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From: Steve@newsbase.cs.yale.edu (Steve Morytko)
Subject: Car Rental - Seattle
Organization: University of Connecticut Computing Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:01:19 GMT

Looking for a compact car to rent from Seattle Airport. I need 
unlimited mileage, 16-18 days, cheap as possible. Any recommendations?
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: International House (Re: NYC Youth Hostel) ... new info
Summary: International House, graduate dormitory, by Columbia U.
Keywords: Youth Hostel Accomodation reservation
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:45:19 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)


beenen@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Ulrich Beenen) writes:
>
>Speaking to all travellers, which were recently in NYC in the Youth 
>Hostel and maybe ppl from NYC:
>
>Does anyone of you know about this Youth hostel and if so how about 
>reservations there ?? Is 2 days in adanve sufficient ?

An alternative to the YMCA and the new IYH on Amsterdam Avenue is The
International House, a graduate dormitory run by a private foundation.
It's on the Upper West Side, right next door to Columbia University
with easy access to subways (and I live there).

For short term stays, the rate is $25/night but the arrangements are
very spartan (I don't know if the YMCA is air-conditioned (we're not);
that's very important for summer here!).  Deluxe rooms are available
at ~$60-80/night, with air conditioning, cable television and private
bathroom.  A $50 damage deposit (refundable at check-out) is required.

Be sure to specify that you are looking for short-term housing and
include dates in your request.  There are long-term rates, by the
month.  Summer session is May 11 - August 22, 1992.

As for YMCA, I don't think there would be problems with the Vanderbilt
YMCA on the East Side or with the new Int'l Youth Hostel on Amsterdam
Avenue.

The address for International House of New York is:

	Admissions Office
	International House
	500 Riverside Drive
	New York, New York
	USA	10027-3916

	(212) 316-8436
	FAX: 212-316-1827

	(212) 316-8400 (central switchboard)

Oh yeah ... cash or travellers' cheques only.  American Express is
accepted for the deluxe rooms; otherwise ... No credit cards.
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Organization: Doctoral student, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:51:22 -0400 
From: Rudi Stouffs <rs6y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Central America - Rainy Season?

Excerpts from netnews.rec.travel: 20-Jul-92 Central America - Rainy
Sea.. muckenhoupt@zodiac.rutge (705)

> I am trying to decide whether to throw caution to the wind and travel to
> Belize in the middle of August, BUT I'm not sure if the wind will follow me.

> What does THE RAINY SEASON mean?  I've been in Manila during the Typhoon
> season, and waded through streets knee-high with water while another storm
> thundered overhead; I don't wish to repeat the experience.  Does "rainy
> season" mean rain every afternoon at 4:00, or downpours for days on end?
> I have two weeks, and I'd like to both head for the Cays and perhaps trek 
> around the rainforest a bit.  Will the trails wash out?  Will storms keep
> all boats from launching?  How much will my life *probably* be affected?


> mm    muckenhoupt@pisces.rutgers.edu


You don't have to worry about the rainy season, rain every afternoon at
4:00 is probably the best description. The resulting humidity is the
worst element in the rainy season in my opinion.

Rudi Stouffs
From: newton@convex.com (Vicki Newton)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Campgrounds in the USA, other than KOA?
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:59:53 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

rcronh@wsres1.info.win.tuesday.nl (Ron Helwig) asks:

>> In August, I will be traveling with a motorhome through parts of 
>> California, Arizona, Utah and Nevada.
...
>> Because I don't want to plan my vacation from KOA to KOA campground

smart choice!

>>         - Can someone tell me about other campgrounds? 

i highly recommend that you plan all your campgrounds around the
national parks of the u.s.  these are going to be the best sights
and sites of the country.

>>         - How do I obtain information about them?

you can contact each park directly, many of the nps campgrounds have
a reservation system available through ticketron.  you might be able to
just contact the south west regional office of the national park service,
i believe they are in phoenix.

based on the states that you mentioned, i would suggest the following.

Utah:  an absolute must is _arches national park_ in moab, 
       from there you could easily get to canyonlands n.p. and
       then on to bryce n.p. and zion n.p. 

Nevada: there is a new national park, i think it is called basin and range
       (can someone verify?)...i am not that familiar with nevada so that's
       the only one i know about.

Californy: yosemite n.p., then scoot over and check out san francisco,
       the drive down the coast a bit before you head over to kings
       canyon n.p. and sequoia n.p. (gotta see those trees).

and finally, my favorite...

Arizony: *the* canyon, grand canyon, is amazing.  get to the north rim if you
       can.

also, if you sneak Colorado in there, you could see mesa verde n.p., it is
in that general four-corners region where AZ, UT, NM, and CO come together.
beautiful country, some of the best in the u.s.!!!!!!

enjoy,
veek
From: prking@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Peter King)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: AMTRAK On-time-liness?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:18:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

What sort of experience do folks have with AMTRAK's punctuality performance?
Especially on their long distance trains. I would be particluarly
interested in knowing if anybody has any experience with the
eastbound Empire Builder -- it is usually on-time as it crosses
Wisconsin?

This may not be of particluarly wide interest, so please e-mail
any responses -- I'll post anything which appears to be of general
interest.

Peter King

<prking@cs.UManitoba.ca>
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From: masimo@netcom.com (Michael Maas)
Subject: Mainland China advice requested
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:43:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

My wife and I are considering a two to three week jaunt to Mainland China
during early October.  We both speak fluent Mandarin and she is ethnic
Chinese. 

I would appreciate any advice from anyone who has traveled to China 
particularly if their situation is similar to mine.

Thanks,

Masimo
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: HELP! Best book on Belize & Guatemala
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:07:19 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <skipa.712089631@milton>, skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:
> 
> A friend and I are planning to go to Belize & Guatemala
> this Winter.  What are the best guidebooks for this area?

A travel guide by Chikki Mallon, published by Moon Publishing.
Your bookstore can order it.  Guatemala is for professional,
experienced, hardcore travelers only.  If you're not, stick 
with Belize...  It's hardcore enough but without the Death
Squads, paranoid teenage military with machine guns, guerillas,
etc.

> Does Lonely Planet have a book?

No idea.

Enjoy Belize!

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.
From: pasturel@albi.EBay.Sun.Com (Pierre Pasturel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Oregon, Washington, Victoria recommendations
Followup-To: rec.trqavel
Date: 22 Jul 1992 17:16:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: pasturel@albi.EBay.Sun.Com
NNTP-Posting-Host: zinfandel.ebay.sun.com

 I will be taking a 12 day road trip starting from the 
Bay Area and going up through Oregon and Washington, with
our final destination being Victoria on Vancouver Island.

 If you have any great experiences on things that you have seen,
places you have stayed (e.g.,B&B's), restaurants you have been to, etc....
I would love to hear about it.

  So far, I would like to see: Columbia Gorge, Mount St Helens,
Olympia Peninsula, Victoria. 

  We pretty much want to sight-see, go antique shopping, see some
countryside, go on short hikes, etc.... , but no camping.  

thanks for any recommendations, and please e-mail directly to me.


Pierre
pasturel@albi.EBay.Sun.Com


p.s. I have heard that getting on the ferry from Port Angeles (sp?)
to Victoria is difficult and crowded. Any pointers on how to make
this as easy as possible? I will be there at the end of July.





Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: InterRail - 5 nations exit
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:22:09 GMT

In article <BruJxD.A5C@news.udel.edu> jjones@chopin.udel.edu (James A Jones) writes:
>I just got back from Portugal and I know that Spain was charging InteRail
>passengers 5000 pesetas if they stopped over in Spain.  I met dozens
>of people who had ridden straight through to Portugal in order to avoid
>the fee.

How can they tell?  What's to prevent you from getting off the train in Spain
without paying the fee?

Wayne

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: NYC Train/Bus depot question
Date: 22 Jul 1992 18:36:27 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <9207221707.AA09480@td2cad>, snahas@TD2CAD.INTEL.COM (steven nahas) writes:
|> 
|> If I take a train from Providence, RI to NYC, does that train
|> deposit me at Penn Sta. or Grand Central?

All Amtrak trains now use Penn Station.    Only Metro-North
commuter trains still use Grand Central.  (This is unfortunate,
because Grand Central is a magnificent building, while Penn 
Station is literally a pit.)

If you really want to come into Grand Central, you could transfer
from Amtrak to Metro-North anywhere between New Haven, Connecticut
and New Rochelle, NY.   But it's probably not worth the trouble.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rkmossm@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Subject: Re: Here's a book on Scotland/Wales travel
Reply-To: rkmossm@PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:31:32 GMT

Once again, I might be too late for Anthony, but FYI:

The "traditional English Breakfast" that is mentioned in the B&B books is orange
juice, coffee or tea, bacon, eggs, sausage, toast and tomato that has been
broiled. The bacon is really more like ham (very good), I thought the sausage
had too much bread or filler in it for my taste, but that's MHO. (Oh, I forgot
cold cereal).

The Turret Guest House in Edinburgh was the only one we stayed at (out of five)
that had a real menu (choose one/two from each of five or six different
categories), the places in Windermere, Stratford on Avon, and York simply 
brought the stuff out as you cleaned up each previous course. The Braemar Guest
House in Rottingdean had a pseudo-menu. They had all those items and you got to
choose from the seven basic items plus grapefruit juice or bran flakes. Not very
creative. But, invariably, the food was good. It's just that I kept expecting to
be able to hear everyone's arteries hardening as I was there.

At that, the breakfasts were at least hot. At the hotels where we stayed in
Innsbruck, Lucerne, and Paris a couple of years ago, breakfast was Kaiser rolls
and your choice of jams or jellies, and cold cereal. I guess the bottom line is:
Breakfasts that come with the rooms are intended to be good enough to get you
started on your day, but if you want variety you can always go to a restaurant.
Personally, I have better things to do with my time and money.

Ensuite means having a sink and shower usually. You still have to go down the
hall for a toilet. Some times these aren't even in a separate room, they are 
simply over in one corner of your room. The standard rooms only have a sink.
But, in two weeks of living out of standard rooms, I only went to the room down
the hall one time and found it occupied. Most B&B's have multiple rooms with 
full facilities and also rooms with only toilets and sinks. No problems.
It's funny that I can't remember ever having a wash cloth in my room, but did
have both hand towels and bath towels.

Yes, the thirteen pounds did include the VAT.

Hope this helps someone if not Anthony. 
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Richard K. Mossman  {att,bellcore,sun,ames,decwrl}!pacbell!rkmossm
510/823-0974
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell)
Subject: Please buy my MR2.
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:54:46 GMT

1991 TOYOTA MR2 Turbo, Aquamarine Pearl. Loaded. $15,500 Or best offer.

I owe $15,622 on this car and it is placing too much of a financial burden
 on me. Please make me an offer or take over payments of $391/month.

Figures:
	2.0-liter 4-cyl. turbocharged, intercooled engine makes 200HP.
	40K pleasureable miles. 22-30 MPG. 0-60 MPH in 6.0 sec. Top speed 145.
	Tires-195/60R14 85V front; 205/60R14 88V rear. 
Features:
	5-Speed manual, Air Conditioning, Cruise Control, Anti-Lock brakes,
	Driver's side Airbag, Power locks/windows/antenna/mirrors, Fog Lights,
	7-speaker stereo with CD player, T-Tops, 7-way bucket driver's seat w/
	Lumbar, Leather wrapped	steering wheel, shifter, and hand brake.
Care:
	Oil changed ever 3K miles. Slick50 added at 1,000 miles. Original
	tires on front. Rear tires have 28K miles. Washed and waxed often. 
	Never redlined, crashed, raced or otherwise tortured.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.skiing
From: whitley@mksol.dseg.ti.com 
Subject: Vail to Aspen
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:38:35 GMT

I understand that Highway 24 is under construction from Vail to Aspen.
I am curious which is the best way to get to Aspen from Vail, going I-70
to 82 or down 24 to 82.  I will be going in August, any help is appreciated.

Thanks, 
Harlan 

e-mail  whitley@sunscm1.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel,uiuc.general
From: ikg1591@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Irina Kosinovsky )
Subject: Help!!! Directions needed to Indiana Dunes 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:05:10 GMT

To those living in Chicago area: I need directions to Indiana Dunes.
I know its somewhere south of Chicago and I've been there once but forgot how I
got there :)

Anyways, I'll be actually driving from Champaign -- taking Hwy 57 north to
Chicago. So what do I do then? Take Hwy 94 South? (Or is it east?) or its not
on 94 at all???

Please help me.

Irina 

ikg1591@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   or   irina@zorro.cecer.army.mil

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se (Sherry HArris,xtr,0334)
Subject: Sightseeing in Phoenix
Reply-To: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:46:16 GMT

I will be travelling to Phoenix over the labor day weekend.
My time will be limited to 3 days.   Any suggestions on
places to see.  

Also would like to know what areas of town are best to live...
will possibly be relocating to Phoenix.

Thanks in advance,	
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From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Passport needed for visa?
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:15:41 GMT
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures


henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix) wrote: 
>->This just show that there ARE differences, depending on where you are 
>->located.  When I applied for my passport the office told me it would
>->be a 30-45 day wait.  I got it in the mail the DAY BEFORE I was to
>->leave.
>
>ellon ... this sounds like you went to the post awful to apply for
>your passport.  the examples quoted are from people who went to the
>passport office in their nearby Fabulous Major City.
>
>i got my passport by applying at the central sq post awful in
>cambridge, ma ... it arrived in the mail four weeks later, and was
>apparently issued in seattle.


   I applied at the passport office in San Francisco.  I was going 
   to go to the "post awful" but, I dilly dallied around and KNEW 
   I wouldn't get it in time if I waited for them.  

   Ellon


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touch. It's like a new love, a new love........  WCS & ESS 4/18/92
From: kulla@casee.enet.dec.com (Marc Kulla)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Train to China???
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:31:54 GMT
Reply-To: kulla@casee.enet.dec.com (Marc Kulla)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Hi,

I haven't seen much on this subject here in the past, so here goes.  A friend of mine
wants to take the train to China (Beijing) where she will be teaching english.  She
is trying to see whether she should fly or take the train.  Does anyone have any
experience with the trains to china from Western Europe?  Times, costs, visas and
any other kind of information would help quite a bit.  There seems to be very little
knowledge of this information here in France.

Thanks in advance.

Marc
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From: marylamb@milton.u.washington.edu (Mary Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: North Carolina suggestions?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:09:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Our daughter has recently been transferred to Raleigh, NC.  My husband and
I would like to visit in September or October.  We'd plan to spend a few
days with her and her husband, and a few days seeing some of the rest of
North Carolina.  We have the AAA book for N and S Carolina, and a very
attractive booklet from the North Carolina Visitors and Tourism Office (or
whatever the official name is).  We can't see it all in one trip.  Do
people who live there, or who have visited there, have suggestions about
the most important things to see, or the best times to go?  (Should we go
west to the mountains or east to the seashore?)  We usually enjoy art and
historical museums in preference to theme parks. I like gardens and my
husband is a pretty good sport about that.  We both enjoy riding on trains
drawn by steam locomotives, and have planned entire vacations around steam
locomotives, although I suspect it will be too late in the year for this. 
We'd be grateful for information and suggestions.  If you respond by
e-mail, I'll be happy to post a summary.

Mary Lamb
Department of Zoology
U of Washington
Seattle WA

e-mail marylamb@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wb@rigel.uucp (Bill Beblo)
Subject: Re: Collecting Visa stamps (was: Passport needed for visa?)
Reply-To: wb@rigel.UUCP (Bill Beblo)
Organization: Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:52:56 GMT

Regarding getting visas stamped in passports on arrival in Europe:

I've been to Germany (Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin) several times over
the past 4 years and not once did I ever get a visa stamped in my passport.
Each time I was arriving directly from the USA.  In at least two
instances my passport was not even opened.  The immigration officer
saw that it was a US passport and simply gave it back to me letting me
pass through.  Has anyone else ever gotten a stamp in Germany?

What about the EEC situation.  I am under the impression that starting this
year you would need to have your passport stamped by the EEC country
which you first enter.  Travel between EEC countries would not require
passport stamps, or even passport checks.  Is this true?

Bill Beblo
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: grout@sp90.csrd.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout)
Subject: Re: Philly to Boston driving times
Reply-To: j-grout@uiuc.edu
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:11:27 GMT

dumic@cc.swarthmore.edu (Mark J. Dumic) writes:

>At this point, there are several options.  One is to take 687? North to
>Interstate 84 East. This runs into the Massacheusetts Turnpike which will
>take you to Boston.  I find that there's often a lot of traffic on 84 and
>things slow down as you go through several larger towns in Connecticut.

It's I-684 North... a short cut (in good weather for people who are driving a
car and aren't afraid of nine-foot traffic lanes) is to take the Saw Mill River
Parkway north from I-287... cross the Tappan Zee Bridge, take the Cross
Westchester Expressway exit (I-287) at I-87/I-287 split, then take the first
exit to the Saw Mill north, which merges with I-684 North at Katonah south of
Brewster...  this route is about ten miles shorter than I-287 to I-684 to I-84.

Another option for daytime travel is to take the Hutchinson River, Merritt and
Wylbur Cross (?) Parkways all the way from Westchester County, NY to
Middletown, CT (a ways south of Hartford)... the lanes are narrow and sometimes
the roads are crowded (e.g., holiday weekends), but they are very esthetic
(e.g., beautiful landscaping, decorative stonework)...  take the Cross
Westchester Expy (I-287) to the Hutchinson River Parkway north and keep going
until you see signs for I-91 near Middletown...  then, follow the signs on I-91
North to Boston (taking the Charter Oaks bridge) to avoid downtown Hartford...
I-84 is much less congested east of the Hartford metro area.

--
John R. Grout			| INTERNET: j-grout@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: brownw@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Bill Brown)
Subject: Re: Heathrow Airport Navagation
Summary: Thanks
Keywords: Thanks to all those who responded
Reply-To: brownw@hercules.uregina.ca
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:38:31 GMT

Just a short not to thank those who have responded to my
Heathrow questions.  This is a great group !

Bill

Organization: Office of Planning & Budget, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:43:00 -0400 
From: Karin Berger <kb42+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Info needed IMMEDIATLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please help!

Does anybody know if there is a possibility to use the return flight of
a round trip ticket when the first flight is unused.

(I want to fly SF to Pittsburgh also I did not fly Pittsburgh SF)
Any ideas on that would be greatly appreciated and I need to know this
RIGHT NOW.

Karin