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From: deanc@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Dean Cashen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Cyrix 486SLC: what is it?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:18:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpdmd48.18170035
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID

In comp.sys.laptops / graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff):

>The Cyrix 486SLC is basically a 386SX clone with a 1K cache added.
>The name is rather misleading.  I think "375% faster" is optimistic.
>I've seen real life benchmarks that put it around 20-40% faster than
>an equivalent 386SX.

The "is the 486SLC a 486, or a boosted 386?" argument has been going on
all over the net, notably in comp.sys.intel.  It's probably not valid
to make a blanket statement that the 486SLC is only a 386 clone since it
does run the full 486 instruction set.  People attribute it to being "only" 
a 386 because it sits in the same socket and it's cache isn't as big as a
true i486.  What defines a CPU architecture?  The argument's become
religious.

I agree, though, that the 375% faster statement is optimistic.  I haven't
seen anything to back that up, except the possiblity of when the CPU is
running straight out of cache.  But, as you pointed out, 1K of cache isn't
quite up to snuff compared to 8K, so you can't expect that performance
for other than very specific and short bursts.

Dean Cashen
-- Boise

--------<disclaimer>----------
HP and I share some views, but
the ones above are all mine...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: grichard@swimming.cis.ohio-state.edu (Golden Richard III)
Subject: 386SL Enhanced Parallel Port option
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:19:18 GMT

I noticed that in the otherwise glowing review of the Toshiba 3300SL
in the August PC Magazine that Toshiba doesn't support the 386SL
"Enhanced Parallel Port" option.  Did Intel specifically include this
to make devices which interface through the parallel port faster?  And
do any current notebooks support this option?  Any idea how much
difference it actually makes?  I haven't read any techical info on the
SL chip and wasn't aware that faster parallel port stuff was even
supported.

Being a disk space hog, I admit that a fast parallel interface drive
would be great. 

-- 
Golden Richard III             OSU Dept. of Computer and Information Science
grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu                                   (614) 292-0056
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: Re: Keyboard is all important
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:10:32 GMT

In article <1684282DD.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>In article <chein.920812204021@wilbur.eng.auburn.edu>
>   chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui) writes:
> 
>>
>>With a keyboard of 16" on a laptop? You must be kidding.
>>Sure, why not. Imagine this: a full-size keyboard with a SAME SIZE cover
>>and a 14x6" display .... Who would buy such a baby?
> 
>Why the sarcasm?  I could respond in kind, but i'll bite my fingers
>and not.  I never said the monitor had to change, or the size of the
>casing (well, the case would have to be the same width as the keyboard,
>but that probably would be a good thing anyway).  Actually, a bigger
>screen would be nice too.....
> 
> 
>>You don't need a FULL-SIZE keyboard laptop.
> 
>**** flame on *****
>HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT I NEED IN MY LAPTOP.  WHAT AN ASS!  MAYBE
>YOU HAVE THE FINGERS (and apparently the mind) OF A 5 YEAR OLD, BUT
>I DON'T.
>**** flame off ****
>
EASE! EASE! What a flame!

As miniature is the tendency, you can bet that no full-size keyboard built-in
to a laptop. BTW, you're still TOO KIND. Why 5 YEAR OLD? Well, I learn what I
need to learn at kindergarten (right at 5 YEAR OLD!) -- Who said this?

I don't think the HANDBOOK of Gateway 2000 is for those who have the fingers
(and apparently the mind) of a 5 year old. Neither is the Pocket PC of ZEOS.

Any comment? 

>You can call it a tomato for all I care, I just want a machine that
>I can use and carry with me.

Sure.
From: hel@med.unc.edu (Mark Lefebvre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Toshiba T-3100 hard drive
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:07:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: hel@addor

Does anyone know of a source for replacement hard drives for a
Toshiba T-3100.  I recall there was a company that would replace
the 10 meg drive with a 20 meg drive at a very high cost.  I would
like to do it myself and just obtain the parts.  Any help appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Alan Porter)
Subject: 2 ITEMS FOR SALE: 286 AT and 286 LAPTOP
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:48:15 GMT


286-16 desktop                     286-16 laptop (Bondwell B310-V)
--------------                     -------------
16 MHz processor                   16 MHz processor
1.2 and 1.44 Mb floppies           1.44 Mb floppy
1 Mb RAM                           1 Mb RAM
2 serial, 1 parallel, 1 game       2 serial, 1 parallel, 1 game
20 Mb MFM drive                    40 Mb hard drive
14" color VGA monitor              640x480 16-shade VGA backlit LCD
101 keyboard                       89 keyboard
                                   wieghs about 8 pounds

$600 negotiable                    $800 negotiable


-------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Alan Porter   (big@catt.ncsu.edu)
         address: 104-A Darlena Court, Cary NC 27511 USA
     home phone: (919) 481-4255    work phone: (919) 481-8161
------------------------------------------------------------------


Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: edlee@chinet.chi.il.us (Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: color LCD's 
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:11:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.193541.1291@pony.Ingres.COM> rion@Ingres.COM  writes:
>I've seen a lot of ravings about some of the new color LCD's that are
>available in this group.  Since the displays must be pretty fast, I started
>wondering if these things have a "refresh" rate similar to CRTs, and if so
>if there any problems with flicker.
>
>My curiosity is because a) I would like to get one of these, but have a 
>sensitivity to screen flicker and b)  If the price drops, color LCDs could
>start displacing CRTs on the desktop.  If nothing else they take up a lot
>less room!
>
>Rion
>


There is no refresh rate for active matrix displays.  However,
something that I found annoying was the fuzzy crystalline look of
the glass in front of the display on the models that I have seen.

It certainly would be nice if we could have an entire wall as an
active matrix display for television sets and computer monitors.
It would make a nice, big desktop/walltop viewing area.  There were
some color LCD projector panels at the summer Consumer Electronics
Show in Chicago, so we will probably start seeing those first,
since yield is reportedly a problem with active matrix displays,
just as if they were computer chips, which, in a way, they are.


-Ed L
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: adrian@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (A Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Color Laptops
Reply-To: adrian@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (A Johnstone)
Organization: Dept of Comp Sci, Royal Holloway & Bedford New College Uni London
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:37:11 GMT

Ihave a Toshiba T4400SX (monochrome)and I thought long and hard about
getting a T4400SXC (the colour version). I have seen the colour machine, and it
is VERY desirable. An earlier posting mentions that the colour Toshiba is a big
box: I think the poster had seen the 6400 which is a not-really portable with
an ISA expansion slot. That machine is really a luggable that is shaped like a
notebook but oversized. Avoid this unless you need to add traditional cards and
don't mind mains-only power.

The real notebook has a slightly smaller display than the mono machine but it is
truly gorgeous and in my opinion much preferable to a CRT. Battery life is OK,
but active matrix displays do take considerably more power than passive mono
displays. I decided against getting colour simply because the colour display
added 1700 pounds sterling to the cost of an otherwise identical monochrome
machine, and even though I had the money it did not frankly feel morally (!) right
to burn so much cash on a display. Now the price difference is down to about
\pounds600, and I would probably buy colour. There is no doubt that this is the
wave of the future, the only question is how quickly Sharp et al can improve the
yield of the fabrication process and get the cost down.

Although I had to forgo the colour display, I did get a bonus. The T4400 was
engineered as a colour machine with a HUGE battery. With a mono display, I
get about 4.5 hours use, and that's with 10M RAM and a 120Mbyte disk. Plus the
machine has a significantly smaller footprint than the T1000SE it replaced. If
you love portables and can afford a non-bargain basement notebook, check out
this machine because it is really quite close to perfection (within the constraints
of the PC architecture at least...)

What do I want for next year? A notebook with a 1024x800-ish colour display,
built in ethernet ad most important of all built in SCSI with all the quality
engineering (keyboard etc.)of my Toshiba. Oh, and something as good as the Logitech
portable trackman but integrated into the system rather than dangling off the side.

                                 Adrian
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: wanted: laptop for $200
Keywords: laptop, Toshiba
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:32:02 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


I am likewise interested in any laptop in that price range.

Regards
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,ont.forsale,kw.forsale,cmh.forsale,uw.forsale,york.general,tor.general
From: cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca (TONY D'ALFONSO)
Subject: Laptops for sale?
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:07:23 GMT

I am looking for a laptop/notebook system.  It must have at least 640k on it
and must have at least some kind of CGA emulation, and at least 1 3.5" drive.
A hard drive would be nice but not necessary (as price is an important factor)
I would be happy with an 8088 or 286 laptop (386 would be nice, but there's 
that price problem again...)

It must be able to run word processing software as my main intention is to 
take it to school and take notes with it.  

Anyone selling, please leave me the specs of the machine and the asking price
at cs902117@ariel.yorku.ca.  Thanks.
 
   ____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: 286 Laptop 4-sale
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:30:30 GMT


I have a Bondwell B310 laptop computer for sale.

Bondwell B310:

  2 Meg. RAM
  1 1.44 Floppy Drive
  40 M Conner Hard Drive
  2 RS232 serial, 1 parallel, 1 CGA port.
  3 rechargeable batteries.
  Adaptor/charger
  Size: 13x12.2x2.2 inch.
  Weight: 8.5lb (w/battery pack)
  10.5" supertwist, nonglare, high contrast LCD display
  Real-time calendar/clock (battery backup)

Prefer to sell it as listed above. For 2MB memory, about 1.4MB of it is 
configured as a RAM drive and is very nice in running programs including
WordPerfect. The hard disk can be turned off and therefore no noise except
your typing keystrokes can be heard.

I include 3 rechargeable batteries. For new batteries, each would cost more than$50. I am asking $725 for above system. If I can find a buyer for 1MB memory
upgrade board and 2 rechargeable batteries for $140 ($80 (1 M RAM) + $60
(batteries, $30 each)), I may sell the laptop for $600 (with just 1 Meg. RAM and
1 battery).

E-mail me if you are interested.
From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:08:10 PDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Cyrix 486SLC: what is it?
Reply-To: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)

            <18170035@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>

In <18170035@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> Dean Cashen writes:

>In comp.sys.laptops / graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff):
>
>>The Cyrix 486SLC is basically a 386SX clone with a 1K cache added.
>>The name is rather misleading.  I think "375% faster" is optimistic.
>>I've seen real life benchmarks that put it around 20-40% faster than
>>an equivalent 386SX.
>
>The "is the 486SLC a 486, or a boosted 386?" argument has been going on
>all over the net, notably in comp.sys.intel.  It's probably not valid
>to make a blanket statement that the 486SLC is only a 386 clone since it
>does run the full 486 instruction set.  People attribute it to being "only"
>a 386 because it sits in the same socket and it's cache isn't as big as a
>true i486.  What defines a CPU architecture?  The argument's become
>religious.

I agree, this one is almost as bad as "which editor is best".  But I
think it's splitting hairs to talk about distinctions between the 386
and 486 instruction sets.  The 486 has only six new instructions which
I understand are largely related to controlling the cache.  It's
certainly not as significant as the difference between the 286 and 386
instruction sets.

Whatever it's called, the Cyrix chip has much more in common with the
386SX than it does with the 486DX.

...Michael Graff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley)
Subject: Re: Keyboard is all important
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:26:38 GMT

In article <19920812.101336.513@almaden.ibm.com> graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff) writes:
>In <168419C3D.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu> Chris Barnes writes:
>
>>Does anybody make a laptop that uses a FULL-SIZE keyboard.  I don't
>>mean one that has a plug for a real keyboard, but a laptop that
>>is actually wider than 16 inches.
>
>Amstrad used to make such a machine, but it was only an 8088 with dual
>floppies.

Actually, my Amstrad PPC-640 has an 8MHz NEC V30 and an 8087 as well.  It's
definately over 16" wide: more like 20".  It has a full-size 101-enhanced
keyboard.

It's not only big but heavy too; with batteries (10 C cells) it must weigh
about 10-12 lbs.

I find it to be a good portable terminal though.  I can use the serial port
with a null-modem or the built-in 2400 bps modem.  I like it better than a dumb
terminal since I can emulate different terminals, save logs to disk, etc.

I got it used pretty cheap and it will probably be a museum piece soon ;-) but
I do like the keyboard.

Harry
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From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 10:23:18 PDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Active matrix from Passive matrix...?

In <1992Aug11.234849.576@cs.wayne.edu> Seetamraju Udaybhaskar writes:

>How can an observer tell whether a screen is active matrix
>or passive matrix by just looking at it ?
>
>In color,it  is plain darned easy to tell.  But is there a
>an active matrix BW LCD screen, and how does its visual
>appearence differ ?

There are a couple active matrix black and white screens on the
market.  Most well known is probably the Mac Powerbook 170.  Look at
the screen from the side (perhaps 45 degress left or right).  The
active matrix screen will still be readable, but the passive matrix
screen will fade away.

...Michael Graff
From: daner@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM (Dane_Rogers)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:55:28 PDT
Subject: Re: Need source for cheap LCD for Toshiba T1000SE
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, Oregon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops

Joe, I've been looking for someone with a T1000SE in a basket such as yours.
I have one with a dead logic board.  I am interested in repairing and using
mine so I'll ask what you would want for your junker..or...If you REALLY 
want to fix up yours, what is your offer for mine!!
Dane Rogers
(503) 750-3174
From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: cheap tape backup
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:18:26 GMT
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Distribution: na
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Aug18.144842.19193@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> ayf@pruxp.att.com (Avi Feldblum) writes:
>
>I'm currently using the Backpack Tape Drive from MicroSolutions. It is
>a "250 MB" version [ (DC2120 tape) ""=compressed option ]. It connects
>directly to the parallel port with no added hardware, so is ideal for
>laptops. The street price of the unit is about $400-450, so while not
>as cheap as the stacker mentioned above, is definitly less than
>1000+. 

So where do I find these things?  I've never seen MicroSolutions products
advertised.  I look at local computer newspapers here in the Bay area
and Computer Shopper.  Are they new or just small?

Rion
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: Re: Keyboard is all important
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:40:22 GMT

With a keyboard of 16" on a laptop? You must be kidding.
Sure, why not. Imagine this: a full-size keyboard with a SAME SIZE cover
and a 14x6" display .... Who would buy such a baby?

You don't need a FULL-SIZE keyboard laptop. A YAMAHA or a CASIO maybe.
BTW, it's not laptop anymore. Try portable or desktop.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: bq099@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Juan C. Aguirre)
Subject: Compaq Contura 3/25 with 120Mb HD, where?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 04:39:14 GMT


I ordered a Compaq Contura 3/25 with a 120Mb hard disk from a
local dealer about three weeks ago and still have not received
it.  Has anyone seen a Compaq Contura with 120Mb hard drive?

Also, has anyone know about a company called United Computer 
Express that is in New York city?  I called today and they did
say they had my particular model in stock.   Does anyone know
about this company?

Juan
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 04:29:23 MST
From: <AUWAC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Question RE: T1000SE battery

Hello to all....

I've had a used T1000SE for the past four months, and it's worked great.
However, the battery has finally died, and now I'm having problems with the
system.  It seems that the battery has to be charged in order for me to use the
system, even when it's plugged in.  I can't get the thing to power on, now that
the battery is dead.  Anyone have a similar problem?  Any suggestions?  I'd
like to get it working so I can sell it.  Also, (and I know 100000+ people have
asked this) where does one get a new T1000SE battery?  Any help is greatly
appreciated.  I've tried removing the battery completely, and it still won't
work.  Also, I've done all the obvious things, i.e. check power connections,
outlets, etc.

Thanks much,
Bill Collins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: kritchie@mail1.cis.umn.edu (Kent C Ritchie)
Subject: Value of a Sharp 4602???
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:17:24 GMT

I have a friend who has "aquired" a Sharp 4602 as a part of a business deal.
He is wondering if it's even worth selling.  It has 2 720K floppies, CGA
graphics, an 8088 processor, and a battery.  We don't know much else since
we haven't gotten around finding software on 720K floppies.  Does anyone
know the value of such a laptop?  Is anyone interested in possibly buying if
he decides not to keep it?

--Kent
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.intel
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Subject: Re: Cx486SLC
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:47:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.014543.17813@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpgraham@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John P Graham) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what the difference between a Cx486SLC processor
>and a i486DX/SX is? I have seen Radio Shack selling a laptop with
>the Cx486SLC for ~$2000 ... They offer a i386SL for ~$3000!

The Cx486SLC has a 16 bit data bus, the 486 instruction set (same as 386
plus a handful of others), and a 1KB on chip cache.  This means it's sort
of like a 386SX but the cache and other improvements make it faster but
not quite as fast as a 486.  Note that IBM has its own special 386SX
chip with an 8KB on chip cache which it sells in it's own machines only.  The
Intel 386SL also has an on chip cache.  I don't know how the Cyrix chip
compares to these two.

>Also what is the signifigance of the labels SL,AX,DX??

Uh, not much at all, except for marketing.  I don't know of any AX
chips.  "SL" seems to mean something like "Single word Low power" at
least in the context of "386SL".  "DX" might mean "Double word X"
except that the 486SX also has a 32 bit data bus.  The whole Intel
compatible processor naming scheme is quite arbitrary.  If you want to
know what it means read the spec sheet.

The good people in comp.sys.intel know more about this topic in general.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Keyboard is all important
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:13:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205317.28522@pony.Ingres.COM>
   rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT) writes:
 
>>Does anybody make a laptop that uses a FULL-SIZE keyboard.  I don't
>>mean one that has a plug for a real keyboard, but a laptop that
>>is actually wider than 16 inches.
>>
>
>Do you mean full size keys, or dimensions of the entire keyboard are the
>same as a desktop?  I have a Micronics laptop that uses full size keys,
>but it is only 14" wide; the numeric keypad is "embedded".
 
Same keysize, same distance between keys, seperate number pad, seperate
cursor keys, seperate function keys.
 
IE.  The same keyboard.
 
And not a mush board.  A *real* IBM keyboard would be perfect, but there
are a *few* clone makers out there that make one with almost the same
feel as IBM.
 
PS.  I'm not an IBM fan, but they DO make the best keyboards in the
world.
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: ***LAPTOP FOR SALE***
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 05:12:16 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

My boyfriend bought a laptop for his new job, but quit it a couple of months
later, so now the computer sits unused 99% of the time.
He wants to sell it for $$ to upgrade his desktop.  The laptop is about 6 mos.
old.

Brand: Tandy 1500 HD
DOS: 3.3 (comes with DeskMate, also)
CPU: (IBM compatible) PD70108-10 (V20): basically an accelerated 8088 chip 
	made by Tandy.  10Mhz.
Dim. 12 3/16"x 1 5/8" x 10"
Weight: 5.99lbs.
Power supply: rechargeable Nickel-Cadmium, and AC adapter/charge 120V.  4 hr.
	operation.  Recharges while in use.
Monitor: backlit CGA, 3 shades of blue. 640x200 dots
HD: 20Mb, 23 msec seek time
RAM:640K
Floppy: 1 1.44Mb
Ports: 1 serial(DB-9), 1 parallel(DB-25)
Modem: space avail. for Tandy modem 2400 bps.  (current price $100)
Battery: brand new
Keyboard: 84 Keys w/101 key emulation
Condition: used very rarely, travelled secured down inside hard-case Samsonite.
	Some marks on bottom.

Box, packaging, manuals incl.  Unregistered (blank warranty card incl.)

Bought $1,200 6 mos. ago.  Asking $800, or best offer, shipping incl.

Please respond via e-mail to:

k_lepa@unhh.unh.edu    OR
kal@kepler.unh.edu

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