HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: good vodka in finland, but bad karma
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:54:00 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
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mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) writes:
>This is getting funnier all the time. Such dogma. The fact is that there
>is some evidence towards a genetic component to alcoholism is interesting
>but certainly does not constitute proof of any kind.

Just to underscore this point...  its entirely possible that it indicates
that people inheret personality tendencies and environments, and not
just biochemistry (or that personality tendencies are a function of
biochemistry, and whatever quibbles you'd like to make...)

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From:  ()
Subject: You idiots (Was Bong water etc)
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:07:08 GMT

Bong water reeks, and will only attract attention. Always change your water
on a regular basis. I had two friends in college who would add a bit of
water on occasion, only because they never changed it and some evaporated.
We're talking syrup. Gross to smoke through, and a real ticking bomb. Spill
it and you're fucked for days. Keep it clean and presto... wipe up, smell
is gone by dinner time.

Seeds won't get you stoned, butthead. THC is found in the resin glands,
which are found only in buds and leaves. Very little in leaves. None in the
stems... absolutely none in the seeds. Seeds also taste bad and can ruin a
good j. But hey, if you really like smoking seeds, I'll send you all of my
old or lame ones. But you have to promise to smoke them all in one day, ok?
Live match heads are neat, too.
From: cdpst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Christophe D Piccolo)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mushrooms
Summary: it's a joke son...
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:38:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <725940898snx@scarla.UUCP> darinf@scarla.UUCP writes:
>Does anyone have any advise on countering the common side effects of 
>mushrooms.  i.e. nasea, stomach cramps, coming down.
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^  If i could 
solve that one, I'd never have or want to go to work again :-)
>
>| Darin D. Fisher     --   !uunet!uplher.upl.com!neb!scarla!darinf      |
>|                     --   hellgate.utah.edu!century.UUCP!darinf        |

Peace
Chris


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ghangha@wam.umd.edu (Kire Nosredneh)
Subject: Re: drug test/cocaine
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:25:16 GMT

In article <90T2wB1w165w@works.uucp> fr_piap@works.uucp (frater piap) writes:
>I am doing a paper and was wondering if anyone can give me insight as to 
>how long after a person does coke does would a drug test cum up negative?
>Also does adding salt to urine prior to a dt really help results come up 
>negative??  I have also heard about the use of a herb called red clover 
>to aid in cleaning the blood. .  Any liberating information appreciated.. 

As far as I know, cocaine can take up to 5 days to pass through your system.
Regarding the salt; I'm not positive about that trick, but you could always
tape a clean sample to your dick -- the person watching the test is clueless.
About red clover -- I'm not familiar with that herb, but I know that Golden 
Seal cleans your blood system of all chemicals.  I would either get fresh
golden root or golden root drops because several people have commented that 
Golden Seal strips your intestines as it cleanses your system!

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: farif@halcyon.com (David John Kunz)
Subject: Re: SHROOMS:  agar medium
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:15:04 GMT

In article <1ifplnINN9bo@menudo.uh.edu> st1o5@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>Does anyone know what the consistency of the agar medium should be when
>trying to get a mycellium culture started (i.e. jello-like, runny, hard,
>whatever)?  Does it really matter very much?  Also, when using a malt/yeast
>base for the agar, what are the proper proportions to mix it in with water?
>I'm looking for a recipe along the lines of:
>1/8 cup yeast
>1/8 cup agar
>1 pt. water
>Thanks in advance for any help.

There's a book called _Growing Wild Mushrooms_ by Bob Harris, published
by the Homesteady Book Company 1989, that has several such recipes.
Seems like a good general guide on the subject too.  Also has
instructions on producing compost to fruit them on, instructions on
growing the mycelium on grain, and various other sorts of useful and
otherwise interesting info.

Here's one recipe from it though, for a potato-dextrose-yeast based agar
medium:

          potato water, 500ml
          dextrose (corn sugar), 10g
          nutritional yeast, 3g
          agar agar, 7.5g

along with the following note:  "Potato water is prepared by boiling a
large scrubbed, but not peeled, potato in water for one hour.  It is cut
into one inch slices prior to boiling and strained out leaving the
potato water."

This stolen entirely without permission from p.25 of the revised
edition.
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: God and alcohol
Date: 4 Jan 1993 08:49:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>Substituting God for alcohol or any other durg is indeed a
>swapping of dependencies. 
>But last I looked, God didn't eat your liver. 
>Drugs are not for all, and even those who use some, shouldn't
>use others. It all depends on the person, but at least "God"
>is free. Nobody sole their house to buy more "God" for their
>dependency. Pax
>                                        --Judex--
 
Last time I looked, you could get a bad supply of "God" and it 
could cause problems.
 
Like ruining your sex life.
 
Like making you hate people for no good reason.
 
Like making you sell your house to buy more "God".
 
Nope, "God" is made by the worst chemists on the face of the 
Earth!
 
-- 
Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
/\  ___/\  ___/\  _____________________________________________
  \/     \/     \/  bx461@cleveland.freenet.edu (Leo J. Mauler)
DISCLAIMER: Everything I say is false, including this sentence.
From: bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ketamine <Fwd from daniel>
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:12:53 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, Computer Science Department

In article <1993Jan7.013827.4782@midway.uchicago.edu> bagg@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>Ketamine, which is a noncompetitive NMDA (N-methyl-D-aspartate)
>antagonist, has been studied a lot recently because it, like MK-801
>and other NMDA antagonists, protects against glutamate-induced neurotoxicity.
>This type of neurotoxicity is probably important in ischemia, and
>has been hypothesized to play a role in phenethylamine-induced
>axonal degeneration as well.  

Of course, dextromethorphan (actually it may be dextrorphan) is also an
NMDA antagonist (I think it's also noncompetative), as is PCP.  There's
something else though; PCP stimulates sigma-opiate receptors and I think
Ketamine may as well; I don't know about dextro[metho]rphan or MK801.
Some of the effects of PCP/ketamine may be due to sigma-opioid agonist
activity.

And yes, there are cases of psychosis from long-term use of dextromethorphan
recreationally (although nowhere near as much as with PCP).

>conference which argued that MK-801 induced neurotoxicity on its own.  
>However, I'd be surprised if the poster wasn't confused here.

I've never seen anything indicating that MK801 (or ketamine for that matter)
is neurotoxic.  However, in [SO: Brain-Res-Mol-Brain-Res. 1992 Aug 14(4):
363-8] it was reported that chronic use of NMDA antagonists causes 
synthesis of D2 receptors (in rat striatum).  I can't help but wonder if
acute use of PCP or ketamine might not affect dopaminergic systems.

>   --M@


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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: dumbshits flailing like mucus drool...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 07:46:43 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
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cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Malevolessence) writes:
>> 	Alcohol is a depressant.  It triggers behavior patterns that can lead
>> to negativity and sometimes even violence.  It severely impairs rection and
>> rationality, and inhibits functional communication in large doses.

Alcohol is a CNS depressant.

It tends to make me happy and stupid.

I never experience "negativity" or get violent on alcohol.

I also just turned 21 on 12/25/92 =)

and my stomach can still feel that brandy from last night...

but I still can't remember how or when I got home...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:27:53 GMT

phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.162645.1703@mtu.edu> vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER) writes:

>
>Getting your opinions from Rush Limbaugh?

  No, my opinions are all my own.  Some people do not need others to tell them
  what their opinions are.
>
>My understanding is that among scientists who study the atmosphere, ozone
>depletion and the greenhouse effect are fairly well accepted.  There is
>definitely less ozone, more ozone destroying chemicals and more carbon
>dioxide and other "greenhouse" gasses in the atmosphere due to human
>intervention than there would be without human intervention -- that is an
>absolute *fact*, not a theory.

  Again untrue.  Scientists who study the atmosphere are basing these theories
  upon information they've gathered for a relatively short period of time with 
  regards to the age of the earth`s atmosphere and climate.  Global warming, ozone
  depletion and the greenhouse effect have not been studied long enough for anyone
  to know whether man has caused these conditions, exacerbated them, or whether they
  are just a part of the cyclical nature of the earth. Indeed these theories have only
  become truth in the bandwagon environmental (this should not insult any of the 
  true environmentalists) movement and the political circles which want their vote. 
 
  Although it seems an easy argument to make, their may not even be more of these
  greenhouse gasses than now than without man.  We have not been studying, hell we    
  haven`t even been on this planet long enough to know the capacity of the earth with
  regards to carbon dioxide and these other "greenhouse gasses".  All of these gasses   
  are naturally occuring even without automobiles and cowfarts.  Have we yet been able
  to determine what amount of these gasses are needed for the earth to reach 
  equilibrium?  How do we know that there is not too much ozone, and that the hole over
  Antarctica is not actually necessary?  How do we know that the earth would not 
  produce and collect these gasses even if man didn`t exist?  These are all questions
  that will take an enormous amount of time to collect data and research before they
  can be answered, if they can be at all.                       
>
-- 
Steve Vetter     DISCLAIMER-  The opinions expressed here are not those of
vetter@mtu.edu                my employer,  because I don`t have one yet.  If  
                              you wish for these opinions to be your company's,
Damn it's Cold!!!             or not, send e-mail to :  vetter@mtu.edu 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:39:41 GMT

In article <jah.726793170@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>
>   This has been an interesting thread, but I really don't see the point in
>bringing drugs to school. If you can't even wait till you get home, you
>obviously have a problem.
>--
>Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
     You may have forgotten that maybe the student wasn't bringing drugs into
school to USE them in the first place.... Maybe he was or is a "salesman"???
Get the drift?....   =-)  Just my opinion....


Mike Maryo    mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: o_my_god.com still around?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 05:29:43 GMT

I remember hearing about this cool program a long time ago but since I
only had and MDA monochrome setup I ignored it. An archie search recently
turned up nothing. Have I got the name wrong or is it just outmoded. If so
are there any other programs in this genre?


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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: God and alcohol
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:18:18 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1993Jan2.201947.26772@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@eel.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>Drugs are not for all, and even those who use some, shouldn't use others.
>It all depends on the person, but at least "God" is free. Nobody sole
>their house to buy more "God" for their dependency.

Parents: "I'm sorry, Milo, but we sent your college fund in to Reverend Jim."

Rev. Jim (on TV): "You must have *faith* that God will take care of you. 
    Everything will work out.  Send me that money in your checking account!
    Sell that second car!  Re-finance your house!  Don't you owe it to God?

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: CBS 48 hours on LSD ;) BLUE STAR TATTOO!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 08:38:50 GMT

In <1idjj6INNf3f@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.001042.13022@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>>So do you have an e-mail address for Kathleen O'Donnell?  
>>She ought to look at the alt.folklore.urban archive for the
>>last five years if she is interested in the dangers of 
>>Blue Star Tattoos.
> Nope, I have had no further contact with her since her phone call to me.
>Genesis seemed to imply she was reading postings from the net through him.
>What's done is done.  We'll see on Wednesday I guess.

SO maybe we should mail genesis at the well and tell him to stop telling
journalists urban legends already?
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
               It is said that the Devil has all the best tunes.
                             This is broadly true.
                    But Heaven has the best choreographers.
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Date: 4 Jan 1993 08:45:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero)
>In article <1993Jan2.155241.10878@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>
>cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
>>In article <1i2mq2INN523@mirror.digex.com>
>>curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:
>>>
>>>Laughing gas has made trips to the dentist fun.
>>>
>>>Is it a controlled substance?
>>
>>    No.
>>-- 
>
>  In order to protect the Ozone layer, Reddi-Whip now uses
>Nitrous Oxide as the propellent in their whipped cream. 
 
"NOW USES"???
 
Hoo boy, have you been in the dark for some years now!
 
Nitrous oxide has been used in ALL whipped cream cans since 
the dawn of whipped cream cans!
 
Nitrous oxide is safe to the environment, true, but probably 
the main reason it was/is used is because it has no bad taste 
and is relatively non-toxic in small doses.  You have to suck 
the gas out of three or four cans before it has any 
appreciable effects.
 
As far as it being a "controlled substance", it is relatively 
easy to obtain in small doses (such as whipped cream cans or 
"whippets", which are small canisters used to compress 
homemade whipped cream).  Obtaining a dentist's size tank is 
pretty difficult for the unconnected human being.  Find 
yourself an open-minded dentist or an unscrupulous medical 
supply house.
 
People have mentioned that Nitrous Oxide is used by some 
people to make their cars go faster.  While this is true--and 
even some racing stores stock Nitrous Oxide Tanks--the quality 
of the Nitrous Oxide in the tanks is questionable.  They may 
add adulterants to prevent its being used as an intoxicant.  
They may not.  Its far too chancy to risk going beyond whipped 
cream or bribing a dentist.
 
If you imbibe it at a party, use a balloon which has been 
filled from a tank or collection of whipped cream cans.  Using 
it direct from the tank has the problem that the cold gas will 
freeze your lungs.  Using a mask could cause you to 
asphyxiate.  Using a balloon brings the gas to a warmer 
temperature, and if you pass out the balloon will shoot away 
from you and allow you to regain your oxygen again.
 
Besides, lots of happy talkative people waving brightly 
colored balloons is a great thing to have at any party, and 
greatly improves any hallucinations had while using Nitrous 
Oxide!
 
-- 
Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
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DISCLAIMER: Everything I say is false, including this sentence.
From: jmg20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  911  James Gouldsbury)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re:
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: jmg20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: alt


    Does anyone know the effects of coming of Morphine if you were
    an addict of the drug and can it be administered by injection.
            Any info' would be appreciated,
            Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:38:11 GMT

nimrod@nforest.pulp.nullnet.fi (Jukka Airaksinen) writes:
: 
:         Speaking about drug dogs. I wonder would it be safe to
:         send LSD, ecstacy or anything identical by mail. In other
:         words: do the drug dogs smell also this kind of stuff ?
: 
:         Does LSD or ecstacy even smell ?? So, how do *they*
:         prevent LSD or ecstacy mailing by post ?

LSD has no odor. It would be safe to mail it. The only way you would
be caught is if they received a tip-off that you were mailing it.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:02:38 GMT

dwight@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dwight Robert Stone) writes:

... delided ...

: cold burns.  If a person has a full tank of NO2 with a mask it is (as

You were doing pretty good, until you got to here. IT IS NOT NO2 - it never
was, and never will be. The oxide used is N2O.  NO2 (N2O4) will destroy
your lungs very quickly - it is no laughing matter.

Delided - a bunch of mentions of N2O, miscalled NO2.

: supply of nitrous over several years to induce this damage.  Nitrous is a
: psychological relaxant, and not a psyiological pain blocker; thus, when you

Wrong. It is an anesthetic - as such, it reduces the sensation of pain.

: are at the dentist on NO2, your nerves are transmitting all of the pain, but
: you just don't care :)  This makes NO2 excellent for mixing with sex, as
: there is no sensation or performance dampening as is associated with
: depressants such as alcohol.  It is a bit inconveinient when using balloons
: (due to its short duration), but a balloon hit just (15 -30 sec?) before orgasm

See above.

: by directly heating Ammonium Nitrate which directly devolves into the NO2 gas
: which is then collected over water (I believe) and then compressed.  Ammonium
: Nitrate is a main ingrediant in many fertilizers and should thus be easily

It can be, but I do not believe it is produced that way commercially. I can
look it up, if you wish. It is not a good way to get N2O, there are too many
impurities. You cannot produce the NO2 by heating AN, without also getting
NO and NO2. Neither of the impurities are very soluble in water, so collection
over water would not do any good.

... delided ...

: so that Nitrous could be pumped into the audience, thus relaxing the audience
: and making them more likely to laugh at the humor.  Perhaps this is the
: origin of the name "laughing gas" for nitrous oxide?

Nope. It is just one of the side effects of using the gas. That is where
the name came from. It was used in the 1800s by dentists.

: Just a little tretise on Nitrous.  Enjoy.

Well, not very accurate - but better than a lot I have seen. You could stand
to do a bit more research.

Bill
From: butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu (Bryan Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:25:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: cluster.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan8.004250.7099@nwnexus.WA.COM> farif@halcyon.com (David John Kunz) writes:
>
>As I recall, it was a DEA informant, who convinced the kid to sell one
>batch of LSD, for a total profit to the kid of about $200, after he
>had stopped doing LSD for some time (a few years if i recall correctly).
>And it wasn't 'til a year or so later, during which time the kid was
>living a productive, self-sufficient life (and neither taking nor
>selling LSD either) and even doing some charitable kind of
>something-or-other I think, that he was finally arrested.
>
>If the powers-that-be must make examples of people, I'm sad they choose
>someone like that kid. 
>

well, my recollection is similar, except that the kid said that the
guy he sent the stuff to was a friend.  then the reporter said
something like: 'little did he know that his friend was now a
DEA informant'.

anyway, as far as the whole show went, i was fairly pleased.

        -bryan
         butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu
      or butler_b@caltech.edu

"Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war
to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will
end war?"	Albert Hoffman
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Kid on 48 Hours
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:16:59 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1993Jan8.192600.22472@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rbb3w@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Bohn) writes:
>
>About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
>I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
>punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
>in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
>to get in the action.

Actually, anytime you use the US mail, the Feds can get in on it if they
want.  Come to think of it, they can get in on it anyway.  It was the FBI
that busted former DC mayor Marion Barry for smoking crack.  But they
usually stay out of it.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs