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From: weissman@netcom.com (Bob Weissman)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: The Ranks of the Unemployed
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:37:31 GMT

In <1992Dec30.210516.27444@smsc.sony.com> markc@smsc.sony.com (Mark Corscadden) writes:

- South Bay's latest cute trick was to send out notices to *every* customer
- in Mountain View that their service was about to be cut off for failure
- to pay.  The notices were nicely timed to be received just before the
- Christmas weekend, with a promise to disconnect Monday if payment had
- not already been made by Friday.  "We just wanted you to have a *merry*
- Christmas!"  The South Bay employee who talked to me assured me that
- *everyone* got them, including a man who pays a year's worth of fees in
- advance.  He was sent a notice threating to cut his service if he didn't
- take care of a bill which showed a $100+ credit!

Eh?  I'm a South Bay customer in Mountain View, and I did not get one of these.

-- 
-- Bob Weissman
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From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:36:00 GMT
Followup-To: ba.general
Distribution: ba
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"markc" == Mark Corscadden <markc@smsc.sony.com> writes:

markc> The South Bay employee who talked to me assured me
markc> that *everyone* got them, including a man who pays a year's

I didn't get one...

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              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Can I eat the olives from our tree?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:16:30 GMT


I recently moved here and don't know much about
olive trees.  However, I noticed that a tree in
our yard is covered with black olives that look
perfectly ripe.  Can I just eat them?  I've
never seen fresh olives for sale, so I assume
so kind of processing is needed...
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: rog@Ingres.COM (Roger Taranto)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: Ingres Corporation, a subsidiary of The ASK Group, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:13:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.235207.28223@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>   Me neither...and, for the record, I HATE South Bay Cablevision...

What did they do -- send you flowers on your birthday?
From: debra@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Debra Stevens)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:42:08 GMT
Subject: "Craft Faire" activities list?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: ba.general

   I heard that there were some people reading this note that could assist me
   in getting a list of "Craft Faire" activities in California or the Bay Area.
   I'm interested in becoming a rambling peddler when I grow up!

   Thanks,
   Debra "Please respond befor January 15th" Stevens
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 11:31:41 GMT

In article <1371@taniwha.UUCP> paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell) writes:
>I've fantasized about setting up my own cable company - probably non-profit
>along the lines of the old Berkeley CO-OP. You could start with just a
>dish and lay cable out from wherever you start from as you get subscribers,
>maybe even say to-hell-with-the-regulators and do a guerilla cable company.

Well, in Berkeley, just maybe guerilla cable might work ;)... but if you 
run wire down a public easment, you will be faced with a) leasing the space
from either telco, the power company, or whoever installed the conduit/poles,
and b) by using a public easment, you are opening yourself to franchise 
regulations from the city.

If you were to go with `Wireless Cable' (an oxymoron if I ever heard one)
then you are free of both of the above problems... but then you have to 
do a bit more legal/technical work to get a microwave frequency site and
licenses from the FCC.  Oh, and don't forget about an EIR (Enviromental
Impact Report) and ohhh, the health risks that microwave energy cause...
(It is Berkeley you are talking about)... of course,  a Wireless Cable
facility would probably put out 1/100 or less of the total radiation
coming off those hills above Berkeley.... I'd bet with the lab up there,
you would blend right into the background noise (NOTE:  This is more
sarcasm than fact which I am posting).

There is a FAQ on wireless cable that is sent out about once a month on
one of the tv newsgroups.  It does go into some detail about what is
required to start up a wireless cable system.  Unfortunatly, most of the 
populated areas are already closed out as far as applications are concerned
for wireless cable licenses. 

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.


Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:51:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.020807.5763@Arco.COM>, James Edward Burns <ddujeb@arco.com> writes:
|> Two months ago our secretary got her car stolen while she had the club
|> on it.  It was recovered by the CHP a couple of days later.  The officer
|> said that the club was destroyed by using freon, then cracking it w/ a
|> hammer.  Supposedly there were still pieces of the device on the
|> floorboard from where it had been shattered.

Freon?  I don't believe it.  That's even more implausible than using
liquid nitrogen.  You could spray cans and cans of freon onto a "Club"
w/o getting it terribly cold.  Imagine a thief armed with cans of freon
doing this whilst sitting in the car.  Right.  Now imagine a thief
running around with a liquid nitrogen dewar.  Right.  Pouring it all
over the place (remember, the club is inside of a car affixed to the
steering wheel) would be pretty stupid looking.  Gimme a break folks!
Why not hacking the steering wheel or just steal another car.  It's
not like everyone uses a "Club" or something.

I'll bet most CHP officers are just as good at trading and passing on
urban legends as the next guy...

-- 

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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: What does [sic] mean?
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:34:04 GMT

In article <tecot.722986361@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> tecot@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Edward M. Tecot) writes:
>cristina@well.sf.ca.us (Christina Paddock) writes:
>>I see [sic] in a lot of posts here.  What is it?
>It stands for "spelling is correct" and is borrowed from newspapers and other
>periodicals.  It's used in a quote or attribution where the original author
>used a spelling other than what is generally accepted.  The [sic] tells the
>reader that this is not a typographical error.

Well, almost.

"Sic" is a legitimate Latin word meaning "so" or "thus" and is inserted
when quoting text following a questionable spelling, usage, or punctuation
to indicate that what you are seeing is not a typo, but an accurate quote.

And it isn't "borrowed from newpapers and other periodicals".  If you weren't
taught how and when to use "[sic]" in high school, then your schooling was
either insufficient, or you weren't taking college prep courses, or you went
to high school somewhere outside the US and UK.

Although "spelling is correct" may be a good mnemonic method to remember when
to use it, sic is NOT an acronym.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

"Baldric, go forth into the streets and announce that Lord Blackadder wishes
 to sell his house.  Percy, just go forth into the streets."
Newsgroups: ba.general,misc.headlines,rec.misc
From: muhamk@microsoft.com (Muhammad Karim)
Subject: TV shows Exporting
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:36:47 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Shows

I am interested in starting an exporting business of TV or
Video Production (TV & Comedy Shows, Movies & Mini TV series
or any other shows which can be televised in TV, half an hour
or longer).

If you are interested in exporting your video or TV production
or know someone who can help me out in this matter please forward
me his/her name.

Thanks for all the help and you can email me
at muhamk@microsoft.com

~
From: debra@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Debra Stevens)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:47:28 GMT
Subject: Re: "Craft Faire" activities list?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: ba.general

   I am also interested in getting information starting a barter/service
   network together in my mobilehome park.  If it goes well, I may expand to
   other Parks in the area.  Any leads/experiences, would be appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Debra "Joining the VSI Hall-of-Fame" Stevens
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: fred_s@netcom.com (Frederick Scott)
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Organization: Nerds On Parade
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:10:27 GMT

falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes: 

>[story about lousy service from cable company deleted]
>
>Ya know, you can buy a device at any electronics store that allows
>you to receive TV channels right out of thin air.  It costs less
>than a cable box and the service is reliable and *free*.
>
>Better yet, throw your $#!@ tv in the trash.

Get lost, buddy.  If you don't think his complaints about the cable company
hold water, you're certainly invited to post a flame and tell us exactly why
you feel that way.  Otherwise stuff it.  I don't like doctors who ask you why
you needed that limb in the first place.

Fred
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: salsbury@netcom.com (The Butterfly)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Wild Ear Ring Store
Where: San Francisco, CA
Organization: Evolutionary Acceleration, Inc.
Project: Ushering in the next stage of human evolution, and fixing the world.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:00:06 GMT

Just went to a T-shirt shop on the corner of Haight-Ashbury (Can't miss
it.) and they have some great earrings. Diffraction grating, rainbows,
sparklies. You name it. $3.50 each. (Single price, pairs for $7) They have
others, too, but I liked those.

Pat
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		1800 Market Street #23, San Francisco, CA 94102
			      Voice: 415/703-7177
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: Where to Find Dubbed Movies?
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:06:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <KWOOLNER.92Dec23114654@edsun1.oracle.com>, kwoolner@oracle.com (Keith Woolner) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know where I can purchase popular, English-language films
> dubbed into another language?  I'm trying to find something like "The
> Terminator" dubbed into Spanish or Japanese.  I do want dubbed, and
> not subtitled.  Perhaps there is a mail-order place that deals in such
> movies?  I'm located in San Mateo, and would prefer to find a source
> close to me, but I'd be happy for any suggestions anyone has.
> 
> Post responses, or email to "kwoolner@oracle.com"  Thanks.

Find the yourself a neighborhood of the desired ethnicity and check out the
video stores.  

feliz navidad.maximo
mmonningh@igc.org
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kwoolner@oracle.com (Keith Woolner)
Subject: Where to Find Dubbed Movies?
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:46:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


Does anyone know where I can purchase popular, English-language films
dubbed into another language?  I'm trying to find something like "The
Terminator" dubbed into Spanish or Japanese.  I do want dubbed, and
not subtitled.  Perhaps there is a mail-order place that deals in such
movies?  I'm located in San Mateo, and would prefer to find a source
close to me, but I'd be happy for any suggestions anyone has.

Post responses, or email to "kwoolner@oracle.com"  Thanks.

Keith Woolner
kwoolner@oracle.com

Xref: sparky ba.general:5349 alt.folklore.urban:31806
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:25:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

ddujeb@arco.com (James Edward Burns) writes:
: In article <93Ch020z2f.E01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> Terry Carroll,
: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
: >alt.folklore.urban; any comments?   Two months ago our secretary got her
: car stolen while she had the club on it.  It was recovered by the CHP a
: couple of days later.  The officer said that the club was destroyed by
: using freon, then cracking it w/ a hammer.  Supposedly there were still
: pieces of the device on the floorboard from where it had been shattered.

I suppose the thief left a few freon cans lying around in the car also.

Bill
From: romain@salt.eng.pyramid.com (Romain Kang)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: romain@pyramid.com
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp, San Jose, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: salt.eng.pyramid.com

It is an interesting exercise to examine where you spend your money
and ask yourself whether the money expended in different areas has
proportional benefits.  For me, basic cable would cost more than my
electricity and would be far less useful.  (Admittedly, the
determination of cost vs. benefit is mostly non-mathematical --
for instance, what price do you place on health?)

The Nasty Bay Area Cable Companies bank on the assumption that most
people hold values different from mine.  This assumption seems to work
well for the NBACCs; more power to them.  If, on the other hand, the
consumers truly felt costs vs. services were inordinate, they would
all boycott the NBACCs and have them by their gizzards.  Would this
ever happen?  I'd say the chances of it are about the same as
eliminating the national debt...

Romain
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Can I eat the olives from our tree?
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:35:36 GMT

In article 3869@netcom.com, ds@netcom.com (David Schachter) writes:
>Good thing you waited until 1993-- the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of
>last year greatly simplified the procedure.  Here 'tis:

[ Lots of mumbo-jumbo delete.  (Did you know that Jumbo is the smallest
  size of olive you can buy?) ]

I can't believe that you wrote all that.  I'm astonished.  Perhaps amazed, too.


---
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Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: rodo@acdelco.auspex.com (Rod Livingood)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: South Lake Tahoe lodging 2/5-2/7
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:06:11 GMT
Reply-To: rodo@auspex.com
Followup-To: /dev/null
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems


Posted for a friend.  All replies to /dev/null...


A weekend escape to South Lake Tahoe

February 5-7, 1993 (3 Days/2 Nights)

Only $346.50

Stay @ Lakeland Village, Luxury Townhomes

(1 Mile from Heavenly Ski area @ the excitement of Statline Casinos)

2bd, 1 1/2 bath with loft (Sleeps 6)

Local Skiing: Heavenly Valley, Kirkwood Ski Resor, Sierra Ski Ranch

For Reservations, or more info contact:

	Tami Tillger @ (415) 961-3764

PS.  tell her Rod sent ya

-- 
Rod Livingood
Auspex Systems Inc.
Newsgroups: ba.general,alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:16:27 GMT

billh@ent-img.com (Bill Heiden) writes:
: 
:  It works, I actually saw a demonstration on television.  The whole point
: of the demonstration was that the "Club" is not the perfect theft
: prevention device, but rather a deterrent.  If a thief wants to steal
: your car, the "Club" will add a couple of minutes to the time it takes
: to rip it off.  

More like about 15 or 20 seconds. They are good for stopping "joy-riders".
Expecting them to help against other classes of thieves is futile.

Bill
Newsgroups: ba.general,ba.politics
From: rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!! and Hear
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:45:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: RGB Spectrum

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

(in regards Hear)
>In case anyone is wondering, this in over near Spengers, on 4th or whatever
>street runs in front of Spengers. I drove by there twice trying to find 
>this place but couldn't spot it. Someone told me it's in the shops about
>a block from Spengers, so hopefully I'll find it next time. Sounds like the
>content won't impress me much. I wish more stores would let you listen 
>before you buy, but imagining the lines for a player at Amoeba doesn't
>make me think it's likely. 

I've been in Hear twice now, and their prices are higher than Rasputins.
They haven't had lines for the headphones though, and their staff are 
interesting and helpful - a real change from Rasputins.  Besides, given
the choice between fourth street and Tele, I'm afraid I'd choose 4th
unless I was looking for a nickel bag..

-- 
                   R  G  B  Spectrum
              950 Marina Village Parkway  / "You can't fight in here - this
                  Alameda, California     / is the war room!" - Dr. Stragelove
                     rick@rgb.com
From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Michael Krasny has left KGO
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:21:23 GMT
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA


I was shocked to learn that last Friday was Michael Krasny's last show
on KGO. Apparently he has known this for a long time, but did not
announce it until his last show. He didn't seem to want to discuss
the circumstances of his leaving, but when pressed, he admitted that
he was at odds with the creative direction of the new management
at KGO.

I believe that many will agree that Michael Kransy is one of the most
intelligent, well-educated, well-balanced talk-show hosts that has been
on commercial radio in a long time.  Although I don't know all the
facts, it seems to me that this is another case of management
interfering with the works of its most gifted and productive workers.
One cannot help to suspect that they are trying to make themselves look
productive in order to justify their own salaries.  Or perhaps the
breadth and depth of Michaels guests was simply over their heads.

Michael hinted that he would turn up on another station some day.
If anyone hears more on this, please post.

Tom
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: pressure those nasty Bay Area cable companies!
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:24:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lk4al1INN2im@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
|[story about lousy service from cable company deleted]
|
|Ya know, you can buy a device at any electronics store that allows
|you to receive TV channels right out of thin air.  It costs less
|than a cable box and the service is reliable and *free*.

Would that be better known as an antenna?

|Better yet, throw your $#!@ tv in the trash.

Unnecessarily self-righteous, wouldn't you say?

-- 
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jeffj@ultra.com (Jeff Johnson)
Subject: Re: Looking for Sears Catalogs
Reply-To: jeffj@ultra.com
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:37:13 GMT

In article 1324000004@igc.apc.org, Brett Dellinger <bdellinger@igc.apc.org> () writes:
=>
=>I'm still looking for old Sears and JC Penny catalogs from the '60s,
=>'70s and '80s.
=>
=>So far, I haven't found any.  Anybody have any ideas?  Libraries?
=>Used book stores?  Any tips would be most appreciated.
=>
=>Brett
=>
=>bdellinger@igc.org
=>


I thought all those old catalogs had been burned because they violated
child pornography laws by showing children in various stages of undress.

( :-) for the humor-impaired)
/jeff
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From: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Ignatius Ding)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:46:11 GMT
Subject: Happy New Year
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:41:09 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Dec17.214240.20418@ntmtv> adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.200733.28306@pony.Ingres.COM>, kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:
>|> Another good way to clobber the Club, apparently used by some pros, is
>|> to pour liquid nitrogen on the lock area; once cold-soaked, a smart
>|> rap with a hammer shatters the sob.
>
>Bullshit.  Prove it.  Do *you* *personally* know of any such case?

Could damn well be a UL; however, dig that wild hair out of your ass and
calm down.


kbq
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Subject: Re: flourescent light bulbs, same size and shape as regular bulbs
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:28:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: QueerNet

In article <15977@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <wallich.724621323@pepper> wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich) writes:
>>
>>Well, they're not in the East Bay, but they are a big mail-order
>>place.  Real Goods, headquartered in Ukia (there must be a letter
>
>Ukiah.

Real Goods is great.

Home Club has a bunch on sale.  So do most Hardware stores.  PG&E is even
subsidising the price on some of these.

NOTE:  Get an Electronic Ballast type bulb.  Magnetic ballast bulbs tend to
flicker IMHO.

...Max
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