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From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: Physiological Effects of LSD
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: alt.drugs
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:56:52 GMT

mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:

>In article <BxrKK7.AIz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> obradovi@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zo Obradovic) writes:
>>Can anyone tell me what the physiological effects of LSD are, apart from

>correct about the serotonin.  It is the inhibitor substance (it could be
>a protein or hormone) in our brain.  In a normal state of conciousness,
>we typically use only 10% of our brainpower at any given moment.  When
>LSD enters the central nervous system, the chemical
>(d-lysergic acid diethylamide), LSD-25, attactes to the serotonin,
>causing the natural resistance to be reduced.  In turn, this causes the
>electrical current flowing between the neurons to run with far less
>resistance.  If you think of your CNS as an engine, LSD could be thought

Ohmygod. Thank you for playing, but...no. First, Serotonin is NOT
'the inhibitor substance' in the brain. Serotonin's effect is mimicked
in CERTAIN parts of the brain >BY< LSD.  LSD does not attach itself to
Serotonin. It is an agonist. That means it acts like Serotonin. There
are 5 types of Serotonin receptor in the brain. LSD will interact with
ONE of them. The effect is felt predominantly in the limbic system, and
in certain association areas (tempoparietal, for one). 

The phrase 'we typically use only 10% of our brainpower at any given moment'
is hogwash. It isn't the percent usage that matters. It's the quality of 
the transmission. There is increased activity at serotonin using synapses,
but it has NOTHING to do with the way you portrayed it. The LSD, when it
interacts with the serotonin receptor, does so imperfectly.

Also, where serotonin is concerned, you do NOT have electrical current
flowing between the neurons. You have a chemical released at one that 
stimulates the next. Please don't think of your CNS as an engine, and as
LSD as high-octane fuel. That's TOO simplistic. Understanding basic 
neurology is actually pretty simple. It's not THAT simple, though.


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From: schrey@oak.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy M. Schreyer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.drugs.usenet
Subject: Re: LSD manufacture
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: schrey@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <1992Nov20.073607.7080@u.washington.edu>, lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
|> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
|> >Actually, the most important stuff on Usenet happens in organic processing
|> >units contained within the small, bulbous upper portions of the anatomies
|> >of a curious species referred to as homo sapiens sapiens -- so I would argue
|> >that Usenet is indeed organic.
|> 
|> Wow.  I thought you all were AI programs under development...  this is news
|> to me...
|> 
|> -- 
|> Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
|>   "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
|>                                       -- Robert Anton Wilson

   Wow. And what makes you think we all were AI programs under development?
   Would you say that this is news to me, also?  Tell me more.

   Eliza.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Jeremy Matz <ILMJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Marijuana Legend
X-Xxdate: Sat, 21 Nov 92 12: 14:52 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jam3@cornell.edu
Organization: The Hemp Coalition at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:11:35 GMT

I read in the book, "Marijuan the First Twelve Thousand Years" that there
is an ancient Chinese myth that after smoking everyday for a hundred
days, 'one can see spirits'.  I have noticed that after smoking heavily
(at least once a day) that after a couple of months, the high changed. 
It seemed to become more hallucinogenic, more philosophical, less silly
and giggly.  My main interests is the more hallucinogenic part.  Has
anyone experienced this?  Does anyone know why this happens?

																																															It's time we came out of
the closet.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: HEMP PAPER! ORDER NOW! HERE'S HOW!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:46:47 GMT

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

>mcbeeb@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Brian Mcbee) writes:
>>I just noticed something in the latest Consumer Reports: "Trees used for paper
>>are usually grown on tree farms for that purpose and are harvested at
>>sustainable rates.  Virtually no paper comes from the logging of ancient,
>>irreplacable forests."
>>
>>Now I know Consumer Reports isn't really a primary source on this, but I
>>tend to trust them.  Comments anyone?
>
>I would agree with you actually.
>
>However, I would presume that hemp would grow fast enough and produce
>enough biomass that it would be more than competetive with these tree
>farms.

True.

The main reason I wanted to speak up was on McBee's comment.  While it's
true that most paper trees are farm-grown, most forest destruction is
performed in the pursuit of hardwood for construction and furniture.  Part
of Brazil's problem is the rabid pursuit of mahogany and other tropical
woods.  We do the same thing here concerning redwood, oak, walnut, and
cedar, and any carpenter will tell you that most wooden construction lumber
is pine.  While hemp is wonderful for paper, I don't think you could build
a house out of it. =-)

-- 
 davE.  Making the world safe for intelligent dance music.  dave@bradley.edu.
######### David L. Vessell -- Bradley University Computing Services #########
From: at990@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David William Daniels)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LSD...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:47:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at990@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David William Daniels)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


So how long is acid detectable in ones body and any traces of it? 
How reliable is your information? 
.Would appreciate any responses asap.
Also, how reliable is goldenseal & zydot with all marijuana tests, and
the most common ones from courts...

Peace out.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.sci.physics.new-theories
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Blurb for McKenna's "Timewave Zero"
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:13:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.202414.5495@impmh.uucp> dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon
 writes:
>In <30431@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> mstemper@ems.cdc.com (Michael Stemper
 writes:
>>In article <1992Nov14.054146.19208@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mporter@nyx.cs
du.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:
>>>                                  If his theory is confirmed then we
>>>can look forward to a rough ride (but a highly interesting one) in the
>>>twenty-three years leading up to the climactic end- point of history
>> ??????????????????
>>>in December, 2012.
>>              ????
>>
>>I suppose the psychedelics explain the three year gap?
>
>No, he actually posted this article in 1989, but its "novelty"
>caused it to take three years to crawl out onto the net :-}
>-- 
>
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>========================================================================
======


 23 is also appropriate for the event at hand... (for all of you I
Chingers...)

St. Anthony

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From: kg1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin Paul Goldman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:06:39 GMT
	<1ddl6sINNjpc@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Organization: Senior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

jagged@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:


>Warning: First timers should not watch this because it envokes a sort
>of paranoia that only experienced people know how to deal with. Even
>for pro's it gets a little hairy towards the end. Have fun and don't
>de-evolve!!!!!!!! 

Substitute Altered States for Jacob's Ladder. It works there too.

Mongo
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Sodium Pentatol - availability
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:47:26 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Nov18.032452.22798@netcom.com> djohnsen@netcom.com (Don "nod" Johnsen) writes:
>I suggested sodium pentatol (not sure if I'm spelling that correctly)

Pentathol, or thiopental sodium.  It's the thio- (sulfur-) analogue of
pentobarbital.

>as an 
>appropriate vehicle for demise, noting that I'd seen it listed as a drug of
>choice for lethal injections administered to condemmed people in some states.
>She challenged me as to its availability, and suggested I try and find some.

It could only be administered by someone experienced with such administration
(usually an anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist), because it can only be
given intravenously.  The solution is intensely alkaline, and can cause
pain if the infusion isn't done right.  If the solution gets into the
surrounding skin or muscle it causes necrosis (tissue death), and if
it's injected into an artery, it causes intense pain, arterial spasm
and sometimes gangrene.  I can imagine much easier and pleasant ways
to die than a series of botched Pentathol injections.

>As I'm not actually interested in commiting suicide, this is an academic
>pursuit - but is it possible to purchase it, or its precursors, on the open
>market? Is it tightly controlled? Can one make it at home?

Like almost all barbiturates, thiopental is a Schedule II controlled
substance.  You can't get it w/o a DEA license.  And you certainly
wouldn't ever be able to be an Rx filled for it, since it's a substance
which is designed for use in a hospital or clinic, and not for home use.
It'd be a waste of time trying to make it.

>Ideas regarding other appropriate methods of demise would be welcomed.
>Sorry that it's not much of a recreational substance (or topic for
>that matter.)

I think you and your wife should check yourself in to the nearest
mental health center for evaluation.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (PARKER CHRIS S)
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:44:00 GMT

In article <ringo.721941241@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes...

>Something called gels, or window panes, as I recall...they are like little
>pieces of plastic that allegedly contain LSD. Anyone?

Oh, a FOAF mentioned something to that tune. Except they were gelatin, small
squares with a little 4-way (cross) symbol embossed on top, and a plethora of
colors if in supply.

FOAF also put one in his eye, and it stained his eye green for several days due
to green gelatin. :-)

I also heard the guy who originally made the stuff, fell into a vat of the
stuff, but this is undoubtfully urban legend.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: MJ sickness
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:57:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.183640.23527@mail.cornell.edu>, Jeremy Matz <ILMJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu> writes:
>later)  he was okay.  My second friend took a hit off the same bong about
>a year later, then ran down two flights of stair s to his car and back
>again.  WHen he got back up the stairs he was really confused and kinda
>looked like a scared little kid.  He walked in the door and passed out
>into my arms.  For the next hour he was really confused and disoriented. 
>He seemed to be passing in and out of reality and consciousness.  We took
>HIM to the emergency room and by the time we say a doctor he was okay. 
>His unusall twist was that he takes Renilin for Tensoin deficit disorder.

(I think he probably takes Ritalin for Attention Deficit Disorder.)

This sounds like he passed out due to a lack of oxygen to the brain.  The
same thing happened to me once (no drugs involved).  I was watching TV,
being very lazy, when I decided to get up and do something.  I got up
suddenly and walked briskly toward the door.  My vision started to go black. 
If I'd had any presence of mind left, I would have dropped to my knees.
I crashed through the door and *then* dropped to my knees (involuntarily).
The next thing I remember was waking up with my teeth touching the floor and
my nose bleeding.  My thoughts went something like:

    Where am I?  Summer camp?  No, I'm in college.  What college?  UVA?  No,
    Tulane.  Where do I live?

I took me a few minutes to get my bearings, but then I was OK (except for a
bashed-in nose).  

It's a good idea to "warm up" to serious activity.  Being stoned probably
made your friend forget this.  

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:55:58 EST
From: <NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: two mj questions
 <1992Nov20.081324.8781@u.washington.edu>

In article <1992Nov20.081324.8781@u.washington.edu>,
lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) says:
>
>lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay) writes:
>>So I draw upon the wisdom of the net -- did we just happen upon some
>>*really* strong pot?  Is this what's supposed to happen in extreme
>>amounts?  Or was it treated with something, and if so, what?
>
>I don't know.  Over the course of a couple of months I smoked an entire
>quarter one time -- towards the end I got stoned one time and had an
>experience
>like yours, where I came close to calling 911.  Never happened any other
>time...

I think this "really strong pot" you're talking about was KIND BUD.
They're these buds, QUITE LARGE, that are supposed to have a much
higher concentration of THC in them than the average bud or leaf.
Many people I know of that have taken one to four hits of kind bud
_HAVE_ gotten severely stoned, paralyzed, or had hallucinations.
I've done kind bud once in my life - took two hits and hallucinated,
although not too badly. I think kind bud is the pot equivalent of
everclear. WAY strong.
-n
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Growing Weed
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:37:54 GMT

In article <92321.045114NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu> <NMR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>ck041@cleveland.Freenet.edu (Kevin Currie) writes:
>
>:          Is there an FAQ on pot growing?     I want to know how to grow
>:     on indoors...
>
>Of course, I do not advocate or encourage the propagation of this
>plant since it is a criminal offense, but I am aware that using a
>black light (to give the plants each wavelength necessary for
>growth) makes them grow reallllllly fast.


  Yeah, and the ayatollah was a realllllly nice guy. UV light
will do nothing to help any plant I've ever heard of grow
faster, and I've heard of a lot of plants!
			     -Bruce-
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:49:28 GMT

v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
>hey, a question out there for anyone...
>
>	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
>really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
>trying to "throw up" the acid, as it would throw up alcohol. although he had
>nothing in his stomach, he continued to have dry heaves and general naeusea
>for about an hour, maybe more. we've all done it quite a bit, and i have never
>heard or seen anyone else have this problem. also, no one else has gotten sick
>when tripping on this stuff. any ideas?

Its not that uncommon of a physiological reaction.  Also, could it be just
a bad case of nerves or some other psychological effect?

Of course it might have been that he got the square with all the strychnine
on it...  *duck*

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Is WOSD being won?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:57:58 GMT


The following appeared over in sci.crypt and seems to present statistics
considerably different than I have seen over here.  Any comments?
Any refutations (please)?

> Mike Nemeth posts a canard that we are losing the war on drugs, as
> support for his anti-enforcement position. That is simply untrue.
> Quoting from "Devaluing of America--The Fight for Our Culture and Our
> Children" by William J. Bennett, p.149:
> 
> "The number of current drug users FELL from 23 million to 12.9 million--a
> drop of 44 percent--between 1985 and 1990.
> In 1985 there were 5.8 million current users of cocaine: five years later
> that number was cut down to 1.6 million.
> From 1988 to 1990 there was a 26 percent decrease in the number of
> cocaine-related emergency room visits.
> Marijuana use is at its lowest points since 1972.
> Drug rehabilitation centers are half-full and many are closing.
> 
> "In 1989, the Office of National Drug Control Policy laid out detailed
> two-year and ten-year goals and objectives, all with specific
> numerical and proportional targets, and almost all of which directly
> address the most urgent drug-use problems. In 1991, the ONDCP issued
> the following two-year assessment: The goal for current overall drug
> use was a decrease of 10 percent; the actual decrease was 11 percent.
> The goal for current adolescent drug use was a decrease of 10 percent;
> the actual decrease was 13 percent. The goal for occasional cocaine
> use was a decrease of 10 percent; the actual results were a decrease
> of 29 percent. The goal for frequent cocaine use was a 50 percent
> reduction in the rate of increase; the actual result was a 23 percent
> decline overall. The goal for current adolescent cocaine use was a
> decrease of 20 percent; the actual result was a decrease of 49
> percent. The goal for drug-related medical emergencies was 10 percent;
> the actual result was a decrease of 18 percent. The goal for student
> attitudes toward drug use was a 10 percent decrease; the actual result
> was a 28 percent decrease."
> 
> We're winning, folks, despite the propaganda of people like Nemeth.

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jmolinari@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:18:45 GMT

>      I know several people who used to smoke large amounts of marijuana
> but no longer touch it because it "freaks them out too much" or they "cant
> handle it". When quizzed as to why they don't smoke anymore, they are often
> reluctant to even talk about it and shrug it off. This puzzles me.
> Are there others out there who used to use grass, but no longer do for
> these or similar reasons??

	Similar.  I believe that what your friends were experiencing was some
sort of drug-induced paranoia, which I'm rather familiar with on a first-hand
basis.  I used to smoke pot on a sporadic basis, and enjoyed it tremendously
every time.  However, for some reason, when I started to mix it with LSD I
would become incredibly uncomfortable in just about any setting, with just
about any company.
	Anyway, I can't explain why, but now I can't do either of the two
drugs, in any combination, without freaking out completely.  It's possible
that I'll never do them again for this reason; the effects they have on me have
become predictably disturbing.

	There's too much about the mind we don't know, in my opinion.

			Hope that helps.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs splitting (was alt.drugs.lsd)
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:31:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.145827.8788@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

>I think a better split would be something like

Oh, boy.  Here it comes.

>alt.drugs.pharm(acology)
>alt.drugs.use
>alt.drugs.misc
>alt.drugs.culture
>alt.drugs.international

How about alt.drugs.newgroup.happy.happy.happy?

I think that would make *much* more sense.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: Paul Stanford <treefreeeco@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:21 PST
Subject: Re: HEMP FACTS
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov16.123940.44825@kuhub.cc.:1632367192:cdp:1301300203:000:612
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!treefreeeco    Nov 18 22:21:00 1992


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