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From: mftjs@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (T. Jerry Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Tandy 1200 and MUlti-Mate Problems
Keywords: (none)
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:37:57 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

A friend of mine has a Tandy 1200 that is having printing problems 
with Multimate.  I am looking for a copy of Multimate for this machine.
The owner is prepared to pay some fee (<$50) for this software, as it
would be typically outdated anyway.  

Another problem this machine has is that the current Multimate will not
print.  It will store files and retrieve them, but will not print them.
MOst of these problems began when a memory upgrade card that brought the
memory from 256 to 640K was installed.  Does anyone out there in this
group know of this type of problem with the 1200?

Your help would be appreciated.

=====================================================================
Thomas J. Scott  (aka Dr. J.)			Phone: 309-298-1452
Western Illinois University			mftjs@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: fowlerc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (John C. Fowler)
Subject: Re: TRS-80 Model 1,3, & 4 disks to IBM
Reply-To: fowlerc@boulder.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:17:58 GMT

In article <1dc08dINNn5b@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone knows of a shareware or cheaper program that will
>allow me to copy the information off of my old TRS-80 disks to an IBM.

TRSCROSS will do it, but it's a commercial program, probably in
the $60-$80 range (currently available from MISOSYS, 1-800-MISOSYS).
For a cheaper solution, you might try to get a disk zapper that doesn't
care about formats very much, so that it will read anything the disk
controller can read.  I'm not sure whether Norton Utilities will do that
or not, but you could try and see.

Of course, you could just find someone with a TRS-80.  That would
introduce lots of other solutions.

-- 
John C. Fowler, fowlerc@boulder.colorado.edu
From: Alan.Moorman@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Alan Moorman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: new clock
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 13:24:14 -0600

ML>  Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy

ML>  Richard King wants to know where he can get a copy of the software that
ML>  goes with the New Clock 80 board. Is this software still avalable?

Hi Mike,
I'd like to know what the new Clock 80 board is? Does it solve the
problems of clocks in Tandys, generally, or what?

Alan.

 * OLX 2.2 * Unable to locate Chocolate!  Operator halted.

 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)
From: gpang@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (George S. Pang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Soundblaster and IDE drives
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:41:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: uva386.1992Nov12.024133.29697
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)

hmmm... Take it into a Radio Shack, and bother them about it...
We don't have any problems with SB-pros... in fact, 4 of the
MPCs, and the new SENSATION all have the equivalent of an
SB-PRO installed... try different IRQ settings, and a different
DMA channel, and a different Hex address... REAL easy, 'cause
the cool people at Creative Labs actually COMMENT the jumper
switches i.e. - IRQ7, DMA1... 

There shouldn't be any problems with a third party drive... All
the Newer tandys are guaranteed IBM compatible... MOST of the
1000s, 2500s, 5000, and the 48xx series...

	George Pang - Ch'ville Fashion Square Radio Shack
	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: leonard@coyote.datalog.com (Leonard Lorden)
Subject: Tandy Hard Drives
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 04:30:47 GMT

Lamar,
   If you're interested in a new hard drive, you may also want to consider 
purchasing a used hard drive.  They sell for considerablly less than new, 
and are usually fairly reliable.  I bought my 35meg HD for $500, which would 
have sold new (some years ago) for well over $1000.  Roy Beck has hard 
drives (used) for sale for as little as $175 (5megs).  I'm not sure if he 
includes drivers or not.  Misosys sells new hard drives starting at $400 I
think, it's been a while since I've seen one of their adds...
From: rcisnet2!color_galaxy_mw!eric_levinson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Soundblaster and I
Keywords: (none)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:07:23 PST
Summary: (none)
Organization: The Rainbow Connection Information Service

WSHX>I am having trouble installing a Soundblaster Pro in a Tandy 386X 25.  Has
WSHX>anyone else had problems with adding the Soundblaster to their computer?  When 
WSHX>installed, the software cannot locate the card.  
WSHX>
WSHX>Additionally, I am considering buying a IDE drive but am concerned with problems
WSHX>in compatibility if I don't buy it from Radio Shack.  Are my concerns unwarranted?
WSHX>I am hoping that the Soundblaster problem is with the board not the computer.  I
WSHX>remember the older Tandy computers had a lot of problems with incompatibility
WSHX>so I am a little careful here.  I am looking at a Maxtor 170Mb drive.  Can I buy
WSHX>this mail order and expect it to work?
WSHX>
WSHX>
WSHX>---
WSHX>Scott Hiles
WSHX>whiles@relay.nswc.navy.mil
WSHX>
WSHX>Standard disclaimer:
WSHX>  The opinions expressed are those of my own and do not necessarily 
WSHX>  reflect those of the DOD or the Navy.  I accept full responsibility.

Scott,
 
I think there might be something wrong with your Soundblaster card.  The Tandy
should address it like a standard sound card.  As a matter of fact, Radio
Shack sells those cards for use in their compurters.
 
As for IDE, I have personally installed many IDE drives in Tandy 386 and 486
systems.  Brands from Connor to maxtor.  There should be no problems in the
installation.
 
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu (Nick DeMatt)
Subject: v7, Domain OS 10.4
Reply-To: nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu (Nick DeMatt)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:07:26 GMT

----------------------

Does anyone know if V7 will run under Domain OS 10.4?  If so, are their
any hidden blocks?  We currently maintain a dozen nodes in the unsupported 
toggle mode and are concerned if these nodes have to be version locked 
once v8.2 and OS 10.4 are installed.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

----------------------
Nick DeMatt
nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: dematnw1@jhuapl.edu (Nick DeMatt)
Subject: Library SIG
Reply-To: dematnw1@jhuapl.edu (Nick DeMatt)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:07:35 GMT

----------------------

This is a call for membership/participation in the newly formed library
SIG.  Elections were held during MUG 92 yielding the following officers
and team leaders.  We are looking for two additional team leaders in the
ASIC and Analog areas.  Team leaders primarily function as a focal point for
the specific discipline.  

chair	Ross Beiler
	GE Aerospace
	beiler@esc.vf.ge.com
	
Vice	Mark Deley
	DY4 Systems Inc.
	(613)596-9911

Scrtry	Nick DeMatt
	Applied Physics Laboratory
	nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu

Mentor Contact	Miki Tokola

Team Leaders
---------------------
ASIC
Analog
Digital		Chris Allred
Geometries	Paul Rubino


A set of Library SIG goals were also defined during this meeting .

			Library Goals
			-------------
	Use our collective strength to guide Mentor and other vendors
	to address library issues.
	
	Communicate individual experiences.

	Provide inputs for the V8.3 LMS.
	
	Pressure IC manufacturers on providing models.

	Review Mentor ADR specification.
	
	Share productivity enhancements across users.

	Encourage library standards.




An initial attempt was made to identify those library issues pertinent
to the SIG.  It is by no means all inclusive, if you have additional
inputs please forward.

			Library Issues
			--------------
	LMS				Technology Independent Symbols
	Configuration Control		ASICS/FPGAS
	Simulation, Board Models	Analog Libraries
	Library Updates			3rd Party Libraries
	Creating Components		Electronic Data Books
	MIL Specifications		CFI
	IEEE IEC Standards		Information Exchange


If you have any interest in receiving minutes/updates or would like to
participate, please email any of the above officers asap.  We are 
currently committed to immediate response of an electronic database 
questionaire and review of Mentor's Advanced Data Representation (ADR) 
proposal. 

The library SIG members as well as Mentor view this SIG as a potentially
powerful force not only with respect to the Mentor tool set but also the
entire EDA family, from manufacturers to vendors to suppliers.
 
We urge you to please give serious consideration to this call.

----------------------
Nick DeMatt
nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: The living Nightmare
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 15:54:46 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

Well, I am. I've forwarded all comments so far to our Platform Marketing
people.

- Greg

In article <1992Nov9.085507.19406@fys.ruu.nl>, vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl (Jurriaan Vreeburg) writes:
|> In <1992Nov07.203245.9837@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
|> >Once again we are made to wait...
|> 
|> Hurray for Chuck.
|> 
|> Anyone at mentorg.com reading? Looking forward to your reaction.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Jurriaan Vreeburg                             email: vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl
|> Department of Physics and Astronomy           tel.:  (+31)-(0)30-534566
|> P.O. Box 80.000
|> 3508 TA  Utrecht  Holland

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: follandc@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Chris Folland)
Subject: Re: v7, Domain OS 10.4
Organization: Motorola LTD
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:33:44 GMT

Chuck Tomasi writes
>	... This latest announcement about 10.4 is going to make my next few >months a living nightmare with respect to the Engineers and their work.
>
>Once again we are made to wait...

	I dont think it will be as painless as you make out. We've been
fortunate to have a spare DN3550 16M ram hanging around, Its been running on
OS 10.4 for four mounths or so. The node is auth. for board.sta only, and just
this alone, we haven't seen any major problems with the v7.05 application. So
with good luck your living nightmare, may only be pleasent dream.
-- 
Regards.....

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Motorola Ltd, European Cellular Infrastructure Division, Fax No.(0) 793 541228.
16 Euroway, Blagrove, Swindon, England, SN5 8YQ.         Telex.         445549.        
Email address - follandc@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com 
                uunet!motcid!zeus!follandc
*
*
Disclaimer.
~~~~~~~~~~~
    Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my
terminal, my bable-fish, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. 
The question of the existence of views, in the absence of anyone to hold them, 
is left as an exercise for the reader...... I think.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: v7, Domain OS 10.4
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 20:52:08 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <BxB0wE.5Hn@netnews.jhuapl.edu>, nick_dematt@jhuapl.edu (Nick DeMatt) writes:
|> ----------------------
|> 
|> Does anyone know if V7 will run under Domain OS 10.4?  If so, are their
|> any hidden blocks?  We currently maintain a dozen nodes in the unsupported 
|> toggle mode and are concerned if these nodes have to be version locked 
|> once v8.2 and OS 10.4 are installed.
|> 

The current plan is to support V7 on SR10.4 in Q193. Preliminary testing
has been largely successful.

-- Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: grady@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Grady)
Subject: Re: Bold Browser Problem (DOMAIN OS)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:10:23 GMT

Mentor does not support release 8.1 on Domain 10.4. It was "quality-assured"
on Domain 10.3.5.4. There are a number of changes in CD control between
Domain 10.3.5.4 and 10.4. We found that running 8.1 under 10.4 seemed to work
for everything (i.e. all the sytests ran correctly) except BOLD. What we
found would work is to attach the CD and run the Bold server on a platform
running 10.3.5.4. Then all the rest of your Apollos can run 10.4, and run
Bold Browsers which will successfully connect to the Bold server on the
10.3.5.4 platform.
-- 
Michael Grady,  Univ. of Illinois Computing & Communications Services Office
Internet: mike-grady@uiuc.edu   phone: (217) 244-1253    fax: (217) 244-7089
Disclaimer: The opinions of CCSO may differ from mine.
From: steve@ddbeezer.Dundee.NCR.COM (Steve Mallows)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: PLOTTING FROM MENTOR USING QMS860 LASER
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: steve@ddbeezer.Dundee.NCR.COM (Steve Mallows)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M Dundee


  Does anyone out there in Mentorland have any idea what A3/A4
  laser printers are supported for Mentor Version 8 software 
  running on the HP 700 series platform ?

  We are currently moving over to the HP 700 platform for our EDA 
  environment and have been told that our Imagen printers are
  no longer supported. We are interested in the  QMS 860 A3/A4
  laser printer but have been told by our Mentor salesman that it 
  won't be QA'd for another 6 months. Does anyone have experience
  of the QMS 860 plotting from Mentor Version 8 running on the 
  HP 700 series ?

  Thanks in advance for any info. 

                                  Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen)
Subject: Re: Sun SPARC hangs on v8.1 Layout
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:19:36 GMT
Keywords: sun openwin layout bug

In article <1992Nov10.184340.16380@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, knudsen@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (michael.j.knudsen) writes:

> I THINK this lockup is caused by accidentally pressing certain "shifter"
> keys while using the mouse.  In particular those just to left of spacebar --
> ALT and the undocumented "diamond" key immediately adjacent to the spacebar
> on either side.  "Diamond" (Sun's answer to the "Apple" key?) is totally
> mysterious as to its intended purpose -- even Sun manuals ignore it.

Actually, I did find some mention of this key in a Desktop manual.
It's called "Meta" (shades of Stanford and CMU early '70s, still reflected
in Emacs manuals) and indeed is another "shifter" key.

> My thought is that ALT and/or Diamond "modify" mouse click codes into
> events that Mentor's applications choke on, just as SHIFT and CTRL
> access additional (but useful and documented) mouse functions.

I'm even more certain of this now that the Meta key's purpose is known.

Now it's up to Mentors remaining programmers to fix their Xwindows
interface so oddball mouse events don't hang the system.

> I've yanked all those useless keys off with needle-nose pliers, but it

Heh heh.  The Sun physical designers beat this one -- they put the spring
(a rubber cup) inside the keytop, so if you yank a key, it often
sticks *closed*.  Guess you have to destroy the conductive rubber membrane
below the key too, and hope nobody ever needs it.  Bad for resale value.

> Any help would be appreciated.  I realize Mentor's interface
> to XWin needs work -- but can anyone help?  Thanks, mike knudsen

I understand that Mentor grew up on Apollo Aegis/Domain and the port
to XWin (OpenWindows) is just that, a port.
Still would like any hints anyone can give.
-- 
	"I don't think so, Al"
  Programmers Do It on paper.  So do puppies.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: iqbal@mentorg.com (Iqbal Khan)
Subject: DA Error
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:01:29 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation

In an effort to enhance the communication paths we use to inform you of
relevant product information, Mentor Graphics will begin posting to the
comp.sys.mentor news group. This notice contains newly discovered and/or
previously undocumented information about Mentor Graphics products.  In order
to provide our customers with the most current product information, Mentor
Graphics will continue to use this newsgroup to post future updates.

**********************  Design Architect  V8.1 ONLY ******************

We have discovered an error message which does not have an explanation
documented in the manuals or help files.  To ensure that you do NOT try to
correct this error without the proper procedure, we are sending this
notification.  

The error message from Version 8.1 Design Architect appears as
follows: 

     Error: Cannot lock sheet for edit at path
"/user/mgc/original/schematic/sheet1"

This lock sheet error can happen for a variety of reasons, including:
concurrent users of the same design, broken references, etc.  If you see this
error, we suggest you call the Mentor Graphics SupportCenter (1-800-547-4303),
use the /pub/mgc_info/mentortech/DA_Open_Symbol on the SupportNet on-line 
Internet at address isl (137.202.128.4), or refer to SupportBulletin #119, 
due at your site on November 20th.  
Newsgroups: cpmp.lsi.cad,comp.sys.mentor,comp.cad.cadence
From: vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl (Jurriaan Vreeburg)
Subject: The living Nightmare
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:55:07 GMT

In <1992Nov07.203245.9837@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:

>gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:

>:)The current plan is to support V7 on SR10.4 in Q193. Preliminary testing
>:)has been largely successful.

>[ This article is not meant to be a "Mentor Bashing", just an          ]
>[ expression of my opinion towards the transition process from v7.0    ]
>[ to v8.0 where the operation system is involved on Domain/OS machines.]

>This has been a major gripe at our site and we have let several people
>at MGC (sales and support) know about it.

>On the one hand you are asking everyone to transition, thus we bring up
>8.1 and find that it has some "shortcomings".  Our site may be a bit
>unique in that we use nearly all Mentor tools (except IC.)  There is no
>official LMS (Library Management System), the analog tools were on a
>supplemental release, and we still don't have things like GenRad
>netlisters.  An incomplete release once again.

>Now we find out that things like LMS will be available in 8.2, however
>to transition to 8.2 (due out Nov-Dec time frame from what I hear) it is
>required that the node be running 10.4.

>Thus the catch!  Once you've made the leap to 8.2/10.4 you cannot run
>7.0 until it is released for 10.4.  I'm sorry, but this is supposed to
>be a "transition" and not a "quantum leap."  We'll still need to run our
>7.0 tools until we have successfully installed 8.2, tested the
>robustness of the tools, put a pilot project through, and given two
>thumbs up.

>We are a site of approximately 35 nodes.  We cannot afford to cut out
>one board station, one idea station, etc. and dedicate them to the task
>of getting 8.2 up and running and then wait for 7.0 to come out before
>we can use them again on existing designs.

>As the System Administrator it is my task to make sure that the
>Engineers can carry out their work as seemlessly as possible.  This
>latest announcement about 10.4 is going to make my next few months a
>living nightmare with respect to the Engineers and their work.

>Once again we are made to wait...

Hurray for Chuck.

Anyone at mentorg.com reading? Looking forward to your reaction.

-- 
Jurriaan Vreeburg                             email: vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl
Department of Physics and Astronomy           tel.:  (+31)-(0)30-534566
P.O. Box 80.000
3508 TA  Utrecht  Holland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: iigsa01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Schilling)
Subject: Bold Browser Problem (DOMAIN OS)
Reply-To: renz@gris.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
Organization: Universitaet Tuebingen, WSI/GRIS, FRG
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:45:23 GMT


Mentor-Graphics SW-Release 8.1 
DOMAIN OS 10.4

Problem:
Bold-Browser doesn't get a connection to the library-server 
Problem probably concerned with missing llbd-daemon in DOMAIN-OS 10.4
(substituted with rcpd).

Oliver Renz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: v7, Domain OS 10.4
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 20:32:45 GMT

gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:

:)The current plan is to support V7 on SR10.4 in Q193. Preliminary testing
:)has been largely successful.

[ This article is not meant to be a "Mentor Bashing", just an          ]
[ expression of my opinion towards the transition process from v7.0    ]
[ to v8.0 where the operation system is involved on Domain/OS machines.]

This has been a major gripe at our site and we have let several people
at MGC (sales and support) know about it.

On the one hand you are asking everyone to transition, thus we bring up
8.1 and find that it has some "shortcomings".  Our site may be a bit
unique in that we use nearly all Mentor tools (except IC.)  There is no
official LMS (Library Management System), the analog tools were on a
supplemental release, and we still don't have things like GenRad
netlisters.  An incomplete release once again.

Now we find out that things like LMS will be available in 8.2, however
to transition to 8.2 (due out Nov-Dec time frame from what I hear) it is
required that the node be running 10.4.

Thus the catch!  Once you've made the leap to 8.2/10.4 you cannot run
7.0 until it is released for 10.4.  I'm sorry, but this is supposed to
be a "transition" and not a "quantum leap."  We'll still need to run our
7.0 tools until we have successfully installed 8.2, tested the
robustness of the tools, put a pilot project through, and given two
thumbs up.

We are a site of approximately 35 nodes.  We cannot afford to cut out
one board station, one idea station, etc. and dedicate them to the task
of getting 8.2 up and running and then wait for 7.0 to come out before
we can use them again on existing designs.

As the System Administrator it is my task to make sure that the
Engineers can carry out their work as seemlessly as possible.  This
latest announcement about 10.4 is going to make my next few months a
living nightmare with respect to the Engineers and their work.

Once again we are made to wait...
-- 
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chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |    decide to go bowling together..."
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |             -Data "The Outrageous Okana"
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