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From: bub@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Not Queensland's news
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:32:29 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

My friend Li W. studing in QUT want to find a place not far from city to share
with others. 

Please e-mail to w.li@qut.edu.au
From: t9114209@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality games in Australia
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:38:51 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Sep30.040159.15510@yarra-glen.aaii.oz.au>, rgg@yarra-glen.aaii.oz.au (Rupert G. Goldie) writes:
> ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:
>>Alan To (alan@sorokin.anu.edu.au) wrote:
>>: Does anyone know of any places in Australia (Sydney, Canberra or Melbourne
>>: really) where you can play games of virtual reality with eyephones etc.
> 
>>There is now one in Southgate in Melbourne. They currently have two machines
>>linked together but they are expecting more

There are only two machines in Aus, and they are it. The company is _trying_
to find buyers, but so far it seems no one can foot the huge price tag. They
charge about $2000 to rent just for one day.
 
> I had a go on one of these the other day. I was impressed with the quality
> of the graphics and the ergonomics of the thing. The eyephones are reasonably 
> balanced, so all the weight is not at the front, and they fitted over my glasses
> with no problems. The game itself did not last a really long time (a few minutes)
> and cost $5. 
>  One of the guys there said they are getting a lot of people through, especially
> on weekends, school hols, and lunch times. The quietest time to go is mid afternoon
> on a weekday. They said that most of the time they are running Dactyl Nightmare
> (run around a number of platforms and shoot at the other player and the occasional
> pteradactyl) but if it's quiet they may run an adventure game (don't know the name)
> which lasts much longer.

dactyl nightmare is very boring after you have played the D&D adventure game - 
which is called Legend Quest. If you go there at about 10:00 you can usually
get David to put it on for you, however be warned that they charge $1/min and
it's not worth playiong for under 15mins. I played the new levels last week 
and quickly blew $30 in one session.

But it _is_ worth checking out.. 

Seeya,
Eds 

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From: mantolov@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Michael Antolovich)
Subject: Programming Language called PILOT ?
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:48:07 GMT

Hi,
   Anyone heard of the programming language (or what ever ?) called
PILOT ?  What platforms does it run on ?  Is it any good ?  What sort of
things have you done with it ?  Where can it be bought in Australia ?
Is it easy to learn/use/run etc ?
						Thanks,
						Michael
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Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.education
From: murdoch, WA, Australia (kywong@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au(Khoon Yoong Wong))
Subject: Re: Programming Language called PILOT ?
Organization: external studies, murdoch university
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:16:47 GMT


I have used PILOT on AppleIIe and IBM. Quite sufficient for writing simple CAI
programs. There is also a SUPER PILOT for IBM including use of colour.

In article <1992Sep30.010906.15265@mel.dit.csiro.au>, len@mel.dit.csiro.au (Len Makin) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Sep29.144807.4724@csu.edu.au>, mantolov@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Michael Antolovich) writes:
> |> Hi,
> |>    Anyone heard of the programming language (or what ever ?) called
> |> PILOT ?  What platforms does it run on ?  Is it any good ?  What sort of
> |> things have you done with it ?  Where can it be bought in Australia ?
> |> Is it easy to learn/use/run etc ?
> |> 						Thanks,
> |> 						Michael
> PILOT was (is?) a language used for building "Programmed Instruction for
> Learning Or Teaching" or something similar. It was very good at the
> interactive dialogue type of instruction:
> 
> Present some Material
> Ask a Question.
> Get Answer.
> Match the answer against known strings/substrings
> Decide what to do next.
> Record user responses
> 
> There were (interpreter/compiler) versions for several minicomputers 
> and mainframes,but not sure if it has survived the transition to micros.
> There was an attempt at standardization - Common PILOT?
> Although it had all the structures (loops,decisions, modules) it was
> of no use for general programming, but for lessons or other 
> interactive dialogues, it was easy to use, and the string/substring 
> matching instructions were superior to anything else. I think I still
> have a text buried in my book stack dealing with PILOT. I will email 
> you with details if you're still interested.
> 
> Regards,
>         Len Makin.
> Len.Makin@mel.dit.csiro.au               | Senior Computer Scientist    |
> CSIRO Division of Information Technology | Supercomputing Support Group |
> 723 Swanston Street, Carlton             | Tel: +61 3 282 2622          |
> VIC 3053, Australia                      | Fax: +61 3 282 2600          |
> 
> 
>
From: Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Reply-To: msp%pos.pub.uu.oz.au@tmx.mhs.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: V22 time service via a local PSTN call
Date: 4 Oct 92 0:51:42 GMT
Organization: Me?  Organized?

steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 565 4747 @ Monash University, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA) once wrote....
>
>|A dial-in time service is now being provided by Telecom. The details of the
>|service are as follows:
>|
>|PSTN numbers to be allocated as service becomes available in each State.
>|   [Melbourne clock access number is:- (03) 600-1641]

Thanks for the info some of us have been calling the states for the same
facility.  Do you have a Sydney number?  Does this provide the same function
as the nbstime number in the States??

The entry from my uucp systems file looks like:

#       Dummy system name, but the information is real; calling the
#       NBS telephone will set your system's clock automagically
*nbstime   Never  HAYES24 1200 0011-1-303-494-4774 *

Mark

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: djk@bby.com.au (David James Keegel)
Subject: Re: New Victorian Premier/result using PR
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:51:28 GMT

lee@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Lee Naish) writes:

] ... what the result would have been under the Hare Clark system of PR.

] 	Lib	Nat	ALP	Other
] 	40	9	36	3

What/who are the 3 "Others" here?
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From: ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose)
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:20:13 GMT

Well, I'm not going to buy into the argument about who is at fault in
the third world countries. What I do want to say is:

1. The Nursing Mothers Association of Australia is an excellent
organisation, and can give you all sorts of FACTS about the advantages
of breastfeeding over bottle feeding. They are numerous and
non-trivial. Ignoring the third world for a moment, Australians
generally should be more aware of the services the NMAA can provide.

2. The World Health Organisation are also pretty smart people. I have
trouble believing the few posts that seemed to say "Who are WHO,
anywho?" :-)

3. (Ignoring wetnurses for a moment, since they are in limited supply.)
Once the mother's milk has dried up, that's it, you're stuck with
formula. In this sense it is like an addiction, especially since the
mother's milk WILL dry up in a relatively short time.

In short, I think apportioning blame is both irrelevant and
counterproductive (as it draws attention away from the real issue).
Let's fix the problem, if necessary by banning (yes I am serious) the
use of formula unless prescribed by a doctor.  No, I don't know how to
acheive this.
--
Greg Rose                 Australian Computing and Communications Institute
ggr@acci.com.au                                              +61 3 282 2532
"If you ever do that again, I'll cut you out of my will!"
		    -- Captain Ross to Co-pilot Gann, "Fate is the Hunter"
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From: nan@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.news
Subject: WAVELETS DOWNUNDER -WORKSHOP JAN'93
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:47:03 GMT
Followup-To: aus.followup
Distribution: aus
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation


                              WAVELETS DOWN UNDER

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Centre for Sensor Signal and Information Processing, University of Adelaide,
Flinders University and the University of South Australia would like to present
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the problems of the Fourier transforms and associated developments may
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in this field as per the following program. Detailed course notes will be
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                        WAVELETS AND THEIR APPLICATIONS
                           ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA
                             18 - 22 JANUARY, 1993

                                    PROGRAM

18 JANUARY : Professor Guido WEISS, Washington  University ,
INTRODUCTION TO WAVELET TRANSFORMS AND AN OVERVIEW
OF APPLICATIONS

19 JANUARY : Professor John BENEDETTO, University of Maryland,
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20 JANUARY : Professor Ramesh GOPINATH, Rice University,
WAVELETS FOR SIGNAL PROCESSING AND IMAGE ANALYSIS

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From: les@itcsyd.itc.oz.au (Les Pall)
Subject: Humour from the President
Keywords: bogus,humour
Organization: Information Technology Consultants Pty Ltd
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 12:25:17 GMT


This was related to me recently by a friend. The remark is attributed to 
Mr Charles Wang, President of Computer Associates, at a recent conference.

"... and then there's the new desktop Operating System: DOS-PEROT.
When you boot it up, it gives you a message that 'its thinking about running'.
It then quickly scans the hard disk drive for any competing operating systems
and if it finds one, quits immediately."

DISCLAIMER: I do not work for Computer Associates. This is merely hearsay and
may be totally inaccurate.
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From: gary@suite.sw.oz.au (Gary Corby)
Subject: Re: Seven Wonders of the World
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Distribution: aus
Date:  1 Oct 92 05:18:34 GMT
Keywords: Seven Wonders

In <180@anl.oz> dudleyp@anl.oz (Paul Dudley) writes:

>Can anyone tell me what the Seven Wonders of the World are ?
>
>And if there are the Seven Wonders of the 
>
>A) Ancient World     B) Natural World    C) Modern World

I don't know about (B) and (C).  I suspect there will
probably be several conflicting lists for each.  The 
Seven Wonders of the Ancient World in no particular order are:

The Mausoleum of Halicarnassus (sp?).	Remains now in British Museum.
The Temple of Diana at Ephesus.		Gone.
The Colossus of Rhodes.			Gone.
The Pyramids.				Still there, to put it mildly.
The Hanging Gardens of Babylon.		Gone.
The Statue of Zeus at Olympos.		Gone.
The Pharos (lighthouse) at Alexandria.	Gone.
-- 
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Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.politics
From: alanf@cs.monash.edu.au (Alan Grant Finlay)
Subject: implication of GST for savings
Summary: a run on Aussie banks?
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:46:01 GMT

I have heard that when GST is introduced there will be a rapid inflation
to compensate for the new prices in the order of 5%.  If one has savings
this means they will lose 5% of their value.  Since the inflation will be
rapid there are a number of means available to avoid the effect of this
on savings.  One could convert the money to a foreign currency and invest it
in a foreign bank etc.  One could invest it in a managed trust with no
guaranteed return (i.e. indirectly convert the money into property or
business assets).  One could buy company shares.  All of these have transfer
costs and risks associated.  After the rapid inflation one can convert the
money back again.

But if everyone does this how will the banks survive?

Most of our banks offer investment portfolios (i.e. managed trusts) for
superannuation purposes.  If everyone converts the money within the same
bank or at least leaves the money in the Australian banking system somewhere,
then the banks would survive.

Of course, the banks could do this automatically for their customers, since
customers money is after all already invested (at least most of it).  And
pigs might fly too.  The banks want that money for themselves to try and
recover some of their recent spectacular losses.  If enough customers threaten
to convert their accounts to floating investments then perhaps the banks might
be forced to compensate customers for the rapid inflation.
From: rfeadf@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Finegan)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: New Victorian Premier puts foot in mouth
Summary: Jeff Kennett makes an interesting blunder in his election speech
Keywords: Jeff Kennett, Victorian Elections, Victory Speech
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:04:16 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Tonight (Saturday 3 October, 1992) Victorians have a new State Government.
It appears that the Liberal-National Party Coalition won approximately 62 seats
(Labor now have 26 seats) giving them a record majority of 36 seats in the 
State Parliament.

The Premier-elect, Jeff Kennett made his victory speech at about 9:50pm
this evening.

Now, for those of you who do not know, Jeff has a "bit" of a reputation for
putting his foot in his mouth. 

Tonight was no exception! I guess it was just a slip of the tongue (I sincerely
hope it was not a Freudian slip), but instead of saying:

"the vast majority of Victorians....."

it came out as (wait for it!!!):

"the vast majority of VICTIMS......"

I could not bear to watch any more. I'm not at all reassured by the old saying-
"You get the government you deserve!"

My normal "sign-off" is CHEERS, but tonight ....

Andrew


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From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Programming Language called PILOT ?
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:03:46 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia

In article <1992Sep29.144807.4724@csu.edu.au>, mantolov@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Michael Antolovich) writes:
> Hi,
>    Anyone heard of the programming language (or what ever ?) called
> PILOT ?  What platforms does it run on ?  Is it any good ?  What sort of
> things have you done with it ?  Where can it be bought in Australia ?
> Is it easy to learn/use/run etc ?
> 						Thanks,
> 						Michael

From memory, PILOT is a very simple language with single letter commands. It
is designed primarily for writing simple question and answer type programs,
where typed in answers can be compared with the correct answers. It is 
extremely simple to learn, but not terribly useful, particularly these
days when good C/Pascal/BASIC compilers can be had for most platforms. It
is a minimalist language, and hence probably more useful in the old days
when program+interpreter were required to fit into 4K of RAM. As it is so
easy to implement, it theoretically should be available for any platform,
although due to it's limited usefulness it could be alittle hard to find.

When I was in high school, I implemented a simple PILOT interpreter in
TRS-80 DIsk Basic, so if that is any use to you I could probably dig it up,
although I imagine it could write it more succinctly in C these days.

As I recall, there was an article in an old BYTE magazine that inspired me,
probably an issue between 1978 and 1980, but I don't know which one.

I would be interested to hear what becomes of your enquiry, particularly if
people are doing more with PILOT than I suspect.

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

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From: lee@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Lee Naish)
Subject: Re: New Victorian Premier/result using PR
Organization: Department of Computer Sci, University of Melbourne
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:18:10 GMT

In article <rfeadf.718113856@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> rfeadf@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Finegan) writes:
>Tonight (Saturday 3 October, 1992) Victorians have a new State Government.
>It appears that the Liberal-National Party Coalition won approximately 62 seats
>(Labor now have 26 seats) giving them a record majority of 36 seats in the 
>State Parliament.

Members of the Proportional Representation Society of Australia
(including myself) were in the tally room analysing the results as they
were posted.  There were some inevitable hardware & software problems,
but by late in the evening we had figures for what the result would have
been under the Hare Clark system of PR.  We assumed that the 88 seats 
were divided into two divisions, and each division divided into five
seven member electorates and one nine member electorate (use existing
electorate booundaries).  The result we came up with was

	Lib	Nat	ALP	Other
	40	9	36	3

That is, the coalition would still have won but the Liberals would not
have had a majority by themselves.  The ALP would not have been so
severely routed, thus being a more effective opposition.  The parliament
would also have had some members of smaller parties or independents.
Another important effect of using Hare Clark is that the government would
pay more attention to the problems of areas with strong support for the
opposition (such as the western suburbs of Melbourne with a coalition
government).  The government could expect to win some seats in those
areas whereas in the current system there are many electorates which are
pretty much unwinable and hence tend to be ignored.

	lee
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Date: 30 Sep 1992 05:27:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga) writes:

>information from these people that it just isn't worth it, things like
>"drink two jugs of water each day" (at which point my wife vomitted)
>to "oh, no, you should only drink one jug, who told you 2?" Since
>when has anything that has been researched used the new S.I. measure
>of the JUG?

1 jug sounds about right....given that we should all be drinking 8 glasses of 
water a day.  An average "glass" is 150-250 ml.

Scott.
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From: s871780@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Antony Suter)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: 387 chip for sale
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:35:03 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

I have a Cyrix 387 chip for sale. Speed 33MHz. Selling cause my motherboard
is now a 40Mhz. Is faster than the Intel 387. Email below. Phone
(03) 7363603. ie. Location Melbourne.
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From: robertp@ausom.oz.au (Robert Pascale)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality games in Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:00:29 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne
Keywords: virtual-reality, video-games

alan@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Alan To) writes:


>Does anyone know of any places in Australia (Sydney, Canberra or Melbourne
>really) where you can play games of virtual reality with eyephones etc.

>I have seen one mentioned on the news and on 'Beyond 2000' some time ago
>that was in Sydney, but they never mentioned exactly where it was.

At the new SouthGate in Melbourne (along the banks of the Yarra River),
the Virtual Reality machines are there (2 of them). I have not played them
yet as it takes about an hour of waiting in a queue. For $5 you get a 3
minute game... (it takes longer because you have to be setup etc...)

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