HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grady@public.BTR.COM ( )
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: evading phone taps
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:48:12 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

Mike Berger questions how packet could evade     
effective radio direction finding...
 
                                                                      
----                                                                        
                                                                        
 
Basically, you are right.  If the opponent              
is _prepared_ for radio transmissions from
a subject, then with the proper equipment,
they could triangulate within _milliseconds_.
                      
However, using, for example, RSA-style public      
key cryptography, the _contents_ of the 
communication and the identity of its recipient
remain concealed.

And of course getting a Technician's license
from the FCC does not now require learning
the morse code.  Anyone with a couple
of science courses in high school could pass
the Technician's test in just a few hours
of study.

Further, the you can count on the FBI being
technically befuddled.  For example, while
visiting FBI headquarters last month we were
forbidden to carry "cameras, tape recorders,
weapons" but no where were portable "capturing"
scanners forbidden.  The FBI seemed to be
operating out of the fifties.  The machine gun
exhibition was a great hit with the kids, though.

The FBI's total yearly budget is approximately
equals to Apple Computer's sales for one quarter.

With that kind of budget, the FBI can hire
accounting majors from Washington State 
University for Special Agents, not Stephen
Wolframs'...

And Ed Carp is right too -- the HTX202 is as
effective as the Icom W2 as the transceiver
portion of the packet radio package.  It's
just that I own a W2 and I can _guarantee_ it
can work substantially as described in my
scenarios... 73 de KD6ETH  Grady


-- 
Grady Ward  grady@btr.com  Moby Lexicons
From: grady@public.BTR.COM ( )
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: PGP2.0 by snail
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:41:49 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

Thanks to several individuals on the net 
for responding to my request for PGP2.0.         
 
As a way of saying "thanks," I will send
a copy of this MS-DOS 3.5" DD disk to                                 
you with the complete source and object                                     
in return for:                                                          
 
(1) A SASE with two ounces postage or two IRC's;        
and a blank 3.5" DD disk, OR
                                 
(2) a donation of US$3 -- $5 if you also want
a disk containing sources to DES, Lucifer, SHA,
and other algorithms.                              

Right now I cannot ship outside North America, but
I will be able to when I finish my "code-to-documentation"
algorithm that dithers source code into documentation
whose expression is protected under the first
admendment of the U.S. Constitution.

You may want to take advantage of this mode of
distribution if it is difficult or inconvenient to
download, FTP, or be e-mail served this material,
or if you want a "second copy" to serve as a
cross-check on your primary distribution method.

Grady Ward
P.O. Box 52137
Pacific Grove, CA  93950

grady@btr.com  (408) 373-1491

-- 
Grady Ward  grady@btr.com  Moby Lexicons (408) 373-1491
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: Re: evading phone taps
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:29:31 GMT

leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) writes:

>grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:

>>Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>   writes, in part:

>>"Transmission of encrypted material on amateur bands is against FCC
>>regulations. ..."

>>--------


>>(1)  The burden of proof is on the FCC to show that it is encrypted,
>>not compressed, just data with low entropy, or random noise.
>>Unlike the AX.25 link protocol specified by FCC rules, the higher
>>level protocols are not required to be plain-text;

>No, but you are *required* to have filed any encryption used with the
>FCC unless it is something common enough that you can just say "I'm
>using XYZ code".

>By *definition* if they can't read it, they have the right to *demand*
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could you quote the source of this definition?  Is it in part 97? (no)

>the plaintext. And if you can't supply it, you are in violation. If you
>can't provide not just an explantion, but actual output, they can at the
>very least nail you for improperly operating the equipment. That takes
>care of the "it's on the fritz" argument. And you are going to be hard
>pressed to justify any of the "legitimate" explanations you offered.

Again, quote references please.

73,
Dave
-- 
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Project Leader, OCR products            Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
From: jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jermaster)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Who's in ASIA?
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:28:54 GMT
Organization: Eastern & Ohio Railroad Company
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63154.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct7.180947.5271@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood) writes:
>
>The band members at the time of writing are:
>
>John Payne - vocals & bass
>Geoff Downes - backing vocals & keyboards
>Al Pitrelli - backing vocals & guitars
>Steve Howe - backing vocals & guitars*
>Carl Palmer - percussion**
>
[more deleted]

So what happened to John Wetton? Is he doing solo stuff now, or not doing
anything at all?

Thanx,
-Jer
--
Jerry W. Jordak           You can take my head and cut if off, 
a.k.a. Jermaster          But you ain't gonna change my mind.....
(jwj2@po.cwru.edu)                                        --Alice Cooper
From: reeve@steam.Xylogics.COM (Scott Reeve)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Tull
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: reeve@steam.Xylogics.COM (Scott Reeve)
Organization: Xylogics, Inc. Burlington, MA, USA 01810


I noticed on the last album, "A Little Light Music" and 
at the concert that Doane Perry is no longer with the band.
Does anyone know what happened?  Is this permanent?
That cat could *play*.  :-(

- Scott
From: daniel@acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Upcoming Marillion tour date.
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:31:07 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Admittedly this information has come up on this group in the last month,
but in my opinion, it is worth re-mentioning.  The band will be playing
at Hammerjacks in Baltimore of Friday, Oct. 23rd.  Tickets are a measly
$7 apiece.  Just thought all the Freaks out there would like to know if
you didn't already!

T. Daniel Crawford
Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602

P.S. For those of you who don't know much about Marillion, yes, I _do_
think they're worth the 12 hour drive from Athens to Baltimore for the
concert.  Definitely.  No doubt.

Reply to: crawdad%sherman.ccqc.uga.edu@athena.uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: THE dream band
Summary: There is no other
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:46:18 CDT


Tom Jones:		Lead Vocal, Maracas
Joe Walsh:		Lead/Rhythm Guitar, Keyboards, Background Vocals
Eric Clapton:		Lead/Rhythm Guitar, Background Vocals
Angus Young:		Lead/Rhythm Guitar, Background "Oy!"'s
Billy Joel:		Piano, Harmonica
Don Henley:		Drums, Background Vocals
Roger Waters:		Bass, Background Vocals, Illiteration,
			Back-Masking, Old English, Nipple Shaving
Crystal Taliafaro:	Background Vocals, Sax, Percussion
Whitney Houston:	Background Vocals
Mariah Carey:		Background Vocals
From: rda813m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (John Syer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Queen
Keywords: I'm going completely mad
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:04:54 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus

jbadro@ens-lyon.fr (James Badro) writes:



>Hello all of you out there !!!!!!
>I would very much like to know if anybody knows what is supposed to
>be included in the next Queen album "the crown jewels"; otherwise, do you know if
>there is such a thing as a more or less specialized Queen newsgroup...

There _is_ a specialized news group for Queen fans, and general Queen
stuff...
	It's  -=< alt.music.queen >=-  , but it's pretty dead at the moment,
it only seems to be getting single figure postings per day.

Of course this is only in Australia, there could be a world wide
distribution which I'm not getting here.

-- Brave and Bold Sir John the Valiant.

>thanks
>				JB	:-)
-- 
=================================== |    rda813m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au 
Brave and Bold Sir John the Valiant |         Plot? Plot? What plot?
=================================== | ... Hmmm... yeah... and yet... hmmm...
From: dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: The Australian Doors Show
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:16:35 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <6435@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, bane@taylor.ma.man.ac.uk (MICHAEL) writes:
> Does abybody have any idea what The Australian Doors Show is?
> Is it a band?
> Are they good?
> 

I don't know about the Australian Doors show, but I've heard a lot about
"The Soft Parade : Featuring Joe Russo" which is a Doors tribute band on
tour in Europe right now.  I've seen pictures of Joe and the likeness is
uncanny.  He sings pretty good too (I've heard).

> Michael

-Dave
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:09:44 EDT
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: FISHBONE / BOSSTONES Info Wanted

The Bosstones will be performing at the Tavern, here at American University
in Washington DC tomorrow (Saturday the 10th)...


Tix are only $5 I think....

Just passing along the info...


Mike
---
Mike Weintraub                "The ability to destroy a planet is
The American University        insignificant next to the power of the
mweintr@american.edu           Force." -Darth Vader
bbs.kenobi@goonsquad.spies.com                "Thou shalt not allow
Kenobi on IRC                                  moochers into thy hut."
                                                         -Homer Simpson
"The point of the journey is not to arrive." -Neil Peart
From: cumminje@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.edu(James Cummings)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: DEBBIE GIBSON - the eighties phenomenon - is she dead too??
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:07:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: cumminje@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.edu(James Cummings)
NNTP-Posting-Host: l130b11.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Oct15.103725.614@dct.ac.uk> aesba1pje@dct.ac.uk writes:
> Whatever happened to Debbie Gibson???
> 
> 3 albums, supposedly a film and now we hear nothing!!!!!!!
> 
> Please reply to aesba1pje@uk.ac.dct if you have any information  
regarding this
> matter

Is this a bad thing??????
























James
From: steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu (Dave Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Jethro Tull
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:52:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
To: kabadkar@CS.ColoState.EDU
Cc: steiner

In article <Oct06.164510.59621@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kabadkar@CS.ColoState.EDU (ashwin kabadkar) writes:

>  Is there an archive site where I can get
>  the lyrics for Jethro Tull's songs?

Yes, lyrics are available in the Jethro Tull Digest archives.  You can
get them via anonymous-ftp on remus.rutgers.edu.  Connect to the
directory 'JethroTull' and look around.  The lyrics are in the 'Lyrics'
subdirectory of the 'JethroTull' directory.

For more info about the Jethro Tull Digest or the archives, send mail
to jtull-request@remus.rutgers.edu.

ds
-- 

Dave Steiner
arpa: Steiner@BakerSt.Rutgers.Edu or Steiner@Rutgers.Edu
uucp: ...{backbone site}!rutgers!bakerst.rutgers.edu!steiner
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATT SUROWIEC - CROWEHEAD)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: DEBBIE GIBSON - the eighties phenomenon - is she dead too??
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct15.103725.614@dct.ac.uk>, aesba1pje@dct.ac.uk writes...
>Whatever happened to Debbie Gibson???
> 
>3 albums, supposedly a film and now we hear nothing!!!!!!!
> 
>Please reply to aesba1pje@uk.ac.dct if you have any information regarding this
>matter

last i heard, she was on Broadway, starring in "Les Miserables"

btw, at a local record store, they have a box set of all her stuff, including
a live video



CROWEHEAD
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu (The Old Boy)
Subject: 'The Connection Song'
Organization: LSJU
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:45:14 GMT

Hope someone can ID this song for me... I heard it on the radio the other day,
sounds like Sammy Hagar's voice but can't be sure.  Anyway, it's a pretty
mellow tune, lots of lines that end in "....ection," e.g. "treat me for a
thousand rare inFECTIONS"  Then the chorus is something like "I'm trying to
make a connection... to get back to you."  What I'd like to know is:
the song title, the artist (if not Sammy Hagar), and the name of the album
that this track appears on.

				Thanks!
			---===> Adrian <===---
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: ahle@anke.abo.fi (Peter Ahlskog DC)
Subject: Re: Nuno is King!
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:51:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.103158.8490@bradford.ac.uk> G.I.West@bradford.ac.uk (Graham West) writes:

	*stuff deleted*

   The UK leg of the tour begins in early December I think - I'm seeing them
   on the 19th in Bournemouth. Anyone know who the UK support band will be?

Nope, but here in Finland the 18th of November it is Thunder....and YES
I've got my ticket!

--
 Peter "Ale" Ahlskog                            e-mail: ahle@anke.abo.fi
 Computing Centre       Abo Akademi University  Phone:  +358-21-65*4472
     "It's green, it's mean, it's mine and it's eating them alive"
                        DoD: #138, ZXR 750 (Jolly)
From: sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM (Sheri Gillette)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: **JOAN JETT/RUNAWAYS**
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:45:00 GMT
Reply-To: sherig@jett.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jett.ebay.sun.com




Any JETT or Runaways fans out there?

Talk to me!

-Sheri
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:00:30 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: THE DREAM BaND!!!
	<ldj8n3INN8e3@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>

>Guitar/background vocals/piano - Nuno Bettencourt
>Lead Vocals - Sebastian Bach
>Drums - Neil Peart
>Bass/Misc. Debris/Weird but cool vocals - Les Claypool

>Stewart Copeland - drums
>Danny Elfman - vocals, rhythm guitar
>Larry Carlton - lead guitar
>Tia Carrera - Bass (-:


hmm.
how about this:
Danny Elfman--vocals, rhythm
Peter Gabriel--vocals, keyboards
Freddie Mercury--vocals, piano
Eddie VanHalen--lead guitar
Brian May--lead guitar
Neil Peart--drums, percussion
Phil Collins--drums
Sting--bass, vocals
Les Claypool--bass, vocals
Clarence Clemons--sax


nah.

--Vernon.
From: pessano@erkle.csee.usf.edu (Jon Pessano)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: u2 tickets for sale
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:13:53 GMT
Distribution: tba
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

title says it all.
have 3 tickets for sat concert at tampa stadium.
am selling them for face value.

please respond to: pessano@eggo.csee.usf.edu

sincerely
jon pessano
From: v130r92d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark R Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: CD's
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone know what the yellow and red stickers on CD's mean or symbolize?

Also why is there that hologram sticker on the jewel box? I think its a pain
because it does not come off cleanly!
Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka)
Subject: Re: In The Pink
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:04:50 GMT

: In article <8eoVFze00aw4AEx0Qf@andrew.cmu.edu>, Karen Lee Graney <kg2g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
:  has anyone out there ever heard of  a local Boston band called "In The
:  Pink"?  WAAF in Boston plays a song by them called "Under Summer Skys". 
:  I've heard some of their other songs, and they are really good.  I
:  thought they were coming out with an album when the got a record
:  contract, but that was a while ago.  I just want to know if anyone knows
:  anything about them.
:                                                                          
:        Karen

I have posted a few times about In the Pink, but noone replies to me. I love
their music a lot.  I wish that there was more info but I cant findd it at all.
The only thing I can think of doing is to call WAAF and ask them for some info,
but I just never think of it anymore......

Lets see if anyone replies this time :)

-Mel
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: giant@next08wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor)
Subject: Re: *THE* DREAM BAND!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:18:52 GMT


Vocals : Lou Gramm, or Eddie Vedder, or both
Guitars: Dann Huff, Joe Satriani
Bass: Michael Inez
Drums:  Wil Calhoun
Lyricist: Vedder
Keyboards:  Nuno-backround vocals, bit of guitar....sort of a 
          MVP.... :)



--
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman)
Subject: Re: U2 Tickets
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:12:12 GMT

In article <22773@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>I have four tickets for the U2 concert on October 30 in Los Angeles.  They
>are really good seats: center stage, field.  I am asking $95.00 for each
>ticket.  If you are interested, please E-mail me.  Thanks.
>[...]
>
>judson@watserv.ucr.edu

	Please don't use alt.rock-n-roll to scalp concert tickets.  Your
asking price is ridiculous and I suggest you read the back of the tickets
to find out how much you can LEGALLY sell them for.  Send flames to hell.  


-- 
 I ) I I <~ I_I   Terry Stedman				 .sig copyright 
 I \ I_I _> I I   Internet: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu   1992, T. Stedman
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:51:01 EDT
From: Stephen J. Schillinger <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Dream Band

Just wanted to ammend my last dream band:
Vocals - Paul Rodgers
Guitars - Dave Gilmour and Joe Walsh
Bass - Les Claypool
Drums - Neil Peart
Keys - Roddy Bottum
From: chris@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Chris Arps)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Jo Jo Gunne ?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:22:40 GMT
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.


Jo Jo Gunne was one of the better pop/rock groups in the seventies.
They were formed by 2 members of the group Spirit (Mark Andes and
Jay Ferguson).  Jay is still around and putting out various types
of music including soundtracks for Tale from the Crypt (on HBO).

For a really nice (loud) album by Ferguson, check out the album
White Noise made in the early eighties with Joe Walsh.  It is
one of his best.
-- 
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From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: SPINAL TAP TV special???
Date: 11 Oct 1992 19:33:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Any news on when the reputed Spinal Tap NBC special will air?
Did I miss it, or has it still not been shown?

-- 
aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu  /// :::::::Dan Doooovall:::::::  ///
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Rock Line - 10.12.92
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:40:38 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: MINE Mindless Idiot Nonothings Everywhere

In article <1992Oct13.161751.5277@wam.umd.edu} giant@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor) writes:
}
}Who was on the Rock Line last night???
}

REM, talkin about Automatic For The People.

-Jon
}}--Chris             /\  What I'm listening to:                 <   
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Jon Blixt                  I must not fear, Fear is the mind-killer, Fear is 
Control Data               the little-death that bring total obliteration,  I
Minnepolis, MN             will face my fear,  I will permit it to pass over
jblixt@neon.aqeng.cdc.com  me and through me, And when it has gone past I will
                           turn the inner eye to see its path, Where the fear
                           has gone there will be nothing,  Only I will remain.
                                       - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: JUTTA.LAGE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jutta Lage")
Subject: RE: Metalica Question
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 09 Oct 92 09:28:07 EST

RE: Metalica Question
My daughter Jessica, 13, is a heavy metal fanatic and she is looking for an alp
bum by this group called GARAGEDAYS REVISITED, but it does not appear to be sol
d in the U.S.? Any idea where to get it or is it selling under a different name
? Could you please respond to her? She has been trying to post to this network
but something has been going wrong... Thank you!
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: REM " Automatic... "ex
Date: 15 Oct 1992 07:03:45 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

I honestly must admit that I thought REM was on the verge of "selling
out" when I first heard "Out of Time."  I thought then that it was filled
with too many pop songs and what was Kate Pierson and rapper KRS-1 doing
there?  There were flashes of brilliance on that album like "Country
Feedback" and "Losing my religion" but I consider it the weakest of
the REM albums (noting of course that even a weak REM album surpasses
much of popular music anyway).  

Now I think "Out of Time" was more of REM testing the bounds of popular
stardom.  They got their album to #1 on the charts.  And "Automatic
for the people" shows an REM that can go back to making music for its
core audience.  But who knows?  We may be surprised again by their next
album which I think they have said will be more of a "noisy" rock
album.  

And while I am disappointed that REM hasn't toured in a while, I am glad
they didn't tour for "Out of Time" and instead recorded a great new 
album in 1992.

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley