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From: stone@bradley.bradley.edu (Steve Stone)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Congress email addresses?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:50:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Nov17.052333.13654@gallant.apple.com> kiddyr@gallant.apple.com (Ray Kiddy) writes:

>joeallen@usc.edu (Joe Allen) writes:

>>Anyone know how to mail to specific members of congress or senate?
>>Is there a list of such addresses anywhere?

>would that our representative were so aware of modern technology. 
 [text deleted]
>we will see - ray, ray@ganymede.apple.com
>
Another problem is that of access. One of the main reasons that the
postal service was set up was so that everyone would have affordable
access to their representatives. There are some that would say that
giving reps Internet accounts would be just another example of welfare
for the rich. The people with email accounts would have better, faster,
more prolific access to their reps than non-email people. This would
be discrimination based on network access.

So, reps won't have email addresses until the 'net is as easy to
access and use as the postal service. So, let's get busy and make
NREN, et. al. accessible and useable by all.

--insert favorite disclaimer here--

 
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From: croley@r2d2.mcc.com (David Croley)
Subject: Snail mail address for Queen of England?
Reply-To: croley@r2d2.mcc.com (David Croley)
Organization: MCC CAD Program
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:44:59 GMT

I am trying to locate the normal postal address for the Queen (of England). 
Anyone over there have any ideas.  I recently saw the BBC special on her.
Heard her house (Windsor Castle) is on fire this a.m. :( 


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From: bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu (Bill Goffe)
Subject: Database on Commercial Info Services Being Built
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:19:17 GMT

I came across the following article in _The Chronicle of Higher
Education_, Nov. 18, 1992, p. A17 in the _On Line_ section.


    A company interested in expanding the commercial use of the Internet
  wants to hear the opinions and gripes of people who use the network.
    Robert Raisch, president of Internet.COM, says his company would
  like to assemble a publically available data base of information
  services that can be obtained on the Internet. Comments from users
  would be used to rate the services.
    The decentralized nature of the Internet has meant that there is
  no central administrator who has a directory of available services,
  Mr. Raisch says. "There is nowhere you, as a consumer, can go to
  complain or simply to learn if other like yourself are pleased with
  a particular service provider," he says.
    Mr. Raisch says he hopes the data base can be available on the 
  Internet in January.
    Users who want to contribute to the survey can send comments to
  NET-SERVICES@CONTROL.COM.


I'd think this could be useful to this group for two reasons:
(i) to send the requested information to them, and (ii) to ask
them to post their data base here (or info on how to get it). To
accomplish this later goal, why not mention this idea if you 
send them any information. 

If nothing else, it would be nice just to see a *list* of the 
commercial service providers.

Bill Goffe
bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu
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From: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram")
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Queen of England? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Darren Ingram Media Services
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:24:27 +0000


In article <BZS.92Nov20200959@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com writes:

>No, quite literally, turn on the radio. One of the buildings in the
>Lower (whatever it is, in the Tower of London area) had quite a fire.

Actually Windsor is not in London, it is quite a way (40+ miles) away from
the centre of London.   The castle was severely damaged by fire.


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From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: EASYNET Access needed
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:12:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <92316.181455BKL104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BKL104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>      Does anyone out there know if AT+T's Easynet can be accessed through
> the net?  And if so, what the address might be??
>
> Any info at all would help...
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
> ------
> Brett K. Lynch
>
> brett@vivaldi.psu.edu
> bkl104@psuvm.psu.edu

I think you've confused DEC's Easynet with AT&T's EasyLink. If you *are*
referring to EasyLink AND you have paid a $50 (one-time fee) to the DIALOUT-AA
service of MERIT (telnet hermes.merit.edu  and at Which Host prompt type a ?
to get into the menu system. Look for info on DIALOUT-AA service), you could
login to MERIT's DIALOUT-AA service, type in your password, and then acess
EasyLink through their 800 number (which I believe is: 800-325-1436 or
800-325-4112). MERIT deducts 25 cents for each call from your $50 account.

Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL



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From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Re: TALK
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:11:49 GMT

Well, for some there is no option, as telnet is the only way to enter
some accounts.  What is the reasoning behind losing ones account for
allowing someone else access?  The gain access only to your accuont,
and you are responsible for waht occurs with your account.  I'm not
flaming, >I'm just curious about the reasoning behind this.

  Matt
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From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: FREE worldwide network access in Canada??
Organization: BC News and Mail
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:13:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.163912.22786@bmerh85.bnr.ca> myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui) writes:
>>One of the big problems with "free" feeds today is that even with a 
>>V32bis/V42bis modem you are looking at between five and ten hours a day
>>to get a "full" feed.
>
>I would be interested in seeing your cost analysis for leasing a T1 line
>between your upstream BCnet node and your site.

Don't know about T1. 56kbps leased line from me to BCNet is about $600 a
month. BCNet dues on top of that.

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From: crosenberg@igc.apc.org (Charlie Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: ERIC??? English Research in Composi
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:24:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov16.170743.11126@noose.ecn:1810313569:cdp:1674100013:000:289
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Nov 16 20:24:00 1992



I had the same problem with it.  It is avalaible on another machine but
you have to run a 3270 emulator to use it.  If that is of help,
send me email and I will look up the address for you, send it to me
at charlie@tecnet.me.tufts.edu  I don't have it handy on this machine.

=Charlie=
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Poetry online.....
Organization: The World
	<1992Nov20.124715.3396@maths.tcd.ie>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:06:56 GMT


>>The Online Book Initiative, a project to provide freely
>>redistributable texts on-line, has some poetry (and wishes it had
>>more.)
>
>Is this the same as the Guthenburg Book Project (which, I think, is from
>the FSF)

No, Gutenberg is another, parallel project, and very successful. We
certainly communicate so we don't duplicate efforts.

Also, Project Gutenberg is NOT "from" the FSF (although I suspect they
are great fans), it is an independent project headed by Michael Hart.

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From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: Re: TALK
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:32:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.015830.24696@cs.uwp.edu> datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta) writes:
>Matthew A Appler (mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu) wrote:
>: Telnet into the person's system....You will need their login and
>: password to do this, but if they trust you enough......
> 
> People here who are caught doing this lose their accounts.
>-- 
I didnt follow the early part of this discussion, but you can type 
"f @<site>" to get a list of who's currently logged onto that system, then
"talk <person>@<site>" to get their attention, thus you never have to
log onto any other system besides your own.

[/]
From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: freenet
Date: 23 Nov 1992 03:15:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Now for that update you've been waiting for:
  The telnet number for the University of Michigan gopher server
is 141.211.186.227. (or "um-gopherblue") Those in the state of
Michigan can get onto that without being asked for any form of 
ID or account number.
  At the main menu, select "World-Wide Network Resources."
  At this menu: Other Gophers in the state of Michigan.
          Then: Michigan State University Gopher
          Then: Internet Resources
          Then: FREE-NET systems
  The Free-Net menu allows access to four freenets: Cleveland
(that's mine!), Heartland, Tri-State Online and Youngstown. All
or three of these are in Ohio, but because I bypassed having to
type my University of Michigan account number and password, 
anyone who can access a gopher and can use it to connect to the
U-M gopher can, too.
  I'd like to note that it's a lot faster to access the Free-
Nets this way. When at first an attempted connection to the 
Cleveland Free-net fails, the "FREE_NET systems" menu reappears.
I then re-enter the Cleveland Free-net selection, simple as
that. No re-typing host name, account number or password. In
other words, NO SWEAT! Do e-mail me to tell me if it works for
you or not. I love it.

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From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Mailing Lists
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:40:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: listserv

My apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to ask, but where can I
find faq/info about starting up a Mailing List?  There is a burgeoning
faction of Internet users in my graduate English program ... not enough to
warrant a newsgroup, I don't imagine, but enough to make me wish we had an
easier way to communicate as a group.

Thanks in advance,

Steven Rubio
srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu
From: chris@coombs.anu.edu.au (Chris @ SSDA)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Queen of England?
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:39:57 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:


>>> Heard her [the Queen of England's] house (Windsor Castle) is on fire...
>>
>>figuratively speaking, perhaps...

>No, quite literally, turn on the radio. One of the buildings in the
>Lower (whatever it is, in the Tower of London area) had quite a fire.

>Prince Andrew was in the building at the time and assisted in removing
>some valuables although it is certain that some things have been lost.

Playing with matches again...


Chris.

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From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: What/How to use  ".netrc"
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:23:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.044730.5029@sbcs.sunysb.edu> aalmahmu@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Bengal Tiger) writes:
>I am sure this has been asked before. Sorry for the bandwidth.
>Could someone let me know what is this  ".netrc"  file, how to use it, where
>to get more info on this, etc.  Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry - no explanation - just example. easiest way to do this...

sample .netrc: (default means that any machin that isn't in the .netrc
                will attempt an anonymous login)
               (macdef begins a macro from within ftp)

default login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca

machine nuri.inria.fr login anonymous password -franklin@

machine iraun1.ira.uka.de login anonymous password -franklin@

machine archive login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca
macdef init
cd n/archive/0/extra-ftp/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive
lcd ~franklin/public/unix

machine ftp.uu.net login anonymous password franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca
macdef init
cd /usr/spool/ftp/published/unix-world/grabbag
lcd ~franklin/public/downloads

machine sumex-aim.stanford.edu login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca 
macdef init
cd info-mac
lcd ~franklin/public/downloads



machine rascal.ics.utexas.edu login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca

machine worf.harvard.edu login anonymous macdef init
cd mac/incoming
lcd ~franklin/public/downloads


machine wuarchive.wustl.edu login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca 
macdef init
cd mirrors2/macintosh
lcd ~franklin/public/downloads


machine shavenyak.css.itd.umich.edu login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca 
macdef init
cd mac
lcd ~franklin/public/downloads


machine gatekeeper.dec.com login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca

machine cs.uwp.edu login anonymous password -franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca 
macdef init
lcd ~franklin/temp/music/lyrics
cd pub/music/lyrics/files


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From: jozsef@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Jozsef Szklenar)
Subject: NEWS installation in Hungary
Originator: jozsef@granite
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:50:19 GMT


Our university will be connected to Internet in the immediate in Hungary.
We would like to use a NEWS server.
What kind of softwares must we procure, and where can we find documentations
about operate of NEWS?
Tankx for help, Joe
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From: kwolf@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Wolf)
Subject: Address
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:15:13 GMT

I am trying to find the address for Kendall Collage of Art and Design in
Grand Rapids, Michigan. I am not even sure they are on internet. Any
help would be appreciated.

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From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
Subject: Re: Justification for commercial access to INTERNET facilities?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:21:02 GMT

In article <1e5b1tINNgds@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
>
>
>What is the justification for allowing the connection of commercial
>entities with no appropriate federal contract/grant responsibilities
>to the federally subsidized (either via direct tax revenues and/or
>via tax preference subsidized private donations) INTERNET long haul
>network transport media?  The INTERNET was originally constructed
>for transport of military/government/academic code and data - with
>provision for the connection of a few commercial entities with some
>significant federal contract/grant responsibility & need for access.
>

Your questions might have made sense five years ago, when "Internet" was
more closely synonymous with "ARPANet."  But there are now several
commercial Internet providers, who use their own high-speed lines,
computers, etc., to provide Internet-like service.  For example, this
message comes from the World, the New England point of presence for
Alternet, a commercial provider of network services.

But aside from that, as a taxpayer, I have to ask why I should not be
allowed to use something my tax dollars have paid for?  If my government
is pouring a lot of money into a network that provides such interesting
and useful services as online libraries and databases, why should this be
treated any differently than, say, a federal depository library?

Are you familiar with the com-priv mailing list?  The questions you raise,
along with questions related to privatizing the Internet, are debated
there extensively.  Many Usenet sites carry the list as a newsgroup
(search for "com-priv).


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From: ctpku01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Kuch)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: FSP sites?? Any available?
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:06:37 GMT
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG

I only know two fsp-sites:

	18.172.1.2
and
	134.2.71.63

Mike
From: imoss@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ira David Moss)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: CARL network
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:12:37 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver


For those of you people intersted in ERIC, online Encyclopedia's etc.. I
recomen
d the Carl network as on the the best only free services offered.  The network
consists of more that just one library.  The whole network has many that go
from coast to coast.  Some require that you be a student or have a library card
at some of the sites, but many servies do not.

   telnet  to  ucb.carl.org     or 192.54.81.121


   Ira Moss
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From: journeyman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Andy Settle Journeyman Ltd)
Subject: Re: Snail mail address for Que
Reply-To: journeyman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:09:00 +0000

lka)

Windsor castle IS on fire, HM took part in attempts to retrieve some
of the works of art with help from Andrew and Charles.
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From: wolfgang@nosc.mil (Lewis E. Wolfgang)
Subject: Re: TALK (giving away passwords)
Reply-To: wolfgang@nosc.mil
Organization: NCCOSC, NRaD Division
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:55:42 GMT

In article 92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu, mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler) writes:
>Well, for some there is no option, as telnet is the only way to enter
>some accounts.  What is the reasoning behind losing ones account for
>allowing someone else access?  The gain access only to your accuont,
>and you are responsible for waht occurs with your account.  I'm not
>flaming, >I'm just curious about the reasoning behind this.
-----

I can't speak for other sites, but being a military facility we consider
giving out a password a security violation.  When a user has an account
on a system, he/she may have access to information intended only for other
authorized users of that system.  Authorized users are considered to be
"friendly" and unlikely to try to gain root access or to cause other 
troubles.  Thus, by giving away your password you relinquish control
and responsibility for the correct useage of your account.  

In our context, a user giving away their password would not only loose
their home account, but we would setup one for them at 
leavenworth.fed.prison.gov :-)

					Luck,
					Lewie
					wolfgang@nosc.mil