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From: ak441@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Suter)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Conservatives and the religous right!!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 05:31:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ak441@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Suter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, taurus@agora.rain.com (Scott Burch) says:

>Just some thoughts that occured to me the other day.  Some of the things
>that the gay community have been accused of are everyday practice by
>the religous right.  At the hotel that my lover works at, there is a religous
>group that is having "leadership" meetings.  That actually means "recruiting"
>meetings.  Our community is accused of being the ones to recruit...

Never thought of it that way, but how else does any group get new 
members other than recruiting?  (well, not gays, because they are 
born that way :-)

What galls me is the door to door "recruiting" where they haul the kids 
along, thinking you wouldn't dare slam the door in their faces and tell
them to get off your property.  Sure....
From: dgm@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Debby Morley)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: k.d. and jackie
Summary: She IS Katherine
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:03:05 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service

In article <1993Jan6.233727.19055@hulaw1.harvard.edu>, salomon@hulaw1.harvard.edu writes:
> hi
> in response to the inquery about "jackie" on the rosanne show.  I saw
> two episodes where she is a lesbian.  I mean , if Jackie is the 
> person I am thinking of. She is the friend of Roseanne and her sister, 
> played by the actress Sara Bernheart.  She told Roseanne and her sister
> k.d. lang is definately a lesbian..  I mean really, i though that was
> common knowledge.  have you heard the song about Catherine?

That song is about herself!  Her name is Katherine.

I saw k.d. in concert last October.  She is wonderful.  

She came out in _The Advocate_ about 6 or 8 months ago.
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Conservatives and the religous right!!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:00 CST
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
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In article <C0Cv3s.2vK@exnet.co.uk>, s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes...
}When we recruit (if, indeed we do) it is a curruption of innocence.
}When  a religeon recruits it is 'enlightenment'.  I fail really to
}see much difference as both (by the nature of religeon) involve sex.

Another way to state it could be that the claimed 'recruiting' of gays is
an "opening of eyes" to alternatives, whereas the Church (meaning the general
Christian 'organized' religion) 'conversions' are more a blinding of the
eyes and mind to other opinions. Of course, if it isn't obvious, I'm a bit
biased against the Church (especially since my little sister was sent to the
Philipines [pardon the spelling if it is in error -- don't if it isn't] back
before Pinatubo erupted to convert the Catholic natives [which had, of course,
been converted to Catholicism from their own local deities quite a while back]
to Church of Christ). While I don't agree with the concept of gays 'recruiting'
members in general, there are probably some gays who do 'attempt' this (though
it is more likely that anyone who 'enlists' after being recruited already had
some gay leaning).

}Personally I think worship is fine if you choose the right object.

I hate the Church, but have no problems with Christianity in general, nor with
any other religion (as long as it is based on the *individual*, rather than
"organized" like the Mob... ;).

}Like.... me, for example.  I would make a fabulous god.  Funny, handsome
}liberal and not at all religeous in any common sense.

Great. Just what we need -- a god with a sense of humor. Next thing you know
you'll be creating Platypi and giving anti-gay evangelists names such as
"Oral Roberts". And then there's that bit about the common sense... <grin> 

 - Dave Martin - Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M - 
 - DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU - DBM@AOL.COM -- My views, my life, my right... -
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From: cbratton@rock.concert.net (Charley C Bratton -- Microspace Communication -- R/D)
Subject: Re: Raleigh-Durham, Here I cum!
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:33:03 GMT

Jim,

I still can't seem to get mail through to you.  Please drop me 
a letter that I can simply respond to.  And I was going to accuse 
you of being a dizzy blonde!

Charley

.
From: harris@cs.unc.edu (Trey Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Raleigh-Durham, Here I cum!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:10:54 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: gallium.cs.unc.edu

In article <1993Jan7.161746.16455@mcs.anl.gov> nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde) writes:
>you can e-mail me at: GATEWAY::"NASIATKA@ANHEP3.ANL.GOV.BITNET"
>                       BITNET::"NASIATKA@ANLHEP.ANL.GOV"

Neither of these addresses seem to work.  I attempted them the last
time you wrote about this, too.  Could you send me an email address
that works?

Thanks.
Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!
From: org4688@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Lesbian Songs
Date: 6 Jan 1993 02:38 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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Does anyone know where I can find lesbian ballads?
You see I have a friend who would like to hear or see
anything romantic for lesbians.  Lately most things
that dare broach the subject of lesbian love are 
prone to portray lesbian love as something psycotic
and not romantic.
For Example,  "Basic Instincts" (Although a likeable movie)
If there are any lesbian love songs or romantic movies out there
I cannot find any so maybe someone out in the net can help me.
As an example of what I seek if anyone has seen 
"Torch Song Trilogy" something along those lines is what I look
for.  On a side note I have these burning questions to ask:

Is Sophie B. Hawkins a lesbian?
Is k.d. lang a lesbian?
Is Shakesphere's Sister a pair of lesbians?
Melissa Ethridge?
"Jackie" on the "Roseanne" Show?
"Darlene" from the same show?
By the way if Shakesphere's Sister is composed of lesbians how did they
have (each) one child?
Whitney Houston who is married to Bobby Brown but live in separate 
houses, is she lesbian?  I am told that marriage is sometimes used
as a celebrity cover up to keep one closeted and throw off suspicion.

The purpose of my posing these questions is for my behalf.
I am curios to know that since I am attracted to all these women
mentioned above.  Not meaning to attach importance to my sexuality
but I am hetero and extremely pro gay.
Anyways I am attracted to all these women mentioned above and in
certain circles here they are all suspected or confirmed lesbians so
I want to know ... what is it about these lesbian women that 
attracts me to them.  I had no Idea my friend was a lesbian and yet
I was drawn to her before she told me she was.  I also met another
whom after much thought I suspect she was lesbian too (she knew a lot
about gay books and pro gay cities).


I appreciate any responses to this , especially the love songs and movies
in particular (redundant phrase), Thank you in advance...

By the way how do you post those "post script" messages and quotes to
the end of articles?
:
From: salomon@hulaw1.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: k.d. and jackie
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:37:27 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

hi
in response to the inquery about "jackie" on the rosanne show.  I saw
two episodes where she is a lesbian.  I mean , if Jackie is the 
person I am thinking of. She is the friend of Roseanne and her sister, 
played by the actress Sara Bernheart.  She told Roseanne and her sister
that she was a lesbian.  It was really funny because she also said that
she didnt want to tell them because she was afraid about the way they would
react.  Roseanne responded, "well, we'll react the way we react to anything
else personal you tell us... we'll make fun of it until it gets old, then
we'll move on"

k.d. lang is definately a lesbian..  I mean really, i though that was
common knowledge.  have you heard the song about Catherine?
-Steve
From: scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Telephone peeves
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:23:35 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <1i8uo5INN9ce@news.umbc.edu>, motteler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Howard E. Motteler) writes:
> 
> The one time I didn't get a deadbeat, I got the number of a
> family with a much sought after teenage daughter.  I got regular
> calls for 'Ronda Ryan' for a semester or so.  These eventually
> dwindled, perhaps because I always tried to answer in a helpful
> fashion, e.g,
> 
>   "Is Ronda there?"  
>   "No she's in the shower right now.  Who's this?"
>   "Tom."
>   "Oh, *Tom*.  Well, this is her brother." (No idea if she
> had a brother, but maybe neither did Tom.)  "She said that she's
> leaving her window unlatched for you, and just come on by sometime
> after 11:30 tonight."
>   "Oh wow! ok!"



	I got a call (wrong # of course) the other night from someone 
looking to score some of the devil weed.  I went along with it, saying 
that I was feeling particularly generous, and would bring it to his
house myself.  I told him to just sit tight.


scooter



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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Personally, I blame Chris Baldwin
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:36:06 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Edinburgh University

Since I'm pretty sure it was he who first mentioned the "Civilisation"
game for the PC and told me how addictive it was.

So, having seen the game in the shops, I bought it as a belated solstice
present to me. I figured I'd start out the year by being nice to
someone, and I seemed the best option :-)

So I had a quick peek at the manual - a set of rules and explanation
that reads longer than most comp manuals - and at 6pm on Saturday I
figured I'd go in and give it a quick try before the cinema.

Ha!

The time for the cinema had long gone by and with the advent of the Steam
Engine things were beginning to get interesting. I figured I'd just play
a bit longer to see what happened.

So around 11am, I finally get home to bed.

Peeve: being a perfectionist. The Germans beat me to the spaceship
because I wanted to built a better one.

My SO has shown some understanding and most of our arguments now center
on my penchant for building more Settlers - if I go to make us coffee,
I'm sure she alters the production targets of the cities. Maybe it's
infectious *and* addictive.

It's not that I don't have a life, it's just that I no longer have time
for it :-(

Mike "dark rings under eyes" Holmes

So, when attacking enemy cities, is it a good plan to just attack, or is
it better to pillage stuff outside and wait for the units inside to get
disbanded?
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Did we read the same book?
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:48:13 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

nolan@twg.com (Bennett Cerf?) writes:

>I just hope the movie version of _Rendesvous with Rama_ turns out as well as
>the novel.

>!Peeve: reading _Rendesvous with Rama_ at least five times

Peeve: The second Rama book. It wasn't just bad enough in itself, it was
bad enough to spoil my memory of the first one.

BonusPeeve: They're writing more Rama books.

Let's just hope they don't do a film of 2061.

FoFP
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Shoe goo
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:23:20 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <29961@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
[Got himself a new pair of shoes]
>
>Imagine my horror when, preparing bottles of infant formula, I shook one, and
>gallons of milk cascaded over my feet covering the elegant soft leather with
>white guck.


Um the kind of milk you were using comes from the same beast whose hide
made those shoes. (Unless your wife is capable of producing gallons....
never mind. The mind boggles at the Paronesque image.) So, its no big
deal. You mop the stuff off, reshine them and walk around in shoes that
smell a wee bit like cheese.

Peeve: I am the suede killer. I love suede shoes but I destroy them 
terribly.

ER
--
"Peevers bite, though painful, is not deadly. Males often battle one
another. There are more grotesque appearing than dangerous."
		--Festive NM tarantula postcard edited by Dan Hillman
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Catholic University Censorship Peeve
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:38:01 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Well, the other shoe just dropped.
  
For those of you who care, I moved to a new town. Antigonish, Nova Scotia.
For those of you who took shots at Dal, this place is even worse. It is a
GoodOldFashionedCatholicSchool. Family Values from Hell, I suppose.

The more astute of you will notice that I am still posting from an account
@ac.dal.ca This is beacuse the Saint Francis Xavier University (are you all
getting an idea of HOW Catholic the school is?) won't yet allow News for
undergrads. And why is that, you might ask? Well, it is really very simple.
They are worries about the alt.s-e-x-.* newsgroups and all that evil online
pornography that might foul up the minds of their (im)pure little undergrads.
As a result they disabled Telnet, IRC, News, FTP, and just about everything
else except Email here.

Compuerdy!Peeve: They forgot about machines with Ethernet cards. I can still
reach my Dolthouse accounts and post until my Dal accounts run out, or until
someone finds out. I dont' think anyone here reads NEWS, so that's why I am 
mentioning the hole. I'm fairly certain they won't catch it.


Boy oh boy, I think I understand now why Skinhead O'Connor hates the Pope.
It seems rather ironic to me that in the Middle Ages, monasteries were the
centres of learning. These days, Catholic schools (at least this one) seems
more interested in keeping students from learning anything.

Luckily, if you already have an idea of what you are doing, you can easily
outdistance the people trying to censor you. 


Yours from the middle of nowhere

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Amy Buttafuoco)
Subject: Re: Darwin, a three-time loser (was: I Don't Care)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:11:51 GMT
Organization: ABBA Escort Services

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:

>bringing a
>quick end to the story, evolution-in-action was cheated of three
>richly deserving individuals when they were rescued a few days later.

Point to note: Mr. Stolpa was rescued while wandering around in the snow.  His
rescuer said to the press: "I wouldn't have even gone over there, except that
I thought he was a cow".  In other words, only a cow might've been so stupid.

-Dave
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From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: I Don't Care
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:31:22 GMT
Organization: FizzBall Racing
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

(Rick Gordon) writes:
>In article <1ifdkhINNnjl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>>>Peeve1:  Is it just me, or has this Amy Fisher business gone on far too long?

>>Didn't she play Princess Leia (sp?) in Star Wars?

>Hardly.  That was Amy *Irving* (Steven Spielberg's influence over George
>Lucas is legendary).

Shit, I don't even remember an Amy Irving character in Star Wars.  Ms.
Fisher must have been thrilled to play a character she shared a first
name with.

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
 by those who have not got it."
                                -- George Bernard Shaw
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Telephone peeves
From: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:52:20 GMT
Reply-To: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
 <1i8uo5INN9ce@news.umbc.edu> <1993Jan4.130546.23808@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Jan4.130546.23808@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth) writes:
>In article <1i8uo5INN9ce@news.umbc.edu> motteler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Howard E. Motteler) writes:
>>dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Archer) writes:
>>> Ever since I got this one phone line, I've always gotten an
>>> outrageous amount of wrong numbers.  [ details omitted ]
>>
>>A particularly obnoxious case is when you get stuck with a
>>number that collection agencies are hitting on.
>
>A related phenomenon that's always peeved hell out of me is having some
><feminine hygeine reservoir> dial your number by mistake, and then argue
>with you about it, never mind the gender or accent on the other end, or
>the acknowkedged wrongness of the number:
>
>*RING*
>--Hello? 
>--Is Debby there?
>--Uh, I think you've got the wrong number...
>--Is this 555-1234?
>--No it's 555-1432.
>--You're sure Debbie's not there?
>[etc.]

  A few months ago, I answered the phone and said "Hello?" in my normal
testosterone-laden, manly voice.  The voice on the other end said "Hello, 
Rhoda?"  If Rhoda sounds like me, I do not want to meet her.  She probably
has a beard, and could probably beat me up.

  Recently an old woman has been calling my apartment by mistake, and when 
I explain to her that Agnes is, in fact, not here, she starts in on a long-
winded apology, thereby wasting even _more_ of my time.

  Before that, some guy asking for Rodney kept calling.

  My old extension here at work was very close to the number of 
Communiversity, a program of non-credit courses offered as a service to the 
public.  I'd get about three or four calls a day from people wanting to 
enroll in classes such as Indo-tibetan lawn ornament weaving and small 
engine upholstery.  The fact that I answered the phone "Macintosh Support"
didn't seem to affect them one bit.

  !Peeve:  My answering machine message goes something like this: "Hi, you
have reached 931-6439.  This is a twenty second answering machine tape, so
I'd say you have about 15 more seconds to wait until the beep.  Please do so."
This evidently gives people enough time to clue in to the fact that they've 
dialed the wrong number, because there is nearly a 1:1 relevant message 
ratio when my wife and I come home each evening.

- Gerald Combs
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Holiday peeves
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:53:02 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <42981@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
writes:
>>Peeve #3:  Toshiba puts out a calendar for all employees every year.  In
>>           the past years, they've done well when selecting a topic:  one
>>           year, it included photos of the most beautiful places in the
>>           world; last year, it had some decent photos of paintings.  Well,
>>           this year, they completely spazzed and selected Ann of Green
>>           Gables as their topic.  What kind of Engineering Department
>>           do they think this is?
>
>	Hmmm. Is it Toshiba America or the Toshiba in Japan that
>made the calendar? The reason I ask is that for some reason 'Anne of
>Green Gables' is enjoying rabid popularity in Japan since last year
>at least. It has gone so far that there are guides for how to spend
>your vacation in the setting where the book was, and there is an
>amusement park/garden place called 'Anne's world' or some such which
>is supposedly a reproduction of Anne's village (albeit surrounded by
>rice fields, heh heh). Crazes like this are peevesome in general.

The calendar just says Toshiba.

Peeve:  Smarmy calendars.  Why couldn't Toshiba make some cool Japanese
        event/legend the basis of their calendar?  Something like the
        revenge of the 47 Ronin...or the life of Miyamato Musashi, the
        bitchenest swordsman who ever lived?

Bah, humbug (belated).

   don
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Man mauled by hamster
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:32:29 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <29931@castle.ed.ac.uk> egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page) writes:
~
~Peeve;  Clueless geophysicists who suffer from perverted
~field-fantasies.  

Hah. Being called "clueless" by a geologist is a bit like being called a
miserable tight-fisted anti-social git by a Scot.

Or like being called a demented libertarian fanatic by Mike Holmes.

But given that I could devote my fantasizing time to, say, Isabella Rossellini,
rather than the geo-bint who looks most like her (which is to say, not at all),
and given that neither one is likely to be gargling my jissom any time soon,
I'm not likely to waste good stain-making material on pulling my willy over
some grubby little baggage in thermal underwear, am I?




-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

This message cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Bloody good value if you ask me.
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From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (.*)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,can.politics,soc.culture.canada,talk.politics.animals,alt.tasteless.jokes
Subject: Seals - who gives a shit?
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:47:10 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

>Not long ago I saw a TV programme where everyone was moaning about what a
>bloody lot of seals there are in the North Sea, how they're breeding like
>crazy and eating all the fish.

!Peeve:
	The last time I was at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, one
	of the workers/docents was re-arranging the stuffed
	animals, many of which were really stuffed hand puppets.

	I grabbed one of the baby harp seals and, in my
	best seal-like voice, said:
		"Bartender, I'd like a Canadian Club on the rocks, please."
	
	Broke my girlfriend up, broke me up and she just had to laugh.
-- 
"And tell me, how did you come to have so many children?"
"Well, Groucho, I love my wife."
"I love my cigar too, but I take it out sometimes."
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Man mauled by lion
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:15:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young) writes:

>I'm looking forward to the day when one of these nutters climbs over the
>fence into the houses of parliament and throws some raw hand-grenades to
>the occupants.

Yeah, but doesn't it worry you that they might run for parliament? Or
worse, that they already have?

>  Pete Young        	  pky@fmg.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 227151

FoFP
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