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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
Subject: Re: Rules Systems
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:58:54 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <724085594.28543@minster.york.ac.uk> dcw-a@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>
>	What rules systems are people on this group using? I personally play
>the 1984 revised Svenson rules system, but with rule 19 from the '76 Brighton rules.
>This includes the two move penalty for travelling by cab.
>
>	Doug.
>

Why, oh why, does everyone *have* to keep harking back to the Brighton Rules? 
It was a once-off game, acknowledged to be an oddity, even by the teams 
themselves! Let's get back to the purist game. Admittedly, it was no easier
to understand, but at least we could all agree on the basic rules.

Now is the time for an amnesty - all those with Brighton Rules can hand them
in to the net before the end of the year, and nothing untoward will be said.

Regards,
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From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Innocent hootenanny brides" Neilski)
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent,alt.comedy.british
Subject: Phone-in MC (again)
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:16:38 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

Well, following the stunning response from the last phone-in MC game
(nobody), we're playing it again this Monday.

The game starts at 9.15 pm and goes on to 10.45 pm.

The phone number is Reading (0734) 455055 (if you're outside the UK,
+44 734 455055).

The station is Radio Cracker Tilehurst.

The Brighton rules will not be accepted.

-- neilski

-- 
 RADIO CRACKER - 103.6 FM  \--------------------------------------------------
----------------------------\ You come here to my daughter's wedding,
but you show me no respect.  You ask me to listen to ... Radio Cracker.
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: New Game
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:58:14 GMT

In <1g7f7oINN458@oak21.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijd@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian James Davies) writes:
>Place =             Notting Hill Gate
>David V Murphy:     Ladbroke Grove
>John Farrell:       Swansea Avenue
>David V Murphy:     Aldgate East
>Ian James Davies:   Barkingside
>David V Murphy:     Lord North Street
>John Farrell:       Supreme Court
>Ken Johnson:        North Woolwich
>John Farrell:       Middle Minchington
>Robert Schone:      Warwick Avenue
>Ian J Davies:       Regent's Park
>Frank Schmidt:      Finchley Central
>David Asher:        Swiss Cottage
>John Farrell:       Bathgate
>Frank Schmidt:      Euston Station
>Ian J. Davies:      Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St)

>Of course, if Piccadilly line trains were none stopping at Knightsbridge due 
>to a security alert, and Northern line trains were terminating at 
>Archway due to engineering works, it would have all been so different.

  Yes wouldn't it, but you don't really think we would have been so silly
after reading that column in The Times last week, do you? Anyway, it's very
rude (but clever) of you to play Tower Hill when the game is being conducted
across public access electronic media, because you know damn well that between
Usenet rules and the Trade Practices Act (1985), I am not allowed to play
Fenchurch Street. This applies to everyone subject to Australian law, except
if they are not actually in Australia, so I would be allowed to play Fenchurch
Street if I was in the Australian Embassy in London, for example. Sadly I am
not, so I shall have to play 

John Farrell:       Lords

Here's an interesting puzzle: if you were in the United States, without
diplomatic immunity, what would be the best move to play? What if you were
in the Bahamas, where the trade practices laws are very liberal but any
network connection would have to go through Usenet? What move would the
English ambassador in New York play (assuming he plays optimally, of
course?).

John
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: burke@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Re: New Game
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:20:34 GMT

In article <1gn8v7EINNsfr@uni-erlangen.de>, fkschmid@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Frank Schmidt) writes:
>>Frank Schmidt:      Parliament (or whatever the station is called)
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
Which station?

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Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Re: Speling
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:14:01 GMT

In article <Bz38JB.29v@fulcrum.co.uk>, rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
|> How can we silent umpires be expected to judge a game when you can't even
|> spell the name of the game correctly in the news group title?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

At my last job I was news manager/postmaster, and I replied to the
newgroup message pointing out the error.  The mail bounced.  Since
it's obviously bad form to sort out someone else's newgroup, I let it
stand.

I don't think anything else needs to be said...
--
Robin (Campaign for Real Radio 3) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
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From: fkschmid@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Frank Schmidt)
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
Subject: Re: New Game
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:55:02 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell) writes:
>Place =             Notting Hill Gate
>David V Murphy:     Ladbroke Grove
>John Farrell:       Swansea Avenue
>David V Murphy:     Aldgate East
>Ian James Davies:   Barkingside
>David V Murphy:     Lord North Street
>John Farrell:       Supreme Court
>Ken Johnson:        North Woolwich
>John Farrell:       Middle Minchington
>Robert Schone:      Warwick Avenue
>Ian J Davies:       Regent's Park
>Frank Schmidt:      Finchley Central
>David Asher:        Swiss Cottage
>John Farrell:       Bathgate
>Frank Schmidt:      Euston Station
>Ian J. Davies:      Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St)
>John Farrell:       Lords

>Frank Schmidt:      Parliament (or whatever the station is called)

---
*********Frank Schmidt**********fkschmid@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de*********
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Speling
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:59:28 GMT

In article <Bz8Jnx.8z6@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>In article <Bz38JB.29v@fulcrum.co.uk>, rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
>writes:
>
>|>How can we silent umpires be expected to judge a game when you can't even
>|>spell the name of the game correctly in the news group title?
>|>
>|>Tch.
>
>The newsgroup was created by Vice President Dan-Quaylee in an attempt to find
>out the rules for the game.
>
>FACT: 30% of the posts to alt.games.mornington.cresent are to complain about the
>choice of spelling, hell what price individuality, are we all going to be
>dragooned into the narrow orthodoxy of traditional spelling? Look at where the
>USA got, an entire nation unable to spell Colour, nevertheless managed to land
>on the moon. So what if they only did so because there isn't much else you can
>do when you are stuck at Euston while playing the Nixon/Kruschev Peking
>maneuver.
>
>--
>Phill Hallam-Baker


Only a philistine would align himself to America in a poor attempt to excuse
bad spelling. I rest my case.

Regards,
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   Heard about the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa?
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From: reiss@husc11.harvard.edu (Peter Reiss)
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
Subject: Re: Karlsplatz
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:02:07 GMT
 <1fqdq0INNrli@oak43.doc.ic.ac.uk><REISS.92Dec10005629@husc11.harvard.edu><1g7fbeINN46n@oak21.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: ijd@doc.ic.ac.uk's message of 10 Dec 92 13:05:50 GMT

Ian James Davies) writes:

   >Peter Reiss writes:
   >>Certainly, and I will take the upperhand from the start by claiming
   >>the key station in the game--Hauptbahnhof.
   >>
   >>If you feel overmatched, I will understand.
   >
   >Absolutely not. 
   >
   >A clever opening move.. You are evidently an experienced player. Consequently,
   >I feel no guilt in playing

   >	   Ismaning
  

Well, if it makes you happy...
But taking minor medieval stations won't win you this game.

I continue my rampage of controlling the key central stations by
claiming Isartor.

Your move.

Peter
Newsgroups: alt.games.mornington.cresent
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Speling
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:07:09 GMT

In article <Bz38JB.29v@fulcrum.co.uk>, rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
writes:

|>How can we silent umpires be expected to judge a game when you can't even
|>spell the name of the game correctly in the news group title?
|>
|>Tch.

The newsgroup was created by Vice President Dan-Quaylee in an attempt to find
out the rules for the game.

FACT: 30% of the posts to alt.games.mornington.cresent are to complain about the
choice of spelling, hell what price individuality, are we all going to be
dragooned into the narrow orthodoxy of traditional spelling? Look at where the
USA got, an entire nation unable to spell Colour, nevertheless managed to land
on the moon. So what if they only did so because there isn't much else you can
do when you are stuck at Euston while playing the Nixon/Kruschev Peking
maneuver.

--
Phill Hallam-Baker
Newsgroups: alt.wanted.mars.women,alt.sex.wizards,alt.tv.90210,alt.sexy.bald.captains,alt.tv.simpsons
From: hopster@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mary A. Hoppe)
Subject: Re: howdee doodee
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:44:05 GMT

Tourfman:
Get back to alt.wanted.mars.women!

Newsgroups: alt.wanted.mars.women,alt.sex.wizards,alt.tv.90210,alt.sexy.bald.captains,alt.tv.simpsons
From: khchung@fermat.maths.monash.edu.au (mr kh chung)
Subject: Re: howdee doodee
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:23:37 GMT

Mary A. Hoppe (hopster@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:
: Am interested in your personal, but am unable to contact you by phone.
: Do you have a fax number?
: 
: How's this sound.....22 years old, 5'5", 120 lbs., blonde hair, blue
: 		      eyes, lightly pigmented green skin.
: 
: Awaiting your response.
: 
I always thought most Martians were supposed to be RED.  Most of ERB's
were.
Newsgroups: alt.wanted.mars.women,alt.sex.wizards,alt.tv.90210,alt.sexy.bald.captains,alt.tv.simpsons
From: hopster@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mary A. Hoppe)
Subject: Re: howdee doodee
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:53:26 GMT

tourf00@DMI.USherb.CA  writes:
> 
> Hey! How about me?  I'm a 220 years old xtermian (actually the only
> 		    one from this planet ), 6'1", 180 lbs., no hair,
> 		    green/blue eyes, 3 arms (one always showing one
> 		    finger up to everybody) and very BORED right now.
> 
> ___ 
>  |ourfman


Oh god, Oh god!  Tourfman, you fulfill my every fantasy!  I can't, I just
can't wait any longer.  By the way, NOT!  Thanks ever so much for posting
my confidential personal to numerous newsgroups. Actually, I should
thank you...I've gotten many replies, some of which I may investigate.


Newsgroups: alt.wanted.mars.women,alt.sex.wizards,alt.tv.90210,alt.sexy.bald.captains,alt.tv.simpsons
From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: howdee doodee
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
	<1992Dec10.154640.4495@news.unomaha.edu>
	<1992Dec10.212608.24138@unet.net.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.212608.24138@unet.net.com> stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight) writes:

   In article <1992Dec10.154640.4495@news.unomaha.edu> hopster@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mary A. Hoppe) writes:

   >How's this sound.....22 years old, 5'5", 120 lbs., blonde hair, blue
   >		      eyes, lightly pigmented green skin.

   Sounds a bit young and just a little over ripe to me.


   Stan Knight
   |Even 5 foot 2; eyes of blue; skin of green; doesn't rhyme|


This does, however, rhyme:

5 foot 2;
Eyes of blue;
Skin a greenish hue.

:-)

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From: radinsky@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Radinsky)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: Hypnosis and the Soul
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:59:19 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

steve.crabtree@synapse.org (Steve Crabtree)  writes:
> What puzzles me is that so little work seems to be done these days
> exploring the possible links between hypnosis and parapsychology with a
> view to exploring the nature of humankind.

You might be interested in "Venture Inward" by Hugh Lynn Cayce (our library
has it).  It's about the work of Edgar Cayce, who I would say does link
hypnosis and parapsychology (as well as explore the "nature of humankind").

My impression is that parapsychological work isn't funded because if
their results are negative, there was no point in doing the research,
and if their results are positive, nobody believes them anyway.

Wayne (the Anxious Puppy).
From: isaacman@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Subvert the Dominant Paradigm! (301) 513-7769)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: NLP, NLP, NLP, alright already!
Keywords: NLP, flame
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:38:00 GMT
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

I vote that we change the name of this group to alt.nlp.flame.  This is 
getting really boring, people.

And yes, I know about the Kill command.  If I used it with an "NLP" 
keyword, I might as well unsubscribe the group.  
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Subject: Re: Hypnosis Levels
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA
	<1992Dec9.170657.29938@nrc.com>,<DLB.92Dec11125522@fanny.wash.inmet.com>
	<1992Dec13.004405.12206@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:29:52 GMT

Well, it was posted in response to my article, so I feel constrained
to reply; unfortunately, I have little to say.

In article <1992Dec13.004405.12206@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Bob Vogel) writes:

   Don't you all think (with due respect for the menatl anguish that
   may cause some of the "flame" experts reading) that the lack of
   correlation between trance phenomena and EEG's and any number of
   the other comments that have been posted here {when we weren't
   talking about NLP} point strongly in the direction that there is a
   part of our psyche (soul, most basic uniquness, & 50 other terms
   for that same essential "us-ness") that is both seperable from the
   body and not observable, at least with our current crude
   instruments?  Many people's out of body experiences would seem to
   point in this direction.  Such a separate self would possibly
   account also for some of the anamolies discussed herein.
   Comments??  observations that tend to support or detract??  Anybody
   in hypnosis had anything to say about this?

This is one (but only one) possible hypothesis.  If I approach this
from the purely scientific point of view, I will choose a simpler
hypothesis first: that the nature of hypnosis and the nature of EEG
measurements are not necessarily connected.

My religious viewpoint disagrees; I believe in the concept of a soul,
and of God, not because of my experience of hypnosis, but because of
my own religious practices and experiences.  At this point, I have no
real evidence or opinion with respect to the relationship between
hypnosis and such experiences (except to the extent that hypnosis, and
self-hypnosis, can de-potentiate conscious processes, which may assist
in meditation).

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
From: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: SELF-HYPNOSIS... HOW CAN I DO IT?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 22:20:17 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5546yuj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsf.csd.mu.edu

In article <168BC222E.HOFANTJ@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, HOFANTJ@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
> Dear friends: This is the very first time that I post in this board and I was
>very thrilled to find that there was a hypmosis section. I have always been
>fascinated by this phenomenom and I've read book on it. However, I have never
> been able to successfully achieve self-hypnosis. I've tried many methods (rela
>xation to a certain point, staring at one object, placing myself in a certain
> staircase or bady of water, etc.,) but none of them seem to work. I would
>appreciate it if any of you have any files that you could send to me or any
>suggestions as to how to do this. I have personalle never been hypnotized and I
> am very eager to learn how to do it myself first. Thank you very much for any
>information.
>                                   Antonio Jose Hofbauer


Ha! The same as me. I am also waiting for information.

JY MU
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: George Clark Proposes Silencing Friday re NLP
Date: 20 Dec 1992 18:44:58 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

I don't want to hear anything more about NLP-- pro or con.  Maybe the
NLP people need a separate group!???  alt.hypnosis.NLP
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
From: friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: hypnosis to quit smoking
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:33:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In <1992Dec12.125615.5196@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>A man named M. Michaluk, now deceased, used to hold free smoking-
>cessation clinics each Wednesday night at his Institute of Applied
>Natural Sciences (IANS). His success made him a local celebrity, and
>he appeared on all the local radio and TV talk shows. To schedule
>an appointment, you had to book two months in advance, since he was
>so popular.

Did he train a successor, George?  Is there anyone else who now
continues his methods?

It is also neat that Mr. Michaluk was so committed to helping people
stop smoking that he was willing to do that for no compensation.
*That's* really altruistic.

>I know three smokers, including myself, who quit cold turkey
>without withdrawal after attending one of these sessions. I had
>been smoking maybe two packs per day.

That's great...and dramatic!

[Some deleted]

>In a dimly lit room, the session began by our staring at a rotating
>spiral projected on to a big wall. Then Dr. Michaluk asked us to
>imagine ourselves in a variety of business and social situations,
>where smokers often smoke. Someone would offer us a cigarette, and we
>imagined ourselves saying, "No thank you. I don't smoke."

Can you give us any more details on the procedures he used?  Do
you have any further information about the specific *ways* he got
the group to visualize the appropriate images?  Were there other
post-hypnotic suggestions he made that might've been powerful
interventions, too?

[some personally convincing statement deleted]

>The amazing thing is that I went from two packs per day to being a
>non-smoker. There was no withdrawal at all. This happened in 1976,
>and I haven't smoked a single cigarette since.

That's GREAT!  Congratulations.

>I recommend group hypnosis over individual sessions because in a
>group you can remain anonymous, which is helpful if you are timid
>about others observing you while suggestions are in progress.

If the individual's needs and wants are unique from the other members
of the group, how would group hypnosis work?  And, I'm wondering,
did Mr. Michaluk observe you (along with 29 others), or did he
only have a specific pattern of induction he used, irrespective
of the group?  In other words, I wonder if he could've done the
same thing with a drapery hanging between him and the group of
subjects?
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Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
From: geomorph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bayard Wenzel)
Subject: Re: Hypnosis Levels
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:03:07 GMT

I have to agree with Dave Barton. Furhter more, the research papers and books
I have read on the subject of Hypnosis leads me to deduce that hypnosis is 
nothing more than just intence concentration of awareness on a small set of
metnal and body processes. This concentration is intense to such a degree that
the subject starts to ignore,or not concentrate on, other body processes such
as sight, in the case of induced blindness, or pain when inducing anhesteasia.
My experience with hypnosis is not great. I became interested in it when I
was considering a variety of different therapeutic procedures to help a family
member deal with his epilepsy. I am a regular practicioner of self-hypnosis
too, but I only do this for entertainment and personal research.

	Sebastian Ferreyra

P.S.: What I'm trying to lead to is that hypnosis is not that different from
the normal waking state. Therefore there may lie the reason that EEG patterns
are not affected by a 'trance'.
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