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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: BORLAND, TRIDENT, & COMPU-SERVE
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:29:48 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <7683@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:
>Borland-
>	I currently use Borland C++ version 3.1. It is, without a
>doubt the best C compiler written in the history of humanity.
>However it is definatly a dos application (which is fine for my
>current work). My question is:Does anyone know of any plans for an
>os/2 version and if anyone is familiar with borland, how expensive
>do you think the upgrade will be?

BC++ for OS/2 is in beta test now.  You can buy the beta compiler now
for about $800.  I think this is the price, contact Borland for
details.  They're keeping the price high to discourage all but serious
developers from buying into the beta program.  With this, you'll get a
free upgrade to the final compiler, when it's released.

I have no information about pricing for the release of BC++, but it
will be available.  Hopefully soon.  Based on the pricing for
ObjectVision 2.0, the OS/2 version would be about $100 more than the
Windows version with a cheap introductary price.  But this is pure
speculation. 

Borland can be contacted at 1-800-331-0877, ext. 1024

>Compu-Serve-
>	I'm considering joining compu-serve. I'v asked them to send
>me their rates and such to see if its still more expensive then sin.
>My question is:What is os/2 support like there? Does ibm have a
>forum to discuss os/2 and hand things out? Do other companies have
>them?

There is an IBM OS/2 forum.  I believe it's GO IBMOS2.  I'm not a
compuserve member, though, so I don't know what it's like there.  Many
companies have forums for their respective products.  Contact the
companies involved for details.

I think it's still more expensive than sin.  (And sin isn't that
cheap, these days!)


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From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Re: Has anyone run Gnu Calc?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:21:15 GMT

In article <30JUL92.14233975@edge1.pfc.mit.edu> horne@edge1.pfc.mit.edu writes:
>I've been told that Gnu Calc is "part of EMACS".  Will the OS2 port of EMACS support it?
>Has anybody tried it?  It looks Huge -- (manual about 2" thick) but potentially
>very useful.  (Please E-mail to me at Horne@alcvax.pfc.mit.edu.)

Yes, I have installed it and it works fine.

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Subject: Re: OS/2-The User's View
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:38:34 GMT

ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:

>ask a difference question than 'how do I take care of this.' What my
>original post was asking was:Are other people, in general, having
>problems with os/2 crashing on them? I want to gauge the general
>'success' rate with os/2 to see if my crash-a-day is because I have
>something wacked on my system or because thats just os/2. (Hell I
>used to think my crash-an-hour on windows was abnormal till I
>started talking with other windows users and realized it was par for
>the course). 
>				The Jester

---

The only time that I have crashes and other paranormal behaviour is
when I am mucking around installing new software or patches and don't
really know what I am doing!  For example, I have been tring to get
TCP/IP running with my weird ethernet adapter and that required about
a reboot every 10 minutes, and wiped my desktop at one point.
(fortunately I had bought and used the WPSbackup program).  In day to
day use, however, it is very stable and usable for me.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: Word 1.1 for OS/2 patch available?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:01:58 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>You can get a jump on the situation by obtaining the pmwordu.zoo fix,
>available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  And, while you're
>using your patched version of Word, call Microsoft and ask for the
>free update called Word 1.1b for OS/2 Presentation Manager.

Thanks. I was looking for an official patch because I have the one from
ftp-os2.  I was hoping that the official patch would fix some other
problems that I am having under 2.0.  These problems include:

1. Parts of my document becoming scrambled
2. Parts of my document mysteriously getting deleted
3. Fonts getting clipped. (ie. choose 11 point and you get to see about
   the bottom 5 pels of the 11 point font.

I'm usually working with documents around 15 pages in length.
______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Where's Borland?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:12:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Well, Objectvision 2.0 for OS/2 is out. I bought it yesterday.

It strikes me as a little slow, but then, I've never seen the Windows
version in operation.

Borland is having trouble with their Quattro for Windows (so much for
the value of C++ in managing large projects), so that probably
explains why the OS/2 version may be on hold.
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Floppy Backup, Re: 32bit Shareware backup program.
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:40:01 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:

>Ahem ... Diskettes are not 'relatively inexpensive' - esp. when you look
>at them relative to tape.  For example, the cheapest one can find DS/HD
>3-1/2" diskettes around here right now is about $1 per diskette.  Thats
>$1 for 1.44 Mb of storage space, or $.70/Mb.  QIC-40 tapes are running
>about $15, for 40 Mb of storage (uncompressed) or $.38/Mb.  QIC-24 tapes
>are $15 each for 60 Mb of storage (uncompressed), or $.25/Mb, and QIC-150
>are about $20 for 150 Mb of storage, or $.13/Mb.  At that rate, those
>floppies get darned expensive.  And they take a lot more space to store,
>also!


While the above data is correct, it neglects to include the cost of
the tape drive itself, which many people, myself included, would have
to buy to store anything on tape.  Floppy drives, on the other hand,
are standard equipment on every PC I've ever seen.  I think that is
the point others have been making in this thread.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1 in a DOS Session
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:59:52 GMT

In article <l73u8cINNev9@alnitak.usc.edu> wlee@alnitak.usc.edu (Wing Lee) writes:
>Does anyone know how I can run the DOS version of Borland C++ 3.1
>in OS/2.  I am not running the WINDOWS version of C++ because of
>lack of disk space (and because I am creating a DOS application).
>I can use the Borland IDE if I boot up DOS 5.0.  But when I try
>running it under OS/2, I get garbage on the screen and the application
>crashes.  I know the Borland IDE makes use of protected mode and 
>EMS and this is probably the reason why it does not
>work.  Does anybody know the settings I should use to configure my
>DOS session in OS/2 to run Borland C++ 3.1?

Yes.  Set DPMI_DOS_API to ENABLED in your DOS program object settings.

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From: RHS@garnet.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: What DOS/program settings to use CP Backup under OS/2?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:56:02 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: connor.berkeley.edu

CP Backup doesn't seem to want to quite work on my machine using the 
standard (for me) DOS settings. I just tried to 
restore some disks created on another machine, told it to choose 
directories, and it's just stuck there with the message "Reading directory 
information", and no disk activity at all. What's more, I can't close the 
window. I tried, but it won't go away.

One theory. I exclude the region D0000-D7FFF, to allow room for an EMS page 
frame. However, that memory is used by my SCSI controller (which is also my 
floppy controller - PS/2 model 90). Might that be relevant?

Also, how do you get rid of windows that don't want to go away?

Richard Stanton
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:03:44 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul25.011538.5133@midway.uchicago.edu>
  <29JUL199216185150@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>
  <1992Jul29.205100.23425@midway.uchicago.edu>

Robert Cringely's rumor is that IBM will charge for the upgrade.

Any comments?

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: WPSbkup works! But why did I need it?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:08:56 GMT


The "settings" function for my WPS stopped working! I was using Qwikswch
and somehow ended up with two Desktops so I deleted one. SUbsequently
I was unable to open the "settings" for the WPS. The only way I could
get it to work again was to replace the WPS using WPSbkup that I had
downloaded from Hobbes. I was quite relieved that this program worked!

I have found  that "settings" will not work on some folders before.
The only way I could get it to work was to replace the folder with a
new one! What's going on here?

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 < Columbus, Ohio 43210        |           FAX:    (614) 292-7151 >
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From: lclarke@zodiac.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: WP 5.1 & SVGA Drivers?
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:51:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Computing Services

When I use the super vga drivers, eg for 1024x256, the wp 5.1 letters
are too small to read. Is there a fix for this?

Using et4000 with 1 meg.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Stacker
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:36:35 GMT

In article <14lepsINNjhp@agate.berkeley.edu> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
> Does anyone know if OS/2 will work under Stacker, the on-the-
> fly-compression program?  If not, are there any such programs
> that OS/2 will work with?
> 
> David Shy
> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu 

Apparently, there will be an HPFS compatible OS/2 version by the end of the
year.......can you wait?
 
Steve


-- 
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  And the stars going round in 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  my head." R. L. S.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: Describe Demo Margin Woes
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 08:20:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <92208.232426U28661@uicvm.uic.edu> <U28661@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Why is it that drastic changes in the upper margin setting (as seen on
>the screen) appear only slight when printed?  FYI, my printer is an
>Epson LQ-510.

I presume you mean trying to reduce the upper magin to less than 0.5 inch

>
>Is this a bug (feature) in Describe, or OS/2?  I also use AmiPro 1.2 in
>seamless WIN-OS2, but at least my margins print to whatever setting I
>give.

Given a correct assumption above Neither of these it is the PRINTER. The
printer will not allow Less than a half inch margin at the top for some reason
Even setting the MArgin to zero and setting the paper as low as possible does
no good. 

>
>Also, does this problem go away with the full-blown version of Describe?

The problem is still there with the full version of Describe. I have the same 
printer and use Describe for all my word processing. Roll on the end of August
for the release of the new version so I get my free upgrade. 


Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Trident 256-colours-driver
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:18:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.080056.14612@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> HAFEN@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (HAFEN KLAUS) writes:
>I have downloaded t640-256.zoo from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu and tried to install
>it. First, I checked my Config.sys about IOPL=YES,and it was OK.
>Then I backed up my drivers, went to OS2-Full-Screen and typed SVGA ON.
>The SVGADATA.PMI was created in /OS2.
>Then I typed DDINSTAL and installed the driver t640c(640x480x256), about
>173 Kb.
>Everything worked fine, and after installation was complete, I rebooted
>my system.
>The OS2-Logo appeared on the screen, then teh screen got black, my HD-drive
>stopped, and in the left upper corner the cursor was blinking. I tried almost

You need the file tridfix.zoo, available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  That should solve your problem straight away.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu (C. R. Oldham)
Subject: Why do WPS windows take forever to close?
Keywords: wps windows close time forever
Organization: North Central Association, Commission on Schools
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:04:40 GMT

HELP!

I've been round and round with two different company's machines, three
different hard drives, and hours wasted to try to fix this problem.  I
hope someone has experienced the same type of thing.

I have a 486-33Mhz (Soyo motherboard, AMI bios), with a 200 Mb Conner
HD set up as one big partition.  OS/2 installed fine--like a champ--no
problems.  The system is quite stable.  BUT--whenever I open a WPS
window (like by double-clicking on the OS/2 system icon), it takes
between 20 seconds and 3 *minutes* to close it!

I've linked it somehow to the hard drive--I have an 80 Mb Maxtor with
OS/2 on it, and when I plug that drive into the machine I don't have
the problem.  Also, I have a 486-33 with AMI bios and a Maxtor 120Mb
HD at home and it doesn't have this problem.

Is it a patch I need?  Or do I need to repartition the HD into smaller
chunks?  That seems silly since HPFS was designed with big drives in
mind.

I also tried fiddling with the HPFS cache size.  I bumped it up to 1
meg and also tried 256K, and neither made a difference.

I was planning on moving to OS/2 as my development environment
at work, but this window-closing problem really makes that impossible.

Detailed configuration:

ACT 486-33
	Soyo 486-33Mhz motherboard
	16 Mb ram
	Logitech Mouseman
	200 MB Conner IDE HD
	3com 3c503 ethernet card
	2 serial/1 parallel/1 game/2 floppy multiple IO card
	Diamond Speedstar 24 vga board with 1Mb VRAM
	Tatung NI monitor

Thanks in advance!

Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | North Central Association, Commission on Schools
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:03:31 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <63078@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Robert Cringely's rumor is that IBM will charge for the upgrade.
>Any comments?

The semi-official line is that the "Service Pak" will cost a few
dollars if you call up IBM and ask for diskettes.  However, you will
also be able to download it electronically from BBSes (e.g. the IBM
NSC BBS, IBM OS/2 BBS), online services (e.g. CompuServe), and through
the Internet, at no cost other than connect time charges, if any.
Also, there will be no restriction on duplicating the Service Pak, so
you can get it from a friend, coworker, or someone else.

This policy is much like Apple's or WordPerfect's, I believe.

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From: rshelley@riscy.simplot.com (Robert Shelley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland Objectvision for OS/2 - Comments?
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:48:22 GMT
Organization: J. R. Simplot Co., Boise Id.

It allows you to make GUI for a Db.  In a point and shoot
manner and once you are used to doing it you can develope
some fairly involved routines quickly.  I used OV for
Windows and one of the downsides was that you could not
get a report out of it, just enter and retrieve screens.
I have OV for OS/2 and it appears that you can get a
rudimentary report out (PRINT SCREEN?) if you want to.
I just got it and have not had a chance to try it out.

Robert 		rshelley@riscy.simplot.com
From: whiles@nswc.navy.mil (William Scott Hiles x1568)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Berkeley Spice
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:33:05 GMT
Reply-To: whiles@nswc.navy.mil
Followup-To: whiles@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division

Has anyone heard if Berkeley will be porting SPICE to OS/2?  We can get the
software from anonymous ftp for PCs, Apollo, Sun, SGI, and most other platforms.

Scott Hiles
whiles@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: gjm@cray.com (Gordon Miller)
Subject: Re: OS/2-The User's View
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:28:51 CDT

In article <7735@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:
>I used to have lots of time to play around with my new programs.
>When I first got windows i moded that thing until no one, sometimes
>not even me, recognized it. But now I actually (gasp) work and don't
>have time to spend hours hacking through my programs (I'm too busy
>writting new ones). So when I got os/2 I didn't have time to mod,
>tweak, change, and kick the tires. I wanted to install it and start
>running, but no such luck. The question I have for everyone reading
>this post is:How much trouble have you had with os/2?

NONE.  I installed and ran all of the beta releases and the only "problems"
I had was running duel-boot and getting EA's messed up.  I have run HPFS
only since LA and the system has performed flawlessly.  I used Windows for
three years and have yet to get the system configured to the level where I
can do the same work as effortlessly and reliably as I can now with OS/2.
I run DOS, Windows, and OS/2 apps.  

My system:
  Zenith 486/25 EISA
  16 Mb RAM (initially 8)
  170 MB IDE HD
  Using 16" VGA (only because I cannot get TIGA drivers)
  HP IIP Laser printer


Actually, OS/2 has made working on my computer so much fun the real
problem I have is forcing myself to take brakes.


--Gordon Miller

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Subject: optimizing Turbo C++ 3.0
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:16:10 GMT

OK, its not Turbo C++ 3.1, but then I only paid $46 for it!

It seems to run just fine (with DPMI enabled of course) but the
information window reports the memory as split between extended 2.6Mb
and expanded 1Mb.  This sounds like I have things set up a little
weird.  If this is not normal, could someone please post their memory
settings they are using.

ALso, what's in the upgrade to Turbo C++ 3.1?  Is it a bug fix (gulp)
or more features. 


-- 
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Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: Keeper@world.std.com (Frank K Woolf)
Subject: Re: Terminal Emulator with HPFS support needed
Organization: Tippins Incorporated, Pittsburgh Pa.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:55:17 GMT

>  I need a communications program that will download YModem Batch
>and supports long filenames with multiple periods.  Is this
>possible under HPFS?  If so, does anyone know of a program 
>that will support such a transfer?

Try TE/2 out..it supports long file names with no problems...

Frank
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell)
Subject: Emacs and Wildcards
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:02:14 MDT
Distribution: w


Just tried to use emacs from the command-line by using the following:

	emacs *  (gives me a file in the buffer called *)
	emacs *.doc (gives me a file in the buffer called *.doc)

emacs should recognize wild-cards? Yes/No??  Works with my dos copy of Jove
and emacs...what gives?

-Bob-

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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:36:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <62745@cup.portal.com>

As a followup some fiddling with Borland help screen did the trick:

I deleted WNHELP.EXE (think that's the name) in the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\
and replaced it with the same file from the Borland 3.1 package.

I haven't noticed any side effects from doing this.

Since it works, I gave up fiddling, but it COULD be because in the
AUTOEXEC, the path statement has ...\WINOS2\ before \BORLANDC\BIN\
(where the newer/different help .exe resides.

Perhaps changing the order would help.

As I said, the newer help program works with all the other apps I
threw at it, including Excel 4.0, W4W 2.0, MathCad, and, of course,
Borland C++

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: rambo!es9100@texbell.sbc.com (Eric Smith 5-0990)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Setting path and other environment variables in a DOS window
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:40:21 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell Telephone Company


  How do I set a DOS session (in this instance, one that runs my BBS) so
that the path and other environment variables are set automatically for
me..?  

I realize that I could execute a batch file that setup what I need and then
runs the application (WWIV BBS) that I want, but there must be a more
"proper" way..

	Please respond via email.