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Subject: Re: DragAsprite
From: jwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (TMOTA)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:48:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

mhardy@acorn.co.uk (Michael Hardy) writes:

>>*fx 162,28,3

>Well, I've posted before explaining that this is not a good way to do it,

Well, academically, it's not a good way to do it, but seing as how the
default value is 2 and you want to set bit 1 (thus needing a final value
of 3) this seems perfectly adequate. So long as you do the DragASpr fx
call before changing any config. that uses the rest of these bits, you aren't
doing any harm, and as this is a RISC OS 3.10 specific call, it seems
like a perfectly acceptable 'hack' to turn DragASpr on for the one time
in your life that it's necessary.

And what do these other bits do? More important than the 'proper' way to
set the bits, is to say "Here's a really convenient way to set the bits, but
note that they will corrupt your ??? configurations"

I mean, is there *anyone* out there whose byte has a value other than 2 or 3?

And why isn't there a toggle in !Configure to do it "properly" anyway?

Geez... it's like giving a guy a box of nails and no hammer, and then
wondering why he's using a rock to hit the nails with... ;-)
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From: cs89jmb@brunel.ac.uk (Aeon Flux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: FTP
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:56:51 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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JR Vaughan (vaughajr@cs.aston.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hello there everybody, I have a technixal query, and I wonder if any of you good fellows could furnish me with a solution/answer?
: 
: How in God's name do I use FTP from my SparcStation here at Aston?
: 
: If you need any further info on my set-up, then please contact me.
: P.S. I am also thinking of uploading some stuff to any prospective sites!!!
: 
:  Ta.

Get a copy of FTPTool and compile that (excellent piece of s/ware)

If you can't find it I might be able to mail it to ya'

ALTERNATIVELY you can mail me and I'll give a brief explanation of ftp.

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From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Re: ADFS maps
Organization: Aston University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:42:45 GMT

P.I.Berresford1@lut.ac.uk writes:
: 
: 
:      Yep.  I've also had the same problem on an A5000 under RO3.0,  but I was
: using spark 2.14 at the time. Spark crashed out with a 'Filecore space
: corrupt' error or something like that, as it was a few months ago.  I had no
: other option than reformatting my hard drive.  The problem seemed to occur
: whilst I was doing other filer operations, at the same time as Spark was 
: archiving. Since then I've left the filer alone whilst Spark is archiving.
: 
:      So maybe theres a bug in filecore, which means two or more applications
: can't use it's facilities at the same time. Not what I'd call multi-tasking.
: 

  Come to think of it, the multi-tasking formatter used to corrupt the format
undef RO3.0 when any other operation took place.
  I haven't had any problems with Sparc, After the problems, I used Sparc
instead of ArcFS and the problem didn't re-occur (which could have been 
luck of course).

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From: kjetilho@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Torgrim Homme)
Subject: Re: Sprite dragging/New Filer/Replacement ToolSprites
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:13:56 GMT
Originator: kjetilho@driva.ifi.uio.no

In article <1992Nov12.095100.18123@aston.ac.uk> davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
>  As this project would seem to involve altering the filer in a fairly major
>way, how about allowing directories to have sprites anyway (rather that having
>to use up one of your characters labelling it) I don't know whether this would 
>be anything like possible realy though.

If the file is a directory, see if there's a _<dirname> sprite or
sm_<dirname> sprite in the pool. No need for a special character, or
!Sprite files in each directory.


Kjetil T. (still hoping the Norwegian distributor will get RO 3.1 soon!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: /G=Owen/S=Smith/O=SJ-Research/ADMD=INTERSPAN/C=GB/@mhs-relay.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Bug alert : RO3.1 corrupts DOS files
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.102048.24186@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
thughes@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes) writes:

>I'm fairly sure that this is well known, as I read somewher recently
>(in Archive I think) that you should *always* dismount a DOS floppy
>before ejecting it, as not doing so means that the write behind buffer
>will not be flushed to disc, so the last sector or so written to disc
>will not actually have been written.

(Considering write-behind is disabled when accessing image files eg. DOS
floppies, the explanation given above is not technically accurate.)

You will find that this behaviour is documented in the RISC OS 3.1 release
notice, and thus it is well known about.

Owen.
From: kers@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Chris Dollin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: Windows and Pains :-) OK, Panes ...
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:02:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.


THis stuff about panes reminds me.

What is the *advantage* of defining a window to be a pane? I mean, when you
move the parent window, you have to move the pane *yourself* -- the WIMP
doesn't do it for you. What does making it a pane give you over making it an
ordinary window and tracking opens of its logical parent?

I read the WIMP section of the PRM several times, looking for an answer, some
time ago, but found one not. Can anyone enlighten me?
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From: torh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Tor Houghton)
Subject: Re: IFEL ARM3
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:06:05 GMT

CJE Micros also have prototypes of ARM3's with FPA sockets. They told me
that existing CJE users could upgrade their ARM3's to FPA bus ones once
the FPA was actually available.



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From: roozemaa@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Peter.Roozemaal.IS-assistent)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: RiscOSLib for ISO-Pascal
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:30:53 GMT
Organization: T W I, Delft University of Technology

I think another solution to get a pointer to a record is using the
pascal addr() "function".

The pseudo-function may be called differently but it gives the address of 
an variable. RTD :)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: grlw1@phx.cam.ac.uk (G.R.L. Walker)
Subject: Re: Modula 2/3
Reply-To: grlw1@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Lack thereof.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:18:17 GMT

|> crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones) writes:
|> : In article <1992Nov11.124610.22046@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, jna10@cl.cam.ac.uk (J.N. Abley) writes:
|> : > And while I'm here, has anyone ported a modula 2/3 compiler to the Arc?
|> : 
|> : I believe a standalone Modula-2 compiler for the Arc exists - it has certainly
|> : been mentioned since the days of Arthur, and the old APCS!
I heard, from a man who had been there at the time, that Acorn wrote a compiler for a subset (_very_ sub...)
of Modula2, which they used for, amongst other things, developing the pc emulator in its original form. Then
they threw it away, basically, having left tantalising hints about the possibility of its existence around
to tempt us all.  Ah well, maybe Gnu will implement it for us, and we can just port it across; maybe someone
wants to hack the SRC version so that it produces the intermediate code that gcc uses as its output, so it
can be chained into the last half of the gnu compilers? It'd be nice...
Rich!
 (disclaimer: almost everything above is a lie)
From: torbenm@diku.dk (Torben AEgidius Mogensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: Arm data sheets wanted.
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:24:55 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

J.Herbert1@lut.ac.uk (John O'Malley) writes:

>Arm can be contacted on Janet at:

>			uk.co.armltd

Note that if you are outside Great Britain, the address should be

			armltd.co.uk

You know, the Brits drive on the left and read their addresses from
the right ;-).

	Torben Mogensen (torbenm@diku.dk)
From: microsoc@oxford.ac.uk (Robin Watts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Problems with Wimp handling of menus and windows
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:10:07 GMT
Reply-To: m90rjw@uk.ac.ox.ecs
Distribution: comp
Organization: /u3/microsoc/users/rjw/.organization


At last! I can post to Usenet without having to ask other people to do it for
me!

I am having major hassles trying to do something very simple. In of one
of my programs, I have a menu option that pulls the back window to the
front of the screen. This works fine. I am also following the Acorn
convention that an Adjust menu selection should keep the menu up on screen.
This also works fine.

The problem comes when I adjust select the cycle option to pull the back
window forward. The window manager reopens my menu as it was, but puts the
window in front of it. It seems to do this no matter which order I create the
menu and move the window in.

Am I missing something very obvious here? Please can someone help?

Thanks,

Robin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk (Thinkpix)
Subject: PostScript Silly buggers & ST506 HDs
Reply-To: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:22:06 GMT

This is a message from a very slightly annoyed person, I'm using a 4mb A310 running
RISCOS 2 and Acorn DTP, my main prob is that the postscript files I export are doing
FA when they hit the LaserWriter here in the university, the support staff say helpfull
things like "different dialects in this language" and "non-standard systems" when I 
mention the word Acorn. The thing is files from my old A3000 (I'll kill the bugger who
nicked it!) used to work while I was doing my A-level projects.

The second hit is about a 5.25 inch Microscience HD I've been given, apparently it's
a 21 Mb ST506 MFM device, but I haven't a clue as to how I can connect it to my Archie,
is it worth the hassle? Can anybody suggest a method or make me an offer for it?

Multiple thanks in anticipation...

Thinkpix
From: ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk (Mark D Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: real time and IIC
Date: 8 Nov 92 12:50:27 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


In article <1992Nov5.192740.23514@cs.nott.ac.uk> Simon Burrows writes:

>In article <Bx8x68.3ID@dcs.ed.ac.uk> gst@dcs.ed.ac.uk (George Taylor) writes:
>>I would have thought that the newer machines might not suffer from this 
>>problem. An A3010 in Dixons suffered more severe symptoms though I didn't
>>have the operrtunity to look at it in detail.
>
>Why didn't you get the opportunity? Were you chucked out of the shop for 
>damaging one of their computers..? Doesn't sound a good idea.

This sounds a rather odd problem, why should the RTC only stop counting when
it is being powered from the battery rather than the mains? Obviously, there
is still battery power to the RTC, otherwise it would lose the time
completely (possibly be reset to Jan 1st 1990). Sounds to me like it is
something that has been purposely built in to the RTC chip for some reason,
and that there must be some way (using IIC_Control) of restoring normal
operation, possibly to keep a record of the total length of time a machine
has been in use? Obviously this 'function' is not intended to be used on the
Arc.

But why should the effect be 'more severe' on an A3010? (I assume the same
RTC hardware is used)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Re: Sprite dragging/New Filer/Replacement ToolSprites
Organization: Aston University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:54:43 GMT

veijalai@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tony Veijalainen) writes:

: Hint of week: if you want to make a filer window with only bottom corner
: showing and do not use a back drop program, then you can rid of it by
: adjust draging a file on background!
: 

  Sorry?, I don't understand...

: >   Space conversion would be nice, I agree but what would the filer do on
: 
: No, no, no !!! If you want space use alt-space. I'd very much like if
: names with alt-space would also be shown in double quotationmarks
: outside desktop (like in systemvariables etc)

  I think the point was that space and hardspace would be used as the same
character whenever the filer was accessed i.e. if you use ALT-space then fine
but if you use space then the filer converts it to an ALT-space before using it.
  On the other hand, I agree that this could get confusing it some situations,
(I think I said that in my posting).


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From: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk (ThinkPix)
Subject: Re: Help!
Reply-To: robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:06:26 GMT

In article 103753BCALIB@ESTEC.BITNET, BCALIB@ESTEC.BITNET () writes:
>I'm writing my first RISC OS application and have one or two problems, so any h
>elp gratefully received.
>1) How do you associate a menu with a select icon in a dbox  - as in the Impres
>sion Style Editor (where clicking on the arrow icon generates a menu)?
>2) How do you embed one dbox within another - again as in the Impression Style
>Editor dbox?
>
>Hope these questions aren't too ridiculous!
>                Thanks in anticipation
>
>
>
>
>                             Morris

Couldn't be easier really, when responding to wimp_poll button press (number 6 I think)
check that the icon was the menu icon (by comparing window handle and icon number) and
then call the menu display procedure.. simple! Once the user has clicked an option
you will get the option number back in Wimp_Poll 9. With desktop programs no question
is too ridiculous!




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From: MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk (Michael Williams)
Subject: Re: Sprite dragging/New Filer/Replacement ToolSprites
Reply-To: MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk (M.J. Williams)
Organization: The National Society for the Inversion of Cudddly Tigers
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:00:22 GMT

Being able to rename a file by editing the filename a la Macintosh would be
nice too, oh, and how about using a saveas dialogue to move files in the same
way as you can to copy? Finally, a "nice" feature would be if it could allow
spaces in filenames (on renaming, copying etc.) and convert them to hard spaces
in the software before telling FileSwitch what to do.

Mike.
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From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Personal wallpaper for directory windows??
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:22:09 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

I've just been watching the OS/2 2.0 demo given away free with the current
issue of Computer Shopper (not bad as demo's go.) The one thing that struck
me was that it appears that under OS/2 every directory window can have it's
own wall paper.  For instance, in the demo, a directory of files concerning
a trip to Hawaii had a picture of a beach as it's personal wallpaper.  

The question is ... can this be done under RiscOS without major rewrites of
the desktop code?


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From: CDLatham@cen.ex.ac.uk (C.D.Latham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: Sprite dragging/New Filer/Replacement ToolSprites
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:48:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

Discussion about choice of special character for directory spritenames
======================================================================

Any reason why we shouldn't simply use `/' or even `.'?  They would at
least indicate that the sprite has something to do with a directory.
One could use .dirsprite or /dirsprite for the big icon and use
..dirsprite or //dirsprite for the small icon.  That would solve the
12 character limit on small directory sprite names.

`.' is probably best as it can *never* appear in any RISC OS filename.
Non-nfs users need to bear in mind that `.' and `/' are transposed by
the nfs filer.
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From: torh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Tor Houghton)
Subject: My A4 gives me an annoying message
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:03:50 GMT

Whenever I boot up my A4, I get this boring/annoying message - "The
system was previously shut down because the battery was exhausted." Now
- this has never happened, so why in God's name does it appear all the
time?

Cheers!

Tor Houghton
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From: thughes@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes)
Subject: Re: IFEL ARM3
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:35:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.140653.8142@aston.ac.uk> braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (DL BRAIN) writes:
>Just out of interest where exactly is the FPA socket in an A5000
>when I opened mine up I didn't see any likely looking holes....

At the front on the left hand side, under the right edge of the floppy
drive. I spotted it when I fitted my RO3.1 ROMs, as I had to remove
the backplane and disk drives to get to the front end of the old chips
to remove them.

The ARM3 is to the right of centre at the front, and there is an empty
socket of the same size on the left hand side.

>mind you I wasn't looking that hard

Well, it's quite well hidden from the casual observer.

Tom.

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From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Re: Modula 2/3
Organization: Aston University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:45:39 GMT

crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones) writes:
: In article <1992Nov11.124610.22046@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, jna10@cl.cam.ac.uk (J.N. Abley) writes:
: > And while I'm here, has anyone ported a modula 2/3 compiler to the Arc?
: 
: I believe a standalone Modula-2 compiler for the Arc exists - it has certainly
: been mentioned since the days of Arthur, and the old APCS!

  So where can it be found? I think a lot of students would be interested in
this...

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From: gpalmer@cs.strath.ac.uk (Gary J Palmer IE91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: IDE Hard discs and / or RISCOS3.1
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:27:30 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: gpalmer@fleming-08


    Following the spate of questions in this group about compatability
problems between RISCOS3.1 and certain IDE interfaces and formaters,
I though just before I strip my machine down and install RISCOS3.1,
that I'd better check that nothing nasty will happen. I have a
RISC Developments 89Mb (unformatted, 85Mb formatted) IDE hard disc,
version no. (I forgot to look this morning, sorry, but it dates to
last christmas).

    Also, I have recently noticed that checkmap is returning a map
incosistent (sp?) error, and I don't know where the incosistency is.
Is there any way of finding out which file is under the incosistency,
and if there is, will deleting it and replacing it with a backup
cure the problem. I have accidentally deleted stuff from the disc before,
and used IDEFS_DiscOp to read the stuff into memory, and then writing
it to a fresh file, so can I do that (assuming that the file has not
already been overwritten).

    B.T.W. I have no way of taking a backup of the whole disc, re-
formatting it and then re-writing the data, as RISC Developments have
not seen fit to give us the formatters yet :-(

Yours hopefully

Gary J Palmer


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