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From: Edward.Starczewski@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Edward Starczewski)
Subject: Re: cirrus/mastercard?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.841.22744@dosgate> "stephanie fysh" <stephanie.fysh@canrem.com> writes:
>Yet another banking machines in Europe question:
>
>My most recent Bank of Montreal MasterCard statement includes the
>following notice:
>
>        "Most Cirrus banking machines in Europe do not allow withdrawals
>        from bank accounts when using your MasterCard.  Such MasterCard
>        transactions are treated as cash advances."
>
>I assume that this means that I will have to travel with my credit card
>*and* with a separate bank machine card.  Being no wizard about such
>things, I wouldn't mind some confirmation!  Do the regular bank cards
>include Cirrus and suchlike?  Will this get me through Great Britain,
>Normandy and Brittany OK?
>
>- Stephanie.
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>--
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>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

On my trip to Britain  last October I used my Cirrus affiliated Bank
card
exclusively.  It did take a few attempts to find a bank that would
accept it though, Lloyds Bank was the lucky (for me) winner.  Lloyds
is located just about every where, I used there ATM's in a number of
locations (serveral in London, Windsor, Stratford upon Avon, Oxford,
and Malvern). I would offer some advice though:
1. Take some travellers checks... just in case
2. Check with a major office of your bank, ask them if they have any
reciprocal agreements with banks in the areas you are travelling, 
these agreements usually include acceptance of each others ATM cards.
3. Know the numbers of your access code not just the letters, ATM's in
Europe don't have the telephone-like keypads we do in the States and
Canada.

Hope this helps

Edward M. Starczewski               Rome Laboratory Rome, NY
stare@lonex.rl.af.mil

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From: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter)
Subject: Re: Weather in NYC
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:10:09 GMT

In article <UWP.92Aug31141317@manana.cs.tu-berlin.de> uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Udo Wolter) writes:

> My girlfriend & me want to travel to New York next Saturday. So I just wanted
> to know how's the weather at the moment in NYC. Is there an anonymous FTP 
> server which holds weather reports from north america ?

I want to thank all those people who write me. I got the help I needed.
Bye,
	Udo

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Xref: sparky rec.travel:12513 rec.backcountry:6629
From: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Yosemite, North Rim Questions
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:55:39 GMT
Reply-To: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

kowal@bmerh136.bnr.ca (Andrew Kowal) writes:
> 1)  If I went for "walk-in" as opposed to "drive-in" sites, how long could
>     I expect the "walk-in" to be?  ...
>            Can I expect "walk-in" to mean crowds, snot-nosed crying kids,
>     drunks, power and water outlets and trailer parks?  There are some
>     "drive-in" sites in Quebec (called "semi-rustic") ...
>                                     Are there any sites like this?
> 
> 2)  Where the hell is Hogdon Meadows?  Should I be scared?  Is there a 
>     campground anywhere in Yosemite similar to the "semi-rustics" I've
>     described above?

I've only examined a couple of walk-in camps; I suspect they vary enormously. 
In Yosemite, Sunnyside is a walk-in camp in Yosemite Valley.  It's not a
private, rustic spot.  It's an area where tents are pitched rather closely
(room for over 200 tents) and a gravel parking lot about 100 yards from one
end.  It's very popular with climbers.  It was full by the end of the first
week of May this year.  It's also only $2/night, and first-come (I think).  So
crowds yes, but few kids, water available, and some distance from most of the
trailers.  Oh yes, gas station adjacent.  I'm sure there are walk-in sites in
less crowd-stressed places which are much more rustic.

Hodgdon Meadows is near the Big Oak Flat entrance, NW of Yosemite Valley (about
20 miles?).  It's a very pretty, wooded campground, mostly (perhaps entirely)
tent sites, some of which are directly next to parking, some of which require
carrying stuff 100 yards or so.  I imagine that when it's full it will seem
fairly crowded, but not nearly so as the campgrounds in Yo Valley.  It's
probably the best you can get in Yosemite NP without backpacking.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
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  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
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From: katiyar@CS.Stanford.EDU (Dinesh Katiyar)
Subject: help : oxford to paris
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:54:28 GMT


i need to travel from oxford to paris sometime next month and
it would tremendously help me if i could get some idea of what
options i have of travelling (i was told one could fly cheaper
if one chose one of the "overflow" airports of london?") and 
how much time it would take.

thanks,

dinesh

ps. please reply by email only - katiyar@cs.stanford.edu

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From: alie@aslslc115.asl.dl.nec.com (Andrew Lie)
Subject: Re:TWA
Organization: NEC America, Inc. Irving, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:25:45 GMT

In article <31AUG199215303917@rigel.tamu.edu> you write:
>	Well, I thought that I should warn the world that I finally
>	figured out what TWA stands for while traveling on their 
>	airlines from Dallas, Tx to New York City  ------- The
>	Worst Airline.  Keywords:  Flight cancelled and airline
>	staff rude and surly.
>
>			John Z.  -  jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu

I agree!! My mom just flew round-trip with them from West Palm Beach, FL
to Philadelphia, PA. TWA lost her luggage going both directions.
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: Parking in/near Venice
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:32:36 GMT

In article <182qa6INN4iv@agate.berkeley.edu> cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               ) writes:
>I have a question about driving to Venice. Is it better to drive all the way
>to the Roma Pazza in Venice or drive to Padova and take the train to Venice?
>How much is the parking per day in the two places? How much does the train 
>cost and how often does it run?          

If you're going to spend the night, Padua might be the way to go.  It's probably
easier to find a place to stay there.  If you want to drive, don't go all the 
way to the Piazzale Roma - you'll almost never find a place to park there.
Instead, drive to the large artificial island on which the city authorities
have constructed some enormous parking lots and garages.  I don't remember how
much this costs, but it's not too bad.  From there, you can take the water
bus into the city.  DO NOT accept any offers to park in a private lot and
take a private water taxi into the city - these are expensive rip-offs.
You get to the parking island the same way to get to the Piazzale Roma, but
you turn off a bit sooner.  There will be signs directing you there.

Wayne

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From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Renegotiating Hotel Rates (Was: HoJo Dispute)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:38:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <l9q58qINNt3v@aludra.usc.edu> fishkin@aludra.usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin) writes:
>
>The moral of the story is:  Always get a cancellation number or the name
>of the person who cancels your reservation (as well as the date and time of
>your call).

This is sort of off the subject, but it reminds me of a problem I had at
Holiday Inn a couple of years ago, and the ABSOLUTE NECESSITY of getting
the name of anybody on hotel staff who promises you ANYTHING.  

We were staying at a Holiday Inn in San Diego (the one next to the flight
path for Lindbergh field :-)) on a two-nights-for-$75 coupon.  We wanted
to stay around for another three days, and the hotel was half empty,
so I called the desk (mid-late evening) and asked for a break on the regular
room rates.  The person on the other other end  seemed a little confused, but
came back with an offer that I could live with.  She said she extended us
for two days.

Fine.  Next day we go out early and come back late.  I stopped at the desk
to ask about something and it came up that they had _not_ extended our
room at the agreed-upon rate, were wondering why we hadn't checked out,
and were charging us full-boat for the extra time. Different staff on this
shift, of course.  In fact, the rate we'd been offered wasn't according to
the desk clerk, even one of their standard discount rates. Because I didn't
know who had promised me this, the staff on duty wasn't inclined to believe me.

We finally got it straightened out on our terms, but only, I suspect, because
the place was half-empty and they knew that if they pissed us off, we've
leave and cost them two extra days' occupancy.   

The moral:  when they promise you something, GET THEIR NAMES.  If you can
get it in writing, even better.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 21:57:13 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: What are "you gotta do" things in/around San Diego
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: San Diego


Well, if *I* found myself in San Diego, my essentials would be:

	Giant Dipper roller coaster at Belmont Park, Mission Beach.  It
	was originally built in 1925 and is a great old roller coaster.
	It was just refurbished and reopened a few years back, after
	having fallen into disrepair and not operating for quite a
	while.  I've only seen it in its dilapidated state.  Most
	impressive.

	Reuben H. Fleet Space Museum, in Balboa Park.

	San Diego Zoo.

Geoff

Disclaimer: It's been a *long* time since I've been to San Diego.

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From: Gord_Pope@mindlink.bc.ca (Gord Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Amsterdam
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:31:29 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I recommend Haarlem.  It's a 30 min train ride north of Schipol and a 30 min
train ride from Amsterdam.  It's a quaint and picturesque Dutch town and has a
tourist office to the right of the train station as you exit it.  However,
almost certainly it will be closed by the time you get there.  Not to worry,
there are inexpensive hotels in the area.  Probably someone at the bus depot
(opposite the train station) could direct you.  We stayed at the Hotel
Carillon, turn left out the door of the station, go to the left most end, turn
right, walk about 2 blocks.  Anyway, Haarlem has a fascinating town square
surrounded by old buildings.  As well, there is  an interesting cathedral.
There are canals for cruising but I don't believe you'll have that much time.
We caught the train at Schipol (our flight arrived at 6pm) and were in Haarlem
by 7.  There is a train change about half way but the train people will tell
you about that.  Trains to Haarlem seem to be about every 30 min.  Trains from
Haarlem to Amsterdam seem to be the same.

Enjoy.

Gord.
From: Ron_Mackenzie@mindlink.bc.ca (Ron Mackenzie)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bed & Breakfasts in/near London?
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:45:27 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I have been in London several times over the last ten years, and the general
level of bed and breakfast places has seemed to deteriorate as their prices
have risen.  Last time over we decided to stay outside of London by taking the
train from the airport the opposite way and getting off at the first stop.  It
turned out to be Crawley and was delightful, quiet, green and safe.  I suggest
you try this.  At most the rail time to Victoria Station is half an hour, and
the trip back to the airport for your trip to Paris is even less.   Good
travel.
From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Reg. India, Nepal, Kashmir Travel Suggestions
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:18:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

A few observations based on a 5 week trip to India in 1986 and a 3
week trip to Nepal in 1987:

(1) Air reservations: The Indian Air Pass is a good investment
provided you can get reservations on the flights you want.  The most
reliable way to do this is to be completely flexible about your
itinerary and get to the Indian Airlines office nearest you upon
arrival.  I made some reservations in the US before departure of which
IA had no records in India.  I recommend against flying standby: My
experience is that it creates such pandemonium that someone not versed
in the ways of handling it is unlikely to be successful.

(2) Check on the situation in Kashmir.  Staying on Dal Lake is an
unforgettable, but the area has been intermittently closed to tourism
in the recent past.

(3) If flying into Leh remember that you will need some time to become
accustomed to the altitude.  The davantage to taking the bus is that
it gives you time to become accustomed to the altitude gradually.  I
took the bus from Srinigar to Leh and flew out.  Both the bus ride (a
long dusty trip with a `memorable' overnight stop) and the plane trip
are spectacular.

(4) On treks in Nepal it is worthwhile to make arrangements that
include providing food for you.  While the food in Pokhara and
Kathmandu is excellent, the food available along the Annapurna trek
was fairly repulsive.  Luckily for me, I have a cast iron stomach and
did not become ill; however, to call the conditions along the way
unsanitary would be generous.  Also, the rest houses tend to fill with
smoke as the villagers light unventilated fires in their homes; if you
are sensitive to smoke, arranging for a trip with tents might be
worthwhile.  Make all such arrangements after you arrive in Nepal if
you are on a tight budget; the savings over booking in the US will be
very large.

(5) Package tours to Chitwan National Park from Kathmandu or Pokhara
are a total ripoff.  You can make all the same arrangements yourself
for about half the cost.  

(6) Flight schedules in Nepal are, to put it kindly, unreliable.  I
had intended to do some trekking in the Everest area.  Not having much
time, I was trying to arrange a flight to Lukla.  After booking and
waiting for planes on 3 different dates, I decided to do the Annapurna
trek, which does not require any flying.  If you are pressed for time,
avoid relying on internal flights in Nepal as they will likely leave
you stranded at the worst possible time.

SJM
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: joyce@meaddata.com 
Subject: NEW YORK SKYLINE
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:45:36 GMT

Could somebody please tell me where I can get a good view of 
the New York City skyline? I want to get some pictures either
early in the morning or at sundown. Thanks!


Xref: sparky rec.travel:12536 soc.culture.brazil:2194
From: bloom@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Lynn Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Brazil travel question
Date: 28 Aug 1992 16:43:10 GMT
Reply-To: bloom@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/JSC Engineering Computation Facility

Hi, I am posting this for a friend of mine. Please respond either here
or by a direct e-mail to my account:


	We have been thinking of going to Brazil; Have our visas, etc. and are
	flying standby so we don't have to go there.  Due to the impeachment and
	government problems, does someone know if it is safe to go there?
	American news said there is fear of a military coup.
	  Thanks.

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Xref: sparky rec.travel:12330 soc.culture.usa:6849
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:38:32 GMT
Reply-To: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <frank2.28@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za> frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N) writes:
>It has been my experience when travelling abroad that the majority 
>of American tourists are loud, obtrusive and selfish. They are at their 
>worst in large tour groups, but individuals and families can be almost as 
>bad. They appear to have no consideration for fellow tourists and the locals 
>whose lands they are visiting. 

  ... (whining deleted)...

>I do not want to be guilty of generalising. 

  Glad to hear it - you had me worried.  Of course, one *could* generalize
  about South Africa.  But one won't :-)

>I would appreciate some insight on this issue.

  Yes, it is badly needed.

>David Frank       <frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
>University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg


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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pearlste@eastrg2.cray.com (Kenneth Pearlstein)
Subject: Re: Info on travel to Acapulco
Followup-To: 34867
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:58:00 CDT

>My grilfriend and I are planning a trip to Acapulco from Oct. 3 - Oct. 10, 1992.  I have 
>never traveled to Mexico and I have several questions:

>1.) How absolutely necessary is the Spanish language in the vacinity of Acapulco, i.e.
>
>	Taxco, Ixtapta, etc?

    An understanding of the Spanish language is not necessary.  Howvever even
an attempt at trying Spanish can help you make friends and get reduced fares
on taxis.

>2.) Is there an on-line weather servive I can access which will provide daily temps
>	and weather forcasts for Acapulc

Weather forecasts for Acapulco are not needed.  The high temp will be 90 and
the low will be 77.  These temps dont vary by more than 2 degrees all year round.
The rain if there is any will be in the middle of the night.  The higher elevations in the Winter can be cool.

>3.) I've heard that getting from the airport to the city is either accomplished by bus
>	or an airport taxi.  Is this correct?  If so, any recommendations?

>In addition, any recommendations anyone might have, such as moderately priced restaurants,
>or exciting things to do, I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Taxis are plentiful in town and cheap.  The cost by taxi from the airport
to town should be about $15.  In town taxis (VW bugs) are about $2 for rides
in around the town.  There are plenty of discos and fine restaurants.  I
really liked Blackbeards restaurant.

PS.  Most of the bookstores in the D.C. area carry Fodor's guide to Acapulco.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Visit sunny Croatia?
Summary: Croatian TV reports resorts are open
Keywords: Croatia Yugoslavia surrealism
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:59:22 GMT


Looking for something a little different this summer?  Consider
the balmy beaches of Croatia.  According to a report yesterday on
Croatian TV (broadcast to cable systems around the U.S. via the
SCOLA service), beaches are open, tourists are happy, and shelling
is extremely light.  "It is very nice here," says one sunburned
German.  "Whiskey and cigarettes are very cheap for us."
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: cigarette butts
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:47:25 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Distribution: rec
Organization: m4

In article <1992Sep2.841.22726@dosgate>, stephanie.fysh@canrem.com (stephanie fysh) writes:
|> 
|> LB>Hmm, I'd almost be willing to generalize that all smokers are litterbugs.
|> LB>(Regardless of nationality).  Why is it that cigarette butts can't be
|> LB>thrown in wastecans (after making sure the fire is out, of course)?
|> LB>I do not smoke, but am not particularly anti-smoking.  But I HATE seeing
|> LB>cigarette butts everywhere.  I wonder if this doesn't enter into the
|> LB>anti-smoking crusade?
|> 
|> Speaking as an ex-smoker who once started a small fire in a wastecan
|> with a cigarette butt that I thought was well and truly out, it doesn't
|> work!
|> 

So, therefore, it's better to put leave them on the ground and start the
fire there as opposed to inside a trash can????

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:02:10 +0200
From: ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Apparently-To: rnews@sunet.se
X-Hear: Sally's (Meg Ryan's) fake diner orgasm now available as plug-in
X-This: charger sound for the Apple PowerBook; reason enough to buy one
X-Mailer: Fernmail 1.2b2
Organization: random design -- "Opinions, cheaply"
Subject: supplementary cost of TGV trains Paris--Geneve


  Local travel agent tells me that the supplement varies
  from **practically nil** to a hundred francs or so, depending
  on day and time of travel.  I wonder, however.  SNCF (Societe
  Nationale de Chemin de Fer Francaise?) doesn't have a bureau
  in Stockholm, Sweden, so I cannot get it confirmed from the
  horse's mouth (figuratively speaking ;-))  If any of you has
  a table/ price list nearby, could you please MAIL me the info
  for a Tuesday/ Wednesday (I can adjust time of departure, too).

  Thanks

--Ian