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From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Plugging in floppy on PB100 while asleep. Will it do damage?
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:17:09 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Here's a question that should be easy to answer: Can I plug in (and 
unplug) my floppy drive on my PowerBook 100 while it is ASLEEP?  How
about  plugging in ADB devices while it is asleep?

Are there potential problems here?

I know that plugging the floppy in while it is on can be very BAD, 
but sleep seems more like its OFF state.

E-MAIL direct, please.

			Jon Temple
			Dept. of Psychology
			University of Cincinnati

			TEMPLE@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
From: janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Help for SCSI Device Problem
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:54:41 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <6919@gemini.cs.nps.navy.mil> kuechenm@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
writes:
>
>	Here's the problem. I got an internal Apple HD SC 20. The drive works
>fine when I use it in my LCII, so I know that the formatting isn't a problem.
>The trouble comes when I try to put it in an old external case that used to
>house a 5 1/4 in hard drive. The power and SCSI connections seem to match and
>the wires are all continuous, but when I put the 3 1/2 drive into the case and
>try to get the whole thing to work, it won't. SCSI Probe won't find any
devices
>connected to the bus and reports SCSI Bus unterminated even though I have a 
>terminator on the unused SCSI plug of the external case.
>	Any suggestions on what to check or try next would be appreciated via
>e-mail, rather than posts. Especially, I'm interested in how to change the
SCSI
>address on the drive. I suspect that it involves changing the jumpers on the 
>controller board, but I'm not certain.
>	Thanks for any assistance rendered,
>Dave Kuechenmeister
>kuechenm@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
>

I would guess that the problem is the SCSI ID. An internal drive is always
set to ID=0 by the system. If you put this drive into an external case
without correctly connecting the SCSI selector it will still have ID=0. Does
your external box have a SCSI ID selector at the back of the case and is it
correctly connected ?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: thomasj@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (thomas jeffrey w)
Subject: APPLE NOT HONORING THE WARRANTY
Summary: APPLE NOT HONORING THE WARRANTY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:32:22 GMT

has anyone had trouble with apple not honoring their warranty?
Were you forced to sign a non-disclosure statement to get
a replacement.

Also any problems out there with 13'' RGB HIgh res. monitors?

any info would be appreciated .  Thanks


jeff

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: IIcx upgrade advice needed
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:45:37 GMT

In article <1270@fozzy.UUCP> hendrick@fozzy.UUCP (Bill Hendricks) writes:
>
>My opinion and selected avenue (I'm also upgrading a IIcx):
>
>Get the DayStar '50 now, and upgrade for $99 to the
>68040 (33Mhz(?)) early next year when it comes out.


Unfortunately, that deal ended on November 1.  You can still upgrade,
of course, but you have to pay the full difference in price between    
the two.  That works out to $399 for an upgrade from the PowerCache
50/50 (with FPU) to the 33mhz Turbo '040, or $699 if you upgrade from 
the PowerCache 50 (no FPU) to the Turbo '040.


While I'm at it, I should mention that the PowerCache adaptors for the SE 
and Classic II have been delayed some more, and the SE/30-specific
PowerCaches should start shipping Real Soon Now.

--
Steve Kanefsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: oh@himalaya.gatech.edu (Yong-Chul Oh)
Subject: DirectDrive 80 by Jasmine is dead !!! 
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:07:07 GMT

Suddenly 80 Mb Jasmine drive does not mount at all.
Anybody experienced a similar problem?
OH, Yong-Chul
College of Computing
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
oh@cc.gatech.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: IIcx upgrade advice needed
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:52:55 GMT

In <werner-061192142144@128.32.157.31> werner@soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner) writes:

>I'm finally thinking of upgrading my ancient IIcx at home, and I need some
>advice on how to do it.  I'm a developer, so compatibility is important; I
>tend to use the latest (or even prerelease) system software and development
>tools.  I can think of three possible ways to upgrade it:

>1) Quadra 700 upgrade from Apple
>   Pros: Fast.  68040.  Compatible.  Nice fast onboard video.
>   Cons: EXPENSIVE!  At UC's prices, it's about $2900.  Developer price is
>         about $2500.

This is only a hunch, but I suspect that when the IIci is eliminated and
Apple starts putting out cheaper '040 machines, this upgrade might take a
drop in price.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Petar E Puskarich)
Subject: Where can I find a Copy of ONTRACKS' Hd Manager Mac????
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:07:12 GMT



Like the title says.   I need a copy of OnTracks' HD Manager Mac???`

I am willing to trade this for possible some mac software or maybe
10 bucks or so.  I need this to reset my attention bit so I can use
my HD with a friends Mac PLUS!!!!!


Thanks,


Petar Puskarich
ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 - Multitasking
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:58:48 GMT
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <sharad.720933792@murlibobo> sharad@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Sharad)  
writes:
> I want to buy a Macintosh to run A/UX.  I understand that the Quadra 700
> is multitasking and should be able to handle unix.  My question is : 
> Does the Qudra 700 have DMA.  To the best of my knowledge it does not(I
> hope I am wrong).  If there is no DMA then I imagine that the multitasking
> performance will be stuffed.   Can someone please make a comment on this
> issue. 
> --
> sharad

	The Quadra 700 can indeed multi-task, and runs A/UX about as well as  
any of the other machines. It does not have direct memory access by the  
peripherals, so yes the performance is hampered. It's not terribly important to  
use a DMA controller unless your doing a very large amount of I/O. The  
effectiveness of using a DMA depends heavily on the manner in which it is  
implemented. For instance, the NeXT Turbo architecture which uses a ASIC  
(Application Specific Intergrated Curcuit) and DMA in sync with each other is  
wonderful, while many systems with DMAs don't use the potential provided by  
distributing this task. However, I highly suggest you use A/UX 3.0, because I  
think its an awful implementation of UNIX. Right now, the Macintosh as a UNIX  
workstation is not a very good computer. I hope that this will change with  
PowerPC. It is supposed to have a multi-threading SMP (Symmetric  
MultiProcessing) microkernel architecture, with UNIX in mind at the beginning  
(though not the primary OS).

P.S.	A/UX is also quite expensive (compared to it coming free and integrated  
	on almost all other workstation type computers. Check out the Sun  
	Tsunami which will be announced on November 10th. It will be RISC using  
	Solaris 2.0 and retail for under $6000. Though, I don't like the OS,  
	for UNIX it's a great deal from what I've heard.

--
Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu
Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
From: nagel@kithrup.Irvine.CA.US (Mark D. Nagel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: accessing SCSI tape drive as file
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:55:29 PDT
Reply-To: nagel@Kithrup.Irvine.CA.US
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

Recently I asked about how I could use a QIC-150 on my Mac and was
told to get Retrospect.  I did and it works great for backups and
archiving.  However, I would also like to use it to transfer files
to and from a Unix system using tapes made with tar.  Where can I
find documentation on the interface to SCSI tape devices such as the
QIC-150 so that I could even write a program to do it if I had to?
It doesn't seem like it should be that hard, but Retrospect requires
a special INIT (driver perhaps?) to even work with the tape device.

-------------------------------------
Mark Nagel <nagel@mdn.uucp>

If at first you don't succeed, that's pretty much it.
				-- SDI Design Team
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: IIvx TN
Summary: Is it legal / possible to mail the IIvx TN?
Keywords: IIvx, TN, DTS
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:48:35 GMT

    If it is legal (and I don't know if it is), could someone please
send me a BinHexed IIvx hardware TN? Apple, of course, makes the TN's
issued up to last fall available via anonymous ftp, but nothing more
recent. As a prospective buyer, I'd like to see the TN to clear up some
DRAM/VRAM issues.
    Thanks,
						Joe Gurman
--
J.B. Gurman / Solar Physics Branch / NASA Goddard Space Flight Center /
Greenbelt MD 20771 USA / gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov
| Federal employees are prohibited from holding opinions under the Hatch Act.|
| Therefore, any opinions expressed herein are somebody else's.              |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jmckee@world.std.com (Jim McKee)
Subject: Re: Quantum 105 LPS problems HELP!!
Summary: Invoke your Quantum 2 year warranty
Keywords: 105LPS, power
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:55:51 GMT

Dieder ...
  If the drive is only 3 months old, and it's already giving
significant signs of distress, I'd zip it back to the reseller
and have them honor the Quantum 2 year warranty. If it's a
reputable reseller, they should not give you any hassles about
giving you a new drive. Good luck

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jnowak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Nowak)
Subject: Re: PowerBooks - 210 v. 160 as Midrange champ
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:10:28 GMT

So if one can live without SCSI, sound out, and 2 serial ports for awhile or 
forever, you get the future expansion capabilities and other advantages you 
mention of the duo.
From: philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: new PowerBook modems?
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:29:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: shannon.1992Nov12.062919.16424
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Wits University
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:23:03 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

I haven't read this group for a while so I'm a bit out of touch.

The original Apple PowerBook modems had bad reviews on the net. Are the
new ones any better?
--
Philip Machanick
Computer Science Dept, Univ of the Witwatersrand, 2050 Wits, South Africa
philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za  phone: 27 (11) 716-3759  fax: 339-7965
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:21061 comp.sys.mac.wanted:10323
From: GFCARDINALE@poppy.ucdavis.edu (GEOGORY F. CARDINALE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Wanted:  Info on Mac Portable RAM
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:50:35 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Greetings.

I would like to know if the RAM (PSRAM, i.e. psuedo static RAM) that's 
used for upgrading PB's can be used for upgrading the Mac Portable.  If 
not, does anyone know where I can purchase RAM for the Portable?  I'm 
sure it doesn't take the standard SIMMs, but I'd like to find out who 
sells "Portable RAM" at a reasonable price (even if you know how much 
the RAM was prior to the recent Taiwan tarriffs, that would help me out).


Thanks.

Greg C.
gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: odreer@iiic.ethz.ch (Oliver Dreer)
Subject: CD Technology and PhotoCD
Originator: odreer@c13
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:51:57 GMT


I've got a CD Technology Porta Drive. However the existing
driver (version 1.4) doesn't seem to accept PhotoCD Discs.

I wonder if there is a newer version of their driver, 
that also works with PhotoCDs.
I know, that there will be a new driver from FBW, available
in December, but I think the people from CD Technology
should also try to improve their driver to the latest
technology.

Oliver Dreer
odreer@iiic.ethz.ch
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Zapping PRAM
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:52:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: hacgate.23896
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

In article 22955@mlb.semi.harris.com, epayne@su102p.ess.harris.com (Ed Payne) writes:
> Help,
> 	I have a friend who thinks his PRAM is messed up. [...]
> Can anyone remember the sequence or the program?  THANKS!!!!!!

If you are running system 7, then hold down COMMAND-OPTION-P-R while booting.
This will "Zap" your PRAM.

Chris Russell
Internet: crussell%samson.hac.com@hac2arpa.hac.com
GTE:      714/399-1620

PS: I will be leaving Hughes soon and need the address of a Usenet News server
    that I can tap off of from Internet using NNTP.  Can anyone provide some
    suggested sitenames on the network.  Any help is appreciated.  Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac Plus SCSI Weirdness
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 4 Nov 92 13:59:28 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

Does the Mac Plus have weird SCSI Termination?

We're trying to connect a big 600 Meg beast to a Mac Plus.  It's a HP hard  
drive, internally terminated (on the board).  The Plus won't recognize it,  
though any other machine we own *will*.

Any ideas?


--
Sean Luke
Brigham Young University                   MILK:  It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: simsh@crockett1c.its.rpi.edu (Chewbacca)
Subject: Speedometer weirdness
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:31:03 GMT

Hello everyone. I just noticed something weird using Speedometer 3.1 on my
IIsi.

When I load with all extensions off, it would report my CPU as 3.736
When I load with all extensions on, it would report my CPU as 5.492
Similarly, all other tests have greatly increased speed with all extensions on.

However, when I removed most extensions, except sys.7 tuneup, and rebooted that
way, it still showed as much slower.

I haven't been able to find which extension seemingly makes it so much faster.

Anyone know why this happens?

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Hillel Sims                        e-mail: simsh@rpi.edu
     >:-) The Smiling Vulcan            Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mroldan@agsm.ucla.edu (Malu Roldan)
Subject: pb170 problems
Summary: Survey to find out about pb170 problems
Keywords: pb170
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:00:40 PST

A few people, and postings, have suggested some problems with the
pb170.  I just purchased one and have not had any problems so far.  I
would like to know of the types of problems other users have had and
solutions, if any.  Just so I know what to expect.

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: streater@unixjr.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater)
Subject: Re: Mac Color Display (New Apple Monitor)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:35:26 GMT

In article <17.2afdf0b1@ivgate> neil.runyon@theboard.omahug.org writes:
>that seem odd to me.  First there is a very thin line about 3/4 down the
>screen.  I was told this is a wire and that it is not a problem. Can anyone
>confirn or deny this?  

This is a wire and is not a problem. My 13" trinitron tube has this, and my 
16" and 19" tubes at work have two each. It would be nice if it were not there
but that's the price of having a trinitron tube. The wire(s) hold(s) the shadow
grid in place.

tin.
From: craigw@fnal.fnal.gov (Craig Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hanging Q900 and IIg (not related)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 10 Nov 1992 14:44:03 GMT
Organization: Fermilab - Batavia, IL
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnpm02.fnal.gov

In article <craigw-091192100807@fnpm02.fnal.gov>, craigw@fnal.fnal.gov *I*
wrote:
> 
> Second, is our Laserwriter IIg. We keep getting postscript errors that hang
> printer. It is on appletalk only. Same documents print fine on our NTX.
> Both have same fonts installed, however, the NTX does have a HD. Sorry I
> can't be more specific here (haven't kept as good notes as the Q problem)
> Please let me know if you *know* anything, and I'll definately find out.
> 
Okay, I've got more specific info... the errors are

Invalidfont; offending command: show
  Undefined; offending command: get
Invalidfont; offending command: stringwidth

Theses errors are listed in the prinspooler server windows. The problem is
these jobs just sit there with the errors and never purge themseleves.

Any info appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gkm@cc.uow.edu.au (Glen K Moore)
Subject: What are pin connections for 512Ke to modem?
Summary: I have a mac 512. But cannot get the modem to respond. I am using
Keywords: Modem 512 cable
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 09:27:42 GMT

How does the modem cable differ from the printer cable for a Mac512-Modem?
My Apple dealer has given me several cables but none work. The one which 
the dealer calls a 'modem cable' operates the Imagewriter but not the modem.

I have a 25/9 pin cable ready to make up but which pins should I use?

I am using Microphone software and an Avtek 2400 modem.
Glen 
gkm@cc.uow.edu.au
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Quadras (and others) in Feb 1993
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:02:38 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:

>The new Quadras will be introduced on February, not January, 15,
>according to the latest MacWeek, and only one will be a Quadra.

    Yup, basically right after the MacWorld Expo, San Francisco just
like Apple usually does.

>MacWeek reports that Apple will introduce five new machines on
>February 15 -- a 25-MHz LC III with a 32-bit data bus, a color
>version of the Classic II, a Quadra 800, and two new Centris-
>series machines.

    There was a lot of talk when the Quadras came out that Apple was
never going to use the III designation after the Apple III debacle. Has
this sentiment changed?

>The Q800 is a 33-MHz '040 in a shorter version of the Q950
>tower. 3 Nubus slots, 1 PDS slot, builtin Ethernet, 16-bit
>graphics on 16-inch monitors and 8-bit on 21-inch monitors.

    I wonder if the Cyclone is going to use this box when it comes out? 

>According to the chart accompanying the article, the Q800 will 
>replace the Q700, the IIvx will replace the IIsi, the LC III
>will replace the LC II, while the fate of the IIci is uncertain.

     Uncertain? I though that it was obvious that the Centris 650 is the
replacement for the IIci...

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
		      "No sir, I didn't like it."
From: ggonzale@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gabriel Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Why overpay for Mac?
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:58:42 GMT
Organization: I.T.E.S.M. Campus Monterrey

I would recommend you a Mac because it's a MAC. No questions asked.
-- 

________________________________________________________________________________
CALVIN (Gabriel Gonzalez)      |     Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios
Internet:                      |          Superiores de Monterrey
ggonzale@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx   |       Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico. 
pl535556@academ01.mty.itesm.mx | 
al535556@academ01.mty.itesm.mx | "Why are we here? Because we're here"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: New HD in PowerBook = Asante En/Sc woes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:52:34 GMT

I just had a Quantum 80 meg GO HD put in my powerbook 100.  Now, when I hook it
into my Asante En/Sc ethernet adapter, the system will not boot unless I turn 
power to the En/Sc off (then back on before the Ethernet driver is loaded).  
The thing worked fine with the Connor 20 meg drive Apple put in the PowerBook.
Does this sound like maybe a termination problem?

bob
From: truher@netcom.com (Joel Burke Truher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RAM in Plus, SE, IIsi
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:49:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov10.064919.13376
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Sorry for the FAQ, but what is the trick to get a Plus and SE
to recognize 4 MB?  What SIMM is used in the IIsi?  It doesn't
recognize my 2MB SIMMs.  Thanks.

Joel
From: omh@cs.brown.edu (Owen M. Hartnett)
Subject: Re: MAC PLUS - reboots when floppy inserted.  HELP!  Advice?
Keywords: mac plus floppy reboot
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:19:32 GMT

In article <Nov07.020631.22876@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> baumgard@CS.ColoState.EDU (felix baumgardner) writes:
>
>
>Hello all.  My mac plus is experiencing a bizarre problem:
>
>All is well as long as I don't use a floppy drive.  
>However, when a floppy is inserted, the machine REBOOTS!  AAIGH!
>

Sounds like the voltage could be set too low.  If it is, then the drain from
thefloppy motor at surge spinup could be enough to bring down your system.

Adjust the voltage, test it with a digital multimeter so you know it's on
the money.  It should be as close to 5.00 volts as possible.  You can measure
the 5volts on the middle pin of the cable harness from the power supply to
the logic board.  It's easily adjusted (the plastic shield on the bottom
of the analog board indicates which indicator to turn).  Take the necessary
high voltage precautions with an open set.

-Owen


Owen Hartnett				omh@cs.brown.edu
"FAITH, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks
		without knowledge, of things without parallel."
			-Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: twj16@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Performa's monitor
Reply-To: twj16@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:01:34 GMT

Does anyone know whether the monitor that sell along
with Performa 400 or 600 can be used with other Mac.
I asked the person at Sears about it, and he said
yes, but I am not confident. Please anyone who
knew the answer confirm it. Thanks.

-nash-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware