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From: v105mahs@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Peter P. Donohue)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Fuzzy
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:33:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.085540.14072@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, jkw@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (John K. Wheeler III) writes...
>I recently saved a ball python from my local Animal Control for
>the low cost of $30. I was pretty happy about, since I was ready
>to go up from numerous smaller snakes. Today I bought a closed-eye
>fuzzy for the snake to eat. Naturally the snake decided it wasn't
>hungry right now. Now I have a fuzzy and a snake. I don't want the
>mouse to stare to death, nor do I
>I like the idea of having to kill the little guy. At such a young
>age what should I feed the mouse, or would I be better to put it
>down now. The one arternative I can think of is to leave it in
>with the python until it finally get's the idea. It is currently
>being to refered to as "The Snake", because I refuse to call it
>"Monty" like my ex-roommate suggested today. 

   I do not think you will be able to save the mouse.  You could either 
freeze it for future use (yes, many snakes will eat defrosted mice) or
return it to the pet store.  
   Ball pythons are often picky eaters.  There is a small book by 
deVosjoli that is published by Advanced Vivarium Systems.  This
book says that you should leave a newly aquired ball python in a
tank for 2 weeks before feeding or handling.  Give the guy some time 
to get used to his home.
   After that you can try feeding.  Make sure that the temperature is
in the mid 80s.  Also provide the snake with a hiding place (a box or
the like).  I've heard rumors that increasing the humidity also will 
help them feed.  You may want to try spraying him every once in a
while with water.  Don't flood him and do let things dry - you don't
want excessive bacteria to form.
   Food wise, you can try mice or baby rats.  If they don't work, try 
a gerbil (which are closely related to gerbillas - their natural
food).  In all cases, make sure the rodent doesn't start nibbling on
the snake.
   For more info, check out the newsgroup REC.PETS.HERP.  It is 
primarily for reptiles and amphibians.  Lots of knowledgeable people.

					Pete

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bitnet:   V105MAHS@UBVMS                . I've stopped looking for a job...
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From: Auferret@CVMMDL1.MSstate.EDU (Jennifer Au)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Getting worried about my ferrets weight
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:38:12 GMT
Organization: Miss. State U. College of Vet. Med.

In article <set.702759435@harry.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>, set@cis.ksu.edu (Toaster Man) writes:
> 
> I have been watching my youngest ferret latley and I seem to have a concern
> about his weight.  He is a male spayed and descented.  I have 2 ferrets
> the oldest Bear doesnt seem to have a weight problem.  Know for the past
> 4 days I have noticed that he doesnt seem to be eating or at least not that
> I can see.  Since I have school and lots of projects I havnt been around much
> to watch thier eating habbits.. This is really worring me about this..
> Whats this about swollen voluo (sp)? What should I watch for ?  I have had
> this hunch that the older ferret hasnt been letting him eat from the bowl.
>
Steve,  
   The vulva is the external opening to the female's reproductive tract. Since 
you have 2 males this isn't something you need to worry about. If you had 
an intact female, her vulva would swell when she goes into heat. It can also
occur in spayed females that have a disease called Hyperestrogenism.
> I dont know.. I havnt had any problems with my ferrets at all, but this doesnt
> seem write! What should I do or look for? force feed? put jelly on the ferret
> food (since my ferrets seem to like jelly)  confine him to the cage with a bowl
> full of food?  Help please respond soon..
> 
Do you know your ferrets normal weight? You should weigh them occassionally
so you know their weight. Ferret's weights ussually fluctuate with the 
season. They gain in the winter and loss in the spring although some ferrets
seem to do this backwards. Severe weght loss isn't normal. He could have an
intestinal blockage or bacteria. Have you noticed any diarrhea, vomitting?
Isolate your ferret and measure his food to get an idea of what if anything
he is eating. A 7 month old ferret shouldn't be loosing weight.
You can also try giving him some Nutrical. It's a calorie supplement that
some ferrets really like. If he really has quite eating, get him to the vet.
     Jenny Au
> info. both males,spayed and descented,  Bear is almost 1 year old and Smokey
> is about 7 months old.
> 
> 
> -steve tietze
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: ar12@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard Nixon)
Subject: One Sick Ferret
Reply-To: ar12@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:30:50 GMT

Gizmo (my 1 yr old male sable) had a close brush with the grim reaper this
weekend... I got home from work Thurs to find him sprawled out in his cage
(usually he's up and ready to go the second I get home)- I picked him up
and he really wasn't moving that much- when I set him don he just began
to vomit all over the place. I immediately got on the phone and after 
having spoken with about a half dozen vets decided it would be best to
simply rush him back to Milwaukee to see his regular vet. Anyway, in the
mean while, he stopped vomitting and then started with the worst case
of diahrea(sp?) immaginable- complete with blood in his stool. Anyway,
It was midnight when I got him in to the emergency clinic where they
diagnosed him with an intestinal infection and prescribed anitbiotics.
By the way, I had noticed that for two days prior to this episode he had
lost his appetite. Although I was somewhat concerned at the time, he was
still acting his "normal" ferret self so I really didn't think much of it.
Anyway, he's much improved now and his appetite is returning.
Andre

From: cobra@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roland Dudley)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:32:26 GMT
Subject: Re: need rabbit vet in SJ area
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets

mikeeb@sco.COM (Michael E. Bays) writes: 

>looking for a vet that is good with rabbits
>in the San Jose area.

----------

I like the Burbank Pet Hospital on West San Carlos (295-3030).
One of the few places found that would give advice over the phone.

Roland
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: schwae@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Potty Training a Ferret
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:00:34 GMT

In article <92101.010553PEGUES@NDSUVM1.BITNET> T. Scott Pegues <PEGUES@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>Perris is Tommy's new baby ferret.  We are having a lot of fun with her, but we
> don't know how to potty train her.  We do know that she likes corners, but not
>always the ones we do.... poor carpet :(  Your help is much appreciated, please
>respond quickly, patients is wearing thin.
>
When you see her head for a corner, pick her up and quickly put her where
she belongs.  Then when she uses the right spot, praise and reward her.  

E.S. Hershey and Nestle'
From: Auferret@CVMMDL1.MSstate.EDU (Jennifer Au)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Ferret losing hair on tail
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:42:49 GMT
Organization: Miss. State U. College of Vet. Med.

In article <1992Apr14.222324.8681@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, sar26657@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sam Roseman) writes:
>
Sam,
   It is normal for the ferret to lose the hair on his tail. I had one with
a bald tail for over a year. If the hair loss progrsses, however, then it 
isn't normal. If the hair starts disappearing at the base of the tail, up the
back or other places then it isn't normal.  Hair loss that is bilaterally
symmetrical on the body indicates Cushing's (adrenal tumor) and needs to be 
examined by a vet. Since your ferret's hair grows back it doesn't sound like
you have anything to worry about. Your ferret will just have "rat tail" for 
a while. 
          Jenny Au

> my ferret, mookie, loses hair on her tail every once
> in a while.  I think it might be stress or something ( yeah, right)...
> After a while it usually grows back.. i was just wondering if this was
> normal or if im doing something wrong.  thanks for any responses.
> 
> Sam Roseman
> U of Illinois
> 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: hartman@dewey.udel.edu (Nancy Hartman)
Subject: Re: Getting worried about my ferrets weight
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:29:56 GMT

In article <set.702759435@harry.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> set@cis.ksu.edu (Toaster Man) writes:
>I have been watching my youngest ferret latley and I seem to have a concern
>about his weight.  He is a male spayed and descented.  I have 2 ferrets

This is in addition to Jenny's very good suggestions:

Check him immediately to make sure he's not getting dehydrated.  You can do
this by pinching the skin on his neck/back.  Pull as much up as you can,
without hurting him.  A normal ferret's skin will, almost immediately, bounce
back (check your healthy ferret for a comparison).  If it doesn't TAKE HIM
TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY!!!!  If he's dehydrated, you may notice that he'll
make a "raspy" noise with his tongue.

I have to go to class.  More later.

- Nancy

-- 
Nancy Hartman					CIS graduate student
hartman@udel.edu				U. of Delaware
        President and founder, Delaware Valley Ferret Club
                      Owner of Percy & Bree
From: chsu@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Christine Hsu)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:55:45 GMT
Subject: Looking for French Lop Rabbits
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets


I've called quite a few places, but everyone seems to sell only
Mini and Holland lops-- 

Any information about French lop rabbit breeders or stores that
sell French lops would be appreciated.

Thanks--

Christine
chsu@corp.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: Mark A Gsellman <mgsellma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Thank you
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:47:08 GMT

I'd just like to thank Joyce, Eve, and Katie for giving me some great 
information and stories about ferrets and dogs.

At first when I started reading about ferrets on this news group, I wondered
what was so great about these little animals.  Now I have a better 
understanding of them and in the process have become very interested in 
getting one for myself.  If and when I do, I will let y'all know how it goes
and maybe y'all can help with a name.

Once again, Thanx to those who responded.

-Mark-
From: riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: MIKE CLARK (looking for GSD) -- Are you out there?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Mike --

Kitty Cummings contacted me.  She lost your email address and
needs to get in touch with you.  I have also lost your email
address.  Please contact either me < riacmt@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu >
or Kitty < kcumming@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu > as soon as
possible.

Carol Miller-Tutzauer
riacmt@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: meagher@watson.bms.com 
Subject: Animal Prayer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:33:00 GMT


    	Does anyone out there have a copy of the animal prayer? Please 
    	E-mail or post. I saw it years ago on a Hallmark card and I'm 
    	still trying to locate it. Thanks to anyone who can help.

    	Debi
 		     ___________________________________	
   		    (	Scientific Information Systems  )
    		     \	      Debra. A. Meagher        / 
    		      \	  Scientific Support Analyst  /
    		       \   E-mail: MEAGHER@BMS.COM   /
    		        \   Phone : 609.252.4647    / 
    		         \_________________________/
From: camel@hardy.u.washington.edu (Susan Collicott)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Ferrets & Allergies
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:41:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr12.174139.9388
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


about vacuuming often - a friend of mine discovered that her dogs are 
bothered by dusty rooms, so she started vacuuming more often, and they got 
worse!  The vet says that many times, the air coming out of the vacuum is 
what annoys people and pets.  Solution?  Buy a carpet sweeper!  Saves on 
electricity, helps improve those arm muscles, and helps create a better 
dust-free environment.  Also, the vet said to try Endust and dust once a 
week and leave the animals out of that room for at least an hour, to let the 
air settle.  

Susan
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: king@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joyce.l.king)
Subject: Re: Ferrets and Nutrical;  also, bald tail
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:02:19 GMT
Summary: NutriCal...a ferret's dream food

In article <1992Apr16.140452.23194@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas) writes:
> I have a question,
> 
> What is nutrical (i.e. is it the same as Ferretone?)

NutriCal is a food supplement.  I think it is made for dogs.  You get
it from your vet.  There is an equivalent you can get at the pet store
that is a food supplement for DOGS.  This is not linatone or ferretone.
It's a gel that smells like beef broth.  My ferrets would go up against
a grizzly to guard their NutriCal.  A tube at the vets runs $5 - $6.
The equivalent at the pet store can go to $8.  

Note:  this is NOT just a vitamin supplement.  It is a high-calorie protein
supplement.  It's made for dogs that are not eating for some reason...or
who need extra calories (like pregnancy or lactating, for instance).  Or
after surgery.  Anyway, there is much more to it than vitamins.

Now, about the bald tail.  I went through the bald tail syndrome on and off
over the years.  Then somebody on the net suggested higher protein.  I was
feeding IAMS cat food with NutriCal supplement.  I switched to Science Diet
KITTEN diet, the only cat food I could find with higher than 30% protein
(S-D kitten is 34%).  The hair grew back in a couple of weeks, and I haven't
had bald tail syndrome since.  It's not exactly a scientific study, as one
subject doesn't make an average, but I stick to S-C kitten diet for ferrets.
None of the ferret foods I saw had over 30%.  I'm not sure the "experts"
really know what ferrets should eat.  

One more thing...I continued with the NutriCal supplement after I switched
to S-D kitten diet because that's how I maintain control!  Gumby has learned
that answering to "treat time" means a drop of NutriCal, so she'll drop 
whatever she is doing (or wherever she is hiding) when she hears the magic
phrase.

-- 
                       Joyce Andrews King
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: looking for ringtailed lemurs
From: mertes@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:39:05 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University
Summary: help

		help!
I am looking for any information on obtaining a "RINGTAILED LEMUR" legally,
born in captivity, or hawks, and falcons.. If anyone has any info 
regarding this I would appreciate a post... I am a biology major at 
Sonoma State University, 

thanx


mertes@sonoma.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 01:05:53 CDT
From: T. Scott Pegues <PEGUES@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject:    Potty Training a Ferret

Perris is Tommy's new baby ferret.  We are having a lot of fun with her, but we
 don't know how to potty train her.  We do know that she likes corners, but not
always the ones we do.... poor carpet :(  Your help is much appreciated, please
respond quickly, patients is wearing thin.






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Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: kaszyn@helix.nih.gov (Eve Kaszynski)
Subject: Re: Goose Eggs
Organization: National Institutes of Health, DCRT, CSL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:54:31 GMT

In article <1300265@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM>,... writes:
> 
> 
> Does anyone know the gestation period for goose eggs?
> 
> I have 13 under the goose.
> 
> Wendy
> 
> 
>
It depends on the species of goose that you have.  My best guess is 
14-18 days.

-Eve
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: litter for hamster cages
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:45:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr02.230005.23549@sco.COM> mikeeb@sco.COM (Michael E. Bays) writes:
>
>
>does anyone have any reccomendations for what
>should be used as litter for hamster/rat cages.
>
>is the ceder or pine bad ??
>
I used to use chlorophyll litter, myself, with some Ammo Chips in the
toilet corner to control ammonia odor.  One of my 'sters used to
take the biggest cedar chips, which I gave to them in small quantities
as a fragrant 'topping' for the main contents of the litter tray, and
put the biggest around her bed, with slightly smaller ones placed in 
her toilet.  She seemed to like the thick, flat chips better than any
toy she played with (except me, of course. :-)  I don't think they hurt
her in any way, though I only gave them a slight sprinkling at each change
of litter.  I also used Odor Fresh Cage Spray (made by the company with
Snoopy on their logo, Geisler, I think).  I let it dry before the 'sters
went back, though.

E.S.
From: barb@sgi.com (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Bouvier
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:08:55 GMT
Reply-To: barb@lenny.esd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Apr15.190823.12312@acsu.buffalo.edu> v019nlpc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew L Paley) writes:
>
>	I would like to know if anyone out there in computer land has a Bouvier
>der Flounder (spelling may be wrong- let me know).  It is a beautiful dog.

	I *believe* it's Bouvier des Flandres...

>I would just like alot of info. about the dog itself (incl.
>info. on its success at Westminster= just for curiosity's sake).  If I do get 
>one it would hopefully be a purebred.  Prices????

	Just so happens, there is a Bouvier breeder in my town,
	I see them walking their wonderful dogs everyday. The
	name of their kennel, or whatever you call it, is
	Griffin Bouviers, they're located in Saratoga, Calif.,
	you could call information for the number (we're area
	code 408) or if you have no luck, let me know and I'll
	stop and ask them for a card or something next time I
	see them out. They are great looking dogs, aren't they?
	I lust for one everytime I see them.

	-Barb
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: jkw@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John K. Wheeler III)
Subject: Fuzzy
Reply-To: jkw@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (John K. Wheeler III)
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 08:55:40 GMT

I recently saved a ball python from my local Animal Control for
the low cost of $30. I was pretty happy about, since I was ready
to go up from numerous smaller snakes. Today I bought a closed-eye
fuzzy for the snake to eat. Naturally the snake decided it wasn't
hungry right now. Now I have a fuzzy and a snake. I don't want the
mouse to stare to death, nor do I
I like the idea of having to kill the little guy. At such a young
age what should I feed the mouse, or would I be better to put it
down now. The one arternative I can think of is to leave it in
with the python until it finally get's the idea. It is currently
being to refered to as "The Snake", because I refuse to call it
"Monty" like my ex-roommate suggested today. 
 
Thanks for any help.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Rabbit Chatter
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:02:40 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Apr10.145309.11921@mtholyoke.edu> kbourque@mtholyoke.edu (Karen Bourque) writes:

>Does anyone out there have a rabbit that makes strange noises?
>I thought these little creatures were supposed to be silent!
>I mean, mine doesn't bark when I walk in the door, but she
>does squeak quite a bit...

Ahhh. It does take an experienced and observant buns-lover with a
contended-bun to hear his/her rabbit talk! Yes, they do tell stories
to each other when they gather in the wild in their underground warren!

Here, in the domestic environment, my BigBunny once in a long while
utters something like "ummm ummm urrr" when he's busily inspecting a new
thing in his environment, like, when he's really really curious what's
going on.

I once set up a sleeping bag in the living room right beside the coffee
table where he usually spends his nights resting underneath. Finding my
sleeping bag infinitely fascinating, he inspected the whole thing round
and round many times, and this was when I heard him speak.

The other sound rabbits make is when they are under extreme distress.
That sound will be even more blood curdling than the cry of a distressed
human baby. Like Nancy LaRoche has so elegantly said not so long ago,
that is nature's way of blocking the inevitable pain the rabbit may feel
if he's indeed caught by the predator. But then, they first have to
catch the rabbit! As we know, this is indeed the last and best defence a
rabbit has.

     Michael MY Hui          myhui@bnr.ca           Ottawa Canada
From: wugcrc@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: help needed for class
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:59:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington University School of Medicine

In article <3072@cs.rit.edu>, kathy@cs.rit.edu (Kathleen L. Flagg) writes:
> I'm doing a class research project and I could desperately use your help 
> from all you pet lovers.  If you could answer the following questions, 
> (through e-mail so I won't get anyone mad) I would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Are you married or single?
Married

> What age group are you in?
dangerous kind (40s)

> What species of pets do you have and how many of them do you own?
My family has 3 guinea pigs and 4 gerbils, looking into getting a rabbit.

> What factors (price, quality) do you look for when buying your pet supplies?
Choose what we want (eg, pellets) and look for the best price.

> What do you like about your pet store?
Very comprehensive.

> What do you dislike about your pet store?
Crabby owners!

> What would you like to see pet stores carry more of?
We have no complaints

> Any general suggestions or comments about your pet store, buying supplies, 
No

> or your pets in general?
Guinea pigs have more personality than most presidential candidates, and they
make the same amounts of noise.
> 
> Once again I thank you all so very much for your time and answers.
> 
> Kathleen Flagg
> kathy@cs.rit.edu
> 
Dan Flasar
Washington U School of Medicine
St. Louis, MO USA