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From: bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG
Subject: Re: Modem hangs up shortly after CD
Reply-To:  <bruce@TotSysSoft.com> (Bruce Gingery)
Organization:  Total System Software
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:29:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.084147.1944@nioz.nl>, erwin@nioz.nl (Erwin Embsen) writes:
: > I am able to use tip to connect to the modem and to send it AT
: > commands. I am also able to dial out and connect to remote modems.
: > But when someone tries to dial-in it just hangs up shortly after
: > detecting the carrier. The CD led on the front panel lights up for
: > a few seconds and then the modem drops the connection.

And Mark Powell  <mark@lowton.rn.com> replies...
 
: The modems are probably establishing a mutually agreeable carrier, but
: are probably having problems with error control or data compression
: negotiation. Well that's what happens with mine when I call one of
: my feed site's modems. I had to disable my HST DS v32bis' LAPM detection
: phase. This causes it to assume the other modem is using LAPM. The other
: is and this works for me. 
: 
: BTW to do this on the HST DS v32bis set s27=49 (I don't know if this
:     means anything to you :)

  What I'd check first is the setups.  For example MOST (even older) MNP
capable modems may be set to reject a non-error-correcting link.  It is
possible that you're sending setup strings when dialing out, and reverting
to different settings for incoming calls.

   If you have a neighbor (local modem user) with which to test... Try dialing
in REVERSE mode (append an R to your dialstring) with the distant end pre-
arranged to pick up and manually answer with ATX3D, or similar originate-
mode answer.  This, at least, should give a pretty easy way to confirm your
capacity to connect to an incoming call.  From there, look to setups.

   As for register/AT-letter settings, this depends upon the modem.  I have
one older modem which has answer defaults (``Reliable forced/reliable ignored
/reliable initiated'') set in an S register, but uses the ``N'' dial string
suffix, (or M, as I recall for forced) to override this on outgoing calls.
Others on hand, also recognize (or tolerate) the ``N'' in the dialstring,
but use different S-registers, and add alphabets preceeded by ``\'',
``%'', ``-'', a *H, and even ``)M'', plus ``"H'', and ``"O''.

Hope this helps.

Bruce
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: CLASS 1&2, T.4, T.etc CCITT @#$@#!!!
From: eputnam@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:43:44 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

> 
> I pay 26% taxes to the government.  If the CCITT, and ANSI are not
> part of the gov, then fine.  If this is a private hoopla, fine.
> But I don't think so.  So. I WANT MY DOCS NOW!
> $200! Thats .. 800 cups of coffee, or 67 medium size pizzas from 
                                        ^^
> Little Cesars, or 400 Snickers.  or even better thats 2 four meg
> SIMMs!  I don't have that kind of money laying around!
> 

Just how do you buy an odd number of pizzas at Little Cesars?

> 
> p.s.: Flames are more then welcome.  I will just ignore them.<g>
> 
> p.s.s.: Wow.  _THAT_ felt great.. Almost as good as ...

That 68th pizza?

> -- 
> TAPOLYAI, Gergely                al045@cleveland.freenet.edu
>                                  Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: v.fast
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:22:16 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <VPTHqB2w164w@uuisis.isis.org>, evanc@uuisis.isis.org
(Evan Champion) writes: 

> So, what is the deal with v.fast?  Does anyone have pre-release specs or 
> something of the sort?

There ARE NO PRE-RELEASE SPECS.  The current level of consensus in 
the committee is quite small; we can just barely agree on the data 
rates, much less symbol rates, modulation schemes, startup 
procedures, secondary channel implementations, etc. etc. etc.  There 
is another meeting at the end of this month in Bath, England, at 
which we hope to make some progress, but the fact remains that 
V.fast is still quite undefined.  Anything you see on the market 
today claiming to be "V.fast" is really just another proprietary 
high-speed modulation scheme, since there isn't even the beginning 
of a standard yet (just a lot of proposals on the table).

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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ?'s about Class 1 & Class 2 fax
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:53:13 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Aug29.125132.592@technix.mn.org>, jfw@technix.mn.org
(Jerry Wallace) writes: 

>>You're right that Class 2 is not yet finalized.  TIA TR-29 just a 
>>couple of weeks ago agreed to send it out for a final, 30-day letter 
>>ballot, after which it will be either adopted as TIA-592 or (I
>>predict) abandoned if it doesn't pass.  The modems on the market
>           ^^^^^^^^^
> How does this impact the final ratification of a standard?   Being
> somewhat pessimistic, this sounds like a setback.

Nothing pessimistic about it, just the truth.  If the standard 
doesn't pass this time, there won't be one (for Class 2).  The 
revision and extension of Class 1 is proceeding very nicely, though, 
and I think it will ultimately be a better solution anyway.  But I'm 
not giving up on Class 2 yet; the last rumor I heard is that the 
companies that voted "no" last time will vote favorably or abstain 
this time, so it may pass.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: lehtonen@krk.fi (Antti Lehtonen)
Subject: USR Part numbers -HELP-
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:06:29 GMT

I need USR part numbers for all models that includes 16.8 HST.
Or the number to USR bbs or somewere that can give me those
numbers. What kind of cps you get with 16.8 HST ?? Tnx u.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Compatibility between vendors
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 04:58:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun) writes:
: Finally, how do I determine whether the telephone line quality is a problem,
: in terms simple enough for our PBX folks to comprehend and negotiate with
: Ma Bell?

Here is how I do it:

+++
OK
ATSQ
7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
OK

The above values are taken six times a second and indicate the highest
possible signal line quality rating from a Scout+. So this line will
allow 14,400 bps connects.

+++
OK
ATSQ
666666666666666655555656665666666666656566666565656666666656566666666666666
666665655656565654656565656464656566565666666666666666666666666666666666666
OK

This line will also allow 14,400 connects, but its somewhat harder. On
Scout+ connections some modems will cause frequent retrains. If you dont
like retrains, you can use AT*Q0, which will give stable connects,
unless, of course, the line quality kinks down even more. In that case
you use AT*Q2 or AT*Q3 to allow the modems some flexibility to negotiate
lower DCE speeds and in case of AT*Q3 even allow them to disconnect in
the case no data can be exchanged after renegotiation.


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   _________________________________________________________________________
   Wolfgang Henke        wolfgang@henke.sf-bay.org       wolfgang@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: swartz@fraser.sfu.ca (Norman Swartz)
Subject: Radio pickup in modem
Summary: Modem acts like miniature radio receiver
Keywords: radio, interference, RFI, modem, Anchor, Patriot
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:32:29 GMT

     Is Anchor Automation, in Chatsworth California, still in
business?  I have written to them twice, but received no reply.

     I am currently using their Patriot 2400i internal modem.
Occasionally this modem acts like a miniature radio receiver.
Although the modem quietly emits voices and music, this
irritating behavior does not seem otherwise to disrupt the modem.
Even so, I would like to silence the modem.

     I have tried wrapping the RJ-11 connecting cord (ten turns)
through a large ferrite core.  This trick may have helped
somewhat, but has not by any means solved the problem.

     I am handy with a soldering iron and am prepared to make
hardware modifications to the modem if someone can tell me how.
Would soldering small capacitors from each of the input leads to
ground on the printed circuit board help?  If so, what values
should I use for these capacitors?  Would breaking the leads and
inserting RF chokes help?  Again, what values?  Should I use a
combination of capacitors and chokes?  (Sorry I don't know the
input impedance of the modem.)

     Is modifying a modem in this manner legal in Canada?

     Any help would be most welcome.

     I notice that other persons who post messages to the Net
standardly include a disclaimer.  Although this seems to me to be
an obsessive precaution, I will follow suit and declare that any
opinions expressed in this posting are my own (and my children's)
and not those of my employer.  (Can you really imagine that my
employer has a [corporate] opinion as to whether my modem acts
like a miniature radio receiver?)
=================================================================
Norman Swartz, Simon Fraser University,
Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6

e-mail (via Internet): norman_swartz@sfu.ca
e-mail (via Bitnet):   swartz@sfuvax
fax: (604)-291-4455
=================================================================
From: Paul.Conaway@p22.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Conaway)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Modem won't work: lights flash, but it doesn't do anything
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:42:07 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.22 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

On 8/11/92, Kelly Schwarzhoff writes: 

  KS> From: kellys@iat.holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff) Newsgroups:
  KS> comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.dcom.modems Organization: HoloNet (BBS:
  KS> 510-704-1058)
  KS> 
  KS> I have a Mac II and my modem(s) are not working. To be more specific,
  KS> from within a term program I can type ATDT<number>, and the lights
  KS> flash on the modem, but nothing happens.  I have an Avatex 2400 modem
  KS> and an Abbaton 12/48 Faxmodem and neither work.  Using the Abatton,
  KS> the term program displays the text; using the Avatex, it does not.
  KS> 
  KS> I tried using multiple programs (MP II, FirstClass Client, and a
  KS> variety of other ones), multiple cables (exchanging the cables in
  KS> between the Avatex and Abaton), tried both the modem and printer port,
  KS> used a different phone jack, and I tried restoring the settings (I
  KS> tried both ATZ and AT&F).
  KS> 
  KS> They were both working before.  However, I left for vacation, and some
  KS> of my relatives decided to use the Mac, and I come back and this is
  KS> what I've got.
  KS> 
  KS> It's strange.  It's obvious that the modems are receiving the
  KS> messages, but they don't do anything.  I type AT<CR> and I get no OK
  KS> like normal; I type ATS0=1 and the AA (auto answer) light does not
  KS> turn on. --
  KS>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  KS> Kelly Schwarzhoff Internet: kellys@orac.holonet.net   Fidonet:
  KS> 1:161/445.0
  KS>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  KS> --
  KS>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  KS> Kelly Schwarzhoff Internet: kellys@orac.holonet.net   Fidonet:
  KS> 1:161/445.0
 
Kelly, it looks like your serial ports have been fried! I would have your mac
checked out at a local Apple service center.

Paul

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: hope@huracan.cr (Theodore Hope)
Subject: Re: UNIX based Tone Recognition System?
Organization: Proyecto Huracan - Fundacion Nahual / San Jose, Costa Rica
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:09:52 CAM

In article <l983gbINN67f@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Schiavi) writes:

>    I would like to hear about any products or boards that implement 
>    a menu based front end system that works via tones entered from 
>    a phone call. Basically, one in which someone calls, gets a greeting
>    and some options, works through the menu by entering digits on
>    their phone to select certain data.  

Brooktrout makes cards that do that kind of thing, and software to develop
applications under Unix, DOS, others(?).  Write to David Duehren
(dwd@brooktrout.com) for more info.

 -Ted
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Help with TWINCOM 14.4K Init PLEASE!
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:02:34 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

Can anybody help me with setting up a TWINCOM 14.4DF External with Binkl?
I will be using it to run the BBS program (TAGBBS).  What I need is a good
reccommended init string.  The TWINCOM is 14.4K V32, V32bis, V42, V42bis.
I tried a simple init string as listed in the manual, connected somewhere at
9600 baud, however the data throughput I got was only about 256 characters.
That isn't even 9600 speed transfer I would think.
lairdpg@lub001.lama.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: What's a good 14400 modem?? (Intel?)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:57:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.092633.176853@zeus.calpoly.edu>, etsiao@joule (Eddie Tsiao) writes:
> 
> Sorry.  This is not exactly the right part of the thread to post to but I too
> am looking for a good 14.4k modem.  I've read good and bad things about Supra
> but most of the past reports on the Zoom have been bad.  It seems that Zoom's
> reputation is improving.  I would like to find out more about Intel and Dallas
> Fax (or Atel?).  I am swaying toward Intel because of the smart buffering.  
> Since I will be working mostly in windows or another multitasking enviornment,
> a large data buffer is a big concern.  Any experiences, good or bad?
> Thanks.


I tested a pair of Intel 14.4EX modems with SLIP.  I was unable to move
more than 1800 Bytes/sec through them, compared to > 3000 for all other
v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis modems I tested, some of which did > 3600 B/s.
Judging from the LED's, the Intel 14.EX cannot transmit at the same
time as it it receives.  That is implausible, but it would explain the
less than amazing speed.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra Roms???
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:22:03 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <19919@plains.NoDak.edu> myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:
> 
>   Hi.  I would like to know how to open up a Supra 1.4k Fax/Modem external
> to determine which ROM it contains.  There seem to be only two screws on the 
> bottom but when I removed them nothing would come undone.  I don't know if I
> need to use a little more force, but I would rather get some info before I
> do that.  Thanks

That's all there is. Just undo the two screws and carefully snap off the front
and back panels. You can slide out the PCB then. But to determine the rom version
you could also use ATI3 in yours comms package. :-) 

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL: Firmware 5.00 soon across FTP...
From: Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:12:21 GMT
Organization: Sideways Bulletin Board, Lower Hutt, New Zealand

louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) in <1992Aug30.144630.388@ni.umd.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.005232.39989@camb.com> bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce)
>  writes:
>
> >ZyXEL's enthusiastic customer base is partly due to the user sponsored
> >FTP sites, etc, and I trust 0/1 is savy enough not to kill off a very good 
> >thing that is supporting them.
> 
> Oh, please.  I suspect that the vast majority of people that get the
> modem firmware and burn their own ROMs spend the few dollars to call
> the 01 BBS at +1-714-693-0762.  If you can afford to buy an EPROM 
> programmer and extra ROMs call the silly BBS and get it right from
> the source.

I agree with Barton, having the roms available on ftp sites does
encourage people to buy the ZyXEL modem.  I'm getting the ZyXEL (instead
of Supra) modem because of the roms being available over Internet. For
me the ZyXEL BBS is an international toll call which is expensive, a
call for a rom upgrade isn't worth it, but ftp is free.

0/1 could be a little more constructive, perhaps organize a private
login to an ftp site and give passwords out to approved beta testers.
His(?) current "you're not allowed to do that" stance is only going to
drive the distribution of the roms underground.
From: kevin.fong@uttsbbs.uucp (Kevin Fong) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ANY COMMENTS ON THE USR S
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:27:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: kevin.fong@uttsbbs.uucp (Kevin Fong) 

In a previous message, <john.navas@uttsbbs.uucp> responds to a
message:

-> > Any other comments positive or not about the USR will be welcome.

-> It's a terrific product!

Without starting a flame here, I must forewarn you of my terrible
experience with USRobotics...

I am a sysop of a BBS, and ordered a USR modem directly from USR back in
June of either 1990 or 1991.  Keeping a long story short, I never got
any replies or communications from USR for SIX months... They never
returned calls, etc...  Finally, six months later, I got a FedEx
delivery stub left on my door, saying I had a package from USR, and that
money was due.  Well, needless to say, I now have a Hayes and PPI modem
instead, and am happy with both (although I did have some problems with
PPI support also, but not half as bad as USR).

So be warned... USR may have a good product, but good luck if you need
customer support!

Kevin
Internet:  sysop@uttsbbs.uucp
                                                                                      
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.fax,de.comm.misc
From: phg@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Subject: Re: Highspeed US Robotics modem with fax send/receive ?
Organization: Digital Island
Distribution: de,world
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 12:57:49 GMT

(sorry to german readers - org thread crossposted to comp.xxx)

mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell) writes:
>> have a look on the Sportster 14400 FAX, which is a V.32bis datamodem with
>> MNP and V.42bis. It is much cheaper than the Courier and has not all of
>> the functions (leased-line, synchronus operations, ASL) the courier has.

>You pay for what you get. Some of the Couriers features are unnecessary 
>for general use. However, I'd take a Courier over a cheap v32bis and day.
>Their is no question about it, they are more reliable. They connect better,
>hold the line better, have higher throughput, lower latency, etc. etc.
...
>It is false economy to by a cheapo v32bis. 

I agree. But one should mention that the Sportster 14400 comes from USR too,
so I expect it to have the same high quality while the advanced features
(leased line etc.) have been omitted to make the price more attractive.

regards, Bjoern
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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: T.30 & T.4 CCITT Standards
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:06:38 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Aug25.055106.29736@sdf.lonestar.org>,
mo@sdf.lonestar.org (Mohit Goyal) writes: 

> Hello.  Can anyone tell me what the T.30 and T.4 CCITT standards 
> do/are used for?  All I know is that they are used in faxmodems.

T.4 is entitled "Standardization of Group 3 Facsimile Apparatus for 
Document Transmission".  It defines how an image is encoded for 
transmission, including the scannable area, vertical and horizontal 
resolutions, compression methods, etc.

T.30 is entitled "Procedures for Document Facsimile Transmission in 
the General Switched Telephone Network". It describes the procedures 
and protocols that fax devices use to negotiate the capabilities 
they have and the operations to be performed in order to accomplish 
the exchange of T.4-encoded documents.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: For Sale:  9600 v.32/v.42bis fax modem
Reply-To: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:57:58 GMT

Neuron 9600 fax/modem (manufactured by Digicom). Originally sold for  
use by NeXT computers, but it's a nice uucp workhorse for any type of  
system. It may need a rom change for the fax capability to work on  
non-NeXT systems, or possibly not - I don't have the ability to test  
this out. (If anyone knows more about this, perhaps you could clue me  
in. :-)

The unit is approximately 10 months old.  $300, including shipping  
within the US. For additional information, send e-mail. 

John Bartley
john@wpa.com