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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Picard and Crusher
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:18:39 GMT

In article <22535@galaxy.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
> In article <1992Sep22.204704.9788@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00nderwin@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>> In article <22518@galaxy.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)  
> writes:
>> > It really hasn't been mentioned in the series, but was there any sort of
>> > relationship with Picard and Crusher before the Enterprise?  Any theories?
> 
>> 	Yes it has been mentioned.  
> 
> I am familiar with the episode in which they spoke of Picard helping out
> Crusher after Jack died.  But what I am refering to is was there any sort
> of romantic relationship between them before they served together on the
> Enterprise?  From the first season, I always had the impression that they,
> like Riker and Troi, had some sort of relationship, of what I don't know.
> 
> --
> "I drank what?" -- Socrates
> 
> judson@watserv.ucr.edu

I think the relationship they have is called "wishful thinking."  If you watch
_The Naked Now_ and _Qpid_ it is clear they have not slept together, but sorta
kinda wish they had.  Also, Beverly didn't look angry when Vash usurps her
spot at breakfast, she just seems incredibly curious.  I suspect the Picard/
Crusher relationship...or lack thereof, is why Beverly was written out of the
show for a season.  The writers backed themselves into a corner, and so instead
of resolving the attraction, they got rid of her, then ignored it.  They didn't
want a Moonlighting/Remington Steele fiasco on their hands.

Kellie M-S
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: keene@apache.dtcc.edu (Michael Keene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:TMP and ST:TNG music
Summary: James Horner Rules!
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:55:41 GMT
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College

In article <1992Sep29.152929.7845@ioe.ac.uk> teexijd@ioe.ac.uk (IAN DAVENPORT) writes:
>
>On a similar note, here, I notice that Cliff Eidelman seems to have succumbed
>to James Horner syndrome. The trailer I saw for 1492 sounded very similar
>to that for STVI, so I was not surprised to notice his name on the soundtrack
>credit. It might even have been the same piece of music.
>


Blasphemy!  

I think James Horner's scores for Star Trek II and III are just about the
finest works done for any film.  The music (IMHO) makes those movies what
they were!  Eidelman's score for Trek 6 was pretty good, but NOWHERE NEAR
Horner's achievement.  

I saw the same trailer (1492) and came to the same conclusion before I
even saw the credit.  Actually he's not just plagerizing his own work, but
Holst's too...

BTW:  Listen to Horner's excellent score for the movie "Sneakers". 
Nothing at all like any of his previous works.


-Mike Keene  keene@apache.dtcc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Troi's uniform.
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 10:48:41 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

> Eileen Simpson writes
> > Marina Sirtis was quoted in People Magazine as saying that she ate a lot of
> > doughnuts first season and stopped fitting in some of her costumes.
> 
> So get her a resizeable two-piece uniform like everyone else has.  The shirts
> are independantly expandable/contractable from the pants (like when the man w
> plays William Riker gained some weight).

The uniforms were a one piece "jumpsuit" type in the first season of TNG.
They went to a two-piece uniform because many of them men found it quite
uncomfortable when they sat down as it did tend to "ride up" in certain
areas.  I believe the uniform change came in season 2.


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Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
From: hosur@cantor.ee.umn.edu (Srinath Hosur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: What is this news group about?
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:40:19 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS

Hi!

Could somone explain what this news group is all about? What is
startrek? I was going through the list of news groups and came 
across this one. 

sri
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: favourite Trek ENDINGS
Date: 4 Oct 92 10:56:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.13

Shacha Ryan (and all other Netters, of course)!

For me, it is very difficult to decide, which endings I prefer. Certainly
=not= the one in Tribble-Trouble.

Dagger of the Mind - yes. I like that specific episode anyway, Kirk is so ...
different. >8-) And when Lenore comes to the bridge to ask for transport, you
can ask yourself, wo is using whom! <Grin.>

But for me, the episode does not end this suddenly, in my mind, there are
pictures running of what might happen later.

I liked the ending in Doomsday Machine (my favorite), Kirk somewhat falsifying
the log, protecting at least a bit privacy for the people out there.

Oyori - Sem [from Northern Germany]
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:10044 rec.arts.startrek.current:14535
From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:40:18 GMT
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu

Thanks to all for your opinions on these books. I am glad I asked, as I had
thought that Imzadi was strictly a "romance" kind of book. I saw and heard 
Peter David at a Star Trek convention last weekend (9/25-9/27) and he 
touched on the time travel theme.

Thanks again.

-- 
Steven Eric Schwartz            "It's not safe out here. It's wonderous, with
(schwarts@cps.msu.edu)           treasures to satiate desires both subtle and
125 East Wilson Hall-MSU         gross.  But it's not for the timid."
East Lansing, Michigan  48825                           - Q, "Q Who"
From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Re: Question about Barclay actor
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:13:28 GMT

In article <23133@optima.cs.arizona.edu> deutsch@cs.arizona.edu (Reverend Dave) writes:
#In article <MGATES.92Sep30133709@entiat.boeing.com> mgates@entiat.boeing.com (Michael Gates) writes:
#>Is the actor who plays Barclay the same guy who played the crazy guy 
#>from the A-Team?
#
#
#Yes- his name is Dwight Schultz and he played Murdock on the A-Team.
#Incidently, I thought he was much better on the A-Team; hillarious!

Dwight also did a reasonable job in "Fatman and Little Boy" a couple
of years ago.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Subject: Star Trek bloopers in the U.K.
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: World
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:47:01 GMT

Does anyone know of a Star Trek Blooper video tape on the PAL format that is 
in the U.K.?

I saw some really great bloopers on the Star Trek 25th Anniversary Special 
and would like to see some others.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:9996 rec.arts.startrek.current:14416
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 14:33:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <67054@cup.portal.com> <SMILEY.92Oct2112732@akasha.eng.hou.compaq.com>

I generally refrain from smiley faces and such.  Simply a stylistic 
habit.  Nor do I write (ha ha) in letters.  It just seems like a crutch to 
me.  I'd much rather just say what I want to say, and if someone thinks
I'm answering with one attitude when I mean quite another, then they can
feel free to say so and I'll be happy to clarify it.

And I'm sorry--if someone says, "Is Probe any good?" and the reply is,
"Star Trek novels suck," that is not a reply to the question.  That is a
sweeping generalization.  If someone asks about *a specific work*, 
then the only way to give an informed opinion is to have *read* the
specific work.  

Or to put it another way:  If you see a STTNG episode you really liked,
and you say to someone, "What did you think of that episode," and they
replied, "I don't watch Star Trek because it sucks; therefore the
episode wasn't worth watching." That does not seem a reasonable or 
informed opinion to me.

Now...if the original question about the novels had been, "What do you 
guys think of Trek novels in general," and the response had been,
from anyone, "I think they suck in general," then that's a reasonable
answer...presuming you've read a decent enough quantity to form an
informed opinion.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Re: Prime Directive an empty concept
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:04:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.150800.43338@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Does anyone feel as I do that the Prime Directive is a completely
>empty concept?  It seems to be regularly violated, to the point where
>I can't see any difference between actions carried out under the PD
>and hypothetical actions that would be carried out without it.
>
	Well, this is the way I look at it - the *real* prime directive:
"No intervention in alien cultures, unless of course it makes for an 
interesting story".  The P.D. is only "used" so it can be broken.  How
many countless situations would be rendered completely boring if they were
able to do this.  The P.D. makes for the "Well, we should do it this way,
but I think we can justify doing it our way for it is less boring"

JeffB


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Quotes
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:09:05 GMT

rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE) writes:

[much deleted]

>Whats makes this a favorite quote?

>Why didn't you just include the transcript of the whole show?

>Totally exciting!
>Does anyone see my point?
>Talk about wasted bandwidth!

   Note: This is *not* a flame.  But if you have enough time to
read through a listing of quotes and then whine about the ones
which were included that you didn't particularly care for, then
you should make your *own* list of quotes/stats/etc...
   This is not a condemnation of your viewpoint, which is certainly
valid, but rather a defense of the poster of the quotes listing.
People who compile such lists do so in their free time, because
they enjoy it, and because quite a few other people find such lists
interesting and useful.
   I'll step down off my soap-box now; I just felt that had to
be said.  I'd like to add my appreciation to Mr. Koga.  I quite
enjoy his quotes files...

RC Carman

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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Picard + Kirk (Was re: Picard vs Kirk's style
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:19:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: giraffe.g92n3258.19.717531569
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa


Yes, it is true that Picard and his Enterprise seldom seem to go "Where No 
One has Gone Before", my one major gripe with the show.  Kirk does come into 
contact with cultures which are far more diverse etc.  I don't disagree with 
that.  But this is no excuse for giving the people of Vaal "the apple", for 
example, or supplying arms to the tribe in "A Private Little War", instead 
of going after the real baddies, the Klingons.

It's easy to moralise when standing back and looking at it in perspective; 
Heaven knows what I'd do if I knew this robot serpent-head was destroying my 
ship and it's stupid to assume that Kirk always has to do what we consider 
right (Spock, for instance, disagreed with Kirk and believed similiarily to 
me).

But when we watch episodes like "The Devil in the Dark", we see that Kirk 
can do things in an understanding un-gunboat way (granted, at the beginning 
of the episode this wasn't the case).

In certain circumstances, I can see Kirk's policies as suiting the 
occassion, as in "A Taste of Armageddon", one of my fave. episodes.  But I 
don't believe Kirk's actions can be seen as "diplomatic" in that episode, as 
was stated in the letter I was replying to.  Understandable, yes, but most 
definitely not diplomatic.

Ryan.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: Sexism and Plunging Necklines
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:01:41 GMT

Mary Ellen Foster writes
> The reason she doesn't wear a Starfleet uniform is that, when the show first
> started, she was too heavy and the uniform (those old one-piece ones) just
> did not work. The people on the show invented a new wardrobe just for her.

I have a hard time believing this as I've never seen Marina Sirtis (of all the  
people on the show) look in any way 'heavy'.  The man who plays William Riker  
(his name escapes me at the moment) looked heavy for a little while so they  
gave him a larger shirt; no problem.

But *even if* that is true (about her being too heavy for the one piece  
uniforms), why not give her a two-piece uniforms like the rest of the crew has?   
I *still* haven't heard a good reason for this.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail ok
From: ecunha@sumax.seattleu.edu (Erik Cunha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek mailing list?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:02:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <30SEP199209584265@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>
 dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.141913.28655@news.media.mit.edu>, lawrence@media.mit.edu
 (Brian L. Lawrence) writes...
>>Can anyone please let me know if there is a mailing list for trekkies?
>>Brian Lawrence
>>brian@soliton.creol.ucf.edu
>>lawrence@media.mit.edu

>	Actuall, if there is a mailing list, can you go ahead and
>post the address?
>J. David Dickens ... dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 

There are three LISTSERV lists for Star Trek:

STREK-L     The general purpose list.
STREK-D     A list for long postings (I think.  I don't have first hand
            experience with this one)
STRFLEET    A list for memebers of the Starfleet fan organization.

To subscribe to any of these, mail this message,

 SUB [name of list] [your *real* name]

to

 LISTSERV@PCCVM.BITNET


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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: re Picard + Kirk -- Vaal + Private little war
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:16:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: giraffe.g92n3258.25.717790593
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

In "The Apple", Kirk judged them to be stagnating, yes.  But who was he to 
make this judgement?  Who is to say that Vaal was placed there by some other 
alien race (though in the DC comic, they say it was Sargon's people).  It 
could well be that there had been a more advanced civilisation that built it 
similiar to the civilisation which built Landru in "Return of the Archons".  
They then degenerated to what Kirk etc. found.  We don't know this for sure, 
but it is possible.  Besides, they were happy.  Kirk took away all their 
values and planted his own on them.   Our society also has restrictions on 
us.  To them it could be have been as if someone came and did away with the 
capitalistic system on Earth because so many become impoverished because of 
it, and planted communism.  You may say this isn't a correct analogy, as 
communism isn't perfect.  Well, neither was Kirk's way - they died, they had 
to work to survive.  If you say DC's version, it resulted in "the Dark Ages" 
on the planet.  I agree with this idea.  The comic ended off with the 
rebirth of Vaal and Kirk being kicked out of "Eden" for good.

As for "A PRivate Little War", Kirk could have moved in on the baddies - the 
Klingons - as they were upsetting the balance on the planet and breaking the 
Prime Directive.  They had that right, and that way there could have been no 
escalation of weapons on the planet Numero.

Ryan.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: noel@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: A Silly Top 10 List
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:05:12 GMT

	Since we are all probably tired of reading post after post about 
"Time's Arrow II" this Top 10 list we go on a different track.  So from the 
home office in Arbutus Maryland, we bring you:

TOP 10 *LEAST* USED LINES BEGINNING WITH "KLINGONS DO NOT..."

10.  Wear white socks with a business suit

9.  Serve red wine with fish

8.  Serve white wine with gach

7.  invest all their money in high-yield CDs and municipal bonds

6.  steal towels from hotels--they acquire extra drying materials

5.  drive Volvos

4.  Grade a comic-book "mint" when it is only in "very good" condition

3.  do not "do" lunch

2.  argue about existential poetry in beatnik dives over expresso at 2 AM

and the number one least used line...

1.  Klingons do NOT read silly top 10 lists! 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: TREK RATE results (TAS)
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Posted-Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 00: 01:56 -0500
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:01:56 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 00: 01:13 CDT

This is one of seven periodic postings for ratings of Star Trek in all flavors:

TREK RATE ballot           - for sending in your votes!
TREK RATE results (TAS)    - what the USENET community thought of TAS eps
TREK RATE results (DS9)    - what the USENET community thought of DS9 eps
TREK RATE results (BOOKS)  - what the USENET community thought of the novels
TREK RATE results (MOVIES) - what the USENET community thought of the movies
TREK RATE results (TNG)    - what the USENET community thought of TNG eps
TREK RATE results (TOS)    - what the USENET community thought of TOS eps
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The first is the ballot for sending in your votes (see it for details).
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The last five postings contain the average rating for  each episode, movie,
book, etc.  according to the Usenet population.  It is  useful for deciding
which books to read (weed out the one that NO one enjoyed), what episode of
TNG people thought was the best (or worst), etc.

In the list below, RATE is the average rating on a scale of 0 to  1, NUM is
the number of votes  in the  database, and  EPISODE NAME  is (surprise) the
episode name with type  (A=TAS B=book D=DS9 M=movie N=TNG O=TOS)  in paren-
thesis.



 RATE NUM                     EPISODE NAME
----- --- ------------------------------------------------------------
0.273  12 BEM (A) 
0.403  15 INFINITE VULCAN, THE (A) 
0.433  13 HOW SHARPER THAN A SERPENT'S TOOTH (A) 
0.435  10 PIRATES OF ORION, THE (A) 
0.446  15 LORELEI SIGNAL, THE (A) 
0.458  12 AMBERGRIS ELEMENT, THE (A) 
0.461  10 BEYOND THE FARTHEST STAR (A) 
0.477  11 JIHAD (A) 
0.487   8 ALBATROS (A) 
0.493  13 PRACTICAL JOKER (A) 
0.500  11 TERRATIN INCIDENT, THE (A) 
0.502  13 MAGICKS OF MEGAS-TU, THE (A) 
0.506   9 SURVIVOR, THE (A) 
0.508  13 EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, THE (A) 
0.540  10 ONE OF OUR PLANETS IS MISSING (A) 
0.558  12 COUNTER CLOCK INCIDENT, THE (A) 
0.570  10 ONCE UPON A PLANET (A) 
0.575  14 MUDD'S PASSION (A) 
0.612  13 MORE TRIBBLES, MORE TROUBLES (A) 
0.652  15 TIME TRAP (A) 
0.720  15 SLAVER WEAPON (A) 
0.727  13 YESTERYEAR (A)
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:TNG Guide
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:08:03
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: rrj2755@tamsun.tamu.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 07:58:29 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Sep 92 07:58:29 GMT, rrj2755@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rob Jones) said:

rrj2755> Sorry to bother ya'll but could someone please direct me to
rrj2755> an ftp site that has the ST:TNG Guide?  I sure would
rrj2755> appreciate it :)

ftp.coe.montana.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD)
Subject: FASA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:42:00 GMT

	Yeah, okay. I know the general opinion of ST:RPG around here, 
and mostly I agree (but as a game system, I like how it was 
handled), but I have a question. It's partially a FAQ, but only 
partially. I was browsing through FASA's latest catalog, and
noticed that they had pulled EVERY ST:RPG product. The FAQ list
makes mention the OFFICER'S MANUAL fiasco, and mentions that FASA
is going to re-release it to meet approval, but makes no mention
of FASA pulling the entire system. Anyone have any info on this?

Thanks...
J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: DSN: Need Set Names for Script
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:27:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.045002.4200@netcom.com> dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins) writes:
>I'm trying to shape up a script for Deep Space Nine for submission.
>I'd like to do as professional a job as possible, so I'd like to find
>out what the names are for the various parts of the set.  I assume it
>won't be a Bridge - what would they call it?  Is there still a Sick
>Bay?

Try waiting until the show premieres. Paramount has stated they
*won't* be accepting fan scripts for the first six months (precisely
for this reason).


>
>Also, has there been any word about whether the Borg have been changed
>by Hugh?  Or is it ok to have a Borg cube acting like our familiar
>Borgs?  (I would invent a new race, but for this plot it has to be the
>Borg, alas.)

Nor do they want "sequel" scripts from new submitters. Check out
the TNG script submission guidelines; the DS9 guidelines will probably
look similar.

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