From: root@machost (Operator)
Subject: AUX 3.0 and the New VX
Organization: Novell, Inc.
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:40:19 GMT

Just thought that a few of you out there would like to know about the IIVX 
and AUX 3.0...

First the issues that have been flying...

1. the VX uses only a 16 bit memory bus - UNTRUE... it uses the same
	memory bus structure that the CI does, with the exception of 
	changes to incorporate the cache card on to the Cpu board.
	This is per the dealer support line that was contacted when I became
	paranoid over my choise in ordering a IIVX instead of a trusty IICi

2. the VX memory bus runs at 1/2 speed of the processor clock... UNTRUE
	again the same as the IICI it runs at the same 32 Mhz as the processor,
	and again this was obtained from the dealer support network.

3. Aux may not run on the IIVX - UNTRUE ... IT MOST DEFINITELY WILL NOT EVEN
	INSTALL ON THE VX... SORRY FOR THE BAD NEWS.

I talked with the dealer support line and their answer on this was the 
following:

"There are NO (very interesting statement) new releases that will be done
on AUX 3.0.  Since the VX will require a new release to correct the differ-
ences of the hardware, THE IIVX WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED UNDER AUX 3.0."

That is the official statement.. so ... What does that mean... is AUX 3.0 
dead... no more releases... no more fixes... what?  According to Apple it
appears to be dead.  I find this rather DISGUSTING for the following 
reasons:
	1.	All platforms that AUX 3.0 runs on except the Quadra
		are either currently discontinued or are planned to be 
		discontinued (rumor has it that the IICI will go away in
		early 93)... so if you want AUX you have a SINGLE PLATFORM
	2.	Recently Apple sent out a mail order catalog which listed
		AUX as a product that you could buy... $695 I think was the 
		price... looked good ... BUT the add said "AUX is 
		supported on the SE/30, ALL Macintosh II models, and the 
		QUADRA models... 

		WELL, APPLE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT THE IIVX IS A 
		MACINTOSH II MODEL IS IT NOT !!!??? AND YOU ADVERTISE IT 
		IN THE VERY SAME CATALOG AS THE AUX 3.0 OFFERING !!!!!!!!

		So if you are listening Apple... lets get together on 
		what you are selling.  I bought this VX based on the fact 
		that Apple advertised AUX to be supported.
	3.	I spoke with another Apple person who indicated that the 
		release dates on the new Quadras (lower prices have been 
		indicated) are going to be delayed... That means that I
		either buy a IICI to run AUX and loose a large part of my
		investment when or if it is discontinued, or I buy a Quadra
		at the high price today only to have it devalue in the face
		of them more powerful, or less expensive new machines.
		I know this is not an unusual situation, but it is annoying.

Now what can we do about all of this...


Well if Apple is going to make the Quadra the baseline AUX system, they
need to be open with all of us and Announce it !!.  Then we can all make
a good decision.
Talking to an Application Engineer with Apple I have been made aware that 
the best way to get changes out of Apple is to let them know IN MASS that 
we are not happy.   This AUX situation that is happening is certainly
not going to heip sale for Apple in the face of the other Unix's that
are being released.  Take for example the USL/Novell entry in the market
UNIXWARE... similar price to AUX, runs on almost any PC_Compatable and 
has 3 great, very nicely implemented GUI interfaces....


APPLE IF YOU ARE LISTENING.. lets talk marketting here.... you are cutting
your own throat over AUX.

	


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