From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Ye Rules
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 08 Nov 92  10:16:14

(last updated October 21, 1992)

FILK is a FIDOnet echo, gated into usenet as alt.music.filk _and_ as the
filk mailing list.  Since it is a FIDOnet echo, I am required to make the
following rules post from time to time, as "moderator".  Usenet readers,
do not let the term "moderator" throw you - in FIDOnet it refers to a
Designated Topic Cop, not some poor soul who has to READ everything before
it can be seen.  I not only do not censor messages, I CANNOT intercept 
messages once entered...

                               --Ye Designated Topic Cop

Rules for this echo, such as they are:

1) This echo is for discussion of filk and items related to filk, and 
     of course, posting filksongs and poetry.    Which covers just 
     about everything, though it must be in relation to filk.  In 
     other words, let's not discuss if Batman can beat Superman UNLESS 
     you're writing a song about it.... 

PLEASE NOTE - All material posted should have either been written by 
     the poster, or be things the poster has the right to publish 
     (thanks to express permission of the copyright holder, public 
     domain status, "anonymous" authorship [do check first] or the 
     like.)  When in doubt, don't post it.  Julia Ecklar has requested
     that NONE of her songs be posted.

The following folks have given blanket permission to post, so long as
     proper credit and copyright information are kept with the song, and
     it is not published or recorded for sale without specific permission
     from the writer:      

     Name                Net address if any

     Dave Aronson        1:109/120 Dave.Aronson@blkcat.fidonet.org     
     Joe Bethancourt     1:114/166  (rarely 1:102/524)
     Kihe Blackeagle     1:124/6224.4003
     Steve Brinich       steve-b@access.digex.com
     Jeremy Buhler       1:106/7674
     Sherman Dorn        1:273/10.3
     Harold Feld         hjfeld@acs.bu.edu 
     Leslie Fish         c/o Mary Creasey  1:102/524
                             Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
     Scott Fridenberg    1:170/901
     Lynn Gold           lgold@Cadence.COM
     Kathy Mar           kathy@xocolatl.com 
     Scott Malcomson     1:114/110
     Mitch Marmel        1:273/715.11 marmelmm@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
         (aka Major Matt Mason)
     Joel Polowin        1:249/107.4
     Kay Shapero         1:102/524  Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org   
      Robert Stockton     rgs@cs.cmu.edu


     Note: The standard form for writing FIDOnet numbers from Usenet given
     a FIDO nodenumber of the form 1:xxx/yyy, is  
     User.name@fyyy.nxxx.z1.fidonet.org.  This doesn't always work for some 
      reason, but is probably your best chance. To reach usenet from FIDO
     net ask your sysop (and if all else fails send it to ME via e-mail
     and I'll forward it.  Be SURE to include the usenet address you want
     it forwarded TO.)

2) I collect the songs from this echo into downloadable files, issued 
     at irregular intervals when there's enough material.  If you do 
     NOT want this done with a filksong, please say so when you post 
     it!  Also please give copyright data, if it is not by the poster 
     so I can note this in the file.  Absent other information, I will 
     assume the poster wrote the song and label it accordingly.

NOTE: These files are entitled FFILE1.ZIP through FFILE18.ZIP and can 
     be downloaded or file requested from StormGate Aerie (1:102/524) 
     if your local system hasn't already done this for you (check 
     first).  From Usenet, try the FTP site at rainbow.cse.nau.edu, 
     /public/sca area which should have at least some of them.  If that
     won't work you can always just mail me some floppies - contact
     me via e-mail for details (see rule 7 below for netaddresses).

3) Please, no flame wars.  Though I may make an exception for any 
     conducted _solely_ in filksongs if they're witty enough...  

4) Threads which go off topic sufficiently will be KABONGED!  No 
     further discussion of the off topic topic (:->) will be allowed.  
     Threads which show signs of degenerating into yelling matches 
     will also be KABONGED!  These discussions may be resumed in a 
     month or so after all involved parties have had time to calm 
     down.

5) The following is the procedure used in dealing with someone who 
     becomes excessively annoying on the FIDOnet side of the gate.  If 
     someone in USENET decides to be excessively annoying, I'll proba-
     bly complain to his sysadmin, but what, if anything happens after 
     that is up to HIM...  

If someone is behaving inappropriately as defined by the above rules 
     (and continues to do so after being notified via netmail), I will 
     send them a warning via this echo, labeled "First Warning".  If 
     this does not work, I will send them a stronger warning via 
     netmail labeled "Second Warning".  If that doesn't work, the 
     party in question will be informed that one more infraction will 
     cause them to be banned from the echo either temporarily or 
     permanently. And if that doesn't work, I'll do it.  (I haven't 
     had to do this _yet_.  Please don't pick this route to undying 
     fame...)

6) If it should become necessary for me to stop moderating this echo I 
     will designate a new moderator/Designated Topic Cop.  If I cannot 
     do so, Nicolai Shapero is authorized to either take over as 
     moderator/Designated Topic Cop himself, or select a new one.  

7) Any technical problems involving the usenet mailing list or alt. 
     group extension of this echo should be referred to the gateway 
     operator, Rick Ellis at rick@ofa123.fidonet.org; other problems 
     can be referred to me either via FIDOnet (Kay Shapero, 1:102/524) 
     or from usenet at Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org

8) That's it for the moment.  If someone comes up with a new and im-
     proved way to aggravate all and sundry I reserve the right to 
     make a rule to fit the occasion. 

                Kay Shapero, Moderator/Designated Topic Cop, Filk echo



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