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From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Drazen Petrovic
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:21:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.163502.17340@tvnews.tv.tek.com>  
steveu@tasha.tv.tek.com (Steve Ulrich) writes:
> 
> Wow.  Back when Petro was in Portland, the "conventional wisdom"
> was that he would never blossom into a "great NBA shooter" until

Well, the Trailblazers definitely missed the boat, though it's likely that  
he ever would have fit into their game.  But he certainly fits in with the  
Nets.  Now that Anderson is on the warpath, feeding the ball to Drazen has  
become a top priority.  
 
> So how's he doing on defense now?  Great?  Respectable?  Poor?  Opposing 
> guards lighting him up like a Christmas Tree?
> 

Petro still isn't winning any awards for his defensive play.  He still  
gets faked out and ends up sliding around the court like something out of  
a Peanuts cartoon.  But hey, it's all fairly entertaining.  

In all seriousness, he still plays hard on both ends of the floor.  And  
his defense appears to improving slightly.  Chuck Daly can often be seen  
barking out commands to Petro on the defensive end.  If he can't learn to  
play D from Chuck, then he ain't gonna learn it anywhere.  

The other thing that Petro needs to work on is a quicker release on his  
shot.  I'm not sure if this is totally counter to his present shooting  
approach, but it would sure result in a lot less stuffings.  It may also  
have to do with the height from which he releases.  

/jte
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From: markham@brtph597.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Laker woofing (was Re: Laker and Pacific Division woofing)
Keywords: Lakers, Pacific Division
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:18:03 GMT

Vach writes:
>
>Ssssssssstttttt!!  Ooh those Lakers are hot!!!
>I haven't looked at the paper today, so I don't know the standings, but
>aren't the Lakers (nobodies they said) tied with the WORLD CHAMPION CHICAGO
>BULLS (NOT!)
>
>Let me say this.  The Lakers, when they went for their threepeat, looked
>far better than the Bulls look this year.  I think the real strength of
>that Laker team was team respect.  This Bulls team doesn't look that classy.
>I am not talking about whether they are better than that Laker team, whether
>they are better than today's Lakers.  I'm just talking about in-fighting,
>team spirit, team pride, etc.  Of course, they may just be going through
>a slump, so their record looks bad, but what with the squabbles, and such,
>they don't compare in class to the Lakers.
>
>-Vach

See you in May and June (NOT!), Vach.

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: MOOOONSTROUS TRADE!!! (you heard it first!)
Keywords: Jimmy Jackson
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:16:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181516.25134@u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>
>I "heard" that the Rockets will trade Hakeem Olajuwon to Seattle.  Seattle
>will send Gary PAyton to Dallas, Benoit Benjamin and the rights to Doug 
>Christie to Miami, who will send Brian Shaw to Dteroit and Alan Ogg to Dallas.
>Dtroit will send Dennis Rodman to Boston, who will send Xavier Mcdaniel back
>to the Knicks, who will send Charles Oakley to the Clippers for Kiki Vandeweghe
>and the Clips' third-round pick next year.  The pick will be sent to Dallas, 
>and the Knicks will send Anthony MAson and the rights to Carlton McKinney to 
>the Rockets.  Oh yeah, and Miami will get cash and some hair tonic from NY. 
>

well...lesseee

		loses		gaines		
------------------------------------------------------------------------
SEATTLE		Payton		Hakeem		YES!		
		Benjamin
		D.Christie
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DALLAS				Payton		Dallas is probably sick of 
				Ogg		1st rounders by now anyway.
				Clips 93 	They'll probably have 20
				-3rd round	next year anyway as 
						compensation for going 1-81
------------------------------------------------------------------------						
Miami		Ogg		Benoit Benjamin		
		Shaw		D.Christie	
				cash
				hair tonic
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Detroit		Rodman		Brian Shaw	
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boston		McDaniel	Rodman		
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Knicks		Oakeley		X
		Mason		Vandewehghe
		McKinney<-------------------------??????????????????/
		cash
		hair tonic (*riles won't go for it*)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rockets		Hakeem		McKkiney
				Mason					
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clippers 	93' 3rd round	Oakley
		KIKI
------------------------------------------------------------------------

where would the rights to JJ go?


ben "thanks for giving me a reason to procrastinate!! anything is better
than studying for finals!! agh!!"  yau
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From: ashwin@osc (Ashwin Honkan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: A trivia question (and answer)
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:33:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Object Sciences Corp., Redwood City, CA


    A trivia question: Name the 2 players to reach the 5000 pts - 2500 
    assists milestone the fastest in the NBA history. 

    (Hit <Space> for answer.)


    No.1: Oscar Robertson, perhaps the greatest of all time, 247 games
    No.2: Is it Magic "5 rings" Johnson ? No.
	  Is it Isiah "2 rings" Thomas ?  No !
	  Is it Larry "3 rings" Bird ? No !!
	  Is it John "Assists is my middle name" Stockton ? No !!!
	  Is it Kevin Johnson ? Mark Price ? NO !

	  It is Tim Hardaway ! He did it (5405 pts, 2502 asts) in 262 games.
	  Take that, Hardaway-haters and ring-counters !

Ashwin "Heeeere Come The Warriors !" Honkan
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From: jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz)
Subject: Re: Pooh?!?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:19:57 GMT

  The Indiana Pacers placed Pooh Richardson on the IR as he has a pulled
  abdominal muscle. I have no idea when he'll be back, but Vern Fleming has
  picked up the slack and has done well. With Detlef Schrempf now starting
  at small forward the Paces have played well of late. I believe the Pacers
  activated second year guard Sean Green off of IR to take Pooh's place.

-- 
Bear Down, Chicago Bears...Here come the Hawks, the mighty Blackhawks!
"Sex is like politics. You don't have to be good at either one to enjoy it."
-Barry Goldwater.
Repeat-a-Bulls.
From: alanj@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 80's Lakers and 90's Suns: the eerie coincidences
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:23:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <42318@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
> In the tradition of the Lincoln/Kennedy coincidences, here is a
> partial list of eerie coincidences between the 80's Lakers and the
> 90's Suns:
> 
>    - Both are Pacific Division teams
> 
>    - Both have all-star point guards named Johnson
> 
>    - The 80's Lakers were coached by Pat Riley.  The 90's Suns are
>           coached by Paul Westphal.  Riley, a former player, played
>           guard for several teams during his career, including the
>           Lakers.  Westphal, a former player, played guard for 
>           several teams during his career, including the Suns.
>           Riley and Westphal played together on the 1976 Phoenix
>           Suns team that went to the NBA Finals.
> 
>    - Before they were coached by Riley, the 80's Lakers were coached
>           by Paul Westhead.  The similarity of the name "Paul
>           Westhead" to "Paul Westphal" is just too damn bizarre.
> 
>    - The Lakers retired #44 for Jerry WEST, who played guard for the
>           Lakers and later became their General Manager.  The Suns
>           retired #44 for Paul WESTphal, who played guard for the
>           Suns and later returned as an Assistant Coach, and then
>           Head Coach.
> 
>    - Both have General Managers named Jerry (Lakers - West, Suns -
>           Colangelo).  Also, both teams have owners named Jerry
>           (Lakers - Buss,  Suns - Colangelo, who is part owner).
> 
>    - Both play in arenas with "West" in the name - the Great WESTern
>           Forum, and America WEST Arena.
> 
> There's more, but you get the idea.  Feel free to add your own.  :^)
> 
> 
> Tony


Sorry to be rude but . . .  GET A LIFE! 
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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Re: Tark is fired
Keywords: spurs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:32:52 GMT

In article <BzHDFK.8DD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz) writes:
|>     ESPN just announced on SportsCenter that Jerry Tarkaninan has been
|>     fired by San Antonio.  ESPN interviewed Tark and he said he wrote a
|>     letter to Spurs owner Red McCombs that the team needed to get a point
|>     guard badly.  He also said there was a difference of expectations between
|>     the two, but that the parting was amiable.  No word on who will be the
|>     coach tonight vs. Dallas.
|>        Frankly I thought Tark was in over his head when he took thhe job.
|>        Injuries have hurt the Spurs, especially losing Terry Cummings. He
|>        also said the losing got to him; that his blood pressure was rising
|>        and he was worried about his health.  This is not the first time 
|>        McCombs has been involved in some controversy; I recall last year
|>        David Robinson wrote him a letter pleading for the team to get 
|>        its own plane like the Bulls to ease the travel burden.

I think that this is really unfair.  Tark has had only two months to
show what he can do, and you've got to expect an adjustment time
going from college to the pros.

At the time, Tark was hired, he was taking over a good team, but
circumstances beyond his control have destroyed the team.  I don't
know how you can blame those things on him.

The Spurs inexplicably let Rod Strickland go.  Though he wasn't the
best point guard in the world, he's a lot better than anything they've
got.  Season-ending injuries to Terry Cummings and Willie Anderson
were terrible blows.  Under those circumstances, how good did
McCombs expect the Spurs to be?

By the way, assistant coach Rex Hughes has taken over as the interim
head coach.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bad Boys win again guys!
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:55:45 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: turkey.sw.stratus.com

In article <sf9vway00Uh7I6bmB1@andrew.cmu.edu>, bf25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian Austin Fraze) writes:
> For all you Piston bashers, they took care of the big, bad, Shq attack
> last night, and Cleveland will be next. SHUT UP!!!!!!  


	Big deal. So did the previous 4 or 5 teams that played the Magic before
the Pistons. Orlando has come back to earth after their fast start. Shaq is a
great player, but as a team Orlando still has a ways to go. They don't play very
good defense, as a team. Other than Shaq, they don't have any other strong
rebounders, so more and more teams are pulling their centers out to the
perimeter to open up the lane. I know the Celtics did that earlier this week.
Detroit, with Laimbeer shooting skills, is probably the team best suited to
this strategy.

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From: dbrus.Unify.Com.bobf@unify.uucp (Bob Feldcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Michigan B-ball
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: dbrus.Unify.Com.bobf@unify.uucp (Bob Feldcher)
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA

Does anyone have a list of players currently in the NBA that 
either played High School or college b-ball in Michigan.

My guess is the list is pretty extensive.
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Who are the tallest point guards?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:39:29 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec18.161356.5504@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gyuwono@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gunawan Yuwono) writes:
>In article <BzGnIB.u8@cs.columbia.edu> robin@cs.columbia.edu (Jacques Robin) wr
>ites:
>>
>>Now that Magic retired for good I'd like to know who
>>are the tallest point guards in the NBA.
>
>
>How about Steve Smith of Miami Heats ? I think he is around 6-7.

Well, here are the heights of the primary PGs for most teams...
(note: sorry if I list someone who isn't the primary... )
(also note: this is the listed heights in the TSN Register.. Complain to them
is you don't agree...)

Atlanta: 	Mookie Blaylock		6'00"
Boston:	 	Dee Brown		6'01"
	 	Sherman Douglas		6'00"
Charlotte:	Muggsy Bogues		5'03"
Chicago:	John Paxson		6'02
		B.J. Armstrong		6'02"
Cleveland:	Mark Price		6'01"
		Terrell Brandon		6'00"
Dallas:		Mike Iuzzolino???	????
Denver:		Chris Jackson		6'01"
Detroit:	Isiah Thomas		6'01"
Golden State:	Tim Hardaway		6'00"
Houston:	Kenny Smith		6'03"
Indiana:	Pooh Richardson		6'01"
		Vern Fleming		6'05"
LAClippers:	Mark Jackson		6'03"
LALakers:	Sedale Threatt		6'02"
Miami:		Bimbo Coles		6'01"
		Brian Shaw		6'06"
		Steve Smith		6'07"
Milwaukee:	Erik Murdock		6'02"
		Alvin Robertson		6'04"
Minnesota:	Michael Williams	6'02"
NJNets:		Kenny Anderson		6'02"
NYKnicks:	Greg Anthony		6'02"
		Doc Rivers		6'04"
Orlando:	Scott Skiles		6'01"
Philadelphia:	Jeff Hornacek		6'04"
		Greg Grant		5'07"
Phoenix:	Kevin Johnson		6'02"
		Negele Knight		6'02"
Portland:	Terry Porter		6'03"
		Rod Strickland		6'03"
Sacramento:	Spud Webb		5'07"
San Antonio:	Vinnie Del Negro	????
Seattle:	Gary Payton		6'04"
Utah:		John Stockton		6'01"
Washington:	Michael Adams		5'11"

So, from this list, Steve Smith would be the tallest, followed by Brian Shaw
(both on the same team), the Vern Fleming, and then tied in 4th with
Alvin Robertson, Doc Rivers, Jeff Hornacek, and Gary Payton.. of which, 
only Gary is a pure point guard (the other three have played off-guard as
well)  The shortest is, of course, Muggsy, Spud, and Gary Grant..
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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 80's Lakers and 90's Suns: the eerie coincidences
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:44:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.42470
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec11.142359.61950@cc.usu.edu> alanj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Sorry to be rude but . . .  GET A LIFE! 


I'm amazed by the number of hostile follow-ups this thread has
generated.  Am I the only one who finds this slightly amusing?

Tony
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From: bill@neocad.com (Bill Bentley)
Subject: Re: VERNON MAXWELL
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:04:22 GMT


>	Please help settle a bet.  What college did the Rocket's Vernon Maxwell
>play for?  I say Florida State my friend says U. Florida Gators. Which one is 
>
>                Rob
	
Sorry you loose, he went to U. Florida Gators.

Bill B.
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:23:26 -0500 
From: Myung Joon Choi <mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Question.L
	<1992Dec14.024102.16024@coe.montana.edu>

In article <1992Dec11.222857.6000@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (I
acurto Paul) writes:
>
> Some of the best dunkers in the NBA are:
>Jordan
>Wilkins
>Kemp
>L.Johnson
>Starks
>D.Brown
>
>Question:
>Geniticaly speaking, to negroes possess more spring in their legs
>than caucasians?
>o

    What kind of question is that!?  Have you ever seen Rex Chapman, Tom
Chambers, Tom Gugliotta, and Dan Majerlie play in the NBA?  They can all
sky.  So can Rex Walters of Kansas University.  I think your question
borders on the tip of racism.  I hope, for your sake, that you were not
in your best senses when you posted this message.  
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From: tdexte16@ursa.calvin.edu (Terrence Dexter)
Subject: Nyk-det game question.
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:56:07 GMT


		  I was wondering if anyone who's reading this saw the nyk-det
game this Saturday.  Rodman "stuffed" Ewing on one of the more critical
plays.  To me it seemed like there might have been goal tending, but
the Detroit announcers were obviously biased.  Anyways, they called it 
a good play.
		  What I was wondering was can a rejected slam be called for goal
tending?  If so, how?  And if so, also, was this play a goal tend.
		  I always thought that it was impossible to call a rejected slam
a goal tend, because there is no "arc."  But I was watching a previous
Piston's game where the Piston's got a call on the opposing team for
goal tending on a slam.
		  Just Curious.

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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: BOXSCORE pho17orl17.11dec92
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:56:28 GMT


pho 108, orl 107   11dec92

DNP: orl - reynolds,jerry(CD)
           Kerr,steve(CD)
           kite,greg(CD)

Techical Fouls: ainge,danny(?? 2nd)
                barkley,charles(?? 2nd)
                anderson,nick(2:41 3rd)

pho (13- 4)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
barkley,charles   41   5  16   1  4   7  9   2 11   4  0  2  2  0  1  0  0   18
ceballos,cedric   20   4   7   0  0   3  5   3  6   1  2  1  4  0  0  0  0   11
west,mark         13   1   1   0  0   1  2   0  1   1  3  1  0  1  0  0  0    3
knight,negele     28   3  10   0  0   0  0   3  3   5  3  2  2  0  0  0  0    6
majerle,dan       40   8  18   3  9   3  5   2  4   2  2  4  3  0  0  0  0   22
miller,oliver     19   2   3   0  0   1  2   1  6   4  5  1  1  0  0  0  0    5
ainge,danny       37   6  10   4  6   0  0   2  7   9  3  0  4  0  1  0  0   16
johnson,frank     16   0   2   0  0   0  0   0  2   0  3  0  1  0  0  0  0    0
chambers,tom      26  11  20   0  0   5  8   4  5   2  4  2  1  1  0  0  0   27
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pho totals       240  40  87   8 19  20 31  17 45  28 25 13 18  2  2  0  0  108
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .460   .421   .645       team rebs  8

orl ( 8- 9)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
turner,jeff       20   3   5   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  5  0  1  0  0  0  0    6
scott,dennis      37   7  17   1  4   2  2   0  4   2  4  1  3  1  0  0  0   17
o'neal,shaquille  38  10  18   0  0   6 10   6 17   0  3  2  5  4  0  0  0   26
anderson,nick     36   6  14   0  1   4  4   1  6   7  4  2  2  2  1  0  0   16
skiles,scott      36   5   9   0  2   3  4   0  2  12  3  0  4  0  0  0  0   13
tolbert,tom       25   2   5   0  0   3  4   3  7   1  4  1  0  0  0  0  0    7
green,litterial   12   5   6   0  0   2  4   0  0   5  1  0  0  0  0  0  0   12
royal,donald      21   3   4   0  0   4  5   1  4   0  3  2  2  2  0  0  0   10
bowie,anthony     15   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  2   1  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
orl totals       240  41  79   1  7  24 33  11 43  28 28  8 18  9  1  0  0  107
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .519   .143   .727       team rebs  9

pho   27  35  20  26  -  108
orl   20  36  28  23  -  107

attendance 15151, time 2:21, officials: DGarretson,BAlexander,TBernhardt
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: VERNON MAXWELL
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:41:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.221325.21804@jmb2.jmb.com> lewism@jmb2.jmb.com (Mike Lewis) writes:
>Robert L Mckernan (mckernan@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: 	Please help settle a bet.  What college did the Rocket's Vernon Maxwell
>: play for?  I say Florida State my friend says U. Florida Gators. Which one is 
>: it?  Thanks alot.
>: 			Rob
>: 
>
>Florida.  He played with Andrew Moten, Dwayne Schintzius, and Livingston
>Chatman on a pretty good team.

Florida.  And, his name is still mud down here as his statements were
key in the scandal that got his coach fired and the  N.C.A.A. down on
the University.
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Subject: Re: 85-86 Celtics vs 91-92 Bulls.g
From: bcimmet@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:38:00 EST
 <1992Dec15.055101.4874@cc.umontreal.ca> <1gll6mINNppj@mozz.unh.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wesleyan University

> In article <1992Dec15.055101.4874@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:

>>I am missing several players on the 85-86 Celts roster.
>>
>>92 BULLS                        86 CELTICS
>>Coach: Phil Jackson             Coach: ??
>>
>>PG: John Paxson                 PG: ??
>>SG: Michael Jordan              SG: ??
>>C : Bill Cartwright             C : Robert Parrish
>>SF: Scottie Pippen              SF: Larry Bird
>>PF: Horace Grant                PF:
>>
>>Bench:
>>BJ Armstrong                    Bill Walton
>>Scott Williams                  Kevin McHale
>>Cliff Levingston
>>Will Perdue
>>Craig Hodges
>>Stacy King

The Celtics of 85-86 had the following team:

PG: Dennis Johnson
SG: Danny Ainge
C:  Robert Parish
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Kevin McHale

Bench:
Bill Walton
Jerry Sichting
Scott Wedman
Greg Kite
Rick Carlisle
David Thirdkill
Sam Vincent

Coach: K.C. Jones
Trainer: Ray Melchiorre
Asst. Coaches: Jimmy Rogers & Chris Ford (I think...)


If you're a Macintosh user, you might be interested in a piece of software I
have that can simulate games, such as the 85-86 Celtics against the 91-92
Bulls. If you're interested, I could perhaps send it to you through email?

	- Medford

BCIMMET@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: 86 Celtics v. 92 Bulls
From: bcimmet@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 20 Dec 92 13:43:46 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In regards to the questions involving the 91-92 Bulls and the 85-86 Celtics, I
went home and used a statistical program I have for my computer that can
simulate games between any teams. I had it play 100 games between the 92 Bulls
and the 86 Celtics. Bulls won the series 54-46. Jordan averaged about 27 ppg.
Others for the Bulls were Pippen, 20 ppg, Grant, 13, Armstrong, 8, Paxson,5.
Those were the top scorers. For the Celtics, Bird 22, McHale, 21, Parish 16,
Johnson 13, Walton 6. The stats that came out aren't precise to the season
stats for any of the players simply because these were games just between these
two teams. If anyone would like any other simulations, please let me know; I
love playing with that game. Either email me at BCIMMET@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU or
post requests here.

- Medford