HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: collier@rtsg.mot.com (John T. Collier)
Subject: Gomer Pyle, U.F.P.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:36:27 GMT

This takes a little explanation...

I usually get home from work at 5 pm.  At 6 pm my local station
broadcasts reruns of ST:TNG, so I hop on my exercise bike and happily
peddle away while watching our friends in the Federation.

Today, unfortunately, I have to ride my bike at 5 pm (my fiance and I
are going shopping at 6 pm) and will miss the good Captain and his
crew, so I was wondering what shows were on at this earlier hour;
probably reruns of "The Andy Griffith Show" or "Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C."
My brain then latched onto the bizarre idea of T.V. show that combines
the best (or worst) of "Gomer Pyle" and ST:TNG.  So now, for your
reading displeasure, I present:

	GOMER PYLE, U.F.P. (United Federation of Planets)

Captain Picard:	"Open hailing frequencies to the Intrepid, Mr. Pyle."

Gomer:		"Gollllly, Captain, I'm not sure which button to
		 push ... maybe this one here ..."

Captain Picard:	"No you idiot ..."

Sound Effect:	"BOOOM!"  <- The sound of the Intrepid blowing up.

Gomer:		"Shazam, shazam, shazam!"

Captain Picard:	"Mr. Worf, please take Mr. Pyle to the transporter
		 room and beam him into outer space."

Worf:		"Gladly, Captain."


So, now, in order to start a completely useless thread, I invite you
to combine your favorite sitcom with our favorite space opera.  For
those of you who don't want to go through the agony of reading this
drivel, I suggest that you prepare your news reader kill files
accordingly.

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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: the sixth season....
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:31:51 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Nov22.045020.1862@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> maki@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Justin N Maki) writes:
>	I just finished watching "The Quality of Life" tonight, and was
>thinking that season six just hasn't been the same as the other five.
>Granted, shows evolve, etc... but I was wondering if this has anything to do
>with Gene R. not being at the helm anymore.

Roddenberry wasn't "at the helm" for the last two or so years of his life; his
stroke left him in no condition to oversee the day-to-day management of the
show.  Piller and Berman have been certainly in control since early in season
4, and maybe since some point in season 3.

And, really, I think that the main difference between this season and the
previous one is that this season has fewer really awful shows *and* fewer
really great shows.

>	Anyway, what is going on?  Did all of the writer's run out of ideas,
>or were they replaced, or what?  I guess after 100+ episodes, things get 
>rehashed.

I think that the combined premise + format of TNG doesn't allow for a whole
heck of a lot of variety.  There's only so much they can do without real
character interaction, strong characters, and story arcs (as opposed to single
episodes).

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

No optimistic outlook survives contact with the human race.
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Trek in the News / CODCO Parody
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:51:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.172037.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> gen4033@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>
>BTW, CODCO's first episode of the season featured a ST:TNG parody.
>It was only available, I believe, to Canadian viewers on CBC-TV.
>
>If any fans from south of the border saw it, how 'bout some reactions?
>
Yea, I saw it...  Pretty good effort, i'd say.  Their "Troi" was great,
and the guy playing Picard also did a decent job (although he was a 
little young for the part).  It was probably one of the *longest* ST
parodies i've seen as well...  By the looks of things the must have
spent quite a few bucks building those sets, so there is a good chance
for some ongoing installments of TNG stuff on that show.  Hopefully
CBC will promo those as much as they did this one, so I don't miss it!

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From: knauer@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
Subject: Re: Request for "Ode to Spot"
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:42:54 GMT

In <james.43.722278060@library.nrl.navy.mil> james@library.nrl.navy.mil (James King) writes:
>                       Ode to Spot
>Felus Catus.  Is your taxonomic nomenclature
>an endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature?

Please, people, correct the copies of this that you have.  The version below
not only corresponds better with what Data said, but makes more sense as well.

>Felus Catus is your taxonomic nomenclature.
>An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature.

Just a little punctuation switching and voila' -- a better poem.

Rob
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knauer@cs.uiuc.edu       Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group
   "Eat, drink, and be merry; for tomorrow, ye will be taxed."  America, I
    hope 'change' was worth it...
From: f0408@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII???
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:08:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: desire.1992Nov16.180819.5644
Organization: Wright State University

> In <1992Nov13.233211.5639@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
> 
>>Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I've seen no
>>mention of it...
>>
>>I saw on AOL that Majel Barrett confirmed, at a west coast convention,
>>that Paramount has given the go ahead on Star Trek VII.  Is there any
>>truth to this?  Supposedly it would start filming in April, to be
>>released Summer '94.  Leonard Nimoy is supposed to be involved, Picard
>>will be seen in some way as a young boy I believe...  
>>
>>Does anybody have any concrete facts on this?
>>
>>Mike


According to Shatner, he has "heard nothing" on a decision from Paramount about
Star Trek VII (this from his appearance on QVC!). But, he also mentioned that
he submitted his own script for VII and that VII was being kicked around by
Paramount execs (the new ones!).  He further mentioned that they "were doing"
Star Trek VII because VI made so much money.  My info is that Nimoy wrote VII
or at least the current script being touted for VII.  It seems that a film now
would have to involve the TOS crew because of TNG's apparent commitment to do
eight full seasons and because of concurrent attention to DSN.

The signals are clearly indicative of a solid decision to do VII with the TOS
people as the primary concern, but there is a likely transition to TNG to be
made as the TOS people are not likely to make films indefinitely and TNG is
looking for a film career of its own.

My opinion, Bob Mack, Dayton, Ohio
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From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Review - "A Fistful of Datas" SPOILERS!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:17:52 GMT
Organization: The Instrumentality
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Nov15.180845.29063@sco.com> ruthc@sco.COM (cross index) writes:

>>SPOILERS AHEAD for "A Fistful of Datas"



...

>now wait just a minute there.  I got the impression that Worf was
>trying to get the captain to agree to some extra work so that he
>could AVOID going to the holodeck with Alexander...

I don't think Whorf could enjoy a vacation unless he was _forced_ to take
it. He's not capable of admitting to himself that he _wants_ to have fun.
Of course, once he's ordered to take off, he's free to actually enjoy
himself. 
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Subject: Re: Picard's accent
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:53:13 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

csi056@cch.coventry.ac.uk (WEG) writes:

> In article <1992Nov16.143307.1@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au> s334147@emu.insted.
> >Patrick Stewart is English.
> >Jean-Luc Picard is French speaking English.
> >He was obviously taught by an English person, therefore he speaks English (a
> >in the English that is spoken in England) with a French accent.
> 
> I would dispute this. I say he speaks American English. If he did speak
> English then he wouldn't mispronounce the rank lieutenant as _loo_tenant.
> 
> Mark

Thats true.  Then again Patrick Stewart was probably directed to pronounce it
that way.  After all we dumb Americans wouldn't get it if everyone were 
pronouncing it _loo_tenant, and only Picard pronounced it _lef_tennant.
(Although I probably don't have that British pronounciation correct, after
all, I'm just a dumb American as well  :)
 
Someone posted that Stewart was speaking British English with a French
accent.  I'm sorry, I don't hear the French accent at all.  He seems to
speak no differently then he does on any of his other television 
appearances.  I'll agree that he has, on occasion, used French words,
"merde", and refering to his mother as "mamam".  But I hear no French
accent.  So then to answer the question as to why Picard is a Frenchman
with an English accent.  (I believe someone already mentioned this, so this
is mearly in agreement with that person).  Simple he learned English either
in Britian, or from a British tutor.  And with some effort he managed to
get rid of any French accent he may have had.  Of course you'll notice so
had his brother and nephew, in Family.  So with all this one-worldness of
24th cent. earth, and the fact that English seems to have become the
universal language.  Dialects still seem to remain the same.  I would imagine
that in such a "one-world" universal atmosphere, English dialects would have
merge themselves into much more of a single dialect.  Look at what television
has done to the many dialects in the US today.  While we still to have strong
regional dialects, we are seeing them become more flattened out, and sound
more like American TV English with the younger generations.  My guess is that
by the 24th cent. dialects would have merge together much more then we are
seeing on TNG.  Although maybe with all of the openness of accepting other
cultures, speaking your own dialect was encouraged rather then a standard
dialect taught in the schools.


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From: kpm44977@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kevin P. McDonald)
Subject: Quality of "Quality of Life"
Originator: kpm44977@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: kpm44977@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kevin P. McDonald)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:29:38 GMT

 few comments on the latest TNG episode "The Quality of Life", but first...


O.K., now for some unsolicited opinions.

	Is it just me or was this an exceptionally BAD episode.  Once again, 
the writers have come up with a cute "cut and pat" storyline with a moral thrown
right in our faces.  I thought we'd seen the last of this in the first season. I
guess I was mistaken.  The alien doctor of the week's ending comment "next time
I won't use them as tools" line (or something along those lines) was just taking
it over the top in my view.  It was akin to a 
scooby-Doo dialog.  Yes, Data IS sentient.  Dr. Soong's purpose in creating him
was to create a sentient being.  The Exocomps were created as TOOLS.  Therefore
they don't qualify as a life form!!!  Taking this a little further, lets suppose
the Enterprise's computer somehow gains the attributes the Exocomps did.  Now
wh at if, after this happens, a Starfleet work-order to refit the computer and
other systems on the ship is put through.  If the Big-E's computer, with its new
found "intelligence" refuses the refit, do we tolerate it?  The answer of course
is absolutely NOT!!!  The Enterprise was designed by beings to perform tasks,
not to disrupt the attempts of those beings to execute the tasks it was designed
to perform.  The Exocomps are no different.

Besides, wasn't the core idea of this story already seen in the 1st season
episode "Home Soil"?

Just a few comments...
.

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From: myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin)
Subject: Re: myempire (Matt J. Martin)
Keywords: none
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:54:14 GMT

In article <BxsJ9B.7LJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> durrant@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>
>	I just felt a pressing need to let everyone know that all the students
>at Purdue are not as sexist, demented, and sad as Matt J. Martin (myempire).
>Actually, the vast majority of people I've met here are human beings with a
>sense of equality.  Flame away at him--he deserves it.
>
>Christine
>
  Am I sexist?

  Perhaps a bit.  But then, who isn't?  At least I have the integrity to 
admit it.
  And I certainly don't go around judging people solely on the basis of their
gender.  They all have more than enough annoying personnal attributes upon
which to judge them.

  Am I demented?

  Damn straight I am!  

  Am I sad?

  Only when watching this season's episodes.

  And about other people at Purdue not being like me, it may be true, but
it's not for lack of effort.


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From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Subject: Re: Quality of Season Six (was Re: RASCALS-this is writing?)
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:10:39 EST

In article <rawdon.721797078@cs.wisc.edu>
rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
 
>lower grade.  Season 6 so far has one quality episode (about half the
>percentage that each TNG season has had so far), and an even lower grade.
>
>My feeling about Season 6 is that, except for the last two episodes, it has
>been a watchable but not very inspiring season.  The first five episodes were
>decent, but only one was "good".  However, it wasn't until "True Q" that we
>encountered a really BAD episode.
>
I still don't understand what you consider a "quality episode?"  What are
you looking for?
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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Subject: re: Where are the VULCANS on TNG?
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:16:26 GMT

Besides "Sarek" and "Unification", they appear in "Encounter at Farpoint" 
and "Conspiracy"
From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Riker Manuver
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:31:55 GMT
Organization: Nope, just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jomby.caltech.edu

f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
>>I thought the Riker Manuver was a quick (warp speed) way to get a member of
>>the opposite sex horizontal!!!

In article <mbecke69.722285350@ursa> mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker) writes:
>Nope, Kirk has the patent on that one. :-)

Ah, yes.  How can one forget...

     Captain James T. Kirk.
     His five-year mission,
     to single-handedly
     repopulate the galaxy...

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From: ternent@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu (John Ternent)
Subject: Re: Trekkies get a life
Organization: Office for Information Management, University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:47:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.174404.17482@urbana.mcd.mot.com> mscott@charm.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Mark Scott) writes:

>In article <BxEtzB.EtH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, smoy@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Sharon Moy) writes:
>|>    ALL REPLIES IF YOU ARE OUTRAGED TO BE POSTED ON THE NET...I DO NOT WANT 
>|>    MY EMAIL FULL OF YOUR LETTERS.
>-- 

>sounds like an invitation to send her a bunch core dump files to me...:-)

Tempting, but probably not a good idea. Experience on the net suggests that 
these "Get a life" posts are from people who find other people's machines 
logged on but abandoned. The number of typos would seem to suggest that the
poster is either a retard or someone in a hurry. So, if you flood the owner
of the account with E-mail, you're just aggravating a whole lot of people (
including system managers) who have to deal with it but didn't have anything 
to do with the original posting!

Just grin and bear it... I'd rather not have a life and get my kicks from a 
TV show that not have a life and get my kicks sending stupid messages from
either other's accounts or my own!

John

P.S. Any typos are because I am in a hurry; I isn't retarded, 'cause I is a 
college studint.
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST: TNG has gone down the toilet!
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:07:04 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1ejua9INNepb@gap.caltech.edu> thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.214824.10026@sbcs.sunysb.edu> gkatz@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:
>>Here are more ST:TNG cliches I can do without:

>>Q being a pest.
>>Lwaxana Troi in a horny mood.
>>Riker in a horny mood.
>>Data trying to act human.

>Are these "cliches"?  They seem like normal in-character behaviors, to me.
>(Yes, they are small examples of ... CONTINUITY!!!  :-)

Being in-character doesn't mean they're not cliche, nor does it make them
worthwhile attributes.

Q's "pest" nature was tiresome by the end of "Encounter At Farpoint", and was
just plain dull by "Hide And Q".

Lwaxana Troi was cliche from almost the moment she first stepped onscreen.

Riker's occasional horniness is I suspect largely an effort to cover up for
his general lack of character.

Data's efforts to be human would be more interesting if handled in a more
concerted manner.  Unfortunately, awful episodes like "In Theory" don't really
help.  On the other hand, great episodes like "The Most Toys" *do*.

>>Wesley appearing just in time to save the day, again.

>Okay; this did get real old real fast.

Though, as with Kirk's supposed womanizing, it did not happen very often.

>>Alexander, period.

>I don't know.  Is this kid that bad, or is it just the fact that he's a
>*kid* on ST that has everybody after his hide?  (Somebody should have
>told him what Wesley did to ST:TNG viewers' perceptions of children :)

>I've recently seen "Ethics" (repeat from last season), "Rascals", and
>"Fistful of Datas", all of which included parts for Alexander, and he
>seemed like a fairly believable kid to me.  (Maybe not a typical
>Klingon child, but then, he hasn't been raised as such.)

Alexander has mostly been grossly mishandled, I think.  His best portrayal to
date has been in "A Fistful Of Datas", where he and Worf actually have some
*positive* interaction, rather than the endless and painful griping and
arguing they had in "Ethics" and "New Ground" (neither of which I liked).

(I wouldn't call "Rascals" a "portrayal" of Alexander, since he really served
no purpose as a character in that one; he was "just another kid" running
missions for Picard.)
-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"...I guess I'd rather have mediocre Star Trek then none at all."
				- A friend, about the ST:TNG episode "Legacy"
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST: TNG has gone down the toilet!
Date: 21 Nov 1992 04:21:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1ejua9INNepb@gap.caltech.edu> thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.214824.10026@sbcs.sunysb.edu> gkatz@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:
>>Here are more ST:TNG cliches I can do without:
>
>>Alexander, period.
>
>I don't know.  Is this kid that bad, or is it just the fact that he's a
>*kid* on ST that has everybody after his hide?  (Somebody should have
>told him what Wesley did to ST:TNG viewers' perceptions of children :)
>
>I've recently seen "Ethics" (repeat from last season), "Rascals", and
>"Fistful of Datas", all of which included parts for Alexander, and he
>seemed like a fairly believable kid to me.  (Maybe not a typical
>Klingon child, but then, he hasn't been raised as such.)

	I, too, think Alexander's gotten much better lately.  The Alexander
you see in Imaginary Friend, Rascals, and A Fistful of Datas is much easier to
take than the brat from hell in New Ground.  And I feel kind of guilty about
saying that, because Alexander was _supposed_ to be annoying, if only so you
felt some kind of empathy for Worf.  The Worf/Troi/Alexander counseling
sessions are something I don't want to see again, but Alexander has been quite
tolerable of late.

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