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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Metamora HS BOA RESULTS
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:33:35 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
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Results from Bands of America Grand Nationals Finals
Indianapolis Hoosier Dome   11/7/92

		Music Perf	Vis Perf	Music GE     Vis GE
		Ind     Ens	Ind     Ens     #1      #2      
55 Metamora HS	119	135	146	138	130	127	139	

subtotal = 66.50 
penalty of 0.3	
final score = 66.20

55th place overall
20th place in class AA
rating II

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From: cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: HOWDY!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:20:43 GMT
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>In article <1992Dec14.190115.21684@ncsu.edu> ajstorey@eos.ncsu.edu  
>(ALEXANDER JOHN STOREY) writes:
>
>Our snares could rip yours apart, though
>Captain - Made Cadets of BC Tenor Captain in rookie year (had quit dur to  
>financial reasons)
>2nd Snare - WAS Cadets Tenor Captain last year...
>Those are two of the most outrageous players I've ever seen...

   AAARGH! Not another corps geek! Take this kind of discussion to
 alt.marching.drumcorps!!!
 
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From: sloan@iastate.edu (Eric R Sloan)
Subject: Old H.S. Band Story...
Organization: ISUCF"V"MB
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:46:30 GMT

   Seeing all this flaming of bands here has got me thinking back to when
 in H.S. we were able to laugh at our rivals with a clear reason. Sure you 
can just say the playing sux or the marching sux, but what happened my
H.S. soph. yr. has to tale the cake.....

I was playing with Downers Grove South H.S. and naturaly our rival was Downers
North. The schools were of near equal size, but our marching band was larger..
.....about 150 vs. 75. 

The point of the story is one day we were marching a parade in town(Chamber of 
Commerce or somtin' like that) and we were out in near full force... getting
ready to play when we noticed the contingent from DGN pull up.... There was 
about 10 to 15 of them....This would have been funny enough, but(saw them 
pull-up is kind of a clue) The band was not even marching! they were riding 
on the back of a flatbed truck with thier legs dangling off the sides!!!!!

I swear half of our band had to have urine stains removed from our uniforms 
we were laughing so hard!

Just something to laugh at.... Gotta get the posts rolling in from ISU...
I've only seen my and one other guy...Come on ISUCF"V"MB..where are ya?

Eric Sloan
ISUCF"V"MB--Clarinet
Proud player of VINTAGE D.Noblet wood.....
And I think to myself.... What a woody-ful world!!!


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From: pjohnso@polaris.unm.edu (Zoe Paddy Johnson CIRT CSOS)
Subject: What is Winter Guard?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:26:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

As the mother of a fervant, new (hs freshman) Winter Guard daughter, I
am somewhat puzzled by what Winter Guard is.  My daughter is rapidly 
becoming a fanatic.  I haven't always understood her explanations as
to what it is she is doing, and now her grandfather (my dad) is really
on her case about her wasting her time when she could be doing something
productive like basketball or debate, so for the sake of family harmony,
What is Winter Guard?  What are the competitions like?  Who goes to the
competitions?  Is there a future in Guard (I gather that there might be
due to drumcorps, etc)?  Why is she a fanatic?  and due my houseplants
and cats have a future that does not include being regularly plunked with
her flag pole during impromptu practice sessions?

Zoe J
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From: anm6c@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Re: Quick band-ish question....
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:33:18 GMT

In response to the question about KKpsi I think that UK has
one.  Back me up here UK.  If I remember right they do because
I think I know someone in it (Anyone at UK say HI to Matt
LaBarbara).  
	Here at UVa that is one of the only fraternities we
don't have, however the pep-band is a fraternity in itself.
From: zaidioa@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Omar A. Zaidi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Mellophones
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:56:35 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: College/HS Marching Band Quickie Survey
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:05:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Dec13.213413.27866@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn) writes:

>Sounds good to me.  Here's what I propose we do.  People can either post
>to this newsgroup or send e-mail in response to either of the two surveys
>(e-mail seems to be more reliable, since we might miss a post or something).
>
>I will gather all posts and e-mail concerning my survey and Tim can gather
>all posts and e-mail for his survey.  I will post a summary at some point
>(in fact, I'll probably post the survey again after the Holiday break).
>
>Presumably, Tim will also post a summary of his results.
>Thanks!
>

Sounds good to me!

That's the plan folks.  Keep the surveys coming!

>-- Donald

--Tim


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From: bob@b30.ingr.com (Bob Baccus)
Subject: Re: Presidential Inauguration Parade
Summary: Carter's Parade - Secret Service - Guns
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:19:11 GMT

The Lee High School Band (Huntsville, AL) marched in Jimmy Carter's parade.
Lots of snow - cold - but a great time. Jimmy Carter had said that he didn't
want any guns, rifles, or anything like that in the parade. Also - no color
guards (except for the Army, Navy,...). A lot of rifle units marched without
their guns - a lot of color guards without their flags.

One funny story - George Wallace carries more power in Washington than Senators
or Reps. We were having our picture taken on the Capitol steps and when we 
pulled up with our buses - the guard said that we couldn't park there. We told
told him that our Senators would be there - Still no parking.
But - when we mentioned that Gov. Wallace would be there, we got to park in
a special lot right by the steps, and additonal guards were brought in for the
picture taking.

Bob

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From: jih@acpub.duke.edu (JOY HOGLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:16:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

>
>1.	How many people out there think that there has been a lot of 
>	USC Band bashing on this newsgroup so far?



I am rather surprised that Clemson hasn't come up - from what I hear,
USC plays TWO songs!  Clemson just has the Tiger rag, after every
play...

BTW, I would like to warn all of you band types - If you find out that
you are going to Tokyo to play in the Coca-Cola bowl, don't get excited.
You will see lots of airplane, and basically no Japan. You get all the
free Coke, "Coke Light", and beer that you want, but they only feed you
enough to keep you alive.

I'm in DUMB (Duke U. "marching" band) and I guess I'll answer some of
the threads running around here - 

I haven't heard of most of the songs that someone listed as being
overplayed. We do play Wipeout far too much, but that's because the
Cheerleaders do a slightly suggestive dance to it, and the men in the
crowd seem to really enjoy it.

We use Flip-Folios. It sucks, but it's better than actually practicing.

We don't march - we don't scatter - we don't glide-step...   I guess the
best description of what we do is "mosey" from one formation to another.

We don't particularly care how we look, because the only people watching
are our parents, and whatever parents of the football players haven't
left to get something to eat. Our favorite football cheer is:

"They scored AGAIN?!?!  Just wait till basketball season!!"


If there are any former members of the Seattle ACB out there, please
send me e-mail!

Joy Hogley
jih@acpub.duke.edu
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From: jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger)
Subject: Bands in Europe
Organization: Yale University, Intelligent Sensors Lab, Elect. Eng.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:47:41 GMT

Does this group propagate to Europe?  If so, could someone
enlighten us about marching bands and related activities over
there?

The Yale Bands went to London for a parade last January, and
while we were in the staging area, we saw a band from
Czechoslovakia.  The had rotary brass and had amazing tone.  It
was very dark and not at all blaring.  No American band I have
ever heard had that kind of sound, inside or out.  Is this
typical or exceptional?

Ciao,
Jim
--
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"He was born with a gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad."
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Reading music off of flip folders....
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:22:27 GMT

bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.183636.28528@tessi.com> allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>>Geez Jim, you KNOW us dummers can't read music!  =)  Where was my MIND when
>>I said that we were only doing 120?  You're right though, 200 was about
>>right.  And I remember the first time I did a Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrramp!  I about
>>pissed my pants I was so excited!  90,000+ screaming idiots in the Horseshoe!

>Hey, didn't you guys wear your drums up with straps and march high step and
>wear those white gloves when you played? How could you do that? Didn't you
>want to revolt or something? Just curious...

>--Brad.


We did (they still do) wear a single sling strap across the right shoulder
and the snare drum rested on the left hip just underneath the arm and at
an angle.  We did wear white gloves and marched high step just like the
rest of the band (all brass and percussion with only a drum major).  The
only thing I really hated were the black and blue marks on my hips for 
the first month of each season which were the result of slamming the drum
into my left hip so that I could do quick turns or 180 degree turns or
even the 270 degree turns.  My left arm would get pretty black and blue
as well, but by slamming the drum into the hip, it moved along with the
body.  The tricky part was to do it during a song AND keep playing.  
But seriously, it was neat to do it, since we were always part of the band
and not different or special (except in our own eyes, of course!).  =)

allen
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From: cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER)
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:29:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.031629.186@leland.Stanford.EDU> stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford) writes:
>I just want to hear how people from other bands get along with their
>cheerleading squads.  Just so you have some history:
>
    In HS, we had problems with our cheerleaders dancing to our cadences and
other drum features. So to fix that we did a little research into the           cheerleader mind. We found that they can only count to 4. So, we started playing
warmups and any other crap we could in off time signatures! We had several 
warmups in 5/8, and 7/8. Sometimes we would drop a beat here or there just to
mess with their brains. What a rip! :)


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From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Marching Bands
Keywords: Marching
Organization: Two Meg Software Leisure Division
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:05:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.085433.8542@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:
>knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
>If you want entertainment, come watch the ISUCF"V"MB play some great music and
>a drill that moves!
>
>BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>Gee, I wish I were in a band that swings their feet out and goes "Whoop,
>Whoop" all the time.

Gee, I wish I were in a band that shuffles their feet and you can't hear from
20 yards away.

Ian Schmidt
2nd year Clarinet, ISUCF'V'MB




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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Joe Paterno
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:12:11 GMT

Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler) writes:

>> What to expect from the band? Well, I thought they were real nice and put
>> on a damn good show. There was only one bad thing about the trip: Joe Paterno.
>> What a putz. He wouldn't let either band march on the field at halftime
>> because 'we'd tear up his grass'.

>Hey, good ol' Joe was a jerk at the 1981 Fiesta Bowl, too.  Good to see
>some things don't change.

I was at the 1980 Fiesta Bowl, where Ohio State played Penn State, and we
didn't have even ONE problem with Joe.  I can understand him being a jerk
in Happy Valley, but how could he influence what goes on at a bowl game in
Tempe, AZ?

allen "JI-Row" warren
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From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Hey!  TUBAS.....where are you???
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:50:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.145543.2872@newstand.syr.edu>, sasmith@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Four) writes:
> 
> Here's the scoop....I was playing picc (that's piccolo, we don't march
> flutes!), and I was a rookie (a freshman to be exact).  I've never marched
> and well, now I do.  But...I've been plahing picc for 5 years and the
> tubas needed more players...so there were auditions.  Strenuous and mind
> boggling....I think I've marched across the nation by the time I could
> put the horn down at the end of it all...and eventually, I, and another
> clarinet player, were transformed into tubas.....TADAH!!!  End of story.
> 
> 
> So, to all of you marchers out there....catch SU at the Fiesta Bowl when
> we go against Colorado (anyone out there, get a hold of me!)....JAN 1st!!
> 
The tuba section at C.U. has also picked up a few converts along the way
(piccolos, saxes, etc.), and they also tend to be a rather proud and wild
group.  You might like them if we ever get to meet.

							Charles Holt
							C.U. Snareline
							(just to the left of 
							  center snare)
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Band Traditions
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:51:52 GMT

swain@aludra.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain) writes:

>On that day, it
>is also tradition that all the Freshman drink a root beer slick which is a
>concoction consisting of root beer, chili, jalepeno peppers, and bassically any
>other food substance which we can find.  They then have to drink it.  Believe
>me, that is an experience. 

You do this to your Freshman on a game day?  Are you guys THAT stupid?  And then
you expect the freshman to NOT get sick and still play that same day?  Yes, we
had our "traditions" at Ohio State, but none were ever done such as what you
describe above on a game day and we certainly wouldn't do anything that was even
CLOSE to physically harming someone.  What you speak of above is absolutely
ludicrous and harmful.  It possibly also explains why your marching and playing
is so bad, you're all too sick from your experiences at Tommy's on game days.

allen
From: jamestho@aludra.usc.edu (James Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 15:51:45 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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>> Sadly enough, U$C is a very snobby and very rich college. They often
> have "ringers" who are paid to beef up the band, and players in the
> band are given substantial scholarships. They are the biggest bunch of
> ash-holes that I've every seen. Whenever the Cal Band takes a road
> trip to U$C, their band often refuses to get out of the way to let us
> off the field, and they always laugh and point from the sidelines when
> we perform. In short they're arrogant bashtards. Ths song (to their
> song, Fight On) sums it up:
Why would such a post deserve a response.  As it stands, I am
not an average studnt at USC.  Notice the S not $ because all
I have is S's I have no $'s.  To my knowlege not one of
                                            the
band members has been payed without a formal audition into a
musc major on campus and has very little to do with being in
the marching band.  As to our fight song.  I have yet to hear
any Cal student sing it loud enough to be heard by any USC
student.  However, I believe our version of te Berkely song
is well known to them and others.  If it isn't just come to a
practice of the MB anytime a week before the CAL game.  I
would list the lyric bt they are relitively crude and sexist
so they do not belong in ths section.  We also had enough
imagination to fill up four of their eleven line verses.
For those asking about section rivalries, this is how our band
getsaround most of them( by beating other bands into dust
pschycologicaly).
                                        James the Horn

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From: dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly)
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:29:59 GMT

allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:
>dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:
>Geez Dave, what the hell crawled up your ass to make you so cranky?

Finals week...Sorry.
From: dgb@owlnet.rice.edu (Dennis Gale Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Marching Style Survey
Date: 12 Dec 92 06:38:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

How about the MOB (Marching Owl Band, Rice University)?
Scatter drills, end-zone runs, an occasional recognizable formation,
and entertaining, too. Loads of fun.
From: lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: TSU Band
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:00 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1gsnfiINN3jl@eagle.natinst.com>, larrya@natinst.com (Larry Anglin) writes...
>On the Austin news last night, they reported that the TSU band that went to 
>Tokyo was not the real TSU band, but a group of people that got together for
>the purpose of the trip.  Some were band members, some were students at TSU,
>but some were just friends of friends that went along for the ride.  If that
>is true, I don't see how you can really call it a band and the president
>probably should disband it.
> 
>Larry

The Austin news doesn't know what the hell it is talking about.  I was a 
member of the TSU Ocean of Soul marching band 1982-83.  This band was 
started back in the 1960's by Benjamin Butler III, who, incidentily, is
still the band director today.  The band works like you wouldn't believe.
I remember starting band practice at 3:30 in the afternoon and we would
be lucky if we finished by midnight.  And then often section leaders would
call for sectionals.  You could spend a semester in the Ocean and go
straight after that into boot camp and never notice the difference.  That
is how hard this band works.  Hell, it works harder than the damned
football team!  They have built a reputation in the black community of
Houston that is INCREDIBLE! 

I was the only white person in the Ocean that year.  I went because my
high school band director was hired as an assistant director there.  He
got me a scholarship. (In fact most of the students in the band are able
to go to college only because of the scholarships the band offers.)  His
name is Samuel Jackson and he himself marched in the Ocean as a student.

I have a great deal of respect fr both these men and what they do for
the stunts under them.  This incident (the theft) is the result of 
isolated individuals.  As far as non-students marching....I don't know,
but I can tell you that this band doesn't deserve dissolution.

Tammy Stark Blandino

The only white crab in 1982 and proud of it!


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