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From: rjc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Amazing Prediction
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:54:37 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


  Sometime, within the next few days, an entity on the net going by the
name Marc Barrett will post a message ferociously bashing the new
Amiga models. It doesn't matter how good the specs of these new systems
are, they _will_ be bashed. And I predict on these [rumored] key points:

1) Price.  They don't compete with the cheapo $1800 486 systems.
2) Too-Little too-late (tm). Commodore should have had an 040 system out
   over a year ago and a _revolutionary_ chipset out back in 1987. 
   _Anything_ Commodore releases is "too late".  Hence, no point releasing
A   an 040 system.
3) AA chipset doesn't have a fast enough blitter. AA chipset doesn't
have "super improved copper" AA chipset doesn't have anything higher 
than 1024x768x8, and the new modes are interlaced.
4) no built in CD-ROM
5) IDE instead of SCSI
6) No DIG, No Mem Protection, Virtual Memory, or Global Resource Tracking
   in 3.0
7) no improved sound

  If I were gambling, I'd place my bets on #1, #2, and #3. Marc will bash
the AA chipset the hardest since is he has been fairly rabid about
graphics capabilities.

  No flame, I just wanted to get in some jabs before Marc posts his
usual "As I have been predicting all along since 1981, Commodore has
done X."
From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Upgrade path from A3000 -> A4000? Ask at WOC!
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:52:00 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep14.024817.9546@marlin.jcu.edu.au>, cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
> In article <92257.115643JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu> <JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Not pin compatible but what about installing it on a ZorroIII Card or through
>>the CPU slot.  I'd even go for a mother-board swap if it wasn't outrageously
>>priced.
> 
> It isn't going to work in a Zorro III board without software to remap
> accesses to the custom chips through the MMU.  Even then the card would
> have to produce its own video output to the monitor. 

Sounds good to me. I'd quite like the ability to run in either ECS or AGA mode
to be sure of compatibility. Another monitor output might be useful too.

> Can't everybody stop moaning?  We knew the new machines were coming and
> that there was going to be a *very* good chance they wouldn't work
> without a new motherboard, you had your chance to try and sell an 
> old machine.
I don't really understnad this statement - do you mean that the old machines
need a new motherboard or that the new machines are obsolete already?

The point most people on the upgrade side of teh great AGA debate seem to be
making is that the 68030 machines have enough bandwidth (in theory) for the
A4000 graphics subsystem to be dropped in as a modular upgrade somehow. A point
that hasn't been mentioned is that, since the audio capabilities haven't been
changed this *might* result in machines with 4Mb of chip ram - 2Mb on a graphics
module and the exisitng 2Mb on the motherboard. Now wouldn't that be nice ? :)
(I'm not an Amy hardware specialist, but wouldn't this result in a speed-up of
both graphcis and sound handling since there'd be less bus contention on the
chip Ram ?)
> 
>>JK
> -- 
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From: lockhart@cbmvax.commodore.com (John W. Lockhart - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Date: 12 Sep 92 09:38:32 GMT
Reply-To: lockhart@cbmvax.commodore.com (John W. Lockhart - Systems Assurance)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Summary: No lies here, just the facts :-)

In article <65342@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>Well, Go Amigo used to be its own company, operating out of a
>railroad car in Redwood City, CA. Creative bought them out, but 
> [ ... ]

Well, they were quite close to the railroad tracks, but they were
really in a warehousing complex, and not even remotely in a railroad
car.  There were other retailers in the complex as well, at least the
last time I was there (back in '89, about a month before the big
earthquake).  There was always a lot more stuff in the warehouse than
on the sales floor, just from space considerations.  (And how would
you fit several thousand hardware and software items into a single
railroad car...and still be able to get at them easily?  If it were
mobile, though, it might have been a novel way to sell Amiga software
and peripherals :-)

Hmm, I wonder how Creative treated the folks who were working there;
they were a pretty good bunch of people...

  -- John

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From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
Subject: Re:  World of CBM, Pasadena
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:50:53 GMT

I would be happy to get a HP DeskJet 500 Colour printer driver for the Amiga. If
you have on, please upload to comp.binaries.amiga.

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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:43:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.130756.23771@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>Of course, this discussion is irrelevant - HAM8 at 800x600 is going to blow
>SVGA well out of the water...

   Except that the AA 800x600 is probably interlaced.  OOPS!!

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From: matt@gbrmpa.gov.au (Matt)
Subject: Re: SCSI Vs. IDE?
Organization: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:35:45 GMT

In article <65330@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.020858.11399@gbrmpa.gov.au>
>storage@gbrmpa.gov.au (FTP Storage A/C) writes:
>
>|  In article <copes.715597537@pride> copes@pride.cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
>|  writes:
>|  >
>|  >BTW, last week I read a comparison test between 14 486/50's.  They all ran 
>|  >around 400-500k sec on the Hdisk tests
>|  
>|  What a crock of shit, my 386/33 with IDE pulls around 850k/s.
>
>What a pathetic piece of shit (the 386/33); my 68020/20 with SCSI "pulls"
>1.5Mbytes/Second tested on 50MB and 100MB files.

So what? We all know SCSI is faster, that's why I've got SCSI in my 486,
your statement is "typical" of a die-hard Amiga owner.

matt.
From: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mr_scary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falc
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 12:20:38 EDT
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-> From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
-> 
-> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
-> > 
-> >	I think XMS and EMS fits the discription of kludge that someone
-> >	posted.  I believe the definition was from Byte.  Would someone
-> >	repost the definition?  I don't want to paraphrase.
-> >
-> 
-> Lots of things may fit that definition, including FlickerFixers and
-> BridgeBoards.

	I would agree that a FlickerFixer is less elegant than a new video
card that doesn't flicker and replaces the existing hardware, but how is a
BridgeBoard a kludge?

-> +-------------------+-----------------------+--------------------------------+
-> | Jerry J. Shekhel  | Molecular Simulations | Time just fades the pages      |
-> | Drummers do it... | Inc.  Waltham, MA USA | in my book of memories.        |
-> |    ... In rhythm! |     (617) 890-2888    |              -- Guns N' Roses  |
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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:01:29 GMT

In <1992Sep10.055018.13209@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>> DECStation 5000/240 ?

>How is this DEC different from the 5000/200 models?  I've seen/used
>those before,...the R3000s in them aren't that super.

It's mainly a 40MHz R3000 compared to the 25MHz R3000 in the model 5000/200.
It uses the same memory as the 5000/200 but has the CPU card concept of the
5000/125 series.

I'm not sure how you can say: not super. Compared to what ? The DECstations
offer similar performance to Sparcs with having an edge in floating point
speed. Some people call this unbalanced, I call this an advantage as we
have _lots_ of floating point intensive stuff to do. Of course, the HP
machines offer even more but changing platforms isn't that easy and wasn't
considered for "just a factor of 2 in FP speed". And then there will be
Alpha :-)

>>> SGI Crimson ?

>Doesn't this one use the R4000?  Maybe the DEC 5000/240 does too?

This one uses an R4000 (I believe with 33MHz).

DEC will (most probably) offer R4000 upgrades for the DECstations with
a CPU slot (i.e. the 5000/125, 5000/133 and 500/240 series but not for
the 5000/200 or even the 3100 or 2100).

Regards,
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From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:21:31 GMT

In article <25829@castle.ed.ac.uk> marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn) writes:
>>>> The A4000 has a PCMIA interface.
>[then later...]
>It doesn't?  AAUUGGGHHHH!!!!  I really cannot that C= would release a
>machine without the PCMIA interface (you were right - it is an awful
>acronym).  

Naw, it's easy to remember.  Just think CIA and add a PCM on the front :-)
(PCMCIA = Personal Computer Memory Card Interface Assocation)

Re: putting a CD-ROM on it... ugh.  Where will you then plug your PCMCIA
modem or personal ram card?  Gimme a CD-ROM drive in a drive bay, anyway.

I have some questions: does the A4000 IDE port have DMA?  And did anyone
at the show bring up the topic of the Falcon to Commodore execs?

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Random tidbits regarding WOC & A4000
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:38:32 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>In article <25799@castle.ed.ac.uk> marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn) writes:

>>> The A4000 has a PCMIA interface.

>No it doesn't. There's a really fuzzy IFF picture floating around that
>claims to be the A4000, but it's a complete fabrication. (Things like
>a 'Ramona' chip, card interface, not enough drive bays, no keyswitch,
>etc.)

It doesn't?  AAUUGGGHHHH!!!!  I really cannot that C= would release a
machine without the PCMIA interface (you were right - it is an awful
acronym).  The PCMIA *is* a standard.  Several notebooks use it as does
Apples' forthcoming PDA, the Newton.  It would have made great sense to
include the card slot in the A4000 simply due to the fact that it exists
in the A600, giving some degree of hardware compatability between the
two (and any other C= machines with the PCMIA interface).

Since I posted the original article I apologise to anyone I may have
misled.  I had looked at the (now discredited) gif of the A4000 and had
assumed it was accurate.  

Given that the gif was not official, would anybody care to post or
upload an iff of the real A4000?

	Mark
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From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: IDE max drive capacity (was: Re: a4000 specs? who know)
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:13:16 GMT

In article <3748@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>>As you mentioned, usually the only difference between IDE and SCSI
>>drives are the electronics.  The mechanical parts are the same.  Also,
>>for some reason, you don't see many high-capacity (300+ MB) IDE
>>drives.  Is this a limitation of IDE, or simply a function of supply
>>and demand?
>
>  Not sure what the limits of IDE are.

I believe there's a limit on IDE drive capacity, of 512M.  I'm told
this comes from the PC BIOS limitation of 1024 cylinders, 16 tracks
per cylinder, 64 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector.  Supposedly,
as a "mere" BIOS limitation, it could be exceeded.  Yet no one does.

When perusing a very large list (about 1000) of hard drives published
in Computer Shopper, the IDE drives stopped at 520M (as if M=1000K),
and nearly everything above that was SCSI (with a few ESDI).
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From: tony@ais.org (Tony Poole)
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:26:41 GMT

ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:

>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>> personally I love 'cheesy Euro-synth'!!  :)

>Why call it "Euro-synth"? Why do people say "Euro-demos"?
>Is it perhaps because americans aren't creative (or competent) enough 
>to make demos and music?

Oh, ouch.....you're rubber I'm glue - whatever you say bounces off me and
sticks to you...nyah nyah nyah.  

Maybe it's because Americans have better things to do with their time?  

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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Music on computers Re: Unreal demo!
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:23:23 GMT

In article <R8ysqB1w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>
>> personally I love 'cheesy Euro-synth'!!  :)
>
>Why call it "Euro-synth"? Why do people say "Euro-demos"?
>Is it perhaps because americans aren't creative (or competent) enough 
>to make demos and music?

No, because the Amiga is so much more common in Europe than in the US.  Or
at least Europe is where they started coming from?

Also, the term 'cheesy Euro-synth' was something somebody else said about the
music.  I was defending it. :-)

Really, some of this music (and that I have heard in other PC games)
is so good I might buy it - just to listen to w/o headphones on!  Some
of it (well, MOST actually) is a Spacemusic/New Age synthesizer type.  I
kinda like it!  Then, some music 'fits' the games.  I hear that the new Conan
game for PCs has _great_ 'Conan-esque' music, and as a musician of 
Medieval music, I can appreaciate the first bars of music intro to PC Eye of the
 Beholder.

Yeah, I really like the music in Unreal.  I oughta figure out how to record it.
:)

-- 
Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
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From: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mr_scary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Atari Falcon Discoun
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 13:22:06 EDT
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-> From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
-> >
-> >That, sadly, is probably true.  But the vast majority of Falcon interest is
-> >likely to come from musicians, so they might as well just hang out in their
-> >little niche.  Realistically, the Falcon isn't going to bump out the PC for
-> >anyone's choice of Basic Home Computer.
-> 
-> Realistically, neither is the Amiga, so what's you're point?
-> 

	Neither has the Macintosh.  Add the 68k based machines
together and this "brotherhood" has at least made a small dent in the world
of Intel boxes.

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From: zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Powerups
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:15:02 GMT


When C= comes out with the low-end AGA machine (and they'd better or
I'll kill someone... i know!  I'll kill a loyal csaa person... Let's
see... who should I kill.... how bout -MB-? No, if I threatened to do
that, C= definitely wouldn't make the machine...) what are the chances
that loyal 500 people like myself will be able to powerup to it?  What
are the chances the a800 or 1200 or whatever will be available w/o a
drive? (hard drive)  And what can I do with my RAM?  (4 megs in a
Supra 500RX)...

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From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: "Liberal" comes from "Liberal"--not "Liberty"
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:35:29 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <jayson.03ja@tbag.tscs.com>, jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips) writes:
>  
>  5 Sep 1992 mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>  
>>Oh... now the liberals are saying that the Patriot didn't hit a
>  
> "Liberal"  comes  from "liberty" which means freedom.  I belive in freedom,
> unlike certain authority-worshipers with network TV educations.
>  

No.  Libertarian comes from "liberty."  Liberal comes from "Liberal"--
as in people who are on the left.

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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:44:25 GMT
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Is this database available somewhere?  If so, where?

Thanks.
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unreal demo!
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:25:34 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:

>$300 for an A500?  Where?  That is a great deal.

Creative Computers and Tenex (sp?) both sell the A500 for $299.  I thought
you know about it before flaming us... :)

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From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who know
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:15:43 GMT

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

>-- 
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
                              ^^^^^^^^^^

 Now will that change to     (Amiga 4000) "The Crew that Never Rests"   ????



Mubashir.

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