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From: os902821@ash.canberra.edu.au (Scott David McLauchlan)
Subject: Re: Question about Crusher's Uniform...
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:36:21 GMT

In <92286.123350ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:

>...'cause [Wesley's] a pencil-necked geek.

Oh, come on guys. Wesley *has* improved. Haven't you seen "The Game"?
He may not be the greatest character in ST-TNG, but he isn't *that* bad.

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From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Why they killed off Tasha Yar
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:29:42 EST

In article <1992Oct9.151243.4643@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
cvantwrp@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyndi Van Antwerp) writes:
 
>I read (don't remember where) that Denise Crosby was disappointed on the
>lack of popularity of the show and wanted out of her contract to
>pursue furthering her career elsewhere--so they
>killed her off.  Shortly thereafter, the show really hit high on the
>ratings, and judging by her visits back to the show, I think she may
>regret her hasty decision.
 
 
That wasn't the National Enquirer by chance, was it? :)
 
ST:TNG has been one of the hottest, non-game, syndicated
shows since its release.  It regularly outperforms the standard
network fare its matched up against and many of the larger
markets have network affiliates overlooking the network
feed for ST:TNG, much to the consternation of the networks.
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From: janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian)
Subject: Re: OLd YElLow EyeS is BacK...and he's bad
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:23:59 GMT

In article <9228710.16334@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> grebo@ecr.mu.oz.au (Cruella_The_HellFire_Bondage_Babe) writes:
>
>
>I heard a while back that Brent Spiner (aka Data) recorded covers
>of Frank Sinatra and stuff with Michael Dorn (Worf) as back up...
>
>What label is it released on and can someone who's heard it post a
>REVIEW!!!!
>

 Well, I have it at home, so I can't tell you the label right now. However,
I really like the CD. Brent is a good singer. One song, "Toot Toot Tootsie"
sounds like Data, not Brent. When I hear that song I picture Data on the
stage doing his "comedian" arm movements  - from that episode with Joe
Piscopo (?). Anyway, the songs are well done. Brent does have a lot of
vibratto in his voice, so you have to like that kind of singing. The song
with the SunSpots (Burton, Dorn, Stewart, and Riker (sorry, I'm "blank"
on his name)) singing backup for Brent is great.

Janet
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From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:40:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.180059.17552@sura.net> nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
>In article <1992Oct16.140955.15823@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct14.191208.29970@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>
>>[45 lines of Atsushi-bashing deleted...]
>>
>>>Opinion wholeheartedly seconded!!
>>>Anyonce care to third it
>>
>>[opinion regarding quoting entire long article to second opinion deleted]
>>
>>Anyone care to second this opinion? ;-) 
>
>Absolutely!  Did I trim this enough? :)
>

Now this is more of a waste of bandwidth than the original waste.
Anyone care to second this opinion?   :-}

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From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE F
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

TO:smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil

SMD>Good for you.  Actually, there should be no reason for discussion on the
SMD>issue.  Waaaaaay back in the SECOND season, in the episode where that
SMD>alien was 'experimenting' with the Enterprise and created a duplicate of
SMD>another Galaxy-class vessel...Riker said something along the lines
SMD>of 'Lieutenant, energize'... Case Closed.

Case closed?  This was only O'Brien's second appearance on the show.  It's
one isolated reference, out of a three-year history of purposefully NOT
referring to him as "lieutenant".  I'm not coming down on either side,
really, just pointing out that this is hardly definitive evidence.  It
was contradicted later, and it's simply a matter of deciding which
example to believe.

SMD>As far as Worf's father calling O'Brien an enlisted man (with the look
SMD>of disgust on O'Brien's face <g>)...

Er - kind of an exaggeration, isn't it?  I just watched it; there was
nothing like disgust on O'Brien's face.  A half-second of blankness, then
a smile.  No disgust.

Scott

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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: Dread of Scotty Episode
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 17:18:23 EDT

There is a possibility that occurred to me. Doohan commented just before STVI   was released that he would like to do more ST movies, but Paramount spokesfolks
said Shatner and Nimoy had their fill. Whatever really happens with the future  of the Trek film. this plot device does give Scotty the chance to get dragged 
into any ST:TNG movies Paramount decides to make (he won't be dead or ancient
like Bones or Nimoy or the rest). Doohan gets to stay in the movies, he's still
young to figure out how the Enterprise works, etc.

Just a thought. After all, after watching ST:V, I fugured anything could happen.

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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: ST Actors on SNL? (was Brent Spiner on Saturday Night Live)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:59:07 GMT


In article <1992Oct10.164018.19093@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood) writes:
>I would love to see Brent on Saturday NIght Live. He is such a versatile actor 
>and has a great sense of comedy. Does anyone know Lorne Michaels address so we 
>can request him as guesthost?

I would frankly like to see *any* ST actor on Saturday Night Live.  I
have heard Spiner is a good con guest, so I imagine he would be a good
host.  Has *any* ST actor (regular or semi-regular) hosted SNL besides
William Shatner?  I imagine the only other ones who might have had a
chance would be Leonard Nimoy or Whoopi Goldberg.


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From: T9214504@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Pickard and Guinan TAI/TAII
Date: 8 Oct 1992 20:22:55 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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X-Unparseable-Date: 09 Oct 1992 11:12 -0500 (EST)



  Even though I have not seen TAII, but I have seen TAI on tape(*^*),
  and I have gatheed enough info on what happens, (spoilers don't worry me),
  why could Picard not have given Guinan some helpful info about The Borg,
  as they/it still hadn't destroyed her people. 
    She refered to Data in TAI, about her father 'sending Data' (thus I 
  assume from her home world), and the time frame when Q introduces the 
  Borg to Picard etc, (Was that episode called 'Q Who'???? - can't remember)
  Guinan states that The Borg destroyed her people, and scatted them all over th  the universe..........just a thought......

  *^* - Here in Australia we are about 3 seasons behind!!! I suppose until
        the tapes sink 'Downunder', then we only get to see them.
        Luckily I have a friend who buys them and sends them in from the 
        United Kingdom - England, and various other places.

   Konrads Samulis. t9214504@pitvax.edu.au

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From: stanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Stan Bischof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: *Spoiler* Comments on "Relics"
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:28:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA

In rec.arts.startrek.current, wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:



>- There were several lines that I'm sure will become classics.  Some of
>my favorites:

>Data:  It is... *sniff*...It is....It is *green*.

Already a classic- This was Scotty's line from TOS. I thought is was great
irony for Data to use it on Scotty!

I agree- best episode by far this season.

What I really liked was:

 (1) The 'alien' technology found (Dyson sphere is this case) DIDN'T
     self-destruct at the end. I groaned when they announced the 'unstable'
     star. They even sent science vessels to study it! 

 (2) Scotty DIDN'T die/get written out/be explained as a dream/etc.
     at the end. Hopefully he'll be back.

Stan Bischof
Santa Rosa                          
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: lynch's spoiler revie
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:52:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.3208.12158@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:

>
>You did?  I felt it was completely TERRIBLE how Worf just stood there
>and WATCHED Alkar die!  Unbelievably cruel.  He could have at least had
>him transported directly to sick bay where they might be able to revive
>him.

Alcar was a repeat murderer.  He got exactly what he deserved.
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:56:34 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <rawdon.719008680@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>[Warning: I'm deliberately overreacting here, since I'm not in much of a
>mood to suffer fools, gladly or otherwise, today.]
>
>In <1992Oct13.171059.20332@athena.mit.edu> johnnyp@athena.mit.edu (John Piscitello) produces the inevitable reply:
>>>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>>:)Because of the low quality of the recent episodes and the even lower
>>>:)quality of the *promisings* of upcoming episodes, I am dropping
>>>:)ST:TNG from my viewing schedule effective immediately. I will not be 
>>>:)reviewing (or watching) "Relics", nor will there be any further episode 
>>>:)reviews from this site.
>

Fine.  Good riddens to you.  
And to Michael Rawdon, neither am I in such a mood.

Steve/Iain
From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Keywords: How
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:12:03 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1992Oct7.205149.8722@msdhsv.ingr.com> bob@medrcw.b17b.ingr.com writes:
>In article <1av4ntINN5n8@venture.ksu.ksu.edu>, tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning) writes:
>|> 
>|> I just saw a re-run of "Elementary, Dear Data" last night and I have a stupid
>|> question.  Isn't there some way they could use a plot complication like
>|> downloading Proffessor Morriarity's holodeck program into a android body
>|> built to his own likeness?  Data could build the body and then just download
>|> Morriarity into his new form.  Anyone have a justifiable answer why it can't
>|> be done?
>
>Yes.  The Burroughs (as in Edgar Rice) estate will not permit it.

Well, barring that, would the Arthur Conan Doyle estate permit them  
to do TARZAN? :P

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From: coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Kevin Coleman)
Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - #233: Rascals
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:12:37 GMT


kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

>In article <rccarm00.719076618@mik.uky.edu> rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:
>>In <4264@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>>
>>
>>>Episode #233			uplink dates: 10/31/92, 11/01/92
>>
>>>	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: A bizarre transporter mishap transform
>>>	Picard and three other staff members into children just as Ferengis
>>>	invade and disable the ship.
>>
>>   Does this scare anyone else as much as it does me?
>>What happened to the writers who came up with 'The Inner Light',
>>'I, Borg', and 'Darmok'??  Have they been taking lessons
>>from the writers of 'Cost of Living'?

>As a matter of fact, yes. Check out _Cinefantastique_. "Cost of Living"
>was cited by one staffer as "just the sort of weird shit this show needs
>more of." I might also point out that Peter Allan Fields (the writer of
>"Cost" and "Half a Life") was highly praised in the same issue.

>Is it any wonder I'm leaving? Sure, you have to go through a lot of chaff
>to find the wheat -- but when the makers openly state a preference
>for the chaff, and promise us more of it in the future (as in "Rascals"
>and "A Fistful"), that's my tolerance limit.



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>Kanamori's Episode Ratings: (last episode rated: "Man of the People") 
>  Legend: 5-1 dots = A-F       "-.-" = "Cost of Living" 
>          "?" = "don't know"   "W" = "walked out" 
Uh, excuse me, but wouldn't it make alot more sense to actually SEE the episode before deciding that you hate it? It's no wonder you people seem to NEVER like  an episode--you've already decided you hate it before it even airs.

Kevin
coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu

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From: johnnyp@athena.mit.edu (John Piscitello)
Subject: Re: Sixth Season
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:41:00 GMT

In article <tomcat.718653988@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>	I agree with this person...the show is doing very well.  I don't
>see what is wrong with the show's so far this season.  The two episodes
>I have seen so far are pretty good...and I've heard some bad thoughts from
>the next episode "Man of the People".  Before I saw the episode "Realm of
>Fear" there was some talk of the show being too technical...I followed it
>very well.  I know people have their own opinion, and I respect that.
>All I am doing now is skipping over the ones marked *spoilers* and go on
>to the ones about books, old shows, etc.  Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

	I think that those would-be "hard-core" fans who consistently
bash TNG are a vocal and radical fringe on this newsgroup - like the
GOP's far right. "Man of the People" was by no means the best TNG show
ever. But it was in the pure spirit of Trek - a classic Trek plot, much
like many plots from TOS. It was psychological, intense, and dark.
And yes, it was campy, unintentionally so. Troi's scream and her "granny"
voice, her struggle with Picard with the knife on the transport platform...
I mean, that was goofy.

	But at least the show is trying cool things and failing. And
there were many *excellent* scenes in there too...the dramatic tension at
the end was well-paced and taut...Picard's confrontation with the bad guy
was a classic moral-dilemma argument that we all watch Stewart for...
and the spirituality of the martial-arts class, with Worf leading the class...
a small scene loaded with grace and attention to detail.

	I'd rather see the show try and alternately miss and fail than
see the formulaic, uninspired plots we saw in season 5 - personally,
I thought The Masterpiece Society sucked....

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From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Subject: Re: nudity on trek
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 14:27:10 EDT

In article <Bvrnu7.6yq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
bdienes@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Bruce Dienes) writes:
 
>chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes:
>
>>It's already been done, I think. In the episode <spit> "Cost of Living":
>>the dancing woman by the mud bath.
 
There is some more nudity in CoL.  At a recent con here in Albany, Majel
Barrett said that while filming the mud-bath scene at the end, she was the
last one filmed and the level of mud had dropped so that her bathing suit
kept showing.  Finally, cold and tired, she just pulled down her top and
told them to shoot.  She said that there is probably some film making the
rounds at Paramount which were not included in the final cut which show
a bit more of her than she would have liked!
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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: PAD's nudity predictions come true
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:42:09 GMT

tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson) writes:
>Didn't PAD say something to the effect of:
>
>"...I find it unlikely that the writers will see dropping ratings
>and say, 'OK, off with Troi's clothes'..."
>
>Well, it seems you were wrong, after seeing "Man Of The People"...

She wasn't nude, but I get your point. So did that crewman
in the turbolift. :)

Perhaps this theory can be summed up:

"Dropping ratings lead to dropping clothing..."; does this
mean that ratings and clothing are directly proportional?

bote, the rec.nude guy :)

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From: davidm@consilium.com (David S. Masterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:52:23 GMT
	<DAVIDM.92Oct8105519@consilium.com>
	<1992Oct9.065312.8896@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Consilium Inc., Mountain View, California
In-reply-to: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 9 Oct 92 06:53:12 GMT
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>>>>> On 9 Oct 92 06:53:12 GMT, dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) said:

> >> >6. Distinguishing non-coms from officers or non-com ranks.
> >> From what we have seen on the show, enlisted people wear NO pips.  
> >>That makes telling them from officers pretty easy.

> >But how do you tell them apart?  
> Easy.  Officers wear pips, enlisteds DON'T.

I meant how do you tell the enlisted ranks apart. :->

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: un: s.o.s.: man of the pe
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:19:21 EST

 -=> On 10-13-92  14:16, Jason John Seaver babbled to All saying: <=-

 JJS> A: 93-100
 JJS> B: 85-92
 JJS> C: 78-85
 JJS> D: 70-78
 JJS> F: 0-69

Anything below a 69 is an *F*?!?!  Man, that's TERRIBLE!  :-)

You have my sympathy.  :-)

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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Subject: Re: What does it mean when...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:26:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.224151.22421@news.yale.edu> (Jose M. Molina) writes:
>Sorry to correct you Phil, but Geordi would NOT be the first to notice
>Barclay's paling.  If you've noticed, every time the camera shoots from
>Geordi's point of view, the image is severely distorted.  He also begs
>Tasha (in "The Naked Now") to help him see in the normal human -- as he
>calls it -- "shallow" fashion (i.e., the type that would enable him to see
>skin tone).
>
>Besides, Barclay didn't look any paler than usual!

Well, someone mentioned before that Geordie can see in the entire range
of the wavelength spectrum. But that would mean that he can see
in the visible spectrum--and that would be normal human vision wouldn't
it?