HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: seltzer@sda.com (Wayne Seltzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Exabyte EXB-8500 causing system to hang
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:32:40 GMT

Occasionally, our system hangs when dumping to the Exabyte.
Need to L1-A to reboot.

We get the following console message:

st1:    Error for command 'write', Error Level:'Fatal'
         Block: 16       File Number: 0
         Sense Key: Media Error
         Vendor (Exabyte 8mm Helical Scan) Unique Error Code: 0x3

So far, this only seems to happen when dumping and in single user mode,
but, statistically, that is 90% of our use of the drive.

Configuration:
SunOS 4.1.1, SPARC 2
Exabyte EXB-8500  [I don't know the firmware or ROM level; I need
                   to open the box and take a look]

Seems to me that it could be one (or a combination) of several problems:

Exabyte's problem - the drive is hanging the SCSI bus
SunOS problem - the st device driver is not dealing with the error
                correctly.  If it's still waiting for the device to
                write the last block, the driver should at least timeout.
SunOS problem - the hardware has indeed hung the SCSI bus, but the SunOS SCSI
                driver hasn't detected it.
dump problem  - dump doesn't handle errors from write() correctly.
                (This seems less likely, since dump clearly handles
                 other kinds of write errors)

Feedback from support organizations so far ---
Sun - "It's not a Sun tape drive; we don't support it.
       The drives that Sun buys from Exabyte are "different"
       I can't tell you how they'er different.  Contact your vendor" 
Exabyte - "We can give you a firmware upgrade via tape.  Easy to
           install.  Don't know if it will solve your problem."

R-SQUARED - No response yet.  Support seems to understaffed this week,
            like everywhere else...


I'm not pleased with Sun's response.  
Even if the non-Sun hardware is totally screwed up, SunOS
ought not hang.
Makes me wonder why we spend
so much money on Sun support contracts.

So...
Have you experienced such a problem?
(I mean, with the EXB-500 and system
hangs -- not mediocre support from Sun.  I *know* your answer to that question.)

Thanks!

--
Wayne Seltzer                                  seltzer@sda.com
Software Design & Analysis, Inc.               +1 (303) 444-9100
1113 Spruce St, Suite 500, Boulder, CO 80302
From: anselmo@nic.near.net (Ed Anselmo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun's GUI and OS mistakes (was Re: LX and SUNOS 4.x)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 13:56:08 -0500
Organization: NEARnet, Cambridge, MA
	<16017@auspex-gw.auspex.com> <1992Dec21.184048.8933@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>
	<16031@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.near.net
In-reply-to: guy@Auspex.COM's message of 22 Dec 92 04:40:42 GMT


>>Tried this for a while, the biggest problem was dismissing popups (which of
>>course came up without pins) without killing the primary application. This 
>>could just have been my ignorance and might have been avoidable with some
>>option in .twmrc, but there were other problems with the appearance and 
>>behavior of the windows etc.

> I think there is a way of getting ".twmrc" to dismiss popups; you might
> check out the "comp.windows.open-look" FAQ - I think you bind something
> to "f.delete" and use that to dismiss the popup.  Dunno about the other
> problems you mention, as I don't have enough details....

Use f.delete to dismiss popups, f.destroy kills the parent
application.  I bind a menu to the left side icon of the twm title
bar:

LeftTitleButton "menu12" = f.menu "windowmenu"  # add a menu to each window
menu "windowmenu"
{
"Iconify"               f.iconify
"RaiseLower"            f.raiselower
"Refresh"               f.winrefresh
"Focus"                 f.focus
""                      f.nop
"Kill"                  f.menu "kill"
}

menu "kill"
{
    "Kill Window"       f.destroy
    "Send Delete"       f.delete
}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: mwette@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Matt Wette)
Subject: 3/60 problems: SCSI cable / tape drive ?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:15:20 GMT

I have a 3/60 with a shoebox.  I was having major problems with
disk writes and finally figured that the SCSI cable was bad.
So I replace it with a ten-foot ribbon cable with an IDC DB-50 
connector at each end -- the disk works great! My problem now is
that I can't read or write to the SCSI tape.  Anybody got a clue
what the problem is -- cable too long, wrong type, bad connection,
bad tape drive, ...?

Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed)
Subject: Re: SPARCstation IPC 4 Mb SIMMs - what kind are they?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: IPC
Reply-To: isolar!earle@elroy.JPL.NASA.GOV
Organization: Gainfully unemployed
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:14:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.101204.12723@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> I wrote:
>If I want to get some 4 Mbyte SIMMs for my SPARCstation-1 clone which has a
>motherboard that is seemingly much like an IPC's, what kind do I have to get?
>
>Specifically, are they
>
>- 4x9?		(I assume so; as opposed to 4x8)
>- 70ns?		(Faster, same speed or slower?)
>- 36 pin?	(Or 32 pin or ?? pin?)
>- 9 chip or 3?	(I assume 9 chip)

Thanks to Jim Thompson et al. who pointed out that they are Mitsubishi SIMMs.
They're 4Mbx9, 80 ns, 30 pin, 9 chip SIMMs.

Let me followup my own article with another question: in "Computer Shopper", I
see an ad from Worldwide Technologies in Philadelphia.  On one page is a line
that says

	SIMM-SIPP MODULES

	4MB X 9-80NS SIMM-PC	$108
	4MB X 9-70NS SIMM	$110
	4MB X 9-60NS SIMM	$118
	...

(Not sure why the first line says "SIMM-PC" and the others don't?)  From what
I've been told, it seems like the SIMMs on the first line would work fine.

OK, so why then do they have an ad on the opposite page that says

	SPARCstation IPC
	4MB kit X104Y		$164
	16MB kit X116Y		$608
	...
	SPARCstation 1, 3/60, 3/80, 4/40, 4/60, 4/65
	4MB kit X104C,G,H,Y	$164
	16MB kit X116H,Y,W	$608

So I can buy 4 generic "4MB X 9-80NS SIMM-PC" modules for $432, or get taken to
the cleaners for another $176 the other way!  Are they blowing smoke here?!?

On the other note:

>Another question; this motherboard supplies two serial ports via 8-pin DIN
>connectors instead of standard 25-pin DB connectors.  I bought a cable at a
>Mac dealer that has the right connectors, i.e. male DIN to male DB-25, and it
>purports to "support hardware flow control", but when I hook it up to my
>Telebit, the WorldBlazer never sees DTR.

Several people told me that pin 1 on the mini-DIN puts out DTR.  Now if I
could figure out for the life of me why this pin doesn't seem to be connected
to pin 20 on the DB-25 end ... *sigh*

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: tommy@boole.att.com
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Reply-To: tommy@boole.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:23:06 GMT
Originator: tommy@hoodlum

(anonymous@heather.apple.com) writes:

$ [...]
$ But I'm sorry, as someone who has been an admin for a long time, SVR4 does 
$ NOT make my job easier.  I and many other people have been telling Sun this 
$ for several years.  However, AT&T owning 20% of Sun stock seems to carry a 
$ lot more weight with SunSoft than customers who are perfectly willing to buy 
$ hardware from other vendors.

When AT&T bought NCR, it divested its stock in Sun to avoid conflict of
interest.  Although the decision for Sun to go to SVR4 preceded the NCR
buyout.
-- 
Tom Reingold
AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:48:10 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Unbundling commonly used bsd-isms like rsh, rlogin, rcp, etcetera

Who's unbundled that?  (No, making it part of an optionally-installable
package isn't "unbundling".)  I've used "rcp" on the Solaris 2.x machine
we have here, and no, we didn't buy some add-on product from Sun to get
it....

>Adding RFS support is not an improvement,

"Adding RFS support" is definitely not an improvement of SunOS 5.x over
SunOS 4.x... 

...because SunOS 4.1[.x] already *had* RFS support.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:19:04 GMT

In <1928@niktow.canisius.edu> pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov) writes:

>In article <C03HLL.41z@fsg.com>, msf@fsg.com (Michael S. Fischbein) writes:
>> 
>> Contrast this with the complete lack of committment on their
>> competitor's parts in developing OSF/1 shortly thereafter.  Neither IBM
>> nor DEC, nor any of the other OSF players ever actually committed to
>> *using* OSF/1 on their machines. .... 
>> 
>  That will be very unexpected news to the several hundred software vendors
>  porting applications to DEC Alpha OSF/1 systems .....

Why is it that DEC (at least locally) refuses to give a release date
for OSF on Alpha then?  At this point, only VMS is supposed to be
available on Alpha.  From what I understand, OSF will be available
93Q3, but what about the old Ultrix vendors who are hosed?  Sounds
like the same complaint that's being lodged against sun.

-- 
Ken Bibb                "he heard the snow falling faintly through the
kbibb@qualcomm.com	 universe and faintly falling, like the descent of
jester@crash.cts.com     their last end, upon all the living and the dead."
				--"The Dead", James Joyce

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:52:09 GMT

In <1992Dec21.152516.9202@sdc.com> emike@sdc.com (E. Mike Durbin) writes:
>    >Now, Sun is abandoning SunOS!!!
>No they are not.  I'm happily running SunOS 5.1 now.
>THEY ARE ABANDONDING A *HEAVILY* modified version of 4.2BSD

Which is what SunOS has come to mean.

>for a much more open, much more standard BSD/SYSV merged OS.

Right.  I'll believe that it actually manages to merge the two
when I see Solaris 2.1 working.  Not that I've seen it broken, but
after all the brouhaha over 2.0 and my experience with AT&T's crap
SVR4 (in which very few of the BSD utilities work) I'm pretty skeptical.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                           don't feed the creepsters
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
Subject: Re: LX and SUNOS 4.x - how ?
Keywords: Enterprising opportunity
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:07:06 GMT

paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham) writes:
>Sun spent a lot of time encouraging software vendors to port to UNIX in the
>first place. Did IBM or DEC? Not until very recently. Did HP? Only when the
>software didn't compete with it's own products. These software vendors feel
>that they have an investment in Sun for making this UNIX software market
>possible. Sun is the vendor that said all along "Standards, standards,
>standards!"

>I think that the move to Solaris 2 will not be as bad as everyone thinks.

Hmm. Most of my favorite programs are gone or on a list 'to be phased out'.
And then, there is our source tree /usr/src/local, worth about 100MB of
sources, that I need to port. Will take me *months*  to port (things like elm
might be easy to port, but how about bootpd, proxyarpd, or tcpdump?).

I never thought I would hate to see new boxes drive into our labs :-(.

Geert Jan
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SBUS&cards specifications?
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:07:38 GMT
Organization: cic

koch@eis.cs.tu-bs.de (Andreas Koch) writes:

>Where can I get the information needed to develop 
>extension cards & drivers for SUN4 workstations?

Assuming you mean *SBus* based machines, get the SBus
Developer's Kit II Plus from SunExpress (0130/81 61 91).
Order code is SBUS-DEV-KIT-II+, cost is DM 165.-,
discount category B.

If you are referring to VMEbus machines, get the
VMEbus standard, and look into the regular "Writing
Device Drivers" manual.

In both cases, get a prototyping board. (No, I don't
know sources for these offhand. Dawn would be a good guess.)
-- 
| ...!unido!ukw!lupe  (German EUNet, "bang")     |  Disclaimer:            |
| lupe@ukw.UUCP       (German EUNet, domain)     |  This is an unofficial  |
| suninfo!alanya!lupe (Sun Germany)              |  opinion of Christoph & |
| Res non sunt complicanda praeter necessitatem. |  Imschweiler Consulting |
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6549 comp.sys.sun.admin:9803
From: belonis@dirac.phys.washington.edu (Jim Belonis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: need format.dat entry for Seagate Elite II 2.5 gig disk
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:13:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: dirac.phys.washington.edu
Keywords: disk seagate sun format.dat

I need a /etc/format.dat entry for a Seagate Elite II 2.5 gigabyte disk.

Rsquared (our vendor) has told us
DATA Cyl = 2624
Alt Cyl = 2
# of heads = 19
sec/track = 83
RPM = 5400
Total Blocks = 4138048

But I still need the 'bpt' whatever that is, and the ncyl & pcyl which are
presumably related to the DATA Cyl somehow.

I have a format.dat posted in September (the last time I remember it being
posted) but it doesn't have this disk.  So maybe the canonical format.dat
should be re-posted.

Thanks for any help,

--
J.James(Jim)Belonis II, U of Washington Physics Computer Cost Center Manager
belonis@dirac.phys.washington.edu  Internet    Physics Hall FM-15
BELONIS@UWAPHAST BITNET       noon to midnite  U of W, Seattle, WA 98195
24683::PHAST::BELONIS SPAN,HEPNET  7 days      room 32a   (206) 685-8695
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: jgibson@ucs.indiana.edu (JOHN COOPER GIBSON)
Subject: Help!!! (Looking for a speaker jack)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:03:10 GMT

I saw a note posted not too long ago about audio ports.
I'm looking for a jack/cable converter from an 8 pin connector
that appears on the back of sparc stations across the nation, to a
1/8 inch jeck that appears on headphones/desktop computer speakers/etc 
that also appear across the nation.
However, these lovely little devices do NOT occur accross the nation.
WHERE CAN I FIND ONE?!??!  I want to hook up a set of speakers to a 
sparc for a multimedia project I'm working on, and I need one.
I can ever splice the cables if I can find the plug. I just can't find the 
plug.
Please help me.

					-John Gibson
					 jgibson@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: randyb@boi.hp.com (randy barbour)
Subject: Disk Drive Benchmark Testing !!!
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:57:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


Topic: Disk Drive Benchmark Testing

 Is anyone aware of a "unix" based benchmark test,( preferably used
by SUN, but doesn't have to be ) used to evaluate disk drives?
Hopefully it will contain some recognizable performance marks that
are somewhat industry standard. It could be based on any "shell" and
could be a script or program. It doesn't matter, I'm just out for any
information I can find, all feedback welcome.


                                   Thank you,

                                   randyb@boi.hp.com
From: ssurgui@ucdacm.denver.colorado.edu (Scott Surguine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Memory Bank Configuration on :  SS2, IPX, IPC
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:17:28 GMT


Working from memeory here ( No Pun Intended ) the banks on SS1+'s are as  
follows:
 _______     _______
|	|   |       | 
|   1	|   |	3   |
|	|   |	    |
|_______|   |_______|

 _______     _______
|	|   |       |
|   2	|   |   4   | 
|   	|   | 	    | 
|_______|   |_______| 

What I am attempting to diagram is the fact that I fill in bank 1 first,
bank 2 second, etc...

Although I have upgraded SS2's : For the life of me I can't remember how  
the banks work:

Is it something like:

    sim#1       sim#2
    sim#3       sim#4
    sim#5       sim#6
    sim#7       sim#8 ....

Also I would like to know if SS1's are the same as SS1+'s: And how IPX's  
and IPC's are laid out!


Any information or advice as to where to locate such info is greatly 
appreciated!!!

--Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.221627.20632@midway.uchicago.edu> epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin) writes:


   Why is Sun losing touch with their customer base?  First, they
   use and continue to use a ridiculous, ugly windowing manager (olwm) despite
   the fact that a majority of their users use mwm.  

I don't think you can back that up.

   Now, Sun is abandoning SunOS!!!  The question IS NOT why don't vendors
   port their apps but WHY can't I run my old apps on new, faster hardware?

it depends on what your apps are and if they want to take advantage
of multiple threads/

   Sun is supposed to be custoemer responsive and built its successes on 
   meeting user's needs where traditional, large computer makers used
   proprietary software and OS's.  Now, they're telling everyone to
   abandon their old knowledge and apps for a new OS.  What does Solaris 
   incorporate that they could not put into SunOS???  Buying old hardware
   to support an old OS is not an option in my opinion.  They should not
   have caused such confusion in the first place.  

   If this is the direction that Sun is taking, then they will definitely 
   alienate people who bought their machines.  Sun is no better and no
   worse than other vendors who say, "do what we tell you to do when we
   tell you to do it.  if you don't listen to us, we won't supprt your old
   os forever and you won't be able to run our newest and fastest machines"

In my opinion they are much better than other vendors.

   This is the straw which will cause me to stop being Suns and start
   purchasing new machines which seem more customer-oriented.  I 
   have been really impressed with the way DEC is remanaging their
   business and producing fast machines (i.e. Alpha).  I hate the
   fact that our group works on VAXs, MIPs machines, and SUNs.  However,
   with this ultimatum by Sun, I will not continue to purchase their
   machines.

an ultimatum, huh


Maybe you should include your full name the next time so people won't
think you are intentionally spreading propaganda because you like DEC.
How long has the Alpha been running out in the real world?  What's the
installed base?  How reliable are these workstations?
--


Matt Landrum, CAD Engineer      | e-mail: mdl@cypress.com
Cypress Southeast Design Center | office: (601) 324-4609, FAX - 4614
1 Research Blvd, Suite 200      | "You can get what you want if you
Starkville, MS  39759           | know how to find it." -- Tower of Power
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: How does one boot a Sun 2 without a video card?
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:37:37 GMT
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
Reply-To: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

In <1992Dec22.095349.10229@wavehh.hanse.de> cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) writes:

>rflukes@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard F. Lukes) writes:


>>I am trying to boot a Sun 2 (68010) system which has no video
>>subsystem.  I would like to attach a VT100 to one of the CPU's
>>serial lines and use that as a console.  How do I go about doing
>>this?  Do I need special boot PROM's?  (I have both versions of the
>>Sun 2 CPU board.)

>No problem at all. If no video card is detected, your SUN will use any
>terminal attached to serial A.
>You should unplug the SUN's keyboard, too.

Small correction - it will use ttya if it doesn't detect a KEYBOARD.
You don't need to pull the video card.  Just unplug the keyboard.
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: trix@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (t.roger.kiang)
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:38:58 GMT

>Not "back". AT&T sold at the NYSE. Made the stock fall like
>a leaden duck.
>-- 
>| ...!unido!ukw!lupe  (German EUNet, "bang")     |  Disclaimer:            |
>| lupe@ukw.UUCP       (German EUNet, domain)     |  This is an unofficial  |
>| suninfo!alanya!lupe (Sun Germany)              |  opinion of Christoph & |
>| Res non sunt complicanda praeter necessitatem. |  Imschweiler Consulting
>|

Just to keep the record straight, AT&T sold it to Soloman Brothers.
Soloman Brothers had to dump in the market because their chief stock
trader who made the deal got in trouble and needed to raise cash.
This was reported extensively on The Wall Street Journal earlier
this year, I believe in February.  The bottome line is AT&T made money
on their investment, but Soloman Brothers lost.

Roger Kiang

Obviously, whatever I said here does not reflect the views
of my employer - AT&T.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6531 comp.periphs.printers:3742
From: rob@RjL.com (Rob Liebschutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Sparcprinter paper handling ability
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:08:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Organization: RjL Systems


Does the SparcPrinter have a manual paper feed? Can it reliable feed
envelopes and special forms such as labels, checks or heavy stock?


Rob Liebschutz, rob@rjl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Zannos Iannis)
Subject: Sparc10: DAT, hifi sound recording HELP PLEASE
Organization: RCAST, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:09:41 GMT



Sparc10 is supposed to be capable of 16 bit (Stereo?) sound.  But the AD-DA
converter provided by the vendor is very noisy.  I cannot think of using it
for recording from sources such as CD, or for making tape recordings of music
synthesized by such programs as Csound.  

Can anyone give advice on how to record in high fidelity to and from the
Sparc10?  Is there a way of writing directly sound (music) into audio DAT
tape?  Can one copy tracks of a regular audio CD from CD-ROM onto the hard
disc as audio files?  

Thank you. 

Ioannis Zannos

Tokyo University, RCAST, Ohsuga Laboratory
4-6-1 Komaba, Meguro-Ku,
Tokyo 153, Japan

e-mail: iani@ohsuga.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Tel (Lab)		+813 34814486

Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6462 comp.sys.sun.wanted:2063
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: <none>
From: c60216@number6.aedc (Allen Buck)
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:55:21 -0600
Reply-To: buck@aedc-vax.af.mil
Distribution: world
Organization: OAO @ Arnold AFB

We have a number of Sun Sparcstation 2s ( SunOS 4.1.1 ) from a now defunct
govt. contract.  A number of them are intended to provide single user graphics
capability to members of our cfd groups.  To achieve this they were purchased
with gs ( versus gx ) graphics.  Those groups have decided for consistency
reasons to use X11R5.

* The problem is that X11R5 ( patch level 19 ) runs on the gx but not the gs boards.

Details about error messages will be forthcoming if necessary.

Any help, either a fix or lead to one, would be appreciated.

-- 
           Allen Buck                                            
 Address:  MS 120, Arnold AFB, TN 37389                          
 Phone:    (615) 454-4099                                        
 Internet: buck@aedc-vax.af.mil                                  
 Local:    c60216@number6                                        
   Never trust anyone who can only spell a word one way. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware