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From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: K R Narayanan elected VeeP
Keywords: KR Narayanan Vice President
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:52:09 GMT


apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) - Kocheril Raman Narayanan was elected
Wednesday as India's ninth vice president, the highest office ever
achieved by a member of the untouchable caste.
	   Although he has had a distinguished career as a teacher,
journalist, diplomat and Cabinet minister, Narayanan was chosen
because he belongs to the community of untouchables, the lowest
category of the millenia-old Hindu caste system.
	   Modern India has tried to eradicate the system of
religion-supported discrimination, but it remains deeply
entrenched. Members of low castes and tribespeople comprise a
downtrodden quarter of India's 844 million people.
	   ``It intrigues me when people say I am a unanimous choice
because of my caste. We are actually outcasts. And we would like to
see the caste system totally abolished,'' Narayanan told the India
Today magazine.
	   The vice presidency has only ceremonial functions.
	   Narayanan, 71, was the candidate of the governing Congress Party
but was backed by all other parties in Parliament, which elected
him with 700 of the 711 votes cast.
	   Kaka Joginder Singh, his lone opponent, got one vote, and 10
ballots were declared invalid.
	
------------------
personal note:
	krn had chai in my humble apt a decade ago when he came to the
2nd oldest college in US to give a talk on gandhi's b'day celeb. i was
quite taken by him (and his burmese wife Ma Tin Tin) - very soft spoken
and erudite. 
cheers,
bala
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dgupta@us.oracle.com (Deepak Gupta)
Subject: Names of few top schools offerring P.hd in Molecular biology.
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:02:03 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Hi Everyone,

        A frind of mine in India wants a list of few top schools offerring P.hd
in Molecular biology. Could you send me some information on this. Could you
also mention that how difficult is it to get assistance ship there. I would
really appreciate a quick response.

Thanks in advance.
Deepak Gupta
-- 
 Deepak Gupta

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:37:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.153932.22266@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>
>What about the pibroch? I thought it was something one wore under a
>kilt? ;-)

A pibroch is a musical theme for the bagpipes, Mr. Mozart.
I would be very curious to know how one would wear this, especially
under a kilt :-)

>
>George

**sridhar**



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Subject: Re: Curious observation,: Pibroch
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:05:33 GMT

Samit Banerjee (banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug21.192647.9212@newshub.sdsu.edu> sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang) writes:
: >: 
: >
: >No comments. The topic has gone away from the original discussion.
: >I close my side of the argument.
: >Srinath
: >
: Oh,oh there goes another interesting flame war. Sad to see people chicken
: out despite the clarion call to adhere to family values:-) 
: Watch for the demand for soc.culture.indian-family-stories to surface soon.
: Samit
:  
No I didn't chicken out. Time was not on my side. 
I had too many other things to attend to now that start of school is but 
a week away.....
Moreover the discussion was going far away from the original topic and i didn't want it getting personal on the net.
There is something called nettiqutte that I am trying to add to my personal
dictionary.

Srinath

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sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu

I Don't believe what I say, and whatever I say is wrong.....
								SS 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rr2@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran)
Subject: Fellowship Available in Structural Mechanics (U.S. Citizens only)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:44:21 GMT




           FELLOWSHIP  OPPORTUNITY  IN STRUCTURAL  MECHANICS
          --------------------------------------------------


	A fellowship for a duration of three years is available for advanced 
work in the field of "Composite Structural Mechanics" in the department of 
Civil Engineering, Washington University in St. Louis. The fellowship would pay a monthly stipend not less than $ 1500 a month and full tution. 
Only U.S. Citizens are eligible. We are seeking a Civil or Mechanical 
Engineering graduate student interested in pursuing a doctoral program. 

	The fellowship is awarded by the Office of Naval Research undr the 
EPSCoR ( Experimental Program to Stimulate Competitive Research) and is attached
to a parent ONR Grant awarded to Professor S. Sridharan. 


	Interested candidates please contat either

        Ms. Sonya Reed @ (314)-935-6303   Or
        Prof. S. Sridharan (314)-935-6348.

Mailing Address:

		Department of Civil Engineering
		Campus Box 1130
		Washington University
		St. Louis, MO 63130.



Note:  Please do not email your responses to my account. I am only posting this
       on behalf of Prof. Sridharan.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kapadia@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Nirav Kapadia)
Subject: REQUEST for travel agent summary
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:20:26 GMT


Hi!!

	Can someone please send me a copy of the travel agent summary ??
My email address is "kapadia@ec.ecn.purdue.edu".


Thanks,
Nirav

From: sharma@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Sandeep Sharma)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:59:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Niagara Falls information wanted
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian


You can see the entire Falls in less than a day , from
both the sides .
You do need a Canadian visa . It's not necessary to go to Canada
to have that view . Boat/helicopter rides are available to offer the
best of the views from any side .

See the Road atlas for the best/shortest/fastest route .
And that's all that I know .

Have a nice time .

Sandeep
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:28185 soc.college:3593 talk.religion.misc:13991 talk.origins:9502 sci.math:10284 sci.chem:3041 sci.misc:1482 sci.bio.technology:227 sci.physics:12857 sci.space:11821
From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.college,talk.religion.misc,talk.origins,sci.math,sci.chem,sci.misc,sci.bio.technology,sci.physics,sci.space
Subject: Re: CONSCIOUSNESS AND SCIENCE DISCUSSION GROUP
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:30:52 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug14.023558.5092@panix.com> davidc@panix.com (David C. Chorlian) writes:
>In <1992Aug12.150756.27716@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>
>
>>     Then briefly tell me how this is reflected in, say, the development
>>     of Maxwell's equations in a way that it was not reflected in,
>>     say, the development of Weber's equations or Gauss's law.
>
>>     Be brief.
>
>Wrong subject of investigation.  
>	The appropriate one would compare British science
>and German science, attempting to correlate the relative importance
>of electromagnetic investigation with comparable fields of physics
>and chemistry, preferred methods of inquiry, methods of transmission
>of knowledge, etc. with patterns of social and economic development.
>Perhaps some interesting aspect of Maxwell's development of
>electromagnetic theory would emerge, but I rather think the 
>more interesting figure is Faraday--it's the formative figures
>who show the influence of the context most significantly.

    Okay.  Compare 'British' and 'German' science and the 'great
    currents' that required them to be the way they were (Hint: I think
    you'd have an easier time with Maxwell than Faraday).

    Be brief.

                             dale bass
-- 
C. R. Bass                                           crb7q@virginia.edu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, Virginia                            (804) 924-7926
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sinha@n7.math.umn.edu (Samarendra Sinha)
Subject: Looking for Arup Majumdar ........
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:46:05 GMT

.....from IIT/Kanpur. I have been told that he is working in NY. Any  
information about him would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
- Samarendra Sinha  (sinha@s6.math.umn.edu)
From: bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re:New DebaniCions
Date: 16 Aug 1992 00:06:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


                        Errata [in DebaniCions]
       ------------------------------------------------------------------
       debutant:  One who makes an "lasting" impression right in his first 
                                ^^
                                 a


        debate: Speaker1:  ???????????????????????????????????????????????
                Speaker2:  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                         What the silent spectators usually make out:
                         %$#@#%#^&*(&()*(*)(&%^*%%^$^%^#$>><><)(*(

              "There was a lively debate in Parliament yesterday
         on -> about "Arranged Marriages vs Love marriages" and


              debuty:    a side-kick who is venemous like the King Cobra.
                                               ^^
                                                o

           
               eMISAry:  a messenger with a tough message.
                 (s)

                   
                As was expected, they prefered the 98%-SCUM label to
                                           ^^
                                           rr
        --------------------------------------------------------------------

  One more:

  debris:  all that remains of a person/place/thing after being
           debolished by a gale.

           "Search Parties were looking for Mus****' debris
            in and around the Colorado area and are yet to
            locate any traceable evidence of his existance
            in flesh and blood. Strewn around the area were
            [only] broken pieces of a huge clay tablet and
            after putting 'em all together [assemble] they 
            found this inscribed on the tablet:

                         A GOOD SAMARITAN        "

                                              -------- The Daily Loose
                
    regards,
    BK          
            
          


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:32:06 GMT
Keywords: satti

In article <1992Aug11.033343.1699@uceng.UC.EDU> mghayalo@uceng.UC.EDU (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.024826.28544@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> ravi@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Pattalachinti) writes:
>>In article <166kk9INNdg5@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu> sngattan@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Sanjay N Gattani) writes:
>>
>>I think it was during the time of MOGUL attacks the sati system
>>came into prominence.  The reason behind this, I am not very sure
>>somebody out there should enlighten me.
>>
>That was Jowhar and not sati. Sati was practised by some sadistic


What's jowhar ?

regards
waseem
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                        uunet!sco!waseems
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From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India successfully launches missile
Date: 22 Aug 1992 14:55:22 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug22.171744.27834@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>>Oh no,
>>a really successful missile would steal other people's land for you;
>
>e.g. India controlling Kashmir 

Knowing that your sense of history and current affairs is almost nonexistant, 
it should be mentioned that the INDIAN STATE OF JAMMU AND KASHMIR, comprises
only 2/3 rds of the original state. The other third continues to be occupied
by Pakistan and China. 

>>and a nation of homeless;
>>and a nation of unemployed;
>>and a nation of sexually-abused children;
>>.
>
>I guess there are no homeless/unemployed/sexually-abused children in India
>

Yes you guess right. There are none. 




Samit
From: sankar@hal.COM (Sankar Bandy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Mr. Arindam Ghosh is CONVERTING ME from Hinduism please help me.
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:01:32 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: quality.hal.com

In article <1992Aug13.213924.1959@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs461a09@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs461a09) writes:
>
>	HELP me how to kill files written by Mr. Arindam Ghosh
>	======================================================
>
>This man has gone mad.  He is crazy religious fanatic who is hell
>bend on converting me to MUSLIM religion.
>
>	MR. GHOSH IT WILL BE BETTER IF YOU TAKE YOUR VIEWS TO 
>			
>			"SOC.RELIGION.ISLAM"
>
       ........ Stuff deleted.........
>
>
>I have not called your religion any names WHY THE HELL YOU ARE COMPLAINING
>ABOUT HINDUSIM?.
>
>You say you are not interested in conversion BETTER IMPLEMENT
>YOUR STATEMENT BY ACTIONS NOT JUST LIP SERVICE.
>
>AVINASH 

Avinash,
	I think you are over reacting to Arindam. I have been studying his
postings for a long time, and I absolutely believe(NO, I KNOW), you are
putting intentions and words in his mouth. Lest you misunderstand me,
Arindam's and my view points are 180 degree opposed to each other on 
religion and related stuff. I can at least tell you this, he does not
HAVE any intention to convert:-) you TO ISLAM as you fear, rather irrationally.
I also objected to the over dose of religious verbosity to his recent
postings. I think he should reduce it, and present himself as himself.
He does not believe in personal religion, which is the basis of secularism,
and he thinks that the BAHAI religion is a religion to unite all religion,
a kind of meta-religion which tries to bring into practice the hindu 
ideology of "SARBA DHARMA SAMBHABA". This is the same line of reinter-
pretation of secularism as what Mahatma Gandhi preached(with consequent
attack from extremists of all religion). AGAIN, I say I do not subscribe
to his view, but I understand it. In fact after discussing with him, I have
read one of the famous books on BAHAI-an ideology. It is interesting and
should be read even if you are perfectly happy with your concept of Hinduism
(PLEASE; I am NOT PREACHING ANY RELIGION; I myself am agnostic). I think, 
the scientific approach to life is being open to everything new, that does
not mean you have to ACCEPT or REJECT it. This black and white scale of
ACCEPT or REJECT simply does not conform to reality. However, I also feel
this over-zeal is actually counter productive, and he should refrain from
putting BAHAI everywhere. As religions evolve, they go into perspective
and the perspective itself changes, the longer it is there. In that respect
BAHAISM is too new to be judged into any kind of perspective. Hope this 
calms down your anger. 

>> SANKAR
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sriram@cs.uh.edu (Sriram Raghunathan)
Subject: Re: help in kill file
Organization: Computer Science dept.,  Univ. of Houston (Main Campus)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.174003.8770@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
>
> Can  someone help me in maintaining a kill file, which can kill articles
> depending on author. I want to keep some posters in kill file so that
> I don't have to read discourses every day.
>
>  Raja 


There are many ways you could go about it:

* sci may already be a moderated group (confirm with Deb).
  
* you could RTFM 

* banish the thought, if you were to ask Fafat. It is illegal.

* ask Deb. you may have to swap this info for a death threat.

* you might want to reconsider your motivation. There are those who feel
  there is nothing like one discourse a day at the apex of the FDA chart.

* sleaze is released with the sole aim of being buried down
  unwilling throats. Don't try to beat the system.

* you never know what you may be missing.
  what if the 'discourse' author were to turn interesting?
  (as Deb did, when his keyboard wouldnt get unlocked)

* the authors you elect to encode can change their .signatures.

* only 'looking for' type of articles may be left after the kill.

* put up an article on sci asking for help 

**********************************************************************

Killfillito ergo sum.				

(I have a kill file. Therefore I am)

**********************************************************************

sriram
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:38:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.183044.2677@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.173343.17355@uceng.UC.EDU>, rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.154013.6751@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>>
>>
>>>Bahai faith is HInduism, Buddhism, Islam , Christianity , Buddhism etc.
>>>Reflect on it.
>>
>>You have to be very precise about what you mean. 

Armindamji!

Krishna is not a guru! You may want to interpret it like that, but
in Hinduism guru is not equivalent to god! I think by your insistence
about this prophet and that we find some Guru making factories, you
are insulting us! We do not believe that we need some professional
spiritual goonda to lead us to salvation! Our Atmans are capable
of that meta-physical achievement.

Come on! You can spare us from this! We do of course understand
that your religion makes preaching an important aspect in spiritual
life! But remember doing it on the street itself is intimidating!
Doing it here is vulgar to say the least! 

PS: I had an american grad student who refused to go to an 
interview at Bringam Young, because he felt that he will
be continually horassed and preached to by the Mormans
everywher he goes.

...regards,
...kt
From: sramacha@talitha.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Greetings
Date: 15 Aug 1992 10:11:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: talitha.usc.edu


	      

	                INDEPENDENCE DAY GREETINGS
		

		    	            TO


			      FELLOW-INDIANS
From: ganesh@mega.cs.umn.edu (M. Ganesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Travel agent information
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:33:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

I am posting this for a friend. Please send all replies to 
vvoller@vx.cis.umn.edu.
Thank you.
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Recently I booked my air tickets to India through Worldwide Travels of
Santa Monica, CA. I would appreciate if any of you could let me know
about the credibility of the travel agent. Any previous experiences good
or bad would be helpful. Thanks !

SWAMI
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From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Science and Morality (was: Meat eating....etc!)
Date: 13 Aug 1992 16:27:46 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 In-Reply-To: <1992Aug13.200924.18695@u.washington.edu>
 References: <1992Aug13.004624.17055@u.washington.edu> <16e9m9INNsq6@quality.hal.COM>
 Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
 
 In article <1992Aug13.200924.18695@u.washington.edu> V. Nagarajan writes:
 >In article <16e9m9INNsq6@quality.hal.COM> sankar@hal.COM (Sankar Bandy) write:
 
 [Stuff about plant and animal expressing pain deleted. If this is
 not correct - please forgive me - I have no desire to get into this]
 
 [presumably Nagarajan states this; see the reference list]
 >>>	relates to health and environmental issues); moral issues cannot 
 >>>	be debated from a scientific standpoint.
 
 Why so?
 
 >>
 >>I differ from you there. Science is there precisely to reinterpret our
 >>morality in the light of new findings. Morality **MUST** be debated
 >>in terms of Scientific findings and where it is established to be 
 >>harmful **MUST** be discarded. 
 
 [Sankar talks about WHO nutritional guidelines (possibly) and Nagarajan
 questions their moral relevance - presumably because of their
 proximity to the previous quote.]
 
 But I do think that Science should lead to possible re-evaluation
 of our morality such as it is. Obviously, there isn't much hope for 
 the morality resulting from revealed truths. Of course, whether 
 Sankar hints about the immorality of vegetarianism in the light of
 scientific evidence all of which I am sure has been discussed
 thoroughly or the state of its practitioners is an entirely
 different issue. Perhaps, a tour of rec.food.veg or at least its FAQ
 would reveal some truths to Sankar. (if, he hasn't been there already.)
 
 Sthan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@daffy.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Is it correct that ...
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:01:04 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1992Aug21.195644.28162@jade.tufts.edu> slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>I do not know whether this is true or not, but there seems to 
>be a strong belief that masterbation lowers a person's 
>intelligence level. In our student life this belief was so 
>widespread that guys used to suffer a kind of mental depression
>after doing it (just before exams) and as a result their 
>performance in the exams happened to be less than satisfactory.
>IMHO the mental depression was the killing factor and not
>the "thing". That masterbation lowers person's mental faculties
>is very strongly preached by the "religious books" published by
>Chaitanya Math. It also describes the persons doing this as "of
>a lower strata". Is there any scientific explanation of this ?
>IMHO this is BS. I have my personal records to refute this.
>
>Flames, ideas, logic, and plain bs most welcome.
>
>-Sandip

  Yanking reducing u'r intelligence ?!! Gimmie another one.
  I know a guy with an average of thrice a day, and he got a triple
  eight in GRE.
  I hate to brag, but the correlation works well in my case too (almost
  exactly ) -- yours truly got a 2340.

  luv,

  Shaggy, D.A.
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