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In rec.music.synth, dhardma@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Dave Hardman) writes:

> I have an Ensoniq SD-1 and am considering purchasing an Alesis D4.  I have
> some questions.
> 
> 1.  Has anybody had any experience (good/bad) with using the SD-1 sequencer to
> drive an external sound module such as the D4?
> 

Well, I've got this exact setup (SD-1/32 & D4).

> 2.  Specifically, I want to "record" my drum parts by playing them on the pads
> connected to the D4 and have the SD-1 sequencer play them back along with
> other stuff that I have sequenced on my SD-1.  It seems like this should be
> no problem, but all I've ever used MIDI for is to send patch changes to
> an effects unit.  Can I do what I want to?

Exactly the way I use it. I don't remember having to do anything special
to make it work. (Midi-out to Midi-in) X 2, set up a Midi track on the
channel the D4 is set to, and hit record. In fact, I think my drummer
figured it out on his own (without any manuals too).
  
> Thanks
> 
> Dave
> dhardman@pcocd2.intel.com

Regards,

Dave          (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re:      Re: Rackmount sampler recommendations
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:25:34 GMT

"steep learning curve = bitch to program" in my book ! :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: blancha@seq.uncwil.edu (Chris Blanchard)
Subject: Wanted: Advice on notation software for pc
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:08:33 GMT


I need some advice on which notation software is best for a PC, pererably a
Windows package. I posted last week concerning Midi Soft Studio for Windows 
with no responce and am operating under the impression that this means stay
away from it. So let me know what is the best value and try to keep it below 
$500. Please reply via email as this groups expires daily here at school
and I dont want to misss something. Thanks.
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From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Parting with old synths
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:55:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <NICK.92Sep1135005@vaila.ed.ac.uk>, nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes...
>My general approach (when possible) is to retire keyboards in favour of
>rackmounts. Hell, you never need to sell rackmounts; they occupy zero(*)
>space after all, and the trade value is so low there's no point shifting
>them out.
> 
>Nick.
> 
>(*) Well, almost zero.

Gee, I'll have to move to the UK, what with favorable laws (of nature) like
that. I've got a couple of 6-space rackmounts....   The Korg MR-16 and the
Simmons SDS-9 are both 6 spaces high by about 2 inches deep.  Makes for nice
storage space in the rack behind them.  If I could figure out how to use it.

I only buy rackmounts in the first place.  I don't want to deal with a typical
synth's deficiencies as a controller, my controllers have enough of those
already, and that's their only excuse for existance.

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From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Re: Parting with old synths
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:08:18 GMT

In <1992Sep1.024200.9487@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> nsw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Neil Weinstock) writes:

>How do you part with an old synth?


>So what do folks out there do who turn over a lot of instruments all the
>time?  Do you redo old sequences or just retire them?  Do you worry about
>losing certain staple sounds?  Or just keep all your old instrumnets, period?
>(I know people like that ;-)

>Curious,



SAmple, sample, sample........buy buy buy.........sell sell
sell........sample sample sample......sometimes I wonder if I should just
rent good keyboards, and then just sample the sounds I create (and become
'dependant' on). Ofcourse, do any of you have a minimoog/matrix 12/prophet
VS/microwave to rent to me??!?!?!?!


R. Martin
Noise.
From: rick@crowbar.aux.apple.com (Rick Auricchio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Musician's Friend (was Mail Order Prices)
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa

[]

> Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
> 1. Musician's Friend 800-776-5173
> These guys are indeed friendly. They have a catalog with a rather large
> selection of keyboardists, guitar and bass players. Decent prices.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Any chance they've got any good drummers?  I'm already a bass player.

  Couldn't resist.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jriitala@polaris.utu.fi (Jari Riitala)
Subject: Re: Alesis D4: Help me !!
Reply-To: jriitala@polaris.utu.fi
Organization: University of Turku
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 06:38:52 GMT

kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET (Kyle Jones) writes:

>broe@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Frank Breier) writes:
> > I bought an Alesis D4 three days ago, and now I've got my first problem.
> > If I let play it via Midi, the drums cut themselves off. The HiHat seems to
> > be ok, but the bassdrum jumps from one side to the other, and the snare
> > cannot be heard.

>The first D4 I bought had similar problems although not as bad as
>your description.  Take/send it back to the dealer and get another
>one.  It's not supposed to behave that way.

This might be something else but you might want to check it out...

I had some weird problems with my D4 changing its parameters' values on the fly
while playing a sequence. After almost making a fool of myself at the local 
music store (I'm glad there was nobody around who knew anything about Midi 
stuff at the time.. includeing the salesmen(!)) I suddenly realized that the
expression pedal connected to the D70 (that I use as the master keyboard) was
in such a position that the D70 wasn't quite sure of it's value so it kept
sending two alternating consecutive values for what ever controller it was 
assigned to. The trick was of course that I had Midi thru on in the sequencer
and the D4 can change its parameters' values according to controllers being
fed to it.. and so it did! (Check the manual for details of the controller
numbers and appropriate parameters.. I think the one I was using changed the 
parameter that was currently on the D4's screen)
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From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Re: Synth trade thought .....
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:37:08 GMT

five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.) writes:
: I'm toying with the idea (toying with.  NOTHING definately decided yet) 
: of putting my Ensoniq ESQ-1 up for Trade.
: I'm looking for a Modular synth, (or in the case of Korg synths - Modular 
  
: (1) Working Arp 2600
Good idea, I'd like to have one myself ..

: (2)    "   Korg Modular Synths + Sequencer
Korg made real modular synths?? I just know the MS series (10, 20, 50) and
the polyphonic PS series (3100, 3200, 3300)

: (1)    "   Roland System 100M WITH Sequencer module
: (0)  (IE: No trade for) PAIA Gear (i have lots)
How can I get a catalogue from them?? How's your experience?  Quality??

: (?) Some Serge Modules (dependant on modules)
They are expensive ... are they such good?

: (?)   "  Aries Modules ( " " ")
: (?) Some Polyfusion Modules (" " ")
Are they good? Don't know them! Good prices??
: (1) Working Arp Odyssey + (1) Working String Machine of any make
: (1) Roland MC8 Microcomposer (working)
Can't remember wether this is an modular synth .. ;-)

: (1) Working Roland Jupiter 6
: (1) Working Roland Jupiter 8 (I would consider adding cash to this offer)
Good stuff man .. good stuff!!!
A friend of mine programmed a Hitchcock like female scream with this beasty,
placed in the right room (reverb) you'd sample this for your filmlibrary!

: (1) Working Memory Moog
Only as advanced with Linntronic (sp?) upgrade .. too unstable usually ...
:  
: Any other ideas?  I will also include a hard shell travelling case.  
: (It's not a Flight case)

Why not considering some Moog modules?? The fixed filter bank is ingenious!!
Look at the ads in the back of KEYBOARD mag.

have fun,
/m

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From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MAILINGLIST: DEVO-L for the spud boys
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:05:28 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Aug30.180437.8024@dutrun2.tudelft.nl> Hunter Goatley <goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET> writes:

>I just created a DEVO mailing list, DEVO-L@WKUVX1.BITNET.  To
>subscribe, send the following command in the body of a mail message to
>LISTSERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

can you get it gatewayed to USENET as bit.listserv.devo-l ???

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From: nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon NUNIS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: mail server for files
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:47:58 GMT
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server

Hi everyone.

I was listening all this things about ftp sites having tons of demo files,
public domain sequencers/librarians/editors and many other goodies but I
cannot get them because I do not have ftp access to all these machines.

So, is there a mail server somewhere that has all these stuff archived
so I can get them mailed to me?  I am looking for a patch editor for
my U20 and would really like one that runs on dos (not windows) because
I only have a humble 286.

I am also looking for something to do simple notation.  So can someone
please help me out here and maybe send me a copy (or direct me to a mail
server with a copy of these stuff).

Thanks in anticipation.

simon ;)

email:  nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: gilstrap@sbctri.sbc.com (Brian R. Gilstrap)
Subject: Tell me about keyboard controllers
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:44:56 GMT

The subject says most of it.  I'm thinking about taking the big plunge (buying
lots of stuff) and one of the equipment configuration options would involve
a keyboard master controller.

Please tell me about keyboard master controllers.  What features do you find
important & what features aren't important?  How much does it list for?  Does
it have polyphonic aftertouch and should I care?  How is the feel in comparison
to a real piano?  How many zones does it support?  What other neat features
does it have?

My current thoughts are: I need a good synth and a good keyboard controller to
drive it.  I like the feel of the Ensoniq SD-1's keyboard but not that of the
K2000.  However, I might be willing to buy a K2000 and keyboard controller and
end up with an open-ended synth *and* a good keyboard controller (if I can 
figure out some way to make this fit my pocketbook....sigh).  So, it seems 
that a controller with multiple zones and a control dial or two would be
good but other features don't seem necessary or desirable (e.g. sequencer). I
use Vision and am quite happy with it and will be getting a Midi Timepiece II
or Studio-4 so I don't need any of those features (was I dreaming when I
thought someone said some controllers try to do MIDI environment management
too?).

Of course, I'm new to this, so please correct whatever glaring errors/
misconceptions there are in the above.

Thanks!
Brian Gilstrap
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Why I like the Mac for Music
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:56:52 GMT
	<D88-JWA.92Sep3105305@dront.nada.kth.se>
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se's message of 3 Sep 92 09:53:05 GMT

In article <D88-JWA.92Sep3105305@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:

   However, to tie in to MIDI; I'm waiting for QuickTime to
   support MIDI as track data. It's supposed to come! Way
   cool!

Pah, given Apple's record with MIDI Manager (you know, that important system
component to boost the power of your Macintosh for MIDI, and which will be
an integral part of the forthcoming System 7) I doubt it.

I don't have any use for QuickTime anyway. I don't work with pictures. I
work with dancers.

Nick.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: synth lists
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:45:50 GMT

In article <714321341.420000.D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU> D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes:
>I've heard of an Ensoniq EPS list mentioned here several times,
>but without an address. I've also heard that there's a list for
>Korg T owners. I'm looking for a list for M1 owners. Does someone
>have a list of these specialized synth mailing lists? 
>If you know of any, can you please post their addresses here?
>Everyone will benefit. Why keep these lists secret?
> 
>   Pax,
>
>    Dana

I second this!!!!!!!!
noah
From: jps@hatch.socal.com (J. P. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: misc ...
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:58:31 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.synth, rec.music.makers
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA

greetings,

several things to ask ...

i)   i have an opportunity to pick up an old ARP Odessey for a song.
     can some "old hands" enlighten me as to what kind of tricks this
     axe can perform?

ii)  still trying to come up with some way for my TR808 to understand
     and speak midi.  it doesn't have a CV input or output :-( so the
     PAIA device won't do it.  am i left to my own devices on this one?

iii) of the PC-based hard disk recording systems out there currently,
     which one's come highly recommended.  and related, how is the
     GEM gui ?

thanks,

james
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gary Edwin Western)
Subject: --SURVEY--
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:40:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers rec.music.synth
Subject: --SURVEY--

Survey-
	I am posting this survey here to gather information from as large a baseof working musicians as possible.  If you currently play or work for a band,    please take a couple minutes to fill out this survey.  Thank you.

Do you use MIDI in live performance?
	For what applications?

Do you use a personal computer in live performance?
	For what applications?
	Brand and Model?

How many lights do you use? 
	Brand and Model?

Would a computer controlled light show benefit your performance?

What would you consider a "fair" price for a computer interface for controlling your current light configuration?

Please mail responses to gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu.  If you would like more info
on this survey and its purposes, contact:
	Gary E Western			gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu
	319 353 1702
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Swap K4 sounds
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:16:57 GMT

I have some K4R sounds that I could trade.


shiv@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen)
Subject: Re: Proteus1 Orchestral Expander
Originator: news@pms001
Organization: Scientific Research Lab, Ford Motor Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:01:44 GMT


Well, I just bought an EMU Proteus MPS, which has the board already installed,
giving 100 new ROM patches and a slew of samples.  I'm still trying to figure
out how the Proteus I, Proteus II, and Proteus MPS relate to one another; I'm
just using the Proteus II/XR (100 patches per ROM/RAM/CARD) in my librarian
software (Galaxy) which works well but not perfectly.  I'm hoping Galaxy will
eventually come out with a keyboard description for it.

As to the sounds..... very nice. A good selection of string sounds, including
many versions of pizzacato, includeing bowed pizz.  There is little or no
duplication of the other ROM banks.  The focus is on winds and strings.  Still
no really good flute, IMHO.  The Orchestral expander comes with solo cello,
viola, and violin, which all sound really clean, although I still havent figured
out how to do a nice slurred passage at higher volumes, since a large key velocity on these voices causes a bowed attack (you can almost hear the bow!).
In addition to the solo instruments, they've created a number of string pads for various uses, including one very nice "Concerto" patch which I use for all my
string parts in sample orchestrations (it has a many-player sound which works well to give an orchestral, full sound).

The oboe, bassoon, contrabassoon, and clarinet are all very good.  My friend
with his Korg M1 was immediately jealous; he had to contrive a clarinet from
scratch.  There's even a solo oboe sans vibrato that can be used for more complex expression, though the regular oboe is really sweet.

There's also a little orchestral percussion thrown in, tho I'm not enamored with the Timpani... it sounds like a waveform rather than a true sampled sound.

I found I could drum up a pretty decent large orchestra by grouping the patches
in the orchestral expander with the patches from the original ROMs/RAMs using a preset maps.

If you have any specific questions, throw em my way and I'd be happy to share
what I can with you.  Maybe you can tell me where this MPS beast fits in?
Did you mention that the Proteus II is really just a soundbox, not a keyboard?

steve


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From: ISB202CLOW@redgum.qut.edu.au (The Bard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For all budding Gurus :
Date: 28 Aug 1992 22:27:28 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Yo dudes, this post is for programmers/midi heads, but I really didn't know
how to summarise it in the subject, ..... but anyway, here goes:

I've heard mention of a "Fadermaster".  I think John 3's got one for his K2000.
What I gathered, was that it had numerous sliders (6 ?) which he could use when
programming. (please correct me if I'm wrong John).

Does anyone else know about toys like this that make the interface between synth
and human better for both programming, and real-time-control?  I was thinking of
digital synths here (not that I dislike analog or anything, but just to help me
and others in the use of digital synths), so there's no need for analog
evangilising.  :-)


Brad.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:50:00 EDT
From:         WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject:      Re: FB01 vs. TX81Z
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>JJ Ladasky writes:
        If I remember correctly, the FB01 DAC (I think there's only one,
multiplexed to the two channels) is only 10 bits across.  The FB01 has a
pretty grainy sound.  The TX81Z has 12-bit digital-to-analog conversion -
same as the original DX7.
 >
>

The FB01 has a terrible noise floor, too. Tones seem to form themselves
out of static hiss. Not recommended for recording.

Bill Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jochenw@akela.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jochen Wolters)
Subject: Video capabilities to come (was: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!)
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  3 Sep 92 11:28:25 GMT

clint@artech.UUCP (Clinton Keith) writes:


>> To be quite honest, this is lousy video. The lowest resolution PC that I
>> use is 800x600x256, and normally I use 1024x768x256.

>It's not "lousy". [...] most (if not all) applications and games will run at
>or below this level.

  That's not quite the point, Clinton: in the original reaction it was said
that the 640x480x8b resolution was "lousy" for GUIs. And I think that this is
quite right. Using an LC II with the Apple 13" RGB, I'd be glad to have some
more space on my "desktop". The size of the application has nothing to do with
it since this is independant from the screen resolution. How many applications
you can put on the screen at once, that's what counts. Well, maybe you won't
use a lot of apps at the same time, but just think of high-end CAD systems
with all those cute little status windows. You'll be celebrating each and every
extra pixel of the higher resolution! :-)


>Until mass storage and large hi-res color monitors become ALOT cheaper,
>not very many general users are going to want 1024x768x256.

  Thinking of stand alone apps that do not depend on GUIs like the Finder,
WINDOZE etc., you're perfectly right. But when it comes to video resolution
when using a capable GUI, mass storage is not the problem, since pictures
for instance, won't become bigger, but you would be able to put more of
them on the screen at a time. So, VRAM may be of importance, but mass
storage won't. Comments?


  Jochen.
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