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From: d85-hga@dront.nada.kth.se (Hillevi Gavel)
Subject: Re: CTTS - 3 yrs
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:48:18 GMT

This subject line seemed to fit very well. Unfortunately the quotes
suffer a great deal from being translated.

Alvin and mum discussing baby in tummy. Mum mentioning that when _he_
was in the tummy, it was a bit exciting not knowing what was inside.

Alvin (looking a bit puzzled): Didnt you know it was a litttle human baby?
********

Alvin watching his baby-sister nursing for the first time. Mum
explaines that small babies have to drink almost constantly, to grow
bigger.

Alvin (after watching baby intently for about 30 seconds): Why doesn't
      it grow bigger?
********

(For you to understand this, I have to explain that a Swedish "Noo!"
and the yell of a baby sound very alike).

Alvin (after listening to yelling sister): But it can talk quite well!
-- 
Hillevi Gavel		"The child may not be subject to corporal punishment 
Stockholm		or other abusive treatment" 
Sweden			-- Swedish law
From: sg@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Susanne Gilliam)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Second month on Clomid - no luck yet!
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:50:27 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

>In article <1992Dec28.165959.6297@uc.msc.edu> tbachman@hamline.edu. (Toni Bachmann) writes:
>Anyway, my question is...
>
>Anyone out there a clomid patient?  How long did it take you to get pregnant
>once you ovulated?  I know it is normal to take a while but the last four
>times I became pregnant the first month so this is HARD.  Just in need of
>some reassurance I guess.
>Toni

  It took me 7 months on Clomid, with two adjustments to the dosage in the
early months.  I got very, very discouraged, but it did work.  Good luck
to you; it is very tough.  I built up "starting fertility drugs" into 
such a mecca in my mind ("...we will try for 2 more months, and then I'll
have all the tests, and then I'll get medication and I'll be pregnant!...")
that I was bound to be disappointed.  At least it makes your cycle nice
and regular, and of normal length, which gave us more chances (my cycles
were running about 40 days apiece at that time).  My "Clomid baby" will
be 6 next week.
 
				Susanne Gilliam
From: mimi@sybase.com (Mimi Balcom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Cute Things They Do (2.8 y.o.)
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:11:51 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

My daugter is 29 months today. In the monring, she usually says "good morning"
to me and my husband and give us a kiss. (very sweet). This happend last week:

Me: "Can I have a morning kiss, please? Valerie."
Valerie kissed me and  said good morning mommy, then said: " Mommy, say it."
Me: "Say what?"
Valerie: "Say, good morning ME."  
I knew what she meant, but I just said: "Good morning ME"
Valerie: "No, no, no, no. I show you, Good morning ME. Try it."
So, I siad, "Good morning Valerir". 
Valerie: "Good.", She was reallty happy.



Mimi
From: jill@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Jill Boyce)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: When to stop breastfeeding?
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: jill@sol.asl.hitachi.com
Organization: Hitachi America Ltd

In the beginning my son Jimmy exclusively ate breastmilk, from both breast
and bottle.  By 4 months old he had breast milk from breast and bottle and 
some formula supplementation.  At that point I had gone back to work and only 
pumped once a day which wasn't enough to fully feed him.  From about 6 months 
I stopped pumping at all and he started solid foods, had formula from bottles 
during the day and breastfed once in the morning and twice in the evening.  
He loves solid foods and is up to having them 3 times a day now at about 8 
months.  He is a big boy -- about 21 pounds at 8 months and at his 6 month check-up 
was in the 90th percentile in weight -- you would never guess that he was 5 weeks 
premature and spent 10 days in the hospital at birth.  Breastfeeding is getting increasingly more difficult as he hates to sit still for long and always wants 
to look around. (With my nipple in his mouth - ouch!  No teeth yet, though.)  
But, breastfeeding is great for putting him to sleep at night and after being 
away from him all day at work I like to be able to do something for him that 
no-one else can do, and to enjoy the closeness with him.  

Next month when Jimmy will be 9 months old I will have to be out of town on 
business for a M-F week.  (My first time to be away from him for more than a 
work-day.  Yikes!)   I am trying to decide if I should wean him from breastfeeding
completely before I go out of town.  Or, should I pump while I am out of town to
maintain my milk supply and continue breastfeeding?  So, how long have others 
continued to breastfeed in addition to other foods?  Are teeth a problem?  (I 
expect Jimmy to get teeth any day now as he is showing all the signs of teething.)
How important are the health advantages of breastfeeding at 9 months, particularly 
when in addition to other foods?   We won't see the pediatrician again until I am 
just back from my trip.  Thanks for any advice.

Jill Boyce
jill@sol.asl.hitachi.com
From: juliar@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Julia Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Chicken Pox
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:07:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

The best advice we got we got when my three year old daughter got a
severe case of chicken pox was to teach her to pat the pox instead of
scratching them.  It worked!  It was impossible for her to do nothing,
but patting was a good substitute for scratching.

My sympathies. Chicken pox can be bad.
From: lev@ipxed5.nswses.navy.mil (Lloyd E Vancil)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: PC educational programs and games: titles and sources needed
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:20:07 GMT
Organization: NSWSES, Port Hueneme, CA

I highly recommend the series of programs sold
at radio shack.  I have purchased a few of them.
My 11 year-old loves MATH-Blaster.  There are 
a couple of programs based on dinosaurs, and another
few based on a mystery.  None of these are yet windows programs
but they use sound and the mouse or joystick.


--
|suned1!lev@elroy.JPL.Nasa.Gov|lev@suned1.nswses.navy.mil|sun!suntzu!suned1!lev|
|S.T.A.R.S. The revolution has begun!|  My Opinions are Mine mine mine hahahah!|
From: psybc806@emory.edu (Elise G. Jacobs)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: water breaking
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:33:51 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


I am absolutely convinced that I won't know when my water breaks.  Between
my leaking bladder (especially when I cough) and swimming, I can't imagine
how I will distinguish anything.  Anyone else with this fear?

Elise
From: prmader@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MICHELLE MADER)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Booooo, Tyco!
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <11JAN199314112129@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov>, goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg) writes...
>In article <1993Jan11.142842.23296@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, andy rogers <rogers@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov> writes...
>>In article <x5_3ss_@rpi.edu> Chris Nelson, nelsonc@colossus.cs.rpi.edu writes:
>>>There was another note on this group about a Tyco race track which
>>>didn't work as advertised.  I think I'm getting ready to NOT buy Tyco
>>>toys.  Any other comments?
>> 
>>When i was a kid, i noticed how cheesy Tyco toys were, especially for the
>>cost.

We have the Tyco building blocks that can be used with Legos & we
really like them.  They seem to be of the same quality and cost MUCH
less.
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From: M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Kathy Wilk)
Subject: Re: The Schoo Didn't Fit
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA 01730
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:50:29 GMT

In article <JGJ.93Jan11220152@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com>
jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson) writes:
>
>Where I grew up, the 6th graders (about age 12) were the school
>crossing guards at the streets around the school and could have
>paper routes.
>
  When talking about crossing guards and kids with paper routes, there
are also some other considerations.  For the twelve-year-old crossing
guard, is there some sort of adult supervision in the form of someone
visiting or spot checking the guard?  Is it a busy street?  Are there
houses nearby where the people are home?  And for the kid with a paper
route, is an adult keeping track of where he or she is or should be?
Or is the adult using the time that the kid is on the route to go to the
gym or the mall?
  I bring these issues up because my neighbor accompanies her nephew on
his paper route - he is ten years old.  She doesn't go to the houses with
him but she drives around enough to know where he is supposed to be.
 
 
                        K. Wilk
                        M18611@MBVM.MITRE.ORG
 
            <--********************************-->
 'Thrusting my nose firmly between his teeth, I threw him to the ground
  on top of me.' - Mark Twain
            <--********************************-->
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From: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen)
Subject: Re: Disposables question
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:08:59 GMT

In article <29513@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss) writes:
> > cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
> >How are you supposed to check if those water-tight, "stay dry"
> >disposables have urine in them without fully undressing the poor kid?
> 
> There are four ways I use:
>    --slip hand on top of diaper.  If it's warm, it's newly wet.
>    --slip finger in diaper.  Feel diaper
>    --feel diaper--if it feels bulky and full, it's wet
>    --for pooper diapers, I can often smell them, or can see the
>      poopers at the edge of the leg, just waiting to ooze out and get
>      everything dirty.    (don't ask why we have 'pooper' diapers and
>      not 'poopy' diapers at our house :-)-- 

Another way (easier after some experience) is looking for subtle changes 
in color/texture just below the plastic outer liner.  As the moisture
wicks away from the baby, the liner looks a little darker with a 
faint mottled appearance over the wetest area (I'm only used to boys --
this might be harder to detect in girls).  The nice thing about 
disposables is that they can usually take a lot of wetting before
they reach the point were the baby MUST be changed.  So when in doubt, it
generally is no problem to NOT change the diaper.  A lot of times,
the only way I can tell the diaper was wet upon is that when I take
it off, it feels slightly heavier than a dry diaper.
-- 
Diane Pedersen
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
att!ihlpe!elonich
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From: eal@dg.UUCP (Erik Lee)
Subject: Re: Chicken Pox
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:54:51 GMT
Reply-To: eal@dg.UUCP (Erik Lee)
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC


smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:

> One of the concerns about the vaccine is that the extent of the protection
> isn't known.  Chickenpox in children is almost completely benign, but it's
> between very unpleasant and quite serious in adults.  Trading a mild
> illness for a serious one 30 years later is no bargain!

My wife says that it is a common thing for parents to intentionally expose
their children to chickenpox before they hit puberty, after which it can cause
sterility, and, it sounds like, is just generally more serious. I'd never heard
of anyone doing this, though i guess it sounds like it makes sense. Does
anybody
out there do this?

Erik
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From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Subject: Older child bed-wetting
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
Reply-To: H_Markowitz@att.com
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:53:15 GMT

I have a question regarding an older child (> 10 yrs.) who will wet at
night.  He is a very sound sleeper who will sometimes seem to sleep
through being hauled out of bed, taken to the bathroom, (the following
parts are on his own) urinating,pulling up his pants, washing his hands,
and staggering back to bed.

Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted.  Please e-mail me answers
as I do not usually follow this group.  The toilet training FAQ seems to
deal with young children and initial training.

There are intervals when he will be dry throughout the night and others
when he appears to wet his bed as he is getting woken up.  Other times
he just seems to sleep right through it.

If sufficient answers come in, I'll summarize for the group.

--
____________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz    |     Im ain ani li mi li    |
| H_Markowitz@att.com | Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha |
|_____________________|____________________________|
From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Sweet things they say (5.5 years)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:01:11 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.gps.caltech.edu

This morning, I was talking to my 5-yr old about all of the fun
things that he had done over the Christmas vacation.  After
recounting the list, he suddenly announced, "Kid not for sale!".
And I said, "Not for sale?  Why not?".  And he said,
"I just belong to you".

Happy New Years!

Sue

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day )
Subject: Re: Breastfeed, Go to Jail (Was: Protecting your family...)
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:15:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.162923.10739@ttinews.tti.com>, reid@metis.tti.com 
> And the same hairball has the power to do the same thing to THOUSANDS
> of people, all of whom could have a very difficult time defending
> themselves.  And do you (Keith) really think he's the only hairball in
> the government?  Government seems to ATTRACT hairballs, or at least it
> seems to attract people who enjoy imposing their (often pig-ignorant)
> ideas on everyone else.

Not only did the hairball ruin her and her child's life for a year, just 
imagine what all the legal fees did to her pocker book!?

Kevran (mom to Jason - 2.5YO and Kylie 2.5MO)
day_kevran@tandem.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: 6310550@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Cute Duck Umbrella: where to purchase ??
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:01:32 PST


I recently saw somebody with one of those *cute* duck umbrellas
like the kids have in the Barney videos... Does anybody know
who sells them ?  My 4 yr old is driving me CRAZY with daily
requests for one of those umbrellas.

Thanks,
Deb
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject:  Braxton-Hicks Contractions
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:07:44 GMT


  I'm about 28-weeks pregnant and have unexplained contractions
  that don't hurt whenever I walk around, stand-up from sitting,
  pick up my son, etc.  I wonder if they're Braxton-Hicks
  or something worse.  I've quit the fitness center since there
  is no purpose in running on the treadmill if I can't even
  walk down the hall without tightening.  I didn't get this
  in my last pregnancy, so I'm wondering if it is normal
  and that other people also have frequent painless tightening
  (or contractions) at this stage.  Thanks!

  Clare
  clare@nynexst.com
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Yet another solid foods question
From: nina@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Nina Rosson)
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:04:38 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute

In article <199301020335.AA10134@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>what goes in must come out. Eventually she got the habit of it and ate
>maybe a tablespoon's worth a day. Well, a day after, she started behavijg
>VERY funny, i.e. during the day nurse (formula) constantly every 
>hour to 2 hours but taking less than her usual amount, during the night
>sleep for an hour, pop up crying and sleeping (how do they do it?) every
>hour, salivating a lot, biting her hand, and producing lots of gas.
>
>This went on for 3 days and 3 LONG nights. By that time she was taking
>a tablespoon a day and had adjusted to the spoon quite nicely, but during
>the night it was the baby from the alternate universe :-(. After a 
>checkup, her doctor said it was not teething (though she matched all
>symptoms), not an ear infection, but simply that we should stop the
>rice cereal, wait a week, and start on simple veggies. 
>
>We stopped cereal and Sophia rewarded us with a nice full night of sleep.
>Now she's back on formula and behaves normally. 
>

This is almost exactly what happened, except for the hand-biting and gas,
when we started introducing solids to our baby when she was 5 months old
(at the pediatricians advice).  We started with rice cereal - and what
followed were the above mentioned nights from hell, waking up every few
hours to cry and nurse.

In our case we took a break from feeding solids (a week?) and then tried
carrots with not much difference. After yet another break, we tried oatmeal
- and everything went great!  We have since added squash, sweet potatoes,
banana, apple, peaches, pears, green beans and chicken with no problems.
A few weeks ago I tried rice cereal again, and we had a few awful nights 
until we went back to oatmeal, and everything was fine.  (I haven't tried
carrots again).  At the time, I asked everyone I knew about this, but nobody
seems to have encountered anything similar before.  Until your post, I thought
our difficulties were just a figment of my first-time-mom-sleep-deprived
imagination!  

I guess I can only suggest trying different cereals/vegetables/fruits and
hope to find one that agrees with your baby.  My pediatrician also suggested
giving solids at breakfast in the beginning, in case a new food caused a
reaction, it would happen during the day instead of at night and interrupt
everyone's sleep.

Does anybody know why most people start with rice cereal?  Is it because
it is supposed to be least likely to cause allergies?  Is it possible rice
could be harder to digest than, let's say, oatmeal?

Anyway, good luck with the solids - it is a lot of fun when they suddenly
understand the spoon/food dynamics, and you can't shovel the food into
their mouth fast enough! (I can't wait for the messes of finger foods
just ahead of us...)

--Nina
mom of Katie, 8.5 mo
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons)
Subject: >>>> Diaper question.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:56:37 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


In article <1i8q13INNdi3@gap.caltech.edu>, prnott@cco.caltech.edu
(Prabhu R. Nott) writes:
> Folks:
>       Has anybody experimented with the Ultratrim variety of Huggies
> or any other brand of diapers?  They are much more compact than the
> regular diapers, but I am wondering if that is at the expense of their
> absorbence.  Has any body tried it out?  Thanks,

Huggies ultra-trim is fine with us.... 

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (barter,elizabeth)
Subject: Re: Early Puberty (summary)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:10:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.235845.16340@leland.Stanford.EDU>, Carol F. Topp <ctopp@cup.portal.com> writes:
> In one of the summaryies, it was said:
> >
> >Give your daughter a calendar and talk to her about how to
> >keep track.
> >***********************************************
> 
> I have a funny story about keeping track.
> 
> My mother, my sister, and I all kept track on the kitchen
> calendar. I walked into the kitchen one day and put my
> mark on, say, the 15th. My mom asked me to circle the 4th
> and my sister asked me to "X" the 9th. My brother was confused.
> He started asking about putting Xes, circles and stars on the
> calendar. 
> 
This reminded me of a funny story too!  There are 10 kids in my
family, 6 girls and 4 boys.  Counting Mom, that made 7 women
in the house.  For summer vacations we usually went camping (what
else are you going to do with that many people and still have money
for food?).  After the first few years, when it came to planning 
the trip, Dad would throw a calendar on the table and tell us to 
come up with a week that was "convenient" for ALL of us.  (No easy 
task, mind you!)  I guess he got tired of hearing who couldn't go 
swimming, who was bloated, who had cramps and couldn't plug the heating 
pad in anywhere, etc. etc. :-)  

Beth
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: bdsuba@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANDAMAN)
Subject: Re: Predict your next child`s sex
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Turner Ranch. Blood Butte, Texas
Distribution: na
Date:  8 Jan 1993 09:54 EST  

In article <1993Jan7.210627.29161@nynexst.com>, clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes...
>In article <1ii0m2INN5vg@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>>
>>Actually, I don't even need the answers to my questions--for all four 
>>possibilities, your charts predict that my son must be a girl! :-)
> 
>  For me also, although I didn't check carefully, it seems that all
>  four possibilities say that my son is a girl also!

The chart incorrectly predicted the sex of both of my children, too.  Let's 
see, 4 other posters had incorrect results, plus my 2 equals 6 trials with 
zero correct..HEY!  The chart is right! It's the symbols that were 
misinterpreted. If x=female, and o=male, then we have 100% accuracy on our 
sample of six.  Quick, someone call Science magazine. :-)


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:31:00 EST

In article <WDN.93Jan4215532@beach.cis.ufl.edu> wdn@beach.cis.ufl.edu (William Dean Norris II) writes:

>If GOD had intended boys to be circumcised they would be born without a penis.

Close, but if memory serves, this is closer to the original:

	"If circumcision were beneficial, their father would
	 beget them on their mother already circumcised"

And no, you won't find it in the canonical gospels, but he still said it.
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From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Baby furniture questions
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:08:39 GMT

In article <C0Eqtn.Huo@inews.Intel.COM> vnoronha@mipos3.intel.com (Valerie Noronha) writes:
>I just purchased a Childcraft changing table last weekend.  When looking at
>them my husband and I noticed that the platform is not of solid wood or
>anything (I'm not sure what to call it, but I'm sure those of you who have
>them know what I mean).  I looked at the attached documentation but couldn't
>find any mention of weight limits.  How long do you use the changing table?
>Until the baby is out of diapers which could be 2-3?  This table doesn't 
>look like it could bear up with the weight of a toddler.  Are they safe
>for 20-30 pound babies?  Do you find the safety strap helpful or just hold 
>onto the baby with one hand at all times?  My husband thought the strap
>looked rather uncomfortable.

That sounds alot like what we have. Jeffrey will be 3 in March, weighs about 33 lbs, and is still using it.

The straps are useless. A wiggly child can wiggle out in no time. I cant 
imagine how how tight you would have to set them for them to keep a child
still. I owuldnt want to find out. Just arrange everything so that all the
necessary supplies are within easy reach. 

If you have a spare dresser or bathroom counter, you can also buy something
to put on top, to use as a changing table. Little Tykes make a very good one.
>
Laura Floom


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