HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: benchmark of /dev/msg: it DOES slow disk access!
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:30:39 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
: hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
: > So the original poster (Earthbound Misfit, I was it?) was correct: the active
: > use of /dev/msg by mtalk DOES indeed reduce disk throughput.
: > 
: > Any reason for this? (If you want the benchmak sourcecode and my numerical
: > results, just ask.)
: > 
: > Anyone know why mtalk should cause a fourfold cut in disk read time?
: 
: This is just an educated guess, but doesn't the use of messages reduce the
: available kernel space that can be used for the buffer cache?  A reduced
: buffer cache would certainly hit disk I/O performance.

Really a well thought guess, but mtalk reduced the I/O performance also
under Coherent 4.0. When you boot 4.0, it displays the size of the
buffer cache, so I think I/O cache is either static or allocated at
boot up. Also 4.0 hasn't the limit of a 64KB kernel pool, so I think the
messages don't reduces the I/O cache. And the performance slows down,
if mtalk is running without any input and for that, without any
messages on their way.
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From: mead@hamal.usc.edu (Dick Mead)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: When 4.x upgrade?
Date: 12 Aug 1992 10:47:01 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamal.usc.edu


When I ordered version 4.x, I was told there would be a delay, and
was offered 3.2 to get started, with a promise of an automatic 4.x
update. When may I expect shipment? If I state that I don't care
if I start from scratch with 4.x, can I just get it now and not
deal with trying to update my 3.2 installation?

Richard Mead

mead@usc.edu




Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: lentz@gandalf.ca (Jim Lentz (Wheeling Tech Support))
Subject: Re: anybody care to share thier opinions on the new 32bit release?
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:44:26 GMT

In <9208122006.51@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:

>In article <BssDt6.3qy@edefix.han.de> edi@edefix.han.de (E. v. Pappenheim) writes:
>>X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
>>
>>aph@oclc.org (Andrew P. Houghton) writes:
>>: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>>: : dennis@fnbc.com (Dennis Box ) writes:
>>: : 
>>: : > Subject: Re: anybody care to share thier opinions on the new 32bit release?
>>: : > 
>>: : > Well?
>>: : 
>>: : Just as soon as I receive my update, I promise to post lots of first, second
>>: : and third impressions.
>>: : 
>>: 
>>: I have been running 4.0 for about a week.  I think they rushed it too
>>: soon.  I crashed it several times.  Once I booted my machine cold it
>>: got thru "loading Coherent" and the file system check then /bin/sh
>>: died and trashed my file system.  Reinstall from scratch.  The uucp
>>: directions in the book for uuinstall don't work.  I followed them to a
>>: tee, no go.  However the ones for manual install only have a few
>>: gotchas in them.  So I was able to get uucp up and connect to mwcbbs.
>>: Now I am trying send mail and its keeps getting rejected with an error
>>: 68 or something.  I tried to look it up in the manual but of course
>>: its not there.  I the course of testing mail I got some message "bad
>>: arenea" and could not execute any other program.  Tried to look that
>>: up and nothing doing.  I happened to be logged in as root at the time,
>>: so rather that trash the file system I tried to execute shutdown.
>>: Same message.  For shits and grins I tried exec shutdown and that
>>: worked.  So I concluded it could not fork.  Tried to use Lex.  I typed
>>: a program right out of the book in the tutorial, I think page 220, and
>>: it did not produce the same results... Life goes on and I suspect that
>>: I will encounter more... Andy.
>>: -- 
>>: Andrew P. Houghton, MC 465                     Internet:  aph@oclc.org
>>: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.      UUCP:      colnet!sppy00!aph
>>: 6565 Franz Road                                Voice:     (614) 764-6003
>>: Dublin, Ohio  43017-0702                       Fax:       (614) 764-6096
>>
>>I'm running 4.0 since the early 'developers edition' days, and it NEVER
>>crashed or trashed a file system. It is my news and mail host, running
>>Cnews, tin and elm, and does this job (including uucp) without a glitch.


>Same here.

>-- 

>Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP

 Same here, except I can't use virtual consoles. In reading the manual I believe my
keyboard is not 100% compatible. Anyone have this problem besides me?
p
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From: roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth)
Subject: Coh 4.0.1 crontab problems
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:48:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cameron Park, CA

I successfully upgraded to Coherent 4.0.1!!

Now I would like to convert my old /usr/lib/crontab to use the new
/usr/spool/cron/crontabs/.., but whenever I move the items for root 
uucp to execute from the old /usr/lib/crontab to the new directory,
they stop working.

This has gotten to be a pain since I have upgraded GNEWS and compiled
it under 4.0.1 to be 386 executables, so the old 'besomeone' of 286
vintage does not exist in the new crontab structure.

Here is my old /usr/bin/crontab:
# /usr/lib/crontab 10/23/90

# Execute atrun every five minutes.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * *	/usr/lib/atrun

# Clean uucp logs at 0001 every day.
01 00 * * * su uucp sh /usr/lib/uucp/uumvlog 1
05 00 * * * su uucp sh /usr/lib/uucp/uutraffic

# Run gnewrrun, Clean up GNEWS logs and kill stuff over 10 days old
08 00 * * * besomeone 'root' 'gnewslog'
10 00 * * * besomeone 'root' 'gnewsexp 10'
15 4,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * besomeone 'root' 'gnewsrun'

# monitor /usr/spool/uucp for outgoing stuff and transmit
24,54 * * * *      su uucp sh /usr/bin/uumonitor

# Conditionally poll sites
19 1 * * 3   su uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -smwcbbs
40 1 * * 3   su uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -santares
30 2 * * 3   su uucp uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/mwcnews/news ~/

My /usr/spool/cron/crontabs/root should look like this:
---------------
# /usr/spool/cron/crontabs/root 8/22/92

# Execute atrun every five minutes.
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * *	/usr/lib/atrun

# Run gnewrrun, Clean up GNEWS logs and kill stuff over 10 days old
08 00 * * * gnewslog
10 00 * * * gnewsexp 10
15 4,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * gnewsrun
-------------

And my /usr/spool/cron/crontabs/uucp should look like this:

---------------------
#/usr/spool/cron/crontabs/uucp 8/22/92

# Clean uucp logs at 0001 every day.
01 00 * * * /usr/lib/uucp/uumvlog 1
05 00 * * * /usr/lib/uucp/uutraffic

# monitor /usr/spool/uucp for outgoing stuff and transmit
24,54 * * * *      /usr/bin/uumonitor

# Conditionally poll sites
19 1 * * 3   /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -smwcbbs
40 1 * * 3   /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -santares
30 2 * * 3   uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/mwcnews/news ~/
-------------------------

I deleted the old /usr/lib/crontab and used the new ones and nothing
is working???????

Any suggestions on how to get this to work???

GNEWSRUN, GNEWSEXP and GNEWSLOG all are now compiled to be 386
executables, and all run from the root command line and work fine
(and fast), but I am back to running the 286 versions until all of
this stuff is cleared up.

As an FYI, TASS for GNEWS is also recompiled and working well under
386.  I have not gotten all of the bugs out of COMB yet under 386
mode.

Thanks,
------
Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA              Coherent 3.2
neptons!roger@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
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From: fanelli@gagme (michael fanelli)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Keyboards and 4.0
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:29:25 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have now tried two Keytronics, a Focus, a DEC, and an IBM keyboard with
Coherent (the disk says 4.0, hmm, is 4.01 out already?). Anyway, only one
of the Keytronics worked! The other three had assorted problems.

OK, explain to me, a non-Unix (yes, I'll say it, VMS!!) what the stuff
about incompatible keyboards is all about. What makes them incompatible?

Yes, I could (and will for now) use the one working Keytronics but I hate 
it's mushy keyboard! For Windows 3.1 word processing, I have to change
the keyboard to one of the others. Oh well...

			mike fanelli
			72040.2460@compuserve.com
From: landstry@tpki.toppoint.de (Michael Schack)
Subject: german keyboard failure??
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:56:34 GMT

Hello everybody,

today I`ve got coherent 4.0 from JF Lehmann in Berlin. I
installed it (it took about one hour) and all is fine untill I
try a backslash (\)! On my keyboard I get a "\" with AltGr-\
and further on I think the AltGr-key is active all the time
because no other key works but all keys which have a meaning
together with AltGr!!!

Is there a way to solve this problem? Any suggestions? It`s a
normal AT-keyboard.

Ijust begun with coherent and so I have no idea how to manage
this. My only way to do something else with coherent is to
reset and thats not the way it should go.

Thankfully for every hint,
micha...
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/ M. Schack /  / landstry  /  landstry@tpki.toppoint.de
             / Kiel      /               --internet--
           / Germany   /   gif01@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de

            

	    
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Do I have to recompile Cnews, WHEN I get my 4.0?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:04:38 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <9208172122.09@duncan> djm%duncan%iisat@cs.dal.ca (David John Murdoch) writes:
>	I am patiently waiting for my 4.0 update to arrive and I
>wonder if I will have to recompile Cnews for 4.0? 


No, it will run just fine.  I'm doing it now.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: CohWare volume III
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:43:27 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

edi@edefix.han.de (E. v. Pappenheim) writes:

> sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol) writes:
> 
> : I have been informed by the MWC sales department that there will be a
> : new set of CohWare disks coming out for 4.0; can someone give me an idea
> : of what's going to be on it? Thanks
> 
> According to my Release Notes of Coherent 4.0 there will be:
> 
> backgammon, battle, castle, chess, ckermit, cu, dash, dmake, elm, forth,
> gomoku, hexed, lander, mc, ogre, patch20, quebbs, rogue, sc, screen, sokoban,
> solitaire, tetris, unzip, taylor uucp, xcomm, zip, zoo.

So, has anyone ported nethack yet?

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Seeing links
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:30:39 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes:
: I can't find an answer to this in either the manual or the FAQ:
: 
: Is there a way to see what the links are between files on Coherent?  ls on
: the UNIX at UIowa shows them, but I can't find any reference to showing
: them on Coherent.  The only way I can think of to do this is comparing the
: creation times / sizes on various files, which is cumbersome at best, and
: impossible if the links are to files in separate directories.

Use the -i option together whis ls, it shows the I-node of the files.
If the I-nodes are equal this files are linked.
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From: pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Keyboards and 4.0
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:11:51 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.,Information Services

In article <1992Aug18.212925.25197@serveme.chi.il.us> fanelli@gagme (michael fanelli) writes:
>I have now tried two Keytronics, a Focus, a DEC, and an IBM keyboard with
>Coherent (the disk says 4.0, hmm, is 4.01 out already?). Anyway, only one
>of the Keytronics worked! The other three had assorted problems.
>

Join the club.  Same problem here.  My favorite keyboard didn't generate
a return when I went to install disk @2.  Now, this keyboard worked with
v3.2 (but I didn't like the mapping so I went to the fixed keyboard version
because of some difficulty with vi and the non-mapped stuff).

>OK, explain to me, a non-Unix (yes, I'll say it, VMS!!) what the stuff
>about incompatible keyboards is all about. What makes them incompatible?

There's other VMS types out here too!

What makes them incompatible is the IBM keyboards actually have their
own microcomputer.  Some older keyboards have less features than the
newer ones.  MWC programmed right to the silicon on this one, I figure.

What I want to understand is how SCO did multiscreens on all the old
4.77 mhz XT's like mine without the fancy keyboard controller chips
on all the keyboards in Xenix-86 (Including the semicompatible ATT/Olivetti
8086/80286 stuff.

(MWC - if you want to see it I'll show it to you...)

>
>Yes, I could (and will for now) use the one working Keytronics but I hate 
>it's mushy keyboard! For Windows 3.1 word processing, I have to change
>the keyboard to one of the others. Oh well...

I gave up on the multiscreens and I'm gonn put up 4 vt100's.
-- 
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        Bill Pechter, N2RDI           | The postman always pings twice.
        Concurrent Computer Corp.     | pechter@ocpt.ccur.com
        2 Crescent Place, Oceanport, NJ 07757 - Tel:908-870-4780 
Xref: sparky comp.os.coherent:3700 comp.bbs.waffle:1797
From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle vs. UUCP/rn on Coherent?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:07:51 EDT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> For those who don't know, Waffle is an application that will run on a variety
> of OS's, and for MS-DOS it provides uucico, uucp, uux, uuxqt; all quite usefu
> in talking to Usenet providers.  It also allows one to read/post news and ema
> As a news/mailreader, it is fairly plain and unexciting.  There are problems
> with Waffle's uucico... I cannot reliably feed 2400 bps systems.

If you cannot feed 2400 systems.. your system has problems somewhere - I
move a LOT of news and mail daily, the ONLY system I've had problems
feeding has been a coherent 3.X system

This coherent system would not take a 9600 connection that did better
than 400 cps, from a slow SUN and it worked OK.

Hopefully 4.x will be reasonable but if a system cant handle 400 bps I
cant use it AT ALL!

[ I want a unix box and coherent seems to come closest so far to what I
can afford to spend now but there are so many problems with 3.x that I
really wonder about 4.0 ]


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Xref: sparky comp.os.coherent:3732 comp.os.os2.misc:27487
From: edi@edefix.han.de (E. v. Pappenheim)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 files to Coherent using HPFS?
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:47:01 GMT
Organization: Private

X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

t9114145@phillip.edu.au writes:
: Is anyone using Coherent on the same HD as OS/2 2.0? I am wondering if
: I will still be able to transfer files to and from the two partitions
: if I choose OS/2's HPFS as opposed to the DOS FAT file system. Coherent
: supplies utilities for reading/writing etc. to a dos partition, will these
: still work (will OS/2 intercept and translate?) or will new utilities
: be required? If the latter, where can they be found?
:  
: I will stick with the FAT if the answer to both of the above questions is
: no, as transfer between the partitions will be very important.
: 
: -- 
: 
: Adam Eberbach    Computer Science student, RMIT.   t9114145@phillip.edu.au
:                "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"

Coherent does NOT know of HPFS, you have to stick with the FAT for your
primary DOS / OS/2 partition. But you can put OS/2 in a logical drive 
in your extended partition with HPFS and use the primary (the only Coherent's
DOS-programs know to deal with) for file transfer.

If you install Coherent, you have to use the master bootstrap, because the
OS/2 bootmanager is not able to boot Coherent. The masterboot does not
interfer with the bootmanager, you can use both.

Cheers,

Ecki
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: 4.0, Low level IO and problems...
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:46:53 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:
[lines deleted]
: > 3 - More seriously there is no LOW LEVEL DISK TOOL in coherent unlike
: >	   minix. It would be good to be able to directly modify the file
: >	   system from root... There is also no limited undelete as in 
: >	   minix. Are there any tools that allow a specified i-node to
: >	   be turned into a file? DUMP suposedly lets you select i-numbers
: >	   which are presumably i-nodes but doesnt mention how to do it.
: >	   Does anyone have any clues on turning I-NODES into files PLEASE?
: 
: Well, if one is really desparate, one could always use a debugger or
: patch utility on /dev/at[01][a-dx] in single user mode, but why?  All
: common filesystem errors are fixable from fsck.  Lost files (those
: that are allocated but have no name/parent are assigned to
: /lost+found.  If it's not there, you can't recover it.

Also see dcheck, icheck and clri. It's not hard to write an I-node
editor, but playing around with tools like this is very dangerous.

: Undeletes are just too dangerous on Unix-type systems because it's too
: hard to guarantee file system integrity when more than one agent is
: accessing the same information.  Remeber, the Unix file system
: utilities are designed with the thought that only they as a group will
: be fiddling with various hidden parts; they often assume that
: everything is okay, thus causing human-introduced errors to grow and
: expand in avalanche fashion.

There is a save way: substitue rm by a programm, which brings the file
to delete into an archive (tar, zip, cpio or whatever). After that the
file can be deleted by the new command. Write an undelete command which
extracts the file back from the archive, and then removes it from the
archive. Of cause this needs more or less diskspace. Take a look onto
DR-DOS 6.0, how DRI has solved this problem.

: So, instead of undelete,
: 
: 1) Make backups.
: 
: 2) Be careful when typing "rm" and the like.
: 
: 3) Learn from others' experience, it's often less painful than
: learning from your own.

Right, if you lose your "undelete archive" nothing helps anymore :-)
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From: root@rwsys.UUCP (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: tcp/ip for coherent
Organization: "rwsys" Data Communications, Surrey, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:47:34 +0100

friberg@mtu.edu (Kenneth W. Friberg) writes:
> I tried to send mail to Randy Wright about this, but it bounced.  I am
> trying to get an amateur radio BBS running using the sys5 ka9q package.
> Could you please make a copy of your sources, or diffs to an available
> source available?  Also, are the AX25 portions working, or haven't you
> worked on them?
> 
> Thanks
> Ken Friberg n8pbe
> 
Sorry bout the rubber mail. Reply to Randy_Wright@mindlink.bc.ca. I have
not attempted the ax.25 nor the netrom services available under ka9q. I've
been primarily concerned with getting the tcp/ip areas and the program as
a process to work properly.

There are only two more debugging tasks left, and all of the tcp/ip services
supplied in this edition of ka9q will be working. I need to connect the 
smtp mail services to Coherent's mail system, and get the program to
exist as a daemon. The domain services work now, and the program seems
stable enough to post to MWCBBS and raven soon. I personally, will not
be attempting to debug the ax.25 or netrom services. However, I would
not be surprised if they work now. I am grateful to see your call sign
on your sig, Ken, becuase the port really needs a radio person to carry
it forward. Hopefully you, or someone you are in contact with,
could check the TNC, KISS and related services under Coherent 4.0. 

BTW, a number of people have asked me whether it will run under 3.x. It
will not. I tried to compile it for 3.2. The image is 179kb, which is
far in excess of the 64k limit. A knowledgeble person could divide
the program into two or three concurrent programs conected by pipes
or something, and then run that under 3.x. 

The tar.z for the sources will be fairly large and expensive for me
to mail, so I'm gonna hurry up and try to get it on raven and MWCBBS
by this coming weekend. I will also try to arrange a way to get it
to Europe and to the Pacific for those who don't have ftp.

Wayned.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu will have a copy on his bbs, and 
hopefully he will make it available as well.

Yours Truly,
Randy Wright

x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
From: colega@GATECH.EDU (Gabriel Basco)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Disk2 Coherent 4.0
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:40:56 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Basco Guimaraens

Some of us had the great luck of getting 4.0 with disk 2 of
the installation an exact copy of disk1. Could someone tar and
compress the disk2 files and place it some FTP site so we
don't have to what for the update 'manual' for Coherent to
be published before they send out the disks?

Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: IDE drives
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 19:28:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Keywords: Oops  Darn


I just pulled out my old copy of Coherent (3.1.0) and tried to
install it on an IDE drive.  I'm doing this in preparation for the
arrival of either   1.  Hell freezing over
                    2.  The arrival of Coherent 4.0
I'm beginning to think it's a toss-up as far as which will
happen first.
Anyway, this won't install.  I assume it's the IDE drive.
Is that correct?