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From: muen@quads.uchicago.edu (john emil muenning)
Subject: Re: Atom Egoyan
Keywords: 4 movies 
Reply-To: muen@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:53:00 GMT

Oyvind H.Oddekalv <oddekalv@vxcrna.cern.ch> writes:

>I've been so fortunate to see 3 of Atom Egoyan's movies:
>   Next of Kin
>   Family Viewing
>   The Adjuster

>As far as I know, he has made 4. Can anyone tell me the the name of the missing 
>movie?

The other movie is called Speaking Parts, and it's readily available on video, 
at least in the United States.  It's probably my favorite Egoyan film so far.  
It features many of the same performers seen in Family Viewing and The Adjuster, 
most notably Arsinee Khanjian, who played the censor who was married to the 
adjuster.  She gives a great perfomance in Speaking Parts as a lonely woman 
obsessed with a co-worker at a hotel.  I love the way Egoyan uses the same group 
of actors again and again to explore related themes (the innate voyeurism of 
film and video, the relationship of image in art to memory and reality and to 
sex and death) in each of his movies.

I've never seen or heard of Next of Kin, though.  When did it come out?  What's 
it about?  Is it any good?

John


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner)
Subject: Re: Godzilla's son, 'Zilly movies, etc.
Keywords: Godzilla Monster Japan
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:04:11 GMT

In article <9310@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.161856.23570@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>In article <iroderic.721107907@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>>>In <1992Nov4.155829.18475@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Nov4.021751.23904@news.columbia.edu> dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>>>>I keep seeing references to Minya being called "Godzooky" or some such
>>>>in America, but I have never actualy seen it used. Anyone know if such a
>>>>stupid name was ever used for the character?
>
>>Sounds like "Godzilla's Revenge" to me. Kid dreams that he goes to 
>>Monster Island, and talks with Minya, who blows smoke rings and
>>fights monsters. Reused Battle scenes from "Godzilla Vs. The
>>Sea Monster" and others. Probably my least favorite 'Zilla film.
>>Sound about right, David?
>
>	Yep, although I saw "Destroy All Monsters", and Godzilla's smokering
>blowing son was in that one. He ringed one of Ghidora's heads. Hurt, too.
>I seem to remember everyone calling him Godzooky, but I can't be sure
>whether that was because the name propogated backwards in my memory or not.
>
>
>	Anyway, if you haven't seen any of the RECENT Godzilla films, you
>really should watch either "Godzilla vs Biollante" or "Godzilla vs King
>Ghidora". The effects in these things are just amazing for a monster
>movie. 'Zilla has expressions, moves better, and the models and sets are
>just incredible.
>
>	I have heard rumors that an American, big-budget Godzilla movie
>will be made, with the big G coming to the States (I'd guess Los Angeles?).
>Done right, that could be one HELL of a movie...
>
>
>				Sea Wasp

Godzilla's son's name is Minya, or Minira (mini-Gojira) in Japan. Godzooky
is the nephew or cousin ors oemthing of Godzilla seen in the animated
cartoon that used to run on Saturday mornings.





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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: Film Comment and Film Threat
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:29:49 GMT

Hmmm, having just picked up my first copy of Film Threat last week I 
was contemplating reviewing it here. Guess I was beaten to the punch.
I'll add my 0.02 Pfennig anyway.

Film Threat is to film commentary what Mad magazine is to humour. 
80 percent of my problems with FT can be summed up in two words;
Christian Gore. Chris' writing is lame, whiny, catty, and simply
unfunny. The issue I picked up contained a review by Gore about
VHS head cleaning tape...very lame stuff...The rest of the magazine
was pretty good, but like Ross Perot, I didn't buy that BS about
their being "Outside the film industry" for a second. The rap sheet
on Batman was well done and quite funny. If they got rid of him
(or gave him a hip pair of glasses and a decent haircut at least)
they might actually have a class act on their hands.


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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: BladeRunner: the final irony
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 07:20:28 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:

> The discussions never end :-)
> The final dialog in BR (in the '92 Director's Cut, anyway)
> has Roy Baty saying...
> 
>    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
>     ...
>     ...
>     All these moments will be lost,
>     in time,
>     like tears in rain."
> 
> Perhaps not.
> Suppose those memories were implants?

Doesn't seem likely, since Roy (in the ellided parts) is referring (dim 
memories stir) to thinks like supernovas, very very fast things and 
very very small things at quantum levels. That is, they were things by 
virtue of his supra-human powers and experience of space, and ability 
to have fast-forward and slow-mo on his vision.

[But not Quantel. ;-)]

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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From: kupec@agouron.com (John W. Kupec)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:09:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agouron Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

In article <1992Nov11.163020.27927@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
|>  [stuff deleted from my own article] Honorable mention to the Birds (school-
|> >>teacher with eyes pecked out) and some blather involving walking
|> >>trees somewhere in South America or the South Seas. 
|> >>-- 
|> >I think this blather is "The Navy versus the Night Monsters"  Which took place 
|> >on a South Pacific Island.
|> >
|> >Erik Gregersen
|> >
|> 
|> It could be one of the great Bad Monster tree movies: From Hell It Came.
|> As Ed Nahas once said, "and to hell it can go!"
|> 					--Judex--


You are correct, sir.  I looked it up and the movie was indeed From Hell
It Came (1957).  The tree monster was Tobanga or Tobonga depending on your
reference source.

-- 

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Agouron Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
San Diego, CA  92121 (619) 622-3040
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: movies worse than rocky horror
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:33:15 GMT

In article <Af0ntG_00iUx49Qd0e@andrew.cmu.edu> Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>How 'bout GOURMET ZOMBIE CHEFS FROM HELL?  No joke.  My friend Marc
>picked it up one night, along with a breast self-examination tape filed
>under "MUSICAL".
>         (*)--(*)
>        /        \
>       /  ______  \             Becky Metz (rm6p@andrew.cmu.edu)
>       \  \ \/ /  /
>     ___\  \__/  /___         
>     \_  \______/  _/           "De flim is okee dokey."- The Swedish Chef
>       \__      __/
>          \____/                "Jack not name...Jack JOB!!!"- Sweetums

Yeah it's worse, but it is intentionally so, and therefore lacks the
trademark psychoses of the more poetic, unintentionally pathetic,
efforts.
<I kinda liked the ancient brotherhood of Mystic guys who all wore the 
same hooded jogging sweatshirts in this one, though. B} >

					--Judex--
From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: "Seventh Seal" Tempest in Net Teapot (was: "Oversensitivity")
Summary: Ahem...
Keywords: alt.fan.shopping.mall.zombies
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:00:45 GMT
Organization: The Special Corps

In article <kezwfSK00iV441i1BB@andrew.cmu.edu> dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Read) writes:
>>In article <QeybjSu00WBNM1Eq0q@andrew.cmu.edu>, somebody thought dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Re
>ad) writes, but actually I (The Stainless Steel Moviegoer) wrote:
>>
>[.....]
>>project a suit of the emperor's new clothes onto films that are foreign-made
>>but merely incoherent (_The Seventh Seal_, _The Virgin Spring_, _Weekend_,
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I am Daniel Read.  I did NOT write  this rubbish.  One of the people who
>champions FILM THREAT wrote this and I dislike being associated with
>such sentiments.  (Such errors in attribution are common on the net --
>but what a terrible error to fall victim to).  

  Point 1: I am The Stainless Steel Moviegoer, the actual author of the above
quote, and I don't champion _Film Threat_. Indeed, I've never even seen one
of their issues anywhere. I was merely pointing out a couple of ways in 
which one might be "overly sensitive" in one's moviegoing. Talk about errors
in attribution...
  Point 2: "Rubbish"? What you call "rubbish", Mr. Read, is merely my own
honest opinion; I make no attempt to declare it gospel or "like it is".

>"The emperor's new clothes" argument is often invoked by those who do
>not understand.  Their failure to perceive is attributed to the world's
>shortcomings and not to their own.  Just because YOU can't see the
>clothing doesn't mean it isn't there. 

  Here I will cite the quote from the film I put beneath my by-line at the
end of the last article I wrote on this subject. I don't remember the exact
wording, or who said it, but I made a point of remembering it as an 
egregious example of _Seventh Seal_ dialogue: "Whichever way you turn, you
always have your rump behind you."
  Now, enough people have posted or e-mailed me about how much they loved
_The Seventh Seal_ to allow for the possibility that I missed something;
it's entirely possible that that particular Swedish meatball sailed right
over my head. However, if ANYONE can explain what the line actually was,
what it meant, its "artistic" and/or humorous content, how it somehow
fits into Mr. Bergman's vision., etc., please post. Enquiring minds, however
twisted, want to know. :-)
  BTW: I can't help noticing that no one tried to define "masterpiece" or
"great art". Hmmmm... :-) :-) 

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						I have seen the future of 
						rock and roll, and its name
						is Alain Jourgensen.
From: jim@otto (Jim Adamopoulos)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:53:25 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

robertej@cs.aston.ac.uk (ThinkPix) writes:

>Doesn't he also mention that one of them got fried running through an electric field?
>Or is my maths shot to hell?


From what I can remember, there were seven, with one being fried..  That leaves six but as it was said only five were explained.  I heard about deckart being a replicant about a year or two ago here in Australia..

If you look carefully, I think his eyes glow similar to that of the replicants..

Cya

Jim
From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:15:00 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <RTgZTB6w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
>nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
> 
> Is this the same "Burning" which several video review books (none of 
>which I can quote right now, since they're somewhere else) classify as a 
>stupid Fri. 13th repi-off?
> 
>marlowe



Yep.


Orlando


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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Rocky Horror - "Once in a While"
Date: 6 Nov 1992 10:53:44 GMT
Organization: Sally Strothers At-Home University
Distribution: world
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X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


Okay, this is the inside scoop on just what the heck is the song "Once in
a While" and what happened to it before the movie got released....

The song is about Brad having found out about Janet and Rocky but was,
for some reason, cut from the final release.  You can't fit it into the
continuity because they moved a lot of stuff around and stuck in some
new scenes and such.  Not that you'd really notice; the movie doesn't
exactly have the most sensible plot in the world.

Anyway, they saved part of the footage from that scene but cut out all the
parts with the song in it.  Recall Janet stumbling through the house and
lab saying "If only we hadn't.....", you know, the scene with all the
weird angle changes.  The bad angle changes are where the song used to be.

So now you know.


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From: jgp@raid.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Subject: Re: Lindsay Anderson's IF
Organization: Rational
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:51:13 GMT

pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:

>I'm wondering if the Lindsay Anderson film "If" has ever been released on 
>video. It stars Malcolm MacDowell and is one of three Anderson films that
>feature MacDowell in very striking roles. One of the others is "O Lucky 
>Man" and I forget the other.

I have "If..." on laserdisc, so assume it's available on videotape as well.

BTW, "O Lucky Man" is a sequel of sorts to "If...".

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (King Mosher)
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:51:21 GMT

S954818@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Mark Pedigo) writes:

>In article <1992Nov3.051257.11288@Bang.UUCP>
>bam@Bang.UUCP (Bret A. Marquis) writes:
> 
>>
>>
>>Most shocking movie has to be "Lord of the Flies".  The 1963 version
>>directed by Peter Brook, adapted from the William Golding novel.
>>
>>I was an 8 year old British boarding school student when the film first
>>came out.  Nightmares for years after that one.
>>
>>I never did see the 1990 remake.  Couldn't bear it!
>>
>>Bret Marquis
>Granted, there are some shocking scenes in the 1990 remake (Can't really
>compare to the original, since I've never seen it), but it is an excellent
>film.  I would reccomend it to anyone who watches movies that make a
>valid point.
>-mp
> 
> 

I've seen both and the remake pales to the '63 version. I really hate it 
when they take a damned good book and change the setting in the movie.
Why do movie people _do_ this sort of thing? It is much more effective when
prim and proper English boys degenerate into barbarians than American
soldiers boys. This, to me, screwed up everything in the '90 remake. Just 
imagine the producer of the remake doing "Dune". He'd probably film it in
the ocean with whales substituting for worms because in his narrow and
feeble mind people can "relate" better to whales.
"Arakis... Dune... ocean planet".   
--
              Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.

Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,alt.vampires
From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: Herzog's Nosferatu in the cinema!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:25:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.194805.11500@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
 writes:
>Monday after next (16-Nov-92) for only two days at the New Beverly Cinema
>here in downtown Los Angeles.  $4 for students, $4.50 for the rest of us.
>It appears to be a double feature (or at least you can stay unnoticed) with
>a real clanker (in my opinion)  --  An American Werewolf in London.  Of
>course I have no affiliation with this cinema, I just read their
>advertisements.


 There was agreat soundtrack to this film; it's probably out of print now, but 
worth looking for in used record stores (if there are such things any more.)
I found a copy in New York several years ago. 
MG

(s
>
>What a delight!  This is one of Kinski's best performances, and he is one
>of my favorite actors.  I have only seen this once before in the cinema,
>and there is so much lost on a blurry miniature videotape.
>
>I don't have their number or the ad with me, but I imagine anyone who
>could go knows how to find further information.
>
>Regards.
>-- 
>Scott Hanson       This has been a recording.
>despair@netcom.com
From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Is TRANCERS (AKA FUTURE C
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>I read this newsgroup fairly regularly and cannot recall mention of the
>movie TRANCERS (aka FUTURE COP in the US I think). Is this considered a
>cult movie, did it go on general release and was it a critical and/or
>commercial success? It is like a low budget Bladerunner to some extent.

I'd classify it as a cult movie.  And I think it was "Trancers" in the US,
too.  That's the name I have it on videotape as.  And there *has* been a
sequel......
                                                            
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From: news@newcastle.ac.uk (NEWS system)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blue Bros 2
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:21:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.

lines : 100
From: n08zd@turing.newcastle.ac.uk (D.M. Jones)
In article <BxIADL.MGt@newcastle.ac.uk>, D.M.Jones@newcastle.ac.uk (D.M. Jones) writes:
>
>In article <BxFI4A.LB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>>u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes:
>>
>>
>>>	I heard that Dan Acroyd will be making a Blues Bros 2, is this
>>>true?
>>>	I wonder whether its such a good thing to do, when you have such
>>>a classic to try and make a sequel (especially without Jake).
>>
>>Yup, they're thinking about making a sequel.  I read about this in...
>>um...I think the Chicago Tribune.
>>
>>SPOILERS!
>>
>>The premise, apparently, is that during their prison stay, Jake and
>>Elwood are separated and placed in different prisons.  When Elwood
>>(Aykroyd) is released years later, he learns that Jake has died in
>>prison.
>>
>>I don't know what the plot will be--maybe it'll center around Elwood's
>>efforts to return the blues to Chicago and eliminate house music
>>altogether from the Windy City.  This could be Aykroyd's opportunity to
>>reclaim his reputation as a terrific comedic actor, but IMHO I don't
>>think he'll be able to hack it.
>
>	I remember reading about this in one of our national papers. Apparently Elwood is simply going to be going around try to reform the band (again). Ackroyd wants the film to be a tribute to John Belushi, who he worked with often. Did anyone actually realis>e that the Bill Murray part in Ghostbusters was originally written with John Belushi in mind. However, Belushi died before filming began.
>
>	Donald
>	D.M.Jones@uk.ac.newcastle
>
>	The world is flat, it's just that my spirit level is bent.
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blue Bros 2
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:48:58 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <1992Nov7.092928.25347@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes:
>From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
>Subject: Blue Bros 2
>Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 09:29:28 GMT
>
>	I heard that Dan Acroyd will be making a Blues Bros 2, is this
>true?
Hope not!


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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Banned film for 9 years
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:27:50 GMT

In article <1ddnc5INN16v@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.204607.23611@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nealet@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Neale Type) writes:
>>I saw a full page spread here in the UK in 'The SUN' newspaper
>>advertising the release on video of a film banned since 1983 called 
>>'The Burning'... has anyone seen this film, and If so, is it any good???
>>btw its a horror flick... if you didn't guess....
>>neale
>
>Yeah, I've seen The Burning. It's about a group of kids on a summer camp
>or something who decide to play a joke on their weird caretaker. Anyway,
>it all goes horribly wrong and he ends up getting torched.
>
>Most of the film is about this horribly scarred bloke getting revenge
>(surprise, surprise...) by snuffing kids who are having sex.....
>
>Yes, it's the usual "slasher in the woods" type of affair, but it's probably
>better than most, and it has its moments. The version I saw was reasonably
>gory, but I think the new re-release has been cut. I'd say the uncut version
>was worth watching once, but there are far better films on the "nasties" 
>list.
>

Tom Savini did the effects for it and wrote a chapter on it in his
book "Grande Illusions".  I can't imagine why it would be banned,
the clips I saw seemed no worse than your standard Friday the 13th
rip-off.


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