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From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: A few pure Persian words from Shah-Nama
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:45:37 GMT

In article <lkqfq8INNg8g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana) writes:
>[No flames intended to behzad]

[lots of intentional flames included to neutralize assanas' flameless
article]

>Behzad jan:

assana khanom,

you want to talk about shaahnameh, as they say in our "proud language"
een gooyo een meydaan, pass begard taa begardam.

>I agree that every once in a while someone starts the thread
>and that sci exhausts it, and that the words' intersection is not NULL, and
>sometimes we sound like a broken record, repeating the same thing. 
 ^^^^^^^^^
SOMETIMES!? we have been sounding like a broken record for the past
2500 years of our "proud history".

>However, I have to disagree with you on it being "boring". 

i meant boring for me, i can only speak for myself. so your disagreement
is well taken.

>I don't know about you, but most of us who work and mingle with americans, 
>or hang around iranians who do the same, tend to have rusty farsi skills, 
>ESPECIALLY where vocabulary is concerned.  I, personally, think that this
>is one of the most interesting, informative, and cultural subjects that 
>come up on sci, and one that usually involves the most participants.
>For every person who is NOT learning anythign new, there are people
>who ARE. And that is important.

assanaye azeez, what does rusty farsi skills have to do with
shaahnaameh?

my point, which i can see you have totally missed as usual, was that
the farsi that is spoken today is far from what is written in shahna.
we are living in different times, our culture as well as our language
and... have gone through much changes, and if you like to brush up on
your "rusty farsi skills" i recommend the following:

first get to your nearest persian bookstore and try reading for a
change, and second, try hanging around iranians who have a better
command on persian vocabulary (which maybe very hard in your case).

>Zamie jan, please keep up the good work. Maybe in time even behzad will 
>come to appriciate it! :)

"EVEN BEHZAD", wow, you must really believe in the fairy tales.

>--
>         ^-^
>        /o o\
>       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
>          -   
 
with highest regards,
behzad


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: A few pure Persian words from Shah-Nama
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:53:45 GMT

cheragh@alborz.mti.sgi.com (Mash Cheragh-Ali) writes:

>                                    .       | .   | c                         
>                           _w q >  _9   4_o |_,_8 |_w                         
>                        (_S   /   /                                           
>			_____________________________
>
>                           |                             .                    
>                   _w    | |_w    . _   >    o >  _    _7_        _w_         
>                (_S     (|       (_): /     (    /.   (_.  /   (_S  .         
>
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>        _w   |_    . _ ]_    o >  _)  o ]_      o_7_c                         
>     (_S   /  c   (_):  .   (    /         /   ( .                            

Mash CherAgh,

here's a modified version of the above for your efforts:


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                      _|_e_c | _7     w_o   4_o |_,_c | _7
                   (_S        /c   (_/                 /c
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         q_w >  _)   . _ ]_    o >  _)  o ]_      o_7_c
       / /     /    (_):  .   (    /         /   ( .


Khasteh nabAshi,

    --mack
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nofal@alfred.carleton.ca (Mostafa Nofal)
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:04:34 GMT

In <43177@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> revans@euclid.ucsd.edu (Ron Evans) writes:

><9301070105.AA05389@apollo3.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian):
>                                          
>>"The only duty religion requires of a married woman is
>>submitting to sexual relations with the husband," she said.

>	I don't understand.  How often does the woman have to
>	submit?  What if she is only rarely in the mood?

The answer for the first part is:
As often as her husband would like. This may be done
as many times a night as he wishes provided he and to my limited knowledge
only the husband may perform ablution or has a complete path after
each sexual act. The latter is completely different than
the final path that MUST be done by both, husband and wife,
in order to be able to be pure and can prey, fast, etc.
The second part is simply answered nicely in the Quran Surat Elbqra
(The Cow) Chapter 1, Verse 222, which says
*****************************************************************
``Your women are your fertilized ground. Therefore, approach your
fertilized grounds any way you want (provide no sodomy involved)
and prepare it for yourself and ritualize Allah. And make sure
you will meet him (Allah) and comfort the believers.''
*****************************************************************

My friend look how nicely Allah instructed a man to perform sex with
his wife. You must prepare your woman before full intercourse as it is
been mentioned in Islam. Therefore, as a good muslim during
preparation which involves kissing, hugging, etc. sometimes just talk
will give any sensible man indications to continue or to stop because
his woman is not in the mood. How pretty is Islam, thanks to Allah for
his blessing to reveal it to us through the best human being 
Muhamad (SAAWS). Man it has an answer to the very fine aspect of our
daily life.

>	I have also a hypothetical question.  Two Muslim
>	women were raped today on different streets in the
>	city. One was wearing the hijab, the other
>	western dress and lipstick.  Would (should?) both
>	rapists receive equally severe punishment?

The rapists MUST be killed or stoned in Islam regardless
the religion of the woman being raped period.
The only difference between the two women if they happened to be
living in a land that its law according to Quran and Sunna, the
second one should be punished for her ignoring an order from Allah.
Hijab is a duty not a dress. Unfortunately many of the so-called
muslim women who impressed with western values which have some
good to it, think it is a backward dress. Once again it is not
a dress, it is a way to stop racism based on sex. It
makes aware that he must behave and respect the woman talking with
him in business, school, etc.

Yours

Mostafa Nofal

I hope that Allah forgive of I did a mistake or I misunderstand.
And I and my family will be always fearing him.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Re; Report: US insists Pakistan ... [sci-poster]
Organization: Victim Platform
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:27:37 GMT

In article <lkun6kINNnum@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Mohamad Ebrahimi
<ebrahim@ee.UManitoba.CA> writes:
>
>
>>From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
>>Subject: Report: U.S. insists Pakistan prove it's not backing terrorists 
>>Message-ID: <1993Jan9.183119.11643@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>
>
>>	ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- The United States has given Pakistain 180
>>days to prove it is not promoting international terrorism, or else face
>>weapons and trade sanctions, a report in Islamabad said Saturday.

>     Wow! Pure American style justice! " YOU are guilty, until YOU prove
>     yourself innocent"!

Isn't it interesting that when one reviews governments' [Grammer-1A: this
was a plural word - HFN] behaviours, one discovers common practices that
are stripped off the concept of "purely [fill in here the government of the
country your choice] style justice?"  This is what is also referred to as 
the "Victim Responsibility" in human rights circles.

For example in Iran today, the government of Iran has drafted similar
allegations against Baha'is as follows:  YOU are guilty (because you believe
there is a messenger of God after Prophet Muhammad pbuh), until YOU
prove yourself innocent (when you denounce your beliefs).

>     But, after all, what can one expect from a government who shoots down
>     a civilian airliner, and then treats the commander of the warship as
>     a hero by giving honor medal to him?!

'ey gofti!  ghorboon-e dahanet, dAee!'  Yes, what can one expect from
these governments, I wonder?

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: I
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:12:42 GMT

---

 IRAN WARNS PERSIAN GULF'S NEIGHBOURS 
    NICOSIA, Dec 27, Rtr - Iran stepped up attacks on its Arab
neighbours over three Iranian islands on Sunday and warned it would cut off
the arms of anyone with claims on its territory. 
    ``We will curtail the hands of those who have the least territorial
ambitions against Iran,'' the Iranian news agency IRNA quoted parliamentary
speaker Ali Akbar Nateq-Nouri as saying in parliament. 
    IRNA said 190 deputies of the 270-seat parliament issued a statement urging
Persian Gulf states ``to avoid any act which may sow discord among Moslems.'' 
    The deputies said territorial claims in the Gulf region were ``not to the
benefit of anyone, and those states which once fostered such claims gained
nothing but damage and destruction for themselves and the region.'' 
    The Iranian statements were the latest since a Gulf Cooperation Council
summit on Wednesday voiced support for the United Arab Emirates in its dispute
with Iran over the island of Abu Musa and the Greater and Lesser Tumb islands. 
    The GCC -- which besides the UAE also groups Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar
and Saudi Arabia -- asked Iran to reverse what it sees as the annexation of Abu
Musa and to pull out of the two other islands. 
    On Saturday, Iran's Supreme National Security Council told the GCC states
it was ready to defend the three disputed islands militarily and reminded them
of Iran's eight-year war with Iraq. 
    Iranian President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said in his Friday prayer sermon
the Gulf states ``will have to cross a sea of blood'' to reach the islands. 
    Iran has dismissed a UAE claim to the islands as unfounded and said a 1971
agreement to share Abu Musa with the UAE emirate of Sharjah still applied. 
    It says the islands near the entrance to the Gulf have historically
belonged to it. The dispute flared this year after Iran tightened its control
over Abu Musa. 
 REUTER DYA TG 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,isu.cc.vincent
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Top Worldwide Poster "az khodemooneh" :-) 
Followup-To: poster
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:59:20 GMT

In <1993Jan12.015417.14906@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>In article <1it650INN7pu@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> 
>fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh) writes:

>>The following data was extracted from the full set of USENET readership 
>>report for the months of November AND December 1992 posted to news.lists 
>>by Mr. Brian Reid. Please see the companion post in that newsgroup for 
>>explanations of how the various figures were estimated.

>From the very same newsgroup (news.lists) we bring you the 
>Top 5 News Submitters by User by number of 
>articles for the last 2 weeks ending Jan 8, 1993.

>--------------------------------------
>From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
>Subject: Top 25 News Submitters by User by number of articles for the last 2 wee
>ks
>Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:32:14 -0500
>Organization: UUNET Communications
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>NNTP-Posting-Host: batch.uu.net


>         No. of       % of
>Rank Articles KBytes Total   User
>   1  3152    3634.5  0.9%   ldm@wetterhorn.UCAR.EDU  (UNIDATA Local Data Mangem
>ent daemon)
>                              100% ncar.weather

>   2   302     283.8  0.1%   sehari@iastate.EDU  (Babak Sehari)
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                              11% soc.culture.iranian

>   3   285      25.8  0.0%   skunz@iastate.EDU  (Steven L Kunz)
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                              10% news.admin.misc
>                              10% news.admin.policy

>   4   197       9.7  0.0%   alex@stoic.spb.su  (Alex R. Passechnik)
>                              92% relcom.commerce.food

>   5   192      92.8  0.0%   maynor@ra.MSSTATE.EDU  (        Natalie Maynor )
>                              100% bit.listserv.words-l
>-------------------------------------------

>Oh, by the way, ldm@wetterhorn is a weather conditions report daemon at 
>UCAR (University Corporation for Atmospheric Research).

>But number 2 is .... :-)


>Gives a new twist to the term "Graduate School" ::-)


>Asghary

> 

It is noteworthy to learn that the runner up to me is also from Iowa State! :-)
I personally, believe this due to superb computer facilities that we have 
over here.  After all, what other computer can take 4M byte of Mail just for
one user and still have plenty more room to accept mail.  This just mail
advantage not to mention verity of computers that are available here,
anything from HDS super computer (Wylber), to vax, to DEC workstations, to
PC Sig CD ROM shareware library.

Therefore, I believe their budget should be increased even more to enable them
to expand even more.

                    With highest regards,
                         Babak   Sehari.
--
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: AI: death penalty news - Dec 92
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:15:41 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1993Jan6.140750.23012@Princeton.EDU>, bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
> In article <9301060251.AA04446@apollo3.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
> 
>>There are still some problems:
>>   
>>a. It is not clear to me that "announced" refers to "official" announcements
>>   and not other sources.
>>   (I assume you mean government announcements; MKO also has "official"
>>   announcements)
>>                    
>>b. Even if "announced" refers to government announcements, the word
>>   "announce" is used for the year 1989 only but not any other years.
>>          
>>c. Although the title of the report is "Death penalty news: Dec 1992",
>>   the figures given start in 1989 but no figure is given for 1992
>>   except for the 17 executed on Oct. 18, 1992. Why is that?
>>   
>>d. What is the grounds for the claim that "the total figure in each year
>>   is expected to be considerably higher"?  Clearly it can not be
>>   government announcements.
>>                        
>> - Farzin
>>             
> 
> farzin jan, to answer your questions, i must admit that hossein
> was totally wrong, and what he quoted earlier was another ploy by
> the mojahedeen to discredit the human rights record of the regime.
> actually, AI chose iran as the first country in the world to respect
> all aspects of human rights and called on other countries to use the
> iranian approach as a guide. 
> 
> there you go, happy now?
> 
> behzad
> 

now i am totally confused. are you serious or are you just making a sarcasm?

zafar
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Test. [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 11 Jan 1993 17:26:20 GMT
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Distribution: world
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To: sci-anon-poster 


Another stupid test. Sue me !
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: A Few Persian Words from Shah-Nama
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:51:39 GMT


Drood bar Doostan:

With a popular demand and uprising of Iranian people, this episode is
being returned from exile (and no foreign intervention)!!!


Ab-Yari = (noun)  irrigation       
Ex: Mardom Keshavarz Mash-Gool Ab-Yari Maza-reei Boodand.
(synonyms: ???? Please help!)

Aras-Tan = (verb) To arrange
Ex: Dokh-Tarha Sar-Garm Arastan Mohayeh Khood Bodand Barayeh Mehmani.
(synonyms: Dorost Kardan)

Par-Khash = (adg) quarrel
Ex: Dou Ta Adam Dar Kheyaban Mash-gool Par-Khash Beh Yek-diegar Boodand.
(synonyms: Da-ava, Bad-O-Bira goftan)

Parishan = (adj) To disturb, distressed
Ex: Mohayeh Khanoom Parishan Bood.    or    Agha Abbas Vaz-Ash kheyli
Parishan Bood.
(synonyms: Baham-Khordeh)

Rooy-Pichidan = (verb) To turn away
Ex: Sarbaz-ha Az Dastoor Farmandeh Khood Rooy Pichidan.
(synonyms: Khodary Kardan, Faman-Bordari Nakardan)


Please feel free to add, correct, or comment.

Khoda Negah Dar

Newsgroups: isu.cc.vincent,soc.culture.iranian
From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall)
Subject: Re: Top Worldwide Poster "az khodemooneh" :-) 
Followup-To: isu.cc.vincent
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:38:42 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
}
}>         No. of       % of
}>Rank Articles KBytes Total   User
}>   1  3152    3634.5  0.9%   ldm@wetterhorn.UCAR.EDU  (UNIDATA daemon)
}>   2   302     283.8  0.1%   sehari@iastate.EDU  (Babak Sehari)
}                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
}>   3   285      25.8  0.0%   skunz@iastate.EDU  (Steven L Kunz)
}                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

}>But number 2 is .... :-)
}
}
}It is noteworthy to learn that the runner up to me is also from Iowa State! :-)
}I personally, believe this due to superb computer facilities that we have 
}over here.

Well then you would be personally wrong!

The reason Steve had so many postings was to send out CANCELs for
all the crap you posted with your latest stupid little stunt!!!

With lowest regard,
John
-- 
John Hascall                   ``An ill-chosen word is the fool's messenger.''
Systmes Software Engineer
Project Vincent
Iowa State University Computation Center  +  Ames, IA  50011  +  515/294-9551
From: majidi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Masoud Majidi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: The Persain calender year
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:30:49 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

mehdizadeh@asl.slb.com writes:

>I was wondering if any one out their knows what the Persian Calender is
>based upon?  In other words what happened 1372 years ago?

The origin of the persian calendar is the same as the Muslim calendar and
is when prophet Mohammad and some of his followers fleed Mecca for their
lives and went to Medina. This historic trip is known as 'Hijre' (Hejrat
in persian) and that is why we refer to the dates in our calendar as 'Hejri
Shamsi'. Also 'shams' means sun and it refers to how we measure the length
of the year (i.e. the length of our year is the time it takes the earth to 
orbit the sun, ~355.4 days)

Regards,

--
Masoud Majidi                           Internet: majidi@umdnj.edu
Academic Computing Services             Voice: (908) 463-4839
University of Med & Dent of NJ          Fax:   (908) 463-5252
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: POLISH OIL IMPORTS FROM IRAN TO REMAIN STEADY
Date: 10 Jan 1993 08:38:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <babak.726635223@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu> Babak Sehari writes:
>
> POLISH OIL IMPORTS FROM IRAN TO REMAIN STEADY 
  ^^^^^^^^^^
wow!  not too long ago my parents had to wait in line for three months 
to get a refrigerator, and iran's already exporting furniture cleaning products?
thats impressive...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: EARTHQUAKE HITS SOUTHERN IRAN 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:08:53 GMT



 EARTHQUAKE HITS SOUTHERN IRAN 
    NICOSIA, Jan 7, Reuter - An earthquake measuring 5.7 on the Richter scale
shook southern Iran on Thursday, Tehran Radio said. 
    It did not say if any damage was caused by the quake which struck at 2.21
a.m. (2251 GMT on Wednesday) in an area near Shiraz about 700 km (440 miles)
south of Tehran. Six smaller aftershocks followed within two hours, the radio
added. 
    Earthquakes around force 6.0 on the Richter scale can cause widespread
damage. 
 REUTER MZ JP 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Re; Haji's KABOB KOBIDE [sci-anon-poster]
Followup-To: assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:36:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot

In article <ll4vrmINN34r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>In article <ll4iolINN2go@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:
>>
>>I have three suggestions for your recipe. I hope that you don't mind.
>
>shahrAm recommends to knead the ground beef the night before
>making kabAb looleh:
>
Geeee! Sharam, sharokh, haji firooz: all these local chefs on sci! 
I suggest a looleh-kabab [(c) sharokh, when in ahvaz! :)] 
contest!! and those who can't cook but can taste [ahemm ahemm!] can judge! :)


-- 
         ^-^
        /o o\
       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
          -   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: IRAN EXPELS DOCTOR WHO OPERATED ON WRONG LEG 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:08:51 GMT

---

 IRAN EXPELS DOCTOR WHO OPERATED ON WRONG LEG 
    NICOSIA, Dec 27, Reuter - Iran has expelled a Bangladeshi doctor who
operated on the wrong leg of a patient with a broken bone. 
    The Iranian news agency said on Sunday the doctor, who was working at a
hospital in Semnan, southeast of Tehran, had been given one month to leave
Iran. 
 REUTER DYA TG