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From: jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: Realistic DX-440 Short Wave for Sale
Date: 9 Nov 1992 01:28:07 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.ecst.csuchico.edu

This is a digital-tuning shortwave receiver which is just like the
Sangean 803 model less the recording connector on the side.  It receives
from 150 KHz to 29999 KHz.  Will receive AM, SSB, and stereo FM (in the
FM broadcast band, of course :-)

Excellent condition.  Only a little dust from me not using it!

asking ==> $125 <==

Will also consider offers...

Please reply via email

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
From: joelp@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joel.peshkin)
Subject: Wanted Commercial UHF radio
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:48:25 GMT


Wanted: Commercial (Type-Accepted) UHF HT

Must Have:
      Reasonable programmability (by dealer, by PC, or by diode)
      4 Watts
      Multichennel
      Differrent PL per channel.
      Low price 
      Legal ownership :-)

Respond to jdp@aloft.att.com
From: snh1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Sanjay Hiranandani - N2MRZ)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:53:55 GMT

lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
>It was interesting to read that the following people were hams:
...
>Can anybody add to the list?

Well, if you're including deceased people too, the former Prime
Minister of India, Rajiv Gandhi was a ham (VU2RG), and his wife
Sonia Gandhi (VU2SON) is a ham.

-Sanjay Hiranandani  N2MRZ

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:31:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.084029.1761@lub001.lamar.edu>  
lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
> It was interesting to read that the following people were hams:
> 
> Andy Griffith - (WA7WYN) ACTOR
> Walter Cronkite - (KB2GSD) Former CBS News Anchor
> Priscilla Presley - (N6YOS) Actress
> Garry Shandling - (KD6OY) Comedian
> Chet Atkins - (WA4CZD) Country Music Star
> Ronnie Milsap - (WB4KCG) Country Music Star
> Barry Goldwater - (K7UGA) former U.S. Senator
> Joe Walsh - (WB6ACU) Rock Star
> 
> Can anybody add to the list?

A quick check of the callbook server shows no reference for WA7WYN. Also,
N6YOS is one Lou Lou Beaulieu (honest...look it up). The others are
all there, tho.

Mark - (KG7JL) Software Weenie
From: cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Invective Licensing
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:15:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I have avoided comment on the question of the higher speed code requirements,
not because I have no opinion, but because I am one of the licensees that
would benefit from the proposed changes reported some weeks ago.  I am going
to attempt to summarize the facts as I see them.  Please don't flame me over
much, I burn easy :)

1.   There will always be a 5 WPM Code test requirement.  Required by treaty,
     and no big deal.  I passed it, almost anyone should be able to.

2.   Having demonstrated a level of skill with Morse code, there should not be
     any need for me to demonstrate a higher level of skill, unless I intend
     to use CW, in which case the skill improvements are said to be automatic
     and inevitable.

3.   The "work" performed by an individual to achieve a specific class of
     license at a time in the past was as specified by the requirements at
     that time.  If the requirements are changed, that does not affect the
     respect earned by the individual.  However, if I then comply with the
     new requirements, that doesn't lessen the validity of my license.

In summary (I *DO* go on...), I've passed element 1A, 2, and 3.  That made
me a Technician back then.  The XYL has passed element 2, and 3A.  That makes
her a Technician now.  Different timing, same license.

Obviously, I support the proposed changes, if only from enlightened self-
interest.

73
____________________________-:!:-____________________________________
Alan V. Cook                    Internet: AVCOOK@ananov.remnet.ab.com
Rockwell International        Ham Packet: N7CEU @ WF6O
(714) 762-0843                       DoD: #0701
              Alternate Internet: Cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com


From: greg@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Greg Dolkas)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 00:27:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Alinco DJ-580T - comments anyone?
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc


> Is there anyone who owns one of these and would care to comment
> about your experiences, etc.?  It was about a hundred bucks cheaper
> than the competition and I wonder what I'm missing.

It's a great radio.  The only thing "missing" is a lighter wallet.

Greg  KD6KGW
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSLs for V29Y and 4J1FS - please help
Date: 4 Nov 92 16:51:40 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1992Nov3.133926.20134@wam.umd.edu> ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard
Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>During the CQWW contest I worked V29Y on Antigua.  Any QSL information?
>
>About a year ago, I worked 4J1FS (M-V Island) but didn't get a QSL address.
>
>CAN ANYONE HELP?  Thanks in advance,  Scott NF3I

I'll post V29Y on Friday .. need to look it up at home.  4J1FS from
the May 92 expedition and the 2 (i think) is 91 is via OH2BU. 
73, Tom WB4IUX

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From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:30:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Nov6.233056.18072
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov06.173249.15149@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>
>I don't doubt it.  Kind of keeps the little club nice and elite.
>"We can't do differential equations that explain the transient
>response of analog circuits but we sure do know our dots and
>dashes!  Aren't we special!"
>
>>So once again
>>the perfect world is CB radio. No stupid tests, no stupid code. 
>
>If you read my original post again, you would find that I was in
>favor of MORE testing related to late 20th century technology
>at the expense of good old F.B. Morse!

Sorry, about that. Morse is more a part of ham radio then late 20
century at the moment. 

>>Sheesh, time to go do some CW on 20 meters...
>
>Ah yes.  Better to exercise that little finger than that decaying brain! 

Now, now. Save the comments for when we meet face to face some time.
I run a technical net, do CW, do SSB, want to do RTTY, and every single
digital mode, was president of 2 computer clubs, run a bbs etc, etc...
So the brain happens to be working just fine,  at least most of the time.
Just happen to have the good sense and good manners not to insult someone 
when I am trying to make my point. Let's stay on subject and leave the
nasty comments to alt.flame. Making comments like that are fine for 
CB but this ham radio. Perhaps you just made a good case for keeping
CW by your comment? 73! 

Jeff


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: VE's
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:19:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Nov9.153159.886@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu> clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:

>In article <1992Nov4.174125.11880@news.columbia.edu>, baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce A Weisberg) writes:
>> 	Could anybody help me find a place to take ham exams (gen. class)
>> in the greater NYC area? I have wheels, can travel. Help!
>> 	
>> 	tnx
>> 	Bruce 
>> 	KA2TYX


Call Barry Electronics.  They can give you upcoming dates and places.
Also, why not call up the ARRL?  They can give you dates and places.


Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:39:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <sav.720451393@nanette>, sav@nanette.sni.de (Dr.Savory) writes:
|> I pilot an airplane. The VHF and LW radio navigation aids identify
|> themselves by MORSING their names. So to make sure I tuned into the
|> correct Navaid I need to know Morse code IT COULD SAVE MY LIFE!!!
|> 

And the callsigns sent seldom have anything to do with where they are, so
you need the maps to use them anyway.  And of course, you did know that the
dots and dashes are actually printed on the maps which is why Morse Code is
not a requirement for a pilots license.

Isn't amazing how none of the arguments for REQUIRING Morse Code hold
water??
I wonder if the time will ever come when Morse advocates will admit it
is strictly a religous concept and has no basis in technology.

bill    KB3YV

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From: kchen@Apple.COM (Kok Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: [FWD] Famous Peolple and Hams
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:10:57 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:

>jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:

>>>>It was interesting to read that the following people were hams:
>>>>
>>>>Andy Griffith - (WA7WYN) ACTOR
>>>>Walter Cronkite - (KB2GSD) Former CBS News Anchor
>>>>Priscilla Presley - (N6YOS) Actress
>>>>Garry Shandling - (KD6OY) Comedian
>>>>Chet Atkins - (WA4CZD) Country Music Star
>>>>Ronnie Milsap - (WB4KCG) Country Music Star
>>>>Barry Goldwater - (K7UGA) former U.S. Senator
>>>>Joe Walsh - (WB6ACU) Rock Star
>>>>
>>>>Can anybody add to the list?
>>>
>>>General LeMay who had a W6 call, "father of SAC", etc
>>>(also past on about 9 months ago).
>>>How bout Arthur Godfrey, Television Star
>>>and Art Collins, founder of Collins Radio.

>Don't forget Dr. Clifford Stoll, K7TA


The King of Thailand is also a Ham (donno call), and so is some 
royalty of the Netherlands, no?  Hussein's wife (American) is JY2.

Tandem's CEO Treybig is a Ham and Apple's CEO Sculley was a Ham when
younger.

For you EEs, Radio Astronomers and Helix nuts, don't forget that 
John D. Kraus is a Ham (W8JK).  

For you mathematicians, Paul J. Cohen (Fields Medalist who cracked
one of Hilbert's problems) is a Ham.

73,

Kok Chen, AA6TY				kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Mail Order places for radios/shortwaves?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:20:22 GMT

Ok... thanks for the respones conerning FM/AM/shortwave radios!  Now
where can I get some of these things mailorder?  Its mostly a matter
of availability.  Not a lot of places in my area that carry a wide
selection of shortwave/FM/AM radios.  Lots of boom-boxes :-(.

- Hacker
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From: pazar@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Steve Pazar)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:26:58 GMT
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Need TIL-308 readout for FT-301D
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

Bruce,
  Can't help you find a display, but PLEASE post the mods you will be
  making to your '301. I've got one that hasen't had enough use to fry
  the displays (yet). Thanks!!!

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*  STEVE PAZAR           DoD #702           Kawasaki KZ440A
*  E-mail:   pazar@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
*  Ether:    WA4DUT/6
*  " Imagination is more important than knowledge "
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From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:54:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Nov9.185435.16943
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

brewer@anarky "brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com" writes:

>	buying warm bodies.  What's sadder, is that 
>	the personal satisfaction of learning, studying
>	and obtaining a license will be lost as we edge
>	more toward giveaway licenses with appliance 
>	radios.
>

Nice distortion of the facts.  The proponents of change aren't suggesting
making licensing easier or "giveaway".  If you code bigots would unplug
your CW filters for a second and listen to the arguments, you might hear
something.  You know, communication?

It also amazes me that John has the ability to predict what is
"satisfaction" for all hams.  I wasn't aware that CW proficiency was the
*only* way to acheive satisfaction.  I guess the satisfaction I get from
working unusual modes of propogation must be imagined.

By the way, here is a little numerical summary of the opinions expressed
so far as to lowering the CW speed requirements:

For Change		Against Change		For and Against?

A	16			1			0
E       2			8			3
G	0			1			0
N	0			0			0
T	23			0			0
?	4			0			0

Total	45			10			3
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:51:03 GMT

In <1992Nov10.170206.17719@cbfsb.cb.att.com> feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:

>You have an MSEE.  Are we supposed to genuflect?

I'd suggest something else, but not on the net!

>This should relieve you of passing a code test so you can
>operate below 30MHz?  Why don't you tell that to the FCC?

>Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com

You just don't understand the question originally posted do you?

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mark@lenti.med.umn.edu (Mark Olson (CDC))
Subject: PASSED THE TEST!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:41:29 GMT



   Last night I finally bit the bullet and went to an exam session.  I had 
studied the Novice and Tech written exam material and had listened to a 14wpm
code practice tape.  SO,  I figured I had nothing to lose by trying the 20wpm
test - so I took it and PASSED it!  (hard to believe...) anyway, 
I was able to pass the Novice and Tech exams but missed the General by
one... oh well. Now I suppose I have to try to pass the General, Advanced
and Extra or the code test will go away (do I have a year to do this?)
  
   I don't have a call now, is this going to be a problem if I take more
tests before the call arrives?
  
  Anyway, thanks to all on the net who inspired me to get involved;
I'm going to enjoy this hobby!
  
mark olson
mark@lenti.med.umn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: awinterb@diana.cair.du.edu (Art Winterbauer)
Subject: Re: What exactly is Q?
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:26:31 GMT

I believe it is a character in Star Trek: The Next Generation.  He
is from the Q continuum.  He's slightly non-resonant.

73 de Art, N0OQS
.

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From: enge@almaden.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 08:06:52 PST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RACES Bulletin #246
News-Software: UReply 3.0

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From: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTX-100 and PK-232 for AMTOR
Date: 7 Nov 1992 10:37:55 -0600
Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/693-8262, 9600-300
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hey....
        
        Ewwww.....I've never heard AMTOR on 10 meters before....must be my
antenna, eh? (ha-ha)
        I have an HTX-100.....(btw, the first thing that blew was the audio
chip....Bummer...)  I've tried doing HF *packet* with it before, with
little success I might add.....but I've not tried 10 meter AMTOR......where
are you finding such AMTOR, eh?  ...curious......;-)
        
        There is a book out with some mods for the HTX-100, but I've never
checked on them, and am not sure whether there are such mods to speed up
the processor or whatever.....
        
        Later...73!
        
        
        T.M.K.
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From: markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:07:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Paul Flaherty (paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu) wrote:
: You know, if you spent half the time you've wasted in flamebaiting on actually
: trying to learn Morse Code, you'd probably be past the 5 WPM exam.
: 
: It really isn't that hard.  Really.

But 5 WPM morse only gets you the HF priviledges of running morse.

Anything useful requires 13 WPM, and that just isn't worth the
time.  Useful being defined as the priviledge to run some
digital mode besides morse.

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com  N7RCX
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: "Digital" instead of "Morse" requirement?
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:44:46 GMT

Ya know, I really don't understand this fixation on 'digital' modes. Maybe  
it's because most of the people on the net are computer weenies. What is  
so holy about digital modes? How many of the 500,000+ hams out there use  
the digital modes and how many of them know any more about them than how  
to connect their KAM or PK232 to their radio? I mess with packet and RTTY  
and find them enjoyable but no more or less so than SSB or (gasp) CW. High  
speed digital would be interesting but probably less than 0.1% of the hams  
in the country ever get above 1200 bps. I just don't understand why  
'digital' modes are put on a pedestal.

As for the proposal to substitute a test on digital modes for Morse code,  
what would it cover? What would it prove? There are already questions on  
the exams that address that area.

Don't construe this to be advocating CW or anything else, I personally  
don't care one way or the other about whether CW should or should not be a  
requirement for a license so don't flame me about it.

Just my $0.02 worth...

73...     Mark   KG7JL
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:10:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <Nov06.151912.69326@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts) writes:
>	Morse code is a requirement for using frequencies below 30MHz by
>	international treaty.  I do agree with virtually all of Kevin's 
>	statements.  I lucked out and passed the 13 wpm test so I have my
>	advanced instead of my "tech+".
>
>	Think about a person who just crashed a plane somewhere and all
>	they can do is turn their transmitter on and off, the audio doesn't
>	work because the mic was smashed in the wreck.  Morse code could
>	save some lives in this scenario, especially if the quirky ELT
>	doesn't turn on.

The wrecked plane isn't likely to be transmitting on ham frequencies, nor
is it likely that the pilot would be keying the mike at 13wpm.  Therefore,
what is the justification in this scenmario for 13wpm vs the international
requirment of being able to send and receive code at some nominally accepted
speed such as 5 wpm?

If the safety of ships at sea is not threatened by no longer requiring
shipboard radio operators to know code, why is it of such importance only
to hams?

>	I have not used morse code since my 13 wpm test, but I am glad I
>	know it.  It helps ID repeaters, among other things.

Again, that can be done easily at 5wpm AND at some point in time, unless
you do use the code, you'll regress from the ability to read 13wpm anyway.

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