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From: barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber)
Subject: Re: Highway 54 at 55 is open again.
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Distribution: triangle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:52:12 GMT


In article <sasrer.722098348@cinnamon> you write:
>barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov17.222606.18335@rti.rti.org> wgr@rti.rti.org writes:

>>Uh-oh, don't get me started...  One difference here, though, the 
>>tailgaters are definitely endangering the lives of those in front,
                 ----------
>>as well.  Not only stupid, but criminal, it seems to me.
>
>And you don't think those that run across railtracks are not endangering the
>lives of those on the train? A car can cause a train to jump the track,
                                    ---

In general, I think the person running the track is taking most of the
                                                        ----
risk on themselves, while the tailgater has an even break (possibly even 
an advantage, given momemtum and direction) with the car in front of them.  

>endangering the humans on board, and possibly causing other damage (depends 
                                      --------
>upon what they are hauling: sometimes tankards of flammable liquids).
>
>So, yes, there is a difference: but the end result is that lives are endangered
>either way....

I agree, wholeheartedly.

For the most part, it is apparent that tailgaters do not view their
behavior as life-threatening, to themselves OR their road-neighbors.  
This is, in my mind, a dangerous, criminal, and, for that matter, 
a relatively stupid position, considering the minor benefit gained, 
relative to the potential cost of disaster.

Scott

Scott Barber	  "I voted for the crazy, bozo, ozone men."
barber@jazz.concert.net		"What is the freedom of the most
MCNC, RTP, NC, BVD 	 	 free?  To act rightly!" --Goethe
From: bobschulien@cup.portal.com (Robert John Schulien)
Newsgroups: triangle.general
Subject: Re: Info on Interactive Video Systems?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 21:58:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Another unit that doesn't have the name recognition as the CD-I unit is the
CDTV unit from Commodore.  Neither unit is selling very well, even though
Phillips is spending who knows how much more money advertising their unit
over Commodore.  Commodore does have an interesting ad comparing the two 
machines, which I think is well done.  Spend a little extra $$$ and you can
get a disk drive and keyboard to hook up to the CDTV and get at the computer
inside of it.  I don't have either one, but the CDTV sounds like a better
buy.  (Yeah right.  Just like Beta is better than VHS.  Look who won that
one.  :-()  Unfortuneatly, it seems like developers are bending over back-
wards for the CD-I unit which probably means it will come out on top in the
end.
Bob Schulien      bobschulien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: triangle.general
From: wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu (Bill Madden)
Subject: Re: Sound Quality in Dean Dome
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: triangle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:39:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.200540.4948@samba.oit.unc.edu> sodenn@med.unc.edu (Sheila O. Denn) writes:
>I am afraid that sound quality has consistently been a problem in the Dean
>Dome.  I attended one of the very first concerts to be presented there (I
>think it was David Bowie), and the sound was just awful.  At the time

Yeah, this was the first and list concert that I attended at the 
Dean Smithsonion. It was Spring 87, Bowie's insipid Glass Spider tour,
with cheap theatrics and a 4 story stage. 
The sound was was terrible!

>(this would have been '86 or '87) some talk was bandied about on doing
>something to improve it, but the last post indicates that this never
>happened.
> I think it would involve putting up some kind of temporary shield under
>the dome so that sound wouldn't get up there and bounce around so badly. 
>I am no physicist, so please don't flame me if this guess is way off the
>mark on physical feasibility :)

Quite useless, IMO, the place was built to hold hordes of ppl for Chapel
Hill basketball games, not at all for acoustics. Mungy R&R was meant for
the old Cradle or San Francisco's Matrix of old, doncha know better
chance for early hearing loss :^>

Wm

>
>
>Sheila O. Denn
>denn.msalan2@med.unc.edu


-- 
Bill Madden
wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu
No icon tact
Newsgroups: triangle.general
From: wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu (Bill Madden)
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Keywords: Greensboro 12/4 ?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:30:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.214037.29132@seq.uncwil.edu> hunnicu@seq.uncwil.edu (jeff hunnicutt) writes:
> This really isn't Triangle related but it's as close as I can get.
> I've heard that Bela Fleck will be playing in Greensboro on 12/4,
> at a place called Sternberger Auditorium.    
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny this? I dearly want go but can't seem to
> any info way down here in Wilmington. Calls to information desks at
> UNCG provide no info. If you know anything please let me know asap!
>
> Thanks.

Yes, as been said Sternberger Aud. is @ Guilford College.
Bela Fleck&/tones will be there Dec 4th.

Here are other December dates:

Dec 5   Trax, Charlotsville VA
Dec 6   Flynn Theater, Burlington VT
Dec 7   Raoul's, Portland ME
Dec 8   Toads Place, New Haven CT
Dec 9   Marquee, Buffalo NY
Dec 10  Colby College, Waterville ME
Dec 11  Bearsville Th, Bearsville NY
Dec 12  Inter-Media Arts Cte, Huntington NY
Dec 13  Amherst College, Amherst MA
Dec 14  Birchmere, Alexandria VA


Wm
-- 
Bill Madden
wpmadden@eos.ncsu.edu
No icon tact
From: ghandhi.bdrc.bd.com (Jamshed B. Ghandhi)
Newsgroups: triangle.gardens
Subject: Re: Advice needed on a landscape designer
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: ghandhi.bdrc.bd.com (Jamshed B. Ghandhi)
Organization: Becton Dickinson Research Center

I had a similar need and was refered to David Swanson by Chris Gerry, Carrboro's 
Tree Man.  David Swansons phone # is 967-3355.  Chris Gerry, a wealth of 
knowledge on trees ... can be reached at Carrboro Dept of Public Works 968-7719

Good Luck
jamshed

Jamshed B. Ghandhi
Computer Aided Engineering
Newsgroups: triangle.gardens
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: Bulb planting
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Distribution: triangle
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:38:41 GMT

In article <17762@borg.cs.unc.edu> barman@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Dilip Barman) writes:
>I am thinking of planting Holland bulbs so that spring brings pretty
>colors to my house.  I've never done this before.  Is this the right
>time to plant?  Where can I get reasonably priced bulbs and any other
>supplies (top soil?) I might need in the triangle?  Any hints about
>how to plant and how to choose bulbs?  Are there flowers I can plant now
>that will survive part of the winter?  Thanks!

Topsoil, manure, compost, etc:

Terry McPherson (see ad in Village Advocate)
J.V. Brockwell - Carrboro (Calvander) - see phonebook
Camp Oldham (Poultry Villa), Bynum, 5423916

See the rec.gardens FAQ's on bulb sources and planting tips
available via FTP or e-mail from SUNSITE.UNC.EDU.
I'll send you site info and filelist in an e-mail reply.

Call the N.C. Botanical Garden for further info.

Lawrence

london@sunsite.unc.edu
Newsgroups: triangle.gardens
From: dfiled@med.unc.edu (Dean File)
Subject: Need information on a houseplant
Originator: dfiled@pelham
Organization: UNC School of Medicine
Distribution: triangle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:51:09 GMT

A friend who left this area has given me a plant.  I think she called
it a Fishtail (Fern, Palm?).  It is about 3 feet high.  The stem near
the base is thick and woody.  It has about 3 or 4 stems with leaves
that do look like fishtails.  It is still in the temporary planter
in which it was purchased (I think this last spring).

Can anyone tell me about this plant, and what I should do to keep it
alive?  It looks like it could turn into a rather nice large houseplant.
It has a new branch forming, so I think it has possibilities.  Should
I re-pot it now or wait until spring?

Dean File
UNC School of Medicine
From: barman@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Dilip Barman)
Newsgroups: triangle.gardens
Subject: Bulb planting
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:25:41 GMT
Distribution: triangle
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill



I am thinking of planting Holland bulbs so that spring brings pretty
colors to my house.  I've never done this before.  Is this the right
time to plant?  Where can I get reasonably priced bulbs and any other
supplies (top soil?) I might need in the triangle?  Any hints about
how to plant and how to choose bulbs?  Are there flowers I can plant now
that will survive part of the winter?  Thanks!

     Dilip

-- 
  Dilip Barman
  Dept. of Computer Science:		Home:			
  University of North Carolina		5129 Oakbrook Drive
  Sitterson Hall 365, CB 3175		Durham, North Carolina 27713-8005
From: me@vax.somewhere.else (seth@mivax.mc.duke.edu)
Newsgroups: triangle.politics
Subject: Re: Gun Control
Summary: Execution!
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:04:00 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bxv7sv.CG6@unx.sas.com>, sasjzp@stjohn.unx.sas.com (John Asa Price) writes...
>While we are at it, why don't we see to it that other dangerous
>weapons have tighter controls. For example, knives are a 
>significant weapon of choice in domestic and drug-related violence.
>Perhaps there should be a bill introduced which controls private
>ownership of knives...

>Of course the NKA will probably come out with another catchy
>phrase like "Knives don't kill, people do." and raise sickening
>amounts of money and kill the whole thing.

Hey, it's not the whole knife but just the blade that kills.  Don't blame
the handle..."Guns don't kill, bullets do."

>Also, it seems I have heard of an unusual number of deaths caused
>by someone being struck repeatedly with large blunt objects such
>as baseball bats.  Perhaps we should restrict these as well...

I know an employee with the CDC who supported the 55 mph speed limit 
because it saved lives.  Why not drop it to 45? 35?

If you are really concerned about saving lives (auto accidents are one of
the top causes of death), stop whining about guns and start outlawing
cars!

On another thread...
When cars first came out, they were hailed as solutions to pollution 
because cities were full of horse excrement.  Then we discovered air
pollution. 

Can gov't protect the individual from himself? 

Does the end justify the means?

How many lives must be saved to justify taking away someone's freedom?

Is there another way to solve the gun "problem" without gov't regulation?

***************************************************************************

     "The quickest way to a man's heart is with a bullet."

**************************************************************************
Newsgroups: triangle.politics
From: sasjzp@stjohn.unx.sas.com (John Asa Price)
Subject: Re: Gun Control 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:48:31 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

While we are at it, why don't we see to it that other dangerous
weapons have tighter controls. For example, knives are a 
significant weapon of choice in domestic and drug-related violence.
Perhaps there should be a bill introduced which controls private
ownership of knives...

Of course the NKA will probably come out with another catchy
phrase like "Knives don't kill, people do." and raise sickening
amounts of money and kill the whole thing.

Also, it seems I have heard of an unusual number of deaths caused
by someone being struck repeatedly with large blunt objects such
as baseball bats.  Perhaps we should restrict these as well...


My opinions only, not those of SAS...
-- 
-John Price                    OS/2 Maintenance Czar/Source Manager
 Systems Developer             Host Systems R&D
 PC-Host Group                 SAS Institute, Inc.
 sasjzp@unx.sas.com            (919)677-8000 x6976
From: mg@ac.duke.edu (Michael Grubb)
Newsgroups: triangle.freenet
Subject: Operations Committee meeting 11/23
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:52:28 GMT
Distribution: triangle
Organization: Triangle Freenet Operations Committee
Originator: mg@raphael.acpub.duke.edu

The Operations Committee (formerly the User Interface Committee) of
Triangle Freenet will meet next Monday, November 23, from 5:30 to
7:00pm at TRC Environmental Corp., Europa Office Center, Suite 150.
The Europa Office Center is located in Chapel Hill across from the
Hotel Europa just off of 15-501.  For further directions contact our
host, Gregor Kohlbach, GKE@NCCIBM1.BITNET.

Everyone is invited who is interested in helping out with this
part of the Triangle Freenet project.

 -- Michael Grubb  <mg@ac.duke.edu>
From: Richard.Lee@p463.f1.n3641.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Lee)
Newsgroups: triangle.freenet
Subject: Last Test
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:02:44 GMT


sigh ...

 * Origin: 919/286-4542 |=| Psychotronic |=| Durham, NC (1:3641/1.463)
From: Richard.Lee@p463.f1.n3641.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Lee)
Newsgroups: triangle.freenet
Subject: Testing
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:29:04 GMT


Testing sending msg from Fido via FredGate.

 * Origin: 919/286-4542 |=| Psychotronic |=| Durham, NC (1:3641/1.463)
Newsgroups: triangle.freenet
From: cptully@med.unc.edu (Christopher P. Tully,Pathology,62699)
Subject: RTP FreeNet Data Committee Meeting on 11/25/92
Reply-To: cptully@med.unc.edu
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:36:35 GMT

From Tom Hocking, Chair, forwarded by Chris Tully, Co-Chair of the Data
committee


The next meeting of the RTP FreeNet Data Committee is set for 5:30 pm on
Wednesday, 11/25/92 in the Classroom of the Morehead Planetarium.  Meet
at the Visitor's Center in the West Lobby (Columned Entrance) of the
Morehead Planetarium Building.

We need more members!!  Please attend if you can!!!

The agenda will include a discussion of the committee's work plan and
overall goals during the prototype phase of the FreeNet.

Please rsvp to me via e-mail if you can attend!  Thanks!!

--Tom Hocking, F.I.P.S.
Chair, RTP FreeNet Data Committee



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Univ. of North Carolina - Chapel Hill		1122 Vic Charles Dr.
Department of Pathology				Raleigh, NC 27606
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Newsgroups: triangle.freenet
From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: Freenets in Canada and elsewhere
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:48:14 GMT


In article <1992Nov22.013800.28364@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes:
>n article <jstewart.721493440@cunews> jstewart@alfred.carleton.ca (John Stewar
>t) writes:
>
>> Attempts are being made in several Canadian cities to setup Freenets based
>> on the model of the Freenet systems currently operating in several American
>> cities.  Victoria and Ottawa are likely to be the first cities that put a
>> Freenet into full operation.
>
>Could John or anyone else tell us which other Canadian cities are planning
>freenets?  What of Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal?
>
>
>I've compiled a list of worldwide current/planned freenets using hytelnet, 
>the University of Saskatoon based Internet information service, and from a
>leaflet distributed by VIFA, the VIctoria Free-Net Association. Here's that
>list:
>
>There are two freenets in Canada:
>
>* National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario: telnet freenet.carleton.ca or 
>134.117.1.12       login: guest
>
>* The Victoria Free-Net, Victoria, British Columbia: telnet 
>freenet.victoria.bc.ca     available by modem at (604) 595 2300
>
>There's one freenet in New Zealand:
>
>* Citynet, Wellington: operational, telnet access not available.
>
>And there are 15 freenets in the USA:
>
>* Big Sky Telegraph, Dillon, Montana: ``Available Fall/Winter 1992''
>
>* Buffalo Free-Net, Buffalo, New York: ``Available Fall/Winter 1992''
>
>* Chicago Free-Net, Chicago, Illinois: ``Should be available early 1992,''
>contact Paul Bernstein, voice: 312-951-8451, e-mail: 72466.3137@compuserve.com
>
>* The Cleveland FreeNet, Cleveland, Ohio: telnet hela.ins.cwru.edu or 
>freenet-in-a.cwru or 129.22.8.38
>login: visitor
>
>* Core, Seal Beach, California: ``Available Fall/Winter 1992''
>
>* Denver Free-Net, Denver, Colorado: ``Available Fall/Winter 1992''
>
>* The Heartland FreeNet, Peoria, Illinois: telnet heartland.bradley.edu or 
>136.176.5.114           login: bbguest
>
>* La Grande Free-Net, La Grande, Oregon: ``Should be available early 1992,'' 
>contact Jim Williams, voice: 503-494-6059, e-mail: williams@ohsu.edu
>
>* Lorain County FreeNet, Elyria, Ohio: telnet freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu or 
>132.162.32.99         	login: guest
>
>* The Medina County FreeNet, Medina, Ohio: currently not available by telnet, 
>available by modem at (216) 723-6732
>
>* Salem Free-Net, Salem, Oregon: not yet operational, contact Jim Williams, 
>voice: 503-494-6059, e-mail: williams@ohsu.edu
>
>* Santa Barbara Free-Net, Santa Barbara, California: ``Should be available 
>early 1992,'' contact: Timothy Tyndall, voice: 805-962-0129, e-mail: 
>3000rain@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
>
>* Sendit, Fargo, North Dakota: telnet sendit.nodak.edu or 134.129.105.1 
>login: bbs    Password: sendit2me     Login as visitor
>
>* Tri-State Online, Cincinnati, Ohio: telnet tso.uc.edu or 129.137.100.1 
>login: visitor
>
>* The Youngstown Free-Net, Youngstown, Ohio: telnet yfn.ysu.edu or 
>192.55.234.27      	login: visitor
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Dan Fass


Newsgroups: triangle.jobs
From: Ernie_Patterson@unc.edu (Ernie Patterson)
Subject: Programming Position (Graduate Student)
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:39:08 GMT
Expires: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:00:00 GMT




We are looking for someone to work on programming computer
modeling applications  for  a faculty member.  If  you  know
of a  student who knows Fortran and/or Pascal and  needs to
work  part time please send me his/her name and phone number.
The position is currently approved as a research assistant
(student) and the salary is $10,000-@12,000 per year
depending on experience for 20 hours per week. 

Ernie Patterson
321 Wilson Hall CB#3275
UNC-Campus
962-2136





Newsgroups: triangle.jobs
From: davec@rock.concert.net (David Cohen -- DBLinx)
Subject: MS Windows, C, UNIX - Raleigh,NC
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Distribution: triangle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:26:00 GMT

Full-Time Positions - Raleigh, NC

Company : PC, Windows Development Company (name withheld)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Position: Application Developers
Skills: Experienced MS Windows, C. 
    Also looking for C, C++, UNIX skills.
Education: BS or equivalent
Salary: negotiable
Relocation Benefits: none

----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not a recruiter, and have no affiliation with this company.
I am acting as go-between for a search firm looking to staff this
position. I'll answer questions if possible, and will pass
your name and phone number along to the recruiter - but only if
requested to. Please respond via Email - a resume would be nice,
and only call if absolutely necessary.

Dave Cohen
DBLinx, P.O. Box 12545, RTP, NC  27709-2545
919-469-5196
Internet:davec@rock.concert.net
Compuserve:70431,132
BBS:919-469-3972

-- 
Dave Cohen, DBLinx                  | "I know things about stuff."
1117 Manchester Dr., Cary, NC 27511 |  
Internet:davec@rock.concert.net     |      - Zippy the Pinhead
CompuServe: 70431,132               |      
Newsgroups: triangle.jobs
From: davec@rock.concert.net (David Cohen -- DBLinx)
Subject: Smalltalk Developers - Contract
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Distribution: triangle
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:57:16 GMT


Contract Positions - Raleigh, NC

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Position: Smalltalk Developers, Contract
Skills: Experience with real Smalltalk projects
Salary: $55/hr and up

Developers needed immediately. 
Length of contract and salary negotiable.
A real need for SmallTalk developers is opening up in this area -
here's your chance to get in early.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not a recruiter, and have no affiliation with this company.
I am acting as go-between for a consultant looking to staff these
positions. I'll answer questions if possible, and will pass
your name and phone number along to the recruiter - but only if
requested to. Please respond via Email - a resume would be nice,
and only call if absolutely necessary.

Dave Cohen
DBLinx, P.O. Box 12545, RTP, NC  27709-2545
919-469-5196
Internet:davec@rock.concert.net
Compuserve:70431,132
BBS:919-469-3972



-- 
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1117 Manchester Dr., Cary, NC 27511 |  
Internet:davec@rock.concert.net     |      - Zippy the Pinhead
CompuServe: 70431,132               |
From: jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead)
Newsgroups: triangle.jobs
Subject: Re: Position Announcement - Univ. of Colorado at Boulder
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:58:08 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Why have there been so many postings for jobs outside North Carolina
lately?  I thought this group was for Triangle and North Carolina jobs;
hence its name.  There is the misc.jobs.* hierarchy for those looking
for jobs nationwide.

-- 
 ________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: triangle.jobs
From: Eli.Mantel@launchpad.unc.edu (Eli Mantel)
Subject:  Xbase programmers, Morrisville, NC
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:04:37 GMT

Needed: programmers and a programming manager
Requirements: XBase knowledge

Will consider all levels of experience from beginning to highly
experienced.  Must be able to document code and produce clean, bug-free
code (don't we all wish!).  Send resumes and salary history to:
	Programmer
	c/o The Cactus Group
	One Copley Parkway
	Morrisville, NC
FAX: 919-481-9307

I'm posting this for someone who doesn't have Internet access, and this
is all I know about these openings.  PLEASE reply only to the address or
FAX number listed above.  Thanks.
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