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From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen)
Subject: MD30C scanner and related software.
Reply-To: iversen@vsfys1.fi.uib.no
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:29:53 GMT



Someone here bought a MD30C scanner here recently. After installing the basic
software it performs nicely. However all the scanned images are either in DDIF
or PostScript formats. The idea was that one could use CONVERT/DOCUMENT to 
convert to other formats for export. However this does not work very well:

$ conv/doc/message test.img/form=ddif test.tif/form=tiff
%TIFF-E-UNSUPPLANAR, unsupported planar configuration
%CDA-E-ERROUTLOG, error messages produced during output conversion, see error log
%CDA-E-ERROUTLOG, error messages produced during output conversion, see error log

Despite the messages, CONVERT does not produce any error log files either.
Similarly conversions the other way, from TIFF files created on other systems
does not work either, the conversion does not create any messages, but the
VIEW command creates error messages like this:

Used a generic page as default page
Unsized image of 271 by 414 pixels
 scaled to 49486 by 75600 centipoints
Error processing image information, cannot display

This is similar to what we get when attempting to display TIFF files known to
be OK. 

Is this software broken, is it likely to be our setup somehow, or do we have 
to wait for the next release? The DECdirect catalogue claimed one could archive
images in TIFF, TGA, PCX, BMP, EPS and other formats.... We would be happy to
learn of any ways to make this work.

-psi 

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From: LABELLES@ZENO.MSCD.EDU (Stephen LaBelle - MSCD)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: joining a 4500 and a 4600 into a cluster running 5.4-2
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:19:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

CLINTON%CSMCMVAX.BITNET@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU writes:

> When attempting to join a vax4500 into our cluster, we get an "unknown or
> unsupported processor" error.  The rest of the cluster runs VMS 5.4-2.

What type of VAXcluster??? What is the specific configuration???? Do all
the other nodes BOOT????

How many nodes???

You say the rest of the cluster runs VMS 5.4-2, What version of VMS does the
VAX4500 run???

I would READ the error message. "UNKNOWN OR UNSUPPORTED PROCESSOR!" would seem
to indicate the nature of the problem....


> I've been told that the 4500 needs VMS 5.5-2 to recognize its RF73 drives, 
> but why will it not boot as an LAVC node?
> 
> Clinton

A VAX processor must be running at least VMS 5.5 to utilize RF73 drives, 
perhaps a 4500 needs 5.5-2, that still doesn't really give me enough 
information to offer you any help???

It would be real nice if you posted an E-MAIL address so people could direct
mail to you directly. Notice mine at the bottom of this posting!!!


*****

For all the folks out there complaining about the flames! The above is a
prime example of not giving out enough information such that anyone could
possibly attempt to give a reasonable answer to the question. The person
whom posted this should look at the error message, it would seem to be a
sure clue as to the problem!

Please post questions with CLEAR, COMPLETE, CONSISE information and so that the
good people of this list can help you!


						Steve


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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jareed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Judith Ann Reed)
Subject: problem with TK50 hang on Microvax
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:41:17 EST

Greetings, netfolks. I'm having trouble with a MicroVAX II, running VMS 5.0,
with a TK50. Said TK50 worked up till recently, but lately does the following:

I start a backup, it runs fine till it asks for a 2nd tape. When you load 
the 2nd tape in, system will not recognize. When you issue a REPLY/TO= 
command, process running backup continues to sit there, never loads 2nd tape.
When you kill the process, drive will no longer work at all till reboot.
I need to get a good backup before trying a power down to see if Tape
controller can be cleared. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any suggestions?
Please email, I'll summarize if there's interest, don't follow group 
regularly. Thanks!

Judith Reed
sysmgr, Syracuse Univ. Physics Dept.
judith@suhep.phy.syr.edu
jareed@mailbox.syr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: losecco@undpdk.hep.nd.edu     (John LoSecco)
Subject: How to run DECwindows clients on non-dec workstations
Organization: Notre Dame High Energy Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:09:30 GMT

We have numerous non dec workstations, sun, IBM, Silicon Graphics, HP.
We would like to run DECwindows clients, such as DECterm on these
workstaions.  The problem is DEC provides no ``supported'' way to map
the keyboard on the VMS version.  (The ultrix manual even includes an
example to do remapping.)

The biggest, but not only, problem is DEC's use of the non standard rubout
for delete and not the backspace.  Most of our systems are unix or PC based
and come with keyboards that emit backspace.  The only solution DEC
would propose is to use xmodmap to remap the server's keys.  This blows away
most local use and use on other unix clients, without a great deal of remapping.

Surely, since DECwindows originated with xwindows, there is an ``unofficial''
way to remap the client keyboard.

Our present access to vax is via telnet in an xterm window with a remapped
keyboard.  We would like to use X too.

-- 
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Physics Department		HEPnet/SPAN: UNDHEP::LOSECCO or 47344::LOSECCO
University of Notre Dame		Internet: losecco@undpdk.hep.nd.edu
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 USA		Bitnet: losecco@undhep
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <199301101043.AA29439@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>, EC_TIAN@VAXA.OCS.MQ.EDU.AU writes...
#I have iends in USA and other counties but lost connection with them.
#Could you help me how to search the e-mail add list so I can find them
#and send e-mail to them. Thank you very much.

	This newsgroup is read in three different forms, only one of
	which (the bitnet server) could provide you a partial list,
	and even then only of its readers.

	If you're searching for people in the USA and other counties
	(the USA is not a county by the way, it's a major portion of
	one continent and some of others as it encompasses 50 states
	and several territories) you need to try more mundane means,
	such as telephone books.

	Ehud

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Where to post source code?
From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:51:40 EDT
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.


A quick question:  If I wished to post some rather lengthy source code,
does it belong to this newsgroup, or is there another?  Thanks.


-- 
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Muskegon, MI  49440		>> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<

"Your majesty, I have a message from God for you."	-- Judges 3:20
From: compilers-request@iecc.cambridge.ma.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re:  A request to compiler writers on evaluation at compile time
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:22:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Your message to the moderated usenet group comp.compilers has been
received at the moderator's computer.  Within a few days, it should either
be posted to usenet or, if for some reason it's not suitable for posting,
returned to you.

When you send a message to comp.compilers, the moderator understands that
to mean that you want him to post it to usenet, which means it will be
sent to tens of thousands of potential readers at thousands of computers
all around the world.  It may also appear in a printed comp.compilers
annual and other books, in the ACM SIGPLAN Notices and other magazines, in
on-line and off-line archives, CD-ROMs, and anywhere else that some reader
decides to use it.

If you don't want him to post something, please send it instead to
compilers-request@iecc.cambridge.ma.us.

Regards,
The comp.compilers reception robot
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:23:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Richard B. Gilbert (dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu) writes:

>	It is also possible to write a dump to your primary paging file
>(which must reside on the system disk).

While I think that Richard means that *if* you want to use your page file as a 
dump file as well, *then* the page file must be on the system disk, I want to 
clarify this statement.

Unless you do want to use your page file as a dump file as well, VMS V5.x does 
not require any page file on the system disk.  The concept of primary/secondary 
page files was eliminated when VMS was altered to allow up to four page files 
(none of which need to be on the system disk).  VMS startup will proceed just 
file without a page file.  In phase DEVICES (the second phase of startup to 
run), startup runs SYS$STARTUP:VMS$DEVICE_STARTUP.COM.  This procedure in turn 
executes SYS$MANAGER:SYPAGSWPFILES.COM (if it exists), in which you mount the 
paging disk(s) and install the page file(s).  Once this procedure runs, a page 
file will then be available for any subsequent processes.

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From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:50:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I just wanted to correct a small, very common error:

	The crash-dump file must be on the system disk.

The crash dump file is opened early in startup, way before you can mount any
disks, so it must, indeed, be on the system disk.

						         You can, however,
	have the system write its crash-dump to the pagefile, but I believe
	that pagefile must be on the system disk to be used as a crash-dump
	area.

The dump can go only to the primary pagefile.  The primary pagefile must be
on the system disk, since it is opened at about the same time the crash dump
file is located, very early during system boot.

Note that in recent versions of (VMS V5.2 or later?  I'm not sure) you don't
need to have a primary pagefile.

	       This is done by setting SAVEDUMP to 1.

No; SAVEDUMP does something very different.

If a crash takes place, there was no SYSDUMP.DMP file when the system booted,
but there is a primary page file, then the dump will be taken to the primary
pagefile.  (Note:  NOT there was no USEFUL SYSDUMP.DMP file - a 0-block
SYSDUMP.DMP file will prevent dumping to the pagefile.)  SAVEDUMP is not
checked.

SAVEDUMP is checked AT THE NEXT BOOT.  If, at that time, it is 0, the dump
in the pagefile is ignored and system just starts using the pagefile.  If,
however, it is 1, the parts of the pagefile that contain the dump are marked
off-limits, preserving the dump.  (You normally free them up for use in paging
by using ANALYZE/CRASH/COPY to copy the information to a more convenient
location.  You can also use ANALYZE/CRASH/RELEASE to simply discard the dump.)

Note, BTW, that because the dump is ALWAYS taken, and it is the value of
SAVEDUMP defined at the NEXT boot that matters, you can run with SAVEDUMP=0,
effectively ignoring the dumps, and then at some point after a crash do an
interactive boot, set SAVEDUMP to 1, and analyze the dump.

							-- Jerry

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: TN3270 emulation on a VAX
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:09:44 GMT


In article <01GTE8HKP66A004FG7@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes:
>Posted for a friend of mine ...
>
>A site needs TN3270 emulation to access an IBM system through dumb VTxxx 
>terminals.  The IBM system can be accessed using TCP/IP software on the VAX, 
>but due to the number of VTxxx terminals already installed, it would be 
>desirable to some software, on the VAX, emulate the TN3270 terminal and 
>display the output on a VTxxx terminal.
>
>Basically a "$ TELNET/TERMINAL=TN3270" sortof setup.  There are some TCP/IP
>packages for PCs which do this -- hoping there's something for the VAX.
>
>Anyone know of such a beast (DEC's SNA-3270 requires too much hardware)?
>
TGV's MultiNet does a damn fine job.  And it negotiates the TN3270, so you
don't even have to know it's an IBM (although it's best to be prepared for that
little bit of news :-)  I simply do a $telnet vmsp and up pops the login mask.

Since we are using TN3270 as part of a migration away from our SNA Gateways,
it's  also nice to have a keymapping that matches our SNAGway keymapping. 
TGV was happy to provide that, too.
--
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TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support    | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here)     |
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Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:20420 comp.unix.aix:13040
From: willis@cs.athabascau.ca (Tony Willis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Pathworks and AIX (groan)
Keywords: PC's, pathworks, AIX3.2
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:11:07 GMT
Followup-To: twillis@drao.nrc.ca
Organization: Athabasca University

Hello, I hope someone can help me. 

I have a whole bunch of PCs which do their Internetworking with
DEC's PATHWORKS package. The people on the PCs would like to
establish contact with a bunch of IBM rs/6000 workstations
and use their PCs as (un)glorified X-terminals.

If you start up PATHWORKS with the dwdos option you eventually
get some little windows which allow you to start up an
X application on the workstation (that's the theory anyway).
When the rs/6000s were all at AIX3.1.5 you could
enter a command such as '/usr/bin/X11/mwm' in the Pathworks
startup window, and lo-and-behold the motif window manager in
the rs/6000 would establish contact with the PC and users could
start up xterms, etc. 

However, since I upgraded all rs/6000s to AIX3.2 the
ability to connect seems to have disappeared. I suspect this
may have something to do with users having appropriate
Xdefaults files and so on.

If anybody has found the golden rule for getting PATHWORKS
and AIX to talk to each other in X-land, could you please tell
me the secret?

Thanks for your help.

Tony Willis
twillis@drao.nrc.ca
From: david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: ps2hp utility needed
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:01:23 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam

In article <C0FGxI.KvE@sci.kun.nl>, hong@mbfys.kun.nl (Hong Zhou) writes:
> 
> I am looking for a unitility that converts a postscript file
> to a file that can be printed on a HP LaserJet. 
> 

I got a utility from a DECUS tape to convert sixel to HP format. Which is
fine if you can get the Postscript to sixel using DEC's PSPRINT.

Maybe someone knows of other ways of converting postscript to other formats ?

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From: mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How to interpret CPU usage on VMS.
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:12:40 GMT
Reply-To: mvbr@se.alcbel.be
Organization: Alcatel Bell Telephone


--
My superior wants me to generate a cpu usage report, ordered by
user applications, system manager activities, reporting tools, operating
system,... 
I can use VPA to define workloads and generate reports based on resource
consumption by these workloads. What I would like to know is 

a) How to take into account the cpu contribution from VMS itself (those 
activities that are not dedicated to processes like swapper, ...). 
I might concentrate on the different cpu modes (kernel, supervisor, ...) but is
this allright ?
b) How to take into account activities that are command procedure based (e.g.
various system management activities, reporting tools). I think it is not 
possible to define workloads based on names of batchjobs, command procedures. 
One idea might me that I copy LOGINOUT.EXE to ACTION1.EXE for each command proc 
and then do a RUN ACTION1/INPUT=cmdproc1. 
c) How do I interpret idle time. IBM system managers claim their system is
never idle, even when there are no users or applications running. 
Is this reasonable or are there better ways.
d) How to generate e.g. a pie chart report in which the idle time is included.
Please reply by e-mail and I will summarize.
Thanks
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From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1993Jan10.124647.12@echosphere.com>, danmz@echosphere.com (Dan Zirin) writes...
#In article <1inl0oINNo4c@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
#> .....
#> phrase "primary paging file."  Please note that in recent versions of VMS you
#> do not have to have a primary paging file.
#> 
#>>VMS startup will proceed just file without a page file.
#> 
#> True.  However, secondary page files lack some of the features associated with
#> the primary page file (the ability to be used as a dump file, for example).
# 
#Are there any other side effects for managers that have no page/swap files on
#the boot drive?

None, except that until you install some file as a page or swap file,
you'd better hope you don't flush the modified page list or your system
will hang.  Fortunately you're supposed to use sypagswpfiles.com, which
runs early enough in system startup to install the page and swap files
before flushing the mpl.

#Is VMS non-paged until a pagefile is installed and present?

All image activation requires paging.  All working sets use paging.
VMS is just as 'paging' with the exception that it can't write any
modified pages out to pagefile backing until it has a pagefile.

#Is the boot drive pagefile faster or better for the primary system processes
#that get created before external pagefiles are installed?  Just curious...

No different.  If you install pagefiles in time (before system hang ;)
then it really makes little difference where the file is, with the normal
performance caveats.

#Daniel "Zar" Zirin                                         DanMZ@Echosphere.Com
#"...no matter where you go, there you are." - BB           Raptor!DanMZ@CSN.Org

Ehud

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: PASSWORDS & SCHEMES
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:02:19 GMT

JLW@PSULIAS.PSU.EDU ("J.Lance Wilkinson,  865-1818", 814) writes:
>	Since, as Dan mentioned, we have a way to add new items to the 
>	DEC-supplied dictionary, I've wanted to do was to adapt a working 
>	dictionary-based password policy program (like Ted Neiland's, for 
>	example), to, instead of validating the plaintext password against
>	a dictionary, record the plaintext passwords which got this far (thus
>	they are *accepted* by VMS's other filters) in a file.  Weekly, we'd 
>	analyze the file of recorded plaintext passwords (saved *without* the 
>	username, of course) to see if there were any words cropping up more 
>	often.  These words would then need to be added to the dictionary 
>	because they're getting too popular as passwords.

This is an incredibly bad idea.  It's somewhat irrelevent if you keep the
username or not.  If you have 20 users change the password in a week, you
can guess easily, or find out exactly has each one (by looking at the password
change date in the UAF).

Plus, this is a hacker's dream.  Why use dictionaries when you have a file
of x known good passwords on the system?  Think again on this one, and don
your asbestos suit...

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	Darrin
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