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From: John.E.Jordan@bioch.utas.edu.au (John Eric Jordan)
Subject: Re: Where to find CYBERSPACE VANGUARD
Organization: Biochemistry Dept. University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:16:45 GMT

In article <1iqs16INNkuh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cn577@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine) writes:
>From: cn577@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine)
>Subject: Where to find CYBERSPACE VANGUARD
>Date: 11 Jan 1993 04:11:18 GMT
>
>
>
>Just to let you know, the first issue of Cyberspace Vanguard:
>News and Views of the Science Fiction Universe has been posted
>in the following groups:
>
>alt.zines
>rec.mag
>rec.misc
>alt.fandom.misc
>
>(There are other copies in other places, but this is the "no-typos"
>version.)
>
>This issue carries interviews from Space Rangers, Time Trax, Babylon 5,
>Batman: The Animated Series, and "more news than hours of net surfing."
>
>If your site doesn't carry these groups and you would like a copy,
>or if you want to be an e-subscriber, let us know.
>
>-- 
>                     CYBERSPACE VANGUARD MAGAZINE
>           News and Views from the Science Fiction Universe
>TJ Goldstein, Editor      |   Send submissions, questions, comments to
>  tlg4@po.cwru.edu        |         cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu
Xref: sparky alt.tv.red-dwarf:2043 news.answers:4910
From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: REQ: Red Dwarf Theme Transcription.
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:52:07 GMT

In article 1in2iuINNa8s@shelley.u.washington.edu, valmont@hardy.u.washington.edu 
>	Sometimes ....  Just sometimes, mind you .... I wonder
>	if it's all really worth it.  :)
>
>	You need a copy of the Frequently Asked Questions List.
>	It's available on anonymous FTP at toaster.ee.ubc.ca:
>	it's /pub/red-dwarf/FAQ.

Kindly give me a break, sir.

I'm new to this network.  Four months ago I was introduced to UNIX for the
first time, connecting from a PC in VT52 mode.  One month ago I got a SPARC
station and OpenWindows.  Two weeks ago someone said. "By the way, here's
a news reader, have fun".  Up till then I had never seen the acronym FAQ.
I didn't find out what it stood for until I saw your posting!  I still
haven't found out whether I can FTP to the outside world from here.

My point: some of us are just getting into this and don't know all the
ropes (or any of them, initially!).  I didn't post a message asking what
FAQ stood for, because I knew that while I would get some replys that
politely answered my question, I'd also get some of the"how-can-you-have-
lived-so-long-and-not-know-what-a-FAQ-is-you-stupid-little-git" type.  I've
been burned like this on other networks, so when I see something I don't
understand I tned to keep quiet and watch the messages and eventually
I see the answer somewhere.

It is really worth it, although sometimes it may not seem that way.
		Kurt
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: FAQ?
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:55:19 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1993Jan3.191451.14836@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
>How many episodes of this show are actually out there?  A friend of mine says
>this show has been running in England for six years!?  Is this true?  The local
>PBS station has only run a dozen or two episodes......am I getting gypped?

If they've shown two dozen, then no, you're not, really.  Last year's
series (the fifth) is only now beginning to be aired in the U.S. (or at
least can be -- rights for air beginning on January 1st were sold in
the fall).  This year's series will be aired on BBC2 probably beginning
in February, and will be seen on American screens in 1994.

So, the answer to "How many episodes are there?" is, if you include the
soon-to-be-aired (in the UK) sixth series, "Thirty-six."

"Second Technician Arnold Rimmer.  I.Q.: unknown."

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Subject: Re: Smeg again.
From: scimitar@suction.acme.gen.nz (Robert Singers)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 13:10:00 +1300
Organization: Barbed Wire Cat Productions

lester@elec.uq.oz.au (Sean) writes:

> I was reading through "Bachelor Boys - The Youngs One Book" recently,
> and in the section where Rick describes how to swear "properly", smeg
> was used.  "Smeg-face" was the term used to be precise.  This book 
> first appeared circa 1984.  Thought some people might be interested.

Now the really interesting thing is the range of Italian or maybe just 
Italian designed applicances that are available here in New Zealand 
called of course _SMEG_.  Laughed until we stopped.

Robert Singers               | Nothing I say or do should be taken as
scimitar@suction.acme.gen.nz | a reflection of any form of reality or
                             | consensual hallucination.
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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 14:04:47 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim) writes:

> In article 4m02wB1w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US, pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) wr
> >I'm not suggesting that Rimmer isn't capable of walking through solid
> >objects -- of course he is.  But he simply doesn't do it.  Describing
> >him as "a man who walks through walls," as the original poster did, is
> >inaccurate.
> 
> I accept that a hologram could pass through the wall but how does the
> light-bee projector, which is solid, pass throught walls, tables or
> whatever, hmmm?

Good point.  Some posters have speculated that there was a change in
hologram technology at some point in the series.  Originally, Rimmer's
presence had to be maintained constantly by Holly, meaning that he could
only exist inside Red Dwarf, one of the landing craft that preceded
Starbug, or a hologram cage like the one we saw in "Thanks for the
Memory".

Later, Holly developed the light bee, which gave Rimmer the ability to
go anywhere.  However, it also gave him the "small physical presence"
referred to in "Meltdown", and presumably ended his ability to walk
through walls.

This all conjecture, of course, and only of interest to those who care
about the numerous inconsistencies in the show.  Personally, I tend to
agree with those who say, "So what if it's not totally consistent?  It's
a smegging comedy, so stop taking it so seriously!"  It's fun to try to
rationalize these things, but with Red Dwarf we always have the option
of just saying, "Oh, what the hell -- it's still funny, even if it
doesn't always make sense."

In fact, you can even argue that this is part of Red Dwarf's charm.  It
also tends to drive out the deadly serious get-a-lifers who insist on
treating all science fiction as if it were fact -- the sort of people
who write sober analyses of the political structure of the United
Federation of Planets, as I was recently spotted doing in one of the
Star Trek newsgroups.  All I can say is, I didn't inhale.  :-)

-- 
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From: etlsngs@etlxd30.ericsson.se (steve griffiths xd/gkh)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: FAQ? + other stuff
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:16:43 GMT
Reply-To: etlsngs@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB


 Yep, RD has been running for quite a while here in the UK and the sixth series 	should be out here soon, probably next month. One series a year is produced but only	consists of six episodes which is the average length for a UK series unlike the	US where it is 26 (correct me if I'm wrong) as per Star Trek:TNG.
 Anyway Dennis it seems that you are in for a treat if you have only seen a dozen episodes and I envy you seeing them for the first time.
 Note - the first two series had a different tone and style which may be a surprise	if you have seen the later series first. Things changed when they suddenly had a much	larger budget due to the success of the first two series. However although the sets were fewer and cheaper and special effects more limited the writing more than makes
up for it. No Kryten but a lot more Hilly, or more correctly Holly as she/he was
before her sex-change. In fact the earlier series are my favorites as they had tighter 
scripts. My vote for best series would go to the second series - any other views out
there???
From: campbell@iastate.edu (Dandon P Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Station Q
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:04:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Hi, never posted here before - got a question.  Watched this
in St.Louis this summer, loved it!  Now I'm in Birmingham, AL and
wonder where it's at...  Is there a fan in the area who could tell me
what channel and when its on?  Big thanks in advance...
dan
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: FAQ?
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:14:51 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

How many episodes of this show are actually out there?  A friend of mine says
this show has been running in England for six years!?  Is this true?  The local
PBS station has only run a dozen or two episodes......am I getting gypped?

Smegfully,
--Dennis
From: nightsng@anarky.tch.org (Nightsong)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Gordon Bennett??
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 00:20:55 PST
Organization: The Canned Ham, San Jose, CA.

I have been told by certain people that Gordon Bennett

(as in -- Holly: `Gordon Bennett yes Chen..EVERYBODY'S DEAD DAVE!')

is rhyming-slang for something.  Could somebody  please tell me what

that mysterious something is?

-Nightsong
From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: FAQ?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:38:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempus.corp.sun.com

Would someone e-mail me or post the ftp site information for the
FAQ?

Thanks,

Lem

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From: msubu@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr E D G Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:28:03 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
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In article <2247.1103.uupcb@satalink.com>, joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler) writes:
|> 
|> AM| SML> And if Hattie Haybridge (SIC) isn't going to be in RD VI, Who *IS* ?
|> 
|> AM|Hopefully the original and best... though I forget his name for the
|>   |moment!!! I never liked Hilly... just didnt seem the same as Hol.
|> 
|> The word I get is that there will be *NO HOLLY* at all in Season 6.   
|> Although I don't like that personally, I can see why they're doing it.
|> Holly is superflous now that they've got Kryten in there.  :(
|> 
Well, for personal preference, we could bring Kryten more back towards his
original self, as seen in the episode 'Kryten'...

Regards,
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From: markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Smeg again.
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:29:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Newspaper Services, Howden, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cassia.compnews.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

While applying to enter Sheffield City Polytechnic, I picked up one of their newsletters, and discovered that one of their executive groups was changing its name. Nothing odd about that, admittedly, but the original name's acronym was SMEG...

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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:50:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper) says:

>I've just got issue 11 of the Red Dwarf Smegazine, and I've found out the following thingz...
>
>1) Plans are afoot for the Americans to make a movie of the series. Whether they will muck it up like they did the TV show is a matter of speculation.

Sounds like the mysterious phantom "Doctor Who" Movie rumor. I'll 
believe it when I see it.

>2) Hattie Hayridge (Holly) may not be appearing in series VI. News at 11...

This one could very well be true as Craig Charles & Robert Llewelyn
said virtually the same thing at Visions '92 in November.

>3) The BBC have asked Grant Naylor to create a programme explaining the series. Apparently they're concerned that people turning on to see a man pretending to be a cat, and another able to walk through walls, will confuse people...
>

If people dont get it now, I doubt that any program explaining the 
series will help. Such people are obviously "brain dead". Maybe the
people at the BBC want the program made because they dont understand
Red Dwarf.


--"There's a saying amongst the officers. If a jobs worth doing, it's
   worth doing well; if it's not worth doing, give it to Rimmer!
                     --Holly quoting from Capt. Hollisters log,
                       Waiting For God
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From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: RD in New Jersey???
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:48:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

Try WLIW (Channel 21) on Sunday Evenings at Midnight.

They just aired Qeeg last week.

Steve
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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:39:39 GMT

In article <1ihn00INNqcn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:


>In a previous article, markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper) says:

>>I've just got issue 11 of the Red Dwarf Smegazine, and I've found out the following thingz...
>>
>>1) Plans are afoot for the Americans to make a movie of the series. Whether they will muck it up like they did the TV show is a matter of speculation.

>Sounds like the mysterious phantom "Doctor Who" Movie rumor. I'll 
>believe it when I see it.

Sorry, but there were two Doctor Who movies produced, both starring Peter 
Cushing as the Doctor. Where were you?


Jeff Jonsson
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From: lester@elec.uq.oz.au (Sean)
Subject: Smeg again.
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:36:21 GMT


From the FAQ Prepared by:  Michael J Montoure and Renee Byrd:

>WHAT DOES "SMEG" MEAN?
>
>	The characters in the show use it as an all-purpose profanity.
>	Apparently derived from "smegma," the term for a particularly 
>	unpleasant bodily secretion, the slang term "smeg" was reportedly
>	in use in England before the show premiered, although not commonly.
>	Grant and Naylor presumably adopted this little-known bit of Scouse
>	profanity as a blanket replacement for all other swearing, to keep
>	them out of trouble with the BBC and to poke fun at the long-standing
>	convention in science-fiction of inventing "futuristic" slang. 


I was reading through "Bachelor Boys - The Youngs One Book" recently,
and in the section where Rick describes how to swear "properly", smeg
was used.  "Smeg-face" was the term used to be precise.  This book 
first appeared circa 1984.  Thought some people might be interested.

Sean.
lester@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
From: Andrew_Miller@camelot.apana.org.au (Andrew Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:15:25 EST
Organization: The TOWER BBS

 SML> And if Hattie Haybridge (SIC) isn't going to be in RD VI, Who *IS* ?

Hopefully the original and best... though I forget his name for the
moment!!! I never liked Hilly... just didnt seem the same as Hol.

     Later....


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From: nightsng@anarky.tch.org (Nightsong)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: KRMA
Keywords: Not for a while!
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 00:14:52 PST
Organization: The Canned Ham, San Jose, CA.

> These people are definitely the typical stuffy PBS types, so if you talke
> to them, don't call them smegheads or anything, they won't get it at all!

I remember a different PBS station (KTEH I believe) which stated 
emphatically that they were *NOT* stuffy..it was kind of funny actually.. 
each volunteer had an H on his\her forehead :)

-Nightson
         g
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From: jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au (Jim Garner)
Subject: Re: Gordon Bennett??
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:44:12 GMT

nightsng@anarky.tch.org (Nightsong) writes:
|I have been told by certain people that Gordon Bennett
|(as in -- Holly: `Gordon Bennett yes Chen..EVERYBODY'S DEAD DAVE!')
|is rhyming-slang for something.  Could somebody  please tell me what
|that mysterious something is?

Gordon Bennett is not rhyming slang. He was originally an Australian
general but I think he commanded British troops. Anyway he was so
unpopular that the troops started using his name as a swear-word, and
when they went back to civilian life the expression continued to
spread in Cockney circles.

-- 
Jim Garner B.Math (Newcastle NSW Australia) - jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Movie, etc.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 14:00:55 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio) writes:

> "Rude alert! Rude alert! An electrical fire has knocked out my
>  voice-recognition unicycle! Many Wurlitzers are missing from my
>  database! Abandon shop! This is not a daffodil!"  --Holly

What episode is *that* line from?  I haven't heard it before, but I
haven't seen Series 5 yet.

-- 
Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   |  "At least that's what *I* thought.
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  But I have a history of missing the
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Subject: Re: What's a wormdo ?
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:18:38 -0500
Distribution: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <C0FosC.IFz@brunel.ac.uk>, Steve.Lake@brunel.ac.uk (Steve M Lake) writes:
> What's a WormDo ??
> 
> It wiggles along the floor like this
> 
>  \/\/\/\/8   
> 
> 
> 
>   -Steve


Oh smeg off you smarty-pants.

--Dennis
From: dwestlan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (David Westland)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Smeg again.
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:11:25 GMT
Reply-To: dwestlan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs


	I seem to remember, some time in my dim and distant past, 
discussing this with another RD fan.  He told me that the original 
thinking behind the use of "smeg" during the series was to make a
nonsense of the fact that you can't use certain traditional swear 
words on TV.

	The words "fuck" and "shit" etc are obviously not permitted,
however the writers of RD were allowed to use the word "smega" (which
apparently is the dried up semen (etc) found under the foreskin of an
unwashed penis).  The irony being that, if you take the actual meanings
of the words "fuck", "shit", "smegma", etc, then we'd all probably agree
that "smegma" is a lot more offensive than some of the more traditional 
swear words.  It use was allowed by the TV bosses probably because they
didn't know what it meant.

	This is of course a second hand rumour!





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From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: FAQ?
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:25:37 GMT

>The vagaries of the American TV broadcasting system are a mystery to me. . .

They're just as mysterious to us!  My local PBS station has show the first
and third seasons and is currently showing the fourth, but has never boradcast
the second season!  My wife has a theory that there never was a Red Dwarf II,
and that they skipped from I to III just to confuse us.  She will be very
frustrated to find that our station has been holding out on us.

		Kurt