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From: sievert@wlonex.iipo.gtegsc.com (Glen Sievertson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Free Siberian Husky
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:58:33 GMT
Reply-To: sievert@wlonex.iipo.gtegsc.com (Glen Sievertson)
Distribution: ca
Organization: GTE Government Systems

Purebred Siberian Husky - female - 4 years old -
grey shades - light blue eyes - wonderful personality -
free to GOOD home.

call (805) 648-4444
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From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: how bad is chocolate for dogs?
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:12:52 GMT

In article <Bu9rBK.37C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>>	Hi - somewhere (here, months ago?) I heard something about
>>chocolate being bad for dogs - that some amount greater
>>than a lick off a popsicle stick was bad for them.  Is it something
>>about milk content?  How much is too much, and how bad is it?
>*----
>Chocolate contains theobromide, which is toxic to dogs.  How much

I was in Switzerland briefly on business a year ago, and a friend had
asked me to pick up some Swiss chocolate for her.  I picked up four of
the checkbook-sized bars (are they 6 ozs.?) but I was in the Geneva
airport gift shop, and could only find artificially sweetened ones.
Well, I thought it was better than not bringing anything back.

I got back to Los Angeles and the next day left for work, leaving the
four bars on the dining room table.  I came back home to find the
dining room a sea of chocolate and my two formerly white Bichons covered
in the brown gooey stuff.  I can't ever be sure what really happened,
but they apparently made a record-setting floor-to-table jump to get
the stuff, ate through the wrappers, and then vomited repeatedly.  I
eventually had to cut a lot of their coats off, for the chocolate had
dried and matted the hair.  They were not at all sheepish about having
done it--though I scolded them--maybe they sensed I was very happy
they were still alive.  I didn't even call the vet, because they
seemed none the worse for it, except cosmetically.  Maybe the fact
that the bars were artificially helped.

Regards--
--Rob
-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Beverly Taylor <BTAYLOR@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject: Pet Lover/Humane Society NEEDS INFO
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 14:39:00 GMT

I am seeking any information on books, organizations, foundations, etc.
to seek funding to keep our animal shelter in operation.  I have
subscribed to the AR-TALK list but would appreciate any information you
can pass my way.  Thank you in-advance for your help.

Bev Taylor
Chico, California
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: angela@brahms.udel.edu (Angela Lakwete)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Corn Chip Odor
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:07:31 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

My late dog's paw often smelled like peanuts.  I never thought
that it "meant" anything!
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: Entry level hunting tests?
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:31:07 GMT

    Greetings,

    I have a 2yo lab that I have trained for the purpose of hunting(waterfowl,
    upland).Since this is my first time training a dog, i cannot seem to get
    any farther without help.I would like to find some entry level hunting
    tests,something that can be an advatage to me and my dog,not just show
    me what a profesional can do.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ldawes@news.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Subject: Hip Dyplasia
Reply-To: ldawes@news.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - Univ. of Alabama in Huntsville
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:23:19 GMT

Hi,

I own a Siberian Husky, and I have just recently learned that
they can suffer from Hip Dyplasia (I have absolutely no idea how
you spell it). I was wondering, if the dog has a tendency
towards it, when do the symptoms appear.  My dog is 3 yrs old.

How much does an xray normaly cost?

Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Person in flux)
Subject: Flat-coated retriever info wanted
Reply-To: kls4344@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:51:16 GMT

Gentle netters:

	Wouldn't you know it; just as soon as the thread on flat-coated
retrievers unravels into extinction, I want the information.  I did follow the
discussion, but didn't save anything and would like to show a couple of friends
who are looking into the breed.  Would whomever posted the descriptions and
list of breeders be so kind as to mail me?  These friends claim that there are
only 2 breeders in the United States; I find that hard to believe.

Awaiting edification,
Katie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Re: Hair over eyes
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:50:42 GMT

From article <1992Sep9.164257.8702@u.washington.edu>, by martin@biostat.washington.edu (Don Martin):
> Julie Hill writes:
> 
>>The AKC Obedience Rule Book states:
>>
>>  Any dog whose hair over its eyes interferes with its vision, may have the
>>hair over its eyes tied back with either a neutral colored rubber band or a
>>small plain barrette.  Maltese, Poodles, Shih Tzu and Yorkshire Terriers, may
>>be shown with their hair tied back as they are normally shown in the breed
>>ring. (Chapter 1, Section 16)
>>
>>Julie
>>
> Yes, this is accurate. The OES is not shown in the breed ring
> with its hair tied up so this exception does not count.
> The "foriegn objects in the coat precludes tieing up the hair.
> 
In this month's Gazette, there's an article about the OES National.  Correct 
me if I'm wrong, but the HIT dog is shown with its hair tied back!  I have
friends who show OES in obedience (they took second in Nov. B this weekend 
with a 194.5), and they always show their dogs with the hair tied back.
> 
> I have debated trying to make the point by spinning some
> of the dogs brushings into yarn and using it to hold the
> hair back. Is wool from the dogs coat a foriegn substance?
> 
> Don Martin
> Widdershins Old English Sheepdogs
> 
-- 
   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
			        | prominent positions in the community.
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Be Careful Feeding Carrots
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:15:30 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

So.  Is there a Heimlich maneuver for dogs?  (And -- here comes a plug
of the promotional rather than the windpipe variety --  have you taken 
a CPR class, in which they teach the human variety?  Should, ya know.)

Joe "And then sign up for First Aid" Chew
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson)
Subject: Show Brags
Originator: bradav@bradav
Keywords: Tibetan Mastiff Puppy of the Year
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:50:46 GMT

I just got my puppy back from the American Rare Breed Association Puppy of
the Year show in Baltimore.

Denali's Dazzeling in Black won Tibetan Mastiff Puppy of the Year and
finished tied for 4th place of all the breeds there.  A Greater Swiss Mountain
Dog took "Puppy of the Year" against all breeds.

Still not bad to have the Puppy of the Year for Tibetan Mastiffs.

Looks like we might be going to Chicago for the October ARBA show.

Brad Davidson

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From: hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht)
Subject: Breeding dogs was Re: pit bull?
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:27:15 GMT

>>|> has had a positive effect on these breeds.  To compete in the ring,
>>|> a Staffie must get into the ring with other dogs (Staffs of the same
>>|> sex in the breed ring, other terriers in the group ring) and show
>>|> no signs of aggression.  He must allow a stranger (the judge) to touch
>>|> his testicles without showing any aggression.  He must spend lots of
>>|> time on the crowded show floor with grownups, kids, and all kinds of dogs
>>|> brushing by him.  If a dog cannot do this, he cannot be shown and therefore
>>|> cannot win.  If he cannot win, he cannot breed.
>>|>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>Not to be a smart-a** but,
>>It'd be a great world if this were really the case.

So is it necessary to have a dog who's won shows in order to breed him?
I'm thinking about breeding my puppy when he's old enough but have no
plans on showing him.  He has all his papers and comes from championship
parents.  But rather than having him fixed, we thought we'd stud him and
which should make him happy :-) and we'll make a little money which will
make us happy.  Is this a pipe dream?  If not, how do we go about doing
this when he's old enough (around 2 years we figure.)?




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From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Subject: Re: Shutterbugs
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:06:08 GMT

In article <92254.124728NAT@psuvm.psu.edu> patty mulkeen <NAT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>     I have a question for all the folks who take lots of pictures
>of their dogs.  How do you get the dog to look happy for the
>camera?  When I take pictures of my lab/golden mix, he gets a very
>sad look on his face and his tail  droops as soon as I look through
>the camera.  It's pretty pitiful, certainly not what I want to capture
>on film!  Any hints would be appreciated (posted or e-mailed, I check
>this newsgroup pretty frequently).  Thanks!
>                                                   Patty Mulkeen
>                                                   nat@psuvm.psu.edu
>
>

Our old mutt (rip) HATED having her picture taken.  She would get the same
hang-dog expression you mention any time I made her sit for a picture.

(One of my favorite pictures is of three dogs.  An incredibly stupid collie,
who LOVES having his picture taken, looking attentive but stupid [sorry,
collie people!], Spot, looking like she wishes she were anywhere else,
and my Corgi, just turning to bark at Spot to say "Mom told you to smile!!")

My best pictures of Spot were taken when I'd talk to her.  She was very
reliable on stays, so I'd position her, tell her to stay, and then when
the camera was focused I'd start asking her if she wanted to eat, or play,
or go for a walk.....

I got some very nice pictures of her this way.  Alert and smiling.

Does your dog love tennis balls?  You might try having someone right out
of the picture toss one up and down....  He wouldn't be looking at the
camera, but he might look alert and happy.

Spot was hard to photograph anyway, because she was black (and tan).  Getting
the exposure right could be tricky.  And if her ears or tail were against a
"mixed" background (tree branches, maybe), they'd just disappear.  (This is
probably the worst problem you'll have with your black GSD, Kay!)  My Corgi
(red and white) is much easier to photograph, attitude aside.

My best posed pictures of Spot were taken against the house.  It was
shady.  The foundation of the house was painted red, and the house itself
was medium gray.  So I had a black dog against a medium value (not too light,
not too dark) plain background.

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From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: Re: GSD size, was Re: Diamond Dog Food
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:31:28 GMT

kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) writes:

>Just happen to have a copy handy. Height for dogs is 24 to 26, 22 to 24
>for bitches. They do not have a weight listed in the Std. however, IMHO
>a dog with the correct size could not handle the weight that was
>mentioned. I would think the normal range would be 60 to 75 lbs max.
>GSD are a large breed, not giant like a Mastiff or Newf.
>Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us

So, does anyone have any experience with the "huge boned" GSD's
advertised in the back of dog magazines?  I remember seeing several
that claimed 140 lb. weights.

I assume that these would never be for show, but I just want one as
a pet.

--kyler
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: Those pesky anal sacks
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:09:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.003959.728@news.unomaha.edu> massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey) writes:
>Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I TRIED TO DO IT MYSELF...no
>luck I never get anything out...and I KNOW they are full because I
>know his signs.  Of course, I've never tried digital expression with
>a glove like the vet does it...only exterior expression by placing
>the fingers at 10 and 2 and pressing in and up..no luck.
>Maybe I'll try the surgical gloves technique...the $10/2week is
>getting ridiculous...
>Dana

I always use a glove and KY Jelly.  I never tried exterior expression.  Ask
your veterinarian to show you how to do it.  It is quite simple.

-- 
============================================================
Stephen R. Lee                 | 
OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Black GSDs (Defending Myself AGAIN!)
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:41:27 GMT

In article <BuDFn7.KoC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
    schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf) writes:
 
>Okay, folks...I've  had enough folks who are all too happy to believe these
>folks are bad breeders just because they merely mentioned using him as
>stud and he isn't "show quality".  I don't know exactly what his
>disqualification
>as far as "show quality" is, perhaps, merely because he is going to be a
>BIG
>dog (they do have height requirements, no?) or maybe he's a little
>cowhocked
>(as some VERY nice person pointed out earlier) or something like that.
>We've
>checked them out, they do not just breed dogs because of color. In fact,
>they
>don't even have a pure black dog on the premises..the sire was black
>with
>silver socks. The dam was black and tan, which is what most of the other
>dogs
>were.  Most of their dogs are shipped off to organizations similar to
>Seeing Eye, Hearing Ear, the Police, etc. They breed for tempermant and
>intelligence. Some of the dogs had even been taught sign language
>(probably
>for Hearing Ear sorts), another had just become a working drug sniffer.
>The parents are BOTH OFA certified, his hips are guarenteed, his health
>is
>guarenteed. They had probably around 12 dogs there and they take them
>to the obedience ring. I am VERY confident that I am getting a good dog
>and
>just because they mention to me that a black stud is a possibility
>doesn't mean
>that's what they do!!!
>
>Come on folks...I think some of you are just all too happy to jump on the
>"Bad Breeder" bandwagon here....
>
>Can't folks overlook SMALL conformation defects and still breed good dogs
>for OTHER things besides the conformation ring???
 
 
Of course we (I) can.  BUT, you didn't mention these other qualties in
you other post, so we had to make an assumption (and most dogs aren't
bred for that good stuff.....).  From what you describe NOW, it sounds
like he'ld make a fine companion.
 
 
>So just because MY dog isn't perfect for the conformation ring doesn't mean
>that he isn't good in OTHER ways... and above all he's going to make me
>one hell of a good friend. WHICH IS ALL I CARE ABOUT!!!!
 
Then get him, and have him neutered (you said you were going to do
that anyway).
 
PS.  The other posts about the black coat color were very good, and I
     had nothing to add to them.
 
      ----------------------------------------------
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From: vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Hip Dyplasia
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:33:10 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department

In article <1992Sep11.164430.9142@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> 
janicki@tuxedo.enet.dec.com writes:

>|>Wayne: Dennis, do you know the answer to the other question?  When do 
>|>       symptoms appear?  Also, after these x-rays, what can be done if
>|>       there is H.D.  I mean, if you can't do much, what good are x-rays?
>|>

>Dogs which are not showing any symptoms but show minor arthritic changes on
>the xray will usually not need any treatment. These dogs should get
>regular exercise and as they age may need aspirin now and then. These
>borderline/mild cases are not candidates for breeding. These dogs generally
>are active companions whose lifestyle is not impaired.

My $.02 worth here.  My dog has very mild HD symptoms.  I first noticed
a problem one chilly autumn night when we were camping out and the dog
started favoring his back end.  We went to the vet who suggested that
maybe in the excitement of being in the woods the dog had twisted a 
muscle or sprained an ankle or some equivalent thereof.  But he also 
mentioned that it was possible he could have a slipped disc.  We gave him
aspirin for a few days and the symptoms seemed to go away.
	A couple of weeks later (again on a chilly day) the dog seemed to
be in pain again.  This is when I decided to have the x-ray.  I did it
because I needed to know if there was something seriously wrong with him
that we needed to see to, or of it was going to be an ongoing thing we
would have to live with.  The x-ray showed that there is some slight
deformation in the hip and the vet said the dog would probably display 
discomfort when the weather told colder than he was used to or after
unusual amounts of exercise.  This has proven to be the case.  When he
does seem to be hurting, I give him aspirin and keep him warm and quiet
for a few days, it it gets better I don't worry, if it doesn't we can
take him back to the vet.  
	My point is that without the x-ray, every time he had one of these 
spells, I would worry about what it might be.
--
	Carlin Sappenfield - vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu
From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Pig Ears, Choo-Hooves, or Rawhide
Date: 11 SEP 92 10:10:39 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, walls@inland.com wrote:
>Hello out there in network land. I have another question for all of you.
>What are your thoughts and opinions on giving your dog pig ears, choo-hooves,
>or rawhide ad treats?? I realize pig ears are more expensive than choo-hooves.
>Choo-hooves are less expensive than rawhide, depending on what size you get.
>Are any of these treats high in calories?(I have an overweight dach/terr.mix)
>Please let me know what treats you give your dogs and what you would recommend.
>Thanks Again!! 
>Bonnie 

PERSONALLY I prefer the 'real' calf bones.  the are pretty cheap even at 
outrageous pet stores and are usually hollow thru the middle.  You can 
stuff all sorts of treats inside to keep the dog occupied.  As for
CHOO HOOVES-  I got one for my dog for x-mas and a few days later thought
I smelled something bad-I realized it was the damn choo hoof. it smelled 
like a cow or deer or something with doggie slober to boot.  It is now an
out side only treat and I don't buy them any more.  i have no opinion
on pig ears-never saw em
Beverly
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: toolan@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Help on choosing a family dog
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:31:57 GMT

In article <23280@sybase.sybase.com>, ellie@slumber.sybase.com (Ellen Lewis) 
writes:
> Since I've been taking our puppy to the local dog-park almost everyday,
> I've seen more greyhounds lately. I use to considere them, well, 
> basically funny-looking. But seeing them in the park, I've come to
> admire them more. Every so often one will shoot across the park at
> top speed with several other delighted dogs vainly trailing behind
> it. It's a pretty joyous scene. Reading Sharon Toolan's description
> of adopted racing greyhounds--they sound wonderful. The question that
> comes to my mind though, is how much of that exercise do they need?
> Our australian shepherd puppy loves to run, but she's happy with
> lots (and lots) of little sprints, and if she can't get those, even a
> good wrasslin' session with another puppy will satisfy her. But it
> seems like a greyhound must *need* to stretch those legs pretty 
> frequently?


	I'll admit, there's something almost magical about watching Greyhounds
run free--they are as graceful and agile as deer.  But once they're off the
track and they don't HAVE to run, it's amazing how laid back they are.  My two
girls love to take walks, which we take daily, if time and weather permits.
None of us like the cold and the rain, so when that time comes you can almost
read their minds--it's go out in the yard, and HOW FAST CAN I GET DONE SO I CAN
COME BACK IN?!!!  We do, on occasion, take the dogs to the local high school, 
which has a fenced track, and turn them loose.  Surprisingly enough, they will
only run for a few minutes; the rest of the time is spent nosing around.

	I know of quite a few people who take their Greyhounds running with
them; if the dog is given time to work up to the distance desired, the dog
will trot along for miles with you.  However, Greyhounds do NOT require this
kind of exercise.  

	We are constantly amazed by their grace and beauty as they run just for
the sheer heck of it in our yard.  And don't think you need a big yard, folks,
because you don't.  We just have your average suburban yard--it's maybe 45'
by 50'.  It gets especially interesting when the neighboring Lab is out; all
three will be dashing up and down the fence with considerable "Nyah, nyah, you
can't catch me!" going on.  It's a riot to watch, but it doesn't last long.

	In the same vein, I just heard today from an email friend who expects
to be getting his new Greyhound on Saturday (Hi, Stanton!)  When he asked
why the dog was retiring, he was told that she was too laid back!  Please
don't think Greyhounds need tons of exercise; they really don't.  What they
need more than anything else is a loving home.

			*	*	*	*	*
					*
	Sharon Toolan			*	My opinions are mine alone;
	toolan@stsci.edu		*	no one else would want them.
					*
			*	*	*	*	*

			Make a fast friend--adopt a Greyhound!
From: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Black GSDs
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Sep11.170503.26589@unislc.uucp>, gsd@unislc.uucp (Greg Dodd) writes:

  (Interesting information about GSDs deleted)

  Would you please explain what a Register of Merit (ROM) is and how it is
  achieved. And Also, would you please explain what a Grand Victor is and
  how it is achieved.  I have not seen these titles mentioned before.
     Thanks,
       Sue Painter