From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: Bill's Billy, Roger (was Re: Some anonymous posts)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:42:01 GMT

cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti) writes:


>In a previous article, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) says:

>>homer@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Homer Smith) writes:
>>
>>>     Given the drug for free, they again regained their self respect,
>>>GOT BACK TO FUCKING WORK ADDING TO THE GNP RATHER THAN DETRACTING FROM
>>>IT, were not tempted to over do the drug to distraction because
>>>were not charging themselves up with a secret shameful life, and
>>>they could talk openly with others like them about their problem.
>>
>>	Or back on welfare, sucking from the GNP.  On Discovery or 
>>something I recently watched a show on the doleing out of smack 
>>methadone and coke to junkies in England, and I believe it had some
>>of the same footage as the 60 min show.  What 60 min lacked however,
>>as it would have been found distasteful to their vewiers, I imagine,
>>was an interview with a family on welfare and smack.  They picked up
>>both their drugs and their money courtesy of the English taxpayer, and
>>there was a short segment of them in their welfare complex with their
>>children in the backround and gross looking ma and pa talking about how 
>>they haven't worked in years.    Free rent, free money, free smack -why 
>>should they?

>>
>>Jim Del Vecchio
>>
>>Followup-To set to talk.politics.drugs
>>
>P.
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>  It's kiss or kill" - X

Humm .... I wonder then why there is more people on welfare per capita here
than in Great Britain and at least 10 times more violent crime here than
there. Why do some people worry so much about not getting their fair share
of the pie (actually having to give less than 1 percent of your income too
those lazy poor people). We should all hate them like Rush Limbaugh. (-:

Seriously though when one considers the social and economic costs we have
been paying for drug prohibition, underfunded education, and the whole
military industrial complex thing the total cost of the welfare budget
seems to me to pale in insignificance. My mother's father died when she
was about 2 years old. Her mother raised 2 small children in Utah. In the
winter she remembers not having coal to heat the house or have warm water
to bathe in. They often lived on bread and milk but they survived.
Fortunately the democrats were in power at the time.

Drugs don't cause people to go on welfare. They're the symptom - not the
problem. If this were not true how could the rest of us partake and still
lead reasonably normal lives. O.K some people have a "disease" that causes
them (through no fault of their own of course and independant of any other
problems they might have in their lives) to lose control of all body
function and rationality if drugs are involved. BTW if this is true why
is it a crime to use any drug? 

I say (impending flames not withstanding) irresponsible drug use would decline
significantly if we really seriously addressed some other problems in this
society. Giving those unfortunate enough to be stuck in a bad place enough
help so that they have a chance to get out strikes me as a good place to
start. Every other developed country in the world does this better than the
U.S.

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