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From: s5ukdh@fnma.com (Kevin Huynh)
Subject: VietNamese New Year Radio and TV shows
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: sun330!fnma.COM!s5ukdh@uunet.uu.net
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:22:34 GMT

The radio show "can" be heard in Richmond, VA and Boston, MA ( we are working on
this !!!)

kha'nh
From: dasun!tranb@sunkist.west.sun.com ("Bao Tran (Tranb")
Subject: Va(n Nghe^. Cafe' 11/20/92 friday
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:56:21 GMT


.....Event count down.......4..3..2 days till FRIDAY.



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From sunkist!cheshire.media.mit.edu!owner-scv Fri Nov 13 07:47:10 1992
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Va(n Nghe^. Cafe' 11/20/92 friday
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&&&&&&&&&&  THO^NG CA'O:  &&&&&&&&&&
&&&&&&&&&&  ------------  &&&&&&&&&&

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Ba.n co`n nho+' nhu+~ng ly ca` phe^, nu+o+'c uo^'ng tha^n ti`nh
ma` ba.n -da~ co' di.p thu+o+?ng thu+'c trong -de^m va(n nghe^.
"Ti`nh Ca` Phe^"?

    Ha~y -de^'n vo+'i  Qua'n "Ti`nh Thu" -de^? ti`m la.i gia^y phu't tre^n.

    Qua'n va(n nghe^. do To^?ng Ho^.i Sinh Vie^n Nam Cali to^? chu+'c
    vo+'i su+. co^.ng ta'c cu?a mo^.t so^' -Da.i Ho.c Nam Cali,
    -da(.c bie^.t la` -Da.i Ho.c UC Irvine.

Ha~y -de^'n thu+o+?ng thu+'c nhu+~ng gio.ng ca tru+~ ti`nh
Die^.u Hoa`ng, Jennie Loan, Chung Tu+? Lu+u  va` nhie^`u gio.ng ca
sinh vie^n ngo.t nga`o nhu+ nhu+~ng gio`ng suo^'i ma't.
-De^'n -de^? chie^m ngu+o+~ng ca'c co^ sinh vie^n vo+'i bao ta` a'o
lo^.ng la^~y trong ma`n Fashion show


          Ba('t -da^`u lu'c 6g30  chie^`u thu+' sa'u 11/20/92

   -Di.a -die^?m:  -Da.i ho.c UC Irvine, Irvine, California
   --------------   Physical Sciences Lecture Hall

    Directions:    tu+` Bolsa, la^'y freeway 405 South
    -----------    Exit Culver Drive and turn Right on CULVER
                   Right on  CAMPUS
                   Left on  BERKELEY
                   Right on  CIRCLE VIEW to parking lot near
                   Physical Sciences Lecture Hall

    Gi'a ve' u?ng ho^. $5,  Sinh vie^n ho.c sinh $4


******** TO^?NG HO^.I SINH VIE^N VIE^.T NAM/NAM CALI KI'NH MO+`I  **********
                             (714) 893-3139


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: lethien@eskimo.enet.dec.com (NoLordShallStandBeforeMyself,IamDeicide)
Subject: Tho+ --- -Da` La.t Tra(ng Mo+`
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation. Hudson, Ma 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:18:17 GMT



	-Da^y phu't thie^ng lie^ng dda~ kho+?i dda^`u 
	Tro+`i mo+ trong ca?nh thu+.c huye^`n mo+
	Tra(ng sao dda('m dduo^i' trong su+o+ng nha.t
	Nhu+ ddo'n tu+` xa mo^.t y' tho+

	Ai ha~y la`m thinh cho+' no'i nhie^`u
	-De^? nghe du+o+'i dda'y nu+o+'c ho^` reo
	-De^? nghe to+ lie^~u run trong gio' 
	Va` dde^? xem tro+`i gia?i nghi~a ye^u

 	Ha`ng tho^ng la^'p loa'ng du+'ng trong im
	Ca`nh la' in nhu+ da~ la(.ng chim`
	Hu+ thu+.c la`m sao pha^n bie^.t ddu+o+.c
	So^ng Nga^n Ha` no^?i giu+~a ma`n dde^m

	Ca? tro+`i say nhuo^.m mo^.t ma`u tra(ng
	Va` ca? lo`ng to^i cha(?ng no'i ra(`ng
	Kho^ng mo^.t tie^'ng gi` nghe ddo^.ng cha.m
	Da^~u la` tie^'ng vo+~ cu?a sao ba(ng .

 				H.M.T
	


I_have_always_loved_three_things_and_never_understood:Art_Music_MyWoman

		Vo`ng tro+`i dda^'t do.c ngang, ngang do.c
		No+. tang bo^`ng: vay tra?, tra? vay
		Chi' la`m trai: Nam, Ba('c, Ddo^ng, Ta^y
		Cho phi? su+'c va^~y vu`ng trong bo^'n be^?
                                    -NCT 

   L a`m da(m chai Budweiser cho ddo+`i vui tre?
   E m Miller, tra'ch nhe.: anh dda~ say 

   P ho' ma(.c ddo+`i, Becks kia tha ho^` uo^'ng

   T hu+o+ng em nhie^`u, Molsen o+i co' bie^'t
   H o^`n tha^~n tho+` bo+?i Slitz men cay
   I m va('ng qua' Heineken, anh lie^n ho^`i tu bo? "Tuborg"
   E a^'p be^n mi`nh, na`ng Michelob me^'n ye^u
   N hu+ Bia uo^'ng hoa`i ma` va^~n kho^ng say ! 	

		Say su+a nghi~ cu~ng hu+ ddo+`i
		Hu+ tho+`i hu+ va^.y, say tho+`i cu+' say
		Tro+`i say tro+`i cu~ng ddo? gay
		-Da^'t say dda^'t cu~ng la(n quay ai cu+o+`i ?

					-Tan -D NKH-

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: mok@pa.dec.com
Subject: Re: [Human Rights for VN] Please show your support by email 
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: mok@topdog.pa.dec.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:21:16 GMT

I understand that there are two senators....that was my point.  But I honestly 
did not realize that Kerrey was also concerned about human rights in Vietnam.
Thanks for clarifying.

Charales
From: kevinle@eb4ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Kevin Le)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: TOP TEN BEST NEW NAMES FOR THE FORMER USSR
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:34:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kevinle@eb4ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Kevin Le)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb4ts1.ebay.sun.com




TOP TEN BEST NEW NAMES FOR THE FORMER USSR

 10.  BORIS:  Bolshevik Organized Republic of Independent States

  9.  COMMIES:  Confederation Of Muslim Monarchies & Independent
                       European States

  8.  RUBLES:  Russian Union of Bolshevik Led European States

  7.  REDS:  Russo-European Dominion of States

  6.  CAVIAR:  Confederation of Autonomous Violently Independent
                     Asian Republics

  5.  ACNE:  Association of Countries with No Economies

  4.  FEED US:  Farther Eastern European Dominion of United States

  3.  NIGHTMARE:  National Independent Governments Having Tribes
                           of Muslim, Asian, and Russian Extraction

  2.  SEWAGE:  States of Europe Without A Good Economy

And the Number One new name is...

  1.  NOTHING:  Nucleus Of Totally Helpless Independent National
                       Governments


	KL
From: dangt@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dang Thanh Ngan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Tho+: Mu+a
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:16:34 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Nov19.195232.25714@nntpserver.chevron.com> hmyha@usho98.hou281.chevron.com (M.T.Tran) writes:
>
>     Sao mu+a hoa`i dza^.y ha? o^ng Tro+i?
>     Co+' chi o^ng dde^? nu+o+'c ma('t ro+i
>     Co+' chi o^ng cu+' tu+o+ng tu+ ma~i?
>     Tho^i ddu+`ng kho'c nu+~a, ni'n ddi tho^i....
>
>-- 
>MyHanh Tran                          2811 Hayes Road, Room 3106E
>Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.     Houston, TX 77082-3032, U.S.A.
>Information Technology Dept.         (713) 596-3182
>User Support Division                hmyha@usho25.hou281.chevron.com

 
         Ngu*u Lang Chu*'c Nu*~ la`m mu*a ro*i
         Ga(.p nhau ru*ng ru*'c kho'c mo^.t tho*`i
         Mo^~i na(m va`i lu'c ga(.p nhau kho'c
         Tho^i ddi co^ a. .... dde^? mu*a o*i

         Thanh Nga^n
From: mdo@socrates.umd.edu ("Mike T. Do")
Subject: [NEWS] VIETNAM EMBARGO MAY BE RELAXED
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:16:32 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: bui@berlioz.nsc.com (Cuong Bui)
Subject: [THO] To^'ng Bie^.t Khu'c - Ly' To^'ng
Organization: National Semiconductor
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:55:05 GMT


\V
     To^'ng Bie^.t Khu'c
     
     Ta va^~n nghe vang mo^'i ha^.n Ta^`n
     Ba.c dda^`u lu~ sa'o vu+o+.t so^ng sang
     Bo'ng chie^`u cho^'n cu~, bo+` Di.ch Thu?y
     Nha^'t khu+' chinh nha^n ba^'t phu.c hoa`n
     
     Ta tha^'y mang mang ho^`n tra'ng si~
     Nga^?ng dda^`u do~i ma('t bo'ng chim xa
     Ma('t ai mo+` a?o hoa`ng ho^n ti'm
     Lo`ng ai vu+o+ng ddo.ng kho'i que^ nha`
     
     Tay ai o^m tro.n sa^`u thie^n co^?
     Gia~ ti`nh ly quo^'c kie^'p tha hu+o+ng
     Quay nhi`n thie^n ly' nga`n da^u tha(?m
     Chie^'n ba`o ye^n ngu+.a khu'c ly ca
     
     Ta bie^'t ngu+o+`i ddi ho^`n o+? la.i
     Vo+'i vu+o+`n hoa nho?, xo'm la`ng xu+a
     Vo+'i ca^y du+o+ng lie^~u su+o+ng chie^`u nha.t
     Tha^'p thoa'ng xie^m ho^`ng che da'ng hoa
     
     Ta bie^'t ngu+o+`i ddi sa^`u o+? la.i
     Tre^n la`n mi nho? le^. chu+a phai
     Tre^n ddo^i tay ngo.c na^ng ly ngo.c
     Ky? nha^n ho^`i chinh chie^'n co^? lai
     
     Ta bie^'t ngu+o+`i ddi kho^ng u+o+'c he.n
     Ti`nh rie^ng Tung Ra?i kha('p non so^ng  (*)
     Chie^'n tru+o+`ng tha^n co' quay ve^` dda^'t
     Thi` ma?nh ho^`n thie^ng ho'a lu+?a ho^`ng
     

Tri'ch O' DDen, Ly' To^'ng
(*) Nguye^n ba?n Tung Ra?i kho^ng vie^'t hoa
c.b.

\L
From: maxc1065@ucselx.sdsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: testing
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:04:22 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

This is a test only..please ignore...!!
From: maxc0408@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Forever Young!!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: testing....
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:54:37 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

testing ... testing...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: gt4593c@prism.gatech.edu (Union of VSA of GEORGIA)
Subject: Re: VNkey and VISCII does not work with Win Publisher 1.0
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: gt4593c@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:05:27 GMT

Hello anh Mai va` ca'c ba.n,
Chu'ng to^i cu~ng ddang testing VISCII tre^n mo^.t so^' windows softwares
dde^? chua^?n bi. cho vie^.c a^'n ba?n ba'o Xua^n Quy' Da^.u. Cu~ng nhu+
anh dda~ tha^'y, chu'ng to^i ga(.p tro+? nga.i trong vie^.c du`ng WinVNKey
vo+'i Ventura 4.0 vi` nhu+~ng chu+~ "o^', o(" se~ xua^'t hie^.n tre^n
ma`n a?nh vo+'i chu+~ "o to^ dda^.m trong lo`ng".

Vo+'i WinWord & WP51 for windows thi` WINVnKey ra^'t tuye^.t vo+`i .
Vo+'i Micrografx thi` anh pha?i set Printer Preview dde^? tha^'y da^'u
hie^.n le^n ngay tre^n chu+~ Vie^.t

Chu'ng to^i kho^ng co' Win Publisher ne^n chu+a thu+? ddu+o+.c. Hie^.n 
ta.i chu'ng to^i muo^'n ti`m mo^.t desktop publishing dde^? layout va`
theo lo+`i Hu`ng Ho^` thi` ca'c ba.VSA o+? USC du`ng PageMaker.

CorelDraw thi` xua^'t hie^.n da^'u ra^'t ro~ ra`ng tre^n ma`n a?nh nhu+ng
kho^ng the^/ in ra ddu+o+.c. Cha(?ng bie^'t ca'c ba.n co' y' kie^'n gi`
giu'p chu'ng to^i ve^` chuye^.n na`y kho^ng .
Xin cha^n tha`nh ca?m o+n.

Tho^'ng Q. Nguye^~n

In article <1992Nov13.002845.12493@cc.uow.edu.au> you write:
>Hello there
>   I have got WinVnKey under Windows. It works OK with many things such
>as WinWord, CorelDraw ... but not Win Publisher. Is there any tip? It
>seems that WinPublisher has it own way of managing the inoout buffer and
>displaying. It just hang hopelessly.
>   I also have problems with Ventura publisher. It simply does not
>display characters such as o+, o^, o(, etc ...
>   
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Van Dao MAI
>Wollongong Australia


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: TIEN@nmdhst.cc.nih.gov
Subject: Re: [Joke] #2
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: TIEN@nmdhst.cc.nih.gov
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:13:38 GMT

> From: Tri.Nguyen@media.mit.edu
> Subject: Re: [Joke] #2
> Date: 17 Nov 92 19:56:33 GMT
> 
>     Hi Kevin,
> 
>      I think your joke#2 is not appropriate in this news group.  Please be
> more considerate the next time you post your joke.  Beside, I think most 
> people can just read rec.humor themselves.  You don't have to copy those
> jokes over to soc.culture.vietnamese again.  Regards.
> 
> Tri Nguyen.
> 

Hi Tri, Kevin, and everyone,

I, in the other hand, would like to thank Kevin for having been posting
many good jokes on SCV.  I do not have access to rec.humor and thus have
been enjoying the jokes sent by Kevin.  Many of them are good, and some
of them are bad.  Since the standards of good and bad vary from person
to person, from time to time, I think we will have to let the person
decide for him/herself (unless he/she got tons of flame, then it's clear
it's bad :)).  For me, I just read and remember the good ones, and let
the bad/offensive ones forgotten.  

That's a solution, no?  (If yes, then Kevin, more good jokes, eh?)

Yours,

Tie^'n @ N.I.H.
From: pham@prl.philips.nl (Bang Pham 44006)
Subject: Request
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: pham@prl.philips.nl
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:13:43 GMT

Ti`m ba.n Pha.m cha^u Ha?i, tru+o+c' ho.c o+? Chu va(n An (72-79) Sa`i go`n.
Ra ddi 1979.
Lie^n la.c ve^` : pham@prl.philips.nl
From: s905075@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Minh Cao Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Garbage "test" msg on SCV
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:14:10 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

nguyen@ttd.teradyne.com writes:

>What's with all the garbage on SCV from DING LE of Calstate?  Please be
>considerate of others and let's not take up the bandwidth with repeated
>"tests" messages.  I understand that newcomers need practices and allows
>to make mistakes.  But considerations of others should also be given.

>BTW, this is no flame throwing, just a courteous request.

>Cheers
>mn

   Sorry man...It is only a test and U complain...!!! Where are all your
   sense of supports...?  Let me ask U something..When U buy a new car
   "Don't U ever test it b4 U buy it?"....Of course U do..So we need to
   test to see that if we are able to... Then we will Post our "shit" on..!

   I beg your pardon... But that the way it is.. we can't help it..OK..:)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: drk@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Dave Kohr)
Subject: Re: NEWS/VN: Senators press Hanoi on MIAs
Organization: CS Dept., Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:05:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.152922.3477@news.media.mit.edu>
tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com writes:
>
>11/17
>
>3 Senators Press Hanoi On MIAs; Vietnamese Attempt To Clear Up Doubts
>
> By Thomas W. Lippman
> Washington Post Staff Writer
>
>   HANOI, Nov. 16 -
>[....]
>   "A larger question [about record-keeping]," Kerry responded, "is about
>when you had somebody who was at a prison site and they died." The U.S.
>position is that the Vietnamese, careful record keepers, must be able to
>find someone who knows what happened to the remains of such men.

I keep reading in these newswire postings about how "careful" the
Vietnamese are as record-keepers.  Is this some kind of ethnic stereotype,
a comment about the Hanoi regime or its military bureaucracy, a comment on
something else, or just bogus commentary?
-- 
Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
                   "One either has none or not enough."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Subject: Re: Tho+: Mu+a
Reply-To: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:39:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.195232.25714@nntpserver.chevron.com>, hmyha@usho98.hou281.chevron.com (M.T.Tran) writes:
>
>     Sao mu+a hoa`i dza^.y ha? o^ng Tro+i?
>     Co+' chi o^ng dde^? nu+o+'c ma('t ro+i
>     Co+' chi o^ng cu+' tu+o+ng tu+ ma~i?
>     Tho^i ddu+`ng kho'c nu+~a, ni'n ddi tho^i....
>

     U+` thi` o^ng se~ ni'n :-))

>-- 
>MyHanh Tran                          2811 Hayes Road, Room 3106E
>Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.     Houston, TX 77082-3032, U.S.A.
>Information Technology Dept.         (713) 596-3182
>User Support Division                hmyha@usho25.hou281.chevron.com
From: hxn1951@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Experience of Boat people
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:13:31 GMT
Reply-To: hxn1951@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov17.060035.25650@cc.uow.edu.au>, mai@cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai) writes:
>Hello everyone,
>    I was one of the boat people just like manyof you guys here. I
>thought I would be the last person to recall my experience of the
>journey that was inevitably filled with dramas. Would people be
>interested in putting some effort together to build a ho^`i ky'
>of our fascinating however generally sad experiences? 
>    The younger generation would probably find it very interesting 
>to know about how the first generation came to different lands
>and dealt with different lives.
>    If enough people are interested in this. I will volunteer to 
>collect and work with others to build a ho^`i ky' of the Vie^.t
>boat people. 
>
>Cheers
>
>Van Dao MAI
>Australia
> 	Hello Mai! I am also a boat person, I wonder when did you escape VN?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyet@wam.umd.edu ((Gone With The Wind))
Subject: DDe^TaiSuy Ga^m?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:51:16 GMT





		DDe^\ Tai\ Suy Ga^m? ...



	Con ngu*o*i\ ta chu*a bao gio*\ tim\ ddu*o*c. ddinh. nghia~ xac'
ddang' cho 2 chu*? "Tu*. DO" vo*i' nhu*ng~ ngu*o*i\ nay\ danh tu*\ ddo' co'
nghia~ la\ : "Hay~ dung\ chinh' minh\ va\ thanh\ qua? co^ng vie^c. cua?
minh\ dde^? lam\ ddie^u\ minh\ thich'".

	Vo*i' nhu*ng~ ngu*o*i\ no. thi\ lai. la\ :"Hay~ dung\ ngu*o*i\
khac' va\ thanh\ qua? co^ng vie^c. cua? ngu*o*i\ khac' dde^? lam\ ddie^u\
minh\ thich'"

	Tuy\ theo cach' xu*? dung. no' ma\ ngu*o*i\ ta dda? dung\ cung\ 1
danh tu*\ ma\ chi? ddinh. 2 ddie^u\ khac' nhau va\ kho^ng the^? hoa\ ho*p.
ddu*o*c. vo*i' nhau. Do ddo' mo*i' co' tinh\ trang. :" Cai' ma\ ngu*o*i\
nay\ goi. la\ "Tu*. Do" thi\ ngu*o*i\ khac' lai. goi. la\ ddoc. tai\
chuye^n che^' "

					=Abraham Lincoln=

Moi. ngu*o*i\ nghi~ sao ha??? theo "Vo^ Danh" thi\ co' vie^t' :

	+ Cai' to^i la\ cai' nho? be'
	+ Ta so^ng' kho^ng phai? cho ta ma\ vi\ ngu*o*i\ tha^n va\ ta^t'
	  Ca? moi. ngu*o*i\
	+ Hay~ cho to^i buo^n\ tru*o*c' moi. ngu*o*i\ va\ ddu*o*c. vui
	  sau ta^t' ca? 


					=Vo^ Danh= 
{just for fun :-)) }

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: Bad weather hampers search for plane
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:31:03 GMT


11/16

BAD WEATHER HAMPERS SEARCH FOR VIETNAM PLANE

    HANOI, Nov 17, Reuter - Bad weather on Tuesday hampered a search for a
Vietnam Airlines plane that disappeared in a typhoon at the weekend carrying 31
people, including nine foreigners.
    Airline spokesman Nguyen Ngoc Quang said rain and strong wind buffeting the
southern coast was hindering the search for the Soviet-made Yak-40, which
disappeared minutes before it was due to land.
    "We're really in trouble. We really feel terrible about that," Quang told
reporters. Despite initial reports that the plane crashed in Khanh Hoa 
Province, Quang said it was unclear whether it went down on land or at sea.
    Air control staff lost contact with the crew of Flight VN474 just before it
was due to complete its journey from Ho Chi Minh City to the southern resort
town of Nha Trang.
    The plane, with 16 Vietnamese passengers and six crew, also carried four
Taiwanese, one Briton, one Frenchman, one Swede and two people from the
Netherlands.
    The two Dutch passengers were William van der Pas, director of the
newly-opened Vietnamese office of the Internationale Nederlanden Bank N.V., and
Annette Henriette, his office said.

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From:         sancaovo@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:      Cai? LU*O*ng
              Nov 20, 92 11:05 pm

Hi,
please send all parts of "CAI? LU*O*NG" you posted
so far on the net.
Thanks very much
S.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: cs252be@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Re: Ly' To^'ng : anh hu`ng hay -die^n???
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:12:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <hua.722141990@angelo> hua@angelo.amd.com (Trung Hua) writes:
>
>Well, if you don't know the outcome or the benefit of his act
>then don't judge him. 
>later ,
>TSN

I know that so far he is in a lot of trouble... and not much else.
And it seems like you are praising something that you are not even
certain of.  Wishful thinking maybe?
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 19:39:56 EST
From: <ACPS7188@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Nha.c

   Cha`o ca'c ba.n!!
 La~m co' ba`i ha't na`y nghe cu~ng hay hay ne^n post le^n dda^y cho ta^'t
ca? cu`ng "ha't" nha!!

             KHO'C CHO TI`NH DDA^`U.
                    (Ca si~: Duy Quang)
 Tho^i xin ddu*`ng ga(.p go*~, chi nu*~a em o*i, cho lo`ng be~ ba`ng.
 Vi` ti`nh dda^`u em ho*~i, dda~ ye^u ai ro^`i, se~ ye^u muo^n ddo*`i.
 Tu*` nga`y va('ng bo'ng em, buo^`n thu*o*ng mong nho*'..kho' que^n
 Em thu*o*`ng hay a^u sa^`u, buo^`n cho so^' pha^.n, em thu*o*`ng kho'c
tha^`m.
             *****
 Em! Em nho*' cha(ng em, nhu*~ng chie^`u mong cho*`.
 Gio*` nga`y a^'y dda^u co`n, ti`nh dda~ phai mo*`, ky? nie^.m nga`y mu*a
 Em! Em dda~ que^n he^'t em no'i nhu*~ng gi`, em hu*'a nhu*~ng gi`.
 Ma` dda`nh lo*~ que^n ddi phu't gia^y ban dda^`u ti`nh ye^u chu'ng ta.
             *****
 Anh kho^ng bao gio*` que^n khi mo^'i duye^n xu*a em dda`nh do^'i lu*`a.
 Du` ti`nh em dda~ he^'t, dda~ xa em ro^`i, anh va^~n thu*o*ng hoa`i.
 Cha(?ng co`n u*o*'c mo* chi ddu*o*.c ga^`n be^n nhau, no'i ye^u.
 Nghe nhi.p tim nhe. nha`ng, tu*`ng ho*i tho*? dde^`u cu?a ngu*o*`i
mi`nh ye^u  --
             Tha^n a'i,
           Nguye^~n La~m.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vnguyen@adobe.com (Vuong Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Accent marks
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:25:33 GMT

>>> From: "JFT@NCCIBM1.BITNET"   Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:28 EST
>>> Subject: ** Rules for placing accent marks? **
>>>   I am curious, what are the rules for placing accent
>>> marks in the following situations:
>>>    1) the word is made of two vowels, does the accent
>>>       mark go above the 1st or 2nd, or does it depend?
>>>       Ex.  a'o= coat, dress, shirt.... the accent is
>>>            above the first vowel.
>>>     2) the word has two vowels in between consonants.
>>>        Ex.  qua?n ly'= administrative... accent is
>>>             above the second vowel (of qua?n)
>>> Can anyone tell me some unique cases, or tell me all
>>> the rules, or are there any?
>>> Tua~'n (John).
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>From nguyenh@cod.nosc.mil Thu Nov 12 17:07:57 1992
>     Just from experience, I'd say the rule is always on the last
>     vowel, unless the last vowel is also an ending letter.
>     Not guaranteed.
>     Ho`a
 
Based on my experience & Ho`a remarks, I think there are 2 rules:
1. The accent is always on the last vowel, unless the last vowel is
   also an ending letter (then the accent will be placed on the 2nd
   last vowel).
2. If there is only ONE vowel with horn (eg: u+ or o+), then the accent
   will be placed on that vowel.  (if more than 1 vowel with horn, rule
   1 must be used).
 
Notes: - 'y' is a vowel in vietnamese.
       - Since 'qu' is special combination in vietnamese, (even in English)
         that 'u' is not considered a vowel.
         (the combination 'gi' is also a special same case as 'qu')
 
Vuong ;-)
From: mdo@socrates.umd.edu ("Mike T. Do")
Subject: [JUNK] THURSDAY 11/19 AND WORDS OF WISDOM
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:24:08 GMT

Happy Birthday

1752  George Rogers Clark, frontier military leader in Revolutionary War
1831  James A. Garfield, 20th President (3/4 - 9/19/1881)
1905  Tommy Dorsey

On this day

1493  Christopher Columbus discovers Puerto Rico
1863  Lincoln delivers his address in Gettysburg
1859  the pencil is invented
1970  Golden State Park Conservatory becomes a California State Historical
      landmark.

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