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From: singletn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (Jeff Singleton)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center - Hampton, VA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:33:50 GMT

In article <Bvur8r.5rv@news.larc.nasa.gov>, cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
(Charlie Cockrell) wrote:
> 
> In article  <> dporter@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Doug Porter) writes:
> >Actually, I've never seen a band that I enjoyed more.  My band experience is,
> >for practical purposes, limited to Ga. Tech games, but I have never been 
> >entertained on par with UVa (except for about a 3 week stretch when the GT band
> >was apparently trying to BE the UVa band, but they gave up and became 
> >pretty boring again).  I can see how people could be put off by their acts 
> >(is it true that the governor of West Virginia once banned them from ever
> >playing there again?!?!), but all I can say is LIGHTEN UP, 99% of the other
> 
> I'm not sure if that's true or not - the Band did get in a lot of
> trouble for a show they did at WVU. That game actually resulted in
> the formation of the review board, which is why they're not near as
> funny now. One thing I seem to notice is that people are more
> offended by the Pep Band now that we are winning consistently. When UVa
> had a bad football team, people just thought they were funny.
> 

  No, the Governor of WV never banned the UVa pep band from the state.  I
was
  at the aforementioned WVU-UVa game which started most of this brouhaha. 
At 
  the time, I was highly offended for the following reasons: 1) WV was
favored
  and undefeated at the time and UVa stomped the bejeezus out of us, 2) our
  own idiot cheerleaders were sucked into the show hook, line, and sinker,
3)
  West Virginians are naturally a little thin skinned about the hillbilly
  image.  Looking back now, I think the show was pretty good and it 
  definitely "got our goat" as intended.  Charlie has it right - when UVa
  beats a team AND makes fun of them they don't find it very funny.  When
  UVa loses then everything is "all in fun".

  And just to keep the flames alive - I really can't believe that people
  think PSU's band is any good.  Things change though - the last I saw
  of them was in the early 80's and they were pretty attrocious then.


  jeff singleton
  -----
  WVU '84  Georgia Tech '88
  Give Blood - Play Rugby!   Newport News RFC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU vs. Fresno State
From: $garyf@SASB.BYU.EDU (Gary B. Fitzgerald)
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:08:47 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University
Keywords: 4th and an inch
Summary: should he or shouldn't he?

>OK, Cougar faithful who saw the Fresno State game -- did Lavell goof?
>In the fourth quarter, with a six point lead, BYU went for a 4th and
>inches play.  We made the play (and then the touchdown), but it was
>in easy field goal range, and a 9 point lead with <2 minutes left would
>have iced the win.

I definitely agree, the field goal was the smart play.  Lauder is definitely 
not the go to guy, but it was an easy kick well within his range.  I don't 
get this guy, the coaches say he can boot an easy 60 yarder, well then why 
can't he kick 20 yarders consistently?  

If Lavell doesn't have enough confidence in his special teams to make a 
short 35 yard field goal, there is a problem.  It is so unlike Edwards to 
not make the safe play.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Those who don't study history (Illinios/Ohio State)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:13:47 GMT

pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:

>What the hell was Makovic thinking when he took a point off the board to go for
>two?  With all the time that he must have put in studying game films, you would
>think he might have noticed what happen to OSU last week when Cooper did this.
>Had he lft the point up there, OSUs field goal attempt would have been to tie 
>the game rather than to win it.

Mackovic was probably more concerned with the UT-OU game now that he's
at Texas. :)  (Lou Tepper is UofI coach now).

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: Patrick E Fleming <pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:19:11 GMT


>BUT, for USC Trojans, the USC vs Notre Dame rivalry is the biggest.
>It has been nicknamed the "friendly rivalry", and was so up until 10
>years ago.  Unfortunately some of that friendliness has died on both
>sides.

Ten years ago?  In 1966 Ara Parsegian's Irish  beat the living crap out of John
McKay's Trojans by the score of 61-0 and John McKay vowed never agin to lose to
Notre Dame.  I'm not even sure if that was when the "friendliness"  left the 
rivalry.

>  The entire rivalry started back in the 20s or 30s (someone
>else may have the date) when the President of USC and the President of
>Notre Dame agreed to have the two teams play... They were both on a
>train trip with their wives.  It seemed that the wife of the President
>of Notre Dame liked Southern California weather, and the wife of the USC
>president want to take her shopping...

First, the series began in 1926 and has been played every year except once or 
twice during WWII.  Second, the president of Notre dame does not have a wife.  
No president of Notre Dame ever has.  Ever since the University of Notre dame 
was founded in 1848, the president has been a priest.  However, there is a 
story that it was Knute Rockne's wife who decided that Notre Dame should play a
game on the west coast.  Rockne (Knute, that is) initally indended for the game
to be agianst California but could not work out the details.  So he called in a
favor from long time friend caoch Harper at USC and one of the greatest 
intersectional rivalries in college football was born.

     - Pat
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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:04:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.183943.6402@ods.com> david@ods.com (David Engel) writes:
>R. Jayakrishnan (jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
>:   But seriously, when will the aggies stop crapping about how bad the
>:   Texas team is ?   Our losses have only been against two top-15 teams,
>:   and at least one of the two games we could have won, but for the QB and
>
>Oh, yeah!  Well, our losses have only been against ...  Oops, I almost
>forgot, we don't have any losses.  <grin>
>
>David


 Well, how many ranked teams have you played besieds Stanford?
 How many of the unranked and rank smelling teams have you blownout?

 The answer to both is _zero_.

 I love college football (especially in Texas) !!!

 -Chris.
From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Attn: People in Pitt
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:05:14 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <EeqX=2C00YV707fVZG@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott Gregory <wg2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>    Anyone else at the Pitt-Notre Dame game get as revolted and
>indignant as I did at the huge regional bias in reporting other college
>football scores on the board?  (e.g. Forget the UW-Cal game, that's way
>over in the West somewhere, but here's all the Ivy League scores...)
>


As a Cal alumn on the 50 yard line, I was *real* interested in those
Ivy league scores.  I was so interested I kept ignoring the Notre Dame
fan behind me who, after seeing my Cal hat, asked my opinion of the
Huskies, oh, say, 50 times or so.

Brian
(btw: I told him they were probably going to beat up on the Cardinull.
Couldn't pass up on that chance, could I?)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:36:12 GMT

chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) wrote:
}
}	Wisconsin, as it turned out was a replacement opponent.  The 
}team that was supposed to play Washington this year was....
}SURPRISE!  MIAMI of FLORIDA.  Looks like the 'Canes weenied out on this
}one.  

Why does shit like this come out every year?  Washington was not scheduled to
play Miami, was not scheduled to play Florida State, and wasn't even scheduled
to play Florida A&M.  Wisconsin was on the schedule for years;  Wisconsin 
even tried to get out of this game, from what I've heard.  Now if Washington
does not play Miami in 1994, THEN you can say someone bailed out.

(And it wasn't even one of our freshmen who came up with this.)

GT
From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:16:34 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct10.192903.33776@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Alright fans, let's hear your arguments!!!  Who in the world can deny that
>the Miami Hurricanes are the #1 team in the nation, without a doubt???
>Not only are they undefeated...
>Not only have they beat a number of ranked/tough opponents...
>But...
>
>In successive weeks, they have taken down #3 Flordia State, and now, they
>have travelled to #7 Penn State, and beat them on their own turf...
>
>Who has played tougher opposition???
>Who has beaten the toughest competition???
>
>THe Hurricanes, that's who...
>
>They can no longer be denied, Washington is good, but they have not had to
>face the trials that Miami has had too...
>
>Give them their due..
>
>They are #1....
>
>-- 
>David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
>VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
>uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
>davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"

Ok...someone PLEASE tell me how a teams schedule has ANYTHING to do with 
how good a team they are!!!!!!!  *sigh* It's hopeless I suppose.
WHO you play doesnt matter...HOW you play does!

-Eric Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Freshman QB's....
Keywords: any impact players...
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:18:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <ld3741INN18e@cronkite> andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>WHen was the last TRUE frosh to play QB at a major college & play well ?
>Colorado's Koy Detmer may qualify,  but not yet.  Zeier, QB from GA, 
>doesn't count,  he started school in the spring before his freshman year
>& played in spring practice.  That is like a redshirt. 
>
>Andy Knipp                    |

Well, it certainly wasn't Jeff George, who played like aragant shit
his freshman year at Purdue, we were glad to see him go.  Come
to think of it, he's still playing like aragant shit at Indy....



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From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Virginia: same old 'hoos
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:23:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: hubcap.1992Oct14.032326.26930
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad

Thomas Swann <ts3m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Now that we're not undefeated either, we can meet FSU on even terms.

Go 'Ginia.

>P.S. - Terry Kirby for Heisman

Unfortunately, Kirby will likely miss three (or more) weeks after suffering
a broken left shoulder-blade in Saturday's game with Clemson.  Not only
will this seriously hamper his Heisman chances, it will also leave the
Cavs without an important aspect of their offense.  

Say!  Can anyone find out how Heisman candidates have performed against 
Clemson?  I'm wondering about how Heisman trophy candidates do against 
Heisman's old team...only two come to mind but I'm sure there must have 
been more competing against the Tigers over the years.

Herschel Walker at Georgia
George Rogers at Carolina

Anybody else?
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Organization: American Math. Society
	<BvnrEq.Aqn@encore.com> <92279.183301RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
	<92280.000339KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <Bw2wtn.DuF@encore.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:44:43 GMT

In article <Bw2wtn.DuF@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:

      >Nothing beats DA CANES.

You are so right:

Missed field goal = nothing.  Therefore nothing beats "DA CANES".
It's so simple, I'm surprised nobody's thought of it before!

Alan "It's just my opinion, but I am always right." Harder
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU Falls to Wisconsin!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:41:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Oct7.130634.1@pa621a.inland.com> copus@pa621a.inland.com writes:
>
>        Really Randy? How many crowd noise penalties have been handed out
>        in Madison?

Well, I'm not Randy, but I can answer this one:  quite a few.  Most of them
were against Iowa during the Chuck Long audible days, when almost every
stadium in the Big 10 (well maybe not Northwestern) learned that making a
lot of noise sort of messed up Chuck's ability to audible at the line of
scrimmage.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:05:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <3M6-h5#@engin.umich.edu> chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct11.215831.28813@ncsu.edu>, sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA) writes:
>> 
>	I wouldn't be too sure about that.  PAC-10 defense has been 
>revamped after what the HUSKIES have done.  Now, pretty much everyone in
>PAC-10 plays the same style of defense as the Huskies.  Based on what
>Miami-Arizona game.  I will be surprised if Miami even can keep up with
>Stanford or CAL.   Don't be surprised if Miami does match up with Stanford
>in a Bowl game (Provided that Stanford loses to Washington).  

Ever noticed or hard that a couple of years ago, Don James realized that his
defense wasn't up to snuff, so he actually visited with Miami to figure he 
needed a defense like theirs...OOne that emphasized speed over size (though 
both are great).  As for Miami-Stanford, don't count on it.  Miami is likely
to go undefeated.  Why would they then take on a team with at least 2 losses??
And really not all that tough anyway.  As for Miami keeping up with someone
like Stanford or Cal, let's just say that Miami's offense and defense is 
TONS better than the Purdue o/d.  'Nuff said...

>
>	On the other hand, if Miami does play Washington at Seatlle 
>this season.  I am not going to say the Washington will definitely win, 
>but Miami will have a hard time hanging on to the ball.  Gino Torreta 
>could very possibly sustain injury.  Many mistakes will occur on the Miami 
>side due to the noise, low tempurature, and the rain. Now if the game was 
>at Miami then it would be a differnent story.  But don't be so arrogant 
>as to assume Miami will win games anywhere anytime.  In fact just ask 
>Dennis Erickson who is from the Seattle Area.  If such a game were to occur, 
>he would probably make his players practice in a enclosed stadium with 
>loud speakers blasted and a bunch of shower heads turned on.  

While I wouldn't go and say Miami would be able to beat Washington in Seattle,
I think it would be close.  Washington has been a team that has looked great
against the run, but looks to have holes in the secondary.  Miami's main 
offensive strength lies in their passing.  Miami's defense is extremely tough,
and this would be a very tough game.  On the same hand, Washington is very 
tough as well, and would probably give Miami a tough time in the Orange Bowl
as well.  Too bad we can't see the matchup...
-- 
David T. Meeks                    ||" We are jigsaw pieces, aligned on the 
VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: njan
Organization: American Math. Society
	<1992Oct6.030525.17094@colorado.edu>
	<1992Oct5.224932.8201@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
	<1992Oct6.061600.15127@colorado.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:44:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.061600.15127@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:

   >In article <1992Oct5.224932.8201@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
   >>
   >>Are you a psychology or pre-med (with an interest in psychiatry) major?

   >Now what I study is my business... anyways, when things are so obvious as this
   >one, you don't have to be an expert...

   >>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

   >Njan

Wow, Njan, you have your own thread.  I guess you've achieved true
stardom, now.  Even the Usenet Oracle didn't predict this.

-Alan

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Re: JP SEC GotW?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:13:59 GMT

owen@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>In article <1992Oct9.131158.10476@walter.cray.com>, kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin) writes:
>> 
>> Is the Auburn/Mississippi State game not going to be telivised at all?
>> This will really be a great matchup, and really should be on T.V.
>> 
>> BTW, does anyone know what time the AU/MSU kickoff will be?
>> 
>According to B'ham papers (2 or 3 days ago), available only on pay-per-view,
>and only in the state of Alabama.  Kickoff 6:00 p.m. CDT.

It is pay-per-view in MS also.  

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From: yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Lin(call me Axl) )
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictions for 10/10/92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:03:38 GMT

demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:

> MARSEE DIV I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMPUTER RANKINGS FOR WEEKEND ENDING 10/03/92
>                                                                             
>       (Power ratings in parenthesis - ties broken by defensive rating)      
>                                                                             
>  1. MICHIGAN       (937)   
>  2. KANSAS         (899)   
>  3. WASHINGTON     (896)   
>  4. CALIFORNIA     (885)   
>  5. NEBRASKA       (859)


Have you finished debugging your program yet?  There seems to be a few logic  
errors in it.
From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac10 is the best conference so far
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:39:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: well.yvonne.719012343
Distribution: usa
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

In <71117@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:

>yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee) wrote:
>}
>}Well, the ACC may have gone .500 against a single conference, but what was
>}the
>}conference's overall record in bowl play? 

>I'm not telling, it's too embarassing. ;->

>Oh, all right:

>East Carolina over NC State
>Oklahoma over Virginia
>Kal over Clem(p)son
>Georgia Tech over Stanford

>Can I include Florida State over Texas A&M?  No?  Well, it was worth a try.

>1991 was a poor bowl year for the ACC; however, the conference traditionally
>does well in bowls, second only to the PAC-10 in bowl winning percentage.
>(I don't think bowl winning percentage is a particularly accurate measure
>of conference strength, however.)

>}What was its record in overall regular season non-conference play?

>I don't have that number handy, but I'm sure it was excellent since
>most ACC teams play such a wimpy slate outside the league.

>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>   "Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades."
>                                 "And computer rating systems."
Well, there you have it.

3-1 beats 2-2.

Washington over Michigan
Kal over Clempsun
Georgia Tech over Stanford
UCLA over Illinois

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Iowa 23, Wisconsin 22
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:45:11 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Oct11.014336.1690@cnsvax.uwec.edu> kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>	Next week, Homecoming vs. Purdue.  Any predictions?
>			Purdue	   13
>			Wisconsin  27

On the surface, you might think that Wisconsin would overlook Purdue, as
they've sucked it up this year, so an upset could occur.  However, there
was a lot of big talk last year about Wisconsin beating Purdue, and they
went down to Ross-Ade and got their asses kicked by the Boilermakers.  I
don't think these guys forgot that.  They should be up for the game.  I
would almost agree with your prediction, but Purdue's passing offense has
been ineffective, and Wisconsin has been excellent at stopping the run.

            Purdue     9
	    Wisconsin  20
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: tu at Austin football
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:18:08 GMT
Reply-To: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1992Oct13.131207.4008@digi.lonestar.org>,
mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike) writes:
|>
|>sorry Jimbo, just stating the facts.  yeah, most of my a&m friends are
|>speechless after that one also.
|>for those that missed the original article, i stated that UT has a winning
|>record against all SWC teams and when a&m has a winning record against us
|>then we can talk.  obviously, jim was offended by the facts and mad at his
|>school (i.e. that junior college in "college" station) because they don't
|>have a winning record against us (i.e. that powerhouse in Austin). :):)
|>
|>mike
|>

Well, since it is very probable that I won't be around this place a
century from now, don't mind if I do go ahead and talk to you...

Mike, damn it, you know what, you are absolutely right, the steers do
have a winning record against everyone else in the SWC.  It's also a
fact that Texas Tech has a winning record against us (Fightin' Texas
Aggies), but it sure as hell didn't do them any good a couple of weeks
ago, now did it?  ;-)

As I remember, Blinn Junior College (the junior college at B-CS) does
not have a football team, but they do have a pretty decent track team in
Brenham...  ;-)

Beat the class of '90 hell outta Rice,

PEdro '90

Name:	  Pedro C. Luna	                      |   
E-mail:   ped@bnr.ca                          |   
Org:      Bell-Northern Research              |

"Pico de gallo, you oughta give it a try-o
 even if you're from Ohio, it'll get you by-o.
 Don't get it in your eye-o unless you want to cry-o
 so come on, don't be shy-o, eat some pico de gallo!"

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