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From: gummi@rhi.hi.is (Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Villa will win it
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:46:37 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer

In <C198E2.58C@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> u2ard@csc.liv.ac.uk (A.R. Distefano) writes:

> It's got to be Villa for the top spot come May. 

Of course.  They've got Dean Saunders, Ray Hougton and Steve Staunton.
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From: altizer@figaro (Robert Altizer)
Subject: Re: #############  UK fans, PLEASE GO!  ##
Reply-To: altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:22:16 GMT

In article 1416@dsbc.icl.co.uk, Dave Parry <dvp@dsbc.icl.co.uk> () writes:
>No, I suggest you go and form your own group -
>rec.sport.lets.bore.the.arse.off.people.talking.about.Albanian.
>second.division.results.
>
>Football (not soccer!!!) is a game of passion and it incites passion
               ^^^^^^

Oh come on Dave, you Brits coined the term "soccer" (nee Association 
Football) in the 19th century to distinguish the game from the equally
popular Rugby League Football.  On the whole I agree with your sentiment,
and would gladly share a brew with you to discuss whatever-you-want-to-
call-it.

Now, mind you, anyone who drinks anything but Stroh's (fire-brewed in
Detroit, USA) is so weak in mental capacity as to make anything they
would say totally worthless, but ....

(Oh, sorry - I guess that last bit belongs in rec.sport.beer.drinking)

>amongst it's supporters. Most of the people you see flaming each other
>here will quite happily sit down with the same people they flame and
>talk seriously about football, but sometimes it's fun to wind people
>up about their team - that's part of being a football fan. We can be
>intellectual about it, but you've got to have a laugh too, haven't
>you?
>
>Regards
>
>Dave
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From: morgoth@dist.dist.unige.it (Baudino Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re: top ten team in the world
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:27:05 GMT
Organization: DIST - Universita` di Genova
Distribution: world
Reply-To: morgoth@dist.dist.unige.it (Baudino Alberto)
NNTP-Posting-Host: dist.dist.unige.it

  About Maradona , in Italy we can't forget his great ability in sniffing
  cocaine and his boring caprices .....
       

    Alberto Baudino 
   
  Up Juventus !!!! Platini was greater than Maradona!!!!!

Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:20411 soc.culture.celtic:8906
From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Irish Cup 1st round results
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:51:52 GMT
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

--


The weather played havoc with the weekend's Irish Cup ties.  Roughly half the
ties were postponed.

Results

Ballyclare 2 Banbridge 0
Carrick 2 Bangor 4
Glentoran 0 Portadown 0
Cliftonville 1 H&W Welders 0
Dundela 2 Newry 2
Distillery 6 BT 0
Glenavon 0 Ballymena 3
Limavady 3 Roe Valley 0
Chimney Corner 0 Drumaness 1

The other ties were all postponed.

The visit of league leaders Portadown to league champions Glentoran was
match of the day but it failed to live up to expectations.  Carrick's
heroics in the Co Antrim shield took their toll as an injury hit side
collapsed in the second half and lost 4-2 to Bangor.  Sammy McQuiston hit
a hatrick as Ballymena shocked the holders at Mourneview Park.  The Lurgan
side are badly missing last year's hero Gerard McMahon who's now at Tottenham.
Newry needed a late Hawkins equaliser to snatch a replay against Dundela.
Given that the East Belfast side are one of the top junior sides and indeed
a former winner of the trophy a win here would not have been a shock.  Newry
should just about scrape through in the replay.  Cliftonville just made
it against the welders while Distillery had a lot to spare against British
Telecom.

Assuming the weather improves the postponed ties will be settled this week.
Larne v Crusaders appears to be the pick of them but Linfield v Coleraine
should also be a cracker.  Omagh v Ballinamallard should be a very interesting
local derby.

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

  On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
  facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
  relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
  find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
  to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
								   Nick Hornby
From: philipn@bmdhh202.bnr.ca (Philip Nortey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: The State Of English Soccer
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:21:01 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK

We have been getting live coverage of Italian soccer in England for the
last few months and I have been disturbed at the lack of technical ability
and skill that the vast majority of players in the English league have
compared to their Italian counterparts.

This is not to say that Italian teams will always beat English teams. In
fact, English teams such as Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa,
Ipswich Town and more recently Man Utd have all gone into Europe and won
trophies in the recent past. There was a point where English teams actually
dominated the European club competition scene but the point is, they all
struggle to make it past the first round now.

It seems as though the superior skill of the European clubs is beginning to
tell against the 'lob the ball into the penalty area' philiosophy that is
the scurge of English soccer. Having played for Middlesex county alongside
some now very well known (and highly paid) Premier League players a few years
ago, I can attribute the English style of soccer to the way that youngsters
are taught to play as soon as they begin to play serious soccer. All the skill
is there to begin with but this is soon replaced with a 'get stuck in' and 'get
that ball into the penalty area' attitude to the game.

My fear is that unless things change soon, English soccer could go downhill
when judged on a European and worldwide level. It is already very difficult
to beat so called 'weak' teams such as Cameroon. Those of you who watched
the 1990 world cup closely will remember how the Endland defence was cut to
ribbons by some very skillful play .....

- Phil
From: pd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Peter Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Brighton (FA Cup)
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:01:43 GMT

In <1993Jan22.104259.25926@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andyj@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy James) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.182250.26563@unislc.uucp>, ppj@unislc.uucp (Peter Jones) writes:
>> When is this being played? Our local paper said that Aston Villa played
>> Brighton and beat them is this correct ?
>> 
>> Peter jones

>	Man Utd (who ?) play Brighton and Hove Albion in the fourth
>round of the FA Cup on 23/01/92 at Old Trafford, (My prediction 2-1 to
>the Albion). In a replay of the 1983 Cup Final, which United were lucky
>to win after a replay. Your local paper probably meant to say Aston Villa beat
>Bristol Rovers (3-1) in the third round.

>	Andy James
> 

Brighton lost 1-0 from an excellent Giggs free kick. United didn't look that
good. OK they didn't have Hughes, Cantona or the former Soviet whose name I
can't spell, but they did have Giggs, Ince, Sharp, Gillespie etc.  Half way
through the second half I thought we might take United to a replay, but it was
not to be!
	At least it got our Cup Final appearance on the telly again and made
us a bit of dosh (no win bonses!).


	Peter
From: Tricky <mfd91@ecs.soton.ac.uk >
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool Fans
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:19:19 GMT
Originator: mfd91@drayton


   Man Utd and Arsenal supporters fickle ? Of Course they are . The
reason for their lower attendances is due to ground improvements as
well . Never-the-less I'll tar them with the same brush as Liverpool -
fairweather the lot of 'em .

Mike
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From: Dave Parry <dvp@dsbc.icl.co.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool hate Man U fans ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:16:02 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berks, UK
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Patrick McBratney (se34@nerva.cs.qub.ac.uk) wrote:

: In my years of being a Liverpool fan it was always the Man U fans who had  
: the "inferiority complex". In the many recent years when Man U have been a  
: very ordinary side most of them turned their attention to hating Liverpool  
: instead of supporting their own mediocre club (who don't deserve their  
: reputation of being one of the great clubs any more because, apart from a  
: few FA cup wins, they've done sod all since '67).
: Its sad to say that'll probably be the case with the Liverpool fans if  
: this poor form turns out to be as lengthy as that of the Man U slump.
But who's laughing now pal?

Dave

P.S. As you obviously want to prolong the "I hate United/I hate
Liverpool" crap, I'll tell you of another time I laughed myself sick -
Liverpool 0 Arsenal 2 (last minute goal - Oops, where's Liverpool's
title gone??!!)

Have a nice day!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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From: gummi@rhi.hi.is (Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool hate Man U fans ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:28:44 GMT

I'm a Liverpool fan and I used to hate Manchester United fans but after
I killed one of them I felt much better.

>Why would United have an inferiority complex. United pull bigger crowds
>than Liverpool in spite of all their lucky successes.

Lucky!?  For almost 30 years?  And, of course, MU winning the FA cup
quite a few times wasn't lucky.  Pure genius, right?

>Yeah, I hope the slump continues. Division 1 awaits them. They used to
>belong in the lower division in the 1950's. Time to go back HOME.

When was the last time Manchester United was in division 2? :)  

Gummi
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From: madmax@maths.tcd.ie (Mark Taylor)
Subject: Re: Liverpool Board Meeting
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:03:39 GMT

zuvec@westminster.ac.uk (Kostaky Savva) writes:

>074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
>team needs is a little continuity. What the team really needs is a ball winner. 
>Someone along the lines of Souness or McMahon. Then maybe Souness can invest in
>a striker. That is if he stays. 


And who sold McMahon ??


Mark

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From: haberm@imag.fr (Peter Habermehl)
Subject: Re: Girondins de Bordeaux
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:22:15 GMT

In article <1k44nbINNmne@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> franck Daphnis <fd10@cornell.edu> writes:
>Well it could be translated as:  The Girondins of (or from) Bordeaux.  
>The Gironde is one of France provincial regions of which Bordeaux is a
>city.  The name was adopted probably to indicate that the club was not
>only that of the city, but also of the entire region.  French clubs
>greatly depend on public assistance to balance their budgets, and this
>strategy has been used by many clubs (Montpellier, Brest) to enlarge the
>number of possible contributors (in this case the city of Bordeaux and
>the Gironde larger region).

The Gironde is also a river which runs through Bordeaux.

					  Peter
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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Results 20-January 1993
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:53:07 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Scottish Results 20-January 1993
--------------------------------

Scottish Cup 3rd Round Replay
.............................

Celtic 1 	Clyde 0
(Coyne)

Premier Division
................

Hearts 2  St johnstone 0
(Robertson,
Baird)

1st Division			2nd Division
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Cowdenbeath 0  Meadowbank 0	Arbroath 2  Stranraer 1

 
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From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re: World Cup hosts
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:43:08 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs179.bnr.co.uk

In article <9301211405.AA11242@cs.utexas.edu> JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU writes:
>-------------------
>their rules on pitch-widths just so that they could get one stadium over
>another.  Reference: Selecting "narrow" Giants Stadium, New Jersey over
>-------------------
>
>Garry,
>
>	They're talking about 6 feet in width and 6 in length. You must be 
>joking if you feel that those 6 feet are *crucial* to the game. Remember a 
>legal field is from 50x100 yds to 100x130 yds. FIFA recommends that all full 
>internationals be held on field 68-80 x 110-120 yds.

All very well, but those 6 feet either side will make a difference. A pitch
68 yards wide would be considered very narrow in professional football,
and somewhat constricting. I remember reading that Arsenal had one of the
narrowest pitches in the English Premier League, and it's 71/72 yards
wide. Playing top class football on a pitch 66 yards across is going to
make it hard on teams with a good passing game based on wide players.
Seems to me that it'll suit teams that like getting stuck in and hoofing
long balls forward. Jack Charlton, Come on down!!!

-- 
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From: wadhwa@cs.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Premier League standings???
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:58:53 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Could anyone send me the current Premier League standings?
Thanks.

P.S. Are there any Everton fans out there?
From: Steve@UK
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ############# UK fans, PLEASE GO! ####
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:35:31 GMT
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.


> >John B at the DIT
> You still don't get it? English soccer is technically and tactically INFERIOR
> to European soccer. It's a lot of trouble first having to get through all 
> that only-important-to-you crap, so why don't you just create an own newsgroup?
> Or aren't there enough English soccer-fans to do that?
> 
> Greetings from Europe!
> 
> 
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You are really pissing me off!  I have never known someone spew forth as much shit as you do. Now, one and for all, and please let this be the last word on the subject, UK fans are NOT going to move from the group. So if you're not happy, FUCK OFF somewhere else!!!!!

Love UK!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: herb@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Markus Herb)
Subject: Re: African footballer of 1992
Reply-To: herb@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:44:35 GMT
Keywords: Africa,Sane, Ranking,Nuernberg

What happened to Sane (Senegal?) from 1.FC Nuernberg (1.Bundesliga in 
Germany)? ---  I remember him as an outstanding player!!! In my opinion  
better than Yeboah (at least 2 years ago)!


Markus



In article <9301231424.AA20400@ersboda.cs.umu.se> dvlkhh@cs.umu.se writes:
> I don't know if this have been posted:
> (Forwarded message9
> 
> Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:51:26 GMT
> From: Francois Jaillet <jaillet@DEGAS.EMSE.FR>
> Subject:      Best African players
> 
> For 50 african journalists and France Football
> 
>  1. Pele (Ghana - Marseille)                    198 points
>  2. Weah (Liberia - Paris-SG)                   161
>  3. Yeboah (Ghana - Eintracht Frankfurt)         64
>  4. Traore (Ivory Coast - ASEC Abidjan)          36
>  5. Gouamene (Ivory Coast - Raja Casablanca)     33
>  6. N'Doram (Chad - FC Nantes)                   30
>  7. P. Ndlovu (Zimbabwe - Coventry)              24
>  8. Yekini (Nigeria - Vitoria Setubal)           20
>  9. K. Bwalya (Zambia - PSV Eindhoven)           15
> 10. Daoudi (Marocco - Wydad Casablanca)          14
> 11. Fofana (Ivory Coast - Monaco)                13
>     Keshi (Nigeria - Strasbourg)                 13
>     Owubokiri (Nigeria - Boavista)               13


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> Francois
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: USSF F@#$ing IDIOTS!!
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:36:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.135943.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> 
> No cunt is stupid enough to watch the crap game with all its comercial breaks
> so that the players can take another hit of steroids cause they are all fat
> unfit bastards, and the rest of the world does not want to know about the
> superbowl.
> Please piss off with your CRAP FOOTBALL now !!!
> 
> 
> 
> Hamish, the mad Pict fae Scotland, author of CRAP FOOTBALL, SON OF CRAP
> FOOTBALL, ETC
> 
Hamish,

you are truly an ambassador for *The* University, in Strathclyde and indeed for
the country as a whole.  It's no wonder certain sections of the net wish to
distance themselves from the British offering if this is supposed to be
considered, well written comment.  OK the original posting may have been
misplaced but to resort to juvenile cursing to make the point does not help
your cause, there is no need for it and as we know, it's not big - nor is it
clever!  Please cut it  out.


Daresbury, Dan.
CBAR40@VAXA.STRATH.AC.UK
From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Sheffield United
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article 26593@westminster.ac.uk, nydec@westminster.ac.uk (Charles Heath) writes:
>I would just like to leave this little note to point out that Sheffield
>United are going to get stuffed when we play them in the fifth round
>of the F.A.Cup. 
>
>	That is all I want to say!
>
>		Bye!
>
> Sorry this isn't a discussion but there is nothing to discuss. Plain and
>simple!
>
>+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
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>|      -- Chig! --        |   there's a way there's a place to be. Where      |
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Hope you are correct. You can stuff them for all I care !!!


Up the Owls


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			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

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From: franck Daphnis <fd10@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Girondins de Bordeaux
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:51:07 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:55:09 GMT

Well it could be translated as:  The Girondins of (or from) Bordeaux.  
The Gironde is one of France provincial regions of which Bordeaux is a
city.  The name was adopted probably to indicate that the club was not
only that of the city, but also of the entire region.  French clubs
greatly depend on public assistance to balance their budgets, and this
strategy has been used by many clubs (Montpellier, Brest) to enlarge the
number of possible contributors (in this case the city of Bordeaux and
the Gironde larger region).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ifenton@crc.ac.uk (I. Fenton)
Subject: wot points did last year's relegation teams get (div1, england)
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:55:28 GMT

the title sez it all.  with all this rather silly talk about liverpool
going down, down, down, i wanna know how many points the teams that went
down last year had.  hence we could say for sure (?!) how likely it is
that the grate soooooness can take the mightey reds down.

i don't think that we should split this newsgroup up.

i miss denise...

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