From: mece2b1@elroy.uh.edu (Meyers, David C.)
Subject: Re: Arc Angels / Led Zep
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:04:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.150203.23836@mcc.com>, amck@mcc.com (Alan McKendree) writes...
>In article <1992Aug27.215844.26772@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bx451@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dean C. Wagner) writes:
>>
>>I bought the Arc Angels CD yesterday...
> 
>>-- 
>>Dean Wagner			"why do things have to happen this way
>>bx451@cleveland.freenet.edu	 I felt so much anger
>>				 When they put away Stevie Ray"
>>				   - See What Tomorrow Brings, Arc Angels
> 
> 
>Speaking of which, a couple of weeks ago a DJ here played Led
>Zeppelin's "Ramble On" followed immediately by Arc Angels' "Sweet
>Nadine".  Juxtaposed like that, the, shall we say, "influence", was
>almost overwhelming.  The chord, verse and chorus structure, vocal
>style, and guitar effects are quite (not to say blatantly) similar.

  HMM...well at first listen, I'd have to agree, but at further
 inspection, what they are really playing is actually quite different
from Jimmy Page's riff. Both songs play an E and an A type progression
over and over through out the song with an acoustic. However the actual
riff to "ramble On" is E -D-A-D where Sweet Nadine is E -A.

> 
>To make matters worse, they take a rip from The Who's _Tommy_ album:
> 
>AA:  "love is blind, deaf and dumb..."
>Who:  "Deaf, dumb and blind boy..."  -"Amazing Journey", "Pinball Wizard"

wo..WAIT A MINUTE..this is trying to stretch things a bit too far, not only
is that a coomon phrase about love, but also listen to the radio for a couple
of hours your bound hear numerous songs that seem to borrow off one another
even though they don't, they just use common phrases. Hell if that was true
def lep would appear to steal from everybody..haha


> 
>And to top things off, even the title of this song and some of the
>singing style seems to come from Lou Reed's "Sweet Jane".
> 

How can you say above that it sounds like Zep, then like Lou Reed? I
just plain disagree.

>I like the AAs OK, but has anyone else noticed the old songs embedded
>in this one?  Any explanations (is one of the writer a Led Zep fan or
>closet Who enthusiast, or what?)

Like a lot of Texas bands, Hendrix was probably (one of the) biggest influences
...a la "Angel" which they do a cover of live. I'd have to say their influences
are mostly tradeitional blues. I mean they're more of a chord band, where a lot
of zep tunes relied on the riff. It's often hard to decide if SRV influenced 
them, or they merely influenced by the same people because from same area??? 
Yeah definitely a lot of Hendrix....I am listening to "See What Tomorrow Brings"

> 
>Just wondering,
> 
>Alan

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