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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:51:26 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Economics question
              10 Sep 1992 20:53:30 EDT from <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>

>> If we pool our life savings and wire the proceeds to Torkel to invest
>> in Swedish debt instruments at the Riksbank's new 75% interest rate,
>> would we get an attractive yield (after transaction costs and Torkel's
>> management fee, of course)?  Would there be significant risk involved?
>
>Either I've missed something here or this is a new thread.  Could you
>explain more please.

   New thread, Graham.  I saw in the news that the Swedish Riksbank
   would now lend money to commercial banks at 75% (quite an astounding
   change from the 16% of a couple of days ago).  Something to do with
   protecting their currency from a run.  It made me think how incomplete
   my understanding of money is.  What could it possibly be like to
   borrow or lend money at 75%?  And the post above was in jest: I'm
   sure there's no way to speculate in Swedish krona with individual
   savings like mine.

   By the way, Torkel, could you flesh out the initialism SEK?

   brad
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:59:02 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EMAIL TO MY SCREEN--VILANELLE
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> Why not: rapists do too.

Rapists don't ask.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: family
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>>what Jill needs is a <sugar-daddy>

>Don't malign my neice, --ggs

  Thanks, Aunt Doris...family *can* be a trial, sometimes, eh?
  Perhaps my dear old dad confused me with someone else...I've
  heard that driving around too much with the top down can cause
  hallucinations...;-)

>> and if you think for a minute that <tc> would
>> put in a good word for *any* other woman, hold on......

>Not even your *daughter*?

  Don't even think about it, not for a minute...I'll get my new
  car when Publisher's Clearing House comes through with my cool
  $10 million.  Then both my new dad, and my old dad will be
  sorry!  Lovely presents for Aunt Doris, though...perhaps another
  European trip?

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:17:26 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Angling
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> >of the older (in this century, that is) meaning.  I would bet forty cans
> >of King Kuts that a poll of a less specialized group of students, say
>     ^^^^^^^^^
> I can only say that this is rank fishing for mention in Gleanings
> next.

King Kuts -- Bernard's second favorite brand of canned dogfood.  Mighty
Dog is his favorite.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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In-reply-to: Doris Smith's message of Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:50:55 -0500

Doris asks:

   > 	share my birthday (ggs, I recall that yours is next week, as is someone
   > 	else's on the list...).
   >
    Do tell us whose birthdays are coming up.  :-)

I believe today it's HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BUBBLEMEISTER!

You young, cheeky fella, you.

//anne, i was going to say _in virgo veritas_ but somehow i don't think
that conveys quite what i meant...//
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:41:01 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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	That doesn't make "huckle" a morpheme, however.  If "huckle" were a
	morpheme, it would be usable in other words.  That's the whole point of

Does huckle-bone count or do the meanings of 'huckle' have to be
the same in both cases?

G
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:46:01 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: wordsler birthdays
              10 Sep 1992 18:33:36 EDT from <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>

On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:33:36 EDT Graham Toal said:

>Birthday is a program which sets up an entry like that and mails a standard
>e-birthday-card to the recipient on their birthday.  You say something
>like:
>birthday natalie 12/25/92
>(I can't remember exactly because I haven't used it in years)

Sigh - is Unix another of those systems that has American-format dates
hard coded ?

Tony H.
(Who is looking forward to dates like 03/01/02)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:26:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Family Tree
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> > Right.  Giggles is my blood uncle.
> >                         o/.\____/
> >          -- Bernard      \______|
> >                          / \  / \
>
> Bernard, I don't know about you, but I can hardly wait for my little blue
> Miata to arrive...I'm sure Uncle Giggles would want me to have one.
> ndh

It's arriving in the mail right *after* the Niemann-Marcus cookies.
--ggs  (c.o.d....)
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:55:52 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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              07 Sep 92 11:40:17 -0400. <9209071545.AA09009@sics.se>

  Karen:

  >I knew that he wasn't a butler, but I left it because I couldn't remember
  >what it was called, even though I still need one.  But I think that's why
  >I blanked--I'm not a a gentleman.

  Right. Ladies, in Bertie's world, only have maids or butlers.

  >But--Jeeves is not a mindless twit.  Bertie is.  Jeeves could get another
  >job in a minute, but chooses not to--how is he dependent on Bertie?

  In the sense that Jeeves is funny and interesting only through his tie to
Bertie Wooster. Without Bertie, Jeeves would be just a boring personal valet
with boring convictions about socks and cummerbunds. How many employers would
say to Jeeves to "tell Marcus Aurelius from me the next time you see him that
he is an idiot"?

  By the way, for you Wodehousers: does Jeeves have a first name? If so,
what is it? And when are we told about it?
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:18:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[4]: the world's oldest profession
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>>     My housemate recently met someone from Hillary's law firm.  What
>>     her colleague had to say about her:  "She's a great, great lady
>>     -- and as strong as horseradish."  I call that a handsome
>>     compliment.

>Did I say she wasn't?  Or that you aren't?

     Did I comment on what you were or weren't saying?  I was just
     repeating an anecdote I found amusing.

     Believe me, Mka, when I'm arguing with you, you'll know it.

     Carol
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 09:29:31 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIHC
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              Sep 12, 92 9:02 am

Please ignore my previous post - it just proves that sleep deprivation
is finally getting to me and I have finally lost it...them...all my
brain cells, that is..
>
> And I thought *I* was absent-minded!
> What a great story.
>
> Agnes
>
Still think it's a great story. A.
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:08:23 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Consciouness raising+ (was gleanings 58)
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              at Sep 7, 92 9:32 am

>
> >     ...Asked about who were the most impressive persons to photograph, he
> >named Jodie Foster, Isabella Rossellini and Anjelica Huston for not only
> >their beauty but for their uniqueness, intelligence and strength.
> >     "The quality about these women is like a man's.  Their mind is just
> >like a man's, but they are very feminine.  That contrast interests me,"
> >said Rolston...
>
> The idea of "Her xxx is just like a man's" being a compliment
> is fascinating. When I was a teen, I bought into this, and I'm
> still angry at my young self, and at the culture that caused me
> to accept this kind of "compliment".

Worse still, and far more damaging, is buying into the corollary: that
if you are a woman, you can ONLY  be...etc. And of course, the
treatment women get (even in the enlightened 90s, possibly more than
ever, for male defensive reasons) only confirms this, good grades
notwithstanding...and how long can those good grades last in this emotional
climate?) I think the worst thing is that women are not EXPECTED
to do well, and as a result, they  accept the fairy story
of having the OPTION of not doing well, of there being an alternative
to being competent...(i.e. the knight in shining armour, kids, family
happily ever after etc....) So, even the female person is not
*blocked* outright, the effects of this benevolent neglect can be
devastating: I've seen it in some friends and my heart goes out,
having struggled to overcome it m'self...

To those of you to knom this is old hat, my apologies...Sadly, each
of us have to re/discover these social truths for ourselves...

>
> What Rolston is saying is that Jodie, Isabella, and Anjelica
> are intelligent and strong, unlike all other women, who are stupid
> and weak, and like all men, who are intelligent and strong.
>
> This statement may be a compliment to the three women named, but
> it is one hell of a slur on all the rest of us.

But we (males and females as well) buy, it en masse. We *still* do.

>
> Consciousness raising,
> judith

Good on ya....

Agnes
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 09:14:54 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz
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> God, I didn't think I'd remember this, they are such a completely featureless
> incidents.
>
> tushar

Amazingly, we remember the strangest things.  Tushar, arithmatic in your
language is either not the same as arithmatic in my language or you are
pulling the proverbial leg again.  And if I've been "took" again, Bayla,
help me, please......
Doris
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:15:58 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Over-the-counter language
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> you can do much the same thing with a card that's nearly empty - just
> watch the display counting down.

That's not nearly as much fun.  Also, you can't budget as well with a
card.  I liked deciding in advance how many francs I would talk, getting
exactly the right change, and watching the coins fall.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Visiting LA and Chicago
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 18:22:54 GMT
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WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM (WERTSJ) writes:
> Manhattan Beach?

Redondo Beach, just across the street from MB.  I could
throw an Aerobie from my place and hit Manhattan Beach.

>>(except the [fish] that bites me when I clean the tank)
> Yow!  Not carnivorous, I hope?

Omnivorous.  I don't think this fish is trying to eat me.
It's just defending territory.  As long as it doesn't
seem to be able to break the skin I don't worry.

--karsten

(It's surprising how much territory this 2" fish claims!)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:42:41 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Zen
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On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU wrote:

> Ignorance shows again. What is an E-zine. Where does one
> find it to read it?  Marilyn

Dear ghod, won't *somebody* please send mgarber Kehoe's book so she can
CLUE already!

-abh
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In a previous article, TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU (Theresa Wild) says:

>Sorry Ruth, knew I forgot something.  The fist week of school is
>hectic.
You're preaching to the converted; my mother taught school for a dozen years,
and now works in the University of Hartford Admissions office.  I've heard it
all, from various sources.:-)  Not to mention six years plus of post-high 
school education of my own....  Hectic isn't the word for it....

>         Look forward to seeing them, thanks.
	Will put them in the mail tomorrow, providing someone remembers to
stuff the envelope in the mailbox.:-)

Ruth

-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:08:38 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: The wonders of telecom
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              92 11:38 am

> 		I think that women make better use of this aspect in general
> 	than most of the men I've run across on the net.  I'm on 3 or 4
> 	different women's mailing lists, and boy, I'll tell ya, shared
> 	knowledge is a powerful thing.
>
> You mean backstabbing gossip in private where the gossipee has
> no power to correct misunderstandings or lies?  I'm sure in this
> case you know all about the person down to what color of socks he wears,
> but I've seen personally what happens when women on the net get together
> to do someone down just because he offended one of their friends.

	No, Graham.  You know, men always flatter themselves
unecessarily (laughably, actually) by thinking all we do is discuss
them in our little private circles.

	You reveal too much about yourself with this assumption.  Well,
no -- we all know how paranoid you are without this pointer.

	This is a professional concern, and I'm gathering information
that will aid in handling the situation best from other professionals.


Rita
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:12:07 -0500
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      The Devil Was Beating His Wife Today...
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...which means, of course, that it rained while the sun was still shining.

Does anyone else know/use this particular saying (besides my mother, who
taught it to me)?  Any variations?  Does anyone have any idea where this
saying came from?

Just curious...

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:35:09 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: wordsler birthdays
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> >> Duly noted.  When is Natalie's?
> >She's giving up birthdays because the next one has a bad ring to it.
>
> Ah, the dreaded f-word. When I face mine, it will also be The Turn
> of the Century. EEK! Bill

Hmmmmm.  You are making assumptions....  How do you know I wasn't talking
about reaching 30?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: One of Two Jokes

Hi maya,

First my condolences on your Ram's performance.  As a charter mourner of
the Tampa Bay Bucs I can relate to loosing....badly and often.  But, if
Sam has to use needles, incense, magic spells, whatever, then so be it!
The Bucs *did* win, and fairly convincingly (sorry John :-().  As it has
been about 10 years since Bucs have had a winning season, we are grateful
for anything ...and right now they are undefeated!  So next miracle will
be to beat Green Bay this weekend ....I can't recall the last time the
Bucs won an away game ....kind of sad as only games I can watch live on
TV are away games (home games only on TV when sold out ...ha!!!).

PS.  Was Muffy fooling with E-MAIL?  I had left PC unguarded and he looked
kind of sheepish when I came in here ....looked kind of guilty.  He knows
he is not to fool with PC when I'm not around.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date: 10 Sep 92 01:35:00 GMT
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Like I've always said, look up your family tree, and you'll find some of
your relatives dangling from it by either their necks or their tails!

John MW, who's mother was his cousin and grandmother was his aunt, and
if anyone wants to know the grisly details ask Peace Don - I'd rather
allign myself with you guys any day!  "Not only is blood thicker than
water, but it's TASTIER, too!"
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Greetings,

Fine.  Go grade your papers.  I'll hear the rest of this tale when I tune
in to Wheel of Math, featuring ggs and Vanna Binomial.  Meanwhile, it's
on to Hydrosphere for me.

Marty
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: RICHH: PLOOK!
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>     Was drinking at Paul's bar the other day when I scribbled out
>this series on a napkin:

>1
>11
>21
>1211

>It's called The Gleichniszahlen-Reihe Monster, which is German for
>"the likeness sequence", I believe.  I heard of it from a local

>     He said, "Kinda neat.  One.  One one.  Two ones.  One two and
>one one.  Next line's one one, one two, two ones--111221."

	Now, I ain't no mathematician or nuttin, and I can see how you could
	give 111221 as the next number in the sequence.  But what's wrong with

		3112

	as the next number?  It seems to me that it would make a much more
	<elegant> progression (note that I parsed both series from left to
	right):

1             1
11            11
21            21
1211          1211
3112          111221
132112        312211
312213        13112221
232122        1113213211
421311        31131211131221
14123113      13211311123113112211
41141223      11131221133112132113212221
24312213      3113112221232112111312211312113211
32142321      1321132132111213122112311311222113111221131221
23322114      11131221131211131231121113112221121321132132211331222113112211
32232114
23322114  } Note that this series actually 'converges' to this pair of factors!
32232114  }

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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: wordsler birthdays

>       Is it time to place a birthday list in WORDS-L's FTP area?

One birthday I didn't see on your list was that of Karen Kay (sorry,
I don't know her last name).  April 10, I believe.

Michael E. Macmillan (macmillm@ewc)
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Subject:      Open

This item in today's paper:

A 1986 USF graduate (master in administration) was killed last week.  He
was a teacher of gifted sixth, seventh and eigth grade children in a
Lakeland school.  The night he was killed, he was returning from
leading a choir practice in a local Baptist Church, where he served as
interim music director.  He was shot in the back of the head as he
drove on I-275, by one of two teenagers (19 & 16) in another car.  The
reason:  The teenagers did not like the way the man was driving and
looking at them.  The case was broke by an anonymous tip last night.

And Dawn wonders why I tell her not to get in confrontations with
other drivers.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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> I had an experience yesterday in the computer writing lab that would make
> a good <giggles> story, and that illustrates why I'm quite often <in a
> fog> these days.  I was able to tell it (actually act it out) to my last
> class of the day and the were ROTFL, but my words alone can't do it
> justice. Any <ghost writers> around?
> Doris

I, for one, want to *hear* this story.  We can judge for ourselves
sis dear if it would make a good <giggles> story.  Out with it!
And please do not mention <ghosts>.... it makes the two Agneses
uncomfortable....  they have trouble deciding which is which.
Because they don't read all their mail.
--ggs
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