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From: west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West)
Subject: Texas Rangers Roster
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:41:41 GMT

From the 4/6 issue of the Dallas Morning News, this is the roster for
the Texas Rangers for the beginning of the season:

Starters:  Kevin Brown, Jose Guzman, Jeff Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Witt
Relievers:  Floyd Bannister, Steve Fireovid, Terry Mathews, Kenny Rogers,
	Wayne Rosenthal, Jeff Russell

Catchers:  Geno Petralli, Ivan Rodriguez
Infielders:  Monty Fariss, Jeff Huson, Al Newman, Rafael Palmeiro,
	Dean Palmer, Dickie Thon
Outfielders:  John Cangelosi, Jack Daugherty, Brian Downing, Juan Gonzalez,
	Kevin Reimer, Ruben Sierra

Disabled:  John Barfield, Scott Chiamparino, Hector Fajardo, Bill Haselman,
	Julio Franco

Starters should generally be:
1B  Rafael Palmeiro
2B  Julio Franco
3B  Dean Palmer
SS  Dickie Thon
LF  Kevin Reimer
CF  Juan Gonzalez
RF  Ruben Sierra
DH  Brian Downing

Until Franco returns 2B will be manned by some combination of Jeff Huson,
Monty Fariss and Al Newman.  Fariss will replace Reimer in LF against
some lefties (like tonight's :-).

Mike West
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From: dickh@cleveland.esd.sgi.com (Dick Harkness)
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:03:12 GMT

In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
|> 
|> Give the significance of the number and the player
|> who holds the record.
|> 
|> 1) .424      Highest BA maybe
|> 2) 2.17      lowest era
|> 3) 56        \
|> 4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak
|> 5) 61
|> 6) 190
|> 7) 511
|> 8) 755       HR career?
|> 9) 5511      Hits career?   Pete Rose?
|> 10) 7
|>
Number 2 should be career ERA...season ERA is in the low 1's (1.13???...Bob Gibson?)

Number 5 is Roger Maris and season HR record
Number 6 is Hack Wilson's season RBI record
Number 10 is, I believe, Nolan's seven no-no's

Dick Harkness
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bobby Bonilla
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:50:19 GMT
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY

In article <1992Apr7.211952.12129@acsu.buffalo.edu> v083qpkr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey C Toth) writes:
>You know, everyone keeps talking about Bobby Bonilla, and how he is supposed to
>save the Mets this year and how he was a stupid get for the Mets.  Well, I

I am tired of seeing this... even from a fan but:

	BOBBY BONILLA WAS >>>NOT<<< AQUIRED TO "SAVE" THE METS!

The net.mets.bashers have been saying Bonilla's job is to "save" the
Mets when all along GM Al Harazin has been saying he was signed to
provide scoring punch (home runs and RBIs) to a team that missed the bat
of Darryl Strawberry (my assement, Harazin has never actually said they
missed Strawberry's bat but it is evident as he dances around the
issue).  The *only* person who was aquired to "save" the Mets is manager
Jeff Torborg.  PERIOD!

>Bonilla is here to help the club and so far he has.  I know one game doesn't
>make it a smart buy for the Mets.  What they need is to shake up the
>organization and start to put the team ahead of the individual and that is what
>they are doing with there off-season acquisitions.

According to the organization, this is exactly right!

He hit a couple of good ones on Monday, but it's one game in a 162
season.  Let's see how things start shakin' out in June!

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From: klund@chihuacle.gac.edu (Kevin T Lund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Rickey/Ryan
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:49:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr13.214936.867

In article <167C8F309.CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>  writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.184236.26061@acsu.buffalo.edu>
> v393qp56@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Viktor Brenner) writes:
>  
> >
> >of  Ricky Henderson		I only make 3mil and i'm more important
> >				to the game?  Who's this Ruth fella, get
> >				his picture outta here, I'm the best that
> >				has ever been.
>  
>      Aw, c'mon, give Rickey (note spelling) a break.  When he said,
> "You were good, Lou, but today I am the greatest," he was referring
> to prowess in stealing bases, not overall ability or value.  And you
> know what?  He was right.  His assessment of both Brock and himself
> was pretty accurate.  No, it wasn't elegant or gracious but dammit,
> Henderson isn't paid to make speeches, he's paid to win ballgames
> for the teams he plays for, and he's done a hell of a lot more of
> that than Nolan Ryan

Just as a thought, how do you think Ryan would have done if he were on the  
teams that Henderson played for?  Nolan has been on low scoring teams most  
of his career (imagine a young Nolan Ryan with this Rangers lineup...  
Wow!)  and has still put up impressive numbers.  With some offense he  
could easily have had a few Cy Young Awards and who knows how many more  
victories. 

 or any of the clowns who thought it was so
> "fitting" that Ryan stole the headlines the next morning.  He was
> put on the spot and may have sounded a little arrogant but like
> Dizzy Dean said, if you can do it, it ain't bragging.
>      ESPN's little 7>939 feature was really nasty and undeserved
> by Henderson.  It's too bad that Ryan will probably get more HOF
> votes than Rickey, and maybe even go in on an earlier ballot, seeing
> as Rickey is at least twice as good a player as Ryan.

Personally, I thought that ESPN's feature was very fitting.  Nolan Ryan is  
one of the classiest figures in sports, and Henderson could learn a lot  
from him.  I think Rickey is a great player, probably the most dangerous  
leadoff hitter the game's ever seen, but in no way is he twice as good as  
Nolan.

Kevin L
>  
> Jeff Caveney
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 18:21:47 EDT
From: mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: 1992 Braves Predictions

         Well, I thought (not like you care) that I would post my predictions
    for my Braves this year.  Last year I predicted the Braves would finish no
    worse than 10 games out, which of course came true.  But I did get replies
    like this:

              Mark,
                   About your Braves predictions: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
              BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
                                           Signed
                                                 The net.

     So, skeptical though you may be, here it is:

            The Braves will win the 1991 World Series.

     Yes they will finally win it all.  I'm loosening up the ol tomahawk elbow.

     But wait, there's more!

            - Don't get too high on Keith Mitchell yet.  He won't do anything
              until July when the Braves go into their SummerSlump.

            - Otis Nixon will hit in the .280 range....until the All-Star break

            - Ron Gant will be a 30-30 man again.

            - The Braves 5th starter will win 12-15 games, but it won't be
              Beilecki

            - Dave Justice will finish first or second in MVP voting

            - Hunter will see alot of work at first when Bream doesn't hit,
              Mike Bell will see some work, as well as Klesko in the fall

            - Melvin Nieves ---- Watch Out, he's my surprise of the year.

            Fast Starters === Gant, Nixon, Glavine, Mercker
            Fast Finishers === Mitchell, Avery, Wohlers, Blauser
            Pack your bags === Bream, Smith (both of 'em), Esasky, Gregg

        Well, there they are.  Fire away.
-------
========================================================================
  Mark Rieker   MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu   Go Atlanta Braves!
                                       1991 National League Champions!!
  We are Penn State

 "I'm not like this because I'm in college, I'm in college because I'm
  like this"
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From: rfett@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Russell S. Fett)
Subject: Texas Rangers
Keywords: I have to say that I am a diehard Tigers fan but I am now stuck in
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 19:59:04 GMT

Texas. I have seen many requests for Ranger news without many replies. Here is
the latest I have heard.
	PITCHING: Coming out of spring training all the starters are healthy and
Witt, Guzman and Brown looked sharp. Jeff Russell's elbow will be a concern but
he claims that he is fine. Kenny Rogers could be the glue that holds together a
shaky bullpen that includes stars such as Floyd Bannister and Steve Fireovid.
	INFIELD: One of the strongest hitting infields especially if Franco can
recover quickly from his knee injury. Look for Palmeiro and Palmer to put up big
numbers and I think Thon will surprise people at short. Filling in for Franco is
Al Newman for defense and Monty Farriss for offense depending on what the need
is that day.
	OUTFIELD: This could be the strongest hitting outfield in the majors.
Sierra, Gonzalez and Reimer could all hit 20+ homers and drive in 100 runs.
Daugherty is a solid backup and the Rangers finally woke up and got rid of
Pettis, replacing him with Cangelosi.
	CATCHING: Another solid position with Rodriguez starting and Petralli
backing him up.

	OUTLOOK: If everything came together for the Rangers, namely their
pitching and defense, they could run away with the division. I look for the
Rangers to contend for most of the season but their lack of bullpen will catch
up with them near the end of the season and they will finish third.
From: skitchen@pica.army.mil (D. Scott Kitchen (CCAC) <skitchen>)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:14:06 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army ARDEC, Dover NJ

In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu> GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
>
>Give the significance of the number and the player
>who holds the record.

If you don't want to see what I think the answers are, hit "n" while you
still can.  Spoilers be here...
















>
>1) .424      Highest BA maybe

	I agree with the assessment, but I forget who got it.  I think it's
Rogers Hornsby...

>2) 2.17      lowest era

	Looks, smells, and feels like an ERA, but it's not the lowest
single-season total -- that's Bob Gibson (1.12)...got me.

>3) 56        \
>4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak

	The 56 is easy -- that's DiMaggio's streak.  The 57...well, I seem
to remember Hershiser's streak being 58.2 innings, but maybe it was 56.2

>5) 61

	Maris' single season home run record

>6) 190

	Hack Wilson's single season RBI record

>7) 511

	Was it Cy Young or Grover Cleveland Alexander who had 511 wins in
his career?

>8) 755       HR career?

	Aaron's career home runs...

>9) 5511      Hits career?   Pete Rose?

	Nolan Ryan's career strikeouts...

>10) 7

	Nolan Ryan's career no-hitters.

>
>Any suggestions?  Good luck..I post the answers when the next paper
>arrives....at the end of april.....
>
>grant


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From: peltz-russel@CS.YALE.EDU (Russel Peltz)
Subject: Philadelphia Phillies
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:42:22 GMT

Anybody know what happened in the Phils' home opener today?  Please respond
via e-mail.  Thanks.

Rusty

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From: kirsch@ux.acs.umn.edu (Dave Kirsch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Ced Landrum of the Cubs
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:12:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr14.171234.8291
Organization: David Cone's Pull Toys and Assorted Paraphenalia, Inc.

In article <1992Apr9.142833.2226@news.iastate.edu> twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>According to ths morning's (4/9) Des Moines _Register_, Iowa Cubs outfielder
>Ced Landrum "blew out" his groin while rounding third base in an inside-the-

  Wait a minute. Wasn't that Lulu's fault? 

  Oops, sorry. Wrong game. I was thinking of the Jays-Tigers. 

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"Sportswriters mostly sit in bars and argue about things, then go home and 
 write all the clever bullshit they think they should have said at the time."
From: v393qp56@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Viktor Brenner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Bones?
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:33:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Did Ricky Bones start in the Milwaukee's 5-4 win over the Angels 
on Friday?  If so, how did he do?

     						vik
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From: mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles)
Subject: Re: I Told You Bonilla Was Worth the Money
Keywords: Seriously:  A Truly Different Mets' Team
Organization: Auto-trol
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:48:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.165256.16575@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>
>This silly Bonilla-bashing is ridiculous.  I'll never understand why people
>get so offended when a ballplayer chooses to leave their city.  That
>Bonilla is now a Met does not lessen my appreciation of him as a ballplayer
>one whit; I can hope the Mets lose without having to hate the players on
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aw Sherri, and you were being so *nice* up to then :)

>the team, or make up stuff to put them down.
>
Thanks for the (as usual) accurate information.

Matt

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Will Clark as a Triple Crowner?
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:43:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.171807.4267@u.washington.edu> tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>2.  I read this neat little story last year :  Griffey and whomever batted   
>behind him were on the on-deck circle as Frank Tanana was warming up.  The
>other guy told Griffey to get a good look at this guy as he warmed up.
>Griffey responded, "Is he a rookie?"  

Legend had it that Babe Ruth didn't even know the names of his teammates.
-- 
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Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
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From: mit@b11.ingr.com (Timothy A. Turner)
Subject: Re: LA Bashing (was: re: Parking Lots...)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:31:54 GMT

|> Wait.  I am a loyal Dodger fan.  It is true that it's sad to see people
|> leaving a game in the 7th inning just so they can beat the traffic.  But

Are these all fans in general, or just employees of the LAPD?
From: v393qp56@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Viktor Brenner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ALL-Troublemaker Team  :)
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:42:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.083901.2325@ducvax.auburn.edu>, kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes...
> 
>[ stuff deleted ]
> 
>> (This suggests a new thread. The All Trouble-Maker Team.)
> 
>Hey! Good idea! :)
>Here goes!
> 
>POS Player Name                    Reason
>--- ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------
>OF  Kevin Mitchell                 Rape allegations, taking IF practice wearing
>                                   a walkman 
>OF  Darryl Strawberry              jerk
>OF  jose Canseco                   leaving socks at Madonna's, speeding (55 mh
>                                   OVER the limit)
>OF  Otis Nixon                     Coke (no WONDER he runs so fast...he's
>                                   WIRED!)
>OF  Lenny Dykstra                  Drinking beer and wrecking car and season
>1B  Franklin Stubbs                Charging mound with bat (I think it was him)
>2B  Steve Sax                      mouth in general esp. while in LA
> 
>P   Roger Clemens                  Brawling w/o a license
>P   David Cone                     Wanking
>P   Oil Can Boyd                   Forcing the wife to imitate a punching bag
>P   Pascual Perez                  Running away to NY after a bad start
>P   Rob Dibble                     Throwing at a baserunner; jerk
>P   Steve Howe                     Coke, coke, coke, coke, coke, and coke
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>These are just the ones I can think of offhand.  Feel free to add to the list.
>Let me also say that some of the charges above were found to be
>unsubstantiated, such as Cone's recent thing and K. Mitchell's trouble.
>At least, I think Mitchell's were unsubstantiated.  Some are purely opinions,
>mostly I'm hoping a few people will get a laugh out of it.  What can I say,
>I'm in a silly mood.
> 
>Ken

3b  Gary Sheffield		WAAH!  How come he (Spiers) makes the club
				in 2 years and it takes me 3?  I'm not 
				gonna play!   I'm not gonna try!

of  Ricky Henderson		I only make 3mil and i'm more important
				to the game?  Who's this Ruth fella, get
				his picture outta here, I'm the best that
				has ever been.  
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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Injuries
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  8 Apr 92 14:36:42 GMT

In <1992Apr8.065535.6517@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mbk45850@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James Bond) writes:


>	What a first couple of days in baseball!  What is with all these
>injuries?  Dykstra, Galarraga, Oquendo, Ryan, Sabo, am I missing anyone?
>All I can say is that I'm glad none of these guys were on my Roto team.
>I wonder who will get injured tomorrow?

Yes, Mike Gallego was placed on the 15-day DL yesterday. I cam out of
my auction thrilled to have Franco and Gallego....now my middle IF
is shot to hell!
(cry!)

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From: eanderso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Eric W. Anderson "ERK")
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career)
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 16:46:41 GMT

In article <204627@unix.cis.pitt.edu> dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>Everyone loves to argue about MVP's, but I want to introduce a new concept:
>the LVP.  The LVP is the player who costs your team the most just by being
>in the lineup.  In order to avoid confusion (given that the very worst 
>players never make it to the majors at all), we'll make this a cumulative
>stat, so that a true LVP is LVP by virtue of being pathetic for long periods
>of time.  
>

How about Tom "need to throw fewer homeruns" Niedenfuer (sp?) who was
a multi-headed goat for the Dodgers before they finally traded him.



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From: brock@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bradley W. Brock)
Subject: Re: Rose Mgr-1b (was Sabo out)
Reply-To: brock@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bradley W. Brock)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.134348.7803@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>  
hildebranb@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
> Well, he did say when you're the manager...Maybe not great, but Nick Esasky  
was
> far better than Rose as a player.  It was ridiculous that Pete played himself
> ahead of Esasky during those years.  Esasky amply illustrated what he could  
do
> if playing full-time after he was traded to the RedSox (and when not afraid  
of
> heights).  I don't know about the worst, either, but from a different  
approach
> what everyday first baseman was he better than?  Greg Brock, maybe?
> 
> Bret Hildebran
> hildebranb@astro.pc.ab.com
Just a clarification Nick Esasky has vertigo which means "a disordered state in  
which the individual or his surroundings seem to whirl dizzily" according to  
Webster.  Acrophobia is an "abnormal dread of being at a great height."   
Perhaps Hitchcock's movie caused this confusion because Jimmy Stewart's vertigo  
recurred only when he was at a great height.
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From: mrs43610@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Madison R Smith)
Subject: Re: Camden Yards
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:21:37 GMT

areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:


>Just my two cents - How do other people feel about the park?

I thought the pattern of the grass in the infield was funky.  I haven't seen
anything like it before.

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From: ko@teecs.UUCP (Sam Ko)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:47:12 GMT
Subject: Re: YANKEES (was: Re: blue jays vs. red sox)
Organization: Litton Systems, Toronto ONT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball

The Jays just won the mini-series 3 games to 1.

Jays are 9 wins & 1 lost, while the

Yankees are 6 wins & 3 losts.


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From: dougb@comm.mot.com (DX529 Doug Bank)
Subject: Re: Villanueva?
Reply-To: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:36:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.143130.627@cs.tulane.edu>, eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (DAVID BONAR) writes:

|> >Just curious, but what is so wrong with playing Villanueva behind the
|> >plate everyday?  Just how bad a catcher was he?
|> 
|> 	I don't see anything wrong with playing him at catcher.  But I've
|> become resigned to the notion that the Cubs management doesn't want to play
|> him there more then very infrequently.
|> 
The cubs are going to start Villanueva at Catcher on Opening day.

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