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From: mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:12:36 GMT

In article <Bto1zt.67@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!) writes:
> In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu>, DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu (Dave Gerber) writes...
>>I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
>>week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
>>of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
>>a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
>>two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
>>has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
>>Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
>>originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
>>anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they
> 
> 	You probably got the original Kill 'em All which was released by
> Megaforce records, but when Metallica signed with Elecktra, all of the old
> Megaforce records were taken off the market, and the new Elecktra version which
> includes Blitzkrieg and Am I Evil wqs put on the market.  I have an original
> Megaforce copy too, and I think that they may be worth more than the Elecktra
> version which has been flooded into the market since Metallica became a major
> band and came out from the underground. 

Here in Holland all versions of Kill'em All are without 
Blitzkrieg and Am I evil? This is true for the vinyl versions and 
when I replaced my worn out tape for a cd I could not find a 
version with Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg. 


    Mike
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica:1230 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:9728
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:57:04 EDT
From: <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!

I was just in our local record shop here in State College and saw a CD of
MetallicA live from somewhere in Canada, called "MetallicA Totally Destroys
Canada" or something to that effect.  It looked to have EVERYTHING they did
in the 180 minute version of a Montreal show I have (taped from the audience
using DAT) and then a few covers and/or unreleased songs I'd never heard of.
The record store wanted a whopping $52 for it!  The guy working there said it
had great sound, but I don't trust it unless I hear it first.  Has anyone else
seen or heard of this?  It has a picture of James gritting his teeth on the
cover (like most MetallicA bootlegs).  ANother thing of concern...if their show
is something like 180minutes, how can you fit all that onto one CD (it wasn't
in the standard double CD case).  Don't CD's have a max time of 85 min. or so?
Sounds shifty to me...anyway, I just wondered if anyone knew how rare this may
be or whatever.  Thanks in advance for any info.
                                                -Bill
"Sleep with one eye open..."
From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: To mosh, or not to mosh
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:08:36 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I just got my tickets to the September 17 show at Arrowhead Stadium in
KC and I'm really ready to blow off some steam.  The person who called
for tickets (a converted Country-western fan) said we got Gen.
Admission on the field.  I'm curious about something.  To all who've
seen this tour so far, were there chairs in G.A. or was there an
active mosh pit.  I'm hoping for the latter, just so that I can watch
the faces of all the "new fans" when MetallicA fu*king destroys the
myth that they sold out (at least as far as playing in concert).  I 
especially want to see anything from MOP, their best stuff IMHO, and
watch the teeny-bops and their parents gasp (insert James laughing at
the end of "Master of Puppets").







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From: TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Origin question
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:02:12 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

OK, flame me later for not cross-posting it, but I made a post on alt.rn'r.metl
asking if Kirk is an original member of Metallica,since someone on the net said
Metallica wasn't a real band 'cause of that reason, in reply to some G N' R
comment.  It's under the subject heading "Re.Axl's departure" or something like
that.   Anyway, if any of you come across it and know what I'm asking...you
know what to do.  Thanks.
                         Bill
"When a man lies, he murders some part of the world"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cl129501@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Metallica in Louisville
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:25:51 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Does anyone know whether Faith No More, METALLICA, and Guns N' Roses are coming
at or near Louisville, Kentucky?

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From: garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary)
Subject: Re: Sandman Interpretations
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.125003.1@mscf.med.upenn.edu> kaya@mscf.med.upenn.edu writes:
>I think you're getting confused between the visual interpretations of the video 
>and the lyrics of the song.
>
>I think the song is about the fears that are forced on kids by adults - for 
>instance, the bedtime prayer
>
>Now I lay me down to sleep
>I pray the Lord my soul to keep
>If I die before I wake
>I pray the Lord my soul to take
>
Yes, I whole heartedly agree.  Also think about this 
	Rock-a-by baby
	In the tree tops
	When the wind blows 
	The craddle will rock
	When the bow breaks 
	The craddle will fall
	And down will come baby
	Craddle and all.
Pretty intense shit.	

>This is pretty heavy stuff for a kid to go to bed thinking about.
>
>I think that you're right the video is about themes in nightmares that are 
>pretty much universal.
>
>My problem is trying to figure out correlation between "unforgiven"-the song 
>and "unforgiven" the-video.
> 
I had no problems correlating the video with the song.  The song is
about an adult suppressing his childhood inocense because that's not how
adults are suppost to act. However the child decides to retain it
instead of lossing it so he can be free when he's older(retired, etc)
only to realize he did loss it.
In the video the child blocks himself in the water reservoir for his
adult years and then trys to emerge when he's older only to realize he
can't "The old man then prepares to die regretfully".
Just an opinion.

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| She told me to come,      |  Judge not lest ye  |  Sometimes all of  |
| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|
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From: stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Subject: Re: Sandman Interpretations
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:25:25 PDT

In article <7527@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>While we're on this thread, does anybody have an interpretation
>for "Enter Sandman"?  I think it's about Hetfield's disillusionment
>as a child with his "churchy" upbringing, and how nightmares haunted
>him until the "sandman" (Satan) comes.  Judging by the video, M.'s
>message is good, innocence vs. evil, fear, that sort of thing.
>
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I don't see the song or the video having anything to do with
disillusionment, religion, good, evil, or Satan. I just thought it was
about the fears that we all have that show up in our dreams.

When I was in junior high--well over a decade ago--I read a book that
mentioned some common fears that supposedly show up in all people's
dreams. I think the book was "The Dragons of Eden" by Carl Sagan. I
thought about it when I saw the "Enter Sandman" video. It shows fear
of the dark, fear of falling, fear of drowning, fear of reptiles, etc.
I think Sagan says that these imagines come into our dreams from parts
of the brain that developed hundreds of thousands of years ago. (I'm a
programmer with degrees in astrophysics, not a psychologist, so don't
flame me if this doesn't make sense).

Stephen
From: kevin.christensen@madness.network23.com (Kevin Christensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: RE: METALLICA TAPES NEEDE
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: kevin.christensen@madness.network23.com (Kevin Christensen) 

        Yeah, I remember the tape recorder, but I don't remember the
camera.. Oh well...
/s
                                    
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: selent@fraser.sfu.ca (Frank S.)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:24:25 GMT

In article <Bto9rL.24z@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
>>week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
>>of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
>>a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
>>two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
>>has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
>>Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
>>originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
>>anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they
>>exist.  Thanks.
>>======================================================================
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>
>	Well, when Kill 'Em All was first released, it appeared on the
>Megaforce Record label.  Later when Metallica moved to Electra Records,
>they added the two songs from the Creeping Death E.P..  So I assume if you
>check the label, it will say Megaforce instead of Electra!  I would keep it
>if I were you, I had a bitch of a time trying to track down the Megaforce
>copy on tape!  If it says Electra, well... I'm stumped!
>

The reason, as I heard, is because of copyright laws or some shit like that.
MetallicA didn't receive permission to use those songs.  The same reason
is why you no longer can find the Garage Days $5.98 Ep, since all the
songs are covers.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: "Trapped Under Ice"/Escape
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:53:26 GMT

In article <7516@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>>
>>Really? I was reading through some old Creem metal magazines and Lars said
>>it was about Cryogenics. Oh well, you have a valid interpretation.
>>
>no, that's cool, if Lars said it, it's true.  I was just reading between
>the lines a little bit, and was thinking of other Metallica songs which
>have serious undertones of being oppressed.
>
>Q. What do you think  "escape" is about?
>
>
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>Beer Lover By Choice                       Computer User By Fortune

I have always considered "Escape" to be an attempt at pop metal by the band.
James said in interviews around that time, that they had tried to be really
commercial with one song on "RTL", and that it hadn't worked at all. 
"Escape" always seemed, to me, to be the song that he was referring to.
I have an interpretation, but it is a very personal one.
It seems to me that they are describing the frustration of being in a 
situation that you hate <such as a loser of a small town>, and finally
breaking out, or at least wanting to.
As I said this is a very personal interpretation, of a song that I don't
really think is all that good. Everything here, as always, is IMHO.
Thanks for the response!

					--Judex--
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:43:13 EDT
From: <JOB102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Song after Green Hell

At the very end of the Garage Days tape/CD there is a few second piece that
sounds like Iron Maiden's Run to the Hills.  Does anyone know if that's what
it is and why the whole thing isn't included?
From: ak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Kendric Beachey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica/Faith No More tour dates
Date: 28 Aug 1992 00:58:28 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


Metallica and G'n'R (I think without Faith No More) are playing 
Arrowhead Stadium on September 17, for all you in the area.
-- 
  Kendric Beachey a.k.a. A. K.                                               
    ak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu                      331 N 17                       
    ak@ksuvm.ksu.edu                         Manhattan, KS 66502           
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cl129501@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Searching for Metallica GIFs!
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:37:28 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Does anyone have or know of any FTP sites where I could get some Metallica
GIFS?  TIFFs, JPGs, and the like are also acceptable.  THANK YOU!


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From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: RE: METALLICA TAPES NEEDE
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> Well I have the concert on tape.  I taped it, the quality isn't the
-> best , but you can understand them.
->
-> The quality "isn't the best"???  That's a bit of an understatement,
-> isn't it Mike??

Parts of it are ok, other parts suck.
              
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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:48:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.170204.385@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.162054.928@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu
>(Your Heinous) writes:
>>
>>I have some old copies of "Metal Forces" where they are talking to the
>>Lead Singer of BlitzKrieg, and he was quite grateful that Metallica
>>had done that song. Since Metallica has given Diamondhead some long 
>>overdue recognition <as well as getting their material back in print>
>>I don't think so. The "Creeping Death/Garage Days Re-Visited" 12'
>>was put out by Elektra, and they would not have released unauthorized
>>versions. Besides, permission is not truly required, as long as the
>>fees on the songs are paid. Lars said the hardest thing about the "Garage
>>Days Re-Re-Visited" EP, was finding the guys, so they could pay them.
>>The "Garage Days Re-Re-Visited" EP has never been re-issued, but
>>since it was all cover tunes, and a "fill-in" relelase to break
>>in Jason Newstead, I am not suprised. They didn't need "permission"
>>they just had to pay for the songs. Thats what ASCAP and BMI are for.
>>
>>					--Judex--
>>P.S. Anyone have a nice copy of "Garage Days RE-RE-Visited"? I had gone
>>through 4 of them, before I got one that wasn't defective, and I hear that
>>that was a common problem. I was buying it on vinyl and one side always
>>skipped...
>
>Vinyl??  Good luck finding much on that format.  (Not a slam, but the closest
>store I know of that sells new vinyl is in Austin, and San Antonio ain't all
>that small.)  As far as other formats, I keep hearing people say how this is
>so hard to find, but Columbia House had it in their last catalog (CD or tape).
>I can't believe it's out of print, CH still offers it.
>
>						-Tom
>-- 
>Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
>This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
>Any Questions?
>"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"

I have one. I said it took me 4 copies to get a good one. I was just curious
if anyone else had the same problem with it. Course, you are right. Vinyl
is an endangered species. Gee, the closest store I know of that sells it
is practically down the road, and I know lots of others here. New and used.
Of course, every new Musicland, Title Wave, etc..., is just another nail in
the coffin of the local record/CD/Cassette/Music shop.
I had heard that it was out of print, but I could be wrong. I haven't
seen it in a while, though. Columbia House is a great service sometimes,
if for no other reason than they make their own CD's/Albums/Cassettes, and
albums, etc... can sometimes be found through them after the Label has
quit selling it to stores. But we don't know if it is out-of-print.

					--Judex--
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: RE: METALLICA TAPES NEEDE
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> Are they still allowing taping?
->
-> Yeah.  As a matter of fact, some private distributor in my area is
-> offering three hours of footage from the show in Providence on
-> February 29th this year.  Some amount in the neighborhood of $20.  If
-> it matters, I was there and it was a damned good show.

Well I have the concert on tape.  I taped it, the quality isn't the best
, but you can understand them.
From: girel@Rational.COM (Vivian Girel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Concerts
Keywords: When, Where
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:29:10 GMT
Organization: Rational


Hi folks !

Could someone mail me or post here the dates and the places in California of 
M's concerts from now to January ?
(I've just arrived in the USA)

Thanks a lot.


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From: c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: To mosh, or not to mosh
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:17:27 GMT
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

In article <1992Aug31.010836.42671@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>the end of "Master of Puppets").
>
At the New Jersey Giants stadium (outdoors), they had a floor put down,
and chairs in the front, and an open "mosh" space in the back.  G.A. looked
pretty calm compared to my out-of-their-fucking-minds stadium mates in the
lower mezzanine...
...but did I care? Metallica was onstage!!!

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