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Subject:      National Archives microfilm
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From: ak385@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Green)
Subject: RE: American Genealogical Lending Library
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Besides the AGLL, another excellent source for census microfilm is the
microfilm rental program of the National Archives.  They ship the same
day the order is received, the film is the best quality you will get, as
it is a first generation copy, and the prices are reasonable.  They have
a varied price structure: 1-4 rolls, $3; 5-9 rolls, $2.50; 10 or more,
$2.  For orders over 3 rolls, postage is free, less than 3 rolls, $3
postage and handling.  You can keep them for 30 days.

There is a $25 enrollment fee, and for this you get all the census
catalogs, a catalog of Revolutionary War records, two pamphlets on using
the Archives, a 10% discount on selected Archives publications, and two
coupons good for free rentals on you first two rolls.

The address?

National Archives
Microfilm Rental Program
PO Box 30
Annapolis Junction, MD 20701-0030
(301)604-3699



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* Bill Green, Minot, North Dakota    ak385@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu *
*                  green%milo@plains.NoDak.Edu                   *
*  Researching:  ANHORN, KOHOUTEK, KOTCHIAN, HAVLENA, MARSCHALL  *
*    WILSON, BROWN, REED, IDE, MASON, GLEASON, COOK, LAMB        *
From: Robert.Haack@p242.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Haack)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Network Help
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:59:57

TO: TPC@Grove.IUP.Edu
 TC> Austin [TX] Community College - Southwest Campus.  You may
 TC> information?  Is Austin Community College on the network?
   Tom, if all else fails, there are several BBS on the FIDOnet that are in
   the Austin, Texas area.  I have relayed mail to Austin in the past, but
   I don't maintain any logs after mail is sent.  I would be sure that someone
   at the location would be willing to allow use of their PC.

   What really caught my eye, is the school name.  Are you sure you have the
   school right?  There are several confusions in the state that frequently
   cause problems:
     AC-  Austin College   (Sherman, Texas)
     ACC- Abilene Christian College (Abilene, Texas)
   I know that AC (Sherman, Texas) is NOT on the Internet or BITnet presently.

   You might want to send a message to Cliff Manis (You will likely see his
   name on any of the many FAQ messages he sends...)  Cliff lives in Austin,
   and being on the net he may have a better chance of finding some other local
   connections.  (cmanis@csoftex.csf.com)

   Robert Haack
   rdh@ocitor.fidonet.org
   rdh@p242.f4115.n124.z1.fidonet.org




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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Genealogy software info (BK)
From: <WBWQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 00:06:52 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

My apologies to Mr.Asano, Mr.Haak & others. It seems I wasn't specific in
my request for information. The BK5 I saw was probably obsolete.I'll try
to look at a newer version from the mirrors, if I can.
Perhaps this explains why this BK5 can'tseem to index on individual surnames
nor accept individual surnames. Also, while this BK5, like any prog, can
be displayed by any monitor, it can't seem to provide SVGA quality graphics,
allowing for a more readable look at the "forest" instead of many screens of
"trees" (relatives). I'll give it another try. Thanks again.
P.S. "Individual surnames": Not all names have the same structure.
e.g. Spanish names:
  <first name> [middle name(s) optional] <paternal surname><maternal surname>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:36:34 EDT
Reply-To:     Patricia.A.Crossett@DARTMOUTH.EDU
From:         Patricia.A.Crossett@DARTMOUTH.EDU
Subject:      Dartmouth College help
Comments: To: "ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Hi-

A long time ago someone out there in netland asked me to check on a relative
who had worked in some fashion at Dartmouth College early this century as I
remember.  I was unable to find any information at the time it was requested
but a new database has been formed and I may be able to help now.

Please send me mail and I will try again.

Pattie

crossett@mac.dartmouth.edu
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:04:34 EST
Reply-To:     "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
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From:         "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject:      New York ward identification question

Hello again,

Does anyone have a clue as to which ward (for 1910 census) someone would
be living in if their address were Avenue B, lower east side of Manhattan,
New York City?

Thanks for any help.

Regards,
Bill Veselik    WCVESEB@VCCSCENT
From: jacobus@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Bryan J. Maloney)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Using the LDS database.
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:11:45 GMT
Organization: Purdue University



I've a question to pose to this newsgroup:

My town has an LDS (Mormon) genealogical center, and a former employer of mine
(who is LDS) suggested that I use it to help with my genealogical research.


My question is just how good are these centers?
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:36:29 EDT
Reply-To:     "Brian Abernathy" <cba@EWS002B.ATL.HP.COM>
From:         "Brian Abernathy" <cba@EWS002B.ATL.HP.COM>
Subject:      Family Puzzlers address
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

I called my local library for the current address of Family Puzzlers.  Here
it is:

        Family Puzzlers
        Heritage Papers
        170 Windsor Court
        Athens, GA   30606


Hope this helps.


                                                Brian Abernathy
                                                Hewlett-Packard Company
                                                Atlanta Response Center
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:25:41 -0700
Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dutch information
Comments: To: Johan deBoer <jdboer@SOL.UVIC.CA>
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              <ROOTS-L%NDSUVM1.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>

I am aware of one group that is dedicated to Dutch Family Research called the:

			Dutch Family Heritage Society
			2463 Ledgewood Dr.
			West Jordan, UT  84084
			(801) 967-8400
			Pres:  Mary Jane Spijkerman Parker

			Founded:  1987	Members:  200

Although I am not a member of this group I have seen copies of their
quarterly newsletter and it seemed very good to me.  Very nicely put
together with interesting articles.  [Address information courtesy of the
Encyclopedia of Associations, 1993, 27th ed. published by Gale Research Inc.]
Hopes this helps!

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992, Johan deBoer wrote:

> Hello,
> I was wondering if there are genealogical societies or other
> groups that are dedicated to researching information about immigrants
> into the US from the Netherlands.
> Thanks for any reaction.
>
> Johan de Boer
> jdboer@sol.uvic.ca
> D
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:07:17 PDT
Reply-To:     Robert Paul Monschke <Robert.Monschke@ENG.SUN.COM>
From:         Robert Paul Monschke <Robert.Monschke@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      Immigrant ship routes to Galveston, Texas
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

My ancestors came through the port of Galveston Texas on
October 4-5, 1884 according to my several of my relatives
naturalization records.

Family recollections/history is that they came from the port
of Hamburg to Galveston.

I have search the Hamburg passenger list from April, 1994
until December, 1884 and not found any record.

The Galveston ship records were destroyed by the hurricane
in 1900.  I have checked the New York ship records and determined
that they did not stop there.

What I would like to know is what were the major ship routes
from Breman and Hamburg to Galveston.

Were there any which were direct from Hamberg or Bremen to
Galveston?

What ports might they have stopped at "other than New York" on
the way to Galveston.

Paul
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Standard Abrreviations for geographical areas 
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:19:03 +0000


In article <5304@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> alan@essex.ac.uk writes:

> In Britain there is a standard (BS 6879:1987) for the abbreviation of
> County names in England Scotland and Wales. 
> There is also a standard (BS 5374:1981) for the abbreviation of National
> names. This is not entirely suitable for genealogy, as it only covers
> nations existing in 1981,

I presume that a British Standard promulgated in 1987 will only deal with
the counties then (now) in existance. What is about those counties (such as
Rutland) which have been subsumed into bigger ones? Are names included
retrospectively? What about the changes in county boundaries? Are they
included?

-------------------------------------------------------------
Trevor Jenkins                                   Radio: G6AJG
134 Frankland Rd, Croxley Green, Rickmansworth, WD3 3AU
email: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk
phone: +44 (0)923 776436

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:31:56 PDT
Reply-To:     Bryan Lockwood <system@COLDBOX.COJONES.COM>
From:         Bryan Lockwood <system@COLDBOX.COJONES.COM>
Subject:      Jennifer's subscription
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.edu

Could you please discontinue the subscription of the ROOTS-L listserv to
Jennifer (whomever), 2-7419@wwiv.cojones.com.

Jennifer didn't know it at the time she subscribed, but all of her traffic is
travelling via my WWIV<>Internet gateway at great cost to me. I pay a
commercial provider (UUNET) for my uucp feed, and I also pay long distance
charges to move this stuff to the nearest WWIVnet node. This ROOTS-L stuff
has more than doubled my packet sizes for the past two days. The gateway is
for regular mail only.. I would be quickly forced to close the gateway
completely if many people began using listservs or mailservers.

Yesterday I informed Jennifer (whom I do not know) of the problem via email
and asked her to send a cancellation request. Tonight I looked over the logs
and decided I'd better put the brakes on this now! My next email will be to
Jennifer, informing her that I have sent this message.

Although I have some measures in place which generally stop listserv
subscriptions from getting through, somehow hers slipped by. I'm not sure
why. But I'd appreciate it if you could deny any future requests for
subscription which come from within the cojones.com domain.

I appreciate your time and attention to this matter.

-----
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: PAF Text Editing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:35:06 GMT

If I understand the PAF manual correctly, it appears that the only way
to use an external editor on notes files is to store those notes
separately.  It looks like that also requires that every record be
numbered.

Does anyone know of a way to export PAF notes to a file, edit them on
something that's a little more friendly than the PAF editor, and then read
them back into the record?

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 |Don Wiggins                         |            _Researching_        |
 |306 East Franklin                   |       WIGGINS, STALEY, HALL,    |
 |Fisher, IL  61843-9440              |       BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE,      |
 |email:  wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |       PARK(E), CHANCE, MUNRO....|
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:48:00 EDT
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From:         "EMIS2::REEDL" <reedl%emis2.decnet@GW1.HANSCOM.AF.MIL>
Subject:      GENESYS & LDS DATA
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                          E L E C T R O N I C   M A I L
                     (DDN Host Address:  GW1.HANSCOM.AF.MIL)

                                        Date:      03-Sep-1992 16:48
                                        From:      LtC Lawrence A. Reed
                                        Username:  REEDL
                                        Dept:      ESC/TNU-2
                                        Tel No:    (617) 377-9514

TO:  _WINS%                               ( _DDN[ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU] )


Subject: GENESYS & LDS DATA

While it is true that GENESYS will distribute LDS Family History Library
materials, they are not yet authorized to sell to individuals.  I confirmed
this with GENESYS today via phone call.

BTW the full set of CDs for the Family History Library is 350+, which at a
cost of $50+ each is probably out of reach for most individuals anyhow.  Of
course ones and twos may be useable, but they're not available yet to us.

Larry Reed
reedL@gw1.hanscom.af.mil
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From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Subject: Clarion CO, Penn
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:46:36 GMT

I have a friend who is going to Clarion (Clarion CO Penn) in a couple of
weeks for 4 days (Thurs - Sunday).  He has no family in the area, so he
has volunteered to do some research for me (and the fees are reasonable -
I have to provided unlimited supplies of Coke Classic and feed him a meal
or two.)
 
Does anyone have any information about resources in the area?  He will be
busy most of the day Thursday and Friday, I think, so Saturday will be his
main research day.  He may have a little time during the week, but not
much.  Pittsburg is too far for him to drive, but he will have a car.
 
Thanks,
Teresa
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 19:43:13 MST
From: Dan Wilson <ATDYW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: SURNAME LEISURE

LEISURE sounds like it might be a variation of Le Seur.
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:43:00 EST
Reply-To:     JMFREED@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
From:         JMFREED@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
Subject:      Ulrich Meyer (Mayer), Virginia, 1750's

An Ulrich Meyer (Mayer, etc.) appears in records of the Northern Neck area
of Virginia in the 1750's.  Any Roots readers have any connection to him,
and if so, is it possible that he may have been the Joh. Ulrich Mayer who
arrived on the ship Priscilla, in Boston, Nov. 9, 1751, and listed as of
Budingen Germany?
--Jim Freed, Delaware, Ohio USA--
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:17:06 EST
Reply-To:     "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
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From:         "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject:      1910 New York Census request

Hello all,

Is there a very kind soul out there who has access to the Soundex for
the 1910 New York census. I am looking for ALEXANDER PAPIERNIK and would
appreciate someone finding him and telling me which series/reel he is
listed on in the census.

I very much appreciate any help I can get. I haven't been able to locate
the Soundex reels I need through the American Genealogical Lending Library
and my local library takes literally months and months to get around to
ordering microfilm such as this.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Bill Veselik    WCVESEB@VCCSCENT
From: flw@deakin.OZ.AU (Fred Walter)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: PAF V2.2 Printing Problems
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:34:40 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Science Workshop, Deakin Uni, AUSTRALIA.

I have recently installed PAF v2.2 to print data for a friend. I have 
managed to print pedigree and family group charts. My friend particularly
requires a printout of all of the notes pertaining to many individuals.

Is there a way of doing this WITHOUT printing a family group chart for
each individual?

Thank you in advance,
Fred.
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*  F.L. Walter, Senior Technician, **  Internet  flw@deakin.OZ.AU  *
*  Faculty of Science Workshop,    *********************************
*  Deakin University,              **     Voice  +61 52 271380     *
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From: alan@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Alan M Stanier)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Standard Abrreviations for geographical areas
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:16:07 GMT
Reply-To: alan@essex.ac.uk
Organization: University of Essex Computing Service, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK

In Britain there is a standard (BS 6879:1987) for the abbreviation of
County names in England Scotland and Wales. I assume that other countries
have similar standards for their geographical divisions - does anyone
have machine-readable versions of these they could e-mail me, or point me to
anonymous ftp sites from which I can obtain them?

There is also a standard (BS 5374:1981) for the abbreviation of National
names. This is not entirely suitable for genealogy, as it only covers
nations existing in 1981, whereas I want to refer to places that no longer
exist, such as the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or Wessex. Does anyone
know of a standard for abbreviating the names of such places?




--
  Alan M Stanier   | Alan Michael, son of Roger William, son of William Edwin,
 alan@essex.ac.uk  | son of William John, son of William, son of John, son of
tel +44 206 872153 | William ... (research still in progress)
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:20:13 CDT
Reply-To:     cmanis@csoftec.csf.com
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      Re: Reunion
Comments: To: Brian.Randell@NEWCASTLE.AC.UK,
              "Genealogy Information" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Brian:

Is this REUNION the same as a program "Family Reunion" by FAMware in
Salt lake City Utah ?

If not Please tell me the address, and the cost of it.

Thanks for posting all the answers, and I will probably order it when
you send the information....

Thanks..cliff

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:03:07 MDT
Reply-To:     "Sharolyn Pyeatt" <LIBSJP@VM.BYU.EDU>
From:         "Sharolyn Pyeatt" <LIBSJP@VM.BYU.EDU>
Subject: To: OTTO RICHTER
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Sorry to post this to the network--

Otto Richter, I've lost your E-mail address.  If you'll let me know
what it is, I'll give your additional information about my Richters.

Thanks for everyone's patience with my mistakes!!

Sharolynn Pyeatt
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:38:31 EDT
Reply-To:     Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Signoff

Dear folks: I have enjoyed this list immensely over the last year and
a half, but as the popularity has grown the traffic has, too. I simply
cannot keep up with it in addition to my "real" job. If things slow
down maybe I will sign back up, but for now--happy hunting.

Lucy Rowland
University of Georgia

Go Dawgs
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: Schoenling
Subject: Brother's Keeper Problem
Reply-To: dtracy@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:28:22 GMT

I just downloaded Brother's  Keeper 5.0b  from hallc1.cebaf.gov,
installed it, and loaded my GEDCOM data. Has anyone had a problem
with the Ahnentafel (L command) feature?


Every time I try it, it counts my ancestors, prompts for relationships,
(the answer given is irrelevant, the result is the same) the n bombs
out thusly:

Path/File access error in Module CUSTOM5 at address 5531:0D60

Hit any key to return to system. 

All very annoying since the Ahnentafel feature was one of the major
reasons I used BK.  Do I have a bad load, did I make an unknown error
in installation, or is this one of those insidious Shareware programs
that turns certain things off until you register?

Thanks in Advance,

Dick Schoenling
Internet: dtracy@bnr.ca

****************************************************************
Researching:
Schoenling, Tracy/Tracey, Jefferies, Dunbar, Kern, Burns, Johnson, Grover,
Frei, Kissel, Adams, McLain, McKough/McKeough, Allen, Black, Story, Steiner,
Shields, Ordione, Ryder, Fogler/Vogler, Bohlaender, Butler, Kingman, Coffin,
Hayward, White, Marchant, Brett, Howard, Huxford, Austin, Thaxter, Church,
Mitchell, Edson, Pratt, Baxter, Taylor, Stevens, Warren, Orcutt, Towne,
Thember, Copson, Williams.
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