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From: fdeming@cvbnet@prime.com (Frank Deming {x6088})
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: White Knight, Zoom V.42bis modem, and Telenet
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:35:17 GMT
Organization: Computervision, A Prime Computer Company, Bedford, MA, USA

A couple of questions:

1. Does anyone have a 800 number for Telenet technical assistance.
2. I have several local Telenet numbers. I have been able to get in on their 1200
   line but not their 2400 baud. On the 1200 number I have used the following
   AT commands that the Zoom modem understands
    ATN0           // requires connection speed to be set in register S37
    ATS37=0        
    ATB1           // Select Bell 212a for 1200 bbs

    And with this I get on some of the time but not always.

    White Knight has not been much help with this. Trying to figure out the
    handshaking protocols has been rather difficult for a neophyte. The White
    Knight manual, while maybe alright to learn about the entire product, is
    horrible as a reference manual. It is difficult to find pertinent info on
    anything like the problem I am dealing with.

    Does anyone know the protocols for Telenet's 2400 lines. 

    What Does Class B refer to in regards to a 2400 line.

3.  A White Knight problem. When my modem does connect with the 1200 baud line,
    the requirement seems to be that I fairly quickly enter @CarriageReturn. I
    have tried to have a White Knight procedure to handle the entire login 
    process.

    ...
    ....
    White Knight Command to dial Telenet at 1200 baud
    IF NO END
    IF ERROR END
    PROMPT CONNECT
    PAUSE
    BYTEADD 64,A$		// PUSH INTEGER REP. OF @ IN VARIABLE A
    TYPE A$
    PAUSE
    TYPE ^M

    My problem here is that I get a "CONNECT 1200" message but the White Knight
    PROMPT command never picks it up. I have tried
    PROMPT CONNECT 1200
    PROMPT 1200
    but with no luck.

4.    Sometimes, after I receive the CONNECT 1200 message I will try to complete
    the tie-in by typing @Carriage-return myself. This seems to work about
    1/4 of the time. I would settle for handling this portion of the tie-in
    by hand if I could improve my odds

 Thank You
 Frank Deming(after mucking around on this problem for 4 hours)
 fdeming@aecmail.prime.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jcv26@cas.org (Jon Vander Hill)
Subject: Where can I find a spec for the (x,y,z)modem protocols?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:19:43 GMT

Jon Vander Hill
jon@cas.org
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Modem/CTB/StuffIt Help?
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:32:00 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology


  Also, does
> anybody know if StuffIt Deluxe 3.0 has been released yet?  I bought 2.0 a long
> time ago and I believe I was supposed to get a free upgrade, but I haven't
> heard anything from Aladdin.  I noticed there were some updates for Deluxe 3.0
> on Stanford though.  I pre-thank you 2,000 times for answering any of my
> questions.
>  
> bfoulk@vax1.umkc.edu

	Yes it has, but to date I don't know anyone who's actually gotten the 
upgrades Aladdin claims to be sending out.  I qualified for the "free" upgrade 
(Aladdin, like many other companies, can't handle the simple concept that free 
means you don't have to pay and is charging $5 for the "free" upgrade.) bu
several weeks after it was released when I still hadn't received even an 
upgrade noticeI called Aladdin and found that they had no record of my 
registration.  As suggested by them I Xeroxed the front page of my manual that 
contains my serial number and sent it in along with my $5 check for the "free" 
upgrade.  For good measure I also included a Xerox of my dated receipt from 
MacConnection for Stuffit Deluxe 2.0.  To date I haven't heard back from them.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for Microphone
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:03:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep5.111254.1@tesla.njit.edu> erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) writes:
>> 	I don't have any official date or anything, but...
>> 	Tool's done, manual's done, it's going with 4.0.2 as well.  We have 
>> to duplicate however many our installed base is and package everything up and 
>> let the post office do its thing.  I don't know how long all of that's going 
>> to take, but it shouldn't be too long, one would assume.
>>
>> 	Please note that the eventual situation is that the telnet tool
>> is part of MicroPhone Pro, but current MicroPhone II users get it as well
>> because we'd already promised it to then.  If you buy MicroPhone II in
>> a month, say, you wouldn't get the tool.
>
>	So what else can we expect in Microphone Pro?  
>
	My understanding (based on what they showed at MacWorld in Boston)
is that MPPro will be MPII 4.0.2, FAXStf, plus TCP/IP Tools (Telnet & FTP).
I would also assume a slew of new modules for LORAN (like for Unix Mail/News)
and also Dialoger Pro tools, however I have no specific info on these two - 
just a hunch.

>Is Microphone Pro going to be an upgrade to Microphone II like Filemaker 
>Pro was to Filemaker II?  Or are the two products going to be developed 
>concurrently like VersaTerm and VersaTerm Pro?  
>
	SVC has said that the current MPII will be reduced in price to $195,
with the new Pro package priced at $295.  Current users of MPII will be able to
upgrade to the Pro package, but I don't know if a price has been set.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: aboba@world.std.com (Bernard Aboba)
Subject: Re: MacX w/ a modem
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:30:40 GMT
Organization: MailCom
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: usa

In article <14835@borg.cs.unc.edu>, welchg@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Greg Welch)
wrote:
> 
> Can anyone give me information about using MacX w/ a modem?  Specifically I
> was wondering where I could find a "communications tool" that will work
> with MacX.  When I try to chose the host/tool to use a modem (for a remote
> command) "Apple Modem Tool" and "Serial Tool" are greyed out.  The manual
> says something lame like "some modem tools will not work w/ MacX."
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> P.S.  E-Mail would be great

What you need is SLIP and MacTCP. This will allow you to use MacX over a
modem. 

I recommend VersaTerm SLIP; it's the easiest to set up, although it's not
as flexible as MacSLIP. It runs $87 for the entire VersaTerm package,
which now includes a Telnet tool, SLIP, FTP client and server, and time
server.  The documentation on VersaTerm SLIP isn't as good as MacSLIP, but
then the software's easier to set up.

I've used both MacSLIP and VersaTerm SLIP; both support compression,
scripting. MacSLIP also supports bootp dynamic address assignment, while
VersaTerm SLIP does not. 

Of course you'll also need a SLIP host for this. Good luck! I used netcom;
cost is $20/month plus $2/hr. 

Bernard Aboba
Author of "Bulletin Boards and Beyond"
Internet: aboba@world.std.com          FidoNet: 1:161/445
MailCom, 5337 College Ave., Suite 326, Oakland, CA 94618
Fax: (510)540-1057
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lpeck@ryptyde.cts.com (Larry Peck)
Subject: Re: Z-Modem Difficulties
Organization: Ryptyde TimeSharing, San Diego, CA
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 06:33:13 GMT

xmpcwsh@dp7up.com (Bill Harris) writes:

>In article <1992Sep2.004957.21259@csus.edu> vpcsc11@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (student) writes:
>>My coworker and I are having a hard time using
>>Z-term to download a program from the Internet.
>>We are trying to use the zmodem protocol. 
>>At the unix prompt, we type: sz filename and 
>>press enter.  The "Z-modem receive" window
>>from Z-term pops on the screen for a few seconds, 
>>it is followed by a beep, and then it disappears.  We
>>have diddled with all of the zmodem parameters that
>>we can access in zterm, but to no avail.

>Are you dialing into a terminal server?  If so, have you set the binary
>flag so that 8 bit characters are passed through unmolested?  That's what
>it sounds like.  Also, check and see if your using flow-control.

Have you specified a receive folder yet?  :)
Larry
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From: perrins@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MacTCP crashing with FastPath KIP server
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:03:27 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

I have a mysterious problem with tcp/ip connections using a FastPath4 as a kip
server and protocol converter. 

Any software using tcp/ip (eg MacIP and Telnet) is liable to crash quite often,
and very messily (bomb id=12 + a freeze up - this message has nothing to do
with any sw actually running and looks like an unscheduled jump into an error
handler somewhere) if:: macTCP configured for Server ip address and Ethertalk
selected. If I change to manual addressing and Ethernet all is well. The
software is MacTCP 1.1 and KStar 8.0


I'd really like a solution to this as our teaching classroom network of 40+
macs really needs dynamic ip addressing of some sort since machines are all
booted from a cloned startup disk. So far our suppliers have failed to shed any
light.

Related problem:- the 'dynamic' option for addressing appears not to work. I
note that the Eudora documentation refers to this as 'Apples idea of a joke'
I tried it once - all appears well until you discover that the 'who's there'
operation seems to crash anyone else on the net with an address in the dynbamic
range (leaving you happily working away unaware of the resultant mayhem). 
Anyone know anything more about this?

Robin McCleery :: perrins@vax.oxford.uk.ac
From: Rob.Dewhirst@macrocosm.omahug.org (Rob Dewhirst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: Tabby/MacFidonet
Date: 05 Sep 92 13:05:44 CST
Reply-To: rob.dewhirst@macrocosm.omahug.org
Organization: The MacRocosm BBS, Lawrence, KS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm


Glen Stewart writes in a message to All on 28 Aug 92:

 GS> I understood that MacWoof 1.5 had ZedZap 
 GS> built in, and was in fact a better mailer than Tabby in that 
 GS> sense. 

Nope.  It does not do ZedZap yet. 

Better mailer than Tabby? Hmm... Kinda an apples and oranges comparison.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Where is Stanford U's "telnet" SU-ip program?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:48:33 GMT

I've been trying to locate SU's program.  Where is it available
via FTP?  

Thanks..Ken Lam
	
replies by email preferred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: Mac Kermit Settings
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:19:33 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6DB78009D023109@via.dsf5.merit.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:22:40 GMT

In article <8943@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil> Scott Phillips,
scottp@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil writes:
>A Mac Kermit user wishes to dial into an IBM4381 and use Profs for
E-Mail.
>However, Profs menus require function key input and the user has no
function
>keys.
>
>Is there a settings file which allow Kermit to handle this situation?

Yes--in all MacKermit versions above .9 you can define keyboard macros to
act as the function keys. Here's the relevant portion of the
documentation:

1.12.1. Defining Key Macros

To  define  a new key macro, select the Key Macros entry.  A dialog
window will
appear, asking you to press the key to define.  Type the key (including
any  of
 the  modifiers).   A new dialog will appear, with an editable text field
in
it.  Enter the definition for the key here.   Your  definition  may  be 
up  to
 255 characters long, and can include all of the control characters
(including
NUL).  Special characters can be included in the macro by entering a "\" 
(backslash), followed  by  up  to  3 octal (base 8) digits for the value
(just
like in the C programming language).  For example, an ASCII NUL (value 0)
would
be written as "\000",  carriage  return  (ASCII 13) would be written
"\015" (1
x 8 + 5 = 13). Also, control characters may be entered with a backslash,
followed by  a  caret (or  circumflex,  "^"), followed by the
corresponding
letter.  Thus a Control-G (value 7) could be entered as "\007", "\^G", or
"\^g".  To  include  a  literal backslash in a definition, type in two of
them:
"\\".

BREAK  conditions  are  also  programmable  as macros.  If the entire
macro the
string is "\break", then typing the defined key will send a short (1/4 
second)
break.    A  long (3.5 second) BREAK is defined with "\longbreak".  Note
that a
macro can define either a BREAK, or a string  of  normal  characters, 
but  not
both.

So all you have to do is find out the precise characters sent by the
control keys used by PROFS--I think that's the same as the 3270 function
set. You'll have to do some research, but setting things up shouldn't be
hard. Of course,  a commercial macro program like QuicKeys would be even
easier to use...

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: delsef@leland.Stanford.EDU (Frederick Delse)
Subject: I need help with rz!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:26:21 GMT

I'm using a mac connected to a Practical Peripherals 9600SA to call
into a unix server at Stanford U.  I've been trying to send a binary
file from my mac to the server using rz.  Obviously, it hasn't been
working.  The following happens:  my mac starts streaming data after
the transfer has begun, but after getting partway through the transfer
<usually at about 7 or 8 k, but somtimes earlier> the server sends a
ZRPOS back to about 2 or 3k, and my mac tries to continue from there.
The transfer goes on, but with much back-sliding because the server
repeatedly waits for several k to go by before signalling a bad packet.
[What I've described is best-case senario.  Without escaping ctrl
characters, the transfer doens't even get that far.]  I've tried just
about all the commandline switches rz offers.  <including -b>  Does
anyone have any ideas?  I suspect my shell is interfering somehow.
Maybe bad flow control??  help!  Thanks!   -Fred Delse


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:8834 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:4364 comp.sys.mac.programmer:15257 comp.sys.mac.misc:16280 comp.sys.mac.wanted:8259
From: noord@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (David Noor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Needed: Refrernces for programming MacTCP
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:38:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep09.233857.15170
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

I am *trying* to design a program for the Macintosh which will end up
using MacTCP. I need help, because the Inside Macintosh books do not have
anything about MacTCP in them. So can anyone out there tell me where to
maybe ftp, or some other way to get programming information for MacTCP?
I know about the APDA MacTCP developers kit, but the CS dept. wont loan it out
to students and i dont have $600+ free in my account or anything :).

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated...

I would prefer E-Mail responses, not replys on news...
mail to either:

noord@prism.cs.orst.edu
or
noord@ucs.orst.edu

ive posted this to way too many newsgroups to check all of em so it would be
best if people could email me.... :)

Thanx again...                  -noord
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for MacTerminal 3.0
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:28:30 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep12.120100.21769@lth.se> sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m)
writes:
>Can this tool be be purchased separately or do I have to buy
>another emulator. In any case where from?

You can get TCPack, a very good telnet tool, from:

Advanced Software Concepts
9551, route de Saint Laurent du Var
F-06610 La Gaude
FRANCE

phone: (33) 93 24 76 00
fax:   (33) 93 24 76 06

AppleLink: ADV.SOFT

I understand that a new version of this tool is available, but I haven't gotten
an upgrade notice yet.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rwalsh@byron.u.washington.edu (Richard Walsh)
Subject: Re: Power Port experiences?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:26:44 GMT

Does anyone know of an inexpensive or free e-mail system that would work
on an appletalk network. I teach at a Junior High that is starting to
build a network and would like to experiment with e-mail for faculty and
students. Send any information to rwalsh@byron.u.washington.edu
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Ethernet Address on Quadra 900
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:23:06 GMT
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)

n049ge@tamuts.tamu.edu (George Lengel) writes:
: In article <1992Sep11.065736.25840@etek.chalmers.se> janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto) writes:
: >
: >Open the MacTCP control panel. Click on the icon of the built-in ethernet while
: >pressing the option key. The ethernet address should appear below the name of
: >the icon.
: 
: 	I am running a Quadra 700 with the same problem. This did not 
: work for me. We are running system 7.0.1 if that makes any difference.

This only works in MacTCP 1.1. Make sure you have the latest version, you'll
need it if you're running with virtual memory.

/Mats
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Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
From: pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Subject: TheNews 2.2!!
Summary: Mac Netnews Reader Update
Reply-To: pharmacy@epx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:23:14 GMT

No sooner do I ask whether there will be an update, when I find one.  So far it
seems to work great, and my thanks go out to Bill Cramer for the great work
he's done.

Here's to hoping that my server doesn't go south anymore. :)

By the way, it's up on sumex for those who are looking for it.

Patrick Parker
From: ar@garnet.berkeley.edu (Tony Roybal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Where to find scripting Eudora
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 5 Sep 1992 06:22:34 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tmfpc34.berkeley.edu

In article <HENRY.92Sep4233836@tuba.geo.ucalgary.ca>, henry@geo.ucalgary.ca
(Henry Bland) wrote:
> 
> There's a version of Eudora that supports scripting using a language
> called C- that was mentioned here a long time ago.  Cab anyone tell
> me where can I get this version?

It is at ftpserver.sfu.ca, in /pub/mac/eudora.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: stkarlid@linda.lidac.liu.se (Stefan Karlsson)
Subject: FaxSTF File-format (Q)
Summary: What file-format does FaxSTF use?
Keywords: fax,faxstf,stf
Organization: Computer Service Centre, University of Linkoping
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:39:31 GMT

Hi,

Is there anyone that knows what file-format FaxSTF use?
(outgoing and incoming faxes)


Any help are appreciated.

  /Stefan


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wdburns@mtu.edu (WILLIAM D. BURNS)
Subject: Eudora SFU *almost* does it right...help?
Organization: CCLI Macintosh Lab, Michigan Tech University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:48:52 GMT

Fellow Eudora-users,

I have a problem that I can't seem to fix:

I've got Eudora 1.3a34 SFU configured and running but there are a few           "glitches" I have - hoping that someone else figured this about before
and might be willing to help me out.

Problem 1: I can send mail to my SMTP server with no problem EXCEPT when
there is an attachment...then the server dumps the line while Eudora
says "Converting attachment ..."  It does this within 15 seconds or so!
Yes, I can leave the terminal unattended in any other program so the
cause is not a watchdog timer on the serial lines on the server...
If I paste the same hqx file in a letter it works...

Problem 2: I can't RECEIVE any mail..at all!  I watch the progress box
and it says it's telnetting to the right port and server, but then it
quits like there wasn't any mail!  but I know there is!  IF I have mail
in the queue to send, it correctly begins sending it though...is
there a STR# to modify to make it look for a different prompt from the
POP server?

I have Eudora 1.3b34 running in a lab with MacTCP...they are both calling
the same server...

I am at a loss...must be something simple, then! :)

Thanks for any help/suggestions you may have...

Bill Burns
Senior Mac Technical Consultant, CCLI Lab - MTU
Apple Student Rep, MTU

-- 
Bill Burns

  [ Internet: wdburns@mtu.edu ]
  [ AppleLink: SHADOW         ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo)
Subject: MacLayers probs
Followup-To: poster
Summary: AGAIN : ^(
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:40:03 GMT

Thanks to everyone who send me mail on my previous problem.  The only reason I
insist on putting my aliases in my .login is that I once edited my .cshrc
wrong and that wrecked everything next time I logged in, but that is off the
subject.

My problem now is that emacs is behaving VERY poorly under MacLayers.  The
main thing it is doing, if I edit my .login, for example, it consistently chops
off the top lines file and I can't seem to get them back.  They're there when
I do a 'more' on the file, but they're just not there when I use emacs.  I've
tried setenv'ing and set'ting everything i can, but I can't figure it out.

It looks like this when I emacs .cshrc:
--------------------------------------
efault .cshrc for CNS #
##########################
set prompt = "csh"
set term = vt100
...


It should look like:
-------------------
##########################
# Default .cshrc for CNS #
##########################
set prompt = "csh"
set term = vt100
...


It also acts similarly when I use emacs as my 'elm' editor to reply to 
letters and so forth.

I like MacLAyers, but I keep hitting more problems *sigh*

Please e-mail and thanks in advance(again),
Eric
From: bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Wanted:  PB100/modem info
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:32:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

I have a Powerbook 100, and I need to get a modem for it.  I have some
(hopefully) easy questions for PB100 people out there:

	Which is better to get -- an internal or external modem (what
	are the trade-offs with internal vs. external)?

	I've heard about problems at high baud rates -- how high, and
	are the problems made worse with either an internal or external
	modem (or is it something inherent to the PB100)?

	Any suggestions on modem brands?  I want at least V.32, V.42,
	and V.42bis...


Thanks in advance,
Bryan


Bryan Hilterbrand      bryanh@stout.GVG.TEK.COM  |     /\  /\
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