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From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Subject: Schmidt Computer Predictions for weekend of 5-Sep
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:54:33 GMT

What follows are the Schmidt Computer predictions for this weekend.  All
the games between Div. I-A teams are included.

Illinois              31 over    Northern_Illinois
Tennessee             29 over         SW_Louisiana
Penn_State            29 over           Cincinnati
Florida_State         26 over                 Duke
Colorado              26 over       Colorado_State
Ohio_State            25 over           Louisville
Nebraska              24 over                 Utah
Notre_Dame            24 over         Northwestern
Pittsburgh            24 over                 Kent
Clemson               22 over           Ball_State
Washington            22 over        Arizona_State
California            21 over       San_Jose_State
Toledo                20 over       Arkansas_State
Virginia              19 over             Maryland
Alabama               17 over           Vanderbilt
TCU                   17 over           New_Mexico
Kansas                16 over         Oregon_State
Fresno_State          15 over              Pacific
Baylor                15 over       Louisiana_Tech
Texas_A&M             14 over                  LSU
Iowa_State            14 over      Ohio_University
Bowling_Green         14 over     Western_Michigan
Miami(Fla)            14 over                 Iowa
BYU                   13 over                 UTEP
Oklahoma              13 over           Texas_Tech
North_Carolina        13 over          Wake_Forest
Arizona               10 over           Utah_State
Air_Force             10 over                 Rice
Boston_College         9 over              Rutgers
West_Virginia          8 over          Miami(Ohio)
Georgia                7 over       South_Carolina
Oregon                 7 over               Hawaii
Eastern_Michigan       6 over                Akron
Memphis_State          5 over Southern_Mississippi
Kentucky               5 over     Central_Michigan
Nevada                 4 over              Wyoming
USC                    4 over      San_Diego_State
SMU                    4 over               Tulane
Tulsa                  3 over              Houston
Syracuse               3 over        East_Carolina
Texas                  1 over    Mississippi_State
Auburn                 1 over          Mississippi

Kevin
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 02:39:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <ladeo5INN521@alnitak.usc.edu> dnoble@alnitak.usc.edu (Douglas Noble) writes:

>The 66-0 score for USC-Cal is accurate.

Not in '83, at least according to another poster.  The only 66-0 mauling
I remember Cal getting came from 'Bama in the very early '70s.

Cal did lose 60-7 in '80, as another poster mentioned.  Considering the
disparate emphasis put on athletics by these two schools, the wonder is
that it hasn't happened more often...
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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: R.S.F.C Football Poll
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:42:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Isn't anyone doing a poll this year?  I saw a posting a week
and a half ago, but nothing since.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: brown-d@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (david wayne brown)
Subject: Re: My SEC Predictions
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:16:54 GMT

<Pre - LSU stuff deleted>
>LSU - Curly Hallman is one of the best Coaches in the SEC if not the nation.  If 
>they can win their opener, look out!  A big plus for them is Bama and Tennessee
>at home.

Not really for the last 20 years or so, LSU has had more luck beating Alabama 
in away games..they haven't won in Baton Rouge since the 60's


Dave Brown
From: sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt)
Subject: ND Schedules
Summary: 1993-1997
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:28:59 GMT


Since there has been discussion on ND schedules, here they are from 1993 to 
1997.  From Blue and Gold Illustrated:

1993                                1994
S4    NORTHWESTERN                  S3    northwestern
S11   michigan                      S10   MICHIGAN
S18   MICH. STATE                   S17   michigan state
S25   purdue                        S24   PURDUE
O2    stanford                      O1    STANFORD
O9    PITT                          O8    boston college
O16   byu                           O15   BYU
O23   USC                           O29   NAVY
O30   navy                          N12   florida state
N13   FLORIDA STATE                 N19   AIR FORCE
N20   BOSTON COLLEGE                N26   usc

1995                                1996
S2   NORTHWESTERN                   S7    vanderbilt
S9   purdue                         S14   PURDUE
S16  VANDERBILT                     S21   texas
S23  TEXAS                          S28   OHIO STATE
S30  ohio state                     O12   WASHINGTON
O7   washington                     O19   AIR FORCE
O14  army                           O26   RUTGERS
O21  USC                            N2    navy
O28  BOSTON COLLEGE                 N9    boston college
N4   NAVY                           N16   PITTSBURGH
N18  air force                      N30   usc

1997
S6   MIAMI(OHIO)
S13  purdue
S20  MICH.STATE
S27  michigan
O4   stanford
O11  pittsburgh
O18  USC
O25  BOSTON COLLEGE
N1   NAVY
N15  lsu
N22  WEST VIRGINIA



Home games in caps!
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From: ohmann@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas)
Subject: Re: TOP 10 TEAMS: WHO HAS THE EASIEST SCHEDULE? 
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:36:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.214358.21420@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
|> 
|> 	In the Top 10 teams, who has the easiest schedule? 
|> 	UW?
|> 	Texas A&M?
|> 	FSU?
|> 


C'mon now.

To even suggest that FSU has an easy schedule tells me your out of touch.
Year after year FSU plays 4 or 5 big teams, including Miami and Florida.
None of that "Whimp your way to the Championship stuff" for them!

Maybe you don't think the ACC is tough this year?
Clemson, NC State, Virginia, Ga Tech,...

FSU Should more likely be on the "Top 10 Toughest Schedule" list.

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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: cmuck's trip...
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:11:40 GMT

>  Well, here is the latest National Weather Service Report, just a few
>minutes old (as far as the site I got it off).  And, I might add, I'm
>doing this NOT because I feel sorry for you going out to Anaheim,
>Disneyland, having to spend the night under the stars, you LUCKY DOG.  
>

The weather looks great for chopping trees, thanx!


cmuck

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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Tired of UT fans?
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:43:38 GMT

I wrote:
: >You know, agriculture -> aggies -> farmers -> pitch forks -> gig 'em.
: >
: >(Yeah, I'll admit its a reach...)
 
CJohn Mace (zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp) wrote:
: wrong path...  Horned *FROGS* -> old rivalry -> gig the frogs -> gig 'em.
: the term gig'em comes from the rivalry with TCU, there is a story behind
: it.  When I move my stuff down here from College Station, I will try and
: locate my Enroll and post the story...

Gee, and I thought the name of that book was "Why I Learned Everything I
Need To Know in Fish Camp".  They never told me that one, though.  Guess
I'll have to toss that book on the bonfire along with the trees and
kitty cats.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE BEAT THE HUSKIES?
Keywords: huskies
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:15:24 GMT


	Just rearrange your words:

	ANYONE CAN BEAT THE HUSKIES!

	This is the answer.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:43:20 GMT

William Mangione-Smith writes:

>Dubose got a 25k car loan, no money down and no payments for one year, when
>the whole sum comes do immediately.  He is reported to have said that that he
>will pay it off with his salary from the NFL.  I don't know if this is
>*right* or *wrong* in an absolute sence, but it is absolutely clear to be a
>violation of both the letter and spirt of the NCAA rules.  Given that, and
>the allegations of the earlier high school loan, I thought the penalty was an
>amazingly light slap.

Without the facts, it is really impossible to form a meaningful oppinion on 
whether or not DuBose' loan was an absolutely clear violation.  There has a 
great deal of indication that the reports in the press have contained errors.  
But you can bet that the NCAA investigators actually saw the terms of the loan.
In their oppinion, the penalty was warranted as it was handed down.  However, 
there seems to be an attitude in some elements of the press that focus on 
certain "facts" in order to make Notre Dame look as bad as possible.  
(Arguably, Notre Dame brings this on itself.)  But to take the rumors printed 
in the press as more than simply hearsay is a big mistake.

>And yes, according to the NCAA, all players expecting "big bucks" from the
>NFL and using that to their immediate financial advantage should, and
>probably will, be suspended.

I have known numerous persons who sign loans for cars before beginning jobs
after graduation.  To say that scholarship atheletes can not do this is to
penalize them for their atheletic ability.  I don't think the NCAA should be
doing that.

Let's face it - the NCAA takes itself far too seriously anyhow.  When special 
exceptions to rules must be granted to allow atheletes to have Thanksgiving 
dinner with their families, something is amiss.

     - Pat
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From: hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.football.college, delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:

-> When it comes to Virginia,I have never seen a more obnoxious bunch of idiots
-> ever rub in a win so much every year as Virginia. Because the Virginia
-> marching band decided to publicly ridicule another school, they got what
-> was coming to them. Thomas Jefferson would be embarassed if he were alive.

Amen, brother.  By the way, what exactly happened to the Fahoo 'band'
that they had coming to them?

Steve Hambric (hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Date: 1 Sep 1992 07:23:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug31.183908.23228@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>William F. Tell (wft@soda.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>: I couldn't believe that at all.  Clemson ranked higher than Cal?  Excuse
>: me, but didn't Cal destroy Clemson in the Citrus Bowl 37-13?   
>
>Uh, let's see...  The poll in question was for *this* season?  The bowl
>game mentioned was played *last* season?

Ah, but shouldn't the last game played by a team be considered one of the
better indicators for a team's success?  

To be honest, I think the best "poll" is the New York Times Computer.
Yes, it is an East Coast newspaper, but it takes into account a lot
of other factors, and the NYT waits a few weeks into the season before
making its rankings.  That makes things a lot fairer to teams that
don't have the ECMB (tm) working for them.

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Kickoff classic Iowa-NCSU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.185917.17818@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>In article <3134.382.uupcb@brent.uucp> al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo)  writes:
>>Prediction: The Big 10 hasn't had a great out of conference record and
>>NC state always seems to play everyone tough. NCSU 21-20.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Like they play Virginia?
>
>Iowa by 7.
>
>Njan

Well, Njan, ill take it even further. Iowa is a big time program, whereas
NCSU is an Acc upstart. When was the last time an NCSU regular season game
was on national television? I think NCSU will be much much more freaked out
by the situation than Iowa.

Iowa by 27, maybe more.

Remember when Virginia was an upstart team, bursting with optimism, and 
playing Notre Dame in the KC? That was the most lopsided game Id ever seen.
While I think the difference in talent between the two schools is not as
great as it was in 1989, the situation will be similar, and Iowa will win
handily.

-rob


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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Transitivity (was Re: SI Preseason Top 20)
Organization: University of Michigan
	<Btv3tM.Hsy@news.larc.nasa.gov> <17v6b1INNgv2@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:12:22 GMT

In article <17v6b1INNgv2@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

   >
   >And Washington is not in California, and its questionable
   >if Michigan really benefits from the ECMB.

   Michigan is in the Eastern Time Zone.  They get help from it.  Cal
   played Washington down to the wire.  Michigan was romped by U-Dub.
   Who's the better team?  

Transitivity Law, huh?  Can't wait until something weird happens by the 4'th
weekend that lets you tell us that Pacific is clearly the #1 team.

Bill

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From: steve@nova.eng.wayne.edu (Steve Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Schembechler Syndrome
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:42:16 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Center

But I thought it was every fan's duty to woof and whine!  :)

Seriously though, I think that comes from the Michigan fan's perception that
it "happens to us more often," which may or may not be true.  What is true is
that the average Michigan fan is quite frustrated about seeing their football
team get beat at the worst possible time each year (possibly the best example
is the 1986 Minnesota game --  Lohmiller beats the 9-0 Wolverines).

However, I think it's important to point out that Michigan fans never got
lucky enough (even in the '89 Final Four) to begin saying that God is the
reason why they're on top, unlike... well, you know the rest.

I am in strong support of the separation of church and football.  Couldn't
a fundamentalist see "God made the [school reference deleted] #1" as
blasphemous?  Just a thought.
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From: gunner1+@pitt.edu (Jayant Rajgopal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND football was Re: IOWA FALLS 14-24
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:13:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep4.143510.27705@ncsu.edu> currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN) writes:
>
>Nothing to add  here just wanted to change the subject line to reflect the 
>thread.
>RC

Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you !  May you live many years and father many
children !  As a loyal Iowa fan I keep tuning into anything with the word
"Iowa" in the title line, and guess what it's really about...

As another guy put it, as long as we have these jokers from ND and Miami
and Michigan there won't be any dearth of net.traffic.

--jr--
From: patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Fry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: Hayden Fry,Iowa,head,retractable
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:01:53 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Is it true that Hayden Fry has a retractable head?
 
Love,
Xenu
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Correction about '87 FSU-Miami game
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <BtnJyG.Cp1@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.210311.3307@spss.com>, nichols@spss.com (David Nichols) writes...
>#A recent post somewhat misstated the Miami comeback against FSU in
>#'87. That is, they were not down by as much as claimed going into the
>#fourth quarter, and they didn't score 20 unanswered points.
>I assume you are talking about my post.  If that is the case, you are wrong
>on both counts:  Miami *was* down as much as I claimed they were and Miami
>*did* score 20+ unanswered points.

It is true. I won't soon forget that day. Sitting at Steve's house,
swilling beers, so sure that the game was already won, that we were
about to stick Motel Hell into the VCR. Of course that complacency soon
evaporate as Dedrick Dodge (db) blew two coverages and allow Irvin to
score those two long TDs.

Just one of the reasons why FSU will NEVER beat Miami again...

(whine, whine, cringe, cringe)

>I might be willing to give you 26-0, but I don't think that FSU would have
>scored 31.  The Miami defense was doing pretty well that day except that

FSU still could have won the game, even allowing those 3 TDs. PK Derrick
Schmidt (once all-time NCAA scorer, I think he's been surpassed since,
probably by Carlos Huerta or some other asshole from Miami) missed two
FGs and two PATs in that game. With those 8 points, FSU would have
scored 33 points, which *may* have been enough of a lead to contain the
Miami comeback. A truely horrible football game.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jli@starless.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: BYU: THE MOST HATED SCHOOL IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL 
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Distribution: USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:19:15 GMT


	The article by a Sports Illustrated journalist can be found in:

	1. the latest Sports Illustrated College Football Edition.
	2. the Salt Lake Tribune (8/26/92)


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: atchison@shaggyman.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Shameless OSU woofing enclosed
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:55:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.140421.13431@cs.wayne.edu> steve@nova.eng.wayne.edu (Steve Phillips) writes:
>Hmm.. 31-0, was it?  That'd barely make up for last year.
>
>Last time they played down there, God-to-be John Cooper elected to go for it
>on his own 35, fourth-and-two, with 2:00 left, and a tie score.  As it turned
>out, a tie would have sent them to the Rose Bowl, I believe. But we all recall
>what happened, don't we?           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
>

Nope.  Win for the Roses.  Tie no Roses.  The decision to go for it has never
been questioned by any sane Buck fans.  The choice of a Greg Frey option over
a sneak or Scottie Graham dive was, however, nearly the cause of a hangin'.

GO BUCKS!!!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football,rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.football.pro
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:14:07 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Aug27.151107.29917@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:
> 
> and don't forget the bad call by the ref's giving A&M an interception on a 
> play that had both pass interference and an interception after the
> ball clearly bounced off the ground.  It certainly broke A&M's string   
> of starting with poor field position in the 2nd half.
> 
> John L

I didn't see the game, it wasn't carried in my area (grrr).  I did see a
replay of the above-mentioned play on ESPN.  I realize that I saw the play
out of context of the game, but I wonder:

- If this play had been called correctly, would Stanford have won?

Just curious,
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Ditka 143, A&M 0 (was: Re: A&M vs. Stanford)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:56:30 GMT

In article <randall.715020663@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) writes:
>
>>In article <10465@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>
>>4) Bill Walsh will beat Texas A&M by three touchdowns.
>>   It is not clear if he meant Stanford will defeat A&M by three TDs, or
>>   if Bill Walsh will do so alone.
>
>Now, I agree that Bill Walsh could probably play A&M alone and
>do like OK.   But if ya put Ditka in there, den it wouldda been
>a slaughter.  

yeah, I agree.. The guy is too old.

>Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 

Njan