From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A question for Eagle fans....
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:29:00 GMT
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In article <1993Jan4.225207.23037@ntmtv> jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin) writes:
>
>I have a sincere question for Eagle fans on the net. This morning
>I was listening to a local radio sports talk show hosted by 
>by local and ESPN personality Norm Hitzges (sp?). As is a habit
>of Norms he checks in with talk shows in opposing cities. Three times
>this year Norm has simulcast shows with a couple of guys from 
>WIP radio I believe this is an all sports talk station in Philly. 
>
>During the course of a 5 minute discussion these "professionals" 
>joked about allowing Andre Waters to play this week for one play
>so he can break Emmit Smith's leg and to warm up Beurlian because
>Troy was going to the hospital. This ofcourse accompanied by a the
>type of eagle home team woofing I'd expect to find at the local pub
>after several cold ones not worthy of wasted bandwith here.

Good points Jeff!!  Since I live near Philly (in central NJ), I have
the pleasure :-) of being able to tune in WIP for these clowns you 
mention.  Being a Cowboys fan and listening to these guys is not
much fun.  I started listening to the station a few years ago because
of the sports updates they give every half hour.  It was a good way to
keep up on roster moves, cuts, etc. as soon as they happen.  More 
recently, I've given up listening because it's just not worth sitting
though stooges like these.  Almost every host on this station fits the
same mold: a complete homer who disregards objectivity for the sake of
giving the local yahoo fans what they want to hear.  Meanwhile, when 
the Eagles lose, these same jokers tear up the organization as nothing
but losers, quitters, and malcontents.  That's why it's so much fun
for non-Eagle fans to see the Eagles lose; we get to witness the 
backstabbing, finger pointing ways as they jump off the bandwagon.  
But, if you notice, they closely model the team itself.  When they are
winning, the Eagles have the cockiest attitude and the wisest mouths in
all of pro sports.  When they are brought back to earth with a loss, they
don't give credit to the other team, but resort to infighting and passing
the blame off on each other and their own management and coaches.

>These men offered NO insites to the game to be played. Norm while
>a Dallas personality is by no means a homey. Infact he picked the
>Eagles in the first Eagles/Cowboys match this year.  Its distasteful
>to listen to these Eagle woofing idiots 2 now 3 times a year. Whats
>worse is when Norm, in an attempt to balance the segment does some
>of his own toned down Cowboy woofing (though this woofing NEVER,
>EVER involves avocacy of injuries to another player even in "jest").
>Norm's only comment on Andre Waters is that he hope he plays to add
>to the overall leval of play in the game.  I've never heard a Dallas
>talkshow host avocate injury as part of a winning game plan. I doubt
>I'd have much use for a host who would stoop to that level.

But, this is exactly what the typical Philly fan wants to hear.  That
their "heroes" are going to inflict pain and injury on the opposition.
It's almost as important to them as winning the game.  I'm convinced
that most of them use their team as an alter-ego, when the Eagles go
out and crack another players' head or blow out their knee, these
couch potatoes walk a little taller.  Sick, but true.

>I plan on missing the 2 hour simulcast this Friday. It would 
>take away from may enjoyment of the game. Norm does simulcast
>with stations in Washington, and NY and never heard the low class
>trash talk I heard during the Philly segments.

I was on my way to work Monday moring and when I started my car,
WIP was on the radio.  No sooner did I have the car in drive, 
when one of their morning men was ranting and raving about how the
Cowboys defense stinks.  The top ranked defense in the NFL.  I
quickly popped in a Springsteen cassette and vowed to not let WIP
pollute the interior of my car again this week.

>Now the Question:
>Are these idiots representive of the Philidelphia media?  If
>so you have my sympathy. Ofcourse you give the people what
>they want. Have listeners to sports talk shows in any other
>cities heard this trash out of Philly.

To be fair, no not all the Philly media is like this.  But,
other facets of it are more fair weather minded.  When the
Eagles win, they're all fans, when they lose, nobody can be
bothered.  I opened my local paper on Monday morning and there
was a picture on page two of a local Eagle fan at his favorite
watering hole, cheering for the Eagles during their game against
New Orleans.  For the picture, he was holding up a sign that
said "Dallas Sucks".  Pretty intelligent, huh?  

You're right, Jeff, when you say they give the people what they
want.  WIP is the National Enquirer of sports talk radio; very little
information or objectivity, just lots of sensationalism and trash.
A perfect match for the team and the fans.



Ray   GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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