HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rsteele@adam.ll.mit.edu (Rob Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Commie Beemers for sale
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: rob@ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

A coworker thrust a J. Peterman Co. catalog into my hands because of a  
very strange item they're selling.  I quote...


R71 Motorcycle with Sidecar.  Found in original crates in a warehouse  
in China.  Has never been on the road.

Historical background: BMW model R71 was made in the BMW Munich factory  
from 1938 until 1941.  In 1941 the R71 model, built for the German  
military, was replaced with the R75.  The tooling and designs for the  
R71 were shipped from the Munich factory to Eisenach, Germany in 1941.   
Here the tooling and designs were stored in a cave in the side of a  
mountain.  Eisenach wound up in East Germany after WWII.

Stalin confiscated the tooling and designs.  Then had the R71 made for  
the Russian army for several years.  Stalin offered the tooling and  
designs to China in the early 1950's.  China used the R71 tooling and  
designs to manufacture this motorcycle and sidecar for the PLA  
(People's Liberation Army) up until 1967.

These bikes (with sidecars), located in a warehouse in China and  
purchased as surplus by the J. Peterman Company, were in the original  
crates and have never been on the road.  Since _these bikes_ were not  
made by BMW, or in a BMW factory, they cannot be considered authentic  
BMW motorcycles.  They are made, however, with BMW tooling and design  
specifications.

The R71 is reconditioned, painted and road-tested before it is  
delivered to our customers.  Very limited quantity.  Price: $7,500.

Call for special freight arrangements.

To order call toll free 800-874-4616 8 AM to 10 PM (ET) weekdays and  
weekends.  24-hour FAX orders: 900-346-3081.  Overseas FAX (606)  
266-6367
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Rob Steele                            rob@ll.mit.edu
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St., M-203           You cannot imagine
Lexington, MA  02173            how stupid I am.
617/981-2575                      --George Macdonald
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From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: ----> J.C. Whitney stuff ?
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:26:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.205129.248812@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI) writes:
>How does everyone feel about the quality of J.C. Whitney stuff?  The prices
>are sure good.  Did anyone ever get burned with something they bought from
>them?  Is there any product I should stay away from because of poor quality?

	Some of the J.C. Whitney stuff is very good.  Other stuff is total
shit.  Caveat Emptor.

	While we're on the subject, anyone have the phone number?  I don't
have any more catalogs, nor do I have any of those $1 subscription cards.

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            1975 CB360T (needs a name)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
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From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:31:52 GMT

In article <Stafford-021092083202@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.192212.865@news.eng.convex.com>, caban@convex.com
>(Jane Caban) wrote:
>> 
>> I have to clean the squished bug mess off the visor of my full-face helmet
>> just about every day. The thought of cleaning dead bugs off my face is
>> enough incentive for me to wear a full-face! 
>> -- 
>Ah, there is the difference between us.  It took me years to notice
>the unusual look on people's face when I licked my glasses clean
>after a ride.  

There are better ways to get one's protein fix, but none more dramatic.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:36439 ba.motorcycles:617
From: veikko@snakemail.hut.fi (Vesa J Pyyluoma)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ducati 907ie vs. Honda VFR750
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:06:39 GMT
	<Bw5r2D.EwL@dei.unipd.it>
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
From: davide@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Davide 'aie' Melan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:13:24 GMT
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
In article <Bw5r2D.EwL@dei.unipd.it> davide@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Davide 'aie' Melan) writes:
( actually referring to an earlier article but heck, so what )

 > >VFR750				Ducati 907ie

( stuff deleted )

 > >valves mortals can adjust	valves that mortals can pathetically drool on

IMHO Ducati's fuel-injection vs. VFR's carb quartet should balance the
odds somewhat, maintenance-wise that is.  Dunno, never ridden either of them.

cheers,
Vesa DoD#512 XV535
--
Vesa J Pyyluoma
veikko@snakemail.hut.fi
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Dead Battery Problem
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:32:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct11.180303.5560@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis
Jackson) wrote:
> But I would be very interested in the technique for
> picking up a dropped bike. 

Squat down next to the bike.  Grab a couple of handfuls of frame, and
stand up.  Stop before you push the bike over onto the other side.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: walking bike (Was: Re: The Dead Battery Problem)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.200132.1348@csrd.uiuc.edu> leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu 
(Bruce Leung) writes:
>cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>If you are so knowledgable about the RSS course, why would you buy a
>>bike that won't allow you to touch both feet?
>
>What does being knowledgable about the course have to do with buying
>a bike?  And who said one had to touch both feet to ride a bike?

In California, it's the vehicle code: 
 
  CVC 27801.  No person shall drive any two-wheeled motorcycle:
  (a) Equipped with a seat so positioned that the driver, when sitting aside
      the seat, cannot reach the ground with his feet.
  (b) Equipped with handlebars so positioned that the hands of the driver,
      when upon the grips, are at or above his shoulder level when sitting
      astride the seat. 

I'm surprised that other states don't have similar requirements. 


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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Impact drivers
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:23:31 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering

In article <2645@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
|> cheese-head screws are the exception on BMW's. your local BMW shop should
|> have a nice supply of all kinds and grades of allen bolts. I don't know
|> about SS, but is that REALLY a requirement?
|>  
|> Think Peace.
|> -- Joe (joe@rider.cactus.org)
|> KotBBBB (1992 K100RS16VABS)  AMA# 1234567 DOD# 4210

Thanks, I'll try the local BMW shop.  SS is nice since they won't rust, but
if I can find them, I'll try them. 

Your .sig looks familiar.  I'd make an issue of it, but since it is one of 
the few recent posts from your that didn't live up to your reputation of
profanity, I guess I'll be thankful.  :-)

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210

I love originality,
originality is my friend.
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Cost of Bike Helmets
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.com
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 02:14:24 GMT


In article <26607@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>
>IMHO modern bike helmets are disgusting rip-offs as far as price is
>concerned. The only advances I can see is that manufacturers have
>discovered how to meet the certifying tests with cheaper stuff (for
>"cheap" helmets), and with lighter stuff (for the expensive ones).
>

I'll bet that a *LARGE* part of the price of helmets is just like the cost
of health care here in the US - both suffer *HUGE* liability exposures,
and probably a large part of your helmet purchase price goes into the
hands (pockets) of insurers.

20 or 30 years ago, there were not much in the way of standards.  I've
got auto racing helmets from the late 60's, and BTW, a 55 vintage bike
helmet I wore when I lived and rode in France.  The bike helmet would 
pas today, maybe, for an aluminum soup pan but not much more.


>Twenty years ago in Britain the best bike accessory shop would carry
>not only helmets which met bike standards, but also helmets which met
>stiffer standards, such as car racing helmets. The best helmets
>exceeded any certifying standards, and specified the higher standards
>to which they were made. The differences between the various
>standards, and how well they reflected real crash conditions, was a
>topic regularly discussed in the bike magazines.
>
>I'm quite sure my new BMW System II will need to be replaced in 5
>years. It is clearly much shoddier in materials and construction. I'm
>disgusted.

Are you aware that the UK BMW System II is not the same as the US System II
was?  The UK version has the stupid "thread the buckle" chin strap mandated
by the UK safety people - the Everypalce Else version has a velcro chin
strap.

>-- 
>Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
>Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
>5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
                            Columbus Ohio USA

            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: the r.m meta flame topic
Date: 15 Oct 1992 20:23:27 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) said:
:- (12) the s/n ratio is too high and the dod is responsible for it

	when you say thing like that you have to put a smiley after it!
	people tend to assume you mean it (i should know!) and the DoD
	gets a bad name!!

	wait a sec... you dont really mean it do you???

	peace,

	- ravi

-- 
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sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:18:14 GMT

In article <8166@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
|
|The reason for this is that the Founding Fathers (you know, that
|lot of troublemakers that started the American revolution) were very
|distrustful of powerful central governments and wanted to make sure the
|people had the means to take back control if things got out of hand.
|Some folks consider this old fashioned and out of date in today's world.

And some others, like me, consider it not old fashioned or out of date,
exactly, but that it's just far too late.  Oppression has already passed 
to the point that strong disagreement with the governments postion is not 
considered patriotic, but treasonous.  If a popular armed uprising ever 
occurred in this country, the government would simply and violently 
withdraw the second amendment, regardless of the feelings of Thomas
Jefferson.

Doesn't mean that I want to give up my propery, just because a 
non-representative government thinks that my ownership might be a
threat.  They are wrong.

(Though I am happy that my government (hey, don't blame me, I voted
libertarian) "allows" me to say things like that above.  We'll see if
that ever comes back to haunt me.)

ObMoto: This is depressing.  And it's raining outside.  And I have one
of those sexy crotchless rainsuits.  I rode to work anyway.  Nyeeah!

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: tiok_jtk@tac.fi
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:58:07 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: Finnish Ice-Hockey League

Hello!
I wanted too say my own favorites, and here they come:


1) Kawasaki ZZR-1100 (or ZX-11 in the States)
-for speeding and fast riding etc...
2) Kawasaki KLR 650
-for offroad
3) Kawasaki KX 250
-for tracks
4) BMW R100GS model "Kangaroo"
-it is said it's "the perfect boxer bike ever made" and there are only
 10 to 15 bikes in the world...this bike is hand made!!!
5) Honda Shadow 1100 (Pan European)
-for touring...GoldWing is too heavy to be a motorcycle! ;-)

   Jonne Siren / FIHL

 "-Why Kawasaki?"
 -"Just check Guinness 1992 edition, chapter 'Motorcycles'"


-- 
-
SM-LIIGA tulospalvelu / Finnish Ice-Hockey League Results Service
"Living isn't necessary; icehockey is..."
NOTICE: The comments above are personal opinions, not official statements!
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:48:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Aerostitch - Do they scratch?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


>>I remember reading about a year ago that someone had problem's with
>>the stitching in their Aerostitch scratching (fairly badly) the paint
>>on the gas tank of their bike.  Since I'm supposed to be receiving my
>>suit this week (yeah!), I'd like to know if I should by a tank bra to 
>>protect the tank.

   The suit doesn't scratch.  However, anytime you have one surface
rubbing on another and you add a little dust in between you get wear
marks.  That's why my VFR wraps the seat up around where my knees would
hit.  If you want to keep it looking good and not get wear get some
clear vinyl and stick a couple of patches on the tank.  I've done that
where my belt hits the back of the tank.

>I'm still trying to get a handle on the logic behind bras. You're trying
>to keep the bike looking good by making it look ugly? Those full-body
>faring bras really give me the giggles. I've had the urge to ask the guy
>if he forgot to unwrap it after he got it home from the dealer.
>-- 

   Well, I put a full fairing bra on my '87 VFR (white) for my trip to
Alaska.  It wasn't ugly at all.  It colormatched the fairing and paid
for itself when a 36' road whale decided to take the entire road.  I
went down in a slow speed slide across the gravel shoulder.  The vinyl
was torn but the cotton backing held.  I didn't remove it until the end
of the trip at which time it was pretty beat up.  The fairing, however,
was preserved perfectly.  So giggle you way to $400 worth of fairing
lowers or $100 worth of fairing bra.  I'm damn glad I didn't unwrap it
before sliding down the road!

Life on the gravel shoulder,

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
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From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Rutgers (was: Re: Newbe Flamewars, was: MSF: BRC or ERC?)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 13:59:07 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <Oct.8.00.33.38.1992.22887@remus.rutgers.edu> merenda@remus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi) writes:
>but really, has any one else across the country have the same
>problem that i seem to encounter here? the people that go to school
>here seem to have NO CLUE whatsoever as to how to drive. . .

Isn't it that way in all university towns?  It's especially fun on days when
students are moving in or moving out.

Chas
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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:33:20 GMT

In article <1as8t7INNpc9@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
+In article 29835@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
+>
+>If you have to ask why people ride a Harley you would not understand the answer!
+ 
+Try me.
+
+Why do people ride Harleys?

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	"Four wheels good; two wheels better" -- Motorcycle Farm????
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Accident Report
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:49:23 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Oct14113438@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>
>How do you DODers feel about suing other people for little injuries?
>
I wouldn't find it hard to sleep at night with a couple of hundred bucks in
my pocket for going thru the big pain in the ass of having a wreck.
This is assuming that my bike is in bad enuf shape to need to leave at the
shop for awhile.  & I was not in as bad of shape as the bike.

The one time I was hit, (dinked is a better term) I settled strictly for
repairs.

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:58:13 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <1992Oct8.135124.24873@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
}You know, if you wore an open face helmet instead of a full face, you
}wouldn't have to worry about scratching up your face shield like that.

And have the DoD Police ambush me with airborne llama droppings to
teach me a lesson?

Not in this lifetime,

-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Did you say dual-compound?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:52:06 GMT

mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
>In article <16156@mindlink.bc.ca> John_Greer@mindlink.bc.ca (John Greer) writes:

>>The duel compound tyre is made by Spitfire and as how good they are I don't
>>know but the idea is right, long lasting centre and sticky sides.

>There is no time manufacturer call "Spitfire".  That is a model 
>designation of a Bridgestone tire.

Perhaps you could provide contact information for some companies that do
manufacture time? I've been running short on it lately, and would like
to replenish my stock.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd. (10/4/92, 1:30p)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:26:50 GMT

 
 
  You might want to put this in the FAG under: WHY?
 
trucks harass cars,   <-------------
cars harass motorcyles,            |
motorcycles harass bikes,          |
bikes harass pedestrians,          |
pedestrians harass tricycles,      |
tricycles harass little kids,      |
little kids harass dogs.           |
dogs harass cats;                  |
cats harass mice;                  |
mice harass elephants,             |
elephants harass trucks-------------
 
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