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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Christian Metal ???
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:18:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.233726.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
   
   (STuff deleted)

 > I dare you to come up with Satanic preaching in metal.
 > 
   (More stuff deleted)

 > --Semhaza
 > =============================
 > Glen Benton For President:
 > If you're tired of voting for
 > the lesser of two evils!

Deicide.  Dark Throne.  (IMHO, Deicide sucks, but Dark Throne isn't so bad).

Leif the .sigless
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Diamond Head
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:39:46 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

>
>Rodney Matthews did the cover for 'Living...On Borrowed Time', which I thought 
>was the -only- true album they ever put out. It had Elric on the front.

Elric of Melnibourne? (ie Michael Moorcock's fictional character - Moorcock
being an ex-member of Hawkwind?)
Anyway, CANTERBURY  was the other true album they put out, but I hear it
wasn't too good. AM I EVIL? and BEHOLD THE BEGINNING are just "greatest hits"
and singles stuff remixed by Brian Tatler and reissued.

> Behold the Beginning could be an original album, but not RM artwork.
>	I have a compilation from a couple a years back called Am I Evil. This had
>RM artwork (sort of wierd train on the front) and could possibly be renamed for the
>USA to what you're talking about.
>
>Apart from these, there is the Friday Rock show session of the band playing at 
>Reading in 82 I think. BTW Tony WILSON is the FRS producer I think you'll find.

Yup. It's very good recording.

OOPS. STUFF ABOUT DIAMOND LIGHTS EP ACCIDENTALLY DELETED
>call me, and 2 other tracks. This is different to the rarer EP, "Shoot out the lights"
>which is 4 tracks based on their demo before they got a record deal.

DIAMOND LIGHTS was "Diamond Lights," "We Won't Be Back," "I Don't Got" and a
new version of "It's Electric." Sort of new. Same guitar solo track was used
from the original recording.

>Cantebury (in the UK anyway) had a plainish black cover with diamond head in normal
>type writing as opposed to the original DH monicker. The picture was an etching of
>a knight in armour as I recall, not at all like the stylised artwork of Matthews.
>>
>I heard a while back that DH (ie tatler & harris) reformed. Silence since then.
>
According to Metallica, Lars Ulrich said that he persuaded Tatler and Harris
to come back together so that they could write more stuff that Metallica could
rip off. (Ulrich said that in some magazine but I can't remember its name.)

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
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From: graikund@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Gitesh Raikundalia)
Subject: Re: And Justice For All lyrics
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:47:22 GMT

G'day again
		Just caught up with the news today. I do not possess
any Metallica albums although I know heaps and have heard absolutely
heaps of their music. The last time I played the tape of AJFA was 
last year and the copy my friend had (yes, the original) did not have
lyrics. 

		Thanks for goin' to all the trouble all!
							Gitesh
From: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Christian Metal???
Date: 29 Sep 1992 05:28:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


If you would bother and read my first post that started the Christian Metal
thread, you would see that I was arguing (though admittedly in a compressed
form) from a purely abstract and theological standpoint, and not
perpetrating some mindless stereotypes.  And I don't "have a problem"; I
was suggesting a topic for discussion.  Learn to read, then you can try to
carry on an intelligent conversation.

                                               Moses
 
-- 
 | |^\   /\   \   |   \   |   /| | |\   +--- \   | "Ask for thyself another
 | | / /    \ | \ |   | \/|  X | | | \  |--  | \ |  kindom, for that which
 | | \ \____/ |  \|   |   | / \| | |__/ \___ |  \|  I leave is too small 
      \           |       |                      |  for thee"
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Diamond Head
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:46:57 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Sep28.122646.9512@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.192102.8952@prime.mdata.fi> kimmop@mits.mdata.fi (Kimmo Paasiala) writes:
>>Could anyone tell me how many albums this band did?
>>
>Lightning To The Nations 
>Diamond Head (?)

	What's this?  Are you sure this exists?  As far as I know, 
the band released "Lightning" and several EPs independently, then
signed to MCA for "Borrowed Time" and "Canterbury Tales".  So I'm
not convinced there was ever a self-titled album.  There was an 
EP called "Diamond Lights", but that was just one of the pre-MCA
EPs they put out ...

>Borrowed Time
>Canterbury
>Behold The Beginning
>The Friday Rock Show Sessions
>
>plus a bunch of EPs and singles
>
>PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
>"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
>lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
>the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"

	Now there you go :-)  Great song (as I said before ...)

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
..!sdcsvax!bruss	bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: pw2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter Jason Ward)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Bands People HATE!!!
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:22:31 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey, no shit,  I like Enya and Classics and other shit like that, and I
like Slayer, Metallica, MegaDave, you name it, diversity is not a bad
thing.  Specially if it's in Celtic.
                                                          Peter Ward
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From: dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker)
Subject: Iron Maiden and 'Eddie'
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:12:18 GMT

Can anyone tell me the story behind that guy on the cover of most of the Iron
Maiden albums? I believe his name is Eddie. Thanks.

Hiz Lord Dementia
-- 
"You can't help that. We're all mad here."-The cheshire cat, Alice in WL

"A mass hysteria/a megalomania/reveal Dementia/reveal"-Metallica                
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Anthrax albums
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:33:21 GMT

In article <92273.182636MVO100@psuvm.psu.edu> <MVO100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I recently started liking Anthrax, and I wanted to know how many CD's they have
>. I don't know too much about them before I'm the Man EP, State of Euphoria,  P
>ersistence of Time, and Killer B's. Could someone post the other CD's they have
>. Thanx.

SOLDIERS OF METAL (EP, but doubt it's on CD)
FISTFUL OF METAL (1984, Caroline)
??? (some rap - metal union with Full Force)
SPREADING THE DISEASE (1985, Island)
ARMED AND DANGEROUS (1984/5, Caroline)
AMONG THE LIVING (1987, Island)
I'M THE MAN (1987, Island)
STATE OF EUPHORIA (1988, Island)
PENIKUFESIN (1990, Island import)
PERSISTENCE OF TIME (1990, Island)
ATTACK OF THE KILLER B'S (1991, Island)

maybe some wrong

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: pw2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter Jason Ward)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Diamond Head
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:05:56 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Good question...
      For the last five years  I've been looking for shit by them, and
the only thing I've found is a compilation titled "Behold the
Beginning."  It's pretty good, 'specially if ya like "Am I Evil?", "The
Prince", and "Helpless".   Which  Metallica has covered.
                                                   Peter Ward
                                                      CMU
 
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From: donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: King Diamond's real name?
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:35:39 GMT

In article <LNZVRB13w165w@hale.cts.com> genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko) writes:
>noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Sep13.155555.11246@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia
>> >Anyone know Kign Diamond's real name? Or is "King Diamond" just a literal
>> >translation of his real name into English?
>> >
>> >philip
>> >
>> >
>
>i used to know it. i will ask a partner of mine to dig it up. it's a 
>weird danish name.
>-g
>
>HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
>genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   29-Sep-92 at 4:41p

Kim Bendixson. Not that weird, danish or not.

					--Judex--
.
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Ian Hill's bass sound
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:37:35 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

I was listening to JP's UNLEASHED IN THE EAST - LIVE IN JAPAN album, and I
notice that you can barely hear Ian Hill playing in the background. All you
hear is Tipton and Downing, and obviously Binks and Halford. I notice that 
even in PAINKILLER, ten years later (!!!!) you still can't hear Hill playing,
despite better recording and mixing equipment, etc. And how come he's never in
the spotlight? Say Judas Priest and I bet you most people will only know
Halford, Tipton, or Downing, maybe Hill but they don't know what Hill looks
like. It's hard to name the drummer since they've had so many and sometimes
they didn't even have one (session drummers) (I know it's Scott Travis this
time around). Is Hill more open in shows, those of you who've seen Priest? (I
missed them on the Painkiller tour with Testament and Megadeth because of
a Viennese ball to which I was invited. I would have rather gone to the Priest
show but my parents didn't let me). 

philip

PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Iron Maiden's new album
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:27:57 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi there!
Ok. To all you fans of Iron Maiden over there here are some questions.
1- What do you think about the new album "Fear Of The Dark"? I think it's much  much better then "No Prayer..." but the only good songs in it (except for "Be   Quick..." & "Wasting Love") are written by Harris who still writes in that good-old fashioned Maiden style. These guys have cahnged a lot.
2- What about Gers? He's good yeah but he doesn't match so well in the band (I  mean his music style).
3- Last. Does anybody there knoes why they had to change Derek Riggs for Mel    Grant? I liked Derek, he draws much better, the lines are softer.

And that's it for now.

Erik

Just a little poem I read in Spain on a toilet wall (if you know spanish well   you'll like it if not too bad)

"Si tu mierda es pintura
 Y tus dedos son pinceles
 Pinta el culo de tu padre
 Y no pintes las paredes"


-- 
Erik Campo campoe@JSP.UMontreal.Ca -- "Between the velvet lies
                                       There's a truth that's made of steel
                                       The vision never dies
                                       Life's a never ending wheel" R.J.Dio 1983
From: G.I.West@bradford.ac.uk (Graham West)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: King Diamond's real name?
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:56:38 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91670332@ccw310
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Noah Ruiz (noah@Cadence.COM) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep13.155555.11246@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
: >Anyone know Kign Diamond's real name? Or is "King Diamond" just a literal
: >translation of his real name into English?
: >
: >philip
: >
: >
:   could it be EDDIE MUNSTER........................
: 
:   noah

No. Actually it's Kim Bendix Peterson. I remember seeing it in an articlein
Metal Hammer magazine. Among others it had Axl Rose's real name. Bill Bailey.

		Graham

-- 
Graham West, University Of Bradford, UK   ....   g.i.west@bradford.ac.uk
"Red, crimson red, am I the invisible boy?" W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
From: med2062@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.E. Donnaruma)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Metallica and Wayne
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:08:26 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: med2062@ultb

In article <1992Sep28.082651.27126@ifi.uio.no> mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen) writes:
>
>
> Headbanger's Ball (Europe) yesterday was a Megadeth special, and it
> was pretty cool... In the 'Triple Thrash Treat' Megadeth selected
> N.I.N, The Almighty and Metallica (Enter Sandman). After Ellefson
> had selected Metallica's Enter Sandman, Mustaine said:
>
> 'Wayne has made that video twice before.'
>
> Which one are that?? I know Queen has a video with a similar
> band footage in it, but I don't know if 'Wayne' made that one...
>
    I think Mustaine was commenting on how Metallica has "Sold out" to
sell albums. (ie. The re-commercialization of that annoying Queen song)
And that Metallica might as well of made a song for the movie Wayne's
World.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:27:21 EDT
From: Kevin Polcovich <KAP118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: WIDOWMAKER

Anyone listen to the new and first WIDOWMAKER album? Dee Snyder leads with the
vocals, only with a band who knows how to play technical yet diverse and
original music. It is incredible!!!
       Anyone respond with comments.....And if anyone knows anything about the
band, tour dates, backround, etc., please let me know.
                                        Pitts. Pens rule...WIDOWMAKER wails!!!
                                              Later..KAP118
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From: rileyrm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Keywords: old singers
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:51:19 GMT

Distribution: world

In article <1992Sep27.175059.20534@news.columbia.edu>  
pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
> 
> >Hi there!
> >>Ok. To all you fans of Iron Maiden over there here are some
> >>questions.  1- What do you think about the new album "Fear Of The
> >>Dark"? I think it's much much better then "No Prayer..." but the only
> >>good songs in it (except for "Be Quick..." & "Wasting Love") are
> >>written by Harris who still writes in that good-old fashioned Maiden
> >>style. These guys have cahnged a lot.
> >
> >From what I read, it seems I am in a minority. I quite liked Seventh  
SOn &
> >No Prayer, but I just can't get into Fear of the Dark. It's just not  
like the
> >old stuff, and I don't like it as much. I prefer No Prayer to Fear of  
the Dark.
> SEVENTH SON I think is undeniably better than FEAR, but I think NO  
PRAYER was 
> not quite focused enough to be up to the normal Iron Maiden standards. 
> Consider the turbulent lineup when Dickinson and Smith left the band and
> Harris not knowing if Dickinson would ever come back or even why Smith  
took
> off (Maiden would have supported Smith's solo album even if he was still  
in
> the band). Plus teaching Gers all the old songs (I believe when Gers  
auditioned
> he had to learn "Children Of The Damned," "The Trooper" and "Iron  
Maiden" in
> one night and play it well for Murray the next day). Anyway, I find FEAR
> very focused on what they wanted to do, and it's the darkest album  
they've had
> ever, I guess. As far as attitude none of the other albums have the same  
kind 
> of feel to it. 
> 
> Would you think that if Dickinson had gone on his solo band with Gers  
and left
> Maiden for good that Harris would ask Di'anno and Stratton to come back?  
I'm
> still not sure why it is that Di'anno left the band. Some people say he  
was
> fired for smoking and drinking too much, thus killing his voice, and  
someone
> else told me he was having problems with his girlfriend or something  
like that.
> I don't have the 12 WASTED YEARS VHS, so I don't know Maiden's version  
of the
> story.
> 
> Also, if anyone has the FROM HERE TO ETERNITY VHS, how is it run? Is it  
like
> Def Leppard's HISTORIA with that stupid "silent movie" thing with the 
> Broderbund Print Shop (those of you who still have an Apple IIe or IIc)
> borders and word in the middle that are too blury to read? I hope not.
> 
> philip
> PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
> "On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready  
to be
> lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to  
cleanse
> the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
well, i heard that di'anno left the band because within a matter of week  
both his mother, father, and grandfather died.  it was too much for him to  
take.
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Dream Theater
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:37:11 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

I'm listening to my Dream Theater tape (thanx Judex), and now I regret missing
their concert last weekend here. My suitemate didn't want to go because he 
didn't know who they were (I keep running into people who don't like trying
new things. That sucks big time). And I don't want to go by myself (give me
a break, it's at night and I have to take the subway by myself?! No way. Not
in NYC.) I would rather see Dream Theater than Megadeth and Suicidal Tendencies
any day. The guy can sing, they have an awesome guitarist, awesome instrumental
players, everything. I have the IMAGES AND WORDS album. Is their other one
similar? This is really cool. Now they're one of my favorite bands and this is
one of my favorite recordings. 

Not that I don't want to see Megadeth or Suicidal, mind you. That should be an
awesome show, according to my suitemate who saw them two years ago on their
respective tours (I think he saw Megadeth, testament and Judas Priest together
and Suicidal Tendencies with whoever they were touring with back in 1990).

Nuf sed.

philip



PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Venom bootleg
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:16:37 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

I have this Venom bootleg from Kabjdo Recordings & Filmworks entitled THE WAY
OF THE TIGER. It was recorded at the same show as EINE KLEINE NACHTMUSIK (well,
the first half of it), but if you happen to see both at the same place, get 
EINE KLEINE. Venom produced EKM, so it sounds good. TWOTT sounds like the guy
recorded it via microcassette whilst moshing in front of the amps. It's not
too bad towards the end, and actually sounds much clearer if you turn it up
(I need to turn it up half way on my stereo to get the clarity that I have on
EKM maybe 1/5 of the way). 

Here's a track listing:			Compare to EINE KLEINE

Too Loud For The Crowd			Intro
Black Metal				Too Loud (For The Crowd)
Die Hard				7 Gates Of Hell
Nightmare				Leave Me In Hell
Countess Bathory			Nightmare
Seven Gates Of Hell			Countess Bathory
(Bass Solo)				Die Hard
Teachers Pet / Poison			Schitzo
Buried Alive				Guitar Solo Mantas
Don't Burn The Witch			In Nomine Satanas
In Nomine Satanus			Witching Hour
Welcome To Hell				Black Metal
Warhead					The Chanting Of The Priests
Guitar Solo				Satanachist
Schizo					Fly Trap
Satanachrist				Warhead
Leave Me In Hell			Buried Alive
Bloodlust				Love Amongst The Dead
Witching Hour				Bass Solo Cronos
					Welcome To Hell
					Bloodlust

Aside from the fact that no one seems to be able to spell Venom songs the
same way more than once or twice (note "Satanchist" or "Satanachrist,"
"In Nomina Satanus" or whatever they have), EINE KLEINE has much better songs
and much better production (produced by Cronos). They both cost the same here
I guess. Well, I got mine for $10.00, but because the guy at the record store
said no one wanted to buy it and it's been on his shelf since it was first
released, so I guess I got a heck of a discount. He told me it should have been
full import price. However, TWOTT is good for archival interest.

And those of you having fun with my acronym, get your mind out of the gutter.
	<|-)=  (well, it is in the Venom spirit, I guess. I just noticed what
	I had done with the album's initials.)

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
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From: graikund@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Gitesh Raikundalia)
Subject: And Justice For All lyrics
Keywords: Metallica
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 10:08:56 GMT

G'day
	Anybody know the lyrics to And Justice for All??
							Gitesh
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