From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Hypocrasy test: (was Re: Abortion: What does God say?)
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:04:22 GMT

dlw@odi.com (Dan Weinreb) writes:


>Oh, you and your strawman "crowd".  I don't know of anyone anywhere
>who seriously thought that South American apartheid was no worse than
>discrimination everywhere: not conservatives, not neoconservatives,
>not radicals, nobody.  Your idea that loathing of apartheid was unique
>to sandal-wearing hippy liberals is unfounded in fact.


You really should research your facts better. You have made an unthinking
(or at least unresearched) instant reaction that apartheid was worse
than other forms of organized discrimination. Apartheid was bad and it
is very good to see it ending. Even more , it is good to see the situation
not disolving into civil war. I sincerely hope that the groups there can
continue to finish the transition to majority rule. When I use the term
"fad crowd" I use it advisably. If you did your research, you would
find that there are a number of countries (including the 2 that I have
discussed) that have codified discrimination. I can not supply by myself
the missing knowlege. Let me suggest two experiements that will confirm
the selective presentation of material that goes into the process. Go
to your local bookstore (or to many bookstores) and count the number
of books about South Africa , now count the number of books about
Ethiopia. If you look long enough and read enough you will begin to
realize that the interaction of Ethiopia with western civilization
and in history is at least (in my opinion more than) as much as that
of South Africa. You will also find that it is a multi-racial country
with historic and current problems. You will be lucky to find one
book that deals solely with Ethiopia whereas you will find 30-50 that
deal with South Africa. (you can enlarge this experiment to include
other under represented African nations) The second experiment is to
find the texts that deal with the Japanese discrimination and to do
a similar comparison. Just to give you a few facts to chew on... the
Koreans (some of them forced labor, some of them there for generations
but still 2nd class NON-citizens) who were in Nagasaki and Hiroshima
were not given the same medical care and were not given the same
compensation as the Japanese who were injured. It is only in the last
5 years or so that women employed full time by a firm have legally been
allowed to work past 1030 PM. This law always excluded the hostesses
and similar workers and in fact was often used to not pay women for
overtime that they "volunteered".

Try to broaden your knowlege base and to break free from the "fads".
I have here a library of several thousand volumes, many of which I
have read more than once and I am continually appalled at the 
know-nothingism attitude of the so called liberals. I expect it from
the conservatives but I expect that liberals will be more open minded.

They are not.


Charlie

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