From: sinhaa@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Anand Sinha)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:18:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.220439.10887@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (roger maynard) writes:
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>>READ MY LIPS ROGER AND THE REST OF YOU ::
>
>won't have this problem anymore because I won't be able to see your "LIPS".
>You are now parked in a different directory in a file named "kill".

Ah, maturity. Nyah Nyah I'm closing my eyes and covering my ears so I
can't hear you. 
>
>>STATHEADS(tm) ARE BASEBALL FANS FIRST. WE USE STATISTICS TO, IN OUR OPINION,
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>Nobody is questioning this.  Why do you feel that it is necessary to say so?

Ah, but the "anti-stat" group *always* questions this.  Why then are there 
always posts like "Get out and watch a game." "Have you ever played baseball",
and the like? Oh I forgot, I'm in your kill file, so you can't answer this
question.

>
>>GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME. WE DON'T BELIEVE IN INSIPID STATS LIKE
>
>My opinion - and I don't have to spell it with my capslock on - is that
>stats can give you a distorted view of the game.  Certainly a different
>understanding and not necessarily "better".

Distorted? Hardly. Different yes. But not distorted.

>
>>that won the WS in '88.  On the other hand, I hold no illusions about his
>>value to the Blue Jays in 1992. He has little or none, save that he may be
>>a good influence to the rest of the team. I'd be a good influence for less than
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>not likely...

And just how do you know this? From my 2 or 3 posts on the net? Or from 
my one *Very* inflammatory response to you? Now there's a basis to go on.

As a matter of fact, I am a good influence on those I work with.  Too bad
that I don't get paid more for it, like you seem to think Alfredo, Dan Gladden
et. al. should.
>
>>1/10 of the $1mil he's making this year. 
>>And, probably, I could generate about as much offense as Alfredo.  
>
>Well you have generated more offense in this post than Griffin is likely to
>produce this year... 
I've offended you? Ah shucks. I wanted to piss you right off the net. 
>
>>and defensively, a liability.  His clubhouse spirit is not measurable, nor can
>
>Alfredo had, "statistically", the best range of any regular SS in the NL 
>last year.

Hm. He had the best PO+A/9inn of any regular SS in the NL. Doesn't take into
account all the balls that went for basehits that he couldn't reach. Oh I 
forgot, you aren't reading this are you Roger?
>
>Are you the clown from Hamilton?  Are you this upset because I don't think that
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Clown? Oh, now there's a way to persuade me, or make me listen to any piece of
crap that you have to say.  You complain about others being offensive, yet 
your tone of writing has to be the most offensive of anyone's I've ever
read. More condescending, more immature, and totally devoid of all reason, 
commonsense and courtesy.

>Hamilton is a major league city?  Sheesh...I was born 22 miles from Hamilton...
>I think my opinion about Hamilton is just as valid as yours...Maybe you
>should get out of town some more...Ever go to Buffalo????

yeah I have been to Buffalo. Your knowledge of Hamilton is obviously lacking.

Anand Sinha
Blue Jays #1 -> all the way in '92
Robbie Alomar for MVP
Juan Guzman for Cy Young