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From: cs331333@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs331333)
Subject: questions about MIO's 80 columns, SIO2PC, z-modem, other misc.
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:29:42 GMT

Well, I posted my first article a few days ago and received some pleasant
responses.  Makes me happy to own an 8-bit atari again.  

Anyway, I have some questions for all you 8-bit atari gurus.

A) On the atari archive, there is a program called 'SIO2PC' which reportably
   will allow you to hook a cable/device from an 80?86's comm port to
   a atari serial port and emulate an atari disk drive.

   I think the author/designer's name was Nick Kennedy.  Does anyone know
   if he has an E-Mail address?  Does anyone know if he still puts together
   the devices?  Does anyone have one of these devices and have any comments
   to make about it?

B) Has anyone taken up the task of writing a z-modem driver for the 8-bit that
   uses the rs232 port?

C) I own an ICD M/IO device.  Supposedly there was a 80 column option for it.
   Any comment about this thing would be appreciated. ie. are they still
   selling them?  Is it possible to make one?  What kind of drivers/support
   is/was available for it?  Is it possible to have two monitors using it,
   ie: one to 80 column, one to 40 column gamebox, one to regular monitor
   output, or any combnation?

D) Can anyone think of a cheap way to allow an 80?86 detect whether the
   atari has crashed, and reboot it if it does?  I figure having the
   80?86 have a line to one of the joystick ports from a parrell printer
   port and toggle a status bit every minute/second or so, then have
   the same parrellel port on the 80?86 signal a device to shut down a
   regulated power supply should the atari quit responding (ie crash).

   A way to do this in combination with the sio2pc would be perfect.  Ie:
   It would be nice to have all of the atari-related functions be regulated
   by one comm port.  Any suggestions would be appreciated though.

E) has anyone had any experience with hooking two atari computers via
   the joystick ports?

I know that Nick Kennedy could probably help me emensely with both A) and E)
but I don't want to get involved in a length mail coorespondance plus
I'm a 'starving college student' as far as phone bills goes.  If Mr.
Kennedy has an E-mail address that would be perfect, or if some kind soul
would be so generous to foward mail to a BBS where he can be reached
and back again to me, I would be very happy.  Or if someone could
explain a method for transfering e-mail to bitnet, fido-net, compuserve,
etc if he's on one of those networks.. or even pc-pursuit (gag..).

Anyway, feel free to email me with any comments.  I always reply to it.

If I get any particularly juicy tidbits of info, I'll post them here.

	Thank you,
	David M. Steibel (cs331333@umbc5.umbc.edu)
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Toronto Show.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 17:40:52 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

--adam conover writes:--
> Amiga owner who had never seen an 800xl), "Hmmmm, ya' know..... That thing
> acts like it could be just an 8-bit Amiga."  Does that meen that the Atari ST
> is really a 16-bit C=64 ????? :-)   I wonder.........
> 

Hehheh..  Yeah.  It is probably because the Amiga was designed with help 
of a few Atari 8-bit designers.   Interesting that Tramiel went from c= 
to /|\ and Nolan Bushnell went from /|\ to (eventually) c= !! :)

__________________________________
PhBill: Bill Kendrick
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
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From: chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Help on Memory Upgrade
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:36:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


   I recently got a second 130xe and decided to try to upgrade the
memory on the first one.  I desoldered the upper 8 64k drams and replaced
them with sockets.  I then replaced the chips to check my work.  I
wrote a short program to test the memory and discovered a problem that
I could use help tracking down.

  Using BANKS = 4, SIZE = 256, BASE =16384, PAGES = 64
and addressing upper memory via.
  POKE 54017, 193+4*BANK
  loc = BASE+page*SIZE+byte)

And checking if POKE loc,0 and 255 => PEEK(loc) = 0 and 255
respectively I
find a problem with byte = 221 on most pages.

Specifically on BANKS 0, 2 only pages
0,1,8,16,17,24,25,32,33,40,48,49,56 check out ok.
On banks 1,3 all pages have this problem.

So the natural question is: Which chip / pin is in question?

Another thing?  I broke off C114 (accidently) which was only marked
something like 50V Z and 104.  I assume this means it is a 104pF (?)
Capacitor though it looked more like a diode.  I replaced with a
similar looking but slightly smaller capacitor from a  16K memory
board marked 50V Z and 102.  If I'm right there shouldn't be a
discernible difference since most of these components are only 5%
tolerance anyways but if I'm wrong and the 102 and 104 are part
numbers or something then I may have a problem.  If anyone knows
something about this please send me email or post to this group.  I
really could use the help.

One last question.  If I replace the 64k dram with a 256k dram without
doing anything to pin 1, will the atari "see" the 256k dram as a 64k
dram and work accordingly, or is it more complicated than that.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: Re: Transkey Wanted!
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:12:01 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3418]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu

In article <92105.145254AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu> <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   I want it...anyone have one they wish to depart with?  And
>those of you who have one...could you tell me what keyboards you know
>of that work with it...how about a Focus 5001?
>Andrew

You can get the info you need from Chuck Steinmen (DataQue) at
P.O. box 134
Ontario, OH.  44862.

Your basic Transkey runs about $70
TK24ROM Transkey 2.4 plug-in, chassis kb jack, ZRAM (W/ SRAM less $10)

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  Sherry L. Snyder L.P.N.                         Mike Todd - Publications.
  Tulane Dept. of Dermatology                    Tulane Dept. of Dermatology
  snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu                dt01mws@music.tcs.tulane.edu
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: bonk
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:12:27 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

>  I've never heard of "Bonk", and I thought I would never forget the names
> of the older 8-bit Atari games that were released in the good old days.
> 
>  How old is Bonk, and has it been released by an established software
> publisher?
> 
>  Anders Skelander


Anders Skelander...what a cool sounding name...

...anyway...I think BONK was published in some magazine like ANTIC or ANALOG or
something like that.  Ergo, it's PD I think.


--Dennis

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st
From: techno@lime.in-berlin.de (Techno)
Subject: Re: Hey All! New Atari Corp. Commercial! :)
Organization: LIME Systems featuring a TOGA Party
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 01:12:12 GMT

moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:

>I'm sick of this!

>I know that IMO = in my opinion
>I DON'T know what IMHO means
>or IHO...

>somebody?  Anybody??

In My Humble Opinion.

BTW, you should *really* get 'The New Hacker's Dictionary', edited by Eric
Raymond, The MIT Press, ISBN 0-262-68069-6. It was made from the newest
version of the Hacker Jargon File.

                                Techno

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From: SOEF_16@leicester.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Trak-Ball
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:20:09 GMT

It is possible to use a Trak-ball with Missile Command.  Simply type
control-T.

BTW it seems that the mouse from the Atari PC/ST is compatable with the
Trak-ball, since it works fine if substituted.

--
Steve
SOEF_16@le.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Random thoughts...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:36:28 GMT

In article <Apr.5.21.37.35.1992.16144@electron.rutgers.edu> chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase) writes:
>
>   For those of you who have a Macintosh, you may of heard of a

The article immediately preceding this one at my node was the one from a Game-
Boy owner.  So my chain of concentration went from GameBoy --> Macintrash

to the thought:

	"Get a Macintosh - so you can have a GameBoy on your desk!"

     (With an air of suitable contempt!)  ;^)

		--Michael

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From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Flaky drive!  HEEELP!
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32481
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


Ok, hardware gurus!  I have this 1050 with U. S. Doubler upgrade, and it has
worked fine for the last year.  Suddenly, the other day, it starts a very nasty
habit:  the lowest-order bit in the 64th byte of each sector is stuck low (upon
write only, not read)!  I reseated all external connections; no go.  Then I
opened the thing up and reseated all the internal friction-fit connections
(socketed chips and those little plug deals).  It started working; I chalked the
experience up to oxidization.  Then, the next day, it goes right back to
sticking the bit low!  Not only that, it starts intermittently doing the same
thing on the 21st or 33rd byte of each sector!!  HAAALLP!!!  What do I do now??
  __
 (_
 __)teve
(Thanking you in advance for your incredible wisdom and generosity)
(grovel, grovel)
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari Trak-Ball Programming Article
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:47:50 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <199204042303.AA14973@opus.calstatela.edu>, rkim@calstatela.edu ("Richard H.S. Kim") writes:
> Okay, here is the trakball programming essay from Atari Corp.  Alas, I had
> to retype it since the original was lost.  Also, my version of this is
> missing the BASIC listing of example #3: VBITBALL.BAS.  The assembly version
> of example #3 is present and working, so this should be no great misery.
> 
> Of course, if there is a great demand for the BASIC listing for example
> #3, I can generate it with BOFFO and re-submit the article.
> 
> Enough yak, the trakball article...
> 
> ____SNIP____SNIP____O/____________________________________________________
>                     O\
> 
>                        PROGRAMMING THE CX-22 TRACK BALL
>                                William Bartlett
>                                October 26, 1983
> 

     [Stuff deleted]

     BTW, this should also help you if you want to use a ST mouse with your
8-bit. (I've played missle command with a mouse, it sure makes the game
easier!!!)

Later.......

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From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: bonk
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:06:10 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Hey......      ever produce commercial software?  Or PD?! :)  Is Bonk 
still (c)?  What is it about??

__________________________________
PhBill: Bill Kendrick
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
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From: jprevost@visual.spk.wa.us (Jack Prevost)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: BART Mailer info
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:21:47 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market Public Access Site - Spokane, WA

>Can someone please send me detailed instructions on how to use the BART mailer
>for those of us who don't have ftp access?

For me information, send an email containing just the word "help" to
atari@atari.archive.umich.edu

That'll get it for you...
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover)
Subject: Re: percom drive
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:14:54 GMT


I don't think your Percom will take an IBM 360K drive.  It uses
bascially a half-height version of an 810 mechanism, which is
somewhat different from an IBM standard mech.  It also runs at
288 rpm vs. 300 on the IBM mech.  Yes, it IS a single-density
unit.  I don't know about upgrading it to double, as it would take
something besides the mechanism to do it.
 
Call information for the number of San Jose Computers, as I believe
I saw them selling the old 810 MPI (pushbutton-eject) mechanisms
for around $10.  I looked for the ad, but can't find it right now.
 
To my knowledge, Impossible Mission was never made for the 8-bit.
It's a shame, cause it was a good game on the Commodore 64.
 
ROb
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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 22:27:13 EDT
From: <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: RS232 on MIO bad?
 <1992Apr6.043111.4773@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>


In article <1992Apr6.043111.4773@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, molin@crs.cl.msu.edu
(Michael Olin) says:
>
>AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>
>>   I have recently acquired a used 1meg MIO and everything appears to
>>work except the RS232 connector.  Everything works perfect on my 850
>
>I had the same problem with my MIO.  Come to find out I had not turned
>the RS232 port on in the MIO config menu...  Look for port active/inactive
>if you haven't done so already.  If you have, then ignore this.
>
>           :)
>
>  -MOlin "Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windows"

  No, I did switch the mio config.  The light lights and all but nothing
works...no terminal program sends anything to the modem.
Hmmm guess Ill have to call ICD.
Andrew
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From: jprevost@visual.spk.wa.us (Jack Prevost)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hey All! New Atari Corp. Commercial! :)
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:12:56 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market Public Access Site - Spokane, WA

In article <PTsXiB14w164w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>I'm sick of this!

Tsk, tsk...  It's not all that hard to figure out.  Although I suppose
emoticons and contractions aren't as well documented up here as they are
down in BBS'dom...  (Well, I can't get down on you too much.  It took me
a year before I figured out BTW...  And I'd be willing to bet that not
very many people know ROFLASTC...)

>I know that IMO = in my opinion
>I DON'T know what IMHO means
>or IHO...
>

IMHO means "In My Humble Opinion".  I'm not sure about IHO.  (In His
Opinion?  Her?  Maybe just a typo...)
 
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From: cca10@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Craig Armstrong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hey All! New Atari Corp. Commercial! :)
Summary: -------------- ROFLASTC -----------
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:56:06 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From postnews Wed Apr 15 10:52:29 1992

> What pezacaly IS roflastc? (rolflastic! :) )
> 
> __________________________________
> PhBill: Bill Kendrick
> moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
> __________________________________

	I think it stands for ....

	Rolling On Floor Laughing And Scaring The Cat

	

	TCOYN .... (Take Care Of Yourself Now)


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From: omf@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: MIO, Ataptec 4000a, Tandon tm-503.
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:49:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: smaug.6APR92144946
Reply-To: omf@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <00958ADF17EF8140.20C02CCB@edinboro.edu>, a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover") writes...
>Hi, I have a question.   I have just recently acquired an MIO a
>Tandon TM-503 hard-drive, and an Adaptec 4000a controller.  I was
>wondering if anyone has had this configuration before and/or could tell
>me about the jumpers that need to be set.  On the Adaptec controller, there
>are two sets of jumpers labled:
> 
>                r
>           pu . . . s 
>                .
>                t
> 
>and:
>         . . . . . . . .
>         . . . . . . . .
>         p l n j h f d b 
> 
>I am curious as to what these are.  ALSO:  How do the jumpers need set
>on the Hard-drive.  
> 

Well, I just happen to have my handy-dandy ACB-4000 Series User Manual
(great technical manual on the 4000 series from Adaptec which I bought
in hopes of getting a hard drive for my 8bit which I've never been able
to afford...) in front of me...

Page 3-6 states:

JUMPER  DEFINITION                                       INSTALLED    REMOVED
A-B     LSB of Controller's SCSI Address                 bit = 1      bit = 0
C-D     Controller's SCSI Address                        bit = 1      bit = 0
E-F     MSB of Controller's SCSI Address                 bit = 1      bit = 0
G-H     DMA Transfer Rate                                SYSCLK/4     DATACLK/2
I-J     Extended Command Set                             Enabled      Disabled
K-L     Not Used
M-N     Support of Syquest 312, DMA 360 and drives that  Enabled      Disabled
        drop SEEK COMPLETE signal during head switch
O-P     Self Diagnostics                                 Enabled      Disabled
R-PU    Write Precompensation turned off for drives      Enabled      Disabled
R-S     Write Precomp starts at same cylinder as         Enabled      Disabled
        reduced write current for drives
R-T     Write Precomp is applied to all tracks           Enabled      Disabled


Hope this helps a bit.  Let me know if you'd like to anything else on the
4000A.  Cables and a power supply should be simple to get.  Try a
Computer Shopper for the power supply.


Oscar M. Fowler - omf@smaug.hacks.arizona.edu

PARMESAN CHEESE: Great on pasta, not great on eggs ...
From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: asking for a recap of info on the 825 printer
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:43:39 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

The 825 printer is a 40 column printer. Actually, if you have ever seen
the printer section to department store terminals from TRW (May Company,
some Nordstrom stores), it is the same thing. Not really recommended,
unless you printouts that are the same width as department store receipts.
Or unless you collect Atari stuff.
 
OOOPS! That is the 820 printer, sorry.
The 825 is the original Centronics parallel printer. Unless you have an
850, you can not use it with an 8 bit. It's a bit slow. And big, too.
Heck, if you can find an SMM801 printer (or the 8 bit XMM801) you'd be
better off. The 825 is an 80 column printer, by the way.
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From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: My last message.
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 18:31:10 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

AND ANOTHER THING! :) There is NO obligation!  All you'd be doing is

HELPING OUT THE REST OF US!?  HMM?  Come on!  Aren't you sick of 
newsletters yet!?

__________________________________
PhBill: Bill Kendrick
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
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From: dave@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Dave hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Bob Wooley's 80 columns
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:53:50 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB


Ryan 'Gozar' Collins wrote:

>Well I thought of a kludge way of doing it. Set up screen memory like this
>
>     0    ---------   39 40 ----------------- 79
>     Store columns 0-39       And then followup
>     in a 960 byte conti-     with the remaining
>     guous block              960 bytes
>
>     That way program that poke directly into memory will be in forty
>columns, but this way is a big kludge!!

Probably an easlier, simpler way (i.e. cheap) is to setup two displays, one
being 40 columns, the other 80 columns.  Whereas programs see the 40 column
display, we'll see 80 columns on screen.  Through some means (i.e. hardware
and/or software) the contents of 40 column screen is copied to either the
left, right, or middle of the 80 column screen.

- Dave


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;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: csmith@nmt.edu (Clay Smith)
Subject: Bobterm 1.20 troubles...
Summary: vt52 doesn't work!
Keywords: help!
Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:32:57 GMT

   Hi. I just got the newest available version of Bobterm from atari.archive
a couple days ago and I was very pleased to see that it had vt52 terminal
emulation instead of vidtex as v. 1.10 did. Except for one thing - it
doesn't seem to work for me. I have another vt52 emulator (VTERM) that
works just fine when I configure the other computer to do vt52, but when
I try the exact same configuration with Bobterm it chokes (i.e. the text
formatting on-screen is garbled, bad cursor positioning).
   I think Bobterm is great, but I can't really use it because of this
problem. Does anybody have any suggestions or similar problems? Is there
any way to get a hold of Bob Puff through the internet? I know about
BBS's that would do the trick, but I would rather not rack up long distance
phone bills (poor starving college student and all that...).
  
   Thanks very much for any assistance!

   Clay Smith
   csmith@titan.nmt.edu



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