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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 1 Jan 1993 20:01:00 CST
From: Ty Warner <U40643@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: 12/27 NPR broadcast - ***TONES?
Distribution: usa

In article <Mike_Cahill-281292143646@128.96.93.93>,
Mike_Cahill@macbeth.bellcore.com (Mike Cahill) says:
>
>Does anybody know the name of the band who was featured live on NPR
>yesterday?  The broadcast was out of W Va.  The music was sort of
>"reggae-motown-country".  The group's name is the linktones, or cliftones,
>or something like that.
>
>Kind-hearted respondants, please mail instead of post.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

I didn't hear the broadcast.  It didn't happen to be "Flektones," as in
"Bella Flek and the Flektones," did it?  (Not quite sure of the
spelling.)  They/he do/does sort of banjo jazz, which is part country
and could be construed as reggae at times, I suppose.  Don't think it
would sound like Motown...
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: aa478@Freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Shuttle)
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:19:13 GMT


In reply to  article <BztzI6.2o0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> by
ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.ed
u (Iskandar Taib), which asked:
>
> OK... So whats a "Selkie"?
>
walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu writes that:
>
> A "seal" that can take on a human form 
> (They are both male and female)
> To entrap a real human
>

I agree with this, although I am familiar only with two versions
of the song which refer to "The Great Silkie" of "Sule Skerry".
Etymologically speaking, "Selkie" would support Walker's 
interpretation.  However, I am not certain that there is any
ill intent to "entrap" real humans.  After all, the Silkie in the
song allows himself to be killed by his lover's future husband --
to ensure her happiness?  Also, the intermarriage the song
alludes to indicates that the distinction between a Silkie and
a "real" human is not as clear as might be presumed.  Albert
Friedman's  _Viking_Book_of_Folk_Ballads_ states that:

  [Silkies are] enchanted creatures, they dwell in the
  depths of the seas, but they occassionally come on land,
  after doffing their sealskins, and pass as ordinary men.
  Many families in the Scottish Islands trace their ancestry
  to Sealmen, and because of a totemic taboo, will not
  taste seal meat.

Paul Shuttle                     aa478@Freenet.carleton.ca
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From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: Words (and chords?) to "Fair Flower of Northumberland"
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:58:52 GMT

scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:

>Looking for words and chords to a song -- the title was something
>like "Fair Flower of Northumberland"

It is a version of Child 9, and is on Peggy Seeger & Ewan MacColl's
record Blood and Roses, Vol. 2.  If you can't find it, let me know and
I'll post it.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: garry@ithaca.com (Garry Wiegand)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: Golden Manitee lyrics
Organization: Ithaca Software
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:47:16 GMT

In a recent article rsignell@crusty.er.usgs.gov (Richard P. Signell) wrote:
>Does anyone out there have the lyrics to The Golden Manitee?

I'm not positive we're speaking of the same song, but "The Golden
Vanity" can be found in the Child Ballads (don't recall the proper
title), which should be in any good university library. "The
Weep-Willow Tree" (very similar) can be found in John Jacob Niles'
book of American ballads, which is easier to find: it should be in
the library and also can often be found for sale new or used.

Like any respectable old ballad, it's pretty long and there are many
many different versions.

Garry Wiegand --- garry@ithaca.com --- Ithaca Software, Alameda, California
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Does Mary McCaslin NOW have a CD?
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:43:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I noticed at Tower Records there was a slot for Mary McCaslin in the CD
section.  Does this mean she has a CD out?

Thanks,  --Bill
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From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Does Mary McCaslin NOW have a CD?
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:38:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <billd.725395423@cheetah>, billd@informix.com (William Daul) writes:
> I noticed at Tower Records there was a slot for Mary McCaslin in the CD
> section.  Does this mean she has a CD out?
> 

Yes.  Her Greatest Hits.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Words (and chords?) to "Fair Flower of Northumberland"
Reply-To: s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:21:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.014656.10684@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
>Looking for words and chords to a song -- the title was something
>like "Fair Flower of Northumberland", and the tag line on each
>chorus was a minor variant of "and you're still the fair flower
>of Northumberland."  The story was that some handsome chieftan was
>captured but convinces the local noblemans daughter to free him.
>Has a nice pair of surprises at the end, neither of which I'll
>reveal here.  Ring any bells?  I've never heard it on record or
>radio, but the person who sang it claimed it was "traditional".
>I'd ask her myself, but haven't seen her in a decade or so.
>-- 
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> can Hell be far behind?"          |  tasted before!"  Mr Peanut to Candied
>      scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us	   |  Bergen in `Caramel Knowledge'


Dick Gaughan does a magnificent version of this song.  Sorry, I don't happen
to know which recording it's on, but any lover of folk music really should
try to get all his stuff, anyway.  I would also appreciate seeing all the
lyrics in print, as I've never quite been able to figure out all the song's
Scottishisms from listening alone.


Get down from your horse, yer a brazen-faced hoor,
Although yer the fleur a Northumberland.


michael mcdonald
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: sfy@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Shane Youl)
Subject: Re: ISB releases
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 04:48:04 GMT

dahe@cl.cam.ac.uk (David Elworthy) writes:

>Incidentally, the full list of ISB albums now on CD is: The 5000
>Spirits, Hangman, Wee Tam (but not The Big Huge yet), Liquid
>Acrobat, Earthspan, No Ruinous Feud, On Air (BBC Radio recordings),
>Live in concert (ditto), and the solo albums Smiling Men and Myrrh.

Just picked this up before Christmas (along with Myrrh - what a great
album) - "A Glint At The Kindling/Selected Writings 1980-83" TMC 9201,
distributed through Greentrax Recordings. 
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From: mikek@ios.Convergent.COM (Mike Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: And the Band Played Waltzing Mathilda
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:48:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys/Convergent, San Jose, CA

ugo@eng.umd.edu (Ugo Piomelli) writes:
>For I'll go no more Waltzing Mathilda
>All around the green bush far and near
>For to hunt and tend pigs ... a man needs both legs
>No more Waltzing Mathilda for me

?? just another one I've heard, I'm not sure...
-- 
Michael Koster,  mikek@ios.Convergent.COM
From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: chelsea morning on lp
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:16:29 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Dec27.4219.11876@dosgate>, howard.kaplan@canrem.com (howard kaplan) writes:
>>... CM was never released on an album in the 60's ... it felt like we
>>were being cheated when album after album came out and it was missing.
> 
> it didn't make sense to me, because the performance is too familiar
> and I didn't spend that much time listening to radio stations that
> played a lot of folk music (sigh!).  To confirm my sanity, I scoured
> my collection and found it on an LP called "Living", EKS-7504, with
> a copyright date of 1971.  If you subscribe to the theory that the
> 60s ended with Nixon's resignation in 1974, then this song was, in
> fact, released on an album in the 60's.
> 

It's nice to know it finally came out on an album, but it didn't come out
when it was supposed to.  "Wildflowers" came out; no CM.  "Who knows where the
time goes" came out; no CM.  "Whales and Nightingales" came out; no CM.  And
she's singing it for sound checks!  A lot of us got tired of waiting.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.british
From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell)
Subject: Re: UK CD price fixing
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:14:04 GMT

In <1992Dec30.125059.21998@rdg.dec.com> cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:


>Does anyone know if anything is being done to reduce the silly prices of
>UK CDs? I thought this was being investigated by the MMC. Anyway, I've

Hello,

Yes I got burnt on my first UK trip. Now I only buy stuff not available in the
US like Capercaillie's Delirium. Last summer when I bought it at the 12.99
pounds sterling price it was equivalent to 25 U.S. dollars. Now it is more like
21 dollars with the exchange rate. I wish more UK albums were available in the
US.

Boston is also fortunate in that celtic music has enough of a following to
have a section in the larger record stores.

I noticed prices of amatuer radio equipment are higher in the UK than the
U.S. It almost like they rub off the dollar sign and put the pound sign in
place of it.
73 Eric   eac@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Performer/lyrics of "Are You Happy Now?" ?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:35:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.191850.4430@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:

   Stuart R Ehrlich (ehrlich@world.std.com) wrote:
   : Our local folk show plays a tune by a solo male performer, the
   : chorus of which is "Are You Happy Now?".  The performer also gives
   : an intro, explaining his ex-girlfriend wondered why he never
   : wrote a song about her, so he did when they broke up.
   : 
   : Who is the performer and on what album?  (So I can purchase it and
   : get the lyrics, unless someone wants to post them.  Though I'll likely
   : purchase it anyway.)
   The name of the performer is Richard Shindell and the album is called
   _Sparrows Point_. I believe it is on Schanachi (SP?) label. It
   is not easy to find except in the Northeast from what I hear. I 
   have the album and it is excellent.

True, and it's a very impressive album, but the intro to the song
isn't on this album.  Just a wild guess, but I'd say that you're
referring to an earlier recorded version from some compilation,
most likely Fast Folk.  I found Sparrows Point at Tower in Boston
a few months ago on sale for $12, as was their entire stock of
Shanachie & Yazoo recordings.  (That was enough to convince me
to buy several.  I'm usually reluctant to buy Shanachie recordings
because they don't generally give you much information on the
cover.)


--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Subject: Re: Karla Bonoff
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:50:17 GMT

> F. Peter Symonds writes:
>
> What does she have out on CD?  Which one(s) would be a good warm up for
> the concert?

The only Karla Bonoff album I have is titled "Karla Bonoff". It's excellent.
I would be very surprised if it's not available on CD.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: huskymary (Sheila Lane)
Subject: Maritime Folk Performers
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Organization: Saint Mary's University Art Gallery
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:02:47 GMT

I represent three very talented Maritime Canadian Folk Performers.

Teresa Doyle is from Prince Edward Island and performs origianl and
traditional celtic music.  Her most recent recording "Forerunner" totters
on the "Celtic Fringe" Her performances have taken across Canada to many
major folk festivals.  In February '93 she will be touring in Japan.

The Rose Vaughan Trio feature the songs of singer/songwriter Rose Vaughan. 
rose is now a grandmother and shares with us her thoughts as a women has
has experienced or observed a very colorful live.  The music can be
described as folk/jazz.

Laura Smith is another very talented songwriter whose engaging performances
draw the audience in and embraces them in thought.

Each of these performers will be on tour in Canada in '93 and would like to
tour throughout the United States if possible.

For more information write to
Local Motion Production Co.
Site 4, P.O.Box 41, RR #5,
Armdale, Nova Scotia, B3L 4J5
Canada
Tel 902-868-2245

To receive a catalogue of their recordings and other Maritime artists write
Ground Swell Records
P.O.Box 245, Central Station,
Halifax, Nova Scotia B3J 2N7
Canada
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Looking for "Christmas in the Trenches"
From: choover@charlie.usd.edu (Christopher J. Hoover)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:33:57 GMT
Reply-To: choover@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

Very sorry if this request is off topic for rec.music.folk (more appropriate, I
suppose, for the tablature groups, and I _have_ posted a request there, too),
but it's a bit of an emergency situation.   I would dearly love to get my hands
on the chords and perhaps some tablature for John McCutcheon's "Christmas in
the Trenches" before Christmas Day.  If anyone might have them, please post
them to here, or more appropriately, rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature, for the
benefit of all, not just li'l' old me.

Thanks in advance to anyone who might have them,

Chris

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Where could I find (Re: Celtic Music)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:17:03 GMT

jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
: I as wondering if there is a special mail order company that is dedicated
: (or just targeted toward) to the distribution of Folk music, etc.  I am
: having a heck of a time trying to locate any.

If there were a FAQ for this group (anyone volunteering?), this would
definitely be question number 1, or maybe 0.  My FA to it: try Down Home
Music, in El Cerrito, California.  They do lots of mail order business
and are very thoroughly stocked and knowledgeable.  Their number is
(510) 525-2129.  I am, as usual, not affiliated or anything; just a
satisfied customer.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:51:59 GMT

agauld@gssec.bt.co.uk (Alan Gauld):
>And the version I have has the following last verse:
>
>And she has married a gunner good
>And a gye good gunner so was he			
>And the very first shot that ever he fired
>killed the son and the grey silkie

I believe this is an add-on to the 1852 version.  It's a virtual repeat
of the preceeding verse, and it weakens its impact, but some singers
insist on spelling everything out.  There's yet another add-on verse
that sometimes appears, in which the gunner brings home the silkie's
locket or whatever, and the mother's heart then breaks into however
many pieces fit the rhyme-scheme.

Child refers to his version as a Shetland ballad whose spelling was
'Scotticized' for publication.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

Roses red and violets blew
  and all the sweetest flowres that in the forrest grew -- Edmund Spenser
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart)
Subject: Re: Folk music from Israel
Keywords: israel folk pop music
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:53:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.095441.18650@pony.Ingres.COM> jonm@Ingres.COM 
(Don't Judge a book by your cover) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.080957.25305@netcom.com>, 
>eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart) writes...
>>A friend of mine (who's from Israel) just gave me a birthday present of a
>>tape by an Israeli artist called Yehuda Poliker.  Apparently this guy is a
>>pretty huge star over there, and his concerts draw big crowds.
>
>Yehuda Poliker I believe was born in Greece/Cyprus and then moved to Israel
>when he was young.  Therefore he still has a lot of Greek roots.

Thanks for the information.  

>>The album I have is called FOR YOUR BLUE EYES, and the label is NMC.  It
>>apparently is available on CD, although I have a cassette.  Other than
>
>I think you will find that the cassete is called "Your Eyes".   If you post
>the words I could translate them for you.  Saves me sitting down with the
>cassette.

Nope.  There isn't much English on the cassette, and all that I can read
is what says YEHUDA POLIKER - FOR YOUR BLUE EYES.  Thanks for the
translation offer, but all of the printed lyrics are in Hebrew.  That'd
make it a tad difficult for me to post ...

I'm off to find a CD of this!

Cheers,

Chuck
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From: wd5j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: New Age vs Enya & Clannad
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:52:40 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <16112@auspex-gw.auspex.com>,
johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes: 
> In article <10763@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson) writes:
>  
> |New Age is some of the most atrocious "music" I have heard, seeming to  
> |begin from the false hypothesis that you can create something entirely  
> |"new" without any influences.
> 
> You haven't listened to too much new age music have you?  Nor do you seem
> to know that the musicians creating this thing called "new age" music did
> not up with the name "new age".  I'm not going to list a bunch of artists
> but there is a lot of music which is classified under some marketing types
> definition of new age music.  The actual style is quite broad.  Like any 
> genre some of it's crap.  
> 
> |Enya on the other hand, has a very modern  
> |sounding music, with a very "new" sound, but she is entirely true to her  
> |folk roots, and does not make the pretentious claim of having created  
> |something "new".  
> 
> To me Enya sounds new because her vocals almost sound as if they are sampled
> and are just being played on a keyboard.  I also find her boring.   
> 
> -- 
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> +==========================================================================+
What could sound more boring than typical new age music?  Boopsie, in the
Doonesbury strip, called it "air pudding", with which I totally agree. Ugh.

Ilana Reisner
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: hakari@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (The Conformist Contrabass Clarinetist)
Subject: Looking for lyrics...
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:30:34 GMT




	HELP!!!  I need the lyrics to a couple British Isles folk songs,
	specifically "Bugelioi'r Gwenith Gwyn"(sp?) and "Nae Luck About
	the House".  These are 2 cuts from the King's Singers "Watching
	the White Wheat".   The first song is Welsh, and the other is 
	Scottish.  I would ask my voice prof, who undoubtedly knows the
	lyrics, but I will not see Tony until February.  Help is deeply
	appreciated.   Oh yeah, and if anyone knows where I could get
	sheet music/music books of any King's Singers stuff, let me know
	about that too.  "Lamorna" and "O Waly Waly" are 2 awesome tunes,
	and I want to have at least these on file when i'm out teaching.
	Thanks much for help!


						--ContraManiac
						  ^^^^^^^^^^^^Go ahead, 
								finger me  8-)
From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Maritime Folk Performers
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:14:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Dec27.171457.24771
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <huskymary-211292195952@aphrodite.stmarys.ca> huskymary (Sheila Lane) writes:
>I represent three very talented Maritime Canadian Folk Performers.
>
>Teresa Doyle is from Prince Edward Island and performs origianl and
>traditional celtic music.  Her most recent recording "Forerunner" totters
>on the "Celtic Fringe" Her performances have taken across Canada to many
>major folk festivals.  In February '93 she will be touring in Japan.

Maybe the Fringe designation explains why the local daytime folk programs
haven't played that much of her...they're woefully fringe-shy.

Except for 'Haul the Jib', which I believe is by Doyle & on the Forerunner
album??

Great song, matter-of-fact turn on the ghost-ship legends,
related by a delightful voice in an almost gleeful 
"I *warned* you not to ignore that ghost-ship's message" manner.

Striking instrumental backing as well; I think this is the song with the
whole other melody rising up during the 'storm' part?
(been a while since I've heard it)
From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Modes; was: Re: Reading music - book sought.
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:28:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Dec22.212858.18273
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <1992Dec19.110032.20693@yang.earlham.edu> johnl@yang.earlham.edu (John Fiskio-Lasseter) writes:

->Sometime around the the beginning of the 10th century, the first form of 
->poliphony was introduced to western music -- organum.  In its earliest 

Do you know from where?
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.german