HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jjf@byron.u.washington.edu (Matthew Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: amiga waned
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:24:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov19.202423.29588
Reply-To: jjf@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Wanted: Amiga 1000 or 500 CHEAP... call Matt at 206-632-9503... thanks
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:9070 misc.forsale.computers:41011
From: sullivk@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Kevin Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: C-Ltd. SCSI host/controller board for Amiga 1000 For Sale
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:28:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Nov20.142834.13428
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

C-Ltd. SCSI host/controller board for Amiga 1000  -- $50.00 + s&h

Comes complete with SCSI-DOS 3.0 software.  The beautiful thing about
this board is that it's cheap and it works. I bought it direct from C-Ltd just
before they quit business.  Sorry, no manual.  If interested please respond
via e-mail.

Kevin Sullivan
sullivk@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
(503)752-5219
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Amiga Software for sale **CHEAP**
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 22 Nov 92 13:38:08 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces


I have the folowing AMIGA software forsale. All the packages contain
original disks and manuals.

Deluxe Paint III (V3.21; 2.0 compat)     $27

Amiga Vision (Multi-media software)      $27

Dos-2-Dos (Read/write to IBM disks)      $11

Faccii II (Floppy disk caching prg)      $10


These prices INCLUDE shipping and handling via UPS to the continental
U.S. I can ship C.O.D, but that is extra. Please e-mail me if you are
interested. These packages will go fast, so please hurry if you want
them.

-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: c9c-ez@po.berkeley.edu (Patrick Horio)
Subject: CANNON BJ-10ex INK JET PRINTER FOR SALE - $250 !!!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:07:37 GMT


For Sale:

Cannon BJ-10ex Bubble Jet Printer

	360 dpi laser-quality printing
	Box and all manuals,etc. in perfect condition

	only $250 !!!!

I'll negotiate shipping/handling charges (we could split it) with the buyer.
If you are interested, please e-mail me back or call met at:

(510)643-2120

Thanx for your interest ...


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: "mietek peczko" <mietek.peczko@canrem.com>
Subject: wanted: ram for amiga500
Reply-To: "mietek peczko" <mietek.peczko@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:22:15 EST

I am looking for external RAM expansion for Amiga 500, SupraRAM RX or
XP, or Golden Image system. Will pay shipping. If interested, I am
willing to trade in EPSON EX 1000, wide carriage printer, excellent
like-new condition, if you live in Torinto area. My phone number is:
 (416)-855-9579 (home) , Toronto,Ontario.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: Ric_Ocasik@amwbbs.rain.com (Ric Ocasik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: A 2000HD for sale
Date: 14 Nov 92 22:11:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: amwbbs.Ric_Ocasik.01ax
Distribution: world
Organization: The Amiga Connection BBS (503)667-5852


 I have the following sys for sale; 

A2000HD -*- 2.04 -*- 7megs -*- Supra external drive -*- Supra int modem -*-

GVP 8-UP board with 6 megs on it
A2000HD with keyboard/mouse
Supra external drive (quiet)
Supra internal modem (2400zi)
1084S stereo monitor (nice styled one)

                                       First 900-850 takes..
Leave mail here, or call (503)669-7770

-- Via DLG Pro v0.985b
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:45:22 EST
From: Erik Rubin <EJR106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Quantum 80meg TRADE

   I recently finished a pretty big upgrade on my  PC, and one of the things
I took out of it was a Quantum 80 MEG IDE hard drive.
   I have an A1000 at home that I would like to fire up again, but I have
no monitor.  Since I think that the hard drive is worth between $170 and $200,
it seems like a reasonable deal to trade a monitor (1084 style) for this
still funtional hard drive.
   So if anyone wants a hard drive, and has an extra monitor around, please
give me a reply.  Thanks.
  -- Erik

  PS there is nothing wrong with the hard drive; it was just replaced by
     something bigger.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: **1960**   **WANTED*** 
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:54:00 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I am looking for a USED Commodore 1960 Multi-sync monitor. I must be
in top-notch condition. Please e-mail me if yoiu have such an item!

-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman
From: Ric_Ocasik@amwbbs.rain.com (Ric Ocasik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Re: Wanted:  CHEAP A2000
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:34:38 PST
Organization: The Amiga Connection BBS (503)667-5852

 RK> would like to pay less that $300 if possible.  If I get a price for
 RK> less that
 RK> $300, or close to $300, I would prefer the A2000.  Otherwise, its the
 RK> good ole
 RK> A500.


             If you can find a 2000 for 300 or LESS let me know, 
             I could make a killing by reselling me. (get real)

-- Via DLG Pro v0.985b
From: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: amigavision for sale
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:18:59 EST
Reply-To: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

I have an older version of AmigaVision for sale.  Brand New (still in
shrink wrap!)  $40.00.  -jeff

jeff.ruck@channel1.com
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: jjf@byron.u.washington.edu (Matthew Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: Amiga 1000 STUFF wanted
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:40:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov23.154051.23596
Reply-To: jjf@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

WANTED: Commodre 1080 monitor.  Must be in GOOD condition. Will pay $100 and shipping.

ALSO WANTED: Kwikstart board that will allow me to put 1.3 and 2.0 ROMS in my amiga 1000 and swith between the two... i don;'t need the ROMS (unless you offer a screaming deal with both installed)... make me an offer if you are selling one! thanks!
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.reviews:98 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:19645
From: amiga-reviews@math.uh.edu (comp.sys.amiga.reviews moderator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.reviews,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: WANTED: Review of PP&S 68040 board for Amiga 500
Summary: Looking for a volunteer to write a review
Keywords: wanted, request, volunteer
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:27:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1e70u8INNq6p
Reply-To: amiga-reviews@math.uh.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: The Amiga Online Review Column - ed. Daniel Barrett
NNTP-Posting-Host: karazm.math.uh.edu


	As moderator of comp.sys.amiga.reviews, I have received several
requests for a review of:

		Progressive Peripherals 68040 board for the Amiga 500

Unfortunately, nobody has written one for c.s.a.reviews yet; so, I am looking
for a volunteer to write a review or mini-review of this product.

	If you need information about writing a review, read the introductory
articles posted in comp.sys.amiga.reviews on the first day of every month
(they have a long expiration date, so they should always be available on your
site) or send mail to amiga-reviews-requests@math.uh.edu asking for
guidelines.

	Thanks!!

---

   Daniel Barrett, Moderator, comp.sys.amiga.reviews
   Send reviews to:	amiga-reviews-submissions@math.uh.edu
   Request information:	amiga-reviews-requests@math.uh.edu
   General discussion:	amiga-reviews@math.uh.edu
From: leeuw@fwi.uva.nl (Jacco de Leeuw)
Subject: Dealer screws up: handscanner s/w sought!
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:48:09 GMT

A friend of mine asked me to post the following.

Some weeks ago he bought a Pandaal handscanner at the Koln CSS Amiga show.
The guy at the booth said they would send him the new software (called 
Daatascan 3.0) when he filled in the registration card. He gave them the
card, which saved him a stamp.

After a while, he still hadn't received the software. He called them but
they plainly denied that they had received his registration card. He offered
to send a photo-copy of the other halve of the card he still had. They
said that was not possible. 

Of course, my friend got very annoyed. This is not a nice way to treat your
customers! He's definately in a dead-end, he needs the software (the old 
software does not work or has bugs, I don't know for sure), but they just
won't cooperate...


Is there someone who has got this new software (Daatascan 3.0) for my friend?


Please, don't get me wrong. I'm not asking for pirated software. I just think
my friend is *entitled* to this software. After all, he has paid for it.
(Besides, what good is the software without the hardware...)

If you want any proof of purchase, that's OK. (Serial number, words from
the manual, whatever).

Thanks!!!

Jacco

-- 
Jacco de Leeuw           | Dpt. of Computer Science | Email: leeuw@fwi.uva.nl
J.C. van Wessemstr. 54   | University of Amsterdam. | Fidonet: 2:512/47.347
1501 VM Zaandam, Holland <-Phone: +31-(0)75-352068  | Evel lednewZ!
Disclaimer: I don't speak for my Amiga; it has its own narrator.device...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:28:04 EST
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
 <1992Nov18.133139.21744@ifi.unizh.ch> <92323.182614BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Nov19.142226.27864@sophia.smith.edu> <92324.160932BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92324.160932BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>, Blaise Tarr
<BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu> says:

>In article <1992Nov19.142226.27864@sophia.smith.edu>, (John Fieber) says:
>>
>>Sure, I can now use MEMF_PUBLIC when I allocate that memory but
>>that still leaves about 99% of current programs that would fall
>>flat on their face.

>Why?  Is the MEMF_PUBLIC flag new to 2.0?  (I don't have the 1.3 RKRMs with
>me)

It's been around since 1.0, but older RKMs didn't really explain what it
meant. A lot of programmers assumed it meant "give me any type of memory".
From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Date: 22 Nov 92 07:53:00 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
NNTP-Posting-Host: faatcrl.faa.gov

jas54553@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry A. Segler Jr.) writes:

>5 people chip in to buy that new game or whatever... Under most people's
>definition that is Piracy but each person believes they are "morally" correct 
>since they did pay for the program (at least partially)...

>Is this Piracy? And if so who gets set to jail all 5 or an arbitrary 4 of the
>5? Also what was stolen?

  Depends.  Is the program being treated like a book where only one person of
the group is using it at any given time?

  If they are, then according to Borland's licensing policy, it's ok.

  If more than one copy is in use at any given moment then they are using it
illegally.

  -jack-
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20:22:36 EST
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:

> Quoth rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy):
> ]> 
> ]> Piracy _is not_ theft.
> 
> Waitaminnit, waitaminnit, I came into this late!  Let's see if I have this
> straight:
> 
>   You have this boat, um, with a crew and some weapons.  You locate a boat
>   that you have outgunned, board it, and take the ower/passenger's belongngs
>   without thier permision.  Or, in short, you steal it from them.
> 
> Gee, Elroy, sounds like piracy IS theft!
> 
> [ Once again, after righting wrongs, our hero sets forth for the sunset...]
> 
> -- 
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@***********************************************
> Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]          * fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
> jeff_grimmett@f1401.n202.z1.fidonet.org  * jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
>  The opinions expressed in this message are thoughtful, reasoned, and logical
>       	It goes without saying that they are not those of my employer.
> *****************************************************************************

ARGH!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: 1200X800 resolution on A4000/1200?????
From: brycerw@brandonu.ca
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:16:59 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Just read the entry in sys.amiga.announce regarding Commodore at COMDEX.  Had
the general, expected hyping about the AGA chipset again.  Noticed something
different there...resolutions up to 1200X800!!!  I thought the top was 800X600
or 1200X400 (X512 PAL).  In fact I remember a lot of people (including me)
complaining about missing resolutions - like 1024X768 or 1200X800 - when the
A4000 was released!

Is this a typo?  Did I read incorrectly?  Or is 1200X800 for real?

Also, I'm always running my A3000 with the deinterlace thing on.  I find all the
interlaced modes unusable without it - I'm at my computer ~8 hours a day. I've
got a 1950 model monitor.  What is the highest usable (deinterlaced) resolution
on the A4000?  Would a better monitor (like Sony) produce a better, more
stable display with interlaced modes?  If 1200X800 is stable on some monitors,
I'd like a larger monitor than the 1950, to properly take advantage of the
higher resolution.  What monitors would fit the bill?

--Rob
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:16875 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:29164
From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMOS
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:07:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) says:

>And yes, it's as badly behaved as all AMOS programs. Fortunately, it's
Unless you have used ALL AMOS programs in the world, I don't think this is a
valid statement.  

Mike
-- 
Okay, look for AmoNER #5 on: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59) in /amiga/amoner
nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) in /pub/amiga/programming/amos
Je suis venu ici pour macher du chewing-gum et pour botter des fesses.
Et maintenant, je n'ai plus de chewing-gum . . .
From: disk@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Diskraker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: FEDERATION AGAINST STEFAN BOBERG (& other pirate stuff)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 20:54:32 EST
Reply-To: disk@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Diskraker)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious) writes:

> eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:
> 
> >In article <BxIAnw.78I@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.e
> 
> > > Note that this is the "slogan" used by many cracking groups, such as
> > > Quartex.  They ENCOURAGE you to buy the game after you play it.  I
> > > suppose their philosophy is that you should get a chance to see what
> > > you're paying for.
> 
> >Nope, their philosophy is CYA (Cover You Ass).  They seem to think that they
> >in less trouble if they get caught, with a slogan like that.  BTW, it's a LO
> >time since Quartex ever wrote that...  But other groups are doing it.
> 
> Nope, try again. It's because a lot of the games appearing now are being writ
> by crews, or people that were once in a crew. It's a different thing when you
> friend (ie people you know) are gettign hurt, etc..)
> --
> These are my personal views and do not reflect those of Melbourne University.
> Anything I may say that may be deemed offensive and/or damaging should NOT
> be redirected to administration, as they have had nothing to do with it. 
> Please direct any/all complaints/enquiries to thecure@ee.mu.oz.au


Forgive me for my stupidity, but since my news site never got the first 
post of this, why is it titled "...Stefan Boberg?!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Piracy
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:54:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

c1a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Oliver Erik Seiler) writes:

>rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:
>> You want a better equasion?!
>> 
>> Software Piracy = Shoplifting

>Actually this isn't true. Software piracy creates two copies of a a program
>where only one existed before. Shoplifting doesn't create anything.

>Software piracy also doesn't affect shopowners in the same way as shoplifting
>because the software is still on their shelves...

Yes, but it affects the developers.  $5-$20 of software cost is the packaging,
distribution disks, manuals (largest part), shipping, etcetera.  The rest is
not profit.  Still more cost comes from paying the people who design, code,
test, recode, and maintain the code.  There's not a lot of room left for profit
before shopowners get to mark it up so *they* can make some money on it.  What
you're paying for when you buy software is for the company to continue
developing software for your platform.  When you stop supporting them by free-
loading off their hard work, you're deciding you don't care if anyone writes
anything more than PD software for your platform, and good as Amiga freeware and
PD are, there's no Professional Calc, PageStream, ADPro, or SAS/C there, just to
name a few.  There's no Armour-geddon, 4d-boxing, Lemmings, or James Pond in the
PD.  Do you want to see Amiga software stop here, where it is?  WordPerfect has
already left, and they're *used* to piracy.  They weren't getting enough
support.

>\  Oliver Seiler  /\  \    /  /      _                              |||||
> \               /  \  \  /  /      /o\__   <--- My dream car...    (o o)
>  \             /    \  \/  /_______-O--O'_____                      \^
>   \_Insomniak_/      \_c1a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca_/                     _| |_
-- 

Wulf                    |"Hackers do it bit by bit -
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu | programmers do it top-down!"
From: cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Have Nintendo bought Commodore Amiga ???
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:33:49 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

staferne@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Stefan Taferner) writes:
: In article <1992Nov10.122548.26728@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilg@cee.hw.ac.uk (Neil MG Gall) writes:
: > I've heard a rumour that Nintendo have bought Commodore Amiga.
: > Does anybody elso know about this ?
: >
: > - Neil
: 
: Short: forget it !
: 
: Stefan

HA HA - April Fool.....
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga 1200 Released at Comdex
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:32:25 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <1992Nov19.142318.5819@sctc.com> beede@sctc.com (Mike Beede) writes:
>sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:
>
>I take it that ``high speed, 32-bit'' without mention of a specific
>processor is market-speak for ``68000''?

   It's a 14MHz 68020 (680EC020, actually). Weird that they left out so many 
specifics, however.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gregg Giles (Dynamix, Inc.)                       Willy Beamish Development Team
All opinions expressed are my own.                      (MS-DOS CD-ROM, Sega-CD)
ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu, BIX: ggiles                   Author of DiskInfo, ZSound
From: harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Ok, let's debug: Enforcer, MungWall, mungmungmung...
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:15:29 GMT
Organization: Fipnet, Helsinki, Finland
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article ??? cs430117@ucs.usl.edu (Castor Christian A) writes:
> In article <Bxoo38.JDv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
> 
> >   I once tried to use Enforcer, but it was so cryptic.  First of all, I
> >   find it useless to actually REQUIRE Enforcer to output to SER: or PAR:.
> >   SER: I have no other Amiga, PAR: What a waste of paper.  And when I did
>  
> Have you tried using the program Sushi? It traps and redirects the
> output of programs such as Enforcer to a window instead of SER: or PAR: .
> It's in one of the recent Fish Disks.

The newest Enforcer can output to ANYTHING, including windows, files...

-- 
    Harri Pesonen               harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi
    Helsinki, Finland, EC?      Markka is floating...  1 USD = 5.0 FIM
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Let's move this thread to EFF's newsgroup already was RE: Piracy
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:21:50 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>>Software "piracy" is no more of a clearly defined crime than network
>>break-in's.  There aren't easy explanations for the technology itself
        [ya, ya, blahablah by me:)]

> magnetic media,  but it doesn't take a genius to work out that if you 
> have a copy of a piece of commercial software, and you havn't baught
> the orignal, than somethings up.  Know what I mean?

Well, I don't think it's that cut and dried even from a
common-sensical approach.  There must be at some point be some account
given to the Intentional context of the "pirate's" act.  The fact of
the matter is that both in legal contexts and more common sense
situations we take account of why people do things.  IOW, what are the
cirsumstances behind what they did.

    [blah, blah, snotty totty, rigamoru...]
>>philosophical arguments have been forwarded as well as any further
>>discussion.
> 
> It doesn't seem that complicated to me, but then again, maybe I'm just
> plain nuts, 'cos it don't register as a philosophical argument in my mind.

For many people murder is also a cut and dried thing.  War is wrong
because it takes the life of another person.  Capital punishment is
wrong.  Shotting your husband because he rapes and beats you is wrong.

Clearly though, for others these circumstances are diffenet and would
require the actors to be dealt with diffeently.  This is reflected in
the fact that we have different "kinds" of murder, theft, etc.

The important point I would like to make is that we *must not* let
companies that have inherently a vested interest differnt from the
general public's decide these issues for us.  If you are comfortable
letting Mircosoft decide not only how much you should pay for a
product but when, under what conditions, for what purposes, how often
a day, then perhaps you should reconsider the dilemna.

It is clearly not a "cut and dried" situation and involves more issues
than Bill stole Bob's potatoe (spelling curtousy of EX-vice pres.
Qualye!!).
 
> Torban Bennett       torban@murdoch.edu.au
> Murdoch University,  For once, I don't think they'll mind what I
> just said ;-) 
> Western Australia.
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
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