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From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: The "New York Thing"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:06:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.212242.19762@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> cryan@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (scott cryan 283-4109) writes:
>In article <BxvIGL.7G4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, CROSSD@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (David Cross) writes:
>|> 
>|> "It's a New York thing".  How does being from New York state differ from 
>|> being from anywhere else? :) :)                        ^^^^^
>|> 
>|> David Cross
>
>David,
>
>Please don't group all New Yorkers as being from NYC. I think you meant to say
>New York City.
>
Probably he did, or perhaps he doesn't know.  This is the point of the "It's
a New York Thing" collective;  if Seinfeld has said "New York State", would
this person have known what Seinfeld meant?  I say not!!! although it may
not make any difference to the enjoyment of the show, it is different if
you know the setting of the show.

Jeremy
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Where does Jerry live? (was Re: So who won the bet?)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:17:44 GMT

rmc@davidge.com (Robert Cianchette) writes:

>>This may be a stretch, but in "Mad About You" last week, we found out that Paul
>>actually held the lease to Kramer's apartment, since he lived there while he was
>>in school. If I remember right, Paul went to NYU. If I went to NYU and lived
>>uptown, odds are it would be because:
>>
>>a) I couldn't afford a place on the East side
>>b) It would be an easier subway commute (I think - #1 line??) down to NYU

Not unless you went to the Law School.   The best place to get off is the
N/R station at 8th & Broadway.  (This is the same station that Paul and
What's-her-name took over in "Mad About You" recently, despite the fact that
they got the station signs wrong, in typical LA fashion.)

>I seem to recall that at some point during this series they have positively
>identified Jerry's neighborhood as the Upper West Side.  Can anyone confirm
>this?

Yes.

--
Aaron Dickey
New York University
Temporary address: kieran@world.std.com

Al Roker is God.
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From: chiu@gpb-mac. (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: 11/18/92 episode...One of the funniest 30 min of TV ever...
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:24:52 GMT

dwalker@bnr.ca (David Walker) writes:
: 
: Ok, enough already...  I wonder if I saw the same show as everyone else.
: I thought that there were some good moments in this week's show but most
: of the time the show seemed to be centered around some sort of inside joke
: that they never came right out and explained.
: 
: Was this another episode about some sort of NYC thing?

You mean you didn't get that m--- word?? ;-)

If you knew what they were talking about at the begining (in the restaurant)
you would be laughing and rolling on the floor the entire show.

I did.  :-)

email me if you don't what I am talking about.
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From: mhw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Murphy)
Subject: Re: 11/18/92 episode...One of the funniest 30 min of TV ever...
Keywords: Huh?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:31:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.154201.25021@bmerh85.bnr.ca> dwalker@bnr.ca (David Walker) writes:
>
>Ok, enough already...  I wonder if I saw the same show as everyone else.
>I thought that there were some good moments in this week's show but most
>of the time the show seemed to be centered around some sort of inside joke
>that they never came right out and explained.
>
>Was this another episode about some sort of NYC thing?

What, masturbation?  The word was never mentioned, but that's what the show
centered around.  And no, I DON'T think it's endemic to NYC. :)

What I really appreciated about this show was how Elaine got in on it.  The
show very easily could have just been about Jerry, George and Kramer having a
"How Long Can You Hold Out?" contest, and Elaine on the sidelines cracking
hand-jokes.  But by making her a participant, it really destroyed a myth that
no woman has ever masturbated.  Especially since she lost. :)  And the various
reactions to the whole idea were very entertaining, from George's mother
telling him to go see a psychiatrist to Marla's disgust, "You're all
PERVERTED!!"

And again, Kramer ended up ahead of everyone.  Not only did he save himself
several nights of agony and frustration by being the first to cave in, he
wound up with the naked lady.  While George was stuck curled up with his
pillow.

I can't pick a favorite part.  But I remember laughing hysterically when Jerry
was watching cartoons and singing, "The wheels on the bus go round and
round..." while Kramer started singing, "The girl across the street has
nothing on..." (or something like that--forgive me if I got the words messed
up).

Michelle
From: tmm@sdd.hp.com (Tim McDonough)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: NY inside humour
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:35:37 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
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In article <BxpwE5.Gzr@acsu.buffalo.edu> v133kdq8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DR. JAZZ) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.124347.8786@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com>, barnett@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Mark Barnett) writes...
>>Anyone notice what I thought was way way inside
>>New York humor on the 11/11 show?
>> 
>>I wonder how many people caught what was going
>>on there?
>
>Yep, caught it.  Quite funny.  Reminds me of going to visit my aunt in NYC.  I
>hate those damn buzzers.

I caught what was going on, but hardly thought it was a NYC thing.  I remember
the same sorts of buzzers when going to see my brother or sister in the Twin
Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul).  I think it is a common type of security in
big city apartment complexes!

                                    -Tim
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From: CROSSD@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (David Cross)
Subject: The "New York Thing"
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Organization: University of Illinois Cooperative Extension
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:38:43 GMT


It seems to me that some people (myself included) feel as though they 
are being condescended to.  I suppose that this would be OK if I really
wasn't following along with the show, but that simply isn't the case.
Do you really think that NYC is the only place they have apartment 
security systems?  They had those annoying buzzers and door locks in 
the small town (~4500 people) where I grew up 15 years ago!  Maybe 
those of us from Central Illinois should be explaining the show to
New Yorkers.

Do you really believe a show could stay on the air if it only appealed
to people from New York?  Sure, it's a large city, but I doubt that NBC
would carry a show "about nothing" just for you.  

I'm not trying to flame all of NYC, but some of these posts are just a
trifle ridiculous.  I'm sure that you poor, unenlightened people from 
New York don't realize it, but people don't like to read condescending 
posts telling us things we already knew :).

"It's a New York thing".  How does being from New York state differ from 
being from anywhere else? :) :)

Maybe we could just discuss what happened instead of giving people 
explanations they didn't ask for, about things they probably already
knew.  Sure, there are things that are unique about living in NYC, 
but everybody's experiences are unique.  Careful, or I'll start telling
you all the little details of my day-to-day life. (Might put you to
sleep :))

Insert a :) wherever you might have been offended.

David Cross
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From: sheppard@warthog.nas.nasa.gov (Douglas R. Sheppard)
Subject: Re: Why is Seinfeld funny?
Keywords: Tunafish
Followup-To: Broccolli
Organization: Spinach
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:13:48 GMT
Distribution: alt.tv.seinfeld

In article <1992Nov13.024842.8895@muddcs.claremont.edu>, jhamblet@fenris.claremont.edu (Jodi A. Hambleton) writes:
|> I watch Seinfeld with my boyfriend every Wednesday, but he does not think
|> that the show is very funny.  I think it is the best sitcom on TV.  He does
|> not like the fact that the show always features the characters getting into 
|> some kind of mess and that they are always lying to each other.  I was trying
|> to explain to him why the show is funny, but I could not think of a very good
|> reason.  It just is funny.  I think it might be because it portrays real
|> life.  It is a parody of life.  There are so many funny lines and
|> situations.  Maybe my boyfriend just takes the show too seriously.  Maybe he
|> can not laugh at himself, which is what I think Seinfeld asks us to do.
|> 
|> Seinfeld is hilarious, but why?  Could someone please give me an
|> explanation that I could tell my boyfriend.  You can email me a response or
|> post it.  Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Jodi Hambleton
|> Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA
|> 
|> jhamblet@fenris.claremont.edu


I think it is a lost cause to try and explain the humor to your boyfriend.
You should just ditch him.

-doug
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From: mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Subject: Re: So who won the bet?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:23:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.131225.13745@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.121207.21658@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
>>
>>Did anyone keep score on the buzzer flames?
>>Poor guy really got hammered by us. I hope he didn't
>>run away - maybe just wised up a little.
>
>NY bashing is as popular outside NYC as New Jersey bashing is inside
>NYC.  The nice thing about having lived in NYC is that your sensitivity
>is lowered to such things as these flamers.

So are you trying to say that the rest of the country (and the world)
are so joyful to live in that everyone is super-sensitive to remarks
posted on a newsgroup?
I think that the rest of us are just as insensitive as NYers!

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From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Re: 11/18/92 episode...One of the funniest 30 min of TV ever...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:47:21 GMT

jefhkahn@iastate.edu (Jeffrey H Kahn) writes:

>What I think is funny is how none of the posts that I've seen about 
>this show have mentioned the M-word either.  Just like in the show, 
>none of us can say mast..., masterb..., uh, you know. 

What you mean to say is, "Are you *master* of your domain?"

>Jef.
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From: rspw@backyard.bellcore.com (Bob Warznak)
Subject: About the Episode Guide
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 13:35:38 GMT

As I indicated in yesterday's post, I'm going to post the Guide today.
I am posting this separate, since the last time I posted the Guide, it
didn't make it everywhere.  If you don't see it, send me email instead
of posting a request, and I will send you a copy.  But please try and
get it off this group first.  I've already gotten a lot of requests
yesterday.  If you sent me email yesterday, and you can't get it from
this group, then send me email again.  It would be easier for me to
handle it that way, rather than me sending it to all those that sent
me email and those that posted to the group.
 
-- 
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rspw@backyard.bellcore.com
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(908) 699-2488
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From: jes@downey.dev.macsch.com (John Schiermeier)
Subject: Re: NY inside humour
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:20:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.124347.8786@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> barnett@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Mark Barnett) writes:
>Anyone notice what I thought was way way inside
>New York humor on the 11/11 show? Elaine buzzes
>to get into Jerry's apartment building and a few
>seconds later buzzes again --- Jerry pushes the
>intercom button and says "Yeah?" (or whatever)
>and Elaine answers "I missed it"
>
>I wonder how many people caught what was going
>on there?
>
What is unique to New York about this?  Just about every crime-ridden
city, including my current (LA) and previous (St. Louis) residences,
have door buzzers.

John
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 15 city tour?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:26:38 GMT
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In article <By02v3.46A@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>In article <Bxu0HE.A9x@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich) writes:
>>   Don't underestimate the power of the kibosh!!!
>
>Is it true that the word 'kibosh' derives from the same source as the
>word 'posh'?

No. Kibosh is one of the rare cases of modern English borrowing
from Hebrew. A few words entered the vocabulary of the British
soldiers from the Jewish settlers in Palestine during the
period of the mandate. Kibosh is from the hebrew root k.b.sh
(pronounced kavash) which means "to conquer." In colloquial
usage it came to mean to "squash" or "stomp on."

>
>Incidentally, there is no such word as 'gullible' in Webster's.
>

On the contrary, from my Webster's:


gull.ible \'g*l-*-b*l\ \-ble-\ aj : easily deceived, cheated, or duped - 
   gull.ibly av


Jack F. Love
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From: gossain@valhalla.sps.mot.com (Raj Gossain)
Subject: Re: Shameless Snapple plugs
Organization: SPS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:12:15 GMT

In article 10901@walter.bellcore.com, kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
> ...
>Howard still does, and for good reason (Snapple is actually quite good- esp.
>the Raspberry Iced Tea!).  But Snapple isn't just a "NY thing" anymore.  I've 
>found it sold in stores and quite popular in other areas along the east coast 
>that aren't near NY.  I'm not sure if Snapple is available in other regions 
>of the country though.
>
>-- 
>
>Kevin H. Klinge
>Bell Communications Research
>kevink@soac.bellcore.com

Just bought a case of it from Price Club (warehouse discount store) here in Arizona. 
In fact, as I left the stack of Snapple cases, I overheard a lady criticizing
her husband, saying "You just want to buy it because Seinfeld drinks it."
Looks like Jerry has helped pick up Snapple sales nationwide.

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From: jefhkahn@iastate.edu (Jeffrey H Kahn)
Subject: Re: Updated episode guide
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:30:56 GMT


I know this is a popular request these days, but could someone send 
me an episode guide?  Also, is there a FAQ for Seinfeld?  How do I 
go about getting the basic stuff?  And why are all my sentences 
questions?


Thanks.
Jef.
From: bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: Updated episode guide
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:13:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Thank you thank you thank you Bob.
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: The "New York Thing"
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:29:25 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/trn/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu

In article <BxxAqC.Lz7@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>
>PS.  I'm not really as grouchy by nature as I probably sound.  As a
>matter of fact, some of my best friends (who live in Manhattan) have the
>same attitude, and it amuses me no end, because not one of them was born
>there!  How quickly the outsider loves to assume insider attitudes! :-)

Actually this reminds me that the most fanatically New York City 
person I know was born and raised in Cleveland and educated in
Wisconsin. Maybe there's something to this...

Jack F. Love
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: So who won the bet?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.002338.6194@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.131225.13745@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh) writes:
>>
>>NY bashing is as popular outside NYC as New Jersey bashing is inside
>>NYC.  The nice thing about having lived in NYC is that your sensitivity
>>is lowered to such things as these flamers.
>
>So are you trying to say that the rest of the country (and the world)
>are so joyful to live in that everyone is super-sensitive to remarks
>posted on a newsgroup?


>I think that the rest of us are just as insensitive as NYers!
>        ^
         |
If the above is true, Matt, then why do the "non-New Yorkers" take such
offense when I say "only a New Yorker can ____ ____ ____(fill in the blanks)"?

Of course, it is easier to bash others than it is to take criticism yourself.
What I said in my posting (above) is that NYers can take as well as give.  

Jeremy

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From: dnuttall@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Jerry's Macintosh (also mountain bike!)
Reply-To: dnuttall@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:33:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.172100.4538@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>, costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.155514.16756@sctc.com> bies@sctc.com (Marty Bies) writes:
>>zedaker@next07wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller) writes:
>>
>>>In article <27OCT199223261057@utkvx3.utk.edu> ddenk@utkvx3.utk.edu (Deanna  
>>>P. Denk) writes:
>>>> Just another trivial observation...
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry has a Mac in his apt. Anybody remember an epsisode where the thing  
>>>is
>>>> actually turned on?
>>
>>>No I don't.  I've also observed that he never rides his mountain bike!
>>>Any others?        
>>
>>Hi:  I'm not what you call a bike expert, though I do own a mountain bike, It seems to me that it is not Jerry's
bike hanging on the wall.  The seat is positioned to high up.  Doesn't Jerry have a bad back?  If so, riding in
that position would kill his back.  My opinion.
Lata 4 u
Doris Nuttall
>
>>BTW 11-4 show was fantastic!  This season is getting better every show.
>>
>>Marty
>>
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
Subject: Re: The "New York Thing"
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:31:35 GMT
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In article <BxvIGL.7G4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> CROSSD@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (David Cross) writes:
>
>It seems to me that some people (myself included) feel as though they 
>are being condescended to.  I suppose that this would be OK if I really
>wasn't following along with the show, but that simply isn't the case.
>Do you really think that NYC is the only place they have apartment 
>security systems?  They had those annoying buzzers and door locks in 
>the small town (~4500 people) where I grew up 15 years ago!  Maybe 
>those of us from Central Illinois should be explaining the show to
>New Yorkers.
>
>David Cross


I think you're over-reacting a bit. All this shows is that
New Yorkers (such as myself) are just as parochial as anyone
else. I remember sneaking into a Car 54 Where Are You scene
(it was filmed near my childhood home in the Bronx) and then
staring at the screen week after week to see if I made it
into the cut. The neat thing about these discussions is that
allows some of us to remember things pleasant or otherwise
about home town experiences, and it shows that we're not
as jaded as some would have. 

Btw, I tried my favorite childhood drink of Yoo Hoo about
a year ago. Awful. Just plain awful.

Jack F. Love
Newsgroups: alt.tv.seinfeld
From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Shameless Snapple plugs
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:01:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.125614.10901@walter.bellcore.com>,
kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
> 
> Howard still does, and for good reason (Snapple is actually quite good- esp.
> the Raspberry Iced Tea!).  But Snapple isn't just a "NY thing"
anymore.  I've 
> found it sold in stores and quite popular in other areas along the
east coast 
> that aren't near NY.  I'm not sure if Snapple is available in other regions 
> of the country though.

  I live in South Florida, and a vituperous radio talk show host
  named Neil Rogers has been drinking (and plugging) Snapple for 
  quite sometime.

  I thought it was a piss every time someone offered Snapple.
  In fact, I thought the whole episode was hysterical.  Each
  one is getting funnier, if that's possible.

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