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From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: DOS & Linux (was Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask?
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:39:31 GMT


> LINUX has DOS emulation available?  Since when?  At what level?  Will
> it run Windows (3.0 in Real mode, presumably, if at all).

Yes, real soon now, I haven't tried it so I don't know much about it -  someone
told me it is better than then freeware pcm emulator - that might mean it can
run Windows, but I really don't know.

Here is an extract from the Linux FAQ...

IV. LINUX and DOS 
=================
 
QUESTION: Is is possible to access DOS from Linux?
 
ANSWER: Yes.  
(1) The mtools package allows you to access DOS files;
it emulates the DOS commands CD, COPY, DEL, DIR, TYPE, and others.
(2)  Since approximately version 0.97 of the kernel, you can mount
DOS file systems as part of your Linux directory tree, providing you
have an appropriate mount command.  
(3)  A DOS emulator is in alpha test, which will allow DOS programs
and utilities to run under Linux. 
 
 
Hope this helps,
Mark Aitchison.
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

To answer the original poster's question on removing a filename in a 
subdirectory that has a space in it:

cd \mydir
md tmp
copy *.* tmp
del *.*
copy tmp\*.* .
del tmp
rd tmp


douginoz
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:45:10 GMT

In article <5575@krafla.rhi.hi.is> einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) writes:
>
>DOS 7 ???
>
>
>How long will the DOS users be led as a donkey to the water???
>

As long as there's money to be made from it.  I.E.  there are many
fools among us!


-- 
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Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." Oscar Wilde
From: dudding@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Dennis Dudding Avionic Grad )
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Help--Space in filename..can't read/write/copy
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:42:40 GMT
Organization: College of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University, Athens, Ohio


	Try getting a copy of "The Norton Utilities, ver 5.0, Disk
Explorer".  I Know it can help you....I've done the same thing myself,
and the only way I could gain access to the file was through this  utility.
	Good luck......Hope this offered some help

	Dennis E. Dudding  dudding@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu

A
From: jskean@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan skean)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Address of Symantec
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:37:32 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: all
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

fergnani@cadlab.sublink.org (Sandro Fergnani) writes:

>Does anyone knows how to contact Symantec's tech support ??

Their general business address and phone number is:
---------------------------------------------------
Symantec Corporation            Phone (408)253-9600
10201 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA  95014-2132

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Michael R Castle)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:53:16 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <BxKoEC.JC8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk) writes:
>DOS doesn't have a 640K barrier.  DOS will use as much CONTINOUS memory it
>can find.  Since the upper 384K of the 1st meg. is reserved for hardware,
>(and bios) DOS can only "see" 640K.  One thing that may be possible is
>to use to 386 memory mapping to fool DOS into thinking that more memory
>is availiable, and then having a device driver handle the mem. swaps.
>
>
>					Todd Walk
>					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
>

Even then, real mode apps can still only access 1m of memory because of the 
segment:offset method.  Of course, if the next dos had dpmi built it, at 
least we would have a definitive base to work from to use more than 1m of
memory in protected mode, and we're back to os/2 or nt again.  maybe they 
could use nt as the protect-mode-with-real-mode-after-thought os, and use
dos [67].x as the real-mode-with-protected-mode-after-thought os.  Attack
the market from both ends :-> (though the latter might provide more 
compatibility for existing apps, they still wouldn't be able to take
advantage of better dos capabilities).

mrc
From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Formatting a 3.5" HD diskette to 720K - broken?
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:53:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Apologies for my recent OS/2 posting. I forgot which group I was
reading.

--David

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:56:07 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Nov13.065801.22564@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>device=c:\dos\himem.sys
>device=c:\dos\emm386.exe i=a000-afff
>dos=umb
>
>Emm386 gets xms memory from himem, which it maps into unused areas
>in the uma - including the A000 segment - which emm386 makes available
>via the xms umb calls. DOS=UMB instructs MSDOS.SYS to request any & all
                                          ^^^^^^^^^ 
Ooops...I'm not sure which part of MS-DOS handles this actually (prob
the initialization module of IO.SYS, which handles CONFIG.SYS processing).
Even ex-product support folks hate to be incorrect....

>xms umbs and add them to the MS-DOS memory pool. Since the A000 segment
>is contiguous with the rest of 'conventional' memory, it gets folded
>into it. Nice, eh?)

-jen
not speaking for microsoft....
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:13:22 GMT

bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.174211.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>>> 
>>>>>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
>>
>>Rumours have MSDOS 7 as breaking the 640Kb barrier (and breaking old software,
>>I guess), and DRDOS 7 doing multitasking and to some extent breaking the 640K
>>barrier.  You could get Unix (Linux is pretty good, and free, and has DOS

>DOS, if it to remain MS-DOS or PC-DOS can *never* break the 640K barrier.
>It is part of what makes it DOS.  Anything that breaks the 640K
>barrier will have to be a new operating system.

DOS doesn't have a 640K barrier.  DOS will use as much CONTINOUS memory it
can find.  Since the upper 384K of the 1st meg. is reserved for hardware,
(and bios) DOS can only "see" 640K.  One thing that may be possible is
to use to 386 memory mapping to fool DOS into thinking that more memory
is availiable, and then having a device driver handle the mem. swaps.


					Todd Walk
					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
From: camdna@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Darren Natale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Windows crash
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've reached my wit's end on this, so I appeal to the collective wisdom
of the net...

I have been experiencing some rather maddening difficulties running DOS
programs under Windows. I'll describe just two (for now):

	I have been using a DOS file manager included with the old Word
Perfect Library utilities. If I try to access the "windows" directory, the
program crashes. Interestingly, this is the only directory access that will
result in a crash--in other words, the file manager program will successfully
navigate through every directory (except windows) without incident. Also,
the program crash only occurs when the FM is run from windows--if I exit
windows and run the program from DOS, it works completely fine. I don't suspect
the problem is with the PIF settings, since the same settings are used under
the same conditions on other computers without any problem--it is definitely
computer-specific. 
	The only difference between this and other computers I can think of
that might explain the problem is that the crash-happy computer uses a SCSI
drive. We recently upgraded to Windows 3.1 in the hope that the double-buffering
capacity of SMARTDRIVE might alleviate the problem, but it did not. I have
also suspected a conflict in memory with a video or network board, but
EMMExcluding A000-EFFF in the [386Enh] section of system.ini had no effect.
	Nothing I've tried has prevented the program from hanging. This brings
me to the second problem--when the program hangs, I had hoped that the local
reboot feature of Windows 3.1 would at least allow the program to go down 
gracefully, but again it's no go. If the program hangs and I <Ctrl>-<Alt>-Del,
Windows will capture the warm boot as it is supposed to. But when I press
<Enter> to exit the crashed program, I'm returned to the program instead of to
the Windows session. A second attempt at this same sequence of steps is 
successful about 25% of the time--the other 75% the computer hangs with both the
video gone awry (either blanks, writes smiley faces to the screen in a mock
C:\ prompt, or does what can best be described as "the wave") and the keyboard
locked.

The system:
	CompuAdd 333
	16 MB RAM
	Phoenix BIOS 1989
	SCSI hard drive
	DOS 5.0
	Windows 3.1
	ATI Graphics Ultra
	Grey-Scale card, Internet card, probably others I don't know about
	several SCSI cards for Tape drive, CD-ROM, HP ScanJet

Maybe there's just too much sh*t on it? :)

Thanks for any insights you may have.

DN
From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: echo >> gives erroneous results
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:55:33 GMT
Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting

mcastle@mcs213d.cs.umr.edu (Michael R Castle) writes:
>If you just want to get rid of ^Z for any other reason, try:
>
>type autoexec.bat > autoexec.tmp
>del autoexec.bat
>ren autoexec.tmp *.bat

May I suggest:

copy autoexec.bat autoexec.tmp
type autoexec.tmp > autoexec.bat
del autoexec.tmp

This way, except while the second command is actually running, you always
have a valid autoexec.bat.  If the system goes down at the wrong time it
won't be a disaster but it will be inconvenient.  My way you can always
start over from the beginning as long as each command completes whereas
the first way it depends on where you are in the sequence.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted - Construction Estimator
From: johnnie@mtcons.almanac.bc.ca (John Wilkinson)
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:33:35 PST
Organization: MT Construction, Nanaimo, B.C.

mueller@gdc.com (Martin Mueller) writes:


> 
> Anybody know where I can find one?
> 
> 
Hi, I might be able to help out a bit. I don't design houses but I am an
estimator. From what I've seen Design Cad would be a good choice on the
commercial side or PC Draft Cad shareware for design. None of these programs
provide much in the way of estimating except for the ability to mark items
which takes more time than doing it manually. In any case you're probably
better off to locate a cheap draftsman working out of his house locally. They
will usually have a good knowledge of what is needed by the local authorities.
Expect to pay about 1% of expected cost at the highest.
On the estimating side I have lots of tips and spreadsheet templates ( Quattro
or Supercalc) that I can share. I make my living by doing framing takeoffs
for the local lumberyards so I kind of know this area. I am in the process of
moving though ( 16th Nov ) but I should be available either here or Email.
My new address

John Wilkinson
218-1600  Dufferin Cres.
Nanaimo, B.C. Canada    V9S 5M2
(604) 754-3140

Look forward to hearing from you.
From: einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:14:25 GMT

In <130@complex.complex.is> frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes:

>baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:

>>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?

>No.  Basically DOS 6.0 is just DOS 5.0 with a bunch of new utilities bundled.
>The big changes will wait for DOS 7 - if that ever will be released.

DOS 7 ???


How long will the DOS users be led as a donkey to the water???

In my opinion, bringing a new version of DOS, calling it version 6.00 (when
it is (if frisk is right) only a upped- and repackaged DOS 5.00), is pure
insult.  It is like being hit in the face with a wet fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, DOS is a single tasking, single user, program loader.
It doesn't have any wildcard expansions build in.  Every program must
expand the wildcards for it self. 

I "Love it" when I'm running a program under DOS on a machine that has (say
4MB) and getting the error message: Not enough memory (knowing that that
memory came from the drasted 640k memory pool.)  When I _know_ that there
are at least 3MB more memory available.


(more ravings from me are deleted to protect the innocent at heart :-)
and all flames are directed to /dev/null)

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.bbs.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Locking out sectors
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:49:32 GMT

In <BxDpID.AAI@iat.holonet.net> kellys@orac.holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff) writes:

>The HD I use to run my BBS (opus) has a lot of bad sectors, and everytime opus
>runs into it, it gives one of those "Bad Sectors - R)ety, F)ail",etc errors.
>Does anyone know of a way to lock ou;the bad sectors, using some disk utility
>like Nortun or something?  I'm using MS-Dos 5.0, BTW.

Norton Utilities should contain tools to mark the bad sectors for you.

-- 
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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Can I Laserprint from DOS Command Line?
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:43:52 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I got a new laser printer (RealTech 9 ppm) hooked up to a 
Mac and a PC. On the PC, the printer works fine from Windows 
and from WordPerfect 5.1 in the DOS world.

However, I can no longer print from the DOS command line, as 
I used to be able to do with my old dot matrix printer. When 
I try to (either by Print Screen command, or a PRINT 
command) the data light on the printer flashes, but nothing 
else happens.

The printer has a Form Feed button, but apparently it isn't 
functional. The manual says "Ignored" beside that button, 
and when I  go off line and press it after the data light 
flashes, I just get a beep.

Anybody got any idea? I'll be grateful.

               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

	         "Davon mann nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss er schweigen."
					-- Wittgenstein
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov10.060504.10390
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Nov10.174211.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>> 
>>>>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
>
>Rumours have MSDOS 7 as breaking the 640Kb barrier (and breaking old software,
>I guess), and DRDOS 7 doing multitasking and to some extent breaking the 640K
>barrier.  You could get Unix (Linux is pretty good, and free, and has DOS

DOS, if it to remain MS-DOS or PC-DOS can *never* break the 640K barrier.
It is part of what makes it DOS.  Anything that breaks the 640K
barrier will have to be a new operating system.
From: mkohlhaa@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mike)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: \ and /
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:09:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.BxGtBJ.6qM
Organization: Indiana University

Hi.  I just recently got a 486 (after having and Amiga for a long time) and
am very annoyed at having to use "\" where I had always used "/".  Could 
someone recommend a utility or other solution that will equate
my handy / key to a \, but only will in DOS?  I thought
about reassigning the key, but I was afraid that the output would
still then be a "\" when I was connected to a Unix system.

Thanks in advance,

-- 

					-- Mike
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: dfraser@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: .qag extension?
Originator: dfraser@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State Looniversity of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:08:02 GMT


 Does anyone know what the .qag extension is for?  I found several files in my
windows directory with this extension that seem to be named after my different 
program groups(like main.qag).  These type of files appeared on my Uncle's
system before a virus wiped out his drive.
Are they supposed to be there or could they be a part of a virus?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: lmiller@scum.ssc.gov (Lee Miller)
Subject: gif problems
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:14:43 GMT


  I am looking for a program where I can view the newer gif files on my pc
  
   Thanks for any help

   Lee Miller
  lmiller@slug.ssc.gov
From: pmarquis@jade.tufts.edu (the Edge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Unknown database format.
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:58:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: jade.PMARQUIS.92Nov5105807
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.misc
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I have a database file that was produced by a friend's wife and she has no
idea where it came from.  It consists of two parts:  a file with a DOC
extension that appears to contain the list of database fields, and a file
with a FOL extension that appears to have the data.  Anyone have an idea as
to what this format is?  If so, how can I convert it something else?

Sorry if this is the wrong group, but I have no idea where this falls
under.  Thanks for your help.

--
Paul, the Edge, Marquis

pmarquis@jade.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Windows crash
From: Michel.Davidoff@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:40:32 PST
Organization: Sonoma state university

In article <Bx9Kyo.Isu@acsu.buffalo.edu> camdna@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Darren Natale) writes:
>Subject: Windows crash
>From: camdna@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Darren Natale)
>Date: 5 Nov 92 22:25:00 GMT
>I've reached my wit's end on this, so I appeal to the collective wisdom
>of the net...
>
>I have been experiencing some rather maddening difficulties running DOS
>programs under Windows. I'll describe just two (for now):
>
>	I have been using a DOS file manager included with the old Word
>Perfect Library utilities. If I try to access the "windows" directory, the
>program crashes. Interestingly, this is the only directory access that will
>result in a crash--in other words, the file manager program will successfully
>navigate through every directory (except windows) without incident. Also,
>the program crash only occurs when the FM is run from windows--if I exit
>windows and run the program from DOS, it works completely fine. I don't suspect
>the problem is with the PIF settings, since the same settings are used under
>the same conditions on other computers without any problem--it is definitely
>computer-specific. 
>	The only difference between this and other computers I can think of
>that might explain the problem is that the crash-happy computer uses a SCSI
>drive. We recently upgraded to Windows 3.1 in the hope that the double-buffering
>capacity of SMARTDRIVE might alleviate the problem, but it did not. I have
>also suspected a conflict in memory with a video or network board, but
>EMMExcluding A000-EFFF in the [386Enh] section of system.ini had no effect.
>	Nothing I've tried has prevented the program from hanging. This brings
>me to the second problem--when the program hangs, I had hoped that the local
>reboot feature of Windows 3.1 would at least allow the program to go down 
>gracefully, but again it's no go. If the program hangs and I <Ctrl>-<Alt>-Del,
>Windows will capture the warm boot as it is supposed to. But when I press
><Enter> to exit the crashed program, I'm returned to the program instead of to
>the Windows session. A second attempt at this same sequence of steps is 
>successful about 25% of the time--the other 75% the computer hangs with both the
>video gone awry (either blanks, writes smiley faces to the screen in a mock
>C:\ prompt, or does what can best be described as "the wave") and the keyboard
>locked.
>
>The system:
>	CompuAdd 333
>	16 MB RAM
>	Phoenix BIOS 1989
>	SCSI hard drive
>	DOS 5.0
>	Windows 3.1
>	ATI Graphics Ultra
>	Grey-Scale card, Internet card, probably others I don't know about
>	several SCSI cards for Tape drive, CD-ROM, HP ScanJet
>
>Maybe there's just too much sh*t on it? :)
>
>Thanks for any insights you may have.
>
>DN
>	 
In your config.sys are you excluding the card address?
I  would also try to exclude the video address.
Have you tried to run some utilities that will check for any conflicts in 
IRQ, Memory Etc ?

Thank You
Michel Davidoff
E-Mail Michel.Davidoff@Sonoma.edu