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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: nhl schedule additions
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:24:39 GMT
Organization: UB

The NHL has finally completed its full schedule for the season.  No, I
don't have it yet.  However, I do have the cities where the games will
be played, for whatever good that is.

There will be 24 games played in 15 non-league cities:  
There will be two games played in Milwaukee, Sacramento, and
Cleveland; There will be one game played in Indianapolis, Phoenix,
Miami, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Providence, and
Birmingham.  There will be four games played in Hamilton and
Saskatoon, and one game in Halifax.


The Sabres announced that they will play two games in Hamilton, one
counted as a road game and the other as a home game.  These games
will, I think,  be played on the 18th of November and the sixth of
March, but I'm not positive.  The first game I think might be against
Vancouver. (I was working on something when last night's news came on,
so I probably am wrong.)


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Valerie Hammerl               	Underemployed technical writer seeks
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
These accounts expire August 24th 1992, or thereabouts.
From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Link Gaetz?
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:00:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

My Strat Hockey league is having its draft in a month, and I was thinking
of using one of my low-round picks on this guy.  However, I remember hearing
that he had been involved in some kind of nasty automobile accident a few
months ago.  If any kind Sharks fan out there could give me an update on
his status, I'd be greatly appreciate it.

Also, I'm sure this is an FAQ, but does somebody have the phone number or
address for THE HOCKEY NEWS?  I'd like to subscribe, getting your hands on
any hockey publication south of the Mason-Dixon line is pretty tough...

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Caps all the way in '92!!     Bruce Hasch    E-mail:hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Subject: 1992/93 New Jersey Devils Schedule
Keywords: hockey, Devils, schedule
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:35:06 GMT


Since I haven't seen this posted here yet (and Val has been requesting
it for a while now), here is the Devils schedule for the upcoming
(hurry!!) season.  Any missing "h"'s in "Pittsburgh" and the like are
unintentional, and any spelling flames should be sent in e-mail.....

-JPC


Game #	Date	Opponent
------	----	--------
 1	10/ 6	NY Islanders
 2	10/ 9	@Philadelphia
 3	10/10	NY Rangers
 4	10/12	Washington
 5	10/14	@NY Rangers
 6	10/17	Philadelphia
 7	10/20	Hartford
 8	10/22	@Chicago
 9	10/24	Pittsburgh
10	10/28	@Hartford
11	10/30	NY Islanders
12	10/31	@NY Islanders
13	11/ 5	@Los Angeles
14	11/ 7	@ San Jose
15	11/11	Montreal
16	11/13	Washington
17	11/14	@Washington
18	11/20	Pittsburgh
19	11/21	@Pittsburgh
20	11/25	@Ottawa
21	11/28	@Quebec
22	12/ 1	Toronto
23	12/ 3	@Ottawa
24	12/ 5	Boston
25	12/ 6	@Buffalo
26	12/ 9	Washington
27	12/11	Pittsburgh
28	12/12	@Pittsburgh
29	12/15	@Winnipeg
30	12/18	@Tampa Bay
31	12/21	NY Rangers
32	12/23	@NY Rangers
33	12/27	Hartford
34	12/29	@Hartford
35	 1/ 1	@Washington
36	 1/ 2	Winnipeg
37	 1/ 4	@NY Rangers
38	 1/ 6	Minnesota
39	 1/ 8	Ottawa
40	 1/ 9	@Boston
41	 1/12	Vancouver
42	 1/14	Los Angeles
43	 1/16	NY Islanders
44	 1/20	@Montreal
45	 1/22	Montreal
46	 1/23	@Boston
47	 1/26	@NY Islanders
48	 1/28	@Minnesota
49	 1/30	@St. Louis
50	 2/ 3	Calgary
51	 2/ 8	NY Rangers
52	 2/ 9	@Detroit
53	 2/13	Philadelphia
54	 2/14	@Philadelphia
55	 2/17	St. Louis
56	 2/19	Buffalo
57	 2/21	Quebec
58	 2/23	@Pittsburgh
59	 2/25	@Philadelphia
60	 2/27	Ottawa
61	 2/28	Detroit
62	 3/ 3	@Hartford
63	 3/ 5	Chicago
64	 3/ 7	Philadelphia
65	 3/ 9	@Vancouver
66	 3/12	@Edmonton
67	 3/13	@Calgary
68	 3/18	Edmonton
69	 3/20	Quebec
70	 3/21	@Philadelphia
71	 3/22	Tampa Bay
72	 3/25	@NY Islanders
73	 3/27	@Washington
74	 3/29	San Jose
75	 3/31	@Buffalo
76	 4/ 3	@Toronto
77	 4/ 4	Pittsburgh
78	 4/ 7	NY Rangers
79	 4/10	@Washington
80	 4/11	NY Islanders
81	 4/14	Pittsburgh
82	 4/15	@Pittsburgh

ALL HOME GAMES START AT 7:35 PM EXCEPT:

   12/ 5,  2/13,  2/27,  3/20:  2:05 PM START
   12/27,  3/ 7:  5:05 PM START

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Subject: Boston league info wanted
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:56:13 GMT

My brother just moved to Boston for work (in Cambridge) and is looking
for hockey opportunities. Can anybody help out with phone numbers of
rinks or leagues that he could try? I'd be happy to summarize my
findings.

Thanks,
George

-- 
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Dept. of Computer Science       UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson
University of Rochester         VOX:  (716) 275-2527
Rochester  NY  14627-0226       FAX:  (716) 461-2018
From: bkg@ssd.kodak.com (Ben K Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: PITTSBURGH PENGUINS NEW LOGO .GIF FILE
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:21:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Aug20.192143.16319
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Originator: bkg@earth

Hear Ye! Hear Ye!...

I posted a drawing if the new Pittsburgh Penguins Logo in 
alt.binaries.pictures.misc ....

Check it out.

Ben
 
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Bowman as Pens coach
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:33:17 GMT

In article <17AUG199211424582@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG) writes:

>And as for Melrose, 1) Who is he?, 2) Is he being paid to be Gretzky's
>baby-sitter, and 3) Will they win a cup with him.  The answers are :
>
>           1) Who cares.  2) Yes.  3) No.
>
This is *very* unfair.  You have yet to see Melrose coach a game and you
already think that he is not a good coach?  Remember, Glen Sather had his
first game too.

>As for Terry Murray, well, I believe he should be fired.  He had three 
>games to figure out how to get around Mario and Co. with the new and 
>improved defense, and he couldn't do it.  Out go the Caps for the 11th 
>straight year.

Murray did a great job during the regular season.  So, he gets to be punished
for the team doing well in the regular season?

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: currie@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Currie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL in the Olympics
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:48:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Aug11.021129.16956@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>generating the media hype the NHL desparately needs.  What's more, you
>are underestimating how good U.S. hockey has become.  A U.S. team could
>field players like Brett Hull, Kevin Stevens, Jeremy Roenick, Brian Leetch,
>Pat LaFontaine,  Joe Mullen, Craig Janney, Phil Housley, Jimmy Carson,
>Ed Olczyk, Chris Chelios, Gary Suter, and Mike Richter.  This team 
>will be competitive against any in the world.  Witness how well the U.S.
>team did in the last Canada Cup.

I agree that the US could `ice' a good club.  Some people have referred to
a Canadian entry as a dream team, and I won't argue that the likes of
Gretzky, Lemieux etc would make it just that.  I don't think that the gap
between Canada and the others will be as great as in basketball at the
Olympics.  There's two many good Americans, Swedes, Fins, Russians etc
(It would be nice to see a Unified team but unlikely). A big difference
between an Olympic hockey tournament and an Olympic basketball tournament
is that a hot goalie won't win a basketball tournament!

Kim
From: bimson@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL and the Olympics
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:38:00 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

It seems to me that Gil Stein has done more for Hockey in the past 3 
weeks than Ziegler did in his entire career; He made ordinary sports 
fans talk about Hockey.  He certainly made this group of net users 
speak up.  All that he might have wanted to do was give the sports 
world the idea that the NHL might put players in the Olympics, and see 
who bites.

Besides, I agree with two of the posts that have appeared here.  
First, that the NHL must market itself.  Even Brett Hull, on one 
interview on ESPN, was asked that if he could ask Ziegler one 
question, or give one comment, what would it be?  The answer was -

Why can't the NHL market its product better?  The NBA went from almost 
dead to super, and now Jordan, Bird, and Magic are household names.

Second, the owners are truly in their own little world.  How could an 
expansion team be granted to Tampa Bay?  One reason only:  MONEY.  You 
have the green, you have a team.  Say nothing about moving into larger 
markets, the owners wanted the money, and with perennial greed running 
this league, there is no way the NHL will become popular until the NHL 
can resolve these problems.

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Greg Bimson                | No Cup for Caps with a Murray as coach.
bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov| GO CAPS, ANYWAY
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Bowman says No!(USA Today WAS wrong!)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:21:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.003013.926@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.214003.12501@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>Bowman was really asking for a token difference, and the Pens wouldn't
>>oblige...what a team...what a way to treat a person who stepped into
>>the breach like he did last year.
>
>I'll take a perhaps unpopular stand: the Pens should *not* hire Bowman as
>coach.  Just because he was successful in last year's playoffs doesn't
>change the fact that there were serious problems between Bowman and the
>team during the regular season.  They shouldn't fool around like this,
>either, but I think they should move Bowman back where he was, and hire
>somebody else as coach.
>

The going rate for a competent coach has pretty much been set with
the Burns, Sutter, and Melrose contracts...to get someone for
good for less than what Melrose signed for considering that nothing
less than a third Stanley Cup will be expected, essentially means
that person is incompetent or desparate.  How is any coach going
to be able to command any respect earning 100K when Barry Melrose
is earning 300K in LA...what Pittsburgh loses without Bowman is a
half of the intimidation factor in the playoffs.  Pittsburgh could
float all year and finish third or fourth again and the mere fact
that Lemieux is on the ice and Bowman is behind the bench is enough
to make Roger Nielson go into coaching overload.  

What is worse now is that they delayed the decision...if they
weren't going to pay Bowman a fair wage, they shouldn't have dragged
in out past June...now they are looking for a coach they can get
for cheap a month before training camp opens...and they have 
treated a hockey legend with utter disrespect...after all he
did for them last year.

Gerald
From: 832989@BOOTH.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL in Europe? (was Re: NHL in the Olympics)
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:34:38 GMT

Gerald Olchowy wrote:
>The NHL is going to take real NHL games to Europe eventually with
>neutral site games as a prelude to expansion, and this makes
>infinitely more sense than the NHL in the Olympics.  

From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
>I don't think NHL can expand to Europe. The hockey here's already too strong
>itself.  With all the problems between NHL and IIHF (or what the Internatioanl
>Hockey Association ever is called)  - problems they're both responsible for
>having created - nobody in Europe wants NHL here.

I agree with John.  It makes sense for the NHL to expand into Europe, but do
European hockey operators want the NHL?  The European Community, along with the
former communist bloc, have about 850 million people, compared to less than 300
million in US and Canada combined.  In the long term, a pan-European hockey
league can compete, and possibly beat, the NHL in attracting top hockey talent
(although North American-born players will probably continue to stay home).

I predict that in 20 years, the NHL will start to see its virtual global cartel
on hockey challenged on a scale exceeding that of the 1970s from the now-defunct
WHA.  Through which months does soccer run in Europe?  The less
overlap soccer has with the NHL season, the greater the European threat.  And so
much the better:  the NHL despots have too much power as it is.

Glenn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Subject: Re: NHL in the Olympics
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:24:07 GMT

vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:

>In article <allan.713829491@silver-vly> allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:
>>Internationally, it wouldn't overshadow other sports, but if they had
>>professional hockey players in the Olympics, hockey would overshadow
>>the contribution of atheletes FROM COUNTRIES WHERE HOCKEY IS POPULAR!
>>
>>Years from now, Canadians will probably still remember Elizibeth Manley.
>>But if the hockey team was stacked with professionals, they would
>>probably remember 'That great Olympic hockey team of 19XX'.
>>Manley? Who's that?

>Using your logic, Elizabeth Manley herself overshadowed many deserving
>biathletes. Thus, why don't we forbid stars from competing in Olympic
>figure skating?

>Similarly, why not forbid track&field stars? :-)

That DOES happen - For example, many people were talking about Ben Johnson
at the 1992 Olympics, while ignoring other 100m sprinters (including
the person who holds the Canadian record). But this situation was no where
near as bad as the attention paid to the American 'Dream Team' in
basketball.

Let the Olympic amatures win their medals and have their moment of
glory. The professionals will have their chance with other events.
(Stanley cup, etc.)


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From: sad@sei.cmu.edu (Susan Dart)
Subject: Brian Trottier back to Islanders?
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:37:18 GMT

 I just heard a rumor that Brian has officially gone back to the Islanders in
an assistant position. Any one know the details?

Susan Dart
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: NHL in the Olympics
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:20:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.015728.6477@erg.sri.com> vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:
>
>Another true piece of NHL-style logic. Let me get it straight: you advocate
>not including the most popular sports into the Olympics because they "would
>overshadow the other Olympic events"? Thus, I presume, you suggest removing
>hockey, figure skating, speed skating, skiing from th eWinter Olympics so
>that the bobsled guys got their deserved atention?
>
>Are you also in favor of removing voleyball, basketball, table tennis,
>track&field and gymnastics from the Summer Olympics so that divers would
>get more atention? 
>
>Also, given the fact that ice hockey is truly popular in only 7 or 8
>countries, why woul dit overshadow other Olympic sports?
>

Soccer football is perhaps the most popular sport in the world...what
is wrong with advocating a format for hockey just like that of soccer.

Gerald
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From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: LA Kings trade rumors
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:30:18 GMT
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug21.154833.8858@draco.macsch.com> b_hart@macsch.com writes:
>
>In article <22967@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis) writes:
>|>Rumor of the week:  Puppa from Buffalo for ???
>|>
>|>Stan Willis
>|>net contact: L.A. Kings
>
>I least these rumors address the need for a backup to Hrudey.
>I'll add the rumors I've heard.
>
>1. Tomas Sandstrom to Detroit for Jimmy Carson. I've been hearing this for
>the last 2 or 3 months, but haven't seen anything discussed here.
>


  This one circulated for a few days last month, then quicky died.  I don't
   think Sandstrom is going anywhere.


>2. The Kings are supposedly talking to a goaltender in the Swiss league.
>The name I've heard is Jakes. I don't know if this is first, last, or even
>spelled right.
>
>--Bill


Thanks Bill.  Yes its Petr Jakes (sp?), and he is a 'top' goalie prospect
in the Swiss Elite league (last weeks post I referred to him as a Swedish
league goalie).  THe local sports talk shows are saying that the WILL be
in LA for the start of training camp.


Stan Willis
net contact: L.A. Kings






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From: mfc@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Mark Castagna)
Subject: Rangers sign Frederik Jax
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:32:55 GMT
Keywords: Swedish RW

The New York Rangers have signed Frederix. He was the Rangers fourth
round draft pick in the 1991 draft. The reason I have posted this to the
"world" is to ask our Swedish contact what he knows of Frederik Jax.

						Thanks,

						Mark Castagna
						hrmso!mfc
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From: 92ali@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: When is the next Champion's Trophy!!!!!!
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:16:18 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi,
   Can anybody furnish me with the details when will the next Champions 
Trophy be played????

Atif Mumtaz
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Junior Tournaments in 1992
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:15:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Aug21.092532.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Fellow hockey enthusiastics,
>
>Given the greater enthusiasm, frequency of posting and cooperation
>shown for the Net during the Olympics, it would seem a pity to lose
>this involvement and interest.  Perhaps one way of maintaining this
>momentum is to focus interest on other international and major hockey
>tournaments, and report the results, tables and comments as we have
>done for the Olympic hockey tournament.
>
>I understand that the remainder of the year will be a busy one for
>National Junior players (Under 21's), as these tournaments are about
>to begin;
>
>7th European Cup for Juniors
>	Junior Mens tournament 22 - 30th August, Amsterdam
>	Junior Womens tournament 30 Aug - 6 Sept, Edinburgh

>Perhaps some of our European friends wouldn't mind posting information
>about the European Cup, possibly Richard in Edinburgh and Joris in
>Amsterdam but others would be helpful.

	I'll certainly oblige with the Edinburgh results, I
	mean, who could turn down the prospect of watching
	a lot of young girls (who are my age !) playing the
	sport that I love ?!!

	Mind you, this does all depend on whether I bother
	to get up and go, and depending on work commitments
	etc etc.

	We'll see what I can come up with !

Richard.
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From: sanjiv@projtech.com (Sanjiv Gossain)
Subject: Re: Please Help...
Organization: Project Technology, Inc., Berkeley, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:46:25 GMT

>
>
>
>Before BArcelona and even after Barcelona Mark Spitz of USA remains the
>person who has one highest  number of Gold medals in olympiads. He had
>won total nine gold medals in swimming.
>
>

Why don't all the people who cross-post this stuff make sure they send
it to relevant news groups becuase I certainly don't want to read
about barcelona gold medals, or markspitz in rec.sport.cricket.

Please stop this cross-posting!!!!!!!!!!!


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