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From:         dleland@NMSU.EDU
Subject:      Re: DCTV

>
> Queen of Swords,
>     Why do so many people jump to the conclusion that everything you say
> is pirate-motivated?  If you REREAD the man's question instead of jumping
> to conclusion, you'll notice he asked if there was an UPDATE to the
> software on FTP somewhere.  THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE FOR MANY COMPANIES:
> They make patches which update your current software.  YOU HAVE TO HAVE
> THE ORIGINAL FOR IT TO WORK.
>     Go ahead an tell all of the companies from which you bought software
> NOT to put their updates on ftp (eg. ProWrite's many updates) and see how
> happy you'll make them.  It makes it much easier for them.  Not to mention
> the users.  IT IS NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT
> PIRATING

If it isn't authorized, yes it IS IS IS IS IS (etc..)
Excuse me, but in the entire time I've seen ProWrite advertised, I've never
once seen it advertised "free upgrades." I know that the guys at Black Belt used
to do this, and SoftLogik had a BBS for fonts and such, though theNEVER
sent their program over the net. The truth is, there are pirate BBS areas that
have the latest versions of the Commodore operating system, of everything
 written
by SoftLogik, Gold Disk, etc. They are illegal. If things were the way you say,
then why is the senate passing a law making software piracy a felony? There are
a few very small developers that send their stuff to ftp sites, but I don't know
how they make money. I know of no major software publisher that has software
upgrades over the net.

>     YES, this IS a FLAME!  I'm sick and tired of people jumping to the

Oh well... ask me if I care.

> conclusion that every mention of such a thing is pirate-related, especially
> when it's obvious that the person has not taken the time to simply reread
> the letter in the first place.  People like that must be who decides what

No I don't, but I know a lot of people who do, and if you think I am
a strong advocate of this, you should talk to a professional programmer
some time.

> gets ported to the Amiga from the IBM...."nope, we can't do an Amiga port
> because every other message on amiga-lists mentions getting software updates
> via ftp....they must all of course be talking about pirating it"

Hogwash. There are two main reasons why pople don't port to the Amiga. One
because there isn't a big enough user base, and two because there is such
ramphant pirating. There have been at least five or six requests over this
discussion for ftp sites to get commercial software.
> THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE,

I do. Think yourself (and learn to spell).

Queen of Swords
dleland@nmsu.edu
From: sergio@IAR.UNICAMP.BR (Sergio Ricardo Olivier)
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Subject: hardware problem
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:00:20 GMT
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        My A500 dont run programs like The Kiling Game Show Intro or Twintris an
   d I change all chips whith another A500 (exept fat agnus and RAMs) and the pr
   oblem persist.What can I do ?
        Please, sorry my poor English.
                                                Sergio R. Olivier


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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:58:05 GMT
From:         Terry Jeffrey - SSG <terry@MARSTONS.PRIME.COM>
Subject: Re: Tetris

Theres a windows version of Tetris within the comp.unix.source areas, Have you
 tried Archie?
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From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Subject: Re: Silly Questions
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:36:31 GMT

In article 10527 Daniel Roman writes:

>A little bitter aren't we?  Sounds like you ought to do your blood
>pressure a favor and take a pressure pill!

Read the follow-ups, then take a pill yourself :)

>According to George Robbins (who designed the A1200), this is the truth.
>They use a shorter (height) drive in the A1200 to save space, and the HD
>drive is not (yet) available in that form factor.

Oh, I should have known. Of course C= has to save money, we all
know that space is money, right ?
(as a matter of fact 'it' is, REAL SOON NOW)


/Mattias


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Mattias Myrberg

m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:44:29 CST
From:         Peter Nordgren <pnordgre@HP.UWSUPER.EDU>
Subject:      A500/Pro Video Woes

I'm in the process of setting up a new A500 as a cable channel display
using Pro Video Gold. (Can't use CGII due to lack of chip memory).
The system has a Dataflyer Plus chassis/SCSI controller, a Seagate
HD which has given good service here for 3 years in our A2000,
a Supra 500K memory expansion, and a Dataflyer memory expansion card
with 2 megs on board.  It's connected to a Gen/One genlock, which,
like the Seagate, has been in use here for several years with no
problems.

The system will run Pro Video Gold for sometimes as long as 10
minutes before giving a software failure guru--0000004.00C0D458.
More often, however, it crashes after a minute or two.  The fault
is apparently not with Pro Video, as it also sometimes goes down
before the software begins loading.  The same crashes occur when
the Dataflyer memory expansion is removed, and the memory SIMMS
test good in another machine.

My theories so far include:

--problem with the Dataflyer controller.

--power supply problem. I've seen reference to needs for a beefier
  PS for the A500, but other statements indicating that this load
  should be within the capabilities of the built-in supply.  I note
  that Dataflyer makes a separate power supply which can be dropped
  into their chassis for the drive.

Any other ideas out there as to what's going on?

********************************************************************
Peter Nordgren                        pnordgre@hp.uwsuper.edu
Director, Media Resource Center
University of Wisconsin-Superior
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:55:33 PST
From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: JRComm and Handshake :)
              Dec 15, 92 9:39 am

>
> There is one thing I don't like about it, it does not have a true 80x25
> display mode.  You can get 80x25 (the 25th line being status) but the
> 24th line is cut in half and not usable.  Maybe it's just a poor choice
> of font?  Can the font be replaced?  That one feature is what has been
> keeping me from sending in the shareware fee and using it solely.
> That's it's major flaw.  I've tried TERM and though it has potential
> it's too cumbersome to move around in and change parameters with all
> those submenus and subscreens.

I have a fix for you in term with that last line being cut.  I talked to the
programmer who didnt have a clue what I was talking about when I experianced
the same problem, so I pondered on what would make his different then mine.
It's simple really - he works in pal. :)  so I just went to the overscan
tool in prefs and make my vertical lenth about 220 (I dont have a interlacer)
in size.  This did the trick.  Seems his status bar routine works differntly
then the rest of the program.  It works from the bottom up. :) No more
cut up last lines.

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From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: VCLI :)
              "CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU" at Dec 8, 92 11:19 am

>
> Does anyone use the program VCLI?
>
> Carlos
>

I dont - but I would like to know what makes it special and such.
Howabout a review? :)


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From:         "Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules..." <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: Is I-AMIGA dead?

> From:          eyup ozturk <C50777%TRMETU.BITNET@SEARN.SUNET.SE>

[stuff deleted]

> EYUP OZTURK


Please, could you use lower-case letters when sending your mails. It's a lot
easier to read :-)

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From: pcs$1703@altair.selu.edu
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Subject: Tetris
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:39:27 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University


 Where can I get a copy of Tetris for the Amiga ?

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:05:26 PST
From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      What is the internet address for this server? (arexx)
              International Product Support Group" at Dec 14, 92 1:35 pm

>To: LISTSERV@UCF1VM
>subscribe AREXX-L jonin@netcom.com

I tried this but my mail told me:
554 LISTSERV@UCF1VM... Service unavailable

Does anybody know the correct address to the server via internet?

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From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Want Arexx guide but no FTP? :)
              "PL921518%PACEVM.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Dec 4, 92 3:34 pm

I lost all requests for the arexx guide and viewtek. :(

Anybody who still requires these files - and does NOT have ftp abilities please
go ahead and re-send a email out to me. :)


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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:01:02 -0700
From:         "Macey B. Taylor" <MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      quandry & death blow

How do you like that subject line??  ;)

The "death blow" is that the Amiga has been declared not a viable game
machine.  By none other than Sierra On-Line, one of the biggest makers
of very popular games.  What will this do to SW production for people
who are not power users in one of the niches??  Without some "great"
games to bolster the market, I'm a bit worried.

I learned this today while trying to order a game for a Christmas present
for my oldest grandson (we are an Amiga family; four machines among the
group).  Nobody yet has Red Baron in stock, and Amigaman told me that
they would not be able to get it because Sierra had just dropped the
Amiga.  Creative Computers is out of stock, but *claims* that it will
be back in stock in a couple of days.

Is there anybody out there who is tired of shooting up airplanes who
would like to sell me his used game if I can't find a new one for Jesse?

Macey Taylor  maceytay@ccit.arizona.edu
2634 East Malvern St., Tucson, AZ 85716  (602) 326-7265 [voice];
(602) 795-4209 [fax]
From: pcs$1703@altair.selu.edu
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Subject: FTP Sites ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:15:14 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

Where can I get an FTP list of Amiga sites where I can download files?

	Thanks
From: I7092701@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Peter M. Krummrich)
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Subject: Workbench, V2.1
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:08:41 GMT
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Hello netriders,

I tried to purchase the Workbench 2.1 upgrade. My local dealer told me,
that this upgrade will not be available before early 1993. So much for
Germany. How about the US, GB, France etc.? Does anybody have information,
if the upgrade to Workbench version 2.1 is already available (i.e. in
stores or by mail order) in any of these countries?

Please send your answears directly to

i7092701@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (bitnet)
        ^
        L this is hopefully an AT character (sometimes our machine has
          problems with this one).

I'll compile all the information I get and send an overview to the list.

Thanks in advance

Peter
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From:         Jaroslav Mechacek <jara@LION.ICS.MUNI.CS>
Subject:      Falcon 3
              [Postm

I was told that Falcon 3 was released.
Is it true ????
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From:         Terry Jeffery International Product Support Group
              <TGJ@UKHOUO.PRIME.COM>
Subject:      Re: A500 and interference

Daniel Roman <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM> says:-


> As with the comment about cutting corners with a plastic case, that's
> complete nonsense.  A properly designed circuit board does not require
> a metal enclosure so if a manufacturer does a good job with the design
> of let's say a motherboard, there is no reason it could not be
> installed in a plastic case, which would indicate a superior quality
> product to one that required a metal case.

Daniel, I hope you're not *really* saying that any PCB put into a metal case
is a bad design. From what I remember of these things, shielding depends a
lot on the frequencies being handled.

WRT RFI, one of the main culprits is the actual cables being used. The path of
a signal within a PCB is not very long when you compare that to the length of
cable transferring it around the computer/peripherals.

If the originator is really having problems with RFI I would have a look at
broken earth screens (if they even exist) on some of your peripheral cables.

I don't remember hearing what is happening to the computer/TV when this occurs.

I bet it's either disk transfer of screen updates

============================================================================
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               The score? I don't even know what game we're playing
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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1992 15:22:07 ADT
From:         Corey Partridge <PARTRCT@ACAD1.UNBSJ.CA>
Subject:      Fat Agnus -> A500

 Not too long ago my computer started giving me a green screen when I
turned it on and the power light blinked 11 times then the screen
turned grey and the cycle repeated. I could usually get it to work
now and then though.
 Now instead of being green its grey and at the 11th blink it gives a
lot of garbage and static and the cycle continues. I can't get
anything out of it now.
 Is it my Fat Agnus chip or everything else? Thanx.

 Corey Partridge
 PARTRCT@ACAD1.UnbSJ.CA
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:13:32 GMT
From:         Terry Jeffrey - SSG <terry@MARSTONS.PRIME.COM>

Subject: Re: Commodore64
Cc:

The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair."
 LANDAS88%SNYPOTVA.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu Said,

>Check out Questronix's $25 C=64 emulator on the Amiga.  I'm pretty sure it has
>a feature like this.  It's inexpensive and nearly 100% compatible.  It is
>phenominal from what I have seen and read, much unlike it's other older
>counterparts which did not really emulate a C=64.


I'm afraid that even an emulator like this can't read the floppy disks unless
 you have
the hardware. If the C64 is still available, you might try hardwiring it to your
 Amiga
and use the FAST program within the Startup File. If not you'll have to find a
 H/W hack to
connect a 1541 drive to the Amiga, that, I don't think is that easy (there's a
 challenge).

BTW

The old PETS can read 1541 disks and, depending on the DOS being used,  (4.0
 upwards if I remember) can
also write to the disk. You may find a link that way. I don't think you will
 find it easy to be able to
read these disks directly either on an Amiga or IBM due to the way the disks are
 formatted (I'm sure
someone will give the breakdown on formats and data patterns if you're
 interested)

Regards

Terry
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
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Subject: New Fish Disks on ux1
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:57:54 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi

I am posting this for those of you who are Fresh Fish disk followers.
Edited for clairty and to reduce redundancy.

===============  forwarded posting below this line ==========

             from: Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Latest FISH DISKS are on ux1!
Summary: Come and get em
Keywords: fish disks
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:05:44 GMT

If you were on the Fishdisks mailing list, you'd already know the
that the latest fishdisks were uploaded to ux1.
Send mail to schwager@cs.uiuc.edu to get put onto the list.
Fish disk listings are not posted here, to save net bandwidth.  If you
need the listings, keep your eyes peeled on comp.sys.amiga.announce.  Fred
Fish posts them there.  Also, all Contents files are always available on
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59) in amiga/fishdoc/f0->f7, as well as most
of the other Fish disk sites.

-Mike
Mike Schwager                 | Machine: Amiga 500, 3 MB RAM/30 HD
Address: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu | Bike: '83 Kawasaki KZ750 LTD      //
Band: Poi Dog Pondering       | Hero: Robert Bly              \\ //
DoD: #0301                                                     \X/Amiga

Fish Archive Spots: (updated 9/29/92)
128.174.5.59    ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (all disks)
     Maintained by Mike Schwager (schwager@cs.uiuc.edu)

128.255.19.233 grind.isca.uiowa.edu  (all disks)
     Maintained by Michael T. Pins (amigapd@isca.uiowa.edu)

128.171.44.7 ftp.hawaii.edu (mirror of ux1: disks 001-current)
	Maintained by amiga@ftp.hawaii.edu (Baron) 
	The disks on ux1 say: "...I want to be a Fish Disk in Hawaii!" :-)

16.1.0.2 gatekeeper.dec.com has FF #1-600 or so in /pub/micro/amiga/fish
     Maintained by vixie@pa.dec.com   ... does not appear to be current

128.252.135.4 wuarchive.wustl.edu  has the newest in systems/amiga/fish/fish
     (Woah!  Now lots of disks at one of America's premier ftp sites!)

IN AUSTRALIA: 139.130.4.6     archie.au
     a mirror of wuarchive.wustl.edu?  Maintained by ???

IN EUROPE:
128.214.6.100 ftp.funet.fi  carries all Fish disks in /pub/amiga/fish.
     Maintained by Pertti Lehtinen <pl@ftp.funet.fi> and
                   Kimmo Ketolainen <Kimmo.Ketolainen@nic.funet.fi>

137.226.112.172 ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
     /pub/amiga/fish/f?         Disks 600+
     /pub/amiga/fish/olddisks   Disks 1-600 (mounted from CDROM)
     Maintained by Stefan Becker
     <stefanb@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

     ====== end of forwarded post =============

    JimP.

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
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                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re:      Re: Amiga Startup - repost
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:36:46 GMT

In article <I-AMIGA%92121516233810@RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU> IQM109@URIACC.URI.EDU writes:
>please tell me some popular ftp sites where i can get some cool games and some
>killer gifs. I have an amiga and i also want to know how to get into ftp sites
>without using just anonymous s but the password style also. Please help need to
> know ftp sites and passwords.

  No actual password is required.

   login: anonymous
   password: yourname@location

     Thats it. The Amiga Intro just posted tell you all about this. If you
subscribbed too late to get it, just ask and Terry or I will send you
a copy. { I now have a copy in this account. Thanks Terry for posting.
Now if we can just get them to read it .... :-) 
   JimP.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:56:25 -0700
From:         "Macey B. Taylor" <MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fat Agnus -> A500

When I borrowed a 500 from the Commodore-UK Education Manager in England
some time ago, I had the green-screen problem, followed by no Amiga.
He told me to lift the Amiga about 5 inches above the desk and drop it,
to reseat the Agnus chip.  It worked!

There is a chart somewhere that tells you what color means what when
things don't do right.

Macey Taylor  maceytay@ccit.arizona.edu
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:33:00 EDT
From:         DELANEYD@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: A1200

>      * What are your opinions on the PanaSync monitor, can is sync down to
>        composite display?

        It's a great monitor, especially considering the price.  The 1381i
scans from 30Khz to 37KHz continuous.  Therefore it does NOT do composite.  I
have a 3000 and have found it to be no loss personally.  Everything is just
scan doubled through the deinterlacer.  The only mode that theortically won;t
work is the superhires as it scans at 15.75.  It does dislay with the deinterlac
er on but with the effect of skipping a few pixels.  It is useable but not
beautiful.  The other 'problem' with the monitor is that, like many 3rd party
monitors, the productivity mode doesn't work very well-- too dark.  Many
different monitors have problems doing it though occasional their are
exceptions.  It is very clear and crisp, especially considering the price.
All controls are up front and accessible. Picture size can be adjusted to
virually no black border vertically and a little over 1/4" on each side
horizontally.  Anyway, it you don't need composite, I would highly recommend
it as a satisfied user.  BTW, byte and computer shopper raved about it for
its value/price in a review of monitors a little over a year ago.

        ->dave
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