HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
X-Organization: Marshall University
X-Envelope-to: HISTORY@PSUVM.BITNET
X-VMS-To: _IN%"HISTORY@PSUVM.BITNET"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:49:00 -0400
From:         "Michael J. McCarthy" <YEA003@MARSHALL.MU.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hoover

From: Ed Haupt <haupt@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
>
>Where would I find information on Hoover's activities in food relief after
>World War I?
>Edward J. Haupt
>snail:                                    voice: 1(201) 893-4327
>Department of Psychology               internet: haupt@pilot.njin.net
>Montclair State College                  bitnet: haupt@njin
>1 Normal Ave.
>Upper Montclair, NJ 07043-1624
>                      USA


        I will check my references when I get home this evening, but there is
one bibliographical source that I always recommend to anyone looking for
information on the US in the First World War:  David R. Woodward and Robert
Franklin Maddox, eds., _America and World War I:  A Selected, Annotated
Bibliography of English Language Sources_.  I have found it quite useful, and
not simply because Woodward was my MA Thesis advisor.  I will check it for you
this evening.

-------------
Mike McCarthy                   "An hungry historian spent a hour and an half
Marshall Univ. History Dept.    hasking an hundred friends habout indefinate
Huntington, WV 25755, USA       harticles.  An history of the event made 'er
YEA003@Marshall.WVNET.Edu       an happy camper."
YEA003@MARSHALL.BITNET                  -- Jamie Drier, An Philosopher
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:32:41 EDT
From:         Cal <PRYLUCK@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Liberal (was Capt. Thomas Abbe & the election...)
Comments: To: History Discussion List <HISTORY%RUTVM1.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
              6 Nov 1992 14:55:38 EST from
              <LABBEY%GTRI01.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

Sorry Lenny:  You are entitled to your opinion on "liberals" but you are not
entitled to misinterpret programs.  The food stamp program has less to do
(politically) with "the underprivileged" than with agricultural support
programs.  The Food Stamp program is, in effect, a subsidy to agricultural
interests.

Cal Pryluck, Radio-Television-Film, Temple University, Philadelphia
<PRYLUCK@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>  <PRYLUCK@TEMPLEVM>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:24:59 CST
From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Bristol History Orgs.

I am in need of mailing addresses for the following two organizations in
England; anyone help? Thanks...

Historical Association of Bristol
Bristol Medico-Historical Society (Assoc?)

A.J. Wright/meds002@uabdpo
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:24:47 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: US NATIONAL EPIC

On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:09:27 EST THOMAS M. RICKS said:
>Dear History Colleagues:
>My Humanities Seminar has been discussing a number of "national" epics, ie, fe
>rdowsi's Epic of the Kings for Iran, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Song of Roland
>or France, etc. We turned to the US and tried to find our "national" epic. Alt
>ough some of the students suggested Gettysburg Address, Preamble to the Consti
>ution, etc. none of the students felt we had found the US National Epic.
>
>Any ideas, suggestions or comments - if we have no national epic, why not?
>
>Epically yours,
>
>Tom Ricks
>
Easy.  We haven't done anything epic yet.  A lesser, but important point, is
that there aren't any real epic writers around any more.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: Pre-colonial America to 1700
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:08:37 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <9211100035.AA08605@lingua.cltr.uq.OZ.AU>, "(Marion Diamond)" <med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU> writes:
> Ka
> 

  (S)ka?
From: slib1083@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: help from ohio?
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:46:40 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

I've not heard of the Conn Cemetery in Perry Co. however I do know that there
is a small town outside of Athens Ohio (Athens Co.) called The Plains. This may
be of interest to you. Good Luck.

Ralph Gabbard
Internet: RGABBARD@SEL.EDU
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:09:54 CST
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
From:         steve mcnutt <Z1SSM@TTUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: civil war

     sorry, i should have been more specific.  i was talking about the u.s. civ
il (aka-the war of the rebellion, the war for southern independence, the war of
 northern aggression).
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:23:00 EST
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject: RE: Graduate schools

On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:42:00 CDT Peter Davis <AXTHEPD@UICVMC.BITNET>
said:

> In light of recent salary schedules for history professors in
> the US published by the AHA, my advice is to dump history and go to
> business school. Just a thought.

I am sure that P.A. Davis wrote this tongue-in-cheek (a little),
but also with a bit of the resentment that we all feel. Still,
go to business school, but get advanced degrees so that you
can have an academic career. There are very few jobs that
allow one to decide on the spur of the moment to chuck things
and leave work at 2 pm to pick up the children from school.

Denis Paz
Department of History
Clemson University
South Carolina, U.S.A.
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Presidents who studied abroad
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:24:22 EST

In article <1992Nov10.001513.12134@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George) writes:
>In article <HISTORY%92110912372541@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET writes:
>>Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, as everyone
>>knows. John Kennedy was a junior year abroad student (I
>>think) at the London School of Economics. Did any of
>>our other US Presidents study abroad, either at the
>>universities, or the Inns of Court, or outside Britain?
>
>I would suggest you examine the life of Herbert C. Hoover. IMO he is the most
>likely 20th century President (aside from the President-elect) to have
>studied abroad.  Pres. Hoover was a very-renowned engineer who lived outside
>the U.S. for an extended period of time.
>

I might suggest the life of Woodrow Wilson. As a history professor and later
president of either Rutgers or Princeton he would no douvt have studied 
overseas for his PhD.

Chris

Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:24:20 EST
From:         "Philip J. Schwarz" <pschwarz@CABELL.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help from ohio?
Comments: To: HISTORY%PSUVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
              12, 92 4:26 pm

>
>      i was wondering if there was anybody out there who lives anywhere near
> the ohio state capital (cincinatti?). i'm told that the capital has all the
> existing flags flown by civil war regiments from ohio. i'm trying to find out
> if there is anyone out there who would be willing to take a picture of it for
> me. i would be more than happy to pay for whatever it costs to
> take/develop/mail the picture.
>      also, i was wondering if anyone has ever heard of "the conn cemetery,
> perry co. ohio"? My great-great grandfather was supposedly buried there (he
> died may 27, 1915 in "the plains, ohio"). i've searched in various records for
> it but can't find it.
>      thanks in advance.
>
>
> I am researching the following individuals and families. i would appreciate
> hearing from anyone working on the same lines: Mcnutt family, blahnik family,
> rowena chase, elias garland fisk, howard george fisk, tuttle family, maxwell
> family (particularly james eli & jacob ?), letitiagriffin, linton family,
> joseph hartel.
>
>      most of these families were families were from the ohio area, with the
> following exceptions: the fisks may have been from s.d., in., or il.
>                     the blahniks & hartels settled in (kewaunee?) wi, but were
>                        originally frombohemia.
>                     some of the earlier mcnutts (before c.1850) may hve been
>                        from pa.
>
> thanks again,
> steve
>
You'll have better luck if you ask about Columbus as the capital of
Ohio.
As for the families you're doing research on, find out the Internet
address of Ohio State Univ. Library.  Some of the holdings of the
Ohio Historical Society, the Ohio Geneal. Society, and the Ohio
State Library are on the OSU catalog.  The Ohio Historical Society's
Library is quite strong on local history, biography, and genealogy.
I visited it last May and stayed longer than I had planned to
because its holdings are so good.
If you can't find the Internet address of OSU, I can get it for you.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:16:21 -0600
From:         drummond andrew <adrummon@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Book List Request: Frederick the Great
Comments: To: HISTORY@psuvm.bitnet

Concerning Frederick's military campaigns, you might want to take a look at
the last volume of Hans Delbruck's History of the Art of War.  Delbruck
wrote it in the 1920s, but it's still interesting reading.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:10:11 EST
From:         Lenny <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: civil war
              10 Nov 1992 23:02:51 CST from <Z1SSM@TTUVM1.BITNET>

I do a special kind of Civil War reenactment of my own design.

I collect military firearms, and have several originals from the Civil War
period.  If you shoot muzzle loaders you just about have to cast your own
bullets from moulds which are readily available.  Both round ball and
Minnie ball.  I have a large electric melting pot of lead which I use for
my casting activities. (You wouldn't believe how expensive lead is nowadays.)

Well, I am a sentimental sort of person.  So a couple of years ago I took
3 or 4 old used Civil War bullets, the kind you can buy for 50 cents an
any of the big battlefields, and dumped them in the pot of molten lead.
These were bullets which had actually been used in the war, and as long as
I don't let my pot go dry, there will be a little of the Civil War in every
shot I fire with these historic guns.

Silly, but I like it.

Firing these old guns gives you a unique feeling of "participating" in
history.  I suppose it is about the same as getting a ride on the John Bull.
(I have an old oil lamp from Palestine, circa 200 A.D.  I have fired it up
several times.  It works!)


Lenny
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
From: accran@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Robert Nehmer)
Subject: Re: US NATIONAL EPIC
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:24:43 GMT

"THOMAS M. RICKS" <RICKS@VILLVM.BITNET> writes:

>ution, etc. none of the students felt we had found the US National Epic.

>Any ideas, suggestions or comments - if we have no national epic, why not?

I was told in high school that _John Brown's Body_ by Stephan Vincent
Bennet [sp?] was written as the national epic, at least in the author's
own mind. It never caught on. But I enjoyed it.

Cheers
From: PERICLES@TEMPLEVM.BITNET (Daniel P. Tompkins)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: election day comment
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:47:05 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
              6 Nov 1992 01:08:37 GMT from <akerr@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

When did Philly get into this?  Anyhow, Lincoln Steffens did call it
the most corrupt city in America.  Boise Penrose, Harvard grad, was
evidently skilful atworking both sides of Broad St, i.e. straddling
class lines.  The democractic reformers of the 50's, Clark & Dilworth,
worked to change all  that--or did they?  By contemporary standards
they'd probably seem to have ignored racial and ethnic tensions, and
they sowed further problems by making Frank Rizzo police commissioner (I
think I have this straight).

Dan Tompkins, Classics, Temple
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: UVa PCMail 1.7.1
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:32:51 EST
From:         "James G. Carrier" <jgc5p@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hoover
Comments: To: History Discussion List <HISTORY%RUTVM1.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu>

I do not know about the rest of the crowd, but I much enjoyed the bit on
Hoover. Thanks for the effort of digging it up and posting it.

          James G. Carrier

29, University Circle / Charlottesville, Virginia, 22903
(804) 971-2983 / jgc5p@virginia.edu
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:38:46 EST
From:         Tom Powers <TPOWERS@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: high school mythmakers
              2 Nov 1992 12:23:42 -0700 from <J_CAUSEY@CCNODE.COLORADO.EDU>

Jim Causey asks where I went to high school. I presume this reflects
his disbelief about some of the racist myths I learned there. The
specific school really doesn't matter, especially since the relevant
textbooks were widely used throughout the state, and were perhaps
state-selected. Suffice it to say that I was schooled in the early
1960s in a rural county of Southside Virginia, not far from Prince
Edward County of _Brown vs Board of Education_ fame. I was in school
while Virginia was trying to carry out its anti-desegregation strategy
of "Massive Resistance."

And I really don't think my education was that unusual for that time
and place.

Would any other children of the '60s segregated south care to add
their perspectives?


Tom Powers
The University of South Carolina at Sumter
(Ironically, located adjacent to Clarendon County, SC, of _Briggs
vs Elliott_ and _Brown vs Board of Education_ fame.)
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: UVa PCMail 1.7.1
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:04:41 EST
From:         "James G. Carrier" <jgc5p@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      For J. L. Bronstein
Comments: To: history%rutvm1.BITNET@Virginia.EDU

First, general apologies for using the board to pass a personal message. The
reason is that my Daemon would not accept the `Reply To' address. To make
matters worse, I am not even sure which list reader got through to Bronstein
in the first place. I thought HISTORY was the safest because the broadest.
     If someone can pass on to Jamie L. Bronstein (History, Stanford) my
thanks for the advice about 17th C. gloves, I would be grateful (though
perhaps not so grateful as to offer a 17th C. glove in thanks).

          Yours, abashed,

          James G. Carrier

29, University Circle / Charlottesville, Virginia, 22903
(804) 971-2983 / jgc5p@virginia.edu
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:21:01 EST
From:         TOM HADY <HADY@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: help from ohio?

The genealogy list is ROOTS-L @ NDSUVM1.

--TOM HADY, National Economy & History Branch, Economic Research Service
   U. S. Dept. of Agriculture -- Voice: 202-219-0780  Fax: 202-219-0202
           BITNET: HADY@ERS  INTERNET: HADY@ERS.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
From: glhewitt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Gary Livingston Hewitt)
Subject: Re: Graduate schools
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:02:21 GMT

In article <HISTORY%92111108245376@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET writes:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:42:00 CDT Peter Davis <AXTHEPD@UICVMC.BITNET>
>said:
>
>> In light of recent salary schedules for history professors in
>> the US published by the AHA, my advice is to dump history and go to
>> business school. Just a thought.
>
>I am sure that P.A. Davis wrote this tongue-in-cheek (a little),
>but also with a bit of the resentment that we all feel. Still,
>go to business school, but get advanced degrees so that you
>can have an academic career. There are very few jobs that
>allow one to decide on the spur of the moment to chuck things
>and leave work at 2 pm to pick up the children from school.

To which I add two words:  SUMMER VACATION.

Didn't I just see that faculty salaries rose for historians last year,
after a few years of stagnation?  I didn't read the rest of the AHA
newsletter.  Oh well.

Gary
-- 
  ++====+========+==========+=======+===++
  ||    |    Gary| L. Hewitt|       |   ||  HELP!  I've been imprisoned
  || glh|ewitt@ph|oenix.prin|ceton.e|du ||  by my .signature!  HELP!
  ++====+========+==========+=======+===++
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:08:04 EST
From:         Lenny <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: help from ohio?
              12 Nov 1992 21:24:20 EST from <pschwarz@CABELL.VCU.EDU>

There is an active list covering geneology but I forget its address.

Send a LIST message to a large listserver somewhere.

Lenny
From: MEYERR@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: BOOK ON FREDERICK II
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:58:00 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-VMS-To: IN%"HISTORY@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU"
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU

INCLINATIONS.HIS ONLY OFFSPRING RUMORED TO BE A DAUGHTER BY BALLERINA FROM
 ITALYVOLTAIRE SAID HER ATTRACTION TO FREDERICK WAS BECAUSE OF HER ATHLETIC LEGS
 WHICHRESEMBLED A BOYS.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:58:14 -0800
From:         "John E. Talbott" <jethist@HUMANITAS.UCSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: British naval officer
Comments: To: History <HISTORY@psuvm.bitnet>

Mr No.akes should contact the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, England,
for information on Meares.

J.E. Talbott

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992, Mary A. Gallagher wrote:

> J. Richard Nokes, a scholar who has written on the Pacific Northwest,
> would like the list's help in finding information on the life of John
> Meares, a British naval officer who served during the American Revolution
> and explored the Pacific Northwest during 1786-1790.  He is interested in
> information about Meares before and after the period 1776-1790.  He may
> be contacted at his home: 14650 S. W. 103rd Ave. Tigard, Oregon, 97224,
> or I will gladly forward any e-mail replies to him.
>
> Mary A. Y. Gallagher
> The Papers of Robert Morris
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:54:37 EST
From:         Lenny <LABBEY@GTRI01.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: high school mythmakers
              9 Nov 1992 08:59:00 EST from <DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET>

The Mexican constitution might forbid slavery, but when I was in Baja
last year, I saw thousands of slaves.  I think that 90% of the population
is slave.  Their chains are economical and educational, but are these
chains less real?

Lenny
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:13:21 -0800
From:         "John E. Talbott" <jethist@HUMANITAS.UCSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: election day comment
Comments: To: History <HISTORY@psuvm.bitnet>
Comments: cc: "J. E. Talbott" <HI02TALB@ucsbuxa.bitnet>

I can see why you'd doubt its accuracy, but why its veracity?

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992, Steven H Silver wrote:

> I've found a number of mistakes in the American version of Trivial Pursuits,
>  andimagine that the Canadian and British versions are also filled with errors
>  so
> it only increases my doubt as to the quote's veracity.
>
> Steven H Silver                =         "Outside a dog, a book is a
> Indiana University             =         man's best friend.  Inside a
> SHSILVER@ucs.indiana.edu       =         dog, it's too dark to read."
> SHSILVER@IUBACS.BITNET         =            -Groucho Marx
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Subject: Re: Hoover in Oz (Was Presidents who studied abroad)
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:57:18 GMT

The Hoover Library in West Branch, Iowa, has an excellent and friendly
staff, and just about every scrap of Hoover paper one might wish.  Back
when i was doing my dissertation research, I sent them a query with a 
one-line clue, on the off-chance they'd have something, and back came
the response that I really ought to come look, because there were 
-feet- of material.

I betcha they'll have the barmaid song, reviews if any, and cross-
references to critiques and genre-histories.

--bayla singer  bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: history@rutvm1.rutgers.edu
X-VMS-To: IN%"history@rutvm1.rutgers.edu"
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:57:54 -0500
From:         KOHANJJ@HIRAMB.BITNET
Subject:      graduate schools
Comments: To: history@rutvm1.rutgers.edu

I apologize for omitting my field of interest.  I am working toward a Ph.D. in
U.S. cultural/social history.  I have been specifically looking at Wisconsin,
North Carolina, Michigan, North Carolina, and Berkeley.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jim
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:35:13 +1000
From:         "(Marion Diamond)" <med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: Pre-colonial America to 1700
Comments: To: HISTORY%RUTVM1.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

Ka

Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: HISTORY@PSUVM.BITNET
X-VMS-To: IN%"HISTORY@PSUVM.BITNET"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:04:00 CST
From:         NFPKP2@AUDUCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: crusades

Always begin with the Council of Clermont (1097?) and Pope Clement II.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:51:37 -0600
From:         MASOUDER@ALEX.STKATE.EDU
Subject:      RE: US NATIONAL EPIC
Comments: To: HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

How about John Dos Posso *USA* Trilogy that spans from the end of the 19th C.
until the depression?

Mick Souder
masouder@alex.stkate.edu
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:33:00 EST
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject: RE: US NATIONAL EPIC

That's "Dos Passos" -- but it was clever of you to
think of prose epics -- so Steinbeck's _Grapes of Wrath_
might be a US epic. So might Bernard Devoto's book on 1848,
_Year of Decision_?, _Year of Destiny_. I read that when in
junior high or high school, was moved mightily by it, and
thought that it was splendid history. A year or so ago, I
went back to it and was repulsed by its unexamined
cultural presuppositions, its ethnocentrism, and its
lack of perspective on the distribution of power.

Denis Paz
Department of History
Clemson University
South Carolina, U.S.A.
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:46:32 EST
From:         Ed Haupt <haupt@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
Subject:      Re: Hoover
Comments: To: History <HISTORY@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>

Where would I find information on Hoover's activities in food relief after
World War I?
Edward J. Haupt
snail:                                    voice: 1(201) 893-4327
Department of Psychology               internet: haupt@pilot.njin.net
Montclair State College                  bitnet: haupt@njin
1 Normal Ave.
Upper Montclair, NJ 07043-1624
                      USA
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU