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Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Bush's Veto
From: berg@logan.cass.usu.edu (Glenn Berg)
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:28:17
Organization: The Center for Atmospheric and Space Science, Logan, UT
In-reply-to: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com's message of 9 Oct 1992 19:27:59 GMTLines: 37

In article <1b4mfvINN4nm@fido.asd.sgi.com> aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer) writes:

   The facts state a different story.  Since the cable industry was de-regulated
   during the Reagan Administration, consumer prices have gone through the roof,
   even though there has been no commensurate increase in costs.

Unless I'm mistaken, demand for cable has also skyrocketed.  This would also
have driven rates up.

   With
   regards to "set up shop yourself", what do you suggest -- that each cable
   company run cables into your home, so you can choose which one to use?
   Ludicrous.

   In your town, there is one "water company", and one set of pipes come into
   your home.  That monopoly is regulated.

   In your town, there is one "power company", and one set of electrical wires
   come into your home.  That monopoly is regulated.

   In your town, there is one local "phone company", and one set of telephone 
   wires come into your home.  Your local phone company owns the wires.  AT&T 
   owns the long-distance-wires, and other services (the "baby bells") lease 
   rights to use them.  Both are regulated.

Well, in "my town" (of < 10,000) there are two cable companies to choose from
:).

I too was disappointed to see the override of Bush's veto.  Even in an industry
that lends itself well to a monopoly, I think that demand should regulate the
price.  I don't feel that cable is worth the asking price, SO I DON'T GET IT!
And poor reception/selection keeps me from becoming a couch potato.

--
----------------------------------------
Glenn Berg (berg@logan.cass.usu.edu)
CASS, Utah State University, Logan, Utah
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.destroy.the.earth
From: tim@gold.iss.nus.sg (tim poston)
Subject: Re: No looking at your neighbors' papers....
Reply-To: tim@iss.nus.sg (tim poston)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.165823.24732@ornl.gov> de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:

<  Saving mankind is closer,
<   but still not good enough.  What I want to save is the current state of the
<   planet.  

Don't worry; God does daily backups on Turing tape.
The `save' option was one of the first things She created.

________________________________________________________________________________
                          "Sig.sig, mademoiselle?"
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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: I will vote for Clinton if ...  [REPOST]
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:21:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Gallifrey - Home of the Timelords
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu

In article <1992Oct15.034149.11160@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.225858.16983@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
>
>>Nobody (but you, so far) is equating tort reform with denying rights.
>>I don't want to deny your right to legal recourse in the event of
>>malpractice; I merely want to make sure you get more than your lawyer
>>does.
>
>	Then you want to deny me the right to pay my council whatever
>I choose.  The whole point of tort reform is putting restrictions on
>the individuals right to sue. You either want to make it more difficult
>for me to sue my doctor by restricting the amount that I can spend on
>a lawyer, or make it more dangerous to sue by making me liable for reverse
>costs, or you want to limit the amount that I can receive for my injury.

Yup.

>>I doubt that. We've got hundreds of seats up for grabs in Congress, and
>>there is a substantial anti-incumbent mood in America. Bush may have
>>problems passing legislation to help America and it's economy if he
>>faces a Democratic Congress (like he has lately with the much-needed
>>capital gains tax), but who knows what'll happen next month?
>
>
>	Sorry bud, but it looks like we're not only looking at a
>democratic congress, but we're looking at *more* democrats in the
>Senate and a continuing majority in the house. It's a good thing 
>Bush won't have to deal with that, huh?

More demos? Where did you get that from? I think there's a strong possibility
that we'll have many more reps in the House. And I believe, that come
election day, we'll have one in the White House again. I give the public
a lot more credit than does the media -- I think they'll remember the
last time a democratic executive and legislative got together.

						- greg
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: That Pesky $4 Trillion Debt!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:44:31 GMT
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content

csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes:
: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
: >
: >Funny, I don't remember that the country was $4 trillion in the hole when
: >we had a Democratic President and Democratic Congress.  Guess we need a
: >Republican President to *really* crank-up the spending!
: 
: Weren't the first 2 years of the Republican President with a Republic
: Congress???  (1980-1982)

Republicans gained the majority in the Senate in 1981, for the first time
since the 80th Congress (1947-1949).  The Republians had a majority in
the Senate in the 97th, 98th, and 99th Congresses (1981-1987).

The Democrats have held a majority in the House since 1949.

--
Michael Adams (aka StarOwl)	 		"Republicans understand the
Internet:  StarOwl@uiuc.edu			 importance of bondage between
Bitnet:    FREE1217@UIUCVMD			 parent and child."
Anonymous: wi.5467@n7kbt.rain.com			-- Dan Quayle
UUCP:      ...!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!StarOwl                                    

Marrou/Lord in '92



Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: testing
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:09:38 GMT

In article <serdar.719111929@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au> serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas) writes:
>bush-hq@campaign92.org (Bush/Quayle '92) writes:
>
>>This is a test of the Bush auto-posting network.
>
>>If this had been an actual post, it might have said
>>something interesting.
>
>Like, 'read my bits, no new taxes' perhaps?

"No new vaxes?"




--
"Moors."  "Moops."  "Moors."  "Moops."  Psssssssssssss.....
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals 5-2298)
Subject: Re: Where will Bush want to have his library ? Maine or Texas
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:52:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.162022.12735@news.acns.nwu.edu>, lyman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kenneth Casey) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct13.150035.26288@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
|> >
|> >   Next year, the Bush Presidential Library will need to be built. My 
|> >question is, where will Bush want the library be built ?  Texas or Maine  
|> > 
|> >   
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 	I think the people of the U.S. should put it in one of the
|> 
|> 
|> vacant downtown storefronts in Detroit. If we hang on a while GM headquarters
|> may be available!


When President Bush leaves office his library will be located in College Station, Texas.


##############################################################################


The New Democratic Party mascot will be a condom because the condom
1) stands for inflation, 2) protects a bunch of pricks, 3) completely
halts production, and 4) gives a fales sense of security to the one
being screwed.... Have a good day, and please, remember to vote.

You can not be one kind of man and another kind of President.

Bush/Quayle 92

Fred Seals

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Mr. Bush Just doesn't understand
From: sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:49:29 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1b5d5fINNi11@fido.asd.sgi.com> aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer) writes:
>10/09/92:   Cincinnati, OH
>
>   BUSH:  "I'm standing with American principle.  It is wrong to 
>	   demonstrate against your country when your country's at war.
>	   And I'm not going to back away from it one single bit"
>
>..until tomorrow, I bet.
>
>George Bush obviously doesn't understand the role of dissent.  He keeps
>saying, "they shouldn't be [protesting] while our boys are dying halfway
>around the world", but ignores the fact that people are protesting
>*because* our boys are dying halfway around the world.
>

   Uh-oh, there go the reputations of Tom Paine (sp?) and the rest of
the founding fathers.

>..and just in case he forgets:
>
>                                  Amendment I
>
>	Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of 
>	religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or of 
>	the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, 
>	and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  Please don't bother and berate the Republicans with trivial things
like the Constitution when there are important principles like politics
at stake.

-- 
Jeff Sicherman
up the net without a .sig
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: A Vote for Perot is a Vote for Quayle
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:13:35 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Could GB's comments about Gov Clinton's vacation in Moscow on Larry King 
have been prompted by the New York Times revelations about the CIA providing 
false information about agriculture loans to Iraq? Things that make you go 
hmmm.

Things don't look good for the country. Consider a Bush victory.
Not only is the economy in the crapper...pardon my French...but
a 2nd Bush term looks like it might be spent as preoccupied with
[whispered] IMPEACHMENT problems as Richard Nixon's 2nd term.
[Well, "hissed" migh have been more accurate.] Obstruction of Justice, 
laddies, is definitely an impeachable offense. Presidents should 
tell the truth, particularly about people who are developing
Bad Things like nukes. Particularly when there are laws that
presidents are sworn to uphold involved. 

[Pardon me while I drain the Schadenfreude from my spleen.]
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> No one -- from sea to shining sea -- 
can tell us why we are having all this trouble with our Republic.
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Debate trivial nonsense
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:43:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH) said..
>
>Bush and Clinton are both southpaws... I don't know about Perot... I've
>never seen him write anything.

Perot, Clinton, and Bush are all left-handed, so the next president of 
the US will be a southpaw.  

(Unless something happens to Bush -- Dan Quayle is right-handed)

Sorry if I just scared you there.  :-)  It is a rather frightening thought.

Allan
-- 
Allan Schaffer   x2160                    "Things have been tough, but 
aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com              they haven't been that tough."
aschaffe@netcom.com                                   - George Bush   10/4/92
For a free copy of Bill Clinton's economic recovery plan, call (501) 372-1992
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From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Slick Willy's Peace Movement
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:45:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

ktitus@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

>It was the people of his own state of Arkansas who came up with the nickname
>of Slick Bill originally. Scary.

Not exactly. It was ONE persone, yes from Arkansas, who came up with it.
He was a newspaper editor who had developed a personal grudge against
Clinton and made the name up for no other reason than to spite him.

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Newsgroups: alt.poltics.perot,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Perot's media schedule.
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:44:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.bush
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: joec@fid.morgan.com's message of 14 Oct 92 17:27:46 GMT

joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins) writes:
|According to todays paper, Ross Perot has purchased
|30 minutes at 10:30pm (EDT) NBC this Friday and
|60 minutes at 8pm (EDT) ABC this Saturday.

And the title of the Friday infomercial is "Solutions."

*This* I must watch.

--
Peace.
                           "If I could find a way to get [Saddam Hussein] out
                            of there, even putting a contract out on him, if
                            the CIA still did that sort of a thing, assuming
                            it ever did, I would be for it."
                                           -- Richard Nixon
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Democrats & Hippocracy
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:53:01 EDT

In article <BvqEJ8.8zt@agora.rain.com>, robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:
>   What is hippocracy?
> 

As I understand it, it means 'Rule by Hippos'. Hippocracy is particularly
prevalant in the rain forests of the Congo, but I may be mistaken.

-Garrett
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Bush- a sleazy scumbag!
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:03:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:

>In article <Oct.8.15.59.13.1992.8416@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
>shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) wrote:
>> 
>> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <92281.231404RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,
>> ><RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> wrote:

>Add to this that he refuses to come clean about it, letting bits of
>information trickle out, and you get, in my view, sleezy.

Since I already ranted about this in an earlier post, I won't do it 
again.  All I can say is if this is how you see things perhaps you
should clean your glasses or get your eyes checked.  You would
flunk miserably in detective school.  You connect things that do 
not connect, hear things that people don't say, and filter your
information through your own warped preconceptions before 
coming to a warped conclusion.  Feeding you information and
receiving a conclusion is kind of like playing a record on a phonograph
with a bad needle.


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: wag5@quads.uchicago.edu (john peter wagner)
Subject: Re: Bush the Demagogue!!!
Reply-To: wag5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:09:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.225420.1@acad.drake.edu> djp002@acad.drake.edu writes:
>Bush the Demagogue!
>
>	As a political science major, I have watched the last two presidential
>elections with keen interest. I have been extremely disappointed and dismayed
>with the state of political campaigning in America.
>	In my class covering the Presidency, we were told that a demagogue is
>an individual that plays on people's fears in order to advance his or her
>cause.  This individual usually obscures the real issues as well. Ever since
>the time I first came to know Mr. Bush, the 88 election, I have come to the
>conclusion that our President is a classic demagogue.

>issues that effect people in 1992, not 1968!		David Puderbaugh

	Hm. That's interesting.  I suppose the fact that he relies to a great
deal upon his record, most notably in Desert Storm, as well as his 
'America 2000' and 'Trust' are examples of playing on people's fears?
If anyone is a 'demagogue,' would it not be Clinton who has promised many
opposing things which he can by no means all deliver? Does that not fit the
definition of demagoguery? Or does that not fit with your professor's
defintion? Ask the professor if he felt it was some
duty or obligation to teach his students in such a way that
they would act in a correct manner.


				John

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From: pjm@lilith (Pat Monardo)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Democrats: READ it and WEEP!
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:46:23 GMT
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs

In article <1992Oct16.150125.14456@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.204844.25611@meaddata.com> johnt@meaddata.com (John 
>Townsend) writes:
>>     The study shows that the United States is farthest ahead in the 
>service
>> sector, which now employs three out of four American workers.
>
>A good point.  The official trade surplus statistics only include 
>manufactured goods.  I've read a few articles recently that have suggested 
>that if services and consulting that US firms supply to foriegn nations 
>were included in these figures that we might actually have a surplus.  One 
>example would be all the money that Red Adair and his firefighters made in 
>Kuwait.

what about software? companies ship tapes and claim the value is $100.
in reality it is often $100,000,000.

-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org
From: bowler@athena.mit.edu (Bert Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: GEORGE BUSH, STOP THE RED-BAITING
Date: 8 Oct 1992 14:13:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>Explain me why
>
> Clinton renounced his citizenship??

Clinton did NOT renounce his citizenship.

> Why Clinton didn't attend any of his classes his second year at Oxford??

I believe that a Rhodes scholarship is for one year.  Granted he did not
take his exams, but that is not unusual for a Rhodes scholar.  Anyway, just
becuase he didn't fufill all his scholastic obligations doesn't make him
any less of an American.  Come on, grow up.  I would be willing to guess
that you dropped a class or cruised through something in your academic
career, does that make you a commie?

> Why Bill Clinton smears Bush also??

Bill Clinton puts forth a plan that will help America.  Granted he is
smearing George Bush's woeful economic record all over the country.  But
isn't that what the election is about?  Why should we be subjected to four
more years of a "Do-nothing" presidency?

> Why Bill Clinton is on both sides of every issue??

George Bush is the biggest flip flopper around.  What about grain supports,
selling planes to the Taiwanese, etc.?

> Why anyone in there right mind would vote for Clinton??

Because, unlike Bush, he has a plan that will take this country forward. 
He doesn't believe in "doing whatever it takes to get elected."  He will
actually do something about the economic ills that plague this country,
instead of saying that the "country is not in a recession."


>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Richard Dyrda                    | " They counted on America to be  
>Idaho National Engr. Laboratory  |   passive, they counted wrong!!" 
>c/o School of Nuclear Engineering| 
>    Purdue University            |      President Ronald Reagan 
>(208) 526-4050                   |        after bombing Libya 
>=-=-=-=-= JFK, LBJ, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton =-=-=-=-=
>                  ... and for Liz!! H Hubert Hunphrey

Seems to me as though you've been hanging out a little too close the the
reactor.

-bert smith
Volunteer Clinton/Gore Email Team

Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: testing
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:18:49 GMT

bush-hq@campaign92.org (Bush/Quayle '92) writes:

>This is a test of the Bush auto-posting network.

>If this had been an actual post, it might have said
>something interesting.

Like, 'read my bits, no new taxes' perhaps?

serdar
-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Comrade Clinton
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.011931.14765@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>In <1992Oct12.122119.14482@meaddata.com> joem@meaddata.com (Joe Mehrle) writes:

>>Well much to the chagrin of all the REPUBLICANS the FBI announced late
>>Friday that there are NO PAGES MISSING from the file it all appeared
>>to be a mistake, convenient for all the Rush L., Republican, and right
>>wing fans isn't it.  Apparently the FBI worries Bill will be the next
>>president and they want to clean up their act before he gets in.  This
>>was the WORST inference and fabrication yet coming from the President
>>himself, lets throw this ass out of office.  

>It's worse than that: Newsweek continues to report this story in the
>10/19/92 issue.  The Bush campaign professes innocence but the same
>official who sic'd the FBI on Clinton because she was so 'appropriately'
>concerned about the potential political implications, was none other than
>Asst. Sect. of State for Consular Affairs Elizabeth Tamposi. This is the
>same woman who called the embassies in Britain and Scandinavia and insisted
>that there be an immediate investigation of their files by the senior
>embassy official in order to see if they had any information on Clinton
>from when he was a student in Europe!!!

>This woman is a Bush political appointee and her protestations in Newsweek
>that her introduction of the FBI into the phoney claim Clinton's passport file  had been doctored was all innocent and not connected to the political
>campaign is now an obvious lie.  Her contacts with the embassies were
>outside of normal channels, violated procedures, and were clearly focused
>at involving the highest levels of their staffs in an effort to find some
>mud on Clinton.  She has become a political operative within the State
>Department and should be removed from office for her abuses.

Oh come on.  If you removed every Republican who broke the law from
office, the executive branch would be vacant.

Then again...

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Orioles 1993 World Series Champions
niepornt@phoenix.    | Mike Mussina 1992 AL Cy Young Winner
   princeton.edu     | Roland Hemond: SIGN BARRY BONDS!!!!!!!!
Vote Clinton/Gore '92.   Four more weeks!!!   		"Bloody urine"
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