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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 13:08:12 EDT
From: <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
 <1992Apr15.170011.11813@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>

It sounds to me like fat. How does one determine he says Fart?

barry
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: 58pyneba@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dude)
Subject: Re: "Strawberry Fields Forever" Edit
Organization: wmich
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:44:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.160818.10775@husc3.harvard.edu>, nahas1@husc8.harvard.edu (Stephanie Nahas) writes:
> In article <1992Apr5.165153.27038@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> alex@drax (Alex Measday) writes:
> >
> >On 3Jul91, David Faciane discussed a "Strawberry Fields Forever" edit
> >at "about 0:55" which must exist before the line "Let me take you 
> >down..."  That edit can be heard (so to speak).  Balance your stereo
> >all the way to the right.  Listen closely at 0:55.  You'll hear *two*
> >breath intakes.  I propose that the 1st one is for the deleted verse
> >starting "No one I think..."  That breath is cut short - this is the 
> >exact edit point - and we hear a boomy guitar note start and another
> >breath intake, this one for the imminent "Let me take you down..."
> >
> >Don Sauter
> 
> O.K., I know this is old, but I wasn't around in July, and I beg to 
> differ, so I thought I'd put in a word.
> 
> I had thought (and read this, too, in Mark Lewisohn's book) that the           edit occurred at precisely 1:00, right after "cos I'm" and just 
> before "going to." Can anyone back me up on this? Have a listen; it
> sure sounds like a definite break to me. Again, sorry if I'm stirring
> up a tired story, but then I wouldn't be the first one guilty of that,
> now, would I? :-)
> 

I agree with you 100%, Steph, and it sticks out like a sore thumb!!
From: dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: More about George's Albert Hall concert
Summary: Mr. Wilson and Mr. Heath
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:48:05 PDT

In article <4356@calmasd.Prime.COM> jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.130413.15896@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) writes:
><
><Yesterday, on a giant sound-stage at Shepperton film studios in
><Surrey, Harrison led his hastily assembled band through last-minute
><rehearsals. When the Press were admitted, the group was mid-way
><through a raucous version of the old Beatles number "Taxman", a
><protest song written in a different political era; younger members of
><tonight's audience may well be baffled by its references to a "Mr
><Wilson" and a "Mr Heath".
>
>	Edward Heath seems to be alive and well, I frequently catch
>him on C-SPAN.  Has changed very little since the 60s, amazingly.

The review in the Los Angeles Times said that during the actual concert,
George substituted a more trendy political reference for the now-obtuse
Mr. Wilson and Mr. Heath. He sang "Mr. Major" and "Mr. Bush" instead.

I'm not sure the classics should be tampered with, but in this case....:-)
--
"I get something in me head, you know, and all the
walls of Rome couldn't stop me."
----------------------------------------------------
saki (dmaclaug@agsm.ucla.edu)
From: mccombj@reis9.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Two small questions...
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:43:57 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

Hi again!
Thanks for all the responses to what I've posted recently! :-)

I was wondering two more things, both of them trivial:

1) Does anyone out there know the U.S. release dates of the Beatles'
albums?  I know the year of release for most of them, but I'd like
to know a little more accurately.

2) Is there an ftp site or any other source to find out the highest
Billboard chart positions of the Beatles' singles?  I've long been
a big fan of the Top 40, and have a strange affinity for statistics.
(My punishment for being a math major here at Allegheny?)

Anyway, merci buckets in advance for any response.

Yours truly,
Joe McCombs	(mccombj@alleg.edu)
From: nahas1@husc8.harvard.edu (Stephanie Nahas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Finger Blisters (was Re: SHAVED FISH)
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:20:02 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <4765@krafla.rhi.hi.is> gaukur@rhi.hi.is (Kristjan Gaukur Kristjansson) writes:
>In <7APR199220090947@vms2.iscs.nus.sg> fanyl@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (FAN YENG LOON) writes:
>
>>-applecore-
>>"I've got blisters on my fingers!" - Ringo
>>fanyl@iscs.nus.sg | fanyl@nusdiscs.bitnet
>
>I always thought that the blisters were John's... are they really Ringo's???
>
>			Gaukur.

Hey, now this is a bit interesting. I had first thought that this was
PAUL'S line. Then I read or heard or perceived by extra sensory means
or whetever that it was really RINGO'S line. And now there's tihs. So,
does anyone know FOR SURE who said it? Gee, maybe it was George.

-- 
Stephanie Nahas                "She's a drag. A well known drag.    
nahas1@husc.harvard.edu        We turn the sound down on her    
                               and say rude things."
From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: I am not a liar!
Date: 10 Apr 1992 23:21:59 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <23457.29e1f172@amherst.edu> lygaribay@amherst.edu writes:
>In response to Lee Kilpatrick's venemous accusation that I am NOT the age that
>I profess to be, I say, fie, you evil one!  I am too SEVENTEEN years old, no
>more, no less, and I will be legal (18) in TEN DAYS, which means that I will
>be 17 no longer.  I cannot believe that I have come under such attack.  I am
>truly distressed.  Shall I forward a copy of my birth certificate?  Where 
>shall I send it?
>
>Other non-believers can just e-mail me, and I will deal with you all on an
>individual basis...
>
>Lisa :D
>the wonder frod (NOT fraud...)


I wasn't implying that you weren't 17; there was no frod <-> fraud intended.

(Actually, I'm only 16, so you're really the THIRD youngest person on the
net.  HA!)


Here's my post:

In article <22898.29d9c2f6@amherst.edu> lygaribay@amherst.edu writes:
>Okay, so I am now unofficially the SECOND youngest person on the net.  I was 
>born on the wedding anniversary of Elsie Starkey and Harry Greaves (Ringo's mom
>and stepdad), which is on April 17, in the year 1974.  That is, I was born in 
>1974; they were married many years earlier.  And for all those people out there
>who keep insisting that there is no one younger than 18 on the net, I say,
>"Learn how to add!"  Or subtract.  Whatever you prefer.  I have roughly two 
>weeks before I hit "adulthood,"  but I'm still an spring chicken!  (hee hee.)
>
>Lisa :D
>the wonder frod.


Hmmm... I think this post might give an indication as to what a "frod" is.


        Lee
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: RMB readership
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:16:09 GMT
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <rgpgrINN6ue@agate.berkeley.edu> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:

>When I first started reading RMB, I was really terrified to say anything,
>because of all the experts who post stuff about differences between takes
>of a given song

Yikes, you mean people like me?  And especially Tom Bowers, who isn't
on the net any more, so I'll take it on myself to speak to this.  I
suppose you did NOT have a difference in mind that we missed, and did
NOT have one of the pressings Tom was trying to get information on,
and didn't think we misstated or unclearly stated anything, so let's
just say you had nothing to add to that discussion.  Nothing strange
about that.  I think even saki had nothing to add.  Many people don't
get into that aspect of Beatles listening, and I know it-- I myself
don't know anyone in "real life" who does, only people I've met here.

So contribute something else, you lurkers.  The recent articles on
when people first heard the Beatles brought out some new posters, I
think, and there was one extraordinarily good one that passed my way
when I was so busy that I never remembered to note who wrote it and
send the compliments I meant to send.  There's a thread that I would
never have started, being I can't remember when I first heard the
Beatles, so I know there are good posts waiting to happen that other 
people can do better than me.  Let's have 'em.

Joe Brennan
From: dennis@hpwrce.HP.COM (Dennis Alstrand)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: like, huh? (Re: READ #9154!!! (I forgot to put a subject...)
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:52:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpwrce.740011
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.


> I know about the snippets of King Lear in _I am the Walrus_.  I also
> hear Greensleeves at the end of _All You Need Is Love_.  did the boyz
> get busted for using Greensleeves?  I have read they did get in trouble
> for using piecesparts of Glenn Miller's In The Mood at the end of
> AYNiL, but I've never heard anything remotely like Glenn Miller, so I
> just discounted what I'd read...
 
> -- srl, el hosequarium south

After reading a previous message requesting us 26800 odd RMB readers
to get involved, I make my debut with this: in The Beatles
Recording Sessions - a book that no Beatle fan should be without -
George Martin discusses the use of Glenn Miller's intro to In The Mood
at the end of All You Need Is Love, and that they indeed did get sued.

Now, this surprised me because what they 'ripped off' was only an introduction
and not the actual song.  Anyway, George felt that the song had gone to
public domain but was surprised.  Greensleeves, if I'm not mistaken, is in
the public domain.  And why not, didn't someone rip it off to the note
with What Child Is This?

BTW, I FINALLY found the Playboy Interview with The Beatles in '66.  Have
many of you read it?  It's interesting at the least for catching this
fast moving band at the frantic height of their fame.  The only disappointment
to me is that John seems to be too tired to really care much about it.


---------------------
No sig yet, er, how about The Catch/1954?  Nahh, too sportsy.  OK,

"I LIKE The Beatles" - Leonard Bernstein
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mcodogno@isis.cs.du.edu (Maurizio  Codogno)
Subject: Re: Lennon/McCartney
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 09:45:15 GMT


For "standard lead" in _Cry for a Shadow_ I meant the leading guitar part
at the beginning of the song, after the intro - the "tema" in classical
music.

BTW, the fact that George wrote _Only a Northern Song_ in a rush for they
were short of one track is false, as the Book states it was written more
than one year earlier. These "musical" lies (I remember the one about one
only take of _Twist and Shout!_ being performed, while actually there
exist *two*) could be collected without any fear - i hope :-)

ciao! .mau.
From: s913391@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Antony Ross Lazarus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: LYRICS II (extended version)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:32:26 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

Due to the great response I got last time, I made an extended list of songs
which I would like the words of:

Blackbird
Mean Mr Mustard
Polythene Pam
Here Comes the Sun
You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
I've Just Seen a Face
Yesterday
Nowhere man
In My Life
----------
Watching the Wheels (John Lennon)
Jealous Guy (JL)
Love (JL)

Thanks.

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From: hartigse@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Another one of those damn polls
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:29:52 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <32927@darkstar.ucsc.edu> mortal@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71079000) writes:
>1) What is the worst original Beatles lyric (Ranging from a couple
>   words to a whole song. Whatever wrankles your hackles.) you've
>   heard? 

    I`ve never been too fond of "Baby`s in Black".  The music is good
    (maybe one of their best melodies of that time), but lines like
    "..and though it`s only a whim, she thinks of him" make the song
    drab.

>2) What is the best?

    As far as the best lyric I`d have to go with the last line of
    "The End".  An obvious reference to an equivalence of love from
    the group and its fans.  The best complete song for Paul was
    "Let It Be".  John, "Strawberry Fields Forever" (it still paints
    pictures in my mind).  Close second would be "Lucy in the Sky
    With Diamonds".  Same case.
_______________________________________________________
Scott E. Hartig
Purdue University Schools of Engineering
West Lafayette, IN

"The sum of the world's intelligence is a constant.....
                ....the population is growing"       

                        -H.L Mencken
_____________________________________________________
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Anyone own the Japanese Imported Beatles CDs?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:06:04 GMT
Organization: Everywhere

In article <MFh+19+@engin.umich.edu>, alb@irie.ais.org (Alan Brushaber) writes:
>   Subject says it all. I would like to hear from anyone who owns
> these pressings.

No... But that reminds me of ANOTHER question:  I was in Chicago a
couple weeks ago, and I came across some Japanese Beatles discs...
It looked like a seven-or-so volume "Best of" collection, spanning all
the EMI/Apple releases, all in chronological order.  There was no
indication of mono/stereo, and I was wondering whether or not the
earlier stuff (ie, material from the first four EMI albums) was available
on these in stereo, since we all sorta got shafted a few years' back...

So, does anybody out there in r.m.b. land have THESE, either?

-- 
David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
"Now a life of leisure and a pirate's treasure don't make much for tragedy.
 But it's a sad man, my friend, who's livin' in his own skin and can't stand
   the company..."                -Bruce Springsteen, 1992
From: rfries@telecaster.ub.com (Robert Fries)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BeatleTrivia
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:01:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ungermann Bass

In article <44501@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hartigse@fe638.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.184759.27654@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz) writes:
>>
>>     Another Trivia question for all you experts:
>>
>>     What color are the cellophane flowers that are "towering over your head"?

>Oh brother.  Who do you think you're dealing with here, Jose?  Let's try 
>one.

>What song did Paul play a fuzz bass on? (Hint: Rubber Soul)

>---------=---------=---------=---------=---------=----------=-------=
>Scott E. Hartig
>Purdue University Schools of Engineering
>West Lafayette, IN


>"The sum of the world's intelligence is a constant.....
>                ....the population is growing"       

>                        -H.L Mencken


>GO HOOSIERS!!!!!

>---------=---------=---------=---------=---------=----------=-------=
Think For Yourself

- Robert
From: djc@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (David Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Ringo on Tour!!!
Date: 2 Apr 92 19:44:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino



Hello 

 I read in the paper yesterday (4/2) about the Ringo tour.  They mentioned
 some of the people who are to play with him.  Joe Walsh was of course
 mentioned.  But also so was Todd Rundgren and Burton Cummings (Guess Who)
 this seems to be an interesting combination.  I may have to go to this
 one.


 Bye

 Dave Cunningham
From: gaj1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (greg.jones)
Subject: Re: BeatleTrivia
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:44:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.084452.7326@waikato.ac.nz> deryl@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.125737.20864@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz) writes:
>> 
>>      O.K.  Since you're all Beatle experts out there, answer this one:
>> 
>>           How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?
>
>
>
>Uummm.... how about 1 really big one, or lots of little ones!?  

John did mention that he read an article about 1001 holes near that area.

greg
From: nahas1@husc8.harvard.edu (Stephanie Nahas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: glitch in beatles cd
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:15:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr15.201537.11144
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr14.213455.2936@arizona.edu> stevens1@evax2.engr.arizona.edu writes:
>If you have the CD version of Magical Mystery Tour, try this:
>Put on headphones and crank the volume; Fast forward to
>Strawberry Fields, about 2:06 into the song, in the left
>channel, listen closely.  
>Same thing with All You Need is Love, 24 sec. right channel.
>Or am I just hearing things?
>
>          --*Jane*--

Hey, yeah, I have heard that thing in AYNIL. Must re-listen to the other.
This reminds me of another question I've been meaning to ask. I believe
it was in "The Book" that I read about some undeleted expletive in "Hey
Jude" at "...then you begin..." before all the na-na-na's. I did hear
*some*thing there; it didn't really sound naughty. Pretty unintelligible,
actually. Anyone know what it is?

Steph
-- 
Stephanie Nahas            "I ate his liver with some fava beans
nahas1@husc.harvard.edu     and a nice Chiante. FTFTFTFTFTFT!" 
                                  --Hannibal Lechter
From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Lennon and the radical left
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:23:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sl5quINN9sa
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

I am proud to count myself a member of the radical left.

I am not violent.

I don't think there's anything mysterious about the death of John Lennon.

"Radical" means "of or pertaining to roots or origins; fundamental."
[Random House Dictionary of the English Language]  A radical, in the
political sense, is someone who looks for the fundamental causes of
social ills, rather than looking for superficial (band-aid) amelioration.
People on the radical left look for explanations in the tremendous
wealth and political power of a tiny fraction of the population.  We
see things like the S&L scandal, for example, not as mistakes but as
the expected results of deliberate social policies designed to help the
rich get richer at the expense of the poor.

There are a few paranoid kooks in the world whose paranoia is expressed
in radical left vocabulary.  There are also paranoid kooks (more of them,
I think you'll find) on the right, and apolitical paranoid kooks.  What's
important about those people is their illness, not their politics.

Obligatory Beatles connection:

	Imagine there's no countries
	It isn't hard to do
	Nothing to kill or die for
	And no religion too
	Imagine all the people
	Living life in peace...

	IMAGINE NO POSSESSIONS
	I wonder if you can
	No need for greed or hunger
	A brotherhood of man
	Imagine all the people
	Sharing all the world...

"Imagine no possessions" doesn't mean that you can't have your own
toothbrush.  It means that nobody should have vast concentrations
of wealth, that greed should not be rewarded or praised, and that
everyone should have enough to eat.

This is a radical left view.  John Lennon said it.  This is what
"radical left" means -- not violence.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey)
Subject: SHAVED FISH
Organization: Actrix Networks
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 10:37:40 GMT


I've just noticed that SHAVED FISH and JOHN LENNON/PLASTIC ONO BAND have
both just turned up in local (New Zealand) shops - on CD that is.

I thought SHAVED FISH was deleted years ago in favour of THE JOHN LENNON
COLLECTION!!

Is this international or is it just EMI dumping in New Zealand???

PS Both releases are from the UK.

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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 16:28:18 EDT
From: <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
 <1992Apr9.170841.27700@pellns.alleg.edu>

How about Hard Day's Night.

paul sings the middle


barry
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: gaj1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (greg.jones)
Subject: The real fifth Beatle?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:03:51 GMT


Hi All,

I would like to know others opinions on who they thought was the 
Fifth Beatle.  My list would include:  Stuart, Pete Best, Billy
Preston, or Eric Clapton.  I pick these people because each actually
recorded with the Beatles while they were still a group.  Does any-
one else have an opionion on this? 8-)

Greg J
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Blisters on my fingers..." (was Re: SHAVED FISH)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:45:19 GMT
Organization: Nowhere

In article <703359534@macbeth.cs.duke.edu>, kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone) writes:
> In article <1992Apr11.210418.9878@en.ecn.purdue.edu> prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) writes:
> >In article <4765@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, gaukur@rhi.hi.is (Kristjan Gaukur Kristjansson) writes:
> >> In <7APR199220090947@vms2.iscs.nus.sg> fanyl@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (FAN YENG LOON) writes:
> >> 
> >> >"I've got blisters on my fingers!" - Ringo
> >> 
> >> I always thought that the blisters were John's... are they really Ringo's???
> >
> >Yup.  It's been assumed for ages that that was John's screaming voice
> >(as it sounds like him, and that's the kind of thing he would say...),
> >but it IS Ringo...  Sorry to burst your bubble..
> 
> I'd always heard it was Ringo, and that the reason he was saying this was
> that the song was originally 24 minutes long or something...and it sounds
> like Ringo to *me*...

(Wow!  Enough "In article"'s for ya?)

There is a twenty-some-odd minute version of this song floating around
SOMEWHERE, and I'd give my right arm for it...  However, it was not
the same version that was used for the album version.  Check Lewisohn
for more info...

-- 
David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
"But it's not to stand naked under unknowin' eyes,
 It's for myself and my friends my stories I've sung."
                      -Bob Dylan, "Restless Farewell," 1964.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz)
Subject: BeatleTrivia
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:57:37 GMT


     O.K.  Since you're all Beatle experts out there, answer this one:

          How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?
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