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From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Subject: Re: Benchmark = OJ
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.220452.15916@asl.dl.nec.com>,
nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
|>
|>I think you are right.  I believe Jim Brown owns the record for most
yards per
|>game during a season, but it was during a 12-game season earlier in
his career.
|>Perhaps that is why everyone (including me) thinks he did it in 12 games.
|>
|>I wasn't around to watch Brown, but I remember OJ, and there has been none
|>like him in my time.  I remember one classic Simpson outing: he rushes for
|>275 yards including a long run where he made a 90 degree cut through the
|>line at full speed and was 5 yards behind the safties before they could
|>even turn around.  He scored 2 TDs, and Buffalo lost 28-14.
|>
|>David
                    
	Unfortunatlly this was how many of the Bills games were
doing O.J.'s heyday. I went to many home games the first 2-3 years
Rich stadium was opened. Nothing like sitting in a driving snowstorm,
in a half filled stadium, downing a little Jack, and watching the
juice run like a rabbit through opposing defenses. Of course the
bills defense could give up yards and points faster then O.J. could
get them.
	One minor correction, it was 1973 when O.J. ran for 2003,
exactly 10 years after Jim Brown ran for 1863.
	Do any old bills fans remember Dennis Shaw (rookie of the
year in 1972 and replaced by some guy named Ferguson) or the polish
connection (Walt Paltuski, and 2 other guys)?

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:30:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Updates
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:14:46 GMT

16th Week - FINALS

Kansas City	 21		NY Giants   35  * FINAL SATURDAY 
Tampa Bay  14			San Francisco  21  * FINAL SATURDAY 
LA Rams  13		 		Green Bay  28  * FINAL
Minnesota  6		 	Pittsburgh  3  * FINAL
Phoenix 13		 		Indianapolis  16   * FINAL
Washington	13	 		Philadelphia  17  * FINAL
Buffalo  20	 			New Orleans  16   * FINAL
Houston  17		 		Cleveland  14   * FINAL
New England  10 		Cincinnati 20   * FINAL
Seattle  6	 			Denver  10  * FINAL
San Diego  36			LA Raiders  14  * FINAL
Chicago  3	 			Detroit  16  * FINAL
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: I'm a Vikings fan..please shoot me!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:09:41 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <73j24h+@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>Yes, I see it coming... A last game showdown with the pack for the division
>title. Oh NO!!!!


>If it does come down to the vike-pack game for the division, the coach who
>wins the game will probably be the NFC coach of the year.
>
>To all you Pack fans, be proud of you team, their playing great & they might
>just pull it out!!
>
>
Go PACK!  LONG LIVE THE PACK!  LOOKS LIKE THE PACK MAY BE BACK!

BOOM!   Viking fan shot.
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 21:17:49 EST
From: Robert Newby <3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject:    Andre Ware is Baaaaaaad!!!!!

The Lions will be a new football team be cause Andre Ware & Company (Barry
Sanders & the Lions) are going to wreak havoc on the NFL.  This young man
is as awesome as his University of Houston statistics suggest.  I have not
been an Andre Ware fan.  I was in the stands in KC when Barry Word embarrassed
the Lions, Barry Sanders and Andre Ware included.  Over the past three seasons
I've watched Ware showboat, talk big ("play me or trade me") and throw passes
into the ground.  Personally, Rodney Peete has been my quarterback.  Today's
performance by Ware shatters all of that.  This was his first real chance and
he gave a glimpse of some awesome potential.  The combination of Ware, Barry

Sanders, Herman Moore and a host of other outstanding receivers will make the
Lions a team to contend with in the future (next year!!!).  That would be two
consecutive Heismanns (Sanders & Ware) and a runner-up (Peete).  Finally, I
think it will be a new day.  (Barring injuries of course.  This year teaches
that lesson well.)
Robert Newby                        Internet: 3zasib3@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
Central Michigan University                         Bitnet: 3zasib3@cmuvm
Department of Sociology                           AT&Tnet: (517) 774-3410
Mt. Pleasant, MI  48859
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:50:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Where will Montana Go?(was Re: (Vikes) The words SPARK...)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 02:33:45 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Dec14.021023.18759@uc.msc.edu> bob@msc.edu (Robert Hanson) writes:
|
|...  The SPARK the Vikings need is a new QB.

Well, it would seem now that Minnesota is good place for Joe. Clearly,
the Vikings have a good defense, better than other x-49er staff teams
like Green Bay. And the Raiders stink, another place where x-49er's
go. I can see Montana and Craig doing well in Minnesota.
-- 
"There is nothing in the marginal conditions that     
    distinguish a mountain from a mole hill"            
                      Kenneth Boulding                             

					All comments  are mine---(David Wright) 
						david@cats.ucsc.edu.
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Lott/49ers
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:10:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.170502.6336@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

>The only thing I have heard is that the 49ers would be willing to take
>him back, and are prepared to offer him some kind of coaching job after
>he retires. None of this is firm, however. I think everyone involved is
>smart enough not to talk about it too much until the season is over (which
>will be very soon for the Raiders, but hopefully not for the 49ers!).

They'd better be ready to move him into coaching sometime around next
October.  Ronnie's spirit is still there, but from the glimpses of
the Raiders I've seen this season, age and mileage appear to have 
caught up with the man.  It's also much easier to believe the Niners
misjudged his durability by only one season than by three seasons.
-- 
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From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu (Robbie Po)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A Saints Fan's view on the playoffs.
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:01:07 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Remember the year the 49ers and Rams kicked ass, but the Rams only got a
wild card out of it?  Well, the same thing is happening this year except
it's 49ers/Saints.  I wouldn't be surprised of a 49ers/Saints championship.
This would be another good game.  Of course, look out for the Pack, Skins,
and don't count the Cowboys out.
-Rob
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From: burger@sphinx.ece.wisc.edu (Dick Burger)
Subject: O.J. - Jack Kemp
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison; Electrical & Computer Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:22:42 CST

 I was just wondering, did Jack Kemp play quarterback with O.J.?
Or was Jack Kemp a bit earlier, I'm sure you bills fans know this one.
just curious .....
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Retirement in Chicago (was: Rebellion in Chicago)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.220355.2172@i88.isc.com> oconnor@i88.isc.com (Tom O'Connor(Genesis Project)) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>BTW, earlier this week ex-Bear Dan Hampton was asked about Stan Thomas,
>and Hampton made a remark like "Stan Thomas couldn't replace a spark plug!".
That's just a little SWC humor.  Manimal was
merely relating an incident in which Thomas
had to resort to a wrench to get one of the
darned things out of the engine.  We pros
just twist 'em out with our beefy hands.

Seriously, "was asked" by whom?  Does Hampton
live in the Chicago area?  How does he keep
busy?
			.
			.
			.
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From: whg@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dominant Teams of the Nineties
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:56:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <102355@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>
>Here's who I see dominating over the next decade:
>
>Cowboys- they're young and talented.  Very little holes to fill.
>Steelers- they need some help at WR, maybe another pass rusher but otherwise
>	  should be strong for a while.
>San Fran- so what else is new?
>Minnesota- some help on the O line, a decent QB and they're set.
>Packers- another WR to compliment Sharpe, some help with the O line.
>
>This doesn't include major overhauls resulting from coaching changes (like
>with the case of the Vikings this year).
>
>Anyone like to add to this?
>
>satish nair

Dallas - Definitely THE team of the 90's
SF - Probably will hang around.  Watch out for an aging Steve Young...
Steelers - I just don't see it.  They don't have all the personnel
		they need.  We need time to see if this is for real.
		I doubt it.
Minnesota - I love their defense.  They will be tough.  But dominate?
Packers - Great QB, lousy recent history which could make dealing with
		suddenly huge expectations tough.  Good coach.  Maybe
		dominant.

All good teams this year, but the last 3 are just this year's "hot 
teams".  We need to wait.
What about...

The Chargers.  I don't know much about them, but they have had a solid
defense for a few years, and they seem to be improving.  Weak schedule
makes for an illusion of strength.

The Redskins.  They have been "too old" in key positions for 5 years.
As long as Gibbs is there, chalk them up for 10-12 wins and the
playoffs.

My picks.  This will really annoy all you fans of new and improving
teams, but I say:
Dallas (big time) - Washington - San Francisco.

-Will
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Pack vs. San Fran/ Dallas
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:32:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpspdla.29710116
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

>(Satish Nair) /  2:47 pm  Dec 17, 1992 /

>okay... in the early 70s, the Steelers had a defense which
>dominated the game and the offense was based mostly around the great
>running of Franco Harris.  Bradshaw was a good QB who had a great set
>of WRs (Swann and Stallworth) but hadn't fully "matured" into one of
>the greats.

>if someone had described the above in reference to a team in the 90s,
>I'd say that they were talking about... the Cowboys!  Great defense,
>a great runner, good WRs in Irvin/Harper/Martin and a good QB who will
>mature into a Hall of Famer.

>What do you think?

'70s Steelers: 4 NFL championships

'80s Niners:   4 NFL championships

'90s Cowboys:  have not even been to a conference championship game
*yet*

Get real.

- Gary Rosen
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Play of the Day (Redskins/Cowboys)
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:18:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



As an unbiased GIANTS fan here's how I saw it:  Aikman tried to pump the
ball which ACTUALLY left his hand, bounced off a helmet and landed in the
end zone.  Emmitt tried to toss it out of the end zone to prevent the safety
but it was recovered by Coleman.

This really shouldn't be a point of major concern.

Asked later if he thought that the refs blew the call, Troy replied he didn't
think so and that they self destructed.  They had a chance to go for the
jugular but let up and it cost them.

Personally, I couldn't care who won, I hate them both (BITTER??? I'M NOT
BITTER!!! WE'LL BE BACK AND WE'LL CRUSH YOU LIKE THE PUNY INSECTS YOU ARE
... fading evil sardonic laughter)

satish nair
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: great teams do NOT always win in december
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:21:14 GMT

In article <6748@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>>The Great Teams win in December.
>>
>>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
>
>Eagles 24, Redskins 22.   December 22, 1991.
>
>and remember, john, by your own words, *only* the score counts.
>so don't try any of that "they had already won their division" song-and-dance.
>either way you cut it, you are _wrong_.
>
>ok
>dpm
>-- 
>murphy@npri6.npri.com 602 Cameron St. Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 683-9090
>
>              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
>                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"

OKAY ALREADY!  The score part STILL STANDS! Zip-a-da-do-da, Zip-a-do-day,
my-old-my, what a wonderful day....tap, tap, tap, pivot, slide...
tap, tap, tap! :-) I AM NEVER WRONG! I AM PERFECT! I am the model by
which all REAL MEN are cast from. :-)

-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey)
Subject: Re: Packers win at Houston
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:42:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.160557.3663@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.135827.457@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes...
>
>>Is it just me or did Terrel Buckley actually make tackles.  He even forced a 
>>fumble.  Maybe not returning punts has something to do with that.  Sure did 
>>feel nice not having him returning punts.
>
>I think it was Carl Carter, who replaced LeRoy Butler at SS, who got the 
>forced fumble.  The newspaper credits him with the FF and there's a 
>picture of the play.  Buckley is no where to be seen.  He may have 
>recovered it though.
>

Buckley had the receiver in his grasp on the play.  Carter then came in 
and knocked the ball free, so Buckley was involved in the play, but did
not force the fumble.

-Todd

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:30:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Andre Ware is Baaaaaaad!!!!!
Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:25:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Have you ever watched Detroit this year?  The run and shoot is gone.
They even have TIGHT-ENDS, something unheard of in the R&S. Barry
has had eight 100yd games this year, and has broken 1000 for the
fourth year of his four year career.  Even on an off year he's
awesome.  The R&S has it's merits, and would be spectacular if a
team could switch in and out whenever it wanted to - have the personel
for the shot yardage situations or whatever but could go to four
wide to confuse the defense.  And it does reduce the body mass on
the line by about 20%, making it EASIER for a back to muscle through.
That kind of thing can work either way.
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