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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace

*** Resending note of 01/05/93 00:29

>Yes, well, that's us Southerners all over...lackadaisical and inefficient.
>However, we do manage to survive somehow...particularly on harsh winter
>days like yesterday when the temperature hovered around 70 here.

And it gets worse ....we don't even have a furnace, nor a fireplace, but
the AC does run backwards.

Don, almost freezing ...temperature dropped below 80 yesterday, but should
be back to normal soon.
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English peas
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> > When I read Natalie's account of June days in the 50s in Jackson, I thought
> > of air-conditioning.  Children somehow seem immune from the worst effects
> > of that brutal Mississippi heat; I mean, the heat and humidity of those
> > largely un-air-conditioned times is screened out of the nostalgic memories.
>
Thinking about Texas summertime heat, I wonder sometimes how we used to
manage in the summers before air conditioning.  Of course, then we didn't
know it was possible to be cool...maybe that was the difference.  When I
was a teenager the only air-conditioned places in town were two drugstores
and the two movie theaters.  Everywhere else there were ceiling fans or
window fans or the evaporative coolers somebody mentioned.  I remember the
first time my family had an air conditioner in the house, in the summer of
1962...my mother wouldn't allow us to leave it on at night because she
thought it was unnatural to have it "cold" at night and figured we'd all
get pneumonia.
ndh
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cleaning up the environment....
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              in the rain" at Jan 6, 93 9:17 am

>       Is Saturday Night Live live this week?  If so, I wonder if they'll have

Yup, with Danny Devito as host, according to Al Franken, who was plugging
his Stuart Smalley book on Letterman last night.

>       a Bill Swerski skit -- I can see those platters of kielbasa draped in
>       black...

-rashmi
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: More abh Files
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: it out, this is a hint to anybody who has the complete collection of abh in
: England that I would be very much appreciative of your sending it to me...

Don't look at me - I delete all abh's travelogues unread...

G
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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> >Publ. Co.) at $29.95.  The disk with it has Graphic Workshop, Desktop
> >Paint, Desktop Paint256, and GrafCat.  The Desktop Paint programs are
> >like Windows Paint program, I think.  The GrafCat is a program to
> >print out all your .wpg graphics in little boxes twelve to a page,
> >to "catalog" them.  The Graphic Workshop is the one that transforms
> >he different types of graphics from one form to the other, and
> >ou can doctor them as you do it.
> > don't have uudecode, or if I do I don't know it and havent used it.
>
> OK, I wasn't paying attention, or maybe missed original posts, but are the
> programs described above available via FTP?  If so, would someone be kind
> enought to (re)post the details?  Thanks.

We don't think so, or we don't know.  But it is shareware, so I can
send you a disk if you want it.
--ggs
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Date: 7 Jan 93 08:37:48
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In-reply-to: droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:50:42 -0500


	   I had salmoncakes and spaghetti, and both were wonderful.  So
   was the company.  I've missed y'all.

I echo Robymeister...it was great to see everyone.  Best way I can think of
to start off a new year.

	//anne//
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thanks, Tony, for the clear information.  You do this much better
than *somebody* whose name I do not care to recall.
--ggs
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dual Croning on 19 March
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> >--ggs (not with my *seester* you don't..... right, JMW?????)
>
>         Damn straight, uncle, and I don't even HAVE a sister!  8-)
> (Uh, does the tc/ know about you and Brad's seester?  If so, are you
> sleeping in the Miata?)
>
> JMW, who is apparently off-line yet again...
>
She doesn't *have* to know about that luscious lady to respectfully
request that I sleep in the Miata (You bought it, you sleep in it!)
--ggs
From: amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik)
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Well, I'll say Geneva...

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Geography Question
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              4 Jan 1993 11:26:07 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:26:07 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>Kali Gandaki River Gorge is 18k feet deep two sources claim.
>
  BFD!  WHAT two sources???

you expect an A for that kind of citation on your papers?

cyclops
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Year's Good Luck Foods
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:
> >Have you heard the one about its being bad luck, on a first visit to a
> >home, to leave by a different door from the one by which you entered?
>
> Biggest piece of nonsense I ever heard. The luckiest thing to do is to
> leave by the same door, preferably backwards. The more accurate your
> time-reversal of the entering process is the luckier you are. I mean,
> do you want your essence to remain forever locked in the house, just
> because you were too lazy to conserve symmetry?

Then there's the consideration that it's better for some people just to
leave, and it doesn't matter by what door...

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:04:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      farther east, not farther west
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I just looked at what I wrote while ago about the relative distances of
Houston > Memphis and Houston > Starkville and realized that I had written
that Starkville is farther WEST.  I meant east.  We USers aren't known for
having a very good grasp of geography...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Blinded by Geography
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O.K...... Where were all you people that did Geography at high school when
I needed you? I got had by Mka on "What is the deepest land gorge in the
world?" The answer to that question is 'The Grand Canyon' as was stated on
the card according to my youngest son who has just completed 3 Unit Geography
in his HSC. All the others that Mka cited were in fact 'mountain gorges' and
therefore not proper answers to the question. A 'land gorge' is a gorge
surrounded by plateaux.

I've learnt my lesson now, so watch out anyone who wants to argue about
their answer in the future.

Carolyn
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:39:26 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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> Only where people are into heating their attics!  Heat *rises*, Natalie -

I know that heat rises.  That's why people often close off upstairs rooms
in the summer and move everything downstairs.  (I've known of people who
have never succeeded in getting an upstairs bedroom cool enough for sleeping
comfortably, no matter how much they spent on a/c.)  I wasn't suggesting
that ceiling vents for heat made sense.  I was simply saying that that's
where they always seem to be.
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 10:35:49 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dual Croning on 19 March
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>   The croning will help her see what <availability> means for her, I
>   guess.  She is married, the mother of two (the elder almost or at 30),
>   about to celebrate a milestone birth anniversary.
>
>   Natalie has suggested that all sexes will be able to participate in
>   the ceremony, but this probably has yet to be worked out.
>   brad

Although I know relatively little about it, I had visualized the actual
croning as a women's event, with, as I think Natalie mentioned, men
involved in the peripheral (sp?) events.
ndh
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:24:42 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cronings: (was: News from a newly non-computer...)
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> >Is it polite to invite people to your own croning?
>    you invited them to your wedding, didn't you???

No.  We got married in a bar.  The bartender was a preacher, and the cooks
came out of the kitchen to be witnesses.  Nobody else was there.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>Weird.:-)  Why couldn't they just call it base 12 and be done with it?:-)
>That's the name they taught us on this side of the Pond....
>
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

Evidently they are now! However, these words are much older than the systems
they now describe and were probably used in Ancient Roman days to describe
other things having X number of parts and were adopted for use in mathematics
(I guess) sometime last century or earlier when Latin was all the rage.

Carolyn
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First major problem in London
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The only reson Edinburg, Tx is not spelled "Edinburgh" is that some
postal clerk about 75 years ago left of the 'h' on some official form,
and we got registered with some governmental agency that way, and nobody
ever bothered to fix it. There are old maps of the city which show the
Scottish spelling as well.

-abh
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First major problem in London
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>The only reson Edinburg, Tx is not spelled "Edinburgh" is that some
>postal clerk about 75 years ago left of the 'h' on some official form,
>and we got registered with some governmental agency that way, and nobody
>ever bothered to fix it. There are old maps of the city which show the
>Scottish spelling as well.

        Story around here, where we *do* have an 'h' at the end, is that there
        was a movement in the US at some time (turn of the century?  WWI?) to
        standardize such place names without the silent 'h'.  Thus, Pittsburg
        KS and Pittsburg CA (and Edinburg TX?).  But this fair city refused to
        go along with those spelling prescriptivists, and we were big enough
        and strong enough to make it stick.

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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: reviews of Krol's book
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:50:59 GMT

In article <Pine.3.03.9301031811.A22162-9100000@abernathy.tenet.edu> harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
>On Sun, 3 Jan 1993, Dan Lester wrote:
>
>> I wrote this review when the book first came out, as the text indicates.
>> It was published in several sources, including CuD, and on NETTRAIN.
>> a second review from NETTRAIN follows mine.
>
>Ahem, Dan, you, Jim T. and I all reviewed this in CuD not long ago...issue
>4.45(?) or around thereabouts.


The reviews were in CuD #4.62. Another good resource is Brendan Kehoe's
Zen and Art of the Internet (reviewed in CuD #4.38). The first edition
is readily ftp-able.
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 7 Jan 1993 05:47:40 GMT
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In a previous article, LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay) says:

>Okay, y'all can start posting again...I know you've been holding back
>till I got caught up...
>
>And a big 22 minutes before I have to give custody of the netcom account
>back to my doctor... ;)
>
Don't complain - at least you got time in.  The machine I telnet off of
was down all afternoon, as in crashed.  I couldn't get in until Midnight
or thereabouts!  It's enough to make a grown woman tear hair, or tape drives,
whichever come handiest.....

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> > Don't let him see May.
>
> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKK.  I told Natalie to get that thing *OFF*
> of our computer.  She keeps telling me that it's a beautiful gif -- clearly
> a contender for "best list gif."  I keep telling her that I DON'T LIKE MAY.
> If she doesn't get that thing off of this computer pretty soon, she can
> forget the paw suppressor.  My paws are moving on.
>                         o/.\____/
>          -- Bernard      \______|
>                          / \  / \
For those (few, probably) of us who are gif-deprived, would you satisfy
our curiosity about May?  Who/what is MAY?
doris
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:37:06 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: London Bridge
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> Really? I never get embarrassed about that. I still do it all the time.... the
> last movie I cried in was "My Girl" which I watched two days ago.

I still do also -- but no longer in public, thanks to the advent of VCRs.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: uh-huh
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> >Tate Gallery. GT remains behind to do <taxes>. I stay 4 hours. Can't
> >believe these Brits own all these really important works.
>
> Harder to believe some wacko place in Malibu, Calif. owns a bunch of
> them too.

That "wacko place in Malibu" is interviewing me for a job tomorrow!

> >Snot has turned black. Thank you, Steph.
>
> Diesel snot.  Carcinogenic, too.

At least Malibu won't give you diesel snot. So there. :-P

> Tony H.

Emily
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yet another comment on beginning books....
      cyclops
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:39:07 -0800
From: randy@halcyon.halcyon.com (C. Brandon Gresham, Jr.)

>I'm looking for a cheap Unix primer because my technical writing courses are
>based on using the Internet, and I've found that Tracey LaQuey's _Internet
>Companion_ is an inexpensive way to introduce students to Internet resources,
>but it contains only minimal exposure to Unix itself.  A combined Internet and
>Unix book would be ideal, but I've only seen Ed Krol's _Whole Internet Guide_
>which seems to bury the Unix instruction, for my purposes, under layers of

This comes from a person with substantial computer experience. BUT I
returned to the States in 1992 and discovered the Internet. I have had an
interesting journey "bootstrapping' my way onto the Internet. I have
sampled about a half-dozen books on UNIX from\through the local library
system. From my view point as a UNIX neophyte the best of them was "The
Waite Group's UNIX Primer Plus" published by Howard Sams & Co. After
several weeks with that at my side, trying virtually everything they laid
out I've graduated to the book I mistakenly purchased by title alone: "UNIX
in a Nutshell" from O'Reilly & Assoc.

Ed Krol's book was a Godsend on the Internet side. For me, as a beginner,
it is a clear win over Tracey LaQuey's and the others I've encountered. I
don't know how your students are connected to the Internet, but I had no
problem using Krol's book "straight out of the box" for my situation where
I dial-up from my Mac on a serial line into a UNIX box. (Perhaps a one
sheet hand-out on file copying and directory traversing, another on mail
and another on the text editor (shudder) of choice could handle the UNIX
end.)

Can't find my copy - or the location from which I ftp'd it - at the moment
but there is a list of UNIX books available 'out there.'

Good Luck!
--------------
Randy

randy@halcyon.com* * * Data is not information is not knowledge is not
wisdom.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:17:57 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
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        I'm so excited that I finally *got* one that all I can think of
        as Dennis the Menace's dog is
        ==============================================::
                                                      ::
                                                      ::
                                                      \/
        .
                                                     SPOT

That reminds me - I've just discovered that in the movie 'Dambusters'
(an old wartime classic), the copy shown in America had the name of
the famous mongrel mutt dubbed out!  Apparently in the US it is known
as 'tigger' (as in the Lone Ranger's horse); over here it was called 'nigger'.

G
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