HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:26:38 EST
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB

In article <1993Jan19.191022.16702@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, pramath@ssf.ernet.in
(Pramathnath Sastry (forwarded)) says:


The lines in misleading Indian Express advertisement say:

>
> Why are we the NRI's of America concerned. It is because
> --------------------------------------------------------
> -Of the one million NRIs living in the U.S.A., over 900,000
> Hindus call Bharat as their mother
> -Hindus have only one place (other than Nepal) to call home. Their
> roots are in Bharat
> -Hindus want pure secularism, total pride in their heritage, and
> peace to all
>

There is too much claim to being a HINDU in these statements. What
happens to majority of NRI hindus who will not disagree with the content
of these statements but who rather would have Indian - ex Bharatwasi - to
replace HINDU in these statements ?.

The game of some NRI HINDU FANATICS is to make tall claims on behalf
of every one else.

regards..       Deepak


>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rgupta@ncb.gov.sg (Ram Gupta)
Subject: Baby's Name
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:01:30 GMT

Hi,

Could any of you tell me where can find the list containing baby's
name ( Hindu origin ). 

Thanks

-rg
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 20 Jan 1993 21:57:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

SSD writes:
>Feminazis *always* take things far too seriously. FFT's point is totally
>valid. Why the hell should the Matrons care what people of the Society
								^^^^^^^
>of Certified Idiots say about them? After all, SAWNET was formed with
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


	Ahem... Cowpyright violation, I see :) BTW, guyses, this was a
	creation of another feminazi :) in the true matron/vice-matron
	tradition :)

>the express purpose of having "useful discussions" in an environment
>free from idiots, right? Unless of course, they're closet MCPs ... ;-)
					    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	hehehehehehe :) you'll do just fine on SCI, SSD :)

	FFT






Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: A. Satish Pai <Pai-Satish@CS.Yale.Edu>
Subject: F-2 visa query
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven CT 06520, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:58:02 GMT


Hello!

A friend of mine who is in the US on an F-1 visa intends to have his wife
come over to the US on an F-2 visa some time around May. She will most likely
be applying for the visa at the Madras consulate. 

He would like to know if there are any problems / hassles with getting the 
F-2 visa these days. He's looking for information specific to the Madras 
consulate. Assuming the documentation is in order, is there a good chance of
the visa being granted? Any tips, hints, or anecdotal information of recent
experiences, etc. would be welcome. 

Please mail responses to me (Pai-Satish@CS.Yale.Edu). If there is sufficient
interest I will summarize on the net. 

Thanks!

-Satish


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: must@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mustafa Syed)
Subject: Re: Ref: India/Tibet (China) Border Issues	
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:56:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.145634.27953@bnr.ca> uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:
>So I take it thatMr MSayed would like to see countinuation
>to communist repression of Tibetans perhaps Nepal, India or
>Pakistan could be next target of the Chinese communists. 
>Where do you draw the line?

	You can take whatever you feel like taking.
	That is your right!
	As far as "chinese communist expansion" is concerned...well
	it has NOT happened in the last 42+ years despite propaganda
	to the contrary. In the case of Tibet, a misstatement of fact
	was made...intentionally or otherwise....and I corrected it.
	If you or any one else for that matter, can prove through
	historical evidence that an independent country called TIBET ever
	existed, then perhaps we can discuss, else as far as opinion is
	concerned, you can have one as far removed from the "facts" as may
	please your soul!.........

	As an example, an indian netter..( I don't want to name names here),
	claimed that " UN lawyers have established that Kashmir was an
	integral part of India due to law of inheritance...."
	I called him a liar on this very net and challenged him to prove
	his statement. That was nearly 2 years back. He replied stating
	that he has requested relevant info. from his source in India.
	I reminded him again after about six months and he said that he
	is still waiting for the info. to come. Naturally, since there
	was NO such info. to start with, it has still not arrived from India.
	
	I expected atleast an apology to the netters he tried to misled,
	knowingly or otherwise, but decency and integrity of character is
	not really a trait that abounds on this net....so to each according
	to his deeds!

	Will you apologize to the netters for posting WRONG information?

	Mustafa Syed.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sanghi@wam.umd.edu (Dheeraj Sanghi)
Subject: Re: .... 60.min/dowry....
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:09:27 GMT

In an article seeta@hub.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma) writes:

>Dowry and Dowry deaths are not related.

Are you saying that dowry and dowry deaths are unrelated. I would
have thought that only those murders would be called dowry deaths
which are caused by a failure of woman's family to satisfy the
DOWRY demands of the man's family. Is there something I am missing.


>The normal man wants dowry because in today's VERY-TOUGH-
>to-SURVIVE materialistic world of increasing competition, its
>the easiest way to a happy life.

Poor man. He has no choice but to ask for dowry. The right to
a happy life is god-given right to man and he will ensure it
even if he has to kill a woman for it.


>I actually see no difference between the american
>credit card life and the indian dowry-funded lifestyles.

You are very right. Just like an American can tear a credit
card and throw it in the trash, an Indian male can also
treat his wife like trash when she can no longer fulfill
the dowry demands.


>The american ``charges it'' and works to pay it off later.  The indian
>``gets it from in-laws'' and then works to accumulate an amount for
>the next generation (his daughters)...

You are really a genius. There is a slight problem in the analogy,
however. The american gets the credit from a willing bank, while
the Indian gets it by virtue of social pressure. I guess, if they
legalize bank robbery in this country, the analogy will be complete.


>Every one has a cushy life exactly when they
>are capable of enjoying the most -- their youth/early married life.

And every one has the most troubled life exactly when they
are least capable of handling it - in their 50's and 60's.


>A feasible eceonomic system I should say.  And always, U will find
>a few Ivan Boesky's who will misuse it.

A few. May be you meant a few million. A slip of tongue
(nah, keyboard), I should say.


>But a major difference lies in that stock market
>fringe elements like Sri. Boesky, didnt kill anyone.  But our
>fringe elements are....

Oops.


>Concluding ::-  Either, we abolish materialism in india, or we shut up.

Since we are not about to abolish materialism in India, I guess
we should shut up. Would you lead the way, Sir ?

(By the way, how does one go about abolishing materialism in India.
Can I send a FAX to my MP asking him to bring some legislation to
this effect in the upcoming session of the parliament. No, I can't
do that. FAX is a symbol of materialism, I guess. How about an
old-style post-card.)


>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma (email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


-dheeraj
-- 
Dheeraj Sanghi			(h):301-474-3592	(o):301-405-2723
Internet: dheeraj@cs.umd.edu	UUCP: uunet!mimsy!dheeraj
If you want to judge the culture and civilization of a people you can find
that out by the status and conditions of the women of the country. - Nehru
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: fabricated posts 
Organization: -
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:37:59 GMT
Distribution: usa

rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A) writes:

   >In this *indepth* and truthful article, the trench warfare expert, 
   >Mr. Raghavan, toothfully maintains :
   >
   >[....]
   >
   >Though, this time we used tea spoons and we were done in just 
   >under a nanosec.
   >
   >- Diligent war correspondent, reporting to you alive ;-)
   >
   >Arathi.

[...]  

:)

P.S.: I sense more fraud in this (SAMOSANET) than Sonia-Mal 
affair and Ram Lakhan put together. Try baiting somebody else.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:25:33 GMT

In article <93022.112638DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>, Deepak Srivastava
<DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.191022.16702@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, pramath@ssf.ernet.in
> (Pramathnath Sastry (forwarded)) says:
> 
> 
> The lines in misleading Indian Express advertisement say:
> 
> >
> > Why are we the NRI's of America concerned. It is because
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > -Of the one million NRIs living in the U.S.A., over 900,000
> > Hindus call Bharat as their mother
> > -Hindus have only one place (other than Nepal) to call home. Their
> > roots are in Bharat
> > -Hindus want pure secularism, total pride in their heritage, and
> > peace to all
> >
> 
> There is too much claim to being a HINDU in these statements. What
> happens to majority of NRI hindus who will not disagree with the content
> of these statements but who rather would have Indian - ex Bharatwasi - to
> replace HINDU in these statements ?.
> 
> The game of some NRI HINDU FANATICS is to make tall claims on behalf
> of every one else.
> 
> regards..       Deepak
> 
> 
> >
> >



As far as the Ad. is concerned, it is very clear in its message and cannot be
called misleading. 

Its interesting to note however that support for radical groups in
India comes very strongly from supporters based in the west irrespective of
the ideology... whether they are Kashmiri, Sikh, Muslim, Hindu etc.

Sitting pretty in their cushy nests here, they are always the most vocal in
their slogans and generous with their money.

--Javed.
 



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Re: Attacks on muslims help moderates?? (Re: Beyond The Babri Masjid
	<1k6r8oINNsa4@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:09:17 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1k6r8oINNsa4@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:

   Once again I raise my voice against this wholesale sowollowing of Western
   political myths.  The barbarians at the helm in Algeria, Egypt, and Saudi
   Arabia are anything but "moderate" and "legitimate".  
----
I did not say that. The point was that in Algeria, more extremist muslim
grassroots based organizations have gained popularity in the eyes of the
masses, especially lower-income, young arabs, as a result of attacks elsewhere
on muslims-- especially Iraq. They have been helped by the present leadership's
refusal to condemn what happened in Iraq. Similarly, both saudi Arabia and
Wgypt have seen a rise in the power of opposition Islamic fundamentalist 
groups after the gulf war.

   It is abusud to suggest that the House of Saud (about which we know a lot)
   is moderate and legitimate compared to its opposition 
----
I didn't make any such assertion in my post. 

--Naeem
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: Subscribing to Filmfare and Dharmyug
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:24:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.115701.2117@newstand.syr.edu> mrangasw@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Muralidhar Rangaswamy) writes:
>Hi folks! I am posting this message on behalf of a friend who does
>not have access to the newsgroup. My friend is interested in subscribing to
>Filmfare and Dharmyug.
>

Filmfare!  Oh! My God! Don't you know people on this net only read Kant,
Espinoza and the Hegel.  

This is clearly a provacative piece of mail to incite the scholarly readership
of this group. 

Be careful. :)


Rakesh Patel
>
From: ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfLt_GC00iV38_34Bx
Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 19-Jan-93 (misleading) Indian
Express.. by Pramathnath Sastry @ssf. 
>  This is a copy of an Advertisement that appeared in the
>  Indian Express yesterday. Ajay Shah and his ilk have decided
>  to speak for all NRIs. If people reading this feel this is a
>  distortion of the views held by the silent majority, then
>  please don't remain silent. I have reason to believe that
>  there are many many NRIs who disagree with the Ad -

[ad and other good stuff deleted for brevity]

I agree completely with the sentiment you express.  I agree that the
demand for a uniform civil code is merely a convenient one for the
champions of hinduism.  On the other hand, perhaps we "Psecularists"
should perhaps 'fess up to being soft on minority community
fundamentalism.  It has severely undermined our cause and been a source
of great joy to the hindu right wing.

cheers
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why Muslin persecution is rempant these days?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:58:43 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu


Turkey is secular. So are Iraq and Syria (Ba'ath Party in both places). Of 
course, neither is a haven for anybody but terrorists.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: bkannan@ho10.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why Muslin persecution is rempant these days?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:07:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


srinivas sunder writes:

|>> "Even as US celebrates almost 250 years of democracy, there is not even a 
|>> single country (with muslims in majority) where democracy exists"

>Turkey. Pakistan. Bangladesh. Malaysia. Indonesia (well, sort of). Kazakhstan
>(again, sort of).

|> Mohan

>-- 
>Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

>If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.

                Egypt??

bk

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shenoy@iastate.edu (Shiva Shenoy)
Subject: Re: PC (and I dont mean politically correct) fonts
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:27:53 GMT

In <26JAN199317563307@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov> mila@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mila Mitra) writes:


>	I know this info sprouts up regularly on the net, but since I am
>an erratic reader, I am always at phase shifts with it. 
>        Can someone tell me how to/ and from where to obtain regional
>language fonts for the PC , in particular Bengali? Replying by e-mail
>should be ok.
>        My PC and I will be eternally grateful...

ftp ftp.cica.indiana.edu
login> anonymous
passwd> yourloginnameandaddress
> cd pub/pc/win3/fonts
> bin
> get sgaon.zip
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Originator: ssd@vayu.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:09:41 GMT


In article <2474@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca>, rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca
(RANGANATHAN A            ) writes:

> In article <1jle10INNkhg@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay
> Fafat) writes:
> > SSD writes:
> > >Feminazis *always* take things far too seriously. FFT's point is
> totally
> > >valid. Why the hell should the Matrons care what people of the
> Society
> > 								^^^^^^^
> > >of Certified Idiots say about them? After all, SAWNET was formed
> with
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > 
> > 
> > 	Ahem... Cowpyright violation, I see :) 
> 
> Hmmmmmm, I can see that. 
> SSD you are hereby sentenced to produce 20, well make it 25, inane
> articles within the next 24 hours. Since FFT has taken a shine to 
> ya, I guess you would be done in about 15 mins. ;-) 
> 
> you can contact FFT at : fafat@aludra.usc.edu for counselling. ;-)
> ;-)
> 

Hey Jones, don't bring FFT saab (pbuh) into the picture. Unke baare mein
aadar se baat karna.And once you have,
shouldn't that be cownselling? ;-)

> 
> All the best, 
> 
> 
> Arathi.  
> 

Srikant
From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Why Sher?
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:01:32 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

Why so much brouhaha over Sher?  Doesn't anyone love Sonny any more?


- Inquiring mind  =%-&

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: akash@brahms.udel.edu (Akash Sharma)
Subject: Re: Regarding Indian Behaviour . . .
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:54:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.000448.15597@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> f0g1@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Prasad Gokhale) writes:
>In article <1k4hfo$rh1@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-1ky@web-1g.berkeley.edu () writes:
>
>>heritage and customs, but Indians here have forgotten the Gandhi's, 
>>Vivekananda's, Nehru's who strove to rid us of the West. Thank God they are
>>					- Vikram.
>
>Gandhiji and Swamiji alright...but Nehru ? I hope you are not serious...
>
>Prasad. 

	I am puzzled.  Gandhi and Vivekananda (and Nehru) were brilliant 
people, to say the least.  And in all my readings (thought not extensive), I
never saw them as saying that "West" as a whole is bad.  Furthermore, I think
it is wrong to say that they strove to rid us of the West; the more accurate
view being that they strove to rid us of oppression by foreigners and to make
us see the better points of our own culture.  Gandhi,Vivekananda, and Nehru
were ethnocentric seems to me a gross misinterpretation.
Akash.
akash@brahms.udel.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: aluru@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Aluru)
Subject: Re: AFFORDABLE DENTISTS IN NY/NJ AREA ??
Reply-To: aluru@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Aluru)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:17:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.172617.27415@news.columbia.edu>,
rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde) writes:
>  Does anybody know of an affordable dentist in the NY/NJ area? I am a student
> 
>  would appreciate any info and personal references.
> 
>  Thank you in advance....
> 
> 
>  Raghu
> 

You haven't indicated what your problem is. If it is just filling, it will
cost you around $30 for one filling. I had a root canal treatment and a golden
tooth and the whole thing costed me a cool 1000$. I had to shell this out
one month after coming here as a student.

-aluru
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Shivanand Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Clashes in Bombay/Delhi - 4 Dead
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:18:54 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu
Keywords: Hindu Muslim Clashes

In article <1993Jan27.141754.526@ulysses.att.com> bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy) writes:
>apnews reports:
> NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ Mobs damaged a mosque and a Hindu temple
>in the capital today and burned dozens of shops in a new outburst
>of ethnic violence. Two people were killed.


	Good reporting. But next time could you please write the date
	of the report? I think that would make your piece quite complete.

	Shivanand Bhajekar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lahiri@pion.lanl.gov (Amitabha Lahiri  505-667-6825)
Subject: Re: A N-Y Times article
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:42:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.170705.15132@Princeton.EDU> deb@soil.Princeton.EDU  
(Arghya Deb) writes:
> nirvanas - they cannot be allowed to suppress and pervert the natural
> genius of the Indian race. 

Ah, the super race at last. Reading Nietzche lately?
--
Amitabha Lahiri, e-mail:lahiri@pion.lanl.gov
Disclaimer: No one else is responsible for what I say, and vice versa.
From: fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:48:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

The North Cowrolina Cow finally Mooed :)

>Arathi, don't u know better than to play with kids? When will u ever learn?

	Hey, don't tell me the windsor feminazi was posting on Sawnet again!

	FFT




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