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From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rain Gear for dogs and Volunteering at the Rescue League
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:02:36 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Before you start laughing or wondering if I am one of those dog owners
who just LOVES to dress her dog up, don;t believe a word of it!  *smile*

I am looking for a company who sells (IS there such a company?) rain
gear for dogs.  Specifically, I am looking for a raincoat and
boots that will really stay on but will be comfortable.  Min and I 
like to walk everyday, but sometimes if it is raining, it is not only
a real mess but i do not want her to catch cold.  If it is not raining 
too hard, I thought rain gear would help with that.

Any ideas or comments?  Legit ones please *laugh*

Oh, and i have an aoopintment tomorrow afternoon with our local 
rescue league here in town.  I am going to volunteer once a week
maybe more if I see that i cna help and if i can arrange my schedule.
They have a need of helping the animals be mor eadoptable by 
socializing and training some basic stuff such as sit and heel and the like.

I know a lot of you do this type of work, so any suggestions you have 
for me, I woudl love and appreciate.  You can email me or if yuou think
it will be beneficial to the others, feel free to send it here.

Thanks!

Suzanne
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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: TATOOING DOGS
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:30:54 GMT

 
I have a simple question about tatooing: How old does the dog have to
be before it could be tatooed?  Should you wait until they have
received their adult size (or close to it)?  It sorta makes sense, but
is it really nescassary?
 
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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: mini rescue story
Keywords: Spelling
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:27:49 GMT

A good friend of mine seems to have her own unofficial shelter.  She's always
wanted one dog.  Just one.  But she's always got three--the legal limit.  Her
all time favorite dog passed away recently and she explained to me how he
came into her life and started this whole shelter off. 

Her husband taught at the university a few miles from their home and would
bicycle to and from school.  They had their one dog and were quite happy.
One day a large black lab mix ran up to her husband while he was peddling
home.  Instead of bothering him, this pooch just ran along side, following
for the several miles home.  The dog hung around but in the morning was
gone.  The next day when the husband bicycled home, the dog caught up with
him and went home with him again.  This time they gave him some water because
he was panting from the heat.  In the morning he was still there.  Two days
later he was still right outside their door, and getting weaker.  They 
decided to feed him, put some ads up and took him to the vet--all in hopes
of finding his owner.  But, of course, by this time, the dog had showed
this couple, and their young sons how adorable, and affectionate he was.
He made it emminently clear that he was going to put every cell into being
their ideal dog.  At the vet's they were showing the vet the dog and telling
him how wonderful this dog was.  Neither vet claimed to know the dog's owner.
Another client in the waiting area, did recognize the dog as belonging to 
a neighbor.  My friend, said, "Oh, how wonderful.  We already have a dog. 
We'd like to return this one to its rightful owner.  It's such a nice dog,
I'm sure they're missing him terribly.  Can you tell me where they live?"

The client who recognized the dog, and who had already had a chance to see
my friend with this dog, replied, "Oh, I couldn't tell you that!  He treats
that poor dog terribly."  After a few details, which need not be included
here, my friend picked up her dog and left.  Fortunately she never had to
deal with the original owner answering any of the ads or flyers she posted.


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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:46:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Rain Gear for dogs and Volunteering at the Rescue League
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

I'd like to add a comment about working at a "kill" shelter.  I volunteer at
the Peninsula Humane Society, in San Mateo , CA.  This shelter is known for
having the best volunteer base nation-wide, and the atmosphere there is very
positive and loving.  We work in conjunction with the county "animal control"
which means strays get brought in to us.  Did you know that our shelter alone
takes in an average of 100 animals every single day?  And despite persistent
effort, they don't all get reclaimed.  (the 100 includes "surrenders" from
actual owners who don't want - or can't care for- their animal any more).

My point is that the animal overpopulation problem is staggering.  One shelter
in the Bay Area decided not to work with their county animal control anymore,
so they would become a "no kill" shelter.  It makes them look great from a 
PR point of view, but it puts additional burden on the other shelters because
we will not turn an animal away.  So people from that county drive to  our
county and our shelter and we end up euthanizing the animals that the other
shelter refuses.  The people who do the euthanizing are animal lovers and it
is extremely tough on them.  So it bothers me that shelters like ours that
euthanize have a bad connotation with the public, and shelters that don't 
come out like a rose.  To me, it seems they are ignoring the fundamental
problem that we have too many animals out there.  They are forcing others to
deal with that problem because they refuse to.  My last comment is that I find
the volunteer work extremely rewarding and hope you will, too.
---Diane

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From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Rescue Groups
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 11-06-92, MICHAEL GEORGE BUENING wrote to ALL:

MG> Do you want a compiled list of known dog rescue groups that would be
MG> made available to the general public in a format that I am not sure of
MG> yet?

YES!!

MG> It could be another FAQ that would be archived and available by
MG> anonymous FTP, or it could possibly be available via an archie or
MG> gopher server where the information could be indexed allowing a person
MG> to search for a specific breed and/or geographical region and only get
MG> the information they want as opposed to a whole list to sort through.

Outstanding!  Preferably via an archie server so it can be accessed as you
have described...

MG> If there is sufficient interest in compiling such information then I am
MG> volunteering my time to do so, obviously with the help of all of you
MG> with connections in such groups.

Thank you, thank you, thank you....  YEA!!

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Rescue Groups & FAQ
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:36:40 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<1992Nov4.200354.12253@u.washington.edu> <16896E819.ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU>
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
Keywords: rescue faq 

In article <16896E819.ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
(Judith Van Noate) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.200354.12253@u.washington.edu>
>diannes@stein.u.washington.edu (Dianne Schoenberg) writes:
>>I do think it would be useful to have a list of rescue groups on the net
>>somewhere--didn't somebody volunteer to do this a few days ago?
> 
>I would be interested in a rescue list--I've been involved on a small
>scale in rescue for 13 years--mostly me adopting and keeping dogs,

Judith & Diane & other rescue folks: Our good friend & technically-competent
netter Mike Buening (mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu) has VOLUNTEERED to prepare &
maintain a Breed Rescue FAQ. I don't want to "steal his thunder", but he has
promised, and I am sending all my breed rescue info to him by s-mail. Watch
this space for updates!

Marget Johnson

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From: gordon.needham@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gordon Needham) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: How to separate fight
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: gordon.needham@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gordon Needham) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

To: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
VN>Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

VN>I read once that a thumb up the anus of the attacker would stop the
VN>attack.  Something on the order of the testicle twisting that Dag mentioned.

(I can't help but comment)

Is that with rubber gloves or without ?

Is that the owner's anus or the dog's ?

Have a nice day  :-)

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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with Shepherds
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:13:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24177
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Stephen R. Lee writes:
>time.  A lot of them don't.  NONE of them work on ALL dogs ALL of the
>time, not even Kohler.  To say that Kohler, or any other method, is
>guaranteed to work on all dogs all of the time does a disservice to
>the intelligence and integrity of dogs in general, because it accepts
>the definition of dogs as units that can be programmed in exactly the
>same way as an axiom.

(I understand what you're saying, just quoting what I want to comment on)

No, I'm saying: training a dog to do thus-and-so is EASY;  Koehler is
one method of doing it.  Any dog.

There isn't a difficulty in training dogs, so I wanted to get beyond
the discussion of what you want to call ``tools'' that a method
supplies.

I want to say, what is unique about Koehler, and I want to say, is
missing from modern dog training expertise, is any idea of what
is glorious about a trained dog.  We have become ``experts'' on
manipulating the dog, and forgotten the magnificent ideas that
the breeders had.

What Koehler does, is insist on absolute obedience as glorious;
as a pointer works in absolute obedience when he points etc.

If I can get that distinction across, and even if I haven't convinced anybody
of it, then you can see that, going back to the training methods, some methods
are not consistent with the idea because they never show the dog what
absolute obedience is in the first place.

It has nothing to do with programming the dog; it has to do with whether
you show him a certain something.
Organization: Caae, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Wed,  4 Nov 1992 16:37:32 -0500 
From: "Sandra J. Harris" <sh4d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dalmations

DalmatiAns are not stupid.  I do not believe that any dogs are stupid. 
If anyone is stupid, the owners are.  The owners must be taught how to
handle and train their dogs.  

I have a dalmatian.  She is VERY smart---in fact, smarter than I was
when I first got her. She ran my life....on her terms.... Now I take her
to obedience and obstacle training classes-this is our third year at
about one class per week---I will go forever.  I am now as smart as my
dally; and I keep learning more and more about dogs and their abilities
and behavior each lesson.  

She loves to learn, socialize with other dogs and is a pro in the
obstacle course.  She loves to work for me.  It pleases her to please me.

Just remember---both of you must be consistent with training
philosophies--you both must control the dog on your terms--and you must
take yourselves to  training classes.....oh, yea....and take the dog
with you.  She/he will have a ball!!

Good luck!

Sandy
From: pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: beserk puppy
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:05:14 GMT
Organization: not much...

I think that I remember hearing stories of horses going pretty berserk when a
horsefly bites; anyone else heard similar stories?The first question I'd ask
is whether this is the first (only) time she's been bitten by a horsefly.  If
not, and if she didn't react badly other times, then suspect something else as
the cause.  If so, suspect the fly, but keep your eyes open.  

Dogs do appear to react pretty dramatically to some sorts of pain or
discomfort.  When Katie (black Standard Poodle) has eaten too many cotton
balls, and one gets stuck coming out the other end, she'll drag her butt on
the sidewalk -- which I would guess is pretty uncomfortable.  Our old dog
chewed up a big piece of plexiglas grid one day because he was lonely,
bloodying his mouth.  So they're capable of acting pretty bizarre.  Katie acts
like a lunatic sometimes without any provocation, racing around with her butt
skootched under, and she has a wide range of vocalizations ranging from a
normal bark to a falsetto that she sometimes uses when she's really excited.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 23:17:05 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Comment-To: MACKINNELL_AMANDA@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

  All dog lovers have experienced the dogs distroying something
valuable.  The very Best lesson as to the usefulness of crates.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Re: Rain Gear for dogs and Volunteering at the Rescue League
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:46:57 GMT


Suggestions for someone about to volunteer at their local shelter!  How
could I resist?  

My first suggestion is to find the right shelter for you, if you are 
fortunate enough to live in an area with more than one.  Many people will
find it unbearably depressing to volunteer at a kill shelter.  Think
about what you want to do, work with dogs? work with adoptions?  work
with puppies or rescued dogs?  Visit the shelters in your area to find
out which one feels right to you.

The first few visits may be depressing.  I wanted to take all 20 dogs 
home with me.  Just remember you're a part of the cure.  It doesn't stay
depressing, so work through the first few visits.

Don't try to change any of the policies on your first few visits.  Just
try to learn the system.  Ask questions.  Make a few friends.  Try to be
useful.  It's likely that most of the people you volunteer with will be
volunteers themselves with as large a variety of opions about the dogs
as we see on this network.  They're all interested in helping the dogs,
they just each have their own method.

Don't do anything you feel uncomfortable with.  In particular, don't
handle dogs you don't feel confident about.  Let someone with a little
more experience deal with the frightened/hostile dogs.  All dogs are
not alike.  They won't all sense that you're trying to help them.  
Mishandling on  your part could provoke an unnecessary incident which
could end up with the dog losing out--and you seriously hurt.

Enjoy yourself!  Play with the puppies, they need it.  Cuddle the lap dog.
Throw a ball for the retriever.  Talk to the shepherds.  Really enjoy
yourself.  The dogs will sense it.  The demeanor of the whole place changes.

It's very enjoyable to volunteer on a regular basis.  You work with the
same people that way.  If you haven't found a group of people you're 
comfortable with, switch days.  The most important thing for the animals
is to keep going back.  As the weeks tick by and you get to know
some of the dogs individually, it's really wonderful to come in and find
out who has found himself a home since you've been in last.  And there's
nothing like being there when a real dog loving family comes in, falls in
love with one of your dogs, and they leave one happy family.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:00:23 GMT

> Kenneth Sloan writes:
>
> In article <Bx761J.12D@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
> writes:
> >...
> > I justify my right to generate rubbish by paying taxes.  Dogs have no
> rights
> >other than to be left alone and if they were left alone, they would be
> gone
> >just like most wild life.... nevermind cancel that, it;s too early and I
> >really dislike domestic dogs and their impact on the environment.  If
> >people can not contain a pet on their own property, they have no right
> >to impinge on mine or public, property.
>
> Disclaimer: the above opinions have no basis in reality, and the logic
> would shame a third grader.  But...we have the makings of a completely
> new genre here - the "dog in the manger bitch, bitch, bitch".

I've been wondering this since the start of this thread...if you hate dogs so
much, what are you doing reading r.p.d? I reminds me of a dedication I saw
the other day:

        Dedicated to those who dissaprove,
        yet continue to watch.

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: New England and National Rescue Groups  FAQ
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:24:40 GMT
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Distribution: na
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

the list was posted by my husband.  please send any followups to me, since he
dosen't read this group.

i keep the official all-breed rescue list for yankee golden retriever rescue.
(and being the poor typist i am, it takes forever to capitalize things 
properly on it).  i am always glad to hear of any corrections or additions.
the list is printed once or twice a year in ygrr's quarterly newsletter.
anyone wanting help may call me at home and i'll see if i can help them find 
the breed they are looking for.(returning the calls, and computer maintenance,
are eric's part of the job.)

my list is set up to include only nationwide groups and those local to the
new england states(ME, MA, CN, RI, NH, VT), but i have access to some local
groups in other places, mostly those listed in my "project breed directory".
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From: rpearl@athena.mit.edu (Rachel A Pearl)
Subject: New Addition
Keywords: Pound Puppy, Jessye
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:53:19 GMT
Expires: Tue, 1 Dec 1992 05:00:00 GMT


Hey there, everyone. Just wanted to update you on the progress of the
new addition to my family - a 60 mo. old Shepard Mix named Jessica Ann
- Jessye to her friends. I've had her two days and I'm still very
nervous  about being able to care for her properly, probably too much
so.
 Her crate training is going along well and I've only had to stop her
mid-piss in the hallway to boogey her outside. I think she's beginning
to get the general idea but I have no idea how long it will take for
her to graduate out of the crate and be trusted to either hold it in
or let someone know it's time to go outside. Any advice is appreciated!

I have a feeling she was abandoned shortly before she made it over to
the
Boston Animal Rescue League since she is very needy and gets VERY
nerovus when we have to go outside or walk away from the house for
longer than 5 minutes. I think she has a fair amount of Collie in her
as well since here head is ver "Collie Like" in shape and thinness (or
Afghan Hound) and she whines and bards alot to get her point across. This
was concerning me this morning since all she was doing on the front
porch this orning was shining and barking and just trying to get
SOMETHING across thiugh I didn't know what. I finally decided she was
just playing around and nothing was wrong (thise days, the way I've
been so keyed up about her, every time she makes a sound I figure
something is wrong. Does anyone have an amazing talking dog like this
one?

Anyway, that's enough for now. Is it any wonder that I've been known
to go on about my cats for days?

Take Care
Rachel



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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: What books are good?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:43:49 GMT

Here's one off my shelf:

_Problem_Dog_, Behaviour and Misbehaviour, by Valerie O'Farrell, published by
Methuen. Lots of stuff I've never seen elsewhere and covers many behaviour
problems, neurotic problems and dog psychology.

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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: beserk puppy
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:18:07 GMT

She might have had an epileptic seizure  (bizarre behavior and foaming can be
associated with it).  I would take her to your vet and tell him what you
told us.  I think the horsefly was a coincidence.
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From: richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Itchy & Scratchy
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:23:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.092918.1@opal.tufts.edu> gbelli@opal.tufts.edu writes:
>As the weather is getting colder now, Spenser is suffering from dry skin.  I
>seem to recall using a powder food additive to moisturize doggy skin in the 
>past.  Of course, now I can't remember what the stuff is called.  Does this
>sound familiar to anyone?  Or have I hallucinated the whole thing?  If any-
>one has any other reccomendations, please share them.  Thanks!!

Go to your local discount drug store (I use Savon), and look for a
bottle of 250 capsules each 1000 mg of "Fish Oil Concentrate"
(I use "Your Life" brand.)  Expect to pay 20-25 dollars (US)
for it.  1 of these a day will cure dry skin and a coat like straw.
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