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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:52:30 EST
From:         "Thomas J. Lee" <tjl9@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
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Tushar writes:

T>Just an aside, but how accurate is it to say this? What can one mean
T>by the statement that the Persian Gulf flows into the Arabian Sea?
T>Anyway, what is the word on the dynamics of ocean water?

        Well, since the amount of water in the Persian Gulf is, to my
knowledge, more or less constant (it isn't drying up, and it isn't
overflowing and inundating the surrounding land), the water coming into
it has got to go somewhere.  It can evaporate, or it can soak through
the ocean floor into the rock below (which is doubtless saturated
already), but I'm sure a great deal of it goes on into the Arabian Sea.

        Is there a precise dividing line between the Persian Gulf and
the Arabian Sea?  If I'm on a boat in the Arabian Sea, can I not also be
said to be in the Indian Ocean?  What's an international country?

Tom Lee
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:05:12 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Boston Party Tomorrow? On or Off?
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Yes, as far as I'm concerned it is on, but I've been waiting for a
reply from Rita -- just so we're both agreed.  Festivities will begin
about 5:30 I guess.  I mentioned to Rita that I could have veggies & dip,
crackers & cheese and soft drinks available.  I'd supply some beer, but
what kind? If anyone else can bring other food/drink that would be great.
Again, I was waiting to hear from Rita as to her suggestions.

The only person (as far as I know) who expressed a location preference
was Rita Leonard who works at Boston College (very near my house)
and for this reason I proposed that we gather here.

Assuming this is what will happen here are some directions:

Address: Joan Boorstein
         686 Centre Street
         Newton, MA
         (617) 332-7294

Directions:  Get yourself on the Mass Pike extension coming into Boston.
Get off at Exit 17 (Newton/Watertown) -- first exit after Route 128/95.

If you come up Route 95 from Providence stay on 95 until you get to the
Mass Pike -- shortly after Route 9.  Take the Pike towards Boston -- go
one exit.

After exiting the Pike, make the first possible right-hand turn and that
is Centre Street.  Go about 0.6 mile on Centre Street -- my house is a
large blue 3-story Victorian on the SE corner of Centre & George street
-- you can park in the circular drive in front or on George Street -- be
aware that George Street is called  Lombard on the west side of Centre
Street (I don't know why) -- I recommend that you NOT park on Centre
Street as it is a major cross Newton street and is rather busy (especially
at commute times).

If you get to a signal at the 'top' of a hill (Cabot/Sergeant Street)
and/or go past the Boston College Law School, you've gone too far.
You'll need to turn yourself around -- coming from this direction, my
house is one long block from the signal at Cabot/Sergeant Street.

Will you & Mama P be coming together? Can Jenna come?  Any other Brownies?
Let me know (by phone or email) who's coming when you know.

Hope to see you tomorrow,
Joan
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From:         "Thomas J. Lee" <tjl9@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
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Graham Toal writes:

                                 ... Apparently in the US it is known
as 'tigger' (as in the Lone Ranger's horse); over here it was called 'nigger'.

        Hi-ho Tigger, away!  Bounce bounce bounce bounce

Tom Lee
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:59:13 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cleaning up the environment....
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>
> In Chicago, a major step has been taken to remove pollutants from the
> environment. Bears coach Mike Ditka was fired.

Heads have been rolling in Houston, too, with two assistant coaches
already out, and rumors of other drastic changes flying.
ndh
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:47:12 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Coming to America
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The only thing I would add is an entry which I wrote longhand in the DFW
airport on my way out and never transcribed to the list. Of course the
whole thing needs mondo editing, but I have a feeling that life is getting
ready to rise back up and overwhelm me in about 24 hours. So if you want
to put the all the posts together as one file, with my still-unentered
file at the start, I'd be mighty flattered, ma'am.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:22:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: uh-huh

> Good luck, Emily...hope it works out!

Thanks Nancy! Me too. They got a lot of applicants for the position (like 70
or something) and they're interviewing 12. I think they want somebody with an
art history background; the closest I could get was an MA in medieval history.
We'll see what happens.

> ndh

Emily
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:54:55 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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It could be that he wants to escape without a lot of fuss, but if he's
caught, he's going to make a scene to overwhelm the other fellow.

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:44:58 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Silence...
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>   We're having a "False Spring" here, too.  It feels like March outside:
> cool, windy, and moist.  Temperatures are to be in the 50's today.

Press Return for menu, or enter 3 letter forecast city code:jan

JACKSON AND VICINITY FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
440 AM CST MON JAN 4 1993

 TODAY...BREEZY...WITH SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY...MAINLY
DURING THE AFTERNOON. HIGH 70 TO 75. WIND SOUTH 15 MPH AND GUSTY.
CHANCE OF RAIN 60 PERCENT.

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:18:57 GMT
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In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (gilbertsmith) says:

>Well, after that lengthy dissertation by our very own most
>beloved tushi, all I can say is if there were a prize for the
>most <anal>, he would win it <hands down>.....

Well, not exactly <down>, giggles; I think what you're describing entails
more of a fig leaf position.  Unless, or course, one has <help>.....


-- 
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:27:57 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Baby
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> Anyone else willing to confess that they ordered the Elvis souvenir
> package from the Postal Service?

No, but I was once President of an Elvis Fan Club and have an aged,
yellow newspaper clipping to prove it.
  -- Natalie (about to move back to maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:55:00 EST
From:         Bob Howren <HOWREN%UNC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Guff and The Seventh Sign

Are you sure that "the Guff" wasn't actually "the Gulf"?
--bob h
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:36:42 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: News from Kenya
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              Jan 11, 93 12:03 pm

> Have you been following the presidential election in Kenya?
> Although the results have been disputed, the guy in the lead
> appears to be a man named Moi. I hope he is declared the
> winner if for no other reason than he'll be able to say
> "L'etat c'est Moi!"

Kenya's president (prior to the elections) is Daniel Arap Moi, (rhymes
with boy).  He's been president for two terms, at least, and had the
opportunity to say "L'etat c'est Moi!" for the past 10 years or so.
Haven't been following the current elections, though.

-rashmi
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:02:23 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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On Mon, 11 Jan 1993, gilbertsmith wrote:

> p.s.: As if I were not a contributing <member> of this group.

I thought the problem was you were always being accused of acting like a
<member> in this group.

-abh
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:13:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dual Croning on 19 March
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>         I trust that you have, or are planning to, reveal to your *seester*
>         that, though unattainable, she is <worshipped from afar> by a person
>         of good taste.
>
> ... and no mean persuasion.
>
> G

While trying to figure out just exactly *what* this equivocal retort
really means, I suddenly recall a wonderful incident from, uh, I think
it was 1964, when I was living in Winston-Salem, NC, a city that was
in the throes of the civil rights revolution and trying to do it
right.  One Sunday morning at the First Baptist Church, a black
couple showed up and sat in the third pew from the front.  The
minister, who was a good guy, was trying to find words to welcome
them and reassure everyone that he thought they had a right to be
there.  So, he said something like "I am happy to welcome to our
congregation our friends of the...... uh....."  After hesitating
a moment, and realizing that he had entangled himself in an
impossible sentence, he continued.... "our friends of the
colored persuasion."  If it hadn't been "church" and if it hadn't
been such a frightening, serious situation, it would have
brought the house down.  Everyone, myself included, just bit their
lip and wished that the good guy preacher had let it pass.
--ggs   (who is, and has always been, <almost persuaded>....)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:57:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Request for Info

>Problem is getting the escape character into the Crosstalk Key
>assignment. I can't figure out what to code for a particular function.
> Obviously I could not code, for example, the Crosstalk function key
>10 has the value ESC ESC 0 -  that's exactly what it would
>transmit-esc esc 0.  I want it to transmit whatever ESC key generates
>(2 times) followed by a zero. Maybe I'm too close to the problem to

Let's see if I follow.  The escape key would ordinarily be expected to
transmit the escape character (ASCII 27, or 1B if you prefer), so
you would want it to send 27 27 48, no?  So are you saying then that
what you get is literally "esc" "esc" "0"?

Or is it the case that you want to talk a host program that thinks the
ESC key send something other than 27 (your "whatever ESC key
generates")?

Isn't it interesting how hard it can be to state a problem precisely?

>see the answer, so any ideas are welcome ....well most ....don't tell
>me to read the manual(s).  I already have and am confused enough.:-(

Gosh, I just assumed you didn't have access to a manual.

mem
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:32:52 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Moe Howard account revisited
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  Of my three latest questions, apparently the Moe Howard one was a bit
tricky. Here is the context:


    In fact, as I reviewed the friendships I had had over the years, I had
    to conclude that the most interesting ones involved the seriously
    impaired - the Moe Howard account, the drunken, the mind-smoked, those
    who began each day with a nervous breakdown, people who hung on to
    the sides of the planet with suction cups.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:43:05 -0500
From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DRUNIVAC.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Boston?
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Hey!  I was just poring through old news and I saw Natalie's msg
about some Boston gathering.  When & where is/was it?  Did I miss it?
Boston's only 1.5 hours away, by gum, and I'll be <peeved> if there
was a List Event and I didn't know about it!

--Adam/LHie
think.com!urartu!lpoint!ah
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:32:09 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Famous horses

>I went through Grace Livingston Hill, Kathleen Norris, Elizabeth Seifert,
>and Frances Parkinson Keyes...

Alas, I don't know the any of these names. I suppose it is too late to
start on them now. Maybe I will just look for other books with happy
endings.

tushar
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Thanks, Brad!

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:39:30 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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> I've used many, many, many different keyboards on IBM PCs and their clones
> during the past five years and have never seen a key that said PF.

But I thought there were function keys somewhere on the keyboard either
near the keypad or above the number keys (have used such a beast only a
few times so am speaking from distant memory).  If so, how are they labeled?

Joan
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:32:12 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: surfacing
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>    And Natalie--I would NEVER come between you and Bernard!

<sigh>  You built up my hopes and are now smashing them...  Not that I
would ever let anybody or anything come between me and Bernard, of course.
But I was envisioning a beautiful menage-a-trois.
  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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Subject:      Re: Cleaning up the environment....

> In Chicago, a major step has been taken to remove pollutants from the
> environment. Bears coach Mike Ditka was fired.

He may be a head case, but I wish the Giants would hire him.

Ken
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:28:04 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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> No, probably a furnace.  Usually they would fit in a small coat-closet
> kind of space.  Probably forced air, gas fired.   The other possibility
> since the 'furnace vents' is ambiguous would be a wall mounted furnace/
> heater....though i'd use the word heater....those are usually gas fired
> in the west, though can be electric....
>
> cyclops

Way down here in Texas we don't have cellars, so if the furnace is not in
a small closet kind of space it is in the attic, as ours is.  The vents
are on the wall near the ceiling or in the ceiling itself.
doris
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From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Emily's Art/Literature Question

> "Where was El Greco born?"
>
> If correct, you get your next choice of entertainment.

I'll say Toledo, Spain.

> Carolyn

Emily
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:20:39 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: London Bridge
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> My daughter always cried when I sang

So did mine.  Once she got older she

> she always laughed when

I tried.

doris
(who is grateful to giggles for those words)
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:51:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Gathering at Emily's/Steve K Lives!
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Hi wordslers!!  Here we are at Emily's luxurious dwelling (it's architecture!)
stuffed to the gills w/ great food and good list friends!!!  Steve talks like
he posts!

Karen

And I'll probably be back when Magic Mountain opens.  In the meantime, there's
ice on Lake Geneva for me to practice sailing on the lifted tack.  Back to chat
with the rest of you soon!

Steve

I succeeded in avoided the dreaded avocado in the dinner salad.  So far
Steve has avoided bodily harm at the hands of the others present.  There
are no guarantees before we drop him off at the airport, though.  Emily
will be stuck with all of the leftover desserts, so who knows what she
will look like in the NEXT set of pictures.  Perhaps I'll just go back
downstairs and save her from this fate.

Karsten

Hey look - a capital K! This, by the way, is the LAST time I invite Mr. karsten
over here, for anything. Huh. Steve is just like I imagined him. I just don't
want to see any of those pictures he took, though! No, anne, there won't be
any gifs from these...

Well, you guys missed out. The rain even let up a little; we'll see if it stops
long enough for Karsten to drive Steve to LAX.

I'm going to send karsten a crate <full> of avocados for his birthday.

Love to all wordslers,

Emily
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:03:31 EST
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Subject:      Re: More Possible Croning Sites
              10 Jan 1993 13:51:16 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>Summary.  Suggested sites so far for March 19 croning:
>
>Starkville, Mississippi            M Y   V O T E   A T   T H I S   P O I N T
>New Orleans              People can do N.O. coming or going
>Somewhere on the Mississippi River    As you point out, difficult logistically
>Perdido Beach, Florida              OK with me
>Near Huntsville, Alabama             d i t t o
>Stockholm?               Kay has done Stockholm already.
>Others?                  You mentioned Memphis.  I might be able to negotiate
                            some mass housing (10-12 people; no charge); site
                            -- park-like -- on a bluff overlooking the river
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In a previous article, MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA (Peter Montgomery) says:

>> >I second the emotion.
>> >Pm
>> If you've got the notion, we could play old Smokey tracks on a boom box
>> and dance on the grave....  And maybe some Porter, for Giggles?  We could
>> stomp the dirt down some.
>
>Why not? I'm feeling foot free and fancy loose.
>In fact we could even call in the Undertaker from the WWF.
>
Nahhh - he'd be too busy looking for lost feet, or sewing them back on,
to do a proper job on the corpse.  We could just flame the poor sucker into
a pile of glowing [green] ashes....  It would save shoveling....  We could
just scatter the ashes into the computer center ventilating ducts.

-- 
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Date: 10 Jan 93 15:05:06 GMT
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>
>Since we did not watch Brad's movie, we have a reason for another gathering.
>Maybe sometime after Rita gets back from her honeymoon?
>
>Joan

I just replied to this proposing a weekend afternoon in Gloucester,
but I think I sent it to Joan instead of the list.  If so, Joan, feel
free to forward it where it belongs...

- RobyMeister
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:51:29 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (74)

Akio, you are returning to a Gleanings-starved bunch.  Here are my
answers:

 6) Claudia Schiffer

    German or Austrian-born model/cover girl whose pictures grace a
    calendar I received for Christmas.  The poses show her on the
    beaches of St. Barthelemy, a French island in the Lesser Antilles.
    Both Nureyev and Baryshkinov have estates there, I discovered.

24) Szczesliwego Nowego Roku

    Polish for "Happy New Year".  Applies retroactively to you, sir!

40) Charles Grayson Summersell

     Professor of History at the University of Alabama; may be retired
     or dead.  Nancy Harwood may be related to him.

--brad
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