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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Hyper text markers
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:59:58 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan26.112523@axion.bt.co.uk> mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike  
Frampton) writes:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Im having a problem with Hypertext markers when using FrameMaker Version 
> 3.0X. 
> 
> Ill explain the situation, Im trying to edit a hypertext framemaker document that  
has a number of graphic "buttons". I want to place a marker on the button so that  
when it is pressed control moves somewhere else.
> 
> Ive unlocked the document,
> 
> called the tools menu and tried putting both a frame and a text column over the  
graphic. Then I try to place a new hypertext marker in the text area. 
> 
> My problem is one that each of these methods obscure the graphic and that maker  
menu will not let me add a new marker to that area.

I don't know what you mean by "when it is pressed control moves somewhere else",  
but to place a working hypertext marker over any graphic is simple.

Just draw a new textrect (AKA text column) on top of the area you want to be "hot"  
(a graphic in your case). Do not use the textline tool. Then use the Marker dialog  
box to insert a hypertext marker in the textrect. I assume your graphic is in an  
anchored frame already so that it floats with edits to your main text column - your  
new textrect will naturally paste into the anchored frame as well. You need not add  
any new frame. Be sure your new textrect has fill and pen colors set to "none". Be  
sure you see a text cursor flashing in your new textrect when you use the Marker  
dialog box.

e-mail me if you have any other questions - I've made massive use of hyperlinks.
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From: davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Auto Numbering Bug in Frame 3.1 on UNIX?
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:37:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.C1GzHz.20C
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

>I have found that the auto numbering of chapters is not always reliable.
>What happens is that when a book is generated, some or all of the files 
>(chapters) increase like they are supposed to and some do not.  So I might 
>have the following result:
>
>	Chapter 1
>	Chapter 2
>	Chapter 2
>	Chapter 3

We have this problem a lot, and the cause is almost always that
Autonumber is turned off in the file BEFORE the duplicate-numbered
chapter (in this case, the problem would be in the FIRST "chapter 2").
To fix: open the file, place the cursor in the text flow containing the
chapter number, choose "Flow" from the "Format" menu, and turn
Autonumber on.  Then regenerate the book.

(The real question is: how does Autonumber get turned off?  It seems to
happen by itself.  I have found by experimentation that doing a "Use
Formats From: Current" with "Page Layouts" checked will sometimes turn
Autonumber off.  Perhaps there are other circumstances that will cause
this.  It looks like a bug, but I haven't nailed it down yet.)

- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
  "There are some .sigs Man was not meant to read.  And this is one of them."
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: weltyc@porsche.cs.rpi.edu (Chris Welty)
Subject: how to find unknown fonts?
Organization: RPI Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:07:16 GMT


I am using frame 3.0.1 on a mac and a sun, and I just moved a document from
the mac to the sun and in opening it on the sun got the error that the
document contains unavailable fonts.  Does anyone know of any way to
find out what font(s) this message refers to?  According to the
manuals if you do open this document it converts the unknown fonts to
ones that are available, but I'd rather install the unknown one if I
knew what it was...

--

Christopher Welty                   Asst. Director, RPI CS Labs, Troy, NY 12180
weltyc@cs.rpi.edu                  "Porsche:  Fahren in seiner schoensten Form"
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: gary@netcom.com (Gary Messenbrink)
Subject: How to change default font in Document
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:21:47 GMT

In a previous post I asked how do you change the default font
for all the paragraph tags in a document.

Frame tech support said use "Shift F8" and then set the font
you want in the format paragraph window.  Make sure you set
all the variables to "as is" so the point sizes don't get
changed, plus other things.  This worked on an RS/6000
using 3.1x.

Several people responded that one of the configuration files
could be edited to change the default font.  Frame said
this should work, but I did not try it as that other users
in our group might become upset when different font appears
when they start a new document.

	Thanks for all your help
	Gary
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From: markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Can't Rotate Text Line
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:52:06 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de


In article <115410016@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, cdoyle@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Candace Doyle) writes:
|> The Problem:
|> 
|>     I have been unsuccessful in attempting  rotate a text line (...)
|>
|>     The 'rotate' on the tools window works as it should, but the
|>     rotation is too much. I've tried the Ctrl-rgi to rotate it with
|>     the mouse but it has no effect on the text line but works for
|>     other objects. (...)
|> 
|>     Any ideas?

Yes: Cry! There is no way to rotate text in arbitrary angle. Only 0, 90, 180
and 360 grad are possible. :-(((


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From: khr@hp700.trg.saic.com (Karl Rudnick)
Reply-To: khr@hp700.trg.saic.com
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.
Subject: Getting PostScript Graphics into Frame 
Keywords: PostScript, EPSI, graphics
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:43:11 GMT

We are currently trying to adopt Frame as a documentation standard. We have
engineer types using Frame on  workstations, secretaries using Frame on
MACs. Graphics are generated on workstations using packages such as Template
or Matlab where either .ps or .eps files are generated. Our current strategy
is to convert .ps to .epsi using Doub Crabill's (Purdue) pstoepsi program.
This works fine on an HP730 (pstoepsi and Frame running on HP). However
when importing the SAME .epsi file into Frame on a Mac, the printed output
has some clipping around the border. We also sometimes have trouble
running pstoepsi on a DECstation 3100 where other PostScript graphics are
generated (it bombs or generates scary error messages).

Surely someone else must have people generate technical plots in PostScript
on UNIX workstations with a desire to produce documents both on the work-
stations (for initial creation by engineers) and MACs (for final touch-up
by secretaries).

I would be very grateful for any suggestions, including other solutions than
using pstoepsi.  THANKS in advance.

Karl Rudnick - SAIC: San Diego
From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Endnotes in FrameMaker 3.0 for NeXT?
Keywords: FrameMaker Endnotes NeXT
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:58:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan25.180819.4112@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> garmstro@galbraith.re.ualberta.ca (Glen Armstrong) writes:
>I'm trying to create a document with endnotes using FrameMaker 3.0 on a  
>NeXT.  I cannot figure out how to do it.  Is it possible to get FM3.0 to  
>automatically enumerate endnotes in the same way that it handles  
>footnotes?  If so, how do I get the program to do this for me
>
>--glen

I don't think so.  The most straightforward workaround I can think
of off the top of my head is to use cross-references by:

     +	Creating an autonumbered paragraph type called "Endnote," with
	a number format of "[<n+>]"

     +	Putting each reference in a paragraph of this type.

     +	Creating a character style called "Endnote" which would reduce
      	the point size and enable the superscript attribute

     +	Creating a cross-reference format called "Endnote"  with a
     	format of <Endnote>[<$paranum>]<Default P Font>
     
     +	Adding a cross-reference to the Endnote paragraph that lists 
      	the reference.

-r
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: asta@thermal4.den.mmc.com (Brent Cullimore)
Subject: Help: autonumber cross-referencing
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:50:53 GMT

Although I'm a relatively new Frame User, I have done a
lot of large documents with it.  In one document, though,
I can't get cross-references to a paragraph number to
work.  Everything works OK: the cross-reference is inserted
correctly, but when I update it or double click it, FM
has seemingly forgot what I just told it.  The reference
points to the wrong place.  What am I doing wrong that
I haven't been screwing up before?

(ps: I'm on a SUN using 3.1a)

Also: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to build
a renumbering list of references in Frame?  (Like foot-
notes that stack up at the end of the document, and
reorder themselves when you mess with the document.)
Being a former Interleaf user, this was no problem.  But Frame's
tight link between autonumbers and paragraphs is giving
me troubles.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: artc@world.std.com (Art Campbell)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker HyperText
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:38:37 GMT

hughg@bnr.co.uk (H.J.Griffiths) writes:

>Is there any way to  get Hypertext markers inserted using autonumber
>or some such facility?

>(It seems to me that it ought to be possible to do this, in fact I
>think frame should able to automatically put HyperText markers in for
>things that appear in the TOC, and, or IX.)

That's supposed to be a built-in feature of 4.0, which as far as I
know is still supposed to ship around mid-year.

>I realise that I could write a shell script to convert the book's files
>to MIF, insert markers and then convert them back again. However,
>I do not want to convert the files to MIF format as in my experience 
>this process is not guaranteed reversible, and I want a general facility
>that can be run for any document as part of its approval and storage process.

A third-party vendor, Frank Sterns Associates at (US) 206/892-3970 or 
71047.1274@compuserve.com sells a program called HyperGen which does this 
as well as several other chores. I've got product literatrue but hven't seen
the software or the results. 

Art
>         hughg
>__________________________________________________________________________
>Hugh Griffiths          hughg@bnr.co.uk       Voice: +44 - (0)279 403287
>BNR, London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA       Fax: +44 - (0)279 451434
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     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
From: amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Big Bad Bug
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:10:49 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: blueheron.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan25.232105.3416@pony.Ingres.COM> sstark@Ingres.COM  
(Scott Stark) writes:
> Hey, I've discovered a character format bug.  Has anyone else seen  
this?
> This is Frame 3.0 on the Macintosh.
> 
> It seems if you apply a character format to any entire paragraph or
> table cell, and then "Use Formats From", the character formats get  
wiped
> out.  (The character format is still there; it's just invisible.)
> The only way to get them back is to reapply the formats but 
> uncheck the Paragraph Formats box before doing so.

If I understood your description correctly, this is a long-time bug and  
isn't new to Frame 3.0. There's a fairly easy workaround, although it's  
a nuissance to always remember to do it. Just add a blank space to the  
end of the paragraph, and mark everything _except_ that blank space  
when changing the character format. As long as there are two distinct  
character formats used in the paragraph, they won't disappear when you  
apply formats to it.
______________________________________________________________
amy_mcnulty@vos.stratus.com  or  amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Amy McNulty -- Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA
Stratus pays me to write, but not to write this!
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: decouty@irisa.fr (Bertrand DECOUTY, Atelier)
Subject: Re: Importing editable graphic objects - CGM or
Reply-To: decouty@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA-INRIA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:09:31 GMT

In article M16302@mwvm.mitre.org, M16302@mwvm.mitre.org () writes:
>I want to import some drawings from McDraw (Mcintosh) into FrameMaker on SUN..
>I need to be able to edit the individual objects of the imported drawing.
>Does anyone know if this is possible.  If so, how can it be done.
>I tried to do a screen copy from McDraw on the Mac to FrameMaker on the Mac and
>the resulting drawing could not be ungrouped and edited.  Not a good sign?

screen copy is bitmap, not object.

Try using FilterPak 3.0, which includes a PICT-to-MIF filter. PICT objetcs are translated into MIF objects and, so, editable.

FilterPak 2.0 (or 2.1) included a MacDraw-to-MIF filter, which has several bugs.

>Thanks in advance.
>Robert B. Shain                              EMAIL: RSHAIN @MITRE.ORG
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: nvecchi@cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: System variables and foreign languages
Followup-To: nvecchi@cscs.ch
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:33:50 GMT

I have several documents in various languages. I like to use
the long form of the date as a system variable but I can't
figure out how to get the date imported in the right language!
All I seem to get is English.

Ideas? I'm sure it's something obvious that I'm overlooking.

Nicole

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:14:53 MST
From: kelly@baloo.ee.byu.edu (J. Kelly Flanagan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: need pbm.h file



	I am trying to compile the publicly available 

		pstoepsi 

	program which uses pbmtoepsi for which the source was
	provided.  pbmtoepsi.c includes pbm.h


		Where do I get pbm.h??????????


Kelly
kelly@ee.byu.edu
From: markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: System variables and foreign languages
Date: 28 Jan 1993 12:50:29 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Keywords: System variables

In article <1993Jan27.143350.23288@cscs.ch>, nvecchi@cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi) writes:
|> I have several documents in various languages. I like to use
|> the long form of the date as a system variable but I can't
|> figure out how to get the date imported in the right language!
|> All I seem to get is English.
|> 
|> Ideas? I'm sure it's something obvious that I'm overlooking.
|> 
|> Nicole

Yes, this is another "bug" of FrameMaker: The textual presentation of days and
months names depends from the User Interface Language (UIL), only. It should
indeed depend from the Document language or even better be user selectable...

So, if I want to use the german "Montag" instead of the english "monday", I
must use the german UIL. Needless to say that this is stupid. I use FrameMaker
to write text in german and english, but I don't want to use two different
user interfaces...

I don't know if there is any workaround...


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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: moiram@sacajawea.csc.ti.com (Moira Mallison)
Subject: default source document in cross reference window
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Reply-To: moiram@csc.ti.com
Organization: Computer Science Lab, Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:35:06 GMT

I have a book document, one chapter of which describes evaluation criteria
for analysis described throughout the book.  Most of my cross-references are
to this chapter.  Is there a way that I can set up the cross-reference
window, so that a specific chapter is the default source document
instead of the current document?

Moira Mallison	
Computer Science Laboratory	
Texas Instruments
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: HELP: How to generate BIG&little capital letters
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:50:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <7OGZrAkDBh107h@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US> ka6etb@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US  
(KA6ETB Steve Harding) writes:
> In <ubi.727983427@updike> ubi@updike..sri.com (Ron Ueberschaer) writes:
> >I'd like to define a character style that uses large capital
> >letters in place of uppercase, and smaller capital letters
> >in place of lowercase.  The font and capitalization options
> >don't seem to be able to do this.  Is there any way to add
> >that capability to FrameMaker?
> 
> Unless someone knows some magic of which I am unaware, I am afraid you
> are out of luck.
> 
> What you are describing is actually a typeface.  The larger characters are
> the uppercase; the smaller characters are the lower case.  I haven't seen
> any like since hot lead (I'm dating myself).
> 
> But then, Rob Weinberg will most likely prove me wrong (as usual).

I don't know if I'll manage to do that today, Steve :>)

However, the poster might check with Adobe - get their font catalog; they just  
might have a true all-uppercase typeface available - as in days of yore. Only such  
a designed typeface really works well visually - when you try to fake it with big &  
small uppercase from the same typeface, you get big & small stroke widths which  
don't match. However, bad typography is the standard today, so what the heck.
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|   Email : robertw@informix.com |        Graphic designer        |
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ott@ansoft.com (nancy ott)
Subject: Filters & Framemaker conversion
Keywords: Filters, Framemaker, SGML, TeX
Organization: Ansoft Corp. Pittsburgh
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:13:20 GMT


Hi, all.

We are in the process of switching our technical writing department
over to the workstation version of Framemaker.  At the present, we're
using a document publishing system that's based on SGML.  There are
approximately 1500 pages of documentation in this format.
Additionally, there are about 500 pages of documentation in TeX.

We also have a **VERY** constrained budget.

I've looked into having a 3rd party convert our files, but the cost is
prohibitively expensive.  Does anyone know of any shareware filters
that could be used to conver SGML or TeX files into Framemaker format?

Would scanning hard copies of the documentation be a viable
alternative?  Does Framemaker have an SGML product?  (A possible
complication: since I have no other experience with SGML besides the
package we're currently using, I don't know if it's 100% compatible
with the standard.)

I would greatly appreciate any advice and / or suggestions.



Thanks, 

- nancy








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From: elw@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Eddie Williamson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:44:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Keyboard command wanted: highlighting text
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

> 
> In trying to eliminate use of the mouse, I must find a way to
> highlight text with keyboard commands (rather than using the
> mouse).  I often need to remove/alter a portion of a sentence
> 
> 	1.  mark text at Point A
> 	2.  advance the cursor to Point B (highlighting the
> 	    text between the two points)
> 	3.  alter the highlighted text
> 

Try holding down the shift key while using the arrow keys. It works
for me on a HP-UX workstation.
From: hughg@bnr.co.uk (H.J.Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker HyperText
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:25:58 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.45
Summary: Can HyperText markers be inserted automatically

Is there any way to  get Hypertext markers inserted using autonumber
or some such facility?

(It seems to me that it ought to be possible to do this, in fact I
think frame should able to automatically put HyperText markers in for
things that appear in the TOC, and, or IX.)

I realise that I could write a shell script to convert the book's files
to MIF, insert markers and then convert them back again. However,
I do not want to convert the files to MIF format as in my experience 
this process is not guaranteed reversible, and I want a general facility
that can be run for any document as part of its approval and storage process.

         hughg
__________________________________________________________________________
Hugh Griffiths          hughg@bnr.co.uk       Voice: +44 - (0)279 403287
BNR, London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA       Fax: +44 - (0)279 451434
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