From: bancroft@boswell.egr.msu.edu (Delbert Bancroft)
Subject: re: ROTC cadets
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:31:55 GMT

In article <92350.195321JJ9262A@auvm.american.edu>, John A. Jordan Ii. <JJ9262A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
|>      The rank of a cadet depends entirely on what situation they are in.  Some
|> cadets are also enlisted reservists.  They enlisted in the reserves and went
|> through basic training and AIT before joining ROTC.  When these cadets are
|> training with their reserve units then they use their enlisted reserve rank.
|> When cadets are interacting with each other then that same cadet would use his
|> cadet rank (unless all the other cadets were training with the reserve unit
|> while that cadet was assigned to the reserve unit).  When the same cadet is
|> participating in training with a regular or reserve unit that he has been
|> assigned to *as a cadet* then that person would have the rank of cadet.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>      A cadet is not entitled to a salute.  Many enlisted NCO's refer to cadets
|> as "Cad-idiots".  Since they are officer cadets they must use the officers
|> club and *not* the enlisted club.  Having the rank of cadet is roughly
|> equal to being a teenager.  You are expected to act like an adult (officer)
|> but have none of the duties of an adult (officer).  It gets a little
|> complicated at times, but it all ends up making sense in a twisted kind of a
|> way.
|> 
|>      The above information does not represent reality, just my perception
|> of reality.
|> 
|> Cadet Tony Jordan MSIII
|> The American University (through Georgetown University)
|> 


Tony is right, about what he talked about, but he forgot one thing

   When a cadet contacts and is in the National Guards or Army Res.,
He/She is contacting with the ARMY, then he/she is pay E-5 (for the 
Guards) and is in a program called SMP (simultaneous menbership program)
The cadet also gets 100$ form ROTC but must attend all required ROTC functions
and all drills weekends and the 2 week AT. but he/she loses his/her GI bill( The
reason I have not contacted yet 638.00$ a month). My girlfriend who was in the
Guards got a three year ROTC scholarship at CMU  and was booted out of the
Guards, so she lost her drill pay, GI bill, and the Guard repayment plan (something
like that)also she lost  the second half of her bonus (I think she said close to 1,000$)
for a shortage MOS.    

   If you get a two years ROTC scholarship you can stay in the Gaurds, and  
only lose  your GI bill, and your remaining bonus.
  
   Also one other thing happens when you go SMP, your time in service stops,
until you quit ROTC or get your commission. Then your time starts up again.

Just my two cent
                               SPC DEL BANCROFT
                               Mich National Guard

                               C/2LT DEL BANCROFT
                               Mich State Univ. ROTC
                               Pershing Rilfe S-3  


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  P.S. For give spelling mistakes and grammer errors , I'm left handed and a
       EE major.......


     Far better it is to dare mighty things, "
     to win glorious triumphs,"
     even though checkered by failure,"
     than to take rank with those poor spirits"
     who neither enjoy much nor suffer much"
     because they live in the grey twilight"
     that knows not victory nor defeat."

                      Theodore Roosevelt"
                      1858-1919 "
  
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