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From: MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Ftp.Apple.Com
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:05:28 GMT
Organization: The Internet

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:39:07 EST Scott Steinbrink said:
> Someome mentioned that System 6 is available there --
> I tried looking it up and couldn't find it?
>
> Where is it?

cd dts/aii/sys.soft/gs.system6
dir

>ProLine:  stein5@pro-columns
>NetCom:  derich@netcom.com
>CIS   :  76106,2055
>Internet: stein5@pro-columns.cts.com

Mikey, the MikeMeister, Mike-a-Roony, Mike-a-Roney, the Mike-stuff,
Michael Michael Motercycle, the Mike-man, Mighty-Mike, Moncho-Moncho-Mik
Mikey-on-the-Righty, Mikey-rikey-dikey-likey, I like Mike, nighty-nighty
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher)
Subject: Re: Follow-up, AWGS Laserprinter question
Reply-To: julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:42:08 GMT

In article <920402153738.132287@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL  
writes:
> A couple of people graciously and quite completely answered almost all
> my recently posted set of AWGS questions.  Neither however seems to have
> a laserprinter so they were unable to answer my questions on that topic
> with much certitude.  So, I'd like to repost just them in case someone
> who knows the answers missed them the first time.
> 
> First of all, I have a knock-off (Abaton under the Everex label)
> laserprinter that very fully emulates a full-scale Apple LaserWriter
> (full level 1 postscript, 36 built-in fonts.)  It is connected to my GS
> via the serial printer port and works just fine, especially with
> WordPerfect.
> 
> So, my primary question is, will AWGS work with such a configuration?
> (One of my earlier respondents thought that the laserprinter driver ONLY
> works over AppleTalk.)
> 
> My secondary question is, can it use postscript fonts or does it always
> use GS screen fonts?  (whether 1x, 2x, or 4x I don't care -- I want
> postscript print commands, not graphic images, for characters)
> 
> TMPLee@dockmaster.ncsc.mil

There should not be a problem, simply take the laserwriter driver and rename it  
to something else, like abaton :) then print to that through the serial port.   
To use the printer fonts simply look around for GS screen fonts that have the  
same name as the printer fonts and make sure font substitution is on.  Then it  
will look for the name of the font that you are using in the printer and if it  
can't find it another similar font will be substituted.  AWGS loves  
laserprinters in the page layout mode, especially graphics drwan while in the  
layout mode.  Don't expect graphics produced in the drawing section to look  
good, they won't as they are bitmapped.  I have done the font thing to a 1000  
dpi typesetter, that was great :).

BTW what did you pay for that clone PS printer?
--
Joseph Julicher at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
julichjh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Computer Engineering Major
Always looking for new toys for my 6 apples.
From: ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Is this a Teach bug or is it me?
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:17:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <9848@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu> jnomina@bgsu.edu (Aqualung) writes:
)In some article, ericm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland) writes:
)> arrow.  I click on the arrow to scroll, but when I release the button
)> to stop scrolling, it doesn't stop.  It will keep scrolling til it hits
)same exact thing has been happening to me in ReadyLink  (8-bit terminal

I have removed the Close View, Easy Access, Video Keyboard DAs and
still have the problem.  What I need to do is boot with the "No DAs/Inits"
and play with Teach for awhile and see if will occur in that envirooment.
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From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys6/ShowpicNDA anomaly
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:11:54 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr16.224003.13464@en.ecn.purdue.edu> cmm@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris M McKinsey) writes:
>In article <920416190641.281904@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes:
>>I won't call it a bug, since I don't know what the problem is, but it
>>seemed worth noting that the showpic.6 NDA has trouble in 3200 mode
>>working with SOME applications under sys 6, but not all.  It works fine
>
>It may be the same thing as I found when writing "Eye". It seems Finder 6.0
>has shadowing on ALL the time, and doesn't bother to make sure it's on after
>the first time it turned it on. 

Could this also be affecting the DragonWars GS title page?

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: x9999bns@maple.circa.ufl.edu (David Isaacson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: $DB-- auxtypes
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:32:32 GMT
Reply-To: X9999BNS%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

I have a question about the $DB-- auxtypes. Is it OK to go ahead and change
programs' auxtypes to $DB-- if they aren't already set to it but they are
desktop progs? If so, what do you set it to? I've seen $DB02, $DB07, etc...


David Isaacson           VAX:  Fraenhawk@maple.circa.ufl.edu
                               X9999BNS@maple.circa.ufl.edu

                         Unix: fhawk@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu
From: shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: APW, MPW, and Orca
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:23:56 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr6.104125.39069@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>ALL RIGHT!  We just got the System 6 Developer CD, Way Cool!

Ok, I take it back -- I guess it was mailed a while ago and got there now.
Anyhow, the technical documentation you seek is on the CD in multiple forms
(in MS-WORD format if you've got a Mac and want everything pretty or plain
text format).

>Also, what are the advantages of using MPW/GS over APW?  And, is it possible
>to write libraries in MPW/GS that can be used in APW or Orca and vice-versa.

Well, for starters:   MPW has Projector so you can keep track of changes you
                       made to a file and when.  You can also revert to older
                       versions of a source file if you want to.
                      MPW has the ability to have multiple windows to do
                       editing.  This, combined with a 2-page or portrait
                       display, is particularly handy.
                      You can buy fast hardware to run MPW.  With APW, you're
                       stuck going as fast as the accelerator you're using can
                       go.  It used to take about 4 1/2 minutes to do a
                       complete rebuild of the Finder on my IIci.  My Mac IIfx
                       does it about a minute faster, and my Quadra could
                       probably do it in half the time of the IIfx.

Actually, it's probably not a good thing to ask Apple-people about MPW -vs-
APW.  We're very biased (understatement -- and one of the reasons we're biased
is because we have the source code to everything, so if something breaks we can
fix it ourselves).

andy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: al186@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Subject: Re: GIF stuff...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:55:39 GMT


SHTR[D

shr vies has not had trouble with any of my gisfs...  dunno why
it won't work for you...

too bad it doesn't do color (hint, hint, ron...)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: Sys 6 and Transprog
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:29:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.032046.15675@en.ecn.purdue.edu> platkus@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus) writes:
>What are you talking about?  You won't have 1/3 the doc removed or all over
>the place.  Simply cut the formula out of formulate and paste it into your
>document.  Or, if you have a lot of formulas, simply create them all at once
>in Formulate, and then save them all to the RAM disk, and the as you type the
>doc, import them into it at the right places.  Then save the document, and
>forget about the stuff on the RAM disk.  Then you have everything in one
>document, and its just as simple as having Formulate in a desk accessory plus
>it doesn't hog all that memory that the DA would.

Why not just use a clipboard/scrapbook NDA? It's less "costly" than a
huge RAMdisk. (I cant afford to take anything out of my 4 meg!) And it's
less costly than a huge NDA. Hmmm.... Just a thought. :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Looking for GSymbolix demo
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:48:53 GMT

recently on this group there was a mention of a demo version of 
Gsymbolix.  I looked on Compuserve, America Online and Internet and the
closest I could find was a text file and a couple of screen dumps of
the program (on AOL).

If the program is on one of the three systems above, could you provide
a pointer?  If only on Genie, would someone mind sharing it?

Oh, one other thing I noticed.  There sure seems to be a lot more programs
and code on Compuserve and AOL which APPEARED to initiate on Comp.Binaries.Apple2
than there are programs appearing on CBA2 which initiated on CIS and AOL.

By that I mean when I see things appear in CBA2 and the author is the one
posting it, I consider that program initiating on CBA2.  And perhaps
it is just my misconception, but it seems like the things that I mentally
tag as 'initiating on CBA2' appear on CIS and AOL more frequently than
things there appear here.

I do see things semi-regularly which are tagged as 'originating on
AOL' or whatever .  That is great.  It is nice that folks who have
paid the $$ to download a package then upload it to CBA2 or a ftp site
for others to use.  I hope this trend continues.
-- 
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From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Wizardary's operating system
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:15:29 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
> jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us (John Hood) writes:

>>Ah, memories-- I worked for Sir-Tech on the IBM PC versions of these
>>and helped with the Apple II versions...
> 
>>We used a complete reimplementation of the Apple Pascal interpreter
>>and its supporting code.  We actually developed the Pascal code on an
>>8086 machine, running the Apple Pascal development system.  (It was
>>much faster there.)  The code on the distributed disks, however, was
>>all our own.  The disk format is the same, but it may be that System 6
>>is looking for identifying bytes in the bootstrap code.  Ours was
>>different, of course.

Not to mention that disk 1 of Heart of the Maelstrom has a legit Pascal 
directory (for an 800k disk, no less) but the other disks do not.  Any ideas
how to convert the whole thing to an 800k 3.5 inch disk ?
 
> Ah, maybe you can tell us then who wrote the copy protection, so we
> can hunt him down and kill him!  Even years later, that was still one
> of the worst programs to try to back up, even though I knew exactly
> what had to be done.  And the real bitch was that these were
> legitimate backups - I wore out more than one Wizardry disk.

I got so frustrated trying to make a backup of my wizardry disk (constantly
putting on and taking off that write protect tape time after time ...) that
I put a jumper across the sensor terminals on my external drive so it'll always
write.  That way, I wrote to the external drive onto the back side of a disk -
without a notch punched - and tested in on my internal drive.  This also is how
you can write onto a disk without a write protect notch punched in it.

I did, eventually, figure out a Copy II+ routine that worked almost all the
time.

- Jonathan
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From: bclark@amiganet.chi.il.us (Brian Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 6.0 easter eggs
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:59:59 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <1992Apr4.115332.27011@actrix.gen.nz>, ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan
Honey) writes:
> Any chance of getting enough info to generate a TIME CDEV that will handle
> 'local' daylight savings????
 
The Time CDEV already handles daylight savings.  Worked great this last
weekend. *^)   Now, boy I wish I had a way to tell how days there were left
until Christmas!  ;)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: mporter@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Mike, System Admin.)
Subject: Re: NEWS RELEASE: MDG INTRODUCES PROLINE 2.0
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/450-9394 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:19:07 GMT

In <1992Apr7.205752.28759@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein) writes:

>
>Well, I wouldn't say "Proline is one of the best" because, that is a matter 
>of your opinion.
>
>Ever been in the METAL Shell? It completley smokes Proline...

        Nobody in my area is even running a Metal BBS, so its kinda hard to
judge. We'll see how ProLine 2.0's new shell compares with Metal (guess I'll
have to find a metal system to try metal's shell).


>P.S. - It's also about 175$ cheaper..

        Seeing as how I'm posting this message from my ProLine, and you're
posting from your Cleaveland Freenet account, you get what you pay for, no?
While your Metal board plays with itself, my ProLine is bringing mail and
usenet news right to my desktop, automatically. Can't beat that! 

>Greg Boehnelin  - Sysop of Damage Incorporated (216)328-0374 - METAL!
>Internet: bj687@freenet.cwru.edu   r0942@vmcms.csuohio.edu




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From: unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6 trash icon -> other icons
Keywords: this may be a repeat.. went out w/out Distribution earlier
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32171
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr3.074247.18538@nuscc.nus.sg> ltchean@iss.nus.sg (lim thye
chean) writes:
>I am not sure whether it is System 6 fault, but try this (It works everytime
>for me):
>1. Under Finder 6.0, drag a NoiseTracker Amiga MOD song into trash can (icons
>   for NoiseTracker 1.0 must be installed).
>2. The trash can will always turn into the NoiseTracker Amiga MOD song icon.

        AHA!! Someone's having a similar problem.. I have the _same_ problem,
but not _every_ time.. Only "fairly frequently".. But whenever I try to show
Dave/Andy it doesn't happen (and/or I don't have GSBUG in).. It is/was doing it
for me with my GIF icon.. That is, the icon that runs LordHighGiffer..

        We can track this down... good..

        Is the NoiseTracker ICON the _first_ icon in an icon file?  What does
it match??
        Does it still happen when all extensions are turned off? (i.e. you
hit shift while booting and it says "No Inits/DAs")

        Reply to me in mail.. Anyone that has similar problems that are
at least _somewhat_ repeatable, please mail me too...  On the bug hunt!
[This is mainly my only "major" System 6 problem. It's kind of amazing how many
people are having problems]
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From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Question about Kermit, Apple IIe, 2400 baud modem, SSC ...
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:20:09 GMT
Reply-To: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Organization: Doug's House of Disco
Originator: dougmc@huey.cc.utexas.edu

Ok, here's the problem:

My hardware:
   Apple IIe unenhanced
   Super Serial Card
   80 column card
   2400 baud external modem, NON-hayes compatable.

The Software:
   Kermit-65(?) (or was it 69?)

The Problem:
   Losing characters.

I was running a 2400 baud modem with MNP 5 on this computer, with the serial
port locked at 4800 (so I could take advantage of the compression) and I had
the modem handling XON and XOFF's, and Kermit was sending them, and all was
well with the world.

But now that I need this modem for another computer, I hooked up my old 2400
baud modem to it, and it loses characters.  Not just at the beginnings of
lines, but sometimes inside them.  I tried enabling XON and XOFF flow control
with kermit, but the modem won't deal with it, and just sends it on through 
(it's a real stupid modem!  can't dial, or even connect at any speed other
than 2400 baud!)

So I pull out Ascii Express, and it works fine.  No lost characters.

But I prefer kermit - vt100 is FAR better than vt52.  So is the problem kermit?
I DO have interupts enabled, and they work.  The only thing I see that is 
different between running Kermit and AE is that with AE, the RTS light on
the modem is on, but with kermit, it is just flashes on each time I type
somthing.

It would appear that Kermit's serial card driver is at fault.  Anybody got
a solution ?

Thanks ...
   Doug

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian R Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Sound to Sound
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:34:45 GMT

Well, AudioZap 1.1.2 and later will gladly yank the resource fork of just
about anything so the Resource Spy part isn't really needed. :)

I've even tried this from real HFS format Mac-created disks and the res fork
yanked okay :)

Ian

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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Icons question
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:06:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32168
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr5.212411.39058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park) writes:
>A nifty dialogue that says "Map icon based on..." and gives several options
>might be nice for a System 6.x, but I can understand why it wasn't included
>in this version.  The way it is now already has my "Mac" friends slapping

	So people would be interested in a Finder Extension that does this?

	(Over the weekend, I had already added it to the list of cool_finder_
extension_ideas_that_I_probably_wouldn't_finish_because_I'm_too_lazy, but if
there is significant interest, I might put it at the head of the list, which
means it'd have a chance of being finished... heh heh)
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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Good stuff on System 6 CD?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:37:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65147
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr05.045036.38755@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> mcgovern@CS.ColoState.EDU (Mike McGovern) writes:
>I just installed quicklaunch, and am liking System 6 more then ever.
>What else is on the CD that isn't on Apple's FTP site?  Should I be
>able to get these things from my apple dealer? [...]

There's a bunch of stuff on the CD.  Dealers will -not- have the CD;
try Resource Central.
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My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: reeder@reed.edu (Doug Reeder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Serial port on Apple //c
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:01:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr14.090115.24926
Organization: Tether Propulsion Division, Institute of Knowledge, Jinx

In article <1992Apr9.214320.23303@fnbc.com> drew@fnbc.com writes:
-How does one set the baud rate on the built-in serial port on the //c from
-the Monitor?

Same as a Super Serial Card.  A typical sequence would be:

*IN#2

*<ctrl-A>8B                  ;for  1200 baud

*<ctrl-A>T                   ;enter dumb terminal mode

for 2400 baud it's <ctrl-A>10B, for 300 baud <ctrl-A>6B.




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