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From: scotth@felix.filenet.com (Scott Hopson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Finger and .plan, .project
Date: 25 Jul 92 08:18:11 GMT
Reply-To: scotth@fritz.filenet.com (Scott Hopson)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

Since the finger and .plan, .project question has reared it's ugly head
again, I thought I'd put in my $.02

Here's a program that responds to readers of your .plan or .project files.
You need to make them named pipes. Use "/etc/mknod .plan p" and
"/etc/mknod .project p". You must be sure that this daemon gets started
after your system is rebooted or readers like "finger" will hang. I use
cron to start the daemon since our systems goes down every weekend for
backups.

--------------------------------CUT HERE----------------------------------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <time.h>
#include <sys/file.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>

static char *project = "Something very very secret...\n";
static char *plan    = "To catch the person who is fingering me...\n";
static char *msg     = "\nYou Fingered me on ";
static char *msg1    = "\n Caught you... Ha Ha\n\n";

char *getenv();

main()
{
int fd1,fd2;
int len1,len2,len3,len4;
char *buffer;
char projectPath[80];
char planPath[80];
long t;

    if((buffer = getenv("HOME")) == NULL)
    {
	perror("getenv");
	exit(0);
    }
    
    strcpy(projectPath,buffer);	    /* get the paths for .plan, .project */
    strcpy(planPath,buffer);
    strcat(projectPath,"/.project");
    strcat(planPath,"/.plan");

    len1 = strlen(project);
    len2 = strlen(plan);
    len3 = strlen(msg);
    len4 = strlen(msg1);

/*** start daemon code *************************************************/

    if(fork() != 0) exit(0);	    

    close(0);
    close(1);
    close(2);

    fd1 = open("/dev/tty",O_RDWR);
    ioctl(fd1,TIOCNOTTY,0);		/** detach from controlling TTY **/
    close(fd1);

/*** end daemon code ***************************************************/

    while(1<2)	/* loop forever */
    {					/* finger reads .project first */
	fd1 = open(projectPath,O_WRONLY);   /* blocks until read */
	write(fd1,project,len1);   /* write your message for .project */
	close(fd1);
	fd2 = open(planPath,O_WRONLY);	    /* blocks until read */
	write(fd2,plan,len2);	/* write your .plan messages */
	write(fd2,msg,len3);
	time(&t);		/* I tell the user the current time */
	buffer = ctime(&t);
	write(fd2,buffer,27);
	write(fd2,msg1,len4);
	close(fd2);
    }

}

--------------------------------CUT HERE----------------------------------

Note: this is not a perfect example, but you should be able to modify it
to suit your own needs.

Have Fun....

-- 
Scott Hopson   (scotth@filenet.com)
From: ssoni@cs.colgate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: unix mail
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:23:00 GMT

What kind of editor is used for the mail in unix?
What are the cursor positioning and test modification cmds?

ANY help is appreciated,
EMAIL: ssoni@csnext.colgate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
From: dave@soil.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Graham)
Subject: WP 5.0 to troff, nroff
Keywords: WordPerfect, WP, wp. troff, nroff
Reply-To: dave@soil.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Graham)
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:46:11 GMT

I am looking for a WordPerfect to troff translator.

I was just writing up another man page and I thought all of a sudden,
why can't I just do this in WordPerfect, and save the file as text,
then rename it man_page.1 .   Well, as you might guess this idea
did not play well with my superiors.  But this does not rule
out the possibility entirely.  If I could find a WordPerfect to
troff translator, I could still write man pages in WordPerfect
and produce the troff files which my superiors request.
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From: PHYOBYRNE@bodkin.ucg.ie (Chris O Byrne)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Help. Direct access to the SCSI port.
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:46:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: adm.31571

Hi,

We have a large number of WORM disks with a lot of data on them
which needs to be analysed. We also have a SCSI WORM drive. The
filing system used on the WORM disks is totally non-standard.

Is it possible to send low-level SCSI commands to a device on the
SCSI bus? Or - is it possible to read blocks of data raw from a
SCSI device? The hardware we have is a Hewlett-Packard series 700,
running HP-UX.

Please respond to me directly, as I am not subscribed.

Thanks,
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Fax      +353-91-25700          not what you want it to do"
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E-Mail   <PHYOBYRNE@BODKIN.UCG.IE>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: c0408982@techst02.technion.ac.il (Michael Gleibman)
Subject: the .elm file
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 12:28:04 GMT



Hello!


Can you explain me , please , the usage of the .elm file .
Any help is appreciated . Thank you in advance . 
                               Michael Gleibman .

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: becker@eng.umd.edu (Berkemeyer S. Cuellar)
Subject: vt100 terminfo entry???
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:20:20 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park


	Hi,
		This may be a FAQ but I looked around and didn't find it
	I'm looking for a "terminfo" entry for a vt100 terminal so I can
	add additional features to it. I pasted the vt100 entry  from the
	 /etc/termcap and did a 'captoinfo' but the result is not the same 
	as the "vt100" entry provided with the sun OS.

		I called sun and they told me that this is copyrighted stuff
	:-( (This is for Sparc2). If somebody could give me a hint it'll be
	greatly appreciated.

		Thanks all.

			Becker Cuellar.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From:  Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu> 
Subject: Re: question on "&"
Reply-To:  Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu> 
Organization: ARCI, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:02:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.122936.3374@alf.uib.no> buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R  
Olsen) writes:
[long drawn out answer deleted]

Apparently, new users cannot ask questions in comp.unix.questions.  Maybe there  
should be a more appropriate group.
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606.254.4060 (P)	President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.wizards
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Making ``.plan'' EXECUTE a Program ???
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: CONVEX Realtime Development, Colorado Springs, CO
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:19:49 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of sadkins@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott W. Adkins):
:In article <bharat.711752774@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> bharat@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bharat Shyam) writes:
:>Make your .plan a named pipe. (See "man mknod"). then have a program
:>that writes to it. It will sleep until the finger daemon reads from it,
:>whence your prog  will be awakened and the finger daemon will read 
:>what your program is writing.
:
:Also, check the finger man page to make sure that it will actually support
:pipes.  The version of finger on my system, running Ultrix v4.2 specifically
:ignores any .plan and .project files that is not a regular file (i.e. a named
:pipe or a symbolic/hard link).  Here is a sample from the man page here...
:
:     The user's .plan or .project file cannot be a link to another file.  If
:     either of these files is something other than a regular file, it will be
:     ignored.
:
:At least on the other Unix system I have access to, Sun OS Unix, it allows
:such things.  It it is worth while checking first though....

A hard link to a regular file remains a regular file.  The on-disk inode
refcount is simply non-singular.

--tom
-- 
    Tom Christiansen      tchrist@convex.com      convex!tchrist


    "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How to increase transfer speed in Kermit
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:42:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <25JUL199219285170@oregon.uoregon.edu>, ccyang@oregon.uoregon.edu (Chun-Ching Yang) writes:
> I just bought a 14,400 Modem. However, after trying to download the data from
> the VAX in the university, I found the download speed from the mainframe to my
> Mac was slow. The transfering speed was about 560 byts in each  TWO seconds. If
> the high speed modem worked fine, then the transfer speed should be about
> 1,440  in ONE second. (Is that right?)
> I have check the VAX and the modem there is 14,400. I don't expect that the
> speed can  reach 1440 in a second but the speed I got was so slow. How come?
> 
> Can anyone help me solve this problem?
> 
> 
>                                                         Yang
--------------
	Is this a Unix question??
	Did you check that the modems actually connected at high speed?
	Were packets being repeated because of errors on the line?
	For further questions on Mac Kermit I suggest you send a message to
Frank da Cruz, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu, and please include version numbers
of both Kermits.
	Joe D.
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: stupid question from a neophyte user
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

how the hec do I get something simple like this to work:

  If ($TERM
  !== "sun" || $TERM!== "sun-cmd")
     then .........
  endif

in csh  ????

it keeps giving all kinds of errors?!! If I caps If, it gives me one kind, if
i lower case if, gives me another set-- why in sam's whatchamacallit should
"if" be case sensitive. Do I put "then" on the 1st line? do I put then on the
2nd line? do I preced then with a ";" (in sh? I've seen it both ways);
do I put "" around "$TERM"? do I use != or !== or ~==?? is the ( ) test above
case sensitive? should I upcase/lowercase term and sun before comparing them?

why is unix so complicated compared to vms dcl-- now that's a script language,eh?
thanx for answering,
frustrated at being forced to use unix instead of vms,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
 AND ALSO THIS INSANE VI EDITOR!!!!

 ... my gawd --IT'S CASE SENSITIVE--WHAT JUNK!!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: 890232a@dragon.acadiau.ca (Steve Astels)
Subject: QUESTION: where to get C source for unix cmds ?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:58:34 GMT



This question has probably been asked _countless_ times before, but here
it is again: does anyone out there know where I can get C source code
for the standard unix commands (ie write, cat, ls, etc) ?

thanks!

-- Steve

-- 

       Stephen Astels               "I am the lizard king,
                                     I can do anything..."
     890232a@acadiau.ca                         - Jim Morrison
From: weeks@astroatc.UUCP (Pat Weeks)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: File Creation Date
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:02:03 GMT
Reply-To: weeks%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edu (Patrick Weeks)
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI


	Is there a way to show a file original creation date in unix or does
it only keep track of its last update??



						Ghostwheel

internet:  weeks%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Subject: Re: Writing to multiple terminals
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:49:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.000308.18388@news.acns.nwu.edu> navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra) writes:
=1) Get the expect script called 'kibitz'. This not only lets other users
=   see what you are doing on your machine but also lets them participate.
=   As a teaching tool, it has it merits but all users will be granted full
=   permissions of the person who initiates the kibitz, so if that is not
=   what you want, try #2

One should point out that in order to build expect, one needs tcl and
BSD UNIX. The port to SV should be relatively simple, but no one has
posted the necessary patches, as far as I know.
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From: space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org (Lars Soltau)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Binary editor in Unix?
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:22:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: United Federation of Planets

>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 92 20:46:28 GMT, zzang@whale.stat.ufl.edu (Zhuo Zang) said:

> Hello,
> Do we have any binary editor in  Unix ?
> I need to edit the strings in binary file sometimes
> rather than re-configure and re-compile it.

If you just want to change strings, use GNU emacs. Be sure to switch on
overwrite-mode, though, because you had better not change the size of the
executable.
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: sh vs. filename extensions
Date: 30 Jul 1992 19:32:00 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com
Keywords: sh filename extensions

In article <1992Jul29.225649.5471@vine.cp10.es.xerox.com> BHamilton.LAX1B@Xerox.com writes:
>Is there any way to test filename extensions using sh?  Using csh,
>I can simply say
>
>	if ($f:e == "Z") then...

case $f in
*.Z) ... ;;
esac
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.wizards
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Subject: Making ``.plan'' EXECUTE a Program ???
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:04:54 GMT


Hi,
I know its possible as I just saw it today. When you "finger" someone's
userid, how to make .plan execute a program whose results should be
displayed on the person's screen who is executing finger command.
(I guess what I want to do is that when finger comes to your directory
 to read .plan file, it should not just read .plan file but this should
 trigger the execution of a program)

Thank you very much!

--nasir
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca

(today I used finger on a userid, it displayed all the info in a pretty
 standard way nutill it reached the "plan:" line as at this moment this
 person's plan was displayed in a way that only a program/script could do).
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez)
Subject: chasing memory leaks..
Organization: UNH Marine Systems Engineering Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:51:23 GMT


Is there a way to find out how much memory was allocated at a given address?
I'd like to have a couple routines ("mymalloc" and "myfree") keep track of how
much memory has been malloc'ed and free'ed in certain routines.  Mymalloc is
easy; just add the size to a leak tracking variable.  Myfree needs to be able
to look up the address being freed to find out how much to subtract from the
tracking variable.  I looked at mallinfo(), but I couldn't figure out how to
get to where the address->size mapping is stored.

Thanks,
Roger

--
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting
 than the question of whether a submarine can swim" - Edsger W. Dijkstra 

Roger Gonzalez   -  rg@msel.unh.edu
Division of Bit Banging and Reluctant Robotics
UNH Marine Systems Engineering Laboratory, Durham, NH  03824-3525
(603) 862-4600 -4399 (fax)

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: swb56279@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve)
Subject: System msgs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:12:27 GMT

 I was curious if anyone or system actually uses msgs for what it is supposed
 to be used for (i.e. system msgs), or is it basically used as garbage as it
 is here at UIUC.?? (-:  Just call me curious

			Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison)
Subject: CDMROM, hooking up (cheap) to Xenix or Unix????
Reply-To: steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:42:42 GMT
Keywords: CDROM old Xenix ISC Unix cheap XT/AT adapters

I have a collection of three older Unixes; Xenix 286 2.2(something), Xenix 386
2.(something) and ISC Unix 2.0.   I want to add CDROM to any or all and I am 
trying to find if the XT/AT adapters that one can get cheaply are a way to
get going.  I know that for more money you can get a scsi adapter but I would
like to get in for the least $$'s.

So: Will Xenix/Unix recognize them?  Or, is there a public domain device 
driver for any of these older *nixs??

Thanks

-steve

steve@crash.cts.com   in sunny San Diego, Cali
From: hamilton@vine.cp10.es.xerox.com (Bruce A. Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: sh vs. filename extensions
Summary: how test filename extensions using sh?
Keywords: sh filename extensions
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:56:49 GMT
Reply-To: BHamilton.LAX1B@Xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corp., El Segundo, CA, USA

Is there any way to test filename extensions using sh?  Using csh,
I can simply say

	if ($f:e == "Z") then...

to test for a .Z file.  I can't find anything about substring matching
in Kochan and Wood "Unix Shell Programming" (except under ksh).

Thanks,

-- 
--Bruce
BHamilton.LAX1B@Xerox.COM
310/333-3538
From: csieh@amiganet.chi.il.us (Connie Sieh)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: 'mon.out' files
Date: 20 Jul 92 22:49:41 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <olt.711646748@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu>, olt@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott
Olt) writes:
>I keep finding files called 'mon.out' scattered around my directories.
>They aren't readable, so I have no clue as to what they are or where
>they come from. Does anyone have an idea why these files keep popping
>up? Nobody around here seems to know anything about them...
>
>(Silicon Graphics 4D/310, Irix 3.3)
>
>Thanks
> 
>-- 
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>Illinois State Geological Survey           | UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!sdo
>"Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass."
>                              -- Frank Zappa

The mon.out files are produced from the "-p" option of the compile.  They are
for profiling programs.  The prof command can be used to analyze them.
From: vasu@slow.cs.usu.edu (Vasudevarao Nugala)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: How to increase the Maximum limit on Shared Memory
Keywords: SUNOS 4.1, Shared memory
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:29:11 GMT
Organization: Utah State University


Hi:
  Subject kind of gives an idea, what the problem is. I am running a
Client-Server model with shared memory and sockets. This runs smoothly until
certain point, i.e., with a smaller problem size. Well, when I increase size
of the problem my program dies, giving a message "Not enough memory on the 
device" (errorno is 28). I would expect that the problem is exceeding the Maximum
size. We rebuild the kernel increasing the maximum limit to 3Meg. But it still
dies. Can anyone please let me what's that I am missing? Am I (ie., My Sys Admin)
building the kernel properly? Please e-mail any comments or suggestions. When
does memory swapping come into picture?
  Thanks.

P.S: I am running this on SUNOS 4.1, SUN 4/110 workstations. When I do vmstat it
shows more than 3Meg of free memory. And a fast question: How can one get BUS
alignment error (through xdbx) through malloc. My sequential 
version of the above Client-Server model gives that message, but doesn't 
return a NULL. 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: chet@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (Chet Ramey)
Subject: Re: Bourne shell question about $ expansion
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:46:22 GMT

$ Is it possible to $-expand a shell variable whose name is stored
$ in another shell variable?  What I am looking for is the equivalent
$ of
$ 
$ 	xxx=bar
$ 	bar=foo
$ 	echo $($xxx)

eval echo \$$xxx
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	-- Arthur Schlesinger

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: pew@cs.brown.edu (Peter E. Wagner)
Subject: Re: 'mon.out' files
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:48:26 GMT

In article <olt.711652136@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu> olt@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott Olt) writes:
>I wrote:
>>I keep finding files called 'mon.out' scattered around my directories.
>[rest deleted]
>
>It appears that a program was compiled with the -p option, and the mon.out
>files are created by that program and are used by prof(1).
>

I keep finding the file 'debug' scattered around my directories.  The
contents are:

pwagner started at 23 Jul 92 14:33:04.091
Quitting

I haven't been able to isolate what is dropping this file.  Anyone
know?

----------------------------------------------------------------
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52 E 13th St. Apt. 5E       	    	      pew@BROWNCS.BITNET
New York, NY 10003  	    	    	      uunet!brunix!pew
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: matess@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Eliza Strickler)
Subject: Info on Linix wanted
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:30:11 GMT

I was interested in getting UNIX for a DOS 
machine. I heard that Linix was a good and
free version of UNIX for DOS. Does anyone
have any experience or information on this?
Does UNIX on a DOS machine get rid of 
memory and adressing problems?

Any information is appreciated,
Elizabeth

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