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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:40:03 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?

>What is the program on just before startrek the last couple of weeks?
>There was some guy selling a small KU only system form $450, then some
>silver dimes, then he was suddenly (in the middle of a sentence) replaced
>by the StarTrek slate.  The ST Slate has changed its appearance lately too.


Bargain Barry.  That KU system is the same one the Chinese folks on the net
are buying for $299.

NOBODY who sells stuff on satellite video REALLY has low prices.  The time is
too expensive.

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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:15:58 GMT
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Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

I'm in Rochester, Mn and have a 10' Orbitron and Drake 1524. Over the past month
or so I can't say that I've seen any difference in the video quality on T1 - it
got a little better since I re-aligned my dish. The audio is about the same
also - with the exception of last weeks episode (Rascals). The audio on 6.8
was "scratchy" in places. I know that Gary mentioned on FNL that it looks to him
like the audio is off frequency - now somewhere around 6.76?/6.2. Perhaps he can
comment.

Bob
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You are in a maze of twisty little #ifdef's, all alike.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:34:45 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: T1 out of fuel??? I thought...

>There have been a few postings stating that T1 was out of station
>keeping fuel.

>I thought that when a satellite was almost out of station keeping
>fuel, that they used the remaining fuel to push it into a HIGH
>parking orbit (to push it out of the way for it's replacement, and
>to keep it from crashing into other operational sats)  (also to
>allow for the day when we might want to try to retrieve them and
>re-fuel them).

>If it is out of fuel, why wasn't it pushed into the higher orbit
>and made inactive like the rest?


This is a technicality.  THERE IS enough fuel remaining to kick it up to
higher orbit, there is NONE left to do any course corrections.

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From: hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX))
Subject: Re: Cantonese language broadcasts on satellite
Keywords: cantonese satellite
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:36:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.214306.6030@unlv.edu> robert@cs.unlv.edu (Robert Cray) writes:
>I am interested in receiving broadcasts from Hong Kong, or at least
>in Cantonese.  Is it possible to receive anything from Hong Kong in
>the western United States?

There is one service called The North American Chinese TV Network (or
similar) and it is located on Satcom K2.  There is one audio carrier
for Mandarin and another for Cantonese.

I have received this service with perfect reception in Northern California.

My dish system was designed for the Asian community here in North America.
It consists of a 3 foot offset fed dish, a 1.1 db noise/50 db gain LNB,
and a Pansat 1000 receiver.  You can get all of this (including cabling
and feedhorn) for $300 at the right places.  I'm not Asian myself but it
is a nice system for scanning the skies.
					-Harold
From: mikec@tivoli.com (Michael Callahan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Need Pointers on buying a Satellite System
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:11:22 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX


I am trying to buy a satellite system, and I would like to have some advice
on the components:

1. Dish:
	I live in central TX, so I assume that a 10' dish should work well,
	or would I do better to get a 12' dish?

	I like the apparent sturdiness of perforated aluminum vs. mesh, is
	perforated aluminum such as the Weingard Pinacle (sp?) a better/worse
	than a Orbitron 10' mesh unit?

2. LNB:
	I assume 25 degree K for C band is the one to get, but do different
	brands of LNBs have different qualities?

	I also assume that a .7dB Ku band is the best, but also do brands make
	a difference

3. Feedhorn:
	Is a dual C/Ku the type to get, I think the most common one I have
	seen is the CoRoter II

4. Receiver:
	Here is where I have the real problem.  I have seen positive postings
	on the Drake 1524 and the Monteray 90.  Is there an opinion, or is
	it a religious issue about who has the best picture/features/etc?


	Thanks,

	Mike
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:05:19 MST
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Green sheets gone?
              4:41pm)

 Gee - I kind of thought with Shaun gone it might fold.  It certainly seemed
 to be one person operation.

 Not to be ghoulish, but if anyone hears of them doing some kind of shut-down
 sale, I'd be real interested...

- Bob Wier

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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:15:41 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Howeird Stern confirmed SEDAT Channel

>Well, it's confirmed.  It has moved to SEDAT.  Stern can be heard on C5,
>Transponder 23, Channel 15.

It was confirmed when I first reported it two weeks ago.  I got the info from
an anonymous board operator at one of the Stern stations.  I understand they
were ALL fined, though the L.A. station received a second and LARGER fine
just recently because Stern said he was going to strip and rape a DJ (whom he
mentioned by name) at a competing station.  What do you wanna bet the STATION
submitted the complaint to the FCC (themselves or by proxy)...

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:52:42 CST
From:         Charles <CNORRIS@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Schematics

Hello again, Last week I asked if anyoneneeded info on where to
get schematics for vcII and +, There seems to be some misunderstanding,
as to what is being offerd....As I said earlier, I do not know these
people or their reputation, and are not associated with them,  I just
have the address which is ...Cabletronics Box 30502cs, Bethesda Md.
20824send 16.95 plu $2 shippping and handling for vcII and $20 for
the VcII+ to the above address, and please specify which!
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:56:11 CST
From:         Larry Peterson <CC38@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Problem (HELP)

I have seen on some of the older systems that if you program your
satellites from west to east the pulses are not quite correct.

But if you program from East to West then there is no problem.
Maybe it is just the gears and the way they mesh.
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From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Cable rereg affect sat tv?
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:00:05 GMT

Now that the cable re-reg passed, what should happen to sat tv
rates?  Will rates finally become competitive?  Also, I currently
shopping for a VCIIRS + programming package.  Would it be wiser to hold off
in hopes of lower rates, or is that a pipe dream?  Is the Link-a-Bit decoder
ready for production?  I am assuming that I can buy legal programming for it?


David
dleon@seas.smu.edu

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:32:35 -0500
From:         Elmer Beachley <etb@CS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: NTU Courses

rao:

ntu is on gstar-1 transp. 8 and is digitally compressed (essentially
scrambled unless you can afford their decoder)

elmer etb@cs.pitt.edu
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:38:00 CST
From:         "I'D RATHER BE FISHING THAN ON THE VAX" <REDLCW@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      More Feeds for Robert Smathers

        I tried to send this info directly but it bounced.
Robert,
  Your Wild Feed listing is Great......Your information has been very helpful.
Just a suggestion,  for the feeds such as Sundays 'Infatuation, Peoples Court,
and The Judge wouldn't it be easier to list them like this
Infatuation (5), Peoples Court (5), The Judge (3), Ect.?  Since the programs
have a slate indicating the next feed of the program as you well know.  With
some programs like Arsenio Hall that are in the same time slot but on two
different transponders or satellites how about a 10p T1/9-G6/21 format?
  The feeds I have observed this week listed as UNV and others.
Monday
American Detective      12n     T1/13   M
Quantum Leap            1p      T1/13   M
Unsolved Mysteries      5p      T1/18   M

Thursday
Simpsons                2:30p   E2/12   H
LA Law                  4p      E2/12   H
PCTV                    4p      G6/23   H UNV This was on the slate 10:00 T1/19
Bob (Newhart)           5:30p   T1/13   H
DuckTales               6:30p   T1/17   H
Mash                    6:30p   T1/21   H
Mash                    7:00p   T1/21   H
The Montel Williams Show7:00p   T1/1    H
Sweating Bullets        7:30p   T1/21   H
Movie Feed              7:30p   T1/5    H   (Tribune Entertainment)
PCTV                    10:00   T1/19   H
Baywatch                10:30   T1/21   H
Bryon Allen Show        11:00   T1-15   H
Golden Palace           11:30   T1/17   H
Mash                    11:30   T1/21   H

Friday
Talespin                12m     T1/17   F
Movie Greats Network    12:30a  T1/21   F
Arsenio Hall            12:30a  T1/9    F

Sunday
60 Minutes              5:00p   E2/12   Su

Feeds not found but on the wild feed listing;
Thursday
Cheers                  1:30p   E2/12   H
Love Connection         6:30p   T1/3    H
Sweating Bullets        6:30p   T1/21   H
Love Connection         7:00p   T1/3    H

                                                        For Your Information
                                                        Ross E. Doyle
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Xref: sparky rec.video.satellite:6150 rec.radio.shortwave:7902
From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio & TV in Czechoslovakia (my impressions during my vacation)
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:51:20 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels) writes:

>ON 999 Khz and occasionly on 900kHz I noted heavy
>jamming. I don't know where it came from, maybe Jugoslavia or Ukraine?

That jamming comes from Romania.  On 999 kHz operates Radio Pridnestroviye
in Grigoriopol which is in the Dnestr region.  This is the Russian part
of the Republic of Moldova which has declared independence from Moldova.
Russians are majority in this part of Moldova.  However, nobody has
recognized the independence of Dnestr.

This transmitter once belonged to the national radio&tv of Moldova but
Russians have taken it over as it is located in the Dnestr region.  The
transmitter is now broadcasting propaganda hostile to the present govern-
ment of Moldova which has declared that Moldova should be part of Romania.
Russians in Moldova bitterly oppose this.

The jammer on 999 kHz must be located in Romania.  Another jammer can be
heard on 1449 kHz which is the other channel of Radio Pridnestroviye.
Both stations can be heard daily in Scandinavia.  I have concluded that
these jammers are in Romania because the sound or noise they create is
different from the noise of the jammers formerly used in the USSR.

#Jorma Mantyla
#Univ. of Tampere
#Finland
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From: neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal)
Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:31:25 GMT

zimm@condor.navsses.navy.mil writes:

>>>THE NEW CODES WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON....

>So, what you're saying is that it's ok to steal, cheat, rob, and be
>generally dishonorable.  Scrambling is (essentially) a protection of
>copyright, and as a writer and information services vendor I can only
>say that I disagree.  If someone has a problem with GI, that's understandable.
>I dislike monopolies too.  But protection of intellectual property is a 
>perfectly valid exercise.  I am apalled and quite irritated to see someone
>using the Internet to espouse an illegal and immoral activity.

>It might not be a crime in Mexico, but it is in the U.S., and this
>kind of thing is...unwelcome...on the net.  Your account should be
>yanked, and the activity that issued it to you should be brought 
>under scrutiny by network administration to answer why you were
>granted access in the first place.

>If no one else does, I'll submit a complaint myself.  
>   
>   Dave

As long as he doesn't distribute the codes themselfves over the net, he has
broken no laws.  Just what is it you are gonna complain about, an unpopular
opinion?  Freedom of speech and expression of various points of view is
what the net is all about.  
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From: mam28@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Information for Janiel Stereo Processor
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:28:59 GMT

In article <CNTS12.55.0@email.mot.com> CNTS12@email.mot.com (Mike Stevens) writes:
>I recently acquired a Janiel from Shop at Home and have a couple of
>questions:
>
>3.  As a new user to internet I have noticed previous mention of the
>    Janiel but no in depth information.  Any information available?
>
   Me too!  I would also like to know how to contact Shop at Home.

Thanks

Mike
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:04:50 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Buying Uplink Time

>I have seen occasional messages here about buying uplink time. If
>I were to go about buying uplink (video) time, where would I
>begin? I guess step one would be to find a studio that they'd let
>us use!

You can produce your own tapes without going to a studio.  Most studios do
not have uplinks.

Many of the uplinkers list their phone numbers on the screen along with a
message saying that time is available.  NOTEL and DENVER TELEPORT both sell
time.  You would be better off going to one of these smaller outfits rather
than one in a larger city, like L.A. as they are more expensive.

>Is Ku much less expensive? For the application I have in mind, Ku
>is preferable since most of the target audience are not dish
>owners and they'd have to buy equipment for this purpose.

There is such a WIDE variety of pricing out there in video time it is
amazing.  Right now you could probably get a good deal on time from the folks
that we at LTRN get our transponder time from, there is video time available
in the afternoon.  It is C band though.  I don't have KU as of yet, so don't
have a good handle on that band.  I will say that you should SHOP around.

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Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:32:11 GMT
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              5 Nov 1992 14:06:29 GMT from <zimm@CONDOR.NAVSSES.NAVY.MIL>

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:06:29 GMT <zimm@CONDOR.NAVSSES.NAVY.MIL> said:
>>>THE NEW CODES WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON....
>
>So, what you're saying is that it's ok to steal, cheat, rob, and be
>generally dishonorable.  Scrambling is (essentially) a protection of
>copyright, and as a writer and information services vendor I can only
>say that I disagree.  If someone has a problem with GI, that's understandable.
>I dislike monopolies too.  But protection of intellectual property is a
>perfectly valid exercise.  I am apalled and quite irritated to see someone
>using the Internet to espouse an illegal and immoral activity.
>

Don't get so rude, try to understand. The issue here isn't supporting piricy.
It's just to continue with the service for those of us who can't subscribe. I d
on't think I'm the only one in that situation in this list. I DO support protec
tion of intellectual property. Maybe I should have stated that my messagge wasn
't directed for those who live in the US, and remember the Internet is an inter
national network. What I am saying is that it isn't clear what's an illegal and
 immoral activity and for whom.

I WOULD SUBSCRIBE TO THE SERVICES I WANT TO WATCH IF I COULD !!!!

>It might not be a crime in Mexico, but it is in the U.S., and this
>kind of thing is...unwelcome...on the net.  Your account should be
>yanked, and the activity that issued it to you should be brought
>under scrutiny by network administration to answer why you were
>granted access in the first place.
>
The same as above. Unwelcome by whom  ? For the US readers maybe, for some Euro
pean, Mexican, Canadian, Brazilian Caribbean and others maybe not.


>If no one else does, I'll submit a complaint myself.
>
>   Dave
Let's not fight, and discuss something more interesting. By no means I'm scared
.

JR.
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:45:14 PST
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <vijay@ZYCAD.COM>
Subject:      Prices for VC II+
              7 Nov 1992 18:16:11 GMT <9211080922.AA04160@Sun.COM>

> What is the lowest price you have seen for a VideoCipher II+ descrambler
> module?  The dealers here in Canada want $600+ (Canadian dollars).  I think
> I saw it for $429 (US) on one of those satellite equipment channels.

I have seen $360-$375. Add shipping and Taxes, if any.

Gary is right, the only "cheap" equipment I have seen on the
shopping channels are surplus buys (like the Janiel).

- VV
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From: gilmore@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kevin Gilmore)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:01:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA


Does anyone know where the hawks feed will be tonight, and or which
of the SSN channels...

Does anyone have a feed list for PBS...
	
Please respond by tonight at 5 to
gilmore at casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
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Subject: November 1992 Dishcetra mailed out
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:15:54 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I have just mailed out the November 1992 dishcetra magazine.  I am
sorry if some of you got duplicates -- I am trying to work on that 
problem.

If you are not on the list and want a copy, I will Email you a copy
and add you to the list.  If you want off, let me know and I'll
delete you from my mailing list.

Robert

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From: bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Brian J. Catlin)
Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:43:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University - Electrical Engineering

In article <DOCONNOR.92Nov6105224@potato.sedona.intel.com> doconnor@sedona.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor) writes:
>It matters a whole lot, according to Federal laws. The airwaves are a public
>rescource, and simply tuning in a signal and listening/watching it is NOT
>a crime ( although recomunicating the signal, making money off of it, or
>divulging the contents os the signal to a third party usually is ). However,
>scrambled signals are considered private under Federal law, and descrambling
>them without some kind of consent from the scrambling party IS a crime.

From a government document online service:
----------
FCC STAND ON UNAUTHORIZED TV RECEPTION  
ONLINE NEWSLETTER  
NOVEMBER 1981  
Msg. NL0882  Category: TELECOMMUNICATIONS  
   
FEE STAND ON UNAUTHORIZED SATELLITE TV RECEPTION -  
   
In a recent speech in Phoenix, AZ, FCC Commissioner Henry M. Rivera stated  
that  any  interception  of  satellite  TV  signals  by  unauthorized home  
antennas is illegal. Many consumers have had the mistaken impression  that  
if  they have their  own 3-or 4-foot  parabolic antenna, they  are free to  
intercept satellite signals if the  signals are not retransmitted or  used  
for commercial purposes. Several companies are considering the possibility  
of putting signal scramblers on their satellite transmitters to reduce the  
number of unauthorized users.  
   
Rivera  did say, however, that the FCC  is looking into the area of direct  
broadcast satellites for home consumer use. In this case, consumers  would  
be  encouraged  to  have  their own  dish  antennas  to  receive satellite  
satellites  under consideration.  However, they  do not  plan to  make any  
decisions  on   these  applications   until   after  the   1982   Regional  
Administrative   Radio  Conference   is  held  in   conjunction  with  the  
International Telecommunications Conference. The orbits and frequencies of  
new  telecommunications  satellites  will  be  approved  for  the  Western  
Hemisphere at that time.  
----------
I must admit that I too have watched the Star Trek feeds among many others.
I just simply wanted to get to the bottom of this.  If anyone has any newer
information that disputes this, please post it.


Please take all flames, gripes, random outbursts of laughter, etc to e-mail.
B. J. Catlin