HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Writing an "archie", anyone want to pitch in?
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Organization: University of Rochester.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:35:13 GMT


If you've got the time and resources to develop a new AFTP database
server, why wouldn't you consider contributing that time and effort
towards improving the existing one?

If you feel that Alan and Peter have done the net a great disfavour by
charging for the new releases of Archie servers, perhaps you could
elaborate. I personally accept what they did as being necessary to
sustain the development of the service(s). I also don't think that
they're in it to bilk the net out of something, or to make a fortune
on the backs of others. I think their contributions to IETF and such
activities reflects a genuine concern for and interest in sustained
growth of the Internet community. The fact that they also have to eat
and pay rent without the benefit of graduate stipends or a job that
allows them to work on their own projects is simply a fact of life.

My money is where my mouth is: I spend more time than I should
"supporting" xarchie and developing the next version, which will be
released sometime RSN, maybe this month. I'm happy to contribute for
free to the extent that my situation allows it. They wanted to be
independent of external factors like theses or backups, and so choose
the path they did. The fact is that the Internet is becoming
commercialized at an incredible rate, and I think it's great that
knowledgeable and caring people like Alan and Peter are involved. It's
one thing to write a bit of code that sets up the servers -- we can
all do that. It's another thing entirely to devote time to community
concerns that such services generate.

George
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From: ygor@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (Daniel E. White  (F2C))
Subject: Looking for mxrn (Motif News Reader)
Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:28:47 GMT

  I'm looking for the Motif version of xrn.  Anyone know of an ftp site
from which I can get the source

  Thanx in advance.

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From: nabil@ogicse.ogi.edu (Aaron Nabil)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: Re: Writing an "archie", anyone want to pitch in?
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:10:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46131
Organization: Explosive Space Modulators - R - Us

peterd@cc.mcgill.ca (Peter Deutsch) writes:
+In article <46078@ogicse.ogi.edu> nabil@ogicse.ogi.edu (Aaron Nabil) writes:
+>I'd like to write a freely availiable archie server, preferably one
+>that can read existing archie databases.
+>
+>If you'd be interested in help out in planning or implementation, 
+>drop me a line.
+
+>Well, as one of the guys who has devoted most of the past
+>couple of years of his life to building up and keeping the
+>existing archie service alive I would have to point out
+>that the code _is_ freely available.

Freely availiable, as in _free_.  Or at least availiable.

>Of course, it is no
>longer _free_ to an archie service operator, which is a
>different issue, but those who buy it also get a lot of
>support, including coordination between the multiple
>archie sites, bug fixes, answers to a _lot_ of user's
>questions, documentation, etc. I say this only in case
>anyone who might be wondering about why we must now charge
>for access to archie wonder exactly what we are charging
>for....

You could try answering your email when commercial
sites like mine with money in their fists write you asking how
to set up an archie server. 

>... I think anyone thinking of turning an
>archie-like tool loose on the net should consider the
>impact that hundreds or thousands of similar programs
>gathering the same data would have on volunteer information
>providers,...

No doubt, but that's why I want to be able to read existing archie
databases.

>BTW, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "read
>existing archie databases"?

For example, ans.net has their archie database publicly readable.  Several
archie sites are mirroring it for their own use.


-- 
Aaron Nabil
nabil@cse.ogi.edu  
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
From: stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf)
Subject: Re: Looking for mxrn (Motif News Reader)
Originator: stumpf@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:48:34 GMT


In article <By0o40.DJq@netnews.jhuapl.edu>, ygor@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (Daniel E. White  (F2C)) writes:
|>   I'm looking for the Motif version of xrn.  Anyone know of an ftp site
|> from which I can get the source

If you have the source for xrn, you also have the source for mxrn (or xmrn).

If you don't have the xrn-source you can get it e.g. from
	ic.berkeley.edu:/pub/xrn/

Ciao
	\Maex
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 Markus Stumpf                        Markus.Stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
From: nabil@ogicse.ogi.edu (Aaron Nabil)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: Writing an "archie", anyone want to pitch in?
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:15:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46078
Organization: Explosive Space Modulators - R - Us

I'd like to write a freely availiable archie server, preferably one
that can read existing archie databases.

If you'd be interested in help out in planning or implementation, 
drop me a line.

-- 
Aaron Nabil
nabil@cse.ogi.edu
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: Re: mail servers
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:35:47 GMT
Organization: AARNet
Distribution: world
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.4

In article <1ebptnINNnks@natinst.com>, brian@natinst.com (Brian H. Powell) writes:
|>      I'm looking for an email front end to an archive.  You know, the sort of
|> thing where you send an email request to an archive server, and it sends back
|> the file you asked for.
|>      I seem to recall that there's more than one such beast available, and
|> that they are free.  If you have details, please let me know.  Thanks.

There is an FAQ for mail archive software. It's available from
pit-manager.mit.edu as 

pub/usenet/comp.mail.misc/Mail_Archive_Server_(MAS)_software_list

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Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
From: al@ccvs4.technion.ac.il (Robert A Hartshorn)
Subject: Looking for help for a new archive site
Reply-To: al@ccvs4.technion.ac.il (Robert A Hartshorn)
Organization: Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:38:31 GMT
Keywords: archive



I have been putting together an achive site on a Vax VMS system. I have also
been working on the software myself. At this time, I have about one gb of disk
space. The local power to be have thought this out and as I am only archiving
MSDOS at this time, fill that I need my own system (MicroVax II, Unix). So it
looks like I will be receiving an Unix system about mid Feb., with only 1 Gb at
the beginning and more to follow at the disks are upgraded on the other
systems. I have already talked to the Unix Section, and they will install a min
system, but the rest will be up to me. 

With this new system and as disk space becomes free, I am to archive PC, MAC,
NOVELL, HANDICAP, etc types of software. Most of it mirred, some of it local.

Now my question. As I know only about 3 Unix commands and I am not a
programmer, is there any software that has already been written that I can
start with or something I can build from. Is there any groups or lists that I
should be interested in.

In othere words. HHHHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! please.

Al

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From: stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf)
Subject: Re: IAFAfying existing archives
Originator: stumpf@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:03:15 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.162748.27033@samba.oit.unc.edu>, ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero) writes:
|> At the IAFA (Internet Anonymous FTP Archives) working group yesterday,
|> a group of archive administrators agreed to work together to help prepare 
|> IAFA descriptions for existing packages in the archives. We'll be setting up
|> a mailing list and wais archive, so that we only have to write a description
|> of gnuplot once. We'll be setting up the list and starting cranking out the
|> templates some time next week- all we need now are a few dedicated and rutheless
|> accomplices... 
|> 
|> If you're interested in helping, please send mail to Peter Deutch 
|> (peterd@bunyip.com) or myself (ses@sunsite.unc.edu).  

We already have done some work, mostly in the X11 area!
It is still the old format!
We have a WAIS and gopher server to access the files! And you may even
look in the index of our ftp-server for files ending in .idx!
The addresses are:

GOPHER:
-------
Name=IAFA Descriptions - FTP.Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Type=7
Port=70
Path=7/.wais-db/ftp-index
Host=gopher.informatik.tu-muenchen.de

WAIS:
-----
(:source 
   :version  3 
   :ip-address "131.159.0.110"
   :ip-name "wais.informatik.tu-muenchen.de"
   :tcp-port 210
   :database-name "ftp-index"
   :cost 0.00 
   :cost-unit :free 
   :maintainer "stumpf@informatik.tu-muenchen.de"
   :description "Server created with WAIS release 8 b5 on Aug 19 16:53:13 1992 b
y root@dsrbg2"
)

anonymous ftp:
--------------
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de


Please put me on the mailing-list!
Ciao

	\Maex
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
From: rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: Re: Looking for help for a new archive site
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:24:55 GMT
Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Distribution: world
Organization: Canta Forda Computer Lab, Pacifica, CA
Keywords: UNIX Freeware

> Now my question. As I know only about 3 Unix commands and I am not a
> programmer, is there any software that has already been written that
> I can start with or something I can build from.  Is there any groups
> or lists that I should be interested in.

I'm not competent to speak about the software needed to *manage* an
archive site, but I do have a suggestion about how to get the bits to
put onto your archive: CD-ROM.

There are a number of publishers of freeware and shareware CD-ROMs.
The prices are typically in the range of $25 - $50 per disc, and the
producers generally have no problem with redistribution by archives.
Compare these prices to the cost (and hassle) of FTPing the bits to
Israel, and you may find the discs to be quite a bit cheaper.  (You
may wish to bring over updated versions electronically; the CD-ROMs
are generally updated 1-4 times/year.)

Here are some contacts, mostly in the UNIX freeware arena:

  Prime Time Freeware	ptf@cfcl.com			  mostly UNIX
  Sterling Software	kent@sparky.sterling.com	  mostly UNIX
  Walnut Creek CDROM	rab@cdrom.com			  DOS, UNIX, ...
  Young Minds		yngmnds!ayoung@ucrmath.ucr.edu	  UNIX

You may also wish to contact:

	Austin Code Works
	9070 Research Blvd., #203
	Austin, TX 78758-7049  USA

	Tel: 512-926-7001

They resell a number of discs, and can give you an idea of what's on each.

Finally, look at alt.cd-rom and/or FTP to cdrom.com:/pub and look around.
The alt.cd-rom FAQ lists a number of CD-ROM vendors and distributors.

Yours, Rich Morin
Prime Time Freeware
rdm@cfcl.com
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: Re: IAFAfying existing archives
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:21:20 GMT
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) writes:

> We already have done some work, mostly in the X11 area!
> It is still the old format!
> We have a WAIS and gopher server to access the files!
> And you may even look in the index of our ftp-server for files
>  ending in .idx!
> [...]
> Please put me on the mailing-list!
> Ciao

If I didn't know better, I'd say someone had their keyboard remapped
so that the full stop key sent an exclamation mark :-)

Nat.
(wasting your money on my *own* time)
From: brian@natinst.com (Brian H. Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
Subject: mail servers
Date: 17 Nov 1992 15:58:15 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: natinst.com

     I'm looking for an email front end to an archive.  You know, the sort of
thing where you send an email request to an archive server, and it sends back
the file you asked for.
     I seem to recall that there's more than one such beast available, and
that they are free.  If you have details, please let me know.  Thanks.

Brian
Newsgroups: comp.archives.admin
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: IAFAfying existing archives
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:27:48 GMT


[ IAFA documents can be obtained by anonymous ftp from 
	archive.cc.mcgill.ca:/pub/iafa
  URL: <ftp:archive.cc.mcgill.ca//pub/iafa>a
]

Hi Y'all-

At the IAFA (Internet Anonymous FTP Archives) working group yesterday,
a group of archive administrators agreed to work together to help prepare 
IAFA descriptions for existing packages in the archives. We'll be setting up
a mailing list and wais archive, so that we only have to write a description
of gnuplot once. We'll be setting up the list and starting cranking out the
templates some time next week- all we need now are a few dedicated and rutheless
accomplices... 

If you're interested in helping, please send mail to Peter Deutch 
(peterd@bunyip.com) or myself (ses@sunsite.unc.edu).  

Simon
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Newsgroups: comp.databases
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:27:10 -0500 
From: Brandon Chin <bj+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Character supression/FoxPro 2.0

I'm using FoxPro 2.0 and I'm implementing a login screen.  The user
enters a userid and a password.  How do I supress the keyboard echo or
substitute it with a different character?  I need to do this so the
user's password doesn't echo onto the screen.  I can't figure out how to
do this in FoxPro 2.0.

Thanks in advance,
-Brandon.
From: rhaven@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Query by example?
Summary: QBE fast, but not complete
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:52:58 PST
Reply-To: rhaven@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: usa



One note: QBE cannot do as many sub-query operations as SQL can; one
often has to link several QBE Queries together to get complete 
summary information, for example.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: nkolluru@mcs213g.cs.umr.edu (N. V. Kolluru)
Subject: Re: How About COMP.DATABASES.PARADOX ?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:23:34 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov16.081841.14674@actrix.gen.nz> Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>I vote yes ! 
>
>Peter
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>New Zealand           Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz |           


I also back this opinion.

Nookaiah V. Kolluru
Dept. of Computer Science
Univ. of Missouri-Rolla
From: bfriedma@cisco.com (Barry Friedman)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Looking for C++ Database Toolkits
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:59:35 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Inc., Menlo Park, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bfriedman-ss2.cisco.com

I'm looking for an application toolkit for C++ applications that is database
independent. In the short term I need support for Sybase and Ingres,
but I also need to be able to support other databases as the need
arises.

The toolkit should allow me to do all the usual database operations such
as insert, select, update, delete. It should be able to handle joins
transparently. It should also handle buffering selected data, handle
concurrency, and handle data integrity. It should be able to define, create
and destroy tables dynamically. Finally, it should be able to deal with
large volumes of data.

I have already looked at a product called Persistence which does most of
the things I need, but I would like to hear about some alternatives. I
would be grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Barry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barry Friedman    | bfriedman@cisco.com                                   
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Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.ingres
From: zhang@cs.rochester.edu (Zhang Ju)
Subject: I am terriblly sorry 
Organization: University of Rochester
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:15:35 GMT



Because of my oversight when posting using 'f' on a crossposted article,
an ORACLE related topic has been spilled into other groups and caused 
several other articles to get here too.

Please accept my sincere apology.


Ju Zhang
Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.ingres
From: thomasl@mtl.mit.edu (Thomas J Lohman)
Subject: SQL Query and a QUEL query
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:52:17 GMT


Perhaps it is too late in the week, and/or I'm rusty with SQL, but I'm
having difficulty nonetheless.

I want to select all entries of a table like so based on some
qualifications:

select ta1.name from table1 ta1, table2 ta2 where ((ta1.id = ta2.id
and ta2.string = "testing" and ta2.sequence = 1) and (ta1.id = ta2.id and
ta2.string = "testing2" and ta2.sequence = 2))

I implemented my actual query using the exist stuff like so:

select l.nam1 from labus38 l where exists (select a.labus38 from la38_ad10 a where a.LABUS38 = l.eid and a.VARST17 = 'This is a test of the varstring type.  This is only a test.  If this had been an actual advice string, then it would contain inf' and a.seq = 1) AND exists (select a.labus38 from la38_ad10 a where a.LABUS38 = l.eid and a.VARST17 = 'ormation pertinent to this labuser, but alas it does not.' and a.seq = 2)

Please ignore the long stupid strings...

Now, what I want to know is how do I do this in QUEL?  And is there an 
easier way to do it in SQL without having to use the exists stuff?

Please be patient with my ignorance.


thanks,


--tom

Xref: sparky comp.databases:7863 comp.databases.oracle:2207 comp.databases.ingres:1895
Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.oracle,comp.databases.ingres
From: smuench@oracle.com (Steven P. Muench)
Subject: Re: I heard a Rumor about Oracle 7 and Forms
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
	<13NOV199213095729@erich.triumf.ca>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:06:08 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

   > 
   >I heard a rumor which goes that the delay of ORACLE 7 is because of its
   >incompatibility with Forms 3. So Oracle 7 is actually waiting for Forms 4.
   >

   >> That's the first I've heard of that rumor!  From all that I've seen or 
   >> heard ORACLE7 supports SQL*Forms 2.3 and 3.0.  It's being released before
   >> Forms 4.0 is even out in beta (GUI - text mode it is already I believe).
   >>
   >> I think that rumor is completely false...

Forms 3.0 supports both Oracle RDBMS version 6 and Oracle7. 
                   ~~~~              ~~~~~~~~~     ~~~~~~~
In fact, beginning with SQL*Forms 3.0.16.10, we have added the ability
for your Forms PL/SQL procedures and triggers to directly invoke
stored procedures from an Oracle7 database.

Full details on this are provided in the README file which comes with 
Forms 3.0.16.10 and greater.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
  Steve Muench              Email: smuench@oracle.com
  SQL*Forms Development
  Product Manager
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: moursand@lonestar.utsa.edu (Bowen M. Moursund)
Subject: Re: Can dBase IV programs operate freestanding
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:45:54 GMT

>I have been writing dBase IV programs for a number of years but have heard
>that it is possible to run dBase programs as freestanding programs separate
>from the dBase IV package. If this is the case how can it be done? I would
>appreciate any info, thanks.

Jim - You can purchase a RunTime package from Borland that will allow
unlimited, royalty-free distribution of DBASE applications. I dunno what
the current price is, however. Contact Borland.

- Bowen -
From: cxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher Fenton)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Key Entry III V6.04 Unprotect
Date: 21 Nov 1992 20:41:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


	Has anybody figure out how to remove the key-disk unprotect
from this program???  It looks for specially format tracks on the
key disk in the A: drive.  And of course, my A; drive's the wrong
type...  Any ideas would be greatly apreciated...


	Thanx


	C. H. Fenton


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