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From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Subject: Re: Is a double major possible in grad school?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:34:36 GMT

Thus spake karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr): 

>Finding a place that will allow you to keep your job is much harder--
>not only does it have to be part-time, but within commuting distance
>as well.
>
	A number of institutions are geared toward the employed adult
learner. The Union Institute in Ohio, for instance, is a fully accredited
institution offering low residency Ph.D programs which may be pursued by a
working individual. Felding Insititute, Nova, and Walden have similar
programs while Goddard College, Vermont College, Antioch, and Leslie College
all offer accredited Masters programs with low residency requirements.

	Many of these institutions (including Union) offer multi-
disciplinary programs; all are listed in most graduate school guides, as
well as in Bear's Guide to Non Traditional College Degrees.


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From: madrid@wam.umd.edu (Gonzalo De Cea-Naharro Romero)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: GRE
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:46:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Can anubody recommend a good GRE preparatory book?

madrid@wam.umd.edu
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Statement of Objective
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:58:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Oct05.185818.22438
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1aoflnINNfjs@coral.bucknell.edu>, desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan GR) writes:
> There was some request in this group before regarding the statement of objective.
> Is there a new newsgroup where this is discussed?
> 

   I don't think so.  I had heard that there was not enough interest
in this.  However, I think we could discuss it in this newsgroup,
if you want.

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From: aeretana@eos.ncsu.edu (ALVARO ENRIAGE RETANA)
Subject: INFO needed on LSU's MSEE program 
Keywords: LSU, MSEE 
Reply-To: aeretana@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: NCSU
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:13:34 GMT

Does anyone have any info on LSU's MSEE Program?

Please send it to me or post it!

Thanks.

Alvaro.

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From: adamsr@netcom.com (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Is a double major possible in grad school?
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:20:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Thus spake clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin): 

>   I've never heard of a double major in graduate school.  They
>must think that it's too much to handle or that one ought to
>make up their minds.   It seems that they allow some creative
>ways of getting degrees for undergraduates but not graduates.
>If you're more interested in the course work than the degree,
>you can, of course, just take courses in both areas.  And,
>sometimes they do allow some courses taken in other areas,
>so that if you major in one area, you can still take courses
>in another major.  It's usually related of course.  And, if
>you have plenty of time, you could always do one degree first,
>and the second degree later on.
>
	Depends on the institution. I'm doing a double in Criminal Justice
and Psychology (as an alternative to a concentration in Forensic
Psychology), and I know a number of individuals who are doing concentrations
in similar areas (Psych/Law, Psych/Medicine, CJ/Law, Psych/Biology, Poli
Sci/Law, etc.). I'm sure there are any number of individuals in other fields
who are pursuing similar objectives. Many institutions which are based on
the Oxford model encourage cross disciplinary studies - even some
traditional schools (i.e., Michigan State University) have cross
disciplinary graduate programs.

	Planning is of paramount importance in such a program (you have to
make every credit count and to creatively integrate your fields), but the
benefits are substantial.

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From: jrj@hayworth.lanl.gov (Jeffrey Johnson)
Subject: Software Engineering Programs
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Reply-To: jrj@hayworth.lanl.gov
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:09:46 GMT
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I am looking for information about MS and PhD programs in Software Engineering.
Any school names as well as any information you might have available would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeff Johnson
Internet: jrj@hayworth.lanl.gov
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: NSF advice
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:06:24 GMT
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I have a question regarding the applications for the NSF grant.  The question  
is one that I intend to pose to the National Science Foundation directly, but I  
thought that I would post it here to see if anybody has any ideas about it.

I am a double major in Mathematics and Physics and I intend to graduate school  
in one of those areas, or in Linguistics.  Will I need to apply for three NSF  
grants or just one?

(A note to the person who was asking for NSF's address: I don't have it on me  
or I would post it.  If nobody has responded next time I'm in News and I have  
the application with me, I'll post what I know.  BE WARNED: Find out ASAP,  
because the initial deadline is something like November 6th.  If you call  
nearly any US college or university, somebody there will have information about  
the NSF, I'm fairly sure..)

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From: bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo,misc.wanted,sci.geo.geology
Subject: Wanted:  College Information
Keywords: travel/tourism, hotel/restaurant management, geology
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:25:57 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa

Hi,

  I am looking for the following information on colleges in the
  western area of the US, especially in Colorado, San Franciso,
  and just California in general.

  - colleges with a deparment in travel/tourism or hotel/restaurant management
  - colleges with a good geology department
  - any good geology schools in Colorado?

  I would appreciate any information via email.
  Thank you.

 
  Brandon
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From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Statement of Objective
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:35:17 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct05.185818.22438@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>In article <1aoflnINNfjs@coral.bucknell.edu>, desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan GR) writes:
>> There was some request in this group before regarding the statement of objective.
>> Is there a new newsgroup where this is discussed?
>> 
>
>   I don't think so.  I had heard that there was not enough interest
>in this.  However, I think we could discuss it in this newsgroup,
>if you want.
>
>--
>Charles Lin
>clin@eng.umd.edu

I was just talking to the director of graduate studies for Computer
Science at NC State and mentioned that my GPA was less than a 3.0.

First, I had just been to UNC and they (one woman, actually) recommended
I _not_ talk to the director until I took my GRE's (gonna in December)
because they are _so_ selective of who they let in.

Anyway, OB_statement-of-objective:

The director at State told me that I should take some classes at state
before applying to the MS program, i.e. there's this PBS program 
(post bacclaureate studies) which allows anyone to take the same classes
as the rest of the school.  So, I'
m taking one in the spring, and I need to get an A in it.
So, here's the other thing...
He also said that I should mention in my sop the reason why I got the grades
I did (assuming it's not because the rest of the school was smarter than
me - which is most likely).
Has anyone else had such an experience?
I don't really think that I have much of an explanation for my grades - 
incidentally I got a 2.65 - except that I partied too much and didn't
ask for help early enough in a class to get myself out of trouble. 

Of course I began to realize this come senior year, but by then it was 
obviously too late.

hm.

later.

andy
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Statement of purpose
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park


   There was some discussion earlier on about statements of purposes.
Was there supposed to be a newsgroup or something concerning this?
It would be interesting to have some forum for discussing what makes
a good statement, though I sometimes wonder how important the
statement is.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: desikan@bucknell.edu (sridhar desikan GR)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: GRE
Date: 6 Oct 1992 07:30:33 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct5.204636.8845@wam.umd.edu>, madrid@wam.umd.edu (Gonzalo De Cea-Naharro Romero) writes:
|> Can anubody recommend a good GRE preparatory book?
|> 
|> madrid@wam.umd.edu

If you are preparing for GRE general test, the preparation text widely used is 
by Petersons. It is very popular and will be available in all book stores. 
However the practice tests in the book are not good ones and it is advisible to
take the actual tests published by ETS.

desikan
desikan@pleiades.bucknell.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:52:27 EDT
From: <GHADSAL@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Clinical-Health Programs


                     THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY
                   4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
                      Washington, DC  20016
                          (202)885-1600

                Department of Health and Fitness



The following list exemplifies the broad scope of
undergraduate offerings in the department of Health and
Fitness.

Course Level: 100

          Swimming (Beginning, Intermediate)
          Lifesaving/Lifeguard Training
          Bowling
          Martial Arts (Beginning, Intermediate,
                    Advanced)
          Personal Defense
          Fencing
          Golf (Beginning, Advanced)
          Recreational Activities
                    Volleyball
                    Badminton
                    Soccer
          Horseback Riding (Beginning, Intermediate,
                    Advanced)
          Tennis (Beginning, Intermediate, Advanced)
          Racquetball/Squash
          Aquatic Fitness/Water Aerobics
          Principles and Techniques of Weight Training
          Aerobic Dance

Course Level: 200

          Lifetime Fitness Lecture Series
          Growth and Development Through The Life
                    Cycle
          SCUBA
          SCUBA Certification Laboratory
          Basic Rock Climbing
          High Level Conditioning
          Nutrition and Modern Food
          Strategies in Stress Reduction
          First Aid, CPR, and Medical Emergencies

Course Level: 300

          Water Safety
          Care and Prevention of Athletic Injuries
          Women's Health
          Dealing with Sexual Assault
          Modern Theories of Health and Wellness
          Camping and Backpacking

Course Level: 400

          Physiology of Exercise


Department of Health and Fitness
Graduate Program


Course Level: 600

          Applied Human Physiology and Testing (I & II)
          Strategic Planning in Health Promotion
          Nutrition for Health Fitness

Course Level: 700

          Selected Topic in Health Fitness Management
          Research Methodology in Health Fitness
          In-Service Training in Health and Fitness
                    Management
          Master's Thesis Seminar in Health and Fitness
                    Management

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From: xmc@buphyk.bu.edu (Simon Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Help, E-mail address of EE department in USC needed
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:03:50 GMT

Would anyone who knows the e-mail address of electrical engineering
department in USC, be kind to tell me the address for asking for
information? or the BITNET or INTERNET site (like @???.usc.edu)? I really appreciate it. 

Please reply to my address: xmc@buphyk.bu.edu

simon chen
From: zou@ccs.northeastern.edu (Chendong Zou)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: top cs 50
Keywords: top cs 50!
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:19:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
Originator: zou@sun3140f.ccs.northeastern.edu


I would like the up-date list of the top  50 computer science departments
in the states. Anyone can help? Thank you!
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From: be549@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robin Coose)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: CS email address wanted
Date: 6 Oct 1992 07:20:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi, I am a senior student in computer sci.. Now I am planning to 
go to graduated school in us.  I heard there is a email address
list of comuter deptr in those most famous univ.  If you have
that, could you send to me via email at :
  be549@cleveland.freenet.edu


Thanx a lot.

Rob
From: ksh@mayo.edu (Kerrie Holton, Medical Sciences, Summer Student)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: MSc in Economics after a BEng
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:19:47 GMT
Reply-To: ksh@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation

I know many engineering students who get their bachelor's and go directly
into business school for an MBA.  You will probably have to take the
GMAT, a test required by most schools.  Write them for more info.

Kerrie
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From: akkiraju@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Nataraj Akkiraju)
Subject: depts offering grad progms in remote sensing
Originator: akkiraju@yoyodyne.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:32:40 GMT


Hello everyone.
I would like to know about universities
that offeri graduate degree programs
in Remote Sensing.
Would any such program be affiliated to
the civil engineering program ?

Any information would be much appreciated.
Please send any response to akkiraju@ncsa.uiuc.edu

Nataraj.


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From: laucy@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Julian Lau)
Subject: Re: top cs 50
Keywords: top cs 50!
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:12:55 GMT

Greetings all,

I'm doing some personal research into multi-media and was wondering if 
theres any courses out there that can suggest some good de-facto reference
text.  

Please email personally to me:  laucy@newton.ccs.tuns.ca

Thanks much and best regards.


Julian.  

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From: stojanof@unlv.edu (George Stojanoff)
Subject: Re: top cs 50
Keywords: top cs 50!
Organization: UNLV
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:38:08 GMT


> I would like the up-date list of the top  50 computer science departments
> in the states. Anyone can help? Thank you!

The following are the top 5 computer science graduate schools according
to US News & World Report (March 23,1992,p.83):

	1. MIT
	2. Stanford
	3. Carnegie Mellon University
	4. Univ. of Cal. at Berkeley
	5. Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Chmapaign

Note that the above ranking is based on reputation only.

I found another ranking of CS grad. schools based purely on publications by
G.M. Schneider in the December 1989 SIGCSE BULLETIN ("A Quantitative Evaluation
Of Graduate Programs In Computer Science in The United States and Canada",
p.20,Vol.21,No.4). Its a pretty interesting paper in which Schneider 
explains exactly how he came upon his results.

	1. Purdue
	2. MIT
	3. USC
	4. Stanford
	5. Illinois
	6. Carnegie-Mellon
	7. Berkeley
	8. Toronto
	9. Maryland
	10. Cornell
	11. Massachusetts
	12. Texas
	13. Michigan
	14. NYU
	15. Waterloo
	16. Wisconsin
	17. UC-Irvine
	18. Minnesota
	19. Washington
	20. Brown
	21. Yale
	22. UCLA
	23. SUNY-Albany
	24. Rochester

Remember that the above listing is 3 years old, and note that according
to Schneider schools which have a very close ranking to one another
might have "minor differences in rank [which] are statistically
insignificant."

I don't really know how much these rankings can help in finding a 
graduate program to fit your needs. I only used them as a point of
departure. I think the best way is to simply write as many schools 
as possible for information (it only costs you 29 cents a letter). 
You can find addresses and some info in _Peterson's Graduate Programs
in Engineering & Applied Sciences_. Your university library should
have a copy, and since it's pretty handy you might want to buy a
copy ($34 without tax - I got mine at Waldenbooks).

Hope this helps,

George Stojanoff
From: rempel@skorpio.usask.ca (Allan Rempel)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Address for NSF
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:01:17 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada


Does anybody out there have an address for NSF (the National Science Foundation,
I think).  I understand they give out scholarships for grad students in the U.S.
but nobody here at my university in Canada seems to know anything about them.
S-mail address, email address, or phone number, I'll take whatever somebody has.
Thanks.

-- 
Allan Rempel
rempel@cs.usask.ca
From: winter@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Winter)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Address for NSF
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:41:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct5.180117.8985@access.usask.ca> rempel@skorpio.usask.ca (Allan Rempel) writes:
>
>Does anybody out there have an address for NSF (the National Science Foundation,
>I think).  I understand they give out scholarships for grad students in the U.S.
>but nobody here at my university in Canada seems to know anything about them.
>S-mail address, email address, or phone number, I'll take whatever somebody has.

i believe the address that you are looking for is:

The Fellowship Office
National Research Council
2101 Constitution Avenue
Washington, DC  20418

they administer all fellowships. and as another person said, do this
ASAP. the deadline for the first part of the application is early
November, or at least it was last year when i applied (but, alas didnt'
get one).

good luck. 
 nancy

p.s. these fellowships are generally for US citizens (and maybe
permanent residents) studying in the US.


>
>-- 
>Allan Rempel
>rempel@cs.usask.ca


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From: vinlai@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (vincent.lai)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Is a double major possible in grad school?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:03:59 GMT
Organization: AT&T

I am making future plans for my graduate education, and I am
considering the idea of pursuing two disciplines.  As an undergraduate,
I majored in Science and Psychology, with 16 credits in computer
science and no business courses.

I would consider majoring in Computer Science, Business, and
Psychology, the latter two being more important in terms of filling an
educational void.  I would pursue my graduate degree on a part-time
basis, as I am working now.  

Is all this feasible?  I honestly think I need to strengthen my formal
education in business and computer science, and I'd like to hear your
thoughts.  Thanks.

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From: stojanof@unlv.edu (George Stojanoff)
Subject: Re: top cs 50
Keywords: top cs 50!
Organization: UNLV
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:58:06 GMT


> >I found another ranking of CS grad. schools based purely on publications by
> >G.M. Schneider in the December 1989 SIGCSE BULLETIN ("A Quantitative Evaluation
> >Of Graduate Programs In Computer Science in The United States and Canada",
> >p.20,Vol.21,No.4). Its a pretty interesting paper in which Schneider 
> >explains exactly how he came upon his results.
> >
> >	1. Purdue
> >	2. MIT
> >	3. USC
> >	4. Stanford
> >	5. Illinois
> >	6. Carnegie-Mellon
>
> [other schools deleted]
>
>
> This just makes me want to laugh.  Yes, Purdue has a strong CS program, but I
> would not personally rank it FIRST in the nation, maybe somewhere between 3rd
> and 10th.  Given a choice in CS, I would have easily chosen MIT and CMU over
> Purdue any day.

I agree completely - but a ranking is a ranking. I found out about
this ranking by reading the bulletin for the CS dept. at the Univ.
of Maryland @ College Park (they used it to claim that their dept.
is in the top ten).

> I would like to see the resons why this guy ranked Purdue at the top, so I
> guess I owe myself a visit to the library.

Well, Schneider ranked schools by publications in reputable journals.
So it would seem that the most prolific (in publishing) department 
got the highest score.

>   Brian Hall
>
> -- 
>    Brian D. Hall
>    (bdhall@ecn.purdue.edu)

I can only advise to take rankings with a grain of salt ...

Later,

George Stojanoff
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