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From: jwang@sys.toronto.edu (Jingwen Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: SIGTSTP got translated into SIGHUP?
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:47:05 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto


   We are using a remote execution server (quite similar to the rlogind)
to start remote processes. The strange thing is that if I send a SIGTSTP
signal to this remotely started process, it is not stopped, while the same 
program running on local host is stopped properly.

   Looking into the man pages on hpux, I found the following:
    When a process that is in an orphaned process group (see glossary(9))
    receives a SIGTSTP, SIGTTIN, or SIGTTOU signal, the process is not stooped
    because a process in an orphaned process group is not allowed to stop.
    Instead, a SIGHUP signal is sent to the process, and the SIGTSTP, SIGTTIN,
    or SIGTTOU is discarded.

    My question is: 

    1. Where is the above mentioned glossary(9)? I could not find it on 
       several HP machines running hpux8.07 and hpux8.05.

    2. Why should the kernel enforce the signal action? All other unix
       systems do not have this smart. I should be able to send any
       signals to my process; whether the process should stop or not is
       is totally user's bussness.

    3. What is the precise definition of an orphaned process group?


Any help is greatly appreciated.

jwang

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: elsen@imec.be (Marc  Elsen)
Subject: X and Motif libraries under HP - UX
Reply-To: elsen@imec.be (Marc  Elsen)
Organization: IMEC V.Z.W.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:05:43 GMT




   I am new to Hp - UX : Do X and Motif libraries come standard
 with the OS or is it layered ?
 Thanks for all info , 

 Please reply using e-mail.


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From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Index matching Filesets to HP Product #'s
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:43:42 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

At one time I have seen an index that matches HP Product #'s
(the things that you order and pay $$ for) against filesets,
which are the lowest common element of grouping of HPUX.

When you load (update) or remove (rmfn) filesets, you are 
dealing in parts of the overall Products for which you paid.

Does anyone have an electronic version of this index?  Im not
sure if it was ever made available outside of HP... 

stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: justin@hp750.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: can you hook up a LaseJet to a 9000/7xx?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:38:03 GMT

cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner) writes:


>can you hook up any of the Laserjet series to a 9000/7xx 
>workstation?
>(how can I get some drivers?) thanks for the emailed replies.....
>CW

<ahem..>
Hewlett-Packard to Hewlett-Packard? Does IBM trash work well with other
disposable IBM equipment? Of course! Just use SAM.. (SAM 9.0 is very, very
nice, BTW) If you're using a LaserJet with a PostScript cartridge, specify 
a postscript printer, not a LaserJet. You just tell SAM what printer it is,
where it is (what port it hangs from) and it does the rest for you.

This machine has a LaserJet IIIP (PostScript) on the Parallel port, a
PaintJet XL on Serial Port A, and a LaserJet IIP (PostScript) on the 700/RX
xterminal.. All configured through SAM in about 30 seconds.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: .login not executed
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: CSC System Sciences Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:13:00 GMT

In article <8260001@mothra.rose.hp.com>, tire@mothra.rose.hp.com (Thomas Wolfe) writes...
> 
>I have not encountered your problem with .profile not being read at
>login, but in each window you open if you type
> 
>.. .profile
> at the unix prompt, your .profile will be reread and any changes will
> be installed at that time. This is also useful when you make changes to
> your .profile since you do not have to logout then login again./
>  
> 

We've found two apraoches to solve this.  I set "*loginShell" to true in my
resource database (I hate xrdb, but I use it).  Some of my co-workers moved a
lot of stuff from .profile into a ".kshrc" and set ENV to point to that.  I
don't know what's required for ENV to work, it doesn't work for me.  I am under
the impression that setting *loginShell may be a bit overkill.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: craig@fc.hp.com (Craig Bryant)
Subject: Re: Can't find this panic error in the error messages book
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:31:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Workstation Kernel, Ft. Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

H Prasad Cherukuri (hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: The other day while I was using our HP (series 400, HP-UX 8.0), the machine just
: crashed with the following message:

: 	panic: E_HW_NOT_STP7
: 	    
: It dumped about 26mb of core to dev 0x70e0600, offset 180533.

: When this happened, I was only using the HP to telnet to another
: machine. And no one else was running any processes either.

: I rebooted it afterwards and it is working fine now. My question is
: what does the above panic message mean? I looked into the error
: messages book and there is no mention of this error(although there
: are other panic errors mentioned).

: The dumped core seems to be awfully big to me. So while rebooting
: does this get deleted or do I have to delete it manually? 

: I appreciate any help in this regard.

: harish cherukuri
: hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

	Basically the hardware part of the LAN card did not agree with
	what the driver thought it should.  Could be just a cosmic ray
	hit a register :).  Anyways, I wouldn't worry about it unless
	it keeps happening, then I would start with the LAN card.

	As for the core dump.  It should be this size of your RAM.  When
	the machine crashes, the core file gets written into your primary
	swap space.  If the directory /tmp/syscore existed when you rebooted
	the machine, the core file got copied into that directory, otherwise
	it just got overwritten when that space was used for swap.

Craig Bryant
UDL/OSSD
Hewlett Packard
Ft. Collins, CO

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From: mjo@iao.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How to exclude the copywrite notice@login
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:47:51 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Company
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost

In article <1993Jan22.210729.20956@ra.royalroads.ca>
dpettyjo@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Darrell Pettyjohn) writes:

:I am running HPUX8.07 on a HP9000/720.
: 
:  Thanks in advance for any information.

Edit /etc/copyright.

						...Mike

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From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: Need specs on hp9000 computer.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:13:47 GMT




I have an HP 9000/500 UNIX system
    o one processor
    o full memory + spares
    o 8 channel mux card (RS-232)
    o hp2648 terminal 
I need ths specs on the above system.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
From: to3@ph3hp840.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Thomas Stuempfig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: X11/Xmu
Date: 26 Jan 1993 18:09:47 GMT
Organization: Physikalisches Institut, U of Stuttgart, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ph3hp840.physik.uni-stuttgart.de

In article <1k3o1eINNhrn@corax.udac.uu.se> hb@csd.uu.se (Henrik B}kman  CSD) writes:  
>
>I am trying to compile a X-program but there is some problems.
>The program wants to include <X11/Xmu/Error.h> but under
>/usr/include/X11R5/X11 there is no directory Xmu on hpux 9.01.
>If you look in the "original" mit-distribution there is one.
>
>I tought hpux after a long time should be "compatible" with
>mit-X but it seems not to :-( or have I done something wrong?
I don't know much about HP-UX 9.0, we still are running 8.05, but if you
need Xaw and Xmu, you can get them for example at 'ftp.csc.liv.ac.uk'.
At least for HP-UX 8.05 this works fine and since I've done it it's much
more fun to install new software.

  Thomas Stuempfig

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP 710 Audio questions...
From: solomon@pa621a.inland.com (Paul J. Solomon)
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:31:42 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: skolly

I have several audio-related questions about the HP 705/710 system:

   1) Is it possible to change the volume of the audio output without
      having to run (graphical) programs like "acontrol"?   For example,
      is there a simple program in the form of:

               changevol /dev/audio vol-level

      that wouldn't necessarily have to be run under X-windows?

   2) Is there a file-format converter (sox, perhaps?) available to
      convert from .snd to .au files.  (.au files seem to be easier
      to play with "player", than .snd files...)

   3) Has anyone added any audio capabilities to any HP software, such
      as xclock, etc.?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-paul.
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From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: can you hook up a LaseJet to a 9000/7xx?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:27:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


can you hook up any of the Laserjet series to a 9000/7xx 
workstation?
(how can I get some drivers?) thanks for the emailed replies.....
CW
From: stockel@taupo.oc.nps.navy.mil (Jim Stockel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Centronics on 730.  Help!
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:23:26 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA


Hi,

Some time back in August, I followed a thread on comp.sys.hp about using
the Centronics port of a 9000/730 for data input.  According to the 
discussion, input on the centronics is possible.  The last message I
caught was from rose@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Rose Palombo):

 >> "man cent" on my 9000/730 (HPUX 8.07) tell me that the Centronics parallel
 >> port only supports writes. Is this a hardware or a software limitation?
 >> 
 >> If it's a software limitation, does anyone know if/when reads from the
 >> Centronics port might be supported?

 >> It's a manual page limitation. The 700 parallel port can do bidirection
 >> I/O. If only you know the mode bits in the minor number...

 > Changes were made to the Centronics driver in HP-UX 8.07 to support
 > additional modes.  The mode is set via the lower 3 bits of the device
 > file's minor number.  We are supporting modes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
 > Information about this did not made it into HP-UX 8.07 documentation.
 >
 > Here are the mode descriptions I am aware of for the Centronics driver.

 >	mode 1,2:  NACK with NOT BUSY automatic handshake;
 >		   BUSY only automatic handshake
 >
 >	mode 3:    Scanjet bidirectional NSTB only
 >
 >	mode 4:    tektronix stream mode 1 usec delay
 >
 >	mode 5:    PULSED NACK with NOT BUSY automatic handshake
 >
 >	mode 6:    PULSED BUSY only automatic handshake
 >

 
We are considering using the centronics port on our 7000/730 (HPUX 8.07)
to bring in a 16 bit parallel data stream from an instrument, and I would
like to get more information on how to do this.

First, what we have is a 176 Kb/s data rate, that is FIFO'ed in hardware so
that it can tolerate up to 80 mS of latency.  In the past we have used a 
GPIO interface on a 300 series computer, but we are now migrating to a 700
where drivers for a GPIO are not yet available (hint, hint.  Anybody know
anything about HP plans to support an EISA/ISA GPIO card?).

If using the centronics for input is feasible we will build the necessary
hardware to make our instrument talk centronics.  Questions we have include:

- can the centronics port do  better than 176 Kb/s.

- is mode 3 (of the 6 modes mentioned above) the only
bi-directional mode, and can anyone give more details of the modes, ie
timing diagrams of hand shake lines, logic levels, what is NSTB etc.

- the HPUX 8.07 documentation on centronics does not discuss input, is there
more information on programming for input, and can this be done with the DIL
library delivered with our system.

- can we use open collector outputs on our device with 2k2 pullups to 5v 
to connect to the 8 data lines of the centronics port.  If not, what 
would be appropriate.

Thanks in advance for any help, hints etc.  Post here or respond to me at:

	stockel@arola.oc.nps.navy.mil or
	stockel@taupo.oc.nps.navy.mil

If there is interest, I will summarize.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: DANGER! frecover fails to read DAT tape
From: claudio@edy.elettra.trieste.it (Claudio Scafuri)
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:10:12 +0100
Distribution: world
Keywords: fbackup frecover DAT 

Hi folks!

Be very careful: if you backup your system (HP-UX8.07)on a HP series 6400 model 2000 DAT drive on 90m DDS cassetes with fbackup you may be unable to read the tape with frecover. The program asks you for a second volume tape when you have
all your stuff in one tape. Other configurations should be tested.
HP says it is a known bug and has a patch for it (PHCO_1611)
The problem is that we were informed of this patch by HP support only line when we asked for help. I think that HP should notice all its customer of a problem of such gravity, especially if they have a ready solution for it.

Claudio Scafuri

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From: hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-HIL
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:56:02 GMT
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.graphics.cornell.edu

	Product# 46082B 30m Hil extender cable is a high conductance
		cable with a baln at each end - comes with rgb cables
		the same length. 	
		 46082B				$1,115
				delete rgb's	  -200 (~)
		 46082A 15 meter version	$  800
				delete rgb's	  -150 (~)

I have strung together hil devices to a total length of >30ft without
balns...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Fujitsu drives in hp 730 ?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:21:04 GMT

In article <Hendrik.Klompmaker.42.727565461@beheer.zod.wau.nl> Hendrik.Klompmaker@beheer.zod.wau.nl (Hendrik Klompmaker) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'm shopping for some diskspace and after asking HP for their new 2Gb. disk 
>I found someone to offer the same size Fujitsu drive for half the money. 
>Does anyone have any experiance with these Fast SCSI-2 drives ?

We have used the Fujitsu M2266S-512 on a 730 with no trouble;
our M2652S-512 (2.0 GB unformatted) disk has given us no end of problems,
but this might be due firmware problems in the disk controller where
it corrupts data under heavy I/O loads. In any case, that drive has
been discontinued (and new firmware is available for it which has
corrected other users problems with that disk on non-HP systems),
and has been replaced with the M2654S-512 (2.4 GB unformatted). We
are going to swap our M2652S-512 for a M2654S-512 next week, so I
can let you know how that goes. The partition on our M2652S-512 that
does light I/O has worked perfectly. We use ours on SCSI-1 since we
don't have the EISA adaptor, but the drive configuration is changed by
jumpers.
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From: mike@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Michael C. Sidman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Help needed on HP 9000/350 crashing (UX 7.0)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 01:31:54 GMT
Organization: EEAP, CWRU, Cleveland
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.eeap.cwru.edu
Summary: I think that my machine is really, really f*cked.
Keywords: HP 9000/350, UX 7.0, Crashing, Pissed off Admin.

Greetings HPeople,

	I have a question for the hardware gods of ancient HPs.

	I admin a small (12 HP machines) cluster of clients, and
1 HP 9000/350 Server, running on HP-UX 7.0 (stop laughing).  

	I have experienced 2 complete crashes - one on 6 Dec,
and one today.  I am at a loss to figure out the cause - all
I see on the consoles are the panic messages.  I have reason
to think it would be the memory that has gone awry.

	We've had top notch performance out of HP's, they've been
great in terms of reliability - these are old machines and have
served well - but we are an academic site, and by default, WE ARE
POOR.  I'm open to any suggestions, and would greatly appreciate
any comments from past experience.

	I'd love to see some new HP's, but the fact is that I won't
see them (at least) until our new budget kicks in....if it is that
soon.

	Any help is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Michael






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From: wem6n@brain.med.virginia.edu (Will McClennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Voice Recognition?
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:55:22 GMT
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, UVa

Is anyone using voice recognition software specifically on an HP 
workstation, although I would be interested in voice recognition use in
general as well.

  Thank you,
  
    Will McClennan
    Dept. of Neurosurgery
    University of Virginia
    wem6n@Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jbr0@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.a.brownlee)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu drives in hp 730 ?
Reply-To: joe@cbcosmos.att.com
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:38:04 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: disk

In article <43907@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
> In article <Hendrik.Klompmaker.42.727565461@beheer.zod.wau.nl> Hendrik.Klompmaker@beheer.zod.wau.nl (Hendrik Klompmaker) writes:
> >I'm shopping for some diskspace and after asking HP for their new 2Gb. disk 
> >I found someone to offer the same size Fujitsu drive for half the money. 
>
> Try a third from some vendors (Western Scientific is the best price
> I've found).

I'm shopping around for these same drives, too.  If anyone would like to
recommend a vendor that they have had success with and that accepts corporate
P.O.'s, I'd like to hear about them.  Please e-mail to save bandwidth (I've set
followups to poster).  Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan)
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Keywords: upgrade
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:11:14 GMT

In article <43779@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
>We'd like to get an upgrade for our 730 to a 735, but our local HP
>office can't get much useful information about what you actually get
>with the upgrade.  Does anybody know if the 735 resulting from the
>upgrade is exactly the same as a 735 ordered new?  In particular,
>are the SCSI ports the same?  What about memory?  Can one re-use
>disks and such from the original 730?  What version of HP-UX is
>required?

Information on this varies depending on who you talk to.  Right now, I
believe that the 735 upgrade gives you the machine you would have if you
bought the 735.  I was talking to my sales rep. on Tuesday and he said the
upgrade gave us the new SCSI ports.  Of course, he also said it didn't come
with extra memory.  I think he was wrong on that point since others have told
me they did get extra memory.

It definately requires 9.0 and I was told the disks and memory can be reused.


Gordon

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: Problems with HP C++
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:11:58 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <JFM.93Jan27212352@babalu.inesc.pt>, jfm@babalu.inesc.pt (Joao Martins) writes:
>
>Hi there,
>
>I am currently building a rather large application using HP C++ 3.0.
>It compiles without trouble, but when I try to link it, the loader
>complains with the following error message:
>
>cc: error 1405: "/bin/ld" terminated abnormally.
>

The actual linker error is being masked by cc; you need to turn
on -v to see what actually happened (or link by hand using /bin/ld).
Then call the Response Center; we have found many linker problems
with our large (!) C++ programs.

- Greg
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