From: phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C J Tilbury)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Drugs
Followup-To: alt.rave
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:00:46 -0000
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Summary: Yes folks - its more babbling about DRUGS!!!
Keywords: Quick! Hide the Children! We're talking about DRUGS!!!!

In article <10950@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>In article 1de3fgINNph0@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk, phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Chris Tilbury) writes:
>
>>And COKE?!?!?! (No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just amazed anyone would
>>consider this a recreational drug. Then again, maybe it's just me.....)
>Not challenging your ethics - I respect your point of view - , but
>coke is obviously recreational, because unless you're addicted there's
>no other reason to take it and the only way you can become addicted
>to these things is by taking them too much - why? - for recreational purposes!

Fair enough. It may be recreational, but its not what I'd call a "nice" drug.
It gives you an IMMENSE feeling of self confidence, almost as if you feel like
you can do anything, and that you need no-one else to help you. This is in
direct contrast to something like E, which produces a real sensation of caring
for other people and a sense of community.

I went to the Digbeth Institute in Birmingham on saturday night, because
Mike Pickering was playing a set, and there were a few "coke-heads" there. I'd
have to describe them as the most arrogant clubbers I've ever met. Maybe 
they were the exception rather than the rule though.

>>(Then again, I've never actually been to a "rave" as such. The idea of
>>standing in the rain with 20,000 people getting muddy never struck me as
>>being much fun. I'd rather pay to go in a nice warm, dry, safe club. :-> ) 
>Wimp.

No. Just more interested in listening/dancing to some good music than worrying
about getting beaten up by some shady looking fellas with baseball bats and
knives. ( check out the current edition of mixmag for an article about 
violence at raves here in the UK , and what the promoters are doing about 
stamping it out ).

>>And how many "I'm Bored/Beautiful" people are there, who spend all night at
>>the side of the dance floor, with cigarette in one hand, slagging off
>>everyone they see....
>Oh. I can't say I've seen much of this. Certainly not something you'd find
>in Aus. The UK scene must indeed be sad these days.

No. Its just alot older. The UK scene has diversified in the past year, and 
you've got to take the bad with the good. 

>
>>"Q:How many ravers does it take to change a light bulb?
>> A:100 : 1 to change it, and 99 to moan about how much better the old one was."
>Oh. Sad. Never mind, maybe Square Dancing will see a glorious comeback in the
>UK.

Sorry, but this coming from the country that brings us 'Neighbours', and 'Home
and Away'???.

Thats actually a joke that Graeham Park made in an interview in mixmag. He was 
saying how much the people who say "Oh, its _alright_ now, but it was _so_ much
better in 88/89" piss him off. I can't remember his exact words, but they went
something like, "Come to the Hacienda on a saturday night. The queues around 
the corner by 9pm, we're full up and the doors shut at 11, and the atmospheres
easily as good as _any_ night from 4 years ago.."

I'd agree with him. :-)

	keep the faith, 

		Chris.


-- 
Chris Tilbury						phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk
"Q:How many ravers does it take to change a light bulb?
 A:100 : 1 to change it, and 99 to moan about how much better the old one was."
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