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From: Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: BASE jumping
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:01:28 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I'm posting this on behalf of someone who's having trouble posting...

Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: BASE Jumping
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Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
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     I would like to start my introducing myself.  My name is Martin Stack
I am an Electrical Engineering student at the University of MO - Rolla. I
started skydiving in May of this year and have enjoyed it a lot.  Any Rate,
I started reading this list sometime ago.  I am starting to get into Base
jumping.  I will make my FIRST base jump at the New River Bridge during
Bridge Day, weekend after next.  AND YES, I will buy my CASE of BEER for
the road trip to Virginia.
    I am interested in any literature about Base jumping that I can get my
jump'n hands on.  If anyone had been to the bridge, I would be interested
in talking to you about your experiences.  I am also interested in getting
my jump filmed, any suggestions.  Thanks for the info in advance.



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From: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt)
Subject: Re: Malfunction Rate Poll (was: RE: number of jumps)
Reply-To: belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt)
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:48:36 GMT

In article <16067@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
(Charlie Gibbs) writes:

   In article <BvpzJK.8HI@virtech.uucp> mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
   writes:

   >free-packing (no bag or line stows!), or just no line stows.  
   >A fella I used to know jumped one of these.  I believe it's nickname
   >was the "coil of death."

	Someone we knew bounced from this.  The lines got tangled
   around one of the container flaps and the resulting horseshoe ate
   the reserve.  Everyone stopped free-stowing after that.

   Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca "I'm cursed with hair from HELL!"  --
   Night Court

Someone I know bounced and lived in exactly that way -- one line
around a container flap, looked like a spinning 'function, chopped it,
stayed attached, reserve fired into the mess... lived through it, and
still jumps. Lucky guy.

Only 3 years ago.

He doesn't freepack anymore though!

Moral of the story: Don't freepack -- it might work 500 times, but one
time it's really going to screw you up!

Barry
ps. Three weeks 'til the cast is off. Sigh. And all this nice clear
fall weather! At least I'm saving money!



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From: schut@prl.philips.nl (Schut G)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Canopies
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:57:51 GMT
Organization: none

I'm looking for a new canopy, but I'm not yet ready for a Sabre (85 jumps
is a little early to start thinking about a high performance canopy, 
I think).
Currently I'm jumping a worn Raven 3, which gives me plenty of exercise
when the spot is bad (:-), but it still gets me down safely enough, allthough
some people say I should replace it within the next 100 jumps or so.
So far I've jumped a Robo Z and it seemed ok, but I heard some negative
stories about them (hard openings) and it's a bit expensive for what you
get for that kind of money. At the moment I'm considering a Falcon. 
Anybody any comments on or experience with this canopy? What other
canopies would be worthwile to consider as well?

BTW, what's root beer (apart from drinkable)?

                        (me, someday)
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From: glennc@remote_fe.Aus.Sun.COM (Glenn Connelly)
Subject: Skies Call
Reply-To: glennc@remote_fe.Aus.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 09:49:08 GMT

My copy of Skies Call 1 was there before the party......... 

I want to replace it, but DZ shops queried say it's out of print.
Can anyone sell me one? new or used; I bet there's a few lying around under someone's old B4 harness, wedged between the PC Mk1 and the baggy suit <<horror of horrors!>>

On the subject: Skies Call 2 has a photo by Jerry Irwin <<#113>>; it is of a dude at line-stretch REAL LOW over a DC3. My guess is that the photo was taken on a long lens, and that the jumper was not as low as it seems. Does anyone know the REAL story? <<who, where and when>>. People always comment "I wonder if he made it?" ..... It would be nice to know.

Glenn......

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From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Re: Fast King Air
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:37:02 GMT

In article <1214.2AD91633@ehsnet.fidonet.org>
  SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE) writes:
> r> About the WFF report not mentioning the owner of "The 
> r> Fast Climbing King Air":
> r> It looks like USPA is negatively discriminating against Mike Mullins,
>
>Yeah, but now there's a little competition too.  Larry Hill has put the big
>engines on his King Air also.

Say what?  I'm almost certain that the Westwind engines were moved to the
*Otter*, not the King Air.  Even without the new engines, the Otter was far
more popular than the Eloy King Air, the last time I was there.  With 'em,
it's about the nicest general purpose midrange jumpship there is, bar none.

Or has the King Air been upgraded as well as the Otter?

Speaking for myself, I'm not all that concerned if it takes 7 minutes to
climb to altitude, or 11.  They are both functionally equivalent numbers to
me.  The next criterion would be things like comfort in the cabin, (noise,
width and height of the cabin), door size and ease of use, floater bars
and/or lots of handles, speed at jump run, and tail geometry (!).  On just
about all of these things, the Otter has a significant advantage.  The King
Air has raw speed, period.  A hot King Air sounds like a great machine for
high altitude jumping, but for day-to-day jumping I'd prefer to ride an
Otter.

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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:17:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.103526.6657@devvax.mincom.oz.au> peterl@devvax.mincom.oz.au writes:
>Funnily
>enough there are camera-people around that exit with their camera off!!!

One camerman here is somewhat notorious for screwing up and not actually 
taped.. He once turned his cmera *off* because there was a glare and he
couldn't see the LED. Or so he says. He always has some excuse..

>       Fluro

Tim

Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: Hidden Message and general babble
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 02:03:47 GMT

*ARGH* so the video is shipping Friday. Definitely.

The Dollar Daze video *is* underway.

And, LICK ME is visible, just no dedicated shot. Robert assured me there
are lots of things I missed so you'll need to watch this tape over and over :-)

Cheers!
Tim
From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Number of jumps
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:11:00 GMT

Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
Fido-To: romulus!glacier.stanford.edu!king

 r>         Harry Evans at Hollister says he's had NO malfunctions on his
 r>         personal gear in fourteen years.  With over 3000 jumps total,
 r>         that's saying something.  He's jumped the same old rag about 
 r>         2000 times and just packs it the same every time and makes
 r>         SURE the lines are straight.  But that man can pack FAST!

Ahhh.  A man after my own heart.  With 2250 and counting, no malfunctions, and i've got my packing down to 5 minutes if it all goes smoothly, 6 if it doesn't, we should get together and compare notes.

Bill Caefer
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From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Doug Puchalski)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Malfunction Rate Poll (was: RE: number of jumps)
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:26:36 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <BELBOZ.92Oct7094836@hoe.frc.ri.cmu.edu>, belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry Brumitt) writes:

>Someone I know bounced and lived in exactly that way -- one line
>around a container flap, looked like a spinning 'function, chopped it,
>stayed attached, reserve fired into the mess... lived through it, and
>still jumps. Lucky guy.
>

Damnit Barry!  Give us the whole story!  Sounds like a good one.

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From: bonitz@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Bob Bonitz)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: malfunctions
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:44:36 GMT
Organization: UC Davis  Robotics Research Lab

In article <23812@alice.att.com> kroon@alice.att.com (Peter Kroon) writes:
}
}of 1000 average. The other interesting fact was that I had the 2 mals
}on the same day. On different rigs though. Both malfunctions were line
}over, and were not clearable. Both of them were packing errors, and the
}

How did you determine that they were packing errors and what were the 
packing errors?
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Setting DYTERS
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:57:06 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1199.2AD91591@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE) writes:
>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>Fido-To: romulus!leland.stanford.edu!eap
>
> r> I was thinking of setting my DYTTER for "reserve time". IE: When an
> r> AAD would fire (A cypres, maybe).  I would set it at 900ft, to
> r> warn me "If you ain't got something good over your head RIGHT NOW,
> r> the chop it and go for the reserve, STUPID!".  
>
> r> Any takers?
>
>Kinda low.  While I would set an AAD for 900, I would set the Dytter for something more reasonable (reaction time wise) like 1500.

I agree, since 1500 would give you just enough time to get something out and
evaluated by 900 feet. It's easy to forget that 1500 is just 8 seconds from 
impact.


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From: gmh@cloud.awd.cdc.com (Gregory M. Heideman)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: See ya at the bridge!
Keywords: base
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:06:47 GMT
Organization: Automated Wagering Intl.

I'm getting my stuff packed and ready for a road trip to the bridge.  I'm
pretty cranked up about it!  If anybody else out there in net-land is going,
stop by and say hi.  I'm the long-haired blond guy hanging out with the
"Skydivers from Hell" in the big white schoolbus!  I'm pretty sure we'll
be at the Holiday Inn.

To those of you who won't be going, have a great week-end at the DZ!

-Greg
gmh@awd.cdc.com
From: bonitz@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Bob Bonitz)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Free Packing
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:58:52 GMT
Organization: UC Davis  Robotics Research Lab

In article <BELBOZ.92Oct7094836@hoe.frc.ri.cmu.edu> belboz@frc2.frc.ri.cmu.edu (Barry  Brumitt) writes:
> [stuff deleted]
>
>Moral of the story: Don't freepack -- it might work 500 times, but one
>time it's really going to screw you up!
>
This is excellent advice.  I used to free pack back in the late seventies
as did most of my friends.  Every one of us eventually had a horseshoe
malfunction caused by a line wrapping around a container flap.  One night
in the bar at Pope Valley, Randy de Luca showed us a film of a free packed
parachute deployment sequence in excruciating slow motion.  As the lines
were playing out and whipping back and forth, the container flaps were
flapping (I guess that's why they're called flaps) in and out amongst the
whipping lines.  After seeing the film, I'm surprised the horseshoe 
malfunctions weren't a more common occurrence.

That film really convinced most of us that free packing was not a good idea.
It's too bad, too, as free packing was a quick simple way to pack and 
eliminated bag locks.     I would also point out that some feel that this
problem is really a problem of container design.  Some containers are
more susceptable to the problem than others.  John Sherman used to claim
that it had never occurred on a Racer as the Racer side flaps do not have
the stiffners that most other containers have.
From: news@walter.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Packing Technique
Summary: Packing Technique
Keywords: Packing Fast
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:30:23 GMT
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc.

In article <1209.2AD915FD@ehsnet.fidonet.org> SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE) writes:
>Reply-to: Bill.Caefer@p0.f853.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Caefer)
>Fido-To: romulus!glacier.stanford.edu!king
>
    (stuff deleted) 
> r>         SURE the lines are straight.  But that man can pack FAST!
>
>Ahhh.  A man after my own heart.  With 2250 and counting, no malfunctions, and i've got my packing down to 5 minutes if it all goes smoothly, 6 if it doesn't, we should get together and compare notes.
>
 
I would be interested to hear about your packing technique.  I haven't
been packing very long (only about 30 pack jobs under my belt) but it takes
me forever!  I'm not looking for new way to pack; I'm just wondering
what are the important things you 'fast packers' look for when you pack
(i.e., lines, keeping the stablizers clear, etc.).  It seems that if
you are packing in five minutes that there must be certain key things
you look for.  
 
Thanks in advance!
-Mirk
 
From: mirk@nim.ctt.bellcore.com (Andy Mirkis)
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Bell Communications Research
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From: cayrol@sc2a.unige.ch
Subject: SKYDIVING MAGAZINE
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:21:16 GMT

HI skydivers!!

I'm looking for the adress of Skydiving Magazine. I used to received this revue
but I lost my suscription bill.
If anybody can answer and give it back to me

With best regards.

			JMCAYROL
From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Doug Puchalski)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: High altitude bungee jump
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

I'm sure some of you haven't heard about the attempt of two skydivers to
attach themselves together by two bungee cords.  Well, they went out into
freefall, and I believe one of them deployed.

The bungee stretched at stretched, until it finally broke.  As America's
Funniest Home Videos would have it, the cord recoiled and, well, let's
say, if you are going to try this at home, be sure to wear a cup.

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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Where is a good place to learn in the SF Bay area?
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:54:18 GMT

Reply-to: Ted.Harrison@p0.f623.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Ted Harrison)
Fido-To: romulus!netcom.com!jhesse

Regarding romulus!netcom.com!jhesse's message to Skydive on Oct 03:


 r> Many years ago (in the sixties) I made about a dozen jumps 
 r> in round, ex-Navy 'chutes.

 Hey! C-9 canopies in B-2 packs, weren't they?

 ... with T7 army reserves.

 Here Down Under we used to scan mail order military
 surplus store ads in magazines and wait months for the
 gear to arrive by sea from the US...

 Then we'd sit down at the sewing machine and mod them ourselves.

 I once hacked three gores out of a C9 and cut drive panels
 across 11 gores.  I used to be 6ft 2 when I started jumping
 that. Now I'm 4ft 6.  |*)


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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: Skydiving Video's
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 00:13:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.172202.911@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
>
>BTW, has anyone seen _Proof_?  I'm told that this is the original short
>that the skydiving scene in _Fandango_ was based on.  How does it stack up
>against the full length version?  I'm told that the skydiving is actually
>"better".

Well it couldn't be much worse!
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>| New Mexico Tech / National Radio Astronomy Observatory |            DoD #387
>| P.O. Box O / Socorro, NM 87801   (505) 835-7391        |
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Skydive USA has some cool stuff too.
Timxcy
From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Number of jumps
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:13:20 GMT

Reply-to: Ted.Harrison@p0.f623.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Ted Harrison)
Fido-To: paul stansberry

Regarding Paul Stansberry's message to romulus!tne01.tele.nokia.fi! on Sep 30:

 >> #jumps              #jumps          #mal

 rtnf> Pete             1300             0

 PS> I'd be willing to bet, that you pack your chute pretty 
 PS> cleanly, and ALWAYS check all your lines thoroughly.  

 I once used a hand-held motor-driven Nikon to photograph
 the opening sequence at terminal velocity.

 You want to try it one day.

 See what happens to all those neat lines and pleated panels
 when they hit 120knot turbulence.  |*)


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From: eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello)
Subject: Re: High birds?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:03:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.110005.17901@lynx.mn.org> dave@lynx.mn.org (David Messer) writes:
>In article <1aog3nINNepe@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> andy@cse.ucsc.edu (Andy John) writes:
> >
> >  Someone said they thought they hiyt a bird at 3500 feet... what you a
> >  bird be doing flying that high? I mean it seems like a waste of
> >  energy. Anyone up on bird behavior? Do they really fly that high?
>
>Migrating birds fly up to ~10,000 feet or so.  Soaring birds, such
>as vultures, can easily get up to 3500 feet on a typical days flight.
>I don't think many song-birds will be found that high though.

Are we talking MSL or AGL here?  I understand birds MUST be capable of 
several thousand MSL.  I can't understand whay a bird would wanna go
too far from the ground (food!) unless they find the winds up there 
in a preferred direction (like a ferry service!)


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From: laubach@hpl.hp.com (Mark Laubach)
Subject: Re: Info wanted on Byron and Hollister
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:35:14 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

From Parachutist:

Adventure Aerosports
55 Mercury Drive (Hollister Airport)
Hollister, CA 95023  
Phone: 408.636.0117

Bay Area Skydiving
3000 Armstrong Road (Byron Airport)
Byron, CA 94514 
Phone: 510.634.7575

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From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: jumpers whiplash?
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:27:11 GMT

Charolyn_Babichuk@darwin.biochem.ualberta.ca wrote:
: I find packing (I've been flat packing my own gear until recently) is much
: harder on my body than most opennings or landings.

It hurts my sensitive fingers.   :-)  If I pack alot during the winter
months, they may even crack (and, ohmygod, bleed.  I have a working
theory that it's because of the rubber bands.

Of course, on the other "hand," it may be an attempt by my hands to
escape the body of someone stupid enough to be packing in the cold
and snow.
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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu ()
Subject: Sneak Preview
Summary: Tits
Keywords: Gotta Have It
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 05:59:57 GMT

As promised:

/* shameless plug */

I was treated tonight to a sneak preview of the Lost Prairie Boogie Video,
courtesy of Robert Jones, Skyhi Visual Productions.

You need this video. Your body requires multiple doses of the Lost Prairie
Experience. Sell your soul, whatever it takes, Be There Next Year.

The video is great. The emphasis is not so much the Great Skydiving, more 
the Kick Ass time had by all. The scenery is there, the planes are there,
the Crack Choir is there, the topless stage dives are there, Naked Mike is
there, lots of babes are there, including Melissa who did her First Skydive
Nekked (and had a reserve ride - *three* cases of beer?), ever seen a Blind
Skydiver stand up a landing? Charolyn the Pool Shark is there, so are her
Tits (Connie's too!). Heck, I'm there too, as are numerous other Ugly 
Coloradoans. Nick and Bungee are there, exposed - it's a riot.

I enjoyed it a *LOT*. I remember Lost Prairie like it was yesterday. Robert 
and JJ caught just about everything.

Missing is Art's footage of Charolyn getting pied for her 100th jump. :-(

Robert confessed to me that he worried about having too much T&A in the
video; I wouldn't show it to Mom, but I didn't share his concern. I found
it to be a good representation of the boogie, and I think that it's well 
worth $25. The video is *57.5* minutes long! It was planned to be about
30 minutes. It could have easily been 90. Don't miss it.

Skyhi Visual Productions can be reached at (303) 837-1253 or faxed at
(303) 277-9839. The video is $25, add $2.50 for shipping. If you like,
contact me at:

tjreynol@du.edu
(303) 778-0532 (home) or
(303) 758-7570 (work)
I'll be happy to set you up. You really oughta get this video.

/* end shameless plug */

Tim
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Disclaimers are for the birds.
CUT!!!