HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: atari emacs and ^M
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:42:41 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st.tech: 3-Sep-92 atari emacs and
^M Jens Kinzel@ibr.cs.tu-bs (719)

> Hi !

> I just managed to pass the dungle installing emacs under MiNT (and
> after a short period of happiness), I feel it's nasty that atari-emacs
> can't handle '^M' EOL charakters by default. This editor isn't vewry
> useful, when can't handle EOL's (or when it should be too difficult to
> handle 'em). So I think there must be someone who wondered about this
> problem like me, or has just solved it!
> 							bye, Jens
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jens Kinzel                                            God is real
> Institut fuer Betriebssysteme und Rechnerverbund       unless he is integer
> kinzel@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

You're right: if you've got the 18.58 release, the elisp code is
even included. It is part of the machine specific files like
atari.el (for the cursor key and such) and is called msdos.el
or msstuff.el or something like that !

If you don't have 18.58, try to get it (it was in a.a  /atari/new 
but I can't remember the name): it is much easier to install
and is a bit more complete.

	Stefan Monnier

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From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: 24 pin screen dumps
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:03:55 GMT
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article 8226@pbhya.PacBell.COM, dbsuthe@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Daniel B. Suthers) writes:

>I agree that an 'jet type printer is best for graphics, but I humbly submit
>that there is a place for fast dot matrix printers.
>I use both, with the main job of the dot matrix being to print programs and
>documentation on fan-fold paper.  It is much easier (for me) to use printouts
>that continue from one page to the next and always stay in sequence.  A simple
>A/B switchbox allows me to go from one to the other as needed.

Ah, yes... I forgot about program listings.  I use my old tried-and-true Epson
FX-80 for that.  But you don't need a 24-pin unit for printouts, do you?  In
my mind, speed and low-cost is of the essence for that kind of job.

>On the subject of jet printers, its also possible to get 'personal' duty
>laser printers for less than $500 now, so they might be an alternative to
>using INK technology.  Personal duty being 4 pages per minute or so, like the
>Okidata model.

Also agreed, but prospective buyers should beware of lasers that are TOO cheap.
The inkjets are a good compromise but if you can find a great deal on a laser
with the emulations and features you need, then jump on it!


___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: mark.thomas@rose.com (mark thomas)
Subject: LASER C PRINTING
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:28:36 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 08-31-92 03:17
     How does you output to the printer using the UNIX commands? (I
don't want to use Bconout). I want to use the formated routines such
as fprintf(); 
 
     If I use  fprintf(stdout,format,args) output is sent to the
screen. 
 
     If I use fprintf(stderr,format,args) output is also sent to the
screen. 
 
     There is not a "stdprt" defined in Laser C. 
 
Mark 
 


* MMST 2.09 UnRegistered
From: lfoul@terapin.com (Jake McClean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: I've an odd little problem...
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:23:58 PST
Organization: BBS

When booting up one's ST, doesn't one usually switch the monitor on first? 
I've been doing this for quite a long time now, but it doesn't seem to work
anymore.  Let me explain.  If I switch on my monitor, then my 1040st, the
screen will stay totally black, and when the desktop appears, it will be
colored some odd purple, be totally twisted an bent looking, and after about
half a second, will dissapear altogether.  BUT, if I then proceed to switch the
monitor off, and then on again, everything looks peachy-keen.  Argh.
I've got a 1040st, SC1224 color monitor, a DS internal drive, and a SF314
hooked up as a second drive.  Any ideas on what's up with my ever-so-odd
monitor problem?

lfoul@terapin.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi)
Subject: Re: Detecting GDOS presence
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:46:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.005621.8575@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> hartlenk@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Kenneth W Hartlen) writes:

> Lattice  C v5.x provides a Lattice specific VDI  function  called 
> vq_gdos()  which returns 0 if GDOS is not loaded and non-zero  if 
> GDOS is loaded.
> 
> The  description  says "This function does not have  an  official 
> name  but  uses  an Atari approved  method  for  determining  the 
> presence  of GDOS." Anyone know what the "approved method" is  so 
> GDOS presence can be checked from Heat & Serve/Sozobon C?

i seem to recall seeing an atari document that used the same name:
here is what i have from the gcc gemlib: it should be easy to adapt to
whatever: ( __MSHORT__ is defined when compiling for 16 bit integers)

int
vq_gdos(void)
{
  register int retvalue __asm__("d0");

#ifdef __MSHORT__
  __asm__ volatile
    ("	movw	#-2,d0
	trap	#2
	cmpw	#-2,d0
	sne	d0
	extw	d0"
     : "=r"(retvalue)		/* output */
     :				/* no input */
     : "d0", "d1", "d2", "a0", "a1", "a2"    /* clobbered regs */
     );
#else
  __asm__ volatile
    ("	movw	#-2,d0
	trap	#2
	cmpw	#-2,d0
	sne	d0
	extw	d0
	extl	d0"
     : "=r"(retvalue)		/* output */
     :				/* no input */
     : "d0", "d1", "d2", "a0", "a1", "a2"    /* clobbered regs */
     );
#endif

  return retvalue;
}

/*
 * return type of GDOS
 * -2L	 no GDOS installed
 *  0x5F46534DL	 '_FSM' gdos
 *  0x5F464E54L	 '_FNT' gdos
 */
unsigned long vq_vgdos(void)
{
    register unsigned long ret __asm__("d0");
    __asm__ volatile ("
 	movq	#-2,d0
 	trap    #2"
	  : "=r"(ret)
          :
          : "d0", "d1", "d2", "a0", "a1", "a2" );
    return ret;
}

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: amos@prl.dec.com (Samos)
Subject: Snork Demo, bis, and ter.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:05:34 GMT


The Snork demo has been or will be in a few hours uploaded
in the atari.archive.unmich.edu..

It is a 2 disks demo, and, surprise !

Samos.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: andre@cix.compulink.co.uk (Cygnus Software Ltd)
Subject: Detecting 'Carrier Detect' line
Reply-To: andre@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:21:10 +0000

Can someone tell me a *legal* way to test the 'Carrier Detect' status of
a modem on an RS232 serial port? The method must be able to work for all
serial ports which support the DCD line (including the additional Mega-STE/
TT ones). I assume this rules out using the MFP interrupt - and anyway, I
just want to test for it periodically, rather than have an interrupt handler
continuously monitoring it.

Thanks,

Andre

Andre Willey                       |  Email: andre@cix.compulink.co.uk
7 Oaklands Road, Sutton Coldfield, |         andre@cix.uucp
West Midlands, B74 2TB, England.   |         ...{mcsun}!uknet!cix!andre
Phone: (UK) 021-308-5251           |  "Il est mort, Jean Luc..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Subject: Help needed with general printing questions
Organization: Dicomed, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:53:08 GMT


I have two printers: Okidata 182 Turbo and HP Paintjet (on loan to me).  
I have had the hardest time doing anything meaningful with these printers
as far a graphics output etc.  I am especially frustrated about the 
PaintJet because I know it is capable of some incredible output given
the correct software.  

First:  GDOS/FontGDOS
I have installed FontGDOS, but still haven't any real clue on what to do with
it!  I assume that in order to make use of it, I need a program that is 
specifically written to use GDOS.  Is this the correct assumption?  Then I
guess I would have to start collecting fonts?   I have read the "GDOS.DOC"
and most everything else I can find on the subject, but I'm missing something
somewhere.  Maybe I need a demo.

Crackart:
Any printer drivers available?  I love this program and need to get on the
stick and send those gentlemen some Deutch Marks!

Regards,
Doug Plate Sr. <-(Note the new addition to the name?)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: hysky@polaris.utu.fi (j.h.husgafvel)
Subject: STE specific info needed!
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:02:22 GMT

I am to become a proud owner of STE. However I don't have any
information about ste's new features (mainly graphics and sound).
Pointers and/or information would be greatly appreciated.

And one technical question: what may I connect to those audio ports? I
have a pair of active speakers, is there any easy possibility
connecting those (meant to be connected to haedphone port) without
frying anything...

Thanks in advance,
/hysky   hysky@utu.fi     j.h.husgafvel
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st.tech:4685 comp.sys.atari.st:13213
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Zmodem 1.62 (J. Bammi version) compiling problems.
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <172DqB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget) writes:
>healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy) writes:
>
>- 
>- If you have your dependencies set up correctly, touching your .c files
>- so that they have a more recent date ought to generate a recompile by
>- make. You can always remove your .o files and then make has to recompile
>- them.
>- 
>- Makefiles are ugly beasts to hack (I'm thinking UNIX and VME systems
>- mostly) but once you get it set up, make sure makes life easier.
>- 
>- Mike
>- 
>- healy@cod.nosc.mil
>- 
>
>I agree.  After I finally got the dates set up correctly, I was able to 
>get make to work on the file a little.  It compiles the .c files to their 
>..o state (automagically using Sozobon for some reason) and then exits.  
>Then I have to link the files (using Alcyon).
>
>It works, though!
>
>I could have avoided the date problems if I had just left the dates the 
>way they were in the archive before editing the files.  Then I could have 
>just changed the one I wanted to work on and ran MAKE on it.
>
>
><<  ------------------------------------------  >>
><<        mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca          >>
><<  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  >>
><<               Michel Forget                  >>
><<   The Key:  Spirit over mind over matter.    >>
><<  ------------------------------------------  >>
>

Tell me why are you messing around with out of date Zmodem stuff, Zmodem is now
upto version 3, but then again the source code is no longer free...

So to get the Zmodem (90) contact Omen Technologies and it wiil cost you some 
$90 us...

Roger............           sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: cse0947@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: UUE files & What is Mint?
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:00:05 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

What do I need to decode a uue file?

I have a Mega2 ST and have been using just GEM (Tos 1.2). Can Mint0.9x run
comfortable on my system? Why would anyone switch from GEM to Mint? Can I
still run my GEM/TOS programs from the MInt shell?

cse0947@Desire.Wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: amos@prl.dec.com (Samos)
Subject: $118 ..
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:43:26 GMT

What is bad in touching to $fffc02 ?
you do not need to write 2 or 3 differents routines
in the 200Hz vector, keyboard vector and I don't know what else..
From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Vanishing partitions
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:03:13 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario


Well, after thinking "it'll never happen to me", it has. I can't access
any partitions on my hard disk. I was working on a program for a few
hours (of course), compiled it, ran it, and boom, 4 bombs, machine reboots,
and I'm looking at just drive A and B icons. I tried some obvious things,
cold boot, turning computer off and on after a while, no go. Ok, powered
down everything for 1 minute, then hard drive on, then computer on, same
thing, just A and B icons. So I figured the boot sectors on drive C must
have been zapped, so I ran ICDBOOT.PRG from a floppy, it seems happy,
I install a drive C icon, click on it, get "Drive does not exist...".

So, in summary, I can't get at any partitions on the drive. Can anybody
suggest something? Surely I haven't lost all the partitions? I don't care
if I lose the C partition, it's backed up. But the whole drive? I don't
want to start repair/recover utilities until I try some other alternatives.

Hardware: ICD ADSCSI+ adaptor, ICD software, Maxtor 120 meg scsi disk.

advTHANKSance.
- kn
--

Old programmers never die, they just log off.

ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 13:09:04 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DSP in the Falcon
	<1992Sep1.102748.29585@aber.ac.uk>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st.tech: 1-Sep-92 Re: DSP in the
Falcon Herbert Martin Sauro@abe (1185)

> In article <469@muller.loria.fr> eker@loria.crin.fr (Steven Eker) writes:

> I assume that the 56001 can only deal with integers (i.e no floating
> point), is this true?

> Herb
> -- 
> /******************************************************************************
>  Herbert Sauro                                   e-mail: hrs@aber.ac.uk
> Biological Sciences                              phone: +44 970 622353
> Univesity College of Wales                                                    


Well, it is almost true: it can deal with fix-point but not floating point !

	Stefan Monnier

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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: DSP in the Falcon
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:18:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <H.H8xksAVnXI6@kynes.bison.mb.ca> rdo@kynes.bison.mb.ca writes:
>There has been several threads discussing how great it is to have DSP in
>the Falcon.  I have read all these articles, but don't have a clue what DSP
>is or what it does?
>
>Can someone enlighten me?
>-- 
>____________________________________________________________________________
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>| \`o.0'  |  rdo@kynes.bison.mb.ca
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>|    U    |  A closed mouth gathers no foot.
>|_________|_________________________________________________________________

The Motorola 56001 DSP is a general purpose Digital Signal Processor.
Probably the easiest way to think of a DSP is as an ultrafast math
coprocessor.  The NeXT uses the same DSP and uses it to do things such
as emulating high-speed modems (a 9600-14400+bps Fax/modem is in the 
works for the Falcon for around $100), handling high quality digital
audio, and various other tasks.  The NeXT is a popular research 
workstation due to the abilities of the DSP in calculating large amounts
of data.  There's also talk of using the Falcon's DSP for decoding and
outputting Dolby Surround Sound.  The DSP could also be used to make
flight simulators which rival even the best arcade games (ever see STEEL
TALONS?).


Steve
From: sslee@micromed.com (Steven Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: hooking up an external disk drive
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 04:42:50 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic  - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

I'm having trouble with my Atari 1040ST, TOS 1.4 recognize my external
disk drive.  When I try to get the disk directory, it would display:
   Drive B: is not responding
   Please check the disk drive
   or insert a disk.

The disk is okay on my internal drive.  The drive mechanism is a
TEAC drive.  There are a bunch of jumper settings which I have
no idea what it should be set to.

They are US1, US0, RE, M1, M0, MS, D3, D2, D1, D0, and FG.  I
figure the D0-D3 are the drive selectors, but I don't know about
the rest of them.  Currently, I've closed the MS, D0, and FG
jumpers.  Any ideas what it should really be set to.


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Micro-Medic BBS                                                (408)279-5240
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From: as327@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roy Bixler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: GNU make 3.62 at atari.archive
Date: 3 Sep 1992 15:07:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: as327@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roy Bixler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I just downloaded version 3.62 of GNU make and there seems to be a problem
with the executable .ttp file.  I tried to execute it both under plain
Gulam and under Bash 1.05 in MiNT.  The results were the same - it said
that "c:\bin\make.ttp: file not found".  This is absurd because if I do an
'ls' command on that file, it IS there.  If I specified the full pathname
"c:\bin\make.ttp", I get either the "file not found" rubbish or a -39
return code (under Gulam) or "memory exhausted".  Anyone have any ideas? 
Maybe the 'make-362.zoo' file needs to be uploaded again.  Meanwhile, I
suppose I'll go back to make 3.60 (which I don't look forward to, since in
the middle of building big source directories like the GNU library, it
aborts on a "virtual memory exhausted" error and needs to be re-started).

Thanks.

P.S.  Since Frank Ridderbusch did this port, I tried sending this to him
first, but it bounced.
-- 
Roy Bixler
Internet: as327@cleveland.freenet.edu -or- rbixler@nyx.cs.du.edu
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
From: vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Falcon 030 ? nah wait the 040 !
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:28:17 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

In <BtC3yq.552@acsu.buffalo.edu> chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.083142.16355@prl.dec.com> amos@prl.dec.com (Samos) writes
>>and to buy a falcon at 16Mhz 030 is to buy an 'under-TT device'..
>>so wait for the high technology, and buy the falcon 040 !
>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^
>Do we *know* there will even be one? (Rumors don't count.)

If nobody's going to buy the Falcon030 because everybody's waiting for a
Falcon040 then there certainly won't be one. Why should Atari release a
"follow-up" to a machine that doesn't sell?

Stefan

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From: schaerer@isibee (Thomas Schaerer)
Subject: Re: GFA Basic 3.5E mouse problem
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:31:09 GMT

Steven Selick (selick@csa.bu.edu) wrote:
: 
: I typed in the pulldown menu excerpt that they list in the manual word
: for word, and I always get about a 1 X 1 inch box in the upper left
: corner where the pointer turns to a hand. My Perfect Pitch program works
: fine, however it looks sloppy. Any ideas?

Look at any accessory you have installed and/or auto-directory-programms 
you have startet by booting. It' s possible one or more of these program-
mes make such problems. I hope I can help you. Please make a Reply direct
to my mail-address. I'm interested.
	* *
	* *	Thomas   (schaerer@isi.ethz.ch)
	* *
       *   *
     *       *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: "Jon P Baker" <jpbaker@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Falcon Specifications
Summary: What are the specs of the Falcon
Keywords: FALCON
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:10:57 -0500

I heard that Atari has a new computer out and I would be very interested
in seeing the specifications on it and what OS it will run. I need
to upgrade my system and I am comparing what is currently availible.
Any information is appreciated. (I was hoping to catch the specs by
reading the ST group, but I missed that part of the Falcon discussions.)

Jon

-- 
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       Computer Science Major, Indiana University Bloomington  
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From: george@electro.electro.com (George Reimer)
Subject: snork demo
Organization: Electrohome Ltd., Kitchener, ON, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:29:59 GMT

>
>ps: the snork demo is available.. get it at the atari messe !
>

	This demo sounds interesting. What is it about?
	Where is 'atari messe' ?
	Do any of the BBS carry it?

thanks

-- 

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From: ridderbusch.pad@sni-usa.com (Frank Ridderbusch, STO SI211)
Subject: Changes for Emacs 18.57 for MiNT Lib pl20
X-Md4-Signature: 515e4a4f5fe0f617599ba580d2d2d2ce
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:39:33 GMT

No so long a ago someone posted some diffs to compile the GNU Emacs
port from Erling Henanger with the MiNT libraries at pl20.

Can he please get in touch with me or send me the diffs. 

Thanx.
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