HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:49:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.200054.1320@oracle.us.oracle.com> rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
|svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
|
|>Y'know, sometimes people like you really tick me off.  I am the DoD,
|>as are most of the people here.  We are under NO obligation to tell you
|>*anything*, let alone information for which we have made it very clear 
|>is not to be asked about here.
|
|This kind of an attitude can cut both ways.

What attitude?  Hey, we ignore Monkey Boy's demands, and you can ignore 
my flames.

Hey, maybe it *does* cut both ways...

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Being bored)         |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:06:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185702.20333@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <marcl.717864030@os-d>, marcl@os-d (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>>>>Harley?  Two strokes?   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!
>The Sprint was a 4-stroke single.  The Harley-Aermacci effort also
>produced air and water cooled 2-stroke twins for roadracing.  They
>were actually pretty good.

Good enough to win several 250cc roadracing world championships
with Walter Villa riding.

Both Villa and the bike wore orange and black.


Their four-carb 500-cc twin (I think) didn't work as well.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Glove recommendations
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 28 Sep 1992 01:01:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep27.192844.10517@javelin.sim.es.com>,
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) wrote:
> The Widder electric gloves are nothing short of wonderful on a cold day.
> It's a great feeling to have your fingers get too hot, and have to turn
> down the thermostat. :-)

How close are they to water-proof?  Do they take spray water-proofing
well, if they need it?


> -- 
> Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K Winter Storage
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 27 Sep 1992 17:42:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <869@zx11.UUCP>, steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually for New York,  a hefty coat of cosmoline on the engine
                                          ^^^^^^^^^
> to ward off the salt, some good wax on the paint, electric vest and
> gloves should do the trick.
> 

What is this wonderful stuff?

> Steve
> steve@zx11.cactus.org

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: Blue over blue pipes
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:16:27 GMT

In <djm.718315075@morpheus> djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie) writes:

>If the pipes are not supposed to blue, then you could be running lean.  If
>the plugs show white deposits, this is likely. Ride 10 miles, kill the engine 
>at 40 mph, coast to a halt, and inspect the plugs. If the engine is also
>burning oil, it will be difficult to see the white for the black oil.

>-- 
>--

>David Maconochie

  This reminds me of a group of friends of mine that set out one
moonless night on non-battery equiped Triumphs to do plug chops. Picture
three bikes coasting in pitch black absolute silence, each one afraid to
touch his brakes or to keep coasting. I laughed till I cried.
                                Jorg 
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From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Stealing bikes
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:13:56 GMT

>like the dikens to break the fork lock and hotwire the bike, with no
>luck whatsoever.  I am not a small guy, and I could not for the life
>of me break that fork lock.  And the wiring harness was buried well
>inside the bike.  I would think that a thief would be much more
>likely just to throw the bike into the back of a truck and be off.
>(I and one other fairly large guy once did exactly that with a
>
>|And finally, is locking a bike to something helpfull? (using one of
>|those locks that are make of individual strands rather that a chain)
>
>Well, locking the bike *to* something would prevent the "throw it in
>the truck" theives.  Carrying around enough tools to zap through a
>hefty Krypto-cable would be dubious at best.
>
Battery powered Makita 4" grinder with the right pad will cut through
it like butter. Makes noise, so if it is close to your window or house
you may be ok. Locking it to something will deter the causual (read punk)
thieves, but will not stop the pros.
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cheers to the new moto TV show!
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:28:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Oct05.152859.16436
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Oct3.034602.11160@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.comj writes:
>>>average show.
>>
>>one scene, Chris "I'm so full of myself I could burst" was shown welding
>>on an old Harley frame.  (I think it was a Harley - how many other
>
>
>        Warning:  Flame bait!  Flame bait!  Danger Will Robinson!
>
>	Actually, I don't think an authentic H-D hardtail frame would
>be entrusted to an actor with a torch.  The newest real hardtails are
>over forty years old.  A Paughco repop frame, OTOH...

On a second look at a tape of the show, they had a hardtail frame clamped
in a jig;  a chunk of thin steel plate was clamped to one of the rear wheel
stays with a spring welding clamp.  Chris was bouncing the torch flame
off the plate, with an appropriate shower of impressive-looking sparks.
I don't remember if he happened to bother with welding goggles....
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:42:57 GMT

>>HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET writes:
>>How far does the average Denizen commute?
 
The shortest distance between work and home is 18.6 miles, however, I
-- 
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 'taint been (Re: More gasohol) for a long time.
Summary: Wrong.
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:25:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct4.061612.2787@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

In article <1992Sep30.185202.9770@megatek.com>, randy@ninja.megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
 
(About the Vector - )

] some specs across the bottom, one of which is it's 0-60 time of 2.5 seconds.

I don't know where they got that number, but it's _way_ wrong.  When
Cage and Cager finally tested one, the number was more like 4.1
seconds.

The Vector is probably the only car to acheive cult (i.e. posters &
t-shirts) status before selling any.   The car took so long to develop
that, by the time the powertrain was ready, the original body wasn't
asthetically current.  It had grown ugly, and they had to redo the
body.

    Before the Porsche 959, the Vector was the only real space-age
technology-stuffed BIG chunk 'o money wondercar.  Since then, many
have come out (F40, NSX(less of the chunk o'$), XJ220, Cizeta).  Even
Bugatti is coming back with a V-12.  For that much money, I'd take the
(barely) street legal McLaren.  (About $1M). 

    Of course, If I had that much money, I'd never be in a state to
drive it!

                                                    Kevin
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Turnsignal conversions
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:35:10 GMT
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <Sep.29.19.33.17.1992.963@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.123834.21529@pica.army.mil>, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
>
>> Well, here in NJ (to the best of my knowledge) amber brakelights and
>> amber running lights are both verboten. 
>
>Nope.  Call the DOT (_Not_ the DoD) and ax 'em if you do not believe.
>Since most new streetbikes (if not all) use the front signals as
>running lights, that would be a silly law.  And we _know_ New Jersey
>is too busy making important laws like "No Runny Eggs, EVER" to make
>silly laws.  (Puking sounds not typed in).

	Let's not forget silly laws like making SuperSoakers illegal.
Fortunately, that one didn't pass.

	I believe that amber running lights facing REARWARD are
illegal, but amber running lights facing FORWARD are ok.  That's true
in almost every state of the union (commonwealths too).

-
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            1975 CB360T (needs a name)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:14:06 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <8eoEwg600WB91SQYtE@andrew.cmu.edu> ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:

>Howdy,
>daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>> Yeah right, You can say what you want, but there is no way in the world
>> that you can put that much engine on a bike and not have a fairley high
>> level of performance. I am not familier with HD's but I can't believe 
>> that a 1200+ cc engine on a 600+ pound bike is a good choice for a first
>> bike. 

>You're exactly right.  You're unfamiler with HD's.  An FZR400 puts out
>about the same power as a big twin, at about 2/3 the weight (along
>with quick steering, great brakes, full body work, etc).  Are you
>going to tell me that because the FZR400 is a 400 that its a better
>bike for starting out on than an HD?  Get real.

I never said that. I was discussing the intersection of motorcycles
and fashion. The topic was how a fashionable bike would get new riders
to start on what appears to be a difficult bike to handle. You of 
course made your own assumptions about the discussion. Other 
people decided to make it a discussion of how little power the HD 
engine actually delivers. 

I don't care about HD, I don't want a HD and I don't spend time thinking
about HD. But Even a blind man can see they are all the rage in the 
Yuppie fashion world.

>cu. inches != power (especially when talking about stock bikes).

Performance is relative, the thing that makes the HD dangerous is
the attraction as a fashion statement. You forgot to mention the 
weight and the size of the bike. A HD appears to weigh a lot 
, much more then a FZR400, which means greater stopping distance 
and more difficulty turning. People are not buying these bikes for
performance, they are buying them for fashion. Not getting the
training and riding heavy bikes, difficult to handle at high
speeds, and getting killed ( at least one guy did on sunday
night in Weymouth Ma.)


>Mark

>| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
>| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
>| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
>| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
>| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |

Dave
DoD 1085
From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:23:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <Stafford-011092164827@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>> 
>> <HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>> 
>>
>> How far does the average Denizen commute?
>> 
> 
> 	3 miles to work and 20 miles on the return.

That's funny, my commute is usually the opposite.  I try to extend my ride
there as long asI can to enjoy the cool of the morning and contemplate my
life's fortunes.  After work I head straight home for food, BEER, and a nap.

God, I live an exciting life!

Pooder - Rider of Gretchen ('86 K75) and Harvey ('72 CB500) - DoD #591
   "What Do *You* Care What Other People Think" -- Richard Feynman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alastair@Cadence.COM (Alastair Young)
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley [Bud] Bashing etc.
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep18.034800.16615@c3.PLA.CA.US> niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard) writes:
>In article <18l09uINN49i@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>In article 23163@sybase.sybase.com, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>>>
>>>I'd rather have Nothing than a Bud any day of the week...
>>
>>You're weird.
>
>Ed, I think it's a Zen thing.
>

More to the point, can you get "Draught Murphy's in a Can" in CA?

yrs

soon moving from damp'n'misty -> dry'n'sunny


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From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 13:18:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.055027.5555@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:
>
>A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
>purchase for around $2000.  I thought this was a pretty interesting
>question, and so I would like to know what you all think.  He is most
>interested in an '84 or newer sport bike.  I reccommended an FZ750,
>Interceptor 550, and a Ninja ZX900.  What would you have said?
>
>
>Nick 

'86 Yamaha Fazer 750 (sport)
'89 Ninja 600 (sport)
'90 Suzuki GS 500 (semi-sport)
'90 Kawasaki EX 500 (semi-sport)
'90 Radian 600 (street - allrounder)
'90 Nighthawk 750 (street - allrounder)

Suresh
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:28:33 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET wrote:
: 18 Responses, average of 23.1 miles.
: Many execuses for NOT commuting tho:
: 1) It's Raining
: 2) Roads are icy

Yep, these conditions will stop me from riding to work.

: 3) Too cold
: 4) Below 30 degrees (F)

Hah! Cold is *never* a reason not to ride (at least for me).

: 5) Its snowing

I rode in the snow once, that was enough.

: 6) Too short a distance
: 7) I have to take kids to daycare
  (Didn't we have some thread on bungees for this?)

These are not problems for me.

: 8) Have no bike

Well, we all know about Ed. 

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:16:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep28.135220.15885@javelin.sim.es.com>,
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) wrote:
> 
> 
> The other problem is that with a .22, the other guy might die laughing
> when you pull it out. And if you did shoot him, he'd probably get mad &
> hurt you.
> -- 

"Oh no!  Don't shoot Mongo.  You'll just make him angry."  :-)

> Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g


| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FJ/FJR/GTS
Summary: Misconceptions about Demise of FJ
Keywords: INFO
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:18:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct1.122037.3683@infonode.ingr.com>, kolbjc@infonode.ingr.com (Chris Kolb) writes:
> 
> The Nov. Motorcyclist is out and you FJ'rs should see what will be
> the next "FJ".
> 

In article <1992Sep30.171614.21472@osf.org>, jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>
>I rode an FJ last spring. It was as smooth as my K bike. 8-)
>
>Seriously, it was a *very* nice bike and I liked most everything about
>it (except the chain drive).  So why is Yamaha changing it so dramatically?

Yamaha has NOT announced the production end of the FJ1200.  According to
my local dealer, the GTS1000 will be imported into the USA as the GTS1000
and will NOT supersede the FJ1200.  The speculation I have seen in magazines
is that further development of the FJ1200 line will be limited to minor
changes.  Of course, that has been the case for years already, so it's
no big deal.  Besides, it ain't broke, so it doesn't need fixing.  :-)

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:06:52 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
	<1992Sep27.212403.2970@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>

Howdy,

c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij) writes:
> >'90 Kawasaki EX 500 (semi-sport)
> 
> An EX is not a semi-sport bike.  If I took the lowers off a ZX-11, would
> you call that semi-sport as well?
> 
> I suppose a YSR-50 is a sportbike because it has full fairings and you
> feel so close to the road when you're riding one :-).  That's because you
> ARE.

Um, actually, I would call both the ZX-11 and the EX-500
semi-sportbikes.  This is because they are comfortable, primarily, and
not sacrificing everything for performance (unlike a bike such as the
YSR-50).  This is not to say that they're bad bikes...

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Ducati 907ie vs. Honda VFR750
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:10:23

"robg" == Rob Griffiths <robg@Apple.COM> writes:

robg> I'm seeking the net.consensus (fat chance, huh?) on the major
robg> differences between these two bikes.  A friend is trying to make
robg> a choice between a used (slightly) 1992 Duc, and a new VFR.

VFR750				Ducati 907ie
made in japan			made in italy
looks like a squid bike		looks like a really cool squid bike
bike stolen for parts		bike stolen for entire bike
sounds like a Singer		sounds like a tugboat with open pipes
comes with cheap tools		tools?  what is tools?
valves mortals can adjust	valves that mortals can pathetically drool on
"What's 'VFR' mean?"		"What's a doosateye?  Izzat a jap bike?"


--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: source for jets for CVK Keihins?
Organization: NASA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:36:48 GMT

Does anyone know who sells jets for stock CVK carbs?  Specifically, I need
bigger pilot jets for my ZX-10, the ones in it are the bigest the dealer's
parts book shows, and I don't want to spring for a whole dynajet kit.

Cold weather and lean surge are approaching.  It almost went below 70
the other day!

Any help (on the jets) would be appreciated.

**********
Tom Gent  tom-gent@kssib.ksc.nasa.gov    84 Sabre   89 ZX-10  no DoD#  no .sig
All opinions expressed are also NASA's, why would I disclaim otherwise?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Glove recommendations
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:28:44 GMT

lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:

>One of the best purchases I have made was my Widder vest and gloves.
>I ride in Boston year round, and they come in VERY handy.

The Widder electric gloves are nothing short of wonderful on a cold day.
It's a great feeling to have your fingers get too hot, and have to turn
down the thermostat. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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