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From: mjeffrey@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Michael Jeffrey)
Subject: Telecommunications in Michigan
Organization: Nova Scotia Department of Education
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:27:49 GMT

   Welcome to teachers in the telecommunications course. Remember that there 
are educators north of the border too who like to make use of 
telecommunications in their courses.
  I am involved in one project through Internet and another through FIDONET 
which carries K12.Chat.
  Have a great summer.
Michael
From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: I need help
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:10:11 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <04 Aug 92 13:32:02 >, Adi Mashiach (2:401/151) writes:

 AM>I'm Adi Mashiach, and I need help to crack something.
 AM>
 AM>This something is a meteorological software that called cv700.
 AM>
 AM>It is protected with a plug called deadlock3 (like Qtext 4.00).
 AM>
 AM>If anyone know how to crack it please tell me and I'll be gratefull to
 AM>him and I will give him any game he wants and Excel 4.0 .
 AM>
 AM>(Games like : Iniana Jones and the fate of atlantis)
 AM>

This network K12Net does not permit the illegal distribution of copywrited  
software.  Your request is totally out of line. 



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From: Joel.Helton@p1.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Helton)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Conversation
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 12:43:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.1 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

In a message dated 8/13/92, John Feltham wrote to Joel Helton about Conversation
. . . 

  JF> G'day Joel!
  JF> 
  JF> Tuesday August 11 1992, Joel Helton writes to Linda Klughart:
  JF> 
  > Hi back Linda from a fellow educator in Nashville, TN.  My school too
  > will be starting back soon....where has the summer gone.
  > 
  JF> The teachers down-under, are hoping that it is on its way down-under!
  JF> That will maen that we get our long holidays, just like you are having
  JF> now!

Oh well, send them right back when you get through with them. <g>  

Joel



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From: Alice.Cotton@f2.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Alice Cotton)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: NEW KIDS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:01:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/2

Thanks for your interest. I would be interested in some of your ideas
as well.  As for in the classroom I haven't really come up with 
anything that I like. I try to hook up the new child with a buddy to 
help them learn the routines for I run a fairly complicated 
classroom where children are very self directed and independent in 
their learning. Sometimes new kids feel very lost for a while and I 
generally have little or no time to help them...I hate this. The 
reason I am concerned with the "new kid" issue is that we are in an 
area of transition - people moving in and out - a lot of apartments 
- suburb style, new apartments. Also our society has become so 
mobile that there will always be "new kids". What do you do with 
them when your class is operating and functioning at a high level of 
independence - a level that took a lot of training and work to 
achieve. OR for that matter, any classroom which encompasses any 
teaching/learning style - how can we make a new kid feel 
comfortable.If you have any ideas on this, I would be very 
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From: TERRI.COX@f200.n301.z1.fidonet.org (TERRI COX)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Special Ed. Integration
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:43:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:301/200 - The Electronic Trib, Albuquerque NM


Molly, my elementary school is tryping something different in Sp. Ed
mainstreaming for our scool.  Eight children who are learning disabled
will be in the same classroom with 15 fourth graders just as if they
were in the regular class.  I will try to keep you updated.  Our school
year begins this Monday, Aug 17.  I hope that you will find inventive
ways to mainstream.  Good luck, Terri Cox



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From: Rita.Requa@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rita Requa)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Wanted: 4th grade penpals
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 10:35:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

I teach 4th grade in a suburb just North of Seattle, Washington.  I 
would like to have my students participate in a penpal program. 
Carolyn, if you have already arranged with someone to do this 
perhaps another 4th grade teacher on line would reply to me. 

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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Info about New Students
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 14:38:19 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Carol,
I am in an alternative high school where I get new students every Monday.  
I have developed a one page questionnaire that I have each student fill
out once a year. (One form suffices even if they change classes or have me for 
more than one class.)  I ask them their name, address, phone number and name
of who they live with (often the parents).  I ask them learning style
questions about what they LIKE and DISLIKE to have or do in a classroom (I
leave it open ended but solicit things like liking to work with others,
needing quiet, needing lots of options or lots of structure). 

Since they work with computers a lot in my classroom I tell them they
will be frustrated a lot and ask them how they handle frustration.

I also ask them what computer experience they have, and have been 
surprised to find that quite a few of them have some sort of computer
in their home.  (My students are generally NOT affluent, but this seems to be
a national trend.)
Perhaps the most interesting thing to me is I have them rate their skills in
the following areas: reading, writing, spelling, math, and typing.  They just
circle a number from 1 to 5 (a Likert scale).  Often their ratings are
similar to standardized scores; their perception of their skills helps me be
more sensitive to their needs.
I also ask them why they are taking the course and what they hope to get out
of it.  That can be quite helpful to tailor their coursework along with the
answer to another questions about their life-long goals.
At least two other teachers on my staff have modified my form and also use it, 
so they must have found it useful.

One thing I do with new students is I often pair them up with someone in the
classroom for a short task. I often mix genders, too.  The students seem to
comply readily, and I think that as a teacher I can help out by basically
introducting them to others and give them an opportunity to interact.

By the way, we really _hate_ having new students that often, but it is a
budgetary necessity.

Hope this long answer was something like you were looking for

Julie :-)


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From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Nashville
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:38:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Hello, Joel II: Well, someone NOT named Joel will have to answer my message from Nashville, before I believe you  aren't all named 'Joel'! 
(chuckle)
I'm glad that I could set you up so nicely for your joke - that type of joke doesn't just fit into everyday conversation without some help 
- glad I could be of assistance.
Yes, our village has a school. We have approx. 200 students from K- 8. Highschool students are bussed into P.A. We have students who are bussed into our school from an approx. 30 mile radius. This translates into some pretty lengthy bus rides. We have students who are on the bus between 7:30-7:45 A.M., school starts at 9A.M.
I will be teaching grade 2 this year. We start in just 3 more sleeps..."sob"
I have seen several of my future and ex - students this year while swimming at the lake, and they all seem anxious to start school again 
- although what could the poor kids say otherwise to a 'teacher'? 
Actually, I had one student swim out to where I was (over her head) and while treading water told me she couldn't wait for school to start because the summer was boring. Do you think there is hope for this student? Maybe I should refer her to the nearest holiday counsellor....
Well, I won't bore you with any more of this drivle. Take care,
Linda 


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From: Graham.Gales@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Graham Gales)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: *Mathmagic
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:39:30 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Gday from down under....
have just seen the Mathmagic materials on K12Net.

Sounds exciting!

How is it going?  Would it be possible to send me some details of what you are doing? and how you expect it will work?

Would you be interested in participation from the land of Oztralia? I work as a computer consultant supporting schools adn teachers using computers and would be willing to promote this through the schools that I work with.

We also run a series of activities via e-mail across Australia through a system called Keylink, one of which is a Mathematics one


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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Contact
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 19:20:13 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  
  JP> Hello, I have been trying to get a message to Susan Purcell-Orleck and
  JP> have not received an answer.  Is Susan related to you?  If so would
  JP> you ask her is she is interested in continuing our pen pal project
  JP> again this next year?  Thank you.  :)Jim
  JP> 
  
   Hi Jim,
  
      Yes, Susan is my wife and is very interested in continuing the pen pal
project.  We are in the process of building a new house (and packing up this
one) so neither of us has had as much time as we would like to respond to mail.
I'll let her know about your notes to her tomorrow....

      Regards,


      Joel Orleck



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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: *MathMagic
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 21:17:53 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Hi Sonny!  I received your request for information.
Is it possible for you to get it here (Look for
updated MathMag2.LZH).  The Fido packet is complete
and contains MathMagic Guide in the most current
form, a MathMagic Example Problem and Solution
Format, the MathMagic Timeline, MathMagic
Registration Guide, and MathMagic Problem Criteria,
and MathMagic Goals.  If not, let me know, and I'll
mail it to you general post.  Thanks.  Carol


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From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Special Ed. Integration
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:22:37 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Hi, Molly! Since one two hundredth of the population is gifted and one two-hundredth mentally handicapped, it stands to reason that we not drop all our special needs into one classroom. I have integrated up to two in one classroom. I feel that more than that causes them to be segregated by the other students as they are in their own 'group' and that is counterproductive to the reason we are integrating. Also, some of the things done by specialists are intrusive in a regular classroom setting. It simply is 









not realistic for a teacher to pull out a gym mat and do PT or OT in the classroom.  This would be counterproductive to the self-esteem of the student involved - dignity and all that! As I said earlier, when  the other students are doing things such as social studies (in the upper grades, since we do family and neighbourhood things in our division 1 they could participate), or science - these are the times when taking the student out to brush teeth, or see the OT, etc. can occur. I believe the student shou









ld remain in the room when reading and math are going on, even in the upper grades.
If the student is receiving age-appropriate materials, reading and math are still realistic for them to be in class for. Of course, age-
 appropriate materials is another discussion, but I believe a good 
deal of the programming hinges on the ability and creativity of those involved to make sure the child is getting appropriate education, age wise and level wise.
Hope this helps. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask....I may not have the answers, but I'm sure someone out there reading this will have!
Take care,
Linda



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From: Zelma.Gragg@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Zelma Gragg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:53:10 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

We were in the southern part of the province and it was about 4hrs. 
drive north from Minot,N.Dakota.  Very much farm land, but so 
beautiful and pleasant!  We really enjoyed visit.  Since we live so 
far south(El Paso, Texas)it was the first time we saw the Northern 
Lights.  Yorkton was a larger city that Churchbridge is southeast on 
Highway 14 if that helps any!  What type of school do you teach in?  
And what level or subject?  I teach Resource in an year-round 
elementary school.  One thing we seemed to have in common with the 
area we visited was the dual language situations.  We have everything 
in English and Spanish here & it was in English and French in the 
province.  Can be interesting at times!  Do you have many kids that 
are bilingual?  How is that situation handled in the schools?  Hope to 
hear from you soon and you do have a beautiful country!


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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Nashville
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:55:31 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

 Hi Linda,

     When you receive this message, you may think that everyone in Nashville
is named Joel (not true) but it is true that everyone here knows how to do the

"Achy Breaky".  I also want to let you know that Elvis is no longer *homeless*!!
 He was seen just last week at a 7-11 selling corndogs.  

You wrote to my friend, Joel Helton....

  LK> village of approx. 100 people about 25 miles from the nearest city.
  LK> The nearest city is Prince Albert, pop. approx. 40,000 people. My
  LK> village doesn't have community run sewer and water -we each have our
  LK> own wells and a pump out system. 

 Tell me a little about your schools.  Does your village even have a school??
 Or, do they travel to Prince Albert for their education??

  LK> Our homes are fully modern

  Same here...as a matter of fact a friend of mine recently carpeted his bathroom
and liked it so well that he decided to run it all the way in to the house.
         
                    (Nashville joke stolen from Mike Snider) 


  Sorry, but I have been waiting a long time to use that joke even if it wasn't
mine.  

   I teach 7th/8th grade math at Meigs Magnet School.  We are part of the public
school system but our students come from all over the city.  Primarily, we serve
those students who are "academically talented." We are different from other
middle schools in that our students are not "zoned" here...and we offer a lot
in the way of foreign language, the arts, and computers.  It is a good school
and I am very fortunate to be part of the faculty here!

   Regards,

   Joel Orleck

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From: cpierce@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Carolyn M. Pierce)
Subject: Merv Stals
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:09:26 GMT

Merv,
I received your reply, but messed up in my response to you. I
would be pleased for my class to be penpals with your class.
Please contact me again.  I am new at this.  Please advise.

Carolyn Pierce
From: Chris.Rowan@f100.n397.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: The Cuckoo's Egg
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:39:32 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:397/100 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

 > Hi Chris,
 > It was very nice to hear from you.  I am still learning how to
 > use this and really want to try establishing a pen-pal tele.
 > com. with my class.  Keep in touch.  I talked to my principal
 > and he thought we might be able to establish a phone line oput
 > to my portable. That is the first step for me.  Let's stay in
 > touch.
 > Rick

Hi Rick,

Are you going to participate in Mathmagic?  I am.

                                            Chris


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From: Robert.Brault@p1.f130.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Brault)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Channel 1
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:33:54 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/130.1 - SPPRLBL, Laval PQ

Hi Linda !

 LK> Channel 1 and Language art?  I assume you mean the 
 LK> language art area of K12 - but what is channel 1?
 LK> You never stop being a teacher...now you have to teach 
 LK> us less gifted BBS users!

        I'll post an answer on this one since I believe it will reach you faster than John's own answer. 

        Channel 1 is one of 12 channels message section in K12Net; besides the usual classroom subjects (maths, litterature, etc...) we have also on K12, 12 "channels" that can be used for short term projects between schools. Usually a K12 bbs receives all K12 section of messages; it could be possible either your bbs doesn't get these channels or the SysOp of your bbs has put them offlimits until someone starts a project where your school might be interested. Check this out with him (her). Here's what you 







will find going on the channels right now:


channel 0: Inter Class Pen pals messages (moderator Helen Sternheim)
        1: Holiday whimseys (mod: John Feltham) until Aug 31st
        2: MathMagic (mod: Carol Hooper and Alan Hodson) from Sept. 1st to                 Nov. 1st
        3: Science enrichment project between Coral Sea and UMass until Aug                 31st
        4: avail.
        5: Computer curriculum (mod: Rob Reilly) until Sept. 20th
        6,7 and 8: avail.
        9: Star Trek RPG (mod: Peter Stark) until Aug 31st
        10, 11 and 12: avail.

        On these channels, usually given for 2 months projects, special projects are shared amongst interested schools during the schoolyear. You can read about the new projects being proposed in the teachers area or the sysop area on K12 and thus see if your school might be interested in a particular project.

Bye

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert


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From: Molly.Wergeland@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Molly Wergeland)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Special Ed. Integration
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:56:03 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

Linda those are good points. I certianly agree about the number of 
students integrated into the class room. On the other hand I feel 
that some Communication goalls and Occupational therapy goals could 
be better met in the regular class room. Especially in the younger 
grades. We had a student with motor control and receptive language 
delays and the goal was to respond to give me the crayon or book etc 
by putting the object into the asking persons hand. This motor skill 
could be more refined in the future by changing the size of the 
target area the student was to put the object. As his motor control 
improved it could then be used in a more refined task like keyboard 
hunt and peck or a vocational skill like sorting or sticking lables 
on envelopes. I bet this is what you are talking about when you talk 
about it being up to the instruction team to be creative. This was 
not successful in our setting . I feel like there was not a good 
system for the teacher assistant, special education teacher , OT, 
and CDS to communicate and thus a breakdown in the goal. It is so 
difficult to find the time and the avaliability of all to plan. This 
is a frustration I face as a team member. Well you are great to 
discuss this with me. I am enjoying your experience and input.

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From: Stan.Woodard@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Stan Woodard)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: POWs/MIAs
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:25:10 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

Hopefully, someone in your area will see this message and reply.
For the last 20 years I have received mail from parents of soldiers
missing in your region. There was a time, a year, ('68/'69) that I
was in the central highlands with the 4th Infantry Div. G-1 in Pleiku.
Part of my job(a GS 11 position) while I was an E-5, I might add, was
to collect data on personnel within the mid and western third of South
Vietnam. Thus, I get questions to which I have no anwers.
There is one particular individual that I'd really like to track down.
He was shot down from a chopper on Friday the 13th in December, 1968.
His name is Lt. Morgan Donahue. Supposedly, 3 or 4 others fell to the
ground where they were led away by opposing soldiers. Donahue, as "eye
witnesses," whoever they were, said that Lt. Donahue's parachute tangled
high up in a tree with him still attached. He wasn't shot and he was
left, according to the personnel that made statements to either his
father, LTC. Bud Donahue or his brother, who has been to the site near
the Laotian border city of Phoubaytang, and was living at last notice
in Hong Kong, keeping up the search for his brother who he is convinced
is alive somewhere in a triangler area where Laos, Cambodia, and VN touch
borders. A few years ago, there were supposedly 40,000 pathet Lao troops
in that area, moving American soldiers from place to place.
This is also where Ross Perot at one time thought there might be live
Americans. I have seen no hard proof. My opinion is, there are no live
soldiers in SE Asia against their will today. Prove me wrong.
My address is 701 Center, North Muskegon, MI. 49445. If Morgan Donahue
is alive, he must wonder what the heck we've been doing all these years.
For myself, I've been trying to get a good teaching job for the last
22 years, and am still looking. He might be better off where he is,
but I owe it, as a veteran and a person who took the initial report
on him and others to keep the lines of communication open until the
complete documentation on all these people is validated with hard
proof.
I would appreciate input that I will surely pass along to people that
have been thru a long enough nightmare.


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