From: boyd@ansjem.anes.tulane.edu (Victoria L Boyd PhD)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Bush cowardice? I think not (RE More Bush Cowardice)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 10:16:46 CDT
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Reply-To: "Boyd, Victoria L" <boyd@tmc.tulane.edu>
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In article <1992Oct2.015704.1@acad.drake.edu> (alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush), vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.033931.24538@u.washington.edu>, olshen@biostat.washington.edu (Adam Olshen) writes:
> > In article <1992Oct1.210646.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
> >> How can we look up to a President who was afraid to defend his country? 
> > 
> > Were we attacked?  If so, I missed it.
> > 
> > How do you know what arrangement he had with his wife.  Maybe his wife had
> > affairs?  Maybe she did not care?  How can you judge their marraiage from
> > the outside?
> > 
> >>How can we look up to a President who sees nothing but doom and
> >>gloom in the American work place? 
> > What does this mean?  
> > 
> > 
> > You seem to be the gloom and doom man.  I walked down many streets today
> > and none of them was controlled by drugs.  In fact, in 24 years, I have never
> > walked down a street controlled by drugs.  I must hang out in the wrong 
> > neighborhoods.  Drugs don't murder; people are the only objects that have
> > the capability of murder.  Drugs lead to murder, but that is mostly the
> > result of our inane drug laws.
> > 
> > Adam Olshen
> > olshen@biostat.washington.edu
> 
> Hmm... Adam, buddy, I think you completely missed the point. You see, the
> United States hasn't been invaded since the Spanish American war... what I was
> talking about OBVIOUSLY is Clinton's DODGING OF THE DRAFT! In your 24 years, do
> you remember Vietnam? That's right, we had a WAR in the sixties, that Mr.
> Clinton seemed to have convienlently missed. That is what I was referring to.

Hmm...Vince, buddy, I think you have been listening to the Republican drivel
for far too long.  You see, the US was attacked in WWII and not Vietnam (Adam's
point, I believe).  Also, Clinton did not dodge the draft - he took his chances
with the lottery after declining an ROTC offer that would have meant he could
have avoided Vietnam.  Can you spell special treatment?  Try Quayle.  Can
you spell coward?  Try Quayle.  (True he is not president but he is a heartbeat
away from the presidency which makes me question Bush's intellectual competence.)

> 
> As for his wedding, the "church scene" that I described is taken from the very
> mouth of Mr. Clinton (well, not exactly) during a Democratic debate with the
> other Democrats running for President.

If you are going to condemn Clinton on allegations of an affair (no credible
evidence) then you better condemn Bush also (once again, no credible evidence).

> As for the drugs... man, you have lived
> a sheltered life! I come from a small town in southern Wisconsin, not too far
> from Chicago and Milwaukee... and I hate to shatter your world like this, but
> there are drug rings out there, I've seen them pal. True, you make a point that 
> for me to say that drugs run our streets is a bit pessimistic, but I'm not
> running for President. The last person in the world to undermine the ability of
> Americans should be the President, or anyone who wants to be the leader of a
> nation. What sort of leader believes that his following is second rate? If Mr.
> Clinton cannot believe in me or the abilites of the people of this nation then
> I CANNOT believe in him. And nor should anyone else. 

Drugs are a problem but Bush hasn't helped solve the problem either.  Condemning
Clinton for this problem simply doesn't hold up.

As for Clinton being doom and gloom...simply stating the facts doesn't make
him doom and gloom.  The fact that we work harder for less money today than
before is stating fact.  Bush is the one who has done this to America.  It
is Bush that deserves your disbelief.

Moreover, can you provide a quote of Clinton's where he says that Americans
are second rate?  I believe you have listened to Republican interpretation
once again.

> I hope this helped. Try to
> follow a little closer next time.
> Here endith the lesson.
> 		--VSG001@acad.drake.edu (Vince Goddard-ARCH Conservative)
>  
> 


Victoria L Boyd PhD

boyd@tmc.tulane.edu

Quayle quote on the concept of a manned mission to Mars: It's "time for the
human race to enter the solar system."
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