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From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel
Keywords: Intel 14.4EX
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 20:58:27 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

john@cutler.com (John E. Babbitt Jr.) writes:

> In article <21SEP199217142943@pavo.concordia.ca>, p_quinn@pavo.concordia.ca (
> > 
> > 	A couple of days ago I asked about the Practical Peripheral and the 
> > Supra 14.4 modems.  How about the Intel 14.4?  Anyone love it? hate it?
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> 
> Here, we have eight of these Intel 14.4EX modems.  Connects at 14.4kb and
> supports 38.4kb ports.  Not a single problem with any of them.

Similar information here.  My system communicates with the outside world
exclusively through the Intel 14.4EX, and I've had _no_ problems with it.
Intel warranty service covered my only problem (an electrical storm fried
the output TTL line drivers... and they repaired it without any problems).
On the whole, I've been very happy with its performance and ease of use.

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange)
Subject: Supra Fax Modems - Please summarize
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:11:02 GMT

Hello, I am really thinking about buying a SupraFaxModem and would like to  
get a summary of the thread of discussion about them in comp.dcom.modems  
and csn.misc

Thanks.
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From: pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Good, cheap 14.4K modem (UK)
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:02:32 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Sep29.083108.26215@cs.hw.ac.uk> scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn) writes:
>Hi,
>I am looking for, as you might have guessed, a good, cheap 14.4K
>modem :)
>I recently read a review of 9600/14400 baud modems in Computer Shopper (UK).
>They looked at a dead cheap, 300 pounds - an Image Twincom, I think.
>Said it was excellent value, but not the most reliable at high speed.
>Anyone have any comments, even if 14.4K is unreliable, 300 pounds for
>9600 is still pretty good.  I can't afford much above 300 pounds.

>If any has any other recommendations, please let me know.  Again, prices only
>apply in UK.

First Choice Computer Centre ((0532) 319444)
are advertising the SupraFaxModem V32bis
at #259.99 including VAT, delivery, BT phone
lead and 240V PSU.

(I've never dealt with them, so I don't know
what they are like.)

Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: doug@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Douglas Thomson)
Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 08:54:52 GMT

maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels) writes:
>1420 bytes / second is not that bad on a 14400 baud line (which transfers
>at most 1440 bytes per second!)

At 8 bits per byte, assuming incompresible data, the absolute upper limit
for a 14400 bps modem is 14400/8 = 1800 bytes/s. However, there must be
some overhead for the LAPM protocol, so actual figures will be slightly
below this. Can someone who is familiar with the protocols tell us (remind
us?) what the best case overheads are for both MNP4 and LAPM on perfect
lines? I have heard figures around the 5% mark, but this would imply an
upper limit of 1710 bytes/s and many people are quoting figures above
this...

Doug.
(doug@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: USRobotics Sportster gets awfully warm!
From: rlm@surfcty.com (Robert McMillin)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 06:54:21 PDT
Reply-To: rlm@mcgort.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Surf City Software, Orange, Calfornia - DUDE!

impact@crhc.uiuc.edu (Temporary Account for HP visitors) writes:

> I've heard that Practical Peripheral modems get very warm
> as well. We use to have a Hayes Smartmodem 2400 and I seem
> to recall it also getting a bit warm toward the back, but
> the unit had a metal casing with a larger surface area than
> the sportster (which helped dissipate some heat).

PP's 14400FXSA hasn't got any heat problems as far as I know -- mine 
stays cool as a cucumber, assuming you leave your cucumbers out at room
temperature.  No, the problems I've had with this modem have been more
due to line trouble than anything else... it seems that the PP is fairly
line sensitive, although the symptoms of my woes seem to be more along 
the line of telco dropping packets somewhere inter-switch.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 40% Discount of ZyXELs
From: graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart)
Date: 28 Sep 92 8:59:55 GMT

Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org once wrote....
>To all who is interested, you can recieve a 40% discount of the purchase of a 
>ZyXEL Modem if you submit an ANSI entry and fill out our Contest Form.  You
>can get the rules from us at 714-693-0762 or 1:202/701.  The file is
>Contest.Zip

I've just dialled up, and couldn't find the file.  Could you please
post a copy here, or e-mail it to me.

>
>Tyrone Horton
>(Zero One)
>Tech Support
>ZyXEL USA
>
>---
Thanks
Graeme
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From: yenchee@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Yeng-Chee Su)
Subject: lots of ZyXEL users?
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:29:25 GMT


  I've some trouble here in the local BBS.  The local BBS player told me
that the ZyXEL has few users overseas.  I know the ZyXEL is a Taiwanese
company and I see lots of discussion about ZyXEL in this group.  I am
confused.  Does there anyone can give me a conception about the acceptation
of ZyXEL overseas?  By the way, the ZyXEL ROM 5.02 has been released.  Does
there any bugs available?  Thanks.

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From: inunn@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Complete Communicator
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:43:30 GMT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

I have used a Complete Answering machine for years and find it indispensible.
I inquired about the Complete Communicatior and my understanding is this:
Ther are two separate software programs, one for voice and one for fax. You
have one or the other running at any one time, but not both. Therefore, you
do not have the capability to automatically switch among voice, data and fax.

It is sometime since I looked at the product and I did not make a note of
why I failed to pursue it.  The above comment is the reason I recall. If my
above comment is incorrect, please correct me.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.apple2
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: I love Supra!
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:39:12 GMT

In article <BvE6AH.IoH@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>How does the Supra hold the line on long distance calls?  Someone here on
>the net was complaining about the Supra lack of ability to do just that.

I've been able to call sites in California, Ohio, England, and Sweden(!)
without any problems at either V.32 or V.32bis.  If I get a dirty line,
it sometimes fails to connect, but calling back with connect restricted
to 9600 ("ATN0S37=9") works fine.

Of course, the University uses digital phone switches, so our lines are
pretty clean.  From my home in Pennsylvania, I have a lot of trouble.
I borrowed a friend's Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA, and had the
same problems.

ObConfig: 1.200C roms; 16550A chip on COM2.


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Todd Radel                   | "I obscenity in the milk of all," Agustin said,
CIS/English undergrad        | "if it does not seem like a lunatic asylum in
University of Delaware       | here." -- Hemingway, _For Whom the Bell Tolls_
A.I. duPont Institute, 1600 Rockland Road, Wilmington, DE  19899
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:16:24 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USRobotics dual 14.4 upgradable to v.fast?
 <BvAzw8.IvJ@gator.rn.com> <6823@transfer.stratus.com>

In article <6823@transfer.stratus.com>, leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark
Curtis) says:

>In article <BvAzw8.IvJ@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
>writes:
>|> leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
>|>
>|> >V.fast is released they will want another $299.  For $100 to $150 more
>|>
>|> Is v.fast only a firmware upgrade or is more involved?

>When I first talked to USR they made it sound like the upgrade was just
>a new control ROM.  Their new ads make it look like a plug in daughter
>board.  No thing hasn't changed the price $299.

I got a USR Sportster today. Of course I immediately opened it up :),
and there are two board: a "motherboard" which is basically the analog
junk for the phone connection, speaker, etc. and a plug-in board
with all the digital circuits (DSP etc). My guess is that the "upgrade"
to V.fast will be a replacement of this daughterboard (I assume my modem
uses the same DSP board as the Couriers and the rest).
From: julien@incal.inria.fr (Julien Maisonneuve)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra hard to connect.
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:28:22 GMT

I have recently purchased a SupraFax modem v32bis, and experience showed that it
wasn't very easy to make work properly.

I used the supra to connect to connect to a number of different modems, among
which:
	- Telebit T2500 (latest 7.03 ROM) in V32 mode
	- USR courrier v32bis (2 month old).
The Telebit is well known for its infamous v32 implementation that seems to work
with no-one else in the world (even telebits have trouble to connect together in
v32 mode in my experience).
Well, it doesn't work well with the Supra either, while my old Cardinal V32
managed to keep a reasonable connection once out of 3 calls.
The Courrier v32bis is supposed to be a good v32bis, and Supra doesn't work very
well there.

What I can observe :
Connection is fine with both modems, but after a few dozens seconds of
connection, the Supra displays TE (transmission error) and RE (receive error),
usually it also retrains and go down the scale of speeds :
14.4->12->9.6->7.8->4.8->.3 and then hangs up without a word of explanation.
The supra consistently reports (AT%Q) a maximal line quality (0).

Maybe i'm using really bad lines but the behaviour has been rather consistent.
Has anyone had good connections between Supras and those modems ?

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From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: V32bis download speeds
Keywords: V32bis ZMODEM
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:45:14 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

>>
>>>... Calling a BBS with a USR Dual (14.4 v32bis) the most I can
>>>get using zmodem and zipped files on a download is about 1480cps. 
>>>My question is, is this a symptom of not having a 16550A UART? 
>>
>>I have a '286 with no-name I/O chips, and have gotten slightly better rates
>>than that... I have a PPI 14.4, and lock my port at 19.2 on high-speed connx.
>>Calling a Supra 14.4 I get up to about 1500cps on zipfiles and over 1800 on
>>"normal" files.  Calling another PPI, I've gotten almost 1650cps on zipfiles.
>>
>>I suspect it's probably just that your Boca and their USR aren't the best of
>>friends.  1480 isn't all that bad, for sending zips.
>>
>>-Shag
>>-- 
>>
>>     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
>>		- Queensryche
>
>Actually I've gotten up to 1700cps sending zips, but only about 1480cps
>receiving them. That's the puzzle. I've gotten over 2300 on text files
>though (including V42bis I presume).
>
>Laurence Chiu


I get Zips in at around 1650-1660 cps on average with Z-modem. I get around
3400 cps with text files the larger the file the higher the cps rate. 
Hasit 
BTW- This is on a macintosh with a ZyXEL U-1496E
From: aardvark@nt1l.krl.com (Donald Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SUPRA - new ROM version 1.2G? 1.2J?
Keywords: Barf
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:51:41 GMT
Organization: Koch Research Labs

In article <Lo92RB5w165w@hovel.welly.gen.nz>, cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross) writes:
> garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes:
> > 	I'm confused. Isn't it TRUE that SUPRA is offering a new 1.2G ROM  
> > upgrade? And a guy just came out selling the SUPRA v32bis for $265 with
> > the latest ROM 1.2J???????????
> > 
> > 	Is 1.2J an earlier or latter version of 1.2G?
> 
> 1.2J is the FREE upgrade Rom.  There is a 1.2H or something with caller-id
> features, for an extra $50 I think.
> 
Wrong.  1.2H is the new free rom upgrade and 1.2J is the Caller ID version
(available for $24.95 with shipping).  Current Supra modem owners should be
getting (or have gotten) a letter describing the new roms and how to order
them.  NB: before you blow $25 on the caller ID rom, make sure caller ID is
available in your state.  The rom upgrade offer expires Nov 30.

I've never heard of a 1.2G version (not that I'm saying there isn't one).
-- 
Don Koch
aardvark@nt1l.krl.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bud@kentrox.uucp (Bud Couch)
Subject: Re: Supra SHIPPING New ROMs
Keywords: Supra
Organization: ADC Kentrox, Portland OR
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:57:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.155816.5114@gremlin.muug.mb.ca> charles@gremlin.muug.mb.ca (Charles) writes:
>
>This begs the question....Just how similiar are the implmentations of
>modems using the Rockwell chipset?  Ie, What are the chances of say
>plugging in the Supra ROM to another of the Rockwell chipset modems?
>
In a word (or two), infinitesimal to none.

>I used to try plugging in PC BIOS's from other chipsets when I couldn't get
>an upgraded BIOS for the chipset that needed one, and I had a surprisingly
>high success rate, I wonder if it would be the same for modems?
>(This was back when AT chip sets were pretty generic, without caching,
>shadowing, EMS, etc.)
>
This was because everyone was slavishly *trying* to maintain hardware 
level compatibility to IBM. Since expansion boards had to plug in 
(and work!) with the clones ( a word that says it all) the manufacturers
were trying to make their equipment the same.

No such market leader, nor internal compatibility pressures exist in the
modem field.

As a design engineer with a communcations equipment manufacturer, I can 
testify to the fact that two different pieces of this companies' 
equipment, using the same uP, and the identical network chipset, with 
variations on the customer side, will *not* run on each others firmware. 

>*** net.moral.police note --- I don't own any Rockwell chipset modems so
>the question is purely academic and curiosity.
>
>Charles
>
That's not to say that there are no ethical issues involved here. If 
Supra really finds some software which will improve the Rockwell chipset
performance, you can be assured that the other manufacturers who use it
will buy one and attempt to reverse engineer it. Hell, I wouldn't be
surprised if Rockwell themselves did it. 

If I was Supra, and I did have a piece of miracle code, I'd go back to
Rockwell and offer to license it to them. They could have it six months
after I started shipping. This assumes that I am sure that my competition
is going to figure it out anyway. This gives me a six month head start, 
may forestall a competitor who might get lucky and get it out in one 
month, and provides me some additional revenue.

But then again, I'm not Supra... hell, I'm not even Kentrox. ;-)


-- 
  Bud Couch - ADC/Kentrox    | That which does not kill me makes me strong.  |
 If my employer only knew... |                              -Nietzsche       |
   standard BS applies	     | ... but why risk it?  - me                    |
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: medin@manta.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Subject: HELP - viva 14.4/fax settings
Keywords: viva settings
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:24:14 GMT

 Suddenly started having trouble connection to a hst/usr modem.
Suspect i have a register to change. I use the factory settings with
text answers. I get the "connect 14400" & then the session hangs till
carrier drops. Anyone with a viva what do you use for settings?
Or perhaps this a faq in which case i need the location of faq.
Thanks in advance.
 BTW the modem works fine to other 14.4 v32bis modems.
From: nol2321@dsacg4.dsac.dla.mil (Jim Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USR sporster can sup
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:04:06 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Columbus

With all this buying of 14.4k modems, is there anyone who wants to sell me
their 9600 Baud modems CHEAP!  (well, I mean, reasonably...)

Thanks!
Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL's -- do they ever work?
Keywords: ZyXEL
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:00:07 GMT

dirkst@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Dirk Steinberg) writes:
>has anyone ever seen a real *working* ZyXEL 1496E? I bought one a
>week ago from a dealer (supposedly at distibutor (?!?)) in Bonn.
>It didn't work. After half an hour, it just crashed with the LEDs

Every one of the dozens I've seen has worked fine, although I've heard
from people who have had them DOA and had to get them replaced.  I
would inquire as to what exactly their German disributor is doing...
-- 
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From: mai@ovum.ka.sub.org (Ulrich Mai)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Intel
Keywords: intel sfax 400 connect 2400 problem
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:00:57 CST
Distribution: world               
Organization: Ovum's Box

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>
> While my Intel SatisFAXtion 400 (internal) modem hasn't been perfect, I have
> to say that:
>
>     1)  For the most part, the modem does everything I'd like it to.
>     2)  The few bugs the modem came with have been fixed by software
>         updates, all of them off of the Intel BBS.  Their support,
>         particularly the BBS, has been very good; they seem to keep an eye
>         on user complaints; they at least try to offer suggestions to fix
>         the problem, and bugs that are repeatedly reported seem to be
>         handed over to Intel engineers for fixes.  All the bugs I've had
>         were fixed in six to eight weeks.
>
What is the version of your download.400? Have you ever tried to
connect (originate) to another modem at 2400 baud with \N0 set?
It didn't work in the first release, I complaint on Compuserve, it
didn't work on the 3.02 release. I am tired looking every week for
a new release, that doesn't fix the problem.



--
Ulrich Mai <mai@ovum.ka.sub.org>
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR sportster conversion announcement.
Date: 3 Oct 92 09:22:15 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> modems can't have trojan horses or viruses.

Incorrect. Please refer to the discussion of "ANSI Bombs". These are text 
files, that can reprogram your MS-DOS extended ANSI driver (if you happen to 
be using one), so that if you type a certain character, it would enter "format 
c: /u" etc, and before you have a chance to blink your eyes, your harddisk 
will be formatted, unconditionally. Not very funny. But note that this is 
plain (exended) ANSI. A text file could display it. A modem could send it. 
There's nothing strange about that. Conclusion: Modems can have trojan horses, 
but only for a selected target of computer systems and configurations.

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Why get caller ID?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:05:51 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <James_Mcormond.2315@jammys.ocunix.on.ca> James_Mcormond@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond) writes:
>section of my BBS on the CallerID functions of the modem.  Time limits and
>transfer ratios will be based on phone number, and for users which have
>been "Black listed", I simply don't answer the phone for them.

Uh, great.  Allow me to point out two problems with your plans:

1. What about people dialing out from a PBX system at work, where they
don't get the same outgoing line each time?

2. What about multiple users sharing a phone line?  What if one of
those users gets blacklisted, but the other doesn't?

And what possible need could you have for a blacklist feature?  Have
you ever had to do it to a user in the past?  Why?

I think it's very important -- and not just for BBS sysops, but for
everyone with CLID -- to remember that a telephone number is not a
unique identification number.  It would, of course, be nice if every
person had their own unique telephone number, which was automatically
routed to the telephone they're closest to, but I don't think we'll
see a system like that for at least 20 years.  (And, of course, such a
system has its disadvantages.  Knowing someone's location to the
nearest telephone will make tracking the movements of that person very
easy, especially if there are telephones on every street corner.)

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mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | the hard way, and the easy way.  Let's start
                            | with the hard way."
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