From: endevour@next04csc.wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: Propaganda Sheet -> Kuffar or former gaurdians ? 
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:49:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.140639.5205@usl.edu> zxs6373@usl.edu (Siddiqui  
Zafar) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.053513.15612@wam.umd.edu> endevour@wam.umd.edu  
(Afghan) writes:
> >In article <9211101809.AA14209@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
hyetim@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hasan Yetim) writes:
> >>Assalam-o-alaikum
> >>
> >>    Here is Interview of Brother  Gulbadeen  Hikmat Yar. This  
interview was
> >>taken by Muhammad Javed Mirza on 10th of October in CHAHAR ASIAB near  
Kabul.
> >>He mailed me the copy of that interview and I am reproducing it.
> >>
> >>Shaukat Ali Bhatti
> >>_________________________________
> >>Sbhatti@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
> >>
> >
> >For those netters who are not totally familiar with the situation in
> >Afghanistan this should serve as a fair warning that this interview 
> >is none but a neatly written propaganda sheet. 
> >
> >Gulbudin tried his best to form alliances with the former communists
> >in order to secure power in Kabul. He failed and the current puppet 
> >President won. Now Gulbudin wants to make a virtue out of a necessity 
> >in portraying himself as the defender of democracy and Islam. The fact
> >is he is none but a power hungry war monger who played the most  
negative
> >role in the Afghan Jihad. His followers are a bunch of under achievers 
> >who are totally outcasted from the main-stream of Afghan society. 
> >
> >
> 
> AssalamAlaikum.
> 
> Brother why do you help further the cause of the kuffar by branding the
> mujahids as terrorists and power hungry.

Next time be more specific as to who these Kuffar are ? I am an Afghan 
muslim who happen to love my country. I honour the Afghan Jihad and the
Afghan Mojahedin. I have lived in Pakistan and have seen every aspect of
Jihad. I have seen true Mojahedin. I have seen true struggle. Mr.Hekmatyar
is no Mojahed. His peaple did as much harm to the Afghan Jihad as the 
Khalqies and Parchamies did. He waged territorial wars against Mojahedin
groups, he brutalized local population, he assasinated prominant Afghan
Mojahed leaders. He is by every defination a criminal and a terrorist 
and the entire Afghan population knows it. 

Now let us talk about these Kuffar that you are so sensitive about. 
Obviously you are refering to western countries particularly United 
States. First of all they are not Kuffar since they are "Ahle-Ketab".
Second of all if it was not for these Kuffar Gulbudin or, for that, the 
Hezbe-e-Islami would have never existed in the first place. 

For those of us who were in Pakistan it was a well known fact that most
of the CIA arms pipeline for the Mojahedin was given to Gulbudin because
he was the favourite son of General Hasan Akhtar of ISI, the original 
devil who unleashed the pestilence of Peshawar seven against the Afghan
peaple. He died along with General Zia and is hopefully burning in hell 
for his manipulation of the sacred Jihad of the the Afghan peaple. 

You all should have the decency to admit that if it was not for the west,  
the so called Ikhwani movement would have 
been yet another lost cause pursued by a bunch of losers in the streets 
Egypt or Sudan. It was the west, your big brother, who financed and 
supported you guys, it was the COMPANY, yes, the CIA operatives who build
you guys up because you made good mercinaries against the Communist tide. 
Now that your services are aparatly no longer required you seem to have 
changed color and are against your fomer gaurdians.

If the west had not supported you , how else can you explain that  
Mr.Gulbudin could stack up seven million 
dollors in drug money, reaped from the poppy fields of Helmand and Farah, 
in a Japanese bank and get away with it. How else could an engineering
school flunky who was ousted from Kabul University hostil for  
"questionalbe sexual" behavior, a former Parchami, an open ISI agent 
working for former Pakistani prime minister ( Zulfaqar Ali Butto), become
the so called leader of the holy resisitance of the Afghan peaple against 
the alien invaders. Hekmatyar owes his very existance to the very Kuffar
that he is denouncing now. 

It should be us, the Afghan peaple, the same peaple who have Islam 
merged into the very fabric of their society, who have the right to call
into question the western strategy in Afghanistan. A strategy that created
and endorsed monsters like Hekmatyar or his fellow Peshawarites and thus  
prolonged the misery of the Afghan peaple.



> As rightly pointed out by Hikmatyar,
> it is true that after the fall of Russia and its puppet govt. in Kabul,
> Islamic government couldn't be formed. I am sure the two million afghan
> shaeeds didn't lay down their lives for anything but Islam.

Islam and Watan. Two million Afghans died to free the mother land 
from alien domination. Islam is already merged into the fabric
of Afghan society and Afghan culture is an Islamic culture. And we, 
the Afghans will do anything in our power to safegaurd our culture, 
our religion against a noisy minority who tend to redefine Islam in 
order to suit their purposes. The Islamic Government Hekmatyar and 
his brethren are crowing about is yet another form of dictatorship cloaked
under the name of Islam. They claim that they want to go to the very
basics in Islam yet their actions shows that they hardly know the basics
of humanity. 

> So if afghanistan fails to have an Islamic government in Kabul it would 
> be a mockery of those great souls who sacrificed their lives in the 
> cause of Islam. 

Afghanistan will have a milli, Islami, self determined government elected
by the triditional Afghan system of LOYA GIRGA. 

> And one thing is very certain. Kuffar and the munafiks among the muslims 
> abhor the very idea of a muslim government.They would like to see any >    
> form  of government except an islamic one. Brother did you notice the 
> campaign of 
> the western media to make a hero out of some 'mujahedeen' and the former
> communist generals.

Obviously you are talking about Commander Masood and Dostum. Now what ever
the current situation in Afghanistan let us face a few facts.

Masood had the guts to live inside Afghanistan, to live in the hostile 
mountains of Panjsheer and defended his territory like a man. Like 
your brother Hekmatyar he did not live in villas in Peshawar, he did 
not ride in bullet proof cars and did not spent all his Jihad years 
assasinating his rivals. 

Now let us talk about what is happening today. Yes, granted that Masood 
probably make a mistake to form an alliance with Dostum. It is a pity,
because for most of the Afghans Masood was a hero of Afghan Jihad. Maybe
he was a good fighter and not a good statesman. Mind, I am not defending
him. I think he has damaged his postion considerably by assuming the 
minister ship of in the current set up in Kabul. But let us not be quick
to hang someone before we have assessed all the facts of the matter.

I do not know what kind of delusion has lead you and your brethren to 
think that Masood is currently made into a hero. Yes, he was a hero of
Afghan Jihad but that was during the Jihad years. Currently I have
rarely heard Masood mentioned in the western media.

Now for Dostum. Dostum is as unpopular in the western mass media as your
Hekmatyar. Yes there is this repeating refrence to the fact that he
facilitated the fall of Najeeb , which is true. Your Hekmatyar sent him 
a letter praying for his success when Dostum was about to switch sides.
However, I do think he shouldn't have been promoted to four star general,  
and in some way Masood should have tried to merge his forces into his own 
thus comming out the the transition as the stronger party. I do not know
what went wrong. Any way Dostum can not be totally ignored. A compromise
is in place because he is there and forcing him to do something he is not
willing to will lead to blood shed and even partition of Afghanistan. We
do not want that to happen.

Now if he is not leaving Kabul because it is quite apparant that Hekmatyar
is ready to over run Kabul the momemnt Dostum is gone. Frankly nobody  
wants that. It is a situation like choosing between the devil and the deep
sea and I guess Hekamtyar's 600rocket/hour genocide of Kabul citizens have
made Dostum the better of the two devils.

For the Afghans, for us, both Hekmatyar and Dostum derserve the hangman's
rope. They are both war crminals. We pray that Allah get rid of both of
them and return peace and prosperity to our homeland.