HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: My First Post.
Summary: Name Flame, please ignore
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:42:34 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1989Apr25.panic@ground.zero> worm@internet.net.edu (The Internet Worm) writes:

>   No, but I've got a friend named Richard Morris that might be able to
>help you out.  Last I heard, he was working on something like that,
>although he had been having some trouble with his code...
>   His mail has been bouncing lately, though.  You could try contacting
>his father's place of business....

ROBERT Morris, Jr.  

BTW, here's a program which will crash a certain system which will
remain nameless (and no, you don't need root):
----
main()
{}
----
(OK, so you don't know the compiler options...)
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
From: wiml@cs.washington.edu (William Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: YAFP: TRS-80 Super Graphics
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:25:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <YAMAUCHI.92Aug29141341@fox.ces.cwru.edu> yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes:
>Now, you can delete your VARPTR/POKE commands, and whenever you want
>to display your alien invader, simply PRINT A$ at the appropriate
>point in the screen.

 The same trick was the standard way to run assembly language
programs on the ZX81/Timex-Sinclair 1000 (and others of their ilk).
Youd first write a program like this:

10 REM XXXXXXXXXXX....
20 FOR I=16514 TO 16823
30 INPUT A
40 POKE I,A
50 NEXT I

(My sinclair basic is very rusty, so please excuse any weirdities.)
You'd run it and enter the values for your ML program, which would
get stored in the REM statement. Then you'd delete the input routine and 
replace it with the BASIC part of the real program.

I ended up doing this often enough that for short programs I'd just
type in the REM statement directly. This wasn't always possible
unfortunately because of the Sinclair's bizarre character set (non-ASCII,
of course!). The lower 128 characters were pretty normal --- numbers,
letters (uppercase only), etc. But towards the upper end of the
set were entire tokens --- "LET ", " TO ", etc. were all single characters.
(The display memory was variable-sized to account for this, and also
to save memory by not storing the righthand white space. In 1 or 2 K of
RAM it's a useful technique...) But because of the mode-ful nature
of the keyboard (probably why I use vi), "LET " would only be bound to
any keys if you'd just entered a line number! At other times,
the same key would be, I think, "L" (maybe "K"). The shift key would
allow you to use other tokens like " TO " and "THEN". A graphics-mode
key would let you enter the various "graphics" characters...  When
my membrane keyboard wore out and I cobbled on a "real" keyboard
(from RS, probably), I'd memorized almost all of these bindings 
and hardly ever had to refer to the original keyboard... just as well,
since the new keyboard didn't have quite the same wiring and the
bottom row of letters was shifted over. Ahhh, memories. =8)

I probably have a soft spot in my head for the Timex because  it's
the first computer (such as it was) that I really got any hands-on
use of ... 
Xref: sparky alt.hackers:1355 talk.bizarre:28646
From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Your very own Magic 8 Ball simulator
Summary: Se dio estus hakero, li hakus perle.
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:05:43 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

#!/usr/bin/perl

srand(time|$$);
print
(
	"YES.",
	"You may rely on it.",
	"It is decidedly so.",
	"Yes, definitely.",
	"Without a doubt.",
	"It is certain.",
	"Most likely.",
	"Outlook good.",
	"Signs point to `yes.'",
	"As I see it, yes.",
	"Reply hazy, try again.",
	"Concentrate and ask again.",
	"Ask again later.",
	"Better not tell you now.",
	"Cannot predict now.",
	"My sources say, `No.'",
	"Very doubtful.",
	"Don't count on it.",
	"Outlook not so good.",
	"My reply is: No."
)[rand(20)] . "\n";

-- 
	Jim Gillogly
	jim@rand.org
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: riepe@ifwm11.ifw.uni-hannover.de (Michael Riepe)
Subject: Re: My First Post.
Organization: University of Hannover, Germany - IFW
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:28:30 GMT

About 6 weeks ago I wrote a program that will display a full-screen,
override-redirected Xlib window on any machine in the net that has
display permission set for the originating host. The window catches all
X events and overrides the window manager, therefore you can't remove it,
unless you kill the program or restart the X server.

I'm working on a version that copies itself across the net and compiles
on the destination host. Does anyone have a good idea how to do that ?

----------------------------------------------------------------
 Michael Riepe                          Tel.: +49-0511-762-5092
 riepe@ifwm11.ifw.uni-hannover.de

 Universitaet Hannover
 Institut fuer Fertigungstechnik und spanende Werkzeugmaschinen
 Schlosswender Str. 5  
 W-3000 Hannover 1  
 Germany
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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: aroll@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Ashley Roll)
Subject: Major Kludge!!
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 02:41:56 GMT

This is not actually something that I did - a friend did it..

He wrote a database in Amiga Basic (if that is not bad enough)
but he needed to run it off about 7 serial ports... Now Amiga
basic is only capable of useing one serial line (the first on 
that machine) so he made seven copies on basic and hacked each
one so that it addressed a different port... and now has 7 or 8
copies of basic running, each running a copy of his database...

Cheers,
Ashley Roll


-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
  Ashley Roll - aroll@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au   Griffith University, Australia
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
            Acid absorbs 47 times it's weight in excess Reality.
                                   - Unknown.

                        - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  The thoughts, ideas and opinions expressed herein are my own and as such  
    are completly correct, I will however respect your right to be wrong. 
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From: j..barrett@madness.network23.com (J. Barrett) 
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
Subject: braille output
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: j..barrett@madness.network23.com (J. Barrett) 

from j.barrett@madness.network23.com


is anyone still interested in the text files showing
braille output? i did route them in e-mail and have
gotten no responses.
                                                                    
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
From: ag12551@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Jim Krushelnitzky)
Subject: Janelle
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:57:12 GMT

Janelle is a Blind Student in our school. She is in grade 7 and
would like to correspond with other blind students. We are
Pierceland High School in Pierceland,Saskatchewan,Canada . Our
address is ag12551 on unibase.
Xref: sparky alt.education.disabled:147 alt.education.distance:335
From: DLP@psuvm.psu.edu (David L. Passmore)
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled,alt.education.distance
Subject: Human Subjects Workshop Correction
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:06:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


October 28 is the correct date for the Human Subjects workshop to be
offered by the Northeastern Educational Research Association.
Other information posted about thw workshop is correct as far as my aged
an figure it out. My error.
From: dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com ("I, Dubious: TAY2-2/M7, DTN 227-3709  02-Sep-1992 0947")
Subject: Electronic Chronicles
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:50:32 PDT
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA06798; Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:50:33 -0700
X-Received: by enet-gw.pa.dec.com; id AA20079; Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:50:31 -0700
X-Received: from tnpubs.enet; by decwrl.enet; Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:50:32 PDT
X-To: disted@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
X-Cc: dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
X-Apparently-To: alt.education.distance.usenet

Next week, Anamnesis Press (P.O. Box 14304, Tallahassee, FL
32317) will publish _Electronic Chronicles: Columns of the
Changes of Our Time_ by Paul Levinson, Ph.D.  _Chronicles_
($14.95) is a compilation of 77 columns that Dr. Levinson has
published online since 1985. Many of the columns concern online
education.

Paul Levinson is Director of Connected Education, Inc.     
Connect Ed offers an entirely on-line MA in Technology and
Society (offered through the MA in Media Studies at The New
School for Social Research). It also offers non-credit On-Line
Writer's Workshops, tutoring in English as a Second Language,
Foreign Language Workshops, and a Workshop in On-Line DataBase
Searching.

William Dubie
dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation,
Littleton, Mass.

Standard disclaimer: These views don't necessarily
reflect those of Digital Equipment Corporation.

Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: GED Info
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:43:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Does anyone know of a computer-based GED instruction program?
I checked in archie. Where else could I look? Thanks

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: esz001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Will Overington)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: Re: Help for a colleague
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:35:29 GMT
Organization: Coventry University, Coventry, UK

In article <Aug.27.22.52.27.1992.20644@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Joyce Morris) writes:
>I have a colleague who does not have access to this group who is in
>need of advice about conducting distance education.  Please reply
>directly to him at his e-mail address.  Also if you can tell him how to
>access this newsgroup that would be appreciated.  My efforts to find
>out have met with failure.

I am not sure what exactly you are trying to find and what the efforts
were that you have made that have met with failure.

The newsgroup alt.education.distance is a newsgroup that is part of
the alt.* hierarchy that is often distributed to sites around the world,
using the same transmission systems as regular usenet groups.

As you have posted to it, and if you get this reply, then "that's it".

I suggested the introduction of the group last September in alt.config
and after some discussion on the name, it was newgrouped as
alt.education.distance on or just before the 1st October 1991.
People who are interested have then put the name of the group near the
top of their .newsrc file, which is the file that lists the groups that
you are presented with, in the order that they are to be presented.
People then read what is sent and post as they wish. There is nothing
more to it.

However, you might be interested to know that there is a mailing list
distribution system called DEOSNEWS that I found out about because
someone posted details to this group, so I mailed in a request to be on
the distribution list.

Copies of the DEOSNEWS mailings also get sent to alt.education.distance,
but I think that this is a manually performed activity by someone on
the mailing list.

I try to keep an archive of alt.education.distance and will try to
find the request address and post it.

>    Thanks
[The forwarded message here deleted]
>
>DAVID DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS NEWSGROUP SO REPLIES SHOULD
>BE DIRECTED VIA E-MAIL TO HIM.  THE LIST HE HAS REFERRED TO IS TIPS - A
>A PSYCHOLOGY TEACHING LIST, -NOT- ALT.DISTANCE.EDUCATION.  ANYONE WHO
>CAN GIVE HIM DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO ACCESS ALT.DISTANCE.EDUCATION PLEASE
>ALSO E-MAIL HIM.
>
>Thank you

Actually it is alt.education.distance, not alt.distance.education as
it fits into the mini ad hoc hierarchy alt.education.* which existed
previously, having contained alt.education.disabled already.
From: Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu>
Subject: Re: Help for a colleague
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:25:45 GMT

Subject: Help for a colleague
From: Joyce Morris, jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu
In article <Aug.27.22.52.27.1992.20644@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Joyce Morris,
jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu writes:
>I have a colleague who does not have access to this group who is in
>need of advice about conducting distance education.  Please reply
>directly to him at his e-mail address. 

(text deleted)

>His message follows:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>From: D_LAWSON@unhh.unh.edu (DAVID LAWSON, PSYCHOLOGY DEPT., KEENE
>STATE COLLEGE) 
>Subject: Teaching over Interactive Television Networks 

(text deleted)

>
>I know that many types of "Distance Education" programs exist
>throughout the country.  I would like to solicit suggestions from
>anyone who has taught ITV or similar types of courses, and from
>those who are interested in problems or issues raised by the
>application of these electronic techonologies to teaching.  It is
>relatively new to me.  I look forward to learning about a new
>technology and expanding my repertoire of teaching skills.  If
>possible, I would also like to avoid "reinventing the wheel."  A
>"short" list of topics might include:
>
>Teaching methods that promote active learning and involvement 
>Class activities or projects that stimulate discussion
>   and application of concepts 
>Teaching methods or styles that worked and those that did not 
>Methods of evaluation (also, advantages and disadvantages) 
>Providing effective feedback on examinations, papers, etc. 
>Scheduling "office hours" and consulting with students located 
>   at the remote sites (perhaps via telephone conference calls, 
>   FAX, e-mail, ITV transmission, etc.) 
>Overcoming or at least minimizing "depersonalization" due to 
>   distance and ITV technology 
>In what ways were ITV or distance education classes different 
>   from traditional classes? 
>What would you do differently next time?  What would you repeat? 
>

It would be a shame if replies to David Lawson were not also posted 
here as well for the benefit of others in similar situations.  Also, I 
would like to read them out of general interest, and suspect others
might want to also.

If nothing else, perhaps David could forward replies he receives via
email to Joyce Morris, who could then post them here.

============================================================
Frank C. Sayre        
sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: Mortenso@ulrik.uio.no (Morten Soby)
Subject: Computer Conferencing
Organization: PFI/UiO
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:33:49 GMT

Ship Ahoy!

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Essential reading for anyone interested in sailing through the
storms and thrills of computer conferencing and distance education...

COLLABORATIVE LEARNING THROUGH COMPUTER CONFERENCING
The Najaden Papers

edited by Anthony R. Kaye
Institute of Educational Technology, Open University, UK

================================================================
A book prepared as a result of a NATO Advanced Research Workshop
held on the sailing ship Najaden during a journey from
Copenhagen to Stockholm in July 1991. Published by Springer-Verlag

(NATO ASI Series F: Computer and Systems Sciences, Special
Programme AET, Vol 90) Heidelberg: Springer-Verlag, 260 pp
Published August 1992,  Hardcover, DM 88,-  ISBN 3-540-55755-5
================================================================

CONTENTS

Preface:  Arne Welin, Captain of the Najaden

Introduction and acknowledgements

1 Learning Together Apart:  Anthony Kaye

Part I  COMPUTER CONFERENCING IN PRACTICE

2 Telematic support for in-service teacher training:  Cristina Simon
3 Waiting for Electropolis:  Morten Soby
4 Computer-mediated communication in management learning:
  David McConnell
5 International Online Teams: Elaine McCreary & Madge Brochet
6 Collaborative learning in a large-scale conferencing system:
  Jesus Rueda

Part II  WAYS OF UNDERSTANDING ONLINE COLLABORATION

7 Evaluation methodologies for conferencing applications:
  Robin Mason
8 Content analysis of computer conferences:  France Henri
9 A case study approach to evaluation:  Michael Waggoner
10 Talking, teaching and learning in network groups:   Sara Kiesler
11 Collaborative learning in networked organisations:  John Gundry

Part III  ISSUES IN SOFTWARE DESIGN

12 The challenge of conferencing systems design:  Oliver Vallee
13 Metaphors and interface design:  Elsebeth Sorensen
14 Human interfaces to promote collaboration:  Gary Alexander
15 Towards a hypermedium for collaborative learning?: Alain Derycke
16 Computer conferencing functions and standards:  Jacob Palme
17 Hardware and software systems and architecture: Jens Ambrosius

Index
====================================================================

Morten Sby, 
University of Oslo, The Faculty of Social Science   	       	
Institute for Educational Research      	
P.O. Box 1092, N-0317 Oslo 3, Norway
Xref: sparky alt.education.distance:334 alt.uu.future:222
From: michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: HomeSchoolingGroup?
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:10:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University


Is there a group on the net that deals with those interested
in home schooling?

Curious,
Chaplin.
--
===========================================================================
Michael Chaplin                    Language is a virus from outer space.
michael@albert.bu.edu                     - William S. Burroughs

The Einstein Papers Project        The opinions contained herein reflect
Boston University                      neither those of the project, 
Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.          nor those of Albert Einstein.
From: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: TAD TO BEEPR/PAGER
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 


I am thinking of getting a pager (beeper).

I would like to be paged when my answering machine gets a message.

What are the recommendations to accomplish this?

I now use two Panasonic KX-T1470 Answering Machines and would prefer
not to get another machine as I am very pleased with the ones I have.
They have all the features that I want, except that they will not
dial a beeper number.

As I already have telephones that handle multiple lines, I especially
would like to avoid having to get another answering machine that
would include its own phone that would only be usable on one line.

Incidentally, the reason that I use two answering machines instead of
a dual line answering machine is because a dual line answering
machine can not answer both lines simultaneously.

Ray Normandeau
INTERNET:ray.normandeau@factory.com
P O Box 854, Times Square Station, New York, NY 10108-0854
From: shef@ipla01.hac.com (Ian B. Shef)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: TAD TO BEEPR/PAGER
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:35:48 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co. (MSG), Canoga Park, CA.

In article <341.586.uupcb@factory.com> ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) writes:
>
>I am thinking of getting a pager (beeper).
>
>I would like to be paged when my answering machine gets a message.
>
>What are the recommendations to accomplish this?
>
><Description of set-up deleted.>
>        
Technel makes several excellent devices for this type of purpose,
with a range of features.  In addition, they can have their options 
(e.g. beeper number, enable/disable, type of paging system, etc.)
changed remotely (yes, there is a security code to protect it).

Technel is located in Palmdale, California.  Their phone
number is (805) 722-4679 .    Please tell them how you found out
about them (from me, Ian Shef).  I provided some technical assistance
in the design of the hardware and firmware, so I am biased, but...
these are excellent devices, with features and robustness not found
in competing devices.

Sorry, but I was not able to understand your phone set up and how
you wanted to use it in relationship to your answering machines and
your beeper, so I don't know whether one device will be sufficient,
or two, or one with an automated switching device (available from
Radio Shack).  Explain it to Technel... they are wonderfully
knowledgeable about phone systems and the options available to you.
(I'm not biased, am I ?    :-)

=============================================================================

-- 
Ian Shef                         Internet: shef@ipla01.hac.com  [147.20.35.201]
Hughes Aircraft Co. 268/W62          uucp: ...!usc!hacgate!ipla01!shef (maybe?)
P.O. Box 7928                    phone: 818-702-4365
Canoga Park, CA 91309-7928       Any opinions expressed are author's own.
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Usage of alt.dcom.telecom
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:54:46 GMT

NOT FOR PUBLICATION IN COMP.DCOM.TELECOM

In article <9209011756.AA19589@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, asa@STL-09SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin on 9000) writes:

  So I am wondering just what the purpose of alt.dcom.telecom is. Why
  split this topic into groups in two different heirarchies?

It was originally created as a place to complain about Pat, and to post
things that Pat filters out.  Recently some cretin has been forwarding a.d.t
to c.d.t, and that's why you see a lot of duplication.  This forwarding is
a mis-service and should be stopped.

I can't explain why people post things in here that obviously should have
gone to c.d.t.  I think they're just confused.
Xref: sparky alt.dcom.telecom:535 sci.engr:1953
From: hatamian@gandalf.rutgers.edu (ShAhin)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom,sci.engr
Subject: MSEE Seeking Employment
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:35:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.dcom.telecom
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


 Hello everyone,

I am a recent MSEE/post-qualifying Ph.D. student at Rutgers University.
My specialization is in Mobile Communication Systems and Speech Processing
Applications. 

If you or someone you know is looking to hire, please contact me for
further info and resume.

Thanks,

Shahin Hatamian
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom