From: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dream
Keywords: tangerine dream edgar froese jerome baumann schmoelling haslinger
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:56:58 GMT
Reply-To: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr8.182755.21101@cs.UAlberta.CA> pavel@cs.UAlberta.CA (Jachowicz Pavel G) writes:
>
>I am also one of the people very disappointed with the current Tangerine Dream
>musical trends.  Apparently the newest album (though I have not listened to
>it yet) has been recorded by Edgar and Jerome Froese.  Have they "kicked"
>Haslinger out of the "family" band?

Don't know if he was kicked out or if he left under his own steam. I believe
it was the latter. It is not totally a Froese Family outing (no surrealistic
Monica cover) as there are several guest musicians on several cuts. Lots more
guitars (note: on several cuts, the keys are handled _exclusively_ by Jerome,
while Edgar plays guitar).

Haslingers' solo album will be out late summer/early fall on Private Music.

>
>After Peter Baumann left in 1977, Tangerine Dream changed their style and
>released "Cyclone" as a foursome after their North American Tour "Encore".
>As far as I can remember, Steve Jollife and Klaus Krieger were the two 
>new band members.  
>
Correct. Give the man a cee-gar.
>
>Johannes Schmoelling's influence on the band was great and I think their
>BEST recordings were in the Froese, Franke, Schmoelling era - "Force Majeure"
>(1979), "Tangram" (1980), "Pergamon" (1980 - released in the West in 1986),
>"Exit" (1981),  and "Logos" (1982) are among the most interresting.
>"White Eagle" (1982), "Thief" (1981) can also perhaps be included in the
>above category. 

AGREED! But don't forget POLAND, IMHO, their best live album.

>
>My all time favourite Tangerine Dream record has to be "Tangram" (1980).
>Every time I listen to it, I am placed in a certain mood.  The music fluctuates
>between powerful synthesiser rhythms and subtle guitar-like sounds interwoven
>in between the everchanging tempo.
>
My all-time favorite is WHITE EAGLE, followed closely by FORCE. WE was what got
me back into electronic music after making a brief foray into punk/new wave.
>
>Since "Livemiles" (1988), I have not heard anything "moving" by them, which
>is very sad and disappointing.  "Lily on the Beach" and "Destination Berlin", 
>both released in 1989 were shocking.  I was actually convinced for a short
>moment, that perhaps this is not Tangerine Dream that's playing, but some
>TV commercial music...   "Melrose" (1990) was perhaps a tiny bit better - but
>just a tiny bit!
>
Well, again IMHO, ROCKOON is much better than MELROSE. But it ain't no WHITE
EAGLE. I'm afraid thatthe glory days of TD have come and gone (I hope I'm 
wrong!) Maybe the best thing that TD can do is to open up the tape archives
and let the live stuff roll! And throw in a soundtrack or two (Thank you,
Silva Screen & Mirimar!)

>If Edgar continues this trend, perhaps the days of Tangerine Dream, as we have
>known it for over 20 years are really gone forever.
>
I hope that we are both wrong!

Craig Shipley
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