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From: tompkins@dream11.ibmpcug.co.uk (Eric L. Tompkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: sources for Mac->SVGA cables
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 19:57:39 GMT
Organization: Dream Engineering
Reply-To: tompkins@dream11.ibmpcug.co.uk (Eric L. Tompkins)
Distribution: comp
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In article <Bzz5J1.2J9.1@cs.cmu.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), gleicher@CS.CMU.EDU (Michael Gleicher) writes:
> 
> The usual suspects (macwherehouse, macconnection) came up blank. . .
> 
> Can someone please tell me some sources for cables so I can hook an SVGA
> monitor up to my mac? (mail-order places prefered)
> 
> (BTW: I'd like to get a cable which would let me set the sense pins to various
> configurations. I've heard that such things exist. One I've heard of has
> different plugs which you swap for each monitor type.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 	Mike
> 
> -- 
> Michael Lee Gleicher				gleicher@cs.cmu.edu
> 		ski bum, graphics hacker, and SCS PhD student
> Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891	(412) 268-6243 (school)

What kind of Mac?  What kind of video card?  If you have built-in video (LC, LCII,SI,etc.)
then Black Box, among others, has the cable.  If, like me, you use a Micron Xceed
30 card on an SE/30, you'll have to custom build your cable based on the pinout diagrams
in the monitor and card manuals.  If you are the latter case, email me and I'll send
you the cable diagram that worked for me.

Eric

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From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Macs preferred to PCs --- at least here...
Date: 25 Dec 92 03:02:35 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

>> Heh. Probably because the operators are too short-sighted to figure
>> out how to link them together - so people can ACTUALLY DO THEIR WORK
>> BETWEEN THE TWO (yes, it can be done!). So people who have always had
>> their work on the PCs stay there because there isn't an effort to try
>> to even out the usage in the lab (by buying WordPerfect/Mac, Lotus123/Mac)
> 
> Umm, I can say that it's the opposite here at UofMD.  Generally,
>it's much easier to get a PC than a Mac.

Opposite here, too, at the University of Cincinnati.  There are 
countless PCs (nice new PS/2s, networked to laser printers) and a 
whole bunch of SEs and LCs.  The PS/2s are rarely used; the Macs are 
constantly mobbed.  It got so competitive I bought a second mac (a 
PB100) so that I could do work at school on a mac.
	This was also the case when I was an undergraduate at Vassar 
College --- they had an equal number of PCs and Mac 512Ks (this was 
back in 1985/86) --- the macs were used constantly, the PCs, even 
back then, were largely ignored.

					Jon Temple
					Dept. of Psychology
					University of Cincinnati
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zellner@stsci.edu
Subject: PB160 availability and price
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:24:16 GMT

I got a Powerbook 160 with 8 megs of ram and the 80-meg hard disk from Falcon
Microsystems for $3040.  The purchase was made through my company (Computer
Sciences Corporation), but at least that will give you a price to aim at.
Delivery was in just a few days.

Falcon has offices in most areas of the country and can be called at
301-341-0146.  I have no connnection with Falcon except as a satisfied customer,
and my opinions are entirely my own.

Ben

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: walkerl@med.ge.com (Larry Walker)
Subject: Re: Printer Footprints
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: GE Medical Systems
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:54:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.132420.3115@schbbs.mot.com>,
RHTR70@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Mark Swenson) wrote:
> 
> 
> I was just getting ready to order a Stylewriter to go with my PB160.
> 
> They suggested I could get the HP Deskwriter instead; better performance
> for $60 more.  In my case I don't *need* the better performance but its
> OK; but what's also important to me is the machine "footprint".  (How
> much space it occupies on the shelf or desk top.)  I live in Japan and
> houses are smaller . . .  :(
> 
> QUESTIONS:
> 
> 1) How do the Stylewriter and DeskWriter footprints compare?  My under-
>    standing is that the Deskwriter is bigger but how much bigger?
> 
Well, I've been wondering about this myself, so I got a tape measure and
checked my wife's SytleWriter vs my DeskWriter:

SW = 13" wide  x  20.5" deep  x  12" high

DW = 17" wide  x  15" deep  x  8" high

(Sorry for the archaic units, it was all I had handy...)

The DW will fit under an 8" high shelf (although you'll have to pull it out
to flip up the top to change ink cartridges); the SW needs a little extra
clearance
above its 12" height in order to feed paper into its more-or-less vertical
paper holder/feeder.

The SW _looks_ a lot smaller, until you unfold its Rube Goldberg-esque
paper catcher thingie: then its footprint expands greatly (the SW is only
9.5" deep with it closed).

> 3) Any additional comments on the relative merits/demerits of these
>    printers?

The SW print quality _is_ (just) noticeably sharper. But to me, that
doesn't make up for the fact that it is 2x to 3x slower (even with the
new&improved driver). My wife doesn't seem to mind the spped too much, but
she has had spells of balky behavior, when paper just wouldn't feed right
for days on end, then it's suddenly fine. I've never had ANY problems with
the DW.

Since we got the SW for $50 on an Apple promotion, it was a great deal. But
if you're paying street prices, I'd vote for spending $60 extra for the DW
any day!

Hope this helps...

Larry Walker
System Architect
GE Medical Systems
Pewaukee, WI 53072
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 16-inch vs. Sony CPD1604S???
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:40:23 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1ht6nuINN16s@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), olsenm@ucs.orst.edu (Monte Olsen) writes:
> Hi everybody,
> I have a friend who is trying to decide between an Apple 16-inch color
> and the Sony CPD 1604 color monitor to run with her IIci. Which would you
> buy if you could choose and why? Also, can you run the Sony from the IIci
> video without purchasing a video card?

I own a Sony CPD 1604S and like it.  It's hooked up to my Q900 onboard
video and works well with that.  I got a good deal last summer on
the Sony and it compares well with the Apple 16" (they are both trinitron
tubes).  I did have to use the "Mac Std Gamma" (not the default) to
get it bright enough for me.

You can run the CPD-1604S at a variety of resolutions.  I've personally
use it at 640x480 and 832x624 with different adapter cables.  So I'm
sure you can run it on your ci at 640x480 with the proper cable.  To
get the 832x624 you'll need a video card that supports the standard
16" monitor resolution.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pauls@ll.mit.edu (Richard Pauls)
Subject: Re: IIsi accelerators and big video
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:05:48 GMT

In article <jdsmc-221292173235@kidsnoopy.lahabra.chevron.com> jdsmc@chevron.com (David McCormick) writes:
>Dear Netters:
>
>I am about to purchase a DayStar PowerCache 40MHz with FPU. My question
>is how do people like them and if I decide to get a 16" or 19" monitor
>later in the year, will there be enough room and power to run the monitor?
>
>Thanks and happy holidays.
>
>David McCormick
>Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.
>La Habra, CA
>jdsmc@chevron.com

I have a DayStar 50MHz powerCache in my IIci.  I am not too impressed.
It is a bit faster, but still nowhere near a 486 33MHz, and it cost about
1300 with the FPU.  I don't think I'd buy it again given the price-to-
performance increase ratio.  Now if you have a slower mac to start with,
like an si, cx or IIx, you will see quite an improvement and it is a 
better investment.  By the way, If you're going to put one in why not go for
the 50MHz version?
From: mancini@fysik.uu.se (Derrick C. Mancini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: leaving macs running for extended periods
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 3 Jan 1993 13:27:30 GMT
Organization: Fysikum, Uppsala Universitet
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: usx221.fysik.uu.se

In article <1993Jan3.122057.7093@tdb.uu.se>, bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats
Bredell) wrote:
> 
> bryan d oakley (ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu) wrote:
> : What's the current wisdom regarding leaving a mac running 100% o' the
> : time?  That's how I treat my Sun at work, to no ill effect.  However,
> : we have a script on the Sun which reboots the machine (ala cron) once
> : a week to clean up the file system, etc.  If there is no problem with
> : leaving the mac up, is there a way to have it automatically reboot now
> : and again, or is that even necessary?  
> 
> I don't think there are any problems with the hardware, it should be able to
> be turined on all the time. However, you should reboot at least once a day
> to clean the system.
> 
> /Mats
> -- 
> Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
> Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
> Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
> Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!

Agreed, there should be no real problem running the hardware.  And if you
are running a Mac as a server or such, leave it on without worry. But if
it is a personal machine used office hours, you might shutdown.  I do
recall long threads about the relative advantage of powering down disk
drives at the end of the day versus avoiding cycling them on and off.  If
I recall correctly, the final average conclusion was that if the machine
is unused afterhours, it is best to turn on in morning, leave on all day,
and turn off when you leave.  This limits you in a work office to about
250 power cycles per year, a fairly low number, while having the machine
off 100 days of the year and 2/3 of the time the rest of the days.  That
means about a 25% duty!  You could look at your hardware, determine the
estimated lifetime versus total power cycles, and based on this estimate
determine if it is best to follow the advice above.  There is also the
savings in electricity.  (say 250W x 24 x 360 x 0.75 = 1620KWh)

Derrick C. Mancini
Fysiska Institutionen  -  Uppsala Universitet
Box 530  S751 21  Uppsala  Sverige
mancini@fysik.uu.se
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From: pauls@ll.mit.edu (Richard Pauls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:27:03 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab

In article <19978.2B35D0BE@zeus.ieee.org> eric.larson@f620.n2605.z1.ieee.org (eric larson) writes:
>
> ##                     calc.(sec)       scroll(min:sec)
> ##Mac II                    35.3            2:16.2
> ##Mac IIci                  15.3            1:31.2
> ##Mac IIci/cache off        19.2            1:44.7
> ##386dx                     22.5            2:25.3
>
> # Hmmmm.
>
> # Most 386 motherboards above 25 MHz have a built-in SRAM cache
> # these days. Even the bargain basement jobs.
>
>Need I point out that the 25 MHz IIci/cache off still beats the 386/33?
>
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> eric larson - Internet: eric.larson@f620.n2605.z1.ieee.org

I was saddened to find out that the 486 33MHz beats the pants off the
Mac IIci even with a 50MHz DayStar Power Cache installed.  The 486 is
more than twice as fast according to Matlab Benchmarks and just counting
the time for intense calculations.  Power Cache has FPU also.  The 486 sure
does fly, but hey, my Mac is friendly.  I like that when I/m not in a
hurry!
--Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: simsh@crockett1a.its.rpi.edu (Big Guy)
Subject: Finally got my IIsi to 25mhz!
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:07:43 GMT

Well, after waiting a month and a week for my crystal to arrive due to the
campus electronics store's silliness, I finally got my 50mhz crystal for my
IIsi. After removing the old one, jabbing myself in the thumb with the pins
from the new one (ouch!), etc. I finally got my computer set up. It was truly
amazing! I checked with Speedometer and also did some scrollbar tests in Micro-
soft Word 4 and found my document's scroll time in 8-bit color went from 40
seconds before to 27 seconds after. Not bad! And from 10 seconds in b&w to 6.5
seconds! Not twice as fast 8-bit as before, but not bad! Also, I have 5megs of
RAM on my si, all of it 80ns. I have a nubus/fpu board installed. I have a heat
sink on BOTH the cpu AND the fpu, just because. I have experienced NO problems
at all due to this upgrade. Also, I touched the crystal and cpu after the 
computer was on for a couple of hours, and the crystal was cool to the touch,
the cpu slightly warm as expected with the heat sink, the fpu was also cool to
the touch (well not cool, but room temperature, you know what I mean...) Thanks
to the original posters who convinced me to do this to my expensive piece of
equipment! Tomorrow, I go to the store and order a 60mhz crystal, will let 
everyone know how it works when I get it sometime next year!

-- 
Hillel Sims      Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute      e-mail: simsh@rpi.edu
From: tim@Apple.COM (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: P5 v. PowerPC (WAS: Where the mac really wins)
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:43:38 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <C08vn0.5nI@rahul.net> jonathan@mecca.epri.com writes:
|   I would hope that the PowerPC is a 64bit chip.  Otherwise it won't stand a 
|chance in competition with workstation class machines; even the lower end 
|ones.

How so?  The high performance of the two existing 64-bit
microprocessors is not due to their "64 bitness"; it is due to their
recent design.  Both went to 64 bits for other reasons:

	1) Current & future memory addressing expansion
	2) It didn't cost much in die area or speed penalty

(I assumed by "competition" you meant "a performance comparison")

That said, the PowerPC architecture defines both 32-bit and 64-bit
implementations.  The 601 which is now sampling is a 32-bit
implementation.

-- 
	-- Tim Olson
	Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
	(tim@apple.com)
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From: uzot@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jason S. White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Sony MDP-1100 and the Mac
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:32:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

Has anyone had any success using the Sony MDP-1100 with their Mac (especially
with Teaching, Learning, and Technology Interactive kit or any other HyperCard
interface)?

I am looking to test the player with Voyager drivers or Apple's own drivers 
(unsupported by Apple and Claris, like Audio Help). If anyone has done this
already, please let me know.

Thank you in advance,

Jason S. White


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From: alan@metasoft.UUCP (Alan Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 14" monitor emissions?
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:21:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: metasoft.5102
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA

>Brodie Lockard (brod@jessica.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>: Does Apple sell more than one 14" color monitor?  Do they all meet
>: Swedish radiation emissions standards?

Anyone know if the Sony 1320 (LC only) display meets the standards?

-alan

-----------------------------
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Meta Software Corp		 Internet:  alan@metasoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Apple monitor model #M1212 (Q)
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 03:52:32 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <ibhan.725925628@husc.harvard.edu> ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End) writes:
>
>>It is my understanding that both monitors have the exact same SONY picture
>>tube and the new 14" has better magnetic sheilding and a built-in tilt-swivel
>>base. It is marginally more expensive via the academic channels ($500 vs $435).
>
>>Could you substantiate your claim that the new 14' uses a flatter tube ?
>
>The 14" does seem to have a flatter tube, but it's hard to tell.  There is
>definately a difference in the image quality (14" is better).

Are you sure this isn't due to the 13" tubes being older?
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From: gt4997b@prism.gatech.EDU (hamza benamar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Which system comes with SI ?
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:11:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	As a new owner of a SI, I was wondering if sthg was missing
  in my system disks. The OS I have dates back to 1991, It's 7.0.1.
  Moreover, I haven't found the MacRecorder utility on any of the 
  installation disks ( all 6 of them ). The manual specifies it is
  in the disk tool disk. However, I did not find it there !
	Should I complain to the store ?
	I honestly thought the latest system was 7.1.

	Hamza

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: New fan for SE
From: srcriro@chv.lincoln.cri.nz
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:54:30 GMT  
Organization: Canty Agriculture & Science Centre

I was wanting to quieten the fan on my SE, by replacing it and noticed that it
actually SUCKS instead of blowing, as it were. It draws air into the Mac thru 
the floppy ports and the vents front & side. 

I was proposing to install the replacement fan reversed so it sucked air thru 
a filter and blew cleaned air thru the Mac.

Can anyone forsee problems with this?

Tootle pip.....Ian O

aka Ian Orchard, SCItest Lab, Industrial Research Ltd, ChCh NZ

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:24797 comp.sys.mac.apps:18936 comp.sys.mac.misc:21032
From: David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Rocket 33 and VersaTerm Pro problems
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:31:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Help!  I have a Radius Rocket 33 installed on my Mac IIci.  I seem to have
a problem with VersaTerm Pro and the Rocket.  I use VersaTerm Pro 3.5.3 to
access my VAX thru a Practical Peripherals 9600A modem.  If the Rocket is
active, characters displayed to my screen seem to get dropped.  Transmission
to the VAX seems fine.  I can type any command and the system will respond.
The display just seems to be messed up.  Disabling the Rocket seems to clear
the problem.  I have tried using a modem cable that has hardware handshaking.
I enable hardware handshaking on the modem with: AT&F&C1&D0S95=44.  VersaTerm
Pro still seems to be losing characters.  Have any of you Rocket users seen
this problem?  Have you found a solution?  Radius says to use Microphone or
White Knight, but I really can't change right now.  Any help would be
appreciated.  FYI, the system is a Mac IIci, 8Mb RAM (on motherboard), 32 Mb
on Rocket.  System 7.01 with tuneup installed.  Assorted inits and cdevs.
Thanks again for any help you can give me!

-- David Guevara,
   Internet: David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com
From: Jedd_Haas@maccomw.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: DayStar Quadra Cache card
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:10:10 GMT

The Daystar Quadra Cache works great!  A noticeable speed-up.
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From: Graeme.Worrall@f406.n712.z3.asstdc.oz.au (Graeme Worrall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: drive conversion
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:37:24 +1100

Hi, I'm wondering whether it's possible to convert an internal SCSI hard disk
drive into an external unit. If this is indeed the case, could someone
recommended the best way of approaching the task.