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From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: LOD Split up, Berzerker GOne
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:15:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


To confirm the GEnie report, according to Meltzer, Hawk
of the LOD has left. Apparantly, back in January when 
they dropped the straps, Hawk was suspended for using
drugs (not steroids). Word leaked out of the suspension.
Hawk was pissed because only Patterson and Vince were
supposed to know. Then Hawk read the Penthouse issue
and I guess he got bent out of shape (take that any way 
you want :-) ). Animal will wrestle singles. Hawk may wrestle
as an indie.

The Berzerker is Husstory also. He did not accompany the crew
back from England.

Arezzi is now on 1440AM in Long Island NY Sat AM at 10. The signal
is weak. Vince Russo may end up with John's old slot. I've got
a feeling that McMahan may have helped bankroll that takeover.
It is sad to think that Ted Turner could have forked over
a grand a week to John for "WCW advertising" keeping John
on the radio and McMahan off.

Warrior and Macho formed a bond of friendship at a recent TV
taping. They are known as the Ultimate Maniacs.


My Scoop Slam Scoop Line is open. 908 367 9238. It is simply
a second tel. line in my house with an answering machine on
it giving wrestling news. This net, the Observer, the Torch
and other folks are my sources. There is nothing there that hasn't
been posted. I travel a lot. It is sometimes easier for me to put
new news on my machine first then post later. I make no money doing this.
It is a service to those who have no net access/cant afford the sheets/
don't have wrestling radio shows in their city.

================================================================================


Personal opinion:

Halloween Havoc Main Event - Spin the Wheel make the Deal:
The winning match will be a "Fan's Choice" match. How do the
fans choose? Dial 1-900-RIPP-OFF?

	A half hour in, Ross will show this graphic:

Scientific Match	-51%
Baseball Bat Match	-49%

	"It looks kinda close....", causing every mutant watching to
vote for the Baseball Bat Match...



================================================================================


"Da belt looks goo don jew mang!" 

			-Razor Ramon to Ric Flair

							Charlie
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) says:

>	Like it says, including whoever is acting now, how many people have
>been the Ultimate Warrior since he became that persona?
>	My brother says two, and i say three.
>	So what's the truth?


You are both wrong.  There is/was only ONE Ultimate Warrior:

         Jim Hellwig


ONE.  ONE.  ONE.....

-- 
===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Today's Power Hour
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

Just caught this.  Were the classic clips simply intended to be teasers
for the classic clips they showed on the Clash?  I would think so,
considering that the show is now devoid of such clips, while they were
rather prevelant the last time I tuned in to the show.  The only thing
they did show was the usual Mat Classic, some clips (entirely too short)
of Steamboat vs. Terry Funk.

I liked the Steiners vs. Muto/Sasaki match.  However, I would have
preferred to watch the match with the Japanese commentary.  Zbyszko's
insights were worth listening to, but Schiavone was a waste of time. 
Here you have a fairly technical match being announced by a guy who has
been a pro wrestling announcer for 8 1/2 years, but has never bothered
to learn the names of any of the holds, which is glaringly obvious every
time you listen to him.

One thing I noticed from the match was the way the ref handled tags and
interference.  It was rather "American-style."  I take it that it was
done that way simply due to the fact that the match was going to see air
in America.  My experience watching New Japan matches is that they
rarely do "American-style" refereeing in this regard.  BTW, Scott did
yet another pathetic-looking Frankensteiner.

And just *WHY* is the Barbarian getting such a push?  I can't think of
any other reason than someone figured that they could milk his Whiff
fame.

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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Lessons learned on Prime Time
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:26:26 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division


While watching Prime Time on and off last night, I learned two
things:

1. The WWF "writers" are getting really lazy. I saw Crush's "Hey,
   I'm Hawaiian" interview for the first time. It's amazing that
   rather than work this in somehow, they just have Crush come out
   and say it. I guess it's pretty urgent that this be established,
   huh? Maybe, with the Samoans returning, the next PPV will contain
   the "Polynesian Pummeling": Crush vs. a Samoan for the honor
   of all Polynesian peoples.
 
   I hope this "just come out and tell it" isn't a precedent. 
   Next we'll have UW coming out and saying, "Hey, you know what?
   I just realized... I really hate Kamala! I think I'll go beat
   him up!" It'll save them the trouble of actually thinking up 
   angles. 

2. Brett Hart is a Monty Python fan. During a "satellite" interview
   from a Canadian TV station with McMahon, etc, he wrote off
   Papa Shango's curse by saying, "Maybe he'll turn me into a newt."
   I can just picture the next PPV when we hear Brett Hart's music
   and his introduction, but then Davey Boy will walk down the aisle
   holding a small goldfish bowl and explain that the Hit Man can't 
   wrestle the match because Shango turned him into a newt.

   Two months later, he'll return to the WWF. Vince will wildly 
   yell, "I can't believe it! He turned you into a newt!!" Brett
   will look down and mumble, "... I got better."

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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of the Champion XX
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:16:00 GMT
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <mjenkins.715522879@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes...
> 
>Me thinks Bruno doth protesteth too much. He is always complaining
>that Hogan has no moves, he just kicks, punches, and then goes for the
>legdrop. Gee Bruno, that sounds just like your repertoire! 
[...]
>Bruno should shut-up and be grateful that the McMahon family has a big
>soft spot in their hearts for muscle-bound jocks who can't wrestle
>worth a lick. They employed him for 20 years, and this is his
>gratitude.

But you forget.  Bruno could go into every city on a monthly basis and
either sell out the house or draw very well.  Vince Jr. realized that it
would be the death of Titan Sports if he did that with Hulk.  That's
probably a contributing factor in his expansion, or if not, it certainly
is a realistic justification.

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From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Belt, belt, whose got the belt?
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:45:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <mjenkins.715711770@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes...
>Well, it appears from today's Maple Leaf Wrestling (Canadian
>"Superstars") that Vince is putting forth the facade that Randy Savage
>is still champion, and will do so for some time.
> 
>How many times on the show did they emphasize that Savage is STILL the
>champion? 
> 
>And the match against Razor Ramon this Tuesday in Montreal is being
>promoted as a WWF title match, while Flair-Undertaker is just another
>match.
> 
><Sigh> Looks like we have to put up with this stupid "Savage is still
>champ in the arenas until the title change is shown on TV" crap.
> 
>"Plan B" with Heenan, Flair and Hennig will be the TV script for a
>couple weeks. Probably next week they'll announce the Savage-Flair
>title match for the following week. 
> 
>In the meantime, go to your local arena, and see Randy Savage's
>phantom title reign!
> 


Yeah the same thing is happening here in Cleveland.  There is suppose to be 
a card coming up at the Colisuem soon and Savage is still champ.  But he 
will be fighting Flair for the Strap in a Steel Cage.  

Go figure.

The Catwoman growls in discontent
	

ON another topic.  There was a comment made that someone thought it was a 
misque when Missy said I hear a Harley.

Have you ever heard a Harley?  Those are they noisiest D*mn things.  You 
can hear one well before it gets close.  All the Japanesse imports are much 
quieter.

The Catwoman puts in 2 more pennies.

	I AM RELAXED!!! -  Lt. Worf
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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Flair, Hogan, WWF, NWA, e
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:00:51 EDT

In article <2393.137.uupcb@ssr.com>
dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) writes:
 
>
But I am not sure if Hogan will ever come back.
>From what I have heard, he has no plans on coming back at the present
>time.  he definitely will not work a full schedule if he does.
 
How long has it been since Hogan worked a full schedule?  For most of
the time he was the WWF champion he only worked part time.  I expect
that McMahon would like to get Hogan back for one more run as champ in
order to shore up a shaky promotion.  The weird booking we've seen
lately indicates to me that McMahon is looking for someone around
whom to center the promotion, and he is not finding him.  The return
of Hogan would give McMahon some breathing room.  And it's not like
Hogan's movie career is going anywhere fast....
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: INFO ON HAVOC
Date: 7 Sep 1992 00:27:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   I was just wondering if anyone has an idea of which matches, 
aside from the Jake-Sting match are planned.(light heavy or NWA
title matches)  Any help would be appreciated greatly.

                            Rich
From: evan@flatiron (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Asking marks
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:46:04 GMT
Reply-To: evan@fsg.com

Funny how your mind wanders sometimes.  I was thinking about those stories
we've heard of how marks, especially WWF marks, make up stories to satisfy
themselves about what happens to stories that are dropped.  For example,
that UT had killed UW at last year's Summer Scam

Knowing what we all know about the WWF, what sorts of things would you like
to ask a sincere 100% WWF mark?  I don't mean this in a mocking way, but
rather to see how these things are rationalized.

I'll compile a list.

I came up with a few...
- What happened to "Lovely Elizabeth"?
- What happened to Hulk Hogan?
- Why didn't the naked pictures of Liz show up at (whatever event that
	was)?
- What's the deal with Rocco?
- Where is Jamison?  What was Jamison?
- What happened that made you like the Undertaker?
- Why does UW look so much smaller now?
- Where did Razor Ramon come from?  And why does he suddenly get a match
	with Savage?
- Why don't two name wrestlers ever meet on the syndies?

Any other thoughts?
E--

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Belt, belt, whose got the belt?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:49:30 GMT

Well, it appears from today's Maple Leaf Wrestling (Canadian
"Superstars") that Vince is putting forth the facade that Randy Savage
is still champion, and will do so for some time.

How many times on the show did they emphasize that Savage is STILL the
champion? 

And the match against Razor Ramon this Tuesday in Montreal is being
promoted as a WWF title match, while Flair-Undertaker is just another
match.

<Sigh> Looks like we have to put up with this stupid "Savage is still
champ in the arenas until the title change is shown on TV" crap.

"Plan B" with Heenan, Flair and Hennig will be the TV script for a
couple weeks. Probably next week they'll announce the Savage-Flair
title match for the following week. 

In the meantime, go to your local arena, and see Randy Savage's
phantom title reign!

Does this mean wrestling is fake? 

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: ljr3721@usl.edu (Joey Richard)
Subject: Re: Starcade Highlights...
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:45:43 GMT

shahryar@crc.ricoh.com (Shahryar G. Hashemi) writes:

>Dear all,
>
>I would like to now ask everyone about what matches are most
>memorable from the Starcade PPV shows NWA/WCW has had over the
>years.  Basically like the most memorable matches ever.  I guess
>my all time favorite was the "I Quit" match between Magnum T.A. and
>Tully Blanchard [don't remember the year it happened].

This is not really an answer to your question, but the 'Best of the Starcades'
video is a very good compilation of the most memorable matches ever.  It has
four hours of starcade highlights, including the above mentioned match, as well
as the Valentine-Piper dog collar match, Flair vs. Race for the Hvwt. Title,
Midnight Express vs. Road Warriors Scaffold match, a few Rhodes vs. Flair
matches, and much more. 

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                 | The University of Southwestern Louisiana |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: [WCW] Jobwell vs Scotty thre Jobber
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23: 21:10 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:21:10 GMT
Received-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23: 21:16 CDT


WCW decided to have a match between its two "jobber to the stars"
wrestlers:  Marcus Alexander Jobwell and Scotty the Jobby 
Flamingo.

Jesse gave away the answer that was in my mind (:"who will win?")
when he said half-way through the match, "one of these kids will
win, and one will--unfortunately--lose".

As soon as he said that, I knew MAB was getting at least a minor
push.

Sigh.  At least they mentioned that Scott was a world title holder
so soon after coming to WCW.

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer

Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: Summer Slam (& questions to you know alls!)
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:44:11 GMT

In article <mjenkins.716146661@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>In <18baatINNfsc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij) writes:

	[...Warrior, DiSalvo, Savage, Hall, ...]

>>And they're all Zahorian androids programmed by John Price.

>If you insist. I thought they were all clones of Vince McMahon Sr.
                                        ^^^^^^
Time for a spelling flame.  You left out the "w", and added an extra "e".

	Just another correction from the Johnster.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
From: beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Paul Roma
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:13:53 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

After a less than sensational boxing debut is Paul Roma aka
Romeo Roma stayintg in boxing or is he returning to wrestling
anyone knoiw anything about him?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: art30248@nusunix3.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Subject: Re: Muhammed Ali vs ?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:44:54 GMT

awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) writes:
: Quick, someone tell me who Ali wrestled/boxed a long time ago.
: I believe it was a japanese wrestler.
:
...Ali wasted a main event card against ANTONIO INOKI (can't remember
when) but it was so boring cos' Ali stayed away from Inoki and Inoki was
on the mat waiting to snare Ali.

absolute waste of time. don't bother to look for it.
From: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WBF's new life
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 

To: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)


AP>Some of you undersexed lads have been wondering what will happen to Cameo
AP>now that the WBF is history. :-) Well, the fact that she's married
AP>notwithstanding, she should be around a little while.

Since she hasn't been seen or even mentioned on Body Stars for over
three weeks once must assume she's history.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:11:06 -0400 
From: Todd Alan Padezanin <tp1e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
	<18oinlINN4r6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>


========================
>	Like it says, including whoever is acting now, how many people have
>been the Ultimate Warrior since he became that persona?
>	My brother says two, and i say three.
>	So what's the truth?


You are both wrong.  There is/was only ONE Ultimate Warrior:

         Jim Hellwig


ONE.  ONE.  ONE.....
========================

I haven't followed wrestling steadily for about 6 years, but I still
tune in once in a while.  Anyway, Once when I tuned in late 1990/early
1991 I distinctly remember seeing the Ultimate Warrior (or at least
somebody CLAIMING to be UW) in an interview.  His hair was a different
texture and color, his voice was obviously different, and he actually
looked SMALLER!!  I didn't tune in again for several more months, but
now I see a different UW again, who looks and sounds like the origingal
Ultimate Warrior, but who is also smaller.  I'm not imagining this. 
Some of my freinds who still watch wrestling regularly agree that there
was some kinda switch for a while.  They say that the imposter actually
WRESTLED DIFFERENTLY!!!  I'm sorry, but I just can't beleive that it's
been the same actor playing UW all along.  But why not switch actors for
a character?  Soap Operas do it all the time.....


Todd
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Re: RSPW Weekly Ratings
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:42:01 GMT

In <12854@operator> oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite) writes:

>In article <ventura.716271576@camelot> ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:
>>This is the first installment of Wawczak's RSPW Weekly Ratings:

>According to who? Are these just your personal opinions or are
>you compiling results from readers of RSPW?

These ratings are my personal opinions. I would be happy to change the format
and let the ratings be based on rspw reader input, but it seems that there is
a prevailing attitude of egotism on this group. Many people feel that they are
too good to participate in this kind of stuff or that it is wasting net
bandwidth, while the fact of the matter is that the traffic on rspw is down
about 75% from what it was last year. Until I feel like changing my mind, 
the ratings will be a weekly post based on my own personal opinions and viewing
of the weekly syndicated shows.


By the way, for anybody who watched WCW Saturday Night, did you like Rick
Steiner's comment after Scott finished speaking in his part of the interview?
Rick (to Jim Ross): "Pretty good interview, ay?" 
 
--

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
From: lisa@askinc.ASK.COM (Lisa Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: Sharks/Warriors ticket trade
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:13:08 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

Anyone interested in trading Warriors tickets for Sharks tickets?

I  use to have season tickets for both, but gave up the Warriors
tix this year.  SO I'm looking to trade some Sharks games for
some Warriors games.  The seats are pretty good (sec 23, row D),
$68.00 a pair (includes preferred parking) and I'm looking for
Warriors tickets of equal value.  Like 8-10 games would be very
cool and it doesn't matter much about the teams they would be
playing.

If interested, please e-mail me.
thanks!

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: hamer@ptdca0.intel.com (Eric Hamer)
Subject: Basketball Card lists online ?
Originator: hamer@ptdca0
Organization: Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp., Aloha, OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:24:22 GMT

Is there a place where I can get an ascii file which contains names and 
card numbers for sports cards such as Skybox, Upper Deck, Fleer, etc ??

Thanks,

     Eric Hamer
     hamer@ptd.intel.com

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
From: d89larli@odalix.ida.liu.se (Lars Lindqvist)
Subject: Basketball books
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:31:21 GMT

I need recommendations on basketball books that covers the basics in movment patterns for the different player positions.
 
If you know the publishing company for the book its even better.

Regards Lars Lindqvist
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college