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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Can't print from DOS box under Novell/OS2
From: rcooke@actrix.gen.nz (Russell Cooke)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:22:37 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

Hi,
I'm currently using OS2 2.0, GA + SP, on a Novell network (3.11).

I've struck a problem where if I try to print out something from a dos box,
nothing actually goes to any queue, unless I use PRN instead of LPT1/2/3.

eg DIR > PRN works, DIR > LPT1 doesn't.

All works fine from an OS2 window or Full Screen.

I'm not the only one in our building suffering from this trouble.

Any hint/tips/suggestions greatfully appreciated - thanks.

-- 
----------------------------------------------
Russell Cooke

rcooke@actrix.gen.nz
From: mparker@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Fluro)
Subject: X-progs for TCPIP
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Nepean
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:23:11 GMT

I would like to know if anyone has ported any X-programs for
IBMS X-Windows...  Where do you get the X-library's neccessary
to compile X-progs in OS/2... I use tcpip only on pc machines,
and would like to use X-windows for its ability to run programs
across the lan on others screens...

Some programs i would like to see is:

X-term (or some shell program)
X-tank or any other multiuser games
X-note or some editor..
And any other x progs, like screen savers or lockers etc....

Somew seggestions on how to go about doing this myself would be
greatly appreciated...

Regards
	Matthew Parker
From: jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov ()
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP X
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:37:50 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1is5ckINN5rb@crcnis1.unl.edu> price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price) writes:
>francis@ese.ogi.edu (Francis Moraes) writes:
>
>>keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating ) writes:
>
>>>I'm planning on trying out IBM's TCP/IP product, and have some questions
>
>>>(1) Does the base package (02G6968) come with an NFS client, or do I
>>>    need to purchase the NFS Kit (02G6970)?
>
>>No, NFS does not come with the base kit.
>
>
>>>(3) With the X-Window System (02G6980), will it allow me to display Sun's
>>>    OpenWindows programs?
>
>>No problems.
>
>I have had problems: mailtool crashes when attempting to use my display,
>however all of the standard X stuff works, both from a Sun and an RS-6000. I
>haven't tried the SGI yet.
>
>>>(4) How easy is the installation?  One hour, two, four, three days?
>
>>If you know what you're doing, one hour. I'm not a networking expert
>>by any means but I got it up in about an hour. It doesn't require that
>>you know all that much.
>
>I think this is a little optimistic. I wound up getting help from our IBM rep,
>as the straight install didn't work. I could now probably do it in an hour or
>2, but only because I've now read ALL of the readme files, and have done it
>before. The install _program_ does not complete the job, and you need to move
>some files around by hand. (as in the TCP/IP drivers.)
>
>--
>chad
>price@helios.unl.edu
>cprice@molecular.unmc.edu

Strange...all I had to do was follow the directions and run the ICAT
program (and whatever the install program for the low level drivers).
I had the base TCP/IP functionallity and the X extensions up and running
is less than an hour...no moving files by hand...the hardest part was rebooting
the system...:-)

John


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Subject: Fastest ethernet cards?
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:53:07 GMT

I'm integrating an EISA machine on which I plan to run Lanserver 3.0.  In the  
collective wisdom of the net, what is the fastest ethernet card available  
that is supported by OS/2 (It needs to be a 10base-T card)?

-- 
Rolfe Tessem				Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com				New York City
(212) 463-0029				(212) 463-7049 fax
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: rgammon@pan1  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: "Shutdown" doesn't work when using ODINSUP
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:45:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.164417.24508@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> gwalsh@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gerald J. Walsh) writes:

 >> 
 >> Hi!
 >> 
 >> I think this question may have been asked before, but since I just 
 >> recently added this newsgroup to my already HUGE list of newsgroups to
 >> keep track of, I didn't see any previous messages.
 >> 
 >> Getting back on track....
 >> 
 >> I have a 386/33 that is running OS/2 2.0 and I've just managed to get
 >> IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1 to run concurrently with the NetWare Requestor using
 >> ODINSUP.
 >> 
 >> My problem is that I cannot use the "shutdown" option to properly bring
 >> down my OS/2 system before turning off the machine.  When I select 
 >> shutdown, it asks me if this is what I want to do (I select continue)
 >> and then it spins the disk for about 2 seconds and stops.  I'm left
 >> at the desktop and I can continue just as if I never selected shutdown.
 >> 
 >> If I run *ONLY* the NetWare Requestor, I can shutdown fine.
 >> If I run *ONLY* the IBM TCP/IP, I can shutdown fine.
 >> Together, and with ODINSUP, I'm stuck.
 >> 
 >> Sound familiar?  Better yet - got a solution!?
 >> 
 >> Thanks for your time!
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Gerald J. Walsh                     | Internet: gwalsh@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
 >> Jet Propulsion Laboratory           | Phone   : (818) 354-3913
 >> RF and Microwave Subsystems Section | Fax     : (818) 354-2825
 >> M/S 238-528                         | 
 >> 4800 Oak Grove Drive                | 
 >> Pasadena, CA  91109                 | 
 >> 

[Workaround]
Well, not running either package on my machine, but if the intent is to have
a "safe" shutdown with no long chkdsk sessions on power-up, select shutdown,
wait for disk activity to stop (sometimes I see pauses of up to 10 seconds in
disk activity during shutdown), then press Ctrl-Alt-Del.  When the screen clears,
turn off the power.  I have done this several times, I know that it works.

[Solution]
Don't know, perhaps IBM and Novell need to convene a working conference to
address this problem.

--
Regards,
Robert Gammon
(713)-274-3299       (voice)
(713)-274-2324       (fax)
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: is UB02274 still the latest CSD for TCP/IP 1.2.1 ?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 04:57:45 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I have noticed on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/uploads there are two files
tcpcsd2.zip, tcpcsd3.zip that appear to contain a CSD for IBM's TCP/IP
( I don't know what happened to tcpcsd1.zip though ).  Anyway, the
zipped files appear to be newer than the CSD level UB02274 that I have
installed.

Anyone know what the current level is?  Anyone know what happened to 
tcpcsd1.zip?


-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP and PPP ?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:13:51 GMT

In article <mwaldorf.726573728@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE> mwaldorf@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Matthias Waldorf) writes:
>I'm using TCP/IP 1.2.1 (with X and NFS). It works fine, when 
>I'm directly connected to the ethernet cable in our department. 
>Unfortunally there is no SLIP dial-in at our site, only PPP. 
>Is there a way to use PPP with TCP/IP 1.2.1 ? Any ideas are welcome !

Not yet, but reportedly PPP is slated for the next version.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Re: Service pack installation question....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:44:07 GMT

hofstoet@vanessa.fmi.uni-passau.de (Hans Ulrich Hofstoetter) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.023919.17036@cdf.toronto.edu>, a2509kan@cdf.toronto.edu (Damian R. Kanarek) writes:
>> Hi there, all!
>> 
>>  I'm trying to obtain the service pack from hobbes for 5.25' drive....
>> I noticed that the unzipped disk files are > sizeof(5.25' disk)....
>> Am I supposed to leave those files zipped, for the installation
>> software to unzip? Help..... 

You unzip them to .dsk files then you use loaddskf.exe to copy these
disk images to floppies.  all available from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.
--
John Patrick Lestrade        
cnesta::lestrade                       Let's try again in '96!
lestrade@ra.msstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
From: rene@hamel.uucp (Rene Mueller)
Subject: Re: (Maybe) Problem with BACKUP and RESTORE of very large ZIP file ...
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:18:47 GMT

In article <1ifrfdINNmhf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, louis@oak.ucsc.edu (Louis Goldstein) writes:
|> Don't know why you'd get the CRC errors.  Have you tried with VERIFY ON to make
|> sure the disks are good?  If you use ARJ, it'll automatically break the file
|> up into pieces for you so you don't have to use BACKUP at all.  However, if you
|> use DOS ARJ, you loose all the extended attributes (only important when backing
|> up OS/2 software).  Not sure if ZIP even keeps them.
|> 
|> Hope this helps,
|> Louis
Do you have any OS/2-port of arj ??
I only found an unarj which should support HPFS but i didn't if it does so...

(Answers please by eMail)
	rene@math.fu-berlin.de
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: tar-baby bug
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:17:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Our system is a cluster of 13 assorted VAXstations with a 4000/60 as boot
node. Last night it got into a state where if ANY satellite tried to
re-boot, it got as far as being a MEMBER (as shown by SHOW CLUSTER/CONTIN
on the boot node) and then the whole cluster wedged. Halting the rebooted
satellite unwedged it. None of the running cluster nodes were "in distress";
all responded to SYSMAN and login requests, none were short of pool, no
hardware errors, etc.

Eventually I shut down the whole cluster and started from scratch.  

I suspect (and fervently hope!) that this  horrid behaviour is a one-off
mega glitch ... but has anyone else seen it recently? (VMS is 5.5-1) If
its happening in other places I'll let you know and pester DEC, otherwise
I'll forget it as quick as possible.

		Nigel Arnot

		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
		NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)
From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECWindow application problem, help please!
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:11:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In article <1993Jan11.184745.12118@proton.llumc.edu> you write:
#
#Environment:
#VAX4200, VMS 5.5
#
#Problem:
#I have an application built on DECWindow. One special case is
#	a contiguous pop-up windows to get user's inputs
#	(the 1st pop-up window will dismiss after user's keyboard input,
#	 the 2nd pop-up window then comes up, get user's input then dismiss,
#	 the 3rd one does the same as the 2nd one
#	 .... until all required inputs are completed)
#	
#The mouse pointer are RANDOMLY lost in those pop-up window. The later 
#pop-up window, the higher possibility to lose the mouse pointer.
#I have to point and click to get the input to that pop-up window to activate 
#the keyboard input. It seems the pointer have not been handled correctly
#in my application. But I can not find anything wrong. One strange result
#is, if I set the DISPLAY to a SUN SPARCstation 2 OpenWindow 3.0 environment,
#then I do not have this problem.
#
#Could anyone give me suggestions? Is this a bug of DECWindow library?
#


It is not a bug of the DECwindows library but a feature of the Window Manager.
Your problem is that Input Focus is not moving the way you want it to go.  One
way to overcome this is to explicitly grab input focus yourself using the
call XSetInputFocus().  The other is to change to a window manager that lets 
the user control the keyboard focus policy.

---
Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered  - Lazarus Long
a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long
From: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: vms tail utility?
Keywords: tail
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:25:05 GMT
Reply-To: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <clifton.726518426@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu>, 
clifton@rose.brandeis.edu (James Clifton) writes:

|>Does anyone know of a VMS version of the UNIX program 'tail'?
|>

This doesn't help you right now, but you'll see TYPE/TAIL (and /CONTINUOUS)
in OpenVMS VAX V6.
--

Steve Lionel                    lionel@quark.enet.dec.com
SDT Languages Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, NH 03062
From: k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger)
Subject: Re: KMV11 support
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:54:06 GMT

anos@trixie.ineab.ikea.se (Anders Ostling) writes:

>Hi there

>Heard someone say that KMV11 cards will NOT be supported after VMS 5.5.
>Does anybody have more information? I have tried to find any hints or
>real info in the Release Notes, but failed to find any references to 
>this specific card.

The KMV11 is definitely not supported with the PSI software which is 
supplied with DECNET VAX Extensions, It is currently supported
with the standard PSI version (up to 4.3). I dont know DECs 
plans about DECNET Phase V, but they are already late.

Im sure the KMV11 would not be supported in DECNET Phase V. At least
the Release Notes to DECNET VAX Extensions says this.

Sincerely,
Klaus
--
Klaus Steinberger               Beschleunigerlabor der TU und LMU Muenchen
Phone: (+49 89)3209 4287        Hochschulgelaende
FAX:   (+49 89)3209 4280        D-8046 Garching, Germany
Internet: Klaus.Steinberger@Physik.Uni-Muenchen.DE
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: larry@eco.twg.com (Lawrence B. Henry III)
Subject: Re: Alpha, OSF and backups...??
Reply-To: larry@eco.twg.com
Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:58:20 GMT


In article <1993Jan11.164121.28097@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel) writes:
|>For years VMS backup has been an excellent tool for doing
|>backups. (may not have been perfect) Comparing it to Anything
|>available on the Unix platforms was impossible. Their are no
|>production quality backup products on present Unix systems.
|>
|>My question is: 
|>Any of the OSF folks out thier have any info as to a solution
|>to backups on Alpha / OSF....?
|>
|>Tar, Dump, CPIO, etc just dont cut it in a multi vendor production
|>environment.
|>
|>Thanks,
|>Jim

Jim,
	Why don't you try NFS mounting your file systems via an NFS client from
VMS and then use backup ? There are at least two good clients out there for
VMS..

-Larry.
From: mjh@dmu.ac.uk (Mike Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RD54 on VS2000 - Help needed with potential bad blocks.
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:38:57 GMT
Organization: De Montfort University Milton Keynes, UK.

-- 
Mike J. Howarth - SSG Manager
De Montfort University Milton Keynes ENGLAND
+44 908 695511 (Switch) +44 908 834945 (Direct/Voicemail) +44 908 834948 (Fax)
eMail as mjh@dmu.ac.uk (Internet et al) or mjh.uk.ac.dmu (JANET)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Directory Fun...
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:39:45 GMT

In article <73059@cup.portal.com>, Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
> 
> Here's a more detailed update on my experiments with patching the "TYPE"
> field of the first entry in a .DIR file (directory), on my VMS V5.4-3 
> system.  Jerry, Carl, I'll bet you'll both have a field day with this!
> 
> I find that the undocumented DUMP/DIR command recognizes three different
> values in the TYPE field, in the sense that it displays a different keyword 
> when I patch each of the three values into the field, and "*UNKNOWN*" 
> otherwise:
> 
> 	TYPE field	   DUMP/DIR
> 	  value		"TYPE" keyword
> 
> 	    0		     FID
> 	    1		   LINKNAME

Use this one to point at a logical name. You may need to patch in the ASCII the
hard way, Oh, and don't forget its the XQP that you are realy playing with.
Don't be supprised if the fat owl drops by. :-)

~Paul

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: RE: How I contact to ARPANET...
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:17:36 GMT
X-Copyright1: Fuer Veroeffentlichungen AUSSERHALB des Newssystemes gelten MEINE Geschaeftsbedingungen.
X-Copyright2: Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen nach sich ziehen.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25beta

In <71930112170717.0004570754NA1EM@mcimail.com> HOLDREGE+_MP%A1%PacifiCare@MCIMAIL.COM writes:

> Hey guys! What do you think it would cost to send a hit man to Egypt?

In former times every village had its own fool and every king his jester...
...we have Sabry :-)  (and Ehud of course! *cough* *duck*)


\  Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher       \     psi%(0262)45050260103::orakel  \
 \  Student consultant VAX/VMS and networks   \  orakel@dulruu51.bitnet  \
  \  Rechenzentrum  Universitaet Ulm  Germany  \    orakel@rz.uni-ulm.de  \
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Chrislin memory for VAX 4000/500
Reply-To: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:44:52 GMT

Today I was quoted $7700 for a Clearpoint 64MB memory option for a VAX
4000/500, and $3425 for a Chrislin Industries 64MB option for the same
machine. The latter sounds too good to be true. If anyone out there
has experience of Chrislin products, I'd appreciate it if you could
let me know how they did. Thanks!

Steve

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School of Chemical Engineering   Bitnet:   thompson@crnlchme
Olin Hall, Cornell University    Phone:    (607) 255 5573
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From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Question about RMS and MSCP-pair [correction]
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:14:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Thanks carl, thats exactly the sort of tool I was interest in.   It is of course
going into the archive here for FTP and VMSSERv access.
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re:
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:24:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

To summarize my question to INFO-VAX:

> I've got an X Terminal (VT1200, only does X with LAT), which I'm using
> DECwindows/Motif on now.
>
> There's another VAX, accessible only over DECnet, that I'd like to get run
> Bookreader from.  I've tried various incarnations of SET DISPLAY,
> CREATE/TERMINAL, and got to the point that I could get a networked login to
> my node (it was trying to execute X$X0.COM).  I messed with X$X0.COM but
> never got a DECterm to actually display on my X Terminal that was logged
> into the remote VAX.

I received several responses that I could re-define the DECW$BOOK
logicals to point to the remote node.  While this would work for
Bookreader (and satisfied my needs), two people provided a solution which 
allow you to run *any* DECwindows application on the remote node and have 
it display on your X Terminal.  Thanks to Derek Dongray <dongray@GENRAD.COM> 
and Richard Bryan <richard@biop.ox.ac.uk> for this information.  I didn't 
attach Derek's message because I just noticed he'd already posted it to
this group; Richard pointed out the VT1000 documentation described a
method to use a VAX as a DECnet-to-LAT gateway for X.

And thanks to everyone else that responded to the list, or by private
Email.

-Dan Wing, dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet (DGW11)
 Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver
From: david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Ethernet address (sans code) ?
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:20:15 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam


How can one find out the Ethernet address of a node ?

It's VMS 5.5. I know you can do it with a little bit of code and that's
straightforward but how can you do it with NCP, for instance ?

Thanks in advance

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David P. Morgan                        Internet: david@ittpub.nl        |ucannot
ITT Publitec R+D BV                    UUCP:     ...!sun4nl!ittpub!david|readdis
Amsterdam                              PSI:      020412905761212::DAVID |onavt52
From: MACRIDES@SCI.WFEB.EDU (Foteos Macrides)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: MFTU
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:59:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In article <01GT5F5TI3RK00007S@SCI.WFEB.EDU>, Arne Vajhxj <ARNE@KOPC.HHS.DK> writes:
>> on an old DECUS-tape I found a programm called MFTU. It converts VMS-files
>  into
>> ASCII text (suitable for electronic mail exchange) and vice versa, preserving
>> the original VMS file structure.
[...]
> Anyway - I think a better method is to use ZIP (the new version do preserve
> VMS file attributes) to compress the file and use UUENCODE or VMS_SHARE to
> encode the zip-archive for mailing.
>  
>                                                           Arne
>  
> Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
> Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
> Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK

	I learned this a few weeks ago by asking on vmsnet.sources.d, and
thought it might be helpful to those who read Arne's message.

	Although the current version of VMS_SHARE can encode binary (e.g., ZIP)
files, if you MFTU the ZIP archive, the subsequent VMS_SHARE set is *much*
smaller than if you do the VMS_SHAREing directly on the archive.

				Fote

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