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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ST:DS9 start dates
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:38:39 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


The two-hour premiere of ST:DS9 will occur the week of Jan 4, 1993.  The
start od the one-hour episodes will be a week later.  I previously gave out
information whereby the one-hour episodes would start the week of the 18th.
That info (from a Paramount station yet) is incorrect.  I will be double-
checking with my sources.

For those of you living in the Madison, WI, area, the two-hour premiere will
be shown on channel 3 (WISC) at these times:

	Jan  7, 1993	7pm
	Jan 15, 1993	2am (really Saturday morning)

The one hour airings start on Jan 16, 1993, at 10:30 pm.  ST:TNG will be
moving to Sundays at 11 pm.  I'm still trying to talk them into airing
ST:TNG the week-of the satellite uplink, not a week + one day later (or
one day later than currently be done).
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the flameries...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:08:18 GMT

>In article <1992Nov23.001835.25363@nuchat.sccsi.com>, rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com (Rich Kolker) writes:
>|> Well, it's good to see that nothing has changed in rec.arts.startrek in
>|> the five years or so I've been offline...

	Omighod! The Holy Kolker returned and I didn't notice it!

	(Waitaminnit....thems are redundant lines....)




-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Need help: Data's brother and fathers name??
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:37:45 GMT

In article <BxtvCs.6qu@world.std.com> tdailly@world.std.com (Terry J Dailly) writes:
>Hi, I wondered if someone could give me some help. Iam trying to find
>out the names of Data's brother and father. Any help whould be great.
>Thanks...

Data's "brother": Lore
His "father": Dr. Noonian Soong


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From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST: DS9 start dates
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:36:02 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK


  This may be an unanswerable question, but does anyone know whether
there are any plans to start showing DSN in Britain?  I hope it's
not going to take as long as TNG took to get here!!  It would be
pretty cool to have TNG and DSN on at the same time - two Trek's
a week - my poor old video won't be able to take the strain ...

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From: drue@citi.umich.edu (Chris Tanis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek the NG runners up???
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:24:22 GMT
Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
Reply-To: drue@citi.umich.edu
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----------

(Star Trek: The Next Generation...Who might they
have been?)

This enquiring mind would like to know who they were
too.  Please post or e-mail.


-- 
Chris Tanis
drue@ifs.umich.edu 
Center for Information Technology Integration
The University of Michigan      Ann Arbor, MI  48103
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Rivers...?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:43:40 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Keywords: 

In article <BxvAGr.90y@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.145130.25039@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>>
>>
>>Well, it looks like they have bumped the TNG "Joan Rivers" episode,
>>probably to some time later in the week (or at least tomorrow).
>>
>>It definitely WAS scheduled for Monday, since I saw the dated 
>>promo feed and it was also listed in the TV guide.
>>
>
>Must have been just your TV station.
>
>I saw it Monday. Interesting, but nothing great.
>

I did manage to see it, ON a local station.  For some reason the
satellite feed was changed.  Friday's show was fed on friday, but
tuesday's "hangin"(?) episode is the one that greeted me on monday's
feed.  Strange...   Oh, well.  At least it did make it on the air!

I thought it was certainly worth watching.  We got to see a little
of how the cast interacts with each other, which is always amusing.

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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Rivers...?
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:51:30 GMT



Well, it looks like they have bumped the TNG "Joan Rivers" episode,
probably to some time later in the week (or at least tomorrow).

It definitely WAS scheduled for Monday, since I saw the dated 
promo feed and it was also listed in the TV guide.

Just have to keep checking I guess...

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Spock does a NYSE radio commercial
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:39:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.152812.26762@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>San Francisco radio station KKSF (103.7) is running two ads for the
>New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), in which the narrator explains how
>powerful the computers they use are, and just how much business is
>done there, and so forth.  The narrator _really_ sounds like Leonard
>Nimoy, but there's no reference made or implied to Star Trek at all.
>Has anyone else heard these ads?  I wonder why they'd go to the
>trouble of getting him to do their ads, then not capitalize on his
>fame -- but then again, I listened carefully to the ads for any Spock
>references. ;-)

Gee, do you suppose the ad agency maybe just wanted a distinctive voice,
and Mason Adams, Fred Gwynne, and Burgess Meredith were unavailable?

-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: You heard it first here
From: DAVIS@licre.dn.mu.oz.au
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:43:49 AET
Organization: Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research

In article <1992Nov11.174937.19870@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, 
er@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Elie Rosenfeld) writes:

> Here is the inside scoop on some TNG episodes to be shown later this season:

[lots of spoilers deleted]

Oh yeah, thanks a lot, now we all know what's going to happen, why should 
we watch it now??

Haven't you ever heard of a spoiler warning?


Ian Davis                        DAVIS@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
























(Yes, of course I know it was a joke)
(And yes, I liked it very much, very clever.  Now how many people will 
flame me without reading my whole post?)

Ian Davis                           DAVIS@licr.dn.mu.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rcheek@access.digex.com (Richard Cheek)
Subject: Good STNG Characterization and Worf fan club
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: wUSA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:21:56 GMT

Are there any other Worf fans out there, or even a fan club? What does
Michael Dorn think of his character? Please e-mail responces.

				Richard
From: beckerjw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Deep Space Nine -- Out of the U.S.
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:09:20 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

If other countries are a few seasons behind the U.S., does that mean that
they will have to wait a couple of seasons to get Deep Space Nine?  
Wouldn't it be kind of a "spoiler" if they Deep Space Nine without seeing
previous few seasons?

Just Curious,
John

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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 03:02:33 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

Just some food for thought, but if, as many claim, the TOS Klingons
always looked like TNG klingons, but the makeup wasn't up to snuff,
could somebody please explain how Arne Darvin (the Klingon spy in "The
Trouble With Tribbles") was able to so successfully infiltrate Mr.
Baris's staff?  Extensive cosmetic surgery?  (Gotta take out them ridges
and put in some hair.)
-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
From: Howard.A.Rumjahn@dartmouth.edu (Howard A. Rumjahn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek the NG runners up???
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:58:04 GMT
 <1992Nov17.170034.1757@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> 
 <92322.160315JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>  
 <1992Nov19.202255.2383@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I've also heard that the guy (I don't remember his name) who plays The
Traveller was one of the final few considered for the part of Data.

Howie Rumjahn
Bok@Dartmouth.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: frisinv@alleg.edu
Subject: Re: Need help: Data's brother and fathers name??
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:47:47 GMT

In article <BxtvCs.6qu@world.std.com> tdailly@world.std.com (Terry J  
Dailly) writes:
> Hi, I wondered if someone could give me some help. Iam trying to find
> out the names of Data's brother and father. Any help whould be great.
> Thanks...
> 

Brother: Lore
Father:  Nunian Soong (sp)
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From: me90jjr@brunel.ac.uk (Jeffrey J Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: AutoCAD Enterprise Again!
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:33:38 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Jeffrey J Ratcliffe (me90jjr@brunel.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: I saw that there were some AutoCAD pictures of the Enterprise
: posted a while ago, but the thread was unavailable. I would be
: very grateful if whoever posted them would either repost them,
: or email them straight to me.
: 
: Thanks muchly in advance
: 
: Jeff me90jjr@brunel.ac.uk

Enterprise-D as well

Thanks

Jeff (Again)
From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: 11001001
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:38:55 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu

I believe those were their names, "11","00","10" and "01".
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:36:02 EST
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Need help: Data's brother and fathers name??

Father:   Dr. Noonian Soong (seen also spelled "Sung")
Brother:  Lore (seen also spelled Lor)
(From "Datalore" and "Brothers" in addition to misc references by Data)
From: jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Is there a problem here. . .?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:59:19 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

ire9934@cuphub.cup.edu writes:

>I'm curious.

[Mr. Curious' curiosity deleted...]

>If you plan to argue, make it good, and please don't
>bore me with things such as, ". . .Star Trek has paved the way for modern
>society, technology, food service, etc. . ." because, deep inside, you know
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that's a pile of s**t.

NOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR!!!!  EVERYONE KNOWS STAR TREK'S IMMEASURABLE
CONTRIBUTION TO THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY, AND THOSE WHO DON'T SHOULD
JUST GO OUT AND A GET A LIFE, YOU MISERABLE DWEEB.  YOU ARE SUCH A
SORRY SLIME AND YOU OUGHT TO CONSIDER THE CONSEQUENCES BEFORE POSTING
THIS SORT OF DRIVEL AGAIN.

Etc, etc...

Now that I think about it, this recalls the "What is Data?" thread of
a short time ago, which quickly devolved into a discussion of Data as
a toaster.  That was one of the funnier threads in a long while on
r.a.s.misc.  More of that, please.
-- 
Jonathan Blau        jsblau@panix.com      cmcl2!panix!jsblau
From: cm845@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christina D. Getrost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Klingon Trivia
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:06:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The only one I know the answer to is your first question: the
current Klingon leader is the new High Council leader, Gowron.
(played by Robert O'Reilly) Good luck finding the rest!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From:  (Kevin Weber)
Subject: Re: Deep Space 9
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 17:06:13 GMT

In article <m0msK8v-0000Z5C@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>,
rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com wrote:
> 
> F.Y.I.
> 
> There's a pretty interesting article in the latest issue of STARLOG (Jan #186)
> on DS9.  

Did you notice the similarities between DS9 and the other new show Babylon
5?  There was an article a few issues back about Babs5.  They almost sound
like the same show.

Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: r_anderson@nova.enet.dec.com (Rick Anderson)
Subject: Wanted: Name of the Lincoln Enterprises newsletter?
Reply-To: r_anderson@nova.enet.dec.com (Rick Anderson)
Organization: DEC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:41:58 GMT


I'm looking for the name of the newsletter published by
Lincoln Enterprises.  If known, please email me directly.
Thanks in advance!
Rick
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells)
Subject: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:57:59 GMT

"Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com" mentioned something
about a great difference between the Klingons seen in the Original
series versus those seen in the Movies or Next Generation.

The reason for this is that the Klingon seen in the old series
were not true Klingons; rather, they were 'fusions'--a cross breed
between a true Imperial Klingon and another race, usually human,
romulan, or orion. The Empire did this for many reasons, but one
major factor was that they did not want outsiders to know what a
true Klingon looked like.

Now, there are still a few fusion clans around, but the Imperial
Klingons have decided that they are no longer needed in the aspect
of first-contact deception.

Just my views, feel free to object! =)

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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Klingon Homeworld / Fek'lhr
Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:46:49 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1ej174INN2ts@agate.berkeley.edu> ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;RD48) writes:
>Just curious, but with STVI making lovey-dovey peace between the UFP
>and the Klingons, what ever happened to the big war that was
>mentioned in the early STNG seasons?  Alternate universe?

	Hmmm...  Well, considering the rampant pacifism on TNG, "Errand of
Mercy" would be considered a huge war :)

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Another Crossover idea
Organization: Clark University
Date: 19 NOV 92 21:15:31 GMT

In a previous article, furiop@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu (Paul Joseph Furio) wrote:
>lfinkelstein@vax.cla (Loren Finkelstein) writes:
> 
>>How about this:
> 
>>A new crewmeber gets transferred to the Enterprise.  He is a bit pale, has 
>>wavey blond hair and is immensely strong.  He only works on night shifts, and 
>>the entire crew starts to get a bit anemic.  
> 
>	This would be neat but you could imagine the flames:
> 
>	Theres no night on the Enterprise.
>	Would it have to stay away from stars?
>	No one would notice a 7 foot coffin in his personal chambers?
>	Couldn't he just replicate blood?
> 
>Of course, vampirism has been tried with the Salt Creature thingy on TOS and this one vampire imitation on Buck Rodgers a while back.
> 

Not just any vampire.  A specific one.  Lestat.  Doesn't need a coffin.  And, 
probably could just stay awake constantly without the sun.  As for the 
replicators, there is a lot more to being a vampire than using blood for 
nourishment.  I reccommend you read Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicals.

				Loren

>	-Paul J. Furio
> 
>PS: Anyone ever read Ravenloft?
From: ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;RD48)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Klingon Homeworld / Fek'lhr
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:45:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

Just curious, but with STVI making lovey-dovey peace between the UFP
and the Klingons, what ever happened to the big war that was
mentioned in the early STNG seasons?  Alternate universe?

-- 
Gavin Helf
UC Berkeley Political Science
Berkeley-Stanford Program in Soviet Studies
ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu
From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: The conscience of the king.
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:15:23 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Last nights TOS episode shown on BBC2 was TCOTK, a *shakepearean* episode. 
Kirk goes to see an old friend on planet Q, this friend takes him to see
*macbeth*. Leighton (kirks friend) thinks that the star of the play (Karidian)
as actually "Kodos the executioner", a planetary governor who killed 4000 colonists
when the colony was in a famine. Leighton and Kirk are 2 of 9 people who actually
saw Kodos execute the colonists. Kirk is sceptical until Leighton is killed,
Kirk then discovers that only 2 of the 9 are still alive and the other 7 all died
when Karidian's players were in town. Kirk then offers to give the players a ride to
their next show and they offer to do a play for the crew. The other survivor of the
9 is enterprise crewman Lt Kevin Riley and an attempt is made on his life but McCoy
saves him. Kirk confronts Karidian/Kodos and the evidence looks pretty conclusive
that he's the executioner. The players then give their show, in the interval
Riley tries to kill Karidian but Kirk stops him. We then find out Lenore, Karidians
beautiful daughter (romantically linked with Kirk, suprise, suprise) killed the
7 to protect her father, she tries to shoot Kirk but gets her father instead.

A fairly good episode, lots of *over the top* acting. Lenore is played by Barbara
Anderson (Eve in Ironside). Uhura sings in this one, not too bad. 
Brad Ferguson's book "a flag full of stars" gives more on Kirk and Riley's
past and how they saw Kodos execute the colonists. I liked the book even thought
Ferguson hated what paramount did to it.

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
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From: rjtapp@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Riston Tapp)
Subject: Re: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:14:05 GMT

In article <1eouvuINNqpq@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> eggertc@ucs.orst.edu (Christopher Eggert) writes:
>
>Personally, I think the "fusions" theory sucks...you can't mate a cow with a
>horse, a human with a babboon and expect to get anything out of it.  Even
>Spock was only possible with EXTENSIVE genetic manipulation on
>Vulcan...something I doubt the Klingons could duplicate.

What about Worf's (now deceased) lady friend? She was part human.

Don't take this to mean that I agree with the fusion idea, however.
It should be obvious to everyone that there was simply a lack of money in
TOS, something that was rectified for the movies and TNG.

Riston

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