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From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Knees. . .
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:36:53 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

> The only people I know that wear knee braces are ones that have already 
> injured knees.  I am wondering if it is beneficial to wear knee braces to 
> prevent injury in the first place?   If so, what brands, are they comfortable,
> do you wear them etc. etc. etc.

  Once my left knee was hurting pretty bad after two practices and the 1st
  moto.  There was some section on the track that was really giving me a 
  pounding on that part of the body.  

  I considered it was an emergency situation to lessen the pain and possible 
  damage before the next moto.  The only thing I could think of was duct
  tape.  On the outside of my pants, I wrapped the knee snuggly to where it
  resisted movement.  The fix worked and I rode painless in the next moto.

  Until I learned the "miracle cure all" of gripping the bike with the 
  knees, I've used duct tape many times.  I know I preach that technique
  alot in this group, but if it really didn't help everything so much, I 
  would not pressure it.  Give it a try through jumps, whoops, strights
  and braking.  You'll be amazed.
_____________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton (RM)             |  "Friends don't let friends ride S****i."
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |  "Life is short, ride hard."
                               |  "Born and Bred to Rip and Shred."


From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:44:09 GMT
Subject: Landuse Mailing list in On-line!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

For those that aren't (yet) on the list, the landuse mailing list is
on-line! Thanks to Hesh for donating a system and his time to get the
automated mailing list in place.  The mailing list is operating on one of
the HP machines in California. 

I originally  suggested  that a landuse  mailing list be created to garner
the  support  of other  OHV  users in local  and  global  land use  issues
affecting OHV users.  In a recent letter  writing  campaign to the USFS in
Colorado, OHV users were  outnumbered 10 to 1 by  opposition.  By creating
this mailing list, we can gain the support of other OHV  supporters,  even
if they will never ride the trails that are affected.

In return for support from other users, you must also be willing to take a 
few minutes to help others.  This help will most often be a few minutes
spent in mailing or faxing a response to a land manager or elected
official.  We gain strength in *active* numbers.  

To be effective, we need to make it as easy as possible for someone to
generate a response.  I would suggest the following format for requests 
to the mailing list: 

  1.  Brief History of situation.  In a couple of paragraphs, what is the 
    history of the controversy?  Who are the opponents, what action has 
    been taken, etc.   What is the deadline for inputs? 

  2.  Who do we write to?  Include name, address, and phone #.  If
    possible, include a fax #.   For lazy sloths like myself, it's much 
    easier to walk to the fax than it is to try and round up stamps, 
    envelopes, and walk to the mailbox.

  3.  Key points to include in letter.  What are the key points to be made 
    in this letter?  For the most impact, this list should be no more than
    three or four bullet items. 

  4.  A basic form letter.  As much as I like to write my own text, I
    realize that there isn't always time to do this.  Sending a form letter
    is 1000X better than no letter at all.  

To submit a message to the landuse mailing list, email to: 

                    landuse@hposl42.cup.hp.com 

If you know of someone that would like to join the list, have them send
email to: 
                 landuse-request@hposl42.cup.hp.com

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: winter riding - was MX racing questions 
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:48:14 GMT

In <1992Aug17.072253.15810@eua.ericsson.se> trsajo@eua.ericsson.se (Anders.Johansson) writes:

>wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman) writes:


>>Hi guys and gals,

>>I've been reading this group for a few a months, but
>>this is my first post.

>>Only 4 more months til I can get my kx500 out on the ice and have
>>some real fun! Any other ice racers out there? 


>Yes indeed! I hope the next winter will be colder and whiter than 
>the last though... Then, in December or January it will be time to
>put the spike-tyres back on the KDX 200 again!

>Really, winter is the best season for riding a bike! 
>Lots of soft white snow everywhere, GOOD traction, and quite a few
>snowmobile-paths to explore too (Yes, I know, the snowmobilers get furious,
>but what the heck?).

I'd like to hear more about your winter riding, especially the set up
of the bike and tires. 

Do you use full spikes ie. 3cm long?. Do you spike them yourself?

Over here we use special screws which resemble sheet metal screws
and are 1.25 to 2.0 inches long (sorry about mixing metric and imperial)
but only the slotted hexagonal head of the screw protrudes from the tire.  
Up to three street tires with their sidewalls removed are inserted in the
tire before studding.

A few acquaintances of mine go trail riding, but due to the expense and
the time involved in making a tire that sticks to the ice, I haven't tried
it. Does sound like fun though. 

The bikes are lowered down and some of the guys steepen the steering angle.
I expect the geometry changes are similar to those George C. made to his
CR500RR for road racing.

Do you go out to see any of the full spike racing series? Seems to me 
that I heard that a Swiss competitor won the championship in recent years.
Usually dominated by Russians isn't it? A Canadian racer by the name of John
Cornwell made into the finals a couple of years ago, this was apparently
quite a feat for his first year in that type of racing.

I will be racing in the Canadian National ice racing series this winter
and will post the schedule (canadian distribution) once it is announced
in case any in the area wants to check it out. 

Russell Wardman 


>Anders Johansson, Telia Research, Sundsvall, Sweden.
-- 
**         Russell Wardman         **      Gandalf Data Limited        **
**        Hardware Designer        **     Nepean, Ontario Canada       **
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From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: MX racing question
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:32:17 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2



   Ted; What you are experiencing is what is called ARM PUMP.
This is a very common problem, and happens mostly when you are
nervous or really psyched up.

    There isn't a way to prevent this from happening all the time. It
is the type of problem that will either occur or not, depending on
certain conditions while riding. I personally don't experience ARM
PUMP unless I'm racing. I can ride practice all day under the most
grueling conditions, but not feel a thing. But then while racing It
could take two laps and my arms are shot.

    If you do experience this problem again, just raise your arms to head
level
like your being told to "Stick em up". This will help alleviate the
problem
for the  the moment but don't expect it to prevent it.

   
    Another thing I do is use those hand squeezers that you can buy
at any sporting goods store. They don't always work but they do help.



    Good Luck and Good Riding 

                    Ken Ferguson
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: info from a paramedic was:trak in Tx
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:01:25 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <1992Aug14.155442.29407@rtsg.mot.com>, dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne) writes:
> In article <1992Aug10.072003.585@skitzo.dseg.ti.com> frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:
>>   If you're on a track frenzy we have five others in the immediate
>>   area, two general offroad parks and lots of hidden practice tracks. 8-}
> 
>     Wow!  When I lived in Dallas, I can't remember more than a couple
>     tracks in the area.  'Course, I didn't have a Real Dirt Bike (tm)
>     then...  hope to find some of those hidden practice areas.

   I took wife and kid to Mosier Valley Friday night.  Jared (just 3yrs)
   was estatic.  I wont have any problem getting him on a PW50.  As for
   the wife she wont go to the races unless "I'M NOT IN IT!".  I was
   thankful that there were no crashes in the Over 30 class would provoke
   further harrasment from the spouse section.  There were 11 riders in
   O/30 open and only half were doing the supercross obsticles.  It would
   have been a good night to race.

   I had the chance to talk to a paramedic who was working a section by
   radio and got some feedback that most of us never hear.

   I asked what local tracks yielded the most injuries.  Starting with
   the greatest she listed.... Swan, Kings, Wolfcreek, Burleson, Mosier
   (day track), Lake Whittney.  She said she did not like to work Kings
   in particular and that it was too unsafe.

   The radio broke and I was amazed that the other paramedics were 
   taking bets on the 125 beginner class that was underway, on who
   would be the first to crash.  I thought of how many times I may
   have been bet on when I rode that class.

   I then asked what were usually the classes with the least injuries
   starting with the safest..... 50, 60, O/30, Expert classes and the
   rest are mixed. 
_____________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton (RM)             |  "Friends don't let friends ride S****i."
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |  "Life is short, ride hard."
                               |  "Born and Bred to Rip and Shred."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Subject: Watkins Glen WCTrial
Reply-To: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:50:46 GMT



Labor Day Weekend. World Championship Trials and Trials de Nation. 

Watkins Glen, New York.

Anybody besides me going????

These guys are magicians - be there.


-- 
Go fast. Take chances.

	Mike S.
From: trsajo@eua.ericsson.se (Anders.Johansson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: MX racing question
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:22:53 GMT
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman) writes:

>In <11551@cis.rand.org> Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson) writes:


>>   Ted; What you are experiencing is what is called ARM PUMP.
>>This is a very common problem, and happens mostly when you are
>>nervous or really psyched up.

I've heard this occurs due to an incorrect riding-style, ie using only
your arms to keep you on the bike, instead of using your legs and knees
as well.

.
.
.


>Hi guys and gals,

>I've been reading this group for a few a months, but
>this is my first post.

>Only 4 more months til I can get my kx500 out on the ice and have
>some real fun! Any other ice racers out there? 


Yes indeed! I hope the next winter will be colder and whiter than 
the last though... Then, in December or January it will be time to
put the spike-tyres back on the KDX 200 again!

Really, winter is the best season for riding a bike! 
Lots of soft white snow everywhere, GOOD traction, and quite a few
snowmobile-paths to explore too (Yes, I know, the snowmobilers get furious,
but what the heck?).


>Russell Wardman

> 
>-- 
>**         Russell Wardman         **      Gandalf Data Limited        **
>**        Hardware Designer        **     Nepean, Ontario Canada       **
>**    Network Components Group     **          613-723-6500            **
>**  (rwardman@hobbit.gandalf.ca)   **                                  **



Anders Johansson, Telia Research, Sundsvall, Sweden.
From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Muzzy vs. Fiamms
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:07:04 GMT
	<1992Aug20.152719.18751@isc-br.isc-br.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,
steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
> Sorry, but there's a _big_ difference between attracting the attention
> of a daydreaming cager and polluting the environment with noise on a
> constant basis.  
> Ride quiet.  It makes for friends for motorcyclists.

And there is a _big_ difference between riding a bike that you can't
hear working and a bike that thrills your soul with its music.

Ride louder, it makes for a more enjoyable ride.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: grendel@canetoad.UUCP (Rage y Romance)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cager penile size (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:49:17 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

In article <1992Aug19.165423.7190@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ksmith@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Kevin Smith) writes:
>In article <Bt3FJt.Gz0@gtsi.com> rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:

>..pass him. A little right hand did the trick and I was outta' there. Didn't
>stop him from flipping me off as he passed me (eventually).
>  
>...action every time I tried to get by, with a subsuquent dirty look 
when I finally got by.

>Does this happen a lot or does Cleveland, the only city where it's _your_
>fault for being in someone's blind spot when they almost kill you and your
>girlfriend, just suck? 

No. Misery loves company. Their stuck in traffic, watching you make great
time and thinking of all the times bad motorcycle riders have screwed them
over and figure they'll make your life as shitty as their's.
--

"So I'm minding my own business...no, really. | ...uunet!canetoad!grendel
 And I see him, the HIM in big impressive     | canetoad!grendel@uunet.uu.net
 letters. And he owns me, I mean the way      |
 pigeons own N.Y...damn I'm had again."       |
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MC license for scooter in your jurisdiction?
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:26:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Aug18.012058.26118@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>
>	A question for y'all:
>
>	Do *you* need a MC license to ride a scooter in the state/province/	
>	county/etc where you live ?

	In Colorado, any driver's license holder can ride what they term 
	"motorized bicycles (mo-peds)."  I think scooters are included in this
	category as long as they are 50 cc's.

	In Japan, where there are eleven classificasions of driver's license, 
	two-wheel vehicles which are under 50 cc's are also called motorized
	bicycles and you can drive them if you have any of eleven licenses 
	except the one called "small special vehicle class" with which you can
	*drive* little tiny combine harvesters and other small agricultural 
	machineries on the street.

	BTW, MC licenses are subcategorized into three classes in Japan; small
	(51-125 cc), middle (126-400 cc), and large (401 cc over).  You can 
	take small and middle classes at driving school (costs you US$500-700!!)	but you have to pass a *VERY* difficult performance test to get the 
	large class license.  It costs you about US$30 each time you take a 
	test.  I myself passed on the twelfth test when I was in college. :)

	Is there any other place where you have this complicated and money
	consuming MC license tests?


						Tetsuya Nishimura

						Kawasaki KZ750E (in US)
						Kawasaki GPz750F (in Japan)
From: ba08034@bingsune.cc.binghamton.edu (Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:42:54 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton

>>hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>>> 
>>>         What would YOU do ?

I have found that this is a great use for old spark plugs, and keep 2 or 3
wedged between my speedo and tach at all times.  Make a hell of a mess 
out of a hood or windsheild at 55

--Curt
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Going into the closet
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:55:41 GMT
Expires: 31 Aug 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Aug13.191754.27702@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>Hey yo, learn to READ.  I have sent two letters to the KotL.  I dont
>know if he is reading his E-mail or not.  Oh never mind, I see
>you are from Bedford.

EEEEEEhhhhhh...wuzzat suposed to mean?!  Is there something in the water here?
Granted it smells a little funny 8-P.  Is there something that me, Tod, Paul,
Dean, Art, Rosann (and some unnamed lurkers) have in common that we don't
know about but maybe should?


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[  This Space For Rent       ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jyri@faline..bellcore.com (Jyri Virkki)
Subject: Re: How do you get your way in traffic?
Reply-To: jyri@faline.UUCP (Jyri Virkki)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 02:52:48 GMT

In article <1064@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com> meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>
>It was disgusting, but I had to drive my cage into work the other day
>because it needed some work done.  As I was trying to merge in to a
>lane, this "lady" cut me off ... I thought "shit this never happens
>when I ride the bike".  But then it happened the next day, another
>asshole (and 30 feet later I can get in the HOV lane, ha ha).  So
>there's gotta be something I can do rather than just wimp out, without
>getting killed or "tarnishing" our image.
>
>	1) A bat came to mind, but I haven't figured out how to carry
>	   it.

>[...]

	n) A small piece of ceramic. Easy to carry and use...


Jyri J. Virkki - Bellcore, Morristown, NJ - jyri@thumper.bellcore.com - DoD#561
(201) 829-4213 - jyri@rummat3.upr.clu.edu - jyri@rmece47.upr.clu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: darell@island.COM (Darell Dickey)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Fiamms...
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:49:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.043907.16268@panix.com> bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>Hey, folks, Fiamms, as with most horns, are _tunable_ ! When
>my single, "low" note Fiamm starts to sound wimpy or "honk"
>instead of "bellow" I know that the adjustment bolt has
>vibrated out of tune again. This may be the reason behind
>those quiet horns.
>
>BTW, using a single horn is a great idea for those of us
>who's bikes cannot handle the amperage load from two horns,
>especially used as oftenas NYC traffic demands. I'm blasting
>the horn about 10 times a day, sometimes for 5~10 seconds at
>a time. It really does wear my battery, but it scares those
>dumb cages!
>

You are right, of course, about them being tunable.  However, my
brand new horn came with a BIG sploodge of silicone that covers
the adjustment screw.  The multi-language blurb sheet that came
with it says that it has been tuned at the factory.

To clear up an confusion:  The horn does not sound wimpy.  It simply
is not *lounder* than my stock horn that sounds like a VW horn.  It
has more authority, but I'm looking for more volume and can't fit
more than one horn.  The single Fiamm "bellows"... it just doesn't do it
loud enough to justify the expense/weight/size/hassle for my application.

I do appreciate everyone's responses (both posted and emailed) though.

Thanks,

-- 
Darell Dickey
(darell@island.com)
	I meant what I said, I probably just didn't say it right.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Fiamms...
    <1992Aug11.131056.18108@ms.uky.edu> <1992Aug11.203831.16585@novell.com> 
    <1992Aug12.213400.6460@island.COM> 
    <1992Aug12.233230.19171@javelin.sim.es.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:22:40 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

On finding the elusive Fiamm horns:
They are available from any motorcycle shop in the country that is willing to
order them from KK or Nichols or Tucker/Rocky (which are 3 of THE largest
motorcycle parts distributors in the nation). Dealer cost on them is appx.
$20 US.
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Driving not riding
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:42:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
: i rode with you to the rcr, and my observations of your speeds (when i wasn't
: busy travelling sideways) would not support your above statement.
: or maybe you meant: "only when i'm not on my bike"

   Hey, my bike may be slow but it has terrible range! :-)
Actually, I have to admit that usually if I'm on the Interstate I'm in a *cage*.
Mainly that has to do with the fact that I'm usually hauling anywhere from 2
to four female passengers, and the fact that the Virago is not a highway cruiser.
As the old .sig said "it gets me there".
--

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