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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: The Keep - continues?
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:10:40 GMT

In article <BvL95D.EyL@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>In article <BvJ8x3.FEn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng) writes:
>|> 
>|> I know that the movie is called _The Keep_. It is available in any video
>|> store. It was also a lot better than I expected. I can't remember who was
>|> in it or who directed it. Sorry.
>|> 
>|> 
>|> Tracey
>|> 
>|> 
>
>I love the book and I love the movie. The movie was short on detail, but tall
>on atmosphere. The music was by Tangerine Dream and it along with some stunning
>cinematography makes for a sensory, even dreamy experience. Great SFX as well.
>I just wish that they had kept the sword in the end. The high energy laser cannon
>seemed to lack some grace.
>
spoilers for _The Keep_

One thing I disliked about the theatrical version is that they
changed the ending.  In the novel, Glaeken is allowed to become
human again, age, and eventually die.  In the film it is implied
that he died.  But, in the network version of the film shown
on NBC, they added footage that Mann had cut out which showed
him living on.  

Does anyone know why Mann cut the final scene out?


--
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     In the midst of his laughter and glee,   |Me, speak for Compaq?  
He had softly and suddenly vanished away---   |Yeah, right.
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From: hempling@quorum.com (David B. Hempling)
Subject: Greenaway Fest in SF (was Re: Prosepero's Books on Video????)
Originator: hempling@parker
Organization: Quorum Software Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:26:11 GMT

hager@cs.uwp.edu (Toad a la Mode) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.194359.3360@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain) writes:
>>Anyone know if Greenway's "Prospero's Books" is due for video release anytime
>>soon.  I missed it when it played in town.

>Catch the film at a revival theatre of university film series.  You'll 
>be glad you did.

For those in the San Francisco Bay Area, most (if not all) of 
Greenaway's films will be presented at the Castro Theater, in
San Francisco, during the last weekend of October through the 3rd or 
4th of November. 

"The Falls" will be shown during the last weekend of October. A 
collection of Greenaway's shorts will be shown on the following
Monday, and then double features follow, containing all of his major
films.

Those of you who don't know the Castro Theater and live in the area 
should check it out. Its one of the great old movie houses with ornate,
gilded plaster, large screen, balcony, and grand pipe organ. Its only 
flaw: most of the seats are in need of replacement. Some could be 
considered too uncomfortable for a Greenaway double feature. Sit in 
the balcony - the seats are in better shape. Or bring a pillow.  :-)

dave
hempling@quorum.com
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dr. Giggles
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:48:31 GMT

i too am curious about this..  if anyone has any information, and was planning
on emailing to Wes, i would like a copy..

thanx in advance..

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore

	ugabarra@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Necronomicon
Summary: What *is* it with Michigan, anyway?
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:06:22 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Sep26.003537.28248@zip.eecs.umich.edu> kalex@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ken Alexander) writes:
>In article <96800@bu.edu> abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:
>>
>>You should consider looking up the word 'joke' in a dictionary.
>>Seesh... bloody newbies..... 
>
>Indeed, especially ones who try to suddenly change their story after 
>someone else points out their foolishness.  Right, Al?

You *still* don't get it, do you, Chuckles? 

Sigh....

Look, I'll try to explain, using small words. That the entries in the
UC catalog in this matter are jokes is common knowledge.  At least, I
thought it was common knowledge. Some, it seems, are dense enough to
think that some people believe the entries.  And dense enough to bore
the net by taking the trouble to discredit the entries.

Now go away, you silly person, or I shall taunt you a second time.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky         abw@crsa.bu.edu      Chresmology
Boston University                            (cheap rates)
From: rac@calmasd.Prime.COM (Russ Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: The Postman...
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:28:35 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA


   Well in asking a simple question about the postman, I recieved flames
   from anoymonus (sp?) mail senders, telling me not to ask questions
   about non-horror novels!!! Well to me the idea of the end of the world
   scares the shit out of me, after all in The Stand I found the end of 
   the world bit more frighting then Flagg, I also noticed when The Stand
   was being talked about, that I was not the only one who felt this way!
   So I don't really care about the flames, but if your going to do it,
   do it w/ your email address, that way you can hear my oppinion on the
   subject.

   Thank you,
   -[Russ.
From: bmoser@zeus.calpoly.edu (The Vampire (Brett Moser))
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Vampires & Mailing list,any info???.
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:03:17 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

mcspikgfm@dct.ac.uk writes:
>
>
>	Can anyone out there tell me where I might get information on the
>Vampire Mailing list or any information on vamps. I've heard about Alt.Vampire
									^^^
the problem you are having here is that the news group is entitled
Alt.Vampyres (note the y)

there is also a mailing list entitle alt.vampyres, but unfortunately i have
lost the address to which to write inorder to get on it, perhaps someone
else can provide the entire group with it, because i to would like to join
it.

>	To those people that have been saying that there is a wave of hysteria
>over vampires at the moment....I amn't affected by this...because I have liked
>them for over 15 years but I just havent had this opportunity to get
>information on all manner of these lovely creatures. Vampire R.P.G. has some
>very interesting ideas on them.

I too am very fond of vampires, my love for them came about after reading
Anne Rice's Vampire novels.  The way she portrays them, and really all
writers of vampire novels, gives them such a quality of beauty, that i don't
know how people cna not be attracted by them.

Well, anyways enough ramblings for now. :)


>							Melandra Flametree.

-Brett
-- 
"Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
"In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming"
				
bmoser@nike.calpoly.edu                                   I am a Vampire
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Wanted:Complete list of Stephen King novels etc.
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:49:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct6.174235.15787@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
>In article <6912@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>>
>>Novels:"Gerald's Game", "Tommyknockers", "Misery", "Cujo", "Carrie", "Dead
>>Zone", "The Stand", "Needful Things", "Firestarter", "The Shining", "The
>>Talisman" (with Peter Straub), the Gunslinger series (3 books so far), "Cycle
>>of the Werewolf", "Thinner", "The Bachman Books" (both of the last two under
>>Richard Bachman). I know I forgot some novels here, but if you look in the
>>back of a copy of "Gerald's Game", there is a complete list.
>
>Good job, but you need to add "Christine", "The Eyes of the Dragon", "The
>Dark Half", any others?
>
>>Screenplays:"Cat's Eye", "Creepshow", "Silver Bullet" (and as usual there may
>>be others, but I am doing this with no list in front of me).
>
>Not sure, but last I checked I think "The Golden Years" was listed.
>Laurel, not bad from memory.  I'm sure I would have done much worse.
>Mark Harrison           |  "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
>harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."

Thanks, Mark! I knew I would forget some, though (two of which I have read
too)! Another Rush fan on here, too! My favorite Rush album is 2112.

			See you around here!

			Laurel

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Name this movie
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:34:44 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin


#The movie opens with the police investigating the death of an old
#man. The room in which he died was in a rather bizarre state:
#forks and knives stuck into the ceiling and various other articles
#strewn about.

Wasn't the guy's name Carl Raymar? (sp)

I believe this was "One Dark Night," but I'm not sure. One of my
most vivid memories of this film was the girl that always chewed
on a toothbrush (go figure).

#The rest of the movie takes place in a mausoleum and centers around a
#girl being initiated by a sorority. The old geezer has just been buried
#in one of the vaults.  He had apparently been a warlock or wizard in life 
#and his corpse still has tremendous power.

Wasn't he a psychic? 

Yeah, this was an OK movie. Pretty gross decayed corpses, too.


=============================================================
THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
-------------------------------------------------------------
"The killer awoke before dawn, he put his clown shoes on, and
             he ... flopped on down the hall..."
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From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's latest book
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:11:00 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <BvLzvr.LAI@mach1.wlu.ca>, maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
> Has anyone read Stephen King's book "Gerald's Game"?  If you have I'd like
> to know what you thought of it.  Personally, I found it very disturbing and
> could not believe he could imagine such a thing.  Normally I enjoy his
> books, but this one was different from the rest.  Please let me know what
> you thought!
> 
> D. MacIvor =)

Actually, there's already been a good deal of discussion on Gerald's Game, 
though it was awhile back and has probably been deleted from your files.  
But I'll repeat what I said before in the hopes of re-opening the 
discussion...I don't think there's a whole lot to actually *like* about 
King's latest.  Now, that doesn't mean that I didn't appreciate its 
craftsmanship and the risks that King took, but it *was* an extremely 
disturbing plot, and, as you said, quite unlike anything else he's written. 
 I think that's why a lot of the netters didn't like this one much.  King 
doesn't play on tension in the same way with this book--there's not as much 
action as the King fan is normally set up to expect.  I think a lot of this 
work--in fact I consider it one of his most mature pieces to date-- because 
I think he finally took some risks with this story, that he hasn't done in 
while (maybe since the Stand).  For one he finally created a more than two 
dimensional woman.  She wasn't always likable, but then again, who is?  

Andrea @ BVC
>
From: hummell+@pitt.edu (Andrew G Hummell)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Chilly Billy
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:29:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92277.144919TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes:
>In article <8enR7ga00WCZ42pV9G@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Francis J. Yenca"
><fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>>
>>Night of the Living Dead.  His daughter was in one of the sequels.
>
>Yup. I think her name is Lori. She was in Day of the Dead, the one in Florida
>set in the underground base-type thing.  This movie would seem to break the
>'filmed in the Pittsburgh area' mold, but it doesn't.  OK it sorta does. The
>above ground scenes were shot in Florida I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but
>the underground scenes were shot near the 'burgh in an old boat storage place
>or somesuch (please correct me again if I'm wrong).
>
[.sig deleted]

Actually, DotD *was* filmed in the area (in the Irwin area, near my home town).
Some stock footage of Florida was used (and maybe a few outdoor scenes).  The
indoor footage (and most outdoor footage) was filmed at the launch facility
of the Irwin Nike missile site.  In fact, most of the zombies along the fences
were people who lived near me.  (I found out about the filming too late to
be one of the zombies :-(  <sigh>)

Andy
-- 
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  "Character is what you are in the dark."         | Andy Hummell ...that's me 
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Generic Account 1104)
Subject: Re: Peter Straub
Summary: Talisman 
Keywords: none
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:57:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.222557.23335@kpc.com> lewis@kpc.com (Bob Lewis) writes:
>I picked up a few Peter Straub books at a used book sale, Shadowland
>
>Any opinions out there on these two books or any others he has written ?
>
  Ayup! A few years ago I read _The Talisman_, which he cowrote with Stephen
King. It was narley!

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						"Well first you gotta eat
						the peanuts out of my s**t!"
								-- Joker
From: fields@aludra.usc.edu (Canis)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: werewolves and nazis
Summary: more books...
Keywords: werewolves
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:33:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <sprooney.717877258@unix1.tcd.ie> sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>>I noticed a while <well quite a while but anyway> back that there
>>was/is some sort of coupling of nazis and werewolves being worked
>>through in a few readily available works.  I was reminded of this when
>>I saw a reference to McCammon's THE WOLF'S HOUR on an earlier posting.
>>About the same time as it was released <1989> I noticed a couple of
>>others.  One was THE WEREWOLF'S TALE <1988> by Richard Jaccoma and the
>>other escapes me at present.

Another one was THE COMPLEAT WEREWOLF, by Anthony Boucher, I believe.
The sequel to THE WEREWOLF'S TALE - THE WEREWOLF'S REVENGE - is set
directly in World War II.

More later.

					-Lanny.


Lanny Fields
fields@aludra.usc.edu
Canis

"Where there's a werewolf, there's a way..."
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: King's latest book
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:11:50 GMT

Has anyone read Stephen King's book "Gerald's Game"?  If you have I'd like
to know what you thought of it.  Personally, I found it very disturbing and
could not believe he could imagine such a thing.  Normally I enjoy his
books, but this one was different from the rest.  Please let me know what
you thought!

D. MacIvor =)
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Shadows of Cthuhlu./conspiracy theory
Date: 5 Oct 1992 07:12:59 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > And for conspiracy theory, the *best* book is Umberto Ecos 
 > "Fucoults Pendulum" (spelling?). A truly FAB ending.

"Foucault's Pendulum".  Like most of Eco's work, a truly great book.
This particular one ties in almost every bit of arcane occult lore you
can think of with the Knights Templar and almost everything else, into
one great big conspiracy theory to top all conspiracy theories.  But it's
the ending that clinches it.  It would be a shame to explain the ending
here, since it's a real mind-boggler.  But I recommend it to everybody.
If you've ever studied the occult, it there are more than a few amusing
ribs in there, too.
From: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Cthuhlu ?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 01:40:49 GMT
Organization: Vampire Research Group at Berkeley :)
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <Bv9x2G.99K@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>Now w.r.to the Cthuhlu mythos. Why coin the term Cthuhlu. This 
>represents, to my recollection, very little of the mythos. 
>Cthuhlu was a creature from an elder race (a Great Old one I think),
>however, the greatest danger, most often spoken of, was that from
>hidden realms, locked away from our world. These realms contained
>the Elder gods. Creatures so malevolent, that should they gain entry
>to our world, they would destroy all life! Cthuhlu, on the other
>hand was imprisoned under the sea in the city of Rhyllyeh (scuse the
>spelling). It also managed to escape but was thwarted by a ship.

   Half the reason for "Cthulhu Mythos" is that "The Call of Cthulhu" was
the first story where the mythos becomes more or less explicit. According
to de Camp's biography of Lovecraft, tho, HPL didn't use "Cthulhu Mythos"
that much (another thing to blame on Derleth???). He prefered, if memory
serves, "Yog-Sothothery" (see below).


>Yog Sothoth for president. He'll consume all other evils.
>Mark.
   HERETIC! :)
	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
	larval physicist
	VP, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu (Berkeley)
THE STARS ARE RIGHT: CTHULHU IN '92! WHY SETTLE FOR THE LESSER EVIL?
-- 
"Some savages are persuaded by the 'natural light' that it is their duty to
 eat people, and even Voltaire's savages, who are led by the voice of reason
 to hold that one should only eat Jesuits, are not wholly satisfactory."
-Bertrand Russell on Rousseau in _A History of Western Philosophy_, p. 694
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: jbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James S Brown)
Subject: Chilly Billy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:49:26 GMT

'Scuse me if this already got posted, but I wrote this query the other day and 
my friend was messing with the other extension of the phone and I got cut 
off--I don't think the article would have been posted, but I really don't know 
a damned thing about computers.  Anyhow . . .

Anybody else out there grow up watching Chilly Billy every weekend on WIIC (now
WPXI), channel 11 out of Pittsburgh?  I remember seeing *Return of the Creature
from the Black Lagoon* and *Murders in the Rue Morgue* when I was a wee lad.  
And *The Crawling Eye*, which gave me nightmares for weeks, but I had to suffer
them in silence, because I was afraid to tell my mom I had watched the movie 
after she told me not to.  She told me it would give me nightmares.  Go figure.

So whatever happened to Bill Cardille?  You non-Pittsburghers may remember him 
as the newsman in the old *Night of the Living Dead*, the guy who asks the 
sherriff if the zombies are fast-moving (reply:  "Well, they ARE dead . . . ").
Just a little nostalgia wave there; remember what it was like to be really 
scared by stuff like the crawling eye?  Maybe I was just easy.
-- 
Jim Brown [jbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu]
OSU English Dept.
Columbus, OH  43210                 Like Woody sez:  Take it easy--but take it.
614-292-6065
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 19:10:21 -0400 
From: Peter Jason Ward <pw2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Shadows of Cthuhlu./conspiracy theory

I gotta agree, Foucault's Pendulum was a tiresome read, but the ending
made it all worthwhile.   For those of you who haven't, do.
                                                     Peter  Ward
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part XIII
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:10:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.170930.24008@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
>Subject: Friday the 13th part XIII
>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:09:30 GMT

>Being a big fan of the Friday the 13th films, I was glad when I saw thy
>were making a part nine.  But, I still don't understand the end of part
>8.  Anybody figure it out?  I saw the actor (Kane Hodder, maybe?) at a
>horror convention a while ago and he said he had watched the film 3 times
>and _he_ didn't understand the ending either.  Anybody???

Hi,

	Good to hear from a Friday fan.  I got confused and disappointed by 
part 8.  The movie was stupid, so was Jason.  But part IX will take where 
part VII left.  So, try to forget about part 8.  It'll be hard I know. :)
But they (the producers) promised something BIG.  Something that will be "
The Academy Award Winner of horror movies", according to the producer.  I 
can't remember his name.  I have to find that magazine....