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From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Subject: Re: Please help with Vax Station
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
Organization: Academic Computer User Services
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:56:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.072010.4344@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:

   > 	Can I hook up a PC to be a dumb terminal to this?  I think the
   > 	other card is applicable here:  Two dials, a switch, a 9 pin
...
   > 	and is labled "baud" -- each position is a baud rate.  When
   > 	the machine is powered up the LED says "A".

     Yes. In order to make the serial port (the 9-pin connector, which BTW
   uses a DEC pinout and not the PC pinout) the primary console, you'll
   need to disable the video board. The easiest way is to just take it out
   (you'll probably need to rearrange cards to maintain bus continuity).

I assume that if I can get a monitor I can use the serial port with a
terminal without disabling the graphic subsystem?

Also, does anyone have the "DEC" pinout scheme?

     I think the machine is sitting there waiting for you to respond to a
   question about national language which is displayed on the (missing)
   monitor.

I hope so.  At least I hope I can make it work one way or the other...

	   Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	   terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	   terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381

Thanks very much for your help.

-dennis
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Dennis Gray, Jr.                                        DGray@uh.edu
"You askin' to become a pile of zeros?  I could put you away so good
that Peter Norton couldn't find you with his arms unfolded."
			  - Lincoln Spector
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: glenn@cloud1.met.fsu.edu (GLENN)
Subject: DECWINDOW,IRIS AND XWINDOWS
Reply-To: glenn@cloud1.met.fsu.edu
Organization: FSU-Meteorology Department
Distribution:  world
Date: 12 NOV 92 16:43:46    

I am trying to setup my display on a vaxstation model76 using
vax/vms 5.5 to show a xwindow display on a silicon graphics
workstation (4d/35) using 4.0.1. os. since i am using
decwindows on a vms machine and not ultrix ,the set environment
variable DISPLAY is set by using 'set display/create/node=....'
i have been unsucessfull in display and xlib window on the
iris by runing the code on the vax-vms. 
the iris has permitted access to the vax node by use of the
xhost command.

 any suggesstions? or do i have to get an ultrix workstation?

 thanks

****************************************************
glenn daughenbaugh
glenn@cloud1.met.fsu.edu
dept of meteorology
florida state university
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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: dialout program for VMS
Date: 9 Nov 1992 10:05:11 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1deurtINNh9u@fido.asd.sgi.com>, jaques@drbob.corp.sgi.com writes:
> 
> --
> Anyone know of dialout program for VMS that handles dialing 
> 
> thanks
> 
> bob


SET HOST /DTE has a dialout option. If you look in the SYS$EXAMPLES:
directory I think there is a sample program for dialling with DECs own
modem, it shouldn't be a big job to change that to other formats.

Steve

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38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Now that Alpha is here......
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:01:47 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Nov12.155916.231@hsh.com>, lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann) writes:
> Now that the new Alpha Vaxes are out, does anyone have a spare KA655 and memory
> they care to part with (cheap? :-)

  Lee should probably mention that he is looking for a _timeshare_ version
w/ a VMS license. I had some KA650's with _server_ licenses for a steal,
but he needs timeshare...

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: pettengill@cvg.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Alpha speed?
Reply-To: pettengill@cvg.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:53:41 GMT


In article <RICHARD.92Nov12152902@chemeng.stanford.edu>, richard@chemeng.stanford.edu (Richard Schiek) writes:
|>In all the technical blurbs for the new DEC Alpha chip, they call it a
|>300MHz chip.  Yet, in all the new systems that DEC is shipping, the
|>chip is running at 140 MHz max.  Why is it called a 300MHz chip when
|>only 140 MHz systems are for sale?  Is there a problem with getting
|>other components (ie memory) to work with a chip this fast, or is the
|>chip lifetime too short to be feasible at 300 MHz.  

I'm not sure what information you're referring to specifically, but as
others have noted, at 150mHz, or more specifically 6.6ns cycle time, the
theorectical peak instruction rate is 300MIPS.  This is in fact the spec
for the 21064-AA which has been shipping since the spring to anyone who
is interested.  This is rated conservatively; the chip will definitely
work at that speed.  The chips are also being binned for higher speed parts
and there is no problem meeting demand for chips for all systems, even the
DEC 10000 which is at 200mHz.

If you have read the spec on the 21064 chip, you may have read that the input
clock is up to 300mHz; this is used to drive the on chip clock which uses
a doubled clock to more precisely generate the square wave needed.  In other
words, the clock signal into the chip is 300mHz by the cycle time is 6.6ns
or 150mHz.  Actually quoting frequency is rather misleading with most systems
since the thing that is really important is the cycle time.  Consider that
the 486DX2/25 is drive by a 25mHz clock but runs at a 20ns cycle time because
the input clock is doubled to 50mHz.

mulp
DEC

Xref: sparky comp.sys.dec:5837 misc.forsale.computers:39577 vmsnet.pdp-11:828 ne.forsale:4932
From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers,vmsnet.pdp-11,ne.forsale
Subject: DEC Related items forsale
Date: 8 Nov 92 10:19:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Distribution: comp,misc,vmsnet,ne
Organization: Boston University


All items buyer pays shipping. 

($25) DEC LA120-BA (DECwriter III)
          Condition: Non-working, should be good for parts

($40) DigiData 9 track reel-to-reel model# 1749-86-4-110-UL
      originally controlled by an Emulex TC01, with densities of 800/1600.
      Used on a PDP-11/23 system.
      Last known condition was working, I have no way to verify it at
      present, so its being sold as UNKNOWN condition, no manuals.

($20) CDC 9448 Cartridge Module Drive
          This is an 84meg hard drive with a removable pack.
          Used on a PDP-11/23, configured as 5 fixed RK06 and one removable.
	  This was controlled by a SC01 which makes it a SMD drive,
	  (not MFM, RLL, etc etc). its 3'x1.5'x1' and rather heavy.
	  Includes - 3 removable packs 
                   - mounting hardware
	  Its condition is unknown since I no longer have anything to
	  connect it to, but it powers up and spins the disks.

email to rocker@cs.bu.edu

-Rocker
From: jaques@drbob.corp.sgi.com ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: dialout program for VMS
Date: 6 Nov 1992 23:24:45 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc , Network Engineering
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jaques@drbob.corp.sgi.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: drbob.corp.sgi.com


--
Anyone know of dialout program for VMS that handles dialing 

thanks

bob

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
Subject: HELP!  Another beginner question...
Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
Organization: Academic Computer User Services
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:54:30 GMT


It has been through the immense help from lots of you here on the net
that I have actually made this ol' Vax Staion II work.  Thanks to you
all and the guys here at UH who also contributed.

Here's what is currently wrong:

I got the terminal working (just a text terminal on the serial port)
and with some expert help from our administrator at school got the
thing up.  At the >>> prompt we did b/2 then changed uafalternate to
1.  Then we changed the system password.  From there I did a set host
0 and logged out and in lots of times and everything worked fine.  I
even managed to make myself a user account (but didn't give myself
system privs...).  However, the problem arose after I did an "orderly
shutdown" and then powered off.  When I boot it now, my user account
is fine, but the system login doesn't work.  I cannot even go in
through uafalternate and rekludge it.

So, two questions and you can answer either or both:

How can I get the system account back up and running?

How can I reload VMS from the tape?  I do not yet have a manual of any
kind...

Thanks in advance,
-dennis
From: avolio@dco.dec.com (Frederick M Avolio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: dxmail on ULTRIX
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:25:13 GMT
Reply-To: avolio@dco.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Originator: avolio@gildor.dco.dec.com


I'd post this question in comp.unix.ultrix and cross post it in
comp.mail.sendmail.

You also need to include more information.  WHAT didn't it like?
I suspect that it has nothing to do with dxmail and that the
sendmail.cf is misconfigured.  

f
From: tomk@mamba.DoCS.UU.SE (Tom F Karlsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Bigger HD for Rainbow 100B
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:08:08
Organization: Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mamba.csd.uu.se


I'm having some trouble installing a NEC D3142 harddisk on my Rainbow.
It has 615 cylinders and 8 heads.

It's possible to install it as a 20Mb HD with 615 cyl, 8 heads (like
RD31 or whatever it's called). But when I try to install it as a 40Mb HD
(thats what it is, really), I can't boot from any of the partitions and
two of the partitions can't hold any files.

I think it has something to do with the pre-boot and sec-boot loaders on
the HD. I've heard that there's a program fixing this, DSKPREP (or something).

I use MS-DOS 2.05, 2.11 and CP/M-86/80.

Is there anyone who could help me with this ?
Maybe someone knows where to get the DSKPREP program or have some ideas
about how to overcome this problem.

/Tom
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|  student of computer science @ Uppsala University     |
|  email:   tomk@meryl.csd.uu.se                        |
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From: ntitley@axion.bt.co.uk (Nigel Titley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Any details of DEC message router protocol?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:13:28 GMT
Reply-To: ntitley@axion.bt.co.uk (Nigel Titley)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Has anybody got any details of the DEC message router protocol?

Is it the same as mail11 (the standard DECnet mail protocol) or is it
more complex. I suspect the latter.

I ask because I am interested in writing a channel for PP to handle it.

Mail me for preference, as I don't usually read this group (although I'll
keep an eye on it for the next week or so).

Many thanks

Nigel Titley

Email: NTitley@axion.bt.co.uk
Snail: British Telecom Research labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, Suffolk, UK
"Well, I'm disenchanted too. We're all disenchanted." (James Thurber)
From: karell@cs.Helsinki.FI (Esa Karell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Alpha questions
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:15:12 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

I've only seen the ads on trade rags so I'd like
to ask a few questions.

1) How parallel is Alpha? Can it execute more than
   1 instruction/cycle (say, yes )? If yes, how many
   optimal/average?

2) How many instructions are there?

3) How scalable it is with clock rate? 200 sounds
  quite steep. Can you *easily* (means, still use
  the same technology) jack it up to say 400?
  Is it CMOS?

4) How big are icache and dcache?
   Does it vary on any of the currently introduced boxes?

5) The ad said that also SV(R4?) *IX is (yeah, it really did
   say *is* not will :-) available besides OSF/1.
   Who did this for Alpha and any details on it?

6) Greetings to dec mktg. Couldn't you possibly come up
   with a more pathetic way to push this chip than
   by tooting this 4 ??? ??? ??? whatever number.
   And think that some poor sobs may actually buy the
   propaganda that this box is 4 <whatever> times
   better than what they have now.... 
  

-- 

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Tel. +358-0 513 081 /home
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: ukcy@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Kevin Yager)
Subject: Save VT100 settings
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:39:40 GMT

Could anyone tell me how to save terminal configurations in a VT100?  ( or if
it is even possible?)

I hate leaving the thing on, so every time I turn it on  have to hit the 
Transmit and Receive keys 13 times to get to 2400.

Thanks.

Kevin Yager

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: Alpha Prices -- Any Idea out there??
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:46:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park
Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu

In article <1992Nov10.203148.800@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>, woodford@fourier.ece.cmu.edu (Paul Woodford) writes:
>Congratulations are due to DEC.  Nice performance at nice prices.  Just wish
>we had that much money...
>
>Paul "this is a stickup - hand over $14,995 + shipping" Woodford

Umm, one would hope Educational Pricing is a little more...friendly, hm?

Assuming you're a slave to the U. :)


                 Play in the intelluctual sandbox of Usenet 

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.dec:5841 comp.os.vms:17658
From: dold@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Clarence Dold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ?
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:42:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: Unisys Unix Systems Group, San Jose, CA

From article <1992Nov6.172941.28490@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, by dwight@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (Dwight D. Moore):
> In article <1992Nov5.113540.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, brent@uwovax.uwo.ca (Brent Sterner) writes:

> |>DEC has a non-debugging system they could use.)  Is there a rule of thumb 
> |>typical programs ("alpha memory needs"/"vax memory needs" ~= "constant")?

I am not a VAX-ophile, but the experience in moving code from a Motorola
68040 to the Motorloa 88100 RISC set shows a substantial change in the
requirement for disk space for executables, as well as run-time memory.
I recall a comparison of ~20% for like code.

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From: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Now that Alpha is here......
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:39:06 GMT
Reply-To: jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Nov12.155916.231@hsh.com>, lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann) writes:
|>
|>Now that the new Alpha Vaxes are out, does anyone have a spare KA655 and memory
|>they care to part with (cheap? :-)
|>

Sorry for flaming you, but please, please, please.  


Alpha is NOT a VAX, it is an entirely new architecture that was designed
from the ground up.  It does not execute VAX instructions and the only thing
that it has in common with a VAX is that they both run VMS.  

Thanks
--


William M. Jackson
Workstation Product Marketing Manager
Workstation Engineering
Digital Equipment Corporation
146 Main Street
Maynard, MA 01754

Mail:	Jackson@pravda.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sstrong@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Alpha Prices -- Any Idea out there??
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:42:20 GMT

I understand that the Alpha machines are to be anounced soon.

Does Anyone have any idea on the price range of a low end alpha system?  
I realize that they are not on the market yet but I was wondering in what 
ball-park they would be  :-) ...

Thanks.
Steve.
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Electrical Engineering, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: reeves@yauw.aosg.gsf.dec.com (jon reeves)
Subject: Re: Alpha Prices -- Any Idea out there??
Reply-To: reeves@decvax.dec.com
Organization: AOSG
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:35:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.175108.28116@eng.umd.edu>, sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) writes:
|> Can you or someone else give us the Real Deal on:
|> 	o	Expansion slots
|> 	o	SCSI and other ports off the back

Well, looking at the one under my desk, I see:

 . 3 Turbochannel slots
 . SCSI
 . Thickwire Ethernet and 10BASE-T (switch selected); my box came with a DESTA,
   but that may have been an option
 . ISDN with a "don't use this or you go to prison" sticker
 . Audio I/O
 . Alternate console/printer
 . Sync port (printer/plotter/modem/terminal)

Plus the keyboard/mouse connector.  One Turbochannel slot is occupied by the
display card (I've got one of the color display options).
-- 
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+1 603 884 5859	reeves@aosg.gsf.dec.com		FAX: +1 603 884 1685
From: mjo@slee10.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: dxmail on ULTRIX
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:38:25 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee10.srl.ford.com

:>I'm using dxmail on ULTRIX and it's been working fine until I
:>wanted to send mail to an address of the form:
:
:>blah!blah%blah.UUCP@blah.blah.blah
:
:>It's a good address because I had someone on a SUN forward it for me.

It's NOT a good address.  "!" mixed with "@" and "%" mixed with "@"
can cause problems, and "!" and "%" mixed with "@" usually DOES cause
problems.  

:>Also, does anyone know if DEC has an e-mail address for sending
:>questions or problems to?

comp.sys.dec.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

:)

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: fred@fagmed.uit.no (Fred Larsen)
Subject: DECnsr on Suns
Keywords: DECnsr, Sun
Organization: University of Tromsoe, School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:22:03 GMT


Hi

Has anybody installed a DECnsr client on a SUN 4 . I followed the
installation manual, but when I try to do a savegroup from the server
I get the following error :

1 amandus-/usr/staff/fred#savegroup -n default
savegroup: Using amandus as server
savegroup: atf1.fagmed.uit.no:/home failed.
* atf1.fagmed.uit.no:/home savefs: error, Resource does not exist (35012)
* atf1.fagmed.uit.no:/home savefs: cannot retrieve save cycle resource

I tried to manually copy the nsr.res file to the Sun but no good.

If I try from the Sun, I get the followin :
atf1:/usr/etc# savegroup -n default
savegroup: Using nsrhost (amandus.fagmed.uit.no) as server for atf1
savegroup: Need 'NSR save group' resource with name 'default'.

 I am obviously overlooking something, but what ? 

  SUNOS 4.1.2, DEC5000/240 Ultrix 4.2A DECnsr 1.1


Please answer by E-mail .

Thanks in advance

Fred
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: cantor@star.enet.dec.com (Dave Cantor)
Subject: Re: Save VT100 settings
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:39:54 GMT



In article <1992Nov8.203940.488@pool.info.sunyit.edu>, ukcy@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Kevin Yager) writes...
>Could anyone tell me how to save terminal configurations in a VT100?  ( or if
>it is even possible?)
> 
>I hate leaving the thing on, so every time I turn it on  have to hit the 
>Transmit and Receive keys 13 times to get to 2400.

<SETUP>   puts the terminal in SETUP-A
S         saves the settings

That 'S' is capital S, not lowercase.

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 Digital Equipment Corp., Nashua, NH  03062, USA
  The views expressed herein are my own, except where attributed to 
  someone else.  They are neither the opinion of, nor the responsibility 
  of, Digital Equipment Corporation.
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Please help with Vax Station
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:16:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: spcvxb.1992Nov8.101635.4348
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <DGRAY.92Nov8015655@menudo.uh.edu>, dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) writes:
> I assume that if I can get a monitor I can use the serial port with a
> terminal without disabling the graphic subsystem?

  Yes. Just remember that the VAX will treat the QVSS as the "console", so
you'll have to have a keyboard there as well. You won't be able to use the
serial port until you've got the operating system up and enabled logins.

  Also, if you expect to use the CPU serial port for file transfers, you
may be in for a disappointment - it's an unbuffered, interrupt-per-char-
acter port.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: john@sekrit.WPI.EDU (John Stoffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:15:05
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
	<2973@mitisft.Convergent.COM>
	<1992Nov9.074004.23143@vbohub.vbo.dec.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sekrit.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: kaiser@mammal.vbo.dec.com's message of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:40:04 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:40:04 GMT, kaiser@mammal.vbo.dec.com (Peter Kaiser) said:

Peter> --
Peter> In article <2973@mitisft.Convergent.COM>, dold@mitisft.Convergent.COM
Peter> (Clarence Dold) writes:

> ... experience in moving code from a Motorola
> 68040 to the Motorloa 88100 RISC set shows a substantial change in the
> requirement for disk space for executables, as well as run-time memory.
> I recall a comparison of ~20% for like code.

Peter> This breaks down for the move from RISC ULTRIX to DEC OSF/1 for
Peter> Alpha AXP systems, because DEC OSF/1 has shared libraries, and
Peter> because the move is from RISC to RISC.

It's been pretty good here (we're a Beta site) for compiled binary
sizes.  You really don't notice shared libraries for most code.  Where
it really shines is for very grahics intensive code.  We had one guy
who went from a 1.2 Mb on disk program to 90K on the Alpha.  

Other programs don't offer as much of a savings.

			John
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