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From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: What is an envelope filter
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:42:57 GMT

In article <2cxs02VO1fCK01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Douglas R Puchalski) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.192201.21716@dgbt.doc.ca>, serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:
>>My brother was wondering... what is an envelope filter? In the most recent
>>issue of Guitar World, it is used in the "Mysterious Ways" transcript.
>>I thought the were using a wah-wah. Can anybody confirm this?
>
>Wah-wah?  That's probably what they mean.  Usually envelope filters are wah-wah
>pedals which, instead of using a variable pedal, use the note intensity (how
>hard you hit the string) to intensify the wah effect.
>
>Actually this is very misleading.  Envelope filters, in their pure form, simply
>follow the waveform produced by your instrument.  That signal can then be used
>to control many different things, among them, a wah-wah effect.  Trigger flanges
>do the same sort of thing.  When you reach a certain threshold, it "begins" the
>flange sweep, which will again be reset upon the next threshold.
>
>--
>Doug Puchalski      drp40@cd.amdahl.com
>.
>.
Doug is close, but his reply needs some clarification.

Envelope FOLLOWERS are circuits that produce a voltage which corresponds
to the amplitude (intensity) of the signal going into them. If you hook
up an envelope follower to another circuit that can control volume
level, you get things like limiters, compressors, and noise gates (which
is why you often see these packaged together in ads).  If you hook up an
envelope follower to a filter, you get an "auto-wah" or what others call
an "envelope filter".  The correct term is an envelope controlled
filter, but I suppose if you can't get people to stop saying Kleenex or
Aspirin, and say facial tissue or analgesic instead....

Readers of Craig Anderton's Electronic Projects for Musicians will be
familiar with the multitude of uses to which an envelope follower can
beput.  I might point out that not all envelope followers are created
equal, and the various idiosyncracies of different commercially
available units depends almost as much on the wierdnesses of the
envelope followersection as they do on the filters.

Mark Hammer
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar buying advice
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:38:48 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

If you are interested in the most guitar for the least money, you ought to
at 
least consider a classical (i.e. nylon string) guitar. It may be that you'd
rather play a steel-string, but the simple fact that the tension of nylon
stings is less than that of steel means the instrument does not have to
be built to be as physically strong. What this means is that you can get
a pretty nice cheap classical that will hold up (while a steel string that
is really cheap will often *fold* up after a year or two). Yamaha sells
quite nice inexpensive models...this is the way I usually counsel students
(or parents of students) who are just starting out and want to get a guitar
but don't want to drop a lot of cash...
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: pjarnicki@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Subject: Re: How would you play this?
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:59:31 GMT

> 
> In article <1992Aug21.215518.25799@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umande91@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benjamin Robert Anderson) writes:
> |> 
> |>    I am having a problem playing something like this:
> |> 
> |>    |--13--10-------10|
> |>    |----------10-----|
> |>    on the top two strings. I get the 10th fret of the B string still ringing.
> |> I am trying to build up the speed on this but can't due to too much noise. Can
> |> someone explain to me what kind of left hand fingering I should use and how to
> |> actually play this properly??
> |> 
> |>                                                  Thanks.
> 
either practise alot or give it up.! ;()
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Drumstick gutiar (bass)
Date: 28 Aug 1992 23:42:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Aug28.224757.7732@wam.umd.edu> peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent) writes:
>
>  Sorry man, but the Guitar up against the mic stand isn't as novel as you 
>think :)  Hendrix used it in the 60's.  But that doesn't make your ideas any
>less cool!  
>  BTW  Danny Gatton plays slide with beer bottles(in fact that's all i've seen
>him play slide with live, and on his album "Elmira St. Blues" he uses an Alka
>Selzer bottle).

Just to clarify...I was being *extremely* facetious when I called beer bottles
and mic stands 'novel' ideas.  It's hard to be humorous (let alone facetious)
on-line without resorting to smiles, grins, and other cutenesses.

But I've also never tried skis, so in context, I could see the confusion.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and rushing home to sharpen the edges on my Rossignols!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: What is an envelope filter
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:26:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.223438.4389@pride386.PP.COM> terry@pride386.PP.COM (Terry Lyons) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.192201.21716@dgbt.doc.ca> serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:
>>My brother was wondering... what is an envelope filter? In the most recent
>>I thought the were using a wah-wah. Can anybody confirm this?
>
>ENVELOPE FILTER;  a VCF (Voltage Controlled Filter ) the volume or 
>"envelope" is used as the controlling voltage to (usually) drive the 
>cut off up or down. there will also be a control to vary the 
>resonance.
>this is basically a synth filter and can be mistaken for a WAWA 
>pedal real easy.
>terry
>
>
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Does anybody know any brand, model and price?

-- 
Serge Ah-Hee                  "Most troubles come from the fact that people 
serge@dgbt.doc.ca		take for granted of what they have, and 
				only care for what they want."
My opinions are mine only.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: New Joe Walsh Album
Organization: NASA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:25:40 GMT


  So... has anyone heard the new Joe Walsh album, "Songs for a Dying Planet"?   
I saw it in the record store last night, and immediately threw down $14 for it.   
After making it through the first three songs, my impression was, "Joe has  
really gone off the deep end this time!"  Seriously, I think he's been hanging  
around with Frank Zappa too much.  But I thoroughly enjoyed these songs, and I  
couldn't stop laughing; Joe is a really unique guy.

  A few of the tracks were more serious, fulfilling the expectations generated  
by the album title.  It was only upon hearing these songs that the full irony  
of the album was apparent.  The album is spattered with guitar and keyboard  
licks lifted from earlier Walsh material, including that of the Eagles and the  
James Gang.  No, they're not simply recycled; they're there for a reason.  I  
won't spoil your enjoyment by giving you my interpretation.  But I guess you  
can't fully appreciate this album if you're not familiar with Walsh's music.

  Synthesizers are used heavily but tastefully (in most cases).  Joe has always  
been into psychodelia; I guess he just has more high-tech toys to play with  
these days.  (Joe Vitale undoubtedly had an influence on this, as well.)   
Certain songs left me with the thought, "This is what industrial pop wishes it  
could be."  But the first track, "Shut Up," was definitely not conceived as a  
dance tune; there is a definite sarcasm in the beat on which everything else is  
built.

  The bottom line:  If you're looking for great Walshian guitar work blended  
smoothly with piano and occasional horns, look to his earlier work.  But if you  
want the latest and greatest statement from this remarkable personality, this  
album is a keeper.

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From: jmgst26@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Need to jury-rig my Rockman, HELP!
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:06:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jmgst26@unix.cis.pitt.edu

I lost the battery cover to my Rockman, for use as a portable.  Can
I tape pennies or nickels over the top to act as a conductor, or do
I even need to.  I'm a techno idiot, and I don't like fiddling with
electricity at all, although I'm sure batteries couldn't harm me much :-)

I'd like to take it to a concert tonight to jam at the tailgate party.

Mike
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: For Sale
From: <STEINKE@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 14:38:15 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

For sale: Marshall JCM 900
             Model 2500 50 watt-
             $480.00
From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: dokken/Mr. Scary
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:04:04 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug31.083728.2082@wkuvx1.bitnet> easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Actually, I remember that I do have a transcription of the live
>version of Mr. Scary, but I think that is in Guitar World, and the
>transcription is only of Lynch's 7 minute (?) intro...  They should
>have went ahead and transcribed the whole thing..The end part is what
>I'm looking for.. (like the version on 'Back for the Attack'). 
>I'll try looking in GFTPM...

To set the record straight:

The live 6+ minute intro to Mr.Scary (from the live album) was
transcribed in GFTPM about two years or so ago.  It has George Lynch on
the cover with his guitar that has the art from Wicked Sensation.
DEFINITELY GFTPM.  Guitar World came out with the tab to Street Fighting
Man around the same time.

The studio version of Mr.Scary was transcribed in GFTPM about 4 years
ago.  It was the same issue that had Over the Hills and Far Away,... I
think it was one of those hall of fame issues.  This is the one that
most of you are looking for.

You can learn a lot from the live intro, though.  Lynch pretty much goes
through all of his tricks in that one.  It'd be pretty tough to play
note-for-note though :-)

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:16:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

In article <7bhx024m20XB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
>Can anyone tell me which type of Strat is best American or Mexican ? Are
>any of the Japanese copies as good ? Also what sort of prices should you
>pay ? Thanks.

This has *got* to be a FAQ by now, but here goes:

I own a Mexi-caster.  Plays great, decent electronics, much better 'feel'
than the Japa-casters I've played.

I was told one of the biggest diffs is that the USA-casters are bench-tested
and intoned before leaving home, and that the Mexis aren't.  Big deal.  I
tried about five, found one I liked and that was 'close', had it intoned by
my favorite tech, and have used it as my workhorse axe for over a year, no
complaints.  He also lowered the 'whammy', cause I don't use it anyway.

I'll probably replace the pickups one day, but only if I find something I
really like, as I'm happy for now with the stock ones.

One man's experience.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and itching to get out of here and go hame and crank that lady up!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: BLUES AMPS
Summary: That Blues ThAng!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:14:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.202613.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, c9037251@wombat.newcastle.edu.au writes:
> I am in the market for a new amp and I would appreciate any advice
> on the following amps.
> 
> 	1. Fender '59 Bassman Reissue

	Ive been playin a reissue for about 2 years. They are very close
	to the originals. You can do some things to make them closer, like
	putting a tube rectifier in the socket that the solid state rectifier 
	is plugged into. Change the first preamp tube to a 12AY7. Most
	reviews say that the reissue sounds a little hard(clean). I have
	found that after about a year the speakerts start to break in. Then
	the tone starts getting closer to the sound of those thirty year old
	bassmans. The only nit I have is the level of volume you must play at
	to get a good tone.

> 	2. Fender "The Twin"

	I assume your talking about the "65 Twin" reissue as it is more in
	line with the other amps you have listed.  Good luck trying to get a 
	blues distortion outa this amp. 85 watts and 2 12inch reissue Jenson 
	type speakers. This is the BB king amp of the sixities. Bell clean up 
	to about 7.5 on the volume.

> 	3. Fender Vibroverb Reissue

	I have played a couple of these, but not for extended periods. I think
	this amp and a Ibanez Tube Screamer just might be a hot blues set up!

> 	4. Any type of old Fender.

	Any old 4X10 Super. They run at 2 ohms and this pushes the power amp
	into the sweet zone at about 6 on the volume. Back your guitar down 
	and it cleans up. They are starting to be the next bassman. If fender
	is smart this will be the next reissue. The only other Fender amp I
	have played was a a 40 watter with reverb and a 15 inch. With a Strat
	you can get a HUGE! FAT! tone.
> 
> 	I only play blues (probably 90% clean and a little distortion
> thrown in for a change) so I want a really good amp that I will be really
> happy with.  I am mainly after a perfect clean amp.
> 
> 	The only amp I have heard, that I like, is the Bassman.  I
> haven't heard the Twin or the Vibroverb enough to make an opinion yet.
> At the moment I'm probably leaning toward the Bassman, but if someone has
> had any bad experiences with them (or good experiences with other amps)
> please let me know.
> 
> 	Also, in the July (?) issue of Guitar Player I've heard that the
> playing setup of many blues players was listed.  This issue hasn't
> arrived in Australia yet so I would also appreciate any information about
> the setup's for SRV or Eric Clapton (and others such as Albert King, Buddy
> Guy etc if they are there).
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> 
> Jason

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
From: mpinkert@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Snowden )
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Drumstick gutiar (bass)
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:05:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug28.224757.7732@wam.umd.edu> peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent) writes:
>
>  Sorry man, but the Guitar up against the mic stand isn't as novel as you 
>think :)  Hendrix used it in the 60's.  But that doesn't make your ideas any
>less cool!  
>  BTW  Danny Gatton plays slide with beer bottles(in fact that's all i've seen
>him play slide with live, and on his album "Elmira St. Blues" he uses an Alka
>Selzer bottle).

Townshend also used the mic stand (and quite effecttively, if I do
say so) as a "tool" for slides....just an added item of interest...

mike
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                    /|\  From tree to tree, From you to me
   the               |   Travellin' twice as fast as on any freeway
\      /  |    |  /-----\  Every single theme
 \ /\ /   |----|  | (O) |  Is wrapped up in the scheme.
  \  \    |    |  \_____/  They all get carried on the Relay.
              *** mpinkert@sdcc13.ucsd (Snowden) ***
From: danielec@moon.Italy.Sun.COM (Daniele Crespi - SUN Italy )
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: guitar shoop in SanFrancisco
Date: 4 Sep 1992 12:20:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: danielec@moon.Italy.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: moon.italy.sun.com

I'm going to SanFrancisco on holiday.
Can someone give me information about where i can buy a Martin D-18
in SanFrancisco at good price !
Thank's a lot !
CIAO 
Daniele


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Subject: Re: Strap buttons
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 09:43:12 CST

In article <1992Sep2.101209.13@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk>
svrobins@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk writes:
 
>So, the questions are : can I simply add a strap button?, if so do screw
>into the body cavity above the neck/body joint (do I need to strengthen this
>in any way?), or into the heel of the neck joint.  Will this adversely affect
>the instrument ?.
>
Screw it into the lower side of the neck heel.  Going into the lower side
helps the button to bind better.  I've done this to every acoustic I've
owned with no adverse side effects.  I wouldn't suggest screwing it into
the body cavity; the wood is just too thin to hold it.  If you're shaky
about doing this to your "baby", take it to the nearest reputable guitar
shop and have it done.
 
>Perhaps this a common arrangment for fixing a strap on acoustics, and I
>should leave it alone.
>
Some acoustics come with the button as standard equipment, some don't.
Most players that I know, however, have them added if there's not one
present.
>Any ideas ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul Robins
>
brian batey
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Magazine On Acoustics Wanted
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:55:02 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

> >ANy magazines out there dedicated to acoustics?
> >
> >If so what are their target audiences, and what
> >are there addresses / phone numbers for subscription
> >
> There are lots of them (Acoustic Guitar, Soundboard, Guitar Review), 

	I don't know "Acoustic Guitar", but there also used to be a mag put out
by the publishers of "Guitar Player" called "Frets" dedicated to acoustic
(mostly steel-string) guitar (with a bit of banjo and mandolin in there 
too). "Soundboard" and "Guitar Review" are both quite good if you're into
classical guitar (that is the only kind of guitar they talk about) - I 
find Guitar Review to be a bit more interesting and better written. There
is
also the English "Classical Guitar" which is quite good...

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: yuf@sequent.com (Kyle Grieser)
Subject: Looking for a 12 string....
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:26:37 GMT


Howdy all... I've recently become interested in getting ahold of a 
12 string.  I just love the sound.  I've been looking around, playing
lots of different guitars.  Currently I've got my eye on an Ovation
with pickup, though they want $600 for it (with case).... I don't really
know the model, though I'm guessing it is the bottom of the line 12
string/pickup that they make.  Any comments?  Any recommendations for
12 strings?  Pickups are not really necessary, so any 12 string will do....

Apologies if this thread has been recently discussed... if it has, I
never saw it go by....

Thanks!

-yuf
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
From: cbray@nyx.cs.du.edu (chris bray)
Subject: REQ: Yes, Tom Cochran, others...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 18:55:21 GMT

Hello there...

I was wondering if anybody had the chords or tab or whatever to any of these
songs:

"Life is a Highway" by Tom Cochran 
"Love Will Find a Way" by Yes
"All I Want" by Toad the Wet Sprocket (or anything else off of "Fear")
anything off of "Girlfriend" by Matthew Sweet
anything off of "Bandwagonesque" by Teenage Fanclub (What You Do to Me, etc)

and the intro or closing theme from the Ren and Stimpy Show...

Thanks...either posting or email would be greatly appreciated...


Chris Bray
-
csb1@engr.uark.edu

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: as360517@orion.yorku.ca
Subject: Beginner Questions
Organization: York University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:25:39 GMT

I just started learning how to play guitar about a month ago and I have
a few beginner's questions:

1.  Would you recommend guitar lessons?  (Currently I am trying to teach
    myself using books from the library and such)
2.  What type of guitar playing is easiest (when first learning)?  (I want
    to be able to develop basic theory and technique first and then
    gradually move up)
3.  Which books, material, etc. do you recommend for beginners?

Right now, I have a small classical guitar with nylon strings that I
got for free.  It's real cheap looking and it doesn't have the best
sound, but I guess it's alright to start off with.  What are the
best brands of acoustic guitars?  (That are relatively cheap as
well)


Thanks for the responses (In advance)



Brenn Santos   ( INTERNET: as360517@orion.yorku.ca )
	       ( BITNET  : as360517@yuorion.bitnet )

	
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From: day@elmer.orl.mmc.com (Jim Day)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: ****MUSIC NOTATION PROGRAM****MSDOS****
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:36:10 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta (Orlando, FL)

In article <6uzd-240892091312@ggbmac137.engin.umich.edu.>, 6uzd@um.cc.umich.edu (Kevin A. Buck) writes:
|> 
|> For the past few weeks, there have been numerous posts concerning music
|> notation programs.  I have just picked up one via anonymous FTP called
|> Songwrite V.  The program is located at "msdos.archive.umich.edu".  It is
|> in the directory "\msdos\music\".  I have just used it a few times and have
|> found it to be more than satisfactory.  It will take and MIDI format songs
|> or songs created in the program (it isn't just a notator) and print them
|> out.  I have been able to have it display on the screen the music created
|> within the program but not those created outside via other programs.  I
|> have noticed just one bug in the program though, after you display the
|> pregenerated piece of music and you try to open up another file (not
|> pregenerated) the program boots you.  Other than that, it is worth trying.
|> 
|> 
|> Kevin
|> 
|> e-mail:6uzd@um.cc.umich.edu

Has anyone else had success in even finding files in this directory at this site?
When I ftp there and issue the cd to the directory given above it seems to move
to that directory, but when I issue the "cd /msdos/music" and then issue the
"dir" command, I do not get any directory listing.  It is as if the directory was
empty.  I don't seem to have a problem ftp'ing to other sites on the Internet.
Anyone else tried this?  Any suggestions/comments?

Thanks for your help.
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From: guy@harlqn.co.uk (Guy Snape)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: The annotated American Pie
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:34:23 GMT
Distribution: alt.guitar
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England

I recently saw something about "The Annotated American Pie"
Could someone re-post it please?


guy@harlqn.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar