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From: schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: Go Michigan Was "By Thy Vomit Gently Heaving, Illinois"
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:54:34 GMT

In <1992Nov13.171514.5966@newstand.syr.edu> pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White) writes:

>Come on , the Illini beat Michigan - only if Gary and the rest of the team
>sleep too late on Saturday.

Uh, you were saying something?... =P

FICHIGAN MUCKED UP!

tv's wisecracking peter
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From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Re: Why Michigan sucks..
Organization: Bell Communications Research
	<168A37BD6.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com>
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:17:27

In article <168A37BD6.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:

> HERE WE GO AGAIN.  DEJA VU.  Just like every year.  The OSU woofers
> come out before the Michigan game and use words like "dick", "dork",
> "they're scared of us", and so on.  It is reminiscent of the
> black knight in "The Holy Grail".  OSU is good and yes, they
> may even beat Michigan.  Then again, Michigan is pretty good,
> especially after coming off a bad game.  I expect Michigan
> to return to its high scoring offense.  Given UM's defense, it
> may just be a long day for this OSU woofer.


I have to agree here.  I'm a Buckeye through and through, but we've got no
reason to be blowing our own horn right now.  The fact is, we're 7 point
underdogs to Michigan (the last time I looked) in our own stadium!  On a
neutral field, Michigan wins this game 8 out of 10 times based on what we've
seen so far this season.  Given the recent disposition of the Ohio Stadium
crowd, I don't think the odds are that much different.

Our fans seem to have forgotten our struggles earlier in the season.  We've
played well recently & are finally healthy, but we've really only played
well enough to beat Michigan once this season.  Michigan on the other hand
has only had two games (albeit both in the last three weeks) which give us
any indication that we're capable of winning.  Surely they're better than
the performance against Illinois indicates & I suspect the emotion of the
OSU-Michigan game will bring that out.

So, let's try and keep our enthusiasm a little bit in check.  If we win,
then flood the net with all the woof postings you want.  Until then, you're
just setting yourself up to be skewered should we lose.

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 and wrong." - H.L. Mencken
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Bowls
Date: 23 Nov 1992 02:31:37 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <By4zzo.H60@cs.uiuc.edu> dames@cs.uiuc.edu writes:

> this year...the 31-13 loss at Houston was not nearly as lopsided as the score
> indicates...both teams played relatively poorly, with Illinois turning the
> ball over on drives deep in Houston territory.  Furthermore, 7 (or 6) of
> Houston's points came with :01 second remaining in the game on a classless
> 80 yd. bomb that only Jenkins, Klingler(?), and whomever received the ball
> expected.                      ^^^^^^^^^

  The offending QB was a guy named Douglas, who was fighting for the starting
position with Klingler.  Douglas made the play call at the line of scrimmage.
Jenkins, however, seemed to like it, praising Douglas for taking advantage
of the opportunity (or words to that effect...he sure didn't apologize).


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: dwray@convex.com (Daryl Wray)
Subject: Re: Texas - Baylor  (I feel bad about whining...)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:51:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Nov23.161145.3090@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>R. Jayakrishnan (jayakris@translab.its.uci.edu) wrote:
>:   never whine at all. In my life, I have not seen a game that was worse
>:   in officiating than this one. More so, it appeared that every bad call
>
>So you missed UH vs Texas, Baylor vs A&M, A&M vs UH, hell Cowboys vs Giants
>last year, etc...
>-- 
>Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
>scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
>(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

Well... here it goes.  My first and last (hopefully) time to take up for
a shorthorn :).  I saw all of these games you mention, Scott, and I must
say that the BU/tu game was the worst job of officiating college football
that I've seen in my life.  The fumble that Jay refers to is definitely
the single worst call I've EVER seen!  There's no way that the official
"missed" that call.

daryl

p.s. Beat the hell outta tu!!!

p.p.s.  Here's hoping the ref's don't try to make it up to tu this week!
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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:37:00 GMT

dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:

First- I apologize to those I may have offended. I blew my top.  I should 
have the cool hand like others and bite my tounge.  

the supperly was supposed to be support.
typo in the heat of battle :-)

David - You were right about the woof gods!

David

>-- 
>               David K. Magee | "Mandrake! Get over here and feed me that  
>         MIS Graduate Student |  belt boy.  The Redcoats are coming! "
> Mississippi State University |
>          dkm2@ra.msstate.edu |   -  General Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove 
-- 
               David K. Magee | "Mandrake! Get over here and feed me that  
         MIS Graduate Student |  belt boy.  The Redcoats are coming! "
 Mississippi State University |
          dkm2@ra.msstate.edu |   -  General Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove 
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From: rszczerb@mauchly.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Miami - Syracuse
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:38:13 GMT

My heart just broke watching the end of the
Syracuse - Miami game ... they were just
4 yards short of the winning TD.  People
always say that the great teams always find
a way to win, but Miami has been getting
way too luck this season.

		- rob


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From: lhunt@epas.utoronto.ca (Laura Hunt)
Subject: Re: Name That Tune 
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:13:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.111119.61048@cc.usu.edu> Travis Clements writes:
>
>	This is just to display my new signature.  Can anyone name that tune?
>-- 
>|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>     |	Travis L. Clements |   	With all the anger in the land
>     |  N. Logan, Utah     |    How long before the judgement day?            
>     ----------------------|    Before we cut the Fat Ones* down to size?
>    * Miami, A&M, Michigan |    Before the Woofing Gods arrive?
>    Notre Dame, Florida St |
>|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+||+

Warning: my first post!

Oh no!  This is causing me to flashback to the early '70s here....what
about "One Tin Soldier," the artist of which currently escapes me....


Laura Hunt 
USC '90

I don't know enough to have a .sig, but I do know enough to know that
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From: salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena)
Subject: Re: Stanford/Cal Big Game on TV?
Organization: Toshiba America MRI Inc, S. San Francisco, CA.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:35:47 GMT

In article <33022@goofy.Apple.COM> eroth@Apple.COM (Rico) writes:
>As of right now (Friday morning, 11/13) 800-BEATCAL says no TV
>of any kind for Big Game (that's Stanford vs. Cal, if you had
>to ask), but that may change.  The woman wouldn't say how or
>why or when that may change, or why she thought so (yeah, it
>was a rather peculiar conversation.)  Anybody know what's up
>with potential Sports Channel pickup, or whomever?
>

Yes the Sports Channel will be showing the "Big Game" in the San Francisco
Bay area.  However, it will not be on TV till 10:30pm on Saturday 11/21.  I
am not sure of the time, but did see an add for the "Big Game" when watching
the WSU @ Stanford game this past weekend.

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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Canes in the Graves-yard!
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:58:04 GMT

chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson) writes:

>This game has the potential to show how ludicrous the Big East's champion
>is determined this year.

>If Syracuse beats Miami by a small margin, they would be unbeaten in the
>Big East and Miami would have one loss in the Conference.

>Yet, Miami might only drop a spot or two in the polls and Syracuse could
>gain a few spots, but potentially STILL BE RANKED BEHIND MIAMI AT THE END
>OF THE SEASON.  Therefore, since the Big East champion is determined by the
>highest ranking in the national polls, a one conference loss Hurricane team
>would claim the Big East championship over an undefeated (in the conference)
>Syracuse team.

>Only in the Big Easy....

Are you being picky or what ?  It's a new conference and they don't start
full round-robin play until 1993.

Only from a Gay Door.........
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From: atchison@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Hail to Those Motherf***ers...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.155522.4171@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>  Mike Doel asks:
>>Any former TBDBITL members wish to post the alternate lyrics to Hail to the
>>Victors or LeRegiment(sp)?
>
>     Mike! Take back the request! Do you remember how many of the alternate 
>lyrics are outside the bounds of political correctness!? We Buckeyes will get 
>flamed to no end if our horribly redneck verses are posted!
>     OK, OK, I'll put the two I remember up:
>
>     Hail to those motherf***ers!
>     Hail to those big ****suckers!
>     Hail, Hail to Michigan!
>     The cesspool of the world!
>
>     Hail to those intellectuals!
>     Hail to those homosexuals!    ( <- see what I mean!)
>     Hail, hail to Michigan
>     The cesspool of the world
>
>     There are several other versions I've heard but can't remember.

      One of them being:

      Hail to those fornicators!
      Hail to those masturbaters!
      Hail, Hail to Michigan!
      The cesspool of the world!

Really, if you're not a Michigan fan, commit at least one of these to memory.
If you're watching UM on TV, or better yet if you're in person, the theraputic
effects of singing it out loud, nay, screaming it out loud are amazing.
It helps to offset the incessant repetition of that one damn song.  I know
TBDBITL plays Sloopy an awful lot, but really, does Michigan's band know any
others?

You've no idea how soothing it can be, until you try.  

--
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 Mark Atchison, a.k.a. <atchison@cis.ohio-state.edu>; Graduate Student in the
Computer Science Dept, THE Ohio State University (NOT an Ohio State University)
		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...
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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Re: Rice 34 Baylor 31
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:15:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.165854.27166@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:

>>Any chance of Rice going to a bowl this year?


>Rice has to beat Navy and Houston to go to a bowl.  I would like to see
>them get the new Alamo Bowl.  That would be good for their fans, they

Alamo Bowl won't start until Dec. 1, 1993.  Geez, the damn building isn't
even finished yet.

-Chris


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From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Big Eight review of Preview(11-17)
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.143351@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:

	   conf		overall	
   NU      4-2-0           7-2-0
   CU      4-1-1           8-1-1
   KU      4-2-0           7-3-0
   OU      3-1-2           5-3-2
   OSU     2-3-1           4-5-1
   ISU     2-4-0           4-6-0
   KSU     1-4-0           4-5-0
   MU      1-5-0           2-8-0

actually, the order is correct, but one of the particulars is wrong.  being
a buffs fan, i hate to admit this, but nu is 4-1 in the conference, not 4-2.

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-johndoe
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From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:52:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.120725@IASTATE.EDU>, Richard W Turner 
... whines about how Iowa isn't deserving of a bowl bid.

I'm no fan of the Hawkeyes -- they're definitely in the running for the
Big Ten team I like the least -- but this complaining sounds a lot like
ISU Sour Grapes to me.  There are what, eighteen bowl games?  It only
seems fair that the best thirty-something teams in the country get to
go bowling.

I don't think power ratings are perfect, but they are at least impartial
(which cannot be said of all of the participants in this thread), and
they give a better measure of team strength than record.  The most recent
Sagarin ratings have Iowa at #31, which (in a perfect world) would make
the Hawkeyes worthy of a minor bowl.  It would hardly be an outrage
if Iowa got a bid.

There will be *much* worse teams playing in bowl games (e.g., #62 Bowling
Green, #77 Air Force) this year.  Hell, several other teams (#33 North
Carolina, #34 Boston College, #37 Texas, #38 Washington State, #43 San
Diego State, and #57 Hawaii) aren't arguably better than Iowa and yet are
likely (if not certain) to get bowl bids.
-- 
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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Iowa vs BYU in the Copper 
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:51:27 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Nov18.043322.19372@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
> 	I just heard this on the radio, Iowa has accepted a bid to
> the Copper Bowl providing two things:
> 1) They win this Saturday.
> 2) Michigan State wins.
> 
> 	If Iowa loses, then Iowa doesn't go to a bowl, but as 
> long as Iowa wins they are going bowling. If Michigan State loses
> (or ties I think) then Iowa will go to the Holiday bowl. 
> If they go to the Copper, it is very likely that they will play
> BYU agian.

	I see Iowa is determined to have a losing season this year :).

Brett
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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Va Tech loses to UVa (again)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:31:10 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: damn!
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1eqp9vINNq6v@rave.larc.nasa.gov> mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
>
>
>The last touchdown of the game was definitely the 
>best.  There was very little time left, and a very
>long bomb is caught putting us inside the ten.

Unfortunatly, that touchdown should have never happened. UVa 
intercepted a DeShazo pass and when the player was down, a Tech
receiver wrestled the ball away. I saw the replay on the Virginia
football Show yesterday and it clearly should have been an 
interception. Instead, the officials gave the ball to Tech. Welsh,
the TV commentator on the Coaches show and both of the radio 
announcers calling the game were adament that it should have been
ruled an interception. The next play was the TD pass. 



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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: More Miami vs. the SEC (was Re: SEC shoots itself in the foot)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.142802.8467@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, kevin@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey) writes:
> Timothy C Pitts (v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:

> : Of 12 current SEC schools, only Arkansas, South Carolina, (who were not 
> : then members of the SEC) and Florida have been willing to visit the Orange 
> : Bowl since Miami won its first NC 
>
    Once again, has Miami tried to schedule anyone else?  Or is the fact that
all of the SEC teams are not beating down Miami's door begging to play in the
Orange Bowl sufficient to prove that they are unwilling?

> : That Miami has played
> : a home-and-home series that was agreed to after Miami's first NC with at 
> : least one team from every other major conference suggests that the SEC is 
> : either too arrogant or too chicken to play Miami. 

    There is another possibility that I have brought forth before.  Of course,
I have no real proof of its authenticity but it holds as much water as most
of the opposing theories.  That is that Miami has only sought to play the SEC
team in the same state with them in order to decide the "Florida State
Championship" on the field.  When this series ended (for whatever reason),
the blowhards felt that they now had proof that all SEC teams refuse to play
Miami.  That along with the fact that a schedule laden with SEC teams makes a
MNC far more of a long shot.  Perhaps Miami liked their chances better without
this burden.

> : I suggest the following 
> : classification:
> : 
> : 4.  As yet unclassified:  
> :      Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Kentucky
         ^^^^^^^

    Should be classified as "played a number of times and dominated Miami".

> : It would be my guess that Miami has approached at least Alabama and Tennessee
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> : in that last group and they more appropriately belong in group 1, but I
                                                                      ^^^^^
> : have no (even circumstantial) evidence except to say that the ADs probably
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                            ^^^^^^^^
> : talked at the respective Sugar Bowls.

    There's that inarguable proof I've been looking for.  I stand corrected.

--
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From: rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:57:32 GMT

Can anyone give me any justification why Michigan is
still ranked ahead of ND in the AP poll?  About the only
significant thing Michigan did this season was to tie ND.
They almost lost to Purdue and they played a pathetic game
against Illinois and went for a last second tie ... giving
up any chance to win the MNC.

ND, on the other hand, beat BYU, Boston College, and
Penn State.  If they keep the string alive and beat  
USC then I don't see why they should be ranked behind
the Wolverines.  ANy other opinions ...

		- rob





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From: marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson)
Subject: Re: Nebraska at Oklahoma - Shootout '92
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 12:11:32 GMT
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In article <1992Nov23.204026.1498@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>--
> [ stuff deleted ]
>Lets see, old NU/OU games. How about '82. NU had the original version of the
>triplets (Gill, Rozier, Fryar) plus Rathman and Craig. Not to mention the 
>offenssive line of which most of them would be playing on Sundays soon. They
>had an 'ok' D. OU had that young back who left school shortly after this. I can't remember his name but he was a monster. He ran for a 90 yard TD to keep
>OU in the game.
>

Marcus Dupree.
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