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From: Gerry.Mulvenna@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Gerry Mulvenna)
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies: who is Brian Wilson
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:47:20 GMT

In article <VAISEY.92Sep9113849@jacobi.sfu.ca> vaisey@cs.sfu.ca (Jacques Vaisey) writes:
>Does anyone out there know who Brian Wilson is in the song on
>the Barenaked Ladies' new album (Gordon)?
>
>Are we supposed to know, or is it perhaps a name that they made up
>in order to add mystery?
>-- 
>Jacques Vaisey              |     email -> vaisey@cs.sfu.ca

Is he perhaps the Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys?

There is also a Scottish Member of Parliament called Brian Wilson.

There is also a general surgeon in Belfast called Brianxn Wilson ... :-)

Gerry Mulvenna
(osg1688@v2.qub.ac.uk)
Belfast, Ireland
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From: grahama@bnr.ca (Graham Ashby)
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:31:21 GMT

And then there's the song by the british duo of a few years back, Michael
Flanders and Donald Swan, who did a song about the laws of thermodynamics..

   "...You cant pass heat from the cooler to the hotter,
      You can try it if you like but you'd far better notter.."

-----
Graham Ashby   grahama@bnr.ca

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From: sorsha@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner)
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:41:44 GMT

Some must-have songs about math are "New Math" and "Lobachevsky", both by  
Tom Lehrer.  You can find his stuff in any music store, and you can also 
find "Too Many Songs by Tom Lehrer" in bookstores, though you may have
to order it.  Also check out "The Elements" which he also wrote and set
to the music of "I Am A Major General" from _HMS Pinafore_.


The Giver Goddess
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From: rjw@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Robert Wilson)
Subject: Folk festival near Rochester, NY
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 20:07:27 GMT

THE GOLDEN LINK FOLK FESTIVAL
Sept 11, 4:00 pm - Sept 13th, 6:00 pm
Marcus Park, Honeoye Falls, NY (Western NY, near Rochester)

With
	John Roberts and Tony Barrrand
	Lou and Peter Berryman
	Fred Small
	Trout Fishing in America
	Joan Crane
	Anne Lederman and Lake

Plus
	Workshops
	Contra dancing
	Campfire sing-arounds
	Jam sessions

Free camping ("rustic": no hookups)

Directions
    From I390 - take exit 11 ("Rush"), follow Rte. 251 E.
	You will PASS the intersection with Rte. 65 (Clover St.),
	and go only 1/10 of a mile, and turn right onto
	Quaker Meeting House Road.  Go down that for a mile,
	and look for Marcus Park on the right.

    From I90 Eastbound - Take exit 46, go south on I390,
	and follow the directions above.

    From I90 Westbound - Take exit 45, go south on Rte 96 for
	2 miles, turn right onto Rte. 251 W.  Go through Mendon,
	and take a left onto Quaker Meeting House Road.

	If you hit Rte. 65 you've gone to far, but only by 1/10
	of a mile, so turn around, and you'll hit it soon.

No Pets, no Alcohol.

Prices
	AW = "All Weekend"
	FN = "Friday Night"
	SD = "Saturday Day only"
	SA = "Saturday Day and Night"
	SN = "Saturday Night only"
	SU = "Sunday"

When:		AW     FN     SD     SA     SN     SU
Adult
  Member:      $25    $10     $9    $17    $10     $7
  Non-Member:  $35    $11    $10    $19    $11     $8
Child (3-14 yrs.  <3, gets in free)
  Member:       $7     $4     $4     $6     $4     $4
  Non-member:  $10     $5     $5     $7     $5     $5

Write with any questions.

-Robert
 rjw@cvs.rochester.edu
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help a novice folkie!
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:30:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <92091011349@zone4.ocunix.on.ca>, peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel) writes:
> 
> Here is my problem: I am an 18 year old student who has just completely fallen
> for traditional Celtic music, and wants to take up an instrument so that I
> attempt to play my favourite music on my own...
> 
> I'd like to hear some recommendations on what a good instrument for a starving
> student whose only previous musical experience is three guitar lessons and
> a brief stint playing rock drums.

Try the pennywhistle. Fits *any* budget, is the most transportable instrument
imaginable, and is a whole lot easier than almost anything
(though obviously it takes work to get really good).

Good luck!

Richard
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From: eab@exile.b17a.ingr.com (Edward Baggott)
Subject: Re: PP&M - "Le Deserteur"?
Keywords: Peter Paul Mary Deserteur lyrics
Reply-To: eab@exile.b17a.ingr.com (Edward Baggott)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:14:57 GMT

--
I remember *Sing Out* printing an English tranlation of this song way, way
long ago, shortly after PPM came out with their live double album, but I
am unable to tell you which Volume/Number it is.  Sorry.

The song was written as a war protest song against France's involvement
in the war in Algeria.

*------------------------------------------------------------------* 
|  Edward Baggott                                                  |
|  eab@geneab.b20.ingr.com         * NON ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM *  |
|                                                                  |
*------------------------------------------------------------------* 
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Mutant Viola?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:41:22 GMT

In article <14529@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>I seemed to recall that David Grisman played something called a Mandocello.
>I've never seen one of the these but at least the name *sounds* right.

A mandocello is actually a large mandolin. They're also known as
citterns or bouzoukis (there may be some differences between the 
real greek bouzoukis and the ones Irish musicians use, though). 
Theres also something in between called a mandola.

I did hear of a string quartet composed of two mandolins, a mandola
and a mandocello a while back.. they played stuff meant for a re-
gular string quartet.




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From: wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Subject: Re: Solomon Grundy
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Distribution: USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:08:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.114149.2188@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep7.194057.22932@wl.com>, dudleyd@wl.com (Dave Dudley) writes...
>>I'm wondering if anyone has some insight to the reference
>>to "Solomon Grundy" in _Superman's Song_ by Brad Roberts (found on
>>The Ghosts that Haunt Me by the Crash Test Dummies).
>> 
>>Having fallen behind on my reading of Superman comics, I at first 
>>thought this might be a character from there.  However, I recently
>>ran across a nusery rhyme about Solomon Grundy.  Is there any historical
>>basis to this character?
>
>Yes, there is but I forget!  Anyway, the name was used for a grotesque
>white-faced monster character that appeared in comics back in the 40s, thus the
>Superman reference in the song.
>
>What does the rest of that album sound like, anyway?  I really like that one
>song.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When Crash Test Dummies were interviewed on World Cafe, they mentioned
the nursery rhyme as well as the Superman character.

The entire album is quite good.
============================================================================
Bill Pringle                      Software Tools
Paramax Corporation               Voice: (215)443-7500 X4023
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Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:6109 alt.guitar.tab:2162
From: putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz)
Organization: Xerox PARC

[This is a second attempt to post this to rec.music.folk (my first
attempt apparently did not make it out), and I'm also expanding it to
alt.guitar.tab as well]

I've recently discovered the guitar and lyrics archives on
ftp.nevada.edu and ftp.uwp.edu.  That motivated me to dig out my 150
song files and submit them to the archives.

However there are several songs for which I do not know or am not sure
of the author.  I'd like to credit them correctly.  Several are probably
"traditional".  I have included first lines and in some cases an artist
who performs it.

Please email me (or post if that's easier) if you know who wrote any of
the following songs:

Acres of Clams
	(I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
All-e-Oxen Free
	(Time to let the rain fall...) [Kingston Trio? John Denver?]
Battle of New Orleans
	(In 1814 we took a little trip...)
Don't Go Down to the Quarry
	(...in the middle of the night...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
Eddystone Light
	(My father was the keeper of the...) [Kingston Trio?]
Everyday
	(...its a getting closer...) [Reilly & Maloney; James Taylor]
Green, Green
	(...it's green they say on the far side of the hill...) [Kingston Trio?]
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
	(Where have you been my blue-eyed son?) [Pete Seeger; Bob Dylan?]
How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away
	(I've talked to your mother I've talked to your dad...)
I'm My Own Grandpa
	(It was many many years ago when I was 23...)
Jamaica Farewell
	(Down the way where the night's are gay...)
Jim Dog
	(Every time I go downtown, somebody kicks my dog around...)
Lemon Tree
	(...very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
Maria
	(Way out west the have a name for rain and wind and fire...)
Music Speaks Louder than Words
	(...it's the only thing that...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
There Ain't No Mountains in the State of Kansas
	(...there ain't no catfish in the desert sands...) [Reilly & Maloney]
Once I Had a Sweetheart
	(...and now I have none...)
Portland Town
	(I was born in Portland Town...) [Joan Baez]
Spanish Pipe Dream
	(She was a level headed dancer on the road to alcohol...) [Steve Seskin]
Such Is Love
	(After all I've come to know me...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
Today
	(Today while the blossoms still cling to the vine...)
We'll Sing in the Sunshine
	(...we'll laugh every day...)
Who Killed Davy More
	(...how come he died and what's the reason for...) [Pete Seeger]
Will the Circle be Unbroken
	(I was standing by my window...)
Would You Like To Learn to Dance?
	(...well I can show you how...) [Mary Travers]
Wounded Bird
	(I watched you go through changes...) [Steve Seskin]
Wynken, Blynken and Nod
	(...one night sailed off in a wooden shoe...)

-- 
Steve Putz <putz@parc.xerox.com>
Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
Palo Alto, California
From: marchany@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Randy Marchany)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: No Strings Attached: September Festival Schedule
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:04:14 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


No Strings Attached, an eclectic, entertaining quartet with the
following instruments: hammer dulcimers, bouzouki, mandolin, bass,
harmonica, flute, percussion, synths, bass clarinet, bass saxophone,
slinky, guitar and MIDI hammer dulcimer controller, will be at the
following festivals this month (September).

	9/11-13/92 - Upper Potomac Dulcimer Festival, Shepherdstown, WV
		     (with Helicon)
	9/17-20/92 - Walnut Valley Festival, Winfield, KS
		     (with Mike Cross, John McCutcheon, Special
		     Consensus, Beppe Gambetta, Dixie Chicks, Colcannon,
		     and many others)
	9/24-26/92 - Memphis Dulcimer Festival, Memphis, TN
		     (with David Schnauffer)

No Strings Attached, Helicon and Special Consensus are Turquoise
recording artists and between them have won numerous "INDIE" awards from
the Nat. Assoc. of Independent Record Distributors (NAIRD) for their
works.
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From: jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin)
Subject: Re: looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: AT&T IMS - Piscataway, NJ (USA)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:22:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.024939.9081@rock.concert.net> barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.231358.16022@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>>I've recently discovered the guitar and lyrics archives on
>>ftp.nevada.edu and ftp.uwp.edu.  That motivated me to dig out my 150
>>song files and submit them to the archives.
>
>
>>Will the Circle be Unbroken	(I was standing by my window...)
>
>On my "Circle" album, I notice the song was written by one A.P. Carter.
>
>Does anybody know what the A.P. stands for?  This person also wrote
>"Little Darlin', Pal of Mine" (which is my Scruggs 5-String Banjo
>Book).
>
>Scott
>

I believe that "A.P." stands for "Alvin Pleasant."  If it's really important
I can check; I've got about 20 different Carter Family records, and it's
bound to be on one of them.  I also agree with another poster - The Carter
Family claimed authorship of lots of songs that were around long before they
started singing them.

-- 
Jim Dalin            "No Salga Afuera"  
AT&T                    N.Y.C.T.A.
ATTMail id: !jdalin            
Compuserve: 72260,1573 
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Subject: Re: Mutant Viola?
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:48:53 GMT

In article <21842@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
(Theron Friedman) writes:
> By the way, Bob: what does the thing sound like? Regular fiddle, hardanger,
> gadulka - what's the tone quality?

It sounds like a viola, with reasonably warm, rich tones from the C, G,
and D strings.  The A string is very buzzy, sounds almost like an oboe.

When I adroitly knocked the sound post over, both the A and D strings
had this buzzy quality, but once the sound post got put back in place,
the D resumed sounding like a viola and the A continued to sound, well, nasal.

I have a set of viola strings back-ordered (from a mail-order house
which shall remain nameless, but which is well-known for taking FOREVER
to fill string back orders).  When they arrive, I'll start out by adding
them to the strings that are already installed, so I can get an idea of
what it's like with the double sets.  Then I'll probably take off the
existing A string--maybe its wretched and markedly different tone stems
from that string being more worn-out than the others?

I don't know what a gadulka or a hardanger sounds like, since I've never
actually seen or heard either of them.  I'm just a simple Irish fiddler.

By the way, I got the pictures you sent me, thankee!  None of them
really match what I have exactly, but if it's somebody's clumsy modern
attempt to build an instrument they'd never actually seen an example of,
who knows what the builder might have intended?

---------

A fanatic is someone who does what he knows that God would do if God knew the
facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
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From: young@blitz.larc.nasa.gov (David Young)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Reply-To: young@blitz.larc.nasa.gov (David Young)
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:44:44 GMT

 
> How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away
> 	(I've talked to your mother I've talked to your dad...)

This appears on the Dan Hicks album "Original Recordings"

I 'm fairly sure that he wrote it.

David Young
Hampton, VA
young@blitz.larc.nasa.gov
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From: pemantle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Robin Pemantle)
Subject: funny math and physics songs
Summary: help me locate these songs
Keywords: math physics
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:05:58 GMT


I'm trying to locate some funny songs about math and physics -- in
particular the quantum version of Joni Mitchell's "Clouds" and 
the version of the song from Pinafore that goes, "... and now I am 
the Holder of a Ph.D."  I saw these once posted on an office
door at MIT but they are no longer there.  If anyone knows these or
or has pointers to them, could you please reply to:
pemantle@math.wisc.edu?  Thanks.    --  Robin Pemantle
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:48:26 EDT
From: Mel DeYoung <EUA@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Good sound at Philly Folk Festival

Since this was my first Philly folk festival, I don't have anything
to compare it to, but for what my opinion's worth, I was pleased
with the sound.  Close to the stage the sound wasn't overwhelming,
up the hill you could still hear pretty well.

As far as the music goes, the quality was high, although I wasn't
expecting such electric blues.  And the Gospel stuff from the Fairfield
Four didn't excite my.   I know it's worthwhile to have a wide range,
but the blues especially was out of the folk  range.  (and I like
hard-hitting blues)

Mel
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:35:54 GMT

In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>, terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
|> 
|>    I'm My Own Grandpa
|> 	   (It was many many years ago when I was 23...)
|> Latham and Jaffe.,  I don't know who they are, but that's the credit
|> given on the Muppet's "Silly Songs" LP.

The only version I've ever heard was recorded by Lonzo & Oscar.
Maybe Latham and Jaffe are their real names?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:40:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.164144.20709@wam.umd.edu> sorsha@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner) writes:
>Some must-have songs about math are "New Math" and "Lobachevsky", both by  
>Tom Lehrer.


Hee hee hee...

"Plagiarize! 
Why do you think God gave you eyes!
So plagiarize! Plagaiarize..

Now am I tell you how...."



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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Cheryl Wheeler
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:49:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.195016.20712@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
|tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies) writes:
|> 
|> I believe "Summerfly" is on CW's second album, Half a Book.
|> 
|> IMHO, Maura O'Connell has a nice voice, but turns Summerfly
|> from lyrical to lethargic.  Maybe it was her producer's fault?

Since I haven't heard Cheryl`s version of Summerfly I can't compare it
although while I feel the beginning of O'Connells version sounds a bit
lethargic in the begining it seems to pick up emotionally as it progresses.
I find that progression to be a real hook.


|I first heard "Summerfly" done by Maura O'Connell live on "Best of Mountain
|Stage Vol. 2."  The instrumentation is awesome (the dobro is a wonderful) 
|compared to Cheryl's original recording on "Half a Book".
 
It's no suprise the instrumentation on "Helpless Heart" is awesome 
considering the caliber of the players:  Bela Fleck, Mark O'Conner,
Bob Matar, Jerry Douglas; all world class musicians.

When I first listened to the album I didn't like the opening cut "Can't
stop the Girl".  It has since grown on me.  The instrumental breaks with
Fleck on Banjo, O'Conner on guitar, and the flute and Uilleann Pipes are
*tight*.  The instrumentation on this album carries any lethargy it
might seem to have.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
From: coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: John Gorka: Temporary Road
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:54:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.124500.470@trintex.uucp>, neverisk@trintex.uucp (Mike Neverisky) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep8.234741.14099@mips2.ma30.bull.com> ddean@granite.ma30.bull.com (Douglas J. DeAngelis) writes:
|> >
|> >John Gorka really needs to learn how to play the guitar.
|> >
|> >But to think of some of
|> >the truly well rounded performers that people pass over just so they
|> >can go hog wild over John Gorka is stunning.  Try Brooks Williams, Patti 
|> >Larkin, David Massengil, Richard Shindell, blah, blah, blah.  
|> 
|> 	My collection contains recordings of all these folks!  I agree with
|> 	your "well rounded" assessment: Brooks is a hot picker, especially
|> 	evident in live performance, and an author of some well crafted
|> 	songs.  But, for my $12-$15, Gorka's guitar playing doesn't bother
|> 	me.  Let's face it - John Gorka's appeal is his wordplay skill and
|> 	an intriguing voice - the timbre of which adds a unique kind of
|> 	emotional subtext to his lyric.  

I agree with Mike here - Gorka's guitar work isn't his strong point,
but I would suggest that you both be careful to not confuse lack of
flash with lack of technique. As a case in point, consider Bill
Morrissey. He deliberately keeps his guitar work in the background,
but if you listen to it really carefully, you discover that a) it's
much more complex and clean than you might have expected, b) what he
does is deigned to enhance the lyric and melody rather than to frame
them or set them off, and c) he's masterd a stunning variety of styles,
tricks, and techniques to get just the sound he wants. From the times
I've seen Gorka perform live, I would place him in the same general 
category - he certainly can play many things I can't, and I've been
playing for more than 25 years. (well, OK so that says something about
why I'm still a software engineer as well as saying something about
Gorka :^).

Minor nit - unless he's grossly improved in the past eight years, I 
wouldn't put David Massengil in the same territory - I found him a
very pedestrian and ordinary guitarist. His dulcimer playing, on
the other hand, was strikingly original. Maybe on his Shanachie
release, which I've not been able to find anywhere here in the
Bay area...?

Don Coolidge
coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com