From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:33:00 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov9.200117.27089@cs.olemiss.edu>, skip@cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.120235.6244@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>In article <1944@vall.dsv.su.se>, matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>>> David Stuart Griffiths (griffita@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
>>> 
>>> : I agree, in this SPECIFIC case, the Amiga WOULD be a mistake.
>>> 
>>> If you're not interested in computers buy a PC. Do I need to explain my
>>> point?
>>> 
>>
>>	That's crazy.  I am very interested in computers, I simply need
>>my computer to do more than the Amiga cn offer.  And believe it or not,
>>a PC can be equipped to do more for me than an Amiga could ever.
> 
> Sounds like you are one of those boring people who use computers for such
> mundane tasks as word processing, spreadsheets, and that sort of thing.
> Try to equip a PC for multimedia and you'll see one area in which the Amiga
> is much better suited.  The company I work for is putting together systems
> for salesmen to take on the road with them, consisting of the CPU, a genlock,
> a laserdisk, audio capability, and software.  The PC systems require an SVGA
> board with genlock capability ($500 for a decent one), a SoundBlaster Pro
> (which still does measure up to the native Amiga audio), 8M RAM if you are
> running Windows, and at least a 386-33 for minimal performance.  By contrast,
> an Amiga A1200 will do everything that the Clone will and do it better.
> 
> Clones are fine for boring everyday tasks, but they cannot hold a candle to
> an Amiga when it comes to cutting edge applications.
> 
> Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

	So your point is, Clones are good if you want to get work done
but to play with multimedia which very very few people use, the Amiga
is great?
	First of all, I am an EE major with a computer systems engineering
specialty (meaning in our EE program I took the CSE option).  I use this
machien (my clone) to do engineering projects and programming primarily.
However, I also like to listen to musion it for fun (rather listeten
to the radio still), play games, do a lot of telecommunications with it.
	I have not seen an Amiga (500,2000,3000) that can even come close
to what I can do on this in terms of animation, multitasking, and
raw computing power.  I give the Amigas the edge on sound as you said,
my sound blaster pro is a match (in my opinion) for the Amiga but
every multimedia program ever made for the Amiga supports its sound,
the same can not be said for the sound blaster.  Of course, I don't
use Windows for animation since it is obviously very poor at it.  
	By the way, what is "Cutting" edge to an Amiga user?  Multimedia?

	I think perhaps our difference in opinion is lack of experience.
It appears you haven't spent a lot of time with IBMs equipped to the max
and I will concede that I probably haven't seen Amigas equipped to the
max.  I will say this however, this machine here is certainly superior
to any amiga I have used in terms of speed, workablity, graphics,
and multitasking.  I am not familiar with that Amiga 1200 and I have
not used teh Amiga 4000 however.  Keep in mind though, you can buy
machines like mine now for under $2000.

	And before you go out and call IBM users "lame" or "boring"
or wahtever.  Think how you feel when IBm users come on and say "Go
play with your lamo toy."  I know most Amiga users get quite offended
when somene wrongly calls the Amiga a "toy".  To call IBMs "lame"
and basing it on the old IBM XT or something (which you didn't do but
you have seen it on this conference) is pretty offensive too.  Unless
someone here happens to have an IBM compatible with 16 megs of ram,
OS/2 2.01, Coprocessed 24bit video and also has an Amiga, I don't think
people should say that the Amiga "blows" away clones as a general
statement.  There are too many clones out there with too many options.
One could say "Amigas blow away the typical clone setup." and I wouldn't
argue with that.

							-Brad