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From: srivasta@graceland.pilgrim.umass.edu (Manoj Srivastava)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Purchase bug? in um5.5
Keywords: purchase
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:43:28 GMT
Reply-To: srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst


In article <52055@dime.cs.umass.edu>, I complained about not being
able to purchase any item. Looking thru the code, I followed the
thread to get_com in io.c and then to in_key(), and noticed an ifdef
for atarist and __GNUC__, which does another getch in case the
previous one returned a value less than 0. <light flash>!. I _did_
compile with gcc-2.2.2, so I went back and recompiled withh cc, and it
works now. I wonder if making the io.c hack depend on __GNUC__ or
atarist (instaed of requiring both) work? Has anyone succesfully
compiled with gcc on a non-atari platform? (All references to GNUC are
also references to atarist)

	manoj
 
source/config.h:177:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/externs.h:25:#if !defined(atarist) || !defined(__GNUC__)
source/externs.h:1289:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:16:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:112:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:241:#if !defined(atarist) && !defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:250:#if !defined(atarist) && !defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:291:#if !defined(atarist) && !defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:318:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:541:#if !defined(atarist) && !defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:551:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/io.c:824:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/main.c:137:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/signals.c:195:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/signals.c:213:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/signals.c:234:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/signals.c:235:  /* Atari ST compiled with GNUC has most signals, but we need a cast
source/signals.c:325:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/signals.c:331:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
source/variable.c:102:#if defined(atarist) && defined(__GNUC__)
From: bigham@acpub.duke.edu (Scott Bigham)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Scroll of *Enchant Armour*
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:00:03 GMT
Organization: n. Arrangement in an orderly or logical fashion.  See "miracle".

From the Holy Book of <1992Aug14.172817.8283@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
  as spake by jeffers@vax.oxford.ac.uk :
>In article <1992Aug14.131751.19325@bnr.ca>, drumsey@bcarh552.bnr.ca 
>(David Rumsey) writes:
>> I recently found a scroll of *Enchant Armour*, because of the *'s I
>> assumed it was something really special. When I read it, I was told
>> that my shield (+9) glowed, then the enchantment failed. [...]

Not surprising.

A Scroll of *Enchant Armor* has exactly the same effect as reading 2 or
3 Scrolls of (normal) Enchant Armor on the same piece of armor.  Since
the probability of successfully enchanting a +9 piece of armor is quite
low in the first place, it's still fairly likely that all three virtual
scrolls will fail.

Similarly, a Scroll of *Enchant Weapon* is equivalent to reading 1 or 2
Scrolls of Enchant Weapon To-Hit and 1 or 2 Scrolls of Enchant Weapon
To-Dam, with the same proviso for your (+9,+9) weapon.

						-sbigham
-- 
Scott Bigham                   | "This is our path; to fight or die."
bigham@hercules.acpub.duke.edu | "That's what we're paid for, so let's
                               |     do it with some _style_!"
                               |                Dr. Who, "Battlefield"
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: swota@cs.albany.edu (Judith A Swota)
Subject: Re: Getting your stuff back
Originator: swota@karp.albany.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:39:48 GMT

In posting <...> chore@neumann.une.edu.au (Prince Of Darkness,Silent,Lucidity,.) wrote:
 
> > In article <BspHtn.3F9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> lrfox@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (linda ream fox) writes:
> >>
> > 
> > Hear hear!  I've done that as well...nearly died fighting something
> > and after the battle and usually some considerable loss of 
> > something I realize I was fighting with my pick.  It would be nice
> > to see what weapon you're fighting with.
> > 
> 
> 
> If you people can't manage your money well enough so that you have
> to take to mining for a living then you don;t belong in the dungeons
> go and start a nice wepons shop, or better yet a magic shop, i'll
> be one of your best customers :)
> 
> Personally i give up mining at about exp level 20, by then you either have
> enough money not to have to mine, or you never will, go deeper, find some
> cool items and sell them! like me!
>  ...

> So forget mining..

I came in in the middle of this conversation, so perhaps this comment is
out of place, but I usually hang onto my Pick so that I can continue to
get through walls and rubble if I'm a character without the Stone-to-Mud
spell or wand.  I'm no longer mining for treasure (because you're right:
you can get a lot more money for neat magical items), but I'm not yet
strong enough to bash through obstacles with my (DF) or (HA) (Hah Indeed!
- I've never found one of THOSE yet) weapon.  And yes, occasionally I
TOO find that I've been beating on a baddie with my weak little pick
by mistake...
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Judith               | 	The earth is like a tiny grain of sand...
		     | 	
swota@cs.albany.edu  |          Only much, much heavier.
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: angus@hardy.u.washington.edu (Angus the Demonchild)
Subject: Re: Crossposting
Keywords: Ring of WOE {dammit}
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:26:56 GMT

In article <A12308@UN.maus.de> Martin_Loos@un.maus.de (Martin Loos) writes:
>Kommentar zur persoenlichen Mitteilung P3562@KI
>Alas,
>
>I had a little troble down on 1400 ft. After slaying an Mummified
>Human I discovered a the following object:
>
>a Ring of WOE [-3] (-5) {damned}
>
>Does anybody know what this object is good for? (or better, is worse
>for?) and, of course, what the numbers in braces should mean to me.

Well, the [-3] means (I think) that the ring will reduce your AC by 3
points, the (-5) means that it will reduce all your statistics by 5
points, and the {damned} flag means that once you put it on, you'll
have a hard time getting it off.  Don't concern yourself with it.  In
earlier versions these were actually useful for raising one's
statistics, but those 'features' have since been fixed.

>so long...
>Mattin
--
Disclaimer:  I could be wrong.  It wouldn't be the first time.

another fine product from the house of angst
From: Robyn.C.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Robyn C. Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Suggestion for new weapon
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:20:46 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Or a new potion! Upon quaffing a Red Lumpy Potion:
"Ouch! It burns your mouth! -more-"
"You have no more Potions of Salsa."

or a Grainy Brown Potion:
"The potion makes you defecate! -more-"
"You have no more Potions of Metamucil."

Robyn Reed
robyn.c.reed@dartmouth.edu
after Aug.22: reedrc@wfunet.efu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: cjmcgee1@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER JOHN MCGEE)
Subject: Re: Colour Moria. Where?????
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:31:11 GMT

A crossbow fires bolts (they are like short thick arrows).
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Why Won't My Moria Compile ??
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:39:35 GMT

When I tried to compile Moria 5.5 I got through most of the 
source code. However three files wouldn't compile.

They are

save.c  - error More characters in character constant than fit 
		in int(ANSI 3.1.3.4)

io.c    - error TIOCGETC undefined  and unknown size

signals.c  - error Argument 2 Type Doesn't Match prototype description; 
		prototype:  pointer to function returning void is different
		from actual:  pointer to function returning int 
         	(void) signal(3        , signal_handler);
      	      -----------------------------------------^

Anybody have any answers? There are only 3 problems that might be the
cause. 1)I don't know what or where PC-Curses is/are
	2)I don't have UNIX 4.2 only 4.1.1
	 3)I don't know what the hell I ma doing.

If you could help me out with htis problem let me know.

Thanks

Matthew
From: srivasta@graceland.pilgrim.umass.edu (Manoj Srivastava)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Purchase bug? in um5.5
Keywords: purchase
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:13:01 GMT
Reply-To: srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst


I had a um 5.4 save file, and i started a brand new um 5.5 game.
Things work fine, except when I go into a store and try to purchase
anything. When I hit p, I get a message saying:

(Items a-l, ESC to exit) Which item are you interested in?

and then any letter just results in a beep. All other commands in the
store work fine, I could even sell items. Any takers?

	manoj

--
version:  Umoria Version 5.5 patch level 0 (formerly UNIX Moria)
System: Decstation 5000/200;

ULTRIX V4.2A (Rev. 47) System #2: Wed Jul 15 09:55:29 EDT 1992
UWS V4.2A (Rev. 420)

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From: u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Anthony Chan)
Subject: Searching (ring) & Staff of Destruction
Organization: UT
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:48:28 GMT

Hi!

I've only been playing Moria for a short time and I need some help

Firstly what is a Ring of Searching [+10] - I have two and both seem to have
no apparent uses.

I found a Staff of *Destruction* at 300 feet (wow) when is the best time to
use such an item? - I saved off and experimented with it so why can't I
it.

My character is a 22 level mage so what level should I be working on(ie what
is the most suitable level to be on).  Is there a formula or work by.  I find
that after killing a monster or two I have to rest to regain mana.


Am I right in saying that a Ring of Adornment is useless (hope so - I've sold
it)

Send e-mail to the net or my address  u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au

Anthony Chan


I have a Flail[FT] (+7, +4) - it's too heavy for me to use (at the moment)
should I keep it and what does [FT] mean.
From: mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew J. Bernhardt)
Newsgroups: rec.games.moria
Subject: Re: Scroll of *Enchant Armour*
Keywords: *Enchant Armour*
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:24:24 GMT
Organization: UB

lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:

>The enchant scroll you found will enchant any Armour by *2* but NO
>armor or weapon can be enchanted past 9 with scrolls...
>-morgan

Spoiler!


	Not true.  A +9 enchantment reduces the probability of further
enchantment to 10%.  +10 and beyond reduces the probability to a mere 0.5%,
making additional enchantment at that point impractical, but not impossible.
-- 
Matt Bernhardt
University of Buffalo             THIS SPACE FOR RENT.
mjb@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: kenf@darkstar.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Fortenberry)
Subject: Tipping your guide
Reply-To: kenf@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:32:46 GMT

I've read in this newsgroup that it is customary to give a tip 
after a chartered fishing trip. I've never been on a charter boat
so that was news to me.

I've also never hired a guide before but I've hired a guy to take
me fly fishing in Yellowstone for a day. Is it customary to tip
your guide ? If so, what's an appropriate tip for a $200 day of
fishing ?

--
Ken Fortenberry                            | Internet: kenf@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | BITNET: KENF@UIUCVMD.BITNET
Computing & Communications Services Office | UUCP: uunet!uiuc.edu!kenf 
1304 W. Springfield Ave.  Urbana, IL 61801 | Phone: (217) 244-3215
From: sro@lulea.trab.se (Sven-Rune Olofsson)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: reel prices
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:41:44 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Some colleauges of mine are probably going over that big water to
participate in a conference in Boston/MA.
I've heard that spinning reel prices in the US are far below what you need to
come up with back here (Sweden). What price, at it's cheapest, can you expect
for a ABU-GARCIA Ambassadeur 9000 CL ? Are there any special sport fishing
shops that you can recommend ?

        Sven-Rune Olofsson, Lulea, Sweden
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:15:51 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


I have tipped guides in Oregon and California and like has been said before
you normally tip per how you did that day.  My usual tip is ~20%.  If you 
are using a guide out of a Fly shop their take will be smaller and I will
usually give a bigger tip if the guide worked hard.  I also tip higher 
if I am doing a guided float trip.  the guides have to work very hard to
get you in good spots and thus I will give more.  The usual tip for an 
Oregon Float trip is around $50, but then I have used the same guide for
the last 12 years or so.  The float trips do include a fantastic trout
lunch which is well worth the tip!!!

Dave
-- 
Dave Fleck                              Hewlett-Packard Co.  Colorado Springs
Internet: fleck@col.hp.com              Information Technology Center
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Robert Golder)
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Organization: Marine Biological Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:21:51 GMT

In article <92Aug14.215538.16875@acs.ucalgary.ca>, powlesla@
acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
> 
> 
> During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
> wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
> inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
> discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.
> 
> In any case, after seeing how well this supposedly high-quality
> case held up to the baggage compartment, I have the following
> question: Where can I buy a better rod case?
>
As others have said, building your own rod case from PVC tubing is
an excellent solution to the problem of damage due to improper
baggage handling by your airline.  However, it is still possible for the
airline to lose your luggage.  A wilderness trip cannot be salvaged  if
your gear has been lost.

I use a pack rod which breaks down into four sections.  This is a fly rod,
but I assume that other types of rods are also available in multiple
sections.  The tube is short enough to bring  as carry-on luggage.  
In July I traveled from Boston to the North Slope of Alaska for a 
two-week stay.  I brought all my gear as carry-on luggage.  This meant
that nothing was lost or broken, and I was able to change planes 
without waiting for baggage.  Careful planning  and packing makes
it possible.

Bob 
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: starkey@cs.montana.edu (Denbigh Starkey)
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Organization: CS
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:28:50 GMT

In article <BsvKEn.89E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kenf@uiuc.edu writes:
>I've never hired a guide before but I've hired a guy to take
>me fly fishing in Yellowstone for a day. Is it customary to tip
>your guide ? If so, what's an appropriate tip for a $200 day of
>fishing ?
>
>--
>Ken Fortenberry                            | Internet: kenf@uiuc.edu
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | BITNET: KENF@UIUCVMD.BITNET
>Computing & Communications Services Office | UUCP: uunet!uiuc.edu!kenf 
>1304 W. Springfield Ave.  Urbana, IL 61801 | Phone: (217) 244-3215

I talked last night to the wife of a guy who guided for about 10 years
in the Bozeman area, and she said that it was very unusual for people
not to tip.  He primarily worked for Montana Troutfitters and The River's
Edge, and it is probable that they told their customers that a tip for the 
guide was normal.  She said that tips usually ranged from $20-$50, 
depending on the person and on how well the day went.  The tip seems
to be about the only real profit made by the guides when they are
working for an outfitter.

In a later post Ken described problems with some of the stores in the
Livingston area.  I've never used a commercial guide, but have been in
the stores that he mentioned, and have always found that both Bailey's
and Anderson's are willing to spend time giving good advice.  In Bozeman
the two stores in the last paragraph are also very good.

Now I'm out of here to go to Slough Creek and to try to get some big fish
on a light fly rod.  Hoppers are all over, so it should be good.

Denbigh S.
starkey@cs.montana.edu, starkey@mtsunix1.bitnet
406-994-4780 (work), 406-586-7614 (home)
From: gt@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (George Tatge)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:53:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Setting the Hook
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

>For starters, don't use bait for trout fishing.  You will usually hook them
>very deep with bait.  Lures and flies are always (I've never seen one  
>otherwise) hooked somewhere in the mouth area (snagging discounted).  If 
>you must bait fish for them, try to go barbless.  If you do, a hook remover
>=============================================================================

I have to disagree.  For many years my fishing was almost exclusively
trout fishing in Oregon rivers.  I would say that 90% of the trout
we caught with bait (salmon eggs or worms) were lip hooked.  This
was accomplished by setting the hook at the second sign of a strike.

By contrast, there is very little control with three hook spinners.
How badly the fish gets hooked seems to depend on a good of a lunge
they made for the lure.  I have had to keep trout I wanted to release
simply because they got hooked so badly with all three hooks.

BTW, with tripple hook spinners you should definitely get rid of
the barbs.  Barbs are total overkill in this case.

I believe the difference between bait and lure hooking is because the
trout tend to be much more tentative with drifting bait and much more
agressive with swimming lures.

g (... so I told Charlie that a 40 lb. Dolly Varden wasn't really a
   keeper around these parts so he threw it back) t
From: daryl@bovill.auspex.com (Daryl Starr)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Bluegill, Sunnies, Pumkinseeds, etc.
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:41:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems

In article <920821072902@joker.ftp.com>, rodin@vax.ftp.com (Jon Rodin) writes:
|> wesm@mbunix.mitre.org (Miller) writes:
|>
|> 
|> Pumpinkseed (Lepomis gibbosus)
|>     Range includes northeastern US to midwest and southern Canada.
|> 
|> Bluegill (Lepomis macrochirus)
|>     Range same as Warmouth.
|> 
|> Redear Sunfish (Lepomis microlophus)
|>     streams, ponds, lakes and resevoirs with vegetation.  Range is south-
|>     eastern US.


Curious that the field guide doesn't list the western states
as part of the range for any of these fish! We have all of them out here.

Daryl
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: fishman@tracker.rtp.dg.com (Mike Fishman)
Subject: Re: BASS PRO SHOPS
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:51:04 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp., Westboro, MA

In article <1992Aug10.200826.26998@relay.nswc.navy.mil> rhott@nswc.navy.mil (The VolleyDog - E41) writes:
>Anyone have the Bass Pro Shop phone number handy?  I have misplaced my
>(albeit old) copy.  Thanks.
>
1-800-bass-pro

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: Bluegill, Sunnies, Pumkinseeds, etc.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:17:34 GMT

In article <920821072902@joker.ftp.com>, rodin@vax.ftp.com  (Jon Rodin) writes:
|> 
|> Pumpinkseed (Lepomis gibbosus)
|> 
|> Warmouth (Lepomis gulosus)
|> 
|> Bluegill (Lepomis macrochirus)
|> 
|> Redear Sunfish (Lepomis microlophus)
|> To 14", 4-1/2 lbs.
|> 
|> Black Crappie (Pomoxis nigromaculatus)


1) I sure thought the world record shellcraker (redear sunfish) was 
   much larger than mentioned above.

2) I don't think that the set of sunfish posted to date includes all 
   that I am aware of (forgive the non-English).  I think that green sunfish,
   rock bass, and white crappie were mentioned previously. Let's include;

     Redbreast Sunfish (Lepomis Auritus).

     Flier (Centrachus Macropterus).

     Roanoke Bass (???????) Might be limited to certain rivers in NC.


Any more??

			-Pat.


     

2)
|> 
|> Jon
|> rodin@ftp.com
|>
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:59:21 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

kenf@darkstar.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Fortenberry) writes:
| I've read in this newsgroup that it is customary to give a tip 
| after a chartered fishing trip. I've never been on a charter boat
| so that was news to me.
| 
| I've also never hired a guide before but I've hired a guy to take
| me fly fishing in Yellowstone for a day. Is it customary to tip
| your guide ? If so, what's an appropriate tip for a $200 day of
| fishing ?                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^

How about the name of your financial advisor?


-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Colorado Fishing All Tied up in Nylon!
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:00:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <364@evtprp0b.UUCP> mrt7455@evtprp0b.UUCP (Michael R Tucker) writes:
|In article <1992Aug13.024423.6740@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> gauss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GAUSS  REBECCA BANKER) writes:
|
|I decided this summer that when my kids and I tangle our lines that I
|would pocket the stuff I cut out and deposit it in the trash when the
|day was over.  I have even take to picking up the wads some
|inconsiderate jerk left around.  My kids are getting into the habit
|too.  I hope it sticks with them.
 
If the line is 25# test or larger it can be used for making eyes for 
dragonfly imitations.  Ironically most of the fishing line found always
seems to be 25# test or larger.  That way when you hook into it you're
sure to break your line as well and add it, and your lure, to the collection.
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,alt.fishing
From: mikey@netcom.com (Mike Pechner)
Subject: Hotels in BC
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:10:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

I am going to Vancover in a couple of weeks and need hotel
recommendations.

I have a charter setup for a couple of days of salmon fishinbg.

Also would like info on a good sttel head stream in vancover or BC.


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