From: don@ocf.berkeley.edu (Don Bromley)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:04:00 GMT
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In article <1992Nov21.134459.22837@rigel.econ.uga.edu> mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills) writes:
>>> CJ Silverio
>> D Bremley
>
>Dipshit, leave the attributions in.  This is the second time you have
>left them out entirely.

  If I violated NetNews etiquette I'm sorry.  I'm new to this, but thanks
  for the kind advice.
>
>>[Irrelevant data charts deleted]
>
>Irrelevant only because they proved you flat wrong.

  Since they mentioned nothing about married mothers, I think not.
>
>>  anti-abortion = doesn't care about women ???  I don't think so...
>
>*I* know so, and I know a hell of a lot more about it than you.

  Wow, It's really amazing how much you know about people you've never
  talked to!
>
>Second-trimester, yes.  Third trimester?  By the thousands?  Where?
>And I noticed you didn't quote your source.  That's typical fundie
>intellectual dishonesty (if "intellectual" is the right word).

  At least you agree about the second-trimester abortions.

>
>I also know that children are starvinng to death by the MILLIONS in
>Africa, yet you don't seem to have any passion about that.  After

  Oh I don't?  Again, it's amazing how much you know about me.  Have
  we met?

>all, forcing women to undergo pregnancy and birth that they don't
>even want is a hell of a lot more glamorous than saving wanted,
>starving children.

  I don't think being thrown in prison is "glamorous".

>
>>  Have you ever seen what get's sucked out of the womb?  
>
>Do you know that very few fetuses are "sucked out of the womb" anymore?
>(Now remember, anything less than 50% is an "irrelevant minority" to you,
>like the married women who have abortions.)
>
>BTW, Have YOU seen a suction abortion?  If so, what the hell were you
>doing in the middle of a sterile operating room?

  No, I haven't been in an abortion clinic thank God, but I've seen
  footage and lots of pictures.  Yes, arms, fingers, heads, legs...
  all there...

>
>>It's arms,
>>  legs, heads...  not "tissue".  
>
>Oh really.  I have another source for you:
>
>
>in the bottom of the cup.  The quantity was so little that I could have
>hidden it if I had taken it into my hand and made a fist.

  Ever see a premature baby?  Pretty small huh?  I guess they don't
  count as much since they're "small".

>
>Perhaps it would inspire you to THINK and gain a little compassion.

  I DO have compassion, for both the mother and the baby, but in many
  circumstances I think it's morally wrong to have an abortion.
>
>I don;t know anyone who is "gung-ho" about abortions.  Every single person

  What about the opponents of the 24-hour waiting period?  What about
  the opponents of parental notification?

>I know wishes there were no abortions, since there is no need for abortions.

  No need?  What about women who don't use birth control because if they
  get pregnant they can just get an abortion?

>I personally have *had* an abortion, and that experience galvanized my
>pro-choice philosophy.

  I can understand your bias then.
>
>>  Well, I'm more interested in discussing Rush than abortion, so this
>>  is all I have to say concerning abortion on alt.rush-limbaugh.
>
>Yeah, suddenly uninterested because soundly beaten.  Well, that's one
>less uneducated twit we'll have to listen to.  The door's that way.

  No, but this is not alt.abortion, and I simply wanted to change the
  topic for the benefit of the other readers.  But if you're going to
  personally attack me, I have no choice but to defend myself.

>
>-- 
>Ferrari (mills@rolf.stat.uga.edu)

					-Don Bromley

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