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From: karlab@usul.Eng.Sun.COM (Karla Black SunSoft-Software Test Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: GETAWAY
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:25:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: usul


	PAJARO DUNES.......Monterey Bay


        1 Bedroom Oceanfront Condo

        $185 / weekend

        $475 / week

        This is the best location.  The patio

        doors open up right in front of the beach.

        This is the downstairs unit.  All amenities!


       *****Send email for more information OR call (408) 358-3201
       for reservations**** Just use this email as a reference.


Pajaro Dunes......

        is located four miles west of Highway 1 at Watsonville between
Monterey and Santa Cruz.  Convenient airports at Monterey, San Jose,
Oakland and San Francisco.  Fly-in guests use Watsonville airport, about
ten minutes from the Dunes and call the gatehouse for complimentary
transportation.

        20 tennis courts are a short walk away.  11 of the world's
greatest golf courses are a short drive away.
        There are three tennis complexes at Pajaro Dunes and a pro
shop.  The teaching pro will help improve your game.  There are miles of
bicycle paths plus a large athletic field, basketball and volleyball
courts.  The area is a literal paradise for golfers: after you play
Spyglass, Del Monte, Pebble Beach, Cypress and Monterey Peninsula, you
still have six other major course to enjoy---including one only minutes
away.

        This unit is on the lower floor and has one bedroom.  It is
only for 2 persons.  Weekend starts on Friday evening and departs
on Sunday.  Week starts Sunday evening and departs on Friday.  There
is a washer and dryer, full kitchen, color television, fireplace,
microwave, linens, dishes etc.....

        In addition deep sea fishing is offered next door at the Moss
Landing harbor.  Yet within a few minutes drive there are many historic
sights worth seeing and many art galleries and restaurants worth your
time.

        +Much more.....
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From: wtho@ciba-geigy.ch (Tom Hofmann)
Subject: Florida
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd., Basel, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:42:13 GMT

I will spend two weeks in Florida in November. My provisional
itinerary includes

	Disneyworld
	NASA space center
	Fort Lauderdale
	Everglades
	Miami
	The Keys

What am I missing?  Any recommendations for things to see?

Or, the other way round: What should I leave out because of the
hurricane?

Any hints for good hotels/restaurants (medium range)?

Many thanks in advance.

---Tom		wtho@ciba-geigy.ch
From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Florida
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:22:04 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

>I will spend two weeks in Florida in November. My provisional
>itinerary includes
>   Disneyworld
>   NASA space center
>   Fort Lauderdale
>   Everglades
>   Miami
>   The Keys
>What am I missing?  Any recommendations for things to see?
>Or, the other way round: What should I leave out because of the
>hurricane?

Even given 2 weeks, you have a running tour here.  It can still be
lots of fun, however.  I might recommend leaving out the Miami
(it's kind of banged up, and not my favorite place on earth anyway)
and the Everglades (REALLY banged up, and maybe not worth visiting
for several YEARS).

Block out a couple days for Disney ... and you STILL won't have enough
time to do it all.

I really like Key West, but I'm pretty good at putting on the air brakes
and absorbing the attitude down there.  (I seem to wind up there in
August, when it's too hot for even the LOCALS to be in much of a rush
for anything.)  Key Largo isn't much if you don't SCUBA dive.
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bahamas?
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:34:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep30.203416.27124
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <92274.145723SXB134@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXB134@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone out there know if travel to the Bahamas requires a
>passport?  I may have a chance to go there in about two weeks,
>and I don't think I can get a passport in that time.  Please
>e-mail reply.   Thanks.

No..just a picture id of some kind like a driver's license.  My dad went
there in 1990, and due to reasons beyond our control, he could not
get a passport before he left (need to go to court to have one issued).
But the passport office assured him he would have no problem, and he didnt.
He loved Merv's place on Paradise Island.

--Ken
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From: wmc@photon.com (Bill Cornette)
Subject: Re: Tortola
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:38:46 GMT

HINTON, JOHNNY ZANE (jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu) wrote:
: 	Anybody ever been there?  I will be there in February
: 	and I am seeking advice on what to do there etc.

My family spent a week there about 6 years ago.  The swimming and
snorkeling is fantastic -- if you go to Half Moon Bay (and by all
means go), snorkel out a couple of hundred yards to get to the
interesting stuff.  We went largely to relax and enjoy the wind/water/
sun/sand.  If you want to explore, you will need a 4-wheel drive
since regular rental cars are not allowed on certain back roads.

	The main social life is in the town -- try the Pusser's Rum --
the original (or so they say) rum that the purser on British Man of Wars
gave out to the crew.

	There are several scuba charter services and you can rent a
nice yacht if you want to sail around.  At the west tip of the island
there is a ferry if you want to go over to the US Virgin Islands (I
don't remember which one).  

Hope this helps -- some of the other islands in the BVI are also fun
to explore.
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From: splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Seng-Poh Lee)
Subject: Renting a US car to drive to Canada
Organization: Alchemy International
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:03:31 GMT

Do any US Rental companies rent cars that you can drive to Canada?
I know most rental companies only carry insurance for the 48 contigous
states, but there must be a way for someone who needs to travel to 
Canada to do this. If anybody has done this or knows about rental
companies that allow this, please post, or reply.

Thanks!

--
Seng-Poh Lee    <splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu>
From: hrvoje@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Hecimovic)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Denver-3 days
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:46:28 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: Edinburgh University

Hi, I'll be driving from Salt Lake City to Denver at the beginning of
November. What should one see in Denver? Is there any cheaper
accommodation to recommend, maybe somewhere around on hills or center of
the town?
Could I expect snow or problems w/driving at that time of year? 
I plan to stay 3-4 days, but w/o a car.
Thanks, Hrvoje
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wtho@ciba-geigy.ch (Tom Hofmann)
Subject: Hotel near Orlando FL airport
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd., Basel, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:35:44 GMT

I will fly to Orlando FL in November and I'm looking for a nice hotel
(about $50--70 for a double room) not too far from the airport.  Since
my arrival will be at 7.15 p.m. and since I expect that it will take
one hour to get my baggage and my hired car, I would appreciate to be
in a hotel rather soon (I'll have to fight against a 6-hours jet lag).

Who knows a good address for the first night of a vacation?

---Tom		wtho@ciba-geigy.ch
From: grob@chorus.fr (Lori S. Grob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Madrid Airport to city centre
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:28:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.090143.55630@qut.edu.au>, birmingham@qut.edu.au writes:
> Has anyone been to Madrid lately!!!!!
> Can anyone tell me how to get from the aitport to the centre of
> the city.
> Also here's one to test your imaginiation. I also need to find
> Salud street/road or streets/roads are called in Spanish. So if
> anyone has a Madrid street guide and could help I'd really appreciate
> it
> Cheers
> Andrew Birmingham.

I was in Madrid last Tuesday, just for the day.
I was speaking at a conference that was supposed to be 8km
from the airport. I changed about 200FF (between 40-50$ USD)
figuring that would be enough to get back and forth by taxi.

Well that was before my first exposure to traffic 
in Madrid. Suffice to say I had to go to a bank
and get more money to get back to the airport. 

I was told in times of light traffic that fare would be about
1000 pesatas instead of the 3800 pesatas that it was.

My advice is that if its not a business trip, look around
for some other method of getting in and out of the city than
taxi.

Also change money before arriving. There is no machine at the
airport, there is a change booth  and the line is LOONNGG.

It looked like a lovely city and I am lookingh forward to
going back for longer then a couple of hours.


L.S. Grob
Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
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L.S. Grob
Chorus syste`mes			phone +33-1-30-64-82-17
6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines	email grob@chorus.fr	
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From: seger@cognet.ucla.edu (Carol Seger)
Subject: Makena beach on Maui
Originator: seger@hannibal.cognet.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:10:24 GMT


I have read in my 3 year old guide book that Makena
beach is a reasonable place for unofficial camping
and has a colorful population. Is this still true?
My husband and I were considering staying there for
a few nights during a trip to Maui around Thanksgiving. 
Also, is the snorkling there good?

Thanks a lot for any information people can give me.

Carol.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: csafa@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Malaysia    ** Taman Negara  **
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:07:28 GMT

G'day netters....

My wife and I are leaving to the Malaysian capital at the end of the month , on
the 31st of October 92.  We're only staying in Malaysia for one week. But we 
were thinking of going to Taman Negara National Park in the State of Pahang.
We're not sure how many days we should spend there or what the best way to get
there is!  has anyone out there been to the national park or konws any informa-
tion ??  I know the park is closed between the 15th of November to the 15th of
January.  Any information would be greatly appreciated...thanx in advance!

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From: rog@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roger Haaheim)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:38:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Yellowstone/GT National Parks in Oct.?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.travel

I was in Yellowstone on Tuesday last.  Temperature was 75-80F,
cloudless skies, low traffic, Grizzlies on Dunraven Pass,
elk bugling, bison and elk herds wandering on/near the roads,
and all-in-all a spectacular display of fall vegetation.

The trails in the Tetons, except around Jenny Lake to Hidden
Falls, were nearly deserted, and we had the same weather as
Yellowstone all last week.  Hiking was wonderful.

This weather is, however, abnormal for this time of year.  
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13884 rec.travel.air:4898
From: fkooyman@cray.com (Floor Kooyman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Need Info on South-East Asia
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:57:44 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <30SEP92.14440274@skyfox.usask.ca> edouard@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>
>Can anyone give me any information on the train schedule, prices and
>stop-overs on a return ticket between BANGKOK and SINGAPORE?
>
There's a daily express from Bangkok to Butterworth (Penang) that leaves in
the afternoon and arrives around noon the following day.  You change
to a Malaysian train there and may need to change again in Kuala Lumpur.
When I did it in '89 it was around $40-50 one-way for a second class
sleeper.  I stopped in Butterworth and Kuala Lumpur at no extra charge.
>
>Puff  Puff  ......
>
>PS   Please do not answer by saying that it is all diesel nowadays

Yes it is, these countries are more modern than you might think.



-- 
  Floor Kooyman                 	Floor.Kooyman@cray.com
  Cray Research, Inc.			612/683-5456
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: London 4-10th Oct
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.134756.345@ugle.unit.no> oddbjorn@flipper.pvv.unit.no (Oddbjoern Steffensen) writes:
>Hi.
>
>My class is going to be in London from
>the 4th to the 10th of October. We are
>looking for good restaurants/discoteques/
>raves/concerts (mainly rock) and so on...
>
>Are there any good sources of up-to-date
>info about these things in London ?

Wait until you get to London, and pick up a _Time Out_ guide.  It's
full of this sort of stuff.

Charleen

--
I'd like to see a nude opera, because when they hit those high notes, I bet you
can really see it in those genitals.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nvecchi@sangiorgio.cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: Car rental  
Followup-To: nvecchi@cscs.ch
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:30:43 GMT

I'm trying to compare the car rental prices that my travel agent is
offering me (here in Switzerland) for my trip from New York City to 
Buffalo with prices that I could get when I'm there.  Is it cheaper
to "preorder" a car? Only trouble is: I don't have the cost information
of what a compact would run.  Anyone rented in the NYC area recently
that might be able to share?

Thanks!
Nicole

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Singapore air tix cheap
Keywords: singapore, air, tickets, travel
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:14:18 GMT

lingy@rpi.edu wrote: 
->	Can anyone recomment me any places where I can get air tickets to
->Singapore for less than 800 if possible? Travel time will be in the
->2nd week of december, but I will be ordering the tix around now (if i could
->find the right price of course 8-) )

los angeles ... but only if you're good.

(it would help if people listed origins as well as destinations ...
this guy didn't say where he was travelling from; i presume from
albany, but who knows for sure?)

try using a student travel agency (if there's not one at rpi then try
calling the student unions at nearby schools ... SUNY/Albany might
have one ... try spectrum travel at syracuse university (they're used
to catering to students)) ... or try a student travel agency in new
york city.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13763 soc.culture.soviet:8127
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.soviet
From: ralf@eecg.toronto.edu (Ralf Hauser)
Subject: Suggestions for visitors of the Kiev Area
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:32:50 GMT




Hi,

Travelling on oct 9th for some days to Kiev, I am interested in
knowing some highlights a group of graduates/postdocs should visit,
but mainly also I would like to hear about events
(harvest-celebration, etc. ?), places (eating, theater, poetry, ...), 
clubs (traditional, but also modern/jazz ,dancing ?), and persons
which would be nice to meet which are not necessarily listed in every
guide that can be bought in the next travel book shop.

Any hints bringing us closer to the Kiev culture/way-of-life
are highly appreciated !

Thanks Ralf

Please answer also by e-mail to hauser@ifi.unizh.ch
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13800 rec.travel.air:4874
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: New Bus Service To LaGuardia from Upper West Side Manhattan
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:07:47 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

I was home for a few days last week, and there was a flyer in our mail
about New York City's MTA offering new bus service from Harlem to
LaGuardia.  Its called the M60.  One of its stops is 125th and Lenox Ave,
another is 125th and Lexington Av, and there is one in Queens (it goes
over the TriBoro).  There was a time table on the flyer and it basically
says 125th St to LaGuardia in 30 minutes.  There were only about 8 stops
listed on the flyer.

This sounds good for us upper west siders.  If you are a Columbia student,
you can walk to 125th and Bway, catch a crosstown, and then transfer to
this bus.  If you are staying at the Youth Hostel on 104th and Amsterdam, you
can take the #1 train to 125th and Bway, a crosstown bus, and then the M60,
or you can take the #1 to 96th St, then the #2 or #3 to 125th St and Lenox,
then catch the M60.  Or even from the upper east side, catch the #4,#5,#6
to 125th and Third Av and take the M60 there.  And if you are a Metro
North rider to Westchester (or Connecticut?), you can take the M60 to
125th and Lex and catch the commuter line there.

The flyer mentioned that it runs about every 15-20 minutes.  Having
commuted across the Triboro bridge to get to LaGuardia, I can say that
traffic has rarely, if ever, been a problem.  On Saturday, we left the
house at 11:30am, I stopped at Subway to pick up a sub, and still made it
to AA terminal at LaGuardia by 12:05pm.  I think the MTA finally has
a good idea on its hands. 

Price?  No mention of it.  It is an express bus since it only makes 8 stops.
But as far as I know its still $1.25.  Anybody know for sure?

Just wanted to pass the info along.  

--Ken
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: South Pacific in December
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:06:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA



  Both my company and that of my wife will have a December shutdown so 
  we want to go on vacation then.

  We would like to consider the South Pacific, either French Polynesia
  /Society Islands or maybe Bali (and we were even looking at a nature
  tour in Borneo).  We have already been to the Great Barrier Reef but
  we might consider a return.

  We want a relaxing vacation (i.e., not too strenuous or hectic) but
  some hiking or opportunities for nature-study (birdwatching, marine
  life etc) or cultural tourism would be good.   A plus would be access
  to a trained naturalist, anthropologist, for interpretive purposes
  but this is not a requirement.  

  We were looking for recommendations for *small vessel* (NOT big cruise
  ships) visits to these places, OR resorts near places of interest to
  nature or culture study.  

  Thanks very much in advance,


---peter
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive tourists.
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:24:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.015550.1925@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> In article <1992Sep24.101927.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
>>
>>Anyone see Rita Rudner's show on the ABC last night.  Had a great
>>Yankee Tourist (tm) joke.
> 
> Please,  for those of us without enormous satellite dishes,  let us in 
> on the joke.

Imagine the following conversation between UK salesperson and Mrs YankTourist:

MYT:  But back home I take size X shoe...
UKS:  Excuse me, but that's size Y here...
MYT:  But I take size X not size Y...
UKS:  But UK sizes are different to American sizes madam.
MYT:  I don't care.  I take size X...

Etc, etc, etc...

Rod
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From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Keyna Safari Info Wanted
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:49:59 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <31154@goofy.Apple.COM> corrick@apple.com (George Corrick) writes:
>I'm looking for information on wildlife safaris to Kenya.  I'm planning
>to go next summer, and want to know if anyone has had experience, either
>good or bad, with any of the safari tour groups.  I'm especially
>interested in anyone's experience with: SAFARIWORLD, BIG5, WILDLIFE
>SAFARI, or PARK EAST TOURS.

I'm also planning on a trip to Kenya and Tanzania in either February
(through the Zoological Society of San Diego) or during the summer,
via a regular tour operator.  So if you respond to this, please post.
I'd also love to hear of personal experience.  Park East Tours looks
like a pretty good outfit, but I don't know anyone who's been to
Africa except through the Zoo-organized tours.

-- Marisa
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ccdw@kudu.ru.ac.za (Dave Wilson)
Subject: Long Beach
Keywords: Long Beach, USENIX, LISA
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:07:06 GMT

I will be attending the USENIX LISA conference in Long Beach 19-23 Oct.
It is being held at the Long Beach Sheraton.  I'd like some advice on
cheapish places to stay that are not too far from the conference venue.
I'm not too fussy - as long as there is a decent clean bed.  I will
probably be travelling with my wife, so info on accommodation for
doubles would also be appreciated.  

Thanks.
--
Dave Wilson                               Computing Centre  
ccdw@kudu.ru.ac.za                        Rhodes University
+27-461-22023                             Grahamstown, South Africa
From: Ron_Mackenzie@mindlink.bc.ca (Ron Mackenzie)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: URGENTLY required, accomodation in Vancouver
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:29:52 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

My favourite hotel is the Sylvia, 604-681-9321.  If you call and happen to talk
to either Suzanne or Hughette tell them I suggested you call.  The Sylvia is
about a twenty minute walk to your conference site, all through quite a safe
area.  It is located on the southside of the downtown peninsula, right on the
beach, and your conference is on the north side of downtown, right on the
harbour.  The Sylvia is an older, six or seven storey, ivy covered hotel, very
close to many good restaurants.  It is also close to buses, and about $5 cab
ride to the city centre.
        I rarely go there however, not since I moved here.  Call me if I can
help you further. (604)736-4412, fax(604)736-5273.
        Good luck.

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From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: Renting a US car to drive to Canada
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:46:14 GMT


Here in Toronto we rent cars several times a year to go to visit my
family in Pennsylvania and we never have trouble getting insurance and
we always tell the rental agencies that we are going to the States. I