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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      Re: System 6.0
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:06:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Jul27.111653.23387@crash.cts.com> johnf@gnh-digibits.cts.com (John Fulton) writes:
>OK, this may or may not be a system 6 bug, and it probably has been
>reported before, but anyway...
>
>I have two NDA word processors, and the same thing happens with both.  If
>I create and save a document to an open folder, when I close the NDA, the open
>folder does not show the document.  In other words, the system refreshes the
>pre-existing desktop but does not check to see whether anything has changed.
>
>I suspect, in fact, that the NDA word processors are at fault -- that they
>are not telling the operating system to refresh its data.

Starting with 6.0, there is a way for NDAs (or whatever) to inform the
Finder that there was a change to a particular folder.  (The EasyMount
Finder extension in 6.0 uses that when you create a new server alias.)

It would be nicer if the Finder noticed changes automatically.  There's
a "volume changed" notification mechanism in GS/OS, but making it work
well for the Finder's purposes is tricky (you can get lots of extra
window refreshes caused by the Finder itself making a change, and then
being told about it).

Still, if I get a chance I'll take a shot at it.  If that works then
tellFinderAboutChange could become a do-nothing operation.
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: tosintro.shk
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 22:44:06 GMT

In article <hj66937@pro-gallup.cts.com> samp@pro-gallup.cts.com (Sam Pemberton - SysAdmin) writes:
>Has part 13/18 of tosintro.shk been posted to comp.binaries.apple2?
>
>My site has all the other seventeen parts -- just missing part 13 of 18.

Someone's mailer must have barfed...I checked my system and all 18
parts had been posted.  If we still have it (binaries posts expire
quickly around here), I'll repost it.  If not, you can get the entire
file (in BinSCII/ShrinkIt format) from tybalt.caltech.edu in
pub/apple2/uploads.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!                      Fidonet: 1:209/765
(IIe (  TEMPORARILY OFFLINE    Apple II/IBM                     GEnie: S.ALFTER
 \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joe@smena.russia.msk.su (Joe Ratcatcher)
Subject: thanx from novice and few questions.
Reply-To: joe@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:27:49 +0300

Hello!

First of all I'd like to say THANX to all who tried to help me.
All that time I was digging in your information.

I am going to answer every one of you, but just let me begin...

BTW you are good people there!

I already began to write small programs (5 lines to look through the memory
for example).

and I have few questions more.

1. I have some doubts that I have ][e, when I turn it on, it shows something
like Apple A AE. Any ideas?

2. The char generator seems to be broken. The chip has 2 wires attached, and
I have twice capital letter sets, and no one of small letters.

3. I can now read/write text files, but how to access all the others? Binary,
for example?

4. How can I access the devices? Maybe anybody has a list of port addresses?
Where I can peek/poke with some result?

5. Why when I do HGR and then LINE 1,1,2,2 it types OUT OF MEMORY ERROR?

Why lowest part of screen remain text mode?

6. Where is the tail of not used 8192 bytes of screen memory?

7. How to copy files and system in DOS 3.3?

8. How to I/O hexadecimals in BASIC? $d0 or D0H it doesn't understand.

9. What is NOMON?

10. Is there more than 65k of memory and how can I access it with PEEK?

11. Can usual modem which I use in PC be attached, and how to manipulate?


NOTE: I have no software, FTP access, or documentation, and all it is very
hardly available here in Russia.

Best wishes,
                                            Ratcatcher


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP (Austin Phelps)
Subject: Re: Apple II RWTS codes.
Reply-To: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:24:55 GMT
Keywords: Apple //e FOREVER

chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu writes:

> >In the Steve Wozniak interview at Kansasfest, Woz claimed that the RWTS
> >routines were probably the most difficult code he had ever written, and he
> >doubted if _he_ could do it again! You sure are aiming high!
> 
> I'm sure he's just been polite. Word around is that he wrote a lot of it
> in only a couple of days...

And put together a DOS together in a couple of days. Beside in the book 
Understanding the Apple IIe that author claims that ProDOS READ_BLOCK is 
better and faster than RWTS.

Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP

"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Subject: DOS 3.3 Launcher
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:55:36 GMT

Summary:

All people that responded wanted the launcher to slow down to 1Mhz
without entering the control panel, at least as a default.

It seems as though both the ZIP and the Transwarp slow down to 1Mhz
when you toggle the speed register, so this means no accelerator
specific code is necessary.

Some people suggested that holding down the apple key on launch could
force high speed if 1Mhz was the default speed.

However, most people wanted some sort of configuration so they could 
set the launcher to slow down automatically for some programs, but not
for others.

A few people thought that the keyboard buffering option was useful also.

Majority rules - There will be configuration options to automatically
force a particular file to slow speed and keyboard buffering off.
The conversion program will give you the option of setting these options,
and the launcher will respect them (and restore them before quiting).

Of course, you can always enter the control panel and change them if
you so desire.

I'll certainly have it all done in the next few days, so stay tuned
(beta testers first).

John MacLean.
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          Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia.
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Finder Redrawing...
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:34:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <Bsxpp1.6Mz@news.udel.edu> lecates@bach.udel.edu (Roy LeCates) writes:
>A while back, I noticed that the Finder would sometimes redraw the
>screen quickly after returning from an application.  After experimenting
>a bit, I figured out that it only occured when returning from a 320 mode
>program.  (I'm sure everyone knows what I mean.)  Does anyone know why
>the Finder does this?

Yes--it's the Control Manager, foolishly believing that since the 640/320
mode recently changed it needs to force the screen to redraw because there
could be some scroll bars that are using the wrong "gray" color for the
page regions.

Of course, it's never necessary to redraw the screen right after the Control
Manager gets started.  In the next disk, it's smart enough to realize that.

(I put in some of the gray-scroll-bar stuff very *late* in the 6.0 project,
and nobody noticed the extra redrawing in time to fix it for that version.
This is a good example of a "cosmetic" bug.  It's not messing anything up,
it's just annoying.)
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ltchean@rambutan.iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean)
Subject: Re: New GS Freeware
Reply-To: ltchean@iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.053435.12608@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>
>Hey, how come he's not around here?  Why don't you ask him to join the
>conference over here and get to communicate with all those GS gurus like
>Steven Chiang, Jawaid Bayzar, Tim Meekins, Dave Lyons, hmmm... who else
>have I missed out?

John Koe? Andy? Thye Chean (Just kidding :)?

Just to say "Why don't you send this guy a letter? He might be too buzy to
read comp.sys.apple2, but a mail to him will encourage him."

I just did.

>- DOTW - :)

-- 
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    %%  and Avatar too.  %%   
          Lim Thye Chean: Lim is my surname. My name is Thye Chean.
     My address: LTCHEAN@ISS.NUS.SG, or 9, College Green, Singapore 1129 
From: billh@hplsla.hp.com (Bill Harris)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:09:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Sys 6 & Paintworks Gold
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2

Bryan Ogawa says:

>So you may want to look for how to patch it with a sector/block editor
>instead of with some sort of program.

Is there a program which is freeware which either patches PWG or is a sector/
block editor?  I have a copy of PWG I still run under the original launcher, 
because I have been unsuccessful in finding the correct location to patch
using a home-written program.

(It just dawned on me:  I don't think I have the latest version of PWG; maybe
that's the problem.)


Bill Harris
billh@lsid.hp.com      

Hewlett-Packard Co. 
Lake Stevens Instrument Division ms/330
8600 Soper Hill Road
Everett, WA 98205-1298 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rwilson@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson)
Subject: Re: Buffering in software
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:41:54 GMT

In article <r75mztd.payner@netcom.com>, payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes
>In article <1992Aug11.170916.7237@serveme.chi.il.us> kgapp@gagme (Kevin Gapp) writes:
>>Sean Eller writes
>> 
>>>
>>>Hi, I'm tired of sitting waiting for this damn imagewriter to print from
>>>AWGS and was wondering instead of buying a 32k buffer for the printer if
>>>there had been a program written that say intercepts the port calls for the
>>>printer and stores the data in a buffer and prints from a buffer in memory.
>>>Working in the background off of interupts.  The concept seems simple, I
>>>just don't know if it's been done or if it's even possible to catch stuff
>>>going out to the printer.  Has anyone tried this?  Thanks..
>>>Sean
>>
>>Yes, it is possible, and yes there is a program to do it.  It is called 
>>Express and is published by Seven Hills Software.  It is GS specific and 
>>runs under GS/OS, and does just what you need.  It is comparable to all 
>>the expensive print spoolers for the MAC, and it is only $29.95 from Seven 
>>Hills.  Check out a copy of Incider and look for it in the ads.
>
>If he has an IM2, there is (or was), a 32K print buffer card available.
>Wonder if they still make it?

Orange Micro (makers of the Grappler) had an ImageWriter Buffer, but they
stopped making it several years ago, claiming there wasn't any real market
for it.  The Orange Micro ImageBuffer offered more features than did the one
offered from Apple.  including being expandable to 64k and, I believe,
128k (4 256k chips).  They occasionally turn up for sale at local computer
swap shows. Also, Quality Computers sells Q-Buffer, an internal 32k Imagewriter
printer buffer (about $60).
From: wedge@valiant.ucr.edu (John J. Wegis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple IIc Disk Drive Help Needed
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:38:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucru2.6417
Organization: University of California, Riverside


I bought a used Apple IIc computer about a month ago.  Everything worked on
it fine.  I had no problems until yesterday.

I have been downloading, copying and formatting disks for a while, but just 
recently my disk drive will only let me read from a disk.  When I try to
write to the disk, it damages the disk and puts errors on it.

I checked with a disk utility, and it consistently puts errors on sector 11
of the disk.  I know the disks were not damaged, since I check the disks
before trying to format them.  I have disks that were successfully
formatted before get damaged by trying to write to them.  After attempting
to write to that disk, it will no longer boot.  

This has happened to both Dos 3.3 and ProDos disks.

I also have an external disk drive (old Apple ][ drive) that was working
before, but now it does the exact same thing as the internal drive.  It
will only read, and when it writes, it damages the disk.

I thought the was a little strange.  I was wondering if a damaged disk drive
card could cause problems like this?  It is a bit odd that two drives that
were working before, both all of a sudden will not write to disk any more.

Could you post or email any suggestions or hints?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

John Wegis (wedge@constitution)
From: nkp@ausom.oz.au (Nicholas Pyers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: SuperDrive connected to BOTH Card & SmartPort
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:38:45 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Is it possible to connect the second Apple 1.44meg SuperDrive connected to
the SuperDrive interface card to the GS Smartport Contector so I can run FTA
demos etc.

It will done on a ROM 01 GS with the SuperDrive Card in Slot 5 and the
COntrol Panel set to your card.  I would either use ProBoot or the Control
Panel to change the setting to boot from the SmartPort.

Is it also possible to make the connecting cable a Y-adapter so I can still
plug in my 5.25" disk

Please post replies or e-mail me at nkp%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au.  DO
NOT use Auto-Reply - It will never reach me.


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From: richard@serss0.fiu.edu (Albert Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: fast line-draw routines
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:22:12 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami

If anyone has some fast line-draw routines, please email or post them (email
preferably). I'll post what I receive.

Albert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: recommendations on GS word processor prog. wanted
Reply-To: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:56:54 GMT


In a previous article, pro-apa.cts.com!bkogawa (Bryan Ogawa) says:

>I believe that wordperfect will NOT work with system 6.
>However, I suspect you can still get some sort of support for the program.

Funny, I already said it works fine for me under System 6.
What part of the program does not work for you?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Volume size on GS/OS system
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:30:42 GMT

ma@unislc.uucp (Marlin Allred) writes:

>I have not seen the answer in any of the documentation that I have read
>but does anyone know if it is possible to have a volume size that is
>greater than 32 megabytes without using the HFS FST? Since GS/OS has its

Sure! With the HS.FST (CD ROM), the AppleShare FST ...

>own calls can they be used to open files on a big volume without using
>the ProDOS FST? It appears from the documentation that files on a disk
>can only be accessed through one of the FSTs installed on the system.

That's exactly the case. After all, FST stands for File System Translator,
and without an FST, GS/OS has no idea how to organize files on a disk. I
really do wish there was a built-in way to treat a disk as a single file,
sort of like the way you can treat unix devices as files. It's easy to
write a GS/OS program that does it, though (I wrote one so I could take
stuff to the SPARC at work); GS/OS is just a teeny bit too dependent on
pathnames for its own good.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: rjd@alpha.sunquest.com (Robert J. Dull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HOT System Saver
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems, Tucson AZ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Greetings: The other night I noticed a "hot" smell coming from my
machine.  When I touched they Kennsington System Saver, just
to the right of the fan, it felt very warm.  I can't remember
if this is normal, but I never noticed it before.  It's not
radiated heat from the GS, it's perfectly cool. 

bob dull rjd@alpha.sunquest.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 & Ultramacros 3.0
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:58:37 GMT

From article <1992Aug20.145946.6490@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, by gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC):

Delete both EASY ACCESS & UNIVERSAL ACCESS from your disk.. It is
too bad that these aids to the disabled cannot be used with UM
4.0, however, that is the case.

-- 


				Joe Walters att!ihlpw!bird   
				IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
From: mikem@pro-applebcs.UUCP (Michael Mulvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Network connectivity
Date: 22 Aug 92 01:07:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Proline [pro-applebcs] Boston Computer Society


 Pro-applebcs has not been able to send message to the net feed
comp.sys.apple2 . The last know address was :"info-apple@apple.com"

Is this the correct path to send to? Or has it been changed.?

Please send all reply's to :

mikem@pro-applebcs.cts.com 

Thank you.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us (Kevin Gapp)
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Bobs: Warning
Originator: kgapp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:21:17 GMT

>In article <1992Aug17.093105.5653@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
>bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
 
>>
>>Gack!  I was running the Ninja Force  "Revenge of the Bobs"
>>demo disk, and when I reset my GS, it had changed my control
>>panel settings.
>>
>>Okay, well changing control panel settings isn't a horrible crime,
>>but this program sets the text and background to black!  It also
>>sets the boot slot to 5, so I couldn't even load System 6 from
>>my hard drive (And not being able to actually "see" the control
>>panel, I couldn't reset the colors).
>
 
Steven Chiang relpies:
 
>        Yeah, I had this problem.  It depends when you reset out.  If
>you reset out   when it's loading (I believe) it sets the text color
>and BG color to black... and the startup slot to 5.
>
>        luckily, I remembered the key sequence... ctrl-OA-esc, down
>arrow, return, down arrow, return, up arrow, left arrow to reset
>standards... :)
>
>>Anyway, I managed to dig up and find an old System disk with the
>>control panel NDA on it, so I was able to fix it.  But I wonder
>>what else this demo did to my computer?!
>
>        I think I reset out once and the computer was in pal mode.
>Thus the screen was crunched and elongated.  My solution was to type
>c02b:18 in the monitor.
>
>
>        Don't worry, as far as I know it's not a virus.  It's just one
>of those things...
>
>>(__) Grover Thomas            InterNet: grover@emunix.emich.edu
>(__)
>
>
>Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY
>16/256/3200
>stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple
>IIGS.
 
Well, what about option (closed apple)-control-reset, that would bring back all
the defaults, and then you could go back in the control panel and set all the
preferences you want.
 
 
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* Kevin Gapp                                                 Apple IIgs RuleZ *
*     Ask me about BoOgiE BoaRdZ SysTemZ bbs software for the Apple II.       *
*             "Anything worth doing, is worth bitching about!"                *
* kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us                                   Lake Forest Academy *
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* Kevin Gapp						     Apple IIgs RuleZ *
*     Ask me about BoOgiE BoaRdZ SysTemZ bbs software for the Apple II.	      *
*  	   "Anything worth doing, is worth bitching about!		      *
* kgapp@gagme.chi.il.us					  Lake Forest Academy *
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From: edwin@cs.utexas.edu (Edward Geoffrey Winston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: SunDog instructions
Date: 13 Aug 1992 12:45:51 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: kalahari.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: SunDog

Hey.  I was recently going thru my old disks and found a game called
SunDog.  The basic scenario is that you are piloting a ship around
a galaxy.  There is some object to the game but I am not sure what it
is because I never had the directions.  Can somebody out there help me
with that?

Also, It seems that  on my apple //gs, the modem port does not work 
with proterm.  This is an older version but it still has the option
for using the modem port.  It was working once, but I did something     
that messed up the computer and now it does't work.  I can use the 
modem with a super serial card, so I know the modem is fine.  I have
bought a new cable for the modem and it still didn't work.  The modem
is a hayes compatible 2400 baud.  The thing that I noticed is that the
Terminal Ready light does not come on when I am using the modem port.
Any suggestions?

thanks, and please reply via e-mail if possible.

edward