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From: mistik@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us ("", Mustafa Soysal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: coherent list
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:22:00 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

I tried subscribing the regular way, but it didn't work.  Could you please
add me too the list?

Thanks in advance

Mustafa Soysal
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From: mistik@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Mustafa Soysal)
To: coherent-request@indycms.bitnet
Subject: please add to the coherent list


Hi,

could you please add me on the coherent mailing list.  Thanks in advance

Mustafa Soysal
From: tatsumi@elelab.nsc.co.jp (Tetsu Tatsumi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: how to enlarge tty buffer?
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:37:09 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Computer Systems Lab., Electronics Research Labs., Nippon Steel


     Hello,

     I am using Coherent 4.0 and I want to enlarge tty (or com/asy)
buffers because they miss much characters at 9600bps or 19200bps
on /dev/com1fl or /dev/asy**fl, /dev/asy**fr (I use 2 usual COM ports
and Comtrol Hostess 550 multi-port serial card).  And what is worse,
tty ports with flow control were sometimes choked up because both
CS and RS were turned off.

     I guess tty ports with large buffers have less trouble.  How
can I enlarge tty buffers?

     /*-----------------------------*------------------------------------/
    /   tatsumi@elelab.nsc.co.jp   /   Sagamihara Kanagawa 229, JAPAN   /
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MGR (was Re: Are we dead??)
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:12:11 GMT
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Grant Edwards (grante@aquarius.rosemount.com) wrote:
: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
: : H.C. Pulley (hcp@csx.cciw.ca) wrote:
[...]
: Anyway, I assume that the 3bX port (a sysV type system) would be an
: easier starting point than the SunOS/BSD port that I have played with.

You are right, the original distribution to the net is very SUN specific.
Where could I get the 3bX port without ftp access?
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From: Gianni.Marchetti%bbs@osra.sublink.org (Gianni Marchetti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent Availability
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:16:10 GMT
Organization: OSRA Sistemi Srl - Torino, Italy
X-Posting-Software: UnixBBS 1.02agcc S/N 345911

Please, could you tell me if and where Coherent is available in Italy?
Thanks,
        Gianni.Marchetti%bbs@osra.sublink.org
From: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Does the new Coherent work on a 386sx?
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:57:36 GMT
Organization: RWSYS Exporter BBS system

dfp10@thor.albany.edu (D Parsons) writes:
> Does the new 32 bit COHERENT work on the 386sx or does it need a full
> 32 bit processor like 386dx? Are there any advantages in a 486? How 
> much simms memory is needed? I want to put a new motherbaord in my
> 286.
>    Perhaps a more important question is what are the risks of 
> installation problems if I upgrade? What will i gain over the 16 bit
> COHERENT? Thanks, Don
> 
> -- 
> 
> Donald F. Parsons MD, Wadsworth Ctr. Rm C273, NY State Dept of Health, ESP,
> PO Box 509, Albany, NY 12201-0509. (518)474-7047 Fax: (518)474-7992
> dfp10@uacsc2.albany.edu dfp10@albnydh2.bitnet Cis 71777,212
> 
Coh 4.x works fine on the 386sx, but better on the 386dx and best on
the 486. I use 4 mb of simm ram. I usually have no more than three
users logged in at once, with me having 4 simultaneous logins.

I've never run out of memory. That's what the real advatange to the
32 bit system is. I can load a couple of megabytes into microemacs
without doing a split. I can run several different 'consoles'.

Even tass will allow as many articles as I have ever thrown at it
( 900 +  in my junk directory ). Believe me, with the price of ram,
I'll put another 4 mb on as soon as I ever hit the ceiling. I'm finding
the hard drive cramped with all the news and new programs etc, and the
lack of a tape drive makes much misery.

Still, I have my trusty '286 running coh 3.2. Now that I have an
arcnet link between my 3.2 box and my 4.0 box, I'm thinking of
using my '286 as an archiver for my '386. ( compression must be
done on the '386 as it is vastly faster.)

Unfortunately, you can't go down to the corner software store and
try out 4.x for yourself. If you could, you'd very likely carry home
a 4.0 to run on your 386sx. 

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                or                          | (604) 581-0518     8N1
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From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Anyone using Scheme on Coherent ???????
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:20:58 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Trent D'Arby (k3eq@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca) wrote:
: Is the language Scheme or any other LISP (or LISP dialect)
: available for Coherent??

If you're into being abused by parentheses, XLISP is available
on mwcbbs, and I would guess raven.alaska.edu (I think this is
the right FTP address).

It's OK for puttering around, and C source is available in alot
of places (like maybe ftp.uu.net).

-Louis
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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: ansipc terminfo problems
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 15:35:42 PST
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:

> eddy keller (ekeller@aerie.CalStateLA.EDU) wrote:
> : ansipc) the settings are completely off.  The reverse
> : video does not reset when a non highlighted selection is
> : selected.  Has anyone out there run into similar problems
> : with ansipc?  Is there an upgraded terminfo entry?
> 
> We've all got this problem.  There is no fix I know of as yet.
> If it's just terminfo, I'm pretty handy with vt100/ansi emulation,
> so I'll take a look and see what's wrong.

I just set mine to vt100 and all the problems went away.

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From: jdhuse@sedona.intel.com (Jon Dhuse~)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: ulimit system call
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:38:27 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: jdhuse@sedona


Hello!

Can anyone help me with the specifics of the system call "ulimit()".  It seems
to be for getting and setting process characteristics, but I can't find any
mention of it in the Coherent Lexicon, or in the on line manual.  Thanks in
advance...

Jon.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Lou Glassy)
Subject: Re: Pascal and Coherent
Keywords: n
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:30:31 GMT

alternately, a brave soul could rewrite the ETH pascal P-4
compiler & interpreter pair in k&r C.  it's about 5KSLOC - 4 for the
compiler, 1 for the interpreter.  the P-4 compiler is the one from
which many, many other pascal compilers descended; plus it's free.

-- 
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Earth Sciences Department                    Turn to straight, dark rows
Montana State University                     Put another season's promise
Bozeman, Montana 59715 USA                   In the ground...  --Stan Rogers
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Tin 1.1 PL7
Keywords: tin 1.1 PL7, coherent
Summary: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:56:42 GMT


A few days ago Iain Lea distributes tin 1.1 PL7, which I'm now running
here under COHERENT 4.0. The file CHANGES from PL6 to PL7 has a size
of ~13KB, so don't please ask me what is new/better, get it :-)
As with PL6 before bison 118 is needed to compile it, COHERENT's
yacc doesn't have the YYABORT feature. Bison 118 is available from
MWCBBS, raven and my system.
Iain distributed a diff this time, to bring up PL6 to PL7, but I'll
make a ready to make version of PL7 available. First because the
diff has a size near of the PL6 distribution, and secound after
installing the diffs some changes are needed for COHERENT.
Also again I'll try to contact Iain (which failes in the past)
and ask him if he is willing to add my changes for COHERENT 4.0,
so that future versions will have support for COHERENT builtin.
For users in Europe PL7 is available from my system now and I'll
send a copy to MWC and raven this week.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: d10590@tanus.oz.au (Robert Chalmers)
Subject: elm wnews tin
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:40:10 GMT

Here it is folks. Ready to install from floppy disk. wnews, tin and elm.
binaries only, set up, modified, ported to Coherent V4.x, each with it's own
Install.sh script, each in it's own directory on the floppy.(3 1/2" 1.44Mb)
There is a BARE MINIMUM of changes to make, and indeed, if you have a /u
directory on you root partition, you dont need ANY changes. Isn't taht nice.{!
All the binaries run, all the manual oa\ pages work under Coherent, and the
manual pages are automatically placed into the right directories in your
/usr/man directory, and the man.index is updataed. All the formatted guides
for elm work under Coherent, and can be printed out to a laser printer, or
dotmatrix if you wan to fiddle a bit with page sizes.
No compiling necessary, and all install scripts, ( 3 of them) are clearly
marked as to where the changes need to be made. In all cases, thios is only
changing the /u.... to /usr......
You can get it from my mirror site in a ustar file, then put it onto a floppy
or send me a disk and return postage, and I will send you a copy. It costs A$3
to send an air mail disk package to the USA, so that will give you some it
idea. My snail mail address is 22 Minster Street, Mackay. 4740 Australia.
enjoy,
Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: GCC
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:13:13 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <9211153510@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>Linus Torvalds (torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
>[...]
>: I have to agree with Rick that MWC would probably want to wait for
>: coherent 4.1 before releasing gcc - that should fix the two first
>: problems.  I don't know about the coherent cache: is it hardcoded,
>: dynamic, memory size dependent, or what?
>
>The cache is dynamic. I first run 4.0 with 2MB, then 5MB and now with 8MB.
>On every memory upgrade I noticed, that the number of buffers for the
>disk cache increased. Also performance of disk I/O is better now, because
>of the large cache.

That's correct.  But I believe that it also can be patched in the kernel.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Xref: sparky comp.os.coherent:5702 comp.unix.questions:13567
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: rz problems at 9600 baud
Summary: Handshaking problem
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:14:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.


 In article <Bx9EKy.2Jx@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil>, hanrahan@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil (Kevin Hanrahan) writes:
 > jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes:
 > 
 > >Has anyone experienced problems using rz/sz at 9600 baud?  I just
 > >bought a 9600 baud modem and am experiencing problems I've never had
 > >before (at 2400).  I give my remote host the sz command, then call rz
 > >using minicom's receive feature, and the computer proceeds to give me
 > >all sorts of error messages one after the other (sometimes getting some
 > 
 > The error messages sound like the same problem we have here, but
 > our setup is somewhat different.  We have PC's connected to our
 > network through serial connections to TRW ACU's.  These run
 > at 9600 bps, but there is no modem involved.  I have also been
 > unable to use sz/rz to my PC at home thru a dialup which also
 > uses a TRW ACU.  A friend of mine has successfully used sz/rz
 > over a 9600 bps modem that does not go thru one of these TRW boxes.
 
The symptoms described by John sounds suspiciously like problems I had
here for quite some time also using sz/rz. Here's what I eventually
found:

There was a simple handshaking problem.  I'm using a Trailblazer+ locked
at 19200 to the cpu but had callers at 2400 having blown transfers and
transfer rates (with all the errors counted in) of less than 300 bps.  A
temporary fix was to use the sz -w1024 [filename] command to send files
with a window of 1024 bytes.  This forced the speed a bit slower than a
normallly operating 2400 connection but it at least worked temporarily
by forcing a break every 1024 bytes of transfer to allow an ACK/NAK to
come down.  This blows the streaming capability of Zmodem but DOES work. 
Note that this is with sz on a Unix machine sending to a DOS machine
with a 2400 baud connection.  The same problem is likely if you are
connecting at 9600 to a system with a modem locked to it's host at
19200.  UPLOADING to such a system (using rz) probably won't cause
problems. 

I cured this royal pain by installing FAS drivers and 16550AFN Uarts.
The previously non-existant handshaking now deals with it all and I no
longer need the sz -w1024 command. A simple fix in the end. BTW, I'm
using a Digiboard DigiCHANNEL PC/8 under Microport SYSV/386 here. 

As usual, your mileage may vary and this might not even be the problem
you two are having but it's a place to look. 

Good luck. 

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From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU ("", Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: MGR (was Re: Are we dead??)
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:09:42 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


	Some of the best books on EGA/VGA graphics that would be great for
getting info on device driver programming are...

Programmer's Guide to the EGA/VGA Cards by Richard F. Ferraro (Addison-Westly)
PC & PS/2 Video Systems by Richard Wilton (Microsoft Press)

Both of those are great and may be the best available.  Both have very
clear writing and don't skimp on details.  Examples are in C and assembler
for the Ferraro book and mostly assembler in Wilton's book.  I have both
and was able to go from nothing to good working knowledge of the graphics
systems.  Both will help you learn more about assembly and C.

Anyway, for anyone writing the device drivers, these two books would
be a big help.  I recommend getting both because they kind of compliment
each other, covering things better than each other from time to time.



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Christopher Newport University |---------------------
Newport News, VA               |** space for rent **
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mwprange@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Manfred W. Prange)
Subject: Re: ansipc terminfo problems
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:50:43 GMT

buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E) writes:

>In article <9211176157@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>>Duane Davis (system@micromed.com) wrote:
>>: I just set mine to vt100 and all the problems went away.
>>
>>I think this might be a problem with minicom rather than Coh.
>>
>>The problem was reverse video screwing up.  Before I go digging
>>into the unknown, has anyone had the screen screw up outside of

>I've had a similar problem logging onto this host using ckermit
(cku185).

I've been involved with C-Kermit support for Coherent since 3.0.0
I've had this exact problem since the initial release of Coherent 4.0.
Also I have noticed that C-Kermit 185 appears to behave very jumpily
and drops characters at 2400 baud. Have you mad any changes? If so
would you share them with me?

Manfred
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: mail .forward (ver 3.2.1)
Date: 22 Nov 92 09:52:51 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

BLACK  PAUL (pblack@cory.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
: Can I use .forward to send to files or pipes?  Have other people got
: auto-responders working on Coherent?  If so, how?

You could use cron to grab the /usr/spool/mail/<username> file and have a script
that cuts it apart at the (^A)'s and then pipes each letter to your program.

It's not instantaneous, but I would think for autoresponders, a batch
response would be alright.

-Louis
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From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU ("", Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: lint (was Re: various questions)
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:23:18 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> I've seen shrouded sources, that's nothing what I'll try to port ;-)
> What I could do is ask them about not shrouded sources to port it
> to COHERENT, after that they could shroud the source again.
> Also I don't think that COHERENT users wants to spend $700 or more
> for an lint, or am I wrong?
> Does anyone else know about an cheaper lint, where I could get the
> sources for an COHERENT port?
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	Some people here were asking for ideas about a programming
project.  Well, a lint-clone would be a good one.  The whole UNIX
community might like that.  You could call it fuzz or dust or
something...



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