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From: mathers@sibelius.trl.oz.au (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: PREMIERS 1992
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:40:23 GMT

In article <10701788.3.716191399@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10701788@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (STEVEN MOKOTOW) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> LOCKETT WILL BREAK HUDDO'S 150 GOAL RECORD
|> 
|> 10 GOALS ON TONY CAMPBELL
|>  
|> 
|> DO THE WEAK AS PISS DOGGIES (PRETENDERS) BY 7 GOALS (IF GEELONG CAN BEAT 
|> THEM THEN ANY ONE CAN)
|> 

Im sorry, I really can't help myself with this one....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


go dogs!
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From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
Subject: Re: Winning >=3 consecutive finals
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:59:47 GMT

	The way I look at it is this. St.Kilda have proved that they can
win a finals match. Footscray, with the exception of Doug Hawkins five
years ago, are rotten. Saints a fair chance to win.
	West Coast - St.Kilda matches are determined solely by the venu.
Saints to beat West Coast.
	St.Kilda have a lot to play for against Geelong, after last years
final and in the practice match in Aukland St.Kilda has proved that the
difference between the two teams is luck, provided Damien Bourke is out,
which he is. Saints to win the Grand Final by two goals after Jamie
Shanahan gives Gary Ablett a bath.
	But then, I'm biased. |-)

LOCKETT, LOCKETT, LOCKETT. 	That is all.
-- 
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From: ugoni@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Carlton unlucky?
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:39:51 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <9224722.7309@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, ianr@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Ian Rowlands) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.095402.89972@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> ugoni@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>In article <37555@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I see the Blues missed the final six despite winning a very
>>> creditable 14 games this season.  When was the last time a team has
>>> has won so many games yet missed the finals?  How often has it
>>> happened in the history of league football?  
>>> 
>>> It's interesting to ponder the implications of a team with so many
>>> wins missing out in the final six.  What is the explanation?
>>> Perhaps Carlton's healthy amount of wins reflects a growing gap
>>> between the top and lower sides.  Or maybe instead it shows a
>>> greater parity developing between the highest teams.  After all, the
>>> Hawks and Saints finished with the same number of wins as Carlton
>>> (despite each losing to the Blues twice in the season), but
>>> qualified on percentage.  (The Blues' losses to teams like Fitzroy
>>> ans Richmond - and, I think North - cost them dearly).
>>
>>Errrrrr....I could be wrong Tom, but North beat all the teams that finished
>>below it, and Fitzroy and Carlton...can someone verify that.
> 
> 	You're wrong. North beat Richmond (twice), Sydney Swans (twice),
> Brisbane, Essendon and Fitzroy. So much for the team of the 90's! Ah well,
> maybe a new coach might do something with the talent at the club.
> 
> 				Ian
> 

Of course you're right Ian, I meant Essendon not Carlton, that was the claim I
was disputing in the first place...


Antony

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From: marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: AFL News Monday 14/9/1992 (Scores)
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:58:20 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

AFL News for Monday 14/9/1992.
------------------------------

 The semi-finals have been decided and, as you can tell by the lateness of this
report, the Saints lost on Saturday. On Sunday, the Cats were savaged by the
Eagles in a powerhouse second half performance. The scores were:

        Footscray 19.5 (119) defeated St.Kilda 14.6 (90)

        West Coast 20.13 (133) defeated Geelong 14.11 (95)

The Preliminary Final this weekend will now be:

Saturday, 19/9    Preliminary Final
                  -----------------
                  Geelong v. Footscray at the MCG
                  (winner goes on to play in Grand Final,
                     loser is eliminated.)

All the details will be in tomorrow's news. Sorry once again about the delay.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-  John Marinopoulos                                                      -
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-  Monash University                                   Fax:+613 565 4403  -
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-  Australia                                                              -
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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-                          (In 1993 that is!)                             -
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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: bye Hawks, Woods
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:08:39 GMT

	Thanks to St Kilda's fantastic win on the Saturday, the
	whole final's series opened up, especially for the winner
	of the Perth Final.  As always, the Saints v Collingwood
	game was a thriller, and thankfully the 14 time (1990)
	premiers lost.  
		Footscray looked suitably out of their depth
	against freescoring Geelong (after a bright start), and the
	Eagles overcame self-doubt to defeat the Hawks, choosing
	to miss the easy ones, and kick the impossible, which made
	great, if frustrating viewing...
		For the bozo who suggested that the Hawks were
	robbed by the umps...?  I'm sure Karl Langdon would beg
	to differ, and forget it anyway, the Eagles should have won
	by about 90 points, and probably would have if Hawthorn had
	come out with Nth Melbourne shirts on (for instance, nothing
	Particular Kangeroo fan.)  Like Geelong against Footscray,
	there was a level of talent difference between the two sides.
	(who is #21 for Geelong?, he looked brilliant).


	This week - two tough 'uns.

	Foot v St Kilda : I really don't know.  Throughout the year
		Footscray have played pretty well at times, and they
		should have learned from last week.  The Saints have
		been very inconsistent.  Away from the Western Oval
		always counts against the dogs.  My Tip, a draw
		with St Kilda winning by a pt in extra time.

	Geel v WCE : This is the big one.  The winner I think will
		be the premier.  The WCE are in MHO the best side in
		the comp, and their game on Sunday proved this, so 
		I'll tip them, by 8 points.  It's a big game for the
		Cats, and you may know how I feel about them in such,
		but every side who makes their opportunities deserves
		at least another go, and so good luck to them if they
		can overcome nerves in a tight game - not something
		they seem to do at all well.

	tom
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From: sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Statistics
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:13:52 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Sep7.171919.1@hfrd.dsto.gov.au> mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au writes:
>
>
>Hear, hear! Stats also don't distinguish between someone who dives into packs
>to get a hard-earned handball out (e.g. John Platten) and someone who hangs out
>wide on the wing for an easy kick (e.g. Simon Tregenza).

...or someone who dives on the ball for numerous free kicks for that
matter!!! ;-)

>David Mudge
>mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au

Go 'Pies in '93!!!,


Davin                                  e-mail: sloan@latcs1.lat.oz.au
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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: And then there were 4
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:34:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep7.093848.884@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins818e@mdw040.cc.monash.edu.au (Pratap Patnaikuni) writes:
>In article <92250.153755P85014@BARILVM.BITNET> P85014@BARILVM.BITNET (Anthony Waller) writes:
>
>>  Good luck to the boys from Moorabin, er Waverly - pretty good to
>                                           ^^^^^^^
>ARGH!!! It's WaverlEy!!!!  *sigh*



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!  It's MOORABBIN!




Tom Marvan.
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 15:37:55 IST
From: Anthony Waller <P85014@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: And then there were 4

  So, Hawthorn and Collingwood have been knocked out!  That means
that the eventual premiers will either be first-timers (Eagles) or
Footscray (last premiers 1962), Geelong ('63) or St.Kilda ('66).
Good to see some "fresh blood".

  Good luck to the boys from Moorabin, er Waverly - pretty good to
get to play finals games at your "home ground".  Where is the
Preliminary Final played these days?

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Israel                  CARNA SAINTS!!!!
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From: 10701788@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (STEVEN MOKOTOW)
Subject: Re: Winning >=3 consecutive finals
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:45:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.105947.10815@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston) writes:
>From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
>Subject: Re: Winning >=3 consecutive finals
>Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:59:47 GMT
>	The way I look at it is this. St.Kilda have proved that they can
>win a finals match. Footscray, with the exception of Doug Hawkins five
>years ago, are rotten. Saints a fair chance to win.
>	West Coast - St.Kilda matches are determined solely by the venu.
>Saints to beat West Coast.
>	St.Kilda have a lot to play for against Geelong, after last years
>final and in the practice match in Aukland St.Kilda has proved that the
>difference between the two teams is luck, provided Damien Bourke is out,
>which he is. Saints to win the Grand Final by two goals after Jamie
>Shanahan gives Gary Ablett a bath.
>	But then, I'm biased. |-)
>
>LOCKETT, LOCKETT, LOCKETT. 	That is all.
>-- 
>Conrad Leviston	 | Got to find a brightness in the soul,
>mongoose@yoyo.	 | Not look outside to find out where we are,
>cc.monash.edu.au | Otherwise you won't be satisfied, 
>Save the gherkin | 'Til you've made possession of the stars. (K.Wallinger)


saints rule

newport 1
spud  2
burkey 3
lockett 4 
macka 5
granty 6
nicky 7
devo 8
lazar 9
bingham 10 (i think)
morris 12
ralphy 13
craven 14
skeeter 15
fletch 16
timmy 17
bowser 18
clark 19                 here are just a few of the legends
malone 21
aldo 22                       i could think of off the top of my mind.
loewe 23
kain 26
greig 27
shanahan 31               Sorry if i left any out!!!!!!!
harvey 35
fode 36
rice 37
pekin 41

GO SAINTERS 1992 PREMIERS
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From: spreddan@glenn.uwaterloo.ca (Sean Reddan)
Subject: SCORES
Organization: Earth Observations Lab
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:15:25 GMT

Could some kind person provide scores from the weekend's games?

Ta.


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From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
Subject: Re: Ken Sheldons coaching
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:44:18 GMT

edb238acot@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au wrote:
: In article <10616330.11.715825210@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10616330@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (STUART ROBERTS) writes:
: > To all those people that said Ken Sheldon can't coach...
: > 	EAT MY SHORTS!
: > The man has taken what was basically a one player team, little better than a 
: > local reserves team, and turned it into a genuine flag contender in three 
: > years. Sure "The Doc'" got the ball rolling, but it was Sheldon who picked 
: > it up and ran with it, to form one of the most skilled teams in the 
: > competition, from players other clubs weren't interested in!
: > 
: > Yes, I am a StKilda supporter, and I still admit this!
: > 
: 
: > Stu.
: 
: 
:    -What coaching..havent szeen him do any so far...
:    Ash
: 
: 
	I have been a critic of Ken Sheldon's for some time, being
frustrated mainly by the fact that I sit in the outer and say that Ken
Sheldon should make a particular move, and having to wait far too long for
him to actually do it. The amount of time he takes to make moves is the
main reason (I believe) that St.Kilda is so brittle against Carlton.
	Last week, however, convinced me that Ken Sheldon can coach. He
moved players with a reasonable degree of speed, and most of his moves
came off.
	Also, last year against Geelong, the way he cut down Geelong's
running brigade is surely worthy of some note. Any coach that can get
Stephen Newport to function as an asset to the team can not be all that
bad (even though I'd much prefer to see Cummings given more of a go).
-- 
Conrad Leviston	 | Got to find a brightness in the soul,
mongoose@yoyo.	 | Not look outside to find out where we are,
cc.monash.edu.au | Otherwise you won't be satisfied, 
Save the gherkin | 'Til you've made possession of the stars. (K.Wallinger)
From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: EAGLES VS CAT
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:24:47 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.8.8

I really hate both sides but hope the Eagles thrash the Cats just to shut up 
all those pitiful Cat supporters who reckon this is going to be "Their Year"
Some Hope. .GO DOGGIES!!
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From: ins818e@mdw040.cc.monash.edu.au (Pratap Patnaikuni)
Subject: Re: EAGLES VS CAT
Organization: Monash University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:21:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.221025.29875@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> broaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BROWN ADRIAN) writes:

>>De poor widdle Victowians!!!  Awwwww!!!!  Lets all givem a hug when de 
>>Eagles win the flag.  (-;
>
>This is A VICTORIAN?

N.O.  NO!! I am NOT Victorian!!

>Get some pride about you, son! Whatever happened to home town/state loyalties?

I have my home town/state loyalties - THAT is why I go for the Eagles!!!

(Lets see if he can work that out (-; )

-Pratap

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From: sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Finals Predictions...
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:35:18 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <18hgpaINNa2v@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> gordon@ec.uwa.oz.au (Gordon Turner - division) writes:
>sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan) writes:
>
>>STUFF DELETED
>
>>Hawthorn looked tired also against the Eagles.
>
>	NO they where beaten by the better team on the day!!

But that's part of the reason they were the best team on the day - 
their greater fitness level and ability to keep their running game going 
in the second half.

>
>>Anyway, some probably meaningless predictions:
>
>>           The Eagles to go out in straight sets.
>
>	YEAH ??

YEAH!! - Well, probably....

>
>>           St.Kilda to beat Footscray and then West Coast.
>
>	Eagles would beat St Kilda by 10 goals in a final.

It depends on how well St.Kilda come up. If they performed consistently 
at the level they did against Collingwood, then it would be very close. 
Also remember the weather factor - remember the last Saints v Eagles game? 
The Eagles will struggle in the wet.

>
>>           Geelong to crap all over a tired St.Kilda in the GF!
>
>	Geelong are a possibility, I'm with the Eagles.

The Eagles haven't played any big matches at the MCG this year (Nth.Melb, 
Essendon, Richmond by 1 point) whereas Geelong (esp. Ablett) seem to fire 
when they play there.


Go 'Pies in '93!!!,

Davin                              e-mail: sloan@latcs1.lat.oz.au
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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Sydney Swans
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:01:43 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

 So, the swans talking about going out of business, eh?
 Well, I think Ross Oakley could fix that pretty quickly:  just announce "the
creation of a new force in AFL football, the Richmond Swans" (or Brisbane
Swans).  Worked for Footscray.
 (Assuming, of course, that he's still around.)
 I don't know if, given that we're talking about a team from NSW, they could
raise the money, but if they can't, they *shouldn't* have a team.
 BTW, could some kind of territorial rights be given to the Swans and/or Bears
on Tasmania/ACT/NT players?
From: sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Eagles vs Cats
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:40:13 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Sep9.105139.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> satkinso@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Geelong will crack under pressure this Sunday and will lose
>to the Eagles by 30 points.  Brownless will be held by Hepburn
>and McKenna will guard Ablett.

I'll agree with McKenna on Ablett - should be a great battle.
But Hepburn holding Brownless? I don't think so.


Davin                             e-mail: sloan@latcs1.lat.oz.au
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From: gdebelle@athena.mit.edu (Guy L Debelle)
Subject: SANFL results: PLEASE
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:34:56 GMT

Come on, 
Even one of you Vics could open the Age and get the results for
me.  There must be someone from SA on the net or have you all gone
into hibernation now the Crows have finished.

Guy
Cambridge MA (A very long drop punt from Prospect Oval)
From: gordon@ec.uwa.oz.au (Gordon Turner - division)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Finals Predictions...
Date: 8 Sep 1992 06:21:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan) writes:

>STUFF DELETED

>Hawthorn looked tired also against the Eagles.

	NO they where beaten by the better team on the day!!

>Anyway, some probably meaningless predictions:

>           The Eagles to go out in straight sets.

	YEAH ??

>           St.Kilda to beat Footscray and then West Coast.

	Eagles would beat St Kilda by 10 goals in a final.

>           Geelong to crap all over a tired St.Kilda in the GF!

	Geelong are a possibility, I'm with the Eagles.

	That should provoke more discussion/flaming etc etc.
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From: broaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BROWN ADRIAN)
Subject: Re: EAGLES VS CAT
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:10:25 GMT

ins818e@mdw041.cc.monash.edu.au (Pratap Patnaikuni) writes:

>De poor widdle Victowians!!!  Awwwww!!!!  Lets all givem a hug when de 
>Eagles win the flag.  (-;

>-Pratap

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This is A VICTORIAN?
Get some pride about you, son! Whatever happened to home town/state loyalties?

*smile*

The Brown Dog.
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From: ins141f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Adam Bradley)
Subject: Re: Running too far
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:16:14 GMT


ANDREW DOCKERY (10764380@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au) wrote:
			 ^^^^
		note your actual path is xxxxxxxx@eng.monash.edu.au


***Other stuff deleted because I dd in vi once too often :)***

:>of cases where players have "run their full distance" ( according to the
:>unbiased commentators ) and not being caught.

  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Probably came from the George Grilyasich (Appologies for the spelling here)
  school of impartial commentry.   :)


Regards

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From: u6404646@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: The Cats in the Stats
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:51:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne

Some stats that Geelong would do very well in:


	Number of players who run in a circle with the ball.

        Number of backmen who go for the "specky" rather than punching.

	Number of players who over run the ball when it is on the ground.

Geez, I went to the second semi last week expecting a good game. West
Coast are (this sticks in the throat a bit) a very skillful side, who
are at the monent making the absolute most of their opportunities. Geelong
on the other hand were very ordinary, and would have been beaten by 80
points if the Drink Coasters hadn't eased off. Can't see them (or Footscray)
beating the Eagles. Damn.

	Andrew Davies, a disgruntled Pie fan.