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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:53:00 CDT
From:         STEFFERJ@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      WITH and sentences

Vanderbilt was one of the beta test sites for NOTISearch and I, like
the chairs of the OPAC SIG, recall no conversations about the change
in how WITH would operate.  The whole unveiling of NOTISearch was
kind of hush-hush because of the sensitivity of the relationship with
BRS.  When staff from NOTIS came to Vanderbilt to ask us to
test the new keyword engine, we were cautioned to mention nothing
about it until the official announcement was made by NOTIS.  We were
not consulted about any of the new features or changes in functionality;
we were merely informed of the differences.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:32:05 EST
From:         "MARY POPP, LIBRARY INSTRUCTION, 5-4265" <POPP@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: MDAS Sentence Option

In answer to Stan Kasper's question about "with" I have to say that
I do not remember ever discussing any change in the way the "with"
option works.  Does anyone have more information?

Mary Pagliero Popp, co-chair, OPAC SIG
Library Instruction, Main Library E172
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN  47405
(812) 855-4265
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:43:49 EDT
From:         Dave Block <DEBLOC1@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LBC90 -- some questions

You just need to change the call number tables in the program, e.g.,
label CNLC, CNSUDOCS, etc. as appropriate.  These tables indicate
which MARC tags to search for call number information, and you can add
the 086 tag there.

Dave Block, Tech1
University of Kentucky
(606) 257-4263
DEBLOC1@UKCC.uky.edu
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:45:00 AST
From:         RE_SMITH@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU
Subject:      MEDLINE keyword index display - PROBLEM

We're running 5.0.1 with MDAS 1.2. Just this p.m. we discovered that the
author displayed in the Keyword Index (the far right hand column) has
nothing to do with the actual authors of the article.  His name does not
show up on Screen 1 as part of the listed authors, BUT, on the 2d, 3rd,
etc. screens, the author from the index shows up again, this time in the
upper left position on the screen, in the correct position for the
author just before the continued title.

Anyone else had this happen?  We're searching through the indexing
process now to see if something is wrong with the process, with the
display tags, indexed tags, etc.

Thanks for any help.  Respond directly if you like:  re_smith@upr1.upr.
clu.edu.

Rey Smith, Lib 1, Univ. of Puerto Rico
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:27:49 EDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Betsy Swain <20771ENS@MSU>
Comments:     Originally-From: Barbara Hieber <BAH@PITTVMS.BITNET>
From:         Betsy Swain <20771ENS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      mdas/opac question

I want to thank everyone for the help in changing our MDAS OPAC name.
I used Barbara Hieber's suggestion, and it worked like a charm
(although it was a little scary 'deleting' my OPAC!).

Betsy Swain, Tech1
20771ens@msu
Michigan State University
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The following are instructions I obtained from NSI to change the
OPAC name on the Database Selection Menu.

Use the MSYS command selection #2 to deactivate the current OPAC
PF3
Choose #5 to delete
Choose OPAC
Choose Y to confirm
Choose #3 to add database
Enter new opac name and description
At the question "Is this public catalog (Y/N) answer Y and press return
NOTE:  don't enter any other information on that screen)
Choose #2 to activate the new database name

One unexpected result of this occurs in LB720.  Statistics are
done for both LUIN and the local name, but the ones for the local
OPAC name are all zeroes.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:41:44 MST
From:         Frank Fowler <FFS1@UTAHLIB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: QUIKMERG

Maryanne,

I have set LCN100JC for 3 steps:

1) QUIKMERG with MODE=TEST & RUNTYPE=MERGE.
2) Delete & Redefine the MHI Index.
3) Repro output cartriges from QUIKMERG into the MHI Index.

Works for us.

Frank Fowler
VM/VSE System Programmer
Marriott Library
University of Utah
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:46:09 EDT
From:         Donna Alsbury <FCLDDA@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Release 5.1 Serials Questions
Comments: To: NOTISACQ@CUVMA.BITNET, Notis-L <notis-l@tcsvm.BITNET>

Stuart Miller has indicated that he is willing to address another round
of questions about Release 5.1 serials at the Serials SIG meeting at NUGM.
DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING QUESTIONS IS SEPTEMBER 20.  Since the 20th is a
Sunday, you may want to plan on sending me your questions by Friday the
18th.

In addition to questions you may still have about 5.1, feel free to send
any that, although you may already have received an answer, could be
interesting/informative for other users. (Provided that they were not
covered in one of the previous SIG question/answer sessions.)

Submit questions to:

Donna Alsbury                           Internet: FCLDDA@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU
Florida Center for Library Automation   BITNET:   FCLDDA@NERVM
2002 NW 13th St., Suite 320             FAX:      (904)392-9185
Gainesville, FL 32609
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:11:17 EDT
From:         Rob Kairis <RKAIRIS@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More KW anomalies

Susan,

Eventhough the NOTIS LMS release 5.0.2 documentation describes punctuation
normalization for the author, title, and subject indexes, it appears to be
employed in the keyword index as well.

Rob Kairis
Systems Librarian
Kent State University
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:24:44 EDT
From:         Tom Jacob <TOMJ@MONTCOLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More KW anomalies

Sorry, I forgot to mention that we are 5.0.1. I don't know when it
changed since the explain screen shows a "$".  But then, maybe we need
to do some more editing.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:46:25 EDT
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From:         Steve Burton <S0BURT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      CHAT: Programming Language of Choice

Division, Tech Services
Phone: 588-6756
Yay Stan! A progressive person if ever I have heard of one. I fully agree that
COBOL is a "dinosaur" and just hasn't had the good grace to die out. C is
indeed the industry rage now. And it isn't all that hard to read, just another
language. COBOL looks kind of funny at first, too.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:24:58 EST
From:         Merri Beth Lavagnino <MLAVAGNI@UVMVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More KW anomalies

In the OPAC manual, release 5.0.2, on page 99, there is a chart of
characters that are treated as blanks in keyword searching. The dollar sign
is one of them.

Merri Beth Lavagnino
University of Vermont
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:02:00 CDT
From:         VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Check shelf msg.

    The message can be changed in LPC292P.

Maryanne Vaughan
Vanderbilt University
VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:05:08 CDT
From:         "Anne L. Highsmith (409-845-8111)" <K026AH@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Global renewal in 5.2?

I meant to send this directly to one of the re-write team, then
deleted the message that had your names and addresses handy.

So ..... has there been any discussion of adding a global renewal
capability to circ in 5.2, i.e. the ability simply to enter a patron
id and renew all items charged to that patron? This is the only lack we
feel in NOTIS over our old system and would like to see it included in
NOTIS. Up to now, we have been using a locally-developed micro-based
program which culls item id's from patron charge screens and then checks
all the items back out. If there's no global renewal in 5.2 and the
patron charge screen may change, then I have to start planning for a
re-write of our local doo-dah.

Is anybody else interested in this?

Anne Highsmith
NOTIS Coordinator
Texas A&M U.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:18:53 EDT
From:         Betty Landesman <BETTY@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: WITH

I'm the "new" co-chair of the OPAC SIG.  Mary Popp continues as co-chair.

Betty Landesman
Gelman Library
George Washington University
BETTY@GWUVM   or   BETTY@GWUVM.GWU.EDU
202-994-1333
FAX: 202-994-1340
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:47:01 -0400
From:         "Lynne Altstatt" <altstatt@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject: Attention Acquisitions SIG members
Comments: To: notisacq@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, notis-l@tcsvm.BITNET

Stuart Miller from NOTIS called me this week and asked that I poll the SIG
members to determine the current "hot topics" in Acquisitions.  I need to
determine what the membership believes are the important issues and give
this information to Stuart by the middle of September.  Notis will have a
representative at our membership meeting at NUGM to discuss our concerns.

Please send your ideas to me by Monday, September 14th at one of the
following addresses.

Lynne Altstatt
Head of Acquisitions
University of Pennsylvania
3420 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6276         TELEPHONE: (215) 898-5932

INTERNET:  altstatt@a1.relay.upenn.edu    FAX:  (215) 898-055

I hope to see some thoughtful/thought provoking questions.  We don't often
get a chance to interact with NOTIS in this fashion.

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT:
The results of the Acquisitions SIG enhancement survey.

RANK

 1.  Index the vendor's invoice number.
 2.  Index the vendor address file.
 3.  Ability to regenerate purchase orders.
 4.  Provide electronic linkages.
 5.  Display online the items charged against a fund.
 6.  Provide a journal file with printed documentation showing all
     transactions against a fund record and expenditure class.
 7.  Develop a purge program to remove the oldest fiscal year subrecords
     from the fund records.
 8.  Chain memo statements.
 9.  Templating for fund, order, bibliographic, and invoice records.
10.  Expand the expired action date list so that it includes more
     information about the order and a decision about handling can be made from
     the printout.

69 responses from 62 sites were received.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:31:31 PDT
From:         James Cruse <CN.NX8@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject: Chat-L: Urban legend?

REPLY TO 08/12/92 06:22 FROM NOTIS-L@TCSVM.BITNET "NOTIS/DOBIS discussion group
list": Re: CHAT-L: CoBOL vs. COBOL

Steve,

Your story sounds like its striaght out of one of Brunvand's books.
 Urban legends are an interest of mine and I am constantly
fascinated by how tenanciously they are held.  Is your source just
a story told by a friend or is there any real evidence that it
happened?  I think its just fascinating that one can find people who
are absolutely certain that their local paper carried the story
about how a woman was bitten by a snake in the arm of a coat at the
local K-Mart. Once, on a folklore bulletin board, I raised the "if
your college room-mate commits suicide, the college will give you
all A's for that semester" legend.  Well, not only did several
people claim that was a policy at their school, but several folks
jumped all over me for trivalizing the terrible consequences of
suicide.

Jim Cruse

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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:33:58 CST
From:         Ing Claudia Xhonane Ortiz Meza <cxortiz@MTECV2.MTY.ITESM.MX>
Subject:      request...

I'm a student of Management Information Systems (Masters degree) at
Technological Institute of High Studies of Monterrey (Instituto
Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey, ITESM, Mexico), and
I'm preparing mi thesis on collection department automation. Actually,
my thesis is based on serials collections, and I'd like to know about
experiences in this area, references, points of view, suggestions, etc.

The fact is that I want to design a Data Base Model for this area, from
a traditional performance, so that we could improve and take advantage
of available resources, as human, hardware, information, etc.

Right up until now, I've investigated in almost 70 articles about, but
unfortunately, they haven't been deep on the exactly I want..., just some cases,
 some tendencies some Co. tendencies, etc.
But nothing specially on serials collections.
I think something could  help me is the experience of other
universities, how did they started, why, waht kind of alternatives did
they have, why decided what they decided, which have been their
evolution, what could they suggest to start on, how important is to do
this job, etc.

I'll appreciate any help, please forgive my poor english, and thanks in
advance for your time.

Sincerely yours,

Xhonane.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:00:42 EST
From:         Frank White <FWHITE@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      Re: KWB Truncation Puzzler
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              17 Aug 1992 13:51:58 EDT from
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:51:58 EDT Rob Kairis said:
Yes, you are absolutely right. Thanks, Rob.

>Frank,
>
>For your 4th search, does the line just above the command line say:
>
>     Search limited to first 100 terms generated by truncation.
>
>If it does, the truncation of micro? produces more than 100 terms.  Since the
>search is limited, it may not retreive as many records as microf?
>
>Rob Kairis
>Systems Librarian
>Kent State University


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Phone:    (519) 253-4232 ext 3163         |        GTO 3.0
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:27:00 CDT
From:         LIBRDKM@OSUCC.BITNET
Subject:      CHAT-L: PL/I and COBOL

One of my programmer friends swears that a good programmer can
write COBOL in _any_ language.

Dan Marmion
Oklahoma State University
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:39:19 EST
From:         Debbie Morrow <morrowd@GVSU.EDU>
Subject:      LBC90 -- some questions

   We have just spent the last year accumulating records for our Gov Docs
   collections on tapes using OCLC's MicroCon service.  We hope to load the
   tapes into our database in the next few weeks/months, and I am hoping to
   do it as painlessly as possible (it will be painful enough once the
   records hit conflict and error detection...).  We are on 5.0.2/MVS and I
   have some questions.

   I would like to use good ol' warm fuzzy LBC90 to load with; do I recall
   that this is still possible in 5.0-world?  If YES, then:
   So far we have run the tape against LBC90, but not LBC10 and Repro;
   processing finishes but of course the generic LBC90 doesn't know about
   processing 086's, so every record is processed with the "no call number"
   message-- can anyone give me an idea of how difficult it is to get LBC90
   to process an 086 as it would an 099?  (I think that will be sufficient
   to get a SuDoc number into HLDG.)
   Any other hints or observations will be appreciated -- many thanks,

   Debbie

   Debbie Morrow / Automation Librarian/LIB1
   University Library / 108 JHZ
   Grand Valley State University / Allendale  MI   49401
   616/895-3581 / Internet: morrowd@gvsu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:22:15 EST
From:         Frank White <FWHITE@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      KWB Truncation Puzzler
Comments: To: notis-l@vm.tcs.tulane.edu

Any KWB wizards out there who can unravel this one?

SEARCH STATEMENT                               RESULTS
===================================================================
1) k=theses and microfiche                     143 hits
2) k=theses and microfi?                       222 hits
3) k=theses and microf?                        235 hits
4) k=theses and micro?                           2 hits

Why only 2 hits for search # 4?


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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:14:04 -0400
From:         "Gina E. Jones" <BWELL@ECSVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      More KW anomalies

Has anyone tried the old truncation symbol lately?  I was giving a demo last
week and wanted to show the "No Keyword Entries Found" screen.  To my surprise,
when I typed 'k=iron$', I got hits!  It seems that the dollar sign is just
ignored because my search retrieved items with the word 'iron' but not items
with the term 'ironia' or irons.  Have I missed some documentation recently?
We are using 5.0.2.  Could someone else try this at their site?

Thanks,
Susan Wood, LIB1
Burroughs Wellcome Co.
(919) 248-4164
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:17:15 EDT
From:         Daniel Kirchner <344PWCF@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      CHAT-L: CoBOL vs. COBOL

Dear CoBOL-ers and CoBOL-ettes,
Hooo, boy!  Did you ever notice how sneaky promoters can be?  They will
sometimes say or do some subtle, sneaky little thing to get your atten-
tion?  I have to confess to save my conscience from self-destructing.

I have been an avid COMMONBUSINESSORIENTEDLANGUAGE-er for many years
and have been aghast to see it dragged thru the mud as a 'DEADD' (sob)
language in the wake of 'newer', more 'live' languages over the recent
years.  I felt something had to be done to revive interest in this beaut-
iful, wild creature for fear that programmers would abandon it because it
wasn't considered an 'in' language.  (Actually, I was a little fearful
that all the hundreds of thousands of still-running programs would have
to be rewritten in a different language in order for computing to stay
current..an ugly job.)  Back to the point, and I admit to this, I put the
little 'o' in there to pique (or is it poque) people's interest so's I
might get a little discussion going with the hopes that some publicity
would help rekindle the love and admiration programmers used to have for
C O B O L.  Yep, 'COBOL' is correct (gosh, I hope so).  This has really
warmed the cockles of my heart...time for a fresh dry ice pack.  Thanks
to all of you who have helped in my project.  Isn't COBOL wunnerful?
Now let's get out there and 'COBOL' something, anything...just do it.
**************************************************************************
*This has been made possible by a grant from the SFTPOC, or is it SFTPoC?*
*Anyway, it is 'Society For The Preservation of COBOL'.  8^)             *
**************************************************************************
Dan Kirchner - (a very slowly recovering COBOLic)
TECH 1 Central Michigan University     "Underwhelmment Specialist XXV"
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:18:59 EST
From:         Jim Zarecor <JLZ@JHUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: GTO overlay problem

     Possibly the OCLC number is a duplicate; if the GTO match finds
more than one in the standard number index, it creates a new record
instead of overlaying. Or, if there are multiple 035 fields, one of
them may be duplicated.

Jim Zarecor    Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore   JLZ@JHUVM
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:32:20 CDT
From:         Barbara <BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More KW anomalies

The install instructions for NOTISearch 1.0 included changing the $ on the
explain screen to a ?.  The change is effective with the installation of
NOTISearch keyword searching.

Barbara Baughman                *********************************
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