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From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: David Palmer
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:12:41 GMT

In article <dkm2.715932280@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
|> 
|> Let's see what all the rsfc folks think about Alabama's David Palmer, who
|> was lucky enough to get off by being treated as a minor for his *first*
|> DUI, that got another DUI (that makes two in three months).
|> 
|> Regardless of whom he plays for, the kid obviously needs help bad, most 
|> folks in Mississippi would be sittin in jail for a while on their second
|> offense that quickly.

  Presently, Palmer is on indefinite supension which more than likely means he is
out for the season.  It is likely he will be redshirted.  David is still
practicing with the team and living in the dorm and is being counseled.  Coach
Stallings is dealing with this situation in a professional manner and I applaud
him for that.  
  I believe kicking David off the team would not be the right thing to do.  David
is a very talented athelete and it's this talent which can get him out of the
housing projects and into a better life.  It's obvious he has problems and by him
staying on the team in school, he is at a place where he can get much needed help.
Hopefully, David can get this behind him and contiue his college career.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:23:22 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) wrote:
}
}You really have a chip on your shoulder about the WAC, don't you?

No, in fact I have a pretty low opinion of the WAC in general - it
is generally a very weak league (though lately stronger than the
SWC, by my estimation).  That doesn't mean that it doesn't occaisionally
have a great team or a great player, however.  You, in fact, seem to
be the one with "a chip on [his] shoulder about the WAC", since you 
have declared a 299 yard, 3 TD performance by a running back "typical"
against a WAC team without even the remotest shred of evidence that
this is true, and even in the face of some evidence I have given you
to the contrary.

}                                                                   If you
}want to bring up strawmen to knock down, go argue with yourself. I don't
}care squat about yards-per-carry unless they're against the *same* team
}and the back is running in a similar offense.

That's an interesting position coming from someone who has declared
299 yards and 3 TD's a "typical performance against a WAC team."
How can you say that we can't compare performances by running backs
unless they are "against the *same* team" when you have made this
generalization about performances against a group of 10 different teams?

As for setting up straw men, that's not at all what I'm doing.  I am
responding to *your* claim that Marshall Faulk's 299 yards and 3 TD's
are a "typical performance against a WAC team".  No straw man here,
just a request to back that claim up.  I'm not even asking for anything
difficult like a proof, I'm asking for the absolute least anyone could
possibly expect: (1) produce a single, solitary shred of evidence upon 
which this opinion is based, or (2) admit that it is in fact your
usual bullshit.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "What will happen in the evening in the forest with the weasel with
  the teeth which bite so sharp when you're not looking in the evening?"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@neuron.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Subject: record for rushing yardage?
Reply-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:40:00 GMT

After reading about Faulk's big day rushing, I was wondering in what range
might the absolute record be for college football, and who is the holder?

Along a similar vein, I was looking at the Texas high school football
statistics JUST FOR LAST WEEK ONLY, and the leading rusher had over 400
yards in a game (yes, it was regular 11 man football).  I believe he got
right around 30 carries, but I honestly don't recall the exact number.
Almost enough to require use of floating point numbers.
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND-A&M (was Re: Schedule Strengths, Again)
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:46:40 GMT

Robert Szczerba writes:

}Mike,
}
}Actually, I'd rather see an undefeated Irish team
}destroy an undefeated Miami team in the Fiesta Bowl.
}
}		- Rob

Actually, I have to agree with you Rob.  The reason I was
hoping for a Cotton Bowl against A&M is because I live in
Dallas.  But, I guess Tempe, Arizona isn't that far away.

And boy was it ever a party at the Sun Devil House in '89!!!

GO IRISH!!! BEAT WOLVERINES!!!

After I send send this, I'm out the door to catch a flight
to South Bend.  See you at Senior Bar!!!

-Mike Noonan
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From: ASDXPSC <ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:49:00 GMT

>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I beg to differ.
>
>Driving time from Austin to Champaign-Urbana is approximately 17 hours
>passing through Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Illinois on your shortest
>route.  What's the driving time from Penn State to Ohio State? 6-7 hours?
>At least Pennsylvania and Ohio border each other.  As far as general
>accessibility, however, Texas is in Austin and Penn State is in the
>absolute middle of nowhere.
>
>The Big-8 or the SEC are much more logical for Texas geographically, and
>only the Big-8 is logical in terms of conference size.
>
>-Mike Noonan
>
     This only makes sense.  I have been waiting for someone to mention
     it.  The AD's of the two conferences have been meeting now for
     over a year to try and improve cooperation in scheduling and
     maximize exposure.  I would not be susprised to seem some type
     of merger at some point in the future.

************************** HEALTH AND GOOD LIFE TO YOU *************************

    My opinions are in great abundance, but strictly my own and I am
    certain the University in no way cares to even hear them let alone
    share in them.  STANDARD DISCLAIMERS APPLY.

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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictions for 9/12/92
Date: 11 Sep 1992 21:48:14 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: na
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In article <BILLMS.92Sep11165801@z.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
|> In article <5260@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
|> 
|>    In article <1992Sep10.065311.20765@newstand.syr.edu>, demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
|>    |> MARSEE DIVISION I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMPUTER RANKINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 09/05/92
|>    |>                                                                              
|>    |>        (Power ratings in parenthesis - ties broken by defensive rating)      
|>    |>                                                                              
|>    |>   1. WASHINGTON     (829)  37. LOUISIANA TECH (605)  73. BALL STATE     (508)
|>    |>   2. OKLAHOMA       (804)  38. AKRON          (604)  74. MISSOURI       (506)
|>    |>   3. ARIZONA        (792)  39. ILLINOIS       (603)  75. MINNESOTA      (505)
|>    |>   4. NOTRE DAME     (784)  40. AIR FORCE      (603)  76. TEXAS TECH     
|> 
........

|>    And how did U. Miami place 13th, behind teams like Toledo, and Kansas?
|>    I think you should go back and make sure you do not have a bug in your 
|>    program.
|> 
|>    ~ds4, Amazed that anyone would post those rankings.
|> 
|> 
|> I'm amazed at how much shit some people throw at guys like Darryl and Schmit
|> who post their power rankings.  I think its interesting, and a lot of other
|> people seem to as well.  These guys put in the effort because they enjoy it, and
|> they share their results with us.  And some clown always comes by to point
|> out the 'obvious' mistakes.  If you can do better why don't you?
|> 
|> Bill
|> --
|> -------------------------------
|> 	Bill Mangione-Smith
|> 	billms@eecs.umich.edu

Hey, there's nothing wrong with these postings ! Why, good old Minnesota
went from 87 to 75 without playing a game. Keep up the good work !

;^)

-Tom
Go Gophs.....

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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What happened to the Huskies?
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:57:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UMCC

In article <1992Sep12.145608.4003@stortek.com> roush@stortek.com (Jeff Roush) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.225905.19854@u.washington.edu> dokken@u.washington.edu writes:
>>First, I have a question.
>>Does anybody know how many Washington players made the NFL this year?
>>
>>Here's what I know:
>>Emtman - Indy
>>Hall - SF
>>Rodgers - Seattle
>>Fraley - Cut by Seattle
>>Rongen?(is that right)- Cut by Seattle
>>
>>Can someone fill in the blanks?
>>Orlando McKay ???
>>Mario Bailey ???
>>Siupeli Malamala ???
>>Ed Cunningham ???
>>Donald Jones ???
>>Aaron Pierce ???
>>Did I leave anyone out?
>
>Lewis - Broncos
>
>Jeff_Roush@stortek.com
>my opinions are my own...

Bailey was cut by Houston during pre-season.  (Better than Desmond? 
I think not.  Anyone see magic's punt return TD yesterday?  Sorry.  
I just had to rub it in a little.  Forgive me.)

================ 
Steve Johnston
From: herreid@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd J. Herreid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NCAA II POLL
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:32:28 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


                NCAA II FOOTBALL POLL RELEASED

     SCHOOL                    RECORD PTS  PVS
 1.  Pitt., Kan.(4)............2-0-0   80   1
 2.  Indiana, Pa...............2-0-0   74   4
 3.  Jacksonville..............2-0-0   71   2
 tie Portland State............1-0-0   71   3
 5.  N. Colorado...............2-0-0   64   5
 6.  Angelo State, Texas.......2-0-0   60   6
 7.  North Dakota State........1-0-0   56   8
 8.  Texas A&I.................1-1-0   47   9
 9.  NE Missouri St............2-0-0   46 t13
10.  Butler, Ind...............2-0-0   45  12
11.  Hampton, Va...............2-0-0   44  --
12.  Edinboro, Pa..............2-0-0   36  16
13.  New Haven.................2-0-0   27  --
14.  Mankato St................2-0-0   26  --
15.  Savannah, Ga..............2-0-0   24  --
16.  Ashland, Ohio.............2-0-0   19  19
17.  North Alabama.............2-0-0   17  --
18.  Sonoma St., Calif.........1-0-0   16  --
19.  Sacramento St.............1-0-0    7 t13
20.  Nebraska-Omaha............2-0-0    6  --
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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:21:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.154543.19393@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>Peter Reiher writes:
>
>>The real question for Notre Dame fans - has Notre Dame finally gotten
>>a defense that can prevent *any* quarterback from having the day of
>>his life against them?  I didn't see the Northwestern game, but the
>>numbers from the paper suggest that the answer to this question is no.
>
>Keep in mind that the Northwestern Quarterback completed 62% of his passes last
>season.  After watching (some) of the ND/NU game last week, it was clear as to 
>why - almost all of the pass plays were of the ball-control variety - short 
>dumps and such.  This strategy will move the ball well between the twenties, 
>but gets tougher in the "red" zone.
>
>Question:  What was Grbac's pass completion percentage last year?
>
>     - Pat
>.
>-- 
>- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
>- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
>- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
>- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------

Elvis completed 65% of his passes last year for 2,085 yards, 
25 touchdowns and six interceptions.  He was the NCAAs top 
rated quarterback.  That, of course, was with Desmond running 
routes.  However, with Derrick Alexander, Felman Malveaux, 
Walter Smith, Amani Toomer and Mercury Hayes, I see no 
lack of hands for the king to throw to.  

==================================================================
Steve Johnston                                Go Blue! 
ssj@ais.org                              Webber, Rose & Co. 1993
Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
Bluefront@HeroMud II (Heroine)
==================================================================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:42:21 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Distribution: na

Hey, how 'bout using the CNN/USA Today coaches poll instead!!!!!!!  Everyone
knows the coaches know the game better than the writers of America do!!!!!!!
                             1992 National Champions : Washington

                                                     Sincerely,
                                                       a fan who may or may not
                                      be a little biased with his #8 ranked
                                                            Nittany Lions
        p.s. who the hell is Eastern Michigan?  Bring on Miami!!!!!!!!!!!
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: line on A&M-Tulsa game
Keywords: n
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:19:04 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

Anyone out there have the line on the A&M-Tulsa game?

this game should be a romp due to the revenge factor and it being
played in Kyle Field.  Hope this winds up being another win for
the "Single Winner Conference", err, I mean the SWC...  :-)

cmuck
From: kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Sid Kitchel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another HS update - Tulsa Edison SHATTERS RECORD
Keywords: tulsa edison high school
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:49:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (The Pickle) writes:

>On Friday, Tulsa (OK) Thomas Edison crushed Nathan Hale by a record-setting
>62-35. The total score is a Tulsa city record, and the 62 is ranked as one 
>of the highest point totals in large-school history. (8-man and 6-man teams
>have been known to score 70 points in a game in OK.) 


	IMMEDIATELY cease and desist leaving your green gunk all over
this news group!!

	If we desire any more news about Edison, we'll let you know.
Until then, this rec.sport.football.COLLEGE.

							soONEr bred!!!,
							      --Sid
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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal 14 v. Purdue 41
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:27:21 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:


>(Sorry this is late - just got back to the Burgh from West Lafayette)

>We got our butts kicked.  We Got Our Butts Kicked.
>   ****** WE GOT OUR BUTTS KICKED! ******

>I take it back: hats off to the twenty-one members of the Cal Band who
>drove all the way from Berkeley (on their own money), stayed the whole
>game (and played for the thousand or so other Cal alumni) and got
>right back in their cars to go back to Berkeley for school on Monday.
>Or Tuesday.  There's your Cal bright spot.

Thanks!!!  Being a Cal Band alum, it was rare to get any kind
of appreciation for doing this.   We drove for days AT OUR
OWN EXPENSE i.e. OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS.  The university
and/or the athletic department never chipped in a dime.  I remember 
driving to Portland OR, Boulder CO, College Station TX,  and Tempe.   
They were fun but exhausting trips.  

>un-subtle dig at the Purdue "farm boys".  Other interesting quotes
>were (from memory from the Indianapolis Star, and therefore not
>completely accurate) "They talked trash all game, but we kept our
>poise and took it to them."  "I have little respect for the Cal
>players..."  The head coach of Purdue did imply in one of his quotes
>that Gilbertson and his staff is not entirely to blame, and is trying
>to make a turn around.  (He was very explicit in leaving the coaching
>staff out of any disparaging comments.)  For the Cal program's sake, I
>hope he's right.  I don't give a flying rat's tail if Cal goes on to
>win the MNC - if they can't do it with some class and grace, I won't
>give a damn.  I refuse to follow a program that can't win --- and lose
>--- with style.

Well, after taking trash during Big Game week, they got
the humilation that deserved.  A little humility goes a long
way.   It was a major factor in getting pumped up for Clemson.

I hope the Bears learn their lesson.  I think they will.
If we can get better play from the offensive line and QB, we
should be able to beat Kansas.

Unfortunately, arrogance, grandstanding and poor sportsmanship
is not limited to Cal.   Miami is a major offender as well.
This problem has grown worse in recent years.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: PENN STATE vs. TEMPLE: GAME SUMMARY 
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:30:09 GMT


	State College, Pa. - Third-string quarterback Walley Richardson, only
the second freshman to start at quarterback in coach Joe Paterno's 27 years at
Penn State, scored one TD and passed for another as the 10th ranked Nittany
Lions beat Temple.

Temple	0	0	0	8	8
PSU	7	9	19	14	49

***** A - 94,892 *****

	PS - R. Anderson 15 run (Fayak kick)
	PS - Richardson 1 run (run failed)
	PS - FG Fayak 25
	PS - FG Fayak 22
	PS - R. Anderson 34 run (McDuffe pass from Richardson)
	PS - Pitts 11 run (Fayak kick)
	PS - Carter 2 run (Fayak kick)
	TU - Jenkins 3 run (Cabrera run)


			TEMPLE			PENN STATE

First Downs		10			25
Rushes-Yardage		35-96		    *** 52-387 ***
Pass Yardage		101		    *** 194 ***
Return Yards		26			13
Comp-Att-Int		10-26-2		    *** 12-21-0 ***
Punts			11-34			4-36
Fumbles-Lost		1-0			3-1
Penalties		3-45			4-25
Time of Possession	25:52			34:08


INDIVIDUAL LEADERS:

RUSHING:

TEMPLE		Baxter 4-46
		Jenkins 12-40
		Mack 6-19
		Morse 5-11
		Cabrera 4-9
		Miller 1-2
		Paliscak 3- minus 31

PENN STATE	R. Anderson 12-103  <<**********
		O'Neal 6-73
		Morris 7-63
		Pitts 5-56
		Carter 12-43
		Moser 2-15
		Kurlei 2-13
		Archie 4-13
		McDuffir 1-7
		Richardson 1-1

PASSING:

TEMPLE		Paliscak 9-20-2-84
		Linhart 1-3-1-17
		Baxter 0-3-0-0

PENN STATE	Richardson 10-19-0-164 <<*********
		Nardolillo 2-2-0-30 <<************

RECEIVING:

TEMPLE		Washington 2-30
		Jenkins 4-17
		Johnson 1-17
		Richards 1-16
		Lawhom 1-14
		Caso 1-7

PENN STATE	Mcduffie 6-118 <<***********
		Archie 2-26
		Kurlei 1-19
		T. Thomas 1-16
		Drayton 1-10
		O'Neal 1-5 


====================
JLI,  PENN STATE '90
====================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson)
Subject: For those of you who haven't heard...
Summary: Addendum 
Organization: Florida State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:48:09 GMT

trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>
>The Citadel defeated Arkansas by the score of 10-3, Saturday.

Arkansas' coach, (damn, name escapes me at the moment) abruptly resigned a
few hours after this game, saying that the program wasn't where it needed to
be.  Arkansas has named the defensive coordinator (I believe) as interim
coach.

-- 
Bob Swanson			    Give me a lever long enough, and a place
swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu	    to stand, and I will break my lever.
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hawkeye class ??
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:28:36 GMT
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Sep13.205548.27039@news.iastate.edu>, jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>As for the game, Iowa's defense held when it had to. ISU played decent
>defense and had some big plays, but Danan Hughes coupled with Iowa's running
>attack was just too much for ISU to stop. ISU's running attack was able to
>gain 173 yards against the Hawks (no big-gain plays).  Either the Hawks are
>lousy against the run, or ISU has finally developed a decent running game.
>
During my years in Iowa, I never saw a pure hatred like this.  Dislike
and all that.  But enough of that, about the game.

From what I saw, it looked like Iowa State needs to develop a passing
game.  Although 173 rushing yds isn't bad it isn't great when you're
passing under 100yds.  It seemed like to me, that ISU was relying too
heavily on their running game.  And since it wasn't moving, the
Cyclones weren't moving.
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From: joconnor@evax12.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O)
Subject: touching of a turtle???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: joconnor@evax12.eng.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: 15 SEP 92 09:21:06    

What with the new tradition at Maryland of touching a giant turtle
at the beginning of a game?

They wouldn't be copying another tradition from a fellow acc school 
would they?

Are they going to nick-name their stadium to "GALAPAGOS" (sp?) 
(favorite Darwin hang-out)

--->->->->->------------G-O----N-O-L-E-S------------------------------------->
James O'Connor                            FSU-VS-NC STATE
JOCONNOR@EVAX.eng.fsu.edu                 SEPT 19, 1992 12:00 P.M.
FSU/FAMU College-O-Engineering            (DONT KNOW) Stadium,Raleigh?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:00:04 GMT

Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith writes:

>Sure Sanders is a great back, but he would rarely gain more than 150 a game
>if he played for a PSU, ND, Michigan.

Especially if he had to share time with a running back of the caliber of, Oh I 
don't know, a Thurman Thomas?

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
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