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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute kid "tricks"
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:50:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


     As we approach "trick or treat" season, I wondered what some of the
funniest tricks/pranks you or your kids have pulled are.  Everyone has
seen a tree toilet-papered, but what are some unusual ones?
     When I was really young, I used to enjoy sneaking into a room when
it was dark out and turning off the light, then runing out.  I also would
put ping-pong balls in the fridge so it looked like we had a few more eggs
than we actually did.
     My Uncle Tim did some really funny things wiring the house with his
electronics kit at about 7 or 8. (Noone can recall the exact age, and he says
he was close to 6 when he got it for Christmas, so he could have even been 6
when he did thest things.)  He put a small light in the breadbox,
for one thing. (Something he said every breadbox should have.)  He also
set up a chair so that, whenever someone sat in it, a buzzer would go off.
There were some other funny ones, but these are the most memorable to my
grandparents.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
From: sas@crosfield.co.uk (sharon sproat)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Death - Choked on a Peanut
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:51:48 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.


I just received a letter from a friend living in Seattle, WA. His 20 month
old daughter recently died from asphyxiation - she choked on a peanut.

We all know that small objects must always be kept away from children of this
age, but I think most of us violate this rule at times, especially if there 
are older children about.

Just wanted to remind everybody that occasional carelessness can lead to 
tragedy.


Sharon Sproat
sas@crosfield.co.uk

P.S. - somebody out there has a beautiful .sig along these lines:
"everybody you have loved becomes a part of you". Could you please send it
to me, with the author's name (if known)? Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters)
Subject: Re: _The American Way of Birth_
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:51:32 GMT


Whoops.  Looks like my newsreader burped -- sorry for the (possibly) multiple
posts.



--
--Mary Anne  
"What we have once enjoyed and deeply loved we can never lose, for all
that we love deeply becomes a part of us."  Helen Keller
                                                 [for Alexander]
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: farrell@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (tod farrell)
Subject: Nanny questions PLEASE
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:52:30 GMT

My wife and I will be interviewing a woman later
this week.  We would like any questions people think
are appropriate to ask a live in nanny.

Thankyou
Tod Farrell
farrell@mot.com


Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 06:46:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

You realize that this is showing a side of James that very few people have
ever seen before.....
Anyways- my $0.02 worth...
It is possible to get through to manhood without getting into fights- I've
only been in 1.5 (physical) fights in my entire life (I was in 1 fight, and
almost another, but it was broken up before it started). Using tact, brains,
once just plain speed, etc.
Is the the 'way to go'? I don't think so- competitiveness has its advantages
in the Human world.
When I have kids, I'm planning on teaching them to avoid physical confrontations
at all costs- but also on giving them the tools (a martial arts or boxing
class or something like that) to defend themselves properly if necessary. 
r.
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From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,sci.med
Subject: Re: high HCG results need net wisdom again
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:30:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: elroy.1992Oct15.223000.2343
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <445@bit.UUCP> lisa@bit.UUCP (Lisa Lowell) writes:
>
>		     Lisa

I tried responding, and it bounced back. Do you have a better address?
It is tough to discuss this thing on the net without starting a flamefest.

Laura Floom
From: janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:39:21 GMT
Subject: Re: 10-year-old ostracized at school
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: misc.kids

>of course, if someoen out there has actually found somethign
>that HELPS in this sort of situation,i would be glad to hear
>it as well.  because this is one case where even afterthought
>doesn't help...  for me, anyway...

I already expressed my opinion in private mail to Mary, but in 
answer to this request, I'll restate it here.  The answer is
(drum-roll) self-defense training.  Okay, you misc.kids folks
are probably sick of hearing from me on this subject, but once
again I have to say:  try it, it works!  I myself am a graduate
of Model Mugging training, and this was the best investment in
myself that I ever made.  While self-defense training might not
be an immediate cure for a particularly nasty situation at school,
it will help build self-confidence and self-esteem as well as
provide another social outlet, and this is a step in the right
direction.  As the politicians would say: "Trust me on this one!".

Jane Marcus
jane@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Nostalgia TV (was Nostalgia toys)
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:49:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.061700.18696@csc.canberra.edu.au> Stacey Curtis <sec@softserver.canberra.edu.au> writes:
>vicki@mathcs.emory.edu writes:
>>Okay, 'fess up, any other women reading this who wanted to be Marcia
>Brady?  

No, but like many almost-but-not-quite-pubescent boys of the time, I
had the hots for her.

>No, I wanted to be Sabrina in Bewitched, Jeannie in I Dream of Jeanie,
>the eldest daughter (I forget her name, was it Judy?, she was in love
>with Dan?) in Lost in Space,

Judy.  She was in love with Don.

I wanted to be Will Robinson.  Unfortunately, I'm rapidly turning into
Doctor Smith.

>I was really nuts over  "The  Banana Splits" show, Anyone remember that?

You mean Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snorky?  Nah, I don't remember them
at all.

The fact that TV comprises the majority of my childhood memories makes
me all the more confident that we're doing the right thing by severely
limiting Sarah's tube time.

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
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From: jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Judi Mancuso)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Birthday Ideas (in need of)
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UeokiLW00iV342v2ch
	<1992Oct6.050500.13627@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Bill is looking for b-day party ideas for a 2 year old--

When my son turned 2 (5 years ago), we had a litle party at McDonald's
and I thought this was perfect for him.  He was just beginning to love
McDonald's at the time and he thought that was a treat.  This particular
McDonald's has a small children's play area  which contained the kids
pretty well.  We had about 5-6 kids (21 months-4 years) and it lasted 2
hours.  About 15 minutes was spent greeting everyone and getting them
seated, half hour was spend ordering food and eating it, 15 minutes was
spent singing happy birthday and opeing presents, about half hour was
some organized games (a McDonald's employee does this),another l5
minutes was spent eating cake then the kids had about half hour free
time to play.  It was really inexpensive, saved my house from the mess,
the kids enjoyed it (so did my husband and I), the birthday boy just
loved it!, and I did not have to come up with all these activities and
manage them.  Vince (my son) felt even more special because I found him
a red sweatshirt and painted yellow arches on it, his name, his age and
birthdate on it.  It was really cute and all the other parents really
made a huge fuss over it.  Oh, and at this party, all the kids got a
balloon and a treat bag frm McDonald's.  Have fun whatever you do.  Judi
From: elise@ticipa.pac.sc.ti.com (Elise Wade)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Getting pregnant while nursing
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:27:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ticipa.1992Oct12.172728.4036
Organization: Texas Instruments

In article <1992Oct7.193735.13934@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes) writes:
>
>Believe it or not, I know *2* women who got pregnant only a few months
>after giving birth and while nursing because for some silly reason
>they "thought" that they could *not* get pregnant while nursing!
>Thus each has 2 children that are 11(?) and I think 15(?) months apart.
>
>Your period does *not* have to return for you to be fertile.
>So, at least for these 2 women, nursing did not have a negative effect
>on the chance of conceiving.  
>
>Christine
>mom-2-b in Jan. '93
>

Well, actually it is possible to nurse full-time & have your
period start up 4 weeks after the birth date. (BOO!)  It happened
to me.  Ah well, at least I have no illusions about nursing
providing birth control.

Elise.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: dwp@cactus.org (Deborah Platt)
Subject: First story time at the library
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:56:43 GMT

Deanna (20 mos) and I just went to her first story time at
the library last week.  The story time was geared for
toddlers 18 mos and up.  Deanna behaved differently than
all the other kids there, so I want to run this by you.

First the story teller put together a clown on a felt board,
and then she read from two books.  Although we read a lot of
books at home, it was obvious that these books, or the setting,
or the way they were being read made them uninteresting to her,
and she was getting bored.  Anyway, at first she stood up,
which I didn't see any harm in, then she went over and stuck
her name tag on the felt board.  I chased her down and brought
her back.  Then she wanted to sit on the ledge that the story
teller was sitting on (The audience area was one step lower).
I didn't see anything wrong with this, but I could tell that the story
teller didn't like it, so I got up and reigned her in again.
Then as the half hour wore on, she wanted to examine the felt board
more closely, look to see what was behind it, touch it, etc.

So now I am wondering whether Deanna was being disruptive
or not.  I thought that she was showing a lot of natural curiosity,
and of course she has no idea what an "audience" is, or how you
are supposed to behave as a member of an audience.  But then the other
kids weren't doing that, so I don't know.  Do you think that
she's not developmentally ready for this yet?  Should I wait a while
before trying again?  Should I go anyway, but leave as soon as she
seems to be getting bored?  How do you teach someone of this age
that as a member of an audience, they are supposed to observe, and
not get involved or participate.  To complicate things, we are just 
hitting the terrible twos and I'm not experienced enough with this yet 
to know quite what to do.  For instance, a couple of times when I was
leading her away from things she wasn't supposed to be messing with,
she would holler "No" and fall to the floor in true civil disobedience
style.  Any thoughts or comments are welcome.  So far, she has
been remarkably well-behaved in other public settings, such as
restaurants and stores, so I was a bit surpised to having some
problems in this particular setting.

BTW when I told my husband that the story-telling session hadn't
gone as smoothly as I had hoped, he said, "She didn't
run up to the reader, yank the book out of her hands, and say 
"Deanna's book" did she?"  Well, not yet at any rate :-).

Deb Platt
-- 

========================================================================
Deb Platt
dwp@cactus.org		cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!dwp
From: JUTTA.LAGE@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jutta Lage")
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: RE: Far apart in age
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:34:12 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

RE: Far apart in age
I am expecting my second child (at the age of 34)  in February. My daughter is
13 years old. What are experiences with such a siblings relationsship? Anyone i
n the same situation?
Jutta
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From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:34:10 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1222@elan.Elan.COM> lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis) writes:
>When the bully topic came up on one Quaker computer group I am
>on, someone said that he was bullied until he *stopped*
>fighting back.  So I also think it is an old wives' tale that
>fighting back stops bullying.

>I suspect that discouraging bullying requires a multi-faceted
>approach: sometimes encouraging a misfit child to develop new
>skills, sometimes disciplining the bullies, sometimes attending
>to problems the bullies may be having, and sometimes restructuring
>the school environment to avoid things which make a child
>stand out in a bad way (e.g. having children choose teams and
>leave some to the humiliation of being children last, nominating
>a well-behaved child to monitor a worse-behaved child, and thereby
>earn that child's resentment - both things which happened to me,
>and could have been avoided).

>Lynn Gazis-Sax

Honey, the only thing that could have stopped the bullying I went 
through would have been a race transplant, OK? I find it fascinating 
to this day that the bullying STOPPED once I chose to get Cs and Ds
instead of As. When I went back to my 20th year reunion, a number
of people expressed the opinion that they had always thought that
my 'white blood' really showed until puberty, when my grades fell,
and I became more what they expected of an Amerindian.

-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
From: gelman@wallabee.lbl.gov (Frida Gelman)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names (don't do this to your kids)
Date: 8 Oct 1992 14:31:48 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: gelman@wallabee.lbl.gov (Frida Gelman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.49

	Just one more for you. When I got my citizenship a few years
back I was sworn in by Judge Lynch.

--
Frida Gelman 
All opinions are those of the author
gelman@imasun.lbl.gov
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder Resources
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:14:50 GMT

In article <16873@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.120925.12713@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>>
>>	I have an MD, and an RN.  All your favorite people.
>
>Which doesn't prevent you from being an IDIOT.
>
> -km
	Nor from being right.


-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Flu Shot While Pregnant
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:14:14 GMT


Well I went and got the shot.  I also asked the doctor
there for the packet insert and she readily gave it to me.
She didn't ask if I was pregnant, just if I had any allergies
to eggs and if I was sick at the moment.  The insert said:
"It is undesirable to delay vaccination of pregnant women who
have high-risk conditions and who will still be in the first
trimester of pregnancy when the influenza season begins."

Later it said:
"Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza
Virus Vaccine USP Trivalent, Types A and B.  It is not known whether
Influenza Virus Vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to
a pregnant woman or can affect reprodution capacity.  Influenza Virus
Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed."

Under clearly needed are:
1. Persons >= 65 years of age.
2. Residents of nursing homes and other chronic-care facilities
housing persons of any age with chronic medical conditions.
3. Adults and children with chronic disorders of the pulmonary
or cardiovascular systems, including children with asthma.
4. Adults and children who have required regular medical follow-up
or hospitalization during the preceding year because of chronic
metabolic diseases (including diabetes mellitus), renal dysfunction,
hemoglobinopathies, or immunosuppression (including immunosuppression
caused by medications).
5. Children and teenagers (y months to 18 years of age) who are
receiving long-term aspirin therapy, and therefore may be at
risk for developing Reye syndrome after influenza.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: zippy@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (steven.s.albert)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Complete sentences
Summary: do what comes naturally
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:54:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Oct8.233848.4548@Cadence.COM>, syoung@Cadence.COM (Scott Young) writes:
> I have a question, A lot of the posts I have read indicate that children
> around the age of 24-28 months speak in complete sentences. I have a 27
> month old daughter , She speaks in complete sentences only when she is
> <stuff deleted> 
> Again I'm just looking for some good hints on teaching , I feel it is
> very important to spend time with her and teach her as much as I can.
> I also enjoy it very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is only 1 data point, but all we do with Billy is talk to him
naturally and read to him a lot (he *loves* being read to).  The rest
he did on his own.  At this point (he's 28 months) he is quite capable
of carrying on a conversation (often a bizarre one :-)).  One fun thing
we do is talk on the phone and he'll tell me what he's been doing while
I'm at work.  The true test of how well a child is speaking is whether
or not others can understand him/her.  Billy is able to communicate with
others besides us, so his vocabulary and enunciation are good enough.
To be honest, though, many times you have to have the right context to
understand what he's saying.  It's easier to talk to Billy if you are familiar
with Thomas the Tank Engine :-)

I find this stage a blast.  At 21 months, Billy hardly spoke at all - still
the single word stage.  Literally, in 2 weeks, he started putting multiple
words together, and then proceeded to rudimentary sentences.  That skill
keeps getting refined to the point where he now will even make jokes!  It's
easy to forget he's only 2.  Enjoy!

	Steve Albert (Billy's dad [28 months])
	ssa@usl.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
Subject: Re: Rubbing backs to put children to sleep
Reply-To: hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:07:45 GMT

In article 1b33tvINN9a8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, bl213@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (K. C. Kelly) writes:
>
>Re: 4 year old daughter's class went down for their naps without
>having their backs rubbed...
>  
>There are daycares/pre-schools who actually require 4 year olds
>to take naps?  That *must* be a challenge, since kids that age
>have so often outgrown the need for naps long ago.  My guess is
>it the teachers who need naps and therefore ask the pre-schoolers
>to do the same.


I believe that it is the law for pre-schools (up to, not including
kindergardens), at least in California.  I questioned this once last
year when my son was in Pre-K and the answer was that they are required
to do this by law.  Interesting enough, since my son is going to the
same school for kindergarden and they mix the Pre-K groups and
Kindergarden after the school part is done (1:00) they wanted the
Kindergarden students to lie down with the Pre-K.  I registered a
compliant since this keeps my son wide eyed and bushy tailed until
10-11pm.  I pointed out to the director that my son was no longer
required to take a nap since he was in kindergarden and she agreed to
give him books and drawing material during the nap time instead.  

In reality, they (the two preschools my son was in) usually just
required that the pre-schoolers stay on their cot/mat and be quiet.
Some kids sleep, some just listen to the soft music until it is time to
get up.

I suspect the teachers do in fact need it as much as some of the kids, but
I don't believe the reasons for the nap are because of it.

---
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Buffy Hyler (hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com)
SAIC, Campus Point
San Diego, California
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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Remembering Dreams/Cute Things (2 yrs)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:57:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dlin@weber.ucsd.edu (Diane Lin) says:

>In article <73363@apple.Apple.COM> scott@Apple.COM (scott douglass) writes:
>>smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Oct9.190826.24365@linus.mitre.org>, kvt@willow.mitre.org writes:
>>>> Has anyone else had a very sleepy 2 year old
>>>> wake up and express what you know had to be
>>>> a dream?  I have trouble remembering mine 
>>>> sometimes, I sure didn't expect my daughter
>>>> to remember her's yet. Is this common?
>
>Just yesterday, as Dylan woke up from his nap, he said "I go with!"  
>He said this several times in a plaintive voice, and I tried to get
>Dylan to expand on that thought (go with whom?  where?), but he
>just shook his head as if *I* were nuts, and proceeded to tickle the
>cat.

     My remembers me wondering what I was doing when I was about 3.5.
I woke up complaiing loudly: "I wanna watch Sesame Street!  I don't wanna
go with you, I wanna stay here and watch T.V.!!!"  My mom says she figures I
had awakened myself from a dream that morning, as a split second later I went:
"Huh?!" in a normal voice, followed by: "All right, what's going on here?!"
I guess I figured that somehow, some stream of time had been broken, and it
had gone from early afternoon to marning in a fraction of a second.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain