HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: CHAIN VS BELT VS SHAF
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:51:18 GMT

In article <3123.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> 
dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
> Somebody else wrote:
>-> Impressive, but the other half of the question is how long the belts
>-> last under that kind of stress. Do any bikes on the national drag
>-> race circuit use belt drive?
> I dunno about now, but they sure used to, both for primary and
>secondary drive.  Remember Russ Collins' "Atchison, Topeka, and Santa
>Fe" Honda triple?  Back when the cagers were experimenting with
>sidewinder engines, Summers Bros and Garlits built 1000hp rails with
>belt drive.

Got any idea what the cross-sectional area of these belts were?  I'd
be willin' to bet that they were pretty *large*, even if they were to
be thrown away after only a few races.  Considering that there's gotta
be a force to cross-sectional-area upper-limit defined by present 
technology, there'll need to be some kind of design margin for the
sake of reliability; at least from the standpoint of competing with
chain life.  Methinks that the technological upper-limit and design
margin will combine to require a non-feasible belt size for repeated
reliable high-torque/high-power applications on motorcycles.  YMMV.

Now, if we can only get the belt-designers to produce belts that could
replace chains on the present-day crotch-rockets without deleterious
effect on cornering clearance, etc, then I would happily do away with
drive chains and shafts.

Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
From: jnsims01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD number
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:45:03 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Apr11.200306.16519@ncsu.edu>, steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu 
  (Steve Garnier) writes:
> In article <gdtlDsS00WBOQ1d51J@andrew.cmu.edu> 
> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:

<Lots of good back and forth bs deleted - back up and read it if you didn't 
get it on the first go around...>

People often ask why I spend my off-hours (well, maybe just a little
work-time...) reading a board devoted to motorcycles, but usually featuring a
good deal of inter-personal abuse. Its posts like this that are the reason!

Although, I must say, Steve, that you're going a bit soft. This wasn't even
scathing! Humorous, yes. Scathing, no. Maybe its the early signs of the
softening up process which fatherhood brings on. First soft heart, then soft
head. And yes, I know from personal experience. 8-)

  My wife AND my employer ignore my opinions - feel free to do the same!
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From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:45:42 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Washington State University


In article <1992Apr7.115725.12808@inmos.co.uk> nicks@grandad.inmos.co.uk (Nick Sturge) writes:
>Having had bikes with all three (on different bikes, of course),
>it's an easy first, second and miserable third for shaft, belt
>and naff old chains.
>
>Chains are filthy, expensive, need oiling every 200 miles (which
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
filthy is a very editorial-type word, a chain lubed with TRiflow
doesn't collect dirt anywhere nearly as vigoruously as an "oiled"
chain.

>means getting oil all over the wheels - the thicker the oil/lube,
>the better the chain-life but the dirtier the wheel!), need 
>adjusting every few hundred miles and snatch and rattle etc.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

bullshit, perhaps you gotta check them every couple of thousand miles.
And adjust every 5-6 k miles.

>Belts are much better, requiring no lubrication (except, perhaps, 
>a bit of chalk every now and again) and last at least 5 times
>as long as chains (eg. 600000miles instead of 120000miles).
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
hey, I can live with a chain that will last 120,000 miles. :-)

I have nothing agains belts and might like a bike with a belt
someday.  Couldn't put one on FJ, if I did I'd have to throw
2 pistons away.  Simple fact of the matter is that belts can't
deal with very many ponies all at one time.

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu  johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125
FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

True humor has beneath it the understanding that we are all
in this together.  Hugh Prather
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:09:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> If you have a two cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor
-> unless it's an Indian.

 Or a Royal Enfield, or a Scott...


-> If you have a four cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor.

 Unless you're on an Ariel square-four.
From: ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Head Gasket Problems
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.73160
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi.  I have a 1981 Honda CB650.  It hasn't been run in about 5 years until
I recently resurrected it.  I noticed that after I drive about 2 miles, about
2 drops of oil seem to seep from around the head gasket (near the front corner
of cylinder #1).  Compression is also down compared to #4.

Should I run it in this condition or should I replace the gasket as soon as 
possible?  I guess the head could also be warped or cracked and cause this
problem.  How do you get off heads if they won't budge?  Thanks for your help.

George
ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
From: v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Question on restoring CB350F
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	For a first bike, a friend of mine bought a 1973 CB350F for about
$150.  It had been sitting under a tarp and was very corroded when he bought it.
There is a lot of whitish oxidation on the motor.  My question (well his 
actually) is "Is there any way to get rid of that stuff easily like with a 
solvent of somethin'"
	
	All replys are appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

						Ethan Bowerman
From: ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BATTERY QUESTION: long slow charge, or quickie?
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:11:48 GMT
Organization: Mid Island Ham Network

jlhaferman@l_eld09.icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeff Haferman) writes:

> 
> I've always been told that a long slow charge is "better" 
> for a battery than a quick charge.  For example, I have an 
> 8 amp/hour charger, which can fully charge a dead motorcycle
> battery in 5 or 6 hours, as opposed to 24 hours using a
> "trickle" charge.
> 
> Why does it make a difference?  It seems that if the battery
> is fully charged, is shouldn't matter how long it takes to
> get it fully charged.  Or does it have something to do with
> perhaps a higher amperage charge rate breaking down the
> battery a bit faster?
> 
> Any authorities on this subject please respond.
> 


It's a good rule of thumb to charge a battery at a rate no higher than 
1/10 it's amp/hour rating. If, for example, you have typical motorcycle 
battery with a 14 amp hour rating, that would translate to a charge rate 
of 1.4 amperes. Charging at too high a rate can cause the electrolyte to 
evaporate (basically because the electro-chemical reaction during high 
rates of charge also causes a lot of heat), and sustained high rates of 
charging can even result in damage to the batterys plates. Of course, 
depending on the battery, you may be able to get away with it some times, 
but I would NEVER charge a motorcycle battery at 8 amperes....


Robert Smits Nanaimo BC    | I don't wanna pickle,
ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca  | just wanna ride my motorsickle - AG
From: kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: piss off, senner (was: take a pill ed green)
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:26:23 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <rq540INNklq@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes...
>In article 191@zx11.UUCP, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:

    At least we know that both Ed and Joe follow the DoD motto:

    	live to flame	/	flame to live

+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:{  spook  }:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
 Greg Kenoyer			     kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com
 Digital Equipment Corporation	     Colorado Springs, CO
 DoD #0472	                     '84 FLH (The Last Shovel)
     any opinions expressed are mine (not Ken's, et.al.), so tough
+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
From: steved@nos850.UUCP (Steve Doolin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Who's a squid here? (was CBR900RR 2nd, 3rd, etc. ride impressions)
Summary: Full Definition??
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:45:12 GMT
Organization: US Naval Ordnance Station  Louisville, KY

> >I don't care how good he is, operating a motorcycle beyond its design
> >limits, losing half one's available traction and all directional
> >control in the process, is squidly behavior.  By definition.
> 
> Well since "The Wheelie King" can steer quite well while on the rear
> wheel, I'd say that he does have directional control. So he's not a
> squid.  By your definition.  :-)

  Might we be blessed with the _full_ definition please? Apparently
doing a "wheelie" is considered beyond the design limits of (some)
motorcycles? Oh nuts, I thought I was supposed to be doing wheelies. :-/

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steve Doolin                           |  "Wearing a helmet wouldn't look
...!uunet!coplex!nos850!steved         |  cool. Thay, thereth another one
...steved@nos850                       |  of my theeth."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: preliminary tally FG vs. GS
Summary: Ghost Riders in the Sky
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:43:23 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr13.123343.1746@nic.csu.net>, rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.182859.2636@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr13.093442.1744@nic.csu.net>, rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
> >> i'm taking a poll of people who have FJ11/1200s and R100/80gs's to see
> >> which one is the REAL DoD bike of choice.  send your responses to me.
> >Here are some other r.m FJ11/12 owners...

[I supplied 19 more names for the FJ list]

> you think i trust you, rogers?  none of you daughters of denver
> are worth the electrons you post on!  

This is the thanks I get for cutting you a break?  Better be nice to me,
or I'll post the *remaining* 90% of the rec.moto FJ riders list!

> remember, if you have an FJ or a GS (BMW, not suzuki, wise guy), 
> send me e-mail and tell me which.

Well, at least you spelled "FJ" correctly this time.

You're not seriously expecting us to believe that Charles Blair and
Henry Pasternack actually *responded* to a bike popularity poll, are 
you? C'mon Bob, these two are made of *much* sterner stuff than that!
Harold Plotnick would sooner dip himself in clearcoat than stoop to
participate in such a plebian enterprise.

Still, with the rather lopsided current status in the FJ's favor, 
I feel myself succumbing to compassion for the underdog.  I guess I 
won't protest if you count Francis "Melinda" Muir on the GS side.  :-)

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
DoD #0003
KotVS (Velvet Sledgehammer)
KotBLFJ (Best Looking FJ)
KotODoDBoC (Official DoD Bike of Choice)
KotEG (Eternal Grin)
From: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cheap mail-order helmets
Date: 10 Apr 1992 23:20:04 GMT
Organization: Mips Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: electron.mips.com

In article <770@shaman.wv.tek.com>, davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr9.191228.17100@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
|> >Hmmm...where did you see a 135 RF200? Pretty please?
|> >-Ekr
|> 
|> Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse.  I got mine there.  They run an ad in Cycle World.
|> 
|> David Wise (DoD#427, davewi@orca.wv.tek.com, Packy -- 1980 CX500C)

Yes, I got my X8 there. $218.00 2 months ago. Last I saw they were up to
228.00

	Tim
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: twln5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Suzuki RG500 - Anyone know anything?
Reply-To: twln5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:55:09 GMT

In article <49140037@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, dug@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Dug Smith) writes:

>
>The RG400 had a more relaxed power delivery, with more midrange, as it could 
>only produce 59hp they tuned it for 59hp, rather than restrict it.  Supposedly
>a much easier bike to ride.

Interesting point.. Saw a test on Japanese-spec RG500. tuned for only 63 hp,
it was a torquer which upshifted at 8500 rpm, Cycle Guide said it made all
its speed with a strong midrange rush. Still ran high 11s at 113 mph or so.
Sort of the GT750 approach...

Randy N.
From: andersen@che.udel.edu (From the jumbled mind of Steve Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: piss off, senner (was: take a pill ed green)
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:39:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: che.6APR199216391241
Organization: University of Delaware/Department of Chemical Engineering
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <rq540INNklq@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@East.Sun.COM writes...
>In article 191@zx11.UUCP, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
> 
>Oh, give me a big, hairy, fucking break!  A guy admits to power
>  Stuff deleted...
>other way?  Take your junior birdman psychology bullshit and get the
>fuck out of my face.

Geeeeeeeeeez,

Let's all take a moment of silence so that we can douse
the flames in our net connections and replace those
wires that are now simply smoldering cinders...

>I think Diana's cute, too.

It's a good thing that you added this to allow the pathways
to cool or else we may have been looking at a long
rec.moto blackout due to flame damage...

:-o :-o :-o  WoW!!!

>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
______________________________________________________________________________
 Steve Andersen                                   andersen@oscar.ccm.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 "I own two bikes, brand unimportant"  -- Jeff Kaskey 
 DoD #0239
From: jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., How About DoD MousePads?????
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:07:55 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 13:47:56 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.703345676.arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow) writes:
   My wife's office partner's wife suggested the ultimate DoD goody.  She said
   that since all people on the net are, to some extent, computer types, how 
   about MousePads with the Denizen logo?
   Arnie

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			Jerry Wills 
I'll have enough POWER when I can spin the tires at the end of the straight!
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rjwhite@watmath.waterloo.edu (RJ White)
Subject: Re: shipping a bike from europe to US
Organization: MFCF
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:14:05 GMT

Ed Dowtort <U10119@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
	i have a friend who has a bike that he left behind in Poland, and would
	like to get it here to U.S.   does anyone have any knowledge about the
	approximate cost of doing so, how does one go about it, and what type
	of legalities would be involved?   if it matters, the bike is a '56 (i
	think) (some-type-of:) Simpson.

I have no experience with this, but I just happened to buy the May
'Motorcyclist' where on page 119, someone asks for advice bringing
his 1982 Yamaha XJ650 into the US from Germany.
The conclusion 'Motorcyclist' came to was 'Bringing a motorcycle into
compliance is not worth the cost unless the motorcycle is extremely rare
and valuable'.

It must comply with federal D.O.T. regulations and customs officers will 
look for the appropraite sticker  on the headstock.  And then there is your
states Department of Motor Vehicles.

They also said 'you'll face major bureaucratic hassles, lots of paperwork, 
and the possiblility that you'll have to pay to send the bike back again'.

sorry about the doom and gloom...

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DoD 051112 (guess!)             | annoying buzzwords.  We prefer to call it
Team Bengt Phorks               | a unrequested fission surplus.
Yamaha RZ350A, MX175G, YSR80B   |                     - C. Montgomery Burns
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:50:19 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <92099.151005RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Robert Chambers) writes:
>
>Huh?  The distributor does just that.. distributes.. It distributes
>the jolt to whichever spark plug is due to recieve it.  If you have
>a single cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor.
>
If you have a two cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor unless
it's an Indian.

If you have a three cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor.

If you have a four cylinder machine, you don't have a distributor.

(99% certainty, anyway.  I'm sure that distributors have been used on a
variety of bikes in the past, but pretty damn rare today)
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From: nate@grmail.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Vmax problems
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: nate@grmail.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grmail.central.sun.com


	I have a few problems with my '85 Vmax.  Well first of all it seems 
like it needs to get a tune up EVERY year.  Is this normal?  The reason
I have to tune it up every year is because it seems like the battery goes
dead every off season.  I've had it replaced but it still happens.  
It seems like there is too much pressure in the chamber for the battery
to turn it over.  Also, one other problem is that the clutch fluid leaks
out.  I took it in for this problem once and they returned it to me with
the resevoir filled.  Upon my asking them what was wrong with the clutch
they said, "We couldn't find anything wrong with it.  It just must have 
LEAKED out."  What the HELL kind of an answer is this!  That is obviously
the problem.  Or does Yamaha build this 'feature' into all their bikes?
Well, anyhow if you can help please send email.  Or post, I'll just see
it for sure if you mail it.

later,
nate
From: warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:52:11 GMT
	<6240@public.BTR.COM> <1992Apr13.235211.13986@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: MITEL, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
In-reply-to: scw54193@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of 13 Apr 92 23:52:11 GMT

Nsane writes:

   I too have also jump started my bike from my car.  Nothing seemed
   to go wrong.  Just don't leave it hooked up for too long, the cables can 
   get hot.


And exactly how much current do you think was trucking down said cable
if it actually got "hot" given that its resistance as compared to the
batteries and clamps in the circuit is almost zero??? Consider the
current capabilities of your basic automotive battery, especially if
complemented by a running engine and charging system, as compared to
what your teeny tiny bike battery wants and needs to keep it happy and
well fed. We had this dicussion last year with people claiming to have
done it no problem and people compete with horror stories of the
melded_exploed_battery_from_hell. A good thing to tyr and avoid if
possible. AND don't charge your bike battery with a standard 8-10 amp
CAr battery charger (unless you like supporting your local battery
retailer). The Flash posted some numbers supporting the don't side...

BJ...warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com    |   XJ650K and DoD#0255
Kanata, Ontario, Canada        |   I want a new toy...
I really didn't mean it quite that way, or did I :->
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Yamaha Power Valve System (YPVS) not behaving
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:17:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.081614.17590@watmath.waterloo.edu> rjwhite@watmath.waterloo.edu (RJ White) writes:
>
>On my 1990 Yamaha RZ350, my Power Valve often has the following behaviour:
>When you turn the key on, it cycles through the open and close and goes
>rrrrrr-rrrrrrr-rrrrr  like its supposed to, but then it sorta goes zzzzzzz
>forever as if its trying to do something and can't.
>It does this except when I try to demonstrate it to somebody...
>
>I *think* it is still doing this when the bike is running, but I can't be
>sure since the engine drowns out the sound.
>The bike runs fine.
>
>Has anybody experienced this and know whats wrong?

My RZ500 does this too.  I found that I can push on one of
the YVPS linkages and get it to stop.  I think it means
that the cables need adjustment, and possibly lubing.

Does anyone know how fast the YPVS valves are supposed to move
when they're doing the test-cycle thing?  Mine go kinda slow, taking
about 5 seconds to cycle from closed to open to closed (two
whirrs).  There's some time delay between the onset of the servo's
whirring and movement of the linkage at the rear cylinders.

(I'm gonna send this to the two-strokes mailing-list
[2strokes@microunity.com] too, maybe one of the RZ350 wizards there'll know.)

--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
               Real motorcyclists work on their own bikes.