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From: knight@iastate.edu (David P Bonthuis)
Subject: Re: OKOYE playing time
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:57:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.141858.5923@dg-rtp.dg.com> zayas@satchmo.rtp.dg.com (Mike Zayas) writes:
>
>Is there any reason, other than that Barry Word is having a good
>season, why Okoye isn't getting more playing time? Whats the word
>out of KC? For his one series on MNF he looked like vintage Nightmare.
>
>Please respond
>quickly, as I am debating whether or not to start him for my 
>Fantasy Football Melbourne Manatees. Thanks.


	My guess would be because he signed late and either isn't in 100%
game shape or Shotenhiemer (sp?) just doesn't think he deserves to start
because he held out.
	Besides, I think Word is proving to be more versatile.  He's
actually caught a couple of screens.  I say Okoye "attempt" to catch a
screen pass ONCE.
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From: oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley)
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:34 GMT

In article <1anr6vINNqho@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox) writes:
>
>In a previous article, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) says:
>
>>Can anyone beat Miami?
>I guess according to all thos oh so smart Buffalo Bronco fans, they have to
>go 16 and 0 since they just CREAMED/WALLOPED/DESTROYED/MANHANDLED/OVERPOWERED
>and OUTfingPLAYED the bald headed Kelly and his grass eating teammates!  It is
>amazing how Buffalo was so hyped up and they lost in their own back yard!!
>hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  I blow my nose in that general direction!!!
>
>Mike
>THE Miami Mike!!!
>-- 
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Ah, leave alone.  Once they beat a few weak teams in the next few
weeks, we will start seeing threads like "CAN BILLS GO 15-1?"  Just
let 'em choke on their own words.  Us Dolphin fans know the 'Phins are
better, and we don't have to beat it down their throats.  They did
it for us!!!!!


DonO

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Saints
Keywords: gimpy whiners
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:44:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Michael "Classic Whiner" Zimmers writes:
>Philip Hall writes:
>
>>So quit whining, we'll see you in San Francisco in November. 
>
>What is this knee-jerk reaction of Aints fans to label anything a Niner
>fan says as whining?  (Waaaaaaaa.   Waaaaaaaaa.)

Oh, gee, I dunno.  Case in point?

I've never heard such moaning and groaning over a 6-pt win in my life.
(Although it may be outdone this week, given the 3-pt win over that
deadly Rams-refs conspiracy at Matchstick Park)

Maybe there is justice in the world after all.  Its nice to know that an
organization that has been blessed with fielding some great teams and big
wins is also cursed with totally clueless fans (at least the ones with
net access), a stadium that reeks, and a mgt that can only lose money.

>>If we find a
>>running game by then, the result will be much different.
>
>You'll be on natural grass then, bud.  Better find a BIG running game.
>Not too many teams enjoy playing the Niners late in the season, either...

Bud, bud, buuud.  It doesn't matter who wins (Saints WILL), the
whiners will whine, and MORA will still be rightfully worshipped.

>
>-- 
>Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
(professional whinebibber)


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From: johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Patriots News 9/22
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
	<1992Sep24.015424.19294@unlinfo.unl.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:09:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.015424.19294@unlinfo.unl.edu> mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason) writes:
hunter@wpi.WPI.EDU (George M. Berberian) writes:
>
>>In article <a750288.23@pan.mc.ti.com> a750288@pan.mc.ti.com (John E. Brennan) writes:
>>>
>[entire quoted article omitted]
>
>>Well John, why don't we, "the faithful Patriot fans", hold our heads high
>>and kick some buffalo butt this week.
>>The seasons far from over and i can't imagine giving up. 
>
>>Just remember last years victory when Buffalo came to town.

or three years ago, when 7-3 buffalo came against the 3-7 pats, expecting to
win, and got beat 33-24.

>I am a diehard Patriot fan, but I'm also a realist.  If Buffalo is only a
>15 point favorite over us, Buffalo has got to be "the lock of the week."  
>Keep in mind we're averaging only 3 points of offense a game, while we're
>playing a no-mercy Buffalo offense that has scored 112 points in three
>games, and to top this off, our offensive line is inexperienced (but has
>plenty of potential!) which has contributed to the 13 sacks of Hugh "the
>highest paid player in NE History, but last in the QB ratings" Millen.
>

i unfortunately have to agree.  macpherson has a point in terms of playing
teams close to the vest, but when it comes to the weaker teams in the league
which the patriots must beat if they are to have any chance at a winning
season, they have to take a few more chances on offense.  the defense seems
fairly solid, allowing only an average of 12 points, but this is against two
of the weakest teams in the league.  la now averages 8 pts a game on
offense, and seattle averages only 7.67.  la's 14 and seattle's 10 against
the pats are season highs for both teams.  (will buffalo thus score at least
41?)

>Not calling for MacPherson's head in the least,
>--mg
>

me either.  the talent at qb is low, the talent at wr is *very* thin, the
offensive line is immature, the rb's are still mostly raw, and now the
kicking game seems suspect (maybe one missed fg and one missed pat is a poor
statistical sampling, but ... )  given their start, if this team wins as
many games as it did last year, i'll be surprised.  there is a definite
reason the team went 1-15 two years ago, and they won several close games
last year - a sign of a tough team to be sure, but an indicator that last
year's record was overachieving.


>--
>______________________________________________________________________________
>mike gleason                 mgleason@cse.unl.edu             NCEMRSoft, baby!
>

-johndoe
From: castillc@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Christopher R. Castillo)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 14:33:26 GMT
Subject: Leonard Marshall's Status
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro



Re: Status of Leonard Marshall (NYG)????

    Does anyone know if he is gone for the season??

    My FFL team depends on this.

    Any response will be great!



    HPFL Spartans
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Predictions, anyone?
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:40:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <ahn-041092193602@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu>, ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn) writes...
>Nah. Dolphins will meet the Chiefs in the AFC Championship.
>The Cowboys (Dallas, You're welcome! We aim to please! Take good care of
>Jimmy Johnson for us! Love, Miami :-) will meet the Eagles.
	[...]
>Dolphins will win. Come on folks! I got to feel like the Dolphins surpassed
>my expectations when they win this thing.
>Eugene "Mos Eisley" Ahn     ahn@suncis.cis.yale.edu


	It's amazing how fickle football fans are.  Just 24 hours ago, Buffalo
was favored to win the AFC East and the AFC title, period.  One loss later,
they're not even contenders anymore.  It truly amazes me.

Jonny B.

"I hope Kent Hull is ok" -- Jim Kelly
From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: player lists
Date: 30 Sep 1992 02:35:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: cns.microbiol.uwa.edu.au

Can anyone help me with player and position lists for the Broncos, Bills, 
Dolphins and 49ers...........

Thanks
Four Aussie pro-football converts  (well, almost!!)

Jodi Lindsay
Department of Microbiology
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From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Conservative Projections
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:51:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Oct5.174015.276@nmsu.edu> dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward) writes:
>
>  NFC - Division winners
>         Dallas
>         Chicago
	  ^^^^^^^- HUH? No way dude.
>         Saints
>
>     Wildcards:
>         Phildephia
>         Minisota
	  ^^^^^^^^- Try Minnesota, and they will win the NFC Central
>         San Francisco
>

	I think it will be more like this:

	NFC Division Winners
	   Philadelphia
	   Minnesota
	   San Francisco

	Wildcards
	   Dallas
	   Washington
	   New Orleans
	
	Mark
	GO VIKINGS

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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: '72Dolphins/Steelers
Keywords: 1000 yard runners in a season(2 of them)
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:52:38 GMT

rhoads@pepper.rutgers.edu (Glenn Rhoads) writes:

>Avron Bernstein writes,
>***********************
>Aha!  There have been three times(at least) when a single team has had two
>1000 yard runners the same season.  The last time was in 198_ when Mack and
>Byner did it for Cleveland.  The first time was indeed Mercury and Csonka.
>The other time was Blier and Harris for Pittsburgh.  So if that was one of your
>criteria for picking Dolphins, Pittsburgh can't be THAT far behind them.  Also,
>I don't know which year this was that they had the two 1000 yard runners, so
>it might not be the "best" of the Steeler teams.

Bleier and Harris did it in '76...

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From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Jensen has been released
Date: 1 Oct 1992 11:30:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have just read that they released WR JIM JENSEN.  Not Crash Jensen!?!?!

Let's all have a moment of silence!
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From: mark@totaltec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:54:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Total Tec Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct2.152935.1623@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.125700.21926@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes...
> 
>> 
>>Why not have a draft for C-Sci majors?
>> 
>>In article <0emUe0200WB2QIlnwj@andrew.cmu.edu>, Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>> Well, so far we have Jackson going to Marino and slaughter going
>>> to Moon. Obviously, any reciever in hi right mind would go to a
>>> good quaterback, so teams with bad QB's will have no passing attack
>>> at all (Bad QB+Bad WR=0)  Of course these teams will score a lot,
>>> which will attract the good defensive free agents and the good teams
>>> will get better.
>> 
>>And C-Sci majors will want to go to the most advanced, highest paying
>>companies... (no one will want to write COBOL...)
> [Analogy between drafting NFL players and CS majors deleted for 
> brevity.]
> 
> Companies *compete* against each other.  NFL teams, in reality, do not
What REALITY are you refering to? I watched some games yesterday and the
teams were definitily competing against each other!

GO EAGLES
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Re: Should Marv Levy Be Fired?
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:07:39 GMT

In Article 31422, ricardo.g.irvin writes ...

>I know this is not your main point, but, In no way was the GIANTS of 89
>"inferior" to the Bills. And they prove that 2 out of the 3 times they met
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that year. Just because they did not score 40 points per game like the
 ^^^^^^^^^ 
>Bills did does'nt make "inferior".
>I basically remember  the GIANTS driving the Bills
             ^^^^^^^^
>Def. Linemen down field and spiking them in the End Zone 8{D.

Does anyone know what the hell this guy is talking about ???????
What is this 2 of 3 dream ???? I sure don't trust this guys memory !!!

Saturday, Dec 15     Buf @ NYG 17 13  BILLS WIN
Sunday, Jan 27       NYG v Buf 20 19  BILLS CHOKE

The Bills won in NY, on the road, and Frank Reich played half the game.
Although Simms and Horsesitter also split the game.

Then the Bills lost at a neutral site, missing the game winning field
goal by a few feet...




--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Subject: Re: dallas vs philadelphi
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:32:58 GMT

In article <Sep.29.15.00.23.1992.6541@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
>From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
>Subject: Re: dallas vs philadelphi
>Date: 29 Sep 92 19:00:24 GMT

>al.sorhaindo@execnet.com (al sorhaindo) writes:

>>Two quarterbacks that have NEVER won a playoff game.


>>Let's be reasonable and not cancel the season after next monday night
>>and award the winner the Lombardi trophy.

>>The last Monday night game to receive much hype was SF-NY in 1990.

>>The difference was that it was much later in the season, and there were
>>two dynastys competing, not two wannabees. Still, the outcome was
>>not important because SF won, but the Giants beat them in the playoffs.

>   The Giants a dynasty?  I don't think so.  Let's face it, if Bahr was
>an amputee the Giants would be worthless.  How did they (HE) beat the 49er's?
>Five FG's.   

The Giants WERE BIG That year, wins by FG or NOT, the record stands, and it 
WAS A GREAT MATCHUP!  (and cut your tongue out, no I mean cut your fingers 
off for typing that amputee statement!)

Giants Blasphemy, hurumph!
>   You are correct, the 49er's are a dynasty.

NOT FOR LONG..........
Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU  
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Do You Want Updates?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:31:57 GMT

If anyone is interested in knowing the score of the
Bills/Dolphin game and or reports of it, please send
me email (jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com). I will also be 
reporting on the 49ers/Ram game later today.  I will post 
the scores of all games if you respond (as I know them).

Oh yeah, score right now: 

HALFTIME
Miami  17
Bills  10 

Kelly: two INT's, both converted into TD's.
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Fudge PACKERS
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 29 SEP 92 12:05:48    

In article <1a7q7uINNs7h@uwm.edu>, iluvls@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (James E Parks) writes...

>Do not get happy about the pack attack.
>Brett Farve is not the "messiah".
>He is to the packers what .......................
>............. well, the "MAJIC" man was to the packers, a one year wonder,
>if that.
>We will have to wait about as long as Chicago Cub fans have to for a World
>Serious (it's a joke) ring.
> 
> 
> 
>But hey, keep an eye on the Brewers, we just might have one winner from this
>cheesey freak show.
>  
>     James :) (with love and kisses to packer fans)

Yeah, so's your mother.

JGH
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:28:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulkyvx.1992Oct5.122857.1
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct4.210347.28947@cass.ma02.bull.com>, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) writes:
> After watching Miami take Buffalo apart, the question is:
> 
> Can anyone beat Miami?
> 
> 
> -- 
> ____________________________________________________
> Brian D. Silverio      b.silverio@bull.com
> (508) 294-6774
         I thought I would never hear anyone say that again. Damn it sounds
good. The only thing I'm worried about is the pass rush. I thought I heard
an anouncer on some channel say Marco Coleman played a good game. I thought
that he played an average game. I know he is just a rookie but on alot of plays
he was taken out. I still think he will become a very good and possibly a
great player. Brian Cox is picking up right where he left off last year.
Jeff Cross is playing hard but opponents are still double teaming him.
         I hope Ed Blake is going to start practicing this week, I've
heard that there is a chance he would. 
         If Edmonds is going to be traded for some deffensive help I'm
sure it will be for a lineman. I wonder who's out there?
         How about that hybred deffense? I wonder if Buffalo will see that
from another team besides the Dolfans? Now that Louis Oliver is showing
what he can do the Dolphins better keep him. Also Clayton should be shown
that the Dolphins want to keep him by signing him before the end of the season.

                      Here's something to think about:
               If the Dolphins go undefeated and untied Shula will tie
               Halas's record in the AFC Championship and
               Break the record in Super Bowl XXVII

                                -doug THE dolfan-
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From: centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam)
Subject: Re: Crowd Throws Objects, film at 11
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:49:03 GMT

>If they throw things, simply remove the offending party from the game.  A
>repeat performance at a later game revokes season tickets, and a third time
>gets them banned from the stadium.  It's that easy.
>
>gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN, AVRON P)

	Hey, you can't do this!  Throwing things is a tradition
at the Vet!  Especially throwing things at Jimmy Johnson when
he comes to town.  Examples:  batteries, beer, snowballs.  Heh.  :)
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From: bowen@ug.cs.dal.ca (keith graham bowen)
Subject: Re: T.E. or not T.E. - That is the question
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:18:49 GMT


When Shannon Sharpe played collegiate ball at Savannah State he was a WR,
but at 6-2, 225 the Broncos drafted him to be a pass-catching TE who could
line up at WR, kinda like Jay Novacek of Dallas.



-Keith

GOOOO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!
From: Corby.E.Page@dartmouth.edu (Corby E. Page)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 29-Sep-92
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:21:18 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1aaeg0INN2ff@gap.caltech.edu>
schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:

> 11   Houston                   73.476   3-1-0  67.823  (  7,  75.092)  -4

Just out of curiosity, how could Houston's 27-0 triumph over the
Chargers cause the Oilers to DROP 4 points in your rankings?

corby
From: billm@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Bill Maguire)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:16:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Raiders/Giants 4:00PM
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

    As a fellow Giant Fan, we might consider "punting" this season away.  I
    didn't see the game, Raiders vs Giants, except the hightlights of Mark
    Collins getting burned twice, once for a Touchdown ... If anyone saw the
    game or is a Raider Fan, would be more than happy to hear the hightlights.
    Speaking of "light's", I hate to admit it, but I don't think we're going 
    to see a lot of wins this year.  Maybe better luck next year with the
    draft ... By the way, being a Giant's fan, I'll still root for them and
    hope ...
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Rams
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:31:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.223121.23116@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.213924.22631@netcom.com>,
>mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>>I realize I'm dreaming, but I'd really like to see the Niners move
>>toward all-purpose DL personnel.

>What you are dreaming of is having the absolute best player in the
>league at every position.  Kind of tough to do, drafting at the end
>of the pile year after year.

Let me rephrase:  now that the Niners have a legit rushing game, DL
ought to be top priority.  And what I hope they focus on are players
that are more all-purpose than the current squad who can stuff the
run but are poor at the pass rush.

>I predict they'll be great in december when it counts and not as a
>response to 'problems' now.  All part of the plan.

It counts now, too.  The Lambs game could have gone the other way.

>>Actually, I think the real reason the Niners shine late in the year
>>is that their offense is so complex that they don't get into sync

>Their defense is just as complex and requires just as much
>synchronization(sp).  This is why Hall has been having so much
>trouble and why they brought back Jackson.

Why do you think their D is that complex?  It's a given that the
offensive game is as intricate as any in the league.  What evidence
do you have that the defense is any more complex than others?  Dana
Hall is probably more of an example of the tough transition to the
NFL in general, not to the Niners in particular.

>>for awhile.  If you look back on the Niners over the past decade,
>>their defense has been more consistent, while the offense sputters
>>early and turns into a December monster.  Last year was a great

>Here we disagree, Even in their best defensive years, the D has
>started slow, giving up lots more ground and points early in the
>season.  Also, even in the best defensive years, the D doesn't

This doesn't jive with my (fading) memory.  Do you have any
supporting stats?  (I admit I don't...)

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