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From: rcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (rcollins)
Subject: FTA
Summary: Just read the message
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:33:51 GMT

Is FTA still around producing IIGS demos? I'd read somewhere a while back
that they had called it quits, is that true?    

Also, If they're still doing IIGS stuff does anyone know if they have a
internet address?

Thanks!

Randy 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Formatting troubles :(
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:44:26 GMT

In article <C1DD1r.71G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague) writes:
> Whenever I hit ESC while in the Finder, it locks up and I can'tI seem to have a
> problem with my Finder (and all other S16 programs).  Here's the deal.  If I
> try to format a disk (3.5" or 5.25") my GS yells "ALERT! ALERT!" at me, and
> then locks up - kinda.  I can't activate any windows, but

The "ALERT! ALERT!" is generated by the GS.Spy.2 INIT, which
intercepts the GS/OS format and erase calls.  A friend of mine is
using this INIT with System 6 without any problems, so there may be a
conflict with another INIT.

> name            type  blocks   modified               access
> ----            ----  ------   --------               ------
> introplay        tsf       9   21-Dec-88    9:52 AM   rwnd B
> startpic         tsf       1   26-Dec-87    4:57 AM   rwnd B
> finder.view      str     127   14-Jun-92    6:00 AM   rwnd B
> findersounder    str       4    6-May-92   10:15 PM   rwnd B
> cdev.init        tsf       6   14-Jun-89   10:29 AM   rwnd
  ^^^^^^^^^                      ^^^^^^^^^

Are you running System 5, then?  This file shouldn't be there if
you're running System 6 (I see you have the System 6 versions of
Tool.Setup, TS2 and TS3).

How did you install the system software?  Did you use the Installer
that comes with System 6, or just copy the files yourself?  It seems
that you have a mixture of files from at least two versions of the
system software, which is likely to be causing problems.

Try reinstalling System 6, using the Installer this time (Custom
installation).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Apple Pascal 1.3 - how does the Filer Date command work?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:17:55 GMT

david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson) writes:
>I have a Smartwatch in my //e and would like to add a startup program to my
>Pascal system to set the date. Can anyone explain exactly what the Date command
>does (in detail). I assume it writes to the system disk but it should, I think,
>keep it in memory somewhere (but where?)

Well, I wrote a little program to search memory and it managed to find where
Pascal v1.3 (128k) keeps the current date. It is in $B85A..$B85B in the
following format:

	|  B85B	  |	B85A |
	| Year | Day | Month |
	  7bits  5bits 4bits

This is the format the following Pascal definition gives:

	daterec = packed record of
		month : 0..12;
		day   : 0..31;
		year  : 0..100	(* 100 is for temp files *)
	end;
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Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
From: mglass@us.oracle.com (Michael Glass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple II+ FOR SALE
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:05:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
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Posted for a friend.....

For further information please call Carol at 408-268-3753

For Sale 	Best Offer

APPLE ][+
Model A2S1048

16K Language Bd.
Grappler & Interface bd. 
80 col bd. w/480 switch
128K Ram expander bd.
DISC ][ DRIVE (I & II) bd.

Amdek Mod. Video 300A Monitor, 12" w/amber screen

Two Apple Disc ][ 5-1/4" Disc Drives

TKC Numeric Keypad

Comrex Mod. CR-401 Joystick

Programs with documentation:

Pascal
Apple Works
Personal Finance Manager
Visacal
Publish It II
Timeout Superfont
List Finder
Copy II Plus
Zork
Scrabble
Magic Spells
Jeopardy

Additional Publications:

Apple Tutorial
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Apple Writer
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Subject: Printing Trouble -- PLEASE HELP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:26:34 GMT

Ok, I just got Harmonie v2.0 from the kind UPS man today.  I installed it
for my setup (Parallel Pro w/Panasonic KXP-1124 (not the 1124i)).  Well,
when I went into WordWorks to test it out I get a "Select switch is off"
message.  What the hell does THAT mean? There's no select switch on the
printer...

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From: meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy lee meekins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FTA
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:53:44 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
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In article <1993Jan25.003351.3276@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (rcollins) writes:
>Is FTA still around producing IIGS demos? I'd read somewhere a while back
>that they had called it quits, is that true?    
>
>Also, If they're still doing IIGS stuff does anyone know if they have a
>internet address?
>

They've disbanded and gone their ways....off to MS-DOS land and such...
I know Gogo has done some IBM programming, but he does still tinker
with his GS... you've basically seen the last of them except for 
"lost treasures" that have been lying around for awhile waiting to be
released...

oh, the've never been on the intenernet to my knowledge, though at one
time we tried to arrange to get Gogo on IRC...didn't work too well
though :(


Tim "hmm...no FTA? Nows my chance...hehehehe >:)" Meekins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Using a Stylewriter with Appleworks
From: WEZAMG@DEVAX1 (George ZAMROZ)
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:51:37 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: BHP Information Technology
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Can a Stylewriter be used with Appleworks?

If so, is there anything special that needs to be done?

I have a friend who is trying to do this and so far has had no luck.

Thanks in advance.

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From: andrep@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Andre Prellwitz)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: maxfiles
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:48:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.164253.5053@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mark writes:
>..the maxfiles command in Applesoft?  Is there an equivalent?
>Thanks. :)

Do you mean in GS/OS?  Under GS/OS, you may have AS MANY files open AS YOU
WANT, provided you have enough memory, of course.  I don't have the GS/OS
reference volume, so I don't know how big the I/O buffers are, but I assume
they are 512 bytes long (?)  And, MAXFILES is not an Applesoft command, btw,
it's a PRODOS command (or is that DOS 3.3?)  God, I haven't done Applesoft in
such a long time...

Hope this helps!

email at: andrep@balboa.eng.uci.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu (strider)
Subject: Re: Apple///
Keywords: Information request
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:14:04 GMT

umpfaif0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mike Pfaiffer) writes:

>	Last night my cousin bought an Apple/// (yes Apple///). He was just
>looking for a printer but the guy threw in the computer as well. Apart from
>some mouse damage that we repaired the computer still functions. There were
>mountains of business software and manuals with it. Unfortunately there were
>few technical manuals (only one) that could be found. Would somebody out there
>be able to send me some info on the machine so I can pass it along to my
>cousin?

Bob Consorti of ON Three Inc. has the complete Apple /// tech manual
for sale.  I bought one and find it rather handy.  Unfortunately I
don't have his phone number handy.

There are a few Washington Apple Pi members here that may also have info
you can use.

Check with Sun Remarketing at 800-821-3221.


>	I also noticed that there was an Apple// emulator in the pile of disks.
>I assume that this is a ][+ emulator. Was there ever a //e emulator put out
>for this machine? I managed to get it to run ProDOS easily, but there was a
>little trouble with DOS3.3.

The only system other than DOS 3.3 that I could run under the Apple ][+
emulation was the run-time version of Pascal from the Wizardry disk.

Titan Inc. built a pair of cards that formed a 128k Apple //e emulation kit.
I purchased the kit some 4 years ago from Sun Remarketing.  I believe this
kit will be very difficult to find now.  Shreve Systems in Louisiana might
have this.  Otherwise you'll have to do a lot of searching.


>	One thing I have to say about the early Apple machines is that they are
>like tanks. They are very hard to hurt. After all this time they still function
>as well as they ever did.

I've made several upgrades and repairs to my /// and will not trade it for
a clone or a Mac.  I added an Amiga to it, but still use /// EZ Pieces
(Apple Works) for the DataBase and Spread Sheet and the Word Processor for
page layout.  I use Apple Writer /// v4 as my preferred text editor.

Apple ///: 512k on the motherboard, 128k on the //e emulator, UniDisk 3.5,
and highly recommend everything ON Three Inc. has produced.


Scott Weddel   strider   Apple /// aficionado   eeidscw@engvms.unl.edu
    Sterling Rider       MegaChip A500C= DCTV   UNLincoln Nebraska USA
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: QuickDraw II programming problem
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:33:06 GMT

The pen mask doesn't affect font drawing.  I think what you're supposed to
do (I think this is what the tools do, you can verify it by stepping
through a call that handles drawing a dimmed item) is draw the text
normally, then use a rectangle call on top of the text to make it dimmed
(can't remember the specific call though).

eds

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:57:37 -0500 
From: "Seth D. Kadesh" <sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ramfast 3.0 bus scan?

can anyone offer any hints or suggestions as to why my ramfast 3.0
(rev. k i think) only comes up with the message "scanning scsi bus -
this may take up to 45 seconds" sometimes?  i turn on my entire system
with one switch, and it's annoying to have to turn the gs off and then
on again after everything else has powered up, because the ramfast
didn't wait and check the scsi bus and hung because the drive wasn't
ready.

it's a quantum pro-40, which shouldn't even take that long to spin
up.....

  seth ---> sk2f@andrew.cmu.edu
and his amazing signature!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Use ProDOS disks in a MAC
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:44:08 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1jb3fnINN3ud@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au>, hinchlif@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Peter Hinchliffe) writes:
> joseph@synapse.bms.com (Seymour Joseph) writes:
>>Most of us are familiar with GS System 6.0 and is ability to directly
>>mount diskettes with foriegn file systems directly on the GS desktop.
>>You just insert a Mac or DOS 3.3 (apple II) disk and the GS recognizes
>>it and mounts it pretty much like any other disk.
> 
> The ProDOS File System Extension is truly a clever piece of work: it allows
> you to manipulate files and folders on ProDOS disks from the System 7 Finder,
> just as if it was a Macintosh disk. However, it is NOT a File System Translator
> like the HFS FST in GS/OS. It simply allows an LC user to perform ProDOS Disk 
> and File operations in the Finder without having to dive back into the IIe
> emulation. 
> 
> Don't try to use it to copy Mac files to a ProDOS disk, though. Most of the
> files you'll want to copy, such as TrueType fonts, etc, and, indeed, the ProDOS

	The other problem I've seen with it is that it doesn't coexist with 
any sort of Dos Mounter/access PC type of program, so you have to make a 
decision what disks you will be accessing.

	On another note, what is the best way to download // programs from 
a mac to a Apple //?

Later.......

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From: meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy lee meekins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS-Shell information
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:41:12 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1993Jan24.165136.8050@news.csuohio.edu> damin@randell.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein) writes:
>
>Hi all...
>
>I am in need of source code for a GS Shell program. Detailed information on 
>where this could be found would be great. How about the source code to ECP-16?
>:)
>

The GNO/Shell source code is available........for a price :)


Tim "Make me an offer I can't refuse" Meekins
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: cirtech
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:12:43 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

I have a Cirtech RAM card.  In the manual, there is mention of
the ability to add SCSI to the card.  I wrote to Cirtech in
Scotland UK; the mail came back.  Are they out of business?
Is there a different address?  Does anyone know about the
"add-on" to the RAM card?               Larry

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Flipping Screens
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:00:39 GMT

Mark Manning writes:

>What's the fastest you've been able to make animation go
>and still not get the flicker?  (ie: exceed the refresh
>rate)

  Technically, flicker-free animation can only be achieved if you draw your
pixels on the screen whilst the electron beam is busy scanning somewhere
else.  Typically you want to start drawing when the video-blanking period
begins (i.e. when the beam has reached the bottom and is zipping back up
the top).  Of course, you only have a limited amount of time before the
beam starts it's way down the screen again.
  But as a rough guide, if you can draw your stuff faster than 1/60 of a
second, you'll avoid most of the flicker.

>Secondly, how many things can you handle at one time one
>the screen before everything slows down too much?  Is there
>a table of number of items crossed against the size of the
>items?  After all, the larger the items are, the slower things
>will go - right?

  Right.  Except that the speed of animation is not just a function of the
object size, but also depends on how quickly you can draw pixels onto the
video screen.  As a very rough estimate, you can fill the entire super hires
screen in about 1/10th of a second.  The less you put on the screen, the
faster it's gonna get.  So for a typical game that doesn't try to do full
screen scrolling, you can easily get a flicker-free rate of animation.
And you CAN perform full screen scrolling flicker-free if you draw the
animation off-screen then copy it on-screen during the video-blanking
period, but the frame rate will only be that 1/10th of a second, at best.

>Thanks!  :)

  You're welcome.  Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but I don't have my
calculator and instruction timing sheet handy at the moment ;-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: User IDs (the type field)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:05:36 GMT

In chapter 12 of the Toolbox Reference (volume 1), the following is said
about user IDs:

	User IDs are made up of three fields--type, auxID, and mainID--contained
	in a word parameterThe value of the mainID field is assigned by the User
	ID Manager and will always be a nonzero value.  You must provide the value
	for the type field, which has fixed assignments as shown in figure 12-7.
	
What does the statement "you must provide the value for the type field"
mean?  Does this apply to all user IDs, including those returned from MMStartUp,
or does it refer to the idTag parameter to the GetNewID procedure in the
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Floptical drives
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:11:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility


The following revelation escaped Deb's lips:
> 
> The review in Mac-User (?) commented that the Floptical had some
> problems reading lower density (1.4M, 800K, 400K) that had not
> been originally formatted on the Floptical.

    Which brand/mechanism is this?  The InSite floptical doesn't read
800K or 400K disks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mcgovern@CS.ColoState.EDU (Mike McGovern)
Subject: Applewriter 2.1 docs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:17:39 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

(Wulf Hofbauer) writes:
>Stripping off additional linefeeds can be handled from many editors. For
>AppleWriter (isn't there a freeware version out?) you'd type:
>
><ctrl-f>!#!!a<ret>
>
>... and you're done.
>
>- Wulf

I have Applewriter 2.1, but don't have any idea how to use
all of it's features.  I heard that there is an overview of
the documentation that was written up for release with 
Applewriter.  If anyone has this I would really appreciate 
a copy.  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: adri0001@student.tc.umn.edu (Wouldn't you like to know)
Subject: Super Hi Res Stuff
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:34:19 GMT


Hey folks...been quite a while since I've posted here.  I have been really busy
with things and well, the rest is history.  I've just set myself up here with
TRN and other wonderful little things, but I need to compile ELM and TIN on my
NeXT at school which is proving to be somewhat difficult.

So, after that late-nite splub, I guess I'll get to my question.  I'm working 
with some animation now...finally!  I was having problems with a phantom 
bug before.  I needed to clear out the super-hi-res screen before I did
anything to it...the problem was that I was clearing out the SHR screen and
then flipping the SHR screen on...this was causing ghost pixels to get lit up
at the bottom of the screen but ONLY when I ran the program for the first time
after launching into GNO.  I go to GNO from Prosel, run my program, and the 
first time I do, the screen is a little messed on the bottom...but every
subsequent run after that works fine.

This continued until someone told me that I needed to flip the SHR screen on
first...then clear it.  I am doing that now and it's working.  The only problem
is that you can see what was on the SHR screen before and that makes for a
rough transition.  Just a split-second before the SHR screen comes up, it's
there and it's annoying.  Can someone help me come up with a way to blank the
screen without having to deal with this problem?  I want to blank the screen
then flip the SHR screen on...that way, I'm switching to a blank screen and
not one with stuff already on it...smooth.

I've done this checking for VBL, and that also didn't work...I've tried a lot
of things, so let's hope I hear something new here.

Amrit

Hey Paul :)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joshua@sumax.seattleu.edu (bar joseph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Floptical Drive
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:47:20 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

I am thinking about buying a 21 meg floptical drive, and seek more info.
Could owners of floptical drive tell me their experiences with it?
And does anyone know where I can get the best deals in buying it?
Also, does anyone know where I can get SCSI interface cards the cheapest,
perhaps buy the drive with the card?

thanks in advance.
Pete