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From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW Wobbles
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:43:14 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
Distribution: usa

Barry B Burnette (barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep9.223834.1179@msus1.msus.edu> pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
: >In article <1992Sep9.213434.29063@ctr.columbia.edu>, barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette) writes:
: >> In article <1992Sep5.145129.1136@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
: >>>
: >>> My BMW ('81 R100RS) wobbles in moderately hard turns....
         ^^^
: >>>
: >>> john
: >>>
: >> 
: First of all jerk-off, he did not explain the wobble very clearly except that
: it does occur in turns.  Secondly, if the chain is causing -some- flex,
                                            ^^^^^
: of control if it resonates at a higher speed.  I experienced this on a GSXR
: 750.  The bike wobbled slightly in hard turns; steady as a rock on the 
: straights.  At about 130 mph, the bike began to wobble violently.  I was
: lucky to just hang on until it settled back down.  The chain was the cause.
: So you just go ride your bike with the same level of intelligence you
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^
: portray in your witty little post... that is, if you even have a bike.
: 
: Barry B.
: Ride fast, Ride hard, Stay young!
: (except for mental midgets, they should stay home)

Perhaps you should look (and think) before you leap!
Now what is wrong with what has been underscored, hmm?


--
Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette)
Subject: Re: BMW Wobbles
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:34:34 GMT
X-Posted-From: fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep5.145129.1136@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>
> My BMW ('81 R100RS) wobbles in moderately hard turns....
>
> john
>

If the wobble you are describing occurs during high speed, sweeping
turns, then the problem is probably your tires.  Inflation, wear, and
or alignment.  I went through the same problem last week on my FZ700.
Also, an over-tightened, unevenly worn chain will cause the swing arm
to flex, thereby making the bike wobble.  Since yours is not doing
this on a straight(?), you probably don't have that problem.  A new
set of balanced, aligned, and properly inflated tires will make all
the difference in the world.

Barry B.                      

It's not how fast you ride...
It's how you ride fast.
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Calling ST1100 Owners
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:34:24 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <24702@oasys.dt.navy.mil> forestel@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J. Lauren Forestell) writes:

>and what has become major problem - numb hands.

>when he went on 
>a business trip that was 700 miles each way he said his hands numbed 
>out so badly that he has never recovered.  His hands became sensitized 
>and are getting worse.

This could be serious. Consult a doctor. Persisting in the numbing
activity _will_ result in permanent nerve damage and Reynaud's
syndrome, which not only involves numbness and tingling but
over-sensitivity to cold and "white finger". There is no cure.

>The tech rep suggested perhaps holding the bars 
>differently.  (Do YOU think that would be helpful?! C'mon. Get real.)

The problem stems from the hands vibrating. The hands are holding
vibrating handlebars. How you hold them has a BIG effect on how much
vibration is transmitted from the bars into your hands. The most
important factor is how tightly you grip them. Many people hold the
bars too tightly, through excitement, hanging on in a wind blast, or
because the the throttle springs are too heavy. Arranging things so
you can use a light relaxed grip makes a BIG difference. Any chain-saw
operator can tell you that (it's an occupational disease with them).

Though you are unwilling to believe it, in many cases just teaching
oneself to relax the hand grip is all that is required.

I've had this problem on every bike I've ever owned, except the Norton
Commando. I've also fixed it on every bike I've ever owned. On the
current bike the solution was soft grips, weakening the throttle
springs and lubricating the whole throttle control linkages so it
requires only a mild grip to turn the throttle, and dropping the bars
to permit me to "lie on the wind" at my cruising speed with no force
at all on the bars, and hence a relaxed grip is possible.

If the problem is handlebar resonance at certain speeds, then bar
snakes, end weights, etc., can produce dramatic improvements, but this
is less common the vendors of those devices would have you believe.

But the most important thing is STOP DOING IT until a fix has been
found. Wrecked hands might improve your changes in the law courts, but
I'd prefer to stay healthy!
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Castrol Syntec (Oh God! Not oil again!)
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:42:51 GMT

In article <13521@pogo.wv.tek.com> kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills) writes:
|  I'm not yet an official denizen, so my opinion may not count for much
|here.

  Or, it might count for *more*...

|The engine ran really smooth before and after.  I was going to put
|Mobil-1 in but it was on back order,

  Just *where* are you buying the Mobil-1??  "Back order"????

| and they had just recieved the
|Syntec so I decided to try it (first making sure it met all the 
|qualification stated in my manual). No complaints here. It cost me
|$4.99 / quart, which I understand is about the same for Mobil-1.

  You are definitely buying the Mobil-1 at the wrong place.  I picked up a
case (12-quarts) of the stuff for less than $50 at Target.  I think the
per-quart price was $3.80.

  I'm interested in finding out more about the new Castrol Synthetic, also.
Sounds like a mix of Slick-50 and synthetic oil...

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: re: equal opp cheesecake
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:38:23 GMT
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames



The strange thing is, that in for-business catalogs of women's wear
(as opposed to for-end-use catalogs).
etc, the clothes are often on dummies.  (No, not on nude wheelie
experts....)    It's just cheaper to dress up/photograph dummies than
it is live models, and to the "expert" eye, a dummie is probably
*better* than a live model.

Oh well.

I'm *really* irked by all the bikini-clad women + moto t-shirts...

[Long rant on body image, lookism, heterocentrism, et al, deleted for
the sake of my sanity and yours.]

.. and that's why we should toss Bush and all his cronies into a big
vat of Chem-Dip.


--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
 "Nude wheelies are probably the ultimate in squidliness."  -- someone at
                                                          Lissa's party
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: glasses and helmets
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:19:40 GMT


artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com writes:
|I don't have the ear hook glasses; I have regular style, but
|this works for me:  With the helmet on, not strapped, push the
|glasses on as far as possible.  Push the ride side of the helmet
|to the left with one hand and resist the push with your neck;
|this creates a gap for the left earpiece to slide into and grab
|your ear. Repeat for the other side. 

Thanks for all the tips.  I dug out an older pair of glasses,
with straighter earpieces, and tried this technique.  I now own
a Shoei RF-200 helmet that does the right thing.

Helmet down.  Midway through the MSF course.  Learner's permit,
jacket, and first bike to go.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com       C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"The news.* weenies should no more be in charge of the net than the
printers at a newspaper should decide its editorial content." R. Sexton
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang)
Subject: Re: DoD Key Fob Ordering Information
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:33:52 GMT

Dear Arnie,

When is the deadline?


--
      Ka Lun  Pang (a.k.a. Andy) - Lost between frequency and time
                      email: klp@doe.carleton.ca 
                               DoD# 0687
                       "I need a vacation"--T2
From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stolen .sig
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:41:20 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <1992Sep4.184036.23501@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>
>Here's to involuntary celibacy
>
>-- 
>I hate the 3B2
>The 3B2 can bite me.

Been there. Done that. HATED IT.

--
I want the babe.
The babe doesn't know I exist.

-- 
 .--------------------------------------------------------------------------.
/ Lyle J \ lestat@wixer.cactus.org /  Team Doofus  \ DoD / Nobody else WANTS \
\ Mackey /     Social Engineer     \ '89 Kaw EX500 / 587 \  my  opinions...  /
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: stupid people
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:17:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.153110.13968@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes:
>In article <BuAFtu.JM6@wpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>>I was just riding when this Mustang 5.0 came behind me and started 
>>reving his engine, so I took it he wanted to race me, so I smoked him!
>>I have a Ex500 and I know it is not a big/very fast bike, but come on.  I
>>can beat a car anytime.
>
>I have the same bike, and I get these yo-yo's all the time.

I don't have the same bike, but these yo-yo's are everywhere.  Two kids
in a Buick Century wanted to race me last night as I was driving in my old
Chevy Cavalier.  We went throught the whole ritual: sideways glances out
the window, with an occasional smug sneer, revving the engine up near
redline, inching forward when the cross light went yellow, etc.  The light
turned green, the Buick peeled out and I turned right.

I often wonder, whose stupider, the guy with the bad-ass car who
challenges a motorcycle to a race or the motorcyclists who accepts
the challenge?

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"I just found out that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true,
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS."
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Olympic Bikers?
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:03:40 GMT

In article <6468@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>
>   I'm sure most of you have seen the guys on BMWs riding around with
>maniac camarmen hanging off the back as they follow the marathon runners
>or bicycle racers.  So, how do I get a job driving one of those BMWs?
>Can I sign up for a school on the back of a matchbook or something?
>Inquiring minds want to know.

Try asking your local BMW club.  Here in California, the BMW clubs
do support for bike races, and other kinds.  It helps if you have
some experience in the sport that you want to ride support for.
That way you'll be better at reading the race and staying out
of the racer's way while still looking out for their safety.

The motorcyclists who ferry camera people around (at least in bike races)
are all experienced bike racers themselves- they need to be used to
riding in a pack, rubbing elbows with the racers.  It's pretty
sad when a camera bike takes a racer down...
But there's also a need for support motorcycles to ride in front
of the pack of racers, to get cars/dogs/people off the road before
the pack gets there.  Lack of bike racing experience isn't as much
of a problem in that position.


In case you're wondering what it's like to ride support for
a bicycle race, it's lots of boring 20-25mph riding, punctuated by
screaming down every descent as fast as you know how so you don't
get caught by the pack.  You also get to blast through the start/finish
zone with your thumb mashing down the horn button, using the
Fiamms to blast errant pedestrians out of the way before they get
nailed by 40 or 50 madly sprinting riders.  Oh, and you have to
get up at 3 am to ride to wherever the race is, usually way out
in the middle of no where and starting at 8 am.  If that's your
idea of fun, go for it.


--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mick@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: where does the oil go?
Reply-To: mick@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:45:38 GMT




	a question again to people out there!

	i ride a gs500e (suzuki) which rides great, but seems to eat up
	oil faster than i can fill it! i have had to change oil just about
	every 1000 miles (at 2000, 3000 and 4000) though my manual says
	2000, 4000, ... is the way to go. now at 5000-odd miles i find the
	oil is not only low but pretty dirty. last time i took the bike to
	the dealer he changed the oil filter and checked it out for me, but
	couldnt think of any reason for it! there is no visible oil leakage
	nor is there a smoke cloud trailing after me!

	so where does the oil go???

	thanks for all responses,

	- ravi

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:16:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.160916.22051@socrates.umd.edu> rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell) writes:
>Help me out here. A friend of mine has been debating with his girlfriend
>the merits of a motorcycle over those of a moped for his new mode of
>transportation. He is moving to LA and will be commuting to UCLA from
>the somewhere between there and San Diego. The basic argument so far is:
>
>Girlfriend: Mopeds are cheaper and some go 60 MPH
>Friend: Mopeds are dangerous on the highway.
>Girlfriend: You can take back-roads
>...
>
>The more opinions/facts I can support him with, the more likely he will be
>able to defeat her in this debate and by him a new mount! 
>
>Oh, and by the way. Neither of them has ridden a motorcycle before.
>

I assume he has his vasectomy all lined up?
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: etwe0201@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Kennung Fak. ET Inst. 2)
Subject: help for Aermacchi SST 250 needed
Summary: chain and chain-wheels for Aermacchi SST250
Keywords: Spareparts
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:23:21 GMT

Hi

Does anybody drive an Aermacchi SST 250?
(supposed do be an Italien licenced rebuild of an Harley Davidson)
I'm looking for a source, for spareparts here in GERMANY( if possib.),
or Europe. What I need badly is a chain and the chain-wheels(front+rear).
Any help or hint is welcome.


Looking also for people who drive this motorcycle, to exchanche experiences
whith driving /repairing

Bye

Sorry for my bad English.
Please MAIL to ADDRESS below!!!
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* A computer will do what you TELL it to do - not what you WANT it to do     *

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walter@lkn.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
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From: parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RCR rider seeking employment
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:23:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI

In article <6724@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, ranck@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
> The Dougster (parker@gdls.UUCP) wrote:
> :<stuff deleted> 

>   So, you don't actually expect to ever get a job. 

Yes, I do. But I've also found the sign is a great way to meet
young girls^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H middle-aged, experienced, female
motorcycle riders.

Douglas
--
Reply-To: gdls!parker@ilium.troy.msen.com
DoD #1961    BMWMOA    Renting N56136
--
A dress is nothing but pants with one pantleg.
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A question.
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:56:17 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia


   When I was first getting into riding I had the same problem as your
friend...My riding partner had ridden continuously since childhood, while I
hadn't ridden in 10 years.  We both had a craving for speed, but I got a little
nervous pushing corners, even though my bike could handle far better.  (His 
H2 wasn't frightening to watch!)  We usually compromised:  He wanted me along
for the riding, so he'd slow up so I could keep with him (what's the fun of
group riding without your partners?) but on the fun sections he'd blaze and
let me pick my own pace (what's the fun of twisties if you have to putt along
at newbie pace?).

   Ultimately, it was up to *me* to pick *my* pace.  I pushed (and fell because
of it) but I knew that I was to blame.  The bike could handle it, the road 
wasn't great, but I didn't know how to react when the rear started sliding...

   Just like any accident, the rider has to be willing to take the blame for
the accident.  If I'd have blamed my riding buddy for pushing *my* pace, I
wouldn't have made any effort to figure out what *I* did wrong and correct it.

   If you think there is a problem, just talk it out before the next ride.

   BTW, any newbies want to ride with my?  Now that I got my new GSXR1100, I 
need to shake off some of the humiliation that H2 gave me?  :-)  

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:30920 rec.nude:4357
From: jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Call for votes - rec.motorcycles.nude
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:08:06 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: jevans@Apple.COM's message of 8 Sep 92 22:34:36 GMT

In article <72169@apple.Apple.COM> jevans@Apple.COM (David Jevans) writes:
>	   - Confessions from the L.A. underground:
>		   "Twice the speed limit sans leathers... on an FJ!"

	As Buck put it so well, The Hell with social responsibility,
				and RAM the throttle against the stop.

    I think it was more than twice, but I wasn't watching the speedo :^)

	JD
From: starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 92 CBR600F2 for sale
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:27:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <7B39mB3w164w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> arnold@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Arnold) writes:
>Looking for some advice on modifying my 92 F2. I would like to put
>a custom exhaust and a jet kit on it in the near future. Can anyone
>suggest a good brand for each?
> 
>I am looking for added power without shattering windows as I ride by...
> 
>arnold
> 
>post here or mail me ARNOLD@SALZO.CARY.NC.US


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Subject: Re: Hyperthyroid. What are the symptoms?????
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Must sell 87 CBR 600f NOW, make offer !!!
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: SUZUKI GS550ES (full fairing)
Summary: 
Expires: 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 92 CBR600F2 for sale
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
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Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Keywords: 

In article <Bu9uM7.1Iu@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>In article <u0HoqB3w165w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> arnold@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Arnold) writes:
>>For Sale:
>>1992 Honda CBR600F2 Motorcycle
>    [ Stuff Deleted ]
>>Asking $6200 for all
>
>Even with the accessories, it seems kind of high priced, considering I just paid $5K 
>for a brand-new 92 CBR. Must be because it's the red/white one rather than the
>squidly black/pink/purple one... :-)

I just paid $4950 for my 92 and it is black/pink/purple.

-Alan Waterman (CBR600F2LN)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 92 CBR600F2 for sale
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Keywords: 

In article <Bu9uM7.1Iu@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
:In article <u0HoqB3w165w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> arnold@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Arnold) writes:
:>For Sale:
:>1992 Honda CBR600F2 Motorcycle
:    [ Stuff Deleted ]
:>Asking $6200 for all
:
:Even with the accessories, it seems kind of high priced, considering I just paid $5K 
:for a brand-new 92 CBR. Must be because it's the red/white one rather than the
:squidly black/pink/purple one... :-)

I just paid $4950 for my 92 and it is black/pink/purple.

-Alan Waterman (CBR600F2LN)
From: bhendrix@ledge.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Brian Hendrix)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 21:59:46 MDT
Organization: Private Waffle 1.65

My least favourite road sign has to be the one that say something to the
effect of:
 
        "Police Ahead -- Prepare to Stop"

That's the one you see when you've been zipping along and are lucky 
enough to be clocked by the extremely sneaky police airplane.  A 
kilometre or two after the clocking-zone ends they set up a big 
road-block.

BTW, has anyone heard of a LADAR ticket being beaten?  I just got one the 
other day.  86 in a 60 zone = $102.    :-(

Brian Hendrix:    bhendrix@ledge.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca    :Private Waffle 1.65
    DoD# 0754:          Please note new address!         :Edmonton, AB Canada
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Held gloves (was motorcycle song)
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:40:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Sep3.204601.28241@sei.cmu.edu>, dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel
Bidwa) wrote:
> 
> ObMoto: Anyone know a mail order place that carries Held gloves? How does
> Held's sizing run?

Call Helimot European Accessories in San Jose, CA -- 408 298-9608. I
believe
they are the distributors.

Helmut will assist you with sizing. He's a great guy.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========