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From: aglgrad@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (A Garret Lisi)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: night session
Date: 28 Jul 1992 06:25:15 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdphu1.ucsd.edu

Eight thirty p.m., the longboards have headed for home.  The 
esci-lids have had their fill of the shore break.  It's just 
me, some scattered macrocystis pyrifera, and four foot sets.  
Blackness.  The horizon grows higher.  Spin.  Paddle.  Feel 
the wave without seeing it.  Free fall into the inky black 
pit.  Howl.  Skegs dig into the face.  Bottom turn.  Drive.  
The world ahead explodes into sudden white.  Carve for the 
top.  Launched.  Sky.  Gravity has it's say.  Paddle out for 
the next one, it's not time to go just yet.  Wind-an-sea, 
south swell, high tide, 70F water.  Why haven't I lived here 
all my life?

After reading alt.surf for a few months now, I thought it would 
be best to introduce myself.  I'm stoked to find other surfers 
who know where the "on" switch is on a computer.

A question:   How does surf in Western Oz compare with 
California?  Any first hand info?

Shaka,
-Garrett 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: alx@altair.csustan.edu (Alex Lee)
Subject: Surfing with dings, ok??
Originator: alx@ceti.csustan.edu
Organization: California State University, Stanislaus
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:57:25 GMT


	I've been surfing on this used board, which is very light, it's a TR,
Tim Ryan.  Anyway it has a large ding on the tip and rear, is it ok.

I also noticed that the inside of the board is that foam material,
is this a good type?  
-- 
Thanks.			            L    L    L    L
8-()-8			       	  L   L  L      L 
	       		       	 L     L L____L    L
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW)
Subject: Re: The gnarliest barrell I've ever had + More....(read on)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 08:42:14 GMT


Jim wrote :  

>>when you wipe out on another wave and remember how shallow it is. There
>>hasn't been many good waves out there this year since there haven't been
>>many direct westerlies or very light winds unfortunately (or fortunately
>>depending on how you look at it). 

Nigel : 

>I'm afraid that's where you're wrong man...there's been quite a few westerlies 
>(not the person kind either).That have struck in from inland high pressure's
>Also plenty of early morning calmness/tranquility to feel.

>Peace man..... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....I'm beginning to sound like
>Professor Bear (Ludwig).

Your'e right man I just can't get out of bed early enough in the morning. 
I still reckon that there have been far fewer days than last year that the
wind has been true westerly ALL day- however I have been surfing less so I
can't say that for certain !

>What did the bannana say to the vibrator ?
>What are you shaking for, s/he's going to eat me.
>What did one petifile say to the other petifile ?
>Swap you two fives for a ten.

P.S. How about 2 fives and a ten Nig ?
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hangfore@spf.trw.com (John Stevenson)
Subject: OZ-USA net surfari, Part II So. Cal.
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:02:55 GMT

Well-

Bob "nose" Kieffer and I caught up with Clark Quinn here in the south bay  
on Tuesday. After reintroducing Clark to the subtleties of freeway driving  
in LA (score: Clark caught one "the finger" and two heated discussions in  
10 miles!), we headed up to Malibu for the south swell which was exactly  
predicted by John Airey. (thanks John, sorry to see it wasn't as good up  
North).
Malibu was a solid three foot, perhaps four, and miracle of miracles, when  
we got there, there was almost no one out at first point. I've never seen  
it so empty, even with half foot waves. I took the boys out to the perfect  
first point take-off and watched them repeatedly SNAKE me on great waves.  
Some thanks. Anyway, by the time we got out, three hours later, there were  
40-50 guys surfing first point, a standard crowd. But we smoked it before  
they got there. Of course, "nose" was claiming it was bigger yesterday.
I didn't see a major difference in Aussie vs. American surfing styles, but  
perhaps that is because Clark is really an American, though he is picking  
up a strange speech impediment. 
Thanks for the fun, Clark.
Anybody else game?

John Stevenson
hangfore@spf.trw.com
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Subject: OZ-USA net surfari, Parts I & II (& III & IV) 
Reply-To: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:04:13 GMT

Mucho thanks to surf hosts, John Airey, John Stephenson, & Bob Kieffer.
It was a great chance to meet the people behind the posts!

My brief summary:

Hooked up with John Airey who kindly drove me over the "Heroin Highway"
(so named because it's just about as dangerous) to Santa Cruz.  Despite
a noble effort, the only break was too pathetic, as John reported.  
However, it was a great tour of the SC surf spots so now I can associate 
spots with the pictures.  Several others had responded, and I thought
John's post would bring them along too, but I only met one other fellow
who apparently is only a "lurker".  I wonder how many other non-posting
readers we have?

Two days later I was in San Diego where a couple of my friends took me
down to Blacks (guaranteed to be something even when everywhere else is
flat, a channel in the continental shelf brings the undiluted swells
in).  While small, it was quite fun, and a marathon surf session left 
me totally exhausted, sunburned, and happy.  I borrowed my friend's
board so we were all dominating the south peak with "mini-mal's", also
known as eggs.

Two days after that, John Stephenson and Bob Kieffer introduced me to
Malibu (strange that in years of surfing LA I never rode there).  As
reported, it was great fun with not much crowds (to begin with).
Another marathon session with the long rides Malibu's famous for.  It
was fun also to see some very hot longboard riders.   Even worth
hassling the !@#$%^ LA traffic for (though not every day :-).   Having
grown up there, now you know one reason I'm living here!

The next day, I went with my brother (just returned from a surf trip
to Costa Rica) to Redondo and caught some more fun shore break.  

All in all, a great trip (well, the conference wasn't so hot, but the
business meeting at UCLA went really well).  I come back with sunburn,
exhausted arms, and a smile on my face.  Thanks again, all.  So when're
you coming down this way?

BTW, were there any further posts about the Oz Net Surf?  Seems if there
were, they've expired.  Sigh.  Any copies floating around?  -- Clark

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 _--_|\    Clark N. Quinn
/      \   School of Computer Science and Engineering	    +61-2-697-4034
\_.--._*   The University of New South Wales            Fax +61-2-313-7987
      v    PO Box 1                                  cnquinn@cs.unsw.oz.au
           Kensington, NSW
           AUSTRALIA 2033                                      

           "A California Yankee in the Land of Oz"
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: night session
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:07:43 GMT
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA

In article <152p8bINNavc@network.ucsd.edu> aglgrad@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (A  
Garret Lisi) writes:
> Eight thirty p.m., the longboards have headed for home.  The 
> esci-lids have had their fill of the shore break.  It's just 
> me, some scattered macrocystis pyrifera, and four foot sets.  
> Blackness.  The horizon grows higher.  Spin.  Paddle.  Feel 
> the wave without seeing it.  Free fall into the inky black 
> pit.  Howl.  Skegs dig into the face.  Bottom turn.  Drive.  
> The world ahead explodes into sudden white.  Carve for the 
> top.  Launched.  Sky.  Gravity has it's say.  Paddle out for 
> the next one, it's not time to go just yet.  Wind-an-sea, 
> south swell, high tide, 70F water.  Why haven't I lived here 
> all my life?
> 
> After reading alt.surf for a few months now, I thought it would 
> be best to introduce myself.  I'm stoked to find other surfers 
> who know where the "on" switch is on a computer.
> 
> A question:   How does surf in Western Oz compare with 
> California?  Any first hand info?
> 
> Shaka,
> -Garrett 

All right, Garrett!  About time someone gave Nigel a little competition  
for his poetry!

Talk to Clark Quinn re: Oz .vs. US surf.

Robert
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report - San Diego/Orange County
Keywords: Trestles 7/28
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:08:15 GMT
Organization: CERFnet;  La Jolla, CA

Surf Report for Tuesday, 7/28.

Surf gods have been good to us in North County for the last week
or so. Swell out of the south, daily onshores have been light due
to el-Nino costal cloud. Water temp > 70. It's warm.

Yesterday I drove up the coast to Trestles in the mistaken hope
that it migh not be too crowded (mid week, mid morning). NO SUCH
LUCK. It has been a long time since I have seen much a bunch
of agro hassle in the water. Surf was great. 4-5ft and reeling.
But the parking lot was completely full, as were the other various
road parking places.

Everyone was hassling so much that a lot of guys were getting pushed
into too late take offs, then getting axed. Meanwhile, at least 3 guys
dropped in on you if you did get in first. Standard trestles equipment
seems to be a 6'8 really narrow board, the guys with these things
were getting most of the waves. Add a sprinkling of agro kids with
'tats from LA and a bunch of people who wern't up to the wave and
you had a very dangerous scene. After 5 waves I left. I did get one
gnarly left with no drop-ins and a little barrel section however.

After driving home I surfed beacons (leucadia) with 5 guys on my peak
and no hassle, just a good vibe caused by the presence of a few
dolphins, nice warm water and no hassles. The lefts were crankin at
3-4ft, too.

Have fun,

Mike "A brit in yank-land"
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: If you can't beat 'em....
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:12:07 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia

In article <22779@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:

Stuff deleted...

>Sunday I bought a 7'10 noserider.
>What is the effect of the concave nose?

>-Brian

Good for hanging five, or ten or eleven :-)

Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.

PS, Finally some wave's down here at Bells, last 4 or five days have
been from head to triple overhead at all the local reef breaks.
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Another longboard incident (more mellow, :-))
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:21:41 GMT
Reply-To: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA


   Didn't surf satuday. (worked! ouch). Was so down that I got up
at 5 and surfed sunday. A road race in S.C. kept the crowd out until
9:30 or so. 

   There was another of these inconsistent southern hemisphere swells
and some northwest ground swell. Chest to head, nothing great, but
better than work.

   But I did get one good right. Sucked out a little in front of me,
probably a little over head high. Not barreling, but close.
So I make it through the not-quite-barrel. I had a lot of speed.

   And yes, a longboarder takes off on the shoulder, :-). I followed
the advice of clark "just knock 'em off" quinn and just knocked him off
by bumping him behind the knee. 

   The expression of surprise on his face as he went under was precious.
Amazingly, I didn't fall off also. His board surfed along with me for about
10 feet then his leash pulled it back through the wave. I couldn't really
be mad since I had already had the best part of the wave, and knocking him
off was fun. While paddling back he came over and apologized for dropping
in. I apologized for knocking him off. (I'm so considerate these days, :-) ).

   See ya in the water!
                
john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-550 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Systems Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: surf report S.C. 7/11
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:36:44 GMT

airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:

>  Suddenly a longboarder with duct tape all over his board,
>(you know the type) just kind of paddles in front of me,
>up the wave. I went off the lip and tried to stick my fins
>in his back, but missed. Of course he got washed back on
>top of me, and his 2000 lb board dinged my board. 

>  Lowlights were when I made it through a few sections only
>to encounter some longboarder shoulder hopper dropping in
>on me. Usually since I had a lot of speed, I could just yell
>and spray water all over them and go right by, but occasionally
>I had to turn off. This happened, and the guy says, "gee, where'd
>you come from?". Sheesh. I told him to fuck himself.


It's great to see a fellow surfer with such a mellow attitude...


>                
>john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
>                   M/S 7U-550 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Systems Division
>                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039  
-- 
What did the bannana say to the vibrator ?
What are you shaking for, s/he's going to eat me.
What did one petifile say to the other petifile ?
Swap you two fives for a ten.
From: hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Weather Reports
Keywords: FTP
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:38:41 GMT
Followup-To: hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, EDSG

For continental US weather maps in gif format:
ftp 128.174.5.98
cd wx

The maps are updated every hour, so I've heard.  The files
are time stamped Greenwich mean time (which I've heard is 
seven hours difference from US PST).

brian


-- 
*** Brian Hayes hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com (310) 616-5129 ***
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surfing Books
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

A while back, someone was asking about surf books.  The response mentioned
Nat Young's "Surfing Fundamentals" and "Surfing in Australia", and
"Essential Surfing" by somebody else. There is an ad in the Oct SURFER
for assorted books/maps/posters/videos and these books are available
there.

WRITE TO:
Bank Wright
P.O.Box 126
Redondo Beach, CA 90277

Free catalog upon written request



See ya in the line up,

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Subject: Re: night session
Reply-To: cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Clark Quinn)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:40:05 GMT

In article <2A7570D0.52E8@deneva.sdd.trw.com> kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer) writes:
>In article <152p8bINNavc@network.ucsd.edu> aglgrad@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (A  
>Garret Lisi) writes:
   
>> A question:   How does surf in Western Oz compare with 
>> California?  Any first hand info?
 
>Talk to Clark Quinn re: Oz .vs. US surf.
 
Except that I haven't been over to Western Oz yet.  You fellow Yanks
want to fund a fact-finding mission?  I'll gladly fly over and check
it out for you :-).  

I'm actually having trouble making comparisons (it's been several years
since I've surfed CA regularly, and then I was spoiled, living above
Blacks).  Eastern Oz seems fairly similar, overall, to So. Cal (my main
area of comparison), but probably more consistent and marginally
juicier.  Of course, I've only surfed Sydney and as far south as Green
Island (yowza!).  

Now, for a real comparison you ought to fly me back and forth several
times.  Just to make sure.  Yes, and then to some other places, er, for
context, yeah, that's it.  Like Hawaii, Bali, this Manduka place.  Can't
forget Durban.  Oh, yeah, Cornwall, Sri Lanka,.....-- Clark

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

 _--_|\    Clark N. Quinn
/      \   School of Computer Science and Engineering	    +61-2-697-4034
\_.--._*   The University of New South Wales            Fax +61-2-313-7987
      v    PO Box 1                                  cnquinn@cs.unsw.oz.au
           Kensington, NSW
           AUSTRALIA 2033                                      

           "A California Yankee in the Land of Oz"
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff)
Subject: Weather Maps
Organization: Harris Controls and Compositions
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:35:59 GMT


A while ago, someone posted some very useful information on getting weather maps
in GIF format from FTP sites.  Well, the information is all absolutely correct and
it works wonderfully, 

-BUT-

all the two listed sites have (vmd.cso.uiuc.edu and unidata.ucar.edu) are maps of
the continental U.S.  They show hardly any offshore activity.  One of the GIFS
does show a satellite view of the cloud cover, which would be good for picking
up storm systems, but it's centered off the coast of California.  I need the
Atlantic. 

Does anyone know of any ftp sites that might have gif files that would be more
useful for the development of my fledling swell forcasting abilities for the 
Atlantic?  

Thanks

JoeHoff
From: hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Weather Maps
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:21:37 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, EDSG

In article <1992Jul24.123559.6353@ccd.harris.com> jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff) writes:
>
>A while ago, someone posted some very useful information on getting weather maps
>in GIF format from FTP sites.  Well, the information is all absolutely correct and
>it works wonderfully, 

You are welcome :^)!

>-BUT-
>
>all the two listed sites have (vmd.cso.uiuc.edu and unidata.ucar.edu) are maps of
>the continental U.S.  They show hardly any offshore activity.  One of the GIFS

OOPS.  Didn't I write that there are limitations?

>does show a satellite view of the cloud cover, which would be good for picking
>up storm systems, but it's centered off the coast of California.  I need the
>Atlantic. 
>
>Does anyone know of any ftp sites that might have gif files that would be more
>useful for the development of my fledling swell forcasting abilities for the 
>Atlantic?  
>
>JoeHoff

Thank goodness for USENET!  A quick search for weather in my .newsrc
file turned up nothing :( but, "meterology" was found!  I'll start
subscribing to it...a FAQ or a question or two should turn up some
answers (Actually, JoeHoff, why don't you ask the questions, since 
you know what you want).

Brian

BTW, I though the surf sucked in Manhattan Beach yesterday...but, 
what do I know?
.


-- 
*** Brian Hayes hayes@hac2arpa.hac.com (310) 616-5129 ***
From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: New Blood
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:43:51 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1992Jul20.110140.24493@aber.ac.uk> spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston) writes:
>if you are a beginner. The balance is fine and the shaper gets lots of 
>practice, because at 220 pounds per board he is still the cheapest 
>that I ever heard of by a large margin.


Yikes, here in Santa Cruz you can a get a brand new board for $199. That's less
than half. It must be almost worth the airfare to fly over here and buy a nice
custom board with custom airbrush for around $350.


Jim Munro>
From: cclrt@bristol.ac.uk (Luke Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: New Blood
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:49:57 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

The following message received from Paul Brant (who put up the original
request for information).

>Sorry to mail you but its not the easiest of things to get to isis in 
>the states from sunny southend-on-sea for NEWS postings.
>Unfortunatley I shall be going to cornwall in August. I am just over
>6FT tall and weigh about 15 stone( Big frammed chap). I should add
>that I will probably be also be going down there again in the winter
>so any board I get should suffice for both occasions.
>
>Thanks for your advice..
>
>Paul

Anybody got any advice?

I find it a little difficult to comment as I'm 5'9" tall and weigh about
150lb.

Luke.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg)
Subject: Re: The way it should be
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:29:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.231934.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> wrchurch@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>                                                                               
Lotsa BS deleted....
>                                                                               t      
>   Stephen Church                                                                              ,   .  aout 5  o 
>   Grand Bend                                                                           
>   lake Huron                                                                             a I hter
>   Canada                                                                             
>                                                                                 day  naturaly  f;    as system to -- 
>
>Prof. W.R. Church Dept. of Geology, U.W.O., London, Ontario. N6A 5B7
>Tel: (Office) 519 661-3192  (Home) 519 432-8750
>Email: WRCHURCH@UWOVAX.UWO.CA

There's surf in Lake Huron? 3-5 feet?

Hap
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hangfore@spf.trw.com (John Stevenson)
Subject: Galveston anyone?
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:06:20 GMT

To all Texas surfers-

Am seeking information about surfing south of Houston, which I guess is  
Galveston. Where to go, not go, earky morning or evening, surf report  
phone numbers and potential board rentals or borrowing.

I occansionaly go to Houston for business, like yesterday, and would love  
to see and do some Gulf of Mexico surfing!

advaTHANKSnce

John Stevenson
hangfore@spf.trw.com
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: All my friends are getting married.... :-)
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:37:15 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Subject: big event

The below is a note that Theresa Breckon sent me....
Maybe she didn't want it posted to the net , but I thought it
was very news-worthy....so if I get into trouble from the old chook....
I mean if it's a problem then "sorry"....

********************************************************************

Well now it's official. The "F" word (fiancee).

Mark and I had just finished surfing yesterday at San-Onofre, when he
came up and said let's go for a swim. "I said NO-way. I'm tired, I've
been surfing all day... etc... etc." He basically had to drag
me into the water again. We were playing around, body-surfing a 
little, when he came up and put his arms around me. In between
waves (yelling "duck"), he asked me to marry him. After I dove
under a couple more waves, I said yes. He pulled a ring out of
his shorts... and slipped it on my finger.

Pretty cool huh. The best part (well almost), was he had a present
for me at home. A Wyland sculpture of a whale and it's calf over
a piece of coral. It's bueatiful.

Anyway, just had to e-tell someone. Have a good one.


*********************************************************************


Congratulations Theresa, you have my official blessing,but it will cost
you $2,000 for my plane ticket to come to the Wedding.
Gees,nothing is sacred in a Nigel post not even matrimony.... :-)

-- 
What did the bannana say to the vibrator ?
What are you shaking for, s/he's going to eat me.
What did one petifile say to the other petifile ?
Swap you two fives for a ten.