From: rjv@a2.cim.cdc.com (Rene Valdes x4660)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: AIDS and those damn democrats
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:53:37 GMT
Reply-To: rjv@a2.cim.cdc.com (Rene Valdes x4660)
Followup-To: talk.bizarre


In article <1992Jul23.153126.22572@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, noyes@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
|> Is it so ludicrous to suggest that people stop engaging in the type
|> of behavior that is known to spread the AIDS virus. It is a simple 
|> solution, I know, but why not try it? I think that people would
|> rather just throw lots of money trying trying to fix diseases like
|> AIDS, rather than curing the behavior that caused it!

People have been trying to educate people about the risks involved in
certain unprotected sexual practices for years and they have been very
effective in curbing the spread of HIV infection among certain
populations.  Unfortunately, the Republican administrations have
been extremely reluctant to provide the needed leadership and funding
to promote this educational process.  It has been done by individuals
who care.  Because of the neglect of our government, many more thousands
of people, men and women, gay, bi, and straight, people of all races, will
die.  Many will be young people.  Yes, Mr. Noyes, we want people to know
how to protect themselves (without giving up sex), but we definitely need
to find a cure for this disease, just as we need to find a cure for any disease
that causes human suffering and death.

|> The only AIDS infected people that I have compassion for are the
|> innocent health care workers, children, transfussion patients, and
|> rape victims that have contacted the disease through incidental means.
|> The others that have contracted it knew there was a risk, and didn't beat
|> the odds. 

This is absolutely false.  There are thousands upon thousands of people,
living and working today and contributing to society, who were exposed
to HIV before 1982, before even the terms HIV and AIDS had been created.
They did not know of such a risk.  There are thousands upon thousands of
people also who got infected after this date because they did not know 
about this desease, due to the lack of leadership in this country.  There are
no innocent and guilty people.  They were all at some risk and we owe
ourselves and our children our best effort to protect the uninfected and
to find a cure for the sick.

|> I don't think that God designed the human anus to recieve a man's penis
|> so it is no wonder that problems occur when this type of behavior is common
|> place.  I also don't think God put monkeys, and gerbals in the
|> food chain for the purpose of human copulation! But who am I to
|> say?

You sure have not been appointed by anybody to police America's
bedrooms.  But you sure are spreading misinformation and hate.  That
stuff about monkeys and gerbals (sic.) is garbage of the worst kind.  It
is an attempt to make a group look bad in the eyes of the so-called
mainstream.  It is one of the divisive tactics we see conservative
Republicans use to divide us into antagonistic camps.  It does not
have any relationship with reality.  And it is not working this year!

|> I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars spent on programs to stop the
|> spread of AIDS, when there are numerous other diseases, like cancer,
|> that are NOT preventable! As for finding a cure, it is necessary because
|> of the diseases infiltration into the hetero-sexual community, and thus
|> the innocent victims. 

I sure want my tax dollars spent on program to stop the spread of HIV
infection and to find a cure for AIDS.  I want my tax dollars spent on finding
a cure for cancer, breast cancer (now neglected because it is a woman's
desease), lung cancer (although it could in many cases have been prevented
by not smoking), MS, and so many other deseases.  The funds needed to
work on one desease do not have to be taken from another.  They can be
taken from the enourmous waste we now have in an inefficient health
care system (See last issue of Consumer Reports).  They sure can be taken
from the bloated defense budget. I would much rather see my money go 
into medical research and treatment, into education to prevent deseases,
to protect us all, including Mr. Noyes, than on weapons that we don't 
need and whose sole purpose is killing people.

    Rene J. Valdes                   rjv@a2.cim.cdc.com