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From: jsast@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Jonathan S. Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Gee Mom, ah wish ah had a Ronald MacDonald Clown Mask
Keywords: soc.culture.plastic, alt.legal-system.parody, my boys lollipop
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:53:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


The backwords message junk is really unfortunate.  I don't know who started
first looking for Satanic records by playing music backwords, but whoever
it was really must have had better things to do.  The other thing I could
never figure out, why would Satan put his words into the music backwords?
I mean, your average kid doesn't listen to it that way, anyway.  What could
would it do his cause?

By the way, please don't assume Christians are people who run around trying
to censor record companies and raise braindead children.  If you go over
to rec.music.christian, you'll find a good number of people who think
backmasking and like is some kind of cruel joke.

-Jon Anderson


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  Jon Anderson                                      jsast@unix.cis.pitt.edu
      "Won't you look down upon me Jesus, you gotta help me make a stand,
       You've just got to see me through another day.
       My body's aching and my time is at hand,
       And I won't make it any other way. "                 -James Taylor
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From: sawyer@sscvx1.ssc.gov (Lee Sawyer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: U.S. government crap
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:21:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sscvx1.15APR199209210289
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <92105.110154C05705DA@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C05705DA@WUVMD (wampus)            writes...
>I'm pissed at the government so I'm going to let out some steam.  The idea
>of the US proctecting the world is B.S.!  The governments resposibility is
>to the citizens first, the rest of the world is secondary.  
  I am starting to believe venting steam is the primary purpose of the Net.
As you know, many Americans share your frustration.

>hard core welfare, but industry must come back.  Why does Busch say buy
>American and support the U.S. and then give bussinesses tax brakes to move
>out?  The problem is not just Busch, it's the whole gaovernment, including
>lobiest, and the attitude of the people.  To begin with, Reagan and Busch
 To begin with, "Busch" is a poor beer; "Bush" is a poor president.

>What is American is for the
>PEOPLE to call to arms and revolt against the government - stand up for
>what the people believe is right, not the government's.  Throughout US
>history, there has been nine or twelve rebellions excluding the civil war.
>Thomas Jefferson even stated that rebellion keeps the government healthy.
>The most famous being the Whiskey Rebellion.  
  The Civil War was our bloodiest conflict, and a good reason _not_ to take up
arms. Was states' rights worth tens of thousands of death and 150 years of bitter
regional and racial animosity ?

>Basicly what the country needs is to elect all new statesmen
>who have no political ties and have enough BALLS to stand up for the PEOPLE
>and not just for themselves!
  In that is indeed what is needed. Your and my responsibilties are : 1) Vote
for the best candidates, and actively urge others to do the same. 2) In the absence
of suitable candidates, run for office. This November, and before that in the 
primaries and run-offs, take part in a real rebellion : Vote out all the incumbants,
regardless of party.

 ==============================================================================
         Lee Sawyer     | Dept of Physics          
       (SSCVX1::SAWYER) | Univ of Texas - Arlington    
                        | Arlington, TX            
 ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.china
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: "Communist" (Re: Don't be misled!!!)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:24:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.111233.6215@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
<In article <1992Apr9.042005.4415@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
<
<> Second,
<> I'll need to be convinced that the PRC government is Communist.  (It's
<> definitely not communist [note the lower-case `c'].)
<
<I agree there...

You do?

<I feel a lot of the "Communist" nations aren't so much
<Communist as they are Marxist...

Please define `Communist' and `Marxist'.  Then I'll know which reading
to suggest.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Subject: re: US Constitution
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:46:37 GMT

TO GET A COPY OF THE US CONSTITUTION USING A UNIX BASED MACHINE
(please note that the capitals are only meant to distinguish text...type
in lower case only!)

From your home directory type:

		FTP QUAKE.THINK.COM
		
The logon name is:

		ANONYMOUS

The password is:

		YOUR ACCOUNT ID

From the prompt type:

		CD PUB/ETEXT
Then:	
		LS -L (to see all of the files)

To transfer a copy of the Constitution to your home directory type:

		GET US-CONSTITUTION.TXT

To end Ftp secession type:

		QUIT

Once back at your home directory, you will need to nroff the file to make
it readable. From your prompt type:

		NROFF -MS US-CONSTITUTION.TXT

That should do it!!!  You can also (assuming you use lpr as the print
command) pipe it directly to your printer by typing:

		NROFF -MS US-CONSTITUTION.TXT | LPR US-CONSTITUTION.TXT			
			   
GOOD LUCK!!!

-CAROL
From: vagus@saturn.sdsu.edu (Alexander Vagus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler, the great german
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:07:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshub.1992Apr8.020729.18867
Organization: San Diego State University, Math Dept.

In article <117480003@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson) writes:
>Is this supposed to be a joke? 
>  **Hitler** was a great man? Actually, WWII would have been won if he had
>left his generals to do their job. He couldn't stop interfering and screwed
>the whole thing up!!
>
>   He killed a lot more than 6 million. It was more like 15 million. Most peopleforget all the nationalists, homosexuals, Catholics, Polish trade unionists
>and assorted others who didn't happen to agree with Hitler's political/social
>agenda. 
>
>   Like any world leader, he may have had a good idea or two. However, the
>negative aspects over-ride any positive ones. 
>
>

I see nothing great about Hitler, just a man who attempted world
domination. What I see is a demented man, whose obsession
to breed a master race of Nordic types was truly unbelievable.
Hitler's fanatic desire that Germanic people should be the
dominant race was contagious to the Nazies and utterly unconceivable
to the rest of the world.

Whatever Hitler did is done and we should move forward by teaching
ourselves the art of forgetting and forgiving. Not by perpetuating 
his irrational attitude of hostility against an individual, or a group,
or a race. Earth is big enough for all of us, let's not blow each other 
up with another world war. ---No we are not close to another big one.
But it can happen !!!.


Alexander Vagus || vagus@saturn.sdsu

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
From: nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau)
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canada
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:19:52 GMT

In article <7dvhbaad@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csi056@cch.coventry.ac.uk (WEG) writes:
>In article <srheault.703289777@cunews> srheault@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Rheault Kihara) writes:
>>In <1992Apr14.211348.16938@bmerh2.bnr.ca> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>>Canada has already successfully
>>>>>applied Canadian content regulations to music, so why not
>>>>>apply it to comic strips?
>>>>
>>>>  Because it's a bad idea, that's why.
>>
>>>Why?
>>
>>>  Has the result been the growth of a mediocre Canadian musical
>>>industry?
>>
>>Yes, it most emphatically has.
>
>I agree. That bloody Robin Hood song by Brian Adams spent 15 weeks at No. 1
>in the music charts here. The song is crap!

Hey, obviously someone over there liked it...

Then again, I've had to put up with crappy music from the UK and the
US.  Fair's fair!  (Remember the Bay City Rollers?  The New Kids on
the Block?  Heck, as revenge goes, Bryan Adams doesn't even come
close! :-) )

It's obvious that our crappy music is no better than your crappy
music - but it deserves equal opportunity to bug people!  (And
remember that among all the mediocre artists, there are some good
ones.  Is it Sturgeon's rule that says:  90% of anything is crap?)

The Rhealist (Rheal Nadeau)                 |  Bell-Northern Research
Internet:  nadeau@bnr.ca                    |  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada 
BNR neither endorses nor censors my views   |  (613) 763-4266
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 06:18:49 GMT

In article <yjqj5+q.kemnitz@netcom.com> kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.181658.10298@watserv1.waterloo.edu> schamber@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY) writes:
>visited Vancouver quite a lot, since I have relatives (well, step-relatives)
>there.  On the negative side, I have heard that there is a good deal of
>racism there against Asian Indians.  

No, not especially.  You don't see Indo-Canadians portrayed stereotypically
in our media (unlike in, say, The Simpsons -- remember Apu at the Quickie-
Mart?).

>Culture wise, SCTV seems to be uniquely Canadian.  I used to have a dish
>and received CBC TV.  It seemed to me that about 90% of it was American,
>5% British, and 5% homegrown.

Now it's about 60% Canadian, and the rest split between US and British in
some fraction or other.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling (jcowling@butterfly.UVic.Ca)
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opnions disassociated)
"Don't worry, Percy, you'll get over her.  I did.  So did Baldrick, as a
 matter of fact."
				 	- E. Blackadder
-------
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re:Oscar Revulsion/Greg
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:50:59 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

Carol:

If you waste time reading my posts, then don't read them.  How hard
was that to figure out?  And don't attempt to placate me with your desire to 
"hear more from me", I don't need it.


And before you get on another self-righteous bandwagon, remember: I didn't
seek you out to include you in this argument; you sought me out.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
From: schamber@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:14:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.061849.17741@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>In article <yjqj5+q.kemnitz@netcom.com> kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz) writes:

>>In article <1992Apr7.181658.10298@watserv1.waterloo.edu> schamber@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY) writes:
>>visited Vancouver quite a lot, since I have relatives (well, step-relatives)
>>there.  On the negative side, I have heard that there is a good deal of
>>racism there against Asian Indians.  

The reference to Chamberland S should not be there: the following lines
were not written by me.
You should take a better look when you do your cut&paste...

Sylvain Chamberland
Dept. of Biology
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario.
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Oscar Revulsion/ Greg
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:50:52 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

First of all, this film (SL) was not good enough to be read as an "allegory".
And don't compare Conrad's masterpiece with this piece of unblievable dribble.

Now, to my original point about people getting the extent of their education
about serial killers from movies:
I can't think of any argument I can give that supports my point more
than the statement you posted: "There might be a Lector-type out there;
you never know.."

I do know, and this is the point.  Life came first; learn from it, not from
second-rate pop movies.

Also, you quote "A movie must be realistic, or else it's ridiculous
and doesn't deserve respect."

You do not put in quotes, statements that were never made.  Learn some simple
grammar rules.  And it is absolutely pointless to argue comparisons of musicals 
and slasher movies with what was supposed to have been a realistic study of a 
serial killer.  Your making the comparison clearly illustrates you cannot make
valid distinctions between them.

The last thing:
I am not called an idiot by anyone, especially a microcephalic computer geek
with the social graces and analytical skills of a corpse.  It's perhaps a good
thing you called me an idiot through the net, rather than in person, or you'd be 
choking on the balls that I kicked up to your throat.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: skenny@nano.engr.mun.ca (Shawn Kenny)
Subject: Re: U.S. Role in the world (was Re: Canada and the U.S.)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:41:31 GMT

irvine@en.ecn.purdue.edu (B-rent) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.130806.10490@cl.cam.ac.uk>, iaf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Innes Ferguson) writes:
>> In <1992Apr13.231910.6945@midway.uchicago.edu> 
>> mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes

>> >I reject any idea that the US and the Soviet Union were moral
>> >equivalents during the Cold War, and that the US was interested
>> >in nothing but geopolitical advantage.
>> 
>> If you think the US goes around invading countries, supporting
>> dictators, and perpetrating acts of barbarism simply for the
>> good of humanity then you really have been conditioned by your
>> politicians and media.
>>
>To think they do it just to do it is equally naive-brainwashed.
>Secondly, not all of the governments supported are dictators.
>In fact, there has been a great democritizing movement in all
>the countries supported by the US.  Or doesn't that fit your
>theory?

Intervention by the gov't of <name place> into the affairs of another
country is driven by the foreign policy which always takes into account
what is best for itself. Whether democracy is promoted is another
question, the intervening country is primarily looking out for it's own
self-interest. Although somewhat of a tangent, look at the present shift
in policy from the US towards Pakistan and aligning more with India now
that the Indian-Soviet "alliance" has been dwindling.
 
>Wait a second?  Didn't you just say that the US should encourage democracy?
>Unfortunately, you have failed to do your homework.  For the most part
>the US has been an isolationist nation paying very little attention to the 
>world as a whole.  In WWI and WWII the US *reluctantly* entered the war
>when the situation deteriorated to the point where if something wasn't
>done the war would risk destroying civilization!

What? The US entry into both wars was delayed, in part, due to the
public opinion voicing concerns over US involvement. The sinking of the
Listhutania and bombing at Pearl Harbour were flashpoints which garnered 
public support -- not because "if something wasn't done the war would risk
destroying civilization". I am not denying the necessity of a US world
role, however.
--
=================================
skenny@pico.engr.mun.ca
St. John's, NF, CANADA
"Have a touton or do without'n !"
From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:06:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler, the great german
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa

Is this supposed to be a joke? 
  **Hitler** was a great man? Actually, WWII would have been won if he had
left his generals to do their job. He couldn't stop interfering and screwed
the whole thing up!!

   He killed a lot more than 6 million. It was more like 15 million. Most peopleforget all the nationalists, homosexuals, Catholics, Polish trade unionists
and assorted others who didn't happen to agree with Hitler's political/social
agenda. 

   Like any world leader, he may have had a good idea or two. However, the
negative aspects over-ride any positive ones. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: tag@ptnext.claremont.edu (Taylor Gilbert)
Subject: L.A. Jazz Hisotry info NEEDED
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:03:33 GMT


	I am working on a paper on the history of L.A. Jazz scene
and the key musicians that were a part of it.  
	I am looking for texts that talk about the racism of the Los Angleles  
police department, I have heard that during the 50's that they had a 
policy of stopping all African-Americans headed west to Santa Monica or Venice
in an attempt limit their exposure and keep them downtown.  
	Also there are accounts of police standing outside of jazz clubs
and trying to pursuade patrons, white patrons, to not go into the clubs.
	i am reading Charles Mingus' autobiography and am trying to locate
some of the texts in the bibliography of Mike davis' _City of Quartz_ he writes  
briefly on the subject pgs 62-64 and notes 111-116.  
	The texts that I can find as yet on the subject talk abou L.A. jazz  
artists leaving to go to new york, but they dont give much reasons why.  It is  
asumed that the New York jazz scene was just the naturtal place to go,  but  
there are other reasons for why they left.  Ornette Coleman is a prime example

	anyway if anyone can give me any leads on personal accounts or anything  
that could help me get data on the history of the L.A. Jazz scence from 1940's  
to the 1960's  It would be appereciated.

				thanks
					tag
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless,soc.culture.usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:00:03 -0400 
From: Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Gee Mom, ah wish ah had a Ronald MacDonald Clown Mask
	<204630@unix.cis.pitt.edu>

If records have satanic messages in reverse, then shouldn't playing them
normally impart Christian values?

For that matter, what fuckhead decided that people actually go through
the trouble of listening to backwards music?  

On the bright side, maybe some poor stupid depressed youth will see the
show, and make certain he AIM PROPERLY!

					Tom the non hacker
					Read my lips, no second term
					Buchanan in 92!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Subject: Re: Oscar revulsion/Greg
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.170219.73631@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>I am absolutely sick of this topic, and don't feel like sustaining it
>over the course of several weeks.  You don't know what you're talking 
>about, and don't know enough to realize it.  You're
>intellectually unarmed, and not worth the effort.  Every line you post
>validates your utter pale knowledge; you bury yourself with your ignorance.
>
>If it is important for you to win these self-created trivial affronts to 
>secure your sense of being , and if this can only be fulfilled in arena 
>such as this, then post away.  Consider yourself a winner.


Kathi,

Take a deep breath...

If you don't agree with the man, then debate his ideas.  Don't stoop to
degrading him personally.  He probably should not have called you an
idiot, but why did you prove him correct by making crude comments about his
anatomy? You rail against his "pale knowledge" and "ignorance" [did I use
those quotations right? :-) ], but I have yet to be enlightened by any of
your posts.  I really am interested in your ideas and why you hold certain
opinions.  Please post these instead of the angry rantings.  Angry ranting
just take up space and waste my reading time. 

Thanks...hope to hear from you in this group again.

-Carol 

Ps.  I never thought of Lector as a believable character.  SL terrified me
because like Jody, I was drawn to Lector even though he was a monster.   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: muller@noao.edu (Beatrice Muller)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:49:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.145443.636@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:
>
>After all, we're more open than either Japan or Western Europe WRT to immigrants.  Presently the U.S. population is over 1/3 non-white (African, Asian and
>Hispanic) and unlike Japan, who don't permit other Asian immigrants to vote,
>most of our immigrants do eventually choose to become citizens

Well, no immigrants in the states have the right to vote unless they become
CITIZENS. Are your sure that immigrants in Japan are not allowed to become
citizens?

>Western Europe as well doesn't allow their former workers to become citizens
>unless they're European by birth.

Nonsense! Where did you get that information from?

Beatrice


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