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From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:47:39 GMT
Distribution: ba

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.181828.15603@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
>> This ba.mc board is a great place to exchange information
>> which is relevant to us locals; let's keep it that way, and not let it 
>> degenerate into another flame forum with a smaller distribution.

>amen.

Fine, no flames...

I was forced to go to San Francisco yesterday, 45 minutes on the
freeway and city driving. (yech) My duties took me 20 minutes, and I
was headed back south. As I faced 101 south's 3:00 traffic, I opted
for 280. A little better... What's that? The 92/35 exit beconing?
Lessee, I could flash back and go back to work, or make the "commute"
a bit more enjoyable... Right turn! The ride up 92 was average, I got
stuck behind a line of trucks. Made the Left and things were much
better on 35. Plenty warm, but overall a fine ride. Be carefule up
there though, there was road destruction going on just north of
Alices.


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'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

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From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:24:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <1992Sep28.233441.26549@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij) writes:

>I got a ticket 2 weeks ago for parking behind a car at a metered spot.'
>Strangely enough, one was for the 3 feet rule, the other was for "expired
>meter."  Think about this for a second; there was no metered spot behind
>that car.

Last week, I was parked between two cars and I got a ticket for the three 
feet rule.  I always thought parking in between cars is legal, so I stopped
on of the meter maids and asked where is it legal to park.  Shie told me
that parking in between cars is illegal (in fact within three feet of the 
white cross markers are illegal), but since parkingis so bad on the
south side of the campus, they are letting us go on that, but if the meter
is expired, we will get a ticket along wit the car that is in that spot.
Normally, (such as in downtown Berkeley) that is illegal.  Also those 
bunchers of motorcylces that take up an entire spot, that is illegal too,
but they are letting us go on that, ONLY on the southside.

>So I'm contesting it (although contesting parking tickets in Berkeley
>is as productive as peeling scabs off -- and about as fun.)

How do you contest tickets anyway?   I never bothered before since I haven't
gotten too many tickets, and I figure my time is worth more than 16 dollars.

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think its time to change major"
From: ron@cats.ucsc.edu (Ronald Diaz)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Honda repair shop recommendations in South Bay
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:43:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu



I would like to field recommendations for a Honda repair shop
in the South Bay.   I live in Santa Cruz so it would be nice if
anyone knows of a reputable shop in that area but I'm open to
any shop recommended in the Silicon Valley and south.   


Please send me e-mail and will summarize on the net.

Ron Diaz
From: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:44:41 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morc.asd.sgi.com

In article <1992Sep28.210635.12590@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>}Ob Input:  If you are going south from San Jose to Gilroy or beyond, the old
>}Monterey Highway is MUCH nice than 101.  Not twisty, but prettier, more to
>}see, goes right through downtown Morgan Hill and Gilroy - doesn't take much
>}longer, either. 101 is straight, bumpy, raingrooved, and ugly till you get
>}down past Gilroy a ways.  Get onto Monterey Highway in southern San Jose
>}at Blossom Hill Road or Bernal Road - it rejoins 101 just south of Gilroy.
>
>Haven't been able to find my Thomas Guide; I think it is hidden in the
>bowels of my wife's car (*shudder*). Does the Monterey Road that Road
>Rider is on in San Jose become the Monterey Highway?

Yup, one and the same.  The Blossom Hill Road and Bernal Road offramps are
where it comes closest to 101.  If you are at Road Rider, just keep on
going south for another 5 miles or so and you will cross under Blossom Hill
Road.
-- 
-----------------------+------------------------+------------------------------
Dana Crom    DoD #0679 | Silicon Graphics, Inc. |  Smile - let them *WONDER* 
danac@morc.asd.sgi.com | (415) 390-1449         |  what you've been up to . . .
From: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: KLR250?
Date: 26 Sep 1992 21:57:16 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu
Originator: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU

I've been noticing Kawasaki KLR250's around, and they look like they could
be good cheap fun.  I was wondering if anyone who had any experience with
them could answer some questions:

   How cheap?
   How fun?
   Fun for what?
   Does the thing have any pickup to speak of?
   Can you take it on the freeway?
   And live?

Many thanks...


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                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: peer@ccrma.stanford.edu (Peer Landa)
Subject: Locking for a high speed moped . . 
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 12:41:26 GMT


Sorry to bother with some infantile questions . . but I'm locking for a used  
bike like Magna, Intruder or Shadow.  Is there any other similar (used) bikes  
for approx. $800 - $1200.  Or (this might sound odd) a real sport bike in the  
same price range.  Please respond by e-mail.

peer@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Summary: I take it back, taxi drivers SUCK
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:55:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.

I take back every kind word I said about SF taxi drivers.

Saturday, as I was driving down Army St., a Yellow cab did
a "Boston pullout" in front of me.  This maneuver is done
(by idiots) trying to get to the opposite lane - they pull
out and block the oncoming lane until the opposite lane is
clear.  Well, bonehead-hack did this right in front of me;
he obviously didn't even see me - so much for taxi-drivers's
powers of observation.

As I was skidding sideways and fighting to keep the bike up,
he finally, nonchalantly, cleared my lane, allowing me room to
swerve around him and just miss the back end of the cab, and he left
without so much as a look back.  A cager who had seen the whole
thing shook his head and exchanged sympathetically nasty words
about taxi drivers with me, as I drained off the adrenaline rush.

I'd vent some steam and call the hack a shithead, but I've
always considered profanity to be the hallmark of the
ignorant motherfucker.


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"
From: sfi@public.BTR.COM (Stefan Fielding-Isaacs  sfi@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: good roads (was Re: Enough of this DOD stuff)
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:56:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <k3_p2yc.edg@netcom.com> edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:
>In article <1a7qbqINN2do@fido.asd.sgi.com> danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom) writes:
>>Ob Input:  If you are going south from San Jose to Gilroy or beyond, the old
>>
>How about Uvas Road from the south end of Almaden Road. 

 Please guys.. Change the header so that it is meaningful. This
 thread no longer has anything to do with DoD crap..

 S
-- 
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs (sfi@btr.com): (415) 626-6069 voice/pager: (415) 599-4876
                dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting writing business)
   "If you're going to crash, then do it on the first lap because then you
    don't wear the engine out for nothing" - Jon Ekerold, 350cc World Champion
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: correction
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:46:04 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley


it seems to me that I either can't type or I can't speak English.  In 
every posting I make, there seems to be at least one typo or some other
error.  in my last one I wrote:

...I wasn't cussing at you or anything...simple joke...
(yes, "a stroy with a humurous climax" ---Spock)

this should be

...I wasn't cursing at you ... (i guess cussing makes sense too but...)
(yes, "a story with... (obvious, but still wrong)

I just know Im gonna keep making stupid mistakes like this, but please
bear with it.  After all, who ever said CS majors can type?  (ok, don't
give me a beating on this, most CS people can type, I just can't :( )

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"Project 3 is easy, so I think I'll stay with CS"
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Independent Biker mag
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:52:38 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1aoko0INNfld@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:
> Anyone else out there ever read a copy of Independent Biker??  

blech.  its a cross between GQ and "interview" and city bike.  basically a
wanna be mag.  when i first saw it about 18 months ago, the promoter said, "we
don't get 'bought' by the ads like _city bike_ does."  well, guess who the
publishers are (or closely allied)?  mars custom cycle on folsom in sf.  

-- 
--
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: eletric vests
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:57:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <dbc-280992013903@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>In article <23629@sybase.sybase.com>, thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
>wrote:
>> 
>> well, I was very satisfied with the vest, I was cool but alert
>> rather than cold and sluggish...  worn between a T-shirt and
>> a heavy flannel shirt, I was treated to a bath of conmforting warmth...
>> I would guess that the morning temperature was probably 50.
>
>You needed an electric vest for 50?  Hell, I've just closed the vents
>in my concord by then. :-)  Seriously though, 50F means either a long
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>sleaved shirt under the leather jacket, or a t-shirt with the liner
>snapped into the jacket and a pair of jeans (I just bought my first
>set of leather pants this weekend).  You ba types must be spoiled just
>like the LA types.  And all this time I thought it actually got cold
>by the bay. :-)
>

Yo !  Dude !  if yer so tough, what're ya doin behind that sissy
fairing to take the chill off !!

If had taken my FJ1100 (with the fairing which is NOT as cushy
as the one on the concord), I probably could've "lived" without
the vest... but this was my unfaired KZ440...

and Yo !!  man..  I have done my share of riding in snow, etc...
I just don't like the slowdown in reaction time and muscle
response..  
 
>> 
>> 
>> well, we'll see how it fares when the temperature gets into the
>> 40s...
>> 
>
>Man, you'd HATE Cleveland.

yeah....  you're probably right !

-t.c.



--
"We must be careful not to discourage our 12-year-olds by making them   
 waste the best years of their lives on preparing for examinations.  If
 we do not stifle their interest in science, one of them has a chance to
 be the new Heisenberg..."              - Freeman Dyson
From: news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:00:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM


 I split lanes here in SF. I probably shouldn't (it's not like
 my bike will overheat waiting for a traffic light to change)
 but I regard it as my prerogative ('cause car drivers try to 
 kill me every day).

 Anyway, I've noticed that taxi drivers appear to resent this
 splitting lanes mightily. Many's the time I've had a taxi 
 driver try to kill me as I pull away from the light. Often
 times they'll try a squeeze play, seeing whether or not their
 taxi will fit in the same space my motorcycle will.

 So far, I've won. I begin to wonder what's up with these guys.
 It has only happened once with a civilian (in some eight
 months of living and riding in the city). However, it's almost
 a daily occurrence with crazed taxi drivers..

 Anyone else have this experience?

 Stef
-- 
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs (sfi@btr.com): (415) 626-6069 voice/pager: (415) 599-4876
                dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting writing business)
   "If you're going to crash, then do it on the first lap because then you
    don't wear the engine out for nothing" - Jon Ekerold, 350cc World Champion
From: mercer@newton.apple.com (Paul Mercer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Recommandations needed: Bike for beginners
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:32:10 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep26.014845.19976@microunity.com>, ericm@microunity.com
(Eric Murray) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep25.164527.30529@davidsys.com> graphics@davidsys.com writes:
> >Hi, I am a beginning rider and this will be my first time shopping
> >for my own bike.  Can some one tell me which of the following will
> >fit me or any beginners the most.  My height is 5'6", I am potentially
> >very interested in something more sporty looking, but no too heavy like...
> >
> >	Yamaha FZR 400 (only available in used models)
> >	Kawasaki Ninja 250R
> >	Susuki GS550S
> >	 or any other suggestions???
> 
My first bike was a used Ninja 250 in '89.  Paid about $2K for it.  Had
lots of fun w/ it over that summer.  Dropped it a couple of times but I
didn't fret much because it was relatively cheap.  Once I decided I was
really going to like riding, I got a CBR600 -- sold the Ninja for a couple
of hundred dollars less.  Worked out great for me.

I've always had my eye on the FZR400.  Much more sporting than the Ninja
and much smoother (4 instead of 2 cylinders).  I've seen high mileage (10K)
specimans for $3K.

Paul Mercer
Apple Computer, Inc.
Blah-blah-blah
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: The DoD ERC (was Re: RSS)
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:00:44 GMT

In article <BvB9pp.BBH@Caere.COM>, mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones) writes:
|> The ERC day ends with a reasonably difficult obstacle course
|> "evaluation circuit," and perfect scores on the circuit are quite
|> rare.  But on Saturday Reid Ewing managed to win the coveted title of
|> "Ace."  The real fireworks were yet to come.
|> 
|> On Sunday we had not one perfect score, not two perfect scores, but
|> FIVE PERFECT SCORES on the evaluation circuit.  And now comes
|> embarassment because I don't have the list of Aces.  I'll see if I can
|> post that in the next day or two.  In any case, five perfect scores is
|> just unheard of.

I got real close in the corner. You said there was a min time
of 4.9 sec, and as I recall from the sheet I made it in 4.85.

I also remember in the hard breaking, I'd stopped a bit short
of your measurements painted on the ground. So, what is your 
shortest marking and I'll subtract 2 feet. I didn't see that 
recorded on the score sheet.

Oh, and my Lady's name is Ailya. I'll pass on your thanks
for the drink run. Her custom license plate just came in, so
if you see a red Radian with AILYA, it's her.

|> Those of you who were in the class, how about posting your impressions
|> and favorite memories too?

It was hot. I did good. I met some other people who net.read.
There was one person there who didn't know what the internet
was. One person in shorts, T shirt, sneekers and screaming
sport bike went by, and somebody yelled "SQUID!"

Good course, Mojo. Thanks. Again, and always, I recomend the
structured course to anyone who rides or wants to. It highlites
what to look for, and training is never wasted.

|> Mojo

---
Curt Howland "Ace"    DoD#0663    '82 V45 Sabre
            howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
  Don't bother arguing with drunks or zealots,
they're not listening to anyone but themselves.
From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: eletric vests
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:28:17 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Sep23.193004.25609@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-3gi@e260-4f.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
>In article <23629@sybase.sybase.com> thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) writes:
>>
>>(I had originally posted this on the company MC list only, but I figured
>>what the hell, it's probably at least as interesting as reading
>>about YSR50's for sale  (I hope)  :-) )
>
>hey, some people go around looking for these things you know.
>
>			Masa


Yo  Masa...  I guess this could be quite a task, 

	until one remembers to tilt the head downwards while looking  :-)



--
"We must be careful not to discourage our 12-year-olds by making them   
 waste the best years of their lives on preparing for examinations.  If
 we do not stifle their interest in science, one of them has a chance to
 be the new Heisenberg..."              - Freeman Dyson
From: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RSS
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:33:49 GMT
Reply-To: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bendenweyr

I don't want this to degenerate into a "I said - you said" flame war.
Let me just make my viewpoint perfectly clear.

I feel that everyone regardless of experience should have at least
one of the MSF courses under their belt for their own safety.  For
riders with no experience, the RSS course is the best place to learn
how to ride a motorcycle and receive valuable non-obvious information
on riding techniques that could save their lives.  For riders that
have already learned how to ride, the ERC may be more valuable than
the RSS, but you should contact the outfit that teaches these courses
and let them help you to decide this choice.  Even for those who
have taken the RSS, the ERC serves as a valuable refresher course.

The goal of the MSF courses is to help you learn how to manage the
risks of riding a motorcycle better without compromising your enjoyment.

				...jim
From: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RSS
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:57:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bendenweyr

c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
|> For a person such as myself, who is under 21 and has already been
|> riding motorcycles for a year and a half, I thought the course
|> was utterly useless.  But yeah, for a person who has never ridden
|> a motorcycle before in hius life, regardless of his age, the I would
|> definately recommend goinf to that course.

I have talked to a number of people who have not taken this course
and have been riding for years and still don't understand what
countersteering is.  These are people who feel that they know
how to ride a motorcycle and given that they love to tell about
their 105MPH exploits in the hills up by Alice's, must think that
they know everything there is to know about riding a bike and yet
they don't even know how they turn the bike.

Unless they've changed the course content drastically since I took
it 2 years ago, countersteering is taught in the RSS (along with a
lot more about street riding strategies and hazards to look out for)
and could save someone's life.

				...jim
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Never go to Accinelli's
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:26:02 GMT

In article <lcf6m4INNlnb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>I've never bought anything from that guy, but I went there with a friend
>when he needed a new front tire. The guy was pretty obnoxious and the prices
>weren't all that great.

When I've called him, he's always refused to quote prices.
He always says he'll match other peoples' prices.  When
you go there, have a price in mind for a particluar tire
and ask for it.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: robg@Apple.COM (Rob Griffiths)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Rentals?
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:11:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

A friend is considering purchasing a bike.  He used to ride years ago,
and thinks he'd like to get back into it.  Before he sinks some ca$h
on a bike, though, he'd like to rent one for a while, and make sure
he's as interested as he thinks he is :-).

So, is there anywhere in the Bay area (preferably the south Bay) where
he could find a rental bike for a while?  Type and displacement are not
critical; he just wants to try riding again for a bit.

Any pointers appreciated;
-rob.
-- 
Rob Griffiths    "And the future will be better tomorrow" - Dan Quayle
robg@apple.com   PP-ASEL-IA, looking for clouds .... B52s/REM/Erasure!
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Shoei X-8  Who has one?
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:11:23 GMT

In article <23913@sybase.sybase.com>, alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester) writes:
> 
> My particular problem is that I have a Seca II and I'm tall,  therefore the
> tiny windscreen deflects a whole lot of turbulence right at my neck which
> makes it sound like I'm inside a turbine engine at > 45mph.

     I find I have the same problem, even though I'm short and ride an
unfaired bike.  For me, it's just the way I hold my head.

     I found blocking the airflow with my hand really reduces the wind
noise.  Naturally, I can't do this habitually.  I should think the Noj
Quiet Rider or any of those other helmet collars would do the trick.
(Blaine, didn't you buy the Noj and report on it's wonderfull-ness a
year or so ago?)

							George

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