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From: WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS)
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...I was sitting in German class following a lunchtime discussion about some
English guys with long (!) hair who'd met the Queen.  My most vivid menory is
that the no-necked, burr-headed kraut sitting across from me leaned over and
said, "You know what this means, don't you?", and I foolishly replied, "No,
I don't...what?"  He said, "It means that son of a bitch Johnson is
president..."

JMW
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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: God and Dowsing
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In article <2afea49b.cursci@cursci.UUCP> Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK> writes:
>Well, *some* proponents of dowsing water with twigs attempt scientific
>explanations to do with magnetic flows and stuff (one I heard was that
>a muscle in the back magnified a magnetic discontinuity between left
>and right sides into a small muscle movement, which the carefully-held
>twig amplified into a noticable movement).  Not a theory I agree with,

Wierd, dowsing is. I've been mucking about with "bottling" (looking for
old bottles in out of the way places), and some of the local 
vets at it swear that dowsing works. They practice it to find where
the ground has been disturbed. I saw a demonstration (to thin wires
purchased at any hardware), and there seems to be something to it. Some
area farmers I mentioned this to were surprised at my surprise, and they
claimed that many of them use it when digging to determine where old
water pipes or other underground problems might occur. Apparently
not everybody can do it. My bottling partner's partner is quite adept.
He and I are not.

Jim (like a bird on two thin wires) Thomas

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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nov. 22, 1963
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>This weekend, a friend who's 48 or so, was making a big deal of the fact that
>for the first time, the president is *older* than her.  She found it rather
>disconcerting, she said.  Any wordslers feeling the same way?

	Of course, you meant *younger*, Rashmi.  Every President has been older
	than me, but Bill is only 4 years ahead.

	Having a President my junior wouldn't be as disconcerting as would
	having no baseball players older than I am -- all hail Nolan Ryan,
	Carlton Fisk, and Charlie Hough!

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>Gosh, these old people did get impressed by some pretty weak-minded stuff,
>didn't they?
>
>tushar

Bichabum! It was an intellectually stimulating pastime.... It also may help
to explain why the average age of this list is higher than other lists.
People of my generation are more familiar with the use of 'words' to express
meaning rather than 'cliched invectives'.

Carolyn
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I admit, I am one too.  I always thought it was just a country-boy
affliction, and not something so widely shared.  When I see one --
my opportunities are infrequent, if you leave out the local one,
which ain't bad for a mid-sized uni town -- I have these oceanic
feelings.  Not orgasmic surely (though I confess, I usually do get
a little hard), but more like a sudden transport of civic aspiration.
Just eighty miles from here is Cincinnati, and approaching it from
the south on I-75, you are descending a series of hills, and suddenly
there it *is*, almost as if you could reach out and somehow participate
in it.

Postcard views of skylines are a reasonable surrogate for me.  When
I visit a city -- Seattle last May or Providence in July, say -- I'll buy
up a bunch of cards, but usually in duplicate, so that for every one
I send out, I'll have the same view to hoard for some future furtive
thrill.

Send me a skyline card (Brad Grissom, 2024 New Orleans, Lexington KY
40505) and I'll reciprocate with a Lexington or a Louisville.  Please
include return address and indicate if statehouses are a turn-on for
you.

--brad
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Date: 6 Nov 92 03:40:15 GMT
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> Out of curiosity, what was everyone else doing on that day?

I had just left Millsaps (College) Singers and was walking with a group
of friends in front of the Student Union on our way to lunch when Earl
Stubblefield told us.  That moment will be vivid in my memory forever.

(I think we went through this thread last November, didn't we?  But
that's ok.  It deserves annual revisiting.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Tony @ Brownvm" <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help on a word?
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Posted on 12 Nov 1992 at 12:20:55 by leah

>Sorry Tony."Self-hating Jews"is not a term most of us apply to those Jews who
>are anti-Israel or non-Zionists, or who criticise Israeli policies and
> practices."Self-hating Jews"is a term used to describe those Jews who
>use stereotypic ideas and expressions in describing the behavior and attitudes
>of other Jews.

Perhaps it's just that your (quite reasonable and understandable) usage
is not much heard by non Jews.  I think of it as a special phrase
used of dissident Jews like I. F. Stone and Noam Chomsky who fail to toe
the party line wrt Israel.  Of course in either usage, the same
behaviour by a non Jew would be called anti-Semitic.

Tony H.
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WHTMINYC Part 6
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	Ah, G, you know de gustibus . . . and all that.  But how long do you
	think it will be before she gets the point and begins to argue about
	shifting meanings?

	Michael E. Macmillan

Either hell will freeze over, or she'll realise about the r in rural,
before she ever notices.  Mark my words.  I'll probably get a snitty
letter this evening asking me to explain :-)

G
From: PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier)
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Date: 6 Nov 92 01:32:41 GMT
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>     But the best I know is taking a ferry into Seattle at night, as the great
>gleaming skyline slowly looms closer to closer, as the ferry slowly enters into
>the embrace of the harbor, the lights of Ballard stretching around you to the
>north, and West Seattle to the south, all of it twinkling in reflection off the
>sound....
>
>     And if there is a full moon..

Ummm...well, compare that with taking the ferry in on a clear
*day*, when Mount Ranier hangs in the sky, with no visible
means of support...Brad, do you remember? :-)

>                  blomberg cepeda     st402747@brownvm
judith
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Libertarian (and other) numbers
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It appears that Marrou got only around 0.5% of the votes cast, and barely beat
out Lenora Fullani.

rashmi

>From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
> Bill Clinton, Dem 43,688,671 - 43 percent
> George Bush, GOP (i) 38,109,410 - 37 percent
> Ross Perot, Ind 19,089,432 - 19 percent
> Andrew Marrou, Oth 278,528 - 0 percent
> Lenora Fulani, Oth 211,742 - 0 percent
> Bo Gritz, Oth 97,601 - 0 percent
> John Hagelin, Oth 44,521 - 0 percent
> Howard Phillips, Oth 39,391 - 0 percent
> James Mac Warren, Oth 27,464 - 0 percent
> Lyndon LaRouche, Oth 25,688 - 0 percent
> Ron Daniels, Oth 25,404 - 0 percent
> Drew Bradford, Oth 4,605 - 0 percent
> Jack Herer, Oth 3,452 - 0 percent
> Helen Halyard, Oth 3,068 - 0 percent
> J. Quinn Brisben, Oth 2,789 - 0 percent
> None of These, Oth 2,525 - 0 percent
> John Yiamouyiannis, Oth 2,316 - 0 percent
> Honest Jim Boren, Oth 980 - 0 percent
> Earl Dodge, Oth 953 - 0 percent
> Delbert Ehlers, Oth 876 - 0 percent
> Eugene Hem, Oth 395 - 0 percent
> Isabell Masters, Oth 395 - 0 percent
> Robert Smith, Oth 290 - 0 percent
> Gloria La Riva, Oth 178 - 0 percent
From: gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Camille Paglia
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:54:11 GMT
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I didn't know anything about this women you've been talking about lately
(except that she's an occassional poster to soc.bi whose name I vaguely
recognised) - but I saw her on your 60 Minutes tonight and I have to say
what I saw I liked...  there was very little she said I disagree with.

Anyone know the titles of her books?

G
From: gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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: >At this point I only want to make a couple of clarifications. First, I don't
: >think that anyone would want Ruth to condone that which she cannot. The depth
: >of her faith is obvious, and deserves our respect. The question posed by the

: Thanks.  I was beginning to wonder if rationality had gone out the window.

I let that one by the first time because I thought I'd said enough, but
this is getting beyond a joke.  Do either of you two even understand the
meaning of the word rationality?

If I understand what you're saying right (and I hope to God I'm wrong),
you think someone deserves respect on the *strength* of their faith,
regardless of the details of its contents?

If someone is totally convinced that God has told them to go out and
kill prostitutes, that deserves respect?

If a senior police officer instruct his force to harrass homosexuals
because they are "drowning in a cess-pit of their own making", and
claims he is doing this under direct instructions fro God, that
deserves respect?

If Muslim fundamentalists want to kill a British author because of
their faith, that deserves respect?


If Adolf Hitler kills millions of Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies and
mentally retarded people because of his total faith in the racial
purity of the Ayrian nation, that deserves respect?

I think not.

G
From: tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>I'm not quite sure I understand this...what is "makes accusations of being
><something>"...makes 'pretensions' of being s.t. I can see, but what does
>it mean to make accusations of being s.t.?  Or even, accusing someone of
>being something (a pooh-bah...not necessarily a bad thing to my way of
>thinking)...that would work...

Please have some consideration for non-natives' awkwardnessful sentences.
It's hardly important now, but I was trying to point out that afore-
mentioned Rashmi was accusing me of being a pooh-bah. However, I did not
want to draw attention to the fact that I was being accused, since that
was of only passing interest and far from being germane to the issue. As
I said earlier, please have considerations before making accusations.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:38:52 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Grungy city

>I just got my country back from the <grungy> Republicans.

Reminds me of the amazing statement that Chicago was not <grungy>
enough. I thought and thought about it till I realized that Chicago
was being equated to a bunch of blocks downtown and perhaps some
more near the UChicago campus.

In reality, Chicago also has a Southside.

tushar
From: TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain)
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>>   or so.  Also, since Utah is becoming "less mormon" than it used to be,
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
><Fondly> known as "jack" Mormons in my pop's fambly.

	Why 'jack' to designate a no-longer-observant Mormon?  Are female jack
	Mormons called 'jill Mormons'?  A similar term I've heard wrt Catholics
	is 'lapsed Catholic.'  Are there other denomination-specific terms?

[whatever the term is wrt Jews, I'm close]
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On Mon, 2 Nov 1992, Graham wrote:

>> 24) "Mihimfella tok <wakawaka> no pisin" (Graham)
>"We (me and someone else, rather than me and you - a <nice> distinction
>that pidgin holds which English doesn't) speak the <wakawaka> language
>(of Giggles) rather than Pidgin"  There may be an obscure pun in wakawaka
>too (on the Pidgin wagga wagga) except I couldn't really remember what
>wagga wagga meant when I wrote it...
 ***********

Pidgin? I thought that was an Australian aboriginal word. There's a town
in south-western New South Wales called Wagga Wagga.

Carolyn (who can't remember what it means, but suggests it may mean place of
the flies or town I wouldn't be caught dead in.)
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Subject: Re: Nov. 22, 1963
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:33:41 GMT
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> On November 22, 1923 I was teaching junior high school in Corpus Christi,
                  ~~~~
Well, shut my mouth and break my fingers! I certainly wasn't even *thought
of* in 1923.  Make that 1963.  Please.

doris
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*** Resending note of 11/11/92 16:49


>I beg your pardon?  If I remember rightly, when I arrived here I brought
>with me the impression that this was a place where people were rude, loud
>and abusive, and often stormed off, unsubscribing in pique. Within a few
>months, _it was_ :-)  Who converted whom, hmmm?

That depends on whether you were here before, or after, Adam Conn ;-)
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 10 Nov 92 05:59:34 GMT
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In article <WORDS-L%92110920043512@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
>Posted on 9 Nov 1992 at 18:45:38 by ktw@POLARIS.ATT.COM
>>Project H mess was worse.  This weekend is the worst of all.  Consider
>>that the cast of characters also overlaps.
>
>Except that this time Jim and Graham are on the *same* side!!!!!

We are <alot> 'cause neither of us is <disinterested>
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From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Apology re Gleanings (67)
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>I must apologize for typos in Gleanings (67).

>Please accept my apology.

>Akio Tanaka/10 Nov 92

No apology needed.

later

alec
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The word strac
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:32:00 MST, "BZ" <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU> wrote:
> I have not seen that particular acronym, but it looks like STRategic Air
> Command to me.  Which has recently gone out of business, I believe.  And
That's SAC.  Dunno what strac is, but I'll hazard a wild guess it's more
in the 'frag' school of buzzword that the TLA one.

G
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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: another lame unix question
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:00:58 -0600 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>Does anyone know the name of the gnu machine at MIT where I can ftp some
>FSF stuff from?


Anne,

  Am reading my big backlog of mail backwards so you are lucky -- this is
an easy question to answer -- checked news.answers on usenet for the appropriate
emacs faq

  Quoting, if you want emacs:

#  The latest version is always available via anonymous FTP at MIT:
#
#    /prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu/emacs-18.58.tar.Z
#
#91:  Where can I get other up-to-date GNU stuff?
#
#  The most up-to-date official GNU stuff is normally kept on prep.ai.mit.edu
#  and is available for anonymous FTP in the pub/gnu directory.

Joan -- running out of space over on VMS, so reading on unix
(jboor@cs.umb.edu)
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fall Poem
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> "The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year.  Of wailing winds, and
>    naked woods, and meadows brown are sere.
>  Heaped in the hollows of the grove, the autumn leaves lie dead;
>  They rustle to the eddying gust, and to the rabbit's tread."
>           William Cullen Bryant (1794-1878)
>
Another one we had to commit to memory, Don.  :-)  I always kinda
preferred this one:

"There is something in the autumn that is native to my blood,
Touch of manner, hint of mood..."

I remember snatches of the rest of it...after all, that was Mrs. Grigsby's
seventh grade English class in '50-'51 (Tushar, that's 1950-1951).
                                                       ^^   ^^
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Subject:      Carolyn confuses the issue! (was Re: Twit word)

Carolyn totally confuses the issue!

>I have yet to meet a 9 year old that wasn't a twit...that's what being
>that age means.

I was talking about what other 9 year olds think of a given 9 year old -
a completely different issue!

>So how would you describe the present generation of 9 year olds, whose
>sole aim in life seems to be to work the words 'fart' and 'fuckin' into
>their conversations?

In the same way as I would describe every generation of 9 year olds,
present and past, whose aim was to work those very same words in their
conversations - normal human beings!

>I have no problems with being labelled a 'twit' - it's second nature to
>me now - but I do object to the use of the adjective 'weak-minded'...

But supracalifragilistic is extremely weak-minded! It's not a question
of objecting to it - it's just an objective fact!


>Just because something comes sugar-coated doesn't mean that what is on
>the inside is unpalatable.

That's absolutely true, but probably the exact opposite of what you
intended to say - namely you are sugarcoating it! Never use cliched
formulae, Carolyn! And there is absolutely no need to sugar-coat, I
assure you! It only hinders argument!

tushar
From: PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 16:24:47 GMT
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>Posted on 12 Nov 1992 at 11:10:39 by (Alec D. Plotkin)
>Keep the tail. It gives you a certain character between the Harley-Davidson
>rider Hippie with a touch of Jerry Garcia. Looking like all others
>is no fun. Are you keeping the beard ? Men and maybe women in Words-l must
>have beards. It is sorta part of the look.

The tail is optional. The beard is non-negotiable.

love, judith, with non-optional pigtail
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Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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>>Ain't AT&T fun.  ;-)
>>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
>Count your blessings, Natalie - at least it isn't throwing headless
>chickens, egg trays de fridge, or peanuts at us!


By the time I'm through with AT&T over this one, it will be....

Ken
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1992, gilbertsmith wrote:

> --ggs (still bored with most of what is going on.  Somebody
> <stimulate> me, please)

Ooof! <tickle, tickle>

That's about all I can offer...

-abh
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