From: lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: Re: BUSH IS A NEO_NAZI! AND A LIAR
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.211939.15103@b8.b8.ingr.com>, larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> In article <1992Sep9.212123.22530@infonode.ingr.com>, crossgl@infonode.ingr.com (Gordon Cross) writes:
> > In article <1992Sep8.165741.12000@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> I, therefore conclude that Street Stories is just another example of B/S on
> the TV and a telivised version of the National Enquirer or other Scandal RAG
> and should not be believed, regardless of what they say.  I tend to disbelieve
> the incedent ever occured that got the discussion started in the first place,
> but IF a law is on the books that says they can seize property (and I'm sure
> it is) THEN, your only recourse is to try and change the law, or challenge it
> in the supreme court.  Calling someone a NAZI because he inforces the laws
> on the books and uses maximum penalties available, is totally uncalled for!!!
> 
> Larry Billings

SO... using this reasoning, folks in the 50's that used Jim Crow (Crowe?) laws
that were "on the books" to discriminate against blacks, and even prosecute
them with the "maximum penalities available", were just doing their job, and
it would be unfair to call them racists? RIGHT? Actually the title "Nazi" is
not very far off the mark, as the kind of behavior under discussion is fairly
common among fascist governments, of which the Nazi party was a representative
member. And LEST WE FORGET, part of the full name of the Nazi party was (you
guessed it) Socialist. A Fascist is just a Socialist with more guns and power
(that has ALREADY managed to disarm the general populus....)

The point here is that the seizing of personal property (houses, yachts, large
sums of money) without cause, due process, and in clear violation of people's
constitionally guaranteed rights is WRONG, and just as wrong as the racist
behavior decribed above (actually much worse in my opinion, since it affects
ALL of us, and in very dangerous ways that lead directly to totalitarian
dictatorships and utter ruin as in the former USSR). And believe me, this
sort of stuff DOES go on, all over the country (although Florida lawfolk have
become almost legendary at their skill and imagination in such things). And
most of this is being allowed (and even perpetrated) by the Federal government
in the name of the holywar on drugs, or sometimes fighting "organized crime"
(Question: what do you call a bunch of armed thugs that extort large sums of
money from you at (clearly threatened) gunpoint? Do you call them the same
thing if they only do it once a year, say on April 15? Is there anyone in the
entire country that still thinks that our tax system is "voluntary"?)

Our constitution REQUIRES that government follow due process and assume that
the suspected party is "innocent until proven guilty", to prevent unchecked
abuses of the rights of the general populus (BY the government), NO MATTER
WHAT the accused person has done. There was no "well, except with drugs"
escape clause... anyone who has studied history, and especially world political
history, can easily see red warning flags ALL OVER this kind of action, but
some of these people choose to ignore them because they think that they will
come out on top in the "new world order" - most of these people will be wrong.

Larry "Tho. Jefferson was right - we're about 190 years overdue..." Hughes
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