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From: coop1w13@bnr.ca (Mike Hammond)
Subject: Re: New Zealand Comic Strip
Reply-To: coop1w13@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fibre Systems Development
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:52:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.082012.3861@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:
|> In <1992Apr08.193035.2749@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:
|> 
|> >Has anyone out there heard of a comic strip from New Zealand called
|> >"something" Flats?  I forget what the first word is.
|> 
|> Footrot Flats.
|> 
|> >They seem to be less prudish in their strips down there as genitalia
|> >(especially sheep genitalia) is often shown and jokes made about it.
|> >It is bawdy in places, but not, I repeat, NOT obscene.
|> 
|> Most of the jokes are farming jokes. Quite respectable really!
|> 
|> >Anyone know of any books of it available?
|> 
|> Loads, but whether they're published outside NZ I don't know. You can by
|> them (imported) in London.
|> 
|> Jeremy
|> 
|> *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
|> | Jeremy Gibbons <jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>  CS Dept, Auckland Univ, NZ |
|> *---------------------------------------------------------------------*

This won't help much, but I remember my uncle in Saskatchewan had a book
of Footrot Flats. Hilarious cartoon, almost as funny as ``Fox Trot'' or
``Calvin and Hobbes''. So it may be available in central Canada. But I 
doubt it.

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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: ``Reality'' of Hobbes (was: "Reality" of C&H)
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:23:43 GMT

>  If you are going to prove that Hobbes is real, you are going to have
>to do better than this for evidence.  I want physical
>impossibilities!! 


Awwwwwww!  You guys take all the fun out of it.  Hobbes IS real, and it
really shouldn't be questioned.  That's where the magic comes in.  *Getting*
technical and scientific about it all takes out the magic in it regardless of
the outcome....
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twisted and destructive imagination.  Would YOU like to be my friend?"
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From: ss1@bofur.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Compilations (r.a.c.s FAQ?)
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:55:25 GMT

>I imagine the most useful thing that could go in this group's FAQ would be a
>bibliography of strip compilations, including publication data.  Anyone
>crazy enough to take submissions for this?

I'll do it, if there isn't anyone else out there who would like to.

Email address is ss1@kepler.unh.edu.  I'll take anything....
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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Bloom County and Outland - Political Satire or Characters?
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     I think one of the greatest strengths of Bloom County, one that
     is unfortunately only evidenced in repitiveness in Outland (IMO),
     is that Berke developed his characters into PEOPLE - people in
     a cartoon-satire setting to be sure, but people nonetheless.

     He's a big believer in telling truths with images - i.e., the
     satirical backbone of his strips - but the fantastic thing
     with Bloom County was that you could also have moments ala
     "Calvin and Hobbes" (to cite a modern reference) where you
     just go, "Awwww..."  

     It's an odd, and hard to reach, combination and he carried it
     off brilliantly.  



          ^Hot Damn, That Pie Was Good!^
                     Common Phrases Heard at
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From: derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Re: C&H:  Merchandising (was Re: HOBBES (of C&H) Bumper Sticker)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:00:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr10.013318.5274@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.193715.1@fnalf.fnal.gov>, morrow@fnalf.fnal.gov (The Third Elmo) writes...
>>In article <1992Apr9.224838.13447@oz.plymouth.edu>, pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier) writes:
>>>[describing Hobbes bumper sticker]
>>
>>       Bill Watterson does not allow Calvin & Hobbes to be merchandised in any
>>way. Any Calvin & Hobbes merchandise (I have seen Hobbes dolls, eg) is BOOTLEG
>>and Watterson does not receive a penny.  Please do NOT support anyone you see
>>hocking C&H material.
>
>     Gotta love his ethics.  Nice one, Bill.  
>
YES.  As much as I'd *love* to have a Hobbes doll (to go next to Opus on my
desk :-), and as much as I'd be happy to make him a rich man, I'm glad someone
as famous as he is has taken a stand like this.  Guess I'll just have to buy
*all* the books...

Derek

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From: bdienes@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Bruce Dienes)
Subject: Re: INCOMING!! (Was: Re: American Cultural Imperialism over Canada)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:59:20 GMT

a0v6282@rigel.tamu.edu (Art Velasquez) writes:


>     In article <1992Apr8.133719.28018@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, 
>irvine@en.ecn.purdue.edu (B-rent) writes...
>.
>	Um.  I have a problem with the premise on the article
>	of the 40-odd year old notion of 'American Imperialism.'
>	
>	If Canada feels that the US is dominant, they should
>	think again.  Canada _may_ feel intimidated (and
>	wrongly so) by the large US population.  I think that
>	there is a unique Canadian culture, but the USA is
>	not *that* different in culture (except for Quebec, 
>	which feels intimidated by *everyone* :) ) that anyone could 
>	claim domination by anything so inane as a comic strip!
>.
>	Come on people! Pull your heads out of the bucket! :)
>.
>	If you are culturally dominated by a *COMIC STRIP* it
>	says a lot more about _your_ culture than that of your
>	neighbors'!
>.

>     Uh-oh.
>     Thirty hours in existence, and there's already an international
>flamewar.  And I thought this only happened in rec.sport.soccer.
>     Take cover, all...   ;-)

 
 
B 
 
 
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>#                                    _The Tick_, issue 10              #

I can't believe that USers are still so uninformed about how their nation
dominates and controls other countries, with no regard for their culture,
social systems, or financial systems.  During the so-called "Free Trade"
debates, US officials were intimating that Canada had to dismantle its
medical care system, because it was an "unfair advantage", that it would
have to cut support of Canadian magazines and other media (which have to
survive the onslaught of US media from a strong power base across the 
border.  People on this news group are even complaining that foreign
cartoons refer to their own cultures, as if that were a terrible thing!
The attitude is that there is nothing to learn from other cultures, that
everyone would be better off under US rule or influence, etc...

When the whole cultural framework of your nation is being assaulted,
taking a stand for every part of it (including comic strips!) is essential,
before it is eroded away from the edges.  It is NOT true that Canadians
other than Quebecois are "just like USers".  Come up and live with us for
a while and get a flavour of our unique music, arts, social life, values,
sports, politics, (and Mutant Killer Snow Goons)

Yukon Ho!

A Canadian in exile (at grad school, but resisting acculturation)

Bruce.
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:02:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
[many message headers removed]
>>No its not.  It's the worst.  Nyah Nyah.
>>
>>Now we are having an argument!

>No, we're not.  It's just a contradiction (with apologies to Monty Python)

No it's not. By the way is this a 5-post argument, or a 30-post argument?
(with more apologies to MP)
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From: kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (The Loch Ness Dog)
Subject: Re: C & H number one!?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 10:27:57 GMT

kilcup@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Greg Kilcup) writes:

>Having been overwhelmed with 50 message this first day of
>the rec.arts.comics.strips, I can't believe that nobody
>even mentioned the obvious number one strip:

>            ==================
>            ==  Doonesbury  ==
>            ==================

Nope.  Sorry.  Doonesbury is certainly one of the better strips, but it
has fallen far from it's greatness of the 70's and 80's.  It seems it
never really made it all the way back from the hiatus.

>I mean, C+H, Foxtrot and Far Side are certainly all up there,
>but one must admit that Doonesbury out-classes them all.

I would rank C&H and Foxtrot above Doonesbury, and would have for the
last couple of years.  Doonesbury certainly still has it's moments, but
it is no longer the undisputed champ it once was.

>Shall I assume that since it is published on the editorial
>pages of many papers, many of you forgot about it?

Well, if it were in the editorial section of my paper, I would complain.

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From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Calvin & Hobbes, Cathy my favs
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:48:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T



Calvin and Hobbes is my favorite!  The only strip that makes me
laugh out loud, sometimes it's hysterically funny!  

Cathy is my 2nd favorite, mirror image of me sometimes, I swear
that my life is bugged and copied for the strip!  Especially
the mother-daughter stuff, and the recent closet stuff!  Too
uncanny!  Sometimes I think "I must be the only person in the
world like this or that does this" but often read the same weird stuff
in Cathy!  

Does anyone know how to fan letters to your favorite comic
authors?  (in my case, for Cathy and Calvin & Hobbes).

   Christine
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From: coop1w13@bnr.ca (Mike Hammond)
Subject: Re: ``Reality'' of Hobbes (was: "Reality" of C&H)
Reply-To: coop1w13@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fibre Systems Development
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 14:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.024306.19318@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr8.192859.10970@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jverdega@cae.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Verdegan) writes:
|> >>2) In a single strip, Hobbes was boosting Calvin up into a tree. 
|> >>
|> >>Is there other evidence, one way or the other, that I'm overlooking?
|> >
|> >How about the way Hobbes always attacks Calvin when he comes home, and Calvin
|> >walks in the house all beat up?  
|> 
|>   Gee, didn't any of you play with stuffed animals when you were kids?
|> I had a pack of them, and I can easily imagine the 6-year-old me
|> tossing one up into a treehouse and imagining that he had climbed up
|> himself.  Or stepping on one to reach something, and imagining that he
|> had given me a boost up.  Or thinking that he had hidden from me, when
|> I just couldn't find him.  And especially, rolling around wrestling
|> with my stuffed animals, and sometimes even losing!  Didn't you
|> guys/gals play pretend when you were little?
|> 
|>   If you are going to prove that Hobbes is real, you are going to have
|> to do better than this for evidence.  I want physical
|> impossibilities!! 
|> 
|> 
|> --Raymond Flournoy        
|> ======================================================================
|> flournoy@cs.stanford.edu         "For reasons I cannot explain
|> Computer Science Dept.            There's some part of me wants to see 
|> Stanford University, CA           Graceland"               -- P. Simon
|> 
|>   (As always, apply smilies where necessary.)

How about my previous post, where Calvin gets tied up so well? Surely you
don't really believe that Calvin (or anyone, for that matter) can tie
themselves up like that!
 
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|      Mike Hammond       | ``Yes, I'm...too wascally for Bugs Bunny,   |
|      Co-op Student      |   too wascally for Bugs Bunny,              |
|       BNR Ottawa        |   so wascally...it's almost funny!''        |
|    and University of    |                      ``I'm Too Wascally'',  |
|        Waterloo         |                       Right Said Fudd       |
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From: hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Favorite Dilbert
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:12:17 GMT
Organization: EDS Research

OK, a bunch of folks have responded that they both see and like Dilbert.
My favorite was just last week where Dilbert gets transferred from his
regular job into marketing, and when he gets there, they're having a toga
party.  One strip has the marketing guru telling Dilbert that a corporation
is like a human body.  "Think of Marketing as the brains, and management as
the body."  Dilbert asks, "What about engineering?"  Says the guru, "The
snot."

At least that's how marketing's perceived the world everywhere I've ever
worked.

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Mass sexism and racism in Beetle Bailey
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:52:56 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA

In article <1992Apr8.110259.15333@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Tony Wallis) writes:

>You don't like certain stereotypes (e.g. sexual and "racial"=national)
>and you express that dislike via the medium of the highly-loaded loaded
>words "racist" and "sexist".

How else would you characterize the use of stereotypes?

>Well, that's quite the fashionable thing
>to do these days, isn't it ?

It rather seems like the "fashionable thing" to do these days is to
dismiss any claims of prejudice as "fashionable."

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From: cbergstr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris N Bergstresser)
Subject: Re: C&H:  Merchandising (was Re: HOBBES (of C&H) Bumper Sticker)
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1992Apr10.071810.11703@athena.mit.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:47:37 GMT

     But Doonsbury HAS sold out!  Didn't you get your catalog?  Uncle Duke 
convinced everyone to put out a line of merchandise.  I've got a listing of 
tons of stuff you can order, from a Mr. Butts ashtray ("Thanks for 
Smoking!","Go Ahead, You're Immortal!") to a Club Scud Trench Lighter ("Just 
like the World-War I Era field equipment issued to the Iraqi troops!") to an 
Uncle Duke Passport Case ("Breeze through customs, for less than you'd 
expect!")

     It's a great catalog.  And it's all _real_.  A little pricey, but if you 
look inside the back cover, there's an almost apologetic explanation that all 
the proceeds go to charity.
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Keywords: far side gary larson
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:49:37 GMT

All right, all right, all right...

Off the top of my head, I'd have to go with three candidates:

--the now famous "CAT FUD"
--"When snakes trip"

--and "Hmm, maybe we should write that spot down."

Tim Lynch
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From: pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier)
Subject: Withdrawel (RE: HOBBES (of C&H) bumpersticker....)
Reply-To: pyr491@oz.plymouth.edu (Scott Bernier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:13:51 GMT


  I did not realize before posting that all C&H merchandise other than the
books was bootlegged.  
  Now that I know, I will stop my search for the bumper sticker I 
described in an earlier post....

Scott Bernier
    

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From: cs902060@ariel.yorku.ca (GEOFFREY E DIAS)
Subject: Mother Goose & Grimm 
Originator: cs902060@c12.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:37:19 GMT



	What about Mother Goose and Grimm? They've had some really good ones
over the years. I thought the strip about Grimm shorting out a Christmas tree
was a classic.

(For those of you who don't know: think of a plugged-in Christmas tree and
put together with what dogs do with trees.)
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From: chuck@melmac.Harris-ATD.com (Chuck Musciano)
Subject: More favorites
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:37:23 GMT
Reply-To: chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept, Harris Corp, Melbourne, FL

     Perhaps we need rec.arts.comics.strips.favorites :-)
     
     Favorite Far Sides:
     
     	In an apartment, a knife and spoon play cards while a fork plays
     	the piano.  The caption: "In the early days, living in the squalid
     	apartment, all three shared dreams of success.  In the end, though,
     	Bob the Spoon and Ernie the Fork wound up in an old silverware
     	drawer and only Mac went on to fame and fortune."
     	
     	Caption: "Like most veterinary students, Doreen breezes through
     	Chapter 9."  We see Doreen reading chapter 9, Equine Medicine,
     	and a table of diagnoses and treatments: broken leg, shoot; 
     	splayed hoof, shoot; infected eye, shoot; runny nose, shoot;
     	fever, shoot; ...
     	
     	A flower is reading a book and has turned the page to reveal
     	another, pressed, flower.  The caption: "As Harriet turned the
     	page, a scream escaped her lips.  There was Donald, his strange
     	disappearance no longer a mystery."
     
     Favorite Calvin & Hobbes:
     
     	Calvin and Hobbes are walking through the snow.
     	H: A new decade is coming up.
     	C: Yeah, big deal.  Hmph.  Where are the flying cars?  Where
     	   are the moon colonies?  Where are the personal robots and
     	   the zero gravity boots?  You call this a new decade?   You
     	   call this the future?  *Ha!*  Where are the rocket packs?
     	   Where are the disintegration rays?  Where are the floating
     	   cities?
     	H: Frankly, I'm not sure people have the brains to manage the
     	   technology they've got.
     	C: I mean, *look* at this!  We still have *weather*?!  Give
     	   me a break!
     	
     	Calvin and Hobbes have just survived an attack of the snow goons.
     	C: Well, Hobbes, I guess there's a moral to all this.
     	H: What's that?
     	C: "Snow goons are bad news."
     	H: *That* lesson certainly ought to be inapplicable elsewhere
     	   in life.
     	C: I like maxims that don't encourage behavior modification.
     	
     Favorite Herman:
        
        An old couple is chatting with an equally old man in running attire.
        Old runner: I run five miles every day.  How old do you think I am?
        Old woman:  Sixty-three?
        Old runner: Exactly right, sixty-three.
        Old woman:  You certainly don't look it.

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