From: rpitts@emperor.gatech.edu (Richard Pitts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Jesus was a man, was Is it Christian values or chavinism?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:49:44 GMT
Organization: CERL-EE, Georgia Institue of Technology

In article <ksand-131092234701@wintermute.apple.com> ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
|In article <Bw2xzv.CFA@inews.Intel.COM>, pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul
|Harvey) wrote:
|> Then Jesus was a man. He lived and died like a man. Gods can simulate the
|> life of man, but they can't BE it. That's the difference between God and man.
|> If Jesus was God then all of the pain was simulated. If Jesus was man then
|> His life is truly miraculous since He did live the pain of man. If Jesus
|> was demi-god, half God, half man, then all of this was only a simulation. So,
|> was Jesus God or man?
|
|What I've read from the Bible Jesus was a man until Paul made him
|a God :-).

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God,
... the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.  (John 1:1-14)

Let us look at the prophecy of Jesus coming and who (John the Baptist) 
would come before him and who it is actually that was to come (the Lord.)

Look over these verses and see who is the coming one (the Messiah, 
the Christ, the Annointed One, the Son of God).  I believe you will
see that they all point to Jesus - the testimony of Jesus is the
spirit of prophecy (Rev 19:10.)  You will also see that the claim
to be the Son of God is seen as equal to being God.

   Mal 3:1   "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before
      me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the
      messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD
      Almighty.
   
   Mark 1:1   The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
   Mark 1:2   It is written in Isaiah the prophet: "I will send my messenger
      ahead of you, who will prepare your way" --
   Mark 1:3   "a voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the
      Lord, make straight paths for him.'"
   Mark 1:4   And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a
      baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
   Mark 1:5   The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem
      went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the
      Jordan River.
   Mark 1:6   John wore clothing made of camel's hair, with a leather belt
      around his waist, and he ate locusts and wild honey.
   Mark 1:7   And this was his message: "After me will come one more powerful
      than I, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and
      untie.
   Mark 1:8   I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy
      Spirit."
   Mark 1:9   At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was
      baptized by John in the Jordan.

   Mark 3:11   Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him
      and cried out, "You are the Son of God."
   
   Luke 4:41   Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are 
      the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak,
         because they knew he was the Christ.
   
   Luke 22:70   They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He replied,
      "You are right in saying I am."

   John 1:34   I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God."

   John 5:18   For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not 
      only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own
      Father, making himself equal with God.

   John 11:27   "Yes, Lord," she told him, "I believe that you are the Christ,
      the Son of God, who was to come into the world."


For Christ and His Kingdom,
Richard Pitts
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