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From: Fidel Villa (fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu)
Subject: Video board, Beta 2.1, Networking
Originator: fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 13:00:18 GMT

Hi netters!

Please clarify : How does the 32-bit graphics engine work when you have 
a 16-bit video card? Are there any 32-bit video board around?

I have a NEC 4FG monitor (non-interlaced) but still acting like interlaced.
Is there such thing as interlaced video board? I have an AST 486/33 where
the video board is burned into the motherboard. Can I install another video
board without conflict?

How can I find out the memory of my video card? Are there any utilities
to do that? (I tried MSD.EXE but not in there.) I'm getting only 16 colors.

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If 300,000 of us will get the beta version 2.1 at $15 each IBM will earn
4.5 M! Are we getting a rebate for the real thing?

Can you install beta 2.1 over GA+SP or can you install in another partition?

-----
When I demonstrated OS/2 to my boss, he is 'terrified about my computer 
knowledge.' Suddenly I became an expert! Well, to scare me back, he wants 
me to set-up a 5-node network. I have read tcpstart.txt from hobbes and
os2v2-lan.ann from ibm. Any readable text around?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: heiser@TDWR.ED.RAY.COM (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: TE/2 problem
Organization: Raytheon Company, Equipment Division
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 23:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.211034.29406@nmsu.edu> pidgeon@acca.nmsu.edu (Pidgeon) writes:
>I've been experiencing a problem with TE/2 when I try to use it with the 
>settings: E,7,1.  The program tells me that a connection has been made, but
>nothing shows up on the screen.  I've tried hitting the return key, playing
>around with duplex, etc. but to no avail.  I do hear the tone from the remote
>machine, I just can't get a login prompt. 


I have seen a similar problem with TE/2.  I *do* see the login: prompt
on the remote system, but the "dial window" doesn't go away in TE/2!
Hitting the return key, clicking the mouse, etc, has no effect.

Without being able to dial except for manual-dial, TE/2 is of limited
use.

-- 
Bill Heiser   Work:  heiser@TDWR.ED.RAY.COM
              Other: heiser@world.std.com
From: slq56@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: QIC-80 TAPE BACKUP PROGRAM WANTED
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:54:11 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Is there yet available a tape backup/restore program that will recognize FAT
and HPFS for OS/2?  I own a Summit SE250; it's QIC-80 compatible.  Any info
you can provide will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Frank Harris
SLQ56@cc.usu.edu

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From: harvey@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: My CD-ROM is not working! This may help
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:20:44 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1i2387EINNpl2@uni-erlangen.de>, hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff) writes:
> fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Fidel I Villa) writes:
> 
>>------------------
>>I finally received 2.1 beta and my CD-ROM is still not working under
>>  OS/2. (Works fine under plain DOS 5.0 NOT in OS/2 DOS session)
> 
>>   Setup: Toshiba XM3301
>>   Controller: Future Domain
>>   Other devices: Tape Back-up, Modem
> 
>>   Suppose to be OS/2 supports this without hassle but NO.
> 
>>   I am hesitant of running the beta install in plain DOS 5.0 (image). Has 
>>anybody ever done this?   
> 
>>   My CDROM.SYS is still dated 3/30/92 despite I had installed the SP's. Any
>>newer version.
> 
>>   Please help. I would like use OS/2 2.1.
> 
> Have you installed CD-ROM support? (Or is that a stupid question? But I had
> to ask).
> 
> Your CONFIG.SYS should contain
> a)    a basedev command for your SCSI controller.
> b)    IFS=x:\OS2\CDFS.IFS /Q (x being the appropriate drive letter)
> c)    device=x:\OS2\CDROM.SYS /I /Q /N:4  (N:4 meaning SCSI Id 4)
> 
> Your CD-ROM should have the ID 4.
> These settings should be made automatically, when you do a selective install
> Be sure to include IBM CDROM as well, since IBM drives are really Toshibas
> (or so I am told).
> It is possible to use DOS to access the OS2 beta. There is good information
> on this topic on the CD itself. To install the 2.1 beta from the CD you'll
> have to make two disks from images on the CD. The future domain controller
> is explicitly listed there as supported controller.
> 
> Happy new year!
> -Hajo
> ---
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hans-Jochen Kirchhoff | hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
>> No signature today  | CompuServe 100024,712

If none of these hints have helped then I have just got two 3301 drives going
happily under OS/2 + CSD using a Future domain 845 controller (using fd8xx
drivers which are in the OS2CDROM.ZIP file. The problem for me ended up being
the ordering of the statements follow the readme exactly but also watch were
you add the os2cdrom.add (or something like that) it should be imediately
before or after the other group that is in the config.sys. If this dosen't help
any then let me know and I'll post a exact copy of my config.sys file which
works great. I powered down, added the second drive simply by connecting the
daisy chain cable and then powered on again, there in the drives folder were 2
cdrom icons with labelled H and I.

Mark Harvey
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: CMS Software (From CMS BBS)
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 18:06:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/20 - SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco CA

Hello Ronald!

Thursday December 31 1992 16:59, Ronald Jones wrote to All:

RJ-> I guess IBM doesn't want Sytos Plus to compete with PS/2 Internal Tape
RJ-> backup program!

    They needn't worry.  Sytos Plus is such a pile of crap that it really is no competition for ANYbody.

                                          - Michael -

--  
Michael Nelson
UUCP: amdahl.com!kennel!125!20!Michael.Nelson
INTERNET: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Michael Nelson only."
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: muir@convex.com (David Muir)
Subject: Re: TE/2 and Emacs
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:24:52 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <GKUSHMER.92Dec31084749@jade.tufts.edu> gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek) writes:

>(you may have already seen a similar message in .misc from me)

>I'm having trouble getting TE/2 to work properly with Emacs.  Prior
>to December, I had an older 1.2 TE/2 release (the one that first came
>out with the buggy COMMPAK.DLL). I used this version of TE/2 with the
>old .DLL and the new .DLL without having any trouble with Emacs on
>my Unix account.

>Then came the 'unofficial' release of the Trident 32-bit drivers.  I did
>not get these to work for me, and had to re-install my entire system.  In
>the process, I had to install the latest shareware release of TE/2 (slightly
>different color scheme than the original) since I'd gotten it for the new
>COMMPAK.DLL.  

>After installing the new version, I noticed that it was not Emacs-friendly.  If
>I scroll backwards on a line using either arrow keys or C-b, then characters
>the cursor passes over disappear.  I can get them back on the screen if
>I do a screen refresh (C-l), but I shouldn't have to.

>This could be a modem setting, something in my initialization string possibly.
>Or it could be some subtle programming difference with TE/2.

>If anyone has any advice on this, I'd be happy to hear it!

>Cheers,

>--gk

>Greg Kushmerek

You probably need to set the backspace setting in the te2.ini file for
non-destructive.  I use te2 to log on to a unix machine and run VI under unix. 
VI expects to have a non-destructive cursor.  This setting is in the
emulator settings of the .ini file.  I am using the VT-100 emulator and have
had no problems with it.


* Dave Muir *

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: CMS Software (From CMS BBS)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:12:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.173328.1908@sbcs.sunysb.edu> altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman) writes:
>I have completed my research on ordering 
>Sytos Plus for OS/2 version 1.36
>with CMS driver support.
>
>It is only available from two places:
>Sytron for $179.95 and CMS for $99.99.
>
>The CMS version only contains drivers for the CMS drives.
>The Sytron version contains drivers for all Sytron supported devices.
>
>CMS in addition will allow you to download the software
>from their BBS if you order it from them via credit card.
>This enables you to start using the software today instead
>of having to wait for the middle of January for the packages
>to start shipping.
>
>The compressed package is about 880k for those concerned about
>the download costs.
>

IBM lists Sytos Plus for OS.2 v1.3 at $117 (NEP) its part number
04G3374 (Maybe they have version 1.36 by now? Anyone ordered
from them?).
-- 
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 < The Ohio State University   |    Office:      (614) 292-1665 >
 < 338 West Tenth Avenue       |    FAX:(9-5PM)  (614) 292-7151 > 
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From: caliaro@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Aurelio Caliaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Resource editor?
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:06:30 GMT
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is there already a Resource Editor for OS/2? Or even better... a
Shareware Resource Editor???

     Aurelio Caliaro
From: benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: SIO 15
Date: 26 Dec 92 01:33:14 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <2DRcwB4w165w@tcscs.UUCP>, tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
> I was trying to locate SIO for OS/2..I heard that 15 was the highest
> version out now.  Would someone be willing to email it to me encoded?
> 
I just d/l sio ver .20 from ftp pub/os2/uploads.
Alan Benezra
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: CMS Software (From CMS BBS)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.152214.5957@sbcs.sunysb.edu> altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman) writes:
>Ronald Jones (rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1992Dec28.173328.1908@sbcs.sunysb.edu> altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman) writes:
>: >I have completed my research on ordering 
>: >Sytos Plus for OS/2 version 1.36
>: >with CMS driver support.
>: >
>: >The CMS version only contains drivers for the CMS drives.
>: >The Sytron version contains drivers for all Sytron supported devices.
>: >
>
>: IBM lists Sytos Plus for OS.2 v1.3 at $117 (NEP) its part number
>: 04G3374 (Maybe they have version 1.36 by now? Anyone ordered
>: from them?).
>: -- 
>
>The IBM package only contains drivers for IBM products.  Again,
>the only place to get the CMS drivers is CMS or Sytron.
>
>
I guess IBM doesn't want Sytos Plus to compete with PS/2 Internal Tape
backup program! However, I friend of mine was able to get additional
drivers from Sytos (this was before CMS drivers were out).

>


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman)
Subject: Re: CMS Tape OS/2 avail today
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:42:56 GMT

Just got off the phone with CMS.
Shipping in 2-4 weeks.

The person on the phone kept describing their product as
a driver for OS/2 2.0.  And it was clear that she was
reading from a sheet so I asked her if she could fax it
to me.

Here is what I got:

The product is Sytos Plus File Backup Manager for OS/2

Uses PM, supports HPFS and FAT, including restores from
HPFS to FAT with name conversion.

Provides Lan Manager and Lan Server support.

Its a 16bit application..

The suggested retail price is $99.

Now the real question.  I assume what the salesperson meant
by "yes, we have a driver for OS/2" means that Sytos Plus
includes a driver for CMS Jumbo tape drives.  Therefore, this
product should be available from other sources at a cheaper
price.

Does anyone have a catalog from a mail order house that
sells Sytos Plus for OS/2 and how much is it?

Thanks.

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From: gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with TE/2 sometimes
Date: 28 Dec 92 06:52:09 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In <Xa67VB6w165w@tcscs.UUCP> tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

>I've been having problems with TE/2 recently, and I dont' know why.

>TE/2 had run flawlessly for quite a while, but now it doesn't like to exit.
>Instead when I hit ALT-X, the screen clears and it just stops.  I can CTRL-ESC
>and go back to it, but it stays hung.  PROCS doesn't find anything so I can't
>KILLEM the app so I'm stuck with just SHUTDOWN and reboot.  I dont like having
>to do this. Other times I've found TE2 hanging around and PROCS would see it, 
>but KILLEM could not kill it. :(
> 
>At first I noticed it when call waiting would knock off a connection, though
>I could use TE2 all I wanted after that happened,  it is just exiting that
>causes the problems.  Now it is happening more and more often without having
>call waiting do anything.  

>Does anyone have any ideas what is going on here?  This is TE/2 1.20 with
>Commpak 1.02.  

>My system is amd 386-33, 8 megs ram, 16450 serial port locked at 19200 wiht
>ppi PM9600SA external modem.

>Another side point.  I noticed this happening after I installed a boca io 2by4
>with 16550's.  But now I've gone back to my 16450 and it still does it. :(

>Thanks
>Greg


This can't be a coincidence, because it's been happening to me too. I
haven't installed any new com drivers or hardware, but I did use
cpyini. I don't know if that is the culprit?

Gyan 
UBC, Vancouver.


From: Randy.Clark@f115.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Randy Clark)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: CMS Tape OS/2 avail today
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:28:00 -0600

  >Phil at CMS Tech Support told me that the drivers for
  >QIC40 and QIC80 Tape Drives are part of the standard
  >Sytos Plus for OS/2 package.  Of course, there must
  >be an upgrade for that package being shipped by Sytron
  >in the next couple of weeks.

Does the Sytos drivers include support for the FC-10 and TC-15 cards as
well?

-Randy


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From: airhart@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Os/2: Leave It Running
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:20:49 +1700
Distribution: world
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

>> hardware or software wise due to not shutting down.  In fact I perfer not to
>> shutdown OS/2 because I HATE that damn
>> "Lets_Start_Everything_You_Have_Ever_Used"  feature (I used it call it a bug). 
>> That drives me nuts!  I know that a CTRL-SHIFT-F1 stops it... but I should not
>> have to wait around for it... 
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a way to kill that so-called feature...?
>> 
>  
>   From memory, add the following line to your CONFIG.SYS:
>  
>         SET RESTARTOBJECTS=RESTARTFOLDERSONLY
>  
>   If this doesn't work, I'm pretty sure it's in the FAQ.
I guess I am lucky. I simply close the windows that I am through with and go
through the shutdown process. I never get anything that was not there before I
shutdown last. As for the virtues of turning off your machine.
 
1 - Lightning. Murphy's laws says that if you leave your computer on and leave,
    it will rain and rain bad before you can get home. Of course Mother nature
    cannot strike every single computer, so she causes a wide area brown out
    causing your P/S to crap out and bomb off your system.
2 - Heat. My computer room gets so hot compared to my other rooms that I have
    closed most of the other vents off.
3 - Cats. Never forget to lock your keyboard and put your mouse in a holder. 
    There are cat magnets built into computer I/O devices. They love to walk
    on my K/B and bat my mouse around (at least that makes sense). One of them 
    has figured out that the little arrow on the screen moves when the mouse
    is moved. Cute, but annoying when PCPLUS for DOS freaks with mouse
    movement.
All of this aside, unless I am leaving for more than a 12 - 14 hours, I leave
mine running with the K/B locked and the mouse in its hole. 


_________________________________________________________________________
Michael Airhart			| Disclaimer: Anyone crazy enough to 
MIS Senior @ 			| believe that I would (or want to) speak
Lamar University, Beaumont, TX.	| for someone else should seek prompt
AIRHART@LUB001.LAMAR.EDU	| professional help.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: koens@sci.kun.nl (Koen Schreel)
Subject: Re: Term Emulator Wishes?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 13:24:21 GMT

In <18.2b402d62@ivgate> Bob.Batson@mtask.omahug.org (Bob Batson) writes:

>If you're interested in a Terminal Emulator for OS/2 such as REFLECTION,
>send your wishes to the WRQ Tech Support at support@wrq.com. Please be sure
>to indicate which products you are most interested in -- HP terminal
>emulators, VT emulators, tn3270, what hosts, X-windows server, and what
>specific terminal features?



>Bob Batson                        |   "xbsjywhspo ocmpszrgpuklepffff!"
>bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org       |                 -- Cousin Itt

I have sent a list, but I don't know the program REFLECTION. Is it available
via ftp or is it a commercial program? In the first case, where can I get it?

Koen Schreel (koens@sci.kun.nl / u630008@hnykun11.bitnet)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: pidgeon@acca.nmsu.edu (Pidgeon)
Subject: Turbo C/C++
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:17:31 GMT

I'm looking for people's experiences with running Turbo C/C++ under OS/2.
Can it be run, particularly the huge model?  And can the debugger be used?
Are there any caveats to be aware of and what should the DOS settings be?

Thanks very much.

Stephen Berrick
pidgeon@acca.nmsu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: altman@cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman)
Subject: CD Technology drive offer
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, State U of NY at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:33:28 GMT

For those of you considering the CD Tech drive offer.
Here is some additional info, if you ask politely and
spend $50 more CD Tech will send you a Toshiba 3304 
instead of the 3301.

What's the difference?

			3301		3304

Access time		300ms		200ms
Throughput		150kb/s		300kb/s
Sessions		single		multi
spin speed		single		double
photo cd support 	no		yes

well worth the extra $50.  They will start shipping the 3304 
in the second week of January.  Well within the 2-4 weeks promised
for delivery.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ral@athens.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Re: Creative Labs CD-Rom support
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 22:24:17 GMT
Summary: Creative Labs CD-ROM

In article <9301034759@ritz.mordor.com>, ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
> The price for the Soundblaster Pro + CD-Rom package seems to be
> right around $400 right now and I'm considering taking the plunge.
> My only concern is whether or not there is a working driver for
> CL's proprietary CD-Rom interface and if not the status of development
> of such a driver.  I'm interested in this package for 2 reasons:
>  * it's cheap (relatively)
>  * it's fast (I believe the CD-Rom avg seek is 340ms and is MPC(?)
>    compliant).
> 

I was wondering what it means when the specs for this CD-ROM drive say that
it has 540 MB data capacity.  Many CD-ROMs and drives that I've read about
seem to have as much as 660 MB.  Does this mean the Creative Labs drive
cannot read all of those 660MB disks?  BTW, the drive has 390 ms access
time, a 64 K buffer, and 150K/sec transfer rate.
-- 
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From: francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: X11 server in OS/2?
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:40:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47608
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

rbeebe@surgery.med.yale.edu (Rick Beebe) writes:

]Okay, it's just not something I ever tried. That's good news: we have both 
]client and server. I would assume, therefore, that if I'd invested in the 
]programmer's kit, then I could right OS/2 applications that could be 
]displayed on our Unix box. Yippee!

Well, not quite. If you have the X11 programmer's kit you can write X11
applications that can be used remotely running on an OS/2 machine.

]Francis Moraes wrote:
]
]]A point of interest though: Before I actually got things running correctly
]]I had the remote machine running xhello on the PC and displaying on the PC.
]]While this was going on, the focus of _all_ of my X programs changed to
]]pointer (since that was the focus policy of the remote machine). Strange.
]
]This happens when you don't have the DISPLAY variable set to your local 
]machine. Actually, it can be quite fun on a multiuser machine if you have 
]privileges (ie,  as root). You can run programs and make them display on 
]_other people's_ terminals. Great fun.

No, this isn't what I was talking about. It seems that the window
management of the client can take control of the server. This is _very_
strange. I would be interested in any comments on why (and how) this is.

Francis Moraes
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: Elvis 1.6 release .ms docs?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:14:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.075703.20791@nwnexus.WA.COM> davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant) writes:
>I retrieved the elvis 1.6 package from comp.binaries.os2 today, but the
>docs are in some wierd format I'm not familiar with.  All the docs have
>the .ms ending.
>
>How do I read these doc files as they are intended to be viewed?
>(Is it some kind of man format?)
>

There is no 1.6-specific document. I just copied the 1.5 documents.
Those are troff files and you need troff/nroff to "compile"
them. I don't have these in my OS/2 partition. In the next
release, I'll try to give a printable doc.


Wen-Chun Ni, wcn@cs.brown.edu         (401) 863-7669
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