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From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Subject: Re:  My DA's won't work under Multifinder... 
Originator: hshubs@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:03:41 GMT

In article <cd2ys3h@rpi.edu> nasadk@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <Bu5y08.GqI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, beyer@mrlaxs.mrl.uiuc.edu (John  Beyer) writes:
>
>[System configuration of 8MB RAM IIci w/ System 6.0.5 not running
>desk accessories under Multifinder]
>
>Did you install the file "Backgrounder"(sp?) It's purpose it to
>allow you to use the DA's in Multifinder. Without it, you can't.
>It gets installed in the System Folder.


I believe you mean "DA Handler".
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From: cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Il Hyung Cho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Error -97 with System 7 DA's
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:16:08 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: LORAL - Western Development Labs

In article <crk5-100992105624@mac17.falk.med.pitt.edu>, crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anybody seen error -97 when trying to use System 7 DA's?  I'm installing
> FileGuard protection software onto our Hard Drive and noticed after that
> the Calculator, NotePad, Alarm Clock, Puzzle, and Scrapbook don't work. 
> The Chooser and Control Panels however work just fine.
> 
------------

Check your "other" INITs and CDEVs because there seems to be a clash of them.
I had the same problem but after I booted with the SHIFT key down I had no
problems using my DAs.  I have not found out which of the INITs or CDEVs is
causing the problems but that seems to be the cause.

Il Hyung Cho
cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
From:  (dmatiske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:40:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Notre Dame

In article <D2150035.cl3t9c@outpost.SF-Bay.org>, peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org
(Michael Peirce) wrote:
> 
> 
> > Don't forget that the current estimated suggested retail on Win/NT is a few
> > hundred dollars on top of the cost of this minimal configuration. This is
> > definitely not going to be a low-end product. Even with site licensing (what
> > little that Microsoft offers), it's going to cost a fortune for a company to
> > buy copies for everyone, so they'll start with just a few initially. Like
> > you say, it'll take a few years to get going. 
> 
> You really never really know about prices until ship day.  I wouldn't
> be surprised if Microsoft has learned a lesson or two about pricing
> and volume from selling Windows 2.  
> 
> As long as there is some profit in it, you *can* make up for a cheap
> price with volume.
> 
> 
> There is a large installed base that will never go to Windows NT,
> but then, there is a large installed base that will never even go to Windows
> as it is today.  The big battle ground is what people use on new machines
> (Apple keeps this simple by not supporting System 6 on many of their new
> machines, Microsoft can't quite do that :-)
> 
> --  Michael Peirce      --   peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org
> --  Peirce Software     --   Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place
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> --            SMOOTHIE  --   AppleLink: peirce & America Online: AFC Peirce	
	One good thing about Windows NT is that it is going to sell a lot of
CD-ROMS :)
YOu can buy it currently for $70 bucks in it's prebeta form. IF it is
stable and does offers good multitasking and protection I can see it
gaining a large part of the bussiness market.  The major compliants aobu
the poor program manager(finder eq) can be remided by third party
applications.
	Of course it might take a couple of years to get a stable release. A
From: arno@apple.com (Arno Gourdol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: RE-Win/NT
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:52:10 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:54:10 GMT
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In article <0ef1s4200UhWI4gndI@andrew.cmu.edu> Robert Agustin,
ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>If anyone is interested, here are promised (summarized) features of the
>upcoming Windows NT:
...
>
>    -Interface almost identical to Windows 3.1

It's not a feature. It's a bug.

Arno
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From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Japanese & CHinese System
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:32:01 GMT

Still in search of the best dim sum place in Michigan! 

  lu> From: lchd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ho Ling Cherd) Date: 1 Sep 92
  lu> 20:05:50 GMT Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
  lu> Message-ID: <1992Sep1.200550.22766@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
  lu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
  lu> 
  lu> Can someone please kindly tell me where I can get a Japanese (in
  lu> Hiragana and katakana) and a chinese system for the machintosh? Please
  lu> e-mail me as I don't read this news group. Thanks . ... Ling Cherd .
  lu> --- AMB v6.33
  lu>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org [140.98.1.1] (1:107/10)

I have them on a CD that is 2 years old. Don't know if it works with the
current
models. Let me know if you really need them.

There is a Chinese System 7 released in Taiwan. A guy from Taiwan tried to
sell
a few of them thru the classified section of America Online. I was going to
get one until he told me the typefaces are not included. 

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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: How to assign F Keys?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:03:06 GMT

resch@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Keith Resch) writes:

>I have an extended Keyboard and I want to know if there is a program
>that would allow me to assign things to my F keys like undo in all
>programs and such.

-- 
Muff
From: triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: SpeedyFinder7 1.5.3 problem.
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:09:54 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: The University at Buffalo
Originator: triantos@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu

Hi, all.

I just dl'ed SpeedyFinder 1.5.3 from sumex.  The readme says to not open the
control panel until restarting.  I put it in the System Folder, it got moved to
the Control Panels folder, and I restarted.  Now, my right-most menu in every
program (e.g. "Special" in the Finder, etc) is spaced over too far, and only
the first two letters of the menu name show up.  The menu is still fully
functional, though.  Restarting with SpeedyFinder no longer there makes
everything a-ok.

Any ideas?  I've already tried re-unstuffing it.

-Nick

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From: ses@cmns-moon.think.com (Simon Edward Spero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: hebrew font
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:40:24 GMT
Organization: What's your clearance, citizen?
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmns.think.com
In-reply-to: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu's message of 14 Sep 92 05:07:11 GMT




If you download the israeli system installer and fonts disk from 
ftp.apple.com:/dts/mac/sys.soft.intl/israel (or there abouts), and
then run the default installer, not only will you get the hebrew fonts, but
you'll also get the hebrew keyboard and script system. Nu? Ma bayah?

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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ms window emulator
Date: 8 Sep 1992 12:20:43 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In comp.sys.mac.system, article <25572@castle.ed.ac.uk>,
  tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
> 
> Soft At with windows will be released probably at the end of this year.
> It runs Windows 3.1 (Windows is included in the price). The catch is you
> need a Quadra to get decent performance out of the product.

Will it display PC Windows in separate MacOS windows, or within the SoftAT
window?

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	When the politicians walk around with their hands in their own
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From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Subject: Re: Floppy icons won't disappear when disk is ejected
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:43:17 GMT

From article <88105@netnews.upenn.edu>, by isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler):
> Hello,
> Sometimes when I eject a disk from my Mac Classic 4/40 running System
> 7.0, the icon does not disappear. Furthermore, the System continually
> asks for the disk when I try to do something else in the Finder. 
> 
> When this happens, I try dragging the disk to the trash and using the
> 'put-away' command but nothing works.
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a solution to this problem?
> 
> Thank you,
> Sylvia Isler
> isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
> Sylvia Isler
> isler@gradient.cis

  Well Sylvia, you might try using command-y to eject the disks. That may
solve your problem when unmounting the floppy.

Joel Callan  callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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From: Jesse
Subject: After Dark 2.0s works fine with sys 7.0.1
Originator: cyen@ponder.csci.unt.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept .of UNT
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:03:38 GMT

I found something both funny and strange in sys 7.0.1.

If you use after dark 2.0s in Mac IIsi under sys 7.0.1, you should find the
speed of after dark is pretty slow, even when you switch speed to the fastest.

But funny thing is when you turn on the balloons help, the speed of after dark
will become normal.

I don't know why this happened. Do you have any idea?

Jesse

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From: Kazys_Varnelis@cornell.edu
Subject: Powerbook Ex's/Cp's Wanted
Nntp-Posting-User: kv10@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
Distribution: global
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:48:41 GMT

I'm looking for Capslock Notify and Cursorbeacon. Got any ideas where to find
them?

Kazys Varnelis
From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ATM for free, or is it?
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:09:19 GMT
	<cfarmer-090992095921@mac20-152.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

could someone please tell me how i can get a free copy of ATM if, as I
gather from this newsgroup and various other sources ( and if i missed
30,000 messages saying that this is wrong - just ignore this message )
Adobe is giving ATM away to apple owners...
please email direct...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Scott J. Kleper)
Subject: Re: WARNING: HATE POST! (was News)
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:47:12 GMT

hey, have any of you thought of this? This lady (and I use the 
term loosely) was so out of touch with reality that she apparrently
typed news instead of Jews, which by the way should be capitalized.
She's obviously a moron, rather than to try to let her know that 
we think so, let's drop it and let her go to hell.

-These are just my opinions, but I'm sure they're shared my many.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor)
Subject: Re: ATM for free, or is it?
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:06:53 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <18a73uINN2ls@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
> 
> 	Here's a question that's been bugging me for a while now. ATM
> was made available free or nearly free for a good long time now...

The "free" version ($7.50 cost for shipping and handling) only comes
with one type family: Adobe Garamond (book, bold, italic, bold
italic).  And it takes 4-6 weeks to arrive, even when you order via
credit card.

Included with the package is a "special deal" to get the standard four
type families (Times, Helvetica, Courier, and Symbol) for $49 plus
$7.50 shipping and handling.  Allow 4-6 more weeks for delivery, add
$12 for next-day service.

So, for $64.00 and a total of up to *twelve* weeks of waiting on
shipping, you get ATM and five type familes: Adobe Garamond, Courier,
Helvetica, Times, and Symbol.

Or, you could go through MacConnection and buy ATM with the "standard
four" for $53.  Plus $3 for next day shipping.  Then you can still get
the "free" version of ATM for $7.50 and get Adobe Garamond with it at
a bargain price.  Total price is $63.50 for ATM and the same five type
families as above, and you only have to wait 6 weeks maximum to get
everything (the most important thing - ATM - is there in a single
day).  Not to mention that you also get an additional -legitimate-
copy of ATM that you can give to a friend.

You tell me which method is the better deal.  <grin>

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ObDiscl:  Everything stated here and above is _my_ opinion.  Mine mine mine!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chrism@col.hp.com (Chris Magnuson)
Subject: HELP!  Virtual Memory Won't come back
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:36:42 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

  I had an install problem with AUX.  I had virtual memory on when this occurred
and now am having trouble getting virtual memory to work again.  Every time
I turn it on the Mac hangs after all the INIT icons appear in the lower left
of the screen (I get dropped into the debugger).

  How do I wipe out VM so that when I turn it ON it works properly?

Thanks in advance,
chrism@col.hp.com
From: landwebe@math.rutgers.edu (Peter Landweber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: ATM for free
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:10:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I understand that Apple has arranged with Adobe to distribute
ATM for free (+ shipping and handling) until Apple incorporates
it into a future system software release (not 7.1).  Does
anybody know if this offer is still valid, and if so, what
is the number I call?  Thank you.

-- Greg Landweber (landwebe@math.rutgers.edu)
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From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Scott J. Kleper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.app,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler 2.0???
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:16:36 GMT
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I'm pretty sure that it's shipping, but don't quote me on that. I think
it includes copy doubler, which will make finder copying much faster.
It also has an improved interface (which i think was much needed.) I
don't think that there were many, if any improvements to the compression
method, but I really didn't spend much time at the Salient booth.
From: jae@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jeff Ersoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Backgrounder in  6.07 insists files damaged
Summary: can't use backgrounder with 6.07
Keywords: spooling
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:17:45 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service

I am trying to use spool my printing jobs in system 6.07. All apps
give the same error msg, "file damaged". When I turn off background printing
in the chooser menu, the file prints fine.

I reinstalled the system but no luck. Any ideas?

Jeff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sell@wam.umd.edu (Steven Sell)
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 control panel
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:22:25 GMT


> Command-M? And what happens to us running non-US systems where command-M  
is
> already assigned? Is there a way to disable (or even better, change) the
> command key for "make alias"?
> 
Yes, this can be disabled (at least with the latest version Release  
9/13/92)

Steve
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:00:14 EDT
From: <JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: can't empty trash under sys 7 WHY?
 <1992Sep4.065544.25533@news.acns.nwu.edu>


In article <1992Sep4.065544.25533@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
amakkawy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (AbdelAziz Makkawy) says:

>I'm running system 7 on my mac cx. sometimes I can't empty trash that
>contains folders or files. I get info. from the file menu to make sure
>these items are not locked. I also try to force empty trash by pressing
>the option key while pressing empty trash. On occasions, none of the above
>works. I'll appreciate any help or suggestions.

What exactly does the dialog box say when you try to empty the trash?
Are the programs that created the tossed files still running?
From: andersm@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Hierarchal Font Menus?
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:44:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep05.194417.28926
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

OK, here's my question.  I have about 130 or so TrueType fonts installed on
my Mac SE.  When I want to use on of those fonts that is at the bottom of the
listing is takes an annoying amount of time to get there.  What I was wondering
is whether or not an INIT exists that will display the font menu in all
applications as a hierarchal menu with 26 choices (1 for each letter of the
alphabet?)  Then under each letter would be all the fonts that started with
that particular letter.  It seems to me that this would be possible because
I'm pretty sure that Adobe Type Reunion modifies the font menu to be hierarchal
but of a different form than I desire.  If someone knows of an INIT that does
this, please e-mail me or if you are interested in writing one and my
description is somewhat vague, please let me know.
 
	   					 - Thanks
						   Mark J. Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: c164-fd@po.berkeley.edu (Tim Suh)
Subject: Looking for World Scripts for 7.1
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:03:39 GMT

Anybody out there have the world scripts that were on the 7.1 beta CD-ROM?
I was wondering how big these things were (including the true-type fonts).
Particularly interested in the Japanese and Korean. Any way to get a hold
of these (through ftp.apple.com) or something?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: mcginnis-john@CS.YALE.EDU (John McGinnis)
Subject: Re: My DA's won't work under Multifinder... 
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:51:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.045127.30648@m.cs.uiuc.edu> chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian Chai) writes:
>nasadk@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski) writes:
>>What does Backgraounder do?
>
>It >snicker< runs in the background.
>
>
>But seriously, yes, what *does* backgrounder do?

It, in conjuction with the Print Monitor, allows background printing to a
laserwriter.  Hence the name...


-- 
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From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 1.5.3 problem.
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:49:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: comp
Organization: Apple

In article <BuKvoM.FLu@acsu.buffalo.edu>, triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B
Triantos) wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> I just dl'ed SpeedyFinder 1.5.3 from sumex.  The readme says to not open the
> control panel until restarting.  I put it in the System Folder, it got moved to
> the Control Panels folder, and I restarted.  Now, my right-most menu in every
> program (e.g. "Special" in the Finder, etc) is spaced over too far, and only
> the first two letters of the menu name show up.  The menu is still fully
> functional, though.  Restarting with SpeedyFinder no longer there makes
> everything a-ok.
> 
> Any ideas?  I've already tried re-unstuffing it.

Hmmm, works fine here. Perhaps one of your extensions or cp's?

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
From: kevin@vailbox.washington.dc.us (Kevin Michael Vail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Desktop strangeness
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 21:03:23 EST
Organization: You must be kidding!
Reply-To: kevin@vailbox.washington.dc.us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Mac Release: 1.0.4a

This past weekend, several types of documents lost their association between
creator and icon.  What's more, several applications lost their icons!  I
rebuilt the desktops of all mounted partitions several times, to no effect.
Booting with extensions turned off cleared up part of the problems, documents
know their creators now.  But there are still several files without custom
icons that used to have them and do have BNDLs present.

This is on System 7.0.1 tuned-up and sounds vaguely familiar to a problem
I recall reading several months ago.  Any ideas?  Oh, the hardware is a
IIsi, 9meg, with 280meg of disk space total.

I do not at present have read access to this group (if I did I probably
wouldn't have to post this), so please reply to me by E-mail at the
address below.  Thanks in advance,

Kevin

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