HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PageLiner and BME Patches
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 18:04:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In article <71509@cup.portal.com>, soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson
)
> writes:
>> Updates to Soft-Logik's PAGELiner and BME products have been released
>> and are available on the Soft-Logik BBS (314 894-0057), Portal
>> Communications and 2 ftp sites:
>>
>>   amiga.physik.unizh.ch in /amiga/new
>>   hubcap.clemson.edu    in /pub/amiga/incoming/patches
>>
>> These patches can be applied only to version 1.1.1 of these products
>> and update them to version 1.1.2.
>>
>> Kevin (soft-logik@cup.portal.com)
>
>Thanks for the patches, but there seems to be a problem.
>
>The PageLiner patch works fine, but the BME patch refuses to do anything as it
>says that BME is the wrong version. This is strange as when I run BME it
>says that it is V1.1.1. I tried it on a copy of the original as well as my
>working copy, with the same result. The only odd thing I could find was when I
>ran version over BME it said that it was v1.1
>
>I hope there is a fix for this as I was looking forward to the BME patch the
>most because I have had variable results using Trace.
>
>Have fun,
>
>Russell.
>
>Russell Tayler, Biology Dept, Uni of Newcastle, OZ
>          BIRJT@cc.newcastle.edu.au
>          "I've done all the dumb things" Paul Kelly and the Raiders
>

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Date: 17 Dec 92 09:45:24 EST
From: Michael Loader <76004.1676@CompuServe.COM>
To: <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
Subject: Re: PageLiner and BME Patches
Message-Id: <921217144523_76004.1676_CHN45-3@CompuServe.COM>

The uploaded patches are for the US version. Check the About box to
see if it is the UK or US version. (It'll say UK for UK, and nothing for
US.) We hope to have UK patches soon.

Shipping may have sent you a US PageLiner, so that patch may have run OK,
along with a UK BME. Stranger things have happened.

Michael
Soft-Logik


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From: koehler@secs.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: stats?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:46:55 GMT
Organization: UCSC Molecular Engineering Laboratory
Reply-To: koehler@secs.ucsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: moleng.ucsc.edu

Hi -are there public domain statistic programs that are ftp'able?
I would like simple stats (correlation....?) and graphing capabliities.
If I could get any sort of clustering, classifing or population analysis
goodies that would be great,
Thanks,
	Ryan (koehler@secs.ucsc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: thomas@ozcrwl (Hugh Thomas)
Subject: FinalCopyII: Entering TAB and bullet chars in AREXX
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:59:48 GMT

I'm trying to write a Final Copy II AREXX macro to implement a 
"bulleted list". I want the macro to do the following:

  1. invokes a predefined "style" with appropriate indent and tab settings
  2. begins a new paragraph
  3. enters the "bullet" character
  4. TABs to the next tab stop ready for (manual) text entry 

Steps 1 and 2 work fine. My problem is: how do I enter "special" characters
like bullet and TAB from an arrex macro? I can't find anything in the 
manual that says how to do it or even if it's possible. 
  Since the bullet character is entered via the keyboard as ALT+8 I tried

	AltDown
	Type 8
        AltUp

but that didn't work. 

Any suggestions welcome!


Hugh.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: comeau@csanta.attmail.com (Greg Comeau)
Subject: Re: Is SAS C V6 C++ compatible
Originator: comeau@well.sf.ca.us
Reply-To: comeau@csanta.attmail.com (Greg Comeau)
Organization: Comeau Computing
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:24:18 GMT

In article <BzGIpJ.HGy@unx.sas.com> walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec17.090233.26443@sunbim.be>, accs1@bagheera.mumath writes:
>I have a hard time understanding why people are SO CONCERNED that
>the C++ not use C as an intermediate step.  You will never see the
>C file produced unless you ask to; the process will be as seamless
>as using the C compiler itself.  Speed and debuggability are not
>dependent on the intermediate language used.  Choice of algorithms
>in the translator is more important than the fact that it uses
>C as an intermediate.

As this is how Comeau C++ 3.0 WIth Templates currently operates, I can
only wholeheartedly support your statements.  I disagree with none of it.

Does this mean native compilers are equal to translating compilers?
Almost.  There are differences, just like there are differences between
two native code producing compilers.  For instance, ok, yes, the C compiler
does need to be fired up and has to parse the output from Comeau C++ just
to get object code out, and that is slower than not having to parse it
just to do that, so if compiler speed is a concern that *might* be a con.
A pro to that same exact feature is that things like embedded systems 
programming becomes easier.  And so on.  In the long run you just end up with
an equal list of pros and cons, just like the normal pros and cons you get
when you compare any two compilers.

>Eventually the translator will be modified and will replace the C
>front-end completely, but not in the first version.  Keep in mind
>that some intermediate language will always be used, that's the
>way that compilers work. 

I should point out that although Comeau C++ has been around for so long on
so many platforms generating C, that we too will not stick with that only
forever.  This does not imply the C generating aspect will go away (we consider
that feature essential).  Neither does this disput anything I just said
above (if you think it does, by all means ask, and I will explain to anybody
so interested).

- Greg
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From: jh25s56@sycom.mi.org (Jim Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Print Shop" Clone
Distribution: na
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.974
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:35:07 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

In an article, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:\
BD>slhmz@cc.usu.edu writes:
BD>

BD>

BD>>Hi!
BD>

BD>>I am looking for a "The Print Shop" type program for my Amiga.
BD>>"The Print Shop" is a program that allows one to create greeting
BD>>cards, signs, banners, etc... and print them to a printer.
BD>

BD>There used to be a version of Printmaster Plus for the Amiga.  I have it
BD>somewhere, but haven't dug it out in ages.  Anyway, it was pretty much
BD>a clone of Print Shop with a few additions.
BD>

BD>>Thanks!
BD>>--
BD>>Faith Gibson
BD>-- 
BD>+ Rick __     + EMAIL:charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu +   //\          + /|\ It's
If you are seriously interested in Amiga PrintMaste, I have three disks full 
of icons I converted from my old C64 collection.. Several thousand images.
 
PrintMaster on the Amiga is identical to the version that was on the C64.

If you really   want color, go with Deluxe Print or get a DTP program.

Jim Harvey   |  "Ask not for whom the bell tolls
18538 Inkster|   and you will only pay 
Redford, Mi. |   station to station rates"
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From: trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Tom Reamer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: ProPage 3.0 help!!!
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:05:01 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

I don't know if this would go here, but I need MAJOR help with ProPage 3.0

I bought it direct from Gold Disk.  I am using a HP DeskJet 500C

When printing, the page is no where near centered, so I have to crank the whole
page to the left.  

If I print more than 1 page, the next page will space down about 1 inch or more
then start printing

Also, if I save AFTER I print, it will save messed up, with the wierd spacing.

Also, it has a habit of saving my work messed up at times.

What can be the problem?  The output is 100 times better than Pagestream, but I
can't use ProPage anymore because of this problem :(

Please help!  Thanx!
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Bars&Pipes and the Roland D50
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:54:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1gnfvdINNk1o
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu


   I broke down and bought a Roland D-50 yesterday. I'd like to know how
well Bars & Pipes Pro will support this keyboard, and also how readily
available patches are for it (and where the best place to locate them is).
It has MIDI in, out, and through.
   While I'm at it, does anyone have any recommendations for a $100 or less
external MIDI interface for the A2000 series (should also work with the
A4000)? I've no real specific requirements other than in, out, through.
Thanks. (Well, I guess a serial pass-through would be nice. <grin>)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Aquarium vs. KingFisher
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:38:15 GMT

walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann) writes:

>>3)  Option to continue search after reaching first/last fish if option
>>    2 is not added.

>I admit that I don't understand what you mean by that.

I believe he means that if you start a search at, say, Fish 543, and the
search fails, it might have failed simple because the program desired is
in the opposite direction.  Continuing the search with wrap-around would
find the desired program.

Of course, if you add the first/last fish option, then it's easy to just
go to the start and search forward, or go to the end and search
backward.

-- 
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From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Directory Opus
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:47:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1git58INN43c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <71773@cup.portal.com>

>I'm a little confused as well.  What more DO you want to know?  Have you
>tried writing/calling Inovatronics?
Joel

Joel, Harv, et al:

A couple of useful things to know that aren't in the ad are 1) is the
manual any better written than the old one was?  2) Are there any
annotated examples of how to program a gadget in the manual or on
disk?  If yes, are there just one or two, or are there enough to
give a novice a good feel for how and when to use all the options
available.

I'm sure that Directory Opus has a lot more power than I've ever used,
simply because I'm not very good at setting up the gadgets.

And no, I haven't called Inovatronics yet, either.

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: bath@hunnas (David Bath)
Subject: Re: Is SAS C V6 C++ compatible
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:00:11 GMT

>>SAS Institute will be coming out
>>with its own C++ in 1993 as well, and this C++ will require SAS/C
>>version 6.x.

This is good news, especially if it's as higher quality as SAS/C 6.1
Any details yet?  Like will it be C++ 2.1 or 3?  Fully integrated with
CPR?
From: d2hacker@dtek.chalmers.se (Magnus Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Menu editor?
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:25:23 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Is there a menu editor somewhere? Can you use GadToolsBox for this?

I'm asking because if there isn't one, I was thinking of writing one
myself. However, I am not to keen on inventing the wheel again, so
if you know of any program that you can use to edit menus in the same
way that you can use GadgetED to edit gadgets, please let me know.

Would somebody else be interested in such a program?
If so, I could be convinced to make my MenuED a bit more user-friendly
than I originally planned to.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: Looking for a debugger...
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:52:35 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1gbuhvINNl82@uwm.edu>, bloc1469@ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
|> Are there any debuggers available that support automatically watching
|> and debugging the processes and tasks spawned by a program?  I know of
|> three, CPR, PowerVisor, and MykesBug, and none seem to support it.
|> 
|> Prove me wrong.
|> 
|> Please.

OK, I will 8^)

If you set the "catch tasks" option, CPR will bring any spawned tasks
under debugger control.  You can then switch between tasks to do your
debugging.

|> Greg

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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: UChess.lha avail via ftp
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:26:16 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

I just uploaded a file to amiga.physik.unizh.ch and to hubcap.clemson.edu
called UChess.lha.  It is a powerful Chess program for the Amiga which
requires a 68020 or better microprocessor, 4M or more of FAST RAM,
and KS 2.04 or later.  Its preferred display is a 640x480x256 color
Productivity mode AGA screen, and has VERy nice AGA graphics.  It will
downscale the graphics to 640x400x16 colors on ECS machines, automatically.
The program is available via ftp at those 2 sites,
I put it in the /amiga/new area of physik and in the /pub/amiga/incoming/games
area of hubcap.clemson.edu.

Program requires 2.04 or later KS
requires 4M of FAST RAM (L version requires 10M)
requires 68020 or better microprocessor

Recommended:
KS 3.0 or later
AGA machine
68040 processor

The L version of the pgm plays somewhat stronger, but requires 10M of FAST RAM.

-Roger
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NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.applications:9501 comp.sys.amiga.misc:18686
From: mike@rahul.net (Mike Smithwick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Distant Suns 4.1 questions.
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:21:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: a2i network

In article <1992Dec16.194131.13435@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> bheil@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Brian Heil) writes:
>Just got Distant Suns 4.1 (great program Mike!), it runs in the background
>all the time now - just so I know where I stand in the Universe!

Thanks.

>But I do have some questions.  

Don't we all...

>I'm using a 3000T with an NEC 4D (16") monitor
>and I was wondering if there was anyway of convincing DS or any programs
>to use more of the screen (my Workbench is interlaced, approx. 700X800).

Nope, not this time. The screen sizes are hardcoded to support the standard
resolutions, both NTSC and PAL. I'll add it to my 5.0 wish list.

>The other problem relates to screen updates, 
[described problem with colormaps]

Sounds like you done found yourself a bug.

>
>-- 
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>brian-heil@uiowa.edu       |       //       Servo    |  The University of Iowa
>bheil@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu |    \X/         Rules    |   Hospitals and Clinics
>            Amigargnugen!  It's what makes a computer an Amiga. 

I'll take a look at it.

Mike


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From: heinz@edohwg.adsp.sub.org (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Looking for a debugger...
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:25:42 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <1gbuhvINNl82@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>Are there any debuggers available that support automatically watching
>and debugging the processes and tasks spawned by a program?  I know of
>three, CPR, PowerVisor, and MykesBug, and none seem to support it.
	^^^

CPR 6.0/6.1 has a "Catch new tasks" option.

>Greg

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From: tdenbo@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Denbo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: more WB2.1 questions
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:30:03 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

I can't figure out how to change the name of the system drawer to
"System2.1".  A rename gives me errors (looking for "System2.0" during
startup.  I found no references to "System2.0" in the startup-sequence or
user-startup, so it's somewhere else.  

I tried to reinstall but "System2.1" isn't on the drive.  Your wisdom here
will be appreciated!

Also had a scare when I noticed kickstart in devs:, I moved it out and of
course it couldn't find kickstart on power up.  Had to boot from my 2.0
kickstart on floppy.  Whew!  KIDS DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME!!

The manual ought to mention kickstart as normal in devs:, although it
probably only is for use old A3000 owners with the older ROMS.

Tom Denbo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: robertr@odie.cs.mun.ca (Robert Randell)
Subject: Help with PasTeX 1.3
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:54:43 GMT

Hi.

I am looking for help getting PasTeX 1.3 up and running. I have the entire
package installed on my hard drive, but I really have no idea how to get the
thing to work. The docs are all TeX files, and when I double click on their
icons, I just get an error message "can't find default format file".

Ideally, I would like someone to give me instructions on how to set up the
program so that I can run LaTeX on a file in the form "latex <filename>".
Also, of course, I would like to be able to process those TeX files
containing the English docs.

Also, I notice that there is no executable called 'tex' in 'bin', but 2
programs called 'initex' and 'virtex'. What's the deal? 

Please excuse my ignorance. Up to this point, I've only been using LaTeX
on my University's system. I no nothing about TeX proper.

Thanks for any help.

- Robert Randell 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Subject: Pictures in SuperBase Pro
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:26:58 GMT


   I'm trying to get a form to display pictures using Superbase Pro. I've set
up my database, defining 4-bit hires pictures as external files. I've created
a simple form to display the pictures. I can display them, but they all use
the "default" palette from the forms designer.

   1. Is there any way to "import" the palette from my pictures into the
forms designer? (all the pictures have the same palette). I realize that
SBPro has only a 3-bit palette, but there must be a "2>1" algorithm that
would do it.

   2. (Better solution!) is there a way to get SBPro to use the picture's
palette when displaying the picture? This way, all the pictures wouldn't have
to have the same palette.

   Help! Thanks in advance.

--

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: birjt@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: PageLiner and BME Patches
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:10:01 GMT

In article <71509@cup.portal.com>, soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
> Updates to Soft-Logik's PAGELiner and BME products have been released
> and are available on the Soft-Logik BBS (314 894-0057), Portal
> Communications and 2 ftp sites:
>  
>   amiga.physik.unizh.ch in /amiga/new
>   hubcap.clemson.edu    in /pub/amiga/incoming/patches
> 
> These patches can be applied only to version 1.1.1 of these products
> and update them to version 1.1.2.
> 
> Kevin (soft-logik@cup.portal.com)

Thanks for the patches, but there seems to be a problem.

The PageLiner patch works fine, but the BME patch refuses to do anything as it 
says that BME is the wrong version. This is strange as when I run BME it 
says that it is V1.1.1. I tried it on a copy of the original as well as my
working copy, with the same result. The only odd thing I could find was when I
ran version over BME it said that it was v1.1

I hope there is a fix for this as I was looking forward to the BME patch the
most because I have had variable results using Trace.

Have fun,

Russell.

Russell Tayler, Biology Dept, Uni of Newcastle, OZ 
          BIRJT@cc.newcastle.edu.au
          "I've done all the dumb things" Paul Kelly and the Raiders

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: DICE C
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:44:07 GMT

I was wondering where can I buy DICE C? How much is it? Is it A4000 &
A1200 compatible? Is it UNIX C compatible? How easy to program with it?
Is it good for C starter?