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From: jcitro3@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III)
Subject: Re: Lee Corso's latest prediction
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:17:46 GMT

m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com  writes:
> --
> >For those of you who missed it, Lee Corso last night predicted that 
> >Louisville will beat Texas A&M on Saturday.
> 
> >And he again predicted that Arizona will beat Washington.
> 
> >And it looked like he really pissed off Tom Osborne.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> >And I'm leaving now.
> 
> >GT
> 
> Can you expand upon the Tom Osborne thing? This gives us no idea what you are
> talking about.

Here is a summary of the interview from what I can recollect...
The interview took place during the half time show of the Kansas State-Iowa 
State game thursday night  (5 Nov. 92).  Don't expect this to be verbatim :)

The first question asked of T.O. was could his offense win a National 
Championship?  To which T.O. replied that he thought he could citing Notre 
Dame's championship a couple years ago.  T.O. did say that NU would have to 
throw more effectively than it has so far this year.

The next question went to Glenn Mason and was something like can KU go into
Lincoln and win to which Mason responded he thought they could.  About this
time Glenn Mason joked about T.O.'s tie saying that Tom does not have the
taste to pick out such a nice tie (it looked similar to Mason's).  T.O. joked
back saying a Basketball Coach picked it out for him (an obvious reference to
NU's B-Ball Coach Danny Nee).

Then Corso jumped in and asked T.O. why after 20 years as head coach, 8 Big 8
titles (he slipped first and said Big 10 :) ) had T.O. not won a National
Championship?  T.O. must have expected this question because he immediately
said " I guess for the same reasons you never won one Lee. "  T.O. was 
laughing as he said this as was Mason and everyone but Corso.  T.O. went on to
say that it is hard to win something that is voted on (an inference for a
playoff system?) but, that he felt that he did have a couple teams that were
of National Championship caliber.  He closed by stating with a smile
something to the 
effect of 

 "Besides everyone knows I can't win the big one."
                                                    
There was more that I can't recall.  Most of it was T.O. and Mason patting
each other on the back.


bedebedebede  that's all folks!!!!


                                        Joe Citro III
                                         
 
                    

 
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: The REAL top five
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:30:43 GMT


1. Florida State
2. Alabama
3. Michigan
4. Miami
5. Notre Dame

No, I'm not a Florida State fan.  In fact, I hate them and their
stupid cheer and tommy-hawk chop.  It's just that I think they have
the strongest team in the country.  Miami was lucky.  Alabama, I'm now
convinced, could beat anyone with their defense.  Michigan has an
offense that won't quit.  Miami has the luck of the, er, well they
have luck.  Notre DAme is now playing as well as anyone.  As for
Washington, they beat Nebraska, but then couldn't do anything this
week.  Go figure.  Nebraska just might belong in the top five.  Texas
A&M.  Um, well, um, who knows?  Maybe they're good, maybe not.  It's
too hard to tell right now.



Of course, I could be wrong.





-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Re: Glen Mason to Ohio State?
Organization: Bell Communications Research
	<1992Nov10.153611.21421@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:39:48


Steve Casburn writes:

>      I'm not making any predictions here -- just pointing out some other
> possibilities. And if Cooper beats Michigan and wins a bowl game, who knows
> what will happen with him. It's all up in the air right now.

I'd say if Cooper is able to do either (provided we beat Indiana this
weekend), he'll definately be back despite all the hootin' and hollerin' of
the fans.  That would put us at least at 9-3 which would be our best record
under Cooper.  You don't fire a guy after his best year.  Granted, he may
decide to leave on his own, but I'd say that's a pretty slim possibility
right now.  He doesn't strike me as a quitter (USC game a few years ago
excepted :-)).

This leads me to wonder.  How is the mood in Columbus right now regarding
Cooper?  Are people still all over his case or are they just waiting with
bated breath for the next loss so they can scream bloody murder once more?
I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
lay off his case for awhile.

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Piscataway, NJ 08854

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 and wrong." - H.L. Mencken
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From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: Gupta Power Ratings 11/11/92
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:51:39 GMT

Bapi,  A couple of years ago I wrote a computer ranking program on my Mac in
THINK pascal. The interface is atrocious but the rankings weren't too bad.
I've been seriously thinking of rewriting the program in 'C' on a Sun
Sparcstation at work and posting the results to this newsgroup. But the sheer
amount of data that needs to be manually entered keeps putting me off. Do you
by any chance still have the initial schedules for all the Div I-A teams on
some sort of electronic media? I'd rather write a new function to read from a
data file than to sit and enter everything by hand. :-) From there I could use
the game results printed on tuesdays showing how every team has done so far to
enter the scores. It's just the initial schedule with the game dates that I
need.

Thanks
--
Skip Burrell				Internet:	skipb@unomaha.edu
Comp. Sci. Graduate Student		compuserve: 	76146,2323
University of Nebraska at Omaha		AOL:		skipb
My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
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From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: Re: UW, Arizona, & Miami
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:46:56 GMT

    brother almost beat me in basketball for this same reason, and since
    then he has never come close....just like if Miami and UA played
    again, the game would not be close.


You are right, if they played in Arizona, Arizona would probably
win 16-3.



   I agree, but I do not think Arizona is at Miami's level.


Right, also. Arizona does not continually whine about everything in the
world. Miami plays good football, but are a classless program... I
remember when they came to the Fiesta Bowl - what a bunch of spoiled
children!
--
toma@tc.cornell.edu - Rory Toma

Opinionated and tunnel-visioned? Darn right. But then, my employer really
doesn't know what I'm talking about anyway...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK)
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:37:32 GMT

In article <6844@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.140146.12704@lgc.com>, mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>|> 
>|>  [Stuff about Torretta finding a way to win in crunch time.]
>|> 
>|> 
>|> >>
>|> >>Sorry.  In crunch time, some FSU joke tried to field a punt at the 1.  In
>|> >         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >
>|> >Um, actually, it wasn't the player's fault. He was told by "Mr. Choke" Bowden
>|> >to try and make something happen. Of course, the wrong thing happened. Just
>|> >another screw up by everybody's so-called "saint". Don't go blaming players
>|> >for the fuck-ups of moronic coaches.
>|> >
>|> 
>|> I stand corrected.  Of course, the point is still valid, i.e. that Torretta
>|> did not "find a way to win" that game.
>
>You stand corrected again....what do you call his game winning (PERFECT)
>touchdown pass?  It seems to me that you are stuck on thinking that the saftey
>won the game....well, since it seems that you cannot add, grab a calculator and
>enter in 19.  Then subtract 2...if I am going to fast, that is for the saftey.
>Now see if it is greater than 16.  If you get stuck, call me.

I believe he was trying to say that if the safety had not occured, then the
last drive of FSU would have been for the win. However, we all know that FSU
can't kick a game winning field goal if the goal posts were a mile wide. If,
by some miracle, Mowery had managed to kick the field goal, then the game
would have been won (without the safety)...get out _your_ calculator and try
to figure this one out.

>
>|> 
>|> >
>|> >Kevin
>|> >
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
>|> mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 282-6699
>|> "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

Kevin
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Pac10 Ruling on the Huskies
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:30:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov12.233054.966
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

The Pac-10 committee hearing the Billygate scandal has voted unanimously to
recommend to the Pac-10 that Washington NOT be forced to forfeit any games.

GT
From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Washington vs. Arizona
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:46:52 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov7.234015.28427@u.washington.edu> baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
>
>  Congratulations to Arizona.  The 'Cats played a flawless games and took
>the ball away 4 times, while Washington misfired on 4-5 scoring opportinities.

Ever since the close shave at Miami, I was convinced that Arizona has a
very strong team.  I mean, it takes one HELL of a defense to hold an 
offensive power like Miami to 20 yards (or whatever it was) rushing.
I knew this year's Washington team needed a perfect game to beat the
Wildcats and they didn't play one (not taking anything away from Arizona).

Anyway, I saw it coming and I even won two bets by taking Arizona +7! :)

>Miami is #1
>
>Couple of good things came out of this:
> 1) The dispute over who's #1!!
> 2) The Huskies will not slack off and will try their best to win the
>    last 3 games (bowl game included).
>
>I am still prepared for the worst -->  An 0-9 record on Thursday!!
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What are you talking about?

>Go Huskies!!
>
>-Behzad  :)  *still smiling regardless of the loss*


-- 
Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: 1993 College Pool
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:40:31 GMT
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose

For several reasons, I don't think I'll be able to run the 8th annual
CFPOOL next year (I'm moving, I don't know if I'll have net access, I'm
going to become a parent and thus will have no free time).  This is one
of the older traditions on USEnet, and I'd hate to see it die.  So, I'm
looking for a volunteer who would be willing to continue it.

Running the pool takes 5-10 hours per week during football season, split
between Wednesday evenings and Sundays.  One must make and send entry
game lists, Email to folks whose entries are malformed, make up Vegas and
Sagarin entries (not necessary, but traditional), make and send recap
sheets, enter final game results, and make and send result postings.

Obviously, USEnet access is required, and knowing where you'll be next
year is a definite plus.  Being on a Unix(tm) system is also a plus, 
because I can supply software that automates most of the mindless parts
of the job (most of it is written in 'C' and 'csh').

This is a chance to do some "volunteer work" that provides some amount
of enjoyment for many users.  Folks who are interested in the job should
contact me via Email.
--
Chris Stassen			408-943-0630			stassen@alc.com
From: ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Koontz Computer Predictions 11-14
Keywords: NCAA, Computer Predictions
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:32:34 GMT
Distribution: rec

Here are the predictions by my computer algorithm.  This is my first try
at using the algorithm on college games.  I am about 75% against the spread
in NFL games.  I have tested my algorithm on college games and made a few
minor adjustments and seem to be doing fairly well.

Texas A&M   13
Houston     41

Penn State  41
Notre Dame  27

Arizona     51
USC         20

Colorado     6
Kansas      31

BYU         41
Air Force   27

Syracuse    13
BC          38

Oregon St.  23
Washington  24

Temple       8
Miami        9

Illinois    13
Michigan    10

Nebraska    41
Iowa State  35

Tulane      16
Florida St. 17

SMU         38
Texas       21

W. Virginia 20
Rutgers      3

Hawaii      54
SD St.      40

Louisville  27
Pitt        13

California  27
Arizona St. 20

Baylor       3 
Rice        16

Ohio State   3
Indiana     27

Wake Forest 41
Ga. Tech    21

Comments please.

Carl
ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Nebraska defeats Colorado
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:42:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.195309.98573@evolving.com> pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil) writes:
>manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov6.221352.13647@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>: >
>: >No but You must admit that the town slants drastically left.
>: 
>: Maybe, but it's still better than being a redneck hangout like Lincoln!
>: 
>: >Man, when you get beat like that just take it, keep your mount shut (you have
>: 							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: you mean mouth?

I was just curious to know how one can keep their *mount* shut.

>: 
>: >Husker Henderson
>: 
>: Njan
>
>Good Njan, when you can't find anything else to pick on, pick on the people 
>and the city and petty typos.  Why cant you learn to keep your mouth shut.  

So how about the *classy* NU fans picking on Boulder? If Boulder is a leftist
town, Lincoln is the KKK headquarters!!!

I definitely did not offer a cheap excuse for CU's loss as some of the
classier CU buffs fans!

>To all netters (especially Marty and Skip), I apologize on behalf of semi-
>rational (you have to be semi-rational when it comes to NU  :-)  ) CU fans for
>the postings by Njan.  Not all CU fans are like him. 

Please.. don't be so patronizing... I don't need someone apologising on my
behalf. If I ever need one, I'll let you know.. for the time being, I can
do without it.

Have you ever thought about minding your own business? Or maybe not.. If I know
your type correctly, you can't live without messing with other peoples business.

>--Pranav 

I am sure CU can do without *fans* like this one...

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Big 8 woof
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:20:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.132952@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
>
>I wouldn't count KU to lose to CU.  By the Relativity Theorem.....
>KU beat OU at KU, while CU tied OU at CU.   And KU didn't get thumped
>by NU as bad as CU.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah right!

>CU loses
>	Off:
>	line-Hansen,Perkins,

I don't think this perkins guy is a starter...

>	WR/TE-Keys

????

>	PK-Blottiaux

On the whole, the offense is not going to be affected much...

>	Def:
>	line-Elder

injured...

>	LB-Brown, Biekert
>	DB-Figures, Bradford

but the defense will... 

>NU loses
>	Off:
>	line-Zyzda,Scott,Chorney,Shields

well, are they all starters? Then little Tommy is going to have some fun playing
in Boulder next year... esp considering that the whole def line will be back...

>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC Heisman Woofin'
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:06:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdl141.sdd.hp.com

>In article <1992Nov4.204956.20191@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:
>>
>>Perfect time for a plug (sounds like Ross Perot, huh?).
>>
>>Lloyd Hill of Texas Tech for the Heisman.  Yes, I'm sure there's
>>a media bias against giving anyone from the SWC the Heisman more than
>>once every 20 years.  Who was the last SWC player to win a Heisman?
>>Earl Campbell?  Or did Craig James win it?  Can't remember it's been
>>so long.

Andre Ware, Houston, 1989.

Laura Mansfield
TAMU '90
Beat the hell outta cougar high!!

-----------------------------------------------------------

Laura C. Mansfield (laura@sdd.hp.com)
San Diego Printer Division
Hewlett-Packard

"And he will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water which
 yields fruit in its season; its leaf does not wither and in whatever
 he does he prospers."


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From: C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan)
Subject: Re: ND/PSU--third time's a charm?
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:13:06 CST

I just cannot see a Paterno team loose a fourth game this season.  They
are due to win a big one and they are going to be focused on ND.
I hope the Nittany Lions stomp those green midgets!
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What's the Bowl picture?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:03:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx93A9.7zF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:

>So far it's looking like the following:

>Orange Bowl:Nebraska/BC or ND?
>Cotton Bowl:Texas/FSU?
             ^^^^^
                 A joke right.  Am I violating the woofing theorem???  I
                 didn't say who the obvious choice is,.....  Baylor,  yea
                 that's it, it should be Baylor, not Texas...

                 :):):):):)

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

The woofing gawds will frown on me today.


>Sugar Bowl:Alabama/Miami?
>Blockbuster Bowl:Penn State/?
>Rose Bowl:Washington/Michigan
>Fiesta Bowl:?
>Citrus Bowl:? 
From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:27:19 GMT
Subject: Re: What happened to OU?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college


>> >Probation happened to OU, pal.  Try cutting your scholarships in half
>> for >several years and see what happens to your team.  It ain't pretty
>> and OU >probably won't be top-flight for a couple more years.
>> >
>> So why don't the OU fans understand Gibb's predictament?
>> Sending a UHaul to his house.  Some support.

Did I miss something here.  I don't "get" the reference to
the UHaul.  

>> --
>> Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
>> (uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
>> (800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
>
>Scott,
>  I'm sorry, but, I have to say you are correct. It saddens me when
>my clueless OU friends don't understand this. These are people that
>are losers in everyday life and the only thing that is positive is
>OU Football, and when they aren't winning, they get upset.
>
>                                                    .....Mike

I'll admit to being an impatient OU fan who goes back and forth on 
Gibbs.  I understand very well that probation has hurt OU.  I also 
admire the job he has done given the condition the program was in 
when he took it over.  *But*, IMHO, there are games which OU has lost 
(Texas past few years, and USC this year) in which the team has 
appeared ininspired and unprepared.  This, in my mind, reflects badly 
on the entire OU coaching staff.

If a fan had a UHaul delivered to Gibb's house, well, this kind of
stuff is sickening.  I agree - these folks are loosers, along with 
the kind of fan who would dump beer on Gibbs after a game.  No matter 
how poor the team plays, Gibb's deserves more respect than this.

>-- 
>Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com
>----------

GregB
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Am I alone here or what?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:53:17 GMT

In article <1dhaaiINN5d9@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>Are there any other Wisconsin (or other schools) fans who just wants to puke
>because of the offensive play-calling? UW can run the ball on Mich State, but
>they just refuse to pass. No first down passes on about a 50-yard drive to
>open the game which resulted in a field goal. Then on 3rd-and-10, Alvarez
>calls a draw. AAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Pass the fucking ball on first down sometimes!!!!!!!
>
>p.s. Do any of you fans of Pac 10 teams have this problem?  

Oh, yeah -- Cal's Bruce Gilbertson is oh-so-predictable.  I still hold
him largely responsible for the loss to U$C, as by the fourth quarter,
the Trojans had him totally sniffed out.

OSU's wishbone is also pretty boring, and real tough to play catch-up with...



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From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: FYI: Current NCAA rankings for the BUFFS
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:25:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.013908.18370@ncar.ucar.edu>
ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>
>I find it interesting that Miami only shows up in the top 5 for scoring
>defense and passing. How could a number 1 ranked team not lead any of these
>stats let alone only show up twice in the top five in these 8 catagories.
>Makes you wonder, huh?.
>
>-ethan
 
Wonder?  I see no mystery here.  Perhaps you've forgotten that neither of
the 1990 MNCs showed up even once in the top five in these 8 categories.
Teams are usually voted #1 because they've beaten difficult opposition,
not because they lead some statistical category.  In 1990 Northern Illinois
led the nation rushing offense and Central Michigan led in scoring defense.
 
What does this prove?  Stats are for losers.
 
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