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From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: whaddya call this?
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:38:49 GMT

Someone was mentioning their terrific "swellbow" the other day which sounded  
like a lot of fun, so I went out and tried some new tricks but I couldn't get  
one.  I did, however, get a bashed shin which grew a lump right under the cut  
which looked like half of a large egg under my skin.  Whoever comes up with a  
funny word which makes my painful bruise sound cool will win a free set of  
used rails and 3/4 inch risers.  (Heh.)

michael@monitor.com
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: tleightonboyce@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tim Leighton-boyce)
Subject: David and Raving UK
Reply-To: tleightonboyce@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:35:00 +0000

I've just discovered this newsgroup, and you've no idea how stoked I
am. It's so interesting to hear anything from skaters outside of the
Californian establishment.
The earlier messages from David in Edinburgh are no longer available, 
so can someone bring me up to date? Is he looking for equipment or
contacts? Doesn't he know of any skaters in Edinburgh? I've mailed
him but have had no reply yet.
It's easy to hook up with skaters in Edinburgh: the main street spot
is Bristow Square. Otherwise you can always go through to Glasgow, to 
Clan Skate shop there, or, of course, Livingston skatepark, which is
about the best bit of concrete in Britain.
Also...
On the subject of skaters and raving. Don't believe all you read on
the subject. The new Big Brother, for example claims that the latest
R.a.D Mag (UK skate mag with very hardcore techno musician as
designer) Reader Survey says that raving is out in UK. Where they got 
that from I do not know: no results have yet been published, and I
very much doubt if they will support that claim.
 
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: mcoffin@reed.edu (Miguel De Laguna)
Subject: Re: whaddya call this?
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:44:43 GMT

> ... I did, however, get a bashed shin which grew a lump right under the cut  
>which looked like half of a large egg under my skin.  Whoever comes up with a  
>funny word which makes my painful bruise sound cool will win a free set of  
>used rails and 3/4 inch risers.  (Heh.)
>
>michael@monitor.com

I like "shin-divits".

	Miguel
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: fjt@well.sf.ca.us (Frederick John Truck)
Subject: this island earth
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:18:44 GMT


Joro--from your posting, it is not clear to me whether you
have an application that performs algorithmic calculations,
or wehther you have a selection of tools. Please clarify.
Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: Where's the ART?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:08:03 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Dec30.130128.17917@panix.com> jak@panix.com (Jack Krueger) writes:


>HEY! Where is everyone? Did the art world STOP? Is it true that art and
>holidays can not exist in the same time and space?



     it is comin'...

will post a bunch of stuff to this space soon...


     been weak like a veal due to holidaze horror in new yuck city
(but watch this space come the end 'o this horror-day season !).


Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: "this island earth"
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:18:55 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

>i don't write my own complilation software -- alas i used packaged
>C language and Pascal compilers to fashion code...

   what i mean is -- i don't write a custom compiler...

in the macintosh environemnt (where i most commonly work) i use the
THINK Lightspeed C and Pascal compilers and sometimes switch over to
Apple's own MPW...

   i write customized animation code (simple stuff using toolbox
calls)...

it is my own code (to the extent that i make use of the macinstosh
toolbox [when programming for mac]; dos libraries when programming for
PC ect.)...

   but i draw the line at attempting to develop my own compiler (-:.



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From: jak@panix.com (Jack Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Where's the ART?
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:01:28 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC


HEY! Where is everyone? Did the art world STOP? Is it true that art and
holidays can not exist in the same time and space?

Is there another nn group where 'art' stuff is being communicated, which
may not be at my site? alt.artcom is the only one here. Ya, sure if you
want to read a lot of stuff about ID numbers and phony stuff one can
always go to the cyber NNs. Unfortunatly not much art there. Sigh, guess
the only artists with computers are online from .EDs. And they have all
gone home to see their moms. <g>

Jack
Jack A. Krueger
jak@panix.com
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: "this island earth"
Keywords: metaluna mutant
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:04:01 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


have recently begun a new project that pays homage imagery derived
from the 1950's sci-fi motion picture classic:

                       "this island earth"

     i am attempting to perfect a technique whereby making use of
conventional drawing methods (paper, coloring pencils, inks, paints,
etc.) to create images which are then brought into the computer
(i.e. by way of customized video digitizing routines)...

once inside the computer environment i can perform all kinds 'o
algorithmic calculations on these hand-drawn images, allowing for
the following:

     (1) user interaction -- users can manipulate what they see on
screen. users can get "literal" instantaneous feedback by way of
small hand-held control devices that facilitate changes to the
images presented on-screen.

     (2) randomization -- the ability to mix up bits and pieces of
images in such a way as to almost never present the same exact image
on-screen twice.

the result is an animated painting of sorts -- that is both user
interactive and "alive" ("alive," in that parts of the image change
randomly producing a never ending variety of "patterns").
From: root@brill.lira.lt.su
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: concerts of lithuanian performers
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: root@brill.lira.lt.su
Organization: unknown

Hi!
We are looking for possibilities to organise concerts of lithuanian performers
in W. countries. There are wide range of highest level artists expierenced
in variuos international competitions. Short list of them is added below.
Nevertheless we still meet a problem to organise quite fulfiled trafic of
concerts abroad. We invite any organisation or personality to colaborate
with us.
``````````````````````````````
Partialy, chamber quorus "Cantemus" was invited to give a concert in
Berliner Philharmonie (Kammermusiksaal) in February 7, 1993. Due to some
changes in our schedula they still have some free positions for concerts
around this date. If somebody is interested in it let us know, please, as
soon as possible. Any help would be appreciated.
```````````````````````````````
Chamber chorus "Cantemus" was founded in 1986, has taken part in many
competitions: International Competition of B. Bartok in Debrecen (Ungarn) -
second prise, 1988; International Competition in Tallin (Estonia) third prise,
1988; in Tours (Frankreich) - 1st and 3d prises, 1989; in Tolosa (Spain) - 2d
and 3d prices, 1989; in Arezzo (Italy) 2d price, 1990; in Tallin (Estonia) -
3d price, 1991; and finaly, 2d and 3d prices in Goricia (Italy), XXXI concorrso
intenaz di canto corale "CA SEGHIZZII", 1992. Chief conducter is Mr. Vakaris
Lopas.
`````````````````````````````
SHORT list of performers we suggest:

Chamber chorus "Cantemus" (cnd. Vakaris Lopas)
Kaunas String Quartet
prof. Leopoldas Digrys (organ)
Bernardas Vasiliauskas (organ)
Andrius Vasiliauskas (piano)
Arunas Slaustas (piano, clavesino)
Sergej Okrusko (piano)
Petras Vysniauskas (saxophono)
Kestutis Kacinskas (carrilon)
A. Slaustas & P. Vysniauskas (jazz dueto)
Ala Bendoraitiene (piano) & Povilas Radziukynas (flauto)
"Vydraga" (ansamble of lithuanian folk music)

More detailed infomation on your request.
Thank You.
Algirdas.
From: hologram@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Excerpt from "Lisette"
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 04:06:43 PST
Reply-To: hologram@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Excerpt from RLisette"
                     
                                                       
My Lisette, where are we coming ?
You and I so innumerable, falling from the sky.....                       
 
.....Perhaps the sirens have announced
Darkened  clouds of becoming. 
When the funnel touches down, 
a person emerges, 
arms outstretched,
Dancing amid continuous bombardment
To cut a crevice between the day 
and its usual meaning,
(As if it needed one). 
We shed our faith like a cocoon.
So many loves compacted,
Looking at a shining apple, not quite ripe. 
                         
                              
Roknich                                                                   
1992


                                                     

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Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: KOH@mindlink.bc.ca (Kenneth O'Heskin)
Subject: Re: "this island earth"
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:19:55 GMT


>     (1) user interaction -- users can manipulate what they see on
>screen. users can get "literal" instantaneous feedback by way of
>small hand-held control devices that facilitate changes to the
>images presented on-screen.
   [...and...]
>i.e. the mouth and eyes change, blood gushes outta the mutant's semi
>exposed veins, etc.

        What sort of devices are these, off-the-shelf or home
        brewed?  I'm using photo resistors for image/text
        manipulation; not "interactive" in terms of individual
        users-- don't think I'm ready to let them torment any
        mutants or the art ;) --but responsive to environmental
        light levels. Low tech. However, current installation
        will be the last based on cadium sulphide.


        Re: _This Island Earth_

        Did the mutants get a fair shake?  The Metalunians giant
        foreheads, signifying advanced evolution, did not jibe
        with the fact the mutants have even more massive heads
        --yet they were treated as brute insect-animals. Obviously
        a product of 1950's xenophobia. If the mutants controlled
        that planet it mayn't have been convulsed by wars and
        environmental disasters. Just a thought.

        Are you using captured frames (and if so what about rights,
        lawyers, heat, etc.?) or hand-drawn renderings?

        I'd like to try something based on _Fiend Without A Face_
        sometime.

        -koh
--

        .  kenneth o'heskin              .  art of programming bbs
               . . . .                   .  (604) 826-9663 24/hr 2400 8n1
        .  koh@mindlink.bc.ca            .  grafix.midi.800+ forth files.

Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: jak@panix.com (Jack Krueger)
Subject: Christmas Blues (WBAI, radio)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:40:22 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

Dec. 26th at 3:00AM

x-mas day's nite (sat. @ 3 a.m.) Frederick Geobold interviews and plays the
music of Mitch Kess and Justin Scanlon.     

BTW: Since I'm posting this for Mitch, I thought that I should let ya all
kn ow that his idea is to get on the show to play his music AND really to
talk about his new cyber musical. WOW! Anything to get the art online.
From: CS.LRM@forsythe.stanford.edu (Luis Mejia)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: VARGA for sale
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:01:18 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

VARGA for sale

Title: FIRST LOVE
Medium: 14 color continuous tone lithograph
Edition No.: 39/200
Year 1986

Replacement Value: $12,000
Asking Price: $9,750

"First Love" was the first Varga Girl published in Esquire in
October 1940.  Esquire Varga Girls accompanied G.I.'s in battle in
WWII.  Original painting courtesy of the Esquire Collection, Spencer
Museum of Art, The University of Kansas.

For Certificate of Authenticity and additional information call:

Ruben Mejia
(916) 573-1610
From: hologram@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: A Fuckn Poem
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 04:05:46 PST
Reply-To: hologram@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

 A Fuckn' Poem
                        
                                 
 He gave her a quick wink and left..
 Remembering the nightstand he imagined
 During the final song of her striptease
 A $50 bill peeked from 
 Under the china saucer
 She sipped her cognac 
 Zipped up his pants wet liquor
 Of her lips sent him out the door
 Dreaming of wealth and how 
 He distanced himself, (as if it mattered).
 Dreaming the nightstand and
 The imaginary fucking she gave. 
 She pulled them tighter into her
 He slid the dollar bill under
 The catsup bottle wondering
 Did the waittress catch him dreaming?
 She winked.
                                                
                                    T92  
                                    Roknich
                                                      

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From: melynda@titipu.resun.com (Melynda Reid)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: not all netlings are young folks from edu sites
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 21:13:53 EST(-0500)
Organization: Paleolithic Refugia
Reply-To: melynda@titipu.resun.com (Melynda Reid)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

i saw a plaintive cry for an article on art on alt.art.com. i am a
middle-aged artist on a com. site, my husband's old hand-me down
macplus. i have not posted much on the net lately because i am not
comfortable typing on a keyboard.

i have been trying to track down a source for a pen which would write
five evenly spaced lines at once. i use a gravity feed fountain pen for
writing poetry and prose and notes on scientific texts. i am wanting to
draw staves for composing music interlocked with drawings. i want the
staves to be curved not always straight.

i have been experimenting with composing music by drawing lines found in
nature atop staves. one morning i drew in a folding book the track of a
serpent crossing the dirt road. i then added three haiku to the staves.
i added drawings of leaves and birds which left their imprints in the
sand to the staves. i looked at what i had done and wanted the staves
themselves to arc and dive in a serpentine line. 

i have called music stores and suppliers in all sorts of places. years
ago people drew their own manuscript paper. as a child i remember
seeing pens to draw staves. i have tried taping five pens together to
draw curved lines. the results are horrible. 

does anyone know where i might obtain such a pen ? or how i might make
a pen nib or device that will work ? i am really obsessed with drawing
music right now.
                               melynda claire reid

melynda reid   who wears hats but does not type caps
  eel:   melynda@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!melynda
  snail: p o box 378 greensboro, florida 32330
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: Hello from Me
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:41:33 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <1992Dec21.225319.8642@netcom.com> ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook) writes:

>joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen) wrote:
>>
>>gonna make it a goal in the comin' year to do my part to help make this
>>newsgroup come to up to speed with some of the neat stuff i've seen talked
>>about in the same space on the WELL...

>does this mean you're going to be logging in from your blimp?

>i!


no... no...

    that's the col. fjt...


he's the guy in the blimp !


Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: melynda@titipu.resun.com (Melynda Reid)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: on stave drawing in the wilds
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 11:31:46 EST(-0500)
Organization: Paleolithic Refugia
Reply-To: melynda@titipu.resun.com (Melynda Reid)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

i forgot to make explicit that i draw in the wilds, far from electrical outlets
and computers. sometimes i am working by hanging from a tree overlooking a
swift flowing river. othertimes i am stuck in muck in a swamp with snakes
circling my snakeboots as i draw.

i have used a mac to draw curved staves when i am caught indoors. i draw one
curved line and then specify vertical distance to reiterate that curve to
create five lines. the results lack the interior resonance of how such lines
blend when drawn by five points held together. using a mac confines me to the
indoors and it restricts my use of papers.

i am using a wide variety of papers including papers made from scraps i mash
into funny shapes myself. thus i am trying to find ways of creating five lines
in the field with a hand held stylus or contraption of some sort.

the music i am drawing is handed over to a composer and musician ray brooks. he
is adding time notations and instrumentation. it is a method of composing which
resembles a game of ping pong or tennis. i do something. he adds a twist. i up
the ante. eventually our compositions will be performed with me doing my comic
banter and slap stick introductions to our music. we have composed music together
before using a different method of composition. i would write a poem or phrase
and he would analyse its inflections and intonations to build a melody. we
did a review entitled nothing contrary to science or nature with songs written
that way. but now we want to try a more visual approach, bypassing verbal
patterns to generate melodies and rhythms found by looking at nature. we have
no idea what we will come up with. 
      i appreciate the e-mail replies to my last posting. i will let you all
      know when i find a pen or technical solution which works. and i will
      reply privately to all the folks who have written me.
                       melynda claire reid

melynda reid   who wears hats but does not type caps
  eel:   melynda@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!melynda
  snail: p o box 378 greensboro, florida 32330
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook)
Subject: Re: Hello from Me
Summary: oh yeah?
Organization: Shonen Knife Fan Club
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:53:19 GMT

joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen) wrote:
>
>gonna make it a goal in the comin' year to do my part to help make this
>newsgroup come to up to speed with some of the neat stuff i've seen talked
>about in the same space on the WELL...

does this mean you're going to be logging in from your blimp?

i!
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: "this island earth"
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:31:56 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: metaluna mutant

In <1993Jan1.220401.13975@panix.com> joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen) writes:


>have recently begun a new project that pays homage imagery derived
>from the 1950's sci-fi motion picture classic:

>                       "this island earth"


     the technique i describe in the previous response (i.e. the use
of hand-drawn, penciled and inked, etc. images -- digitized into the
computer environment where they are "animated" under user control)...

... the set of images i am currently working with come from the film:

                        "this island earth"

     ... in the piece, users can manipulate a painting of the movie's:

                          metaluna mutant

... opening and closing the creatures lil' claws by way of a small hand
held control device...

     ... additional parts 'o the mutant creature "animate" at random...

i.e. the mouth and eyes change, blood gushes outta the mutant's semi
exposed veins, etc.

     a most neat (while at the same time revolting (-:) sci-fi movie
image 'o the mid 1950's.



Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Subject: Re: this island earth
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:06:08 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <C08qz9.IsH@well.sf.ca.us> fjt@well.sf.ca.us (Frederick John Truck) writes:


>Joro--from your posting, it is not clear to me whether you
>have an application that performs algorithmic calculations,
>or wehther you have a selection of tools. Please clarify.
>Thanks.


     "algorithmic calculations"

kinda both... i use my own digitizing routines to get the images into
the computer (nothing all that sophisticated -- just grabbing bit-maps
using routines from the c-language tool kit that comes packagaed with
the video capture hardware board i use)...

     i capture all images at 8-bit color depth (keeping the files to
8-bit depth allows to remain small enough in data size so as to be quickly
and easily manipulable)...

... alas i do calculate an optimum color palette (thus the images appear
of fairly decent quality -- despite their limit to 256 colors)...

once inside the computer (and displayed from within a custom application)
i can do all kinds 'o stuff to 'em...

    i have written a library of graphics and animations routines (in both
C and Pascal) that includes functions and procedures i frequently call
upon (allowing for a increasing collection of custom effects).
From: joro@panix.com (Joe Rosen)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: Re: not all netlings are young folks from edu sites
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:13:50 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <01010064.mfgcgc@yumyum.resun.com> melynda@titipu.resun.com (Melynda Reid) writes:


>does anyone know where i might obtain such a pen ? or how i might make
>a pen nib or device that will work ? i am really obsessed with drawing
>music right now.
>                               melynda claire reid


cool...

     what a neat concept...

alas... there must be a way ya can fashion such a pen on your
own (i.e. some system better than what ya have tried -- taping
several pens together)...

     have ya tried putting some more serious thought into the
design of such a pen ?

sorry, i haven't seen any such device -- but i would imagine
there to be some way you could design and perhaps find someone
to build a tool like this...


     meanwhile... ya say ya use a macintosh plus in your original
response...

have ya considered a computer drawing program to help ya with
this task ?

     sounds like something like adobe illustrator would be perfect
for drawing these multiple curved stave lines you describe.
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