From: jamie@sally.acns.nwu.edu (James R. Groves)
Subject: Re: USENET memory prices are SKY HIGH !!!!!!
Organization: Black Bag Midwest
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:41:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.163822.21555@tc.cornell.edu> orb@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Randolph Turner) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.131545.11776@panix.com> paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
>>In <1992Aug29.234958.3546@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>>
>> ................but keep those price updates coming in anyway! I'm sure I'm
>>not the only one that appreciates it when someone takes the trouble to point
>>out that there is a place to purchase an item new for less.
>>
>> This is valuable information-- the value being money saved. I use the internet
>>for _information_.
>>
>> My apologies to any sellers who resent having someone point out that what 
>>they are selling is overpriced. Please re-evaluate and repost.
>>
>
> [Soapbox Mode On]
>
>  Ok folks....Are we ready to change the name of this group to
>Alt.Computer.Shopper.Reference ?  For all of of the whining I have seen here
>about commercial postings, everytime someone posts an *asking* price within
>$20 of the Shopper prices, some "defender of the public ignorance" places a
>commercial post here.
>
>  What most of you don't realize is that very few of these individuals
>actually call the places whose ads they post to see if the price is still as
>advertised, if there is a minimum order, if the items are in stock, if the
>items are still available, how much the evil handling charge is (when was the
>last time you payed just shipping charges? Hmm?), when they would ship *IF* the
>item is in stock, etc...
>
>  Many of you may think that these people are doing a "public service" when in
>fact, what they are doing can be far more detrimental than you could imagine. 
>They are promoting a general feeling of mistrust by implying that the sellers
>who overprice their goods (whether intentional or not) are out to rip people
>off.  They are also promoting the BO (that's Best Offer) method of selling
>because sellers who don't spend their every waking hour with their faces stuck
>in the 900+ pages of the latest Shopper simply won't place a price on
>something to avoid inane confrontations with the above individuals.  And
>finally, there is the possibility that they won't sell here at all, and
>instead resort to using local avenues to display their goods.
>
>  This group has sadly deteriorated since the introduction of the "Covert
>Syndrome" and I have a rotten feeling that the people responsible are the
>types that won't buy a damn thing here due to paranoiac fear of paying more
>than the going price or being "ripped off".  They are only hurting us, the
>people who look here every day in hopes of finding that elusive bargain or
>post here in attempts to recoup a portion of our investments when we upgrade
>our systems.  Please do *your* part in discouraging the "Covert Syndrome", and
>maybe this will once again be an attractive alternative to classifieds in the
>"Sunday Times".
>
> [Soapbox Mode Off]
>
>Randy
>orb@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu
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>"I Thunk, Therfore I Wuz"  --Me

I completely disagree! I dunno if it degrades the quality of this newsgroup
or not, but if someone posts a REAL actual price on a NEW item which is lower
or even the same as, the price for the used item on here I APPRECIATE IT. I
don't see the implying you say is being done by most of these messages. I see
people saying, "Hey man, yer price is high", period. And I for one want to
know. I realise this group isn't for the posting of retail prices and such,
but I again appreciate knowing the going price AND the fact that there are
people who will spend the huge amount of time necessary to KNOW the best price
on an item. The Shopper is huge, sometimes we miss good deals, and I for one
want them pointed out. I hope those with some vigilance keep an eye out for
prices which are too high, as THIS will keep the used market thriving, by 
making this newsgroup more worthwhile to read, because IT HAS TO BE PRICED
REASONABLY or it WON'T SELL.
                         jamie@sally.acns.nwu.edu
p.s. Anyone with a really good deal on Hard-drives, count me in.

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