HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:19:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue Nov 17 92 at 06:48:51 (EST)

> Where did you get the "news" that there would be no new major System
> Software releases?  I've never heard Apple say that (I don't expect them,
> but I've never heard Apple say there wouldn't be any).

I believe Apple said don't EXPECT any major stuff, beyond 6.x or 6.x.x, and I
believe that pretty much meant that there would not be any major releases.  My
comments on that are that they could bring out something major anyway, and
that what they mean by major is probably like a huge OS overhaul, like System
6 was.  A 6.1 would be quite significant and important to me.

NCP
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From: voss@i43s6.ira.uka.de (Stefan Voss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Vulcan or system software?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:04:21 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
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In article <1eh53aINN475@uwm.edu>, greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (I buy VW & Porsche Stuff - Mail Me) writes:
|> 
|> I have a real problem. My Vulcan has gone haywire. (yeah, I know. What
|> else is new.) At least I think that it is my Vulcan. About once a month,
|> and now more and more frequently, my /system partition on my Vulcan20
|> has been totaly changing the names of files in the /system/system folder.
|> (Actually, this is just when I notice it actually...) And it all happens
|> at once too... i.e. Everything will be fine, but I'll park heads using the
|> AE utility, turn off the 'puter, come back in 4 hours, turn it on and I
|> get the following:
|> [weird directory listing deleted]

I had a similar problem with my hard disk, too. (Not a Vulcan, but a 
normal external SCSI disk) It turned out that the problem was caused by
the cable connecting the hard disk to the GS. I was using a flat cable
that was too long and changing to a normal SCSI cable fixed the problem. 

Though I can't imagine AE selling Vulcans with faulty cables, take a 
look at the cable. Maybe it has come loose. This is the only hint
I can give.

Hope, this helps a little.

      Stefan Voss         (voss@ira.uka.de)




Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: amakkawy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (AbdelAziz Makkawy)
Subject: Apple II software wanted
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:38:57 GMT

I am looking for any Apple II software. Please let me know if you happen
to have any you want to get rid of or sell. My particular interested is 
in educational software and games for young children.  Please E-Mail your 
response.  Thanks.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Artillery
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:57:37 GMT

There's also a way cool IIGS version called CastleArms.  It has sound
effects (minimal, but good), and you fire using the mouse to draw a vector
onscreen.

- Eric S.

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FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: .fli
Date: 18 Nov 1992 05:10:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: FTP?
Keywords: FLI, FTP?

In article <BxvBHn.9Eo@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
>
>To: Neville Smith
>Re: .FLI files
>
>There's no need for someone to write a program for AutoCad's .FLI files;
>there's already a great one. It's included as part of SuperConvert, a great
>graphic utility written by Jason Harper and published by Seven Hills.
>Included on the disk is a utility named FLI.AWAY. It's relatively easy to
>use, but it takes a real long time to convert FLI files, because they can be
>made up of dozens or even hundreds of frames.
>
>What FLI.AWAY will do is somehow dissect a FLI file into individual frames,
>and then you can use Paintworks (or equivalent) to create a $C2 animation.
>
>Joe Kohn

And where can one FTP this program?!
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          lazer@lablues.UUCP  |Call L/A Blues BBS at (207) 777-3465 for IBM
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple Video Overlay Card... Can I adjust it?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:34:35 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung) writes:

>Lately the video on my VOC has slided over to the left. What I need to 
>know is if I can adjust those little knobs on the card and which one to 
>re-center the video. Recently I bought a VCR so I can now watch TV, but 

If you are going to try this, be VERY careful. All those knobs have paint
blobs on them for a reason. Make sure you can reverse any adjustments you
make.

I remember hearing about a really deep reason why this would happen, but
it's slipping my mind right now. Something to do with the difference in
how some monitors/TVs handle the IIgs video sync as opposed to the more
standard sync that the VOC puts out.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST & GS/OS cache
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:07:04 PST
Organization: BBS

>>Still, I see no reason why Drew shouldn't add GS/OS cache support;
>>unless his time is needed on other R&D work.
>
>Also agreed. I believe Drew feels there is other stuff that deserves
>more attention, but if enough people ask for i>into it again.

What is the "other stuff" Drew is working on anyways??

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com

Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:05:50 -0500 
From: Gregory Ross Thompson <gregt+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Out of This World - Out of My Mind

  Okay, I got it in the mail today.  Lemme start from the top:

  It's written such that if you don't have an accelerator, it's at a
reasonable speed.  If you have an accelerator, it's still at a
reasonable speed, but you can take advantage of a larger screen.
There are 4 options: 16mm (full screen), 35mm (matted: 3/4 height,
full width), 70mm (letterboxed: 1/2 height, full width), and
Television (1/2 height, 1/2 width).  With my Zip 9/64, full screen was
fine, and matted was amazing (smaller screen, but all the animation
was a bit faster, not that it was slow with full screen).

  Okay, the game starts with an AMAZING intro where your dude drives
up to the lab, goes in, starts an experiment, and gets zapped 'Out of
This World'.  Absolutely spectacular graphics and sound.  Blew my
socks off.

  Then, the actual game starts.  Unfortunately, I can't get past the
damn buffalo.  I haven't tried all too hard yet, but it's kinda
disconcerting when I can't even get to the 4th screen of action...
I'm not saying that's bad, I'm just saying that I was too impatient to
keep trying to get around/past the damn buffalo, or whatever it is.

  The whole game is in a cinematic format.  As you get through the
game, the plot unfolds, etc.  Your guy's movements are pretty
realistic.  The sound through the game play is great.  Hell,
everything about it is awesome.  It's hard drive installable.  It uses
resources, so there are only 2 files to copy onto your hard drive, one
from each of the two floppies.

  Wowza.  Here's something to put on that christmas/chanukah list.

		-Greg
		 InterNet: gregt+@cmu.edu
		       or: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu
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		 AOL     : GRThompson
From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GEnie gateway (was Re: Applelink gateway)
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:32:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Technological Renaissance Information eXchange

According to the November/December issue of GEnie LIVEWIRE, page 11:

"A subscription costs $9.95 per month. Incoming mail is included, while
outgoing mail is charged to your GEnie account at only $.40 per message."
From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Gateways?
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:18:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Nov 11 92 at 20:09:29 (EST)

herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung) writes:
> Could somebody post the gateways to access GEnie, America Online, and
> CompuServe?
 
As far as I know, GEnie doesn't yet have an InterNet gateway, though I may
be incorrect on that (if so, someone please post the contact info!).
AO and CI$ gateway contact info follows...
 
Note that all quote marks (") below are used to set off what should be typed,
they should not actually be typed in when sending mail.
 
America Online:
To send mail to an active America Online account, send to
  "accountname@aol.com"
To receive InterNet mail from an America Online account, have the user send
   to "username@gnh-starport.cts.com"
 
CompuServe:
To send mail to an active CompuServe account, send to
  "usernumber@compuserve.com"  (Note that since CompuServe accounts are
  normally in the form of "72555,555", you must replace the "," with a ".",
  so it becomes "72555.555@compuserve.com").
To receive mail from a CompuServe user, have the user send to
  ">internet:username@gnh-starport.cts.com"
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From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dave Leffler
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:14:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Nov 11 92 at 19:10:15 (EST)

78313@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Christian_Karpp) writes:
> sorry to put this on comp.sys but I do need the e-mail address of Dave
> Leffler (author of ShowPic 6.0).
 
America Online:   DAVE L32
GEnie:            D.LEFFLER
Snail Mail:       Dave Leffler
                  14 I Cape Drive
                  Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548
 
(in case you don't know, you can send e-mail to his AO account through the
InterNet by addressing to Davel32@aol.com)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the Mac?
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:03:09 GMT

Todd E. Van Hoosear (todd@CL-NEXT4.CL.MSU.EDU) wrote:
: Does anyone out there know anything about a TeX viewer/editor for the Mac or  
: how to get TeX files into a Mac format?

Sorry, this is the Apple II newsgroup... Go to comp.sys.mac.misc and ask...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: 4MB Ram cards... Which one(s)?
Keywords: RAM
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:52:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.013559.13075@leela.cs.orst.edu> yoshi@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Yoshi the Dino.) writes:
>
>	So anyways, is there a 4MB card which is CHEAPER than $179.97?

There is the Sequential Systems 4MB RAM-GS card for $140, available from
Big Red Computer Club (402) 379-4680.  It's a great deal, and it comes
with the full 4MB ready to go.  (It's also compatible with the CV Tech
RAM card's "piggyback" expansion, so you can go all the way up to 8MB.)

There's also a brand new one which I haven't heard about before called
the CV-RAM...  It comes with 4 MB (for $185 from TMS Peripherals, (800)
275-4867) and supposedly can hold up to 8MB on board using 1x4 DRAMS.

There is also the Q-RAM GS from Quality Computers (800) 777-3642.  It can
go up to 4MB with SIMMs, and there is supposed to be a new model with
4MB surface mounted for $200.  As far as I know, this card is not
compatible with the CV Tech "piggyback" RAM card, so 4MB is the maximum
you can expect from this card.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: mo@wind.bellcore.com (Michael O'Dell)
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Keywords: 
 
Reply-To: mo@bellcore.com
Organization: Center for Chaotic Repeatabilty
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:03:06 GMT


OK - maybe I was confused....

Barry Margolin suggested that maybe the original comment arrived
at $10/GFLOP, not a $10K 1-GFLOP machine.  That would mean a
$10M 1-TFLOP machine.

while i still think that's low, it isn't as unreasonable as
i first thought when i interpreted it as impying a $10K 1-GFLOP
machine.

i now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.

	-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:29:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:

>>>>what are they getting in addition to computational power?
>... several hundred gallons of Fluorinert(r) ;-).

Not necessarily. Some of us are ozone-friendly. :->
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:40:17 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <schumach.721938542@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>In <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
>
>>>>>what are they getting in addition to computational power?
>>... several hundred gallons of Fluorinert(r) ;-).
>
>Not necessarily. Some of us are ozone-friendly. :->

Fluorinert is a FLUOROcarbon, not a CHLOROFLUOROcarbon like Freon. 
It doesn't form any weird, nasty ozone-depleting free radicals.
It's the chlorine that does that. We're a kinder, gentler supercomputer
company ;-).

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:11:47 GMT

It seems to me that supercomputing power costs about $250,000 per GFLOP
nowadays. It also seems to me that a company could sell a GFLOP box that
has enough memory, I/O and internal bandwidth to support near peak
performance at under $10,000 and have PLENTY of profit margin.

My question is, when people buy supercomputers at $250,000 per GFLOP, what are
they getting in addition to computational power?

Jason W. Solinsky
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:16:51 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1992Nov17.172227.19613@nas.nasa.gov> fineberg@nas.nasa.gov writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.054017.9167@craycos.com>, sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
>|> In article <schumach.721938542@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>|> >In <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
>|> >
>|> >>>>>what are they getting in addition to computational power?
>|> >>... several hundred gallons of Fluorinert(r) ;-).
>|> >
>|> >Not necessarily. Some of us are ozone-friendly. :->
>|> 
>|> Fluorinert is a FLUOROcarbon, not a CHLOROFLUOROcarbon like Freon. 
>|> It doesn't form any weird, nasty ozone-depleting free radicals.
>|> It's the chlorine that does that. We're a kinder, gentler supercomputer
>|> company ;-).
>|> 
>|> Steve
>Yea, but do you use CFCs in the cooling plant of the Y-MP???????

Wrong company. You're thinking of Cray Research.

Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:53:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.095903.8190@meiko.com> jim@canopus.meiko.co.uk (James Cownie) writes:
>In article <JET.92Nov17104503@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>, jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> What a silly question.
>|> 
>|> Blinking lights.  Lots and lots of blinking lights.   well, if one
>|> buys a massively parallel supercomputer, one gets blinking lights.
>
>You have the wrong technical term here. Those aren't blinking lights, 
>they're the "Front panel visualization tool" (Page 6 Intel Paragon 
>Supercomputer glossy : order no 203/6/92/10K/GA)
>
Well, we actually used to use the little blinking lights on top of
the Cray-2 to troubleshoot system hangs. Since the mainframe was
totally immersed in Flourinert and had a limited number of test-points
for scoping signals, we could decode the LEDs to find out what the
last issued instruction was prior to the hang. Several other 
control signals were also viewable this way. 

BTW, I also decry the lack of bells and whistles on our current offerings.
I want a 'nert waterfall on the C90!!...Waaaahhhhhh.....

Matt Marchese
matt@cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Der Blinken Lights: What are people paying for
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 00:36:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.192804.4410@news.eng.convex.com>
patrick@convex.COM (Patrick F. McGehearty) writes:
Discussion on the C.mmp.
>However, current systems have other methods for getting similar information.
>Other than being a designer preference for "flash" vs "cool", what benefits
>do lots of blinking lights offer, and what should they represent?
>I.e. Do people have suggestions for specific hardware events that might
>be connected to blinking lights on a massively parallel shared memory super?

This is a good question if one stops a moment to really think about it.
The software methods of current monitoring systems tend to be invasive,
more so than people are willing to admit (I have a copy of Viz'92 in front
of me).  I thought about how I would answer this, and it occurred to me that
I wanted to know about the occurence of contention.  But this is wrong.

Event programmability is probably the most important thing you can
build into a diagnostic light system.  I don't think we will know right off
what specific events we will want to watch.  If we did, then we would discover
that raises questions about events the hardware can't detect.

A light system is probably best designed to detect the occurance of events in
a way less invasive than software.  This flexibility is more useful than
software.  Lights have numerous of problems: they are easily overwhelmed,
take up lots of space (real estate), but they might be the answer to
information loss when pushing data thru an Ethernet or other control straw
to a workstation.  But I guess we should be at SC'92 to discuss this.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: rhine@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu (Andrew P. Rhine)
Subject: Speed comparison?
Summary: Query of comparative speeds of two computers
Keywords: Cray X-MP RS6000 supercomputer IBM
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:12:48 GMT

Does anyone have information on the relative speeds of a one-processor
Cray X-MP and an IBM RS/6000 (say, Powerserver 540, if it matters) on
a highly computationally intensive task (numerical integration of 
differential equations, basically)?
E-mail or a post here would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Andrew Rhine
rhine@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: prp@ssd.intel.com (Paul Pierce)
Subject: Re: CFCs, What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Organization: Intel
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.192810.1213@nas.nasa.gov>, eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
|> >>>>>what are they getting in addition to computational power?
|> 
|> >In <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
|> >>... several hundred gallons of Fluorinert(r) ;-).
|> 
|> In article <schumach.721938542@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com
|> (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
|> >Not necessarily. Some of us are ozone-friendly. :->
|> 
|> Now, I could go over to Pollock's office in atmospheric chemistry, or
|> some one from NCAR could pipe in, BUT let there be no mistake, the
|> amount of Fluorinert running in Crays is probably trivial to the amount used
|> in baths and washes (I've seen the one in Richardson) used in making computers
|> and other electronics (as I view another hazying Silicon Valley day):
|> Intel, NSC, AMD, MIPS/SGI, etc.

Fortunately, it turns out to be possible to manufacture chips and boards without
using CFC's. Intel, for instance, has/will soon essentially eliminate them. There
was info about this in a recent corporate report, but now I can't find it so I
don't have the details. Hopefully all the other companies are working on it too.

-- 
Paul Pierce			prp@ssd.intel.com
Intel
I suppose I should have a disclaimer here.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: bob@tera.com (Bob Alverson)
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a s
Reply-To: bob@tera.com
Organization: Tera Computer Company, Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:09:54 GMT

In article 5302@athena.mit.edu, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
> 
> My question is, when people buy supercomputers at $250,000 per GFLOP, what are
> they getting in addition to computational power?
> 

Memory bandwidth!
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: Re: What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:57:28 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1992Nov16.174414.12427@craycos.com> jrbd@craycos.com (James Davies) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.141214.7632@walter.bellcore.com> mo@bellcore.com writes:
>>if you know how to build a 1GFLOP machine for $10,000
>>(much less sell it for that much), then you should do
>>so immediately and become immensely wealthy.
>>
>>i don't know where you got this $10K number, but boy,
>>are you confused.
>
>Actually, even the $250,000/GFLOP number sounds a bit low to me; $2M/GFLOP
>is closer to the current going rate.

And for a *sustainable* gigaflop/sec, I'd say the number is even higher...

Steve