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Subject: MORBID ANGEL destroy Sydney !
From: phil@n6batws1.itwol.bhp.com.au (Phil McMillan)
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:09:40 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: BHP Steel - Slab and Plate Products Division - Port Kembla AUSTRALIA

Morbid Angel played the Enmore Theatre, Sydney last night (12th August 92).

I thought that it was the best thing I have ever heard.

No other concert has left me feeling like I've just been mugged !

They played for about ninety minutes I guess ?  Tracks included most of
their old favourites ...

	Chapel of Ghouls
	Blessed are the Sick
	Suffocation
	Immortal Rites
	Damnation
	Lord of all Fevers and Plague
	Fall from Grace

They didn't play my favourite though (Unholy Blasphemies)  :-(

David Vincent also mentioned that Angel Of Disease (featured on Earache's
Abominations Of Desolation) will be on their next studio album.  It
sounds *completely* different.

One thing I can't help thinking ... wouldn't they get sick of playing
these songs ... they've been playing much the same ones since 1986.

I thought they were very great and now if only Carcass and Pungent Stench
would come out my life would be musically complete.

The support act Sadistik Exekution were pretty fine too !


I haven't got my hearing back yet  :-((

....... phil



Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: WHEN DOES THE *REAL* METAL DISCUSSION BEGIN?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Sauron, Maple, Good 'ol days
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:36:00 GMT

>>I am awaiting the day school starts up again in the fall so this 
>>discussion can once again turn to heavy metal,  not hard rock and
>>more of this Def Leotard and other weak music.  
> 
>Well, it would be fun to talk about less known stuff than the likes of 
>Metallica, Slayer, Danzig, Def Leppard, etc., but those seem to be the only
>heavy metal bands anyone knows. Ever hear of Desolation Angels? Blood?
>Hellhammer? Tank? Venom? Angel Witch? Evil? Satan? You haven't? Well, maybe
>you should reread your post and get into less mainstream nonconformist
>metal. Not that I have anything against the bands I mention, but just that
>everyone seems expected to like them and it's almost automatically assumed
>that if you like heavy metal you would like Metallica et al, which isn't
>necessarily true but taken to be so. 
>>
>>Better yet,  see if someone with power can get an alt.metal.death
>>conference created so we can abandon this one and let the spandex
>>lovers talk about Axl rose's screachy voice some more.  
>>
>Nothing wrong with spandex, but from what I get out of what you say, yes, it's
>the music that matters, not what the band looks like. Well, I don't give a fuck
>what the band looks like so long as they can play. I don't even care if they're
>posers as far as media attention, etc., so long as they can support their
>claims to greatness with what they can play. Lots of great bands wore spandex.
>Even Slayer at one time.
> 
>And finally, what's there to say about death and grind? SOmeone asks "What's
>goingone with" or "Who is" __<insert death / grind band here__ and always
>there's a reply and then nothing more is said. Everyone who responds seem to
>like it, and those who don't like death and grind seem to just ignore those
>posts, so there's not much discussion that can be gotten out of something
>that doesn't seem so controvertial. It would be nice to get into other topics
>other than the Metallica/GNR show, why GNR is a great/lousy band, is Def 
>Leppard really heavy metal after all, stuff like that. I think the topics are
>getting dry now, but there's not much to argue when everyone more or less
>agrees on who they like or don't like.  Anyway that's how I see it. 
> 
>And one more thing. If you really want to be technical, death and grind aren't
>really heavy metal. I personally don't care what gets discussed in this group,
>so long as here the bands mentioned use a distortion pedal somewhere in their
>music. Heavy metal does not translate into "bands I like that wimps don't 
>like." 
> 
>philip

Well said, well said.

Michael
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: Grind Crusher
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:04:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.052220.24356@news.ysu.edu> aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar) writes:


   I saw an LP by about 20 different thrash, death, and industrial bands
   called Grind Crusher..It runs for about $7 bucks...Is it worth gettin'??
   Its got groups like Carcass, Napalm Death, GodFlesh, Hell Bastard, and a
   whole shit load of more bands I can't really remember now...Any get this or
   hear it? And is it a kickin' tape or just little parts outta different songs??

Grindcrusher is great, esp if you want to just start to get into a lot of 
thrash but are just new at it.  They are all full-length songs, 24 tracks 
on my cd...but the second Napalm Death track (_you suffer_) is only like 
2 seconds long.  Good variety, from Morbid Angel to Godflesh to Lawnmower
Deth to Sore Throat to Heresy to Carnage.  For the price, its about the
best value out there.  my only complaint is that this is a 1990 release,
so most of the bands on here have recorded an album after the one in which
they pull a song from.  They should come out with a new one, but then i 
guess thats sortof what Gods of Grind is.  sortof.  

   Any ideas are welcomed..especially those sick little twisted ones that always
   seem to pop up on here.... :)

ANY ideas?  just restricted to the Grindcrusher disk, or can i start talking
about my obsession with the badly decomposed?

OBdeath:  I got a chance to check out the new Nocturnus this weekend.....
pretty technical, if youre into Nocturnus you'll love it, otherwise you
might hate it.  Saw new Cannibal Corpse too, really really gross songs...
i like it a lot :)


--
Jon Konrath, University Computing  | Jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ultrix)
From: bmkling@cs.vu.nl (Kling BM)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Some new albums and more
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:57:14 GMT

Recently I bought some new albums and I like to share my opinion with
you lot.

1. Megadeth-Countdown to Extinction
   
   Very,very good album. A bit softer then their earlier stuff but
   still the rough Mega-sound. I also like the influences of Marty
   Friedmann and Nick Menza to make it more of a group effort.
   Symphony of Destruction must be the worst song of this album and
   the title song is definately the best. It beats Metallica's last
   album easily. 
					9.

2. Suicidal Tendencies-The art of rebellion

   This was always my favourite band as it changed from punk to
   hardcore to metal. And it still is !!! This album is not their
   best ( as How will I laugh is) but is a whole lot better then I
   suspected it. Cause I thought it was gonna be another Infectios
   Grooves-thingy. But it is really the old Suicidal sound (Punk)
   mixed with hardcore, metal, funk and some acoustic work. In one
   word this album is really one the best you can buy at the moment.
   (This wasn't one word ?)
					8 1/2.

3. The Gathering-Always...

   This new DUTCH !! (!) death metal band really has a new style.
   Influences of Celtic Frost and Paradise Lost are there but also
   some things of their own. I love the keyboards and the female
   vocalist and the lead vocalist is just what it needs to rock !!
   After some really good albums from dutch bands I really think
   the scene is moving to Holland !!!! Cheers.
					8 1/2.

And I like to say something to the fuckers who read 
alt.rock-n-roll.metal. This once good newsgroup has been spoiled by
a few childish bastards who can only complain how bad Metallica or
Guns'n'Roses are. If people wants to listen to that music they like
why bother ? You are listening to the right music, that is to the
music you like and other people are enjoying their music, which
they think is right. So leave them alone. Thank God there is always
alt.thrash !!!

PAX.

"You just keep on trying to make this world better...but you will
never succeed."; PAX.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie (Eru)
Subject: Re: WHEN DOES THE *REAL* METAL DISCUSSION BEGIN?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:17:30 GMT

In <JKONRATH.92Aug13090023@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath) writes:

>In article <1992Aug13.050257.9099@news.ysu.edu> aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar) writes:

>   You got my vote on an Alt.Metal.Death! That would be cool. All those other
>   glam fags could stick with alt.metal.metallica or alt.rock-n-roll or what
>   ever the Hell they call it. Death is here to stay, so lets make it alittle
>   exciting....

I'm not really sure that such a group is necessary, as it is, alt.thrash
is a fairly low traffic group, so I would guess that creation of
alt.metal.death would result in two even-lower traffic groups. Just an
opinion.

What I find more interesting is the question "Is thrash dead?". Is alt.thrash
necessary anymore?

When I started listening to thrash, bands like Kreator, Sodom, Sabbat, Coroner,
Testament (the early stuff), Bathory (ditto), Nuclear Assault and the
like were the mainstays of the genre.

After a while, bands like Death, Sepultura and the plethora of Florida
death metal bands gained prominence. These days the death metal scene
seems to have eclipsed old-fashioned (:) straight-ahead thrash. While
I really like death metal, and wouldn't miss a death metal gig for the
world, sometimes I pine for a good solid thrash gig. These days,
unfortunately, the likes of those mentioned above seem to have stopped
touring, presumably because they can no longer draw the crowds.

Opinions?

>anyone get the new Nocturnus yet?
("Thresholds" I presume)
Yeah, not bad, the intro ("Creatures of darkness, I summon thee by the
powers of darkness, Zi dingir anna kanpai, Zi dingir kia kanpai" etc.)
is remeniscent of Manowar. The music is not as catchy as "The Key" but
fairly good if you like Nocturnus' style.

	Gavin. (I think I'll get a rocking chair to go with my Bathory records)
>--
>Jon Konrath, University Computing  | Jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ultrix) 
--
"What is a finite automaton?"         / Gavin Doherty
"Deterministic or nondeterministic?" / Computer Science
"I don't know"                      / Trinity College Dublin 
"AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!"         / gdoherty@unix1.tcd.ie 
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: WHEN DOES THE *REAL* METAL DISCUSSION BEGIN?
Keywords: Sauron, Maple, Good 'ol days 
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:11:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.005528.16795@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> rshvern@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Rob Shvern) writes:
>I am awaiting the day school starts up again in the fall so this 
>discussion can once again turn to heavy metal,  not hard rock and
>more of this Def Leotard and other weak music.  

Well, it would be fun to talk about less known stuff than the likes of 
Metallica, Slayer, Danzig, Def Leppard, etc., but those seem to be the only
heavy metal bands anyone knows. Ever hear of Desolation Angels? Blood?
Hellhammer? Tank? Venom? Angel Witch? Evil? Satan? You haven't? Well, maybe
you should reread your post and get into less mainstream nonconformist
metal. Not that I have anything against the bands I mention, but just that
everyone seems expected to like them and it's almost automatically assumed
that if you like heavy metal you would like Metallica et al, which isn't
necessarily true but taken to be so. 
>
>Better yet,  see if someone with power can get an alt.metal.death
>conference created so we can abandon this one and let the spandex
>lovers talk about Axl rose's screachy voice some more.  
>
Nothing wrong with spandex, but from what I get out of what you say, yes, it's
the music that matters, not what the band looks like. Well, I don't give a fuck
what the band looks like so long as they can play. I don't even care if they're
posers as far as media attention, etc., so long as they can support their
claims to greatness with what they can play. Lots of great bands wore spandex.
Even Slayer at one time.

And finally, what's there to say about death and grind? SOmeone asks "What's
goingone with" or "Who is" __<insert death / grind band here__ and always
there's a reply and then nothing more is said. Everyone who responds seem to
like it, and those who don't like death and grind seem to just ignore those
posts, so there's not much discussion that can be gotten out of something
that doesn't seem so controvertial. It would be nice to get into other topics
other than the Metallica/GNR show, why GNR is a great/lousy band, is Def 
Leppard really heavy metal after all, stuff like that. I think the topics are
getting dry now, but there's not much to argue when everyone more or less
agrees on who they like or don't like.  Anyway that's how I see it. 

And one more thing. If you really want to be technical, death and grind aren't
really heavy metal. I personally don't care what gets discussed in this group,
so long as here the bands mentioned use a distortion pedal somewhere in their
music. Heavy metal does not translate into "bands I like that wimps don't 
like." 

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Subject: Re: Flatulent Eggplant:  Putrifying Mass - A++
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:58:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.052022.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>
>
>Thrash is dead and has been for, oh, about six years or so.  The really
>innovative, punk-based, hellishly aggro style of playing thirty-second songs
>with more punch than most modern death albums rose in the early eighties and
>died shortly afterward.  Most of the bands (CoC, DRI) sold out or
>disintegrated.  But it was neat stuff.
>

Sorry to hear it died, what a shame, well I for one am glad to say that
at the very least it is still thriving in New Zealand, at the very least 
then maybe we are just about 10 years behind the times anyways. :-)

Local thrashers Head Like A Hole have just released a record "13" on Wildside
records, which really kicks arse. What are they like? You take Red Hot Chilli 
Peppers on speed, sample it with the Butthole Surfers, a splattering of Death 
Metal, with that unique made in New Zealand hardcore sound and you have Head 
Like A Hole. Their manager ex-hardcore band Flesh De Vice is in the UK at the 
moment looking around for venues, they are planning to tour Australia and 
Europe in the not too distant future, I post when I get more confirmed details.

I believe that some of the Australian bands kick arse too, yep, The Hardons
come to mind here, I'm going to catch them at The Building as they are
playing here this month. 

>Speed metal's dead/dying, too.  All of the old guard speed metal bands have
>sold out (please don't reply if you disagree; just do it quietly, this is for a
>point) - Testament, Megadeth, Metallica.  Slayer's still hanging in there but
>have lost much of their dynamic feel that can be found on earlier albums. 
>Sepultura's just signed with Sony, but I doubt that means sell-out.  At least,
>I hope not.  I think that is currently the best speed metal band out there,
>although they seem more of a speed/death crossover.
>

Lighten up a bit, check out Pungent Stench, a Danish 3 piece band with a 
slash and kill flavour, their lyrics are hilarous and put Ice-T to shame, 
Napalm Death have released another, Utopia Banished, Entombed with their 
Clandestine release, a real gem, Ministry have crossed over with their new 
Psalm 69 album, there are others, but I'll leave that for someone else.

>Yeah, I have to agree with one of the guy from Nirvana:  metal has exhausted
>itself.  

I tend to think more the flavour of metal is changing, with the advent 
of technology, not dying. Metal is here to stay, I'm gotta go now and
turn over that Prong "Beg To Differ" tape, I'm listening to.
                
--
Red


Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: mfc1493@venus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Old/New Overkill
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:38:00 GMT

I am a big fan of Overkill/Bobby Gustafson and was wondering 2 things:

If the newest Overkill album Horrorscope was as good as the older stuff with
Gustafson, and what Gustafson has been doing since the Cycle Sluts album.

Merci.

Ratboy the Curious


Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,rec.music.christian
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Intermosh The Return
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:11:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.055847.2472@cs.uow.edu.au> u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au (Sean Volke) writes:
>u911469@postoffice.utas.edu.au (The DOK) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug6.035149.14179@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>>> 
>>> ** INTERMOSH ** 
>
>>> now out, in case you didn't know, is the new Mortification album, "Scrolls
>>> of the Megilloth"... pure 100% death metal! Morbid Angel fans beware, God
>>> is after your domain now!  Mortification is currently touring Australia
>>> with new underground Christian death band Discarnated, who is replacing
>>> Deracination due to band member changes (note: they replaced Paramaecium
>>> due to school.. confused yet?)..
>>           I must say Mortification's new album is BRILLIANT!!!!!! That free
>>time in the studios really helped the sound! I remember hearing Jayson Sherlock
>>and Steve Rowe talking about the new album (and playing previews of it, this was
>>about 8 or 9 weeks ago) on a radio station near Melbourne (Radio Raiders on 3RPP
>>to be exact). And they were really pleased with the way it turned out.
>>           I also have to say, if you haven't heard Paramaecium, Deracination, or
>>Discarnated, where have you been? Look out U.S.A. the Aussie Christian Metal
>>Invasion (A.C.M.I.) has begun. Lightforce started, Rosanna's Raiders tried,
>>Mortification is continuing, other bands are coming!!!!
>
>>>  get
>>> Mortification, "Scrolls of the Megilloth"
>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> 
>This album is hot, I've heard one song which was great. And friend has
>listened to the whole album and loved it. Definitely tops their previous
>effort. One of the heaviest bands I've heard.
>-- 
>    ___        |MOSH       'Wake up mislead children of wrath           
>   /   \  THE  |FOR        Escape the consequence of the fire'          
>  | O  | SNAIL |THE                                 Mortification     //
>__\___/_____\/_|MASTER     u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au                   \X/ 

OK THAT'S IT! I WANT SOME AMERICAN CHRISTIAN DEATH METAL NOW!!

I never thought in all my life I would say that out loud.

Anyway, Any of you Aussies out there into a band out there called
Siborius? Or ever heard of them? Or how about Eucharist? Discarnated? 

AND WILL SOMEBODY GET ME PARAMAECIUM???

Have a nice day, mates!

Phil (the American minority!)

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From: u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au (Sean Volke)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: THE POPE SPEAKS(yep,again)
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:14:16 GMT
Organization: The Shell

jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young) writes:

>Well it seems my little"**REAL**metal"thread got you worthless
>filth to get your hands out of your pants and start talking.

>Now,I know you all know that this weak sister shit has to go..
>so if anyone would like to grovel about their favorite NON-
>lipstick.prettyboy.bra metal,then get to it.

>First(IMHO)The Entombed is THE best grind band around.If any of
>you incompetent fools are musicians in or around the Sweden/German
>area,find out their set up for the guitars.Every time I see them
>I try to get a look at their shit,But end up thrashin'(know what I
>mean)
>Second(IMHO)Cannible Corpse is THE best gore band.It makes me
>want to shove my neighbor in the fan shroud of my car and then
>go for a sunday drive!

AND, IMHO Mortification is THE best death band around.
-- 
    ___        |MOSH       'Wake up mislead children of wrath           
   /   \  THE  |FOR        Escape the consequence of the fire'          
  | O  | SNAIL |THE                                 Mortification     //
__\___/_____\/_|MASTER     u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au                   \X/ 
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: rshvern@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Rob Shvern)
Subject: Re: WHEN DOES THE *REAL* METAL DISCUSSION BEGIN?
Summary: No more hard rock
Keywords: Sauron, Maple, Good 'ol days 
Organization: Death Metal America
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:55:28 GMT

I am awaiting the day school starts up again in the fall so this 
discussion can once again turn to heavy metal,  not hard rock and
more of this Def Leotard and other weak music.  

Better yet,  see if someone with power can get an alt.metal.death
conference created so we can abandon this one and let the spandex
lovers talk about Axl rose's screachy voice some more.  

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