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From: sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: TextEdit bug in 7.0
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:36:47 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.204628.12494@pollux.lu.se> roland.mansson@ldc.lu.se (Roland Mansson) writes:
>>What happens is that (sometimes) when the insertion point is between char
>>1 and 2 of a line and you press the left arrow key, the insertion point
>>moves to the end of the previous line (ie not to before char 1 on the
>>current line, as it should).
>This is NOT a bug but is described in detail in IM VI pp. 15-6 through 15-8.

Yes, it most certainly *is* a bug.

>The problem is that "a single caret position can correspond to two character
>offsets."  The trailing edge of character N and the leading edge of character
>N+1 would have the same caret position (in left-to-right text).

The only time this *should* enter into play is when an app sets the insertion
point with TESetSelect.  There is simply no ambiguity when TEClick and
TEKey are used, and TextEdit *should* deal with it properly.

Unfortunately, it does not.
-- 
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
Yes, I'm still working on Eudora and it's still free.
From: triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Think C 5.0 & SndPlay Routine
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:07:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University at Buffalo
Originator: triantos@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu

Have you #included <Sound.h>?  I made a stupid little program to teach myself
the basics of playing sounds synchronously and in asynch mode, and all I did
was #include <Sound.h> and add MacTraps to the project.

email me if you still have problems.

-Nick
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120 ft/sec, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter." - Dave Barry
From: pollansw@cse.fau.edu (Warren Pollans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: How to make miniEdit a DA?
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:28:28 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

Is it possible to make MiniEdit (ThinkC) demo into a DA.  I would
like a very simple editor to write these notes while on line.

Thanks,
	Warren

pollansw@sunrise.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jregier@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jason Regier)
Subject: Re: How to HIDE Files on a mac to prevent Piracy?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:47:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.165851.20833@doug.cae.wisc.edu> rsimon@cae.wisc.edu (Robert Simon) writes:
>>Q. Any suggestions, and also: HOW TO MAKE FILES INVISIBLE eg a file in
>>Preferences or Control Panels folder?
>>
>
>Have you tried/heard of ResEdit?  It can make files invisible quite easily:
>
etc...
>Rob Simon
>rsimon@cae.wisc.edu

Remember that although these Invisible files are invisible when on the
desktop, they are not invisible to programs.  Most dialog boxes which display
the full contents of a folder (i.e. some open and I believe most save dialog
boxes) will have your invisible file in their listing.

If you do plan to use the Invisibility option as a piracy deterrent, I would
suggest also placing the invisible application deep in a nest of folders
where nobody would stumble onto it, and providing those users that should have
access with aliases to your hidden application.

Jason Regier
jregier@jarthur.claremont.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13527 comp.sys.mac.comm:8098 comp.sys.mac.programmer:14240 comp.unix.aux:3198
From: johng@informix.com (John Galloway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Commtoolbox question (I think)
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:32:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Galloway Research
Originator: johng@godzilla

Since there does not appear (if you know otherwise please tell me)
to be any FAX sw that works under A/UX (i.e. does not play around
with the serial line itself, is 32 bit clean, sys 7 compat, follows all the
rules..) I am thining about writing some.  I would really like to have it
be able to be in continuous recieve mode, yet NOT interfer with
other apps that wanted to open that line and use the modem (e.g.
applelink, versaterm, etc.)  So is there a way to "pick up" an
incomming call, yet not have the whatever-it-is-you-open (this will
be my first mac app, I'm a unix kind of guy) open or in use thus
preventing other apps from using it?  thanks!
	-jrg

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From: mks@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Mark Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Grammer Checkers:which one?
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:50:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group

I need to buy a grammer checker.  I'm looking for recommendations.
I use MacWrite II on a classic II, system 7.  I need it for my
Masters classes and my kids need something for school papers.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark
From: John.Hirsch@mixcom.mixcom.com (John.Hirsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Norton 2.0 Special Price?
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:59:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug15.145953.2992
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

In <1992Aug14.215105.3943@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:

>I got mine for $29.00.  When I ordered the upgrade, I *specifically*
>mentioned that I was upgrading from v1.1, and I verified the price
>before giving out my credit card number.

>Since you have already ordered and received yours, I'm not sure what
>you can do now.  I'm assuming you upgraded from v1.1...

  Yup, that's what I did.  A few weeks ago, I finally received a letter from
Symantec.  It was from their Returns department.  It read:

  Dear  ,  (<---really!!  no name!!!)

  We are sorry that we were unable to provide your software
  requirements at this time, but we look forward to serving your future
  needs.

Attached to the letter was a credit slip for $19.00, the original "upgrade"
price from 1.0 to 1.1.  Apparently, they treated my case as Returned
Software, and gave me a $19 credit, which makes my upgrade $20.00.

Of course, the lady on the phone denied there was ever such an offer.  Those
Symantec folks really need to talk to each other more often!  Still, they did
finally get me my money though, so I'm happy.

>-------------------------  NEW .SIG IN PROGRESS  -----------------------------
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Hi there.
From: olle@astro.uu.se (Olof Morell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: DictionaryandThesaurus
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:09:52 GMT
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <1992Aug13.010718.13040@cssc-woll.tansu.com.au>, dan@cssc-woll.tansu.com.au (Dan Cunningham) writes:
|> Does anyone know of any Dictioary/Thesaurus packages available.
|> 
|> I am looking for more than just a spell checker. I want an application that
> will spell check a given word and provide its meaning in dictionary mode and
> provide alternate words in thesaurus mode.

WriteNow includes a Thesuarus, 3.0 has it built into it, 2.x had a separate
DA, which could only work with WN. 1,400,000 words. T/Maker is the vendor.

For me it has worked just fine, and I think WN is a very nice WP, 3.0
is much better than earlier versions. You can run it on a VERY small Mac if
you want.

Wordstar international sells something called The American Heritage
Dictionary, stand alone, works with all word processors, it claims,
haven't tried it, so, no opinion...

Good luck,

*** Olle ***
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From: Philip.Schuler@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Philip Schuler)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: ACCESS PC V2.0 VS V.1.1
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:46:02 -0500

Robert,
        I don't have any help on conflicts between AccessPC v.2 and the INITs
you mentioned (Disklight, Scroll2, PopCharacter), but I was wondering if you
could enlighten me on the differences between AccessPC version 2.0 and version
1.1.  I got the upgrade notice and couldn't seem to find anything new in the new
version. 
Thanks,
Phil Schuler


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: WHITESR@APPSTATE.EDU (Steve White)
Subject: StaView 4.0:Some Personal Gripes
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:08:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23


Staview 4.0 is advertised as a (1) data tansformation
and mathematical manipulation, (2) statistical analysis,
(3) graphing, and (4) drawing program. "By allowing you
to perform all these tasks inside one application,
StatView can significantly decrease the time you spend
on data analysis and presentation." (Manual at p.1)

Personally, after waiting years for this upgrade, I have
found StaView severely lacking in a number of areas in
which I eagerly awaited performance enhancemnets.

1. There are no power features regarding how the program
handles missing data. Specifically, in a line chart,
it draws a line between each data point on either side of 
the missing value. I needed the option of leaving a gap
in the line to represent the missing data.

2. The user can't select an individual data point or line
segment in a line chart and assign a distinct format to
it.

3. The program allows the user to copy a chart as a pict,
but if the pict is pasted back into Statview, it comes
in as one indivisible object, that is, it can't be
ungrouped. Therefore, this is not an option to workaround
item #2 above.

As a word of praise, the program now appears to
incorporate many more options. The specific feature that
I direly needed years ago (user selection of pairwise or
listwise deletion of missing data in correlation
computations) has been added.

Regarding these features, it appears that Excel 4.0
satisfies my needs better that Statview 4.0, and with
Excel 4.0, I get many, many other powerful features
that I probably will use on a daily basis.

Bottom-line: for my needs, Statview 4.0 is too liitle
too late. It would be nice if these problems would be
addressed a lot faster than the wait for this upgrade.

Steve
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From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
Subject: Compressed TIFF
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 11:27:05 GMT

I have scanned an image using the 'Graphic Editor' that goes with the
OmniPagePro2.0 program. When I tried to convert it using GIFConverter229,
I got the message that it was in a compressed TIFF format, which GIFConv
didn't support. How can I make it a GIF ? Are there any freeware progs that
will do the trick ?

Thanx!

/Par
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: whitmore@iastate.edu (Kurt D Whitmore)
Subject: Re: Cross-products in Mathematica 1.1, how?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:30:38 GMT

In <~3@byu.edu> parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (john r park) writes:

>I'm using Mathematica 1.1 and I can't for the life of me
>figure out how to tell M_ to take a cross-product.  Dot
>product is in the index but I can't find cp mentioned
>anywhere.  Help!
>-- 
>#include <std_disclaimer.h>

>John R Park                |  Dept of Mech. Engineering
>parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University

__________

There is a newsgroup called:                            sci.math.symbolic
that is more appropriate for your question.

Here is your answer though:

Type:

        <<Cross.m

(go to the LinearAlgebra folder if it doesnt find it)


there is also:

        Vectors.m

as well.

Open the file itself via the open command if you want
to see the structure of the Mma commands contained within.





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From: sfk@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Knight)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:52:50 GMT
Subject: Re: "Typist Plus Graphics" OCR -- How good?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
From: Ian Catlin <catlin@iosg.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: In Control vs Daymaker?
Organization: digital
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
     <1992Aug19.002434.868@brtph560.bnr.ca> <collin.714189323@angelo>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:04:00 GMT

Since I posted the root article of this thread, I've obtained a demo of
both DayMaker and 
In Control.  I STILL can't choose, but I'm leaning toward In Control,
since I don't need ANOTHER calendar!   I'm interested in Thought Pattern
though - any info ???

Ian. 


All my views are my own and not those of my company, wife, friends,
relations and dog.
From: aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for app to run DA's under System 7
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:23:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BtADBz.D78
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

>aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman) writes:

>>I'm looking for an app to install a few (4) DA's to run under System 7.
>>I found this program on mac.archive.umich.edu called DASh, but it opens all
>>of the DA's when launched. I basically want the equivalent of DA Handler
>>(from Multfinder - System 6) - just a File and Edit menu. If anyone knows of
>>such an app, any help would be greatly appreciated.

>    Am I the only one who doesn't understand this request? One of the
>great things about System 7 is the fact that you no longer need an app
>to install DA'a any longer. You just drop them into your system folder
>and let it do the rest. System 7 treats each DA as if it were an
>application unto itself.

You know, I realized now that I should have described *why* I am trying
to do this.

I am running a lab of Mac on System 7, and I would like to hide the
System Folder. But doing so disables all of the Apple Menu items. I was
trying to look for an app to hold all of the DA's, put in the Startup
folder, and disable the Quit command on the app. Then the students can
get to the DA's w/out getting a chance to muck around in the System Folder.

But I figured out the answer to my problem anyway. You can use Font/DA Mover
to move DA's back into the System File under Sys7. Then, if you hide the
System Folder, or quit the Finder, the DA's will still be accessible.

Sorry about the confusion.


-- 
Alan A. DeGuzman                 "I dunno, it seems like once people grow up,
Calculus&Mathematica              they have no idea what's cool"
DISCLAIMER: "The University 
can't afford my opinions."                        - A naked Calvin to Hobbes
From: eric@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:27:33 GMT
Subject: Re: 3-D renderers/modellers.  (was: * Review: Infini-D 2.0)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps



  Get StrataVision!  I had mine for about a year now and have been very 
impressed with it.  True, the old version did have slow rendering times, but
the new version is about twice as fast.  Just keep in mind that you won't be
using the best rendering algorithm all the time, just when you want a finished
looking picture.  One of the things I like about SV is that you can choose
what rendering algorithm to use ie. Radiosity, Raytracing, Phong, etc.  Which
one you use will have a dramatic affect on rendering time. 

  I have had a chance to work with the other programs you mentioned and I think
that SV is the best buy for the buck.


Eric Lucas
Hewlett-Packard
Industrial Design
From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for app to run DA's under System 7
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:45:30 GMT

In article <BtADBz.D78@news.cso.uiuc.edu> aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A  
DeGuzman) writes:
> You know, I realized now that I should have described *why* I am trying
> to do this.
> 
> I am running a lab of Mac on System 7, and I would like to hide the
> System Folder. But doing so disables all of the Apple Menu items. 

Most DA's don't need to be in the Apple Menu Items folder to function. You  
can treat them just like applications and drop the icons anywhere you  
want. The user just double-clicks to launch, just as with any other  
application.

--
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
From: wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mikey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Excel 4.0 vs 3.0
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:19:14 GMT
Organization: I am not a number!

I purchased Excel 3.0 as an upgrade from 2.2 around a year ago it seems.

Now I see Excel 4.0 advertised.

1) as a registered Excel 2.2 and 3.0 user, why am I not being marketed
to for 4.0?

2) I have seen an upgrade kit advertised as available to excel 1.5 and
2.2 users.  Why are not 3.0 users included?  Do we get the upgrade for
free?

3) Is the upgrade worthwhile?

Help with information!  Bill sure isn't to his registered victims.

Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Anders Wallgren <anders@verity.com>
Subject: Re: Money Management Program Wanted
Organization: Verity, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:36:41 GMT
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X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
X-Xxdate: Wed, 19 Aug 92 23:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.180913.26845@sequent.com> Alan Holzman,
holzman@sequent.com writes:
>Consider Quicken 3.0 for the MAC. Easy to use, simple yet
powerful. Runs
>well on older, small memory machines too. HIGHLY recommended !
> 

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  I use Quicken 3.0 and
CheckFree (electronic bill paying) and I love it.

anders
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Subject: Re: CPUseless???
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:41:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.225721.25420@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross) writes:
>>
>I've got to disagree with this post on a general level. I have been
>using CPU since MacWorld in Boston and have been quite satisfied with
>it. I called them about the rapid decrease in the time remaining
>indicator. They acknowledged it to be a problem and are working on a
>fix which will be mailed to all REGISTERED users for no charge.
>
They seems to suggest I have a pirated copy (an assertion I resent).
I have a full copy, complete with reg card, master disk, etc. It was
given to me. That, as far as I know, is legal.

>Every other aspect of the package has worked as advertised and I find
>it indespensible since I use my Powerbook 170 in two different office
>settings as well as at home and travelling. It is simply a matter of
>selecting the CPU setting from a menu to change all the defaults for my
>Powerbook. I like that convenience. (I never could get QuickKeys 2 to
>actually complete a whole sequence of events to do what CPU does
>seamlessly).

I'm glad you need all those settings. I would be happy with just the
AC and battery settings. I suspect many/most users would find that
adequate and there'd be less stuff in CPU.

The dialog box keyboard functions work so rarely for me as to be
useless. The menu keyboard functions look like Windows which causes
me to break out in hives. Well not exactly, but, you get the idea.
>
>BTW, the clock is just fine and doesn't interfere with any other items
>in the menu. I don't have a single program that has any problem
>displaying the clock. Perhaps you shouldchange the font and size? (I
>use Palatino 12 pt.)
>

The clock disappears in Excel 4.0 and Word 5.0, among others. Those
applications are my bread and butter. I can't see the clock now,
either, in my terminal program.

Incidentally, it took 75 minutes to kill the last 20 minutes of
charge on the CPU battery indicator. That is not only useless but
also one of those warnings that causes you to overreact. I have only
two batteries and if I switched them when CPU told me there were 20
minutes left, I'd have been shorted over an hour of battery. Not
good on the transcon flight I'm taking tomorrow.

>Bob Gross
>bob.gross@dartmouth.edu

CPU, like CrashBarrier, is a case of "Wait until version 2.0" or at
least until version 1.0.5ish. The plusses of the current version
(customizable settings for drive, backlight, etc.) aren't enough
reason to give up my clock!!!!

Mark Rogowsky
rogo@forsythe.stanford.edu
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: .dl viewer for the Mac
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:07:08 EDT
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

Hi there netters,

I'm looking for a application that will enable me to view .dl files
from my Mac IIci. I just know that if there's one available, someone
here will have heard about it.

Thanks.

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From: warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robert T Warden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Pseudo-FPU & Mathematica ??
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:16:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Does the Pseudo-FPU extension work with Mathematica 
(the co-processor dependent version) on a Classic II?

-Thanks...

Rob Warden
warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: color quickdraw?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:32:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.223407.19415@spock.retix.com>, tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding) writes:
> 
> Thanks again to all who helped track down a sys 7 INITPicker and _Launch
> replacement for me.  I've now got Finder Palette 1.0 - BUT I DON'T HAVE
> COLOR QUICKDRAW!
> Can anyone point out where on the archives it is? I've tried archie to
> no avail. (Is it share/free ware?)

Color Quickdraw is built in to every 020,030 and 040 Macintosh, and
requires an 020 or later CPU.  32-bit Color Quickdraw is a seperate file
that works with earlier versions of the system, but works only with 020
and later Macs that have the QD ROMs.  It is built in to later versions
of the system (6.0.4 or 6.0.5 and later) (and, if I'm not totally off
base) into the ROM of the later hardware.