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From: rmarkowi@pollux.usc.edu (Robert Markowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: overrated CDs
Date: 31 Aug 1992 22:20:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu writes:

-- munch --

>> 
>>3) Anything by the Eagles
>>       I'm still trying to figure out what made this band so popular.
>     This band became so popular because they came up the in innovation of
>COUNTRY MUSIC SOUNDS behind some decent lyrics.  That most of their fans have
>since stampeded onto the country music scene is proof that the Eagles knew they
>found something that would spin lots of money from people who wanted to
>consider themselves rock fans but actually had country hearts.
> 

	While some of their early albums were country I think you
	would have a hard time finding a country song on their
	last two albums (Hotel California and the Long Run).  
	IMHO, the Eagles did so well because they did have
	great lyrics (usually) and blended quite a few different styles
	of music together in their songs. 
	
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: OFFERED: Discography of "Doldingers Passport"
Keywords: doldinger passport cd discography
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:52:01 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <malcolm.714847350@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
|craigs@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley) writes:
|
|>The only one that
|>I don't have any info on is the 1973 Jubilee release (the triple LP); I
|>didn't even know that one existed! Can some kind person post or e-mail me
|>the track listing, personel, cat. #, etc, so that I can include it (you
|>will be credited!) 
| 
|I'm posting this because every time in the past I've emailed Craig it  
|bounced. I'll try that again too...  
| 
|The triple LP Jubilee release info was from Rock Record. I could even be        misunderstanding it as a triple lp - here's the entry  
| 
|DOLDINGER JUBILEE (TRIPLE)  1973  ATLANTIC  60073      
| 

I've seen it.  It was a real long time ago though.

|Wolfgang Scmid and Klaus Doldinger are the only ones listed as being on         this, but the info looks incomplete for a number of the lps listed.    
| 
|>Also, any solo work info, other that for DAS_BOOT and
|>THE_NEVERENDING_STORY would also be appreciated! Thanks!
| 
|Rock Record also lists an early solo lp:
| 
|KLAUS DOLDINGER - BLUES HAPPENING   19??  WORLD PACIFIC  20167 
| 
|with Ingfried Hoffman on piano, Helmut Kendelburger on bass, and 
|Cees See on drums.
 
This almost sounds like a psuedonym.  Cees See...Curt S. Cress?


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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski)
Subject: digi-pak commercials
Organization: GTE Government Systems
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 17:15:27 GMT



I'm not much of a radio listener these days (commutes mostly), but I had
the "pleasure" to hear a promo (most likely written by WEA) of just how
wonderful the digi-pak is ecologically (in vivid detail about how the
packaging is no longer wasted, and how it could be made from recyclable
materials, etc).  Nowhere was there a mention of its lack of durability.

Further KTID (I think that's their call letters (Santa Barbara)) must have
been rather pleased about those promo dollars that they got, as they 
probably usually have to pay their own way during their "ecological
minute" program (or whatever they called it).

I've yet to buy one, as there's always plenty of other music that doesn't
come in these types of things, but now that WEA is going into mass-
marketing of how wonderful these things are for you, and knowing how
gullible a large number of consumers are these days, it could end up
not being too long before WEA ends up with all of their CDs in these
digi-crap things.  Sigh.

-- 

Frank Malczewski		(fdm@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Blues
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:02:44 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug26.134318.9982@news.unige.ch> favre@medsun.unige.ch (favre) writes:
>Hello net !
>
|(*) Can you please give me some good blues CD titles. 
|My blues knowledge is rather limitated : 
|Robert Cray, Gary Moore (the last CDs), BB King, 
|Albert King, and some others.
|(*) Can I have your opinion about Buddy Guy ?
 
Buddy Guy is great.   He provided a large influence on the late Stevie
Ray Vaughn, as well as many others.  He has been around quite a few years
and as a result his style has changed somewhat.  He lastest release, "You're
Damn Right I've Got the Blues" (great title), as well as another recent
release, "Stone Crazy" are more uptempo.  Some describe them as Hendrix-like.
There's a lot more growling in his vocals as well.  

I prefer the recordings that he did with Chess.  Fortunately, the complete
Chess recordings were recently released on a double CD.  I would highly 
recommend it.  During that era he not only showed his guitar prowess but
showed that "this man can really sing the blues".  He just much more emotion
in his voice back then.  He also had the memphis horns backing the band on
many of the recordings.  Great stuff, maynard.


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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Depeche Mode -- DJ's Revenge
From: sysbob@pimacc.pima.edu
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:59:31 -0700

Unexpectedly discovered the Depeche Mode CD _DJ's Revenge_ lurking in a local
store.  Totally remixes by various outfits like Razormaid, Bogus Bros, others
I've never heard of.  Find myself contemplating violating my own price limits
and treating myself to a birthday present.

But I thought I'd ask-  what should be a reasonable price?
			how widely available is this CD?
			and, most importantly, is it worth it?
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: overrated CDs
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:39:51 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <la5vchINN7tj@pollux.usc.edu> rmarkowi@pollux.usc.edu (Robert Markowitz) writes:
|
|	While some of their early albums were country I think you
|	would have a hard time finding a country song on their
|	last two albums (Hotel California and the Long Run).  

I don't know about that.  Have you heard much of what's being passed off
as Country music these days?

|	IMHO, the Eagles did so well because they did have
|	great lyrics (usually) and blended quite a few different styles
|	of music together in their songs. 
	
True.  I used to work for a band that did a cover of "Twenty One".  That's
a bluegrass song if I ever heard one.

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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Where did we leave off on the soundtrack from LEGEND?
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:23:31 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: billd@cheetah

Is it available in the UK or ???  I had a friend go to Tower Records in
London and he couldn't find it.

Thanks and sorry to bring this up again...

--Bill
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From: jry@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John Young)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Need 1-800 number for BMG CD Club PLEASE!
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:01:55 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.



Could someone please e-mail me with a 1-800 number for the BMG CD club.
Thanks in advance.

John Young
jry@reef.cis.ufl.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: morty@midips.in-berlin.de (Martin Poetter)
Subject: Writable CD - When on market?
Organization: Private Organisation fuer angewandte Informagie
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 11:09:55 GMT

Hello folks,

I don't know if I name this thing right in my "German English":

When will the first "writable CD player" appear on the market?
I think there are just some prototypes somewhere, but you will have to
sell your car before you can buy it.

Thank you, 
  Martin.
  
P.S. to the U.S.:
In many U.S. movies the bad guys drive a Mercedes Benz car. Why??
Or just remember these MTV rap videos. What the hell is so fascinating
with those cars? In Germany one of three cars moving around is a Mercedes
Benz I bet...  
-- 
morty@midips.in-berlin.de
Martin Poetter / W1000 Berlin 20 / Germany
Student d. E-Technik, TU Berlin, 6. Sem.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 14:01:15 -0400 
From: Gregory James Legowski <gl11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: The digi-crap problem...

I, like (it would seem) most people on the net, despise the digi-pak. While
I'd much rather see this type of packaging banned from the face of the Earth
forever, I found a temporary solution that works for me.  All you need is an
empty jewel box ($0.44 from Noteworthy), a metal-edged ruler, a SHARP X-Acto
knife, and some patience ;-)  If you're careful you'll get all the artwork
of the digi-crap in the durability of the jewel box.

Disclaimer:  I'm NOT responsible if you try this and destroy the pak in the
process.  Proceed at your own risk and all that rot.

--Greg
gregleg@microsoft.com (despite what the From: line says ;-)
gl11+@andrew.cmu.edu (forwards to above)
gerg@cmu.edu (ditto)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Summary: Ordering CDs from overseas
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:33:23 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany

In article <52509@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.180933.8477@vax.oxford.ac.uk> ams@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>These are a few US-based CD suppliers, who (according to the people who 
>>sent me the addresses) will sell CDs by mail order.

Could someone please mail the list to me ??
I've missed it when it was posted :-((

Thanx,
Stefan


-- 
+ Stefan Bechtold # stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org # Voice +49 711 813240 +
++++++++sed nemo potuit tangere: merda fuit ! (Martial III 17)+++++++++
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: Janne.Anttila@lut.fi (Janne Anttila)
Subject: Re: Becker & Fagen: The early years
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:42:57 GMT
Distribution: rec
Disclaimer: Graecum est, non legitur.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <1992Aug27.170502.16971@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:


   Did you get it?

   Steely Dan only has one famous bootleg recording and this live cd contains
   all of it.  The sound quality is better than any record or tape of the same
   concert. Not bad - quite listenable.  The versions of all the songs have
   extended jams in them.  Get this.  Pay any price.


Yeah, I got it and I didn't even pay extra price. And I like it, too.


--
	Spirits make me move in mysterious ways...
						   Janne Anttila
-- 
	Spirits make me move in mysterious ways...
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6273 rec.music.misc:22656
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: BMG vs. Columbia House CD clubs
Keywords: CD, BMG, Columbia
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:32:12 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <rnelson.715494388@itchy> rnelson@itchy.dsd.es.com (Rob Nelson) writes:
>I have been interested in joining a CD club lately.  I would like to
>hear from people who have experience with both the Columbia House and
>BMG Compact Disc clubs.  I know what both of their introductory offers
>are, but once you are a member, what are they like?  Do they continue
>to offer great specials on their CD's?  What kind of return policies
>does each club have, in case you decide you don't like a CD you order?
>Any summaries from people with experience with either club would
>greatly be appreciated.

I'm in the BBG club.

Their intro offer is "8 for the price of one".  You get four for free,
right off.  Then you buy one at full price (usually about $17), then
you get a voucher for three more freebies.  Shipping charges are
usually about $1.80 per single-disc album.

I don't know about the return policy, since I've never had to return
anything.  If you get shipped something you didn't order (if you're
late with the monthly reply card), you can send it back with no
problem.  I don't know about if you don't like it - I wouldn't expect
them to take it back, but I never asked to find out.  If it doesn't
play, they'll replace it with another one.

They have an OK selection.  A variety from all music types.  Almost
every month has a special offer.  Either a "buy one at full price, get
two free", or a "buy two at half price, get one free" deal.  With
these offers, prices come to about $8.00 per disc (including tax and
shipping) which beats all CD stores I know of.

With every full-price CD you buy (including ones purchased during
special offer months), you get to buy one extra at half price.  If you
don't take it at the time of your order, they send a bonus certificate
good for the half price CD at any time.


-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "TELEPHONE, n.  An Invention of the devil which
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   abrogates some of the advantages of making a
 ((|,)                          disagreeable person keep his distance."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: What's an EP?
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:03:51 GMT
Organization: Jay Maynard Fan Club

Hap Freiberg...

> ... EPs (extended play + 33 1/3) were meant 
> to be a bridge between 45s and LPs: more songs than a 45 but cheaper than 
> an LP. Eps began to be used extensively as demo discs and introductory
> discs by new groups whose recording companies didn't want to gamble 
> on the expense of a full LP. EPs were also used by the recording companies
> as promos for existing artists.

EPs come/came in both 33 and 45.  While they've not been used in the USA
very much, they were very common in England, especially in the 60's, when
LP's weren't the main sales point.  Very popular groups (e.g., the Beatles)
often released EP's of their new songs, before an album issue.
--
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Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6272 rec.music.misc:22655
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: BMG number
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:26:14 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep2.185031.19392@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rjp1@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (be here now) writes:
>A while ago, someone here mentioned that there was a telephone
>number for BMG that you could call to find out exactly, just how
>many more cds you had to buy before dropping your BMG membership.

You only have to buy one CD (at full price) to fulfil your obligation
with BMG.  When you do, you'll get a certificate good for three more
CD's free (plus shipping).

The 1-800 number is useful to get on their no-order list.  People on
this list don't have to send in a card every month to not be shipped
the "current selection".  You can also place orders via this number.
Be sure to have your account number handy when you call, since they
only know you by this number.

>Could someone email/post this number again?  Many thanks.

I've got it at home.  I'll try to remember to bring it in soon.

-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "TELEPHONE, n.  An Invention of the devil which
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   abrogates some of the advantages of making a
 ((|,)                          disagreeable person keep his distance."
  ~|~                              --- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: The digi-crap problem...
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <gedE5fq00WB3M8WnZX@andrew.cmu.edu> Gregory James Legowski <gl11+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I, like (it would seem) most people on the net, despise the digi-pak. While
>I'd much rather see this type of packaging banned from the face of the Earth
>forever, I found a temporary solution that works for me.  All you need is an
>empty jewel box ($0.44 from Noteworthy), a metal-edged ruler, a SHARP X-Acto
>knife, and some patience ;-)  If you're careful you'll get all the artwork
>of the digi-crap in the durability of the jewel box.

I prefer scanning the artwork into a computer so I can manipulate it to simulate
the folding book style of Real Jewel Box packages.
('Course I'm still wishing for a *color* scanner ...)

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: craigs@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Where did we leave off on the soundtrack from LEGEND?
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:36:01 GMT
Reply-To: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <1992Aug25.172331.12064@informix.com> billd@informix.com (William Daul) writes:
>Is it available in the UK or ???  I had a friend go to Tower Records in
>London and he couldn't find it.
>
>Thanks and sorry to bring this up again...
>
As near as I understand it, _both_ versions (the Goldsmith version, which WAS
on CD, and the Tangerine Dream version which has NEVER been on CD) are out-of-
print and can only be found by luck or in the used bins. No reissue is planned.


Regards,

Craig Shipley

=  Craig Shipley, aka: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com    = aTTeNTioN, TeCHNiCiaNS =
=  Pyramid Technology Corp., Annapolis Junction, MD  = oF SPaCeSHiP eaRTH!!   =
=  I speak for myself, not my company.               = THiS iS YouR CaPTaiN!! =
=  ATTENTION.THIS UNIT WIRED TO OPERATE AT 220 VOLTS = YouR CaPTaiN iS DeaD!! =
>--Bill
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From: ivo@pyramid.unr.edu (Ian (Ivo) Veach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Siouxsie re-releases?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:28:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <34522@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.055304.1182@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung) writes:
>> have the Siouxsie back catalogue been released in the US recently?
>> and if yes, are there extra tracks on them?
>
>had Supersition/Tinderbox/Through the Looking glass, though stores
>
>I'd bet against additional tracks, but I'd be pleased to see some.

	TtLG, or atleast the one I have doesn't have any xtra tracks.  I bought
it atleast 3 years ago.  Tinderbox I bought when they first started talking
about re-releasing Siouxsie stuff (maybe 1.5 yrs ago?).  It has all the songs
from Tinderbox, plus the complete Cities In Dust 12" on it as well.
	I wish they would re-release the remixes and/or alternate versions of
Spellbound!!!!

Ivo
ivo@cs.unr.edu
"You can lead a horse to water, but if you can make him float on his back,
 you've really got something."

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: niranjan@sbstaff2.cs.sunysb.edu (Niranjan)
Subject: Cut-outs.
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:43:36 GMT

I was wondering what the cut-outs (the notched CD-longbox/LP/Cassette)
represent. Are they in any way inferior to the regular albums?
I remember this being discussed a long while ago, but don't recall what
came out of it...

Pl. email since this might not be of general interest (:-). Thanks,

-Niranjan.
From: mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: GOVERNMENT ISSUE - YOU CD?
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:11:34 GMT
Organization: GMD-Fokus (Berlin)


hi,
    anybody knows if GI's 'YOU' is
available on cd (giant recs. maybe?).
can you give me the cat.no.?

thanx - tB!
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Blues
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:19:48 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1280.374.uupcb@wugate.wustl.edu>, bill.hoff%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Bill Hoff) writes...

} Get your hands on a copy of Buddy Guy & Junior Wells live in montreux;
} its on the Evidence label. It's Buddys finest recording and possibly the 
} best guitar oriented blues CD ever released. As to my opinion about Buddy;
} How in the world did Stevie Ray Vaughn get so popular? While the best 
} blues guitarist since Freddie King (Buddy) gets no notice by the main 
} stream... It's a crime!!

Well, I'd say that Steve Ray Vaughan got so popular because he's an excellent
guitar player, Buddy Guy or no Buddy Guy. Maybe it's a crime (and, yes, I
agree, that it's a crime) that Buddy never got any notice -- despite the
fact that Eric Clapton has cited him as his primary influence -- but it'd
have been another crime for SRV to not get noticed, either.

Anyway, I'll second the implied comment about Freddie King (my favorite
of the Three Kings of Blues, though it's a tough call). My other "main
man" is Otis Rush. Other must-haves include Luther "Guitar Jr." Johnson,
Howlin' Wolf (especially his LONDON SESSIONS album, with Eric Clapton,
Bill Wyman, and Charlie Watts along for the ride -- you haven't lived
until you've heard the Wolfman trying to explain to Clapton how to play
slide guitar!), Lightnin' Hopkins, and Willie Dixon.

A "lost" blues guitarist worth hunting down (nothing of his is on CD, but
find LPs if you can) is Shuggie Otis, who at the age of 15 could make your
teeth bleed with his playing. His more well-known father, Johnny Otis,
warn't no slouch, either.

And of course, there's THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS OF ROBERT JOHNSON. If you
don't have this, you don't have a blues collection.

For more modern, screaming metal bluesmen, in addition to Stevie Ray, I'd
recommend George Thorogood and the Destroyers (mostly their first two
albums: the first eponymously titled and the second, MOVE IT ON OVER),
Lonnie Mack, and Duke Robillard.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com