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From: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Another watch question
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:22:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge)
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In a previous article, chipc@dsinet (Chip Colby) says:

>Dale Wedge (aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
>: 
>: I've got a pocket watch from (20's or 30's, I think).  It is a
>: Waltham with a white porcelain background, minute and hour hand,
>: plus a second hand located in the bottom center of the watch.
>: 
>: The wind up mechanism is at the top with a key chain holder that
>: goes over the wind mechanism.  The back is engraved with the
>: initials of the guy that owned it.  It has no date, runs well,
>: etc.
>: 
>: Just wondering
>
>	Pretty sketchy...Kind of hard to tell you much.  You will have
>	to do two things for me to provide you more information:
>
>	1.	Open up the watch and look for a model name and a
>		marking specifying the number of jewels in the watch.
>		If you give me the serial #, I can tell you when it 
>		was made.  It would also be real useful to know any 
>		markings on the case, such as who made it and what 
>		it is made of.
>
>	2.	Measure the watch movement so that it's size can be 
>		determined.
>
>	With this information, I can tell you something more than
>	"You have a Waltham watch".
>
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>

Okay I opened up the watch and on the gold portion of the back
of the watch it states, Illinois Watch Case Co.  Elgin U.S.A.,
Guaranteed - Commander - 25 Years.  The number engraved on that
portion is 3937403.

On the watch mechanism itself, it says 17 jewels, and has a
number stamped on it as follows - 20060489.

This is what I could find.

Thanks,


Dale B. Wedge
From: d_hanes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Hanes)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 16:09:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Seeking EDISON Phonograph record
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques

> I, too, am having a bit of an "old record" problem, and wonder if anyone can
> help.  I have a Victrola, manufactured in 1904, and while I have lots of
> needles (they look almost like headless nails, really) none seem to be sharp,
> or sharp enough for good sound.  I realize that the quality of sound isn't
> going to be a Sony standard output, but . . .
> 
> Does anyone know a method for sharpening them?  By the way, this is for
> 78rpm records, not cylinders.
> ... 
> Thanks for the help.
Don't bother with sharpening them, they are still available and only
cost about 2 cents apiece.  I don't have an address handy, but I'll
try and find one later.  I know that Antique Electronic Supply in Arizona
sells them, but they don't have the best price.

Dave
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 10:46:41 MST
From: <IBUDXL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Seeking EDISON Phonograph record
 <93019.120514IBUDXL@ASUACAD.BITNET> <1993Jan20.164717.13496@oct17.dfe.dec.com>

Thanks to all who responded with my request for info on my Victrola.  Had no
idea that it was such a popular subject or that anyone would know anything
about it, but am gratful for the help.  Have found a place locally
 who sells the needles - so incredibly cheap, too, that sharpening as suggested
 would be silly.  Its nice to know that this group is so friendly - thanks
again.
From: ns@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Looking for good book on Aladdin Oil Lamps
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:21:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <C160AK.M85@icon.rose.hp.com> eric@terrapin.rose.hp.com writes:
> As the title says....I am looking for a book on Aladdin Oil Lamps. Let me 
> know the name and I will contact my local book store and see if they can 
> order one. I know there is one out on Aladdin Electric Lamps but, I am
> looking for an Oil Lamp version...
> Thanks, Eric...

From my Dad:

Try the book "Aladdin -- The Magic Name in Lamps"
by J.W. Cowiter.

Checked it out at library in Lafayette.  An excellent
book.  Not only shows all the styles of oil lamps but
also shows breakdown of burners and proper way to light
and maintain.

Hope this helps!
======================================================

Sorry if this is repeated, we have had trouble here.
From: tkeough@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Silver-plated Bookends
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:14:40 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada


	I have recently acquired a set of silver plated bookends. They
are in the shape of ducks, Mallards I think, landing on a wave crest. I 
believe that they are silver plate but I do not know the date of 
manufacture. I was told by the person who I bought them from they are from 
the 1920's. It would be pretty much impossible to determine if this is 
valid from the bookends alone, however, there is a makers mark on the rear 
of each bookend. It looks like this <BP> forming a diamond shape around the 
initials. I have attempted to find the maker from this and came up with 
Benjamin Pierpont. This BP however lived in Boston in the early 1870's and 
worked primarily in pure silver not plate. Anyone with any ideas?

Trevor
From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Occupied Japan dinnerware
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:45:44 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <1993Jan25.075246.46719@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I want to preface the following information by saying that the
>value of Occupied Japan lies in the mark, so you have to check
>to see that EVERY piece of the set is so marked. 

Yes, every piece is identically marked.

>According to Emyl Jenkins'
>_Appraisal Book_, there are three classes of china:

I thumbed through one of Jenkins' books (may have been that one)
looking for info on Occupied Japan, but what I found was a rather
discouraging note that said, "There is much of this china around and
most of it is of inferior quality."  That may be so, but we can't all
collect Flora Danica! :-)

The few guides on Occupied Japan ware I was able to find didn't have
much on dinnerware.  I know there are other books out there (I've seen
references to them) so I will keep looking.  I seem to recall there was
a discussion in this group some months back about Occupied Japan.  I
was hoping someone had saved the thread.

Thanks for the valuation guide, Nancy; I hadn't saved it on any of its
previous incarnations.

I'm still wondering if I would be better off keeping this set and trying
to fill in the missing pieces (8 teacups and serving pieces), or selling
it off piece by piece, or selling it as a set...

Charleen
From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Do we need a FAQ?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:54:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu () says:

>I've been posting this China valuation info so often lately that I
>was wondering is we need a "FAQ:china" or something?  No sense
>re-posting it all the time.  What does the readership think?

I think that's a good idea, Nancy. I'd love to see the whole list
in one place (Classes I thru III), and it would save you having to
repost this so often.
-- 
________________________________________________________________________
* Linda Zinn                    When you point a finger at someone,    *
* au500@cleveland.freenet.edu   you're pointing three back at yourself *
* ******Wanted: Books by E.D.E.N. Southworth; cattail dinnerware****** *
From: we16+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: JEEP peddle car
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:32:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfLdTIy00iUxA0tpY3
Organization: VP for Enrollment, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I am looking for a peddle car . . . a JEEP peddle car.  Have you seen
one . . . Where?  Do you know where to find one . . . where?  Do you
have one?

Sned mail to WE16+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: roe@crosfield.co.uk (malcolm roe)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Corkscrews.
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:02:35 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

I am posting this on behalf of my stepson, Alric Bennett.

Among other things he deals in antique corkscrews.  He usually
has at least 100 in stock of varying ages and patents.  If you
are a collector interested in buying (or selling) contact me
by e-mail giving any particular interests and I will put you in
touch with him.

-- 
Malcolm Roe                            Phone  :  +44 442 230000 ext 4104
Crosfield Electronics Ltd              Fax    :  +44 442 232301
Hemel Hempstead, Herts. HP2 7RH, UK    E-mail :  roe@crosfield.co.uk 
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From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: Re: Seeking EDISON Phonograph record
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:11:24 GMT


In a way I am amazed anyone would want to play antique 
records on an old record player unless they wanted to 
wear out the records.  As far as I know, if one has a
professional turntable, 25 mil used to be the needle size
for old style records.  There is a process used by broadcasters
which restores the sound of the ancient recordings as much as
possible recently written up in RADIO WORLD.  Part of the
restoration has to do with using a needle which is supposed
to play on parts of the record never before exposed to a needle.

Ron
AK0N
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 16:19:56 EST
From: Robert Roxby <RROXBY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Bookcases wanted

I am looking for good bookcases.  They need not be authentic antiques,
just of good quality and solid wood.  Please reply by E-mail.
From: jeffa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Alley)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 20:17:05 GMT
Subject: OLD Disney Sheet music 4 sale
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques


For sale : 3 pieces of sheet music to Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs.
The sheet music is in excellent condition : complete, minor wear.
One piece has a light crease down the middle.
The music is from 1937 or 1938 and is marked Walt Disney Enterprises.
The covers are very colorful picturing Snow & the 7.

Heigh Ho
Someday My Prince Will come
With a Smile and a Song

$10.00 each or $25.00 for all 3.

Postage will be $1.00 each.

I collect older Disney Ceramics if you have any for sale!
Jeff


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                             Jeff Alley
                         j_alley@fc.hp.com
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From: d_hanes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Hanes)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:18:57 GMT
Subject: Victrola question
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques

I have a victrola which was given to me as a gift.  On the metal plate
inside it has "VV 4-3".  Does anyone know when this machine was manufactured,
or how much it might be worth?

Thanks!
Dave
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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Occupied Japan dinnerware
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:04:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.022357.10874@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>I recently acquired the remains of a china service for 12.  The
>mark on the back of each piece reads:
>
>	Fyoto China
>           Japan
>   Made in Occupied Japan
>
>(I'm not sure about the F in Fyoto; seems to me it should be "Kyoto",
> but it looks like an F to me, sort of!)
>
>It's a very nice blue, gold and floral pattern, and I may keep it
>for myself, but I was wondering:  what, if anything, is this worth?
>
>I've tried searching out price guides, but haven't had much luck.
>
>Here's what pieces I have:
>
>12 dinner plates
>12 salad plates
>12 bread/butter plates
>12 soup bowls
> 6 fruit bowls (small)
> 4 teacups (2 with chips)
>12 saucers
>Sugar (with lid)
>Creamer
>
>A local antique dealer offered to take them on consignment, but I'd
>like to have more info to go on before I do anything.
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Charleen
>

since Japan was Occupied for only a few years following WWII, the china
should be worth something, if for no other reason, because it was made
in 'Occupied Japan'


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From: jsmith@owlnet.rice.edu (James Pope Smith)
Subject: WANTED: Antiques and collectibles
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:21:30 GMT

The subject line says it all.  I am looking for space and aviation related
items from the Wright Bros. to the Apollo and Skylab missions.  Also, I am
looking for older non-sports cards (1940's-1960's).  My wife collects political
memorabilia, such as buttons, glasswork, papers, etc.  She has a lot of stuff
since the 50's, so she is really looking for some of the older stuff.  She
just put a down payment on a McKinley Gold Bug -- really nice piece, and she
found a Garfield commemorative funeral medal - with the original ribbon!  We
love this old stuff.  If you have anything you want to sell or trade, gives
us a holler through email.  My email address is jsmith@owlnet.rice.edu
The list above is by no means complete; we collect Americana.  Looking to
build up our autograph collection.

James Smith, Rice University
jsmith@owlnet.rice.edu
From: tkeough@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Looking for Victorian Tub Feet!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:54:37 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada


	I have recently purchased a cast iron Victorian bath tub. In the 
process of moving it to a storage shed for some restoration I broke three 
bones in my foobut I digress. The tub itself is in excellent condition fo
all it requires is some paint on the outside for cosmetics and some feet.
Here is the crux of the problem the feet. I am considering remodelling my 
bathroom this summer and I would like to install the tub. At present I 
would have to construct a box for the tub to sit on, however, I would 
really love to support the tub on a set of feet to complete the look. If 
anyone has any of these bath tub feet for sale or knows of someone who may 
be interested I would appreciate a response.
						Thanks,
						T. Keough
		E-MAI: tkeough@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: jeffa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Alley)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:32:18 GMT
Subject: 1946 Varga Calendar info wanted
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques


I was in an antique store about 30 miles from where I live and I found
an old (1946) Varga pinup girl calendar. It was in near mint condition,
had all of the months, no writing, etc... but a couple of the pages
were starting to come off of the plastic binder that held them all
together.  The calendar was tasteful and I was considering getting it
but didn't because of the $75.00 price tag.  Would it be possible for
me to find one a lot cheaper, or is the 75.00 price pretty reasonable?

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                             Jeff Alley
                         j_alley@fc.hp.com
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From: mulcihy@sherlock.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Platimum Jewelry markings
Organization: MDSSC
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:11:02 GMT

The only marking I have seen on platinum jewelry is PLAT. I would have the
piece tested to be sure of its metal type and content.

David Mulcihy
mulcihy@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
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From: birkelan@atelm.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Subject: Re: Seek Atwater Kent Radio Info.
Reply-To: birkelan@atelm.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:17:19 GMT

Antique Electronics Supply
Tempe, AZ

(602) 820-5411
From: pgleason@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Pat Gleason)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: wanted: Trundle and pulleys for Singer Sewing Machine
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:49:19 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

I recently purchased a 1913 Singer sewing machine at a local antique
store.  However, the foot pedal (trundle) and pulleys,belts, etc. had
been removed sometime years ago when the machine was converted to
electric.  Can anybody suggest how/where one would locate these parts?
Thanks.
From: kathryn@Apple.COM (Kathryn Vandiver)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Seeking EDISON Phonograph record
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:18:23 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1993Jan25.181124.20736@news.unomaha.edu> rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:
>
>In a way I am amazed anyone would want to play antique 
>records on an old record player unless they wanted to 
>wear out the records.  As far as I know, if one has a

We play ours without guilt. Basically, Edison had cornered the
market on Diamond Disc recordings and because he was old and 
mostly deaf, most of the recorded music isn't that great.  We 
have about 70 Diamond Discs. 

As far as the cylinders, again I have about 150 or so, most are in 
the garage in a box getting dusty, but I play about a handful on
a regular basis.  Of my 78's for the Victor, my favorites get played a 
lot. But it's part of the novelty of having a player. The player is 
the collector piece, the music tends to be an accessory item. 

As far as my notion for "playing a lot" - this tends to be at the 
most a few times a month while showing friends and family, or 
torturing ourselves during local power outages with nothing else
to do.....   :-) 

have fun!
kathryn. 
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From: dmd2@Ra.MsState.Edu (David Dumas)
Subject: Where are the Western Electrics?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:43:38 GMT

Can anyone tell me a good place to get the old, heavy, real bell, Western
Electric telephones?  I'm interested in all styles (desk, Trimline, Princess,
etc.).

I know about the Telephone Outlet in Republic, Pennsylvania and have done
business with them.  Their phones are heavy, with the real bell, and made
and refurbished in the U.S.  However, I'm looking for a place that not only
sells phones with Western Electric insides, but also Western Electric out-
sides.  I am looking for the phones that have the words "Western Electric"
on the phone piece (desk phones) and the base.

Can anyone of you help me?

Thanks,

David Dumas
dmd2@ra.msstate.edu


--
David Dumas
dmd2@Isis.MsState.Edu


--
David Dumas
dmd2@Isis.MsState.Edu
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From: lasseter@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Gary Lasseter)
Subject: Source: for Victor Victrola Parts VV-4
Summary: need source for victrola parts
Keywords: victrola
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:46:46 GMT

If anyone has any information on the source of parts for
a Victor could you pless e-mail the phone # or address.

much thanks,
gary	

lasseter@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Platimum Jewelry markings
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:21:59 GMT
Reply-To: ask@cblph.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio

WHat are the standard markings for platimum Jewelry?

I saw a piece marked:   1 AR  
                        750

I assume the 750 is 75% platimum, analagous to 18K gold jewelry.

Where does 750 sit on a scale of platimum jewelry?  For example, in
the US, 14K is seen quite often while 18K gold is more typical of
European gold.   And 10K is typical of cheaper jewelry (graduation
rings, for example.)

And what does 1 AR mean?

Thanks
-- 
Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
From: wilkiec@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: analytical balances
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:21:34 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: wilkiec@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

I need the striirups for some Ainsworth 2-pan analytical balances.
These are the type that were used 30 or 40 years ago and have been replaced
by electronic balances.  Does anyone have an idea where these stirrups may be
obtained.

Chuck
From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: 1946 Varga Calendar info wanted
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:23:19 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <125160009@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jeffa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Alley) writes:
>
>I was in an antique store about 30 miles from where I live and I found
>an old (1946) Varga pinup girl calendar. It was in near mint condition,
>had all of the months, no writing, etc... but a couple of the pages
>were starting to come off of the plastic binder that held them all
>together.  The calendar was tasteful and I was considering getting it
>but didn't because of the $75.00 price tag.  Would it be possible for
>me to find one a lot cheaper, or is the 75.00 price pretty reasonable?

Jeff, I have _Schroeder's Antiques Price Guide, Seventh Edition_ in
front of me.  A 1946 Vargas, with envelope, is listed at $65.00.  A
1948 Vargas, with envelope, is listed at $125.00.

If you like it and it's worth $75 to *you*, buy it.  But the dealer
isn't giving away anything.

Charleen
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Looking for Victorian Tub Feet!
From: R.C.(Chuck) Solly <NU035609@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:31:00 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network


In article <1993Jan21.112437.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, tkeough@kean.ucs.mun.ca says:
>
>        I have recently purchased a cast iron Victorian bath tub. In the
>process of moving it to a storage shed for some restoration I broke three
>bones in my foobut I digress. The tub itself is in excellent condition fo
             ^^^^^^
Yea, I know how you feel, I never broke any bones in my foobut, I did rupture
my clavititis... hurt like hell!


Sorry I couldn't resist :-)

Seriously though, look for bathtub feet at an antique shop that specializes
in architectural antiques. Buy some old rusty feet cheap and send them to
a plater that specializes in brass plating and tell him to replate them
and then polish. I did this and they look like a million dollars!

Chuck Solly
N. Dakota State University


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