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From: wsadkin@bbn.com (Will Sadkin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage,rec.music.misc
Subject: Strength in Numbers
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:38:15 GMT
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I am looking for any information regarding the band "Strength In Numbers".

I saw them serendipitously on PBS (I can't even remember the show title), and
loved what I heard.  I ran out and searched for a CD by them, and found 
"The Telluride Sessions", on the MCA label.  This disc is terrific, and is, I 
believe, a studio recording of the same tunes they played live on TV.  

What I'm looking for is any information re:
1) Do these guys have anything else out?
2) Are they planning to?
3) Anybody remember the PBS show title? (I wanna see if my local stations plan
   to rebroadcast)
4) These guys played solo previously; any references to some good CDs by the
   band members would be great!
5) References for good bands of similar style.

For those of you who've never heard of them, these guys play strictly
instrumental works, and have a unique style not easily classified into a
particular genre.  The instruments are bass, violin, mandolin, dobro, banjo, and
acoustic guitar, and the best description of the music I can give is "funky
bayou music", with some of the most original treatments of these instuments I've
ever heard.  Definitely not "country" music (though this was the section I 
found the disc in), nor is it really "folk"...  Maybe it's "bluegrass", but as
I've never followed this kind of music, I wouldn't know. :-)

Anyway, if you're looking for something off the beaten path, these guys are
terrific!

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>>Is Hearts Of Space a record label, or also a radio show sponsored by
>>HOS?.  If its a record label, can somebody  post their
>>discography.
>>

>Yes. Both. Stephen Hill runs the record label and also hosts the radio show.
>As the name implies, most (but not all) of the music on the label is "spacey".
>Some of the artists on the label are Michael Stearns, Kevin Braheny, Constance
>Demby, Nik Tyndall, Raphael, Bill Douglas, Tim Clark, Robert Rich, David Lange,
>Al Gromer Khan, Mychael Danna, Coyote Oldman, and Steve McDonald (his 
>"Spinfield" is one of the fewreally vigorous rhythmic works on the label).

Any specific recommendations for favorite CD's?

I really like the Narada label, but haven't tried any "space" music from
Hearts of Space.  What's the "best"?

Judy
From: sondeen@isi.edu (Jeff Sondeen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: ## What is "HEARTS OF SPACE" ##
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:08:24 GMT
Reply-To: sondeen@marleen.isi.edu (Jeff Sondeen)
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute

In article <54097@hydra.gatech.EDU> mephdbo@prism.gatech.EDU (Cosmic Stranger) writes:
>In article <3463@moscom.UUCP> tds@moscom.UUCP (Troy Shouse) writes:
>>
>>Their playlist is available for each week's show on The Well (which I
>>wish I had access to...anybody willing to do a weekly HOS_Mailing_List?
>
>[The] Well is on Internet. But I think they are still operating their 
>internet link in a beta test mode. It costs $25 to join, $10 monthly
>flat fee and $2/hr connection charge..
>

Although the excellently produced, high-calibre, and thoroughly
enjoyable PBS radio program "Hearts of Space" has been on the air
locally (in Los Angeles) for over 5 years, I feel that it is doomed to
obscurity with the seemingly myoptic decision to charge listeners
obnoxiosly for weekly playlists (commentary) and make ascii-readable
(BBS) versions costly through a single provincial BBS board [The Well]
which then apparently charges for Internet access.  While there are
certainly substantial production costs that must be recooped somehow,
isn't director Stephen Hill's real business selling radio shows to
public (and commercial) radio stations as well as selling nitch CD's
from his affiliated CD production company?  And so wouldn't the "free
advertising" aspect of Usenet more than cover some loss of newsletter
revenue if he were to submit his commentary for free and open
discussion here on rec.music.newage?  (Hint...hint..)  IMHO. :-)
--
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From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Re: New Age/Survey/Music/Artists (was -Help!)
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:57:47 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

>> John Bozeman's assumption that New Age music is connected with New Age
>> religion/mysticism is not at all naive.  In fact, many people do believe
>> they are connected. 

My first "new age" CD was John Michael Talbot, which can also be found in
Gospel (which it ain't) or contemporary Christian (I would hardly call his
music and lyrics "contemporary").

Religion is doctrinal ... music is not.  Weren't some of Martin Luther's
hymns origianlly drinking songs?

That's what's so great about music, enjoying similarities and appreciating
the differences of other cultures and realities.  (The Tibetian Monks blow
my mind).  It's interesting how many peace and conservation initiatives gain 
momentum when endorsed by musicians.

Judy
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From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Subject: Re: Judith Pintar?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:49:29 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

chrisc@kether.webo.dg.com (Chris Campbell) writes:
> 
>   Has anyone heard what Celtic harpist Judith Pintar is doing
> these days?  She recorded three albums on Sona Gaia (released
> through Narada), but hasn't had a new album out in several
> years.  Any info appreciated.
> 
> Chris

Is her work on Sona Gaia celtic in flavor, or just new age?

Judy
From: Alan.Tai@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Alan Tai)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Ottmar Liebert now on Sony?
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:00:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: samba.1992Apr12.220014.28599
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Does anyone know the story behind Ottmar Liebert's jump from Higher
Octave to Sony, which released his most recent album?

Alan  

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From: kevinh@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Kevin 'Kev' Hughes)
Subject: Where can I find good atmospheric (background) music?
Organization: Honolulu Community College Computer Center Country Club
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:11:57 GMT

        The header says it all. I'm looking for long, instrumental pieces
with a lot of mood, something I can relax, meditate, or fall asleep to.
(Or post here. :) ) Sadly, I don't have much experience with music of this
type, but I'm looking for pieces that resemble "Dawn" or "Twilight" from
Vangelis' "The City". Or, even better yet, his "Memories of Green", my
favorite.
        I've heard some great similar stuff by Brian Eno and Harold (? -begins
with an H) Pinter (? - begins with a P?), but I find it very hard to obtain any
of his earlier works. I'd very much like to find albums like this on compact
disc if possible.
 
                -- Kevin Hughes

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From: stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: New Age/Christian Survey -Help!
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:34:37 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

korins-russ@CS.YALE.EDU (Russ Korins) writes:

> John Bozeman's assumption that New Age music is connected with New Age
> religion/mysticism is not at all naive.  In fact, many people do believe
> they are connected.  Many people have asked me, knowing that I like
> New Age music, whether  I'm into "crystals" and that kind of stuff.
> 
> Maybe that does make a case for changing the name of New Age music.  But
> I don't think anyone's hurt by the name "New Age" even if it doesn't
> apply to every album and every artist.  Composers such as Yanni, Andreas
> Vollenweider and William Ackerman insist that their music is not New
> Age, but the fact is that their music comes closer to being representative
> of that genre than any other genre we have in the English language.
 
        I'm one of those who is quick to point out that the music form 
predates the term NEW AGE by well over 15 years. And while I'm a Buddhist, I 
see no connection between the two.
> 

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From: stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on a few albums...
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:40:04 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ


 
Enya - I hate to say it, but I like all three of her albums. I liked Shepard 
Moons as much as the rest..
 
Tangerine Dream - WHAT? Lilly wasn't that great, but what about OPTICAL 
RACE? I like it as much as CANYON..
 
Peter G. - Passion is EXCELLENT! (As was the movie it was written for)..
 
        I dunno if its for you, but have you heard Philip Glass's 
GLASSWORKS? For some people its really a "grating" album, but others can 
appreciate some of the finer details of the music..

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From: SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Maggie Reilly...
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:50:32 GMT
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In <11368@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk writes:

> In <3493@disuns2.epfl.ch> SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias) writes:
> 
> >In <2APR199211491192@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> brandon@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu writes:
> 
> >>      I know that Maggie Reilly has done many vocals for Mike Oldfield. I
> >> really like her voice and songs and was wondering if she has done anything
> >> on her own (ie. not on a Mike Oldfield label) and to try and get the ordering
> >> numbers for the albums/CDs, if any.
> 
> >       I dunno if she's done any solo albums, but she's been on Sisters of
> >Mercy "Vision thing" (not very newagey...), doing some nice backing vocals.
> >       I know this isn't much of a help, but I thought it might be interesting
> >to know...
> 
> Tell me more!  Is she on it a lot?  I.e. enough for a devoted Maggie
> Reilly fan to consider buying it (being only very vaguely into SOM)?
> I used to dream of that woman, but I've not heard anything of her
> since she stopped working with Oldfield.

	Well, she does SOME beacking vocals, at least on three of the songs of
the album. Not only backing, but "counterpoint" vocals too. If you are REALLY a
fan, buy it! It's a good album, more on a hard-rock style, though... If not,
jump on a gothic friend of yours (if any) or storm your local record shop and 
take a listen to it.
	Don't expect minutes-long interventions, though. It's still Eldritch
on the lead. But her part is more than singing "Ahhhoohhhihhh" in the
background.
	'Nuff said...

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From: pgf@usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: "New Age" label (was Re: New Age/Christian Survey -Help!)
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:12:40 GMT

danielh@sequent.com (Daniel Hobbs) writes:


>Although I don't really care about the label (as long as I know where
>to find it in Tower Records!  :) ), it strikes me as appropriate as a
>label for a kind of music that:

>  1.  is influenced by Eastern music and other cultural ways.
>  2.  is, at times and for some artists, characterized by a return
>        to "acoustic" instruments.
>  3.  is, at times, influenced by new music technologies (e.g.,
>        electric instruments, synthesizers,...).

>Yes, these last two are mutually exclusive, and at times I feel less
>inclined to include acoustic groups in "new age".  However, one way
>that people often visualize the future is as a (partial) return to the
>simplicity and peace of some imagined "golden days", and the acoustic
>revival (and the generally peaceful, almost "rustic" character of the
>music) seems like one expression of this.  As far as dumping both
>acoustic and electronic in the same category, I guess it's symbolic of
>how we grope and feel our way into whatever is next, and really don't
>know where we're going until we get there.
[...]
>In these terms, it's interesting that Christian music and new age
>music have remained largely separate.  The Christian camp is, of
>course, typically ultra-conservative and separatist.  And the
>eclectic and harmonizing elements in "new age" thought have, in
>my limited experience, been shunned as "falling away from the true
>faith" by any remotely conservative Christian elements.

>This may be overstated a bit, but I really think that unless
>Christianity undergoes a major theological revolution, "new age" and
>Christian will remain largely separate camps, including the music.

Catholics aren't Christians? What about that Irish new-age artist,
you know, the one who everyone's tired of seeing her name on 
rec.music.newage, who is reputedly a devout Catholic?
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From: mephdbo@prism.gatech.EDU (Cosmic Stranger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: re: where can I find atmospheric music ?
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:34:21 GMT
Organization: Sub-Etheric Cosmic Bypass Systems


>From: xxronr@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Rivett)
>
>Steve Roach             Quiet Music 1 (cassette only)
>Steve Roach             Quiet Music 3 (cassette only)
>
Why did you leave out QM 2 ?

I like all 3 of them..

d.
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From: peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream...or NOT an Enya post
Organization: Zone4
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 20:59:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr01.011848.3144@csi.compuserve.com> dfo@csi.compuserve.com (Duane Ott) writes:
>Yes it is...in fact, according to my references, three early 80s TD albums:
>White Eagle, Logos, and Hyperborea, have *never* been released in the U.S.
>in any form! Way to go, Virgin!!
>
>White Eagle is one of my favorites; very energetic and dynamic throughout.
>The first 11 minutes of "Mojave Plan" is the best.
>

I bought a used vinly copy at domestic used vinyl copy prices (cheap!) here
in Canada of Logos. I also saw a CD priced regularly at my fav record store
(this after I buy the vinyl. Ah well)... Do you know if it's only the US? I
hope us Canadians have been spared. I'm trying to complete my TD collection.

Green Desert is a mindblowing CD...


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From: kc@ee.umr.edu (Kok Ching Ong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Re: Enya ??
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:56:35 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <68730039@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
>
>I got my VHS copy on sale at sound warehouse.  The video is fun ... one track
>even features Steve Martin and his wife from L.A. Story.
>
>Judy

My favorite is the "Storms in Africa".  The video clips of the wildlife in
(supposedly) Africa is AWESOME.  Also, the music provided by the drums is 
great too.  I liked it so much that I am gonna get the Watermark (reprise) CD
because my Geffen release doesn't have that track.

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From: hector@cs.toronto.edu (Hector Levesque)
Subject: Don Harriss' music
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:42:49 GMT

Mason Wong writes:

>> Don Harriss - I bought the album because I heard the title
>> track played on Greg Stone's radio show Stonetrek on
>> 98.5 KOME during the jazz fusion segment.  It was a nice
>> instrumental with a lead jazz piano melody over a repetitive
>> synth pattern.  Unfortunately, I found the rest of the album
>> very weak and unimaginative.  Even as background music,
>> the synth tones and melodies were boring.

Maybe the music in question simply wasn't what you were looking for.  If you
were after "jazz fusion", say, you probably would come away disappointed with
Don Harriss.  Ditto if you were expecting "New Age" (at least if that's
supposed to mean "similar to Vangelis or Enya"), or to be hypnotized by
repeating patterns, or lulled by low-impact atmospherics, or whatever.  But if
you can approach the music without preconceptions and on its own terms, and
listen carefully, you may discover that instead of being "weak and
unimaginative," the music is quite rich and dense.  I don't mean to imply that
it's noisy or inaccessible; it's usually melodic, and pleasant, even in the
background.  But it's certainly not simple or derivative, and if you can start
paying close attention, and listening to the details, parts, and structure, I
think you'll find that there's a whole lot going on (in terms of choices of
foreground and background instruments, tones, voicings, melodies, harmonies,
chords, rhythms etc).  This may still end up being very boring to you (there
are no doubt some who find the cannons at the end of the 1812 Overture
boring), but I, for one, find it all very imaginative, very effective, and
very musical, categories be damned.

Hector Levesque
U. of Toronto
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Subject: Re: What's the Clannad story?
From: craddock@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Craddock)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:59:25 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

dang@cserver.plexus.COM (Dan Gardner) writes:

>I recently picked up a couple of Clannad CDs after hearing a 
>a tip that Clannad and Enya (no flames please) music was 
>similiar and shared some members.  The CDs didn't reveal a
>whole lot of information in the booklets.  The Trouser Press
>Record Guide didn't have any info.  What's the link?

This one seems to go around every so often. Consult the Enya archives but for 
your information and anyone else.

Clannad are/were a five piece trad irish band consisting of a sister Maire, two
brothers Pol and Ciaran(Sp?) and two uncles. Clannad is Gaelic for family incidently
Enya is the younger sister of Maire, Pol and Ciaran and has a member of Clannad for two years 80-82 and appears on the Fuaim Album 80. However Clannad played
trad irish music which enya felt restricted in and she left in 82.

The clannad albums which I think most enya listeners would like are Anam (91) 
and Magical Ring (82) remember these are closer to trad irish rather then the 
more cllassical style that enya uses

Mark C
Department of engineering Science       Universities kill intellect 
University of Auckland                  by Degrees
craddock@ccu1.Aukuni.ac.nz              'Andrew davies'
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From: ksb@hal2000.bellcore.com (Ken Berczik)
Subject: Re: "New Age" label (was Re: New Age/Christian Survey -Help!)
Reply-To: ksb@hal2000.bellcore.com (Ken Berczik)
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:25:27 GMT

Personally, before the term "New Age" became the the standard tag for this kind of music, I usually referred to it as "Modern Impressionism" or some variation.

I have to admit, thought, that when considering what I listen to, Windham Hill Music may be a better tag since I listen to little else that the record stores claim falls under the New Age category. (I have between 40 and 50 of the labels releases, including some on the Windham Hill Jazz label.)

Of Narada's artists, only Eric Tingstad, Nancy Rumbel, and David Lanz impress me. I bought the first two Narada Collection CDs. Except for the three above artists, there was only a few other artists I could listen to, i.e., Spencer Brewer. Most of it was an an example of every negative comment on this type of music: repetitive, bland, little more than harmonic doodling. (Don't get me wrong, just because it is repetitive doesn't mean it's bad, for example Stephen Reich's _Music for Eighteen Musicians_ and P

hilip Glass' _Glassworks._

I checked out David Arkenstone's recent disc from the local library. (I forget the name; it's the one that seems to be a concept album with a fantast motif.) I listened to it once. If I had paid for this disc, I would have been very disappointed. On the other hand, I have listened to George Winston's _Summer_ often.

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