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From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: Re: Catholic Lifestyle Book Recommendation
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:37:46 GMT


adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
 
> Can anyone suggest a good book on the Roman Catholic lifestyle?
> I'm not a Catholic myself, and I have to say that the Catholic
> lifestyle is a real puzzler to me.  I'd like something light
> and frothy as I'm not real interested in theology.
 
In terms of "light and frothy" -- there is the a book called
GROWING UP CATHOLIC, which is written in the same format as
THE PREPPY HANDBOOK.  There are also books on the lives of the
saints -- which were nearly required reading when I was a pup.
 
For something a little more serious, there is Joyce's PORTRAIT OF
THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN.  
 
There is a startling difference between The Church before Vatican II,
and after Vatican II.  I was in 6th grade when the changes came.  Even
though I am no longer religious, I still long for the ritual and the pomp.
 
Mark
From: spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
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Subject: Re: Catholic Lifestyle Book Recommendation
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:49 CST
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adolphson writes...
>Can anyone suggest a good book on the Roman Catholic lifestyle?
>I'm not a Catholic myself, and I have to say that the Catholic
>lifestyle is a real puzzler to me.  I'd like something light
>and frothy as I'm not real interested in theology.
>Arne

+-------------------------------------SubG-----------------------------------+
Well, dear friend, in order to understand the POWER and the GLORY you must
first consider the HUMAN FACTOR to really get to the HEART of the MATTER....

[pause]

Uh...how about _Brighton Rock_?

Or _Don Quixote_ or the _Commedia_?



















I just KNOW someone's
gonna not get this,
Yours etc.,




SubGenius

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From: spb0457@rigel.tamu.edu (SubGenius)
Subject: Re: Neuromancer
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:03:00 GMT

John Squires writes...
>I just started reading Gibson's Neuromancer.  I have many questions but 
>the one I can think of offhand--
>  Can someone please explain the ice used in the novel?
>				Thanks
>				  John Squires
>Would also like any further discussions.

+--------------------------------------------SubG------------------------------+
I believe what you're asking is "What does Mr. Gibson mean when he uses the
word `ice' as a computer-related term?"  I'll believe that because I don't
recall any `real' ice (i.e., very cold water) in the novel.  If I'm mistaken
here, feel free to slap me about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken.

`Ice' in the argot of cyberpunks is computer security, visually represented
in the virtual reality world(s) of W.G. u.s.w. as a solid wall (or whathaveyou)
between the virtual person and the virtual whatever that person wants to get at.

Interestingly, the term has found its way into some REAL programmer's lexicons,
although Mr. Gibson created virtually [cough.  hack.  arg] all his lingo out
of whole cloth as (from his own admission) he had little actual knowledge of
computers when he wrote _Neuromancer_.


As far as the series goes, _Neuromancer_ is (IMNSHO) the best of the lot, and
is simultaneously overrated (by fawning hordes of salivating cyberdudes whose
main interest in the novel is centered around the presence of lasses with
Wilkenson Sword safety razors under their Lee Press-On Nails) and underrated
(by the literarti, who refuse to take anything seriously that involves
computers, robots, space ships, bug-eyed monsters and especially lasses with
Wilkenson Sword safety razors under their Lee Press-On Nails).

_Count Zero_ was a bit of a disappointment, but _Mona Lisa Overdrive_ was 
easily as impressive as _Neuromancer_, and possibly would have been considered
even more impressive if it had been written earlier.














Yours etc.,






SubGenius


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From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: Wittgenstein, P.I.
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
	<TORKEL.92Nov21194533@bast.sics.se> <1992Nov21.205719.5509@eff.org>
	<TORKEL.92Nov21235600@bast.sics.se> <gall.722534917@yorku.ca>
	<TORKEL.92Nov23174534@bast.sics.se> <gall.722543992@yorku.ca>
	<TORKEL.92Nov23201715@bast.sics.se> <gall.722553258@yorku.ca>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:54:45 GMT

In article <gall.722553258@yorku.ca> gall@nexus.yorku.ca (Norm Gall) writes:

   >What I am asserting is that these conditions do not give sufficient
   >conditions for a license to call it metaphysics.  I'd call it
   >philosophy--not metaphysics.

  That's odd, since on the face of it my characterization of metaphysical
views:

   strongly held ideas about what exists, what is real, what it makes
   sense to invoke in explanations, what is or is not a question of fact

is in good agreement with your characterization of metaphysics:

   >metaphysics concerns itself with what is actually the
   >case about the world independent of humans, human investigation, and
   >human reasoning.

  Could you explain the difference?

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From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Maddona's new book
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:04:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.181126.3974@eff.org>, mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:

|> You may be sure that I did mean for personae to be taken as a plural.
|> 
|> But I didn't mean to imply that I had names for her personae.
 
 Well, you can start with "Boy Toy" and "Material Girl" and go from there.
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From: ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Well, Nichael??
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:49:44 GMT
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> yarnot@babbage.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot) writes:
>So when is the Big Unveiling, Nichael?  [...]

As of this afternoon, the current vote totals:

TOTAL
VOTES    That I ...
-----    ----------
  7    ...am Male.

  4    ...am Female.

  1    ...am "the reasonable Cramer".

  1    ...should change my last name to avoid any confusion.

  1    ...if I'm involved with <a-certain-unnamed-software-product> 
       that I should kill myself. 


One curious feature, not obvious in the raw totals, is the fact that of
those women who voted, all but one voted "female" and of those men who
voted, all but one voted "male".

N

P.S. It's hardly an original observation, but I`ve found interesting the
     amount of extra (and extraneous) data we bundle together with the
     knowledge that X is male/female.  E.g. during my daughter's first
     winter, most of her exposure to complete strangers occured when she
     was wrapped in a snowsuit with little besides her face showing.  There
     were no other clues to her sex and when making a guess --as most did--
     about half would guess wrong (just as one would expect if the sample
     was truly random).
     
     Two things surprised me, though: First, I always found it amazing that
     anyone could look at that little face and not just _know_ that this
     was a darling little girl (which, again, says nothing about anything
     so much as my own set of preconceptions).  And second, most of those
     who guessed did so in such a way that it seemed pretty clear that they
     thought I might attack them if they happened to guess wrong.
From: amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Surreal Novels About WWII
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:03:35 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Apart from the big three American novels, _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Catch 22_
and _Slaughterhouse Five_, there is also the French Nazi-collaborator
doctor Louis-Ferdinand Celine's novels, _Voyage au bout de la nuit_,
_D'un chateau l'autre_ and _Nord_.  The first book describes the 
experiences and opinions of a truculent slum doctor during and after 
the Great War.  The last two are set in WWII and form a pleasing
counterpoint to the Allied wave from the American scriveners.  The plot
revolves around a series of retreats from castle to castle by Hitler's
Court, accompanied by French collaborators.

Celine writes in highly bizarre and logorrhoidal language, including some
of the most inventive profanity ever concocted eg. describing Simone de 
Beavoir as "a mummified worm" and page-long diatribes against his detractors.
There is an English translation by John Marks (1934) of the first novel. 
The nightmare power of Celine's vision, and profligate resourcefulness of
his language are winning him increasing respect from the critics, despite
his avowed anti-Semitism and general misanthropy.

There is also Ballard's _Empire of the Sun_, now immortalized by Spielberg's
kitsch big screen adaptation.  Or how about D.M. Thomas's _The White Hotel_
a psycoanalysis of a survivor of the Babi Yar massacre (drawn from the real
life, but often surreal testimonies collected by Anatoli Kuznetsov).   Would
Lawrence Durrell's tetralogies be surreal enuff for 'ya?  'How 'bout Isaac
Babel's _Red Cavalry_, a bit like a dweebish Woody Allen as a Communist Jew 
Cossack, slaughtering Polish Jews in progroms.  And let's not forget Jiri
Weil's Kaskaesque offering, _Life with a Star_.

Three close misses:  Mann's _The Magic Mountain_ and Musil's _The Man
without Qualities_, which both takes place just prior to the WWI, and 
D"oblin' _Berlin Alexanderplatz_; Biberkoff's rise and fall as a Berlin 
pimp in Weimar Germany, adapted by Fassbinder for German TV.

And one more:  _Alamut_ by the Slovak `prophet' Vladimir Bartol, whose 1938
tale of Hassan ibn Sabbah, the infamous Grandfather of Assassin, foretells
both the rise of Nazism and Fundamentalist Islamic terrorism.

That's all for now kids.

-- 
Marko Amnell
amnell@klaava.helsinki.fi
Graduate Student in Philosophy
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From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: not verbose (was Re: Balls etc.)
Organization: Clark University
Date: 19 NOV 92 13:55:32 GMT


zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny), waving his mighty
Eurodick again, writes:

>Eloquence being the quintessential tertiary sexual characteristic of
>the male, I conclude that scantiness of tropes is a sign of smallness
>of genitals.  

Mikhail: It ain't the meat, it's the motion.

Heather
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
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Subject: Re: Balls &c. and numbers thereof.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:55:51 GMT
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Mark Taranto writes:

	Francis Muir writes:

        	Dani Zweig writes quoting John Blasik:

               		It was mentioned on CNN that the new prime 
			number discovered recently is four times bigger 
			then the previous record.
 
		If it is indeed four times bigger, then it isn't prime.

	I keep hearing about larger prime numbers being found.  Who the 
	hell looks for these things (this should be read with my father's 
	voice, not with mine)?
 
	I figure it must be computer scientists.  A mathematician would
	ever do anything so silly.  He knows that larger primes are there,
	that they are not divisible by four, and is satisfied with the 
	knowledge.

It is worse than that. There was a time when some interesting number
theoretic stuff went into finding large primes (start by looking through
Knuth's SEMINUMERICAL METHODS), but it is clear from the small increment
that persons are now just using the same algorithms on slightly larger
amchines. Big Deal. Since Guinness prints the number and the computer
it was found on, we may be looking at a marketing gimmick from one of
the computer manufacturers. Cray has done several, so it may be one of the
others, and a less scientific one. Your guess is as good as mine.

I know its probably not true, but I like to think that Joe Green correctly
guessed the last Biggie that Cray produced.
 
								Fido
From: budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:27:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Who wrote the Book of Love?
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
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br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col) writes:

>And of course we have to answer this pop song question.  And the answer is,

Ovid.

-Bud
From: wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
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Subject: Re: Accuracy in autobiography (was: GENIUS: Richard Feynman)
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:04:16 EST

In article <1e8i7fINNh7c@morrow.stanford.edu>, francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
> In his later years Newton became one of the gurus (guroi?) we have
> been discussing. Physics and Mathematics -- mere toys -- were given
> up in favor of Alchemy and Theology. Sound familiar?
> 
> Newton and Hooke come together in the Linear Theory of Elasticity
> which depends both on Newton's Law
> 
> 		Force is Mass times Acceleration
> 
> and Hooke's Law
> 
> 		Stress is proportional to Strain.
> 
> 20th century sophistry insists, nowadays, that Hooke wins the battle
> of complication with a 4th order tensor relating Stress and Strain. 
> Newton can offer no more than a frequency-dependent, anisotropic 2nd
> order Mass Density tensor as the limit of complication in a non-
> relativistic (that is, my) world. Hooke was a 1st class Mechanic and
> maybe it was this that pissed Newton off.
> 
Perhaps I'm just picking nits here, but my undergrad mechanics book
claims that Hooke published F = -kx as a latin anagram, strictly 
1-d.  Does Hooke explicitly mention the possibility of displacement
having a component orthogonal to applied force?  If not, the 1st 
class mechanic in question would be Lam\'e, who postdated Newton.
						-Luke
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From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
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Subject: Re: Wittgenstein and metaphysics was: Wittgenstein, P.I.
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:45:08 GMT
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In article <gall.722554639@yorku.ca> gall@nexus.yorku.ca (Norm Gall) writes:
>cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes:
...

>|And you say Wittgenstein wasn't concerned with "what is the case". (Except,
>|I suppose, in his misspent youth.) What's the opposite of this kind of
>|concern; what is it to be unconcerned with what is the case? 

>Well, he was concerned with what is the case.

>But he was more concerned with the grammar of language (not grammar in
>the sense of english grammar, but logical grammar)  Logical grammar
>describes the way concepts 'interlock' and exclude one another.  A
>good reference for this is 

>Rundle, Bede. Grammar in Philosophy. (Basil Blackwell: Oxford, 1979)

Well now wait a minute--I didn't ask for you to teach me what logic (or
"logical grammar") is; indeed, I don't feel the need to learn more about
these matters. I was only asking you about _your_ contention that
Wittgenstein was somehow an anti-metaphysician; as an adjunct to this
question, I asked you to tell me more about how you see the role of
metaphysics, and how you would characterize this anti-metaphysical quality
you see in Wittgenstein.

However, the best you seem to be able to do is to say that Wittgenstein was
concerned with logic (or "logical grammar"), and not with the kind of stuff
a more worldly investigator might be interested in. However, that's not the
right kind of contrast: of _course_ Wittgenstein was not interested in
fingerprints, or clues about who killed whom. And yes, I would certainly
count logic to be among his interests. But all this does nothing to clarify
your contention about Wittgenstein and metaphysics.

Yes, I know you can find some passages in P.I. that use "metaphysics" in a
pejorative way, and that can lend themselves to buttressing a contention
that Wittgenstein saw some importance in doing away with "metaphysics". But
just because Wittgenstein on occasion says things about metaphysics does
not mean 1) that we understand the same thing by "metaphysics" that he did,
and 2) that he was really saying something illuminating about his approach
to philosophy in these passages.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
             |      Die Welt ist alles, was Zerfall ist.     |
Peter Cash   |       (apologies to Ludwig Wittgenstein)      |cash@convex.com
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From: gall@nexus.yorku.ca (Norm Gall)
Subject: Re: Wittgenstein, P.I.
Organization: York University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:08:37 GMT

torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) writes:

|In article <1992Nov21.205719.5509@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
| writes:

|   >If you can
|   >demonstrate that Wittgenstein was not deeply critical of metaphysics, I
|   >will happily admit my error here.

|  Sure thing! Wittgenstein was of course critical of metaphysics with which
|he disagreed, but at the same time he had strong metaphysical convictions of
|his own, which he put forward in his philosophizing. 

|Wittgenstein stated his metaphysical preferences most
|plainly, perhaps, in his voluminous writings on the philosophy of mathematics.

I have had this argument many times before with many different people.
W was not a metaphysician, nor can his writings be standardly
construed to be metaphysical.  Only in a soft minded way can his
positions be considered to contain a metaphysical position, i.e. if
_any_ statement about existence counts a a metaphysical claim.
From: amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Surreal Novels About WWII
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:40:16 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Stephanie Moskal Fysh writes:

	And add also D. M. Thomas's _The White Hotel_.

Is there an echo in here?

-- 
Marko Amnell
amnell@klaava.helsinki.fi
Graduate Student in Philosophy
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Clerihewing
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:33:31 GMT
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Sanjiva Prasad writes:

	Sometimes a Wombat writes:

		Sanjiva Prasad writes a clerihew:

			Vikram Seth
			Wrote "The Golden Gate"
			A novel in sonnet verse
			On West Coast Boomers.

	And yes, the second couplet isn't (but it is in most Indian 
	English); for that matter neither is the first for the "th" 
	is Seth >is different from the "t" in Gate (but not really 
	discernable to the English/American ear).

Hmm. I confess that Prasad has lost me. Admittedly my Indian English
was gleaned chiefly from Music Halls (Peter Sellars as Indian Gynecologist.
"Put it away, please."), but how on earth does an Indian get "verse" to
rhyme with "Boomers"? I'd say that's a stretch.

							Col. Fido.
							Indian Army, retd.
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From: lew@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (lewis.h.mammel..jr)
Subject: Re: Giant shoulders ( was: ( was: ... ))
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:28:29 GMT
Summary: Robert K. Merton appears from nowhere

In article <1992Nov16.193702.28836@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, lew@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (lewis.h.mammel..jr) writes:
> 
> I wonder if you read the same thing I did. I think it must have
> been S.J. Gould ( in Time's Arrow, Time's Cycle ?? ) I remember it
> being stated that there was a church window depicting the Apostles
> riding on the shoulders of the Prophets, so that by this allusion
> Newton may be construed to have been exalting himself.

I checked this out and it is in TATC. Gould references Robert K. Merton's
On_the_Shoulders_of_Giants, and when I was putting Gould back, there
was Merton right on my bookshelf! I have no recollection of acquiring
this book. I almost felt dizzy when I saw it, given the circumstances.

I think a friend of mine gave it to me. He frequents book sales
and sometimes gives me duplicates. I checked with him and he does
have a copy of the same paperback edition, so that's surely it.
I guess I'll have to read it now.

The "church" is Chartres, and the window in the south transept
depicts Matthew, John, Mark, and Luke sitting respectively on
the shoulders of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and Jeremiah.


Lew Mammel, Jr.
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From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: "Books in Popsongs" quiz
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:11:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.200151.10816@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) writes:

>I liked the "Authors in Popsongs" quiz enough that I've got a followup here -- 
>one point each for the title of the song; the artist/group/composer -- ie. the
>name with which the song would most be associated; the name of the book or story
>or poem or series it's based on/makes strong reference to _with_ the author.
>
>
>8.  ...he whom life can no longer surprise
>    raising his eyes beholds a planet unknown.
>
>


This obviously refers to Keats' "On First Looking Into Chapman's
Homer"

        ...
        Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
        When a new planet swims into his ken
        ...


But I have no clue as to the artist/group/composer.


>Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach

-Sayan Bhattacharyya

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Achenake' bhoy ki amar ore' ?
Achenake' chine' chine' oothbe' jeebon bhore' |

                                (Rabindranath Tagore)

    

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From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: RE: not verbose (was Re: Balls etc.)
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:20:59 GMT



hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu (Heather) writes:
 
> Uh-Oh, I've been sucked into Mikhail's ever-unfolding drama.  How'd that
> happen?
 
>From egging him on -- or is it from balling him out?
 
Eggs, Balls -- never could tell the difference.
 
 
>       [Other stuff deleted]
 
> Less of some things is better than more.  Talk, for example.
> Less talk, more action.  Women don't want to castrate men,
> they just want them to shut up.
 
 
Hmmmm.  Heather debunks the stereotype of the silent man wishing
the yapping woman would shut up.
 
Good for her.  But I'm staying away from Worcester, just in case she is
serious.
 
 
Mark
From: amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: good novels about gay lifestyle
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:46:41 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <leroy.722479673@yak> leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:

>I'd try "The Swimming Pool Library," by Hollinghurst. He's "a writer," 
>rather than a "gay writer" -- I tend to find most "gay writing" to be
>the postmodern equivalent of the airport novel: trashy *and* 
>pretentious. I'm sure it's the same for most genres.

Let me second this recommendation.  Alan Hollinghurst is a splendid
writer, crisp, erudite and with a wonderful mastery of architectural
and historical detail.  He is currently deputy editor of the Times
Literary Supplement.  Judging by the location of my bookmark, I only
got halfway through the novel, his first.  How will Lord Nantwich's 
biography turn out?  And how shall the murder mystery evolve?  To me,
part of the charm of _The Swimming Pool Library_ was that my life is
something of a heterosexual variation of William Bechwith's, the
"young gay aristocrat who leads a life of privilege and promiscuity".
Now, what does that say about my `deep psyche'?

-- 
Marko Amnell
amnell@klaava.helsinki.fi
Graduate Student in Philosophy
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