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From: ehr@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl)
Subject: Re: GRAZ, AUSTRIA
Summary: train suggestions
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:53:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.012011.1855@msus1.msus.edu>, kennedy@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> I will be spending about a week in Graz, Austria, in early April.
> Having never been to Europe before, any hints would be much
> appreciated.


Austria, like most European countries, has excellent railroad
service.  Vienna is approximately 2.5 hours away by train, and
during much of the day, you can leave about every hour.  Many of
these are direct trains, but some will require a change of trains
at Bruck an der Mur.  (Precise connection, usually taking less than
10 minutes, normally simply requiring a walk to the other side of
a platform.)

The round-trip to Vienna is well worth while even if you don't do 
anything in Vienna since this is one of the more scenic train rides
in Europe.  The line over the Semmering pass was one of the first
mountain railroads in the world.

There's also a much longer rail route between Graz and Vienna
which also wanders through some nice scenery.  This is a single-
track non-electrified line on which most trains stop at many small
towns.  On this line the trip between Graz and Vienna takes about
4.5 hours.

I've done the loop from the Vienna end -- slower line out to Graz,
mainline back to Vienna as a daytrip from the Vienna end.

If you go on the main line via Bruck and Semmering, be sure to sit
on the right side of the train while going from Graz toward 
Vienna and on the left side going back.  These will provide the
best views into the valleys, since the tracks are on the side of
the mountains much of the way.

If you aren't interested in actually going into Vienna, then you
can go just part of the way -- to Wiener Neustadt, where the two
lines branch/join and return from there, saving some time.~

-- Ernest

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From: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger)
Subject: Wanted 1 way from BWI /Dulles -> Boston
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:51:35 GMT

Wanted 1 way ticket from BWI or Dulles to Boston for the
weekend of Jan 17th...


-- 

					David
From: James.Mitchell@CoE.drexel.edu (James Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Cruising In Puget Sound
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:43:29 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
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I'm hoping to cruise through the islands somewhere in the Washington or
Vancouver area next August. My goal is a slow, relaxed cruise for a week
in the equivalent of a houseboat.

Any general or specific suggestions would be most welcome.
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From: mcshane@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Michael McShane)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: wanted: r/t air tix from Philly or near to NEB, or near
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:11:11 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Arts and Sciences, UPENN

I need to buy a cheap r/t ticket going from somewhere on the East Coast,
as near to Philadelphia as possible, going to the Midwest, as near to
Lincoln, NE as possible. I would leave from Balt and go to KC, eg.
I am a UPenn graduate student, trying to get home
for Christmas. I would like to leave between the 18th and the 22nd of
December and return before the 11th of January. 

My telephone number is (215) 747-8050.
My e-mail address is mcshane@ccat.sas.upenn.edu

Thanks.
Michael.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:27:31 EST
From: Austin J. Jaffe <AJJ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Canaries in February?

Can one fly from the States to the Canaries directly without going through
Madrid?  Please reply.  austin
From: ralphc@vax2.concordia.ca (RALPH CARTER)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Negril, Jamaica
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:30:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Traveling to Negril, Jamaica after Christmas. I would like some info on
sightseeing, dining and entertainment.
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From: ehr@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Ernest H. Robl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Italian railways--is 1st class worth it?
Summary: maybe
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:16:43 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service

In article <lipqk5INN8c0@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
> I will be travelling to Italy in a few days and expect
> to ride one or more of these routes: Milan-Rome,
> Rome-Florence, Florence-Venice, Venice-Milan.
> 
> Is it worthwhile to buy a 1st class ticket on any
> of these?    What would I get that I would not get
> in 2nd class?
> 
> Also, are there any particularly interesting views from
> any of these trains?


A couple of points about European railroads in general (which would
include Italy, of course):

The basic ticket, whether first or second class, normally does not
entitle you to a seat.  You can reserve a seat in either first or
second class for a slight additional fee.  Normally, however, unless
you are traveling on a holiday, there's no problem finding available
seats on trains.  (I usually travel with a Eurail pass, and other
than on trains where reservations are compulsory, I've never
reserved a seat.)

Now, having seaid that, let me note that on many trains there's not
that much difference between first and second class seating.  The
seats may be a little bigger with a little more legroom -- but that's
about it.

In first class you are more likely to find room to spread out --
with adjoining seats being empty.  In first class, you are also 
less likely to encounter obnoxious fellow passengers.  On the
other hand, you're also less likely to encounter interesting people.

If peace and quiet are important, then first class may offer a
slight advantage.  If meeting local people and getting the flavor
of a country is more important, second class will do just fine.

Do note that there are some all-first-class trains on mainlines --
on which you don't have a choice.  When you get on some secondary
lines, trains will often offer only second class.

So, is the difference worth it?  Well, it depends....

-- Ernest

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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: You want rest in SUNNE KIRGHIZIA? - No problem!(sea this letter)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:25:25 GMT

From everything I've read, Kirghizia is indeed one of the most beautiful,
least spoiled, and still peaceful and stable, regions in the former Soviet
Central Asia.  Tourist facilities might be, shall we say, somewhat undeveloped,
but I would think that this would be a pretty good destination for the
adventurous traveler.  Anybody out there been there recently?

Wayne

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From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Subject: TRAVELLING WITH PETS (Canada to US)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: none
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:33:32 GMT

I am planning a trip down south from Toronto, Canada to Florida. What are the
regulations regarding border crossings with pets? Are certain shots required?
Do they need to be quarantined? I have one cat that I'd like to bring with me
on my trip.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

			-- Lynn --

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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Visiting US Cities (Was: Re: D.C.)
Date: 20 Dec 1992 06:04:03 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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A while ago, someone asked for the opening times of things to visit in
D.C.. A list is given at the end of this post.

Visitors to different US cities, may consider writing to the Visitors 
Center of the city they are going to visit in advance. They usually
reply by sending you: maps, up coming events in arts, theatres, concerts etc,
and of course, a long list of accommodation and advertisment.
I found this pretty useful. All it costs me is a post card and 19 cents mail.
For example, the office in D.C. sent me the booklet containing the
info I supply below.They also sent me a map, & a booklet showing the events that
will happen in the month I specified in the JFK Center. From the Atlanta
office, I receved, together with other info, some coupons that gave me
50% reduction in admission to a few places. The coupon book I received
from the Seattle gave one  of us free admission to see the omni-theater film
at the pier (the one about how St. Helen lost its cap!). 

It may be called something else (Tourist assocition ... etc.) but if you 
look up any tour book on the city you are going to visit, you can usually
find the address of the tourist center near the beginning of the book.

Opening Times:

Ansel Adams Collections M-F 10:00-17:00
Arlington National Cemetery Open Daily 8:00-17:00 (19:00 for Apr-Sep)
Capital Children's Mus. Open Daily 10-17, Closed National Hol.
Capitol U.S., daily 9-20, Tour 9-15:45, Closed Thanksgiving, Christmas, New year
Bureau of Engraving and Printing, M-F, 9:00-14:00, Closed fed. Hol. and
                                                   week of Christmas
FBI, M-F,9-14:00, closed weekends and fed. hols.
Marine Corps Memorial, 24 hours, free
Jefferson Memorial, daily, 24 hours, closed Christmas, Tours 8:00-midnight
Lib. of Congress, M-F, 8:30-21:30, Sa-Su, 8:30-18
Lincoln Memorial, daily, 24 hours, tours conducted upon request 8:00-midnight
National Archives, 10-17:30 (april-labour day, until 21:00), closed christmas
National Gallery of Art,M-Sa, 10-17, Su, 11-18
The National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, daily 7-19, tours, M-Sa,9-11
& 13-15, Su, 13:30-16.
Pentagon, Tours, last 1:15, M-F, 9:30-15:30 (note, no public restrooms!!)
Philips Collection: Sept-May, free concert Sunday at 5pm,
                    Gallery talks, 1st & 3rd Thrusday of month at 12:30pm
                    T-Sa, 10-17, Su, 14-19, Monday closed,
                    Tours, Wed, Sat at 14:00
                     Closed Thanksgiving, Christmas, July 4th & New Year.
Smithsonian, daily except Christmas day, 10-17:30
Union Station, M-Sa, 10-21:00, Su, 12-18:00, Closed, thank.,christmas,newyr,easter
Washington Mem, daily 9-17, closed Christmas

These times are taken out from the booklet: "Washington D.C., Attractions and
Tours", which I recently obtain from the Convention and Visitors Association.

                    
Hope this helps.
Dicky.

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From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss)
Subject: Apts. for rent offered in Moscow, was Re: Russia?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:23:57 GMT

I offer my own Moscow apartment as well as some of my friend's places for
rent. Both short- and long-term rental is possible. The rate starts at
$300/mo for the 1st month, 2nd month is half-priced and further price
reduction is possible for longer stays. 

Currently available: 

3 BR, 1.5 BA, 2 balconies, eat-in kitchen, NW part of the city in 8 mi from
the Kremlin

Lge. effcy w/eat-in kitchen and balcony, SW part, walk to metro, minutes
to downtown 

An advance arrangement is appreciated; I can also find another places if
asked well in advance.

Floor plans, location maps and Q&As may be emailed upon a request.
Some travel info and assistance may be provided as well.

E-mail to    pruss@helix.nih.gov

	D
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From: smithx@fraser.sfu.ca (David Smith)
Subject: Parking at Seattle airport
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:48:37 GMT

Can someone in the seattle area please send me information about
names and addresses of one or some cheap long term (2 weeks) parking
around the Seattle (SeaTac) Airport. Thanks

David Smith
smithx@sfu.ca
From: krubin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kenneth S. Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hawaii FAQ Archive
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:27:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

Is there a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) archive on Hawaii? I have seen
plenty of messages go by in the past, and I'm hoping that someone might have
collected these. If anyone does have a collection of messages concerning
Maui or Oahu I would be interested in getting a copy.  I will be going to
Hawaii for my honeymoon next June...

Thanks in advance,
--Kenny
krubin@parcplace.com
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From: Edward_Lunny@mindlink.bc.ca (Edward Lunny)
Subject: Spain and Portugal- info
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:22:15 GMT

I'll be travelling to Spain and Portugal on my own next April. I would
appreciate some info on the following subjects.
1. Is it better to purchase a Eurail in North America first or buy a Spain
\Portugal pass there?
2. I will spend some time in the major cities ie Lisbon, Madrid, and
barcelona so I would like some info on what to see etc.
3. I will be visiting the Algarve and the Costa Del Sol and would appreciate
some advice on where I could go to enjoy these areas but perhaps a little off
the beaten path.
4.  Has anyone got any info on the surrounding islands such as Canaries and
Majorca etc?
Any info would be appreciated.

--

 " Ted "
From: hsieh@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Pei-Lin Hsieh)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 00:33:16 GMT
Subject: Amtrak from Phoenix to Grand Canyon
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.travel


Amtrak provide a thruway bus from Phoenix to Grand Canyon. The timetable
tell me the westbound Sunset Ltd arrives Phoenix train station at 11:30 PM
( almost midnight! ) and the bus stop is in Sky Habor Airport, Terminal 2.
Do any one know how far between these two points, if it is safety in that
time (midnight) for a single Asia, and which kind of transportation I can
use.


Any advise and suggestion will be appreciated.
From: magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Magdi N Azer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Italian railways--is 1st class worth it?
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:11:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 I have had just the opposite experience on Italian trains.  My experiences
between Rome-Paris, Paris-Rome, and Rome-Florence have all been that the trains
run right on time.  I think a distinction should be made.  Trains in Southern
Italy tend to run late, but the trains in Northern Italy always run on time.

I`ve never 
taken second class, but my experience with people, sharing a cuchette with
my wife and total strangers has been very enjoyable and comfortable and relaxed.Italians, IMHO are some of the most friendly people in the world, and I always enjoy my trips with them.

magdi N. Azer
magdi@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: shoaf@helix.nih.gov (Susan E. Shoaf)
Subject: Re: Washington, D.C.
Organization: (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:37:22 GMT

In article <1g8mbhINN37v@CARDINAL.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan) writes:
>
>Just to add to the list:
>
>FBI Tour: There was a queue but they can take on 4 groups at one time.
>Ansel Adams Collection: It is just one floor. If you are really into photo-
>Chinatown: Looks pretty old to me. I tried one restaurant, it was okay.
>Philips Collection: My tour book says this is the best non-Smithsonian art
>Library of Congress: The Jefferson building was closed when I visited.(Nov.) 
>The largest Catholic Church in the U.S.: sorry, have forgotton its name.
I don't know the name either but it is at the Catholic University MetroStop

>Washington Post: I took a tour there. It was informative, but not the most
>NBA: I have gathered that the place where the Bullets play is well outside the
>Zoo: This belongs to the Smithsonian system. It may be difficult to find a    
>Georgetown: is interesting. But apparently, there is no subway station
>Capitol: I took a tour. They told me interesting things about the rotunda


 Also, the Uptown Odeon
(at Connecticut)  was very crowded
>when I visited. (They were showing Dracula.) Is the theatre really that good?
The Theater is not that well kept up but it is the only full size screen with
a balcony left in Metropolitan DC. that doesn't have waiters walking in front
of you to serve food. The Arlington and Bethesda Cinema Draft houses are
movie theaters turned into restaurants that serve while showing the movie.

>I found another Cineplex Odeon  at 4000 Wisconsin. They have THX and free
>parking. It is away (>15 mins.) from Georgetown thogh.

Susan

--
shoaf@clinpharm.niaaa.nih.gov    

National Institute on Alcohol   |Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat. 
   Abuse and Alcoholism         |Please put a penny in the old man's hat.
From: tracy@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info wanted on things to do in Cancun
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:15:19 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

I'm planning a trip to Cancun in February 15th. I'd appreciate any info
on things to do, places to visit, places to eat, etc.

Thanks

--
Jim Tracy   (tracy@evax.gdc.com)
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From: law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE)
Subject: Re: Where to go in SE Asia at New Year?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:50:44 GMT

NO. NO.

P.Tioman at this time of the year (even in Jan) is NOT a place to go to!
It's still the *monsoon* season and the seas are choppy and the waters
murky.  Not to mention that the rains are unrelenting!
 
Visited Tioman Oct 91 at beginning of monsoon - bad enough!

KenHwee Tan
National University of Singapore

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:37:31 -0500 
From: "Louise B. McFeaters" <lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Visa for Japan?

Do I need to get a visa for Japan, as a US citizen (or just show my
receipts for a given number of Japanese  appliances and cars). Thanks
for responding.

Louise
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From: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu (jim crouse)
Subject: Re: Negril, Jamaica
Reply-To: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu
Organization: AISS/Telecom University of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:04:17 GMT

  Xtabi on the cliffs. You can get away from the crowds at Ricks
  and they have some great diving/snorkeling there too.
  We took a fantastic horse back ride through the mountains
  and saw some interesting local areas that you could not see 
   by car, this was about $25.oo Us and lasted 3.5 hours.
  If you dive there are several good dive spots ( email if you
  want info). They also have a lighthouse down by Ricks.
  DA Bus for some great live reggae shows. Several market
  areas that you can find local arts and crafts. If you
  like coffee load up on the Blue Mountain, about 1/4 the
  price it goes for in the states.
  Be ready to get asked to buy ganja about every ten minutes
  when you are out of the hotel. A local we met said that
  when you get tired of being hasseled just say " I'm cool, mon "
   and they will stop, although we met some interesting people
  and had a nice talk with them after they quit trying to sell
  us things.


  Have a good time......email if you want more info.

  jim

  jim@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu
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From: CMDONA00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Christine Donahoe)
Subject: Re: Negril, Jamaica
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:57:05 GMT

In article <16DEC199215304863@vax2.concordia.ca>
ralphc@vax2.concordia.ca (RALPH CARTER) writes:
 
>Traveling to Negril, Jamaica after Christmas. I would like some info on
>sightseeing, dining and entertainment.
 
There's not a lot of sightseeing to do in the Negril area - that's what
makes it such a great place to go to relax.  A visit to Ys Falls is a
real treat though.  Our favorite place to eat is PeeWee's on the cliffs.
Pete's on the beach is fun, too.  He pulls his tables out on the beach at
night and serves things like curried goat and dolphin.  Tamboo Tavern
has great lobster pizza.
Rick's is pretty good but overpriced.  We prefer to go there to watch
the divers,  have a drink and watch the sunset.  One tip - don't
be in a hurry to get your food no matter where you eat!
 
Anybody else got favorites to add?  We're going back this spring and are
always looking for someplace different.
 
 
 
 
Christine Donahoe
University of Kentucky
332 Peterson Service Building
Lexington, KY  40506-0005
 
cmdona00@ukcc.uky.edu
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Italian railways--is 1st class worth it?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 08:06:47 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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Article 44174 of rec.travel:
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From: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Canada Travel Guide
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:41:57 GMT
Organization: Self employed, eh.
Reply-To: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
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aclark@53iss5.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Allen Clark) writes:

>Canada - A Travel Survival Kit
>4th Edition
>
>Published by Lonely Planet Publications
> [stuff deleted]
>didn't merit a word in the book?  There were four whole pages
>dedicated to my present city of Waterloo.  I found this amazing!  If
>I knew some overseas travellers were coming to Ontario I wouldn't
>exactly recommend Waterloo.  I've always thought it was a nice city to
>live in but why would anyone visit it?

If you haven't seen Mennonite/Amish-type culture then the Waterloo
area is a wonderful, quaint eye opener and tourist pleaser.  The
farmer's markets are wonderful too.  I certainly wouldn't recommend it
as a "final" destination, but if someone were visiting Toronto and
wanted a wonderful, countryish sidetrip I'd recommend Waterloo anyday!
(Especially over tourist traps like my old hometown of Barrie,
"gateway to the Huronias".  :-)  (Although Midland and it's indian
village and martyr's shrine are very interesting, north of Barrie.)

-- 
Diane Barlow Close
	close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com 
	I'm at lunch today.  :-)
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From: tao@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: ticket for sale, from boston to detroit
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:42:05 GMT

                         train ticket for sale

             cheap one-way train ticket from boston to detroit
 
                          $50.00 or best offer 

                      must be used before dec. 17

          ideal for college students from detroit, toledo, and buffalo
 
                       home for christmas by train


             if interested, please send e-mail to this account or

                    call (617) 776 - 7482 and leave message.
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