From: chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: What do you think of Chris Patten
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:36:54 GMT
Reply-To: chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu)
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <1992Nov20.121129.3444@kub.nl> LEE@KUB.NL (W. Lee) writes:
>I think he's a good guy, cause he's (I think) the first governor who dares to
>stand up to Peking. It's about time that China is being taught a lesson.
>Personally I'm strongly against China taking HK over in 1997. I still don't 
>understand why GB is giving up HK island, wasn't it British property ?

Yes and No. Introducing democracy to Hong Kong of course is good. But
the problem is if it is not in phase with the Sino British Joint
Declaration, or just ignoring Chinese opinions, the ultimate people
who are going to be hurt are just us: people of Hong Kong.

Also, I don't think Patten CAN teach China a lesson. He is too weak.
Hong Kong is too weak.

I have no problem about Hong Kong is always a part of China and
eventually she should return under China's rule. But the fact is China
is not mature enough to take over Hong Kong (and Macao). There are so
many differences, economically and politically, among China, Hong
Kong, and Macao.

Regarding giving up New Kowloon + New Territories instead of the whole
Hong Kong: Hong Kong is now an integrated city. All towns and places
are linked together. Hong Kong Island cannot survive without Kowloon.
Kowloon cannot survive w/o New Territories. IF only New Kowloon + New
Territories are to be returned, I think many problems will arise, for
instance: huge flow of people sell their properties in New Kowloon +
NT and move to Kowloon and HK Island --> speed drop of price of land
in New Kln + NT --> speed up the price hike of land in Kln + HKIsland
--> overcrowded in urban areas --> more crimes, more resentments ...

>I really fear for the future of HK after 1997, cause I don't think the Chinese
>gouvernment should be trust about the 50 years non changes policy. The chinese
>gouvernment is just a bush of old men who just think of their own privileges 
>and career, and don't care about the well being of their "subjects".

Well, uncomfortable feelings are always around the people of Hong Kong
regarding the 1997 takeover. Let's face the fact. Do our best part,
but don't imagine to "CHALLENGE TOO MUCH" to the Chinese government.
They may do something crazy which we don't know.

>I know my opinion isn't worth anything, since I'm not staying in HK and won't
>have to stay in HK after 1997, so most of the troubles in the future won't 
>hurt me. But it's just my opinion that Patten is a good guy, who's the hope
>for more democracy in HK, and maybe a better future in HK.

For myself, no matter I am going to stay in Hong Kong or not, Hong
Kong is my "PLACE" (too bad I don't have my own 'country'). If Hong
Kong gets into trouble, I will definitely be hurt, at least
psychologically and emotionally. 

We still have to see if Patten is REALLY a good guy or not. He is a
politician.

Just my few cents.
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