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From: waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Violent Femmes
Date: 12 Apr 92 09:02:09 GMT


In article <73523@netnews.upenn.edu>, mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Mary K O'Hagin) writes:>> 
>  The actual subject of this is "Violent Femmes".  To date, I have not 
> herd (heard)) an album from the avove (avXX above)) mentioned group that 
> has matched their original self titled album.  "Add it up" is a memoralbe 
> (memorable)) song.  It must be heard repeatedly to appreciate it in full.

My personal favourite is the "Hallowed Ground" album. The track I like most
is "Country Death Song" about a father who pushes his little daughter in a
well :-)

Anyhone like to post a complete discography of them? I want to know if my
collection is complete.

--- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam <waal@cwi.nl> ---
From: etamuzs1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jesus Lizard Advice?
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:35:34 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <Idt6BA_00Uh7Q343tH@andrew.cmu.edu> mf2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc Kevin
Fischer) writes:
>Jesus Lizard can do no wrong. Having seen them live 5 times and listened
>to their two albums and EP on many many occassions , I have nothing but
>admiration for these 4 very ugly fellows. Everything on vinyl is great
>but their debut LP is probably their best. 
>

Debut EP, my friend. Pure came first. It was included with Head on the same CD,
though. Well, to the original poster, Nub is a fine song, somewhat typical of
them, but most of their stuff is as good or better. I myself would recommend
the newer album, Goat, over the older one, Head, but their Pure EP (available
on Head CD, as I mentioned earlier) is best. Nub is on Goat, so take your pick.
Get both. The Jesus Lizard can do no wrong. =)

Go see them live too. I've only seen them twice (the first time I was on
codeine at the time...I had my wisdom teeth pulled earlier in the day...see?
That's what they're worth live), (5 times is very impressive, you from
Chicago?) They sound quite different recorded once you've seen 5 foot tall
(maybe) David Yow throw himself around the stage and off the stage while
screaming. Great fun.

Edis
From: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu (Charlie's enormous mouth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: TRIP SHAKESPEARE
Date: 14 Apr 1992 22:32:13 UTC
Reply-To: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA

luebke5317@iscsvax.uni.edu (Phil Luebke) screams:

>G       R       E       A       T       
>        
>                                        B       A       N       D       !
>
>(what else is there to say?)

How about telling us WHY they are a "GREAT BAND?"  How about telling us what
they SOUND LIKE?  What they've done that's ORIGINAL or CREATIVE?

If every time someone on the net said "Yeh boy that's a GREAT BAND!" I ran out
and bought a CD of this supposed GREAT BAND, I'd be penniless, and would
probably have only come up with a couple bands I actually liked.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Thorn / mthorn@madvax.uop.edu 
"When humans were young, they were pushed around in strollers.  When they were
old, they were pushed around in wheelchairs.  In between, they were just pushed
around." -- Tom Robbins
From: handa@alhanda.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Handa)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Wire
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:53:55 GMT
Reply-To: handa@alhanda.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Handa)
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhanda.ebay.sun.com

Hello,

I had posted a while back about getting a bio about Wire.  No replies
(no flames either, so it wasn't because anyone thought it was a dumb
request) came in with the info. 

Could someone do one of two things:

1.  Refer me to a source of information about Wire.

2.  Send me a bit on what you do know (don't worry about discography
    stuff-just historical bits), and I will compile those replies 
    with some independent research into a larger piece.  I`ll then 
    send the larger article to anyone who wants one.

Thanks, 

Al Handa 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rwyatt@niji.claremont.edu (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:26:00 GMT

Would someone PLEASE put Trent Reznor out of OUR misery !!!!

When NIN first appeared on the scene three or fours years ago, they  
were great.  I remember seeing them in a half-empty club with Meat  
Beat Manifesto, and they kicked ass.  Now what the hell is going on  
?!!!  Trent has become the industrial god of all the teeny-boppers.   
Spin featured him as the "founder of industrial music".  What the  
hell ?!!!!  Has anyone out there heard of Skinny Puppy or Ministry ?   
Throbbing Gristle ?  Trent is hardly the founder of anything !!!   
Maybe he sold the most albums, but that hardly makes him worth a  
cover article !!!  

And as far as a new album goes, he's toured 5 or 6 times with this  
one and has released nothing new but a few remixes and the "Get Down,  
Make Love" single.  Big F*cking Deal !!!!  Trent, face it, you're  
nothing more then a "One Hit Wonder" who has come to be idolized by  
all the mindless teeny boppers who think Nevermind is Nirvana's first  
album !!!!
From: a10j102@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Residents
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:23:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Apr9.192324.14398
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Apr9.151214.7636@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cpaulse@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chris D Paulse) writes:
>Can anyoune make any reccomendations of a good CD by  the Residents to buy?
>I remember hearing one of their records in a bar, and I liked it quite a bit.

I'd recommend getting "Heaven?" and "Hell!", which are published by
RykoDisc, if you can find them.  They are two compilation discs (one of
"beautiful" music, the other of "ugly" music), and they span the
Residents' career from 1972 to about 1983.  Failing those, I might
suggest "The Commercial Album" or "DuckStab" as being the most
'accessible' Residents albums and a good starting point.

>Apparently nobody knows who is in the band.  Perchance someone on usenet knows
>who they are? :-)

They've never been unmasked.  One theory I've heard is that the lead
singer is Mike Nesmith.  Another rumor has it that George Harrison
admitted to being a Resident in an interview.  But nobody knows for
sure.

Incidentally, what kind of bar were you in that played the Residents??
:-)

-Matt
-- 
Matt Kimmel            University of Massachusetts              Amherst, MA

Internet: a10j102@titan.ucc.umass.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sbb1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shay B. Berthelson)
Subject: Re: Chagall Guevara.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:32:15 GMT


>>maybe the name is a combination of {Marc} Chagall and {Che} Guevara.

>Actually, I'm surprised that no-one picked up on this. Chagall is from
>Jayak Cha-Ga-Ll'wynej-ha-ana, the original name of a gentleman who was
>later known as Jack Rubenstein, and subsequently Jack Ruby (obviously, of JFK
>fame). I believe the original name was a combination of a Welch name (mother's
>side) and a North African (Morroccan?) name (father's side). Jayak was not
>only involved in the whole JFK affair, but was also quite involved in the
>North-Africanist Movement during the late 50s (organizations such as WODNIW).

>Guevara is from Casa Guevara, a house in Mexico City, where Leon Trotsky
>(born Leonid Berentstein) was murdered by Stalinist agents. The band Trotsky
>Icepick also got their name from this event, as he was killed by having an
>icepick stuck into his ear.

>In any case, the whole point of the name Chagall Guevara is to point out the
>similarities in the careers of these two men, Ruby and Trotsky. One might
>also note that they both had names ending in "stein" at one point in their
>respective lives. Stein is, of course, German for stone or rock. Rubenstein
>means, literally, ruby, whereas Berentstein means amber, as in the fossilized
>resin from ancient European forests.


>Samuel Goldstein accepts sole responsibility for the above article

The article that this is in response to I originally wrote.  I am curious
as to if all of the above mentioned stuff, is a valid answer for where
the name chagall guevara comes from.  Just curious as to if the author 
knows this to be fact.  Do you know anything about the group and if
so why would they choose this reasoning to name their band what they did?

Shay B.
From: pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Pablo Kang)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Robert Smith = Sandman??? + need Nassau tickets
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:05:19 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <92106.102253TXG108@psuvm.psu.edu> TXG108@psuvm.psu.edu (Tina Goetzl) writes:
>
>    Is anyone familiar with the DC comic "SANDMAN"?  If so, do you find
>a striking resemblence between Dream and our hero Robert Smith???  In one
>of the issues, there is the "Boy's Don't Cry" poster on one of the walls
>which was a nice touch I thought.  I think Dream and Rob both share that
>quality of being appealingly somber.
>                                                            tina

  Well, now that you mention it, you're right...they do resemble each other.:-)

  By the way, anyone have any Cure tickets for Nassau (or anywhere near New
  York City, if they're planning another stop)? I need two tickets...thanks. :)

Pablo 

  pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: sgoldste@nunki.usc.edu (Fogbound Child)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Chagall Guevara.
Date: 10 Apr 1992 14:19:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

tisu@quads.uchicago.edu (Seth Tisue) writes:

>In article <sbb1.702862335@Ra.MsState.Edu> sbb1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shay B. Berthelson) writes:

>>The article that this is in response to I originally wrote.  I am curious
>>as to if all of the above mentioned stuff, is a valid answer for where
>>the name chagall guevara comes from.  Just curious as to if the author 
>>knows this to be fact.  Do you know anything about the group and if
>>so why would they choose this reasoning to name their band what they did?

>Yes, the facts the previous message gave are accurate, with one
>minor exception: it's not "Jayak Cha-Ga-Ll'wynej-ha-ana", it's
>"Jayak Cha-Ga-Llwy'jen-ha-ana".  I think it's important these sorts
>of details be kept straight.

>-- 
>-- Seth Tisue (tisu@midway.uchicago.edu)
>-- U.S. mail: c/o Plaster Cramp Press, P.O. Box 5975, Chicago IL 60680
>"May the mystery lettered on the tigers die with me."


Thank you. I stand corrected. Other than the abovementioned error, *every*
word of the posting was correct. I understand the group acquired its name
after a long discussion on conspiracy theory.
-- 
Samuel Goldstein accepts sole responsibility for the above article.
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From: wongb@thor.EE.McGill.CA (Berton Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Name that tune...
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:07:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: thunder.1992Apr15.210720.25051
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University

In article <1992Apr13.033517.4633@acsu.buffalo.edu> swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking to find the name of an artist/song.
>
>It's a woman, singing a somewhat folkish (Gaelic-sounding?) tune 
>that has "modern sounding" rock-n-roll style production.  It is 
>probably a new (or somewhat recent) release, as it was played on 
>[Toronto's alternative rock station] CFNY's "modern music report".
>
>The vocalist sounds very slightly like Sarah McLaughlin (sp?) but
>the music is less ethereal than the stuff I've heard by her.  It 
>also has a synthesized sitar-like sound in the mix.
>
>The chorus has the following phrase in it:
>
>	"I can see the lights in the distance,
>	 <something something something> "  :-)
>
>Any ideas about who this is, and what song?  I'd really like to get this,
>but the DJ didn't announce it.
>
>Thanks,
>-- 
>Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
>swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC

I'm pretty sure that it's Loreena McKennit. That phrase is from All Souls Night
which is from her most recent album _The_Visit_. According to the new releases
list on r.m.misc it was just released yesterday in the US. I'm a new fan of her
music so I don't really know much about her yet. I did see some posts about
her in rec.music.folk...

Berton Wong
wongb@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca
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From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: when are the SUGARCUBES playing TORONTO?
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:55:47 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Does anyone know what date the cubes will be in Toronto?

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Graham       "Droppin' science like Galileo dropped the orange."
graham@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: euaphe@eua.ericsson.se (Peter Henriksson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Cult - Dreamtime
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:55:54 GMT
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

nieder@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Niedermann) writes:

>>>>>> On 1 Apr 92 15:51:38 GMT, cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS) said:

>CHRIS> I just got Dreamtime on CD yesterday and was quite disapointed that all the
>CHRIS> live songs are not included on the disc (as they are on the tape).  There are
>CHRIS> roughly three extra tracks at the end.  I guess that's their
>CHRIS> pseudo-compensation
>CHRIS> for what they left off.  My question is, does anyone know if there are
>CHRIS> two
>CHRIS> versions of this disc (one that may include said material)?  If so I'd
>CHRIS> really
>CHRIS> like to know.

>So would I. I didn't even know there was livetracks on the tape.
>In fact I didn't know they had ever released any live-material.
>But then I have experienced the real thing :------)

>Any info on live-material will really appreciated.

There is also a limited edition of the Dreamtime album (Vinyl, that is) which
includes the "Dreamtime Live at the Lyceum" album for free.
DLatL is recorded May 20, 1984.
Of course there's also some bootleg material around.


--
 ( euaphe@eua.ericsson.se (  \_o__    __      _o_   ( "That's the trouble with (
 ) Peter Henriksson       )    |     ' '      \|/   )  reality - It's taken    )
(  Ellemtel Telecom Labs (    /\             `--'  (   far too seriously."    ( 
)  Stockholm , SWEDEN    )   ' '              |    )   - An Emotional Fish    )
From: ez003338@rocky.ucdavis.edu (Tara)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Kendra Smith (was Re: Opal (Was: mazzy star info desired)
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:52:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr4.220551.2167@chinet.chi.il.us> katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) writes:
>Does anyone know other things Kendra Smith has been involved in and/or
>what she's doing now? 

I have a self-titled cassette by a band called Rainy Day which involves a num-
ber of different artists.  Kendra Smith sings lead vocals on a few of the
tracks, as does Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles (I'm not sure if this was re-
leased before or after she was in the band).  In addition, David Roback, most
recently the guitarist for Mazzy Star, played guitar on and produced the
album.  Um...What else?  A guy named Michael Quercio is also involved--I think
he is/was in the band the Three O'Clock.  There are some interesting covers on
the album including "Sloop John B.," "Holocaust," "I'll be Your Mirror," and
"Rainy Day, Dream Away."  All of the songs on the albums might actually be
cover versions, but I'm not familiar with all of them, so I really couldn't
say.  Oh yeah, it was released in 1984 by Serpent Records/Rough Trade Records.
Hope that was somewhat informative... :)

-- 
 |Tara Marchand        |  "I am you,  |   "To live is to fly, low and high,   |
 |---------------------| and you are  |  So shake the dust off of your wings  |
 |---------------------|    not me."  |   And the sleep out of your eyes."    |
 |ez003338@ucdavis.edu | -REM, "LMR"- | -Cowboy Junkies, "To Live is to Fly"- |
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From: c9111456@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You can't find justice it'll find you..... (mudhoney))
Subject: Re: stage diving
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:11:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.203304.12729@cis.ohio-state.edu>, bohren@cypress.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren) writes:

 Oh I forgot I have this live misfits bootleg and Glenn Danzig says
"come on we went to see some fucking stage diveing here"

                                           yarmin
From: sakorn@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Sakorn Skulpone)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Breeders New EP
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:16:26 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Apr12.162958.10470@cs.uri.edu> reynhout@cs.uri.edu writes:
[...]
|   Maybe it will grow on me, but initial listen is unpleasant.  It's nothing
|like the first Breeders, but again, we were told to expect that.
|
|   Sigh.
|-=- 
|   Andrew <reynhout@cs.uri.edu>

I have to disagree here.  I'm one of the people who was very disappointed
with the first few listens to _Pod_, but _Safari_ was an immediate hit for
me.  Yes, I'd have to say it's rather unlike the first album, much more
conventional, execept for "Safari" which could have come off _Pod_ if
they'd decided to go the disco-metal vein.

It it just me, or is "Do You Love Me Now" so Beatlesque you wonder if it
wasn't produced by George Martin?  And "Don't Call Home" wants to sound
almost Velvet Undergroundish, but there's something else there that I
can't quite put my finger on (and I can't help thinking it would have
been killer as an instrumental).

--
Sakorn (sakorn@seas.ucla.edu)  -- Dtooooah!  Life, why do you mock me? --
From: faubert@fourier.EE.McGill.CA (David M. Faubert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Vioent Femmes
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:06:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: thunder.1992Apr15.180658.12780
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University

In article <73523@netnews.upenn.edu> mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Mary K O'Hagin) writes:
>
>matched their original self titled album.  "Add it up" is a memoralbe 
>(memorable)) song.  It must be heard repeatedly to appreciate it in full.
>.
>
>mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>"words to memorize, words hypnotize, words make my mouth exercise."
>--Violent Femmes

You have a complete understanding of the Femmes!

"When I look at your pants I ... need a kiss!"
	-Greatest lyric in rock history.
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Spin DOctors Re: Nine Inch Nails
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:23:19 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken


the spin doctors are playing at my school in hoboken, stevens, 
 on april 24 i believe...

- bob gaj
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What happened to Wax Trax?
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:42:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.101jphh
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) writes:

> The thread about Nettwerk reminded me that a whole lot of bands that
> used to be on Wax Trax! have moved out.  I haven't kept up with the
> music scene for the past 2 years, so what's the score? 

WaxTrax! made the mistake of being, with a handful of exceptions, a one-note
label.  Lots and lots of New Beat/Industrial Dance bands, most of them
licensed from overseas.  So then two things happened: the scene took hold
over here (thanks to WaxTrax, ironically), which gave the major labels the
incentive to sign away WT!'s core bands like Front 242; and the overseas
scene collapsed in the face of the rave/techno scene, meaning no new bands
for WaxTrax! to work with.  They had a *golden* opportunity when they lost
242 . . . they could very easily have tried to stay on the edge and grab up
the new European techno/hard beat acts for US distribution, but noooooo . . .
and an alternative label that's not infusing itself with new stuff isn't
likely to be a label for much longer.

The only really savvy thing they've done in two years was license CHILL OUT
and the original "What Time Is Love?" from The KLF, and even then they lost
out to Arista when it became apparent that the band had a shot at breaking out
here in the States.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

'twas brillig and the slithy tiles / did lewis carroll in the wabe.
all mimsy were the pedophiles / and the mail paths outgrabe.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jay@wanda.princeton.edu (Jay Lieske)
Subject: Re: Violent Love
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton Univ., Geology Dept.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:22:17 GMT

> |> In <1992Apr4.053351.25692@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> rjw5@po.CWRU.Edu (Ronald J. Williams) writes:
> |> >Has anyone heard of the song "violent love?"

Sorry if I missed this thread earlier and am repeating here.

There is a song 'Violent Love' by Oingo Boingo.  It was on their first EP, 
and a live version appeared on the Boingo Alive disks.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: arebold@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: stage diving
Organization: Clark University
Date: 8 APR 92 20:57:25 GMT

Stagediving - All I have to say is "Oi!"
                                          Bloodbath
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jdh@next14pg2.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan David Harris)
Subject: PEARL JAM
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:25:09 GMT

I just saw Pearl Jam last night at my fine school here and I was just  
wondering if there are any nice sounding bootlegs of them available?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ksantosu@descartes.waterloo.edu (Bullwinkle J. Moose)
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine (Discography)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:41:00 GMT

In article <12154@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>From article <29E776FD.6720@ics.uci.edu>, by bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald):
>
>1984: German Release of a shitty album called "This is Your Bloody
>Valentine".  I've never heard this.

You're not missing anything.  It's really very poor...only one song shows
any promise at all.  The vocalist is horrible too.  (It's not Kevin.)

Cheers

Kevin

"I'm not being unfair...okay, I am, but who cares?" -- The Wedding Present