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From: rgreene@pnet01.cts.com (Robert Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Looking for PALASM for PC
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:16:32 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

I am looking for an old copy of AMD's PAL assembler. AMD has decided that they
should be paid for their efforts and no longer offer it for free.
Previous versions were released free of charge with source code and it is one
of these versions that I am looking for. If anyone knows of a source, please
mail me the address or if you have the assembler and the time , please mail
that.
Thank you, Bob G.
"the velocity of light is the speed limit of the universe
and as such is rigidly enforced by the FBI." - Cecil Adams

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: bruceb@locus.com (Bruce M. Binder)
Subject: Re: VGA on my old XT - can I do it? Sales person says no.
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 17:21:51 GMT

bruceb@locus.com (Bruce M. Binder) writes:
>Comp.sys.ibm.pc'ers
>
>I am considering upgrading the monitor on my XT compatible to VGA.
>I am told that with my motherboard it is impossible since I do not
>have a switch on the motherboard labeled "EGA" which supposedly
>tells the system that I am using a video card with its own BIOS.
>Can anyone confirm or refute this?  Am I stuck with monochrome or
>CGA?

Thank you to everyone who responded to this question in email and
in this newsgroup.  Based on the consensus that VGA is possible on
my XT, I bought a VGA card to connect my machine to my NEC 3D
monitor.  The card was a non brand name adapter with an Oak
Tecnologies video chip.  It's claimed resolution was 1024 x 768.
It had a connector for 8 or 16 bit slots and the documentation
claimed it was compatible with XTs.  I could not get it to display
an image, regardless of the jumper settings on the card or the
switch settings on my monitor.  None of the utility programs that
came with the card (1.2 Mb floppy) had any effect.

I took it back and got a refund.

Then I bought another card, this time an 800 x 600 non brand name
adapter with an Oak Technologies video chip.  It also had a
connector for 8 or 16 bit slots.  It worked perfectly the first
time I turned on the machine.  I did not even change the
motherboard switches to indicate "no monitor".

To answer my own question, "VGA on my old XT - can I do it?", the
answer is a qualified "yes".  I don't know if the higher resolution
of the first card was the problem but I recommend trying more than
one card if there is a problem with the first.

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From: seanm@terapin.com (Sean McCaskey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: WIN*FAX Pro, FAX Modem Soaftware etc.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:32:41 PST
Organization: Not an Organization


  I have a nice little class III fax modem board in my 386.  It works fine
with the softwar that I recieved, but that software is DOS based and poor in
the user interface.  I messed with a friends piece of software for Windows
that was really nice.  I think it was by Alien Systems Software.   In Windows
in added a printer that was actually the FAX board in the printer choice area.


  My question:  Is WIN*FAX Pro similar?  Is there a good FAX program similar
to the above discription that I can buy?  I tried his program on my system and
it did not work.  I assume it is because it was written for a calss I fax.

  Any help?

 ==================================
 Seanm@Terapin.com
 San Pablo CA
 ==================================
From: jackin@vehka.uta.fi (Markku M{enp{{)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: RN for PC (I want to read News in me PC)
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:04:36 GMT
Reply-To: jackin@vehka.uta.fi (Markku M{enp{{)
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

Hello netters,

I am currently writing this with my miserably slow 1200B modem and you
propably understand why I am looking for a news reader for PC.

Basically I would like to do the following :

Save all the unread news to a big file, pack it, download it in my
PC via modem and then read it in my PC, offline (don't want to support
our local tel company too much :-)

So please if there is a solution for this email me.

Thanks in advance

Markku



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From: gold@ilp.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Serial port connection wire?
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:35:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: ilp.1992Apr10.003522.1
Organization: MIT Industrial Liaison Program

I have a question about connecting serial ports between PC's.  At a 
place I work at part-time, we have 5 PC's in different rooms on 
different floor.  We won't be able to afford ANY networking 
options for about 1 year and I need to transfer one hugh file (3MB) 
between computers twice a week.

I have FASTLYNX to transfer files between computers very quickly
via serial lines.  I would like to temporarily run a few wires 
through small holes already in the walls between the serial ports.  
Unfortunately, I know very little about networking wire.  I am 
looking for some about the diameter of typical phone-cord wire that 
plugs into an adapter that, in turn, plugs into a serial port.  (I'll 
take care of pin configurations to be FASTLYNX compatible.)

Does anyone know of inexpensive wire that I can use for the purpose 
described above.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
				- Mark Gold
				GOLD@ILP.MIT.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rohrernl@helix.nih.gov (Nathan Rohrer)
Subject: Dell and Seagate
Keywords: Dell Seagate hard drive
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:01:26 GMT


We are getting in a DELL 433SE that will have a 320 MB ESDI hard drive
in it.  My question is can we install a Seagate ST4384E drive in this
machine as a secondary drive?  Any help would be appreciated.

Nathan Rohrer (rohrernl@helix.nih.gov)
From: dazz@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr d.k. woodman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Clarion Demo
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:14:26 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

Does anyone know if the Clarion Demo program is available
via ftp.

thanks
dazz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps
From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Request for information:  DOS Hypertext applications
Reply-To: cztf@musica.mcgill.ca
Organization: York University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:18:50 GMT

Reposted for someone without news access; please reply by mail to
cztf@musica.mcgill.ca.

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Request for information:  DOS Hypertext applications
 
Does anybody out there know of a program, shareware or commercial, that
can do hypertext and support a bit of animation at the same time?
 
I've tried Alchemy Mindworks' Storyteller, which would be fine except
no animation support, no shelling to dos for freestanding animations,
and will not work from the keyboard; I've tried sandwiching it into
IBM Storyboard, which supports enough animation and can call Storyteller
from within its own Storyteller (yes, they use the same name for one of
the Storyboard Live sub-modules), but thereby limits the navigational
structure; IBM Storyboard cannot be used on its own as the material is
90% text and storing it as bitmaps is of course impractical; and before
you say "Toolbook" I should mention that I don't want this to run under
Windows because the target users have a wide variety of not-so-recent
computers... Any advice would be greatly apreciated!
 
Thanks.
 
Mark Morgenstern, cztf@musica.mcgill.ca        (514) 937-5285
 
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Parts vendors
Keywords: clone parts motherboards monitors cases
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:23:55 GMT


My company is interested in going into the computer reselling business.
We would also like to deal with new equipment for those cases where
a customer wants a new machine.  I've looked through BYTE several times,
and have seen a few vendors of motherboards and parts (nowhere near as
many as there used to be), but before I picked one I wanted to ask if
any of you have had any experience with sellers of clone parts.

Also, is there a better way these days than buying the parts and assembling
the machines?  It's been a few years since we dabbled in the PC market,
so we're a little out of touch.

Any comments or suggestions are much appreciated.  Please reply via
email (I don't normally read this group).
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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.terminals
Subject: Re: VT340 emulation on MS-DOS PC
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:02:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc

umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Adam Thompson) writes:
: I have a couple of suggestions:
:  
[suggestions about VT340 emulators]
:

  I'm writing a Term emulator for Mac, it already emulates VT52, VT100 and
i'm looking for the specifications of the VT340 to integrate it with the
software.

  Could some kind sole tell me where can i find a reference manual for the
VT340 ?. 

  Thanx 
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From: adavies@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Anthony Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Amstrad 2086 coprocessor????
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:27:36 GMT
Organization: Institute of Virology, Oxford, UK

Does anyone know of a suitable make of maths coprocessor for an Amstrad 2086 
machine?

Email replies gratefully received;-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Cirrus Logic VESA Super-VGA driver needed
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:18:26 GMT

Hi.  My brother recently became the owner of a MS-DOS clone-type machine.
Everything's working pretty well, but he says he needs something called
a "Cirrus Logic VESA Super-VGA driver" in order to fully utilize the
graphics card in his computer.  Could someone please direct me, then,
to a possible source for the aforementioned driver?  He and I would
be most grateful.

Because any responses I might get are probably of very little general
interest, email replies would probably be best, but I'll keep an eye
on this group for a while, just in case an answer is posted.  Thanks in
advance for any help someone can provide.


-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor)
Subject: Re: WIN*FAX Pro, FAX Modem Soaftware etc.
Organization: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 07:17:04 GMT

seanm@terapin.com (Sean McCaskey) writes:


>  I have a nice little class III fax modem board in my 386.  It works fine
>with the softwar that I recieved, but that software is DOS based and poor in
>the user interface.  I messed with a friends piece of software for Windows
>that was really nice.  I think it was by Alien Systems Software.   In Windows
>in added a printer that was actually the FAX board in the printer choice area.


>  My question:  Is WIN*FAX Pro similar?  Is there a good FAX program similar
>to the above discription that I can buy?  I tried his program on my system and
>it did not work.  I assume it is because it was written for a calss I fax.

The FAX package by Alien is probably superior to WinFAX pro.  I had WinFAX pro
and returned it for a refund.  The software was half-baked trash, and the
customer support was a pathetic slap in the face.  I intend to purchase
the Alien Software fax package soon to replace the returned WinFAX junk.
I am using the cheap software provided with the card for the time being.


>  Any help?

Just don't buy WinFAX!

> ==================================
> Seanm@Terapin.com
> San Pablo CA
> ==================================

Mark Jeghers
UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
408/281-4823 [voicemail]
From: gt1174a@prism.gatech.EDU (Horkan Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: NetBios over packet driver?
Keywords: NetBios packet driver
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:02:28 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Question:  Are there any PC NetBios implementations out there that run
           on top of a packet driver?  If so, could someone please
           tell me how to get one?  'Net'ware, commercial, even half
           finished source are all acceptable....

           If there is interest, I will summarize to the net.

thanks,
   horkan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: gwo@fraser.sfu.ca (Bernard Wei)
Subject: Re: Help needed: AdLib and Windows 3.1
Keywords: AdLib Windows3.1 help
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:56:14 GMT

warren@tis.llnl.gov (Fred Warren) writes:

>After spending most of the weekend doing the "easy" upgrade to Windows 3.1
>and chasing around getting new video drivers, the darn thing works - mostly.
>One I haven't nailed yet is getting the new sound program to sing through
>our AdLib board.  The Windows 3.1 package has an AdLib driver and it loads ok,
>but when soundrec comes up it says I need to install a sound driver.  Duh.

Adlib card can't record voices, so only the Media Player would run.
Sound Recorder would work with Roland/Sound blaster and other cards that
support voice recording.

Bern

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From: john@banach.WPI.EDU (John F Stoffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,wpi.sys.ibm,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Need a Screen DUmp Utility
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:20:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: banach.JOHN.92Apr9152022
Organization: Phule's Company


Hello net,
	I need a program to take screen dumps of a Turbo Pascal 6.0 -
Turbo Vision program that I wrote so they can be included into a
document.  I would prefer something that dumps to the PostScript
format, but I can deal with just about any format.  There are no hires
graphics in the screens, everything is done with character graphics.

	Pointers to an ftp site are more than welcome.  Please email
me, since I don't read these groups.  Thanks!

				John Stoffel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: brent@cco.caltech.edu (Brent R. Eubanks)
Subject: QUESTION about XMS memory
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:29:42 GMT

I have a 286-12 with one meg of memory.  Yet after I install
HIMEM.SYS, doing mem /c tells me I have only ~200K available XMS
memory -- somewhere in there I lost 100+ K of XMS memory.  Is this
normal with HIMEM.SYS?  IS there any way around it?  Are there any
upper memory managers that avoid this problem?


-- 
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brent@cco.caltech.edu         The rest of us will go to the stars." -- R.H.
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From: shahak@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Itay Shahak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: MAIL orders to anywhere (out of USA)?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:22:27 GMT
Organization: ITEX, Jerusalem, Israel

hello.

  can anyone tell me where to find catalogs to *mail* order
  computer equipment to any where (i need it to Israel, and
  all the ads i've seen are limited to North America.

thanks!

-itay

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From: ejohnson@cs.washington.edu (Eric Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Stupid SVGA tricks...
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:42:01 GMT
Organization: Sarah Brady Fan Club

I just got a SVGA card and monitor. Does anyone know of a place to get 
Demos, etc that can use the SVGA modes? I can fake an 8514. 

The dealer had a really cool demo that looked like a ray-trace of silver
balls hovering over something like a checkerboard, and the balls were 
spinning. It was really cool. 

I basically just want something to show off. Thanks.         

I'd also like some 1024x768x256 gifs if anyone knows a site where some 
might be stashed. Thanks.

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From: failsafe@cellar.org (Failsafe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Order from Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW)?
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:47:15 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

haibo@bones.caedm.byu.edu (haibo yu) writes:

> I am planning to buy some stuff from the CDW in IL.  Their prices listed in
> PC World are good.  I have several questions before I place the order:
> 	1. Do they deliver the parts ordered in time?
> 	2. How is the reputation of CDW (service, product quality)?
> 
> I need commonts from anyone who has ordered from CDW before.  Thanx.
> 
> Haibo Yu

I've had no problems with CDW in the past. My last purchase was a USR dual
standard which came exactly when promised. Subsequently, I've had occasion
to call them and found some of their sales staff to be somewhat lacking in
knowledge but that's really not surprising. I'd have no hesitation to order
from them again, but wouldn't rely on their recommendations (or any sales
staff).

Steve Roth
Philadelphia, PA.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rjg@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Russell Gladden)
Subject: Canadian Retailers
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:52:07 GMT

I'm looking for informaion on Canadian mail-order software and hardware
retailers (preferably those with toll-free numbers; Orion's dropped theirs).
In particular, I'm in the market for a decent '386DX-25 or -33 motherboard.
Any pointers, praise, or horror stories would be appreciated.  Please reply
via e-mail, and I'll post a summary here in a few weeks.  Thanks.

/|\ Russ.

 
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134-B Patrick Street, St. John's /~~~~~~~~~~|  I turn to my computer, and
Newfoundland, Canada, A1E 2T1. /    Crisis? |  spend my evenings with it
Telephone: (709) 753-5463.   / What Crisis? |  like a friend..." -- Kate Bush.
From: kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: ???'s about sound cards
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:06:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: mac.1992Apr12.180610.2423
Organization: Macalester College

I am looking to buy a sound card for my 386 and could use some advise......I
know very little about whats available and what to look for the bare necesities
of a sound card.  I am sick of the buzzes and beeps, so I'm ready to invest....
Will I need to buy much software to accompany the sound card?  Will I be able
to install it myself?  How much will it cost?

thanks for your wisdom,
karen
KERNST@MACALSTR.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Reputable mail order?
From: white@hawk.uucp (Kevin S. White)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:18:50 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept

    Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with any of the following
companies?  They are currently advertising in PC Magazine:

V-COM Enterprises, Inc.  Duarte CA

COMPUDYNE/COMPUSA

Computer Sales Professionals in Sommerset N.J.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Kevin White (white@csvax.cs.ukans.edu) University of Kansas
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From: grohol@novavax.UUCP (John Grohol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Subject: Re^2: uw (unix windows) is great!
Keywords: comm software; multi windows
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:09:48 GMT
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL

msingh@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (The Supreme Commander) writes:

>>>Today i opened up simtel:modem/uw*zip, a package named "unix windows".

>Has anyone gotten the terminal emulations to work correctly? i would
>ideally like a vt100 emulator, since adm31 doesn't recognize the PC
>cursor keys. (Then again I'm no UNIX guru, and wouldn't know how to
>fix it if it were easy..)

Try using the preferred vt52 emulation then. In the latest
version of uw (103, I believe), the PC cursor keys work
fine in an editor such as vi. Version 102, the keys didn't work.
Contact the author for further information.

I've been using it  alot.. very nice!


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  go I." -- Laurie Anderson               ::  grohol@novavax.nova.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: WIN*FAX Pro, FAX Modem Soaftware etc.
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:03:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.071704.696@shawn.uucp> root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor) writes:
> 
> The FAX package by Alien is probably superior to WinFAX pro.  I had WinFAX pro
> and returned it for a refund.  The software was half-baked trash, and the
> customer support was a pathetic slap in the face.  I intend to purchase
> the Alien Software fax package soon to replace the returned WinFAX junk.
> I am using the cheap software provided with the card for the time being.

Winfax Pro is far and away the best fax software I've seen. It works like a
dream on my 386SX/25mhz PC under Windows 3.0a. I use MS Word for Windows v1.1.
 
The output looks like it came off a laser printer and it will do any graphic I
include to a similar level of quality.
 
What was your problem with it? I think is absolutely fantastic and for the
price I would recommend it to anyone!

> 
> Just don't buy WinFAX!
> 
> Mark Jeghers
> UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
> 408/281-4823 [voicemail]
> 

I say buy it! You didn't try to run it under UNIX, did you, Mark?.....:-)
 
Steve


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