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From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: LIVE ABOARD RECOMMENDATIONS WANTED
Keywords: Live aboards
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:56:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: diver.asd.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan12.205330.12230@netcom.com> jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden) writes:
>
>Just back from Kona - and the new Kona Aggressor II. This boat is a 90 foot
>cat with a 35 foot beam. 5 double staterooms (10 divers max). Each room
>has it's own head/shower and window! (this is not a "converted" boat. It
>was built from the keel up for diving).

I'm impressed.  When I was there at Christmas, Tom Shockley of Dive Makai
was telling me that the boat was trapped in Oregon because of the winter
storms and they had a January 4th charter.  You must have been on that 
charter and they must have made it :-)
>
>The new addition is The Shark Cage (sounds of Jaws music in the back-
>ground :-). Two uses. Anchoring at the outer buoy and chumming for
>tigers and pelagic white tips and night time drift diving in the 
>open ocean (ala Howard Hall).

Oh man, that sounds *so* cool.  Did you do/see any of the above?  On the 
other hand, since Hawaiians are out killing tiger sharks as fast as they
can find them, it's a wonder you would have seen any :-(

Regards, Lee
From: lagache@violet.berkeley.edu (Edouard Lagache)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Local diving near Orlando, FL ??
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:28:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Originator: lagache@violet.berkeley.edu


Hello fellow-scubaists,

	I'm going to the DEMA conference in Orlando Florida this
	year (1/20-24), and I have one day that I could spend diving in
	the area.  That isn't enough time to get to the Keys or South
	Florida, but I was still hoping to make a dive or two within
	diving distance of Orlando.  As I see it, I could go to either
	Tampa Bay area, or the Atlantic coast around Cape Canaveral. 
	Could some divers who are local and/or knowledgable to that area
	give me few tips on . . . 

	- Suggested dive spot around either Tampa Bay or the Cape
	- Opinions on which would be a better bet?
	- Dive shops to use in either Orlando or at the ocean.
	- Weather conditions I can expect.
	- Tips for a hardy pacific coast type diver.

	Please reply to me directly and I'll post a summary if
	requested.  THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP!!

	Edouard Lagache, lagache@violet.berkeley.edu
	Recreational Scuba Diving Socio-Cultural Research Project
	SESAME Group, University of California, Berkeley, CA, 94720

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jammer@eskimo.com (Lyle Harwood)
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:02:29 GMT

Greg Dawe (gd@gehenna.sw.stratus.com) wrote:
: In article <1458600007@igc.apc.org> Jordan Weinstein
<jweinstein@igc.apc.org> writes:
: >
: Jordan, you raise an interesting point.  I'm not familiar with the
charter
: of rec.scuba, but IMHO, it's a forum for the exchange of information,
ideas,
: etc.  Finding a dive buddy is best done by contacting any one of
several
: Boston-area dive clubs: Salem Frogmen, Metrowest Dive Club, South
Shore
: Neptunes, etc.  If your posting becomes the rule, rather than the
exception
: I could envision getting 40 or 50 postings a day, most of which would
not
: be of interest to me, or most subscribers.  Good luck.
: 
: FYI: The Metrowest Dive club meets every 2cnd and 4th Tuesday of the
month
:      at the Natick Inn, on Speen Street, Natick.
: -- 

Looks to me like he doesn't need to spend the money to join a club.
Neither do I. We have this group.
Seems to me the criteria one sets for one's choice in a dive buddy is
soley up to the person. Period. I know that before I put MY life at 
risk by choosing you, I'm going to know a lot about you.

I do thank that fool for his flame, my kill file was lost in a crash,
and now I can begin rebuilding it.

Well done, whoever the original poster was!
And, as the gentleman above pointed ou this group could get 40 or 50
postings a day!

My god, what a tragedy.

We certainly cannot allow this.

Why, people might MEET!

They might DIVE TOGETHER!

They might even BECOME FRIENDS, LOVERS, or OTHER ASSORTED TRASH!

They might even become EXPERIANCED DIVERS, and contribute to this group!

I certainly see your point, *I* certainly wouldn't want this to become
a group that talked about anything but BCDs or dive computers.

Besides, I'm a neophyte at unix, and don't know how to judge whether or
not I want to read an article based on it's title.
And, like I said, I lost my kill file, and am defencless without it.

This would be almost as bad as talking about shark hunts!

Well, I have to go. I leave it to the more experianced to deal with
this terrible intrusion beneath our collective virtual surface.

Jammer
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden)
Subject: Re: Jacques Cousteau's dive gear??
Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:05:23 GMT

In article <uq45fh0@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:
>In article <2791@grivel.une.edu.au> rbennet1@neumann.une.edu.au (Robert Bennetts.) writes:
>
>The tanks are indeed smaller multiple tanks.  My understanding is that
>they are 3 30cf aluminum cylinders.  The silver and the box are purely
>for show.  The double-hose regulator is also for show, mostly a
>holdover from the "good old days."
>
He also holds a patent on the double hose (which is one of the reasons
they ain't around no more). You'll see them coming back with rebreathers.


-- 

 John Robert Breeden, Hughes Lan Systems
          jbreeden@kailua.hls.com, johnb@hls.com, jbreeden@netcom.com

 ------------------- cut here and you'll break your monitor -------------------

      "The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose 
      from. If you don't like any of them, you just wait for next year's 
      model."
From: rj_sande@chilli.uwe.ac.uk (Rob Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Personal Safety Equipment
Keywords: Flare Strobe Flag Safety
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:10:47 GMT
Reply-To: rj_sande@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The University of the West of England, Bristol (The Magic Roundabout)

Whilst on a dive in Indonesia, with a 'lax-safety-standards' outfit, I was
in a situation where us three surfaced divers were drifting away from a moored
cover boat. The guide had towed a buoy, but the cox was not watching. I spent 
a worrying five minutes trying to attract the boats attention from a 1/4 of 
a mile away. If they had not seen us, next stop Papua New Guinea !

This made me think seriously about carrying some *Attention Grabbing*
equipment with me. I already carry a strobe & powerful torch but want to 
know about personal flare launchers. Obviously these will have to be watertight
to at least 50 meters.

I looked at one model, a pen type affair with a selection of flare cartridges.
These were carried in a plastic O'ringed tube. I was put off by the fact that
when you opened the tube, the flare cartridges were loose and could fall out.

Does anyone know of a flare system which is easy to use & watertight ? I have
heard rumours of a combined red pinpoint / orange smoke system. Anyone know
of suppliers ?

Does anyone else already have experience of the effectiveness of Flares / 
Personal Flags / Strobes etc ?


______ Rob Sanders
       rj_sande@csd.uwe.ac.uk
       University of WOE. YUK !
       Bristol, England.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: peterson@hpl.hp.com (Chris Peterson)
Subject: Re: Shots needed for Hondouras?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:40:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, California

The operators of the Cocoview Resort on Roatan, another of the Bay Islands,
claims that none of their guests have ever gotten sick, and as such, do not
recommend shots.

...Of course, Guanaja may be different...


-- 
Chris Peterson                      
Research Computing Services                      e-mail: peterson@hpl.hp.com 
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories                           phone: (415) 857-6432
Palo Alto, California USA                                fax: (415) 857-5686
From: mel@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa Marie Pehl)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: advanced certification
Date: 11 Jan 1993 08:23:05 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: mel@convex.csd.uwm.edu

I just completed my book and confined water training for PADI's open water
dive course and plan to do my open water dives in Florida over break.  I am
going with my class and our instructors from the dive shop.  While we are 
there the instructors told us that we could also complete the requirements 
for our advanced certification.  Since we have not really received any 
instruction or training yet on the required dives, I wondered if anyone
could suggest some books or reference materials I could read before I trip
so that I am better prepared for the dives?

Please send any suggestions directly to me at: 
mel@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Thank you,

Melissa

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:55:16 GMT

In article 26028@umr.edu, tstead@cs.umr.edu (Tim Steadham) writes:
>Hey, this may sound silly at first, but are there any cool decompression
>"games" that you play?  What I mean are things to entertain you while you
>are making some of those long deco stops.  I tried checkers a few times, albeit
>fun, but tipping the board over and having the pieces land in the silt can be
>quite bothersome :*)  What have you done to pass the time and the N2 (sorry,
>couldn't resist the pun *snicker*)

[stuff deleted]


My father used to be a Royal Navy clearance diver (many decades ago) and he tells stories about playing chess whilst waiting out deco stops. They used to play in their heads over the intercom with the surface though, an option not really open to us. I suppose you could write moves on a slate, as long as you could hold the board in your head.

He also told me once that he found a paperback book on the bottom of Malta's Grand Harbour and waited out the stop by reading it!

---


Regards,

Hugh.
------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't speak for Xerox, nor they for me.

Rank Xerox European Systems Centre, Welwyn Garden City, Herts., UK.
Mail to; Huge.wgc1@rx.xerox.com, whatever it says in the header.
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: ScubaPro + Equip Purchase
Keywords: ScubaPro equipment regulator BC
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:31:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1iv0h2INNc6b@CS.UTK.EDU> bangs@cs.utk.edu (Alex L. Bangs) writes:
>
>A couple of questions:
>(1) Any preferences for the D250 vs. the D350? The dive shop suggests the D350
>    for more novice divers (where I fit in), for simpler control 

Hell, I consider the D350 better for experienced divers: less gadgets
and gewgaws to get sand/silt stuck in.  The G250 is a nice regulator,
by all rights.  If my D300 (replaced by the D350) hadn't had to be
overhauled three times in one year (about once every 40 dives that
year), I'd be praising it quite a bit.  I still dive with it as my
primary, 'cause I like the way it breathes (very smooth, no snags in
the breathing), it's light, and it's easy to tune on the site.

I also own a pair of Poseidon Odins (deep dives only), a USDivers
SE-21 (reliable backup and pony reg), and a Dacor 960XLPG (yuck!).

>(2) I like the Air II; it is what we used in my pool classes. 
>     Does anyone have any strong thoughts on the Air II?

Yes: it's overpriced and unreliable, not to mention incompatible with
standard (small) BC quick-connect fittings.  The only reason to buy
one is if you really really want to eliminate one hose, and you don't
mind carrying spare parts and tools for it when you go on vacation to
remote places.

>  Any thoughts	on front adjustable vs. the regular Scuba Pro?

Scubapro's BC's do last a long time, but they're ackward if they don't
fit, and overpriced for the value.  I have had a SeaQuest Spectrum 4
for about 300 dives now, and the ONLY thing that's changed in those
dives is that the straps have browned (from black.)  VERY well made,
and much more adjustable than the Scubapro.

As for your depth gauge, the Oceanic console seems to be the smallest
console around, and the units can be interchanged since the round
modules are standard sizes.  The batteries on the bottom timer die
about every 18 months, but I've never had to pay Oceanic to replace
them.  Good thing, because most folks on the east coast say it takes
about 3 weeks to get anything from Oceanic.  They're in California,
and they're really fast out here.

Cheers,

David Story                        NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com           Better diving through inflatables.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jcurrie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (James Gordon Currie)
Subject: Re: "liquid Breathing" -long
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:42:47 GMT

          Hmmm... The only problem I forsee is that ALL the methods of
"liquid breathing" tested sofar, wash away the  cerfactants(sp) that exist
in the lungs of the test subjects (some of which where divers who had 
volunteered to undergo the test), causing total lung collapse in both (or,
in one case where the test was done in only one of the diver's lungs, he 
was breathing gaseous air in the other, the one breathing the "liquid air"
collapsed) lungs, requiring an emergency treatment and a few days of 
observation in the hospital. Until they can come up with a liquid medium that
doesn't scrub away the cerfactants in a user's lungs, "liquid air" tanks for
diving will remain in the realm of sci-fi.

Ciao
J G Currie
From: dd76@umail.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:19:42 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland - Zoology

In article <1993Jan5.134249.1428@fmg.bt.co.uk>, pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young) writes:
> 
> Jordan Weinstein (jweinstein@igc.apc.org) wrote:
> 
> : BOSTON AREA, SJM, 43, NON-RELIGIOUS, SELF-AWARE, SOMETIME-ACTIVIST, NEWS
> 
> I take it you mean Boston, Lincolnshire?
> 
> Get a clue, fuckwit. This is rec.scuba, a worldwide Usenet newsgroup.
> Not a lonely hearts club for the terminally clueless. 
> 
> Now go away and don't come back until you have something interesting
> about diving to say, preferrably *after* you have discovered where the
> CAPS LOCK key is.
> -- 
>   ____________________________________________________________________
>   Pete Young        	  pky@fmg.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 227151
>  "Cast your bread upon the waters and you will get back... soggy bread"  
> 
> 

Thanks, Pete!

ditto from me.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: harlan@crchh347.bnr.ca (Bruce Harlan)
Subject: Sherwood regulator / Dacor guages + misc. forsale
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:44:35 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc.

--> Harlan    Items For Sale

The regulator is a 1989 model and has been used 7 times.
Sherwood Primary, Sherwood Oasis Secondary, Sherwood Octopus
Dacor Analog guages     |  Guages and compass
  depth                 |  all
  pressure with temp    |  glow in the dark.
Dacor model VCP Compass |
remote hose for BC inflator
booties size 11
Dacor Turboflex fins - Large
Scubapro Jetfin fins
Dacor Mask, Tekna Snorkel
Liberator mask - needs lenses
Unknown make mask with corrective lenses
Deep See mesh bag to keep all this in.
All this for $500.00 package price. I will not be selling separate items.
Another $25.00 on the package price gets another set of Dacor fins,
an additional mask and snorkel.

=========================================================================

Blackburn Mag Trackstand
Has about 20 miles on it.
No bike modifications necessary to use.


We found out that wind training wasn't for us, so we put the Trackstand
in the closet. Now, we have a baby on the way and we need the closet
space (and the money).

This item sells for $220.00 at Richardson Bikemart (Ok, it's $219.99)
That's $237.59 with 8% tax- more than $17.00 in tax!
Pick this up for $200.00 (I don't charge tax) and save $37.00!

=========================================================================

Call Bruce (214) 684-4620 (Richardson, Texas)
Call anytime and leave a message if you don't catch me.
email works, too.






Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: SUMMARY: Shots needed for Hondouras?
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:08:19 GMT
Reply-To: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller)
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center


	Most responses said that they either got or considered malaria shots.
Several people did say that they knew of or were told of cases of malaria from
Guanaja, Roatan, or other places in Honduras/Central America.  Even cases where
one person got it and no one else in the group did.

	One responder suggested I call CDC.  I did so and got a slew of
information on possible diseases.   Possible diseases included measles,
cholera (sp?), hepatitus a&b, typhoid, rabies, malaria and dengay (?) fever.
The only ones that they suggested considering getting preventative treatment
for were measles, hepatitus a, tetnus, and malaria.  For malaria they suggested
only using chloraquine (sp?), avoiding being outside at dusk and dawn, and 
using a bug repellant with deet.   There also is a pediatric deet for children.
They don't recommend using a deet repellant with over 30% deet.  She said that
it has caused bad reactions in some people over that strength.  She said that
the malaria treatment doesn't guarantee you won't get malaria.  For three
months after you return you should see your doctor immediately if you have
any flue type symptoms.  She said that the response to treatment for malaria
is good if it is caught early.  She said (and other posters agreed) that
mosquitoes fly and being on an island or in a "nice" resort doesn't mean a
thing.  But by avoiding dusk and dawn when they are most active and using
the deet repellant, you can help minimize your chances.  
	BTW, the CDC people were very informative, almost too much so.  It
gets a little alarming when they start rattling off all these diseases.  On
could get paranoid and just stay  at home I guess.
	Thanks for all of the responses.


Julia
From: geary%cfa3.DECNET@cfa.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Orca Marathon deal
Date: 7 Jan 1993 09:20:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

If anyone going to Bonaire in the near future is interested in a
good deal on new Orca Marathon dive computers, Bruce Bowker (Carib
Inn) is currently selling them at $199.  No sales tax, either.  I
haven't seen any comparable prices in the US, even from mail-order
houses.


             OOo O                John Geary
             O oO                 PADI DM-52283 
              o                   geary@cfa.harvard.edu 
       _____ o o 
      (_/-\_).. 
     ===(O). 

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Subject: RE: Decompression "Games"
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:30:01 GMT

     One of the original posters in this thread offered to give
instructions on how to blow rings.  (I wouldn't have believed it
could be done if I hadn't recently seen a photo in an old National
Geographic.)  If you're still listening, whoever you are, could
you please post it?  I'd love to impress my friends...  :-)

Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
(having a ball shooting macro with my Aquashot...)
From: pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:42:49 GMT
Organization: British Telecom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Jordan Weinstein (jweinstein@igc.apc.org) wrote:

: BOSTON AREA, SJM, 43, NON-RELIGIOUS, SELF-AWARE, SOMETIME-ACTIVIST, NEWS

I take it you mean Boston, Lincolnshire?

Get a clue, fuckwit. This is rec.scuba, a worldwide Usenet newsgroup.
Not a lonely hearts club for the terminally clueless. 

Now go away and don't come back until you have something interesting
about diving to say, preferrably *after* you have discovered where the
CAPS LOCK key is.
-- 
  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young        	  pky@fmg.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 227151
 "Cast your bread upon the waters and you will get back... soggy bread"  
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: martin@dvorak.amd.com (Martin Schuessler)
Subject: Re: M values and Buehlmann a and b parameters
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:56:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.103556.1@elde1.epfl.ch> walz@elde1.epfl.ch writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>Could anybody tell me what is the relation between the Buehlmann a and b
>parameters and M values ?  The meaning of a and b is the following:
>
>  tolerated pressure = (compartment N2 pressure - a) * b
>
>M.Walz

There is no implied relationship between the a and b coefficients and the
M value. The way the equation works is as follows:
Compartment pressure can be calculated from the exponential solution relating
pressure at depth, exposure time, etc.
Knowing this value, you may determine the pressure (ie depth) you can ascend
to by way of the a and b coefficients. If the tolerated pressure if higher
than 1.0 bar, you'll have to make a deco stop at the pressure (depth) you
just calculated. Any tolerated pressure below 1.0 bar implies you can 
ascend to the surface. 
This is also the way altitude compensation is carried out in the Buehlmann
model. At altitude, the surface pressure is less than 1.0 bar. Therefore,
the "tolerated pressure" must be equal to the surface pressure to allow
ascent to the surface. For example: at 3500 m above sea level, the ambient
pressure is about 0.7 bar. For a diver to ascend straight to the surface,
his tolerated pressure must be 0.7 or less, rather than 1.0 at the surface.
M-values can probably be applied here, but when I think of the Buehlmann
model, my brain always goes into "metric mode".

Martin Schuessler
PADI DM-59146

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Shots needed for Hondouras?
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:41:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.150819.20142@crd.ge.com>, millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller) writes:
> 
> cholera (sp?)

Yes, it's spelled right and it has had outbreaks all over Central and
South America recently.  To protect yourself from it, eat only cooked
vegetables (in some areas human fecal material is used for fertilizer
or the irrigation is done with contaminated water), eat only fruits
that can be peeled, wash your hands regularly and drink only bottled
water (make sure that you open the bottle and that it wasn't brought
to the table already open i.e. it was filled from the tap).  Oh, and
remember to brush your teeth with bottled water too.  

As they say:  Cholera prevention is in your hands...  Wash them!

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant
Disclaimer:     Monsanto didn't say this, I did!
Stupid Quote:   Money is simply alcohol in a 
                more easily transportable form.
                                            - Me

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