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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Roma and not Milan...
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:07:32 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada

In article <sf4DZne00WB9EZLY1G@andrew.cmu.edu> Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.210649.28066@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
>marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni) writes:
>
>>...showing Milan again
>>this Wednesday would have meant a Milan overdose of three games in the
>>space of a week...
>
>Well, that's not the reason. The point is that Berlusconi has acquired the
>right to broadcast *all* the matches of the Champions' Cup semifinal groups,
>including those played in Milan. Therefore the Milan-Goeteborg game (and all
>the other games in said groups) will not be broadcasted by RAI, but by
>Berlusconi's networks.

Wonderful; it's starting already. :-( I suppose that this related to last
summer's (proposed) changes in Italy's broadcasting regulations? From the
little that I heard about this issue while I was in Italy last summer, I
couldn't help but think that these changes would eventually lead to a
limiting of RAI's soccer broadcasts outside Italy, as RAI lost the exclusive
access to broadcast games *in* Italy. I wonder how long it will be before we,
Italians abroad and fans of Italian soccer, lose all coverage of the
Italian league by RAI, who is the only Italian broadcaster transmitting
to North America...

:-(

Marco...
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From: clive@snoopy.Aus.Sun.COM (Clive Blackmore - IR Australia)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Everton
Date: 19 Nov 1992 05:47:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: clive@snoopy.Aus.Sun.COM
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Keywords: Players

To all,

some one said that Snodin had been brought back, is this true

can anyone give me a line up for the last couple of games ?

Cheers

Clive


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ananda@ee.umanitoba.ca
Subject: World Cup '94 tickets
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:45:31 GMT

	I was wondering about the situation of tickets for the the World Cup.  If 
any one has any info. I would like to know how I might be able to obtain some.




	MAN. UTD    RULES!!!!!!!
       **************************
From: nurmela@katk.Helsinki.FI (Nurmela Risto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: OTHER THINK I'M SHIT BUT NOT MY HERO
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:29:35 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre

In article <1992Nov18.002810.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.104832.13318@phillip.edu.au>, t8914229@phillip.edu.au writes:
>> yesterday (16/11), the greatest thing happened to me:  MY HERO - THE GREAT
>> MAN HIMSELF - GRAEME SOUNESS actually wrote to me and signed it!!!!!  he
>> touched the piece of paper.  that made my year.  now, an autographed photo
>> of him would really make my life!!!!!  me, a virtual unknown, nothing, shit,
>> etc. and MY HERO would take the time to write to me.  you can't get better
>> than that!


>We need to know, what did your BELOVED say ?  Was it to thank you for
>your undying support during this season's slump, to thank you  for
>letting the world know how gorgeuos he is (or isn;t, more likely) or
>simply to ask that the next time he's down under can he pop by for a 
>quickie................

>My brother had a photo taken with the BELOVED but it was quickly removed
>from the mantlepiece in April 1991 for some apparent reason and has never
>been seen since.  Mysterious.


>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Sandy Mackinnon, 
>           University of Strathclyde, 
>                     Glasgow (still in exile at Brown Univ, RI)
>                                                    cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk  
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>       "Strathclyde University - A free drinking establishment
>        Brown University       - A drink free establishment"

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: mikel@lsil.com (Michael Lynch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Strathclyde Univ
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:47:46 GMT
Reply-To: mikel@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation


Could somebody supply the mail address for the University,
I am trying to get in touch with Dr Paul Martin

Thanks
From: eswaran3372@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re:Penalty shootout queries
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:17:27 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <9211211726.AA04433@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, gharpure@power.psl.ee.vt.edu writes:
> Recently someone asked:
>>2. In the '86 QF between France and Brasil, the penalty kick of
>>Belloni (sp?) was hotly contested because, after hitting the post, the
>>ball rebounded away from the goal, hit the back of the 'keeper and
>>went in the net. The goal was given but the Brasilians contested it on
>>the grounds that the ball was dead as soon as it bounced away from the
>>goal. I believe FIFA issued a clarification regarding this kind of
>>situation. What was the clarification? Should such a kick count as a
>>goal? 
> 
> 	Evidently it did. But there were no precedents to follow then, and
> 	now we have one. The idea presumably was that in a normal penalty, it
> 	would certainly count as goal. As long as the kicker does not touch the
> 	ball twice, there is no difference in the two and so it stood. I would
> 	be interested to know if such a situation was considered by FIFA or the
> 	referee beforehand, or did the referee make an interpretation on the
> 	spot and the clarification came laterr?

I believe the clarification was this:

If the ball rebounds and touches the ground, it is considered dead. In this
case, since the ball went into the net without touching the ground (the ball
hit the Brasilian goalkeeper's back), it is a goal.

Sasi M. Eswaran


Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: c9036719@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (I wish my conscience was clear, then I could dance on your grave)
Subject: Re: Aussie Soccer - Change of Luck ??
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:29:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.182116.28424@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
> timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield) writes:
> 
>>A couple of quick points on this. Firstly, the push to include Australia in
>>the Asian Confederation is a welcome move that is long overdue. Australia is
>>well and truly up to the standard of, if not better than, a large portion of
>>the countries in the Asian group - Australia's inclusion would, I feel, benefit
>>both Australia and Asia. My own theory for this one is that both Australia AND
>>New Zealand, clearly Oceania's top 2 sides, should be included in the Asia
>>group playoffs which would ultimately contribute 2 (is this number correct ?)
>>of the representatives at the World Cup finals.
> 
> The number is correct. Recent results of Asian teams in the World Cup suggests
> that Australia will have a good chance to take one of the Asian spots.
> The problem with including Oceania in Asia is where to put Taiwan. China
> has previously prevented Taiwan from participating in Asia, and if New
> Zeeland/Australia leaves Oceania to join Asia we'll have a worthless group
> on our hands. The other teams could also join Asia (a sensible move), but
> that leaves Taiwan in an Israel-like situation.
> 
> If just politics could be keept seperated from football.
> -- 
> Jesper Lauridsen       | Liverpool FC - 18xChampions, 5xCup Winner,
> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk  |                4xEC1 and 2xEC3 Winner
>                The Manchester United of 2015?

You are 4 years behind Jesper. Taiwan are no longer dumped in Oceania. Gods
knows where they are this time around.

Mick
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Derek Whyte
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:57:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <By0IuG.Er5@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid) writes:
|
| Could it be the that Derek Whyte being in 'Boro is actually improving his
|Scotland career, ie we've sort of forgotten about how genuinely average he was
|and Roxy cant be bothered to go and watch him? I mean whenever you watch the
|goals from the Premier League (The inferior English version) .......

And what other Premier League's do you know???? Or maybe you're thinking
of your wonderful (sic) Premier Division?

(yes I know we've been through all this before........:-)

gordon
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: Topical comments (Gerry's on the drink)
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:35:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov17.183515.22738
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <3835.9211171807@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>In articles <28212@castle.ed.ac.uk> and <1992Nov17.092042.14652@spider.co.uk> 
>"footballing side" (in the way most fans would understand it) despite
>Rangers being the much the more effective side (IMHO it seems). And
>why Gerry can't accept that you'll always be second best if you don't
>actually win. In England the League has been won in recent seasons by
>two of not the most attractive sides, Leeds and Arsenal. It is very
>rare for the best "footballing side" (which I take to mean most
>attractive as well) to win the League (some of the Liverpool sides in
>the 80s may be the few exceptions). 

Some Arsenal sides might take exception too. In winning the two titles
recently, they displayed some excellent football and high class finishing,
particularly in last triumph, where there scored a remarkable number of
goals during the season and lost only one league game during the whole
season. Almost every week Arsenal were contenders in goal of the week
competitions. Overall, that season produced the some of the best football
I've seen in 20 years.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Russians s**t on Liverpool
From: ioffe@chen.bgu.ac.il (Alex Ioffe)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:07:25 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

astro@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Phillip Vyp'ev-Zakusim) writes:
: >Spartak won the first game in Moscow 4-2!!!!
: >
: >
: >SPARTAK - CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:
: not quite... Dinamo Kiev can kick their butts anytime.  Too bad all their best players are overseas, plus they aren't playing in the same league.
:

Are you sure?????

The best Spartak's player are also owerseas. The average age of Spartak
is something like 21-23 years!!!!
Even when they played in one league Dinamo Kiev was usually beaten by
Spartak in Kiev and in Moscow.
Spartak was and is the best xSoviet/Russian team.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: csi095@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Dibble)
Subject: Re: ENGLAND TEAM
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:20:43 GMT

In article <1eg808INN9m6@edam.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phucn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss D A Hill) writes:

>l.   Chris Woods (Sheff Wed)   - Done sufficiently well to keep Seaman out
Tony Coton.....far better, followed by Tim Flowers.

>2.   Lee Dixon  (Arsenal )     - Showed last night he still has flair
Boll***s......he's the crapist player ever to pull on the white shirt...
Rob Jones is an excellient prospect and should be playing if it was not for 
injury

>3.   Stuart Pearce (Notts F)   - An inspirational captain
Here....Here.

>4.   Neil Webb  (Man U/Nott F) - Now he's on the move will be great again
Again......Boll***s...he's well passed it....Trevor Steven is still better.

>5.   Des Walker (Sampdoria)    - Classy defender
Here, Here again.

>6.   Tony Adams (Arsenal)      - A tower of strength
A tower of doggy do I do think.....Keith Curle should be there, Taylor must
remember that he's a central defender and not a full back!

>7.   David Platt (Juventus)    - Works tirelessly    
Half of his work is crap but I will let this go.

>8.   Paul Gascoigne (Lazio)    - Need we say more???
He's big, He's fat....but the most creative player we have.

>9.   Alan Shearer (Blackburn)  - A battler
Boll***s again........no replacement for Lineker....David White.

>10.  Paul Merson (Arsenal)     - Adaptable forward with skill and pace
Well I suppose we should have one ARSEnal player in the team or LONDON will
have a cob on :-)

>11.  David Batty (Leeds U)     - Strong worker
Well...........Paul Ince is my choice.
>

>12.  Martin Keown (Everton)    - Excellent prospect
CRAP Gary Palister

>13.  David Seaman (Arsenal)    - I'm biased!!
CRAP David James in a few years

>14.  Gary Parker (Aston Villa) - A classy midfielder with great touch
OK

>15.  Chris Waddle (Sheff Wed)  - Shows excitement
He's good on his day.

>16.  Ian Wright (Arsenal)      - A natural goalscorer
CRAP Steve McManaman (Scouse sat next to me.....)

>
>       Anyway,I know it's a bit strong on the midfield side,but with Gazza,
>Platt ,Merson and Webb coming up to support Shearer,we would have ample
>attacking options....
>
>The actual line up would be: -
>
>                       Seaman
>
>  Dixon          Walker      Adams         Pearce
>
>
>              Webb    Batty    Platt
>
>         Gascoigne                  Merson
>
>
>                       Shearer
>
>What does everyone else think?

				COTON
			CURLE		WALKER
		JONES				PEARCE

		GASGOINGE	INCE		PLATT

			STEVEN		MERSON
				WHITE
				
I think this is better.....flames invited......Give me a call Deb.

Dibble



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From: PKARLIOT%knox.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Let's All Wind Up Rangers (na na na na)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:39:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        Hey, watch out for Aberdeen; they are improving and are catching up
with Celtic and Hearts fast.
        G O  A B E R D E E N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                       Panos Karliotis
                                                       the only(?) Aberdeen fan
                                                       in the list
From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Sao Paulo-BR
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:34:53 -0600
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:35:18 BRA

 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************
             Round 3
 Group 1
 -------

(Nov. 14th)
  Place - Morumbi      Att. - 32.766
  Sao Paulo      4-2   Ponte Preta
  Rai 12(1)            Jucemar 16(2)
  Rai 41(1)            Jucemar 31(P)(2)
  Rai 12(2)
  Valber 40(2)

  Place - Vila Belmiro      Att. - 15.020
  Santos         1-2   Portuguesa
  Guga 44(1)           Adil 12(1)
                       Eder 37(2)

 Group 2
 -------

(Nov. 15th)
  Place - Wilson de Barros   Att. - 18.467
  Mogi Mirim     0-1   Palmeiras
                       Zinho 39(2)

  Place - Brinco de Ouro     Att. - 18.277
  Guarani        2-1   Corinthians
  Souza 2(1)           Nilson 39(2)
  Edu Lima(P) 27(1)


Group 1
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Sao Paulo      03   03  00  00    09-02     07 (*) Because First
Portuguesa     03   02  00  01    03-03     04
Santos         03   01  00  02    02-05     02     Group A
Ponte Preta    03   00  00  03    02-06     00

Group 2
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Palmeiras      03   03  00  00    03-00     06
Guarani        03   02  00  01    05-02     04
Corinthians    03   00  01  02    03-05     01
Mogi Mirim     03   00  01  02    02-06     01
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: CSKA vs Rangers
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:26:31 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501

In article <9211172142.AA28325@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch) writes:
>
>vlad says:
>
>> Afterall, UEFA is
>> the most fair and objective organization in th eWorld! :-)
>
>Now you also understand, how stupid, shitty and discriminative UEFA (as well as
>FIFA) is ! When Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Georgians, Serbs, Croats, Slovenes,
>Israelis were discriminated, only I understood it. Now they started to make
>Russians suffer, too... they probably don't like the fact that Russia is the
>best country in EuroCups now (see my and Martin's tables).
>
>Not only as an ex-Soviet, but also as a football fan, I protest !!!
>
>Down with UEFA, FIFA and all other fools !!!

And whilst on the subject of "interesting" decisions by UEFA and FIFA,
why was the Ukraine not allowed to replace Yugoslavia when the latter
were bannned from the qualifying competition by UN sanctions? Ukraine
got the short end of the straw when Russia took the place of CIS, and
there was the precedent of allowing South Africa to replace another
team in the African Qualifying competition. 

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"It's never too late to hate Luton Town" -- Danny Baker
From: Tricky <mfd91@ecs.soton.ac.uk >
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: OWLS FANS
Keywords: Wednesday Owls
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:26:06 GMT
Originator: mfd91@drayton


  I am interested in hearing from all the Sheffield Wednesday
supporters that read usenet . I am particularly looking for fans in
the Southampton area , and also in the Midlands ,that travel to Wednesday games.I am hoping to find some supporters to travel to games with ( this is
in addition to you , Hoppy ). I would also like to try and instigate a
system where somebody posts a report to usenet on every single match
for the rest of the season . If anyone is interested in a report on
the Ipswich match then mail me ( mfd91@uk.ac.soton.ecs) .

Mike
  

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From: bernal@sanandreas.ecn.purdue.edu (Andres  Bernal)
Subject: Colombia Nov. 18
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:52:29 GMT


From: EUGENIO CASTILLO SANTANA

========================================================================
|     Grupo A - Marcadores fecha de anoche       |   Posiciones        |
========================================================================
| En Bogota      : Santa Fe (2) Nacional (1)     | America      6.00   |
| En Cali        : America  (3) U. M/dalena  (0) |  Nacional    5.75   |
|                                                |  santa Fe    4.00   |
|------------------------------------------------|  M/dalena    3.50   |
|  Proxima Fecha : 22 de Noviembre               |                     |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| En Cali         : America   vs Santa fe                              |
| En Santa Marta  : U. M/dalena vs Nacional                            |
|                                                                      |
|=======================================================================

========================================================================
|     Grupo B - Marcadores fecha de anoche       |   Posiciones        |
========================================================================
| En Bucaramnaga : B/Manga     (1)  Millos (0)   | Junior       4.75   |
| En B/Quilla    : Junior      (0)  Cali   (1)   | Cali         4.75   |
|                                                |  B/Manga     4.00   |
|------------------------------------------------|  Millos      3.25   |
|  Proxima Fecha : 22 de Noviembre               |                     |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| En Bogota       : Millonarios vs cali                                |
| En Bucaramanga  : Bucaramanga vs Junior                              |
|                                                                      |
|=======================================================================

El Santafe gana con dos goles del Tren Valencia (ese es el equipo 10 y el Tren).Valencia tiene que pagar dos fechas por expulsion anterior.  Millos y Junior perdieron por penalties. Anoche Medellin estaba jugando en Peru contra la seleccion para eliminatorias al mundial e iba ganando 1-0.
Tabla de Goleadores:  Comas (Junior) 22
                      Trellez (Nal)  21
                      Valencia (Sf)  19 Me falta el tercero pero creo que es de                                         un equipo eliminado.
Amazonas es la nueva senorita Col, Bogota (hermanita de las Saenz) virreina.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Re: European WC 94 results and tables 19th Nov.
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:41:45 GMT

In article <Bxyt5D.7t0@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
>
>
>England...... 4   Turkey...0 
>(Gascoigne2,
>Shearer
>Pearce)
>
>            P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
>Norway......4  3  1  0 15  2  7
>England.....2  1  1  0  5  1  3
>Poland......2  1  1  0  3  2  3
>Turkey......3  1  0  2  4  6  2
>Holland.....2  0  1  1  3  4  1
>San Marino..3  0  0  3  1  16 0

Holland is 1 point ahead of San Marino and SM has played one more game.
No trouble at all for the Dutch team.

Holland and San Marino for the WC 94.

Louis Kossen
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: BBC Sports Coverage (was Re: Just laughing
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:40:16 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee) writes:

>In article 9211161724@thor.cf.ac.uk, scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:

[Long article I've already responded to under my nom de plume Rab]

>That was one of the point's I made earlier today - exactly it. I'm glad someone
>agrees. I certainly go along with all of this. It's up to the Scot's to show
>their own sport and teams on their TV.

..and who shall be resposible for showing the networked sports programs to
the whole of Britain?  England?
That's what we appear to have at the moment.

Dave

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From: jmarold@netlink.cts.com (Jeff Marold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: GERMAN WORLD CUP TEAM '94
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:25:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: netlink.J19euB5w165w
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

How does Germany look for '94? Third consecutive final? Who figure to be 
the stars of the team?

- Jeff Marold

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