HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: How do I access a certain newsgroup?
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:29:45 GMT

slgmj@cc.usu.edu publicly declared:
>Help.   I'm a new user and new to the state. (Utah) When I first entered NEWS,
>I recieved a tremendous list of Newsgroups. When it finished scrolling, my list
>of newsgroups to choose from had narrowed to about 10.  I was wondering how I
>go about accessing a newsgroup?  (Specifically "Alt.bbs.lists")

Hi there!  And welcome to the net!  Glad to have you aboard.

First and foremost, in order to answer your question we need to know
what software you're using to read the news.  There are about a
bazillion different programs that read news, and they all work
differently.  Also, it'd be nice to know what kind of machine (Unix,
VAX, MS-DOS, etc.) you're using, especially if you're using some
obscure news software no one's ever heard of before.

What probably happened is this:  Your site gets a huge number of
newsgroups.  (And believe me, there is a *HUGE* number available on the
net!)  That's what you saw scroll by when you first ran your
newsreader.  To avoid information overload though, your site only
initially subscribes you to 10 or so groups.  Probably a good practice
on their part.

If you're using 'rn', 'rrn', or 'trn' to read the news, you can
subscribe to the other groups simply by typing "g name.of.group" at the
"read now?" prompt.  To get to "alt.bbs.lists" you'd type "g alt.bbs.lists".
If you're using some other newsreader I can't help you.

There's a *LOT* you need to know to get along here.  Where can you go
for more information?  The very first thing you should do is to talk to
your system administrator or other users at your site!  They should be
able to help you with 99% of your problems, or at least point you to
the correct books or manuals to read.  Second, is get aquainted with
the online help.  On unix systems this is the "man" command; on VM/CMS
it's "help".  Third, look through the newsgroup
news.announce.newusers.  This is where all the new user FAQ (Frequently
Asked Questions) lists are maintained.

It's good form to make good use of these things before you post a
question to this group.  (Note that very few people seem to do that,
however.)  ESPECIALLY talk to your sysadmin and the users at your
site.  Betcha they know exactly what you need.  If you can't find the
answer after an honest try, then post here.  Please include everything
relevant to your situation; ie., what news software you're using, what
operating system, etc.  Be prepared to get flamed by someone saying,
"You idiot!  That's in such-and-such a FAQ in some.obscure.group!"
Ignore them.

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From: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen) 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Help needed with mirrors
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen) 




I frequently see a message from Timo Salmi in this newsgroup
describing a file of frequently asked questions named
TSFAQ30.ZIP.  It usually ends with:

> "If you do not know how to go about getting this material, users
> are welcome to email me for the prerecorded garbo.uwasa.fi
> instructions (long, circa 29Kb).  North American users are
> referred to the Garbo mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Australian
> users are referred to the......"

I am working with a MS-DOS PC Clone and I do not have direct
access to the Internet, which I understand is required to FTP
something. I have successfully had things "sent" to me by
"requesting" them via E-Mail (some form of automated system I
don't fully understand yet), but have been unable to do anything
with the Garbo Mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  In fact, what I
usually get when attempting to send mail requestiong an archive
from there is something indicating that the addressee cannot be
found.  For example, I sent:

--------
>To: garbo@wuarchive.wustl.edu
>
>send help
---------

And got back:

------------
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 09:01:02 -0700
>From: fernwood!MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
>Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
>To: spacebbs!ted.jensen
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>While talking to wuarchive.wustl.edu:
>>>> RCPT To:<garbo@wuarchive.wustl.edu>
><<< 550 <garbo@wuarchive.wustl.edu>... User unknown
>550 garbo@wuarchive.wustl.edu... User unknown
>
>   ----- Recipients of this delivery -----
>garbo@wuarchive.wustl.edu (bounced)
>
>   ----- Unsent message follows -----
--------------  etc.

I obviously do not understand Prof. Salmi's message, archives,
mirrors, or for that matter addresses.  Can anyone straighten me
out?

Thanks in advance!  Ted Jensen   Redwood City, Calif.


 * SLMR 2.1a *
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: InterNet Information (Books)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:39:02 GMT
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

In <1992Oct5.011136.36@smop.fr.mugnet.org> tomazi@smop.fr.mugnet.org (Georges A. Tomazi) writes:

>ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez) writes:

>>Hello, I'm pretty new to the InterNet and UseNet Newsgroup, anyway I will
>>like to know if there are any Books, basic on the InterNet, and if any a
>>magazine thats all about Internet, also a or a few mailing list that
>>carrys info on Internet, Thanks...

>You can read "Internetworking with TCP/IP - Principles, Protocols, and
>Architecture" by Douglas Comer (Prentice Hall).

If you're primarily interested in using the various services available
on the Internet, I'd highly recommend the new O'reilly book, 
called - er - well, gee, it's on my desk at work.  It's something
like The Whole Internet Guide.  Anyway, the Whole Internet something
or another.  It's only been out for about 2 weeks, so it may not be
in all the stores yet.


>-- 
>+------------------+-------------------------------------+--------------------+
>|  Georges Tomazi  | Internet: tomazi@smop.in.sub.org    |       Voice:       |
>|  Paris / France  |           tomazi@smop.fr.frmug.org  | (33-1) 45-06-70-52 |
>+------------------+-------------------------------------+--------------------+
>						and God created Unix ...
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov
From: f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Gellis)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Too much ftp?
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:42:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

A quick question.  I have heard that if too many files are ftp'd from a
site it can cause problems for that archive.  I suppose these are things
like increased operations costs and slowing down communications because
there is so much data traffic, although I admit I don't know and would 
be interested in finding out.

My question is this.  If this is a problem, I don't want all these archives
with lots of good software getting shut down.  Does anyone know of a good
guideline for maximum ftp downloads (per person per day) so I can do my
part to not be a hog?  100 Kb/day?  1 Meg/day?  

Thanks in advance.

Mark
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: De-BINHEXing on Mac/the .cpt extension
Originator: erodrigu@tolten
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:14:35 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <1992Sep28.191954.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, thobgoo@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
> 
> What is this .cpt extension, and how can I translate it
> into an executable program?
> 
> If it helps at all, I am running a Mac IIsi under sys7.
> 

Compactor (.cpt)
    A new Macintosh format.  Compresses and stores multiple files in
    a single archive.
    Mac    - Compactor1.21

So, you need Compactor1.21, try archie.

edo...

Eduardo Rodriguez S        - --- - --- - --- -    erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl
Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
Universidad de Chile   --- - --- - ---   erodrigu%uchdcc@uchcecvm.BITNET
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From: 6500shd@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Stuart Dimock)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: De-BINHEXing on Mac/the .cpt extension
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:26:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.191954.1@opie.bgsu.edu> thobgoo@opie.bgsu.edu writes:

>Many apologies for what is probably a dumb question.
>Perhaps this isn't even the correct place for this...

Not a problem!  If this isn't the place, I don't know of
a better one.

>I am trying to de-BINHEX something for the first
>time. I downloaded a Mac file, and when I run it through
>BinHex v.5, I get an output file with a .cpt extension.

>What is this .cpt extension, and how can I translate it
>into an executable program?


What you have there is a file which has been compressed
under CompactPro.  This is probably the most widely used
application of its' type.  If you don't have it, you can
get it from  either Sumex-Aim at Stanford or at UMich.
You will have to look up the exact addresses somewhere
else on the net.

To download the files, set your protocol on FTP over to
ASCII, because the encrypted files are in hexadecimal.
Once you have recieved the file, open CompactPro and use
the "convert from Binhex" option under the utilities
menu.  Once you have the de-hqx'ed file in hand, you can
open it under CompactPro and expand it to yield a fully
functional Mac program.  System 7 should not give you
any problems nor should the IIsi platform.  Everything
is small, so you should have plenty of memory to spare.

I hope this helped!

-Dimock@sbmm1.ucsb.edu


--
Standardized, homogenized, sterilized,
I've heard that song before.   -Scatterbrain

Dimock@voodoo.ucsb.edu   Merlin@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: bio@rch.unimelb.edu.au ()
Subject: [help] tin caught SIGSEGV and bombed out ???
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:39:57 GMT

	Hello all,
	I just installed tin on our hpux machine, everything went fine
	accept that everytime I run tin and enter command 'g' (group search)
	after enter the group I want to search for and press return
	tin bombed out with the message

		tin: signal handler caught signal SIGSEGV (11).

	This problem occurs only if I enter 'g' as a very first command,
	otherwise things are fine.

	Has anyone encountered the same problem ??
	All helps are appreciated.
	---
	bio
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: prodigy/internet
From: doug.krile@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Doug Krile) 
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: doug.krile@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Doug Krile) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121

>> By sheer chance I was reading the October issue of Computer Shopper
>> magazi a few minutes ago.  On page 704, in the "Connect Time"
>> column:"...the Prodigy service will be adding E-mail access to
>> the Internet in the.near future.  There's no word yet as to when the
>> connection will be opened

  They're talking like it should be before the end of the year..but it
  will be a pay-per-letter type of additional charge.  No word yet on
  how much of an additional charge.  Also..they're also promising an
  off-line messaging program by the end of the year..that, too, will
  cost additional.  But would certainly be nice.

Doug Krile
Grapevine BBS
From: Richard.de.Mos@p21.f112.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Richard de Mos)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: I am a new user....
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:30:14 GMT

Mogge All,

I'am a new user in the usenet cicuit. My FIDO-net boss connected it and I am runnig along.
I am sorry if this area is not for test messages but i like to know if everything is running well.

Please sent a repley.

Many thanks

    Kind regards,
      Richard
From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Error in mv->eeyore in NH map
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:45:20 GMT
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.

We erroneously published a connection to a new site "eeyore" in the
latest NH maps.  The item was intended to be internal and temporary
and not to be published, but slipped out through mindless procedure.
"eeyore" is, we are told, a site in Europe and our mistake may affect
generation of paths to this site.

The connection listed to "eeyore" from "mv" in u.usa.nh.1 should
be changed to a connection to "gramarye" .

Yours,
-mm-
-- 
Mark E. Mallett  MV Communications, Inc./ PO Box 4963/ Manchester NH/ 03108
Bus. Phone: 603 429 2223    Home: 603 424 8129     BIX: mmallett
Internet: mem@mv.MV.COM  ( uucp: ...{decvax|harvard}!mv!mem )
Looking for news and mail in southern NH / northern MA?  Try MV!
From: rhsu@rhux.jcty.nj.us (Robert Hsu)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: New site: rhux
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:45:34 GMT
Organization: Proletarian Unix Front

#N	rhux rhux.jcty.nj.us
#F	spcvxa.spc.edu
#S	Intel 386, AT&T UNIX SVR3.2
#O	N/A
#C	Robert Hsu
#E	rhux!rhsu
#T	+1 201 656 4116
#P	201 Saint Pauls Avenue, Jersey City, NJ 07306
#L	74 04 41 W / 40 43 41 N city
#U	spcvxb
#W	rhsu@rhux.jcty.nj.us (Robert Hsu) Tue Sep 29 21:06:57 EDT 1992
#
rhux	= rhux.jcty.nj.us
rhux	spcvxb(DIRECT)
-- 
  << Robert Hsu === rhsu@rhux.jcty.nj.us === rutgers!spcvxb!rhux!rhsu >>
From: csa@cup.portal.com (CHUCK - ARAKAWA)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: List of news sites?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:51:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Does anybody know where I can get a listing of news providers?


csa@cup.portal.com or (310) 986-2722 ask for chuck
From: hacker@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Marcos Hacker)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Univ. of Mass. Amherst
Date: 2 Oct 92 04:58:12 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


  I'm looking for the address to the University of Massachusetts
at Amherst VAX/VMS system. Please reply to hacker@cis.ufl.edu.
Thanks.

/\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\
\/    Marcos Hacker           hacker@cis.ufl.edu                \/
/\    395-6607                hacker@math.ufl.edu               /\
\/    University of Florida   x4401ahh@ufcc.ufl.edu             \/
/\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\


Newsgroups: news.newsites
From: cerebrus@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Scherck)
Subject: Looking for Harvey Mudd
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:34:03 GMT


Can anyone help me find the telnet # for Harvey Mudd university in 
California? I have the address, but cannot connect. Hopefully the number
would work better..... (Address is jarthur.clairmont.edu)
Thanks.
From: angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge)
Newsgroups: news.newsites
Subject: Path for De Pauw University
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:33:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Followup-To: 
Distribution: news.newsites
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Keywords: 


Does anyone know the path to send E-mail to De Pauw University in Greencastle
Indiana?

angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: news.admin
From: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Subject: Re: [SOC] ABOUT THE BEATING DEATH OF MR. LUYEN PHAN NGUYEN
Followup-To: news.admin
Reply-To: zbig@wariat.org (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik)
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Public Access Uni* Site
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:23:03 GMT

As quoted from <1992Sep29.005519.22933@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> by arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee):

+---------------
> In article <20836@drutx.ATT.COM> nguyen@drutx.ATT.COM (Christopher Chu) writes:
> >Also, for your information, this socially related article
> >is being forwarded to 54 USENET soc.culture.* newsgroups in order to
> >socialize this event to interested readers anywhere in world.
> 
> Sigh.
> --
> "the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
> the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
> disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler
> 
> Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
>      INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)


Yeah... And when I asked Mr. Chu in private mail to avoid such
crossposts in future, and instead - if he really cannot release
his drive in other ways - to post short notice to different
groups, this bozoo from ATT started bitching.... 

No wonder ATT products are full of bugs. 

_zjt
-- 
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Zbigniew J. Tyrlik             wariat!zbig           zbig@wariat.org
IBM PC SIG Sysop - Cleveland Free-Net    aa609@cleveland.freenet.edu
Akademia Pana Kleksa   Public Access UNI* Cleveland,  (216)-481-9445
E-mail, news feeds, shell accounts        UnixBBS distribution point 
********************************************************************
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: who pays for USENET
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:22:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: atlantis.0-+1H2gr?9
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute

In article <1992Sep28.135349.27439@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>If that were the
>case, we'd all be using VT100's off an aging VAX-11/780 and pocketing
>the difference.

Who says that this is is a bad idea?  You'd be surprised at just how many
people still do this, and are happy with it.

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
  Contains: Carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup and/or sugar, caramel 
  color, phosphoric acid, caffeine, citric acid and natural flavorings.
Newsgroups: news.admin
From: lampman@fullfeed.fullfeed.com (Ray Lampman)
Subject: Re: MAPS! (was Re: Clinton/Gore organization is on the net)
Followup-To: news.admin
Summary: Please forward explanation of ps-maps
Keywords: Usenet global news network maps location?
Reply-To: Ray.Lampman@FullFeed.Com
Organization: FullFeed - Public Access Usenet/Email (+1 608 246 2701 guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:33:16 GMT

In article <ww+1Hd+q?9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
# In article <1992Sep28.075316.17629@fullfeed.fullfeed.com> Ray.Lampman@FullFeed.Com writes:
# >
# >Please, direct me to these "Usenet maps", at once!
# 
# news.lists.ps-maps

Would some kind soul please forward an explanation of  how  these
maps   are   constructed.   I  understand,  the  maps  posted  to
news.lists.ps-maps are created from the UUCP map files.  But  how
are  the  "Usenet" sites identified? And are there any non-Usenet
sites on the ps-maps? Are the ps-maps truly "Usenet maps"?
-- 
Ray.Lampman@FullFeed.Com  ,^-_    FullFeed provides public access
359 Raven Lane            L   `; Usenet news and email, plus UUCP
Madison, WI 53704, USA    \ . J   connections to the Madison area
voice +1 608 246 4239      L__]  data +1 608 246 2701 login guest
Newsgroups: news.admin
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:08:36 GMT

In article <304@ulogic.UUCP> hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman) writes:

>If it doesn't exist anymore then "!alt.sex.pictures" is meaningless and
>you'll download the pictures anyway hand have them end up in the junk
>directory (I think....)  Am I missing something here?

Am I?  We have "!alt.sex.pictures", as well as "!alt.binaries", in our
sys file, and C news simply refuses to receive articles posted to
those groups.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Date: 23 Sep 92 12:48:24 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

x10066@raphael.corp.mot.com writes:
> Can somebody tell me what are the ill-effects of having an article
> posted which is larger than the recommended size of 64k ?

It causes UUCP systems using slow modems on noisy lines to waste many dollars
of phone time transferring 86% of the file and then losing the connection,
then dialling in again and transferring 90% of the file and then losing the
connection, then...

It causes people with dumbish newsreaders (which use "more" displays to page
articles) to get very pissed off when they hit the wrong key 76% of the way
through and have to start again and page all the way through the article
again.

It causes some gateways (to other networks such as Fidonet) to fall over and
die horribly.


mathew
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: who pays for USENET
Summary: As a matter of fact.....
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:47:46 GMT
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Sep28.134442.4772@r-node.gts.org>, marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:
> In article <1a2chbINN7fq@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
> >Who pays for USENET?  I pay for USENET.
> >
> >Every month I get a bill in the mail it says
> >
> >	USENET		$4,000,000,000.00
> 
> 	What do you get for this????

I think he got a Popeil Pocket Fisherman for paying on time each month.
Or was it a velvet Elvis picture??

>  Is this a joke, or totally serious??

Is this a joke or [are you] totally serious? 

:-)   <--- "Look Martha, a SMILEY!"


-- 
 ...uunet!wa3wbu!frackit!dave -or-                       |  Dave Ratcliffe  |
 frackit!dave@uunet.UU.NET -or- dave@frackit.uucp -or-   |  Sys. <*> Admin. |
 vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.psu.edu            | Harrisburg,  Pa. |
Newsgroups: news.admin
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:16:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.151349.1962@psg.com> randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) writes:
>Fix the broken software.  Adhere to and enforce standards.

Okay, I propose we make 64K the standard.

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
  "An analogy is like instant coffee: it can wake you up, but it's
  not the real thing"  -- Peter da Silva
Newsgroups: news.admin