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From: imes@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Glen Mason to Ohio State?
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:35:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov10.223532.5626
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <DOEL.92Nov10113948@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:

>This leads me to wonder.  How is the mood in Columbus right now regarding
>Cooper?  Are people still all over his case or are they just waiting with
>bated breath for the next loss so they can scream bloody murder once more?
>I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
>lay off his case for awhile.

Personally, and I still don't believe I'm saying this, but Cooper coached a
decent game Saturday.  For the first time, he was making smart plays, like 
starting the game with a pass from the OSU-4yd line.  Totally unexpected, and
it worked.  For the first time since I've been a Buckeye, I'm actually hoping
Cooper will stay since I can finally see some pattern to his coaching.  Having
a coach who you know is going to make good plays is a good quality and now that
I've finally seen some mastery of OSU coaching, I'm for Cooper's tenure.

Couple this with the fact that even if he does screw up again, we can't afford
to fire him, as that would cost us mega-$$$$$ (we're already paying our former
offensive coordinator Elliott Uzelac some ridiculous amount of money for our
termination of his contract).

This is just my opinion though.  The media here is really, and I mean REALLY,
ragging him hard.  Before Saturday's game, rumors flew around stating that he
would resign or that the OSU board of Trustees was going to fire him.  Then he
talked to the press and said that the rumors are totally untrue and blasted the
press for letting something like that propagate to the point which it did.
Later, OSU president E. Gordon Gee backed up Cooper's statement, but added that
he'll make an assessment after the Michigan game.

That's my $0.02...
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Jeffrey Imes                                            imes@cis.ohio-state.edu
CIS Undergraduate Student	                 "The brain doesn't need blood,
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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl Options
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:14:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.181427.929
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:

>But the real question is - do you know when the UDub-Miami series is
>going to be played ?

'94 in Coral Gables.  '98 in Seattle.  '01 and '02 are another home and
home series, but I'm not sure which game is played here and which game is
played there.

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: MARCHING BAND CRAP
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:56:02 GMT

I don't know why I am posting this, but I am sick and tired of all the 
discussion about marching bands.

Trojan Marching Band = BEST marching band in L.A. and WORST marching band in
                       the world.

Stanford Marching Band = MOST creative band in the world and most trouble-
                         making band in the PAC-10.

-Behzad



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From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: Re: For sale Stanford-Washington football ticket CHEAP !
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 05:13:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.222356.2333@EE.Stanford.EDU> hadar@boreas.Stanford.EDU (Hadar Avi-Itzhak) writes:
>I have an extra ticket for the game on Saturday, Nov. 14 at the Stanford
>Stadium. 
>Student Section !
>
>hadar@boreas.stanford.edu
>
>

I'll trade you for two Notre Dame vs. Army on Fri. Oct. 30 !!!



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From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Bowl Options (was Re: Open Question to Miami fans)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:51:53 GMT

elliott@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
>crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>>Here's an interesting scenario which could happen still.  As of the time
>>I'm posting this, the Pac Ten has not yet announced any penalties against
>>the UW for the Hobert violation.  One penalty that has been discussed is
>>forfiture of just the Stanford game, since some papers allege that head
>>coach Don James was aware of Hobert's loan before the Stanford game (although
>>both Don James and Athletic Director Barbara Hedges both deny this).  If
>>the Pac Ten does make UW forfeit this game, then Washington would no longer
>>be in the driver's seat for the Rose Bowl, that honor would belong to 
>>Stanford.  In addition, Arizona also would be ahead of UW in the standings.
>>That would leave Washington as Bowl Coalition material. Miami would still
>>probably meet either Alabama or Texas A&M if one of those teams remains
>>undefeated.  Should they falter (or the Canes drop a game to Syracuse),
>>it would really leave open a Miami - UW Fiesta Bowl matchup (although it
>>wouldn't by any stretch be for the MNC from UW's point of view).
>>
>>Just a thought (that will probably be moot when the Pac Ten releases their
>>findings today).
>
>It seems like if they knew about it before the Stanford game, then ALL of
>their games afterwards should also be forfeited if any -- not just Stanford.

This is true.  All games Hobert played in after the coaching staff found
out about the loan should be forfeited.

>I guess in that case, UW would have a losing record or close to it and if
>they planned ahead of time could have been locked into the Blockbuster Bowl.

Here is where your handy-dandy pocket schedule should pop out and tell you
that the Stanford contest was played on October 31.  Hmm, seeing as how
the story broke in the press on November 2nd or thereabouts and Hobert was
suspended and didn't play in the Arizona game (which the Huskies lost in
any case).  Hence your assertion, while correct, is meaningless.  There are
no other games in which Hobert played after the Stanford game.

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Udub??  What is a "udub"???
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:20:54 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov11.071608.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.151715.7543@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>> BTW is this the reason Arizona kicked Udubs ASS this weekend? UW is the best
                                        ^^^^^

>Ok, we learned what a "t-sip" was a few months ago, what the heck does
>"udub" mean??  I know it is a some sort of Washington put-down, but
>where/how did it originate?

It is not a putdown, just the way you pronounce `UW.'  Husky fans
and foes alike in Washington and elsewhere routinely use this 
informal shorthand.  It is no putdown.

>Just curious.....
>
>-- 
>David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 


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From: malhotra@aludra.usc.edu (Arvind Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: bowl games
Date: 11 Nov 1992 13:25:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
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can anyone please post the various bowl games, their location nad scheduled
dates.
thanx

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From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: texas football
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:13:17 GMT


In article <1992Nov6.222944.26171@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>>>  Well, we ARE working on it.  I believe Colorado, OU, ND, and some others are
>>>listed on future schedules...not all in one year though!  It's not like you
>>>can schedule these games just 1 year in advance...
>>>
>>
>>these look like good matchups for a&m.
>>
>
>I'm pretty sure Texas and ND play two games in the mid 90s, but I don't
>think there are any games scheduled between ND and A&M.
>
WRONG! Thanx for playing...

The ND-A&M games are tentatively scheduled for 1999 and 2000.  I think
the only thing that could really affect them is conference re-alignments.

cmuck


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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: MAC preview for November 7, 1992
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:41:56 GMT

  Michael Fath asks:

>Question:  I thought the MAC winner went to Fresno for the California (Raisin)
>Bowl.  At least they have been for awhile.  What gives?

     The Raisin Bowl was left out in the sun too long and withered away. It has
been replaced by the Silver Bowl, which is played in Las Vegas.

                                     Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: What's up with Johnny Majors?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:00:59 GMT

In article <9587@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)  
writes:
> 
>    Can anybody down there in Tennessee provide me some more info about
> the Johnny Majors situation?  Last night's Pittsburgh TV news
> reported that Johnny was dropping hints that if he's railroaded out of
> Tenn, he'd be interested in returning to Pitt.

WTEM Radio in Washington this morning reported that the final two
years of Major's contract would be bought out at the end of the
season.  Nothing was mentioned of Pitt, but given his health problems
I'd think he'd be foolish to return to the rigors of coaching.

Especially during the buyout.

OD
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From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: I will stand corrected on DIV II schools
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:23:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.


If I am wrong about Mich,Miami,BAMA plating DIV II schools and still being ranked
while Southern Miss plays only Division I schools, I retract my whine.

If not, well ... Nuff said.


I repeat

Go Eagles, Beat VA Tech!!!

Huett Bishop
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Sunday morning QB
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:10:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



o I will make Arizona at least a 3 point favorite on a neutral field
  against *any* team in college football.

o Nice to see the SMU seniors beat up on Houston to avenge their 
  93-21 loss during their freshman year.

o San Diego St U has the *worst* coaching staff in the nation. The 
  offense is so predictable, the defense can't tackle anybody, they
  are fundamentally unsound in every basic area of the game, and the play
  calling is truly awful. They have all the pieces for a open, attack 
  oriented offense, they have RB Faulk, WR Scott, QB Lowery, and a decent
  line, and they score 6 pts against the #85 defense in the country.

o Ever watch a San Diego St U offense? Here is how to read pass/run.
  If Faulk lines up 6 yds behind the line, he runs with the ball.
  If Faulk lines up 3 yds behind the line, they pass the football.

o After all that, SDSU still controls it's destiny to the Holiday Bowl.
  They have to beat Hawaii and Fresno St at home in the next 2 weeks.

o Whathisname [who called the SDSU-Wyoming game on ABC] is the worst
  play-by-play man in football. He puts you to sleep quicker than 
  you can say Norm-Hitzhes-is-a-moron.

o Boston College had the college football version of 'stage fright'.

_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: Nebraska defeats Colorado
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:01:26 GMT

--
Hi Njan bud! How ya doin?

>But, this isn't over yet... You folks will be coming to town next year...
>And it won't be just goalposts we will be tearing down.

One thing you guys are not thinking about: Sure CU WILL get better, I do not
doubt that. But what you are not considering is that Frazier is a frosh, Jones
and Brown are Sohp's and the Huskers just keep bringing out new generations of
lineman generation after generation. Nebraska is going to get better also,
especially WHEN the tone up the passing game with "Smokin" Tommy Frazier.

Sooooo, while next year will be a much better game you have no sure thing.

Huskers are BACK !!!

Husker Henderson

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From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: How did the Illini choke?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:41:15 GMT

fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>In article <Bx5H9t.J6F@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Jeff Beckham writes:

>That's funny...I was at the game too, and sat right in front of that last
>TD (maybe we sat next to each other... :) ), and all I saw was the NU guy

I doubt it, I'm in the band.

>make a diving catch with the Illinois guy right on top of him.  In fact, I
>saw three total catches like that during that last drive.  Yes, Illinois
>made many mistakes during the game (I especially liked how the scoreboard
>would say "oops" whenever the Illini messed up), but their team wasn't the
>only reason that NU won.

Yes, 3 diving cathces were made... but nothing spectacular about it!!!  We 
simply have no secondary!  My high school football team probably could have run
the same plays and scored.  It was NOT wonderful playing on the part of NU that
won the game... simply, a very bad secondary.


  			   	   --------------------------------------------
								  Jeff Beckham
						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 					 	  Computer Science/Mathematics
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Re: Glen Mason
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:53:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.153611.21421@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>  Scott Davis writes:
>
>>First, Alan already mentioned about Mason being gone.  If the OhioSt

I don't want to add fuel to speculation about Glen Mason and Ohio State,
but I do have some honest questions about this guy that so many people
in Columbus are talking about these days:

* What is his overall record at Kansas (each year, if you know it)?

* I know that he was an Ohio State assistant between '78 and '85 - what
  is his other experience?

* Where is he from (i.e. is he an Ohio native)?

* How do Kansas folks and Big-8 followers feel about him and what he's
  done with the Kansas program?

* What type of personality does he exhibit, i.e. is he full of rhetoric,
  does he answer questions in a seemingly honest manner, is he a snake-oil
  salesman (ala Hayden Fry), does he make jokes, is he Mr. Gruff (ala
  Earle Bruce), etc.

Thanks -

david
From: rszczerb@michaelangelo.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:46:26 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <BxMJuw.KAq@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>
>Let's see how the Leprechauns do this week with Penn State.   But, then
>Notre Dames gets a Orange, Cotton, Fiesta or Sugar bowl game, if they lose
>to both PSU and USC.  Why do they even keep score, the whole season is 
>pre-season for Notre Dame.   Notre Dame a major conference of one team. 
>
>No wonder ND plays for a tie.
>
>

Ah Jason, it's great to see that Miami witt back on the net again.
After you lose to Syracuse, I wonder if the CANES will have the guts
to leave the friendly confines of the Orange Bowl and play the Irish
in the Fiesta Bowl?

		- rob
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From: Mike@Mail.Trincoll.Edu (Hammer)
Subject: Texas A&M-Houston, Football???
Keywords: A&M, Aggie, Cougar, SWC
Organization: TC
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:39:42 GMT

Did anyone else have the misfortune of watching that exhibition
on ESPN last night?  4+ hours of horrendous coaching, tackling, 
and even refereeing.  High How far the once mighty SWC has fallen.
  
What happened to that vaunted Aggie defense?  They gave up 
450+ yds to a Houston team that managed 14 pts against SMU
and looked thoroughly confused doing so.   The tackling was awful 
on both sides.

R.C. Slocum did his VERY best Jerry Burns (Ex-Viking Coach) 
impersonation, often looking disoriented and calling some 
dubious plays.

Throwing the ball in the last 4 minutes with a tenuous 8 point 
lead and that heralded running attack?  The clock was stopped twice 
and Pullig was intercepted once with about 2 minutes left.
The Aggies were lucky Klingler and Co finally ran out of gas.

Finally, what about that officiating!  Approximately 25 penalties
and 2 horrendous calls.  One with the Aggies up 14 with 7 minutes
left.  The Houston receiver clearly steps out of bounds right in 
front of an official.  Aggie defense gives up pursuit, but no call
made.  The receiver continues to end zone (70+ yds) and is given 
a TD.   The 2nd call was near the Cougar goal line 3 plays later.
RB Thomas (i believe) somersaults at the 1 and is pushed back to
the 2.  Goal judge rules TD!  Not even close!

Miami should committ to the Cotton Bowl ASAP!  

A&M is certain fodder fo another mythical championship.
From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: What's up with Johnny Majors?
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:44:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu


   Can anybody down there in Tennessee provide me some more info about
the Johnny Majors situation?  Last night's Pittsburgh TV news
reported that Johnny was dropping hints that if he's railroaded out of
Tenn, he'd be interested in returning to Pitt.

   Before you tell me to check the local papers, let me remind you that
the Pittsburgh newspapers have been on strike for 6 months.  One slight
advantage of this - Pitt Head Coach Paul Hackett certainly can't blame his
problems on any of those unemployed acid-breath columnists!

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: Re: Brooks for Heisman
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:43:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.041320.22830@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@neumann.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>If the Heisman is really supposed to be given for an individual's
>performance during a season, then Reggie Brooks definitely has
>to be considered among the front runners.
>
>He's got 1038 yards on 125 carries for an incredible 
>season average of 8.3 yards per carry.  In comparison,
>Faulk has 6.5 yards/carry and Hearst has 7.9 yards/carrie.
>Brooks also has 10 touchdowns.
>
>On top of all this, he posted these numbers while having to
>split time with All American Candidate Jerome Bettis and
>other Irish backs.  He's the first Irish back to gain
>1000+ yards in the Lou Holtz era.
>
>I'd like to hear some other opinions on this.
>
>		- Rob
>
>
>

Of course, you've jinxed him now.  Penn State and USC will hold him to
almost nothing, and the Heisman will go to someone else.

-- 
Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 282-6699
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