From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Keywords: No 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.223015.1426@oakhill.sps.mot.com> kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com  writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.191040.21216@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.144828.21438@oakhill.sps.mot.com> kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr14.005415.17863@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>>   Only presenting some words like above is not necessarily persuasive .
>>>>   The "joke" can be understood after you answer me the following questions :
>>>>
>>>>  1. How many professors and engineerers had moved to Taiwan at the time ? How many
>>>>universities were built after that ? How many excellent intellectuals left for
>>>>Taiwan ?   
>>>
>>>
>>>   You tell us. Give us names. You are the first person who mentions these question. 
>>
>>It is impossible to name thousands of them , and I am always poor at remembering other people's
>>names .  For example , I only know a couple of American singers' names .
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  2. Do you think Taiwan had better basis to develope so fast ? ( In resourses and 
>>>>geography , as well as background ) 
>>> 
>>>                                      
>>>   How much do you know about Taiwan?  
>>
>>Very little .
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  3. How much of the gold reserve was transfered to Taiwan through warships ? 
>>>>( I have werstern resources in hand , but I hope you can look for it by yourself 
>>>>for more materials .)   
>>>
>>>
>>>   I cannot deny there were those gold nuggets, I cannot prove it either. However,
>>>based on the past of the KMT and its mentality, I doubt it has ever used those
>>>gold nuggets to build Taiwan.
>>
>>I am not pro-KMTer . That is why I used " FACTUALLY".
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>PS : Give me explainations , not conclusions only .  Not all the conclusios come
>>>>that easily . 
>>>
>>>
>>>   Give me facts, but not conclusions. No conculusions can come from propaganda. 
>>
>>This "PS" has no need to be proved .
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>PS+ : You can mention the economic policy of Taiwan in late 1960s and 1970s . But
>>>>if had not been for the accumulation of the precious " resources" , is it possible
>>>>that Taiwan develop so fast ?  
>>                      ^^^^^^^^^ = ??
>>
>>Germeny didn't recover a few yeras after WW I . But it did recover in a few years ,
>>After WW II . Why so fast ? Ask both USA and Germany . The reasons are more than one . 
>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>   This is a classical example of people can connect un-related or loosely related
>>>facts and ridiculous conclusions. 
>>
>>I respect your opinion . But you need to prove my points were wrong . 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>PS++ : Please consider opposite opinions seriously , otherwise we can all be "media
>>>>men".
>>>
>>>    We do, but you are not right. 
>>
>>Yes , many people , put themselves in a right position theses days , at the beginning .
>>
>>
>> 
>
>Mr. Zuo:
>
>       You really surprise me by the way you answer my questions. Your three questions
>sound like you know a lot of Taiwan and its economic achievement. Now you tell us you

Did I ?

>know "very little" about Taiwan. You ask me to prove your points are wrong. You just
>prove by yourself. 

Did I ?

>
>       Just for your information. Only few engineering school or university was built 
>after 1949. Majority of the faculty in the universities from '50 to '70 were not that

The potential under the high educational level was not the only " few engineering school
or universities" can represent . What was the population of Taiwan at the time ? 
10 million ? Three or four new universities can be a potential impact to the future .

>great. I am not saying that none of the professors were great, just not too many. The

Many of the old generation of professors from Mainland contributed to the " not too
many ". The rising of a society needs " not too many " great " brains , but many just
above average brains with good knowledge .

>universities in Taiwan did not have a significant number of good engineering 
>professors until the visitng professors came.  
>

A high educated society be easily swith to the need of its developement .

>       Finally, I really don't understand what point(s) you try to make by mentioning
>Germany. Do they have the gold nuggets from the mainland too?
>

Is this your only understanding ? Think of Uncle Sam's support to Germeny , Japan and 
Taiwan just after WW II ( In billions ) . To form walls against USSR and China .
                             ^^^^^^^ a much "grater" unit than now as to this .