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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:50:36 -0400 
From: Matthew Ira Campbell <mc76+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: RE : proglink

A Game?
For us affected and often possessed Prog Rock Fans?
What an excellent idea!
Now the net has fully satisfied all my biological needs!

It's sort of reminiscent of a game I once played called golf where the
fewest strokes to a hole (not the progrock group) won you the game! 
Well, I haven't got a clue for the Zeppelin/Chrusaders connection, but I
do have some other ones to put forth.
How about:
KC (king crimson) and KC and the Sunshine Band
Genesis and Exodus
Asia and America 
Herman's Hermits and Marillion
Keith Emerson and ELP
or
Jon Anderson and me!

Tough ones, huh? 
(Well i'll give you the last one. Jon Anderson>Yes>Bill Bruford>King
Crimson> Adrain Belew>me! [actually I only met him once so I guess
that's about 4 penalty strokes])

P.S. - anyone who can actually find a connection between KC and KC and
the Sunshine Band or Herman's Hermits and Marillion is trully a PROGROCK
GOD!!!!

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Real to Reel (sp?)
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:19:07 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I've never heard of this album! Thought I had all the Marillion stuff, prior to
Fish's departure. 

Is it a video, perhaps?

Rabbi

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: fox-r@hippocampus.cis.ohio-state.edu (The Guitarist From Hell)
Subject: More Proglink -- Zappa and Genesis???
Organization: Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:36:56 GMT

Ok Prog link fans, here's one for you.  I am a big Zappa fan, and Zappa
has played with so many musicians, you can connect Zappa to nearly everyone.
Well, Genesis is quite popular around here.  So, how can we
connect Zappa to Genesis?  Well, there is a terribly easy link
(Chester Thompson played with Zappa before Genesis).  But can
you think of any other links between Zappa and Genesis?  I have
come up with 6 others so far.  I will post these tomorrow.

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"I asked as nice as I could, if my job would somehow be
 finished by friday, well the whole damn weekend came and 
 went 'n' they didn't do nothin' but they charged me double
 for sunday" -- Flakes, Frank Zappa
 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: mkj@sup.stollmann.de (Michael Joehnk)
Subject: Re: Anyone seen John Zorn
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 10:58:57 GMT
Organization: Stollmann GmbH, D-2000 Hamburg 50, Germany
Keywords: John Zorn

glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:

> ballj@pell4l20 (Jamie Ball) writes:

>>	I am looking for information about John Zorn who did "The Music of  
>>Ennnio Morricone," and "Ornette Coleman," and "Naked City

>Uh, sure.  I've seen him.  What do you want to know?

>And why the heck are you asking here?

I suppose, though John Zorn differs a lot from groups like Camel or Yes,
HE does REAL progressive music. - (I must admit, it's not everyone's
taste.)
I think this group might also be a
forum for talking about music which goes far beyond the commercially
progressive bands, Zorn belongs to this, also Kronos Quartet, Fred
Frith, Iva Bittova, Lindsay Cooper, Arvo Paert (even he), P.Glass, only
to mention a few. If for somebody there is too much of talk about those,
then I would propose a new group for the future:
alt.music.very.progressive for instance.


Michael mj@stollmann.de
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Clearlight / Clearlight Symphony ??
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:42:44 GMT

ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen) writes:

>There's at least one other Verdeaux solo worth checking out - it's called
>"Rhapsodie pour le planete bleu" or something like that, I got it a few
>years ago and I'm pretty sure it was new then. Real nice stuff, like
>"Symphony II" but maybe a little more new-age oriented; There's some
>spoken word stuff at the beginning and end, but to the best of my recall
>the rest of it is 100% instrumental.

I said:
>Cyrille Verdeaux moved to 
>Santa Cruz, CA in the 80s, at least for a while. He did a solo lp that's
>much in the Clearlight vein called Messenger of The Sun, on Catero records
>in the late 80s. There's a heavy piano sound and at times all of the pieces
>by verdeux start to sound like the same composition to me. It's nice music. 

I discovered last night that Verdeaux also released 6 or 7 cassette
only releases named after chakras - someone is selling these used for about
$8 each in a catalog I just got. There's only 6 listed, but each are named
for chakras and I seem to recall there are 7 chakras. They are titled 
Kundalani Opera - First Chakra, Second Chakra, etc. It looks like they 
were sold through Eurock in the early 80's.  

What I was trying to say before is that Verdeaux sounds like he's always
playing the same piece - the instrumentation varies, as do the musicians
and the textures of the pieces, but overall he's got a sound that is consistent
pretty much from work to work, and he doesn't seems to explore much beyond
that basic framework, but it's excellent music. I'd recommend the solo lp
Messenger of The Sun to anyone who can find it - it's on a US label and
probably in cutout bins somewhere out there. 

I'm sad that I missed at least one chance to see Verdeaux live in Santa
Cruz around 1987 or 1988. Does anyone know if he still lives in the area? 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: worthm@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael A Worth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: re : proglink
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:51:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Okay, just to add in another really vicious link.... Can anyone link these two
bands? (They happen to be my two favorite bands and two legendary prog rock
groups....)

Ready? Here goes...
	Link Yes ====> Rush!!

	Good luck. If y'all are stumped, I'll print a hint.

	Mike
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: Uriah Heep member questions
Keywords: byron thain dead
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:25:03 GMT

craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (Craig Shipley) writes:

> but does anyone know what happened to Byron? 

Found dead in a hotel room a couple of years ago (1985/86 I believe).
Drugs/alcohol death, if I recall correctly.

> Also, what happened to the keyboardist/guitarist/vocalist, Ken Hensley?

He went and joined Blackfoot for a while ('Teenage Idol' is a song
from that period). BUt that was years ago and I have no idea where he
is now.

> Kinda lost interest in the band after "Wonderworld"...any later gems I
> missed?

Mick Box has kept Heep alive for far longer than the band really
deserved (and as far as I know they still exist, but have difficulties
obtaining a record contract. They still tour heavily, and visit
Holland regularly).

In my personal opinion the albums "Abominog" and "Head First" are
truly excellent hard rock albums (they have nothing to do with the
'old' Uriah Heep, though). The incarnation of Heep that recorded those
albums had John Sinclair on keyboards, Peter Goalby on vocals, Bob
Daisley on bass, and whatshisname on drums. And of course Mick
"Wah-wah" Box on guitar.

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood)
Subject: Re: Asia --> Pop-rock not progressive
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:13:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.233309.16778@bmerh85.bnr.ca> reaume@bmerh962.bnr.ca (Andy Reaume) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.121845.20677@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood) writes:
>
>> Yes, Wetton does a couple of old King Crimson tracks on this, one of which
>> was Starless. Also, on the video he and Downes do a version of "Rendezvous
>> 6.02" which is also from Wetton's pre-Asia days.
>> 

[stuff deleted re:UK]
>	Where can I get the video of the Asia tour?

The Asia Live in Moscow video is produced by the same company who put out
the CD. I haven't seen it (the video) available in Canada at all, even at
the big superstores down here on Yonge Street. I drove to Buffalo and picked
it up there for $14.99.

>> 
>> The main problem seems to be that Wetton is very uninspired. In the video, he
>> just seems to look around a lot and sing the songs, rather than get into the
>> music in the slightest. If anyone has seen the video for "Prayin' for a
>> miracle", you would get my point. Downes, Thrall and Palmer get right into it,
>> but Wetton is obviously already thinking "gee, what could I be doing instead
>> of this??"
>
>	That's funny, because if you ever look at photos Wetton with
>any of the numerous bands and projects he's played with and for, in   
>almost all of them he's smiling. Most artists give the serious look 
>when posing for photos.

Wetton's look for this release is more along the lines of "hmmm... now what
was that next line again", or "10,000 fans; 10,001 fans; 10,002 fans... (while
scanning the audience)"


Simon

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: blindsay@bmerh9f5.bnr.ca (Brian Lindsay)
Subject: Re: Digging in the Dirt
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:34:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.054235.11961@ucc.su.OZ.AU> studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) writes:
>In article <1asfpmINNo9a@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haining@fern.ucsc.edu (Theodore Haining) writes:
>>For all you Peter Gabriel, Genesis fans out there, here's a bit
>>of trivia:
>>
>>I just got _Us_ by Peter Gabriel yesterday (a very recommendable 
>>disc by the way).  I was looking through the credits on the album 
>>and who did I see doing backing vocals on Digging in the Dirt but
>>Richard McPhail, Genesis' old sound friend from Foxtrot and Live.
>>
>>I wonder Richard's been doing for the last twenty years between
>>appearances.
>>
>
>Not to mention Peter Hammill as well. Who'd a thought it.
>

Not a huge surprise. He appeared on a couple of tracks on 
Peter Gabriel #4 as well.
--
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The opinions expressed above are solely those of Brian Lindsay
From: DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Suggestions for American Listeners
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:45:40 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Greetings once again! (Where are you all going??  No... Don't run away.?.)

ahem...  Anyway, I'm a "new" Progressive Rock Listener, having been listen-
ing to the music for about 3 1/2 years now.  I was introduced to it by
Marillion, and only 1 1/2 years ago did I get into SOME of the roots (what
I discovered), like Yes and Genesis.  Through the Marillion mailing list,
some smart-alec (and many thanks to him!!) wondered what peoples' top-5
favorite prog. rock albums were.  Well, this changed me completely!  I used
to think that tapes were pretty good and CDs were awesome, and vinyl was
dead weight. Now, for me I buy mostly albums!!  Also, I must have heard
mention of over 150 groups I never would have known to exist!!

      My collection, still small, now consists of things like UK, Camel,
Triumvirat, Renaissance, Rick Wakeman, Clearlight, ELP, Focus, Gentle Giant,
iQ, and others I can't think of from the top of my head.

      The point of all this is (I knew you were waiting for this...) that
I've exhausted nearly ALL of my resources (places to go to buy used LPs)
and I know of too many things that I still want to get.    Are things this
limited ALL OVER America?  Or is it that I just have to find new places
abroad to go to (i.e. New York City from Allentown)?  Are these things
available in just about every average store in Europe??  Does anybody out
there know of anything else that IS available on a wide scale in America
that are along these lines???

PLEASE E-mail me the responses,

                               Thanks!!
                                       David A. Barro
From: smsst8+@pitt.edu (Steven M Scholnick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Marillion albums...
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:52:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Are all of Marillion albums available in the States?  I've been able to find
everything but _B Sides Themselves_, and _Reel to Reel_.  Are they only
available as imports?  Thanx for any help...
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From: chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: The shortest ELP -> Black Sabbath connection
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:31:29 GMT
Organization: School of Cognitive & Computing Sciences, Univ. of Sussex
In-reply-to: borella@cs.ucdavis.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 01:13:02 GMT

In article <9210150111.AA16828@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella) writes:


   I thin the one Ron was looking for is:

   Emerson & Iommi working together on Rock Aid Armenia

Actually, I had Ian Gillan in mind, but Iommi will do.  Well done!


   -Mike

   PS: I'm doing all of this off the top of my head - to be 
       fair, everyone else should too! :-)



Of course!
--
Ronald L. Chrisley  ronc@cogs.susx.ac.uk
COGS, University of Sussex
Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QH, UK
From: DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: *** Steve Sycamore, where are you?
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:07:03 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Hey, Steve, where'd you go?  Weren't you going to get back to me with your
new net address?  Well, anyway, full steam ahead with the albums.  My
address is :
                    David A. Barro              Ph.  (814) 867-2816
                    719-A Whitehall Rd.
                    State College, PA  16801

                                           Thanks!!
                                                   Dave
P.S.  I just got out of court, and was found NOT GUILTY of a speeding
      charge!!  Justice is truly done, this time!  I'm so excited!
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: ghogen@phoibi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Hogen)
Subject: Re: Silmarillion
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  7 Oct 92 20:12:03 GMT

> I've occasionally people mention a band called Silmarillion in
> connection with Marillion.

>A band or a book.  The Silmarillion was a book by J.R.R. Tolkein.

Both right. Marillion originally called themselves Silmarillion,
after the book by Tolkien. Later on, they skipped the "Sil".

guido
(ghogen@zeus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de)
From: chrisley@oxford.ac.uk (Ronald L Chrisley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: An even shorter Yes -> Rush connection
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:35:57 GMT
Organization: School of Cognitive & Computing Sciences, Univ. of Sussex
In-reply-to: borella@cs.ucdavis.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 01:14:56 GMT

In article <9210150113.AA16864@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella) writes:


   Speaking of Rock Aid Armenia, Chris Squire and Alex Lifeson were both on it.
   Beat that!

OK: Geddy Lee was actually in Yes for two weeks after Jon left after
Tormato...  No?  OK: Wakeman toured with Rush to do their keyboards so
Geddy would only have to sing, play bass, and bass pedals...

You win.

   *Please stop this! I'm getting no work done!*

No.  And here's your next assignment:  Mike Oldfield to Big Country.

   -Mike

--
Ronald L. Chrisley  ronc@cogs.susx.ac.uk
COGS, University of Sussex
Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QH, UK
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rafem@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone)
Subject: Re: Uriah Heep member questions
Keywords: byron thain dead
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:20:14 GMT

In article <9997@pyrdc.UUCP> craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (Craig Shipley) writes:
>on bass) "are no longer with us". Now I knew that Thain had died many 
>years ago (hepatitis, wasn't it?), but does anyone know what happened to
>Byron? Straighten me out, please...
>

Dave Byron did indeed die.  I believe a drug overdose was the cause of
death.  I think he was the lead singer for Rough Diamond at the time of
his demise.


Regards,

rafem

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Asia live album: reviews wanted
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:40:38 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Vancouver WA
Wombat: yes
Number: 31400

In article <BvpsIt.GtI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tbmg9061@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas B MacIukenas) writes:
> 
> nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> 
> >Is it any good?
> 
> I wouldn't want to pay the full import
> price for it, though.

I've seen both US and UK issues of it, so neither should have to pay import
prices.  I got it because I enjoyed the first Asia album, was mildly amused
by the second and liked the idea of getting a live album.  It *is* enjoyable,
for the most part.  "Open Your Eyes" is almost painful to listen to, though:
the studio version has all those overlaid vocal tracks - but they just don't
even begin to do the original justice.  All in all, I'd recommend it.  More
than Asia's third album.


--
Scott Lindsey <wombat@claris.com>
From: reaume@bmerh962.bnr.ca (Andy Reaume)
Subject: Re: Proposal for a game:  proglink
Summary: ELP Black Sabbath
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 18:03:38 GMT


ELP: Cozy Powell
Black Sabbath: Cozy Powell

An interesting idea for a game but there is one problem. Anyone who
has any version of Peter Frame's progressive rock family tree can
easily ace this quiz. 

Andy
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: jstimson@jarthur.claremont.edu (John Stimson)
Subject: Dixie Dregs Tour Dates?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:33:27 GMT


I noticed a while ago that east coast tour dates for the Dixie Dregs got 
posted to rec.music.info...Does anyone know if/when they will be playing the
west coast (especially the LA area)?
							John
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: marwood@csri.toronto.edu (Simon J. Marwood)
Subject: Re: Asia live album: reviews wanted
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:18:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.000613.9276@vax.oxford.ac.uk> nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>The other day I saw an import CD of an Asia live concert in Moscow,
>which (amusingly enough) claimed to contain "Starless" and some other
>King Crimson number, along with a reasonably good choice of Asia tracks
>(in so far as there is such a thing as a reasonably good choice of Asia
>tracks).
>
>Is it any good?
>

You should actually be able to get a UK version of the Moscow disc by now. I
would not recommend paying import prices for it, although I did, being a
diehard fan...

Yes, Wetton does a couple of old King Crimson tracks on this, one of which
was Starless. Also, on the video he and Downes do a version of "Rendezvous
6.02" which is also from Wetton's pre-Asia days.

Having bought the video of this tour, I think I can evaluate the disc a bit
better than before. It is *not* a great disc, certainly, but isn't too bad
either. 

The main problem seems to be that Wetton is very uninspired. In the video, he
just seems to look around a lot and sing the songs, rather than get into the
music in the slightest. If anyone has seen the video for "Prayin' for a
miracle", you would get my point. Downes, Thrall and Palmer get right into it,
but Wetton is obviously already thinking "gee, what could I be doing instead
of this??"

Some songs come across quite well. Others like "Open your Eyes" need the
overlayed vocals and computerized voice additions in order to sound their
best, as noted earlier. The hits are done up to par, although I wasn't too
happy with "Only Time Will Tell".

In order to really enjoy the disc though, you should be at least a semi-Asia
fan. There are a large # of people around who seem to enjoy buying Asia stuff
and then saying how dreadful the band has always been. ?

Simon
 

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From: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc
Subject: New Anthony Phillips
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:47:14 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Today at the store I saw a new release by anthony phillips titled
"New England - Private Parts & Pieces 8" or something like that. the $ 25
price tag seemed a little steep for a UK import, so I held on to my cash.

Does anyone know if this one will be released domestically, like "Slow
Dance" and "Finger Painting" (I assume it would be released on virgin) ?

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Tribal Wave???
Date: 14 Oct 1992 17:53:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu () says:

>I heard some killer material from this outfit a few weeks back and
>I can't find any material, anywhere. I checked the 'yellow book' at
>a few music stores; no luck there. Nothing in imports either.

  If this is high-energy guitarocentric jazz-rock, you're probably
looking for Tribal Tech. If it wasn't, a thousand pardons...  ;)

  Jeff

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From: mkj@sup.stollmann.de (Michael Joehnk)
Subject: Again, Etienne Schwarz Info Wanted
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 11:06:08 GMT
Organization: Stollmann GmbH, D-2000 Hamburg 50, Germany

Could it be, that I am the only one who ever heard Etienne Schwarz ?
Please go into yourself and scan your memory.....

Michael

mj@stollmann.de