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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban,rec.sport.baseball
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:15:53 GMT

[rec.sport.baseball]
In article <07JAN93.24636872.0055@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> DONS000 <DONS@UNB.CA> writes:
>.The historians are still grappling with all-important key to the
>  nation's past. Holtzman is wrong, of course.  But the Grover Cleveland
>.story may indeed be an urban legend.  Dickson's _Baseball Dictionary_
>  backs the Cleveland thesis, claiming that the candy bar's manufacturer
>  "has long insisted that its product was so named in 1917, when the
>  candy bar came out, for the daughter of President Grover Cleveland."
>  However, a new breed of revisionist historians have challenged this
>  interpretation.  Stuart Flexner's _Listening to America_ claims
>  that the candy bar _Babe Ruth_, introduced in the early 1920s, was
>  not named for "Babe" Ruth (or for Grover Clevelnd's eldest daughter,
>  who had been dead since 1904) but for the granddaughter of George
>  Williamson, president of the Williamson Candy Co., which originally
>  made the candy bar."
>
>  I leave it to you to decide where the truth lies, although I'm
> tempted to abandon my more mundane dissertation topic and tackle
>  this much more meaty and consequential issue.
>
>  Don Soucy
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
never shout movie in a crowded firestation
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ring in the New Year with Some FAQs
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 16:03:13 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>  +
>  +And Nigel the Lemur is my Lemur friend.  Nigel is hurt that he was left
>  +out of the FAQ.  Nigel KNOWS where Terry Chan lives.  Nigel is NOT AMUSED.
>  +
>  +Joel "Who was I to say no when Nigel asked to borrow my rocket launcher?" F
> 
> Lemme get this straight.  Nigel can use a rocket launcher but he
> can't post to USENET?  My respect for lemurs just went down the
> toilet (it was on the edge of the seat before).
> 
> Terry "How about gibbons?" Chan
> --

Terry, tell your respect for Lemurs to watch out for the alligators.



-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU

"I hate quotations." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Subject: Re: The shifty-eyed shifty-shaped Odo
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:52:23 GMT

Didn't you notice that Odo's "human" form didn't really look all that human?
If he had taken a Cardassian shape, it probably would have been equally sketchy
looking; I would guess that it takes a certain amount of effort to maintain a
shape, particularly an unfamiliar one.
 
 
arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
 
>
>In article <lks17nINNk2g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>>
>> How did the Cardassians carry Odo aboard disguised as a sportsbag
>> without noticing his weight?   Or does he shift weight as well as
>> shifting shape?
>
>The thing that bugged me about that scene is when he reshifted, he
>shifted back to his usual self.  I mean, like, really.  Let's smuggle
>ourselves aboard an enemy spacecraft and wander around and be as
>consipicuous as possible, eh?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Ring in the New Year with Some FAQs
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1993Jan5.102435.1784@netcom.com>
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:46:11

>YES, folks, in a similar fashion to the wonderful tradition
>established by
>Generalissimo Francisco Franco with the help of SNL's Weekend Update,
>our very own Cynthia Kandalf is still valiantly holding on to not
>being dead.

That's Kandolf.  I'd hate to think i've suddenly become a fladnak.  I
like being a flodnak.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Upside-down burglar
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:14:01 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1993Jan11.204549.3758@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>
>Right - any brass player worth their mouthpiece will know that a E-sharp
>is a different note than an F, and that an A-sharp is different than a
>B-flat. On the piano, of course, those dweebs can't tell the difference
>which is why trumpet players are worth so much more than piano players.

>Remember that next time you have a choice between dating a mere pianist
>and the more god-like trumpet player (or if you can't find one, the 
>very acceptable trombone player).

String bass players (including fretless electric bassists) can also play 
all the notes in perfect pitch in any key if required and are therefore 
just as (if not more) godlike than trumpet/trombone players. So if you have 
the choice of dating a piano player, a trumpet player or a Bass player 
(like myself) chose the Bassplayer.  I'm available weekends and some 
weeknights for (ahem) audition.

After all, trumpet players use one hand just to hold the thing whereas 
Bassplayers have well developed finger techniques for _both_ hands.  

Brass players also have the disadvantage of an overly developed embouchure 
- who'd want to kiss someone with one of those - yuk.

I can also play a couple of tunes on the piano, trombone and trumpet for 
comparison.  But fortunately my embouchure has returned to normal since I 
gave up the trombone.

Derek "I prefer to play the deep erotic instruments" Tearne



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From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: enterprise vs. love boat
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:17:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan12.000348.11267@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>
>	Maybe I'm missing something, but, they're both on the same
>show.  I would compare Guinan on ST:TNG with the black bartender on
>the love boat, Grady.
>

Or, indeed, with the bartender on the Love Boat, Isaac.

I can just hear people screaming "What, oh what is Ted "Isaac, your
bartender" Lange doing these days?" Well, according to the LA Times,
buried deep in their theatre section, he appears to be starring in
Neil Simon's "The Sunshine Boys" with, of all people, Arte Johnson.

>ObFACT: The actor who played Gopher on the Love Boat is now a
>conservative Republican from Iowa in the House of Representatives.
>

Actually, no. Fred Grandy WAS a Representative, but he was voted
out. Cooter (from the Dukes of Hazzard), however, is still in. I
think.

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley

obUL: The one time anyone responds to an obUL with clear, concise
facts and a citation, I'm out of net range. And he made fun of my
sig, too.
-- 
" 'Socks the cat'? What is this?"
From: masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: No US President Ever Survived an Energy Crisis
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:20:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

An interesting fact for y'all:

No U.S. president who had an energy crisis on his watch has ever made
it through the end of a second term.

Nixon:	First Energy Crisis, 1973. 	Forced to resign, 1974.

Carter:	Second Energy Crisis, 1979. 	Defeated for second term, 1980.

Bush:	Third Energy Crisis, 1990. 	Defeated for second term, 1992.

This should suggest something to somebody...

- Steve (masticol@cs.rutgers.edu).
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.sport.baseball
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:36:49 GMT

In article <C0IMup.3vL@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>,cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter) writes:
>Well, Jerome Holtzman won this *one*.  The Babe Ruth candy bar *is*
>named after Babe Ruth.
>
>Sorry to burst your bubble.

	Well, Dan.  Perhaps you're not aware that Pres.
Roosevelt's daughter was a famous Babe Ruth before GHR ever
played ball.  I think documentation is necessary on your part to
back up your claim.

Furrfu.

ObBaseballUL: When Babe Ruth missed much of the 1925 season with
reported "stomach flu", he actually had VD.

Jon "714 HR, .344 BA, all before penicillin (sp?) was discovered." Papai
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Late breaking potential UL!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:16:38 GMT

PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
: 
: 	You people on alt.folklore.urban have gone too far now.
: First, the mnenomics thread is xposted to r.a.st.misc, then that
: scurrilous sex stuff, now this blasphemy.

Yeah, isn't it great? The gods would be pleased, if they actually
cared - one way or the other - about the actions of insignificant
humans.

Bill "Tongues R Us" Nelson
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Conspiracy_Theory theory
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:15:23 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu
Keywords: conspiracy

In <dolonsgh.726423563@unix1.tcd.ie> dolonsgh@unix1.tcd.ie (DL) writes:

>I am wondering why conspiracy theories make such good stories-what the
>attraction is that makes people almost want to believe them.

>Some ideas:
>-CT's help people deal with randomness by giving a pattern to seemingly
>patternless events.
>-they give people a vivacious "buzz" from supposed knowledge of secret
>or illegal actions.
>-real life drama?
>-a need for scapegoats-someone to blame for wars,depressions,etc.
>-paranoia?

>The point is,conspiracy theories,like all folklore,say more about the
>people who tell them than the people they are told about.

>Any suggestions?

>Donal O Loingsigh
>dolonsgh@unix1.tcd.ie


So, who do you think this guy works for?  Or should I say what does he work
for.

David "still trying to find the rest of my cell" Iverson

--
diverson@phys.ksu.edu
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: The Unmasking of the Faux Cindy
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:43:05 GMT
Organization: The other one
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive


"Cynthia Kandolf" writes:
> How often do i have to post so people know i'm not dead?

Terry sagely brushes her off:
> How do we know it's you?  

Yeah -- please answer the following questions, which only poor Cindy
(God rest her soul) would be able to complete correctly:

1.   Which famous event took place 10 days before your birth?
       a.  The immaculate conception
       b.  Woodstock
       c.  Groundhog day
       d.  The Zapruder film festival

2.   What age difference is there between you and your older brother?
       a.  more than between me & Geri
       b.  10 years
       c.  10 years the other way
       d.  is that mental or physical age?

3.   Where were you when the Challenger shuttle exploded?
       a.  smoking dope behind the gym
       b.  in a trig class
       c.  on the Holodeck
       d.  had nothing to do with it, honest.

4.   What was Henry Kissinger's reaction on meeting you?
       a.  love at first sight
       b.  attempted to negotiate
       c.  fatal attraction
       d.  spilled his wine (white) all over his shoes (black)

5.   What breed of dog do your parents keep in Pittsburgh?
       a.  Dalmatian
       b.  Dalmatian with urea
       c.  Norwegian Elkhound
       d.  Chihuahua ("mexican pet"...)

6.   Which of the following is the "odd-one out" and why?
       a. warm fresh-baked bread
       b. chocolate
       c. macaroni
       d. reindeer stew.

7.   What is the name(s) of your pet stuffed animals?
       a. Stein
       b. Steinar
       c. Brisbane
       d. Terry.

Ha!   Now we'll see!

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund)
Subject: Possessive Spelling (was Re: Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
Summary: Mark Twain brought in. 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:08:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.141127.23131@spider.co.uk> brianw@spider.co.uk (Brian Wyld) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.180935.16231@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>>OB fact: The correct way to spell the possessive of a name in English which
>>ends in an "s" is to append an apostrophe-s, UNLESS the namee is allegedly a
>>god, in which case you just append an apostrophe.  Names I know of in this
>>category are Jesus and Zeus.  I personally would still pronounce the word
>>"Jesus'" as "jesuses".
>
>Surely some mistake? I hate to be pedantic (ok, so I lie - I _love_ to be
>pedantic), but the correct spelling of a possesive is to add apostrophe-s,
>unless the name ALREADY ends in s.
>
>Brian "I`m British, so no arguing ok?" Wyld
>
	The classic exposition of the possessive case in American English
is in Mark Twain's _Huckleberry Finn_ in which he delineates the 
subtle distinctions in expressing possession for a man's:

	1.	son
	2.	dog
	3.	horse
	4.	slave

ObUL:	British was originally used as a slur.
 
 

-- 
Larry Headlund  lmh@world.std.com    Eikonal Systems (617) 482-3345 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <8441@news.duke.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:21:29 GMT

leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker) writes:
>According to a spokesman for Nestle foods, the maker of Baby Ruth
>candy bars, they were named after Grover Cleveland's daughter
>Ruth, not the ball player.  They were first marketed in 1893.
>
>Nestle foods can be reached at 818-549-6000 for those who care
>to verify this.
>
>How about a FAQ addition:
>
>F: "Baby Ruth" candy bars are named after George "Babe" Ruth
>T: "Baby Ruth" candy bars are named after President Cleveland's daughter.

Well, I guess that puts the old Kibosh on:

 cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)

What have you got to say now
 cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)

I guess George Herman may not have had a candy bar named after him.

Jon "I feel better now, even though I thought it was Roosevelt's kid"Papai
From: johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CD Legends
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:30:28 GMT
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research

In article <1993Jan2.211455.11114@panix.com> dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein) writes:
>a **VERY REAL** problem with cds:  In thge old days of vinyl analog
>recordings, when **they** wanted to send secret messages to their agents,
>**they** would place them backwards on the record.  So, for example, the
>secret news that "John was dead" was, in fact, brought out to the public.

It was **Paul** who was dead.  Not only could you hear them say it when you
played the record backwards, but you knew it was true because he was the only
one barefoot on the album cover.

Karen

-- 
        karen@louise.ae.utexas.edu   -or-   johnson@emx.utexas.edu
From: jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ring in the New Year with Some FAQs
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 19:24:31 PST
Organization: Jerry's Attic, Gaston OR

cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:

> -Cindy Kandolf (still not dead)

Are you feeling much better now?

>  cindy@solan.unit.no
>  Trondheim, Norway
> 


--
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Fidonet 1:105/380                                    (bbs) 503-359-5111
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                                                 .. I read banned books ..
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CD Legends
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 10:32:54 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

andrewb@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Andrew Bevin) writes:

> Actually the single Light My Fire has the guitar and keyboard solo's combined
> where as the LP has the solos separated.

I believe that Kibo is an expert at playing two solos combined.

Would that be a Dulo?

ObUl: Reuter, Kuala Lumpur
Two Malaysian burgulars who leapt 50m from the balcony of a 16th-floor flat
survived when they landed in a large rubbish bin. The owner of the flat in
Kuala Lumpur had locked the burgulars in when he found them going through his
belongings.

Isn't this an integral sub-plot to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Kibo, and
Batman Returns?


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: googol (was google??)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:58:37 GMT


In article <1993Jan11.172213.2886@hemlock.cray.com> davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:

>I remember hearing once that a 'google' is 10^100 or something like that.  Is
>this for real?  If so, says who?  If not, has anyone else heard this?  Does
>it have any mathematical use?

From Webster's Ninth New Colligiate Dictionary:

              "   .
   goo-gol \'gu-,gol\ n [coined by Milton Sirotta b ab 1929 nephew of Edward
   Kasner +1955 Am. mathematician] (1938) : the figure 1 followed by 100 zeros
   equal to 10^100

   goo-gol-plex \-,pleks\ n [googol + -plex (as in duplex)] (1938) : the
   figure 1 followed by a googol of zeroes equal to


                                   100
                   googol        10
                 10         or 10

Barth "I could think of literally GOOGLES of clever things to say here, but
I will refrain" Richards

-- 
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From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: google??
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:21:11 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <104425@netnews.upenn.edu>, mrice@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Matt
Rice) wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan12.005135.11898@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
> >davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:
> >>I remember hearing once that a 'google' is 10^100 or something like that. 
> >
> >1) yes
> 
> I thought a google was 10^10, and a googlePLEX was 10^100.
No, a google is 10^100, and I _believe_ a googlePLEX is 10^google.

I have some vague recollection that George Gamow was responsible for these.
(Actually, the story is that he asked his child to name the numbers.) 
Maybe somewone with a better memory than mine can confirm this.

-tony

>>usual disclaimer<<
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:18:56 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

Other popular variants of street names feature common trees:
elm, maple, chestnut, walnut, etc.  They are very popular
around my neighborhood.  

I live on Magnolia, myself.

And has anyone heard the story about the city planner (of
course it "really happened,") who was asked to pick out names
for the streets in a new development, and was told they should
"sound Spanish"?  The names in question were supposed to have
turned out to be "Matador, Picador, and Cuspidor."  

--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Every now and then, a big rock falls out of the sky, and everyone has 
a *very bad* day."  --from the PBS "Dinosaurs" special.
From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The shifty-eyed shifty-shaped Odo
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:11:10 GMT
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.153

>        In the second episode Odo transforms himself into a small rat...

...and infiltrates the Chihuahua battlecruiser.  

Joe "Then the Enterprise docks, he transforms into a gerbil, and...
naah..." Chew
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cars Bursting into Flame
Date: 4 Jan 93 09:24:38 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1993Jan4.020706.7350@midway.uchicago.edu>,
thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> Ted "don't flame me" Frank

     But a flamed frank always tastes better than boiled or
microwaved.

Patrick "followups to rec.food.cannibalism" Clark
-- 
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Email is life!   |  We are over New Jersey.  All is not lost."
Usual disclaimer | --Unidentified red Lectroid announcer
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Late breaking potential UL!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:25:14 GMT

In article <lkhtilINN6q@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>,bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce) writes
>In article 4dx802lO30Rq01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com, tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>> Kinda hard to give an executive order a month before you become executive.
>
>He managed to become Time's Man of the Year in the year before he
>assumed office -- the guy's obviously got the jump us somehow, Terry.

From Jan. 4 1993 _Columbus Dispatch_:
Bill Clinton is attracting more than the usual attention as Time
magazines Man of the Year, thanks to a cover portrait that has
the top of the "M" in times logo poking up, hornlike, behind the
president-elect's head.  Add to that the fact that Clinton is the
66th MOY, and that photographer William Coupon shot 6 rolls of
film in the photo session, and you find yourself staring at the
horns of a dilemma.
"No, Bill Clinton is not the AntiChrist" said Time spokesman
Robert Pondiscio.  Readers have deluged his office office with
calls and faxes.
___________

Jon "If Christ and Anti-Christ collide, energy released=mC^2" Papai
From: ath@linkoping.trab.se (Anders Thulin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: A chip on the shoulder
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:07:07 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden

In article <ll40l0INN1am@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>Any guesses on the origin of the phrase "a chip 
>on the shoulder"  -- meaning to be embittered about
>something?

Embittered? Isn't it more of defiance implied?

In which case, it could easily be a challenge: 'I dare you to knock
this chip off my shoulder'. If the other person dared, a fight would
probably start. Used as a metaphor, the fight would probably be
verbal.

Sounds like some old-fashioned school-boy practice of starting a
fight.
-- 
Anders Thulin        ath@linkoping.trab.se        013-23 55 32
Telia Research AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AFU person of the year?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:28:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

styri@nta.no writes:
  +
  +ObUL: Everbody knows someone who knows a Terry

I know I do.
  
  +YuNoHoo  "AFU person of the year? What is wrong with the Terries and
  +          the odd net.goddess?"

We're famous everyday on AFU.  We want to give YOU guys a chance.

Terry "humble pie" Chan
--
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Yeah, right.
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