From: andrewb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bucknell)
Subject: Is sachz male or female ?
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:36:43 GMT

Well. Sachz seems to think this file is a 'classic'. But then sachz has 
a weird sense of humor. Judge for yourself. I am posting this at 
his request cause he seems to think you will all get a kick out of it.

Basically what happened here is I got suckered in to beliveing Mr Sachz
was a girl. I hope you all find it as amusing as sachz and freddie and
various others have :)


Btw.. Magen is me (the poster) and everyone else is who they are.

Magen 'Classic' Logs (two files combined):

file: magen.she

<Nicxjo> hodeho, mag :)
*** Action: sachz cant wait to show gold fm what he thinks about it RSN
<Melz> sachz: what u been smoking?
<Nicxjo> they were better on RRR, he says inevitably :)
<Magen> wow sachz you get fired up over minor things mate
<sachz> its called melz4chet-weed :)
<Freddie> magen: all the good shit music are the 60s and 70s (not disco thou) :)
<sachz> magen: wow. u get fired up over thinking ppl get fired up *ROFL!!!!!!!!*
<Melz> it might kill u then sachz :)
*** Action: Magen watches sachz get slapped in the head
<Nicxjo> gold fm never plays disco
*** Action: Freddie watches SAchz as Melz kills her
<sachz> melz, i put the weed after chets name, not urs :)
<Freddie> nic: know this song now? :-)
*** Action: sachz watches freddie as melz kills me.
<Nicxjo> in fact, very little 70s on gold fm
<Magen> hang on..
<Melz> sachz: and we just smoke cigarettes.... in cast amounts
<Magen> sachz is a she ??????
<Nicxjo> this is a rare exception, fred :)
<Melz> sachz: I said IT might kill u not I would :)
*** Action: sachz rofl's at magen.
<Nicxjo> and NO HENDRIX!
<Freddie> magen: yeah... didnt you know? :-)
<Magen> seriously ?
<Freddie> Hendrix rules
<sachz> magen. well, i aint another fucken spewbabe am I :)
<Nicxjo> fred: i think i'm in love :)
<Freddie> nic: with who? :-)
<Nicxjo> shouldn't fall for people over their musical tastes that often :)
*** Action: sachz wonders if these newbies know what we're talking about
<Magen> My god !
*Freddie* magen asking if your a girl... play along <Tue Jul  7 03:55>
<sachz> stop msg'ing magen, to find out ;)
<Nicxjo> You rang?
*** Action: Magen 's mouth falls open
-> *freddie* i thought so
*** Action: Magen is stunned
*** Action: sachz wonders when she and melz will go out next.
<Freddie> magen: why?
<Nicxjo> shut yer mouth, mag, t'flies'll fly in
<sachz> whats up budd.
<Magen> sachz is a girl ???
-> *melz* play along
<Melz> sachz: she who?
<Freddie> sachz is a girl... big deal
<Nicxjo> sachz is ascii :)
<sachz> big deal!
<Melz> oh u sachz :)
<Magen> wow..
<sachz> magen, sacha is a female name. didnt u know.
<Magen> I always thought sachz was a guy..
<Freddie> magen: nope
<sachz> i know it can be male or female or even ur dogs name, but heck.. 
 i know what i am.
<Magen> wow
<sachz> why did u ASSUME sachz was a guy
-> *freddie* i am loggig this!@
<sachz> wonders of irc.
<Magen> Cause you were loud and obnoxious.. just like a guy ;-)
<Melz> sachz: they assume ppl whose names end with a z r male for sone reason
<Magen> hahahahahahahahaha :)
*Freddie* tell me if he tries to chat you up... IE days again :-) <Tue Jul  7 03:57>
<sachz> magen, you mean YOU were loud and obnoxious!!
-> *freddie* bahaha. i'll send u the log.
<Melz> magen: that might be why ppl think vikz and I r male too then :)
<sachz> ....:)
<Nicxjo> i'm not saying ANYTHING at this juncture :)
> nico: wize move.
<Magen> I knew melz and vikz were female
-> *freddie* dont forget to set nico straight btw.
<Melz> how?
<Magen> I just knew.
<Freddie> magen: sachz is female.....
<sachz> <-- thought vikz was a GUY too.
*** Action: Magen shakes his head..
<sachz> i was glad to hear she was one of us.
<Magen> haha
<Magen> later guys !
-> *freddie* i am gonna piss my pants !!!
*** Magen has left channel #aussies
<Nicxjo> victoria college, fred?
<Melz> sachz: u shouldn't a been trying to sleaze on her then :)
<sachz> going so soon magen?
*** Action: sachz pisses '... pants..
<Freddie> nic: yep... or deakin uni now
<Nicxjo> ack.
<Nicxjo> hey joe
<sachz> sorry.
Channel    Nickname  S   User@Host (Name)
#aussies   Nicxjo    H   nsn@munagin.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas)
#aussies   Mark      G@  mark@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (!id Jennifer's Mark)
#aussies   sachz     G   shopov@magpie.cs.su.OZ.AU (DILLWRGAFAWT)
#aussies   Melz      H*@ Melz@win3.vut.edu.au (Sugar Mice with Licorice Tails)
#aussies   Freddie   H@  jasoncc@admin.viccol.edu.au (<---->)
#aussies   Bleve     G@  carl@munagin.ee.mu.OZ.AU (I'm too sexy for your hamster)
#aussies   Insomniak G   Sidewindr@atom.ansto.gov.au (The RAVER who never sleeps)
<Freddie> sachz: tsk tsk
-> *freddie* what now *ROFL!!!*
<Nicxjo> whatcha doing with that gun in your hand
*Freddie* *Magen* sachz is really a girl ? wow...  <Tue Jul  7 03:59>
<Nicxjo> going down to shoot my old lady
-> *freddie* poor magen. should we tell him or just wait.WAIT me thinks!! 
<Nicxjo> caught her messing round with another man
*** minnie.cs.su.oz.au : Tuesday July 7 1992 -- 04:00 EST
-> *freddie* keep talking to him and sending it to me ;)
*Freddie* definately wait :-) <Tue Jul  7 04:00>
<Nicxjo> stuff of tragedy, that song!
<Freddie> nic: yep
<Melz> yeah so is Bohemian Rhapsody
*Freddie* *Magen* I had no idea.. I had never done a finger or whois <Tue Jul  7 04:00>
<Freddie> shit... its pissing down here at Box Hill :-(
<Nicxjo> a very different style of tragedy, but yeah
-> *freddie* hehehee. finger doesnt show much. OH SHIT!! let me disable it.
<Nicxjo> not a drop here in Cheltenham...
<Nicxjo> lemme check
<Melz> freddie: it took 2 hours to reach u from here then
<Melz> here= Laverton
<Freddie> melz: where do you live?
<Nicxjo> nix
<Nicxjo> 4am
-> *freddie* i think its clean :)
<Nicxjo> when a man loves a woman
<Nicxjo> how... het :)
<Freddie> nic: hee hee its good shit
*Freddie* *Magen* I dunno.. I suppose her attitude was like a guys.. <Tue Jul  7 04:01>
<Nicxjo> not music to play while on #gblf :)
<Freddie> Nic: hee hee
<Nicxjo> barnsie ruined this song
<Nicxjo> barnsey and joe cocker:
<Nicxjo> everything they touch turns to shyte :(
*Freddie* -> *magen* you cant tell if someone is male of female by their behaviour <Tue Jul  7 04:03>
*Freddie* +dude.... trust me... ive known sachz for yrs on irc <Tue Jul  7 04:03>
*Freddie* *Magen* I am finding that out.. I believe you.. I am just amazed :)  <Tue Jul  7 04:03>
*** Magen has joined channel #aussies
<Magen> reya again !!
<Magen> *boing*
<Magen> is sachz still speaking to me ?
<Freddie> nic: Im just sick of all the other stations playing the same song over and over again... and its a nice change on gold
<Melz> magen: wassup with u tonight??? u got nothing better to do than join and part channels?
<Freddie> magen: re
<Nicxjo> mag: say "barnsey sux" for me
<Magen> Melz : well, I am talking on another
*** Action: sachz is here and there.
<Nicxjo> uh, fred... gold is pretty repetative too
<Magen> and when that person leaves, I come over here
<Nicxjo> and damn cheap
<Magen> to harass sachz and freddie
-> *freddie* now follows the "chat her up" sequence? :)
<Melz> sachz: u lie :) u r always here :)
-> *melz* DONT BLOW IT OK!! magen is CONVINCED i am female.
<Nicxjo> but it keeps repeating good shit :)
<sachz> no more stooges, magen? :)
*Melz* that did not mention your sex :)  I won't :) <Tue Jul  7 04:05>
*Freddie* -> *magen* so you gonna treat sachz differently now that you know hes a guy? <Tue Jul  7 04:05>
<Magen> Not now :)
<Magen> I am still in shock here !! hahahahahaha
<Magen> later !
*** Magen has left channel #aussies
<Nicxjo> ok man
<Nicxjo> i'm turning in too
<Nicxjo> oh fuck
<Nicxjo> billy joel
*Freddie* hes not believing it <Tue Jul  7 04:07>
-> *freddie* keh? a guy or a girl. u said guy
<Nicxjo> like, this is REAL rock and roll :)
*Freddie* and then I said girl <Tue Jul  7 04:07>
<Freddie> its still rock and roll to me
<Melz> what song?
<Freddie> whats the matter witht he car I drive...;
-> *freddie* think u fuk'd up. :-|
<Melz> cool :)
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*** dildo is now known as BlackSoap
<BlackSoap> Hi.
<Nicxjo> *shakes head* the michael jackson of the 70s :)
*Freddie* *Magen* I believe sachz is female  <Tue Jul  7 04:08>
*Freddie* *Magen* I think..  <Tue Jul  7 04:08>
<Nicxjo> right, i'm outta here
<Freddie> nic: ok... stay cool
<Nicxjo> nice to meet up with y'all
<Nicxjo> bye!
*** Signoff: Nicxjo (Leaving)
-> *freddie* tee-hee.
<Freddie> set me free why dont you babe... 
*Freddie* *Magen* have you ever met sachz ? <Tue Jul  7 04:10>
*Freddie* -> *magen* seen her photo   <Tue Jul  7 04:10>
*Freddie* *Magen* ok then now I believe.. <Tue Jul  7 04:10>
*Freddie* *Magen* Is she cute ?? *wink* hahaha :) <Tue Jul  7 04:10>
*Freddie* #ROLF# <Tue Jul  7 04:10>
*Freddie* got a giff of a female on coombs and rename it to yourself? <Tue Jul  7 04:11>
*Freddie* -> *magen* let me put it this way (and I did not say this)... I wouldnt say no to her #rolf# <Tue Jul  7 04:11>
-> *freddie* umm hang on.
*Freddie* its mostly up to you now <Tue Jul  7 04:12>
-> *freddie* umm. has he seen the coombs gifs yet? we got new ones in 2 days ago. i could set it up.
*** Magen has joined channel #aussies
*** Signoff: BlackSoap (BlackSoap)
*** Action: Magen looks at sachz and shakes his head
*** Magen has left channel #aussies
*** Action: Freddie laughs
*** Action: sachz looks at magen and shakes her head.
<Melz> hehehe :)
<sachz> eek!!!
*** Action: sachz grins.
<Freddie> sachz: plant a gif
<Melz> sachz: plant a gif of dani :)
<Freddie> sachz: yeah do it
*** Magen has joined channel #aussies
*Freddie* -> *magen* and if you ver tell sachz that I said she was cute... I'll kill ya <Tue Jul  7 04:14>
*** Action: Magen laughs at sachz
<Freddie> re magen
*** Magen has left channel #aussies
<Freddie> poor chap is in love
-> *freddie* ok. dcc him this!
<Melz> oh what fun we have at 4am... NOT
-> *freddie* keep him on the line.
<Melz> with himself???? :)
<sachz> HUSH!
*Freddie* send it to me <Tue Jul  7 04:15>
<sachz> dont make fun. use /smg pls.
<Freddie> nod
<Melz> my good firend sachz: use /msg might get u further :)
*Freddie* dcc the gif to me so that I can dcc it to him <Tue Jul  7 04:16>
-> *freddie* oh shit. hang on. it says RACHEL in the gif :(
-> *freddie* tell him u looking for it!
*Freddie* fark <Tue Jul  7 04:16>
<sachz> brb.
*** jha has joined channel #aussies
-> *freddie* ok. here's what we can do
*** jha has left channel #aussies
*Freddie* wot? <Tue Jul  7 04:19>
-> *freddie* i can rename either a pic of a "cat" and when he sees it he'll 
 realise its over :-) or o/w i have leanne.gif which i cant see much of.
-> *freddie* 3rd is to go to a babes-gif ftp site ...
-> *freddie* will he view it today and will we get a comment back b4 we leave 
 today.
<sachz> I said use /smg melz, not /msg :)
<Melz> huh?
*Freddie* jesus man... dont go for babes on ftp sites... we want some nerddy 
 looking babes not Elle Mcphersons :-) <Tue Jul  7 04:20>
*Freddie* I reckon Leanne gif... hes never met leanne b4 <Tue Jul  7 04:20>
-> *freddie* u want nerdie gifs? got lots of those from europe!!! *ROFL*
*Freddie* yeah... grap one of those... not princes thou *rolf* <Tue Jul 7 04:21>
-> *freddie* btw, the ones i've met in sydney are NOT nerdie.
*Freddie* ok ok... <Tue Jul  7 04:21>
-> *freddie* i would opt for leanne :-) she's cool, and he can chat her up in 
 RL later on *rofl*
*Freddie* yep.. go for it.. although I hope he hasnt seen it b4 :-/ <Tue Jul  7 04:21>
-> *freddie* are u sure he doesnt know who leanne is? got any way to find out?
-> *freddie* ok! on second thoughts, for security sakes, let me get a 
 XXXXXXXer with glases :) hang on.
*Freddie* he said he has never met her... I dont know if he has d/l the gif on 
 coombs thou :-/ <Tue Jul  7 04:22>
-> *freddie* oh fuk. no, not a XXXXXXXer, someone else in europe tho.
-> *freddie* i forgot i was logging this. i'll edit the last 3 lines :)
<Melz> well pplz I am outta here for some sleep I think... I am bored here :)
> melz, u are a wimp! stay for the fun.
<Melz> sachz: what fun?
-> *freddie* FOUND IT!! ok. gonna dcc in a min.
<sachz> melz, just sit tight.
<Melz> sachz: i am freezing to death and tired, u had better not be wasting 
 my time!
<Freddie> melz: going to bed b4 the sun rises... tsk tsk
-> *freddie* i'm not gonna name it sachz.gif cause i DONT want it to get out 
 - by mistake. :-)
*Freddie* you gonna put it on coombs? <Tue Jul  7 04:25>
<Melz> freddie: its a sin isn't it.... esp when I have only been out of bed 
 since 7pm
<sachz> melz, nick orf then. :-) go to bed. speak to u in the morning 
 [careful what 'e says]
*** Sent DCC SEND request to freddie
-> *freddie* dcc it
<Melz> arguing with chet tires me
*** DCC SEND connection to freddie established
*** DCC SEND/secret.gif to freddie completed
<Freddie> melz: slug :-q
*** Action: sachz bleahs.
<Melz> sachz: sure thing... remember if u talk to gorbs to keep ya hands off him
 :) hehehe :)  and to write me some mail :)
<Melz> hmmm... if only I could go have a smoke, then I would last awake for 
 another 20 hours... 
<sachz> melz. enuff with it. just go :)
<Freddie> shit
<Freddie> he logged off
<Melz> sachz: what tiem u be on in the morning??
-> *freddie* what?
*** Magen is cruz@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Could be Anyone!)
*** on channels: @#magen 
*** on irc via server munagin.ee.mu.OZ.AU ([mullian.ee.mu.oz.au] University of Melbourne, Aus)
<Melz> who>
<sachz> he is on still
<Freddie> ok
<sachz> mel. probably not till after dinner :)
<sachz> cmon fred. i gotta go to bed :)
<Melz> good.. that is the mornign I like :)
<Freddie> wot? hes off again
-> *freddie* can u keep the log that i miss as i go to bed
<sachz> i should go guys.
*** Signoff: Melz (sleep time, back at about 10:30pm tonight I guess... 
 depending on who calls me :))
*** Signoff by melz detected
Channel    Nickname  S   User@Host (Name)
#aussies   Mark      G@  mark@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (!id Jennifer's Mark)
#aussies   sachz     G   shopov@magpie.cs.su.OZ.AU (DILLWRGAFAWT)
#aussies   Freddie   H@  jasoncc@admin.viccol.edu.au (<---->)
#aussies   Bleve     G@  carl@munagin.ee.mu.OZ.AU (I'm too sexy for your hamster)
#aussies   Insomniak G   Sidewindr@atom.ansto.gov.au (The RAVER who never sleeps)
<sachz> fred, i just realised, bleve and insominak and mark are in here. 
 oh shit. they'll dob. *better not guys*
<sachz> fred. i gotta go!!!!
<Freddie> how the fuck do you start a log
*** minnie.cs.su.oz.au : Tuesday July 7 1992 -- 04:30 EST
<sachz>  /set logfile bleah
<sachz>  /set log on
<sachz> u sure u been on irc for 2+ years? :) *smirk*
<Freddie> hee hee
*Freddie* he said tomorrow... :-/ <Tue Jul  7 04:32>
<sachz> okay. i must go. later okay
<Freddie> night sachz
<Freddie> and dont dop guys
IRC Log ended *** Tue  Jul  7 04:33



file: magen.she2

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<Magen> heya all :)
<Magen> heya anyone ??
<Magen> hmm
<Magen> *grabs a handy cattle prod*
<Magen> *prods sachz*
<Magen> *bzzzzt*
*tulip* hmm how come you always have far away "aways" up? :) <Wed Jul  8 18:56>
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<lethal:#ozzies> Howdy, sachz?
<lethal:#ozzies> How do u do, Morkeleb?
<lethal:#ozzies> Sleeping as yet?
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*** munagin.ee.mu.OZ.AU : Wednesday July 8 1992 -- 19:00 +10:00
<titus> urro
<Andypoo> lo titus
<titus> how ya doing andy
<Andypoo> I'm cool, you going to the party?
<titus> i'm afraid not...
<titus> i am leaving for skiing that nite at 11:30pm
<titus> and i have to go to a 21st partee at 7pm
<Andypoo> lucky prick
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<titus> yeah.. i am lucky that i am going.. but i am also broke now that i am
<titus> hi darkstar
<Darkstar> hey..
<Darkstar>      
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<Magen> hola :)
<titus> hieeeeeeeee
<Magen> Buenos Dias
<Magen> hi titus
<titus> huh
<titus> wassup
<Magen> Someones awake !
<Magen> wow :)
<titus> sorta
<titus> yeah
*** Action: Magen puts a bomb under sachz
*** Action: Magen takes cover
<Magen> *kaboom*
*** Action: titus kicks sacha to wake him
*** Action: Magen watches sachz sail off
<titus> u mean fly off
<Magen> titus : is sachz a he ?
<titus> yes
<Magen> really ?
<titus> yes
<Magen> you sure
<titus> very "he" indeed ;)
<titus> of course i am sure.. known the bloke for about 3 yrs
<Magen> I am gonna kill freddie and sachz
<Magen> later
*** Magen has left channel #aussies
<titus> hmmm
<titus> did i let the cat out or sunfin
<titus> sumfin
<titus> u know anything abt this andy?
<titus> hmmm
<titus> anyone here?
<titus> blaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*Magen* you are a dead man <Wed Jul  8 19:14>
> titus!!! u let a BIG cat our of the bag!
> titus, argh!!! how could u!
*** Action: sachz awakes.
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*Magen* you son of a bitch. I am gonna kill freddie now <Wed Jul  8 19:18>
*Magen* and then I am gonna come to sydney and kill you :) <Wed Jul  8 19:18>
-> *magen* but freddie has seen pictures of me. did he send you a gif?
*Magen* no.. but he kept saying you were a female ! <Wed Jul  8 19:20>
-> *magen* u must have mis interpreted him.
*Magen* no ! he even told me you were *cute* <Wed Jul  8 19:20>
*Magen* hmmmm I see now <Wed Jul  8 19:21>
*Magen* you and freddie are an item huh ? <Wed Jul  8 19:21>
-> *magen* ofcourse. :)
-> *magen* like laurel and hardy :) [he be hardy]
*Magen* bastard :) you are lucky titus showed up <Wed Jul  8 19:22>
-> *magen* titus is a bastard! :) *rofl*
*** freddie: No such nickname
*Magen* gee I was about to fly to sydney and ask you out too !! hehehe <Wed Jul  8 19:25>
<titus> damn lag
*** titus has left channel #aussies



... and so till this day Magen continue to be reminded of this little caper.


[ Sacha Alexander Shopov, Bachelor of Science (Basser Computer Science).      ]
[ Senior Ugrad, Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, The University of Sydney. ]
[ Internet: shopov@ee.su.oz.au   UUCP: ..!uunet!munnari!ee.su.oz.au!shopov    ]
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Gee thanks sachz :)
(of course I knew all along he was a guy ;-)

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