From: jfed@athena.mit.edu (Jude G Federspiel)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Responsibility: The Dirty Word (was Re: Insulted by...
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:28:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Project Athena


My post has been too often misinterpreted as a vicious attack on homosexuals,
so I will clear the fog here a little bit.  The topic of my post, as shown 
below in the introductory paragraph, and the paragraph in this thread which
prompted my post, was what family values really means, and why it might be
something that homosexuals constitute a threat against.  I opened talking about
marriage, because in my opinion, marriage _is_ what the boolah seems to be
saying, just not in so many words.   




|> >In article <1992Aug24.000949.27208@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> No problem there.
|> >|> 
|> >|> However if this is family values I don't see how gay's or feminists
                  ^^^^
|> >|> are anti family. A gay friend of mine took time off from college to
|> >|> care for his dying grandfather, rather than have him committed to a
|> >|> nursing home. 


I took issue with the previous definition of family values and sought to 
show just how gays might be construed as antifamily.
And here was the beginning of my very first post, in which I tried to show 
how homosexuals may be antifamily only in the sense that "family values" are 
something which must be taught within the family, and a family with
a stably married mother and father is best able to accomplich this task.


|> >
|> >I think what they failed to express clearly at Houston but what is
|> >a BIG part of the family values hubbub (at least it is the only thing
|> >I can think of which relates morality, success of family, education,
|> >child care, reduction of crime, and everything else people are saying
|> >these "values" will improve) is about marriage.  This is how gays and 
|> >lesbians present a threat.  How can a gay/lesbian couple raise a child of
|> >the opposite sex when statistics have shown time and time again that children
|> >need strong family role models of the same sex to teach them how to be an
|> >adult; how to respect authority; how to handle their sexuality.
|> 

The only connection I offered to homosexuality was about raising children;
I added this because of recent debates on allowing gay couples to marry,
adopt children, etc.  Again, my post focused on putting the word "marriage"
into the family values magilla, because everyone seemed to have left that
out. 

Now, first of all these are my own opinions.  Second of all this has little to
do with Bush or Clinton.  I'm just saying what they didn't say in Houston but
which I believe they meant.


|> 
|> Maybe I missed something someplace but I thought you where trying to
|> explain what homosexuality has to do with family values, if thats what
|> you where trying to do I just don't see how you are connecting the two.
|> 
|> I atleast partially agree with most of what you say, but you cannot
|> place the blame for broken heterosexual familys on us.

I apologize for all the confusion.

|> 
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Jude Federspiel