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From: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS: Q & A (Read this for more info!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:20:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct15.132012.16414
Reply-To: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe) writes:
> u2102800@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
> The board supports SB emulation through a TSR.  This TSR does quite a lot to
> offer complete compatability with MOST software.  There are a few things that
... 
> Once you do have the music playing, you may notice that is sounds a little
> different than the soundblaster.  It seems to sound more lifelike, not like
> some handheld videogame from years past.  Wolfenstein 3D is my favorite
> example.  The difference in sound is incredible.  The digitized samples sound
> alot "cleaner", and the background music has depth to it.

Questions... does this TSR run in a regular OS/2 DOS box?  What about
a VDM (i.e. of real MS-DOS 5.0)?  Does the Windows 3.1 driver work
with Windows MM programs (i.e. the .wav player and recorder) under
the OS/2 2.1 (the one with the GRE-32 and Windoze 3.1) beta?
What is Gravis' position on native OS/2 (i.e. MMPM/2) drivers?
If they say "we're working on NT drivers right now and we'll eventually
get around to OS/2 drivers" I'll forget about them and very reluctantly
shell out $190 for a PAS-16.
(MMPM/2 and the 2.1 beta are only $15, btw, if you get them
on the Developers' CD.  The 2.1 beta is actually free by itself!)

Ideally, I'd like to run games like Wolf3D and record and play back
sounds (using Winos231 until MMPM drivers are released)... have
you gotten this to work well, or just under DOS?

> BTW - When sending in your registration cards, please ask for OS/2 support.
> Mickeysoft's Windog just doesn't cut it...
> 
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You sound like the right person to ask on this!

JMC
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From: schles@panini.cs.jhu.edu (COMP NERDS R US)
Subject: please resend reply
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:54:01 GMT

Hi someone who read my request for a dos player for voc sent me the name of
a program on the simtel archive.  Could you resend a message to me with the
name, as I just lost it.

Thanks in advance - Phil

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From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (COMP NERDS R US)
Subject: Re: Piano/keyboard teaching
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:58:09 GMT

In article <317.259.uupcb@nitelog.com> michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) writes:
>On 10-08-92, JOHN FLOWERS wrote to ALL:
>
>JF> I am looking for piano teaching software. I have a PC, a MIDI board
>JF> (PAS 16) and a keyboard(yamaha YPR-9). Can someone point me in the
>JF> right direction? Shareware preferred, commerical would be OK.
>
>Software Toolworks was reportedly working on a version of the software
>for the Miracle Piano Teaching System which would work with any MIDI
>keyboard and a sound card.  You might want to give them a call to check
>it out.  I have their keyboard and have been hoping to upgrade eventually.
>
>Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)
> * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * James Brown: I've fallen and I can't get down!
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Folks - I used to work for Egghead Discount Software.  We DELIBERATLEY
discouraged customers from buying it for a few reasons, even though we sold it:

1)  IT'S EXPENSIVE (approx. $400)
2)  Unless you're gonna use it everyday for AT LEAST an hour every week for
	more than a year (this includes weekends and holidays), you'll never
	achieve the final result (Handel's Water Music).  Also, no machine can
	and will ever replace a human when it comes to teaching anything


Just a few words to the wise.  It may not be what it's cut out to be. - Phil

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From: krw1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Kevin Weiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound vs Other Sound Boards
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:20:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct13.011453.23879@news.acns.nwu.edu>, davecole@casbah.acns.nwu.
edu (David Cole) writes:

>Don't forget the 2 Roland cards.  They don't record, but they are also good
>sample players.  I am curious how the Roland SCC-1 compares to the TB card.
...
>world.  With the Multisound, you gain quality (how much over the Roland???);
>pay more, but definitely lose compatibility with much software.  These are

If you don't need wave audio capability (digital sample recording/playback),
the SCC-1 is hard to beat in its price range.  Head-to-head, some will prefer
the Roland to the Proteus-based MultiSound - mostly because of the on-board
signal processing of the SCC (adding reverb, for example).  Although the
Proteus samples are much superior, they are very dry, and since the MS is
intended for professional use, the assumption is that you'll be using some
sort of outboard signal processor.  The MultiSound should be adding those
capabilities as a software upgrade for its DSP module, however.  (The DSP on
the MS is a great hedge against obsolescence, and software upgrades will be
free.)   The MS is not MPU compatible, so its MIDI interface is now only
usable under Windows, as is its wave capability (with the exception of some
simple DOS sample record/playback utilites bundled with it).  A developer's
kit for DOS is due to be released shortly.
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From: nestlero@khan.usc.edu (Mikeee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: ? for GUS owners
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:28:08 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Keywords: GUS


	Got another question for GUS owners. I've read, here and there, that the GUS version
of Chuck Yeager is included with the board. I'm already on the EA backorder list, so it's not
gonna keep me from getting the board, but what should I expect? Is this a rumor, or fact? 
Any actual owners out there?


							Mikeeeeeeeeeeee
		

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From: brianrh@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Brian R Hutchison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS16 16bit Recording & DMA's
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:49:12 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)

The PAS16 manual says to set the DMA channel to 5-7 in because these are the
only 16 bit channels. I get memory parity errors with these. Are the DMA
channels independent of the IRQ's so I could try a different combo?

I presently have IRQ and DMA set to 3 and it sure seems to record 16bit, 44KHz,
stereo fine. Is the width of each DMA channel dependent on the motherboard such
that my DMA 3 is 16 bits wide? I have a 486-33C with a Diamond Stealth VRAM
and Ultrastor 15C cache controller so I don't have many IRQ's and DMA's left
to play with. I've already had to disable the IRQ2 on the Stealth card with no
apparent problem yet.

Whats a good reference that explains this? I haven't found anything that goes
into enough detail.

Also when I try to run WinMOD v0.02b(?) I get a 'not enough memory' message. I
have 4MB with a 12MB swap file. What gives? I'd like to try it since it's 
window based even though I like the graphics with TBPro.
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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:09:58 GMT

In article <2691.22.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter)  writes:
>I do believe that the PAS 16 does perfect SB and ADLIB emulations for
>every game that I have played. and It does 16 bit 44.1K stereo Rec/play
>already when you buy the software, I don't know what the fuss about the
>GUS is, maybe the 32 voices in mono.  but since I do digitize and make
>wav files, I like to get the best quality out of the sound card.
>                                  

If a wavetable card with 32 mono or 16 panning stereo voices is nothing 
to fuss over (compared to a PAS-16), then I don't know what is.  Do you
have any idea of what wavetable synthesis/sample playback with mixing
and resampling in hardware is all about?

Phat.
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 and Ultrasound - Need to hear from you
Date: 9 Oct 1992 23:04:38 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
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Hello all. I just got off the phone with Gravis asking them if there
will be an OS/2 driver for the Ultrasound. They said that they have
considered it but unless the demand is there, there is no plans for an
OS/2 driver at the present time. So to all OS/2 owners out there
let them know that we want an OS/2 driver for the Ultrasound. Let them
know that OS/2 is real and they shouldn't even have to consider whether to
support it or not. :) Their phone number is (604) 431-5020.
Thanks.

Thomas.

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From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Subject: Re: GUS more ?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:32:41 GMT

gaia@carson.u.washington.edu (I/We are Gaia) writes:

>I am thinking of getting a gravis board, but have some questions.
>Since I will be using this board for Windows 3.1, and games mostly I have
>some questions about sb emulation.  I heard that jet fighter ii is not
>compatible, and have heard that it is, which one is it?? Also, I have another
>game called Shuttle.  Any news on if it will work with it??  I also plan to
>get Falcon 3.0 one of these days, and I don't have an extremely fast machine
>386-25dx.  Is this fast enough for the sb-tsr??  But I like the idea of Star
>Control II being made with GUS support, and also how is the win 3.1 support
>from what I have read, it isn't to bad, but I dunno.  Maybe I should just get 
>an SB-pro, or a PAS-16..  Please let me know..  My birthday's this Sat. :)

Hope this is not too late for your birthday. ;) I also have a 386dx-25 and
the sb-emulation works like a charm for most of the games I've tried except
for Wing Commander 2. As for Jet Fighter 2, the manual says that it is not 
supported, and I'm inclined to agree. I tried it with all the possible 
settings and it just hung on me every single time. 
Tried out Falcon 3 and it runs just as fast as my old SB, except for the
intro sequence where it stops in mid-flight while the digitised audio
played. There was no such delay in the game itself though...

As for Windows, the support is just excellent. Try running WinMOD and 
you'll see what I mean. Without the general midi patches from Gravis (I'm
still waiting for mine) the media player does sound a bit weird when 
playing .mid files in Windows. But this isn't a problem once you send in the
reg. card. 

BTW, happy birthday. :)


>gaia@carson.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mishizak@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Maki Ishizaki)
Subject: .MID files anyone? (was Re: Turtle Beach Multisound vs Other Sound Boards)
Keywords: MID, MIDI, MT-32, LAPC-1, GM, general MIDI, format0, format1, etc.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:21:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.011453.23879@news.acns.nwu.edu> davecole@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Cole) writes:
>In article <56492@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> davepat@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Dave Patterson) writes:
>>BESIDES PRICE,  It seems that the Turtle Beach card is the best card
>
> [stuff deleted]
>
>The main reason for getting some other card is just compatibility: almost all
>have some degree of adlib/soundblaster compatibility, which means they work
>with a ton of games and other software.  The Roland LAPC-1 is also widely
>supported, and there are many MIDI files sequenced for it on BBSs around the
>world.  With the Multisound, you gain quality (how much over the Roland???);
>pay more, but definitely lose compatibility with much software.  These are
>familiar tradeoffs; different folks will place different value on these
>factors, and an actual choice of a card depends in part on your guess as to
>what will happen in the future -- specifically on whether the
>Multisound/Proteus will gain support.  (My guess is it will....)
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave Cole

Does anyone know any FTP sites that have .MID files or format0/1 files
out there? I sure see .MODs and sound files but had no luck in search 
of these MIDI files. Any info would be appreciated.

Please post or e-mail.

P.S. The patches that came with the GUS sound great but I can't wait 
till they release those GUS patches that will fill in the blanks that 
they've left open.


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From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor)
Subject: Re: New Ensoniq Soundcard soon?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:53:33 GMT

In article <AeopB4q00WB6ASnVQA@andrew.cmu.edu> Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Someone mentioned in a message that it might be best to even wait longer
>and not get the Gravis UltraSound.  Someone said that Ensoniq is
>planning on releasing a soundcard that's even more powerful that the
>UltraSound, and it have dual stereo inputs/outputs, 32 voices, 1 meg,
>simultaneous input/output, relatively low cost, made by a real
>synthesizer manufacturer!  Does anyone know ANYTHING about this and
>perhaps can set us all straight on what the deal is?  Should I wait
>again?  Please help!!!

Here's the scoop from Nov. 1992 Keyboard Magazine (page 50):
"Ensoniq's yet-to-be-named, soon-to-be-released sound card ($349)
IBM-AT/compatible 32-voice sound card. 8-, 12-, and 16-bit linear or
compressed mono or stereo playback of wavetables. 8-, 12-, and 16-bit linear
mono and stereo direct-to-hard-disk recording at 11.025, 22.05 and 44.1kHz
sampling rates. 1Mb by 8-bit (compressed) of sample-playback ROM standard,
expandable to 8Mb by 16-bit ROM or DRAM. Simultaneous recording and playback.
Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, and General MIDI compatibility."

The first post here that I had seen about it said that it had 4 digital
audio channels, but I saw no mention of that here. There was also no
mention of joystick or MIDI ports. I've been trying to talk to someone at
Ensoniq, but I have not successfully gotten through to someone who knows
what's going on... I'll keep trying. Ensoniq can be reached at 800-553-5151
or 215-647-3930. I'd like to get a release date out of them, too...
I'll post if I find out anything (and I'd appreciate if everyone else did
the same!)

...Kev


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From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: MS Sound Card vs. Others
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:00:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Oct14.145608.27346@a.cs.okstate.edu> ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes:
>From article <keqlb4200Uh_04QIsW@andrew.cmu.edu>, by Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>:
>> Microsoft's card (Windows Sound System) basically is an 8 bit card with
>> stereo stuff, no joystick port (not sure about MIDI), and taylored to be
>> used similarly to Compaq's business audio (put voice annotations in
>> documents).  I believe SB and Adlib emulations.
>
>I specifically asked somebody in authority about the SB thing, and the
>answer was no gaming, no SB or Adlib.  But I think it is better to wait
>till the card is actually out to say whether it is or not. 

I read that there is no support for MIDI on it. I hope all the owners have it 
have got nice big disks to store their samples on.

Davei
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Where to Get Ad-Lib Programming Info
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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First, I'd like to thank all of you who replied to my request for help with
keyboard interrupt 09H.  I now have a working handler which bypasses the BIOS.

My next area of ignorance is sound programming.  I need information on
programming the Ad-Lib sound synthesizer card.  I don't need specific
information on the SB, PAS, Roland, etc. -- Ad-Lib will be just fine.  It's
not that I consider support for the latest sound cards unimportant; it's just
that the game I'm making is a clone of a classic 8-bit computer game, and
I want to make it exactly like the original -- cheesy synthetic sound and all!

Does anyone know where I can find such information?  Thanks in advance.
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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: 2nd Request:  Info on Gravis Ultrasound (Me Too)
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:48:11 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) posts:

#> I here lots of people talking about the GUS, but even though I asked before,
#> nobody has given me any specs (including price) on it.
#> 
#> As before, any info will be appreciated.
#
#Same here (especially PRICE).


In the material Gravis sent me about the card, it had a list price
of about $199.00. So technically it's still "under $200" (as per one
of their initial claims about the card).

I called around, and none of the local stores are goint to carry it.
Some didn't even know what it was. Disk-Count Software, a 1-800 mail
order house, said they plan to sell it for @$130.00. I think others
have posted here of similar prices via mail order.


My big question is HOW MUCH LONGER DO I HAVE TO WAIT?!?!?!?!



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From: mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig)
Subject: Ultrasound: Bad News from Elec. Arts  ;)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:25:40 GMT

Well, I got off the phone this afternoon with the fine folks at EA,
and my worst fears were confirmed. Shipping of the Ultrasound to
those who ordered will begin "within a few days." Essentially, we
may have our boards as early as next monday, possibly even the
weekend. 

This has some serious repercutions. The most important of which,
how will I ever prepare for those midterms with a wonderful new
soundboard singing loudly in my 'puter. I mean, Wolf3d will have
voices, Windows will have sounds... and Falcon3. I may have to
dust off the old CH Flightstick. Before I know it, I may actually
justify the 24 bucks for OFT and find myself wanting for a 486. 8)

Why oh why should I be tested so.

-mark  
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Internal CD Audio in cable to connect PAS-16 and NEC 84?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:30:26 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

In <1+qzn6d@rpi.edu> moncrg@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Gregory Donald Moncreaff) writes:
>can anyone tell me where such a cable can be obtained?
>
>the nec didn't come with such a cable, and the pas-16 box
>that my local dealer opened for me didn't contain such a 
>cable either...

I believe you can purchase such a cable from MediaVision.  (Mine came in
the MediaVision MultiMedia-16 Upgrade kit.)

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From: morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: thread for GUS orders
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:24:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: dl5000.MORGAN.92Oct9112451
Distribution: all
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College


I figured I'd start this thread to let people know where they can buy
GUS.  If you've bought one somewhere that others can buy it, reply to
this thread and include any previous ordering info.  I just ordered
mine (yesterday) from Telemart.

Company:  Telemart
Phone:  (800)392-4429
Price:  $132 after shipping etc.
EXPECTED ship date:  October 15
Shipping method:  UPS overnight or something like that
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