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From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool - my boys!
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:24:23 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <7107@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, morphet@cguhpa.cgu.mcc.ac.uk (Helen Morphet) writes:
> This Saturday sees the opportunity for my boys to reek their revenge on those so-called champions-in-waiting, the Villa. And I shall be there myself, only the second time I have seen the lads in action. The last was the game at Villa Park, and what a disaster that was - I had the misfortune to be in the Villa seats (my thing's a Villa fan) and I was made to feel so small.
> 
> So, stuff the Villa, lads!
> 
> And, yes, we will be in the Premier League for all time. I can't understand all this hatred aimed towards my boys. Surely jealousy?


jealousy?

of what?

i bet fans of Chelsea really wish that:

they could lose 1-5 at coventry
                2-4 at villa
                and various other fearful gubbings

the only reason everyone is enjoying liverpool being crap just now (and for a
while yet if souness stays manager) is all the dodgy penalties, media coverage
etc they got.

sick joke time:

"that's the only triple souness will ever get...."

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i hope liverpool stay crap for ever more
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From: christos@cco.caltech.edu (Christos S. Christoforou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:29:50 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In article <1993Jan8.191610.5258@cs.wisc.edu> solodov@monterey1.cs.wisc.edu (Mikhail V. Solodov) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.184211.8648@leland.Stanford.EDU> motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta) writes:
>>Hey guys,
>>Does anybody there is interested in spliting this newsgroup in two?
>>Something like "Rec.soccer.England" and "Rec.soccer.rest of the world"?
>>Nothing against English soccer, really! Just tired of hiting the kill
>>file key.

>   I can't agree more.
>   British football is of little interest to the general
>   internatinal public. At this time anyway.

Is editing a kill file too much trouble so that people want
to split our newsgroup?

I think not!

I will also disagree with the statement that British football is
of little interest to the general public. After all, they broadcast
the FA Cup final in many countries around the world. Is the Italian,
German, French, Brazilian, Argentinian (to name but a few), Cup
final broadcasted in as many countries?
Does the New York Times have the soccer results from many more
countries other than England and Scotland?

A splitting of the group will also bring with it the inevitable
cross-posting... I bet if someone made us pay for this service,
we wouldn't be so quick to call for new groups!

I vote for the group to stay as is!

Christos
From: scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Personal to Chuck Brunson
Date: 12 Jan 1993 13:37:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Keywords: BACUL


	Hi, Chuck, are you on line yet?  Give me a holler when you have
a few moments, won't you?

scooter

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From: dks@gallant.apple.com (dk smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: ticket to hawaii tourney
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:35:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1isn9eINN4p5@aludra.usc.edu> noble@usc.edu (Rachel Noble) writes:
>
>
>I have a ticket available to go to Oahu-for the Feb 13-14 tourney on the north shore-the ticket was purchased during the fare wars so is approx. $100 less than the going rate-the ticket leaves LA friday afternoon at 4 p.m. and the return date has not been set-the ticket at this time also includes a jaunt over to Kauai for two days!! dont miss the hawaii tourney -it is the best!!!!
>reply by mail!
>Rachel


That's funny, me too!

I have one ticket available for the Hawaii tourneys.
Here is the itinerary (out of San Francisco):

LV SFO	181	Feb 12	 9:10am	(fri)
AR HNL 		Feb 12	12:46pm

LV HNL	199	Feb 16	5:55pm	(tues)
AR KOA		Feb 16	6:48pm

LV KOA	100	Feb 21	8:30pm	(sun)
AR HNL		Feb 21	9:12pm

LV HNL	218	Feb 21	10:30pm	(sun)
AR SFO		Feb 22	5:16am	(mon)

This will set you up for the Ultimate package deal for both
the Klassik and the Hat Tourney the following weekend.

Price: approx $320, (face value)

Contact me, dk smith.

-dk

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: captain@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Jeff Kirk)
Subject: Re: Cool holes & Distance
Summary: There are longer...
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:21:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.160719.5672@ncsu.edu> Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu> writes:
>>> About two monthes ago I came back from Texas where I played disc golf
>>> in Fort Worth and Dallas. There was one hole in Fort Worth that was
>>> an incredible 525 feet. No way could a person make this hole in three.
>>> 
>>
>>What makes it so difficult?  Is is obstructed in some fashion?
>
>The 525 feet hole is up a hill and around the corner obstructed by
>many trees.
>

Hole #5 at Brandywine Creek State Park in Delaware is 669 feet uphill
almost the whole way.  It is called "the beast" for obvious reasons!

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From: noble@usc.edu (Rachel Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: ticket to hawaii tourney
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:02:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu



I have a ticket available to go to Oahu-for the Feb 13-14 tourney on the north shore-the ticket was purchased during the fare wars so is approx. $100 less than the going rate-the ticket leaves LA friday afternoon at 4 p.m. and the return date has not been set-the ticket at this time also includes a jaunt over to Kauai for two days!! dont miss the hawaii tourney -it is the best!!!!
reply by mail!
Rachel
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: mummy@stortek.com (Geoffrey A. Hungerford x5385)
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Keywords: Disc Golf
Organization: StorageTek
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:19:30 GMT

Hey, are there any Disc Golfers out there?
V. James Palmeri:  Are you out there somewhere?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: mjlawler@athena.mit.edu (Tross)
Subject: Exibition Game and more
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:01:48 GMT

On Sunday January 17, M.I.T. will be hosting an indoor co-ed exibition 
ultimate game bewteen the Boston Commies / Godiva and a team made up of 
Boston area club players.   We are hosting this game to give younger 
players, esp. college players, a chance to see some really great ultimate.  
Everyone is welcome to come and watch.  Any questions, please call or
e-mail me.

Also -

I am still looking for college sectional coordinators for three of the
four Northeast regions.  If you want to be a sectional coordinator,
PLEASE call or e-mail me.


And Finally -

If you have an e-mail address or phone number of the Stanford Men's
captain, I would appreciate it if you could send it to me.


Thanks


Mike Lawler

Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: dep1700@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Diane Pagel)
Subject: Mardi Gras
Organization: Boeing
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:58:03 GMT

******** MARDI GRAS ***********

The following teams have been selected to participate
in the 6th Annual Krewe of Disc Mardi Gras Ultimate
Championship Tournament which will be held at Highland
Road Park in Baton Rouge, LA.

Date: Feb 20, 21

Captains meeting is at 9:30 am at Frisbe Central Field #7.

The teams are:

Baton Rouge Turbodogs
LSU
New Orleans
Birmingham
Texas Twisters
Alvin Houndz
The Krewe of MC2
U of Texas
Double Secret
SPAM
Air Calvin
Indianapolis
Freaks uv Nature
Tampa
Memphis Prairie Squids
Gran Fury

Women Division:

Baton Rouge
New Orleans
Hucksters
Lone Star Disc
Rhythmn Method

There is room for EIGHT WOMENS TEAMS, so if you are interested
and field a team call "Getty"

Person to contact/badger etc.....

Tournament Director
Jeff "Getty" Freeman
(504) 766-4266


Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Cool holes
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X-Xxdate: Thu, 7 Jan 93 13:34:14 GMT
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:26:58 GMT

About two monthes ago I came back from Texas where I played disc golf
in Fort Worth and Dallas. There was one hole in Fort Worth that was
an incredible 525 feet. No way could a person make this hole in three.

What are some of the cool and not-so-cool holes (or courses) have
you played in?

Eric Morgan
From: steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Favorite Golf Discs?
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:40:41 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

What are you favorite golf discs?

My fav is the first run original Hammer with the mallet and the ugly golf
basket on it.  These are the best for 250 feet or less straight shots or a very
slight turn over or hyzer (right or left) shot.  Use them for putting too.

I once played pro in a tourny with just 12 Hammers in my bag and nothing else. 
Took second out of about 15 pros.  But it come down to the last hole.

The Scorpion is my distance disc.  A average open field pull with no wind will
go about 360-375 feet.  

I also have four (used to be five) 150-155g Whippets.  Not quite familiar with
them but are still very stable dispite the weight.  Got one to go 430 feet but
I expect another 30-50 feet one I break it in.

The most under rated disc is the prototype Condor.  This disc can weight upto
200g and is very stable.  Good hyzer (hooks left) disc for 180 feet to 280 feet
holes.  Very predictable.  Try it and please let me know how you like it.  The
new Condor is a bit different, more stable.  I prefer the prototypes.

What do you like?

Jason Steffen
PDGA #4113


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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:33:13 GMT
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Subject: college tourney

Attention College Teams (especially those in the NC-Md-DC-Va area:

Feb 20-21; tournament at Woodbury Forest (near U. Va.), 16 mens and
some women's teams, call Chris Smeds, 804-979-8915.




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From: rigler@dao.nrc.ca (Michael Rigler)
Subject: Ultimate in Victoria/Vancouver?
Reply-To: rigler@dao.nrc.ca
Organization: DAO/CADC .
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:43:02 GMT

I've just moved to Victoria from Honolulu, and I'm trying to connect with
the local ultimate scene.  Are there any scrimmages or games planned for
January anywhere on Vancouver island?  I hope you Canadians haven't chosen
this month to huddle inside for warmth! 

I need to get in shape for the KAIMANA KLASSIK in February...

---
Michael Rigler                                 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: CRAAARB@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: We want to Play!!!!!
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:45:16 EST

The Yale FOG are getting restless. We want to play Ultimate (although I as team
communications director must admit that all this disc golf talk is making me no
stalgic for the two Toronto Area courses which I would often enjoy while skippi
ng school/work). Specifically, we are considering planning a western or souther
n road trip from the period of March 6-20, our break. If some kind soul would i
nform me at CRAAARB@YALEVM of any potential tournamnets ANYWHERE during these t
wo weeks, so we can get planning.
 
 Also, are there any snow tournaments planned in New England, Eastern NY state,
 Eastern Penn, or New Jersey? If we don't play before March outdoors (5's in th
e cage doesn't cut it), we're all going to kill each other a la Jacob's Ladder.
 
Thanks Y'all.
              Aaron "Why didn't I go to Stanford" Craig
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From: jp@moscom.com (Jim Palmeri)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:32:05 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

Thanks to Geoff Hungerford's post asking if disc golfers were out
here, we seem to have uncovered a pocket of disc golf interest.
Hopefully we will keep this going.

To that end, a disc golf trivia question:  What is considered the
very first disc made specifically for the game of disc golf?  
Clue: it was not the DGA Night Flyer.  Second clue: it was obscure
and little used because the Night Flyer came out shortly thereafter.

By the way Geoff, your email address doesn't work, how do we reach
you?  Does anyone have a working email address for Geoff Hungerford?
-- 
Jim P.   (jp@moscom.com)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
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>Hey, are there any Disc Golfers out there?

Yes! I'm a disc golfer. I live in Raleigh, NC where we have 6 courses
in the area. I have been playing for about 10 years and have yet to
get a hole-in-one.  :-(

Eric Morgan
From: steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Cool holes
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:25:31 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1993Jan7.182658.22125@ncsu.edu>, Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu> writes:
> About two monthes ago I came back from Texas where I played disc golf
> in Fort Worth and Dallas. There was one hole in Fort Worth that was
> an incredible 525 feet. No way could a person make this hole in three.
> 
> What are some of the cool and not-so-cool holes (or courses) have
> you played in?
> 
> Eric Morgan


Well in Detroit at the Worlds this year Addison Oaks (known as Addison Strokes
or Add Some Strokes) probably half the holes were Cool, hard, but cool.  A
stretch of about five holes up and down hills, in tunnels no wider than 20 feet
(no kidding), and around corners at the same time.  Went from a GOOD round of
one over (yes no typo) to seven over during this stretch.  Get off the
fairway and you almost always get a five or more.  

My favorite hole in one came on a tunnel shot about 40 feet wide with the pin
on the left side at the end of the tunnel 322 feet away.  If I would have
missed I would have been DEEP in the rose bushes 20 behind the basket.  It was
in this years state tourny and netted my $97 of the $310 I took home that day. 
I won't forget that day!

(My spelling is very bad.  So don't point it out.  Thanks)

Jason Steffen
PDGA #4113
  
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From: mummy@stortek.com (Geoffrey A. Hungerford x5385)
Subject: Re: Disc Golf
Organization: StorageTek
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:31:56 GMT

Disc Golfers:

My return address is now valid.  Jim Palmeri had pointed out that
he couldn't respond to mummy@stortek.com.  However, I am told by
my administrator that a path now exists to my server.  Thanks Jim.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: vinoski@apollo.hp.com (Stephen Vinoski)
Subject: Re: Cool holes & Distance
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:25:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

[Descriptions of cool holes deleted]

You guys are killing me!  The only time I get to golf is when I visit
Memphis as there are no public courses around here (unless things have
changed real recently).  Your descriptions are reminding me of how
much I miss the game.  Please, please continue!

My hole-in-one stories:

1) Playing for $10 in Memphis back in the early eighties in an
impromptu two-team two-man scramble.  Third hole used to be pretty
short, about 60 yards, but about one-third of the way down the fairway
it veered to the right, with a tree at that point right in the middle
of the fairway.  The course in Memphis (Shelby Forest) is right in the
woods; back then each fairway was extremely tight (perhaps 10-15 feet
across) but nowadays many of the trees are gone.  Because of the
tightness of the fairway, many shots that looked promising at release
almost always nailed the tree in the middle or the trees on either
side of the fairway.  Anyway, we had played 18 holes and were tied.
No winner emerged after the first two sudden death holes.  On the
third hole I was second to throw, and I nailed the hole-in-one!

2) Playing at a tournament in a state park down near where I-495 and
the Massachusetts turnpike cross (can't remember the name of the park)
back in 1989, I think.  They had set up a temporary pole-hole course
just for that day.  The tee was off the edge of a spillway for a dam
(OB) and the pole was directly behind a fairly large deciduous tree
about 50-60 yards away.  You had to throw off of the edge of the
spillway with a sort of MTA throw so the disc would go past the tree
and hopefully drop down into the basket behind it.  Due to a stiff
breeze, many throws were dropping back into the spillway for penalty
strokes.  I threw during a break in the breeze and got the ace.  The
illustrious Harvey Brandt won that day, and I didn't mind taking 4th
behind him (especially since I hadn't touched a disc in the two years
before that day)!

Both relatively short holes, but I'll keep the aces nonetheless. :-)

Let's keep up this golf talk.

-steve

Steve Vinoski  (508)436-5904   vinoski@apollo.hp.com
Distributed Object Computing Program
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From: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Disc Golf Trivia Question
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:52:58 GMT
Reply-To: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Frisbee Discophilia
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In article 4856@moscom.com, jp@moscom.com (Jim Palmeri) writes:

> The very first disc put together specifically for the game of disc golf
> came in the spring of 1977.  They were the white 119g World Class
> "Around Nine" discs that Ed Headrick had made up for his fledgling Disc
> Golf Association.  They were given to each person who joined the DGA. 

Jim,

Teresa and I joined the PDGA at the Rose Bowl in 77.  We were each given
a blue (sort of) 40 and 50 mold with a PDGA hot stamp and our PDGA numbers
(#406 and #407).  I suppose these came after the "Around Nine", which I
don't remember ever seeing, but I think they came before the Night Flyers.
Do you know where they fit in?  I still have all 4 in mint condition.

I enjoyed Geoff's mention of the Super Pro.  I still consider the orange
50 molds to be the best frisbee ever.  I still have a couple which I use
to play with my kids.  I also have an orange 74 Rose Bowl 50 mold which I
will have to flight test some day.

Trivia question:  Everyone knows that they made the 50 mold Super Pros in
                  orange and blue.  Can anyone remember the other colors
                  that were used?

Dudley
WCFM
.
From: ho@cs.arizona.edu (Hilarie Orman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: it's elemental
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:33:06 GMT

In article <726879612.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP>, Eric.Simon@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Simon) writes:
|> BF>Plays will be called by the common name of the appropriate compound.
|> BF>For instance, "Salt!" means player designated "sodium" throws to player
|> BF>designated "chlorine".
|> 
|> What if you wanted chlorine to throw to sodium???  <g>
|> 

I'd yell "pepper".  If playing against such a team, shout "ammonia",
"sucrose" or "benzene" and watch the ensuing confusion.
From: ho@cs.arizona.edu (Hilarie Orman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Tournaments
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:20:47 GMT

In article <43034@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, dcarta@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (David Carta) writes:
|> 
|> Tucson is also supposed to be having a co-ed tournament, but I can't
|> tell you what date, besides that it's in March.

The 6th Annual Uomo/Donna Coed Tournament will most likely be in April,
actually.  The date will be posted when set, also any necessary corrections
to the spelling or numbering.
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