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From: icpa@iat.holonet.net (Tony Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
Subject: International Software Jobs
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:31:50 GMT
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon)
Subject: Re: Girls around the world
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:29:16 GMT

chris@iastate.edu (Chris WONG) writes:

>In article <BvGrKq.I17@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
>>
>>	Girls and women is definitely one of the most favorite topics for 
>>guys and men.  I wonder how males look at female in different corners of
>>the world.  Originally I am from Hong Kong, a materialistic city.  I

>Materialistic city? What do you mean?
>I'm from Hong Kong. Not all people are materialistic in Hong Kong.
>There are materialistic people in other country or cities too.

>>observe that guys become more timid and introvert over the last ten years
>>, while the girls become more aggressive and self-centered.  Is it a 
>>general trend over the world?

>Not all... again...
>I'd say the one used to be aggressive became more aggressive... so forth...

>>	Perhaps no so many people would read this newsgroup, but if you
>>happen to be one of the rare readers, please tell me what you think about
>>girls in your country.
>>
>>						Peter, UIUC
>>
>>

Chris and Readers,

	Of course, if you insist to find a counterexample to refute my
claim, you are definitely going to find one.  Like everyone, I am limited
to my knowledge, the environment I am living at, and the people I am
hanging out with.  There is no reason to believe or disbelieve what I see
and feel "is" THE general picture. 

	If you have gone back to Hong Kong recently, you would find out
how the youngster spend money like pouring water.  They can spend their
"total" wage earned during summer job to buy a pair of shoes.  TV programs
like "Hung Cheung Chap" repeatedly reports similar examples.  I don't care
what other cities are like; I just want to point out that Hong Kong is 
indeed a materialistic city.

	As far as the girls are concerned, many people may disagree with me
because the definition of "aggressive" is so vague.  Let me explain to the
readers who are not familiar with Ho Ka Lai or Lamb Shan Shan.  There are two
famous female DJ in HK called Ho Ka Lai and Lamb Shan Shan (Last names: Ho 
and Lamb)  They have some English names but I forget.  Anyways, they are
so popular because they are very good at insulting people, and people love
the way they talk.  Boys and girls, not all but a lot of them, imitate the
way Ho and Lamb talk.  It is what I meant aggressive.

	Of course, it is ridiculous to put all the responisibilties on only
2 DJ's.  While they are affecting people, they are actually responding to
the need of the market.  People, especially girls, are looking for a way of
talking to defend as well as offend people.  People become more indifferent
and self-centered.  Ho and Lamb are just speaking out what people want to
hear about.

	If you find similar things are happening in your area, please join
the discussion.

						Peter, UIUC

 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: hstewar1@purcell.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart)
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:27:39 GMT


>Thank god it was Derek Walcott and not V.S. Naipaul who got the
>price. I must say, Naipaul has weathered down with old age. :)
>
>Jule

Whatever happened to Naipaul's Nobel Prize prospects.  I remember that in themiddle eighties he was a strong favourite for the prize.  I have never liked V.S. but I still hoped he would get the prize.  It would have been interesting to see the Caribbean reaction, because, like it or not (whether Naipaul
likes it or not), he is one of us.  And anyone who likes literature cannot
deny his immense talent and stature.

No, I'm NOT Trini, I'm Jamaican.
From: fevrier@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Ian Fevrier (EE))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Any life out there.
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:48:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of South Florida, College of Engineering


Calling all St. Lucians !!!. If there are any fellow St. Lucians (and others
of course) I would like to hear from you all.
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: making contact follow up
Keywords: BROTHER'S NAME
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:21:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

TO: ROY SEIVWRIGHT OF FSU
    I AM SORRY I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT MY BROTHER'S NAME IS
    DEAVON REID.  That will make it more easier for you.
    Thanks in advance.

	IVOR REID
	EAS DEPT.
	SUNY AT BUFFALO 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: steubrow@wam.umd.edu (Sharon Teuben-Rowe)
Subject: CARIBBEAN DESCENT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Education
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:09:04 GMT

While I was not born in the Caribbean, I am of recent Caribbean descent.

Sharon Teuben-Rowe	        Hackney, England, UK - Jamaica & Cuba

(Presently residing in Maryland)  Hablo espanol and 'Queen's English' and
some truly raw chaw patios.


Sh. BbWI (British born West Indian)
From: rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Guyana Elections
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:08:31 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Oct07.174142.10237@bnr.ca> cliffs@crchh448.BNR.CA (Cliff Shivcharan) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>Anyway, the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. The much maligned dentist is back. Whether
>he has the all the answers is left to be seen. What is worrying is
>whether there
>will be a peaceful transition of power.

I was talking to my father this morning (who is Guyanese) and he expressed
your latter concern. The likes of Green will not give up the power they've
had for so long so easily. I fear it may not be all over yet.

What was good about this election was the toppling of racial politics which
Burnham cultivated. From what I heard it seems that Jagan got strong support
from predominantly black constituencies - there does not seem to be any
indication that what occurred in the 60's will happen this time (though
it seems Green and Co. are trying to stir up the specter of race politics
to suit their ends - I think most Guyanese see through this though).

Does anyone know Sam Hinds position in Jagan's party? I know of him from my
days in Linden - he was in charge of the R&D unit at Guymine.

BTW, are they any past QC students out there (I was there during the Trotz
era '77-'79).

Robert
From: alleyne@mercury.ics.uci.edu (Brian D. Alleyne)
Subject: Carnival in Trinidad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Reply-To: alleyne@ics.uci.edu (Brian D. Alleyne)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Keywords: Carnival
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:13:48 GMT

Hi all,
Anyone knows when Carnival is next year?

Brian

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   		alleyne@ics.uci.edu

	Put your favo(u)rite saying here...
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--
Brian D. Alleyne
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:51:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Oct8.123729.21425@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
>Just heard on the CNN headline news that Trinidadian Dereck Walcott was
>awarded the nobel prize for literature. Can anyone post some background
>on Walcott?
>
>This news made my day, to say the least!
>

I'm sure it made his too :)  The prize comes with $1.2 million.  

All I know is that he devides his time teaching literature at a U. in Boston
and the Caribbean.  Heard him on the radio this morning, sounded like a cool
dude.  He said it really hasn't sunk in yet, because he hasn't put down the 
phone since the announcement was made :)  With calls from relatives, friends
and newspapers he hasn't been able to get off the phone and let it sink in.

He DID say that $1.2 million is an enormous amount of money -I'd say :)

I guess he'll go down in history 'cause I'm not sure there's been another
Nobel Prize winner from the Caribbean, of course I've been wrong before :)



Evans D Curtis
Office of Academic Computing
University of California - Irvine
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:53:13 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct7.030551.15150@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> lashlepi@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Phillip Lashley) writes:
>Second things second.  Having established that all of us (no, make it most -
it have a lot of expatriates) are of some mixed back ground, is it remotely 
possible that we may now get together and find other similarities, including 
a common economic objective.
>Phil

	Common economic objective? Like Caricom? Like the OECS nation some
islands are talking about? Or just the fact that tourism is becoming every-
thing in the Caribbean? What lies in the future of the Caribbean, economically
speaking?



-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
opnsimon@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: duqu@quads.uchicago.edu (walter bismarck duque de estrada)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:45:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Oct12.204519.12955
Reply-To: duqu@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


Walter Duque de Estrada from Bayamon, Puerto Rico

(via New College, Sarasota and Pritzker School of Medicine, Chicago)
From: rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Shabba's new album
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:57:36 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <HDD8RB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
>
>> Has anyone heard the new album from Shabba? How does it compare with
>> the `Raw ...' album (I only liked two tracks on that - the ones with 
>> KRS-1 and Maxi Priest House Calls)?
>
>Ah weh it be call?  How we be makin' comparisons wit a kiss-me-arse
>no-name album?  :-)

Man, fuh life me can't recall de name!

Robert
From: perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:50:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:55:15 GMT

>perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault) writes:

>>               This is so far a few of the names collected form the Net:
>> 
>> 
>>       Ange Ronel Perrault             Port-au-Prince, HAITI
>> 
>>       Marvin A. Titus                 St. Croix, Virgin Islands

>[...etc...]

>>       Ivan M. Bou                     Puerto Rico
>> 
>>       Vandoren P. Outten              Nassau, Bahamas

>Ack!  This information is practically *useless*!  BUT -- throw in their
>e-mail address below their name, and you've got yourself a *great*
>database!

	Steve, I do have the e-mail addresses of the people on the list.
My initial intention was others to know who is actually on the list. I recieved
some responses by mail. I will update the list with respective e-mail addresses

						Ronel

perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:08:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1bn7glINNca
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <98071@bu.edu> ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George) writes:
>
>In article <BvtIAJ.E5B@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, svm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Savitri Maharaj) writes:
>|> In article <1992Oct8.123729.21425@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
>|> >Just heard on the CNN headline news that Trinidadian Dereck Walcott was
>|> >awarded the nobel prize for literature. Can anyone post some background
>|> >on Walcott?
>|> 
>|> Walcott is actually from St. Lucia, though, from what I have read of his 
>	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>					I THOUGHT so.  I was reading all of the articles and thinking - isn't Derek from my yard?  He also has a brother who is also into literature and a playwright (sp?) - Roderick (Roddy) Walcott.

It  is worth noting that both Caribbean Nobel Prize winners
(Walcott, and Sir Arthur Lewis -- Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics,
1979) are from St Lucia. Must be one hell of an interesting place.


-- 
____________________________________________________________________
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Shabba's new album
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 19:57:13 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

> >robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
> >
> >> Has anyone heard the new album from Shabba? How does it compare with
> >> the `Raw ...' album (I only liked two tracks on that - the ones with 
> >> KRS-1 and Maxi Priest House Calls)?
> > 
> >> Man, fuh life me can't recall de name!
> 
> Rough and Ready Vol 1....

No, I've had Rough & Ready for a couple of months now.  I think he might
be referring to "Xtra Naked" (thanks, Evans, for pointing that out).

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
From: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: DREAD LOCKS PART 2
Keywords: RASTAFARIAN (misconception)
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:14:44 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu


In article <2AD0B04B.16955@news.service.uci.edu>, ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis) writes:
|> In article <Bvnu8p.7IC@acsu.buffalo.edu> v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid) writes:
|> >
|> >
|> >	I have found myself having to explain to people in this
|> >	country that Jamaica is more than just about rastafarians.  I
|> >	have had people asking how I don't wear dreads and some of
|> >	these people have the nerve to think that if you are from
|> >	Jamaica you should wear dreads and smoke ganja.
|> 
|> I think this is understandable, if not forgiveable.  Americans get most of
|> their information from TV., and if you asked the average american who is
|> the most famous Jamaican I think he'd say Bob Marley.  Well, HE was Rasta,
|> smoked ganja, as perhaps most of his band.
|> 
|> I'm not from the U.S., and we didn't have TV when I was growing up, so what
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	This is something the average North American finds so intriguing and 		          unusual, but is fairly common in the Caribbean.  This just goes to 
	support their attitudes that their way of life is the way, and anything
	different is definitely strange (and maybe uncivilized?)

|> I learned about Jamaica was either from reading or word of mouth.  If you
|> asked me who is the most famous I'd say Marcus Garvey, and I know Rastas are
					
How many people (even J'cans) let alone Americans actually know that Marcus Garvey was from Jamaica.  I actually found out that he was very visible in the US years after I had first heard of him - but then, I grew up in the Caribbean, with reggae, etc, and the 70's era was an era of protest and Rasta.

|> just a small group and that dreadlocks DON'T mean Rastas.
|> 
|> So then, let's hear it from those Yardies who really know.
|> 
|> 
|> Peace,
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Evans D Curtis
|> Office of Academic Computing
|> University of California - Irvine
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:22:38 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

> I guess he'll go down in history 'cause I'm not sure there's been another
> Nobel Prize winner from the Caribbean, of course I've been wrong before :)
> 

The previous one was Sir Arthur Lewis, former Vice-Chancellor of UWI.  He got
his for economics.

> 
> 
> Evans D Curtis
> Office of Academic Computing
> University of California - Irvine
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Soca CD's
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 19:35:46 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis) writes:

> Has anybody ever ordered Soca CD's thru the mail? 
> 
> Could you share the info with me? (store, phone, how to get catalog)

Shanachie Records might be what you're looking for.  Send mail to:

        Shanachie Records
        P.O. Box 284
        Newton, NJ  07860

Ask them for their newsletter/catalog.  They've got dancehall, soca,
South African, etc.  They seem to specialize in compilations but also
offer single artists.

Hope this helps -- oh weh deh tip be pon ignored comin' from de yardie?
:-)

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
From: ncostello@vms.eurokom.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Caribbean Food!
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:42:04 CET
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

I don't know if Jamaican cornbread is different or not, but there's a 
really good recipe for cornbread at the end of "Fried Green Tomatoes at
the Whistle-stop Cafe" by Fanny Flagg, that must be Alabama cornbread.
Take two cups of corn flour and mix in 3/4 of a teaspoon of baking powder.
Mix one egg with 1 1/2 cups of buttermilk, a teaspoon of salt and a
tablespoon of hot bacon-fat, then mix with the cornflour. Place in a
pre-heated greased skillet and cook in an oven at 375 degrees till done
(about 20 minutes). "So good it will kill you" says the book.

For jerk chicken, I cooked some on Sunday but the recipe might be difficult,
it starts "marinate the chicken in some jerk sauce that you got last time
you were in Jamaica ..."

Roast fish on corn bread, ah!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: sthomas@worldbank.org (Sidney F. Thomas)
Subject: Nobel Prize awarded to Derek Walcott
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:32:43 GMT

Newsflash!

Subject line says it all.

--Sidney Thomas
From: gpope@iat.holonet.net (george pope)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: tro-tros-net slightly revised posting
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:01:56 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Dynamics of our High Inflation (Jamaica)
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:07:36 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Oct8.225544.1139@news.nd.edu>, hstewar1@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart) writes:
> To whoever posted that article (Mcbean?), Thanks for the effort.  However,
> was all that economese supposed to be intlelligible?  Why must economists
> couch relatively simple terms in such unabashed verbiage? 

To be fair, I found it more understandable than most, and I have never taken
any course/lessons in economics.   I think if you delete the "economese" and
just infer the meanings from the general context you get a pretty good picture
of what he's trying to say.

McBean
From: bs595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (A. Patricia Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Osu carib studdents[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[DC[C[C[C[C[CStudents need Ideas.
Date: 8 Oct 1992 22:13:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello Evelyn,
Just wanted to let you know that there's a fairly substantial gruop 
of Caribbean students, faculty & staff about 75 miles down the road
from you lot at Ohio University and Hocking College!! We have had a
little contact with OSU Caribbean students in the past and would 
welcome an opportunity to greet all of you. Get in touch with me and
let's g[D try to plan something. You can contact me via this email
address [D, or one of the following: {614} 593-2618, 
FAX: (614) 593-2959, or my internet addrew[Daddress:
smith@ouvaxafd
smith @  my typos are terrible! here's the address:
smith@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
Looking forward to hearing you...

Pat
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean