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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Help setup modem
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:40:38 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Distribution: comp
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <TB1153.93Jan24175105@thor.albany.edu>, BEIDEL TIMOTHY writes:

>1. What cable should be used to connect the 25-pin "modem" port
>   to the external Hayes-compatible modem?

Just a standard RS232C one.

>2. Is there shareware that can enable him to emulate a VT100
>   and use Kermit protocol?

Yup, Uniterm, available on 
chsun.chuug.ch    /archive/software/atari/Uniterm/
 any probs, contact the author  poole@chuug.ch

Or CoNNect available on
atari.archive.umich.edu  /atari/Telecomm/         USA
or ftp.uni-kl.de  /pub/atari/Telecom/             Germany
 the author is for this is here, he reads this newsgroup.

>3. Where to find good shareware.

  anon ftp site             (problems? contact)
----------------------    ----------------------------
atari.archive.umich.edu  (weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu)   USA 
ftp.tu-clausthal.de      (BWWL@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de   )   Germany

atari.archive is mirrored in the UK somewhere, can't remember the
 name off hand though.

>He has a double-sided 3.5 inch disk drive, which I assume is 720K.
>A user in the Netherlands tells me that the machine could probably
>read IBM formatted disks (since I will have to download it and
>get it to him somehow).

That is true.  For him to format it, depending on which version of 
 TOS in his ST he has, he may need to use a special format program,
 on other ST's, just format from the desktop.  If it's formatted on
 the IBM then passed onto the ST it will be read in no problems at all.

 Craig.

-- 
* Craig Shore.  Phone (Voice) +64 3 3852501  * 
*  Email:craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz  or  shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz  *
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR: Knowing What To Do
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:27:20 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <C17wC1.CEA@news.rich.bnr.ca> grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier) writes:
>
>Another neat trick that works is format a small partition, under 5 meg,
>of your HD as an MFS( not HFS ) partition. Transverter can use this HD
>partition as well as the 400k Spectre format floppy. This turns the
>tranverter into something really usefull.

  Forgive me if I answer my own question, but how do you format a HD
partition in MFS mode?  Going to the format option under Spectre 2.65,
thr MFS box is greyed-out.  Was this option added later (in say 3.0) or
is something just screwy with my setup?  BTW I'm on a MegaSTe/TOS2.05 if
that matters any.  Any help would be appreciated (transverting to HD
directly would be a LOT nicer, especially with some of those files
(like a Wizardry-type clone) that are 1 meg in HQX/SIT format (just a *bit*
too big to fit on a 800k disk)...

				Robert Anisko
				anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

"there's nothing sure in Life but Death and Texas..." - Kelly Bundy
From: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon's sighted in USA
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:12:05 GMT
Reply-To: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC

In article <1jnds6INNil7@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> tbrown@cis.ohio-state.edu (ted croft brown) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.012029.18482@wam.umd.edu> cmedley@wam.umd.edu (Flip) writes:
>>
>>Toad Computers in Severna Park, MD, has four Falcons but I didn't get to see
>>the actual CPUs.  The boxes were sitting right out in front of their sales
>>desk and one box contained two "engineer's samples" and the other box had no
>>distinctive markings to differentiate it from a production model....
>>
>
>I would be more heartened by this if the same thing hadn't happened at 
>WAACE.  Atari, for some strange reason, had some Falcons which were
>distributed to some developers and taken elsewhere by Reebok sent and
>stored at Toad for the week before WAACE.  Toad had the Falcon030 boxes
>in plain sight all through WACCE but they weren't TOAD's and they weren't 
>for sale.  In fact I heard the Toad guy uh...the best term is "whining" to
>Bill Reebok that they ought to be able to keep one of them.  Since some of
>them were marked samples, this might just be the same sort of thing.
>
>Did you ask if they were for sale? 
>

I visited Toad Computers on Saturday and asked about the Falcons.  The
lady working the store at the time (Jennifer?) told me thay have not
received any Falcons to resell yet let alone any demonstration models
from Atari.  She went on to say that they set up a Falcon every
Thursday (?) but that it's borrowed from some individual.

-- 
Marshall Lake
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: richard@op.ph.ic.ac.uk (Richard Syratt )
Subject: Re: Fantasy Games
Keywords: rpg
Organization: Imperial College, London University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:36:27 GMT
X-Posted-From: op.ph.ic.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <wmtwen.727449117@rw8.urc.tue.nl>, wmtwen@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Erlend Nagel) writes:
|> cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:
|> 
|> >I just finished Omega a few weeks ago...  It's a characters-only
|> >fantasy-oriented game, like NetHack.  Way cool...
|> FINISHED Omegaaaaaaa???!!!?????
|> Surely you have not become Guild Master of all the guilds yet?
|> At least it can't be done with just one character, you will need to play
|> the game at least twice or so.
|> And did you do it with or without deleting dungeonlevel files?
|> Without it is near to impossible to finish Omega within 40 years.
|> But Omega is really really a wonderful game to play. Too bad no new
|> versions of Omega are made (well Hildo Biersma still fixes bugs of
|> course, but the original creator of Omega no longer develops Omega)
|> 
|> Erlend.


I had a look at Omega last night, quite a long look...  It's wonderful,
the most involved RPGish game I've seen.  I reckon it's better than
the ultima.

I don't think I'll thank you guys for bringing it to my attention, I've
got a thesis to write and a job to find and ... :-(

Richard

p.s. Anyone got any info on the different deities - spells etc., or do
I have to find this out as I go along?
From: annmarie.scott@p2.f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (AnnMarie Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Stalker vs Uniterm!
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:00:04 GMT

Original to: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
On <18.01.00>, a small alien, wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (3:713/602),
bleeped :

 ws> $40, is still, $40 - Uniterm, unless you register, costs nothing!

The old adage "You get what you pay for" cannot be truer..

~/Kerick

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From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FALCON is DEAD!
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:34:57 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

AL RASHID SHAHIR (alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
OS/2> In article <9301204372@ritz.mordor.com> ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
OS/2> >AL RASHID SHAHIR (alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
OS/2> >
OS/2> >OS/2> Oh yes, you say the future is in IBM? Fat chance from a 
OS/2> >OS/2> company just about to fold!!!
OS/2> >
OS/2> >Bahahahahaha!  IBM is the largest computer manufacturer in the
OS/2> >world.  It is so entertaining hearing a user of Atari products
OS/2> >predicting the "fold"ing of IBM.  I think I'm going to have to put
OS/2> >that one in my .sig.
OS/2> >
OS/2> Largest computer manufacturer in the world? Hmm, could you tell me where you
OS/2> got that interesting snippet of info? Do you use an "IBM" product? (NOT a 
OS/2> compatible) In fact, isn't it true that compatible makers pay nothing to IBM?
OS/2> (Or at least, next to nothing - but I'm pretty sure it's nothing) As for its
OS/2> "folding", have you seen the losses IBM are taking? They're RISC market is 
OS/2> close to dead. They're PC market is so bad, they had to release a "pure 
OS/2> compatible" (ie Ambra). They had to lose x hundred thousand jobs all over the
OS/2> world just recently. Why don't you put all this into your .sig? Then again,
OS/2> its pretty entertaining to see a "compatible" user who doesn't even know the
OS/2> current business status of the company that he's supposedly supporting!

Listen, pal, I know exactly what's going on at IBM.  The pc business is
a small slice of IBM's total business.  They still make the vast majority
of their money making/supporting mainframe and minicomputers.  If they
never sold another PC product they could still remain in business.

However, IBM has realized that the mainframe market is dwindling and
that they would like to become more competetive in the PC market.
So they laid off people and took an operating loss.  Big deal.  Why
don't you check and see how many public companies have taken big
operating losses and are still around.  Big Blue is still
AA rated by Standard and Poors and they have virtually no debt.
They have been paying out a 10.5% yield on the stock and they
have very deep pockets.  I'm hoping that IBM will cut the dividend
to 0% and use that money for R&D.  I think that after they lumber
around for a few quarters, IBM will get its act together and 
their stock will start to appreciate again.  I think its a damn
good buy at $46.  The book value of the company is between
$60-70/share.

Anyway, what does this have to do with Atari?  Absolutely nothing.
If you want to continue this debate, I invite you to do so by
email or in comp.os.os2.advocacy.

Cheers,

Chris
--
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ritz@ritz.mordor.com                | company since I own the company.
{backbone}!rutgers!spcvxb!ritz!ritz | Ritz International, Inc.
OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2  | Import/Export Consultants
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Canadian support was: Re: RFD: What to do
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:38:10 GMT

In article AA01135@contrast.wlink.nl, qsi@contrast.wlink.nl (Peter Kocourek) writes:

>
>...  Students at universities in the States can get a IIci
>nowadays for less $1300; that's a 25 MHz 68030/68882, plus usual Mac
>goodies thrown in for good measure. ...

Yo Peter!  You think I could enroll in "Joe's Bartender University" so I could
qualify for one of those $1300 IIci's?  :)  Seriously, are student discounts
really _this_ good?  What confiuguration is such a machine?  No hard drive, no
keyboard and minimal RAM?
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From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Serial Ports (was ADVOCACY: Convince me to stick with Atari.)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 23:32:59 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

moffatd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Darren Moffat) writes:

> I think you will find that RS stands for Radio Spares
> which is a large Components company. 
                  ^overpriced

For the humour impaired: :-) :-)
From: moffatd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Darren Moffat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Serial Ports (was ADVOCACY: Convince me to stick with Atari.)
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:51:32 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

rossin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ted Rossin) writes:

>RS232 is not a standard! Ever wonder what RS stands for:

>			Recommended Standard.

I think you will find that RS stands for Radio Spares
which is a large Components company. 

-- 


Darren J Moffat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: y0000028@rzab0.rz.tu-bs.de (Kielhorn)
Subject: Re: Profibuch (was Julian Reschke involved...)
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: TU-Braunschweig 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:58:22 GMT

Sorry about my last post!

It was truncated because I was trying to suggest something illegal.

Axel Kielhorn
From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hexmines v1.2
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:12:36 GMT
Reply-To: Ralph.Sobek@cerfacs.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
In-reply-to: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr's message of 15 Jan 93 14:23:18 GMT

>>>>> On 15 Jan 93 14:23:18 GMT, doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne
>>>>> Doucet) said:

JED> To all other people: it's a mine sweeping game on a hexagonal
JED> grid; try it only if you have a color monitor.

Always looking forward to an update to a *good* game, but when comes
out the version for monochrome monitors?  ;-{ Without the definition
of a Falcon I do not yet see the need for a multisync ;-)

Keep up the good work!

--
Dr. Ralph P. Sobek		  Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own.
Ralph.Sobek@cerfacs.fr			   Addresses are ordered by importance.
ralph@cerfacs.fr					If all else fails, try:
Telephone: (+33) 61-19-30-47			      sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU
FAX:	   (+33) 61-19-30-00
===============================================================================
Got a rejuvenated Mega 4ST with TOS 2.06! Do I *really* want a Falcon/Next/Sun?
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotry
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:33:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Craig Shore writes:


>As I said, I haven't seen any PC only users here, they're duel users (they
> have both) and they're maily defending the PC against lies.

That's an interesting comment..!
 
People who own just PCs have far better things to do with their
time and computers than come here and try to evangalize Atari
owners...
 
They do things like Desktop Publishing, Word Processing, Graphics
and Music, Business Applications, and even Games, on their PCs...

If you read any of the PC newsgroups, you find people who are
busily and happily using their computers, instead of fighting
over the remains of a dead software company, or trying their
best to defend the bizzare business practices of the company that
manufactures their computer.  (Or discussing how great it will
be.. someday.. when the new  _________ computer is finally
released... someday... )
 
PC owners don't much care about the Atari world.. if they even
know it exists...
 
It's Atari owners who exist in more than just the "Atari ghetto"
who seem to rub the "Atari religious" the wrong way...
 
"The Truth" is not welcome here...

BobR
From: gert@targon.UUCP (Gert Kanis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: minix (was Re: Any caveats?)
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:25:11 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informatiesystemen BV,dep.SWZ,Postbus 29, 4130 EA Vianen,The Netherlands

In article <H.ea.RhyJqajwMls@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>
	cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca writes:
>In <1jga18INNioi@nanette.sto.pdb.sni.de>, Dr.Savory writes:
>> Put MINIX on your ST. Then you can play at UNIX (aka LINUX) without
>> having to buy an intel chip.
>
>Is the ST version of Minix limited the same way the PC version is?  It's
>stuck with a max size of 64k for executables (bleh!)...
>
No, this restriction applies only to the original Intel (PC) version of Minix.
The author (A.Tanenbaum) insists on keeping Minix compatible to those poor
8086 PC's (which may be right because that version of Minix was sold the most).
On the 68000 version of Minix your physical memory is the limit :-)

>Minix is a cool thing...  You get a unix-like OS (pretty damn close!)
>with full source code and whatnot, for about $100 (if memory serves).
>
I think the current (1.5) version is $170. It has grown a lot though.
--
Gert Kanis, AP SWZ                              +----------------------+
Siemens Nixdorf Information systems             | I do not represent   |
P.O.box 29,  4130 EA Vianen, Netherlands.       | anyone elses opinion.|
E-mail: outside Europe: kanis.via@sni-usa.com   +----------------------+
Europe: gert@targon.UUCP  Alternative: kanis.via@sni.de
From: mcsdc1ph@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Right!  More Picture Conversion stuff!
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:52:56 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology


Hokay, first I asked for a program to convert IFF's and GIFs to ST/e.

I got Photochrome 3.

Excellent utility.


Now, is there a program out there to do the reverse, i.e. convert SP?, PCS
pictures (ie. spectrum 512/4096 and photochrome 19200/32768 col pics) to
The Amobeas IFF?

There had better be, as a certain Amobea owning friend of mine is getting
paranoid, thinking that STE is a greedy machine who only takes, and doesen't
give!

Thanks in advance for any help given....

Feekzoid
From: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: CANNON BJ-5
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:57:08 GMT
Organization: ASTRAsoft, Stoke-On-Trent England.

I don't know about the BJ-5, but I bought a BJ-10e last year and it's one of the
best investments I've made... with the exception of my Mega STe of course! :-)

There is sometimes a very sligh problem with line overlap, just like conventional
24-pin printers, but in 48-pin mode the quality if absolutely superb... The ink
soaks into the paper JUST slightly so it has an aliasing effect you don't get on
lasers so lines look smoother.

I use it with the BJ-100 (I think) driver in Calamus 1.09 and though I haven't
seen the output of a DeskJet I'd have to be REALLY impressed to beat the BJ.

One BJ-10e devoted writer!

David.
                                                                   .___ .
David Oakley, ASTRAsoft shareware producers for the ST            //_ //|
6 Watlands Rd   | "I was in love, once. A ZX81. People said,      || || |
Bignall End     | 'No, Holly, she's not for you.' She was cheap,  || || /\_
Stoke On Trent  | stupid and wouldn't load - at least not for   _/|| ||\_/ |
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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: NEWSFLASH : FALCON RELEASED
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:54:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lmvec@westminster.ac.uk (William Hargreaves) says:

>stigvi@Lise.Unit.NO (Stig Vidar Hovland) writes:
>: In article <jorngh.366.727480750@dhhalden.no>, jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN) writes:
>:  > 
>:  > Yeah, you read right ! Two Falcons were actually released
>:  > in UK yesterday, it was supposed to be three but one machine
>:  > was D.O.A. The UK Atari manager was nevertheless pleased and
>:  > stated that this proves Atari's dedication to the market. He
>:  > also gave hopes of five (yes five !) new machines in the next
>:  > few months, and an additional 30 (!) cute beasts if he managed
>:  > to sell his flat in south London. The production barracks in
>:  > Iraq is currently working in high gear too keep up with the
>:    ^^^^ 
>:  > demands.
>:  > 
>:  > And a last thing, this is a rumour. It may not be entirely true.
>:  > 
>: 
>: If UN and USA could stop bombing these barracks, we probably would see
>: more Falcons in the (near) future.
>: 
>: Stig Vidar Hovland - stigvi@lise.unit.no
>
>In that case, BOMBS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I ___HEARD___ that the factory that the United Nations thought were making
nuclear weapons were ACTUALLY making Falcon030 computers.

Since it was targeted by the U.S. and DESTROYED, we will have to wait
another six months for Falcons.

I believe I heard a represenative from Iraq saying that they will "rebuild"
this factory, however.

So, at least there is some good news.

>
>Will
>

-- 
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: church@fraser.sfu.ca (Mike James Church)
Subject: Word Processor Question (Wierd, Sorry)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:19:59 GMT

This is kinda wierd, but - here I go.

There is a program on IBM PC's called pfs: Professional Write.
Nothing special, but for one attribute:  It has a "drawing mode" where
the ASCII Line Drawing Character Set is "painted" onto the screen with
the cursor.  You just choose the line style (Single or Double) and it
places the appropriate characters on the screen.  This is great for
tables.

What makes this unusual is that I am WELL AWARE that there are better
ways to do tables and graphics that the 1979 (?) IBM line drawing
standard.  However, my father switches regularly between his PC at
work and his Atari at home, and this method ACTUALLY WORKS FOR HIM!!!

He doesn't want nor need anything else.  So what do I want?

Is there a program like this for the ST?  He'd like to be able to
"paint" at home as well.  Just a simple ASCII text editor that has
a similar mode.

Flames are not supported, nor appreciated.  He can't afford a laser 
printer, and I'm just being kind.

The ever unselfless,
    _______                                  
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From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Winnipg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Message for JON CLARKE.NZ
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:12:13 GMT
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Send me your net address.
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcons made in Iraq?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:44:15 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

In <1993Jan27.002824.26821@nosc.mil> healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy) writes:

>Oh, I'm afraid you have been misinformed. They're being made in Libya :-)

That's quite true. And the Falcons  have  been  stockpiled  there
until  recently. Then, Atari decided to ship them on supertankers
throughout the world, for reasons of cost effectivity  since  the
quantities  were  so  large. Unfortunately, two of the shops have
gone wreck, hence the worldwide shortage...

:-)

Greetinx, Jan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: S112397@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: Re: All these wars...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:47:54 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla




>>****************** CREATE comp.sys.atari.st.advocacy NOW ********************

>You know, not to start flame wars about the solutions to flame wars, but
>this strikes me as a very bureaucratic notion:
>
>     "Throw more [money|time|oranges|newsgroups|bullshit] at the problem
>     and it'll go away!"
>
>I guess if it's the only way to solve the problem...  But that's sad, y'know?
>
>
>
>--
>Elric
>Chris  Dotson - elric@mik.uky.edu
>
>"If it ain't broke - mess with it until it is.  Then fix it."    -Me
Who says it's a problem.  Flame wars are fun, there just happening in the
wrong place.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st