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From: grs01153@runt.appstate.edu
Subject: Re: a question
Organization: Appalachian State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:01:35 GMT

Is it just me, or are Stephen's little asteriks before and after emphasized
words incredibly annoying? It is almost like he is insulting our intelligence,
that he is implying that we are incapable of deciding what words we should read
more emphatically than others.

Or maybe I am just inferrring that misateknly.....

Yeah, right, whatever....

So I will ask the question we are all thinking, Stephen, why are you so anal?
When was the last time you got laid? Wonder if there is a correltaion.....

Just a joke, not meant to offend.....(to quote Someone...)
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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:21:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <16APR199217432063@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>Well....I *could* buy you a book?????

"The Joy Of Soloing"? :)
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From: sowers@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: advice
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:32:19 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Hi netfolks. 

I met this wonderful person about two months ago on the system.  We have
the same values and goals in life (which is pretty neat to finally find
someone like that).  I have went out with this person twice now (its
difficult since we are in different states) and we both had a great time.  
The problem is that each of us is a little on the quiet side and I really
can't tell how she feels about me.

My question to you is this.  We both have finals coming up.  What would
be a good gift to send right before finals start for her that says that
says 'good luck' and that I am 'interested' but does not explicitely 
come right out and say it.  

Please email me your advice.  Thanx.

-John-
From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:47:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Apr14.024027.10332@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> hrtcu@usho52.hou281.chevron.com (R.T.Cutler) writes:

>For GOD's sake, consumate this.  DO IT!!!!  And then maybe all of
>us can get some sleep.

Why?  That'd take all the fun out of it! :)
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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: And Now for Something Apartly Similar...(kiss!)
Keywords: READ,KILL,READ,WALK THE DOG,READ,GRIT THY TEETH,READ...
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:42:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <15APR199208044578@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>Good comeback, Ed!  I'm impressed with your highly advanced vocabulary!!! :)

Thank you, thank you, thank you...no applause necessary, just throw $$$ --
I'll need it for the hospital...:)
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Ed and Teresa
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:28:34 GMT


Ed and Teresa flirt on the net.  Teresa finally calls Ed's bluff and
tells him to ask her out.  Ed wimps out.  Or is there something else
going on here?

RNA

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: More Ed and Teresa (was Re: Love Sucks.....)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:15:21 GMT


Teresa Kline writes:

>I don't buy it...I'm a "cheap" date.  

Would Ed know about that?  (Somehow, I doubt it . . . )

>And I want no comments on that from
>the peanut gallery.

Too late. :-)

     - Pat
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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:00:13 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: world,soc
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:

}rnjx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

}>The question is this.  Is it ever morally and/or ethically O.K. to actively
}>try to woo one member of an existing relationship from that relationship so
}>that you may start one with her/him?  Under what circumstances?  How about
}>pursuing someone who's engaged?  Where do you all draw the line?  If it isn't
}>O.K., would you still do it anyway?

}Under most circumstances, I see no problem whatsoever with it.  If their
}relationship is strong, then your efforts won't amount to a hill of beans
}anyway.  If your actions do break up the relationship, then it probably
}wasn't very strong to begin with.  

I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe that anyone really and truly feels
this way.  To me, this is like walking down the street, seeing a car with
the keys in it, and jumping in and driving it away.  You can rationalize
all you want that if the owner didn't want his car stolen, he shouldn't
have left the keys in it, but you still committed theft.  (And before I
get jumped on, I am not equating relationships with property ownership,
it's just the first analogy that popped to mind, ok?)

Or maybe a better analogy is that of banging on a window with a hammer.
You can say that if the glass is strong, then your efforts won't amount
to a hill of beans anyway, and if your actions break the glass then it
probably wasn't very strong to begin with.  But you can't get away from
the fact that if you had left the window alone, it would still be fine.

The point is that such is just rationalization.  Whatever the state of
an existing relationship, whether it be strong or weak, your efforts to
actively break it up introduce a new element.  And who are you to say
what would have happened if you'd stayed out?  Many relationships have
weathered shakey times and ended up stronger for it.  Your interference
could be the straw that breaks a camel's back that might very well have
otherwise recovered.

--James Preston

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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:54:19 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:

}I still can't believe that in todays society, men still view women
}as personal property.  Are we still hanging on to the CroMagnon
}mentality????  I know you so boldly stated that you are not comparing
}relationships with property ownership, but you did it twice.  A car
}and a window do not have the ability to think and choose for itself
}(as far as I know).  Women have free will, choice, and are capable of
}making decisions for themselves.  If a guy expresses an interest in
}dating them and they are already involved in a fulfilling relationship
}they can simply say "I'm flattered, but no thank you, I'm already 
}involved".  The relationship will not crumble just because I may have
}asked her out.  And visa versa.  Enough said.

You missed the point, guy.  As I've tried to make clear in a few other
postings, my feelings have nothing whatsoever to do with viewing women
as property.  The point is that a person ACTIVELY trying to mess up an
existing relationship is showing a lack of respect for the relationship
and for BOTH of the people in that relationship.  Asking someone out
when you don't know they are involved is quite all right.  Asking someone
out when you know that they are involved is disrespectful.  And it doesn't
matter whether the asker is a man or a woman, ok?  So get this "property"
bullshit out of the discussion.  The man doesn't own the woman and the
woman doesn't own the man, but if the have agreed to be in an exclusive
relationship with each other, than other men AND women ought to respect
that.

One last time:  It's a question of respect from the third party, not of 
ownership by either of the relationship parties.

--James Preston
From: isar@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A Question for Females
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:28:47 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

[BIn article <1992Apr12.055046.14392@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) writes:
> 
> 
> I breezed through some of the previous letters and well, this appears
> to be the best place to pose this question.  (Actually, Wolverine
> posted a letter related to this topic, although he's apparently 
> making some progress.)
> 
> Here's the situation:
> A male and female have been friends (not best friends, but good ones)
> and the male has definitely wanted to change the relationship.
> Not-so-cryptic messages were passed on to her, but she never acknowledged 
> them.  Well a short time has passed and her reason for not going out
> at the time was because its "too dangerous" for her to become involved
> with friends.  Now I never have been involved in a situation like this
> from her point of view and of course, I AM a guy, so it really makes
> no sense too me.  Even though she admits having a good time together
> and sharing a couple a private moments together (as friends), well...
> 
> On to my question.. I don't want any theories on why she doesn't want to
> get involved (I could think of a few dozen reasons better than "we're
> friends" and she's seeing someone else now anyway).  What I do want to
> know is - do women usually avoid becoming involved with friends? 
> From my naive nice-guy viewpoint, it makes more sense to go from 
> friends--> beyond than to   ??? -----> friends.  
> 
> I really need a few good answers to sort this out.

===========================================================================

   I'm sorry for being abrupt, but the answer to the question posed in the
last paragraph is an emphatic "No".

   Women who use that line are trying to convey (kindly) that they are not
interested in you as a romantic prospect.  If they were, they wouldnt let you
go for all the tea in China.  There might be some notable exceptions, but
I'd wager they are very rare.  Same goes for "I dont want to get involved
right NOW",  "I'm still getting over X" or "I'm afraid of baring my feelings".

  As a female who has felt obligated to utter those inanities a few times,
I'm sorry to say they dont mean much.  Thankfully I outgrew the need to
circumvent guilt, but there are a lot of girls out there who haven't.

  When you meet a girl/woman who is interested in you as a romantic partner,
believe me, you'll get hints from her too....:)

  Good luck,

I.
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: crerar@uunet.uu.net (Andy Crerar)
Subject: Re: Is this a common thing?
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:50:16 GMT

In article <92104.092434RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu> RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
******Background deleted in the interest of bandwidth*****
>She was afraid that, IF she got pregnant, I would help out financially,
>whatever she decided to do, but the relationship would basically be over.
>She says that most of the guys she knows feel this way.
>I can't understand this attitude, in anybody.
>I told her that "If I love you enough to make love to you, my feelings aren't
>going to change because of a pregnancy. Of course I would help out financially,
>it's as much my responsibility as yours, but I wouldn't otherwise abandon
>you because of a problem like that."
>
>Ladies, is this a common worry?
>Guys, do you feel the way I do, or the other way around?
>I just want some answers....
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Wow, this one's tough.  The fact is that in many cases these days, people
who are having sex are not really committed to one another in any other
way.  The responsibility for a child, both financial and emotional rests
with *both* parents equally.  Many people ignore this in the height of 
passion.  It is easy enough to say, "I won't have sex with anyone with 
whom I am unwilling to have and raise a child," but that is not really 
how life works.  Things don't work out the way we expect.  Still, it *is*
possible to say, and keep a promise to yourself not to have sex with any-
one you don't care enough about to take appropriate precautions with.  I,
too, have been in a situation like this, which turned out to be a false 
alarm, and I admit being mighty scared of the consequences.  But I was 
willing to stand by my lover no matter what her choices (and to help her 
make those choices), no matter what happened.

The ultimate lesson is: Be Careful (Care being the important word here.)
It may not be very romantic, but remember that any sexual encounter may 
result in a child being born.  (Kinda like sliding into the driver's seat
of a car and saying, "This machine has killed more people than any other
single device in human history.")

Rambles from The Yet Otherwise Untitled Neo-Guru
Andy
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:15:53 GMT

In article <89El02o5c9Kk00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:

>You missed the point, guy.  As I've tried to make clear in a few other
>postings, my feelings have nothing whatsoever to do with viewing women
>as property.  The point is that a person ACTIVELY trying to mess up an
>existing relationship is showing a lack of respect for the relationship
>and for BOTH of the people in that relationship.  Asking someone out
>when you don't know they are involved is quite all right.  Asking someone
>out when you know that they are involved is disrespectful.  And it doesn't
>matter whether the asker is a man or a woman, ok?  So get this "property"
>bullshit out of the discussion.  The man doesn't own the woman and the
>woman doesn't own the man, but if the have agreed to be in an exclusive
>relationship with each other, than other men AND women ought to respect
>that.
>
>One last time:  It's a question of respect from the third party, not of 
>ownership by either of the relationship parties.
>
>--James Preston

This is beginning to become a little confusing.  There are a multitude of
points being expressed here. Some are talking about the other guy
"stealing the girl away simply by walking up to her and saying "I want
you".  That''s bull.  You are talking about "actively" trying to mess
up a relationship.  I have never said that I would "actively" try to mess
up a relationship. I think someone who actively tries to mess up a
relationship (especially one he knows is secure) is simply a 
moron.

Originally, someone said that if someone were to "express" an interest
in a girl who might already be involved (whether he knows this fact or
not), that the guy is directly responsible for destroying the 
relationship.  I simply........disagree.
I just do not feel that women are soooo easily persuaded to leave a
relationship just because some guy walks up to them and says he would
like to date her.  (although my ego would love to believe this.)

					Steve
From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa  (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:36:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Apr11.093743.10544@willamette.edu> ppinkard@willamette.edu (Patrice Pinkard) writes:

>I think we should let Ed & Teresa work it out between the two of them.  What
>do you think?  It doesn't REALLY involve anyone other than E & T. 

Yeah, but it's not as much fun that way :)
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date: 10 Apr 1992 08:10 EST  

In article <ku9rcsINNfod@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes...
>In article <1992Apr9.022834.25112@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
> 
>>Ed and Teresa flirt on the net.  Teresa finally calls Ed's bluff and
>>tells him to ask her out.  Ed wimps out.  Or is there something else
>>going on here?
> 
>She did?  When?  Where?

Just the other day.  I asked you.  And you said, and I quote "Huh?  What?" 
and then mumbled some computer jibberish.  I've never been so offended in...
well, I guess I have at that.

> 
>And yes, there IS "something else" going on here...:)

What???  :(

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: csuat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Pete "Ganders" Favelle)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: love songs
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:32:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Originator: csuat@lily


on 15 Apr 92 14:32:15 GMT,
ronan@codon3 (Karen Ronan;161 GPBB;x2-0884) said:
> Haywire writes:
>>Why is it when your trying to heal a broken heart by listening to the radio
>>all you hear on the radio is love songs...???????!!!!!!!!!
>>Its really annoying....

It's cos when you're trying to heal that heart, the only songs you ever really
stop and listen to are the ones that strike a chord in you, and remind you of
how you're feeling - love songs... 

> Because love songs sell products

Well, that too... :-)

Ganders

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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.15APR199212144202
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <kun9q4INN7kp@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes...
>In article <1992Apr14.024027.10332@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> hrtcu@usho52.hou281.chevron.com (R.T.Cutler) writes:
> 
>>For GOD's sake, consumate this.  DO IT!!!!  And then maybe all of
>>us can get some sleep.
> 
>Why?  That'd take all the fun out of it! :)

Ed's right ... 30-45 seconds of passion and it's all over. :-)

Better to stretch the anticipation out over, say, 2-3 years. 

*NOT* !

C'mon, Ed, make the move ! I gotta get some work done over here. :-) :-)

-- Stephen 

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From: cpearson@ducvax.auburn.edu (MISTYEYES)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic music list
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:52:00 GMT
Organization: Auburn University--Auburn, AL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 30

In article <CS132093.92Apr16153401@cslab1f.cs.brown.edu>, cs132093@cs.brown.edu (Mark "?" Prince) writes...
>chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu) writes:
>?> sean.casey@EMCB.CC.UTAH.EDU (SEAN THOMAS CASEY) writes:
>?> >	Okay, folks, here's a new concept for this net.  I've read a lot of 
>?> >complaints about how this has turned into a "bitch.net" about how men are 
>?> >assholes and women are bitches and nobody can get along with anyone and no 
>?> >one can get anyone else to be interested in them . . . . and this is 
>?> >supposed to be a net about romance.
>?>     "Romance is Hell"	- Matt Groening (just kidding)
> 
>	I love that comic strip!
> 
>But about songs, more really good ones are:
> 
>The Commitments:
>	Try A Little Tenderness (especially)
>	...anything else by them
> 
>Les Miserables:
>	(I almost cry when I hear some of these songs.)
>	On My Own (esp)
>	(Shoot, can't think of the name of the other...first line
>	which comes to mind is:
> 
>	Fantine sings:  "He took my youth in his stride...
>			 he filled my days with endless wonder.
>			"Still I dream he comes to me..."  
> 
its "The Dream I Dream" :)_
Colleen
From:  (Arielle)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: *smile*
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:58:13 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


Hello, dears. ;)

	I'm rather new at this and have just been reading through
the previous zillion posts.  This is a wonderful idea, and a great
support group.  A huge, warm hug to each and every one of you.
	
	What love songs, poems, quotes, stories, faerie tales, etc.
do you think best epitomize real love?  As in forever-love?  I like
REM's "You Are the Everything."

	...................

	i'm in this kitchen
	everything is beautiful, and she is so beautiful, she is so young and old
	i look at her, and i see the beauty of the light of music
	the voices talking somewhere in the house, late spring
	and you're drifting off to sleep with your teeth in your mouth
	you are here with me
	you are here with me
	you have been here, and you are everything....

	**

	Oh, did anyone else love "Beauty and the Beast"?  *wistful smile*
For those of you who are afraid you're nerds doomed to being single forever,
please take my word for it.. there's no such thing as a nerd in real life.
Not really.  That's a stereotype.  If you are a man, if you are a woman,
you are completely capable of giving and receiving love.  And soon enough,
some one will be lucky enough to realize it.  It's only a matter of reaching
out and letting go a little of your fears.  Just a little.  There's a whole
world of people out there who want to love you just as much as you want to
love them.  You're not alone.. never alone.. we're with you.

							@}-`,-----
							  Arielle 
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