From: ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren)
Subject: Re: Unity in Thought, language or DOMINATION
Reply-To: ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:54:56 GMT

In article <01GSRJIHFKF6006MJF@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU> RCIRIT%DENVER@VAXF.Colorado.EDU (REMZI CIRIT) writes:
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>          >Nermin ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu wrote:
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>          >Dilde, fikirde, iste birlik.
>          >Unity in language, in thought, in work.
>          >Ismail Gaspirali (1851-1914)
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>   Nermin,
>   The idea you qouted above is a great idea. However, I have some questions
>   for you; How are we going to do it. ? What dou you think about cultural
>   diversity?. Since you are living in the USA, is there any way to apply
>   this theory to the USA ?
>   Since we are not robots, can we really have unity in thought ?
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>   If the people do not want to accept the unity in thought, in work,
>   How are we going to force them ? In trems of the human rights. is
>   it right to force them FOR THE SAKE OF THE UNITY ?
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>   Which one is important humanity or unity in language, in thought ?
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>   Remzi Cirit

	Mr.Cirit,
	Are you familiar with Ismail Gaspirali and his ideas? If not, it is 
worth to get acquainted with his thoughts and ideas. Now, you raised some 
questions for me and expect some answers. Usually it is easy and simple to
raise some questions, but answers are not.
	Ismail Gaspirali's countersign meant for the Turkic speaking muslims.
He wanted a middle-Turkic language with which all Turkic speaking people
would perfectly be able to understand each other. He wanted reform in islamic
education system in order to improve living conditions of muslims. Commitment
to achieve this goal, that is improving living conditions of muslims, is unity
in language, in thought, in work. That was the motivation of Ismail Gaspirali
and it did not mean political unity.
	However, it seems to me that your questions imply political unity. Am
I right? If so, there is no need to get into a discussion, since I think 
political unity cannot be achieved without force, to which I am opposed. On 
the other hand, discussion on cultural matters can bear some fruits. 
My strict defination of culture is thinking and ideas of people. Why do we
think? Why do we have some ideas? Why do we bother reading and posting some 
articles? Is it just for fun?



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Hurmetlerimle,

Nermin     ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

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Dilde, fikirde, iste birlik.
Unity in language, in thought, in work.
Ismail Gaspirali (1851-1914)