HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sabaker@icaen.uiowa.edu (Sarah Anne Baker)
Subject: Re: Individual Directory Permissions
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:34:35 GMT

jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.085942.7047@cc.umontreal.ca> guimona@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Guimond Alexandre) writes:
>   I think you should use the chacl command.

>On two of my *NIX systems:
>% which chacl
>no chacl in .....
>% man chacl
>No manual entry for chacl.

>Sounds like a good idea, though.  What brand of UNIX are you using?

chacl is available on the Apollo Domain OS / BSD Unix implementation.
permissions on Domain allow for 
Person, Group, Organization, The World, and "extended".
Extended means you can give permissions to a particular person,group,or org
to a particular entity (ie directory).
I'm fond of the permissions on Domain, but as far as I know it is 
not available on other *NIX systems.

Sarah Baker
User Services Manager
Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network
University of Iowa
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Can't delete my own posts?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:51:00 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu's message of 29 Dec 1992 04:39:51 GMT

In article <1hokqoINN4iv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato) writes:
   so how come i keep getting e-mail responses to these so called
   "cancelled" articles up to a week later? what am i missing here.
   anyone have any ideas?

1) Some news systems are broken.
2) Some news systems are configured to ignore cancels.
3) Some news paths are slow (up to one or two weeks from your
	system to some systems).
4) A reader saves your post (before the cancel arrives) to
	reply later.

There are probably other reasons as well, but this gives you
an idea.
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From: nicolas@stam.nl (Nico Veenkamp)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: IS EASTERN EUROPE CONNECTED?
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:39:29 GMT
Organization: Stam Tijdschriften bv, Rijswijk, The Netherlands

sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol) writes:

> Paul Wakenight (pw@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu) wrote:
>   
> : How can I get a list of those institutions (schools, etc.) in Eastern Europ
> : which are connected to Internet?
> : The purpose of this is to establish research communication with this area.
> : Any help from this group would be appreciated.
> 
> Our local Unix user group just had a speaker talk about Unix in the Soviet
> Union. He said that while Russia has a large UUCP network, there is really
> no one connected directly to the Internet. Everything is apparently
> gatewayed through Finland, although there are one or two Internet sites
> going up (can't remember where).
> 
I don't know exactly the routing but I send on a regukar basis e-mail to 
friend of mine at moscow university. So at least they are in some way 
connected to the Internet.
I just checked the path of one of his messages to me.
I include that here. This might help you in your
quest. 
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From: rodrigc@ecf.toronto.edu (RODRIGUES CRAIG J)
Subject: How do I set the RNINIT variable in rn?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:07:52 GMT

I am using the rn newsreader.
How do I set the default RNINIT variable so that whenever I use rn,
it will use the -q flag and NOT check for new newsgroups.  The man
page is very vague on how to do this.  I would like to set the RNINIT variable
in a default file, like my .login file.


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From: krol@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Krol)
Subject: Re: Is a Freenet account an Internet account?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 11:00:13 GMT

Freenet accounts are limited Internet accounts.  On most
freenets you can telnet, transfer files, and email.  Depending
on the freenet some usenet groups will be provided.  What you
can't do is anything which requires any special software.
Xref: sparky news.newusers.questions:5550 news.admin.misc:872
From: rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Slowdown
Date: 21 Dec 1992 21:52:14 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

>In article <1992Dec21.161047.10939@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gtapolow@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Tapolow) wr
ites:
>My site has noticed a sever drop in incoming news. It seems to be the
>belief at our site that the cause is from outside the site.

 Well, it _is_ the Christmas break in most places (schools).

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From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Re: What is in the references field?
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:17:20 GMT

samer@bass.bu.edu (Samer Faraj) writes:

)I am doing research on group interaction on the net and need help
)understanding some of the header data provided in each message.

The header has to obey RFC 1036 - ftp.uu.net: /inet/rfc/rfc1036.txt
and present in several other locations.

)It seems that if I am responding to a previous post, the previous
)post's unique identifier gets appended to the REFERENCES field.  Is
)this always the case? 

Yes, that is right.

)How many characters can the REFERENCES line include?   

If the RFC doesn't define this, I assume that it is infinite.:-)

)In many cases, subthreads are generated by people changing
)the SUBJECT field, does this impact the "referencing" action?

This is newsreader-dependent. trn notices the subject change but
does have it as part of the thread that the References header points
to.

)Finally,  many discussions or wars in a group entail the exchange of
)30 or 40 messages.  However, the reference field only includes 6
)identifiers at most.  How come?

Usually the last part (or identifier as you indicate) is enough to
determine which thread a particular posting belongs to but the
availability of additional identifiers is advantageous when the
previous posting hasn't yet arrived at a site or is cancelled etc. But
that is entirely newsreader-dependent.

Try following the way trn and GNUS thread. That should explain
everything about the functions of Message-ID and References headers.
Experiment on a local test newsgroup with either of the newsreaders.

Sridhar.
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Harrassment
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:05:43 PST

alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes in

>try root@offensivedomain
>or system@offensivedomain
>
>A.Lizard
>and as to how to inform them, forwarding a cc of the offensive
>message(s) is a good start
>
Gee Mr. Lizard, are you still e-bombing people on Compuserve?  I still
have some pretty inflamatory stuff you sent me.


1  My opinions are mine alone.  They may or    Address all flames to:
2  may not be shared by my employer or the    ccolvin@lmsc.lockheed.com
3  owner of this system.                           Chris Colvin
4  My .sig is only 4 lines long  ;-)                 ><IXOYE>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Subject: Re: How to read "marked as read" articles ?
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:28:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.220551.8944@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mparanan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Muralidhar Paranandi) writes:
>Hi:
>
>Is there a way to read articles that are marked as read?  I am not talking
>about "old" articles... but those one might have marked as read by mistake. 

The way recently suggested to me was to type "1" at any prompt within the 
group which supposedly takes you back to article 1 of that group.  Of course,
this will long since have vanished in most cases, but you *will* be left
positioned at the first available article of the group.  At this point you
have to search for a string to find an article in order to find its number:

/search.string/rah

where r=search articles already read
      a=search all of the article
      h=search the headers

(You could just use "a" or "h" if you wanted to be more specific, or quick.)

If you just want to find the number of the first available article, then
use a search string that is omnipresent, e.g. /e/rah

Then you can "step" through the remaining articles by entering the article
numbers (101, 102, 103, ... etc., assuming the first one you found was 100).

(The above applies to the rn news reader, don't know about others.)

Cheers,  Ian S.

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From: rdm@contrast.wlink.nl (Richard de Mos)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: FIDNET & IBMNET via INTERNET?
Date: 25 Dec 92 15:31:00 GMT

Hello akennedy!

23 Dec 92 00:49, akennedy wrote to All:

 a> I'm very new to usenet, and access it using a ibm PC and a modem
 a> which connect me to a Unix computer. I'm using the trn reader on it
 a> to read the news.

I do the more or less the same. I am point at a BBS wich has link with FIDO
and does usenet/internet on the side. I post my articles in fidoformat there
then Waffle and some other tools put it to UUCP format and it is distributed
to usnet.

 a> Is it possible to use my internet connection to access echos from
 a> FIDONET and IBMNET?

I don't think so. You'll have to find a BBS that has the inter/usenet link.


   Kind regards,
        Richard
            e-mail   rdm@contrast.wlink.nl
            Fido    2:281/527.21
            Yan-net   123:3183/101.3
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: options for net connection
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:05:19 GMT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

chrisi@lloyd.Camex.COM (Chris Ischay) writes:

> I'm not sure if this is the best or only place to ask this question.
> So my first question is where else ought I to post this question?
> 
> The real question is:  What options are there for connecting to
> the net from home to some service?  I now just dial in to the
> system where I work, but I'd like to know what other resources exist
> so I can look into them and their costs especially.

There is an FAQ on this that is regularly posted with listings for
major commercial vendors for Internet/Usenet services, I think it's
posted here, on news.announce.newusers, places like that.

Your main options are:
1. get it through work or school
2. find a local BBS with an Internet connect, which generally means
mail/news only, no telnet or FTP
3. buy from a commercial vendor like netcom or uunet... though there
are lots of others with varying service levels and prices.
A.Lizard

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From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Reaching Duke U. from freenet?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 03:14:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


My question is this: I have a Freenet account, and want to reach someone
at Duke Univ. I looked their address on nic.ddn, but was only given
duke.edu as the name of the servf the person I'm trying to reach
has an account, so I want to to do a WHOIS type command there, but
when I try to do simply duke.edu, it does not recognize it. Anyone have
any help?
PS I tried the gopher phone books section, but to no avail....
Bill
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: tony_wosnjuk@novell.com
Subject: DATA GENERAL group.
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:58:32 GMT



Is there a site for DATA GENERAL?

I can't find comp.sys.dg or comp.sys.datagen or anything to that matter.

Can somebody tell me if there is a group for DG? 

I'm looking for a News reader version for DG avion. Thanks.

Thanks.

E-mail if you don't mind.
From: Chelsea.Carlstedt@f3.n8012.z86.cheswicks.toadnet.org (Chelsea Carlstedt)
Sender: fredmail@cheswicks.toadnet.org
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Binaries
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:41:00

How do I convert messages that are really files to files on a DOS machine?

Thanks!

Chels -=-


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: kogoma@vesta.unm.edu (Taki Kogoma)
Subject: Re: Questions about rn and access to newsgroups (Re: Reasons for Anonymous posts)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 23:56:26 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Dec17.173208.2936@imagen.com> xyzzy@imagen.com (David McIntyre) writes:
>I believe he is asking the same question I have been trying to figure out 
>for a week or so, myself.  How does one start up a new topic of discussion?
>F will follow-up, but how did the person who posed the original question 
>enter it?

Assuming you're using rn or something similar, one can 'f' and then
edit the subject line, remove the references, etc.

You can also go to the 'end of newsgroup' prompt and 'f' from there.
The resulting header is more or less blank.

One can also use the 'Pnews' program to post from your shell of
choice - if it is installed on your system, of course. ;-)

trn's "f" command (that's for followup w/o quoting) queries whether or
not a new subject is being started.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: spp@surf.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: email limits
Organization: The Department of Probable Possible Impossibilities
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 07:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.035759.20217@u.washington.edu> dupin@carson.u.washington.edu (dupin) writes:
>
>
>Hello, I was just curious what is the limit of the size of email
>one can send?
100k is the limit at most major nodes.  Anything else gets bounced back to the
sender as being too large.

>specifically, would it be technically ok if I send somebody
>an email with a file that is about 1.5 megs attached to it?
It would be technically ok, but physically impossible.

Steve
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: darkshot@rock.concert.net (Michael B Garrett -- Chudys)
Subject: Re: ftp downloading
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:14:10 GMT

Zack- ask your system administrator if the sx/rx and sz/rz utilities
are available on the host. If so, any DOS/MAC comm program will support
one or the other of them. Find out if the host can send, first- then 
email me for details if you need 'em.

'Shot
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Harrassment
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 00:43:08 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

> alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes in
> Message-ID: <1kH7VB1w164w@tweekco.uucp>
> 
> >try root@offensivedomain
> >or system@offensivedomain
> >
> >A.Lizard
> >and as to how to inform them, forwarding a cc of the offensive
> >message(s) is a good start
> >
> Gee Mr. Lizard, are you still e-bombing people on Compuserve?  I still
> have some pretty inflamatory stuff you sent me.
> 
> 
> 1  My opinions are mine alone.  They may or    Address all flames to:
> 2  may not be shared by my employer or the    ccolvin@lmsc.lockheed.com
> 3  owner of this system.                           Chris Colvin
> 4  My .sig is only 4 lines long  ;-)                 ><IXOYE>

Thank you for posting. I forgot to say that not all systems care
if their users post offensive garbage to Usenet newsgroups
through misuse of mail to news gateways or by sending E-mail.
Compuserve is a classic example of this, which is why I neither
use nor recommend Compuserve, I feel an on-line service that
supports and defends the rights of its users to pollute the net
by posting what is effectively junkmail doesn't deserve support.
Chris has never felt that the traditional "Say something stupid
and off- topic to a Usenet newsgroup and get flamed in posts and
in E-mail" applies to him. If you can't make the Chris Colvins of
the user community go away through requests to root or system or
postmaster, use kill files. Unless you can catch his type at
something actionable. Then... have fun.
A.Lizard

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From: mayers@python.syr.EDU (Michael  Ayers)
Subject: Re: tar.Z fiels
In-reply-to: johannes.beekhuizen@contrast.wlink.nl's message of Sun, 20 Dec 1992 12:25:28
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 12:07:52 EST

In article <724864581.AA00838@contrast.wlink.nl> johannes.beekhuizen@contrast.wlink.nl (Johannes Beekhuizen) writes:

>I don't know if tar and compress exist on the Vax/VMS. They would not be
>standard packages, certainly. Ask your system administrator if he happens to
>have installed them.

	Oh, they're common enough - lots of VAXen on the net, much as we may
 forget about them.  I suggest finding them through one of the VAX/VMS
 newsgroups.  Should be a FAQ there.



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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
Subject: Re: HOW TO READ OLD ARTICLES ?
Organization: Intellection, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:09:13 GMT

In article <2554@cix.cict.fr> etche@reseau.onecert.fr (Groupe SUPAERO) writes:

     I would like to read old articles of a group.
     I tried successfully to modify the .newsrc for
     quite recent articles.
     I can't recover for example the 100th article
     before the present ones.

Like the printed newspaper, news is only kept around at your site for
a few days, sometimes weeks.  Old news is deleted.  Most likely the
old articles you want to read are already gone.  Some helpful sites
keep FTP archives of a limited set of groups, notably source groups.
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From: Dave.Karpinski@p4316.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Karpinski)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: HUNT results? HELP!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:15:00 -0500

 > Recently I saw an article (I think in one of the
 > newsgroups that contain
 > the word "Internet" in them (e.g. alt.internet, etc)
 > about the HUNT. It
 > was a game in which questions were asked in order to
 > test the
 > participants' skills in retrieving info from the net?
 > I would
 > like to know the answers to this year's HUNT.  I have

It just happens that I was reading the results this morning
in alt.bbs.internet - From: Rick Gates; To: All; Re: Pt x/2:
December Hunt Results; Dated: 16 Dec.  The message was in
2 parts (i.e., 1/2 and 2/2).  I'll try to forward a copy of
each to you via email.