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From: kelley@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sean Kelley)
Subject: Re: intermittent oil leak
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:24:22 GMT

jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:

>Here is a probelm I personally find unusual.  Again, this is with my 74
>cadillac which is presently making up for years of trouble free use.
>The car has developed an oil and tranny leak but these leaks appears to be
>intermittent.  The car was going fine with no leak at all.  Then, one
>day about 2 weeks ago my wife parked in a friends driveway and about 10
>minutes later I noticed A LOT of oil running out under the car.  I lost
>1.5 qt oil and 1 qt tranny fluid all at once in that instance.  I place the car up on ramps and found tranny pan wet all around but not anywhere above
>it.  Leak appeared to be from tranny pan gasget.  I also found that the
>oil pan but not the engine above was wet with oil and the oil appeared to
>be coming from around the pan edge at both the front and back (where it
>meets the tranny).  I refilled both fluids and continued to watch it with
>intent of repairing soon.  For 2 weeks now the car has held it's fluids
>not lost a drop.  How is this possible?  Aslo, for when the time comes
>to do such work as replace these gasgets, how can I jack the car?  It
>weighs 5000 pounds curb weight.  It has over the years bent and colapsed
>3 sets of ramps and pushed more than it's fair share of jacks down
>through the pavement.  Anyone have experience with jacking cars this
>heavy and working under them?  Obviously, due to it's tendency to
>collaps ramps and sink jacks I am reluctant to stay under it for long.
>These ramps and jacks WERE all rated to be strong enough for this car.

>Ji
well, as far as the weight of the car goes, there is a trick that I
heard about from some truck(the big 4x4) racers...
they take some 2x4's and cut them to about 4 four length...and run them
about five per level, and make about 8-10 levels out of the 2x4's and
nail the levels together...if this enough to hold up the big trucks, i
think that it should work for your caddy....

as far as the leaks...hummmm....does sound like a problem...is it the
pan gasket???...both that is???...i did not know better, i would say
that your car has a gremlin, or some one just poured some oil under your
car just to make you go mad...
m
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From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Wanted desperately: Windshield for Nissan 200SX
Summary: windshield
Keywords: windshield
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:39:37 GMT


 First of all let me appologize if this is the wrong group.
 Do you think we should have a group by the name of
 rec.autos.parts.wanted    ???
 
  I needed windshield for my Nissan/Datsun 200SX, model 1982
 Its a liftback. If anyone has one or knows a place I can find
 one at a good price, please let me know.
 Thanx alot in advance.

Mubashir.

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From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Range Rover and Explorer Experiences
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:38:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I'd like to hear from owners of the subject vehicles as to
how they like them, and good/bad experiences.
 
E-mail please... ...I'm sure the Explorer, at least, has 
been hashed to death in this group!
 
Greg
From: Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: shipping a car to other state...
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:20:53 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I would suggest that if you are making a major move, it might be
cheaper to save airfare and save the costs of a moving van by renting
from u-haul.  They have trailers to carry cars behind their trucks.  It
won't be cheaper than $425, but if you add in $200 airfare, you'll do
better by renting from u-haul and driving it yourself.  And you'll get
a truck to boot to carry your belongings in.

Bri
From: sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep Sharma)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Luxury Performance Cars
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:49:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA


 Have you driven not the BMW 535i sedan but the M5?
 It will blow the sh*t out of most sport cars!

 Sean.
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From: tomb@atp.serum.kodak.com (Tom "USA" Bullinger (x37419))
Subject: Maxima Stalling Problem...
Summary: Dies when hot and decelerating. 
Reply-To: tomb@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:28:09 GMT

Hi all,
   I'm having a minor problem with my '84 Maxima and I'm wondering if anyone
can help me diagnose the problem. The car runs very ice until it's up to
temperature. Then it tends to stall when decelerating. It doesn't do this
at highway speeds, only when approaching a turn or stop-light. Otherwise
the car runs great. After a stall, the car can only be re-started by turning
the key off, then back on. If the car is moving fast enough, it starts
by itself. Otherwise, the starter has to be used. I've checked the ignition,
and it seems to have power all the time. I think it may the fuel injection
but don't know where to start looking. My first thought is to replace the
fuel injection computer, but it's $400 and not returnable. The dealer is no
help, as they can;t test this damn thing. Forages to the junkyard have left 
me empty handed. Help! The car is a 1984 Maxima with a 2.4 liter straight-6 
and an automatic. There are only 24K miles on the car, so I don't think 
anything is worn out yet! Thanks in advance for your help!
	tomb..

	tomb@serum.kodak.com
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From: Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ++WHAT ARE BEST OILS FOR CAR/BIKE??++
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:14:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


 knew a guy at work who had a van w/ 98K miles and he had only changed the
oil ONCE at 5K miles!!!and it ran fine....

Sidd
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Integra pricing
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:31:46 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Jul 92 20:30:18 GMT, gnelson@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Gregory Nelson) said:

gnelson> I'm looking to buy a '92 Acura Integra with A/C and possibly
gnelson> an AM/FM/cass.  The dealers have been giving me prices in the
gnelson> neighborhood of $12,900 or so.  Any idea what these cars
gnelson> _should_ be going for?  What's the best time to buy?  Will
gnelson> they be more desperate come the end of August when the '93s
gnelson> are coming in?  Any word on revisions for the '93s?

gnelson> Any suggestions/advice on buying a new car or dealing with
gnelson> Acura dealers in particular will be gratefully accepted.  I'm
gnelson> a rookie at this so I can use all the help I can get!

If its an LS, thats a good price. If it's an RS, sounds a little high,
but it depends on what other extras (if any) are on it. When the new
models come in, you could most likely get a better deal, especially if
the 93 have distinct revisions. Anyone seen a 93 yet?
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From: finnegan@corsair.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Re: 4wd sports utility recommendations sought
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:34:12 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-229]: corsair.navo.navy.mil

In article <1992Jul21.175452.4349@news.csd.sgi.com>, jesse@camelot.sgi.com (Jesse Rendleman) writes:
|> In article <Jul21> johnc@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (John Cooley) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jul21> traiger@cheshire.oxy.edu (Saul Traiger) writes:
|>  Any ideas on
|> >>models which meet these conditions?
|> >
|> >Soapbox mode on:
|> ...
|> >P.S.  I have not updated my voluminous SUV posting lately, but will do so and
|> >repost if there is interest.  
|> 
|> Please don't!  I think everyone here is aware of your crusade 
|> against the "SUV" from your many previous posts on the subject.
|> 
|> One factor you overlook in recommending 4wd minivans over SUVs
|> is that most (all?) of these vans have two front doors, and *one*
|> sliding side door.  This means if you have two passengers in the
|> back, one of them has to slide/crawl/limbo into their seat.

BINGO!  My wife and I just went through this exercise, and this is the
exact point she brought up.  After dragging a child from the far side 
of the van 20 times a day, I think most people would have the same
opinion. Why don't minivans offer a door on each
side?  Little vehicles like the axed Nissan Axxess had them, so why not
the larger ones?  

BTW, we ended up buying an Isuzu Trooper.  We needed 4wd to pull sailboats
off of a sandy beach, and the thing is a lot of fun to drive.

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
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From: valdesus@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph Valdesuso)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Opinions sought on a car purchase : Saturn vs. Honda
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:22:20 GMT
Reply-To: valdesus@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph Valdesuso)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos, mike@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Michael C. Sidman) writes:
>What type of experiences do you have with the Saturn 4-door vs. Honda
>Civic?  I'm looking for info on their mechanical reliability, the level
>of comfort that they provide for the driver, and what you like the most
>or least about the respective model/company.
>
>Any replies (posted or mail) are greatly appreciated!
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael
According to consumer reports, the Saturn has a smoother shifting transmission
better braking, handled their manuverability course with less body lean
and less waging of its rear.  The Saturn also finish 3rd in the 92 customer
satisfaction poll behind Infiniti and Lexus.  The Saturn is also less
expensive.  The Saturn also offers air bag and anti-lock brakes with
out  buying an option package. The Civic makes you buy an package to
get an air bag,antilocking brakes that may cost thousands more. Sarturn
offers a 1500 mile/30 day refund on the car and the extended bumper
to bumper warranty is refunded if you do you it.  Cosumer Reports also
reported that the Saturn has the highest reliability of any car in its
class for the two yearss it has been out.

offers a
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From: tpham@bnr.ca (Thanh Pham)
Subject: 93 MX-6 Prices
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:30:57 GMT

newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 93 MX-6 Opinions/Price
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Keywords: 

My sister is thinking of buying a 93 MX-6.  Has anybody 
recently bought one??  The dealers here in the Dallas/FW area
are quoting her 17-18K for a 4-cylinder w/ sunroof, automatic,
and AC.  Is this an OK price.  I am interested in what netters
out there who recently bought this car have to say about this
price range.  Any experience/insights are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Tom Pham
From: karl@isgtec.com (Karl Sewlochan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Toyota Supra Repost
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:53:13 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

: From article <9207211702.aa25119@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>, by pcolline@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU:
: > Earlier I posted about Supra's but only one person replied by email.
: > Doesn't anyone own one of these or even like them?
: 

A whole bunch of us own and like them.  Try sending a request to join
the supra mailing list at supras-request@vicor.com

A new supra is coming out soon (early spring) and rumours say that:
    - possible engines include a twin-turbo 300hp 3.0 litre or
      a 4.0 litre V-8
    - transmission choices would be a 6 speed manual or 5 speed auto
    - lower hood, lower ground clearance

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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Unmarked COP Cars (Was Re: More CHP shit!)
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:10:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <TPAQUETTE.92Jul22100256@gumby.ita.lgc.com> tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette) writes:
>
>   In Alberta I have seen Mustang 5.0l being used on the highway between
> Calgary and Edmonton.
>   In BC I got pulled over by a Jet Black 1991 Thunderbird (Trubo?). Totally
> unmarked. The rear windows were tinted really dark. It looked just like
> any other Thunderbird. Until it was about 50 feet away from me and then
> my radar detector went nuts... 

Metallic blue Trans Am, painted with cop colours on the doors,
complete with polished allow wheels, tinted windows, T-roof, and
spoiler...Head on gunned me with instant-on. Too bad he did the
same
thing to the guy ahead of me...I was driving 100kph and waving at
him when my uniden lit up. heh heh heh, never underestmate the
utility of the rabbit car.


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From: mizutanit@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: <None>
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:05:13 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <SUDEEP.92Jul23154930@pundit.arc.UUCP>, sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep Sharma) writes:
> 
>  Have you driven not the BMW 535i sedan but the M5?
>  It will blow the sh*t out of most sport cars!
> 
>  Sean.

I agree 100%.

I drove a '91 M5 through the back roads (twisty curves and hills) around here,
and it was the most exhilarating drive I've had in a while (75-80 mph in a 25
mph zone).

Too bad they cost ~$45K even with a discount!

*'92 Maxima, 190HP, 0-60 6.7 sec.*
Cheap M5?
From: Berger@cup.portal.com (Mark - Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Paint and Scotchguard protection treatments??
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:46:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I have some experience in the car business, so I am speaking from that 
perspective regarding the question of paint/fabric sealant products.

First of all, I don't think that there is anything magic about these products
They are essentially car waxes and fab guards of the usual quality, backed
up by a warranty that explains most of the cost.  The cost to the dealer is
very low, so if you figure that the manufacturer/distributor makes some 
money selling it to the dealer, the true cost to the manufacturer is super
low (and they are making a profit).  I had some exposure to Touch of Class,
which is one of the few backed up by a lifetime warranty.  I know this 
sounds impressive (they fix if car fades), but I think they are working on 
the assumption that most cars get sold in the first 3-5 years, and then 

the warranty remains stuffed in a drawer with the first owner.  The risk
of a claim is then pretty low.  $200 is not much, if you think you need
the peace of mind.  You can add fabric protection yourself, and I think that
if you take care of the paint (frequent washing and regular waxing), you'll
be fine. I just don't think the products are magical.  You are buying the
warranty primarily.  GM, by the way, has had some problems with paint
quality in the past.  The warranty from the wax company would give you a
second place to go for relief if you did have a paint problem.  Mull this
all over for a bit.
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From: schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott)
Subject: Re: Spray In A Bedliner?
Summary: spray liner procedures 
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:51:27 GMT

 
So has anyone used these spray liners before? J.C Whitney's actually
has three different types. Some are one application systems, and other
use three different chemical sprays. My biggest concern is that once
you put this stuff on the back of your truck, it is there for
good! Ie, you screw it up and it looks like hell, you are stuck with 
it. From the looks of it, these spray in liners are every bit as
good as the expensive Rhino linning treatments, only about $275
cheaper. Anyone ACTUALLY used these before though?
 

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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Visone Corvette Dealer?
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:54:19 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

Does anyone out there know anything about Visone Corvette Dealership?
Are they a reputable dealer to buy a used Corvette from?
You can either email me or post your reply.  Thanks.

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From: neilf@natinst.com (Neil Feiereisel)
Subject: Plastic radiator drain plugs
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:28:30 GMT

1986 Ford Tempo in Austin, Texas (where it's *very* hot)

My tempo has a plastic radiator drain plug that comes in two pieces, the
base piece that you snap into an opening in the bottom of the radiator, and
a screw-in piece that screws in and out of the base piece. 

It seems that the mechanics who recently replaced the water pump stripped the
base unit.  The screw-in piece dissapeared suddenly and my radiator emptied at 
a stoplight.  A good samaritan who helped me get a new base unit and drain plug
put in also seemed to have stripped the base unit by turning the screw-in piece
too far and too hard.  Antifreeze was leaking from the drain plug.  When I tried
to tighten it, I could turn it endlessly, never really getting it tight.

So I put another one in.  Not wanting to strip it again, I put it in pretty 
tight, but was careful not to strip it.  But now (just like the other ones it
seems), it slowly works its way loose.  It still leaks after the car gets
heated up (doesn't leak on a short 5 mile trip).  Today when I tightened it up
again, it had worked its way loose by almost a full turn.

Doesn anybody have any ideas why it would be so easy to work it's way loose?
Also, any ideas as to what I can do?  I don't want to have to replace the
radiator because of a plastic drain plug!  These replacement drain plugs were
made in Taiwan and purchased at the local auto parts store.  Perhaps a drain
plug from Ford would be tougher and allow me to tighten it better?

Thanks in advance,
Neil
From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Yet another promo from Ford?
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:32:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division

In article <1992Jul31.133608.22326@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, bair@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (matthew.a.bair) writes:
> 
> Netters,
> 
> Has anyone else heard about some promo Ford is pushing.  I guess if you have
> a Ford car now, Ford will give the original sticker price (when you made the
> purchase) minus 15 cents a mile (based on the cars currently mileage.)  I
> believe this is only good against the purchase of a 93 Ford vehicle at
> sticker price.  Now, do understand this correctly.  I suppose this idea might
> be advantageous depending upon your current car.
> 
> Thanx,
> 
> M Bair
> bair@ihlpm.att.com


What?  I'd owe them $17K  to trade my '80 Bronco !!!
($10K - 0.15*180,000 = -$17K )

This would only work for new cars with low mileage.
(Neighbors '87 T-bird:  $16K - 0.15*32,000 = $11.2K)

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From: kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Extended warranties for Hondas
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:03:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.


I will be buying a 1992 Honda Civic LX in about a week.  The dealer is
offering an extended warranty plan through Heritage Insurance Group (A
Quaker State Company).

First of all (all you Honda owners out there) do I need a warranty beyond
the 3-year bumper-to-bumper warranty that comes with the car?  (I have a
1988 Mazda 323 for which I bought a $400.00 extended warranty.  Am I
glad I did!!)

Also, has anyone out there dealt with Heritage Insurance?

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