From: REXLEX@linac.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian
Subject: Re: biblical inerrancy / sign of Jonah
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:39:15 GMT
Organization: FNAL

In article <Sep.29.02.52.48.1992.4187@athos.rutgers.edu> REXLEX@linac.fnal.gov
writes:
>     Well, the first problem we have is the presupposition that it was on
>Friday that He was crucified.  (Oh no, I feel a heresy coming on....) Here's
the heresy then:  Christ was crucified on Wednesday, not Friday. 

Whoooooo Nellie..... stop with the Email already.  I'll type this out with a
fuller explaination.  If you don't like it, fine.  All I ask is that you think
it through. Jeese Louise.


OK, couple of things here as to the OT Law as it was applied at the Passover
and any sabbath.  1)  The lamb had to be w/o blemish (Ex. 12:5)  2) It was to
be chosen on the 10th day of Nisan (12:3).  Still with me?  It was on the 10th
day of the month, the preceding Saturday, that the triumphal entry into
Jerusalem was made, since they came from Jericho to Bethany 6 days before on
the Passover (Jn 12:1 -that would be 6 days before Thursday, which would have
therefore been Friday) and it was on the next day that the entry into Jerusalem
was made (Jn 12:12ff.), that is, on Saturday, the 10th of Nisan.   It was also
on this same day that Judas went to the chief priests and offered to betray
Jesus for 30 pieces of silver (Mt 26:6-16; Mk 14:3-11).  Are we still there? 
Ok, as it was after the supper in the house of Simon the leper, and as the
supper occurred late on Friday, that is, after sunset or early on Saturday,
after the supper would necessarily be on the 10th of Nisan.  This being the
price set on Him by the chief priests, it was the correlative to the buy of the
lambs which according to the law must occur on the 10th of Nisan.  (cf. Mt
26:15 with Zech 11:12)   3)  No broken bones (Jn 19:36 cf. Ex 12:46, Num 9:12,
Ps 34:20)  4)  And He was killed on the 14th Nisan between the evenings, just
before the beginning of the 15th Nisan at sundown (Ex 12:6).  
    Now if we take just exactly what the Bible says, namely that Jesus was
slain before the Passover sabbath, the type is wonderfully fulfilled in every
detail, however, if we accept the traditional theory, that Jesus was crucified
on Friday, the type falls on several points. 
    Also, if we accept the traditional view that Jesus was crucified on Friday
and ate the Passover on the regular day of the Passover, then the journey from
Jericho to Bethany, which occurred 6 days before the Passover (Jn 12:1) would
fall on a Saturday, that is, the Jewish sabbath.  Such a journey on the Jewish
sabbath would be contrary to the Jewish law.  Of course it was impossible for
Jesus to take such a journey on the sabbath.  Therefore, in reality, His
triumphal entry in Jerusalem was on the Jewish sabbath, Saturday.  This was
altogether possible for the Bible clearly tells us the Bethany was a sabbath
day's journey from Jerusalem  (cf. Acts 1:12 w/ Lk 24:50).
    Still with me or have I lost you?  As I've already stated, AD 30 is the
commonly accepted date/year given for the crucifixion. The moon was full on
Thursday, April 6th of that year.   Three full days and three full nights are
allowed for here if Jesus was not crucified on the Passover day but on "the
preparation of the Passover," and if that is so, then that day was Wednesday of
that year. Having died on Wednesday, it is exactly 72 hours later that we have
the beginning of the 1st day of the week (i.e. Saturday at sunset -remember the
Jewish day starts at sunset)  and His raising from the grave.  When the women
visited the tomb just before dawn the next morning, they found the grave
*already* opened.  
    For those of you who are already thinking ahead, and know the chronology of
events, you many be wondering what we do with Lk 24:21.  It is stated that it
was on the first day of the week (Sunday) that these men were on their way to
Emmaus.  "Besides all this, today is the 3rd day since these things were done."
 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.  Now lets see, if the crucifixion was on Wednesday, that
would make Sunday the 4th day.  Something screwy here for these inerrantist to
try and maneuver around!  Actually, its quite simple.  These things were done
just as Thursday was beginning at sunset on Wednesday.  They were therefore
completed on Thursday, since the 1st day since Thursday would be Friday, the
second day since Thursday would be Saturday, and "the 3rd day since" Thursday
would be Sunday, the first day of the week!   So the supposed objection in
reality supports the theory of Wednesday!  Now on the other hand, if the
crucifixion took place on Friday, by no means of mathematical manipulation
could Sunday be made the "3rd day since" these things were done!
    
The inerrant Scripture over and over again state the concept of the 3 days. 
Don't ask me to record all of them for you.  Just as my teachers told me, so
tell I you, I'm not going to do all your work for you!  (I'm smiling folks).   

Again, sit down and 1) logically think it thru and 2) get your Bibles out and
see how the passages corrolate.  I've given you some of the key verses &
passages so go to it.......

humbly, a doulos of Kristos,
Rex

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