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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:54:53 -0500 
From: Carl B Jabido <cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mac.vs.486

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.advocacy: 23-Nov-92 Mac.vs.486 by
thomas loomis@halcyon.co 
> Anyone out there know where I can get some articles comparing the
> performances of Macs to Intel based machines? I am particularly
> interested in Mac vs. 486 based ones, but ANY will do, since it
> is easy to extrapolate the performance of faster Intel machines 
> from slower ones (since there are numerous up-and-down-the-line
> Intel benchmarks published, and likewise numerous uadtl Mac ones).

Well, the most dramatic (and Pro-PC) one can be found in Byte Mag, Nov
92.  In it, they search for the best Workstation.  The Mac wins out
because of overall ease of use, but since you're only interested in
benchmarks, I think the most significant one would be the Autocad
benchmark: The RS/6000 rated at 1.0.  Next, with a ~0.88 was the
HP/Apollo 9000.  Surprisingly, next, with a ~0.87 was a Compaq Deskpro
50M, above the Silicon Graphics Iris Indigo, Sun Sparcstation2 GX,
DECstation 5000/120, and last (and least, with a rating of ~0.35) was an
Apple Mac Quadra 950.  Right next to it, was the benchmark for
Framemaker.  Here, the RS/6000 led with a ~0.85, and the Mac came second
with a ~0.7.  The PC made a respectable, but distant, third place, with
~0.375.  (I say respectable because Framemaker had the handicap of
running under Windows 3.1 UGH!)  Of course, the PC ran above all the
other "real" workstations.

Surprising results I know.  But I do consider Byte to be one of the
"better" benchmarkers out there, so I generally believe them.

Carl Jabido
cj00@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: NeXT OS, TOO SLOW TO $#@#$, etc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:29:45 GMT
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In <1992Nov14.154739.6113@cuug.ab.ca> wilcoxt@cuug.ab.ca (Terrance Wilcox 260-8100) writes:

>Then who's working on WriteNow 3.0 on the NeXT? Gremlins? It's 
>not NeXT and it's not Steve Jobs. Who does that leave?

Let's see.  Could it be the people who bought it from Steve Jobs?
The people who are marketing under whatever terms Jobs wrote into
the sales contract?

No?  Hm.  Well, you're right, then.  Must be gremlins.
From: putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: specifically comparing NeXT with Mac...
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:27:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <BxtnF3.HpD@javelin.sim.es.com> mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson) writes:
>I suppose that if I said "a Yugo is inferior to a Ford Probe." you'd claim
>that this was only an opinion and was equally valid to its converse. 

I think you have a great point here Mark! Look at it this way:

PC User to a Mac User: Well, my Yugo is just as good as your Ford Probe. I
paid less than half the price per horsepower the engine puts out! Furthermore,
I have the option of putting in flip-down rear seats! I get to
put in the stereo I want myself - and save lots of money doing it!
Well, I had to figure out electrical stuff a bit, but I saved lots
of money! AND I can add a turbo-charger myself - and after learning
how to do it, I have paid less than you! It breaks alot, isn't
very reliable, and is plain ugly, but I paid less money! Oh gee!
I feel so happy for myself!

| David M. A. Putzolu               | putzolu@cs.ucdavis.edu               |
| Senior, CS & Psych, U.C. Davis    | op disclaimer(opinion : ptr mine)    |
| "Put your hand on the TV screen and repeat after me: I do hereby promise |
| only to watch the Ren & Stimpy show,  to make underleg noises during the |
| good scenes,  to wear unwashed lederhosen  every single day  of the rest |
| of my life! That's it! You are in our secret club!"                      |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton)
Subject: Re: Macintosh advocacy (really!) SCROLL BARS
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:32:17 CST

In article <1992Nov17.202640.3774@news.Hawaii.Edu>
guiyu@spectra.eng.hawaii.edu (The Big Color Wolf) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Nov12.225848.114240@watson.ibm.com> arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick) writes:
>
>4th     I orignally saw this nifty-feature on a HP-PARC 730 workstation and
>        like it very much(very helpful). Later, the Quadra came out and they
>        were in the WorkStation class but yet have no such feature built-into
>        the OS. I was slightly disappointed, since NeXT has it.
>
 
 
Well, I really, *really* don't want in the middle of this, but there is a
precedence for "real-time" scroll bars on the mac. Just look at the Color
Dialog. As you scrool the windows up and down, the colors change in "real-
time". This is built in. It just so happens that mac programmers have
chosen not to support it...
 
>Anyway, I admit I am too meticulous on this, but personally, I will think twice
>buying the Quadra(assuming I have the cash) just for the lack of this feature.
>However, if I were to buy the MacIIsi, I won't mind because I perceive it to be
>a sub-workstation class machine that's not supposed(able) to have _real-time_
>scroll-bars, but I do envy those Windows 3.1 or OS/2 users for having at least
>in the file-open dialog box and desktop windows the ability to scroll in
>_real-time_.
>                                                        Sincerely yours,
>                                                        Julian CHANG
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Eaton                    | Opinions? We're not allowed to have
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                              | in 2 years when I graduate... ;)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: e: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:15:53 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton) writes:
>In <1992Nov11.225745.16818@cs.wisc.edu>, rcmolden@parmesan.cs.wisc.edu (Robertc. Moldenhauer) writes:
>> Where d I get the prgram to copy the roms directly from a Mac instead of having
>> to stick them into Emplant first?
>>
>You can call our BBS and download a program called ROMINFO.  It is a real
>MAC program, so downloading using a MAC is the easiest way to get it to
>the MAC.
> 
>Real smart ain't he? :)
>Well I've had a good laugh over this one. Ill leave you Amiga folk
>to your emulators.
> 

My smart friend, think about it.  If you have the ROM already (ie, you
are already emulating a Mac), why would you need to download ROMINFO??

a Chicken and Egg question, isnt it??  

BTW, your posting is really funny. ;)

>PS: If you guys want to impress us with how good you computers are,
>try to avoid telling us how many other machines it can emulate. After
>all, if Amigas are so great, they shouldn't *have* to emulate other
>machines!  ;)
> 

Ouch! that hurts... 

I couldn't figure that out before... now I do.   That's why we have
softPC/AT (window) version for the Mac... just so we can run the almight
MS-windows on the Macs.  So, according to your theory, the Macs are inferior
to 286 clones running MS-windows.  Cool... took me a little while to figure
out.  thanks for explaining. :)

>sorry about the poor typing. ;)

same here. ;)

BTW, True, no one has managed to get EMPLANT to emulate a color Mac.
Yet, if emulating a fully functional B/W is your concern, just go buy
Amax II+.  

Thanks for the laughs,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: jstc_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (j. collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Macintosh advocacy (really!)
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:30:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov23.204548.490@leland.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:

>Edward Crawford writes

>That's all very nice, and a great improvement over the likes of DOS,  
>which doesn't even let you do such minimal multitasking.  But can you  
>run a Mathematica job in the background while you're working in your  
>word processor?

Yes, and I have done it.

>Can you have your data base program executing a  
>search while you're using your spreadsheet?

Yes, and I have also done this.

>Can you compile a  
>program while reading mail and playing a game?

Um lets see, yes I think is the answer again.

>--
>-
>Stefano Pagiola
>Food Research Institute, Stanford University
>spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
>spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)

-justin m. collins <jstc_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: PostScript Costs (Was:  EGGPLANT, IMPLANT...)
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:37:23 GMT

Frank R. Dana Jr. writes
>|> But don't blame Apple.  Adobe gets a $500-1000 license fee 
>|> depending on what level of Postcript that a printer uses.
> 
> That's sick.
> 

All you people complaining about how expensive a NeXT is should  
ponder the fact that PostScript level 2 is bundled with the NeXT OS.   
Which is why NeXT is able to sell a 400dpi PostScript printer for  
$1230 (edu) vs $1900 (also edu) for the 300dpi Apple Laserwriter IIf.   
Moreover, since the PostScript is in the OS rather than the printer,  
upgrading the OS upgrades the printer (ie I actually bought a  
PostScript level 1 printer, way back when; when i got NeXTSTEP 3.0,  
my printer automagically became level 2).

So buying a Mac may seem cheaper (depending on which you buy), but  
then you'll still have to fork out the money if you want PostScript.   
The NeXT might be initially more expensive, but you don't have these  
added costs later.


--
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From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:17:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) says:

>putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu) writes:
>
>>How depressing this is. After a nice two week period during which the 
>>preemptive v. cooperative thing had finally died and reasonable
>>discussion was occurring again. I posted on a NeXT group and got
>>reasonable, adult responses. I thought, "hey, maybe computer people
>>are mature!"
>
>>And an Amiga person had to ruin it. How typical. It really seems
>     ^^^   
>>that Amiga users are the brats of the computer world. Or at least
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>the above quoted poster is.
>
>
>_one_ person ruined it, and you tried to generalise everybody?
>
>Come on, it is easy to insult people... let's calm down and _discuss_ OK?
>
>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin
>e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
>
DISCLAIMER: Those with an absolute complete LACK of humor should skip the
following lines as they are intended as a joke only, to reflect upon
people's conversations:

 Yea, JERKO! You should KNOW BETTER you COMPUTER BRAT! LET'S TALK MATURELY
DUMMY! WE'RE ALL MATURE PEOPLE! Gees, stupid ignorant PC users like to
flame Macintosh Zealots and idiotic Amiga users pop their brainless heads
in to praise a computer which is lower than a politician! SO THERE!

<BIGGEST GRIN OF THE ENTIRE PLANET> 

 Okay folks, seriously- JUST KIDDING. I think generalizations like
"Wouldn't you know it would take an Amiga user" are causing troubles. We've
all done it at one point or another, and a lot of the time we really don't
mean it, but well- this is USENET and things are ALWAYS out of context-
right? ;-)
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From: ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl (ekaftan)
Subject: What IBM stands for...
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:39:16 GMT


	HI advocates, I'm compiling a set of funny meanings for IBM.

Here goes what I've got:

IBM : 	Idiots Built Me
	Inferior But Markeatable
	It's Better Manually

I know you'll be able to help me with this cruzade.
Mail me what you can. 

Thank you.

Eduardo Kaftanski
ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl
ekaftan@ing.puc.cl

Usual disclaimer applies.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Subject: Re: What IBM stands for...
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:51:48


>>>>> "Eduardo" == ekaftan  (ekaftan@tolten.puc.cl)

Eduardo> HI advocates, I'm compiling a set of funny meanings for IBM.

Now, now, are you sure this is wise? Apple is in bed with IBM these
days, what with the PowerPC and Pink and whatnot.

Remember this one:

  Q: What will you get if you merge Apple with IBM
  A: IBM

/Lars
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Newton tech (was The future of Apple)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:26:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov14.160614.7018@cuug.ab.ca> wilcoxt@cuug.ab.ca (Terrance Wilcox 260-8100) writes:

>>             Classroom white board and hand-held PDAs

>              I have yet to see a school that could afford this.

I have yet to see a public school that spends as much money on 
computers as it does on sports and physical "education."  The
problem with education is not that school districts don't have
enough money; it's that they spend most of it on things other
than educating kids.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: dtiberio@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Emplant - Why it is not feasible as a workstation
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:16:35 GMT

In article <83769@ut-emx.uucp> ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd) writes:
>
>First and foremost, let me apologize for the rabidness of the previous
>posts about the Emplant.
>
>The Emplant is a great idea - if you are running a video lab and
>need the Video Toaster and advanced video and sound.

	The Amiga is a great idea if you need a Video Toaster. No one using a
Video toaster has any need for the Emplant unless they need to port stuff
to and from the Mac. The Video Toaster is a miracle upon itself.

>The Emplant as a WORKSTATION is a totally different bird.  To

	It is not a workstation, and whoever put the word workstation into
your mouth was not this particular Amiga SYSOP. He never uses dirty words
like 'workstation' unless he is talking about UNIX based machines, not
Macintosh emulators.

>my knowledge, it does not have any TCP/IP, token ring, 
>LocalTalk, or SLIP software so that precludes using it as
>a workstation for high-end use.

	Do you understand what it means to emulate something? 

	It means that you will be able to use software written for another 
operating system. It means that SLIP software will work with it. It means
that hardware will work with it. It is ow like Liken which only runs
Microsoft Word (until recently).

>Amiga's sw base is too small to find the items you need to
>care and feed a workstation.  The NeXT can use all unix

	SHAZAAAAMM! I just came up with an idea...how about increasing
your software base by making a program that runs programs that run on
other computers? Maybe that would mean that you would suddenly have a larger
software base!

>stuff.  The Mac and PC have excellent sw bases.  (I am
>not knocking the NeXT's sw base either, 600 MB freebies
>are not bad with a system release :-).
>
>IMHO, I just do not see C= making a dent in the places
>where a workstation is needed.  If I do, I will be
>surprised.

	You seem to want to talk about workstations, and I seem to have been
talking about desktop systems...

>PS:  When you post, make sense and do not talk gibberish.  This
>     goes to the Amiga sysop who was flopping out about the
>     Emplant.

	You are the one who is talking about something I never gibbered
about...I was talking about a Mac emulator for the Amiga that has a great
price, not CBM's new SuperWorkstation.



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From: cshort@nmsu.edu (MetaPope, Internet in a Day Tour.)
Subject: Re: Emplant - Why it is not feasible as a workstation
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:11:29 GMT


1> it doesn't work.

2> see 1.


this is your amiga.
this is your amiga on emplant. 
<guru guru guru guru guru guru>
any questions?


c. (amiga user who thinks jdrew has taken a lot of people for a ride)
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From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Amiga Emplant outrunning an Alpha?  NOT!
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@dopey.cc.utexas.edu

I hope I am not wasting bandwith with this, so I apologize in
advance.

I posted an item about how the Amiga will not be a workstation until
it has some decent networking software.  I got some e-mail from an
Amiga user saying that The Emplant is twice as fast as a DEC
Alpha machine.  I am not posting anything
more, because I am not sure if it is a copyright violation to post
E-mail that is privately sent to you.

Please, when advocating a machine, stick to the facts.  The only
way an Amiga would outrun an Alpha machine is if the Alpha machine
is turned off.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick)
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:27:25 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <6363.2b10f6f9@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.065041.27730@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, dtiberio@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov14.013439.153540@watson.ibm.com> arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick) writes:
>>>Yes, graphics cards.  Does the Emplant + Amiga + 040 + (your choice) have
>>>NuBUS slots?  If it does not, all the video options open to real Mac users
>>>are closed.
>>      What VIDEO options? :) The Emplant board supports any Amiga graphics
>> board once you get the proper driver, and of course uses the native graphics
>> of the Amiga to display color ie VGA on an A4000.
>
>What about a second display? Like I have on my Macintosh IIx right here?

(Had to include that, cuz I was the original poster!) =>:-)>>

>Of course, in a Mac, I could choose to have a variety of monitors, from
>small black and white 12" displays to 22" 24-bit color displays. The Amiga
>doesn't offer the same range of displays.

Uh, that's small black and white 12" displays (not counting portables and
compact Mac's) to 46" 8-bit color displays.
And: accelerated or unaccelerated, portrait or landscape, one-page, two-
page, multi-syncing, 1,2,4,8,16, or 24 bit color, 1-8 bit greyscale,
el-cheapo to Sony Trinitron or Mitsubishi Diamond Displays.
No "Proper driver" needed.

When I Need Data Obliterated, Windows Satisfies
--------------------------------------------------------------
My views are my own; behaviorists can stick THAT up their ***!
Andrew R. Southwick
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: e: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:19:33 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton) writes:
> 
>PS: If you guys want to impress us with how good you computers are,
>try to avoid telling us how many other machines it can emulate. After
>all, if Amigas are so great, they shouldn't *have* to emulate other
>machines!  ;)
> 

oh... I forgot to add...

I didn't know my age-old Apple ][ can outperform a Mac LCII... or else
Apple wouldn't need to make a ][e emulator card for the LCII...

:)

Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Macintosh bigots
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 03:30:02 GMT

Daniel M Silevitch writes:
> What are the chances that Apple will allow the sale of Mac clones
> without suing the makers? 
> 
About as good as the chances that Intel will allow the sale of 486  
and 586 clones without suing the makers.
--
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Performa 600
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:57:25 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Nov12.171906.221@menudo.uh.edu>, cosc184z@menudo.uh.edu (David Alten) writes:
> Actually, doesn't the Performa 600 have a 16 bit bus, where the vx has a
> true 32 bit one?  This should really slow down the Performa....

No, there's no difference in the bus width.

I believe there is a difference in the clock speed. I think the IIvx has
the accelerator card built-in, and the Performa 600 is a re-packaged IIvi.

If I'm wrong on the differences, the Performa 600 must be a IIvx complete.

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