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From: sglanger@vela.acs.oakland.edu (LANGER STEVEN C)
Subject: Motif window problem
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:24:06 GMT

Hi netters;
  I have an Iris Indigo with the Xlib, Xt and Xmotif tools on it.
I'm trying to write an application that creates one big parent
window and a bunch of children windows that can move around inside of it,
but not move outside. In other words, I want the child windows to 
respect the borders of the parent, and if the parent is shrunk, I want
the children to be clipped.

  I have been using Adrian Nye's book on Xt/Motif programming and
set up the app using his topLevel and mainWindow method, but I can't
seem to find a way of using forms or RowColumn widgets to bind the
children to the parent. Any ideas?

P.S. Nye's book is volume 4 of the great X11 series.
-- 
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Oakland University		       sglanger@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ultrix)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: FAQ list update
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:05:09 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

Progress on the FAQ list for this group (comp.sys.sgi.graphics)
is coming along quite nicely.  At this point I'm sifting through
the (massive amount of) data that I collected over the weekend.

More submissions would be *very* welcome.  Send them to:
	graphics@holodeck.csd.sgi.com

With regards to new submissions, don't worry about format or
readability -- I'll edit them.

For those of you who may have missed the original post:

aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer) wrote:
> Unless there is already someone set up to do this, I will
> volunteer to maintain a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list 
> for this group.
> 
> Just a nice guy you might think?  Naah.  :-)  I work on the
> Hotline (TAC) in the Graphics group, and a well-maintained 
> FAQ document could be very useful both for this group AND 
> for customers who call the TAC.
> 
> I'll spend some time this weekend looking through all the random notes,
> newsgroup articles, and Hotline calls I've saved up, and post an initial 
> FAQ on monday.
> 
> It goes without saying, I'll need your input.  Q&A's, topic ideas, etc. 
> all would be very welcome.

Allan
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aschaffe@netcom.com
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: Window Manger Reporting of Iconified Windows
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:30:57 GMT

What device to you check for with qread to tell you a gl window has 
been stowed?  I tried REDRAWICONIC but that does not seem to be the
correct one.  Also, does it simply send a REDRAW when it is unstowed?

Thanks,

Fred Phelan
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Fred Phelan
fred@poly2.nist.gov
From: walker@owl.asd.sgi.com (Christopher Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: Stuff in libimage for RAM .sgi's
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:40:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: owl.asd.sgi.com


In article <BzDIC2.7wv@news.iastate.edu>, boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu writes:
> Are there any functions in the image library for dealing with
> ..sgi images that have been loaded into memory?  What I'd like to
> do is load the run-length-encoded .sgi image files into memory
> verbatim and _then_ do a memory-based getrow().
> 
> I don't know if there's a sneaky way to make the library think it's
> looking at a file pointer with it's really looking at a pointer to
> memory.

I don't know about libimage but our libil product (ImageVision Library) knows
how to do this sort thing very well.. you might want to check it out.

---
Chris Walker (x1106 or walker@sgi.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: mbr@bellcore.com (Mark Rosenstein)
Subject: GlxDraw widget with double and single buffering
Reply-To: mbr@bellcore.com (Mark Rosenstein)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown, NJ
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:35:06

I fear this is a FAQ, but is it possible to get double and single buffering
using the technology of GlxDraw widget. I understand how one has two windows
for overlay planes and normal planes, using GLXwinset to go between them,
but is it possible to have double
buffering be normal and single buffering be an auxilary window. 

If it isn't possible with the widget is it possible to have two normal
plane windows in the GLXconfig, and somehow get GLXgetconfig to do
the right thing?

Or is there yet another pathway to do this?

Thanks.

Mark.
=-=-=-=-=
Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow the talent
to the dark places where it leads.
     Erica Jong
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: FAQ list for comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:28:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

Unless there is already someone set up to do this, I will
volunteer to maintain a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list 
for this group.

Just a nice guy you might think?  Naah.  :-)  I work on the
Hotline (TAC) in the Graphics group, and a well-maintained 
FAQ document could be very useful both for this group AND 
for customers who call the TAC.

I'll spend some time this weekend looking through all the random notes,
newsgroup articles, and Hotline calls I've saved up, and post an initial 
FAQ on monday.

It goes without saying, I'll need your input.  Q&A's, topic ideas, etc. 
all would be very welcome.

Send any & all FAQ submissions to this address:
	graphics@holodeck.csd.sgi.com

Allan
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aschaffe@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au (James Wondrasek)
Subject: Re: RLE movie viewer
Reply-To: jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:34:58 GMT

wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris) writes:

 >
 >Is there a reason why you don't want to use getx11 -m on the Iris?
 >
 >Just curious...
 >

Ain't running X.

James

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: joel@jellotrees.esd.sgi.com (Joel Tesler)
Subject: Re: GlxDraw widget with double and single buffering
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:25:01 GMT

The only way to support both single and double buffering in mixed
model is to have two widgets, one in each mode.  Map or raise the
appropriate one.  (This is actually what pure GL does, only it does it
behing your back.  When using mixed model you need to do it yourself.)

Joel Tesler
joel@sgi.com
415-390-3048
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: brigc@world.std.com (Brig C McCoy)
Subject: Hiding tek window in xterm
Summary:  How to?
Organization: Soft-tek International, Wichita, KS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:25:43 GMT

Does anyone know the escape sequence for hiding the Tektronix window
when it's called while running an xterm?

...brig


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: bobbyc@surya.UWaterloo.CA (Bobby Chawla)
Subject: Xor line drawing
Reply-To: bobbyc@surya.UWaterloo.CA (Bobby Chawla)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:19:33 GMT

Could someone tell me how to draw a line on the SGI Indigos in 
Exclusive-Or mode?  

I would like to draw lines, and if the user does not require them,
then be able to erase them efficiently.

I was looking at the documentation and could not find it anywhere :-(.

Thanks
   Bobby Chawla
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: Xor line drawing
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:08:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

bobbyc@surya.UWaterloo.CA (Bobby Chawla) said..
>Could someone tell me how to draw a line on the SGI Indigos in 
>Exclusive-Or mode?  
>
>I would like to draw lines, and if the user does not require them,
>then be able to erase them efficiently.
>
>I was looking at the documentation and could not find it anywhere :-(.

check the manpage for "logicop(3G)"

Something like this should work:

	logicop (LO_XOR);
	bgnline();
		v3f(..);
		v3f(..);
	endline();
	logicop (LO_SRC)   /* back to default */

Allan
-- 
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aschaffe@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: cristy@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Cristy)
Subject: Re: RLE movie viewer
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:35:44 GMT

In article <jwwondra.724319050@yak> jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
>Does anybody know of a utility to play rle movies (made using rlecat) on
>an Iris? Getx11 has the -m option but there does not seem to be a similar
>option for get4d.

Try `animate' from contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu (also
just posted to comp.sources.misc).
-- 
cristy@dupont.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan)
Subject: Stuff in libimage for RAM .sgi's
Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:26:24 GMT

Are there any functions in the image library for dealing with
.sgi images that have been loaded into memory?  What I'd like to
do is load the run-length-encoded .sgi image files into memory
verbatim and _then_ do a memory-based getrow().

I don't know if there's a sneaky way to make the library think it's
looking at a file pointer with it's really looking at a pointer to
memory.

-- 
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Engineering Animation, Inc.,  Ames, IA  | and lost than just to have
(515) 296-9908 / (515) 296-7934 (> 5PM) | lost." -- Dorky Dog
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: Re: Window Manger Reporting of Iconified Windows
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:11:10 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.) said..
>What device to you check for with qread to tell you a gl window has 
>been stowed?  I tried REDRAWICONIC but that does not seem to be the
>correct one.  Also, does it simply send a REDRAW when it is unstowed?

WINFREEZE and WINTHAW.

Granted, the comment in <gl/device.h> is cryptic.

#include <gl/gl.h>
#include <gl/device.h>

void main()
{
	short dev, val;

	winopen ("test");
	qdevice (WINFREEZE);
	qdevice (WINTHAW);

	while (1)
	{
		dev = qread(&val);
		if (dev==WINFREEZE) printf ("Got WINFREEZE (stow) event\n");
		if (dev==WINTHAW) printf ("Got WINTHAW (open) event\n");
	}
}

Allan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: jchauvin@netcom.com (John H. Chauvin)
Subject: IRIS Font Manager: font scaling
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:25:28 GMT

Can someone tell me if the IRIS font manager is able to scale a font to 
a size which is not available, in the same way that PostScript does? 
For example, the font courier roman is available in the following 
sizes:8,10,12,14,16,18,20,24,32 as defined in the font directory 
/usr/lib/fmfonts. Is it possible to obtain sizes 11,13,15,and 19? The man 
page for fmscalefont says "If you request a size for which there is no 
font, the Font Library routines choose the font that matches closest but 
is not larger than the requested size." This does not sound like font 
scaling to me. This is the exact behavior I am experiencing in a gl 
program I am using. A font size of 15 points using courier looks like 14 
points. But another man page on fmscalefont says "Its functionality 
parallels the scalefont operator of PostScript." A font defined to be 15 
points using PostScript is definitely larger than 14 points. 

Font Confused


jchauvin@netcom.com

-- 
John H. Chauvin jchauvin@netcom.COM
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.graphics
From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Ghost Windows
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:30:30 GMT

I am having problems with multiple windows. Whenever
I push a window, that window's afterimage sticks around
and disappears after my other window completes drawing.
For the life of me, I can't seem to find a solution to
fix that. 
Does anyone know what to do?
-- 

Tarun Kripalani (of Permanent Wounded Knee )
e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
From: long@vax.ox.ac.uk (Neil J. Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Patch program
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:24:19 GMT

HI
Could anyone point me to where I can get the source to compile patch.
I have tried archie and cannot seem to find it.
Thanks
Neil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: feil@prl.philips.nl (Hans Feil)
Subject: can't ftp from terminator.niehs.nih.gov ?!
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:48:58 GMT


Last week there was a message from Bill Henderson about 
SGI Anonymous FTP archives including:

terminator.niehs.nih.gov	192.41.200.12
		/pub				MULTI 3.0 (Multi-Process
						Molecular Modeling Suite)


The problem is that I can't reach this site.
Is this machine down??

Does someone recognizes this problem. (and has a solution.....)


Hans Feil
Philips Research Labs
Eindhoven 
The Netherlands
feil@prl.philips.nl

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rogerj@cs.cornell.edu (Roger Jagoda)
Subject: comp.sys.sgi.admin comp.sys.sgi.hardware comp.sys.sgi.misc
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:14:11 GMT

Fellow SGIers,
 

 We just got some new Indigos. I must say we are impressed!
 Very fasy machines. BUT, the documentation is pretty
 poor.

 We want to add a BOOTABLE 1G drive to one machine.
 We have tried dvhtool AND a direct sash copy (from ROM) from the
 OEM bootable disk (the small 236 ST1280 that comes with the
 machine) but no luck. We tried:

 dvhtool -v create /stand/sash sash
				
   				That wanted to know
				starting end ending blocks
				which of course we couldn't
				tell it. How does one know
				where to start and end.

We just want to make a bootable disk! For those
familiar with DEC/Ultrix, we want to do the equivalent
of /etc/newfs (which installs bootblocks) or for SUN
folks out there the equivalent of installboot. How
do you tell IRIX to install the needed things into the volume
header of a new disk to make THAT disk bootable. It
can't be too hard.

We WERE able to read the vol header though, the the disk
was made correctly at least and it is mountable, but
not bootable...:-(

If it's in TFM, just point us, we'll be glad to use them, but
we already spent four days hacking and the manuals don't have
this info!

Thanks much in advance!

--Roger Jagoda
Cornell University
rogerj@cs.cornell.edu
From: engel@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: PAL on a SG screen?
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:24:24 GMT

Hello netters,
How can one exactly set the Silicon Graphics screen to a PAL type?
Using setmonitor(PAL); alone makes the screen black.
Thanks for your answer,
Micky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: cook@bebop.esd.sgi.com (Doug Cook)
Subject: Re: Audio Format
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:50:49 GMT


In article <9760@storyteller.avrl.mei.co.jp>, okada@av2.avrl.mei.co.jp writes:
> 
> What about the new machine with R4400?  Is the audio interface going
> to be the same with Indigo using 56001?

From a software perspective, we are committed to maintaining binary
compatibility with Indigo Audio Library programs on audio platforms
for the foreseeable future.

	-Doug

Doug Cook  	(cook@sgi.com)		| 
Software Engineer, ISD Digital Media    |    "Exuberance is Beauty."
Silicon Graphics, Inc.			|		-Wm. Blake
From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: newgroup comp.sys.sgi.announce moderated
Date: 12 Dec 92 09:34:48 GMT

comp.sys.sgi.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 181:29 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 4 Nov 1992.

Group submission address:   sgi-announce@dcdmjw.fnal.gov
Moderator contact address:  sgi-announce-request@dcdmjw.fnal.gov
                                                        (Matthew Wicks)

For your newsgroups file:
comp.sys.sgi.announce	Announcements for the SGI community. (Moderated)

The charter, culled from the call for votes:

  announce      general announcements (conferences, user groups, ftp
                archives, etc)
From: ubjta56@ucl.ac.uk (Dr P Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: problems with remote display
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:06:31 GMT


Hi,
	when I do the weekly backups on our two machines I normally rlogin to 
one machine (the one not one my desk) su to root and then run vadmin. 

	This week when I tried to run vadmin I got the folowing message:

	Xlib:  connection to "dublin:0.0" refused by server
	Xlib:  Client is not authorized to connect to Server
	Error: Can't Open display

What causes this ? How do I 'authorize' the connection? 

How do I fix it so that i don't have to physically log onto the
machine I want to back up?  

Thanks, in advance, Paul
From: walver@kielo.uta.fi (Ville V. Walveranta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: SGI workstations in the schools?
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:31:51 GMT
Reply-To: walver@uta.fi (Ville Walveranta)
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland



        Are the Silicon Graphics workstations (Personal IRIS,
        INDIGO...) in use in any college as a primary teaching/lab tool
        in the computer graphics/animation department?

        How about apps like Alias, TDI Explore, SoftImage, Creative
        Licence...? Any schools?

        -- Willy
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From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Kerberos and IRIX
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:16:36 GMT


	In conjunction with a client, I'm in the process of integrating the
Kerberos authentication protocol into the VAX/VMS operating system.  At this
client site, there are a number of SGI workstations, running IRIX v4.x.  Since
a number of VAX users also have SGIs at their desks as well, we thought it
would be interesting to incorporate Kerberos as well into the SGIs, and thus
offer the ability to eliminate the "multiple-password" game for those users
that wish it.

	Since I am not as familiar with SGI as I am with VMS, would anyone
please comment to me on the idea of incorporating Kerberos into the SGI
workstations?  Are the various deamons customized enough for IRIX as to make
the MIT-supplied versions difficult, if not impossible, to implement?

	Thanks in advance...

-- 
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Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: suh@rainbow.dcrt.nih.gov (Edward Suh)
Subject:  undefined symbol error: term, spal
Reply-To: suh@rainbow.dcrt.nih.gov
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:24:19 GMT

I am trying to compile a program called "vile" and gets
undefined symbol error of "term" and "spal" at the link
time. Has anybody compiled "vile" on the SGI?  Is there
a library comparable to -lterm on the SGI? 

I would appreciate if someone advice me.  "vile" is an 
emac like vi clon program.

---------------------------------------------------------
Edward B. Suh			Phone: (301) 402-3045
Bldg. 12A, Rm. 2021		Internet: suh@alw.nih.gov
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892
From: gaumondp@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Gaumond Pierre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Bug in ls -L ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:02:34 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

if I do (on csh):

% ls -l /usr/bin/vi
l---------   1 root     sys            2 Mar 29  1992 /usr/bin/vi -> ex
% ls -L /usr/bin/vi
/usr/bin/vi

The man pages for ls say about "-L" parameter:

     -L   If the file is a symbolic link, list the file that the link
          references.

I should have obtained "/usr/bin/ex" with the ls -L commabd. Is it a bug?
Is there something I did not understand?

Thanks for any information.

-- 
Pierre Gaumond.        gaumondp@ERE.UMontreal.CA
Services Informatiques, Universite de Montreal. 
C.P. 6128, Succursale "A", Montreal,            
Quebec, Canada.   H3C 3J7
From: akin@tuolumne.asd.sgi.com (Allen Akin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Windows NT on base Indigo
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:10:14 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: tuolumne.asd.sgi.com


Just to add to Dave's observations...

The October beta of NT comes with support for a few common TCP/IP-based
tools, including ftp, telnet, and rcp.  We use these in-house at SGI,
and they seem to work fine.  I transfer files from my Indigo running
IRIX to my MIPS Magnum 4000 running NT every day.

I'm told that a company called FTP is developing a good NFS package.
With that installed on your NT systems, you could use an Indigo
running IRIX as a file server.

Allen
From: achim@video1.han.de (Joachim Gothe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Changing NIS-Master ?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: achim@video1.han.de  (Joachim Gothe)
Organization: Mix Broadcast Video and Computer
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel1

Hi folks,

is there an easy way, to change the NIS-Server or must I rebuild the
NIS-Server and the NIS-Slave-Server.

Our NIS-Server will go to an other department, and the new mashine
just arrived.

Thanks,

Achim

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