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Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine. 
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:00:56 +0000

In article <DCAMPBEL.93Jan20151908@timshel.austin.ibm.com> dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com writes:

>
>In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R
> Stickland) writes:
>>p.s. these two GSX-Rs has 'USA' plates on them.  Sorry, Americans, your
>>reputations have been seriously tarnished by these guys!
>
>OH MY GOD!  What will I do now?!?!  Some guy named Stickland in England
>doesn't think much of us Americans because two of us don't ride fast
>enough!  Oh Calamity!
>
>David.
>--

Nahh, there are other reasons too... We'll leave those out for the time being!
:-)

Stephen
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From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 2-Cylinder Honda 500?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:44 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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In article <1993Jan22.092113.1@skcla.monsanto.com>,
	 mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com writes... 
>Quick Question.

>In 1978 or so, was there a 2-cylinder Honda 500 or 550 (or something close?)

>If so, what was it, and were they anything interesting?

	CB500T, I think.  Developed from the old CB450 (the one with torsion-
bar valve springs).  From all reports it was quite a dog, and it only lasted
a year or two.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
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From: erikn@vcd.hp.com (Erik Ness)
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:45:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Dances With Bikers (blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com) wrote:
: 
: Rev 1.1 added 1/4" x 3/4" slats every 6 or 9 inches to give some traction.
: This was because if I didn't have enough approach speed, and I gassed it
: on the ramp to compensate, the tires would just spin on the smooth
: boards. Now I can just putt up into the bed of the truck. I wouldn't
: care to try the stunt on a 2-wheeler, but it works perfectly with the
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^
Back when America's Stupidest Home Videos was popular there was a clip where
someone tried this.  Rode right up that ramp into the short Ranger pickup bed
and looked pretty terrified when he realized that he'd run out of space and
was still going too fast.  Smashed into the front of the bed and the rear
window of the truck just shattered everywhere.

I think I'll stick to pushing mine!   ;)


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From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:55:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.145600.9446@bnr.uk> npet@bnr.ca (Neil Harrington) writes:

Who is Neil Harrington, Nick?

>I'm currently saving all the money I save by riding my BMW masochistic form/
>function moped in order to purchase a _real_ vehicle.  I'm going to get a new
>SAAB.

Nah. Too much trouble. Get a blow-up mattress and sleep in your office.
You can live on that wonderful cafeteria food, have the luxury of 24 hr
security and someone else vacuums the carpet and empties the trash cans. You
could even have movie parties in the auditorium and show all six Star-Trek
flicks to your geeky friends whenever you want. Go *outside*?? Heck no,
it's way too dangerous.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter)
Subject: Re: Information Wanted on 650 Dual-Sports
Keywords: look out below
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:40:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.182303.6451@erg.sri.com> druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth) writes:
>So I'm looking at the following bikes:
>
>    Honda XR650L
>    Kawasaki KLX650 (new for '93)
>    Suzuki DR650S
>
>I'm not considering the Kawasaki KLR650 since its biased too much
>towards the street IMO.

If I was looking for a good dirt-worthy DP bike I would go for the Suzuki
DR350S.  The Honda XR250L probably the best DP bike in the dirt.  I like the
extra 100cc that Suzuki has to offer without any weight gain over thier own
DR250S.  Now if you must have that 650cc, get the Honda.  It had good reviews
in Dirt Rider and MXA magazines.  It's just heavy compared to the XR600R.
Clark and IMS both make large capacity tanks for the XR650L.

                                           Hope this helps,
  
_____________________________________________________________________________
DoD #359                    '91  CR250 |         Mike Baxter   
AMA #607249                      #P61  |              
TCCRA  #P61  "Team D."                 |      baxter@spdc.ti.com
Pro Class	                       |
Texas Cross-Country racing series      |   Texas Instruments, Dallas Tx.   
50 miles of off-road Hell (FUN)        |  
_______________________________________|_____________________________________
Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed above are my very own, becuase 
             if they were worth anything TI would patent them.
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From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Subject: Re: Need info on EX500
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:08:22 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

I had the opportunity to do some tuning on the Vance & Hines Edition
FZR-600 (#600...one of the two most sought after numbers!!! :-) this
summer for a friend of mine.  Naturally my fee was two days' riding
time.

My EX500 is pretty quick and light for an EX, with the Vance & Hines
and Dynojet stuff installed...but this FZR, which we haven't put the
kit on yet, blew it away.

For the record, I think I could have a LOT more fun bouncing around
on an FZR than on a ZX-11...small bikes are where it's at.  More so
for 135 pound riders like myself.

Clint
 _______________________________________________________________________
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 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5/KQCD TV 7/KUMV TV 8   .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.      DoD #5150  
 If Hell freezes over I'll snowboard there too. (No steatopygous chicks)

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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Are BMWs form or function?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:53:08 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>: >>BMW = Bikes Made Well (?)
>:  >BMW = Bite/Break My Wallet
>:   BMW = Bring More Wampum
>    BMW = 
>Big Manly Willy
>Big Moronic Woman
>Badly Made Wobbler
>Big Middleclass Wagon
>Bugger My Wallet
>Brilliant Marvellous Wonderful
>Bavarian Motorcycling Wonder
>Bulging Monoshock Wanderer
Beats Me, Wilhelm

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From: pberck@kub.nl (Peter Berck)
Subject: Did I destroy my battery?!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:21:43 GMT
Organization: KUB, The Netherlands
Reply-To: pberck@kub.nl


Hi,

I left my dead battery on a charger over the weekend. When I looked
at it again, the battery was half empty, and the rest was bubbling.
Can I 'just' fill it up with demineralised water, and re-charge it,
or is it better to get a new one straight away?


-Peter (Keeper of the Divina Commedia)

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From: tbb@sumac02.cray.com (Todd Blachowiak)
Subject: California Superbike School
Originator: tbb@sumac02
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:31:46 CST


All Classes are canceled for 1993. The California Superbike School will not
operate this year. I talked with Keith and he is re-evaluating what he wants
to do. This year he will follow the circuit and do some more research.

Just thought you might like to know.

-- 
Take care,

Todd Blachowiak
KotD #0004
From: ravi@ivy.WPI.EDU (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Need info on EX500
Date: 23 Jan 1993 22:16:03 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, WPI
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu

In a previous article, ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu said:
= 
= 	Your EX is lighter, though.  I'm told that an EX is very competitive
= on the track in its class, as opposed to an FZR600 in its class.
= 	Do you think you actually need that extra 32 HP, cramped riding
= position, and more severe insurance premiums ?
= 	Nahhh..  you have an excellent bike.  Kawasaki's best seller.

    *broad grin* - not to spoil this nice note but i have to add that
    the current issue (at least current for me) of motorcyclist (a very
    respected mag) ranks the suzuki gs500e the "best buy of 1993" and
    "the best entry level motorcycle of 1992". it also goes on to
    call it "suzuki's perennial denizen of the best-buys list". *broader
    grin* ;-)

    peace,

    - ravi

    ps: it would be safe to say that the ex500 most probably would
        smoke the gs500e on the track or for most performance measures!
        the mag does have some good things to say about the ex500 of
        course... but you don't expect me to talk about that do you?


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From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Tank Bag Monopole Magnets
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:52:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.175120.556@pages.com> bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
>Chris BeHanna writes

>dealers of other packs also insist they have these wierd magnets.  Sharp,  
>Lockhart, and Eclipse, to name three.I specifically asked why such-and-such a  
>bag is a good bag and the response was, "It's these magnets, dude."
>
>So, what gives?  They may not be monopole, but enough semi-educated counter  
>jockeys seem to be on to something here.

By the makers of indoor, parabolic-dish antennas and of Ginsu knives.
However, a good scientist must remain open-minded (have holes in his head?).
Does anyone have a tankbag magnet to send to our research facility for
analysis?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: V-TWINS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:37:07 GMT

In article <C19ow4.12z@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>In <espen.22.0@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no> espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (Epsonasjen) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan20.213819.17191@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>>From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
>>>Subject: Re: V-TWINS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:38:19 GMT
>>>In article <348.97.uupcb@compdyn.questor.org> ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau)  writes:
>
>>************************************************************************
>>Espen Olsen				*       The future's so bright
>>Norwegian Inst. of Technology		*       I gotta wear shades
>>N-7034 Trondheim                        *       '74 VOLVO !!!
>>E-mail: espen@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no	*	'57 Speed Twin
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  We will be buying a new house this spring and as my storage space
>increases I feel the need to fill it up.
>  
>  I have a line on a 57 Thunderbird that apparently only needs
>pistons/rings, valves/guides. 
>
>  I'm quite comfortable with the unit motors but have no experience with
>the older stuff. Can I get parts? The rods are supposedly different but I don't
>understand how. What's the chance of finding a Nacelle for it? How bad
>are the monoblocks?
>

Monoblocs are fine. Some (many) feel they are better made than the Concentrics
which replaced them. Nacelle?! hahahahahahahaha! Pure British unobtainium.
Engine and other running gear parts are still available. Sheet metal and
trim pieces are the restorationists holy grail. 

Jeff Achenbach
From: tomes@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:58:55 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>This summer I was touring in Germany.  Two of us on 1986 and 1989 VFR750s,
>both loaded with tank bags, panniers, tents & sleeping bags etc. strapped
>down all over the place.

Which means, to the average idiot, that you looked like a couple of boy scouts
trying to test the abrasion resistance of your tents.

>One was on a GSX-R750, the other on a GSX-R1100.  Both had full race-style
>leathers, race boots, knee-sliders, etc.  No luggage or anything.

Which probably meant that they liked their skins and didn't want the impediment
of having to pick up all the excess padding if they bite the big one.

>We couldn't get past these guys quick enough.  They were so slow it was a
>f***ing disgrace, you could have kept pace on a CB250N!  If it wasn't a
>public road you could have taken them on the inside, the outside, or done
>one, gone up the road, turned round, come back and done it the other way
>too.

Maybe these guys saw you two loaded to the gills and decided that they didn't
want to mix it up with someone they didn't know in a foreign country.

>Of course when the road got straight and we were cruising at a steady 80
>or 90mph, they came past warp speed.  Must have had a throttle lock, their
>right hands were obviously otherwise occupied.

Doing what?  The two things that come to mind are fingering or.. fingering.
Say what you mean.

>p.s. these two GSX-Rs has 'USA' plates on them.  Sorry, Americans, your
>reputations have been seriously tarnished by these guys!

Right! I am definitely upset that these fine individuals were unwilling to
speed up to provide some competition for you.

If I were in a foreign country, and saw a couple of native types blasting 
around, I would probably get out of their way, then MAYBE if I was the 
adventurous type try to follow.  Probably not, it would depend on how illegal
it was.

Get a clue.  Not everyone is out there to kill corners all of the time.

If they did actually flip the bird, then they must have had a bad childhood
and decided to take it out on you.

CP "What the hell am I talking about?" Tomes

another ice and snow week in the hell of the midwest
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: 'tis the season to work on the bike
Keywords: carb rejetting, O-ring chains, fork brace, brake pads
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:09:22 GMT

Earlier, akhamseh@engin.umich.edu (Amir Reza Khamseh) spewed forth:
>
>Greetings netters. This is my first attemp at the wonderful world of news
>networking (Hmmm...I wonder if I should have divulged that info or not.)


Ah Ha!   .edu-breath mistake number 1 <!>

You really called that one right <!!>

That's one clue you've got.  That's *real* progress.


>I would appreciate any and all responses directly to my email
>address (akhamseh@caen.engin.umich.edu)as I sometimes don't have enough time
>to stay abreast of the rec.motorcycles deluge of letters. 

Probably better stick to rec.motorcycles;  I suspect that your email will
be relatively unusable while undergoing the ritual DoD gang-FAQ'ing that
is probably goping to take place.  There will be a lesser deluge on the net.


>Amir Khamseh
>Uh, is this the place and time to request for the DoD #?

You can ask all you want.  
You can ask any place you want, and you can ask any time you want.  
None of it will do you any good.  (almost, there is one place ...)

But, you - just *YOU* - have to figure out what that one place is.  :-)


In the meantime, here's what you do:

(1) As has been said before, you should scrimp and save all your pennies
until you have amassed the DoD required Minimum Bribe Amount (MBA) (tm)
(you have heard of people having a MBA haven't you?).  Then you need to
post back to the net asking for some DoD'er willing to sell you a clue

(2) You can try putting your bra up for bid.  See rules posted last month.

(3) You should count all the copies of the DoD FAQ that are going to 
arrive in your email over the next few weeks.  After your /usr/spool/mail
file system fills clear up four (4) times and your sysadm has threatened
to remove your userid from the system, you should post the FAQ count back
to wreck.moto for the enjoyment of the other inhabitants.


Maybe by that time, someone will take pity on you.    :-)

One DoD FAQ emailed on the way!


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA
From: arturo@informix.com (Arturo Vega)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Whole lotta shakin' ...
Keywords: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHH!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:54:01 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.


So this past Sunday I'm on my way home after a brief jaunt in the
hills. I'm on the freeway, somewhere in the vicinity of 70^H^H55 mph,
on a gentle rain-grooved curve. Suddenly, the front wheel begins to
oscillate rather violently. It wasn't quite a tank-slapper, but it
was way, way more than just a weave. I eased off the throttle, but
this didn't seem to help; then I noticed that my arc was widening &
I was getting close to the guardrail. I firmly leaned the bike over
some more; this seemed to do the trick, although I had also lost about
15mph by this time, which may have helped.

This is the second time this has happened to me (not on the same
machine), and I enjoyed it as little now as I did the first time--
I was still talking to myself after I reached home =8-O

With the bike on the centerstand and someone on the passenger seat,
I tried to move the front axle horizontally back and forth, but could
feel no play; nor could I detect any notchiness while moving the
handlebars from side to side. I noticed a small nick on one fork
tube after I realized the tube had a light coating of oil & a little
"mud" near the top of the fork's travel. Since I recently replaced
the fork seal, it seems to me that the nick may have damaged the new
seal.

So, a few questions to the omniscient net:

1. What's the best reaction to this wobble? Unfortunately, my bike,
   a cm400, cannot elevate its front wheel at that speed, so that's
   not an option :-( Basically all I did was slow down gradually and
   maintain a *very* firm hand on the controls.

2. What might be the possible causes? Is it possible that asymmetrical
   fluid levels in the fork tubes could lead to this behavior? Over
   the course of the past few rides I had observed that at these speeds,
   the bike would require longer intervals to settle after being
   perturbed by road irregularities. At lower speeds I've noticed
   nothing amiss.

3. Will I need to replace the fork tube to avoid chewing up new
   fork seals as fast as I can replace them?

Any and all possible leads would be much appreciated.

Later,

Art "Cheap thrills"
arturo@informix.com
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Cliff Weston)
Subject: This just in....
Originator: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:08:03 GMT

From the "Roundup, Etc." section of the recent-est issue of Cycle World":


Kushitani Reorganizing US Efforts

Kushitani, the well-known Japanese manufacturer of motorcycle riding apparel,
is reorganizing its efforts in the United States.  Kushitani's US sales were
officially suspended in June of last year, and the remaining stock was moved
to a private warehouse near San Francisco.  A Kushitani representative in
Japan said the company is exploring future distribution opportunities in the
US, including GREAT SUMMER PRODUCT RAFFLES!!!!  As of presstime, plans had not
been finalized.

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From: umhaugh0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Bruce A. Haugh)
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:46:50 GMT

In <C1BJEz.AC7@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Abscess makes the fart go HONDA) writes:

>>Has anyone here homebrewed a ramp that they can easily carry in their
>>truck that lets them ride/walk a bike up into the back of their
>>pickup?  

>For my Quadracer I built a couple of ramps out of 2" x 10" (or maybe it
>was 2" x 12") x 6' planks, and an angled steel plate at the tip of each
>ramp, which rests on the tailgate.

>Rev 1.1 added 1/4" x 3/4" slats every 6 or 9 inches to give some traction.
>This was because if I didn't have enough approach speed, and I gassed it
>on the ramp to compensate, the tires would just spin on the smooth
>boards. Now I can just putt up into the bed of the truck. I wouldn't
>care to try the stunt on a 2-wheeler, but it works perfectly with the
>Quad.

>If you don't happen to have a nice chuck of pre-formed steel laying
>around, JC Whitney, Harbor Freight Tools, and probably several others,
>sell extruded aluminum end caps which you just bolt to a plank to create
>an instant ramp. Of course weight is another thing to consider. My pair
>of ramps has no problem with ~500 pounds of Me & Quad, but I don't know
>how well a single board would handle 5-600 pounds of street bike.

Well, I loaded my GS750 onto the back of a pick-up with a 6 ft piece of
2x10 and my bike is about 500lbs.  I had no problem with the board.

Bruce

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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)