From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Re; Unreadable poems [sci-anon-poster] [sci-poster]
Originator: sehari@vincent2.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:26:20 GMT

In <lm8dqqINNje5@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> etxmajz@solsta.ericsson.se (Majid Zolfaghari  TX/DKG) writes:

>Because of some technical disaster (I could not post it
>directly), I must mail this article using "sci-poster@handel.sun.com".
>I hope that it will not apear as an anonymous-sender article.

>In-reply-to: sehari@iastate.edu's message of 22 Jan 93 14:24:02 GMT
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
>Subject: Re: Unreadable poems [sci-anon-poster]
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>> This poem sucks! It does not rim, it is not intellectual. It can be 
>> characterized with one word "Bullshit".
>> 
>>                    With highest regards,
>>                         Babak   Sehari.

>I think really that this (aarash) is one of (few) good works of Kasraai.
>One may disagree with some of point of views in the poem but can you
>please go to the details, take some examples and show why:

>1- The poem is NOT INTELLECTUAL.
>2- The poem is BULLSHIT.

>It is unfair and (hardly INTELLECTUAL) to use the word BULLSHIT as
>a criticism of a literal work. 

>Majid Zolfaghari
>etxmajz@solsta.ericsson.se

First, I should remind you that the SCI or usenet in general is not a
formal form for in depth discussion.  It as hysterical to utilize formal
language for discussion in an informal form as it is to engage in informal
discussion in a formal form.  Give you an example, if you go to swimming
pool with 3 piece suit you look as odd as if you go to requiem  with swim
suit.

Now, regarding formal repugnal of the poem. The "new style poetry" in Persian
language has never gained wide acceptance.  Even though, few of the our great 
literary people have accepted this style of poetry as an acceptable form of
poem; most scholars do not consider it more than regular writing. This type
of poem always has been a source of controversy.  Many Persian scholars
consider sadi's "naser mosaja" as more poetic than so called "new style
poems", which also is called "nazem -e- jadid" or "sher'e no".  

Moreover, in comparison with the works of "Molavi", "Khayam", "Ferdowsi",
"Farabi", "Irajmirza", "Hafaz", "Obad Zakani", "Atar", "Ali Akbar Dah Khoda",
"Araf Qsvini", .... the poem in question could not be valued more than mare
"trivial".  The similar concept has been visited by "Ferdowsi" in his master
work "Shahnameh", with much higher degree of elegance.  Ferdowsi has utilized
his enormous talent to mold the story of "Arash kman gear" gracefully to
Persian words. As if the words has been created just to tell that particular
story.  To compare Ferdowsi's work and Kassravi's work is like comparing
Newton's contributions to physics and your local elementary teacher's 
contribution to the science of Physics.  Even though, in eye of a school
child the local elementary teacher might be considered a great physicist;
the reality is that in most cases the contribution of a primary teacher
to advancement of new physical theories is insignificant.  With the same
taken the aforementioned poem is an insignificant and trivial in Persian
Language.  Expressing the same idea in an informal language, " it sucks". -:)

                  With highest regards,
                       Babak   Sehari.
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