From: wmleolau@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: On the Baby (Re: HK Airport Project
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.131606.1@cua.edu>, 54yang@cua.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec16.194539.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, wmleolau@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
> 
> 
>> 
>> HK government understand more on the present HK situration than the
>> Chinese government do, and the UK government more or less follow
>> the HK government's suggestions.  This causes the image that HKites
> 			^^^^^^^^
> a slave (colony) give suggestions to his master???
> 

Please don't use this kind of non-sense wordings.
I hope you can tell the relationship between Shanghai City Government and
Central Government.  If you want to use the "slave-master" for
this, then please go to take a course on government administration, no
matter in China or in USA.

>> support UK.  Please, don't confuse this!
>> 
>> Chinese Government said that UK do not cooperate with China for the
>> transition.  Since UK more or less follow HKites' view, that 
> 				     ^^^^^^^
> no, not follow, but dictate, giving colonial orders!!!
> 

Please go to library to read more newspapers!

>> actually is Chinese Governemnt do not cooperate for the adminstation
>> and transition of HK.
> 
> cooperation is not one-side only thing.  When Patten introduced some
> reform measures, had he consulted from the Chinese government? Had he
> made any cooperative intents with the Chinese government? NO!

I agree that he did not consult Chinese government.  But the problem
is that Chinese government did not accept the general opinion of HKites.
As Patten's proposal reflects most HKites' view, HKites of course
support it.

If Chinese government use the view that HKites obey British government
because we are under its administration, I will say HKites should
stand stronger at the present time to get a better political
system; otherwise, I doubt the freedom and human rights that the
Chinese government promise in 1984 will still remain after 1997,
since they will just assume we obey them.

I don't want to see the local development of HK will be restricted
by the central government.

                       
> Can you tell me who direct (lead, guide, decide) the HK government?
> Why this guy assigned by UK came and caused such a dispute?
> As I understand this issue, the issue is still between UK and CHINA,
> about HK.  The British government may be enjoying right now while
> watching HK people are divided.  This is what they hoped and wanted.
> Do they want to cooperate?  Do they willingly return its colony back
> to China and keep it wealthy, healthy?   I doubt.  You'd better
> give some doubt before take a stand with UK at this point.
> 
> 54yang@cua.edu
>

If Patten did not come, democrats can just play a minor role in the
political system before 1997 and may be suppressed after 1997 if
China will be the same as present.  As he started the issue, a lot 
of people got a hope for change.  Most people support Patten's
proposal at that time   .  Then the Mainland side use the trading
benefits to force HKites to oppose Patten's proposal.  The situration
then become divided.  So, you can say Patten created the divided, but
I would like to say it is the Chinese Governemnt directly causes the
local conflict.

As I say before, I think UK wants a more autonomous HK to keep
its business in HK.  In addition, their moral standard tends to
accept local HKites' view for a more democratic system.  This
results in the reform purposal.

I don't think UK just want to destroy HK.  You should go to learn
more on the UK commerial benefits in HK.  At present, these
companies also invest a lot in China.

If you have other points you think UK can get the benefits, please
tell us.  BTW, I don't think just use "doubt" can help you to
manage an issue.

I also want to know what is the points for Chinese Government
to oppose HK's reform?  I just cannot justify what will be
the real benefits for China for them to do all these
unreasonable actions.  If the answer is "they are unreasonable",
then I will just be enforced to want to have a more democratic
system in HK.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

Raymond Kwok

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