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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of Window NT
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:59:11 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: Microsoft, Window_NT, SLOW

In article <4118@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
> To quote Microsoft: "that's only because we have a lot of
> debuggng code in there.  The final production version will be
> at least twice as fast." (source: a speaker at the Win developers
> conference at the Moscone center a while back).  Now it's up to
> every one of us to either believe that or not.  The way I figure
> it is,  that either the above statement is true;  or Microsoft
> made _a_big_mistake_ putting too much clock-cycle hungry security
> and intelligence into NT;  making it an OS that only a 586/686
> PC can devour (or the Alpha,  which is totally ridicolous for
> a porting target;  but which _may_ and I stress _MAY_ be a way
> out of the DOS-nightmare).

The way out of the DOS nightmare has been selling pretty well since the end of
March.......1,200,000 copies and rising.
 
OS/2!
 
Why wait for NT? OS/2 does the job today. If you want a home LAN and
high-level security........well, with OS/2 you can buy them - today -
separately. 

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: andreww@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Williams)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 - almost, but not quite
Keywords: os's, windows, microstuff, bananas 
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:52:14 GMT


boltz@chopin.psu.edu (Mark Boltz) writes:

>Having used a copy of OS/2 2.0 (the final release) on a friend's 386DX-25, I
>must say that IBM has come a long way, but have some stuff to work out.  Even
>tho the machine had 8MB, it was almost constantly swapping stuff to disk when
>asked to do more than about 4 tasks at once.  (At least it has multi-tasking.)

I have it running on a 386-25, with 8Mb, with no excessive swapping.
What sort of tasks were you attempting?

>The biggest problem I have with this, aside from wear and tear, is the swap
>file created grows as applications are started, but won't shrink after closing
>them; rather only after shutdown.  Another small problem I noticed, that IBM

Fixed- long ago. It was one of the first bug-fixes to be released.

>should be correcting already from what I understand, is the incompatability withthe new Windows 3.1.  Some newer programs had real problems running in a
>OS/2 WIN window.  Plus, OS/2 being a 'protected' system (so one crash doesn't

Thats coming out with the 'fall' update. Whats more, it will STILL run
all of the stuff that breaks under 3.0 (like WinWord 1.0, for example),
plus all of the old win 2.x stuff. Better than microsoft managed!

>crash all the progs), you run into problems with programs that want to manage
>memory (like Windows in Extended mode).  The BOOT manager is nice, but does
>it really have to take up a whole 1MB of space?

It handles anything DPMI compliant. Windows was SUPPOSED to be-
Microsoft wrote the standard, and specified that DPMI servers were
supposed to 'ask' and see if a higher level server was giving THEM
memory before they grabbed everything. They ignored that when they wrote
windows- thats why IBM shipped an improved version of windows with OS/2.
(WinOS/2 also has a lot of the interapplication protection thats
Microsoft is making such a hoo-ha about in 3.1).
	The boot manager takes up 1Mb not because it is that large, but
because the new 'user friendly' FDISK program only allows partitions on
1Mb boundaries. Thats pretty silly, I will admit!

>And the video drivers (only available at the time was 600x320) suck.  Get some
>people to get some decent drivers for the popular graphics cards like the
>Diamond Stealth and Tseng ET4K.

	There ARE some ET4000, Trident, ATI, and other SVGA drivers out
now, allowing 1024x768x256, plus other flavours. I don't know about most
of them, but the et4000 ones are pretty slow. Nobody is too keen on
improving them right now, because the new 32 bit graphics engine is
coming out soon, and will allow 32 bit code in the drivers. IBM is
apparently shipping the update with generic SVGA drivers for most of the
major chipsets.

	Andrew Williams,
	Physics, Uni of Western Australia.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
From: mwgordon@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Gordon)
Subject: Re: Why do people want PD software?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:26:57 GMT

     Also, not many commercial programs let you return them if they don't work
out for you.  Not all of them say exactly how much memory/disk space/resources
they need to run or install.  You open them up and get burned by the 'shrink 
wrap contract'.  Why is it that the software industry is allowed to sell you
a product that you can't examine first, and then say 'you bought it, too bad if
it doesn't do what you want'?  Oh, I know, because all the nasty pirates would 
rip them off.  Gee, the pirates are killing them anyways, so why punish the 
honest customers?

Mike Gordon  99681084@uwwvax.uww.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 23:07:56 GMT

david matiskella writes
> > > Not to mention there's still nothing that beats QuickDraw in
> > > imaging model. (No, there isn't)
> > 
> > Yes there is.  Display PostScript.
> > 
> Well Display postscript on the Next is not exactly a speed
> demon in color. Unless of course you have one of those
> dimension boards with around 20 meg of ram.

No, its not a speed demon (but neither is it terribly slow).  But  
that's nothing that more powerful chips and more RAM won't cure.   
This is true of most things.
But if you're looking at an imaging _model_ then IMHO having  
on-screen exactly what will go to the printer is unbeatable.  Display  
PostScript gives you that.  Quickdraw does not.

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: millernw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Neal Miller)
Subject: GVC modem config for Telix wanted
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:36:05 GMT

	I just purchased a GVC internal 14.4K baud modem to replace my slow
(but faithful) 2400 baud Cardinal.  I also picked up the latest version of
Telix (3.15), mostly because I was told that it had a companion program
that was made for automatically configuring modems.  Sure enough, it does,
and it's a nice program indeed, except that there was only one GVC modem
listed, and it wasn't mine.  I've since downloaded TXMDM207 from wuarchives,
and this had about seven GVCs listed, ranging from 2400 baud to 9600 baud.
I can only assume that mine was fresh off the drawing board.  If anyone, 
especially the author of the program, reads this, could I ask that the 
GVC 14.4K be listed?  The model numbers are as follows:

FM-144HVbis (with FAX) 

SM-144HVbis (without FAX)

Many thanks,

--
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From: dove@pitt.edu (Daniel L Dove)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: BOOKS on software programing for NOVELL NETs
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:26:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: dove@unix.cis.pitt.edu


	Hello, I'm lookin for an introductory book on software programing using

Novell Networks. I know a little about NETs, and alot about C,Serial Comm. If

you know of any titles of good books please E-mail me.


		Thanks in Advance

			Dan Dare


			dove@unix.cis.pitt.edu
			dove@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: dakos@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Dennis Akos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Need Help Setting up Seagate Drive/CMOS
Keywords: Hard Drive, CMOS
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:15:36 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens


     I'm hoping someone can help me out here, well I just stuck in a
new Motherboard 386DX-20, to upgrade my 386SX-16. Anyways I stuck in
all my cards, started it up and I get a 'XCMOS checksum error'
so I go to set-up my CMOS (have 386-BIOS 1987 AMI) and it gives
me a choice of 47 hard drives, which did I have, I have no idea, since
I didn't check before swapping not sure I can now (no doc)

     It is a MFM Seagate ST-251 appx. 40 MB space, the CMOS ask for
one of the 47 types, if someone has this drive type and can tell me what
the following are, I'd greatly appreciate i




   Cyln  Head  WPcom  LZone  Sec  Size
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: Andrew Bros <bros@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 - almost, but not quite
Summary: patches available
Originator: bros@neptune.convex.com
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:46:47 GMT
Reply-To: bros@convex.COM (Andrew Bros)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX
Keywords: os's, windows, microstuff, bananas 
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <ec*vH**qe9@atlantis.psu.edu> boltz@chopin.psu.edu (Mark Boltz) writes:
>Having used a copy of OS/2 2.0 (the final release) on a friend's 386DX-25, I
>must say that IBM has come a long way, but have some stuff to work out.  Even
>tho the machine had 8MB, it was almost constantly swapping stuff to disk when
>asked to do more than about 4 tasks at once.  (At least it has multi-tasking.)
>The biggest problem I have with this, aside from wear and tear, is the swap
>file created grows as applications are started, but won't shrink after closing
>them; rather only after shutdown.

  There is a patch available via anonymous ftp for this problem.  You
can get it from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (128.123.35.151).  The directory is
/pub/os2/2.0/patches, and you should grab 00fixes.doc, which is a list
of the available patches, and os2krn.zoo, which should fix your
swapfile problem.

  IBM has also set up an anonymous ftp site on software.watson.ibm.com
(129.34.139.5) which has the latest fixes as well as some
employee-written OS/2 software.
-- 
Andrew Bros                             bros@convex.com
System Integration Group                Convex Computer Corporation
It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations,
if you live near him.  - JRR Tolkien, The Hobbit.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: Disk Drive Compatiblity with Tandy 1000SX
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:45:59 GMT

I wonder if there is any Tandy Support companies hooked up to the Inet
because I need to know how I can get my Tandy 1000SX a new 1.44mb disk
drive that will work. 

I'm not sure if 'any' drive will do it. I'm not even sure about my
controller in this thing could handle a drive.

Any information please be done by EMAIL, but I'll read this newsgroup
because I'm registered to it anyway :)

Dan


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: boyd@cs.unca.edu (Mark Boyd)
Subject: Re: Best modem program w/VT102 and zmodem transfers?
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:42:00 GMT

Mike Battersby (ins132g@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) reponded to my
mskermit plug by asking:

>> Yeah, but mskermit (at least the version I'm running 3.11) won't
>> multitask under desqview! Arrgghhh! Is there a list of the proper
>> vt100 spec around somewhere, missing some of the functions when
>> multitasking is killing me!

Have you tried rbcomm or commo? They both are supposed to work well
under DV and they are decent VT emulators, much better than qmodem.
Commo is a bit better, but RBcomm is smaller.

	Mark

PS In my plug for kermit under qmodem, I fogot to mention that I use
shroom to swap almost all of qmodem out of memory. Else it is too big
to let kermit run.  
wuarchive.wustl.edu 
	19148 Mar 14 13:00 ./mirrors/msdos/sysutl/shrom19c.zip


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: allan@vicorp.com (Allan Krantz)
Subject: scsi disk trouble
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:19:04 GMT


 I seem to have screwed up a disk drive.  I have a Maxtor 8760s 676 Meg.
 hard drive.  The problem is that it only thinks it has about 300 megs.
 Somehow i managed to change the information on the disk that says how
 many cylinders it has.  The only way I thought I could change it was
 through installing our interactive unix on it.  There is a step in the
 install that ask if you would like to change the info.  When i tried,
 it told me the controller would not allow me to change the cylinder
 information.  

    How can I make this scsi disk know how many cylinders it really has?


  allan@vicorp.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: shedevil@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anne P. Mitchell, JD)
Subject: Any LAN Newsgroup or Users/Sysadmins Out There?
Reply-To: shedevil@gw.home.vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, J.D.)
Organization: Fathers Rights & Equality Exchange
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:35:37 GMT


I have suddenly found myself in charge of a pre-installed Novell LAN.
The docs are cumbersome and almost infathomable [at least to me] and
Novell only gives support if you pay through the nose for it!  Help!

Are there any newsgroups for LAN users/admins?  Or, just other folks
out there who are LAN savvy who I can look to for advice/reassurance?


Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:12137 aus.computers.ibm-pc:429
From: hao@fees.vut.edu.au (Ms Hao Shi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,aus.computers.ibm-pc
Subject: Help Needed for Generating NEW Lines by batch file
Keywords: bacth, New Line, PC
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:47:26 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology, Melbourne, Australia

Hello netters,

      I tried to write a batch file for my printer.  I have no idea how to
generate a NEW LINE  at my terminal.  Here is the part of my batch file:

      @ECHO OFF
      IF NOT %1 .==. GOTO PrtPrg
      ECHO Please specify the filename to print.
      ECHO Example: Prt filename ...
      ECHO  ???? {I want to have a new line HERE}
      GOTO END
      :PrtPrg
      .
      .
      .
      :END

      I just started to write batch files. The only way I think is to put
the line :

      TYPE NEWLINE

      Here NEWLINE is a file with one RETURN.  The batch file is OK but ...
If anyone have any idea, please email me on hao@fees.vut.edu.au.

      Thanks in advance.
       

Hao
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Does ProComm 2.0 support MNP in software?
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:33:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: abcd.Jim_Johnson.07n3
Distribution: world
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I just upgraded to an internal fax-modem board.  It came with BitFax &
BitCom software.  I noticed that BitCom apparently supports MNP4 in
software for modems (like my new one) does does not have hardware MNP. I
have been using ProComm Plus 1.1b for sometime now and really like it for
my everyday type communications and would like to know if 2.0 also supports
software MNP?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: why does everybody hate microsoft?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:40:10 GMT

jcb (Jim Becker) writes:
>   From: chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe)
>   
>   Ever hear of Hitler?  Well any company that wants to take over the entire 
>   market, leaving no competition, should be shot and pi--ed on.
>   Best Bet, buy OS/2, wait for PINK, and take IBM's upgrade path to it.  
   
>i  find  it  really  humorous  that  the  _only_  company i have heard
>desiring to have a 100% lock on all computer markets is IBM. they have
>publically said this, a few years ago.
>
>so  here  is  a comparison of MicroSoft to Hitler, when they are doing
>their best to make it easy to develop competing software products. and
>on top of that a recommendation to use the software of the one company
>that _has_ said they want to rule the world! pretty funny.

Well, thing is, even if MS hasn't announced they want a 100% lock on a
market, they are much closer to it (wrt 80x86 operating sytems) than IBM.
I'd worry about market domination based on what portion of the market a
company currently has, not how much it announces it would like to have.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
From: alley@argon.berkeley.edu (Rod Alley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: PD DOS utility to read HP instrument files?
Date: 2 Sep 1992 03:19:14 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu
Summary: need to read HP 4145, 4195 floppies
Keywords: HP instrument

Does anyone know of a DOS utility that will read a 3.5" floppy disc that 
has been written to by an HP 4145B?  Though of less interest, I'd also 
like to read 4195-written discs as well.  A public domain utility is
preferred, though I'm interested in shareware/commercial if nothing public
domain exists.

Let me know via e-mail, as I don't read this news group.

Thx,
Rod Alley
alley@argon.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
From: raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz)
Subject: Re: Re^2: Why do people want PD software?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:24:41 GMT

In article <BtvKrK.2FM.2@cs.cmu.edu> tgl+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Lane) writes:
>peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
>> rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
>> >peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
>> >>Why would anyone need PD and not freeware?
>> 
>> >With PD, I can distribute the program and source as part of my own program
>> >without any problems. With freeware (most of the time) I still have to get 
>> >the permission from the author to distribute his/her program & source code.
>> 
>> You didn't read, I was explicitly talking about GNU software and software
>> with a GNU-ish copyleft, i.e. freeware. You don't need any permission to
>> distribute GNU(-ish) software either in source or binary form. The only
>> requirement is that you provide the changed sources to anyone who wants them
>> at a nominal cost.
>
>Peter, evidently *you* didn't read the GNU copyleft very carefully.
>
>If you use some GNU code in a program you write, the GNU General Public
>License effectively requires you to distribute the ENTIRE program under
>the GNU conditions.  In particular, you have to give away, for free,
                                                               ^^^^^^
>*your* source code as well as theirs.  (See their definition of "complete
>source code" if you don't believe me.)  And if someone else uses what
>you've done in a bigger program, they become subject to the GPL as well.

Well, please read the GPL again.  It does say that free software is not
necessarily `no-money' software.  In fact, you may charge money for a
program written with any part of a program that is under the GPL.  There
are several companies doing this.  One even sells the GNU C/C++ Compiler
for about $500.  Although, I would not buy it.  Of course, it is sort
of pointless to charge for a product since you *must* make the source
availible.

>Some people who object to this restriction refer to the GPL as the General
>Public Virus because of its self-replicating properties.

Heh.

>I have personally been involved in a free software project wherein we
>refrained from using any GNU code, simply because we wanted to use our
>distribution terms and not GNU's.
>
>There is a big difference between free software and PD software.
>For some purposes the difference does not matter; but claiming that
>it never matters merely shows your ignorance.
>				regards, tom lane

ttyl,

-- 
Eli Boaz                      | Line noise provide by S.W. Bell Telephone!
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...!cactus.org!wixer!raistlin |  going to have a REAL BAD DAY, get it?" -T2
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From: ade@mh1.mcc.ac.uk (Adrian Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: THE MOST TASTELESS OS (MSDOS)
Keywords: BSD
Date: 25 Aug 92 08:47:03 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, England, U.K.

In article <ade.13.714659746@mh1.mcc.ac.uk> ade@mh1.mcc.ac.uk (Adrian Collins) writes:

>What about 386BSD?  It has X-Windows, GCC, almost everything *AND* 
>networking.  *8-)

Since posting this, I've had a number of people enquiring about it.
Yes it's free!!!   Also, in the uk it's available for anonymous ftp from
dir.mcc.ac.uk & src.doc.ic.ac.uk.  Dir mirrors it's copy from 
agate.berkley.edu so I presume (don't quote me) it's probably available
for anonymous ftp from there.

The newsgroup to watch is comp.unix.bsd

Cheers,

   Adrian
---
Adrian Collins, MCC Network Unit, University of Manchester, M13 9PL, UK
From: stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: why does everybody hate microsoft?
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:27:57 GMT
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy

In article <1992Aug24.183216.18299@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>
>In a previous article, peters@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric peters) says:
>
>>I realize that microsoft has the market cornered with DOS (no flames... 
>>I know OS/2 and DR-DOS are out there), and windows (I hate windows, but its
>>got nothing to do with who makes it... i don't care for macs for the same 
>>reason)....  but why is everyone so opposed to Microsoft?
>
>I have two gripes.
>
>One is that they write cruddy, archane operating systems full of undocumented
>functions which thier own applications seem to know about and use.
>
>The other is that they seem to concentrate on selling average to poor quality
>software to stupid micro computer users rather than making good stuff that
>sells itself.  (ms has made some good products, but they tend to be 
>the exceptions, not the rule.)

Word for Windows, Excel, Visual BASIC. Hmm. If this is "average to poor
quality" I'd *love* to see some great-quality software. I don't think
Microsoft can do no wrong, but I am happy with all of the MS software I
own. (Then again, I have to use UNIX at work, so anything I can run on my
PC seems wonderful).

Stephen
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 13:20:24 CDT
From: THOMAS CLARK <U59007@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Fix for AT&T 6300 clock

I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get the clock fix for the AT&T
6300.  This lets the person set the date passed 1991.  I need it for about
300 computers.


Thom.

@u59007.uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc