From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: The Voices of Women
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:51:11 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<1992Apr4.220244.10820@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) said:
>In <1992Apr04.192355.16079@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
>
>>In  <1992Apr4.145454.25907@cs.dal.ca>  franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>>> In <1992Apr3.111600.12898@hemlock.cray.com> mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson) writes:
>>> ><1992Apr3.132019.2384@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>
>>Maybe if you'd stop fighting against the availability of safe, legal
>>abortion, then we could stop fighting *for* it, and we could *both*
>>spend more time on other things.
>   Ahhh, stop fighting against abortio huh? If you can't beat 'em, join
>'em? No way... not till I die my friend. Heck the least I can do
>is donate a part of my life to saving millions... Seems like a fair
>trade to me. 

How about donating a small part of your body to save *one* life.  Go
donate that kidney.  Live up to your high sounding words.

...

>>Like you said, that's your opinion.  In my opinion, most women who choose
>>abortion do think long and hard about everything involved before making
>>that difficult decision.
>   I've seen many cases against it. I speak with women who have had abortions
>because I care about their point of view. Although some do enter the 
>process well aware and educated, there are some (many IMHO) who have
>been overwhelmed by the option and live to regret it (these are not
>a majority of religious women either)

"Overwhelmed by the option"?  What the hell does that mean?  These women
read about abortion and just ran right out to get pregnant so they could
give it a try?  If you want women more informed then fight for better
information to all women.

>>I agree with Muriel's assessment.  What she asked you to document, you
>>clueless twit, is what you said, which she *quoted* when she asked you
>>to document it, but which you deleted from your reply (presumably because
>>you can't document it).  Namely,
>   Larry, I am beginning to become offended. You provide few facts
>in your post, but you seem to think that insults make up for that. 

Answer the questions.

>If pro-choicers and pro-lifers continue to INSULt, DEGRADE, and 
>PATRONIZE, then you will see a fracture in society like you wouldn't
>believe. BUT, if we can find a solution to working together, then
>it could truly prove to be prosperous to both of us. Catholics
>want LESS abortions first and foremost. Surely you movement
>can accomadate that? If not, then work against us. I havne't seen
>my match in you yet...

Thank Satan!

[Larry's eloquent post deleted]
>
>   Ahhh, such eloquence in your post Larry. I am so glad I am dealing
>with a brilliant yet softly spoken mind as your own. Incedentally,
>you dont' know a damn thing about usenet... 

Ooh, here it comes...

>                                            The people who often
>get flamed are the ones that propose ideas and concepts that CAN"T
>be retalliated against. 

Yes, it is difficult to argue with people who, when asked to back up their
claims, say "because I said so", or "because [favorite deity] said so".
Ever argue with a child?  That's it exactly.

>                        I have seen many intelligent and well meaning
>posts get flamed because people couldn't say anything constructive
>avgainst them. 

Yeah, stop flaming me. ;-)

>               I'm afraid your shallow egg-shelled post could
>prove my point. Once again, I'm embarassed for the pro-choice movement
>after your post. While you are always on the offensive, I try my
>best to be on the defensive. Not even defending myself, but
>the RIGHTS of the UNBORN.

The "unborn" don't have any rights.  How can you defend what doesn't
exist, Mr Quixote?

>>> can assure you, I _AM_ you equal.
>>If I were Muriel, I'd feel very insulted.
>   Why would you be insulted? because som "anti-abortion dweeb" doesn't
>take your silly arguments seriously? Or it is because I am irrational
>and unsupportable, and provide "easily-disproved statements"...

Because you claim she is as stupid as you.

>  Listen man - you know why I delete parts of my post? I never let any
>post be more than 2 hierarchical levels deep. Period. Otherwise it
>becomes garbage to read... You don't like that? Save the other articles
>to refer to then...

It makes it easier to dodge the questions, doesn't it?


Gordon
Pro-abortion, Pro-person, Pro-women's-rights and ex-boyfriend of Susan,
Muriel, Cathi, and Nora, and married to the sweetest woman in the world,
and darn proud of it.
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