HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cookb@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: sex
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:53:25 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

hello

 sorry for the title but I need help and I wanted to get your attention

 I would like to get on channel Korea but I'm not sure how would someone out
there write and let me knoe how? thankyou.

Heungjea


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: vincek@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Vincent Kim)
Subject: Re: wife beating
Reply-To: vincek@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:15:56 GMT

/In article 11538, pmfisher@milton.u.washington.edu (Patrick
/Fisher) writes:

>    I thought that wife beating was a national sport in Korea.
>I saw it, heard it, and heard of it while living there.  


/From kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)

/I heard that women like it.  It's supposed to make them feel
/loved and wanted.  Some people say it's good for them.

/I don't know, though.  Maybe that's not true.


	It looks like both Mr. P. Fisher and K Giansante are freshman
	from U. of Washington. 

	Can anyone identify them???
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: No, there's no Nol-Ja-Nom (Korean-Playboy)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 16:08:01 GMT
Organization: What Org?

	That was a joke against the orig. posting that was looking
	for Korean Playboy, where I mentioned about Shim-HyeJin's
	being centerfold.

	Please stop sending me email looking for that imaginary
	magazine!

	Now on, I would not even reply to them; I'll just purge'em.

Thanks,
----
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: kwak@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nancy Kwak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Re-post of Korean Misogyny Statistcs Requested
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: kwak@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nancy Kwak)
Distribution: na
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1993Jan5.014342.26567@udel.edu> shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:
>What's up Dwight Joe?  Needs more references for your career in the net?
>I don't know a thing about Korean misogyny statistics if such a reliable
>things ever existed, but why not delve into something more reliable thing
>such as ethnocentricity of Koreans, for example.  I came across a December
>1992 issue of Dong-a Ilbo where a reader was making a case against 
>treatment Korean police was dispensing against Korean descendents from
>China (so, carriers of Chinese passport) as illegal aliens (shouldn't
>Korean government offer special treatment to those Korean descendents
>from China, after all they came to the land of their forefathers just to
>make some money doing menial jobs and now they suffer as illegal aliens,
>the reader was writing).  That could qualify as a case of Korean misogyny 
								  ^^^^^^^^
 	ur, excuse me and my perhaps-too-proper-use-of-semantics,
	but doesn't misogyny mean hatred of women?
	
>depending on who's talking about it, but then again, it's you, Dwight Joe.
[...]


nancy kwak
kwak@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: American Women and Careers (was: Re: My Thought on)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:14:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.150652.20976@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) writes:
> 
> this is the first time i've posted to this group; i'm a somewhat regular
> on and off in soc.culture.china, soc.culture.asian-american, and 
>
>[stuff deleted]

Is there such thing as soc.culture.asian-american?  I don't seem to be able
to select it from here.

hank
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: Guest@comm.mgmt.purdue.edu (changhun park )
Subject: Re: Aren't you sick of talking about TWO KIMs?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:30:29 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Krannert Graduate School of Management
Keywords: Discussion, Argumentation, Immorality deep inside

In article <Jan.7.19.42.25.1993.16848@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
>Subject: Re: Aren't you sick of talking about TWO KIMs?
>Keywords: Discussion, Argumentation, Immorality deep inside
>Date: 8 Jan 93 00:42:25 GMT
>Guest@comm.mgmt.purdue.edu (changhun park ) writes:
>
>
>>*** Even near here there are *tens of Kims*.
>
>Who cares about Kims in the net anyway?
>
>>    Some say: discussion.........
>
>>    Others say: they.......
>
>>    The <rest> say: 
>
>Speak for yourself with your very own words. 
>If you have a different opinion, say from your mouth, not referring to others.
> 
>>-------------------------------------------
>>chpark@vm.cc.purdue.edu
>>pchpark@ktrc.kotel.co.kr
>>___________________________________________
>>        
>
>Jung
>						
*** Let me clear some clouds, O-Key.
    The posted words employ a kind of *euphemism*;
    To wit, those are *my words* partly seconding your original post.
<<<<chpark@vm.cc.purdue.edu>>>>
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: RELIABILITY of POLLS in KOREA ???????
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:13:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan7.050022.65171@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MI
NHO JO) writes:



[Please disregard the first and second posts,  what a sily mistake]


I have been reading the heated discussions on polls in Korea.

Even if it is not really important to me,  I'd like mentioning something in
relation to the polls in Korea.


   Lemma 1:  The results of the polls in korea, are not really reliable.


         Proof:    The Korean people are reluctant to disclosing something
                   inside their minds (Presumably, they are still influenced
                   by the horrifying military regime. For instant, Gin-Geoub
                   -Jochi-Bub, Boanbub, You-Un-Bia-Bub, Bub, Bub, Bub
                   have kept something inside their mouth)

                  It definitely gives bad credits to the polls in Korea.


   Assumption 2:  The results are varying with which organization/company.
                  (Under assumption that Lemma 1 is false, i.e., the polls
                   are very reliable)

       Proof:    They believe that the results of the polls might
                 have a serious impact on the election.
                 If we see the current election raw prohibiting the
                 publication of the poll results,  we can be able to
                 tell how much they are scared with the results of the polls.
                 Correspondingly,  the results of the poll can possibly
                 be distorted,  or will not be announced unless the results
                 are in favor of a specific candidate.




With these backgrounds,  let's review two cases:

         1. Why did the YS's side (including his poll contractors, Gallup,
            and Korean Research Center)  NEVER announce that YS was
                lagging behind DJ right after the PUSAN scandal ?

         2. Why did the DJ's side make publications of the poll
                results of DJ's first leading YS right after the Pusan scandal.
                The DJ's side even used the results, a day before the election.

                (PS. The DJ's side was frankly announcing the poll results
                of DJ lagging behind YS)

Now what is the conclusion of the assumptions ?
Could I leave the conclusions to your nice logic function ?



                Minho Jo, Lehigh University
                Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
                Industrial Engineering Department


My ultimate goal is to build, "Warm-Hearted Human Integrated Society"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: ezez@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (009)
Subject: Han-Geul Software
Bpath: sun.soe.clarkson.edu!ezez
Keywords: Han-Geul
 Is there any Han-Geul software available for unix machines?
 If yes, how can I get it?
 Is it also capable of using Chinese characters?
 Thanks in advance.
 pls. reply to  'jsl@dirt.cee.clarkson.edu'
                 Jong Seh Lee
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:57:22 GMT
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  03  CREDIT CARDS
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:44:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>>>>>    Report for Traveling to Koryeo-Jung Restaurant    <<<<<<<<<<


I and my friends dropped in the Koryeo-Jung Restaurant,  located north of
Philadelphia last weekend.  I and my friends who all had empty pockets.
We ordered Korean foods as much as $180 plus $30 tips.
The foods included Gob-Chang Jun-Gol,  Ssoot-Bul-Gal-Bi, O-Ri-Tang,
Jang-A-Goo-Ea, and so blu blu.  I didn't forget to order 4 bottles of
Bohea Ssoju.  All of us enjoyed the terrific foods.  Their services were
satisfiable.

BYW,  something embarassing happened as we tried to pay for the foods.
A-Jeo-Ssi, the owner of Koryeo-Jung denied the O3 credit card which is
one of Rikiya Seung's credit cards.   He was saying that it was very
doubtable that the Egghead Bank issued the 03 credit card.
He insisted that the 03 credit card be a fake.  A-Jeo-Ssi was not right
until we called the customer service at 1-900-HONAM-DJDJ which is
a pay-per-call,  costs $10 for
the first minute, and $5 after.   He said that how come the Egghead could
issue the 03 credit cards and he said that it is nonsense.

Fortunately,  A-Jeo-Ssi gave me the information of Mr. Seung's another
credit card.  He knows about him very well since he is a Dan-Gol (familiar
customer).  Of course,  all checks were charged on his another credit card.
Here is the information:



             Credit Card Name:   03 Credit Card
                         Bank:   The Empty-Head Bank
                      Card # :   50 60 03 TK PK
              Expiration Date:   Valid until YS's head becomes bold like
                                 Mr. Jun.  You know him, don't you ?

             Customer Service:   1-800-MINJA-YSYS.


                For the 03 credit card,

                  Gold Member:   All of Minju San-Ak-Heoi members.
               Primier Member:   All the PK people
                 To be member:   All are eligible,  except Seoul,
                                 Choong-Chung, Kyoung-Gi, and Honam people
                                 who are named GGang-Tong by a SCK friend.



All of our SCK friends can use the Mr Seung's 03 credit card.  But, keep
in mind that Koryeo-Jung A-Jeo-Ssi said that they don't accept any
03 credit card since he is one of GGang-Tongs.


Take care and drive carefully on the slick road.


                         Minho Jo, Warm-Hearted Human
                         Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
                         Industrial Engineering Department
                         Lehigh University, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania
                         MJ03@Lehigh.edu

My ultimate goal is to build "Warm-Hearted Integrated Society"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: Han-jung Kim's mention about D.J
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:09:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.005354.21040@news.duc.auburn.edu> kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:

>
>

so to you the only lesson of this election is about poll,

I wish you learn other more important lessons (as other netters posted)
from this election.
From: lee@bohr.physics.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Han-jung Kim's mention about D.J
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:27:41 GMT

>Are there any other well-known survey company in korean excluding
>korean reaserch and korean gallup?  I wonder how many ther are and
>how accurate they are. 

>Because Survey system is so impostant for today's decision, I would rather
>have more information about the survey companies in KOREA.>

>I am really eager to understand how the assitant or the brains near DJ
>would think and how they made a plan to win. 

>They did not even know that DJ was led by YS from the beginning of
>the opening ballots and MINJU told they would win %1-5% just before
>the election.  WHAT A DUMB BRAINS OF DJ TO ME!!!! (not DJ but the
>consultant or election brains working for DJ.)

Of course, you are correct. Maybe the survey company you mentioned can be best in
Korea. All right. Let's suppose that DJ and his dummy campaign assistants didn't
believe the "true" poll.

So, do you think that makes DJ defeated?
That's my point. It didn't matter much in this election. 
We don't know they really distrust the poll or pretend to distrust. Is it
important? I think DJ camp did everything they could do. New DJ Plan was a good
idea to escape from the distorted image of himself and federation with the
progressive kept them from voting another candidate(like Bak Ki-Wan). Bak
couldn't take the votes from DJ. 
DJ make his votes stable and tried to take YS's and TK or old-ruling party's.
that was best stratage he can get.

Before saying "dummy" brains, you have think that how their "dummy" brains affects
this result of election carefully, with your not "dummy" brain.

I think that the regional hostility was the main cause of this election inspite
of their best tring. I think this is the political limit of DJ and he could not
help resigning. Busan scandal makes this hostility strong.

Again, the statistics shows some trends, but with only the statistics one can not
predict anything. To predict and apply the trends, one should know what cause
this statistics. this is the one of the well-known bases of science.
From: emzx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: A message to the Korean-American War.
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:12:46 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

I was brought to the U.S. when I was 10, so I have a decent(not a great) grasp
on some Korean ideals.

I don't understand all this beating nonsense - I've always been under the
impression that you resort to violence when you have nothing else left.  And
almost 99.9% of the time, there's something before slapping and kicking and
such.

I don't condone wife beating in any culture, whether Korean, American, or Outer
Mongolian, or let it be Mars for that matter.  I've always learned that hitting
other people is wrong, at least when we are grown-up adults.  I don't know
whether beating up kids is a good idea or not - sometimes necessary, like I
said, when there's nothing left.

Anyway - think about it this way, folks.  Some guy, I think it was Timothy Lee,
said that Korean husbands are devoted and will stick with a family even if
things aren't going too well.  And that's a good thing?  To raise kids in a
hostile environment, just for the sake of staying together?  I don't think so. 
And yes, the Americans have their problems too, there is a very high rate of
divorce, and I do believe much of that can be worked out before the lawyers
come barking.

So how about this: a compromise.  All you Korean males out there, if you are
the most caring of all races, take care of your women, but learn from the
Americans that beating anyone is not the right thing to do.  It's okay to fuse
two cultures together - that's what the U.S. is all about, to learn from the
different cultures and come out with the best thing possible.

I think it's a load of bullshit about Korean males being the best at loving and
taking care of women.  I've met enough Korean bastards to know that not
everything is always hunky-dorey.

The idea is not to be taking sides.  The idea is to think about what you are
doing, that tradition, although respected, is not blindly followed.  That's
what being in this country is all about.

-- 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"Start strong, end strong, and look for opportunities in the middle."
                              -S. O'Nan

Sung J. Woo, Secretary of The International Gridlocker Society

emzx@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Eyelid fold
From: babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon)
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:02:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Oops I must have missed the initial posting.
Let me get this straight:

Orientals have double eyelids and want single eyelids because it
makes them look caucasian.

Caucasians have single eyelids and want double eyelids because it
makes them look exotic.

Right ?

- jon
From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: My Thought on Wife Beating and more Thoughts...
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1it39eINNdcv
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article 11696, kwak@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nancy Kwak)
takes her best shot:

>In article <1int5tINN6cn@shelley.u.washington.edu>
>kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
>[...]
>>
>>But does it hurt?
>[..a lot more deleted]

>wow, kevin. you finally figured out how to delete control
>characters.
>good for you.


>nancy kwak
>cunixf.cc.columbia.edu

Wow, Nancy.  A topic you can really get your teeth into.

Now why don't you go piss up a rope?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: wyg9633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wooed Sun)
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:08:45 GMT

jwjang@kaist.ac.kr (Chang Jin-woong) writes:

>  Ronald H. Seung writes:
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I hope the kind of request I am about to make hasn't been mentioned on
>> this bulletin board, but anyway, my fashion-conscious sister wants to
>> have one of those "eyelid folding" surgery.
>>	..[deleted]..

>	..[deteled]..
>One can take the surgery from any "Seong-Hyung-Oe-Kwa".(sorry for
>	..[deteled]..


I thought that the proper response to Mr./Ms. Seung's articles would be
no response...   BTW, I enjoy his/her/their stories.
-- 
email : w-yang@uiuc.edu (wyg9633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: Re: PUSAN SCANDAL
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:41:02 GMT


In article <1993Jan5.195623.18858@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>,
shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.185818.16093@news.duc.auburn.edu>
kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:
> >
> >Before and After the pusan meeting, the korean GALLUP poll did not
> >show any change and MINJA did not mind about it. But
> >
> >
> 
> it tells that korean is not politically mature yet.
> 
So, you and voted-for-DJ people anly are politically mature.
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Personal feeling about Articles of Mr.Jo and Mr.Lee
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:29:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan3.203132.28703@seas.gwu.edu>, won@seas.gwu.edu (Won Lee) writ
es:
>In article <1993Jan3.033518.24285@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MI
NHO JO) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>        To Mr. Jo Minho and Mr. Lee Byung tae
>
>        First I want to say thanks to Mr. Jo and Mr. Lee.
>       I read all your articles carefully.
>       It was very interisting to me.
>        And your postings made me realise many things which I
>        could not figure out before. Even though, your artcles prohibit my
>        research :)


         Thank you for your concerns about my humble discussions.


>
>        I write just my personal feelings after read your articles.
>
>        I think everybody can blame to every politician include DJ and YS
>        DJ is one of outstanding politicians but he is not perfect.
>        I darely say one of DJ`s fail is because of that kind of persons
>        who support DJ without any criticism whatever he do/did.

         Baisaclly, I agree to it.
         Of course,  there are many aspects of DJ which must be re-evaluted
         and be blamed too.   There is no one who is perfect.


>
>        To me, Mr. Lee's article has more logic.
>        And he has better attitude. (maybe because of age)
>
>        He criticize DJ but he did not blame Mr.Jo personally.
>        But Mr.Jo named him "far-right-extremest" without reasonable reason.
>        and comment "pig and perl ....".


         As far as I know,  you are known to be in favor of YS (If I am wrong,
         please correct it).   I wonder if it is fair enough for YS's supporter
         to judge who is more logical and who has better attitude.  If you
         don't mind,  I wanna know your home town personally.

         And, I never said my age and any clue for it.
         I don't think that age is good criteria for attitude.  I guess that
         I am old as much as Mr. Lee (If you wanna know my age,  I am willing
         to tell it personally).

         You are misunderstood who commented "pig and perl" first.
         Please double-check it.




Take care.



>
>
>
>                  Minho Jo, Lehigh University
>                  Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
>                  Industrial Engineering Department
>                  MJ03@Lehigh.edu
>
>
>My ultimate goal is to build, "Warm-Hearted Human Integrated Society"
>
>##############################################################################

>
>
>--
>_______________________________________________________________
>Won  Lee                     Dept. of EE&CS
>won@seas.gwu.edu       The George Washington University
>
From: hpark@husc8.harvard.edu (hayn park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Sa-mul-nori
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:04:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.hpark.726735890

Does anyone know if they sell Chang-go (the drum that looks like an
hourglass, used in samulnori, poongmul, pansori, etc.) here in the US? 
I've been told that I could get one from Korea, but that trans-pacific
shipping is an enormous problem, particularly due to the fragile nature of
the drum.

Hayn Park
hpark@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: Errata: "Tal-Choom" (fig.) Rhon [1-4 of 4] articles
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:21:02 GMT

In article <93008.012354CHPARK@PURCCVM.BITNET> <CHPARK@PURCCVM.BITNET> writes:
>(4) a help from a brilliant guru may solve the problem.

I am neither.  But how about uuencoding and then posting?  There is
uuconvert program that smoothly combines back several files into the
original form.

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean