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From: exurlsr@exu.ericsson.se (Robert Lightfoot, xt-dL, 0627)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida & Texas A&M
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:33:49 GMT
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Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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In article pwlf@lynx.unm.edu, jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>Miami is the greatest team of all time...they can beat Arizona 8-7.


Yea, now you don't even have to give us a hiesman, we will beat them!

Go Aggies
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Need spread information
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:58:08 GMT

I'm looking for point spreads (via Email) for the following games:

	Arizona State at Oregon
	Bowling Green at Central Michigan
	Nevada-Las Vegas at Pacific (*)
	Pittsburgh at Maryland
	San Jose State at Wyoming

I have no clue why the local paper would ignore a Pac-10 game (ASU-Oregon)
game involving a local team (SJSU-Wyoming).

(*) I already know Vegas doesn't do spreads for Nevada teams.  How about
    Atlantic City?
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: Marc.A.Echeveste.1@nd.edu (Marc Echeveste)
Subject: Re: FREE NOTRE DAME TICKETS AVAILABLE!!!!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University Of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:15:26 GMT

In article <vish-300992110519@129.74.37.197>, vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber
Yelsangikar) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Just kidding.  
> 
> Notre Dame 40
> Stanford   14
> --------------------- Go Reggie Brooks/Mirer/Bettis/Dubose
> 
> Vishwamber Yelsangikar
> Network Engineer.
> Notre Dame.
> 
> Go Bills!!!!
> Go Irish!!!!

Geesh, who'd ever fall for that one?  We all know that ND doesn't give
ANYTHING away for free... especially if it has any connection to football! 
I swear, the bookstore alone could pay off the Federal Budget Deficit...

Heh!

Notre Dame 35
Stanford 7

Marc Echeveste
DeBartolo Cluster
Notre Dame

Irish, Suns rule!
From: gt6249c@prism.gatech.EDU (The Corinthian)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Alabama vs La. Tech
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:33:38 GMT
Organization: Cracker Barrel



Final Score:    Alabama     13
                La. Tech     0


The Deuce is back!!

Unfortuately, so is our offense.   

Sigh.





Bin
gt6249c@prism.gatech.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma)
Subject: Re: MICH: 60 something HOUSTON:7
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:31:01 GMT

Well, I don't know if it was our 4th-string defense, but basically
they weren't playing run-n-shoot type defense.  The defensive
coordinator had the guys playing a standard 4-defensive back -defense
and they got burned on two long passes.  

They all got chewed out good on the side-lines by Lloyd though.

As far as the score,  it wasn't nearly that close.  Michigan sat on 
the ball the entire second half... Of course, what else do ya do 
when you're up 42-0.

			Eric Sybesma

-- 
Eric Sybesma
University of Michigan
sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu
sybesma@maize.engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rhouston@glacier.sim.es.com (Richard Houstan)
Subject: Re: Scripps Howard Heisman poll
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:51:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.231205.3833@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> ryan@pi.cs.fsu.edu (John Ryan) writes:

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   Here's the latest (9/23) Scripps Howard Heisman poll, a national poll
   of Heisman voters.  I got it from our local paper here in Tallahassee:

   Kordell Stewart, Colorado          7?????????


Where's Koy Detmer? 
Does anyone know if two brothers have ever won the Heisman?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ellis@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (steven lawrence ellis)
Subject: Buckeyes/Badgers!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:25:20 GMT

Do any non-biased people out there believe that Wisconsin can beat The Ohio
State University?  What is there record so far and who have they played?

Also, If anyone is interested in a Buckeye season ticket, send me email.

S. Ellis
From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: who FSU has never lost to/beaten
Keywords: also assorted ramblings
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:49:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


So, ND has never beaten FSU.  Hmmm, here's something for you 'Noles to chew
on: FSU is 0-7-1 lifetime against Georgia Tech.  Even an FSU win this year
will close the gap to just six.  Elsewhere we have.....
....a ND fan complaining about media bias?!?!?!?!?!
has the world gone crazy?  If the ND-Michigan tie is treated as a ND loss
there is good reason.  It has to do with spineless playcalling.  Lou Holtz
doing his impression of Pat "Tie" Dye and all that.  Alot of pollsters, and
fans for that matter, HATE it when teams play for a tie.  Not only that, but
Holtz didn't even play for tie, which would be taking an easy extra point rather
than going for a two point conversion after a TD.  Rather, he let the clock run
out and didn't make any SERIOUS attempts to methodically move the ball downfield
via his "Heisman contender" qb, "Heisman contender" rb, or "Heisman contender"w"   
wr.  If he'd just have attempted to get in FG range, it wouldn't have been so
bad.  But, one lame pass into 5 or 6 Michigan DB's on the last play is NOT
a serious attempt at getting into FG range.  Remember that this game was played
at NOTRE DAME and there were BOOS aplenty when time ran out.  Get out your 
video tapes of the game and replay them.  If you recorded sound with it, you
should hear the boos cascading down from the fans.  Even THEY were angry with
the playcalling.  Besides, if ND wins the rest of their games, there is NO WAY
they can be ignored by pollsters.  It can't happen.  ND with a 10-0-1 record
CERTAINLY deserves to be in the NC hunt.  It's just an 8-3 ND in the hunt that
would be unfair.  All right, I'm done, flame away.  :)
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Subject: Re: CNN/USA Today Poll for 10/4/92
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 11:38:59 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Distribution: na
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <81064@ut-emx.uucp>, reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
>The thing that bugs me the most is to see Clemson (2-2) and Florida (1-2)
>still in the poll when you have three undefeated teams (Hawaii, Kansas
>State, and Washington State).  

While I enjoy the acknowledgement....KansasSt is undefeated vs Montana,
Temple and NewMexicoSt.  And NMSU wants out of next year's game with
KSU.  These are not high powered teams.  I'd love to see KSU go undefeated,
but the real test is this Sat at Kansas, then at Colorado Oct24.  If KSU
beats them both, then definite top20 if not close to the top10.  But from
the 3home games I've seen, KSU is not that good.  I won't comment on Hawaii 
or WashSt.
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From: paasch@engr.cs.orst.edu (Bob Paasch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:26:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

In article <1992Oct3.025527.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra) writes:
>My prediction:
>	Miami 22, FSU 21
>
>The game will be a nail-biter to the end, and definitely will end in a
>one-pointer victory, hopefully for Miami's favor. Both are too much alike to
>make a realistic predition, hence my reasoning and bias toward Miami. ;)

Pretty good prediction. Congrats...

>
>Kicking game- Dale Prewitt sucks. I hope he can come through for Miami. As for
>FSU's kicker, I hope he sucks as well, or we'd be in serious trouble. ;)

He does (suck, that is) otherwise you would be ;^)


Bob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paulmc%radian@natinst.com (Paul Conditt)
Subject: Texas Tech vs. Texas A&M
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:56:57 GMT
Organization: Radian Corporation, Austin, Texas

I know this article is major flame-bait, but it's all done in the spirit
of a little friendly competition.  Plus, if Tech does happen to pull the
upset, I'm gonna have great fun gloating - something Red Raider fans don't
get to do a lot of! :)


Upset prediction/fantasy:

Texas Tech 34
Texas A&M  21

I don't really believe this will happen, but it very well could given
the following conditions:

1)  Tech scores early in the game and twice in the first half
2)  A&M doesn't "find" it's offense
3)  Robert Hall is able to escape the pressure that the A&M defensive line
will undoubtedly put on him.
4)  Robert Hall doesn't get flustered and try to do it all himself like
he did against OU
5)  Tech receivers actually CATCH the ball 
6)  Granger completes most of his passes to Tracy Saul

Tech has traditionally played the Ags very tough, even in College Station.
Tech has the offensive fire-power to beat a lot of teams if they will only
show up.  This is another classic case of which-team-is-going-to-show-up.
If the offense that scored 49 against Wyoming and 36 against Baylor comes
to the game, then maybe even though the defense isn't that strong, the
offense will score enough to allow for a few given-up touchdowns.

On a lighter note, one of the many things Tech has going for it over A&M is
that we have FEMALE cheerleaders who are MUCH better-looking than those
yell-leaders who look like they were just let out of the state hospital for
the game.  We also have a Masked Rider on a beautiful black horse instead
of a dog who barks incessantly. :) :)

And now for the required Aggie joke:  Do you know what they call good-looking
girls in College Station?  - Visitors.

OK, enough flame-bait.  This has been posted against my better judgement,
but I'm caught up in the spirit of the game.  I will be in College Station
this Saturday, so if anyone watches the game on Raycom, I'll be the one 
with my guns up!

 
Paul Conditt
Just a hacker at the
Radian, Corp.
Austin, TX - the most wonderful place in Texas!
even if the place is full of longhorns
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Rotten Rooster, 20 worst
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:02:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Oct6.220145.11088@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>> |> 
>> |> 	8. Kent State
>
>I think they're going by "Kent" now, thus joining other one

Somewhere it was written that the current administration thinks that
when everyone hears "Kent State", they automatically think back to 
those students who were shot back in 1970 or so.  They thought that
changing the name might change the "image", or some such thing.

>man teams such as "Oral Roberts" and "Sam Houston", but sans
>last name.  Probably so nobody can phone them.

Can't you just imagine the jokes if suddenly Oral Roberts 
University was simply referred to as "Oral?"

Argh.

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From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: LSU QBs?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:33:45 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

What's the deal with the LSU quarterbacks?  It seems as though Hallman
puts a new one in every week.  You'd think he'd give a player at
least a couple of games to settle in to the spot.

This has got to be putting on a strain on the O-line as well, with
a new snap count and cadence each week.

What's the word out of Baton Rouge?




Jim Thomas
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:41:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Sep28.165819.28850@cs.ucf.edu> tech@maitland.cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>
>Eric is obviously suffering from the football equivalent of penis
>envy. He also misses the point of Daring Dale's posting. I believe Dale
>...

In this newsgroup, it is not referred to as such.

It is referred to as "goober envy".

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peggy@gatech.edu (Margaret Simpson)
Subject: email address incorrect
Followup-To: peggy@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:13:10 GMT

I still need the  Illini score, but if you email it to me, please
use the address in the follow-up line (peggy@cc.gatech.edu) as
my machine seems to be generating incorrect reply addresses.

Thanks,-- Peggy!


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From: garbe@smith.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 14:22:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: garbe@smith.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada


|> The point of all this ranting and raving is this. Florida...southern football
|> in general..._IS_ the football of today. We not only have the fastest and most
|> talented players on the whole...but we possess the highest level of 
|> competition around. Granted, Washington does have a good team...with lots of
|> size and speed.  But get real, until they get a competitive schedule they just
|> cant match up with the big boys here in the south. It is just one of those
|> things where you just have to see it to believe it...I look forward to an
|> undefeated UCLA season so that Washington can finally get a chance to play a 
|> real opponent (not from the big fat...er 10) like ND, Miami, FSU...etc. I 
|> think that would give a definite answer to the question of who plays better 
|> ball. The south of course.
|> 
|> Kevin.
|> 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> When asked why I chose to come to FSU, I paused and thoght for a moment. At
|> last I spoke, "Well, it ain't Michigan."
|> 
|> 

 I would like to remind all of those Floridians that the Huskies have indeed played a
Florida team in the recent past.  It was in the 1989 Freedom in which UW man handled
Florida, winning something like 35-7 (Sorry I don't have the score here).  They also held
Florida tailback Emmitt Smith to under 20 yards rushing.  So now lets here all of the 
excuses from you guys on how this game did really show anything.

Lux Site

Greg Garbe

garbe@phys.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:38:20 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Oct6.160218.25529@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:

| 
| For those of you who don't think Bowden sucks, let me educate you.
| 
| 
| But this is all trivial. Bowden will never win the NC, and I'll tell you why.
| The man has never, and probably will never, put together a complete package
| here at FSU. By that I mean a solid defense, powerfull offense, and a good
| kicking game. In almost every year that Bowden has coached here at least one
| of those elements has been missing from our game.

First of all it's hard to win a NC.  The Big10 conference hasn't won a NC
in 30 years, since Ohio State won in 1962.  Most coachs will never even
get close to a NC.  Bobby Bowden has the 2nd Best record in the last
five or six years in football.  For five straight seasons the Noles have
finished no worse than #4.  Bobby has got the Noles down to the last kick,
last year that turned into " Wide Right #1 ".  What do you want him to
do, kick the ball himself.  FSU has never got into major NCAA violation,
under Bobby.   Still year in and year out,  Bobby takes it down to one
play.

Bobby has one thing that has killed his NC, that is Miami.  Miami is
81-6 in the last 7.2 years.  Two of those six came from FSU.  Gino
Torretta has only lost one game at Miami to FSU.  FSU could have won
that NC, if they had only taken Miami off the schedule like Florida did.
Bobby Bowden and FSU doesn't run away from any team.  Bobby Bowden
is one of the top 5 coachs in the game, and has more respect than any
one else in the game.

Bobby Bowden may never win his NC, but he will be inducted into the
College Football Hall of Fame.  Bobby Bowden name will sit beside the
other legends in football Knute Rockne, Ara Parseghian, Bear Bryant ,
Bud Wilkinson and yes JoePa (if he ever quits).



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Miami - ND let's get on with other stuff
Followup-To: art. 8149 from Peter Szymanski
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 18:44:25 GMT


In article <Bv2HCx.Dov@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes: 
    .... stuff deleted....
|> 
|> We were having a good net.flame war.   It's started over a small comment
|> that ND has beat Miami 2 out of the last three times.  Which is true,
|> very selective years but true.  This is the most active thread on rsfc,
|> and it's football season.  ND and Miami each hate each other.   The funny
|> thing is with the new bowl system, and UW closing the gap in the AP, Miami
|> needs ND to win now.  So, now I have to hope ND gets back in the top 3. :-(
|> When you play for the NC, it makes for stranges allies.
|> 
|> EOT, for now.
|> 
|> 

>So the truth finally comes out from one of the loyal canes followers, Miami needs
>ND to lend respectability to itself :^)

>Peter

The Canes do not need anyone in order to gain respectability, our respectability
comes when our team steps on the field. Don't fool yourself and over emphasize
ND's importance or lack of it. In case you haven't noticed we currently have an
unblemished won loss record this year ie. NO TIES. If you want respectability
have your AD schedule the Canes next year, we some open dates. Then let's see
who is respectable and who is vanquished. Personnally I don't think a team with
a TIE is a worthy Canes opponent this year in a major bowl game. I'd prefer someone
with a perfect UNBLEMISHED record like the Huskies. The Canes play ND this year?
Ha your not worth the effort.

John T.

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From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: Home field advantage... (was: what a game)
Keywords: Tech-NCSU
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:03:39 GMT

>>Yeah, the home field advantage.  Watch the reply, they showed it here
>>in slow-mo.  The guy catches the ball with 2 seconds left and magically,
>>the clock stops with 1 second left BEFORE the ref waves his arms to stop
>>the clock.  Anywhere else time would've run out......
>>-- 
>>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.

>If you watch the replay you'll notice that his knee was down with at
>least 2 seconds left on the clock.  Since it was a first down the 
>clock should have stopped then.

Yes, but it's the official's job to stop the clock on a first down not the 
scoreboard operator's.  The clock stopped, the official came running in to 
spot the ball, and then he waved his hands to stop the clock.  Of course, 
someone back up the field could have called time out and another official 
stopped the clock, but we'll probably never know...

GT
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami - ND (once again)
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:38:44 GMT

<5575@news.duke.edu>
ds4@soc11.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)

> Hmmmm...Karl, at least the 'evil' Miami fans never rushed onto the field to
> attack the Miami players....'88 was it.

Hmmm...

Notre Dame beats #1 Miami in a heart stopper, 31-30, and the fans rush
the field to a) express sheer joy at winning the season's most
                anticipated game.
             b) congratulate the Irish players and (a)
             c) tear down the goal posts and (a)
             d) attempt to violently maim a beaten Miami football team

I think the obvious answer is (d).  After all, what else is there
to do after a great football victory except to maim and kill?

I can say this Dimitris, you do bring an interesting perspective
to college athletics.  You aren't, perchance, a fan of English
soccer, are you?

-Mike Noonan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:48:27 EDT
From: <AMM1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: LSU QBs?

Hallman better get his act together or Joe Dean will do to him
what he did to Mike Archer. ( SCREW HIM )
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Gators vs MSU
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:03:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.124952.19054@afit.af.mil> tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden) writes:
>
>Can I possibly consume 12 Miller Lites in
>three hours?

    Sure, it's like making love in a canoe after all.  But why not
leisurely consume 2 Guinness stouts and do the same thing with the
added benefit of taste thrown in?

>Need news from somebody down south.

    That should be all the news you need.  Of course, you could try
12 Guinness' and then you wouldn't care who won.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
It's as pertinent as many of the postings I've read lately
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