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From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: WANTED: MPU-401 or MPU-IPC Roland Interface
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:22:17 GMT


Please let me know if you have one of these for sale, and how much you'd
like for it.  A friend of mine is searching for one.

Doogie
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Re: convert M1 patches to T3, anyone?
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 05:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.194516.8679@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c162-bb@po.berkeley.edu (Edmund Seto) writes:
|>well, the subject says it all.  can anyone help me convert korg  m1 sysex to
|>t3 sysex?  I need help for both programs and combinations.
|>

No conversion needed.  The T3 will read M1 sysex directly.
It's 100% M1 compatible.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

Avoiding the first (smart aleck) answer that came to mind:

WS-EX:  Easy to program, joystick for vector synthesis.

WS-SR:  Tiny display, 1U rack.  

I'm not interested enough in the SR to know about things like
more outputs.  I'd think of it as a way to get "those neat WS
sounds" without having to actually develop them.  IMHO, the
SR is going to be a boon for the third-party ROM makers.

ObSA comment:  The EX is the one with the keys on the front...

Pete Brooks

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: malouin@engin.umich.edu (Curt Malouin)
Subject: Re: Looking for a drumcomputer w/ Tape Sync
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 16:14:07 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <168969E1A.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <1d8anmINN1773@obelix.uni-muenster.de>
>hund@math.uni-muenster.de (Ulli Hund) writes:
>>  Is there a good and/or cheap drumcomputer
>>that has Tape-Sync and full (that is in, out, &thru)
>>MIDI support? Has anybody made experience with
>>one?
>One that comes close is the Oberheim DX. It has tape synch, Midi in & out,
>among other things.

No MIDI thru, unfortunately, and the out isn't a soft through.
Our usual setup is:

 ------------       -----------------        --------------
|    sync out|--->-|tape in          |      |              |
|            |     |         MIDI out|--->--|MIDI in       |
|  4 TRACK   |     |     DX          |      |         MAC  |
|            |     |          MIDI in|-<----|MIDI out      |
|            |     |                 |   |  |              |
 ------------       -----------------    |   --------------
                                         |
                                       OTHER
                                        MIDI
                                       STUFF

The DX reads the tape sync and sends MIDI starts, stops, and
clocks to the sequencer.  The sequencer sends MIDI note-ons
to the DX (and everything else), so the DX sequencer is not
used.  The DX has no problem with this setup.

>It's cheap too. A friend (hi Curt!) bought one used & in good shape for $50.
>--Eric

Well, pretty good shape at least :)

	-curt
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ricard@axis.se (Ricard Wolf)
Subject: Re: rec.music.synth renaming and changing focus
Organization: Axis Communications AB, Lund Sweden
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:22:00 GMT


What I'd like to know is: when is this going to happen, or is it already
taking place, slowly, under out feet?

/Ricard
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for a drumcomputer w/ Tape Sync
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:14:31 GMT

In article <1d8anmINN1773@obelix.uni-muenster.de>
hund@math.uni-muenster.de (Ulli Hund) writes:
 
>  Is there a good and/or cheap drumcomputer
>that has Tape-Sync and full (that is in, out, &thru)
>MIDI support? Has anybody made experience with
>one?
 
One that comes close is the Oberheim DX. It has tape synch, Midi in & out,
among other things.
 
It's cheap too. A friend (hi Curt!) bought one used & in good shape for $50.
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Kenneth J. Stineman <stineman@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: FOR SALE: Roland TR505 Drum Machine
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A728395AAE016802@dnwalkerkip2.princeton.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:39:54 GMT
Organization: Princeton University Class of '93
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:36:06 GMT

Roland TR 505 Drum Machine

great condition, no manuals.
Good first drum machine.
16 sampled drum sounds.
Various methods of recording drum tracks

MAKE AN OFFER!

DO NOT REPLY ON THIS BOARD, I NEVER READ IT
ALL REPLIES BY EMAIL OR PHONE TO:
Hardin Gray
AHGRAY@COLBY.EDU
OR
(207) 877-4338
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: To keep the r.m.s rename is _not_ elitist (was Re: *BAD*...)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:45:54 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov:
>chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>By choosing ignorance, they acted.  By choosing inaction, they acted.
>What if they didn't choose inaction?

Unless they are robots or were under duress, they _did_ choose
inaction.  Perhaps that choice was made back when they could have read
news.announce.newusers, and didn't.  Or perhaps it was when they could
have subscribed to news.announce.newgroups, and didn't.  In any case,
they _did_ choose.

>Maybe the others don't want to be in the discussion because they don't
>see a point.

Now who's assuming?

>You (we) admin folk will never see the horror of what you are advocating
>like a user would.

"Horror"?  I advise you to obtain one (1) sense of proportion.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
                 just another elitist Usenet administrator
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18062 rec.music.makers.synth:1 austin.forsale:2431 misc.forsale:30725
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: sync MC202(analog) w/R5(midi) re:tapesync!!!!!!!
Summary: sync MC202(analog) w/R5(midi) re:tapesync!!!!!
Keywords: analog midi MC202 R5tape sync synth
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:07:20 GMT


Well, I think this might be my big contribution to R.M.S. (I wouldn't
doubt Someone prob. already thought of it.:(     )

I asked the question earlier in the week re: the tape sync on the MC202
and the R5 and whether they are compatible.  Well, they are!!!! I used the
R5 to put down a tape sync to my trusty porta 1, and then did a split out
of my porta one to the R5 AND the MC202, and it worked like a charm!!!!  I
can now have some analog sequences from my MC202 working with my midi set
up from my computer.  NEXT:

I am going to see if using a direct tape out from my drum machine will
keep my MC202 working, and......

since the MC202 can actually control a slave as well, I should be able to
control other analog synths with it as well.



Now only if the MC202 sequencer was user friendly     :)



R. Martin
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Re: SGI Indigo: Dig. Audio & Animation
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:17:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.043722.28124@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>We have twelve NeXTs and Three SGIs.  Both are great
>machines, but note that we chose to sit in front of the
>NeXTs all day (and night) long, and only use the SGIs for
>the graphics programs written for them (and number
>crunching)...and dogfighting ;-)

OK, ok: we have fourteen NeXT's (for the undergrads) and three SGI's (for
serious work :-), and *I* prefer to sit in front of my Indigo R4000 all day :-)

I urge you to look at an Indigo with real graphics and a real CPU (that is,
R4000 plus at least XS24 graphics) before knocking them.

Although programming access to the 56001 seems to be somewhat of a secret,
it's not really necessary given the great standard audio support provided
with the machine, and the fact that the power of the R4000 will allow many
former DSP applications to be written in C. Another outstanding aspect of
the Indigo is the speed of the GIO bus, which was 133MB/sec peak on the
33Mhz Indigo, and may be faster (?) on the 50Mhz boxes.

It's overkill for most pure audio applications (certainly I'm amazed that
anyone would port a sequencer to it), but if you're into the M-word
you can't beat it.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson <eh@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Nice dubbing-deck seen at low price.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A728357A6702C0D8@rahab.ljo.dec.com>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:23:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:19:43 GMT

Damark (might be COMB) has the Teac version (judging by appearances) of
the Tascam 202 dubbing deck for $129.00  If the past is any predictor,
this means that rack ears, and other accessories should be compatible.

And, you get a 10-day return policy.

But, I'm more sold on the Marantz PMD-500 (that stands for bucks).  Real
solid-looking, machine.  Wish I could see one locally.  I'm assuming that
this is the Phillips Marantz.
It's a true rack-mount, no ears, Dolby B,C, and HX-Pro.

Eirikur
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: USENET protocols were VIOLATED...  NOT!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 01:33:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsd.edu

In article <BxB9Bp.8K6@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, smithj@sr.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:
> 
> Reading the how to create new newsgroups article in news.groups,
> I see this rule:
> 
> 7) A vote should be run only for a single group proposal.  Attempts to create
> multiple groups should be handled by running multiple parallel votes rather
> than one vote to create all of the groups.
> 
> Was this rule violated in the recently contended renaming of rec.music.synth?
> It was BENT, at least!
> FOUR groups were affected!!
> 

AND THERE WERE FOUR (actually 5) separate (multiple parallel) votes!  

> Does this information help?  
 
No.  It's a complete waste of, to quote your .sig, "Other People's Money".
(Clearly, I am guilty as well as this response is not really necessary)..

> I am only posting this to rec.music.synth, as I am merely a caveman and
> don't understand your modern technology.  

Dare I say...obviously.

> Perhaps someone more savvy than
> I can make appropriate use of this information.

I don't think so, unless you can find someone to cancel your article for you.

>  - Jim
>    ("Who ARE these people???"  - Other People's Money)
From: trog@midiline.la.ca.us (Ralph Stempel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 15:01:30 PST
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU writes:

> Mr. "scrupulously fair" refused to accept my NO vote on the name change.
> 
> Bill Scott

   My NO vote also bounced, for reasons that I cannot understand. I think 
at the very least we need to call for another vote. (I suppose lynching 
is out of the question.)

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From: wtkwest@duncan.cs.utk.edu (tsew mailliw)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Oracle Most Wise - Please Tell Us......
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:32:29 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: /dev/null
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
Keywords: rec.music.synth, oracle


	Almighty, All-knowing, All-powerful USENET Oracle,
whose musical skills superceed those of all mortal man,
whose infinite wisdom allow him to create voicings, rich
in texture an infinitely deep in complexity, please
ponder the following question:
	What will become of my beloved newgroup
rec.music.synth after it has surgery to 'improve' its
already sleek and ergonomic design? Will the improved
name be a front for future competetion, or will the name
change just make it easier to lump all musicians in one
group of misguided supplicants.
	Why were the unknowing masses not given warning?
Why did not someone suggest:
	rec.music.synth.computers
	rec.music.synth.software
	rec.music.synth.binaries.patches
	rec.music.synth.musicians
	rec.music.synth.NAMM
	rec.music.synth.forsale

(or rec.music.makers.synth.*),
	so that we, your humble servants, don't have to sort
through 200+ messages per day.....?

	Please ponder this most humble of requests.
---------
mmasog (your most humble servant)

PS. I am for changing the group's name, but not necessarily
for the implication that I must be a music 'maker', to enjoy
synthesizers and their musicality.
From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:31:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpsad.86340005
Organization: no risk to you!

In rec.music.synth, dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes:

    <...>
    As a news admin and a reader of rec.music.synth, and noticing that the
    vote passed by one measly vote (there were 101 more yes than no votes)
    I am officially stating my intent to NOT honor the newgroup for 
    "rec.music.makers.synth" and to keep alive the "rec.music.synth" newsgroup.

    <...>
    I also encourage other news admins out there to look into this problem as an
    example of an officially sanctioned act that will turn out to inconvienence
    a lot of people. This is bogus, folks.

This would be WONderful, if everyone does it.  But what if some sites drop
rec.music.synth and the traffic gets split?  Is there anything that can be
done about this netwide?  

It really has been a devastating month for the rec.music.synth crowd, and
it's sad to see the group dissipated by this incursion.

	    - Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Roland's first MIDI synth
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:04:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.161807.1@acad.drake.edu>, seh003@acad.drake.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Nov06.155638.25562@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
|>   [stuff deleted]
|> 
|> > He talks about being at a NAMM show and hooking
|> > up their Prophet 600 to a Roland (can't remember the keyboard but
|> > assuming Dan is right, it was a Jupiter 6) via MIDI - the first
|> > time ever that 2 MIDI products were hooked up.
|> 
|> I'm working from memory here, so pardon me if I'm wrong.  But wasn't the
|> Prophet 600 first hooked to a Yamaha DX7?  If memory serves, that first hook-up
|> failed miserably...

I don't think so. Roland was one of the few companies that was enthusiastic
about doing a common synth protocol (ie. MIDI). Many companies were
against MIDI because of various reasons (protocol is too slow, should be
parallel not serial, should use standard XLR instead of DIN plugs etc.).
Besides the DX7 came out several years after MIDI and MIDI-based products
started coming out.

You are however partially right in that the Prophet 600 to Jupiter 6
hookup did show some incompatibilities because the spec was vague in
some areas and so was interpreted differently by Sequential and Roland.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.190631.26780@cs.hut.fi> killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle  
Kivimaa) writes:
> In <1992Nov5.160823.2450@vicorp.com> judy@vicorp.com (Judy Hawkins)  
writes:
> >There was no discussion that I saw, and I read r.m.s. almost daily.
> 
> Discussion takes place in news.groups, as provided by the guidelines.
> This is to minimize crossposting and a flood of articles that do not
> concern the topic of the newsgroup.  RFD's and CFV's are posted to
> every group concerned.
> 

I'm a little tired of this "as provided by the guidelines" thing. Do the  
guidelines also state that the subject for the articles SHOULDN'T contain  
the name of the newsgroup being affected?

> I personally scan news.groups every day.  It normally takes about
> 10 seconds per day, and I think I can afford it.

I used to do this too until I got tired of scanning through the seemingly  
hundreds of rec.harley.whatever articles a few months back.

Again - if the pointer to the discussion in news.groups from  
rec.music.synth had been more clear we wouldn't have this problem.

Gordon
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From: hcpark@owlnet.rice.edu (Howard C Park)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Help me reach Flavio!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:52:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.BxHKBI.3AJ
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

Flavio, for some reason, I'm still having difficlty reaching you.  I've tried the "87141167@BRUFSC.BITNET", but it came back.  I've sent in a request for someone here at my end to help me out with this.  I should be getting back to you soon.

This is so embarassing.

Thanks for your patience.

Howard.
hcpark@rice.edu
From: shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: USENET protocols were VIOLATED!!!
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:33:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hijack.berkeley.edu

In article <BxB9Bp.8K6@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> smithj@sr.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:
>7) A vote should be run only for a single group proposal.  Attempts to create
>multiple groups should be handled by running multiple parallel votes rather
>than one vote to create all of the groups.
>
>Was this rule violated in the recently contended renaming of rec.music.synth?

This rule was not violated.  There _were_ multiple votes; i.e. you could vote
separately on the different groups.  The vote proposals were all bundled
into one posting, however, but there's nothing bad about that.

I do think that requiring people to carefully read any CFV, no matter how
tenuously connected it seems from the subject, just in case someone is
trying to rename your newsgroup out from under you, is a bad policy.
Since the guidelines explicitly allow CFVs to go to any newgroup at all
related to the proposed topic, it is false that a CFV in a group will directly
affect that group.  Thus, my opinion is that the subject line should make it
clear which groups will be modified.

Ken Shirriff				shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU
From: f1toyl@uta.fi (Topi Ylinen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: How to read this newsgroup with rn
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


Type CTRL + K

Insert a line: /*BAD*/ :j

save and exit.

Aaahhhhhhh....!

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cmedley@wam.umd.edu (PhliP)
Subject: Re: Yamaha SY85  /TG500
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:24:24 GMT


Can anyone post the street price(s) for the SY85 and/or TG500 in email?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: Tape Sync- How does it work?
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:24:50 GMT


Hi, all...

I have a MPU-IPC interface by Roland, and a Vestax 4 track recorder.

The Vestax has tape in/out RCA jacks, and the Roland has Tape in/out
jacks also.

My question is:

Can these two be interfaced?
What is the difference between MIDI tape sync and tape sync.  Is there a
difference?


Any information would really help.

Thanks in advance!
Doogie
____________________________________________________________________________
    Jeff House                     "I am nobody telling everybody about
 house@dg-rtp.dg.com                somebody that can save anybody."
 doogie@catt.ncsu.edu 			 wjhouse@eos.ncsu.edu
From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Hand-held recorder for sampling
Keywords: sampling
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:52:04 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

cornutt@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (David Cornutt) writes:

> I'm looking for a battery-powered, hand-held recorder for sampling.
> I'd like to be able to do something like walk around the office
> hitting things (desks, bookcases, co-workers, etc.) without lugging
> around a heavy recorder and trying to find a place to plug it in.

I highly recommend a DAT walkman.  I've got one made by Aiwa and it's great;
I use it almost exclusively for getting raw sample material in the field.
I also take it to the studio for mastering sessions, so I can run a second
DAT master alongside the studio's unit.

> The Walkman-type things I've tried had such poor microphones that
> the result was unusable.  Can anyone give me a recommendation?

Just use any lightweight, decent quality recording mike and you'll get good
results.

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