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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: NeXT Step on RS/6000?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:17:26 GMT

Virtual Dave writes
> 
> Hi,
> I once heard someone say you could run NeXTStep on an IBM RS/6000
> workstation because they both use the Mach kernal. I called
> all over the country talking to NeXT and IBM, and no one seems
> to have a definitive answer. Finally someone in Cambridge suggested
> I ask on the net. He mentioned Carnegie Mellon in particular. 
> 

The tail I heard from an IBM Sales Engineer was that NS1.0 was indeed  
ported over.  However they weren't using a kernel that implemented  
threads, so what Next did with threads had to be done with separate  
processes.  So what had been done with shared memory in threads had to  
be done with inter-process communication with processes.  This  
apparently is a much slower way to do anything.

I'm no kernel guru, so I may have munged the details.

Anyway, NS1.0 even on their flagship systems apparently was a real dog,  
making even X-Windows/motif look spritely by comparison.


But I tell you: If Next offered a complete op system for IBM RS6000's   
I'd have a P.O. faxed to them as fast as I could get my bosses  
signature.
From: tswan@jpmorgan.com (Todd Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: compiling top...
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:10:03 GMT
Reply-To: tswan@jpmorgan.com

I'm trying to compile top on the NeXT.  It wants an include file called <machine/pte.h>.  It doesn't exist on either  
3.0 or 2.2.  It doesn't appear to have a replacement either.  This file on the Sun reports itself as the hardware  
page table entry.  Is there a way around this?

Please reply via e-mail.

Thanks,
Todd
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Suggestion for order tracking
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:39:08 GMT
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

I think someone else brought this up a while ago but I don't know what if any
outcome there was, but considering all of the complaints directed at NeXT for
their shipping schedule (or lack thereof), perhaps they should implement some
sort of order tracking software that someone can telnet in to, give an order
number and maybe some other form of authentication (zip code?) and get the
status of your order.

Sounds neat in theory, at least.
------
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------
Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as
they ought to be.  Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out
a cynic's eyes to improve his vision.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Re: Manipulating tar.Z's
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:39:23 GMT

Allen B writes
> I'm not sold yet.  The Workspace seems to always work in
> place, which is very bad in my situation.  I don't want to
> uncompress/tar things in the Archives every time I or one
> of my users wants to look at them- and you don't want me to
> either.
> 

The more I use Nextstep, the more of a unix geek I get.  (Ok, I spend  
half my time in a Stuart window...)

Anyway, I define the following two aliases:
alias zcatt 'zcat \!* | tar -tf -'
alias zcatx 'zcat \!* | tar -xf -'

Advantage:  I can open a Stuart window on the machine that actually has  
the hard disk, type zcatt file.tar.Z, and not have to spew the stuff  
back and forth across the net.  It also doesn't paralyse my workspace  
while it's crunching away.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: How to get local man pages show up like NeXT's in DL?
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:01:25 GMT

I've installed a number of man pages for local applications in /usr/local/man  
(that's the root of the local manpage tree, that is) and built a 'whatis' file  
there describing the manpages found there.

I wanted to use Digital Librarian to search through them, and I can get it to  
build the index (3.0 DL builds the index whereas 'ixbuild' doesn't due to a bus  
error) but the titles come out like:

man1/blah.1
man8/sample.8

instead of with the descriptions built in the whatis file like the NeXT  
manpages do:

blah - prints "blah" to the screen
sample - prints "sample" somewhere else

All I'm doing to get these two examples above is clicking on the local man page  
or ManPages (NeXT-supplied) icon and then clicking on "List Titles" (first and  
second example, respectively).

I thought it might have something to do with the dot files in  
/NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages so I linked all of them to my local man  
page location and rebuilt the index from scratch.  Still, the listing comes up  
as "man1/blah.1" lines instead of "blah - does something wonderful".

What should I do to make my local man pages listing show up all pretty and nice  
in DL like NeXT's man page listing does?

Thanks.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail ok
From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: There is no NeXTSTEP 3.0.1! (as far as I know)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:27:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Some time back, I wrote that I was using "NeXTSTEP 3.0.1" except I didn't
put quotes or smileys around it. As the subject line states, I know of no
official NS 3.0.1; I only call it that since I have seen some bugs in it
and wouldn't be surprised to see an interim release.

I was joking; making fun of Apple's convention of six significant figures
in their software releases.

The more observant of you will realize that this is my second retraction
in as many days.  I hope that you will accept my plea of temporary brain-fade 
due to increased stress and coffee consumption.  I will proofread my posts
more thoroughly in the future.

David Basiji
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: NEXT CDROM on a Mac
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:18:38 GMT

I hope I'm not being a pest, that perhaps my previous posts never made it..


Has anyone tried to use the NeXT CDROM on a Mac?  Got it working?

Next Tech support says that they have not tried it.  

Any suggestions (within reason) greatly appreciated.


Chris Conley
thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu


Today's a religious holiday.  Uhm.... the Holy Day of Maximum Occupancy..

        - Homer Simpson
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: right now
In-reply-to: eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR's message of 11 Oct 92 03:39:07 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:35:20 GMT

In article <199210110339.AA22649@cnam.cnam.fr> eronald@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Edmund Ronald) writes:

   If I understand rightly there is no word processor bundled anymore on the
   NeXT. This is a giant step backwards. It means that troff and nroff once
   again become the de facto lingua franca, although no one knows how to use
   them anymore :-)
No, but there's emacs 18.55 (not fully functional) and TeX 3.141
(Superb!). 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sra@nxstep.com (Rich Andrews)
Subject: Re: hot key for unix expert preference
Organization: DIGICON Corporation Bethesda, Maryland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:08:42 GMT

Jeff Fields (jfields@pinball.arcade.uiowa.edu) wrote:
: The way I handle this is to leave the Preferences in non-expert mode, 
: but put private/vm/swapfile up on the shelf. Then if I want to check my 
: swapfile size or change to expert mode, I just click there. If I want to switch back to non-expert mode, the Update Viewers (cmd-u) command takes care
: of that. Very easy.
: 
: Jeff Fields

Here is a nice idea too:  Edit /.hidden (3.0, 2.x?) and remove the files that
are frequently used (e.g. /tmp).  The /.hidden file will specify which root
level directories are hidden by the deselection of Preference's Unix Expert.

Rich Andrews
DIGICON Corporation
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Where IS the help key?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:22:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Oct3.182958.7588@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu (M  
Carling) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.172149.11946@tamsun.tamu.edu> andrewd@tamsun.tamu.edu  
> (Andrew T Duchowski) writes:
> > Just wondering - some applications claim: "just press the help key
> > on the keyboard".  I can't find it on my old keyboard (the one with 
> > the L shaped Return key).
> On the old keyboards, hold down Control and Alternate together.

Want to see something amusing?  While running a non-help
application (like NewsGrazer), hold down the help key
and click on something.  A panel will pop up.  If you forget
and keep the help key down, hitting the panel's button
will make another one pop up! 

Allen B (Well, I thought it was funny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: _nextstep_ television show!
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:31:22 GMT

Cable-TV channel "The Discovery Channel" has a show called _nextstep_ running
on Tuesday nights at 9:00 pm Eastern time.  The show is slightly similar to
the show _Beyond 2000_.

Has anyone else seen this show?

Isn't the word "nextstep" copyrighted by NeXT, Inc.?  (or whatever the
appropriate legal term is...)


Chris
From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NFSExtend for 3.0
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:42:56 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.sys.next.misc, jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a version of NFSExtend modified for 3.0?
>Thanks.

Yes.  It's a NeXT app now. (it was a shell file before)

We got a copy from ask_next@next.com

Curt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha  Rao)
Subject: Pict pasting in Executor 1.2.1 ????
Keywords: MS WORD, Conver t to PICT, Executor..
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:59:53 GMT



Are there any programs on the NeXT that can convert from NeXT TIFF or EPS into  
PICT format? I have just received my copy of Executor 1.2.1 and I need to do  
the following:

(1) Create an EPS on the Next.

(2) Convert it into PICT on the Next.

(3) Run MS WORD under Executor and past the PICT into a word document.

Is this possible? How?


Thanks.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: optical disk problem
Keywords: optical disk
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:10:50 GMT

In article <BvqGq9.43y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> J-Beauchamp@uiuc.edu writes:
>
>After 1.5 years of casual use, I am suddenly experiencing a problem with the
>optical drive on my NeXT cube. Often when I access it, the drive spins down. 
>It eventually spins back up again, and I can usually complete the operation,
>but this spells trouble for sure! 
>
>Is there an easy fix? Is it just a dust problem?
				    ^^^^

		Sure enough, the problem is dirt, dirt in the fuel line.

				C.W. Moss


>
>Jim Beauchamp


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From: al@expovision (Andre_Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: REVOLUTIONARY PROFESSIONAL FRENCH DICTIONARY & SPELLING CHECKER
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:47:09 GMT
Reply-To: al%expovision@CAM.ORG
Distribution: US & CANADA
Organization: Edition Electronique Expovision inc.


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                 October 1992

ANNOUNCING

PRO LEXIS

A NEW AND REVOLUTIONARY PROFESSIONAL FRENCH DICTIONARY & SPELLING CHECKER
for WriteNow AND WordPerfect ON THE NeXT
Now available in the US and Canada
Speed: 6,000 words per second (20 pages per second)
Interface: Global listing of errors with word and error counts
Dictionary: 500,000 words
New "rSg"  technology (Radical - Suffix - Grammar) 
Easy to use: all mistakes identified in a scrolling window
Real-time showing of selected mistakes
Errors can be corrected in any order
Corrections in any text bloc (inclined, linked...)
Possible single step correction of repeated errors
Grammatical analysis, elisions, composed personal pronouns, 
irregular plurals, invariable past participles and more...
Complete verb conjugations (all tenses, including the pronominal form)
Possible corrections of accents on capital letters
Correction of ligatures   and   (chef d' uvre, coup de c ur, c tera)
Unlimited personal dictionaries (can import technical vocabulary and foreign language words)
Temporary dictionary with user defined settings 
Fully compatible with NeXTStep 3.0
Less than 500k on disk (decompressed)
Version 1.1a shipped with Main Dictionary and Proper Nouns Dictionary
Demo available on NeXT CD-ROM "Third Party Demonstration Software -Q2 1992"
Single or site licenses available
In the US and Canada, contact:

Expovision Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue)
Subject: Re: Uncompressing .Z files
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:29:26 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc

Here is a summary of all the reponses:

When you 'compress' something, compress doesn't save the file permissions. 
So
this   means that when you uncompress all you get for file permissions is
whatever is your   default (probably 644) is.  On the other hand when you
'tar'
something first, and then   'compress' the tar file, tar saves the
permissions
and when you extract it you get the same   file back.

If the file was an executable, under 2.1 (3.0 inspector does not carry the
relevant permissions) use the inspector in the WorkSpace to look at the
file  
permission and turn on all the executable bits OR open a Terminal window
and
type   'chmod a+x file_name'. For more info, search in Digital Librarian
for
"chmod".

THANKS TO ALL WHO RESPONDED...

 Eddy Cue
 cue@apple.com

In article <cue-131092020831@17.1.7.157>, cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue) wrote:
> 
> I am trying to uncompress some Next files (.Z) with Opener. All .tar.z
> files uncompress fine, but all .z files uncompress to a document. It
> doesn't recognize the contents as an application. The original files are on
> a DOS disk. Any ideas?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:20905 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:5863
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Performance comparison with SUN
From: markp@cranham.cc.earlham.edu (Mark Pearson)
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:39:37 EST
Reply-To: markp@cranham.cc.earlham.edu

OK, I know that this has been trodden through before, but I'd like some numbers

(or a number) comparing the performance of a turbo color NeXTstation (or
NextDimension) with a Sun 10. I have a poor misguided faculty type person who
can just about handle System 7 but who is desparate for the most powerful
machine in the Universe. No amount of reasoning can persuade him that what he
gains in program execution time he will definitely lose in system
administration time. So what I need to know is, approximately how many
Meaningless Indicators of Performance (MIPS) does the NeXT turbo generate
compared with a mighty Sun 10 (or whatever)?

--
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Earlham College, Richmond, In 47374
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NeXT mail     :         markp@cranham.cc.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Subject: Re: TeX problem
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:53:44 GMT

I still need help!

In article <1992Oct11.223802.2713@tamsun.tamu.edu> I wrote:
> Something has gone wrong with my TeX/dvips installation.

Further investigation reveals that the problem apparently lies
with dvips.  Old dvi files that used to be previewable and
printable now show up as repetitions of a single character.

I thought dvips would be recreated by Install_TeX.  Was I
wrong?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: Can we save the Cube?  Was: Fed Up!
Organization: pnet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:05:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.070727.10510@netcom.com> sphere@netcom.com (Sam  
Goldberger) writes:
- philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
- > 
- >I bought a Cube for precisely the same reasons you did. And for precisely
- >those reasons, it would take an act of God to get me to buy another NeXT
- >system.
- 
- Cube owners: don't despair quite yet. Some folks know of our efforts
- here at Spherical to keep the Cube alive and viable. To date, these
- have included:
- 
- 	1) The EPB (Enhanced Processing Board) 
- 	2) Maintaining an inventory of cheap, new optical drives
- 	3) Researching (and ultimately rejecting) the possibility
- 	of "SCSI-fying" the OD. 
- We're now at work on a new project that we believe will make
- the Cube the most desireable NeXT platform for some time to
- come. This consists of a process arbitration program that
- will automatically assign applications and processes to different
- boards in a multi-boarded Cube. 
- 
- We're also in discussion with a company that makes a C-Linda
- like product that simulates a shared memory environment over
- the net 
- 
- Now, a question--would you pay, let's say, $2500 to upgrade
- your Cube to the level of a Turbo Color Station? Please
- do send email, as this is not as goofy as it may sound.
- 
- Sorry for the long (and admitedly self-serving) post, but
- I love that black Cube and don't want to see it die, nor
- its faithful owners become depressed. Semper fidelis!
- Semper opticalus! Cubus aeternis!
- 
- ---------------------------------------------------------
- Samuel M. Goldberger	sphere@netcom.Com--NeXT Mail OK
- Spherical Solutions, 	47 Myrtle Avenue, Mill Valley, CA  94941
- 415.383.7512--voice     415.381.9556--fax
-  

 I have nothing but praise for Sam and his efforts to keep the Cube alive.  I  
bought my cube ( instead of a Color Station ) using the same reasoning Philip  
did, but I haven't given up yet.  
  Sams little tid bit about upgrading the cube to the level of a Turbo Color is  
very interesting.  I was thinking about this last night and came up with the  
following scheem,

  Make a 16 bit color board for the NeXT Cube and integrate the ADB so those of  
us who want it can get the ADB keyboard ( and whatever else we want ).  Throw  
in the new Adobe PixelBurst chip.  If this works as well as is advertised then  
the 16 bit color should SCREAM.  
  Now I thought about this, and I figure it wouldn't take up more than half of  
a the card even with 8 simm slots, so I thought, why not put a 486 motherboard  
on the other half?
  With this configuration you could develop and test for both architectures  
right in the one box.  You could even allocate a bit of disk space to dos apps  
( all of mine would be games =8-D ).

  Well, what do you think?
  Are you up to it Sam?  :-)

  Zeke
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: _nextstep_ television show!
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:19:36 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.sys.next.misc, pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros) writes:
>Cable-TV channel "The Discovery Channel" has a show called _nextstep_ running
>on Tuesday nights at 9:00 pm Eastern time.  The show is slightly similar to
>the show _Beyond 2000_.
>
>Has anyone else seen this show?

Yes. I thought it would be neat if they did a segment on NeXTSTEP.

>Isn't the word "nextstep" copyrighted by NeXT, Inc.?  (or whatever the
>appropriate legal term is...)

Trademark.  As far as I know, all you have to do to get a trademark status
is to use it commercially.  If you what to get it registered (so you can
put the r in a circle after your trademark, then you have to fill out some
paperwork.

And the only protection you get is that other companies in the same business
can't use the same trademark. (i.e. that can't do something that would make
thier customers think they were buying your product.)  The name of a T.V.
show would never be confused with a computer operating system, so there
is no problem with them using the nextstep name.

Curt Welch
From: pat%expovision@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to change the default search path?
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:50:52 GMT
Organization: Edition Electronique Expovision inc.


Bonjour all,

I need to create a  directory (/Apps) that will contain some apps. I  
already have a directory named /LocalApps (exported from a server on our  
net). 
Now the problem that I'm facing is how can I modify the default search  
path in order for the Workspace Manager to locate the apps in /Apps when I  
double-click on one of their documents?

Thanks in advance.

Patrique

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