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From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 15:40:16 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <EKTIMFE@taronga.com>  arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
> I was at a local Toy's R Us yesterday and counted 6 copies of the
> old Be Our Guest tape, all priced at $9.99.  That plus tax and
> postage would come out to considerably less than $20 a copy for me.

I really don't think the old tape is going to become a collector's item, 
certainly not for a LONG time... there are just too many copies out there.
But what do I know, eh?

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: pausch@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Randy Pausch)
Subject: Re: 'Aladdin' museum showing
Reply-To: pausch@Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:37:35 GMT

Regarding "voice only" actors getting Oscar consideration, there was some
discussion of this as a possibility for the actor who did the voice of the
crow Jeremy in the "Secret of NIHM." (I think it was Dom Deloise, but I'm
not sure)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:11:16 EDT
From: <WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: I am Ariel

I'm sure being 19 and having 'The Little Mermiad' be your favorite movie of all
 time is nothing new....er, um well maybe it is.  Although I haven't seen B&TB
(as not to O-fend, all the merfolk) I am a little upset that the chick is kinda
 surpassing ariel...come on all guys like red hair what is this? did I dye my h
air for nothing????    ANyway, I was wondering if anyone knows of anywhere to g
et adult size mermaid clothes???? I am just sick of only little kids wearing my
 idol.
Anyone, ANyone?

TAN: My theme christmas tree this year is "UNDER THE SEA" I just can't wait to
start it.....any ideas on what I can do?????

Well Folks, Eric is a'callin'.....AHHHHH AHHHH AHHHHH

                                           E-mail me, I love mail and it
                                             can't get wet this way...

                                                           TARA
From: jromine@yoyodyne.ics.uci.edu (John Romine)
Subject: Re: Disney Maps
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Reply-To: jromine@ics.uci.edu (John Romine)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:56:43 GMT

WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu (Reid Woolery) writes:
>Does anyone know if Disney still produces large maps of Disneyland and

They sure do.  I just got a Disneyland map about 4 weeks ago for $1.50.
They are sold at the newsstand near the entrance to the park.
--
John Romine
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Fantasmic/crowd control:  Improved?
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:43:44 PDT

In article <704@mtinews.mti.com>, adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy) writes:
> 
> I'm curious to see if Fantasmic! is a summer-only thing, or if they'll run
> it on winter weekend nights.  If they do, that would probably be a much better
> time to go.

According to a security person I was talking to, it will indeed be run
on winter weekends.

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: emru@CAM.ORG
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Cartoons
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:36:51 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <2377@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> derrick@cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson) writes:
>
>Please excuse my posting to this group, but it is the safest, and
>most appropriate group I could think of for such an inquiry.
>
>Is there a group to discuss this type of animation? Can you suggest
>any good reading on the Tex Avery and MGM cartoons? (I am considering
>ordering the $40 Tom and Jerry book). Are there any other studio's who
>put out similar stuff? Any other recomendations (tapes or books)?

Sure.  Try rec.arts.animation.

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From: kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester)
Subject: Re: Crowds at Disneyland - suggestion
Organization: Mat. Sci. & Eng., NCSU
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:10:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.224226.2587@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu
(j. tinkle ) writes:
>One suggestion I've heard for Disneyland (Anaheim, Ca.) and Magic 
>Mountain (Valencia, Ca.) is if you're not a sports fan, 
>go on Superbowl Sunday.  Apparently, some people do this every
>year and are always pleased with the lack of crowds and lines.
>

Another great day to go to Disneyland, if you don't celebrate it, is Christmas
day.  In the middle of one of the busiest seasons, the place is fairly empty.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Fantasmic/crowd control:  Improved?
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:37:46 PDT

In article <1992Aug25.003848.12294@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman) writes:
>
> I've seen Fantasmic twice:  once when it opened, and once about 1 1/2 months
> ago.  Has anyone that has been there more recently noticed any improvement
> in the crowd control?  

It has improved since opening day, but it is still pretty bad.

> The crowds around Rivers of America are horrible.  Trying to get out of the
> area after the show is quite a trick; you feel like you're gasping for air
> by the time you 'escape' the area.  Some really bad planning went into how to 
> handle the throngs of people that attend every show.  
> 
> There are only a few good vantage points from which to watch the show, and if 
> you're late getting to one, tough.  I've seen people line up as early as 2 
> hours before the show; that's really ridiculous, IMHO.  What they need are 
> bleachers, but there just isn't any room for them.

Here you hit the real reason.  The area was *not* designed to handle
these kinds of crowds.  Reworking the entire area was pretty much out
of the question, I suspect.

> Probably the only nice thing about the show is that other parts of the park
> are less crowded!

I've stopped counting how many times I've seen Fantasmic!, so obviously
I disagree.  And so do most other people, apparantly.  I've heard an
awful lot of first-timers say that Fantasmic! alone was worth the price
of admission to the park.  One Australian group to whom I was talking
one night even said that they were counting it as the high point of their
trip (which included most of the southwestern US).

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: bingle@cs.purdue.EDU (Richard Bingle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Old vs New "Be Our Guest" tape?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:18:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

In article <1992Aug23.210655.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> adf1@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
 Please clarify something for me. I read a post recently about an old vs new "Be
 Our Guest" song tape. Something about Pinocchio on the old one and Winnie the
 Pooh on the new. I hope I have this right. The posting is no longer in the
 newsgroup for me to read again and I wanted to find out about the tape I have.
 Mine has Pinocchio pictured on the back. Is it the new one or old version? And
 what was the lawsuit all about? ...

I believe the ones with the song from Pinocchio are the "old" ones.
It looks as if they just removed the one song from the tape (and
didn't replace it with anything.  Anyway, I have access to about 4
copies of the "old" one and am willing to pick them up and mail them
to interested parties.  Is anyone interested in making it worth my
time? How does $20 sound?

Richard Bingle                                      bingle@cs.purdue.edu
Computer Science Department                                purdue!bingle
Purdue University                                         (317) 494-0893
West Lafayette, IN 47907


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (WBRS-FM 100.1, Waltham MA USA)
Subject: new plans at Disney
Reply-To: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:48:16 GMT

When my boyfriend and I were in Disney almost 3 years ago, a worker told us 
that there were plans for a new theme park in 1998-99.  But, he would not
tell us anything else.  Does anyone have information on an upcoming addition, 
or does anyone have some ideas for what a new park could be?
	
					-KT

P.S. When is there Coney Island like area opening, that sounds like tons of fun.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: disney@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.p.schwendel)
Subject:  Warning: FAQ Ahead!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:09:12 GMT
Keywords: Lost my movie list, someone please e-mail

As luck would have it, I can't find my list of Disney movies,
particularly the ones available on video. Would some kind
person PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSE send me a copy? THANKS!

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 04:47:32 GMT
Organization:  The following is all GERG'S fault!  

In article <14470@auspex-gw.auspex.com> casey@Auspex.COM (Casey Cox) writes:
>In article <03lnnt_.tyger@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>>
>>Child of Glass:
>>
>>She begs him for just one dance, when a classical piece she
>>recognizes is being played. He reluctantly complies.
>
>I could have sworn this was made into a TV movie. The dance scene was memorable
>because there was another real girl that was in love with Alexander, who was
>unfortunately rather plain compared with the ghost girl. When she sees
>Alex dancing with the ghost, she runs off crying .....

Yes, it was...does anyone reading recall whether it was a Disney Presents 
movie? I remember it as a Saturday afternoon special. Either way, I think it 
would be really cool, IMHO, as an animated feature.

>Casey Cox

   Tyger

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Subject: Re: Crowds at Disneyland - suggestion
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:42:25 PDT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

One suggestion I've heard for Disneyland (Anaheim, Ca.) and Magic 
Mountain (Valencia, Ca.) is if you're not a sports fan, 
go on Superbowl Sunday.  Apparently, some people do this every
year and are always pleased with the lack of crowds and lines.

Jennifer
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From: guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Crowds at Disneyland - suggestion
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:09:06 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.224226.2587@nic.csu.net>, jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
> One suggestion I've heard for Disneyland (Anaheim, Ca.) and Magic 
> Mountain (Valencia, Ca.) is if you're not a sports fan, 
> go on Superbowl Sunday.  Apparently, some people do this every
> year and are always pleased with the lack of crowds and lines.
> 
> Jennifer
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> 
Not so.  I go to Disneyland lots mostly on Sundays and Superbowl
Sunday is worse than the other Sundays at that time of the year
since so many moms and kids are trying to get away from the 
Couch Potato Epidemic.

Karen
Xref: sparky rec.arts.disney:4344 rec.roller-coaster:1738
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Give it a rest (Was re: Hurricane Plans)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:46:59 GMT

In article <1685731EE.ROCKY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> ROCKY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rocky Essex - University of Florida) writes:
>In article <xzant!k.tyger@netcom.com>
>tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
> 
>>In article <Rich_Koster.0mh7@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>>>
>>>Do you know what, if any, hurricane preparation plans there are at Walt
>>>Disney World? I ask that now in light of the current projected path of
>>>Hurricane Andrew as of now (9:30 am Saturday morning, 8/22) would take it
>>>right through Cape Canaveral and on through Orlando.

>Come on folks give it a rest!
>I can't believe all the fuss on such an issue as Hurricane Andrew and the
>comment on ONE DISNEY EMPLOYEE saying those things pass over here all the
>time.  Well first of all, THEY DON'T!!!  I'm sure the National Hurricane
>Center would give ample warning to the Orlando area, including Disney
>World like they do the rest of the world.  Secondly to take the words of
>one employee and make an issue of it would be like one Coke salesperson
>at a football game saying oh I hear Coke is going to discontinue Coke
>Classic again!!!!!  Its absurd!!!!  I've been to Disney many times and
>on many different occasions and they are always prepared beyond the
>norm...I'm quite sure they have a hurricane, severe storm plan.

They do, this summer while I was at The Great Movie Ride I had the
opportunity to sign up on the Hurricane crew...Basically that is a
bunch of unmarried cast members who get to stay in the park to secure
things in case of a hurricane,,There are 3 evacuation plans, etc... It
is very thorough.   Sometimes they have to stay all night, very long
shifts.. But we didn't use it this summer at all, as far as I know.

So don't worry about it, it is under control.

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@ucs.indiana.edu
From: ROCKY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rocky Essex - University of Florida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Xmas in WDW
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:18:44 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, NERDC

In article <#7#n!vd.tyger@netcom.com>
tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
 
>In article <1992Aug20.143126.24677@watson.ibm.com> ling@watson.ibm.com (David Ling) writes:
>>Thanksgiving week and Christmas week are EXTREMELY CROWDED in WDW. Expect
>>long lines and heavy delays.
>
>Okay...after one post saying crowds are minimal, and three saying it's a zoo,
>what's the real story? Is the person that said it was uncrowded sure he was
>in the same park the rest of you were in? ;)
>
>    Tyger
>--
>      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
>      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make
>                            But you can make decisions too
>      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
>
>
Well I've been to the Disney complex on two different Christmas seasons and I
can truthfully say it is a zoo, but a nice zoo.  The weather being relatively
moderate makes the crowd much more civil (I'm sure the season doesn't hurt)
and its just a great time.  The Christmas parade goes through 12/31 and WDW
is open late (like 2 am) that night.  I went one time with just my son (7)
and the other time with both my children and my wife.  It was great.  We
were in no hurry to rush to any rides and thus our expectations were not
dashed by long lines.    Please go ahead and have a great time.  The weather
is wonderful at worst 50's at usually 60-70's.  The crowds are friendly, at
least they were both times we went, and the decorations are alone worth
going to see.  BTW, if you can stay at a hotel on the property --- this is
the way to go.  Good Luck, if you need anything else you can EMAIL me or
post.
Rocky
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: kjaskiew@zeus.calpoly.edu (Keith Ross Jaskiewicz)
Subject: Re: Best Age For Kids
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:33:13 GMT

From the keyboard of MWORKMAN@vm.cc.purdue.edu:
>We have a 7 month old and can't wait to take her to Disney World.  Does anyone
>have suggestions about what age she will get the most out of it?

My vote is at age 34.

____________________________
Keith
kjaskiew@polyslo.calpoly.edu
kjaskiew@demeter.calpoly.edu


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: dlb@mitre.org (David L. Baldauf)
Subject: Re: Crowds at Disney - suggestion
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:22:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.220822.19078@bert.eecs.uic.edu> 
artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes:
>         Since there are so many postings here asking "how are the crowds
> at XXX time of year," perhaps someone in the know could get us a plot
> of average crowd size by month/week/day, whatever, and either post it,
> include it in the FAQ, or (for day data) make it available for FTP.

I'd also like to see a listing of when attractions are down for 
maintenance.  I once went to WDW and found that some things at the Magic 
Kingdom and at EPCOT were not operating.  I'd like to know this before I 
make my plans, or at least before I buy my ticket.

Dave Baldauf
From: v053qhdh@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Aaron J Snyderman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Time to go to WDW
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was once at WDW for the week before Christmas.  It was a perfect time to go. 
The park had late hours,  the lines were incredibly short, and all of the
decorations were up.  My family stayed through till Dec. 28th, and being there
for the Christmas parade was quite an experience, but don't plan to get to go
on many rides at that time, since the park was so jammed with people that
you could barely walk, talk or breathe.


Aaron
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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: Upcoming features
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:15:36 GMT

jrjj@moscom.UUCP (Jad Jordan) writes:


>Seriously, with the popularity of the FairyTale stories of Little Mermaid and
>Beauty and the Beast, I think you will see more classic stories in the
>future. Aladdin, Sinbad and even Pocahontas appear in that vein of stories.
>What other classic Fairy Tales are out there that Disney could put a fresh
>twist on? Rapunzel. And ... I don't think any are coming to me. I'm getting
>lots of Nursery Rhymes, but not too many Fairy Tales.  I'm excited by Swan
>Lake and Pocahontas. Those should be interesting. Any other ideas?


You know, I always thought that Disney could do a great job adapting opera and
Shakespeare to animation..."The Magic Flute" and "A Midsummer Night's Dream"
or both GREAT stories with PLENTY of opportunities for kick-butt animattion.
It'd also provide Disney with their best bet at flicks that'd work for adults
AND kids, while conceivably staying within a "G" rating.
From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Best Age For Kids
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:36:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

In article <963@cybaswan.UUCP> csandy@cybaswan.UUCP (ap.parkman) writes:
>In article <1684B13428.MWORKMAN@vm.cc.purdue.edu>, MWORKMAN@vm.cc.purdue.edu
writes:

>3 yrs - 5yrs:    good time for younger children, although now you pay for
>                 them to get in and possibly for flight if travelling.
>5&6:             depending on height they might be frustrated at not being
>                 allowed on some rides.
>7:               probably OK height wise.

Ages 5 & 6 shouldn't have any problems with height restrictions. We took 
our son to Disneyland when he was 2.9 years old. He rode every ride in the
park.
If I recall correctly, he was 40 inches tall and just met the height
restrictions. 40
inches was the most severe height restriction in the park.

Imagine that ... 2.9 years old so he got in for free. Plus, since he was a tall
boy
he experienced every attraction. BTW, he loved it all and can't wait to go
back.
Disneyland/World  is frequently the subject of our bedtime stories.
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Subject: Re: Disney Maps
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:37:59 PDT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

Yes.  But I didn't take notice of its dimensions.  It may be possible for me
to find out, I'll post if I do.

Jennifer
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