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From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Performa 600 - not a cripple!
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:23:02 GMT

In article <D2150056.l1s5kx@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>> As a user of the radio spectrum, I applaud Apple's efforts to continue to
>> improve the radiation characteristics of their machines.  While the IIci is
>> very quiet, the metal cases are not only cheaper for Apple to manufacture,
>> they are also better suited to meeting RFI and EMC requirements.
>
>As I said, it's a matter of taste. I don't give a damn about radiation
>characteristics.


That's like saying you don't give a damn how much your car pollutes the
atmosphere.  Maybe someone *else* cares how much your car pollutes the
atmosphere.

In any case, it's your responsibility not to interfere with licensed
users of the radio spectrum who are operating legally, and to accept
interference from them (or shield your equipment if you don't want to be
interfered with).  Most amateur radio operators, although they are not
technically responsible for the interference (cheap consumer electronics
are usually at fault), are nevertheless quite willing to help track down
and eliminate the interference (possibly by additional shielding on your
equipment).

Fortunately, Macs (including those with plastic cases) are pretty well 
shielded.  Saying you don't care about how much you pollute the radio 
spectrum is pretty inconsiderate, though.

--
Steve Kanefsky
AA7QL

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From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Express or PowerPort /Was-PB 160/180 and PowerPort
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:00:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.182254.6987@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
jnowak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Nowak) wrote:
> 
> Now the question is whether to with Apple's cheaper Express modem or one
> of the PowerPorts.

I have had an Express Modem ordered for quite some time and the Dist
does not even have a clue when they will be coming in....went with a
PowerPort/Gold.....I heard that the Express modem offloads the IO 
processing to the CPU....thats why it's cheaper, I wonder if that will
hamper performance. If you require FAX capabilites and the Express Modem
comes with the same FAX software as the 2400baud Apple modems then I
would go with the PowerPort.....We have been using PowerPort/Golds in
all our PowerBooks and have been extemely pleased. We have experienced
no problems.......
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From: c60a-bw@danube.Berkeley.EDU (James Wang)
Subject: Re: New LC: faster than 25MHz?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:13:14 GMT

In article <1326@eplunix.UUCP> das@eplunix.UUCP (David Steffens) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.045714.4976@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>,
>c60a-bw@danube.Berkeley.EDU (James Wang) writes:
>> ...  basically, the lc still lacks several aspects of the vx (of
>> course no room for a cd-rom or enough vram to drive a 16"...etc.
>
>Will you guys please check your "facts" before posting?  The IIvx _cannot_
>drive a 16" color monitor no matter how much VRAM it has.  You can display
>more colors on a 13" or 14" monitor by adding more VRAM, but a 14" monitor
>is the largest that can be driven by the IIvx on-board video no matter what.
>Only the Quadra on-board video can drive the larger color screens directly.
>	-- from "Macintosh Compatibility Chart", October 1992.
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oops, too many "facts" to remember i guess.  but to be fair, the new 
powerbooks and duos can drive a 16' .. right??
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac II switched power strips
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:23:11 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <j6a2#wk@rpi.edu>, weltyc@porsche.cs.rpi.edu (Chris Welty) writes...
 [switched power strip for Mac II and peripherals]

 I think that Radio Shack sells a power strip in which one outlet is sensitive
 to power being drawn; when it is, the other outlets are switched on too. This
 way, you can plug your Mac into that outlet, and when it powers up,
 everything else does as well. As for SCSI sequencing, you could put your
 System folder on the outboard drive, and the Mac would wait for it (I
 assume). The only problem I can see is if the trickle the Mac draws from the
 outlet (I think it does draw a tiny amount, even when off) is enough to
 enable the power strip.

 Rich

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From: GRS00011@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*James F. Jarrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP I Need sun remarketings Phone number!!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:23:58 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
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I need help.  I need the phone number of Sun Remarketing, the company that
remarketed the lisas.  I am looking for upgrades to the old Lisas.

Thanx

Ozymandias

P.S.  Please Send direct e-mail as I do not usually read this group.

Ozzy

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From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: Re: MiniDock status?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:56:49 GMT

The latest MacWarehouse catalog (received around 12-12-92) had the Powerlink 
Desklink for $499.  I didn't realize that this didn't have the modem port; but 
I guess if you wanted to use the modem you could just unplug the port, eh?

Bob
From: olsenm@ucs.orst.edu (Monte Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP! Video/FX troubles!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:03:25 GMT
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Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
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Are there any Mac Video F/X wizards out there who would be willing to
help us here. We've been trying to solve an audio out problem with our
Video F/X system and can't seem to get anywhere. AND the company is
absolutely no help! Argghh!

We need your help bad as this problem is costing us lots of editing time.

Thanks for any help, suggestions, etc.
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From: harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison)
Subject: Re: Anybody know of any NuBus devlopment boards?
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:55:23 GMT

In article <17459@umd5.umd.edu> gadams@eng.umd.edu (Geoff Adams) writes:
> I'd like to develop a NuBus board for Macs to do some video
> coprocessing.  I've heard mentions of "NuBus development boards,"
> or boards which have the correct form factor and already have the
> necessary bus decoding/arbitration circuitry soldered in.  Does
> anyone have any idea from whom I could buy such boards, or even
> some general idea of their cost?

Apple sells a guide to designing NuBus interfaces.  It includes some
interface circuits and a mechanical drawing of the form factor.  I
believe they also describe a development board.  Check your local
computer book store (I got mine at Walden Software).  Sorry I can't
be more specific but my book is at home.

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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac SE/30.
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:43:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>This complex branching of the product line really sucks. How about a 
>return to a straight forward progression of features and price 
>(128, 512, Plus, SE, SE/30). Two steps forward and one step back is no
>way to make progress.

  I disagree.  Apple needs to make some cheap machines to increase their
market share, by farming out the cripples to SEARS, they're
accomplishing that, that leaves the main product line free to
present quality at cost.  Ie, the Duo's, PB 180, new Quads, etc.

                           -- Nick


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From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: A whinge about keyboards
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:55:03 GMT


Yes, Apple keyboards are pretty screwed up.  The latest eccentricity I've
noticed is that they can't seem to make up their minds about which way the
ADB connect should plug into the keyboard.  I've seen keyboards that plug
in three different ways:

o flat part of the connector facing up (makes the most sense IMO)
o ... facing forward
o ... facing backward

I'm waiting for them to release one that plugs in upside-down...  :-)

Edgar
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From: ucess2j@ucl.ac.uk (Dr Jaroslav Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Crippled IIvx ?? Not really.
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:36:28 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

> The macs speedup will probably be not as strong as the pc's speedup
> for this 'clock-doubling' technique because the main speed hose is the
> memory, and 486's have that 8k internal cache and usually have an
> additional 64-128k cache on top of that, while the 2ci and 2vx only
> have a 256 byte local cache and 32k external cache. 

True, but on a IIvx the 32k external cache presumably runs at the 'doubled'
speed i.e. 32MHz, whilst on the 'clock-doubled' 486 systems that I was
referring to I beleive that the external cache runs at the bus speed.

J. Stark

(j.stark@ucl.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Subject: Re: MacPlus - No Video!
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:48:16 GMT

In <1992Dec17.171653.19229@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj) writes:

>In article 161292205910@mac_dungeon.ics.uci.edu, truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) writes:
>>> I have a MacPlus that exhibits the following symptoms:
>>>
>>> 	* intermittent flashing on screen
>>>
>>> 	* sometimes no video upon powerup
>>>
>>> 	* flashing, then total loss of video
>>
>>Either you have a loose connector or, much more likely, your analog board
>>is dead or dying. In any event, unless you can open the case, discharge the
>>CRT, and optain spares cheaply, it needs a tripp to an authorized Apple
>>tech. If it's the board, it's going to cost at least $100.
>>
>>  --scott
>Greetings,
>   It sounds like a loose solder joint.  Invest the $20 bucks or so and get the
>book "Macintosh Repair Secrets".  No need to pay these ripoff dealers several
>hundred dollars what 15 minutes and a soldering iron will fix.  I have fixed
>mine twice now as well as the keyboard using this book.
>					Bohdan

I had same symptoms on my plus. Turned out to be the analog board, a bad
solder joint on one of the wire-bundle connector pins. Took two years to fail.
Since then I've upgraded my power supply from a kit sold by Soft Solutions.
(503)461-1136. They give great (free) tech help over the phone too.

Your mileage may vary...I've no connection with Soft Solutions except
as a satified customer. Beware of high voltage on the analog board
(from an undischarged CRT)...macs are FUN.

--alen
alen@crash.cts.com
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Distribution: world
From: David_A._Schnider@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:22:02 PST
Subject: Re: Where the mac really wins

Why are people debating sales and future plans of companies.  If we want to
truly copmare these systems then we need to compare the values of the entire
range of computers offered with each platform.  I would like to see arguments
such as Macs are better because they are easier to use, or PCs are better
because they are cheaper.  Once we take all of these things into account we
can make broad based claims in comparison of the platforms.  There is no point
in arguing about what each company is about to release, argue what they
provide ow and how they provide it!

-David
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From: warn@newton.uvm.edu (Patrick D Warn)
Subject: Hang up PB modem?
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: default
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:53:25 GMT

I've got a powerbook 100 and the apple powerbook modem, and I'm running
z-term. I'm having a hard time figuring out how to make the modem hang-up.
the modem doesn't seem to respond to an ATH0 command, or the hardware
hang-up option in z-term. I called apple, and all they said was to put
a "+++" in front of the ATH0 command. That didn't help. They only other
factor may be that I'm using a phone on our campus PBX system. Since the 
modem works well in all other respects, I think I'm doing something wrong.

Anybody have any ideas?

Wondering what it all means,
Pat
From: goldenj@nic.csu.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Questions about an IBM0663 Drive in A Mac?
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:46:06 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology

We are trying to add an IBM 0663 drive to our Mac server. The disk formating
software we tried all failed to recognize the drive when the 1st jumper is 
in place. When the jumper is removed the software recognizes the drive and
reports the drive info but the drive will not spin up. We were told that the
1st jumper is used to control spin-up of the drive. Does anyone have any
information on this Drive and how to get it formated on a Mac?
---
Jim Golden                    goldenj@nic.csu.net
Chancellors Office
California State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:46:05 EST
Subject: Mac Plus and High Speed Modems

Is it true that the Mac Plus has problems with modems running at greater then
9600BPS?  I have a Plus and I may be getting a SupraFax, and I want to know if
this configuration will work.

Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:45:29 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Dec11.023109.27911@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:

>>takes care of the hardware. So no advantage to the Mac here. I don't see
>>why System 7 should have any less overhead than Windows would when doing
>>graphics. If you have a video accelrator card installed, the drivers have
>>to do a simpler job. If you don't theres all that low-level writing to the 
>>hardware that needs to be done. Doesn't matter whether you have a Mac or 
>>a PC. 
>
>This would be the case if Windows was as well optimized as System 7.0 w.r.t.
>graphics.  In my experience, this is NOT the case.  I don't have a good
>Windows machine (what an oxymoron) available to test with now-days, so I 
>can't give numbers.  Most Windows machines that can keep up with a Mac 
>with an equally fast CPU have a graphics accelerator, whereas the Mac 
>doesn't.

This may be true, but that'll mean comparing an Si to a very low-end
386 (20 MHz?). I'll add that the _only_ impartial criterion for com-
paring machines of different architecture is price. 

>>See my post elsewhere about some actual benchmarks using Excel. A 
>>386SLC (16 bit bus) recalcs a sheet twice as fast in Excel as a IICi
>>does. A 486/25 will blow the ci out of the water. 
>
>Excel may be relatively well optimized on Windows; I seem to remember a
>Byte spreadsheet comparison that showed that it was at least close, in
>terms of speed to its competitors.  On the Mac, WingZ is MUCH faster than
>Excel.  Excel is a dog, a nicely polished one, but still a dog.

OK. Easy way to prove this. Do my spreadsheet in WingZ _and_ Excel on 
your machine and post the results. 


You can get WingZ for Windows too, by the way. Excel 4 beats it (and 
1234W) in features (ones I actually use, mind you) and ease of use. 
I'll bet if I ran 123 v. 2.0 (where is that disk?) alone under DOS
I'd get screaming performance - better than Excel 4. But why would I?





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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: takrewso@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (thomas a krewson)
Subject: Mac FX w/ 7.1 or tune up slooow
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:16:44 GMT


Has anyone seen a degradation of speed when adding the 7.01 system tune up
or using 7.1? I have seen what seems like a real slow down when starting
and leaving programs. Users of 7.1 beware, 7.1 has some major changes and
may require an upgrade from your software vendors.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: root@lagrange ()
Subject: printing to hpIIIsi from appletalk and serial
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:00:39 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins

Hi, 
We are currently have an HP LaserJet IIIsi hooked up to a MicroVax II
running Ultrix via the serial port.   The HP has the postscript option
and we current use software switching between postscript and hp pcl.
We are looking for a product that will allow us to use this printer
from our appletalk network.  Does anyone know of a product that will
allow us to connect the printer to appletalk and still allow the 
use of the serial port simultaneously?  Another possibility, since we
have a gator box (appletalk/ethernet bridge) might be to somehow 
use the unix box as a print server for the macs.  Any recommendations?
Thanks,
John Arvidson
arvidson@lagrange.math.colostate.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lwwarpup@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Lonnie W. Warpup)
Subject: Personal LaserWriter LS & System 6.0.8
Summary: Why won't my Personal LaserWriter LS print under 6.-.8
Keywords: 6.0.8 PLW LS
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:04:43 GMT

I am currently using a system switcher program to switch between 7.1 and
6.0.8 because of various programs that don't like 7.1, and I can't seem
to get 6.0.8 to recognize my Personal LaserWriter LS printer.  As far as
I know, I have the latest drivers and everything.  Please help.
 
-Lonnie W. Warpup
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott Allen Gruby)
Subject: HP LaserJet IIP printer driver
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:28:19 GMT

My dad is trying to hookup my Mac to his LaserJet IIP. We have
the correct cable, but now need a printer driver to operate it.
Is there a free or low cost one available?

Thanks.

Please respond by email since I will not have news access for awhile.


-- 

Scott Gruby
sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu
From: stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Laserwriter LS scratches cartridge. Known problem?
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:02:51 GMT
Distribution: na

Some firends of mine recently purchased a laserwriter LS and have
discovered to their dismay that it destroyed their first toner
cart. within a few weeks by scratching a stripe through the surface
of the drum. The printer then made big black lines on everything.
Their dealer gave them a new cartridge, and the same thing is
happening to this one.

Is this a known problem of the printer or the cartridge? I looked
for any obvious protrusions which might be causing the scratches,
but saw no clear candidates.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Stern
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bruno@nariwork20.ethz.ch (Bruno Rechberger)
Subject: Re: Mac IIsi at 30 MHz, Somebody tested this??
Reply-To: bruno@nariwork20.ethz.ch
Organization: ETH Zurich
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:18:17 GMT

Yes, I tried it. It works but only without my NuBus adapter card with the FPU on board.

Bruno
From: vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Add-ons to PB 100
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:59:43 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu

In <CORY.92Dec14121734@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com> cory@hobbes.sanders.lockheed.com (Cory Myers) writes:
>I am planning some add-ons to a PowerBook 100.  Specifically, an
>addition 6 MB of RAM, replace the 20 MB drive with an 80, and an
>internal 14.4 modem (either Global Village or PSI).  Before purchasing
>these I want to know if there are any hidden "gotchas" like they "all
>won't fit" or "together they will eat your battery alive", etc.
>Thanks in advance.

The RAM and drive I can't comment on, although I would think newer drives
would have less current draw than these 20 meg beasts. As to the modems,
I know the Global Village 2400 draws 1/4 watt when active, and the 9600
and 14,400 both said 1 watt. They draw very little power idle, but if you
modem a lot off battery expect to watch that meter drop pretty fast.
The biggest vampire will by far be the modem, not the RAM.

It still really seems strange to me that with all these PB100's, nobody's
marketing a better battery! Lead-Acid is terrible! Surely a Nickel-Hydride
this huge would give me 8 hours of time. Plus which it burns me to shell out
$115 for a spare lead-acid that gives so little time. I'd fork out as much
as $150-$200 for a GOOD battery that would obviate the need for carrying
around spares.

I think I'll wait through the current Duo line which don't seem much better.
Maybe the next generation of them will have longer lives. 4 hours of REAL
use (bright enough screen to read without headaches) seems a reasonable
minimum requirement to me.