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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:50:42 GMT
Organization: Pomona College

In article <37673@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
> 
> But then again, Disney got away with Fantasia,
> didn't they?

Yes, but it took about thirty years.

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From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid Series
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:43:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

>Anyway, unless CBS is lying, tonight's episode is titled "A Whale of
>a Tale."  I don't know the air time.  It's a "prequel" of course--
>Ariel's about fourteen years old (uh oh!).  Looks pretty good so
>far.

Say, did anyone else notice that this episode was written by Peter
Beagle (author of _The Last Unicorn_)? Wonder whether he'll be doing
this regularly. 

I missed the first Saturday broadcast because the time was changed (on
the West Coast, at least) to accommodate coverage of the U.S. Open, so 
I don't know who wrote that episode.


Patty

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From: anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash)
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous, DA-Holics Anonymous
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.180430.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>
>You're absolutely right.  The Walt Disney Company is solely responsible
>for homelessness, hunger, drug abuse, riots, rape, drunk driving, murder,
>and the fact that there hasn't been a decent candidate for public office
>on any level in over two hundred years.

Not to mention a *warped* sense of family values (hear that, Mr. Bush?),
especially since they have virtually all non-traditional families.

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From: prw@Apple.COM (Paul Wenker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: EPCOT in 1st Half November
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:41:11 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Aug28.232901.10848@chg.mcd.mot.com> heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby) writes:
>For these places, I understand that we will have to take a bus or tram
>to EPCOT.  We'd like to pick a place that is on a route with few other
>stops.  Also, we figure that arriving at the "back entrance" near
>France would be a Plus.  Since my father is in his mid-seventies, and
>we're going to be doing a great deal of walking in the parks, we want
>to avoid long walks between where we want to go and the bus stop, as
>well as stair climbing at the hotel.  I'd appreciate any
>recommendations as to where to reserve.
>
>We'll be driving to FL, so will have our own car.  One person in my
>office suggested that it would be more efficient for us to drive our
>own car and park in the EPCOT parking lot.  I thought perhaps I could
>park near and enter through the "back entrance" as I mentioned above.
>I'd like to hear from anyone who's tried driving from on-property
>hotels to EPCOT.

There is no parking, or for that matter even a road, near the "back entrance"
to EPCOT.  It's accessible only via a walkway from the Yacht/Beach Club and
by a tram from the Yacht Club, Swan, and Dolphin.

Although they are more expensive, I think the Yacht and Beach Club hotels
would work well for you.  You can walk or tram to the France entrance at
EPCOT in under 5 minutes, take a watercraft from the hotel beach
to MGM in under 10 minutes, and take a bus directly to the Magic Kingdom
main entrance (bypassing the ticket center and extra monorail/ferry ride)
in about 15 minutes.  All of the buses, etc. are as close or closer than
your parked car and there's hardly a stair to be found.

-Paul Wenker
-Apple Computer, Inc.
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Why I love Disney, Part 47
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:50:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <Rich_Koster.0ovy@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
> 
>This reply comes from my wife, Carol:

Great posting, Carol!

> I've read elsewhere of a family who brought a terminally ill child on a
>"Make a Wish" type trip to WDW, made it inside the MK gate, saw Mickey

Ah, thanks for the reminder, Carol! Why I Love Disney, Part 48: They're 
tremendous supporters of the Make-a-Wish program. Every time I get a
MAW newsletter, there's a long list of local kids who've gone to WDW
or Disneyland. (And that's just from the San Jose area.) 

I don't know exactly how the expenses are divvied up, but it's clear
that the Disney theme park folks go out of their way to give these kids
a great time.


Patty

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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Homophobia?
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:16:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep6.220110.25556@ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>In article <37749@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>
>	They made a POINT of telling us that Howard Ashman, the
>lyricist for both movies, had died of AIDS, and that it was a
>great loss. If you remember, at the end of B&TB they give a
>dedication to him, although admittedly they didn't remind us
>there that he died of AIDS.
>
>	It might be different divisions of the company, perhaps.
>It might also be that homosexuals are more accepted in clearly
>artistic fields.
>	-- Ethan


Nowadays, it's no longer important how a person got AIDS.  And
telling everyone that he's gay is a violation of privacy.  I didn't
mean to say there was a problem with Ashman--I just meant that
Disney may be shying away from employing well-known gays to preserve
their image.  I can't say I blame them, but when the news gets out
they may take some heat.  The problem now is with Bell, not Ashman.
I've even seen a corny AIDS tribute show where Ashman was given
individual attention (clips from Disney movies included).  I'm just
waiting to hear what the Disney management has to say about this.

- Robert Cook
From: doug@celia.UUCP (Doug Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Movie Poster Value
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: celia!doug@usc.edu (Doug Nichols)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

Value is in the mind of the buyer. If you do not ever ever ever
intend to sell it for cash money, do whatever you want to it.

If, in some far distant future, where your rent is due and the
plummer is under your sink and the tax man just left with your
piggy bank and you look at that poster on the wall, and Mowgli
just doesn't seem so important to you any more, then, by all
means:

Don't Trim The Poster.

$0.02

Doug Nichols
Rhythm & Hues
Hollywood, CA
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Bunnicula
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:49:50 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

tyger@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear) writes:
>>
>>Personally, I'd love to see them do a version of a book I read in elementary 
>>school.  It was called "Bunnicula" and it was about a vampire rabbit.  Not a 
>>fairy tale, I'll grant you, but it was a fun book anyway.  
>
>Oh *wow*! I haven't thought of that story in ages! That really was a hoot! I
>would have to agree that it could lend itself well to a full length feature.
>
Well, it wasn't full length, and it wasn't Disney, but I believe an
animated version of Bunnicula has been done.  I believe it was an ABC
After School Special.  I saw commercials for it, but didn't watch it.
Anyone have more info?

Jann E VanOver
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Subject: rescuers video
From: <JSMITH@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 15 Sep 1992 19:07:36 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

    well, i just picked it up and sadly there is no new preview of aladdin on
    it, like there was for 101 dalmations and the great mouse detective.

        major bummer.


          james smith---university of north dakota
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: I am Ariel
Date: 5 Sep 1992 18:28:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


About the TLM clothes in adult sizes--I don't think they sell them anymore.
Right after the movie came out, the Disney store carried a few t-shirts, but 
I haven't seen any more for a long time.  It's not really cost efficient for
Disney to make a lot of the adult sized clothes based on the feature films,
because their biggest sellers are going to be the children's clothes.  If 
it's not a Mickey Mouse shirt, a lot of adults don't want Disney clothes.
(Weird people, in my opinion, but, oh well).  After the movie's out of the
theaters, the demand for adult clothes goes way down, so they stop selling.
So, if you want a Beauty and the Beast shirt, you'd better buy it now.
By the way, since everyone else wants to be Ariel, I'll be Belle.  Brown hair,
brown eyes, loves to read, and thought Beast was adorable after he lightened 
up a little.  I even collect candlesticks and teapots! :-)  I just have to 
learn French and get a gold ballgown.  Now we just need a Princess Aurora,
Cinderella, and Snow White!  Any takers?
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stupid"-----Mrs. Banks, -Mary Poppins-
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What can man do to me?'"-----Hebrews 13:6
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:48:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep4.153619.16879@alf.uib.no> singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde) writes:

>Just for the record:
>
>Disney have adopted great "legendary" writers bofore.
>
>Charles Dickens:
>
>   Mickey's Christmas Carol    (superb!!!!! Best of the 1980's cartoons?)
>
>   Oliver and Company          (well...)
>
>
>
>-----
>Kurt.
>-----

True, true, but these two have been changed and reused so many times
that no one cares.  Can anyone think of a sitcom that hasn't had an
episode based on "A Christmas Carol?" (rhetorical question)
Shakespeare is a legend among legends (speaking from the lay point
of view).  Who knows, maybe a feature based on Shakespeare would be
praised for bringing these works to the masses of children, giving
them a sense of culture or other such nonsense the media piles on.
Fantasia, as I've said, is an example, but it was sharply criticized
when it first came out.  These days, the animation department has to
be a bit more cautious.

- Robert Cook
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:35:31 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep15.005827.28604@engage.pko.dec.com>, snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
> 
> In article <21982@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, 
> Ahh, what's the matter -- is your masculinity hurt because you believed and
> repeated a story that turned out to be a well-known urban legend?  That's

Huh? I didn't believe anything. I simply think your immediate attack on
the post without any attempt to verify the story of this individual was
pompous, self-righteous and aggravating.

> nothing compared to how immature your childish outpouring of profanity makes
> you appear. 

 "outpourings"? I called you an asshole - get a grip, when I want to ouptour
I'll use at least three syllables per obscenity...

> My disbelief has nothing to do with refusing to accept that this could happen
> at a Disney park -- it has to do with the fact that this same story has been
> repeatedly reported, year after year, as having occurred at Disneyland, Disney
> World, various other amusement parks, shopping malls, and just about every
> other place where large numbers of families gather.  

 And kidnappings and resulting murders have occured as well. If it is that
you don't believe then I can certainly supply enough examples in just the
past two decades (these would be examples which anyone could check of 
course) of child-killers who kidnapped from malls, parks, playgrounds,
drive-ins etc. 

> Ah, the first weapon in the arsenal of the embarrassed story-teller: the "you
> can't prove it *didn't* happen" missile.  Perhaps you'd like to offer a shred

I didn't tell the story! I frankly don't care if it is true or not. My 
response was directed at your attitude (I did not notice the alt.fl.u 
crosspost in all fairness to you and thought that the topic was in
terms of r.a.d,) not to the veracity of the orignal posting.

> of evidence that it *did* happen, like the name of one of the security guards
> involved, details of the Disney security report, information from the 
> subsequent police report, or a media account of the incident?   I thought not.

 Ask him - I didn't post it! But shouldn't that have been the question
asked rather than attacking the individual as a liar or brain-dead twit?

> Perhaps if it were my child I'd take a little more care to check into the
> details before spreading horror stories and unnecessarily frightening children
> and their parents.

 So then, it is OK for someone like you to simply dismiss the claim
without any idea of whether it is true or not because it is similar to an
existing urban legend? Then I stand by what I said, screw you...


			gln
From: sdy@bcstec.boeing.com (Ugly Bag of Mostly Water)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mission to Mars (was: Closures at Disneyland )
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:28:02 GMT
	<1992Sep13.034315.17144@pmarlowe.uucp>
Organization: Ringworld
In-reply-to: russell@pmarlowe.uucp's message of 13 Sep 92 03:43:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.034315.17144@pmarlowe.uucp> russell@pmarlowe.uucp (Russell Shanks) writes:

           On a somewhat related note,  I heard through the grapevine that
           Mission to Mars will be closed for good sometime soon (in a few
           weeks).  Anyone care to confirm this?   
I just got back from Disneyland (9/13) and the train message was telling us
that 9/13 would be the end of Mission to Mars -- for good, and to ride it while
we could (of course we did=)

about the rest I don't know sorry.

steve.
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From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:31:20 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban

In article <BuKxB0.C4u@news.larc.nasa.gov> bogart@sabre.larc.nasa.gov (Ed Bogart) writes:
> 
> The best twist that i have heard on this UL was back in the early 70s when we
> people here in Virginia were first being exposed to the idea that all people 
> are created equal.  There were two versions in general circulation.  One that
> said that the kidnappers were Klan members and the kid was black. The other 
> said that the kidnappers were black militants and the child was white.

The version I heard had gypsies as the kidnappers.
But you're right about the ethnic connection.  It's the same sort of thing
with the immigrant Asians eating the neighborhood pets.

Followups to alt.folklore.urban, please.
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From: dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Movie Poster Value
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:43:43 GMT


Hi Reid! 

There is a store here called "Lechters" that sells plexiglas frames at
great prices - @ $15 for theater - size.  Let me know if you want
their phone # if there is no store in your area. (it's nationwide
franchise)

Donna :>
(how's the family ?)
From: steven@uts.amdahl.com (Steven Swinkels)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Pooh Hallmark Ornaments
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:14:39 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In <1992Sep9.162959.17236@news.acns.nwu.edu> jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West) writes:

>Was Gopher a Disney creation? I don't seem to remember him from 
>the A.A. Milne books.

Gopher was a pure Disney creation.  In one of the wryest bits of humor, 
Gopher tells the audience as much frequently in the various Pooh shorts:
"I'm not in the book."
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>>The opinions expressed herein are solely my own.<<
"Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug." - Dire Straits
From: jonathan@linus.claremont.edu
Subject: Main Street Windows at Disneyland
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:27:48 PDT

Here is the data I've compiled on the names on Main Street windows.
Most of the information came from:

Window on Main Street by Van Arsdale France
Disney's Art of Animation by Bob Thomas
The Art of Walt Disney by Christopher Finch
The Man Behind the Magic by Katherine and Richard Greene

Thanks to the folks who sent me information.

There are still a few I don't have, so if you come across any names you
know, please send it.

jonathan@hmcvax.claremont.edu

------------------------------------------------------------------------


William  Wheeler
John Wies
"Structural Engineers"
 
J.S. Hammel
"Consulting Engineer"
 
Richard Irvine - One time head of WED (Walt's private "Imagineering" Co.)
Marvin Davis - Owner of 20th Century Fox
Gabriel Scognamllo
Wade B. Rubottom
George Patrick

"Evans Gardens
Exotic and rare species
Freeway Collections
Est. 1910"

Morgan Bill Evans - Landscape artist that built the Jungle Cruise
"The Busy Hands
Sculpting, Whittling, Soap Carving"
Blain Gibson
 
Milt Albright -  Disney Promotional Executive
"Entrepreneur    Came up with the idea of "Holidayland" the only place at 
                 Disneyland that would serve beer.  The idea didn't
                 make it.
No job too big, no job too small"
 
 
"The Musical Quill"
X. Atencio
 
Milt Albright -  Disney Promotional Executive
"Entrepreneur"   Came up with the idea of "Holidayland" the only place at 
                 Disneyland that would serve beer.  The idea didn't
                 make it.
"No job too big, no job too small"
 
 
"The Musical Quill"
X. Atencio

Robert Whiskey
Stone Mason

George Whitney - Owned an amusment park in San Fransisco
"Guns"           "Whitney's At the Beach" Walt hired him as a
                  consultant for Disneyland 

"Painting and Paper hanging by"
Larry Smith

"Buena Vista Construction Co."
Jack Rorex
Ivan Martin
Chas. Shockey

"Detective Agency
We never sleep"
W. Dennis Cottrell -   Sequence director for Snow White
Private Investigator   Went to South America with walt in 1941

"Photographic Studio"
C. Randy Bright, proprietor

"The Disneyland News" - One time Publicity Director for Disneyland
Edward T. Meck
"Editor in chief"
	
"The Plaza School of Art
Instructors"
John Hench - Art Director, Imagineer
Peter Ellenshaw - Art Director

Alexander R. Irvine, MD

The Golden Vaudeville Routines
Wally Boag, proprietor - Played Pecos Bill and other characters at the Golden
                         Horseshoe Revue for over twenty years.

Untied Audit Bookkeeping
Accounts Audit
Royal Clark, Manager

"The Old Settlers Gold Dredging"
Ed Winger, proprietor

"Decorative Fountains and Waterworks"
Fred Joerger

Christopher D. Miller - Walt's Grandson
"Turkish Baths
Main Street Gym
Massage Parlor"

D.S. Gillmore, MD
E.G. Upjohn, MD

Wathel Rogers
"Men's wear"

Elais Disney - Walt's father
"Contractor
Est. 1895"

"Coats and Co."
Calude Coats, Proprietor - Disney artist

"The Artisans Loft"
Harriet Burns - Walt's private secretary
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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Port Orleans vs. ?
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:21:29 GMT


My cubemate is heading to WDW in early Oct.  Her daughter wants to stay at Port
Orleans ("the one with the dragon"), but I remember someone giving some pros
and cons about PO vs. the Carribean.  Any quick info would be useful, as she is
making reservations tonight.  If I can help, she might give me the root
password on our server!
Thanks,
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From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: I am Ariel
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:12:41 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Sep4.133834.2589@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>However, I am making a fin for a Halloween costume (or at least, that's what
>I'm telling everyone it's for).  I'm using pliable but tough plastic for the
>fin, sewn inside the kelly green bathing suit material that makes up the 
>fin.  No, I can't walk in it, why?  That's missing the point.  My feet help
>manouver the fin for when I swim in it.  I am almost finished sewing on the
>sequins that represent scales.  That's been the biggest pain.
>
If you decide to be a little lazy you could go to the Disney Store and buy
an Ariel costume.  They do come in adult sizes.  Cost is about $60.

>Jennifer

-Rick
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