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From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Suggestions on how to entertain yourself when on a binge
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:32:53 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)


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)I'm going on vacation to a condo in New Hampshire. 
)
)Me and 4 other guys plan to smoke the ENTIRE time...
)I'm thinking, during 5 days of smoking, ther will be time when we
)will just get plain bored!
) 
)
)So, what I'm wondering is, do any of you have any good suggestions
)as to how we can pass the time, other than just laughing at each other.
)
)All suggestions are encouraged
)
)Examples: 
)
)1]Good movies to rent
)2]smoking games we can play (Ex:bong yatzee)
)3]How to keep entertained for the 8 hour car ride	
)4]mind games and tricks?
)
)Basically, I'm asking:
)What do you like to do when you're high?

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From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Clinton: "I am adamantly opposed to legalization of drugs!"
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:32:37 GMT
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville

In article <1992Oct16.003834.4564@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:

> About the gun control think I started:
>
> OK, goddammit, I hate Democrats (the party I mean) and I hate Republicans
>even more (just because). They are both worthless parties and I refuse to
>vote for either one of them. Even though it looks like Marrou won't be
>elected, I will most likely vote for him because it's more within my
>principles. Then when either asshole is in office, I can say, "I didn't
>vote for the bastard!" and take whatever action necessary to keep my
>freedoms that the Constitution _doesn't_ and _can't_ guarantee. (Our
>Constitution is a mockery and has never been applied the way it should be.
>paper does not guarantee freedoms...)

     You certainly can't say he isn't passionate about his beliefs.

> Perhaps my earlier babblings were a tad askew. I've always been
>frustrated that the Libertarian party hssn't gotten its balance yet. I'll
>be glad when thewy finally catch hold of the voting public. Their being
>refused entry in the debates, in my opinion, was illegal, pure and simple.

     The organization running the debates is a private corporation.  As such
they can invite who they want, when they want, period.  The debates are *not*
a government function.  Much as I'd like to see Mr. Marrou up there with
the other candidates, they have every *legal* right to exclude and ignore
him.

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.elections
From: young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: are bowls legal?
Summary: fight the power
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: Young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu
Followup-To: alt.drugs, Item 20049
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <7OCT199209394714@acad3.alaska.edu>, jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (PARKER CHRIS S) writes:
> In article <6969@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, daw+@pitt.edu (Deborah A Wirth) writes...
> 
>>This makes me remember when I was a teenager and was repeatedly accused of doingsomething that I did not do, I went out and did it!
> 
> Same here. My 7th grade Social Studies teacher forced me into a conference with 
> a councelor... They wanted to talk about my inhalent habit, of which I didn't
> have. Apperently theysaw someone give me a binaca sprayer. :P
> 
> I decided it was a honest mistake (because thets what they told me). Then in 
> 9th grade my Health teacher wanted to chat with me about my habit of licking
> tattoos. *Chuckle* She found out about my habit because I was paging through
> the health textbook, and stopped at the page about cannabis (I was just
> thinking how much the picture of a hippie looked like my dad). After that I
> knew honest mistakes don't happen twice to the same person. Later I thanked my
> health teacher for turning me on to LSD, but she said I was copping ou. As far
> as I know, she still makes honest mistakes for a living.
> 
>>THE WAR ON DRUGS SUCKS!
> Amen to that!
>>FREE AMERICA... OR DRUG FREE AMERICA?
> Is it my choice or Big Brothers?
> 
> We must continue to fight the oppression of our national institution. Make
America know that marijuana  is safer and much healthier for them than alcolol
or the caffeine and nicotine that almost everyone introduces into their  body.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: st17e@elroy.uh.edu (Brzeski, Dariusz)
Subject: INSOMIA WANTED
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  insomia
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:13:00 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.elections
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: [Republicans] On Civil Liberties and Drugs
Keywords: New-Speak
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:22:07 EDT

In article <1992Oct13.003252.3952@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>
>>	You act as if these things weren't already going on, despite
>>	government attempts to curtail them.  One can only imagine how bad
>>	it would be if the practices mentioned were not currently 
>>	proscribed.  
>
>	This is the exact argument used by Drug Warriors:  Drug related
>problems are so bad now, if they were legal who knows how bad they would get?

This analogy only makes sense with respect to the problems caused directly
by the drugs, themselves--i.e., with possible health dangers, addiction,
etc.

It does not hold water with any of the associated problems that are a
result of the drug trade being an underground trade--and these are the
*overwhelming* majority of the problems constituting the "drug problem."

The argument for legalization, from a problem-reduction standpoint, is
two-fold: 1) Education and others means can be used to *convince* people
not to abuse (or perhaps even use) drugs, and 2) even if there were some
increase in the problems due to drug use, itself, that increase would
be negligible compared to the decrease in problems that would result from
removing the drug trade from the underground.

What's more, historical experience with, for example, alcohol prohibition,
supports these contentions.


Someone did try to suggest that anti-discrimination laws have similar
bad side-effects by inspiring more KKK-like activites--and that market
pressures could be used just as effectively as legal pressures to stem
discrimination.

I was, personally, profoundly unconvinced that the argument did not apply just
as well to market pressures as to legal pressures--since both presumably put
pressure on an unwilling individual.  What's more, past experience seems to
contradict the suggestion that bigotry-related crimes increase as anti-
discrimination laws are introduced.


So, while your analogy may appear reasonabe on the surface, I don't think
it holds much water when given a more meaningful examination.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gng7535@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: rosewood seeds
Reply-To: gng7535@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:41:16 GMT


In article <1992Oct12.173046.10193@nmsu.edu>, dpotosky@dewey.NMSU.Edu (David Potosky) writes:
>Hawaiian rosewood seeds ALWAYS make me get sick....
>How can you like them?
>I have a question where does one get rosewood seeds?  Also I would like to
know how much they run.  
  my e-mail address is the same as the the message address.
       thanks much
>--
>David P. Potosky
>Computer Science Dept.
>New Mexico State University
>dpotosky@NMSU.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mt@media.mit.edu (Michael Travers)
Subject: Re: kava kava
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:34:55 GMT

Kava extract is available from ...of the jungle and I've also seen it
in the herbal remedy sections of local natural foods stores.  Mixed
into fruit juice it doesn't taste too bad.  The effect is enjoyable
but pretty weak, perhaps weaker than other forms.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: Anarchists (was Re: WoD: Frontline Report -- 2-Oct-92)
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:15:55 GMT

In article <BvnGp3.6Cv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> damico@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (bill d'Amico) writes:
}In article <1992Oct5.031708.2553@genie.slhs.udel.edu> starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr) writes:
}>Paul, since most places require petitioners to be registered to vote, the
}
}Most places require petitioners to be registered to vote? Depending upon
}the content of the petition you don't even have to be registered to vote
}to _sign_ a petition in Indiana.

The rules are determined on a stat-by-state basis.  In Texas, anyone who
voted in the primary is ineligible to sign a petition to get a candidate on
the ballot.  In Virginia, petitioners have to live in the county they're
getting signatures from.

}I talked with Dennis for a while after the talk. We concluded that most of
}these "anarchists" are suffering from hormonal imbalances, and need to
}act out in order to attract sex partners.

Does it work?  Mayb I should give this a shot :-)!

}On the bright side, some of the anarchist activity in this town has been
}entertaining to say the least. There are a number of people making use
}of photocopiers and wheat paste, and some of them are good artists. One
}of my favorite wheat paste posters goes after Roman Catholic
}masturbators as the killers of billions of "mini-babies". Evidently this
}poster is not original to our locale, but to Berkeley, as evidenced by a
}small blurb on the poster giving a PO box address for "Sister Rescue".
}Are anarchists in other communities doing similar things? I'd like to
}note that wheat paste posters, while they are defacing property, they
}are also much easier to remove than spray painted grafitti. As far as
}anarchist action goes I must say I like it more than bomb throwing, and
}a clever poster can cause some people to think about the issue the
}poster addresses. 

Haven't seen any such posters here in Berkeley.  Here, most of the wheat-
paste posters are put up by people afflicted with the political malady
known as "Shining Pathology" saying things like "Free Chairman Gonzalo!"


Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives
From: Mitchell.Porter@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mitchell Porter)
Subject: Terence McKenna and Timewave Zero
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:12:02 GMT

Is McKenna on the net? Has anyone tried his "Timewave Zero" software?
Is it available on the net somewhere?
 
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From: amessing@WILLAMETTE.EDU (Adam Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Inner Center
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:12:58 GMT


In addition to 5-MeO-DMT does anyone know what other drugs Inner Center
has declared to be sacrements?  I understood that they also had cocaine and speed analogues.  Anyone?

please mail me as our news service is a little flaky...(if anyone knows why 
something about NFS between SunOS and Dynix you could send me some info on
that too...it seems our NFS drive that we spool news to is acting up)...at
any rate my address is

amessing@willamette.edu

thanks much....
From: burchell@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Jeff Burchell)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:21:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: scruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu
Keywords: anonymous


In <1992Oct6.094130.2233@u.washington.edu> ap.5288@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:


>Hi, I have a question about nitrous.

>A while ago, someone said you could use Micronox fuel from Radio Shack.
>I just happen to have a couple of cylinders... it says on the back
>"must not be used as an inhalant".  I was wondering if this is because
>it isn't pure nitrous, or is it just to cover their ass?  Also, how
>many balloons does one of these cartridges fill?  Thanks.

Ummm, to the best of my knowledge, the contents of a Micronox cartridge is
absolutely _NOT_ Nitrous, but Butane (or an isomer of butane)  which 
definately should not be used as an inhalant.  Period.  Go buy a Bic if thats
your thing, but there are much much better ways of getting off.

-JEff
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.atheism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: We'll all burn in hell!
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:17:18 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Oct13.125314.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>EVADING TAXES, taking bribes, speculating on prices, and wrecking
>the environment are grave sins and those who commit them are in danger
>of burning in hell, according to a new Roman Catholic  catechism.   It
>is  also sinful to read horoscopes, consult astrologers, and take part
>in seances.  It is "blasphemous" to wear amulets or talismen.
	Why are you posting this goofy nonsense to alt.drugs?  Do you
	really think anyone cares what the pope thinks about drugs or
	for that matter about anything at all?

		This is your pope.
		This is your pope speaking ex cathedra.
		Any questions?
		

						smg


	
	
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: st1o5@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: safrole-sassafras
Reply-To: st1o5@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:47:27 GMT

Saw some discussion a ways back on extracting safrole from sassafras.
My question is, what does this stuff do?  I've used sassafras on
occasion to make tea and once or twice ended up feeling kind of
giddy.  Is there something else to this stuff that I've been missing?
If so, lemme know, I have some in the freezer.

Dan
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dweezil@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dweezil)
Subject: Where has Ann Landers been for the past decade?
Organization: UMRK
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:35:15 GMT


DEAR ANN LANDERS: In my opinion, there is only one solution to the problems 
associated with smoking, and that is to make tobacco an illegal substance.  
The growing of tobacco must be banned, and concurrently, the manufacture of 
cigarettes and other tobacco-related products prohibited.

I am 71 years old and have done my share of smoking.  I started when I was 14 
and didn't quit until I was 44.  I am well aware that the manufacturers of 
tobacco products have a rich and powerful lobby.  But is it morally right to 
continue such an operation when the end results are so devastating?

I often wonder how the people who work in the tobacco industry deal with their 
consciences when they see what the product is doing to the health and welfare 
of millions of people.  We are all well aware that the sickness, death and 
property damage caused by smoking is appalling.

Please, Ann, ask your readers to support the banning of tobacco products.  As 
long as cigarettes are readily available, there will be smokers.  And new 
smokers are getting hooked at such an early age it's tragic.

	Harry in Newport News, Va.

DEAR HARRY: I share your sentiments about tobacco, but what you suggest would 
not succeed.  We had a similar experiment and it was a miserable failure.  It 
was called Prohibition.  Remember?

In my opinion, the way to go is education and a higher tax on cigarettes.

___

Hey, Ann!  Wake up and smell the fucking coffee!  There is another 'experiment' 
being conducted right now in the United States and the rest of the world, 
called the War on Drugs.  Remember?

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                        -- daveo@iplmail.orl.mmc.com --
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.politics.elections
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: [Republicans] On Civil Liberties and Drugs
Keywords: New-Speak
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:24:37 EDT

In article <Bw0y02.G4r@scd.hp.com> dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
>Remember that discriminatory attitudes are by far not universally held by
>all in society. Indeed, the most racially bigoted among the caucasian
>population are a rather small minority, with general support for equal
>treatment of various ethnic groups a majority opinion.

Well, bigoted views are uncommon, but "discriminatory attitudes" (otherwise
known as subtle or not-so-subtle bias) are *very* common.

>When discrimination is proscribed by law, it has two very negative effects
>that touch the vast majority of those individuals subject to the racism
>in question:
>
>	1. Racist based discrimination is encouraged to become as hidden
>	   as possible in order to avoid legal retribution. This makes
>	   is much more difficult to identify the racists, and take
>	   peaceful economic action against them.
>
>	2. The most extreme racists will often turn to violence as a
>	   result of their inability to exercise their discriminatory
>	   attitudes peacefully. Racist fanatics who would be satisfied
>	   excluding blacks from their restaurant, for example, blame
>	   blacks for the laws that prevent them from running their
>	   restaurant the way they want to, and end up forming groups
>	   like the KKK in their area, commiting violent acts against
>	   minorities out of frustration for being forced to serve those
>	   do not want to.

At best, your argument suggests that things would be no different
in the absence of anti-discrimination laws--since economic coercion is
presumably a very powerful force that would also cause bigotted business
men to go "underground" (as your argument goes).

But aren't you at all struck that your argument as to which situation
is worse does not correspond at all with history?  I mean, do you
think that illegal KKK activities (lynchings, etc.) were more or less
prevalent before or after the civil rights movement?

>[...]
>
>Nonetheless, no business will grow and prosper beyond a very limited point
>if they exercise discriminatory practices, as their market is limited. To
>achieve substantial success a business will have to be sensitive to the
>attitudes of a wide range of ethnic and cultural views and races. Indeed,
>this is what we see today.

I don't see any historical basis for this claim.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Ephedra/ma-huang
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:57:20 GMT

ap.5452@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:

>My excellent book: "Drugs and the Brain" by Solomon H Snyder (a fellow tripper)
>contains the following factoids about Ephedrine

[...]

An excellent book indeed. It was my textbook for a "Brain and Behavior"
course (SFU, Psyc 180, Beyerstein). Be warned, however, that it is a very
technical book, and very general too. Lots of diagrams of the chemical
structure of various drugs; also, the book doesn't only cover types of drugs
such as "Mood Modifiers" (all the quoted 'categories' of drugs are chapter
titles in the book) or "Opiates", but also areas like "Drugs for
Schizophrenia" or for "Easing Anxiety", which, interesting as they may be,
may not be of general interest. There are also sections on "The Brain and
Its Messengers" (or, 'How The Brain Works') 

A good book to read, but not one that you'd want to skim a few chapters of
before you go to sleep type of book.

How to find:

Snyder, Solomon H.
Drugs and the Brain (Scientific American Library; vol 18)

QV 77 S675d
RM315.S58
ISBN 0-7167-5015-5


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No, my opinions do *NOT* reflect those of SFU or of any of the above bodies.

"...really, which is better: to be anti-sex and pro-war, or to be pro-sex
 and anti-war?"

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ap.5793@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Weights
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.5793@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:40:59 GMT



Perhaps there's trouble at my end, but I never saw this show up:

Can someone please weigh 20 or 50 dimes, pennies, nickels? How accurate
would this be -- at least to the .1 gram? Are scales watched? Are they
mail-orderable?


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