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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Source of complaint about localhost != 127.0.0.1
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:45:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: atlantis.iv81Hh-!4a
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute

In article <MRL.92Oct14055021@sun4.uai.com> mrl@uai.com (Mark R. Ludwig) writes:
>I installed IDA 1.4.4.1 sendmail a couple weeks ago, and I'm now
>installing MH and a POP so our PCs can send and receive mail and all
>our Unix users can get mail on any host without administrative
>intervention.  In configuring MH, I've set "mts: sendmail/smtp"
>because the docs claim this yields a superior interface.  I'm not so
>sure, but before I experiment with removing the "/smtp" part, I want
>to track down and eliminate a message which I get whenever I send mail
>from MH.  It appears on the (SunOS 4.1.1b) console, and in
>/var/adm/messages:
>
>  Oct 13 11:28:20 sun4 sendmail[23901]: gethostbyaddr: localhost != 127.0.0.1

Make sure 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. also resolves to "localhost"

You need the reverse pointer too.

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: aliases and the "To:" line
From: Ross Druker <RS0VRD@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:26:51 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

The sitch:

Say Bob and John both have acccounts on host1 and host2.  Bob has
host1 on his desk and John has host2.  If Bob has an alias for John in
/usr/lib/aliases of the form john: john@host2.ourdomain, and he sends
a message by typing "mail john", then sendmail
will route the mail correctly -- John receives the mail on host2.

But the mail message itself will contain the To: line john@host1.ourdomain.
I think this is because sendmail assumes that "john" is local and appends
the local host and domain.  It doesn't seem to realize that John is aliased
when re-writing the To: line.  Is there some way to get the To: line and
the actual host delivered to in sync?  I realize this is more of a cosmetic
problem and not a functional one, but can it be "fixed"?
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: keithr@adp.uucp (Keith Rye)
Subject: underscore as delimiter in sendmail.cf
Organization: U of Wisconsin ADP
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:08:58 GMT

 

I'd like to transform "From:" addresses of the format

  smtplink%first_last_at_PostOfficeName@host   
     - to -
  first.last@host

Using sendmail on AIX 3.2 I was thinking about adding the underscore as a
delimiter so I can define rules to pattern match these addresses.

What obvious problem am I overlooking by adding the underscore to the 
delimiter list?  I realize there will be more tokens generated by sendmail 
because of this but this should only be a problem with $- type patterns.      

It sure seems like the wrong thing to do but ...  using 
at least this version of sendmail my only other option is to write all 
outbound messages to disk and awk/sed them into a better format.

thanks,
Keith   (keithr@beau.adp.wisc.edu)
         keith.rye@mail.admin.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: kimc@netcom.com (Kim Culhan)
Subject: UUCP addresses rewritten?
Summary: Stock Sun 4.1.2 sendmail.main.cf not handling UUCP address
Keywords: UUCP
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:52:34 GMT

My Sun 4.1.2 sendmail.main.cf does not handle uucp addresses.
Mail is immediately bounced and the mailer daemon delivers this message:

From Mailer-Daemon Tue Oct  6 12:45:22 1992
Return-Path: <Mailer-Daemon>
Received: by w8hd.org (4.1/SMI-4.1)
	id AB12174; Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:45:20 EDT
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:45:20 EDT
From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Status: R
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
bad system name: w3vh
uux failed ( 68 )
550 rolfe@w3vh.uucp... Host unknown
550 Postmaster... User unknown
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:09:40 EDT
From: kimc (Kim Culhan)
Message-Id: <9210061609.AA12110@w8hd>

Any ideas?
From: jerry@gristle.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: how to define specific return address?
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: poster


I have a NeXT that sends mail  via uucp and has a registered domain
name unit.edu. Currently the From: gives the uucp return address:
unit!user@ucsd.edu I'd like to change this to user@unit.edu

Dq is like this:
Dq$g$?x ($x)$.
Header is defined thus:
H?F?From: $q

If I replace $g with unit.edu I get: 
 From: unit.edu%somereturnpath

If I replace $g with $x@unit.edu I get:
 From: fullname@unit.edu
		which is close to what I want.
		Is there a variable for username?

Obviously there is something going on here that is over my head.
Could someone clue me in?

Thanks,

=
--
----
Jerry@gristle.com

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: underscore as delimiter in sendmail.cf
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:21:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.220858.20851@adp.uucp> keithr@adp.uucp (Keith Rye) writes:
>
>What obvious problem am I overlooking by adding the underscore to the 
>delimiter list?  I realize there will be more tokens generated by sendmail 
>because of this but this should only be a problem with $- type patterns.      

The main thing you have to watch for is that host names may not be
of the form
	$-.$-.$-....

Most likely this will not be a problem.

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rudi@igc.ethz.ch (Rudi V. Drunen Groningen)
Subject: bitnet mail routing 
Followup-To: comp.mail.sendmail 
Keywords: bitnet sendmail configuration
Organization: Computational Chemistry, ETH, Zuerich
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:56:29 GMT


OK, this is my $0.02 question on sendmail. 
I'm quite new to the subject, so don't blame me for asking the obvious
question to you sendmail gugus.

I am running sendmail on a HP 9000/720 HP/UX 8.something machine. I use
this machine as a relay for all workstations in our group.
If I receive a mail message for an Internet style address, (from some other workstation, talking to this relay host) I use the name
server to get the right address,(or mx record) and send it directly, no
problem it works ! Now for the Bitnet mail. I wanna send to user@somehost.bitnet
for example. The problem is now that the machine tries to solve for the address, but it cannot find a MX record of course. So I get my mail back. Now I defined a relay host for unsolverd addresses, as in the manual (or the comments in the 
sendmail file,) but this will only work if I define the hosts this machine
can connect directly to. This scheme I cannot use, because I can connect directly to all hosts exept for the machines with .bitnet.What do I have to do 
(in hackin' rules or macros) to get all mail ending on .bitnet routed to
this one defined relay host ?

Maube someone with a similar setup can give me a clue / send me a sample
sendmail.cf....

Thanks a lot, pleas reply by email.

Rudi van Drunen
rudi@igc.ethz.ch,
From: pgreen@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Philip Green)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: What to do about queued up mail
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:09:31 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM


After a recent power failure we lost a machine. All the mail
destined for that machine was properly delivered to the
next MX which was holding the mail in queue. I later found
out that it would be a week before the failed machine was
repaired. If I change the aliases for the users on that
machine how do I go about force sendmail to look at the
queued up mail and deliver it to the new alias?

Thanks
-- 
Phil Green                           	pgreen@aoc.nrao.edu
NRAO					505.835.7294
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Invoking differnet local mailers based on a (CNAME) domain part?
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:52:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.153443.21874@amd.com> chris@loki.amd.com (Chris Martin) writes:
>I would like to bind CNAME records to mail-based services but I'm
>running into a tricky architectural problem:

Don't do that.  Use MX records, or even alternate A-records, but don't use
CNAME records.

>The problem is that most sendmails (including my internal and external
>relays) will resolve fax[.amd.com] back to tetsuo.amd.com.

RFC1123 explicitly states that CNAME names are not permitted in
email addresses.  Eliminate the CNAME, replace it with an MX, and
most likely all will work nicely.
From: Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Supporting "username+suffix.string"
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:31:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvuA0y.MB0.2
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon Univ, Nectar Project

MMDF provides the very convenient facility whereby a user can be
addressed with a "+SuffixString" appendage to the username, which can
then be used in, e.g., the .maildelivery file to determine disposition
of the mail.

I'd like to be able to support this sort of thing under sendmail as
well.  I've got most of the issues of sendmail proper taken care of.
I've added "+" to the "Do" line so that it's recognized as a valid
token separator.  There's a line just ahead of $#local delivery in S0
which reads

R$-+$*<@$*$D>		$@$#plusprog$:$1+$2		local "user+suffix"

and then there's a mailer definition for this new delivery mode:

Mplusprog, P=/usr/lib/sendmplus, F=DFMls, A=sendmplus $u

So far, I've been experimenting with a trivial semdmplus which echoes
its arguments and cats its stdin to a file, so I can see that the
interface is giving me what I need.

Now I need a real program to put in place of this toy sendmplus.

Has anybody done this sort of thing in the past?  Are there any
existing packages out there which provide the rest of the capability
for which I'm searching?  Would something like "deliver" be suited to
this?

Any input welcome.

--karl
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: mcgraw@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu (Robert McGraw)
Subject: aliases problem
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 21:28:18 GMT

I have a user who wants to receive mail addressed to the name
``sunspotter'' but have the mail messages stored in seperate file
in his account. I put the following line in the /etc/aliases file.

sunspotter:  |"/usr/bin/cat  - >> /home/mhd/wizard/spotter/input/general" 

The problem is that the file has to be rw-rw-rw- for the mail to
be sent to the account. 

Is there a way to get around having the file rw by everyone?

Could you please respond by email.

Thanks
Robert


-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
Robert P. McGraw, Jr.    
System Manager                 INTERNET:rmcgraw@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu
National Solar Observatory/SP  SPAN: 5355::RMCGRAW or NOAO::RMCGRAW
Sunspot, NM 88349 USA          PHONE: (505) 434-7038
From: dave@das13.snide.com (Dave Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Vacation ???
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:04:36 GMT
Organization: Snide Computer Services - Folcroft, PA

I know this is probably the wrong group to post to but... you do need sendmail
to run the vacation program.  Anyway...

Does anyone have or know where I can get the source to the version of
"vacation" that uses the older dbm/ndbm rather than the new hashing dbm?

Thanks!!!

DAS
-- 
David Snyder @ Snide Computer Services - Folcroft, PA          Current Release
                                                               is db4glgen-3.7
UUCP:  ..!uunet!das13!dave   INTERNET:  dave.snyder@snide.com
From: umarsa00@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (PROF. A.S. UMAR, (615)322-2459)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: OK MX  enabling in sendmail.cf
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:20:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ctrvx1.8OCT199211201569
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am using an RS/6000 with AIX 3.2.2:

Sometime ago I had to sent mail to some addresses with .com extension.
These names were not resolved and somebody told me that I had to uncomment
the line with OK MX in the sendmail.cf file. I did this and it seemed to
have worked. Today I realize that all addresses that have extension .gov
do not receive my mail whereas .edu 's do just fine. I commented out the
line OK MX, did a sendmail -bz and a refresh -s (IBM LINGO). 
After that .gov addresses
immedfiately received my mail. Can I have both working? What is going on?
HELP!!!!

umar@compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu         Prof.A.S. Umar
umarsa00@vuctrvax.bitnet                Department of Physics & Astronomy
Tel: (615) 322-2459                     Vanderbilt University
Fax: (615) 343-7263                     Nashville, TN 37235
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: feoh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Patti)
Subject: Fixing sendmail.cf so it autoroutes to UUCP hosts.
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:11:13 GMT

Hello, does anyone out there know how to fix sendmail.cf so that when you
mail to a UUCP host with a standard internet adress (foo@bar.com,, etc)
the mailer will be smart enough to route it for you? 

Example: microware.com is not on the internet proper, and our sendmail will
not mail to that adress saying 'host unknown'..

If anyone has any ideas, suggestions, tips or tricks in regard to this issue
please send mail to unix_folks@ncm.interlan.com

Thanks in advance,
Chris Patti
chrisp@ncm.interlan.com
feoh@gnu.ai.mit.edu



Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Subject: Re: What to do about queued up mail
Reply-To: avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:54:55 GMT


You do this:

1. modify the sendmail.cf so that both the other machine name as
well as the real one is treated as the local machine.

2. Put aliases in /etc/aliases for the real (new) addresses.

W/o looking at your config file I'd not be able to tell you want to
change but if there is a comment about a class of names equiv. to you
that  would be the place to do it.  Look for lines starting with the
letter C

Fred
Xref: sparky comp.mail.sendmail:2535 comp.mail.misc:3413
From: kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Wildcard MX records-- yea or nay?
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:54:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cfctech.1992Oct16.025436.11731
Organization: Chrysler Financial Corp., Southfield, MI

In article <1992Oct14.200041.13730@b30.ingr.com> doug@jhawk.b30.ingr.com. writes:
>  Looking for a bit of netwisdom on the use of wildcard MX records specifically
>and name resolution and sendmail in general.
>
>  First some background. We have a large campus with many domains delegated
>under our parent. The children nameservers each service some 500 hosts each 
>with most running sendmail but with a few running only uucp. We've configured 
>our DNS databases with hosts running sendmail having MX records pointing to 
>themselves and with wildcard MX's pointing to the relayhosts to pick up the
>stragglers (uucp hosts).
>
>  This is a problem with the wildcard matching bogus hosts. I've heard little
>good about wildcard MX's other than possibly saving some DNS configuration for
>the UUCP-only hosts.
>
>  It seems that wildcard MXing is not such a good thing?

Okay, let's say you have a destination address "uunet.uu.net", being sent 
from a machine in the "podunk.edu" domain. Now, let's say that the machine 
is running a brain-dead mailer with an algorithm that ALWAYS tacks on the 
local domain to an address for its first lookup. So it queries MX RRs for 
"uunet.uu.net.podunk.edu". If there's a *.podunk.edu MX record, then, voila! 
we have a match. The message gets punted to wherever the wildcard MX points 
to, regardless of whether you want that machine to be an outbound gateway or 
not. Then the gateway has to forward it onto its final destination. Two hops
instead of just one.

If you have gateway resources to burn, maybe you don't care about the excess
relaying. If you have mailers which follow a more sane lookup sequence, you 
probably won't care either (many mailers only tack on the local domain on 
the first lookup _if_ the destination address is completely unqualified, 
which alleviates the problem greatly). If you care to set up lots of private 
DNS gunk to protect yourself from bogus wildcard MX matches, I suppose that 
might be workable too. Wildcard MX'es aren't Inherently Evil -- they're just 
Yet Another Thing that can potentially bite a mail admin in the ass if said 
mail admin neglects to plan and test ahead of time...

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From: woods@claven.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
Subject: Re: sendmail[13050]: AA13045: locked, what is this?
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:27:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.171110.16475@Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> berg@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) writes:
>I noticed entries like the following:
>
>sendmail[13050]: AA13045: locked
>
>in my syslog file about every 15 minutes.  I was just wondering, what does
>it mean?

It means that a queue run daemon, which is presumably being kicked off
every 15 minutes (see what the -q option value is when the daemon is
started at boot time), is finding a message in the queue that is
locked, probably because another sendmail is processing it. This is
completely normal to see on a busy mail host. It means a message was in
the process of being sent when the queue run fired up. If the "AA13045"
is the same number every time, you've got a stuck message. Newer
sendmails use flock(2) or similar locking mechanism (in which case you
can find the offending process by looking at running sendmail
processes), but older sendmails can leave an lfAA13045 file lying
around (in /usr/spool/mqueue, probably), in which case this message
will never be processed. If you can verify that there is no other
sendmail process working on this message, remove the lf file and it
will be sent the next time the queue run fires up.

--Greg
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: jinho@iti.gov.sg (Tan Jin Ho)
Subject: Wanted: PC Windows Email for Unix mail
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:05:00 GMT


I am looking for an MS Windows-based Email application program that runs on
top of standard PC TCP/IP networks and uses SMTP and/or POP. (ie. it can
read and send UNIX mail).

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.


Tan Jin Ho
jinho@iti.gov.sg
From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: setting mailer userid
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:51:04 GMT
	<rhoward.718474180@matd> <1992Oct7.172748.6661@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia

Neil> You should be able to pipe the output of 'printenv' through a
Neil> sed script to get a list of all values defined in the
Neil> environment, and just eliminate them all.

Or use "env - /usr/lib/sendmail -bd ...."

Env should be on just about all unixes, I remember it on V7.

Greg.
--
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne Australia
``USL has never sold long distance.  You're going after the wrong men in black 
  hats.  (Or, in the case of Plan 9, black space suits)'' - Tom Limoncelli
From: msirota@ee.rochester.edu (Mark Sirota)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Sendmail loses getpwent() info
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:47:19 GMT
Reply-To: Mark Sirota <msirota@socrates.ee.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester Department of Electrical Engineering

Using Sun's sendmail.mx under SunOS 4.1.1 on a SPARC SLC:

Periodically, our sendmail daemon seems to screw up when calling whatever
getpwent() routine it calls when recognizing local users.

What happens is that if I send mail to a valid local user, it will bounce
with "User unknown".  Furthermore, if I mconnect to mail server and to "vrfy
username", where username is a valid user, it will report User unknown.

However, finger and all the other commands that do getpwent() in presumably
the same fashion work fine.  Killing and restarting the sendmail daemon
fixes everything for a while (usually a few days to a few weeks).

Furthermore, it only seems to happen to a few users.  There are a couple of
users who seem to frequently "get lost", while others are not lost.
I am resistant to diagnosing the problem while those users are "lost",
because until I restart the daemon, they are not getting their mail.

Anyone have any ideas what might be going on?  We have another mail server,
which is a Sun-3/80 running 4.1.1 that never seems to have this problem.
They are the only two machines under my control that ever do local mail
delivery, so I don't have much to go on.

I have verified that the sendmail binary is not corrupt.  I don't see how it
can have anything to do with the sendmail configuration (both servers are
running the same configuration), or with NIS (each mail server is also the
NIS server for its NIS, DNS, and mail domain -- and besides, other programs
that use NIS work fine).

Please help me brainstorm on this one!  It sure is frustrating!
-- 
Mark Sirota <msirota@ee.rochester.edu>
Systems Staff, College of Engineering, University of Rochester, Rochester NY
From: de@helios.ucsc.edu (De Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Sendmail explicit functional description doc WANTED
Date: 16 Oct 1992 01:29:51 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

I am seeking some way (other than Turing-type empiricism or
reading the source!) to know what sendmail is really doing.

Please, does anyone know of a book, paper, FAQ, yellowing scroll,
stone tablet or other repository of knowledge that will tell me:

1.  what does a mail message REALLY look like (envelope, header,
    text, all the bits & pieces)

2.  which pieces of the mail message go through the sendmail mill
    in what order, and why

3.  when mailers silently rewrite addresses due to flags in the
    mailer definition, at what point exactly does this happen

and other similar questions.  I can make sendmail do pretty
much what I want, and I can read a .cf file -- but I still feel
I am dealing with a black box and I Want to Know More.

an inquiring mind thanks you in advance

(e-mail please, probably everyone else in the world either
 already knows this stuff or doesn't want to!)

--de

PS anyone interested in a SunOS 4.1 special debugging sendmail?
   I've built one that writes real debug logfiles when running
   in actual operational mode.  I can't give you the source, 
   but if you want the exe just drop me a line.  sun4 only.
   It's useful when you want to know more than Sun or the manual
   will tell you....

..............................................................................
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