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From: wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Help!! I need a Condo!
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:47:22 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA

Hello fellow Ski Bums!!!

	I am a college student (senior) at the Mlwaukee School of 
Engineering and in desperate need of a condo in the Summit area for the
end of February and/or the Beginning of March.  We are on the Quarter
system here, therefore, our "Spring Break" falls in the first week of
March.  I had a condo available through a friend, but he just recently 
sold it, and the new owner wants a ridiculous amount of money for just
one week.  Knowing that all skiers help each other I figured I would send
a plea out to all fellow snow followers.  If anyone knows of a condo/
townhouse in either the Dillon or Frisco area that is priced within reason
for one week any and all help will be greatly appreciated.  I'm looking for
a place that would sleep 6-8 comfortably.  Myself and friends are mature
enough to rent from anyone and rest assured the place will not get
"trashed" !!  If there is anyone out there who can give me a hand just mail
me or give me a call (414)543-9701  e-mail--wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu

Thanks in advance!!!

   P.S. Let's all pray to the snow gods so the entire country
        get's dumped on!!

--John Wesloski--
From: dwing@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing in Summit County
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:08:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.141205.13991@kpc.com>, dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston) 
writes:

> The best deals on skis, IMO, are at Colorado Ski and Golf in Aurora. Jerome's
> got the lowest prices and best service around.

I agree.  And their service is excellent.  They guarentee that your new boots 
will fit by the end of the season or they'll take 'em back and give you
store credit for your purchase price.

Their prices are also very good, ski shop does good work, and the people
are always friendly.

-Dan Wing, Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver (DGW11)
 Internet: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU, or DWING@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
 BITNET:   WING_D@UCOLMCC, or DWING@CUDENVER
Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:40:08 -0500 
From: James Francis Thomas <jt2t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Colorado?

Does antone know what resorts are open, and what the conditions are like?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston)
Subject: Re: Snow in Colorado
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:42:45 GMT

In article <SSH.92Nov5085542@snow.boulder.ibm.com> <ssh@vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>My first season ticket was $75.  Ok.  So it was Nubs Nob, Michigan.  So!?!?!
>--

MINE TOO!!!! Unfortunately I learned how to ski in 1964  at Mt. Brighton.
(Yeah Steve, It's ME!!)

>Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
>Computer drone, powder churner                                     ISSC Boulder
From: hl0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Harold S. Lessure)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Aspen report anyone?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:29:18 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

try the following for a REALLY comprehensive weather info!!
(then wait to hear from a local via email)

telnet madlab.sprl.umich.edu 3000

just follow the user-friendly instructions...
Try it you'll like it.
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From: meniconi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (carlo nicola meniconi)
Subject: INFO about Innsbruck ski area
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:42:38 GMT


Hi there!!! I will probably go during New Year's holidays to Innsbruck and I
would like to have some informations about the city , the places that I must
absolutely see, the party or other during New Year celebrities , the near ski   area and so on. Thanks to everyone who tell me something.

							    NICK
                                                meniconi@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it


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From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: Is or will Sunday River be open for Turkey Day ?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:27:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.175316.23084@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross) writes:
|> I'd love to ski the day after Thanksgiving.  Since I'm going to be in the 
|> White Mountains, I was wondering if Sunday River is open or will be open by 
|> then. Skiing that weekend just might get me through my finals.

  Yep - it's open! But Sunday River, like all other Northeastern resorts, will
be very crowded Thanksgiving weekend - the terrain will be limited but the 
crowds won't! Stick to skiing just on Thanksgiving day itself. If you can't 
ski then - don't bother.

-Ron
From: tt@wag.caltech.edu (Toshi Takeuchi)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Anything happen to ASA?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 11:22:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: seurat.wag.caltech.edu

In article <2340038@hpgrla.gr.hp.com> jonw@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Jon Wade) writes:


>...all that was good about ASA left before the buyout and in my
>humble opinion only the very worst as far as questionable marketing practices
>and people is left.

>Jon

I went to the Ski Dazzle at Los Angeles yesterday, and I found that
they were giving away ASA cards for "free".

Great I thought, but I open up the package when I get home and
find a message:

Thank you for applying for the ASA Visa credit card.

I never knew that I was applying for a credit card!!

This may be just shady tactics of the ASA people at the convention, but
it's awfully bad marketing to give "free" cards if you apply for their
Visa card.

Toshi
From: sbaker@marlin.dr.att.com (131P70000-BakerSA(DR7603)236)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: BIGFEET
Keywords: do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:43:33 GMT

In article <tp923083.721443872@redwood>, tp923083@redwood.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt) writes:
|> 
|> Hey, does anyone know anything about those little skis called 'Bigfeet'
|> ?
|> They look kinda cool.

I saw Billy Kidd hawking these at A-Basin a couple of springs ago.  They
had some novelty value but otherwise seemed kinda stupid.  They were demo'ing
them for anyone who'd try, but the ski staff eventually kicked them off the
slopes after the snow started to get too soft.  These things left some pretty
deep ruts and divots in the snow.

Regards,


Steve Baker
AT&T Bell Labs
Denver, CO
sbaker@druhi.ATT.COM
--------------------

From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:17:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Colorado?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> 
> Does antone know what resorts are open, and what the conditions are like?
>

Well, Antone might, but I haven't talked to him lately.


Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:43:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.024044.11203@edsr.eds.com> hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.042544.6853@netcom.com> allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
>>Recently, a homophobic anti gay rights referendum was passed by the voters
>>in the state of Colorado. 
>>
>>Myself, along with many others, especially in some of the motss news
>>groups strongly urge everyone to BOYCOTT Colorado.
>>
>>If you feel you must ski in places such as Aspen and Veil, please
>>consider alternitives such as Utah, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, or
>>British Columbia.
>>
>>We must send a strong economic message to Colorado that what they did
>>was wrong!
>>
>>Remember! Boycott Colorado!!
>
>Jeeze, it's getting hard to be the new-age sensitive guy that I obviously
>am, and still have a good time!  Last year it was boycott Utah for their
>conservative stance on abortion.  And how can you ski Idaho with a good
>concience with all those nazis in Coeur d'Alene?  And Canada[....]

You hit the nail on the head...maybe its just me, but I'm getting really
sick of people like this telling me who I should feel sorry for and why
I should feel guilty for using brand X and why I shouldn't go skiing at
Y mountain 'cause they do something else thats not PC.
I think I've just hit a saturation point in terms of social concern because
the sad thing is that most of these causes I agree with and actually care
about. It just bothers me to try and be sensitive and understanding and 
concerned and get only another round of:
"You're only doing *THIS* much for the cause!!?!?. FOR SHAME!!!."
Skiing is one of the few things in the winter that doesn't depress the 
HELL out of me and I've been to Co. and loved it so I'm going back.
Call me a fascist,racist,bigoted bastard if you want, but I'll see you
on the slopes, or maybe not...more powder for me then I guess
(Hey, yeah..... boycott Co., yeah thats the ticket! :) ).

Too tired of it to care any more,
----Steve
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Re: Jackson Hole: Places to stay.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:09:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.skiing

In article <BxB6p8.86q.1@cs.cmu.edu>, faa@fil.CS.CMU.EDU (Fil Alleva)
wrote:
> 
> My wife and I are planning a ski trip right after the first of the
> year and we want to know what are good places to stay in and around
> Jackson Hole. We don't want to spend a fortune but we don't mind paying
> for a nice place that has good access to area slopes.

There are a number of cheap but decent hotels right in the village.  Call
Central Reservations for more info:

(800) 443-6931

Jon
From: dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Info on new skis wanted !
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:29:01 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1dpg68INN9i1@alnitak.usc.edu> bohner@alnitak.usc.edu (Wolfgang Bohner) writes:
>I ski for 24 years, all terrain. I enjoy mostly moguls and extreme steep runs.
>I keep my skis extremely parrallel and ski aggressively. I try to avoid blue/
>groomed runs.
>
>A friend in Europe recommended me the 
>
>	Dynastar Extreme  SL or Vertical Assault.
>
>Does anybody have any experience with these skis? Are there any good alter-
>natives?
>I saw the Dynastar Extreme Vertical Assault '91/92 model for $240. Is that a
>good deal?
>
I ski on Verticals. I find them to be responsive, but squirrely at high
speeds in the shorter lengths. $240 is a very good price for these boards.
Try to get them in a length greater than 203cm or you too will find them
unstable at speed. I haven't found a viable alternative for the Vertical
yet, but I do like the Coupe du Monde GS for it's stability and manouverability.

P.S. I have a nasty habit of skiing off the tails of my skis, Dynastar's
designs force me forward. No success with Kastle's in general.
From: scott@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Experience with Snowflower at Park City?
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:00:01 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: scott@porter.austin.ibm.com


Anyone have any words-of-wisdom for this accomodation in Park City, Utah?
It claims a 5BD/den with ski-in/ski-out for $525/night.  Anyone familiar with
the area know if it is REALLY ski-in/ski-out?

-Scott
From: mhoyt@crchh47.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Michael Hoyt)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:44:58 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

In article <1992Nov5.042544.6853@netcom.com>, allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
|> Recently, a homophobic anti gay rights referendum was passed by the voters
|> in the state of Colorado. 
|> 
|> Myself, along with many others, especially in some of the motss news
|> groups strongly urge everyone to BOYCOTT Colorado.
|> 
|> If you feel you must ski in places such as Aspen and Veil, please
|> consider alternitives such as Utah, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, or
|> British Columbia.
|> 
|> We must send a strong economic message to Colorado that what they did
|> was wrong!
|> 
|> Remember! Boycott Colorado!!

One of the reasons I enjoy skiing is that it is an escape from the rat race that
we almost all live in.  The basic act of skiing, (snow, mountains, gravity) 
triggers a pleasure center somewhere deep within me.  In its pure form, skiing 
taps into something deeper than just a physical thrill.  In some respects, it 
becomes and even goes beyond a spiritual experience.  

Granted, when I refer to skiing in its pure form, I am disregarding all the 
extraneous baggage that has been attached to it lately.  I am referring to 
commercialism, fashion, status and snobbery.  Now, it looks as though politics
has sunk its teeth into skiing.

Lets not corrupt skiing with the filth and deceipt of modern politics.  Not to
lessen the issue with the Colorado referendum, but please find another vehicle
to demonstrate your opposition.  

Mike. 
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From: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer)
Subject: Re: Changes at Alta - Doom
Reply-To: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:59:31 GMT

hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:
>Ah, Bob, good buddy, you miss the point!  Alta will never be the wonderous
>experience we remember from 20 years ago.  The whole experience has been
>ruined, and I'm pretty pissed about it.

20 yrs ago it took a week for the Great Basin High Pressure
temperature inversion smog to reach the bench...now it takes 1 maybe 2
(if the price of gas is way up) days.  So this whole damn valley isn't
what it used to be.  I mean, you used to live around here, now you
don't, so it isn't what it used to be.  Need I say more?  :-)

I think Russ is right...Idaho doesn't exist, it has no snow, there are
no ski areas, the lifts are all condemned, the runs are all flat, the
lines are *very* long, & you simply can't even get there from here.

Now, if I could only find a high-paying computer job in McCall...no,
no, hey, Yellowpine; that's it, Yellowpine!  Let's all become
skinheads & move to Yellowpine!



-- 
<> Bob `Bear' Geer <>  bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com           *    _\|/_  *       <>
<>      alta-holic <>   (this *often* works)     _\|/_    o   /|\    _\|/_  <>
<> Salt Lake City, <>  speaking only for myself,  /|\    <\       *   /|\   <>
<>          Ootah  <>  one of my many tricks          __ /__,               <>
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Re: Northwest skiing
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:43:28 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.skiing

In article <1992Nov4.205820.23826@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
fosterm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (FOSTER MICHAEL JOHN) wrote:
> 
> Hey, I'm moving up to Seattle, Washington in January and was wondering if
> anyone could pass on the names of some resorts in that area besides
> Whistler/Blackcomb.  Thanks.

There are 3 areas at Snoqualmie Summit on I90 named Snoqualmie, Ski Acres
and Alpental.  Alpental is the only one with _real_ black diamonds, but Ski
Acres has several tolerable bump runs.  Otherwise Snoqualmie and Ski Acres
are pretty much intermediate resorts with night skiing a mere 45 minutes
from Seattle.

Around Mt Rainier is Crystal, the closest thing Washington has to a
destination resort, and White Pass, where the Mahre brothers used to hang
out.  I've never been to White Pass, since it's on the southeast side of
the mountain, but Crystal is real nice.  Lots of room and good terrain. 
Plenty of steep and rocks, but the best part is that occasionally the
clouds clear and Mount Rainier comes out in all it's glory.  It even beats
the view of Lake Tahoe, which is saying something.  Of course, I've seen
Tahoe a lot more often.

On Highway 2 out of Everett is Stevens Pass, one of my favorite places in
the area.  It's only a bit farther than Snoqualmie summet and has more and
better terrain.  It's also cheap.  Watch out for the backside of Stevens
though.  It has one of the worst liftlines I have ever seen (and I've seen
some bad ones) because it only has 1 lift out.  Skip it on crowded days.

Finally, Mount Baker is in the north, just out of Bellingham.  This place
has the only view that rivals Crystal.  On the ride up the chair you get a
nice view of Mt Baker, a 12,000 ft volcano while on the trail down you get
a view of Mt Shuksan, one of the most photographed peaks in America.  Baker
also gets the most and earliest snow.  A friend said they were opening
soon.

Actually, there's one more that I know of called Mission Ridge on the east
side of I90, but I've never been there.

Of course, I still think Blackcomb is better than all of these, but it's a
lot farther to drive so I still ski all these places when I'm in Seattle.

Jon

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: janet@ntmtv.UUCP (Janet Jakstys)
Subject: Bruised Ankles
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:34:42 GMT

Excuse the repost...my address was messed up the first time.

I have very boney ankles and every time I go skiing they get
unbearably sore and very bruised.  I thought it was the boots,
but it's happened now with three different pairs/different brands.
I've tried wrapping my ankles in ace bandage, that didn't help.

Any other ideas?

-- 
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Janet Jakstys         UUCP:{ames,pyramid!amdahl,hplabs}!ntmtv!janet
Northern Telecom      INTERNET:ntmtv!janet@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Mtn. View, CA.

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From: cbrunson@vermont.East.Sun.COM (Chuck Brunson - Sun BOS Corporate Software Engineering)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Price Check: K9 Extreeme
Date: 13 Nov 1992 15:51:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cbrunson@vermont.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: vermont.east.sun.com

In article 8378@bnr.ca, mhoyt@crchh47.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Michael Hoyt) writes:
>Before you go and blow 400+ bucks on a pair of 92/93 Extremes, look around for
>a pair of last years models.  I picked up a brand new pair of the 91/92 Extremes 
>for $249.   The guy in the shop told me that there really wan't any difference 
>between the two models except for the cosmetics.  I saved about $200 bucks or more
>by not buying this years model.  That pretty much paid for the bindings!!

I'm not so sure about that. According to this month's Ski or Skiing magazine (I
can't remember), this years Extreme has a MUCH different flex pattern. I believe
its supposed to be more uniform (rounded) and a bit softer in the tails to make
it easier to ski in the bumps. Of course this could just be a lot of hype.


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From: roakes@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rick Oakes)
Subject: Re: Accomodation in Steamboat ??
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: rec.skiing
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:48:00 GMT

rols@xtc.shearson.com (Roland King) writes:

>Where are the really good, close to the slopes, expensive places to stay in Steamboat?

Well, the obvious answer is the Sheraton Hotel.  It is about 30 yards
from the Gondola building.  The last time I stayed there (at a DEEP
discount, or I couldn't have afforded it), I had a little trouble
with my skis.  At the end of the day, I skied to the Hotel, dropped
my skis in the repair shop in the basement, picked them up the next
morning all fixed, and walked over to the Gondola, ready to go again.

Without the group discount, 3 years ago, they wanted $120/night for a
single room.

--
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From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Snowmass Lodge & club
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:36:35 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: ISSC Boulder

The Snowmass Lodge and Club is an upper level lodging almost at the top of the
Snowmass Village.  It is ski to/from.  Nice place.  Not cheap...  :-)
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Computer drone, powder churner                                     ISSC Boulder
Xref: sparky rec.skiing:7285 misc.misc:3743 rec.sport.misc:1085
From: lucas@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Raistlin Majere)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,misc.misc,rec.sport.misc
Subject: Please read this regarding Colorado ski vacations.
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:10:53 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Conclave of High Sorcery, Wayreth Forest



	If you normally take a ski vacation to Colorado during the
holidays or at any other time during the sky season, please
reconsider your decision and go somewhere else, such as Wyoming or
Montana or any of the other widespread places in America or abroad.
Why you may ask? Recently, in Colorado, Coloradans passed Amendment 2. 
	Amendment 2 ALLOWS WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST
HOMOSEXUALS, which means that homosexuals could be fired strictly
based on their sexual preference. Please do not support this
amendment. Please don't spend your money in Colorado.

	----A concerned Coloradan against Amendment 2.

P.S. Send all hate messages and flames to /dev/null

-- 
Raistlin Majere, Alpha Institute. -  DOMAIN lucas@scicom.alphacdc.com
Order of the Black Robes, {csn,ncar,}!scicom!lucas  Kevin L. Lord
"Est Sularis Oth Mithas, My Honor is my Life." --- Michael
"Yes. So it generally ends." --- Raistlin Majere
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: Re: Telemark Ski Brakes
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:26:47

wayne trzyna writes:

   I'm soliciting opinions, hopefully based on experience, about the
   Volle release plates with brakes.  Do the brakes stay completely 
   out of the way as well as the brakes on downhill skis?  Are
   there any problems with them?

============================

The brakes on "Voile" release bindings are basically
the same as those on alpine bindings; although they
are of simpler design, and do not 'fold in' like the
lastest alpine brakes.  When in the compressed/skiing
position they lie even with the release plate, perhaps
extending a few mm below the top of the ski.

To facilitate the brake, a 2.5 mm plastic plate is
mounted under the entire release system.  Some skiers
like the increased elevation, some do not, most can't
tell.

In high-angle turns, your boots will hit the snow,
rather than the brake hitting.


jeff
From: rmandel@bu.edu (Richard Mandel)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Crested Butte
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:02:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hi out there:

	Can anyone give information about skiing at Crested Butte near 
Gunnison Colorado?  My travel agent recommended it as a good place for
family skiing.  My wife and I can get down any slope but are low level
advanced skiers.  Any recommendations?  

	Also, what is the outlook for snow for Christmas to New Years.
I don't want to take chances skiing back east, though I am predicting 
a long and cold winter.

	Responses in these matters would be appreciated.

					Rich
 

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