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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:40:49 GMT

In article <92280.161757MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>Big Ten (Terry Boers, Chicago Sun-Times):
>>>1. Indiana
>>>2. Michigan
>>>3. Michigan St.
>>>4. Iowa
>>>5. Illinois
>>>6. Purdue
>>>7. Ohio St.
>>>8. Minnesota
>>>9. Wisconsin
>>>10. Northwestern
>>>11. Penn St.
>
>I can't believe Penn State is at the absolute basement here! In the last
>two years, PSU beat Illinois, and played a fine game against Ohio
>State last year (stayed within 10-20 whole game, but never seriously
>challenged). Also, two years ago they beat top-20 UCLA in the first
>round of the Big Dance! I say PSU ends up 6th or 7th in the Big Ten.

I tend to agree with you here, but this team has lost both of its starting
guards and its center. Even with that, though, Parkhill isn't a bad coach,
and I expect Penn State to finish about 8th or so (at least over Northwestern).

The Daily Student will have our own Big Ten predictions at the end of the
month.  I'll post them here when they get in.



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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:30:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <70071@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>Best arena: The Pit
>	I've heard ALOT of good things about The Pit.  I don't think its 
>any coincidence that The Pit has hosted NCAA Final 4 before, and may well
>again in the future.  It is a great site for basketball, not to mention
>a formidable place to play at.  Obviously, I'm not speaking from personal
>experience here, but rather from what I've read in many, many publications
>and what I've seen on tv.

I *have* been in the Pit, and it is easily the loudest and most 
rambunctious arena I've even been in.  Although the Lobos are never
a really bad team, it makes me wonder how loud the place would be 
if New Mexico ever got into the top 10 (or 5)!

Unfortunately, though, the NCAA not too long ago made some sort of 
"executive decision" about Final Four Arena sizes, to the effect that
only the big ones will be used in the future (can't remember what their
seating requirement is, but it's something like 30,000+).  There are
only about 10 or 11 facilities in the country which will be usable for
upcoming FFs.  The Pit, regrettably, ain't one of them.

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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Southland Conference
Summary: Looking for r.s.bb.c'ers from Southland Conference schools.
Keywords: PECK 'EM ROADRUNNERS!!!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:36:30 GMT


I was wondering if anybody else from the Southland Conference is reading
r.s.bb.c.???  If you are interested perhaps we could have a conference summary
with news from each school.

If you are SERIOUS about this please send me an email.

Maybe it's premature to be asking about this but since we don't have a football
team here (yet), I'm getting ancy waiting for basketball to start up.

Chris Robbins   crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu
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University of Texas at San Antonio
1991-92 Southland Conference Regular Season Basketball Champions
From: bm495@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: TOP RECRUIT TO U.OF CINCINNATI
Date: 30 Sep 1992 21:59:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bm495@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Moore)
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Local news reported tonight that Dontonio Wingfield has verbally 
committed to the University of Cincinnati. Most recruiting lists
have him listed in the top 5 or 10 in the nation. The Cincinnati
Enquirer also reported yesterday that local prospect Damon Flint
(another top 20-30 recruit) will commit around November 11. 
Recently he visted UC and appears he is leaning toward staying
home to play for the Bearcats. It was also reported that Kentucky 
is no longer attempting to recuit Damon Flint.
 
Mr. Bearcat 
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Basketball Digest: PAC-10 Predictions
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:40:11 GMT

matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>
>>Washington has Manning & Pope to anchor a strong front line...
>
>Still?  There are a few players every year that I think *must* have 
>graduated by now.  As far as I can tell, they've been there since
>day 1.  Ralph Sampson was like that at UVa (he was there 6 or 7 years -
>I'm sure of it).  Manning and Pope are like that too.  They're 
>probably only Juniors.  Enlighten/Frighten me.

Manning is a senior.  Pope is only a sophomore.

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From: cmeyer@spiral.Stanford.EDU (Craig Meyer)
Subject: Re: Inside Sports Poll
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
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Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 01:15:07 GMT

Did they really leave Missouri out of the top 50 schools?  If so,
I would like to make a little side bet with the editors (in Nevada, of course).

Mizzou will be solid this year.  Winfield lost his appeal to be eligible
this year, but they have three other JUCO/transfer newcomers.  They are a
solid, experienced team.  They don't have Peeler anymore, but they will
definitely make the NCAA's.  (I'm not saying they will win any games there,
but they will be invited.)

--Craig
From: rx84335@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (BENVENGA MARK J)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: St. John's news...?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lilly Research Laboratories
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In article <UemanHS00ioDE=EUoq@andrew.cmu.edu>, mh6c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hofsass) writes...
> 
> 
>Hello!
> 
>I am from NYC and am seeking any and all Redmen news...
> 
>I fear for them this season w/o Sealy (who I graduated with from High
>School) and w/o Louie...
> 
>Any info, please let me know...
> 
>Thanks
> 
>MAGE.

I am also an avid St. John's fan (alumnus, 1981) and I fear it will
be a down year, but not for the same reasons.  After having followed
Louie and the team for 15 years, I think they are better off without
him.  St. John's has been the most underachieving team in the Big
East since its inception, and Louie has gotten more credit than he
deserves.  I admit that St Johns is not the most glamorous place
to play in the Big East, but having only been to 1 Final Four is
ridiculous.  Think off all the basketball talent in NYC that Louie
has let get away.  Now I don't believe that Mahoney is the answer,
but in the long run, I think things will look up for the Redmen.
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Carolina Preview, Part I (long)
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:55:31 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <matthew.717823869@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>Curtis left off a big something that went "Right Last Year", namely,
>Carolina beat Duke.  If only they hadn't lost to State (twice)...

... and then proceeded to get thumped, then *CRUSHED* by the Devils the
next two times they played.

I'd agree -- definitely something that went "Right Last Year".
:)

- Rob MacK
2 X 1!
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes
Originator: jagreath@c00055-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:23:35 GMT


In article <70158@hydra.gatech.EDU>, jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
|>In article <70071@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
|>>Best arena: The Pit
|>>	I've heard ALOT of good things about The Pit.  I don't think its 
|>>any coincidence that The Pit has hosted NCAA Final 4 before, and may well
|>>again in the future.  It is a great site for basketball, not to mention
|>>a formidable place to play at.  Obviously, I'm not speaking from personal
|>>experience here, but rather from what I've read in many, many publications
|>>and what I've seen on tv.

|>I *have* been in the Pit, and it is easily the loudest and most 
|>rambunctious arena I've even been in.  Although the Lobos are never
|>a really bad team, it makes me wonder how loud the place would be 
|>if New Mexico ever got into the top 10 (or 5)!

I have been, too.  The Pit compares favorably to a jet engine revving for
takeoff.  As for UNM being in the top 10, in 1978-79, they were.  The Pit
was a madhouse, and Norm Ellenberger was a *god* in Albuquerque.  Then 
Lobogate hit, and UNM has never been quite the same.
*sigh*

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Faulkner to Cincy?
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:55:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvGq8w.HBz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:

>Mack only got 3 in I think 5 years. Iowa State, ASU(never played there
>went to a juco) and then Houston. Now if Starks 4 includes Juco's then
>Mack did equal this, but I'm not sure if thats the case.

	Starks went to 4 schools, and played basketball at each one.  I
	believe 2 of the schools were JUCOs.

	Jazzy J

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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Recruiting News Here and There
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:58:52 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <BvGonB.GH2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>>Charles (Yes, He is Ed's brother) O'Bannon, 6'6" from Lakewood, Ca.
>>May go to UCLA if his brother recommends it, won't if he doesn't.
>
>	I'd be surprised if Charles went to UCLA.  After all, his older
>	brother is there -- and even though he has been coming back from
>	his ACL injury slowly -- Charles would probably still play in
>	Ed's shadow for 2 seasons.  This reminds me of the Doug/Steve


Thats sort of been my theory all along, it might not help UCLA that he
is Ed's brother. He was a freshman starter when Ed was the best senior
in the country at Lakewood, so he only played in Ed's shadow for one
year in highschool(although I'm sure he's still known as Ed's little
brother to this day, he's not as good as Ed was), but it would be
2 years together unless Ed wen't pro early which seems pretty far
fetched.

Back then, Charles indicated that he was interested in following in Ed's
footsteps in college, but that was 3 years ago, and he's made enought
of a name for himself that his opinion probably has changed. At least
from what I hear, he and teammate Avondre Jones are not a "package
deal" so UCLA still appears the favorite to get Jones(i'd much rather
have Darnell Robinson but Jones is a talented athlete), even if they
do lose on Charles. 

Does this mean Indiana is out of the O'Bannon picture?




Russ Smith
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From: guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Faulkner to Cincy?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:50:09 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

>In article <BvGCno.AsF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>{about Jamal Faulkner}
>>	Wow.  3 schools in 5 years.  He'll be challenging John Starks'
>>	record (4 schools, 4 years).

>Didn't Houston's Sam Mack manage to accomplish that last year?  I know he
>went to at least three different schools, and I thought it was four.

Only if you count reform school.

>	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)

Stan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: PSU needs a point guard.
From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:19:49 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

I caught the tail end of Sports Line last night on the radio and they were
discussing PSU hoop recruits. There is a very good chance that PSU will land
some very decent players this year. I may be wrong, but I believe PSU has four 
scholarships to give. One thing PSU needs is a quality point guard. If PSU
lands one, he will probably start all four years and play in one of the best 
conferences in the country. 

With the new sports complex to be complete for the 1994 basketball season, 
PSU should be able to get some quality players. 

One player mentioned was a kid named Myers from Steelton-Highspire out of
Harrisburg. The other three names I can't recall. One player was a guard from 
the Pittsburgh area. If he has a good senior season, he is projected to
be the all-times leading scorer in WPIAL history. I believe this kid also won 
the slam dunk competition at the Nike camp. 

I'll post better details once I pick up the next issue of BW Ill.  


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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Sport Magazine's Sweet Sixteen
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:40:24 GMT

In article <5627@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>
>For what it's worth, Sport just put out its Sweet Sixteen for next year.
>
>2. Michigan-- How can anyone pick against the Wolverines? With Howard, Rose
>   and Webber, it's unwise to bet against them. 
>
>6. Indiana-- Sport hates Bobby Knight, but he has a pretty good team.


	The magazine must really hate him...


>Conferences (the teams to watch out for, winner listed first):
>
>Big 10: Michigan, Indiana, Illinois

	Hmmm.  Hey Steve, I guess the Boilers will be surprising
	everyone again this year.  Illinois 3rd?  Maybe.  I guess
	Sport thinks that Andy Kaufmann and the frosh Keene will
	be enough to climb up from last year's 13-16...

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Syracuse Probation
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:03:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Oct1.152839.703@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchism@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Grady W Chism) writes:
>I just heard a blip on the radio that Syracuse was going to be put on probation
>for two years.  Anybody know the reasons? Bad coaching?

Couldn't be for bad coaching.  If Syracuse were to be put on probation for
bad coaching, they'd have received 5 years.

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From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Sport Magazine's Sweet Sixteen
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:23:52 GMT
 <1992Sep30.160143.14222@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> <23238@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
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In article <23238@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.160143.14222@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>> In article <22993@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>> Far be it from me to disagree with gary, but I think that Arizona will 
>> take the PAC-10 this year.  I wonder, is woofing against group etiquette?
>
>What group etiquette??????? Did I miss something???
>
Yes you did.  You need to take your finger off the question mark
key after it types it once.
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: More Purdue Recruiting News
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:07:13 GMT
Organization: The Gizmonic Institute

Jazzy J writes:
>Rick Suffridge writes:
>>:
>>: OK, fine.  Let's start a "Palphrey f*$&#ed up on defense" thread.
>
>>   That would be fine, but exactly who is "Palphrey" and what is wrong
>>   with his defense?
>
>	I think he's referring to John Pelphrey, and his defense on
>	Christian Laettner in the final seconds of that infamous game...
>
Okfine. Except who is Christian Laettner and which infamous game 
are you referring to?
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith update
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:04:25 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Oct6.131241.4229@pmafire.inel.gov> wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner) writes:
>In article <19882@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>>}} In article <19881@ector.cs.purdue.edu> gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:
>>}} 
>>}} [ Carl lists five ways in which Keady frees up a scholarship for
>>}}   Rashard Griffith ]
>>
>>6. Cornelius McNary ties himself up and immolates himself on a burning
>>pyre, apparently despondent over recent removal of campus landmark,
>>the old smokestack, thereby releasing scholarship.  Gene Keady is
>>later seen trying to scrub a faint smell of kerosene and garlic from
>>his hands.
>>
>Does the removal of the smokestack mean there are no more virgins at
>Purdue?

I don't know, but I sure as hell was trying to plan a trip down to West
Lafayette this semester.  All those women running around trying to lose
their virginity.  Wow!  I bet that cement lion never roars again...
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From: Me
Subject: Re: More UCLA news (Ma Jian)
Reply-To: Me
Organization: Me
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:30:32 GMT

>Our news feed has been down for a couple of days, and now it's seriously
>brain-damaged.  Hope this gets out...
>
>>Ma Jian                   6-6  F   China                         UCLA
>
>Jian failed to achieve the entry requirements set down by the university,
>so he won't be coming after all it seems.  I don't know if this is a
>"good" thing or not.

did he fail the college admissions requirements or the basketball team entry
requirements?  while we're on this subject, are there any notable "good" asian
ball players in the ncaa or elsewhere?  a height of 6-6 like that of ma jian
is pretty uncommon for asian people.
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Inside Sports Poll
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:36:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct5.093635.24909
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <70001@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>Let's engage in a little act of sabotage here.
>
>PURDUE SHOULD BE RANKED #1 IN THE BIG TEN AND IN THE NATION.  
>KEADY IS GREAT...BOILERMAKERS R00LZ!!!
>
>Hee hee hee...
>
>(or does it only work for one's own schools?)

WILDCATS ROOLZ!!!  JACKETS ROOLZ!!!
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