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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:53:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct14.231805.5778@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fran@cs.washington.edu (Francis Pang) writes:
>           How about this:
>              Don James was one of the fine QB from Miami.
>              Therefore, Miami should take the credit for what UW Huskies
>              has done (good and bad). 
>

What's your point???  No one is trying to take the credit for what UW has 
done.  Don James runs a great program out there.  The post was in response
to a poster going on about how great the Pac-10 was (which I wasn't denying
them being a good conference), and stating that this was because of the
incredible amount of people that are in the NFL now.  He named a few
QBs from the division.  I just rebutted if that was the sole measure, look
at the Miami Hurricanes.  I believe they lead the nation in NFL players
from their University, at least as of last year.  I can name a small 
handful of QBs alone that have made quite a name for themselves...


-- 
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VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SEC Preview (Oct. 17)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:54:55 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

jim@pustule.b29.ingr.com (Jim Weeks) wrote:
}     
}     WHAT ??? you mean its not another "Razorback Saturday on JP "
}   
}  ...heavy sigh.... I guess I'll be forced to watch the Vols and Tide..
}  sure had my hopes up on seeing more hogs mounted to little ol' ladies 
}  heads..NOT !!!

Fear not!  The Hogs will be on again October 31 at Auburn and November 7
at home against Mississippi State.

BTW, a reliable source informs me that JP dropped the Mississippi State
at South Carolina game completely, so everyone should be getting 
Georgia-Vanderbilt.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
   "Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades."
                                 "And computer rating systems."
From: rcaswell@eng.auburn.edu (Robin V. Caswell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WEEKLY S.E.C. RANKINGS
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: rcaswell@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article 142403@mccall.com, scott@mccall.com (Nobody) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct13.152957.1@cajun>, aakhos@cajun writes:
> >But nobody can deny that SEC is the toughest conference from top to bottom.
> >
> I can.  But let's not get into the "toughest conference" debate, 
> even though it comes up every year.
> --
> Nobody         <nobody@mccall.com>      The McCall Pattern Company
> (uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!nobody)	615 McCall Road
> (800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA


Oh Boy! K-state`s finally got a winning record halfway through the year, and some             fan who`s used to his team getting run over annually by Nebraska, Oklahoma, Colorado,          and, usually KU,is attempting to diagnose which conference is better- or, in other      words, which one is more competetive. Until VERY recently there hasn`t been very much   competition in the BIG 8 to speak of....at least in the way of football. I was stationed at Ft. Riley for approx. 4.5 yrs., and am a VERY avid foo




tball fan, but       there really wasn't alot of mystery as to who the premier football teams were.              No Flames, please... this is my opinion, and everyone has one. By the way, I married     a very disheartened  WILDCAT fan AND ALUMNAE ; I know very well the subject of which    I speak of.....
                         R.C.
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From: jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher)
Subject: Cooper, Bruce, Ohio St
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:49:11 GMT


Chicago Trib says Cooper may be gone at the end of the year to become head
coach at Arkansas, that Glenn Mason can have the Ohio St job if he wants
it.

Cooper is 18-14-2 in Big 10 games, 10-7 in Big 10 games at home. (very
impressive) Earl Bruce was 33-7 in home Big 10 games, had the best
record among Big 10 coaches during his 9 years. He wasn't good enough so
they fired him and replaced him with Cooper. They deserve what they're
getting as far as I'm concerned.

I think I said earlier that squeaking by weak Louisville and Bowling
Green (1AA in reality) was a sign that this was a very poor team. Any
psychological, intimidation edge they had over other Big 10 teams is now
gone. I see 4 or 5 (very possible) losses in the Big 10, maybe a
minor bowl (just because of the fan draw).

Boy have they fallen since Woody!
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From: sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt)
Subject: Re: Worst Rule in College Football
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:52:36 GMT


I think the worst rule is the holding penalty.  It should be a 5 yard penalty 
and should be called EVERYTIME it is done.  The holding calls and no-calls 
these days are at the whim of the referee.  Sometimes it's frustrating!
-- 
           Susan E. Schudt                    0 0
     Dept. of Chemical Engineering
      Goooooooooooooooooo  IRISH!           \_____/
             Win Twins!
From: bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I-AA Attendence - UNI-dome crowds.
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:18:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: iscsvax.1992Oct9.111810.7445
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct9.085203@mccall.com>, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
> Well, The UNI-Dome was oversold by 2,000 for the last game(according
> to my relatives in CF).  So look for tickets to be tougher to get
> (which is nice to see).  [for Jim Bohy: The Hill has been called
> a riot place the last two weeks, but from what I heard it was just
> a bunch of people blocking the streets after the game.]
> --
> Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
> (uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
> (800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA

I was at the last game (homecoming).  They announced attendance to be 15,089
(or something close to that, it was in the low 15,000's).  The Northern Iowan
(campus rag) says it was the fourth largest crowd on record in the dome.  I did
not read if that was *football* crowd (which I have a hard time believing) or
*overall* crowd (with two b-ball games against Iowa selling of 22,000 seats, I
could buy that, but there have been a few concerts there too).  There were a
lot of empty seats in the corners.

They used to have a poster here with a lot of "You know you're at UNI when"
things.  Some examples:

     - when you can get tickets for all the home sporting events at the door.
     - when you talk about student apathy and nobody cares.
     - when someone says to you, "do you go to Iowa, Iowa State, or that other
       university?"

Yeah, a riot at UNI consists of fifteen people in the crosswalk at once.  The
closest thing I *ever* saw to a riot here was when over 700 people got into a
huge snowball fight.  It all ended when someone in one of the fraternities (SAE
if I remember correctly) stuck a shotgun out the window and fired into the air
'cause the house was getting pelted with snowballs...

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Graduate Student - Computer Science Education   |  chasing the beast is easier
University of Northern Iowa                     |  than living with people..."
Cedar Falls, IA  50614                          | 
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Lousy ACC officiating
Originator: jagreath@c00090-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:01:38 GMT


In article <70521@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
|>Hey look.  Anyone complaining about lousy ACC officiating should ask just one
|>question.  Did the officiating crew include: Lenny Wirtz or Dick Paparo.  If
|>the answer is yes, then yep the officiating ranged from "it sucked" to "if they
|>had one more eye, they'd be a cyclops!"  Of course, ACC fans will understand 
|>this post better than others, maybe.
|>-- 
|>BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
|>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
|>uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt6390a
|>Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu

*chuckle* I'm starting to wonder the names of a few of the ACC *football* 
referees now...some of them are just as bad as Wirtz or Paparo. 
Just my 2 cents worth. 

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From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:18:40 GMT

In article <BvrnDM.6n5@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
*
*Personally, I like the discussions but think they should go elsewhere.
*Maybe the r.s.f.c band folks and the alt.drumcorp folks could put out
*a call-for-votes for rec.music.people.who.march.while.playing.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, perhaps there already IS a CFD on a new group to include all marching 
groups, regardless of corp, college or high school level.  In fact, the Thread
on this group had been cited as a need for such an expansion of alt.drumcorps .

*Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu



-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
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From: kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin)
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:40:03 CDT

In article <1992Oct10.231835.23782@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.192903.33776@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>>Alright fans, let's hear your arguments!!!  Who in the world can deny that
>>the Miami Hurricanes are the #1 team in the nation, without a doubt???
>>Not only are they undefeated...
>>Not only have they beat a number of ranked/tough opponents...
>>But...
>>
>>In successive weeks, they have taken down #3 Flordia State, and now, they
>>have travelled to #7 Penn State, and beat them on their own turf...
>
>Don't forget, they CRUSHED Arizona. A team that managed to TIE mighty
>Oregon State, and BARELY lost to powerhouse Cal State Fullerton...
>
>Yup, definite #1 ...
>
>========================================================
>| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
>| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
>========================================================


Gimme a Break!!  Miami was obviously caught looking ahead by Arizona.
On any other day, Miami would have won 50-0.  I'm not even a Miami
fan per se, but give them their due...they deserve to be #1 much more
than Washington or any other team.  I detect a note of jealousy in your
comments!

WAR EAGLE

--Ken

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From: ables@hal.com (King Ables)
Subject: Re: OU vs. tx
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:13:42 GMT

From article <1992Oct12.133646.28113@Arco.COM>, by mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan):
> 
> This is the first time in seven years you did win it on the field...go

True.

> ahead and talk, or vomit your garbage. You have reason to. If the Sooners

Thank you.

> would have won, nothing said, we are looking ahead at Colorado. 

Are you trying to say (poorly) that nobody from OU would have said anything
about a win?  Yeah, right, pull the other one.

> PS - Have you looked at the poles this morning? Nuff said.

Yeah, but all I see is a bunch of telephone wires.

P.S. Have you looked up the word 'poll' in the dictionary lately?  Nuff said.
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From: owen@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: JP SEC GotW?
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:58:15 GMT

In article <92286.113843JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>, JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> What exactly are the terms of the JP contract with the SEC?  TBS
> had to televise each team at least twice; why are we getting all
> these South Carolina games scheduled?  Why not pick up Bama-Ole Miss?
> 
According to the B'ham News, Bama-Ole Miss will be televised, they just
don't know who's going to do it yet (but the announcement should be made
today).  JP is last in line behind ABC and ESPN; if neither of the other
2 do it, JP will pick it up.

Larry Owen

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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: I stand corrected (was Re: Strange facts)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:24:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.101047@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writ
es:
>
>In article <1992Oct12.034511.1629@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.acs
.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>>At the halfway point of the I-AA season, after approximately 250 games
>>involving I-AA teams, there has not been a tie in a game involving a I-AA tea
m.
>
>Well, I got SamHoustonSt and NichollsSt tying 19-19 this week.
>--
>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company

Yep--your right.  That score did not make it into my local Sunday paper.  USA
Today has it though.

PDunn
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: I'm so proud of my Cheeseheads...
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:42:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

My Cheeseheads have learned well.  Instead of boasting about a sure win
over Purdue this weekend, they are keeping very quiet.  Some people might
say it's because they are embarassed over last week, but I don't think so.
I think they are not saying anything because they don't want to draw the
ire of the woofing gods, and perhaps because they don't want to upset their
mentor, the head of the Cheesehead Academy, who happens to be a Purdue
alum.

I'm so proud of you guys....
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: mwl4879@venus.tamu.edu (Mark W. Leddy, Texas A&M)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rice-Texas    (was: Virginia Football)
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:24:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: venus.14OCT199209245229
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct1.170450.22402@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes...
>In article <1992Oct1.160921.21851@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>>p.p.s. Rice is atually a very talented team.
> 
>yes, i was very impressed by their ability to score 12 whole points against
>Duke's monster defense. in fact, duke's a.d. said after that game that duke
>football fans (are there any? the duke-uva game didnt even get a full story
>in the raliegh news and observer last sat.) should not be surprised if
>this was dukes only win for the season....
> 

Well, looking back on old postings, I noticed this one.  Looking at what you're
saying about that Duke 'D'......well, Rice scored 21 or 22 against Texas and
Oklahoma scored 24 against Texas.  Does this mean Rice's offense is as good as
Oklahoma's.  Oh, and is the Duke 'D' better than that of Texas (based on points
scored by Rice).  

This is college football ..... anything can happen (points may or may not be
scored, regardless of defensive quality).  How do you explain SMU being at .500
after 6 games?

>-rob

Mark
From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:51:44 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct7.154659.23682@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.021833.14973@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> curran@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Brian Curran) writes:
>[lots of rational drivel deleted. here's the irrational stuff:]
>
>>Where a student can graduate
>>from high school if he can identify his parents from the rest of his
>>first cousins.
>
>An OKIE making fun of EDUCATION elsewhere? This is getting richer...
>
>>Where the best university is run by Aggies.
>
>A&M is a good school. Very good at certian things. But ranked behind
>Texas and Rice in almost everything (even the engineering school,
>
>>>		For the fourth year in a row, 
>
>>You can count?  Gee, I knew Gov. Richards was improving higher education,
>>but I am truly amazed!  You count better than your cousins at College
>>Station :-/.
>
>And finally another attack on HIGHER education. Like there is such a thing
>in Oklahoma. Sheesh. ;-) 
>
>Jay
>-- 
>  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       


  All this talk on the educational superiority of OU reminds me of an
  old joke. For those of you who haven't heard it,

  Q:  What happens when an aggie leaves A&M and joins OU ?

  A:  He brings up the average IQ of both Texas and Oklahoma !


  GO HORNS !

  Jay  (the original one !)

  R. Jayakrishnan.  Univ of California, Irvine.


  PS:  I am surprised to find some articles from OU.  I was under the
       impression that there were no computers in sooner-land.  At least
       that was what I thought, seeing the response from OU on the
       stuff that we wrote about them last year before the game !
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From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:47:32 GMT

In article <19901@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>}} In article <1992Oct7.183013.5733@news2.cis.umn.edu> milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:
>}} 
>}} What are the biggest, oldest, most intense rivalrys in the country and are
>}} they as intense to both teams?
>
>I'd have to vote for UMich/tOSU based on the "intense for both teams"
>qualifier.  Purdue and Indiana is another, but I also like to mix in

My votes are for Nebraska/Oklahoma and Oklahoma/Texas.

As for intensity, I'd say it would be on the NU side for the first
and about equal for the other.

Dave 
-- 

Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093

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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:24:16 GMT

In article <BvrBxu.Lv5@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:
>
>The Uva band... what can you say about them???  They are simply a rag-tag band,
>if you can call them that.  They have no taste, not to mention that they suck!
>Sorry if I'm offeneding anyone, but they do.  We (University of Illinois) went
>to the Citrus bowl with them (Univeristy of Virginia) on January 1, 1990.  Just
>for the record (and to rub it in!) our football team kicked thier butts!!  Our
>marching band also kicked thier marching bands butts!!  They don't have 

UVa does not have a marching band. The Pep Band is not a marching band and
is not designed to be one. The Pep Band is
designed to be entertaining with their halftime and pre-game shows in
which they rip apart not only the school we're playing but any other
topic they can think of. The Pep Band used to be a lot funnier - they've
instituted a review board which screens all of the jokes now. The
student section commonly chants "Bor-ing" and "High School Band" whenever
opposing teams marching bands take the field to perform. I believe we
did just that at the Citrus Bowl. 

>uniforms.  They wear hats, and orange vests with buttons and all sorts of
>garbage attached to them.  They can't play or march, and they repeatedly play
>Auld Lang Syne for some sort of fight song... boy, that's a crowd rouser!!!!!

That's not Auld Lang Syne - it's the Good Old Song, the unofficial
alma mater of U.Va., which several teams have heard a lot of this
season.


-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.
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