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From: swk@seymour.mlb.semi.harris.com (Song W. Koh)
Subject: inset editor problem
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:40:09
Distribution: comp.text.frame
Organization: Harris Corp., Semiconductor Sector, Melbourne, FL


I am trying to use the inset editors as documented in 
	_Integrating_Applications_with_FrameMaker_ 
	Part Number 41-00541-00, September, 1990

I am using the X version 3.1.

My questions are these:

1.  I can't import the file on page 3-5 of the above document.  Has
	anyone out there tried this?

2.  Is there a newer document?

3.  Has anyone tried importing EPSI files and have succeeded? 



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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:13:32 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Aug31.213952.25043@exu.ericsson.se> ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se writes:
<In article 2035@dutiws.tudelft.nl, graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff) writes:
<>In article <l9qp6jINNs7u@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec) writes:
<>>Does anyone know how to make frame behave properly under olvwm?  That is,
<>>so that it doesn't "stick" and follow you around to each virtual screen.
<>
<>You don't say which version of frame you are using, but I guess it's
<>3.0OL, the OpenLook version. They just installed that version on our
<>machines here, and it doesn't seem to stick. Actually, it doesn't seem
<>to care about X much at all. It behaves like one of those SunView
<>application. ("The screen is mine, all mine. Mine, you hear!")
<>
<>Anyway, Frame 3.0X works nicely, and also understands the virtual
<>desktop and other X-programs, so I guess I'll stick to that.
<>
<>Hans
<>--
<
<
<Well on page two of the *Open Issues* document for Frame 3.1A (which is the
<OL release) they state that using Frame on OLVWM can cause "unpredictable
<results". Therefore, we have removed OLVWM from general use here for our
<Framers.

For us that isn't a viable solution.  Until 3.1A and/or olvwm are fixed, we
will not upgrade to 3.1A from 3.1X.

Because of the software that we have as part of our package, the need for
olvwm is great.

I have sent off a letter to comments@frame.com to try and impress them with
that fact.  If you need olvwm for your applications, I suggest sending some
e-mail to comments as well.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: wongda@eecg.toronto.edu (Daniel Y.H. Wong)
Subject: FTP sites for Public domain Frame templates
Keywords: FTP templates
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, University of Toronto
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:50:39 GMT


Hi,
	The 'subject' says it all, is there such a site? BTW, is there a 
FAQ for this group, and where can I get it?

Thanks.

--------------------------
Daniel Wong
Dept. of EE, U. of Toronto
From: jansteen@cwi.nl (Jan van der Steen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: System 7 Mac PS Font --> Screen Font
Keywords: UNIX, Mac PS Font
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:54:43 GMT



I ordered an Adobe Type Library (Macintosh disks) and now want to
use the screen fonts within FrameMaker. I transmitted the Macintosh
screen font file to our UNIX box (Sun Sparc station running
FrameMaker 3.0X) giving:

    -rw-r--r--  1 jansteen   163328 Aug 27 15:16 futura

To create the FrameMaker screen fonts I need to run two filters:

	fmScreen2mfonts
	fmMfont2bfont

However, the "fmScreen2mfonts" filter doesn't seem to like the
(Macintosh system 7) screen fonts. It says:

	"Bad font file."

I also tried the "-t" flag but to no avail.

Does anyone have any experience in this area?
Any help or clue would be highly appreciated.


Jan van der Steen


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mkrause@mitre.org (Mark Krause)
Subject: Grammar Checker for FrameMaker ?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:08:00 GMT

Is there a grammar checker for FrameMaker, either third-party or
publick domain??

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: laufer@math.luc.edu (Konstantin Laufer)
Subject: fgrind?? Alternatives to prog2mif?
Reply-To: laufer@math.luc.edu
Fcc: +outbox
Organization: Loyola University Chicago
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:47:08 GMT

Does anybody have a version of the vgrind/tgrind prettyprinters that
produce MIF code instead of roff or TeX?  If not, how interested would
people be in such a program?  It appears that the functionality that
is missing in prog2mif -- in particular, Pascal-style comments and
italicized strings -- could be achieved by producing a MIF-backend for
tgrind.  

-- 
-Konstantin [laufer@math.luc.edu]
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: franks@berlin.rtp.dg.com (Alan Franks)
Subject: changing an imported graphic
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:53:17 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.
Keywords: import, graphic, copy reference

What I'm trying to do is change an imported graphic from "imported by reference"
to "copied into document."  I've done quite a bit of twiddling with the
graphic (an XWD file) and don't want to redo the import.  Is there a way to
do this quickly and painlessly?

thanks-
-alan
 


Alan P. Franks                   Internet: franks@dg-rtp.dg.com
Integrated System Applications   UUCP:     {world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!franks
Data General Corporation
62 T.W. Alexander Drive
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: fred@mks.com (Fred Kratky)
Subject: Frame on Windows
Keywords: Saving Files
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:05:04 GMT

I have recently started using Frame on Windows.  With each save it
appears that Frame is creating a new file by adding % to the beginning
of the file. eg: if I save "file" 4 times there are four files, the last
one having the name %%%file.

1) this is very annoying
2) I was doing saves while working and seem to have lost some of the 
   changes (I have no idea why)

Do I have Frame incorrectly configured or is this normal behavior???

I would like to resolve this before I begin next months newsletter.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kate@tmp.medtronic.COM (Kate Seastone,MS-10,9295344,)
Subject: Re: How do I change the page size of a document
Reply-To: kate@tmp.medtronic.COM
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:28:38 GMT



In article 14620@aspect.UUCP, ange@aspect.UUCP (Ange Hampton) writes:
>I want to change the page size of a document that has some graphics
>on the footers. I tried Use Formats to copy the format of the origanal
>document to a new doc set up with the correct page size, but the 
>graphical footers get cut off...
>
>Is there an easy way to do this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>ange
>

Another option you may want to try is to:
	- Save the document in MIF format.
	- Open up the MIF text with you favorite ascii editor.
	- Update the DPageSize field to contain the page size you want.
	- Open up the document in FrameMaker again.

Good Luck!

(Ange, attempted email and it got bounced back...)

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: Changing printers - for all documents
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:44:59 GMT


In article <smr.715249557@hitkw14>, smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm) writes:
|> We have recently installed some new printers in our department, and I
|> now don't have to run up and down two flights of stairs to collect my
|> printouts, however, the default printer is always the name of the old
|> printer, not the name of the new one.
|> 
|> We have set the PRINTER and LPDEST environment variables, but
|> framemaker seems to ignore them, is there a simple way to make
|> framemaker realise that you don't want to use the old printer, but
|> instead the new one that is only a few feet away from your desk would
|> be a lot more convenient.

This can be a REAL pain!

1.  Frame uses it's own Printer designation.  In the X11 version, it is in
    your .Xdefaults file (Maker.printerName: xxxx).  Check your documentation
    for specifics (Customizing FrameMaker appendix in the reference manual.)

2.  All templates must be stored with NO printer name.

3.  After a document has been stored WITH a printer name, that printer name
    will be part of it, and your "default" printer will be ignored.  (Unless
    you clear the printername from the document again.)

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Mike Dustan <Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Dictionary
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C2A41F0A012B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 27 Aug 92 23:24:15 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:24:19 GMT

In article <2999@his.UUCP> Jonas Mellin, jonas@his.UUCP writes:
>I am working with documents in English and Swedish. This tends to mess up
>my personal dictionary for framemaker.
>
>Is it possible to attach a personal dictionary to a document in some way?
>

It's awkward to do. You could probably create a document containing all
the words you want in your dictionary, then spell-check it and "allow in
document" all your words. Save the rsulting document and your target
document in MIF, then open the MIF dictionary file with a text editor and
cut-and-paste the dictionary entries into the MIFed target file. Ugly.

Or try the above, but delete all text from your dictionary file and try
saving it as a template. I don't know if dictionary entries remain in a
template, but it might help.

>Or even better, would it be possible to attach the personal dictionary
>to a certain language? This would be a nice feature when a document with
>mixed languages is created.

There may be a way to do this but I'm not sure...

>
>Is it possible to globally specify that another personal dictionary 
>than 'fmdictionary' is going to be used?

Yes. At least in the Mac environment, and I expect on other environments
too, you can specify a Site Dictionary which is searched along with the
main Frame dictionary. I haven't experimented a great deal with this
stuff, though, so I don't know how well it really works.

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence)
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Reply-To: jeremy@snrc.uow.edu.au
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 05:50:33 GMT


In article 318@ftms.UUCP, brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.213952.25043@exu.ericsson.se> ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se writes:
><Well on page two of the *Open Issues* document for Frame 3.1A (which is the
><OL release) they state that using Frame on OLVWM can cause "unpredictable
><results". Therefore, we have removed OLVWM from general use here for our
><Framers.
>
>For us that isn't a viable solution.  Until 3.1A and/or olvwm are fixed, we
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>will not upgrade to 3.1A from 3.1X.

Unfortunately, the incompatibility between olvwm and 3.1A is not "fixable".
The trouble is that 3.1A is a NeWS application, not X11, and so does not 
work correctly with any X window manager. (It _appears_ to work with olwm
because the NeWS window manager embedded in Sun's xnews server has the same
look and feel as olwm.) As I've mentioned elsewhere, Frame 3.1A is built
on TNT (The NeWS Toolkit), which looks like Xview but isn't X at all.

>Because of the software that we have as part of our package, the need for
>olvwm is great.
>
>I have sent off a letter to comments@frame.com to try and impress them with
>that fact.  If you need olvwm for your applications, I suggest sending some
>e-mail to comments as well.

Specifically, you should ask frame for a new version with an Xview interface.
In the meantime, you can probably use Frame 3.1A licenses with Frame 3.1X
(if you have a support contract, you'll probably be able to get 3.1X for
free).

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: lab@tellabs.com (Lester Bautista)
Subject: Re: Grammar Checker for FrameMaker ?
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., IL
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:22:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.150800.12672@linus.mitre.org> mkrause@mitre.org (Mark Krause) writes:
>Is there a grammar checker for FrameMaker, either third-party or
>publick domain??

I attended a Chicago Frame User's Network (FUN) meeting and found
the following 3rd party vendors that have a grammatic checker for
FrameMaker:

    Grammatik                                   Austin Clark
    Reference Software International            tel. (415) 541-0222
    330 Townsend, Suite 123                     fax. (415) 541-0509
    San Francisco, CA 94107                     unit price - $495
		 
    Proof Positive                              Nancy Tomadson
    Avalanche Development Company 		tel. (303) 449-5032
    947 Walnut St.  				fax. (303) 449-3246
    Boulder, CO 80302 				unit price - $395

I had heard that Grammatik is available only for FrameMaker on ms windows,
macs, and sco. Proof Positive might be available on suns.
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Tellabs, Inc.                         tel:       708-512-7820
4951 Indiana Ave., Lisle, IL 60532    fax:       708-512-7099
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: nigelh@csr.UVic.CA (R Nigel Horspool)
Subject: Re: h-bar symbol
Keywords: Planck's constant
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:56:19 GMT

alley@argon.berkeley.edu (Rod Alley) writes:

>Does anyone know how to obtain the symbol for Planck's constant, h-bar
>(h/2*pi)?  Writing h/2*pi looks awkward.  I'm unable to find the symbol,
>and have so far been making do by overlining a ZapfChancery "h".  I 
>want to use it in equations, and in the body of the text.  Can anyone 
>help me with this? 

The closest I can get to the h-bar symbol is to:

1. type an italic h in, say, Times font at 12 pt size followed
   by a space.
2. Move the cursor to between the h and the following space by
   typing a fraction symbol using the key-sequence
	Ctrl-Q Shift-Z
3. Select the fraction symbol, and reduce its size by about 2 pts.
4. Select fraction symbol and shift it to the left and up a bit.
   (On my Macintosh, this requires hitting the option-left arrow
   combination 5 times and the option-up arrow combination 3 times.
   On my Sun, this requires hitting Control-Q followed by 5 hits on
   the left arrow key and 3 on the up arrow key.)
   That will cause the fraction bar to overstrike the upright line
   of the h at about the right spot.

(The extra space in step 1 is important because, otherwise, you are
liable to find subsequent text appearing at the elevated height of
the fraction symbol.)


Nigel Horspool
nigelh@csr.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: thompson@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Todd Thompson)
Subject: eps import
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:19:28 GMT


I run Frame on a Sparc and I recently received a file in EPS format.
I found filters for EPSI, but they wouldn't work on the file I
received.  What's the difference between EPS and EPSI?  Are there
filters for EPS?

I know the file I received is "good" because I was able to import it
into the another (competitor) tool.

Thanks

Todd Thompson
From: cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: inserting blank pages
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:15:49 GMT
Reply-To: cortesi@informix.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <RIM.92Sep1101614@bugs.bme.ri.ccf.org> rim@bme.ri.ccf.org (Robert M.  
Cothren) writes:
> I am using a running footer in a document to include a page number,
> and I generate a table of contents for the document when complete.  I
> would like to be able to include a copy of non-Frame forms and/or
> correspondence as part of the document by skipping the proper number
> of pages and inserting a Xerox of the form and/or correspondence after
> printing.

Create a book with two components, the parts of your present
document before & after the inclusion.

Create a file having the requisite number of blank pages
(caution: remember to go to Format:Document and set it
not to delete blank pages on saving!) to represent the inclusion(s).

Add this blank file to the book between the other two components.

In the dummy file, write in appropriate heading paragraphs on the
pages that represent external documents.

Add to the book a generated table of contents file.

Generate the book, thus establishing page numbers and creating
the TOC complete with headings for all pages.

Print only the TOC and the two "real" component files.
From: mjhanna@sandia.gov (Michael J Hannah)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: One text source for many docs
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:43:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Sep3.154324.24470
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories

In article <1992Sep2.195510.8047@rosevax.rosemount.com> bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins) writes:
+Is there something in Frame that will allow multiple documents
+to contain the same text, the way #include or import by reference
+allow a graphic to be included, and track changes in the source?
+

There is no real "#include" in Frame, but you can get some of
what you want with cross reference

+The problem comes from a fax message distribution problem.  I have
+a committee with 15 members, none of whom are on the 'net :-(
+So I made up 15 Fax Lead Sheets, one for each member.  The sheet
+contains a Subject line and about 5 inches of text space.  I've
+got them in a book, so one print command prints them all.  I'd
+like to be able to fill in the subject line and text space from
+a single file, so that they all get the same message.  If there's
+more pages than the lead sheet, those are only printed once.  I
+don't want to cut and paste to 15 lead sheets for each new message.
+
+We are running Version 3.1X, Jan 92.  Any ideas?
+
+bill@texan.rosemount.com  Bill Hawkins  612 895-2085 (VoiceMail)

As your Fax Lead Sheets are already in a book, put your other
document as another single file in the book.  Now put one other file
in the book that is not included in the list of files to print.
Place the text that is to be common on the Fax sheets in that file
as separate, specially named paragraphs.  In each Fax sheet cross
reference to the "common" document with format set to the paragraph
text.  Now you just update the text in the "common" document, then
update cross references to "all documents".  While this has the
problems inherent with cross reference (font style of source is lost, etc.)
this will provide most of the capabilities you will need.

-- 
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Scientific Computing User Support Department 1956 | (505)845-8923
Sandia National Laboratories                      | FAX (505)844-2067
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: vening@skyhawk.chdasic.sps.mot.com (Michele Vening)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Summary: remote Frame service
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Keywords: frame license variables
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector, Arizona
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:07:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.091212.29686@rs.com> horen@rs.com writes:
>As I wrote Ruben (I guess I should have also posted it to the net), my
>experience with running both Sun and SGI FrameMaker license-servers is
>that "Yes", you can access the SGI license from the Sun by:
>   1.	Select "Info" from the main FrameMaker menu.

  <steps deleted>

>That's it. It won't "automatically" recognize and count the license on
>the SGI server -- you must access it manually -- but wotthehell, right?

Our license server runs on a Sun node (nova).  Users on both our Sun and
Apollo token ring networks can start a process from this server (and yes,
the foreign service is "counted").  The following automates the process 
of setting the license server host in Frame (2.1 or 3.0):
	setenv	FRAMEUSERSD_HOST nova

Add this to your .login or .profile.  Replace nova with the name of your
machine.  Simply start Frame and go about your normal business.  No need
to manually get a license.

There are other customizations you can do in a local .fminit2.0 directory
in the env.sh or env.csh file.  See the FrameMaker documentation or send
mail.

--Michele
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From: mturok@cvbnet.prime.com (Michael Turok 4-1235 x2628)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Frame2Interleaf converter
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:18:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision

Hi:

Does anybody know of a converter/filter that converts FrameMaker files to
Interleaf format (preferrably public domain) ?

Basically we'd like to have an Interleaf library of graphic symbols that
represent elements of distributed development environment (terminals,
workstations, servers, disk drives, etc...), and it looks like we can
get a copy of FrameMaker library which has these things in it.

Btw, if you don't have/know of a converter, but _do_ have an Interleaf
library we're looking for and _can_ share it with us - we'd appreciate
it!

Thank you.

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Michael Turok

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: fkuhl@snare.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Subject: keeping tables together
Reply-To: fkuhl@snare.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:01:32 GMT

We've noticed that, if a table is long enough to go to a second page,
and all the rows have 'keep with next' set, Frame will put one row to a
page on successive pages until it is able to put the remaining rows on
one page.

Has anybody else noticed this?  This doesn't seem helpful.

-- 
Frederick Kuhl			fkuhl@mitre.org
Center for Advanced Aviation System Development
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Virginia