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From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Ethernet_II vs. 802.3 Help Needed
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:00:50 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <92204.210403AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, <AI4CPHYW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
> I have a question . . .
>
>[NetWare Intergraph supports Ethernet II encapsulation only, workstations
  are mostly using Novell's "raw 802.3" encapsulation]
>[deletia]
>
> What I want to know is if there are any other options?  Can I set a
> bridge or router to translate packets from 802.3 to Ethernet_II?  (In
> general, is there any way to translate 802.3 to E_II)  Or have I been
> stuck in the unenviable position of having to reset IPX on 200+
> machines.

Here at IUPUI we use Ethernet II encapsulation on the backbone and Novell's
"raw 802.3" encapsulation only on subnets and only if there is a good reason
for it (already having dozens/hundreds of workstations using raw-802.3
definitely qualifies as a good reason as Jay Sissom will testify).  We have
a Cisco router between the subnets and the backbone in each building.  For
each interface on the Ciscos we get a choice of one encapsulation or the
other.  The Ciscos perform frame conversion when routing from one interface
to another as necessary.  If you are using Novell servers to route IPX, you
can do something similar to this.  In fact, I think that Novell routers can
be configured to route between two encapsulations on the same interface,
which the Ciscos don't do.  Someone else in this newsgroup ought to be able
to provide the details about this.

Being able to do these kinds of things points out one of the advantages
of using routers instead of bridges (in OSI terminology, network layer
intermediate systems vs. data link layer intermediate systems).

It's kind of sad that "raw 802.3" is the default, but I suppose it remains
so for backward compatibility for people who always take all the defaults
when doing an installation.

> Any help or pointers you can give would be appreciated.  Our I-graph
> tech support people seem stumped and our CNE isn't quite sure about
> what to do either.
>                       -Alec D. Isaacson
>                        AI4CPHYW @ miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
>                        isaacson @ rogue.acs.muohio.edu (NeXt Mail)
>                        Miami University, Oxford, OH
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>               All good work is done in defiance of upper management.
>                                      -Unknown
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From: brim@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mike Brim - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Need virus protection on Novell 2.2 server
Keywords: novell virus
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:54:33 GMT
Reply-To: brim@cbmvax.UUCP (Mike Brim - Product Assurance)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA

I'm in need of a virus protection program that will run on
a Novell 2.2 dedicated server.  I would prefer the program load 
at boot up, scan the network drives and memory, then remain in memory 
"checking" for a virus (something like Vshield for DOS).  Does such
a program exist?

Thanks
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From: cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: QUESTIONS : bootp & novell
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:43:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

x98943@phillip.edu.au writes:
: >
:   You cant run a BOOTP SERVER ( or not that I know of ) on novell, but if 
: your running a V3.11 Novell server you can run a bootp forwarder on the 
: server. Its an NLM utility, I think its called BOOTPFWD.NLM ( correct me if
: i'm wrong ), and it should be available from Simtel, among other places.
: ( Check your archie server !! )
: 
: Essentialy, it forwards a bootp request ( and replies ) for IP addresses, 
: among other things, from the PC to a Bootp Server running somewhere else, 
: like a Sun Workstation for example as is in my case!
: 
: I use BOOTP mainly for NCSA Telnet and Popmail/PC and it all works extreamly
: well for me !
: 
: Also, if you intend to try this you have to have TCP/IP routing implemented
 on your Novell Server if you haven't already !

What about the RARP server?  Or the ARP server?  Both should do what you
need.

Charles


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: maniac@cleanhead.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: Just what is BNETX?
Reply-To: maniac@cleanhead.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 02:12:20 GMT

A few weeks back, when I had no time to follow it, everyone was
talking about BNETX, a Burst Packet version of NETX.

I've got a few questions about that.  First of all, does this
speed up a stand-alone LAN, or will it only speed up communications
across routers?  Is there a benefit to using it in a single network
environment?

I understand there is an NLM that lets the File Server do this as
well.  I take it that this is necessary for the workstations to
be able to burst to/from the file server.

Finally, where can we get a copy of BNET?

-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@jimi.cs.unlv.edu
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Pegasus and Charon
X-Sender: newtout 0.01 Jul 13 1992
Date: 30 Jul 92  19:54:00

On <Jul 30 19:54> Peter Furmonavicius writes:

 PF> Hello.  Could someone point me to the ftp site that has the very latest
 PF> versions of Pegasus and Charon?  Thank you.

risc.ua.edu
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:43:25 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Jul28.130538.1@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>But I thought the original poster claimed that SPX wasn't implemented because
>some database application didn't work, and then others replied claiming that
>SPX _was_ implemented because other SPX applications worked (RCONSOLE?).

Yes, i believe my statement was incorrect.  Apparently SPX isn't just
missing, it's present but broken, so it doesn't work for some
applications under some conditions.  Forget i mentioned it, and in the
future i'll try to limit my comments issues i actually understand.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: alanj@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alan Jay)
Subject: Unable to Boot Novell 3.11 Server "Invalid record in load file"
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:00:27 GMT


Hi,

One of my Novell 3.11 servers occasionally refuses to boot
with the error "Invold record in load file".  Any one have
any ideas?

Also occasionally machines will not logon to the server with
an error saying something along the lines of too many files
open.... (sorry to not be more informative on this one as I
din;t write it down.  It appears to go away when you reboot
the server.)

Thanks in advance for your help.

ALan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: digiuser@endor.byu.edu (Robert Perkins)
Subject: Re: Help with Novell's ODI drivers
Reply-To: Rob_Perkins@byu.edu
Organization: Brigham Young University -- Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:21:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.181252.1@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu  
writes:
> In article <BrzAx2.2x7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jiliu@copper.ucs.indiana.edu  
(Jian Liu) writes:
> > lh pktodi
>      ^^^^^^What's this??
> 
> > lh odipkt
> > lh pktint

Uh, what's "pktint"?  If it's necessary, where do I go to get it?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Subject: Re: Can NW bridge, and not route IP? (lengthy)
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:07:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.203813.19466@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> id@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca (Ian Duncan) writes:
>
>If you think OSPF is going to solve the existing problem for large
>installed heterogenous networks (ie. existing networks that involve more
>than Netware for routing) then I can only hope someone else at Novell is
>making the strategic decisions! Sorry if that seems a little harsh

Well, yes I do feel it was a little harsh seeing as that isn't what I
sayed at all. Don't feel bad though. A good friend of mine is a dyslexic too.

>A properly implemented Proxy-ARP is all I need (well, all that I'll ask
>for today). Now **when**?

In the fullness of time.

>[ Description of the problems of large subnetted and internetworked
>  environments deleted ]
>
>Does that answer your question?

Hmmm. You must be referring to the application of Proxy ARP as layed down
in RFC 1027 "Using ARP To Implement Transparent Subnet Gateways" circa
1988 (Carl-Mitchell/Quarterman). I wouldn't know anything about that.
However, I have made a strategic decision that, were we to implement
such an advanced feature, I will recommend to upper management that we
bundle it into NetWare SQL because I feel it will have a profound impact
on Database technology.

Keith
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Novell San Jose Development Center               Fax:   (408) 473 8990
2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131      Net:   keith@novell.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.dcom.lans.novell
From: urbans@lmv.lm.se (Urban Sundstrom)
Subject: Re: Novell to TCP/IP bridges or gateways?
Keywords: gateways, bridges, software
Organization: National Land Survey of Sweden, S-801 82 Gavle, Sweden. (LMV).
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:02:24 GMT

In article <14kcjsINNcr8@agate.berkeley.edu> sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu (Sanford Owings) writes:
>In article <1992Jul9.161305.8389@news.uni-stuttgart.de> skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok) writes:
>>I want to be able to connect a Novell-Lan consisting of 10 Workstations
>>plus one server with a TCP/IP-Lan of seven UN*X workstations. More
>>specifically I'd like to be able to run NCSA-telnet on the Novell-PC's
>>to connect to the UN*X-boxes. 
>>
>>What hardware do I need?
>

>
>>Is there any public domain solution?
>
>Sorry, no.  With Novell's market share, they don't have to give things away.
>
>Good luck!  Sanford Owings <sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu>

THERE IS A PUBLIC DOMAN SOLUTION !!!!  Use the Clarkson University
Packet drivers, available by ftp from many places.

Get it from sun.soe.clarkson.edu or pullux.lu.se


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From: 890191c@dragon.acadiau.ca (Kevin Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Expanding Environment for Novell Mapping
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:24:44 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

We have a 486 file server running 3.11 .  This server is dedicated to running
one application .  Access to the server is through batch files.  The batch files
map 3 drives, two hard mapped one search.  The hard nappings work with no 
problems, but occasionally the search mapping  generates an error:
NO ROOM TO EXPAND PATH ENVIRONMENT.

The workstations all have :

1  )  A shell command to expand the environment to 640 bytes.

2  )  8 mapped drives:  3 Hard Mapped and 5 Search Mapped.

3  )  Rebooting seems to fix the error.

If you have any insight or experience in dealing with this novell error
please share your thoughts with me.  If you would like more inormation 
about this please ask.

My e-mail address is 890191@dragon.acadiau.ca or ibiggs@fox.nstn.ns.ca

Thank you.

Kevin Crawford --> ACOA Halifax, Acadia University
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Can NW bridge, and not route IP?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:39:51 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul29.071546.18931@novell.com>, keith@novell.com (Keith Brown) writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.025506.23306@unixg.ubc.ca> martell@ucs.ubc.ca (Jonn Martell) writes:
>>
>>I know that I can route IP by using LOAD TCPIP FORWARD=YES but I don't
>>like the idea of "wasting" a subnet and get low-performance routing.
> 
> John, please! You may well have to "waste" an IP subnet as you would with
> any routing device but I assure you there is nothing "low-performance"
> about NetWares routing unless you cripple us with low end hardware (like
> 8 bit LAN adapters for example).
> 
>>Is there any way to forward IP packets without requiring two different
>>subnets?
> 
> No. We have no vanilla bridging capability today. Hell, you'll be
> asking for spanning tree support next and of course none of us here at
> Novell know what that is. Oh... except for that Novell guy doing the
> training on it at our last developer conference in Salt Lake. Oh... and then
> there was the other Novell guy who took the other session on the
> subject, the one I didn't go to that is. Oh, and then there's me of
> course. If you need to know about Bee Pee Dee You's (that's Bridge
> Protocol Data Units for anyone who cares), i'm your man. But then
> I suppose you could ask whats'is face over in building 5. I think
> he knows something. And then there's old whatchamacallim.......
> 
> OK, we're Novell. Any questions?
> 
> Keith
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> Novell San Jose Development Center               Fax:   (408) 473 8990
> 2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131      Net:   keith@novell.COM
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	Just one (today): when will Novell provide a simple IP bridge? The
reason is not to solve the world but just very tiny pieces of it, those
which have a handful of stations on the other side of the server from a
backbone. This problem of forced subnetting to handle small situations is
very common, as you know at least as well as I do, and so once a month or
so I carefully degrease the axel and rotate the "Where's an IP bridge in
NW 3.11" wheel a spoke (sic) or two. If such a simple bridge were available
then it could be used in the low volume cases and free the rest of the site
from subnetting to satisfy the handful. In cases of more than a small handful
then regular routing, as per the present NW 3.11, is clearly called for. I
guess the name should be something like IP-LITE.NLM or IP-FWD.NLM or such,
given that Chatterbox is already registered.
	Btw, thanks**2 for the second installment of ODI manuals. Good stuff
that.
	Joe D.
From: brugalle@cicb.fr (Annie Brugalle - CICB Rennes 99.84.71.27)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Downloading pc diskless on NOVELL networks
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:53:54 GMT
Organization: CICB, Universite' de Rennes I, FR

I post this message for a colleague who hasn't access to the News :


The problem is that they have some PC Diskless with a boot-prom which send
on the Network a broadcast like that :

"Hello, I am a PC NOVELL with a 3C503 card, who has the soft 
 for Downloading me?

Of Course, One server has this soft for PC 3C503 but another server
whithout this soft answers before him and says :

"Sorry, I havent the soft for you" and the PC is stuck.......

So, all the PC servers must have the soft for 3C503 ( 400 K for each!!)

On their campus, they have several Networks and it's the server of
a Network whithout PC diskless which has the soft for downloading 
PC diskless of the other Novell Networks.

Has somebody encountered and resolved this problem ?


Could you answer directly to my colleague  or in this group ? 
I 'll transmit to him.

here is his email address:

           Dominique.Marant@Citilille.fr

Thanks in advance,

Annie brugalle .
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: nsharma@sharm.uucp (Nawien Sharma)
Subject: wide area standards for IPX routing ?
Organization: Sharmtech Systems Inc., Willowdale, Ont., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:18:34 GMT


What "standards" exists for transmitting IPX data over X.25 and 
frame relay ? RFC1294 and RFC 877 proposals do not mention IPX.

Most router vendors do not state what specifications
they are using for either protocol when moving IPX data.
Also how well are vendors able to interoperate and exchange IPX packets 
with other vendors routers ?

Thank you.
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106 Norton Avenue, Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2N 4A5
(TEL): 416-512-7878 (UUCP): sharm.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: PETER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu (Peter Furmonavicius)
Subject: Pegasus and Charon
Organization: Yale University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:48:27 EDT

Hello.  Could someone point me to the ftp site that has the very latest
versions of Pegasus and Charon?  Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: wide area standards for IPX routing ?
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:35:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Jul24.051834.1367@sharm.uucp> nsharma@sharm.uucp (Nawien Sharma) writes:
>
>What "standards" exists for transmitting IPX data over X.25 and 
>frame relay ? RFC1294 and RFC 877 proposals do not mention IPX.
>
>Most router vendors do not state what specifications
>they are using for either protocol when moving IPX data.
>Also how well are vendors able to interoperate and exchange IPX packets 
>with other vendors routers ?
>
>Thank you.
>-- 
>Nawien Sharma, Sharmtech Systems Inc. ..uunet.ca!snitor!sharm!nsharma
>106 Norton Avenue, Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2N 4A5
>(TEL): 416-512-7878 (UUCP): sharm.UUCP

There are a few 'emerging' standards for encapsulating IPX in the above.
The more relevant one is "Multiprotocol Interconnect over X.25 and ISDN
in the Packet Mode" Internet-Draft.  It was approved for an rfc number about
a week ago.

Also, Michael Allen of Novell has published an Internet-Draft, soon to 
be an informational rfc, on IPXWAN, a required negotiation protocol for IPX
router to router communication.  This runs on all WAN media, including
PPP.  It is being re-released as I speak with some minor modifications.
However, you can pick up the current document from ftp.novell.com in the
ietf directory.

Today, all vendors exchange IPX traffic by proprietary means.  The above
documents are the solution to the problem.  At the last IETF PPP meeting,
I asked which vendors will converge on Novell's specification, and they
*ALL* will.  At last!

Chris
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Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
(408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Re: Dialup access to my Novell LAN?
Summary: Can someone tell me of a cheap dialup package for my Novell LAN?
Keywords: dialup Novell LAN access
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:42:53 GMT

>Can someone tell me of a cheap software package which will allow me to dialup
>my Novell LAN and login as a user on Ethernet?  Does such a package exist?

We use Novell's Netware Access Server.  Its not real cheap, but cheaper than
some of the alternatives.  It requires a dedicated 386 as well.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek)
Subject: Re: BYU packet driver IPX doesn't do SPX
Organization: Connectivity Products Group -- Novell, Inc
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:46:41 GMT

In article <brian.19.0@Novell.COM> brian@Novell.COM (Brian Meek -- I) write:
[...] various stuff deleted...
>
>Besides, I for one would hate to see us put Russell out of business...
>
>
>
>One might wonder why 

I feel compelled to apologize for this element of my previous posting.
Concerning the first paragraph, I really would hate to see Russell and 
Crynwr out of business.  The contributions that he/Clarkson/Packet Driver
/Crynwr/whatever have made to further the cause networking are immense,
particularly to those using NetWare on the Internet.  I respect his talents 
and personally like the man.  In fact, a hardware manufacture called me
the other day to ask if I knew of any good contract programmers out
there that might be willing to work on their DOS ODI driver...  I referred 
them to Crynwr, being that Russ is well experienced in the general field.

The unfortunate "One might wonder why" was the result of my trying to 
get use to a new NNTP tool that I'm testing out.  It was the beginning 
of an unrelated, unfinished thought and had no relation to the previous
paragraph.  My apologies for wasting bandwidth...

-- brian
___________________________________________________________________________
Brian Meek                      Novell, Inc. -- Connectivity Products Group
                                Internet mail:  brian@Novell.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: christie@rx.xerox.com (Tony Christie)
Subject: Novell utilities for Windows
Keywords: Windows, Novell
Reply-To: christie@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:37:57 GMT

Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but I checked the FAQ list posted today and there no mention of this question.

Are there any novell utilities for Windows ? The FAQ lists a number of FTP sites for novell stuff, but I have not got the time to search each site until I find some.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

	-- Tony

               Tony Christie      Senior Network Specialist

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