HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: xr0106@news.cis.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Ralph Bakshi,
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:55:47 GMT

>A few missed items are:
>
>    o   2nd or 3rd season of Spider-man and Rocket Robin Hood

 I'm pretty sure that Bakshi only helped out with the 1st season
of spider-man cartoons...he was later canned because Stan Lee didn't
like what Bakshi was doing... many of Bakshi's spider-man cartoons
frequently had spider-man going up against non-marvel comics type
of villians/creatures (giant dragons, robots,etc).
 later!
	Randall Glass



Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Peter Pan
Organization: Salivation Army
Date: 24 JUL 92 13:06:21    


In article <1461@flux.UUCP>, 
  kvs@adpgate.UUCP (Karl V. Schroeder) writes...

>We recently purchased the Peter Pan video for our daughter, and we noticed
>that the scene toward the end where Hook's bomb blows was changed.  We 
>remember a scene where Peter scrambles through the bomb debris to find
>Tinkerbell, after finding her he first appeals to her not to go out, and
>that he believes in her, Peter then proceeds to appeal to the audience to
>believe as well. This usually always resulted in the entire audience shouting
>we believe.

  Which version are you referring to?  Are you sure you don't have the
  animated version confused with one of the non-animated (e.g., Mary Martin)
  versions?

 - snopes

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: curt@foundation.wpd.sgi.com (Curt Schimmel)
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:51:29 GMT

In <1992Jul27.154011.10509@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com writes:

>I have to say that I get pretty annoyed at the fact that VHS owners get a
>actual release date and get their copy first while LD owners have to wait
>God knows how long before they get to buy their copy.  LD owners do not even
>get the benefit of knowing the actual date a Disney movie is released.  It
>bothers me in the fact that if most LD owners are like me, they probably
>actually do buy the movie to keep forever and dont use their VCR for anything
>more than recording an occasional TV show off TV.  Seems to me that if 
>someone is going to bootleg one of Disney's movies that it can be done just
>as easy with a VHS to VHS transfer (with good decks, minimal loss).  But I
>refuse to buy the VHS copy to hold me over until they finally release the LD.
>(though I might (and probably will) rent it).


You sound just like me.  The only hope of changing this policy is to
let them know you don't like it.  I urge you and others to write them
and tell them what you think (I've written them 3 times so far).  I've
also told them to start letterboxing at least the CAV versions.  The
address is:

	Buena Vista Home Video
	Burbank, CA  91521

(No street required).

I also sent one letter directly to Eisner's office:

	Michael Eisner
	Walt Disney Studios
	1400 Flower Street
	Glendale, CA  91221

(I'm not actually sure if Eisner's office is at that address, but it's
the closest one I've got.  The letter didn't get returned, so I assume
their mailroom figured out where to send it).

Curt
From: amorgan@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Andy Morgan)
Subject: Help in finding movie title
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:06:08 GMT

Hello disney fans, I am looking for a movie I saw years ago on the disney
show.  The movie was about a Bull Terrier, a Labrador Retriever and a 
Siamese cat that travel across the land in search of their master.  They
run into all kinds of trouble along the way.  

I would appreciate if anyone could tell me the title and also if they
know of a place you can buy the not so popular disney movies.


-- 



             /\               | Andrew Morgan
From: mross@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW - Splash Mountain OPEN!!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:30:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <1992Jul20.173400.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>
>So, who wants to volunteer for the research team to go down to
>Florida and check out my theory? :-)  And while we're at it, we can
>see how the WDW Splash differs from the DL version, since I haven't
>heard anyone talk about that yet.

I'll volunteer.  Give me the airplane ticket and I'll go anytime.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong)
Subject: DIsney at Subic
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:15:45 GMT

Fans of Disneyland and the likes might be interested to know about this
little snippet that appeared as a wired-report on The Straits Times of
Singapore: Both Disney Studios and Universal Studios are rumored to be
interested in the former Subic Airbase abandoned by the US Air Force in
Phillipines (sp?).  And that's all as far as the report goes...

Source: The Straits Times, 21 Jul 1992

Heng Cheong
  hcleong@iti.gov.sg
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: Re: Help in finding movie title
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:40:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.170608.24626@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> amorgan@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Andy Morgan) writes:
>Hello disney fans, I am looking for a movie I saw years ago on the disney
>show.  The movie was about a Bull Terrier, a Labrador Retriever and a 
>Siamese cat that travel across the land in search of their master.  They
>run into all kinds of trouble along the way.  

The Incredible Journey		1963

Directed by Fletcher Markle

Written by James Algar

Based on the book by Sheila Burnford
-- 
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=	   or		|						=
= krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| 				    - Astoroth	=
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 30 Jul 1992 11:41:24 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Latest info from WDW trip

A couple of comments regarding Stan Stroka's posting regarding the WDW
Splash Mountain.  The log cars at Disneyland seat passengers one after
the other, they hold up to 7 people (2 one behind the other, 3, then
2 more).

I am really disappointed that they would cut out the "poor Brer Rabbit"
part of the ride.  It was very atmopheric and really set the tone for the
big drop into the briar patch.

I did notice that on the "Official" CD from Disneyland/WDW that part of
the Splash Mountain music is missing.
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:08:03 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Pomona College

In article <1992Jul22.171443.7097@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
> 
> Well, if you care about films, it's always better to see a film in a decent
> theater than on the best home video system money can buy.  The resolution
> is simply better.  I don't know of any video system that yet can deliver
> quality comparable to projected 35mm film.

Well, at least not any video system that is commercially or widely
available.  And let's not even start talking about 70mm.  I'll say
it one more time:  If you haven't seen _Beauty and the Beast_ and
_Fantasia_ in 70mm on a really big screen, you haven't really seen
them at all...

--
|  Greg Orman                       greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|         "I used to love her, but I had to kill her."         |
|                                   -GnFR                      |
From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: WDW transportation question
Organization: NASA / JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:46:56 GMT


>	To get from EPCOT to the Polynesian, you do have to change monorails at
>  the TTC.  I didn't think this was too bad, but then again we didn't stay
there
>  so we only did it once. 

This is sort of "mis-information". The Polynesion is located right next to the
TTC. So you don't
have to "switch monorails at the TTC to get to the Polynesion". You could
simply just walk from
the TTC to the Polynesion via a very nice pathway for this very purpose. Or ...
you could switch
from the TTC monorail to the Magic Kingdom monorail and have it take to the
front door of the Polynesion.

The bottom line is that the Polynesion probably affords you the most convenient
options to
both the Magic Kingdom AND Epcot via monorail (Disney/MGM is another story, but
there are always the buses).
From: jmcginn@UDCPS3.CPS.UDAYTON.EDU (John McGinn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: (woops) Tennis and such at WDW
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:10:22 GMT

In my previous post, I forgot to ask about the tennis courts at WDW. Where
are they, and how far in advance do I ask for a time, if I have to? I am
going down on August 2, with my mother and a friend of mine from school,
and we are going to bring out tennis rackets to play while we are down there.

Another thing we might do is go canoeing! I saw it on Disney Channel. They
have horseback riding, canoeing, tennis, and something else that I can't
remember. (Golf too.) So I think we might go canoeing, leave my mother in
the AC'ed room, and try and enjoy ourselves. Any and all help will be
appreciated.

Thanks again.

-- 
John McGinn                              | "Would you like a box of Girl Scout
   jmcginn@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu        |  cookies?" - Girl Scout
   mcginnjw@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu       | "Are they made out of real Girl
   mcginnjw@dayton {BITNET}              |  Scouts?" - Wednesday Addams
From: cpl3q@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Charles Philip Lu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney Stock/Honeymoon
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:46:53 GMT
Followup-To: cpl3q@virginia.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia

Hi Everyone!

I have a few questions for all you disney folks out there.
I'll be getting married in May 1993 :)  and I'm thinking of
taking our honeymoon at WDW.  Trying to find ways to save some money
I believe that the honeymoon will be a tad cheaper if I purchase some
disney stock (so that I can hopefully reap the benefits of being a
shareholder).

QUESTIONS:
  1) If I purchase stock in August will I be eligible for shareholder
     benefits and is there a minimum number of shares?

  2) Assuming there is no minimum number of shares, Will we both
     be eligible for the benefits if I purchased two shares of
     disney stock under both our names? (or will one share be enough?)

  3) Any other suggestions, helpful hints, or advice would be greatly
     appreciated.

I'm currently thinking of taking 2 weeks ( 1 week for WDW, 1 week
                                           for Orlando,Kissimmee,etc)
And at WDW I'm currently thinking of the Polynesian.

Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions.

			Sincerely,

			Charlie Lu

               E-Mail : cpl3q@Virginia.EDU
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: pinocchio
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:51:31 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Jul22.144543.29292@PA.dec.com>, mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
> >OH MY!!! I thought they needed to wait until there was some significant
> >advance in video technology before they'd re-release their films on
> >video - what a pile of sh*t. 
> 
> "Pinocchio" has been extensively restored, and the upcoming video release will
> be of far better quality than the first one.  Of course, I'm sure you're so
> cynical as to think that they deliberately released a poorer quality product
> the first time around in order to dupe the public into buying it twice.

 NO - I'm so cynical as to think that they will do the same pathetic "new and
improved" hype for LAdy and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella and
so on for the next 50 years or so. The point is, as I see it, that Disney
has continued to lie about their video releases in an effort to make a
killing at both the video store and the theatre with the myth that their
films would only be released once - they've already re-released two of them
under the guise of improvements in technology and will most likely
continue to do so - of course they have that right, but as a customer who has
purchased many of their films, I have a right to be disgusted by their
attempt to manipulate me into piling more cash into their pockets than I
already have.

> Then don't see it.  Obviously many people *don't* think it's stupid, or it
> wouldn't have grossed over $15 million in its first three weeks.  

 The final projected figure of perhaps $25 million is not very impressive IMHO.
Also, how long can they pull this myth off? Pinocchio was originally
released on video at a time when many people still did not own a tape
player and when many who did wouldn't have even considered buying a
tape rather than renting them. Things have changed a great deal since then -
I'll be curious to see if they can pull it off with films like TLM or
PEter Pan which many many folks own....
 

			gln
From: jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Various
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:24:39 GMT
Reply-To: jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <Rich_Koster.0keb@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>I wonder if Disney has any rules about taking a nap
>on a bench in the theme parks?  Would it be all right as long as you
>stayed upright and didn't stretch out on the bench?  Could you cover
>yourself with the guidebooks while asleep on the park bench without a
>cast member coming over to wake you up?  Or would people stop and point,
>saying "Look, Martha, there's even homeless people at Disney World!" ;-)


The most embarrasing thing that happened to me in WDW was when my father (a
normally active 50 year old man) fell asleep in Its A Small World. We woke him
up by the end of the ride, but he snores like you wouldn't believe. Everybody
in our boat and the boat before us turned around to look at him. It is a ride
that, while enjoyable, isn't that exciting, and after a hectic schedule of fun,
adventure and pleasure, he decided to take a quick snooze.

Personnally, I think the music of Small World is not that soothing, but I 
could understand about the boat ride.
      
      ()_()  Jad R. J. Jordan		"I hope we never loose sight of one 
       (_)   MOSCOM Corporation. 	 thing... That it all started with a
	     jrjj@moscom.com		 mouse."  - Walter E. Disney
						(the all-mighty creator)
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Latest info from WDW trip
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:53:08 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <51005@seismo.CSS.GOV> tanida@seismo.CSS.GOV (Tom Tanida) writes:
>(I'm posting this for Stan Sroka, sroka@evax.gdc.com, who is having
>network difficulties.  He can get e-mail, so feel free to send comments
>to him.)
>
>   SPLASH MOUNTAIN - John McGinn better throw away the WDW survey because this 
>   ride will blow away ALL other attractions.
>
>   When the fox throws the rabbit into the briar patch is when you go down the
>   BIG drop. In the DL version prior to the BIG drop you are in an area the 
>   looks like underground (giant carrots coming down from the ceiling) where
>   the sad faced rabbits are almost mourning that the fox caught brer rabbit.
>   This may be to scary and maybe that is why this is missing from the WDW 
>   version. The entire ride is very happy and thrilling. 

Ack! I *love* the change in mood just before the main chute at the DL 
Splash Mountain! So I presume that the minor-key music is also missing
at WDW?

>    - The cost of the project was $100 million and covers 10 acres. 

Ten acres??!! Is the ride more spread out, do they have a larger
waiting area, or what? How could they possibly take up 10 acres with
this one ride??

Tom, if you could get answers to these questions from Stan, I'll bet
other people would appreciate it, too.


Thanks!
Patty

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Purchasing stock
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:50:28 PDT

In article <1449@shaman.wv.tek.com>, andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:
> 
> I've got my one share, a pretty certificate, and I get cute 15 cent
> checks four times a year.  I haven't had the heart to actually cash one
> yet.

My original stock has now been through two 4-1 splits, and at this
point I can assure you that the checks aren't cute enough to prevent
me from cashing them.  But then, I started with more than one share...

--
|  Greg Orman                       greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|         "I used to love her, but I had to kill her."         |
|                                   -GnFR                      |
From: jmcginn@UDCPS3.CPS.UDAYTON.EDU (John McGinn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Villas and Parking at WDW
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:55:58 GMT
Reply-To: jmcginn@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu

I read in a previous posting that someone stayed at a Villa in the village.
Is it owned by WDW, or is it otherwise owned? Is it worthwhile? Is it 
already in the FAQ, and I overlooked it?

Secondly, this may also be in the FAQ, but I don't have a copy due to
block space on my machine here, but they mentioned that parking was free
if you stay at a resort. Is that parking at the resort, or parking at the
parks? I will be staying at Dixie Landings starting August 2, 1992, for about
7-8 days, and will use the buses most of the time. But a friend of mine is
going along, and I want to give him the thrill of the tram ride from
the parking lot to the TTC. And then the ferry boat across the Seven Seas 
Lagoon. 

Either E-mail or posting is fine. If I get alot of Email and no postings, I
will post the info I receive to the net. 

Thanks in advance.

"I am going to Walt Disney World"- Me, last August, after I left WDW, getting
ready to go back this year. 8)

-- 
John McGinn                              | "Would you like a box of Girl Scout
   jmcginn@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu        |  cookies?" - Girl Scout
   mcginnjw@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu       | "Are they made out of real Girl
   mcginnjw@dayton {BITNET}              |  Scouts?" - Wednesday Addams
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: michael_robbins@mentorg.com
Subject: Toyko Splash Mountain OPEN?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:37:49 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation

In article <24770@dog.ee.lbl.gov> abmbca@dante.lbl.gov (Andy Megowan) writes:

>Tokyo Disneyland, incidentally, rates the best for time-in-line
>versus time-on-attraction, with the fastest lines I've ever
>waited in.
>
>Does anyone know if Tokyo Disneyland's Splash Mountain is open?
>I was there in January, and the exterior was nearly finished,
>but the main flume hadn't been installed.
>--Andy

I was there July 3 and I agree about the lines.  When I first arrived (at
10:00, right behind a tour), the lines to futureland (Space Mountain and Star
Tours) were very long (though I got through with both of them in 70 minutes
combined).  Later that day (around 15:30), it was walk right up to the coaster.

Splash mountain was not open at that time.  I think it said October 92 as the
official splash date.  There was still much to do on cosmetics though I could
see assorted workers on various coaster cars from aboard the steamboat.

The Castle was having some work done on it as well (with a crane).

Cheers,
Mick
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: Donald E. Eastlake, III <dee@ranger.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Goofy Lovers/Rejected Dwarfs/Family Mice
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:46:44 GMT

In article <m0m3HED-0000XRC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> ,
rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>Hi y'all
...
>Oh, and yes, Dumbella is the name of Heuy, Dewey & Louie's mother
(Donald's
>sister).  AND, the reason she sent the Nephews over to Unca Donald's was
>indeed because their father was recouperating from an explosion due to a
giant
>firecracker that was placed under his chair.  They then proceded to
terrorize
>Donald, but he had since began his own reign of unprovocated terror on
the
>three.  Could this be a form of child-abuse (or just desserts)? However
Donald
>was always the inevitable loser. Something (never explained) caused their
>mother to finally abandon them to Donald's care.  They have since moved
in
>with their Unca Scrooge (Donald left for the Navy).  But, at least they
have
>remained in the "Duck" family.
...
>-Rich
From:	TOOK::M_ELLISON       25-JUL-1992 07:44
To:	RANGER::DEE
Subj:	RE: >Subject: Goofy Lovers/Rejected Dwarfs/Family Mice

Hi Don-

Great stuff.  Bear in mind, that many a Disney theme is in accord with
the Grimms fairy tales.  If one looks at the Grimms collection with an
eye towards family values, it becomes obvious within a short moment that
absolutely *every* single one has a theme involving abusive parents and
what the child or children do to overcome this issue.  Most start out with
the fact that the mother died and the stepmother hates them.  Many others
deal with how kids overcome the insatiable demands of their father as
regards his demands of their becoming something inorder to be worthy of
some inheritance.  And of course, virtually all the Grimms themes involve
a step that reads, "and then something magic happened".  Sometimes this
magic is from a helpful stranger or happens in the standard enchanted
cottage in the forest (note the door is never locked, and is always in
move in condition!).

The Grimms obtained their collection of tales by secretly listening to
their telling, as these stories are essentially a European mythology
passed along from mother to daughter via the oral tradition.  Hmmm- nice,
biological mothers telling stories to their kids about wicked stepmothers
and mean fathers...and NOT about mean biological mothers...Sounds like a
possible form of matriarchy to me.

Mark
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From: hkp@daimi.aau.dk (Hans K|hling Pedersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Looking for pre-1935 Mickey Mouse cartoons...
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:06:32 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

Being a member of a club of collectors of Disney memorabilia, I am very
interested in finding copies of the early B&W Mickey Mouse cartoons in 
reasonable quality. If you know where to find these cartoons, we can offer
a very good price ($"3 figures" for a complete set). PAL videotapes would
be preferable, but NTSC, SECAM or other systems are also acceptable.

hkp@daimi.aau.dk