From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Subject: Re: SCI posters club
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:32:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.151042.13828@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>Anyone notice that SCI is male dominated ? Do you wonder why women never bother
>to express themselves, here ? I for one, was thrilled to see some women 
>posting on "eve teasing".  A lot of my classmates and friends, who are women, 
>and have access to SCI never post.  I cannot fathom why. Maybe some of you with
>your infinite wisdom may try to badger a guess. 

My guess: The male/female ratio in the US for Indians. And as I had said before
refusal to get actively involved in anything saying "What good can it do anyway"

>Also, I wonder why some males,
>who are supportive of some of the issues raised by women, resort to mail, to
>indicate their support.

They are too afraid to say it in public.

>If, we the highly educated indians who have made it here and use this forum, 
>can force other indians in subtle ways, to keep out, what does it imply ?

All I can say is you ascribe motives to anyone who disagrees with you.

>I don't think we are ready to respect the views of our fellow human beings.
>We want to hear only what we want. We don't want nettors like Sylvia, breaking
>our rhythm, our style, our dominance. Get her out.

By the same token I can say the same thing about you too(that you don't want
to hear any other view which you  don't agree). So your argument that opposing 
views by some nettors amount to curbing your right to express is absurd.
 
>Thanks for some of the insights and unbiased views expressed by some of you.
>This was my feeble attempt to show you, that these were some of the prejudices,
>I faced by male counterparts in India itself. I am not a fighter. And, I 
>don't have the time or the energy to pursue some of the things I would like
>to get done for India, expecially, if at every step of the way, I have to
>battle and prove my intentions to these guys. I may have given up my dreams,
>but that does not mean that I do not love my country. As some of you wrongly
>jumped to that conclusion. 

You painted a picture of misery and injustice in India and said USA was better
in every way. And that you won't ever live in India. Now you say you love India.
Somewhere along the line there is a contradiction. Which is true and which is
false ?

>It is the small things that stop people with visions
>from getting things done.  I admire the people, who inspite of these roadblocks
>go ahead with their dreams. But, I wish we made things a little easier for them

Yeah they need more people to fight along with them. People like you don't
support their cause by refusing to fight along with them.

>Maybe this is a Goodbye to SCI. Another one bites the dust....and another one's
>gone. And, many more to go............

All through people get flamed for their views on patriotism/religion/economy/sex
/language/caste/race etc. But no one just withdraws just because they are 
flamed.

And here goes yetanother woman who gives up too fast when it comes to fighting
against the imbalance in the society.

>-- 
>Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                


Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar