From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Kashmir Solution is Self-determination (was Clinton/Gore '92??!!!!)
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:34:33 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <Bw76oD.7zz@ucunix.san.uc.edu> ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>In article <719077087@flounder.cs.duke.edu> azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>>In article <Bw334E.AKA@ucunix.san.uc.edu> ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>>
>>	   I am from Kashmir, which has no Indian part: An independent
>>country which is not just occupied, but terrorized by Indian
>>politicians in their voracity. I think Manoj Shaib, you are showing
>>your pro-Indian baises... why don't you ask the Kashmiris what they
>>want? 

>I asked you which part of Kashmir you are from, because you claim
>that the Indian forces are brutal. 

	   You classified Kashmir into two parts - Indian part and
Pakistani part. That in itself is presumptious, and required
clarification, that there is no *Indian part* - a brutally occipied
Indian part, yes, but NO Indian part. If that is clear, please read
on, otherwise I am sure your time is precious and so is mine. 

>I wanted to know if this knowledge is first hand or from hearsay?

	   The knoweldge is first hand. Some of my relatives are still in
Srinage, and what they tell me is hardly humane. If the Indian part of
Kashmir is so heavenly, why don't Indian politicians allow unbiased
international reporting in that area? Why no? Because even most Indian
citizens would object to the gross mistreatment of the Kashmiris.

>Obviously I am showing a pro Indian bias, are you not showing a pro
>Pakistani bais? 

	   No, I am not. If I am showing any bias, it is a pro-Kashmiri
bias. I bear no particular ill-will toward Indians, but despise
politicians, both Pakistani and Indians, who are fueled by personal
greed. Pakistani polticians have also contributed to the general
deterioration of Kashmir issue - yes Kahsmir ISSUE not PROBLEM - the
PROBLEM is not Kashmir, the PROBLEM is subcontinetal politicians.

>In kashimir India has lived upto its end of the bargain by
>not letting any outsiders to settle in Kashmir.  

	   I think Indian politicians have not even allowed Kashmiris to
settle in Kashmir - whaddyamean outsiders? :-)

>Once Pakistan withdraws from Kashmir the Kashmiris will be able to
>decide their future.  

	   Perhaps, it is not the politicians that are at fault... it is
the people who let them play the cat-mouse game. :-)

>In Delhi I have met a lot of Hindus who have
>been driven away from Kashmir and are now living in refugee camps.

	   There really is a marked difference between the way Pakistani
politicians have handled Pakistani side of "Azad Jammu and  Kashmir",
and the atrocities Indian politicians have supported in Indian
occupied. Pakistani politicians, like Indian politcians, have failed
to realize that the only solution to Kashmiri issue lies in
self-determination. Kashmir is not a bone of contention between Indian
and Pakistani politicians, even if they may bear canine tendencies. :-)

	   I think both Pakistanis and Indians are reasonably cosniderate
people, and it is their politicians that have fueled them with enough
propogande, so that even the most thoughtful people like Manoj Sahib,
ask such questions as......

>Is your Kashmir going to be the home of only muslims?

	   The question is not stupid, in fact is is perfectly natural
one that any gullible subcontinental will ask.


>Manoj

   Salman [dsqa-jna '92 :-)] Azhar


-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar