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From: raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anyone else excited?
Keywords: Dracula, Bram Stoker, premiere
Date: 7 Nov 92 10:29:02 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

> 
> Is anyone else just getting really excited about 'Dracula' on the 13th?
> Dunno about you, but the previews are really getting me quivering with
> anticipation :)
> It looks really good. 
> r.

Aye, that I am.

If perchance some of you should visit Santa Cruz county someday,
drop by for a taste of our local hospitality.  Lost Boys, and all
that, you know.

Watch for the Ambrotype photographic plates in Coppola's movie.
For a small warm, red, liquid donation to my -- ah -- system, 
you shall see copies of the original plates as used in the 
movie: Winona Ryder, Tom Waits, et al.

-- The Raven

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"The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California -- +1 408 338-9754
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd)
Subject: Re: Wyrewolves
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:40:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.132024.1725@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_coolidgejs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>Did anything ever become of the werewolf discussion list that someone suggested
>not too long ago?
>
>Why would anyone WANT to be a vampire?  Don't vampires need to feed off the
>blood of the living?  I wouldn't want that kind of curse.  Blood banks are not
>an alternative either, because they are in short supply.  (Donate blood!)  Now
>werewolves on the other hand...they don't need blood, just food like the rest
>of us.  For me, lycanthropy would be the only way to go.
>
>Once again, any werewolf lovers out there?  (We could call the group
>alt.wyrewolves to get even wyth thys group.)
>

[bye bye .sig]

Well, I'm a wolf lover too. Although I am not a werewolf, although lately
I have been called a wolf, I doubt if I would want to be one of them either.
I happen to enjoy full moons as a normal person with a special person with
me. I don't like the idea of smelling my semi-SO's butt while walking thru
the park. That act is reserved for other places. You must understand though,
that werewolves are known baby snatchers. I love kids, as long as they are
other people's kids, and couldn't live with this. Of course, the fear factor
would be great, and there are quite a few advantages over being a vamp.



-- 

               Life is too short, no matter how long you live.

                                                -- Michael Landon
From: rgoldberg@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: new reader
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:53:23 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Hi, I'm not sure what this is all about, but if it concerns vampires, then 
it's for me!
To answer some questions:
	There is no difference in meaning between "vampire" and "vampire".  
Perhaps it's more commonly spelled with a "Y" in countries that use British 
English, or maybe it's just more old-fashioned that way.
	As for vampiric music:  Sting's "Moon Over Bourbon Street" is about 
Louis, Faith No More has a vampire song called "Surprise! You're Dead!", and 
Concrete Blonde has one called "Bloodletting (The Vampire Song)".
	For vampire books besides Dracula and Anne Rice's books, here are some 
entries on my list of "Books I Must Get When I Have More Money:"
--L. Shepard, "The Dracula Book of Vampire Stories"
--D. Stewart, "The Vampire of Mons"
--P. Monette, "Nosferatu"
--B. Hurwood, "By Blood Alone"
--B. Lumley, "Necroscope"
--T. Sturgeon, "Some of Your Blood"
--R. Rudorff, "The Dracula Archives"
--M. Ross,"Dark Shadows"  "The Curse of Colinwood"  "The Secret of Barnabus 
Collins"  (I'm sure there are more; these are the ones I saw in a nearby 
bookstore)
--D. Bischoff, "Vampires of Nightworld"
--C. Q. Yarbro, "The Saint-Germain Chronicles"  "Blood Games"  "Crusader's 
Torch"
--Rice, Simmons, & Farner (eds), "The Ultimate Dracula"
--A. Ryan, "Vampires" (a wonderful anthology with a cover illustration by 
Edward Gorey
--Golden, "Vampire of the Mists"
B. Hambly "Those Who Hunt the Night"
..more to come...

Is anyone out there a fan of Edward Gorey?
From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:53:38 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



bius03.math.uwaterloo.ca just said:
>>Can vampires breed with humans (Not pseudo-vampires)?
Yes, hell yes!  :)
 
>>Vampires were
born human, they can't be anything more than a sub-species.  If vampires
could have children with each other only then they would be a new
species.
 
Totally wrong.   Vampires usually don't mate with each other, as it causes
a lot of hassles, really :).  Also, 2 Vampires of the same type cannopt feed
off each other, if one needed to badly, though, the one would let him/her
feed off him/her and that vampire would die.

-- 
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|| kendall@cats.ucsc.edu    ||"Don't Let Me Stop Your Great Self-Destruction ||
||\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\||"DIE! If You Want To, You Misguided Martyr!!   ||
============================||"I Wash My Hands Of Your Destruction......     ||
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Werewolf newsgroup
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:58:09 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

If your creating an alt group, you don't need USENETs 'blessing', just
find a willing sys-admin to create the group for you, and hope that
everyone passes it along. :)
r. (not a sys-admin :)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:20:01 EST
From: Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: White Wolf and their bastardization of the mythos

Greetings...
     There have been quite a few people on this 'group who have been refering
  to the White Wolf games _Vampire:_The_Masquerade_ and  _Werewolf:_The_Apoc-
  olypse_... I have no problem with either of these games as tools for under-
  standing the points of view of either of these unearthly, inhuman creatures,
  _IF_USED_PROPERLY_...
     The big problem I have with the trends I've been seeing is that there
  seem to be people who take what's printed in WW's (less than perfectly
  edited and organized) game books as the gospel truth on the nature of
  the "arcane progeny of Cain"... A lot of what is printed up by WW (White
  Wolf) has reached the ignoble status of _fakelore_
     {A digression: Folklore consists of stories that are created of, by,
  and for the people... without regard for opinion or profit - Fakelore
  consists of stories that are created by a select group of people for a
  specific reason, for example: Paul Bunyun (sp?) was created in order to
  market a specific product... Fakelore often exists (initially) solely for
  the purposes of making money!}
     With the release of the Werewolf book, WW Games has launched themselves
  incontrovertably (sp?) into the realm of Fakelore - They're just creating
  nifty ideas for the express purpose of making money (for that matter, many
  of their Vampire supplements, with the comic-bookish Disciplines and Clans
  are just a little bit extreme, non?)!!! Consequently, I will be happy to
  listen to your arguments, and I accept the idea that the mythos of the
  Vampire (and other creatures of the night) is infinitely flexible and
  enriched by all variety - but I will never, _never_, NEVER, _NEVER_ accept
  a statement from any White Wolf product as a refutation of a traditional
  behavior of our folklore demons.
     (For those of you who may be wondering, this tirade was inspired by the
  people who said that the humanity or fury of a werewolf or vampire was
  such-and-such a way because such-and-such a WW Games book said so. Lastly,
  I'd like to mention that I used to be a real die-hard WW gamer - I stopped
  as soon as I read the Werewolf book because it's largely money-grubbing
  fakelore fluff) Take Care, All...
                                 - Jonathan
From: v116qhth@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I'm not evil...I'm just good looking)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Vlad?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  What's the connection between Vlad (the Impailer I am assuming) and Dracula?
  Same guy?
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: vamp. music
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:01:47 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM


    Another source for some pleasant music with a touch of vampiritic 
lyrics is Stevie Nicks 'The Wild Heart'.    'Nightbird', 'Wild Heart', 
'Gate & Garden' & 'Beauty & the Beast' are all explicitly vampire songs.  
The mood of the entire piece is romantic.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: "Jim Griffith" <jgriffit@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Test
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:53:19 -0500
From: ee89rdc@brunel.ac.uk (Richard D Cullen)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Aes Sedai
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:47:10 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

The author of the `Wheel of Time' series is Robert Jordan.
From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:26:19 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



>In article <92309.200328THN107@psuvm.psu.edu> <THN107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>        As for the movie Sundown:  The Vampire in Retreat, I especially
>>>enjoyed the idea of wooden bullets to kill vampires (no way someone`s going to
>>>remove all those splinters from the heart).  Of course, those of us in CHILL
>>>also have another idea:  take an ordinary shotgun shell and fill it with tiny,
>>>silver, blessed crosses.  That will annoy a vampire to no end!
>>
>>I suggest you watch 'Subspecies'.  In this movie, a shell from a shotgun is
>>filled with tiny wooden rosary beads.  Oh...if a vampire could mate with a
>>sorceress or a mortal, what would the children be?
>>
>>-T
>
>Vamps are rendered sterile aren't they?

Ummmm, nope, don't think so.





   
                              


-- 
||--------------------------||                 K E N D /\ L L                ||
|| kendall@cats.ucsc.edu    ||"Don't Let Me Stop Your Great Self-Destruction ||
||\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\||"DIE! If You Want To, You Misguided Martyr!!   ||
============================||"I Wash My Hands Of Your Destruction......     ||
                            ===================================================
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
Subject: Re: Other vampires?
Keywords: Saint-Germain
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: world, public
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:22:46 GMT

In article <BxGrAB.4Ms@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tonya@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (lillie tonya l) writes:
>Is anyone out there interested in anything besides Anne Rice, Lestat or
>Dracula?  How about the vampire novels by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro?  and he
>her vampire characters: Saint-Germain, Madelaine or Olivia??

Yeah, I like Yarbro's novels too.  They're not quite as good as Anne
Rice's books, though.  I particularly like the way she gets into
history in her books.  That's something I'd like Anne Rice to do
sometime with Marius or one of the other old vampires.

I wonder if her books truly qualify as horror though.  I never really
get too frightened by reading her books.  Probably because her
vampires are usually the good guys.  I still enjoy the books though.

I liked Olivia the best, mostly because I like Roman history.

I have to say though that my all-time favorite vampire novel is:

Vampire Tapestry by Suzy McKee Charnas.

Check it out.

SD

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: jyaruss@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Wyrewolves
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:17:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.134019.4674@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd) writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.132024.1725@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_coolidgejs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

>Did anything ever become of the werewolf discussion list that someone suggested
>>not too long ago?
>>
>>Why would anyone WANT to be a vampire?  Don't vampires need to feed off the
>>blood of the living?  I wouldn't want that kind of curse.  Blood banks are not
>>an alternative either, because they are in short supply.  (Donate blood!)  Now
>>werewolves on the other hand...they don't need blood, just food like the rest
>>of us.  For me, lycanthropy would be the only way to go.
>>
>>Once again, any werewolf lovers out there?  (We could call the group
>>alt.wyrewolves to get even wyth thys group.)
> [bye bye .sig]
> 
 Well, I'm a wolf lover too. Although I am not a werewolf, although lately
> I have been called a wolf, I doubt if I would want to be one of them either.
> I happen to enjoy full moons as a normal person with a special person with
> me. I don't like the idea of smelling my semi-SO's butt while walking thru
> the park. That act is reserved for other places. You must understand though,
> that werewolves are known baby snatchers. I love kids, as long as they are
> other people's kids, and couldn't live with this. Of course, the fear factor
> would be great, and there are quite a few advantages over being a vamp.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>                Life is too short, no matter how long you live.
> 
>                                                 -- Michael Landon

Yes! We definetly should have a werewolf group. If someone wants to tell
me how to go about getting one on here (*very* clearly) the I will
do it.
From: skelly@pleiades.bucknell.edu (sean kelly `94)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:22:44 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu

The third book in the 'Eye of the World' series is called the Shadow
Rising.  They just keep getting better...
-Sean
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 20:19:45 EST
From: <THN107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: rich vampires

I've seen 'Forever Knight'.  As a series, it's quite alright, but it must
handle a vampire's life through one hour episodes which is no wonder there
are moments of...how do i put it...irregularities in the quality.  However,
if you are truly fascinated by vampires, the show is bearable and sometimes
quite interesting.

I've recently begun to follow this newsgroup, and I must say, if I were a
vampire, I would find all this amusing.

This is out of context but I noted that the topic of blood, besides being the
drink of choice for vampires, has not really been discussed.  I have seen
blood.  Its deep rich color and the undeniable sweetness of its taste.  As a
child, I would watch its steady pace down my finger and at the point when it
would drip into space, I would gently push it back along its path with my
tongue.  Reaching the cut, I would place my lips around it and suck.

-T
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: mkenyon@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Kenyon)
Subject: music
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 06:25:04 GMT

have you heard "Date with a Vampire Girl Tonight" by the Screaming
Tribesmen?

-- In response to 1064...
From: v116qhth@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I'm not evil...I'm just good looking)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Francis Ford Coppola's DRACULA
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  I am estatic with joy, this new movie is opening here Friday!
  I, for once, won't have anybody who has seen the movie telling me about it in
  advance. I have to work so I am going to the Midnight Movie showing, what
  could be more appropriate. The only thing that could ruin my night would
  be if the movie sucks. To add to this, I am in the process of reading 
  a copy of the original Bram Stoker novel. Excellent book.

				ShadowSlayer
From: jadair@cs.utexas.edu (John S. Adair)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: vamp. music
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:31:02 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu

A not so legitimate vamp music ref is Tom Petty's Freefallin':
  the vampires walkin' through the Valley
  move west down Ventura Blvd.
(quoting from memory, forgive me if I missed a word or two)
Of course this more likely refers to parasites and vamp wannabes
than 'real' vamps.

A more legitimate ref is Vampire Rock by the Fabulous Poodles,
a song with about as much deep significance as the Monster Mash,
but good nonetheless.
-- 
John S. Adair        | gobble gobble gobble woo woo woo
(512)323-6115        | Whaddya think--'The turkeys are not what they seem',
jadair@cs.utexas.edu |     or 'I am the turkey leg, and I sound like this'?
From: snx@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Shiva Nourpanah)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: changes
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:33:16 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Keywords: 
Did you ever read Woof, or see the serial on CITV? Eric(the hero) describes very 
similar sensations when turning into a dog. Though of course, I agree that a vampire
or something is far more interesting.
Shiva
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G)
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:17:31 GMT


In article <Ht-=GmB@engin.umich.edu> ferret@paradox.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka) writes:
>
>	As everyone knows, VAMPIRE is the standard word used to refer to the
>immortal, blood-drinking, shape-shifting, etc. 'Evil' 'Creature of the Night.'
>What people may not know is that VAMPYRE also refers to a blood-drinker - but
 ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^
>one that is not immortal, evil or anything else.  Essentially, a vampyre (at
>its most unglamorous translation) is a human that drinks blood.
>
   Hmmmm.  There's apparently a good reason people don't know that.  After
all, Sir Francis Varney in _Varney the Vampyre_ qualified as immortal  --
well, so long as he kept getting exposed to the moon's rays after being
killed for the umpteenth time, anyway.

Cheers -
	Claude
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:35:22 EST
From: Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Coppula's DRACULA

Greetings...
     In his post - xxx says:

     "the book of the movie is nothing like Stockers at all when it comes
      to the style of writing..."

     Be afraid... be very afraid...

     (Of course, I'm going to be one of the first ones in line, practically
  begging to fork over my $5.75 - Of course, one of the main reasons I'm
  going to see it is because I totally lust after Wynona Ryder (sp?) - Hey,
  who could possibly resist the sensuality of Stoker's (sp?) victorian-era,
  sex-is-evil-and-should-be-forbidden Dracula? :>)

     See you all at the movies! - Jonathan
From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: vamp. music
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:04:08 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <oL6TTB4w165w@west.darkside.com> melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar) writes:
>
>    Another source for some pleasant music with a touch of vampiritic 
>lyrics is Stevie Nicks 'The Wild Heart'.    'Nightbird', 'Wild Heart', 
>'Gate & Garden' & 'Beauty & the Beast' are all explicitly vampire songs.  
>The mood of the entire piece is romantic.

Listen to Fade To Black by Metallica... I think it explains it pretty good.

-- 
||--------------------------||                 K E N D /\ L L                ||
|| kendall@cats.ucsc.edu    ||"Don't Let Me Stop Your Great Self-Destruction ||
||\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\||"DIE! If You Want To, You Misguided Martyr!!   ||
============================||"I Wash My Hands Of Your Destruction......     ||
                            ===================================================
From: flyboy@west.darkside.com (Flyboy)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: anne rice
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:12:45 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

dose anyone know if there is, has been, will be a movie of any of the 
vampire chronicals written by anne rice??????
            flyboy
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:58:37 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

kat@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion) writes:

> In article <Bx9DtC.EI8@inews.Intel.COM> bcohen@cad721.intel.com (Benjamin Coh
> 
> >Actually, interest on bank deposits rarely exceeds inflation by more
> >than 2-3 %. This can result in a loss of real wealth after taxes.
> 
> Since when do vampires pay taxes?
> 
       Whenever they interact with legitimate businessfolk & seek to 
buy/sell property, items or other chattel.
From: tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Gifs and vamps
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: tld@cosmos.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore

In article <1992Nov11.105727.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
|> 		2 questions...
|> 		1) To the person who posted the 12-part GIF... usually it's a
|> lot more polite to simply say that you have the GIF and then people can e-mail
|> you privately for it, or to put it on an FTP site. Not everyone has the program
|> to read a GIF, and certainly not everyone wqants something that huge flooding
|> their account from out of nowhere. =)

   OUCH.  Chris, You're right. 
   OK.. any suggestions for an ftp site that I can load it to?  All of
   the ones I know about are *read* protected for their upload areas...

   Viewers:  xv on UNIX; cshow or vpic on MS/DOS...  I think these can
             be obtained from simtel...  Not sure what is used on the
             Amiga/Mac/Dec/Next/brand-x machines...

   My apologies are humbly extended...

   For those who have UNIX or MS-DOS and also have uudecode:

   (1)  Edit the files, removing everything up to each `--- part x of y ---'
        line at the front of the file, and removing everything from each
        `--- end part x of y ---' to the end of the file.
 
   (2)  UNIX:  Assume file names are snack.01 through snack.12.  Enter
        the command:  cat snack* | uudecode
        This will create the snack.gif file...

   (3)  DOS:  Enter the command:
        copy snack.01+snack.02 ... +snack.12 | uudecode
        This will create the snack.gif file on the DOS-based machines.

   I usually use method (1) and download the gif/jpeg/whatever to my PC...

ANYway ... If some kind soul would give me an ftp site for the upload
that allows *read* of uploaded files, I`ll put snack.gif there for your
perusal... in .gif and .jpeg format...  PS:  Please provide the site
address, since quite a few machines' ftp servers are brain dead and do
not understand net/node names...  Thanx in advance!

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