HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: who posted Tank_Girl.gif to the image archive?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:37:29 GMT

Hmm, well, this Tank_Girl.gif is a b&w photograph (actually it looks
like a positive... what do they call those?  contact strips?) of what
looks to be a woman wearing glasses.  Not very comic strippy.

C'mon, fess up!
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: gvanzura@cornerstone.com (Glenn Vanzura)
Subject: Re: X hats at raves
Reply-To: gvanzura@cornerstone.com (Glenn Vanzura)
Organization: Cornerstone Research
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:08:19 GMT

I have a great X hat.  It's definitely more stylin' than plain Malcolm X 
hats.  The X is not simply two straight lines crossed.  It's fancier than 
that.  Mine's black and grey, but I know they come in better color 
combinations.

I got it in Austin, Texas (where I moved from 2 months ago), and lost it at 
Hardcore II up in Half Moon Bay (Another ragin' rave).  I called the folks 
back in Austin and was able to talk them into sending me one via UPS.

Here's there address and phone #:

Armadillo Sports
1800 Barton Springs Road
Austin, Texas 78704

(512) 478-4128

The cost was $17.00 + $1.36(tax) + $3.00(S&H) = $21.36

Hope you like it, and Keep Ravin'!


Glenn "I'm a Raving Lunatic" Vanzura


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (DISCO BISCUIT)
Subject: Re: CD'S SUCK,..LONG LIVE WAX
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.234030.31991@rs6000.bham.ac.uk>, pickerig@eee.bham.ac.uk (Mr. G. Pickering) writes...
>misd1cp@dct.ac.uk wrote:
>: 
>: 
>:             BACK TO THE TECHNO-ONCE MORE-BACK TO THE TECHNO-HARDCOREEEE
>: 
>: WHY IS IT THAT ALL THE MUSIC I SEE THAT U BUY IN AMERICA IS ON CD...DONT U
>: BUY VINAL..SOME OF THE TUNES OVER HERE ARE WICKED..JUNGALISTIC,DUB,HIGHBEAT
>: ALL U EVER GO ON ABOUT IS THE ORB AND LOADS OF OLD OR SLOW STUFF..HASNT
>: HIGHBEAT REACHED OVER THE POND YET(138-150 BPM)
>: SOME NEW STUFF JUST OUT ON RISING HIGH...VERY HIGH...152-158 BPM...CANT
>: REMEMBER THE NAME,BUT WILL FIND OUT TONIGHT.AS FOR THE KLF...WERE GOOD,NOW
>: DEAD,LET THEM REST IN PEACE.
>: 
>: 
>: 
>: 
>: 
>: TRIPPER.

	Is Jungalistic the style i have been hearing latly? The last couple
of raves i went to were far from "TECHNO". It was around 150-160 BPM and
had more of a tribal beat to it. A lot of songs have a melody riff that sounds
like a speeding Xylophone and a bunch of clicks and wood blocks. There were
no boring altern8 riffs or mundane "rave alarms". Is this Jungalistic?
If so..can someone mail me or make a list of this Jungalistic Music? The only
thing I can relate to this music is Aphex Twins. I also heard goofy versions
of A-ha's take on me and InnerCity's Good life. Are these legit trax or just
something the DJ put together...

dan
From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Richard W Rackham)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: PRODIGY's new (?) single
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:16:38 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Richard Vowles (richard@nacjack.gen.nz) wrote:
: 
: PRODIGY I understand have recently released a single. It's flipside
: (Rough in the Jungle Business?) was played on local campus radio (BFM,
: Louder Than A Bomb) by representatives of the only dance only music
: shop in Auckland (BASSLINE Records).
: 
: My question is this, what is the other side called? Its only on promo
: here and will be commercially available in about two - three weeks....

The other side is called "Out of Space" - both tracks are remixes from their
recent album "The Prodigy Experience".  It's just come out this week in the UK.

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From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Grave t-shirt
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:55:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Serious Deviations
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

I mentioned something about the Grave t-shirts that are floating around
Milwaukee in my last post.  I've gotten a few requests for them so I'm
contacting the person who has had these printed.  As soon as I know whether
or not he's interested in setting up some sort of a mail-order procedure
I'll post something here to let y'all know.


______________________________________________________
Steve J. White
my virtual spheres of consciousness can be reached at:
aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER)
Subject: Re: Rave movement in CHICAGO ?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:33:21 GMT

rcs05881@cs.fit.edu (Nicolas Bamberski /ADVISOR Jones) writes:
>
>HI!
>
>I am a french student in Florida and gonna move to CHICAGO in december to work.
>I don't know anybody overthere, and I am pretty much rave-oriented.
>So, if some Chicago ravers are reading this, please make contact...
>Questions:
>	- how is the rave scene in Chicago ?
>	- what good hardcore/transe/techno/etc... nightclubs do you have ?
>	- are raves and clubs rather E-oriented or A-oriented ?
>	- Christmas rave ?
>
>
>	See you, BAMBI: rcs05881@cs.fit.edu



  I too am on a quest for information about the rave scene in Chicago.
  I grew up in Palatine, a small 'burb on the Northwest side, but have 
  been away for quite some time.  I am currently an engineering student
  at Michigan Tech, located in the frozen bowels of god's (forsaken) 
  country, but I'll be graduating in May and plan to find work in 
  Chicago.  I'd love any information on the scene there, including        any raves around New Years? (I know it`s early, but I'm sure there      will be plenty).  I'd appreciate either a post or email.
  
  Thanks, Steve.

			 Sorry, no signature yet.  Vetter@mtu.edu 


  PS-  I'm FUCKING COLD !   
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on Orb etc. etc.
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:22:25 GMT

"Chill Out" by the KLF.
"Space" by Space (? haven't heard it, but it's ambient)
You might like Brian Eno's new album.
(at risk of reputation) Enigma's album.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         So the odds against him were higher than a vanload of hippies
                   on a blotterful of Owlsley's Old Original.
                           There was still a chance.
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: 808 State
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:15:36 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Hey....
I posted a question about this last week, and someone responded, but my finger
accidently touched something and it was gone...Anyone have any info on when
808 State's new CD is coming out?? It was posted on that releases list as Nov.
3rd, but it isnt out yet, and now on the latest "releases" posting, theres no
sign of it at all!! Anybody got any info??

                                                          Peace
                                                           RJ
P.S. This weekend I picked up the Orb's "Adventures..." and "UFOrb"...and as
a new Orb listener who bought the CD's solely on the strength of the postings
here, I must say, Im not at all disappointed!!! And yes, that casing for the
UFOrb double CD is *very* clever!! I think that as soon as it catches on,
everyone will release their double CD's this way...Saves a lot of space!!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Drugs
Keywords: I hate this line. I really do. *BARF*
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 20:11:19 GMT

In <1de3fgINNph0@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Chris Tilbury) writes:
>In article 487@dcs.ed.ac.uk, I hate people mailing me. () writes:
>> I'd love to know what sort of drugs are going on in America just now.
>> I don't mean Crack, I mean nice ones like E, Trips, Speed and Coke?
>FACT : There is no such thing as a "nice" drug. There are bad drugs, and there are "badder" drugs. If you think you're doing yourself any favours by taking them, you're fooling yourself. (Ps. This is _not_ an anti-drugs post. I'm certainly not in any position to condemn anyone for taking them....)

FACT: You are ridiculously overhyped here.  Unless you want to include
alcohol, nicotine, and asprin in your statements about "drugs", you are
being a hypocrite.

FACT: posts are easier to respond to if the poster hits a carriage
return or two.

FACT: if you really want FACTS about drugs, try reading some medical
journals (like the ones recommending THC from marijuana for cancer and
glaucoma patients), or even alt.drugs.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
They might be fake, they might be lies, They might be big, big, fake, fake lies
From: R.J.Bell@bradford.ac.uk (RJ BELL)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Stop all the crap before it really starts.
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:50:28 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91791405@muser

In article <1992Nov3.142517.19127@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> gary@ayou34.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>
>	Everyone,
>
>	Why the sudden eruption of all the childish crap between
>	Americans and people over in the UK.
>
>	There's going to be a lot of differences between the two 
>	countries, good comment on them, just leave out the 'Mines
>	better than your's' bullshit.
>
>	Later,
>	Gary

I Agree, both countries have a rave scene, one on the up (USA) and one in
a transitional phase at the moment (UK). The scene here is going back to
the underground, and you have to know where to look to find the best events,
not just go to the biggest events as they tend to be crap (There are of course
some exceptions).

 So don't slag each other's countries off, it's bad enough that USA ravers
are starting to have the same trouble with the authorities that we have!

 On the above subject, I was at a rave 2 years ago which took place under a
Motorway bridge by a river in Wakefield, West Yorks, that got busted by the
police. There were 800 people there, of which 300 were arrested and the rest
of us had to sit in a field from 2.15 to 7.00am while the police decided 
what they were going to do with us! 6 of my friends were locked up and charged
with Public Order Offences, and they had been trying to go home when they 
happened upon the majority of West Yorkshire Constabulary who were trying to 
sneak up on the Rave.

 Rob.
 
-- 
DANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCE DJ MANYK DANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCE
D   Robert Bell     Bradford University Management Centre        Bradford, UK  A
N  Head of Disco, Bradford University.   email r.j.bell@bradford.ac.uk         C
E   "To err is human, to play cool tunes is divine."                           D
From: msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: And another thing
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:19:31 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

In article <1992Nov5.132940.5793@axion.bt.co.uk>, jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell) writes:
> alt.drugs cannot be read in the UK, you must read it via a link to the USA,
> freedom of speech, huh?

Thanks.
(figured as much)

    (========)
   (==========)           why                      winner?
    (=======)                be                   a
      \ \ \ \                  a                be
                                loser        can
So any idea how??                    when you
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Ambient FAQ
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:05:27 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <0096380E.0D4DD2A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Where is the ambient FAQ available on archive?

At soda.berkeley.edu, under /pub/sfraves/music/.  Along with a TON of other 
stuff.  Everything there is in compressed format (*.Z) but if you don't have
an uncompress program simply ask for the file without the .Z extension, and
soda will uncompress it automagically before downloading it.

	Brian
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers)
Subject: Re: Drugs in Britain
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:03:24 GMT

In article <BxII6v.5zJ@dcs.ed.ac.uk> djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter) writes:
>Before someone points out that the numbers of people taking the party 
>drugs are much lower, it is thought that 1 million of Britains 60 million 
population have taken Ecstasy.

The figure that the media quotes for summer was 500,000 people a week, but the
media and E are another story (as hammy the hamster would say)
 

-- 
|boingboingboingboingboingboingboingboingboin~ Fergal  "no sleep till bedtime"|
|            A LEAP AHEAD                    ~ Somers.  ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie    |
|          THROUGH INSANITY                  ~ JEDER FUER SICH UND GOTT GEGEN |
|boingboingboingboingboingboingboingboingboin~ ALLES -  but always SKATE HARD |
Xref: sparky alt.rave:4659 alt.music.alternative:14922
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto / Orbital / Ultramarine
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:03:21 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Nov6.220932.8464@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (marvin the martian) writes:
>In article <6NOV92014513@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu>
>omf@hacks.arizona.edu writes: 
>|Hi folks!
>|
>|Well, it looks like these three bands are playing here in ol' Tucson
>|on the 22nd.  I'm only familiar with Orbital - anybody want to give
>|me a quick rundown on the other two?  Better yet, if someone has already
>|seen this concert elsewhere, let me know how it went.
>
>Meat Beat Manifesto is industrial with a hip-hop edge....My personal
>favorite industrial band....
>
>I too would like to know more about Ultramarine, since I'm going to
>this show most likely as well (wow, Moby and Orbital in the same
>month!  can't wait...)

although i personally have not heard ultra marine, i've read that they are
trance stuff a la the orb.  but it's worth the price of admission to see
orbital and meat beat, however.  they are coming to houston on november 25
(the wednesday before thanksgiving) at #s.

yours,m
From: Bruce.Scott@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: Cassava (was Re: malthus)
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:15:46 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:

>Cassava is, to a first approximation, starch (and water).  You
>may be more familiar with its processed form: tapioca.
>
>What little protein it has is of poor quality (deficient in
>methionine, like many vegetable proteins; it scores a 22 on a protein
>quality scale where egg proteins are 100, milk 85, beef 83, oats 79,
>soy flour 73, white flour 47, cornmeal 42.)
>
>A diet of just cassava is inadequate for survival.

Eben. If the millions who depend on it for food had enough food in an
actual sense, then they would not depend on cassava as a staple. Since
they plainly do, then it follows that there exist people who have
populated their region to a greater extent than is reasonably
sustainable, even by the most primary of standards.

Gruss,
Dr Bruce Scott                             The deadliest bullshit is
Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik       odorless and transparent
bds at spl6n1.aug.ipp-garching.mpg.de                 -- W Gibson


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From: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Subject: Re: Real-world solutions
Organization: ISA Corp. (Calgary)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:46:41 GMT

How can any agricultural system that's as heavily dependent on fossil
fuels  as ours is make any reasonable claim of being sustainable?  Our
food supply system would instantly collapse without the fossil fuels to
run the tractors, to generate the fertilizer, and to  transport the
food around the country.

Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
From: psmith@alfred.carleton.ca (Peter Smith)
Subject: Re: GP wants you, was Re: government organic food purchase
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:20:53 GMT

In <1992Nov12.155844.2610@nstn.ns.ca> dc_ags@ac.nsac.ns.ca (Don Christie) writes:

>>Instead of starting a redundant political movement, why not join
>>the worldwide Green movement, which has been working the issue for
>>a while from exactly the angle you suggest.  Find your local Green
>>Party and go to a meeting.  The local meetings are the heart and
>>soul of the Green movement, since that's where *all* the decisions
>>are made.  If your local Green Party hasn't formed yet, find your
>>regional organizer and volunteer.

>The Green movement, like many of the other so-called `environmentalist'
>groups like Greenpeace, exist as much for economic gain as they do
>for their stated purpose. Many of the rank-and-file membership are indeed
>sincere in their desire to better our environment. The organizers, on the
>other hand, gain financially from their efforts, and I suggest that much,
>if not MOST of their motivation for promoting the movement is to bolster 
>their incomes.

How do you know this about the Green Party specifically?  You sound as
though you've been involved in the organization.  I'm very interested
in what you've found out, Don.

>//Don
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Who ELSE could have written The Adventures of Wild Bill Groady??
From: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: malthus
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 02:46:25 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents


In article <1992Nov6.163726.1019@nstn.ns.ca> dc_ags@ac.nsac.ns.ca writes:

 > I don't pretend to be any expert on the subject, but I am familiar with the
 > way that the Department of Agriculture here makes its decision on what (if
 > any) knowledge or technology will find its way into the food production
 > process. 

  [ . . . ]

Thanks for this, Don. I had not intended to direct my comments to the
agricultural sector in particular, but you have nevertheless offered
some very useful information indeed. Basically, what you describe is
the way our Department/s are traditionally structured as well, most
particularly in playing umpire to the qualification of knowledge
arising from rural research and innovation.

At the moment we are also trying something new again through the Land
Management Society here, which may have a key *intercalary* role to play
as an impartial clearing house of information to the various players
involved. It has fallen to me in my capacity as an anthropologist to
coordinate the development of such a role.

Without going into a complicated argument about existing political and
economic divisions in the rural community, what we are trying to get at
essentially is how various people interpret the information they have
at their disposal in two different respects:

        1. According to what they filter out of the information which
        has got through to them, creating an intentional bias to any
        action toward research and innovation they may subsequently
        want to take.

        2. According to what information has got through to them cf
        what has failed to get through, creating an unintentional
        bias.

My argument is that instead of concentrating so exclusively on qualifying
the knowledge made available to farmers *a posteriori*, against a paucity
of information they have access to *a priori*, by making a wealth of
information available the knowledge is subsequently imparted to a very
much informed audience. That is, we work to qualify the information
also, well ahead of the decision making processes which make knowledge
available to be integrated into the world-view of farmers.

As a rule of thumb differentiating *information* from *knowledge* in
the meantime, the former will usually invoke a "So what?" response and
may not always be transferred into long-term memory.

Anyway, does the above make sense to you? I have marked some of the key
technical terms with which some of you may not be familiar, as I do
feel it very much worth discussing further.

Gil

--
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Independent Consulting Ethnologist                            3:690/660.6
PERTH, Western Australia                                 (+61 9) 399 2401
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From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Agricultural Waste Database (AGRIC-L listserver)
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:41:09 GMT

From James.Murray@ACENET.AUBURN.EDU Thu Nov 12 21:36:58 1992
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:31:03 CST
From: James Murray <James.Murray@ACENET.AUBURN.EDU>
Subject:      Agricultural Waste Management
To: Multiple recipients of list AGRIC-L <AGRIC-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>


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