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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: eeprom bootdev (Sun 3/60, Sunos 4.1.1)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:35:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Dec19.020607.24753@mlfarm.com>
ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence) writes:

|  One of our Sun 3/60s developed a bad simm in the first 4mb of memory.
|  [...] do not have the hardware manuals for this machine.  Is there another
|  way to reset the bootdev from its current setting of (0,0,0) so the
|  machine will auto-boot off the ethernet?  Thanks.

Assuming your boot EPROM (the 27C512) is version 1.6, 1.9 or 3.0.1, then
the following will work once you're in the ROM monitor (either by having
done a "halt" from SunOS or by L1-A during the initial powerup):

you want to set the EEPROM location 0x18 to be 0x12 (to force the EEPROM
specified boot device), and locations 0x19 thru 0x1D to be the "name" of
the boot device.

Thus, for "le(0,0,0)" the EEPROM contents should be:

	0x18/ 0x12
	0x19/ 0x6C       ASCII code for "l"
	0x1A/ 0x65       ASCII code for "e"
	0x1B/ 0
	0x1C/ 0
	0x1D/ 0

Though the following example might not precisely mimic the actual dialog,
the commands are correct (from the boot ROM) (where "XX" means whatever the
current value is):

>q 18
18  XX  12
19  XX  6C
1A  XX  65
1B  XX  0
1C  XX  0
1D  XX  0
1E  XX  (now type a space and a RETURN), then "k 2" for a full reset and boot

You will type the new values (above) immediately followed by a RETURN to
advance to the next EEPROM location.

I just did this for some 20+ 3/60 converted to be Xterminals (with Xkernel)
and it works just fine.


Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.databases.informix,comp.admin.policy
From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall)
Subject: Re: Database directed system administration ??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:31:49 GMT

krienke@infko.uni-koblenz.de litauer@infko.uni-koblenz.de writes:
}We are looking for a database based system for (unix-) workstation 
}administration. 
}Using this databasesystem we want eg. to be able to add new users to our
}system, or new workstations to our net. 
}The modification of the data contained in the database schould then trigger
}the appropriate actions.
}Does anyone know about such a system, or has anyone experience with such a
}database ?

"Moira" from MIT's Project Athena
        (if you are into free software needing lots of work)
"Moira" from DEC's DECathena product
        (if you are into spending lots of dollars)

We use a *much* modified (maybe 10% original remains) MIT moira,
it does wonders for us.   But... well, the polite way to say this is --
MIT's ideas are a lot better than their code -- it does take some babysitting.
We have the DECathena here as part of a deal to move some of our features
into the product, but I am not working on that part.   (Sorry, because of
our deal with DEC we can not give out our additions to moira.)

John
-- 
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Systems Software Engineer
Project Vincent
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: Sun vs. Solbourne console speed
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:24:52 GMT

In <15864@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:

>OK.  The *why* is that, as I understand it, they fucked up and forgot to
>make the interpreter cacheable.

It appears that console speed has always been slow (even in the Sun-3
series) and has gotten worse over the years.  I don't know of any
workstation in the Sun-3 and Sun-4 series with a console fast enough
for use without a windowing system.  The 3/50 and 3/60 are decent but
their windowing systems are still much faster than the raw console.  So
a single design bug doesn't explain it.

Also, there is no reason why the Forth interpreter must drive the
console after booting.  There could be an optional driver in /vmunix,
and it could be made a configuration option.

So I think the slow console is not due to accident, but due to design.
Which still leaves the question of:  Why?
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@cirrus.com>
also: dhesi@rahul.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: yooho@ursula.ic.cmc.ca (Yoo Ho Cho)
Subject: Logical volumes / Physical disks
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:05:36 GMT


Hello,

Some time ago, I saw some announcement of a software product that will
allow you to combine several physical disks ( or disk partitions ) into 
a single logical drive. Can anyone point out what this product is ?

Thanks

Y.H. Cho

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: SPARCclassic and SunOS 4.1.x
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:36:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.231742.22681@PacBell.COM> tlhouns@ns.pacbell.com (Lee Hounshell) writes:
>Randy Crawford (crawford@boole.mitre.org) wrote:
>: In article <1992Dec15.032727.936@ra.msstate.edu> fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters) writes:
>: >The "comes without a C compiler" is, at this point, basically moot.
>
>Ok.. so you can get a compiler from GNU.
>But what about all the other development support tools, like:

    Would you folks mind editing your Newsgroups line so as to remove
    misc.forsale.computers.workstation when you reply to this thread?
    Thank you.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: SPARCclassic and SunOS 4.1.x
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:37:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.025444.6223@zip.eecs.umich.edu> gilgalad@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes:
>
>I use RCS all the time. Works great.  Better (IMHO) than SCCS in many
>respects.  gdb  there is an X interface to debuggers (contrib client
>I think).

    Would you mind not posting this to misc.forsale.computers.workstation?
    Thank you.

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From: thomas@plxsun (Thomas Leibold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: help with xdm -- pleeeeeeease...
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:54:43 GMT
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeremy Payne (jrpg8255@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
:   I've been pulling my hair out for some time now trying to get
: xdm to work using SunOS 4.1.1 & openwindows 2.0.  I can get it
: installed etc., but logging in results in a gadget-less xterm
: in the upper corner and nothing else -- not what I had in mind.

You are actually getting further than we did with Sun's xdm. On our system
it's replaced with the MIT X11R4 xdm.
It sounds as if you don't start a window manager for your session. Unless you
use a X-terminal with buildin window manager, you need to run a  window manager.
Your Xsession file should start a window manager for you, if you don't have
a .xsession file in your $HOME-directory. If you have a .xsession file put
the command to start the window manager there. For openwindows this is:
	olwm &
You may have other window managers available on your system too. 

Thomas

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:9392 comp.unix.shell:5049
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Aren't SunOS 4.1.2 and Solaris 2.1 compatible?
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:36:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>What's changed?  The system calls are numbered differently.  The errnos
>are numbered differently.

And some signal numbers and flags to system calls are different, and
"ttyslot()" has to scan "/etc/utmp" rather than "/etc/ttytab", and....

No, "ttyslot()" isn't a "system call".  It's a library routine; the BCP
could (and may) still provide binary compatibility, as it only supports
images dynamically linked with "libc", and a dynamically-linked image
gets "ttyslot()" from the shared library, rather than from code in the
image, so it can get a different version when run under 5.x than when
run under 4.x (or, in fact, can get different versions when run under
5.y than when run under 5.x, or can get different versions when run
under 4.y than when run under 4.x, for that matter).

>The executable header format is no longer
>a.out, but something different (I'm not sure, but I think it's COFF).

No, it's ELF.  COFF is the pre-SVR4 SV executable/object file format;
ELF is the SVR4 one.

>Caveats: BCP can do the right thing if the 1.x program behaves itself.
>That means that it must have been linked dynamically instead of statically,
>and must not make any references to kvm or kmem.

And should not try to manipulate any files that 1) changed their
location (without a symlink being planted) or their format and 2) don't
have their format and location hidden behind a procedure in "libc".
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From: wilko@russia.idca.tds.philips.nl (Wilko Bulte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Increasing the buffer cache: how?
Date: 19 Dec 92 11:20:55 GMT

I am currently trying to convince a Sun2 running Sunos 3.5 that it should
use more memory for the buffercache. Using adb, I have changed the nbuf
paramater in /vmunix.

This works insofar that the boot message indicates the new value. What
I don't understand is that the # of bytes reported as being used by the
buffer cache does not change. 

Eg a value of 64 in nbuf gives the same # of bytes as 112 in nbuf (both
using 575488 bytes).

This is something I don't understand. In SysV NBUF gives the number of
buffers, and each buffer has the same size as the disk block used on 
the particular filesystem type. A different parameter NHBUF gives the
number of hashbuffers.

Maybe this has something to do with the BSD filesys?

Please help to solve my ignorance ;-)

Wilko

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: gord%jericho.uucp (Gord Wait)
Subject: lpd status/error messages missing
Organization: S-MOS Systems, Inc. (Vancouver Design Center)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:40:54 GMT


We used to get printer status/error messages on our console from
both our postscript printers attached to serial ports on our 4/330
server. (ie out of paper, bad postscript messages etc). One day, they
disappeared, and I have never been able to get them back again. The
message data comes from reading the serial port to get the serial
output from the printer. The manual says that lpd hands over status to
syslogd by default. I have tried lpd -L logfile, and a number of other
tricks. I managed one day to get a log file by using cat /dev/ttyc >
logfile, but this seems to blow up the print spooler. Why won't lpd
deliver the postscript messages!!

Any ideas?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: phil@pex.eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre)
Subject: Re: /bin/passwd modifications
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:19:03 GMT

In article <GERD.92Dec6181312@kim.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> gerd@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gerd Neugebauer) writes:
>
>In article <9234012.6911@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer) writes:
>
>[...]
>
>CB> I want to disable the -s option on passwd (to stop users 
>CB> altering their login shells).  I'm not sure if this is
>CB> the best way to do it, but ...
>
>[Ideas about hacking around deleted]
>
>CB> or is there a better way?
>
>Yes there is!
>
>Just modify the file /etc/shells to contain approved shells. If it
>contains only one shell nobody (except root) is able to change the
>shell. See also  passwd(1)

Be aware: any user who does not have a shell listed in /etc/shells
will not be able to do an FTP login.  That is, they will not be
able to connect to the machine's FTP server and use it with their
username and password.  This will not be a problem if everyone is
forced to use the shell that is the only one listed in /etc/shells.

By the way, I personally see nothing wrong with letting users change
their login shells, as long as it is one of the shells listed in
/etc/shells.  My /etc/shells contains sh, csh, tcsh, and bash....

		William LeFebvre
		Computing Facilities Manager and Analyst
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:52:48 -0500 
From: "Derrick J. Brashear" <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: tunefs on /usr
	<193@svb.guug.de>

I booted miniroot from the tapes and then did the following:
mkdir /u
echo "/dev/sd1a (or whatever you use as /usr) /u 4.2 rw 1 1" > /etc/fstab
mount /u
cp /u/etc/tunefs /
umount /u
tunefs /dev/sd1a -m 2%
(or whatever the syntax is)
and then rebooted, to get like 4 megs more free space:-)


-D
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: SPARCclassic and SunOS 4.1.x
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:38:18 GMT

In <1992Dec21.035502.13754@netcom.com> marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis) writes:

>In article <1go470INNsl7@male.EBay.Sun.COM> elkinbar@filly.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Elkinbard) writes:
>>
>>> 
>>> [...] (deleted stuff not about 4.1.x on a Sparcclassic

>Ahem... If I read the 'Subject:' line correctly this thread was not about
>the de/merits of any particular OS.  Doesn't anyone bother to update
>their subject headers in this newsgroup?

>My question is: 

>------>   HAS ANYONE TRIED TO INSTALL 4.1.x ON A SPARCCLASSIC?   <------

As Per sez:

>From comp.sys.sun.hardware Sun Dec 20 20:37:49 1992
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
>Path: qualcom.qualcomm.com!walter!uunet!mcsun!sunic!nobeltech!ppan
>From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
>Subject: Re: SPARCclassic and SunOS 4.1.x
>Message-ID: <1992Dec17.172019.6869@nobeltech.se>
>Organization: NobelTech AB
>References: <8457@btr.BTR.COM>
>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:20:19 GMT
>Lines: 19
>
>In article <8457@btr.BTR.COM> bfong@btr.btr.com (B Fong) writes:
>>
>>Can someone verify (positively) if the SPARCclassic will run SunOS 4.1.x?
>>
>>Does anyone know this for sure?  That is, actually installed one?
>
>No it won't run 4.1.3. Not only because SUN says so, but it gives a
>'data exception' when starting the generic 4m kernel after booting off
>the 4.1.3 CD. It runs the boot program OK though, both from CD and from
>network.
>
>Now 2.1 is on its way onto the disk .....
>
>/Per
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So someone *has* actually tried it...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: larry@shark.mitra.com (Larry Williamson)
Subject: Re: how to force readers to read a system message?
Organization: Mitra Imaging Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:37:09 GMT

You can lead a horse to water...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: RADOCAJ@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Ante Radocaj)
Subject: scripts
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:39:48 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25

Hi

Can someone tell me how to write a script, which executes a program requireing
input, without redirecting the input. Something like a VMS batchjob with lines 
not begining with $.

The problem is I have to vary the input to the program, which could be made
nicely with variables.


Thank you for your help


Ante


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From: aad@siemens.com. (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: eeprom bootdev (Sun 3/60, Sunos 4.1.1)
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:26:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Distribution: comp
Organization: Siemens Corp. Res., Inc.

>But, when the machine came up, it did not auto-boot from the ethernet,
>and reported that ' ' was a bad boot device.

You hit the diag switch somewhere along the line.  Look on the back of the
machine and flip the "norm/diag" switch back to norm.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: rich_b@sn4402.oldham.gpsemi.com (Richard Bogusz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Need archiving solution for Sun/HP Unix systems
Keywords: Archive
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:02:46 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors

Hi people

Can anyone out there recommend an archiving solution that could be shared
by Suns running SunOS, HP's running HP-UX and Vaxes running VMS?

Currently we are looking at purchasing an archiving system based around
WORM drives in a jukebox configuration, attached to a Vax running VMS 5.4.
The intention is that the Suns and HP's will access the worm drives via an
NFS server running on the Vax and some software provided by a third party
which copies the data to the NFS mounted worm drive.

The intention is that this system will be put in place on four sites in the UK
which all have a mix of Vax and Sun hardware, plus some HP kit.

The software has proved very fragile to say the least, added to this the
amount of data being created on the Unix systems is slowly eclipsing that of
the Vax systems.  The result is that more people are questioning the wisdom
of proceeding with the current plan, but there do not appear to be too many
alternatives that would please all parties.  Has anyone got any suggestions/experiences that they could pass on?  Please e-mail direct if 
possible, thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Cheers

Richard
suggestions/experiencesmn


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mp@allegra.att.com (Mark Plotnick)
Subject: how to shut down NFS on a running system?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:51:48 GMT

Some people here have 2 Sparcstation-2's, normally on our lab-wide
ethernet, that they want to occasionally be on a "private net" to
maximize the transfer rate between them.

There are no unused Sbus slots in which to add additional ethernet
cards, and they can't use an Sbus expansion chassis because the cards
in the SS-2's won't work in them.  So, the 2 systems are plugged into a
twisted-pair ethernet hub that they can put into local mode to block
out the outside net, and they've asked me to write a command (that does
NOT involve rebooting anything) to shut down and start up the
appropriate services.

I'm looking for advice on how to shut down the NFS services.  These
systems are NFS clients (using the automounter), and one of them is an
NFS server to about 5 other systems elsewhere on the net.  I need to
find a way to unmount filesystems even when they're in use, since all
sorts of things (such as any command that uses getwd) break when a
server of a mounted filesystem is inaccessible.

Any ideas?

	Mark Plotnick
	mp@allegra.att.com
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From: venkat@metrix.UUCP (Venkat Rangan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: specifying the number of blocks for streams module.
Keywords: mblks, dblks, streams
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:22:41 GMT
Organization: Metrix Network Systems, Nashua, NH

We have a an application that uses the STREAMS NIT buffering module, nit_buf.
We only use the read-side of the device.  Occasionally, we get

xdbmalloc: out of mblks

or

xdbmalloc: out of dblks

on the console and the system hangs.

If we observe the streams allocation through netstat -m, 

streams allocation:
                                         cumulative  allocation
                      current   maximum       total    failures
streams                    11        13          57           0
queues                     40        43         211           0
mblks                     676      1372     1836310           0
dblks                     676      1372     1415457           0

The current amd maximum for mblks and dblks increase to about 100,000
at which point the system hangs.

I am seeing this behavior in versions Sun OS 4.0.3 to 4.1.3

Is there a way to specify the maximum number of mblks and dblks allocated for
a stream head?  This will atleast prevent us from allocating so many
mblks or dblks that we hang the system.

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

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