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From: alufml@purple.fnma.com (Francois-Michel Lang)
Subject: Installing TeX at a "secure" site?
Organization: Fannie Mae, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:10:40 GMT


I just received a tape of the Unix TeX distribution from the
Northwest Computing Support Center and handed it over to the
sysadmin folks at my site for installation.  Now they tell me
that they will *not* install it because TeX is public domain
software, which is verboten here.  (Why, given this policy,
we can still use GNU Emacs is another matter...)

In an effort to convince the sysadmin folks that installing and
running TeX will not destroy the world as we know it:

(1) I'd very much appreciate hearing from anyone who has TeX running
at a site where security is a real concern (e.g., military, defense,
or government "agencies").  If TeX is safe enough for such sites, it
should be safe enough for us!

(2) Has anything been written/published showing/arguing that TeX is
indeed safe, and will not introduce the latest and most fiendish
viruses into our network?

I don't have to be convinced of the worth of TeX.  I just need some
ammunition to bolster my argument that TeX is safe to install.

Many thanks.
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From: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Diffs to Frequently Asked Questions about TeX and LaTeX [monthly]
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:34:10 GMT
Reply-To: pacolley@ember.UUCP (Paul Colley)
Organization: Ember---private system

In article <61060002@acf3.NYU.EDU> kesich@acf3.NYU.EDU
(John Kesich,321wwh,998-3047,) writes:

>Why post faq-diffs to comp.text.tex?
>
>Since the faq is posted anyway, doesn't posting faq-diffs only chew up
>additional disk space & bandwidth?  Or is there some advantage to
>producing the latest faq by applying the diffs to the previous version
>instead of simply saving the latest faq?

The point of the FAQ is for people to know the answers it contains,
in order to cut down on the "boring" volume of the newsgroup.

However, the FAQ changes fairly regularly.  In order to save time,
those who have read the FAQ before can just skim the list of changes
("diffs") to keep on top of what's in the FAQ.  This is a lot
quicker than reading the whole thing.

Or, in other words, some storage media---like my brain---are much
easier to update by a list of diffs than by scanning a whole new
copy :-)

- Paul Colley
University:  colley@qucis.queensu.ca
Home:        pacolley@ember.uucp   watmath!ember!pacolley  +1 613 545 3807
"Quantum Mechanics:  The dreams stuff is made of"    - Ken Burnside
From: ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Problems including files verbatim
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:10:09 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

Another verbatim style, "alltt.sty", is claimed to treat tabs
satisfactorily.

Geoffrey Tobin
From: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: A macro for giving the current time of day.
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:58:43 GMT
Reply-To: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1676@spam.ua.oz>, dfarrow@spam.ua.oz (Duncan Farrow) writes:
|> Dear TeXers, here is a macro for producing the current time (or actually
|> the time that the macro is called) which behaves very similarly to the
       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> \today macro (The TeXbook, page 406) that returns the current date in
|> the current font.

To be pedantic: it is the time when the TeX program was entered (unless you
have have altered \time yourself since then). This can be relevant if you
have been sitting around interacting with TeX for a while.

Chris Thompson
JANET:    cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
Internet: cet1@phx.cam.ac.uk
From: img@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Ian Green)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: 14pt fonts?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:54:54 GMT
	<1992Aug19.101440.1@lucy.claremont.edu>
Organization: Department of Artificial Intelligence, University of Edinburgh


On 19 Aug 92 17:14:40 GMT, dhosek@lucy.claremont.edu said:
[...]
>> My problem now is: How can I get my fonts to be in 14 point? I am basically
>> using a mocked up version of the springer style file smva.sty, plus 12pt on
>> the report.sty. The ideal thing would be if there were a 14pt option file
>> that would work well in conjunction with report.sty. 

> No, not report.sty! LaTeX has a bad enough reputation for
> producing ugly output as it is! Does your publisher have no
> concern for quality output?


Don,
	I stopped at your claim that LaTeX has a `bad enough
reputation'.  I wonder why, if this is the case, why there aren't any
other styles around which are one-up on the standard styles.  I think
I'm inclined to agree with you, so where are they?

-ian

Ian Green                                            Ian.Green@ed.ac.uk
Mathematical Reasoning Group                    
Department of AI, University of Edinburgh            +44 31 650 2721


> -dh

> Don Hosek                  
> dhosek@ymir.claremont.edu  
> Quixote Digital Typography 
> 714-621-1291
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dak@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (David Kastrup)
Subject: Re: A macro for giving the current time of day.
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:57:26 GMT

dfarrow@spam.ua.oz (Duncan Farrow) writes:

>Dear TeXers, here is a macro for producing the current time (or actually
>the time that the macro is called) which behaves very similarly to the
>\today macro (The TeXbook, page 406) that returns the current date in
>the current font. This macro uses the TeX primative \time that returns
>the number of minutes since midnight and most of the effort is spent
>in converting this to the hour and minutes past the hour.
Corrected:
\newcount\hour \newcount\minute
\def\now{\ifnum\time<60       %check to see if it's just after midnight
          12:\ifnum\time<10 0\fi\number\time am %and act accordingly.
         \else
%          \ifnum\time>719\let\a=p\else\leta=p\fi %Check to see if it is pm
% there is one backslash missing. Besides, why not
          \ifnum\time>719\chardef\a=p\else\chardef\a=p\fi %Check to see if it is pm
          \hour=\time
          \divide\hour by 60 %\hour is the result of an integer divide
          \ifnum\hour>12\advance\hour by -12\advance\minute by -720\fi
          \number\hour:%
          \multiply\hour by 60 %Use is made of the integer divide here.
          \advance\minute by -\hour
          \ifnum\minute<10 0\fi\number\minute\a m\fi}

>Well I use it in my draft papers etc.

>Duncan.
From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Subsubsection title in report's table of contents
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:33:38 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College

In article <86590@netnews.upenn.edu>, degraff@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Michel F. DeGraff) writes:
> For some reason, LaTeX would not insert subsubsection titles in the table of
> contents of a report-style document.  This happens even though the title of the
> subsubsection is included in the .toc file as follows:

\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}

In Lamport's book, pp.159-60
In Buerger's book, apparently not documented.
In Hahn's book, pp.230-1, but good look finding it if you don't
  know it's there
In my book (to be finished Real Soon Now), Section A.3 (page numbers are
  still flexible)

-dh

Don Hosek                  
dhosek@ymir.claremont.edu  
Quixote Digital Typography 
714-621-1291
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: dhosek@lucy.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: How to set \oldstyle as default ?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:15:30 PDT

In article <l8vi6nINNcvc@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:
> In article <1992Aug16.144136.779@cnedcu51.bitnet>, iffuhrer@cnedcu51.bitnet writes:
> |> Dear TeX Gurus

> |> Could someone explain me how to set \oldstyle numbers as default for a whole
> |> document. (a style in the \documentstyle command ?)

> In text mode there is no simple way to do this, other than
> to make all them digits into active characters:

Victor, Victor, Victor...

The "simple, good" way to do this is through virtual font
remappings of digits from cmmi to replace those in cmr, cmmib for
cmbx, with some work to deal with slanted fonts. The lining
figures should be placed in the mathfonts and the mathcodes for
digits modified appropriately (since lining figures are more
appropriate for mathematical typesetting). Generating the VFs can
be a bit of work, but it will give one more traditional
typesetting. 

By the way, oldstyle digits and true small caps are becoming
available for increasing numbers of Type 1 fonts and this
approach becomes even more useful in those circumstances.

-dh
From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: dynamic parbox in tabular env - is it possible?
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:57:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de's message of 13 Aug 92 06:09:37 GMT


In article <maassen.713686177@kreon> maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Maassen) writes:

Andreas> Nntp-Posting-Host: kreon

Andreas> I would like to have a table (created with tabular environment) with
Andreas> one (or maybe more than one parbox) columns (p{...}). The width of this
Andreas> (or these) parbox columns, however, should not be fixed but rather be
Andreas> dynamically adjusted to the space not used by the other columns.
Andreas> For example, with textwidth 15cm, \begin{tabular}{|l|p{***}|}, and
Andreas> the longest entry for the left column being 5cm long, *** should be
Andreas> automatically set to 10cm (minus the space needed for separating the
Andreas> columns, of course). Is anything like that possible?

Andreas> Andreas
Andreas> (maassen@parsytec.de)

Get tabularx.sty from SHSU (also aston and Stuttgart I think). 

From David Jones' macro-index:  

> Name: tabularx.sty
> Description: LaTeX style option defining the tabularx environment.  This
>     is like tabular*, except that the widths of certain `p' columns are
>     modified to achieve the desired total width, rather than the width
>     of the inter-column space.
> Keywords: LaTeX, tabular
> Author: David Carlisle <carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk>
> Supported: yes
> Latest Version: 30 Jan 1992
> Archives: shsu*
> Note: Requires my newarray.sty and Mittelbach's array.sty.
>     Documentation requires Mittelbach's doc.sty.


David


If you would like to retrieve the file, include the command:
 SENDME STY.TABULARX
in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@SHSU.BITNET (FILESERV@SHSU.edu). 
If you would like an overview of FILESERV, include the command HELP in your
message.  For anonymous ftp access, use Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8) and
look in the directory [FILESERV.STY].
--
                           David Carlisle
                                    JANET: carlisle@uk.ac.man.cs

                                    Computer Science Department
                                    Manchester University
                                    Oxford Road
                                    Manchester
                                    England
                                    M13 9PL
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Help with MetaFont
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:52:46 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.

aix3!wjg@netcom.com (Joey Gibson) writes:

>Recently in comp.text.tex, someone posted a file containing
>MetaFont input to produce a font for drawing springs. I took
>this file, and ran it through MetaFont, giving me a file
>called ``spring.260''. My question is, what do I do now?

You could use testfont to see what the characters look like.

% tex testfont
...
Font > spring [or whatever]
* \table
* \bye

% dvips testfont

I wonder was that .260 correct?
Did you specify the mode (or printer) you were using?
(See the Metafont book p278-279.)

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Edward Van Cura)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Help! Inside/Outside Margins in 2-Sided TeX Document
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:38:03 GMT

Please help me...

   I would like to produce a document which is double-sided with
the inner margins set at 1.0in and the outer margins set at 0.5in.
I am using doublecolumns with eplain-1.9. 

I set the \topmargin and \bottommargin at 0.5in each, then initialize
the \hoffset with 

\ifodd\pageno \hoffset=0.0in \else \hoffset=-0.5in\fi
(an article may start on page 26, for example)

Then I need a way to reverse the margin settings at the end of the 
page in preparation for the next page. First I tried to tack the 
\ifodd statement listed above onto the \headline{} routine, since I
thought TeX would look at it during the \output routine
at the end of every page. This failed to get the desired effect. 
Then I tried to make the margin change by sticking the \ifodd statement
in what I thought was the \output routine token list. No dice.
I've spent 3 days squinting at the TeXbook, TeX for the Impatient, 
the eplain docs, the TeX FAQ file, and searching several ftp sites
for a ready-made macro. 


Any advice or pre-fab macros would be greatly appreciated.

Edward Earl van Cura
evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: danna@irisa.fr (Frederic Danna,ia(py))
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Including PostScript figures; problems wit
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:53:49 GMT
Reply-To: danna@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA, Rennes, France

In article 29856@ctr.columbia.edu, anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo) writes:
>About including PS files in a Latex document...
>
>I've been trying this for a while now, with no success.  I have gotten
>the psfig.sty file, and have a PS file that has been created with XtoPS.
>By running Latex on the file (pap0.tex) I get no errors, but while running
>xdvi (I'm running this on a Sun IPX w/ OpenWindows 2.0), I get the main
>text of what is in my file, without the pictures.  Any ideas why this might
>not be working?  It does seem that enough space is created for the figure,
>but all I get is a big blank space.
>
>Here's the error message from xdvi:
>
>[ anselmo@cumesb ~/text/tex ]: xdvi pap0
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Include0 "psfig.pro"" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Literal "38153420 26510049 1052508 12761661 39205928 39271710 startTexFig  "" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Include1 "/home/cumesb/anselmo/text/tex/a.ps"" not implemented
>xdvi:  special "dvitps: Literal "endTexFig  " " not implemented
>[ anselmo@cumesb ~/text/tex ]: 
>
>Thanks.
>
>-A.
>

This is normal: xdvi doesn't let you see figures (but they'll be printed !). If you want to see text &  figures, just use another previewer...

Bye.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:12:52 EDT
From: <RVK@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: prtp6m in EmTeX shears lines on KXP-1124

For some strange reason that I don't quite understand
the prtp6m (batch file) that prints .dvi files to my
KXP-1124(Panasonic 24-pin printer) shears the upper halfs
of some lines relative to the lower halfs. Note this occurs
only on some lines, which I don't follow, because the sheared
lines are scattered randomly on the page. I think I"ve followed
instructions clearly on .fli font installation on my PC, since
v or vs (batch files that preview a .dvi file on the screen)
seem to work like a charm without the above problem. Can someone
please help. Thanks in advance.

Atul Ramani
PSUVM
===========
From: rdong@PLAYMATE.MAT.JHU.EDU (Rui - Tao  Dong)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: texinfo in PS
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:19:54 GMT


	I remember discussions on the net a while ago about printing
texinfo using PostScript fonts. I forgot what the outcome was. Did somebody
hack texinfo.tex? I'd like to get a copy. Otherwise, I'll try to hack it
myself. 

Regards,

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From: cvaitsos@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Constantin Vaitsos)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: importing PostScript files in Latex
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:57:41 GMT
Reply-To: cvaitsos@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Constantin Vaitsos)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: cvaitsos@bongo.cc.utexas.edu

I am new to this newsgroup, so I cannot see if this question has been 
previously answered. 

I recently discovered the \special command in Latex to import PostScript
files, but I encountered problems, that is to say, I was not able to
import a PostScript file. 
My PostScript file was created through MS-Word on a Mac, and a friend told
me that its not possible to have a Mac created ps file imported in Latex.

Please tell me if this can be done or if I could use MS-Word on an IBM PC
to do it.

You can mail to me directly your replies.

Thank you

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rolfl@karl.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren)
Subject: Re: "risky" PD software
Organization: Institutt for Humanistisk Informatikk, Blindern, Oslo, Norway
	<1992Aug17.033022.273@hemlock.cray.com>
	<1992Aug17.213017.27781@sed.stel.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:19:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.213017.27781@sed.stel.com> jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel) writes:
>   to you, try looking at it from the viewpoint of a manager who knows full
>   well that he doesn't have the knowledge to make technical judgment calls
>   on this; as a fallback position he'll pick the one where there is a nice,
>   clean legal relationship with somebody who takes responsibility for the
>   performance of the software.
>
>   --Jon Radel
>
>
>

Most commercial software packages I have seen include a disclaimer to the
effect that the manufacturer doesn't even guarantee that the package is in
fact a computer program.

User support tends to confirm this. For PD and in particular ShareWare
software there's usually a gang of enthusiats available that provide
support for free.

--
       Rolf Lindgren           |       "The opinions expressed above are
       616 Bjerke Studentheim  |        not necessarily those of anyone"
       N-0589 OSLO 5           |           rolfl.lindgren@usit.uio.no
From: danna@irisa.fr (Frederic Danna,ia(py))
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Problems including files verbatim
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:40:40 GMT
Reply-To: danna@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA, Rennes, France

In article 92Aug13144317@orion.laas.fr, ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) writes:
>>>>>> On 10 Aug 92 12:17:44 GMT, dak@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
>>>>>> (David Kastrup) said:
>
>David> Might be a textfile problem. Do these files originally include
>David> CR/LF sequences instead of simple LF (this usually applies mostly
>David> to UNIX systems). Change the files to adhere to the end of line
>David> behaviour usually expected by your OS.
>
>Why can't verbfile.sty and verabtim.sty be patched to work both with
>nl and CR/LF?  Wish: I would also appreciate a version that can expand
>TAB characters to `n' spaces, the default being 8.
>
>--
>Ralph P. Sobek			  Disclaimer: The above ruminations 

So would I...
Fred.
From: roegel@loria.fr (Roegel Denis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: german quotation marks: thanks !
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:17:59 GMT
Organization: CRIN (CNRS) Nancy - INRIA Lorraine

Thanks to all those who replied so quickly to my query and pointed
me to the file german.sty. Please, do no longer send me the file !!

Thanks,

Denis  INTERNET e-mail: roegel@loria.fr
From: cet1@ely.cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Help: all citation numbers are 0???
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:21:17 GMT
Reply-To: cet1@ely.cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <92Aug19.235230cst.77453@nthu.edu.tw>, cww@ee.nthu.edu.tw
(Cheng-Wen Wu) writes:
|> 
|>  When I run LaTeX and BIBTeX on documents with citation, I always
|> have the result with all citation numbers reset to `0'. This can
|> be seen in the .aux file, in which all \bibcite entries appear to
|> be of the form: \bibcite{...}{0}. Repeating latex does no good.
|> 
|>  I am using LaTeX 2.09 (and TeX 3.0) on SUN Sparc1.
|> 
|>  Could anybody who knows the possible problem and solution give
|> me a hand? Thanks in advance.

It might not be this at all, but one possible reason is related to the
change of the counter used in the thebibliography environment from enumi
to enumiv. This is change #197 in latex.bug, and was incorporated in all
or Rainer Schoepf's versions of LaTeX from December 1991 onwards.

The references in latex.tex and the style files that define thebibliography
have to be kept in step in this respect. So you might get this effect if

 1. You had updated latex.tex but not (say) article.sty, or vice versa,
    from a 1991+ LaTeX distribution. But no-one would be stupid enough to
    do partial installs, would they?

 2. You are using a style file based on the old standard style files, using
    enumi, but with a 1991+ version of LaTeX.

 3. You are using a style file based on the new standard style files, using
    enumiv, but with a 1991- version of LaTeX.

Chris Thompson
Cambridge University Computing Service
JANET:    cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
Internet: cet1@phx.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Maassen)
Subject: WANTED: 14pt book style
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:51:58 GMT

I want to write a manual on A4 which is to be reduced to size A5 later.
In order to have 10pt characters in A5, I need something like 14pt
characters in A4. The main style I use is "book".

Did anybody ever write a style that can do this job?

Andreas
(maassen@parsytec.de)
From: orre@thalamus.sans.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: SliTeX Label problems
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:21:58 GMT
Reply-To: orre@nada.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <ORRE.92Aug23003428@nada.kth.se> 
orre@nada.kth.se (Roland Orre) (I) writes:
> The equation labels does not work with SliTeX. The reason seems to be that
> no .aux file is generated. It feels like it is the \label command that does
>  not work properly. I don't understand enough TeX to be able to ...

The problem showed to be that there is a command switch that one can place
in ones personal style file. This command sets the switch @filesw that
controls wether .aux, .toc and .idx files where generated.

\@fileswtrue	
%Line above will make .aux .toc and .idx to be generated.

I still don't understand why my fix "\newlabel{#1}{{\theequation}{\thepage}}"
didn't work but now I don't have to care for a while about that I suppose.
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