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From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: amiga.physik.unizh.ch
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:32:37 GMT

What's going on with amiga.physik.unizh.ch? It seems to be down for
couple of days.
From: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:52:26 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1992Dec30.173839.15356@koko.csustan.edu> rayz@koko.csustan.edu (Ray Zarling) writes:
>In article <vcQcs*7W1@light.fipnet.fi> terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrm) writes:
>>In article <alfredo.042p@ajahnv.lonestar.org>, Alfredo Jahn V writes:
>>
>>> Has anyone had problem with the "&" (background process)? I just installed
>>> it (I also just installed OS 2.1, incase that makes any difference...).
>>
>>  I have. SKsh just seemed to ignore that character. :-o
>
>Are you sure you are running version 2.1?  I use "&" all the time; with
>external commands, built-ins, aliases, pipes...  It works flawlessly.

Yes, I am running SKsh 2.1.  I am also running AmigaDos 2.1.  I upgraded SKsh from 2.0
to 2.1 and the "&" stopped working. I have read the docs and am aware that "&" is now
supposed to work with built-ins, aliases, pipes, as well as external commands.  At least
for me, non of them seem to work. It appears that some folks are haveing problems and others
are not.  BTW, are you (Ray) running AmigaDos 2.1 or 2.04?  I would guess that the SKsh
archive may be bad, except for the fact that the SKsh installation program checks each
file before and after installation...  Oh well, I sent email to Steve Koren and should be
hearing from hime soon.

>--Ray Zarling
>  rayz@csustan.edu

-- 
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1000 Coit Road, Plano TX 75075   (214) 519-3545
From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:14:11 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kxs5829@ultb

In article <vcQcs*7W1@light.fipnet.fi> terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrm) writes:
>In article <alfredo.042p@ajahnv.lonestar.org>, Alfredo Jahn V writes:
>
>> Has anyone had problem with the "&" (background process)? I just installed
>> it (I also just installed OS 2.1, incase that makes any difference...).
>
>  I have. SKsh just seemed to ignore that character. :-o

	Well, I have had no problems with the & to create a background
process.  My machine is an A3000T/030 running 2.04.  I did have a problem with
the doc2man program.  It crashes rather spectacularly on the reference.doc
file.  This is repeatable.  It runs fine on the extcmds.doc file.

	- Kyle

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
Subject: Re: Distant Suns 4.1 questions.
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:24:57 GMT

jmw@chem.ucsd.edu (John M. Wright) writes:

>Tonight I installed it on my hard drive, and I can't seem to get it to use
>my FPU (I have a 2620 board with 68881 math chip).

I installed DS 4.1 a few days ago (neat package!).  How can I tell if
it's using the FPU?  I assume it is, but is there a utility that shows
FPU usage?  I'm running on an A3000/25 with 68882.  The program is at times
slow, but calculating the coordinates of several thousand stars has to
take a little bit of effort.

-- 

	Mike Bandy
	bandy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
	Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:40:09 GMT

   You need a spreadsheet program. Unfortunately, the choices for Amiga
spreadsheets are poorer than those for CP/M (the OS of choice for 8-bit
machines of the 1980-83)
   You could look at Advantage. Or Maxiplan. Or Procalc. But don't expect
anything in the same league as Excel or Quattro. Also, don't expect to find
"packages" for the Amiga programs (like you can for the MSDOS ones) that
would set up your Home Finance stuff for you.


--

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<semi-YAHOO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                    Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca
             "Amiga made it - Commodore screwed it up"
From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:21:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Amiga outliner?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications

ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb) writes:

>I'm looking for an outline editor.  Something that will allow me to

I've seen a shareware program, 'Liner, that I believe does basically
what you want.  Never really used it, just took a quick look some
months ago.  I _think_ it's on a Fish, but if not, I could send it
along (though won't be checking my mail much for about a week).

Cheers, Tom
tomb@lsid.hp.com
From: MPT@cup.portal.com (Michal P Todorovic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 18:48:30 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Hello,
>
>   I have an Amiga 3000.  However, I am still doing my home budgeting on the
>paper:  For each money in/out I put down it's date, it's type of spending or
>incoming (such as school, insurance, home, etc.), the among.  I would like to
>use a program that'll do all of the above, show spending of each different
>category, show the total amount of money left, and be able to print them out.

You can use either a spreadsheet or a database to perform those operations,
plus you'll have a general purpose tool to use for other stuff later on.  If
you do go the spreadsheet/database option, you will have to spend some time
setting things up, but then you'll have templates that you can use over and
over again.

Which spreadsheet or database should you use?  I'm biased, I wrote ProCalc,
Advantage and parts of Gold Disk Office.  So if you asked me, I'd recommend
them :)

>   It'll also be nice if the program can do simple graphs.  An important thing
>to me is that it is workbench 2.0 compatible and maybe open it's own screen
>too.  Please suggest to me some programs that can do these.

Oh, if you want charts, then go with the spreadsheet.  Databases (that I
know of) aren't known for their charting abilities.

>Thanks, and happy new year.

Happy Holidays and New Year to you too!


---------------------

Michal Todorovic         | The Laws of Thermodynamics, Paraphrased
Terra Nova Development   |
                         | 1. You can not get anything without
MPT@cup.portal.com       |    working for it.
                         | 2. The best you can ever hope for through
"Justice is incidental   |    working is breaking even.
 to Law and Order"       | 3. You can only break even at absolute
      J Edgar Hoover     |    zero.
From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Can't add to KingFisher database
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 20:34:40 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>     My first attempt to add to the KingFisher (1.11) database has been
>unsuccessful.  I carefully re-edited the file containing the
>descriptions to disks 771-780 as instructed in the docs -- program name
>on a single line, description on a single line, blank line between
>disks.  I then appended this file to the end of the data file for disks
>0501 to 1100, ran KingFisher, and instructed it to Re-index.  It
>reported indexing the additional 10 disks, but after the re-index the
>program locked up, requiring a reboot.  After rebooting and running it
>again, it knew nothing about the additional ten disks -- didn't report
>them as present, and wouldn't search above disk 770.
>     I re-edited the database file to make sure there was just a single
>return character (and not an EOF) between the last entry in #770 and
>the first entry in #771, repeated the procedure, but still got the same
>result.
>     Is there someone who's successfully added to their KingFisher
>database who can give me a clue?

>Dave Voelker

Wow, I think you did too much!  I merely grabbed the text file
describing the contents of disks 771-780, named it "Fish.txt" and
put it in RAD, opened KingFisher, selected "Add Fish", pointed it
to the "Fish.txt" file in rad:, and sat back while it did all the
work.

Also, do you have the latest KingFisher, version 1.11, and did
you edit the config file like you were supposed to?

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.applications:9733 comp.sys.amiga.misc:19312
From: jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Middle Mouse button for TM2.0 under 2.04
Summary: How?
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:06:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Is there any way to use the middle mouse button with
ToolManager 2.0 under Workbench 2.04?  If not, are there
any other commodity type things that will let me program
the middle button?

Specifically, I'd like to use it to switch screens
(in the way that left amiga-m does)

thanks,

Jeremy
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd)
Subject: Who is the author of rdmicons?
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:31:56 GMT

I was wondering who the author of rdmicons was. If he reads this
post please email me. I have a few prgs I would like to have icons
made for that were not included in his previous icon collections.
THanks

-- 
loyd@seq.uncwil.edu

Amiga 2000 Tower               8megs 32bit Ram   
Supra 2400ZI+ Modem            Sony KV-1311CR Monitor
From: ad010@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Wilhelm Stiefelhagen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: FAX for the Amiga...
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:23:04 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

In <08.2b344338@ivgate> Larry.Clevenger@mtask.omahug.org (Larry Clevenger) writes:

>Hi Folks.

>Is there a FAX program out there in the nets that is FTPable?

>If so, is it fully workable?  Is it shareware?  Where is the site?

...

There is a Demo-Version, which works with one page and print a special
copyright notice on every page.
I think the name is AFax and you can get it on amiga.physik.unizh.ch, aminet
or wuarchive.

Hope that helps, Willi


-- 
Wilhelm Stiefelhagen               ad010@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Where are Fish lists? (was: Can't add to KingFisher database)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:52:34 GMT

Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling) writes:

>Wow, I think you did too much!  I merely grabbed the text file
>describing the contents of disks 771-780, named it "Fish.txt" and
>put it in RAD, opened KingFisher, selected "Add Fish", pointed it
>to the "Fish.txt" file in rad:, and sat back while it did all the
>work.

I missed the posting of disks 771-780... is it available somewhere?
-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: rigby@pyramid.unr.edu (Wayne Rigby)
Subject: Re:  recommend good Editor ??
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:27:28 GMT
X-Posted-From: pyramid.cs.unr.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1hl08fINNm43@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> divineg@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Glade Diviney) writes:
>In article <alien.01cz@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>>
>>Sounds good ... but does it know about the Amiga's GUI? I.e. does it support
>>Amiga-style menus, mouse commands, etc? I've had some unpleasant experiences
>>with software ported from Unix without conversion to an Amiga-like interface.
>>
>>Other than that, it sounds great!
>>
>
>  I don't know which port the original article referred to, but the GNUEmacs
>  V18.58, Amiga port 1.24 that I'm running DOES support mouse commands (left
>  button only, as far as I can tell).  I don't believe it supports Amiga
>  menus, so you'll be spending some time with the help screens.  On the whole,
>  it's kinda slow with a 68000.
>
>-=Glade Diviney
>  divineg@prism.cs.orst.edu

The Amiga version of Gnu Emacs does support pull down menus.  They are not
set up for you when you start, so you have to do it yourself.  It also
doesn't have an icon for WorkBench startup, but that's easily fixed with
IconX.  And, of course, a newer version has been released since I downloaded
it and got it running on my friend's 2000.  I had no problems with speed at
all on his 68000, but I usually run emacs via modem at 1200 baud...  It takes
maybe 30 seconds to load from the harddrive and then runs speedy enough for
me.

Wayne Rigby
rigby@cs.unr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:17:25 GMT

In article <bchiu.725232812@crash.cts.com> bchiu@crash.cts.com (Bill Chiu) writes:
>Hello,
>
>   I have an Amiga 3000.  However, I am still doing my home budgeting on the 
>paper:  For each money in/out I put down it's date, it's type of spending or 
>incoming (such as school, insurance, home, etc.), the among.  I would like to 
>use a program that'll do all of the above, show spending of each different
>category, show the total amount of money left, and be able to print them out.
>

Desktop Budget, Personal Finance Manager, Home Front, Money Mentor,
Phasar......
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Opus v4.0 delayed?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 09:48:31 EST
Keywords: DirectoryOpus Shipping
Summary: Has DO v4.0 been delayed again?
Distribution: na
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

        Hello all, I purchased DirOpus 4.0 at WOC Toronto on Dec 6/92.  I
was told by the rep. there that it would be shipping on Dec 11/92.  The
reason for the delay was that somebody had messed up their packaging (ie.
picture on the box) in a big way and it had to be re-done but then they
would be shipping right away.  I was told 7-10 days for shipping.  That
puts my date of reception at about Dec 22 or so.  Worst case (14 days) that
is Dec 24.  I haven't received it yet and of course, the date when
Christmas falls, yields a weekend immediately afterwards and I have to wait
until Dec 28.  I was told that if I didn't receive it by Christmas that I
should definitely call.  Has anyone else received their DirOpus 4.0?  Does
anyone know if it has been delayed again?  No need to call Texas from
Ontario just to be told something that someone might already know here. 
Thanks in advance, email or post, whatever you prefer.

--
 Craig Lemon VE3XCL (Advanced) - Kitchener, Ontario. +1 519 741 0297
 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | 1A Electrical Engineering
 TCP/IP: ve3xcl@ve3xcl.ampr.org [44.135.84.51]   |  University of Waterloo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: Gary_Coleman@mindlink.bc.ca (Gary Coleman)
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 03:10:56 GMT

> Jon Reid writes:
>
> Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter) writes:
>
> >   Personally, I can't fathom why anyone would use a computer to do Home
> >Finances
>
> A calculator suffices for balancing your checkbook, but have you tried
> keeping a ledger of your assets and liabilities,
>
> Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
>

I use ProCalc to do a monthly check and cash ledger, and to produce my
invoices.  I don't do a lot of invoices, but I do write a lot of cheques.
Makes it easy when I can give my accountant a month by month print out of my
accounts.  From this he can enter my data into AccPac once every quarter.
(G.S.T.  Gerrrr)


Gary Coleman, chief bucket operator
  G.Coleman Concrete
<=My work always gets harder=>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ToolManager & 4000
From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:43:16 +1300
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9

In article <C03512.14q@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>,
	markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
>In article <1hrdmdINNpkb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cc069@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel Sternklar) writes:
>|>
>|> Hello Does ToolManager work ok on the 4000?
>|> At times on bootup the toolmanager handler fails.
>|> This has happened on two different 4000
>|> -Dan
>
> I don't see any reason why this happen. I think the problem is WB3.0
> rather the A4000. But even then, i am surprised TM doesn't work on
> WB3.0....

ToolManager works flawlessly under 3.0..


--
 -------------------------------------------------------------
 Steven Biddle	     -	   Mail: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz
 Wellington, New Zealand.    OR: BIDDLE_S@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 -------------------------------------------------------------
From: rovero@attu.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Home budgeting program requested!
Date: 27 Dec 92 04:36:38 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA

You can also try the shareware program Pass the Buck$ --
used to be available from Amiga Users of the Heartland,
by Bob Dufford.

-- 
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Department of Oceanography, Code OC/Rv |      Bitnet 5346p@NAVPGS 
Naval Postgraduate School              |              
Monterey, CA  93943   (408) 646-2084   |
From: terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SKsh 2.1 (problems with "&")
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:39:27 GMT
Organization: Fipnet - Espoo, Finland
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <alfredo.042p@ajahnv.lonestar.org>, Alfredo Jahn V writes:

> Has anyone had problem with the "&" (background process)? I just installed
> it (I also just installed OS 2.1, incase that makes any difference...).

  I have. SKsh just seemed to ignore that character. :-o

--
Terje Bergstrvm
terje@light.fipnet.fi
From: marv@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Marv Gordon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: GVP PhonePak
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Just curious in general about this beast.  How stable is both the hardware and
software? 
 
I am going to propose that our company drop it's $200 a month answering
service if this board can do things like:
 
1. Take a call and turn around an dial our Tech Support after hours pager. 
Then allowing a Tech Support person to turn around and pick up the message.  I
would guess this would be an easy task.
 
2. Could it interface with our AT&T Merlin system and announce over our
loudspeaker? maybe via AREXX?
 
3. Would it be possible to interface with NCOMM or TERM via AREXX so we could
send messages via 3270 emulation?
 
Any comments would be appreciated.....


UUCP: {tcnet, crash, quest}!orbit!pnet51!marv
ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!marv@nosc.mil
INET: marv@pnet51.orb.mn.org
From: adapn@gandalf.cs.andrews.edu (Neil Ray Adap)
Subject: nimbus q font uploader
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:48:19 GMT

Does anybody out there know of a program to upload FC-II Fonts to a
Postscript printer?  I have FC-II and want to print my documents to the
school's Postscript laser printer but I think, I need to upload the
fonts first.

Thanx for the help.

please email to: adapn@andrews.edu
From: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: PageStream file requestors under 2.1
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:23:48 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

I just installed AmigaDos 2.1 (I was running 2.0). I was wondering, does
PageStream2.2H (or whatever the newest version is) use the AmigaDos file
requestors?  I hate the way they look!  Is there any way to tell PageStream
to format the infomation in the requestor differently? Is there a way to
use another file requestor? When I select "open a file", I get a requestor
filled with blue directory entries (drawers); for example:

  +--------------------------------+
  |  Labels    drawer 21-Dec-92 23:45:52 ...
  |  Envelopes drawer 21-Dec-92 23:45:52 ...
  |  Flyers    drawer 21-Dec-92 23:45:52 ...
  |  Junk      drawer 21-Dec-92 23:45:52 ...
  |  (etc)                         |
  +--------------------------------+
                                   ^
                                   | where requestor cuts off info...
 

Since the requestor window is smaller than the data displayed, it looks 
very confusing when it cuts off the date information. If I remember, it 
used to just display the directories and files (and not all the other junk, 
ie, "drawer", dates, etc.).

Any ideas on how to change this, or do I just have to learn to live with it?
Are there any PD or Shareware libraries that have better looking file 
requestors that PageStream will use? (this is also the case with Pageliner
and BME).  Thanks in advance.

-- 
Alfredo Jahn  INTERNET: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org  UUCP: uunet!digi!ajahn
DSC Communications, Corp.
1000 Coit Road, Plano TX 75075   (214) 519-3545
From: o.roehrig@cl-hh.comlink.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re:ProPage 3.0 help!!!
Date: 25 Dec 92 16:26:27 GMT
Reply-To: o.roehrig@cl-hh.comlink.de
Organization: Freies Telekommunikations-Zentrum Hamburg e.V.
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WFAUST%VENUS.ADSP.SUB.ORG@UUCP.ZER schrieb am 21.12.92 um 11:08
mit Betreff: Re:  ProPage 3.0 help!!!

|> Warped?  When it comes to color printing using PPage and WB
|> drivers, you'll quickly see that PPage is fine.  There are only
|> two things that should get improved:  offsets and speed.

No. Memory-handling is far from being perfect also. If I have 20 MB
of RAM available, why the hell does ProPage print 62 strips and
leaves 18 MB unused???

Ottmar Roehrig

Zerberus:  O.ROEHRIG@CL-HH.ZER | UUCP: ottmar@ajberl.adsp.sub.org
DE: O.ROEHRIG@CL-HH.COMLINK.DE |       or@mcshh.hanse.de

-- MPoint 2.0 Pro  (C)1992 M.Aberle