HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: azeem@iago.caltech.edu (Azeem, Mohammad)
Subject: Re: ....this will win me a thousand enemies.......
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.043905.21099@athena.mit.edu>, anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes...
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>ADIL [mei'N saach kahou'N ga, magar phir bhi haar jaao'N ga
>                woh jhoot bolay gi aur la-jawab kar thay gi] NAJAM
>------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>	P.S.	The verse in my signature does NOT refer to Ms. Zaheer.

						Sure Sure [ ;-) ]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@sce.carleton.ca (Murad A. Mirza)
Subject: Re: An enquiry regarding EAGLE SQUAD
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:38:59 GMT

zaheer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Imrana Zaheer) writes:

>>From hassan@andromeda.rutgers.edu Wed Apr 15 15:09:53 1992
>>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:09:51 EDT
>>From: hassan@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Eagle Squad)


>>If you're messing with Karachi
>>You're messing with your life !.
>>Cause I`m gonna cut you up with a big, big knife
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>You bet your freaking life !.
>			- Eagle Squad

>>Eagle Squad 





>>Eagle Squad.
>>Rutgers University - New Brunswick.
>>Karachi is the place to be.         
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Just wondering who is this creature. Sounds to me like a BUTHCHER.[:-)]
> Perhaps this creature watched the Oscar award winner movie " Silence of
> the Lambs". This is reason this movie was rated R as childern were 
> expected to get violent after watching some very violent and scary scenes in
> the movie. However, I request to this CREATURE humbly that if this creature
> has nothing constructive to say please do not send any Flame-mails to me.
> 

> Imrana[seeking God's protection from such creatures]Zaheer

> P.S. Wish the above referenced creature is the one and only of its kind 
>      found in Karachi. Otherwise life would be miserable back in Karachi.

assalam alaikum

I am afraid of this guy too. he likes cakes too much, it seems.  Eagle
Squad didn't do much to me while in Karachi, just followed me around in
their pickups with  cakes and candlestiks.      

Murad [ who goes there! ] Mirza.
From: khant@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: please ignore only a test massage
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:12:56 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


only a test massage






Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: akgoel@plg.waterloo.edu (anil k goel)
Subject: Re: Islamic Law and Constitution
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:40:08 GMT

In article <Udt6kiq00iQCQTCbpx@andrew.cmu.edu> ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:

   Only male adult Muslims would be allowed to vote or hold
   key policy making positions. 

It is ironic that during one of the presidential elections, Maulana Maududi
found himself politically aligned with the opposition who was supporting
Fatima Jinnah's candidature for the position of the head of state. On that
occasion, the Maulana revised his opinion as stated in his book "Islamic
Law and Constitution" and supported Fatima Jinnah. Interestingly enough,
Ayub Khan (the then President) had some other Maulvis issue fatwas against
Fatima Jinnah's nomination on the grounds that it was unIslamic.

-anil 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: iqbal@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Kamran Iqbal)
Subject: Test
Originator: iqbal@neutron.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: cmh
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:04:08 GMT


This is a test message. Please ignore.
-- 
KAMRAN IQBAL	  | In the name of Allah, the beneficient, the merciful.
Dept of Elec Eng  |  "I bear witness that there is no god but ALLAH,
Ohio State Univ   |   I bear witness that MUHAMMAD is his messenger".

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Subject: Re: Qadianis, Baha'ais, Ahmadis, .. etc.
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:35:39 GMT



Dear Mr. Muhammad,

I direct thee to my ``open letter'' still on the net.
Either prove your claim that Ahmadis are non-Muslims and their
beliefs are anti-Islam from Quran or Shut Up.  Isn't it strange
that every body comes up and calls us Ahmadis Non-Muslim and
Hazrat Ahmad an imposter but can't prove the claim. Well here is
a little secret for you---if you keep on following your maulvis
with blind folded eyes, this is bound to happen. And just to get
a real life falvour of the type of knowledge your maulvis posses
and distribute, read a (now classic) letter posted by Jafry a few
weeks ago.
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Could someone please......
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:30:49 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


............redirect Mr. Jafry's postings to alt.rec.humour--regularly.
It occured to me that some thing as geniuinly hillarious as Mr. Jafry's
letters should be available to other people too, besides Pakistanis
and Indians. 

Thanks
Nasir Ahmed Noor
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mss1@cec1.wustl.edu (Muhammad Sajid Saeed)
Subject: Harassment? Toba, Toba!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:15:26 GMT

First, what harassment??? All was said in jest! Bad taste,maybe, but
harassment,toba toba! The fun now resumes...

Widen your horizons, atom heart mother!

>	I am not sure which episode you are taling about.

What am I "taling" about? The "First" Cut! The initiation of scp into
cult music ala Floyd lyrics.

>Who died and made you incharge of this noosegroup. I am sorry
>this is not Pakistan where you can scare someone not to do things.

By Jove, did I have my NRA id somewhere in my postings or what? Or did
I just sound like Sultan Rahi ?  And about me being incharge of this "noose
group" (nice coinage here!) : Did you mean I was made incharge of scp
by the person AFTER he died or BEFORE he died? Apparently you meant the
former and that seems hard! And did you not know that back in the Wild
West era, I WAS quite an angler with nooses? So I guess I'd be the
heir apparent of the imaginary scp moderator !


>	taking cheep shots at the school
Pretty cheep,eh? Miss Manners and her misdemeanors!

>> A momentary lapse of reason here?                                  
>No perhaps you are 'awake at the verge of insanity' 
Wide awake too! And it's killing me! "Brain damage", I guess...

>>	Am I banging my head against a 'Wall' ?
>		Yes!! be careful it will start bleeding.
Oh don't you worry about that. It'd take a lot of "Bricks in the wall" before
there's a crack "in the flesh"!


>>			Does someone need some thought control here ?   
>	You do!!
I do! I do! 

>Faryal // these are my thoughts, and not school
Maybe someday you'll have a school of thought of your own. Scary, though!

>God is real, unless declared integer
My God is for real, however declared!

"When you're one of the few to land on your feet
what do you do to make ends meet?
---
make them laugh, make them cry, make them lie down and die" !!!


		Sajid "loosening some nooses here and there" Saeed



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: qs@haithem.cray.com (Qasim M. Sheikh)
Subject: Let us discuss this!
Keywords: Human rights,  support the brave
Reply-To: qs@haithem.cray.com (Qasim M. Sheikh)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:13:44 CDT



In articles 17530 (PSAI Project Pakistan News) and 17477 (By Arun Gupta)
there is report about Akhtar Hameed Khan.  I am not reposting the article
for the sake of space.  I read the article in Economist before reading it 
on the net and wanted to post it my self but thanks to those who did.

To my utter disappointment and disgust not a single person wrote anything
about it. Netters are just too happy writing about "Baji and buchi etc." and
"bride needed" etc. and just totally ignore an article which puts the most
important problem of Pakistan as a concrete case.

Progress does not mean quality for a few,  progress means equality for all.
So instead of discussing how to industrialize Pakistan and get quality for a few
let us help the workers in trenches who are trying to provide equality for all.

Here are my Questions

1)  Can some one on the net post the poem "Sher or Ahmak"
2)  What is known about Akhtar Hameed Khan's work in sociology and much
    more importantly in Orangi Town.
3)  What is known about the lawyers who are defending Mr. Khan
4)  Should we have an organization here that can at the very least support such
    people monitarily. Perhaps such an organization already exists.


In my mind if what the article mentions as Mr. Khan's work is really true,
he is carrying out jehad in its best form.
Also, let us not make it a debate of non muslim media going after a muslim
country.  

To the person who was very upset at Imran Khan shunning Karachi here is my
response.

People like Imran Khan come and go and are much much smaller than Karachi but
Orangi town represents the soul of Karachi.  If you want Karachi to be a place
worth living for stand up and help some one who has put his life on the line
for the wretched of Karachi.

Qasim
From: amkhan@caen.engin.umich.edu (Abdul Monuem Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: EID MUBARAK TO EVERY BODY
Date: 4 Apr 92 03:14:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: engin.+Rh+wcC
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor



          EID MUBARAK     


   to all the netters of scp. 


KHAN [eid ka din hay, galay hum ko laga kar milyee]
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: A little fact I want you to know (Son of Woman)
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:01:50 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada



Don't beat around the bush. Read a letter I posted for Jamal Mubarak just
a while ago.

Nasir Ahmed Noor
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba

i did this, i did that, then he did this and i did that, then after that i
did some other stuff.........why don't you mention what your DIDN"T do and are
trying to avoid!!!!

Sir, why don't you, even once, answer article in which I am discussing
the compound phrase Khatam-un-Nabiyyin in light of Arabic language rules
and a few Quranic Ayya.  Strange thing is that you dont even mention that
article.....fact is visible, why dont you admit that you dont have any
answer for that and you dont want to admit that Noor is right either?
Now please dont follow it to reply to my older articles which you have 
already tried to reply to many times. Talk about the one I mentioned above.
If it is not clear that which one I am talking about, ask and I will repost it.
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: STOP PRESS: Najeeb out! Kabul falls to Mujahideen
Date: 16 Apr 1992 13:41:24 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu



>>>In article <1992Apr15.180831.16293@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
	mmasood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mohammed A Masood) writes:
>:::
>:::	WHY UN "PEACE" EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD BE DENOUNCED
>:::

Wa makaroo wa makara Allah, in allah khair-ul-maakireen

They are scheming, Allah is also scheming. 
Indeed Allah's schemes are better!

Finally Allah's word has got the better of the schemings of
the UN and what it stands for. Kabul has fallen to
Mujahideens.

This reminds me of a poem of Iqbal. There he predicts, 70
years ago, how destiny of the world will change once
Afghan Mujahid wakes up ("jaag Giya Afghan"). 

All praise to Allah, the most beneficient the most merciful.
May Allah guide us on the path of those who were rewarded
by HIM and not on the path of those who were punished by HIM.
From: aaj5096@hertz.njit.edu (Ali A. Jafry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: PINKY FLOYD - Once again! Your serve!
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:50:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Apr13.225002.24675
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr12.185000.5298@cco.caltech.edu> faryal@torment.ugcs.caltech.edu (Faryal [Pink Floyd] Ghalib) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.072229.9260@wuecl.wustl.edu> mss1@cec1.wustl.edu (Muhammad Sajid Saeed) writes:
>>
>>
>>>	Well look who is talkin? You are the one that had a problem
>>>	with the original posting.
>>
>> I still do! 
>
>	Well tough luck, suck **** thru a starw
>>                            ^^^^

Do you have any idea how many combinations are possible here ??

********************** STUFF DELETED *********************

>>What would it take to get this silly .sig off here? A California quake,perhaps!
>>
>	I dont know make me an offer.
>

I don't know...  this is really getting hot.

>>You have finally convinced me to go dig my Floyd discs outta my attic and
>>set 'em ablaze! Thank you!

I can't imagine why you waited this long.

>>
>	You are very welcome.
>
>>	Sajid [the last thing I'll have is Floyd as my middle name] Saeed
>>
>>
>	You dont deserve one.
>
>
>Faryal
>--
>God is real, unless declared integer

Why dont you just make Him a dangling reference and lets forget about it all.

:-)

Ali


-- 
I must go down to the seas again, 
to the lonely sea and the sky, 
And all I ask is a tall ship and a,
Star to steer her by.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ts2@cec2.wustl.edu (Talha Siddiqui)
Subject: Re: Have you driven a Floyd,lately?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:48:45 GMT

In article <mirza.703114458@pegasus.sce.carleton.ca> mirza@sce.carleton.ca (Murad A. Mirza) writes:
>msaeed@isis.cs.du.edu (Sajid Saeed (Floyd? Nah!!!)) writes:
>
>>Interesting discussion we havin' at Pink Floyd's expense! Anyone else care to
>>join, or is it just me and...
>
>>				sajid [Sniper at the gates of Pasadena!] Saeed
>
>
>assalam alikum
>
>No i haven`t since i know that it actually means F(l)ix Ol(y) Repail Daily/
>Monthly/Yearly.
>
>I can't understand why Pink Floyd, why not Aziz Mian???
		    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 To keep buffoons like you off the Net! Or did Aziz mian also do ACID???

>khuda hafiz.
>
>all standard disclaimers apply.
>
>Murad[Ghalib'e'Waqt]Mirza. 
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

But what about Pinky...Ghalib...alive...kicking ???

Talha Siddiqui.
From: oberoig@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: looking for Tamim sheikh..
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:33:59 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


  
  Brothers 
   assalaam aliakum ..

     I am looking for a friend from Bombay, 
   
             Tamim sheikh .
 Doing his Phd in life sceince any where about please Email me.
thanks  .
-------

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahmad@seas.gwu.edu (Aftab Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Constitutional Amendment
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:07:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.141359.15556@prism.poly.edu> ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>>From: mughal@hamlet.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
>>Subject: Re: Constitution
>
>
>>The option to move somewhere else is always there, if one 
>>fiercely disagrees with everyone else around them.
>> 
>Its SHAMEFUL to suggest that minority should MIGRATE because we the Majority 
> do not like their faith, ethnicity or beliefs.
>Its ignorance of history and negation of human values.


An amendment renders a group as not-Muslims. Another makes the minorities
ineligible for electing parliament at large, leaving them on a visa status.
Still another one says that Gen. Zia ul Haq will be Presidant for so long.

Public usually is unaware of what happens to the constitution as long as no
sudden effect is seen. But it is amazing to see people on the net suggesting
minorities to leave the country. Those who did not spend their time in
getting education would have a strong point here.



Aftab					
			IT TAKES A NEWBORN TO FACE NEW REALITIES
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 04:06:36 EDT
From: Mahfooz Ahmed Jafry <32JMVQG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: CONTROVERSY KHATAM
 <1992Apr13.034629.4630@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>

Salam Alaikum :

        Those who says 'Lanatullahe allal kazbeen' to muslimeen in fact 'Lantua
llahe allal Qadianeeen' and say 'sallo alaih wasallam to khatum mursaleen'.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: salman@spike.psc.scarolina.edu
Subject: **ADVICE**
Reply-To: salman@spike.psc.scarolina.edu
Organization: Univ of S Carolina College of Sci and Math
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 06:23:13 GMT

I have a friend who is returning to Karachi after a good six or seven years
and he recently asked me about the state of affairs in the MotherLand. As
I was there in May '91, I "filled him in" as best I could. For fear that I 
left anything out, I would appreciate any and all advice that fellow SCP's
could offer.

Please address returns to:
				Fu'ad M. Butt C/O the above EMail address
Thank you,
	     Khudda Hafiz


-GO GAMECOCKS!!!!
From: ssh@andante.att.com (syed s haider)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: .....Jugni.....Jamalo......Music.....
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:56:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: andante.1992Apr9.155630.29819
Organization: AT&t bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ

In article <1992Apr8.173332.17546@athena.mit.edu> anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes:
>Whiel we managed to uncover the "Jamalo" mystery, does anyone on the
>net know the "Jugni" story.....I do remember a rough variant but am 
>not sure if it is the right one........
>
>By the way, Jugni is what made Alam Lohar and his great showmanship
>famous, recently Alamgir also sang the Jugni.......needless to say
>his renderation was no where near as entralling as what Alam Lohar's 
>used to be...............
>
>ADIL [.....mairayaa Jugni kaindee aye
>           tou naam Ali da laindi aye....	
>	   Ooo, mairayaa Jugni..............] NAJAM


Now you've got me wondering.  I have a cassette of Alamgir's Jugni
and I thought it was pretty good.  But I haven't had the pleasure
of listening to Alam Lohar.  So is the original version also
available on tape?
From: umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: reply #4 to Mr. Mubarak: REFERENCES ON KHATAM!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:12:58 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <nabeel.702778903@bellatrix.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:

>might have misinterpreted it. Third, Mirza Sahib did modify/corrupt Islam,
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>so how can you call him non-law-bearing prophet? (He need not modify that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>God is one!)

Could you be more specific in your allegation here?

Nasir Ahmed Noor
umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca

p.s here is the arabic text you asked for from HAZRAT MOHYIUD DIN IBNI ARABI.
    " Qat'ana an fi haza-al ummat man lah qat dar-ja-te al-anbiyya fi
      an-nabuuat andi-Allah la fi-al tash-rish"
From: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: 'burqa and muslim women'
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:46:59 GMT
Reply-To: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

Some unknown  G   writes....

>I commend you!    The idea of women covering everything but the hands and 
>face comes from a Sahih hadith (Muslim)  wher a _man_ asks the prophet 
>(PBUH)  how a woman should dress (i.e. what a woman can show).  Rasulallah 
>did not _say_ anything but rather pointed to the head and arms.  I believe 
>this is now understood as face and hands.  The concern here then is: 
>Rasulallah has said not to ask too many questions of him in their zeal to 
>be the best Muslim, otherwise their would be too many restrictions on the 
>people; and he did not want the peoples life to be too difficult.  
>Secondly according to this Hadith, women may _not_ show their feet, since >
>Rasulallah did not point to the feet.  So if we follow this hadith exactly 
>all women should wear socks all the time!!!


 Everything is O.K  but please give some respect to holy prophet Muhammad
(MPBUH) when you are writing something related to him.  The word
Rasoolallah alone doesn't seem respectful.  Please don't mind its a request
only.

----------------------------------------------------
SOHBAN SHAHID              e-mail ss511583@longs.lance.ColoState.Edu
Civil Engg. Dept.                    (303) 491 5844/8204 (work)
Colorado State University (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523
From: anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The one million & sawa lakh question....
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:19:53 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


Kamran Aftab wrote:
|> :<|:<  As we say in urdu "suwaal suwa lakh ka" (in english - million
|>          dollar question!) 


I had written;
|> :<	Now I realize why the Americans have developed so fast and why
|> :<	we have not...........they set their hopes on "million" and
|> :<	we only on "sawa lakh"...........By the way, why not a 
|> :<	"poora lakh"?			;--{)}
|> :<

Syed Irfan Hyder writes:
|> May be because of:
|> 
|>    "zinda tu zinda, mera hua haathi bhi 'sawa laakh' ka hotaa hey"
|> 
|>     "Even a dead elephant is worth one and quarter lakh."



		How right you are, Irfan, humm "third world" wallouN
		ki qismaat meiN haathi bhi hoota hai tou marra hou	;-)

		daktar sahib nay sahee kaha tha:

			rehmataiN haiN tairee aghair kay kaashanouN par
			barq girtee hai tou be-chaaray musalmaanouN par


	--------------------------------------------------------------
	ADIL [giraiN bhi nirkh tou gohar ki phir bhi qeemat hai
	          magar abhi meiN kissi sakhss ka iijaraa nahiN] NAJAM
	--------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tariq@sw.stratus.com (Tariq Afzal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: 2 + 2 = 5
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:57:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Asad Iqbal replies to an article from Mr. Khan

[stuff deleted]
Allah with us, so we are the supreme nation" Well Sir, that's not the
case. Being Muslim is no big deal, being a true muslim is. Moderation is
the key to a better life. God doesn't need our trust. He is up there
commanding the world all he wants us to do is pray and be nice to all
his creation. He wants us not to follow islam blindly, but to undersatnd
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hay, where did you develop this notion. I guess after skipping 4th aya of Baqra.
If so then it goes like "Al lazeena u-minoona bilgaeeb .....", sure I don't need
to translate that.

Tariq [beleives blindly in Allah] Afzal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan