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From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Kira Fans
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:59:15 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

In article <1993Jan19.223057.2474@sx.mont.nec.com>, ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:
|> Hmm..the list is starting to get grow.
|> 
|> Roland Besserer
|> J.Marc Chabot
|> Gregory O. Harp
|> Thor Iverson
|> Ellison Chan
|> Louis Ting
|> Christian Gadeken
|> Ken Papai
|> Johnny Piscitello
|> Gayle Gamble
|> Rick Gualtieri
|> 
|> Most people like her spunk, others think she's looker.

Her spunk does not bother me.  I think she is good looking but
Dax is the one that raises my temperature and heart rate.  

-- 
David Johnson
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From: c92aja@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Asim Javed)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TOS computer voice
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:50:13 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: c92aja@msc5.comlab

In article <9301210630.AA16618@cerebus.physics.utoronto.ca> news@shark.physics.ubfd.ca writes:
>
>        Does anyone know who did the voice for the Enterprise computer in
>TOS?  Is it just my imagination, or does it sound like a very "digitized"
>Majel Barrett?
>

To put it simply, YES it's Majel.  She also does the computer voice in TNG.
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Rec.Arts.DS9.Argh.post! READ! RESP!
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:24:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.194157.13919@bsu-ucs> 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
writes:
>
>Kira lovers list?
>is this neccessary ?
>why not a Dax list?
>or a Spot the Cat list ?
>
>Odo nose its weird we know that stop the posts!
>
>Klingons show hooters so what? (sssswwwwiiiinnnnggg thats what!)
>
>Yes the Comet is odd so is the ship designs! argh!
>Credits WE DON'T need no stinking credit squabbles!
>No more music stuff either argh!
>
>Well write to the groups
>
>rec.arts.klingon.hooters
>rec.arts.odo.nose
>rec.arts.ds9.bullcrap
>rec.arts.spot
>rec.arts.ds90210
>rec.arts.get.a.life
>
>signed,
>Stimpi the seeker on the great Spot!


I agree with you on most of those points, and might even add "Trek 
Body Parts" (i.e. Troi's, Picard's, etc.) to the list.  However, I
really don't mind them being here--after all, if someone gets his
jollies out of reading stuff like that, I say let him!  I use the
trn newsreader, and use the D and J keys quite frequently.  Considering
how rarely I read the group, and how fast messages pile up in it, 
I _have_ to.  There are killfiles that people can use, but personally
I think that killfiles are just silly wastes of time that take up
disk space and are too hard to figure out.  They also waste time at
the beginning of each group by having to scan through every message
and junk the unwanted ones.  Trn makes that unnecessary.

To get back to the original subject, I read what I want to and skip
what I'm not interested in.  Why don't you do the same, instead of 
whining about it?  Take the action YOURSELF, don't expect the rest 
of the net.community to pander to your every need just because YOU
don't like a particular message thread.

There's a response for you.

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: Jean-Luc & Beverly
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:04:02 GMT

gwendoly@fraser.sfu.ca (Gwendolyne Chua) writes:

>I guess I've missed lots of earlier episodes of ST:TNG, and probably 
>crucial ones, too.  However, it seems to me that there's some chemistry
>between Jean-Luc and Beverly (for instance, there was a lot of discomfort
>in two episodes, one where Beverly meets Vash, and the other where 
>Jean-Luc hears about Odon's (the trill) feelings towards Beverly). I also
>seem to remember hearing that the two characters have been romantically
>linked before, but then again, I could be mistaken.  Does anybody know
>for sure what the deal is between Jean-Luc and Beverly?

There is no deal  The producers have just been messin' wi'us for the
past 5 years.  They don't want TNG to turn into a soap opera they said.


bugger them i said, but do they listen to me?  heck no.




LJC


-- 
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From: rapp@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Brian Rapp)
Subject: Takei quote:  "Yes Star Trek VII" (Re Shatner quote: No Star Trek VII)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:45:39 GMT

Following his 1/21 appearance at UDel, George Takei (Sulu) said that
there would be a seventh film, which will begin shooting in the summer.

Granted, George is famous for his "Adventures of Captain Sulu" remarks,
but I tend to believe his claim about the upcoming film.

So, at least at this time, ST VII is in the planning stage.

For better or worse,
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From: johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Keiko & Molly (was DS9 rumor *SPOILER*)
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:20:09 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

In article <rawdon.728159736@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <C1G479.Ltw@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>>In article <9301260356.AA26742@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) writes...
>>>I can't say I'd grieve in the least if they decided to toast Molly, Kira,
>>>and Keiko in one fell swoop.  All the rest of the characters are close to 
>>>perfect!
>
>Well, I don't care for Keiko or Molly because they add nothing at all to the
>show (and never have, even when they were on TNG).  I like Kira, though.
>

	Not entirely true. The scene between Keiko and Nog's father, trying
to convince him to send Nog to her school was priceless. I loved the 
explanation of the Ferengi school system (whoever survives...graduates!)
Keiko's character motivated that interaction, as well as the funny
scene in the schoolroom where Nog is grabbed by the neck and ordered not
to sit next to "the HU-man!".

	I also think that the issue of being married and raising children in 
the dangerous atmosphere of DS9 is an interesting issue that is worth 
exploring.

	Now I will open myself up to being flamed:

	"I think characters like Keiko and Molly offend many Trekkers because 
they are generally offended by non-action, interpersonal types of stories. 
They brand it as 'soap-opera'. Especially with the number of males populating 
this newsgroup, it is no surprise that the Keiko storyline, intended by
the producers to appeal to the female part of the audience, is getting dissed 
by this newsgroup."

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Subject: Time frame when Bajor was taken over by the cardassians.
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:29:59 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

	I was wondering if anyone has noticed that the Cardassians took 
over Bajor some sixty years ago, roughly the same time frame as the end of 
Star Trek VI. Is this just a conincidence, or do the writers have something 
in store?

Later.......

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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Rating of Diana Muldaur
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:39:56 GMT


	This is my rating of Star Trek females:

Diana Muldaur (2nd Season TNG): 3.4
Diana Muldaur ("Is There in Truth No Beauty?"): 4.2
Diana Muldaur ("Return to Tomorrow"): 5.7
Diana Muldaur (Planet Earth, Roddenberry's failed series): 6.8
Diana Muldaur (L.A. Law): 7.7
Diana Muldaur (L.A. Law, falling down an elevator shaft): 10.0

						-Quinn
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From: aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amal A. Abbasi)
Subject: Re: TNG's Funniest Moments
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:13:53 GMT

I loved the scene in Rascals after little Picard threw a tantrum wanting
to see his father.  After discussing the children's boredom, little Picard
slips and says "Thank you, Number One".  He and Riker exchanges worried
looks and look at the Ferengi.  Little Picard then says "He's my number
one dad!" as they hug with the cheesiest smiles I've ever seen.  My
friends and I were dying after seeing that one.
-- 
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aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu   |         -- Captain Jean Luc Picard
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From: davidm@consilium.com (David S. Masterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: troi
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:37:43 GMT
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California
In-reply-to: ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU's message of 25 Jan 93 01:40:19 GMT
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>>>>> On 25 Jan 93 01:40:19 GMT, ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU said:

> I would have liked to have seen more done with Troi's psi powers.

Definitely.  The one open-ended question I would have like to seen more of was
the supposedly psychic connection that Riker and Troi established as evidenced
in Encounter at Farpoint.  They certainly let that drop in a hurry...

> There have been events in which Troi has been involved in hand-to-hand
> combat, but when she got into such a situation, couldn't she have sent an
> emotional blast--she is a projective empath, as well as a receptive, is she
> not?-- that would cause her opponent to have at least a nasty headache, or
> would perhaps throw the image of his worst nightmare in front of his eyes?

What makes you think she is projective (outside the close connections with
family [Luwaxana] and friends [Riker])?

> In short, I really think that the writers were given a VERY useful set of
> potential plot-devices which they have not fully exploited.

It might at least be interesting to explore Troi's abilities a little more
and thereby explain why they haven't exploited it more...
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Moriarty's explanation ***Ship in a Bottle SPOILERS***
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:38:44 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <spinuzzi.727993318@ponder> spinuzzi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Spinuzzi Clay "not spinzunni") writes:

>Moriarty was brilliant, and I kept wondering how he could have left such a
>huge flaw in his story. Well, it *wasn't* a flaw to him -- it seemed the most 
>logical explanation. 

It wasn't a flaw in his story.  Moriarity needed an excuse that
would enable him to walk "out" of the holodeck, while leaving
the physics an unsettled question.  He expected, and wanted, 
Picard to question his explanation, because, while questioning how
it was done, Picard might discover how it *could* be done.
From: srivastk@egr.msu.edu (Aseem Ku Srivastava)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who plays Tarshara Yar?
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:29:01 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
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In article <lm35qaINN48@lovelady.cs.utexas.edu> jfrench@cs.utexas.edu (Jason French) writes:
>Beth Troussaint played ISHARA Yar.  It would be pretty confusing if her name
>was Tashara when her sister was named Tasha, but I could she how you could
>make this mistake.  Beth Troussaint does resemble Linda Hamilton from the
>T.V. show Beauty and the Beast and the movie Terminator II.  I don't know
>if Beth Troussaint has been in anything execpt this guest starring in Star
>Trek:  The Next Generation.
>
>Jason French
>jfrench@cs.utexas.edu


She did some guest appearances in Matlock, I think, and was the star
of a USA network movie (the name escapes me...) where she displays
much more than her acting standing up... if you know what I mean :)
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Moriarty's explanation of his existence
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:01:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan25.230148.28555
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <spinuzzi.727993318@ponder> spinuzzi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Spinuzzi Clay "not spinzunni") writes:
>
>The remarkable thing about this explanation is that it made perfect sense to
>Moriarty, and I think he was a little surprised that Picard continued to
>question it. See, Moriarty was steeped in the beliefs of his period and his
>writer, and those beliefs included a fundamental belief that the mind
>remains supreme.
>
>Moriarty was brilliant, and I kept wondering how he could have left such a
>huge flaw in his story. Well, it *wasn't* a flaw to him -- it seemed the most 
>logical explanation. In other words, the writers used this explanation not to 
>fool Picard, but to showcase Moriarty's way of thinking and to underscore how 
>much he was a "man out of time."
>
>Comments?

Rene Descartes - "Cogito ergo sum."

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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: troi
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 13:14:48 GMT

 >> The "I just want Troi brutally hurt, but she can stay in the show"
 >You mean the new Picard maneuver, no, torture's to good for her.
 >> The "I want Troi killed and she can never come back" committee.
 >>  (For slightly better then wimps and/or fired TNG writers)
 >HELL YES, DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE
 >Cool, count me in on 4, 7, and 8.  Although I'm not thrilled with Dax,

Ugh... this is PATHETIC!  Troi happens to be one of the best and most
interesting characters on the ship (and one of the "biggest" as well :).
She has shown more growth and potential than any other character over
the last couple of seasons.  Any kids who can't deal with an intelligent,
attractive, interesting WOMAN should just go back to watching cartoons
or wrestling or who knows what.  This "DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE" nonsense is
totally ridiculous...

Dax and Kira are also very good!  Star Trek already lost one of their
women characters, and Ro seems to be on hiatus, so the last thing they 
need to do is lose another female.  The show is VASTLY more interesting 
with them that it would be without them.  Troi especially provides a very 
unique point of view.  People who are intimidated by her body or her 
relationship and authority with Picard would probably just be better off
watching Space Rangers.  :->
From: hroth@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Harris Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: This Kira List Nonsense
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:48:27 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In article <1993Jan21.233123.28709@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>
>I completely agree. Add me to the list of people who want to see the "Kira
>list" taken to e-mail.
>
Wonderful!  Post a message asking to be added to a list of people who want
posts about another list taken to e-mail.

Doctor, you are being most illogical!
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From: jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef)
Subject: Re: Galley?
Organization: Calvin College
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:41:42 GMT

tcollicutt@mta.ca writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.002603.22917@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, cbittel@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Clinton Bittel) w>---------------------------------------------------------------
>             In STOS, they did indeed have a galley.  I don't have the name
>of the exact episode on hand, but someone out there probably has.  I seem to
>remember an episode where Kirk got a call, while on the bridge, to the effect
>that what went into the ovens was not what came out.  It could have been 
>meatloaf turning into turkey.  Anyone remember the title?

 It was "Charlie X", the superhuman teenager.  :)  It was Thanksgiving,
and Kirk gave an order to make the meatloaf look like turkey.
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|Calvin College Grand Rapids MI |SPOCK: "The occipital part of my head seems
|jverho80@calvin.edu            |to have impacted the arm of this chair."

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From: jrl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Robby La Farge)
Subject: Re: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:49:14 GMT

According to the Conversational Klingon tape and the Klingon to English 
English to Klingon Dictonary, the FEDERATION Standard is english.  
The tape goes on the included a the Klingon phrase that asks "Do you speak
Federation Standard?" of which I have yet to learn how to say correctly in
Klingon.  
Hope this help
Robby LaFarge
  
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From: hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu (Eric Hvozda)
Subject: Request:  episode listing
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: ack@fubar.bk.psu.edu
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:53:53 GMT

Does anyone out there have a listing of episodes, air date, title, and
sequence number?  The one in r.a.s.i has expired at my news site...
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From: am001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Shark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:55:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

>In article <1jtee6INNno9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith Ammann) writes:
>> 
>> Well, being a Worf fan, I have to nominate the scene in Fistful
>> of Datas after Alexander has just upped the difficulty of the
>> Wild West game, Worf takes on four baddies at once, pausing
>> briefly to say, "I am beginning to understand the appeal of 
>> this program!"
>> 
One of my favorite Worf moments was in "Disaster."  The scenes where Worf 
played mid-wife for Keiko were great.
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Hormones
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:25:27 GMT


	Until rec.arts.startrek.sex is created, I'll post
whatever I please, thank you very much.  You have no right to
tell us that we can't comment on the aesthetics of Kira and Dax
anymore than I have the right to tell you not to comment on
O'Brien's rank, Worf's spine, Odo's nose, or the design of
Nebula class starships.
	Incidentally, I'm somewhat disappointed that actual
Trekkies (Trekkers, whatever) have no problem telling others to
"get a life."  Considering how many people have spoken those
same words to *us* (including William Shatner) you would think
that we would not turn around and do it to others.  To be honest,
my first impression when I hear anyone say, "get a life", is that
the speaker himself is in need of one.
							-Quinn
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: SEASON SEVEN CONFIRMED
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:18:04 GMT
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

> After seven seasons on the little tube would not most
> agree that the writers have explored everything that
> can be explored within the constraints of TV before
> quality suffers badly? Just MHO.
>            internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

MHO: I would not agree. They have the whole galaxy to explore, and stories are
limited by only the imagination of the writers.

Most ST:TNG complaints are centered around the fact that the stories the
writers have been coming up with are more soap opera than science fiction. They
need to get off their butts and start using their imagination.
-- 
Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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