HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:04:24 GMT
Organization: Superseding Information, Inc.

In <rdippold.714754071@cancun>, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com sez:
>dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:

>>(cross posting to alt.folklore.urban)  Although the subject of pi==3.0
>>has been beat to death in a.f.u, I don't recall whether or not the
>>subject of the legality of listening to cellular phone conversations
>>has been discussed.  That was the original subject of this posting.
>
>Illegal, illegal, illegal... (Assuming it's not your own conversation,
>of course) and just as unenforcable as laws against sodomy.  There are
>actually newsletters for those who like to listen to cellular phone
>calls (for "informational purposes only" of course).  Just another
>stupid government law with little actual use, but which allows
>cellular phone sellers to tell potential customers that there's a
>level of protection there that doesn't really exist.

FYI, the statutes in question, known collectively as "Title III", are
found at 18 U.S. Code secs. 2510 et seq.


>  Occasionally it
>gets used as a political tool, as in the case in Minnesota (?) where a
>candidate for governor is in trouble for possessing a recording of
>such a conversation.

Doug Wilder of Virginia.

-- 
Morally and artistically, Henry Miller had MORE right to free speech than
Walt Disney and [Father] Coughlin because Miller was an honest man whereas
Disney and Coughlin were liars.   - Ed Nilges
	   Mark Eckenwiler    eck@panix.com     ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
From: jmitchen@axion.bt.co.uk (Jonathan Mitchener)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC2SRE/A handheld mods required
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:56:34 GMT
Reply-To: jmitchen@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs
Organisation: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH UK

Does anyone know of any mods (holding buttons down at switch-on, for
example) for the Icom IC2SRE or IC2SRA (in US) please?   

Also if you have them for the 70cms version  (IC4SRx) too.
The dual bander IC2-WA ? also seems to use the same shell/button layout
and presumeably similar logic in places ?  Perhaps those with "secret"
switch-on button combinations for these rigs could also respond?

I am particularly interested in extending the range of the scanner 
receiver beyond the 950 MHz upper limit (e.g. to 1.3 GHz as per IC-R1).

Thanks for any help,

Jonathan. (G0DVJ).

email: jmitchen@axion.bt.co.uk

p.s. Maybe speak to some of you during HF SSB FD next weekend (5th/6th 
September) !  Will be using call G4IRC - Ipswich Radio Club.  Tnx in 
advance fer points!


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ad815@yfn.ysu.edu (John S. Kennedy)
Subject: Professional Credits for Advanced/Extra
Reply-To: ad815@yfn.ysu.edu (John S. Kennedy)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:39:52 GMT


I just read in the FAQ file that it's possible to get CLEP
credits if you hold an Advanced or Extra class license,
but I also remember something like the SBE giving some sort
of certification for Advanced and Extra class amateur
license holders.

I think I asked about his once before, and, you guessed
it, I forgot to write it down.  <<Grin>>

Any information will be appreciated (particularly considering
that I'm an Extra now <<Grin>>)

              John   KB8GYS

-- 
** John S. Kennedy (513) 541-3078 axinar@tso.uc.edu 72217.416@compuserve.com
The opinions expressed in this message are those of the person speaking,
and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of St. E's Med Center, or the
NPTN, but Mr. Kennedy's opinions SHOULD be made federal law!
From: b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Scanner For Sale
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:59:28 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic


	I am re-posting this to the net because I have not yet received
	payment from the individual who wanted to purchase it, after
	more than a week.  Please respond via E-mail or phone;
	available on first-come, first-serve basis...............
	=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


			FOR SALE:

	Bearcat 200XLT Handheld Scanner.  Only 5 months old, and in
	new condition (only used a few months, never outside its
	carry case, nor outdoors for that matter).

	FEATURES INCLUDE:

	- 200 programmable channels in 10-20 channel banks
	- per channel scan delay
	- memory backup
	- key pad lock
	- side lit LCD display
	- individual channel lockout
	- automatic search
	- 10 priority channels
	- removable ni-cad battery pack w/AC adapter/charger
	- flexible rubber antenna and earphone
	- includes cellular restoration documentation
	- 29-54 MHz, 118-174 MHz, 406-512 MHZ, 806-956* MHz
	* Excludes Cellular

	PRICE: $185.00 (includes shipping UPS ground)


	Contact:  Bob Esposito (215)466-6831, b1y1m39@kato.bell-atl.com


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Bell Atlantic Corp.                             FAX:    (215) 563-3984
Philadelphia, Pa.                    E-mail: b1y1m39@kato.BELL-ATL.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: stankus@leland.Stanford.EDU (John J. Stankus)
Subject: Re: Odd callsign that turned out to not be
Keywords: unreal callsign
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:14:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.185911.15099@midway.uchicago.edu> hayward@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Peter Hayward) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.030908.24707@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>:
>:Today, I was in my car in line at a tollgate.  Looking at the rear view
>:mirror, I saw an RV with what looked like a callsign "n6TiT".  wha...?
>:Can't believe the FCC would give out __TIT!  No, wait a minute, that's
>:a mirror image of the word "TiTan".  The "a" looked like a "6", and the
>:mirror image n looked almost like a regular n.  And the i's and t's
>:are symmetrical.   :-)
>
>
>Well, actually, the FCC either goofed or is enlightened. There is a
>W6TIT, for one...
>
>

The FCC issued me N5PEE.  My dad jokes about me having a
1 x 1 call phonetically.  The Stanford club actually has an 
interesting assortment of calls among some of its members
we have W2FRT (the man who convinced me to keep my distinctive call)
AB6BM and of course me N5PEE.  (Bad jokes about the three states of 
matter being represented to /dev/null)

Of course my brother has the CW call from hell N5EHE. (ok I guess N5HHH would
be worse)


John J. Stankus  N5PEE			Chemistry Department
stankus@leland.stanford.edu		Stanford University
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Uselessness of ARES/RACES
From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:16:48 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.

In article <1992Aug31.140439.20204@samba.oit.unc.edu> Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith) writes:
>In article <7865@public.BTR.COM> grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:
>>                                                                            
>>In fact, I think ARES and RACES groups would                            
>>be much more useful in an emergency if they
>>were to rip out all their radios from their             
>>antenna and light-bar festooned vans and install
>>coffee urns and a donut bar in order to assist
>>the _real_ professional police and fire-fighters.
>>                      
>
>Am I the only one that suspects someone is just egging us on to get a
>reaction out of us?  

	Well, what reaction? The sad truth he is right. The "Emergency
disaster" people I see are a bunch of fat guys with walkie-talkies. They
like to feel important and hang about on PLed (closed) repeaters. 
They get on the closed repeater and tell each other how many radios 
they have once a week which makes them feel good. I have no problem with that. 

	But to believe they will handle serious comms in these days of 
cellular phones and Inmarsat suitcase phones? 

	And as someone said "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" Seems we
don't have an emergency freq. Sailors do, Fliers do, even lowly CBers
do. But if my house collapses on me and I can just reach my walkie
talkie, the question is: "Kenneth, what is the frequency?"

	Wanna talk about recent disasters in my area? (Los Angeles).
A series of earthquakes struck at the end of Field Day (The distaster
weenie orgy/contest). I listened around, the disaster people were
wanking into each others pockets. I had my AM radio on and was updated by
the news media. I had to break into a net to tell them where the
epicenter was. They were so busy being wannabes that they weren't
listening to an AM radio. 

	I will not get into the riots. Trully a disaster.

	So, what does all this teach us? First of all to saty informed
after a disaster, make sure you have whipped down to K-Mart for a cheap
AM radio and some batteries - no licence or Morris required. 	

	But as I said before, if it makes 'em happy, let them play. But
please let's not take this stuff seriously.


-- 
Julian Macassey, julian@bongo.info.com  N6ARE@K6VE.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NA
742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue Hollywood CA 90046-7142 voice (213) 653-4495
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,fido.ham-radio,alt.bbs.ads
From: root@n8emr.cmhnet.org (0000-Admin(0000))
Subject: N8EMR_BBS_INFO
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 05:00:27 GMT


The N8EMR Ham bbs is online to serve the needs of the
amateur radio operators.. 

        HOW TO ACCESS THE N8EMR HAM RADIO TELEPHONE BBS !!!

System Name: 	N8EMR
Phone:		614-895-2553
Login:		hbbs 
Modems:         TB2500 PEP/V.32 support
Times: 		24hrs
IP Address: 	44.70.0.1 
Amateur radio annonymous ftp access is available via the ohio 
netrom/ip network. CMHIP is the Netrom node Id and is known 
by most of the nodes in ohio. (its slow but it works)
This is only via the ohio packet network. This sytem
is not available via the "INTERNET".

To access the system via the dialup, at the login prompt type hbbs 
(lower case only), you will then enter the BBS program. Follow the 
directions from the bbs prompts.
 
I attempt to keep the latest and greatest HAM software on-line, and 
encourage all to upload Here is some of software that is available 
for downloading.

NEWHAM area. Pick the tools you need to become a ham
AMSAT news and satellite keplerian elements
KA9Q TCP/IP Software for various computers, 
ARRL related files
Latest packet bbs programs and utilitys.
Modifications for HAM Rigs and Scanners
DX and contesting programs
Many Packet related programs
Scanner, shortwave and TVRO files and messages.
NASA NEWS...					NEW!!
Online Callsign lookup.				NEW!!

Question or comments to

Gary W. Sanders (gws@n8emr or ...!osu-cis!n8emr!gws), 72277,1325
N8EMR @ W8CQK (ip addr) 44.70.0.1 [Ohio AMPR address coordinator]
HAM BBS 614-895-2553
Voice: 614-895-2552 (eves/weekends)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: alan@bambam.es.com (Alan Brubaker)
Subject: Re: Passing messages to Florida / Hurricane Andrew areas
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:13:14 GMT

Being from California (earthquake country), I have had experience
with this kind of situation, and would like to offer what I hope
are some helpful tips:

1. Listen carefully - there will be numerous nets in operation 
   before, during and after the hurricane strikes. Try to avoid
   interrupting the net unless someone asks for a station in
   your area, particularly during the time immediately following
   the strike.

2. If someone asks you to try to get a message to someone in the
   "affected area", tell them that you can try, but make sure that
   they understand that the power and telephone service is not
   likely to be available even to someone in that area, and there
   may be no way to deliver any message. Also, many people evacuated
   to safe areas, so they would not be at home anyway, if their home
   is still intact at all.

3. After a few days, and for several weeks after the disaster, many
   hams in the affected area will be coming on the air and will be
   passing messages out to all areas of the country. This is when
   you can be of most assistance to them. Some hams in the affected 
   area may be able to take incoming messages - they will announce 
   what areas they can reach locally, and they will be inundated with
   requests.

4. Above all, be patient - the net controls and the stations in the
   affected areas will have many stations trying to call them for
   information and to pass messages. Remember that emergency traffic
   has the highest priority, and outgoing messages from the affected
   area should usually have the next highest priority. When this type
   of traffic has been cleared, then you may be able to get a "health
   and welfare" inquiry in.

5. Listen carefully - try to avoid transmitting unless you can help.
   The QRM will be much less if everyone follows this advice.

6. It is expected that power and telephone service is likely to be
   out of commission for days, and in some cases, weeks to come in
   southern Florida and in whatever area is affected on the Gulf
   Coast. There will be many emergency nets set up particularly on
   20 meters during the day and evenings, and also on 40 and 80
   meters at night.

-- 
Alan Brubaker, K6XO      |~~|_  "Pumps have handles, Hams have names;
<IYF disclaimer>         | *  |mine's Lee, what's yours?" - Lee Wical,
Internet: alan@dsd.es.com|____|KH6BZF, the Bloomin' Zipper Flipper.
From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I get Ham plates?
Keywords: n
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:36:42 GMT
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

furuta@cs.umd.edu (Richard Furuta) writes:
|I was taken by a CT ham plate I saw the other day on I-95 whilst caught in a
|traffic jam.  Regular blue plate with nothing to distinguish it from regular
|CT plates *but* a lightning bolt right after the prefix.  Neat!

|Anyone know of other states with special graphics on the ham license plate?

Massachusetts also uses the lightning bolt.

The original ARRL list says that NH does not have ham plates.  This is
true, but you can get (and a number of hams have) ordinary
personalized (vanity) plates with their call sign (no special
identifier or lightning bolts).  I don't know what it costs.

	/JBL
=
Nets: levin@bbn.com  | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere 
pots: (617)873-3463  |  I want?"  "What are address busses?"  "How do 
              N1MNF  |  icons work?"              --Time-Life Books
From: alan@km4ba.uucp (Alan Barrow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q - Signals (Miami Fl PD uses them)
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:51:40 GMT
Organization: km4ba's packet radio gateway

If you want to hear very professional use of Q signals... Just give a listen
to Metro Dade County (Miami) Police. I think Broward (Ft Lauderdale) uses it
as well.

It sounds really odd at first, but they use them correctly. (Unless you
are one who feels they should not be used on voice.)

I feel they make more sense than 10-codes, but see the arguement about
plain text as well.

Here in NW Atlanta, Our county PD uses "plain text" but the city uses 10 codes.
What happens is that the county is much more verbose to say the same thing, and
will sometimes revert to 10-codes.

to me QRX is much clearer than "wait one", "standby one", etc. (QRX is one
you hear alot in a busy dept like Miami)

Just an observation!


 Alan Barrow  km4ba | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack
 jab@               | ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched
 hpuerca.atl.hp.com | C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
 ..!gatech!kd4nc!   | All those moments will be lost in time -
         km4ba!alan | like tears in rain. Time to die.          Roy Batty
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TH78 Mods
From: rothe@teksun1.mdcbbs.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr)
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:01:45 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA

Can someone please re-post the list of modifications for the Kenwood TH78??

I noticed someone replying about them, but never saw the actual post.



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Repairing NiCad cells
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Grendel's Lair

Want to know the latest technology on rejuvinating those old surplus HT
battery packs you bought at the swap meet? Read on.....

Warning, this post will border on a commercial, please handle accordingly.

Christie Electric Corp. is hyping thier new "Universal Battery Support
System". This is a microprocessor based (read that even more expensive)
type of sealed rechargeable NiCad maintainance equipment. For more info,
contact the Christie Electric Corp. 18120 South Broadway St. Gardena CA
90248-9967 1 (310) 715-1402

Approx cost for the CASP/2000 is $4500

Just think how many of those Radio Shack NiCads, or better yet, those
unmarked swap meet specials, you would have to rejuvinate to break even.

Here's a bit of trivia from a burglar alarm company. Although they are using
Gell-Cell type lead-acid batteries, thier philosophy is a good point with
regard to saving money. They regulary change out every battery at two years.
The money either they or the customer saves by doubling the battery life will
not pay for the losses incured of the alarm fails the one time it's needed.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080
From: gws
Subject: ARRL Bulletin 77  ARLB077
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 02:35:56 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AG99
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 77  ARLB077
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  August 23, 1992
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB077
ARLB077 Andrew update

Hurricane Andrew (25.4 N, 77.3 W at 0000Z, August 24, Winds to 145
mph) is expected to hit the southeastern Florida coast near dawn
monday.  Amateurs are advised to monitor the Hurricane Watch Net frequency
14.325 MHz, International Assistance and Traffic Net on 14.303 MHz,
and Florida emergency nets on 3940, 3950 and 7247 khz, but to not
transmit on these frequencies except in response to instructions net
control stations.  An additional net is convened on 14.268 mhz by
United Nations HQ station 4U1UN, and is receiving reports from
affected areas.

Welfare inquiry traffic should not be accepted from the public until
authorities in the affected areas indicate they are able to process
inquiries.  Priority must be given to immediate disaster relief
communications.  Control of the communication situation lies with
the amateurs and authorities in the affected areas.
NNNN

From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:01:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Uselessness of ARES/RACES
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:

>In fact, I think ARES and RACES groups would                            
>be much more useful in an emergency if they
>were to rip out all their radios from their             
>antenna and light-bar festooned vans and install
>coffee urns and a donut bar in order to assist
>the _real_ professional police and fire-fighters.

OK, I'll go on the (dubious) assumption that you really believe that.

You should talk to Dan Nicholas, the (non-ham) Director of Emergency
Services in Sonoma County.  He is always willing to praise to the skies
Amateur's abilities in emergency communications, as he did in a
recent interview on KFTY TV.  We do have a very active RACES group
in the county.

AL N1AL
From: awpaeth@watpix.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Wm Paeth)
Subject: "N" connectors and Radio Shack Canada (Re: PL-259s on 9913 Coax)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:32:38 GMT

Other VE's (I mean Canadian amateurs - the original VEs) take note:

I scored a dozen (12) "N"-type connectors from Radio Shack for $30CDN this AM.
The set included Tee's, chassis and cable mounts, plus "barrels". Apparently RS
in Canada is no longer stocking this item. I found them in the half-price grab
bag and just made the manager an offer he couldn't refuse (also snapped up a
few few mica trimmers in original blister packs while at it)..

Tandy in the US seems to be pro ham -- "N"s might still go at list price. I can
not figure where RS Canada stands on the ham market: the 10m rig was at $200CDN
last week, the 2m rig not yet introduced, but coax and 239's are still stocked.

   /Alan Paeth
   VE3AWP/KD3XG
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:14634 alt.folklore.urban:22305
From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: lawson@aldia.UUCP (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Aug25.202315.21845@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
>>(cross posting to alt.folklore.urban)  Although the subject of pi==3.0
>>has been beat to death in a.f.u, I don't recall whether or not the
>>subject of the legality of listening to cellular phone conversations
>>has been discussed.  That was the original subject of this posting.
>
>It is illegal according to the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, but
>it is unenforcable.  The ECPA is poorly written, it has many areas that are
>ambiguous.

While I don't know about the legality of eaves-dropping on cellular
conversations, I recall a bit from some pseudo-news program a year or
so back indicating that (at that time at least), cellular
communications did not have all the protections that traditional phone
lines did.  In particular, law enforcemnet did not have to get a
warrent to listen to your cellular calls.  I think this had to do with
some IRS investigation.
-- 
Drew Lawson                      If you're not part of the solution,
lawson@acuson.com                you're part of the precipitate