HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krishnar@weiss.cs.unc.edu (Rajarama Krishnan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
Subject: blocking requests
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:44:50 GMT
Distribution: usa

In my ISIS application a process has to join a process group. It has to get
some data from the group. I didnt put that in the state transfer routine
because I am also using logging and I dont want all this data to be passed
during logging. To get around problem, what I am doing is join the group and
then get the data separately. But this causes a problem. I start getting
requests even before I have transferred this data. How can I avoid this?
Is there anyway of blocking requests after the pg_join till I explicitly
allow the requests to come? Or is there anyway of running this job even
before the pg_join returns? Note that I am not doing this pg_join in the
maintask. Then the solution would have been simple. I am doing this in an
entry.

Thank you.

Rajaraman
From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Subject: Re: ISIS Project Summary - Missing Viewgraph
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:23:11 GMT

Just a word of explanation for the project summary Maureen posted
yesterday.  Isis receives research funding from the government in
support of our theoretical work and the development of a new version
of the system, closely integrated with OSF 1/AD (a.k.a. Mach 3.0) and
Chorus (a.k.a. UI Atlas, I suppose).  We do annual project summaries
for DARPA, our funding organization, and since I get a fair amount of
mail asking about our current work, I felt that we might just as well
post the 1992 version of the summary.

Let us know if you have any questions or need a hard copy.

-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
From: ken@cs.cornell.edu (Ken Birman)
Subject: IP multicast
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:18:04 GMT

I got mail asking me to post a status report on the use of hardware
multicast within Isis.

Our original work on this was based on the "raw ethernet" interface
for multicast and hence had to deal with a lot of complexity, such
as routing and packet fragmentation.  We have a working but perhaps
not "production strength" ethernet multicast transport protocol for
Isis in hand now.

However, while work was being done on this, Sun announced support
for a more general IP multicast interface in Solaris 2.0 and beyond.
This greatly simplifies the problem of building a transport protocol
for Isis, since routing and fragmentation are handled in the OS (on
the down side, packet loss is probably higher unless flow control is
done very carefully).  

I am currently rewriting the multicast transport, basically by modifying
the tcp transport protocol that we provide as a demo of the isis_transport
interface.  The resulting code should be simpler, more robust, and
available later this year.  However, it will initially require a Solaris
environment, since other vendors have not yet announced support for
IP multicast.  I am hopeful that they will track Sun on this one, though:
it is obviously in everybody's interest to use the same approach for
this level of the system, and in any case the vendors are all working
from an initial (free) software module developed at Stanford by Deering
and Cheriton...

-- 
Kenneth P. Birman                              E-mail:  ken@cs.cornell.edu
4105 Upson Hall, Dept. of Computer Science     TEL:     607 255-9199 (office)
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (USA)      FAX:     607 255-4428
From: mach@ztivax.UUCP (Juergen Schmitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.isis
Subject: crash discovery in ISIS
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:45:43 GMT
Organization: Siemens AG, Munich, W-Germany

Hello,
after reading some of your documents describing ISIS I would like to know,
how your site failure detection works. Is this simply done by polling a node
and waiting a while for an answer or are there sophisticated protocols for
recognizing a crashed site?
It would be great if you can give me hints about papers describing this.

Best regards
Juergen

email to  juergen@km21.zfe.siemens.de
.
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:44:10 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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To:
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Needed: synthLAB file format
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:49:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

Well, I got this info elsewhere so I don't need it anymore.  Thanks to Mike
Nuzzi for making up a great HCGS stack that explains everything you need to
know about MIDISynth :)


-- 
   _IanSchmidt(oINet+irsman@iastate.edu,oBITNET+twbv4@isuvax,$C000,Data)
     Data  dc i'Apple IIgs,Rush,Tiny Toons,Dave Barry,David Letterman'
 "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will" - Neil Peart
From: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: soundmaster?
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:14:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <11SEP199214411629@alpha.sunquest.com> rjd@alpha.sunquest.com (Robert J. Dull) writes:
>My friends Mac has a program called SoundMaster that allows him to
>replace the standard system beeps & whistles with more "intersting"
>sounds.  Is there anything like that for the GS?  If so where can
>I get it and where can I get some sounds to play?  
>
>rjd@alpha.sunquest.com

Use System 6's Sound Control Panel, which you can find on one of the
System 6 disks. If you don't already have System 6, get it! :-) You
can ftp it from ftp.apple.com:/dts/aii/sys.soft/gs.system.6/*.bsc

System 6 comes with a couple of sounds, and there are a couple of
programs out that convert from raw binary sound files to the rSound
format that the Sound CP uses:
  cco.caltech.edu:/pub/apple2/sound/RAWTORES1.0.SHK - requires an Orca
compatible shell such as Orca or GNO.
  cco.caltech.edu:/pub/apple2/addons/rsounder13.bsq

Also, there are some sounds that you can convert in
/pub/apple2/sound/SoundSamples (mostly taken from movies).

Hope this helps!
-- 
David Huang                                 |
Internet: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu          | "Microwaves: They're not just
UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!daveh   |     for cooking anymore."
America Online: DrWho29                     |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: Re: weather.shk...
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:50:28 GMT

In article <698@alchemy.UUCP> steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter) writes:
>Did you try the open Apple to see if it showed the file?

I'm the original poster asking why I couldn't unshrink this or weathergs.shk
off of ccosun (nee tybalt).

I don't know what steven@alchemy means by 'try the open apple.' Could he
or some one else elaborate for me, please? 

(I tried emailing and it bounced.)

Thanks,

Chris
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: soundmaster?
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:35:07 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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To:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Flopticals...any successful usage out there?
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:24:45 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: Floptical, Insite, SCSI

In article <1992Sep5.224214.16452@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
> lang@cs.tulane.edu (Raymond Lang) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Sep3.045719.10600@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
> >>1. Tulin is final-testing an Apple SCSI driver for the Floptical. This would
> >>be GS/OS only, and while I remember hearing that the current SCSI.Manger will
> >>work with the Rev.C card, I am not certain.
> 
> >So I wouldn't be able to use this from a PC-Transporter, since that runs
> >under P8; or would I just have to make sure that I launched AEPC from GS/OS?
> 
> I don't know exactly how the PCT operates -- maybe somebody else can answer
> this one. The RamFast (rom version 2.01 or later) will use the floptical from
> both GS/OS and P8; it functions but it is not seamless. I am working on getting
> CVT to support it but they are not being too cooperative just yet.

The PCT accesses drives on the Apple side of the system as if they were
PC floppy drives.  You can have up to four floppies (A: through D:).
The disk must be in PC format, i.e. the first block has the MS-DOS
boot record, including information about the number of sectors, sides
and cylinders used by the disk.
The PCT BIOS fakes the appropriate BIOS parameter blocks, so most PC
software won't care about unusual disk sizes.  In most cases, you end
up with a disk that has a few non-existant sectors, which are marked
as "bad" in the file allocation table, but don't actually exist.

All these drives are accessed using READ_BLOCK and WRITE_BLOCK calls
to the MLI.  Formatting one of these disks causes the PCT software to
call the device's ProDOS block driver's FORMAT routine.


The only support the PCT has for "hard drives" is a file on a ProDOS
volume, which contains the image of a PC hard drive, including
partition table.  The PCT uses standard ProDOS MLI calls (OPEN, READ,
WRITE, SET_MARK, etc.) to access these.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: e.hedlund@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Eric Hedlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Request: whither Sharedata?
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:08:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: [ProLine] The Algonquin Round Table. - Minneapolis/St. Paul

In <p7hn=zc.masstor@netcom.com>
masstor@netcom.com (Masstor Systems Corp) writes:

>Reply-to:slan@west.darkside.com
>
>My legal, but never registered, copy of Sharedata'a Classic Concentration
>has died of bit rot.  This leaves my 4-year-old quite distraught (He's

Excuse me, but what on earth is "bit rot?"  I've never heard of this before. 
It doesn't sound very pleasant...



----  Eric Hedlund
"To blow and swallow         ProLine:  e.hedlund@pro-algonquin
at the same moment           Internet: e.hedlund@pro-algonquin.cts.com
is not easy."                UUCP:     crash!pro-algonquin!e.hedlund
  -- Titus Maccius Plautus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: Re: Renaissance...
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 02:43:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.035415.3086@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters) writes:
>From article <m0mQaYv-0000dEC@crash.cts.com>, by kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan):
>>> From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
>>> In article <m0mP9WM-0000NpC@crash.cts.com> ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal
>>> Pitts) writes: >>> Will Harmonie drive DeskWriter? <<
>>> >
>>> >Harmonie will drive DeskWriter.  If the add says it will drive DeskJet, then
>>> >don't worry because the DeskJet and the Desk Writer are the same printer;
>>> one >for the Mac (Writer) and one for the PC (Jet).
>>> 
>>> The DW and the DJ are not the same printer ( direct from HP technical
>>> support). It's not just an issue of different coloured cases.
>> 
>> Correct. The DeskWriter is a Mac specific beast that has an Appletalk
>> interface. It won't work from ProDOS 8, but can be used from GS/OS if one uses
>> the DeskJET driver PLUS the high speed serial PORT driver the Bill Heineman
>> wrote. 
>> 
Sorry for the long attribution, I couldn't figure out the best way to edit
this... Anyway, the Deskjet/writer choice has been on my mind lately.

Where I can I find the high speed PORT driver by Bill Heineman?

Thanks,

Chris

>
>Also, there are two other options that work with the DeskJet:
>
>1. Independence drives the DeskJet for  16 bit programs
>
>2. SuperPatch 8.0 has a driver for AppleWorks 3.0 that results in
>   STUNNING text if the P1 option is chosen in your WP file.
>
>One caveat about SuperPatch, it sends the wrong ESC codes in one
>case for some versions of SuperPatch. It sends a 1 rather than a l (one
>rather than a L). This has been reported to Quality Computers. As far
>as I know, they WILL release and updated version. The further good news
>is, you can correct it from the Appleworks printer menus AFTER you
>install the drivers if you have an older version.
>
>The "more better news is," the printer works with ProTerm, etc., dumps
>to PR#1. Buy it, it is GREAT!
>-- 
>
>
>				Joe Walters att!ihlpw!bird   
>				IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
From: pbauer@athena.mit.edu (Paul H Bauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Bi-directional parallel ports??
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:45:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


>to all my knowledge, there is no bi.directional parallel card for the
>//. Strange, really, as it would be so easy to do ... basically a parallel
>controller and a GAL, plus an EPROM for the firmware.
>
>Soenke

I have at least two such cards that will do this. They were manufactured by California Computer Systems in the early eighties. They are model 7720.


	pbauer@athena.mit.edu
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: more about my proterm...
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:36:38 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Sep 13 92 at 23:00:25 (EST)

> From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
> Frank... I had the same problem... until I took my modem back and bought a
> Practical Periphals 14.4.....  Insync does not currently have a
> "handshaking" driver that will fully support the flow on/off signals from
> the Zoom V32/V42.bis series modems.... and according to the guy I talked to
> are not planning on doing one....

Oh. That was brilliant, going with the Practical Peripherals 14.4 <insert
HEAVY sarcasm>. Greg posted a conversation he had with PP about getting one of
their modems so that he could create a driver for it. The short of it is that
he never got the modem, PP claimed (repeatedly) that he never contacted them,
and there is no driver for it. 

                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)
         {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}
      * "This is Rumor Control, and here are the facts." (Alien 3) *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Modula-2 for the Apple IIGS
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.094243.22947@nuscc.nus.sg> ltchean@iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean) writes:
> 
> Anybody wants C++? I really like to see that for GS!

Yes, it would be nice.  Don't get your hopes up, though.  ByteWorks
haven't got all the bugs out of ORCA/C yet, so just imagine how many
there would be in an "ORCA/C++".
Another factor is the time it would take to write a C++ compiler.
Porting a freeware one from another platform may be an option, but the
code generator would need to be rewritten.  More bugs!

If Byte Works could justify the license fee, they could get AT&T's
front-end C++ pre-compiler and feed the output of that into ORCA/C.  I
think the license fee is something like US$25,000, and there aren't
enough copies of ORCA/C out there to justify it.

It could be a different story for Apple.  They've already licensed the
AT&T code for use with MPW C++.  I don't know how the license fee is
structured, but it is possible that Apple could write a C++ front end
for APW C without forking out a lot more money.  Somehow I don't think
this will happen either.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: FOR SALE
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

For sale:

1 IIGS ROM 01 (with the AE RAM CARD w/ 1.5 megs expandable to 3.5)
1 IIGS RBG MONITOR
2 3.5 Drives IIGS.
1 5.25 Drive IIGS.
1 STAR NX-1000C printer with ribbons.
1 SONIC BLASTER sound Card by AE.
100 disks.
4 Originals.
Original Manuals.
Grappler Pro Parrallel Interface.
etc..

$1200 Canadian Funds!
From: fjs@cci632.cci.com (Francis Schwalm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple Stupidity (was Re: Where does ProDOS come from?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:01:24 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <2758@news.cerf.net> mdj@nic.cerf.net (Mark de Jong) writes:
>
>ProDOS 8 v1.9 is on the System 5.0.4 disk, I believe. And that system is
>available at ftp.apple.com; at least last time I checked.
>
>	-- Mark

And apparently ProDOS 2.0.1 can be found in the system 6 disk at the same
site.

Which is completely useless to those of us without an Apple ][ gs.

Does anybody have ANY idea how a person who has an unexpanded model 3 apple
][c with two 5-1/4 disk drives can extract a single file from an 800K -disk-
archive?  If anybody out there ever figures out a way for me to do that,
tell me, because it's currently impossible.  How the hell does apple expect
me to do it?

I'm gonna be completely blunt here.  Whatever stupidity ever possessed apple
to release it that way?  The idea behind the name ProDOS -8- is 8-bit, right?
So how come only the apple users who have a GS can get a hold of it?  If you
don't have a GS you can't get it, EVEN THOUGH it was designed to be used by
the 8-bit apple ]['s.  I hope apple has a whopper of an explanation...

I'm gonna ask again:  Can someone AT apple put ProDOS 2.0.1 on ftp.apple.com
for those of us who have trouble fitting an 800K disk in a 140K floppy.

		Nutrocker --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@cobra.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: Textronix emulation
Keywords: GS telecom emulation tektronix
Reply-To: mmunson@cobra.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:22:13 GMT

I'd like to add Tektronix emulation to my GS term program (yes, it has a full desktop with
fast screen scrolling).  I've nearly got all of the VT-100 stuff in place, and Kermit is
on the agenda.  What I'm lacking in information on Tektronix emulation codes.

Can anyone upload or E-mail information on what Tek requires for emulation?

I'd need a beta tester for this feature, since I don't have any Tek terminals at my current
location.

[MGM]
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Direct keyboard read
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:51:33 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC  CANADA


The problem of doing a direct keyboard read from Pascal presented a while
ago is not in Pascal, but is an omission in the .CONSOLE driver. If Apple
made the console driver, it is to be used and all text screen I/O should
go through it. Yet there is no routine for a -Single character read
                                             -With cursor.
This forces programmers to go to the hardware. This is exactly what Apple
doesn't want. Maybe I'm missing something? Maybe not.

phil
vandry@champlain.cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: feiges@cae.wisc.edu (Howard Feiges)
Subject: Binscii and Unix
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:40:30 CDT

Hello people - its feiges here

I have a question regarding binscii...

When I get an apple IIGS file from an FTP site, I download it to my account -
and then I download it to my computer with z-modem - and then I have 
to use the program BINSCII to convert this program to a shrinkit file, and
then I have to use shrinkit to unshrink the file...

Okay, perfect - except for one thing:

A Binscii file is like double the size of a regular file......

What I was wondering was - if theere was a way to un-binscii a file ON MY
UNIX ACCOUNT - before downloading.....  so then I can download the program
in half the time adn not have to worry about using more disk space --- etc..

I know for the macintosh - I have this UNIX utility called mcvert - which
will take a macintosh binscii'd file and then convert it to a MacBinary
file - which then downloads into my Mac with the proper filetype and icon
and everything.........   

Is there something similar that will unbinscii a file for the GS on unix??

uudecode doesnt seem to do it.......

coolish  - please get back to me:

Howard Feiges

feiges@cae.wisc.edu

TPK
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: FAX software for the GS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:05:08 GMT

Are there any FAX software available for the GS?  I am looking for sendFAX,
receive FAX would be a nice dream, though...

I know of two companies that have/will have SendFAX on the GS, one is
AE's DataLink FAX modem, (saw the thing at the LongBeach AppleFest couple
of years ago,) and I think Quality Computer will soon have Send Fax
on their Q-modems (which are SupraModems with Q-stickers, I think :)

Just a thought:

The FinderExtension TeachReader seem to have problems with large files, I
can't get any files around or greater than 90K+ to open, it always
returns with a Can't allocate memory error, and I have 6.25 megs GS with
no ramdisk...

If there is a fix/newer version, please let me know.  I am currently using
EGOed for reading files.

Jimmy

P.S. yes, I am annoyed at all the junk mails from POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
too, but I think it's just some new-comer who haven't figure out the
posting software yet... Well, if you can read this, good luck, and ask
for help from your local consultant, or read the manpage...



--
Jimmy Shaw			 RamFAST, ZipGSX and 6.0... Apple II Forever!
jimmys@ics.uci.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Thanks and one more question...
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:21:03 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Thanks to all of you who replied to an earlier request for help reguarding
BINSCII, I have now gotten into the files at caltech and other places.  After a
pitched battle between me on my apple, the VAX at the university, and I think a
SUN at caltech, I finally was able to convince everyone that it was OK to
transfer files error-free.  Thank you for your help.

One last question -- I have a //c, not a gs.  I am having some difficulty
figuring out what is gs only, and what will work on a //c.  Some are obvious.
(gsfinder_patch, hypercardstuff, etc) but some are not. (photonix) Is there
anyone that has a way to check a file BEFORE it is unBINSCII'd and unSHRunk
whether it will or won't work on my //c?  Transfers to the VAX are very easy
and short at a very high modem speed, but transfers to my //c at 2400bps takes
forever, and is quite disappointing spending 45 minutes getting a file and then
find out it is not even going to run.  ANY clues, help, or hints appreciated!
 
oh, if anyone is having problems transferring files from a SUN to a VAX, or
can't get kermit to work, send e-mail.  have made utilities to avoid problems
with ctrl-j/ctrl-m conversions and such.  (why in the ^%$#* won't my kermit
send a capitol "Y"???  who knows?  who cares?  change it to a "{" and take a
nap!)
 
later,
 Nathan