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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Q and Guinan(sp?)
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:40:32 GMT
Organization: Yale University

In article <1992Sep10.132032.1362@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
 
>You've edited the text that precedes the section that you excerpted.  It
>says something to the effect of "what is Q's connection to Guinan?", to
>which I sarcastically replied with the above.
>
>
>
>In other words, it was a joke.  Nothing against you, Rebecca, but I
>should have learned by now that when ever you make a joke like this,
>even if it's something to the effect of "episode #76 gives clear
>evidence of Kirk's hidden epilepsy problem," someone will say "hey!
>when did that happen?  Is that one of the lost episodes?"
>
Hey, why not?  Stranger things have happened!   :-)
 
 
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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STNG sucks!!!
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:25:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <BuBM6z.LxJ@cs.dal.ca> ian@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ian Littlewood) writes:
}Both Q and the Borg are child's play compared to the Organians, Trelane
}or V'ger.

Q's more powerful than the Organians.  Q even said he was omnipotent.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:8981 rec.arts.sf.marketplace:456 misc.forsale:25559
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.sf.marketplace,misc.forsale
Subject: Star Trek (TOS) on Beta, uncut (trade/sell -- updated 92/9/7)
Summary: trade 4 other Beta, CD, NES games, IWII sheet feeder, Sony V6/V7
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:11:17 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na,jp
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)

Just got through taking inventory, and I've got a total of 7 episodes
available on *Beta* for Sale at $10 each (take 'em all for only $60!)
or Trade (1-for-1 swap for movie on Beta or used CD; or, a package
deal for used Nintendo NES games; or, all for a set of good stereo
headphones (e.g. Sony V6 or V7) or an Apple IWII sheet feeder) as
follows:

	 8 - Charlie X
	11 - Dagger of the Mind
	12 - Miri
	17 - Shore Leave
	20 - The Alternative Factor
	29 - Operation-Annihilate!
	33 - Who Mourns for Adonais?

Numbers indicate episode numbering on the tape boxes, for those who
are keeping track of what episodes they're missing in that manner.

RSVP for summaries, if necessary.

The tapes are all in excellent condition in the original packaging.
All have been played at least once, but most have been played ONLY
once, and NONE have been played more than twice. Running time: ~50
min. ea.  (Unedited, uncut store-bought originals unlike those in
syndication; all have *incredible* Beta HiFi sound!)

gld

PS: For those of you who may wonder, Beta is alive as a pro/hobbyist
format ... there's life beyond the corner video store! (-;
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine filming on location south of JPL (SPOILERS)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.185246.4040@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> phk@aristotle.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Pieter Kallemeyn) writes:


[...spoilers for what some folks saw during a DS9 film shoot...]

>For those interested, what follows are spoilers of what we saw:  
>


>
>Paramount had decked out the park's baseball diamond to look like the
>training camp for the 1923 Chicago Cubs.  In the background were extras
>dressed in the old style baseball uniforms, plus a few guys dressed 
>as reporters.  On the pitchers mound was Cmdr Sisko in his red uniform
>with a baseball glove and a Cubs hat.  The scene had him describing 
>the finer points of the game to someone at home, who was dressed in 
>a baseball uniform.  The catcher was a boy, most likely Sisko's son.
>We stood behind the camera stationed at third plate, but most of the
>action was filmed behind the catcher.


Can you say "just another holodeck sequence"?




I knew you could.

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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Just when you thought it was safe to read the group - O'BRIEN RANK 2!!
Date: 14 Sep 1992 17:15:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep13.205029.24477@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
}Yes, a sequel you never hoped you'd see....
}just what is Miles Edward O'Brien's rank anyway?
[...]
}Geordi answers him, "That's Chief O'Brien."
}"How long have you known him, " asks the Romulan.
}"Almost four years," responds Geordi

}At this time in the series, the Enterprise has also been in operation for
}almost four years, so this means both Geordi and O'Brien have been on
}board the Enterprise since the very beginning or at least very close to
}the very beginning.

Almost four TV series episode seasons cannot at all be correlated with
the passage of time *within* the series.  Years measured by TV seasons is
kind of a metatime for Star Trek.  After all, Star Trek calandars are based
on that stardate nonsense.

Geordi and O'Brien could have known each other before either served on
the Enterprise.
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From: techy@iastate.edu (Technobabblonian)
Subject: Correct me if im wrong...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:26:09 GMT


I just received some Email telling me to, "Check your facts, man".  The
article in question was my alt.startrek.creative story i recently posted.
This person (who shall remain address-less)told me I was incorrect in calling
Romulan ships Bird of Prey's and Klingon ship's warbirds.

Now.  Romulan & Klingon ship designs were exchanged werent they?  I mean,
Romulans started using D7 ship designs as seen in The Enterprise Incident,
as well as Bird of Prey's in Balance of terror & Deadly years.  They
ALSO had warbirds as i TNG The Enemy and Future Imperfect.  

I chose to call the Klingon ships Warbirds because I  used "Bird of Prey's"
from TOS.  Why did i use TOS terminology when it had Tasha in it?  Because
when the E-C goes back in time, that is more closely associated with
TOS than TNG.

-- 
-Troy Rutter        |  Another Budding Programmer of the rare
Iowa State Univ.    |      species of technobabblonians.
Project Vincent     |
    "Beware Romulans bearing GIFs."  -me with apologies to De.
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Looking for Lyrics
Date: 5 Sep 92 04:27:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep4.212715.1262
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hello. I am looking for the lyrics to the song that the imposter Jean-Luc
Picard sung in 10-forward in "Alliegance" (sp?). The song goes something
like this:

"...so cheer up 'me lads, 'tis to glory we steer...."

If you have them, I would very much appreciate a copy. I realize that I
will probably get 450 responses, so I will thank you all in advance. And
becuase I invarably get someone telling me where I can FTP them from, I
will say now that I do *NOT* have ftp access....

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: t0e0078@tamsun.tamu.edu (Terje Eggestad)
Subject: Re: Jack Crusher
Keywords: monKEY, turKEY, donKEY, KEYboard
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:33:18 GMT

In article <562JqB4w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos) writes:
>
>> 		Is there a ST:TNG episode which explains how Jack Crusher
>>               died?
>
>No.

Jacks death is one of the sub topics of the book Reunion, read it for full
details, but the essential was that the Stargazer had a small accident which
left the ship a rather poor condition, they got a 'energy build up' in the 
port nacelle which they where unable to stop. They had only a short time 
(of course) before the nacelle would explode, and Jack was the one who figured
that the only solution was that some fool went out and cut of the nacelle
with a hand held heavy duty phaser. Of  course since it was his idea, he was 
the poor fool, and the nacelle pylon blew up in his face just as he was 
finnishing cutting it of, but the explosion savages the nacelle, the stargazer
and the day is saved, and Jack dies. Just another normal ST plot.

>
>-- 
>Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   | Dave Barry for President
>pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  "He Probably Won't Use
>**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        |     Nuclear Weapons"

Terje
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From: ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace)
Subject: Re: Inner Light waste of film? (no spoilers)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:45:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.040256.23749@ultb.isc.rit.edu> smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

[Much deleted...]

>Any ST story (or any SF story
>in general) that couldn't also be told from a Navy ship or submarine, and
>therefore lacks the human element, is not worthy of being told.
>

	Really?  And, how exactly would you convert this story to be
told "from a Navy ship or submarine"?  Or, for that matter, how would
you similarly convert ANY Trek episodes (TOS or TNG)?  I don't think it's
that easy...  I can't picture a Navy ship coming across an old buoy which
suddenly emits some sort of beam which immobilizes the captain, and
forces him to live some other life of someone from a dead society on some
unexplored continent...  Still sounds like sci-fi (though, rather bad
sci-fi).  I don't really think you can remove the Trek stories from their
sci-fi genre (at least, not most of them).  And, I don't think you SHOULD.
The human element can still be there, regardless of whether it can be
told "from a Navy ship or submarine" or not.  (And, BTW, am I the only
one who found this TNG episode boring as hell?  I mean even more so than
the average TNG episode...  It was a great concept, but it lacked something.)

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 of kippers?" "Yes." "I don't know. Just someone." "Ah." - THGTTG

Gene Roddenberry: 1921-1991.  You will be missed.
May your dream "Live long and prosper".

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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Creation convention on 9/5
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:10:48 GMT

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>In article <8267.29816@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> scherf@maple.swdc.stratus.com (Steve Scherf) writes:

>>According to this woman:

>My guess would be Jeri Taylor, who this year is to become one of the show's
>main producers (since the old producers have DS9 to get off the ground).
>Hardly "just another bureaucrat."

Probably a good guess.

>>3] They read the net.

>	Wicked!

>	don't suppose we could send them via email could we?

Steven, Steven, Steven.

I *imagine* that what is meant here is that a couple of people on staff read
*some* of the posts made here, probably the reviews when the season's in
force.  The one thing I have direct evidence for is that several of the 
most "prominent" reviews are sent (not in email...often by fax) to a member
of the writing staff, who then circulates them around the offices.  That
would obviously preclude email, and would also lessen the chance of random
articles being seen.

I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but I think the odds of any substan-
tial fraction of r.a.s.* being read by anyone on the TNG staff are extremely
small; and I don't think that's a problem, either.  If I find out otherwise,
I'll be very intrigued, but for now I'm sticking with the facts I know, and I'd
advise you to do the same.

Tim Lynch
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: TOS vs TNG (was Re: STNG sucks!!!)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 19:40:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <BuBM6z.LxJ@cs.dal.ca> ian@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ian Littlewood) writes:
>In <1992Sep9.083020.12747@unlv.edu> sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:

>>You must have never heard of Q...or of the Borg.
>
>Both Q and the Borg are child's play compared to the Organians,
>Trelane or V'ger. 

Anyone else ever think that Trelane might have been a baby Q?

And V'ger didn't wipe out half of StarFleet. Q isn't second to
anything, it seems (except Guinan's people, p'haps ;-), or at
least anything we've seen yet. I fail to see how the Organians
are any more or less powerful than Q.

Joshua (Who likes both, but prefers TNG just for effects. :)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dchatham@utkvx1.utk.edu (Chatham, Doug)
Subject: Re: A Silly Top 10 List
Summary: Attempted answers 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:14:00 GMT

In article <14SEP92.13062414@umbc2.umbc.edu>, noel@umbc2.umbc.edu writes...

>	So from the home office in Arbutus Maryland, we bring you
> 
>TOP 10 MYSTERIES OF STAR TREK

Below I shall attempt to give some answers:

> 
>10.  Why are Geordi's best freinds and android and a Borg?
> 
	As an engineer, Geordi has more experience being emotionally involved
with machines than with people.

>9.  How come after 73 episodes of TOS, 6 movies and 126 episodes of TNG--
>    we have yet to see a bathroom or somone using it?

	The need to use a bathroom was one of the casualties of the Eugenics
Wars, along with [politically incorrect statement deleted].
> 
>8.  Whatever happened to all those planets Kirk visited where he violated
>    the prime directive?
> 
	Violating the Prime Directive is a serious offense which is severely
punished.  If Kirk had ever violated the PD, he would have been convicted and
sent to prison.  Kirk is not in prison.  Therefore, Kirk has not violated the
Prime Directive.
	But seriously, the cultures of all those planets lived happily ever
after.

>7.  Why would any TOS character want to appear in a TNG episode with the 
>    title "Relics"?

	Actually, the characters were not (or is it "will not be") told the 
title of the episode.  Besides, the actor FORCED his TOS character to appear in 
that episode.

>6.  How come the cast of TNG sued to stop blooper reels but not "Cost of 
>    Living"?

	Uh---uh---I don't know.  Maybe the first suit exhausted them?
> 
>5.  Why does the Enterprise have a French Captian with an English accent?

	Theories:
	1. "Because I canna do French, and Scottish wou' be silly."
        2. An ENGLISH Captain with an English accent wouldn't be
	very original.
> 
>4.  Who was Leonard Nimoy buying the 5 Shuttlecraft ornaments for anyway?
> 
	No comment.

>3.  How come Starfleet can make something sophisticated as the Enterprise
>    yet still not get Picard's uniform to fit right?

	The uniform DOES fit right, though it doesn't say much for the
vaunted French taste in fashion.

> 
>2.  Why are the Romulains still putting up with Sela?
> 
	Well, we always see Sela at the wrong time of the month (? year?
decade?), so we don't know how good she is when she is her usual self.
The real question is why Sela puts up with those incompetent Romulans.

>and the number one Mystery of Star Trek
> 
>1.  If they really do read the newsgroups, what do they think of my lists?
> 
	First we must establish whether the people IN CHARGE really do read and
really do think.

	I hope this clears up most of the Top 10 Mysteries.

DISCLAIMER: I'm kidding.  I don't REALLY think the actors, directors, etc are
as bad as I've just said they are. [Insert other disclaimers here]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:32:09 GMT

In article <22272@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>Why is it that Star Trek is part of the navy?  Did the army disappear?
>Do battle ships carry Marine Corps soldiers?
>It makes sense that the federation should be a part of the navy since they
>call their vessels ships.  But is the navy really going to rule outer
>space?

In "Tomorrow is Yesterday" Kirk explains to the captured Air Force pilot
that they are a combined service.  


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: akostur@fraser.sfu.ca (Andre John Kostur)
Subject: Re: STTNG clip on Entertainment Tonight
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:17:07 GMT

In article <lag8tvINNsap@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui) writes:
>shown of the show.  To me they were clips I had never seen before.  They 
>included the Enterprise being enveloped by a green beam originating from the
>planet below.  However the most striking scene was Riker talking to Data's 
>HEAD.  That's right, seperated from the body and hooked up to the E's computer.
>The head was placed on the table, and yes the eyes were moving and so was the
>mouth.  Did anyone else see it, perhaps and most probably it is part two to the
>season ender.

Not too sure where the green beam came from, but Riker does talk to Data's head
in the episode "Disaster" (The one where the Enterprise runs into a strand,
Picard is stuck in a Turbolift with three children, and Troi ends up in
command of the ship, being the ranking officer on the bridge.


      ^ 
     ' ` 
  **'   `**         Andre Kostur
 ***  _  ***
  *''***``*         akostur@sfu.ca 
   `     '
From: valiviit@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Valiviita)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Old Episode Reviews (TNG)
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:31:57 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Are the old episode reviews by T.Lynch and A.Kanamori archived
somewhere? Where?

-- 
  Mika Valiviita  (valiviit@cc.helsinki.fi)  The University of Helsinki
         When you don't know where it is,it's right next to you.
From: rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: !! STATEMENT ofthe GRND FDRTN ALLNC !!
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:49:52 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

STATEMENT of the FEDERATION GRAND ALLIANCE:

        We, the assembled delegates of the United Federation of Planets and the
representatives of the Free Worlds of Klinzhai, in accordance with the
principles of Peace and the dictates of mutual respect for all sentient life
forms, do hereby pledge our desire to henceforth live in mutual harmony and
safety from this day on.
        We acknowledge the rights of our respective peoples to live, each in
accordance with their own social systems, to share in the wealth of scientific
and cultural exchange, to support each other in times of need, and never to
forget that we are each free beings, capable of the highest ideals and the
grandest vision. 
        We claim as our mutual heritage the rights of self-determination,
freedom from oppression or coercion, the right to pursue personal glory in
keeping with our own standards and expectations, the benefits of trust and
cooperation, and the end of suspicion and racial bigotry.
        Thus do we, the assembled representatives of our governments,
henceforth pledge, to ourselves and our posterity, to live in peace so long as
a single sun shall shine in our heavens, secure in the knowledge of our own
greatness and with the hope of a secure future tomorrow and for all tomorrows
to come.

Reprinted from the ST:TNG Officer's Manual, @1988.

rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu

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From: jclark@plains.NoDak.edu (The Master Coder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Actors' Other Roles [1/1]
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:51:27 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

These are my additions to the list that I havn't seen posted yet.
If any of these are posted by others by the time you read this, let me
apologize now and save anyone the bother of any flames.

Denise Crosby
-------------
Television:  Red Shoe Diaries: You Have the Right to Remain Silent

Patrick Stewart
---------------
Pictures: Dune

Will Wheaton
------------
Pictures: Toy Soldiers

William Shatner
---------------
Television: Twilight Zone

Brent Spiner
------------
Television: Night Court

Jonathan Frakes
---------------
Television: It's a Living

Justin J. Clark (jclark@plains.nodak.edu)
Traveller through time and space, stranded in a world gone mad!
From: 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:31:31 GMT

In article <22272@galaxy.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
> Why is it that Star Trek is part of the navy?  Did the army disappear?
> Do battle ships carry Marine Corps soldiers?
> It makes sense that the federation should be a part of the navy since they
> call their vessels ships.  But is the navy really going to rule outer
> space?

What you just said makes perfect sense...  Space isn't like the ocean
where land is "relatively" close...  There's a lot of empty space
out there...  So, you need ships to patrol that space... Hence the
Starfleet resembling the Navy...

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