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From: edw@wells.UUCP (Ed Wells)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,nj.misc,phl.forsale
Subject: Hammond Organ for Sale
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:44:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wells Computer Systems Corp., Levittown, Pa. 19058


  ***  POSTED FOR A FRIEND WITHOUT NET ACCESS, DON'T RESPOND TO ME  ***

  I have a friend that is looking to sell a Hammond Organ, Model E-182.
This organ was well maintained before her mother (who played the organ)
pass away a few years ago.  Since then, it has just been sitting and
nobody has played it.  This was the top of the line when it was new.

  Here's a description:
	Hammond Organ, Model E-182, S/N 25600
	Two full keyboards with full set of pedals
	Has the features of a Model B3 plus several extra stops
	for additional voices.

	Additional external leslie speaker, Model 122, S/N 31014

	Rythm Ace Percussion voice box.

  Call Ginny Phipps about this organ at (215)-547-6016.  This organ
is in Levittown, Pa.  Call between 12 Noon and 10 PM please.

-- 
=========================================================================
Edward E. Wells Jr., N3IAS, President		    Voice: (215)-943-6061
Wells Computer Systems Corp., Box 343, Levittown, Pa. 19058
{wells.com,dsi.com,dsinc,bcccix,francis}!wells!edw
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,phl.forsale
From: jjs@vfl.paramax.com (James Solderitsch)
Subject: CD Player for sale
Keywords: for sale
Organization: Paramax Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:32:53 GMT

I have a Sony CDP-35 CD player for sale.  Has some nice features
such as a 20 track music calendar, CD index access, full programmability
including nice random play capability.  Displays in progress track time,
or time remaining for either current selection or the entire CD.  When
programming, computes the total time of tracks selected so far.

There are two known problems with the player.  The CD disc compartment
drawer sometimes sticks when trying to open it -- work-around is
to tap the face of the drawer slightly, and it opens successfully.
This problem is a minor annoyance and it has not gotten any worse
in the past year.  The second problem is that recently, *some* of my
CDs have been skipping during playback.  These CDs play fine on other
players I have, so I suspect that there is a slight problem with the
player itself.  Sometimes running one of those CD lens-cleaner discs
through the player helps; sometimes cleaning the CD helps.  The problem
occurs infrequently, but I have to say that the frequency has been
increasing of late.  Since I just bought a CD changer, I am not inclined
to get it fixed.  I have the instruction manual plus a complete
shop manual that I got from Sony, but not the knowledge to debug
the problem.

I am asking $30 or best offer.  I prefer to deliver it personally
in the Philadelphia area, but will shop if the offer is good enough.

The unit is about 3 years old.  It is a small-box table model.
No phone jack, no remote control.

-- 
Jim Solderitsch

jjs@vfl.paramax.com

215 648 2831
From: shrivast@cs.pitt.edu (Nimboneous)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Couch for sale $35
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:42:40 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

COUCH FOR SALE - $35 ($45 if delivery is needed)

in good condition, available in Pittsburgh area

Contact: Bill Tomer @ 422-4710
or 
Send mail : shrivast@cs.pitt.edu or wjtomer@cs.pitt.edu
From: greg@yantar.pgh.pa.us (Grzegorz Kochaniak)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: test 5
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:38:00 GMT

test 5
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,dc.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.mac,misc.forsale.computers.other,ne.forsale,nj.forsale,ny.forsale,phl.forsale
From: myers@brown.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Joseph F Myers)
Subject: Mac Package Huge Bundell!!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:15:33 GMT


New System for sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*********************************************************************

*PowerBook Duo 230		2609.00	(Used For 1 Week ONLY!!)
     4 MB RAM
     80 MEG HD
     Battery
     Charger/AC Adapter
     System 7.1

*Duo Dock 			1079.00	(Unopened)
*Math Co-Processor		79.00	(Unopened)
*4 MB RAM Upgrade		235.00	(Unopened)
*Apple Extended Keyboard II	185.00	(Unopened)
*Apple Dispay Card 8*24		569.00	(Excelent Condition)
*Apple 14" Color Display        525.00  (Unopened)
*ADB Mouse			72.00	(Unopened)
*Notebook Case			39.00	(Excellent Condition)
*MS Word 5.1			295.00	(Excellent Condition)
*Think Pascal 4.0		165.00	(Excellent Condition)

                           	5852.00 <Retail Price>
  INCREDIBLE PRICE>>>>>> 	4750.00 <*YOUR PRICE*>

****Of course, ALL manuals and books are included,all software is purchased, 
   and ALL boxes are original!!!

<***CURRENTLY, THIS IS A COMPLETE DEAL ONLY!***>
<***NO reasonable offer will be refused**>

e-mail to:
    myers@crayola.cs.spu.edu
From: gpn0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GARY PHILIP NEWHART)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Medium Wet Suit
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:36:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

USED, medium wet suit in respectable condition. 3/8"
Ugly light blue.
Best offer....
From: rcgst1+@pitt.edu (Rosalind C Gray)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: For Sale: Celestron 4.5" newtonian telescope (like new!)
Summary: telescope for sale
Keywords: forsale telescope
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:26:07 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: rcgst1@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


Posting for a friend:


For Sale: Celestron 4.5" newtonian telescope. This is a high quality
telescope not like the cheesy ones you find in most stores. This has a
smooth precision alti movement with a very sturdy stained wood tripod.

It's only a year and a half old, I basically got an urge to "get into"
astronomy, and I've only ended up using it a couple of times, plus I'm
going to be moving soon too.

I paid $450 for it brand new, and I'm asking $200 for now. 

Call (412) 366-1849  (After 6:00 PM) if you're interested.


	-Thanks
From: mosse@cs.pitt.edu (Daniel Mosse)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: One-way USAir tkt Pgh-San Francisco (best offer)
Date: 20 Jan 93 19:18:58 GMT
Distribution: pgh
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science


I have a ticket on USAir to go to San Francisco on
Jan 24, 10am.  It is a direct flight AND they will serve LUNCH.
Ticket comes with a ride to the airport (dress warm, heater doesn't
work all that well :-).

I would like to get a lot of money for it, but will consider best
offer...  E-mail now, or call later.

Home number: 661-8389.

--
Daniel Mosse'				e-mail: mosse@cs.pitt.edu
Dept of Computer Science
University of Pittsburgh		voice: (412) 624-8923
Pittsburgh, PA  15260			fax  : (412) 624-8854
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From: holland@central.cis.upenn.edu (Billie Holland)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,phl.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: LEATHER SKIRT FOR SALE
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:31:34 GMT
Followup-To: pa.forsale
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

*******************************************************************************
              L E A T H E R   S K I R T  F O R   S A L E

SIZE: 	9/10
COLOR:  BLACK 
Length: Falls just *above* the knee but is not a mini
PRICE:  $$$ MAKE ME AN OFFER (worn only once - mint condition) $$$
        
*******************************************************************************

Reply to: holland@central.cis.upenn.edu

Billie



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From: perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault)
Newsgroups: upenn.forsale,pa.forsale,phl.forsale
Subject: JENSEN car speakers for sale
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:56:26 GMT
Followup-To: upenn.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	One pair of JENSEN car speakers:

	-Tri-axial 3-Way speakers
	-150 Watts Peak Power
	-80 Watts Continuous
	-40 Ohms Impedance

	Price: $80 (negotiable)

	Call Ron (215)-222-6933
	email perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt) 
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: HAYES ULTRA 144 FOR SALE
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt) 


       Hayes External Ultra Smartmodem 14400 with V.32 bis for sale.
       -------------------------------------------------------------

  Like New in original box with all manuals. Less than a year old.
  Has 1.5 years left on original warranty.

  38,400 bps V-Series Smartmodem features:
  ----------------------------------------
  Does 1650+ CPS on Compressed ZIP files
  14,400, 12,000 and 7,200 Bps (CCIT V.32bis)
   9,600 and 4,800 Bps (CCIT V.32)
   9,600 and 4,800 Bps (Express 96)
   2,400 bps (CCIT V.22bis)
   1,200 bps (CCIT V.22 & 212A)
   75/100 bps (CCIT V.23)
   Full CCIT V.42 and V.42bis compliant
   Dial up and leased line support.
   X.25 Pad Support (w/ ISDN Support)
   MNP 2-5 Error Control and Data Compression
   Recently upgraded to v1.2 ROMS. (12/92)

   $450.00 with FREE BLUE (2nd Day Air) shipping.
   We accept VISA/MASTERCARD with no surcharges.

   For more information call:
   Call 215-674-9290 x1110 during business hours or leave E-Mail
                                            
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From: wewst2@cislabs.pitt.edu (Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,misc.forsale,pa.general
Subject: ### 1989 SAAB 900 for sale ###
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:03:13 GMT
Followup-To: pa.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh



I am graduating this semester and need money to pay my tuition.
Selling this car is my last resort.

About the car:

1989 SAAB 900
4-door sedan
slate-grey 
PS, PB, Air conditioning
automatic
Am/Fm cassette stereo , auto-rev + security
Fold down back seat
Roomy trunk space
Adjustable heated front seats
Well taken care of and clean
New tires
Inspection until August
Extended Warranty until December
A very nice car, come and see.

Asking : $8500

If you are interested in buying this car or you would like to know
more about it, please contact me at,

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From: george@bigmax.UUCP (Mathew George)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,pa.wanted
Subject: Wanted Church Organ
Keywords: Organ
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:16:44 GMT
Organization: Fischer & Porter Co., Warminster, PA.

Wanted an electronic full sized Church Organ with at least 2 set of
manuals and full set of pedals.

Please call Mathew (215) 924-7098 in the evenings or e-mail to
george@bigmax.
From: greg@yantar.pgh.pa.us (Grzegorz Kochaniak)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: test 3
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:22:00 GMT

This is a test, please ignore
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From: greg@yantar.pgh.pa.us (Grzegorz Kochaniak)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: test
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:27:00 GMT

This is a test, please ignore.
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: Re: HAYES ULTRA 144 FOR SALE
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:51:27 GMT

ron.brandt@satalink.com (Ron Brandt) writes:
:   $450.00 with FREE BLUE (2nd Day Air) shipping.

Hmm, you can get a V.32bis modem for $300 new.

--
hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)    :     :    :   :  : :: ::: :::: :::::
Unix Geek for Swarthmore College        :     :    :   :  : :: ::: :::: :::::
Information Services, Swarthmore, PA, US.       Copyright 1993 by Eiji Hirai.
I don't speak for Swarthmore College.                    All Rights Reserved.
From: ozgur@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Ozgur Demiral)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Bicycle Wanted !!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:30:04 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



       A bicycle in good condition is wanted that is worth about $ 100-150. 

If you are interested in selling, please email ozgur@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

or call 573-6948.
     
      Ozgur Demiral
From: jan@gluon.ansoft.com (Seaway Jan)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: test
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:24:45 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: Ansoft Corporation


this is a test, ignore it.
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From: wewst2@cislabs.pitt.edu (Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: pitt.general,pa.forsale,pa.general,misc.forsale
Subject: ### 1989 SAAB 900 for sale ###  Update...
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:41:52 GMT
Followup-To: pitt.general
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh



I am graduating this semester and need money to pay my tuition.
Selling this car is my last resort.

About the car:

1989 SAAB 900
4-door sedan
74K miles
slate-grey 
PS, PB, Air conditioning
automatic
Am/Fm cassette stereo , auto-rev + security
Fold down back seat
Roomy trunk space
Adjustable heated front seats
Well taken care of and clean
New tires
Inspection until August
Extended Warranty until December
A very nice car, come and see.

Asking : $8500 or make me an offer...

If you are interested in buying this car or you would like to know
more about it, please contact me at,

E-mail : wewst2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
phone  : (412) 6215386
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From: myers@seagreen.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Joseph F Myers)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,dc.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.mac,misc.forsale.computers.other,ne.forsale,nj.forsale,ny.forsale,phl.forsale
Subject: Re: Mac Package Huge Bundell!!
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:13:15 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

Just remember, I'll pay shipping anywhere in the contenental U.S. <excluding alaska>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xref: sparky pa.forsale:1348 misc.forsale:36391 rec.music.classical:20992
From: chun@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (K. D. Chun)
Newsgroups: upenn.general,pa.forsale,upenn.forsale,misc.forsale,rec.music.classical
Subject: Pipe organ at 127 Db's/ Tour/ CD
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:27:41 GMT
Followup-To: upenn.general
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


                     PIPE ORGAN at 127 Db's

The Curtis Organ At Penn was built in 1926 for the Sesquicentennial
Exposition, has 10,793 pipes and was fitted in 1988-89 with a full
MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) Interface.  The organ
can produce 127 Db's at 90 feet from the pipe lofts.  The lowest
actual pitch it produces is 16HZ from a wooden pipe 37 feet long
and 2.5 feet square.  The highest pitch is produced from a pipe
about 1/4 inch long.  The whole organ weights about 200,000
pounds..

If you want to tour & hear the organ in person give us a call at
(215) 898-4636..during the academic year.

For some of you folks who can't make a personal visit we've some
copies of our professionally performed and produced compact disc.
It's available at Penn's student union classical CD shop. For CD
info: (215) 382-BACH (2224) or 1-800- 648-BACH (2224)

ARTIST: Ted Alan Worth

Recording Engineer: Daryl Bornstein
     He was Leonard Bernstein's personal recording engineer for
     almost a decade. 

Bach: Toccata & Fugue in D minor, Air for the G string, Now Thank
We All Our God, & Adagio Cantabile.

Bingham: Roulade

Davies: Solemn Melody

DeMaleingreu: Tumult in the Praetorium

Elgar: Pomp & Circumstance #1 (the Graduation March)

Grieg: Ein Traum

Handel: Allegro: Organ Concerto IV with the W.T. Best Cadenza

Mulet: Tu Es Petra

Purcell: Trumpet Tune
From: glipton@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Gary Lipton)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Honda CRX (Easton, PA)
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:48:25 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: Dept. of EE, Lafayette College, Easton, PA
Originator: glipton@lafcol


1991 Honda CRX, 18K miles, AC, cassette, standard
5-speed trans, red.  $8900.  Call 215-559-1808.

-- 
***************************************
* Gary Lipton, Dept. of EE            *
* Lafayette College, Easton, PA 18042 *
***************************************
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
From: aulich@eecg (Fred Aulich)
Subject: Condo Forsale Puerto Vallarta
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: pa
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:08:56 GMT


  FOR SALE a time share condo in Puerto Vallarta Mexico. It is a 
1 bedroom  apt. right on the beach. The condo complex is Villa Del Palmar
which is one of the most exclusive resorts in Puerto Vallarta. The Condo
a short ride form the City of Puerto Vallarta.

  The apartments comes with a full kitchen including microwave oven,
  and  cable TV . The apartment has a pullout couch in the 
  living room so you can accommodate 4 people very easily.
  The resort itself has a mini golf course, gift shop, laundra-mat, and a
  beautiful pool with bar in the middle of pool.

We have a 1 week floating membership so there is flexiblity as to when you 
can go down for your vacation May - Oct

The asking price is $5200.00 (US). The price is negotiable

For more information call 1(416)978-3973 work

		          1(416)822-1072 home
From: greg@ansoft.com (Greg Kochaniak)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Test
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:53:43 GMT
Organization: Ansoft Corporation

Test post, please ignore.
-- 
Greg Kochaniak
Ansoft Corp., Pittsburgh PA, USA
greg@ansoft.com
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
From: frosty@world.std.com (Robert J Nunez)
Subject: Save $$ if you buy bottled water
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:45:07 GMT

I have 3 filters that remove chlorine and other substances from drinking
water to produce bottle-quality water.  These filters were used only long
enough to clean out the packing carbon to test them out.  Each does 10,000
gallons.  The price for each is $200 which works out to 2 cents a gallon
(compare to $1 average price for bottled water).

Email any responses or call me at 617-859-3152 in Massachusets (EST).

Robert Nunez
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From: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Jason Galanter)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Laser Printer, Plotter, Ink Jet for sale
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:30:49 GMT
Followup-To: pa.forsale
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu

I have the following items for sale or trade.  The prices listed are for
reference only!  Make me an offer.  

Compaq Portable Computer....................... $75.00
	- 8088 CPU
	- 256k on motherboard
	- 2 360k floppy drives
	- broken power supply
	- This is a luggable not a laptop or lunchbox

DECMate II Computer............................ $80 
     (CP/M Card, CP/M 2.2, Condor DB, WPS 1.1)
     (Hard drive, mono display, 2 floppy)

Samsung MP-5671 Full page Display.............. $(SOLD)
	w/Cornerstone Display card.....

HP Deskjet - Inkjet printer.................... $250.00

HP Colorpro, 8 Pen color plotter for sale...... $325.00
	Model 7440A, with serial interface.
	Supports 8 color pens and 8.5" x 14" paper.
	Excellent condition
	original documentation

HP IIp Laser printer, very low usage........... $600.00

4-SMC Arcnet-PC 500fs 16 Bit ISA cards		55.00/each
1-Sysgen PSA-1030 tape controller		25.00
4-Gateway G/NET LNIM 8 Bit Ethernet		60.00/each
1-Gateway G/NET LNIM 16 Bit Ethernet		75.00
1-WYSE 386 memory expansion			10.00
1-E-LAN 200 16 Bit ethernet			45.00
1-Mountain QIC-02 Tape adapter			40.00
1-Adaptec ACB-2070A RLL Disk controller		30.00


Prices are negotiable / Shipping at buyers expense.

Contact Jason @ 412-521-6042 or n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu
-- 
Jason Galanter / N3HNR      | n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu 
322 Mall Blvd., Suite 306   | galanter+@pitt.edu 
Monroeville, PA 15146       | 
(412)521-6042               | * How's that for an information-only .sig? 
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From: havey+@CMU.EDU (Robert J. Havey)
Newsgroups: cmu.misc.market,na.forsale,pa.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: BAR AND STOOLS 4 SALE
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:01:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfN9hk_00WB2ExKKNd
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


my father is selling his seldom-used bar and barstools.  it's brown vinyl and
about 4' high, 6' long, and 1.5' deep.  it has two shelves inside.  best offer
gets it.

thanks,
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,misc.forsale
From: KRC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Keith R. Connors)
Subject: Pioneer Stereo & Nintendo.
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:08:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I have a Pioneer Super Tuner ]I[ cassette deck for sale (pull-out deck)
 
Some of it's more notable features are :
 
- Best Station Memory (BSM), picks up the 6 strongest stations in the
  area.
- 18 FM Presets and 6 AM
- Separate treble and bass controls
- 20W + 20W for each channel
- RCA outputs for connection to pre-amp.
- Cassette deck features
  - Auto Reverse
  - Dolby Noise Reduction
  - Music Search
  - Auto-reverse
- Model # KEH - 6050QR
 
Make me a reasonable offer for this,  it was used for about a year 
before being removed from the car I had.  I have no use for it now
and it is just laying around the house..  
 
Also have a Nintendo system for sale..... It has two games volleyball 
and soccer, and a wireless remote system so four people can play.  It 
has been used maybe two or three times in the time we have had it.  
It has the original box but none of the packing.  The system is in 
excellent condition, I would like to get about $55 OBO for the thing.  
If interested please leave me mail....

Keith Connors
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:57:21 EST
From: <FAD102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: 12 string guitar

guild-madeira 12 string acoustic guitar
make an offer
1 year old, new condition
From: rap@bnr.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: uk.transport
Subject: Speed Limits and Humps
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:01:12 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited
Distribution: uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs193.bnr.co.uk

In article <1993Jan22.135937.29548@lut.ac.uk> T.I.Morley@lut.ac.uk
(TI Morley) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.125313.6927@spider.co.uk> jmorris@spider.co.uk
(John Morris) writes:

>>I think you are restricting the use of "inappropriate" to the safety aspects.
>>I live in a house which fronts directly onto a main road, and the bedroom
>>is at the front of the house. A car at 45mph is quite a lot louder than one
>>at 30mph - and it really p***** me off when the gentle drift into sleep
>>gets rudely aborted by some inconsiderate oaf who drives through fast 
>>because "there is nobody about."

>Yes I second this point. I think that the noise made by cars is a very
>good reason for enforcing speed limits.

This got me thinking about some so-called "traffic calmiing" methods.  They
have recently introduced a series of humps in the middle of a village I
frequently pass through, so instead of pootling through at a steady 30 in
top I find I am now continually accelerating and slowing down in second, which
must make a lot more noise for the residents. Moreover, instead of looking
out for children, stray animals, elderly pedestrians, etc. my concentration
is partially diverted to looking for the next hump and adjusting my speed
to the optimum for the suspension.  Is this really a contribution to road
safety?

Richard Porter