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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:19:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Top 5 songs
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I couldn't narrow it down to 5...so I kinda categorized them.

Top 5 'not-so-classic' heavy metal/hard rock tunes:

1)  Killing Time       -- Triumph     -- Thunder Seven
2)  Love Song          -- Tesla       -- The Great Radio Contraversey
3)  Just One Night     -- Triumph     -- The Sport Of Kings
4)  All Over Now       -- Great White -- Once Bitten
5)  Ride The Lightning -- Metallica   -- Ride The Lightning

Top 5 'classic' heavy metal/hard rock tunes:

1)  Babe I'm Gonna Leave You -- Led Zeppelin  -- Led Zeppelin
2)  Suite Madame Blue        -- Styx          -- Equinox
3)  Working Man              -- Rush          -- Rush
4)  Dazed And Confused       -- Led Zeppelin  -- Led Zeppelin
5)  N.I.B.                   -- Black Sabbath -- Black Sabbath

What the hell does N.I.B. stand for anyway?

Seeya,
Gary
"Never Do A Drug That Is Named After A Part Of Your Ass"
-- Guy On MTV
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:27:00 CST
From:         "Richard H. Fisher" <ERRHF@TTACS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS

    I recently read an article in MacWorld that discussed the manufacture
CD-ROM's.  CD-ROM's are essentially equivalent to audio CD's in the
manufacturing process, so the costs should be essentially the same.  It
listed a run of about 5000 CD's as costing between $9,500 and $11,000 for
everything, including packaging with four color graphics.  Granted, most
audio CD's have better than four color graphics, but they are also produced
in MUCH higher quantities, thus greatly reducing the cost per CD.  The
article included addresses of manufacturers and broke the costs down pretty
specifically.

In other words, the record companies are probably screwing people over
pretty badly.

Richard Fisher
    ERRHF@TTACS.TTU.EDU
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:35:00 EST
From:         ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Metal list
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Ok...
"Hard Life to Love"   Black Sabbath
"Leper Messiah"       Metallica
"Mach 1"              Ronnie Montrose
"Ain't Talkin Bout Love" Van Halen
"Anarchy Divine"      Fates Warning

...not in any particular order
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:48:17 EDT
From:         HUNK@BRUFPB2.BITNET

Hey you guys out there...
.
.
Sometimes I wonder if you guys can talk about metal rock only...
Isn't anybody out there interested in pop rock ?
.
Who would like to talk about Rick Astley, Debbie Gibson, Seal, The Pet
Shop Boys and much more ?
.
Contact me here in Brazil...
From Admir, on the far (but not outlying   So. America).
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:03:47 EST
From:         CW06GST <CW06GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Give them an inch...

 Actually "Stardust" was written by Fred Flinstone and Barney
Rubble, but when they brought the song to the publisher Hoagy
stole it.
         <<EZ>>
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:41:00 EDT
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      CD Shelf Life
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     I just got off the phone with 3M's research people for Compact
Disc.  The report they published was in regards to the ROM Compact
Disc which is used by various software distributers.  The shelf life
of this device according to 3M is 25 years before any noticeable degragation
appears.  I believe someone on ALLMUSIC said 4 to 5 years.

     3M will be sending me a copy of the above report, and I will post
any pertinent information to the list when I receive it.  It appears
that if the ROM version is good for 25 years, I would think the music
version would be good for at least the same.

Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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Subject: Re: Songs Based on the Bible
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:12:38 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

>I would also  consider songs like "Jesus is Allright" by the Doobie
> Brothers, but only as a last resort.  Also, I'm trying to get songs that are
> not by known Christian Rock bands, i.e. Stryper, etc.  Any and all help would
> be greatly appreciated...
> 
> Latle...........................
>                                 Ace


	Ace -- do you want songs that make reference to Biblical verses,
paraphrase them, or just have a "biblical" theme?  

Thomas Beaudoin
Kansas City
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:09:49 CDT
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:51:55 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Brand Loyalty (fwd)
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> From: Tim Johnson <ST402711%BROWNVM.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
> Subject:      Brand Loyalty
> To: Multiple recipients of list ALLMUSIC <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
>
> >Your typical record buyer has effectively no brand loyalty....
>
>   Hmmm.  I have brand loyalty, but then I'm not the typical
> record buyer - and I'm no big bonus to the labels I buy.  I
> only get a handful of discs a year, but I really like both
> Chandos and New World Records.  (And I will never take a
> chance on EMI)
>                            -Tim
>

I have to admit some loyality to DG - their the only "classical" label
you can trust!

(of course they do call me Headbanger, so what do I know fer classical)
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:39:00 CST
From:         GDLAC@CANAL.CRC.UNO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Metallica Concert
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>There is something else of significance that I noticed at the concert.
>They were a lot of black people there. This is great. Last year, I read
>articles in magazines describing how some blacks were scared to go to heavy
>metal concerts because some assholes would give them a hard time. It is good
>to see that some of that has changed.
>
>Seeya,
>Gary

	Really? I was thinking about going to the one down here (New Orleans)
but I wasn't sure (still ain't) braving the assholes would be worth it. Tell
me, was the concert you went to in the South or in the North?
	This also reminds me of a dream my little sister had-- she dreamed that
she went to the Metallica concert, and there was nothing *but* black people
there (save for James, Kirk, Lars, Jason)! Maybe someday... :-)

Gerald D. Ladmirault
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:45:21 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Loose Bedsprings
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   Seems to me that Mr. Springsteen has become boring in the last few
years.  I was never much of a fan, but I did have a college roommate
from Brooklyn who was heavily into him, and some of his earlier stuff
(where he spouted a zillion words) were ok.  There was also a bootleg
concert album he had that, although recorded terribly, showed the energy
that Da Boss had at the time.

   Fwiw, this roomie had a cousin who was a nurse in NJ, and she said
that before he got famous, Springsteen used to come in looking very ragged
and having needle marks on his arms.  Don't know *why* he would have been
in the hospital, though, and of course, this is 3rd hand info, so it could
be completly false.

Russ
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:09:00 EDT
From:         MN_RUSIGNUOL@ACAD.FANDM.EDU
Subject:      Metallica Concert

        I saw the concert last night (4/6) at the Spectuum in Phili. We were
i  n the nosebleeds, but we had an OK view. The concert really kicked ass, but
there were some dissapointments. Like they played "Nothing Else Matters" and
there was just too much garbage with clapping asnd lighters. They did goof
around too much in the middle of the show, turn "And Justice For All" into
a melody and turned "Seek and Destroy" inot a never ending singalong. BUT,
they played three encores and played for three horrs and they did all the old
stuff, plus "Stone Cold Crazy" and "Last Carress," in the encores, and that
alone would have made it worth while. The people in the stage pit were far too
calm for a Metallica concert. That should really be a "mosh only" section.
        Cool Jig
        Damone


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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:04:46 EST
From:         "Patrick Clauss" <EJCLAUS@ENGFAC.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      RUSH List

    Someone just asked if there is a RUSH request list. I just signed
up for it the other day. The mail comes once a day as a digest, and
it's a lot of messages. Overall, they're pretty good, not too much
discussion of unrelated bullshit.

Here's the address to subscribe:

    rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu

Here's the address to send messages to the list:

    rush@syrinx.umd.edu

In the first message you get, they describe the list and how it
works. It said there are over 1,300 members all over the world, which
I was surprised about. When I was reading it last night, there was
one message from a guy who ran all of RUSH's lyrics through some word-
counting program, and he gave a report on reoccurring (sp?) words in
the songs. A bit weird and useless, but nevertheless, interesting
when you've been in a computer lab all day working on your goddamn
thesis that you're so sick of you want to piss on.

Hope the info helps.

--PC
From: rowhite@wrdis01.af.mil (Ronald D. White)
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Subject: Re: Billy Joel
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:41:20 GMT
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		Absolutely!! Second only to "The Stranger", "Songs from 
	the Attic" is absolutely great!  But you forgot my favorite tune,
"I've Seen the Lights Go Out on Broadway"!

			Later,
				Ron

		"But we went right on with the show..."
P
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:42:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET

A professor here has asked me to post this question....

A student of his has heard that Chopin's "Polonaise in A flat", the "Heroic Polo
   na
Polonaise" may have been used as background music in a commercial.  He would lik
   e to k
like to know if this is true and if so, what commercial.


                                email me direct

                                Thanks

                                Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:39:42 EST
From:         CW06GST <CW06GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Metal rules... death to...

"Cut to the Chase" off of Southern Steel is definitey a METAL
qualifier, and yes, "Cruise Control" is originally from the album
Freefall, although it also appears on Unsung Heroes (I think) with
a different mix.  The part where the different members take their solos
is definitely different.  I like the original version better.  It has a
lot more balls to it.

                     EZ
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:20:00 EDT
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Compact Disc Shelf Life
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I have contacted the 3M Corporation and have been referred to their
CD Customer Service Division.  Since they were in a meeting I was told
they will call back.

I will ask for the CD-oxidation report and post the results to the list
to hopefully clarify for everyone what kind of problems we may or may
not be in for in regards our various collections of Compact Discs.

Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:17:36 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      ROM, I said
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  My original posting (was it April 1?, it should have been), was that
I read an article that said there may be a problem with bit drop-out
on CD-ROMs.  Obviously, a dropped bit here and there on a music CD will
not be noticeable, but on a data CD it could be disastrous.  The article
originated from 3M, I believe.  It definitely stated that the drop-outs
started in the 3-5 year range.  Maybe it takes 25 years for there to be
enough drop-outs so that the built-in redundancy of a CD cannot compensate.
I'm curious as to exactly what the 3M article says, Steve.  Let us know
when you get it.

Russ
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:43:24 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yellow is the color of my true love's hair

On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:36:39 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU> was anal retentive for a moment:
>> Other songs of similar ilk:
>>
>> Down In The Valley
>> The Banks of The Ohio
>> The Water is Wide
>
>Most of these folk songs were as well known to the man in the street back then
>as the Top 40 is today. The reason why the Mexicans called us norteamericanos
>"gringos" is because the anglos used to sing "Green Grow the Rushes O" and the
>first two syllables stuck.
>
>> IHTH!
>
>Huh? I kinda hate the 19th century myself, at least until Debussy got rolling.
>BTW, congratulations on your nuptials!
>
IHTH is shorthand for I Hope This Helps.  Thanks for the congrats.  The reason
I thought of "The Water is Wide" was that I sang a verse of it to my bride as
part of the wedding ceremony (to much teary-eyedness amongst the congregation,
I might add).

-Scott "Not a Professional Folk Singer, But Getting Better" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date: 10 Apr 92 19:17:37 GMT
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No, but......


ATO!	ATO!	ATO!	ATO!	ATO!	ATO!
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:44:58 EDT
From:         Jon <JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Metal Lists
              9 Apr 1992 16:48:00 EDT from <JL_BOBROWITZ@ACAD.FANDM.EDU>

top 3 metal songs: 1) rock candy (montrose) 2)operation mindcrime (yes I
know it isn't a "song") 3)...and justice for all.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:58:00 EDT
From:         "BTW, which one's Pink?" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CDs again

>  I spoke with the person who showed my the original article re. CD
>lifespan.  She said the test was done by the Libary of Congress, who
>were putting books on CD ROMS.  She said she'd try to find the article
>again for me.

No, that doesn't sound very good for the CD.  So, is there a certain number
of books you can put on the CD before the weight hurts it?  I would think the
jewel case might crack after a while, but the CD itself should be quite
sturdy................   :-)

sorry, I'm a bit tired as you can probably tell.

getting ready to listen to the new Def Leppard....thrills

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Subject:      RE: Metallica Concert
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From:         MN_RUSIGNUOL@ACAD.FANDM.EDU
Subject:      Metallica Concert

>        I saw the concert last night (4/6) at the Spectuum in Phili. We were
>i  n the nosebleeds, but we had an OK view. The concert really kicked ass, but
>there were some dissapointments. Like they played "Nothing Else Matters" and

What's wrong with Nothing Else Matters. They can't play ALL headbangin tunes.

>there was just too much garbage with clapping asnd lighters. They did goof
>around too much in the middle of the show, turn "And Justice For All" into
>a melody and turned "Seek and Destroy" inot a never ending singalong. BUT,
>they played three encores and played for three horrs and they did all the old

Encores...you can't really call them encores...because they planned to do
them. I'd just call them mini-breaks.

There is something else of significance that I noticed at the concert.
They were a lot of black people there. This is great. Last year, I read
articles in magazines describing how some blacks were scared to go to heavy
metal concerts because some assholes would give them a hard time. It is good
to see that some of that has changed.

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:33:53 PDT
From:         James Hedberg <hedberg@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS (fwd)
X-To:         Music Discussion <allmusic@auvm.american.edu>

Forwarded message:
> From: "Richard H. Fisher" <ERRHF%TTACS.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
> Subject:      Re:  CD COSTS
>
> In other words, the record companies are probably screwing people over
> pretty badly.

I think we need to remember our U.S. economics!  Our prices are based
on what the market will bear, not what things cost or are worth.

-Headbanger
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:37:00 EST
From:         Tim Hildebrandt <TMH@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Song title?

>  They gotta lotta nice girls
>  down there...", screaming guitars go here!
> Is this ZZ Top song called "The Range" or something else and on
> what disc can it be found? Thanks
>
   That's La Grange as in La Grange Texas.

  Tim H.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:45:20 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      fear of music
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  Ok, here's one for you philosophers/anthropologists.  My 3 year old likes
to "play" "music" in my cellar studio.  She plays drums, keyboards, and
sings.  She'd play guitar too, but it's too big for her.  The other day
I decided to run the cheesy keyboard through a relatively hi-tech effects
box, and got some very interesting sounds.  I would categorize them
as "spooky".  They scared my daughter and she high-tailed it back upstairs.

   Now, how did she know to be afraid of those sounds?  It's not like she's
been watching horror movies (Sesame Street is more like it).  The music
was of the repetitious, "can't get away from it" type.  She's *likes*
noisy "walls of sound".  She sctually asks to listen to the Kronos Quartet
(which is more than I can get from my wife!).  So why did she decide that the
"spooky" music was stuff to get away from?  Why do *I* call it spooky?

Russ
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