HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Ban FIDONet? (flameproof)
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:26:25 GMT
	<1992Aug30.114820.2997@actrix.gen.nz>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se

> Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

   > All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and make it 
   > look like Palestinians are wrong when in fact the jews are doing 
   > [etc etc etc]

   That's very interesting.  I'm sure we'd all love to hear more on the
   subject.  But not here, thanks.

Can't you tell someone who forgot to log out and has had a very
bad taste "joke" played on him.

Hmm, thinking, this message, as a lot of other noise, has come
from FIDO-net. Is it time for that net to become the paria of
the electronic communications community? :-)/2

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069
White, Literate, Employed, Higher-Educated, Male, Straight and Not Poor.
I must be a bad guy.
From: bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do you zap PRAM under Sys7?
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:44:08 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's College of Maryland
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6C3A608AC0301D2@williams.smcm.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:44:40 GMT

In article <1736@grivel.une.edu.au> Martin Levins,
mlevins@metz.une.edu.au writes:
>From article <22521@sybase.sybase.com>, by bill@kirkwood.sybase.com
(Bill McFarland):
>> What is parameter RAM, why would one "zap" it (what does "zap" mean?),
how
>> do you know if you need to zap it?
>
>Paramter RAM holds all those things that you don't want to reset every
>time your Mac gets turned on - time, date etc (and a host of other stuff)
>
>To reset: Hold Command-Option -p-r


Yes, but WHY would I zap the PRAM?  I've only heard of needing to do it
if there are bizarre things going on (most recently posted of which is
the "wecome to Mac" mac icon not showing up in color).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dnwhiteh@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE N WHITEHURST)
Subject: WISH LIST (DO THESE EXIST?)
Originator: dnwhiteh@c00486-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dnwhiteh@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE N WHITEHURST)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:20:55 GMT


hi...

I'm wondering if the following utilites (or anything close to 'em) exist
or are being planned into the next system release...this is basically
a wish list but hopefully santa will come early this year and tell me
"go look in blah/blah/blah on sumex for that one"

I'm running system 7.0 + tune up and using beheirarch (sp?) on a Mac II.

WISH 1: I'd like to be able to move a file from an open window to a particular
sub-folder by just dragging the file over to the hard-disk icon (or any folder
on the desktop)and having a menu of all the sub-folders pop up similar to the
way beheirarch pops up menus and submenus for folders & nested folders under
the apple menu...this way..instead of opening up the window for the hard-disk
and the several layers down using a non-icon view, the menu would just pop up
and I could bury the file in the harddisk from the desktop....

??? DOES THIS FEATURE ALREADY EXIST SOMEWHERE ???

WISH 2: Regarding the new drag and drop feature used to open files from the
application you drag them to....it seems that my Mac will only recgonize
files created by the application you drag them to...for example...if I drag
a generic document (which MS Word CAN open from its file menu when viewing
all readable files) to the Word application icon it won't highlight and I
can't open it this way...but it works great if I drag a Word file to the Word
application....is there a way to force Word to open the generic document?

okay I know this one is kinda picky but it would be a nifty convience if there
was a way..


that's it....thanks for any help you can give and if you're interested in
the same kinda utils....write me and I'll send ya a copy of what I get..

					-_- duane

ain't the net great?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: srb@aretha.jax.org (Susan Dewey)
Subject: Re: Aliases--- Getting to the source
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: The Jackson Laboratory
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:38:37 GMT

In article <armand-280892221058@stc201.comm.mot.com>, armand@comm.mot.com
(Arman Dolikian) wrote:
> I have a set of files that I regularly copy onto a floppy disk to 
> shuttle between home and work.  The files are rightfully stored in 
> different directories on my disk.   

This might be overly simple, but why not put the original files in one
folder
and the aliases in the different directories on your disk?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kevin@kosman.uucp (Kevin O'Gorman)
Subject: Help with desktop, MS-Word crashes
Organization: Vital Software Services, Oxnard, CA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:02:50 GMT

I've just started getting a new sort of problem with software I've been running
forever.

Every day or so when I start up Microsoft Word (4.00B), I get the first dialog
box, showing the version, then the system reports that the application
"unknown" has quit with an error of type 1.

If I rebuild the desktop, Word will start and function normally.  It may do so
several times, but in a day or so I'll have to rebuild again.

Any idea why this may be happening?  I've tried removing some applications so
the desktop might be less cluttered, but that's no help.  I have lots of tools
for looking at things, but no real idea what to look for.

This is on a IIfx running 7.1 (no tuneup), 4MB RAM, 80MB hard disk.
-- 
Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com )
voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA  93035
Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: s442070@nexus.yorku.ca (Tomas Hansson)
Subject: System 6.0.5 WANTED!
Originator: s442070@nexus.yorku.ca
Keywords: system, 6.0.5
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:58:37 GMT

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of system 6.0.5?
I know this is a rather silly question but I have the following problem:
We have a Mac Plus currently running 6.0.4 and booting from a 800k
floppy!! Yes, we do have a harddrive for it but it refuses to boot from it.

We want to run SCSI-ethernet connection on it but the software requires
system 6.0.5 or higher. I tried to install 6.0.7 but it wouldn't fit on
an 800k floppy even with *everything* stripped out of it.

We now have two alternatives:
a) Upgrade the harddrive so we can boot from it.
b) Get a system that will fit on a 800k floppy.

So again, if anyone knows the best way to fix the above problem, please
drop me a note.

Thanx,


                                Tomas Hansson
				Info Design Corporation
				tomas@idc.com or s442070@nexus.yorku.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens)
Subject: Re: LC sound problem (was IIsi)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:17:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.191610.1378@gvl.unisys.com>, dave@prc.unisys.com
(David Lee Matuszek) wrote:
> 
> In article <92224.205851BGD1@psuvm.psu.edu> BGD1@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> >Sometimes my Mac IIsi becomes silent, regardless of the program that's
> >running--it happens even if the finder is the only "appl." running.  Less
> >frequently, my Mac acts as if the sound control panel were set on 0 (i.e.,
> >the menu bar flashes).  Resetting the volume to LOUD (6-7) and then back
> >down to 2 were I keep it solves the problem for a while.  I've checked for
> >viruses.  It's running system 7.0 plus TuneUp.  Any ideas?  thanks.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Time to post this again.  [I revised it slightly to incorporate
> suggestions from other net folk.  Thanks, everybody.]  This needs to
> go in a FAQ list somewhere.
> 
> It is a well-known phenomenon that the sound vanishes from time to
> time on the Mac IIsi.  This happens under both System 6.07, System
> 7.0, and System 7.01.  It occurs with or without System 7 Tune Up
> 1.1.1, and presumably with earlier versions of Tune Up as well. It has
> also been known to happen on the LC, but seems to be less common
> there.
> 
> My experience is that the problem only occurs at lower sound levels (4
> and under).  At levels 6 and 7, the problem never occurs.  Also, as
> far as I know, the problem never occurs with external speakers.  I'd
> be glad to hear from anyone whose experience is not consistent with
> this.
> 
> The three main theories are:
> 
> (1) Corrosion build-up on the speaker contacts.
> (2) Erroneous use of the sound manager by applications.
> (3) A persistent bug in the operating system.

Variation on a theme:

My LC has occasionally had problems with sound:

  - Startup sound is fine (too loud for my taste)
  - Once up and running, beep sounds are silent or barely audible (much
softer
    than the "1" setting on the control panel. The menu bar never flashes.
  - Setting the sound to max volume and back down usually fixes it (not
    always). Other times a restart fixes it.

I ruled out speaker contacts because the startup sound is always there. I
was
looking for an init conflict, but couldn't reproduce the problem
consistently
enough to get very far. 

Chris Ellens
ellens@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland)
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: Ifi, University of Trondheim / AVH
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 07:09:08 GMT

Windows NT is supposed to be a full OS without the DOS part of Windows.
NT is supposed to be 32 bit OS with pre-emptive multitasking. It will need
a lot of hardware to run (80486, 8-16 MB RAM and at least 200 MB HD). 
It is not for privat use although I expect that a lot of people will buy it. 
I think Microsoft will be selling three OS's, DOS for large corporations
with a lot of DOS software, Windows for the home market and NT for
power users.
I think you can forget the assumption that NT will run on PC's at $1300.

To me there are two problems with Windows, the technical part (problem
of making really compatible hardware,  assembling a functional system,
installing sotware etc) and the GUI-problem. Windows is, as I see it,
a "glorified menusystem". Will Microsoft change this in NT? How will
the customers like the idea that they will need to learn a new GUI when
they move from Windows to NT? I think that Microsoft will have to keep the GUI
of Windows, which is V E R Y bad!

Also - to get good enough performance on NT you will need to buy new hardware
(again). 
So somebody who bought a new machine in 1988 (pre-Windows) would
have bought a '286, in '90 he had to buy a new machine to run Windows and
now he will have to buy a new machine to run NT.

We are heading for interesting times! One thing that seems to quite clear
though is that Apple will still be there, and the Mac still has a role to play.
After all, a clone with Windows cannot do anything that the Mac couldn't
do a long time ago , MPC (Multimedia PC) is a shadow of an ordinary Mac, and
I think that NT will continue this trend. A copy can never be better than the
original!
The thing NT has that System 7 hasn't is, as far as I can see, pre-emptive
multitasking, but do you really need it (some do, most don't).


Terje Rydland
From: jle@world.std.com (Joe M Leonard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7 and a Mac IIci
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:55:54 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Two parter:

1) What is the latest version of system 7 - the upgrade kit Apple
shipped be yesterday has 7.0.  I've seen/used 7.0.1 dated April 1991,
and there was a patch dish in the upgrade kit that was dated in 1992.
Has nothing been done since then - Apple mentioned a 7.1 in beta, but
they had no info...

2a) How can the IIci run faster - would a video card (thus offloading
the 68030) help, or would it require an accelerated card?

2b) Would adding memory (5->8Mb) or rearranging the memory help (where
the video ram resides)?

2c) I assume adding a cache card will help - does the size matter
(32, 64 or 128 Kb).  In the workstation world, the larger the better,
but for a Mac??

PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY, as I don't normally read this bboard.  It's just
that I seek the knowledge of the experts on this stuff (and the local
service jocks don't seem all that sharp)

Joe Leonard
jle@world.std.com
From: marcoc@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (GUEST Marco Calamari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Ram disk on SE/30
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:53:56 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

I own an SE/30 with 8 Mb RAM and system 7.0.1 + Tuner 1.1.1

Using Mode32 I'm able to access 128 Mb memory and use 32-bit
 addressing without any problem.

I've noticed that I cannot see the controls for RAM disk in
"Memory" control panel.

The same thing happens on an IIfx without Mode32.

Those controls only shows on Quadras.

Is this regular ? How I can use a Ram disk on my SE/30 ?

Suggestions and/or PDS or shareware welcomed. Thanks a lot.    Marco

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From: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Prolog wanted for the Mac
Date: 1 Sep 1992 17:02:40 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: charon.think.com

In article <87589@netnews.upenn.edu> breck@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Breck Baldwin) writes:
>Would folks be kind enough to reccomend decent prologs for the Mac.
>MacConnections says there are none currently available, but I hope
>that they are just misinformed.

From the comp.lang.prolog FAQ:

2. Where can I get a public-domain, free Prolog for (the IBM PC,
   the Mac, Unix)?

     The following are anonymous-FTP sites for free Prologs
which are either in the public domain or are "copy-lefted"
(permitted to be copied with some restrictions on commercial use).

     (Please note that for extensive development work, users
will probably want a robust interpreter or compiler with good
debugging facilities and a standard syntax, among other things.
While public-domain systems are a valuable service to the
community, they do not necessarily have all these things, and
users should weigh carefully what they want to do against the
capabilities and costs of the available systems.)

For the IBM PC:
- BinProlog 1.39, anonymous FTP from clement.info.umoncton.ca
  (139.103.16.2), directory BinProlog.  Compiler for IBM PC 386.
  E-mail: tarau@info.umoncton.ca (Paul Tarau).
- Anonymous FTP from aisun1.ai.uga.edu, directory ai.prolog;
  download "Contents" first.  Two systems.
  E-mail: mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu (Michael Covington).
- SWI Prolog, anonymous FTP from swi.psy.uva.nl, file
  "pub/pl-1.6.1.tar.Z"; or from ftp.th-darmstadt.de
  (130.83.22.253), directory pub/programming/languages/prolog.
  Portable, copy-lefted.

For the Apple Macintosh:
- Anonymous FTP from aisun1.ai.uga.edu, directory ai.prolog;
  download "Contents" first.
  E-mail: mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu (Michael Covington).
- Open Prolog, anonymous FTP from grattan.cs.tcd.ie (or
  134.226.32.15), directory languages/open-prolog.  In
  binhex/stuffit form.
  E-mail: brady@cs.tcd.ie (Michael Brady).

For Unix systems:
- BinProlog 1.39, anonymous FTP from clement.info.umoncton.ca
  (139.103.16.2), directory BinProlog.  Compiler for SPARC and Sun/3.
  E-mail: tarau@info.umoncton.ca (Paul Tarau).
- SWI Prolog, anonymous FTP from swi.psy.uva.nl, file
  "pub/pl-1.6.1.tar.Z"; or from ftp.th-darmstadt.de
  (130.83.22.253), directory pub/programming/languages/prolog.
  Portable, copy-lefted.
- SB-Prolog, anonymous FTP from cs.arizona.edu, directory
  "sbprolog/v3".  Version 3.  Copy-lefted.
- Modular SB-Prolog (= SB-Prolog version 3.1 plus modules),
  anonymous FTP from ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk (129.215.160.5), file
  pub/dts/mod-prolog.tar.Z .  Interpreter for SPARC.
  E-mail: mprolog@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Brian Paxton).
-- 
Ephraim Vishniac    ephraim@think.com   ThinkingCorp@applelink.apple.com
 Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142
        One of the flaws in the anarchic bopper society was
        the ease with which such crazed rumors could spread.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rhorn@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Problem booting sys 7 on Classic (sad mac 0000000f/00000063)
Originator: rhorn@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:58:17 GMT

Hi!

I recently reformatted the internal hard drive of my Classic 4/40
with HD SetUp from the DiskTools disk with System 7,
and installed System 7.0 (by dragging copying it from my external
hard drive), but it refuses to use the internal hd as a startup 
volume.

It shows a happy mac, nothing, a happy mac, and a sad mac with the
sad mac code 000000F over 00000063. I can't find this sad mac code
documented anywhere and was just curious as to what it means.

It boots fine with system 6.0.7 off the same drive, and if I copy the
system 7 from the internal to the external, it can boot off the 
external drive with no problem.

any ideas?

thanks,
Robb

-- 
---
rhorn@ic.sunysb.edu           Never choose a college because it has a duckpond.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nick@pixel.rm.fccc.edu (Nick Kokkos)
Subject: QuickTime movie recorders
Organization: The Fox Chase Cancer Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:36:22 GMT

Hello everyone! I was wondering if you can help us out with a small problem
we have with QuickTime. We have all the appropriate hardware for capturing
live video and the softare for editing a movie but I don't have a QuickTime
recording program! Actually, we have : a video board for capturing images from
a video source (we got the QuickTime digitizing component for that card few
days ago) and we also have MacroMind Director 3.1 which can be used for editing,
saving e.t.c quicktime movies. Now, we would like to purchase a program that
can capture and save quicktime movies. Do have anything good to recommend?
We have heard about JimTV(Apple), MovieRecorder(Apple), and VideoShop. Are these
any good? Actually we do not need something very expensive. We just need something
that can do a good job.
I would appreciate if someone could help us out. Thanks in advance!!

nick@pixel.rm.fccc.edu
From: markley@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Jim Markley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Postscript & Sys 7.0
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:43:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Thanks to all who replied to my previous request for informatin about who to
print postscript files to my laserwriter, under system 7. I was able to solve
the problem with the help of a couple of differnet people.

I got a program called SendPS, which is an Adobe product. (it is shareware or
freeware, I dont remember which right now). To use this program, however,  you
must move the LaserWriter extension out of the extensions folder and leave it
in the system folder. As I am not a serious MAC user yet I do not understand
all the reasons why this is necessary, but it works.

Thanks to all who offered help.

-Jim

*******************************************************************************
Jim Markley
graduate student in computer and information science
markley@grad1.cis.upenn.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:11409 comp.sys.mac.misc:15657
From: dubois@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: comp.sys.mac.powerbook
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:38:56 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Aug27.054112.9182@kth.se>, krona@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Kjell Krona) writes:
> 
> I agree that the PowerBooks would need a group of their own, since they
> have some special requirements both for hardware and software which is
> not applicable to other Macs. Most other Mac models are quite similar to
> each other, differing only in speed and color support.

I agree as well and fully support the creation of such a group.  I look forward
to the initiation of a formal RFD/CFV.  (I travel too much to be able to 
volunteer my services for that, though, unfortunately.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven Grenander)
Subject: Re: WARNING !
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:55:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.011957.20763@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) writes:
> 
> In <Btps08.12s@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu writes:
> 
> > When I spoke to Third Wave when looking into expansion options
.........
> I've dealt with the folks at Third Wave several times, and they've
.........
> I find it -extremely- hard to believe that Second Wave said that the
.........

Seems like there is a lot of confusion about 3rd vs. 2nd wave !

Are they two different companies as has been suggested, if so it seems as if
one company may be getting smeared by the reputation of the other. If not,
then there is indeed some miscommunication.

As a potentially "good" company may be damaged it would probably be a good
idea to really make sure that the name is correct before posting (not a flame,
just a suggestion).

-Sven

Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 09:03:05 -0400 
From: Robert Agustin <ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
	<1992Sep2.034018.933@tamsun.tamu.edu>

On 02-Sep-92 in Re: Windows NT = Death of t..
user Daryl Biberdorf@tamsun.t writes:
>NT also has very stiff hardware requirements.  A good 16 MB of RAM
>and a 200 MB hard disk looks like a fairly minimal configuration.
>This won't catch on on the desktop for at least another 2-3 years.

Whoa!  If this is true, it's over double my current Mac configuration
(IIci 8/80) which I'm living quite comfortably in.  And many PC
advocates (that I know of) complain about how the Mac eats up too much
memory and HD space!

Robert
From: mpinkert@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Snowden )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: test
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:51:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

testing....sorry

mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Is it possible to use System 6.08 on a Classic II
From: craddock@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Craddock)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:18:53 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

bbesler@ouchem.chem.oakland.edu (Brent H. Besler) writes:

>Is it possible to run a Classic II on System 6.08?  Alot of old but
>usefeul software won't run under System 7, plus it is annoyingly slow
>compared to 6.08.  I have tried taking 7 off of the HD and just about
>every possible variation to get 6.08 running on it, but it always comes
>back with a message at bootup saying it needs a newer system.

Yes it is. But you need a special version release 6.0.8L. This version
has been written for the classic II and PB 100. It is supported by apple
but is hard to get hold of. It is mainly intended for the education
market. We have a lab with some classic II's running 6.0.8L without any 
problems.

I suggest you try apple and I wish you luck. 
-- 
Mark Craddock                      |  'University kills intellect by
Department of Engineering Science  |     degrees'   Andrew Davies
University of Auckland             |
New Zealand                        |   craddock@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz         
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