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From: gregk@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Gregory Krueger)
Subject: Re: Save Me!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:28:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <0096505A.E137AF00@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
|> We all know women who have rescue fantasies (Prince Charming'll come along and
|> take me away from all this, etc.), but do men ever have "rescuer" fantasies?
|> 
|> Do men ever want to "sweep a girl off her feet"?  

Granted I am not every man, but yes, "sweeping a girl off her feet" is 
definately something that I would consider cool to do.  It just seems
so hard to do amymore, what with all the movies destroying romance and
stuff like that.  I ocasionally have rescuer fantasies too.  They just
kind of seem to come from the old society norms that we all know about...


|> 
|> Okay, so I'm bored....
|> 
|> Cheryl


Me too.....

Greg

gregk@longs.lance.colostate.edu



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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 13:59:01 MST
From: <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Now, This is a Tricky One...(Help, please!)

This really is a tricky one.  Because it all depends on the
individual.  There is no one way to approach this.  For me, the
best possible approach is being direct, because I am a very direct,
to-the-point person.  But, what is she like?
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Complete stangers/friends/now what???
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:04:21 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec16.235404.909@Virginia.EDU> jrc2k@Virginia.EDU ("Roxie Conley") writes:
>	Hey, I know just how you feel... there's this guy in
>one of my classes who I sort of knew at the beginning of the
>semester and now we're really good friends.  One of my
>roommates is dating one of his roommates, thanks to our (well,
>mostly his) Cupid-skills, so we're over there sometimes, we
>helped them decorate their X-mas tree, and we went over to
>study a couple of nights ago.  I really really like him but I
>don't think he knows, and now I'm not going to see him for a
>month!  AAAAARGH!
>
Remember, absence make the heart grow fonder. If he likes you now,
he will appreciate more after not seeing you for a while.

>	BUT!  He's driving me to the bus station after my last
>exam so I can go home, since everybody I might get a ride with
>is leaving before I can.  And we're having dinner together.
>Good possibilities there.
>
That sounds good to me. Just remember to show how you feel. No need to
make a show of it, just don't be afraid to show it. Then when he is 
ready to believe you like him, he will know it.


Good Luck,
Michael.
From: pezzillo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Amy J. Pezzillo)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: ...Guy That Makes Them Laugh?NOW: Accepting love, eyes, etc.
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:14:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>I guess my original point wasn't clear - I was trying to say that the
>shortcoming was in _myself_.  More often than not, I have a hard time
>believing that a girl/woman could care about me or my problems.  Not
>because I'm cynical or anyhting like that, but it just won't sink in.
>I have a pretty giving nature.  Maybe subconsciously I feel guilty about
>receiving affection or something.  Not guilty, that's not it.  It's more
>like it just doesn't FIT or something.  Odd, eh?
>
>
Ah!  I see what's going on here.  We have a primary breakdown of
communication in our society.  You see, women are brought up to think
(consciously or uncounsciously)  that we're supposed to solve a man's
problems, make it "all better," etc.  Part of the phenomenon of
wanting to be needed.  The problem seems to be, then, that no one is
telling the *men* that the women are supposed to take emotional care
of them and solve their problems!   ;)

Hey, better yet, wouldn't it be neat if society raised us to expect
interdependency?  You know, like where you each take care of each
other...what a cool concept. Then everyone would have the security of
being taken care of while feeling the pleasure and neededness of
taking care of someone else.

ajp
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Save Me!
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:11:16 GMT
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In article <0096505A.E137AF00@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>Do men ever want to "sweep a girl off her feet"?  

Yup! But I think my broom's too small... (or that's what my ex said...  ;-))

>(Unrelated)  Doesn't anyone believe in love at first sight anymore?  This is
>supposed to be the *romance* group, and I was wondering.  Is there no passion
>left in the world anymore?

I do. It's my victims that don't. :-(

>And about forgiveness...I think if my RP cheated on me, I'd have to get a
>shotgun.  But then, that's not *nice* is it?

Romance is not about nice, it's about getting the bastards before they get
you! ;-)

>All this talk about companionship seems kind of dull.  I'll take a rapid
>heartbeat any day!

Ditto, although a bit of rationality helps.

>Okay, so I'm bored....

Know what you mean! :-)

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From: epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary)
Subject: Re: More, Do Not try this at home .....
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:36:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.205926.14731@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>And it was soooo much fun watching these two do ManlyMenStuff...that's
>>what those muscles are for guys... *grin*
>>Mary
>
>Well, that's what *some* of those muscles are for.... >;-)
>
>rip

Those *are* the muscles you were using that night, weren't they?  I
mean, did we miss something when you two and Drieux retreated to the
garage?

Mary
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: amorgan@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: Let's Make the World a More Loving Place
Originator: amorgan@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:30:35 GMT

In article <1gknluINNdns@bHARs12c.bnr.co.uk> 
  dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:

>I hope Travis is using "European" in the "continental European" sense.
>The Frenchies, etc. are certainly well into hugging, but us Brits are well
>at arms length.

Interesting.  I was born in England but raised all over the US and
I am big on touching and physical contact.  I am marginally aware enough
to know when people don't like it but I really enjoy finding someone
who does.

>Stewart Tansley

C Frog
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:58:19 GMT
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In article <Bz3p70.AzL@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (** DECKER **) writes:
>What do you do when someone says "I really like you, but it'll never be
>anything more"?

Say: "OH NO!!! NOT AGAIN!!!".

Then: cry a lot.

And then: prepare yourself for a long drawn out obsession.

Finally, either: realise the futility of it all and think about ending things;
Or: wake up to the fact that they weren't that nice a person after all --
but still lust after them like hell.

Eventually: find someone else to make the same mistakes over...


Well, it happens to me this way :-)

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From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: forgiveness
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:11:55 GMT

In article <7915@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, doughe@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Douglas E Helbling) writes:
>In article <aland.723998763@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> aland@cs.brandeis.edu writes:
>>adwright@iastate.edu () writes:
>>
>	have a right to expect fidelity.  Infidelity, no matter
>	how blatant or discreet, is a form of emotional abuse, and

Does anyone else think this sounds a little harsh?  We, as humans, are
fallible, we make mistakes... I don't think "abuse" really applies, unless this
is some sort of pattern in the relationship.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: alex@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Re: Do Women Really Want A Guy That Makes Them Laugh?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:02:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.100942.119668@marshall.wvnet.edu> rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>> 	2) A man that can help burden my sorrows, and allow me to help with
>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 	his. Pain is never easy to deal with, but with the right person, the
>        ^^^
>
>Is it just me, or do a lot of guys think that "aw, no girl would want to
>bother with my problems."
>
>
No, it's not just you.  It took me 9 months to even tell my current RP
anything I felt without just exploding at her.  Granted, during those
9 months she wasn't my RP, just a very good friend, but the net
result is the same.  I don't share pain, except when too much pressure
builds and I explode, then I can dole it out in nice, generous
quantities.  

                                                 -Alex
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From: jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb)
Subject: Re: Forgiveness Question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:51:41 GMT

beh@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (various Howellses) writes:


>As does telling someone else that
>you love them, when you are committed to another person.

Er, why can't I love more than one person (mom) (even if in different ways)?
(I'm not trying to split hairs, I just want everyone to be clear about what
they are saying).


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: kilborn@iastate.edu (Scott E Kilborn)
Subject: Need romantic way to propose
Summary: Need romantic way to propose
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:32:42 GMT

Well, here goes:

I am planning on asking my SO the big question soon and I need
some suggestions on neat ways to ask her.  I am hoping to not
spend a lot of money on this (i.e. no airplane banners, etc.)
but I want it to be something she will remember forever.

Please e-mail me ideas at:  kilborn@iastate.edu

or post origional ideas.

Thanx,

Scott Kilborn

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ss207tbe@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Request for help on paper topic.
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:14:33 GMT

		Hi, this is going to sound odd but I'm currently doing a paper
on tickling and ticklishness and all its social / psychological ramifications.
I figured this would be a fair to decent place to ask for people to e-mail me
privately with any and all experiences with being ticklish or tickling others.
Please include (if you feel it is appropriate) age, gender and ticklish
regions. Please, no foreplay/sordid stories. =)

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney)
Subject: Re: Let's Make the World a More Loving Place
Organization: Somewhere in the Twentieth Century
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:02:09 GMT

stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:

>It's a largely American thing, I think---I have
>noticed Europeans aren't bothered by proximity and casual contact,

Strange - most Europeans I know would state the exact opposite. Or
perhaps it's just that you're thinking of French and Italians (both 
extraordinarily affectionate (if that's the right term to use - 
somehow, I don't think it is) nationalities) while Europeans think of 
those touchy-feely Californians.

P.
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From: petitc@jec324.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: "We could still be friends"
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:38:08 GMT

csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (** DECKER **) writes:

>What do you do when someone says "I really like you, but it'll never be
>anything more"?

>I always promised to myself that I would never post anything like this,
>but there you go. I'm just interested in other people's reactions to this
>(probably common) scenario.


  Personally, I get angry and stop talking to the person for awhile, to get
some distance.  After awhile, I talk to the person again, as a friend.
But, it seems that, through nobody's fault, we just drift apart after that.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: where to meet possibles, East Bay...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:44:17 GMT


Where are the most popular places where a lonely person go to meet
members of the opposite sex, in the East Bay? For some reason I
don't have a clue.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: The Scariest Words In The World?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:22:45 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec8.195233.394@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>macl6441@mach1.wlu.ca (macleod heather) writes:
>> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
...
>> AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGH!!  My biggest problem with my SO of four 
>> years!! Almost every time I say something to him, he doesn't say 
>> anything back. When I ask him why, he says he didn't think it 
>> needed an answer!  Is this some sort of a guy thing, or is it just 
>> him?
>
>YES! it's a guy thing. horrible, i know, but try not to take it too 
>seriously. 
>
I think about two-thirds of the men have this problem and one-third
of the women, so I wouldn't call it a guy thing. Besides, calling it
a guy thing solves nothing.

>            my RP goes on & on & on about what she did, how she's 
>feeling, etc, and i love it. but when she finally stops i can't think 
>of anything to say except the occasional "uh-huh", "that's nice", or 
>"that's bad".
>
You aren't expected to say anything more when your RP is talking. You
should be showing that you are paying attention, and communicating your
feelings about whatever she is saying through tone of voice and body
language. You are letting her unload. She is probably expecting you to
reverse roles occasionally and unload on her.

>i've been trying to train myself to be better about this. so what exactly
>is it y'all want to -hear-? i'm serious & quite curious about this.
>just a little affirmation to let you know we heard? something completely
>off the topic? response in kind? there probably are no hard & fast
>rules, but rules of thumb would be an improvement over nothing.
>
There are two sorts of things your RP probably wants to know: what your
current emotional state is, and what your attitudes towards everything
are. So it is not what you say, it is the way you say it. It may seem 
like babbling to you, but talking about just about anything will help
convey your feelings. 

Deborah Tanner has written a couple of good books on this subject 
(differences in communication styles between men and women, how they 
come about and how they cause difficulties). She sees men as 
hierarchy-oriented, where factual information flows between peers, and
orders between all others. So for men, communication about anything 
other than dry facts tends to be seen as defining a superior and an
inferior. On the other hand, she sees women as communal, so the greater
the their connectedness to all others, the higher their status (self-worth?). 
This is simple-minded, as are all discussions of what is masculine and what
is feminine, but her examination of miscommunication is very interesting.

Michael.
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From: oz1kuz@aud2.aud.auc.dk
Subject: Hey somebody help me !!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Aalborg University Center, Denmark
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:24:40 GMT

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       
First I hope that you can understand my english. I am not the
best to it.

It is the first time I use this NEWS but I want some help to
solve my "little" problem.

For some time ago I have meet a girl from Lithuania. I was fall
in love with her the first time I saw her. I have been out with
her some times and she was very nice. I had a feeling of that
she also were fall in love with me. That feeling had I until
yesterday were I was visiting her.

We were talking about many things and then she said something
about another guy there were jealousy on me. He had said to her
that she should choose between him and me. She said that she
didn't want to do that because there was nothing between us. The
only thing I didn't find out were if she was his girl or not,
because she wasn't say anything about it. She just said that we
were friends.

My problem is now that I don't know what to do. I don't know if
she are free or not. And if she not are free shall I then take
care of that or shall I just go on as if she were free. The only
thing I know is that I like her very much. So much that I almost
would do everything what she would like me to do.

I hope that there are somebody out there who have a good idea
that I can use or just something that can make me a little bit
more happy.

My address are: OZ1KUZ@AUD.AUC.DK or IN%"OZ1KUZ@AUD.AUC.DK".

With lot of hope to get any advice from somebody

Leif.
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From: kjberte@cray.com (Kurt Bertelsen)
Subject: Re: I've just been "LJBF"ed
Reply-To: kjberte@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:36:38 CST

>
> 
>Why does it hurt soooo BAD?!  
>

Excuse me.  That should be:

Why does it hurt soooo FUCKING BAD?! 

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From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: More Poems
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:49:42 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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Not sure if my poems really fit alt.romance, but heck,
you can stop me now, can ya? :)
Enjoy...

#1

Floating away on a rainbow in the sky,
don't care what happens, I just want to fly.
Join me on this cloud, flying high in the sky,
We'll have so much fun, just put your hands in mine.

Floating away I'm so happy in the sky,
flying away from those desperate lies.
Here I am, flying, soaring in the air.
I don't really understand, I don't really care.

Fly with me,
on a journey to the stars.
Fly with me,
together we will go far.

Fly with me,
to a land full of light.
Fly with me,
on a rainbow, tonight.

Wishing upon, upon a rainbow in the sky,
don't really care, just let me never die. 
Join me on this journey, fly high in the sky,
We'll have so much fun, just you and I.

Floating away, I'm so happy in the sky,
flying away from those tears I've cried.
Here I am, flying, soaring in the air.
I don't really understand, I don't really care.

Stay with me,
join me on my journey,
fly with me,
Together we will be.

Stay with me,
stay with me tonight,
fly with me,
on a fantastic flight,
tonight.
			12/13/92


#2
To Those with the Xmas-Blues:

You write the saddest songs,
and I hear the pain inside.
But you don't need my shoulder to cry on.
You've blocked me from your mind.
Someone else has hurt you,
and I know he hurt you deep,
now I know the reasons,
for this barrier you keep.
But I know this is useless,
cause this poem you'll not see.
I plan to erase these verses,
and forget my hopes for thee.

I might say that I don't care,
but I know inside I'm lying.
I want to tell you but I don't dare,
you already know I'm dying.
So this pain, alone, I'm left to bear,
'cus I know there is no denying.
You don't need me to be there,
when you lie there crying.
		12/16/92

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