From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: EVR
Keywords: EVR
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:33:07 GMT

In <1992Aug17.234749.23710@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> sankar@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Mahalingam Sankararaman) writes:


>EVR did bring out some aspects of caste into open and did
>fight against it, but not really for the benefit for the
>untouchables etc., but for his own financial and
>political power.  He knew that fighting brahmins were
>easy as they do not fight back and they are small
>minority. He did not ever fight against upper cast hindus
>such as Pillais, Goundars etc., who were financially and
>politically powerful and hence formidable for EVR. 

Periyaar fundamentally did not fight brahmins as the
brahmins think. They wanted to make periyaar look bad.
periyaar only fought against brahmanism. That is why
he started his fight first against the Rajah of
Travancore. (who was not a brahman but practiced
brahmanism).
    Only some Brahmins started, even in net to spread venom
against periyaar. not pillai's , goundar's. They accepted
his ideals because they were noble.
>Painting EVR as fighting for independence etc., were just lies
>promoted after the independence by his supporters to save his face.
>It is well known that he adviced to observe Aug 15, as a day of
>mourning. Even his fighting for a Dravidian land did not
>get any attention and he was ignored during the days of partition 
>or even before that. He was no body during the
>independence struggle, as can be seen by the arrest records during 
>these struggles. Even the DMK govt. ignored him until way
>after his death.
 Yah! you don't have the records of his struggle. Everybody
knows. Every body knows he was not after power. The
main difference in ideals between periyaar and Anna
was the one of coming to power. periyaar did not
want.

    The difference of opinion between Periyaar and
Annadurai was not that between Janaki-Jayalalitha type
of fighting for the man's money.
>Gandhi, along with his struggle for independent India also
>struggled for the upliftment of the untouchables and the
>congress party in Tamil Nadu did both in a much more
>civilized and non-violent way. As a congress party
>member, even Rajaji got his daughter married to a non-brahmin. 
>Where as the justice party and latter
>the DK were just doing publicity stunts, yelling at
>brahmins etc. to get attention and EVR made lots of money. 


periyaars followers never adopted violence as you think.
On the other hands, so called born again, patriotic
brahmanical hindus like RSS-Godse in the name of
hinduism did not like Gandhi accomodating minorities.
They even killed the father of the Nation. They are
not banned in India because of Brahmanical power
(shrewd and dangerous) ruling the country after independence
day. 
>These things were known to his followers, especially CN
>Annadurai, and when EVR got married to a rather helpless
>young women, they protested and started getting away from
>him as CNA saw no future in DK. When the party split into
>DK and DMK, some of the things said by these two groups
>in a rather kuzha-adi-chandai fashion, the true color of
>EVR came out.
 Periyaar called the day as mourning day because
he felt one satan has left and the power is transferred
to the new Brahmannical -false, intolerant, non accomodative
Hindus. Rightly after that they killed Gandhi who was the
father of the nation. They orchestered violence. 
They killed 8,000 of my Tamizh brothers and sisters
in Srilanka.

  madam piditha pOli hindutukaL
  mitha vaatham pesukireerkaL
  uNmai mitha vaathi Gandhiyum
  thanthai periyaarum thaan.
  .
  If periyaar was agianst brahmins how many brahmins did
he kill. The fact that he like good peole amoung
Brahmins has come from your own words.
>The main reasons given for the party split was that EVR
>got married to this very young women to protect his
>property and that the financial arrangements of DK was not clean.

>For which, EVR answered that these guys like CNA etc.,
>wanted her but since they could not, they left the party
>because of jealousy etc.
No sense!
>CNA group alleged that, if he does not like brahmins so
>much why did he have exclusively Brahmin tenants in some
>of his properties in Trichy and Erode and why his
>accountant was a Brahmin? 
 Correct! periyaar did not hate all brahmins. he
accomodated good brahmins. This is the proof.
>For which EVR replied that the Brahmins were god fearing
>and paid the rent promptly and his accounted was
>very intelligent. 

>So there goes the cause for fighting against the rights
>of the women and non-brahmins.


 Go to Tanjavoor.    EVR-maNi ammai trust has started and
running very efficiently one poytechnic
and engineering college exclusively for women. They
get 100 % result. Just because you don't like
oppressed people coming up, don't have to
be anti-periyaar. No real periyaar admirer is
anti-brahman because fundamentally he did
not preach that. you are not a brahmin just
because you are born or some body told you. so you
cannot be reborn or born again. 
>Sankar

>PS This group is making me a "born again brahmin (tm)".

aNthanar yenpOr aRavOr maRavuyirkum
 senthaNmai pUdozhuka laan.

 A brahmin is one who lives upto morals.
He loves every living being.

You are not a Brahmin just because some body told you
are one.!

Kathiravan