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From: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: ***** THE KORAN IN ARABIC ON DISK *****
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:40:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Status: RO
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu

In article <701875840@macbeth.cs.duke.edu> s914407@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Hatim) writes:

      For a while now, I've have the Koran on disk in Arabic. (for IBM)
      The program is very good in that it allowed me to view any 'sura'
      'verse' etc. The program was also helpful in that it could search for
      a certain pharses, words, etc when I couldn't remember where certain
      verses, words etc came from. In general the program is very could
      however the only problem is that it only works with cga or lower
      configurations. I have a VGA monitor, so its a hastle for me to always
      change my computers configuration. My request is that I would like to have
      a version of the program that would run on a vga configuration.
      If anyone out there who has such a teriffic program, I would greatly
      appreciate it if a copy is sent to me via this system. I would also
      be more than happy to send anyone the current program I have. But as I
      said earlier, it would be much better if such a program was available
      for VGA configured computers.

      Anyone who has such a program can send it to:
		 s914407u@minyos.xx.RMIT.oz.au   OR
		 s914407u@otto.xx.RMIT.oz.au

		       THANKS IN ADVANCE. WA SALAMU ALAYKOOM, WA RAHMAT ALLAH.


I have also one which is good, but works only on CGA. It is made by a
company called SALSABEEL, but I have no address of it. I heard a few
weeks ago that this company is in Egypt and was alleged of helping
"fundamentalists" who wanted to overthrow the government there. I do
therefore not know whether this co still exists. Does anybody know the
address of/other info about it?
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From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Message of Islam, miracles of Mohammad
Summary: Verification, Please....
Keywords: Miracles
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:28:00 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu

In article <12APR199204071530@romeo.caltech.edu> hyder@cs.utexas.edu writes:

>In article <1992Mar25.212243.20572@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
> jrad@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ahmad.m.jrad) writes:

>:Finally, how can you discount the miracles of Muhammed (PBUH)?
>:Feeding hundreds to their fill from a normal size pot of food.
>:Crushing a solid stone that men could not crush into an easily
>:crushable sandy mix. Causing water to flow to the surface
>:to satisfy the thirst of his followers. 

>I am not sure about the authenticity of the above claims.
>Would you please give us the sources of the above. 
>Because, from whatever I have heard, the only miracle
>with  which Mohammad (pbuh) was bestowed was
>that of the Quran.

I seem to remember something from Al Bukhari about the Prophet
(SAW) refusing to go to his daughter's child, who supposedly died
soon after, and then when he went, he wept.  I cannot remember
whether or not he is supposed to have brought the child back to
life, or whether I am thinking of Isaiah's bringing a child back
to life.

If any brothers or sisters can remember/look up this Hadith, I'd
appreciate it.  I believe it's in Volume Nine of Al Bukhari....

-Nick
From: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
Subject: RE: Shiites ... (4)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Originator: Mughal@Iago.Caltech.Edu (Asim Mughal -Moderator)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 10:48:00 GMT


What the problem of Khalifa is concerned, the only (real) Muslims
which do not accept the first four Khalifs (Hulafaa-i Rashideen) are
the Twelwers called Jafaree. Zaydis accept the Hulafa, and Ismailis of today
can not be called Muslims at all, as they do not believe that our
prophet was the last and that the zahir of the Qur-an is to be
considered as always true, and to be followed. So, only a small
grouping among Muslims do not see them as rightly guided. It's not a
so large problem, unless nobody starts with insults against them.

Assalaamu ~alaikum,
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Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
From: khan@twg.com (Sharaaz K. Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: SERBS are killing Muslims
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:13:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Status: RO
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu


Sketchy details are coming out from ex-Yugoslavia in the state of Bosnia.
Scattered details of toture and murder of Muslims and Albanians are on
the rise.  This is being carried out by Serbian terrorist groups, armed 
by the Serbian Army.  The Serbian Army, on the other hand are claiming 
not to have any control over the situation and are just sitting back 
watching the whole bit - Allah o Akbar (God is Greater)

Following are some of the stories that have reached myself from
a co-worker who is Slavenian(The news he received was in the local language,
and subject to 10-15% miscommunication):


"Alabanians are beeing killed without question.  Muslims still are receiving 
 fair chance that they are given a choice on how to die - to be stabbed in 
 the back or in front"

"A fifteen year old boy was caught trying to escape in a crowd.  They asked    
 his name, which he answered.  They did not recognise the name as Alabanian
 or Muslim, so they hit him with the back of the butt on his head.  Two other 
 teenagers were apprehended who openly claimed that they were Muslim.  They 
 were stabbed to death on the spot"

"Prisoners, mostly women, are being used to fight unto their deaths without
 their clothes.  Bets are placed on these fights, and eventually, the
 surviving women are massacred at the end of the fight."

These are just few of the cases reported from some of the refugee families 
fleeing Bosnia for Slovenia.  When asked about the number of dead, the
response was:

" No one knows, due to the lack of reporters.  Even the dead are not given
  peace.  Their bodies are thrown in mass graves and the rivers.  Those 
  people are animals"

On the question of the refugees returning to Bosnia:

" Go back..... NEVER.... We can not live with animals.  Those Serbs are
  animals.....NEVER!!!"

I am urging all the netters to strictly condemn the Serbian Army for aiding
these terrorist groups continuing the genocide of innocent Muslims and 
Albanians.  Please call your local congressman, or whoever you can before 
more lives are lost.  

May Allah give these people patience in this tribulation.

Sharaaz Khan


A Local Slovenian Newspaper.
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
From: suheil@athena.mit.edu (Suheil I Laher)
Subject: RE: Wudu (was Re: Show me ...)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Originator: Mughal@Romeo.Caltech.Edu (Asim Mughal -Moderator)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:04:00 GMT



"yA ayyuha al-lathIna AmanU ithA qumtum ila al-SalAti faghsilU wujUhakum wa
aydiyakum ila al-marAfiqi wamsaHU bi ru-Usikum wa arjulakum ila -al-ka`bayn.
[Ayah continues]"		(surat al-maaidah)

My approximate translation of the meaning of the above:
O ye who believe, when you stand up for prayer, wash your faces, and your arms
upto the elbows, and wipe your heads, and (wash) your feet upto the ankles.

You may notice that the word "wash" relating to feet has been parenthesized by
me, but this is not wishful thinking: I do not know how familiar you are with th
e
arabic language (I myself cannot claim to be an expert) but ask any arabic exper
t
if you feel qualms about accepting what follows:
the word "arjula" (feet) is <manSUb> in this verse (i.e. terminates with fatHa),
thus making it an object of the (imperative) verb <faghsilU> (meaning, wash).

There are seven different readings (qirA'At) of the qur'an, all of which are
valid.  (i think there is a hadith to the effect- sorry dont have any refs
at present on that). The transliteration I have given above is according to thereading of
<HafS>.  I have HEARD, but have not seen myself, that in one of these readings,t
hese readings the word <arjul> is <majrUr>, which would associate "feet" with the
verb "wipe".  However - this wiping could refer to <masH `ala al-khuffain> - the
practice of wiping over special socks (which must fulfil special conditions)
rather than washing the feet, provided the socks were worn while the person was<mutawaDi'> and that no more than 24 hrs (72 hrs for a <musAfir> (traveller)) ha
ve
elapsed since he lost his wudhu'.  This practice of masH-alal-khuffain is
accepted, as far as I know, by all 4 sunni mazahib.

Nevertheless, please not that your <1992Mar19.233442.10934@cco.caltech.edu>,
bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) statement that :
|>                                                               The Qur'an
|> doesn't say that the feet must be washed.
is indisputably incorrect, just as i cannot claim that the qur'an does not
say you should wipe on the feet.

There are also authentic aHAdIth which tell of some of the companions of the
Prophet (peace be upon him), who once hurrying to pray and were therefore not
washing their feet properly but were only wiping them; they were told : (or word
s
to the effect):
<waylun li al-a`qAbi min al-nAr>
"save your heels from the fire"
You should take note that this is an authentic hadith narrated by Bukhari, Musli
m,
Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud, and I think also by others.

Incidentally, I have seen shi'ites _washing_ their feet, as I have seen
shi'ites praying with their arms folded, and shi'ites giving azaan the
same as sunnis (i.e. without the extra parts about `ali and <hayya 
`alaa khairil`amal>).

Wassalam
From: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Science vs. Religion??? (was Re: Adam/creation)
Date: 3 Apr 92 15:12:47 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Status: RO
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu

In article <ksu90dINNov5@girtab.usc.edu> jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar) writes:
[...]

   One thing is certain, however, and that is the fact that Allah
   (SWT) not only created this world we live in, but that He 
   understands it better than we can ever hope to.  Any apparent 
   contradiction between the minute knowledge we are able to 
   scrape together and the Truth of Allah (SWT)'s words is due to 
   our incomplete understanding, as He has not yet (to my knowledge) 
   acted outside the Laws he has set for His creation.

I buy this, brother! 


   -Nick


   Oh Allah (SWT), You know all while I know naught in comparison.
   May any Truth in what I have written here find your Blessing that
   it may reach those whose hearts are open to it.  All praises are
   due to You and to no other.  May Your Will be done.  Amin.
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From: ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Quoting from the Quran [or rather are mono and diglycerides halal?]
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:29:39 GMT
	<22687@life.ai.mit.edu> <701870063@macbeth.cs.duke.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Status: RO
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu


Assalaamu ~alaikum,

Is it halal to eat cheese which has been made using acids from an
animal which was slaughtered not in the Islamic way?
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From: clg1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Christopher L Gray)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Pleasure Marraiges?
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:11:46 GMT
Organization: The Deephouse Project


I was riding with a Muslim friend of mine and he 
mentioned that there was a concept permissable in Islam
called a "pleasure marraige".

Would someone care to elaborate on it and it's
procedures?


 
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Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Islamic position on donating organs
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:50:16 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
Status: RO
Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu


In article <12APR199214441150@romeo.caltech.edu> JAMALEDDIN@VAX1.UMKC.EDU writes:
>
>In article <23MAR199214582472@iago.caltech.edu>, ys3359@csc.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:

>> 
>> 	Does anyone know what the Islamic position is on donating
>> organs after death?
...
>
>1>  Your donation must goto a Muslim

Why is this?

>3>  Your body after death must not be used for 'show and tell'  by doctors etc.

How, then can medical students learn?

--
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The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
From: glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: English interpretations of Holy Qur'an
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:44:12 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133



I recently downloaded the English interpretation of the Holy Qur'an from
through.ugcs.caltech.edu, that was posted in this newsgroup.
And I noticed some differences between this interpretation by M.H. Shakir
(Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, Inc.) and the interpretation by N.J. Dawood
(Penguin Books 1990).

Could an Arabic speaker please tell me which interpretation of this portion of
Surah Al-Naba Chapter 78 is more accurate?

By Shakir:

<  31. Surely for those who guard (against evil) is achievement,
< 
<  32. Gardens and vineyards,
< 
<  33. And those showing freshness of youth, equals in age,
< 
<  34. And a pure cup.


By Dawood:

>  31. As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph.
>  
>  32. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards,
>  
>  33. And high-bosomed maidens for companions:
>  
>  34. A truly overflowing cup.

Thank you.
From: uunet!unr!taqwaa@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Muhammad Taqwaa)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Moon visibility program wanted
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:12:58 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno



Dear Brothers & sister,

I got a nice program for Time Table.
Does any body knows about a program for visibility of Moon 
like  Time Table program.

Men Allah Tofig
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Subject: Moderator`s note: Delays in postings
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Originator: Mughal@Iago.Caltech.Edu (Asim Mughal -Moderator)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:06:00 GMT


	Due to some local problems, postings couldn't be made on rn.
	The three week long backlog will be taken care of tonight,Inshallah. 
	
	Please make sure you post your article only ONCE. 

	Peace,
___________________________________________________________________________
Asim M Mughal				
[Standard Disclaimer]
From: HSUSA00@ricevm1.rice.edu (Susarla, H. Krishna)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Islam and tolerance for other religions
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:32:06 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX

I have a question for any Muslim who can answer it:
What is Islam's/Quran's position on other religions? (i.e. - tolerance or intol
erance?)
From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Revelation of Qur'an
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:01:01 GMT


Assalam Walaikum,

	While reading the book "TALIM-UL-ISLAM" (Lessons in Islam), 
by Mufti Kifayatullah, I needed some clarification to an answer given.
The following transcript is from the book:

Q. 411.  It is given in the Islamic faith and beliefs that the Qur'an was
revealed over a period of twenty three (23) years.  Allah says in the 
Qur'an:
	SHAHRU RAMANDANAL-LAZI UNZILA FIHIL-QUR'AN
	(Ramadan is the month in which the Holy Qur'an was revealed).

	This shows that the Qur'an was revealed in the month of Ramadan.

	IN-NA ANZALNAHU FI-LAILATIL-QADR
	(We revealed the Qur'an i nthe night of "Qadr").

	This shows that the Holy Qur'an was revealed dureing the night
of "Qadr".

	These three statements appear to be in conflict with each other.
Which one of these is to be accepted as being correct?

Ans.  All the three statements are correct.  The fact is that the revelation 
of the Holy Qur'an was in two stages.  Firstly, the entire Qur'an was sent
down from the Preserved Tablet, to the sky of the earth (the first sky). 
Secondly, it was sent down, bit by bit, into the world, as and when the 
necessity arose.  Thus, the meaning of the two verses of the Holy Qur'an
is that it was sent down in a certain night (Qadr) of the Holy Ramadan,
from the Preserved Tablet to the sky of the earth.  Reference to 23 years,
means that it continued to be revealed to the Holy Prophet. (Peace be
upon him), for 23 years.  Thus, the three propositions are not 
contradictory, but correct.

-------
Is the Preserved Tablet being refererred to when Angel Jibra'il (Gabriel)
first appeared to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) or is the first sky referred to 
a time before Prophet Muhammed?  What is meant by the explaination
of the entire Qur'an was sent down from the Preserved Tablet to the 
sky of the earth?

-Rukhsana
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Slavery, Divorce and Religion Perfection (was Re: Co-Wives)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Originator: Mughal@Iago.Caltech.Edu (Asim Mughal)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:29:00 GMT

m21757@mitre.org writes:

>It is not the default it is allowed.  Divorce is not the default it is
>allowed.

 God did NOT say, "divorce your wives but if you can not then keep them".
I said that polygamy is the default, I did not say that every allowed
thing is the default. It is, however, obvious that the default is allowed
(more than other options) except in explicit exceptions.

>Certainly if you _already_ have more than one wife don't just ignore one, 
>do your best to be equitable.  It does not necessarily mean that you can 
>have more than one wife just because your little heart desires. 

  Any proof to this? Is the verse too difficult to understand? If something
is lawful and my heart desires it, why shouldn't I do it?

>He perfected our religion to give us the perfect structure.  Islam allows 
>slavery.  Is slavery beautiful because it is allowed in Islam?  Is 
>divorce?  He has given us structure in which to do the correct thing, in 
>the particular circumstances.

   What perfect structure if (according to you) it allows bad things?
   I am sorry that this shows that you do not know a lot about Islam. I
am also sorry that I do not have the time to discuss slavery and divorce.
You can read about them or some brother can reply to your misunderstanding
of Islam's standing to them. But it is not that easy. You merely claim that
Islam may permit the good and the bad! No, it may not, this contradicts
the Koran (I think in Ma'idah), the description of the Prophet is that he
permits the good and prohibits the bad.

   PLEASE someone discuss slavery and divorce because most people do not
know about them any more than malicious infidels.

>We are not making fatwas, we are discussing.  Do you think this should be 
>stopped?

   I ask that it be logical and not everybody think they are Abu/Umm
Haneefah while they do not know the basics.

--

 If you pass me in your boat while I am drowning at sea, would you save
 me or would you have a sense of humor to laugh at me?

                                                      **Nabeel

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From: beekun@unssun.scs.unr.edu (Rafik Beekun)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Please give... (zip code correction)
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:38:43 GMT



Assalaamou Alaikoum

When sending your zakat money to ISNA, please mail it to the following
address:

ISNA Zakat Fund
P.O. Box 38
Plainfield
IN 46168

Their phone number is (317) 839-8157.  They will not touch a cent of
your zakat money, but will (at their own expenses) make sure that it
gets to the needy that you designate whether in the USA or overseas.

Please remember the following ayat when giving sadaqa or zakat.

Behold, you are those
Invited to spend
(of your substance)
In the Way of Allah:
But among you are some 
That are niggardly. But any
Who are niggardly are so
At the expense of
Their own souls.

But Allah is free
of all wants,
And it is you that are needy.
If you turn back
(From the Path), He will
Substitute in your stead
Another people; then they
Would not be like you!

(Surah 47: 38-39)


---------

Have a nice Ramadhan and Eid ul Fitr

Abu Farhad