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From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Interbike Goodies
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:26:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvG888.8Lo
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter) writes:
>Along a similar line, I stopped in to muy favourite local shop
>to get the scoop on the Canadian version of Interbike.  Some 
>of the things I can remeber are:
>- probably the most interesting is that Norco will have shocks
>  as OEM equipment on all there bikes from the Bigfoot model
>  up (ie $600 CDN and up).  The low end forks look a little
>  cheesy but have great "curb appeal" to the mid range buyer.
>  As you go up the models, the shocks improve to new Suntour
>  shocks, Marzocchis, and Rock Shox.
>- full suspension bikes abound
>- Rock Shox are introducing a new elastomer bumper shock (the
>  Quadra) and looks to be under $300 CDN.
>I wish I could remember.  Looks like '93 is gooing to be a
>good year for mountain biking.
>Cheers...Stuart
I dunno....I've been reading about all these low end mountain bikes
with suspension.  It seems to me that having cheaper components and a
heavier frame, along with a cheap fork is not really a good idea in
the long run.  It seems like the people these bikes are targeted at
are the least likely to have the know-how to maintain them.  I don't
think all that many people NEED suspension so badly that it should
be a standard item.  Comments?
-Terry
From: mdk@michael.udev.cdc.com (Mike D. Kail)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: 1992 Trek Override Cross Info wanted
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:34:44 GMT
Reply-To: mdk@michael.udev.cdc.com (Mike D. Kail)
Organization: Control Data Systems

Does anyone have any information in regards to this bike, such
as a good price (I can get it for $320), features, etc...

Post or e-mail respones

Thanks in advance

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From: ayao@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Aubrey Yao)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: Cheap bike
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:07:08 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Hi, a friend of mine is looking for a very inexpensive bike used for getting
around on campus. Any one want to unload a cheap dependable bike?

AY
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt)
Subject: racing handlebars
Summary:  Modolo, TTT, or something else?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:12:51 GMT


Hi,  I guess it's my turn to ask about a cycling component.

I'm looking for a new pair of handlebars.  Mine are still in one piece but
are too narrow.  A widder bar  should be improve my sprint, give a more
aggressive control over my bike.  (imagine trying to steer holding the stem
as opposed to the drops of the bar)  

So I've looked at the Modolo X-tenos and TTT Sl Forma. i like these bars
for the flat drop section.  Can anyone give me opinions on these bars
or suggestions for other ones.  

FYI, I'm a cat 4 racer (for now)  and I've found that my sprint is pretty
darn good.  So, handle bar strength and flex are very important to me.

thanks.
John
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Specialized Speedzone Computer
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:04:55 GMT
Distribution: usa

In an article, aviator@athena.mit.edu (Joakim Karlsson) writes:
> Also...I was under the impression that the Speedzone does not have
> average speed, but the Nashbar catalog says it does.  Anyone know
> for sure?
> 
The Speedzone definitely has average speed.  We have one and like it
quite well, though I have brought some reliability problems on myself
by cutting and extending the pickup wire to reach to the stoker bars
on our tandem (the wire is very fine and my soldering technique leaves
something to be desired).

Wade

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From: rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis)
Subject: Re: Vistalight VL-400 headlight: First Impressions
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:33:45 GMT

What was the price for the system and what for the six volt rechargable?

Robert M. Lewis
Department of Sociology
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: takeuch@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Travis L Takeuchi)
Subject: Re: Allsop Suspension Stem Opinions wanted
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:01:37 GMT

The product is adjustable from very sensitive to almost complete lock-out and
did not adversely affect the way my bike handled.  The 3 inches of travel
did a good job in soaking up the jolts both small and large.  I found the
stem to work best at speed downhill and the weight of the stem was not
noticable while climbing.  The stem locks-out when pulling up thus sprinting
and climbing were not hindered. 

Therefore, I highly recommend that you purchase this product.

Best regards,
TT
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Comments on "Performance Bars" ?
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:28:13 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <truesdel-290992204524@aux-1.ics.uci.edu> truesdel@ics.uci.edu (R. Scott Truesdell) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.135706.11086@waikato.ac.nz>, jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
>wrote:
>>
>> I was in a sports shop yesterday and discovered a new type of 'power bar'
>> that's just been imported from the states. It's called a "Performance Bar"
>> and comes in a silver foil wrapper
>
>Sounds like the product of Performance Bicycles, a USA bike store chain
>that sells only their own brand of bicycles. Performance bicycles are 'ok'
>but never leading any technology races, IMHO.

If he's right about this being Performance Bicycles' PowerBar clone, then
I'd suggest you save your money for something else.

The Performance Bar I looked at in the local outlet recently was attractive
because the price was about what I pay for PowerBars (and Cliff Bars, which
I much prefer) on sale.  But where PowerBars and their expensive immitators
are using "natural" or high-tech ingredients, the Performance bar is little
more than a repackaged candy bar.  The first ingredient, as I recall, is that
old standby corn syrup.

You may or may not feel that PowerBars are worth their asking price.  (I
don't.)  But it makes no sense to buy the cheaper Performance bar when you
can get the same thing in a Snickers package for half the price.
-- 
****************************************************************************
Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
"Quayle in '94"		   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: u910446@postoffice.utas.edu.au (DAN THE WANDERER)
Subject: ARGENTINA->ALASKA:SUITABLE MTB NEEDED!
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:44:17 GMT

GREETINGS ALL BIKE BUFFS!! I'm tentatively looking for info regarding a mountain 
bike that will 'go the distance' between furthest South Argentina to the end of Alaska.
My knowledge of the bike market is insufficient to enable me to determine which of 
the many MTB's on the market could possibly do the whole distance. I'm looking at a 
price range below Aust $3000 to hopefully get a decent bike with (obviously) a few 
spares. I am contemplating a hybrid cross MTB to cater for the variety of road surfaces 
to be encountered. It must be a relatively solid  enough to carry climbing and personal 
gear but at the same time as light as possible to help keep the overall weight down. At 
this stage I'm contemplating using wider MTB type tyres for the South American bit and
then switching to 'slicks' for the northern part of the trip. I am very interested to hear
peoples comments as to the most suitable type of bike considering which bikes have a
better reputation for long wearing of parts etc. As I will be going to Europe, the place 
where I end up purchasing a suitable bike is fairly wide ie: Australia, Singapore, 
and Europe but I would also be keen to find out info from the US market on costs and 
what people think could be a bike which has the right combination of solidness but 
yet lightness, long long lasting of gear systems, hubs, and last but definitely not least
a bike at an affordable cost. Given that the trip is c.a 30000+ km it is obvious that I will
need to replace parts but what I want to know is those parts that have the longest 
durability so that such repairs out in the middle of nowhere are kept to a minimum!
I would be VERY APPRECIATIVE  of any replies  and can be addressed to email or the 
network in general.  Once again, thanks in advance.


Replies welcome to :          u910446@postoffice.utas.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: takeuch@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Travis L Takeuchi)
Subject: Cadex, GT tundra and Zaskar, Manitou forks
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:10:33 GMT

Does anyone know whether the Giant Cadex comes in sizes less than 18 inches.  I was told that the 92 Cadex only came in 18 and 20 inches and that the 93 Cadex would have a 16.5 inch size available. Is this correct?
Does anyone have any opinions about the Cadex?

Does anyone know anything about GT tundra? Is it the same as the Zaskar?

Does anyone have any opinions about Manitou suspension forks?  I'm thinking
about purchasing a pair.

Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: eak@swl.msd.ray.com (EFTHYMIOS KIAFOULIS)
Subject: T-Bone Stem Advice Sought ???
Summary: Stem Advice Sought
Keywords: T-Bone
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:40:23 GMT


    If anyone currently uses or has used the T-Bone Stem,
 please provide me with some comments on its performance (stiffness,
 creakness, strength, durability, etc...).  Thank you in advance.


                                             Efthymi


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From: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist))
Subject: Cannondal SM1000 w/ Deore DX for sale
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:30:09 GMT

1991 Cannondal SM 1000 off-road bicycle for sale.

Deore DX rear derailleur

Suntour XC Comp front derailleur

Deore XT STI lever/shifters except for the friction thumb shifter for the
front derailleur

Scott SE cantilever brakes

Scott AT-3 handlebar

Deore DX cranks

Ritchey seatpost

Deore DX hubs

Mavic 231 rear rim

Ritchey Vantage Comp front rim

Stainless spokes

This bike has been very well maintained by a fanatic mechanic.  There are 
scratches on the frame, however.

Asking $900 Canadian, negotiable

Please contact me via e-mail or directly call Greg at 727-8810.
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From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Subject: Re: Using Cannondales as Track Bikes
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:55:47 GMT

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) writes:
: If you use a proper track chain, which is quite a bit 
: thicker and stronger than the road variety, you can put in a special link 
: which is basically a half link, so that chain length can be adjusted a 
: lot better.

It has literally been about 20 years since I have seen a half link in
use.  Are they commonly available in Canada?

: Track bikes are usually ridden with a bit of slack in the 
: chain anyway so being off by maybe one link won't be catastrophic.  

One link's worth of slack is a lot.  I would expect the chain to
come off with that much slack.

Harry Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Subject: Re: clipless pedal options
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: clipless SPD pedals
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:21:35 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <84032@bcsaic.boeing.com> gareth@bcsaic.boeing.com (Gareth Beale) writes:
>I am seriously considering switching to clipless pedals.  The last FAQ
>I saw did not contain any discussion of this subject.

Some time ago, at least one person has said they would gather information
on clipless pedals and write up something for the FAQ, but so far nothing
has shown up in my email...  :-(


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University of California, Irvine     BITNET:      iglesias@uci
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From: tgorb@rrc.chevron.com (Joe Gorberg)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Glasses and goggles
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:51:02 GMT
Reply-To: tgorb@rrc.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California

In article 6452@unlinfo.unl.edu, aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan) writes:
>ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>>brockr@muvaxa.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride) writes:
>
>>>  Quick question:  as a rider who wears glasses (unfortunately I can't wear
>>>contacts) I was wondering if anyone has heard of a company which sells goggles
>>>which can fit over glasses?  Do such goggles even exist?  Thanks in advance.
>
>>There are many (ski) goggles that can fit over glasses (depending on the size).
>>There are also wrap-around sun glasses by Oakly, Bolle and USA Sport (and
>>others I am sure) that can be fitted with a prescription lens.  The Bolle are
>>the cheapest to fit, and the Bolle Edge looks a lot like a goggle.
>
 
>>Ron Feigen
>>ronf@panther.mot.com
 
You might give Sport USA a call (San Diego, CA, I think). I have a pair of their
"Oakley Razor Blade-like" sunglasses and know that they can be fitted with a 
prescription lens.  The sunglasses are very light, comfortable, fashonable and
an overall good value.  And they don't look like ski goggles! 

My $0.02

Joe

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
From: dkw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Wittenberg)
Subject: Re: More bad press for cyclists
Organization: Brandeis University Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:52:31 GMT

In article <BvLELw.Htr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:
|> Noticed some more bad press that cyclists are getting. This time it's
|> in the November issue of Spider-Man comics.

[description deleted]

Write to the publisher.  Apparently the comics publishers are quite
sensitive about getting flamed.  They just changed the bio of the guy
who kills superman because people complained about his being described
as a "super loony".

--David Wittenberg
From: mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Hybrid mountain bikes
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:26:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I need some help.  I'm looking into buying a hybrid mountain bike - the kind
that would be great for getting around campus, town and the parks but wouldn't
necessarily be that great for some good off road riding.  Any suggestions ? 
I would like to get something in the $250 range.  I have found a specialized for
that much, but am wary of things I've heard about them being over priced.
This will be a gift for a friend, so I need to hear from you all in a couple of days to a week.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Matt
-- 
Matt Ross
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
What ever you do, take care of your shoes.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.rides
From: davids@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (David Suryan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Burley tandem summary
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:05:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1686F11670.EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu> EPLUS17@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Engelbrecht-Wiggans) writes:

>>Whether captain/stoker pedals should be in phase or 90
>The supposed disadvantages of going out of phase include the following:
> 
>1.  It is hard for both riders to stand up.  (We have no problem.)
> 
>2.  It looks weird.  (So what?)
> 

I'll add a third: Less pedal clearance for hard cornering.

At any rate why not try the pedals both ways, after all what have you
got to lose?
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22956 rec.bicycles.soc:440 alt.save.the.earth:1237
From: dmarsh@cs.strath.ac.uk (David R Marsh CS91)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Fight the Fumes Week Commuter Challenge
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:37:39 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.soc
Distribution: uk
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: dmarsh@simpson-04

Here are the results of the FoE/Glasgow Cycling Campaign Commuter Challenge
held this morning as part of Fight the Fumes Week.

All participants had to race from the specified starting points to arrive in
George Square, Glasgow as quickly as possible.

from Whiteinch:

Transport    Start    Arrive

bike         0815     0834
bus/tube     0815     0840
car          0815     0839


from Dennistoun:

bike         0833     0842
bus          0830     0859
car          0830     0856


from Cambuslang:

no bike                         
train        Left Home: 0807   Train left:  0811  Arrive: 0826
car          Left Home: 0818   Check point: 0829  Arrive: 0853   


Notes:

The bus/Underground competitor arrived last from Whiteinch due to having to
change from bus to Underground at Partick, and also just missed a train as
he arrived at the station.

There was no bike competitor from Cambuslang as we couldn't find a volunteer
who lived there. :-)

The car competitor from Cambuslang started her journey in Busby and went
to Castlemilk as a "check point" as it is the same distance from George Sq
as Cambuslang.

2 minutes were added to the car time at Castlemilk to allow for getting into
the car and starting it up etc. The cyclists had to lock up their bikes at
the finish before being allowed to cross the line.

Conclusion:

The bike wins every time! :-)
(cf London Cycling Campaign event previously; the cyclists won and a bus didn't
even turn up in the time allowed!)


Dave.--dmarsh@cs.strath.ac.uk  or  cad129@ccsun.strath.ac.uk {or sthg similar!}-

 Remember FoE Fight the Fumes Week 5 - 10 October. Green masks available from
 HMV, price UK$ 1 (or from Strathclyde Uni Green Group, only 50p for members!)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: roads & inconsiderate motorists
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:37:01 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   Wed, 23 Sep 1992 01:37:33 GMT
>FROM:   Alan Grant Finlay <alanf@cs.monash.edu.au>
>
>aq722@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Gregor) writes:
>
>>Arrgghhhhh!
>
>>Did you ever have the urge to come up to a random motorist
>>stopped at a light and scream "GET THE HELL OFF THE ROAD!!!"
>
>>No?
>
>>Well, I'm *trying* to understand why they seem to do it to me. 
>
>You should understand that in a democracy there are differences
>of opinion.  A large proportion (I'd say about 20%) of motorist
>really believe bicycles should not be allowed on roads[....]

There's a bit more to it than that, I think. People do lots of things 
that I don't like -- chew gum loudly, wear bad hairpieces, and, of 
course, drive huge, stinking, dangerous cars all over the place, and 
drive 'em very badly at that. All very exasperating. 

But I don't feel entitled to shout at these people, much less assault 
them. 

So what is it about motorists? I vacillate between two hypotheses:

1) The activity of driving *in itself* tends to disturb people's mental
equilibrium. Some combination of isolation effect, physical immobility 
combined with high anxiety, and perhaps neurological damage due to lead 
poisoning. 

2) The automobile has become so hegemonic in our economy, culture, and 
collective imagination, that any interference with it is seen as a kind 
of atrocity or sacrilege. The analogy would be with the abject, 
flea-bitten peasantry of mediaeval Europe, with their deep love and 
veneration for the lords and clerics that ground their faces in the mud. 
The car bestrides our physical and emotional lives like a two-ton, 
poison-spewing incubus, and yet we love it, with the deep, tremulous 
love that only profound masochists know.

Of course, these two hypotheses are not mutually exclusive.

-- Michael Smith
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Subject: Re: Comments on Bridgestone?
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:09:22 GMT

In article <920921.193837.amiller@almaden.ibm.com> amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller) writes:
>In <BuyK40.Drw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>  tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>
>I didn't take any notes, but the '93 RB-1 has Ultegra STI and I
>think it was red.

The 7-speed RB-1 (the red one) is nearly identical to last year's model.
The only change I can remember is that they spec'd SunTour Superbe Pro
brakes.

The 8-speed RB-1 (the yellow one) is, I believe, full STI.

The '93 catalogue was available at the show (it was marked $5.20).

>
>Alex
>amiller@almaden.ibm.com


--
Mark Chandler               Novell, Inc.          510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com      Walnut Creek, CA      510/938-2562 FAX
==================================================================
     The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: roads & inconsiderate motorists
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:27:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Sep30.212710.14280
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <2926887784.3.p00004@psilink.com> p00004@psilink.com (Michael Smith) writes:
>
>My experience in NYC is that the police are sublimely indifferent to 
>this kind of thing. I was once knocked off my bike by a motorist, who 
>stopped his car, picked up my (smashed) bike from in front of his 
>vehicle, threw it onto the sidewalk, climbed back in and zoomed away. I 
>got his plate number, called the cops, waited an hour for them to 
>arrive, and was told, when they did arrive, that they weren't going to 
>do anything -- of course I could always get a lawyer and sue the guy.

Come on! This was hit and run. If the cop wouldn't do anything all it
would take is a trip down to the DA's office and the _insistance_
that he write it up. You would have to press charges so you'd need
some sort of proof, but a dented bike and possibly body are pretty
strong evidence in court.

And then the insurance company would be a walk-over.

If you have any trouble in these sorts of cases, you'd need only to
contact a lawyer who would probably do the work on contingency since
it is a positive win situation with any evidence at all.
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