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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Cellular scanning
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:50:44 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <13411@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>>Since I'm new to SWL and Scanning, I haven't been following the info about the
>>banning of scanning cellulars.  Will there now be a run on scanners?  If I
>>wanted to beat the ban, what would be an inexpensive canner that would pick up
>>cellular, police, fire, etc?  What frequencies would I look for?
> >  Thanks,
>  >     Brian
>   >    bsmorgan@sdrc.com
>
>Brian brings up a good point.  Although this is not yet law, it may soon be.
>What scanners still on the market come with, or can easily be converted to,
>800MHZ Cellular reception?
>

All radios can EASILY be converted to cellular reception, relatively 
inexpensively (even a common broadcast band radio).  Don't worry about it,
there will be books of HOW-TO instructions with detailed parts lists,
and KITS to do it since selling paper with writing on it is not illegal
and electronics parts are not illegal.

Relax, if you want one, buy one, and modify it yourself with a kit.



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| Brent L. Irvine         |  "Reality is not the world, but the perception of |
| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu |   the world."			-Sneakers     |
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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Passport to World Band-->NOT!
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:29:12 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

The technical quality of Larry Magne's receiver reviews really took a
nosedive when he left the WRTH editorial staff to do his own thing.
He concentrates too much on minor details about design and appearance,
and less on PERFORMANCE the way he used to. Jonathan Marks' reviews on
Radio Nederland and in the WRTH are much more useful to me.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:01:38 EDT
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Subject:      Passport

From: Robert R. Stone
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I like Larry Magne's reviews. They are detailed enough for every one to make
choices, regardless of area of interest. Also, if you have not read the 'White
Papers' he publishes on the table top models, you should. They are very
comprehensive.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Every reviewer will have a point of view. And each reviewers emphasis will be
different. Being somewhat knowledgeable about photography, I shudder when I
read Consumer Reports reviews of cameras. They tend to dramatically
overemphasize ease of use, at the expense of capability. I have seen many of
my students regret purchasing a specific camera based on Consumer Reports and
find that later it cannot do something they would like to try.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
So if Larry's point of view is that of an SWL Band Scanner, OK; at least he
covers the whole field. There are precious few other places to turn. WRTH is
the only other source I know of except the DAK catalog! :-)
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From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Cellular scanning
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:56:29 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


                       Subject:                               Time:9:27 AM
>  OFFICE MEMO          Cellular scanning                      Date:10/9/92
>Since I'm new to SWL and Scanning, I haven't been following the info about the
>banning of scanning cellulars.  Will there now be a run on scanners?  If I
>wanted to beat the ban, what would be an inexpensive canner that would pick up
>cellular, police, fire, etc?  What frequencies would I look for?
 >  Thanks,
  >     Brian
   >    bsmorgan@sdrc.com

Brian brings up a good point.  Although this is not yet law, it may soon be.
What scanners still on the market come with, or can easily be converted to,
800MHZ Cellular reception?

	Dave


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From:         CMORRISO@SNYESCVA.BITNET
Subject:      Rugby in October.

        17th:  Rugby Union, France v. South Africa, Lyon.
        24th:  "     "    , "          "          , Paris.
        24th:  Rugby League, World Cup Final, Australia v. Great Britain,
Wembley.
        31st:  Rugby Union, Ireland v. Australia, Dublin.

        Not too much details.  Just a list of sports events covered in
Sportsworld and Sports Roundup, page 17 of October LC.

                                                Chris Morrison
                                                8 Renfrewshire Drive
                                                Middletown, NY  10940-1405
                                                (914) 692-2770 (voice)
                                                        (after 2 p.m.)
                                                CMorriso@snyescva.bitnet
From: STUWILKR@EKU.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Luxemburg
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:02:15 GMT
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On a recent "media network" from Radio Netherlands, I heard that Radio Luxemburg
is going to shut down broadcasts in English in January. Has anyone heard about
what is going to happen to the 15350 KhZ frequency? Will Radio Luxemburg's
German service take over?
        Also, does anyone out there have any shortwave schedules from
German domestic broadcasters? I think I heard "Sudwestfunk" a few times
in the evening (east coast time) at around 7265 KhZ. Are there others?

                                                    Mark Wilkerson
                                                 Eastern Kentucky Uni.

               Bitnet: STUWILKR@EKU
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From: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com (John Brewer)
Subject: CSM Shortwave schedule?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Date: 12 OCT 92 10:04:36    


	Does anyone have the address to send a e-mail off to
	in order to get a current Christian Science Monitor
	Shortwave schedule?  I received one this summer, but
	the schedule is dated as expiring in September.
	73/john

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      |   wb5oau    | Packet  | wb5oau@wb2ars               |
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From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Idiots in Congress
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:33:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Oct10.185208.17980@eng.umd.edu>, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
> Yeah, RIGHT!  Who do you think started this whole scanner ban thing?  Trust
> me, it wasn't the tooth fairy, she likes to listen too.

Actually, I don't know.  I can name some likely supporters, though:
(a) technically-ignorant Congresscritters who think they've solved a
problem; (b) those politicians who have discussed indiscreet things
via cellular phones, and think this will protect them; (c) people
who are genuinely concerned with the right to privacy, but don't
understand that they aren't doing anything substantive; (d) cellular
providers who don't want to have to retrofit real encryption to their
systems (though I should note that they are *very* interested in
*strong* authentication of the call setup, since they're losing large
amounts of money to cellular fraud); and (e) the FBI, the NSA, the
DEA, and all those other fine folks who don't want to see any decent
encryption technology used in the civilian sector -- look at their
track record of late on other bills.  Naturally, for categories (c),
(d), and (e), you'll also have their allies in Congress.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re:  Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 16:29:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <9210071344.AA10969@cs.utexas.edu> wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) writes:
>
>Moving to a new format of broadcasting, whether it be SSB or digital, 
>destroys that continuity. Sure, there are ham rigs from the '30s on that
>tune SSB, but that isn't the point. There is a sharp cutoff introduced
>which says that there is an abupt change as of this point, and
>everything is different afterwards. This is what I object to. We should
>strive to maintain this historical continuity, not destroy it. A radio

Just the sudden appearance of radio broadcasting created an abrupt change
in "the continuity of history".  Prior to the development of the "new fangled"
invention "radio", there was no radio receivers, and no radio broadcasters.

The development of radio also signaled the death of several currently existing
"technologies".  After radio, it was no longer necessary to carry messages
overseas by boat.  These messages could be handled more efficiently by radio.
After the development of a nationwide telegraph system, and a nationwide rail
system, it was no longer necessary to send the mail by pony express.  The
development of the automobile, the truck and the tractor all but ended the
working life of the draft horse and mule.  The development of the train
signaled the end to the use of canals as a primary means of the inland 
transport of goods.

Even in the history of radio, there were many events that signaled the end of
older radio techniques.  Just try and receive police calls on your old 1940's
police radio... or FM on your old Armstrong radio with the 45Mhz FM band.  Just
try and fire up your old spark transmitter....

History is full of pivotal moments where the methods of the past give way to
the methods of the present.  Nostalgia is great, and comforting when progress
moves faster than makes you feel comfortable; but standing in the way of
progress will only get you trampled.

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Yaesu FRT 7000
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:02:48 GMT
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I just bought a used Yaesu FRT 7000 for $250. I am very happy with it. Can
anyone make any comments, good or bad about this receiver?

Thanks. 
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From:         CMORRISO@SNYESCVA.BITNET
Subject:      Cellular scanning.

        If the damnfools that run the cellular companies really want to
sell more units, they should see to it that the cost of using the goddam
things goes down.  The phones keep getting cheaper and cheaper to buy but
from what I hear the charges for actually using them are still outrageous
and the commercials for the companies get as close as possible to laying
xxx lying about it without actually saying anything that is a proven lie.
But in the fashion of American business they have this gimmick that they
think will make people suddenly start to buy cellular phones.  The reason
people aren't buying is they're afraid people can listen in, right?
The privacy advocates are the same ones who try to say that if you can
have caller id to find out the identity of all the second-rate con artists
that call up to sell you something, it's going to mean that battered women
are going to be afraid to call for help and such garbage.

                                        Chris Morrison
                                        CMorriso@snyescva.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Rayl Canadian Air Farce
From: "Michael E. Kloepfer" <KLOEPFER@UNCG.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:42:55 -0400
Reply-To: "Michael E. Kloepfer" <KLOEPFER@UNCG.BITNET>
Organization: University of NC at Greensboro
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i stumbled onto the air farce last saturday (10-10) at 2005utc on 17820khz.

they were playing a sample of the the greatest hits cassette rci is offering.

the show ended rather aburtly at 2030.
From: brian.westlake@f605.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Brian Westlake)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: VLF
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:02:02 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Hi,
   Just a quick query. I wondered if it is possible to decode the VLF
transmissions on 19Khz.  I understand that most of the VLF and ELF
transmissions are used to commuicate with submarines, is this being phased
out?  
    I once bought a VLF converter for my HF receiver but the AM BCB 
bleedthrough was untolerable.  Are there any alternatives to using such
a converter?
Best Wishes,
Brian.


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 * Origin: SHORTWAVE POSSUMS: Why CHESS & SWL anyway?! (3:713/605.0)
From: patrick.mcdonald@f605.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Patrick McDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio New Zealand International
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:06:00 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: Ramanath+@Pitt.Edu
Hi there, Ramanath+@Pitt.Edu. On Sep 24, you wrote:

 -}Could someone post/e-mail Radio New Zealand frequencies and broadcast
 -}timings?  If it's part of the FAQ file, I'd appreciate info on how I
 -}can access it.

Here she be, Ram . . .


                        RADIO NEW ZEALAND INTERNATIONAL

                          "SUMMER" FREQUENCY SCHEDULE

                           EFFECTIVE 04 OCTOBER, 1992

                |*******************************************|
                |  TIME UTC  |  FREQUENCY KHZ  |  COMMENTS  |
                |************|*****************|************|
                |            |                 |            |
                | 1650-1849  |      9675       |  SUN-FRI   |
                |            |                 |            |
                | 1850-2138  |     15120       |  SUN-FRI   |
                |            |                 |            |
                | 2139-0658  |     17770       |   DAILY    |
                |            |                 |            |
                | 0659-1207  |      9700       |   DAILY    |
                |            |                 |            |
                | 1208-1649  |      9510       | OCCAS. USE |
                |            |                 |            |
                |*******************************************|


    Regards,

      Patrick
 

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From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Shack DX-342 First Impressions
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:46:39 EDT
Organization: 

I finally picked up a DX-342 at lunch time today.
It's a tiny FM/AM/SW receiver that sells for $70.
The dial is analog, and the tuning range is some-
what limited. For example, it isn't possible to
receive WWV/WWVH on any frequency. Tuning into
the uncalibrated part of Band 4 allows reception
of BBC on 12095 kHz, and I'm pretty sure I'll be
able to receive WWCR on 7435.

Sensitivity is pretty low; the specs in the Owner's
Manual state about 32 uV for 20 dB S+N/N!!! With
the short whip....you get the idea. 

There may be a defect in the unit I have, as the
SW audio sounds "digitized," with a lingering 
buzz after syllables. 

I'm going to give it a few more days' tryout, as
I want something real small to take on trips. I'll
compare it with a friend's DX-350, too

I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a first receiver!
The tuning dial calibration is a rough guess, it
doesn't hear that well, I've noticed a few spurious
responses ("birdies"), etc. Looks good for a beach
radio, though.

Good listening.

Jim Kearman
From: rko@cs.tut.fi (Risto Kotalampi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: `Echos' on SW stations
Date: 8 Oct 1992 08:10:45 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
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In article <6924@kielouta.fi> tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{) writes:
>This "echo" is not caused by signals travelling around the golbe but by
>signals relayed via satellite.  In Finland we can hear this same "echo"
>when listening to BBC, Radio Moscow and sometimes to North American AM-
>stations, eg. on 1290 or 1470 kHz.

The echo can be caused by signals travelling around the world. Ham
radio operators knows this phenomena from upper bands (especially on
10 meters). It is true that the echo is usually generated as Jorma
described, but on upper broadcast bands (13 and 11 m) the echo
is usually caused by multi-path propagation.

-rko
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# Risto Kotalampi, rko@cs.tut.fi     #   
# Tampere University of Technology   #  
# Signal Processing Laboratory       #
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From: danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik)
Subject: Re: Programs on DXing, SWLing?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:24:20 GMT

   You can also add R. Czechoslovakia (formerly R. Prague) to that
list.  The program airs on Saturday evening during their 0100 and 0300
EE broadcasts to NA on 5930 and 7345 kHz.

73, Dan KB6NU
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From: greadore@jscprofs.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Radio Japan
Organization: nasa/jsc
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:50:22 GMT

In article <1bhg06INNkp7@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> ecpzp@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr
V A Noronha) writes:
>
>Does anyone have the latest frequency schedule of Radio Japan in English to
Europe (short of writing to them)?
>
>Many thanks.
>
Try 5960 khz at 0100 GMT and 15230,15355 khz at 0300 GMT.  The broadcast at
0100 GMT is one hour and the 0300 GMT broadcast is a half hour.

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From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Subject: Idiots in Congress
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:43:02 GMT

Well our unworthy lawmakers have really screwed up the scanner business
by passing a ridiculous law banning the sale of receivers capable of 
receiving cellular frequencies. I suppose they have even benned cellular
phones themselves (although I haven't read the text), since a cellular
phone is a receiver capable of receiving cellular transmissions.

I wonder if selective voltmeters have been banned too? what about
Spectrum analyzers? How about mixers that could be used with
a scanner and an RF generator to heterodyne a cellular frequency down
to the 440 mhz ham band? Etc, Etc,....

This garbage thought process our fools on the hill have expoused
reminds me of efforts to ban so called Assault Rifle, and large 
capacity magazines: Lo protect us from ourselves, we are too stupid
to do so! And you could tell how it would pass for sure: the media
was already starting the scare tactics, the Washington Post article,
the spot on 48Hours, etc... it was all designed to influence the
Congresscritters. No, when the media decides something has to go
they go after it. We really do not control anything,

The sad thing about this new law is that in a few years the problem
of cellular privacy would solve itself as over crowded urban areas will
force a change to digital technology anyway for better spectrum utilization.
Meanwhile we have the nose of the Camel in our tent: the precedent has
been set. I now envision the police arguing for privacy citing the cellular 
ban. next will be the fire and other emergency services. Finally they
will ban receiving everything except for broadcasts and amateur services.

A very dark day indeed!

I will vote for no incumbents in the Congress!

-- 
Richard Crisp       Cupertino, Ca.          crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
From: lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Summary: McKay-Dymek DR333---Stoner Enterprises---C. Crane
	 Velly Interesting...
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:44:13 GMT
Reply-To: lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: na



I had a chance to talk with Wes Olson of Stoner Communications, 
one of the developers of the DR333, at some length a few weeks 
ago. I've also spent a few weeks playing with the software...
I feel the same way about this Radio that I felt about the
SONY 2010 ten years ago...this is the future of Radio 
technology. I've gotta get this rig! Wes was a great guy to 
talk to. I won't buy a Radio unless I like the people I have 
to deal with and Wes met my criteria and then some: extremely 
knowledgable, called me at his expense, and knew the radio 
inside and out... you could tell he was proud of his radio...

The software is nice...maybe not as advanced as some of the 
NRD535 stuff but there seems to be plenty of room for 
development... The Standard Operating Program (SOP) is my fav 
of the two programs that come with the Radio. Easy to 
use..does all the necessaries (scan, channels, sig strength 
indicator, very clean and fun to use), what I'd call a 
military-style interface, good for use in tight spots (;@}) 
clean and clear, down and dirty, my kind of stuff...the GUI 
type (SPP: SPECIAL PURPOSE PROGRAM) was ok but I'm not crazy 
about Windows either... but it does feature a very nice 
spectrum analyzer and let me tell you it's a gret tool to have 
when running a radio...absolutely fabulous... 

I'd really like to run this radio under a 386 notebook
using OS/2 where I'd have access to SWData, Geoclock,
BCcast, Rtty decoders, Hamcom, and the Spectrum Analyzer
in a few keystrokes...I'm officially putting this on my
Santa list...who's using this baby?        

A few more tidbits:
There are cable connectors at the IF ports already in place.
There are already a few government contracts out on these so 
customer support over the longer haul should be good.
The flyboys like these radios because of their excellent 
dynamic range (easy to hear in noisy cockpit conditions)...
Spooks like 'em too: at one kilo the non-descript little  
blackbox is easy to transport and it performs...
Low power draw (about 320mA) suggests to me I could use
my favorite power source (solar cells/power pack) quite
nicely.
The McKay-Dymek DA100D portable amplified antenna makes an
excellent companion for the radio in tight spots...another
nice looking piece of equipment. Both are available from
C.Crane in CA. The Radio lists in their catalogue for
$1295...my next radio as soon as I can afford it...
anyone out there have one? Sorry for the long blurb
but I like this radio...a lot.
 


-- 

Brett Breitwieser / KC6UPU @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA / grid CM86XX
lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us   (...netcom!cruzio!lancelot)
425 Ninth Ave., Santa Cruz, CA. 95062-3915 / (408)475-9156 voice
genie: A.BREITWIESE  / fido: 1:216/509 / SETI: the Ultimate DX