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From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Upstate
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:57:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.074021.18509@husc3.harvard.edu> goodridg@husc8.harvard.edu (Andrew Goodridge) writes:
>>
>Well, Westchester County is still the best county in the state.
>
> - A Chappaqua Resident
> 

'... best county in the state'?!?!?  for *WHAT*?  perhaps for a location for a
toxic-waste-dump? or for disposal of low-level-nuclear-waste?  downstate will
soon lose Cuomo's guardianship and stop being able to dump its garbage
upstate...  I say continue the major boundary between NY and Pennsylvania all
the way to the Atlantic and give that triangular piece left from the
re-bordering to New Jersey... they deserve it...

Walt K.

	- a militant upstater, and proud of it...


Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Any Oswegonians Out There?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:34:42 GMT

About fifteen years ago, I spent some time at SUCO. Any students out
there who can give me an (email) report on how things are?
				-edg

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From: edp@sneaks.kodak.com (Ed Pendzik -- Sun Consulting)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:46:56 GMT
In-reply-to: mcmahon@owlnet.rice.edu's message of 16 Dec 92 18:19:51 GMT


>How about Mark's Diner downtown.
> The cheeseburger special (was) $2.65.  WITH fries, mac salad and a
>small drink.

where downtown?

	Ed Pendzik
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Upstate
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:33:09 GMT

In article <67k29rc@rpi.edu>, ernesm@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matthew W Ernest) writes:
|> 
|> Well... where I come from, Upstate is anything that is completely north os
|> Pennsylvania, which puts Kingston Downstate. Northern New York is above the
|> Thruway, between the Capital Distict and Syracuse, and The North Country
|> starts variously at Watertown, KIngston Ont., or other places.
 
 Hm, around here the North Country is everything between Adirondack Park 
and the Canadian border. (Beyond that is, of course, the Great White North.)
Don't forget the Southern Tier, which seems to be everything west of 
Amsterdam and south of the Erie Canal.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: ean@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Naratil)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp., Valley Forge Labs, Paoli, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:30:02 GMT

In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:
>
>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?
>
Sure have,  it's somewhere between Norway and Ohio.   (:> (But true)


--
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Amateur Packet: w3bnr@N3LA.#epa.PA.USA.NA            ean@VFL.Paramax.COM

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: kasprj@operators.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Just a little piece of trivia...
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:33:26 GMT

In article <johnsh-171292033806@mustang.stu.rpi.edu>, johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
|> In article <BzDG0H.DDD@cmcl2.nyu.edu>, obrien@acf3.nyu.edu (Your Worst
|> Nightmare) wrote:
|> > 
|> > Did you know that if you travelled from Battery Park on Broadway,
|> > going uptown (though it runs downtown after 59th Street, Columbus
|> > Circle), you could travel all the way to Albany without making one
|> > turn?
|> 
|> Yes.  But why would anyone WANT to?
 
 What'd be even scarier is doing this in the opposite direction, which
I've experienced part of. My father once drove us ("us" being my mother,
brother, myself and my girlfriend) from Westchester County to downtown
Manhattan by driving over some obscure bridge in the Bronx and driving
down the entire length of Broadway "because it'd be neat to do that".
(For those who know me, you can see where I inherited my tendency to 
make silly and sometimes dangerous explorations.) The scenery along the 
way was, well, quite interesting to say the least.
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 ___/  | Jim Kasprzak, computer operator @ RPI, Troy, NY, USA
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      ====  e-mail: kasprj@rpi.edu or kasprzak@mts.rpi.edu
From: sullivan@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mike Sullivan - CSG)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Adirondacks
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: sullivan@cbmvax.UUCP (Mike Sullivan - CSG)
Organization: MOS Technology, Valley Forge, PA

From: pnilsson@dali.abo.fi (Patrik Nilsson INF) 
> I spent a year at St. Lawrence University ........
>
>The culture up there wasn't that diverse, but there were great connections
>to Ottawa and Montreal. Especially Montreal had a lot to offer! 

No culture in Nothern New York ? Aw come on, there were 4 colleges in
an area of 11 miles between Canton and Potsdam (culture = bars). You 
could always catch pee-wee hockey on tv in the winter.

There was the Frederick Remington museum around Ogdensburg. Also there were 
other museums in the Adirondacks. 

Don forget there were bowling lanes in the area (sure sign of civilization).

Mike Sullivan -- 
cct - alum  -- Now Clarkson University
sullivan@commodore.com
My opinions are mine, not my employer's, not my wife's or my parakeet's.



Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: doom@elaine36.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner)
Subject: Re: FIRST POST!!!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
	<16DEC199200461509@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
	<1992Dec17.000606.20559@news.columbia.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:41:47


> UGGGGHHHHH!   Alt.culture.long-island is too scary to contemplate.....

Whaddaya mean?  There's the New Community Cinema in
Huntington, and then there's... uh. 

Anyway, I don't know what counts as culture, but I always
thought that New Paltz was a pretty cool little town.  Some
decently hot Buffalo Wings, a nice vege restaurant (the Wild
Flower Cafe), a climbing store, and close proximity to the
'Gunks, with which one needs no culture (though this gets
into rec.climbing territory).  


Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
Keywords: Kingston
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:50:31 GMT

In article <BzDAC9.6Es@cs.psu.edu> jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.125647.7396@nosc.mil> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
>>Nope, absolutely nothing south of the Governor Thomas E. Dewey Thruway is
>>'Upstate'.  Oh, forget the 'San Diego' address... I'm a Roman.

>>Walt K.

>Well, actually, the Gov. Dewey Thruway turns *south* at Albany, and runs to
>NYC (Interstate 87).  It's only Interstate 90 from Ripley (at the PA border)
>to Albany (plus the Berkshire Extension that runs to the Mass Pike).

>-Jeremy Hall
>-Native of Syracuse, NY

Yeah, I forgot about that fact that there's that North-South portion of the
Thruway leading to/from the blight of the state...  Re-word my assertion above
to read '... I-90 portion of the Governor Thomas E. Dewey...'... never
travelled it, never will (except under duress...).

Walt K.
-- militant Roman
From: aj@ucs.orst.edu (AJ)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Free Usenet Access in Oregon
Date: 15 Dec 1992 00:58:24 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

In article <06FVBAB2@cc.swarthmore.edu> jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson) writes:
>bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
>>  I am especially interested in knowing if Eugene or Corvallis
>>  have free or very cheap bbs for Usenet.
>>  thanks.  
>>  mike
>
>Don't know about BBSs, but if all you want is e-mail and Usenet just get an
>account on Oregon State's public access mainframes (in Corvallis, that is).
>$5/month.

Keep in mind, you need to live in Linn/Benton County to get an account.

-aj
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas)
Subject: Re: Free Usenet Access in Oregon
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:42:50 GMT

bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:

>   I am interested in finding out if there are any free access
> bbs systems in Oregon which offer the major newsgroups plus
> e mail and where they are located.

> I have heard of one called  PDaXs with phone 503-220-0636
> and would like to know what city this is located in.

I believe 220 is a Portland prefix.
Moreover, PDX is Portland's airport city code, so my guess is the name
is a bit of a pun on Portland.  Sum up the implications any way you like.

- Tamara
  stephas@dgp.toronto.edu
From: aj@ucs.orst.edu (AJ)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Spruce Goose sitting duck in Vancouver, Wa.
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:38:39 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu


Well, since there was talk about this earlier.....

(VANCOUVER, Washington)-- It appears the Spruce Goose will be grounded
for the winter in Vancouver, Washington. The huge flying boat, which was
built for Howard Hughes, is headed for McMinnville. The plane arrived
during the summer drought and the river levels on the Willamette were
too low to haul the plane upriver. Crews had planned to move the plane
last week after the river levels went up, but high winds delayed those
plans. Now, the river levels are too high, and the plane won't be able
to clear the bridge at Highway 219.

-aj

Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: apm4366@cc.utah.edu (Miaullis, Aaron Paul)
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:21 MST  

In article <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes...
{jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson) writes:
{ 
{>dockd@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Dion Dock) writes:
{ 
{ 
{Out of curiosity:  I've never heard of another institution which has *only*
{graduate programs, and no undergraduates.  Does anyone know of others?


	Scripps Institute in San Diego, California is a pure graduate 
institution.  It also is built on money (and I mean $100 bill wallpaper).


Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: mcginnis-john@cs.yale.edu (John McGinnis)
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Organization: Yale University
	<1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
	<1gost4INNom6@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> <1992Dec17.144611.28112@inel.gov>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:34:08 GMT



In article <1992Dec17.144611.28112@inel.gov> dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose) writes:
> In article <1gost4INNom6@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury) writes:
> > 
> > In article <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes:
> > >
> > >Salem is less than an hour's drive from Corvallis.  Willamette offers M.B.A.
> > >and J.D. degrees.  The law degree is their only doctoral program.
> > >
> >  Does Willamette offer a joint J.D./M.B.A. program?  I am fairly sure
> > that I will be returning to Oregon to get my law degree, and I would be
> > interested in a joint degree program.... While we are on the subject,
> > would anyone in the know (lawyers, judges, ???) care to comment on the
> > quality of the various law schools in Oregon?
> > -- 
> Unless things have changed since I was last in Oregon, University of Oregon
> has the best if not the only law school in the state while Oregon State
> University has the best College of Business.  This makes a joint J.D./M.B.A.
> program not likely from any of those two universities.  Portland State Un.
> or one of the private schools might offer one but a College Directory at
> the Yale library would be able to tell you that if no one else responds on
> this group.
> 

Well, let me first state that I don't know anything about joint degree programs
at any of the schools in Oregon.  But I do remember what my mom told me about
the various law schools in Oregon (back when I though I wanted to be a lawyer.
Fortunately, I wised up...  :-) ).  Anyway, there are three law schools in
Oregon.  The worst of the bunch is the UofO law school.  The second best is the
Willamette Law School, and the best is the Northwest School of Law (part of
Lewis and Clark College).  Obviously, best is relative - none of these schools
are Yale Law level, but they aren't that bad.  This info may be a little out of
date or even a little biased, as my mom used to work for Lewis and Clark, but
hey, that's they way it goes...

- John
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From: stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Joy is....
Date: 18 Dec 1992 23:37:43 -0500
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

Joy is finishing the semester and going home to Oregon!  You can't
believe the stupid grin that refuses to leave my face this time every
year - the time when I pack up my suitcase, triple-check my plane
reservations, and go to sleep knowing that tomorrow I will be landing in
Eugene...  YES!  Nothing matches the feeling of coming home to the best
state in entire damned country.  Amen.

-- 
   ______________________________________________________
   | Travis Stansbury, Yale '94  || 2358 Yale Station   |
   | travis@minerva.cis.yale.edu || New Haven, CT 06520 |
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson)
Subject: Re: am I suited for Oregon???
Reply-To: jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson)
Organization: Swarthmore College
Distribution: alt.culture.oregon
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:52:32 GMT

sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles) writes:
> 
> 
> Okay....
> I have been reading this group pretty avidly since it appeared on my
> list because the one time I went through Oregon I loved it and I have an
> interest in moving there "when I grow up", which hopefully will be in
> about one year.
> 
> So, my question is this:
> 	If I am against guns 
> 	If I am pro-homosexual rights
> 	If I am pro-environment (but understand the ins and outs of 
> 		the logging situation)
> 	If I am hoping to teach English/Theatre/Speech
> 	If I am hoping to NOT face racism (esp of the neo-nazi kind)
> 	If I shy away from organized religion (personal preference not
> 		to be pushed on others)
> 	If I tend to be conservatively liberal (NOT liberally
> 		conservative ;)
> 
> WILL I FIT IN???????
> 
> (btw...I love trees, green and rain....I am from New Mexico you
> understand...)
> 
> Thanks for any response
> 
> Susan

Try out Corvallis, Portland, or Eugene -- people are generally pro-environment,
anti-OCA, non-Fundamentalist, etc.  Good public school districts, too
(if that's where you're wanting to teach).  It sounds like you'd probably be
happy in any of those places.  Oh, yeah -- Ashland is also awesome, and if
you want to be around good theatre they've got the Oregon Shakespeare Festival
there.

Good luck!

-Justin

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From: tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:35:36 GMT
Subject: Re: am I suited for Oregon???
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon

I think you would fit in anywhere, young Susan.
From: stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:41:24 GMT
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes:
>
>Salem is less than an hour's drive from Corvallis.  Willamette offers M.B.A.
>and J.D. degrees.  The law degree is their only doctoral program.
>
 Does Willamette offer a joint J.D./M.B.A. program?  I am fairly sure
that I will be returning to Oregon to get my law degree, and I would be
interested in a joint degree program.... While we are on the subject,
would anyone in the know (lawyers, judges, ???) care to comment on the
quality of the various law schools in Oregon?
-- 
   ______________________________________________________
   | Travis Stansbury, Yale '94  || 2358 Yale Station   |
   | travis@minerva.cis.yale.edu || New Haven, CT 06520 |
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson)
Subject: Re: Free Usenet Access in Oregon
Reply-To: jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson)
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:16:20 GMT

bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:
>  I am especially interested in knowing if Eugene or Corvallis
>  have free or very cheap bbs for Usenet.
>  thanks.  
>  mike

Don't know about BBSs, but if all you want is e-mail and Usenet just get an
account on Oregon State's public access mainframes (in Corvallis, that is).
$5/month.

-Justin
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas)
Subject: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:45:55 GMT

jpaulso1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Justin Gram Paulson) writes:

>dockd@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Dion Dock) writes:

>> >Educational opportunities. Which universities are located near Portland and
>> >Corvallis. Do they offer either doctorate degrees in business or law
>> >degrees?
>> 
>> Portland has: Reed College (LIBERAL arts), Portland State Univ, Oregon Grad.
>> 	Center, University of Portland, Lewis and Clark, and in the burbs are
>> 	Pacific, Linfield
>> Corvallis has Oregon State Univ, and the Univ of Oregon is 40mi away in Eugene.
>> 
>> As for doctorates, I think PSU, U of O, Lewis and Clark, Wilammette (in Salem)
>> 	and some of the other private schools offer doctoral degrees.

>For law, I hear Willamette (in Salem) and U of O are pretty good...I'm not
>sure about their doctoral programs, though.

Salem is less than an hour's drive from Corvallis.  Willamette offers M.B.A.
and J.D. degrees.  The law degree is their only doctoral program.

The Oregon Graduate Centre (pardon me, Center) (or is it Oregon Graduate 
Institute now?  I've lost track of the name changes)  is purely a techno-
logical institution, to the best of my knowledge.  They give excellent 
degrees in scientific fields, but I highly doubt they offer a law degree, 
or even business, though that might be fractionally more likely.

Out of curiosity:  I've never heard of another institution which has *only*
graduate programs, and no undergraduates.  Does anyone know of others?

- Tamara
  stephas@dgp.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: coryc@sequent.com (Cory Carpenter)
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:21:19 GMT

In article <1gq7f1INNkhh@pith.uoregon.edu> joe@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver x6-1720) writes:
>In article <1gost4INNom6@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec16.134555.3567@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes:
>|> >
>|> >Salem is less than an hour's drive from Corvallis.  Willamette offers M.B.A.
>|> >and J.D. degrees.  The law degree is their only doctoral program.
>|> >
>|>  Does Willamette offer a joint J.D./M.B.A. program?  I am fairly sure
>|> that I will be returning to Oregon to get my law degree, and I would be
>|> interested in a joint degree program.... While we are on the subject,
>|> would anyone in the know (lawyers, judges, ???) care to comment on the
>|> quality of the various law schools in Oregon?
>
>If you're willing to go a little further south, the U of O in Eugene might
>work out for a joint degree program. Specifically...
>
>The University of Oregon offers a joint MBA/JD program -- if you have
>specific questions about the U of O law school or the fit between law and

	[remainder deleted]

I was recently told that U of O is in danger of losing or has already
lost accreditation for its law program.  Can anyone confirm this?

-coryc

-- 
|     >> Disclaimer: I speak for Sequent only in our hardware manuals <<     |
| Cory R. Carpenter, Tech Writer |  The world hadn't ever had so many moving |
| Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. |  parts or so few labels.                  |
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon

OK, that's it... I have dead stickers, NRA stickers, Motocross stickers,
Punk Rock stickers, Politically Correct stickers, Politically incorrect 
stickers, anti-accordian stickers(play an accordian-go to jail..joke from 
a local music store), Zappa for President stickers, Share the road with 
Motorcycles stickers, San Diego Padres stickers, skull stickers, skateboard
stickers, the OB sticker (Ocean Beach in San Diego) common in the southland,
I have little kid pull-out and stick stickers, KOME and KFJC stickers, 
TSOL and Black Flag stickers...

I might as will just drive down to the police station and turn myself in!!!
I wont matter what state I live in!!!



"90 percent of everything is crap!"-Theodore Sturgeon (Sturgeon's Law)
all know disclaimers apply, including those yet unknown


Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes)
Subject: Re: PDX/Corvallis doctoral programs (was Re: Oregon Questions)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:31:04 GMT

In article <1gost4INNom6@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury) writes:

>While we are on the subject,
>would anyone in the know (lawyers, judges, ???) care to comment on the
>quality of the various law schools in Oregon?
>   | Travis Stansbury, Yale '94  || 2358 Yale Station   |

The law schools that I know of in Oregon all have their
specialties. The law school at Lewis and Clarke seems to be the
best for general contract/tort law, while the law schools at U of
O and Willamette concentrate on environmental and international
law respectively. All three are pretty well respected among legal
professionals, and get good ratings from the ABA. 

Given Measure 5, the UO Law School may be seriously hurting in a
few years, though. It had some leadership and minority hiring
problems when I was at UO (83-88), but according to Old Oregon,
they seem to have worked that out to everyone's satisfaction.



-- 
David Boyes
dboyes@rice.edu