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From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SIS: Sisters - any viewers in R.A.T.S.
Keywords: YES
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:46:04 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <kim.4.721070794@agx.usu.edu> kim@agx.usu.edu (Kim Barnard) writes:
>
>I'm glad there are other Sisters fans out there.  I was beginning to think 
>I was the only one in the world that watched it!

You're certainly not alone!  I love the show and my SO enjoys it, too.
My sister-in-law just adores it -- she has 3 sisters (all their names
start with "D").

As for ratings, it's doing pretty well of late.  The four women who
play the sisters were on Phil Donahue last Monday (as much as I loathe
Phil, I suffered through him to watch the show).  They said that the
ratings are slowly but surely improving, and it seems to have found
its audience.  They also have good demographics, so NBC is solidly
behind the show.

Julianne Phillips and Sela Ward brought their own sisters along for
the show, and Patricia Kalember and Swoosie Kurtz brought their best
friends, since they don't have sisters of their own.  It was pretty
interesting, especially that Julianne Phillips is 6-1/2 years younger
than her sister, so the "baby of the family" stuff was there for her,
just like her character, Frankie.  Sela Ward and her sister (Jenna)
were both models (if Sela Ward weren't so nice I'd hate her -- she
must be the most gorgeous woman alive) but never felt competitive,
just like Teddy isn't competitive about anything.  Of the four, only
Patricia Kalember (Georgie, who of course is the only one of the four
with small children) has kids.

The four of them work together extremely well and have enormous
respect for each other.  They genuinely appeared to be very good
friends as well as co-workers.

And there's no mistaking that Sela Ward and her sister are related.
They have the same voice!  If the camera wasn't on them, I honestly
couldn't tell which one was speaking.

-- Marisa


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From: roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco)
Subject: Re: B&B: Wednesday inaction
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:29:44 GMT
Summary: Taylor's do, and Macy & Thorne - did they 'do it'?

In article <1992Nov5.181256.21473@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Hubanks) writes:
> 	Taylor is in tears (fairly good emotive skills here)
> wishing she hadn't let Ridge and Brooke tour together.  
> Stephanie tells her not to blame herself, but to
> blame Brooke.  I don't want to lose him!  an anguished
> Taylor cries.
> 

What did Taylor do to her hair???? I hope she didn't cut it!


> I'm married to him, Karen, and this morning I gave Thorne
> what a married man needs!  Wha wha wha what?  Karen says,
> but Macy deigns not to go into blow-by-slow explicit,
> excruciating, exciting, exhilirating details and 
> gets out of the office.  Karen is clearly seeing that her 
> position is precarious as we exeunt.
> 

But Macy and Thorne didn't really do the horizontal bop together, did they?
In your update yesterday you said Thorne walked out ... at least I *thought*
that's what you said ...
So Karen will confront Thorne and he'll tell her the truth and they'll be back
to square 1, right?

I disliked Caroline intensely, and I dislike Karen even more .... she's a
conniving scheming whining interfering immature bitch IMHO and deserves to end
up with Ridge!
Not that I see Thorne as any prize, either ...

>      Tune in tomorrow, when we could possibly hear Stephanie
> say:
>      "Felicia, I've got an idea.  Why don't you call up that
> nice boy you used to date -- what was his name?  Jake
> something?"

;-)    'Twould be interesting to have Jake back ...

>      jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
> 
Rita
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From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #4 Answers
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:31:25 GMT

In article <1don5vINN7j1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ae361@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sonya Paetzel) writes:


>I didn't think Lily went to college.  She got involved 
>with Dusty and then that crazy guy and then she ran
>away....when she came back she just started working.
>When did she have time to go to college?

While she was with Dusty, she enrolled in College. I never said she graduated
from college, just that she had enrolled and picked a major. While she was
married to Derek, she was still enrolled in college, but after her and 
Derek's "enchanted cottage" blew up (bomb set by Derek and his father), she
ran away. When she returned, her college plans were history, and she was an
aspiring business woman. My question is, is there a University that actually
has Hotel and Restaurant Management as a major??

Irish
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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL: In Defense of Carly
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:32:49 GMT

In article <1d9tnpINNq27@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt) writes:

>Chrystal(l) said she tried to pattern the scene after 9 1/2 Weeks.  Correct?
>I haven't heard anyone say that they necesarrily had any problem with that.
>
>However, there was virtually no resemblance to that movie.  Instead, it
>ended up resembling the rape scene from The Accused, which took place
>on a pool table in the back room of a bar.


To *you* it resembled the scene in The Accused.  It made *you* [and
granted, a few others] think of that movie.  That is *your* perception,
and I'm sorry, but your PROBLEM.  Yes, I do think there is something
wrong if you cannot tell the difference.  


>I have no problem with "kinky" sex (in fact, it can be a lot of fun *wink*).

Back at ya!  ;-)


>What I do have a problem with is the representation of a scene/place that
>has come to represent the scene of a very violent crime.


Ok, The Accused was a very popular movie.  But I hesitate to say that
it pervaded our culture enough to make the scene of a bar a necessarily
violent place.  Come on!  Look at all the murder movies [like Friday
the 13th] that chop people up in the woods.  Are the woods a violent
place?  Many movie rapes have been shown in a car.  Are all cars now
"rape scenes" first, and vehicles second?  You've taken this way too
far.


>I also have a real problem with Chrystal(l)'s common sense if she doesn't
>realize that a sex scene on a pool table is going to come across as very
>similar to The Accused.
>Beth


How about a sex scene on the floor of someone's home?  Is that OK with 
you?  Well, it shouldn't be, because in Extremities Farrah Fawcett's 
character was almost raped on the floor of her living room.  Just how
far are we going to take this here?  

I'm sorry if this sounds like a flame.  And kudos to Susan H. for
pointing out a lot of things I didn't address here.  Hey folks, so
Carly is pretty bad, no one is saying she isn't right now.  But no
single person is all bad, or all good for that matter.  Like Jeff
said, there are plenty of things to belittle Carly about.  We really
don't have to fabricate.  Oh, and I loved the "witch hunt" reference.
Let's not make Salem 1992 like the Salem of 1692!!!

Tim  
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From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:24:10 GMT
Organization: RAND

Jean, great update.  You seemed to catch it all.  I just wanted to
add a couple editorial comments.

>Gina, Lionel and Lilly show up, and Gina asks CC if maybe he's taking it
>out on Lilly because of her. Lilly excuses herself to go to the bathroom
>(yes, someone actually said the word "bathroom") and overhears Lisa
>tell Rich on the phone that "Maybe Lilly used the old trick 'oops, I'm
>pregnant' on Ted" to get him to marry her.

  The wording Lisa used implied that Lisa used this trick too (which we
  know but Lilly sure doesn't).  So a little bell is starting to ring
  in Lilly's head.

>At Skylar's, Reese discovers Jodie there, waking up from a bad hangover.
>She says she remembers someone singing off key. Eventually she remembers
>enough detail such as Skylar's celibacy, Carla, and the drink she threw
>at her. BJ is amused, and goes off to get dressed for the trial. Reese
>figures that since she had been drinking, she came on to Skylar. He gives
>her the tried and true hangover remedy (pretty funny - a wild drink with
>tabasco sauce and standing on her head and being twirled by Reese) and
>BJ is further amused. 

 This whole bit was great.  Though Jodie wakes up clothed in her
 red dress with Skylar nowhere around, Reese acts like he can't believe
 nothing happened between those two, especially since he know how she
 gets when she's loaded.  Jodie slowly remembered things, a bit here
 and a bit there.  First she remembers someone singing off key.  Later
 she laughs in surprise when she realizes it was her own singing.  Reese
 genuinely (not sarcastic) laughs at her, "no, you weren't singing?"
 Then she tells him about Skylar being celibate, and Reese laughs that
 that's a great line, he'll have to try it sometime.  Jodie then looks
 at Reese ~seductively and says, "I've got to have it and only you can
 give it to me" as she hangs on his collar.  So the next scene is him
 giving her the magic hangover cure.  Great setup.

 BJ popped in and out and wasn't there for all the conversation.

>Reese and Jodie, back at the cabin, reminisce and actually kiss. Things
>are looking better there, but not patched up totally. Jodie also understands
>about Andi's problems when Reese says she went to the hospital.

Nice kiss and conversation.  She comes out after showering and dressing,
trying to zip her tight pants.  Reese asks why she always wears those
pants if she has so much trouble with them, and she says because he
likes the way they hug her butt.  That's when they kiss.

Toodles, it's time to do some work (gasp!).

Pat
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From: woo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Zena Lee)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Little Miss Paranoid Tess
Followup-To:  ATWT:
Summary: Oldest running show????
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:01:45 GMT
Expires: Wed, 25 Nov 1992 06:00:00 GMT

In article <1djlpfINNqi6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ae361@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sonya Paetzel) writes:
>

What I don't understand is why don't
>soaps do stories that relate to their problems (ie,
>spouse dying, having to be dependent on their children,
>having to deal with friends getting sick or dying, etc).
>ATWT is one of the better shows where that is concerned
>(ie, retirement center, Nancy and Mac, etc) but I 
>think they could do more with it.  Does anyone
>have any ideas regarding this?
>####

Definitely!  ATWT is one of the longest running shows in t.v. broadcast.  My
grandmother watched; my best friend's grandmother still watches.  Because the
show has been around since the 1950s, many, many, many older viewers are
still lurking and have been for many years.  You absolutely right....  The
writers and producers should be sensitive to this fact.  I am. and I'm in my
late 20s.

dadadadadadada....... Netwoman
From: 22302LMK@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Not another battered Woman!!!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:11:58 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

Well I really felt for Andie when Ken beat her up, but I thought that she would
have some sense and press charges, especially after Reese brings Ken into the
hospital. I just hope the Andie doesn't let ken use her yet again to prove his
being a "man" by beating her up.

I don't really think that Andie gives a rat's ass about getting her hands on
Sophia's money anymore. I just think she wants out.

I wonder if Reese will spill the beans to Sophia or make Ken sweat it out     l
awhile.

Lisa
From: mcastle@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marjorie Castle)
Subject: Re: DOOL: In Defense of Carly
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 02:27:24 GMT

In article <Nov.5.00.56.00.1992.15001@gandalf.rutgers.edu> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan) writes:
>bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt) writes:
>
>>However, there was virtually no resemblance to that movie.  Instead, it
>>ended up resembling the rape scene from The Accused, which took place
>>on a pool table in the back room of a bar.

[stuff deleted here and elsewhere]
>
>Sorry.  In the Accused, Jodie foster's character was gang raped on a
>pinball machine.  Not seduced by her fiance on a pool table.  There
>was absolutely nothing in that scene that resembled The Accused.
>Jodie was held down against her will and raped by strangers on a
>pinball machine.  Bo and Carly made love to each other in a poolroom/bar.
>

>-- 
>Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
>Publications Coordinator - User Services
>Rutgers University Computing Services

Susan, I agree with just about all that you've been saying in this and
similar posts about the pool-table scene.  (Although the r.a.t.s.
righteous indignation over this scene was somewhat more entertaining
than the scene itself. :^)

But, in all fairness to those who were bringing up the rape scene in
"The Accused", they did have good reason for being reminded of it.
There was an actual gang-rape at a bar (some town in New England?)
on a pool-table a few years before.  Big story, in all the newspapers,
and I believe it inspired the movie in part.  (I don't think I was
reminded of it when I saw the DOOL scene, but then I was fast-forwarding
and probably reading something at the time.)

Marjorie Castle
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From: reddy@88opensi.88open.ORG (Wasavika Reddy)
Subject: Re: SB: Do you know who killed Frank?
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:50:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.001704.2183@u.washington.edu>, dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias ) writes:
> 
  Stuff Deleted----

>   BJ and Frank were struggling on the mesa and they dropped the gun.  Dolly
>   (insert favorite silly soap opera reason for people being where they're
>   not suppose to be here) followed BJ, saw the struggle, picked up the gun, shot
>   Frank, dashed back to the diner in time to whip out a couple of burgers to
>   go.  BJ, in a daze, picks up the gun (who wouldn't) and, naturally, takes
>   it back to the motel room and gives it a bath.  How's that for neat and tidy?
>   -Vivian

   Vivian, That is the best explanation I've heard so far - I was
   wondering how Dolly could have shot him and got gunpowder residue
   on BJ's dress. But, there's one little thing - Frank was found
   slumped over the wheel of his Jeep.

   Wasavika
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From: renees@hplsla.hp.com (Renee Slocumb)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 05:26:25 GMT
Subject: Re: GH: Scotty and other stuff
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
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/ hplsla:rec.arts.tv.soaps / njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera) /  2:18 pm  Oct 26, 1992 /
     
stuff deleted

|> out of this lying thing, yet he rarely tells the truth. It's funny to me
|> how I am defending Jenny (who I really don't care that much for), and you
|> are defending dimples. I thought it would be the other way around...you
|> know man takes up for man, woman takes up for woman <g>.
|> 
|> > I still don't understand why Jenny lied about it.  Ned never asked her
|> 
|> Me either. 
|> 
|> Mike
|> 

>Neither do I. 


I was hoping as the story line unfolds we'll understand more-  I have a
couple of I'd like to see's - 

Maybe Jenny didn't really have a miscarriage and she really had the child,
could her real child have been a girl around 7-8 (Pauls daughter whom he
may have adopted?)  Or even a boy around that age (Sly -or is he older?)
that Bill and the witch ex-dead-wife Nancy adoped.  Which might have
explained why she never had a real maternal feel for him.

I know they're both unrealistic, but I would like to see how they would
handle either of these situations.

Renee
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From: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: GH: Lila
Reply-To: jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:47:24 GMT

Nice article in the Nov. 7-13 TV Guide re Anna Lee (Lila Q) getting a star on
the Hollywood Walk Of Fame (half a century after starring in "How Green Was
My Valley"--the 1941 Best Picture Oscar winner).
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: LOV:  Update - WED 04 NOV & AMC crossoverings...
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:22:33 GMT

In article <25a6TB4w161w@cdthq.UUCP> mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris) writes:
>gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:

Re: Jeremy's potential Romance:

>Nahhh, bet it'll be with Dinahlee. They're already semi-close. Tho I'd like 
>to see Shana find a nice guy....

Interestingly enough, if "Trevor" decides to crossover too, (I know from
yall that he was already there and interacted with Shana once already,
isn't that true), and since he and Jeremy are "best friends", it is
likely (I guess he'd have to be divorced from Natalie tho on AMC, and
those guys have been on and off for years now - but are finally on -
Shana is his real-life wife so I'm sure the "chemistry" would be there
for them!

CAZ
From: njs@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Lizard and Jenn spin the wheel
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:34:13 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

In article <1992Nov12.192231.26586@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
>Didn't you guys see Micheal Sabatino and Melissa Reeves on Wheel of
>Fortune this week? Jenn bombed out (no money) and Lizard won once. They
>were on separate days. I think Jenn was on Monday night, and Larry was on
>Tuesday. Jenn had this sorta glazed over look in her eyes. It was as if
>she was mesmerized by the spinning wheel and all the pretty colors and
>lights and stuff <g>.
>
>Mike
>
  I caught both of them (but here in La-La land since it's on the same
  station as MNF - it was delayed a day (ie Tues and Wed) )

Tangy

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From: EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: DOOL: Patsy Pease as a Playboy Bunny?
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:25:28 PST

As a public service to the Kim lusters out there (and I know you
know who you are), I just wanted to let you know that Patsy Pease
is on the cover on the December 1992 Soap Opera Illustrated dressed
as a Playboy bunny, complete with black fishnet stockings.

(For the non-Kim lovers, there's a picture of Matt Ashford with
Colleen Dion on page 45.)
**Razzie 
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From: ajs@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (AJ Schricker)
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN:Family Motto
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:09:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA


Our family motto was:

    MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       O__       __O
      /|           |\
      / \         / \
   He did it!  She did it!


-aj ;-)
From: alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: The Count's Pants :)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 08:24:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


>Subject: Re: AMC: Thursday Update 11/5
>From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
>
>This was all ever so over-done with them wearing these
>costumes, like it was the most normal thing in the world
>to do but I gotta say, it was perfect.  I wish men still
>wore pants like that!

I read somewhere that Michael Nadar was in his late 40s.  I must 
admit, he looks a LOT better in those pants than Jackson would!
Isn't Walt Willey about the same age?  [He was looking a bit 
pudgy in those bedroom scenes with Angelique!]

Now, if we could just figure out a way to make Tad a count and 
dress HIM in that outfit... :-)


Alex
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From: girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Quick SUmmary for Thursday 11/12/92
Date: 13 Nov 1992 21:16:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <1992Nov13.174316.29733@tronsbox.xei.com> trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish) writes:
>
>Gloria finds out that Enid Nelson is creating a stink (including
>distributing brochures) regarding the AIDS hospice.  <Apparently the
>Hospital has taken over a building nearby to make the AIDS hospice and
>Enid isn't happy.  She is using all the myths about AIDS to help her


The best part of this is Gloria
kept referring to Enid as
THAT COW....
It was pretty funny.......

Mary

Oh yeah and thanks for taking over in an emergency!!
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