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Subject:    ISO F BUKOWSKI FANS

NY M ISO F (PREF FEMINIST) BUKOWSKI FANS FOR E-MAIL PEN PALS.
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:59:15 EST
From:         SLREVIEW@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Lev Navrozov
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        Does someone know what became of Lev Navrozov since the publication
        of his _The Education of Lev Navrozov_? Is a second volume going to
        appear? Is he still living in Isra'el?

        Many thanks,

        Haim Shaul & Addison Howe
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:23:25 -0700
From:         Azael Barrera <barreraa@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: WPWIN - GRAMMATIK USE

Bruce:
Are you using the Grammatik that came with WP5.2?
I installed that one and works fine... And there is no conflict with
RightWriter. RWW is accessed from Macros, while GMKW is accessed from
Tools.
It may be that a different GMKW won't work unless it's the version
bundled with WP5.2Win.  Try re-installing the bundled one.

Azael.-
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:17:00 IST
From:         AVISHAI ANTONOVSKY <KPUAV@HUJIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      A question about Windows in general

Hi,
This is not directly related to WP, but I thought having working with
Windows some of you might have encountered the following problem:
When I try to run a Windows application using Windows 3.1 in standard mode
(I don't know if it has anything to do with the mode), I sometimes get
application error messages. For example, when I try to enter the file
manager, I get, more often than not, the message:
         |---------------------------------------------|
         |                Application Error            |
         |                                             |
         |Winfile caused a General Protection Fault in |
         |module USER.EXE at 0008:08D9                 |
         |                                             |
         |                 |-----|                     |
         |                 |close|                     |
         |                 |-----|                     |
         |---------------------------------------------|

Another example is when I run "After Dark" (a screen saver). It gives the
same message, this time for module COMM.DRV at 0002:03EB. However, in this
case it waits 10-15 seconds after running the program before it halts.
Most of the time I just click on the "close" box and continue working
(giving up the program I wanted to run); sometimes it just locks the whole
system.
Any suggestions?
I'd appreciate replies to my address: <KPUAV at HUJIVM1.BITNET>.
Thanks!
Avishai Antonovsky
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
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Subject: Re: Those ATM WP- fonts on 5.2... oof!
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:44:30 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
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In article <9212161959.AA55892@lamar.ColoState.EDU>, Azael Barrera <barreraa@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU> writes:
> Well, fellows. I tried 5.2. I am satisfied but not fulfilled. Some may
. 
> What should we expect on 6.0 (WPCorp listen!):
> 
>   A full featured clip-art editor/creator (eg. a subset of Presentations)
>   A drop cap enhanced feature (5.2 still falls short)
>   A set of 25 True Type fonts ready to run from inside WPWin
>   (it may include a Printer/Screen Driver 10 times better then Win's)
>   A graph/chart editor to enhance imported graphs/charts
>   (and for that matter a plot editor to enhance imported HPGL & HPGL/2 plots)
>   A comprehensive Macro Manual (instead of the crap file you have to
>   print!) a la Workbook perhaps.
>   A user-configurable thesaurus/dictionary
>   A few configurable dialog boxes for the most used features (perhaps
>   through a set of new macros)
>   A ruler/button graphic editor, so you can configure your top bars the
>   way you like it (colors, fonts, art, etc) instead of having to go back
>   to the win.ini wp.ini files and all that mess.
> 
     AND TRUE WYSIWYG (ie. show the damn footnotes, pagenumbers.)
From: aa447@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fr. Tom Cleaton)
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Subject: Re: Gram 5 trouble
Date: 28 Dec 1992 21:14:08 GMT
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I could not get Gram5 to load from WPWin either.  When I called
WP they told me that it will not work from WPWin if you are using
the CUA keyboard, which I was.  When I switched to the WP5.1
keyboard, Gramm5 showed up fine.
-- 
"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum"
Fr. Tom Cleaton (aa447)
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From: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Spaz)
Subject: Default date format
Originator: charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 23:53:49 GMT

  Hello,

	I'm using wpwin51, and I'm trying to change the default display for
the date.  But each time I think I've done it, and I exit then re-enter wpwin,
I get standard date defualt when I insert the date into the document.

	Can someone clue me in as to what I'm doing wrong.

thanks

Spaz

 ******************************************************************************
 ** Those who are labeled Crazy, Insane, or Weird are those who refuse to go **
 ** with the flow of the social norm. And so long as the norm is dictated by **
 ** the narrow minded, I too shall refuse.				     **
 ** 				  -- Spaz, charon@zephyr.cair.du.edu         **
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:36:00 LCL
From:         "Betker, Capt Bruce" <BETKER.TIC@COMMLAN.SAFB.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Gram 5 trouble

Bruce,

     My GM5 work fine so I'll give you the setting I have in my INI
files.

In the win.ini file under

[extensions]
prf=c:\gmkw ^.PRF        // The gmkw would be the default installation
dir

In the wpc.ini under

[WPWP -3rd]

GM5=c:\WPWIN\wpwpgm5.dll  // Again the default dir where the dll file is

Also the autoexec.bat file should have the following set command

set GMKW5=C:\GMKW   // Default dir

All of the directories are the default directories.  If you installed GM5
to a different directory you will need to change.

     I hope this works for you.

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From: jdaves@triton.unm.edu (Jonathan Daves-Brody)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.wpwin-l
Subject: Re: WP Table changes word spacing??
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:36:18 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec30.052305.1398@trantor.dso.gov.sg> kkimchio@trantor.dso.gov.sg (Kwa Kim Chiong) writes:
>When I include a table in the document, the word spacing seems to have
>widened. I can only see half the line in the screen. Does anybody have
>similar experience, and how it can be solved? Thanks in advance.

I've had it do that on a number of occasions when doing all kinds of different
things.  What I do is click on the 'zoom' button, any value except the current
one, then click on the 'zoom' button using 'page width' (or whatever the
actual words on the menu are - I don't remember exactly).  Clumsy, but it
works. . .
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:43:05 CST
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From:         David Child <U49923@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WP Table changes word spacing??

Without thinking about the fact that I was in WPWIN and not DOS, I
automatically hit Ctrl-F3 (screen rewrite in DOS) when my table first did
that "screen expander" to me.  It worked!  The screen shrank to a more
viewable size.  Anyone else tried some of the "old" combinations and found
that some of them still work?
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:34:33 IST
From:         Shlomo Sela <P84018@BARILVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Subscription

Please inform me how to subscribe to this list

Shlomo Sela
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:26:29 EST
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From:         emcnamar%sedofis@SED.BITNET
Subject:      RE: GRAMMATIK PROBLEM

I had the identical problem and was going to call WP support. Hwowever, I del
ayed a day and found that the problem disappeared after cold boot. (Obvious w
hen you think about it: the new path in Autoexec.bat isn't recognized till yo u
reboot.
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From: kkimchio@trantor.dso.gov.sg (Kwa Kim Chiong)
Subject: WP Table changes word spacing??
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:23:05 GMT

When I include a table in the document, the word spacing seems to have
widened. I can only see half the line in the screen. Does anybody have
similar experience, and how it can be solved? Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:32:31 -0500
From:         Joseph Zupko <ah238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Wish list for 6.0

I want button pictures that I can pick or make for the macros
that I assign to the button bar.

--
        It may not be today, or tomorrow but the truth will comeout.


 AH238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU                            --------->>>>>>>>>>JAZ
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:40:06 EST
From:         Ethel Tobach <ETTGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      vacation

      Sorry to trouble you all...no information about how to do this...
           Please drop me from the list: 12/21/92 through 1/4/93.

                                     Thank you.  Ethel Tobach ettgc@cunyvm
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Re:        territories
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:27:21 EST
From:         Michael Tlusty <MFTLUSTY@SUVM.BITNET>

I found a 1967 paper by Raymond Stefanski, and am
forwarding half of the introduction.

Stefanski RA (1967)  Utilization of the breeding territory
in the black-capped chickadee.  Condor 69:259-267

"The fascination of Noble's (1939) definition of territory (i.e. any
defended area) has conventionalized and limited thinking in this area of
ornithology for the past several decades (Emlen 1957:352).  The adherence
to this definition resulted in an intensive search for a single function
for all types of territoriality.  Recent reviews (Hinde 1956, Kuroda 1960)
have indicated a growing awareness of the futility of seeking a single
explanation for this complex social behavior.
     The disagreement concerning the biological significance of
territorial behavior stems partly from the lack of quantitative studies.
This deficiency prompted Hinde (1956) to conclude that no real progress had
been made in this area since Howard brought the concept of territoriality
to the attention of ornithologists in 1920."

What do list-member think?  Have we made any progress since 1920?
Based on the previous discussion of this list, I am not so sure.
Maybe we just know less about more.
Peace to all in the new year...............Michael
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:54:02 -0500
From:         Martha_Dunham@POSTOFFICE.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      territorial advances
Comments: To: Ethology <ETHOLOGY%FINHUTC.BITNET@BROWNVM.brown.edu>

>What do list-member think?  Have we made any progress since 1920?
>Based on the previous discussion of this list, I am not so sure.
>Maybe we just know less about more.
>Peace to all in the new year...............Michael

Well, I think we've made some progress, though maybe not in clarifying the
definition.  Cost-benefit theory has introduced a framework in which
quantitative studies are possible.  Because the study of behavior has
become more widespread, we know a lot more about the range of behaviors
that can, under some definition, be considered "territorial."  No question
that we have a long way to go before we understand what we mean when we
talk about territoriality, though...

In peace,
M
_________________
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:32:26 CST
From:         Lonnie Schubert <S096556@UMRVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Question follow-up

I really would like some help on the Greek in the passages I
mentioned in Hebrews and John.

If it is not possible to reply before Tuesday evening, please
mail me at s096556@umrvma (s096556@umrvma.umr.edu).

Thanks,
Lonnie
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:33:18 EST
From:         "SHELBY A. CROSS" <LIBSAC@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:OUR BABY 1ST LOOK-IAN

Dear Ian,

I remember when you and Wolfgang announced that you would becoming parents
around the same time.  I remember when I first saw my daughter on the ultra-
sound.  I kept the picture and still cherish it - my daughter is now 15 years
old.  They grow up so fast.  I'm glad the baby is doing well.  I know you're
excited now to see the little one - anticipation.....(Smile).  Have a blessed
Christmas and a joyous New Year to you and your wife.

Dear Heavenly Father,

We thank and praise You for Your marvelous creation.  Please continue to pro-
tect this precious soul and we thank You in advance for a beautiful, healthy
baby.  In Jesus Name we pray.  Amen and Amen.

Your sister in Christ,

Shelby--
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:55:36 EST
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From:         Brenda Curry-White <BSCURR01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Babies & stuff (was: Re: Operation Pest)

Center for Urban and Economic Research
Phone: 502-588-6626

Russ says, "As for finding out the sex of the baby, we want to be surprised,
but it's gonna be tough to watch the sonogram and not want to find out..."

Be surprised!  David didn't want me to know because I wanted a girl badly
(my parents had 5 grandsons and no granddaughters).  He was afraid I would
be depressed during pregnancy if I found out it was going to be a boy.  As soon
as Sarah was born, they put her on my stomach.  But her leg was in the way,
and I couldn't tell what she was.  I had to ask, and someone said, "It's
a girl!" and everyone in the room, even all the nurses, went "aahhhh!"  It
was so special to be surprised, and it would have been a wonderful moment
even if she had been a boy.  She's four months old now, rolling and scooting
all over the floor.  You are in for the treat of your lives.

Brenda
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:54:42 -0700
From:         "Gordon C. Zaft" <zaft@CARITAS.COTDAZR.ORG>
Subject:      Re: CS LEWIS

On Dec 31,  8:06am, Ian Williams wrote:
} Subject: CS LEWIS - UNAUTHORDOX?
}
} I dont know about you, but that seems to be a pretty way off, far out and
} just about errornous view of the Holy Spirit. He is not just some wishy washy
} manifestation of the Love between the Father and the Son, He is GOD!
} CO-EQUAL with the Father and the Son, a person in his own right, not the
} result of something. A full sharer in the divine personality..
}                      |         v   |
}-- End of excerpt from Ian Williams

Ian,
        CS Lewis wasn't in any way denying the deity of the Holy Spirit;
rather, he was attempting in some way to explain the nature of the Trinity.
Naturally, any such attempt will be incomplete at best, but his is, I
think, one of the better ones.

GZ


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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:49:04 -0500
From:         Braden Glen <d246@UNI05.LARC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      From C S Lewis- About Christian Life

 'God has not been trying an experiment on my faith or love in order to find
out their quality. He knew it already. It was I who didn't. In this trial He
makes us occupy the dock, the witness box, and the bench all at once. He always
knew that my temple was a house of cards. His only way of making me realize
the fact was to knock it down.'
                                 _A Grief Observed_ ch 3

  'One is given strength to bear what happens to one, but not the 100 and 1
different things that MIGHT happen.'
                                _Unpublish Letter_ (3 August 1956)

  'I am , indeed, far from agreeing with those who think all religious fear
barbarous and degrading and demand that it should be banished from the spiritual
 life. Perfect love, we know, casteth out fear. But so do several other things-
ignorance, alcohol, passion, presumption, and stupidity. It is very desirable
 that we should all advance to that perfection of love in which we shall fear
no longer; but it is very undesirable, until we have reached that stage, that
we should allow any inferior agent to cast out our fear.'
                                _The World's Last Night_ ch 7

  'Though we struggle against things because we are afraid of them, it is often
the other way round-we get afraid BECAUSE we struggle.'
                                _Unpublish Letter_ (17 June 1963)


In His Love
Glen

 Glen A Braden                           D246@uni05.larc.nasa.gov
 System Analyst                          wk 804 865-9387
 UNISYS                                  hm 804 851-6530

 'By and by when I look at His face, beautiful face, thorn scarred face,
    By and by when I look at His face, I'll wish I've given him more...'
                                              -Hymn,
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:46:00 EST
From:         "DRCV06::GRAHAM" <GRAHAM%DRCV06.decnet@DRCVAX.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Interrupting a worship service.

The argument is being made that Operation Rescue is in no way li ke Act Up
because their tactics are different.  I couldn't care less about Act Up in
this context, no comparisons need be made in order to indict Operation
Rescue.

The simple facts are that people who call themselves Christians were
engaging in the disruption of a Christian worship service, how they did it
is irrelevant.

I can hardly imagine a person who considers themselves a Christian doing
such a thing.  I won't go so far as to say that the O.R.people couldn't be
Christians, but such actions surely put their sincerety in question.

Jesus said that where two, three or more are gathered in His name, He is in
their midst.  How can somebody who claims to be a follower of the Master
justify the interruption of such a service?  To say that the particular
church in question was engaging in non-Christian things regarding their
teen sexuality seminars is a poor excuse at best.  Christians are called to
a state of deportment that is above the rabble, but such actions reduce
Christians to rabble in the world's eyes.  And, I don't mind telling you,
it reduces them to rabble in the eyes of many Christians, too.

Let's stop defending Operation Rescue and see it for what it is, a Satanic
delusion that is tearing Christians away from their God.


Dan Graham
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:28:30 -0500
From:         Dan Harling <harling@ROADRUNNER.PICTEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Assisted suicide

> Date: 21 Dec 1992 09:39:14 -0500 (EST)
> From: TQX%CORNELLC.BITNET@asu.edu
> Subject: Assisted suicide
> To: Multiple recipients of list CHRISTIA <CHRISTIA%ASUACAD.BITNET@asu.edu>
>
>    In a little village not far from where I live, a despondent teenager
> and one of his friends who was a little older were talking. Apparently
> the older boy tired of his friends negativity and handed him a rifle
> and told him that he might as well end it all and walked away. The
> younger boy then did exactly that. The older youth is now serving
> a prison sentence for assisting a suicide in spite of the fact that
> he said he only joking. A subsequent appeal was turned down and the
> sentence was allowed to stand. There are laws, at least in New York
> State, against facilitating a suicide.

Dang, wouldn't you think he'd feel bad enough *without* a jail
sentence?  Imprisonment or no, I'd be devastated by what had happened
if I had jokingly made the suggestion and then seen him follow up with
it.  I'm his friend, after all!  That ploy works all the time in the
movies; how was I supposed to know he felt *that* bad?

If it's true that he was only joking, then I can see how one might
accuse him of insensitivity, or impropriety, but of facilitating a
suicide?  Certainly not intentionally.  It's not like he was the kid's
psychologist, a professional who is trained and expected to see the
warnings and know how to tread lightly through someone else mind.

People are already loath to stop at the scene of an accident, because
they can be held responsible for any injuries they cause, no matter how
noble their intentions.  If you were to extricate someone who was
trapped in a burning car, and you twist their ankle in the process, you
can be sued (I have heard of a similar occurrence).  Legally speaking,
you are better off leaving him trapped in the car, because "failure to
render assistance" is harder to enforce.

With predecents like this, soon nobody will want to listen to anyone's
problems, for fear of being implicated as an accessory to their
successful or attempted suicide.  "Yes, I did talk to him about his
problems one week before he took his life."  "Thank you.  The
prosecution rests, your honor."  Pretty scary, huh?
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                   PictureTel Corp. (so there!)
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