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From: ewh@emf780.den.mmc.com (Edward Householder)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: 24pin color printing or KXP2124 vs HP500C - opinions?
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:36:02 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta, Denver


   I am seeking opinions from those of you who have Panasonic Kxp2123 or 
Kxp2124 24 pin printers with the color option.

   Specifically I would like to know what you think of the color 
printing; because I haven't found a store with the color option kit 
installed in order to evaluate it.

   More specifically I would like to how the 2123/2124's 
(or 24pin color printers in general) compare to the HP500C
printers.

Thanks for your help.
______________
ed householder
email:  ewh@emf780.den.mmc.com
...........................................................the end!
From: pegasus@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (chad burr)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: i Recently
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:54:45 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Bought a STAR NX-1001 Multi Font Printer
This 9PIN 180CPS Printer has since suited all my need (only 3 days old)
However it supports IBM-PRO PRINTER III and the EPSON LX-850
Im looking into Which Mode i should Emulate!
I have asked around but can not seem to get an answer
So i now turn to you - Please Tell me Which is Better!
The Sinister Minister
Remote Sysop Of Whats All this then!
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jay Jeffrey Schuh)
Subject: EPSON scrolls too slowly
Originator: jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:06:19 GMT



	We have two Epson FX-1050 printers where I work and recently
	the tractors on one of them were screwed up so it was replaced
	with a another one.  The problem is that the new one we re-
	ceived prints slower.  The problem is when the printer encounters
	a blank area of print, instead of scrolling smoothly past it, the
	new printer increments at 1/2 inch intervals until it gets to the 
	next printed portion.  I know that there are software settings
	for the printer but I have know idea which one could control
	this behavior.

	Any help is greatly appreciated.

	Jay

	jjs@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: RUSHING@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Apple Laser IIg/IBM's and a switching box
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:43:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: wsuvm1.1686296B4.RUSHING
Organization: SYSTEMS & COMPUTING

I have an Apple LaserWriter IIg hooked up to two IBM PS2/30's
through a Belkin AutoSwitch Plus box.  If I set the switching
box to manual selection, the printer works fine.  If I set it
to auto-scanning, sometimes the application gets a printer not
working signal, and sometimes it works fine.  I've adjusted the
timeout on the switching box up to 60 seconds, but this doesn't
seem to help the problem.  I realize it's unlikely anyone else has
a similar configuration, but does anyone have any suggestions.
 
Tim Rushing (rushing@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu)
Washington State University
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Character widths for CG Times (HP) font
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:08:45 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <Bu2K8y.8zy@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) writes:
>Is there a utility that will tell me the widths of the
>CG Times font built into the HP printers (LJ III and DJ 500)
>Maybe one that reads the windows .fon file, or maybe there is
>a place that has this information already.

Psroff 3.0 has width tables for CG Times and Univers.  It's available
for ftp on ftp.cs.toronto.edu (just down the street from you)
under pub/psroff-3.0.
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From: walt@bcarh1d7.bnr.ca (Walt Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP LJ IIIsi, set duplex mode from PostScript?
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:38:28 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
In-reply-to: goss@CS.ColoState.EDU's message of 7 Sep 92 17:12:27 GMT

In article <Sep07.171227.80145@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> goss@CS.ColoState.EDU (Mike Goss) writes:

>   Anyone know how to set a HP LaserJet IIIsi to duplex mode from a
>   PostScript file?  We have the HP PostScript installed in the printer,
>   and none of the manuals that we have seems to cover this.  There is
>   a procedure called "setduplexmode" in statusdict, but calling it
>   in the preamble with "true setduplexmode" just causes the job to
>   end without printing anything.


Try "statusdict begin true setduplexmode end". I think that's what works on
our LJIIIsi,

--
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From: myahgula@questor.UUCP (Michael Yahgulanaas)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: works printer driver
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 00:09:57 PDT
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

Help,

I've lost all the original setup disks for Microsoft Works. Now I
have a new printer and am finally exploring Works, (after loving
WP 5.0 ) But now that I need to use the spreadsheet capabilities
of Works , I am unable to change the print driver. How do I
approach this problem ?

Seeking solutions....
michael


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From: TONY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Tony Roder)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Info on low-cost PS printers wanted
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:07:04 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <92255.103129IFF291@DJUKFA11.BITNET>, IFF291@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Stephan
Petersen) says:
>
>I'm looking around for a low-cost Postscript printer that hooks
>up to PCs as well as MACs (best would be serial, parallel and
>Appletalk interface with autodetect, so that you can connect 3
>computers simultaneously).
>
I believe the QMS PS410 and its big brothers will do that.  Advertised
for $1495 the last time I looked.

-----------------------------------
Tony Roder, speaking his mind .....
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:2654 comp.protocols.appletalk:3383 comp.sys.mac.comm:9011
From: Jerrod@Lilly.Com (Jerrod T. Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Once again: mixed network
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:17:47 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Eli Lilly & Company



In article <1992Sep13.100738.9403@email.tuwien.ac.at> Peter Purgathofer,
purgi@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at writes:
>One solution would be (I think) to get AppleTalk-Software for the NeXT
>(uShare) and the PCs (???), but since we are not able to buy software any
>more, this is no solution for us. (Or is some pd-sw out there??).

Or you can upgrade to NeXTSTEP 3.0 which has AppleTalk client software
bundled in the operating system. Is shipping now...
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: EPSON software emulation for HP Laserjet
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:22:22 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Message-I.D.: <1992Sep3.123421.25732@panix.com>Lines: 22


 In article <1992Sep3.123421.25732@panix.com> schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:
>
>It's called DMPLAS.ZIP and should be on major archive sites.
>Also has an optional set of 9-pin soft fonts for even better effect.
>
>For better results, you may wish to plunk down $150 or so for the
>Epson/IBM emulation cartridge made by HP.
>
Does this firware support 24 pin EPSON LQ?
My friend bought a EPSON 9 pin emulation working on a HP desk jet.
The quality was not satisfactory.
Any Idea?

                                       Kim from AL.
>
>
>-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.misc
From: sorbrrse@rtsg.mot.com (Russell E. Sorber)
Subject: UNIX/DOS LAN printqueuing?
Keywords: printer, printspool, unix, msdos, LAN
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:55:30 GMT



A sysadm friend of mine at a site without net access
is having a problem.

They have an ethernet  TCP/IP network with both UNIX 
and DOS boxes attached and a shared laserprinter.  
The UNIX boxes are the servers and the DOS files
are accessible via UNIX. 

Sometimes(oftentimes) print jobs to the shared printer 
get lost when printed from the DOS boxes, 
requiring up to four tries to print
a job from any of the 15 or so DOS machines.

Perhaps some queuing or print spooling software could
be added to the DOS boxes.  Any ideas on compatible
printing software or other ways to solve this problem?
(A N*vell license has been suggested and rejected
because of lack of compatibility with the Unix boxes).

This problem has now been promoted to "top priority"
at his company.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  

Please e-mail replies to me and I will forward and
then post to the net. 

Thanks in advance,

Russ Sorber



-- 
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Russ Sorber
Software Contractor
Motorola, Cellular Division
From: un020307@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Laser printer between $2000-$4000
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:54:18 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


I'm considering buying a laser printer in the $2,000 - $4,000 price range.
Right now, I have a 600 dpi IBM model 4029 with postscript and 4 meg option.
What is the next step toward higher resolution in my price range?

Tim Terman
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: QMS's ESP brain-dead?
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:52:58 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD

Is it me, or is QMS's so-called "ESP" brain-dead?  We have been using
an Apple LaserWriter for three years, and it very, very rarely burps
on PostScript / ASCII recognition.  Once in a long while, it will spit
out PS code, and I've never seen it "eat" an ASCII file.

But we have a new QMS PS1700 and without a logical queue to force PS
or ASCII recognition (which is less than desirable in many situations),
and even sometimes with the logical queues, it fails about 20-30% of
the time.

For example, it was "eating" most C files I would send it.  Finally,
I uploaded a PostScript debugging tool I've had lying around and I got

	Error: undefined
	Offending line:  #include <stdio.h>

In some cases, adding comment lines before the #include helped; in some
cases, not.  I haven't figured out a consistent way to fix it yet.

As for PostScript, there's no excuse for dumping PS code to output!  The
documentation says that ESP scans the first 256 characters to try to
determine the language.  For PostScript files, that should require TWO
characters:  the "%!" at the beginning of any non-brain-damaged app's
generated PS.

So, of course, I called tech support and the explanation amounted to,
"It is a very hard problem to determine input language, and ESP is an
Artificial Intelligence [hahahaha!--the rep's exact words, I swear]
program to do so.  There will always be files that will 'fool' the
program and there's just nothing to do about it.  Such problems,
however, are rare."

With the exception of the last sentence, this is true and reasonable.
However, not only are problems not rare, they're damned common!  So,
what I want to know from anyone out there intimately familiar with
these printers is:  Am I 

	a) stupid? [something is going on I don't understand]
	b) unlucky? [I just happened to hit the "rare" ESP failures]
	c) stupid and unlucky? [for buying a QMS printer which does 
	                        indeed have the brain-dead ESP]
 
In case it matters, the printer is its own host on a TCP/IP network
and is mostly served (in the context I'm complaining about, anyway) by
a SunOS Unix system.

Thanks for any help or replies.
--
 From the catapult of:              |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  U.S. Naval Academy|+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /   baldwin@usna.navy.mil   |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: rollins@oktext.sbc.com (Steven D. Rollins)
Subject: Re: Q: connecting a postscript printer to the serial port of a sparc
Reply-To: rollins@oktext.UUCP (Steven D. Rollins)
Organization: Southwestern Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:03:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.021621.26194@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang) writes:
>
>I thought it's a trivial task.  But after spending more than three
>hours on the setup, I was totally confused.
>
>Jiajie Zhang
>Department of Psychology
>Ohio State University
>jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

	We have newsprint on our sparc2. It has a script called
	add_np_printer. You might see if you have it. It performs
	all the necessary setups for a printer.

--
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Southwestern Bell Telephone Midwest | "...are you the widow Budreau?", "No"
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From: regnad@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Paul Prescott)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Diablo 630 interfaceing
Keywords: Diablo
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:55:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Redundency Department


I am trying to get a Diablo 630 printer working with my old Morrow Micro
Decision CP/M computer.  So far, I have not been able to get, or make a
working interface cable.  The Diablo has a 50 pin Centronics stlye connector
and the Morrow has a 34 pin edge connector as its parallel port.  (This is
the same as what the older Radio Shack TRS-80 machines used.)  I'd really
like to have a cable to go directly from the Morrow to the Diablo, but I'd
settle for a 36 pin centronics to 50 pin centronics, or even just the pin
assignments for the Diablo's connector.  Information on any of the above
will be greatly appreciated.

Paul Prescott
regnad@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: hedges@pilot.njin.net (Douglas Hedges)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: New Compaq PS printer/fax
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:23:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

There was also an informative piece on this printer
in Sunday's (9/6) NY Times Business section.  Nice table
comparing features with HP IIISI. Looks good on paper.
Anyone had a chance to grok one yet?
From: ammond@gdls.UUCP (Joe Ammond)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Info requested about a TI OMNI 800.
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:49:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation

I just acquired a TI OMNI 800 Model 855 printer, but it came without any
docs.  It seems to have a Centronics port on the back, but any data from
my 286's parallel port never seems to get to the printer.  (I'm running
SCO Xenix/286, if that matters).

Can anyone give me any documentation on this beast?  It seems to be a 
fairly nice 9 pin printer, and I'd rather not toss it away.

ja.

PS:  Don't trust the mail headers, reply to the address in the .sig, or
use ammond@csc-gw.csctmd.com.
-- 
Joe Ammond                                       ammond%gdls@ilium.troy.msen.com
Unix System Administrator                General Dynamics, Land Systems Division
 "O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention, -"
From: stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu (Glenn Stauffer)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Envelope Printers: Pitney-Bowes or RENA (Comments, anyone?)
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:03:15 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6DBFFEBA6014335@mac3.beardsley.swarthmore.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:02:35 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

We're currently looking at options for an envelope printer to handle 
output from our DEC (RISC 5900 running Ultrix) system.  Potential use 
ranges as high as 16,000 envelopes in one run with an average of 
500 - 2500 envelopes.  Zip+4 will also play an important part in the near 
future, so postal bar-code support is key.

Our primary concerns are:

1. Reliability
2. Ease of use
3. Serviceability
4. Print Quality

The printers that we are looking at include an ink-jet model from 
Pitney-Bowes, a Pitney-Bowes mid-range dot-matrix unit, and a RENA 
dot-matrix unit.

I'm hoping, through this post, to find someone who has similar needs who 
might be using a printer from one of these companies or from any other 
company.

I'd appreciate any comments regarding the general quality of these 
printer brands, alternatives worth considering, and the reputations of 
these two (or any other) companies in terms of service and support.


Thank you,

Glenn Stauffer
Swarthmore College Computing Center
stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu
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From: Jeff@digtype.airage.com (Jeff Wasilko)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: New Compaq PS printer/fax
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 11:39:17 EST
Organization: Univ of Fnord; Roslyn's Cafe Div.
Reply-To: jeff@digtype.airage.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


I just saw an article in Open Systems Today about Compaq's new Postscript/PCL
printers. The most interesting thing is that the printers (one 15ppm
listing at $4000 and one 20ppm listing at $5500) also have built-in
fax-modems.This lets the printer act as a 800x400dpi fax machine.

Does anyone know if this is recieve only, or can it send faxes too?
Any idea who's engine they are using? Any other tidbits on these interesting
new printers?

Thanks,

Jeff

--
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                                                        jwasilko@airage.com
"A system admin's life is a sorry one.  The only advantage he has over
Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
of their own innards!"  -Michael O'Brien
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: SmartCom II - hangup problems
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:01:23 GMT

jasper@geriatrix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jon Barber) writes:

>I've got a Hayes 2400 and I'm using SmartComm II - its
>okay, it does the basics, but it takes SIXTY SECONDS to
>disconnect, and it does this modally, freezing my mac
>for agonizing seconds while my fingers are oh oh oh wanting
>to work...

"Does the basics"?  I spend hours daily on the modem, and I've found
Smartcom II to be the _best_ program around for active use.  Its
scripting capabilities are excellent, and its speed is unmatched.

Now, I've also had the problem you describe.  I believe it is caused
when the modem doesn't notice the escape sequence (as changed by
Smartcom) immediately.  I don't know why exactly, though.

<Waiting for Bill Coleman of Hayes to comment further>

	-=Alan
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: oweng@aston.ac.uk (Gareth Owen)
Subject: Running a DEC Printserver 20 over TCP/IP and/or Novell
Organization: Aston University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:03:27 GMT

There's no mention of any network option other than DECNET in Decdirect
Are such options available from a 3rd party ?
Is the PS 20 (or 40) Dec's own work or a rebadge job. If the latter , whose ?
It would be a pity to leave our best printer behind in the rush to move from
VMS to UNIX

TIA
-- 
Gareth Owen	oweng@aston.ac.uk  , +44 021 359 3611 ext 4815
Information Systems ,Aston University,Birmingham,B4 7ET,UK
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:2590 comp.dcom.fax:1655
From: tamura@toda.ricoh.co.jp (Hiroshi Tamura)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: New Compaq PS printer/fax
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:57:14 GMT
	<1992Sep8.202744.17144@adobe.com>
Organization: RICOH Toda Technical Center, Kanagawa
In-reply-to: mparker@adobe.com's message of 8 Sep 92 20:27:44 GMT


In article <1992Sep8.202744.17144@adobe.com> mparker@adobe.com (Mike Parker) writes:

I would very much appreciate your answering the following question.

   >In article <0105002B.d1rv57@digtype.airage.com> jeff@digtype.airage.com writes:
   >>
   >>I just saw an article in Open Systems Today about Compaq's new Postscript/PCL
   >>printers. The most interesting thing is that the printers (one 15ppm
   >>listing at $4000 and one 20ppm listing at $5500) also have built-in
   >>fax-modems.This lets the printer act as a 800x400dpi fax machine.

What kind of fax-modems do these printers have ?

   >>Any other tidbits on these interesting new printers?
   >
   >It's important to understand what the "800x400dpi fax machine" thing is
   >all about.  If we're sending to an ordinary fax machine then the resolution
   >is 200x200 as usual.  Even sending raster between two PS fax printers gets
   >200x200.  When both parties have PS fax printers (so far Compaq and NEC have
   >announced such printers) then the PS file is sent instead.  When it is
   >printed at the receiving end it can do anything the receiving printer can do.
   >So between two Compaq PageMarq printers you get 800x400.  From a Compaq to
   >a NEC you get 300x300.  You can get 11" x 17" paper between two Compaqs.
   >When we put this stuff in a color printer you can send a color PS file and
   >get color output.

Can the PS file be sent between the Compaq PS fax printer and the NEC one ?
If so, what kind of protocols is used ?  Using NSF/NSS in T.30 ?  Are there 
any other agreements to do ? Is this open to the public ?

Thanks.

--
Hiroshi Tamura (tamura@toda.ricoh.co.jp)
RICOH COMPANY, LTD.
Toda Technical Center
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From: pegasus@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (chad burr)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Deskjet+ doesn't always feed paper
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:19:49 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

hp48sx@wupost.wustl.edu (HP48SX Archive Maintainer) writes:

> As an Apple techie I can tell you that pure Isopropanol is the best to
> clean rollors with. I do it in laserprinters and my Deskwriter. The

I use Isoproparonal 97% is that any good
I use it to clean most of all of my Computer Stuff
I bought a Few cleaning kits for my printer and accesories and most of 
the soulutions had 57% isosporonal
I wonder
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