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From: id881458@kari.canberra.edu.au (Brett Jonathon Chase)
Subject: Re: 10Base-T problem
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:31:07 GMT

In <BANYAN-L%92111312472692@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> Rick=L.=Perales%2nd=Fl%FPCM@FPCM.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU writes:

>I'm hoping someone out there might be able to help me. I'm not very familiar
>with 10Base-T equipment or specifications, although i have installed and
>managed Ethernet (thick and thin), and token ring networks. What i'm trying to
>do is set up a 10Base-T lan segment off one of our servers. Seemed easy
>enough. Bought a couple of Etherlink III, Racal NI6510 and an SMC 3608
>concentrator. When i installed the 6510 in the server (4.11(5)), the server
>recognized it correctly.  But after a few minutes i got a "NI6510 ethernet card
>going offline - check cable" message at the service monitor. And within a
>minute or two the "going online" message appeared. Initially i didn't think
>anything of it because i had not connected it to the concentrator yet. When
>i finally connected one workstation and had everything wired correctly, i was
>able to login to the server correctly. The problem is the server keeps giving
>the message "going offline", " going online" continuously; at intermittent
>intervals. Even though there is another workstation on the segment. Any ideas?

If anyone else experieces these problems with NI6510's ....Interlan have
replicated the problem and are currently working on a fix.

Brett Chase 
Datacraft Australia
fax +61 6 2391987
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:51:54 GMT
From:         ps@JET.UK
Subject:      Quality Replies

Before I start, Frank this is not a personal attack on you, your posting was
just the "straw that broke the camels back".  Also I am just as guilty of this
at times.

>From:           FFore <FFore@ctc.uucp>
>Subject:        Server going down
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >         Brynjulf,
>
>        I would try replacing your Novell NE3200 EISA boards with some 3Comm
>3C503 ISA boards or some other well-known/supported boards and see what
>happens.  There are some knowns problems with EISA NIC board (especially the
>Interlan NI3210's) drivers in VINES.  We wanted to take advantage of the 32-
>bit wide paths of EISA boards in some our servers and found out that
>performance actually decreased using them.  Hope this helps.
>
>-Frank Fore, Southwest Research Institute, S.A., TX
> Internet: fpf@swri.edu
>

This is a plea that if we are going to knock peices of equipment or varions
items then we do so in a scientific way.  I use the above as an example only;

>        I would try replacing your Novell NE3200 EISA boards with some 3Comm
>3C503 ISA boards or some other well-known/supported boards and see what
>happens.

No a bad suggestion

>  There are some knowns problems with EISA NIC board (especially the
>Interlan NI3210's) drivers in VINES.

Really, what are they?, who knows?, are Banyan aware?, do they ack the fact?,
how about attaching a Banyan SPR # to the fault!

>  We wanted to take advantage of the 32-
>bit wide paths of EISA boards in some our servers and found out that
>performance actually decreased using them.

What was your performance before and after, or was this just subjective ??
Did you change your comms buffer settings ??  (we find our Novell EISA NE3200
boards to be far superior. (subjective only!)).

In conclusion, if you have facts and figures state them, if they are
subjective say so.  Please do not let innueno and guesswork masquarade as
tests and fact.   Lets keep this a quality discussion group.

Regards
Paul Simmonds
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:53:08 CST
From:         Susan=Beebe%NET%CVM@VETMED.CVM.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      OS/2 2.0, NDIS and SMC Card

Currently, we have OS/2 ver. 2.0 on several workstations and they are running
the LAP (Limited availability program) version 1.0 ... it crashes on the
intitialization of the western digital/smc card.

Is there a newer version of the banyan files for OS/2 folks?  I patched the
servers to version 4.11(7) as seen for OS/2 users .... Has anyone else seen
this?  If I replace the western digital card with a 3com etherlink II card it
works just fine.

Any suggestions?  Any updates out there?

Susan Beebe
s-beebe@uiuc.edu
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From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      ABUI Conference?

When and where is the next conference?

Curious, Greg...


Greg.Burgess@banyan.msu.edu
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From: hans@noot.let.vu.nl (Hans Varkevisser)
Subject: Re: WP on VINES
Organization: VU Amsterdam - dienst CCA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:24:43 GMT

We have solved this problems by giving every student and all other persons
a login name of 3 numbers and 2 characters.
The numbers are unique.
We created a set directory for every printer on the network and a printer
directory for every printer.
We use a own program that is used to login, this program sets all environment
vars such as, login name, vidoecard, available local drives, bootdisk etc.
The inlognumbers are divided in groups, so we can tell which number is which
group. The two characters divide the loginnames in groups and organisations.
The program split the numbers and characters in loginname, group and
organisation these are then 4 environment vars, logn is number+characters
group is banyan group, organi is banyan organisation an user is number extracted
from loginname.
This program then start login from Banyan with the loginname suplied from the our
program. We don't use the login environment form banyan, but we give the
complete user@group@organisation to login from banyan.
Everybody on the network uses a menu, this menu uses batch files to start
Wordperfect, Dbase etc.
We call wp51.bat with parameters defaultdrive,room and printer
The defaultdrive is the drive where the text files are  A:
the room is the room where the printer is, 10A12
the printer is the kind of printer., HplaserjetIII, HP3
So call wp51 A: 10A12 HP3

The batch file in short look like this:
%1
GOTO %2%3
:10A12HP3
p:\wp51\wp/nt:2/d-u:\tmp\%ORGANI%/u:%USER%/ps:p:\wp51\SET10A12.HP3/m-%VIDEO%

/nt:2 is banyan network
/d-u:\tmp\%ORGANI% is the tmp dir
/u:%USER% the username for Wordperfect
/ps:p:\wp51\SET10A12.HP3 is the set directory
/m-%VIDEO% is the video macro to set the right videosettings
In all our SET.... dir is a set file WP{WP}.SET with the default settings
Because there is only one printer in the printer directory nobody can change
the printer from within wordperfect.
The printer dir for example is PTR10A12.HP3
I don't have much time to explain more, but I can reply in the future if there
are more questions.
The login program I have written is in C with not much comment and in dutch
I have written a library in C to get and set all enviroment vars and
get all kind of information from the workstation, such as Type of computer
8088/80286 etc, how many drives,what kind of drives.
I can give the source of this, but the problem is that it is not easy to
understand, I think. But you can try.
We use this program for 6 months with 600 persons, 10 different printers
and don't have many problems with printing or messing up SET files.


Hans Varkevisser
Systemadminstrator
Faculteit der Letteren
Vrije Universiteit
Amsterdam
hans@let.vu.nl

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From: USERSGTX@UMICHUM.BITNET (Duane Foster)
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Date: 17 Nov 92 19:40:38 GMT
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Can anyone recommend a good ESDI controller for an use in an Server, Everex
Step machine, preferable one with a cache.  Also, what is the current
recommendation for 2.2 or 5 GB backup unit?

Duane Foster@um.cc.umich.edu
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:39:34 PST
From:         SAW7%StaCs%EnconBenicia@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject: re:Re: Security risks.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------


>You can only use the Change Password feature of MUSER if you are
in the
>AdminList of the same group as the user who's password you are
trying to
>change.  Surely you don't have all your users on the AdminList for
their
>groups!? ....

=========================================================
============
Although this may be version specific, It is NOT nessesary to be on
any admin list
in 4.11(5) to change a password via MUSER.Although the user may not
use a recently
used password, he/she is allowed to change the password without
entering the
current password (only for that specicic ID)
This is easily verified by creating a test id with no rights.

Steve Wright
Pacific Gas & Electric
saw7@encon.pge.com
SAW7@StaCs@EnconBenicia

All disclaimers pending...
From: HoornwegB@FACB.FHK.EUR.NL
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Date: 17 Nov 92 14:02:59 GMT
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Hi Fred,

An easy workaround is the following: construct a standaard .set file.
Place it somewhere on the netwerk with read only rights for students.
Start WP with a batch file that copies the .set file to the local disk every
time you start WP. It's not hacker proof but certainly idiot proof.

Marcel Hoornweg
Erasmus University Rotterdam
Internet: Hoornweg@facb.fhk.eur.nl
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:27:41 CST
From:         Steve Cochran <cochran@KATANA.PCPD.HOU.COMPAQ.COM>
Subject:      Re: OS/2 2.0, NDIS and SMC Card
              "Susan=Beebe%NET%CVM%VETMED.CVM.UIUC.EDU%VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
              @twisto.eng.hou.compa q.com" at Nov 20, 92 03:53:08 pm

>
> Currently, we have OS/2 ver. 2.0 on several workstations and they are running
> the LAP (Limited availability program) version 1.0 ... it crashes on the
> intitialization of the western digital/smc card.
>
> Is there a newer version of the banyan files for OS/2 folks?  I patched the
> servers to version 4.11(7) as seen for OS/2 users .... Has anyone else seen
> this?  If I replace the western digital card with a 3com etherlink II card it
> works just fine.
>
> Any suggestions?  Any updates out there?
>
Try to get your hands on the LA patches for the server.  You will need to
get up to LA(3) if you want the SMC cards to work.  I beleive that you must
install LA(3) on top of LA(2).  I am not sure if LA(2) requires LA(1).....

> Susan Beebe
> s-beebe@uiuc.edu
>


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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:10:59 +0100
From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      re: Security risks.

Well, enough said about MUSER. It's as save as it should be. For Unix why
don't you switch to C2 security. Unlike VMS on a UNIX system everything is
open until you close it. That's how UNIX is build. In the early days of UNIX
nobody cared about the security. It was used primarily in Universities and the
more open it was the better. We didn't have hackers them (I suppose) and
didn't have that fital information on our computers.
The password cracker you mention already exist in PD form. Crack an Cops are
the best know program's. Indeed hackers try to steal the password file and use
the fastest computers to decrypt the passwords (you need a very fast one but I
know hackers even (illegaly ofcourse) use CRAY's for that purpose). One of the
main features of C2 security is that the password file in /etc does not
contain the passwords anymore. They are in the /.secure/etc directory which is
only accessible by root. The password program has the setuid bit set so when
it's run a user becomes root and only has they ability to change the password.
Off course the password program itself has to be secure!
C2 security seems to be adequate enough to pass the DOD specifications. As a
matter of fact I think even Banyan is trying to go to C2 specs.

Bye

Hendrik

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:35:34 CST
From:         David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: New 3c509 packet driver

I have tried the new 3c509d packet driver with no luck.  It keeps giving me a
"no 3c509 found" error message.  I used 3Com's diagnostic and it checks out.
I put a 3c507 in the machine to check cables and it worked fine.  The computer
is a ALR 386/33.  I put the BUS in slow mode and the CPU in slow speed, still
no luck.  The computer has 5Mb RAM, DOS V5.0, QEMM V6.02.  I am running Banyan
Vines V5.00(5)  with the Cabletron drivers.  If I use the "-d" command line
switch it says it initializes the board, then "Ban" loads fine, but "Csiban"
first says "Enabling Cabletron Packet Driver Interface", then says "packet
driver already in use" and "Csiban" does not stay resident in memory.  So I can
not complete the login process.

Any help would be much apprecitated.  I bought 10 of these cards and do not
want to use NDIS, but I will if I have to.

David L. Blair  davidb@uiuc.edu  U of I  Computer Resource Coordinator
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:13:01 MET
From:         Brynjulf.Mauring@MTI.UNIT.NO
Subject:      re: Server going down (no subject)

Sorry about forgetting to type the subject in my previous mailing ...

Anyway, thanks for the response, Paul and Frank !
I have increased my communication limits now for the server having the NE3200
network card. If that doesn't work I'll replace my NE3200-card. In a while I
will surely see if this works out. I hope I can give the winner a reward !

My VINES-dealer will get a bomb ...

- Brynjulf
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From: frush@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Ray Frush)
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Subject: EISA vs. ISA
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:53:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


I've been getting mixed messages about whether Banyan drivers for EISA
devices actually take advantage of the EISA 32-bit Bus Mastering modes,
or do the drivers just run these cards in an ISA emulation mode.  So, 
what I'd like to find out is which EISA cards (SCSI and Ethernet) are
supported, which ones actually take advantage of the full EISA tranfer
mode, and which ones only support ISA transfers.  A comparison between
4.11 drivers and 5.0 drivers would help, as I do know that 4.11 has
"better" driver support than 5.0 (Who else is looking forward to 5.5?)

Follow up to this newsgroup as I know I'm not the only one who would
benifit from such info...   It basically boils down to whether I should
invest in an EISA bus server or just stick with ISA.  No use buying
a bus which doesn't get utillized.
From: R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
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Subject: Exabyte drive
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:48:07 GMT
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I got hold of a second-hand Exabyte EXB-8200 8mm dape drive that I plan on
installing in a CNS.  If anyone has experience with these drives I'd
appreciate some insight on how I should configure it.  Thanks.


SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

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From: Sandra.M.West@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
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Subject: re: Novell
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:13:48 GMT
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Would you please send a copy of the research study to
    Sandra West
    Univ of Michigan
    Dept of Public Safety
    525 Church St.
    Ann Arbor, Mi 48109.

Thanks!     Sandra
From: Steve=Skilbeck%Economics%UNIMELB@MUWAYE.UNIMELB.EDU.AU
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Subject: re: Novell/CSUS
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:49:00 GMT
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Hi Mary,

> I have tried to telnet in to CSUS to pick up some of the postings... maybe I
> am missing something ...

The problem is that you are trying to TELNET, when you should be using FTP,
FTP is used for transferring files from remote systems. So if you:

1) ftp csus.edu
2) login anonymous
3) password: Your login@site@domain

This should have you ready to go.


Stephen Skilbeck
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:03:16 CET
From:         Fred=Truyen%DIV%LW@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      WP on VINES

Hello Folks,

I ran into a silly WP-problem on our VINES network.  In a PC-classroom
our students who do not happen to know anything about WP tend to use it
to write their papers.  So I made a common environment variable WP and
set it to /u-pck.  The corresponding wppck}.set file is configured by
me for correct printer selection and paper layout.  To prevent the students
of overriding these settings, I tried to set it read-only. And there's the
bug: once a .set file is read-only, wp changes to standard settings,
that is f.e. american size paper in stead of the DIN A4 we use.
Paradox: if the file isn't read-only, it gets messed up by the students;
         if the file is read-only, it has the wrong settings (and my print-
         service gets stuck (asking to feed legal all the time)).
some suggestions (or deep feelings of compassion?)

Fred Truyen
Faculty of Arts KULeuven - Belgium
Ftruyen@cc3.kuleuven.ac.be
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:33:29 EST
From:         keith=lally%techsup%sep@SEP2.SEP.BNL.GOV
Subject:      4.11 on a PS2/95

I am trying to install 4.11(0) on a brand new ps2/95 with two SCSI disks.
After booting from the install/utility disk and selecting the option to
prepare all disk space for vines I see the following warnings:

WARNING:  HD warning:  reading drive 0

WARNING:  sector 0x00000001

WARNING:  General error

WARNING:  Succeeded after 1 retries

Then the surface analysis continues and the load proceeds.  Both disks are
brand new.  One is a 400mb and the other is a 320 mb (both IBM).  I have
switched the disks and tried both and get the same thing.  I formatted both
disks using the format utility to make sure they were "clean".  I formatted
both the disks using the DOS format utility prior to a vines load to get rid
of the problem but to no avail.  I chose the repair disk 1 option from the
install disk and let it rework the disk prior to preparing all disk space for
vines but still the error message persists.  This is a supported platform so
I'm hoping someone else has seen this problem and might give me a clue.  I've
also built up the system as a dos box and ran it through all the ibm diags and
found nothing wrong.  The scsi controller has 512K cache if that makes any
difference.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Keith Lally.
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