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From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,ba.politics,ca.politics
Subject: The Nixon Tapes - A New Chapter
Summary: tricky dick was a real political slime
Keywords: covert, break-in, hunt, cbc, foia, libertarian, bush, reagan, drugs
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:18:16 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Memes-R-Us
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I was listening to CBC - Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - the other
day, their excellent Sunday morning news and events program, called, not
too surprisingly, _Sunday Morning_, and heard an interesting snippet.

Seems that, through a FOIA request, someone has discovered another one
of Tricky Dick's underhanded plots. This one wasn't actually implemented,
but it _was_ discussed at considerable length ... and recorded.

When Wallace was shot by his would-be assassin, apparently in the hours
just after the fact, the possibility was raised that someone - specifically,
the covert operator E. Howard Hunt - should slip into this person's house -
which was filled with politically extremist materials - and replace it all
with McGovern materials.

Why this was not carried out, I am unsure. But with this kind of thinking
in the White House, it seems to raise the probability of other misbehavior
and suggests that every legal decision that occurred during the Nixon years
should have been re-examined for covert influences.

Even moreso, under the Reagan and Bush years, IMHO. For instance, the SFPD
raided the Libertarian HQ and charged everyone there with selling drugs, in
the early 1980s. Was this a setup ? With this kind of evidence, one has to
inquire ...

The person whom acquired this information, and whom was interviewed, was a
gentleman by the name of Seymour Hirsch.


-- richard

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From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #38 of 80
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:38:30 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l):
>Just within the past three weeks Jimmy Carter has suddenly contracted
>two forms of terminal cancer--one is acute leukemia, or cancer of the
>blood, whose symptoms include weakness and fatigue.  Lately Carter has
>been displaying these symptoms and they have been noticed by close
>observers.  The other cancerous infection now plaguing Jimmy Carter is
>a tumor on the left side of his head.  In due course this tumor is
>expected to cause pronounced disabling effects.

Well, I guess that just about wraps it up for Dr. Beter.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
  "you make me want to break the laws of time and space / you make me
   want to eat pork / you make me want to staple bagles to my face /
   and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: CIA Now Plotting a Coup D'etat Against the Government of Cuba
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:31:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
Distribtion: world

Marc E. Talbot (met48546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Don't suppose you have any documentation for these raids?  
: [... into Cuban territory...]
: I find it hard to believe that various news organizations wouldn't
: be killing each other to break the story.
: 

  Fact is stranger than fiction. Often news organisations will refuse
  to break stories if it wasn't their organisation but a third party
  agency which uncovered the information. A close friend of mine works
  for such an agency and had exactly this experience with the 
  Matrix-Churchill affair in the UK. His agency provided the press with
  in depth details a week before they decided to break the story and in
  the end didn't use any of the agency's information despite the fact it
  was fully corroborated.

		Aaron Turner		aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13216 talk.politics.misc:64437
From: mt@media.mit.edu (Michael Travers)
Subject: Re: Expose famous historical figures who hated Jews
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:33:00 GMT

The late Joseph Campbell, beloved of New Age types and PBS watchers
("The Power of Myth"), was also a well-known antisemite, according to
a NY Review of Books article a few years back.
--

Michael Travers / MIT Media Lab / mt@media-lab.media.mit.edu
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Re: Scientists & inventions
Reply-To: sboswell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 06:57:00 GMT

In article <42523@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> sboswell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu in
"alt.conspiracy" writes:
|What are some famous scientists/inventions that disappeared without a
|trace and without an explanation?  I seem to remember hearing about
|someone who invented a simple way to increase gas efficiency
|dramatically, and he was going to meet some people about it when he
|disappeared.  (Real helpful info, I know.)

|Anyways, can someone provide me with a few names & inventions?

|Please mail answers, I'll mail out summaries if there's interest.


Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13219 alt.revisionism:858
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Expose famous historical figures who hated Jews
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:17:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jspence@cmptrc.lonestar.org (John Spence) writes:
: 
: I have noticed so poor usages of the term "anti-Semitic" in this
: thread. I know it sounds so nit-picky, but terms are terms. The phrase
: Anti-Semitic is a relativly new term, late 1940's I believe, that refers
: to a RACE of people, such as the Jews and the Arabs. With this in mind,
: the Pope's meeting with Arafat can not be Anti-Semitic. Anti-Judaic
: refers to the religion of many Semitic people. 

Actually, the term "anti-semite" was coined in the 19th century
by a French (German?) anti-semite, whose name I have forgotten.
He was using the phrase to legimate his own anti-semitism.  While
"semitic" refers to a language group (not a race) which includes
Arabs as well as Jews, "anti-semite" has never meant anything other
than "Jew-hater".

Bill     :
From: eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #01 of 80
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:14:19 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

rick@howtek.UUCP (Rick Roy @ Howtek, Inc.) writes:
>In article <3870@news.cerf.net> (alt.conspiracy), eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Andrew Lynch) writes:
>] Posted by Jon Volkoff, mail address eidetics@cerf.net
>] 
>] "AUDIO LETTER(R)" is a registered trademark of Audio Books,
>] Inc., a Texas corporation, which originally produced this tape
>] recording.  Reproduced under open license granted by Audio
>] Books, Inc.
>] 
>] -----------------------------------------------------------------
>] 
>] This is the Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER(R), Box 16428, Ft. Worth,
>] Texas  76133
>] 
>]    Hello my friends, this is Dr. Beter speaking.  Today is June
>] 21, 1975, and this is my monthly AUDIO LETTER(R) No. 1.
>                           ^^^^^^^
>
>As this is an 80 (!!!!!) part letter, I have to ask: Is it monthly
>because that's how long it takes him to say this much?

Well, actually it's 80 different letters, one released every month or so.
Much of the time was spent gathering and cross-checking the information from
his sources, which was actually a full-time job.

Jon Volkoff
eidetics@cerf.net
From: v140pxgt@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Bohemian Party???
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec14.084641.16462@u.washington.edu>, pirone@milton.u.washington.edu (cocteau) writes...
> 
>howdy,
> 
>   has anyone heard of the 'Bohemian' party or gathering
>   that is supposed to take place once a year or once every
>   four years near or on the Russian river in california.
>   Supposedly this gathering includes top officials of 
>   U.S. government, banking, industry, AND the media.
>   This is the second time i've posted looking for info
>   on this topic, if you know anything or have just 'heard
>   of it' like i have, please email me or post.
> 
>  thanks......   
> 
>  dome@santafe.santafe.edu

What you're talking about is Bohemian Grove, a retreat run every summer for six
weeks by the Bohemian Club of San Francisco. The club, founded in the middle of
the last century by Jack London and others, has drawn over time a (male) 
membership that includes a lot of powerful and influential men, both in 
California and out (According to Philip Weiss, who infiltrated it for Spy and
whose subsequent article I'm cribbing all this from, membership in the club is
absolutely indispensable if you want to be successful in California business).
In addition these members (who include Walter Cronkite, William F. Buckley, and
Ronald Reagan) often invite equally powerful guests to spend time with them (
such as Henry Kissinger and (one summer) the then-President of France, whose 
visit (during Weiss's time there) was kept secret).
Naturally, such a gathering is bound to generate the usual conspiracy theories,
but, as Weiss's article makes clear, this is overrated. A friend of my father's
who was a guest one summer described as "the biggest frat party in the world". I
might also say the richest-according to Weiss, they spent $75,000 to produce a 
"Follies" type play, and that was only performed once. Although politics and 
business are conducted there (in violation of the club's widely ignored "Weaving
spiders come not here" rule)-Reagan, recently retired as President, told Weiss
himself that it was at the 1967 Grove where he agreed with Nixon not to 
challenge him for the next year's Republican presidential nomination, and the
respective chairmen of both parties' Congressional campaign committees have been
guests every summer-rest assured that these guys aren't doing anything more 
sinister than pissing on trees (a *big* activity, apparently). They're too busy
getting drunk to much more than male-bond (which, of course, is enough for some
people, who've founded the Bohemian Grove Action Network to protest and subvert
it (by, for example, sneaking Weiss and other journalists in).

							Dan Case
						V140PXGT@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13215 talk.politics.misc:64436
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Paul
From: drbombay@netlink.cts.com (Walter Ladwig)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:48:12 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers) writes:

> 
> 
> 	Does anyone here really believe Paul is dead?
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PRESTON LANDERS                                cq019@cleveland.freenet.edu
> "The man in the crowd with the multicolored mirrors on his hobnail boots."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

No, Paul is not dead.  He is living in the Vatican with Elvis.

--                    
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UUCP:   ...!ryptyde!netlink!drbombay
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Bar codes and Antichrist?
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:59:39 GMT

00vmszopa@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:


>I've heard it mentioned several times now: some people believe
>that supermarket bar codes contain or are involved with the 
>"Number of the Beast."

This at least goes back to Hal Lindsay books.  You'd think
they'd update the story to include a 486 in everyone's 
forehead - "our little personal computer", yuck yuck.
-- 
{{{{ bill eldridge           310-206-3960                x                }}}}
{{{{ bill@cognet.ucla.edu    310-206-3987 fax           xxx              }}}}
{{{{ ~more, ~better, ~faster [80's motto]                x              }}}}
{{{{ ~hot, ~toxic, and ~shallow [90's motto]                              }}}}
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: NAFTA
From: jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 01:06:05 PST
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C.
Summary: corporate agenda

IN my opinion, NAFTA is just more of the same, the steady global 
encroachment of big capital and the idea that it will be "good" for 
anyone but the power elite is an insult to common sense.. As Charles 
Bukowski has said "everyone knows the bacon is burning"

           jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (John Cross)
     The Old Frog's Almanac  (Home of The Almanac UNIX Users Group)    
(604) 245-3205 (v32)    <Public Access UseNet>    (604) 245-4366 (2400x4)
        Vancouver Island, British Columbia    Waffle XENIX 1.64  
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:13287 talk.politics.misc:64821
From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #21 of 80
In-reply-to: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU's message of 10 Dec 92 22:13:20 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:15:17

In article <jyc.724025600@Leland> jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:

>      Please tell me his first name is Peter.   Please please please please
>   please please ... 

Ok.

I mean, imagine how paranoid you'd be if every time you introduced
yourself to someone they laughed at you?

Did ya hear that Dr. Beter entered a fishing contest before he died?
He lost.  But he did win the runner up trophy for the Master Baiter.

Sorry.  Couldn't help myself.
--
Peter Young
young@erim.org
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #40 of 80
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:58:06 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l):
>For more than two years now the United States and Russia have been
>embroiled in secret hostilities in preparation for Nuclear War One.
>[...] it expanded into wholesale nuclear sabotage of the United
>States [...]  For some time now the Russians have been detonating
>micronukes in a steady drum beat of explosions all over America.

Heh.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
  "you make me want to break the laws of time and space / you make me
   want to eat pork / you make me want to staple bagles to my face /
   and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.unhinged
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #46 of 80
Followup-To: alt.unhinged
Keywords: Robots, Clones, Stollman
Organization: Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:29:41 -0500

In article <2B30B6A3.8326@tct.com>, chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
> Wow.  This bizarreness exceeds anything I'd ever expected.
>
> According to eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l):
>>Last month I revealed that an Intelligence war of "doubles" had
>>erupted in the United States.  President Carter, Vice-President
>>Mondale, and their wives had fallen victim to this war of "doubles"
>>as their Easter breaks away from Washington were ending.  Now I'm
>>sorry to report that Amy Carter, Billy Carter, Lillian Carter, and
>>Hugh Carter all died soon after Jimmy and Rosalyn did.  All of them,
>>including Amy, have been replaced by "doubles"; but instead of the
>>Bolshevik "doubles" who had been waiting in the wings, those we are
>>seeing are Russian organic robotoids.  The voice of the Jimmy Carter

Well, I guess Dr. Beter had to explain what happened to the cancer-afflicted
Jimmy Carter he was babbling about in #38/80.

Hey, I wonder if Gary Stollman's clone problems started with all this!

>>[rest deleted]

Followups to alt.unhinged...

--
James Harvey
harvey@iupui.edu
From: bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Natural Rights
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:12:12 GMT
Reply-To: bud@mtek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.

f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

>In article <4744@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>, snarfy@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:

[ complete line-for-line repetition of lengthy ravings deleted ]

>	You make some excellent points on which we should all reflect
>at length!

We should *not* have to suffer your bad manners which require us to read
them "at length" *AGAIN* in order to get down to your rather gratuitous
(IMHO) two-line endorsement.
-- 
________________________________________________________________
bud@mtek.com ... uunet!m2xenix!mtek!bud ... bud@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
MTEK International, Inc.             Throughput Technology Corp.
Throughput!
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: UFOs & Jimmy Carter
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:38:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.022107.105@bilver.uucp>, dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes in part:
|> an UNidentified craft. 
|> 
|> I witnessed (along with about 50 others) the infamous Gulf Breeze
|> "UFO" in Florida...all I ever saw was a very brilliant light that
|> initially appeared as bright white. It appeared to me to be about
|> 50 ft in diameter, however it was across from Pensacola bay and
|> appeared to me to be about 2 miles out across the bay, but distances
|> are hard to estimate. 
...as are sizes, particularly of lights on a uniform dark background.
It is well know that it is very difficult to determine the distance,
size (since your eye can't really tell the distance) and even the
direction of a bright spot on a dark background.

|> It may have been closer or further. One thing
|> I quite certain is that it wasn't a flare..it didn't exhibit *any*
|> flare like characteristics but it did exhibit a complete change
|> of color, from bright white to very deep red. The change was not
|> sudden, but gradual, as if a rheostat was turned. The light source
|> was pretty stable, with no signs of flickering, flashing, sparks
|> of any kind. 
What you describe is EXACTLY like the fireworks I used to make when
I was a kid.
  -you use different poweders to make the flare change colors.
  -if you mix the powders at the transition, rather than have a
   sudden change, you get a gradual change in color.
  -If you do a good job you get bright, continuous light with no
   big flickers.
  -when suspended from a free baloon (made from thin transparent
   plastic, lifted by the heat of the flare) there is NO WIND
   relative to the payload (because the balloon moves with the 
   breeze), so flames burn VERY steadily.
  -sparks, small flickers, etc. sould not be visible at a couple of
   miles anyway.
I've made these things.  It ain't that hard.  The results are definitely
cool.  The results are not especially mysterious.

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: Senior, Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:44:49 -0500 
From: Joshua Galiotto <jg4j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Dr. Beter: Prophet of Doom!!!


Well okay, I admit the the title's a bit melodramatic- but hey, I AM
talking about Dr. Beter aint I?!

Here's are questions: is Dr. Beter (of Audio Letter fame, of course)
still alive? And if so, what's the guy got to say for himself now that
history has turned out so drastically different than he and his
"oh-so-knowledgable" sources had forecasted? I hope he's still alive.
I'd be interested in hearing his half-assed explanation of things (not
to mention rubbing a bit of history in his face.)


Until next post, God willing, this is Dr. Galiotto..

...waitaminnit! I'm not a doctor!...


Beware the particle beam cannons of the moon! And swim not in America's
ponds, lest ye klunk your head off a Soviet nuclear warhead! 









Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #50 of 80 -disappointing
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:55:40 GMT

Well in my opinion, the robotoids screwed it all up.  Until
now there was nothing that could be 100% dismissed as preposterous
(just 99.9999%), which meant it was great conspiracy fare, but
Beter apparently got cocky and crossed the thin line between
unbelievable and ridiculous.

Oh well, back to my Illuminati books.
-- 
{{{{ bill eldridge           310-206-3960                x                }}}}
{{{{ bill@cognet.ucla.edu    310-206-3987 fax           xxx              }}}}
{{{{ ~more, ~better, ~faster [80's motto]                x              }}}}
{{{{ ~hot, ~toxic, and ~shallow [90's motto]                              }}}}
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: CIA Now Plotting a Coup D'etat Against the Government of Cuba
Keywords: CIA now plotting a coup d'etat against the Government of Cuba
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:17:16 GMT

no way?! the cia has something against cuba? 

NO FUCKIN WAY MAN!

the cia has been plotting to overthrow castro longer than many on this
net have been alive. post some new news, next time.
From: orwell@erich.triumf.ca (BALDEN, RON)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: CIA Now Plotting a Coup D'etat Against the Government of Cuba
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:44 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Just to followup on Marc E. Talbot's original specific request:

Chapter 5, "Fourth Estate or Fourth Branch of Government?" in
"Unreliable Sources" by Martin Lee and Norman Solomon -- I dug out
my copy which I didn't have at hand when making my other posts --
(1990, Lyle Stuart/Carol Publ. Group - 
Library of Congress Catalogue PN4888.025.L44 ) has a discussion
of CIA influence in the media -- see also the footnotes to this chapter.
As I mentioned, IMO this is the best single reference to 
start one on a critical study of the U.S. mass media.

Lee and Solomon make reference to an article by Peter Biskind,
"How the CIA Controls the Media" in the journal "Seven Days",
January 1978.

There is also a book (which I haven't yet seen) 
"Dirty Work: the CIA in Western Europe" edited by Phillip Agee and
Louis Wolf, 1978 (JK468 I6 D57) which presumably throws some
light on Marc's original request.  Books on the CIA are catalogued
(mostly) under JK468, so if one has access to a good university
library, the thing to do is go to that section and start browsing.

Ron Balden