HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pro-apa.cts.com!bkogawa (Bryan Ogawa)
Subject: Re: Neat Stufz
Organization: AppleWorks Programmers' Association - (213) 463-9289 300-1200-2400
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:31:32 GMT

Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but it's GNO MultiTasking, and it's not
publicly distributable...
as for trying to get stuff, you should look for another newsgroup called
"comp.binaries.apple2" . If you have it, then you can get the files on
there given a program called BINSCII...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bryan K. Ogawa  Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering Major, UCLA
                Jesus has done great things for me!     II Infinitum
bkogawa@pro-palmtree.socal.com <-School Yr.  All Yr.-> bkogawa@pro-apa.cts.com
--------------> From Pro-APA BBS,  (213) 463-9298 (D/CALAN) <-----------------
From: debora@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Deborah Alcorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:16:25 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA


  I have an idea - instead of arguing forever and a day about the 
 moderation why not set aside a week -say  August 9 to the 15th and 
 everyone vote Yea or Nea.  Then on the 17th or so count up your votes
 and get your answer!!
    Go get em guys!!!
/es
----
ProLine:  debora@pro-applejacks
Internet: debora@pro-applejacks.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-applejacks!debora
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: max@isis.eng.hou.compaq.com (Max Heffler)
Subject: Re: Launching Appleworks question
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:16:09 GMT

I have been having a strange problem when lauching Appleworks 3.0.  The first
time I launch it things are fine.  Thereafter, everytime I launch it, it
crashes into the monitor, yet a Control-reset reenters it and I can continue
just fine.  I have an Apple 2 GS, with 4M Ram, ZipGS 10 MHZ, RamFast SCSI
with Maxtor 760 M drive and Archive Viper 150/250M tape drive.  Oh yeah,
I have a Rom 01 and I am still having corruption problems with my RamFast
Rev D 3.0h ROM.  The repeatability of the AW problem and the randomness
of the RamFast corruption makes me believe my problem is elsewhere.
I believe I had this problem when I used the "Boot finder without DA's"
boot sequence.  Any ideas?  Any body else see something like this?
Thanx in advance...
-- 
Max Heffler, Senior Software Engineer   internet: max@compaq.com
Compaq Computer Corporation             uucp: ..!uunet!max@compaq.com
P.O. Box 692000 - M050701               phone: (713) 378-8366
Houston, Texas  77269-2000              fax:   (713) 374-7305
"The views expressed here are my own, and not those of my employer."
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Avatar
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:39:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri Jul 24 92 at 17:42:38 (EST)

>> On the other hand,
should the Avatar pan out then many things could happen. That would be
a very graceful way for Apple to partially bow out of the GS world. <<

It's been my experience with the company that such a thing would make them
WANT to make a new GS.  The //c+ is the best example I can come up with.  It
would be hard to explain about the other things I feel porve my point, as they
are just the general attitude of the company.  Of course, that attitude has
been changing lately.

---------------------------------------------
ncp                          ncp@gnh-cathouse
                             ncp@gnh-starport
---------------------------------------------
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SoniqTracker .52 & ModZap .80
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:32:32 GMT

Something that would be nice is if there were a filetype for mods... but
the type would generally get nixed in transit.  Still, if there were a
type set aside, II users could assign mods this type and then wouldn't
have to have "MOD." or ".MOD" in the name, freeing a valuable 4 characters
for better names...

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd     | ACM Member | Apple II Alliance Charter Member | 
----------------------------------+-----------------------------------
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu | Use FahrWorks & watch the sparks
America Online: Sheppy            | fly!      - Fahr Corp. Slogan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimc@sdf.lonestar.org (Jim Cahill)
Subject: Jpeg for the GS
Summary: is there one?
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Distribution: World
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:51:43 GMT

I finally got around to UUDecoding some Gifs from the Binaries and am
looking for a JPeg Viewer for the GS?  Does on Exist?  I remember a
couple months back reading about a Jpeg compressor for the GS but
cant remember if it was also a Viewer?

Well only 3 days till Kfest expo!  Hope to see a lot of people there!

Jim
From: danw@mitchell.hac.com (Dan White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Help ! Mac Font Conversion to GS
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:06:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Society for the Prevention of Paronomastic Defenestration

In article <1992Jul22.221644.25276@ecst.csuchico.edu>, jcrane@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Crane) writes:
|> I need hepl remembering the apple IIGS utility that is capable of
|> extracting mac fonts from mac suitcases
|> 
|> so that once extracted they can be used in GSOS

   It's easier to arrange your fonts in suitcases on a Mac, then 
put the Mac disk into your System 6.0 GS, and copy the files across.

  Then all you need do is set the file type ($C8, aux $0001)

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                               Dan White
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Sometimes  I  think  the  surest  sign  that  intelligent  life exists
 elsewhere  in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
                                                  Calvin (Bill Waterson)
From: TEFFTA@TSENGR.dnet.ge.com (Andrew Tefft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: answers to mousetext & hyperc problems
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:53:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Through some playing around and some helpful info from a few people, this
is what I have figured out:

1) in hyperc, placing a visible cursor on a mousetext character has the
   effect of changing the mousetext to inverse uppercase.

2) in hyperc, printing a `\n' causes the cursor position to move to
   the leftmost column, and then down one position. This has the effect
   of wiping out any mousetext in column 1 if you print a \n at the end of
   that line.

3) Making the cursor invisible, and making it visible again only after the
   newline is printed, will prevent the wiping out of mousetext.

4) Mousetext characters are stored in screen memory as the ascii uppercase
   characters with the high bit cleared, or in that range (e.g. the open apple
   is stored as a 65). Inverse uppercase characters are in the range 1-26 
   (or thereabouts), and normal uppercase are stored as their ascii values
   with the high bit set. This means that one can directly query the screen
   memory and immediately know whether the character there is mousetext or not.

5) printing the characters retrieved from screen memory (in hyperc) will
   not produce mousetext. Directly storing them to screen memory WILL
   produce mousetext, or inverse, or normal, i.e. whatever *was* there
   can be put back there by directly storing it in screen memory. To actually
   *print* a mousetext character requires printing characters 15 (inverse mode),
   27 (start mousetext), uppercase characters, then 14 (turn off inverse, if
   desired), 24 (turn off mousetext).
From: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta - SysOp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Launching Appleworks question
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:09:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-desert], Greg DaCosta (Sysop)

In <1992Jul26.030308.12511@hubcap.clemson.edu>
dpj@hubcap.clemson.edu (D. Pokrass Jacobs) writes:

>I am using Appleworks GS 1.1.
>Is it true that Appleworks can be launched
>from the Finder by simply double-clicking
>any Appleworks document?  When I try this,
>the computer seems to be trying to access the
>floppy disk drive rather than the hard drive,
>and then I get an error like "Application Appleworks.GS
>not found".  Any advice?

The only way that double clicking on a document icon works is if the launch
path for the icon is correctly set to the location of AppleWorks GS.  If you
have DICED or ICONED you should be able to change the path to Appleworks GS
so that it can be launched when one or more icons are double-clicked.

Greg



    /\ |\  Pro-Desert BBS  (619/251-1297) 300-14400
    \> |/  Internet: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com

Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:17791 news.groups:15992
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
Subject: Re: Comp.binaries.apple2 moderation: why not?
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:51:41 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Jul23.023214.7030@ils.nwu.edu> chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes:
>Tell me something...did you see a post that explained how the IBM moderated
>group is _dead_?  Do you not think this a valid reason for _not_ having
>moderation here for cba2?  Sure, I can believe Jawaid will do a good a job
>as he _can_ and I also understand all the rationale...but it still doesn't
>give me an assurance I need for this issue.

No, I didn't see it. If it was there, I apologize. I agree, now you
presented a reason (see, I can accept reasons for 'against').

But is it a reason for me? No. I'm not convinced that moderation is the
cause (btw, how is it implemented? What's the charter?).

Or, let me put it this way: if you want me to consider that this _might_
happen, then I want you to consider the possibility that within 5
years somebody will spread a virus and hundreds of users will lose all
their data.
-- 
-Tero Sand
  EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi     Snail mail: Auroran Sairaala os. 6-1
  (if that doesn't work, try                    Nordenskioldinkatu 20
   cust_ts@kruuna.helsinki.fi)                  00250 Helsinki 25, Finland
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Any interest in a program to learn vocabulary/foreign languages?
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Just wondering if there would be any interest out there in a program I
wrote many years ago to drill people in languages and definitions.  It
comes with 5 languages, also you can create your won vocabulary lists.
You can study words, or quiz yourself.  Keeps track of what you
get right and wrong, and will keep drilling you on the ones you get 
wrong until you get them right 2 times (I think).  

If anybody is interested in aquiring the program, or better yet in
buying the rights to the program, please let me know.  

Jason Osborne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: pro-palmtree!rstern (Ryan Stern)
Subject: Comp.Binaries etc...
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/450-9394 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:32:20 GMT

um, I got a question.... whats all this about comp.binaries.Apple2 (or
something like that...)  I can't seem to find it on Pro-Palmtree... is it
availible to ALL internet feeds?????

                              R>S>
                    -=-=-Apple ][ Forever-=-=-

                                              The quest for knowledge?


-----
UUCP: hatch!pro-palmtree!rstern                    The Palmtree BBS
Inet: rstern@pro-palmtree.socal.com                310-450-9394 v.32
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Amiga.FST
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:52:06 GMT

In article <52@generic.UUCP> taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao) writes:
>philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes...
>>
>>Has the A500 been dropped?
>
>    Replaced by the A600 which so far seems to be receiving mixed reviews
>(low cost, but practically everything is soldered; brings up questions
>regarding system expansion).

Since I asked that question I've looked into it more. Some British Amiga
magazines claim production of the A500 has stopped. C= has not said
anything to that effect.
 
The A600 has received very positive reviews, in part due to the PCMCIA
slot (which will help with the piracy issue) and the built in IDE
controller for inexpensive drives. At the US price, one shouldn't be
thinking of expanding this into a Video Toaster computer. As it is, the
PCMCIA slot provides a lot of expansion possiblities, there will be
a CDTV compatible drive for the A600 in the fall (W of C), IDE HD's are
becoming very inexpensive and small.
 
The A600 may not suit the emulator people, but then again you don't buy 
such a computer for those purposes.
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: multi-tasking GNO
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:26:11 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:
: I remember reading from ORCA manuals about the new Finder allocate 4k of
: stack... but I guess switching among 3 or 4 application is still not
: impossible, right?
: 
: I still don't understand about "where stack and direct pate space can be access
: by the processor"... little more detail?!

     O.K.  A brief rundown is as follows:

     The stack register is a 16 bit register.  What this means is that it
can only run from 0000 -> FFFF.  This means it needs to stay in bank 0.
The stack cannot run into, lets say, 010000 because of it's size.  On the
8 bit 65XXX processors it was only 8 bits and limited from 00 -> FF.  The
01 page was set already for it.  The direct page register is  essentially
the same thing.  Of course, the direct page is only one page long (unless
you move it) and stack can run the whole range.  When a program is loaded
it is given a 4k stack and direct page with the stack growing torward the
direct page.(That is unless you have your own direct page segment in your
program.)  This is the best way to think about it without getting into 
all the addressing and page aligned stuff.

: btw, does every NDA, CDev require some stack from bank 0?

  They are definitely going to have a direct page and a stack.  This is a
processor requirement.  They are always set to something.  They are also
going to require it because every call to a tool needs some and for that
matter every jsr or jsl needs it.  Where they get it?  How much is
allocated for them on entry or wether they need to allocate it themselves?
Not sure, never looked into it or written one.  Someone else......?  Of 
course, you can always see where the stack is by doing a tsc.
 
: Thanx.
: 
: frank m. lin
: internet: fmlin@terapin.com
: symmetrix...
-- 
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Gary F. Desrochers        INTERNET: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu
                           GENIE:    G.Desrochers
 Any comments/complaints on Disk Witch tell me.  Apple II Forever!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:06:05 EDT
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Three-D Fractal Cel Animation& Compression

This past weekend, I got my first 3-D fractal animation to work properly.  This
version can work on any Apple ][ with gobs of memory.  What I would like to
know is if someone has a good Differential Image Compression routine already
worked out.  Eventually, When I learn enough ORCA/M I will put this in full
GS mode, but for now I am polishing up the algorithms.

Ken
From: glennl@pro-beagle.cts.com (Glenn Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HELP /W HD
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:56:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Beagle Bros, Inc. Product Support BBS -- 619/558-6151

TRY SHRINKIT, it has an option to zero out prodos block perhaps that will
work
From: flaforest@vtrm01.uucp (Fred LaForest)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Tybalt files in SHK format (BINSCII)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:07:26 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Vickers, Inc. - Troy, MI, USA

In article <1992Jul19.114658.14310@cas.org>, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>>I work VAX systems and have a version of SCIIBIN which I use to process BSC
>>>Is there a Xenix/386 version of SCIIBIN? That would be really handy here, to
> 
> The code for SCIIBIN and BSC are in C.  There aren't 'versions' of it - its
> C, just compile it on the machine and use it.

I have found a "version" of BSC on TYBALT.  Thanks to all who pointed me
in that direction.

Obviously, my usage of the term "version" was not crystal clear. :-P The term
"version", as used in my original post, was referring to code which was
targeted for a particular operating system.

Where the C program meets the operating system is where the fun begins.  I
believe the term programmers use is "port", changing a C program into a C
program.  On VAX/VMS systems, the file creation/open calls have an extra
argument(s).  That extra argument will change the performance of your 
program DRASTICALLY (the wrong way).

C is C.  (Unless it's BDS C, Small C, VAX C, DECUS C, GNU C, Microsoft C,
Borland C, MANX C, Portable C, ANSI C, ORCA C, APW C, Whitesmith C, etc. :->
-- 
Fred LaForest                     UUCP:  vtrm01!flaforest
VMS/UNISYS 1100/UNIX/(Whatever else we have in the building) System Programmer
Vickers, Inc.                    GEnie:  FALAFOREST
Troy, MI  48007-0302
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: MUSIC WRITER GS information needed!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:22:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.044954.3346@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:

[ ]
>
>Also, I forgot to mention earlier, the version I had couldn't input
>lyrics although the manual said so.  Any attempt to input lyrics on the
>score will corrupt EVERYTHING!  So be warned!  I don't know if Pyware
>has an upgraded version of Music Writer so you'll have to check that out
>yourself.  But all I can say is that if you're willing to bear with the
>inconvenience, the program does work!

Pyware did upgrade MusicWriter to version 2.0 and supported 5.0x. They added
midi, miditranslators (which don't work properly) and fixed quite a few things.
I'm not sure if they still support the GS as I haven't heard anything from
them since 6.0. It's a pretty good program, although they did charge way too
much for it. I suspect that for entering musical scores one would be much
better off doing it on a PC or a Mac and a full page monitor. The output of
MW Pro is very good though as it uses the Adobe Sonata font. Tough call...
 
What would be nice would be a midi (standard) translator which would take 
files from other systems and translate them into SL or DT sequences.

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:18103 news.groups:16212
From: taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.sys.newton(was RFD: alt.apple.newton)
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:30:02 GMT
Reply-To: taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao)
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Terra*Net Technologies Corp Toronto

kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes...
>
>And if Apple or anybody else tries to market a device with the Newton name on
>it, expect a trademark infringment suit from the Nabisco Co. which has held a
>trademark on that name for over 100 years.

    I doubt it.  Nabisco's "Newton" and Apple's "Newton" are in non-
overlapping markets.  I don't think you can sue in that situation.  What
product gives Nabisco its copyright?  Fig Newtons?
-- 
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,news.groups
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: Out of This World
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:01:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.174957.25466@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cshepher@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Shepherd) writes:
>
>| Chris Shepherd Starving Programmer  | cd119@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu |
>|    Ask me about Impasse //gs        | cshepher@nyx.cs.du.edu      |

Ok...what's Impasse IIGS? B-)
I've seen the demo, but it doesn't really give any sort of indication of
what sort of game this is/will be.


-- 
Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Your god drinks...P-P-Peach nectar!"
                        '
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Looking4 PD C-compilier+src
Keywords: 6502 C compilier+source
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:09:50 GMT

In article <meek.712217057@fizzy> meek@fizzy.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Lindsay Meek) writes:
>Hello Apple People,
>	I'm looking for an operational PD-C compilier for the 6502. Is there   
>anybody out there that knows of one and the site that contains it...
>Adios,
>	Lindsay Meek (meek@fizzy.csu.murdoch.edu.au)
>

Try Hyper-C.  It can be found on tybalt.caltech.edu I believe.

--
From: usr6473a@TSO.UC.EDU (Christopher Tarnowieckyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Help ! PFS:File to ProDos/AppleWorks
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:22:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> Is there any way to export PFS:File data files to any ProDos or
> AppleWorks format ? I have the CrossWorks product that transfers
> ProDos/AppleWorks files over to an IBM PC but it cannot read the
> PFS:File disks. Any help or pointers is much appreciated !
> 
~
> Damien Thwaites                           Tel    : (65) 279-8947
> Information Technology Department         Email  : thwaites@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.co
m
> Hewlett-Packard Singapore                 Fax    : (65) 279-2862
> 1150 Depot Road, SINGAPORE 0410.          HPDesk : Damien Thwaites /HP3200/0
9
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~
> 
 tried to mail you an answer direct but it bounced. The program you need
is available at wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) via FTP. It's in the
/usenet/apple2/Util directory and it's called 'pfs.to.txt.bsq'

-- 
____________________________________________________________________________

I beleive that another option would be to make use of the Pascal FST in 
system 6.0.  As I remember, PFS was run under the USCD Pascal Operating
system, so one should be able to copy the PFS files from the PFS disks to
a GS/OS volume.  Then one could try changing the file type to TEXT with
a file editor and see if the resulting file is usable.  It might be that
PFS stored the data files in Pascal Text files in which case I beleive the
6.0 system software will correctly identify it as a text file and copy it
as a text file, so one wouldn't even have to get dirty with file editors.

Christopher
usr6473a@tso.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2