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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:34:21 EDT
From:         ronin <HARNDEN@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 8-bit Ratners
              7 Oct 1992 23:03:36 -0500 from <mwa210@UTDALLAS.EDU>

actually, adding white noise to the 16 bit signal only gives you 16 bit
noise. think of it as really big dither. the amplitude will still vary
with 16 bit resolution. to make 8 bit sound with 16 bit works, you gotta
clip it, either directly (overdrive) or indirectly (algorithmic bit
reduction). i haven't actually seen much (any?) 16 bit gear that makes
this easy.
thank you to whoever it was that got here first with the decsription
of bitwidth as a determinant of dynamic range. people really do need to be
clear about which parameters of sound are affected by which factors, and
there does seem to be some confusion around here.
to flog the nag just a little, let me point out (reiterate?) two things:
1) yes, exactly... the sampling theorem is a statement of frequency
issues. a 1 bit system, sampled at sufficiently high rate, gives acceptable
speech intelligibility.
2) but frequency response, noise, and dynamic range are really all different
things, although of course related. the frequency content of a signal does
not fully specify its tone. if there is no dynamic range, then in the worst
case there is no harmonic envelope.
3) and noise isn't noise the way it is in analog. the correct term is
signal to error ratio (i think this was mentioned here, but i'm just
being pedantic). the fact that qunatization, if unfiltered, results in
upper order harmonic distortion is secondary, and is not part of the noise
specification. noise, in the strictest digital sense, is error... it is
missing information. the fact that this error is highly correlated to
signal amplitude is why analog noise is added to the signal (as dither)
improve the ratio. among other things, de-correlating the error converts
it into noise (in the psychoacoustic domain), and makes it more amenable to
normal masking... it becomes a normal 'noise floor'.
4) on this subject, allow me to recommend the books on digital audio by
Ken Pohlmann and John Watkinson.

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<HARNDEN@AUVM.BITNET> or <HARNDEN@AMERICAN.EDU>
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Original-From: wbf@alux2 (Fox)
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:09:00 EDT
From:         wbf@ALUX2.ATT.COM

Subject: Serious Dementia!

Oops!  My rapidly deteriorating mind slipped a gear when somebody
mentioned Jeff Pressing and I erroneously recalled data about Eric
Persing.  Sorry.

Bill Fox
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:03:36 -0500
From:         William Flanagan <mwa210@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 8-bit Ratners
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@american.edu>
              7 Oct 1992 19:02:31 -0500 from <schabtac@STOUT.ATD.UCAR.EDU>

Yes... it does.

But, 16-bit can simulate the grunge of 8-bit with the addition of
white noise.  8-bit can't begin to compete with the crystal-clear sound
of 8-bit.

But what are you guys arguing about?  We all know this.  8-bit and
are different price range tidbits of the same game...

So why argue????  :)

William
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:35:00 EDT
From:         "(rg8)" <Robert_L_GIBSON@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anonymous FTP of EMUSIC-L archives now available
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@american.edu>

"a quarter horse <g>."  It was originally "an American quarter horse
(AQHA)," but that seemed too technical for this list <g>.

Bob
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:22:22 EDT
From:         "Henry,Otto,W" <MUHENRY@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Original EPS specs
              11 Oct 1992 12:24:25 -0400 from <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

Original eps specs: ours works fine, but complicated to learn because of limite
d readout and matrix menu accesses. No effects but has a respectable sequencer.
 Percussion sounds quite good. Has disk drive. system has to be loaded into mem
ory with disk. It would be nice to have  the extra memory,but not necessary.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:37:00 EST
From:         NLOWREY@DREW.BITNET
Subject:      Don Buchla on the East Coast
Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.bitnet

Don Buchla, one of the most innovative electronic music pioneers, will
be making a rare appearance on the East Coast at Drew University in
Madison, NJ on Wednesday, Nov. 4. He'll be giving a free workshop
demonstrating his instruments THUNDER and LIGHTENING (plus a possible
new device) at 2:00 pm and will be giving a concert (again free) at
8:00 pm (along with Susan Rawcliff, a ceramic flute-maker).

For further information, call Norman Lowrey (201) 408-3142, or make
queries here.
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:55:02 CDT
From:         "guinan::kummer"@KIRK.MSOE.EDU
Subject:      RE: Chaos in Composition
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>The 3rd-quarter issue of the Computer Music Journal has an interesting article
>"Chaotic Systems as Simple (but Complex) Compositional Algorithms". This
>article gives a good overview of methods for using both iterated maps and
>continuous-flow simulations to provide raw material for compositions.
>A number of clearly-written and well-commented C programs are included,
>alog with graphical "scores" of sample outputs. The Henon attractor, the
>standard map, the Lorenz butterfly, and the Henon-Heiles gravitational
>field simulation are all given as examples, along with ideas on mapping two-,
>three-, and four-dimensional chaotic systems into music.

I hear many good things coming from the Computer Music Journal; can someone tell
me where I might subscribe to it and how much it costs?

Thanks.

Phantom Tryke
kummer@kirk.msoe
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:31:00 EDT
From:         "(rg8)" <Robert_L_GIBSON@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Anonymous FTP of EMUSIC-L archives now available
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@american.edu>

>Remember: this is a Mac Plus. It is sloooooow. Don't expect to download
>heaps of stuff in a short time.

Joe, this observation and the recent discussions of 8 and 16-bit resolution
lead me to share something which Otto Luening told me in a phone
converstation last year (he's over 90, BTW).  Prof. Luening said that Varese
once told him "just because you have airplanes doesn't mean you have to
shoot all the horses."

I'm  happy to hear your Mac Plus is plugging away at something useful.
Mine is still my only computer (and I also have an quarter horse <g>).

Bob
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:18:13 MDT
From:         "(Adam Schabtach)" <schabtac@STOUT.ATD.UCAR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Vintage Synth Re-Issues
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>>  From what VFX-SD owners have told me (and I know it's not in production
>>anymore) the VFX-SDI + VFX-SDII are very reliable.
>
>I'm not sure I'd use the word "very." They're probably OK hardware-wise but
>the sequencing software onboard is famous for being flakey and I wouldn't
>trust one to be bug free.

Nor would I, and I used to own a VFXsdI with the II ROMs. It would choke
and act weird if you sent it controller data too quickly, and it would do
even worse things (like crash altogether) if you sent it SysEx data too
quickly. ("Too quickly" means "from a FaderMaster or other generic MIDI
control source", in the case of controller data; and "half as slow as
Ensoniq's specs recommend", in the case of SysEx data.)

--Adam
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Subject: Anonymous FTP of EMUSIC-L archives now available
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:20:09 GMT
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Thanks to Peter N. Lewis of Curtin University in Perth, Austrailia, we now
have a secure anonymous FTP server which I'm running on my Mac Plus.

I have archived the EMUSIC-L digests which I have to date on this server,
and will be adding more as I complete them (and recover old ones from
the archives).

The server is located at castrovalva.gsfc.nasa.gov. You may log in as
anonymous, with your mailing address as password. I will open the
server 24 hours a day first; if I end up swamped with FTPs, I'll
have to limit the time to after working hours.

Remember: this is a Mac Plus. It is sloooooow. Don't expect to download
heaps of stuff in a short time.

 --- Joe M.
From: turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (Mitch Turitz)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.advanc-l
Subject: Authority control reports
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:48:56 GMT
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This is in response to Valerie Bross' request for information
about authority control in Geac Advance:

   At SFSU, we are now running a report weekly (RF261) which shows all
new headings (name, subject, series, uniform titles) added to the
database as of a specified date.  We then go through the extensive
manual review of each heading to determine why this heading is appearing
as a new heading in the database.  Is it because this is a unique
heading which never previously appeared?  Is it beacuse the tagging or
indicators are slightly different, causing the heading to file
separately?  Or is the capitalization or punctuation just different
enough to cause a separate record to be created?  It is a lot of work,
but will ultimately help us clean up the database.

  Speaking of cleanup, we ran a different report (RF175) back in July to
identify all the DUPLICATE headings in our database.  It printed out
over 3,000 pages (single-spaced) of headings which we are slowly
checking.  Many of these are duplicates due to tagging (e.g. United
States appearing as both a 150 and 151), punctuation and capitalization.
HOwever, each heading has to be looked at individually and evaluated.
So far we have (manually) deleted over 2,000 duplicate headings from the
database.

  Fortunately, merging headings is very easy.  The problem is keeping up
with the various error reports from Referece librarians about the
duplicate headings causing the "1 of 2 Headings" display in the OPAC
(and therefore, only the observant will realize that you have to hit the
SEE NEXT option to go to the next heading).  It took a long time, but I
finally cleaned up all the Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616 headings.

  In summary, we are doing authority control as a post-cataloging
function.  This way we can observe new headings as they are added to the
database and determine if we also need to download the authority record
for them from OCLC.
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* San Francisco State University Library     *
* 1630 Holloway Ave., S.F., CA  94132        *
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:16:05 CDT
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From:         "(Mick Gahan)" <gahan@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>

search * in LOG9209 LOG9208 LOG9210

index
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:36:55 -0400
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From:         mjiang <mjiang@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      subscription

I would like to join this news group. Please send me the mail.*
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:21:32 PST
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From:         June Wilson <wilsonj@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      RECALLS/TRACES

          Has anyone else had difficulty with the new procedures for
          placing recalls and traces with version 4.0?  Here at Oregon
          State University, we are trying to train our student
          assistants who work at the public service counter, but the
          procedures don't seem consistent.  Some key strokes take us
          to one screen, then the next time, the same key stroke takes
          us to another screen.  Sometimes the necessary notices are
          printed and other times they aren't.  Have you found the
          documentation provided by GEAC to be precise? If not, have
          you developed specific step by step procedures which seem to
          work consistently for you?  We could really use the
          feed-back.  Thanks.
From: hacklemd@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU (Debbie Hackleman)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.advanc-l
Subject: Documents & Authority Processing
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:27:56 GMT
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          I have a few questions I'd like to ask of other Advance
          sites:

          1.   Have you loaded Marcive retrospective tapes for
          government publications into an Advance system?

          If so, could you share your process of planning, loading,
          and cleanup?


          2.   Have you loaded Marcive or OCLC current government
          publications tapes on an ongoing basis?

          In addition to the above process issues--what impact did
          this have on your workflow in both the public and technical
          services areas?  What training issues did you encounter in
          processing documents and in using the records in the public
          catalog?


          3.   Have you done an authority cleanup of your Advance
          database?  We are most interested in those who had an
          existing Advance database, created a tape of the
          bibliographic records, sent that tape to a vendor for
          cleanup, and reloaded both the authority tapes and the
          bibliographic tapes.

          I would also appreciate hearing from anyone who has devised
          a method of handling ongoing authority work using the
          Advance system.  Do you do authority work as a part of the
          cataloging process before filing records?  Do you do it
          based on reports generated from the Advance system?  We have
          had some difficulty with existing reports giving us the
          information we need in a usable format.  Have any sites
          designed their own reports for ongoing authority
          maintenance?



          Thank you--I would appreciate any information on these
          questions.

          Deb Hackleman
          Catalog Division
          Kerr Library
          Oregon State University
          Corvallis, OR 97331
          (503) 737-2949, 3181

          Hacklemd@cc:Mail.orst.edu
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:52:30 -0400
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From:         "(Rebecca Guenther)" <rgue@SEQ1.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      USMARC Announcement

                                     Field 003 to Appear
                                 In MARC Distribution Service
                                         Tape Records


              Starting in late 1992 or early 1993, a Control Number
Identifier (field 003) will be present in each record in the USMARC
distribution services from CDS.  Distribution tapes containing LC
bibliographic cataloging will begin to carry the 003 field in
records as of February 1993.  A notice will accompany the first
tape in each service that includes records having an 003 field.

              The 003 field will contain the National Union Catalog
symbol of the system whose control number is present in the 001
field (Control Number).  A complete description of the 003 field
was issued in Update No. 4 (December 1991) to the USMARC Format for
Bibliographic Data.

              Questions regarding field 003 should be directed to:

                                         Phyllis Bruns
                                      Library of Congress
                         Network Development and MARC Standards Office
                                   Washington, DC 20540-4020

                                 Phone:  (202) 707-5767

              Questions about the MARC subscription tape services
should be addressed to:

                                      Library of Congress
                                   Customer Services Section
                                Cataloging Distribution Service
                                   Washington, DC 20541-5017

                                     Phone: (202) 707-6100
                                      FAX: (202) 707-1334


                                        September 1992
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:58:57 MST
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Online/CDROM 92

Are any of you fine Advance folks planning to attend Online/CDROM in
Chicago the 25-28th of October?  I'm looking for a roommate to cut costs.
My only requirement is that you not smoke in the room.  Room at Palmer
House, which is almost affordable with two to share.

Replies off-list preferred.   Thanks.

dan

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* Boise State University                                                    *
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From: LS973@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
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Subject: Reserve Book Room - Practical Questions
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:30:00 GMT
              <ADVANC-L@IDBSU.BITNET>
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Greetings:
        We are about to purchase the Advance 4.0 system, and we have some
questions regarding the Reserve Book Room.  We have studied the
documentation and are wondering if members of ADVANC-L who have used
the Reserve Book Room would be willing to provide information based
on their experience.

1. What steps are necessary to put the course record on the system?
        From our reading of the documentation is appears as though
        three differenct records are somehow linked - is this
        correct?  Does one have to key in all the information
        of the three different records?

This is our opening question.  For those who are willing to
communicate with us, please contact us at:
ls973@albnyvms.bitnet
ls973@uacsc1.albany.edu   internet
From: wilsonj@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU (June Wilson)
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Subject: Recalls
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:52:38 GMT
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          A couple of weeks ago when I requested information on the
          placing of recalls using version 4.02, I was not referring
          to whether or not 4.02 was being recalled; I am wondering if
          any one else has had problems in placing recalls on books
          that are checked out.  The trace procedure works fine, but
          the recall procedure works only part of the time.

          Thanks for any ideas!
          June Wilson
          Cirulation Services
          Oregon State University
          Kerr Library
          wilsonj@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:12:02 PDT
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From:         Mitch Turitz <turitz@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      4.02 recall?

I thought I saw a message within the last week something about version
4.02 being recalled?  I deleted the message and I don't remember now
what it said.   Can anyone either send it to me or confirm what the
story is?  As I remember it was something along the lines of "4.02 is
being recalled and will NOT be replaced.  Geac will just wait until 5.0
is released" or something to that effect.  As I remember this message
was not posted from someone at Geac.

Does this mean that anyone with earlier versions (e.g. in our case 4.0?)
will also have their versions recalled?  and if so, what do we do in the
meantime?

We have noticed problems with our indexing and browse displays
especially in call numbers and authorities for headings deleted or
changed.
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* San Francisco State University Library     *
* 1630 Holloway Ave., S.F., CA  94132        *
* Voice: (415) 338-7883  FAX: (415) 338-6199 *
* Internet: turitz@sfsu.edu                  *
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:52:05 EDT
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From:         WOLFLE@VTVM2.BITNET
Subject:      Statistics text for psychology

   I don't know.  And I have no monetary interest in it, but
what about _Statistical Methods for Psychology_ by David Howell,
PWS-KENT Publishing Company, 1992.

                                  Lee Wolfle
                                  WOLFLE at VTVM1
                                  wolfle@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
From: gdallal@pearl.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
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Subject: Re: abbreviations
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:33:00 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
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In article <EDSTAT-L%92100920535118@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU>, "Peter A. Lachenbruch" <IARSPAL@UCLAMVS.BITNET> writes...

>Similarly, does *words* mean quotes or underline or what.

IANAL, but I've always used *this device* for emphasis, rather than SHOUTING.

(IANAL:  I am not a lawyer.  The frequency with which it is used varies
greatly from newsgroup to newsgroup.)
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