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From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: INFOSERVER going into mount verification
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:10:42 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

I'm attempting to upgrade a MicroVax 2000 from VMS 5.4 to VMS 5.5 using an
Infoserver and CD-rom as the update medium.  The upgrade gets as far as the
start of Phase II and displays the message:

"Now copying over the VMS and DecWindows v5.5 required save set"

Then it starts getting the following pair of errors repeatedly:

%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, DAD1: is offline.  Mount verification in progress.
%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, DAD1: has completed mount verification.

I'm not seeing much of any load on my network (<10%), we have successfully
upgraded our cluster and two microvax II's this way (via infoserver) and from
this disk.  So we are confident the infoserver and disk are good and the
network isn't bogging down.

I tried the upgrade this morning and after a while the upgrade failed.  So I
tried againg and still I get these series of errors.  Where can I look to
diagnose this problem?
-- 
   Don Roberts                   Internet:  don@beckman.com
   Beckman Instruments, Inc.     Phone:     714/961-3029
   2500 Harbor Bl. Mailstop X-12 FAX:       714/961-3351
   Fullerton, CA  92634          Disclaimer:  Blame me, not Beckman.
   So, how many hospitals HAVE been built by organizations of secular
   humanists and atheists, anyway?
From: winston@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Monitor bug?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:47:33 GMT
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab

Folks --

I'm running a VAX 8700 on VMS A5.5.  This is what I get when I try 
to get MONITOR to summarize the last several days.  (This first 
turned up when I was trying to get it to do a day at a time, but
it seems to fail pretty reliably.)

I do

$ MONITOR /INPUT=SSRL01_MON.DAT /NODISPLAY /SUMMARY=YESTERDAY.SUM -
   ALL_CLASSES,DISK/ITEM=ALL -
        /beginning="05-SEP-1992 08:00" -
        /ending="09-SEP-1992 07:00"

and get back

%MONITOR-E-BEGNLEND, beginning time not earlier than ending time

beginning dates earlier than 04-SEP-1992 are properly recognized.

Am I making some silly mistake, or have I found a MONITOR bug,
and if so, is it fixed in 5.5-1?

Thanks,

-- Alan

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 Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory, Stanford, California 415/926-3056
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From: richard@npri6.npri.com (Richard Head)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:36:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

mcdonald@CMRSD.NRL.NAVY.MIL (Patrick McDonald) writes:

#Hey, RIchard.  NPRI wouldn't happen to be under the flight path to National
#airport would it?  You seem to be suffering from delayed stress syndrome...


Hey, wow, like my name is Patrick T. McDonald, and I can use an editor
and post to the net, and still demonstrate a .sig that is longer than
my dick and my attention span combined!


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richard@npri6.npri.com  <Richard Head>
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Maximum number of parameters in a link command
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 22:57:03 GMT

In article <9209151906.AA23318@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, MCMAHON@AC.GRIN.EDU ("McMahon,Brian D") writes:
>Says Tang Sammy <sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk!a00670
>0@HPLABS.HPL.HP.COM>,
>
>> $ link /map=ilpd /full /trace/nodebug/exec=$@ lpd.obj,-
>>          config.obj,-
>>          util.obj,-

>> %DCL-W-DEFOVF, too many command procedure parameters - limit to eight
>>          baseline.obj,-
>>  inet.obj, lpd/opt, sys$library:ucx$ipc/lib
>>  
>> It seems that DCL has a preset limit on the number of parameters in
>> a DCL command. If it's true, can I adjust it to fit my need?
>
>The limitation is not in LINK.  Notice that your error message is coming
>from DCL, not from LINK, and that it refers to a "command procedure."  I'll
>bet that if you type SHOW SYMBOL LINK, you will find that it's defined to
>execute some site-specific preprocessor.

I'll bet that if you supply a valid argument to the /EXEC switch the
command would have a much better chance of working, too. What the
heck is "$@" supposed to represent?

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Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
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marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: ASCII Characters from Sixel Screen Dumps?
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:32:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Anybody out there have a method for pulling ASCII characters out
	of Sixel screen dump files (perferably with location information)? 
	I'm interested in something for VMS systems running either VWS, 
	DECWindows *or* MOTIF...

(What is this with Sixel in the last couple of weeks?  :-) )

Sixel format is a method for representing bitmaps using ASCII G0 characters
(i.e., 7-bit non-control characters).

In one sense, your question is meaningless - there's nothing to extract
because a Sixel file already IS (made of) ASCII characters.

I suppose what you want to do is read the characters that were on the screen
being dumped.  This isn't a matter of "extraction"; it's a matter of recog-
nition.  If you have a character recognizer that is reasonably flexible, it
would probably be a straightforward matter to convert the Sixel files into
a bitmap format it could read - presumably, something like what it would
normally get from a scanner.  (If you are seriously interested, the sixjet
program I posted recently would be a good start.  For a suitable fee :-),
I'd even consider making the requisite modifications.)

Or you could print the Sixel file, then put it in the scanner.  Given the
speed of character recognition programs I've seen, this additional step would
have only a minor effect on the total time required for the operation.

							-- Jerry

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Known Image confusion
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:58:11 GMT

In article <716@mtinews.mti.com>, adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) writes...
>Here's a puzzler.  Anybody ever seen F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE and INSTALL this
>confused?

What does $ DIR/FULL reveal?  My guess is the file itself doesn't exist
(the directory entry points to a nonexistant file), or in other words the
file was deleted but the directory entry wasn't.

-Mike
From: PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU (Rich Parmalee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Is it possible for set prompt to do this?
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:19:48 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I want to be able to have something like the following come up for my prompt:

dev:[top_level.cur_sub_directory]
prompt>

I have been able to get the directory to come up but have been unable to have
it automatically update the prompt. I have a feeling that this can't be done but 
I was noticing that I was able to have this type of prompt on the unix system.

I have tried just having the directory name be my prompt through the various
cd.com files that are floating around but I like a short prompt so my commands
don't go 3 lines long. 

Thank-you for any help.  

--
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* Rich Parmalee                                 PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU *
* Western Connecticut State University in beautiful Danbury, CT.               *
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From: michael@major.ucnv.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Sysman and dual passwords.
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:16:00 GMT
Organization: University College of Northern Victoria
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Has anyone experienced a problem with sysman when using an account with
a dual password. We are having problems since installing a new system disk.
(Yes it did work beforehand). Now we get refused remote access to other nodes
on the cluster when we do a "SET ENVIRONMENT/CLUSTER" and then try some 
commands.

eg. 
$ mcr sysman
SYSMAN> set envir/cluster
%SYSMAN-I-ENV, current command environment:
	Clusterwide on local cluster
	Username MICHAEL will be used on nonlocal nodes

SYSMAN> do dir
%SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node BASIL
-SMI-E-BADACTRL, remote access control info invalid
%SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node POLLY
-SMI-E-BADACTRL, remote access control info invalid
%SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MAJOR
Directory DSK1J:[MICHAEL]
.
.
.
ETC

Note that the command you key in always works on the node you are logged into
and single password accounts work fine. As previously mentioned this did
work. Can anyone help.

					cheers mike
michael@major.ucnv.edu.au
From: HOLDREGE+_MP%A1%PacifiCare@mcimail.com (Matthew Holdrege)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Allowing DecServer terminals to use HP9000's
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:05:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


> In article <1992Sep8.190051.1587@candle.uucp>, root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian) writes...
>A VMS system has over 200 terminals connected via DecServer200/300/500's
>to a VAX/VMS system using LAT over ethernet.  They are adding an HP9000
>system running HP-UX and want to know the best way to allow those
>terminals to use the HP and VMS systems.

We have a similar situation on a larger scale. We added Control Data's 
Ascent*Link LAT product on the HP. This gives us 256 LAT ports on the HP. 
However we have about 250 users plus over 50 LAT printers. So I forced the 
users who are on TCP/IP capable servers to use TELNET when connecting to 
the HP and LAT when using the Vax. I did this with LAT group codes.

The users on the LAT only servers have the special group code enabled. This 
allows them LAT access to the HP. The users on dual-protocol servers do not 
have the special LAT group code enabled. When these users enter "C HP" the 
server first tries LAT. It can't see the LAT service because it doesn't 
have the group code enabled. So it then automatically tries to resolve the 
name "HP" with the nameserver. It then establishes a telnet connection with 
the HP.

The other option is to trade in all your "LAT only" servers for 
dual-protocol models. We have dozens of Decserver 500's and it would have 
cost too much to do this. In our case software presented a better solution 
than hardware. As always, your mileage may vary. 8-)
============================================================================
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Pacificare Health Systems    holdrege@eisner.decus.org
From: CAPTANSKI33@SNYCORVA.BITNET (CHRIS TANSKI)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: News
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.bitnet. Can someone give me
the name of a program I can get via FTP that allows someone on BITNET. To
read usenet news. Actually, I'm on internet but we don't have an internet
name. I am on a VAX running VMS5.4-3. Thanks

Chris Tanski
From: jhall@dante.nmsu.edu (HALL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Zmodme
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:35:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM

Hello, I am looking for a PD Zmodem for my microvax 3100.

If anyone has one could you please mail me.  Thanks

jhall@nmsu.edu

ps. I dont read this group so mail would be appreciated.

thanks
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: VAX Operations Manual (continued)....
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:57:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Michael Pyle writes:

>That said, I can provide the manual in the following formats:
>
>...   
>Postscipt
>...
>
>To upload ANY of the above formats to comp.os.vms would require that
>the file be UUENCODED.

Not true.  Since PostScript is ASCII text, it can be posted directly.  Moreover, 
VMS_SHARE would nicely chop it up into manageable pieces that anyone with a VMS 
system could recombine to create the document.  I'd like to suggest that 
approach to Michael.

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 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: LSE font on SONY Trinitron, how change?
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:21:48 GMT
Reply-To: sharone@shar.zko.dec.com (Sharon Eikenberry)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Besides toggling between the big/little fonts, have you tried toggling between
condensed and normal fonts as well?

--Sharon Eikenberry			! eikenberry@tle.enet.dec.com
  LSE Developer
  Digital Equipment Corporation
  
  Opinions are my own.
From: JBP@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU (Father Pomeroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How find out if a file is open for another process?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:00:44 GMT
Organization: The Internet


 I feel this should be obvious, but I cannot find it.
 We have a need to arrange for single user access to a file. Multiple
copies of the file can be arranged. We wish to check whether someone has
file1.dat open; if so let's try file2.dat etc until we find an available
copy.
 I've seen a function that determines whether a file is open by another
user, but now I can't locate it. May be in th manual, but I can't find
it.
 Suggestions welcome. I will summarize if it seems useful.
 Joe
 
 Joe Pomeroy
 Vax Sys Mgr
 Holy Cross College
 Worcester, Mass.

 JBP@HLYCROSS  on BITNET
 JBP@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU  on Internet
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Known Image confusion
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:29:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>$ SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGE=ALL
>$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE("DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE","KNOWN")
>%SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
>\DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE\
>$ DIRECTORY DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE
>
>Directory DISK:[DIR]
>
>MYFILE.EXE;1
>
>
>Total of 1 file.
..stuff deleted...
>Now, an INSTALL REPLACE works just fine.  The annoying part is that my
>command procedure which is trying to install such a file tries to use
>F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE to determine if it should do an ADD or a REPLACE

I know this doesn't answer the question, and I apologize, but it *does* obviate 
the need for an answer.  Always do a REPLACE.  If there is no known image for 
the file referenced in the REPLACE command, INSTALL converts the replace into a 
CREATE.  This way, you don't need to check to see if the file is already known.

That said, now let me suggest an answer to your question.  INSTALL is a tad 
peculiar.  I suspect that a previous version ;1 of MYFILE was made a known file 
and deleted somehow, then the current version ;1 created.  I suspect this 
because INSTALL says "no version obtained for MYFILE".  Since the file had been 
deleted, but the entry not removed, INSTALL gave you the messages it did.

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 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
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From: boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Booting LAVC MVII from Vax 4 DSSI disk?
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:06:53 GMT
Reply-To: boardman@cancer.unm.edu
Organization: UNM Cancer Center


    Well, we managed to get our system moved from our old RA81 disks to our
  New RF73 DSSI disks (Vax 4000-200, VMS v 5.5), and even got the new Queue
  Manager to use the new disk (Thanks: Wolfgang Moeller & Bob Comarow).
    Now we're having problems trying to get a LAVC clustered MicroVax II to
  boot.  After we finally got the queue manager running on the RF73 system
  disk, so that we could dismount & spin down the RA81's, attempting to boot
  the LACV'ed MVII would start the 2...1...0 countdown, but it would hang
  after the 2..., and decnet messages would spit out on the boot node - it
  was still insisting on booting from the RA81!.  Spinning up the old RA81
  system disk did result in the MVII booting, but not completely, since the
  job controller was not running (according to the boot message).  After it
  sort of came up, checking by doing a "SHOW DEVICES" revealed that the new
  DSSI devices were not there!  Now, when we first intalled the 2 RF73 drives
  and the TF85 tape drive, we thought we would be clever and set their DSSI
  node name to "CANCER", the same as our VAX 4000-200.  Of course, then we
  couldn't access them because the 4000 complained about a "node name
  conflict".  So, we had to set the DSSI node names to something different.
  Now it appears that when AUTOCONFIGURE runs on the MVII, it only finds the
  devices that appear as "CANCER$devname" and not these new DSSI devices with
  a different nodename prefix to the device name.

    So, how do we get the MVII to see the new RF73 disks and boot from them?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: weikl@ee3ds1.ilt.fhg.de (Dr.B.Weikl)
Subject: Re: System disk shadowing
Reply-To: weikl@ilt.fhg.de
Organization: ilt-fhg
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:17:47 GMT


 Tom DiMartino (TDIMARTI@BENTLEY.BITNET) writes:
> I'm about to shadow my system disk, an RA90.  We have a VAX 6520 running
> VMS V5.4-2.  All other disks are already shadowed.  Does anyone know of any
> "gotchas" that I should be aware of? 

When booting you have to specify one member of the shadow set as the boot device. Be cautious to shutdown your system when this disk is not a full member of the shadow disk (merging or worse copying). Your system may not reboot. If this does happen try another system disk shadow set member in the boot prompt. If this does not help you have to go and get your last image backup. One thing that might help here is to make an image backup from one member (which is probably OK) to another one under standalone ba



ckup.

>                                       My volume shadowing manual mentions
> that "standalone backup is incompatible with shadow sets"  What is the
> preferred method of performing standalone backups once the system disk is
> shadowed?  The volume shadowing manual is unclear on this.  My guess would
> be that I would boot from a "stand-alone" boot file which I must create.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated

How to perform a standalone backup: shutdown your node when all members of the shadow set are full members, start standalone backup, backup/restore one member of the shadow set. When restoring you have to boot from this member and mount the shadow set mentioning this member as the first one.

Hope this helps.

Bruno

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: mark@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Mark Van Overbeke)
Subject: VS2000 as an X-server
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:23:33 GMT

Net folk!

  I need to speak (mail is speaking??? ;-)) with someone who has a
working VAXstation 2000 running the VAXELN-TOOLKIT.  I have a 2000 I
want to use as an X display station but have not yet come up with the
correct configuration with ebuild.  If anyone could supply me with a
working configuration and how it was built, I would greatly appreciate
it.  I have built about 12 different kernals today, and only once did I
get something that would allow the sys$system:decw$startlogin.exe to put
up the digital logo but I got no login box.  Thanks.

-- 
Mark Van Overbeke                   Systems Software Programmer
Computing Services                  BITNET:    Mark@UMNMOR.BITNET   (VMS)
University of Minnesota, Morris     INTERNET:  Mark@caa.mrs.umn.edu (VMS) 
Morris, MN   56267           (612) 589-6378    mark@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Ultrix)
From: neill_clift@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Sysman and dual passwords.
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:03:31 GMT
Reply-To: neill_clift@hicom.lut.ac.uk
Organization: Hicom Sevices

In article <01GOMJYZJ8C200005H@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes:
>Secondary passwords are not more secure than a single password.  They seem
>like it, but just make your minimum password length twice its current value
>and disable the secondary password requirement.  If you are concerned about

I dont agree with this. The way that VMS currently bashes your password into a
quadword puts in quite a bit of degeneracy. Its not as bad as it used to be
(with algorithm #2) but its still there. Two passwords of 8 chars would be more
secure than a single 16 char one. Of couse this is all useless to the bad guys
as passwords that are greater than six characters long are going to take a long
time to break.

Ok. Jump all over me now.
                             Neill (Mr picky today).