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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Subject: Re: Right/left
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:58:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.185952.11785@bmers95.bnr.ca> dleung@bnr.ca (Dennis Leung) writes:

>And for all the left-handed
>hockey players there aren't that many left-handed golfers, not
>just in the pro ranks I mean at your average club. You'd think
>they were related.

One problem is that most of the world is right-handed, but not all
hockey players who shoot left are left-handed (me, for instance).  When
it comes to golf, most people tend to shoot right-handed, even if they
are left-handed.  For a couple of friends of mine, this is due to the
fact that left-handed clubs weren't available for them to borrow or
rent when they were learning.

-JPC

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From: nritchie@trentu.ca (Nicole A. Ritchie)
Subject: WNDEL CLARK AND THE LEAFS
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Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:29:00 GMT

Just wanted to thank all the people who defended Clark.
I still can't get my boyfriend to agree with me (he just called Clark an 
idiot about 2 minutes ago) but at least when I have to defend Clark against
him and his buddies I know I'm being backed up by people with some 
intelligence. 
Also, for the person who wrote in about the Leafs making it to the Cup, 
thank God I'm not the only one who thought it possible.  Most people just 
laugh at me when I start talking about them making it and it was starting 
to get really annoying.
One last thing.  Is anyone here interested in trading hockey cards?  I'm 
collecting the O-Pee-Chee set and the Upper Deck set and anyone willing to 
trade with me or buy and sell doubles, etc. e-mail me or post it here.  By 
the way, anyone who is interested, any idea how much the O-Pee-Chee Joe 
Juneau card is worth?  I haven't had the time to check out a price guide 
yet so if you know or find out, please let me know.

A die-hard Leafs fan!

Nicole
From: patrick@psych.toronto.edu (Patrick Keelan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: one-sided trades
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:03:42 GMT
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto

Most of you are probably too young to rember this one (all the details
of it even escape me, it was so long ago!), but the trade that
brought Phil Esposito to Boston was a godsend for the Bruins.
Esposito came with Fred Stanfield and I believe one other player.
Stanfield was a quality forward who played the point with Bobby
Orr on Boston's devastating power play.  Of course the key was
Esposito, who went on to a Hall of Fame career with the Bruins
and led Team Canada to victory in the 1972 Summit Series with the
Soviets.  The trade was with Chicago.  I seem to recall Pit Martin
and Gilles Marotte as two of the players who went to the Hawks, but
I could be wrong.
-Pat K.
 U. of Toronto
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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: more goalie questions
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:08:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1993Jan25.150244.3093@mtroyal.ab.ca>, caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
> In article <Jan18.005815.23772@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu writes:
> 
> > Last one: Which mask style European cage or the standard "Friday the
> > 13th eye-hole model is currently most popular with NHL goaltenders?
> 
> There are no goaltenders in the NHL today that wear the "Friday the 13th" 
> style mask. There probably hasn't been a goalie that wore a mask like that in
> the NHL for the last 10 years. It just doesn't offer enough protection. When 

     Try Mike Liut (St. Louis, Washington).  He wore the old-style mask
as late as (as far as I can remember) the 1991 Stanley Cup Playoffs (recall,
Pengins fans, this was the man who'd stopped the 1981 campaign and, in 1991,
still looked...frightening...in that mask.)

Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University
GET WELL MARIO!
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From: scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin)
Subject: Re: Aluminum hockey sticks
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:56:08 GMT

In article <gp2011-260193125517@m248-65.bgsu.edu> gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic) writes:
>In article <C1Fvwn.I26@acsu.buffalo.edu>, hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie
>S. Hammerl) wrote:
>> 
>> I realize this is a weird question, but humor me.
>> 
>> Has anyone else heard of reports of problems with aluminum stick
>> blades breaking off often?
>
>During one of our games this year, I remember one of my teammates breaking
>his blade with the first shot he took with it.  Another problem with
>aluminum sticks is that the shaft does not break.

I've seen the shafts break on aluminum sticks (see my last Hawks news :).

Seriously, it does happen, and what you end up with is a jagged edged aluminum
spear. You wanna talk about *dangerous*. Scary.

-- 
John Scholvin                         |  "My parents went to Mexico and all
scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          |   I got was this lousy foster home."
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From: daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy)
Subject: Re: Changes to the Playoff Format
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:54:23 GMT

In article <2B66F6B9.8568@news.service.uci.edu> jadler@cordelia.its.uci.edu (Jeff Adler) writes:
>The league should consider adapting a playoff schedule where the top 8 teams
>in each conference make the playoffs and then follow a 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5
>format where the two division winners are automatically granted the #1 and #2 seeds while the remaining 6 slots are filled by the teams with the best records.

Well, with that NBA guy at the helm (what's his name??) this is certainly
a possibility.  Has the NHL adopted (or are they considering) a draft lottery
yet?
-- 
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 before he leaves."  --- Sharks announcer Joe Starkey
From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Trade Rumor
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:50:48 GMT
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak Chhabra)
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS

In article <C1CAuy.Dy2@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umeitzen@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Steven Eitzen) writes:

[from Jason P. Milletary:  Selanne and Domi for Jagr; J. hates Domi]

>This will NEVER happen. Not only would Pittsburgh be getting
>the soon-to-be rookie of the year, but they would be getting
>the Jets top enforcer. Both are fan favorites. If this deal
>went through, it would only be after Mike Smith got REAL drunk.

>Take a look at the Jets' record after the trade. How many games
>have they lost? 1. One. Uno. Sorry, this rumor is just a
>no-brainer.
>-- 
>Steve Eitzen     

I have to agree, especially with the recent stuff about Jagr's attitude
problem. Why Winnipeg would want to unload their most valuable offensive threat
and instant mega-star and an extremely popular enforcer who, based on the Jets'
current streak, is doing his job _real_ well, is beyond me anyway.  If you 
consider that the return is Jagr, who's by far less valuable than Selanne, 
esp. when you take his attitude into account, the deal becomes laughable
unless you happen to like Pittsburgh.                                 

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Subject: NHL NEWS FOR 24 JANUARY 1993
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:13:01 GMT



NHL NEWS FOR 24 JANUARY 1993:


RECALLS:
--------

The NEW JERSEY DEVILS recalled left wing CLAUDE VILGRAIN from Cincinnati of
the International Hockey League and JASON MILLER, center, from Utica of the
American Hockey League, both under emergency conditions.

The WASHINGTON CAPITALS recalled center STEVE KONOWALCHUK from Baltimore of
the American Hockey League.


-JPC



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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: The Jets in the Finals?? (was: Canucks Snubbed in All-Star)
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:47:45 GMT

umoster0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sean K. Ostermann) writes:

>Well, last night the Jets did a effective job of finshing off the Chicago
>Blackhawks.  Again the refereeing was terrible.  Chris Chelios took some
>cheap shots at Teemu Selannee (Selannee knocked him on his ASS) and a fight
>started (doesn't that always happen when Chelios is involved).  Out of the
>last 12 games, the Blackhawks have been the only team to beat Winnipeg and
>the only other team with a "streak" as good as Winnipeg's. 

	Chelios is the biggest slimeball in the NHL.  When he and 
Steve Smith are on the ice together there is no greater concentration
of slime in the world (of hockey anyway).  I really don't like to say 
this, but if Chelios got cheapshotted and came to serious injury, I 
wouldn't feel bad, which is something that I cannot say about anyone
else in hockey (thank goodness).  

	Selanne's goal was a very nice in your face play.  For those
who didn't see it, Teemu had to race down the ice to get redirect the
puck into the empty net; the Hawks had pulled their goalie with the 
score 4-2 and less than a minute left.  The goal extended Selanne's
goal scoring streak to 8 games, which is by coincidence the length
of the Jets winning streak.   

>With the way
>Winnipeg is playing now, I see no reason why they shouldn't be in the
>playoffs as a SECOND place team.  But again Time will tell.  So to all the
>Vancouver fans SHUT your mouth until the season is over.  We will see how the
>standings are then.  Maybe the Canucks will be playing golf (God knows you
>get the weather for it Year round, unlike here in Winterpeg!)

	I hope the Jets get out of the Smythe and win the Stanley Cup. 
But then, you knew that already.  

Evan  
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Pat Falloon injury?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:57:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.205924.28818@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> yvon@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Yvon Lavoie) writes:
>
>Does anyone know the status of  Pat Falloon's injury?  When is he expected
>to come back?                                             

Patty has a severely separated shoulder, involving ligament damage, and is
expected to be out for the entire season, although there will be a chance that
he would be back for the final few weeks.

===============================================================================
GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
GO EDMONTON OILERS!  Go for playoffs!  Dave Manson for Norris!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: gballent@fraser.UVic.CA (Greg  Ballentine)
Subject: Re: more goalie questions
Keywords: bathgate
Reply-To: gballent@fraser.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:33:58 GMT

In article 48766@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU, smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu () writes:
>>Plante was hit flush in the face with
>>a slapshot off the stick of Andy Bathgate of the Rangers.
>
> 
>Did Bathgate have much of a career? Or is he like the pitcher who delivered
>714 to Hank Aaron, only remembered for being at the right place at the right
>time?
>
Andy Bathgate had a great career.  He is in the Hall of Fame.   

Gregmeister




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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: hall of fame
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:26:07 GMT

mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY) writes:

>In article<1993Jan18.234746.2112@sol.UVic.CA>, gballent@champlain.UVic.CA (Greg
>  Ballentine) writes:
>>
>>Which current NHL players should be inducted into the hockey hall of fame
>>based on their achievements to date.  (This means do not include Eric Lindros
>>because although he likely will post hall of fame type numbers, he hasn't
>>done so yet).
>>
>>Here is my list of future of hall of famers
>>Ray Bourque Boston Bruins
>>Paul Coffey Edmonton Oilers- Pittsburgh Penguins- Los Angeles Kings
>>Grant Fuhr Edmonton Oilers- Toronto Maple Leafs
>>Mike Gartner Washington Capitals- Minnesota North Stars- New York Rangers
>>Wayne Gretzky Edmonton Oilers- Los Angeles Kings
>>Jari Kurri Edmonton Oilers- Los Angeles Kings
>>Rod Langway Montreal Canadiens- Washington Capitals
>>Mario Lemieux Pittsburgh Penguins
>>Mark Messier Edmonton Oilers- New York Rangers
>>Patrick Roy Montreal Canadiens
>>Denis Savard Chicago Blackhawks- Montreal Canadiens
>>Peter Stastny Quebec Nordiques- New Jersey Devils
>>
>What about Pat LaFontaine-NY Islanders-Buffalo Sabres?

Also, Dale Hawerchuk (Winnipeg-Buffalo) is missing from your list.   

Evan
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL Realignment Proposed
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:43:36 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <93026.230258RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu (Robbie Po) writes:
>In article <C1HD3A.G88@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, kellerjb@sage.cc.purdue.edu
>(Jeffrey Keller) says:
>>Here is the NHL's latest realignment plan, currently under consideration:
>>*'s are next to teams who would be switching divisions and new teams:
>> ADAMS          PATRICK        NORRIS         SMYTHE
>> -------------  -------------  -------------  -------------
>> Boston        *Miami          Chicago       *Anaheim
>> Buffalo        New Jersey     Detroit        Calgary
>> Hartford       N Y Islanders  Minnesota      Edmonton
>> Montreal       N Y Rangers   *Pittsburgh     Los Angeles
>> Ottawa         Philadelphia   St. Louis      San Jose
>> Quebec        *Tampa Bay     *Winnipeg       Vancouver
>>*Toronto        Washington
>Yeah I saw this in today's USA Today and I think it's bunch of @#$%!!!
>As a season ticket holder of the Penguins, I want to see the Rangers, Devils,
>Capitals, Islanders, and Flyers 7-9 times a year.  I don't want to see the
>Blues, Blackhakws, Jets, etc.  People in Pittsburgh raised hell and threatened
>to cancel their season tickets when the Penguins sucked about 7 years back and
>wanted to move to the Norris.  Each division plays its own style of hockey.
>Put Anaheim in the Smythe and Miami in the Norris (gives that division someone
>to beat up on) is my proposal.  Leave everything else alone.


No.  Buffalo and Montreal would both love to have the Leafs in the
Adams, or whatever they plan to call the division (I've heard northern
mentioned). The rivalry that used to exist is still there, but not
what it could be.



-- 
Valerie Hammerl 	       John Sr. would lift Pat over the boards, grab 
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu       his hand, and start running around the outside,
V085PWPZ@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  faster and faster.  "I wanted to learn how to 
get that feeling, and the only way was to learn how to skate."  P. LaFontaine
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From: KOLASINSKI@FHI-Berlin.MPG.DE (Rebell ohne Schlips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: KENNY WREGGET MUST GO!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:11:38 +0100
Organization: Dynamics of Laser-Surface Interactions

In article <mXmLXB1w164w@cellar.org>, darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
> 
> Actually, if the pick acquired in the deal (Ryan Sitler?) turns out to be
> anything other than a complete bust, this could go down as one of those
> one-sided trades mentioned in the other thread.  Tocchet for Recchi? (better
> scorer and 5 years younger...)  

	Can't agree there.  I'd call this win-win.  The Flyers needed 
someone with Recchi's style and the Pens needed a hard working/hard 
hitting type like Tocchet.

>Kjell Samuelsson for (via LA) Benning? (OK,
> we'll call this part a draw...)
	Perhaps, but again it was that Kjell fit into what the Pens 
needed and Benning wouldn't have done them a bit of good.  You can't 
just analyze it on the player himself.  You have to consider the role 
he plays for the team as well.

> Wregget for Sitler?  The jury's still out,
> I guess
	Who needs a jury?  This was poor judgement because it also 
more or less lead to the departure of Pietrangelo and Young, both of 
whom are more competent.
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Kurt Wolfgeng Kolasinski
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From: vstem@grouch.calgary.chevron.com (D. Stewart McLeod)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Toronto wins the Cup (Why not?)
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:02:00 GMT
Organization: chevron

|> >Here are my reason's why...
|> >
|> >1. Gilmour Borchevsky Cullun Power play...
|> >   (actually 3 reasons)

Gilmour, okay I will give you partial points for this one.

|> >2. Best goaltending in the league. (if Grant is injured
|> >   there's always Potvin)

We could debate this for some time. Do not forget Mr. Vernon in Calgary.

|> >3. They are presently over 25 points the same time
|> >   last year.

Still fighting for a play-off spot though!!!

|> >4. Pat Burns is a proven coach

give you this one...

|> >5. They beat Montreal 2...2...2 times!!!
|> >   (please no flame from Hab fans)

Hardly a prerequisite for a cup. I would worry about Chicago, Vancouver
Calgary and Winipeg. These will be some of the teams they will have to beat
just to get to the cup.

|> >6. Best fans in the league. (cheap but gets the 
|> >   applause.)

Best devoted fans maybe. Why anyone supported them during the Ballard years
I do not know.

|> >
|> thing. If the Leafs have two or three scoring lines, with a solid defence and
|> excellant goaltending, why not! After all, we Leaf fans have to dream once in
|> a while!!
 
Leaf fans have been dreaming since '67. And will for a few more years.

-- 
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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: The slimiest team in hockey [WAS: HOUSLEY's streak .... 
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:57:11 GMT

cr292@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Schenk) writes:

>Roenick is really turning into a hacker and a cheap shot artist. Suspend him
>for 10 games!  I think he learns it from Smith and Chelios.

This in response to the news that Roenick injured Phil Housley on Tuesday.

So, the question is:  

		Are the Black Hawks the slimiest team in the NHL?  
		If not, who is?  

The Hawks do have Smith and Chelios, who are the biggest slimeballs in 
the league.  
  
Evan
From: mosscropm@woods.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Broken Puck
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:52:01 GMT
Organization: University of Lowell


	In a game that my father recently played in, a shot that he took hit
the crossbar breaking the puck into two pieces. One piece went bouncing away
while the other piece found its way into the net.
	After getting over the initial surprise of viewing such an unusual
occurance, a decision needed to be made as to whether or not it should be
counted as a goal. ( The game was not an officiated one and no referee was
present. ) After some discussion, a concensus was reached. It was not counted
as a goal since, as it turned out, the piece of the puck that went in the net
was the smaller of the two. If it had been the larger piece, it would have been
a goal.

	I was just wondering if anyone else has ever heard of or witnessed
anything similar. If so, how was it resolved? Also, does anyone know what the 
official ruling ( if one exists ) for something like this would be?

Just Curious.

Mike Mosscrop.
UMass-Lowell
mosscropm@woods.ulowell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mosscropm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: test
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:33:47 GMT

This is a test of the emergency broadcast system in your area. This is only a
test. Had this been an actual emergency, you would already be dead.
From: silver@masg1.epfl.ch (Edward Silver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Swiss Hockey Standings
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:20:50 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

League National A  (after 30 games for all teams)

   Team                  Points


1.Fribourg                 44
2.Kloten                   43
3.Berne                    38
4.Lugano                   37
5.Zoug                     33
6.Ambri                    33
7.Zurich                   25
8.Bienne                   23
9.Ajoie                    16
10.Coire                    8


League Nationale B (after 28 games for each team)

   Team                  Points

1.Davos                    38
2.Rapperswil               35
3.Herisau                  34
4.Olten                    33
5.Bulach                   33
6.Martigny                 31
7.Lausanne                 26
8.Thurgovie                23
9.Lagnau                   20
10.Lyss                     7

Keywords:
From: sglenn@cmsa.gmr.com (Scott Glenn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Wings News
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:26:26 GMT
Reply-To: sglenn@cmsa.gmr.com
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP


Bryan Murray was suspended for 10 games for the 2nd Wing leaving the    
penalty box to enter an altercation in the past 3 years as a result
of Saturday's Blues/Wings melee.
Murray appealed to the NHL, citing that the GM's voted unanimously to
change the rule so that the coaches would not be suspended; however, the
NHL Govenor's have yet to change the rule.  
Murray's suspension will begin today.  Assistant GM Doug MacLean will   
coach the Wings for the next 10 games.

The rumor that the Wings will acquire Essa Tikkanen and Dave Manson from        
the Oilers for Keith Primeau, Paul Ysebaert, Gerard Gallant, and Yves   
Racine is still very much alive.  Earlier reports hint that Primeau may  
welcome the trade to get a chance to go back to playing center with another
team and get more ice time.
At this time, the holdup seems to be Tikkanen's contract, which has 4 years
remaining and several clauses, including a $300,000 signing bonus, not yet
paid.
The Wings play the Oilers on Wednesday, and Glen Sather will likely be in
Calgary to watch the game tonight.

Bryan Murray commented on the Yzerman-Stevens rumor, saying that he was
approached by NJ GM Lou Lamerillo (sp?) who asked if Yzerman would be
available.  Murray's answer was possibly, but for Stevens and another
player.  This conversation took place during the summer, and Murray said
that he does not have any plans on trading his star-center.

Steve Chaisson will miss tonight's game with a hamstring injury...
Mark Howe is questionable with his back...Dallas Drake skated yesterday
and may play despite having a sore knee which kept him out Saturday.

-Scott



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