From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:38:04 GMT

lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo) writes:

>Would someone give me some ideas and tips on mixing music without using
>a record player?  I would like to avoid using vinyl as much as possible
>for the time being, as I am only experimenting with mixing music, and I
>would rather avoid having to re-buy all of my 242 on vinyl (as if it
>all exists on vinyl..)  

I do remixes of a lot of stuff for my umm.  radio show.  But i don't have much problems.  You have much more equipment than I do.  Sometimes I'll take breaks from the music and insert a sample of something (such as a yosemite sam sample about wet mice) and then have the next track come in.  It could get redundant though.  Go buy a CD of sound effects.  I have one that has about 59 different sounds from a dog getting kicked to a gasoline powered tommy gun.  These can help hide any glitches you might get it 




there by accident.


>        Two CD players; a Pioneer and a JVC .. both are of exceptional
>                quality, are there features that I need that aren't on
>                your average cd player, tho?

>        Two cassette recorders (no, not multitrack...) Both having dubbing
>                capabilities, as if that mattered.

>        One 10 input mixer board.  I haven't used this much, but if someone
>                could give me a couple hints how to achieve cool effects
>                for mixing with the different low med high frequency
>                level knobs and reverb stuff?

>        One Atari ST computer with a digitizer (mono) and 2.5 megabytes
>                of memory.  This should hold PLENTY of high quality
>                samples to throw into songs ...


>        One Roland Synthesizer.  I don't have too many details on the keyboard,
>                but I'm not very good on piano, so I won't be using it
>                too much...


>Now, here was my first idea on how mixing was done.  I created several 
>loops from various songs (for example, one loop from Shamen's Move Any 
>Mountain, and another from their Make It Mine) then, I would sample various
>things and play them over the loop.... this would HARDLY sound good at 
>all.  But, doing it that way I would only be using two inputs of the
>mixer board.  There has to be another way of doing this...

>Here are some effects I would like to achieve:

>        Extremely slow play speed to normal play speed.  Although easy
>                on a record player, how could I do it with the equipment
>                I have?  Example of this effect is in 242's second
>                'hidden' track on TFY ... right at the beginning... That
>                sounds c00l

>        Switching from one part of a song to another with a CLEAN transfer.
>                For example, lets say I want to play Move any Mountain
>                and in the middle switch to a slower 666 rhythm and
>                then switch to Make It Mine ... can it be done?  

>        Distorting the song as its played through the mixer ... increasing 
>                bass and nearly eliminating vocals, etc... varying the
>                echo, adding an ambient effect as the song is played
>                through  (possibly making a transition easier?)

>        Syncing a sample (take something like 242s "No Sex Until Marriage")
>                with a rhythm from a song that wasn't make around that
>                sample (take Shamens 666 Edit) ... 



>        If you have any other effects that you have found really make your
>mixes sound cool, please send them along.  I am extremely into industrial
>music, and I can't wait to start mixing some stuff.

>Any help (ANY help, even sarcasm) is GREATLY appreciated... 

>BUT, send all flames to /dev/null

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