From: waf9851@zeus.tamu.edu (FULLER, WALTER ANDREW III)
Subject: Re: Don't just whine about media bias. Do something!
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.162127.25163@spectrum.xerox.com>, rgoers@gumdrop.Xerox.COM (Ron Goers) writes...
>That's simply not true.  Abortion is the un-natural termination of a natural
>body process.  To say that abortion is safer than birth is repeating something
>that someone taught us somewhere along the way which is unsubstantiated and
>un-true.  Abortion is not, nor has it ever been, safer than giving birth.

Uh-uh, big boy! Better do your homework on this before running your mouth!

>I have to ask where she got her information.  If it was from PP, then I can
>assure you that she got one side of the story ONLY.  If she visited a Crisis
>Pregnancy Center, then you are probobly correct in saying she was well 
>informed.

How can you "assure" ? Bub, you know nothing about Planned Parenthood if
you think that the information they give out is anything less than full pro-
fessional information.

>Why is PP willing to give up hundreds of thousands of dollars because
>they don't want to follow the recent 'gag order' put into effect?  Could it be
>that they stand to lose less money by ignoring it, than by following it? 

If you're trying to insinuate that Planned Parenthood somehow "makes" money
from providing abortion services, you're sadly mistaken. I served on the
board of directors of a large metropolitan Planned Parenthood, and I know for
a FACT that we lost money -- tons of it -- through abortion services. This is
true for all Planned Parenthood abortion clinics because so many "free
gratis" abortions are done. Besides, in case you never noticed, Planned
Parenthood is a non-profit entity.

>take it, having had ALL the information at the start.  Now, I am not saying that
>your friend WAS NOT informed at all, however, MANY counseling centers which
>openly admit to being pro-abortion oriented, DO NOT tell the full story to 
>these scared girls when they come in.  The reason?  $$$  So, your friend may

I don't know what you're smoking, but it's working!

>Beyond being pro-life, I feel strongly that Informed Concent laws would in them-
>selves eliminate the demand for abortion.  (Informed Consent is where doctors
>would be required to inform their patients on all aspects of abortion.  This 
>would include explicit information on procedures, alternatives, etc.)  The fact
>that this DOES NOT happen today should be enough to make one suspicious of their
>current motivations and practices.  Therefor, if you were to ask me if I would
>prefer No Abortion over Informed Consent, I would rather women be informed, and
>feel that in itself would be enough to eliminate the demand for abortion.

Informed consent most certainly does take place! You don't fool many
people. The "informed consent" you speak of is nothing more than emotional
terrorism designed to sicken and frighten rather than inform. In fact, I'd
bet that if a particular "informed consent" did not result in the female
deciding not to have an abortion, you'd claim it was not true informed
consent! 

You and your ilk are nothing more than "God Squad" wannabees.


Walter Fuller
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