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From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Subject: Re: Freeze Dried Ripoff!
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:17:17 GMT

In article <1e5rbqINN179@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth A. Wallace) writes:
>
>   Has anyone else out there been ripped off by Aaron Hopkins
>and his Freeze Dried Term? I have been waiting six months for 
>his product, the check was cashed in early July. I have sent him
>a letter with a photocopy of the check explaining I have not yet
>received the program, and would he please send it. I figure the
>only way I will get my money is if I take a little 2 1/2 hour 
>drive to Manhattan Beach and knock on his door. It is too bad,
>one jerk can make is bad on all shareware authors. Once again,
>do not buy his product unless you wish to lose $25.00. And it's 
>name would be better as Freeze Dried Ripoff Ware!

I received my .KEY about a week after paying, there must be some
misunderstanding here I believe. I sent 15 pounds to Ben Van Bokkem in
England and he put my .KEY file as F-Mail at his BBS. That's the way
you have to register in Europe, so I don't know about the US. Anyway,
I don't believe Aaron is a crook.






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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:28:38 GMT

mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger) writes:
>what usually happens is that the cursor will be quite happily sitting
>in the centre of the screen and then will suddenly decide that the top
>of the screen is more interesting and move up there.  It's very
>odd and I really can't see any reason for it.

Don't put pieces of cheese on top of your monitor... :)
Sorry, couldn't resist...

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From: bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper)
Subject: Re: What is g++?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.181636.797@news2.cis.umn.edu> davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu writes:
>In article <168A213D1A.C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:
>>  I cannot find anything like a manual or some basic instructions for G++, is
>>there such a beast?  My problem is that I am going to try to teach myself C
>>over my Christmas break, but I will not have access to the net from my home.
>>Could some nice guy help me (a relativly inexperienced programmer) out with
>>the basics for C programming?
>
>First suggestion: do NOT get GNU C/C++ to learn about C programming...

Amen!

>For the absolute beginner in C programming, I would recommend using
>Heat&Serve C (Ian Lepore's easy-to-install-and-run version of Sozobon
>C).  You can get hold of the program from the atari.archive.umich.edu
>FTP site.  The file name is

	atari/Languages/sozo133i.zoo

>As to the basics of C programming, go to your local bookstore, find the
>computer language section and look through the "Learning C" books to find one
>with which you are comfortable.

You should also be aware of a shareware package that steps you through the
basics of learning C.  It is written with an MS-DOS slant, but I found that
nearly everything ran under TOS with the exception of some stuff that 
depended on the MS-DOS display.  Look for the files c-tutor1.arc and
c-tutor2.arc.  They may be on atari.archive; I know that they are on
wuarchive.wustl.edu under /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/msdos/programming/c
and since that is a mirror of archive.umich.edu, it is probably under
msdos.archive.umich.edu as well.  There is a c++ tutorial kicking around
as well.
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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 16MHz & GEnie
Keywords: 16Mhz GENIE
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:39:04 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <1992Nov16.143321@cs.bham.ac.uk> dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley) writes:
>
>1> Anyone any ideas on getting my Mega/STE into 16MHz mode before
>running games which boot from the bootsector?

   Try booting up like normal (in 16mhz), then use DC-BOOTIT to boot
that disk.  Should do it...

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ATARI - Secret
Date: 22 Nov 1992 02:32:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz () says:

>COmparing the 2600 to the Genesis etc. is STUPID!  The thing is over 10-years
>old!!  It was probably the first home-'console' system ever introduced.
>(Unless someone knows otherwise).

Oh, yeah?  How old is the Atari ST?

It is getting up there as well.

Its just my opinion, but I DO FEEL like I'm playing with a 2600 (ST)
when I see what other systems are doing...

And PONG was really the first system, but it didn't play anything besides
PONG.


>
>Joy-Pads?  Yuck - only small kids can use those things successfully - the
>buttons, and the 'joy-stick' are far too-small!!  They are also crap for
>delicate operations.  A good ole' Quick-Joy Jetfighter will do me nicely...
>It's big - easy to handle, has auto-fire.

YUCK?  How many Nintendos, Super NES, and Genesis systems have been sold
with joypads?

I know many adults that play Nintendo and they don't seem to have any
problem with it.  I guess it depends on how FAT your fingers are.

Besides, Atari could always make the buttons bigger.

TRUE, there should be a joystick available, but a joypad should clearly
be sold with the system.

It is not only cheaper to make, but it also won't scare away anyone.
If you hve over 5 buttons on the controller, it may scare away people.

And think about the future.  If ever Atari joined the home multi-media market,
can you imagine a wireless joystick controlling the system?  What a remote!

> 
>12-key keypads failling?  Most IBM compat's these days have 12-key keypads
>or something very close, and they sure as heck aren't 'failling'! 

Do you know what the hell you are talking about?

Or are you just writing to see yourself write?

So, MOST IBM compatibles have a 12-key keypad on their game controllers, huh?

Mext message...

>
>
>You are just out to cause trouble, and are taking wild guesses.  Try
>typing 'unsubscribe comp.sys.atari.st' or whatever your systems command is.



I might be taking wild guesses, but at least I know what the hell I'm
talking about.

I didn't see you respond to any of the othe points that I made.

Also, if I was out to cause trouble, I wouldn't be so involved with the
Atari Community.


Len

Len
>

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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Comparing ASCII files
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:53:52 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:

>I need to be able to compare 2 ASCII files.

>The output should be switchable between matching lines and differing lines.
>Also, it would be nice, but not necessary, to have the program ignore
>white-space before and after text.

Get "diff".  Should be in the atari/Utilities directory of atari.archive.

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From: faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Subject: Re: CUMANA OS/9
Organization: Boston College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:07:01 GMT

In article <8ay1_2k@rpi.edu>, oyakea@vccsouth09.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake) writes:
>  Questions :
>   Does anyone have any info on Cumana OS/9 ?

I don't know about Cumana, but I do about OS/9.

I'm going to assume that the OS/9 you're talking about is the same OS/9 I 
know about.  I doubt there are two.  OS/9 has been marketed by Microware 
Systems in Iowa (or was it Idaho?) for over a decade.  It started as a 
assembly-written multitasking mini-unix system for the Motorola 6809 chip 
(8bit external/16bit internal).  That was first used as a controller 
executive system (real-time system), and then a whole set of business 
applications were developed and sold as S100-bus systems (remember them? - 
or am I showing my age?).  It was top-of-the line micros at that time.  
Eventually stupid Tandy picked up OS/9 as the OS for their Color Computer 
after years of hackers yelling at them to do so.  Then came the high-end 
systems translation to 68000 machines - and you can now get it (I assume 
Microware is still afloat) for probably over 100 machines, mostly 680X0 - 
including the AtariST.

It comes basically as a full-blown Unix system with the command names 
slightly changed to protect the innocent.  The difference from 4.3bsd, or 
SysV is (1) size is very small, (2) modular OS - add whatever drivers you 
like for your system - even while the OS is running (3) it's REALLY a 
real-time system as opposed to Unix hacks to mimic one.

It has been a few years since I've had any contact with it, so all this is 
retrospective.

> 1) does it multitask ?

yes. Essentially same way as Unix, except it can be a real-time sytem as 
well as general time-sharing.

> 2) does it have specific applications ?

It has a very large set of applications, as it has been used for many years 
as (1) office/accounting systems and (2) real-time controller and (3) 
Unix-type development systems.  The applications are basically everything 
you have that can be legally translated from Unix systems, plus a few 
hundred third-party applications - not the well-known ones, though, like 
Microsoft, Ashton-tate, whatever.

> 3) Can it recognise a network ?

Yeah, network capabilities.

> 4) What is it !!!!!????!!

> 5) WHat are os/9 's capabilities ?

See above.
-pete
From: sslee@micromed.com (Steven Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: sed or 'filename matching' source code
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:34:55 GMT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

I don't have access to 'ftp', so could someone mail me the source
code to the Unix utility 'sed' or source code to filename matching?
Filename matching would be like the following:
    .    match exactly one character
    *    match zero or more characters
  [...]  match any one character within the square brackets
           Example:  [ab]  matches 'a' or 'b'
                     [a-z] matches any lower alphabetic character
 [!...]  match any one character NOT within the square brackets


Thanks,
Steven

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: video questions
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:50:29 GMT

In article <17NOV92.15953331.0219@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> Alan Edwards <EDWR@UNB.CA> writes:
>I am interested in upgrading to a system that I can project
>grapics from an NTSC projector. Do the STe/Mega have straight
>video out as well as the modulated, or is it possible to get
>at the video signal and bring it out to it's own connector?

The STe, and probably the Mega STe, have RF out ports. If that's not acceptable,
I believe that the STe can be fitted with an inexpensive Genlock device.


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From: rogina@i13d7.ira.uka.de (Ivica Rogina)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Disassembler
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:55:01 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: uka
NNTP-Posting-Host: i13d7.ira.uka.de

Is there a disassembler which can disassemble plain code without program headers
and that kind of stuff. The disassemblers from a.a keep crashing or telling me
that they can only handle .PRG, .TTP, .TOS etc. programs, or they produce a
listing which contains one data-statement.

Ivica Rogina, rogina@ira.uka.de
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Which comms package?  Flash 2 ???
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:32:22 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
In a message of <03 Nov 92 18:18:51>, bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (3:713/602)
writes:

 >> I don't believe that STalker3 works under TOS 1.0 because my younger
 >> brother tried using it with a stock 520STfm (TOS 1.0) and it didn't
 >> work. He later installed TOS 1.4 ROMs in the same machine and the
program
 >> worked fine.  In any case, I recommend that you purchase a TOS update
(at
 >> least 1.4, better yet, 2.06....1.0 is almost worthless.)  Also, STalker3
 >> is an EXCELLENT program....it even runs in the background because you
can
 >> use it as a desk accessory.  Anyways, I highly recommend it.
 >> 
 b> Well I know this isn't true because I _have_ a 520STFM with TOS 1.0, and
 b> Stalker 3 works great!  It's the best modem program I've personally seen
 b> for any computer, as far as ease of use and flexibility goes, + you get
 b> the Backtalk scripting language to boot.

Hmmm - do you use any patches??  I've had problems with STalker under Tos
1.0 losing characters at 2400bps

 >> Spader....

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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From: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Help! TOS 2.06 requires jumpers set...I have resistors.
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:24:14 GMT
	<1992Nov20.001135.228@solace.hsh.se>
Organization: Knarf's UUCP-Center, Munich, West-Germany
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

hasse@solace.hsh.se (Hans Holmberg) writes:

>In <morrison.722192142@ee.ualberta.ca> morrison@ee.ualberta.ca (Robert Morrison) writes:
>>	So, what do I do?  Continue using TOS 1.4?  Desolder the resistors
                                          ^^^^^^^
>>|  Robert Morrison              morrison@bode.ee.ualberta.ca            | 

>I assume that you have a STe, and those resistors is on 1 ohm, so they
>practically are (more or less) jumpers. Just unsolder them and move them to
>the right position, and everything will work.

>Hasse

I always thought the TOS Versions for the STe were 1.6 and 1.62? Am I
wrong?

Knarf
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From: baumer@cs.utwente.nl (Han Baumer)
Subject: Re: TT and llamatron
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:23:59 GMT

wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> The PD/Shareware Llamatron, will not work on the TT.  However, if you send

It does work on a TT. 

> Jeff Minter his 5 (5-Pounds UK) he will if you want, give you a TT version, 
> with better samples and a generally better version (plus all the other 
> goodies).  Read the DOC's for more information!!

I got my TT-version of Llamatron from some archive. This could be
either atari.archive.umich.edu or sol.cs.ruu.nl. Check for llamabin or
llamatrn. 

> 
> (At least - if it DOES work on the TT, it'd be in ST-Low, with Cache turned
> off)

I am not sure in what resolution it work, but it doesn't matter, the
program switches to the correct resolution. But you have to set the
cache off (the program will work, but the sound are terrible then).


P.S. You have to be carefull with your joystick because this program
is a real joystick-demolisher. 


Greetings,



Han.



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From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.144927.4216@nntp.nta.no> otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:
>My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
>to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
>The problem is of course that in some programs, if it pulls down a menu,
>the program will not respond to keyboard inputs.  

My friend once had this same problem, and it could momentarily be
helped by pushing the mouse connector better into its plug. To solve
the problems for good my friend had to have his mouse-port fixed, it
had become loose because he had switched the mouse and the joystick
back and forth so much. So if your mouse connector is steadily in the
plug and the problem still occurs your mouse port might be out of
order. Or maybe the problem is with the mouse itself or its connector.

>My dealer tells me this is common to all non-atari mice, and is due to
>"very strong signals from the mouse". In my opinion this has rather to do
>with "very much noise from the mouse". Should I accept what he says, or
>is this behavior of my mouse unacceptable? Any authorized opinions are
>very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

I wouldn't buy that from him. But who knows ;).

>- Oddvar Tveito (e-mail: otv@nta.no)


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From: afraser@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Back-up program sought
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:12:17 GMT


Well, I am in the process of trying to back up my hard drive.  I thought
that I would get clever and arc together a whole bunch of files along
a certain path and then just back up my collection of arc files. 
(Figured that this would mean less floppies needed.)  
This process led to a couple of arc files
in the size of about 1200K or more.  I thought that turtle could handle
long files by just splitting them up (in the sense that uue does); but I
was wrong.  Is there some other good back-up (public domain or shareware)
program for which this feature is available?

Adele
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From: Alan Edwards <EDWR@UNB.CA>
Subject: Video-key
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:17:29 GMT

According to Toad, the Video-key is no longer available.  I would
like to get one, so if anyone has one they don't use, or know a
dealer that has one collecting dust....  Please contact me
at aedwards@unb.ca

Thanks
Alan


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From: smackiew@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sherry Mackiewicz)
Subject: HD fats, continued...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:48:53 GMT

Ok, if both fats are not messed up, you can use Blitzschnell to force a
read of the second one, and then do a small cluster move, which should 
rewrite both fats correctly.  However, if they aren't both messed up, the
desktop should automatically use the second anyway...
(The above info given to me by someone else..)
Good luck.
SDMR
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Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:37:54 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
> This all brings one big piece of trivia to mind...In the EARLY, 
> EARLY, EARLY days of Compute! does anyone remember reading the 
> article about the new computer being designed that eventually 
> became the Amiga?  I remember they talked some about the likelyhood 
> of it's becoming part of the Atari stable. Anyway....can anyone 
> tell me what the 'working' name for the Amiga was?  hint: Amiga was 
> part of the name (I think Amiga might have been the name of the 
> group/company who developed it)????

Amiga was the name of the company that made the Amiga computer. i 
believe they were under contract to Atari to produce a video game 
system. somewhere along the line Commodore bought them and it was 
turned into a computer. Atari later sued & got a cash settlement.

i picked up an original Amiga joystick a few years ago at a garage
sale for $2. it's a tiny little black thing with a red stick that's
about the size of a big toggle switch. still works, even after logging
hundreds of hours on Silkworm IV. best joystick i've ever owned & 
considering the way it's designed i don't expect to have to replace 
it anytime in the next 10 years. (unless i get a Falcon with those 
funky new keypad things.)

jason

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From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Subject: Falcon speed and bus size.
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:12:09 GMT

About the bus in the Falcon. I have seen two messages from John Townsend.
One said the Falcon had a 32bit bus and this latest one says it doesn't.
Personally I don't care. It will be faster than my ST, with better graphics and
thats all that matters for me...

BTW I don't even know what the bus is anyway :-)

Also, isn't it possible to remove the 030 processor and replace it with a faster
one, like the 50Mhz 030 in the SST accelerator?

Surely this must make a huge difference in speed?

Phil
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