HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ndg0487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mr Controversial )
Subject: Re: College students in third-world India
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:32:02 GMT

kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.234845.19996@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> sidana@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ashmeet S Sidana) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.191729.24012@intelhf.hf.intel.com> kumarr@ivan.intel.com writes:
>>
>>>The following article appeared in the Wall Street Journal in 1982. Much of it
>>>is as relevant today if not more.
>>
>>and
>>
>>>The British founded the University of Calcutta, the first in India, 125 years
>>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>I believe the first in India was Nalanda University and predates
>>the British by several centuries.
>>
>>---Ashmeet Sidana.
>>
>>

>College of Engineering, Guindy [CEG], Madras (now Anna University) was founded
>by the British about 200+ years ago. Its one of the oldest institutions in Asia.

I think Bengal Engineering college is the oldest Engineering college in India
>Cheers,

>Ramkumar [CEG Graduate, 1987]
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From: ali@elara.ctr.columbia.edu (M. Ali Hanafi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Alliances
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:35:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ctr.1992Apr6.073521.14574
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Alliances
Summary:Alliances between Entities 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Keywords: Alliances, clauses

One has seen numerous postings on the net by concerned brothers seeking 
alliances for their sisters.
^^^^^^^^^
One would like to know more about the nature of these alliances.  Are they 
specifically of a military nature, or purely economic?  If military, then will 
they include joint observers monitoring each entity and its actions?  Will 
these treaties be ratified by The Hague or The United Nations ?  Will 
economic alliances fall within the GATT?  Do nuclear weapons enter the picture?
What about non-aggression pacts? Are the economic alliances basically free
trade agreements or does it go further than that, e.g. joint ventures?

                                     In the spirit of greater co-operation,
                             
                                     An Interested Party.

Looking forward to the creation of the Global Village in our time.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (RAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thamiL_sangam
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:25:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


                    
             Mudhal vanakkam 
	     ---------------
 	IraiyanArkkum , thamiL kadavul muruhanukkum , kurumuni ahathiyarkkum
en mudhal vanakkam  .


      As the 1st  sangam event  had to take place in  a rush  , I did 
not expect very good response . But I was proved wrong  , to some extent .
Two netters   responded  quickly . The  non_thamiL words ( for which new
thamiL words must be coined ) are  :


1)  contact lense
2)  lead in
3)  chocolate


   Please send the (new) thamiL words to me  . 


If anyone has missed the mail reguarding  the rules & regulations  ,
and if he/she is interested , please contact me . I have saved that posting .
So I can send it to you .

     The   thamiL words ( which I hope to receive) will be posted  on 
the   16th  of this month  . (Ideally I should do that on 14th . But
this month we started   quite late .)  


		The success of this effort depends on your participation .
So please  do contribute  .


     raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: snoopy@unlv.edu (Ramesh Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: Filing 1040 Jointly  
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:39:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.160829.21137@nynexst.com> naik@nynexst.com (Jay Naik) writes:

>
>1. You (filer) are a US Citizen or Resident Alien (PR),
>2. You got married in 1991.

>3. Your spouse is in India, waiting for PR, or has her/his petition approved
>   in 1992 and awaiting departure, or had PR in 1991 but still in India.

If you are a US Citizen or Permanent Resident and you were married
anytime during a tax year you are eligible to file a joint return.
This applies even if your wife never lived with you any time during
the tax year.  This is defined in the instructions to filing the
1040 and in the past I have interpreted this in the most narrow
sense ;->


--R.V.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: "Rajesh K. Sharma" <rsharma@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Indian English... more
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:39:09 -0500

In <9204171731.AA04222@ha07.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@HA07.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan) writes:



>     More P.T Master-English (Vijay.R, please take note)...........

>  
>   1) Look at the climate man, it's too hot to play.
>                  ^^^^^^^
>   2) If you talk, I'll kneel down (Always wished he would, but found
>                                    out that, that's not what he meant)
>   3) Cuckoo, Blaady (Kick you, bloody...)                               

	a) The principal is rotating in the corridor.
	b) The principal just passed away.
	c) Who took out the breeze of my cykill.
	d) Meet me behind the class (meant after the class).
	e) My cykill is understanding the tree.
Rajesh Sharma
Dept. of Computer Science.
Indiana University
>     Balaji Kannan
-- 
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* Rajesh K. Sharma            *
* Computer Science Department *
* Indiana University          *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:41:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.170737.7749@cs.umn.edu> pavan@cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan) writes:

>In my experience, some women/girls who live their life around harping about
>feminism, liberation and so on, tend to have a appaling sense of insecurity.
>Maybe all this works as a protective shield for some for their own
>inseurities. Mind you, I am saying that I have met a few girls who fall under
>this category. I am NOT saying that all women are like this. Just that to some
>it is a matter of vengeance rather than an idealogy.

In my experience, some men/boys who go around knocking women, Indian
or otherwise, who have enough self-respect to want to be treated as equals,
tend to have an appalling sense of insecurity.  Maybe all this knocking women
works as a protective shield for some of their own insecurities.  .. I am
not saying that all men/boys are like this.  Just that to some it is a
matter of sour grapes or weak ego that requires attacking people who
insist on being treated as persons.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krish@athena.mit.edu (Viswanathan Krishnan)
Subject: MIT Seminar on India
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:16:51 GMT


*****************************************************************************
                MIT Series on India: Panel Discussion

Sangam (MIT Indian Students Assocn.) and the New England Indian Professional
Association (NEIPA) announce an interactive panel discussion on
"Rebuilding India: Options and Actions".  


 The panelists include:


1. 	ANIRUDH DHEBAR, Harvard Business School
        "Economic and Strategic Options Facing India"

2. 	RANGANATH NAYAK, Sr. Vice President, Arthur D. Little Inc.
        "Operational and Business Management in a Rebuilt India"

3. 	GUSTAV PAPANEK, Director, Asian Program, Boston University
	"India: Prospects for the Economy under Deregulation"

4.	BISH. SANYAL, MIT Dept. of Urban Studies and Regional Planning
	"Institutional Approaches to Rebuilding India: Housing and
	Income Generation"



Topic:  Rebuilding India: Options and Actions
When:   SUNDAY, April 12, 1992, 3-5 PM
Venue:  MIT Rm. 6-120
	Event will start at 3PM

	 What do the recent changes have in store for India?
	 What are the FACTS related to India?
	 What can we learn from other countries?

	 Here is a golden oppurtunity to keep pace with the changes in India.
	 Come, Hear multiple perspectives from experts.

			ALL ARE WELCOME!

Further Info:  
  Mahesh Kanumury                       Viswanathan Krishnan
  NEIPA, P.O.Box 1345                   E53-340, MIT
  Waltham MA 02254                      Cambridge, MA 02139
  (508)-671-9978                        (617)-253-0250
  kanumury@blaca1.sinet.slb.com         krish@athena.mit.edu

Directions: MIT is at the intersection of Mass. Av and Memorial Drive.
Park either along Mass. Av or Memorial Drive.
Walk all the way down MIT's infinite corridor (from Mass. Av side).
Bldg. 6 is to the farther end of the infinite corridor.
Turn right to get to Rm 120, which is in the Physics dept.

	BE ON TIME TO ENSURE A SEAT.
	SHARE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT WITH OTHER FRIENDS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Let noble thoughts come to us from all sides"

        Viswanathan Krishnan: krish@athena.mit.edu
MIT Room: E53-340                       550 Memorial Drive #22F
Ph: (617)-253-0250                      Cambridge, MA 02138
FAX: (617)-258-7579                     (617)225-2683


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: OSCARS For Indians (urf. dhakkans)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 02:33:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.081827.26181@cs.wayne.edu> uds@surya.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.002639.9639@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>>How about Rohini Hattingadi ? Did'nt she take the OSCAR for best
>>actress for her role in "Gandhi" along with Ben Kingsley who won
>>the best actor award for his role in "Gandhi" ?. Gandhi won 9 oscars.
>>
>>Clarifications wlcome.
>
>I didnt know `Gandhi' won any oscars.  But I do Know `Ghaendi' won 9.
>Ask anyone in this country who follows the movie scene. They will confirm
>what I wrote above.
>
>Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
>(email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)

This news is interesting !!!. Did'nt Richard Attenborough's GANDHI
win 9 oscars ?? In which country are u in ? USA ? Then how come .....
.....?

Cheers,

Ramkumar 

PS : BTW, who acted in GHAENDI ???? 
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From: sanjay@praxis.co.uk (Sanjay Ruparell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: What has 4 eyes but I still can't see it ?
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:39:19 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Bath, U.K.


		  #     #     #   #
		M I S S I S S I P I     M A S A L A
		  ^     ^     ^   ^
		  < O >      < O >

It's a recent (?) hollywood movie about an Indian girl from Uganda
who, after being expelled from the county with her family, migrates to
Mississipi to lead a new life.	Here (Mississipi) she falls for a
black American which leads to conflicts in families due to differances
in cultures...

I've been told it's a good film but I cant find a theatre which is
showing the movie.

Is there anyone who knows if there's a showing of this film anywhere in
the West country, England ?

Also, can anyone provide any reviews of it's success in India ?  
						... the USA ?

Cheers, in advance.

Sanjay

sanjay@praxis.co.uk
From: "Vinay K. Kansal" <kansal@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: *** LOOKING FOR A SUMMER SUBLET IN WASHINGTON, DC (JUN 1 - AUG 31)***
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 19:14:24 GMT




I shall be joining the World Bank as a summer intern for three months beginning
Jun 1. 

I am looking for a cheap summer sublet ( around $300 per month) for the above
stated period. I would prefer the apartment / house to be reasonably close
to the world bank.

I am a vegetarian and if you are looking for a vegetarian sublessee, it is a 
great opportunity for you. 

Interested parties may please contact me at

Kansal@copper.ucs.indiana.edu

Tel #  (812)-857-6661  (h)
       (812)-855-9714  (o)


Please send me your complete e-mail address  and  Tel #.

thanks.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: patelsa1@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:41:27 GMT





In article <167BEA3FE.A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:
> In article <sdr750W00VpgA4Ll9v@andrew.cmu.edu>
> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>  
>>WHAT"S A GUJJU
>>ME
>  
> Ha Ha Ha!! didn't get that but since it is a joke I laugh!
>  
> More Jokes:
> Q: why did Germany get jews, and India Gu-jjus?
> A: they had the first choice.
>  
> Q: Why did the gujju think that in the movie Gandhi, the role was played by a
> lady?
> A: because it was played by Ben-Kingsley.
>  
> Q: What is an impotent gujju called?
> A: Kamles(h) (cum less)
>  
> ....that is all for now..more later
> AK

HA! HA! HA!
I laughed on your stupid sense of humor and the producer of garbage jokes.

The judge.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdevraj@ux.acs.umn.edu (Sarvanan Devraj)
Subject: Newsgroup for travel, discount fares, etc.,
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:18:52 GMT

 Hi Netters,
   Sometime back a new newsgroup was formed that had discussions
about travel, discount airfares and the sort. Could any of you
either mail me the name of this newsgroup or post it on the net.
Incidentally, I am not referring to the group called rec.travel,
which is a much older newsgroup.
 Thanks for your help,
    Sarvanan
    Carlson School of Management
    Minneapolis.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14192 soc.culture.pakistan:6388
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Kashmir:some questions?
Date: 13 Apr 1992 14:59:43 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Apr13.040807.10787@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:
|> > His decision should, indeed, not be binding, if the people living there
|> >think otherwise. Actually India's own actions in Junagadh and Hyderabad
|> >belie its claims to the righteousness of the accession decision.
|> There is another point here: Neither Junagadh nor Hyderabad had a strong
|> independence movement at the time of partition, unlike Kashmir,led by
|> Sheikh Abdulla.
|> That Abdulla later participated in the Indian democracy can in no way be
|> considered as Kashmiris agreeing to join the Indian nation; that decision still
|> awaits the plebiscite. The participation can be looked upon as merely making
|> the most of the chances in self-government.
|> > Jaideep

Maybe someone mentioned it and I didn't catch it; could someone who has access
to the data clarify if there is a clause in the Act of Accession (of Kashmir to
India) that requires a plebiscite to be held to ratify the accession? I am
pursuing this line only to see lf there is a Constitutional basis for a
plebiscite, as opposed (or separated, if not opposed) to a moral basis.

-srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL)
Subject: Baray dinon sey ghar naheen dekha ... Iftikhar Arif
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:59:33 GMT


Khalaq ne ik manzar naheen dekha bahut dinon se
Nok-e-Sinan pe sar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Pathar par sar rakh kar sonay walay dekhay
Hathon mein pathar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Qatil jis ki zad se khod mahfooz rak sakay
Aisaa koi khanjar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Apnay hi khaimon par jo shabkhoon na maray
Aisa koi lashkar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Shakh-e-Buraidah khulee fazaa se pooch rahee hay
Koi shikasta par naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Zindan ahl-e-junon ko shayad raas aa gaya
Dewaron mein dar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Khaak urranay waalay logon ki basti mein
Koi soorat gar naheen dekha bahut dinon se

Sachhay saain hamaray Hazrat Mehr Ali Shah
Baba! Ham ne ghar naheen dekha bahut dinon se


------------
Faisel Saeed

Computer Science Department,   Oklahoma State University,   Stillwater, OK 
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From: prastogi@netcom.com (Parag Rastogi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need list of courier/Express mail service from New Delhi
Keywords: Courier/express mail
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:27:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

If somebody on SCI knows about how one can get important documents
through express service from New Delhi or Noida. This is very urgent.

Possible services are: 
Federal express or other types of courier service.

I would appreciate if the addresses/phone numbers can be emailed to my account
and an estimate of time they generally take.
 
-- 
A billion here, a couple of billion there -- first thing you know it
adds up to be real money.
		-- Everett McKinley Dirksen
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From: vxr7653@hertz.njit.edu (What's in a name                      Vishwanathan Rajagopalan alias Ravi - Computer Engineering)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time ---- Any advantage ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:17:49 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr8.161001.8784@usl.edu> sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G) writes:
>I want to know whether there is any advantage in switching
>from the Standard Time to Daylight Savings Time during
>summer. Could any enlightened soul kindly explain ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.
>(sudhi@usl.edu)


I am convinced that the only purpose of DST is to confuse people...

IT IS A COMMIE PLOT!!!!!!!

-- 
Ravi.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pathakb@prefect.uucp (21112-pathak)
Subject: Re: Bride wanted ( Indian Women and Sense of Humor dont get along!!)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:27:47 GMT

In article <43761@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, kuland@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Gita Kulandaiswamy) writes:
> Seetamraju,Uday Bhaskar Sarma writes: 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> should read as :
> 	  Age No Bar, Caste No Bar, Sex Baar Baar, and in the spirit of 
> 	  the Mandal commision, beauty  and requirements, are relaxed for
> 	  `Backward' candidates.
> 
> Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
> (email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)
> 
> (P.S.  Flame me for fun, but dont waste Net bandwidth, over that, the  above
> 	statements mean that `backwards'  as defined by the govt are less
> 	beautiful than `forward castes'.  Just that ugly `forward caste' girls
> 	stand no chance, while ugly `backward caste' girls do.
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> 	
> 		Mr.Sarma, what's your Major, Offensive_Generalizations ?
> 		I can't decide which amused me more, the original posting or
> 		the "explanation" in the postscript.
> 	 	Are you for real or did your evil twin Skippy crawl out from
> 		under a rock to post this in your name ?  
> 
> 		P.S Flame all you want , but don't hold your breath waiting for
> 		replies. That would be presuming that I consider it worth my
> 		while to *argue* with  you. I don't. 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________________

hey, Ms. Gita,

I thought it was very humorous...
Com'on Grow up!! where is your sense of humor???? oh, I see,it seems like
U HAVE NONE!!!

Relax... and dont take everything so seriously....

oh and this brings me to a question I have...

do you think majority of "Indian/shrilankan/Pakistani" women/ladies/girls
lack sense of humor???

Bhadresh..
From: amit@canon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Amit Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Mistreatment of Indians by Northwest Airlines -- Reply from Northwest
Date: 9 Apr 1992 17:00:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: canon.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr9.163338.12263@unlv.edu>, snoopy@unlv.edu (Ramesh Viswanathan) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr8.173305.606@odin.corp.sgi.com> murgesh@sgi.com (Murgesh Navar) writes:
|> 
|>  [ DELETED ]
|>
|> from the Airline personnel's point of view they can't afford to examine
|> the personal history, or predict the behavior of every passenger.
|> Therefore, they are left with the only choice which is to grab the
|> passport of all (perhaps not all, maybe most) originating their journey
|> from the subcontinent.  Moral: One bad apple can ruin the whole barrel.
|> 
|> [ DELETED ]
|> 
|> --R.V.

No. That is not the correct attitude (accepting the confiscation of passports,
b/c some people from the sub-continent (sic) destroy their passports). NWest
gets away with this lousy behaviour only b/c we do not protest. Given a choice,
I will not go to a shop where they subject all (or some, depending on the color
of their skin) customers to body searches at exit (after all, shoplifting is a
real problem too). Similarly, if we were to make it clear that it will be cheaper
for NWest to pay up the fines (for all passangers who destroy their passports)
than lose all the customers who would not subject themselves to such procedures,
....

..but thats wishful thinking, i guess.

-amit
Amit Gupta
amit@cs.Berkeley.EDU

ps: I was under the impression that *all* airlines confiscate the passports.
In that case, there is truly no choice. But if you have a choice, exercise it.
From: ganesh@cs.umn.edu (M. Ganesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sci oscar nominations
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:44:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr6.194449.19429
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <1992Apr5.192148.9145@acsu.buffalo.edu> acsossc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Samir Chaudhari) writes:
>
>	In light of the proceedings in Hollywood, sci has come up with
>it's own version of oscar nominations. 

>
>Best female performance:              Manjeri Dharmarajan, Shamala Parmeshwaran
>
	I would like to know how someone can make out the sex of a poster
	from his/her posting. I have some doubts about the categorization
	of atleast one of the above
	ganesh.
>-S
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.activism,rice.culture.indian