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From: pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: RDC's and SPV's?
Keywords: Self proplled cars, history, BUDD
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:10:41 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.100324.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, andradee@woods.ulowell.edu
writes, in part:

>...from what I have heard over the years, it sounds like the RDC's and SPV's
>were/are very unreliable units.
	RDC reliability, when new or well maintained, was accounted good.
	(perhaps one of the Candian folk can comment, they used some for
	long distance, for a long time.)  The RDC's were used on some long
	haul services in the US, also, with (generally) good results.

	Towards the end of their lives, they were 30 plus years old and had
	suffered from "deferred" maintenance or (unreplacable) parts, so things
	got a bit ratty.

	The SPV, while from the same company, was done 20 years later, with
	no continuity, no interim units built.  Essentially, start from the
	beginning.

	I once toured the Metro-North shops in Brewster, where the SPV's
	were maintained.  The foreman was not enthusiastic.  The specific
	thing he mentioned was "over complication".  The particular case
	was the cooling system:
		There are 4 diesels per car.  Two large for traction, two
		small as Auxilliary Power Units (Electricity for A/C,
		lights, etc.)  On paper, this allows fuel economy, by
		shutting down the main power when the car is on standby.

		BUT.  The APU ALSO was the only power for the cooling
		fans for the traction engines.  Sooooo, if the APU died
		(which they did), there was no way to run the traction
		engines.  Not Good.
	(this is from memory, but essentially correct.  There may have been
	_one_ APU per car, which makes it even worse.  Single point of
	failure.)  My impression is that there were other "features" like
	this.  Anybody have any solid info?

thanks
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From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Rail Freqs.
Keywords: Radio, Frequencies
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:37:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

Thank you very much for the great list of frequencies!

In article <1992Apr9.203339.21894@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> roma@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Roma) writes:
 .....
>Amtrak
 .....
>    160.800  [46] road (Northeast corridor)

One minor correction. Amtrak road on NEC is 160.92, not 160.80. As
mentioned elsewhere in the article 160.80 is Conrail road 1. Amtrak
had to find itself a different frequency for NEC in order to avoid
clash with Conrail road 1.

Incidentally, Amtrak NEC is a remarkably quite operation as far as CB
traffic is concerned. I live close enough to the NEC to be within
range of Dock and Hudson towers. When I am home, I usually keep
my CB scanner tuned to 160.92. It is quite unusual to hear more than a
couple of transmissions per hour, which is surprisingly quite
considering the amount of railroad traffic on that segment of the
corridor. Even the transmissions that you do hear are typically,
Hudson tower notifying NJTransit 3544 that his rear headlight is on or
some such. Apparently, the dragging equipment detectors in the
vicinity of Hudson tower are not the radio transmitting type. They
probably are hooked in directly to Hudson Tower, and eventually will
get hooked into New York CETC.

What is more fascinating is to tune into NY MTA Police's channel. Once
you do that, you can switch off your TV and live the real life story
of a shooting at Fulton St, a lost child on a J train and five other
minor or major mishaps all going on in parallel on a typical evening!

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
From: rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:43:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Danger Grade Crossing
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad

One motorcyclist got his just deserves here in Fort Collins about 7 years ago.
One morning a line of cars was waiting at a grade crossing on Cherry Street
when a man on a motorcycle went around the cars and stopped infront of the
front car in the line waiting for the train. Just as he stopped a hopper car
split the switch on the wye and derailed. The motorcyclist had just enough
time to jump clear as the car overturned and crushed his motorcycle to the
thickness of a sheet of paper.
			
				Roger Mitchell
				Master Mechanic: Ft. Collins Municipal Ry
				Ham Radio: N0MCR
From: jwj2@po.cwru.edu (Jerry W. Jordak)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: SP/SF merger paint scheme spotted
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:45:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: po.jwj2.24
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)

>In article <10296@gollum.twg.com>, nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Just last Friday, 3 April, I was waiting for the Caltrain commuter on San
>> Francisco's peninsula and spotted a GP9 in the Kodak paint job. I thought all
>> the old stuff was gone by now. So who knows how many units of which types
>> still wear that uniform? Where do they live? Feeble minds wanna know.

The Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad in western Oregon has 3 ex-SP SD9's, and
one of them, the 4381, still wears the Kodachrome colors (although without
the SP lettering).

Hope this helps,
-Jer

--
Jerry W. Jordak            The only promises that I know to be true 
a.k.a. Jermaster           Are the promises made from the heart.
(jwj2@po.cwru.edu)                                        --John Mellencamp
From: roller@drutx.ATT.COM (MichaelisPR)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: E-8 in Elkhart (Was: Amtrak's Silver Meteor and Lakeshore Limited)
Summary: The EMD E-8 in Elkhart (w/ NYC 4-8-2 Mohawk #3001) is ex-NYC #4085
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: roller@drutx.ATT.COM (MichaelisPR)
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Denver, CO

A posting by elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema) describes an EMD E-8
of "unknown heritage" displayed in Elkhart, Indiana along with former
NYC 4-8-2 Mohawk #3001 and a variety of ex-NYC passenger cars.

The EMD E-8 in Elkhart was originally New York Central #4085.  Its
most recent use in revenue service was as Jersey Transit #4328.  When
I was tracking down former NYC power a few years ago, this engine was
one of eight surviving ex-NYC E-8's that I was able to locate; I don't
know whether all eight still exist today.

-- Paul Michaelis        roller@drutx.att.com
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: It's hard to love a GE
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:26:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: railnet.LqkRiB1w164w
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 883 6298

elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema) writes:

> Anybody else like GE's?

When I used to work around the B&O railroad, my recollection is
that the crews there generally liked the GE's.  More comfortable
cabs, quieter cabs.  Yes, they loaded up differently from EMD's;
the more competent trainmen understood that it was a difference
and not necessarily a deficiency.

Though as I recall, the ladders were knee-killers!

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From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: AMrail???
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:00:59 GMT
Organization: LA&W RR

Last night on tv, they broadcast the movie FINDERS KEEPERS.  A
significant portion of the flick was set aboard a train pulled by a pair
of "AMrail" F(P?)7/9's.  If memory serves me correctly, these were also
used to pull the "Silver Streak".  Does anyone know if these were in
fact the same units?  Were they used in any other movies?  Based upon
the winterization hatch on the roof of one of the units, and the fact
that the scenery looks like BC and Alberta (even though it was supposed
to be Colorado and Kansas) I suspect these are CP (and/or CN) units
repainted for the movie(s).  I am interested in any info on these.

Thanks to all who post.

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From: rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: SPV (Was Re: RDC's and SPV's?)
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: orbit.7469
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

andradee@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>
>Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know, SPV stands for
>Self Propeled Vehicle. This I am REALLY uncertain of, but I believe that as far
>as the US is concerned, they only ran in the east, maybe as far as Chicago? But
>I could not prove this if asked!
>
>BTW thanks to everyone who responed to my origianal post. It has been real
>enlighting to read all this on the RDC's. Personally, I think that they are
>some of the neatest passenger vehicals produced. If that unoffical running of
>over 100mph is correct, that makes me feel good, because I have 2 models of the
>RDC's and the one that is powered can reach about 120mph scale. I guess they
>could really move. Again thanks....

Doesn't the US DOT or AAR or some government agengy own an SPV-2000 that is 
used for track testing / inspection or something? It appeared in St.Paul 
a few years ago on the Soo Line, and nobody seemed to know anything about it.

-- Dan Meyer

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From: yhshowie@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Howard Wharton)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Car Attacks SP Train
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <11227@mindlink.bc.ca>, Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes...
> 
>On the same note...on Monday, I was pulling into North Bend BC when I saw a
>vehicle approaching the main crossing into town.  Our ditch lights were on and
>we were whistling etc etc etc.  I paniced at first because it looked like a
>fuel tanker truck.  But as he whipped around the gates and in front of us
>(missing us by ONE car length), I caught the licence plate (which was, of
>course, turned into the police), and the following sign on the side of the
>truck:  CLEAN & KLEAR Septic Pumper.
> 
>Yuck!
> 
>(Names have been changed to protect the stinky) :)
> 
>That $75 ticket could have gone to a good truck wash somewhere!
> 
> 
>--
> 
> steve_hooper@mindlink.bc.ca   []  Riding the "High Iron" of
> OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []         CP Rail
> The Great White North in      []
> Vancouver, BC CANADA          [] Opinions are mine, NOT CP's
I think you were being kind on using the word panic.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: jbvb@vax.ftp.com  (James B. VanBokkelen)
Subject: Alco Century 425 active on Springfield Terminal
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: jbvb@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 08:33:43

Passing through Lawrence, MA at 0830 on Wednesday 4/8, I saw an Eastbound
freight setting off at Andover St.  Power was a GT SD 40 and an ex-D&H
C425, mostly in the blue D&H scheme but stencilled MEC on the side.

James B. VanBokkelen		26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA  01880
FTP Software Inc.		voice: (617) 246-0900  fax: (617) 246-0901
From: 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Playing Chicken!!!
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:14:46 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <9339@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>, rtp@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Richard T. Pierce) writes:
> 
> Yesterday, near Brantford, Ontario, there was a VIA train car accident. Four
> people were killed. According to the news, the people driving the car were
> playing chicken with the train. At one point, they by-passed the crossing
> gates to try and beat the train and were struck. All four people in the car
> were killed. There were no injuries to the the crew or passengers of the
> train. The VIA train was using a GO train engine for this run.
> 
> When will people learn that playing chicken in a 2500 pound car against
> a several hundred thousand pound engine is always a losing proposition for
> the car...
> 
> There seems to be an increase of train/car accidents of late. Some accidents
> happen at intersections which do not have railroad signals or crossing guards,
> but many accidents seem to be happening where saftey features are in place.
> 
> Maybe at all intersections, there should be bridges for the cars to go over
> the tracks, but maybe this would only cause people to drive through ditches
> and trees to try and beat the train.

Yea, some guys did this in Michigan too, only without a car. They stayed on
the tracks to the last second, and then jumped, but the one guy didn't jump
quick enough, and needless to say, he won't be doing that again.
He did it on the CSX in Watervliet,Michigan, in front of a fast CP Rail run-
through train. 

I've always been kind of afraid that someone might run around the gates when 
I'm sitting near the tracks watching a 70 MPH frieght roll toward me.
It a car ever got hit, I guess all you could do would put your head between
your legs and kiss your *** goodbye.

Oh well,


Fred Ochs
31ochs@gw.wmich.edu  (vax)
ochs@sol.cs.wmich.edu (unix)
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From: easmith@hemlock.cray.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: North Dakota BN Action
Originator: easmith@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:07:20 CDT


I went up to Grand Forks, North Dakota this past weekend, and now have some
questions about the trains I saw.  

1) I saw several unit coal trains on the way up and back, and one trains' cars
were 5-bay hoppers with MCHX markings, and one of the other trains' cars were
marked SCKX.  Does anyone know what companies these belong to?

2) I also saw a total of 4 SD60M's, and wanted to verify which version of the
front cab windows is the current one.  I saw both the two window version, and
the "Canadian" 4 (or was it 3?) version of the cab.  Which one is BN moving to?

3) I saw hundreds of grain hoppers at the Grand Forks yard, and was wondering
if it was a hub for grain.  (Probably a stupid question.)  Is it for grain
heading to the Pacific, or what?  

Thanks for the info in advance.
-- 
Eric A. Smith 
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Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 19:51:53 EDT
From: <JJE107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: It's hard to love a GE
 <LqkRiB1w164w@railnet.nshore.ORG> <1992Apr8.192925.3745@gw.wmich.edu>

I have also heard the same negative statements made about GEs on CSX in
Pittsburgh.  Most former B&O employees have always been used to the EMD's.
Another point to make is that Cumberland Shops have always maintained EMDs.
I heard one incident where aSeaboard B36-7 broke down on the former B&O and
had to be taken back to the former SBD shops in Waycross,GA because the
Cumberland Shops crews didn't know how to fix the GE. CSX,for a while,was
constantly running GE's on the B&O'sPhiladelphia to Chicago Trailer Trains in
the late 80s and into 1990, but crews complains about rough riding and small
cab space made CSX assign the old Chessie System GP40s and GP40-2s back to the
trailer trains where they run today.  CSX, however, runs a fairly good amount
of C40-8s and 40-8Ws on the B&O. Crew comments have been mixed. The biggest
complaint aboutthe new GE Widenoses is that they were delivered without air
conditioning which is the main reason why they keep the front nose door open in
the summertime.

---------------
Jim Emerson
From: FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET (Ruediger Gaensfuss)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Diesel-electric in Germany (was: Re: TRAVELOGUE ...)
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:44:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: DMSWWU1A.92104.194805FPU08
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany

In article <92104.161610LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET>, Dr. Lutz Massonne
<LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET> says:
>
>Of course you are right about the 201 and 202, I forgot them.
>But what is the 259? I could not find this class in my "Obermayer"
>handbook of German Diesel locomotives.
Well, the "Obermayer" isn't that perfect. 259 001 (first) was an
American 8-wheeld loco, owned by the American Army, but in use for
the DB, too, (Mannheim) in the early seventies. 259 001 (second)
and 259 002 to 005 were five different shunters on proof in Munich
in the first half of the eighties, some of them diesel-electric.

>The same with the Koef II - all I saw listed were diesel-hydraulic or
>diesel-mechanic.
Not Koef (K"of) II, but Koee (K"oe II)

>Or do you mean the Kbs 4072-4077 dual power shunters...
No. I can't tell you the numbers by momory, but there were some
K"oe (maybe Kbe, too) in the fifties, most of them former army-engines.
V16: I'll have a look at home tomorrow.
Ruediger Gaensfuss (FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET) University of Muenster, Germany
From: rhino@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: SP/SF paint jobs.
Keywords: Red, Yellow, Butt Ugly
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 11:49:39 PDT
Reply-To: rhino@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us


   I'll take this time to report a sighting of one of the red and yellow SP
engines.  It was in Santa Cruz about a week and a half ago heading back from
Davenport.  I can't tell you the number or type, but I seem to remember the
words "El Paso" on the cab. (it's like checking the bottoms of coke bottles).
If it passes through town again I'll try to get more info.
  Also, once in a while an engine in SP grey comes through, but it's labled
Cotton Belt and the nose has SSW instead of SP.  Is this common?

-Jim Jensen
rhino@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
From: SPITZBARTH@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU ("Edward Spitzbarth, Coordinator of Networks/PC's")
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Date Nail Question
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:43:00 GMT

Question about a date nail:
 
My girlfriend was wandering along the abandonded right-of-way of the
Chicago & NorthWestern spur into Platteville, WI.  In one of the ties
that were left behind she found a date nail.  On the date nail was
the letter F and below it the letters NB as this:
 
                     F
                     NB
 
(the F is centered above the NB).  Anyone have any idea what this
meant?  The only source of information I could find was an obscure
book called "And Now Its Nail Time", written by Kenneth B. Shaw and
printed in 1972.  While being an interesting book, it is oddly
organized and nowhere near complete.   This book was mentioned in
an old article in Trains magazine from around '76.
 
Does anyone have a better source of info on date nails or can
shed some light on this?
 
Thanks.
 
Ed Spitzbarth
PC Coordinator
University of Wisconsin at Platteville
 
Internet:       spitzbarth@uwplatt.edu
Bitnet:         spitzbarth@uwplatt
From: rfj@alpha.sunquest.com (RICHARD F. JONES)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Rail Freqs.
Keywords: Radio, Frequencies
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:25:00 GMT
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems, Tucson AZ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Greetings!!

Since I have a mobile radio scanner and have a hangup about trains, I 
was wondering if anyone knew how I could go about ascertaining the 
frequencies to listen in on for SP train traffic in Southern Arizona?

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Richard Jones    rfj@alpha.sunquest.com  -  internet
From: JDB6@psuvm.psu.edu (John D. Balogh)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: RR GIF - WM #1204 M-2 Challenger
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:53:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92100.085351JDB6
 <1992Apr6.184923.11368@uc.msc.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

c_and_o_steam.gif is now wm_steam.gif on OTC1.PSU.EDU.
From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: transit saves energy
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:57:35 EST
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Press release from American Public Transit Association

 Increased Transit Use Belongs in National Energy Conservation
Strategy
 To: National Desk, Transportation Writer
 Contact: Chip Bishop of the American Public Transit Association,
          202-898-4114

   WASHINGTON, April 9 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The American Public Transit
Association urged Congress today to promote the use of mass transit
and other forms of ride-sharing in national energy policy
legislation.
   "Mass transit is an inexpensive way to conserve energy," said
Robert W. Batchelder, APTA's chief counsel and deputy executive vice
president - government affairs.  "We feel that any national strategy
to conserve energy and reduce dependence on foreign oil should
promote the use of high-occupancy transportation services such as
transit."
   Batchelders's remarks were offered to the House Surface
Transportation Subcommittee which is considering H.R. 776, the
Comprehensive National Energy Policy Act.
   "APTA supports national energy legislation that increases transit
ridership in order to reduce energy used in transportation,"
Batchelder said.  "Real energy savings come from coaxing people out
of single-occupant vehicles and into rail cars, buses and van pools."
   He said studies show that 300,000 barrels of oil would be saved
each day in the United States if just 10 percent of urban auto
commuting was replaced by transit use.  "Transportation is
responsible for 63 percent of U.S. oil consumption, and oil imports
are nearly 70 percent of our annual trade deficit," he said.
   The legislation could require new transit buses to be equipped
with engines that burn fuels such as methanol and compressed natural
gas.  The association said it strongly supports the $30 million
authorized in the legislation for continued test of alternate fuel
use in transit buses.  It reported that such demonstrations are
underway at dozens of transit systems in 14 states and four Canadian
provinces.
   "This delivery reflects the industry's commitment to exploring
environmentally-sound technology," Batchelder said.  "Alternate fuel
mandates established under the bill should not undercut transit's
ability to reduce energy consumption through increased ridership."
   APTA is the international association of operating transit
authorities, their suppliers and others interested in the advancement
of transit service.
    ------
   Editors: For further information and interviews contact Chip
Bishop of APTA at 202-898-4114.  Copies of Batchelder's statement are
available from APTA on request.
 -0-
 /U.S. Newswire  202-347-2770/
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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: rdc
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:27:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11483
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Dave Pierson writes:
> 
> 
> (marginally related:  reportedly, somewhere in Western Canada, the "school
> bus"
> was actually a railroad car, altho reseved for the kiddies.  The held a
> name_the_car contest & the kids picked:
> 
>                 Budd Wiser.
> 


Yep, that's a car on BC Rail.  It is a standard coach, not a Budd car.  I'll
check for more details and post 'em later.


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 steve_hooper@mindlink.bc.ca   []  Riding the "High Iron" of
 OR      a777@mindlink.bc.ca   []         CP Rail
 The Great White North in      []
 Vancouver, BC CANADA          [] Opinions are mine, NOT CP's