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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Burglars and dogs: results of a survey
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:51:57 GMT

I have my own story to tell about dogs and burglars.  Several years ago, my
husband and I were woken when Cuawn (our Aussie mix) started barking at about
1:00 am.  (Both he and our Husky mix, Conan, were 8 month old pups).  Conan then
started going ballistic.  Both were barking around the same area of the house. 
We turned on the security light.  At that moment, we heard someone running away
from the house, slam a car door and drove off at high speed.  For about six
months after that, Cuawn would always bark at any strange cars driving into our
neighborhood (day or night) and still barks if a car drives near our house at 
night. 

I have been told by many policemen that my dogs are definitely a deterrent.  A
fellow musher who has kennels outside his house tells me that no stranger will
get out of their car if they have enough nerve to drive into their driveway (an
excellent deterrent for door to door salespeople).  
   

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From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: The Puppy from Hell
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:44:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Ok, I knew I wasn't long on patience, but *this* has gone
too far.

In the space of 2 days, my puppy has learned:
1) that if she runs at a very specific angle, and rebounds
off the deck seat (which is nailed into place, hence cannot
be moved) she can make it over the fence

2) that if she pees her crate, I immediately let her out of
the crate (to clean it, of course); therefore, when she wants
to come out of the crate, she pees in it.

I have dealt with the first problem by totally blocking off
that section of the fence (when you take into account the
seat, the height of the fence is effectively 12 inches).

How do I deal with the second problem?  I am getting tired
of cleaning the crate, the floor, etc.  I had to clean it
3 times last night, and 3 times the night before.  

It's not a question of she can't hold it, because sometimes
she's only in there for 30 minutes.  On the other hand, she
holds it all day while I'm at work.  It's only when I'm
*there* that she does it.

Help, O Oracle.

Bill
Xref: sparky rec.pets.dogs:9131 misc.consumers.house:9983
From: jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Burglars and dogs: results of a survey
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:50:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

From article <1992Jul28.150407.11141@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, by patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie):
> In article <1992Jul28.134222.17424@oswego.Oswego.EDU> ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff) writes:
> 
>>A friend who lives in the country had a BIG mastiff with a very loud bark,
>>though he was actually quite friendly and would never attack anyone.  Burglars
>>came to his house and fed the dog a piece of poisoned meat.  Fortunately
>>he returned home and scared them away just as they were about to enter the
>>house.  Unfortunately the dog died.
> 
> In Atlanta during the late 60s it became common for businesses to buy
> guard dogs for night patrol. By the early 70s, burglars were using small
> crossbows to kill the dogs (tap on the window, wait til the dog gets there,
> then shoot). The counter to this was to buy a mated pair of dogs. The female
> would usually get the burglar. Then the burglars got wise to that.
> 
> The last I heard the latest craze was guard rattlesnakes. Some people use
> de-fanged snakes, some don't. They work *real* well with the appropriate
> warning signs.
>

OK, I'll bite ;-{), how does one train a rattlesnake when and who
to bite?  Can you use Copperheads, Water Mocasins (sp?) or Coral
Snakes (or foreign ones for that matter)? 
-- 
"Land of song, said the warrior bard,           Jim Heath
Though all the world betrays thee.
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
One faithful harp will praise thee."         (Thomas Moore)
From: mirsky1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mirsky)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: shar-peis
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:54:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Jul21.175426.14030
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center



Hi. I am curious about shar-peis. I was told second-hand that they
have serious congenital problems. I was told that many of their
owners end up paying hundreds of dollars in medical bills. 
 
Is this true?  Are there any shar-pei owners out there who can
tell me a bit about their experiences with the dogs? 
 
Thanks
 
respond here or send email to mirsky1@husc.harvard.edu
 
David
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: Bichon Frise "matting" help needed
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:16:20 GMT

In article <7445@monmouth.edu> ben@monmouth.edu (Bennett Broder) writes:
>I am having a big problem with my Bichon, Casper, and hope that someone
>out there can help.  Partly because of a (now solved) flea problem, and
>partly just out of lazyness, I haven't been brushing my dog very frequently
>lately.  When I brought him to the groomer on Saturday, she said that his
>
>My questions:  Should I cave in and just have the dog shaved?  Would there
>be any permanant damage to his coat?  Assuming that I try to remove the
>mats, does anyone have any pointers to make it easier on me and *especially*
>the dog?

If the slicker brush won't take out the mats by brushing from the ends
working toward the root, then there isn't much else you can do other
than cut it off.  I have had "summer cuts" on my bichons done by lousy
groomers that were essentially shaves, and I daresay the coat grows
back *better* and healthier than before.  In fact it was recommended
in a couple of the books I have on Bichons to take the coat down to
the skin at puberty, and the adult coat would then grow in thicker.

The hair loss is only temporary, and as you say, a little brushing
maintenance every couple of days will prevent mats in the future.

Did the matting coincide with using an insecticide on the dog?  I have
found that all the chemical sprays contribute greatly toward matting.
My groomer, an especially good Bichon groomer, uses a rinse on my
Bichons, and they can go up to a week without brushing before it
starts getting difficult.  Without the rinse I had to brush them every
day without question (the 3 I have all sport medium long show-type
cuts).  And if I use Sectrol for fleas I then have to go back to daily
brushing.

Regards--
-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:15 GMT

Re: the Stroh's dog...

In D.C./Maryland environs, it was a Golden Retreiver as well.
From: terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: rott/retriever mix
Date: 22 Jul 1992 14:02:00 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ralph.eece.ksu.edu

slansky_doug@macn15.rtsg.mot.com writes:

>While on vacation in Carmel, CA earlier this week, I came across a dog playing
>fetch into the Ocean.  His owner said that he was a Rottie/Golden Retriever
>Mix.  He was colored approximately like a Rott, with the longer hair, etc. of a
>Golden.  His muzzel was longer, like a Golden, but there were obvious signs of
>Rott in him (huge chest, etc).  My questions:

>Does anyone on the net have any experience with this mix of dog?

>Are they bred for a particular purpose?  (For instance, gentler disposition,
>displaysia, etc.)

I'm a Rott guy, but have no experience with this cross.  I am the
owner of a 1st generation mixed breed though.  She is a cross between
a Great Pyreneese and a Border Collie.  My dog weighs in at about 45
lbs and lives to chase, attack, run and play.  She is very
intelligent, but has some of the Pyr's independence.  She is easy to
obedience train as long as you are good at walking the line between
overwhelming her and boring her to death.  On the other hand, she has
a brother that weighs in at 120 lbs and is a pure couch potato.  He is
even more laid back than his Great Pyr mother.  Moral of the story: Be
careful with 1st generation mixes.  Even if you see another puppy out
of the same breeding, you are not guaranteed to get a puppy that is
even remotely similar to the one you saw.  The size and the
temperament could be VASTLY different.

--
Terry Hull  -  terry@eece.ksu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Kansas State University
From: mjm@knight.West.Sun.COM (Michael Marchi - Santa Clara Systems Eng)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Golden Retriever/Play Area Question
Date: 29 Jul 1992 21:12:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mjm@knight.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: knight.west.sun.com

My wife and I will be getting a Golden Retriever in the October time
frame...and have number of initial questions I was hoping you might be
able to help us with.  Initially our Retriever will be a puppy.
Background:  My wife and I both work during the day and we have a house with
a fairly large backyard.  We are obtaining our retriever from a local
recommended breeder and will also be asking them many of the questions
I'm asking this newsgroup....but I'm hoping to obtain additional feedback.
I expect to spend time at home during the first week the puppy is part of
the family.

1.  What type of play area should we set up for the puppy in the daytime? 
    And should we set this up indoors until the puppy grows older?  The weather
    is quite nice in the summer (70-80 degrees).  If outside, should the
    area all be shaded....or big enough to be both in the sun and shade?
    Looking for suggestions on the size of the area (I'm assuming we won't
    want the puppy running around the entire house and yard)

2.  As our dog grows older, we expect to keep the dog outside with access
    to our garage during the day when we are out.
    One of our fences is about 5 feet tall adjoining our
    neighbors yard.  Will a retriever be able to jump out into the other
    yard once she grows up?  If so, I guess we'll have to set up a large
    daytime play area covered on the top.  Are these typically built
    by dog owners themselves...or are their recommended suppliers of the
    fencing?

 Thanks!

 Michael J. Marchi		               Email:  Mike.Marchi@West.Sun.COM
 Systems Engineer		               Phone:  (408) 562-6335
 Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
 Santa Clara District Sales Office             Fax:    (408) 562-6316
 5201 Great America Parkway
 Suite 400
 Santa Clara, CA  95054
From: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM (Todd Hoff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Advice on Starting a Dog Cemetery
Date: 21 Jul 1992 22:40:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: oogoody.corp.sun.com

In article 17624@col.hp.com, lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:
>Well I don't know how she's going to do it either, but it's been done, so
>it must be possible! (Doesn't sound like much fun though. I mean, does she
>want an animal related business because she likes animals? She won't get
>to interact with [live] animals much in this job!)
>-- 
>

Well, she has training as and has worked as a vet tech and said that wasn't 
very fun. I think it would be rewarding in that you are providing a loving
service for bereaved pet owners.



Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Advice on Starting a Dog Cemetery
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:16:19 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle) writes:
> In article <l6lrmcINNq0j@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
> >
> >My sister is trying to create an animal related business 
> >and has hit on a pet cemetery as an idea. I think it's
> >a great idea, but we are at a loss on how to start.
> >So a couple of questions:
> 
> I can't see this is going to be a "business" for her.  How is she going to
> make a profit, which is the general idea of a business, by charging people to
> bury their pets?  Maybe I'm just a cynic, but somehow I don't think this one
> is going to take off.
> 

Well I don't know how she's going to do it either, but it's been done, so
it must be possible! (Doesn't sound like much fun though. I mean, does she
want an animal related business because she likes animals? She won't get
to interact with [live] animals much in this job!)
-- 
lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Duke: 1992 NCAA Champs!)
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks needed
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:11:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.135953.8551@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, 
williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major) writes:

>I tried the shake the whole body trick with Spencer too, but I was never able
>to get him to do it.  Does anyone else have ideas how to get him to shake
>on command?

I get my boy to shake on command when he's soaking wet, taking advantage of his
instinctive urge to shake then anyway.  I'll also run my fingers through his
fur the wrong way on his sides and back, which will annoy him enough that he'll
shake himself to right his fur.  Of course, I'm saying, "Shake" during all
this.  Good luck!

Katie and Danny
From: devon@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Devon Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Cute dog tricks
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:14:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com


All this talk of teaching a dog how to shake on command made
me chuckle...  I remember giving Corey a bath and asking him to
"shake" and the poor dog was so confused.  He would just look
at me like I was crazy and hold out his little paw.  He
kept trying to SHAKE HANDS!  Boy did I feel like an idiot once
I figured out what he was doing!  Get a clue Devon!

Cheers!
Devon
From: mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Matt Ledna)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Seeking Personal Opinions/Info on Akitas
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:57:23 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


  We are considering getting a second dog and my wife has her heart set on an
  Akita.  Two questions :  1) How do they get along with other dogs?  We
  already have a large, high-energy male gsd/golden mix and want to make sure
  they will be buddies (part of our reason for getting one is as a companion
  for Zack).  2) Can anyone give me references to reputable Akita breeders in
  the SF Bay Area?  I've always prefered mix-breed "pound puppies" and have no
  experience dealing with breeders, so references would be very helpful.

  Anything else we should be aware of prior to adding a second dog to the
  household?  Thanks a bunch.

  Please e-mail or call (leave a message) as I will be out of the office for
  the next couple of weeks with no access to the net.

Matt Ledna
415-857-5608
ledna@hppgpsc.pa.itc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: smm1@troy.uucp (22142-michelson)
Subject: Re: Why choose a male dog? +help
Reply-To: smm1@troy.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 20:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.115700.16101@hemlock.cray.com> dadams@cray.com writes:
>
>So far this sounds pretty good.  Here are my concerns.  (What others 
>should I have?  No flames please, I recognize I may be biased, unbalanced,
>uneducated, or not thinking clearly, that is why I ask for your advice.)
>
>The pups are female.  I know this poses no quandry to many dog owners,
>but personally I have a greater hesitation to have a female spayed than
>to have a male neutered.  Why you ask?
>
>This has to do with my philosophy about breeding:  (Warning philosophy
>follows)
>
>Let us make a conservative estimate that bitches used for breeding purposes 
>by responsible breeders have an average of about 20 pups.  (How reasonable
>is this?  I choose 20 because it makes the math easy, but if it is not
>reasonable the logic still follows, so read on.)  This would mean that
>10% of all female dogs are enough to continually replace the current dog
>population.  (In fact they could probably support a healthy population
>explosion.  :-()  This would mean that the best bitch in 10 should reasonably
>be bread.  The rest should be spayed.   

David:

I think that you are assuming that the current dog population SHOULD be 
maintained at its current level. I believe that this is untrue, for
the following reason. Considering that something on the order of 10 million 
dogs are put down at humane societies EVERY YEAR in the U.S.A (many of them
purebreeds), I'd say there is no shortage of dogs, mutt or purebreed. While 
it might be true that 10% of females are enough to maintain the current
population, I think the goal should be to only have enough dogs that are
actually WANTED and LOVED by their people. To satisfy that goal, something less
than 10% of females is a more reasonable number, probably something 
significantly less (maybe 1% ???) If you want to deal with breeding the dogs,
and if you believe that you can improve the breed, and if you can find homes
for your puppies, please do so. But don't think that you have to,
since there is no shortage of dogs in this country.

Just my two cents on the matter. Best of luck no matter what you decide.






_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Michelson                |   Paying tolls is like throwing money out
Bell Communications Research   |   the window.
smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com      |   
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Barbara S Withem <bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: SHELTIES
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:15:51 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

First let me apologize for calling Shelties, Toy Collies. My ignorance was 
showing and I do stand corrected. Second thanks to all the responses I received
filling me in on these dogs. They sound wonderful and I can't wait to get mine,
now if I can just find one. I have put the word out to everyone I see that I am
looking for one and I have a call into a breeder, I am just waiting to hear 
back from her now.

Everyone has indicated that Shelties like to be played with and mine will never
lack for activity. One of the reasons I have stayed away from a smaller dog is 
because I didn't think he could keep up with us(the way our German Shepard 
did).

I will keep you posted on our progress and thanks again for all the help. (I
may need PUPPY help soon)----Barb
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,udel.general,phl.misc
From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Have New Puppy, now what?
Keywords: new puppy
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:26:25 GMT

>I have had a new puppy now for about 3 hours (German Shep. 8 wks old), and
>I would like some advice from the "experts" as to how to train it.  I have
>never owned a dog before, so I don't have the first clue as to how to
>train and care for this animal, but I am willing to learn.

>I have 3 young excited daughters, so the dog doesn't lack for attention,
>that is for sure.  It seems that he will be played with most of the day. 
>I would like a friendly pet, that would also guard my property when I'm
>not home.  

>What should I do now, and what are the things that I should be thinking
>about in the next few weeks.

I would highly recommend getting the following two books:

"The Art of Raising a Puppy" by the Monks of New Skete and "Mother
Knows Best" by Carol Lea Benjamin.

These will be invaluable to you.  Also, enroll your puppy in puppy
kindergarten -- don't wait until they're 6 months old.  If you find a
good trainer, he/she will give you invaluable advice.

schalene
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Show Brags
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:36:11 EST

In article <1992Jul27.150012.2114@auto-trol.com>, bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson) writes:
> Ok, Dog showing is sorta fun... More nerve racking than weight pulling
> but I am proud to announce
> 
> Denali's Dazzling in Black, Tibetan Mastiff
> 
> In a double show on Sunday my 8 month old puppy took
> Best of Breed - puppy
> Best Opposite Sex over champions
> Best of Winners
> Best in Group - Rare Breeds.
> 
> Did this twice for two 5 point majors... 2/3 a champion at 8 months
>
> Look for puppies in 1994 after a CD and weight pulling title.
> 
> Not bad for a first time handler.
> 

Just goes to show that the best of puppies win in spite of their handlers ;-)
Seriously, congratulations!  You must be floating! 

Kim Williams
Ohio

> Brad Davidson
> 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hhll@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Subject: Re: My dog watches tv....
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:31:10 GMT

My auto body guy in Philadelphia had a pair of enormous, very sweet Rotts
who loved to watch TV in the office. They would go over and scratch at the
TV when they wanted to watch, which they would do sitting side by side,
attentive and quiet until a dog came on. Then they got very excited. One
of them would get upset if people shouted at one another on TV, and *very*
upset if anyone threatened a child. I witnessed this several times.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Dog 4-SALE **ROTTWEILER**
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1992 08:46:25 GMT

In article <3656.83.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)  writes:
> . OLX 2.1 . Puppies are not just for X-Mas, but for a LIFETIME!!!!

That reminds me of what I consider to be a really stupid policy by
many of the local humane societies: they won't let you adopt a pet
during "Christmas season."

I'm not Christian to begin with, so December 25th or the rest of that
time has no particular significance to me other than I get days off
from work I wouldn't normally have to myself.

I remember a few years back thinking "This would be the PERFECT time
to adopt a dog!  I'd be home more than usual for the first few weeks
so I could devote more time to the puppy."

The Humane Society, however, said "No.  We don't allow people to adopt
durinig Christmas season because then the animals get returned."

Instead, they wanted me to wait until I was at work all day again and
unable to be with the dog 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

I don't get it.  These societies want animals to be adopted, but when
someone offers to take REAL responsibility for a dog, they'd rather
kill the dog than let it be loved.

I instead waited until the next time I had time and adopted from a breeder.

--Lynn
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