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From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Your comments on Supra modems
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:13:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.084755.22036@u.washington.edu> hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas) writes:
>dtiberio@libws4.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>
>>   I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND SUPRA MODEMS - IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE
>
>I really, really like my Supra v.32bis. I had no trouble setting it up,
>it's fast as hell, the faxes are great, the software is great, the price
>is great, the display is great, the manual is great, and the company has a
>terrific ROM upgrade policy.
>
>I WOULD RECOMMEND SUPRA MODEMS UNRESERVEDLY-I HAVE HAD FEWER PROBLEMS WITH
>IT (0, TO BE EXACT) THAN ANY OF MY FRIENDS HAVE HAD WITH OTHER HIGH SPEED
>MODEMS.


	I like my Supra modem a lot too...but I have gone through 3
of them and each one has the same problems. They cannot connect to
each other. they cannot answer the phone (important for a guy like me
who runs a BBS). I have told Supra again and again what the problems
are. The next one I get will be hooked up in 5 seconds, and I will
load my terminal program and type ATA. If I hear it making squeal
noises and send improper answer tones, then it is going right back in
the box and back to Supra. If the LED starts flickering like crazy, it 
is going back in the box. If it suddenly drops carrier on me, it is going 
in the box. If it suddenly for no reason turns on the send and receive
lights even when it isn't being used, or if a verticle bar slides across
the screen, or if it makes one more hiss noise, or if another speaker
blows, I am sending it  back.

	And if I get one more pre-tested modem, brand new, that has a
broken LED as soon as it is turned on for the first time, I will send
it back. BEWARE OF THE SUPRAFAX MODEMS.


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                   ** NO LONGER RUNNING ON A SUPRA MODEM **
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  Problems with your Supra modem? Join the Supra Mailing List. Send email to
     subscribe@xamiga.linet.org, and ask specifically for the Supra list!
From: cs_e445@ceres (Vlod Kalicun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: .dms
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:08:47 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

thorntonj@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (EXT. 3328) writes:
: Can someone tell me which archiver I need or what I need to do
: to use .dms files. Any help will be appreciated.

Isn't this a FAQ??
Okay.. have a guess .. go on have a guess and you'll probably get it!
Now that wasn't that hard was it! 

Try looking at ../amiga/archivers etc..

Vlod

PS Isn't it somewhere is the 'Guidelines to posting to Usenet, that you do
   a bit of research, as a lot of people use USENET, and it costs lots of money?
From: c1a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Oliver Erik Seiler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!!! validating HD
Date: 16 Dec 1992 11:54:03 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites) says:
> also avoid clearing off starting over with a new format. (as least not as
> often.)  If there is a program which will politely handle marking blocks as
> unreadable, or kill the file without messing around with the disk too much,
> I'd like to hear of it.

I believe that QuarterBack Tools can do this... Actually, maybe *I* should
get it...

-Oliver

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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Shell problems under Amigados 3 - explained
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:51:01 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

I reported that I was having problems with shell scripts and aliases being
'echoed' back to me on the shell screen.

This was due to ENVARC having an 'echo' file with the word 'on' in it.

Similarly failed commands always checking for DF0:  was a ENVARC file of
'path' with dfo:c and c: in it. Removing these files solved most of my
problems.

Sorry, I don't know how to cancel previous messages,otherwise I would.

Dac
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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 4000 review
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:23:41 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec14.154814.14815@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dcr3567@ultb.rit.edu () writes:

>My only question is that when I reboot, the hard drive appears to lose
>power for a second.  It knocks out, slows down, and then recalibrates
>itself and spins back up.  So many spin-ups and spin-downs certainly can't
>be healthy, are they?

When you reset the Amiga (any Amiga) via keyboard, a true to life hardware
reset is sent to the system.  Most hard disk adaptors, including IDE and SCSI,
send a version of this reset signal on to the disks attached.  What the disk
actually does with that reset signal is up to the drive manufacturer.  It's a
pretty safe bet that whatever noises come out of the drive at that point are
what the drive manufacturer intended.  Whether or not that affects the 
longetivity of the drive or not may depend upon the moral character of your
drive manufacturer as much as anything else.

>   This is the main reason I like.. heck, love this machine. They really
>did their homework on this one.

Glad to hear it.  If you see some of the postings originating from these parts,
you'll notice many of us are in this biz for more than just the money (eg, they
basically stop paying at 6PM).

>The only interesting jumpers are one that says DO NOT REMOVE, and another 
>labeled 1MAPROM ENable/DISable (j400).  Anyone?

The "DO NOT REMOVE" jumper is for testing.  The board doesn't work with it 
removed under normal conditions.  J400 enables or disables a hardware ROM
remapping feature.

>   The really interesting jumpers are on the motherboard, though.
>      j213 - 2M/8M  CHIPRAM   (8 megs of chipram!?!?)

Nope.  Just a carryover from when such a thing was discussed as a possible
future option.  It was decided to get more aggressive, so don't expect any
drop-in upgrades.

>      j975 - outlined bank of 6 jumpers.. no jumps though.  Anyone?

"Reserved for future use".  There are 8 new jumper bits that can be read by
Lisa in with the mouse quad signals.  The first two were assigned to define
the type of AA system (16, 32, or 64 bit memory, the A4000 is hardwired in
the 64 bit position).

>      j850 - 68020 [Huh!?!]

Extra logic could be added to the motherboard to support a 68020 module.  This
is obviously not necessary if you already have a 68040 module.

>      j100 - CLKS INT/EXT, jumpered to EXT (clock doubling processor, 
>             a la DX2?)

That determines where the system's basis clock originates.  Much like the A3000,
the A4000 motherboard can generate the basic 25MHz system clocks, or these can
be generated on the CPU board.



-- 
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From: kroener@cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Kroener)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!!! validating HD
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:33:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of the Saarland, Germany

In article <92347.060235ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone know how to correct this problem?  About every 6 months a
>situation will arise where the system crashes while it is writing to the
>hard disk.  When I reboot, I get a disk error due to a bad key.  The disk
>won't validate.  I can still read from it except for the file that was being
>written when the crash occurred.  I cannot, however, write to the hard disk
>because it is not validated.  I usually reformat the disk and start from
>scratch, but it seem like it should be fixable.  (Like if you could override
>the need for validation and erase the corrupt file). Any ideas? or pd programs
>I should know about?
>  Much Thanks
>    Anthony Beecher

NEVER (!!) delete a corrupt file on an unvalidated disk.
I had the same problem and deleted the corrupt file (length 500kB), and
the (also corrupt) pointers to the data deletes 500kB of data spread
over the disk.
After rebooting and validating the disk later, I could see only 16kB (16000
Bytes) of my 65 MB Harddisk. No chance to get the information back (try to find
something on a 65MB-disk using a disk-monitor :-)

If you can read the disk (I couldn't) try to make a backup. After doing this
try the tool 'Diskrepair' (PD) to correct the bad key. I never tested it,
but friends say it works fine.

            ----Thomas
From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A2232 and AmigaDOS 2.1
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.29 4/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:22:54 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

Does AmigaDOS 2.1 contain a new driver for the A2232?
--
bruce@zuhause.mn.org
Youth is wasted on the young.

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From: amiga@Hawaii.Edu (ftp Amiga Manager)
Subject: Re: A4000 upgrade from A3000?
Organization: University of Hawaii
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:21:22 GMT

UKGV@DKAUNI2.BITNET wrote:
: In article    <Bish.00mb@xanodria.UUCP> Doug Bischoff writes:
: >     I've heard several people mention "upgrading my A3000 to an A4000."
: > What does one have to do to do this?  How much does it cost?  What about all
: > that stuff I've got on my HD?  Who do I contact (presumably CBM)?
: > bish@xanodria.UUCP  -or-  coplex.com!bish%xanodria.UUCP  -or-  DEB110@psuvm
: 
: Well, Commodore would'nt be Commodore if they offered an upgrade.  Of
: course you'll have to buy a completely new machine.
: Dietmar Heidrich, Germany

In germany, maybe.  Here in the US, at least, we have had upgrades offered
on virtually every new platform.  I myself upgraded my A1000 to an A3000
last summer (supplied a manual cover w/ serial # and got something like
$1000 off MSRP).  I haven't heard anything yet about an upgrade program
for any of the new AGA machines.  I've been led to believe though that
these programs are offered independently by the different CBM's of each
country.  Blame CBM Germany, not CBM in general.

-baron
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From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:46:40 GMT

Quoth shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown):

]> If people wrote not only OS freindly but OS legal programs they would crash no
]> morte often than a program on the IBM (or compats).  It is flaky software not
]> hardware.  This unfortunately will not change, because C= charges way too much
]> to become a registered developer, and Amiga programming is so different than
]> IBM programming.  It is more like Mac programming, because damn near everything
]> is an OS call.  

This makes no difference... most of the buggy programs I come across are
simple Enforcer hits, something that can be traced by an UNregistered
devoloper for free.  Not only that, but it seems even the registered
developers can't write clean software... just witness the enforcer hits
from several "staple" programs like DM2 or (gasp) WorkBench 2.04 (Yep,
workbench.)

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:11:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Dec12.001150.6340
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Multitasking is usually used for printing
> and working, or copying and working...not playing games which is
> usually an all-consuming activity.    

This is the standard and fairly limited description of multi-tasking,
usually made by those who do not have it to those who do.  Note that many
of the same IBMers who poo-pooed multi-tasking over the last 5 or so years
are now drooling all over themselves over OS/2.  Why?  Because it
multi-tasks!  ;-)  Oh, well...



        -=- Ed


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From: aites@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jim Aites)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:53:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Dismounting a Device?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc

To remove msh: wasn't there a program called 'die' that came with the 
distribution?  Well, if you haven't got that, then you might try...

assign msh: remove
From: S.N.Owen@newcastle.ac.uk (Si Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Dismounting a Device?
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:28:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1gagj8INN73u@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, bubblz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Boy Wonder) writes:
>Is there any way to dismount a device under ADOS 1.3?  
>Say you've mounted a messydos device, you've used it, and now you
>want to dismount it to free up every available resource for a nasty
>app.  How can you?  Is there a tiny little program somewhere?
>Maybe Orgasm or something?  Is is something stupid like mount -u device?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jason

 A program called 'die' that comes with messydos should do the job for you.


 Si
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From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: Good news!  Tired of vague filenames? ...
Originator: shulick@navajo
Reply-To: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:18:55 GMT


Hello, all.

Maybe a few of you remember my old program, "Class."  I think the latest
release was v1.2.  Anyway, it determined what type of a file something
was.  Well, it was crappy.. :)  The source code was very sloppy and
inefficient.  So I'm doing a total rewrite, and this release will be
TClass 3.0.  It recognizes the following types of files:

   FORM files (IFF, that is.  'FORM' includes ANY type of IFF: 8SVX,
      ILBM, ANIM, etc.)  Note, the way of determining this sort of
clashes with the program's structure.. I'll worry about that later,
though.

  Other things recognized: C source, Assembly source, *.o files, C
includes, info files, executables, zoo archives, lzh archives, DMS
archives, GIFs, fonts, MED songs, compressed files (*.Z), icons, MED
modules, lha archives, MovieSetter anims, JPEGs, and uuencoded files.
(whew) :)  "Well, what about <filetype>!" you ask? :)  TClass has a
learn option, as well. (ALL of these filetypes are stored in
S:TClass.brain)  Anyway, let's say you (for some strange reason) wanted
TClass to recognize MS-DOS executables.  In the learning process, just
as with humans, the more samples you have, the more accurate.  For
instance, if you just give LAMEPROG.EXE to TClass, it wouldn't have any
basis of comparison.  Now if you feed LAMEPROG.EXE, FOOBAR.EXE,
BLECH.EXE, BIFF.EXE all into TClass, what it does is it compares Magic
Numbers (tm) (fancy phrase for initial bytes) of all the files, and
where it finds them common, it records these bytes as well as their
positions, in S:TClass.brain.  So, obviously, the more files of the same
type you feed it, the more accurate future determinations will be.  The
structure of S:TClass.brain will be VERY strange.  It will almost
resemble source code.  Here's a very rough draft, which will probably
change once I get the project going:
  TClass.brain:

MED module::0=77,1=77,2=68,3=48::
Icon::0=-29,1=16,2=0,3=1,4=0,5=0,6=0,7=0,8=0::
C source::@isext(.c)::

Very simple. :)  (the documentation will explain everything clearly)
But for the most part, you won't have to edit S:TClass.brain, though you
can, and quite easily w/ the help of another program I'll include
(showbytes) and, of course, the docs.

This will take quite some time for me to develop.  I'm going on vacation
soon, and when I get back, after I get situated with classes, I should
have quite a bit of time to program this baby.  Watch for it! :)

Merry X-mas

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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: AGA Monitor
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:20:16 GMT

Are there monitors, other than C='s ones, that support all modes of the new 
AGA computers? By monitors, I mean ones that are currently in production. Not
the older ones such as the NEC3D.
 
Thank's,

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: What the HELL are Commodore playing at ?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:18:03 EST
Reply-To: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

ajs@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Satterthwaite) writes:
> 	What the HELL do they think they're playing at - There has been no
> drastic change in pound/dollar ratios since the A1200 release, so they must
> have known ages ago that they were going to increase the price after xmas -
> so why did they not just make it #499 (the same price as the Falcon) include
> a HD drive and a DSP, and avoid all the criticism they aquired for these
> omissions and all the criticism they will get for the price increase.
> 

Maybe they decided it was worth a little more for a machine that (a) had 
software to run and (b) had at least some prayer of a future.

        As always, no one owes you an explanation unless you are a stock 
holder or management.  If you don't like it don't buy it or buy something 
else.
From: holler@holli.UUCP (Jan Holler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Minimum Room Temperature for an Amiga
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:41:07 GMT
Organization: private
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <10235@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
> In article <crystal.723778083@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
> >
> >I just talked to a Commodore technician.  I was told that the minimum 
> >recommended room temperature for operating an Amiga is 41 degrees Fahrenheit.
> 
> (Please, almighty god, teach those Amis SI units!!! PLEASE! We *never* use
> Fahrenheit, so we also have no conversion formula. Is this below zero (C)?)

Well, I know one. ;-)

xC = (9/5*x+32)F
xF = ((x-32)*5/9)C

But you are correct: Why make it simple if there is a hard way?

BTW: The SI-unit for temperature is not C, it is K.

> Well, there is indeed a limit. I only know the german term "Taupunkt"
> (perhaps condensation point?): You get inevitable humidity condensation
> below this temperature. Condensation is absolute poison at least for
> floppy drives, but also can cause shorts and corrosion. If you e.g.
> carry a floppy with you through the cold, you should *never* put it
> directly in *any* computer, might cost you the r/w head, you have to
> let it warm up.

Condensation starts only if you carry something colder into an warmer
environment. Is see no problem operating an Amiga in a cold environment,
such as 32 Fahrenheit (0 C), but would not go much down under that. But
give it a chance afterwards to warm up und dry if you take it under your
christmas tree and let it play a game for the kids.

A good idea is to put it in a tight and closed plasticbag BEFORE bringing
it in a warm place, so condensation can't start, since the humidity
builds up on the outside of the bag.

> 
> -- 
> Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
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> Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!

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From: rschuler@iastate.edu (Rodney A Schuler)
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:31:34 GMT

In <1992Dec17.070805.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>I have been having trouble with the commodity ClickToFront.
> 
>I understand this is supposed to allow you to double click
>anywhere in a window and bring it to the front (?)
> 
>I have tried starting this by double clicking on the icon
>and by putting it in the wbstartup and rebooting, neither
>approach got it to work.  Any ideas what I might be doing
>wrong?
> 

RTFM (read the FINE manual)

select the ClickToFront icon & press C=I (open amiga & i at same time)  You
will get the info window for ClickToFront.  You will see some tooltypes
entires.  One of them will be the qualifier (key one must press while double
clicking for ClickToFront to do its magic).  Comment it out (I think `(' is
the comment char, again RTFM), or delete that tooltype.  Now you will not
have to press any key to ClickToFront.

Rodney Schuler
Nuclear Engineering      Remember: One, JUST ONE thermonuclear device
Iowa State University              can ruin your whole day!
rschuler@iastate.edu

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