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From: akmaani@chimi.engr.ucdavis.edu (Alan K. Maani!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DS9 in Sacramento???
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:19:49 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

Does anybody know what station DS9 will be on in Sacramento?  I've seen ads
for it on KBHK and KNTV in the bay area but I'd rather not have to watch it
on those stations since the reception is bad here (most of the time)...

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From: rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us (Robert W. Mech)
Subject: Re: THE ENTERPRISE'S TOILETS? READ! RESPOND! LAUGH!
Organization: UUMEME Public Access Xenix
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 23:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.233301.13230@bsu-ucs> 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>What devices are in the Enterprises bathroom?

To many to list...

>Warp powered toilets?

Where would you want to go on a toilet?

>The captains logs?

Would you want everyone to know at starfleet what time you took a dump?

>Tampons of the future?

Ask Troi about that, she is always on the rag.

>Condoms?

No neeed, with the modern medical technology, you can have a vasectomy (sp?)
and then have it undone when you want kids.

>Porno material like at truck stops?

Who needs that when you can just generate women on the holodeck?

>Laser guided flush toilets?

What are you guiding?

>Endless toilet paper?

I assumed you would just replicate what you needed.

>Towels with a big E on it like a motel?

But of course.

>Phone number if who to have a good time with?

The ships autocleaning programs would remove it.

>Bad jokes on the wall?

More bad jokes like this list your curious about.
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From: firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Picard on ET
Date: 13 Dec 1992 00:59:34 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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  Just caught the tail end of an interview with Patrick Stewart on Entertainmnt
Tonight.  They showed some scenes of Picard being tortured by the Cardassians
in "Chains of Command", or whatever the title is.  Don't know which part
though.

firenza

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From: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Subject: Re: Dear Saint Nick
Keywords: Christmas,Picard,Creative
Reply-To: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Organization: Applicon
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:52:37 GMT

In article <rountree.1.723847158@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca>, rountree@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca (Eric Rountree) writes:
|> Here's another little creative endeavour I thought you folks might like to 
|> peruse:
|> 
|> ====================
|> 
|> Dear Saint Nick:
|> 
|> I am writing to you on behalf of myself and my senior officers. We could
|> all use a lift this Christmas, as we have been under intense pressure
|> during the last few months, what with the mediocre scripts, numerous
|> inconsistencies, and general lack of direction under which we have been
|> suffering.
|> 
|> I'd like to take this time to put in a few requests. There are some items
|> that I know would make my officers and myself quite happy indeed, should
|> they appear under our tree (Guinan has obligingly had one installed in
|> Ten-Forward). I hope you will be able to provide us with at least some of
|> them.
|> 
|> First of all, I would like to have new shields for the Enterprise. This
|> has been on my mind for some time now, but that last altercation with the
|> Ferengi, during the short time I was in the form of a twelve-year-old,
|> quite clinched it for me. If a band of large-eared runts in antiquated
|> Klingon cruisers can cripple a Galaxy-class starship in under two
|> minutes, the situation warrants serious attention. By the way, while I
|> was in that twelve-year-old form, I found the experience of having hair
|> quite pleasant. Perhaps you could arrange . . . No, scratch that. It
|> would probably seriously undermine my credibility.
|> 

      << more delightful stuff deleted for the sake of brevity >>

|> 
|> Yours Truly,
|>  
|> Jean-Luc Picard, 
|> Commanding Officer, 
|> U.S.S. Enterprise, NCC-1701-D


      Not to mention a new holodeck.  Damn thing keeps trying to
      kill his officers, and he has yet to complete a Dixon Hill
      adventure.  And Barclay deleted all the good stuff, too.


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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:23:38 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <cboerm48.724630812@ursa> cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:
<
<	Okay, I've got a question here: Does anyone know FOR SURE what the
<abbreviation is for Deep Space Nine? Is DSN or DS9? I've seen both
<used here, many times, and was just wondering.
<
<	I s'pose DSN would make sense cause it's similar to all the others 
<(TOS, TAS, TNG) in that it has three letters, but I kind like the
<looks of DS9. So, anyone with information?

I'm officially using DS9.  The reason, which I posted earlier, is that Michael
Piller wears a hat, designed by Rick Berman, that contains the abbreviation
DS9.  Can't be much more official than that.

He was wearing the hat when on QVC and was again wearing it during the
interview for the promotional material that was recently uplinked.

I have spoken...


































Oh ya, I'm wearing my armor :-)
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From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Troi blown! Jelico cool! Spot DSN? READ!!!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:32:45 GMT

boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:

[orig. attribution missing]
>>Spot the cat goes to Deep Space Nine as the official mascot!!!
>>He is Lt. Commander of the Cat Forces!

>Would those happen to be the same cat forces found in Red Dwarf?  I can't 
>wait! B)

Yes, the very same! The second Cat ship was caught in a temporal rift and
thrown back in time almost three million years, where they were "discovered"
by the Federation. The transporter technology was not finetuned to the
intricacies of Cat physiology and "regressed" them back to a more feline
form, as opposed to a humanoid form. As a relatively new race in the
Federation (as well as having though patterns out of step with the
militaristic bent of the Federation), Cats are not often seen in the ST
universe, let alone in positions of power. On the other hand, there's
always Ensign Toonces, the helm officer.

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From: hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:16:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Dec10.010113.25145@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.083609.16928@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>>
>>	Two things about the Next Generation have been
>>bothering me. (1) No explanation about why the original Klingons
>>look different from the new ones (2) No episode dealing with AIDS.
>
>There have been episodes dealing with AIDS-like diseases, i.e. no cure.
>There was one the first year- the one with Troi's wedding and mother.


TRoi's mother _IS_ an incurable disease.


Just kidding. I wish Majel Barrett had her own show.


Deep Space Woman!

Pushy Broad From Outer Space!

Knows All! Tells All! Reads Your Thoughts!


Hmmm..


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Computationally challenged!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:15:54 EST
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek writers make another continuity mistake
 <kboss35.724529939@ursa>

In article <kboss35.724529939@ursa>, kboss35@ursa.calvin.edu (Karen Boss) says:

>>I have noted some continuity mistakes also....it seems that at one point they
>say that Wes was only a baby when his father died....but then, after some
>thinking and a slight discovery, a friend and I figured out that he had to
>have
>been at least 5 years old.....

>In "The Bonding", when Wes was asked to relate how he felt when he found out  s
>hi
>dad died, he said he acted like everyone expected him to...so he had to have
>been old enough to understand death....

>It was "Encounter at Farpoint" when Beverly brought Wes with her on the
>Turbolift that Picard saw him for the first time since Jack's death.  Picard
>didn't recognize Wesley.....was it because Wes had been just a baby at the    ?
>time

>It just doesn't seem to fit somehow.....can anyone clear it up for me?  Or am
>I
>correct in thinking that this was another goof-up by the writers?

>Please reply!!!!!

I think I can clear this up....When did your mom stop regarding you as a baby?
My mom stopped calling me "her baby" at around 10 or 12, but I don't think she
ever believed that I grew up...

Jeff Payne
Penn State Ogontz Campus              |Bitnet:   JSP6@PSUVM
Computer Assisted Learning Center     |Internet: payne@toto.oz.psu.edu
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       -Q to Amanda in "True Q", ST-TNG
From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cardassians first appearance on STTNG? (possible *SPOILERS*!!)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:16:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


The title of the episode introducing the Cardassians, with the
renegade Capt. Maxwell attacking them, was "The Wounded."  It was
episode #85 from the 4th season, written by TNG staffer Jeri
Taylor.

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& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Show Us the Enterprise-B and E!
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:11:52 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <PqqTVB1w165w@bluemoon.use.com> djredick@bluemoon.use.com (Darrin J. Redick) writes:
>cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>> There have been a lot of posts speculating about where the next
>> movies and seasons of Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation
>> will go.  I think that they should show us the newer versions of
>> the Enterprise!

>> For example, how about Star Trek VII?  Let's have Chekhov get his 
>> first command.  Like Sulu's, it would be an Excelsior-Class, the
>> Federation's newest ship-of-the-line, and it would be called the
>> Enterprise-B!  It's probably not feasible, though...they'd probably
>> have to destroy or retire the Enterprise-A first...
>> 

>If they did that, then the Enterprise-D wall chart that was just put out
>several months ago would be in error, since it shows a different captain
>for the Enterprise-B, Tomas someone or another.

So?  Non-film material isn't canon anyway.

-- 
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University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you! )

    "What about you, Captain?" Krill asked.  "Do you seek death, or do you
run away from it?
    "Neither," Kiroth answered.  "Death seeks me.  It will find me in time.  
To run is simply a waste of energy.  To embrace death is sheer madness.  I 
await death.  When it comes, I will be ready."
    "To fight, or to flee?"
    Kiroth looked at his XO with barely contained horror.  "To die."
		- "Escape From The Holdfast", by Jim Hart; Captain's Log #8
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From: aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu (AMY E. ECKERT)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:05:27 GMT

>In article <1992Dec15.132949.9419@iscsvax.uni.edu> hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Mike Hollander suggested a female captian for the E.  While he believes it may
>be ok for stardate 4507 whatever it won't work for 1992.  Inferior earthlings
>of the late 20th century still watch the show and it wouldn't work.  The show
>would further stall out of its already death spiral and crash.  What I mean is
>that female captains are a great idea but the way things are now it wouldn't
>work for the show.  Sorry ladies but the perceptions aren't there.  Maybe in a
>few years when we see more women CEO's.  The postheroic leader hasn't developed
>enough yet.
>
I think that your reasoning is kind of circular.  In order for women to be
accepted as leaders, we need to have more women leaders, but they won't be
accepted because there aren't very many, and around and around and around.
The way to break this is to put women in positions of leadership and by
doing so change people's perceptions.  I vote for a female captain!

Amy
aeckert@diana.cair.du.edu

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From: lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Show Us the Enterprise-B and E!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:35:03 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
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In article <tomcat.724217665@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>
>
>	contracts for each cast member.  In any case, Richard Arnold
>	had stated that some of the cast members may re-new, but
>	Stewart is not one of them..as well as Spiner and Dorn.
	^^^^^^^

	When asked by Letterman whether there would be any movies, Stewart
said that he hoped so.


Bryon

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: AIDS and Klingons
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 23:22:44 EST

In article <mark.0xol@legend.akron.oh.us>
mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel) writes:
 
>
>In article <168B91354D.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>>
>> In article <1992Dec9.083609.16928@Virginia.EDU>
>> particular.  It's just that I've read reports and articles about how
>> a character, [usually Geordi] SHOULD be gay; that there SHOULD be
>> gay characters or story based on homosexuality)  It's not just homosexuality;
>> it's religion, abortion, animal rights, or any other push button issues
>> out there.
>
>It seems that TNG has already expressed an opinion on being gay.
>It was in "The Outcast" and it was favorable.  Or you could just
>say that they were expressing the fact that a great part of
>society still shuns homosexuality.  They didn't do it directly
>with a crewmember being gay, but I think the idea of a sexless
>race with deviants hit it quite nicely.
>--
 
   And if you read some of the followups to that episode on this net and
on some magazine articles, a lot of people took it to task because
   1): It did not involve actual homosexuality
   2): It did not involve any of the main characters, so the effect
was diluted.
   (Obviously, I disagree with both of those premises.)
 
   A lot of it was posted on (believe it or not) r.a.s. (no further prefix)
and was crossposted to rec.sexuality, feminism, etc, etc, (so presumably
the posts originated in the other bboards.)
   I liked most of "The Outcast", though I think the point of the show
could have been made with a lot less preaching.  IMO I think the story
would have been just as effective (on its social theme part) with some less
preaching, and it would have helped a lot on its adventure aspect by
rediverting some of that time into building up the stealth rescue mission
by Riker and Worf.  You wouldn't lose much on its anti-gaybashing theme,
but you would have gained a LOT on the characterizations and military
prowess of Riker and Worf, and put to rest a lot of chatter about how Riker
is a lousy commander, and Worf is all huff and no substance.  (This latter
paragraph is strictly my 2 credits' worth.)
 
      Junsok Yang
From: nyoung@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Why the shift from 3 to 4 section watch?
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:48:25 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Oh, goodie, I get to start a flame war! What is it, MAN?

Having served my time in one form of hell, I can assure you that
going from three to four section watch duty will not be helpful
in combat situations. When we left for a cruise, we stood four section
duty, shifted to two section duty and upped the DEFCON to II, which
meant we ran 12 on and 12 off, port and starboard. When we pulled
into a port, we ran 12 on and 24 off, three section duty. It was
rugged, but we got quite used to it. Personally, I would stand 
port and starboard any day over four section duty, cause it ain't
no 6 hour watch. Some are 4 hours, some are 8. Think about it.

Any captain who shifts from three to four section duty with an eye
on tightening up the ship is full of it. He'd stick to three section
until he got into hot territory and then shift to port and starboard.

Look at it this way. You have 200 people in the division. You run
three sections of watches (and where did this alfa, gamma delta stuff
come from? We had sections by number....) which means that you have
about 66 peeps in a section. When you run four sections, you get
50 peeps in a section. You just lost 16 peeps. When you port and
starboard, you have 100 peeps, with enough to cover for each guy 
and each position twice. Think about it that way. 

This, of course, is based on the assumption that PQS is run on the E.
Everybody learns every watch position well enough to cover for each
other guy. You're a gunner. You learn to run the trim controls. You're
a OT (a sonar tech with good ears and a memory for detail), but you
have to learn to run the tubes. You're a torpedoman. So you know that
drill and you can run the trim and also do the sonar watch. Only after
you've done that do you even begin to get liberty. So if you have a 
crew of whatever the E has (3,000), then you have, in effect, the
ability to run the ship with six folks, the rest being fragged at some
point. Why the hell would you go from three section watch rotation
to four? You'd have to be nuts!

So much for the writers having any experience in the "real world"
of military operations, eh?

Nils

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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: Let's get one thing clear.  (Spoilers??)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:45:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.042030.21346@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
>In a previous article su@prag.com (Sean D. Ackley) spake...
>>Possible spoilers?...
>>2 Page breaks for good luck..
>

>>
>>
>

>>This message is for those people that think Jelico is a butt head.
>>
>>Look!! It possibly could be wartime!!!  What would happen if the commander
>>of our troops overseas was a pantywaiste?  (They would all be dead!)
>>
>>Picard is a good captain, but he would definately have to become more rigid
>>during wartime.  Since he is usually a captain during peace time there is
>>no way to judge what he would be like.
>
>Au contraire, but in the episode where the Enterprise C comes through the time
>rift. The Federation is suddenly at war with the Klingons... and Picard seemed
>to be doing a fine job as a wartime Captain.

Yep. Everybody died.....




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