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From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: !!! The WAVE Flyer !!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:32:30 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.synth

	Two words:  HOT DAMN!

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From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Wanted: Mac (Performer, esp) Copy Protection Defeat Information
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:57:00 GMT


After investing about $350 for Performer, and after first hand experiencing
the Mac interface, I have decided that it is in my best interest to acquire
either a broken copy of Performer, or a system which will enable me to
un-copy protect my Performer disks.  I would figure that this kind of
'protection' is worth at least a couple hundred dollars to me.  I would also
guess that others would also pay for such 'protection'.  Clearly, a market
must exist for Mac copy-protection breaking software which works.  Also,
to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing illegal about removing copy
protection from software which was legally acquired.  I mean, if people can
sell Cable TV descramblers in the ad pages of Video magazine using the
disclaimer that they will sell only to people who have actually paid for the
cable services, why shouldn't a seperate market be spawned by companies like
MOTU who insist on provising 'inconvenient' software to their users.  Clearly,
the only way to defeat the absurd practice of incorporating software protection
is to render it totally useless to the companies who use it.  In the meantime
it seems like a good way to make a few bucks exploiting the lack of insight
of the software companies who make use of it.  Not to digress, but the main
reason to look forward to Windows/PC applications is that nobody in their
right minds would ever try to market a copy protected software product to
the PC marketplace.

John
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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: How Engineers make music
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:47:37 GMT
	<1992Apr9.142621.26608@cas.org>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se

@cas.org> lrm28@cas.org writes:

   A good example of music made by engineers would be the first two Boston
   albums.  The arrangements and solo music are...meticulous.  Every note
   is in its place.  Guitarist Tom Scholz formed SRD to manufacture the
   Rockman line of equipment.  Both albums are excellent!  Yet, there is
   a certain sterility in his tone and content; maybe it's too precise.

Hey, if you want slick, perfect, and engineered, you need
to go to Germany. Modern Talking. I'll say no more...

-- 
h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte, the Diplomat - NOT!
From: cox.s@applelink.apple.com (Steve Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Tascam MSR-16 16-Track Recorder
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:30:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple

Selling a Tascam MSR-16 1/2" recorder with very low hours and in mint
condition. Just don't use it enough to justify keeping it. Has dbx I noise 
reduction and will lock to SMPTE. Also has gapless/seamless punch in and sounds
great. I have a demo CD which I made from the multitrack masters on this machine.

New $7500

Asking $4700.

Would consider a trade for comparable pro audio equipment e.g. mics, Effects.
Would also consider a Waverunner Jet Ski.

email or call 408 265-9043 after 7:00 pm Pacific time.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ejm@NOC.Vitalink.COM (Erik Murrey)
Subject: Re: Who synth usage on Who's Next
Organization: Vitalink Communications Corporation, US
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:36:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.105303.7494@hemlock.cray.com>, dpm@cray.com (Donald P. Maghrak) writes:
|> In article <9204091358.AA13015@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
|> >
|> >If I remember correctly, the thing that everybody thinks is a synth in Won't
|> >Get Fooled Again is actually an organ being run through a VCS3's.  Most of
|>
|> Thanks for the clarification John.  I thought that was the VCS3 on 
|> Won't Get Fooled Again (albeit using an organ).  Actually that keybaord part
|> sounds sequenced.  What organ was used (if it was indeed sequenced) that
|> had the necessary cv triggers?

Probably what I used a bunch of years ago in a rock-n-roll band.  An organ
through my Pro-1's audio input.  I used the LFO to modulate the filter,
but I played the "sequence" live.  I suspect that the VCS3 had the ability
to retrigger the ADSR on the EG with one LFO and modulate the filter with
another LFO. This would give the "sequence" sounding effect.

Come to think of it, I probably could have used the second VCO as another  LFO
on my pro-1.  Its too bad  my Pro-1 didn't survive a road trip from PA 
to CA a few years ago...  Quite a handy piece.

Just my $0.0x...

... Erik
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Vitalink Communications NOC
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:51:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: Gear Lust

>From:         jalkio@CC.HELSINKI.FI

>Since I don't basically have any job now (=no income), I would possibly
>have to sell almost ALL my current stuff to get a K2000 if I wanted it.
>And the bad thing is, it seems I DO want it really bad. But do I NEED
>it? Well, to keep my mental health, kind of.

I gave up on "NEED" as a criterion long ago.  Does wonders for the
mental health. 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
From: pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu (Patrick Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Problems!!!!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:27:29 GMT

metlay writes
> >>	Je ne sais pas; mais, peut-etre si vous posez le question en anglais,
> >>il y sera plus de personnes qui peuvent repondre.
> >Nishin: Nihongo ga wakaru hito wa, hitori de mo kono guruup wo yonde iru hito
> >iru kai?
> 
> Izvinityeh, pozhaluista, no ya dumayu shto etot razgovor ochen' glupui'!
> U nas nyet luchyie temui, kak MIDI ili kotorii K2000 lyche chem Alesis S5?

Oooo... bemahmma fluk moogie flabber nerble fremlap vimmdo "LXP-5" seegin
waggy furplesmurch mibbur ig crumple bummy "Quadraverb" ... horf, horf, horf.

> Kazhetsya, shto vo vsyekh stranakh, nasha samaya ogromnaya problema, eto,
> kak vy skazhitye, 'BANDWIDTH'?

Bluggedy thorpuplop omi whacka flibbilorck.  Grumbucky wuggle, glumpie poo.

> Bozhe moi. Shto blizhaishchi? Yebraiskii?
> |->

Harg!  Glub Blug dip woot-boof wammie!

-Patrick
 pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Macintosh Powerbook & MIDI
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:17:50 GMT
	<NICK.92Apr9173614@vaila.ed.ac.uk>
	<D88-JWA.92Apr12113631@hemul.nada.kth.se>
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se's message of 12 Apr 92 10:36:31 GMT

In article <D88-JWA.92Apr12113631@hemul.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:

   I've heard people say that running the MIDI manager makes the
   problem go away...

It doesn't. I can prove it.

Nick.
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From: smithj@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:49:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Who synth usage on Who's Next
Organization: no risk to you!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

dpm@cray.com (Donald P. Maghrak)  writes:
>I remember doing playing this part on an ARP OMNI. (the first OMNI with that
>stupid [IMHO] keyboard triggering method -- hold a chord, play a bass line,
>listen to the chord retrigger with each note in the bass line -- yuch)

Incorrigable hardware hack that I was back then, I played "Won't Get Fooled
Again" on my Vox Jaguar organ, played through a Fender Super Reverb Amp.  I
had rigged up a microswitch on an old cheapo reel-to-reel tape recorder, in
such a way that I could use a chopped-up tape reel as a cam.  I cut up the
reel so that there were two interruptions (at 50% duty cycle) per revolution,
and placed the microswitch in series with the speakers of the amp.  When
the song came up in our set, I turned on the tape deck.  Sounded pretty
close to me...

                    Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com
                 Going Up, Going Down, Going Up And Down.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tuan@sequent.com (Tuan Nguyen)
Subject: Yamaha TX7, cassette cable ??? 
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:24:25 GMT

I try to load sound from a cassette to my TX7 but I don't
have the cable.  Does anyone know the pin configuration
for this cable? or where can I order it? 

thanks for your help.

tuan.

P.S. The local music store here don't cary it.
From: webster.Henr801c@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: opinions on Fostex deal? (R8 + 812 + MTC-1 for $2979)
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:27:59 GMT


I've been looking for a good way to get audio into my studio.  This past
weekend my dealer at Brighton Sound (rochester, NY) told me about Fostex's
current "special deal":

  An R8 8-track open-reel tape deck
  An 812 12x8x2 console
  An MTC-1 MIDI-to-SMPTE converter

  all for $2979

This is the stuff they have been advertising in KEYBOARD lately (along with
Atari).  Basically, the R8/MTC-1 combination lets you run your system from your
sequencer, and the tape deck follows along (supports MMC).  The console is a
class above the Alesis/Mackie class -- it has switchable tape inputs for
mixdown (no patching necessary), 3-band EQ (2 are parametric), 8 busses (one
for each track), etc.

Anyway, the deal is quite good (normal list for the R8 alone is $2400 or
something -- I think normal street price for the whole thing would be upper
$3000's), and Fostex is offering it until end of April or middle of May or so.

Anybody have comments on the above? on Fostex in general? It sounds like a good
deal to me for someone who wants to add audio... yes?

thanks,

marc webster
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From: maxc0013@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.misc
Subject: WANTED: Alesis 1622 mixer...
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:31:13 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services


Looking for a used Alesis 1622 mixer or similar for
home studio...

BTW, I'm a student looking for _student_ prices...thanks.


Please respond via Email, or call 
Steve at (619) 436-7670
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cwb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Charles Binko)
Subject: Sound Blaster .voc Files Conversion
Reply-To: cwb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Charles Binko)
Organization: University of Florida, Electrical Engineerin
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:42:41 GMT

I recently got a Sound Blaster Pro for my 486-33 machine.  I have gotten some excellent samples and would like to use them in Voyetra's SPpro sequencer,   However, the sequencer only accepts .mid files as input, not .voc files which is how SBPro saves my samples.

I know that SBPro has been thouroughly covered recently, but I do have some stupid questions to ask.

1) Is there any was to convert .voc files to .mid or .sng files so that they may be run using SPProPlus?

2) Is there any way to sample sounds directly into .mid files using the SBPro

3) In gereal what would be the easiest way to sequence a (looped) sample (i.e a bassline) into a midi sequencer output using SBPro?

Thanks for your help,
Charles Binko
cwb@reef.cis.ufl.edu
EMAIL APPRECIATED



Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:7679 rec.music.makers:5516
From: muller@alliant.com (Jim Muller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Usenet Tape depression sets in.
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:12:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: alliant.1992Apr8.231201.7302
Organization: Alliant Computer Systems Corp.

In <1992Apr8.164247.25409@engage.pko.dec.com> sherman@induce.enet.dec.com
   (My name is...) writes:
>In <1992Apr8.133056.6797@icd.ab.com>, jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker) writes...
>>Well, engineers have money and equipment. Talent ? Who knows ? I used to 

>I think folks have become accustomed to blaming bad-sounding music on poor
>equipment.  Though this is true to a point, beyond some level it really
>doesn't matter what equipment you have...

This is all true, but I don't think this is quite what JAZ was talking about.
Consider the budding music student (like the kid down the block from me) who
buys a nifty guitar and amp and then wails away in dad's garage making some
absolutely AWESOME sounds, I mean, like really, really *AWESOME*!  Problem is
it isn't music (yet).  It's like a bunch of great-sounding words spoken alone
rather than in sentences.  Eventually (it is to be hoped) he will learn to
make good sentences, and then learn what it means for those sentences to have
great content rather than just obey the rules of grammar.  (A verb, senator!
We've got to have a verb!)  What JAZ was saying is that it is easier to make
decent sounds, even to the extent of having them obey the musical equivalent
of syntax, than it is to produce good content.  If one is a good musician,
then the music's emotional, artistic, or even intellectual (for you jazz
guys :-) content will be good even if the equipment is lacking.  On the
other hand, one can be so obsessed with equipment, and even technique, that
the sounds being produced are terrific but there is little musical content.
Like poetry with perfect rhyme and meter, but no imagery.  (Some kinds of
music sound like that to me too.  But then I play an acoustic guitar, so I'm
happy to do without digital processing, modern technology, blah blah blah.)
-- 
Jim Muller
muller@alliant.com
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From: dpm@cray.com (Donald P. Maghrak)
Subject: Re: Seeking weird analog synth
Summary: VCS 3, The Who
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:05:01 CDT

In article <41050099@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:
>There was an article on the VCS 3 about a year ago in Keyboard, in the
>"Vintage synths" section.  BTW, it was known as the Putney in the US,
>but as the EMS everywhere else.  We had one in the Electronic Misic
>department in Illinois, and the (now-forgotten?) group Curved Air
>used one in their first two albums.  I missed the shot of Roger Waters
>using one in the Dark Side of the Moon movie, but the sound is
>about right.
>
Didn't Pete Towensend (sp?) of the Who use a VCS 3 on the Who's Next album?
He was also into those old analog sequencers.  I think he used an analog 
sequencer with a VCS 3 on Won't Get Fooled Again and Baba O'Reilly, and 
the VCS 3 on Bargain.  
-feel free to correct info and spelling.

-Don

.standard disclaimers apply
From: john@attcan.UUCP (John Benfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: TRADE: 386/25 for Sampling keyboard
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: john@attcan.UUCP (John Benfield)
Organization: AT&T Canada Inc., Toronto

I've got a 25MHz '386 that's basically gathering dust (or soon to 
become the basement node on my household network if nobody takes
me up on this trade) If you've got a sampling keyboard that's in 
a similar situation and you'ld like to swap, let me know. I'ld
prefer something along the lines of an Ensoniq EPS if possible.
(or better, of course)

The basic unit is as follows:

	Intel System 302 Motherboard (80386-25)
	8MB On-board memory (SIMMS...The populated amount is flexible
			     if you don't need the full 8MB)
	80387-25 Math coprocessor
	Tower case (5 half-height 5.25 bays accessible from the front
		    1 full-height 5.25 bay on an internal rail)
	5.25 Floppy
	3.5 Floppy
	ESDI HD/Floppy controller (1:1 interleave)
	ATI VGA-Wonder16 video card

I have various monitors and drives that can round it out
depending on the trade.

If you're interested, drop me an email or call and leave
a message.

(PS. If you can provide a Canadian mailing address to send it to, I'll
 take that into account and try to cut you a better deal)

John Benfield
..uunet!attcan!john

(416) 756-5221


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Subject: TRADE: 386/25 for Sampling keyboard
Reply-To: john@attcan.UUCP (John Benfield)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: AT&T Canada Inc., Toronto
Keywords: 

I've got a 25MHz '386 that's basically gathering dust (or soon to 
become the basement node on my household network if nobody takes
me up on this trade) If you've got a sampling keyboard that's in 
a similar situation and you'ld like to swap, let me know. I'ld
prefer something along the lines of an Ensoniq EPS if possible.
(or better, of course)

The basic unit is as follows:

	Intel System 302 Motherboard (80386-25)
	8MB On-board memory (SIMMS...The populated amount is flexible
			     if you don't need the full 8MB)
	80387-25 Math coprocessor
	Tower case (5 half-height 5.25 bays accessible from the front
		    1 full-height 5.25 bay on an internal rail)
	5.25 Floppy
	3.5 Floppy
	ESDI HD/Floppy controller (1:1 interleave)
	ATI VGA-Wonder16 video card

I have various monitors and drives that can round it out
depending on the trade.

If you're interested, drop me an email or call and leave
a message.

(PS. If you can provide a Canadian mailing address to send it to, I'll
 take that into account and try to cut you a better deal)

John Benfield
..uunet!attcan!john

(416) 756-5221
From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Raise yours hands if ...
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:48:05 GMT

In article <JHZ8iB6w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (skinny puppy) writes:
>Everybody that wants a WAVE, raise your hand.       w
>                                                    |
>                                                   /

"My God, what was that huge swooshing sound??"
"That was the sound of 20 million synth players simultaneously raising their
 arms."

;->

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| dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu      |  Her acid reign..."        Tragedy >For You< |
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From: smithj@hpsadlu.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:20:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Analogs
Organization: no risk to you!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

tmm@world.std.com (Tom M Moravansky)  writes:
>  Posting for a friend:  He's not a store, just an enterprising guy
>who happens to like analog and older ana/dig machines.  Don't flame me
>on the prices, give him a call and negotiate.
>
>For Sale:
>---------
>MemoryMoog+       $900
>MiniMoog          $600
>Prophet 5  3.3    $900
>  "         3.2   $800
>  "        3.1    $600

Gee, I don't think I'LL flame you on THOSE prices!!!  Wow...
From: pixel@cbnewse.cb.att.com (william.j.sequeira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: DidINukeMy Performer in Install?
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:11:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <9204131541.AA02226@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>
>Welcome to the sad world of Mac-ownership.  Actually, MOTU appears to have
>a reasonable replacement policy for such situations if you, indeed, did
>nuke your hard disk install.  Also, if you send in the warranty card they
>send you a back up disk with another install.  So, all is not lost.

Having used both systems, PC and Macs, I find that there is sadness when
you do not take the time and patience to understand the philosphies behind
the systems.

>Since you brought this up, a similar thing happened to me the other night.
>[...] opened wasn't large enough to show the Performer icon. Now, even Window's
>isn't this stupid so as to not default the window size to one which is
>capable of showing the contents of the directory.  This must be another
>example of Mac-idiocy, I mean, to have to resize a window to see the
>effects of adding a progrm to a folder.

Mac-idiocicy or just lack of being used to a new system?  I don't know. I
run into problems with the system now and then, but so did I when I
developed x86 boxes running DOS/UNIX.  Just because the Mac's user interface 
does not conform to your PC background doesn't make it better or worse. Take for
instance the two best Mac sequencers: Vision and Performer.  Some people
swear by Performer while others love Vision, while hating the counterpart
because of a user interface.  The issue is appeal to the way people work.
You may very well find that the Mac does not suit your needs, but that is
no reason to thrash it because it doesn't behave like a PC.  As Dan Barrett very
well pointed out, jumping onto a new platform can be traumatic.  And Nick
said it well when he stated that he failed to see the problem.  I do too.
The synergy of a system at work is not something you understand nor measure
on paper in one night.

Want some advice?  Spend your energy understanding the system instead of
wasting time bashing it.  After a few weeks if you still dislike it, buy 
yourself a 586.  Simple.  

>Maybe its just that I think about computers a little differently than the
>general Mac-user.  This is scarry is bizarre sort of way.

I'd say.


William

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