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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: obnoxious PUBLIC television
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:46:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.005116.27189@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>,
bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
> In article <BzqCq5.3r7@encore.com> jpenovic@encore.com writes:
> 
> >   statement, it sounds like you don't contribute.  If I'm
> >   mistaken, I'm sorry. If you don't contribute because
> >   you don't like the pledge drives, you shouldn't be taking
> >   advantage of their programming the rest of the year.
> 
> This is an incredibly elitist, snobbish and obnoxious statement. Think about
> what you're saying. You compare watching Public TV, which was created as
> a free tax-supported medium to PAY-PER-VIEW. What's the point of PBS if
> only those people who can afford it can watch? The whole idea was to expose
  I never said that people who couldn't afford to donate
  shouldn't watch PBS.  The original poster (was that you?) implied 
  that he didn't contribute to PBS because of the pledge drives, and 
  not that he couldn't afford it.  His original statement was that if 
  pledge drives were changed, he would consider contributing. That
  says to me that he can afford it, but he chooses not to
  because he's annoyed at the way they run their pledge
  drives.

> people to programs that no-one would privately subsidize. If PBS is going
> to be tied to private support then what makes it any different than HBO?

  Excuse me, but the reality is that PBS IS tied to private support.  
  If people didn't donate money who would pay for the shows? The
  government (even though it's our tax money). Not likely. 
  They're cutting back on what support they
  are giving, and many PBS stations get minimal government
  support to begin with. The producers of shows aren't going to donate 
  their programming.  So what do suggest?

  I feel that if people can afford to contribute, and they
  watch the programming, they should help pay for it.  When I
  was making very little money, I still sent in a few dollars
  every year even though it wasn't nearly as much as they were asking
  for a membership.

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From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Subject: ATTENTION: RAVEN FANS
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:40:30 GMT

For all Raven Fans:

Raven returns to the tube on Saturday, January 2, 9pm on CBS with new
episodes. For those who do not know who Raven is, be sure to tune in ... it's
a martial arts show.

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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Star on *four* or more shows?
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:04:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

Easy!

Tim Conway: The Carol Burnett Show, McHale's Navy, Ace Crawford -
Private eye, Tim

Oh, you mean sucessful series...

Bill Cosby : Fat Albert, I Spy, The Cosby Show, You Bet Your Life (?),
The Bill Cosby Show (2 seasons, does it count?), Picture Pages (2
minute filler show, been on for years), Captain Kangaroo (as of 1980),
Electric Company.

Jack Barry : Tic Tac Dough, Twenty-One, Jokers Wild, Juvenile Jury,
Winky Dink and You.

I'll do more research later. I have a book I can check, but I just got
an emergency call from the office, and have to work.... :-(

				John
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Summary: Amex commercial
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:22:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.194436.18100@cbnews.cb.att.com>, amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne) writes:
> In article <1992Dec24.133356.7945@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
> > 
> >     5c.  In the ENTIRE history of US TV commericals, you have 
> >          never seen a woman buying a gift for a man.
> 
> 
> What about the ad for the American Express card where the woman has
> just got a new one and takes her husband off for a weekend using
> it....? 

That *may* count - although she went along to - so she's just
footing the bill - not the same as buying him something.

marc colten
From: bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: the learning channel
Date: 29 Dec 1992 21:57:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


I'd like to know this as well.  They show a lot of shows on the
history of silent film, and I want to have them on tape--always
seems I end up in the middle of them every time they are on.

Terri in Cleveland
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Wish---Happy Holidays One And All!
From: fate@eskimo.com (Craig Stykel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Night Gallery
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:29:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-

edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
> 
> Is there a Night Gallery program guide?  I did not see it on
coe.montana.
> Has it appeared on video (except the three-episode pilot movie)?
> 
> -- 
>   Gerald A. Edgar                Internet:  edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu
>   Department of Mathematics      Bitnet:    EDGAR@OHSTPY
>   The Ohio State University      telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office)
>   Columbus, OH 43210             -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479
(Dept. Fax)
Yes there is..
try epi-log issue #3
It has 3 seasons of Night gallery, and 25 episodes of The Sixth Sense.
Syndicated as part of the night gallery...
good luck..
  fate@eskimo.com
From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: YICJ: Ever coming back?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:13:15 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec21.100259.1@skcla.monsanto.com>

>In article <71998@cup.portal.com>, BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) 
w
>rites:
>> Is it just me, or is there something wrong with the title
>> of this thread...
>>
>>
>> COME ON PEOPLE! GET YOUR ACRONYMS STRAIGHT!!! :-)
>
>Sorry about that... I've been getting professional help, and I'm working with
>DAM -- Mothers Against Dyslexia
>
>(sorry about that, too, but you did flame a typo)
 
   Well, as a rule, I don't flame typos either. But this one wasn't
   in the body of the message, it was in the title. This means it
   keeps showing up as long as this thread is active, and it does
   tend to make it difficult for someone to know what the heck
   you're talking about!
   
   Sorry about the flame, I just thought the typo was amusing!
   
   -Brian

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From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Subject: Re: Picket Fences Plot twist
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:53:42 GMT

> Peter Bennett writes:
>
> I just saw a bit of the Thanksgiving show on Picket Fences (rebroadcast
> 1/1/93).  I loved the plot twist they had for Richard Kiley's father/
> grandfather character and the young woman who came with him.  (She's not
> a money grabbing floozie, she has Cystic Fibrosis, and a very different
> outlook on life that goes with it)
>


That episode happened to be my initiation into the Picket Fences world, and I
really enjoyed it.

A mild disappointment was that it took an admittance by Suzanne that she had
CF before Jill could accept her. I only wished that Jill had seen the love
rather than the age.

I really like the conversation between Max and Kenny at the station ... it
was so unique.

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From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: SISTERS: Are the old intros gone?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:38:40 GMT

In article <92363.161540MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu> <MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu>  
writes:
> I saw the re-run this past saturday of last year's Christmas episode
> (where everyone gets salmonella poisoning from the eggnog) and
> they had this years intro tacked on (the b&w family shots).  Does
> anyone remember if this episode had the old steam room intro,
> and are the old intros never going to be used in favor of the new
> ones?

I believe this was the Santa intro- that is, Santa in the
steamroom.  That wouldn't be nearly as funny out of
context, but I'm not sure that's why they cut it. 

ab
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From: MCGLONE@auvm.american.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SISTERS: Are the old intros gone?
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:15:40 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

I saw the re-run this past saturday of last year's Christmas episode
(where everyone gets salmonella poisoning from the eggnog) and
they had this years intro tacked on (the b&w family shots).  Does
anyone remember if this episode had the old steam room intro,
and are the old intros never going to be used in favor of the new
ones?

If anyone has any info, I would appreciate it.  I really enjoyed the
old intros, and it would be sad if they only live on in personal
videotaped episodes, never to be broadcast again. . .

Colleen McGlone
Internet: MCGLONE@AMERICAN.EDU
Bitnet: MCGLONE@AUVM
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From: teresak@IMD.Sterling.COM (TK)
Subject: How to Save our HOMEFRONT
Organization: Sterling Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:11:15 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 45d7938fde1694463dbec4a7bfaef437


        Hello All,

        I usually don't post to this group, (just read it!), but
        I'm writing to implore to any of you who watch "HOMEFRONT"
        to understand that Shelving and Cancelling are Two Different 
        things, and we need to get the point across to ABC and
        Lorimar Productions that there are people who watch the show
        and that if they (TPTB) would quit messing around with it
        and it's timeslot, "HOMEFRONT" could possibly be one of the
        top drama shows on the market!

        I just finished writing a letter to ABC, hoping that the address
        is correct, and made it a point to state that "HOMEFRONT" had it's
        day and time switched so often in the second season, that it's
        no wonder people aren't watching it in the quantity they expected,
        they can't find it!!

        If you are interested in writing to Lorimar Productions or ABC,
        these are the addresses I was given.  If there is a correction
        to them, please post so that everyone can see.

        HOMEFRONT                          ATTN: Robert Iger
        c/o Lorimar Productions            ABC-TV
        10202 W. Washington Blvd           77 West 66th Street
        Culver City, CA  90232             New York, NY  10023

        Thanks for the support, it's a shame that we have to fight
        to keep quality shows on the air, regardless if they are
        comedy or drama.  Please help us in our attempt to keep this
        great show on!  "HOMEFRONT" will be broadcast next spring,
        but after that, who knows.   
        
        We have a chance to right a terrible wrong, so please write,
        and write often!!

                                      Keep the Homefires Burning!!!
                          
                                                      TK

        P.S.  If anyone has a list of sponsors and there addresses,
              Please POST or email to my listed address!  If we 
              bombard them with letters and postcards too,explaining
              how we love the show, and their product (hopefully ;-)
              and how we have more respect for a sponsor such as them
              because they back QUALITY  we may have additional
              additional ammunition for getting and keeping  
              quality programming on the air!!  Thanks for all the
              the help in advance!!!    
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Summary: Men in TV commercials
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:33:56 GMT

In article <BzMH1r.2rp@ddsw1.mcs.com>, starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) writes:
> 
> On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:36:02 GMT, rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris),
> in Message-ID: <1992Dec18.123602.24269@sadtler.com> writes:
> 
> >In article <BzD4C4.Iou@ddsw1.mcs.com> starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) 
> >writes: 
> >>
> >>   Real Men don't clean toilets.
> >
> >But what about the dudes in the Liquid Plummer commercial?
> 
>    Bzzzzt. :)
> 
>    That falls under the heading of plumbing/fix-it/maintenance. I defy 
> anyone to come up with a commercial in the last 20 years that showed a guy 
> with a brush and a disinfectant actually cleaning a toilet.
> 
>    Real Men don't iron clothes, either. ;)
> 
> [Tangent: what stereotypically feminine household chores HAVE men been
>           seen performing in U.S. commercials?]
> 

In US commercials men are incapable of doing anything.  In
the vein  "what we've learned":

1)  If "mom" is sick - it takes one hour for "dad" to ruin 
    the house until it looks like bears have been living there.

2)  Men are so cute when they try to cook. (and then ruin it)

3)  Men are at their best when they wash their wives hair.

4)  Men don't know what coffee to drink, medicine to take
    (men are such babies when they're sick), dishwasher
    liquid to use (thank goodness "mom Jr." is there to 
    set him straight)

5)  Men's sole function is to buy things for their wives
    (preferably diamonds):
    
    5a.  "We recommend you spent 3 months salary on the diamond"

    5b.  "I'm sorry you had to wait 10 years for the diamond"

    5c.  In the ENTIRE history of US TV commericals, you have 
         never seen a woman buying a gift for a man.


marc colten
From: 00mebroda@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: REN & STIMPY EPISODES
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:50:25 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


Could someone send me a complete episode guide for The Ren & Stimpy Show?
After John k got fired and the show went into extended repeats again, I
stopped watching and missed the start of the new shows, so I have no clue
how many I've missed.

I would post to the R & S newsgroup, but it doesn't function on our
usenet system.

						mike
						brodacom@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
From: pbertsch@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Peggy Bertsch)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:21:41 GMT
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv

>Anyone notice throughout the 70's & 80's that almost all TV detectives
>drove candy-apple red sportscars?

....except for Barnaby Jones and Cannon (Cannon couldn't *fit* into a 
sportscar :-)

***

"I would love to have been in William Conrad's agent's office when he 
called Conrad to tell him about the latest role he had for him...
'Hi, Bill?  Great news!!  How would you like a starring role in a new T.V.
series?  It's called "Jake and the Fatman"...nooooooo, you're not *Jake*...'

       -- Jeff Blazy, comedian

***
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From: amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne)
Subject: Re: FOREVER KNIGHT
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:37:29 GMT
Summary: thanks, got it.
Keywords: Knight

In article <1992Dec31.190838.5400@cbnews.cb.att.com>, amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne) writes:
> I forgot to turn my receiver on Tuesday night for the Forever
> Knight broadcast.  Can someone tell me the name of the episode?


Thanks to several people. I got my answer.  The episode was
a rerun of Hunters.  (I've already got a copy.)  Phew!
Arlene Osborne
From: Wedge@cup.portal.com (Craig Teruo Matsumoto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Enough of the QL stuff
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:25:00 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec17.005055.17875@pages.com> <1992Dec18.144553.15436@thinkage.on.ca>

A Quantum Leap newsgroup was turned down by majority vote just this
summer.  As someone who *likes* reading the QL postings, I'd like to
say that yes, it would be nice to have them all in their own news-
group, but the consensus was not to do it that way.

Star Trek has its own group(s) because, according to one source/urban myth,
nearly 50% of ALL traffic on the net (postings & personal e-mail) is
related to or at least mentions Trek.  The number is apocryphal, but
you do have to admit...the QL postings are a drop in the bucket
compared to the Trek traffic.

Personally, I'd like to see the QL newsgroup up for vote yet again,
but I'm not sure how you petition for something like that.  In the
meantime, you'll have to put up with us...sorry!  :-)

Craig Matsumoto
wedge@cup.portal.com
From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Marine! Major Dad PICTURE
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:40:12 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

wtj@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (william.t.jensen) writes:

> Has anyone noticed that the portrait to the left of
> the door that leads to the room where Gunny sits, is of
> Lewis "Chesty" Puller?

Forgive my ignorance -- but who is Lewis "Chesty" Puller?

Tom
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From: dzembj@sage4a.its.rpi.edu (Jason Eric Dzembo)
Subject: Re: QL: January 1993 USA Schedule
Reply-To: dzembj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:24:56 GMT

|> 01/04 o 1900 Thou Shalt Not ...          (02/02/74)
|> 01/05 o 1900 Jimmy                       (10/14/64)
|> 01/06 o 1900 So Help Me God              (07/29/57)
|> 01/07 o 1900 Catch a Falling Star        (06/21/79)
|> 01/08 o 1900 A Portrait for Troian       (02/07/71)
|> 01/09 o 1900 Animal Frat                 (10/19/67)
|> 01/11 o 1900 Another Mother              (09/30/81)
|>       x 2200 Rebel without a Clue        (???)
|> 01/12 o 1900 All-Americans               (11/06/62 
|> 01/13 o 1900 Her Charm                   (09/26/73)
|> 01/14 o 1900 Freedom                     (11/22/70)
|> 01/15 o 1900 Good Night, Dear Heart      (11/09/57)In article <1992Dec30.122930.1@stsci.edu>, heyer@stsci.edu writes:
|> Schedule for Quantum Leap on USA:
|> 01/11 o 1900 Another Mother              (09/30/81)
|>       x 2200 Rebel without a Clue        (???)
                                            (9/1/58)
|> 01/18 o 1900 Leaping In Without A Net    (11/18/58)
|>       x 2200 Heart of a Champion         (07/25/55)
Any idea why a) it's only these two Mondays that have at 10:00 episode (is
it going to become a regular thing if it goes over well?), and b) why they
chose these two particular episodes, which are out of order (they probably
didn't want to put them in order because, again, a lot of people wouldn't
realize at first that the show is also on at 10:00 that night and people
would be upset if they missed an episode which would normally have been shown
on Tuesday, because it was shown later on Wednesday...I think that sentence
made sense...:-)

|> 01/22 x 1900 The Leap Home I             (11/25/69)
|> 01/23 x 1900 The Leap Home II (Vietnam)  (04/07/70)
Aha!  Could this be the reason for the reinstatment of Saturday episodes?  So
they could get both parts back to back?  (Nah...this is USA we're talking
about...;-)

|> 01/30 x 1900 The Great Spontini          (05/09/74)
Hmmm...any idea what the first episode in February is going to be?  Rebel
Without a Clue would normally follow Spontini, but since they're showing
it in January....On the same token, though, they're showing at a special
time in January, so maybe they'll show it at it's regular time in February...
I'm so confused.  :-)

						- Jason, the .sigless
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 13:45:12 CST
From: <U20190@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
 <Dec.15.15.58.49.1992.23270@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
 <1992Dec16.144427.16924@b15.ingr.com> <1h7nsmINNhpb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

   The good guy can always talk a brainwashed/revenge-bent friend into
giving him the gun/putting the gun down.
From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Slight time goof in QL:  Promised Land (no real spoiler
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:05:10 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec19.200640.16762@midway.uchicago.edu>
  <Dec.20.00.44.51.1992.8791@pilot.njin.net>


>> On a happier note, I rate the almost-high-five in this episode as one
>> of the best moments in QL.  anyone agree?
>
>Well, Yes & no...
>
>As far as humor goes, it is probably the best. Though, I would say
>that there are also 'Dramatic' and 'Emotional' moments, which can't be
>compared. Best moment in the emotional category is still the end of
>MIA. Dramatically, 'Shock Theater'.
>
>Of course, thats my Humble Opinion.
>
>                        John

     As a light moment, yup, the 'almost high-five' was wonderful. I
     also liked the 'almost pie-in-the-face' at the end of 'Stand Up'.
     Another good moment was Al's reaction to Ptah-hotep at the end
     of 'Curse of Ptah-Hotep'. For pure emotion, or drama, my favorite
     is still 'M.I.A.', with "Leap Home, Part 1" being a very close
     second. 
     
     -Brian
     
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