HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spatri@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Patri)
Subject: Re: a limerick
Reply-To: spatri@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Patri)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:34:15 GMT

Limerick:
             There was a young man named Bright
                  Who ran far faster than light
                           He went on a holiday
                              In a relative way            
                And returned the previous Night
     
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2478 soc.culture.sri-lanka:1080 soc.culture.indian:32254
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Murder of Lord Buddha.......
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:57:29 GMT
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Wolves are always volves. Once a racist chauvinist would always be a racist.

Once again, to further illustrate the irrelevancy of sc.sri-lanka, an
ugly example of Sinhala racism shows it head. 

From what background is this 'gmuvax' from?

Here's something concering the burning of the Jaffna library:
 its an excerpt from "Only man is vile" by William McGovern, 1992.

On pg 179:  

"At the end of May 1981, the police went on rampage in response to rebel
provocation. This time they sacked the house of the Jaffna Member of
Parliament, the offices of a pro-seperatist Tamil political party, a
Tamil newspaper, and dozens of shops in the bazar. They then destroyed
the Jaffna library, burning its 95,000 volume collection of
irreplaceable Tamil classics.

The police failed to repond to the attack on library, though it was
taking place not a stone's throw from a major police station. An
investigation later revealed that many police had been involved in the
carnage"

Polcemen were of course Sinhalase origins.       

Other similar acts:
Later in 1986-87, the army burned Hartley Colleges's library(an
acadically demending primary school). Small public libraries are also
target of aerial bombing.
One in Pollikandy(between Point Pedro and Velvettiturai) for example,
the army put 24 people inside and then blew the place up. Those were the
days, when the SL army couldn't be bottled up in their barracks.

-suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.indian
From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Subject: Re: Murder of Lord Buddha.......
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:59:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.181620.52384@gmuvax.gmu.edu> 2067bh@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:
>
>From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
>Subject: Murder of Lord Buddha.......
>Message-ID: <18494.2ac07598@ecs.umass.edu>
>Date: 23 Sep 92 13:48:08 GMT
>Lines: 79
>
>        The Jaffna Public Library was almost the solitary source of books 
>for  the students of Jaffna city and the  small towns and villages in the
>Jaffna peninsula. Valuable books, handwritten scripts [both on papers and
>palmyrah leaves (written by experts of those days on astrology, astronomy,
>home-medicine etc)] and books used by Dutch and English missionaries etc.
>were maintained in the library for research work and public use. 
>
>        Couple of days before the District  Development Council Elections
>(in June 1981), the library was burnt! Almost hundred thousand un-replace-
>able books (96,000) were lost. 
>
>
>
>Who did this?
>Of course LTTE animals in the civiliam dress did this.
>
>LTTE animals 
>and their foreign ambassadors 
>will do anything to get the sympathy
>
>
>REMEMBER DR. SRI S. SRI TARAN from UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO
>SAID SINHALESE WENT TO 
>JAFFNA AND RAPED THEIR
>MOTHERS IN FRONT OF THEIR FATHERS TO PRODUCE NEW GENERATION OF SINHALA-
>TAMILS.
>
>There were eye-witness reports that the
>LTTE animals personally supervised the "cremation" of the  
>knowledge bank of the people of Jaffna.  
>
>Father David, who  was one of the daily  users of 
>the library, couldn't bear the shock and died on the next day.  
>
>OH SURE
>tell us more about fater David and Hindu Tamils in Jaffna.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


hello, 
I am really sorry..but I couldnt see who you were bitterly expressing
yourself to.. I got a hazy idea that you don't like the LTTE. Is that
what the point of the above article was?

Genuinely puzzled.
-harsh
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North Carolina State University.                    hdeshma@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Sinhala script (Was: Distortion in history textbooks)
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:41:09 GMT

In article <BvCHIp.DH9@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>>the Sinhalese language uses the same script
>>as bengaali.
>>   Kathiravan
>
>No. Sinhalese script is not similar to Bengali.
>Sinhalese script is very similar to Kannada and Telugu scripts,
>which are Dravidian scripts of south India. Any Indian outside
>the southern region can not distinguish Sinhalese script from
>Telugu/kannada script. The script similarity has nothing to do with
>language similarities.

Interesting.  Maybe soc.culture.srilanka guys might be more knowledgeable...
Can someone send a copy over to their group(if it exists.. My rn says no-such-group).

I have heard srilankan tamils speak, and their accent sounds very much
like malayalam (am I wrong?) to listen to, though, I may say that their words
are mostly tamil (I guess so).

So, maybe so,meone can teach us about srilankan-indian connection...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: shiva@b30.ingr.com (Shiva Shivakumar)
Subject: Re: Tamil Literary Society
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:27:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.220644.26926@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
>
>	Re: kAnAsu's criticism of the thuklak essay, this may be heresy
>	but I will say it anyway: kAnAsu is wildly overrated as a critic.
>	His popularity in certain circles (I don't mean to disparage anyone
>	here) fits the adage "AlayillA Oorukku iluppaipoo sarkarai" to a
>	tee. Reading his essay reminded me of my own tendency at times
>	to vacuously criticise(;-). I mean he may have valid reasons to
>	criticise but to trivialise the main point of the essay - that
>	the mainstream writers engage in titillation - by dismissing the
>	important niche that these writers occupy in popular literature
>	is to run the risk of further isolating the public from the few
>	good writers that we have. On a related topic, Komal's interview 
>	

	Thank you, Nagarajan. I was not very pleased with kAnAsu's criticism.
Especially the irrelevent reference to Cho's anti-Indira stand. I was typing
in my follow up, but the system crashed and saved the netters ..)

There is a tendency to classify authors/works/readers into 'literary' and
'popular' (with a negative connotation). But we need to recognize the
grey area in between. While Kalki and Sujatha may not qualify as literary
authors, some of their works (or at least parts therein) do belong in
the literary arena. Just because something is popular does not make it
inferior. We have this same problem in Carnatic music.

But for a few stories by Jayakanthan, I have not read any of the works by
any of the 'literary' authors recommended in this net. I would like to. But
it wouldn't be possible for me if I had not read Kalkis, Sujathas, SAPs etc.
Be in literature, music or movies : Sujathas, KBalachandars and Balamuralis
provide a path to go from TamilvaNan to ThiJa, MGR to Satyajit Ray and
TMS to MDR. And we need to recognize and applaud their role.

>	Please understand that I am not criticising the poster (Pandian) for
>	all this. As a matter of fact my many thanks to him for translating
>	and transcribing.
>
>								- Nagarajan

Yes, Thank you SP.

Jagadisan Shivakumar


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: mohan@tnds05.tele.nokia.fi (Lavanya-Mohan)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: /user1/u1/mohan/.organization
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:22:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.125551.467@vaxsar.vassar.edu> nish@cv1.chem.purdue.edu (Nishantha I.) writes:


		   > at the Lanka Oberoi Hotel ! And finally this
		   > is the same Ranjan Wijeratne who ordered the Sri
		   > Lankan police to surrender without fighting the 
		   > Tigers believing the normal decorms of warfare
		   > expecting them to be treated as prisnors of war
		   > when the Peace talks broke down.(Incidently
		   > out of the more than 600 police personnel who
		   > surrendered to the LTTE only 40 are alive according
		   > to the International Red Cross others being 
		   > executed by the "Freedom fighters")

		   > Nishantha

I consider this incident as one of the worst, shameful and inhuman
acts performed by the LTTE. I really regret that it happened.

Unfortunately, due to the unwillingness (or inability?) of the SL
governments to find a just solution to the ethnic problem, more and
more moderate Tamils are forced to support the LTTE with all their
mistakes...


Mohan

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From: madabusv@cse.fau.edu (Vasudhevan Madabushi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Padmanabapuram museum?
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:27:11 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1992Sep28.134537.158@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> din@dasher.uucp (Dinesh Nettar) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.214133.9683@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
>> When I was browsing thro' some book on India, there was a referral about
>>the museum at Padmanabapuram. Where is this place located in Tamilnadu?
>>Is the museum known for something? If so, what? Was it patronized by some
>>king earlier?  Just curious. Anybody from that region?
>>Venkat
>
>Padmanabhapuram is a small town in Tamilnadu
>midway between Thiruvananthapuram
>(Trivandrum) and Kanyakumari.  I have visited the place 
>several years ago and there
>is a palace maintained by the Kerala govt.
 
 It is better known as 'THUCKALAI' now in Kanyakumari Dst. and 
 Padmanabhapuram was the erstwhile capital of the Travancore region.
 The last King to rule the place was Sree Chitra Thirunal (someone
 correct me if I am wrong), who passed away recently.
 It was swapped with some areas in the western ghats (of TN)
 during the formation of the states of Kerala and Tamil Nadu (formerly
 known as the Madras state)in 1957 (if I am right).

>The palace and museum are interesting but not particularly
>exciting.   It is probably worth a visit if you are
>in that region.  I vaguely remember a nominal fee
>being charged for admission.  The day and hour I went, there
>were about 10 visitors from Kerala.

 The palace is indeed worth visiting and the premises are very well
 maintained.  There is a one-day sight seeing trip organized by the
 KTDC from Trivandrum and it includes a visit to the Palace and Museum
 apart from other places.

>Dinesh Nettar

 Vasudhevan Madabushi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: Sundara Ramasamy, Thi. Ja. and Ki. Rajanarayanan
Keywords: authors, novels, short stories
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:14:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.190705.4902@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>
>
>PS: What do you think about neela. padhmanapan's writings?
                                           ^^^
>    esp. his novels? I did not see his name in this net, yet. 
>    I've read his novels "Thalaimuraigal" and "paLLikondapuram" 
>    (which came as a drama in AIR later). I concider "Thalaimuraigal"
                                                ^     
>    as one of the best novels I've read till now (along with
>    Thi.Ja's "ammA vanthAL" and sundara ramacami's "oru puLiya
                                            ^^^
>    maraththin kathai").
>    
>
>-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.

 Should'nt Vaidhyanathan be written as Vaithyanathan ?
          				 ^^^^
This is not nit-picking but an attempt to know Ramesh's reasons
for using 'p' instead of 'b' in Padhmanapan, 'c' instead of
's' in concider and 'c' instead of 's' in Ramacami.

J Anand
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2648 soc.culture.indian:33042
From: nish@cv1.chem.purdue.edu (Nishantha I.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: HUMAN RIGHTS IN "TE"
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:08:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

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Folks
	Since we here a lot about the utopian state of TE I
	thought I would post this on SCT.Please note
	that this is posted with the permission from the
	sources.
	
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From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: RIGHTS: U.S. Writers' group honors 

/* Written 12:16 am  Sep 12, 1992 by newsdesk in
cdp:ips.englibrary */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all
rights reserved.  Permission to re- print within 7 days of
original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: RIGHTS: U.S. Writers' group honors abducted Sri Lanka poet


new york, sep 9 (ips/gin) -- thiagarajah selvanaithy, a tamil poet
and actress abducted by rebel forces in sri lanka over a year ago,
was honored this week by the pen american center, the u.s.
affiliate of the international writers' association.

selvanaithy was named as pen's 1992 freedom-to-write award
recipient. the award is given annually to two writers who have
shown courage in exercising and defending freedom of expression,
and have suffered as a result.

selvanaithy, 28, was reportedly abducted by members of the tamil
tigers of tamil eelam (ltte) on aug 30 last year. there has since
been no news concerning her health or whereabouts.

selvanaithy's abduction occurred the day before she was due to
appear in a play about the role of women in the palestinian
intifada, according to a pen report. pen contends she was targeted
because of her outspoken criticism of the tigers and their methods
of dealing with dissent on the jaffna peninsula.

a third-year theatre and dramatic arts student at the university
of jaffna, selvanaithy was also a published poet, an actress and
an advocate for women's issues. in 1985, she was one of the
founders of a feminist magazine called ''tholi''.

in 1989, she helped to launch ''poorani'', a women's center in
jaffna which aimed to help female victims of the violent conflict
between the tamil minority, represented by the tamil tigers, and
the ruling national party based in the sinhalese majority.

the ''censorship news'', a british-based publication,  reported in
its aug. 30 issue that newspapers and journals are strictly
controlled in the ltte-dominated north and east sri lanka, and
that many tamils who have criticized or opposed the tigers'
tactics have been detained or executed.

the report also said that the detention of more than 20,000
civilians in the ltte-controlled areas has been documented.

''it is time for the tigers to demonstrate that peaceful, well-
intentioned criticism from within their own community is not only
tolerated, but encouraged'', pen's edmund keeley stated, calling
for selvanaithy's release.

earlier this year, pen named haitian journalist jean mario paul as
the first freedom-to-write award recipient for 1992. he was
released from prison two weeks later, the writers' group reported.
(end/ips/hr/js/wr)



Keywords:
From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Subject: Looking for these persons
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:39:16 GMT

 I tried everyother possibility to locate these persons but every effort
went futile.As a last resort, I'm posting here in the net. So, refrain 
from flaming.
Looking for these persons: Athiff Kabir, Suresh Baskaran, Ramkumar,
Jeyanthi Rani, Thulasi Kumar, Atul.C.Khanduri, Vipu Vivek and 
Narayanan. 
If you are person with one of these names or if you happen 
to know any such person, please read. Others hit n now.  Any info. like 
e-mail add. will be highly appreciated.

Athiff Kabir
^^^^^^^^^^^^  Product of Annamalai Univ. '88 Civil Engg. Must be somewhere
in US.
Suresh Baskaran
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Product of REC, Suratkal. '87 Electrical Engg. Must be
somewhere in US.
Ramkumar
^^^^^^^^ Product of Melmaruvattur Engg. College. '88 Mech. Engg. Must be
somewhere in US or Canada.
Jeyanthi Rani
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Product of REC, Tiruchy. '88 Electrical Engg. Must be
somewhere in US.
Thulasi Kumar
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Product of SVU,Tirupathi. '86 Civil Engg. Also product
of Anna Univ. '88 Transportation Engg. Must be somewhere in US.
Atul.C.Khanduri
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Lecturer, Dept.of Civil Engg, Univ. of Roorkee. Doing
higher studies in some university in Canada.
Vipu Vivek
^^^^^^^^^^ Product of IIT-D. '89 Civil Engg. Also product of Univ. of
Roorkee. '91 Water power Engg. Must be somewhere in US.
Narayanan Ranganathan
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is a long shot. He did some primary schooling 
in US. When his parents moved to India, he joined our school and studied 
with me from II std to V std in a Kinder Garten School in Chidambaram.
Then he moved to Delhi as his dad moved from Annamalai Univ to either
IIT-D or DCE. About two years, we were in touch. I think he is a US
citizen as he was born here and he must be somewhere in US. If you
could help me trace this guy out, I'd be eternally grateful.

Thanks in advance,
Venkat
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: kamala@npac.syr.edu (Kamala Anupindi)
Subject: SPICMACAY Syracuse: Carnatic Vocal concert on October 10th
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 11:15:28 EDT

                 The Society for the Promotion of
                Indian Classical Music And Culture
                   Amongst Youth (SPIC-MACAY)
                           SYRACUSE


                       Proudly Presents
               (as a part of their FALL-FEST '92)

		
                  Carnatic Vocal Recital By


            *****************************************
                S A V I T H R I    R A M A N A N D
            *****************************************

                        Accompanied by

                  Mysore Venkatesh  (Mridangam)
                   Mysore Satish     (Violin)


                             ON
                  Saturday, October 10, 1992  


                            AT
                          7:00 pm
                  Room 500, Hall of Languages
                Syracuse University, Syracuse.

               -----------------------------------
               A D M I S S I O N   I S   F R E E ! 
               -----------------------------------

        
                Details of the other events are:


        -----------------------------------------------------

        October 16th: "Aparajito" Movie by Satyajit Ray
                       7:00 pm, Rm 202, Hall of Languages, S.U
     
        ------------------------------------------------------

        October 23rd: NADASAWARAM Recital (Mambalam Shiva and troupe)
                      7:00 pm, Marshall Auditorium, SUNY-ESF.

        ------------------------------------------------------


        For further information contact:
        Kamala Anupindi (kamala@top.cis.syr.edu) 474-8420
        Paramesh Santanam (psantana@cat.syr.edu) 428-9441
        L.Chandar (lchandar@rodan.acs.syr.edu)   423-3507


****************************************************************
                        Directions
****************************************************************

From 81 N

- Take exit 17
- Left at the stop sign at the end of the ramp
- Right at second light onto Salina street
- Right on second/third light onto East Colvin
        (there is a post-office on the left just before the turn)
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign 
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center


From 81 S

- Take exit 17
- Right at end of ramp onto State Street
- Right at first light onto East Colvin
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center

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From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: What happened to  short stories and Tirukural?
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:22:38 GMT
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston

Subject says everything.
Looking forward the contribution from netters.

Thanks,
Venkat

PS: Mr.Ravindran at KSU and Mr.Rangaswamy at Georgia Tech.
      Whenever you guys find free time, can you post any
      such material ? Once again, thanks.

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From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: ***Privom Santhipom***
Date: 30 Sep 1992 19:32:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

Hi,

Have the last or conclusing episodes for the story been posted ? If so, can 
you mail me the rest of the story..I have the first 4 parts. 

Thanks,

peace

-rajesh



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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.karnataka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for these persons
Date: 1 Oct 1992 05:50:04 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> said:
:-  I tried everyother possibility to locate these persons but every effort
:- went futile.As a last resort, I'm posting here in the net. So, refrain 
:- from flaming.


	please do not think i am flaming, but have you tried the police?

	just a thought,

	- ravi

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