT YOU HAVE TO LOVE HIS
ENTHUSIASTIC STYLE.  IF ALL ANNOUNCERS WERE MORE LIKE HIM THE RATINGS OF
SPORTING EVENTS WOULD SKYROCKET.   BRICK-CITY USA , BABY!

MICHAEL LOWRY 
WESTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY
From: 900433v@ace.acadiau.ca (JASON CORNELIUS VANDERTOORN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: test
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:38:20 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

this is just a test ignore.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: Pitt makes Winning a Habit ( re: Panthers victimize BC)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:44:46 GMT

wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers) writes:

>During the '86 game, IL's gangly 7-0 sophomore center Jens
>Kujawa was matched against an even larger Pitt project.  It was 
>funny to hear the announcers described Jens as 'The smaller, 
>quicker player.'  

As pointed out to me by two people (one more graciously than
the other), Pitt lost with shorter players.  The comment was 
made about Villanova's Tom Grice (sp?).  But then what Illini
fan wouldn't want to forget that game...


.
From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:44:46 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: lindy.stanford.edu
Keywords: 104-82 !

In article <1k1ornINNe24@shelley.u.washington.edu> crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:
>
>>weekend last week (something like 48 points and 27 rebounds--I know he had 17
>>rebounds in one game) and has been scoring 20 or more points game in and game
>>out.  Moreover, he's not bad defensively, though maybe Stokes gets the edge
>Haskins just got killed this weekend on the trip north to Washington.  On
>Thursday, he was thoroughly dominated by Rich Manning who scored 27 points 
>Saturday, Haskins had about the worst game of his career, scoring only about
>

Oops, you're right.  I had no idea what happened up north.  I was talking 
about the previous week.  Usually it takes several months for news about
a Oregon-Washington weekend to hit the newspapers down here.  Instead, I 
got to watch Arizona State on national television ...


>Stokes has been d*mned impressive during conference play this year.  It is

Hey, if conference play is all it takes, let's put Dion Cross on the first
team.   (Yeah, I'm kidding.)  Actually, Cross had a 3-game run with
52 points, but he had a terrible game against USC.  

>
>All freshman team:  Kidd, M. Hendrickson, D. Cross (I think he is a frosh), 

Oh, I see you are way ahead of me.  As for shooting guard, you forgot 
Cal's Jerod Haase.  He is VERY good and carried the team in a few of the
early-season games.  What about Barry up at Oregon State?  Or is he really
their point guard.  He does have the occasional brilliant moment, followed
usually by an equally creative turnover.  

Henry
From: edharris@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Jeff Brassow Out
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:58:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <128420007@hpindda.cup.hp.com>, tomc@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Tom Carney) writes:
> What's the latest on Jeff?  The local paper listed him a having played in the 
> South Caroline game.  Is he back already?
> 
> Tnx  Tom Carney
> 
Brassow played tonight against LSU (UK 105 LSU 67)

And for those of you wondering, Aminu Timberlake got some minutes as well...

ED
From: fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Womens' arenas???
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:35:43 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	The "Lady Tar Heels" actually have a better arena than their male
basketball counterparts.  While the men play in the cavernous Smith Center,
the women still play in cozy Carmichael Auditoreum.  Although the Smith 
Center crowd is starting to realize the potential vocality for a 23,000-seat
arena, it still can't match Carmichael as an old-fashioned snake pit.  
(Although I don't believe the crowds for the women's games in Carmichael quite
match up with the crowds from the men's games there.)

	The women's soccer team at UNC does permit the men's team to play on
their turf.
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