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From: judyb@waldo.asd.sgi.com (Judy Bergwerk)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Deworming methods
Keywords: yuch!
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:13:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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My cat is having an ongoing battle with roundworms.  Overall she is
healthy, and if I hadn't seen them on her rear, I wouldn't have known
that she is sick.  She is an indoor cat, and unfortunately has some
fleas.  I comb her every night, and usually find 1 or 2 of them.  I've
tried using borax throughout the house, and have been very reluctant
to bomb it.  (What would I do with her all day while I wait for the
air to clear up?)

When I bring her to the vet, he gives her a deworming shot, with a
follow-up shot the following week.

Would an oral medication be more effective?  I'm not sure if she keeps
getting a new case of worms, or if it's been ongoing.  Has anyone
tried the treatment suggested in Anitra Frazier's book - The Natural
Cat?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Judy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Subject: Re: Q4U. Removing cat urine smell (yes, I've read the FAQ)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:22:56 GMT
Summary: Use laundry enzyme powder....same as the enzyme in the expensives


The enzymes in laundry products are the same as those in the expensive
odor-killing products, but they cost less than 1/3 as much.  They work
just as well.  Biz is one product.  You'll find it in your grocery
laundry section with the pre-soak laundry stuff.  Remember, you have to
SOAK the area and then cover it to keep it from drying out.  The smelly
area must be WET with the enzyme for 24 hours or more.  I had a sickly
tom stray visit me once.  Of course, I opened the door to see if I could
help him.  He immediately came in and jumped on an upholstered easy chair
and peed/sprayed all over it.  It was 3 days before I got the Biz.  I
made a solution, about as much as the water would dissolve, and saturated
the cushion.  Then I kept it wet for two days.  It is clean and sweet
smelling now.  I had moved it into the basement, it smelled so bad.  

Biz works as well on carpeting.  Just remember to keep it WET for at        
least 24 hours.


-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King
From: amys@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Amy Schlotthauer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Male cats (neutered)... Are they all lazy?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:37:35 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Glenn Stauffer <stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu> writes:

>Ever since my cat was fixed, he's gotten lazy to the point where the only 
>spark of activity is at feeding time.  He's an in/outdoor cat and is very 
>lazy in both places.  Inside, he tends to lay around and sleep.  Ouside, 
>he sets up under one of the trees and pretty much stays there until I try 
>to get him back inside.
This is very interesting because I have noticed the OPPOSITE behavior in my
Nyoka, who was neutered a few weeks ago. Although he still cares mostly about
food (used to be he cared only about food and trying to mate with his sister,
who also got fixed), he seems much more active now. These 2 play fight and
run around like hellions almost as much as when they were little kittens.
I should say that HE does this more, because my she-cat has always been
very frisky and playful. It is just that now her brother is a playmate 
instead of a couch potato.
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: "Soft Paws" (covers for cat's claws)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:55:34 GMT

In <1992Sep29.190941.37551@watson.ibm.com> dzenz@catskill.kgn.ibm.com (Dave Zenz) writes:

>In article <28570@life.ai.mit.edu>, marie@guppy.ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb) writes:
>|>
>|> In article <1992Sep29.121836.14801@watson.ibm.com>, dzenz@catskill.kgn.ibm.com (Dave Zenz) writes:
>|> |>
>|> |> Other than the "Soft Paws", does anyone have suggestions on how to
>|> |> protect furniture from scratches due to cat's claws?
>|>
>|> This is what worked for me.  I put double-sided tape (sticky on both
>|> sides) along all the edges of the furniture being scratched (in my case,
>|> a brand new sofa and loveseat :-(), and I also put one of those

>Sorry, I didn't explain my cats' furniture scratching well enough. The
>problem is that our cats love to jump on our bedroom dresser. When jumping
>on or off, their back claws dig into and scratch the top of our new
>maple furniture. And, when the dresser is newly polished, they end up sliding
>half way across the tops with their claws out full force trying to stop
>themselves.

>I have to get the tops repaired, but I want to solve the problem first, and
>only pay to repair the dresser top once.

Hm...wonder if a bit of clear plexiglass cut to fit the top of the
dresser would solve the problem?  It's either that or train them off
the dresser.  I don't think the soft paws would solve the problem you
describe (you would just get blunter nails digging through the
polish).

--Cindy
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: fraidy cat
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:36:45 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct6.202423.25127@pellns.alleg.edu>, dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu (David Blackburn) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.175307.6676@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>> In article <BvoG7w.MxM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu  
> (Paul L
>> arsen) writes:
>> >Help, we have a real friady cat on our hands and have no idea what to do!
>> >Whenever strangers come over to our house, the cat literal runs to the
>> >farthest point from them!  
>> >She used to be ok around strangers (taking a little while to warm up), but
>> >now she almost seems to be what would be termed agoraphobic in people.  She
>> >is not the friendliest cat to begin with, but what she is doing now seems
>> >ridiculous!  Any advice would be very helpful!

> Maybe it's too late now for your cats, but I trained my kittens to like  
> strangers by having every visitor give them a Pounce treat. Now I have a  
> watch-cat: A new visitor will trip over one of them. The other is still a bit  
> shy. For adults with a bad history, maybe it's impossible. But if you have a  
> shy cat that comes running for a treat, give it a try. Visitors should just  
> shake the can or whatever, shy cat checks it out, visitor feeds shy cat,  
> visitor is new friend-for-life. And of course any visitor who wouldn't do  
> that, well, the cat is right to hide from them. 

Kittens from about 5 weeks to 13 weeks are just at the right stage to 
socialize with people-- and they need to be around people at that age
to learn to see us as "big cats", I guess.  The more people the merrier
at that age.  Charlotte's kittens will be meeting my plant systematics
students in a couple of weeks.  (catnip family that day????)

Some cats, though, are not going to trust strangers.  Some of it is
lack of socialization, some is genetic, and some may be traceable to 
bad experiences with strangers.  So you may just wind up with a shy cat.
My much-mourned Catkin was _incredibly shy_ by temperment -- which is why
I kept him.  He just couldn't take living with not-his-people.

It may help, too, to invite people who are known to give off good cat vibes
(we're fairly easy to recognize, with that 3 ft tall red tattoo that
says "Sucker for cats!") ;-)   Stayed at a friend's house the night before
his wedding (he was marrying a vet)-- and she said her cats were so shy
they'd *never* come around strangers.  Well, about 3 am, I was thoroughly
explored and purred at...  The vet and her husband tell me that those cats
have been much more willing to try new people now that they found the first
stranger knew where cats need to be scratched...

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Wisdom needed: cat peeing blood
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:46:13 GMT

In <1992Sep30.185651.24013@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:


>FUS is a collection of problems - hence the "syndrome"
>part of the name.  It is quite possible that the
>cat DOES have FUS, but doesn't have the blockage that
>comes with the more advanced cases.  You will not SEE
>urine with blood if they are to a point where the
>bladder is full because the urine cannot be expelled.

>Blood is apparently due to infection in the bladder,
>and/or irritation from the precipitation of crystals
>and minerals in the bladder.

>My vet usually prescribes an acidifier, the DL-Methionine,
>AND an anti-biotic.  If it doesn't clear up with one of
>the antibiotics, she switches to another (rather like a
>human doctor would with an internal infection).

>Once again - be sure the food the cat is getting DOES
>have DL-Methionine in it - probably a good idea to have
>some of the deluxe prescription food for a while,
>and access to plenty of fresh DISTILLED water - be SURE
>it is DISTILLED, such as you would use for contact lenses.

>Ask the vet about anti-biotics also.  Blockage COULD 
>result if the infection doesn't clear up and the swelling
>gets worse so the crystals build up and cannot be passed.

>Diana

What is the purpose of the DL methionine?
Some urinary metabolite that helps?
Is the L form not better? Or is it that
the DL is  cheaper, since it is synthetic.

We have had cats treated for FUS but never with the methionine.

Thanks,
Allen
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Flea season part II
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:08:01 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

	Someone post a question earlier about flea season and when it
ended.  I was curious to hear the answer for the same reason.  I have
yet to see an answer posted.  If you (the person who posted the
question in the first place) got a e-mail reply could you please
forword it or could someone send me e-mail about flea season?

Mike

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From: time@coos.dartmouth.edu (Susan M. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.herp
Subject: turtles
Keywords: looking for info
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:36:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Can anyone tell me why turtles are so hard to find and why they are so
expensive?I imagine the reasons are connected. I'm looking for an ordinary box
turtle(proper name?). Are there reputable mail order sources of turtles and other
reptiles and their supplies?

Thanks in advance!

Susan (SMK@mac.dartmouth.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,sci.environment,talk.environment
From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: Beluga Whales Die at Shadd Aquarium in Chicago, Ill
Originator: alberti@staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:34:05 GMT

In <Bv80DF.Hx5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes) writes:

>Moreover, by capturing and doing research on these and other endangered
>species, we can learn more about their habits and lifestyles, and 
>possibly figure out why they are endangered and do what we can to prevent 
>losing their species through extinction.  Look at what captive breeding
>has done for the peregrine falcon, and what work is being done to try and
>save the florida panther.  If they were not captured and observed, we
>would not have a clue about why they were endangered and we also could not
>take steps to save them.

I might suggest that perhaps the best way to protect whales is to stop
capturing and/or killing them, and to stop destroying their environment.
The same would probably apply to the other species you mentioned.  Most
animals are quite capable of saving themselves from extinction, if only
we humans would let them.
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From: ann@plx.com (Ann Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Hedgehog care
Keywords: n
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:58:58 GMT
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI

Como Zoo has hedgehogs that are used in outreach programs.  You might call
the zoo and see if they have info.  If the keepers can't help you, try asking
how to contact the docents (education volunteers).  Since Como is in St. Paul,
its a good place to start.
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: Pigs- Why are they the perfect pet?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.201227.18062@techbook.com> cathy@techbook.com (Cathy Gaupo) writes:
>Someone wrote they just got a pig- and it's the perfect pet.
>
>Why is it the perfect pet?
>I haven't caught on to the pot bellied pig phase,
>and I'm curious why they are so popular.
>

   As with virtually anything, 'perfect' is relative & varying term.
 
   
    I live with an Oinker, & am very happy to do so, although neither he or
I are 100% perfect.
 
   If you're interested in adopting a PBP, research them, & then decide if
their quirks & traits are compatible with those of you & your home.



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From: vladimir@hq.chci.chuvashia.su (Vladimir Ivanov)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Who inrested in insects (butteflies and beatles)
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:52:26 GMT
Reply-To: vladimir@hq.chci.chuvashia.su
Organization: Cheboksary Information Center, Node 2

We have insects (butterflies and beatles) of Central Asia
for sale. All the representative species are found in
mountainous places of Pamir and Tian-Shan.

  Papilionidae /Parnassiinae:
  P. simonius taldicus Gund. /West Tian-Shan, Alay
  P. staud.kiritschenkoi Av. /East Pamir, Muzkol
  P. cardinal Gr.-Gr.        /W.Pamir, Darvaz
  P. actiues Ev.             /E. Pamir, Muzkol
  P. honrathi haitus         /W.Pamir, Karategin
     (13 species)
  Pieridae / Coliadinae:     /E. Pamir, N.-Alichur
  C. wiskotti Stgr.          /E. Pamir, N.-Alichur
  C. markopolo Gr.-Gr.       /W. Tian-Shan, Alay
  C. romanovi Gr.-Gr.        /W. Pamir, Petr-1
     (8 species)
  Coleoptera /Carabidae:
  Carabus emmerichi
  C. dokhtowrowi
  C. stschurowski
  Calosoma auropunctatum dzhungaricum

  All specimens are 1A quality with collection data.
  If you are interested this question, you can to write
  me by E-mail address:  vladimir@hq.chci.chuvashia.su

  Vladimir Ivanov
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: anne@cray.com (Anne Chenette)
Subject: Hedgehog care
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:58:49 CDT

My mother says there's a real, live hedgehog living in or near
her back yard.  Note: This is in Minnesota, USA, where hedgehogs
are not a native beast (or so I understand).  She wants to catch
it and keep it as a pet, partly because it will be winter soon
(temperatures fall to -20 F), but mostly because it's so cute.

Does anyone have any advise for me to pass on to Mom?  Do
hedgehogs make good pets?  Or are they crabby and likely to be
rabid?  What do hedgehogs eat, and how do they prefer to live
(other than naturally, in the wilds of Europe)?  What will this
hedgehog think of Mom's two cats and Lab puppy?

Many thanks in advance for any information.  Please email
if possible, as my netnews connection is flakey at best.

			Thanks,
			  Anne Chenette (aka my mother's keeper)
			    anne@cray.com
			      or
				..!uunet!cray!anne
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: sauron@femto.engr.mun.ca (Patrick Ryan)
Subject: Yet Another Amazing Ferret Story
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:07:19 GMT

Beofre I tell this one, let me stress that I was *not* in town when this
happened, so don't go thinking I'm negligent!  :v)

My ferret crawled underneath my range three days ago, and refused to
come out, so my girlfriend decided to leave her alone, and wait for her
to come out on her own.  She didn't...  Apparently, Chirp found the
wires under the stove very interesting - so much so that she started to 
chew on them.  My girlfriend heard her scream loudly, and ran into the
kitchen.  She deduced what had happened, and killed the power at the
box.  When she pulled out the bottom drawer of the stove, she found
Chirp there, limp and apparently dead, with her fur on end.  However,
when she called Chirp's name, there was a twitch in response.
     She then put the ferret in a travel case and went to the vet.  By
the time she got to see the vet (a gripe in itself there!  I got charged
a $30 "emergency fee", but it took the vet 25 minutes to see the
ferret!), Chirp was back to normal.
     The vet pronounced her alive, and said that liver damage was the
biggest risk - but since she had no black spots inside her mouth (and
has developed none), this hadn't happened.
     So - think you could chew on a 240-volt wire and live?   :v)

P.S. She's had no noticable behaviour change, and no visible side
effects.

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From: Linda_Richards@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: parakeets in the wild!
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:59:55 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

There have been many recorded sightings of flocks of various types of
hookbills throughout North America. Amazingly these critters seem a lot more
adaptable than we give them credit for. I read a story in one of my parrot
books about some smartass British noblepeople that thought it would be cool
to bring parrots home from the tropics to bring color to the English winter.
Some of them built "in-out" arrangements where the birds could fly into an
artrium or something for food and back out again at will. Too cool. The idea
probably would have worked fine if these same well meaning people hadn't
determined that parrots don't need water. And anyone who knows anything about
birds knows that No water + Parrot = Requiem for a hookbill.

Linda

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Newsgroups: rec.pets,sci.environment,talk.environment
From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Subject: Re: Beluga Whales Die at Shadd Aquarium in Chicago, Ill
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:56:02 GMT

orr@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Bob Orr) writes:

>I seek anyone anywhere in
>the world who wants to help stop the Northern wilderness from being
>ripped off.  The Canadian governement seems incapable of doing
>anything.

>	Determination to stop this stupidity will pay off.

First of all, the name of the aquarium is "Shedd" not "shadd."
Secondly, I suppose that you are against any type of animal capture
for the purpose of holding said animal in zoos, etc. for public viewing
and/or education.  My personal opinion is that IN GENERAL, people can
learn and/or appreciate animal life better if they are able to come
face-to-face with the animal.  It is one thing to learn about elephants,
for example, in a classroom or from a textbook, and another to actually 
see an elephant close-up.  I will be the first to admit that it is a shame
that these whales died after their capture, but I really feel that it is
for the overall benefit of the species that they are captured and then 
placed in an aquarium for people to see them.  How many people have been
able to appreciate the size and beauty of a killer whale by just looking
in a textbook?

Moreover, by capturing and doing research on these and other endangered
species, we can learn more about their habits and lifestyles, and 
possibly figure out why they are endangered and do what we can to prevent 
losing their species through extinction.  Look at what captive breeding
has done for the peregrine falcon, and what work is being done to try and
save the florida panther.  If they were not captured and observed, we
would not have a clue about why they were endangered and we also could not
take steps to save them.

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From: sanderso@math.rutgers.edu (Yasmine B. Sanderson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Hedgehog care
Summary: hedgehog vs. woodchuck
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:27:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


> In England they will leave milk to attract hedgehogs into
> gardens.  Hedgehogs will hunt mice and are considered good
> luck.
> 
> They are not native to the U.S.  Check with you mother's 
> neighbors to see if someone has lost a hedgehog.
> 
> Curtis Smith
>    curtiss@master.cna.tek.com

Now I'm stumped. I thought that hedgehog was just another name for
woodchuck. How can you tell the difference between the two?
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans)
Subject: Finding a Bunny Vet
Organization: Cicely Public Access UNIX, Cicely, AK
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:57:56 GMT

Hi, Ilana -- Thanks for sharing your experiences with Darwin. I'm glad 
everything worked out okay!

I posted about this before, but I didn't get much response (and, stupidly,
I lost the little I got). It seems like your tale is a good occasion to 
remember how difficult it is to find a decent vet for a rabbit. I need to find
one for mine, to do a neutering (and just for general purposes). Could anybody
who knows of a good place to get a reference in the Boston area post it? For 
example, someone posted the number for a clinic in the midwest who specializes
in rabbits and will give references. I didn't find a number for the House
Rabbit Society in the book -- do they do references? Also, some good questions
to ask prospective vets would help, too.

I'm sorry if this seems tedious, but it would really help me, and I also think
it's a good thing to go over again for new people. Getting a qualified vet is
tricky for rabbit owners, and so important! Thanks for your help.

Marty and Frankie

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From: liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker)
Subject: Cockatiles (sp?)
Summary: Pulling feathers out  
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:09:20 GMT

Hi,

	My parents just got themselves a cockatile (I think) the descriptions
of the bird fits.  The problem is that he is pulling out his feathers and
we are not sure why.   I do know that he was given to my parents by a 
previous owner and I thought that he could be reacting to stress. 
	Does anybody have any suggestions on why he is doing this and houw
to stop it?
	Thanks,

	Liana

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