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From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: General Interest
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC

Index Number: 24028

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Kathleen!

14 Aug 92, Kathleen Mcintosh writes to Shelby Sherman:

 KM> I can tell you some things about releiving cancer pain as I an
 KM> expert at it.  Narcotics work pretty good and you don't have to worry
 KM> about addiction because the brain uses them differently when taken for
 KM> pain as for say, recreational use.
 KM> It's also an interesting fact
 KM> that non-steriodals like ibuprofen can be just as effective as narcotics.
 KM> The key here is to take the drugs on a regular schedule.  I used to get up
 KM> in the middle of the night to take them so I would'nt wake up in pain.  If
 KM> you wait to take your meds until you're hurting, it will take longer for
 KM> pain relief, and it won't last as long.

I just wanted to add one thing to your comments (which were overall
very good about the management of cancer pain).  The way you
phrased your reply, it would suggest completely substituting a
non-steroidal like ibuprofen for narcotics. While this may work for
some people, for many with severe cancer pain, the non-steroidal
alone will not be sufficient.  The non-steroidal medications work
on pain in a different way and at a different site in the body than
narcotic medications do.  For this reason, the COMBINATION of both
non-steroidal medications and narcotics is an especially good
approach to management of cancer pain.  One medication interferes
with the pain pathway at one point, then the other interferes
further at another point.  An added benefit from this dual approach
is that the pain can be relieved by lower doses of each drug than
would be needed if only one or the other was used alone.  This
lower dosage, in turn, helps minimize any side effect from the
drug.

Arthur

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From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Transportation
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:55:32 GMT
Reply-To: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24306

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 TA>     I'm looking into purchasing a van and there are
 TA> somethings I want advice on. I need to know which
 TA> would be better, lowering the floor or putting on a
 TA> higher roof. Which van would be best a Chevy or a
 TA> Ford. And where would the lift on the van best work
 TA> on the side or in the back.

Well, if you want to drop the floor, the Ford is the only van you
can that to, so I am told(folks, if I am wrong, jump in).  And I
thing that the 1992 ford has been redesigned so that may be a
problem.  I also read that wit the 92's ford requires conversion
companies to get permision from Ford to chop the roof and add
raised tops(to insure support in a roll over, so I am told).

But I like the looks of the new Ford.  Go with a side lift,
especially if you have to parallel park.  This allows you to still
have a back seat.  If a wide parking space isn't provided, make one
by angle parking so your lift doesn't get blocked.

BTW, I also have been told that a lower floor is expensive,
compared to a raised roof, but I may be wrong on that.

Good luck,
Regards, John

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Fried Death !!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24322

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Joe Chamberlain <20 Aug 92 20:57> Curtis Oglesby wrote:

 CO> How many uti do you avg each year?  Does the large dose of
 CO> vitamin C bother your stomach?  If so, this may help avoid
 CO> building a tolerance to the antibiotics but wouldn't help my

I run a low grade infection all the time and maybe 2-3 times a year
it develops in a infection with fever. I take the vitimin C on a
full stomach either at lunch or dinner and it doesn't bother me.
Pastrami and raw onion with brown mustard bothers me.

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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Screen Reader
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:35:42 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24170

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Gary,

I'm replying to your post directly just in case you missed my other
messages about a demo.  There's no official word on when or even if
a demo of Screen Reader will be available.  It is being discussed
internally, but right now everyone is very busy getting the product
ready for release, so I can't make any promises.  There are a lot
of concerns that have to hashed over before a demo can be
considered.  David Tanner pointed out two very good ones, and there
are others.  I've got some ideas about how to build a demo, and
I'll keep you posted as to what's going on inside IBM.

/Greg

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From: Val.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Val Dunn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: laughter
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: Val.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/337 - Yak Attack BBS, La Mesa CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 24343

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

I had a incident a couple of weeks ago.  I had a gentleman who works in
my building come in with his wife who is a bk amp like me and he wanted
me to show her my leg and ankle.
I took the leg off and was demonstrating the ankle and wieght and stuff
while I was sitting on my desk.
I got excited and jumped off the desk and took a step forward....
in the 3 seconds it took for me to fall down I realized my leg was in my
hand...  I actually forgot  I had taken the leg off and remember
thinking "Damn this is going to hurt"

My boss really has a sick sense of humor, that I adore.  She  told me
today I get to do the "Safety Training" class this month.  Since there
is one other amp in my office I told her only he was qualified to attend
the lecture.... Lord she is a snot.

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From: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org (Kathleen Mcintosh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Chest/Rib Cage Pain
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:18:36 GMT
Reply-To: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:264/181 - Les's Corner BBS, Richmond VA

Index Number: 24347

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 [BD]
 [BD] Nearly 3 years ago I began having upper chest pains that
 [BD] shot across the top of my rib cage.  It made me nervous
Bob, I also have chest pains due to stress.  I think smoking a lot
makes the problem worse.  Have you tried any relaxation techniques?
I reccomend the book "The Relaxation Response" by somebody Benson.
I saw it recently at a Dalton's Bookstore.  They also had audio
tapes to guide one through relaxation.  If you can afford it,
biofeedback is really excellent.  It was the best thing I did to
controll my stress.  Good luck.
                                Kathleen

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From: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Whitney)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Text Scan/read For V
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:23:10 GMT
Reply-To: Frank.Whitney@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD

Index Number: 24052

DB>I use a system from Arkenstone and it incorporates a HP Scan Jet Plus, and a
DB>card that I think comes from Calera.  Arkenstone writes the software and
DB>markets the product through nationwide delers and what you can do is call
DB>Arkenstone to locate a deler.  Call (west coast time) 1-800-444-4443.  This

I'm putting together a system for a show piece of alternate input and
output devices. Do you know of a way I can interface a HP ScanJet IIP
and the Arkenstone model S reader WITHOUT using windows?
Frank.
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From: ldonovan@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Donovan)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: power wheelchair for sale
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: ldonovan@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Donovan)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Index Number: 24082

POWER WHEELCHAIR FOR SALE

Used Everest & Jennings Marathon power wheelchair.  Excellent condition,
recently "tuned up." new upholstery, solid back and seat, almost new
batteries.  Would be great first power chair or backup chair.  Willing to
discuss delivery in Pacific Northwest.  New would cost around $6,000;
asking $2600 or best offer.  Must sell by Sept. 19 when I move out of
state.  If interested, e-mail ldonovan@u.washington.edu or phone
206-246-2986.
From: Pandora.Nigh@f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Pandora Nigh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Medical Insurance Questions/Woes
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:53:09 GMT
Reply-To: Pandora.Nigh@f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/554 - Analytical Engine B, Willoughby OH

Index Number: 24104

Hi Shoshana, you don't say how old your niece is. If she is under
18 she can have the Clinic bill and other specialized treatment
picked up by the state of Ohio Buearo of Crippled Children. They
cover treatment of children with permenently disabling conditions.
Her mom will have to fill out an application form and from they the
proccess and should haher med expsenses. don't have their number
readily available but will get back to you as soon as I can. If you
are in a real hurry call first call for help in Cleveland they are
listed and can give you the phone number.

                                     Pandora

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From: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: tdd directory
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:24:51 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24270

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

* While Looking For Words Of Wisdom From All, Peter "deafy" Haskins Scribed:
PH  Will each Major City Deaf Residents in each state pls
PH  provide us
PH  some information below:

PH  1. TDD nbrs for all Deaf organizations?
PH  2. TDD nbrs for all Relay Services ?
PH  3. TDD nbrs for all Emergency agencies such like Police,
PH  Fire, Ambulance,FBI, Sheriff's office etc
PH  4. TDD nbrs for all Emergency Rooms in all hospitals
PH  5. TDD nbrs for all lawyers's
PH  6. TDD nbrs for all Counselling to the Deaf
PH  7. TDD nbrs for AAA, any Motor Associations etc
PH  8. TDD nbrs for any business firms that serve the Deaf
PH  9.TDD nbrs for Airlines, Trains, Buses, etc and any
PH  transpoaration such like Transporation for Handicapped etc
PH  10. TDD nbrs for all Public Transits
PH  11. TDD nbrs for all State Government offices and including
PH  Federal Government offices
PH  12. TDD nbrs for all Interpreters services
PH  13. TDD nbrs for all Deaf Schools, college, university and
PH  Tech schools etc.
PH  14. TDD nbrs for all Recreation , Travellers Info centers
PH  etc

Peter,

Have you heard of the 1992 INTERNATIONAL DIRECTORY FOR TEXT
TELEPHONE USERS, published by Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc.?

It has numbers in every state, Canada and other countries for relay
services, businesses, educational services, financial services,
interpreting services, etc., etc., in addition to residential
numbers and addresses of deaf people.

It would seem to be a duplication of effort to compile one when one
already exists.  This directory is growing bigger each year.

You can obtain it from Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc.
                       8719 Colesville Road, Suite 300
                       Silver Spring, Maryland 20910

                       301-589-3006 (tdd)
                       301-589-3786 (voice)
                       301-589-3797 (fax)
                       301-589-0382 (T/V)

for $20.00.

They publish a newsletter that comes out quarterly and is called
GA-SK.  Membership for the newsletters, directory and your own
listing in the directory is an annual fee of $15.00.

Karen
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From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Shhh Report
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:19:56 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24133

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 AS> SHHH has a lot of deaf members, so it is not just for the
 AS> hard of hearing.

Quite true, including many like you who were born deaf.  Even
some whose first language was ASL.

 AS> In fact, there are a lot of HoH folks who are more deaf
 AS> than they are HoH.

I have deaf friends, even DEAF friends, who have better audiograms
than I have.  But I'm not deaf - I'm hearing impaired or hard of
hearing.  (Hmmm, maybe I'm still in denial :-)

I believe everyone has the right to "label" themselves however
they wish.  The principal distinction that I see in SHHH members
is that, whatever their hearing loss, they choose to remain part
of the hearing world.  They're NOT cultists.

 AS> I don't mean to sound tacky, just being realistic and honest.

Me too!

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From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Hello There
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/123 - The General Alarm, La Mesa

Index Number: 24056

*** Quoting Thomas Sallaway to Helen Peagram ***

TS> next week is my soc. sec court hearing and will be glad when it
TS> is over with.

Wishing you the very best of luck with that hearing.  I had mine
last November and received the POSITIVE decision in January.
Nineteen months from date of first application to receiving that
court decision, and about three more weeks for them to figure
out the retroactive payments and send the first check.

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From: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Transportation
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:21:35 GMT
Reply-To: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24265

In article <24244@handicap.news>, Tony.Albritton@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org
writes...
>Index Number: 24244
>
>I'm looking into purchasing a van and there are somethings I want
>advice on. I need to know which would be better, lowering the floor
>or putting on a higher roof. Which van would be best a Chevy or a
>Ford. And where would the lift on the van best work on the side or
>in the back.

Here's a summary of my recent, but limited experience.  Both Chevy and
Ford make high quality full size vans.  At the time I purchased, Ford
was offering a better initial configuration, ie. they sell a custom
package that is stripped of all interior equipment, including drivers
seats (they supply a disposable plastic seat to drive it from the
dealer to the garage).  If you are buying used, this won't be a
consideration.  Another concern is driving habits.  If you
are afraid of parallel parking with a van, and avoid it whenever
possible, you will probably want a lift mounted in the back of the
van.  It is harder for people to park you in when you park head in
to a standard spot and you are less contrained in the absence of wide
hadicapped spaces.  With a rear lift, a raised roof is preferable in
order to avoid interfering with the rear wheel drive train.  Another
concern might be garage access.  If you frequently park in parking
garages, or have a low ceiling in a home garage, you don't want to
raise the roof.  Unless you have a long garage, rear lifts may not
allow parking in a garage at home.  If you park outside all the time,
in rain, sleet and snow, raising a roof is usually less expensive.
In case it isn't obvious yet, there is no one best answer for all
situations.  If you want useful advise, tell us more about your
situation and how you will use the van.

The solution I found:  I have an unusually low garage ceiling.  Full
size vans do not fit at all.  My choices were a mini van with a
lowered floor, or a VW bus.  The bus actually has more head room than
an unmodified full size van and is a full 7 inches or more shorter.
The only lift option is side mounted, so I got a slim rotarty lift
that I can actually use in a standard parking space if my neighbors
don't park across the lines...

MacRae
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From: WOLTRING%HNYKUN53.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (H.J. Woltring)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Virtual Reality and Disabilities (CfP)
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:17:37 GMT
Reply-To: WOLTRING%HNYKUN53.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu (H.J. Woltring)
Organization: HIT Lab, Seattle WA.

Index Number: 23973

[Forwarded from the BIOMCH-L mailing list]

Article 4645 in sci.virtual-worlds (moderated):
from:        hlab@milton.u.washington.edu (Human Int. Technology Lab)
subject:     CONF: 2nd Virtual Reality and Disabilities Conf.,
                   Los Angeles, March 1993
Date:        20 Aug 92 19:53:53 GMT

California State University, Northridge (CSUN), announces its Second
Annual Virtual Reality and Persons with Disabilities Conference for
March 17-20, 1993, at the Los Angeles Airport Marriott Hotel as a
part of its Eight Annual Conference on Technology and Persons with
Disabilities.  CSUN's 1992 conference drew 2,200 participants, 276
speakers, and 102 exhibitors, according to Dr. Harry J. Murphy,
Conference Director.

A single copy of the PROCEEDINGS from the first Virtual Reality and
Persons with Disabilities Conference is available at no cost from
CSUN.  It includes a dozen papers, including a Keynote Address by
Jaron Lanier, Founder and Chief Scientist of VPL Research, Inc.

Speakers applying virtual worlds technology to the problems of people
with disabilities are invited to be speakers at the next conference.

For more information, contact:

        Dr. Harry Murphy
        Conference Director
        Technology & Persons with Disabilities
        California State University, Northridge
        18111 Nordhoff Avenue, DVSS
        Northridge, CA 91330 USA
        vfoao073@vax.csun.edu (alias hmurphy@vax.csun.edu)
        +1-818-885-2578 phone
        +1-818-885-4929 fax
From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: from the president of syntha-voice 4 of 4
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:03:58 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24192

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 Quoting Paul Nobrega to All 10 Aug 92 15:41:42

 PN> I have not seen this article, and quite frankly am quite interested
 PN> in following up on its validity.

Hello Paul, the article in question is in the December 1988 Technology
Update.  I don't know if this issue is still available, but here's
their address and phone number.
Sensory Access Foundation
385 Sherman Avenue  Suite 2
Palo Alto, CA  94306 1-415-329-0430
The article in question concerned the Nomad.  And it stated that the
Canadian Federal Government had ordered it but had not received it
several months later.  Keith Bucher.

... Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your taglines!

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From: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: I'm back
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:17:50 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Jones@p13.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.13 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24342

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Hello everybody. I'm back in Phoenix after a month in Cleveland. I
had planned on staying until after Labor Day but due to bad weather
(rain and cold) and living in a motel for a month, I came back ten
days ago. I never got my point set up while in Cleveland and had
little spare time anyway. I just today got my configuration
straightened out on my point.

Have not yet caught up with recent messages but there were 67 when
I called the BBS so I guess it's awfully busy here. I am going to
attempt to keep up with messages here.

                       -Keith-

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From: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: discussing Marijuana
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:23:46 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO

Index Number: 24055

>>My question about this article is this:
>>Is maryjuana used by many disable people as a "treatment?" Regardless of what
>>the FDA says, other people in the real world will witness to its medicinal
>>qualities.

I'm glad you brought this up as I understand that in November we'll be
voting on whether marijuana should be legalized for medicinal use.  I
intend to vote for it.  I also expect that it will be thrown out, but
you never know do you.  Of course my feeling is that all drugs should
be legalized.

                        Bolder Bill

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From: Tim.Syfert@f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Syfert)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Transportation
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:55:56 GMT
Reply-To: Tim.Syfert@f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24308

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 TA>     I'm looking into purchasing a van and there are somethings
 TA>  I want advice on. I need to know which would be better,
 TA>  lowering the floor or putting on a higher roof. Which van
 TA>  would be best a Chevy or a Ford. And where would the lift on
 TA>  the van best work on the side or in the back. ###

Tony,

    I've heard that Fords are best when it comes to lowering the floor.
Anyone else....?

                                  Tim

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