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From: steve@dcdwest.uucp (Steve Meloche)
Subject: Re: AGA artifacts, shimmer
Organization: ITT Aerospace/Communications Division - West
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:47:44 GMT

In article <dej.026x@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca> dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>I just got back from the World of Commodore in Toronto, and I was
>disappointed at the AGA machines (A4000, A1200).  Although the capabilities
>of AGA sound good, the actual video quality was somewhat lacking.
>
>On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
>be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,
>the whole screen shimmered - it was like someone was continuously
>tweaking the vertical size control!
>
>I asked a Commodore representative about these problems and he said
>it was due to the interaction between the computer and monitor and that
>the monitor was to blame.

That sounds like a pretty bogus explanation.  I have seen a very similar thing
on certain screens on my ECS equipped A1000 using my original 1080 monitor.
(Even on a regular workbench screen!) The fact that it happens every eight
pixels points to some sort of problem in the digital realm.  Since I am not
getting memory corruption I am guessing that it has something to do with some
timing problem in the display chips themselves, but I don't know enough about
the data path to guess where the error is.

When I first got my Rejuvinator it died quickly due to a sick Agnus.  Moving
graphics would leave pixels all over the screen.  Since I got a new Agnus
things have been great except for the above problem, which does not show up
very often.  If I go to Superhires mode, however, the leftmost column of pixels
always shows this shimmering behavior.

If the AGA machines you saw showed this behavior consistently it is probably
due to early versions of the chips in the demo machines.  I did not see similar
behavior on the A4000's I saw at WOC in Pasadena.

> David Jones, 6730 Tooney Drive, Orleans, Ontario K1C 6R4 CANADA
>       email: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca    Fido: 1:163/109.8
> AMIGA: Advanced Multimedia with Interactive Graphics and Audio

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From: sidor+@pitt.edu (George Sidor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Derringer SIMM Memory Question
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:02:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: sidor@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu

I recently got a CSA Derringer.  I also got a 4 Meg, 80 ns SIMM for it.
It works fine, but I don't see any speed up when I enable the burst
mode for both the data and instruction caches.  I ran AIBB_5.0 and the
results for burst and non-burst are the same.  I heard somewhere
that you need at least 60 ns memory.  Is this true?  I would appreciate
any answers to this question.  Please E-mail me.  Thanks in advance.

sidor@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu			George Sidor
sidor+@pitt.edu
From: jjf@byron.u.washington.edu (Matthew Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 - 68020EC ??
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Even a full-fledged 68020 does not have an MMU in it, that's what the 68551 is for, it is a memory management unit.. the 68030 not poonly has a lot more transistors than the 020 it also has an MMU built in, with external FPU and caches.. and the 68040 has all that jazz built in...
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.hardware:21319 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:7993
From: ccocstt@prism.gatech.EDU (Dr.Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Suggestion Wanted on Drawing Pads
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:32:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Can anyone give me comments/info on the following "drawing tablets"??
Like, DPI, how it handles input (optical or sensitive face), quality,
ease of use, etc....

Wiz Drawing Tablet
Genius  Genitizer
Sketch Master


Thanks.

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From: h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 3-Button Mouse Questions
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:11:30 GMT
Organization: Comp. Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia

In <FAp7s*Xv2@spirits.ka.sub.org> rob@spirits.ka.sub.org (Roland Bless) writes:

> [...]
>I know of two 3-button mice:
>1) the BOING!-mouse from GfxBase (408-262-1469), 1881 Ellwell Dr., Milpitas, Ca.95035
>   It's an optical mouse originally from Mouse Systems -> same thing as the SUN-mouse.
>   It comes with an 7"x7.75" Alumunium 200CPI pad.
>   It feels good in your hand, but it's not cheap.

>2) GoldenImage mouse.
>   Optical mouse too, but doesn't feel so good like the BOING! mouse IMHO.
>   (and there is a DIP-switch ATARI<->AMIGA :-#).

I've owned both of these mice over the last two years. The Boing! (which was the
second and one that I currently use) is by far the better choice, albeit more
expensive.

The Golden Image optical was *very* jerky under acceleration. It could not keep
up with my movement of the mouse on productivity or super-hires screens. This
was the main thing that turned me off this mouse over time. Then there is
a quality issue. The Golden Image cord developed a fault causing vertical
movement problems within about 8 months of use, and the mouse certainly was not
pressed against anything that should cause this to occur..

To be fair though, the Boing! mouse I first received had to go straight
back with a similar fault (although it was the circuitry, not the cord), but
that can be (probably) attributed to poor treatment on its way from USA to
Australia. Other than that, the mouse has been operating for about 8-9
months without a hitch, works great under acceleration, feels really good
(responsiveness and handling). The 3 buttons are a bonus too, with my
middle one currently enchancing my window sizing/movement capabilities.
FInally, the Boing! had a much longer cord than the GI (important for a left
hander with a A500....).

>Disclaimer: No I don't work for GfxBase, I'm just a BOING!-mouse fan.

Nor do I, and so am I (respectively) :-)

regards,
Darren.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hellerS@moravian.edu (sjh)
Subject: Re: Derringer SIMM Memory Question
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:40:22 EST

In <564@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sidor+@pitt.edu (George Sidor) writes:

>I recently got a CSA Derringer.  I also got a 4 Meg, 80 ns SIMM for it.
>It works fine, but I don't see any speed up when I enable the burst
>mode for both the data and instruction caches.  I ran AIBB_5.0 and the
>results for burst and non-burst are the same.  I heard somewhere
>that you need at least 60 ns memory.  Is this true?  I would appreciate
>any answers to this question.  Please E-mail me.  Thanks in advance.

I asked Memory World about this and they said you don't need 60ns RAM for
burst mode, that it was all in how the board was set up. I don't know that
simply turning on burst mode is going to speed things up, though. Doesn't a
program have to specifically use this mode to take advantage of it?
Otherwise wouldn't it seem to make sense to keep it on all the time? I
don't know...

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: A1200 - 68020EC ??
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:38:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.171145.13055@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

>   In article <1992Dec11.093004.10703@walter.cray.com> walterb@sequoia.cray.com
>   (Walter Boese Jr.) writes:
>
>   >What does the 'EC' in 68020 mean for the Amiga A1200.
>
>   No MMU.

The 68020 never had an MMU.  I think you're confusing with the
68EC030, which is a 68030 without an MMU.

The only difference that's been explained is that it's limited to
addressing 16M of physical memory, just like the 68000 is.  I also
know it's in a plastic surface-mount package, which is much cheaper to
manufacture, and easier to assemble than the 68020 in it's ceramic
PGA.  Besides the reduction in address space, it may have a simplified
bus interface as well, but now I'm just speculating.
-- 
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OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
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From: traynor@fnalf.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.tech,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: What about Amiga sound chip improvements?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:35:50 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

Hi--

I've heard all sorts of facts and figures about the new AGA chipset and the
4000/1200.  I know there are new graphics chips, but I've heard nothing 
about improvements in the sound.  Furher, I've heard about Commodore's
plans for new chips in the future--but I don't know if they include 
sound imporvements.  Does anyone know what Commodore is doing to 
improve sound?  If they are doing something, should I just wait until 
94 or so when the new computers with new chips are released?

Thanks much.

					-Mike Traynor

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: A1200/4000 ramblings...
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:26:30 GMT

pcrayne@halcyon.com (Peter C. Crayne) writes:

> In article <3HFLVB1w165w@coyote.datalog.com> cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Th
> > 
> >Okay, for those of us who are *still* groveling in 1.x land (I'm using 
> >1.3 on a 500), what *is* the current "on-the-street' price for 2.1??
> 
> About $95.00 from creative computers (mail order). I just went right
> from 1.3 to 2.1 as well. Already, I can't stand to switch back and use
> 1.3, if even for a few minutes.
> 

Thanks; if Creative is selling 2.1 directly (and right now), then I hope 
to have that under the tree on 25 Dec; I left a *large* hint to my wife 
on that one...  :)
 
Thanks fer the info!


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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:08:13 EST
From: <FAA102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: AGA artifacts, shimmer
Distribution: world

In article <dej.026x@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca>, dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones)
says:
>
>I just got back from the World of Commodore in Toronto, and I was
>disappointed at the AGA machines (A4000, A1200).  Although the capabilities
>of AGA sound good, the actual video quality was somewhat lacking.
>
>On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
>be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,
>the whole screen shimmered - it was like someone was continuously
>tweaking the vertical size control!
>
>I asked a Commodore representative about these problems and he said
>it was due to the interaction between the computer and monitor and that
>the monitor was to blame.  I have seen this effect on three different
>brands of monitors (including the 1960) and the monitors in question
>work fine with ECS machines, so this explanation doesn't hold water.
>
>Have any AGA users out there noticed the same thing?  Commodore, what
>will you do about it?
>
>--
> David Jones, 6730 Tooney Drive, Orleans, Ontario K1C 6R4 CANADA
>       email: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca    Fido: 1:163/109.8
> AMIGA: Advanced Multimedia with Interactive Graphics and Audio
>

I think you're seeing things. I saw a demo on a 1960 monitor and the 4000 perfo
rmed flawlessly.  The pictures were incredibly good.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Length of SCSI-connection
From: pete@bignode.equinox.gen.nz (Pete Moore)
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:58:43 +1200
Reply-To: pete@bignode.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks
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Thomas Kroener (kroener@cs.uni-sb.de) wrote:

>Does the length of the cable from a scsi host to a harddisk has any
>influence on the performance of the disk ?

It shouldn't, unless you have a _really_ long cable. I have had no problems
with the one attached to my A500, and it is over 2 metres long. I'm told
that up to 6 metres is OK.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: klump@vati.fmi.uni-passau.de (Karsten Klump)
Subject: Re: Quantum LP120S
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:57:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.021320.21415@samba.oit.unc.edu> mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara) writes:
>
>Ok, simple question number 1.  How many megabytes will fit on  a 
>Quantum LP120S?  120 or close enough to round up?  So... like 
>115 or 119?  I just purchased a new one from Computer Shopping
>Network and can only get 114 mgeabytes using FFS.  The drive did not
>come with a sector error chart, so I am assuming no errors.  Safe
>assumption?  I don't know, can someone help?
>
>Philip McNamara 
>McPhil@med.unc.edu 
>

You won't get any more than these 114 meg, because manufacturers of harddrives
discribe their Megabyte as 1000 * 1000 Bytes (not 1024*1024 as it should be).
I've got an LPS105 and I con get exactly 100 megs on it.
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From: dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A simple query: Imagewriter II -> Amiga Cable?
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:44:37 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I found that that my Imagewriter (1985 US model) works fine with the amy with the
following 3 wire connection:

          Amy            Immy

          7 SGnd ------- 7 SGnd
   (2 or 3) Xmit ------- (2 or 3) Rcv (can't remember which way round)
   (5 or 6) RTS? ------- 20 DTR <----- ******** NB

As I say, I can never remember the polarity of RTS/CTS and whether 2 or 3 is Xmit.
The obvious correct connection from this lot should work though. I also remember that
I used a different DIP setting from the one used with the Apple II - I think this was
to do with CR-LF vs. CR, DIP 2-4 or close to it.

Hope this helps,
Dave
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From: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de (Stefan Eggers)
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:20:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Mono monitor with a 500?
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Dr Peter Kittel Germany (peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com) wrote:

> But perhaps look around a little more. Search for a monochrome "Composite"
> monitor. This would connect to the RCA jack in the back of the A500 and

I have used a Philips BM7522 (yellow phosphor) since December '85 with
a C-64.  Since June '87 it works with an Amiga without difficulties.

These  monitors  were/are  also  available  with green and paper white
phosphor.  I have not tried them, but I think 2.04 (with `Pharaoh' se-
lected in Palette) looks great with yellow phosphor.

> software. Such monitors are rather hard to find, but if you find one,
> it's typically also very cheap.

The second BM7522 that I bought (in 1990) were available for DM 230,-.

Stefan.
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: DKB with AGA card.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:22:54 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>> Rumour is EXACTLY what this is!!
>
>Ehem, but this info was taken from a fax from DKB to a distibutor.. ;-)
>
>Are you SURE you're not working on something (impossible?) ? ;-D

Wouldn't this be completely at the whim of CBM? Unless someone has
already managed to clone the AGA chipset.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: AGA artifacts, shimmer
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:59:29 GMT

In article <71681@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>On all of the AGA machines, a fine pattern of vertical lines could
>>be seen on the screen.  The lines were 8 pixels apart.  On one machine,
>
>>Have any AGA users out there noticed the same thing?  Commodore, what
>>will you do about it?
>
>My 4000 with Princeton 1400 monitor exhibits no such effects.

My A4000 with Samsung SyncMaster 3 has a perfect picture also.  I have
Sony CD-Player speakers on either side and Ethernet wires running all
over the place, so it is a relatively noisy environment.  And there 
is no interference when the cover of the A4000 is off either...

My A4000's display is much nicer than my A3000's is under the exactl
same conditions...

>TomK@cup.portal.com
>Tom Krotchko

Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: d505i@wartburg.auc.dk (Christian Hoj)
Subject: Re: A1200 - 68020EC ??
Reply-To: d505i@wartburg.auc.dk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:13:33 GMT

In article 13055@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA, tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.093004.10703@walter.cray.com> walterb@sequoia.cray.com
> (Walter Boese Jr.) writes:
> 
> >What does the 'EC' in 68020 mean for the Amiga A1200.
> 
> No MMU.
> 
> >How can you economize (sp) a chip that is pretty basic to begin with?
> 
> Take out the MMU.
> 
> >What great features can you remove?
> 
> The MMU?
> 
> >And if they did remove something, WHY?  The 68020 is getting outdated
> >already, why degrade more than its age already has?
> 
> Expense. The EC020 is quite suitable for an entry-level machine and
> most people will not be inclined to run Unix or virtual memory on
> such a machine. The alternative is another 68000. Don't give them any
> ideas :).


You keep on mentioning the MMU, but THERE IS NO MMU IN A 020!!!!
The MMU was first in the 030.

Christian Hoj
From: dwdyer@eskimo.com (Wayne Dyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A4000 and Zorro II SCSI
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:55:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-

From what I've read, the A4000's bus is supposed to be somewhat backwards
compatible?  Or did I dream this?

Anyway, it occurred to me that if Commodore offers in a trade-in program,
I'd have to consider my current boards (one I'd be willing to lose) and
if they'd work in an A4000.  The only one I'm really concerned about is
a GVP Hardcard (Series II).  It has the ram expansion, and I understand that
16-bit wide RAM would be near worthless, but could I still use the drive?

Just pondering here in the dark...


-- 
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From: Lars_Erup_Larsen@p5.pitstop.bbs.bad.se (Lars Erup Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: re: Help needed with SyQuest SQ555 removable media HD
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:53:03 GMT
Reply-To: Lars_Erup_Larsen@p5.pitstop.bbs.bad.se (Lars Erup Larsen)
Organization: Pitstop Amiga BBS, Copenhagen, Denmark
OD-Comment-To: Jeffrey_Wille


Hi Jeffrey Wille, in a letter of December 14th '92, you wrote about
[Help needed with SyQuest SQ555 removablemedia HD]:


 JW> I plugged it into the external SCSI port and powered it up with a
 JW> cartridge inside, booted the 3000 and ran HDtoolbox.  With HD
 JW> toolbox I changed the drivetype to the values that it read from
 JW> the drive (it reported that it was a SyQuest 42 MB drive, which
 JW> is what I expected).  Then I did a low-level format, and partitioned
 JW> it as single partition.
 JW> 
 JW> Upon leaving HDtoolbox, the icon for the drive appeared as SHD0:RRRR,
 JW> and it refused to open.  So, I got SCSI mounter from FF537 (or somewhere
 JW> near there) and mounted it, at which point the icon became SHD0:BUSY.

After  you  have  low-level formatted the drive with HDToolbox, you have to
format  it  in  WB  or in the CLI.  Low-level-formatting is not the same as
formatting.

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--- April V0.992PBeta+
From: holler@holli.UUCP (Jan Holler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel vs Motorola
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:41:07 GMT
Organization: private
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <andy.00a7@onkyo.incubus.sub.org> andy@onkyo.incubus.sub.org (Andreas Goehler) writes:
> As it seems that no one replied to my question, here it is again.
> 
> Who knows ANYTHING about Intel's new 586 alias P5 alias Pentium ???
> Will it be 64-bit Data and Address Bus. Will it be 8-bit internal as all

Boots in realmode (?!!), has a 64bit Databus, a 64bit Adressbus does not
make any sence for this kind of uP.  (Could be, I have now information
about that.) 8 bit internal would be a bit ridicolous.

> other x86 ??? Does it include a 386 unit as planed earlier ??? Is it any

No information about that, but I guess no (they say it should be compatible
to earlier versions in spite of 64bit databus.)

> competition to the new MC68060 as soon as both of these processors are out.

As one once said:  "How can one possibly understand and appreciate intel-
processors?" ;-)

> Another thing, what power usage will the 586 have ???

Probably a very lot! ;-)

Since you live in Germany, i suggest you buying the December issue of c't.
Read the article starting on page 40. (on page 20 you will find something
about the 68060).

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