HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gwl%wave3_1@CONCERT.NET (Glenn Lea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: r.m.b
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: gwl%wave3_1@concert.net

>>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:44 EDT, John Thomas said:

  John> Just recently purchased their excellent first release on 
  John> Black Saint and know of two other releases they had on ECM,
  John> PLAYING and one other of which the title escapes me.

>>>>> and Sandeep provided the ECM details.

There's also a 1987 recording by OAND on Black Saint (released 1989)
called "Tribute to Blackwell".  Some of the tunes are repeats ("Happy
House" and "Togo" and possibly others).  It was one of 3 concerts held
in honor of and featuring drummer extraordinaire Ed Blackwell.  A
second concert, featuring Eddie's first band, the American Jazz
Quintet (pretty generic name, no?), came out this year on BS
(personnel include Ellis Marsalis, and Alvin Batiste).  The third
concert was an Ornette reunion, so far unreleased (please?  please?).

ps. Bill Hsu, are you out there?

--------------------------------------------------
Glenn Lea - reply to gwl@wavetracer.com
Wavetracer, Inc.
From: JGATOWSK@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Info on Joe Lovano (sp ?)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:15:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cmsa.16854AC68.JGATOWSK
Organization: GM Research Labs


I recently heard part of a recording by an artist whose name sounded like
Joe Lovano. I think the disk was called "From the Soul" on Bluenote.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure I got the names of the disk and artist right
because I've had trouble finding the CD.

Could anyone out there in netland help me with the exact names and label?

Thanks.
                                      Jan Gatowski
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: Lou Ann Barton [Was: Re: SRV Fan]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:22:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.181848.29291@news.duc.auburn.edu>
	laurecr@eng.auburn.edu (Chase R. Laurendine) writes:
>I bought the collection that I mentioned plus another single CD which
>was a set of live recordings of SRV from 1979 with Mary Lou Barton
>(I think that was her name) and double trouble [...]

Lou Ann Barton, probably.

Her most recent recorded work is |Dreams Come True| (Antone's 1990).
This is a collaboration between her, Marcia Ball, and Angela Strehli,
affectionately known around here as `The Girl Group.'  A lot of the
album has a blues/motown sort of feel, except for the Marcia Ball
songs which feel like...well...like Marcia Ball songs (sultry Louisiana
Swamp Music meets the Texas Blues).  Great album.  No major earth-shattering
moves here, just lotsa good plain fun.  The three women have very
different styles, and they gel nicely.

She also has several solo albums.  The most recent is |Read My Lips|
(Antone's 1989).  There is some exceptional talent on this album.
Jimmie Vaughan, David "Fathead" Newman, Denny Freeman, Mark Kazanoff,
Kim Wilson, and more.  Some of the album sounds like it was recorded
in Antone's nightclub instead of a studio.  I think that's a bug, not
a feature.  Honestly I have to give this disc a mixed review, but
there is enough good stuff there to make it worthwhile.  Nice Fathead
Newman horn work on `You'll Lose A Good Thing.'  Ground shaking vocals
on `You Can Have My Husband' (but please don't mess with my man).

I've never seen her live.  I've heard she puts on a powerful show.
When she's sober, that is (sigh)...

-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | The secret to a long life is
Unicom Systems Development   | knowing when it's time to go.
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM>   |  - Michelle Shocked
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: harmonica music?
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:48:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: gallua.1992Sep4.164859.1
Organization: Gallaudet University

Hi,
	any thoughts about good harmonica music artists?  I have cephus and 
wiggins' two, going on three albums. It doesn'thave to be compleat 
harmonica solo, can be with guitar... just some stuff that features 
harmonica music.

skip
rlwilliams@gallua.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker)
Subject: Re: Andrew White info req
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:06:12 GMT

Andrew White lives on South Dakota Ave, in Washinton DC.
Call DC information (202) and get his number. You can
purchase a catalog from him.

-jaz
-- 

          | Bmaj7  D7  | Gmaj7 Bb7 | Ebmaj7  | Am7  D7  |

| Jack A Zucker                              {uunet}!jaz@icd.ab.com |
| Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.                    or  ICCGCC::ZUCKER |
| 747 Alpha Drive                                                   |
| Highland Hts., OH 44143 Phone(216) 646-4668   FAX: (216) 646-4484 | 

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Branford Marsalis' new album
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 15:12:18 PDT

Anybody have any information on the upcoming new release from Branford 
Marsalis.  It is supposed to be a Blues/Fusion album with B.B. King, John 
Lee Hooker, bro' Winton, and members of the "Tonight Show" band.  
 
I would like to here about a release date and/or some reviews.
 
Thanks.

----
hank@waffle.sns.com  (hankdtank)
Systems'n'Software Free Public Access BBS --- (510)623-8652
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Ran Blake
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:54:19 GMT

Anybody know the story how Ran started getting called "The
Man With The Bag"?

BTW, purchased SHORT LIFE OF BARBARA MONK and agreed wholeheartedly
with Francis Davis on his positive review of this album.
I really like Ran's command of tone on all his albums.
Ricky Ford shines on this one.

Also, taped FILM NOIR and SUFFIELD GOTHIC.  These two are both
excellent also.  The former makes me want to go out and see some
of these films I missed...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:44:13 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: possible Miles Davis tribute
Distribution: world

mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu says:

>I don't think Wallace is getting to be too much like Miles. I noticed that
>he was playing traditional hard bop lines without a lot of space between
>the licks. Miles sometimes played that way but not usually.

What is hard bop?  I've heard that Miles played it somewhere between
Birth of the Cool and Kind of Blue,  What distinguishes it from bop?
Was this style unique to Miles or did others play it?
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: shashaan@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ali Shashaani)
Subject: Coltrane recommendation...
Keywords: coltrane
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:21:26 GMT


	I bought Coltrane's "Africa/Brass" albume last week and have
been listening to it nonstop (God bless my patient neighbors!)  What
an amazing CD.  What would you say are other great collections like
it--or better?  I had always enjoyed his performances with Miles, but
this album is something else.  I'll be greatfull if you have any other
recommendations and explain the reasons for your preference.  Thanks.

	--Ali


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg)
Subject: Re: bb king is giving me the blues
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.134555.19327@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.213041.14643@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu writes:
>>I think what the original poster was trying to say is that by usin the blues to 
>>salute the man who thought up the Willie Horton campaign trick, Lee
>>Atwater, is an insult to blues.  The reason is that the Willie Horton 
>>episode sought to exploited the inherent fear of african americans present in the 
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>hearts of the middle class, and to use an art form which is the result of the pains
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>and suffering caused by white people's oppression of african americans to salute the 
>>originator of this hate campaign is the ultimate slap at the african-american culture.  
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Where do you get this stuff?  "Inherent fear of african americans"  The Lee Atwater
>ad just showed a murderer that was let out of prison for a weekend.  The scumbag in
>question (Willie Horton) chose to rob, rape, and assualt on his weekend off.
>Dukakis was the one that let him out on the town for the weekend.  The point was to
>show it is a mistake to let murderers out of prison for a weekend.  It wasn't
>a "hate campaign".... it was a campaign to show that Dukakis had poor judgement
>signing the weekend pass.
>
>You are the racist one, here.  You turned an ad about a murderer into something it
>wasn't.  Also, note that you said "inherent fear of african americans present in the
>hearts of the middle class".  Aren't there at least a few african americans *IN* the
>middle class?  (A lot more than a few!)  
>
>Elliott New 
>
>P.S. - If you are so unafraid of murderers, why don't you have a few spend the
>weekend with you.  If Willie Horton was such a great guy, why don't you let
>him sleep at your house on his next weekend out.  

So I guess we can all surmise that the murderer pictured just 
happened to be black? Yeah, right.....Hamilton was scum, Buchanan
is scum, and its a shame that any person of the stature of BB King
chooses to associate or to be associated with scum.

But free association is one of the truly great priviledges of this 
country...

Hap
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Cherry/Blackwell (was Re: Old and New Dreams
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:27:57 GMT

smehta@nynexst.com writes:

>I can, however, recommend the Blackwell/Redman duet recorded Live At
>Willisau released on Black Saint. There is also the Cherry/Blackwell
>duet EL CORAZON (ECM) which is very nice.

An even better duet by these two masters (Cherry and Blackwell) is MU,
recorded a few years earlier htan El Corazon. Originally a set of two
albums, it has since been released on a single CD by Afffinity. A gem.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Pat Metheny and game shows
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA

In article <1992Aug23.170500.15281@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> md@sound.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.071435.13687@xyzoom.info.com> rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach) writes:
>>I've approached Pat's latest album with trepidation, hoping he would
>>bring me into some other new musical world, or refine some of the

>When I heard that the LSO was involved in this recording, I had hopes
>of hearing some great orchestral writing, since Pat's albums always
>"sound" so great, but for the most part, it's just strings mixed
>fairly low.  Nothing new here.  The tunes are very similar to his
>last two group albums.

I think the new tunes are even more watered down than the last two
albums'.  There is more attention to "soundscape" arrangement on this
record, and not much original melody or harmony--the cliches outnumber
the redeeming Metheny/Mays phrasings and progressions.

>I'm not so sure if I hear game shows or the waiting room at my
>doctor's office.

OK, both.  Add the supermarket.

It makes me even more disappointed that the Scofield/Metheny
collaboration didn't happen on Scofield's latest album.   I can only
imagine the brilliance of a Metheny/Scofield duet on Sco's tunes.
-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.misc
From: grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com (Jeff Markel)
Subject: Bela Fleck & The Flecktones
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:48:48 GMT

Are they touring to support UFO TOFU?  If anyone has a tour sched, I'd
appreciate a post, or at least e-mail.  I'm hoping for an NYC date
sometime soon.


                        Jeff Markel

Jeffrey Markel | uucp:     jpradley!argos!markel   | Argos Computer Systems Inc
KD2HN          | internet: grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com | 110 W. 32nd Street 
(212)594-5400  | amprnet:  kd2hn@kd2hn.ampr.org    | New York, NY 10001
===============================================================================
	The New World Order is ... "Shoot to kill!"
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: bb king is giving me the blues
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.173642.21385@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.130024.15586@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New) writes:
>>In article <920824144901@joker.ftp.com> rodin@ftp.com writes:
>>>I think you are misunderstanding what Chip means here.  Lee Atwater was the
>>>GOP chairman and campaign strategist for Bush.  It was Lee Atwater that
>>>used Willie Horton to scare white middle class America into voting for Bush.
>>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>You RACIST PUKE!  You look at Willie Horton and see a black guy... right?
>>*YOU* are the one that is so caught up in skin color.  Willie Horton
>>was a murderer.  You *should* be scared of murderers!  It doesn't matter if
>>they are black, white, orange, purple... whatever!  Murderers are bad
>>people.  Kinda simple.  
>
>If you think that the Willie Horton ads did not have racist overtones, man,
>I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU. If Willie Horton had been white, he never would
>have been used in Bushs campaign ads, I garun-damn-tee you. I am not scared
>of Willie Horton cause hes black, but the Bush campaign team in 1988 wanted
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>voters to be scared of Horton cause he was black.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Refresh my memory.  Did the ad say, "This is Willie Horton... he is BLACK."
They show a criminal in the ad, and YOU call it racist.  They didn't say
that he was evil because he was black.  They just called him a murderer.

>And dont just call me a racist for saying this. It was Atwater who tried to
>connect blackness and criminality, not me. I just call em as I see em, and
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
But Atwater didn't say *anything* about his skin color.  YOU DID!  Atwater
didn't make a connection of blackness and criminality.... YOU DID!

>And sure, some black people voted for Bush, as is their right. BUT 99.9% of
>republican campaign rhetoric is aimed at white suburban folks. Again, Im
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>not being racist here, just callin em like i see em.

More of this "white suburban folks" and "white middle class" junk.  Well, I live
in a "suburban", "middle-class" neighborhood.... guess what, it's black, white,
Indian, Oriental, etc. folks living/voting there.  I don't know where you
live...  

Middle class America, and  suburban America is a mixture of races,
nationalities, etc.  I'm damn proud of that.

Elliott New
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 14:32:20 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Night Music w/ David Sanborn (was: Re: possible Miles Davis tribut

In article <l9qft6INNa8m@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM
(Gary Milliken) says:
>
>t
>think that I had pretty broad tastes in music, but Hal Willner makes me feel
>downright narrow-minded.  He routinely scrapes together the most bewildering  d
>an
>challenging combinations of artists imaginable, both in the same program and
>often on the same tune.  The "Night Music" show was constantly treading thin  e
>ic
>with its viewers and sponsors, because they didn't seem to be making the
>slightest
>effort at accomodating public taste.

Which is why I started taping 'em in the first place,actually.

If you want to see a TV show that "accomodates itself to public taste",a sitcom
is always available....then there's always the Grammy Awards,which have usually
ended up being much funnier than most sitcoms have of late.

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: avant
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:50:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.141405.7944@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (graham Freeland ) writes:
>In article rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin) writes:
>
>>I just read an interesting tidbit in the latest (9/92) Pulse! magazine from 
>>Tower.  It seems that DIW of Japan has "given" John Zorn his own record label, 
>>to be called Avant...
>
>Have just purchased Avant01: Naked City,"heretic,jeux des dames cruelles",
>@ Tower Records @ 12.99 pounds (= $26 since the dollar is doing particularly
>shite (see below)). May post a brief review if I can affect the style of
>a Yamatsuka Eye scream. The cover Art should prove a big hit amongst the
>scatologist community (however only female buttocks are aired).
>
>Graham Freeland.

Have any of the Avant releases shown up in the U.S. yet?  I look forward 
to hearing your review, Graham!

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 02254-9110       >
From: noykman%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nathan Dykman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: SRV live (was: Unauthorized Live CDs (was:))
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:27:21 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

> There are a number of places to get Unauthorized Live Recordings (aka
>bootlegs) on CD, tape, lp, and video.  The best place to find out
>about them is from Goldmine, a weekly newsprint magazine which carries
>hundreds of ads from places that carry these items.  Mostly rock and
>oldies, but occasional jazz and blues.  This is also a good source for
>finding out-of-print stuff, and radio shows.  Beware: you can dump a
>TON of money this way. . .

>Double CDs are typically $45-50, singles are $18-25.

For those of you who are wanting to stay legal. I have heard that a new
live album will be released sometime soon. I should be a double CD. 

Nathan Dykman
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hollywood Fats
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 12:46:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.004015.19294@morrow.stanford.edu> NA.CGC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Chris G. Clarke) writes:
>I am looking for recordings by a guitarist know as "Hollywood Fats"
>I don't have his real name but was told that he recorded with the
>James Harman Band but died within the last few years.
>
>
>Does anyone have any info...would you know which Harman band albums
>he recorded on...???

---------                                                                    **|
Nice to see someone else knows about Hollywood Fats!  He
was a killer blues guitar player.  His real name was Mike Mann,
but that won't help you much.  I don't think he recorded anything
under his own name.  In no particular order, here are some things
to look for...

   William Clarke - __Can't_You_Hear_Me_Callin'__ (Rivera Records LP-RR502)
     This is a re-release of the William Clarke thing.  Basic, straight
     ahead blues w/Fats on Guitar.

   James Harman Band - __Extra_Napkins__ (Rivera Records LP-RR505)
     Fats is on a few cuts of this record.  Also has Jr. Watson on a
     couple, plus Kid Ramos.   Kid and Fats played w/Harman together
     for several years.

   James Harman Band - __Strictly_Live...In_'85__ (Rivera Records CD-RR506CD)
     There are a couple of KILLER Fats solos on this one.  Fats really shines
     on the jump blues stuff.
     (Rivera Records address: P.O. Box 1848   Orange, California  92668)

   Rod Piazza - __Harpburn__ (on Murray Bros. Records)  Fats plays
     on about half the records, but doesn't get too many solos.

   __The_Hollywood_Fats_Band__  -  I forget the record label, but there
     were only about 2000 copies pressed.  I've heard that the records
     go for about $50 *if* you can find one.  However, the Fats Band
     record has been re-released on CD... in Europe.  You can get it
     from Crosscut Records in Germany if you can track them down, and 
     figure out how to mail order from Germany.  :-(  Maybe Tower
     Records could get it.  
   

There are a few other songs that he played on from various hard-to-find
out-of-print records.  Some of the best Hollywood Fats stuff I've heard
is from live tapes of him.  He really burned live!  

If you really like Fats' blues playing, check out Rod Piazza and The Mighty
Flyers, The William Clarke Band, and The James Harman Band.  Great guitar
players in all of these bands.

Hope this helps,

Elliott New

P.S. - Where did you hear about Hollywood Fats???

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: Re: Brand X Recommendations
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:16:08 GMT

Speaking of Brand X, what ever happened to Goodsall's project, The
Firemerchants (w/ Chester Thompson on percussion).  IMO, their 
eponymous debut CD was above average.  Did they have any other
releases?  Or is this just another case of one-and-done?


Thanks,

Ralph Marrone

From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:42:37 GMT
Subject: Re: clarinet arcana
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote

In rec.music.bluenote, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:

> - What's a good introduction to jazz clarinet playing?  Or maybe a generic
>   introduction to jazz on melody instruments?  I've seen a few but don't
>   know enough to decide on one.

I don't know that there is anything available specifically for clarinet.  There
are plenty of generic "introduction to jazz" - type books on the market, but I
can't say that I particularly like any of the ones I've seen except a couple
specifically aimed at pianists.  However, I have written a generic jazz primer
that I plan to make freely available for anonymous ftp *real soon now*.  While
I can't guarantee you'll find it more useful than any of the commercially
available texts, I can guarantee it won't cost as much :-)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc Sabatella           Winner, 1992 First Annual Bill Evans Lookalike Contest
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote