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Subject: My poor Skis 
Distribution: world
Organization: Jeffrey Holdgate Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:59:17 +0000


In article <1992Dec14.212414.13695@ryn.mro4.dec.com> steve@caboom.cbm.dec.com writes:

>
>--------------
>My skis fell off the rack they were in and landed in the middle of
>the highway during rush hour.  The rear of one binding was ripped
>completly off the ski.  The side wall was cracked and the edge twisted.
>The other ski escaped with less damage, having only the brake of the binding
>crushed.
>
>The ski shop I took them to is sending the bindings back to the manufacturer
>to see if they can be rebuilt.  Also they are checking with ski maker to see if> they could rebuild or supply me with a matching ski.  The cost of this being> less then replace the equipment which was a little over a year old.
>
>I am posting this note for two reasons:
>
>1) To remind everyone of the importance of checking to make sure equipment
>   is properly secured.  (I am very happy they did not go threw someones 
>   windshield.)
>
>2) To ask advice concerning the situation.  Is there anything else I should
>   do?  Has anything like this ever happened to you?
>
>
Yes, Ski's came off a car in front, hit the road, and bounced over the car. We
all hit the floor inside the car since the SKis looked like they were joining
 us. A truck ran over the SKis. I don't think they were worth rebuilding
 after that.
 J.
 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: Eastern skiing
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:27:18 GMT

>  What type of conditions could be expected at 
>  Lake Placid or the South Eastern Vermont area
>  in early March, If any ?

Fresh powder. Packed powder. Fesh machine snow. Hardpack. Boileerplate.
Ice. Machine groomed. Corn. Slush. Rocks. Rivers of melting snow. Fields
of grass and brush.

Any of the above on any day. Any of the above on any day following a day
with any other of the above. Any combination of the above on a single
day.

I've learned to never plan a Vermont ski trip on more than 24 hours notice,
and then keep my fingers crossed.

Bill Hery
From: cbrunson@scilla.East.Sun.COM (Chuck Brunson - Sun BOS Corporate Software Engineering)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Snowboarders Suck
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:46:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cbrunson@scilla.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: scilla.east.sun.com

>>  was there when it all began. While there are examples of very good skiers
>>  going over to "shredding", I imagine that it is mostly beginner skiers 
>>  who were not progressing at the pace that they wanted. 
>>
My observations have been that a very significant portion of the boarding public
ARE accomplished skiers that were looking for a new way to enjoy the sport. Skiing
is one of my favorite sports but I'm also usually looking for something new to
learn and boarding is just that, something new and exciting that I can do out
on the ski slopes.

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From: tscwhitehead@vx9000.weber.edu (Clarke Whitehead)
Subject: Re: seeking Salt Lake recommendations
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Weber State University
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:31 MST  

In article <4dtD03nbc4JZ00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, lizn@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Elizabeth Neely) writes...
> 
>I'm going to learn how to ski in Utah for Christmas, and I'm looking for
>reccomendations on restaurants and the different slopes.
>I'll be staying in Downtown Salt Lake City.
> 
>So far, I've been told Chuck-o-rama is a good all you can eat type place and
>the spaghetti company is good too. Any others? 

If you like cramming your gut with tons of fatty foods, I guess Chuck-o-rama
is ok ;-)  Personally I don't care for it.  The spaghetti factory is good.
Try their spaghetti with half sauce, half mizithra cheeze.  The spaghetti
factory is located in Trolley Square (6th S, 7th East).  There are several
other good restaurants in the area also.  If you let me know what types of
food you like, I'll be glad to make some specific recommendations.
> 
>My lift passes will be good at Alta, Snowbird and Solitude. I've been told I
>might be able to exchange them for other resorts, but I'm not sure about this.
>Two people have told me Snowbird is the best place for beginners and another
>told me Brighton is the best for beginners. Is it worth trying to trade in
>my tickets to try out brighton?

Personally I prefer Solitude for beginning lessons, of course that's where
I learned about 5 years ago.  Actually I think any of them will do a good
job.  You'll want a place that has plenty of beginning slopes to practice
on.  I lived in SLC for 15 years, but now live in Ogden about 40 miles
north of there.  I like the less commercial slopes up here because of the
shorter lift lines.  Solitude and Brighton are considered local resorts
and tend to be less crowded than Park City and Snowbird.

Clarke
From: ndowney@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Skiing in Andora ?
Date: 9 Dec 92 14:06:22 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

Two questions:

1) How do you pronounce SOLDEU, which is the name of a little village in
   ANDORA, Europe. I am going there (skiing) and wondering how to pronounce it.

2) Is there someone out there (in main-land Europe) who could give a ski report
   about Andora ?.

Any help would be appreciated.

Niall Downey
NDOWNEY@CCVAX.UCD.IE

(Ireland)
From: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Whistler where?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:06:18 GMT
Reply-To: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Organization: Chevron CEPS

In article <meharg.724094961@sfu.ca>, meharg@fraser.sfu.ca (Gersham 
William Meharg) writes:
> From: meharg@fraser.sfu.ca (Gersham William Meharg)
> Newsgroups: rec.skiing
> Subject: Re: Whistler where?
> Date: 11 Dec 92 17:29:21 GMT
> Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
> 
> lindsayp@vogon.invermay.cri.nz writes:
> 
> >Would someone please tell me where Whistler ski area is and what type of
> >snow conditions one would expect at the end of January. How does this area 
rate
> >on a scale of one to 10.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> Whistler/Blackcomb monutains are a couple hours north of Vancouver,
> Canada. They have decent snow right now, the end of January should be
> good. The snow is a bit heavy being on the coast. This is one of the
> best ski areas in North America - a 10. 
> 
> You thinking of going?


We're thinking of going in early April.  What's the weather like then?  Storms 
easing up or can it still be brutal?
Also, know of any cheap places to stay up there?


> 
> Gersham Meharg
> Simon Fraser University
> Vancouver, BC
> Canada

Beverly M. Zalan
bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Colorado here I COME!!!!!
From: censtad@nic.gac.edu (Topher the Gustie)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:02:34 GMT
Reply-To: censtad@nic.gac.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
NNTP-Posting-Host: dumaine.gac.edu

I'll be there the 26th to attain my part-time Boulderite position.  My  
father lives there, I live in Minnesota.  Anyone who wants to ski with me  
can meet me at mid-Vail on the 28th.  I'll be the kid with the hacked  
skiis and the hugest perma-grin you ever saw!!!!  Happy Holidays to all on  
the net and see you in the deep stuff.
From: jl0h@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN DONALD LAESSIG)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Are "Ladies Skis" really better for women skiers?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:58:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi,

I'v been trying to find the best, and cheapest, skis for my girlfriend (low
intermediate skier), but I don't know what advantage there would be to what
some manufacturers are advertising as ladies skis.  Some are just lighter
versions of other skis, but some also have a shifted binding position.

-What effect and how much do these skis have as opposed to "regular" skis?

-My girlfriend was having trouble learning to turn since she is not very
athletic.  Would this type of ski make turning significantly easier?

Any Help would be appreciated -- Ski Season Is Already Here!
-- 
.---John D. Laessig-------.-------------------------------------------.
|   Physics Building #16  |   "Ski straight;                           |
|   Lehigh University     |     if something gets in your way turn."   |
`---Bethlehem, PA 18015---^-------------------------------------------'
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From: torenvl@ecf.toronto.edu (TORENVLIET GERARD LAWRENS)
Subject: Re: Skiing in Scotland
Organization:  University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: uk, na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:40:12 GMT

In article <29718@castle.ed.ac.uk> W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk writes:
>In article <2630@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, sc7@ukc.ac.uk (S.Chan) writes:
>|> Hi,
>|> Can anyone tell me if it is a good idea to go up to Scotland for
>|> skiing around the Christmas/New Year period?
>
> Realistically, the answer for you is probably no. Unless you have
>cheap accomodation nearby it will cost you nearly as much to ski in
>Scotland as it will to ski abroad (say, Andorra?) and the weather, snow

If you are just going to be in Scotland, anyways, though, I have heard that
there are a number of half decent resorts.  A POWDER magazine from last year 
had an article on this..I will try to find it when I go home this weekend, but
if I remember well, the authors said that it was an unique experience skiing in Scotland.

Merry Christmas,
Gerard

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From: waw@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Mad Dog SkiDeath Wes,email Wesley.Wright@uvm.edu)
Subject: Re: Volant skis?
Originator: waw@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:17:44 GMT

From article <92350.215130ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, by Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>:
> Seems I can get a good deal on Volant skis, but I haven't had a chance
> to demo them. Can anyone tell me something about the FX-2 and the FX-3?
> (ie, have you skied them, how were they? Handeling characteristics?)
> Also, what are the list and typical selling prices?
> 
> Thanks.
I tried the FX-3 (205) at the recent demo day at Stowe in VT.  The
conditions were very "New England", (man made on top of hard pack/
boiler plate).  IMHO these skis were just plain wierd. They cut some OK
slalom turns and went wicked fast. They always went where I pointed
them. Unlike the above reviewer, I found the tune and edge grip to be
tenacious; however, the ski seemed...I dunno, dead, maybe? Kinda lifeless?
That's why I say "wierd". I skied a pair of Authier Zubiflex Geant skis (207)
right before the Volants, and I thought they were absolutely wonderful. I
wonder what I would have thought of the Volants if I skied them before the
Authier, or if I didn't ski the Authiers at all. I also tried a Rossignol
SK7 (or are they SX now?) in a 208. They didn't seem to have any edge at
all, compared to the other two. 

So my final analysis is that I'd like to try the Volants for an entire day
before I make a final call. One run wasn't enough. The rep also told me I
should try the 200s for a more lively feel.

For reference, I usually ski a 205 Volkl P9SL. I had a pair of old Blizzard
V20 Thermo GS (210) but somebody swiped them last year).  Please send me
$530 so I can buy myself Zubiflexes. Checks payable to:

Wesley Wright
Academic Computing Services
University of Vermont
Burlington, Vermont 05045-0160
From: shaw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Shaw Moldauer)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:58:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Powder
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, bbarkey@lark.utah.edu (Brian Barkey) writes:

> In article <BzDoJG.J61@ncube.com> zod@ncube.com writes:
> >I posted this article earlier. But I did not get any response yet.
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >How does one ski the fresh powder, or the used powder?
> >My skies tend to go different directions in those powders!
> >At some points I even get them crossed, and result in a fall.
> >Should one not parallel in those conditions?
> >
> >
> >---
> OK, here's some dubious advice.
> 
> 1) relax, if you worry about crossing them skiis, they'll cross.
> 2) forget that BS about sitting on your tails. Stay centerd on your skiis.

	The deeper the snow, the lower you go. BUT DO NOT bend at the
waist. Keep your upper body vertical, drive froward with your hips.
The more forward you drive, the slower you go. You cannot lean
forward, you will fall. If you lean back, you will accelerate and
loose your ballance.

> 3) practice alot, when I first started, it helped to
>    concentrate on 'slicing' the tails through the powder.
>    Don't try to keep the skiis close together, evenly
>    weight the two skiis. If you fall, try to use your 
>    momentum to pop back up, i.e. roll through the fall
>    It's tough getting back up in powder.
> 4) Be one with the mountain, feel the hill, be the hill,
>    consult your inner skier.....  :)
	
	Feel the farce Fluke!
> 
> 	Brian ' pinhead guru ' Barkey		
> 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: frantz@polaris.utu.fi (Kristian Frantz)
Subject: Snowboard bindings needed, Burton M6 '92
Organization: University of Turku
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:50:58 GMT


Does anyone have an extra pair of HARD bindings for last years ('92)
model of Burton's M6 snowboard? And want to get rid of them? I'd have
to pay about $220 (1100 Finnish marks) for a pair of Megaflex 3Ds. Thats
more than I will have to pay for the board. And then the inserts are
in all the wrong places. So if you have an extra pair of those (new or
little used), mail me.

By the way, what do you have to pay for the Megaflex 3Ds out there
(US, France, Germany...)?

Frasse
-------------
Kristian Frantz			frantz@polaris.utu.fi
Turku University
Turku
Finland
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: gjones@gateway (Gordon Jones)
Subject: SKI BLOWOUT AT BLUE KNOB
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:54:23 GMT




             S K I  B L O W O U T  A T  B L U E  K N O B  !


Get ready for an outrageous skiing adventure at Blue Knob, January 8-10 !
For as little as $155.00 per person you can ski the highest vertical drop in
Pennsylvania (1052').  The trip includes:

   two nights lodging at RAMADA w/ tropical indoor courtyard
   parties each day (plus refreshments on the bus)
   FREE equipment rentals
   jacuzzi and pool
   round trip transportation
   free meals
   roller skating
   horseback riding

Two of the ski trails are "double diamond" trails for experts, and there are
several long, level slopes ideal for beginning skiiers.

Blue Knob is only 2 hours 45 min from D.C., so an early return home on Sunday
is possible.  For further details, contact Gordon at (703) 204-0768 or
leave message.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Volant skis?
From: Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 21:51:30 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Seems I can get a good deal on Volant skis, but I haven't had a chance
to demo them. Can anyone tell me something about the FX-2 and the FX-3?
(ie, have you skied them, how were they? Handeling characteristics?)
Also, what are the list and typical selling prices?

Thanks.
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Learn on short or long skis?
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:15:30 GMT
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Dec16.004848.15321@clarinet.com> grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson) writes:
>
>>Unless you ski faster than 40-60kmh most of the time, you will not need a ski
>>longer than 180cm.
>
>I ski mostly bumps and steeps, and the only time I hit those speeds is
>generally when I'm free-falling.  I ski 200's. I'd ski 207's if I didn't
>spend so much time in the bumps.


This brings up a question:
How do you measure your speed?---Is there some sort of BOTEC you can do
real quick at the end of a run, wind-resistance gadgets you can get or
something?

I saw something in a local ski store the other day that appeared to be
basically a spur-like wheel attached to a small LCD display. I imagine
it counts RPMs or RPSs and spits out a number that way. I've no idea
how accurate it is, nor how durable(It clips onto the tail of your
skis. I've no idea how durable or accurate it'd be.) 

TIA,
---Steve
-- 
---------
sokay@cyclone.mitre.org
		"Your Mind....My Playground" ---me
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:23:37 EST
From: <MARK@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Ski Reports and Weather Info.. Additional Info

Several folks have inquired about needing a userid and password to
access this info.  Listed below are the answers to the above:

For folks that have not seen the previous post:

There is a public domain site available via telnet that has weather
and ski report info for most major ski resorts in the United States.
Weather info via the National Weather Service is also available.
To access this info please see below.  This info is quite detailed
and very conprehensive. Weather updates are usually quite accurate
since they are usually updated hourly or as needed.

**** Ski report are located on MAIN MENU Option #4

Note: The administrators of this site have asked that this priviledge
not be abused or it will be removed..... Thanks !!!!!!!
_______________________________________________________________________

	You  MUST INCLUDE the PORT NUMBER when telneting,  The weather info is
	attached to port 3000 and requires no password or userid.

	Example:  ON IBM VM/CMS systems


	       Telnet madlab.sprl.umich.edu 3000

	Depending on the system you have, the PORT number may have to be entered
	differently than above.  See if you can issue a Help telnet or telnet ?
	commands.  This should give you more detailed info. on how to telnet and
	specify a specifac port number as a parameter

On VAX/VMS Systems:

VMS> Telnet madlab.sprl.umich.edu/port=3000

Have Fun and remember...  State Laws in West Virginia and Vermont
                          and other states  require tahe Chair Lift
                          safety bar be down at all times. !

                Mark Flugrath
                Triune/Halleck, West Virginia
                Close to Potomac Highlands, WV
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,nj.forsale
From: dgi@pyuxe.uucp (25493-iveson)
Subject: Ski Boots For Sale in Central New Jersey
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:09:11 GMT
Keywords: ski boots sale jersey


NOTE: I'm posting this for a friend, please don't respond to me, call him.

USED SKI BOOTS FOR SALE IN CENTRAL NEW JERSEY (Don't want to ship them)
***********************************************************************
Nordica N981 4 buckle
Size 10
Forward flex adj, with cable heel retention system
skied on only 20 days
Price: $60.00

Call: Brian Culp (908)699-6684
From: John_McKercher@mindlink.bc.ca (John McKercher)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: How do your feet feel?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:18:10 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

I recently had problems with a pair of Rossignol R700 boots. The inner liner
separated from the plastic piece which the velcr strap was attached to. The
boots were only a year old and after having them inspected by a factory rep,
Rossignol gave me a brand new pair of boots for free (although I did use this
opportunity to trade up to a pair of R900 boots.

The unfortunate part about all this is that now I must break in a brand new
pair of boots, two weeks before we head off for a 10 day ski trip. The boots
hurt like hell now. I had the same problem with the R700s until they were
properly broken in. Of course my wife is laughing hysterically because I went
out and paid money to upgrade to a pair of boots that kill my feet.

My question is, when you bought your new boots, did they feel comfortable on
your feet right away or was there a breaking in period after which the fit
was fine. I have heard comments from people who say that they would never buy
a boot unless they felt very comfortable in the store. I have also been told
that with any higher performance boot, it takes a while (plus a few trips to
the boot fitter) in order to get them just right.

Any comments?


John
  who looks just a little silly
    sitting here in his R900s
      typing away at the keyboard
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: uhdpc@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Conditions at Big Sky/Bridger?
Reply-To: uhdpc@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:46:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.052749.7101@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>Anyone been through Big Sky of Bridger Bowl recently and could drop me a line
>as to conditions?
	Snow - Bridger has a settled base of 45 and some nice powder.   I
haven't heard on Big Sky, but this was their $5 day weekend and tons went up,
stayed late, came home happy.  


>
>Thanks in advance
>
>-Noah Cole
>--
>Noah Cole		"Outside is America,		     NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
>Macalester College	and also the car park"	            ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
>St. Paul, MN 55105    	- Bono, 27 December 1989      cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
>612-696-7388 		 	Dublin	            aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: Pierre Magnenat <PMAGNENA@ULYS.UNIL.CH>
Subject: FIS RESULTS
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7522044C1023104@cividy102a.unil.ch>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:28:04 GMT
Organization: Lausanne University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:24:15 GMT


Some results:

Val Gardena, 2nd downhill:

1.	Stock
2.	Besse
3.	Kitt
4.	Girardelli
5.	Lichtenegger
6.	Skaardal
7.	Lehmann
8,	Hoflehner
9.	Mahrer
10.	Ortlieb

Alta Badia, giant:

1.	Girardelli
2.	Feutrier
3.	Tomba
4.	Accola
5.	von Grueningen
6.	Nyberg
7.	Locher
8.	Pieren
9.	Salzgeber
10.	Wallner

World cup, 14/12/92:

1.	Girardelli (Lux)	236
2.	Thorsen (Nor)	197
3.	Besse (Sui)	180
4.	Tomba (Ita)	176
5.	Stock (Aut)	150
6.	Heinzer (Sui)	144
7.	Aamodt (Nor)	133
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Snowboarders Suck!!!!
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:43:36 GMT

In article <BzD4Iu.6Ju@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker) writes:
> I started to write a long reply to this one, but it's not worth it. 

I thought this was what FAQs are for......

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
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From: zod@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: test #4
Reply-To: zod@ncube.com
Organization: nCUBE CORPORATION
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:53:33 GMT

This is test #4. Please reply if you see this article.

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