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From: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Subject: Re: New FIVB rules : official text
Reply-To: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:08:17 GMT

Not that this justifies the rule change either, but I remember one
call I saw on TV during a pre-Olympic USA match.  A USA player made a
massive hit that bounded off the block so high that it seemed to be
heading into the mezzanine.  The ball was clearly out, of course, but
as the USA hitter turned to watch it (probably curious whether it
WOULD make the mezzanine or not) his shoulder happened to brush the
net.  At the time the ball was probably 100 feet out of the court, but
since the ball hadn't actually hit anything yet, the call went against
the USA!

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (MICHAEL K ROGERS)
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:30:23 GMT

Gert-Jan van Lochem (lochem@fys.ruu.nl) wrote:
: In <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu> swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:
: 
: >2. A *digger* may touch the ball with any part of hir body from the knee
: >up.
: ? What is a DIGGER?
: ? What good is the part between the knees and the hips for a defence
: player (just as well stick to the new rule !) ?

I guess you didn't see Timmons' dig off his knee in the Olympics.
The refs didn't catch it.  The ball went over the net and landed
in.  A bizarre kill.

: >3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
: >played along the net.
: ? I have to referee a lot of amateur-matches. If those guys  hear you
: can jump into the net as long as you are spiking, there is going to be a
: lot of blood and twisted ankles around !
: (stupid rule, the beauty of volleyball is that you can not touch your
: opponent. I'm not in for full-contact volleyball !)

I believe you've misinterpreted this rule.  It says that touching the
net on a spike is illegal.

	-mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Subject: Palm-down hand set
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:58:49 GMT

Could somebody please post a description of how to (legally) do
this?  I've seen it done, but it was never done or demonstrated
well enough to pass muster in a game situation.  What should the
exact hand position be, and what "tips" do you have for this?

[Note: this is the set with the palms facing downwards; the
ball is usually at between chin and belt height, about 1.5
feet in front of the setter.]

It is very easy to have this kind of set turn into a "hold, then
pop" kind of thing; any ref is going to frown on this kind of a
set anyway, and it has to be immaculate to not get called.

Bill
From: tony2@mcl.ucsb.edu (Tony Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:24:21 GMT
  I've heard a lot of different interpretations of this rule and we've discussed
  it a bit in our Referee Assoc. meetings... generally, this rule is going to
  be a thorn


  I don't know if that helps anything but its my two cents worth...

  Tony
  UCSB Women's Volleyball Assistant Coach
  SoCal CIF Referee

Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: blee@halon.dfrf.nasa.gov (Bryson Lee)
Subject: Source for nets and standards?
Organization: NASA Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:51:20 GMT


        I'm not really familiar with the format of this group, so if this is 
posted to the wrong place, please be gentle (i.e. cat flames > /dev/null).  I'm
hoping someone out there can help with the difficulty I'm having.

The situtation is this:  I'm involved with a group of people who get together
twice a week to play pick-up volleyball in the Lancaster-Palmdale, CA area.
We all chip in to hire the gym of a local high school, which until now has been
allowing us to use their team's standards and nets.  Just recently, the school
principal has begun forcing us to use other equipment instead; the type with
a large weighted base and casters to allow the poles to be rolled around.

Needless to say, these things are not only a nightmare to set up (correct 
height and tension are impossible), but also a hazard to life and limb.  We've
looked into buying the type of standards that fit into sockets in the floor
(which this gym has), but to buy only one set of such equipment is about 
$2000 - $2500, it seems, and we can't afford it.

What we're looking for is anyone who might know of a place we could get one or
two sets of these type of standards used or damaged but repairable.  If you 
have any info along those lines, or maybe know another workaround, please 
reply to the address below.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Bryson Lee
blee@halon.dfrf.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Leeds - Stuggart ; UEFA decision !!
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:39:48 GMT

In <1992Oct7.124510.4527@ucc.su.OZ.AU> thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie) writes:
>	As for the point made by Steve Smith about having 4 foreigners in
>your squad, no it's not illegal. Otherwise AC Milan and a host of other clubs
>would be playing 3rd legs too :-).
o
Yes, it is illegal. The squad referred to is the squad of 16 each club 
picks for European matches, not squad in the sense of players on a club's
books. 

AC Milan have 5 or 6 foreign players on their books but can only
pick 3 foreigners for their squad of 16 for European matches.

This is the law Stuttgart broke, they picked 4 foreigners for their squad for 
the European Cup matchs against Leeds. You have to feel sorry for the 
Stuttgart players, it was an amazing mistake by the Stuttgart management.

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From: ay00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ALI YILDIRIM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Turkish Soccer League - 7th week
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:33:09 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


 Fenerbahce     - Aydinspor     : 1-1
 Galatasaray    - Bakirkoyspor  : 1-0
 Kocaelispor    - Altay         : 2-0
 Karsiyaka      - Sariyer       : 1-1
 Genclerbirligi - Konyaspor     : 1-0
 Kayserispor    - Gaziantepspor : 1-1
 Besiktas       - Ankaragucu    : 4-0
 Bursaspor      - Trabzonspor   : 0-0
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From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland - Poland
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:15:09 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

>Where is Hoolit(?spelling)?
>What with him?

I'm sure you me Gullit.
He retired from the National Squad a few weeks ago.
Shanna Tova.

Tsiel
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Subject: MARTIN VAZQUEZ -> REAL MADRID!!!
From: Juan Jose Mata <jmb3+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:44:39 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

espa#ol:

Si, aunque en Espa#a ya se sabe hace tres dias, no creo que el resto del
mundo se haya enterado. Rafael Martin Vazquez, ex jugador del Real
Madrid y Torino y que jugo en Marsella durante los compases iniciales de
esta temporada ha firmado por el Real Madrid C. de F. para lo que resta
de temporada y fue presentado publicamente como jugador madridista ayer
viernes 9.

Como muchos sabran Rafael dejo el Madrid por pretensiones economicas y
diferencias personales con el Presidente D. Ramon Mendoza. Me imagino
que ambas partes habran cedido un poco para llegar al acuerdo. Sin duda,
na gran noticia!!! (para los madridistas, entree los que me incluyo)

Adios!


english:

Yeap,  Real Madrid magically signed midfielder Martin Vazquez again
(remember he left the 'White House' -that's what they call it back in
Spain, really- for monetary reasons and personal diferences with the
president D. Ramon Mendoza). Rafael played the first few weeks of the
season with Marseille in France but was presented officially as a Real
Madrid player friday.

A great piece of news for Real Madrid fans (among which I include
myself, having personally met Rafa too I know he will be the same
top-class player he was when he left us).

  

		- J.J.


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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Non-English accents
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:04:25 GMT
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Organization: Vanderbilt University
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In <1992Oct15.215936.4418@news.vanderbilt.edu> LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu writes:

> My keyboard can generate accented letters.  What I am trying to discover is
> whether others will see them as such.
> 
> v   o-umlaut
> V   O-umlaut
> `   a-grave accent
> @   A-grave accent
> q   n-tilde
> x   o-slash
> (   o-four projections
> F   AE
> ?   inverted ?
> !   inverted !
> 
> Please e-mail me (English or French) to tell me if they appear properly on
> your screen.

Don't bother replying.  They don't even show up on mine after posting :(.  
(They are just periods.  But when the editor took it to write this followup, 
they became the correct characters again!)


Andy Lipscomb
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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Ireland's unblemished record?????
Date: 8 Oct 1992 22:49:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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 >...not considered a competitve match and should be contrasted with
 >the 4:1 Irish victory in Dublin in April.

Well, from Jackie Charlton's comments in the US press before the tournament,
he certainly considered it seriously, if his words mean anything.

As for the 4:1 loss in Dublin, the US was missing 4 of its European-based
internationals who were not released by their clubs.

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From: stuart@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: UEFA DISGRACE: RE: Leeds v Stuttgart
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:46:01 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <16064@umd5.umd.edu>, rf40@woodstock.umd.edu (Tottenham Hotspur FC)
writes:> In article <1992Oct13.124955.11960@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> craa27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk writes:
>>In article 9284@vax.oxford.ac.uk, stuart@vax.oxford.ac.uk () writes:
>>>
>>>Does anyone know the German for "cheat"?
>>>
>>>stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>Klinsmann ???
> 
> English name synonmous with cheat?
> 
> Try Batty.

I wouldn't actually class Batty as a cheat. He's hard, puts himself about alot,
but does not cheat. He doesn't try and get players deliberately sent off (a la
Hughes, Cypriot goalie etc.); doesn't punch the ball into the back of the net
(Maradonna, Joe Jordan); and doesn't take dives in the penalty at every
opportunity (could name a few but it would only start another row.). If hard 
play is cheating then there aren't many fair players around.

> 
> The topic is done, the game was played.

Well there speaks the voice of football. Could you please
supply us with another *topic* for us to discuss oh great one and please make
sure that you tell us when that one *is done* as well. Perhaps we could discuss
the great Tottenham Championship teams of the seventies and eighties. That
should dry things up no end.

I'm quite enjoying the discussion. It's moved on from the UEFA decision (found
out about the rules, european attitudes to the decision etc) to the
Rangers/Leeds encounter. Don't attempt to censor discussions. If you don't like
the subject heading then don't read the message. They aren't offensive or
abusive but about a serious footballing matter, which, I thought, is what this
list was about.

stuart
From: iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RE:Who Are Rangers?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 12:30:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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In article <19920ct6.142321.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, Ian Davis, University of 
Strathclyde etc, etc.... writes

>Well what do we have here? There has never been an open policy of apartheid
>in Glasgow, althought it was law in the states till the sixties.
>There is probabily more sectarian trouble in NY with the WASPS, Irish,Tallies
>etc than there ever was in Glasgow.

If you don't know that Rangers have or had a policy of apartheid then perhaps
you should indulge in some research before attempting to engage in discussion.

>So why dont you keep your nose out of this newsgroup if your not interested
>in football.

Boo Hoo. I hate to see a grown man (I assume this despite the spelling)
whine

>PS nice to see that your brave enought to sign your own name

Like the sarcasm though. Full marks as young students like to say.

Fred Flintstone (only joking Ian) 
the Jersey Jagsfan will not be silenced
-- 
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>Strathclyde University
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Holland - Poland
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:09:36 GMT

Here the expected Dutch lineup for the game against Poland tomorrow   
(= Wednesday) in Rotterdam: 

Menzo            (G)
R. Koeman        (D)
Rijkaard         (D)
Van Aerle        (D)
Numan            (M)
Jonk             (M)
Wouters          (M)
Winter/Vanenburg (M)
Bergkamp         (A)
Van Basten       (A) * Captain
Van Vossen       (A) 

And the expected result: 2-0

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From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Subject: Re: Whining from Leeds fans
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:37:08 GMT

stuart@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>I think, anyone with any common sense must know that Stuttgart advertantly
>cheated. I put a situation to you. If Leeds are losing in the 3rd match and
>put on an extra player (i.e. 12) can we then have another match for fielding an
>illegible player? No clearly not. Leeds would be thrown out and rightly so.

As it was declared before, Stuttgart broke the rules in that moment, when
they wrote 4 foreigners on the official players list of the game (an hour
before the game actually started).
So there is no way for Stuttgart to cheat advertantly (as they were quite
optimistic before the game with a "comfortable" 3-nothing lead).


>The error was by Stuttgart at Elland Road. That is where the default occurred.
>Equidistant mileage is neither here nor there. Leeds fans will have to either 
>fly there or get a cross-channel ferry, all to be sorted by friday. The German
>fans can get there by train.

This is fact for nearly any city on the continent. Where should they
play ? In Reykjavik ?

>Wouldn't or don't? They are Champions of the English League remember so they
>clearly do deserve to be there. Regardless of that it is a travesty of justice.
>I have yet to hear any professional footballer, manager, or commentator (either
>in England or elsewhere) defend the UEFA decision, apart from the Stuttgart
>coach who commented that he was pleased with the decision (not surprisingly
>really).

IMHO UEFA made the best possible jugdement.
Just think of what would have happened if Leeds were being judged into
the second round and then go and win the EC. I would suppose that
some guys go and claim that Leeds were no fair winners for not even being
able to win the first round on a sportive basis.

Bye
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Subject: Re: Welsh Team for match at Limassol
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:20:38 +0000







In <1992Oct14.164942.27377@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>blrj_ltd@uhura.cc.
rochester.edu
(MUSTT MALANG) writes:

>In <MNEWS.719054210.188@gate.demon.co.uk> I.T.Marsh@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk
>(I.T.Marsh) writes:
>> The Welsh team for the match away at Cyprus tonight is:
>>
>> Neville Southall       (Everton)
>> David Phillips         (Norwich)
>> Mark Bowen             (Norwich)
>> Symons                 (Portsmouth)
>> Eric Young             (Palace)
>> Clayton Blackmore      (Man Utd)
>> Barry Horne            (Everton)     (Capt)
>> Dean Saunders          (Aston Villa)
>> Ian Rush               (Liverpool)
>> Mark Hughes            (Man Utd)
>> Gary Speed             (Leeds Utd)
>>
>> Didn't note the subs.
> A few questions about this team...
>What happened to Kevin Ratcliffe?  Up until last year [according to my
>memory] he was in the team and still captain.  Then I heard that he was out
>of favor at Goodison Park and might be transferring soon.  Now, a few weeks
>ago I heard that Dave Watson, was named the official club captain.  And now
>Ratcliffe is no longer in the Welsh squad.  Does anyone have any news of
>him?  And who is Barry Horne?  I can see that he plays for Everton, which
>comes as a surprise to me, because I was under the impression that Howard
>Kendall had no upcoming youngsters and did not go about spending money in
>the transfer market during the summer. Someone help me get my info right..
>It feels terrible not to know the players in ones own team.
>
>MUSTT [sob sob sob] MALANG

I'm no Everton fan, but Kevin Ratcliffe is still turning out for Everton
but has disappeared from the international front. Whether it's because
he retired or because he is well into his 30's I couldn't tell you (I suspect
the latter). Everton bought Barry Horne from Southampton in the summer for
a fee somewhere in the region of #750,000.
I'm sure there must be an Everton fan out there who could give you the details.

Final score in last nights match was

Cyprus 0 Wales 1

Wales scored about 10 mins into the 2nd half through a header from
Mark Hughes. It was his first goal for Wales in 2 years. Wales then
dropped back and attempted to hold onto their 1-0 lead and in the end
were very lucky not to concede a goal.

The other match in their group was

Belgium 1 Rumania 0

Tom.
From: nieswand@elpp1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Switzerland results, round 14
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:19:28 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Switzerland, round 14 (qualification), October 7

LNA

FC Servette                1-1 FC Sion
 2.Assis 0-1 76.Neuville 1-1

FC Lugano                  1-1 Young Boys
 50.Subiat 1-0 87.Christensen 1-1
  Lugano lost Mauro Galvao already in the 6th minute (red card)

Xamax Neuchatel            1-0 FC Bulle
 45.Ramzy 1-0

Lausanne Sports            1-0 Chiasso
 27.Fink 1-0

FC Aarau                   0-1 Grasshopper Club
 54.Vega 0-1

FC Zuerich                 0-1 FC Sankt Gallen
 57.Hutardo 0-1
  St.Gallen lost Fischer already in the 15th minute (red card)
  


Table
 1.FC Servette      14   8  4  2  23-9  20
 2.Lausanne Sports  14   6  5  3  24-16 17
 3.FC Sion          14   5  7  2  20-15 17
 4.Young Boys       14   6  4  4  27-23 16
 5.Grasshopper Club 14   3  8  3  19-16 14
 6.FC Lugano        14   4  6  4  21-20 14
 7.FC Aarau         14   5  4  5  19-23 14
 8.Xamax Neuchatel  14   3  7  4  18-18 13
___________________________________________
 9.FC Sankt Gallen  14   3  7  4  12-15 13
10.FC Zuerich       14   3  5  6  11-17 11
11.Chiasso          14   3  4  7  10-15 10
12.FC Bulle         14   3  3  8  12-29  9



Topscorers:
 1.Anderson (Servette)  8
   Elber (GC)           8
   Tulio (Sion)         8
   Fink (LS)            8 (+1)
 5.Beguin (LS)          6
   Jakobsen (YB)        6
   


NLB, East
Baden                0-2 Winterthur
Chur                 4-1 Wettingen
Locarno              1-0 Bruettisellen
Luzern               2-1 Bellinzona
Schaffhausen         2-1 Kriens
Wil                  3-0 Emmenbruecke

Table
 1.Luzern          14   9  4  1  24-6  22
 2.Locarno         14   7  7  0  23-10 21
 3.Winterthur      14   8  4  2  26-11 20
 4.Schaffhausen    14   8  4  2  28-14 20
 5.Wil             14   5  5  4  20-14 15
 6.Kriens          14   5  5  4  23-18 15
__________________________________________
 7.Baden           14   4  5  5  15-19 13
 8.Chur            14   5  3  6  17-25 13
 9.Wettingen       14   4  2  8  13-23 10
10.Emmenbruecke    14   1  5  8  14-31  7
11.Bellinzona      14   0  6  8  20-31  6
12.Bruettisellen   14   2  2 10  18-39  6



NLB, West
Basel                3-0 Chenois
Buempliz             3-1 La Chaux-de-Fonds
Chatel-St-Denis      1-3 Etoile Carouge
Delemont             3-2 Yverdon
Fribourg             0-2 Grenchen
Urania               1-3 Old Boys Basel

Table
 1.Basel            14 10  3  1  33-7  23
 2.Yverdon          14  9  3  2  33-17 21
 3.Etoile Carouge   14  9  0  5  28-15 18
 4.Delemont         14  7  3  4  26-20 17
 5.Grenchen         14  7  2  5  18-14 16
 6.Chenois          14  7  2  5  22-21 16
__________________________________________
 7.Urania Geneve    14  5  2  7  24-27 12
 8.Old Boys Basel   14  3  6  5  18-23 12
 9.Chatel-St-Denis  14  2  6  6  21-29 10
10.Buempliz         14  3  3  8  18-33  9
11.Fribourg         14  2  3  9  15-31  7
12.La Chaux-de-Fonds14  2  3  9  14-33  7


Christoph Nieswand
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