HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 06:28:25 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <71722@cup.portal.com><1gl8haINNecu@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
  <OLDMAN.92Dec15200052@titan.ucc.umass.edu>

Dear Folks: Pardon me folks but I have to hasen Jason and get to work.
Excellent questions though.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Skeptic's UFO. Part 3.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 08:44:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Skeptic's UFO. Part 3. 
  I had been discussing this subject in the past and then got on the subject 
of pyramids so now we go back to the information of the Skeptic's UFO.
  This information came from a person by the name of Charles A. Silva. His 
book is called Date With The Gods. Charles is about one of the most sincere 
skeptics that I have ever heard about. At the present time (as of about last 
year) he  is in prison for some reason and I don't know that reason. 
  Charles is the person who showed Shirley McClain around in South America and 
then Shirley made a mini-series on TV about the experieces.  After Charles 
saw how the TV show went over big and Shirley apparently made a lot of money 
on the show, David decided that he would sue Shirley for a part of the money 
made from the show. That is at least what is said about him. I don't know 
whether it was true.  I would love to make a movie of his book. I figure he 
is a shady character and would be a good one to follow when he was shown 
some things about UFOs. If the space people could convince him they can 
convince anyone. 
   Anyway in parts 1 and 2 we talked about how Charles or whatever I called 
him at the time came in contact with a young looking lady down in South 
America.  She turns out to be about 300 of our Earth years old. Now you 
would think that coming in contact with a person from another planet and all 
that would cause Charles to be very serious and everything but he finally 
had sexual relationsions with the young looking lady. It seems that she uses 
the name Rama. She and her friends live in the icy peaks of the mountains 
close to where she met Charles.
  I'll try to not be very graphic about this but one day Rama put on a 
demonstration for Charles. She proceeds to devoid herself of clothes and 
puts on a special type of garment that she takes from a bag. With this 
garment on she stands on a rock and starts to lighting up like a christmas 
tree. She looks just the Virgin of Guadalupe. I hope that doesn't offend any 
religious people but that's what she did. 
  Later on Rama took Charles aboard a space craft and they went to some very 
primitive Earth people and she did this garment thing in front of them and 
the Earth people thought that they were gods and they fell down and 
worshiped them. Rama then taught the people and told them how they should 
conduct themselves. 
  On another occasion Rama was asked what books a person should read to learn 
the truth about UFO and she said to read the books written by T. Lobsang 
Rampa. 
  Rama many times called Charles by the name of Chacho because that is the 
name that the friends of Charles called him. 
  That's all the time I have for now.
End Part 3.
John Winston. 
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From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:35:22 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <71722@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

%Dear Folks: Where do all you people come from? To borrow a phrase
%from the great Len, by the way I'm a christian too. 
%John Winston

I'd rather be an X-man than an X-ian - there's only four letters difference
between "i" and "m" <don't pronounce the quotes>, but what a difference! I
note with interest that you spell christian with a small "c". Does that mean
you are a humanitarian? How do you feel about the Dead Sea scrolls? in
particular the theory that Christ was married to Mary Magdalen, and the virgin
Mary wasn't a virgin at all, but the term "virgin" was used to denote a woman
who was betrothed, but not yet married... Food for thought.

Jason "Wolverine" Saunders
By the way, I come from Coventry in England.
-- 
    "Merry Xvob!"      Jason L Saunders [ RouE ]       "Merry Xvob!"
                     email: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk
snail: Warwick Business School, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK
From: jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Historical Evidence of Krishna?
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:04:57 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
> jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE) writes:
>>emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
>>>
>>>The difference is that Krishna is a mythological character whereas
>>>Jesus is a historical person.  To refrase my statement: Jesus has been
>>>the only recognized historical spiritual leader to convince a great
>>>portion of the world that He is absolute truth (God).
>>
>>Actually, Krishna was a real human historical person. Try
>>reading the Mahabharata.
>
>What information does the Mahabharata give concerning the time and
>location of Krishna's birth?  Of his geneology?  Does any other
>source around that time period acknowledge him as a real person?
>Thanks for the info.
>

I can't answer your questions. Krishna's birth is said to have
been ca. 5000 years ago, and not very much was written down then.
The Mahabharata (though I have only read parts of it) is an
extensive volume and provides as much narrative of Krishna's
life as the bible does of Jesus' life. Other than that, many
God-realized teachers or advanced seekers have stated Krishna
was a real person, sometimes providing more details about
his life or describing experiences of meeting Krishna. I
would refer you to Parahamansa Yogananda's books 'Man's
Eternal Quest' or 'The Divine Romance' where he describes
experiences with both Jesus and Krishna (see table of
contents for relevant chapters).

Perhaps Kalki can provide some more information on this?

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|    Jeff Chance                       | That to which you   |
|    Dept. of Chemistry                | give your attention |
|    McGill University, Montreal       | becomes stronger in |
|    MAIL: jeffjc@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca | your life.          |
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From: alfa@csource.oz.au (glenn durden)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Tunnels #1.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:23:31 +1100
Reply-To: alfa@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

> Dear Folk: Without  a doubt things are going according to plan.
> John Winston


What plan is this?    To totally destroy alt.alien.visitors and drive everyone
away with your demented ravings?

.........................................................
glenn durden
alfa@csource.oz.au  Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
The opinions expressed above are that of the author only.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic,talk.bizarre
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: No laughing matter.
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:59:51 GMT
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage

In <1992Dec9.182306.2315@megatek.com> max@megatek.com (Max Elliot) writes:
>   We're going to make you wear a Bigfoot suit

That's bigfootf.  Can't they spell in Hell?
-- 
/|/-\/-\       I'll leave you with this saying:
 |__/__/_/     First, I'm going to give you all the ANSWERS to today's
 |warren@      test.. So just plug in your SONY WALKMANS and relax!!
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From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:14:56 GMT
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage
Organization: University of California, San Diego

[crossposted from talk.religion.newage, alt.alien.visitors, and
alt.religion.kibology]

In article <72095@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: MUFON SPEAKS OUT.

>   This is me (John Winston) speaking now. This all seems pretty far out but 
>if MUFON people say it you've got to believe it.

>Source of information: December 22, 1992-SUN-27.
>John Winston.

How many more AFU Mottos-of-the-week can we fit in? There's at least
two here . . .

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
-- 
All just the opinions of pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
From: darkshot@rock.concert.net (Michael B Garrett -- Chudys)
Subject: Raising dust as I vacate...
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:02:22 GMT

Ok, I've had it. As soon as the Jesus Contingent showed up, with the usual
wagonload of angels and demons, I figure this group is doomed.

I really do think that there should be a place to discuss this stuff rationally-but it obviously ain't here.

Later, kids. Don't forget to check under the bed. I'm off to mail my 
/etc/termcap to someone- about 100 times. B-)

'Shot

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:01:21 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Folks: In the award that Kibo gave me he also sent me a sheet of 
paper with 3 bonus points on it. If he will maybe he can put the 
people on who sponsors him. I let a friend of mine look at at and 
he nearly fell over laughing.
How about it Kibo can you post it?
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 06:15:13 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: Today I've decided to be nice.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Who Am I?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 12:28:05 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: The Winston Bible. 
  Back in the 1880s there used to be what people called Religious Fiction. If 
I was writing some of it this might be how if would go; As John was setting 
beside the Salton Sea his friend Jeff P. was seated by him. John said unto 
Jeff, "Who do people say that I the son of Homer am?"  Jeff then said unto 
him, "Some say thou art an alien, some that thou art an employee of the 
government and some say you are an employee of NASA. Then John said unto 
Jeff, "Some have stated with great gusto that I am actually  a young girl 
who is writing a document for her college and she wants to see what the 
reaction of the public is to a person posting strange things to the Net. It 
is also stated that they take count of the different reactions of the 
people.  They also believe that I not only am a young lady but I have a 
boyfriend who smokes Winstons.
  But I say unto you. Who do you say that I AM? And Jeff P. answered and said, 
Thou art an old man."  Then John said unto Jeff. Blessed art thou Jeff bar 
Roger (or who ever Jeff's father is) for flesh and blood hath revealed this 
unto you because you have come over to my house before. 
  So that is that folks.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic,talk.bizarre
From: dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch)
Subject: Re: No laughing matter.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:57:45 GMT

In article <92347.184209IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Solipsist@Large) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch) writes:
|> >In article <1g23g5INN6la@pms706.pms.ford.com>, ekimmina@pms001.pms.ford.com
|> >(Eric Kimminau) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> |> 2. Have you considered sending mail to his sysadmin?
|> >|> |>
|> >|> |> % mail root@hell.edu
|> >                  ^^^^^^^^
|> >|> |> Subject: Satan is bothering me
|> >|> |>
|> >
|> >What makes you think that hell is an edu site? I think that the correct
|> >e-mail adress is root@9th_circle.hell :)
|> >
|> >Daniel Silevitch                             dmsilev@athena.mit.edu
|> >Massachusetts Institute of Technology
|> 
|> What -- haven't you ever visited the MIT Grad School?  Or *any*
|> Grad School?
|> 
|> The Devil is real...and he's on your Dissertation Committee....
|> --

Sorry, I'm just a freshman :) In another few years, however...

Meanwhile, MIT undergrad is doing a reasonable impersonation of hell.

Daniel Silevitch
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From: geoffbe@ids.net
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: taking too long
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:52:54 EST
Organization: IDS World Network, (401) 884-9002 <data>, [155.212.1.2]

i want to see ghosts, read  minds, cast spells... something... some damned
thing... anything. 
we work so long and hard and fill our dull lives with so much of these goods,
we pay teachers, we seek guidance, we are introduced to spirits who we hope and
prey are there...
	then some of us see... 
	why don't I get to see!
why doesn't anything happen to me!
	go to the grounding ceremonies... I didn't feel it!
come on come on!
something has got to happen, past life regression, heal a child inside...
something... ANYTHING!

No more cop outs, I'm not looking for new friends or cool parties.. I want the
goods. 

Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:53:44 GMT

In article <OLDMAN.92Dec15200052@titan.ucc.umass.edu> oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:
>
>In article <1gl8haINNecu@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders) writes:
>>                                                               Does that mean
>> you are a humanitarian? 
>
>	Well, you know, if vegetarians eat vegetables, what do
>humanitarians eat?

This is the really odd part. Vegetarians also eat fruits and nuts, and
some even consume dairy products. I don't even want to know about
humantiarians.
 
>> Jason "Wolverine" Saunders
>> By the way, I come from Coventry in England.
>
>	I come from Amherst, Massachusetts in the states.  Or maybe
>that's Fitchburg, MA.  Or it could be Cumberland, RI.  Then again, it
>might be Storrs, CT (or Brookfield, CT for that matter).  Or possibly
>New York City.  Depends on whom you talk to.
>
>--
>Tig Stone
>(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
>
>Oh, the answer is "humanitables".


Rich

payner@netcom.com


Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:44:17 GMT
Organization: (Evil Eye Creature from Mars, Inc.)
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors

In article <72029@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com wrote:
> Dear People: Today is saturday. I'll see if I can conjure up some 
> earth shaking bit of information to share with you.
> John Winston.

Could you also let us know what you had for breakfast, and what
you think about glaced donouts? 

Kent
-------------------
Kent Sandvik (UUCP: ....!apple!ksand; INTERNET: ksand@apple.com)
DISCLAIMER: Private activities on the Net.		
"Don't just do something!  Stand there!"  -- Mystery Science Theater 3000
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen)
Subject: Strange coincidence (was:Re: Strange Letter.)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:58:25 GMT


Wow, I just realised:

John O'Connor
John Bigboote
John Winston

It all fits in now, and we can really see who John Winston is! I bet he's
from New Jersey too!

--Ralph 'call me perfect' Moonen

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 06:21:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Folks: I read something the other day from the people of the 
Pleiades and they said that the earth would be a member of the Galactic
concil by the year about 2027. I'll check it out and see exactly what 
they said and get back to you. 
John Winston.
From: patb@bnr.co.uk (Patrick Brosnan)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Judging John Winston
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:46:40 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs179.bnr.co.uk

A few words about the ever-popular John Winston.

John Winston, or whatever his real name is, seems to be deliberately out to
wreck this and other newsgroups. Many people seem to have been angered by his
posts and the junk threads which they sometimes spawn. Like just about
everything "bad" in this life this is an opportunity for sincere spiritual
seekers. We can either react angrily to JW and increase the amount of
ill-feeling in the world, or we can reflect on the situation from whatever
spiritual perspective suits us. My current favourite is as follows:

John, like the rest of us, is on his own individual path. He incarnated with his
present personality to learn certain things. Behaving the way he does will, 
I hope, teach him these things. The rest of us have probably behaved in similar
ways in previous lives for our own learning.

To think ill of people is to look at things from a superficial third dimensional
viewpoint. You miss the point completely; it's all a cosmic drama - the Dance 
of Life. You're in it, I'm in it, Mother Theresa, Saddam Hussein, the Ascended 
Masters, the Earth, the Milky Way and so on. We're all going in the same
direction, all part of the Oneness. Judgement only exists in duality and duality
is an illusion.

	Pat
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Strange Letter.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:07:41 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject:  The Letter.
  Today a friend of mine gave me a letter that was rather mysterious. He is 
the president of a company and for some unknown reason the letter was sent 
to him. Please don't attempt to hold me responsible for the the contents of 
this letter. I don't know whether the things will happen or not but I 
thought you might want to know this information. Here is how the letter 
went; Dear Sirs: As our shareholders we feel the obligation to give you this 
serious warning: 


As we told everyone just in June 1991, that the next President of the USA will 
be a democrat, when Bush was on his high of popularity, so we tell you now 
that a big meteorit will fall down in China and smaller ones all over the 
world and cause earthquakes, seaquakes and inundations all over the world. 

This is part of a cosmical event which leads the earth to a higher dimension 
and we must go through this yes or yes.

It will not take very long until it will happen, but when it happens, it will 
be to late to take measures. So you must act now:
*if you live in California: move out from California immediately, do it now 
don't wait you must leave California now and under any cirvumstances -please 
so it.
*If you don't live in California, cancel all your travel plans to go there and 
tell all the people you know living in California to move out of there now!
*buy drinking water, long-lasting milk and honey 
*buy first aid, long burning candles, matches
*buy sleeping-bags (in case you have to leave your home)
*also have dryed fruits, nuts etc. in quantity!

Don't buy less, buy more of the things, which are in first need!

There may be no electricity, because the atomic power plants have to be shut 
down, because of the risk of explosion. Earthqakes will be allver the world. 

This will happen, even if you don't believe it.

But it will not be bad, to buy more things in quantity, which you need anyhow.
And anyhow we wish you a successfull start into the New Year and remain

Sincerely yours, 
Georges McOrleon, vice-president CdC 3252, Asuncion, PARAGUAY (air-mail)
So this is me (John Winston) talking now. It is obvious that the person 
sending the letter did not have English as his primary language. I not going 
out of Calif. yet. I'll write this person and try to find out some more 
information about it.
John Winston.
 
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: beede@sctc.com (Mike Beede)
Subject: Re: Tunnels #1.
Organization: SCTC
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:45:37 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

>  It seems they have discovered  an undersea tunnel between
>Puerto Rico and Spain, which they believe connected the 
>fabled continent of Atlantis and Europe 10,000 years ago. 
>The 3,000 mile-long tunnel begins on the west coast of 
>Puerto and emerges in the Pyrenees Mountains, in the
>northern Spain. 

So Atlantis was Puerto Rico?  That is the implication, if the tunnel
connected Europe and The Big Apple (as it was known then), since Spain
is in Europe.

>  The air remains breathable and the pressure is constant even 
>five miles below the surface. 

This is a little startling.  What would happen if you filled the
tunnel with water?  Would the pressure still remain constant?  And
more importantly, why aren't we hearing about this on the news and in
the press (not the Weekly World News, either....).

>  The vast distances were probably covered by high speed ve-
>hicles powered by electricity, nuclear energy, or sound.

Rap music, no doubt.  What in the world connects electricity, nuclear
power, and sound?  Radioactive speaker cables on the walls?

>  Borovy says the tunnel dips deep into the Earth, running under
>the ocan at depths of five to ten miles.

What about that constant air pressure?  It was constant at five miles
depth.  What about at ten?

I know I'll regret replying to this, but I guess I can treat myself
once in a while....




-- 
Mike Beede         Secure Computing
beede@sctc.com     1210 W. County Rd E, Suite 100           
------------------ Arden Hills, MN  55112
                    (612) 482-7420
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Thoughts
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 06:24:21 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I hope you have not all moved off the planet after reading
the mysterious letter. We shall see what we shall see, maybe nothing.
John Winston.
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