HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jaskew@spam.ua.oz (Joseph Askew)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Motss Grand Faggot, Garbo, etc.
Summary: But which hand does she use
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:35:09 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Statistics, Pure & Applied Mathematics, University of Adelaide

In article <mattm-071292163402@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>In article <1992Dec5.035534.4477@spdcc.com>, arne@spdcc.com (Arne
>Adolphson) wrote:

>> On to Garbo.  Garbo is quite simply the greatest star in motion
>> picture history.

>> Anything else you want to know?

>(Where, when, did) she actually say:  I just want to be alone?

Forget the small stuff, it is the important question that matters (namely)

Was She LeftHanded?

This is all that really matters!

Young inquiring minds need to know (preferably by E-Mail)

Joseph (who is, naturally, not hand-impaired aka righthanded)

-- 
Joseph Askew, Gauche and Proud  Barbarian horns draw out the northern wind;
jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu  Paler than water lies the Thistle Pass;
Disclaimer? Sue, see if I care  Sky swallows up the road to Kokonor;
One China One Korea One Eire32  Moonlight, a thousand miles along the Wall.
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Wal-Mart & Homophobia?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 10:38:37 EST

Motss-folk, I need info/feedback- I would like any/all info on homophobia
within this chain- (I have heard repeated mention of them not carrying Magic
Johnson's AIDS book, them refusing heavy metal groups with explicit lyrics,
ect.....)
can you Please send me any/all info you might have (e-mail)
thanks!
Penn

(growf)
B5 T++ W++ K F- S+ C/D

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco)
Subject: Re: Prolonged erection victim
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:27:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.000548.1718@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.233552.24158@fuug.fi> an3360@anon.penet.fi writes:
>>PROLONGED ERECTION VICTIM HAS DIED
>>
>>Erizefani Mugoya, the unfortunate man who has been going through untold
>>agony following an abnormally prolonged erection of his penis for the last
>>two weeks, has finally passed away after being hospitalised at Kamuli
>>hospital during the course of his ordeal.
>
>Men with priapism are at high risk of dying from blood clots formed in
>the engorged organ travelling to the lungs or brain.


Hmmmm. I just saw a bit of video on leeches used for medicinal purposes.
Maybe they shoulda considered one?  Apparently certain leeches produce
anticoagulating, antibiotic, and other biochemicals that prevent nasty
stuff from happening when, er, in use.  In the video, they showed a guy
with a finger reattachment. Apparently the larger blood vessels could be
reconnected surgically, but the smaller _return_ vessels could not. There-
fore, his blood was stagnant in the reattached digit. Using a leech to
draw out excess blood *worked*..

<sigh> Fact _is_ stranger than fiction.
-- 
Steve Giammarco/5330 Peterson Lane/Dallas TX 75240
marco@sdf.lonestar.org
loveyameanit.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: misek@boulder.parcplace.com (Steve Misek)
Subject: Reputations...
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:09:38 GMT

 :: 
 :: > ::    soc.motss.misc
 :: 
 :: >seems rather recursive
 :: 
 :: Ha!  If it's going to be recursive, I want you to be its immoderator,
 :: and we can call it soc.motss.men.i.would.marry.without.hesitation.
 :: 

:-)

you're going to get me a reputation if you keep this up.... err... pardon
the pun...

Remember, I **DO** live in Colorado, thus if we ever attempt to consumate
the marriage we might spend a lot of time in jail.... well, I **DID** buy
this really nifty leather jacket....

 :: 
 :: Big wet ones,
 :: yours very gladly to recurse with,
 :: Jesser
 :: 

Hugs

steve

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: Congratulating (het) parents on their new roast
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:11:58 GMT

In article <Bzo2DH.DFx@cs.columbia.edu> ji@cs.columbia.edu (John Ioannidis) writes:
>have accounts at, that Mr&Mrs so-and-so had a brand new baby, vital
>statistics of the baby follow, and the message ends with how the
>father is proud and the mother is resting at the hospital. The message
>is invariably congratulatory.

>5. Am I the only one with the (suppresed) urge to post followups along
>the lines of "who cares?" or "only 10 pounds? You can hardly make a
>pot roast out of that!"

as i wrote my parents when i moved into a townhouse complex this fall
  "there are enough little children here to feed a large dog for a year..."

-- 
   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N 80.52W]
         kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca   postmaster@thinkage.com   thinkage!kgdykes
         harley-request@thinkage.on.ca             kgdykes@math.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: EE statements (was: Re: Attention Skiers Boycotting Colorado)
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:10:42 GMT

gklein@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Gary Klein, bear-at-heart) writes:
>In article <1hven4INN8ri@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
> writes:
>> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

>>> ...  And bennies like
>>> Tuition Aid, gym membership, credit union membership, special
>>> life insurance group rates, for example, are usually not made
>>> available to unmarried partners (and their dependants)...

>> Agreed.  I don't know that these are EE issues, though.  
>                                       ||Employment
>                                       Equal
>
>     What do you think the word EQUAL means?

>     Why should corporations worry about the "concept" of Equal Employment?
>Does each employer have the RIGHT to limit each and every employee/spousal
>benefit as they see fit, and still be exempt from prosecution under EEOC
>regulations?

>     Walter discusses this:
>> ...
>> Because they are the company, and that is their right.  If they 
>> think it is good business to pay people who either have a family 
>> or are likely to be saving for one (married people) that is 
>> their perogative.  It may seem unfair, but I don't know that 
>> it qualifies as an EE problem...

>     Walter, how would you feel if your employer turned out to be a gay rights
>activist, and revoked everyone of those 13 spousal benefits that I listed, from 
>YOU, while granting those benefits to your homosexual coworkers!

	Well - it couldn't happen, eight?  I mean Walter is in COLORADO
and CO:2 prevents someone from being discriminated against on the basis
of their heterosexuality.  So you MUST offer EE stuff to heterosexuals,
but you DON'T have to for homosexuals even if you do for heteroseuxals.

	Isn't equality simple?
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Diet differences with your partner?
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 12:43:33 GMT

In article <184735@pyramid.pyramid.com> sylvan@pyramid.COM (Sylvan Ruud) writes:
>I am a vegetarian, and find it difficult to deal with a lover who is not.  There

I have two friends (who I had Chrsitmas Dinner with recently) who are
lacto-vegetarians.  Michael was an evil meat-eater :) when he met
Patrick and converted... I think that if you are talking about a
long-term relationship then you have to make some hard decisions after
the "probationary period."  He should already know by now how you feel
about rotten, dead animal flesh... and I'm sure he has something to
say about living with digesting beans.  Now, you two have to talk
things over and decide what is really important.


-- 
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|AMD PCD MS-520 | 5900 E. Ben White|Austin, TX  78741  |f:512-462-5155 |
|"No is yes, And we're all free"   |CO made a #2 no-no... PU!          |
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: Posting Styles
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:46:40 GMT
Organization: (getting there)

glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:


mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
  >|> And then there are the folks who wait until they know it's safe, and
  >|> then talk about the other posters.  This article will have expired
  >|> at Greg's site long before he gets back.  Hah.

glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
 >No such luck, Cobra Woman.  Prepare to pay.


Tsk, tsk, these unreliable systems.  What can I say?

See ya later!


Mara [Cobra Woman?  You gotta be kidding.]

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "cures" for homosexuality
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:30:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec23.213029.7818
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Dec22.170637.15042@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> mudge@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (MUDGE BRIAN WAYNE) writes:
>7.) Physical Therapy, according to one theory, prostate massage kills 
>    "homosexual cells" and replaces them with "healthy heterosexual cells".

I better change my sexual practices.

Seriously, this sounds a lot like those support groups of men trying
to reform from homosexuality, but mostly end up cruising each other.

>10.)Shock Treatment.

Katz's "Gay American History" (an all around great book) has a good
personal account of a man's experience with electroshock therapy when
his parents tried to "cure" him. It's quite frightening, almost put me
off of psychologists all together. I know it's in the first edition, I
haven't read the second but I'd be surprised if he removed it.
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                 Shame is playback: exposure to disapproval
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why not cure homosexuality?
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:43:17 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Dec30.052440.4792@Princeton.EDU>, elliott@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jr. Frank W. Elliott) writes:
|> Why not cure bigotry?

Line of the weekend:

Bigotry is so stupid.  Why hate people as a group when there
are perfectly good reasons to hate people on an individual basis?


FWA
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:43:50 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Dec23.002935.6348@netcom.com>, solovay@netcom.com (Andrew
Solovay) wrote:
> 
> In article <mattm-221292151135@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes 14 lines of flamage without using the phrase "totalitarian tinkerbell". 
> 
> Possibly a record.

It's a lie!  It's a lie!  I'm *sure* I used totalitarian tinkerbell,
at least once.  Or perhaps fascist feminist?  Something like that...  

*X*
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde)
Subject: Re: Devil CD's
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:49:26 GMT


> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>a flying squirrel scrivens on e-acorns:

>>Bzzzzzzt.  Shoulda visited Club Uranus more often (when it still
>>existed).  I danced to "Back in Black" and "Whole Lotta Love" there,
>>as well as "Fame".
>
>The occasional "unusual" song isn't what I'm after. I'm talking
>about entirely avoiding the "dance music" genre, and sticking
>with rock 'n roll and "power pop" (which I how I classify
>Madonna, Berlin, and some others).  There was a very interesting
>article in the B.A.R. sometime back about "why won't gay DJ's
>play rock" -- even when they see the floor fill up when they 
>do, and empty when they go back to whatever vapid dreck they
>usually play.

Well, I've had this idea for a while... All I need is a couple of
investors and about 40 - 50,000 and a gay rock bar *could* open up
around here pretty quickly.... :)
*whistful sigh*
I think that the gay DJ's really only play what they want to hear,
and what thier EMPLOYERS want to hear, and the drones who continually
dance to it are too brainwashed to do much about it.  There's a couple
of bars out here that play rock/progressive (ie stones, doors, rem,
black crowes, etc...) from 5 ish till about 9 when the disco queens
show up along with the disco dj.

When I ran the Gay Metal Society here, we really didn't have too much
trouble setting up metal nights at most of the bars.  They started
giving us tuesday evenings and such, but by the end, we were geting
Friday and Saturday night gigs.  Only the trendy places didn't think
we could draw more than they normally could.  Hell, I even had some
rock clubs agreeing to do gay metal nights.

Hippie Jim


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tmg@maths.tcd.ie (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Jason Priestley, again
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:03:37 GMT

richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
>And to think that Dr. Thompson is pictured in Rolling Stone with his
>arm around JASON PRIESTLEY.

I am told by my Sources that Mr Priestley is staying here in Dublin for
the season that's in it.  He and his girlfriend ("she's probably a
fence") are occupying an entire floor of some hotel that I've
forgotten, and a friend of a friend is dedicated to looking after him.
This information is offered for what it is worth, namely not very
much.  I don't even know what JP looks like.

,
Eamonn
-- 
Eamonn McManus		emcmanus@cs.tcd.ie 	...!mcsun!cs.tcd.ie!emcmanus
	  One of the 0% of Americans who are not Americans.
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: New DPN
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:24:20 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <75696@apple.apple.COM>, brad@Apple.COM (Brad Zaller) wrote:
> 
> *X* writes:
> 
> >  I, myself, while certainly not opposed to such practices,
> > prefer brunettes, with thin butts and little tufts of hair between
> > the navel and groin                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> All the better to swipe off with one flick of a Gillette II, no doubt?
> Followed by a liberal application of surfer-boy wax...

Certainly not!  Prefer is prefer!  I *prefer* little wispy wisps of
hair between the navel and you-know-what.  Not, of course, that 
I would object to a bubble-butted blond beach boy bearing a big
board...  

In moderation.

*X*
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Legos
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:28:03 GMT
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I, too, wanted to be an architect, and wound up a theatrical set and
lighting designer.  I think I"m going to go out and buy myself some
Legos for Christmas.

:)

Suzanne
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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415-506-6194                                         Oracle Corporation
                   Hate is not a family value
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mikel@dosbears.UUCP (Mike Lipsie)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Costner plans Colorado Filming
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:26:59 GMT
Reply-To: dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
Distribution: soc
Organization: DOS Bears

In article <11@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.180517.19094@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>>
>>Is this a surprise?  The man plays golf with Bush for heavens sake.....
>>
>>Bil Snodgrass III
>>
>>p.s.  Portland just got a convention that had planned on going
>>to Denver.  Guess boycotts don't work! ;-)
>
>Albuquerque is starting to see some convention business that Colorado
>lost.  Also, anyone looking for a place to go skiing should consider
>New Mexico.

Let me second that.  Taos, Red River, Santa Fe are all fantasic ski
areas.  Sandia and Sierra Blanca are very good as well.  And for all
you California skiers, the slopes are practically deserted (compared
to what you are used to :-) and the low humidity and high elevation
combine to create a delightful snow.


--
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dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: soc.motss.*
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.141228.13237@bsu-ucs> 00daspeakman@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman, Ball State University) writes:

>I, in turn, also support a change from MOTSS to either queer or lesbiangay.

I won't oppose a change from "motss," but I *will* vote against *any*
proposal for soc.lesbiangay rather than soc.lesbigay.  Boy, that was a
surprise.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
Subject: Re: More on Roseanne & Cast
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
	<rizzoe.580.724600003@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU>
	<1992Dec17.213315.7090@njitgw.njit.edu> <1gr43jINNsmb@fido.asd.sgi.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:46:21 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1gr43jINNsmb@fido.asd.sgi.com> pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:

   Figures.  I hate Martin Mull.  White male heterosexual yuppie scum.
   Probably thinks he's so straight that it "probably can't hurt his 
   career".

Martin Mull has spent his career making fun of his heritage.  As for
"can't hurt his career" -- boy, his resume is just filled with shows
done strictly because they'd appeal to a wide audience, right?

Shows like "Fernwood Tonight" and "The History of White People in
America".  Not exactly Tom Cruise material.
--

  - Ronald Hayden

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From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Boycott, and Colorado Happenings
Date: 31 Dec 1992 16:20:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com

kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106)) writes:
> I refuse to do business in any county that voted yes (which is a bit
> tough, since I work in one of those counties) unless that business is
> minority owned and/or operated or has demonstrated clear and public
> opposition to Amendment #2.

Why the /or?  By default, what makes a minority owned/operated business 
'better' so that it shouldn't be boycotted? 

> State Rep. Sam Williams (D-Breckenridge) is going to file a bill to
> refer a constitutional amemdment onto the 1993 ballot that would repeal
> Amendment 2 in toto.  State Senator Bill Owens (R-Aurora) (I seem to
> recall) is going to file a bill to refer a constitutional amendment
> that would ban discrimination in housing or employment on "irrelevant
> factors",

This made the front page of the Colorado Springs paper this morning. 
It looks like the most constructive thing done politically yet about 
#2.  If #2 is allowed to go into effect before this new one, the 
new one will override #2.  

Walter
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Private antidiscrimination policies in CO (was Re: Attention...)
Date: 1 Jan 93 00:49:13 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) wrote:
>So you've got 
>someone who *wants* to see examples of discrimination in
>action, and the best you can do is "Oy!  Silly Walter --"? 

The problem Walter is that they're sitting there right in front of your nose,
and have been for quite awhile.  You have chosen not to see them.  If you
would think a little before writing and writing and writing and writing
(ad nauseam) to soc.motss, maybe you wouldn't get so defensive about what
people here are trying to tell you.

Just look at the Armed Forces fergodsakes!  The Federal Government (civilian).
State and local governments.  Talk to just about any gay, lesbian or
bisexual person.  Cracker Barrel!  Hundreds of other companies.  It 
completely surrounds you.  You've chosen not to see it, and expect us to
point it out to you.  

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
From: jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Foreskin-Impaired (was Re: Drooling over...)
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:50:34 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

In <1992Dec28.121147.22262@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
>Also, you can't dock an
>uncircumcised cock.

Uhhhhhhhh...

Sorry, thinking of "dock" = "partially amputate, esp. a dog's tail or ears".

But what (a clueless newbie asks) does dock mean here?

--                                ____
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: How did you find soc.motss?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:21:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.231739.8064@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
> How did you discover soc.motss? Did you find it at the same time you
> found Usenet, or later?

It was around the same time (spring of 1989, shortly after I first
started working at a place that had a newsfeed). I *think* I found it
by browsing through the list of groups in news.whatever-it-is, where
the one-line description made it pretty obvious, but I may have been
tipped off by somebody (Max-who-was-then-Alix?) to look for it.

alt.politics.homosexualtiy didn't exist then.