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From: ootsuka@caen1.cae.daikin.co.jp (Masato OOTSUKA)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: graphstone & khornerstone (In English)
Keywords: benchmark
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:17:19 GMT
Organization: CAE Center, Daikin Industries, Ltd., Osaka, Japan

Hello everybody,

I would like to know about Graphstone(garphic benchmark) and
Khornerstone(CPU & FPU & I/O benchmark) and to get them.

Is there anybody who knows more what the two benchmark and
how to get them?

I appreciate your help.

Best regards,
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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 3/17/91] Ways to fool the masses with benchmarks (15/28)	c.be. FAQ
Keywords: who, what, where, when, why, how
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks	<This panel>
16	SPEC
17
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence
21	TPC
22
23
24
25
26	Other miscellaneous benchmarks
27
28	References
1	Introduction to the FAQ chain and netiquette
2
3	PERFECT Club
4
5	Performance Metrics
6
7	Music to benchmark by
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11
12	Measurement Environments
13
14

From David Bailey et al.

Quote only 32-bit performance results, not 64-bit results.

Present performance figures for an inner kernel as the performance of the
entire application.

Quietly employ assembly code and other low-level language constructs.

Scale up the problem size with the number of processors, but omit any
mention of this fact.

Quote performance results projected to a full system.

Compare your results against scalar, unoptimized code on Crays.

When direct run time comparisons are required, compare with an old code
on an obsolete system.

If megaFLOPS rates must be quoted, base the operation count on the parallel
implementation, not on the best sequential implementation.

Quote performance in terms of processor utilization, parallel speedup or
megaFLOPS per dollar.

Multilate the algorithm used in the parallel implementation to match
the architecture.

Measure parallel run times on a dedicated system, but measure conventional
run times in a busy environment.

If all else fails, show pretty pictures and animated videos, and don't talk
about performance.

Ref. 1
NAS TR #

Ref. 2
%A David Bailey
%T Twelve Ways to Fool the Masses when Giving Performance Results on
Parallel Computers
%J Supercomputing Review
%V 4
%N 8
%D August 1991
%P 54-55

References
Darrell Huff, How to Lie with Statistics
	How to Lie with Maps

Gordon Bell's 11 rules of supercomputer design:

1) Performance, performance, performance.
2) Everything matters.
3) Scalar matter most.
4) Provide vectors as price allows.
5) Avoid holes in performance.
6) Place peaks in performance.

7) Provide a decade of addressing.
8) Make it easy to use.
9) Build on others work.
10) Design for the next one (and do it again) [three times]
11) Have slack resources.

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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: CONNOLLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU (John Connolly)
Subject: adenart?
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:00:09 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Anybody know of any benchmarks on the Matsushita parallel machine
called Adenart (peak rated at 20 Gigaflops) or its predecessor, the
Adena?

-j
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 3/17/92] New FAQ scaffold (6/28)		c.be FAQ
Keywords: who, what, where, when, why, how
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:25:46 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

6	Temporary scaffold of New FAQ material			<this panel>
7	Music to benchmark by
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11
12	Benchmark Environments
13
14
15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks
16	SPEC
17
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence
21	TPC
22
23	RFC 1242 terminology (network benchmarking)
24
25
26
27
28	References
1	Introduction to FAQ chain and netiquette
2	Benchmarking concepts
3	PERFECT Club/Suite
4
5	Performance Metrics

Terminology
	Evaluation
	Analysis
		Mean Value Analysis
	Measurement
Model
Equivalence
	Languages
	Surrogates

Minimal benchmarks
	Kernels
	Tests
Simulations of benchmarks
Results data base
Source code
	Version control
Reduciability
Representativeness
	Functionality, how do you know it works? (correctness)
Testing
Metrics
Experimental methodologies
	Asking the right questions
	Environments
		A
		B
		C
		D
		E
Workloads.

Output
	Analysis
	Interpretation
	Statistics, Composites, Averages, means, variance,
		Normalized numbers
	Graphics

Who
Virtual work
Application characterization

Kinds of benchmarkers
People who have to take numbers by faith.
People who reproduce but do so blindly.
People with the time and energy to do so.

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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: zippy@cs.mcgill.ca (Fotis XIPOLITAKIS)
Subject: SPARC Bencharks...
Summary: Computationally intensive bench marks....
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:47:50 GMT

	I'm looking for some computationaly intensive benchmarks... Can
	anyone supply me a list of some and were to get them... Is there
	an FAQ anyone could forward to me or tell me were to get that
	would answer my question...

	Note: I'm not looking for toy benchmarks...
From: aranake@cse.uta.edu (Sandeep Suresh Aranake)
Subject: Benchmarks
Keywords: ???
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:55:37 GMT

I would be thankful if you could let me know the source/availability
of the benchmark results available for sequent symmetry series machine.
I have some results computed by me and would like to verify them.

Also, I would appreciate if you could send me (let me know the sources)
technical information on the system architecture of symmetry machine.

Please E-mail to me any information you have on my above address.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Sandeep
From: walter@zarquon.Eng.Sun.COM (Walter Bays)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Re: SPEC 92 Results Availability
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:01:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zarquon

In article <1992Apr16.143713.69515@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> shafer@CS.ColoState.EDU (spencer shafer) writes:
>
>With the announcement of the new SPEC 92 suite and the "retirement"
>of the old test suite, does anyone have any idea how long we will
>need to wait before seeing results for the new benchmark?

The March newsletter, being mailed now, is over 100 pages, with over 50
results pages for the CINT92 and CFP92 suites alone.  A subscription
costs $550 from:

phone:  703-698-9600 ext 318
fax:    703-560-2752
mail:   spec
	c/o ncga
	2722 merrilee drive, suite 200
	fairfax, va 22031

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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: REPOST: Linpack MFLOPS, etc., For Workstations
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:13:14 GMT

I want to clarify that the Linpack MFLOPS numbers in the table below
were provided by the various vendors for the 100 by 100 matrix problem
size.  There are also 300 by 300 and 1000 by 1000 standard sizes for
reporting this benchmark, as well as unlimited sizes that are reported
for massively parallel machines, but I only have the 100 by 100 data.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
The numbers below were taken from the January, 1992, "HP Apollo 9000
Series 700 Performance Brief".
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Dhrystone Version	HP710	HP720	HP730	HP750
-----------------	-----	-----	-----	-----
1.1			101650	101770	134770	134700
2.0			 87530	 87910	116280	115860


Linpack Double Precision MegaFLOPS, inner loop rolled, 100x100 matrix
---------------------------------------------------------------------
IBM550		25.2
HP750		23.7
HP730		23.7
IBM530H		20.0
HP720		17.9
HP710		12.2
IBM320H		11.7
SGI 4D/35	 5.4
Sun SS2		 4.2
Sun IPX		 4.2
SGI Indigo	 4.1
Sun ELC		 3.0


KWIPS (1000s of Whetstone Instructions Per Second)
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Machine		Single		Double
-------		------		------
HP750		77.0		71.6
HP730		77.5		71.9
HP720		58.5		54.2
HP710		58.1		53.6
Sun SS2		29.3		19.5
Sun IPX		27.8		19.1
SGI 4D/35	24.2		19.2
Sun ELC		23.1		14.7
SGI Indigo	22.4		17.8



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From: iafinger@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Axel Finger)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: TPC Benchmark A  RS6000-550
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:40:06 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

Please help,

who has got TPC Benchmark A values for a the RS6000 machines
especially for model 550 or 560 ?

Axel
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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 3/17/92] music to benchmark by	(7/28)	c.be FAQ
Keywords: who, what, where, when, why, how
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 11:25:49 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

7	Music to benchmark by					<This panel>
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11
12	Measurement Environments
13
14
15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks
16	SPEC
17
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence
21	TPC
22
23
24
25
26
27
28	References
1	Introduction to the FAQ chain and netiquette
2
3	PERFECT
4
5	Performance Metrics
6

Benchmarking takes time.  Might as well listen to something useful.
Hey, engineers and scientists need some general education requirements and
to see the generally inteconnectedness of computing to the rest of the
world.

The Photographer by Philip Glass.
[Also "How to Get away with Second Degree Murder."]

Einstein at the Beach by Philip Glass.

"Democratic Process"
"Cowboy Lips"
"Art For Art's Sake" 
all off the "The Bobs" album on Kaleidoscope Records "K-18"
(P.O. box O, El Cerrito, CA, 94530)
[Excellent!  You are RIGHT!  SIGGRAPH 1984 as a good example]
jason@cs.utexas.edu

Dmitri Shostakovich
Aram Khachaturian
Sergei Prokofiev

as well as major cello concerti throughout the ages.  Paul Chihara's work
before he started writing for movies (if you can find it) is also good.
 
Or, if you're benchmarking a 16-processor Cray Y-MP C90, Chopin's Minute Waltz.

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From: shah@santur.tay1.dec.com (Amitabh Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Re: TPC Benchmark A  RS6000-550
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:03:16 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, TAY1, Littleton MA
In-reply-to: iafinger@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de's message of 7 Apr 92 09:40:06 GMT


On 7 Apr 92 09:40:06 GMT, iafinger@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Axel Finger) said:

> who has got TPC Benchmark A values for a the RS6000 machines
> especially for model 550 or 560 ?

Here are the numbers from the TPC, as of March 20, 1992.

Machine		DB Software	OS		TPS-A	K$/tps-A
-------		-----------	--		-----	--------
RS6000-550	Informix 4.0	AIX 3.2		51.00	13,869
RS6000-560	Informix 4.0	AIX 3.2		61.00	14,166
RS6000-560(c/s)	Informix 4.0	AIX 3.2		72.00	12,671

c/s = client/server configuration

Hope this helps.

-amitabh.

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From: sljn6@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Linpack library routines
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:34:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I was looking for two standard routines of LINPACK QR
1. dqrdc()
2. dqrsl()
Can anybody tell me how I can get hold of the library containing
these routines


Thanks

I am 
Rajiv Goyal
E-mail   SLJN6@cc.usu.edu
ph*   801-753-2761
From: cazier@mbunix.mitre.org (Cazier)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: VMS 5.5/POSIX
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:12:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr14.151244.3281
Organization: Houston, TX

We are interested in the performance of VMS 5.5/POSIX vs VMS 5.4
and in VMS 5.5/POSIX vs Ultrix/POSIX. Anyone have experience with
these systems re: benchmarking?
From: mash@mips.com (John Mashey)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Re: SPEC Results for Workstations
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:25:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: spim.kubudbINN47o
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: winchester.mips.com

In article <1944@eru.mt.luth.se> sow@cad.luth.se (Sven-Ove Westberg) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.234929.19182@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman) writes:
>|
>|
>|SPECfp Ratings for Various Workstations
>|----------------------------------------
>|SGI Indigo	 28.4
>|Sun SS2		 27.4
>|

>This is two very interesting figures that proves that the SPECS is as
>good as whetstone linpack or some other toy benchmark. Why you ask?

>I had borrowed an SGI Indigo from SGI Sweden and ported DYNA3D (a FEA 
>program) the the INDIGO. I was very surpriced that the Indigo runs
>twice as fast as the SS2 on real problems. Both machines had 32Mb
>memory.

I've said it at least 200 times, but it needs saying again:
*nobody* who helped create the SPEC benchmarks thought that you should
ever use the single number in isolation.  That's why we always said you
should look at all 10 benchmarks.  For 2 machines that have approximately
the same SPECmark, there can easily be factors of 2X or more in the
relative performance of any given benchmark. In this particular case,
I'm a little surprised, but not very much surprised.
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From: azuelos@nuri.inria.fr (Daniel  AZUELOS)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Andrew File System Benchmark ( where & what ? )
Keywords: file system, distributed file system, benchmark, measure, performance, ...
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:37:30 GMT
Organization: INRIA * Rocquencourt BP 105 * F-78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX* France

I'd like to get some more information about:

o	what is exactly the Andrew File System benchmark, that has been used
	in a lot of performance measures of distributed file systems,

o	where to get an up to date version( hostname/pathname).

Any other comment about this benchmark would be appreciated.

Thanks to reply preferably by E-mail.

                                Daniel  :-)
                                azuelos@polytechnique.fr
From: Joshua.Lee@f542.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joshua Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Police and modem users
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:41:36 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/542 - Confuscious Max, Temple Hills MD

In a message of <Apr 07 05:29> Jerry Andrews (jandrews@public.BTR.COM ) writes:


BH> members of PoliceNet, or to be setting up scams like that "bbs" scam a
BH> few months ago.

 JAj> I tried tracking this down.  "bbs" scam?

The police regularly set up BBSs to track illegal activity. Also several
law enforcement, other agencies in the government, and telecom security
run networked BBSs or monitor BBS networks. As long as it keeps criminals
off the networks and systems (the equivalent of "cops on the beat"), it's
OK. It's when they bring out press releases like the ones posted here 
that make it seem like BBSs as a whole are hotbeds of criminal activity 
and vice that it becomes a serious problem.

(Hey, you aren't the same Jerry Andrews out Mountain View, CA who's
also running a FidoNet BBS in DC, are you? B-) )

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From: billy@anasaz (Bill Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,rec.photo,misc.legal,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Illegal photograph postings (was: Your police at work for y
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:12:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: anasaz.1992Apr10.031230.28634
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <1992Apr6.233130.14182@msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
->In article <1992Apr06.074126.14018@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
->>It would be extremely difficult to shut down USENET directly.
->>
->>It would be easy to emaciate it with just a few threats, however.
->>You attack not the links, not the network, but the individual big
=>>companies on it.
->
->If I were the feds and I wanted to shut down USENET, I'd take a big
->batch of Federal agents, break into UUNET or PSI headquarters, and bust
->up everything I could find.  Then get a judge to make it stick.
->(Charge you with something, you'd need to figure out what.)
->
Why not just sieze any poster's terminal and/or computer?  They just come to
your house or office and carry it away.  No fuss, no muss, no trial.  That's
already legal, right?

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From: riddle@is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle)
Subject: Academic programs in "computers, freedom and privacy"?
Summary: Re: EFFector Online 2.07
Organization: Ministry of Information, William's Marsh
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:37:48 GMT

I just read Steve Cisler's fascinating account of the Computers,
Freedom and Privacy Conference II in the Effector Online.

It made me wonder: are there any academic degree programs concentrating
on the political, social, ethical and economic issues surrounding the
emerging technologies we're concerned with here?  I don't know what
acdemic department such a program would fall under -- perhaps political
science, communications, philosophy, law or even (what a thought!)
computer science?

Please reply by mail or to comp.org.eff.talk, as you please.  Thanks.

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu
-- Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Singapore
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:38:16 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr12.044549.120531@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk> zcakilh@ucl.ac.uk (Miss Chee Mei Yeoh) writes:
> (Kurt Cockrum) kurt@grogatch.celestial.com writes:
>  
> > [Singapore's installation of a nation-wide fiber optic network]
> > probably had something to do with aiding the Public Rectitude Cadre
> > in [its] ceaseless effort to root out the few remaining Recalcitrant
> > Chewing Gum Devil Addicts shamelessly indulging their habits in their
> > own [homes]. :-( It sure as hell ain't to get the citizens on Usenet/
> > Internet.
>  
> How bad can Singapore be if its citizens can read comp.org.eff.talk? ;-)
> As Kurt no doubt knows, it is not illegal to chew gum in Singapore.
> I don't doubt that the prospects of Singapore's government carrying
> alt.tasteless on a public network are nil :-) but to raise the spectre
> of Big Brother is (way) off the mark. There is a great deal of useful
> information that can be carried over a public network - a quality
> newspaper, educational materials, library catalogues, stock market
> information - to name but a few.

I have no problem with the above, the next bit causes me some difficulty.

> Should the relative anarchy of something 
> such as usenet be carried? Well, I'd like that but I believe every
> sensible person can see the formidable arguments against such a
> course.

"sensible" people? "formidable" arguments? Who gets to decide what is sensible
and why are the - unmentioned - arguments so formidable. Frankly I don't trust
anyone but me to decide what is "sensible" on my behalf. I'm surprised you
would think that the appropriate way to run things. If, by objecting, If by
objecting to your assertion, I am now defined as non-"sensible", then I have
proved my point. Your statement defines people who disagree with you as not
sensible. Is this what you *REALLY* mean? If not, what propted you to say it?
 
You begin to see how easy it would be to censor and gag ideas you consider to
be non-sensible if you controlled a network.

Have another think, Nigel. Don't give up your freedom so easily. 

>  
> Nigel Yeoh, Kings College London quando@well.sf.ca.us
>                                  zdtl123@oak.cc.kcl.ac.uk
>  

Steve Withers
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