From: wendong@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Wen-Dong Tang)
Subject: Re: >> CSS in USA maybe become SCRAP HEAP in the future China
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:19:13 GMT

In article <CHEN.92Oct8195050@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp> chen@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp (Chen Jie) writes:
>------They claimed loudly for the democracy and human rights of Chinese people,
>but in fact what they are begging Uncle Sam to protect are themselves
>(see Protection Bill ).

I like your word "loudly", have you ever thought of those people who dare not
 or do not say anything about democracy of the Chinese people? They just can not
 see anybody get protected, if they are not. 
People who speak out for the democracy of China NEED to be proteceted. Shen
 Tong is an example. Those who think it is unnecessary could only be two kinds:
 he never say anything for his people (CCP of course will welcome him); or, he
 think the grape is bad because he can not eat.
Yes, there ARE people who did not do anything for democracy of
 China, and they came before 4/11/90. Can this be the reason opposing s1216? 
 I just want you guys think more about the majority. How many people will cut 
 off his hands because of a little wound?
The only reason is we Chinese just can not see others good.
>------They claimed loudly for the democracy and human rights of Chinese people,
>but in fact what they are begging Uncle Sam to do brings harm to
>those kind people inside China (see Bill lobbying for CMFC).

There ARE different opinions towards MFN of China among the CSS in US. I
 personally suport the conditional extension bill. The reason is simple: give
 some pressure on CCP for human rights in China. It has its disadvantage, but,
 I just wonder, anybody disagree with the decisions about cutting off relation-
 ship with China Bush made right after 6.4?  Anyone oppose the international
 sanction against Iraq?

>------They have not shown any action on what they should do, for example, 
>***********to protest USA's sell of F16's to Taiwan, which is 
>very dangerous to the Chinese people both in mainland China and in Taiwan;

CCP never promise Taiwanese that it will not use force against Taiwan, and in
 fact, it always threatens the poor Taiwanese: if you want independence, just
 look at my arm (The interesting thing is: CCP implies that; KMT advertises it)
 Recently, CCP got advanced USSR jetplane, have been doing all those nuclear
 weapon experiments? Why not the Taiwanese get some F16 to protect themselves?
  The situation is very obvious: KMT has given up recognizing CCP as enemy, it
 is not able to attack CCP even it wants. However, what we are seeing is the
 CCP are doing their bests to isolate Taiwan in the international society to
 force the Taiwanese eventurally uder its control.  
The fate of Taiwan should ONLY be determined by the people who live in Taiwan,
 not by any other part of Chinese people.  Just like you can not determine your
 brother's life. I really hope that you can use common sense to think such
 things before speaking.

>***********to help those poor kids in China to get basic education;
>*********** .......

As I know, some CSS donate money to the so-called SOS Eduction Fund. I don't,
 just because I believe the money I donate would not really go to those poor
 kids. Donation (through Red-Cross) for the flood was an example, you can read
 the reports by the Taiwanese journalists, if you do not know.

>In contrast, recent years the CSS in Japan are impressive for their talent 
>and hard working. It is reported that in the recent two years,
>among the CSS who came back to China to serve their people,
>the members from Japan are more than 40 percent of the total numbers,
>and they have brought many business chances to China. 
>
I fully respect CSS in Japan. I just can not praise them by debating others.


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