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From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: New Music
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:44:08 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

This isn't a new list or anything, since I haven't had time to update mine, but
I have been buying some twelves lately (including $50 yesterday), and here is
the new crop out in the states:

Lords Of The Underground "Psycho" - A *dope* Marley Marl Production On This One
     That Drops Off On The Two Extra LP Cuts.

Boogie Down Productions "We In There" b/w "Feel The Vibe, Feel The Beat" - This 
     was mentioned before, but I include it to reiterate(sp?) that it is a dope
     Quest remix and the new song is also worth the pickup.  Also New Lyrics.

(Have Not Opened These Yet):

A Tribe Called Quest "Hot Sex" b/w "Senerio UK Remix" - Side A From The,
       "Boomerang," SoundTrack

Cypress Hill "Latin Lingo" b/w "Stoned Is The Way Of The Walk" - A-Side Prince
       Paul Remix; also, "Hand On The Glock," for Those That Missed It.

Pete Rock & CL Smooth "Straighten It Out" b/w "T.R.O.Y. Remix"

Mary J. Blige "Real Love" - This Is The Song That Uses Audio Two's, "Top
       Billin'," beat and comes off.  Features A Remix With *just* this beat
       and a Acappela version.

Donald D. "Let The Horns Blow" b/w Two Other Cuts - From Ice-T's Rhyme
       Syndicate, for those that don't know.

I picked up a couple others, but cannot remember the names.  Of Is called
Diamond & somebody and features co-production from the Large Professor.  The
other is by Original Flavor and was mention in the Source's SureShots. 
Hopefully, once I get my computer back, I will update my list and post it,
since it is much better organized than this!

                                                     T-Dub
                                                     SHYGUY productions
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 12:12:06 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Testing...

Don't mind me, I'm just testing to see if I got this posting done right...
Peace Out...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Should we diss Hammer (Was Re: Fab 5 Freddy)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:36:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.195428.22243@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia A. Reed 
writes:
>It was said that Hammer was in it for the money and entertaining
>people. I have no problem with this, but I think a true rap artist
>should be in it for the love of hip-hop, not just to bring in the cash.

Well, it's been said that a lot of rap artists are just guys trying to feed
their families the best way they can, and though nobody should have delusions
about becoming rich in the music biz, everyone talks about makin' the papes.

But believe me, your point is well taken.  You can tell who's really in it for
the love of hip hop and who's not by listening to the records.  Like that
Reebok commercial - You got the love?

>Hammer's style is pretty wack, but I gotta admit it, his first album
>(let's get it started) wasn't half bad, at least compared to his new
>shit.

"Pump It Up" wasn't too bad, but as far as hip hop is concerned, he fell off.
I say we put Hammer and Paula Abdul together and just let them dance each
other to death - and tape their mouths shut so they don't sing or rap or
nothing.

>                                        Peace out to y'all,
>                                                      LX


-- 
- David J. --------- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS.  Bloomington, IN; Durham, NC. -
- e-mail: dwarner@miami.ucs.indiana.edu -------------------------------------
***************** "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE" ********************
***************** BRP's debut 12" single -- coming soon  ********************
From: ccaajcw@ucl.ac.uk (Jevon White)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: HardC.O.R.E. vol 01
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:03:24 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

juonsteve@bvc.edu writes:

>Has anybody ever seen a complete list of P.E. releases?  I
>mean, including 12" and cassingles along with the regular shit?  I've never
>seen any 12" that predates "Fear of a Black Planet", so I don't know if there
>are any or not.

Where have you been?  Coming from a man from Britian, what about:-

"Rebel Without A Pause" 12  (This tune tore up '87 and was still being played
			     a lot in '88.  All-time classic)
"Bring The Noise" 12 (and I don't mean the soundtrack 12" from that film that I
		      can't remember where the flip-side was some Black Flames
		      tune. No, the original 12 that was a follow-up to "Rebel")
"Don't Believe The Hype" 12 (Which came out around the same time as "It Takes A
			     Nation....")

I'm sure somebody else can remember the rest.  I don't want to think about it
too much because I had these 12's and they were stolen B-(

Peace,
Tek.
Xref: sparky alt.rap:4454 rec.music.funky:1357
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Brand New Heavies
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <1992Sep10.110302.10726@waikato.ac.nz>, pkingi@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|> 
|>                             INFO  REQUEST 
|>                             -------------
|> 
|> Could someone please tell me about 'The Brand New Heavies' latest album which
|> features Gangstarr, Main Source and friends. I heard it was pretty hot but
|> would really like to know a bit more about it. That album is not due for
|> release in NZ for at least another week or two.
|> 
|> Much appreciated,
|> Pat.

 The album is called "Heavy Rhyme Experience no. 1". The musicians are a core
 of three members from BNH playing bass, guitar and drums on every track and
 they get a little help from some friends. The album is full of wah-wah guitars
 and funky basslines and dope raps. Because everything is live the rappers
 have to adapt themselves to the band and they do that very good. Participating
 rappers are: Main Source, Grand Puba Maxwell, Gangstarr, Pharcyle, Tiger, 
 Master Ace, Black Sheep, Jamalski, Ed OG and Kool G Rap(?). It's a rougher 
 sound than on The BNH's first album. The tracks I like most currently are
 the ones by Black Sheep and Jamalski. If you like the rappers and the BNH it's
 a must and if you haven't heard the BNH it's like a good rap compilation worth
 buying.

						-Palle Zetterstrand
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: So diss me already
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:06:44 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Okay this is X-Man.  This Fedde guy just made it clear to me that I'm 
gettin dissed behind my back and that I'm wastin my fuckin time.  Do you 
think so?  Tell me in person.  If all y'all think C.O.R.E. is a waste of 
time, tell me so.  Then I can just give up on the whole fuckin' thing.  I 
really don't want to waste my time if nobody gives a fuck.  I'm out, and I 
mean out.
From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Lyrics: Mic Checka
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:23:25 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Thanx a lot for those lyrics. Now I can do some iggley-diiing on my own
in my spare time (when I can find some) !

Femi.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: gschwarz@dcc.uchile.cl (Guillermo Schwarz Utrup (Coto))
Subject: Re: Rap
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 23:26:38 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

toban@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jeff Zuk) writes:
>woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess) writes:
>: I want to buy the ten best Rap CDs of the 90's, to begin a musical
>: exploration.  Send me your top ten list of must-have rap CDs.  I'll post
>: a summary of the responses I get.


  Me too...
>: 
>: T'anks,
>: --woodstock
>: -- 
>: "It doesn't impress the girls, of course, but there's no sense
>: impressing them and then getting killed, my dad used to say..."  - Hobbes
>: 
>
>Good question and heres my so-so answer.
>
>In no particular order:
>	1. Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
>	2. Boogie Down Productions - Sex and Violence
>A	3. De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
>	4. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
>	5. Ice-T - Original Gangsta
>	6. Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
>	7. Del tha Funkee Homosapien - I wish my Brother George was Here
>	8. Dream Warriors - And the Legacy Begins...
>	9. Ice Cube - Death Certificate
>	10. Massive Attack - Blue Lines (not really rap, but huge beats.)
>Hope this helps. Dont buy em all at once.
>
>
    I would like to buy it, but I'm a little far away from places where I
  could find it. But I would like to know if you can do a favor for me,
  if so please send me some lyrics of your favorite songs.

    Thanx brothers.

   gschwarz@anakena.dcc.uchile.cl

   gschwarz@cecux1.cec.uchile.cl

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Freedom of Speech.
Keywords: Soundgarden, Bodycount, Lollapalooza
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:05:55 GMT

I wasn't sure where to crosspost this one, so anyone who knows where it should
go, please put it there and let me know about it.

Turns out Ice Cube isn't the only rap name making news on the Lollapalooza
tour.  The Seattle-based group Soundgarden started performing the cover for
a song that's gotten a lot of attention on this board over the past few
months -- Bodycount's "Cop Killer."  According to band members, they started
performing the song in answer to all the suckers out there who have a problem
with the first amendment.  Crowds at the concerts have raved at the mere
mention of the tune.

If I find the original story from the AP wire, I'll post it here.  No word
yet on whether the group plans to release the song on an album or single yet.

P.S.: If anyone is interested, there is an album out now called "Temple of the
Dog," which was made by members of Soundgarden and Pearl Jam.  It is filled
with material worth sampling.  Most of it is what you'd expect from a Seattle
band - grungy, but listenable.


-- 
- David J. --------- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS.  Bloomington, IN; Durham, NC. -
- e-mail: dwarner@miami.ucs.indiana.edu -------------------------------------
***************** "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE" ********************
***************** BRP's debut 12" single -- coming soon  ********************
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gregory B. Beuthin)
Subject: Re: Jam in London
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:31:51 GMT

Yo!  Is KissFM still out there? I thought they packed it in a while
ago!  Allright!!
BTW- What's the name ofthe Massive Attack album?
and- whatcha think of the new Brand new Heavies?  Canya diggit?

--
Greg "Boyteen" Beuthin {Bo2Ke4Li3} | When you've seen one non-sequitar,   
(gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu)    |      the price of tea in China.   
Social Sciences Computer System    | A man without a woman is like   
University of Hawai'i at Manoa     |      a fish without gills.
From: rmiller@pokvmcr3.VNET.IBM.COM (Rob Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: DAS EFX lyrics wanted
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:08:56 GMT

>Anybody got the lyrics to any of those phat DAS EFX songs, like
>"Microphone Chesker" or "They want EFX"? If so, please post them. Those
>guys are pumpin' !

  I'll be posting the lyrics to 'They Want EFX' and 'Mic Checka' soon.

-Rob Miller        rmiller@pokvmcr3.vnet.ibm.com
From: stclair@ldgo.columbia.edu (moanna stclair)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
Summary: Fab 5 Freddy and Hammer
Keywords: Joke?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:27:26 GMT
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

In article <fedde.715951465@Minsk>, fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler) writes:
> There is something that I have been wondering for a couple of days, and I
> thought I'd put it here to see what the rest of you think. This weekend I
> finally did find myself with some time to sit in front of the TV and what
> shows up when I turn it on? Yes, Fab 5 Freddy on his saturday show, doing an
> interview of 2$hort.
> Fab was asking the pimp something about where he came from, and then said that
> a lot of other wellknown rappers came from that part of AmeriKKKA (don't 
> remember the name of the place, but that is not the deal here). He listed
> some and finally added Hammer to the list. 2$hort was chewing on something, I
> think, and suddenly stopped to look at Fab with a wierd smile not really 
> knowing if he was joking or what! Fab looked so serious, that 2$hort choosed
> to make a fast change of the subject, but he stil had that wondering face.
> 
> After that wierd situation, the following video Fab introduced, was one of
> Dj Quik. Again 2$hort paused and this time he didn't say much at all.
> 
> So here are my questions...
> 
> 1) Is Fab really serious when he says Hamsterdick is a good rapper? He looked
>    really serious and I couldn't see if it was a joke. How many other "real"
>    rappers count Hamster as a rapper at all??
> 
I enjoy rap music and find it to be the most innovative form of music of all
 the types of music, which are in existence today.  And all though, I am not
 a big fan of the really "hard" hardcore faction of rap, I can tell what really
is not rap music at all.  Hammer is more of an overall type of entertainer, 
much more like Madonna (you know one of those entertainers that really has no
musical talent, but is talented in other ways such as dancing and who is 
really popular, all though no one is quite sure why).  I think what a lot 
of people admire about Hammer is his business sense, I mean he is not getting
"abused" by record companies, the way that many other more talented but less 
business saavy rappers are.  As for Fab 5 Freddy, I don't think he really knows
much about the rap music, which is not watered down for mass consumption.

--A. St. Clair
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: syawanar@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Rap
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:57:01 GMT

In article <Bu0But.6zr@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v523d85n@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C    ) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.051459.5272@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, toban@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jeff Zuk) writes...
>>woodstck@hal.com (Nathan Hess) writes:
>>: I want to buy the ten best Rap CDs of the 90's, to begin a musical
>>: exploration.  Send me your top ten list of must-have rap CDs.  I'll post
>>: a summary of the responses I get.
>>: 
> this isnt a dis, but it seems like every time these questions get asked, we
> always answer with the newest stuff out, its like we forget that to understand 
> hip hop music it takes a little bit of goin back to some of the roots.
> i mean, most pop people cant really even comprehend that HAMMER doesn't rap.
> 
> we should try to get people just gettin into hip hop to listen to at least
> two or three older jams, like PLANET ROCK(since you can find it), or even
> the old new school, like BDP CRIMINAL MINDED, or EPMD STRICTLY BUSINESS, or
> PUBIC ENEMY YO! BUM RUSH THE SHOW and IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS.

Agreed. I think a must-have as far as albums are concerned is Tommy Boy's
greatest Beats (I think that's what it's called..). It has a collection
of some back to the roots hip hop tracks like Afrika Bambaataa etc.

Check that one out.. (If y'all can find it!)

PEACE

====================================================          ___
             syawanar@cc.curtin.edu.au                       /  /
=============> If it moves, FUNK it! <==============       o/ o/
From: v523d85n@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C Maggio)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Fab 5 Freddy
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Didn't ICE-T say something good about MC Household tool on a spoken track
>on Original Gangster? I can't remember what though,haven't listened to that one in
>ages. But, Fredde, maybe you don't consider ICE-T as "real"?
>				-Palle Zetterstrand

yeah it's onn a track called M.V.P's where he's basically giving shout outs to
everybody.  he says at the very end "this goes out to the one and only MC
HAMMER, a lot of people dis you,man, they just jealous...FUCK EM"
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: af185@yfn.ysu.edu (Robin L. Gibson)
Subject: Re: Should we diss Hammer (Was Re: Fab 5 Freddy)
Reply-To: af185@yfn.ysu.edu (Robin L. Gibson)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:20:44 GMT


In a previous article, dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) says:

>In article <1992Sep9.195428.22243@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia A. Reed 
>writes:
I>I say we put Hammer and Paula Abdul together and just let them dance each
>other to death - and tape their mouths shut so they don't sing or rap or
>nothing.
>
>>                                        Peace out to y'all,
>>                                                      LX
>
I say "WORD."
-- 
Robin L. Gibson          gibson@email.ncsc.navy.mil

Coastal Systems Station
Panama City, FL  32407-5000
From: gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:16:29 GMT
Subject: Where the F... are they ?
Organization: The Edge of Sanity
Newsgroups: alt.rap


 'Sup Yo,

 Has anyone checked out any of the following albums yet??, release dates
 & reviews if possible....

 Grand Puba (what the fuck happened to his hair!!)

 Positive K (this must be out somewhere, but i still ain't seen it)

 Serch

 Chubb Rock 

 And i out, Later.

 Peace to the D.I.P ( Dope International Posse !? ), you know who you are...

 GavinM, DaveP, Fedde, ATB, Michele & Myself Yo!
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Samplers...
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Everyone I have talked to has told me that those samplers on those DJ mixers
are bullshit.  And if your looking to use one for sampling work on some
production, it seems like they are missing features.  There is a company that
just came out with an 8-second sampler that is crazy small and about 200 
beans.  It is...(gotta go find the info)...The PDM-301 Digital Sampling 
Processor from KLS, and so far its been getting pretty decent reviews.  Other
than that a decent 8 second sampler should run you around 250-300 beans, and 
then I think you move up into the $500+ range if you start talking 12second 
and up samplers.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: VIBE Magazine
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:50:14 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
:
|[...] And the fact they
|mentioned Chubb Rock's new album as his fourth (you don't now *how* many 
|magazines and people do not know Chubbs had an album in '88 with, 'DJ
|Innovator,' and the original, 'Caught Up,' on it).

An who of course can forget that hideous Chubb Rock/Howie Tee/Domino
collaboration, Rock'n'roll Dude back in, what was it, 87. This is the
record that name-checked Paul McCartney. No shit. And of course we all
know that the only way to name-check the Beatles is King-Of-Rock-style...

|Definately a magazine to check out.

Is it check-out-able in the UK? Does is offer non-US subscriptions?

Tx. [``there's three of us but we're not the Beatles'' -- masterful lyrics]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Breaks!
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:47:33 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN


 Thought it was time to put together one more list with good rap songs
 and the sources from which the rappers draw their inspiration.

     Sampler             track name       Victim         track name

  10)New Generation MC's-Toutes les memes The Meters-Chicken Strut
   9)Paris-Escape from Babylon            Afrika Bambaata-Jazzy Sensation
   8)Divine Styler-Divinity Stylistics    Curtis Mayfield-Superfly
   7)A Tribe Called Quest-Can I kick it   Lou Reed-Walk on the wildside
   6)X-Clan-Raise the flag                Roy Ayers-Red,Black&Green
   5)De La Soul-Potholes in my lawn       War-Magic mountain
   4)Caveman-Introduction to a caveman    Johnny Hammond-Shifting gears
   3)Cypress Hill-How I could just kill a man    Lowell Fulson-Tramp
   2)Too $hort-So you wanna be a gangster Grover Washington Jr-Black Frost
   1)Poor Righteous Teachers-Selfstyled wisdom   War-Slipping into darkness

 I have tried to take samples used as an integral part of the rhythm. X-Clan
 use the first part of the song including the refrain while the others just
 use a bar or two of the songs. Does anyone know which break Lord Finesse
 used on "Bud Mutha"? ICE T also used this on the track You played yourself.
                                                 -Palle Zetterstrand
From: ndb034@nov.hb.se (Jesper Hgstrm CMB-K/CRR)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: BodyCount and Ice T
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:55:25 GMT
Organization: Gothenburg Universities' Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep11.081527.5744@spider.co.uk> gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum) writes:


>Does anyone know what's happening with the BodyCount tour in the uk?..

From what I've heard from MTVNews and some Swedish papers his entire 
Europeean tour was cancelled. Not because of the anti-BodyCount movement but 
for Ice T having business to do back home (don't remember what it was)


//Jay1
From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: PE out tommorrow!
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:28:01 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Well It seems that 'The greatest misses' will be out tommorrow!
My man at the Record Store said that the Vinyl will only drop once (tommorrow)
(USA PRess)
There will also be a 12" coming out tommorrow. (That 'criminal' something?)
I saw the Cover of the LP and apparantly It will be a double album (again!)
The first record got some new shit, and the second has some old.
I think this will be the last Public Enemy LP.
Fortunately I heard Chuck saying in an interview that hes is Plannig for 
his solo album and that it will be different from what youv'e heard before!
Sounds very promising....
I wouldn't miss T-X or Flavor that much..

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~           D  D  O  O  L   - RECORDS         
d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se     DDD    OO   LLLL   
Contact me about "Droppin Knowlede"/"Shut em Down" 12"!!!!      DOL-EP-1
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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: travgod@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (COP KILLER)
Subject: Re: NEW Y.B.T.?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:18:59 GMT

In article <92251.200419IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>  
writes:
>      Does anybody know when the Young Black Teenagers second album
> will be coming out?  Or is it already out?  I read something about
> them working on it a while ago.

On the same note, is Tommy Never still with them?
On the track "All My Love," Everlast gives them a shout-out and names them  
all except Tommy Never...