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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: One-Cell Tables for Figures
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:07:08 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan27.004343.6244@PacBell.COM> r4jmcco@srv.PacBell.COM (Robert  
McCormick) writes:
> 
> HOWEVER, I have to delete the cross-reference
> marker on the figure title, if one exists. Otherwise, you get duplicated
> markers, which cause big x-ref problems.


One of my top feature requests for FrameMaker is a dialog box that pops up when you  
are about to paste text that contains x-refs. It would ask you if you want to paste  
the x-refs along with the rest of the text, or would prefer to have them deleted  
from the pasted text. This would allow you to copy paragraphs or pages without that  
cold sense of dread :>)

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, talk to your Frame reps.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jbigg@Ingres.COM (John Bigg)
Subject: PC Ventura -> Frame filter
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:16:32 GMT


Has anyone got a filter to allow PC ventura files to be read into Frame and then
editted in a sensible fashion. Or has anyone had any experience of this. I have
looked in the current framemaker filters list.

Thanks,

John

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From: jts@mri.com (Jeff Shimbo)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Copied bitmaps disappears
Summary: save files before closing
Keywords: bitmaps
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:12:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: mri.1993Jan27.001256.16159
Organization: MRI

>I reported this to Frame Tech Support (case #68442), and although
>they seem concerned, I don't imagine they've had much luck
>replicating the problem -- it really happens randomly.

I was also annoyed by bitmaps "randomly" disppearing.  The problem
occurred most frequently when I used to close documents with the
"exit window" function in my window manager.

I have reduced the frequency of this occurance (from about once a
week to once a month or less) by always saving the document (e.g.,
^X^S or File->Save) before closing it.  I have no idea why this works.

Oh yes, Frame 3.1X on SPARCstation.

Jeff Shimbo
jts@mri.com
From: cdoyle@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Candace Doyle)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:38:42 GMT
Subject: Can't Rotate Text Line
Organization: Precision Risc Organization
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

OK, I give up... now it's up to you Frame wizards to solve:

The Problem:

    I have been unsuccessful in attempting  rotate a text line
    (created with the Text Line tool) to obtain text that is slanted.
    I want to place the slanted text on the side of a stacked box
    that I copied from the Clip Art.

What I've tried:

    The 'rotate' on the tools window works as it should, but the
    rotation is too much. I've tried the Ctrl-rgi to rotate it with
    the mouse but it has no effect on the text line but works for
    other objects. I've tried the Ctrl-rgx to specify the rotation
    angle by degress - this also has no effect, but works for other
    objects. I also tried changing the alignment point but that still
    did not help.

    Any ideas?
From: tecslm1@sdc.boeing.com (Shamus McBride)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,esp.general
Subject: Broken Cut and Paste keys
Keywords: OpenWindows X11 xmodmap
Date: 20 Jan 93 18:20:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Distribution: boeing
Organization: Boeing Computer Services (ESP), Seattle, WA

I ran into the following problem when running FrameMaker and wanted to
alert others.

I found that the Sun "Cut" and "Paste" keys were not working with
FrameMaker. After alot of investigation I found some Usenet articles
describing a known bug with FrameMaker and OpenWindows:

|       PROBLEM:   The following keys  don't  work  with  olwm:    L3
|       (Props), L6 (Copy), L8 (Paste), L9 (Find), and L10 (Cut).  In
|       olwm, these keys are modifiers.
|
|       SOLUTION:   You can change the meaning of the keys so they'll
|       work with FrameMaker; however, the keys won't work as modifi-
|       ers for other applications.

Now, I don't run olwm, but it turns out that some (if not all) of the
OpenWindows clients (Calendar Manager, Gaintool, etc) will change
(screw up) the meaning of the Lx  keys.

If your Lx keys don't seem to be working with FrameMaker do a

    xmodmap -pm 

If you see any of the Lx keys or function keys F11 through F20 being
used as a modifer you'll have to clear the modifier state for the keys.

For example, in the following output from xmodmap, F13 (Props), 
F18 (Paste), and F20 (Cut) have been made modifers (mod3). 

	|xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
	|
	|shift       Shift_L (0x6a),  Shift_R (0x75)
	|lock      
	|control     Control_L (0x53)
	|mod1        Meta_L (0x7f),  Meta_R (0x81)
	|mod2        Num_Lock (0x69)
	|mod3        F13 (0x20),  F18 (0x50),  F20 (0x68)
	|mod4      
	|mod5      

    xmodmap -e 'clear mod3' 

will restore the keys for use by FrameMaker. 

    xmodmap -e 'add mod3 = F13 F18 F20' 

will return the keys to the OpenWindows use.

I don't know which "mod?" modifer you might find keys bound to. On my 
workstation it was mod3, in Usenet articles I've seen references to
mod2 and mod5. I don't know if its the same session to session.

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(206) 865-5047            | uw-beaver!bcsaic!sdc!tecslm1
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:40:59 -0500 
From: Prakash.Padmanabhan@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: framemaker to msword/macwrite

 I want to read a framemaker document created on a SUN into MSWORD on a
macintosh.  Is there a way to do this?

My actual problem is Framemaker on my Sun doesn't have GD&T font and I
need to use this font in some of my figures.  Any help would be much
appreciated.

Prakash
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: Hyper text markers
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:18:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.112523@axion.bt.co.uk> mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike Frampton) writes:

>Ill explain the situation, Im trying to edit a hypertext framemaker document that has a number of graphic "buttons". I want to place a marker on the button so that when it is pressed control moves somewhere else.
>
>Ive unlocked the document,
>
>called the tools menu and tried putting both a frame and a text column over the graphic. Then I try to place a new hypertext marker in the text area. 
>
>My problem is one that each of these methods obscure the graphic and that maker menu will not let me add a new marker to that area.

Open the Graphics Tool Box.  Select the frame containing your hypertag as a
graphics object, then from Fill, choose none.

The text frame must be on top, in order to be selectable.

steve
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From: mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Hyper text markers
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:25:23 GMT
Reply-To: mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike Frampton)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Hi

Im having a problem with Hypertext markers when using FrameMaker Version 
3.0X. 

Ill explain the situation, Im trying to edit a hypertext framemaker document that has a number of graphic "buttons". I want to place a marker on the button so that when it is pressed control moves somewhere else.

Ive unlocked the document,

called the tools menu and tried putting both a frame and a text column over the graphic. Then I try to place a new hypertext marker in the text area. 

My problem is one that each of these methods obscure the graphic and that maker menu will not let me add a new marker to that area.

Sorry if this enquiry is simply solved but Im a novice to frame.

with thanks 

mjf 
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: eleleetk@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Subject: TeX or LaTeX filter for Frame
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:37:22 GMT

Hi Framers, I am looking for the above filters to suit my working
habit. Occasionally, I have to go to some other departments where
there are no installation of Framemaker. TeX and LaTeX do seem to
be quite popular in most of the places. So I would like to be able
to edit my files using just a plain text editor and still be able
to produce publishable quality prints. It would be nice if there
were two way conversions, but I would be happy to settle for just
TeX-to-Frame filter. Any clue?

Regards,
Kiat

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Internet: eleleetk@nuscc.nus.sg      Microelectronics Div.
Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet      Dept. of Electrical Engineering
                                     National University of Singapore
Voice:    (065)-772-6319             10 Kent Ridge Crescent
          (065)-467-1518             Singapore 0511
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: HELP! Destroyed Frame-File!
Reply-To: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:37:50 GMT


Hi,

I m using FrameMaker3 on a NeXT and got a problem!
I got a file on an OpticlDisk and no backup, the file is damaged (I/O error)  
and I m searching for a way to restore it, even partly.

Can anybody help me? Urgent!

Thanks in advance.

Borris
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Tel +49-69-639266 - Fax +49-69-6312324 - e-mail borris@boba.rhein-main.de
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: fkuhl@posthorn.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Subject: Re: HELP: How to generate BIG&little capital letters
Reply-To: fkuhl@posthorn.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:05:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.155016.2192@informix.com>, robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
|> In article <7OGZrAkDBh107h@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US> ka6etb@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US  
|> (KA6ETB Steve Harding) writes:
|> > In <ubi.727983427@updike> ubi@updike..sri.com (Ron Ueberschaer) writes:
|> > >I'd like to define a character style that uses large capital
|> > >letters in place of uppercase, and smaller capital letters
|> > >in place of lowercase.  The font and capitalization options
|> > >don't seem to be able to do this.  Is there any way to add
|> > >that capability to FrameMaker?
|> > 
|> > Unless someone knows some magic of which I am unaware, I am afraid you
|> > are out of luck.
|> > 
|> > What you are describing is actually a typeface.  The larger characters are
|> > the uppercase; the smaller characters are the lower case.  I haven't seen
|> > any like since hot lead (I'm dating myself).
|> > 
|> > But then, Rob Weinberg will most likely prove me wrong (as usual).
|> 
|> I don't know if I'll manage to do that today, Steve 
|> 
|> However, the poster might check with Adobe - get their font catalog; they just  

Dunno what these were called in the days of hot lead, but small caps are available
as part of 'expert' sets for digital fonts.  If you want small caps with Times
Roman, you're pretty much out of luck.  You'll need to buy a Type 1 font and its
matching expert set.  Not all fonts have expert sets, but Adobe sells several, at
their usual excruciating prices, among them several Garamonds, Adobe Caslon, Minion,
Sabon, etc.  Monotype also sells several faces with expert sets, including
Centaur and Columbus.  You'd need to install these in Frame.  You'd also need to
switch to the expert font when you wanted the small caps.  I don't think Frame
would make that convenient.  And they often don't look pretty at 300 dpi.
-- 
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Center for Advanced Aviation System Development
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Virginia
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: r4jmcco@srv.PacBell.COM (Robert McCormick)
Subject: One-Cell Tables for Figures
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:43:43 GMT

 have used this quite a bit, and I think it is a good way to work.

The biggest hassel is that you need a table with a wide cell, with
an anchored frame of the right width.  I usually solve the tedious
setup problem by copying an existing table/figure, deleting the graphics,
and continuing from there. HOWEVER, I have to delete the cross-reference
marker on the figure title, if one exists. Otherwise, you get duplicated
markers, which cause big x-ref problems.

The method described by the original poster (numbering figures by placing
text col in frame) will work, but there is a trick.
The problem is that to get the text in the text col to autonumber,
it should be the first text col in the frame.   You can set this by selecting
the text col and performing Graphics Back.  HOWEVER, if you duplicate the frame
via copy-and-paste, after you established a cross-reference, you get a
duplicate x-ref marker, which MUST be deleted or your x-refs will be messed up.

-- 
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Bob McCormick
Currently: r4jmcco@srv.pacbell.com  +1 510 823-4899
Normally: bobmcc@tcs.com  +1 510 649-3881
From: clarke@mahakala.wpd.sgi.com (David Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Superscripting characters
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:49:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahakala.wpd.sgi.com

Does anyone know if it's possible to change the  baseline offset
for a superscripted character.  What I want to do is create a tm
or rtm that's smaller than the size I normally get when I apply
Superscript to a character.  I've already tried to knock down the
point size in the Character Format menu, but this also knocks down
the baseline offset of the superscripted character to some percentage 
of the smaller point size I just applied, so my tm/rtm ends up about 
even with the x-height and not the ascenders. 

-----------------
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SGI Publications Production
clarke@wpd.sgi.com
(415)390-5137
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: HELP: FM3.0.1 problems (running on NeXTSTEP 3.0)
Reply-To: brian@coconut.com
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA, U.S.A.
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:40:04 PST
Keywords: framemaker nextstep bugs questions help


Two questions regarding FrameMaker 3.0.1 on a NeXTstation
mono, 040 25mHz, running NS3.0:
 
1)  I'm confused -- is this a bug, or just something I'm not
doing right?  I created a document with several paragraph tags,
saved it, printed it, exited, and shut the machine down.  The
next day I started up the machine, went into FrameMaker, opened
the document, and found that when I placed the cursor in any
one of my paragraphs it showed the same paragraph tag name in the
status bar.  Furthermore, while some of the paragraphs look OK 
(i.e. as if they have their correct paragraph tag attributes), 
others show some (but not all) of the attributes of the (now) 
global paragraph tag -- as if some attributes have been "dumped"
or "lost".   What's going on!?!?  
 
2)  I have tried to turn hyphenation off both at the
Format:Paragraph:Basic Properties menu level and at the
Format:Paragraph:Advanced Properties menu level.  
It keeps reverting back to "active" even when I apply 
to "Catalog," "Paragraph's Tagged," and "Current."
 
Any suggestions/solutions would be greatly appreciated! 
 
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Brian Dear ///// Coconut Computing, Inc. ///// brian@coconut.com
From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Czech language in Frame
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:58:21 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1993Jan13.200931.7369@schbbs.mot.com>, Q20006@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Keith Downer) writes:
|> From: Q20006@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Keith Downer)
|> Subject: Czech language in Frame
|> 
|> I am currently trying to get Frame to display/print Czech characters
|> Many of the characters are already supported in Framemaker and can
|> be found in the standard character set or can be created by using a macro
|> that will overlay an accent over a letter - no problem.  My problem is
|> that one accent, hatchek (phonetic spelling!), is not in the standard
|> character set and so I cannot do the above trick.  The hatchek accent
|> is an inverted circumflex and is widely used.  I tried using the
|> 'logicalor' character but this was unsatisfactory.
|> 
|> The best solution would be to have a Czech character set.  The ref.
|> manual implies that I may be able to obtain additional fonts from Adobe
|> or another source.  Are there any on the 'net?
|> 
|> Has anybody out there come up against the same problem - maybe with a
|> another language?  I would welcome any advice, ideas or useful contacts
|> and will share any solution with the world.  As I think this question
|> will arise again in the future it is worth getting a solution broadcast.
|> 
|> BTW I'm using Framemaker 3.1 on a Motorola Unix Platform.
|> 

I asked our specialist dok_mki&pki-nbg.philips.de, he editet the
helvetica and times fonts. His answer:

Hi,
the only answer I can give, is to use several font-editors like URW's Ikarus or
ALTSYS's Fontographer on a Mac to create MacIntosh-screenfont, Type-1-font 
for PostScript-Printer and afm-FontFile (Adobe-FontMetrics). These tools are 
able to place  and turn any accent at any key-location with Helvetica, Times 
e.g., but don't forget fonts have copyright. Next step is to put these Fonts 
(screen, Type1and afm) onto your Unix-System. The last step is, using hints of 
Frame's "Adding PostScript Fonts to FrameMaker"-Manual. (This procedure only 
generates PrinterFonts and fixed Screenfont-Sizes, but no F3-fonts!).

greetings,
manfred
From: ubi@updike.sri.com (Ron Ueberschaer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: CLARIFICATION: BIG&little capital letters
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:37:44 GMT
Distribution: na

robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
>(KA6ETB Steve Harding) writes:
>> ubi@updike.sri.com (Ron Ueberschaer) writes:
>>> I'd like to define a character style that uses large capital
>>> letters in place of uppercase, and smaller capital letters
>>> in place of lowercase.  The font and capitalization options
>>> don't seem to be able to do this.  Is there any way to add
>>> that capability to FrameMaker?
>>  Unless someone knows some magic of which I am unaware, I am 
>>  afraid you are out of luck. 
>> 
>> [special typeface discussion deleted]
>> 
>> But then, Rob Weinberg will most likely prove me wrong (as usual).
>I don't know if I'll manage to do that today, Steve :>)
>
> [suggestions to pay Adobe for solution deleted]

As the originator of this thread, I'd like to clarify my query.
I *want* to do this the wrong way!  If a paragraph is using, say,
a 12-point font, I'd like to define a character tag called AllCaps
that changes lowercase letters to 10-point uppercase and leaves the
uppercase letters at 12-point.  I'd like it to be general enough
to work with whatever the default paragraph font, size, etc., are.

As an alternative, a new item could be added to the Capitalization
dialog box.  Either way, it seems like pretty advanced FrameMaker
customization.  I *know* that it would look better to have a special
typeface.

BTW, does anyone from Frame Technology Corp. read this newsgroup?

Thanks again,

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From: nfoskett@orion.adobe.com (Nicholas Foskett)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Auto Numbering Bug in Frame 3.1 on UNIX?
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:52:23 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <C1FH1A.Apw@hsi.com> hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht) writes:
>  I have found that the auto numbering of chapters is not always reliable.
>  What happens is that when a book is generated, some or all of the files (chapters) increase like they are supposed to and some do not.  So I might have
>  the following result:

>  	Chapter 1
>  	Chapter 2
>  	Chapter 2
>  	Chapter 3

>  Instead of Chapter 1
>  	   Chapter 2
>  	   Chapter 3
>  	   Chapter 4

I have experienced the same problem. I don't believe it's a bug
(rather it's a non-feature :-).

I have seen the problem occur when I have a book in which I have
selected double-sided pagination, and Chapters start on new pages.
What causes the problem is when you save a file which has an odd
number of pages in it, Frame automatically adds an extra page to make
the page count of that file even (that way the next chapter starts on
the right hand page). The new page does not get connected into the
flow, and thus the paragraph numbering in the next file restarts from
the previous file (hence you get chapter 1, 2, 2 (restarts from 1),
3) since that is the last place in the book with the same flow.

This problem can be avoided by editing your master pages. Make sure
they all have the same flow tag (it doesn't matter what it is -
usually it will default to "A") and make sure that Autoconnect is
enabled. You can do this for one file, and then use "Use Formats" from
the File menu in your book to transfer Page Layouts to all the other
files in the book. You may then need to use "Column Layout" from the Page
menu to get the new master page format applied to the pages in your
document.

Hope this helps,

nick