HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shanega@athena.mit.edu (Shane G. Artis)
Subject: 68030 board for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:35:30 GMT

I have a 68030 motherboard from a NeXTcube for sale.  The board has no
RAM on it, but is in perfect working order otherwise.  I'm not sure
what it's worth, but the first good offer I receive will get it (i.e.
no $25 offers).  Note that these boards can be used by Spherical
Solutions as a way of getting OD support on a Turbo cube motherboard
(contact them for details; I have none), and I think their solution
allows the 68030 board to be used as a second CPU for a form of
multiprocessing.

Regards,

Shane


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare)
Subject: WANTED: MegaPixel Mono, any condition
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:05:46 GMT

Hi, I'm leading a bicoastal lifestyle ;-) since I'm a student here
in sunny Pasadena, while home is back in Baltimore. I found that I'm
going to need ny NeXT during my next vacation back East, and while
I'll happily ship my slab cross-country, I'd rather not mess with the
MPel. So:
	Does anyone in LA or Maryland/DC/Virgina (preferable)
		    reachable by FedEx COD (2nd choice)

	Have:
		A working MPel, whether old, blurry, unused,
			pincusioned, but *working*

	For:
		Something under $500                            
		(or best offer)

Rohit Khare
(818) 792-9114
khare@cco.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
From: sands@hood.eng.ohio-state.edu (Scott Sands)
Subject: NextStation 400/8/mono+Printer+extras, b.o.>$5000
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:22:19 GMT

NextStation 400/8/mono+Printer+extras, b.o.>$5000

I am selling my NeXT. It is the state-of-the-art in 
unix workstations: 

  NextStation:   | Printer/Extras:            | Software:     
  ---------------+----------------------------+-------------------------
   25 MHz/Mono   |  Next 400 dpi LaserPrinter |  Improv     Diagram!
   400MB Disk    |  Spare HP toner cartridge  |  Squash     WriteNow
   8MB memory    |  Next developer docs       |  Mathematica with docs
   2.88MB floppy |  Modem cable/~250 floppies |  2.1 Extended 

   o Home unit, barely used, barely out of warrenty, can
     be easily re-warrented *with* on-site service. Over
     $7200 invested.

   o I will accept the best offer over $5000 + shipping 
     made by 12:00 noon August 29, 1992. I will immediately 
     accept the first firm offer of $5600 + shipping and 
     terminate the sale at that time. I may terminate this 
     offer at any time, without notice.

   o I may break up the package if an appropriate set of 
     offers on individual items is made. 

   o Will deliver and set up in Boston or N.Y. metro areas 
     (Southern New England).

  Scott Sands					203-691-0161 
  sands@vsdec.nusc.navy.mil	


-- 
O. Scott Sands                         863 Smithfield Apt. 1501
Phone: (216)-467-0135                Sagamore Hills, Ohio 44067
sands@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
              
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: tswan@trirex.com (Todd M. Swan)
Subject: NeXTstation Color for sale
Reply-To: tswan@trirex.com
Organization: Trirex Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:29:54 GMT

NeXTstation Color for sale-

     25 Mhz Motorola 68040
     16 MB RAM
     105 MB hard disk
     2.88 MB floppy drive
     17" Color Megapixel Display
     Sound Box
     Keyboard, mouse, and docs

$5000 plus shipping from New York City (and COD if used)

This machine is less than 4 months old and it hasn't been used for the  
last two.  I can't send the docs until I get them from New Mexico next  
month.  The HD has no system on it because I used it as a swap drive.  I  
may be able to get a system put on it.  (but I wouldn't recommend it...  
:-)
     
Call Todd at (212) 735-6669, leave a message if no answer.
--
  "We're only immortal,   | Todd M. Swan
  for a limited time..."  | tswan@trirex.com (NeXTmail)
    -- Neil Peart,        | Trirex Systems, Inc.
    "Dreamline," Rush     | New York, NY - Westport, CT
From: kopelman31@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: 1.2 GB SCSI Hard Drive Wanted
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:40:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Looking for a 1.2 gigabyte SCSI Hard Drive.  New or used

Please contact Joshua Kopelman (kopelman31@wharton.upenn.edu)
or call (215) 293-4770 during the day.  Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: hhsu@impact.shaman.com (Henry Hsu)
Subject: Version 2.9 of SuperDebugger -- ftp site
Organization: Impact Software Publishing, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:31:12 GMT


Version 2.9 of SuperDebugger is now available for ftp from nova.cc.purdue.edu 
and cs.orst.edu under:

 /pub/next/2.0-release/demos/SuperDebugger2.9.tar.Z	(nova.cc.purdue.edu)
 /pub/next/demos/SuperDebugger2.9.tar.Z			(cs.orst.edu)
	
More information about SuperDebugger is provided below.  If you have any 
problems getting or using the demo version from the ftp-site, please let me 
know.  Also, if you would like more information about SuperDebugger, please 
send the request to info@impact.com.

Henry Hsu
hhsu@impact.com

Impact Software Publishing, Inc.
156 East 33rd Street, New York, NY 10016
1-800-822-3385
TEL: (212)686-3512
FAX: (212)686-0727

==============================================================================

SuperDebugger, a GNU Debugger Front-End:

SuperDebugger provides an intuitive graphical user-interface to the GNU 
debugger gdb provided by NeXT. SuperDebugger features graphical display of 
program counter and breakpoints, point and click setting of breakpoints and 
displaying of variables, an editor that can be used to display or modify 
source files, user definable macros, monitoring of variables in a separate 
window, and savable debugging environments. SuperDebugger also provides a 
complete set of keybindings to allow a user to easily control program 
execution and examine data.  

Registered licensees of Gdb 1.0 through 2.5 are eligible for free upgrades 
to SuperDebugger 2.9.  The upgrade license keys can be obtained from Impact
without charge by e-mail or phone.

Version 2.9 of SuperDebugger includes the following new features as compared
to Gdb 2.3:

1. Rich Text can be displayed in the Source Text.
2. Double clicking on compilation errors will select the line of the 
   source file that caused the error.
3. Emacs control editing keys can be used in the input panel.
4. A Mouse Activate option has been added to allow SuperDebugger to be 
   activated by placing the mouse in one of its windows.
5. Works fully with both NeXTStep 2.1 and 3.0.
6. Compile command can be set using a new preference feature.

==============================================================================
From: midiapolis@cup.portal.com (Gerard Thomas Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NeXTstation $2900, laser $1000
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:14:07 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

For sale:

	NeXTstation ($2900)	8MB RAM
				105MB hard disk
				Release 2.1
				Various other software
				Manuals, cables, etc.
				14 months old - no problems, upgrading

	NeXTlaser ($1000)	cables, cartridge, etc.
				11 months old

Shipping costs extra. Mailed C.O.D.

Gerard @ MIDIapolis  midiapolis@cup.portal.com  612-822-1604
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From: fsstm@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: NextStation Color/21" $7500 obo
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:54:01 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

--FOR SALE:  Complete NextStation Color Computer System--

Features:

  o 21" Color Display
  o NextStation Color 25Mhrz 68040 CPU
  o 400MB Internal Hard Drive, 2.88MB Internal Floppy Drive
  o 16MB RAM
  o New-Style Keyboard, Mouse, Sound Box, and all cables

This system is brand new and is worth over $12,000.  The boxes have never been
opened.  The system is still under full warranty.

Asking $7,500.  Price is negotiable.  Buyer pays for shipping and COD.

Please reply by EMAIL to fsstm@acad3.alaska.edu        (internet)
                      or fsstm%alaska@cunyvm.cuny.edu  (bitnet)

--Steve
From: dwight@s1.gov (Dwight Shih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Athena Design Announces Mesa Educational Pricing
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:03:41 GMT
Organization: LLNL

In article <1992Aug18.143555.2595@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu writes:
>
>As best as I can remember, not allowing pricing information was part of the  
>charter of c.s.n.a that everyone voted on.  I also seem to recall that there  
>would not be announcement type posts in any of the other c.s.n groups...
>

As long as we've started the complaint session, is anyone else out
there tired of seeing announcements spring up in c.s.n.[^announce] ?
This may have been warranted when the moderator was having
technical difficulties, but the announce latency seems to have
been acceptable of late.
From: herring@smaug.uio.no (B. Erickson Herring)
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:06:05 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: [Europe/Scandinavien] NeXTcube for sale

herring@smaug.uio.no (B. Erickson Herring) writes:
:Hello All!
:
:I have a NeXTcube that I would like to sell.  Specs follow:
:
:NeXTcube w/ 25MHz 68040
:MegaPixel Monochrome Monitor (Extremely Crisp)
:16MB RAM (this can also be 20MB, 24MB, or 28MB -- 
:	     assuming that I don't sell the chips first)
:96KB DSP RAM-Expansion (this is optional, as I can always use it...)
:256MB Optical Disk Drive (this was replaced shortly after I bought
:			     the machine, and has been used for much less
:			     than 100 hours, always with a dust filter)
:(Up To) 14 Optical Disks
:PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 (+ SCSI cabel, internally terminated)
:Fujitsu 660MB Hard Disk Drive (Which _could_ be quieter :-)
:	   (Also optional, as I can use this for something else, too...)
:Old Style Keyboard (Also optional, as I will be glad to send you a
:		       new one! :-)
:
:
:I would like to take offers on this machine until next Sunday, the 16th.
:
:As I am not going to pay shipping -- barring, of course, an offer that
:I cannot refuse -- it stands to reason that this will be more
:attractive to those on and around the Continent than it will be to
:those of you reading news from the States.
:
:That being the case, please feel free to bid in your local currency
:(or in ECU :-).
:
:Please indicate which items you are presenting an offer for
:(additively or subtractively), or bid on the whole system.
:
:Offers go to herring@proffsys.no (note the spelling -- it's not our fault)
:
:Look forward to hearing from y'all,


I am unable to receive mail to "herring@proffsys.no" because my UUCP
site can't seem to get its act together.  If you are interested in this
machine, please mail to me at "herring@smaug.uio.no"

Thanks!
-----
Erick Herring
Technical Director, NeXT Systems
Professional Systems a.s.
Oslo, Norway
herring@proffsys.no (NeXTMail)
herring@smaug.uio.no (RFC 822 Mail)
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Athena Design Announces Mesa Educational Pricing
Bcc: irving
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:48:45 GMT

Okay, I have the definitive answer:

1.  Prices are perfectly okay anywhere.  

2.  Blatant advertising is not encouraged anywhere, even in
misc.forsale.computers.

3.  Originally, the idea behind comp.sys.next.announce was that the
moderator would weed out the most repetitive or
marketing-hype-filled postings, leaving a mixture of informative
ads and miscellaneous announcements of all sorts.  Unfortunately,
the present moderator refuses to post prices for his own personal
reasons; this makes the ads that he posts nearly valueless to the
thousands of us depending on the newsgroup for our information.

One solution is by-passing the moderator and placing informative
ads with prices in the unmoderated newsgroups: hardware, software,
programmer, or misc as most appropriate to the product.

This is not a bad solution, and is much better than not seeing the
prices, but the lack of moderation may mean we see more marketing
hype than a moderator would permit.  Frankly, I'll tolerate the
hype to get the prices, as long as the current moderator refuses to
post prices, and apparently so will most of us.

Therefore, please, Moderator, change your policy as soon as
possible.  And please, Producers, announce your products elsewhere
until that happens (and only until that happens), with the prices
and available discounts included.

-- 
 Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com      Happy Man Corp.  206/463-9399 x101
 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA  98070-7399   fax x108
 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
Info free; sample $20.  Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
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From: burzin@skat.usc.edu (Burzin N. Engineer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: NexTStation for $3500
Date: 13 Aug 1992 19:52:22 -0700
Organization: University Computing Services--U.S.C.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

Brand new NextStation for sale
Used for about 20hrs. 
My friend had bought one next and one sparc and later opted for the SUN
sparc.
Still in original box. Please make an offer.
Serious offers only
The net will correct me if I am wrong but I think new ones go for about
$5000. 

Features:

High Resolution Monochrome screen (MegaPixel Display), 2 key mouseand keyboard.
High Density Floppy Drive, Hard Disk Drive ( 100M I think).
2 SCSI ports
2 serial ports
DSP port
Printer port
Twisted-pair and thin wire Ethernet port.
All manuals that come with it.

It comes in three original boxes. Buyer pays shipping.
If mail in the .sig bounces (It does sometimes) please use
burzin@usc.edu




-- 
--
Burzin Engineer                                 bne@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM
Systems Test & Verification                     (310) 524 7513
Teradata Business Unit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: freimer@cs.cornell.edu (Robert Freimer)
Subject: Re: Lotus Improv for sale
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:04:15 GMT

>For sale,
>Unopened copy of Lotus Improv for the NeXT
>asking $250 o.b.o.
         ^^^

This is expensive, since an educational copy can be
obtained for about $149 from some campus bookstores.  Any such
bookstore which deals with Douglas Stewart Inc., should be able to get
it for you.  The price depends on their volume of business.

-- 

-Robert
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From: kls30@cd.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ba.market.computers,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC for sale - for the *NeXT*
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:58:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

The person who was supposed to pick it up locally thought this was a sun
version
so I am posting this again.  Those that sent me mail that I told the
package 
was sold please send mail again.

I have a copy of SoftPC for sale.  I have all the original documentation
and floppies.  I'm selling it since I no longer need it for the purpose
I bought it for, namely to run Quicken.  
I'd like $175 since I paid ~$300. 

I forgot to send the registration card to Insignia Solutions so the package 
has never been registered. ******

Once again this is version 2.0 for the NeXT - original documentation is in
unused, that is new condition.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: mcanji@fractal.phys.unt.edu (Mirko Canji)
Subject: FOR SALE:  512 OPTICAL DISKS 
Reply-To: mcanji@fractal.phys.unt.edu
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:30:46 GMT

Brand new (shrink wrapped) Canon MO cartridges for sale only $164.00  
plus shipping.  Please direct inquires to 817 566-5565.  Thank you  
for your interest. 

Mirko Canji

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From: valardin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Heck)
Subject: Wanted: internal HD roughly 100MB
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 23:31:08 GMT


If you're thinking of upgrading your NeXT harddrive to something
bigger than you currently have, I am looking for a 3 1/2 Next
harddrive for a station. I am running it off an external drive but I
want to fill the void in my station with a little bit of extra disk space. 

So if you have one, preferably fairly new, send me email with your
price.

Stefan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: richard@csi.on.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Re: political propaganda in tag lines 
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:56:16 GMT

Who's going to define what's political propaganda and what isn't?
Even worse, the actions put forward in that .sig are openly
illegal and antisocial.  The only criteria should be the law.
If you want to look tasteless, that's your choice.  It's quite
easy to ignore somebody.
Richard.
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From: fsstm@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: NextStation Color/21" Display $7000
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:36:20 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

FOR SALE:  Complete NextStation Color Computer System

  o 21" Color Display
  o NextStation Color 25Mhrz 68040 CPU
    o 400MB Internal Hard Drive, 2.88MB Internal Floppy Drive
    o 16MB RAM
  o New-Style Keyboard, Mouse, Sound Box, Manuals, and Cables

This system is brand new and has a retail value of over $12,000.
The boxes have never even been opened.

Asking $7,000 or best offer.  Buyer pays for shipping, COD.

Please reply by EMAIL to fsstm@acad3.alaska.edu        (internet)
                      or fsstm%alaska@cunyvm.cuny.edu  (bitnet)
--Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: zulu!errol (Errol Ginsberg)
Subject: SIMMS for sale
Keywords: SIMMS, memory
Organization: Ridgeback Solutions
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:21:13 GMT

Eight 1 Mbyte SIMMS for sale. 

Asking price - $25 each or $180 for all of them (one purchase). Buyer pays  
shipping charges. Shipping choices are:
	- Fed-EX COD
	- UPS COD

Errol Ginsberg
errol@ridgeback.com
Ridgeback Solutions
From: EX24%MUSICA.MCGILL.CA@VM1.MCGILL.CA (EX24000)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: SIMMs needed
Date: 12 Aug 1992 22:38:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi everyone.
I am currently looking for simms to put in my 040 non-Turbo Cube.
I would be interested in either 1 or 4 MB modules. Anything that will
fit, quite simply.

So, if you have orphaned simms from a memory upgrade or from a
motherboard swap and would be interested to part with them for a good
cause (my computing needs. And believe me, I am very needy!), drop me a
line or two.

Goodby to you all.

Nicolas Dore
ex24@musica.mcgill.ca   -- NOT NeXTMail
(514) 342-7027
From: zeno@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean T. Lamont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: swap create for Soft-PC?
Date: 15 Aug 92 10:08:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug15.100810.25655
Organization: Abstract Software


I have a student version of Soft-PC, and I have realized that I don't have
as much of a need for DOS emulation as I thought, so I'd like to swap for
a copy of create.  Student discounted versions (ie no manual) would possibly
be ok.
-- 
Sean T. Lamont, Abstract Software        |   "Don't oppress me, It's
zeno@u.washington.edu                    |    'computer of color!' "
Next Mail............................... |  yang.cpac.washington.edu!zebu!zeno 
----------------"My employers opinions are my own, not yours."-----------------
From: kopelman31@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NeXT Consultant Wanted
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:36:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

As a NeXT novice, I am looking for a person in the Philadelphia, New Jersey
area who is willing to do a few hours of consulting work (for money, of
course).

I recently obtained a NeXT computer which I would like to connect to the
Internet.  I have an ethernet connection coming out of a NetBlazer, and an
Internet address.  What I need is someone who would be able to combine the
hardware and software, and make the NeXT a mail and FTP server.

Please call me at (215) 293-4770 or drop a note to kopelman31@wharton.upenn.edu
if you are interested.

Thanks


Joshua Kopelman
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From: c152-cp@dv349-1a.berkeley.edu (Class Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Nextstation cheap!
Date: 13 Aug 1992 08:32:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: dv349-1a.berkeley.edu
Keywords: nextstation

I have the following NeXTstation for sale:

25Mhz 68040 Nextstation
20Meg RAM
105Meg internal harddisk
2.88meg internal floppy drive
MegaPixel Monitor
Standard 2.1 
(mint condition, with original boxes)

Asking for $3200 (negotiable).  The buyer pays shipping.

By the way, if you live in the bay area, I can deliver it to you.


Johnson Sieu
c152-cp@web.berkeley.edu
510-215-8314

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Athena Design Announces Mesa Educational Pricing
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.004845.23559@Happy-Man.com> irving@Happy-Man.com  
(Irving_Wolfe) writes:
> Okay, I have the definitive answer:
> 
> 1.  Prices are perfectly okay anywhere.  
> 
> 2.  Blatant advertising is not encouraged anywhere, even in
> misc.forsale.computers.
> 
> 3.  Originally, the idea behind comp.sys.next.announce was that the
> moderator would weed out the most repetitive or
> marketing-hype-filled postings, leaving a mixture of informative
> ads and miscellaneous announcements of all sorts.  Unfortunately,
> the present moderator refuses to post prices for his own personal
> reasons; this makes the ads that he posts nearly valueless to the

He refuses because that is the precedent of the USENET.
There is no reason to get personal with insults about Todd
just because he is implementing a policy that you happen
to disagree with.  Perhaps we can change the policy -
perhaps we can't.  Not all parameters of USENET usage can
be voted upon.  

While I have no problem with including prices in announce
ads, I don't see anyone having difficulty calling a
company or sending email to get pricing information
either.

By the way, how often will we allow ads to repeat?  Monthly-
weekly-daily?  I suggest that the volume may require a
full-time moderator! 

> thousands of us depending on the newsgroup for our information.
> 
> One solution is by-passing the moderator and placing informative
> ads with prices in the unmoderated newsgroups: hardware, software,
> programmer, or misc as most appropriate to the product.

This would open a pandora's box of noise in those groups,
and I for one will not tolerate marketing in the hardware,
software, and sysadmin groups.  I will do everything I can
to stop such insanity, including a boycott of any company
that posts such ads to those inappropriate newsgroups. 

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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