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From: prabhak@atto.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:50:40 GMT

In article <92252.105030RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>-The point is that Bush and Quayle are playing politics with this
>-issueby taking a fundamentalist conservative position while hedging
>-it with exception clauses.
>-
>-I think an absolute pro-life stand, though guided by sound reasoning and
>-subjective assumptions, leads to bizarre situations: a twelve year-old,
>-raped by a bunch of hooligans, being forced to give birth to the
>-child or face the electric chair for first degree murder. And we have
>-the audacity to think Islamic law is barbaric!
>-
>-Satya Prabhakar
>
>I completely agree with all this.  However, when the extreme positions on
>one side are severely and repeatedly criticised, and all positions on the
>other side are tacitly approved by NOT being criticised, then I smell a
>rat!  My question again, what is your opinion on the mother who takes
>cocaine a few hours before labour, the child is harmed and the Conn.
>high court says, "sorry, but no `person' was harmed", because the harm took
>place while it was still in the womb. To be credible, criticism must be even
>sided.
>
>Rohit Parikh

Criticism need not be even sided if one extreme leads to more bizarre
circumstances and many of them. With respect to your claim that a mother
may sniff cocaine with the desire to harm the child within, such
damage may be cuased by both acts of omission and commission, e.g.,
a mother not taking essential nutrients or a mother not feeding her
children (born foetuses) properly, because of cost or because of neglect.

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Subject: Re: Speeding Ticket
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:34:54 GMT
Keywords: Speeding

In article <192mr0INNh8e@overload.lbl.gov> prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem) writes:
>	Good Luck. If anyone else has a few more hints to add, I'd 
>	appreciate it.

Only hint I can give -

Follow the speed limit and all rules of the road and fear no one. One "saves"
very little time speeding, the constant fear in looking around for hidden cops,
and the occasional ticket are definitely not worth it.

For most parts driving above the speed limit (5-10 m.p.h.) helps one gain so
little time that it can easily be lost taking a wrong exit, or at a traffic
light. Few speed over 10 m.p.h.

In cities, thanks to the number of cars, it is not possible to speed. That
leaves the side streets uncovered, where speeding is dangerous, leave alone
what the law dictates.

Vijay.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: blc@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bradford Lee Chamberlain)
Subject: Info required on Indian Computer Industry
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:43:26 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: news@ugle.unit.no (Deep Third Sand)
Subject: more
Followup-To: please
Keywords: m
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 11:38:43 GMT

do not put water on us.
only
The One!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,comp.fonts,comp.lang.postscript
From: shree@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (sanjiv.bhatt)
Subject: Gujarati (INDIA) fonts.
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: gujarati font
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:06:01 GMT

Hi:

I am looking for Gujarati (INDIAN) font. UNIX/IBM-PC prefered,
postscript will be better, otherwise on any machine or any
formate (Tex/Mac) will be ok. Ofcource free availble.

Thanks.

Sanjiv Bhatt
att!ihlpb!sanjiv
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Why can't Indian girls be more outgoing
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:16:59 GMT

In article <92255.125907U54904@uicvm.uic.edu> <U54904@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Ever noticed how Indian guys and girls just do not socialize . Why is it that
>takes a year before you can hold a decent conversation with a desi female witho
>ut having her run off to do some work. Comments expected.
>
It's like asking why can't Indian men make more sense?

Prabhakar

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From: prabhak@centi.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:29:22 GMT

(Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>(Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>|> Interesting! Say, can you please tell us how you distinguish the
>|> separation of powers between the judiciary and the legislature!
>
>Simple. What's in the Constitution is in their purview, what isn't
>isn't. Wherever laws that violate one or more liberties that the
>Constitution guarantees are passed, the court steps in. Else, it has
>little or no jurisdiction. The rest are left to the people, either
>acting through Congress or by the state legislatures, the former being
>supreme where they come into conflict.
>
So, how can one directly conclude the right to abortion is not covered
by the privacy clause of the constitution? Isn't it left to the
interpretation of the court to determine if it is so covered? And,
finally, isn't interpretation of the semantic import of the original
constitution the very responsibility of the high court?

>|> For example, is Brown outside the purview of the Supreme Court?
>
>Brown v Board of Education (1954) and Plessy v Ferguson (189?) had
>to do with the 14th Amendment, (specifically the equal protection clause) 
>which being a part of the constitution was under the purview of the 
>Court. 
>
Well, the court held for a long while that "separate but equal"
philosophy did not violate the clause. How are the conservatives
able to reconcile with the "activist reinterpretation", ha? :-)

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Gang Rape by Cops in Tamilnadu; Mallikarjun Mansoor dead.
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:18:34 GMT

The latest (Aug 92) edition of Newstrack video magazine (published by
India Today) has one segment of about 15-20 minutes on this.
Makes your blood boil and hang your head in shame. What is the
meaning of freedom and democracy if ordinary people have this
kind of protection. - Ganesh 

   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: Naive Foreigners (Re: Nitya/abortion rights/s.s.chawathe)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:26:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.121623.24740@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>Absolutely! In my humble opinion, Americans are the most gracious people
>in the world. Period. They take pride in the tolerance and encouragement

I read somewhere that minorities (especially the model ones) are treated
nicely as long as they remain numerically weak (note: are
Indian-Americans treated as minorities, legally speaking?). The example
was blacks in Wisconsin, I think. Only when their numbers increase to the
point of becoming a threat do they begin to be perceived otherwise. Or,
when the times are tough.

>they exhibit towards foreigners. Ironically, outside my friends and
>family circle, I get treated better in US than in India. The problem
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A case of familiarity ... :)

[America being superior in accepting foreigners compared to the
insularity of others ...]

>Satya Prabhakar
>(satya@ssdc.honeywell.com)

Sthan.

PS. I made a mistake (actually two) in the item about the Georgetown(DC)
bookstore employees who were fired - about they being all black. (More like
none - though I am not sure.)
--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: subramas@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Suresh  Subramanian)
Subject: Looking for T.K.Narayan from U.Penn, Philadelphia
Originator: subramas@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 14:08:07 EDT

I am looking for T.K.Narayan from U.Penn, Dept of Biomedical Engg.
He is from Bombay. Anyone who knows his e-mail address/ phone number,
please let me know. 

I am also looking for:
1. W.Ramdev	Iowa state university.
2. V.Srinath	Villanova University.
Any info about these people's e-mail/phone is appreciated.

thanks for your time,
Suresh.
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From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:50:40 GMT



In article <1992Sep7.095628.6354@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil sh
aikh) writes:
>hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE) writes:
>
>>all your ranting is getting on my nerves.
>>Do you really think, all your bullshit, and other Indians' too, will
>>make an iota of difference to the situation in Kashmir,India ?
>
>>Besides, in your next article , you point out that Hindus are "only 4%"
>>of the population in Kashmir. 
>>You almost imply, that their opinion does not count. 
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Their opinion counts and in my article I also said that Hindus
>must go to Kashmir to take part in Plebiscit(if ever taken).
>Looking to present situation in the Valley ( I saw News treck video
>by India Today) the decision seems to be the one in the hand of the 
>majority community.
>
>>By YOUR logic,and by arriving at an answer to the following questions,
>>do you think a few dissenting voices ought to be heard?
>>Question: How much of the population of India is made up of residents
>>of the Indian state of Kashmir, including the unfortunate people
>>residing on the land illegally occupied by pakistan?
>
>
>This question can is as silly as any kid can ask.
>
>This is fundamental fact that Kashmir is a colony of India and PAkistan.
>The people of Kashmir never joined with India or Paksitan.
>
>
>One question will make everything clear.
>
>
>In 1947-48 period, Sardar Patel(the Home Minister) joined
>Junagadh(whose Nawab wanted to join with Pakistan)
>and 
>Hyderabad Deccan(whose Nawab wanted to remain independent)
>with India .
>
>He said if the people of Junagadh and Hyderabad wanted to join with
>India then these regions had to join with India.
>
>He was the mastermind behind three way attack on Hyderabad Nizam.
>
>While in the Kashmir he made all agreement with the PM of Kashmir.
>
>
>Where the people of Kashmir gone?
>
>WHERE IS THE TRUTH, Mr. Harsh and all those who advocate wrong propaganda?
>
>
>>as an aside, with only a little bearing to this discussion, are you from
>>Kashmir? if so, where in Kashmir?
>

          Adil, why did not you answer this question ? Are you upset over
 the question or what ? 

Raja



>
>>-harsh
>>-- 
>>_____________________________________________________________________________
__
>>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.ed
u
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: wizard@maxine.wpi.edu (Ajay Khanna)
Subject: Re: Quote of the Day : (Defense Minister Pawar)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:45:32 GMT

WARNING: PROFANITY FOLLOWS.  Please hit 'n' NOW if you think you might
be offended.

The honorable bijal@fusion.Berkeley.EDU (Bijal C. Modi) chanced to say:
= NEW DELHI, India, 1992 Sept 3 (UPI)
= 
=         ``India will teach a lesson to Pakistan that not only its present
= generation but future generations would also remember,'' Pawar speaking at
= a news conference.

Someone I know (a Bombayite) calls Mr. Pawar a "bloody bastard"
politician, and wants to know whether anyone else shares his views.

-dat friendly wizard (Ajay Khanna)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 09:07:31 GMT

banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:

>>JKLF is secular and it stands for the majority of KAshmiris' wish.
>>If Kashmiris ask to join Pakistan or India or Soverigne state.
>>


>Try selling that to the US state Department which lists the JKLF as a 
>terrorist organisation along with such old "favourites" as the Basque
>organisation in Spain, the IRA, the PLO, the Japanese Red Army etc.

It is unfortunate that point like what the US state dept. 
think are raised.

In all above groups.

Not only you but everyone (including Israel) knows that PLO is the sole 
commanding party to represent the Palestinians. It took the violent 
way to liberate its land and start attacking who were supporting to Israel.
So, US state dept. stated it as the terrorist group.

Don't forget India is supporting to PLO.

OK, I come to the point of JKLF.
Why do you blame JKLF?
What attrocities Indian and Pakistani Army has done to KAshmiris?
India and Pakistan are States hence their attrocities are to be neglacted
same way as Israels attrocities on Palestenians have remained unheard?


Bye
Adil


>I guess kidnapping and killing innocent civilians (from the minority community
>in the valley does not impinge on your definition of "secular".  What the heck,
>even the Nazi's could apply for membership to this "secular" club.

>Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu (Sanjay Dhar)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: Materials Science Institute
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:46:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.093503.23670@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:

>mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>>There would have been a plebiscite in Kashmir too, but Pakistani
>>army tried to take Kashmir by force.  The Pakistan army (as it is
>>well known for), began looting and raping, that is also the reason
>>it never reached Srinagar, and the Indian army had to be deployed
>>there on the request of Kashmir's king to restore order.  The Indian
>>army would have re taken Kashmir, if Mahatma Gandhi had not prevented
>>it.  Nehru went to the UN with this Kashmir problem and it was
>>decided there that plebiscite should be held when the Pakistani
>>army pulls out of Kashmir.  India is still waiting for the Pakistani
>>army to pull out.

>>Manoj 



>Manoj:

>Why only Pakistan? Why not China,too?

>Why does India bother of PAkistan when uprising is more in Indian occupied
>Kashmir?

what % of actual kashmiri's are left in POK after decades of transplantation 
of outside population unlike in Kashmir.

>Bye
>Adil


>>>>as an aside, with only a little bearing to this discussion, are you from
>>>>Kashmir? if so, where in Kashmir?
>>>
>>>
>>>>-harsh
>>>>-- 
>>>>_______________________________________________________________________________
>>>>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>>>>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>>>>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu
>>>



dhar@oregon.uoregon.edu
home:(503)-345-3556   off:(503)-346-4762
From: lssk@lut.ac.uk (S Karnavar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ONAM
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:47:28 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.


                                                                            
                                                   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: naikpa@BusLab.cba.ufl.edu (PRASAD A NAIK)
Subject: time pass
Summary: favourite hobby
Keywords: pass time
Organization: College of Business, University of Florida
Distribution: none
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:26:28 GMT
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: (none)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 14:14:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <92253.115144RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Rohit Parikh writes:
>-From: prabhak@atto.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
>-

[about Republicans' cynical propaganda using family values]

>-as President Bush said once that atheists should not probably be
>-considered good citizens of good ol' USA!
>-
>-Satya Prabhakar
>
>Satya Pabhakar has some good points, but I think (s)he makes too much of them.
>

[...]

>public has risen up in righteous wrath!".  What can I say to that except to
>smile wryly? 

or the next best thing, of course.

In keeping with this thread (no matter how irrelevant), a couple of
tidbits:

1. Robert Mosbacher's daughter's sexual orientation was the subject
of a Wash Post Style article. (I forget what his position in the 
President's re-election campaign is - Chairman?.) Among other things, 
it talks about how, for them (ie., the Bush campaign operatives, it
is just business. (But, note the back-pedalling from the family values.)

[stuff about Webster, smoking, Buddha, and dogmas deleted]

>to ask Virginia Slims cigarettes for a grant to fight the practice of "Sati",
>they would be very sympathetic.  After all, their commitment to women's
>health is clearly proved by the fact that they sponsor women's tennis!

!!!

2. A Georgetown bookstore (part of a nat'l chain) had a number of (all?)
employees dismissed for insubordination as in refusing to obey mgmt.
directive to display a calendar of "truly tasteless quotations" containing
the obvious. All the employees were black. One of the employees claimed
to be offended and refused to display the item as ordered to.

Changing times? But, off course.

>Rohit Parikh

Sthan.

PS. Another challenge was sridhar: How do you change the old adage
with the half-full/empty glass to suit this situation?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why the world should be grateful to the USA!!
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:15:11 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: free free - set me free
Summary: free free - set me free
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

>Agree with you that USA is great.  Now let us keep internal peace
>i.e fight the drug menace, poverty, crime, homelessness, fund
>schools etc..etc. Let us solve our own problems instead of
>worrying about the whole world.  I would like to see my tax
>dollars work for this country and not for some dictator in a
>Bannana Republic.

This great country is making use of every dollar of yours. By
having puppet governments all over the developing world the great
U.S. can exploit other nations. Do not worry about the 30 odd
million who are malnourished in the U.S.. Its the country's wealth
as a whole that is important. And U as the taxpayer is gonna
benefit as the U.S. is giving U more than your fair share of return
on your dollar by exploiting other 'republics'.

Long live the U.S. the leaders of 'freedom' and 'free thought' to
all.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Speeding Ticket
Keywords: Speeding
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:27:41 GMT
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <1992Sep14.193604.16529@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:
>
>Also, now would be a good time to spit that chewing gum, and remove that
>Bulls cap. Create as much of a non-student impression as you possibly
>can. Apparently cops go easier on professionals. Worked for me twice.
>In my summer intern garb, I managed to deflect huge fines ... if you can
>believe it, the cops seemed reluctant to fine me ;-) 

	I second that opinion. But don't appear TOO casual about it.

	I have heard of a fellow who was stopped on Butterfield Road
	by the Chicago Gestapo, and this chap joked about the $50 
	penalty being a half-hour's work. So the cop checked out a
	couple of other things on his car (overdue reg, tyre tread 
	depth etc) and managed to nit-pick his way upto $120.
	(ps. This could be an urban legend.    )
	(    But _I_ wouldn't take any chances.)

	I was newly employed by a consulting company when I got fined
	$50 (50mph in a 35-zone). Now, I work for LBL, and the guy
	who stopped me recently let me off. I won't say how fast I
	was going, but frankly, I didn't expect to be let go. There were
	other factors too:
	  o  I overtook a cop on I-880 without seeing him till it
	     was too late. However, I slowed down to 55 by the time
	     he pulled into my lane. So, he did not have a radar
	     read-out showing that I was speeding. My word against his.
	  o  I also said that I was going faster just to pass a truck,
	     and would have slowed down after I was done with overtaking. 
	     Slim excuse, but you never know.
	  
	  To sum up, it depends on how strong a case the cop has against you.
	  Don't count on a job to get you off the hook, but it sure helps
	  if you project yourself as a "responsible" driver, not a menace
	  to traffic.

	Try not to get too much of a speed differential with the rest of
	the traffic.

	Prem!
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==  Q: What is blonde, has big boobs and lives in Sweden ??                   ==
==  A: Salman Rushdie                                                         ==
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:31264 soc.culture.indian.american:2279 alt.culture.us.asian-indian:664
From: mahesh@pinky.Eng.Sun.COM (Mahesh Jethanandani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,sun.misc.indian-interest
Subject: Devnagri fonts for Windows 3.1
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Sep 1992 23:57:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pinky
Keywords: fonts, devnagri

Need devnagri fonts for Windows 3.1 in either of the two formats:

a.	Adobe type I
b.	True type

If anyone has a company name with address/location/phone number please send
me mail.
--
Mahesh Jethanandani

|\/\/\/|                              |      mahesh@eng.sun.com
|  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS    |      Sun Microsystems
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: Why do I read SCI ...
Organization: -
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:54:38 GMT

Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu writes:

>Heard on car-talk: Question: "Our bodies are 70% water. The earth
>is 70% water. So it makes sense to eat foods which are 70% water-
>like vegetables. Who said this: Jerry Brown, Shirley Maclaine or
>The Vice-President Purchasing, General Motors?

Jerry Brown, Shirley Maclaine are far too intelligent to make that comment.
This sounds more in the bracket of the other Vice President (J. Danforth Q.)
and Vijay Fafat (RIP).

Raghavan, V
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