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From: redfive@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Vian Lawson)
Subject: The Upcoming ILM Special.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:30:40 GMT

Great news for we, the slavering fanpersons :-).  

Well, you, the American slavering fanpersons.  

Does anyone have any idea on whether the overseas rights have been sold? 
Or do we Antipodeans and other non-USA types have to pine indefinitely?  

Oh, the angst.
-- 
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  "Oh no!  That means we'll have to     |  \ /  | Otherwise known as  
  react on our own ..."                  \_____/ redfive@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Missing scene in EMPIRE?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:46:32 GMT


	The only remnant actually visible in the film is very
brief.  When Han is about ready to leave to go find Luke, you
see the medical droid 2-1B working on a slain Tauntaun.  It was
supposedly killed by a Wampa.  Also the part where ice falls on
R2's head wasn't supposed to be from the vibrations caused by
the walkers.  There was a Wampa coming through the roof!

						-Quinn
From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
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Subject: Re: Another error?
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:48:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1993Jan20.193641.16743@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>
>Actually, it's quite simple.  If you watch the movie, an Ugnaught
>appears to remove the cuffs right before Han is lowered into the
>pit.  He kept his hands down while being lowered, but raised them
>when the freezing process started.  Simple.

Yes.  This is very clear. 

Camera Leia head and shoulders -  "I love you"
Camera Han   -  "I know"
Camera Leia head and shoulders 
Camera Han 3/4 - Two Ugnaughts walk up to him.  One fiddles with the bindings
             while the other holds his right arm.
Camera Han Head and Shoulders - he looks down at what they are doing
Camera Ughnaughts - They take the bindings off and start to waddle away
Camera Han Back - Ughnaughts waddle away and Han is lowered down

Or else they were just giving a man his last wrist tickle, as mandated by
Ughnaught tradition. It's on the back of the Burger King card #79. 

I refuse to put smilies on that. 

Was this scene cut from some tapes like the "R2 will try to make a precise
location" scene in ANH?

BTW, I always wondered why he did that.  Ben says something like, "Plug in, 
you should be able to interpret the entire Imperial network."  Leia placed
the plans in R2's "memory systems" days before, though.  Ben knew this, too.

Of course, the real reason is that they would never have known that the Princess
was there otherwise, but...

-Bill 
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From: gtd227a@prism.gatech.EDU (frenchie)
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Subject: Indy Jones scripts
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:52:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


    Sorry if this question has been asked before, but does anyone know
where I might get copies of the scripts to the Indiana Jones flicks?
I haven't seen them at any of the ftp sites I've checked out.  Any help
would be most appreciated.  Thanks a lot in advance.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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        "what was it you wanted, I ain't keepin' score
             are you the same person that was here before
                is it something important, maybe not
                   what was it you wanted, tell me again, I forgot" 
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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: More questions
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:29:49 GMT
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In article <1jtfqcINNq1n@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon) writes...
>If the Falcon was destroyed escaping the superstructure of the Death Star, what
>are the circumstances that allowed Lando to be at the Ewok celebration? Did the
>Falcon(therefore) survive? Or did Lando(alone) escape? Or did the whole crew on
>the Falcon escape before it's demise? Or did the Falcon only APPEAR to explode?
>Since this was never filmed, any ideas will be only speculation. However, those
>will be appreciated as well.

Sorry to spoil the fun of all of you who were speculating how Lando might
have survived even though the Falcon didn't: Lando was meant to die in the
original ending.  If you look at the script carefully, you'll notice a note 
at then end of scene 136: DELETE REFERENCE TO LANDO IN SCENE 138 [the Ewok
celebration].  The Falcon was destroyed and no one aboard escaped.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
From: quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews)
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Subject: Star Wars Cards
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:28:12 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Does anyone know where I can get sets of ALL!!! the cards from all three 
movies, mine were recently destroyed in the flooding in NJ in Dec, and I 
want to replace them.  Please E-Mail me. Thanks Quantum.

You'll find out I'm full of surprises.
                                        Luke Skywalker to Darth Vader
                                        EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
From: haywire@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the Insane One)
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Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:23:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan26.173412.8084@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.125516.24155@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
>>In <1k0sjaINN337@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> hale@bbsls84.BNR.CA (Dave Hale x5501) writes:
>>>In the AT-AT scene in TESB, did anyone notice the glimpse of one of the two
>>>legged walkers?
>>>
>>>It was only on screen for a second or so and isn't seen again until the
>>>forest scene in ROTJ. 
>>
>>Yup, I remember it.  My 7 year old brother (at the time) and myself called it
>>a 'Chicken Walker' because it kinda looked like a chicken.  Not until pre-ROTJ
>>photo/fanzine material came out did we know it was called a 'Scout Walker'.
>
>Y'know, I KNOW that I heard them actually called "Chicken Walkers" at one
>time, but I can't remember where.  Does anyone else remember hearing them
>called this, or am I suffering from the "I KNOW I saw the Biggs scene"
>syndrome?

"Chicken Walkers" is the nickname George Lucas and his FX buddies
called the ATST's because thats how they walked. This can be referenced
in that movie about making TESB or in the TESB sketchbook.

haywire
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From: djtooley@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Doug Tooley)
Subject: Re: Really nagging question
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:46:49 GMT

<MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Why is Artoo always black and white in space?!?!?!?!?
>In all three movies, whenever he is shown in Luke's X-Wing, his blue panels
>turn a sorta-greyish tint, DEFINITELY not blue...
You are correct, sir!

>I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I don't know...

There is:  Think blue screen.

Blue screen type filming is just suppose to take care of it's own shade
of blue, but there are side effects. I'm no expert, so I shan't continue. :)

One neat side effect of blue screen filming can be seen in ST:TNG.
The stars from the windows are reflected in the black (shiny) tables.
This was an accident, (reflected blue screen) and apparently really 
impressed the people working on it. ("look what we did!")

...."I haven't lost my mind, I know exactly where I left it."................
Doug Tooley             3B Co-Op CS student at U of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
djtooley@{descartes|napier|cayley}.uwaterloo.ca
From: schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Christian "Chris Caputo's evil twin" von Schmidt-Pauli)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: I need the FAQ's
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:36:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


	Hello there, sorry to bother you, but I'm new here.  So if the
person who has the FAQ list would send it to me, I would be greatly 
appreciative.

Send to : schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu

Thanks all around in advance.
-- 
These views are completely fictional.  If any fimiliarity
with my views and with any views living or dead is entirely coincidental.
Christian von Schmidt-Pauli          |    "Don't give up hope!.
schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu           |     Vote Dan for Pope."
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Hyperspace
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:02:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong) writes:

>In article <1993Jan14.085525.21274@leland.Stanford.EDU> karlmarx@leland.Stanford.EDU (Karl Wilhelm Brown) writes:
>>[Stuff on H-space theory deleted]

>	That's what I thought. So that means that the craft could be 
>travelling at a ridiculously slow speed, (55 mph?) and still end up "going
>faster than light" in real space? And does H-space have to be black? Could
>it be purple or something? And just what is likely to be in H-space? Any
>possibilty of creatures, derilict ships, maybe even planets? Now...
>	Obviously, stuff in the 3-D world is 3-D, and stuff in the 2-D
>world is 2-D, etc. That would mean that stuff in the H-space world (dimension)
>would have to be a sort of "H-Space-D" So is that how a H-space drive works?
>By converting your ship, people, space-junk round a field into something more
>than 3-D so that you can flit round in H-space? Just some miscellanous 
>blatherings.

Well, in ROTJ, we are shown, from the cockpit, the Millenium Falcon
coming out of hyperspace.  Hyperspace was seen as some sort of multi-
colored tunnel through space-time.

keith

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From: pjs4h@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Peter Joshua Stathis)
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:40:48 GMT

you guys areforgetting something.  when Ben says that Luke is
their last hope in TESB and in RotJ, he could just be thinking
about time.  The Alliance isnt going to get another shot at the
new Death Star (at least Lando thinks so) if they dont act
quickly.  So if they were to lose Luke during this critical
juncture in the galactic civil war, it might not even matter if
there were another -- be it Han or Chewie or Jabba the Hut or
whoever.  There wouldnt be enough time to train this new person
before the Empire had established a firm grip on the galaxy.
    So, when Yoda says, "THere is another," he might just be
expressing a different opinion.  Perhaps he thinks there is
enough time to train a new Jedi.  
      Anyway, whatever.  May the Force be with you and all that.
						SKEET
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From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:12:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.110654.26049@hemlock.cray.com> jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
>In article <80820@hydra.gatech.EDU> gtd227a@prism.gatech.EDU (frenchie) writes:
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Exactly the point I was trying to make when I originally posted that perhaps
>>Wedge, as opposed to Leia, COULD have been the other Yoda referred to.  I
>>didn't mean to say that Wedge WAS the other hope for the galaxy, just that
>>it was a possibility that he was.  Who knows, it could be someone else
>>entirely (Chewbacca, perhaps... :)  Seriously, though, I'm glad to see 
>>someone else out there shares my view... (Or maybe I share theirs...)
>>Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I think that Chewie could be
>>that other Yoda was talkin' about...     (Naahhhh...  Couldn't be... :))
>
>Maybe he was referring to ol' one arm Snaggletooth...

I think it was Greedo. Of course, since Ben knew he was dead and Yoda didn't,
they had different opinions. Right after the camera cuts from Yoda to Luke's
X-wing, Ben probably said, "But Yoda...Greedo's dead." and then Yoda probably
said, "Really? Aw, shit."

					local Star Wars guru
______________________________________________________________________________
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From: Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Wookie Christmas Special
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:33:12 GMT

In <86JwXB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews) writes:

>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Wookie Christmas Special? 
>Am willing to pay reasonble price.  Please E-Mail me. Thanks Quantum.

>You'll find out I'm full of surprises.
>                                        Luke Skywalker to Darth Vader
>                                        EMPIRE STRIKES BACK


     Send check or money order for $23.00 to D.C. Hollis, P.O. Box #65,
 Mt. Tabor, NJ 07878


     Request show #40 Star Wars Holiday Special


     He offers 4 30min. shows per tape recorded at SP mode. The Star Wars
 Special is equal to 3. You have the option of requesting another single
 30 min. show too but I figure you'll rather not.


     Other shows include cartoons and TV from 60's & 70's. I'll answer
 requests for other show titles but ask that you're specific as to what
 your interests are. There are no other Star Wars related tapes besides
 the Holiday special.

 
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From: alang@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Anthony Lang)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Movies
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:21:09 GMT

In article <1k3pgeINN7r6@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> drue@citi.umich.edu writes:
>--------
>
>>Well, I can remember the following, but it ain't a definitive full list:
>
>> American Graffiti
>> Star Wars
>> Hanover Street (I think?)
>> Raiders of the Lost Ark
>> The Empire Strikes Back
>> Witness
>> Blade Runner
>> Indiana Jones and the Temple of Toom
>> Return of the Jedi
>> Working Girl
>> Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
>> Presumed Innocent (and the forgettable mystery thriller before that)
>> Regarding Henry
>> Patriot Games
>
>>I think I only remembererd the good ones :-)
>
>>I wanna add the "Guns of Navarone" (sp?) but I am not sure it it is correct.
>
>Hanover Street yes.
>Force 10 from Navarone (Guns of Navarone starred Gregory Peck and Anthony
>                        Quinn...among others).

 Frantic
 Mosquito Coast





Tony Lang
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From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:52:37 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

spock@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott) writes:

> In article <1jkf90INNdr1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John
> >In article <alix.727555922@vincent2.iastate.edu> alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Mell
> >>
> >>And as a tangent from this thread, has the possibility of Han Solo being
> >>strong in the Force been discussed here?  Many of my friends discussed the
> >>possibility that HE was the "other" Yoda spoke of in ESB.  His "luck"
> >>(that he refers to in ANH) is called the Force by Obi-Wan. Han _does_ seem
> >>incredibly lucky.  Could it be his unconscious use of the Force?
> >
> >	I thought so.  The Leia explanation was kind of disappointing, having
> >it be Han would have been nifty, even if it is a hoary old sad plot.  But
> >no dice.
> >
> 
> 	How can anyone speculate that it was someone else other than Leia? In 
>   the Timothy Zahn novels we clearly see that Leia is the important "other". 
>   only other possibility would be the dark old Jedi that Luke goes to meet in
>   "Dark Force Rising". He could be the other that would have to be persuaded 
>   into helping the Rebel Alliance.
> 	George Lucas clearly had this line put into the script so he could show
>   some existance of future episodes. The answer to the "other" question in my
>   mind is either Leia or the newly found old Jedi. It's definitely not Han.
> 

Was C'boath a creation of Lucas's or purely of Zahn's?  If the latter, I 
highly doubt that Lucas could have been considering a character that 
didn't exist (and wouldn't, until much later and in somebody else's 
imagination).


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From: viper@camelot.bradley.edu (Arnie Franks)
Subject: Re: More questions
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 24 Jan 93 08:55:30 GMT

In <1jt2k0INNfmo@leela.CS.ORST.EDU> littaum@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mike Littau) writes:

>1>  Did Kenner ever release a specific "Wedge" action figure?  I stopped
>collecting them around the 63rd figure, and missed out on the very
>last "wave" of figures.  
NO not to my knoledge was there ever a wedge figure made but it is possible that somewhere there is a prototype. . . .ya just never know

>2>  Where does one go about getting a "set" of the movies?  

>At your local video store, I got one from my parents for chrismas its from blockbuster

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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:55:16 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1k0sjaINN337@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> hale@bbsls84.BNR.CA (Dave Hale x5501) writes:
>
>In the AT-AT scene in TESB, did anyone notice the glimpse of one of the two
>legged walkers?
>
>It was only on screen for a second or so and isn't seen again until the
>forest scene in ROTJ. 
>
>
>
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>::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Yup, I remember it.  My 7 year old brother (at the time) and myself called it
a 'Chicken Walker' because it kinda looked like a chicken.  Not until pre-ROTJ
photo/fanzine material came out did we know it was called a 'Scout Walker'.

I remember it being made a sorta a joke by the ILM folks.  Initially, it didn't
even have moveable joints.  George saw it on a shelve and said, 'Cool, put it
in the film.'  So, the ILM dudes (and dudettes) tore it apart, reassembled it
with moving parts and put it in the film.  I don't know where this information
comes from, probably some 'Makeing of TESB' type program I watched 13 years
ago.

Ah, what memories.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: joeym@kangaroo.WPI.EDU (Joseph M Malek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Fleet (different ships)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 08:38:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1jtemsINNd60@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon) writes:
>In article <1jselpINNa8i@bigboote.WPI.EDU> haywire@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the Insane On
>e) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone have any idea on how large the Entire Imperial Fleet is??
>>And how many different types of ships there are??
>>
>>All I know is there are three known types
>>1. super star destroyer
>>2. command star destroyer
>>3. star destroyer
>>4. cruiser???
>>
>
>I was under the impression that the *ONLY* Imperial spacecraft were as follows:
>
>1. Super Star Destroyer
>2. Star Destroyer(standard)
>3. TIE Fighter(standard flat-wing style)
>4. Interceptor TIE fighter.
>5. Darth Vader TIE fighter(unique).
>6. Ship-to-ship(assumtion on my part) shuttle (seen in tESB)
>7. Imperial Shuttle (seen in RotJ)
>
>

	There are several types of ships in the Imperial Fleet.  There are
	(of course):
			1.  Super Star Destroyer
			2.  Imperial II Class SD
			3.  Imperial I  Class (slower hyperdrive---by 1x)
			4.  Victory II Class (small cruiser 1/2 size)
			5.  Victory I  Class (slower version)
			6.  Interdictor Class
				-This ship is in between Victory II & I
				 in it's size.  (a very small ship).
				 It can stop a ship in Hyperspace....
				 It emitts a beam that is so many
				 millions of miles wide..any ship 
				 that passes the area is taken out 
				 of hyperspace inmmediately.  Usually
				 an Imperial "speed" trap.
			7.  Dreadnaught Imperial Destroyer
				-These aren't SD's, but their cheaper
				 to make.  They're the same ones 
				 mentioned in SW Dark Force Rising!


	There are various others that I don't remember.....
 	just check out the Imperial source book for the
	pictures and more references.  




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