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From: cmb@bluemoon.use.com (Chris Bugosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Couple problems
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:04:26 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

In X:
   Is anyone else running a Logitech C7 (3 button) mouse?  I just
   installed X and have been trying to get it to work with my mouse.
   Technically, its working, but the mouse is REALLY hard to use.
   ie. its kind of jumpy, etc.  I've changed the SampleRate and that
   helps a little bit, but nothing too terribly much.
  
   Also, is anyone running an Orchid ProDesigner II with a SONY CPD-1304
   monitor?  I have it running as well, but just wanted to see if there
   have been any optimizations (I didn't see it in the vga.dbase)

Linux in general:
   I installed the SLS kit.  If/When I want to upgrade myself to .97,
   or update any of the utilities, do I just plug them in, or do I need
   something special since I installed with SLS?  Thanks.

Chris

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From: marcel@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Marcel J.E. Mol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mount -t msdos problem
Keywords: mount, msdos
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:49:43 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

sachse@owlnet.rice.edu (Eric Christopher Sachs) writes:

>I was able to use mount without
>a problem under v.97 and v.97.1, but v.97.2, v.97.3, and
>v.97.4 all core dump if I try to mount a dos floppy.  I
>am currently using the executable for mount that I obtained
>from the installation of v.97.  Is there a more recent
>version that I should be using?  

I had the same problem. But after getting mount0.97 from nic.funet.fi
(I guess from the bin directory) the problem was solved...

-MArcel
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: s_baumgn@irau26 (Fred Baumgarten)
Subject: Re: tin1.1pl4 goes BOOM on 097pl4
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:58:13 GMT

Klaus Guhr (kg@gnusys.GUN.de) wrote:
: Vincent D. Skahan (vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
: : have any of the 'news' folks out there experienced
: : problems with the 'tin' newsreader blowing up with
: : a SIGSEV fault after switching to 097pl2 or above ?


the same happened to me - but not w/ tin - tin works fine. i have smail
used as smtpd - this also gets a SIGSEGV+coredump. I tried to recompile
both - smail and kernel, but still got the error. Back into 097pl2
everything works fine.

: i've sucessfully compiled tin-version 1.15 and it works fine with linux
: 0.97.2. The binarie is compiled with gcc 2.2.2d. No problems. 

the same to me - tin 1.1pl4.

: : Just to be sure, I recompiled it with 2.2.2d 
: : (all from mcc-interim 097p2) and same thing happened.
: : 
: : The same binary worked fine at 095c+ through all of
: : 096...
: 
: Is your kernel OK? Sometimes ago i had  the same probs. Using a new

my kernel (0.97pl4) ran 12++ hours w/ no problems except this smtpd
found that being the only program not behaveing as it should...

: compiled kernel solved all this ...
: 
: [...]-- 
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From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How to send mail to obz@sisd.kodak.com
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:09:05 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas


Sorry to bring this to the news group. Can some one tell me
how I can send e-mail to zorst. Using obz@sisd.kodak.com
produces returned mail with authoritative information that
sisd is not a valid host. I gaveup sending mail last time
because of this. But this time, no way! :-)

Ramesh
From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: Compiler internal error  -  addition
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:36:17 GMT


This is to add to my previuos post. Althought hello.c
won't compile regularly, it will with -V 2.2.2 flag.

				Rafal
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vandi@catt.ncsu.edu (Brian Vandivier)
Subject: Re: Linux-Activists Digest #153
Reply-To: vandi@catt.ncsu.edu (Brian Vandivier)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:37:00 GMT

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From: gt7080a@prism.gatech.EDU (Nathan Laredo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Microsoft Busmouse patch for 0.97pl4
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:54:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

(I'm posting this just because I can't reply to the above address...
 and maybe someone else might enjoy knowing this tidbit)

In article <8qZuqB1w164w@q106fm.UUCP> pete@q106fm.UUCP (pete cervasio) writes:
>With this patch, the minor devices for bus mice are:
>
>    0 - Logitech
>    1 - PS/2 style mouse
>    2 - Microsoft

Yes, and I just installed this patch... using it now... I can verify
that my logitech mouse doesn't like being accessed as 10 2 but as 10 0
there seem to be no problems whatsoever with the added code.   I don't 
notice any difference in speed at all...   And aside from not being able
to specifically detect a microsoft mouse (as predicted, it will tell me
"Logitech bus mouse detected and installed" and "Microsoft bus mouse detected
and installed" and of course "No ps/2-style pointing device found")  it
seems pretty clean.

I don't know if this would work, but I did think of one way to tell a
microsoft from logitech bus mouse after you find the bus mouse signature:
(of course this is completely speculative and untested as usual)

since the control port for the logitech mouse is at 0x23e and the data port
is at 0x23c, but on the microsoft mouse the control is at 0x23c and data at
0x23d, that could be used to discriminate between the two types of mice.

Since the microsoft mouse seemingly has nothing at 0x23e it shouldn't hurt
to write there, and since the microsoft's control port is at 0x23c you
wouldn't expect any data there.   The init code could then safely write
some command to 23e and wait for a while to see the desired response from
the data port at 23c.   After some timeout, it's assumed that if the 
desired response hasn't shown itself, the mouse is microsoft... otherwise
it's logitech.   A good test might be to ask for a movement report.

Voila... instant discrimination.   (hey, isn't that supposed to be something
to avoid in life :)

-Nathan

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d bug
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:09:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.202913.14346@hippo.ru.ac.za> pi@cs.sun.ac.za writes:
>I have found that gcc is generating the wrong code for the following
>code fragment:
>
>  int p = 10;
>  p = p++;
>
>From my C background, I have found the value to be 10.  Unfortunately
>(for the gcc maintainers) the result is 11.

I have this idea that if you posted this to comp.lang.c, Chris Torek or
someone similar would point out that this is correct behaviour.  My gut
feeling is that it SHOULD be 11 but I'm not a C guru.

Later,
Brendan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang)
Subject: GRASS porting to LINUX
Keywords: grass GIS
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:17:59 GMT

Could someone tell me where and how to contact the group who are
trying to port GRASS (a PD GIS from US ARMY CIVIL ENGINEERING CROP) 
to LINUX?  I have been tring the address provided in the register
form but without any luck.  All messages were returned.  Thanks.

Harry
From: Rob.Levin@f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Best choice for booting from hard drive
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 18:53:32 -0800

 KWH> can boot linux from my
 KWH> hard drive.  I am aware of shoelace and lilo, but am 
 KWH> not aware of the diff-
 KWH> erences.

Shoelace is getting very old, and may not have all the source available,
since it started out life as a Minix utility.  Lilo is still in alpha
test, as I understand it, but seems very robust.  I'd go with Lilo.


Rob L.


 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: Re: Mtools documentation (was Re: Clue?)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:52:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.030734.17440@utdallas.edu> yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu) writes:
> With all the fuss about mtools, I'm wodering what's the point? With
> DOS fs, should mtools be obsolete? (except perhaps, mformat).

Well, partially, yes. But there are a few cases where you still might want
to have Mtools around (besides mformat):

  - it's a backup if you hit a bug in the MS-DOS FS.
  - handling is slightly easier if you only want to perform one or two
    operations on a disk.
  - some operations are faster than with the MS-DOS FS.
  - mattrib can change all attribute bits, including "sys" and "hidden".
  - mlabel can't be emulated by the MS-DOS FS.

But for starters who only want to get at their downloaded files, the
MS-DOS FS should be all that's needed.

- Werner
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Subject: Cnews and rn
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:05:53 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

If anybody is interested, I have Cnews (the most recent version on
ftp.uu.net) and rn (also from ftp.uu.net) up and running, which I
could put up for ftp (at, say, tsx-11). 
Someone said the compiling Cnews was a trivial task; however, if'n you're
like me, a relative newbie to porting, it damn sure ain't. (Well, actually,
it was--I just had to figure out which file to rename for Cnews, as it
was expecting an outfile name from yacc which bison was calling something
else; and I had to adjust (read fornicate with :-) an include file to get
rn to compile properly...the damn Makefile came out screwy at first...)
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go ahead and bundle Cnews and rn and
upload 'em to tsx-11 and sunsite. Probably this weekend, the way things are
going today.... ;-)

				James

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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: MBR recommendation needed
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:34:33 GMT
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

Hi all,

I would like to boot DOS and Linux off the hard drive.  I am currently 
using LILO and the MS-DOS MBR with the active partition set to Linux.  
I am looking for an MBR similar to the one that come with Coherent, that 
will boot the active partition by default but allow me to select the boot 
partition if I want to boot DOS.  I have seen a few less-flexible MBR's 
that either wait for you to make a selection (no timeout default) or have 
no selection (like the DOS MBR), and I have seen DOS utilities that will
boot Linux (I don't want to be dependent on DOS), but I haven't quite
found what I'm looking for.  I will, of course, settle for a clone of
the Coherent MBR if one is available but I'd prefer a user-defined
timeout period.

The only reason I'm looking for such a thing is because I don't want
to use a floppy to boot DOS when someone wants to use my machine for 
word processing or games.  :-)

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Jim H.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft)
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d problems
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:44:49 GMT

In <lao3qdINN70h@ozona.cs.utexas.edu> jefftep@cs.utexas.edu (Jeffrey Grills) writes:

>jablo@diku.dk (Jacob Martin Bohn Lorensen) writes:
>>Recently I got GCC 2.2.2d. I even used the install.2.x shell
>>script with no problems. :-)
>>
>>But when I try to compile the kernel, or any program bigger than
>>"hello world", cpp gets a signal 11 (SIGSEGV ?) and dumps core.
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>

>Ah, that problem.  Sorry I don't have a fix for you.  No one ever found
>a proper solution for me when I had that problem.  I will tell you (and
>everyone else) what I have done.

I have heard some rumors that this problem was caused by duplicate files.
I think that copies of 'cpp' came with the MCC interim releases, and our
newer compilers don't like them. Using find, you could try:

   find / -name cpp -ls

to find out. Otherwise it might be possible to locate all duplicate 
programs by something like:

   cd /
   ls -lRF | grep \* | awk '{print $8}' | sort > /tmp/exec.lst
   cd /tmp
   uniq exec.lst | diff exec.lst -

Please read me well: I did not encounter this problem myself, but I think
this might be a solution. Previous releases of GCC always warned to get
rid of all other compilers on your systems: currently they can coexist, but
I think stray files like 'cpp' can still cause incompatibilities. cpp has
changed a lot the last months.

Good luck,



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: genie@netcom.com (The Genie)
Subject: Uemacs
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 01:15:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Hi folks.  I tried installing the images of the 0.97p2 boot/util/
gcc/misc onto my 33mhz 120meg hd, and everything worked like
a charm.  Easy and simple.  I hope future distributions get
done this way - it allows people who are new to unix (like me)
to install easily.

But I think there is a problem with the gcc 2.2.2d images.
They installed without a problem but now when I try to run several
progras, I'm getting weird errors.
For example, with uemacs:
When I type emacs, it reponds
"This terminal doesn't have enough power to run microEmacs!"

WHAT?   I have 8 megabytes!

For the shared library version of GNU Emacs:
"Can't find /lib/libc.2.2.2"
I tried linking the /lib/libc.so.2.2  hoping that
the name might have been changed with future releases.
And now I get a core dump.

For tcsh.a (from tsx-11)
I type "make"
"tcsh.a(sh.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment
.
.
.	[More of the same errors except for different .o files]
.
"tcsh.a(ed.inputl.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from ..."

So can anyone tell me the scoop of my problem?  

Thanks in advance.

Gene
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Newbie GCC Problem -- PLEASE HELP!
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:39:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pool.1992Sep5.063941.18734
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

In article <7hlnv=q.harp@netcom.com> harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
>
>I've just installed the MCC-Interim (0.97p2) distribution, and I 
>can't get gcc to create useable executables.
>
>The simplest "Hello, world" program won't work.  I get an executable
>file, but it isn't. %) The permissions are all set right, but I get a
>"command not found" message whenever I try to run it.
>

Maybe the shell isn't finding the command, as the error message
suggests.  Try "echo $PATH" and see if the current directory ('.')
is included in there somewhere.  If it isn't then try running the 
program by telling the shell where to find it, like "./progname".

>gcc isn't giving me any warnings about anything, so as far as I know
>it thinks it's working fine.
>

It probably IS working fine.

>I didn't do anything funky during the installation.  I'm using it
>pretty much out of the box at this point.  I _did_ tell the installer
>that I had a 486.  I _didn't_ rebuild the kernel (apparently very
>fortunately, since my compiler's broken).  
>
>Any ideas why this isn't working?  I assume that it worked for MCC and
>has worked for most people, so what did I do wrong?
>

Do you have an introductory Unix book?

>I've stayed up much to late working on this...  Please help me!
>  Greg
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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d bug
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:19:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

When discussing ``p = p++'', system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
writes:
>Indeed very poor code.  The final result will be 11.  because even if
>the assign works properly the increment will still happen.  

Wrong.  There is no single correct answer (except a core dump).  The
assignment and increment can happen in any order, since they occur in
the same interval between two sequence points.  Go read the comp.lang.c
FAQ, the standard, and any decent book on C about sequence points. 
Please.  I have included an extract of the C FAQ, in order to kill this
thread.  It is irrelevant to Linux, and IMHO doesn't need any more
posts, since the subject has already been discussed to death in other
newsgroups (c.l.c.  and comp.std.c). 

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi

From the C FAQ:

3.1:	Under my compiler, the code

		int i = 7;
		printf("%d\n", i++ * i++);

	prints 49.  Regardless of the order of evaluation, shouldn't it
	print 56?

A:	Although the postincrement and postdecrement operators ++ and --
	perform the operations after yielding the former value, the
	implication of "after" is often misunderstood.  It is _not_
	guaranteed that the operation is performed immediately after
	giving up the previous value and before any other part of the
	expression is evaluated.  It is merely guaranteed that the
	update will be performed sometime before the expression is
	considered "finished" (before the next "sequence point," in ANSI
	C's terminology).  In the example, the compiler chose to
	multiply the previous value by itself and to perform both
	increments afterwards.

	The behavior of code which contains multiple, ambiguous side
	effects has always been undefined.  Don't even try to find out
	how your compiler implements such things (contrary to the ill-
	advised exercises in many C textbooks); as K&R wisely point out,
	"if you don't know _how_ they are done on various machines, that
	innocence may help to protect you."

	References: K&R I Sec. 2.12 p. 50; K&R II Sec. 2.12 p. 54; ANSI
	Sec. 3.3 p. 39; CT&P Sec. 3.7 p. 47; PCS Sec. 9.5 pp. 120-1.
	(Ignore H&S Sec. 7.12 pp. 190-1, which is obsolete.)
From: jepstei@afterlife.ncsc.mil (John Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: No patchlevel 3.
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:17:33 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Sep7.215429.7866@umr.edu> dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan Miner) writes:
>
>	I've watched long enough and feel 97 is stable.  :)  (I'm
>still paranoid from the 0.12 days. :)  I got the linux 0.97
>and patches 1, 2, and 4.  I read about pl3 and decided to 
>wait a little (~100K? for that one).  Now, I got pl4 and ready for
>an all night compile (it takes over 5 hrs on my machine.. :(  )
>I remembered something about a 0.97.2 release.  I got it and
>downloaded and applied pl4.  If failed only on the main Makefile.
>Simply statement (Version numbers).  I noticed the patch was
>made around 0.97.3... Now I don't want a bomb after 5 hrs of compiling.
>It there a pl3 or can I continue with 0.97.2 and pl4?
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>Hackers' Guide Coordinator/(making a better wish list :)
>-- 
> Dan Miner
>                           		 email: dminer@cs.umr.edu
>Computer Science          
>University of Missouri-Rolla             "It all begins with a glimmer."

Patch 3 IS at sunsite --- or at least was there on Sunday when I installed
it over mcc 0.97p2

BTW: patchlevel 3 restored the speed I lost with pl2 on 386DX 25 MHz with slooow
2 wait state memories. I haven't done any scientific testing but can
play xmahjongg without waiting again (was slooow with pl2).
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rwb@Turing.ORG (Robert W. Bingler)
Subject: The great Video SAGA...
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:04:35 GMT

Hey,
	I am in need of some particular advice on video cards.  I am looking at getting an ET4000 chipset based board.  The problem is which one would be the best choice.  I am looking for a inexpensive(cheap) card with hopefully the hicolor option.  I have seen a few major brand of cards such as these, Orchid ...
	I am looking for any advantages/disadvantages over these "name brand"
to that of clone cards.  Also, I want as fast as possible.  Please send me any
comments on comparisons of these cards:
	Orchid Prodesigner IIs   Tseng Labs	generic clones

Probably one of the most important factors is price.  I have seen the Orchid
at around $150, Tsseng @ $110, clones @ $100.

I want the ET4000 to ensure myself that I will be able to run Win 3.1, OS/2,
and X386.  Is there a compatability problem among these various cards?

On a similar notes, does anyone have info on the ATI wonder 24XL?

Thanks a lot,
Rob


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