HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jpatters@willamette.edu (Jane Patterson)
Subject: Harems and so on and so forth
Summary: gender-specific ? I don't think so...
Keywords: men women same thing
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:13:29 GMT

To all of you men exclaiming over how much we women only like men that
are "Off the Market" ... it's really funny how men seem to do the exact
same thing ... I don't recall ever having the phone ring with more than
one offer to go out then when I had finally made the big commitment with
my first boyfriend - maybe all the "off the market" people should create
a database and sell it to the "on the market" people ...

 

And isn't funny how that the person you lusted after all through high
school never deigns to notice you until you have to say [in that
incredibly geeky surprised tone that makes it sounds like you're lying]
"Um, sorry, but I have a boyfriend"?

Ain't life a stinker.


-- 
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           ==- Art History/Computer Science - Metanoian -==
     ObQuote: I want to be an active verb! - Hypatia in "Misalliance"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: How depressing!
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:36:42 GMT

In <1993Jan24.203434.19186@leland.Stanford.EDU> tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) writes:

>In article <szikopou.727895711@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:
>>In <106337@netnews.upenn.edu> dchong@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Dennis Chong) writes:
>>
>>>Gee, this newsgroups is depressing, innit?  Since I subscribed, I've
>>>found discussions on how much better it is to be dead and how God doesn't
>>>exist.  
>>
>>>But for some reason I find it curiously inviting.  :-)
>>
>>>dc
>>
>>
>>I'm glad that your life is proceeding more smoothly than those on
>>alt.angst who are using the board to express their ANGST
>>S Zikopoulos
>>

>I get the feeling that alt.angst is a sort of frat or something.  If you don't
>properly express your angst--even in your first posting--or if you express it
>but have inappropriate angst, then you just don't belong, so fuck off.  quite
>the little social club you guys got going here...i'm proud o' y'all...i just
>wish i fet more accepted...sniff...i need this kind of positive, wholesome
>interaction in my life...sniff...but my angst just isn't cool enough...sniff.

I don't understand how that response could be triggered by that.  My
statement was genuine.

>WAKE UP--everyone fucking has angst...its what life is about...and the ones
>who manage to put it behind them are the ones who succeed...and the ones who
>wallow in it...well. discussing is one thing, but some of you make an identity

People are at different points in their lives.  If you have no need of
talking about yours--great!  Being condescending and responding with
flames is certainly no way to get positive responses from a board.


>of it..and are even proud of it!  some of you like being angstful...and get
>defensive if the SACRED ANGST is not view properly.  


alt.angst isn't a secret society.  I felt that you were making jokes
at the expense of other people's pain and I find no humour in that.  I
don't think any of the "sincere" posters on this board appreciated it
either.

If you want aggressive discourse...start a board called alt.insults or
something.

Yours Truly,
Steven Zikopoulos
From: paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:10:59 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan22.173548.6849@news.duc.auburn.edu> horntho@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>
>> I don't know that becoming an eggplant is an option for me.  I might not be
>> up to that.
>
>Then how about either finding some angst or going away?
>

No, it's cool.  I found some angst.  It was really all around me.  Talking to
you guys helped me find it.

-Hermes
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From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com (Thad Engeling)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: being sick
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:28:21 GMT
Organization: National Instruments
NNTP-Posting-Host: lavaca.natinst.com

In article <86590@ut-emx.uucp>, llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
> 
> 
> okay, so i somehow managed to survive 29 years without ever getting
> the flu before. does that mean that when i finally do succumb, i have
> to have it for the rest of my life?
> 
> the worst part is feeling stupid and like i have to do things because
> i've been sick since sunday and five days is rather a long time to be
> unwell. and besides, the fever finally broke (again) this morning, so
> i'm not really sick anymore.

I think everyone in Austin has had that flu. At least just
about everyone I know. Including myself. I still have it right now.
It has stuck with me three weeks so far, not bad enough to keep
me from work, but enough to keep me from going out at night.
Every time I think it has gone away, it just comes back again
a few days later. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you may
be stuck with it for a while.
Then again...
_Thad
From: 96rpg@williams.edu (the Straw Dogs)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: anyone need a harem?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:44:24 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbird.cc.williams.edu
Summary: bloody typical...

In article <1993Jan22.052339.4058@ncsu.edu> jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
>
>I'm not sure what's going on, but those of you who wish to meet
>young, attractive, available women should start following me 
>around, because apparently I'm giving off some sort of gamma
>radiation or pheromones or something that's magnetic to 'em.
>
>After spending about a year or so when the ONLY person even VAGUELY
>interested in me was a close friend who's dated everyone BUT me
>(by mutual choice), within the past month I've:
>
>(a) begun a new relationship (sadly, she's living in another state right now.)
>Of course, everything above after (a) took place AFTER said relationship
>began, and I hence went Off The Market, though I'm still at a loss to explain
>the week and a half where THAT occured.
>

hell, man... i've got two answers, the second of which is infinitely
more likely...

one: women are in as much of a competetive bind as men. if you're
dating someone, then you must be good to date. you get thousands of
propositions that would KILL your love life to accept, nine out of
ten...

two: god is laughing his little athiestic butt off.

>I don't know what's being pumped into the water supply around here, but 
>I do want the Spring Catalog put out by whoever's doing it.  There may be some
>related products I'd be interested in.

send me a copy too when you find it!


----
straw dog

"or no love at all for so long you feel that something's wrong with
you in every way."   ---lynda barry
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: stuff
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:06:47 GMT

paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) asks:


>>is stinking"...more or less. Don't think so damn much, don't fear so
>>damn much.
>>
>>iz that right, paleblue?
>
>I guess.  That's zen stuff, right?


Nope, not really, just common sense. I imagine I could rustle up a
koan on the subject if I tried but I have to stop posting and get to
work.
From: paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: hermes, please pick up the white clue phone...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:57:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: byron.u.washington.edu

In article <86603@ut-emx.uucp> llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>on the off chance that the hermes/paleblue creature is for real and
>not just a random net idiot:

What's the difference?

[eloquent summary of alt.angst deleted.]
>
>but most of the people who hang
>out here take the group seriously and respect the intent behind the
>posts (even if they flame the posters).

Me, too!  I respect everybody!  I respect angst!
>
>so along comes someone who's either an airhead or a clever imitation
>of one, giggling and chirping and spreading little sunshine smiles
>around everywhere, with an "ain't i cute?" attitude (complete with
>idiotic smileys). it's *damned* annoying -- i mean, if someone tells
>you his dog just got smooshed by a car, are you going to grab his
>hands and say "oh, goodie! let's go skip through the park and pick
>wildflowers! :)" that's verging on grounds for justifiable homicide.
>at the very least, it indicates a breathtaking lack of sensitivity. to
>persist in this behavior after being *told* it's annoying... sheesh.

okay.  No more smileys!
>
>so either you're a jerk who thinks you're being cute, or you're an
>insensitive clod, or you're terminally clueless. care to enlighten us?

Really now, if I were any of those things I wouldn't know I was or I wouldn't
admit it.  I really am sorry about the smileys.  I thought smiles were ok
with angst.  I mean, I see smiles on people all the time and inside I know
they're alone and everything inside them that's worth anything is leaking
out, oozing through smiles and winks and handshakes and even meaningless
kisses.  In fact, a smile can be just about the most angsty thing I can 
think of.  But I don't want you to be sad.  I want you to be happy.  So no
more smileys on angst!  ever!
>
>--
>sine | deb
>or better yet, don't enlighten us. about anything. ever.
:(  I'm really sorry I put you in this mood.

-Hermes
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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: logic confounding people unclear on the concept
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:12:52 GMT

paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) continues ad nauseum:


>Shoot no!  junk is just an expression!  Sorry for jumping in, but now I'm in
>and like I have some idea of what's going on.  Like no smileys!

"valley" syndrome? O ma gawd, someone gag here with a keyboard.

>too late!  I'm totally entangled in posts now, but I think that's cool.

Cool for you perhaps? What is entanglement, paleblue?

>>Hermes, you wouldn't happen to be blonde, would you? (grandiose
>>apologies to all blondes for such a remark but the stereotype fit)
>
>nope.

sorry, a natural mistake.

>I got the feeling the newsgroup can handle me just fine.  Questions are for
>more than just answering, mister.

Yeah, they can be used to instigate problems, that is true. How nice.

Ah well, the world is full of this sort of thing, perhaps the best
course of action is no action at all. Time to ignore.

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: lputnam@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lee P Putnam)
Subject: Many Nights Away from Here
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:14:37 GMT


Well, here I am again. About two years ago I read alt.angst all the time, 
flipping through the posts and even posting every so often. I started to
wonder though if reading this newsgroup was affecting my life. So one
day, roughly 24 months ago, I unsubscribed. A few months later I went on
a trip to the west and met someone with whom I had only communicated by
writing before. And then some months after that I started to get to know
a person here that I was always interested in. Life got better for me. I
was in bliss for many many months. I was always weary of this new found
"happiness" because I had been mocked many times in the past. (Not mocked
by people, but rather just "nature.") (I hope this doesn't sound _too_
stupid.) And my assumptions were correct as the bottom fell out and I was
dropped into a mass of confusion. I won't go into the whole story now - I'll
save that for a future posting. But I thought I would come back to this
newsgroups and poke around and see what I can find. About 1.5 weeks ago
I even called in to and appears on that radio show called Talknet. Spoke
briefly with that Mera (sp?) person. Her daughter, btw, dates a guy in 
dinosaur jr. Anyway...although certain people no longer seem to be active in
this group, there appears to be a bunch o' interesting people. So I guess
I will read the postings here for the next months or so at least and perhaps
it will keep me from flipping out too much. And so here I am, just in 
time for valentine's day.....


 -L.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Sunday night
Keywords: cryptic crapola
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:55:37 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1jibstINNs3g@uwm.edu> jethro@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Mary Ellen Paul) writes:
>My big mistake was in giving him the car keys.
>If I would have driven to the airport, I would have had to
>concentrate on driving, and wouldn't have been able to cry.

No, you CAN drive and cry at the same time.
It's not easy and it's not safe, but it can be done.
This is a bit more a.s.h.ish than a.a.ish, shall we go visit?



            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: 96cat@williams.edu (Hobbes)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angstlet
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:35:15 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbird.cc.williams.edu

In article <1993Jan25.144224.28087@spectrum.xerox.com> eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com writes:

>liked me. Anyway, one day, it seemed, she decided not to talk to me,
>ever again. No explanation, no nothing. I called, even sent a letter, all
>to no avail. Now, I can handle a "no", or an "I don't think we should
>see each other," and yes, even an LJBF, but NOT a situation with NO
>FEEDBACK. This ego wound festered for weeks, having know way of knowing
[ .... ]
>again. Well, it's just nature screwing with me, again (deja vu, anyone?).

This has happened to me several times, and every goddamn time it does
I just turn in on myself and the angst festers into a horrendous sore
and gives me indigestion and shaking hands and the
wander-the-streets-late-at-night syndrome characteristic of mid- to
late-adolescent males.

------
PS:
to the alt.angst police: is this proper angst, properly expressed, and
clear and on its face a suitable post to the group?


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: The Bitches
Organization: OFSA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:46:11 GMT

jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu babbles:

>Fucking Bitches /// all we want to do is fuck them. Slip in the
>old salami. Not exactly torture. 

From you it might be.

>But NO - They have schemes to force us into a boring monogamous
>'relationship'. I suppose it fits their breeding program - but
>to hell with it ! Let them enjoy sex for what it is - and no
>more. Their evil schemes must be rebutted. Lay pipe and dump
>the bitches. It's the only way to teach them. 


Major Peeve: Clueless boys that are unable to form emotional
relationships and sublimate their incompleteness by assuming a
chauvinistic role.

Steve
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From: HZS@psuvm.psu.edu (Therion)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: At the risk of being a shit again...
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:35:36 GMT
 <DUKE.93Jan21125307@portal.paperboy.osf.org>
Organization: Penn State University

Duke peeks out and whispers:

>JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>   [ a lot of stuff about an ongoing high school romance]
>
>I really think this post should be archived somewhere.  It's a
>Platonic Ideal of it's kind.  It's got everything--a teenie-booper
>tone, a Lets-Just-Be-Friends crisis, names taken from 90210.  And
>it's even from psu.edu
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't blame me, man, I just work here.

How would *you* like to be stuck in the middle of fucking nowhere Pennsylvania
with 40,000 kens and barbies?

Therion
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.geek
From: osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska)
Subject: STUPID BACKUP!@!@!@!@
X-Advertisement: Use Emacs
Organization: Springfield Elementary School
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:01:28 GMT
Distribution: alt
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


HOW MUCH !@#!@#ING LONGER IS THIS STUPID BACKUP GOING TO TAKE???? I'M
ABOUT TO COLLAPSE!@!@!@!@!@

--
...so the whole story is completely untrue... big hoax! ha ha ha....

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: moscoso@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Innocuous Punch)
Subject: Re: Horribly formed haiku and inquiry
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:39:09 GMT

w0318@desire.wright.edu writes:

>I'm confused
[...]
>What is alt.angst?
>Why are you all aengstig?
>Is it because life is a confusing mess of disjoint and hellish events?

>Answer me if you'd like....
     I wasn't immediately planning a followup, being that many will stray
along this same path, but a thought crossed my synapse:

Angst is many things to many different people.  In many many forms (yawn so far)

I think angst, as seen by a particular population out here, mas much to do with
an obsession with the flesh, and excretory functions in general.  The conflict
arises from observable clashes between 1) where we stand on the path to sexual/
pseudo-sexual satisfaction, and 2) where we expect to be.

Now then, I'm not a Freudian imp suggesting that the guy who lost his job and
wife and friends is actually experiencing SEXUAL frustrations.  It's deeper
than that.  But in any case, we can see that some of the younger crowd here
focus on what mr. duke (for example) might call 'teenie-bopperism'.  Then,
maybe the more "serious" problems and angst of the older crowd may be somehow
tied to more complex patterns of sexual frustration.  Maybe.

Sublimation?  Who knows.  For now, I'm too busy to think about it.  Don't
assume that I stand by my accusations.  I'm not into that.

--
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	DISCLAIMER:  I will not represent CCSO's opinion, nor chew gum...
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From: szikopou@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: Re: I Wish There Was a God
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:55:21 GMT

In <C19EKD.9Cv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:

>tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) wishes:

>>If there were a God, then he would just destroy everything now and get it over
>>with instead of dragging out this long and cruel joke--surely the joke would
>>have gotten old by now and God can only get so much entertainment value by

What if there is no cosmic parental figure as in the Jud.-Christ.
tradition.
What if we're god? You, me, your neighbour, the carbon in the
microchips of our computers....?
A tad pantheistic but.....just wanted to provoke some further thought.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: stuff
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:55:59 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1jmqf0INNoq5@shelley.u.washington.edu> paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) writes:

>sls is a really smart guy with the posts I read and all, but he doesn't 
>have the whole picture here.  The hole is actually from DogBowl's fear
>of death.  He thinks he can somehow cheat death by falling in love.  Well,

Fear of death my ass.  He's been screwed over by his family and exSO and it 
hurts is all.  Just coz you read some psych texts doesn't mean everybody is 
gonna fit the syndromes you've read about.

>he doesn't think it think it, but he thinks it so he can't hear what he's
>thinking, like that Freud stuff.  Anyway, the hole's just gonna get wider

Freud was an almost total bozo.  Half his theories were developed to explain 
why women claimed to have been abused when obviously that just doesn't 
happen, except nowadays we know it does.


            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: How depressing!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:34:34 GMT

In article <szikopou.727895711@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:
>In <106337@netnews.upenn.edu> dchong@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Dennis Chong) writes:
>
>>Gee, this newsgroups is depressing, innit?  Since I subscribed, I've
>>found discussions on how much better it is to be dead and how God doesn't
>>exist.  
>
>>But for some reason I find it curiously inviting.  :-)
>
>>dc
>
>
>I'm glad that your life is proceeding more smoothly than those on
>alt.angst who are using the board to express their ANGST
>S Zikopoulos
>

I get the feeling that alt.angst is a sort of frat or something.  If you don't
properly express your angst--even in your first posting--or if you express it
but have inappropriate angst, then you just don't belong, so fuck off.  quite
the little social club you guys got going here...i'm proud o' y'all...i just
wish i fet more accepted...sniff...i need this kind of positive, wholesome
interaction in my life...sniff...but my angst just isn't cool enough...sniff.

WAKE UP--everyone fucking has angst...its what life is about...and the ones
who manage to put it behind them are the ones who succeed...and the ones who
wallow in it...well. discussing is one thing, but some of you make an identity
of it..and are even proud of it!  some of you like being angstful...and get
defensive if the SACRED ANGST is not view properly.  

whatever.


-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
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Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.slack,co.general
From: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Subject: Re: Anywhere out of the world
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 04:27:14 GMT

despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson) writes:

>and I am sent to Denver, Colorado.  I have not been there since childhood,
>know nothing about the city, have no friends there.  I would like suggestions
>on how an independent person should go about the move.  I will probably pack
>my things into a truck, drive there (2-3 days) and die.  Any information
>that will make my anxiety and depression less vague?  Strategies for the 
>working class average lunatic on the move are more than welcome.

I moved to Denver last year.  I traded a 600MB hard drive for a 1977 Chevy
Truck.  I put all my stuff in it that would fit and was important.  I sold
the rest.  I live here still.  I had not been here since I was 12.

I am not dead yet.  (I think.)

>Regards,
>and good riddance to southern califnordia.
>-- 
>Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
>despair@netcom.com
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