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From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Friendship Club
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:33:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Aug19.153343.58262
Organization: Utah State University



               CHINESE FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For application form please send inquiring by E-mail.
From: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Performance Enchancing Drugs in Olympics
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:37:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.77877
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <6130088@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>... 
>Because the American lost a number of metal they supposed to win. everyone?
>may be in the US team. In one event, I forgot which, Summer Saunders lost
>not only to a Chinese but Hungrian also just by thousandth second, she is
>drug too???. Yes, Our Hong Kong people can't get any metal because all others
>are druged :-0 :-0 :-). What an excuse?

Some friends of mine complained to me that NBC was extreme Great Americanist.
If US athletes were not in an event's final, say women's volleyball, it would
not show the final.  This was also exemplified by the remarks of their 
commentators.  I was in Canada watching some of the events live during the
Olympics.  So I didn't get that impression.  Anyway, it is not a good attitude
by any standard.  

Thanks for Charles Mok's detailed information about drug testing in swimming.
I have also heard that the Gold medalist will definitely be tested only if 
he/she has broken a world record. 

Andrew 
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|                                  | 
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|  University of Texas at Austin   |               - Kurt Hahn,  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Performance Enhancing Drugs in Olympics
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:18:25 GMT

In article <20492@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>In article <77548@ut-emx.uucp> onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>>
>>I personally do not preclude the possibility that those Chinese female
>>swimmers have used steriod.  I just don't understand that why mandatory
>>testing is not enforced in swimming and some other events?
>
>  Yes, I second any mandatory testing of performance enhancing drugs.
>>
>>You must remember Ben Johnson.  He was tested postive after he beat Carl 
>>Lewis in 100m in 1988.  I kind of respect him though.  He was competing 
>>again in Barcelona.  It really takes a lot of courage to do that. 
>
>  But I strongly object the decison to allow Johnson back on the track.
>  This can give a wrong message to other athletes that using drug is
>  not a big deal at all: Even though you got caught once, you can still
>  compete some time later.
>
>  In my point of view, a lifetime ban of any competition for a drug user
>  is more appropriate. At this time when the flesh capabilities of 
>  atheletes has been pushed to their very limits, I can anticipate a
>  bigger dependence on performance enhancing drugs in future games. If
>  we don't have some harsher penalty, the games in future will become
>  even much dirtier.
>
>  -- 
>  leoso@cs.arizona.edu 	"Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
>


Ben Johnson has been suspended to participate in any track and field
events for two years after he was found using steroid in the Olympics.
I think it is already a serious punishment for an athlete who is in 
his age of peak performance. 


-Raymond Choy-
From: lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:25:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug18.062500.23074
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

In article <1992Aug17.221223.3616@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>In <1992Aug18.032420.18886@CS.ORST.EDU>lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.125634.3609@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>>>In <5537@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)suggested the way to curb premarrital sex.
>>>
>>>I fail his requirments but I shall flame him immediately anyway.
>>>
>>>His ideas are nothing new but rather actual practices in some cultures
>>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>some time. He just have to take this sophomoric attitude that his
>>>sarcasm is too sophisticated for the audience of soc.culture.hongkong
>>>without first giving us warnings. We can do less with your pedantry.
>>
>>What cultures?
>
>What person are you asking?

Hey, Man.  You said some cultures practice what Cheung said.  So I like
to know what cultures.  :-)

--Ben
From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son
Date: 23 Aug 92 03:54:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.5081
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Brandon Lee made a couple Hollywood movies already, one with Dolph Lungren
(some stupid movie about two cops).  Seems like Brandon always appears with
dark hair and eyes.  Maybe he dyes his hair.  But I don't think he is going
for the Chinese martial art route.  His picture in an Actor's directory 
looks very Caucasian but in real life (well on screen anyway) he looks
mixed, with a strong Caucasian flavor though.  In my opinion, he doesn't l
resemble Bruce Lee at all.  But he seems to have similar physique though.

Ray

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kkc@hel.cs.wayne.edu (Kwok K. Chan)
Subject: Sam Hui's Concert
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:55:49 GMT


Last week, someone mentioned in this newsgroup that Sam Hui has
scheduled a concert in Toronto on 10/2.  Is it true? How many shows
he is going to have?  Beside Toronto, will he go to some other cities
also?

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Chinese Chess For Windows
Organization: IBM Australia/Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:38:38 GMT

In article <9838@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, albert@cs.uq.oz.au (Albert Ng) writes:
|> Hi guys,
|>  I saw my friend's posting looking for chinese chess
|> for MS-windows earlier. And all the reply mails reads
|> like this:
|> 
|> " If you get it, please send me a copy ! "
|> 
|> This is not really constructive, isn't it?

	** Nope! But they ain't very "destructive" either, are they? 

	   So what I'd suggest you here(and other people who are hacking
	     around looking for software of some sort) is try telneting
	     to 'archie.au'. An online database there maintains a list of
	     known FTP servers round the world and helps locate those 
	     that have the goodies you're after.  

	   Simply tn to 'archie.au' logging in with the name 'archie',
	     BTW no password is needed.

	   Use the command 'prog' there to search the database. That's the
	     one-and-only command that sounds useful(to me anyway). So,
	     can't be easier. To search for chinese chess, you may put in 
	     'prog chinese chess windows', and you'll find it hopefully.

	   Hope this helps and good luck mate!

---Cheers,
	Bill

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hwong@tc.fluke.COM (Yee Jyr Hwong)
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:53:47 GMT

This is a test. Please ignore.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Louis Lin)
Subject: Re: : Leaving Hong Kong
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:49:40 GMT

In article <BsuuLM.Dow@ecf.toronto.edu> kanj@ecf.toronto.edu (KAN JOHN KWOK LEUNG) writes:
>
>Don't you mean Space Invaders (the CLASSIC Video Game).  That was a game to 
>play.  It just never finished.
>

A real classic is the Ping Pong video game from Bang Bang.  It is non-carriage.  The
earlier version is B/W of a single game.  A later version is colour with 4 games to
choose from.  I wonder if anyone ever bought one of these, as they are very expensive.

>ttfn
>				A. Mak  (Using KANJ@ECF.TORONTO.EDU)
>
>E-Mail:
>
>KANJ@ECF.TORONTO.EDU
>G2MAKA@CDF.TORONTO.EDU
>
>

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bus462db2@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Japanese invasion
Keywords: don't cry ok
Organization: Department of Computing and Information technologies, Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:02:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.092028.20162@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c60a-aa@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Ka-Chung Wong) writes:
|> >I'm inclined to think China would have done the same to Japan if
|> >they'd had half the chance. I don't see any reason to believe that
|> >Chinese value Japanese lives any more than Japanese value Chinese
|> >lives. We know your gov't doesn't value its own citizens lives so why
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	
|> >should we expect otherwise? Lucky for Japan they were on the offensive
|>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >instead of the defensive, and that China was still too backward to be
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >a threat.
|> ^^^^^^^^^
|> >-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
|> >               CompuServe:  70402,3020
|> >               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266

	Tad's crap here is so vengeful, noisome, negligent, ill-informed,
low-minded, and conscienceless that surely deserves at least our denunci-
ation. And I have to express my disgust at your lack of respect to justice.
What you've claimed, that "Lucky for Japan they were on the offensive instead
of the defensive, and that China was still too backward to be a threat"(ha 
bloody ha) seems to reveal that you've got relationship of some sort with the
japanese or else worse are mentally defective. Well if you really think you 
should value our people's lives as our government does, you're no better
than our government, well, worse. Let's face it, you're kinda ugly.

	I hope you will post your confession here for all to see that you
don't quite know what you've said. Because what you don't know about what
you don't know won't hurt you. Otherwise, you should be duly chastised, beaten,
drawn, quartered(like what the japanese had done to us). 

|> All that we are demanding is just a simple apology.

	I disagree here. We should be definitely fighting for compensations,
not just written apologies. Although money doesn't do any good to the dead,
it's surely better than nothing anyway you know. And the japanese must pay
the price. A simple apology is not enough. Well, could I just say sorry if
I'd murdered your parents, and expecting you would forgive me? You wouldn't,
mate would you?

|> We are not promoting hatred.  Rather, we are trying to let the generations
|> to come to know the truth.  And hopefully, our children do not have to suffer
|> as our fathers and grandfathers had.
|> 
|> Leo Wong
|> c60a-aa@volga.berkeley.edu

---Good on you, baby
	Bill
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: lchan01.gif - HK popstar name confirmation request
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:41:39 GMT
Expires: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:00:00 GMT

akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM) writes:

>Hi netters,

>I think the popstar in lchan01.gif should be LEE Ching, rather than Lee Chan
>or Chan Lee. Would anyone confirm this?

>Does anyone know the English name of her?

>This is to make a description looks better. Moreover, the spelling will be used
>again when there're any more pictures of the same people in the future.
>Therefore, it's better to make sure the spelling does make sense and looks
>official. 

>The picture will be available in nok.lcs.mit.edu, under the directory
>/pub/hongkong/gif/popstars/guess. So you can have a look first
>before checking her name. If no one know, I'll change it to the following:

>clee01.gif	Lee Ching

>Please direct all suggestions to me <akwy@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au>.
>Suggestions will be collected until 23 Aug 1992.

>Many thanks in advance,
>Alan of HKPGCS.

As the ftp site nok.lcs.mit.edu is down from 19-21 August as told by
William Ang the system admin, the deadline is extended to 30 Aug 1992.

Alan of HKPGCS.
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From: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu (Shun Yan Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:22:44 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article <BtD6vt.6yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> clee@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Cassian Lee) 
writes:
>
>I was watching the Tonight show that other night. Brendon Lee, Bruce Lee's
>son, was a guest on the show to promote his new movie. I have never heard
>anything about him until now, does anyone know anything about him?? Is he
>the only child of Bruce and his American wife ??

He co-starred in an earlier movie: Big trouble in Little Tokyo.
I heard he was raised in Canada and his motheris a caucacian.
It's not unusual for a mixed (Chinese + Caucasian) child to have blond
hair at young age. As they grow older, their hair darkens. 
-- 
Shun Yan Cheung     |  cheung@mathcs.emory.edu      | Office: (404) 727-3823
Emory University    |  cheung@emory.bitnet          | Fax:    (404) 727-5611
Dept of Math and CS |  "Life deals you different suits. It's up to you how
Atlanta, GA 30322   |   to play them".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mann Me)
Subject: Re: Immigration
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: USA, Canada, Australia
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:58:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.212857.17618@ttinews.tti.com> yao@perform1.tti.com (Yuhan Yao) writes:
>
>Many people in Hong Kong and mainland China want to immigrate to other
>countries.  The overwhelming favorites are the States, Canada, and Australia
>(not necessarily in that order).
>
>How are these three countries compare to each other?
>I'm interested in comparisons on all aspects of life, like material living
>standard, education, career opportunities, health, and so on.
>
>It's sad that we have to leave our hometown, in search of a better life.

Ya it is sad but how will it ever improve if all the good ones leave!
Maybe in the short run it looks like these countries are better off
but if you have been observing the developments in the Asia-Pacific
region, you may think a little harder.  That region could be the
region of prosperity and importance in the next century!  Look at the
"tigers" or mini dragons!  And look at the feverish development in
southern China.  While the present Chinese government has done some
stupid things but I think they are also doing some very good things.
Perhaps they have been more cautious in their approach to large dose
of capitalism, IMHO it may be a good approach to avoid the sudden
collapse like the former USSR. Have a vision for your country!

>Well, which country is better?  and for what reasons?


The grass always seems greener on the other side 8).



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Me Han Mann        %  
mme@nyx.cs.du.edu  %
From: albert@cs.uq.oz.au (Albert Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Chinese Chess For Windows
Date: 17 Aug 92 03:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: albert@cs.uq.oz.au

In <9223012.7878@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:

>	** Nope! But they ain't very "destructive" either, are they? 

>	   So what I'd suggest you here(and other people who are hacking
>	     around looking for software of some sort) is try telneting
>	     to 'archie.au'. An online database there maintains a list of
>	     known FTP servers round the world and helps locate those 
>	     that have the goodies you're after.  

>	   Simply tn to 'archie.au' logging in with the name 'archie',
>	     BTW no password is needed.

>	   Use the command 'prog' there to search the database. That's the
>	     one-and-only command that sounds useful(to me anyway). So,
>	     can't be easier. To search for chinese chess, you may put in 
>	     'prog chinese chess windows', and you'll find it hopefully.

>	   Hope this helps and good luck mate!

Thanks for the humor! But really, this is much better than the reply mails which
are really requests! And definitly MORE constructive !

Just 1 problem! I already tried archie before I ask others!

I would've guess that would be a standard procedure before one post for help.

But thanks anyway!

Albert
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law *&* PRE-M.Sex in Chinese Soc'ts
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:25:42 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers

ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng) writes:
> 	I am against pre-marital sex, but at the same time, I respect the rights
> of people like Fred Au also.  When you are against something, you don't really
> have to argue with those who are for or even try to force them to follow you.

Well, "don't really have to argue with those" != blessing them "Good Luck,"
which is what you said in your previous posting. (I'm against cheating, and I 
won't bless a cheater.)

> Live your own life according to your own firm principles and they can
                                                           ???
> tell what's really good and what's bad for them.  I am not that radical.
> This is America anyways!  We got the freedom to make our own choice.  

Glad to hear that. But aren't you the one who posted around to raise the
question of "PMS" and asked "what can we do about it"? Didn't you want
to do something about it? Do you still want to do something about it? 
BTW, what did you find out what you can do about it? 

> If your friend decides to do something or live the kind of lifestyle which is
> different from your own, CAN'T YOU STILL REGARDLESSLY OFFER HIM/HER A WORD
> OF ADVICE?

Well, this is not a question of whether you can or cannot offer advice,
(and nobody asks anyway), but a question of how sincere you are in saying
that you are against "PMS." If somebody bless something he said he is 
against, can you believe that the guy is sincere when he said he is against
that something?

Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cychong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chi Yin R Chong)
Subject: Need the program for converting tiff file to gif file
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:51:50 GMT

Hi, every soc.culture.hongkong subscriber,

     I used a software called DeskScan II to run the HP scanner and I scanned 
some pictures which are saved as tiff files. I would like to see if anyone has 
a program which can convert tiff file into gif file so that not only I can
send these pictures to the ftp sites for all of you to see/watch but I can
also see it thru the workstations.

     Thanks a lot. Your help will be deeply appreciated.

Robert Chong
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: fung@hercules (.... B S ....)
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Reply-To: fung@hercules.uregina.ca (.... B S ....)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:25:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.062500.23074@CS.ORST.EDU> lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.221223.3616@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>>In <1992Aug18.032420.18886@CS.ORST.EDU>lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug13.125634.3609@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>>>>In <5537@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)suggested the way to curb premarrital sex.
>>>>
>>>>I fail his requirments but I shall flame him immediately anyway.
>>>>
>>>>His ideas are nothing new but rather actual practices in some cultures
>>>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>some time. He just have to take this sophomoric attitude that his
>>>>sarcasm is too sophisticated for the audience of soc.culture.hongkong
>>>>without first giving us warnings. We can do less with your pedantry.
>>>
>>>What cultures?
>>
>>What person are you asking?
>
>Hey, Man.  You said some cultures practice what Cheung said.  So I like
>to know what cultures.  :-)
>
>--Ben

I also want to know which cultures have those attitude. :->

--Lewis
From: H.Wang@bradford.ac.uk (H WANG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Need the program for converting tiff file to gif file
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:35:52 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90908648@ccw202

In article <1992Aug13.115150.2481@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cychong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chi Yin R Chong) writes:
>Hi, every soc.culture.hongkong subscriber,
>
>     I used a software called DeskScan II to run the HP scanner and I scanned 
>some pictures which are saved as tiff files. I would like to see if anyone has 
>a program which can convert tiff file into gif file so that not only I can
>send these pictures to the ftp sites for all of you to see/watch but I can
>also see it thru the workstations.
>
>     Thanks a lot. Your help will be deeply appreciated.
>
>Robert Chong

me too...
Thanks in advance.