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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: TNG Novels Compendium [Intro]
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:19:38 GMT

   

   The next release of the TNG Novels Compendium is once again ready.
This month's novel is _War_Drums_ by John Vornholt.

   The file in the following post contains all pages of the guide
which have changed since the last release; removing the headers 
and printing will yield updated pages to be substituted into your
copies in place of outdated pages.  The complete Compendium is
available ONLY by E-mail request to rccarm00@mik.uky.edu.  When
requesting, please specify if you need ASCII format; otherwise,
you will receive uuencoded, TARred and compressed data.

   
Latest Changes to the TNG Pocket Books Novels Compendium    Sept. 8, 1992  
=========================================================================

**   The Compendium now consists of the main body (tngnovls.cmp)
     and *8* appendices. 
     
**   The posting with the subject "TNG Novels Compendium [update]"
     contains all pages of the Compendium which have changed since
     the last release.  Simply cut out the header information, 
     print the file, and replace the old pages with the new ones.

**   If you would like a complete copy of the Compendium, it
     is available by E-mail request from rccarm00@mik.uky.edu.

     Have fun, and feel free to send along any suggestions,
complaints, comments, etc...

RC Carman
09/08/92
 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: cecilia@juliet.caltech.edu (Prof. Wagstaff)
Subject: Re: STNG sucks!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: dal
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:38:00 GMT

In article <Bu6718.175@cs.dal.ca>, ian@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ian Littlewood) writes...
>In <1992Sep6.082014.27021@unlv.edu> sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
> 
>>Great...not even a week goes by since I've started following this
>>newsgroup again, and we're already getting drivel like this:
> 
>>In article <Sep06.052102.20138@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
>>>Keywords: 	Listen all of you fags out there, there's only one real Star
> 
>>No fags here...but I won't speak for anybody else.
> 
>>>Trek and that's
>>>	the original.  This New Generation shit has boring plots, just a lot of good
> 
>>New Generation?  I thought that was some sort of anti-baldness
>>treatment...or the group of people that supposedly drink Pepsi (yecch).
> 
>>>	special effects -  so what.  It's the script that counts and Shatner's
>>>portrayal
>>>	of Kirk was perfect.  I've watched a few episodes and I don't see the
>>>suspense ,
>>>	the action, or the wit of the "real" Star Trek.    Stop denying the
>>>truth to your-
>>>	selves, STNG sucks!!!
> 
>>I could make some sort of "microbrain" comment, but I won't.  If you
>>don't like the show, don't watch it.  Each of the two series has its
>>merits...TOS is, as you write, more action-oriented.  TNG, on the
>>other hand, is more cerebral and requires a slightly more active
>>thought process (more active than yours, perhaps? <zing> ) to
>>comprehend.
> 
>>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
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> 
>HA! I agree with the original poster -- there is only * 1 * Star Trek... and that
>is "STAR TREK", not this TNG rubbish. Star Trek is action-oriented, yes... but
>TNG more cerebral??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!! 
>Baking powder... exsqueeze me? It's so damn slow (cerebrally speaking) that a 
>corpse on valium could outpace it... they never go anywhere and every show is
>an excuse to spend 50 minutes ferrying diplomats around the galaxy, agonizing
>over the Prime Directive and then finding an excuse at the end to break it and let 
>Patrick Stewart make a grandiose speech about morality and ethics... PATHETIC!

THEN DON'T WATCH IT!! Simple enough.  We don't need or want to plow through
these high school type postings (I had enough of this type of mentality in the
early days of BBSing).
From: drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:10:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep10.220504.15280@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> lipscomb@lonestar.utsa.edu (David S. Lipscomb) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.210918.4546@cbfsb.cb.att.com> drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells) writes:
>>In article <92Sep10.154822.26326@acs.ucalgary.ca> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>>>In article <37877@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   ) writes:
>>
>>USS Enterprise CVN-65 (1961-present) is unique (therefore, Enterprise
>>class). She is the world's first nuclear carrier. She is powered by
>>8 reactors (modern carriers need only 2). She is still the world's
>>longest warship (1101.5 feet)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> how many service personel are usually on board?
>
>
Last time I checked, about 3100 crew, plus 2400 aircrew.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Subject: Re: Data's cat
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:02:47 GMT

rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com writes:
>
>My question is "does Spot drink out of the toilet" 8-).

What toilets?  I don't recall seeing toilets on the Enterprise... 8^)
-- 
Matt Gertz, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Name this series.
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:02:19 GMT

In article <8u7eqB1w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes:
>The postings under this heading seem to describe a series called
>Jason of Star Command, a Filmation live-action project which was a
>spin-off of their "Space Academy" for CBS Saturday mornings.
>One noteworthy bit of casting was in the first season, where James
>Doohan replaced Jonathan Harris in the role of the Academy commander.


Sadly, it's just about the only thing he's done outside of ST besides
Knight Rider 2000.  Oh, let's not forget that clever commercial for
...what was it...a garage door opener in the early 80's?



Jason of Start Command.  Ugh.  I thought it was bad even when I _was_
12.



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Wanted, Lead Crystal Enterprise...
From: mlelias@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu (Mike Elias (Milamber))
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:52:16 EDT
Organization: Miami University, Hamilton campus

	Hello all,

	Can anyone direct me to some of the good star trek collectables? 
Specifically, I am looking for a small (1" long) lead crystal TOS Enterprise. 
Preferably on an 18" chain.

	Reply either here or to the below address.

	Thanx,

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From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:40:10 GMT

Why is it that Star Trek is part of the navy?  Did the army disappear?
Do battle ships carry Marine Corps soldiers?
It makes sense that the federation should be a part of the navy since they
call their vessels ships.  But is the navy really going to rule outer
space?

--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 11:20:08 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STNG sucks!!!

In article <Sep06.052102.20138@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
Mitchell Kotler elloquently states:

[I've taken the liberty of fixing his rediculous posting technique so we can
actually READ what the little monkey has to say...]

>Listen all of you fags out there, there's only one real Star
>Trek and that's the original.

Football practice let out early today, Sonny?  I'm so glad that they
teach you social tolerance at Colorado State.  Not only have you judged
us on what we find entertaining, but you have also specified our sexual
orientation.  By the way, the preffered word is Homosexual.  A Fag is a
cigarette.

>This New Generation shit has boring plots, just a lot
>of good special effects.

They sure are, aren't they?  ;-)

>-  so what.  It's the script that counts and Shatner's
>portrayal of Kirk was perfect.

Compared against whom else?  I was only aware of Shatner playing Kirk.
Ohhhhhh, you must have meant John Belushi in the SNL Trek skits.  I see.

>I've watched a few episodes and I don't see the
>suspense ,
>the action, or the wit of the "real" Star Trek.

I'll put epidosdes like Yesterday's Enterprise, Cause and Effect,
Remember Me, and The Inner Light against any one of the old shows.
Oh, I forgot.  The way to Eden with the space hippies "We're goin'
to Eden, yeeaaah brother", now *THATS* quality Star Trek.  Boy, maybe
you're right.  That one FAR surpasses anything that ST:TNG writers have
come up with...

>Stop denying the
>truth to your-
>selves, STNG sucks!!!

Different strokes for different folks.  You'll learn that in your second
semester of college.   I think that comparisons between the two shows
is rediculous.  They may be in the same genre, but they only share a
common history.  ST:TNG is a different type of show than ST:TOS.  Gee,
I can't wait until you post how much you hated the animated show because
you couldn't see the cleavage on Yoeman Rand.  Comparing ST:TOS with ST:TNG
at this point is like comparing Bonanza with High Chapparal (Remember that
one??  ;-!).  Same genre, different shows.

So go back to the hole you appeared from and realize that it is *you* who has
intruded upon *our* space.  We would welcome your intelligent questions, but
you have just made it into my killfile.  Sorry.  I'll look for your posts in
alt.rec.i'm.an.asshole.really.i.am


Hans C. Masing | HCM100@PSUVM.psu.edu  | Penn State University MIS Dept |

If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is
"God is crying."  And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to
tell him is "Probably because of something you did."  - Jack Handey
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: DS9: Who will write? (was Re: DS9: Who will star?)
Summary: No spec scripts
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 05:31:08 GMT

In article <92248.091606KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (KELSEY, Michael H.) writes:
>On a related topic, is there any chance we will get some _good_ writers
>for DS9, perhaps even Mr. David himself, as opposed to the current crop
>of Hollywood writers do TNG scripts?
>                                              -- Mike Kelsey
>

This is all I know about writers for DSN:
"...If everything materializes as planned, production on Star Trek: Deep
Space Nine will begin in June, 1992, with a television debut in January,
1993.

"Until further notice, the producers of Star Trek: The Next Generation will
*not* entertain any speculative submissions regarding the new series nor
will they read any Next Generation scripts involving the new characters or
circumstances of DSN.  Any material of this nature will be returned
*unread*.

"Please understand that any information regarding the characters, sets of
circumstances in the new series will not be available in the form of a
writer's/director's guide (a.k.a. a writer's bible) until mid to late 1992,
at the earliest.  This publication will *not* be available to the general
public.  Only agents registered with the Writers Guild of America (WGA)
will be able to obtain copies for their professional clients.  Please, do
not ask for this material before summer, 1992!

"The producers of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine are not expect to open the
submission process for the new series to unageneted writers of speculative
scripts until some point after the series has premiered in 1993.  Please do
not write or call Star Trek production offices asking for new or updated
information before that time.  We appreciate your cooperation.

"Thank you."
                          Paramount, Deep Space Nine Notice, undated.

My notes indicate that they would not initially accept unsolicited scripts
from agents for, probably, the first year.  The show needs to "find its
voice" and get settled.  That means staff writers will be handling it, or
selected writers, but I had the clear impression it would be staff.*

*  I "have been known to be wrong...on occasion..."  C3P0, TESB.



Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Re: STTNG clip on Entertainment Tonight
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:30:08 GMT

In article <lag8tvINNsap@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franq
ui) writes:
>I don't know if anyone saw it, but right before the Emmy awards E.T. was
>interviewing the producer from STTNG.  While they talked, clips were being
>shown of the show.  To me they were clips I had never seen before.  They
>included the Enterprise being enveloped by a green beam originating from the
>planet below.  However the most striking scene was Riker talking to Data's
>HEAD.  That's right, seperated from the body and hooked up to the E's computer
.
>The head was placed on the table, and yes the eyes were moving and so was the
>mouth.  Did anyone else see it, perhaps and most probably it is part two to th
e
>season ender.

I saw the same scene on a special called the best of TV or something like that.
It is not from a previous STNG episode




J.P.
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Seminar
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 08:53:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Eileen!

Thanks! It's interesting, as I hoped ...

[es] "Droids R Us"--the crew goes to the strange planet of masterless androids
     who believe Data is God.  No $$ in this category, either.
I don't have any idea, where the title of the category comes from, but
this could be interesting, since Data is far more than an android.

But when I now read through what you wrote, I've no problems understanding,
why most of the TNG-episodes I saw so far, are soooooooo boring ...

Thanks a lot for your efforts to type all this in. I'm sure, I know some
other Trekkers (without net-access), who will love to read this ...

Oyori - Sem [half-grinning, half mourning, in Norhtern Germany]
From: john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STNG sucks!!!
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:52:22 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In article <Sep06.052102.20138@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
> Listen all of you fags out there, there's only one real Star Trek and
> that's the original.  This New Generation shit has boring plots, just a lot
> of good special effects -  so what.

Mitchell--I didn't know that gay people perfer TOS over TNG.  I would assume
that you know this from first hand experience.

I'm hetrosexual myself, and I like both series.  Each series has its good
points and short commings, but I find both enjoyable.  I would have suspected
that there were at least some gay people that had this same opinion.

-john-

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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:TNG & homosexuality
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:36:29 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <68117@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK) writes:
>
>	"The Outcast" went about as far as TNG needs to go in dealing with
>our modern problems with homosexuality.  It's always disturbed me to see
>the current writers use TNG as a facade for their 20th century liberal
>"soapboxing".  It seems quite rational that the reason we are spared    
>from seeing homosexuals within the ranks of Starfleet is that by the 
>24th century that particular illness will be cured.  The operative word 
>there is "illness", and that is, BTW, what we're dealing with.  Whether
>it's the result of one's emotional environment or some undiscovered
>physiological factor has yet to be determined.  When the cause is found,
>however, a cure will be forthcoming and homosexuality will become a thing
>of the past.

I have an "illness", but it is not homosexuality.  My "illness" is
the fact that I don't like to eat chicken.  For some reason, I
like to eat unhealthy hamburger instead of healthy chicken.  Unlike
most people, I don't seem to like the taste of chicken.  Maybe
someday, someone, somehow, will find a "cure" for me.  Until then,
I "choose" to dislike the taste of chicken;  I "choose" to like the
taste of hamburger.  Maybe it is my emotional environment, or some
undiscovered physiological factor that has yet to be determined.

Now if we can find a "cure" for the "illness" of being left-handed...

>Sean
>
>-- 
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>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Spoliers for "the Hidden Driveway"
Originator: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:41:23 GMT

Netters!

Spoiler for "The Hidden Driveway" follows,

Did that work?

	There is a rumour of an upcoming 6th season episode in which Sela takes
a Warbird back to the 23rd century (post STVI) and captures several members of 
the TOS crew in a diabolical plot to alter the course of Federation history.
It is not certain if Wm. Shatner has signed for the episode or not but          apparently Capt. Sulu will be appearing with the Excelsior along with "several
familiar faces" in the crew.  The uplink date is supposed to be during the week
Nov. 31 to Dec 6.  Has any one else heard about this?  I am losing sleep over
this one!  Help!

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung)
Subject: Re: DS9 to be "less cerebral????????"
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:27:02 GMT

root@bing.UUCP (Administrator) writes:
>One thing about DS9 that scares me is this bit that's going around about
>it being less cerebral.  Geez, I mean, I watch Startrek because it is
>cerebral.  If I wanted to see less cerebral shows, I'd be on my couch
>with a bag of potato chips watching "Cheers" reruns.

Maybe the correct analogy would be "Hunter" rerurns.
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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:TNG : Vendetta... re-run or new episode?
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:21:57 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep10.134646.14875@walter.bellcore.com>, semele@clintsalt
   (Semele Halkedis) writes:
>>Is Vendetta a re-run, or is this a new episode scheduled for the upcoming
>>season?  
> Vendetta is a book.  The name of the author escapes me at the moment.

I believe the author is Peter David (could be wrong).

                                       -Drizzt
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STTNG clip on Entertainment Tonight
From: arang@desire.wright.edu
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:08:42 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <lag8tvINNsap@aludra.usc.edu>, efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui) writes:
> I don't know if anyone saw it, but right before the Emmy awards E.T. was
> interviewing the producer from STTNG.  While they talked, clips were being
> shown of the show.  To me they were clips I had never seen before.  They 
> included the Enterprise being enveloped by a green beam originating from the
> planet below.  However the most striking scene was Riker talking to Data's 
> HEAD.  That's right, seperated from the body and hooked up to the E's computer.
> The head was placed on the table, and yes the eyes were moving and so was the
> mouth.  Did anyone else see it, perhaps and most probably it is part two to the
> season ender.

In "Disaster" Riker talks to Data's head because he had to remove his head
after Data's body got a little fried.  That's probably the scene they used.


Amy Rang
Wright State University