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From: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Motif versions 3.0.2 & 3.1
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:43:09 GMT
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


We had extraordinary problems in supporting frame-X.3.0.2
on OpenWindows2.0 and 3.0. About 10 % of all FrameMaker
sessions were aborted incl. xnews broke down. In the same
configuration incl. the same xresources frame-X.3.1 works
successfully as we know from sunview version.

Does everybody know the (new?) resources in
frame-X.3.1/.fminit2.0/english/xresources? With this
resources it is possible to change every string in
the dialogboxes.
From: dok_hfa@sovb50pki-nbg.philips.de (Hans-Juergen Faerber)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Problems with Paragraph formats.
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:45:11 GMT
Reply-To: dok_hfa@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Communication Systems, Nuremberg, Germany


In article <BxM668.L6H@acsu.buffalo.edu>, bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B) writes:
|> From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
|> Subject: Problems with Paragraph formats.
|> 
|> 
|> Anyone had this problem before?
|> 
|> 	When you specify a format for a paragraph, say you click the "Keep
|> With" option (either Next or Previous) on. Then apply. Then if you don't want
|> it anymore, you can't seem to get rid of it. Any hints?
|> 
|> Sridhar

Maybe. The buttons "Previous" and "Next" have three states: YES, NO and AsIs.
Just thought that your problems result of this unusual feature...

h.-j.

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From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Control file suffix?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:12:28 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <MATSJ.92Nov4102648@Ios.CMD.UU.SE> Mats.Johnson@CMD.UU.SE 
make the inventive suggestion:
>
>How about creating a link named MyBookTOC.frame pointing to
>MyBookTOC.doc?
>--
>Mats Johnson, CMD, Uppsala University, Laegerhyddsvaegen 18, S-752 37 UPPSALA

For many unix apps this would work.  But Frame handles linked
files in such a way that no link will survive the first save.

If you open a file that is a link, and then save it, Frame creates the
new file and writes it -- not as a link, then rm's the old file (the
link), then renames the new file.  So now you have two files instead of
a link and a file.

So if MyBookTOC.frame --> MyBookTOC.doc, the first time a NeXT
user generates the book, there will be two files again and we
will be back to not knowing which is the latest.

Thanks anyway!
  Dave Cortesi
From: perrotta@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Paul Perrotta)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: fooling Frame into monochrome captures on X/Motif
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:54:38 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

In article <rfisel.721473821@aboy rfisel@informix.com (Rick Fisel) writes:

> I have a Sparc IPX with a greyscale monitor, and our products look
> great on the screen, but the captures leave something to be desired;
> on a monochrome monitor I used to get great screen captures. Is there
> a way to fool Frame into capturing in monochrome, or else to fool
> X/Motif and mwm into displaying in mono for Framemaker's benefit?

> -- 
> Rick Fisel (rfisel@informix.com)
> opinionated employee of opinionless
> Informix Software
> I prefer replies by email.

This is not what Rick asked, but I think Rick and others may want to
know what we discovered. (Since Rick's .signature states his
preference for replies by email, I'll send him a copy of this
posting.)

We use FrameMaker 3.1 under X/Motif using mwm on monochrome monitors.
We can get great screen captures, import them by reference, and print
them with our setup.

Recently, a member of our group got a grayscale monitor. She could
capture screens, but could only print them if they were imported by
copying them into the file. The "import by reference" did not work.
Frame's help folks confirmed that on some systems (but not necessarily
on all), this is the case. 

By the way, screens captured on a color terminal behaved as expected:
they could be imported by reference and would print correctly. Only
grayscale captures had the problem.

If I were using a grayscale monitor, I would test this capability
*before* building an entire book and trying to print.

-Paul






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From: div@NAD.3Com.COM (Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Frame on Microsoft Windows 3.0 - Need Help
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:54:01 GMT
Reply-To: div@NAD.3Com.COM
Organization: 3Com Corp

I am trying to install Frame on MSWindows 3.0 using a laptop with 11MB of disk
space. Frame took almost 9+ MB of space for just the basic program and Templates.
After installation when I invoke Frame the C drive (HardDisk) chugs along for a
long period of time and then the ERROR message "Unrecoverable Application Error"
shows up. After exiting Frame Windows shows up "An UAE has occured". Has anyone 
out there installed Frame with limited disk space and been successfull ? If I
install MSWin3.1 would my problem go away. I have not installed MSWin 3.1 as I
read somewhere that it is a bigger Memory Hog than 3.0. Is this true ?

Looking for ideas

---Dinesh
===============================================================================
Dinesh Venkatachalam					div@nad.3com.com
3COM Corporation
(408)-764-5498
===============================================================================
From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Newsgroups: cmu.cs.framemaker,comp.text.frame
Subject: RESOLUTION: Re: Keyboard commands in the para format box
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:15:24 GMT
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_


In article <1992Nov11.134125.20716@sei.cmu.edu>, bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas) writes:
|> 
|> I'm running 3.1X on a Sun4.
|> 
|> Very often when I use keyboard commands (ctrl-v, esc-v) to
|> scroll through the Paragraph Format window, when I pass over
|> the Numbering sheet, although I've not made ANY changes to
|> that sheet (or any of the surrounding sheets a lot of the
|> time), FM prompts me as to whether the changes should be
|> applied or not before moving me from the Numbering sheet onto
|> the next (or previous) sheet.


Thanks to Alan Koch for discovering the cause of this problem:

>After some investigation we have discovered that this ALWAYS happens when:
>1.  There is an autonumber format displayed AND
>2.  The format includes any building block (\t, \b, or anything in <>'s), AND
>3.  The format was defined in FrameMaker 2, AND
>4.  The Numbering Property Sheet for that paragraph has never been applied
>    under FrameMaker 3.

>If you answer "Apply" to the dialog, it will never happen on that paragraph
>again.  

>If you save an offending document to MIF, then open the MIF, this STILL
>happens, so I examined the MIF and discovered a difference between the way
>FrameMaker 2 and 3 specify autonumbers.  (See below.)  Clearly, it is this
>difference which is causing the problem.

== Paragraph that the Numbering Property Sheet does NOT complain about =======
 <Para 
  <PgfTag `bu'>
  <Pgf 
   <PgfNumFormat `B:n\t'>
  > # end of Pgf
  <PgfNumString `n\t'>
  <ParaLine 
   <String `Start FrameMaker.'>
  >
 > # end of Para
== Paragraph that the Numbering Property Sheet DOES complain about ===========
 <Para 
  <PgfTag `bu'>
  <PgfNumString `n\t'>
  <ParaLine 
   <String `Move FrameMaker windows.'>
  >
 > # end of Para
== End of samples ============================================================






Barbara Zayas				Software Engineering Institute
Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
bjz@sei.cmu.edu				(412) 268-6378
From: halberst@world.std.com (jerry halberstadt)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Chesire cat graphics (appear and disappear)
Summary: Graphic images not well behaved: why?
Keywords: windows, graphics
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:17:38 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Working in Frame 3.0 on a 486 PC running Windows 3.1.

I import a graphic file(s). The file imports as a graphic, displays, and
prints. Later it neither displays nor prints. If I try to import it again,
I get an error message "Can't display some imported graphics." Sometimes if
this happens and I exit frame and re-enter Frame the problem is resolved,
sometimes not. It happens even if I have not changed that particular
graphic in any way. It is unstable, unpredictable, and maddening.
Particularly because I am not only trying to complete a project, but I have
received some scanned graphics from a service bureau and I can't be sure
which of the new ones may be defective (they weren't being saved in proper
.tif format) and which ones are OK but Frame ain't behaving. Limiting my
problem to known *good* files, I print it and return to it and it won't
reappear. Nothing like this is suggested by the documentation.

Does anyone else have this awful experience? Any ways to further diagnose
it? 

Thanking you all in advance....


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rn11195@medtronic.COM (Robert Nehls)
Subject: Hypertext Question
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:29:22 GMT



I'm new to using hypertext.  The problem that I'm having is this.  When
defining the text for a popup on the reference pace, if I use a different
character format (e.g. symbol format instead of times) when the popup
appears in the document, it reverts to the format that the document is
written in (in this case that would be times).  Needless to say this ruins
the looks of the popup.  Is there any way of avoiding this?  Any help would
be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
--

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rn11195@sage.medtronic.com            (612)574-8559

Working Towards Full Life...
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Frame on PC's (MS Windows)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Dinesh Venkatachalam x5498 (div@NAD.3Com.COM) wrote:

> Is there any way similar to Frame on SUN to print the output to a postscript
> file from the Menu command on the PC. I can get it only to print to a printer.

Have Win31 do it. Create a printer of type FILE in the PrintManager menus.
I haven't tried it myself, but I see the options there.  Presumably you
can create two, and capture both PCL and PostScript output in files.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: gutzmann@acri.fr (Kurt Gutzmann)
Subject: Re: Variables in paragraph autonumbering
Reply-To: gutzmann@acri.fr
Organization: Advanced Computer Research Institute
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:57:00 GMT

In article 094757SLYNENSK@ESOC.BITNET, SLYNENSK@ESOC.BITNET () writes:
>I want to be able to do the following:
>
>....
>            1  MyChapter                   (tag: Heading)
>               ..............
>               ...........
>
>  MyChapter-1  A requirement .....         (tag: Requirement)
>               .......
>  MyChapter-2  Another Requirement .....
>               .......
>
>               ....................
>               .......... .......
>.....
>
>However, I found no way to pick up the name of the heading in the
>automatic numbering definition for the requirement. Ideally, I
>would have specified it as:
>
>R:\t<$paratext&Headinga>-<n+>\t
>

Yer right, it's tedious.  I am also looking for some fine solution to this
feature.  Apparently, variable definitions may only be simple (no compound
defns using other variables), except for system-variables.  That is, you
can use a system variable in the definition of a user variable, but not
a user-var to define another user-var.  

These same concepts seem to apply to the use of vars in autonumber tags.
Requirements documents are an excellent testing ground for these bugs/features.
Keep me posted on your progress.  Good luck.


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Subject: Re: Chapter numbering in books
Reply-To: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 20:55:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.114838.25647@acri.fr> gutzmann@acri.fr writes:
>In article 13394@etrog.se.citri.edu.au, isaac@etrog.se.citri.edu.au (Isaac Balbin) writes:
>>Does anyone have any idea why the self-same definition of a chapter heading
>>all of a sudden stops incrementing at chapter 3?
>
>This problem happens when the flow name in your weirdo chapter 3 is
>different from the the flow names of Chs1-2.  

Also make sure that for each master page in the same flow, that
you have Autoconnect turned on.


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Re: Page numbering in generated files
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:04:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.142258.11713@den.mmc.com> mwightma@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com (Mike Wightman) writes:
>In article <GERRY.92Nov6163012@onion.cmu.edu>, gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
>|> Today, I started what will be a large document.  I decided that this
>|> document will be numbered on a per chapter basis, like the FrameMaker
>|> manuals, you know, 1-1, 1-2, ..., 2-1, 2-2...
>|> 
>|> So, I set up a running header/footer and the page numbers appeared
>|> properly.  I created a book file and hey!  it still worked properly.
>|> Then, I set up the TOC file.  To make a long story short, it appears
>|> that to get the chapter number to preceed the page number in the TOC
>|> file (and all other generated files), you have to manually insert the
>|> chapter number in the file setup dialog window (from the book file).
>
>No, you do not have to insert the chapters manually.  In the book file,
>Go to each section and use Set Up File (under the File heading in the
>book).  This will allow you to restart page numbering, paragraph numbering
>and also allow you to include prefix and suffixes to the page numbering in
>generated files.
>
>So for section 2, you would place "2-" in the prefix.

But this is still a manual process in that each time the
chapter numbering changes, the individual chapter prefixes
must updated (by hand) the set up file window from the book.
You'll need to do this for EACH chapter that's affected by
the reordering or addition/deletion of new/existing chapters.



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Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Ray Zimmerman <Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu>
Subject: Mac v3.0.1 and RTF export !?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71EBA6F0C01E0B5@ziklag.ee.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16: 47:59 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rz10@cornell.edu
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:44:00 GMT

I just read today in MacWeek that Frame has released version 3.0.1 for 
the Mac, which is supposed to fix the cut/copy bug.  It is also supposed
to included an RTF *export* filter!  The article states that "Frame's 
current set of import filters and the new RTF Export Utility are 
available free from on-line services."

Does anyone know where I can get this RTF filter?  Has anyone received 
information from Frame about the upgrade?

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From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Xdefaults for placement of frame startup window
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:15:13 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
Originator: bsridhar@mordred.eng.buffalo.edu


In article <BxKGx2.CKH@acsu.buffalo.edu>, bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B) writes:
>
>I have a problem with defining the geometry for the initial startup window that
>pops up when frame is started. I am running frame3.1x on X11R5 with twm using
>Sun OS 4.1.2 . When I specify the geometry thus:
>
>	Maker.makerkit.geometry:        322x66+831+140
>
>It doesn't work. Instead I get the dotted outline which I have to place myself.
>Any solutions?
>
>Sridhar
>

I thank all those who took some time to reply to my post. I will post one of
the methods that work. Remember this is for twm (in others like mwm etc. the
problem can be solved differently)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
You need a variable UsePPosition in your .twmrc. Here is what manual
has to say about it:

     UsePPosition string
             This variable specifies whether or  not  twm  should
             honor program-requested locations (given by the PPo-
             sition flag in the WM_NORMAL_HINTS property) in  the
             absence  of a user-specified position.  The argument
             string may have one of  three  values:   "off"  (the
             default)  indicating  that  twm  should  ignore  the
             program-supplied position, "on" indicating that  the
             position  should  be used, and "non-zero" indicating
             that the position should used if it  is  other  than
             (0,0).   The  latter  option is for working around a
             bug in older toolkits.

ie. I have this line in my .twmrc:

        UsePPosition    "on"

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks once again,

Sridhar
 
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Page numbering in generated files
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:15:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.223804.6077@cbfsb.cb.att.com> djd@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.j.daulton) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.181316.27433@informix.com> robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
>
>>This is a basic book-making capability that is, indeed, missing in Frame.
>>
>>The closest thing to a workaround that I know of is to save the book file
>>as a mif and use a text-editor to change the setup information. This
>>is much faster than going through the Setup dialog box which has to be
>>CLOSED AND REOPENED FOR EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER WHOSE SETUP YOU WANT TO
>>CHANGE! (are you there, Frame?)
>
>This drives me crazy too.  The design solution seems so apparent.  
>We need a book-wide setup file, something like this:
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>|                            ------  ----------                       |
>|                            | OK |  | Cancel |                       |
>|                            ------  ----------                       |
>|---------------------------------------------------------------------k-
>| chapter  starting    page       para       prefix  suffix  (etc.)   |
>|        page side   numbering  numbering                             |
>|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
>| xTOC.doc   right  read frm file   continue                  etc     |
>| xLOF.doc   right      continue    continue                  etc     |
>| xLOT.doc   right      continue    continue                  etc     |
>| 01x.doc    right       restart    continue   1-             etc     |
>| 02x.doc    right       restart    continue   2-             etc     |
>| 03x.doc    right       restart    continue   3-             etc     |
>| 04x.doc    right       restart    continue   4-             etc     |
>|   etc.                                                              |
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Has anyone suggested this yet, and if not, how do I go about doing it?
>

Call Frame tech support and ask them for an enhancement request. I
believe they have an 800 number (which, of course, I can't put my
hands on right now!)...



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From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: printer options
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:20:51 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1730@scax18.pki-nbg.philips.de>, pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (Achim Friedrichs) writes:
 
|> Does anybody knows the xresources/.Xdefaults entries to force 
|> printer settings, specially for "last sheet first".
|> (frame-X.3.1)

The correct answer is: 

Maker.lastPageFirst: false

But it doesn't match book-files. To save a document or book in
MIF format means to loose the printer settings (saved in the
binary format). During MIF to binary conversion the FrameMaker
adds the default settings. Maker.lastPageFirst: false doesn't
match book files. Does anybody know the entrie for books?

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun ))
Subject: Re: Problems with Paragraph formats.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:02:28 GMT


>|> From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
>|> Subject: Problems with Paragraph formats.
>|> 
>|> Anyone had this problem before?
>|> 
>|> 	When you specify a format for a paragraph, say you click the "Keep
>|> With" option (either Next or Previous) on. Then apply. Then if you don't want
>|> it anymore, you can't seem to get rid of it. Any hints?
>|> 
>|> Sridhar

Well, it works OK on my HP730.  I see two buttons for the "Keep With" option
which leads to 4 distinct possibilities.

With Next=Off and Previous=Off, it won't be kept with either.

With Next=Off and Previous=On, it will be kept with the previous paragraph.

With Next=On and Previous=Off, it will be kept with the next paragraph.

With Next=On and Previous=On, it will be kept with both paragraphs.


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