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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:31 CDT
From:         Lillian Sorenson <LILLIAN_SORENSON@dsu1.dsu.nodak.edu>
Subject:      Internet accessible library?

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Does anyone out there know the telnet address for any library
OPAC's in Belgium?  I would be most appreciative of any advice in
this regard.  Thanks in advance.


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*  Lillian Sorenson                               *
*  Automation Librarian                           *
*  Dickinson State University Library             *
*  Dickinson, N.D.  58601                         *
*  701-227-2561                                   *
*  Internet  lsorenso@vm1.nodak.edu               *
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*  "A good place to live is where you want to be."  *
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:53 CDT
From:         "(Jose Perez Carballo)" <carballo@cs.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Request from Bombay (CARL requieres user id)
              4 Nov 1992 10:12:15 CDT <9211041632.AA01668@cs.NYU.EDU>

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>CARL (Colorado Association of Research Libraries) provides current
>contents searching, as well as retrospective index searching, of
>several thousand journals.  Articles can be ordered online using a
>...

but, isn't it true that most interesting services provided by CARL
requiere a user id?
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:59:33 CDT
From:         Tim Lynch <lynch@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu>
Subject:      Job Announcement

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Job Announcement

Senior Systems Analyst
Job No PT4311
Albert R. Mann Library
Available December 10, 1992

The Mann Library at Cornell University has a national reputation for
its innovative use of information technology, and for its research and
development projects. This position under the general direction of
the Head, Information Technology Section, Mann Library, will: create
innovative and imaginative information systems for scholars through
systems analysis, design, and programming; provide consultative
support to technicians to maintain the Library's network and computer
systems; make presentations describing the Library's information
systems and research projects; assist with proposal writing; work with
a team of information professionals, application programmers, and
technicians to design and implement information systems involving the
application of emerging technologies; and, develop strategies for the
maintenance and support of a large collection of electronic data
files.

Requirements: B.A. or equivalent. Five or more years of related
experience, including programming and systems analysis work, with at
least two years of technical project experience required. Advanced
degree in computer science, information science, or related field
desirable. Experience with Unix, C required. Experience with
object-oriented technology, CASE, relational and textual databases
desirable. Experience with setup and management of microcomputers and
local area networks (TCP/IP, Novell) required. Work experience in a
library or information center environment desirable. Excellent
interpersonal communications skills, including public presentations
and proposal writing required.

Applications are required by November 18, but will be accepted until
the position is filled. Please reference job number PT4311 and
address all correspondence to:

  Peter Schrempf
  Albert R. Mann Library
  Cornell University
  Ithaca, New York 14853-4301
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:00:39 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Library Automation--Comments & Questions

4 Messages, 57 Lines
1) DeskJet Printers--Response
2) Remote Access CD
3) Carlyle Voyager
4) InfoTrac Tapeleasing
Please respond directly to the authors, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana
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From:          <PEMMONS@WCU>
Subject:      Library Automation Questions

 If you need a high standard of printing at OPAC terminals, the Deskjet may
 well be for you.  I love mine, but would think that such quality
 would be overkill if you are considering it for all terminals rather
 than a few special ones.  Be sure to determine the cost per page before you
 decide.  It's rather high.  The only other disadvantage I have found is that
 the ink is highly water-soluble.  Just a little smear of moisture on the page
 turns it pretty ugly.  But if you are aware of these factors and decide to go
 for it, you probably will not be disappointed.

 Paul Emmons, West Chester University
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From:   wcslinda@ccs.carleton.ca (Linda Stillborn)
Subject: remote access-cd

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has looked at the
options for providing diall-in access to a cd-rom.  Is there a way to
do this withought having to provide people with personal copies of
pc-anywhere or similar? Also, what are some of the pitfalls.  Please
send your comments to me.
Linda Stilborn
Algonquin College
Ottawa, Ont. Canada
wcslinda@ccs.carleton.ca
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From:     <KOLTAY@BGSUOPIE>
Subject:  Carlyle Voyager

I would like to get in touch with anyone who might have any experience
with Carlyle's library systems, especially Voyager.  Please send an
e-mail to me at the following address:  KOLTAY@OPIE.BGSU.EDU.
Thanks,

Zsuzsa Koltay
Bowling Green State University
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From:         Karen Vaughan <KSV100F@ODUVM>
Subject:      InfoTrac Tapeleasing

Forgive me if I've missed it, but as an occasional and fairly recent
pacs-l voyeur, I am not aware of any discussion on tapeleasing/loading
InfoTrac databases.  We have GEAC 8000 but are in the process of
upgrading (possibly/probably to another system); so I would like to
investigate the InfoTrac issue -- cost, performance, etc.  Any
information would be helpful.  Please respond directly to me.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:56:36 CDT
From:         "Mary A. Axford" <li40163@prism.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: internet access from a public library
              Nov 11, 92 9:41 am

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        Let me just put in a plug for the news.answers group on
USENET news.   There is a tremendous amount of information
that is published on this group, much of it pertaining to the
net.  For public access UNIX providers, look at the PDIAL
(public dial-up) list, which is published at least once a
month on news.answers.  Another valuable document on
news.answers is Jonathan Kamen's list of periodic postings,
which lists documents that are posted on a regular basis and
where they are posted.

Mary A. Axford
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:14:49 CDT
From:         MADEWELL@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: OPACs Containing Archival, Manuscript and Special Collections

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Vanderbilt University has a locally-created database of materials housed
in one of our special collections.  The W.T. Bandy Center for Baudelaire
Studies is located in our Central Library and is named for a former
Vanderbilt professor/scholar who dedicated much time and effort in the
collection of all types of materials by and about Charles Baudelaire,
the 19th Century French poet and critic.  The BAUD database is accessible
over the Internet.  Telnet to ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu and type "acorn" when
asked for username.  You must emulate a VT100 terminal type.  Type "stop"
when you've finished searching to disconnect your session.
_______________________________________________________________________________
/ Ramona Steffey Madewell              /               Bitnet:                /
/ Automation Project Librarian         /          MADEWELL@VUCTRVAX           /
/ Vanderbilt University                /              Internet:               /
/ Library Systems                      /    madewell@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu    /
/ 419 21st Avenue South                /       Phone: (615) 322-7125          /
/ Nashville, TN  37240                 /         Fax: (615) 343-0394          /
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:45:19 CDT
From:         "Bennett J. Price" <BJPRICE@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Internet access providers

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Can someone point to me an ftp site and file in which can be found a
comprehensive list of commercial and/or non-profit Internet service
providers, both dialup and leased line.  Thanks

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Bennett J. Price        bjprice@ucsfvm.bitnet    bjprice@ucsfvm.ucsf.edu
(510) 482-3390
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From: holly@csn.org (Dawn E. Bergacker)
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Subject: Re: Public Librarians
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:59:06 GMT
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I'd like to add my agreement with Joel Zucker's comment about
the diversity of clientele at public libraries.  I currently
am the "Manager of Technical Information" for a large corpora-
tion.  My previous job was "Circulation & Audiovisual Services
Librarian" for a medium-sized public library in a town of
20,000.  I found my reference work much more difficult at the
public library.

Why?  Because anyone can use a public library, and they ask
everything!  I never knew if the next person I helped would want
self-help books on schizophrenia, information on sustainable
agriculture, market research on the car stereo industry, a
recipe for play-doh, a children's story book about a fresh
water fish (not ocean fish), another mystery book just like this
one, or information about nitrogen-fixing bacteria.

Of course it depends on the individual public library, but
public librarians do ready reference, BI, legal questions,
medical questions, and in-depth on-going reference searches
on highly technical subjects.  Public librarians need to know
how to handle any question, or at the very least, they know
where to refer questions they cannot handle themselves.

The major employer in the town where I worked was a medical
clinic.  We had no academic library in town, and the closest
"research" library was at least an hours drive away.  Those
people expected the same kind of service they received at
major metropolitan public libraries, and large university
libraries.

I'll get back down from my soap box now.  I just thought that
someone needed to speak for all those busy public librarians
running around trying to figure out where in the world they can
find information on nitrogen-fixing bacteria in a timely yet
cost-effective manner (since the public library budget got cut
again, but people still demand service because "I paid my taxes
and I damn well expect the best library service available").

Dawn E. Bergacker (holly@csn.org)
Imperial Holly Corporation, Colorado Springs
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:44:07 CDT
From:         "(Smith Richard J)" <rjs4808@usl.edu>
Subject:      Update

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     Just an update on "Navigating the Internet:An Interactive
Workshop."  We are closing in on 4,000 persons from over 27
countries that have registered for the workshop.  Fortunately, this
time the registration has been automated by using a listserv that
will accept registrations and will be used to e-mail the workshop
instructions to the participants.

     As with the first workshop it is an eclectic group--teachers,
computer systems managers, Deans, company sales representatives,
programmers, secretaries, students, professors, school principals
and librarians are just a sampling of who is interested in learning
how to use the resources on the Internet.

     This time round, institutions are advertising the workshop to
department or colleges; thus, large gropus of individuals
representing institutions such as Indiana University, University of
Minnesota, and others are signing up.  In addition, it appears that
more Internet addresses with the .com ending have registered.  I
think this is both commercial companies that can use the
information, and individuals who have e-mail Internet access
through a commercial service.  I'll see how useful the workshop is
to that group since they may not have full Internet service
facilities (may not be able to telnet or ftp.)

     I'd also like to repeat how to automatically register to the
workshop in more detail.  Many new users are having trouble, and I
hope this might help.

To guarantee registration, send your registration to the
listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu.  Send an e-mail message without a
subject heading to:

 listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

In the body of the text say:

SUB NAVIGATE Firstname Lastname


Here is an example of how I would register:

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bss> mail listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject:

SUB NAVIGATE Richard Smith
.
bss>
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In the above example "SUB" is short for Subscribe.

"NAVIGATE" is the name I gave to the listserve in Buffalo for my
workshop.  The machine in Buffalo "listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo" may
contain hundreds of different names of listservs serving other
purposes.

Your name is needed for identification.

The workshop starts November 16, 1992.

Richard J. Smith
Dupree Library
University of Southwestern Louisiana
Lafayette, LA 70503
rs@usl.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:44:32 CDT
From:         "Indra M. David" <david@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Subject:      Re: Request from Bombay (CARL requieres user id)
              "PACS-L%UHUPVM1.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU" at Nov 6,
              92 04:57:53 pm

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  Yes, CARL Systems requires a contractual agreement for a gateway or a
  user ID and Password.  I have heard that there are a few open gateways
  (maybe just one or two) that allow anyone to get in, but I would assume
  that the intent of those institutions is not to provide service to all
  who knock at their doors!  It becomes an ethical issue, if such gateways
  are used by those who are not authorized to do so.
--
Indra M. David, Ph.D.                   INTERNET: david@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Associate Dean, Library                 BITNET:   david@oakland.bitnet
Oakland University                      Office:   313-370-2474
Rochester,  MI 48309-4401               FAX:      313-370-2458
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Subject: Draft NISO Thesaurus Standard
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:01:49 GMT
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PROPOSED NATIONAL STANDARD ON THE
CONSTRUCTION, FORMAT, AND MANAGEMENT OF
MONOLINGUAL THESAURI ISSUED


The national standard for the Thesaurus Construction, ANSI
Z39.19, has been revised and is now available for comment from
the National Information Standards Organization (NISO).  This
proposed revised standard is priced at $30.  It can be ordered
from:  NISO, P.O. Box 1056, Bethesda, MD  20827.

This standard provides guidelines for constructing monolingual
thesauri:  formulating the descriptors, establishing
relationships among terms, and effectively presenting the
information to users in print and on a screen.  The standard also
includes thesaurus maintenance procedures and recommended
features of thesaurus management systems.   The standard points
out both the advantages and disadvantages of various formats for
thesaurus structure and display and illustrates many of these
formats.

All interested persons are invited to participate in the review
of this revised standard.  The review period will end January 15,
1993.

The NISO standards Committee which developed this standard had
the following members:  Bella Hass Weinberg, Chair (Professor,
St. John's University); Ronald L. Buchnan, (NASA Scientific and
Technical Information Program); Lois Lyman, (Digital Equipment
Corporation); Toni Peterson, (Art and Architecture Thesaurus);
Caroline Reyes, (NewsBank/Readex); Peri Schulyer, (National
Library of Medicine); Hans H. Wellisch, (University of Maryland -
Emeritus).

The National Information Standards Organization is accredited by
the American National Standards Institute to develop voluntary
technical standards for the library, information sciences, and
publishing communities.  Fifty standards are now in print and
five standards are scheduled for publication in 1992.  NISO,
which celebrated its fiftieth anniversary in 1989, is supported
by 61 Voting Members including Digital Equipment Company, Mead
Data Central, The Boeing Company, VTLS, the American Society for
Information Science, Apple Computer, the National Library of
Medicine, and NIST.

For more information on NISO's programs and activities contact
the NISO office, 301-975-2814, or write:  NISO, P.O. Box 1056,
Bethesda, MD  20827; Internet: NISO@ENH.NIST.GOV.
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Subject: access vs. ownership, visions of the future document
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:40:19 GMT
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Here at Xavier University, we have a library taskforce charged with
developing a "vision of the future" document.  What we're trying to do is
develop a statement that will explain to faculty and administration what is
happening with information technologies and how the changes will affect
library operations, collections, and services.  We envision a document that
discusses issues such as the INTERNET, document delivery services, full
text data files, and so forth.  The document would also discuss possible
changes in budget and staff allocation.  We would share the statement with
faculty as a way to begin a campus-wide discussion on "the library of the
future."

Has anyone out there developed a similar document s/he would be willing to
share with us.  Please contact me at the address listed below.


           ____________________________________________
          |    Mark Cain (CAIN@XAVIER.BITNET)          |
          |    Information Technologies Librarian      |
          |    Xavier University Libraries             |
          |    3800 Victory Parkway                    |
          |    Cincinnati, OH   45207-5211             |
          |    PHONE: 513-745-4803/FAX: 513-745-1932   |
          |____________________________________________|

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:21:16 CDT
From:         "(Lezlie Shell)" <lshell@lobby.ti.com>
Subject:      Job Descriptions

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L. Thanks, Dana

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A lurker creeps out of the shadows...

Texas Instruments is about to purchase an automation system that will
link all TI libraries and give PAC access at the desktop of every
TIer.  Along with the package, we were funded to hire a Systems Librarian.
This is a new position within TI.  We could use some help in defining the
job duties.  If any of you could send me job descriptions/postings for
the position, it would be a big help.

When we finish the job description, the position will be posted to this
list.

my internet address is:  lshell@lobby.ti.com

phone number:  713-274-2981
fax number:    713-274-2994

Thanks,
Lezlie Shell
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:41:20 CDT
From:         Shirley Taylor <C550166@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: internet access from a public library
              9 Nov 1992 10:57:48 CDT from <JM20%SWT.DECNET@relay.the.net>

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There is an article, "Gaining Access to the Internet" in Sept 1992 ONLINE
journal.  It list a variety of places to get accounts for the Internet.
From: BHANSON@cbe.ab.ca (WILLIAM R. HANSON,
              WILLIAM ABERHART HIGH SCHOOL)
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Subject: Re: Questions on Cruise 2
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:41:05 GMT
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I mounted Cruise 2 on a PC workstation in our school library.  I had to
get a grade 12 student to fiddle around with the screen drivers so it would
work.  We had an SVGA monitor and it wanted an XVGA.  When will this
upgrading stop?   The compromise is that it runs in a box about 2/3 of the
screen size, but it is readable and certainly impressive.  Cruise 2 is a
very introductory tour, but I saw some stuff I didn't know about.

I use it to introduce students and teachers to the internet.  Three so far.
After a while they tire of the point and click, and want to really get it on.
Kroll's book is the best reference and all three converts are buying it.
Cruise 2 and Kroll are a powerful twosome.
Bill Hanson
Teacher-Librarian
William Aberhart High School
Calgary, Canada
BHanson@CBE.AB.CA
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