HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1 /dev/lp*: name incompatible with MS-DOS
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:18:21 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

In article <92122793@reseau.rd.macrofield.or.jp> kenji@rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
>Michael Willett (wizard@teal.csn.org) wrote:
>: 	The anser is in the FAQ.  (Who takes care of it anyway?)  :)
>: 	Coherent lpt ports and MS-WHAT ports are different.
>
>Well, I wonder WHY MWC made it different. *sigh*

Coherent and all other commercial UNIX systems are different than MSDOS.
Coherent looks at the parallel ports in a logical manner from low address
to high address.  MSDOS has it's own wierd way of addressing the ports,
in that it justs takes the first parallel port it finds to be lpt1, no
matter what it's memory address is.  

Usually, it should only matter if you have more than one parallel port on
your system.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	merk!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: kestas@lith.UUCP (Kestutis Sliupas)
Subject: Formatting floppies bug?
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:48:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Vacaville, CA

Hi:
	In the man for fdformat, it states that "using the raw
device speeds up formatting noticeably". This seems to be in
error. I formatted a 3.5" floppy disk and time reports the 
following:

Device		Real 	User	Sys
fva1		1:05.3	0.0	0.1
rfva1		1:05.1	0.0	0.1
fd1135ds18	1:05.1	0.0	0.1
rfd1135ds18	1:05.1	0.0	0.1
fd1135ds18	4:48.8	1.2	1.7	(-v) verify option
rfd1135ds18	4:49.2	1.2	0.3		"
fva1		4:48.9	1.2	1.6		"
rfva1		4:48.9	1.3	0.3		"
Note: fva1 linked to fd1135ds18, ditto for raw device.

	Strange; does man mean "decreases system time"? It
certainly does not decrease real time. Also, using the system
for other jobs gives a *very* noticeable delay, on the order of
seconds. 

	Can this be linked to the *slow* IDE hard-disk driver
problem? Any comments? Any fixes? Any better HD/FD drivers
out there?
				Regards, Kestas

 Kestutis Sliupas            x  (510) 231-1540 (work voice) 
 kestas%lith@infopro.com     x  (510) 231-1285 (work FAX) USA CA  
 kestas@infopro.com          kestas%lith@uunet.uu.net 
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com (Jack O. Coats)
Subject: Re: Where did our FAQ go?  Should we have a
Reply-To: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:27:11 GMT

Steve,

Would you please post or send me a copy of a current Coherent FAQ?

Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: schwaigr@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jim Schwaiger)
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard? 
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 15:50:48 GMT

The keyboard with which I have been having trouble is a Keytronics
(recommended by MWC).  Although I am cheap, my keyset is not.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:45:20 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <725222948snz@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.233912.8851@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> schwaigr@news.weeg.uiowa.edu writes:
>
>>I have observed a similar problem with the keyset, which curiously 
>>enough is on a 40 MHz 386 system.  The very same keyboard works fine
>>on my 33 MHz 486 system, and the 386 system (and the keyboard) work
>>fine in every other respect for DOS applications.
>>
>>Not sure where the problem is, although I have speculated that it
>>may be in the BIOS.
>
>You're right - I've just tried the other keyboard with my new
>machine and it makes no difference. I guess it must be BIOS,
>although the other machine has an AMI BIOS too. My new machine's
>BIOS is also AMI, but slightly more recent (and no "advanced
>chipset setup" options).

The problem is in the keyboard.  Coherent uses alternate keycode set 3 for
the virtual consoles.  Cheap keyboards often neglect to include this set.

I have a Northgate Omnikey/101 keyboard which works just fine.  It cost
$95 with tax.  You get what you pay for.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	merk!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: kkress@phent.UUCP (Kenneth R. Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: mwcbbs contents: explanation of postings
Keywords: mwcbbs contents awk explanation
Organization: That's Entertainment BBS
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 13:20:36 EST

	I've posted reformatted versions of the Contents files available
on mwcbbs as of 12/19/92. They are in /rdb form and sorted by date
beginning with the most recent. They can be searched easily with 
awk or grep. 
E.g.,

contents.awk "^tin" < 32bit.contents produces:
Filename: tin117.tar.Z
Date: 921210
Size: 331635
Description: Updated tin newsreader from version 1.16
Notes: none
Requirements:  none

cat contents.awk produces:
#!/bin/sh
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		NAME: contents.awk
#		COPYRIGHT: Copyright 1992 Kenneth R. Kress
#		USAGE: USAGE="usage: $0 pattern < file"
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
USAGE="usage: $0 pattern < file"

# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		DESCRIPTION:
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
# contents.awk - reads a table with columns
# 	file	date	size	description	notes	requirements
#	and returns lines matching the pattern. The output format
#	includes descriptive labels and fields are separated by
# 	newlines; records are terminated by a blank line.


# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		TRAP:
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
TMP=/tmp				# modify to suit

echo "$USAGE" > $TMP/$$tmp		# so trap has something to remove
trap "rm -f $TMP/$$*" 0 1 2 3 15


# #####################################################################	#
#		CODE BEGINS						#
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#

awk '
BEGIN {
	FS = "\t"
	ONE = "Filename:"
	TWO = "Date:"
	THREE = "Size:"
	FOUR = "Description:"
	FIVE = "Notes:" 
	SIX = "Requirements: "
}
/'"$1"'/ {
	print ""		# blank line between records
	print ONE, $1
	print TWO, $2
	print THREE, $3
	print FOUR, $4
	print FIVE, $5
	print SIX, $6
}'

# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
# 		CLEAN EXIT
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#

exit 0
===================================================================
Ken Kress, Glenside, PA * dsinc!phent!kkress 
	Daring ideas are like chessmen moved forward;
	they may be beaten, but they may start a winning game.
					Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: JBHARLAN@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU (John B Harlan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: PortFAQ available for retrieval
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:07:37 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


     The PortFAQ document distributed on the list and newsgroup
recently is now available for individual, auto-magic retrieval from
the Coherent Filelist on ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu by sending
ListServ the following command:

                         Get Coherent PortFAQ

as the body (not the Subject: field) of an e-mail or interactive
message.  Please note:  this command must be sent to the server
(i.e., ListServ), not the list.  Thanks.                 ^^^^^^


                  Your Coherent list co-coordinator,

                            John B Harlan

                     JBHarlan@IndyVAX.IUPUI.Edu

            Send postings to Coherent@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu
            Send commands to ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu
From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU (Charles Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Running f2c under Coh. 4.01
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:38:05 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> I'm keen to run Fortran 77 programs under Coherent 4.01 so I've
> obtained and installed f2c (fortran to C converter) from raven.
> However, although the program seems to convert f77 to C without
> problems, the resulting C code won't compile - I get the message
> "libF77.a: undefined symbol 'onexit' in module main.o", or
> something similar.
>
> I've recompiled both libF77.a and libI77.a on my machine without
> problems, but the problem still remains. The person who ported
> f2c to Coherent obviously had it running - what am I doing wrong?

        Have you looked in the libF77.a archive to see if oneexit is in there
or in the other file?  I used f2c on my Linux machine and it seemed to work.
I'll try it out tonight and see if I can find out how onexit is used/etc.
I have a Fortran 77 compiler on my Linux system.  I wonder if you could get
it for Coherent?  Its free and works great.  If you are interested, I might
see where it can be obtained and maybe someone will port it to Coherent.

>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Zanker          |  Mail : mike@mallard.demon.co.uk
> 10 Mount Gardens     |
> Leeds  LS17 7QN      |  Voice: +44 532 675893
> United Kingdom       |
>
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 11:04:44 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <725296546snz@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <9212241845.23@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP writes:
>
>>In article <725222948snz@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk writes:
>>
>>>You're right - I've just tried the other keyboard with my new
>>>machine and it makes no difference. I guess it must be BIOS,
>>>although the other machine has an AMI BIOS too. My new machine's
>>>BIOS is also AMI, but slightly more recent (and no "advanced
>>>chipset setup" options).
>>
>>The problem is in the keyboard.  Coherent uses alternate keycode set 3 for
>>the virtual consoles.  Cheap keyboards often neglect to include this set.
>>
>>I have a Northgate Omnikey/101 keyboard which works just fine.  It cost
>>$95 with tax.  You get what you pay for.
>
>In this case, why does my father's 386sx25 run Coherent with
>virtual consoles, but his keyboard on my machine doesn't? Surely
>the problem cannot then be with the keyboard. Similarly, the new
>keyboard on my machine works OK on my father's machine with vc's
>but not on mine.

Good question.  I have a 386DX/33 with OPTI chipset and AMI BIOS.  The
motherboard manual says that it uses an 8042 keyboard controller chip.
My old 84 key AT keyboard does not work with virtual consoles on this
machine.  The Northgate keyboard solved the problem.

Does your motherboard have any jumpers that are associated with the
keyboard controller chip?

MWC would have to have your complete system in order to debug the problem.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	merk!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pred@iitmax.iit.edu (Predrag S. Bundalo)
Subject: Re: Working lex for v4.0?
Organization: IIT--Institute of Increasing Tuition.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 11:26:11 GMT

In article <9212243066@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca> root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser) writes:
>Pred, I tried your code. Indeed flex produced >1 megabyte before a stopped
>it. It must have the double-per-cent-sign at the end of the spec (%%) or
>flex will copy infinitely what ever is actually there ( end of file ). I
>think this is a flex bug. At any rate, if you install the "%%", it will
>flex up ok.

Um . . . how did you know that would fix it?

Anyway, a kind netter sent me the latest COHERENT version and it works fine.

[. . . code deleted . . .]

>I think this is probably what you are trying to achieve. BTW, very 
>interesting code. Looks useful for parsing ftpmail commands and other
>network stuff.

Yes, that's exactly it.  And your first guess at its purpose was correct:
it's an ftpmail-commands parser.  I'm working on a public version since
DEC refuses to release its sources.

Respectfully,

Pred Bundalo
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Cheap keyboard?
Distribution: world
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
Reply-To: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:41:01 +0000

I've just got a new 33mhz 386sx and have attempted to install
Coherent on it. I have been using Coherent on my father's 25mhz
386sx without problems, but this new machine seems to have
keyboard problems.

I specified 4 virtual consoles and the UK keyboard driver during
setup, but as soon as Coherent loads from the hard disk and asks
"Insert a disk from the installation kit and hit <Enter>." I get
an "a" when I press <Enter>. Similarly, all the other keys are
wrong - the keyboard is completely screwed up.

I've circumvented the problem by specifying no vc's and no
keyboard drivers - this seems to do the trick. However, it's not
satisfactory - I want vc's and I (understandably) want a UK
keyboard!

Can anyone suggest a solution? I seem to remember hearing about a
patch for this very problem - can someone point me in the right
direction?

I'll be eternally grateful to anyone who can help!

Regards,

Mike
-- 
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10 Mount Gardens     |
Leeds  LS17 7QN      |  Voice: +44 532 675893
United Kingdom       |
From: root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Colorado Systems - Conversation
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:53:17 GMT
Organization: RWSYS Exporter BBS system

dfilip@colornet.com () writes:
> Tony Porczyk writes:
> >rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
> >>Tony Porczyk writes:
> >
> >>>That's a noble intention.  Just show me a tape drive first that's as
> >>>inexpensive as Colorado and as proven as Colorado.
> >>>I think we should try to convince them first.
> >>
> >>The real answer is SCSI tape.
> >>Tape drives that connect to floppy controllers suck.
> >
> >Agreed.  That still doesn't answer my question, though.  Have you compared
> >the prices for SCSI tapes vs. floppy tapes lately?  Also, for many small
> >businesses floppy tape solutions are more than sufficient (if a bit slow).
> 
> And I finally write :
> 
> There is a BIG price differential between floppy-attached drives (i.e., the
> Colorado QIC drives) and SCSI drives. For those of us who use this as a hobby,
> the price of a SCSI tape may be difficult to justify.
> 
> Yes, the floppy-attached tapes are quite a bit slower, however they sure beat
> popping in dozens of diskettes ! And since Coherent is a $99 Unix, I would
> think that cost would be a factor for many current Coherent users.

I believe the Coherent crowd is too diverse for just one drive or the other.
I think this is where Coherent differs from other nix'es. Cost IS of
consequence and for some it means the difference between tape/no-tape.
For others, the floppy tape will ultimately cost more due to
slow speed and higher rate of failure.

We need both floppy type and SCSI. 
	
It also sounds the SCSI device drivers need to be optimized
further, in order to better meet the more critical demands of those who
need to use SCSI in the first place.

I'd rather use SCSI, because of the variety of devices available, and
because I can mount so many on a single driver. But I too have a floppy
type budget.

Randy Wright
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Randy Wright)      | Exporter BBS     2400 bps
                or                          | (604) 581-0518     8N1
    Randy_Wright@Mindlink.bc.ca             | uucp         ogin: uguest
                                            | interactive login: guest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Where did our FAQ go?  Should we have a new FAQ admin?
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:22:18 GMT
Organization: APK Public Access Unix * Cleveland, OH
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

H.C. Pulley (hcp@csx.cciw.ca) wrote:
: I haven't seen the FAQ for a long time.  I have mailed it to a few people who
: requested it over the last few months but have not seen a copy in this group.
: 
: Mike (mike@array.com), are you still with us?  Mike is/was the FAQ maintainer.
: 
: We should get a new FAQ out soon.  There never really was a Coherent 386 FAQ 
: since Mike had his motherboard die before he could look at Coherent 4.0.  He 
: said he was getting new motherboard but we haven't heard from him since 
: September, I think.
: 
: Does someone want to maintain the FAQ?  If no one else volunteers, I volunteer
: myself.

I can do it if you want.
-- 
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(216) 481-9436 <2400 baud>     (216) 481-9425 <v.32bis, TurboPEP>
Telnet: wariat.org   To register: send e-mail to info@wariat.org, or
log in to BBS and download file 'user.new' from file area 2.

Also President of The Tiny Software Co.   E-Mail Address: sjsobol@tiny.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.linux,comp.os.386bsd,dc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
From: pcolsen@super.org (Peter C Olsen)
Subject: Wanted: COHERENT 3.x
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:16:56 GMT


I want to buy a legal copy of Coherent 3.x from someone who
has abandoned it.  I want to install it on a '286 portable to use as a
mail-server, so I need the older version.

Thanks

-- 
  Peter Olsen, PE, n2ell, pcolsen@super.super.org  ...!uunet!super!pcolsen
          P.O. Box 410, Simpsonville, MD 21150; 410-997-8584
     "Engineering is the art of applying a professional knowledge of
   mathematics and the physical sciences to improve the quality of life"
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: w-news hist file
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Sun,  3 Jan 93 20:44:35 GMT

Superuser (root@gornem.UUCP) wrote:
: could some one tell me the best way to handle the history file for w-news

Truncate it to the last 10 days or so after you runned expire.
--
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udo@umunk.GUN.de   ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo   CIS: 100021,2515
uucp: +49 2131 278869 V22/32/42bis 8N1 login: uucp pwd: public MYNAME=bbsuser
request file /usr/spool/uucppublic/info for instructions
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Re: Cheap keyboard? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
Reply-To: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:05:39 +0000

In article <1992Dec25.201141.18863@csx.cciw.ca> hcp@csx.cciw.ca writes:

>In article <725296546snz@mallard.demon.co.uk> mike@mallard.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>>>>BIOS is also AMI, but slightly more recent (and no "advanced
>>>>chipset setup" options).
>
>Now this may be a red herring since supposedly this problem only shows up under
>DOS due to fast A20-gate switching, but I thought I would bring it up anyways:
>
>What is at the end of the BIG BIOS serial number when the machine boots?  For 
>the latest keyboard BIOS (for AMI) there should be the letters 'KF' or at least
>an 'F'.  With earlier revisions of this BIOS, I have heard that there are 
>problems with the keyboard in protected mode due to the A20 gate.  Earlier 
>versions include 'KA', 'K8' and 'KD'.
>
>Does your machine have a 'Fast A20 gate' option in CMOS setup?  In the article
>that discusses the A20-gate problem it says that setting this option should 
>always be done; it may make the problems go away.

Hmm - I've justed booted up and the serial number ends -F. Fast
A20 Gate is also enabled. Next? :-)

>I wonder if the 'cheap keyboard problem' is an entirely different and 
>unconnected phenomena?

Who knows? If I have to stick with this "standard" US setup, will
my system support other device drivers, such as those required
for MGR? Everything else seems to be working OK.

Regards,

Mike
-- 
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10 Mount Gardens     |
Leeds  LS17 7QN      |  Voice: +44 532 675893
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From: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Available RAM?
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:14:19 GMT
Reply-To: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Organization: A.T.W.W.

Does anyone know of a way or have a program that will tell you at any
given moment how much free RAM is available while running multi-user?

I figure this program would need to peek into some kernel structures
to figure this kind of thing out like ps figures things out.  If
someone could point me in the right direction,  which header files
to look at, places in the manual to look etc. I'd appreciate that too.

Thanks.
-- 
+--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
|   Michael Faurot   | Domain: mfaurot@phzzzt.UUCP		             |
|   ------- ------   | UUCP: ...!{irscscm|mimsy}!bogart!phzzzt!mfaurot       |
+--------------------+--------------------+----------------------------------+
| Fleischman:  Ed, are you hallucinating? |    I wanna go home with the      |
|         Ed:  Oh yeah, but not right now.|  Armadillo . . . --Gary P Nunn   |
+-----------------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: ed@invid.mwc.com (Ed Bravo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Software Request
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:29:08 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> Dear Santa,
>   I would like an ANSI C compiler so I can do the homework for my
> Advanced C Programming class, next term, under Coherent.
>   I have been a good boy.
>                  -Mike   (mtarrant@atk.com)
>
Well, Mikey, Santa has learned that MWC is currently porting GNU C and
C++ for Coherent, which should be ready in January.  Both compilers are
being offered in one package for $49.95, and can also be obtained
inside a "Developer's Package" that saves you $40.00!  Just call
Customer Support for more information, or EMail sales@mwc.com

Hope you had a nice Christmas!
From: ed@invid.mwc.com (Ed Bravo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: tar with Coherent 4.0.1 Reply
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:26:03 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> In article <7ia8sB1w164w@darktow.GUN.de> tn@darktow.GUN.de writes:
>
> >I've massive problems with tar extracting under Coh 4.0.1.
> >I got cnews from raven and try to unpack it.
> >

Also try the command v7tar.
                Ed
ed@mwc.com

> >tar xf cnews.tar
> >
> >Then tar starts and says something like:
> >
> >cnews.tar: this doesn't look like a tar archive
>
> Sounds like you may be ftp'ing them as ASCII instead of BINARY. I
> did this (by accident) and got the same thing. When you next ftp
> to raven, type "binary" at the ftp> prompt before you "get" the
> archive.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Zanker          |  Mail : mike@mallard.demon.co.uk
> 10 Mount Gardens     |
> Leeds  LS17 7QN      |  Voice: +44 532 675893
> United Kingdom       |
>