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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #204
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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 25 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 204

Today's Topics:

      [*] cindy.clock.v1.3.sit.hqx
      [*] TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92
      [*] Zfinch 1.3
      Accelerating an SE
      Alternate Universe Navigator
      Apple IIe and Mac (S)ummary
      At Ease Prices (Q)
      ATR disabling tip (A)
      Balloon Help & ResEdit (Q)
      Changing pixel depth (A)
      CTB for HyperCard
      Disk Protection Software
      Downloading Not the Waltons?  (A)
      Downloading Not the Waltons?  (C)
      Errors (C)
      F-line Instruction Crashes
      Faxmodems
      GIFs of Pro Football teams (Q)
      IIsi Sound Problem (R)
      ImageWriter Print Spooling
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #203
      Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?
      LaserWriter IIg zones...
      mac.archive.umich.edu (Q)
      MacTools 2.0 Backup
      ModVoicer comments...
      norton/mactools (R)
      PB100 & Price Club (C)
      persian writing
      Photoshop: in & out
      Printing Text From HyperCard (Q)
      Problems downloading Not the Waltons, and related issues
      Quadra Crashes Continued
      Radius PIVOT and MacDraw Pro and Kermit .99
      RAM expansion on the Quadra 950
      SBFix Part II
      Suspected DeltaGraph Pro Bug
      Tech support mailing list
      TIFF<->RIFF without ColorStudio: How?
      Time Stamp Versions Symantec/Norton) (C)
      usefulness of math coprocessor?
      Uses for Labels
      VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (Q)
      Were can I find RevRdist?
      Why is a 105Mb not a 105 Mb? (A)
      WinWord -> MacWord -> PageMaker Bug
      Zoom V.32bis ARA script

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:49:49 EDT
From: J Eric Bush <jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: [*] cindy.clock.v1.3.sit.hqx

This is a little desktop clock that displays pictures of super
models and the current date and time.  The pictures are mostly
faces.  This is a system 7 program.  Cindy Crawford, Paulina,
Kathy Ireland, Rachel Hunter and more are included.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/cindy-clock-13.hqx; 692K]

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 22:28:53 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92

TidBITS#139/24-Aug-92

 A varied catch this issue, starting with quick notes about Morph,
   Excel 4.0, and European Macintosh distribution, and continuing
   with an interesting article on gray market mail order vendors.
   We have a few more notes from Macworld about neat new products
   from Voyager and new items from Casady & Greene, and an article
   on how IBM may be close on the heels of QuickTime. Finally, the
   VRAM conundrum!

Topics:
    MailBITS/24-Aug-92
    Mail Order Macs
    Watch Out, QuickTime
    VRAM Problems
    More Macworld
    Reviews/24-Aug-92

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-139.etx; 27K]

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 20:30:23 -0400
From: Andrew.S.Wright@williams.edu
Subject: [*] Zfinch 1.3

This is a stuffed and binhexed HyperCard stack originally designed to keep
detailed records of several hundred birds used in biological research,
their surgical histories and even multiple recordings of each bird's songs,
with sonograms (FFTs pasted from SoundEdit tm).  The stack and the scripts
therein may be easily converted to other purposes.

There are several good scripts that may be of interest to other
scriptwriters, namely customized searches of multiple stacks with multiple
search criteria, automatic updating of information present of several
different cards,  and some decent sound cut and paste management.

This is shareware/mailware.  Individual users please send me a postcard or
e-mail telling me what use you made of the stack.  Coporate or University
labs should contact me for a (cheap) site liscense.  Copyright 1992 by
Andrew Wright,
XCMDs copywright 1988 by Farralon.

Andrew Wright
93asw@williams.edu

 --------------cut here--------------

[Archived as /info-mac/card/zfinch.hqx; 58K]

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:57 EST
From: Carlo Fusco <G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA>
Subject: Accelerating an SE

Hello,

A few digests ago I inquired about accelerating an old SE.  The replys have
been good.  I have given up on my first choice, the Railgun, due to the
numberous warnings against it.  I am now just about ready to order the
Newlife accelerator.  However, I have a few more questions about it.

1) In MacWorld July 1991 there is an artical about upgrading old macs.
That artical states: "The Newlife 25 and 33 can't be installed on older SE's
because the extra video connector on these accelerators doesn't fit into the
SE's case."  I phoned Newlife and they told me that the video card is extra.
I don't want the video card, therefore, will the accelerator fit in my
pre-FDHD SE?  (BTW, the Newlife 25 was highly recomended.)
2) I have been told that this accelerator will distort the sound output of
SE.  Is this true and is a software solution available?

I am in the process of compiling the responses to my first queary and will
send them to the info-mac shortly.  If anyone has anymore comments about
accelerators for the SE, please send them to me.

Thanks
Carlo Fusco
g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:15:42 CDT
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <LZCB%UTDALLAS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Alternate Universe Navigator

   Recently, through what I imagine private communication of a preprint, I was
led to understand something most surprising about space warps ala star trek.
In correct Physics parlance, rather than science fiction, they are called
spacelike wormholes, because gravity always warps space, but these are
special.
The paper illustrates infinite forces preventing the mouths of a wormhole
>From going from being spacelike separated to timelike separated.
It is hard to make timelike wormholes from spacelike ones.
  These spacelike wormholes, one sort of which my simulation studied, are thus
evidently not equivalent to time machines. That is what I learned from the
preprint. The author of that preprint has my full support in his astonishing
conclusion---renewed energy should be spent on studying the edges of Physics
involved in building space wormhole throats.
   A Historical Note:
   Since 1987, when Kip Thorne and his consortium stated that it would be easy
to build a timelike wormhole from a spacelike one (ie. build a time machine),
I have studied time assymetry to attempt to grasp fine features of the alleged
impossibility of the space wormhole. An enormous amount of the efforts of the
consortium has been to examine what can be salvaged of sensibility in a uni-
verse with time wormholes. You had to be willing to defend the logic of a time
machine to discuss space wormholes.
   Now, due to my illumination by this preprint, I find that the possibility
of the existance of time and space wormholes are distinct issues.
   I had promised the archives to develope a time machine simulation and
got stuck in how to formulate the mathematics. I have some improved clarity on
what "toy model" to simulate now. I may join Object Oriented Pascal with
my Modula II utilities that I have already made through my experiment with
linking different languages. My plan is to simulate a time machine that
doesn't
"have to be made", a time wormhole inflated from vacuum fluctuations. From
the preprint's toy model,it seems that wormhole mouths,once timelike
separated,
should want to collapse toward each other. Will my toy model simulation have
inflation beat that tendency or will they get thrown into the space time
blur at the Planck scale (where they won't count classically and sort of hide
themselves under the uncertainty principle, I believe)?
   That's the plan with the toy model. Like all "homework", I probably will
find something else surprising.
   I am sorry that my time machine simulation this summer for you all.
I didn't have a clear notion, at the time, what the "geometrodynamic" point
traced by the curves in time would be, when there was no one time, you see!
When you have instantaneous hyperspace jumps back in time, whose time do
you use? Special relativity already introduced us to the relativity of
simultaneity, but this was even tougher nut to crack.
   Now, I conjecture that the one time is a branch cut of time and know what
that "point" would be.
   Stay tuned to infomac to see whether a hacker can handle hyperspace in the
continuing adventures of hyperspace hacker.

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:49:01 EDT
From: Doug Larrick (HLO2-3/N2; DTN 225-6017)  25-Aug-1992 0948
<larrick@cadsys.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Apple IIe and Mac (S)ummary

Thanks to all who responded to my question about migrating from an
Apple IIe to a Mac.  The general consensus was that my dad should
get an LC II with the Apple IIe card, but for a variety of reasons
(not a powerful enough Mac; he already has an Apple IIe, why does
he want another), that's not practical.  So I'm going to advise
him to use a serial cable to transfer files (cheapest solution),
and later buy a 3.5" disk drive if the serial transfer gets too
cumbersome.

I'm also going to advise him to get ClarisWorks to work with his
AppleWorks files.  He understands he'll have to do a little re-work,
especially to the speadsheet files.  Microsoft Works would also read
the AppleWorks files, but according to the responses I got,
ClarisWorks is a better package.

Three BASICs were mentioned: Microsoft QuickBASIC is the old standby,
but I have some concerns with future support.  True BASIC is a modern
language with BASIC as its roots, much like what my dad currently uses
on the Apple (Micol BASIC).  ZBasic was mentioned, but only in name.
My dad's first assignment will be to research this subject more closely,
although I would lean toward True BASIC for him.  I will also give him
my old (3.0?) version of Think Pascal (which I abandoned when I learned
C) to upgrade or use as he sees fit.

Thanks again for the responses.  Wish me luck explaining Apple current
(and near-future) Mac lineup to my dad!

-Doug Larrick
Disclaimer: I speak not for DEC

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:03:12 +0100
From: Andrea Sella <ucca245@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: At Ease Prices (Q)

The local Mac "dealership" don't seem to know anything about AtEase.
Can anyone tell me how much it is in pounds?

Come to think about it, how about dollars. Even academics can become
dab hands at arbitrage!

Andrea Sella
UCL Chemistry
aka ucca245@ucl.ac.uk

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 10:53 N
From: BOONE%RECHT.RUG.AC.BE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: ATR disabling tip (A)

The tip about ATR can be found in MacUser May 1992 on page 236:
ATR checks a program's resource fork to see if it has an ATR resource
with ID -1 containing a single zero byte (00).
If it finds such a resource, it disables itself for that program.
Use ResEdit to install such a resource in an application.
You can find an ATR resource in Adobe Illustrator, you can copy it
>From there and paste it into your applications of DA's.

Dimitri Boone
boone@recht.rug.ac.be
Belgium / Europe

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Date: Tue,25 Aug 92 13:00:59 BST
From: D.Edmonson@vme.glasgow.ac.uk
Subject: Balloon Help & ResEdit (Q)

Does anyone know of any templates that can be used with ResEdit for
adding Balloon help to menus (hmnu) and dialogs (hdlg) of an application?

Thanks
Vic Moss (Institute of Physiology, University of Glasgow) V.A.Moss@gla.ac.uk

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:59:47 -0700
From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Changing pixel depth (A)

You write:
I seem to recall that there exists some shareware that allows
one to change pixel depth (from 1-bit to 8-bits, say) at the
click of the mouse, but can't seem to remember what it is.
I write:
I use DepthGuage, which I got from info-mac (ftp to sumex-aim.stanford.edu).
I don't know the pathname, but it's probably an "extension".
--Joshua

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Date: 24 Aug 92 23:40:00 EST
From: "UBSV01::RUSTY" <rusty@abb.com>
Subject: CTB for HyperCard

Has any seen, or know where I might get a collection of
XCMD's and XFCN's for HyperCard that will provide access
to the Communications Tool Box (CTB). I'v tried APDA, they
only have "raw serial port" support or I can get the CTB
developer's kit, but I'd really like a combination of the two.
I'm more interested in the HyperCard ap[plication in this case
and not having to put too much effort into the "goop" below.

The newest APDA catalog (Aug 1992) lists a product called
"CommsTalk for HyperCard Developer Kit", the price is a bit
stiff, $245, but I can't tell if its what I'm looking for.
Any experience with this product ?

Rusty Rowell
rusty@abb.com

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Date: 24 Aug 1992 18:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: irilyth@FENRIS.CLAREMONT.EDU (Josh Smith)
Subject: Disk Protection Software

We're looking into finding some software to lock down the hard drives of the
Macs in our labs here at Harvey Mudd, something on the order of FileGuard or
FolderBolt. I've encountered the former (as a user, not an administrator),
and our Microcomputing Lab Manager has used the latter extensively, but we
wondered if anyone who had used both could provide a comparison of the two,
or if others who had used either could send comments on their experiences.
Pointers to prior articles on the topic are gratefully accepted as well.

Send e-mail to irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu, and I'll send a summary to the
digest. Thanks!

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 12:08:23 +0200
From: andre@dutera.et.tudelft.nl
Subject: Downloading Not the Waltons?  (A)

I downloaded the movies 'not-the-waltons', 'quayle_season' and
'cary-n-jon-morph'. Fetch didn't work in automatic mode, I had to GET it
binary and then convert it using the MacBinary utility. For those of you
unable GET it binary I have converted them to HQX and posted them to an
anonymous ftp server. You can find them at:

ip = 130.161.145.137 in directory /pub/mac/archive/quicktime

Have Fun!

Andre'

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:04:10 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Downloading Not the Waltons?  (C)

On Mon, 24 Aug 92 07:38:25 PDT you said:
>Like other people, I have downloaded Not the Waltons, the QuickTime
>movie, only to find that it won't run.  I used MacBinary Kermit.  Is
>there some other setting I should have used.

Binary BEFORE ftp from ftp.apple.com to your local host.  You MUST set
Kermit to binary on BOTH ends for your host to Mac transfer.  I've had
no problem getting Simple Player to play Not-the-Waltons (the image
quality looks like something from a VCR though :-(

/s Murph Sewall <Sewall@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:37:30 GMT
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Errors (C)

wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams) writes:

>Well, first, I said it was caused by a bug in a program.  I did not exclude
>INITs.

Agreed.

>Second, there is absolutely nothing that prevents it from being a bug in an
>application.  INIT conflicts are always the first place to look, but out of
>100 applications, you'd be lucky to find 5 that didn't have some bugs
>whether prerelease or in the fifth version.

In my experience, consistent repeatable crashes like the one the
person was experiencing are due to INIT's 999 times out of 1000. I
have almost never seen that kind of repeatable crash in a released
application when it did not involve an INIT.

>Not true at all.  Inits use memory in the System Heap, not in an
>application's heap.

You haven't written too many INITs. Though the code for the INIT is
always in the System Heap, any INIT that adds things like fancy scroll
bars to windows or nifty additions to menus, or funky color things
will allocate memory in the application heap of the currently running
program. Even INITs that don't add graphical things may do this
depending on the functionality they are providing. I have seen oodles
of INITs that do this. Moreover, any INIT that runs in the background
may kick in and allocate huge amounts on the stack of the currently
executing application.

>The System automatically checks every tick for the
>stack moving into the application heap and causes a system error if it has.

Of course, this doesn't help prevent against INITs that crash the
stack into the heap at interrupt time, which is when lots of INITs do
their dirty work, because the heap sniffer will not kick in.

> *VERY* few (including commercial programs) programs handle a system error
>of this type properly (ie with a system error procedure).  Many don't
>handle this error at all and those that do usually just let the system
>error occur since this error is so catastrophic.

But many do notice when memory is getting low with the GrowZone call
and will say things like "Memory is getting tight. Close some
windows."

pr

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:00:23 CDT
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <C509393@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: F-line Instruction Crashes

Thanks for the messages on F-line instruction crashes. I'm preparing a brief
summary of solutions to this problem. I would appreciate hearing from people
who have had F-line system crashes while NOT using Microsoft products and
NOT using FPUless Macs. Anyone out there? Eric.

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:41 N
From: YSTAUB <89611727S%CSGHSG5A.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Faxmodems

I wonder wether someone knows about a powerbook faxmodem which can
distinguish voice an faxes. I only have ONE phone line and want to
use my phone normally. Global Villages ADB modems have a voice/fax
switch, i.e. the modem checks wether it's a fax or not and if not,
you can take the call. Summarizing the faxmodem needs a line for
the phone (like the PowerPort V.32) AND a voice/fax switch.

Thank you

	Yuri Staub

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 07:21:12 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <FEATS%VTVM1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: GIFs of Pro Football teams (Q)

I have been trying to find GIFs of professional football team logos for
over a year now, with no success.  Does anyone know of any?  Thanks!

- feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu

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Date: 25 Aug 92 10:46 +0000
From: DURTSCHIR%AC%CSC@CSC.ISU.EDU
Subject: IIsi Sound Problem (R)


Hi All,

What works for me when my IIsi's sound craps out (usually when I am
flying in HELLCATS OVER THE PACIFIC) is to insert a floppy disk and
eject it again. So far this has worked *EVERY* time to turn the sound
back on.

It dosn't seem reasonable that corrosion on the contacts are the
problem when this fixes the problem.

Bye for now,

Ralph Durtschi, Idaho State University

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 7:53:06 CDT
From: fjvanwet@cwis.unomaha.edu (Francis J. Van Wetering)
Subject: ImageWriter Print Spooling

Once again, an impassioned plea for assistance / direction / information.
Does ANYONE know of a spooling program for a local, NON-Appletalk Imagewriter
that works under System 7?  Commercial software is FINE!  I just desperately
need to spool jobs so that I can have my Mac back!

| F.  J.  Van Wetering, Ph.D.    INTERNET:    fjvanwet@cwis.unomaha.edu    |
| Management Information Systems BITNET: fjvanwet%cwis.unomaha.edu@UNLVAX1 |

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:54:31 EDT
From: Clare Durst <CCD@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #203

Congratulations to the guys who are putting together the CD-rom. Since
getting involved with pcs (various kinds) about 8-9 years ago, I have
always been enamoured of the shareware concept: make available to others
what you yourself would like to see available, and charge a fair (but
not exhorbitant) price, with a try-out time if possible. Although I'm not
likely to BUY one of these since it's easy for me to connect to info-mac`
with FTP, I think it's a great idea! Thanks for thinking of it!

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:33:32 GMT
From: Stan Kerr <stankerr@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Is Superpaint3.0 32-bit clean?

I'm upgrading memory on my IIcx and now need to know if all sorts of things
are 32-bit clean.  Superpaint 3.0 died with a bus error when I ran it in
32-bit mode, so I presume it's not clean. Does anyone have the official word
on that, and whether (and how) I can upgrade to a clean version?
 ---------
Stan Kerr    Computing and Communications Services Office
U of Illinois/Urbana      stankerr@uiuc.edu   (217)333-5217

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Date: 25 Aug 92 15:12:36 MST
From: "John Peterson"  <PETERSOJ@ucs.byu.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter IIg zones...

Excuse me if this has been asked here before...I don't frequent this list.
We have a LaserWriter IIg with EtherTalk (Friendly-net :-) and would like it
to show up in something other than the default zone on an extended phase 2
network with multiple zones.  I've perused the (somewhat sparce)
documentation and can find nothing.  Anyone run into this problem?

Thanks in advance for your help and please respond to me directly.

John Peterson -- Networked Computer Support -- Brigham Young University
Internet: John_Peterson@byu.edu                   Phone: (801) 378-5007

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:28:47 bst
From: Mark Elliott <M.C.Elliott@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: mac.archive.umich.edu (Q)

does anyone know when the mac archive at mac.archive.umich.edu
will resume normal service ? i can now login again, but my local
machine tells me that the remote system type is unknown, and
can't find any files !

thanks

Mark Elliott

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 09:57:18 EDT
From: Doug Larrick (HLO2-3/N2; DTN 225-6017)  25-Aug-1992 0957
<larrick@cadsys.enet.dec.com>
Subject: MacTools 2.0 Backup

I backed up my hard disk with MacTools 2.0's Backup the other night,
and noticed something odd going on: the "current application" icon
would switch back & forth between Backup and the Finder.  Then I
realized what was going on: Backup is using AppleEvents to control
the Finder to do things like format the disks!  Cool stuff!

What's not so cool is that my upper 800K drive (2-drive SE) broke
in the process.  It won't format or read disks.  I guess it doesn't owe
me anything--it's 5 years old, with pretty heavy use.  Would someone
with Larry Pina's _Macintosh Repair Secrets_ book tell me if it
has a section on floppy disk drive repair?  My budget for this
repair is small.  I have one working drive still, but if I can fix
the other one, I will.  But I'm not willing to spend a lot of money,
since I plan to replace the computer in 6 months anyway.

-Doug Larrick

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:40:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kevin R. Walker" <kw27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ModVoicer comments...

This post is just to announce a real address for me (Kip Walker) the author
of ModVoicer - a tiny Mac app that lets you mess with the sounds in Amiga
module files...

Please direct any mail to "kw27+@andrew.cmu.edu"

I have gotten enough mail to consider continuing working on ModVoicer, but
since I'm now just starting a Freshman year in college, I'm going to put off
leisure programming indefinitely...(is that possible??)

SOOOO...if there's anything you'd REALLY like to see done to the program,
tell me and I'll make an effort, otherwise it's going to stagnate for a
while.

Thanks to all who responded originally...

Kip

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:21:26 EDT
From: mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: norton/mactools (R)

On 21 Aug 92 22:34:58 EDT David.M.Tillinghast@Dartmouth.EDU writes :

> I use Norton's SpeedDisk over the MacTools optimizer because the MacTools
> version always quits out on me because it says there's not enough free space
> to allow an optimization (2-2.5 Megs out of 40 megs). Norton does quite fine
> with that.
>

MacTools Optimizer VERIFIES each file after writing it to a new location
BEFORE
deleting the original.  It will not proceed unless it has room to put the new
unfragmented version of the file.  If you only have 2 - 2.5 MB of free space
left on a 40MB disk, chances are pretty good that your largest CONTIGUOUS free
space location is very small.  I do not know for sure about the newest version
of Speeddisk, but the old version did not verify it's writes this way.  If it
is still true, then that would explain this, since it could read a file's
various fragments into memory, delete them (freeing up more disk space) and
then writing the unfragmented version to disk.  This is very risky since if
anything interrupts SpeedDisk such as a powerfailure, then the file will be
damaged or, more probably, totally lost.  Personally, I will stick to
MacTool's
tried & true SAFE methods.  It may seem inconvenient to have to free up more
disk space, but you have to admit, running with only  5-7% free space is
probably pushing it.

> An additional complaint - the undelete portion of MacTools will only
undelete
> certain types of files. I don't think this is true of the Norton version
> (although I could be wrong). At least I've had a lot of success with Norton
> and some pretty obscure files.

This is not true.  MacTools uses two forms of deleted file recovery.  The
preferred method is to use the undelete protection set by the Mirror control
panel.  This records the physical location of every file deleted no matter
what
the type in advance so that you can grab it later.  You tell it how many files
to track this way.  FileSaver works in a similar manner.  The other method is
to scan for data that matches recognizable patterns that indicate the file is
of a known type so MacTools can try to rebuild it.  Yes, CP Undelete comes
with
a preset list of 'types' of files it can scan for and recognize, but you can
easily extend/modify this list.  See page 50 in your manual it is very
straightforward.

Recovering deleted files by any utility is dependent on the file's formerly
allocated space on the disk not having been overwritten by a new file.  Again,
with only 2-2.5 MB of free space, you leave the OS little room to avoid this
problem.  You should seriously consider purchasing more disk space or using an
auto-compression tool such as AutoDoubler or SpaceSaver to free up disk
space.

On the subject of MacTools 2.0 in general, I have only one real complaint and
that echo's one that Murph Sewall already voiced.  The new version of Mirror
is
incredibly SLOW compared to version 1.2.  It takes the new version about a
full
minute to backup my files while version 1.2 only takes 7-8 seconds!  Because
of
this, I have decided to stick with Mirror version 1.2.  This seems to work
correctly with the rest of MacTools v2.0 tools such as DiskFix and CP
Undelete.
Switching between the to Mirrors will require removing the invisible CP Delete
Tracking file, since they have slightly different formats.  CP Undelete seems
able to read either version, though.

I don't use the DriveLight doo-hickey so I can't comment on that.  The
CP-Anti-Virus tools seem to work as advertised, but I turned them off for now
for the same reason I don't use tools like Virex:  It is very irritating to
keeep getting scanning prompts everytime a floppy is put in.  I feel very
comfortable with Disinfectant and will keep CP Anti-Virus handi for the
occasional scan only.  I am satisfied with the rest of the Tools, though I
wish
they had decided to continue the Locate DA.

Finally, the reports of the demise of FileEdit have been greatly exagerated.
It has simply been rewritten and renamed as DiskEdit.  DiskEdit has all the
same capabilities as FileEdit did, but changes the interface somewhat.  At
first I thought this was for the worst, since FileEdit was amazingly easy &
straightforward to use, but after twiddling with it a bit, I am beginning to
prefer the DiskEdit interface.  For one thing, I like the fact that
double-clicking on a file in the directory window pops up a dialog that alows
you to edit the various file attributes instead of having to select a menu
command.  Since changing FILE TYPE/CREATOR TYPE is probably the most common
use
of FileEdit/DiskEdit, this is a nice improvement.

All-n-all, with the exception of the slowness of the new Mirror CP, I give a
general 'thumbs up' to MacTools 2.0.  I cannot vouch for whether it is truly
better than Norton Utilities 2.0 as the MacWeek reviews imply, as I do not own
NUM.  I think both packages, from the comments on the digest have their own
strengths and weeknesses.  I will say that I have been very pleased in the
past
with Central Point for getting out notification of upgrades to their
customers.
They also have been fairly easy to get ahold of on the phone and have a fairly
easy-to-use BBS to log onto for upgrade/fix downloading.  Although I am VERY
pleased with my only Symantec product, Think Pascal, they have proven very
inept in the past about upgrade notifications and twice have lost track of me
in their database even though I have, indeed registered (more than once,
now!).

I hope this info is useful.  Usual discaimers apply.

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:40:13 EDT
From: Dave Virga <virgad@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
Subject: PB100 & Price Club (C)

 Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com> writes:
>Subject: I was lucky, PB100 & Price Club (C)

>I lurked at 4 separate Price Clubs in the San Francisco Bay Area for a
week...
>...at 2pm, they were down to 10 PowerBooks... I'm certain that by 2:30pm all
>30 had been sold.

>We got lucky. ...Your odds of snagging a PowerBook at Price Club are very
very
>slim.

The Sterling, VA Price Club (outskirts of Washington, DC) had at least four
PB100's sitting on the shelf when I visited last Sunday.  They started with
about ten of them, about a week after the news broke.

DC obviously has fewer Right-Brainers than San Francisco... :-)

Dave
virgad@cc.ims.disa.mil

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Date: 25 Aug 92 02:13:31 GMT
From: arao@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Andy Rao    )
Subject: persian writing

Hi everybody.  I have a question.  Is there some sort of software
package public domain, shareware, or commercial that I can buy that
will let me write in the persian language?  maybe there is an
attatchment to a popular wordproccessor such as word perfect
or microsoft word or pagemaker that will allow such a thing? or
maybe there is just a standalone program that does this? i want
to be able to enter persian characters and print them out on my
computer.  I have a macintosh.  please reply via e-mail as I don't
often have access to the news.  thank you very much.

-andy


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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 08:48 IST
From: Michael Green <SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Photoshop: in & out

Distinguished designers, I'm looking for tips and your experience with
Photoshop.  I am using a (friend's!) Microtek 600zs scanner to scan in my own
artwork which hopefully will illustrate the book I'm working on. At the moment
I'm working with RGB at 100 dpi, and because I live in a place where colour
printing is horribly expensive, I have to go on trust as to the quality of the
output.  (On screen it looks great.)  Will those 100 dpi be sufficient
resolution when printed out?  Is the Photoshop format the best to choose to
preserve resolution?  Would Pict format have equal resolution?  I want to
import the pictures into PageMaker and Canvas - are there plug-ins for these
programs to be able to "place" Photoshop format images?  Or is there another,
cheaper, and more expeditious way to fool PageMaker so that I can get those
images into place next to the streams of text, and get on with my work without
further delay?

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:34:00 +0000
From: "Bob (R.B.) Summers" <bob@x400gate.bnr.ca>
Subject: Printing Text From HyperCard (Q)

Dear HyperCard Netters

I need some help printing text from Hypercard.  I want to print a plain text
file using a mono-spaced font such as Courier to preserve column alignment.
The text contains the page break character (ie, Form Feed, decimal 12, $0C).

I would be nice to print the text file directly, but I don't want to call a
separate application to do this.

Right now I read the file into a variable and use HyperCard's Print command
to do the printing.  Unfortunately, the Print command doesn't respect the
Form Feed codes, so I have to read it in a page at a time and print each page
as a separate document.  This means the user gets the "Printing Page 1"
message appearing and disappearing for each page along.  As well, the user
gets documents from other users who print on the network in between his/her
pages.

I've tried the PrintContainer XCMD with no better results.  I used to have an
older XCMD called PrintField in the past, but I remember it printing in a
proportional font no matter what I asked for.

I suppose I could count lines until the next $0C and add blank lines to fill
out each page, but that seems so ... so ... yeuchy!

Does anyone have any ideas or know of any XCMDS that can help?  Is there some
other hex code that the Print command does respect?

Thanks

Bob Summers  (Bob.@BNR.CA)
Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom Ltd
Ottawa, Canada.

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92   9:49 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Problems downloading Not the Waltons, and related issues

I downloaded Jon Pugh's Not the Waltons movie from ftp.apple.com and had
absolutely no trouble with it at all!  I used binary ftp and then pushed it
>From our Vax (not even a *!%#-Unix box!) to a Mac using the MacBinary option
in VersaTerm Pro.  The movie was decoded as it came down, very impressive.
By the way folks this is IMHO a particularly neat movie and you can even back
it up to a HD floppy once you've finished with it, it's that compact.  Maybe
everybody who wants to make public domain QT movies should aim to produce
such "video bites" with 1.4 Mb as an upper limit.
Paul Brians said that Simple Player claims it's out of memory when it
tries to play his (probably badly downloaded) copy of the movie.  You could
try just boosting the memory but in my experience this is something you
should not need to do; with its default setting of 1 Mb Simple Player will
happily cope with 3, 4 Mb movies complete with soundtrack.  If Simple Player
is running out of memory I think it could be that the movie's resource map is
wrong.  For example, with the 3d Shapes movie on Sumex that I've been
complaining about, Simple Player claims there is "no movie in the data fork",
but it WILL play it if you allot 3 Mb of memory!  This is ridiculous
considering that the file is 1.8 Mb (of which only 600k is actual movie), and
as I mentioned in Digest 202, this is probably because the movie's resource
fork is way too big (the authors have been notified).
Paul's downloading problems make it an opportune time to discuss just what
this MacBinary format is.  Maybe someone could post a brief explanation of
the format and list the correct set of options to choose when transferring
such files.  I for one would like to know if MacBinary is really binary or
whether it's a misleading name for a special text format - I notice some
MacBinary ENCODERS produce files of type TEXT!

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:05:09 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Quadra Crashes Continued

On Monday, 24 Aug 1992 10:14:06 EDT you said:
>Continuing the discussion on Quadra crashes, I had quite a time getting
>my Quadra 700 to settle down.  On frequent occassions, it would attempt
>to boot, but then would immediately put up a flashing dialog box.  I
>eventually narrowed the problem down to an older version of MacsBug.
>
>However, I'm not completely out of the woods.  It still crashes much more
>frequently than a Mac IIfx, IIci and a IIsi running System 7 do.

What horrible INITs are you subjecting your poor Quadra too?  I wish
people would quit posting these Quadra scare stories.  The problem
*might* be a hardware glitch (bad SIMM, poorly seated SIMM, cracked
solder joint??), but MORE LIKELY the problems are software problems (I
too found out that the Quadra doesn't like any MacsBug earlier than
6.2.2).  I managed to weed out extensions/cdevs (very few actually) that
gave my Quadra indigestion sometime before last November 10.  I've found
a few trouble makers since (they're easy to spot with the "what did I toss
into the pot lately" criterion).

I use a IIci by day and a Quadra by night.  I'm loading the same 50+
extensions/cdevs on both.  A substantial fraction of those are
shareware.  If anything, the Quadra is more stable than the IIci, but I
can get either to run happily for days (at least 5, I've always had some
other reason to restart in fewer days than 6) if I don't challenge the
Mac with "let's see what this does" :)

Murph's (nearly) sure-fire formula for a stable Quadra.  Limit yourself
solely to Apple's or commercial extensions/cdevs with the exeception of
screen savers--either don't use a screen saver at all (turn the monitor
off when your going to be away from the Mac for any length of time), or
use Darkside (I've heard a lot of debate on the subject.  My own
experience is that both Darkside and AfterDark will dump into the
debugger with about equal frequency--but there's a distinct possibility
that neither are guilty; that is, some other extension could have
crashed and the screen saver is an innocent bystander.  Nevertheless,
all the developers I know distinctly favor Darkside).

I've run exclusively 32-bit mode since last December.  I haven't turned
the caches off since I downloaded Alysis's compatibility cdev (which has
disappeared from sumex but is available from mac.archive.umich.edu -
/mac/system.extensions/cdev/compatibility2.2.cpt.hqx  If you find a DA
or an app that doesn't like the '040 use Compatibility until you can get
the software updated.

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 23:13:46 CST
From: GR4486@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject: Radius PIVOT and MacDraw Pro and Kermit .99

We are having problems on the Radius PIVOT (gray) with Macdraw Pro:
Whenever the "T" (text tool) is selected, the screen freezes.  Other
graphic tools behave OK.  Does anyone have similar experience?

Also I tried the new Kermit on the same machine and the menubar was
frozen.

System configuration: Mac IIsi, 5 meg RAM, System 6.0.7, multifinder.

Thanks for any hints.

Jack

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:34:32 -0400
From: "Arel Y. Weisberg" <weisberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Subject: RAM expansion on the Quadra 950

My lab is considering purchasing a Quadra 950.  I read that it has 12
memory expansion slots.  When adding RAM, do I have to fill all 12 slots
at once?  What is the most RAM that I can add?  Is there a system limit
beyond which all the remaining RAM could only be used as a RAM disk?  We
are interested in having around 40 megs of physical RAM in our system.

Many thanks for your help,

Arel Weisberg
weisberg@phoenix.princeton.edu

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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:50:30 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: SBFix Part II

Please ignore the previous message.  I tried double clicking
on the "fixer" and found out what it is for.  Ah, how easy
it is to forget to try the simple things in life ;-)

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
smaxwell@engin.umich.edu

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Date: 25 Aug 1992 15:48:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: RHBECKER@vx.cis.umn.edu
Subject: Suspected DeltaGraph Pro Bug

	The problem with generating capial letters in the Save and
Save As boxes using the shift key is due to an interaction between
SuperBoomerang and Directory Assistance II.  I believe this is in the
Read Me that comes with the latest Norton Utilities, or I may have seen
it in one of the comp.sys.mac newsgroups.

Richard Becker

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:59:16 CDT
From: wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams)
Subject: Tech support mailing list

>I suppose it could also be a newsgroup so mere mortal users could
>lurk and pick up tips, but the primary focus would be for tech support
>people to work together, no matter what company they happen to work
>for. It would probably have to be explicitly stated that the group
>wouldn't exist just for users to ask questions or overworked
>techs would soon stop bothering to read it.
>
>Anyone want to set such a beast up? :-)

I don't think a newsgroup would work.  No matter how much you publicized
it, you'd have constant problems with people posting.

I'm not real familiar with the way listservers work, but couldn't you set
one up that the administrator had to approve all posts? Even better would
be one that allows subscriptions from any address, but only posts that
match an "access file." Any from someone that wasn't tech support would be
sent a form letter saying they are allowed to read, but not post.

I'd prefer to see corporate IS and university IS personnel included in the
"allowed" personnel as well.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
wadew@mail.auburn.edu

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 08:29:45 EDT
From: Stephen Moye <SMOYE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject: TIFF<->RIFF without ColorStudio: How?

If you don't have ColorStudio (or ImageStudio) how do you convert
between RIFF and TIFF? Does GIFconverter do this? (It is currently
absent from the SUMEX archives, by the way). There are any number of
utilities available on mac.archive.umich.edu: will any of these do the
trick.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Stephen Moye
Graphic Services
Brown University

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:40:13 EDT
From: Dave Virga <virgad@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
Subject: Time Stamp Versions Symantec/Norton) (C)

Al Bloom writes:

>Is this a hoot or what? Symantec is using the time stamp for incremental
>upgrades instead of changing the version number/date. Leslye's response
>was her ingenuous smile and a "We don't admit our errors, do we?"

This trick is a hold-over from the PeeCee world, where no facility exists to
record the version number.  Norton Utilities for DOS did this at least up
through version 4:51 :), when I lost touch with it.

Dave
virgad@cc.ims.disa.mil

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 01:07:49 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: usefulness of math coprocessor?

On Mon, 24 Aug 1992 17:06:25 GMT you said:
>What's the *real* benefit of a math coprocessor? Is it going to help
>me if I'm wordprocessing and writing Prolog and C programs which don't
>involve a lot of floating-point computation? The salesmen at
>local computer stores say, "Oh, yeeeees sir, if you are compuuuuting
>you will neeeed the coprooocessoooor." But I'm not convinced. Plus,
>going for one means a large expenditure (in my case it would entail
>buying the Powerbook 170 instead of the 145)...

Math coprocessors do nice things for graphics as well as for
traditional number crunching.  However, your description of what you
need suggests that you won't get much marginal benefit from an FPU.  As
the user group ambassador told John Sculley on a Compu$erve forum some
years ago, too many dealers appear to be former (failed) shoe salesmen.

If the PowerBook is going to be your primary Mac, you may want to spend
the money on the 170 for the display rather than the FPU.  If you can,
wait until 19 October.  The grayscale displays on the 160 and 180 are
likely to a lot nicer than the one-bit displays on the current models.
Both the 160 and 180 will have color video out.  It sounds to me like
what you want is a 160 and the new Apple 13" color monitor (for only
about $500 more than the current price of the 145).  Use it with the
monitor most of the time but retain the capability to pick up and go.

Try and find a salemen that listens to what you want to DO with a
computer and recommends a model that matches your need.  Apple offers a
lot of models (Classic II, LC II, IIsi) without coprocessors (which can
be added for not too much money) because the majority of Mac users don't
really need them.

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Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 09:06:01 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Uses for Labels

Simon Kozin asked if anyone had developed interesting uses for the
Finder's Label Menu.   I don't know if my use could be considered
as unique, but it has proven helpful.

When I run into problems with extension or control panel conflicts,
I remove (or add) the potential offenders one at a time.  Sometimes
I do this over a period of days, just to be sure that the recently
added goodies have a time to age and settle in.

In order to keep myself informed as to which Extensions or Control
Panels when in it which order, I date stamp them with the label's
command.  I can then open the System Folder and see which items
were added in what order and when they were added.  It makes debuging
the System Folder a whole lot easier.

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:27 CST
From: "Robert E. Front" <T121267@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw>
Subject: VersaTerm-Pro: How to change printing font (Q)

VersaTerm-Pro's edit utility is printing in Monaco 12 point
which seems to be too large as lines are being truncated.
How can I change the default font to  CourierTT or Monaco TT
and adjust the font size?

r o b e r t

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:33 EST
From: Fritz Morgan <FMORGAN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Were can I find RevRdist?

I need to get a new copy of RevRdist.  Does anyone know were I can get a copy
of it?  Also does anyone know of a package that I could use instead ?  Thanks

			Fritz Morgan
			fmorgan@jack.clarku.edu

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Date: 25 Aug 1992 15:37:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: RHBECKER@vx.cis.umn.edu
Subject: Why is a 105Mb not a 105 Mb? (A)

	In the discussion about why hard drive sizes are not what they are
claimed to be, I have not seen the following explanation considered. The
prefixes kilo and mega have different meanings in normal usage and in usage
with computers.  A drive with 105,000,000 bytes on it when formatted can
be said to be a 105 Megabyte drive.  However, since on a computer a kbyte
is 1024 bytes, and a Mbyte may be 1000 kbytes or 1024 kbytes depending on
who is doing the calculating, the 105 Meg drive can show 102.5 Meg or 100.1
Meg as its capacity.  Similarly, 80,000,000 bytes/(1024x1024) is 76.3 Megs.
This is independent of whether there are hidden partitions as on the Apple-
supplied internal drives and has nothing to do with the block size as
suggested in info-mac 202.
	I hope this satisfies some of the people wondering about this
question.

Richard Becker

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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: WinWord -> MacWord -> PageMaker Bug

Try the following:

1. Create a document in Word for Windows (2.0 or 2.0a) that contains typeset
style single and double quotes (use the Insert Symbol feature with font
set to "Normal Text").

2. Save this document in Word for Macintosh 5.0 format.

3. Transfer this document to a Macintosh that has PageMaker 4.01 or 4.2 with
the MS Word 4.0 - 5.0 Import.flt installed.

4. Try placing the document.

BUG #1: PageMaker will NOT recognize it as a Word file.

5. Open the document with Mac Word 5.0 (it should open fine) and save the
document as a Normal Mac Word 5.0 file.

6. Go back to PageMaker and place this file.

BUG #2: It will now be recognized as a Word file, but the typeset style
single and double quotes will be dropped.

OK, I know the workaround is to save in RTF format or save in WinWord
format and then convert using Word for Mac, but it's still a bug that can
be a nuisance.

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 22:19:25 -0600
From: igorl@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
Subject: Zoom V.32bis ARA script

>Hi, here is the official Zoom faxmodem V.32 ARA script. The one posted
earlier
>(V.32 Turbo) had problems with V.32 bis modems.

Unfortunately, this script does not work with Zoom V.32 turbo modems.

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