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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Programming: NDA question (NOT sys6:)
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:24:39 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr5.223053.39063@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston Park) writes:
>1:  TBR1 says that the events passed to an NDA are limited to ButtonDown,
>    ButtonUp, KeyDown, AutoKeyDown, Update, and Activate.  I assume this
>    means what I think it says which means that the only information I'm
>    going to get from the Event Manager is just that.  Now, can I assume
>    that the event manager is only sending me MouseDown etc. events if
>    they happen in the NDA window?  It seems reasonable to assume so, but
>    then again...

Yes, those are the only events you get with the eventAction code to your
action routine.

You get mouseDown events only when the mouse is in your NDA's window.
(Your window will already be in front, by the way.  A click in a non-
front NDA window [when handled by SystemClick] brings your window to
the front and in 5.0.4 never tells you about that click.  In 6.0, you
can receive the click that brings you to the front, by setting a bit
in your window's frame...qContent, I think it's called.)

You get mouseUp events whenever your NDA is in front, even if you did
not get a corresponding mouseDown event.

You get keyDown and autoKey events when your NDA window is in front.

By the way, it's often handy to copy the event record into an extended
task record and call TaskMasterDA, inside your action routine.  There's
a technical note on this (TaskMaster Madness).
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (resU nwonknU ehT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys 6 and Transprog
Date: 17 Apr 92 11:52:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr17.032046.15675@en.ecn.purdue.edu> platkus@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus) writes:
}Or, if you have a lot of formulas, simply create them all at once
}in Formulate, and then save them all to the RAM disk, and the as you type the
}doc, import them into it at the right places.  

	Comon. That is completely unacceptable.  I hate to tell you, most 
people don't have every single word/figure/drawing in their head at the moment
they want to write a document.

	That may be almost as simple conceptually, but it CERTAINLY is not 
in actual use.  I had to do basically the same thing on a Mac when I was 
writing a big (30+ page) paper last year.. I would do the pictures in
SuperPaint and the document in Word.. and had to switch between them tons and
tons of times.. It's very aggravating/time consuming.

	If Formulate were an NDA, it would be there all of the time, and no
switching to it would be necessary.  That is a much more usable form.
-- 
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\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED,ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS&CHEAP CD info/
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: What do I need?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:36:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cancun.rdippold.702596176
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

Hokay, my IIgs has been languishing in a closet for over a year.  When
I packed it up I'd just gotten system 5.03.  I've got 1.5Meg of RAM
and two 3 1/2" floppies.  Now I've moved, have room for it again, and
it's sitting right next to the other computer, playing with itself
right now (literally, DiversiTune).

Now it looks like I've come back just in time to upgrade to ProTerm
3.0, System 6, and pro-line 2.0.

I've been watching this group for a few weeks... My remaining
questions - is my system hopelessly out of date?  How much memory do I
need?  Are there disk drives that'll use higher than 800K?  What'll it
cost to set me up with a decent hard drive and card?
-- 
Nihilism doesn't exist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: System 6 Launcher!
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 17:59:58 EDT

shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:

> While I keep close tabs on what Dave's doing to the Finder now, I no longer
> work for IIGS System Software.  I work for Ron Lichty with the Macintosh
> Finder Team.  I -do- contribute every now and then (like trying to get the
> Keyboard Navigation INIT written in one night at Dave's), but I'm no longer
> directly responsible for the Apple IIGS Finder.

Well, it's certainly a compliment to you, from Apple Inc., that they so 
quickly moved you after System 6.0 was released (ie. they can't wait for you 
to make some badly-needed changes in the Mac Finder B-). If you do for the 
Mac version what you've done for the one that counts B-), I might _almost_ 
be convinced to buy a PowerBook 100 (and dock it to my RamFAST, of course).

Seriously, congratulations (I know, _I'd_ prefer you to remain with Green, 
but it's probably a rather positive career move for you) on the new 
position. Don't think we're going to let you off the hook on GSHK v2.0 
though B-).

(I do hope this message gets out before too many people respond with 
stunned, outraged, saddened or whatever articles).

(To those people who do leave such posts - note that he didn't say "I'm 
outtahere" or anything ridiculous like that.)

> 
> andy
> 
> -- 
> Andy Nicholas			GEnie & America-Online: shrinkit
> Apple Computer, Inc.		       	      InterNET: shrinkit@apple.com


Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
CI$ 70253,2574          '
From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 & SCSI partitions
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:47:20 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <ml1t4vg@rpi.edu>, kentm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent) writes:
> 
> So now I've got 120 floppies piled on my desk and an empty hard drive.  Some-
> body please help me.  Dave, Andy, anyone else: How do I get the damn thing
> partitioned?
> 
> Mike
> 
Hiya,
	System 6's ADU seems to be a bit "off". Dunno why, but when I
partitioned/initialized/whatever using 6.0's ADU, I had trouble going into
Prodos 8. All partitions disappeared. Even the Apple Hi-Speed SCSI utilities
thought I didn't have a SCSI drive. Scary. Then I pulled out the 5.0's ADU and
it worked perfectly. No problemo. Just make sure you have the HFS FST in the
correct folder when you boot. 
	Note that the HFS partition takes up a lot of space (1.6 megs for a 104
meg partition). Also, I had problems using it with GScii/GSHK. Somehow, the
ShrunkIt versions cannot be used. (from HFS). I undecoded the BSC versions (in
GSHK) from the HFS partition into another folder there. GSHK choked on the
undecoded files. But when I move the .bsc files to the prodos partitions and
then undecoded it via gscii, gshk can use it.
	Still, the HFS FST is miles ahead of the Apple File Exchange program on
the Macs.
	Hope this helps. Ciao.

-Tai
From: andre@lri.jur.uva.nl (Andre Valente)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: A game called Floppy?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:51:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: lri.9204071751.AA03308

Sorry folks, I may be in the wrong group but I couldn't find a better
one.

I am looking for a game called Floppy, that I played in the Apple-II
of a friend many years ago. I want to know if the game still exists
(maybe for otehr platforms), or at least what is the name and address
of the company that makes it (that is easy if someone still have the
game). 

Thanks a lot,

Andre' Valente     andre@swi.psy.uva.nl
University of Amsterdam
From: talon@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Joe Quilici)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Supra Corp.
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:17:47 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Query:
 
Does Supra have an Internet or other such address?  I need to contact them
and I would like to avoid a long-distance charge as much as possible. 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joseph@synapse.bms.com (Seymour Joseph)
Subject: Stickybear hates System 6.0
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:48:20 GMT

Last night I discovered to my dismay that two programs (possibly more,
I only own two) published by Optimum resources (Weekly Reader
Software) Will not run under System 6.

The two affected programs are:
The New Talking Stickybear Alphabet for the Apple IIGS
and
The New Talking Sickybear Opposites for the Apple IIGS

Both programs could be run from their original floppies after booting
system 5.04 and ALSO were hard disk installable.  They ran fine for my
family from the hard disk under system 5.04.

Under System 6.0, they both crash after displaying the title page,
whether I run them from their original floppy disks or from the HD.

Boo Hiss, we all loved Stickybear.  Does anyone know if Optimum
Resources are still supporting these products?  Does anyone have a
phone number.  The box says they are located in CT, but I didn't find
a phone number.

We cam still boot and run the original floppies of course, but that
is much slower...

Seymour Joseph
From: deviant@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: <None>
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:45:10 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


Does anyone know why I would not be able to directory most of the 
directories on tybalt?   I'm using BITFTP and can dir ./pub/apple2 but 
then have no way of accessing anything inside of any of the other 
directories.  The message always comes back that there is no dir by that 
name (e.g. addons, util, uploads...)

Any points of help?
-- 

ala the Deviant@Yang.Earlham.Edu
From: tomk@pro-grouch.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HELP: Dos 3.3
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Collective Insanity

If you are successful in converting a DOS 3.3 binary file to ProDos, then
from basic try this.   -filename
There are also some launchers available that should launch files under
ProDos.
Send me E-Mail for more info.
From: jnomina@bgsu.edu (Aqualung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFast settings...
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:17:59 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.



"HELP, I've fallen, and I can't get up!!!"
"Go ahead,  make  my  day..."
"And the champ is Down!"
[...add other meaningless, frivolent, but favorite cliches here...]
[...I'm about to...]

    I'm digging my grave deeper and deeper it seems.  The more I
do to this, the worse things are getting.

    I've tried every "trick" and logical assessment thrown my way,
and I truly believe that my FamFAST has died a horrible death.  Its
still working, but not booting.  Everything is set as it should be.
I've tried every trick and test multiple times, and nothing.  I boot,
I get to the very first screen:  "Apple IIgs.....ROM 01" and it just
sits there.  I'm still able to boot off of a 3.5" if my slot is set
to 5 instead of scan, so I'm not dead, but I'm on a very degraded mode.
Sometimes, I'm able to launch things off of the HDD, but not always.
I even reinstalled System 5, but to no avail.  I've put the system on
both partitions, though I know everything is set up right.  Nothing.
I've tried re-partitioning and reformatting the HDD 50(?) a hundred (?)
times (a LOT).  I can't reset my slot priority allocations to 0, I guess
this option never existed for me.  I've taken out all the boards, cleaned
everything, etc, checked all connections...  I can think of nothing more
except to get out my solder gun and start looking at all those parts... 
(had you going there, didn't I?)  No?  Well, nonetheless, I suppose its
time to break down and call CV Technologies tomorrow about this...problem.

    But hey, I'm not dead, just on degraded mode for the moment.
And I DON'T blame System 6.  Its beautiful!!!  At least, what little
I saw of it briefly before I got stupid and decided that I needed to
repartition my HDD.  Maybe it forced the issue with the RamFAST, but
is that the fault of the new system?  Nope!  And is it the fault of
the RamFAST?  Nope!  Seemingly, the system has just forced an error
to the forefront which was otherwise unnoticable, but there just the
same.  And CV knew about it, too, or they wouldn't have fixed the
ROMs, right?  So, just who can I point my finger at?  Myself, I
guess.  Especially since CV is only about 2 hours south of here
on I-75, just south of Dayton.  Maybe its time I went and visited
them...better call first, though!  Maybe they'll give me a job?

    Seriously, I still LOVE my RamFAST.  Especially whenever one of
my Mac or IBM friends comes over.  Same goes for System 6.  I can't
wait to show it off.  I was going to unveil it this weekend, but it
looks like its been put off for a few more days.  They just hate
me when I start timing things on my watch!  ;-}  Of course, most
of them were pathetically jealous of 5.04!  Hahahaha!!!!!  So
although things could be looking better, they could be looking worse,
I could be PS2ing it...  ;-)

Apple ][gs Forever! (In spite of it all!)

Jim
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys6 and FunKeys
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:01:20 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr08.030314.24021@crash.cts.com> steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) writes:
>There is this real neat init called FunKeys out there... it lets you do
>screen dumps to printer and disk, you can eject disks, blank the screen,
>shutdown, or just pause the processor, just by holing down control, option,
>and another key.  However, under System 6 in the finder, right when you
>hold down option and control, the system locks up BAD.  YOu have to turn
>the computer off, then on again.  Just thought I'd warn you guys.

Take out EasyAccess (from System.Setup).

FunKeys reads the keyboard with interrupts turned off (specifically, from
inside a heartbeat interrupt).

This is an EasyAccess no-no, since the key will not show up in the traditional
way until *after* EasyAccess services the Apple Desktop Bus interrupts
created by pressing the key.
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AW3.0 Spreadsheed Problem!
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:29:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-iisy.dc00652
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

roberta@psych.toronto.edu (Robert Atwood) writes:

>Hi. I have just discovered that the Spreadsheet in my Appleworks 3.0
>does order of operations WRONG! Example  1/2 + 1/4 = 0.375, or so it says!
>This should be 0.75 according to what I learned in Grade 3.  It seems
>to be calculating (1/2 +1)/4 for some reason.  Is there a patch for this, and
>if so can I download it from somewhere using some combination of FTP, BINSCII
> and ShrinkIt?

"It's not a bug; it's a feature."

>From page 11-13 of the AppleWorks 3.0 manual:

 | Order of precedence. AppleWorks performs calculations from left to right;
 | you can control the mathematical precedence (the order in which
 | calculations are performed) with parentheses.

Obviously, any math expert would balk at this, and I have no idea why
Claris/Beagle Bros decided to do it this way.  (Laziness?)  But there is a
very simple patch, and you don't have to download it.  Just use parenthesis
where needed.  In your example, enter (1/2)+(1/4).


Doug Granzow           dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-iisysops!dig
"The aging process could be delayed...if it had | Call: The 'II Sysops' BBS
 to make its way thru Congress" --George Bush   | +1 410 549 2584 USR DS v42b
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Apple II BL and my Apple III
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:01:43 GMT

In article <9911iB5w164w@lablues.UUCP> larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:
>I have an Apple II BL!!  I've gotten it to work sometimes!!  Does anyone 
>have the schmatic?  

What is a "BL?"  Is this some sort of ancient hardware/software
gadget that those of us who bought IIs later on (I got my IIe in '85)
have never heard of?

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!         Fidonet: 1:209/765 or 1:209/211
(IIe (  (702) 896-2676 v.32bis Apple II/IBM                     GEnie: S.ALFTER
 \_^_/  Ask me about SoftDAC--digital audio for your IIe/IIc! Apple II Forever!
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: TrueType fonts--Help
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:50:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Apr 12 92 at 21:45:36 (EST)

> From: sjordan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Jordan)
> Could someone describe TrueType fonts?  Are they included with my sys6, or do
> I need to get them separately? (Where?)  Why are they any better than
> standard GS fonts?  Do my GS programs automatically use them, or do I need
> programs written to take advantage of them?  Doesn't the new Windows 3.1 for
> IBM PCs use TrueType fonts?  I probably missed an old note that described all
> this... 

Truetype is a font imaging description language. In simpler terms. It is a way
of describing, in mathematical terms, how a character should look. 

They are not included with System 6.0. You can make use of them, by purchasing
the software Pointless from Westcode Software (available at most mailorder
places that sell Apple II software). 

Why are they better? Well, the theory is that with a Truetype font, you are
guaranteed of getting the best possible looking version of that particuliar
typeface in the pointsize you choose...no matter WHAT point size you choose.
Since it is a mathematical formula, the way the font is describe doesn't
change. Its SCALE changes, but not its description

In general a Truetype font is indistiguishable from a standard (bit mapped)
font...ONCE you are using it in a give point size. Pointless makes this all
fairly seemless. The nice thing about Pointless is that it only creates the
point sizes you need...as you need them. When you print (in best quality
modes) your printer driver will usually request a point size different than
what you are actually using. This is because most printers are capable of
better resolution (in dots per inch) than your screen. 

What happens is that the printer driver request something in 2x, 3x, 4x or 5x
(depending on the printer) and then prints THAT font at 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, or 1/5
scale (i.e. using a LOT more dots for the character than you actually see on
your screen). The end result is that your printouts look VERY good.
(Exceptionally good on a laserprinter.).

Yes, Windows 3.1 uses Truetype (or will have Truetype available for it), but
the few reports I have heard suggest that it is all but impossible to convert
from the GS (or Mac) to the Windows Truetype fonts (and vice versa). 
However, the GS and Mac Truetype fonts ARE interchangable. If you have the
memory (2 Megs or more, is my personal recommendation) then get Pointless. It
is well worth it.

                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)
         {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}
     * I hate spring. It gives me headaches and makes me feel yucky. *
* It also makes me do stupid things like argue about basketball players names *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 6.0 easter eggs
From: ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:34:32 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <65081@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
> 
> Local to where?  Are you in New Zealand?  I have no clue what the rules are
> for non-USA daylight time.  Maybe we can at least put a "hook" in so somebody
> can write an init for various localities.

Yup New Zealand - No, I don't know what happened to the old one...

The rules??  Pretty simple really - almost the complete opposite to USA
daylight saving!!

Yes - two hooks would be neat - Daylight saving start and finish!!

BTW Did you see my message a while back about ProDOS8 2.0.1 having a
major kversion of 2 and a minor of 1 - ie 2.1.

Is that intentional??  Have some bits been reallocated??

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: bill@braille.uwo.ca (Bill Carss)
Subject: Re: Help!
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:42:59 GMT

tjb@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Thomas Byrne) writes:

>To anyone knoladgeable about the Apple IIc computer:

>Do you know what the ProDos basic load command is, for the Apple IIc
>computer?


I am not sure what you mean by 'the ProDOS BASIC load command', so let's
try a couple of ideas:

1.  If you mean how to you get basic to 'run', it will automatically if it
is the first .sys file that is on your disk after ProDOS.

2.  If you mean how to you 'load' files in BASIC, at the ] prompt you
can type

]LOAD program.name<RETURN>

and the program (assuming it is a BASIC program) will be loaded into memory.
You can then LIST<ENTER> to see it.

3.  You could type 

]RUN program.name<ENTER> and the program will run.

4.  You could type

]-program.name<ENTER> and the program will run no matter what type the 
file is i.e BAS, SYS, BIN.

I hope this helps.

-- 
Bill Carss
bill@braille.uwo.ca
From: static@oak.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Finder resource
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:59:09 GMT
Reply-To: STATIC%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

I have added the following shortcuts to my Finder:

Close All  OA-S
Print      OA-P
Verify     OA-V

The problem is, I can only get them to work for either upper case or lower case,
but not both.  Depends on how I type it in using Genesys.  Anyone know how to
fix this?
From: r.levy@GREEN.COOPER.EDU (Rami_Levy-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6.0 BUGS???
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:50:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I have experienced the following serious bugs with System 6.0:
1. When a 3.5" disk is ejected, the hard drive icons on the desktop are 
"deselected" (as if they were ejected too), and the Finder proceeds
to request that I "Please insert" my hard drive.  The only way to get
around this, of course, is to reboot the machine.  The 3.5" disk does eject.

2. The Finder does not save its PREFERENCES, so that I have to reset them
each time.

3.  The Finder does not save the settings of the root directory of my
hard drives (e.g., icon positions, icon colors, etc.).

4. The Desktop setup is not saved either.

5. Trying to execute a BASIC program gives me the message "To run a PRODOS
application, the file must reside on a PRODOS volume." It does.

Please help!!!!!! Thanks.

Rami Levy

levy@green.cooper.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2