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From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Subject: Plans for Student Space Action?
Summary: Future activities of Student Space Action
Keywords: Letter-writing, Clinton/Gore administration, new Congress
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:31:34 GMT

In article 7NOV199214422578@iago.caltech.edu, irwin@iago.caltech.edu 
(Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) writes:
> In article <n0dcbt@ofa123.fidonet.org>, David.Anderman@ofa123.fidonet.org writes...
> >I would like to confirm the role of the CalTech SEDS students in getting
> >George Brown re-elected: they turned out every Saturday for months for George 
> >Brown's campaign; they had much more of an impact on the race than the older
> >NSS members in the area who talked a good game, but really didn't contribute
> >as much (I was one of the NSS members who talked a good game, but only showed 
> >up twice for the campaign).
> > 
> Dave,
> 	We appreciate your vote of support for us here, however, we are trying
> to downplay the involvement of "SEDS" in this campaign b/c of non-profit
> status concerns.  While indeed those students who participated were, by-and-
> large, SEDS members of one of our local chapters (not just Caltech, but also
> Occidental College, UCLA and Claremont Colleges), we would prefer to be called
> "Student Space Action" (sort of like the distinction between NSS and 
> Spacecause :-).  Just for the record, there were no funds allocated to SEDS
> that were used for the purpose of working on the campaign of Congressman
> Brown.  (Indeed, other than our own out-of-pocket expenses, there were no
> funds used by us...period :-).
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> Irwin Horowitz                        |
> Astronomy Department                  |"Whoever heard of a female astronomer?"
> California Institute of Technology    |--Charlene Sinclair, "Dinosaurs"
> irwin@iago.caltech.edu                |
> ih@deimos.caltech.edu                 |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Irwin, does Student Space Action have any plans for letter-writing campaigns 
to continue to voice our concerns to the incoming administration (even though
it may fall on deaf ears), and to educate the newly elected Congresslings and
Senators? :-)

I realize that SEDS can't do any lobbying because of its non-profit status.

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu

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Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Subject: Plans for Student Space Action?
Summary: Future activities of Student Space Action
Keywords: Letter-writing, Clinton/Gore administration, new Congress
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:33:26 GMT

In article 7NOV199214422578@iago.caltech.edu, irwin@iago.caltech.edu 
(Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) writes:
> Dave,
> 	We appreciate your vote of support for us here, however, we are trying
> to downplay the involvement of "SEDS" in this campaign b/c of non-profit
> status concerns.  While indeed those students who participated were, by-and-
> large, SEDS members of one of our local chapters (not just Caltech, but also
> Occidental College, UCLA and Claremont Colleges), we would prefer to be called
> "Student Space Action" (sort of like the distinction between NSS and 
> Spacecause :-).  Just for the record, there were no funds allocated to SEDS
> that were used for the purpose of working on the campaign of Congressman
> Brown.  (Indeed, other than our own out-of-pocket expenses, there were no
> funds used by us...period :-).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Irwin Horowitz                        |
> Astronomy Department                  |"Whoever heard of a female astronomer?"
> California Institute of Technology    |--Charlene Sinclair, "Dinosaurs"
> irwin@iago.caltech.edu                |
> ih@deimos.caltech.edu                 |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Irwin, does Student Space Action have any plans for letter-writing campaigns 
to continue to voice our concerns to the incoming administration (even though
it may fall on deaf ears), and to educate the newly elected Congresslings and
Senators? :-)

I realize that SEDS can't do any lobbying because of its non-profit status.

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu

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Gerald G. Marfoe                    |"Mirabile visu. Mirabilia/Et itur ad astra
InterNet: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu    |... Suus cuique mos. Suum cuique.../
          ggmar@ducvax.auburn.edu   |Memento, terrigena./Memento, vita brevis."
          ggmar@hoshi.colorado.edu  |- "Afer Ventus", Enya, "Shepherd Moons"
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From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Did Rep. George Brown (D-CA) get re-elected? (Was Upcoming Space Event)
Summary: George Brown re-elected?
Keywords: George Brown, Congress
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:12:38 GMT
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article <n0caet@ofa123.fidonet.org>, David.Anderman@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>        -Campaign for Space- Rally for Congressman George Brown
>  
> On Saturday, October 31, at 10 am, space activists will stage 
> a rally in support of the re-election campaign of Congressman 
> George Brown (D-Colton). The rally will be held at 495 W. Valley Pkwy
> in Colton in San Bernardino county.
>  
> Congressman George Brown is the current Chair of the House Committee
> on Space and Science, and one of the nation's most powerful voices
> in support of the space program. He is a life-long supporter of 
> space development, and was an early and important co-sponsor of 
> the Launch Services Purchase Act. 
>  
> During the campaign, he has responded to a questionnaire submitted
> by NSS members, with detailed answers on his views on the future of
> the space program. His opponent in the race did not respond to the
> questionnaire. The questionnaire and Congressman's Brown's responses
> are available upon request.
>  
> All space activists in southern California are asked to show their
> support for space development by attending the October 31 rally, which
> is free of charge, and open to the general public.
>  
> For more information, please contact David Anderman at 714/524-1674.
>  
> 
> --- Maximus 2.00
-- 

Did Congressman George Brown win re-election to the House, and in either
case, what were the election results for this House race?

I know that Congressman Dave McCurdy of Oklahoma was re-elected - he's one
of the NASP's strongest backers in Congress (even though he is a Democrat).

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InterNet: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu    |... Suus cuique mos. Suum cuique.../
          ggmar@ducvax.auburn.edu   |Memento, terrigena./Memento, vita brevis."
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From: kentm@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent)
Subject: Re: Did Rep. George Brown (D-CA) get re-elected? (Was Upcoming Space Event)
Keywords: George Brown, Congress
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.135457.14486@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>
>Yes George Brown did win re-election to the house. 

I'm surprised at the strong support for Brown.  Was Dick Rutan running on an
anti-space platform?  That would surprise me, since he's a strong supporter
of aerospace.

>+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Allen W. Sherzer | "A great man is one who does nothing but leaves        |
>|  aws@iti.org     |  nothing undone"                                       |
>+----------------------169 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX----------------------+

I count 168.  But anyway DCX is right on schedule for a 23 Apr 93 launch at
8:00 am!!!

Mike

-- 
Michael Kent                                   kentm@rpi.edu
McDonnell Douglas                              Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

Tute Screwed Aero Class of '92                              Apple II Forever !!
From: irwin@iago.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Re: Did Rep. George Brown (D-CA) get re-elected? (Was Upcoming Space Event)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 12:39 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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Keywords: George Brown, Congress
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <7tk1#b-@rpi.edu>, kentm@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent) writes...
>In article <1992Nov6.135457.14486@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>>
>>Yes George Brown did win re-election to the house. 
> 
>I'm surprised at the strong support for Brown.  Was Dick Rutan running on an
>anti-space platform?  That would surprise me, since he's a strong supporter
>of aerospace.
> 
No, Rutan was running on the standard GOP platform.  However, Brown received
the support of the space community (regardless of partisanship) for two 
reasons:
	First, had he been defeated, then some other Democrat would have taken
	over the chair of the SST committee...and that person would almost
	certainly not have been as strongly pro-space as Brown (hell, it's 
	tough enough to find GOP'ers who are as pro-space as Brown :-).

	Second, had Rutan won, he would have been a freshman congressman from
	the minority party...which must be the lowest form of life inside the
	Beltway.  Rutan's policies on space had little to do with the support
	of the space community in this race.  Simple political reality was the
	overriding concern.
Please note, I happen to be a moderate democrat, and was quite happy to see
George Brown reelected as much for his other positions as for his pro-space
positions.
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Irwin Horowitz                        |
Astronomy Department                  |"Whoever heard of a female astronomer?"
California Institute of Technology    |--Charlene Sinclair, "Dinosaurs"
irwin@iago.caltech.edu                |
ih@deimos.caltech.edu                 |
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From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald G. Marfoe)
Subject: Plans for Student Space Action?
Summary: Future activities of Student Space Action
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:35:23 GMT

In article 7NOV199214422578@iago.caltech.edu, irwin@iago.caltech.edu 
(Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) writes:

> Dave,
> 	We appreciate your vote of support for us here, however, we are trying
> to downplay the involvement of "SEDS" in this campaign b/c of non-profit
> status concerns.  While indeed those students who participated were, by-and-
> large, SEDS members of one of our local chapters (not just Caltech, but also
> Occidental College, UCLA and Claremont Colleges), we would prefer to be called
> "Student Space Action" (sort of like the distinction between NSS and 
> Spacecause :-).  Just for the record, there were no funds allocated to SEDS
> that were used for the purpose of working on the campaign of Congressman
> Brown.  (Indeed, other than our own out-of-pocket expenses, there were no
> funds used by us...period :-).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Irwin Horowitz                        |
> Astronomy Department                  |"Whoever heard of a female astronomer?"
> California Institute of Technology    |--Charlene Sinclair, "Dinosaurs"
> irwin@iago.caltech.edu                |
> ih@deimos.caltech.edu                 |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Irwin, does Student Space Action have any plans for letter-writing campaigns 
to continue to voice our concerns to the incoming administration (even though
it may fall on deaf ears), and to educate the newly elected Congresslings and
Senators? :-)

I realize that SEDS can't do any lobbying because of its non-profit status.

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu

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Gerald G. Marfoe                    |"Mirabile visu. Mirabilia/Et itur ad astra
InterNet: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu    |... Suus cuique mos. Suum cuique.../
          ggmar@ducvax.auburn.edu   |Memento, terrigena./Memento, vita brevis."
          ggmar@hoshi.colorado.edu  |- "Afer Ventus", Enya, "Shepherd Moons"
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From: rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com (Rich Kolker)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford TV Commercial
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:36:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: South Coast Computing Services, Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.031535.25820@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> wesley@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Wesley D Scott) writes:
>I saw a commercial with Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford advertising
>the National Space Foundation last weekend.  Does anyone have
>any more information?
>
>wesley@ecn.purdue.edu

It's an old ad.  One of
many made withh "opposites" a 
few years back.
.
++rich
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                          It's been a long, long time
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From: pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: Did Rep. George Brown (D-CA) get re-elected? (Was Upcoming Space Event)
Organization: University of SW Louisiana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:39:37 GMT

In article <7NOV199212391491@iago.caltech.edu> irwin@iago.caltech.edu (Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) writes:

>No, Rutan was running on the standard GOP platform.  However, Brown received
>the support of the space community (regardless of partisanship) for two 
>reasons:
	   First, had he been defeated, then some other Democrat would have taken
	   over the chair of the SST committee...and that person would almost
	   certainly not have been as strongly pro-space as Brown (hell, it's 
	   tough enough to find GOP'ers who are as pro-space as Brown :-).


Yah. But you've just gone ahead and voted for the people who are
rumored to be moving NASP to Stennis... damn whether or not it makes
sense, or is good for the project, we need jobs in Mississippi!

When you have to vote for someone due to their seniority and/or
position rather than their platforms, I would argue that you don't
really have a democracy anymore.



--
Phil Fraering
In the country of the blind....
60 minutes doesn't run stories about people trying to ban hearing
implants!
From: jafoust@cco.caltech.edu (Jeffrey Alan Foust)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Re: Plans for Student Space Action?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:52:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov9.213523.602@news.duc.auburn.edu> gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>
>Irwin, does Student Space Action have any plans for letter-writing campaigns 
>to continue to voice our concerns to the incoming administration (even though
>it may fall on deaf ears), and to educate the newly elected Congresslings and
>Senators? :-)

	While I can't speak for the leadership of Student Space Action (SSA or
Action for short), I would imagine that plans like the ones described above
will be in the works in the near future.  SSA is still quite informally and
loosely organized at this stage - it was founded just this summer by John
Wright (an Occidental College student who interned this summer in Washington
at Bionetics, a NASA contractor), with the help of Phil Rosenthal (a grad
student in physics at Caltech), myself, and others.  SSA's sole project to
date has been to work on the campaign of Rep. George Brown.  (It should
be noted that SSA offered its services to Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA),
another strong supported of the space program, but he declined it because he
didn't need the extra help in what was an easy re-election campaign). SSA
has been too busy working on Brown's campaign to deal with such administrivia
as setting down a formal structure...

	If anyone would like more information about Student Space Action,
including plans for future activities, contact:

	Student Space Action
	c/o John Wright
	Occidental College Box 197
	Los Angeles, CA 90041

	213/341-4295

	wrightj@cheshire.oxy.edu
(John reads his e-mail everyday and will respond promptly, trust me...)

>I realize that SEDS can't do any lobbying because of its non-profit status.

Yep.  Also, there is currently no formal relationship between SEDS and Student
Space Action, although it happens that a very large majority of SSA's members
are SEDS members as well...


-- 
Jeff Foust                        Senior, Geophysics/Planetary Science, Caltech
jafoust@cco.caltech.edu   			   	 jeff@scn1.jpl.nasa.gov
		Tom Seaver: "Hey, Yogi, what time is it?"
		Yogi Berra: "You mean now?"
From: wesley@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Wesley D Scott)
Subject: Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford TV Commercial
Followup-To: talk.politics.space
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:15:35 GMT

I saw a commercial with Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford advertising
the National Space Foundation last weekend.  Does anyone have
any more information?

wesley@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald G. Marfoe)
Subject: Plans for Student Space Action?
Summary: Future activities of Student Space Action
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:35:02 GMT

In article 7NOV199214422578@iago.caltech.edu, irwin@iago.caltech.edu 
(Horowitz, Irwin Kenneth) writes:
> Dave,
> 	We appreciate your vote of support for us here, however, we are trying
> to downplay the involvement of "SEDS" in this campaign b/c of non-profit
> status concerns.  While indeed those students who participated were, by-and-
> large, SEDS members of one of our local chapters (not just Caltech, but also
> Occidental College, UCLA and Claremont Colleges), we would prefer to be called
> "Student Space Action" (sort of like the distinction between NSS and 
> Spacecause :-).  Just for the record, there were no funds allocated to SEDS
> that were used for the purpose of working on the campaign of Congressman
> Brown.  (Indeed, other than our own out-of-pocket expenses, there were no
> funds used by us...period :-).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Irwin Horowitz                        |
> Astronomy Department                  |"Whoever heard of a female astronomer?"
> California Institute of Technology    |--Charlene Sinclair, "Dinosaurs"
> irwin@iago.caltech.edu                |
> ih@deimos.caltech.edu                 |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Irwin, does Student Space Action have any plans for letter-writing campaigns 
to continue to voice our concerns to the incoming administration (even though
it may fall on deaf ears), and to educate the newly elected Congresslings and
Senators? :-)

I realize that SEDS can't do any lobbying because of its non-profit status.

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu

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InterNet: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu    |... Suus cuique mos. Suum cuique.../
          ggmar@ducvax.auburn.edu   |Memento, terrigena./Memento, vita brevis."
          ggmar@hoshi.colorado.edu  |- "Afer Ventus", Enya, "Shepherd Moons"
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From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: NJ House election results
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:25:57 GMT
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

Sorry about the waste of bandwidth (again)! :-)

I'm posting these election results here because I accidentally deleted the 
address of the person who asked me for them after my original posting.

Here are the election winners for New Jersey's House races. I don't know
how any of these guys voted on space issues at all.

New Jersey

District 1 - Robert Andrews (D) 70%
         2 - William Hughes (D) 57%
         3 - Jim Saxton (R)     62%
         4 - Chris Smith (R)    63%
         5 - Marge Roukema (R)  74%
         6 - Frank Pallone Jr. (D) 54%
         7 - Bob Franks (R)        55%
         8 - Herbert Klein (D)     49%
         9 - Robert Torricelli (D) 61%
        10 - Donald M. Payne (D)   77%
        11 - Dean A. Gallo (R)     73%
        12 - Richard Zimmer (R)    67%
        13 - Robert Menendez (D)   68%

With the exception of NJ Districts 7 and 8, (new districts?), all incumbents
in NJ were re-elected.   

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          ggmar@ducvax.auburn.edu   |Memento, terrigena./Memento, vita brevis."
          ggmar@hoshi.colorado.edu  |- "Afer Ventus", Enya, "Shepherd Moons"
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