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From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harleys are OUT, Porches are IN!
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:16:22 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
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steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
: In article <1992Aug19.133525.13881@ncar.ucar.edu>
: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan,8292,SCD) writes:
: >[...] And I don't play
: >golf. I have a hard time taking any sport seriously in which there isn't
: >at least some risk of injury associated with it. Besides, you have to
: >wear funny pants.
: 
: Well, I play "golf", but play the DoD version.
: 
: 1. Get on your bike.
: 2. Go look for old men wearing funny pants and chasing golf balls.
: 3. Do to the old men what you would do to the little girls chasing tennis
:    balls.  Remeber to keep your head out of the gutter!
: 4. Extra points are obtained if the golf ball is day-glo.
: 5. Bash plates with gaffing-hooks are not a prerequisite, but additional
:    points can be obtained with multiple "strikes".
: 
: Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
: KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu       "Ineluctably Prolix" - John Norman Sims, Jr.
: Come an' get it!  Served up nice an' *hot*!!  Get yer FREEEEE *logorhea*!!!

My version of golf involves my rather load Fiamms. I ride past
3 golf courses during my commute.

The first one is divided by the road. On the South side is a green
and the other side, a Tee. I love it when somebody is bent over concentrating
and I go roaring by in 2nd blasting the Fiamms. 


Yeee HA!


Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
From: tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Insurance
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:34:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Can anyone comment on insurance, and how much I should be paying?
Facts: experienced rider, well over 25, no one else in household rides
the bike (1987 BMW R80), AMA member, live in CA, DoD #4096 (but somehow I
suspect that doesn't matter :-).

I'm now being quoted $532/year comprehensive, or $364/year liability
only.  This seems too high.

Any recommendations?

--Tim (tssmith@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Blue Jeans Bad; Leather Jeans Good
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:06:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.152528.5879@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.201406.23482@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>>|>  
>>>|> Thats what the doc said. So I immediately discounted it.
>>>|> Now that I've heard it from a fellow DoD'r I will accept it as biblical.
>>>|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Now I've got this bridge I think you might be interested in.......
>>>
>>Nah, this one's mine--all mine.
>>
>>Say son, I have this great used car I'd like to talk to you about....
>>                                                                      :-)
>>
>
> Great, just let me take it around the block and then I'll pay ya.
>Later.

No Sweat.  Just leave your ZX-10 by the curb and the keys in my tender care.

Have a nice day.  :-)
 
Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Cleaning O ring chains
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:22:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.150925@is.morgan.com> spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:
>They don't make beer - they make ale!
>
Ale is beer.  Lager is beer.  Any fermented beverage made from a sugar 
solution extracted from malted barley is beer.  Ale just happens to be
a cloudy, estery, wonderful TYPE of beer. :-)


>
>Stef
>
>	     DoD#0190		              spgo@is.morgan.com
>	'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mariage...what happens???
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:03:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1503
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

> In article <1574@shaman.wv.tek.com> robd@orca.wv.tek.com writes:
>> Some, like me, lose all sense of self and become emasculated zombies. 


leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
> Ahyup.  Testimonial, friends, getting a bike helped dissolve my marriage. 


That's strange. My wife (Carol "I've always wanted a BMW") seems fairly normal,
to _me_, anyway, and I (Martin "No Harley Yet") have six motorcycles so far,
two of which were bought dead, and the only thing that ever bothered her was
the Honda Dream was dropped off before she'd rearranged the garage for it.

She parks her truck and car outside so the motorcycles can park inside,
she doesn't drink but never objects to ferrying drunk motorcyclists around,
and she buys me my beer in kegs. And she's _proud_ of me buying the Ducati.


But I still don't have a Harley- and she's mentioned learning to ride, like
she thinks she's going to borrow MY MOTORCYCLES. Time to call the lawyers?



          Martin Golding             | Three birds, three cats, two BMW's,
DoD #236   BMWMOA #55952    ME #1    | two Yamahas, one Ducati, one wife.
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin       | (For the best, you don't need spares)
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:38:10 GMT
Reply-To: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <1992Aug19.154201.20407@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.231130.21489@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.com writes:
>>	What's left?
>
>"Ku  lu kuk kuk kuluk kuk ku!  Good day, eh?  I'm Bob McKenzie, and this is
> my brother Doug.  Welcome to the Great White North, you hosers!"

	Aaww, take off!  Anyway, our topic for today is beer.  We're going to
investigate if you take my brother's pinky and put it in warm beer, he'll have
to go, eh?
.
-- 
Chris BeHanna		DoD# 114      1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	              (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jyri@faline..bellcore.com (Jyri Virkki)
Subject: Re: Cager penile size (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Reply-To: jyri@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:10:07 GMT

>Why is it that people get so pissed off when you pass them. I was going to 
>the movies 'bout a month ago in modrerate traffic on a two lane each way
>road (Monticello, for you Cleve-burgers) when a light turns red about three
>cars in front of me. I split the lanes and got up front where I could get
>away pretty quickly (being of the impression that although assoles in front
>of you are better than assholes behind it really sucks to be surrounded by
>assholes) to be away from the cars. Light turns green, I take off, no problem,
>except some guy in a old sedan gunning it for all it's worth just so I couldn't
>pass him. A little right hand did the trick and I was outta' there. Didn't
>stop him from flipping me off as he passed me (eventually).

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the group with the highest
rate of trying to do this kind of thing are the minivan drivers? I mean,
what is it with these people? They drive what is probably the most 
pathetic excuse for a motor vehicle, and 11 out of 13 of them will do
the utmost to try to outaccelerate me, in the bike, off lights. It's
hilarious to see them smash that pedal down and to hear the engine scream
trying to attain redline (3K or whatever it might be :-)

Must be some kind of mental disease; it makes you go out and buy a minivan,
then race motorcycles with it...

Jyri

Jyri J. Virkki - Bellcore, Morristown, NJ - jyri@thumper.bellcore.com - DoD#561
(201) 829-4213 - jyri@rummat3.upr.clu.edu - jyri@rmece47.upr.clu.edu
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Date: 17 Aug 1992 08:52:44 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug17.054710.2031@sequent.com> dickwin@sequent.com (Dick Winningstad) writes:
>The liberals of this country will work very hard to be your mom and
>eliminate anything that is different and could be of danger to you.

I think the term you're looking for is "Safety Nazi," not liberal.

I know you're just *DYING* to hear my point of view...

The cryto-fascist conservatives of this country work very hard to strip
away legal recognition of what individual rights we have remaining
and to make you hate people that are different from yourself.

Shall we have a dose of reality, here?  I'm not allowed to get married,
I can't serve in a military, in most places in the country I can get
fired or refused housing indiscriminately, and most states won't allow
me to adopt children.  Why?  I'm queer.

I'm a liberal, I believe in personal freedom.  I support free speech,
free association, and private ownership of weapons.  I hate helmet
laws, seat belt laws and most government intrusion into my life.

Before you adon't the highground of conservatives being the last
bastion of freedom, why don't you consider the war on drugs, abortion,
government endorsment of protestantism, and the fact that they don't
even consider me a full human.  Where is *MY* freedom to serve in
the military or to raise children?  Bah.

And, lest we forget about terminology, you HAVE rights.  They are
immutable.  The government cannot take them away.  As to their
recognition, that is another matter.

I'm leaping down your throat because you hit one of my more sensitive
buttons.  The "liberal == bad" analogy has been forced down the throat
of USA citizens for the past 12 years and I'm really fucking sick of it.
Whatever happened to "personal freedom == good"?

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (rja@sun.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet forehead welts & itching
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:26:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <1992Aug19.230018.20609@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.202017.28174@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>The answer is simple:  Buy a helmet that fits properly in the first place.
>>Aside from getting my hair mussed up, I've never had any marks from
>>the helmet.
>
>Grrr.  Simple for you-a maybe, monkey-boy.  Just because your head
>fits neatly into the designer's norm, you can make this smug little
>statement.  However, *some of us* have larger cranial capacity (not
>saying it's USED, necessarily), and buy the largest helmet we can
>find, and it STILL IS TOO TIGHT FROM FRONT TO BACK.
>
>Believe me, I tried on about a thousand helmets.  The one that didn't
>cause extreme pain, I bought.  Now I just have to solve this little
>forehead problem.

    I've been thinking of trying to take a dremel tool to the helmet
    stuffing, but I figure I'll destory the cloth covering when I
    try to get it off.
>
>"The answer is simple."   Grrrrr.  Oh ye of little head...

    No shit.  5 years ago there was only 1 helmet which fit
    my head, and it was very expensive.  This time around I'd
    forgotten about front to back fit, and, surprise, after
    an hours worth of riding I get a headache.

    Who are these pinheads the designers are using anyhow?
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
From: mvij@novell.com (Manish Vij)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:54:16 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Aug13.183836.18593@walter.bellcore.com> jyri@thumper.bellcore.com (Jyri Virkki) writes:

>I've been reading this thread on insurance rip-offs (as if you had to
>specify it; aren't 'insurance' and 'rip-off' synonyms?). Anyway, are all
>these ludicrous prices for real? I mean, are all you people with ZX-11's,
>CBR's, (are all the "'"'s correct :-) and other sport-bikes paying amounts
>like those for insurance?!! That's absolutely insane! I'm currently
>ride-less, and I was thinking that as soon as I can I'll get a nice bike,
>but if those are the rates I think I'll go looking for a nice 50cc scooter
>then (NOT!). I hadn't lived in the US before, and each day I'm more amazed
>how can insurance companies possibly screw everyone up SO badly! Aren't they
>regulated in any way; can they do as they please? There should really be
>some kind of strict price control for them! 

I was quoted $2,500/year for insurance on my old mongo cage (station
wagon) after having a small fender-bender.  That's when I dumped the cage
and finally got the bike, at $200/yr (young male, liability only, EX500).
My wagon wasn't even worth $2,500 -- more like $1,500.

>This is sick!

Agreed.
                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
   mvij@novell.com                              \_/.  .  . . ........
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:04:27 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 5653@transfer.stratus.com, cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes:
>> >
>>    Motorcycles are generally poor radar targets because of their small
>> cross section.  
>
>Hell, ever go to a county fair where
>they time softball throws with a radar gun? A softball would seem to be a much
>"poorer" target than a bike, let alone a car or truck and yet the gun has
>no problem picking up the tiny 6" sphere. 

All detection/instrumentation systems must be calibrated.  If the
parameters of the device are chosen, both through design and
calibration, to give optimal return on objects the size and speed of
automobiles and trucks on the highway, they will be sub-optimal picking
up objects outside that range, such as motorcycles and softballs.
Aren't the softball clockers dedicated to that function?  Do you
actually see the local highway patrol clocking softballs with their
traffic radar?  Do you think satellite tracking radar would be good at
catching speeders?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Braking Distances (was Re: Scooters and a non-flame for RKOU)
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:13:14 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


In article <Bt5txw.22H@news.udel.edu> andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen) writes:

>A motorcycle is 
>typically more manueverable than a cage, can fit in smaller
>spaces, can accelerate VERY quickly, and can stop better than the
>average cager in the average cage.

I notice that you qualify the last segment of this by saying that motorcycles
can stop btter than the average cager in the average cage.  
                        ^^^^^^^              ^^^^^^^

I have been reading conflicting reports lately - some say that bikes stop 
in less space than cars, some say that they stop in more space.  I know 
that there is tremendous variation in stopping distances among cars and 
motorcycles, but what are the averages?

When in a line of traffic, do I have to worry more about hitting the car 
in front if it comes to a quick stop, or do I have to worry more about 
being rear-ended if I come to a quick stop?  Since I've been rear-ended 
in a cage twice in the last 
few years (both times when I was at a complete stop, once to turn left, 
and once at a light, both times the other driver was looking at something 
besides the road), I am pay a fair amount of attention to what's 
happening behind me (although there wasn't anything I could do either 
time in my rear-endings as I was boxed in, although I probably could've 
avoided at least one of them if I had been on the morotcycle instead of 
in the cage).

Do motorcycles stop faster than cars?
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck)
Subject: Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:29:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.171217.1805@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
>In article <daved.713803311@convex.convex.com>, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>> I was proudley riding my new ST1100 down fashionable yuppie Newbury 
>> street in Boston and as I turned the corner I slowed down to let a 
>> fashionable yuppish mother walk across the street in fron of me.
>> 
>> She looked at the bike and said " If it was a harley I would ask
>> you for a ride" I was shocked and insulted, ( nothing against harleys
>> but I was pretty proud of my new bike), I felt like saying " well. If you
>> were better looking I might give you a ride" but, held my tongue.
>
>	Hey, Mr. Plastic Bike toy-rider gets turned down by the Lady!
>Why, surprise, surprise!  I have no idea why...
>

My SO just bought a horse. She stables it locally. If you really want to see
women in a state of fitness (at least here in the Illinois), check out a stable.

I ride to the stable to see my babe ride her '90 Palomino. I ride one of
what you call "Jap Rice-burners". At idle, it is quieter than most cars,
WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NEAR HORSES! I get positive comments from
women horse-riders about every other time I show up at the stable.
Mostly, it's "Hey, nice bike", and one even said "Very nice, and I never knew
a motorcycle could be so quiet". 

My friend (ZX-11 owner) and I went to a Steam tractor show in Sycamore, Ill.
We parked among a lot of American Iron (and a few old Duc's from the 70's).
All the kids walked by the big lumbering HD's to get a peek at my friends
ZX, and they were very impressed at the speedo (200 mph max range) and the 
sheer size of the rear tire. What do you think they're gonna dream about 
when they sleep??i

Most jap-bike riders (except squids) don't have the negative image that
HD has. I wonder why??


I have absolutely no jealousy of any HD rider, nor the women they attract
(especially that). 
-- 
=> Dan DeClerck                      |  EMAIL: dand@isdgsm.motgate.mot.com<=
=> Motorola Intl Subscriber Group    |                                    <=
=>                                   |  Phone: (708) 632-4486             <=
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: Helmets and Motorcycle Fatalities
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:56:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.014537.17002@nas.nasa.gov> ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov  
(Robert B. Ciotti) writes:
=>
=> FYI - Some might be interested, here is the fatality rates for the first 
=>6 months of 1991 and 1992 for motorcyclists from the California Highway 
=>Patrol as reported in the San Jose Murkey News.
=>
=>	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Total
=>
=>1991	25	30	24	44	52	53	227
=>1992	17	14	24	35	25	24	137
                               ^^^^

Hmmm... looks like April is a bad month to ride in Cali...

=>-------------------------------------------------------
=>Bob Ciotti      (415) 604-4408      ciotti@nas.nasa.gov           o o 
=>Owner of the 1992 DoD Award Winning Gold Wing from Hell    ___   -\_/\
=>Complete with altimeter, cigarette lighter, and sterEo     o o---0    0

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Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
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"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang)
Subject: Do factory tinted shields have UV protection?
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:11:43 GMT

A few months ago I got my new Shoei X8 which comes with the tinted shield.
All of a sudden I started to wonder what kind of damage can that do to my
eyes if the shield is not uv proof. All my sunglasses failed to stick inside
the helmet without giving me a headache.

Anyone knows if the shields are uv proof in the first place? 

MC's make you DEAF. Helmets make you blind. Geeeee....

Regards,
klp
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