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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Lobo's Back #3
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:58:54 GMT

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>I've been off the net for about the last month, so I don't know if this
>has been mentioned or not.  I heard it a a couple of weeks ago from my
>sister, who works in a comics shop.  Apparently, DC will not be releasing
>Lobo's Back #3, because, on the cover of #2, the artist slipped in a
>certain portion of the male anatomy that wasn't spotted by the censors
>(it's on Lobo/Bimbo's left arm, right near the elbow, if you care to
>look).  If anyone else can confirm or deny this, please let me know.
>I have no idea how this will affect other Lobo comics, such as Lobo's
>Back #4 (would be strange without #3), Lobo's Blazing Chain of Love,
>Lobo: Infanticide, etc. 

Well good grief, Disney can do it with the Little Mermaid, but Lobo
(For Mature Audiences Only) can't?
-- 
Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and
bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth.
But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.
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From: dmorgan@emunix.emich.edu (Face Man)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Organization: Detroit Institute of Criminal Arts and Sciences
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:42:03 GMT

In article <4899@airs.com> ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) writes:
>
>Isn't Fathom of the Elementals Jewish?
>

 Yuppers...I thought I already posted it...

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Beyonder MM pair
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:05:35 GMT

Sorry, but Molecule Man was expelled from the new cube (who then took on a 
female aspect) in a backup story in one of the Annuals last year.  He's back to
his "original" power levels (only inorganic stuff) and has one of the stupidest
pieces of headgear since the Cheesehead wedge.  It was implied that he'd be 
appearing either in his own new series or in backups in FF.  So far that hasn't
materialized.  Nor has Volcana appeared since that story, where MM's new 
attitude kinda threw her.
     Dave Van Domelen, of the opinion that most of last year's annuals had main
stories that compared very unfavorably with the backups (Korvac Quest, for 
example)
From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: XMEN: Forge is not an inventor
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:00:55 GMT
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Jul28.093258.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:

>What other marketable inventions are being ignored by the superhero populace?

There are a lot of them in the Marvel Universe:
	The von Doom time cube
	Reed Richard's unstable molecule "cloth"
	The Iron Man armor
	The Multiple Man's unbreakable Mayo jar
	Adamantium
	Vibranium
	Force Fields
	Antigravity
	Cloaking devices
	Mach 4+ jets
	Mutant inhibitor fields
	growth/shrink formulas
	artificial intelligence
	personal jet packs
	phasing ability
	
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From: scostain@esk (Sean Edward Costain)
Subject: Re: Weapon Omega
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:05:56 GMT

>Date Entered: 07-27-92 15:14
>This is a list of circumstances that could lead Weapon Omega (Newest member of
>Alpha Flight). to the Sabretooth and Wolverine.
>        1. Weapon Omega has a healing factor like Wolverines.
>        2. Weapon O originates from Canada.
>        3. Weapon O often goes beserk just like Wolverine .
>        4. Weopon O has claws like Sabretooth.
>        5. He looks like a son of Sabretooth's.


Well, Weapon Omega is (was) known as Wild Child. He was a true nutcase who
trained with Wolverine, this can be seen in a Marvel Comics Presents comic
around issue 50. Wild child was never able to control his bezerker rage
so the government sanctioned him.
	For No. 1 ----- He does doesn't he :)
        For No. 2 ----- It would appear so,after all does Alpha flight
have any non Canadians????
	For No. 3 ----- In Alpha Flight 100 something he said he was cured
of his berzerker tendencies.
	For No. 4 ----- So who doesn't now days :-)
        For No. 5 ----- I don't think so.  :)


Thats about it.
	Catch Ya

		Dae Aini.




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From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:18:08 GMT


Well, there's Moshe, the eight or so year old Israeli member of the
Blasters (people who gained powers due to Dominator experiments just
before the Invasion, notably including Snapper Carr).  He was last
seen in Peter David's _Blasters Special_, in which I think he was
given a name like "Dust Devil" or some such, since he could fly with
Red Tornado like whirling effects.  (Sorry, this didn't stick in my
mind very deeply, though it was quite a funny one-shot story.)  His
Uzi-wielding mom also tagged along for the ride.

I vaguely recall a Judah Maccabee coming out of one of DC's "lets have
superheroes from other countries" fits, but I may be just conflating
Seraph with the character from Nexus for no known reason.

Mike

-- 
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mss2@usite-next.uchicago.edu     Jim Koncz (konc@midway.uchicago.edu)
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From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: Re: Weapon Omega
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:28:21 GMT
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Date Entered: 07-30-92 14:34
robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp) wrote:

[talking about Weapon Omega (aka WildChild)
>And what does a "son of Sabretooth's" look like ?

Well, WildChild has claws which look VERY similiar to those of
Sabretooth.  He uses them as weapons (well what do you expect?), he
fights well and he's got snappy patter  :)
Oh, yeah, he's pretty ugly mug.  BTW, anyone know how WildChild looks
the way he does?

Vic
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From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Shade <was: None>
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:16:51 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <1992Jul24.162520.5781@iscsvax.uni.edu> From: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu


>>As far as I understand it, the current series of Shade is not set within the
>>mainstream DC continuity.

>         So, then what you're saying is, is that there are *two* Shades running
> around?  The Ditko version who we saw in the Suicide Squad, and the Ditko
> inspired, Milligan creation version the we all know and love? 
> Tell me if I got that right.

Ypu got it right excpt for the last part - all of don't love
the new Shade and it is better that it is not part of continuity.
Too many writers change characters dramaticly and excpect
them to fit into the DC Universe.  This is because they don't give
a damn about continuity in the DC Universe.  If there wasn't another
Shade then we would have another gaiman creation on our hands.


>  This has been hinted at in the editorial page, and
>>during all the cataclysmic events of the American Scream story we saw not one
>>glimpse of a superhero. In fact, they nuked...erm...one major US city (might
>>have been SF but I can't remember) which I presume hasn't happened in the
>>mainstream DC Universe.

>         Yes, you're right.  It was San Francisco that got nuked.  Pretty
> drastic measures just to take out a hippy, eh?

Depends on how many hippies were eliminated; it might be worth NYC
but I don't think it is worth taking out SF. :)


>>I should add that I, for one, hope it stays that way. I think Milligan's stor
> ies
>>are unique and interesting and I don't want to see him tied to someone else's
>>idea of having loads of Spandex-suited do-gooders. For that matter, I don't
>>want a cross-over with Sandman, Doom Patrol, Hellblazer or anything else. I
>>want it to stand alone as a coherent story without any 'run-of-the-mill' sill
> yness involving superheroes.


Thats good because a lot of fans of the Spandix-suited do-gooders want to
be tied into it either; the feeling is reciprical.  Although if it DOES
start intersecting  with the DC universe I think Giffin should be able
give Shade a recharacterization.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:39:16 -0400 
From: "David M. Bartlett" <db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Graphic Novels and comics for Sale

Dear Mr. Kelly, et al:

I apologize for posting to the R.A.C bboard.  I've been away from the
board for some time:  the last time I posted a list to this board I had
no complaints.  I was unaware that there had been a change in the
various pecking orders.  Please forgive me.

In the future, before the words "jerk" and "asshole" are hurled over the
Net, it might be best to consider two things:

1.  Most people who post and read the bboard are casual customers, who
are not versed in the arcane and ever changing sets of protocols that
constitute "proper" etiquette on that particular bboard or branch of
bboards.  

2.  Adherance to those rules might be better encouraged with politely
phrased reminders rather than vulgar abuse.  More peace and order is
created with a handshake than a kick in the balls.

Otherwise, casual readers and users might think that comics truly IS the
kingdom of emotionally insecure children of all ages. 

Peace,
Dave Bartlett
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: American Splendour
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:33:46 GMT

Andrej Panjov (matap@lure.latrobe.edu.au) writes:

>Can anyone tell me if Harvey Pekar is still doing his excellent
>"American Splendour"?  If so, when can I expect the next issue?

Yes, he is.  (In fact, there was a lengthy interview with Harvey in a recent
issue of Comics Buyer's Guide.)  American Splendor has always (15 years) been
an annual cimoic, because that was about as often as Harvey could get all the
associated stuff done for it (orders, and the like).  With the next issue (due
out in a month or so, I think), Tundra Publishing will take over.  This will
give American Splendor more credit in shops, may provide a larger print run,
and may enable Harvey to do more than one issue a year.

>Also, where can I acquire back issues?  Can I order them by mail from 
>Harvey?

I don't know.  Try writing to Tundra:

Tundra Publishing, Ltd.
320 Riverside Drive
Northampton, MA  01060
(413) 586-9525

>Does anyone else enjoy this comic as much as I do?

I've never seen a copy.  With Tundra publishing it, that may change.

------------------------------
                             |    "Ron!" I said.  "What are you doing here?"
Jim Drew                     |    "This is the afterlife, Marc," he said.
jrd@frame.com                | "I'm dead, remember?  I'm just waiting for Val
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | to show up, and catching some great music in
"Innocent, but not naive."   | the meantime.  Peter, Paul, and Patsy are
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | next."  He pointed out a concert poster.
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |      "Bill Graham productions presents... Peter
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | Tschaikovsky and Paul McCartney, with special
			     | guest Patsy Cline!"
			     |		- Marc Lynx, "A Conventional Death"
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: FOR SALE MESSAGES - DO NOT POST THEM HERE!
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:22:16 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (The Jack Elmo Society Black Book) writes:

> If I recall netiquette right (and I'm a comparative newbie),
> rec.arts.comics is open to all comics-related messages, including
> forsale notices (albeit not for cars :-), until it's rmgrouped, at least
> since the creation of rac.misc. 

You remember wrong -- r.a.c.marketplace predates the current reorganization.
*All* comic-related forsale messages belong there and nowhere else.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Subject: Re: Crisis Inconsistencies (WAS: Re: The Problem with the GL yellow we
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.003021.10129@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>Actually, Denny O'Neill came up with a good way to scale back Supe's powers, 
>and it *was* permanent...until another editor took over.  He had an 

This was a great series of stories, some of the best Supes stories I've read
(I'm not a Byrne fan).  It was really hyped up, and the cover for the ish
that launched it (by Adams, natch) is my favorite Superman cover of all time.
It really pissed me off when they decided to start ignoring it.  Anyway,
it didn't have the problems of Byrne's, because none of the changes were
retroactive, there were no "continuity ripples".  What a novel idea.

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas P. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Crisis = uncreative writers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:45:10 GMT

kyrie@coos.dartmouth.edu (Thomas S. Marlowe) writes:

>That's what really bothers me about all of this post-crisis shit. 
>Rather than being creative, they are rehashing all of the old story
>stuff and trying to pack an exciting twist in them.  Bah!  Humbug!
>I really don't want to see another story explaining how a new
>guy who resembles one of Supes old foes suddenly crops up and turns
>to a life of crime.  Can't anyone be creative and create a new
>villain that can take a place in Supes' Rogues Gallery Hall of Fame
>and isn't wiped out immediately by the big Red Cheese?

It would be nice to see more new villains in general.  But it takes
something special to make a villain with staying power.  Some villains
are hits, and some aren't.  As an example, the (?) Fearsome Five from
the New Teen Titans.  The original group really clicked (Psimon, Dr.
Light, Shimmer, Mammoth, Gizmo) and I enjoyed seeing their subsequent
appearances.  But when they played with the membership, I disliked
their new choices (I can't even remember their names, but think one
was a vaguely-defined magic using female, and the other was some
schlub who had fought Superman.)

I liked the guy who fought Hawk and Dove, who (more or less) absorbed
kinetic energy.  OK, not a very original power.  But I got a kick out
of the beach bum personality he had.

Tom
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Subject: Re: Infinity War...Geez...
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:56:11 GMT
 <1992Jul27.205506.27872@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <152ijfINNsif@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: mbblum

In article <152ijfINNsif@agate.berkeley.edu>, goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
> )     If not Thanos (Spoiler coming, I can't make the ^L thing), the reality 
> )wielder has to be someone not yet seen in the IWar books. 
> 
> 	Hm. Perhaps the Watcher? I don't believe we've seen him yet,
> which is a bit odd considering how cosmic it's all been getting.

You've got to be kidding.  To give the Watcher control over reality is to
invalidate watching.  It's the old Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in spades: 
you can't observe something without changing it.

Joel
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From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: DANGER! Cool World is a BOMB! STAY AWAY!
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:21:47 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

This is a public service announcement to all you comic fans.
I wish to prevent a tragedy from happening to you.  This is 
my sad story. Yesterday, My friend dragged me to a matinee' 
and it was one of the worst cinematic experiences in my life.
The so-called film is "Cool World."  I had heard it wasn't a 
good film, from someone I didn't really trust, and so I really
didn't pay much attention to the warning signs.  I saw on the 
back of comics advertisements for this debotchery of sight and
sound, but had no idea how horrific it really could be.  Well,
I survived, but barely.  DON'T GO SEE IT!  WHAT A WASTE!  I sat
through the entire film saying, "It's just slow, it'll get 
better." Survey Says "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!"  To put it 
mildly, I felt betrayed, appalled and used.  How can they make
such filth and garbage and pass it off as film?  I am posting
this here to help quelch anyone's curiosity about it.  They
try to drag in the comic fans, don't heed the siryn's call!

Perhaps there are other victims out there who will come out 
and help substantiate my case, but I am pleading to you don't 
see it, It's not worth even going to it at a dollar theatre.
Don't rent it.  Yech!  

This has been a public service announcement...
			 by
				wReam...

P.S. Dave Van Domelen, Don't worry Dave, it will heal.  You may
suffer from a limp or speak with a lisp for a while, but you will
overcome it with enough will power...
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Quasar (was Re: DC--Crisis Inconsistencies)
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:17:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.

In article <Bs0oJ8.FJH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator) writes:
>BTW, in the latest issue, for those of you that remember the Questprobe
>storyline in Fantastic Four and Spiderman:  The Chief Examiner is Dead, and
>the Black Fleet has finally arrived!

For those of us who don't remember it, mind summarizing it? :-)
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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Re: Superman DIES ???????????
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:22:10 GMT

Montague_Kevin @Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:

>In article <1992Jul30.201048.3332@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, berninge@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (James A Berninger) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Jul30.192519.3010@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes:
>> I doubt it.  Hellblazer and Sandman are both "mature titles".  Just
>> as Green Arrow, Sandman, etc. were not included in Armageddon 2001
>> or Eclipso -- the younger audience would not be encouraged to pick
>> up titles they otherwise wouldn't/couldn't buy.
>Sorry,
>But Green Arrow actually was in the Eclipso mess.  Check out his annual.  

And also check out his cover.  GA is no longer a Mature Readers book.
They've mainstreamed him again, so he's now crossover fodder.
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From: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
Subject: Re: FLAMES: The Marketplace Flames
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:18:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <hylmw#q@lynx.unm.edu> rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly) writes:
>
>And the poltroon who posted something about "rac" is charterless
>is full-of-it.  RAC is still rec.arts.comics until Sept. 30 and 
>rac.marketplace exists specifically for "For Sale" messages.
>
>Take your shit-house law back to the shit-house.

OOooopsie!  :-)

Sorry, Elmo.

Robert Kelly
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