From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Asian-male stereotyping, how?
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:52:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.215424.11210@sarah.albany.edu> ks4816@albnyvms.bitnet
writes:
>[Chinese-cu stupidity deleted]
>My view on your "distinctions" is that they are full of crap! For anyone who
>KNOWS anything about ANY specific culture/ethnicity, they would be able to
>realize that it is very hard to distinguish between people utilizing such
>distinctions. As a matter of fact if you asked around, there aren't that many
>people who are able to say that their culture hasn't had any effect on them AT
>ALL!! Culture AND genetics influence people and regardless of how you like to

Like I said, Chinese-cu people think that Japanese-(ge-)Americans will do
the Japanese-cu "thing" because they are Japanese-ge.  Curiously, this
is a view shared by rednecks, Klansmen, and Nazis.

>delude yourself, EVEN YOU are "blighted" (sticking with your definitions) by
>your cultural and genetic background.    
>With regards to "rednecks, Klansmen, and Nazis", I'd just like to say that
>they
>all have something in common with you. You all judge and condemn people based
>on one thing. In your case, it's a person's name. If his/her name is "Lee" (no

No, I have distinctly said about 5 times this year that we cannot
judge a person's culture by her last name.  For example, numerous Chinese-cu
bigots assumed that Chancellor Tien of the UC campus was Chinese-cu
because he had Chinese-cu last name.

I insisted, apparently in vain, that we could not assume anything about
him since we've never met him.  We can't possibly know that he is
Chinese-cu.  He could be American-cu.  I mean.  He could have learned,
after arriving in this country, that it was Chinese-cu who massacred 
20,000 Taiwanese-ge around 1949.  Then, he could then have concluded that he
didn't want to have anything to do with Chinese-cu culture.

>offence to any Lee's out there) then they MUST be evil scum of the earth and

I give people the benefit of the doubt until they make comments like
"Chinese-ge = Chinese-cu", "Japanese-(ge-)Americans do the Japanese-cu
'thing' because they are Japanese-ge", etc.

If someone makes comments like this, I tend to think that he is Chinese-cu,
regardless of his ethnicity.  There are non-Chinese-ge Chinese-cu.

My suspicion that Ms. Jenny Shum is Chinese-cu is not based on her
last name.  Only a Chinese-cu bigot would make that kind of conclusion.
My suspicion that Ms. Shum is Chinese-cu is based on her assertion that
(1) Chinese-ge = Chinese-cu and (2) Chinese-ge are a race.

I know of no one, except Chinese-cu people, who believe that #1 and #2
are true.  Ms. Shum is an example of someone who believes in #1 and #2.
Therefore, I suspect that she is Chinese-cu; this has nothing to do with
her last name.

>deserve to be shot down by the "One Who Knows What Havoc Chinese Can Cause". 

I care very much about Chinese-ge children--in fact, all children.
I challenge Ms. Shum to find me the place where I even remotely criticize
Chinese-ge children.

Unless she fabricates something, she won't be able to find anything of
the sort.  I am fairly confident that some Chinese-ge children have been
helped by the charities to which I have donated.

>[Chinese-cu stupidity deleted]
>Jinsei wa "acceptance" dewa arimasen.

Chotto.  Shum-san wa chuugokujin(-cu) mitai desu nee.  Doobutsu no yoo ni
kangaetari yattari suru kara.

Chuugokujin(-cu) wa ningen no yoo ni kangaetari yattari shi sae sureba
sekai wa motto ii naru deshoo.  Demo ima chuugokujin(-cu) wa hantai desu.
Hontoo ni taihen warui hito da.

Chuugokujin(-cu) no kodomo wa chuugokujin no ryooshin to hanarete Nikkeijin
ya Doitsu-Amerikajin nado no kazoku to sunda hoo ga ii yo.  Kodomo wa 
ii ryooshin ni sodaterareta hoo ga ii desu kara.  Hontoo desu yo.

Have a nice day.

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