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From: t9114145@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
Subject: Re: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:50:21 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Jul27.010034.19725@bnd2.bnd.oz.au>, johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au (John Warburton) writes:
> Hello Net,
> 	I am just about to purchase 2 modems to hang from a powerbook 100
> 	and my Unix host at work. I will mainly be doing some sort of comms
> 	program, and with telnet 2.5 out, I think SLIP will be the deal for me.
> 
> 	My question:
> 		Mac dealers around town wouldn't touch Maestro V32 with a barge
> 	pole, and recommend the Netcomm equivalent, but at twic the price. Am I
> 	getting anything better in reliability etc for the extra $500??

I find myself agreeing with a Mac dealer! unbelievable!
 
I have owned a modem from each -
 
The Maestro XR. An utter dog of a modem. Looks like rubbish. Works like
rubbish. Comes with free built-in line noise generator. Extra-slow command
processing. (i.e. type "AT" then wait... wait... Ah! "OK".) The supplied
two-wire phone cord is supposed to be two insulated wires, right? Well between
the two conductors on the cord I got there was about 600k resistance. I
replaced it, but it didn't improve the modem any. (Yes, that measurement
was with the cord removed from the modem.)
 
The Netcomm M5 Smartmodem. Superb. No line noise ever. Support from Netcomm,
dial them up and they'll help. Looks good. Well built. Reliable. 
Several friend also own Netcomms, like the 24/24 or the 1234SA. None of them 
have ever had problems with their modems either.

My recommendation - don't even touch the Maestro with someone else's bargepole.
That $500 buys you peace of mind, reliability, support, greater throughput,
etc etc...

> 
> Thanks
> John
> -- 
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Adam Eberbach    Computer Science student, RMIT.   t9114145@phillip.edu.au
               "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"
From: cchd@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au (Huw Davies)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Mac X and 3 button mice in OZ
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:00:58 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1992Jul28.021510.12019@newshost.anu.edu.au> jaa101@gorton.anu.edu.au (James Ashton) writes:
>We're looking at running Mac X and naturally are searching for sources
>of three button mice to use with it.  The only device I can find
>available locally is the Logitech Mouseman.  I have heard there are
>some problems getting Mac X to work with this device.  Does anyone have
>experience with this or other three button mice available locally?

I've been using a Gravis SuperMouse on my A/UX system for the last
couple of years under X11R5. It works fine and I've had no problems with
the mouse or the associated hardware/software.

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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Followup-To: aus.mac,aus.comms
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:47:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.010034.19725@bnd2.bnd.oz.au>, johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au
(John Warburton) wrote:
> 		Mac dealers around town wouldn't touch Maestro V32 with a barge
> 	pole, and recommend the Netcomm equivalent, but at twic the price. Am I
> 	getting anything better in reliability etc for the extra $500??

I can recommend the Avtek V.32 modem, which apart from being a V.32 modem
at a nice price, also works well with AppleTalk Remote Access.

_________________________________________________________________________
Andrew D. Nielsen                    Internet : anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
Macintosh Support Specialist         AppleLink: AUST0190
Winthrop Technology                  
The University of Western Australia                    Tel: +61-9-3801757
NEDLANDS WA 6009   AUSTRALIA                           FAX: +61-9-3821688
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From: t9114145@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
Subject: Re: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:55:33 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <ADT.92Jul29142110@saussure.technix.oz.au>, adt@technix.oz.au (Andrew Tune) writes:
> In article <1992Jul27.130812.11085@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> Luke Mewburn writes:
>> 2. there is higher profit margin in Netcomm.
> 
> This is the basic problem in asking people who sell things for
> advice about buying the type of things they sell.  Always astounds me
> that people go to "consulting" companies who are in the pockets of
> hardware vendors, for advice regarding buying hardware.  Ho hum.
> 

Good thing we have the net for stuff like this. 

> Back to modems... Think about the Interlink modems.  _All_ modems have
> problems (provided they have some firmware in there ;-) but we've
> consistently found with Interlink that they acknowledge the problems
> and _fix_ them.  And there haven't been very many.  Good modems, good
> price.
> 

The Interlink 12345DES I used was great, but it's not a lot cheaper than
the M5 (you can probably get M5's cheaper now) or the M7(F). The Fastbit
is pretty popular but I have been told that you can't lock the port speed
(i.e. you can't set com port speed to 38.4k and use CTS/RTS for greater
throughput). 
If this is true (and correct me if it isn't, please) then throughput
is nowhere near as good when you get up to higher speeds like v32,
and much much slower if you are using compression techniques like 
MNP5 (assuming your data is compressible).

> Disclaimer: We don't sell modems or any other hardware for that
> matter.  We've been using Interlinks of various types for years now
> without serious problems, and with excellent backup and support.
> -- 
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               "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"
From: ianf@chook.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Ian Florance)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Mac X and 3 button mice in OZ
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:28:00 GMT
Reply-To: ianf@cs.adelaide.edu.au

From article <1992Jul28.021510.12019@newshost.anu.edu.au>, by jaa101@gorton.anu.edu.au (James Ashton):
> We're looking at running Mac X and naturally are searching for sources
> of three button mice to use with it.  The only device I can find
> available locally is the Logitech Mouseman.  I have heard there are
> some problems getting Mac X to work with this device.  Does anyone have
> experience with this or other three button mice available locally?

Our lecturers are using successfully the Gravis Supermouse {3 button}
running under Mac X.

The Gravis Supermouse is avalaible from
HYPEC Electronics
34 Herbett Street
West Ryde
NSW             2144

Phone : 02-808-3666


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From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Newsgroups: aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc,bhp.mac
Subject: Re: merging Users & Groups data files from 2 macs. How ???
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:42:45 GMT
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia

In article <ianh.712544148@morgana> ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle) writes:
>I have 2 machines, each using sys 7 file sharing and I want to consolidate
>the users onto one machine. To do this I need to merge the Users & Groups
>data files from both machines, but I just can't seem to be able to
>figure out how to do it.

Neither could I.  I tried all sorts of things.
[ .. ]

>Any thoughts??? There are about 40 users on both machines so it would be
>a pain to have to re-enter the userid/password info,

I guess this is why Apple advertises it for personal file sharing only
and not for large-scale sharing.  We decided not to bother with any sort
of standard users/groups on Macs -- we use Ethershare on a Sun.  I guess
CAP or Pacershare or something similar would do just as well. Ethershare
just uses UNIX groups, which you can see in your Sharing.. dialogue.

-Matt
matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:20:47 GMT
From: ak@socs.uts.edu.au (Andrew Kirkbride)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Word 5 Hassles

wepaim@itwol.bhp.com.au writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.062851.14811@griffin.itc.gu.edu.au>
>cullhane@medusa.itc.gu.edu.au (Cullhane Gibbs) writes:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>	I'm having a few hassles with a Word 5 problem and would be grateful
>>	for any suggestions. This is the problem.
>>
>>	File 'X' resides on a Mac Classic file server. It is a Word 5
>>	document.
>>
>>	Ms X. edits this file in Word 5 on a SE connected to the server.
>>	Everything is fine.
>>
>>	She then edits the same file (after closing it , etc) on a Mac Plus.
>>	Unfortunately, here the format of the document is out (i.e.
>>	line run on to pages they shouldn't and so forth).
>>
>>	Does anybody have any ideas as to what may be wrong? The
>>	margins are the same, page size the same and I've run
>>	out of ideas (the font is also the same as well).
>>
>>		Thanx,		Cully

>Just a couple of long shots here. Are both systems using TrueType fonts or is
>one using TrueType and the other bit mapped? I believe (but I don't know) that
>there are differences between a bit mapped version of a font and its TrueType
>version. Also check fractional widths as well. Outside of that,  good luck :-)


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Word 5.0a fixes a bug where moving a Word doc. to a different machine
would change the default font, counld be what's happening here, maybe...


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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: atkins@education.canberra.edu.au ()
Subject: RSG4.5
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:10:58 GMT

We are having intermittant trouble printing with system 7 and RSG 4.5a on
 a Laserwriter II. Sometimes it says it prints and it doesn't, sometimes it
 gives the message "document Ok  Postcript error".
Any suggestions
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
From: johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au (John Warburton)
Subject: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Organization: B&D Doors, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:00:34 GMT

Hello Net,
	I am just about to purchase 2 modems to hang from a powerbook 100
	and my Unix host at work. I will mainly be doing some sort of comms
	program, and with telnet 2.5 out, I think SLIP will be the deal for me.

	My question:
		Mac dealers around town wouldn't touch Maestro V32 with a barge
	pole, and recommend the Netcomm equivalent, but at twic the price. Am I
	getting anything better in reliability etc for the extra $500??

Thanks
John
-- 
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Systems Administrator			Phone:       +61 2 771 5566
B & D Australia				Fax:	     +61 2 771 6385
		  Living on ice-cream and chocolate kisses...
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
From: robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au (Rob Trevor)
Subject: Re: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Followup-To: aus.mac,aus.comms
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:28:07 GMT

In article <anielsen-270792134851@mac115.wt.uwa.edu.au>,
anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Jul27.010034.19725@bnd2.bnd.oz.au>, johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au
> (John Warburton) wrote:
> > 		Mac dealers around town wouldn't touch Maestro V32 with a barge
> > 	pole, and recommend the Netcomm equivalent, but at twic the price. Am I
> > 	getting anything better in reliability etc for the extra $500??
> 
> I can recommend the Avtek V.32 modem, which apart from being a V.32 modem
> at a nice price, also works well with AppleTalk Remote Access.
> 
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew D. Nielsen                    Internet : anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
> Macintosh Support Specialist         AppleLink: AUST0190

Now, I wonder which large Australian modem manufacturer makes Avteck :)

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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: cullhane@medusa.itc.gu.edu.au (Cullhane Gibbs)
Subject:  Word 5 Hassles
Reply-To: cullhane@medusa.UUCP (Cullhane Gibbs)
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 06:28:51 GMT

Greetings,

	I'm having a few hassles with a Word 5 problem and would be grateful
	for any suggestions. This is the problem.

	File 'X' resides on a Mac Classic file server. It is a Word 5
	document.

	Ms X. edits this file in Word 5 on a SE connected to the server.
	Everything is fine.

	She then edits the same file (after closing it , etc) on a Mac Plus.
	Unfortunately, here the format of the document is out (i.e.
	line run on to pages they shouldn't and so forth).

	Does anybody have any ideas as to what may be wrong? The
	margins are the same, page size the same and I've run
	out of ideas (the font is also the same as well).

		Thanx,		Cully


Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: cullhane@medusa.itc.gu.edu.au (Cullhane Gibbs)
Subject: TrueType Conventry
Reply-To: cullhane@medusa.UUCP (Cullhane Gibbs)
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:07:09 GMT

Greetings,

	Does anyone know where I could get hold of a True Type
	Coventry Script font?

		Thanx,	Cully
From: rdebrece@alsvid.une.edu.au (Roger Debreceny)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Word 5 Hassles
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:35:35 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

[stuff deleted]

A mailing list on Mac Word is run by UNE-Northern Rivers .. postings
daily to 600+ Word users internationally ... to subscribe follow
normal LISTSERV procedures to:
	listserv@alsvid.une.edu.au
with the following in the body of the e-mail
	subscribe word-mac yourfirstname yoursurname
Word-Mac is a moderated list

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From: robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au (Rob Trevor)
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
Subject: Re: Maestro .vs. Netcomm
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:47:37 GMT
Followup-To: aus.mac,aus.comms
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management

In article <anielsen-290792092206@mac125.wt.uwa.edu.au>,
anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen) wrote:
> 
> In article <robt-280792102702@robt.agsm.unsw.edu.au>, robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au
> (Rob Trevor) wrote:
> > Now, I wonder which large Australian modem manufacturer makes Avteck :)
> 
> Not _strictly_ true, as Avtek is a small company that was bought out by
> NetComm.  In fact, the two compete quite fiercely, and I sometimes think
> I can detect a certain amount of animosity between them, although that's
> just my own personal feeling.

I guess they've managed to keep you well in the dark.  Same engineers, same
production facilities, same tech support, etc.  The problem with the net is
that you don't really know on what authority people are basing they're
info.  Believe someone who has been into NetComm's buildings (often after
hours) on a number of occaisions with a engineer - these ARE effectively
made by the same company.  They are simply practicing price discrimination.
 Obviously many people believe they are different products, so obviously
the policy pays off.

Bye

Rob

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            University of New South Wales
            PO Box 1, Kensington, NSW, AUSTRALIA    2033

Internet:  robt@mummy.agsm.unsw.oz.au  or  robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au
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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: tnorthtj@cc.curtin.edu.au (Tim North)
Subject: MacVision video digitiser. Comments?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:31:50 GMT

Does anyone have information regarding the "MacVision" greyscale video-
digitiser for the Macintosh? MacDirect just quoted me $580 + tax. Any comments
regarding reliability or performance?

Thanks. 
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From: peter@suite.sw.oz.au (Peter Bestel)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Mainframe to Mac transfers (Help!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:38:40 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

In <1992Jul16.150531.19180@latcs1.lat.oz.au> wright@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright) writes:

>I'm using a Mac SE30 at home and have noticed a couple of nice things for 
>Mac's on our uni's public FTP site. I've copied these desirables to my account
>on our mainframe (running UNIX). How is it possible to get them from my account
>at uni to my home (using my modem and either Microphone or Microsoft Works).

>Please tell me it's possible! Help to either email or to this newsgroup 
>much appreciated.
>	Michael.

	How can anyone on the net help you when we know nothing about the
machine set-up at your university! How can people learn to use News
without understanding a damn thing about how systems work? (Ah, me in
my terrible naivety)

	If you have a modem at home, then obviously you are going to want
some kind of modem to talk to at the university end. May I suggest
talking to your local systems administrator. You really do have to
make use of local resources before starting to post ad nauseum to the net.

	The other thing you may investigate is if there are any Macintoshs
connected to your network that are available.  This, assuming you have
a 2400baud modem, will save you an enormous amount of time if you can
ftp the stuff onto a floppy.

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Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
From: matthew@cs.su.oz (Matthew Geier)
Subject: Netcomm vs Avtek
Reply-To: matthew@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Matthew Geier)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:20:54 GMT

In article <anielsen-290792092206@mac125.wt.uwa.edu.au> anielsen@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Nielsen) writes:
>In article <robt-280792102702@robt.agsm.unsw.edu.au>, robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au
>(Rob Trevor) wrote:
>> Now, I wonder which large Australian modem manufacturer makes Avteck :)
>
> In fact, the two compete quite fiercely, and I sometimes think
>I can detect a certain amount of animosity between them, although that's
>just my own personal feeling.

 Both companies operate out of the same premises these days , even though 
they attempt to make it look like they dont. A friend recently ran Avtek/
netcomm a few times inquiring about V32 modems.
 He once ran Netcomm and asked for Avtek sales and got a response to the
effect 'we arnt Avtek , call this number , we have nothing to do with
Avtek'. He calls the number , the SAME girl answers the phone 'netcomm'
and when he asks for Avtek sales , gets 'ohh, ill put you through'.

 It seems Netcomm would have us believe that they are seperate from
Avtek , when really netcomm have absorbed Avtek totally.

 Guess who elses V32 modems implement V42bis , but not V42 LAPM ?
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Stylewriter Cartridge Refills?????
From: wepaim@aistvx.itwol.bhp.com.au
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:02:54 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: BHP Information Technology

In article <993500094@peg> mcollinson@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>
>I am aware that one is able to refill HP Deskwriter cartridges very cheaply,
>(I've done it myself a few times....if anyone would like instructions, then
>they can email me).
>
>My question is: Is it possible to refill Apple Stylewriter Cartridges in a
>similar manner?
>
>Any responses would be appreciated
>
>Regards 
>
>Mark ;)
>

Yep, it is possible to refill Stylewriter cartridges.... but I haven't done so
yet as I am still on my first cartridge!

There are instructions on archie.au (139.130.4.6) in micros/mac/info-mac/report
which detail how one can refill a cartridge. My local Apple computer store also
sells commercial refil kits.


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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: noriaki@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Noriaki onodera)
Subject: ** KanjiTalk 6.0.7 in Australia.  Where ? **
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:00:13 GMT

Hi.

I am looking for KanjiTalk 6.0.7.  I have KanjiTalk 6.0.2 but could not
install on my IIci.  Here in Australia, there are many Japanese language
courses in universities and colleges, so I believe that it is possible to
get KanjiTalk 6.0.7.

If anyone knows where to get, would you please let me know ?

Thanks in advance.

Noriaki (noriaki@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au)

Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: jaa101@gorton.anu.edu.au (James Ashton)
Subject: Mac X and 3 button mice in OZ
Organization: The Australian National University, Canberra
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 02:15:10 GMT

We're looking at running Mac X and naturally are searching for sources
of three button mice to use with it.  The only device I can find
available locally is the Logitech Mouseman.  I have heard there are
some problems getting Mac X to work with this device.  Does anyone have
experience with this or other three button mice available locally?

-- 
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