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From: David.Jackson@f99.n215.z1.fidonet.org (David Jackson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Exception dictionaries
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:11:42 GMT
Reply-To: David.Jackson@f99.n215.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:215/99 - Blink Connection, San Leandro CA

Index Number: 21130

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello Rick; I am David jackson.  I am currently using Vocal-Eyes
which has an exception dictionary which is altered by using an
editor like EDLIN or Word Perfect 5.0's program editor.  Then, to
use the new changes you must re-boot the system.  It is limited to
a file size of 4608 bytes.  Of course, the amount of words which
are in it is decided by the length of each entry within the
exception dictionary.  I have also worked with VERTPLUS at where I
work, (Pacific Bell) it is limited to 100 entries and can be
altered and then the changes can be used without re-booting the
system.

What some people don't realize with an exception dictionary like
the one for VERTPLUS, is that true it has foom for 100 entries;
but: you don't always get 100 entries because it can only support
1200 characters in the dictionary!  Which means: that you can run
out of space in the dictionary and still be told by the system that
there are only 70- entries but 0 characters available in the
dictionary!  I have also used JAWS version 1.66 which works
basically the same as the one in VERTPLUS.  But it has twice the
amount of entries available to the user.  Now I haven't seen it
yet, but I've been told that the dictionary in the very latest
version of JAWS is user definable as far as the size of the
exception dictionary goes!

I've used all tree of these that I've mentioned enough to know that
out of these three screen reading software packages, I prefer
Vocal-Eyes 2.0 even though you have to re-boot the system to use
the new dictionary entries.  The reason that I prefer it over
VERTPLUS or JAWS is because I prefer the command structure and
features which it has.  With Vocal-Eyes, it is easier to change the
reading hotkeys and windows and it has a lot of very powerful
features built right into it.  I could go on, but this should be
enough for what you want to know.

Dave Jackson.

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From: John.Linko@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Audism
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:59:42 GMT
Reply-To: John.Linko@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21059

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

If you are concerned about the "hits" you are taking, perhaps you
should evaluate the rhetoric you are dishing out, even if it is
coming from other sources.

I am married to a hearing-impaired woman who was taught in an
"oral" setting. So, despite the challenges thrust upon her by
forces beyond anyone's control, she has been taught to speak. She
does this rather well. I admire her for this. I do not consider her
better than other hearing-impaired persons, yet my admiration for
her abilities is labeled as something akin to racism. I do not
consider her inferior, yet a general statement is made that those
hearing persons who taught her have MISLED her and her parents into
believing that she would be happier by speaking. And despite all of
these "injustices", she and I both have good jobs, a house, and a
beautiful baby boy.

Although I haven't been following this thread lately, I have to
take issue with the pessimistic tone that accompanies these types
of attacks on the nature of Deaf education in this country.  As
"just a spouse" and not a credentialed professional, I may only
have a one-sided view of the issue, but it appears to be the one
side that you have not considered. I do not consider my wife to be
a "victim" of Audism; I consider her more of a testimonial to the
potential of ORALISM, which is defined by Webster as "advocacy or
use of the oral method of teaching the deaf".

If you are going to relate the definition of Audism to the
definition of Racism, I must relate the definition of Oralism to
the definition of Feminism, "the theory of the political, economic,
and social equality of the sexes". As far as I am concerned, a Deaf
person can relate their educational experience and cultural
background to the Audism/Racism or Oralism/Feminism models. In
fact, there may be as many interpretations of one's educational and
cultural influences as there are Deaf people. Your attempt to make
them all accede to your model of cultural "assignment" is an
example of how narrow-minded some segments of the so-called "deaf
culture" can be.  JL

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From: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Sign Fonts for Print Shop
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:46:58 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21227

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

[Note from Bill McGarry -- this will be on my BBS and on
the handicap.shel.isc-br.com ftp archives by Friday, April 17]

Carolyn Dudas recently wrote:

 CD> Well, I found the catalog, but the sign fonts are for a program
 CD> called First Publisher.  However, there might be a graphics
 CD> conversion package that you could use that could translate it
 CD> into something you could use with Print Shop.

I uploaded a fingerspelling font for First Publisher to 129/26.
It's in File Area 6 named FINGER.FNT (8153 bytes) where it can be
DLed or FREQed.

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From: Bryna.Stevens.@hnews.fidonet.org f8.n10.z1 (Bryna Stevens 914/216)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Voice computers or what
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:01:13 GMT
Reply-To: Bryna.Stevens.@hnews.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:10/8 - The RBBS-NET Gatewa, Colton CA

Index Number: 20900

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

-> If they have >some< sight, a Macintosh might do them better because
-> you

I think this person has some sight, but he says it's getting worse.
I have an Amiga and that works OK because I can get larger fonts on
the monitor. For some reason a Mac didn't do too well for me. I
don't own a Mac but tried playing a game on someone's. My neck hurt
and I had trouble seeing things on the screen. Sometimes you never
know till you try something.

-> Stuff like that's also available for the IBM Personal COmputer (and
-> 100% compatibles, of course), if you can deal with running
-> Windows, which is a hellish process in and of itself.

What's wrong with Windows? I thought it might be something like the
Amiga which works from icons? Some people say it wouldn't work as
well, but others say that's not true. What's the problem using
Windows, if you know.

 # Origin: Coconino County BBS *415-861-8290* San Francisco, CA (8:914/216)

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From: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Blue Hope
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21230

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 AS> Apparently you don't noticed that those who speak with an
 AS> accent or are talking in foreign languages seem to roll their
 AS> tongues a bit differently.

Annie, do you remember the talk by Davilla (Asst. Sec. of Education)
at the LR SHHH convention.  I recall that you said you knew him, and
that he is prelingually deaf.  But he spoke with a Hispanic accent!
(This according to Ret - I'm not very good at identifying accents :-)

How does anyone develop a regional or foreign accent if they never
heard it ???

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From: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: modifying walkman for RFB tapes
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:49:13 GMT
Reply-To: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Organization: California State University, Chico
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 21004

It's not as easy to modify a standard stereo cassette machine to play
NLS tapes as you might think.  Standard stereo cassettes have the left
and right channels on ajoining tracks so that when they are played on a
mono player both channels can be heard, or at least one won't be heard
backward.  NLS format tapes have tracks 1 and 3 going in the same
direction like the reel to reel stereo format.  This means that the
right channel will be backward, as you probably already know if you have
tried listening to a NLS format tape (also used by RFB) on a stereo
cassette machine.  You could cut off the right channel and hear the left
one okay, but you wouldn't be able to get the right one.  You would have
to move the head down when listening to the right channel, or get a head
with the right spacing.

I'm not familiar with the Bookman, but the Handi-cassette from APH is a
nice player/recorder and it cost around $125 when I got mine 4 years ago
I think.

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From: Rollie.Hudson@p0.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Rollie Hudson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: To tell, or not to tell...
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:30:37 GMT
Reply-To: Rollie.Hudson@p0.f15.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/15.0 - St Joes Hospital, Phoenix AZ

Index Number: 21164

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi David,
I would not pay a visit to a customer without informing them ahead of
time about blindness. Instead, I would mention it by phone--saying I
feel my blindness has forced me to observe every detail of my work
therefore I feel I am well qualified to share all this info with those I
teach. I'm sure with some thought you will come up with something much
better. When I had music pupils in Chicag -this is the approach I used.
Best wishes.. Rollie

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From: Paul.Guido@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Guido)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: school idea
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:13:03 GMT
Reply-To: Paul.Guido@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 21077

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 SK>  why not have a class that tought braille to sighted
 SK> people.
 SK> what do you all thank.

in my case i find when people want to get to know me they usually ask if
i would teach them braille.  i say sure but if you don't use it you lose
it.  so what do i think?  i don't see a great demand for it even though
intentions were good but if you see otherwise go for it.  heck i know
braille and hardly use it myself because speech technology is so
available.

... nothing is impossible

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Braille Signs
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:29:40 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20962

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Below is the news release recently sent out from Raised Dot
Computing about Braille signs for businesses:

408 South BALDWIN 9 MADISON, WISCONSIN 53703 0 608-257-9595

     CONTACT:                                           David Holladay

         Raised Dot Computing, Inc.

               (800) 347-9594

     FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

     RAISED DOT COMPUTING SIGNS LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH
     LAMRO FOR BRAILLE SIGN MAKING SYSTEM

MADISON, WI., January 22, 1992 -- Raised Dot Computing, a
pioneering firm in braille translation has licensed its braille
translation system to Lamro Inc of Mesa AZ.  Lamro is mow marketing
a braille package for engraving machines.. Those in the printing or
sign-making trades can use the Lamro package to make braille signs
with their engraving machines.  Braille signs are now required as
part of the ADA law, so this development is very timely.

The braille sign package costs $495 from Lamro.  If it is purchased
before the end of February, 1992, the price is only $395.  Lamro
can be reached at (800) 525-2676 voice; (602)      835-7984 fax.
All inquires about making braille signs with engraving machines
should be directed to Lamro, Inc.

The braille conforms to standards for grade II.  You do not have to
worry about contractions (braille abbreviations).  The software
takes care of all the details.

Microcomputer Access for the Visually Impaired

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: ansi.sys and dos v5.x
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:36:49 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20948

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 >DOS 5.0 will not allow you to use the old Anssi.sys, which you may have
 >already found out.  Youcan use Ansi.com instead, TSI says, at least.  I
 >just ignore the extra letters that are sommehow being generated.
 >

Yet another case of TSI passing out incorrect information.  I have
been using ANSI.SYS from DOS 3.3 with my MS DOS for at least 7 to 8
months with no problems.  Whoever told you from TSI that the DOS
3.3 ANSI.SYS won't work with DOS 5.0 doesn't know what they are
talking about.  This ranks right up there with the TSI story that
Phoenix Bios is necessary or at least preferable for use with the
Calera board. The fact is that Phoenix Bios has a number of
problems and is almost gone.  I know of several people who took the
TSI advice to buy Phoenix Bios computer systems and couldn't use
their scanners until they changed their motherboard and got rid of
the Phoenix Bios.  Why doesn't that company check things out more
carefully before they start passing out incorrect information.

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From: Nancy.Feldman@p0.f605.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Feldman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Discover Article
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:58:55 GMT
Reply-To: Nancy.Feldman@p0.f605.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/605.0 - Purgatory BBS, Salem OR

Index Number: 20893

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

A friend of mine told me that he saw an article in the December Discover
discussing speech software that allowed the blind computer user to use
Windows and other similar programs.  Does anyone have a copy of this
article in a format I can read?  Does anyone know which speech synthesizers
the program would work with?  Does anyone know anythig about this?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Warfare is the most important stat!

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From: Linda.Iverson@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Iverson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Double Talk
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:19:33 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Iverson@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX

Index Number: 20919

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Phil, I am currently using DoubleTalk with ASAP.  I like DoubleTalk very
much.  I realize speech is subjective and what pleases my hearing may
not please someone else, but for its price I think it can't be beat, as
they say.  If you have questions call or we can go into chat mode if
you're available next time I call your board.
     Say hi to Sandy.
     Linda

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From: Nancy.Feldman@p0.f605.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Feldman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Shopping
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: Nancy.Feldman@p0.f605.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/605.0 - Purgatory BBS, Salem OR

Index Number: 21159

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

OK, here's another one of my crazy questions.  For those of you living
alone, or those who do the shopping in a larger household, how do you
handle it?  For example, if you needed to do a major grocery shopping, what
would you do?  Would you seek the help of a sighted friend?  Someone in the
store itself?  Have someone shop for you (one of those shopping services)?
Or would you attempt to do it yourself?

Thanks in advance.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Walk softly and carry a megawatt laser.

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From: Stu.Turk@p2.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Anybody who are deaf-blin
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:00:03 GMT
Reply-To: Stu.Turk@p2.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.2 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 20994

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 > EM: living etc..., I am currently president of British Columbia
 > EM: Association of the Deaf-Blind, local of Greater Vancouver
 > EM: area in Canada under Canadian National Society of the Deaf-Blind,

 > GG:    Could you please provide contact information about your organization

I don't know about the Canadian one that Eddie belongs to, but are
you aware of the American Association of the Deaf Blind, 814 Thayer
Ave, Silver Spring MD 20510 (sorry I don't have phone number
handy.)

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From: Bill.Freeman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Car rental
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:05:04 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Freeman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 20873

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

->    If you make your needs known they will help.  I rented a car in
-> Philadelphia several years ago and they took my bags to the car,
-> brought the car from the lot, and helped my attendent store the chair
-> in the trunk.  Some advance warning is nice and you can even arrange
-> it ahead of time with the airline and the car rental.  At Philly,
-> arriving from Orlando on Delta, Delta handled our bags to the car
-> rental clerk, who in turn had our reservations and a man from the
-> storage lot waiting for us.

Thanks for the reply, Joe.

When I arrived at Dallas, and again at LAX, I took a wheelchair ride to
baggage off the plane. I have about 100 yards of walking I can do in any
1 hour period without really ruining a set of clothes with sweat. It
really worried me because not having used the chairs before (I did ALOT
of walking on my Europe Tour last year - my last major travel - and I
paid a price for it: not able to get around later; when I wanted too
most!) I didn't know if I should tip the fellow pushing me around, or
how much was appropriate. I gave them $3-$5, according on how far we had
to go, and how long they stayed with me. I also tipped the SkyCabs, that
helped with the baggage. However, I didn't get any help after I left the
airport - I was on my own. I asked the shuttle driver, and he said he
couldn't leave the shuttle. I ended up just doing as best I could, and
it all worked out. If I'd have had a bit more help, I wouldn't have
broke a sweat at all... but life goes on...

The thought of what will happen to me if (and when) I ever become unable
to walk at all is terrifying. It makes me very thankful that I do have
the capacity to walk on demand. It is a real eye-opener to the
inaccessability in the travel business...

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From: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Matzura)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Unix stuff
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:05:50 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Matzura@f203.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/203 - The Shop Mail Only, Flushing NY

Index Number: 21193

 > eriously, do you find that speech works as well with unix as with dos
 > or maybe even better?

First off, there ain't no such thing as speech with Unix--not on
the same computer, anyway.  You need another second computer to
access the first through a serial port.   This is because in the
Unix operating system, everything--your terminal, every device on
the system including disks, everything--is controlled, each and
every time you begin or end a dialogue with that device, by a
separate "process", which goes away after you "close" the device,
and a new one is created every time you begin a dialogue or "open"
a device.  This means that, for all intents and purposes, speech
boards generally don't work well with Unix, even if somebody writes
a custom device driver for the board, which has been done with very
limited success.

If you want to access a Unix system like you access your DOS
system, you take your DOS system over to the Unix system (either
physically or electronically by dialing it up on a telephone line
just like you would a BBS) and log in using a terminal program like
ProComm, Telix, etc.

You see, the reason we have what we have with our speechware is
because in a DOS environment you can control everything from the
same "process" because in DOS there is only one process and it does
and knows all.  In Unix, everything is farmed out to different
processes which come and go as they are needed.  That's why Unix is
a true multi-processing operating system, not just a task-swapper
like DOS or a time-slicer like OS/2 or Desqview.  It's a whole
'nother world, with different (and, I must tell you, rather
cryptic) terse two- or three-letter commands that, frankly, when I
first got involved in it, sounded like another language!  Now that
I've been using it for about eight or nine years, it's almost
second nature and I catch myself going to DOS systems and saying
"Gee, where's lex and yak and sed and vi, and what happened to my
wild-carding, and where's mv, and why doesn't DOS's batch language
have better if-then syntax?  OH YEAH!!!  This ain't Unix here!!!"

Steve Matzura

Via: FrontDoor 2.02

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