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From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Subject: Re: question for Arabian Nights fans
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:55:49 GMT

Just curious; where do you all see this Burtonophilia in full
bloom?  I ask because several tales from the Arabian Nights were
on my general exam in Short Story and i read from a recent
edition of Burton edited by folklorist Jack Zipes.  I know this
was issued last year so it could not be attributed to Disney or
Dracula.  What are other signs of Burtonmania?
--Michael
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy)
Subject: Re: origination of concept of toleranceRe: Making a virtue of complacency
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:08:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.165228.29443@athena.cs.uga.edu> fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
>sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy) writes:
>
>>>>remind you that, by your own lights, you have no ground for appealing to
>>>>that whore of dead white heterosexual males [tolerance], while rejecting 
>>>>the rest of their baggage.  
>>
>>This quote filtered down through an article posted by James Fuller.
>>I have no idea in hell what provoked it. What keen interest it
>>provides devoid of context.

>    Clue:....
>P.S. or there's always the References: line....
>

Pardon me, I was very angry with you until I noticed that I forget
to edit out the alt.politics.homosexuality newsgroup. 

Mostly, I was interested in the question "Why do [people] [not]
[have] [ideas]?" as I am normally interested in the question,
"Why do people have ideas?" or perhaps phrased better, "How do
people [have not] [have] ideas?" which is more interesting.

At first I thought you were taking offence at me having a question.

My fault.
-- 
I am always wrong. Don't believe me ever.
stark raving sane  sheilah@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: dmccrea6@mach1.wlu.ca (doug mccready F)
Subject: Re: Books for Christmas
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:46:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.202440.7463@u.washington.edu> hoosiers@carson.u.washington.edu (Mary Loveless) writes:
>In article <BzF02x.Lnn@mach1.wlu.ca> dmccrea6@mach1.wlu.ca (doug mccready F) writes:
>>remember is a pseudenym - I would like to get some of her books for Xmas if
>>somebody would remind me of whom I am thinking.
>
>Sounds like Emma Lathan, whose detective, John Putnam Thatcher, is a
>
>Mary Loveless
>
Right on! Thanks. I don't know why as hard as I tried the name wouldn't come
to me.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.food.historic
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:24:08 GMT

The answer, discovered in a post to soc.women (about unintended pregnancy
and sex and other stuff not appropos for this group), by someone who I shall
not name but who has a University of Georgia email address:
	[begin excerpt]
> But if you claim to be a MAN and you insist on poking the old
>goober into other people's business you better repeat to yourself I AM
>RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OUTCOME about four thousand times.
	[end excerpt]

-- 
/\    "I'm only a human girl person.  I ain't always perfect."--Rambling Rose
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Subject: Re: Making notations in your books?
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:01:23 GMT



kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:
 
> My mother and I have been arguing over something recently,
> and I'd like to get some comments from the group on it...
 
> What are your feelings about making notes, highlighting, etc., in the
> books that you own?
 
> So who's right?  Am I just being anal-retentive, or is she destroying
> good, expensive books?
 
At the risk of offending a new (or infrequent poster):  Yes, Aaron,
you are being anal-retentive.   :-)
 
If your mother is marking up YOUR books, she is being rude.  If they are
HER books -- well, they are her books, she can do what she wants.
 
I make notes in my books, but I put them on the inside of the back cover.
 
Of course, I wouldn't do that with a Guttenberg Bible.
 
> kieran@mindvox.phantom.com
> New York by choice...New York University by mistake.
 
You should have come to the NYC r.a.b.fest at the White Horse.  Mike Godwin
showed us the R.A.B. Inner Clique Secret Handshake.
 
> Al Roker is God.
 
A number of non-New Yorkers won't get this, but I laughed.
 
Mark
 
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: M.R. James
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:08:41 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]


With all this talk of P.D. James, I am moved to ask whether anyone
out there reads M.R. James these days?

His "Ghost Stories of an Antiquary" are extraordinary exercises in
atmosphere, mood & terror. Some years ago, the BBC did a series of
made-for-tv-films based on his stories, one each Christmas. The
first, "Oh Whistle and I'll come to You", was directed by Jonathan
Miller, and starred Michael Horden. It was excellent.


--

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Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22688 rec.food.historic:897
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.food.historic
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:27:54 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

All this talk of peanuts and sex!  Mah, mah, ah feel the
vapors a' comin' on!

One of the rather interesting aspects of Spanish slang
throughout Latin America is the regional use of food terms for
sexual allusion.  I worked with a Mexican and a Puerto Rican
(who had friends in Columbia), and they used to compare
regional idioms, and words one *never* uses in polite
conversation in various contries, even if they are legitimate
food terms in others.  The one that really stuck with me is
"panocha," the term for the raw sugar cones, which in parts of
Mexico and Central America, is an allusion either to the
vagina, a piece of ass, or various secretions.  Made me scared
to try using my rudimentary Spanish!
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"The field of pseudo-science hasn't progressed much in ten
years, except to gain access to the net." --from ca.earthquakes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: dmccrea6@mach1.wlu.ca (doug mccready F)
Subject: Re: Books for Christmas
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:47:21 GMT

There is a lady who writes books about a business man who solves mysteries,
mostly in New England settings. I can't remember her name which I do
remember is a pseudenym - I would like to get some of her books for Xmas if
somebody would remind me of whom I am thinking.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Tintin
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 03:49:38 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:

> can anyone give the name of the biography of TINTINs creator...I heard
> about it a year or so ago.  Evidently Herge was a probable collaborator w
> the Nazis in Belgium during 

The one I have is Benoit Peters' 'Tintin And The World Of Herge' (1988),
which was translated into English by Michael Farr and published in the UK
by Methuen in 1989.  You can get the hardcover for $40 from Bud Plant
Comic Art at 800-242-6642; they used to stock the softcover but no longer,
it seems.  I don't know of a US pressing.

Re: Herge's "collaboration" -- according to Peeters,  the limit of Herge's
cooperation with the Nazis was his continuing to produce Tintin strips for
the newspaper 'Le Soir' during the Occupation. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22490 rec.food.historic:883
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:07:17 CST
From: Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.food.historic
Subject: Re: Goober, a Southernism??
 <BzB6LH.6HD@icon.rose.hp.com>,<1992Dec15.183538.15230@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <00965215.793C8A80@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>

In article <00965215.793C8A80@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, alisg@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
says:
>
>In article <1992Dec15.183538.15230@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu
>(JKF) writes:
>>"Goober" is also a nickname.  I've known several "Goober"s in Georgia and
>>Virginia.  No particular demeaning connotations associated as far as I
>>know... it was just what we called them.
>
>
>I agree. "Goober" may simply have been the nickname of someone who perhaps
>liked peanuts a lot.
>
My local expert in Southern slang interpreted the "Goober" as a reference
to a person, with no fondness for peanuts necessary.  "Goober" as an
appellation is comparable to, say, "Gomer".

Cole Kendall
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22332 alt.comedy.british:2751 soc.culture.british:17425 alt.fan.monty-python:10006
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.comedy.british,soc.culture.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Git (was re: Et in Arcadia ego)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:08:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu

Heather Noel Bobbie writes:


	looka dis, guys, i kept the attribution and everything!

	Lady Johanna Constantine writes:

		My fave line that makes no sense to an American has got 
		to be: "If you're cold, take a jumper from the press."

	HA HA! i've got you there!  i know exactly what that means and
	i'm a troooo 'merkun!!!  so there!  i've got you!

	(of course my Master and Love is english but that's got
	NOTHING to do with it.  i will admit the first time he
	mentioned his "jumper," being the innocent flower i am, i
	was quite perturbed.  i didn't think he was a transvestite..
	but he Enlightened me.)

Hmm. Another Heather I see. Soon be as common as kudzu. However, Noel
adds a touch of the aristo to match Our Lady of the Jumpers. Last time
I was in Chipping Camden, Gerry Noel (who is the Earl of Gainsborough?)
was driving the local popish priest to fury by insisting on attending
alternately the CofE and RC churches in the spirit of oecumenicalism.
"Just the sort of thing that gets people nervous" was how the good
Father put it. While we're about it, what is the origin of the phrase
"Up your jumper!."

							Fido
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,alt.politics.homosexuality
From: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller)
Subject: Re: origination of concept of toleranceRe: Making a virtue of complacency
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:52:28 GMT

sheilah@wam.umd.edu (Danny-Boy) writes:

>>>remind you that, by your own lights, you have no ground for appealing to
>>>that whore of dead white heterosexual males [tolerance], while rejecting 
>>>the rest of their baggage.  
>
>This quote filtered down through an article posted by James Fuller.
>I have no idea in hell what provoked it. What keen interest it
>provides devoid of context.


    Clue:

    %cd /usr/spool/news/alt/politics/homosexuality

      OR

    %cd /usr/spool/news/rec/arts/books

      AND THEN

    %grep tolerance *


                                               -- jf


P.S. or there's always the References: line....
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: All this moral and s*x stuff..
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:13:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Read THE SELFISH GENE, by Richard Dawkins(?). That should knock
all this pontificatory rambling into a proverbial "cocked" hat.
No free will here......
-- 
Ted....
From: engelson-sean@cs.yale.edu (Sean Philip Engelson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Abulafia
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:15:30 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: stove.ai.cs.yale.edu


The following is posted for a friend sans usenet access:

From: Kptfg Dibkft <CHAJEFH@YaleVM.YCC.YALE.EDU>

If you can figure out the significance of my name, you're on your
way to understanding Abulafia!

Abraham Abulafia was the founder of the ecstatic Kabbalah; his mysticism
includes " a deep interest in language as a universe in itself, to
be studied as the philosphers study nature, in order to attain higher
knowledge than natural science and speculative philosophy....Abulafia
proposed an elaborate hermeneutical system, unique in the whole
Kabbalistic literature, for both its systematic exposition and the
eccentric exegetical devices it describes....Torah was regarded by
Abulafia as the most important text, reflecting the constitution of
the intellectual world and being identifical with the Active intellect
and even to God Himself. On the other hand, Torah was interpreted in
Abulafia's Kabbalah as an allegory to the psychological processes
of the mystic, an approach different from the regular Kabbalistic
interpretation of this text as a symbolic corpus reflecting the
divine intrasefirotic life." From the jacket of "Language, Torah,
and Hermeneutics in Abraham Abulafia" which is a collection of essays
read by Eco himself, and which provided him with the information
he put to use in "Foucault's Pendulum."

-- 
Sean Philip (Shlomo) Engelson		
Yale Department of Computer Science	
Box 2158 Yale Station			
New Haven, CT 06520			
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: peterc@suite.sw.oz.au (Peter Chubb)
Subject: Quotes, quotes, quotes
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 03:02:42 GMT


I like books whose authors refer to many other works of literature.
My favourites at present are Richard Burton's `Anatomy of Melancholy'
and Dorothy Sayers's `Gaudy Night'.

Burton usually footnotes his quotes -- often they're in Latin -- so
they're obviously quotes.  Sayers doesn't.

Half the fun of reading Sayers's books is trying to work out where
she's quoting or alluding to another work. Some apparent allusions are
not in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, nor in Bartlet's Familiar
Quotations.

For example, two phrases from Gaudy Night that I'm trying to find are:

	`The duke drained a dipper of brandy and water and became
	 again the perfect English gentleman'

and

	`His Lordship has drunk his bath and returned to bed'

Does anyone know where these come from, if they are in fact allusions
to or quotations from other works?

Peter Chubb.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22551 talk.philosophy.misc:2984 comp.ai.philosophy:7107
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,talk.philosophy.misc,comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Insignificance (was re: The word "homophobic")
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:37:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec16.163759.18573
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <JMC.92Dec15151440@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> 
jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) writes:

JMC:
>I thought mentioning Dennett would make Zeleny flip.  I think its an
>intra-Cambridge tribal war.  I would like to know who all the
>combatants are.

You exaggerate the ardor of my wrath, Professor.  More to the point, you
misconstrue its causes.  When evaluated on his own modest merits, Dennett
does just fine -- for a charlatan or ignoramus; but to mention him in the
same breath as Spinoza is a crime of _l\`ese majest\'e_, tantamount to
comparing the significance of your own scholarly accomplishments with
those of Sir Isaac Newton or Alonzo Church.

>--
>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>*
>He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
>

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: jest@netcom.com (Jeff Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: The Online BookStore Announcement: The Internet Companion
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:09:16 GMT

tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:

> That still doesn't explain the part about it being a best
> seller when it just came out ;).


What about the introduction by Al Gore?  It's signed:

"Vice President Al Gore, August, 1992

Hmmm, the authors knew it would be a best seller before it hit the
stores, *and* Al Gore knew back in August that he would win the 
election......

:)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,talk.philosophy.misc
From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
Subject: The word "ballistic"
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project
	<OZ.92Dec15110751@ursa.sis.yorku.ca>
	<1992Dec15.145101.18530@husc3.harvard.edu>
	<JMC.92Dec15151440@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:55:43 GMT

John McCarthy writes:

   I thought mentioning Dennett would make Zeleny flip.

As you well know, it is commonplace on usenet to have various obnoxious
twits go ballistic at the drop of a hat. This particular side-show-grade
twit from Harvard's basement is remarkable only for the force of his wet
noodle and the volume of his "flatus vocis". 

				    ... I think its an
   intra-Cambridge tribal war. I would like to know who all the
   combatants are.

Mr Z, his wooden horse, and a handful of his favorite toy soldiers. :-)

... oz

Xref: sparky rec.arts.books:22852 news.groups:24704
From: callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,news.groups
Subject: Re: *Any* kind of r.a.b split, or at least a *serious* discussion
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:52:07 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD

I write:

>is), they insist that their intellectual babble (*not* "pseudo") ... 

That is to say, *I* would not add the prefix "pseudo."  It is indeed often
quite intellectual, but nevertheless it is babble.

--
Paul Callahan
callahan@cs.jhu.edu
From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: question for Arabian Nights fans
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:00:49 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

Alan Hunter and Deb Schwartz write about:

Edward Whittemore's series whose protagonist is based on Sir Richard Burton,
including Sinai Tapestry, Jerusalem Poker, and Nile Shadows.  I hadn't heard
of them -- thanks.

I poked the Library of Congress to see if there was anything else
(telnet dra.com, for you Internet junkies), and they showed:

#   --------Author--------  -------------------Title------------------- Date
1   Whittemore, Edward.     Jericho mosaic / Edward Whittemore.         1987
2   Whittemore, Edward.     Jerusalem poker / by Edward Whittemore.     1978
3   Whittemore, Edward.     Nile shadows / by Edward Whittemore.        1983
4   Whittemore, Edward.     Quin's Shanghai circus.                     1974
5   Whittemore, Edward.     Sinai tapestry : a novel / by Edward Whitt  1977

Looks like the first one has the same style of title... the fourth one may
be here.

Time to revisit all my local bookstores!

-- 
	Jim Gillogly
	U.S. National Debt: $4,173,518,233,301
	Your Share: $16,305
From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Another Burton [was: question for Arabian Nights fans]
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:34:26 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

Another addition to the Burtoniana collection turned up in today's mail.
Frank McLynn again: "Of No Country", ISBN 0-356-17986-9, Scribners: London,
1990.  211 pp., #14.95.  This was remaindered by Barnes & Noble at $9.95 US.

The subtitle is "An anthology of the works of Sir Richard Burton".  The
book is to some extent a literary biography/autobiography, with essays,
poems and translations by Burton interspersed with biographical glue by
McLynn.  Looks like a winner!
-- 
	Jim Gillogly
	U.S. National Debt: $4,169,883,452,625
	Your Share: $16,292
From: rhogan@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Hogan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re-evaluating my position: Was: Call for discussion...
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:37:33 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


Having forgotten about the existence of alt.book.reviews,
I was enthusiastic about rec.arts.books.reviewed.  Having
been reminded of a.b.r. by Mark's posting, the need for a
rec newsgroup along the same lines seems nonexistent.  It
would be, at best, superfluous.

I retract my support for a new group in favor of making
better use of the available resources.

Ron Hogan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: hoosiers@carson.u.washington.edu (Mary Loveless)
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas 
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.165851.19862@nas.nasa.gov> wismith@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (William R. Smith) writes:
>Mary Loveless writes:
>	
>	It sounds disgracefully self-indulgent, but other than that,
>	I have every single book I want, including almost everything
>	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	by Robertson Davies and Doris Lessing.  
>
>
>
>INCREDIBLE!!!  IN - fucking - CRIDBLE!!!    (slyly combining threads) 
>
>I don't even know the TITLES of all the books I want.  I walk thru
>a bookstore and break out in a serious case of the I-wants.
>
>Mary has truly reached a Zen state where her wants match her resources.
>I'm envious.  Sort of.
>
>William Sburgfort Smith
>Intel, SSD
____________________________________________________________________________
One reaches Enlightenment by receiving a small inheritance from someone
whose favorite line was "Mary Ellen, put down that silly book and (weed
the garden, scrub the floor, cook the dinner, wash the......)!"  Then one
*****SPENDS***** the $ucker in the best possible way.  
I mean, its IN - doublefucking- CROYABLE and more.  You may find me in my
Splendid Solitude behind a pile of books, if you wish to sit at my feet
and wait for more words of wisdom. ;)
Mary Loveless


Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: All I want for xmas
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:37:34 GMT

Mark Taranto quotes W. Sburgfort S.'s fridge list:
>> Halo                            Tom Maddox              sf

and then says:
>I hope Sburgfort was smiling when he wrote that.

Now, wait a minute.  I thought I heard Maddox say that people
better be smiling if they call his book "sci-fi," not if they
call it "sf."  I've had this distinction between "sci-fi" and
"sf" drummed into me until I'm blue in the face, so I'd like
to know if I've *still* got it wrong

					--clueless, no doubt,

							Fiona
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: It fills us. We arrange it. It decays.
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.184152.28889@ncar.ucar.edu>, chucks@uars2.acd.ucar.edu (Chuck Smythe) writes:
|> In article <=8j288a@rpi.edu> I wrote:
|>   
|> [my codswallop deleted]
|>  
|> Er - "codswallop" is the style of the moment?  
|> 
|> I presume that Fiona's point is just this; the emotional consequences of
|> the memory are the same whether it refers to a real, physical event or not.
 
 Um, yeah. I missed Fiona's point by about a mile. She was nice enough to
point this out to me in private e-mail in a non-flamish manner. I hope 
this will forestall any more public chastisements, but if not, I guess 
I've earned them.
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