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From: isc@panix.com (David Koosis)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: WANTED: C & OS/2 Programmer, short-term contract NYC (recruiter)
Summary: ISC Consultants seeks C OS/2 Programmer for NYC Contract (recruiter)
Keywords: C OS/2 NYC JOB WORK CONTRACT RECRUITER
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:13:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

ISC Consultatns, a NYC recruiter, seeks a highly proficient C & OS/2
programmer for an immediate short-term contract at a NYC-based
pharmaceutical company.

Interested parties should call David Koosis at 212/477-8800.
Fax/email resume to: 212/477-9895,  dkoosis@mcimail.com,  isc@panix.com
Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:4061 misc.jobs.misc:7632
From: saab@netcom.com (Albert Saab)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Freelance Consulting telemarketing needed
Keywords: CONSULTANTS, TELEMARKETING
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:13:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


  Freelance "Consulting Services Telemarketer/Sales rep" needed to help a 
computer consulting firm market it's services.  Work from home on a part-time
or full time basis with very good commissions.

 Must have:

  - Knowledge of the consulting business
  - Technical background helpfull
  - Must be able to work alone with no supervision.

The work involves helping our firm in the placement of it's consultants through
either telemarketing, or simply referrals and contacts.  The comission is 
$5/hour/consultant.  So, for example:  if you help us place FOUR consultants and
those consultants work for a year, you would have made $40,000.00

Call 510-438-3135 (PAGER) leave message or punch in number.  DO NOT RESPOND BY 
E_MAIL.


Thank you.
From: laurad@kenda.mv.com (Laura dos Santos)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: ***Concept Modeling/Artificial Intelligence Contract in Mid West***Rec.
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:34:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: KENDA Systems, Inc.




Greetings, 
 
KENDA Systems, Inc. is an international software organization, specializing
in placing quality computer consultants for a wide variety of companies
throughout North America and Europe.       

Currently, I am looking for a senior level consultant to perform a 3+ month 
contract in the Mid West.  The qualified candidate will possess a strong 
background in artificial intelligence and will have solid experience in Concept 
Modeler.  

Please, only reply to this messsage if you fit the description.  For 
all other inquiries please respond to postmaster@Kenda.mv.com.

For immediate consideration, please call me per below.

Regards,
Laura
Laura dos Santos				Telephone: (603) 898-7884
laurad@kenda.mv.com				Address:   KENDA Systems, Inc.
						           1 Stiles Rd.
						           Salem, NH 03079
From: jkenton@ksr.com (Jeff Kenton)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Problem
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:38:25 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA

In article <1617@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> emolinar@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Elizabeth Molinaro) writes:
.. 
..     Hi.  I'm in need of a little advice.
.. 
..     Scenario:  I am a writer, writing on contract (through an
..                agency, which performs payroll, but to whom I
..                owe no allegiance.)
.. 
..                The company which provides me with an office
..                and pc pays me x.  The agency gets x + y.
.. 
..                The department for which I now work would like
..                to "hire me out" within the company for x + y 
..                + z; that is the normal departmental hire-out
..                rate for regular full-time employees.
.. 
..                I feel that this is, perhaps, not quite fair.

Are you getting a fair (or at least acceptable) rate for your time? If so,
it shouldn't matter much how much others are taking off the top.  Also,
you need to remember that internal hire-outs often happen at funny rates,
using "funny money".  This may seem weird, but it's the same kind of 
accounting which lets them justify bringing in an outsider like you at
what appears to be a rate higher than salaried employees get.

On the other hand, if you can find your own work, do it.  It will take
some effort, especially at the start.  Get on the phone (for hours at
a time).  It will be worth the effort.  Otherwise, you will always have
someone getting a share of the work you do.


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-		Jeff Kenton -- jkenton@world.std.com                   -
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Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:4105 misc.jobs.offered:13591
From: Lance_Charles_Rowan@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Contract Jobs in San Diego (recruiter)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:24:02 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


AS/400 PROGRAMMERS- PERMANENT JOB IN SAN DIEGO, CALIF                  
                 

Mini-Systems Associates has an immediate need for an AS/400 programmer
with a minimum of 4 years data processing experience, 1 or more years
directly on the AS/400.  A background in inventory and warehouse 
distribution applications would be a plus, as well as AS/400 to PC
interface experience.  Permanent job opportunity in beautiful Southern
California!  $ 35-40K DOE, Please call Brian "Ski Bum" Colety at
Systems Associates (619) 675-7895., fax @ (619) 675-7899. 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jmalis@world.std.com (Judee Malis)
Subject: Statistics, PC; Randolph, MA; broker 1099
Summary: Statistics, PC; Randolph, MA; broker 1099
Keywords: STATISTICS
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:34:58 GMT

Biomedical company in Randolph, MA needs a consultant to help them use a 
statistical graphing software package for the PC.  You need to learn the
package, use it to set up an environment for them, train them in its use and
then provide ongoing support.

For more info, contact Judee Malis at Prosoft Consulting: 617-489-3055.
You can fax a resume or leave a message to the above number at any time.

Please do not leave mail.

This position is paid on a 1099 basis and the rate is VERY reasonable.
From: rem@public.BTR.COM (Robert E. Maas  rem@btr.com)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: A question on legal rights of software
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:19:12 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

<<...  if you write a nifty menuing system, or some other slick
algorigthm, what happens when you go to your next client/contract? If
you re-write the setup from memory, or take code samples from one
contract to make the next contract go faster, does this constitute
copyright violation?>>

This is just my personal opinion, but it seems unethical to get paid by
someone to do work for them, regardless of whether W-2 or 1099, whether
employee or contract, then claim you own that work and re-sell that
same work to somebody else, especially if you are charging your normal
rate for the hours you spend on it.

I see two ethical ways around this problem:

(1) Produce the part you intend to share with multiple customers BEFORE
you start your contract, and give a demo of your already-working
program during the negotiations for the contract. The contract would
then be for customizing the code, plus a portion of recouping your
development time, say 10% of your normal rate for that development.
Then any customizations would belong solely to your customer, while the
base product would be licensed to them but owned by you. You can then
give a demo of the original base product, not the customized version,
to potential future customers, to line up additional contracts with
them.

(2) Make it clear from the start that you want to retain ownership of
some of your work for possible resale to other clients, and charge
accordingly, 10% or somesuch of your normal rate for the part you
intend to keep, and 100% for those portions that you will totally
relinquish rights to. Good modular programming would keep different
aspects of the program in different files, so if you remember to switch
your stopwatch to different channels depending on which file you're
working on at any time you may be able to do all the accounting
correctly.

Has anybody actually tried either approach? Was it successful?
From: clifto@indep1.UUCP (Cliff Sharp)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: A question on legal rights of software
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:29:18 GMT
Organization: as little as possible

In article <5NOV199208041521@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov> olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) writes:
>How ethical/legal (I know, oxymoron!)  would it be to have the code disable
>itself if the final payment was not received?  As long as the customer data
>remains intact, is there anything illegal about doing this, similar to what
>the Brigette Fonda character did in Single White Female?

   The Fidonet echoes are full of people who've done just that, and found that
the recalcitrant customer was suddenly willing to fulfill their contractual
obligations without court action or attorneys.  Warning: a few have mentioned
having experiences where attorneys contacted them, and they ended up settling
for a fraction of the amount due simply to avoid attorney's fees, court costs,
and the cost of a lawsuit; others have gone the whole route and let other
consultants in the area know what happened (via Fidonet, etc.) and made sure
that any further work done for the subject company was done with an ironclad
contract and advance payment in noncancellable forms (cashier's check, etc.).
   Many of the better ideas I've seen in these posts involved multiplying the
time of the customer's payment ("we'll send it in a month") by three, and when
the payment never arrived the customer was apprised of the fact that a permanent
copy could be had if they'd just keep the months-old agreement they made in
the first place.
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host)
Subject: International Bodyshops
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:24:59 GMT

One of the front stories on today's Washington Post was an
article descripting a business visa abuse.

Basicly business visas are used for foreign nationals to do work
in the US but the arrangements are made so they are paid in
their native curriencies so they do not need to conform to US
labor laws (minimum wage, unemployment insurance, etc).

They pay the foreign nationals from their home country so
a Ukranian programmer (the example given in the newspaper)
was being paid $20 a week and working 7 days a week.
(He was such a good worker they decided to give a raise to
$40 a week, real nice guys).

I have no objections to foreigners working in this country
(some of my friends are foreigners on work visas) but this
type of scheme is clearly abusive.  The business visas
(which are much easier to get than work visas) are intended
for temporary business and specialized personel setting up
foreign equipment.

Supposedly this has become a common practice; a co-worker who
is a member of an independent consultant organization said
that he has heard of this several times at his meetings.

How common is this for I never heard of it before?

-- 

                      Glenn E. Host - Reston, VA
Very grateful guest of Openage - the best SCO service shop in the area
************* my views represent no one - not even myself. ****************
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: dai@netcom.com (Satyendra Dhingra)
Subject: contractor available
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:49:58 GMT

I am looking for full/part time consulting 
assignemntment. If you have an opening that
fits my background, I will aprreciate hearing 
about it. I am giving a very short summary of 
my background here, I can send a detailed copy
of my resume on request,

experience : 8 years of industry experince, including
			 experience in window systems, toolkits, Graphical
			 user interfaces and Multimedia Applications.

os : unix, thoroughly familiar with SunOS/Solaris, Ultrix

languages : c, c++

window systems : xview/openlook, sunview, xlib, Motif 
software summary : 

Projects :
   - Multimedia server 
   - Multimedia authoring / playback tools
   - debugger front end (dbxtool) and case tools 
   - Secure OS/window system (B1 security)
   - User interface for a medical imaging system
   - Server for controlling medical imaging hardware
   - User Interface for a CAE system
   - UI toolkit implementation
   - User Interface for EDIF schematic browser
   - Schematic Editor
   - Netlist compilers.

 1. Over 2 years of experience in development of multimedia
	application (audio) and enabling technology (multimedia
	server and libraries).

 2. lot of experience in development of client/server 
	software

 3. experienced in multithreaded applications

 4. extensive experience in unix systems programming
	including ipc mechanisms, socket, pipe, shared mem,
	semaphores, TLI, RPC, Tooltalk etc. 

 5. have my own sun machine that I can use for
	development tasks.

I have excellent references available from the 
the previously completed contract assignments

full resume available on request

Satyendra Dhingra
email : dai@netcom.com
phone#: 408-378-0146
fax   : 408-378-9557
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: A question on legal rights of software
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:03:06 GMT
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting

In article 2225@indep1.UUCP, clifto@indep1.UUCP (Cliff Sharp) writes:
>In article <1d6u90INNied@leo.asc.slb.com> hargrove@nobelium.asc.slb.com (Jim Hargrove) writes:
>>Usually, the copyright to the software belongs to the client based on a common law principle of "shop right." This can be changed by contract. 
>
>   Not as I understand it; the copyright belongs to the writer, unless otherwise
>agreed upon by contract, but if you use the client's facilities AT ALL to do
>the software, then they have "shop rights" to use the software for their own
>purposes as they wish.  The difference I'm trying to point out is for those
>who manage to get to do the work at home or at their own office; if no
>customer premises are used to do the work, the "shop rights" don't exist.

Copyright is vested in the author except in the case when the person is creating
a "work for hire".  This means that the writings of a newspaper reporter are owned
by the paper, not by the reporter, even if the reporter is not using any of the 
facilities of the paper.  The same holds for developing software.  This is not
dependent on whether you use the customer's facilities or not.

Moral is: put it in writing.  Litigating who owns what on the basis of "work for
hire" vs "work of authorship" can be much more than the cost of the software.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: clifto@indep1.UUCP (Cliff Sharp)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: A question on legal rights of software
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:40:39 GMT
Organization: as little as possible

In article <1992Nov2.194624.10337@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> gao@eecg.toronto.edu (Xiangyang Gao) writes:
>Initially I thought the copyright of the software or firmware
>you are hired as a consultant to develop belongs to your client. 
>However, one day I was told by a well-informed gentleman that
>in most cases the copyright belongs to the consultant! 
>What is the convention of the industry?

   The convention of the industry is to make sure that all such matters are
in writing, in the contract signed between the consultant [organization] and
the client.  I believe [note: I am NOT an attorney] that I have seen posts
which indicate that the software is owned by the person writing it or the
company for which he works (if ordained by contract), but if he does it on
the client's machinery the client has "shop rights" which enable him to make
any use of the software he wishes to make.
   As an independent consultant, I almost always mark the software I write
for their proprietary purposes with a copyright indicating their ownership.
However, if I do incorporate any routines I've taken the time, trouble and
effort to write on my own, I mark it "Portions Copyright (C) 19xx, Clifton
T. Sharp, Jr.  All rights reserved."  This makes sure that I can get paid
for all the effort I've expended on writing subroutines, libraries, classes,
etc. during the time I'm not actually billing a client.  I've expanded that
into setting those subroutines, etc. into separate files, marked with my
own copyright notice and no other, and #including them as needed, so that
there's no ambiguity about who owns what routines.
   Hope that helps.

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: paul@unitek.com
Subject: MS-Windows Contract (N. Cal)
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: MAC, C, Application Porting
Organization: Unitek Systems
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:03:59 GMT

                  Immediate Contract Opportunity

Unitek Systems, a Software Consulting House, in Nothern California, 
has a contract opportunity for a DOS-Windows programmer.  This is a  
2-3 months contract to work on our client's site in Santa Clara.

Requirements:  Minimum 1-2 Years of C Programming and familiarity with 
DLL programming.

For immediate consideration please call, Fax or email your resume
to Paul Afshar at:

         Fax: (510) 790-2276               Unitek Systems                 
         Tel: (510) 795-2878            5845 Jarvis Ave. #150         
      E-mail: paul@unitek.com             Newark, CA 94560           






Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: barakam@infonode.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam)
Subject: A tax question 
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:40:40 GMT

I have day-job, and also have a support contract that could pay me eigher
monthly or annually.  My question is which would be better for tax filing and
in both cases how should I file taxes.  I am new to this process but have
an idea that I should probably be filing a tax form quarterly.  Any information
as to the pros and cons of doing taxes in this situation would be well
appreciated.

Sreedhar Barakam
srb@barakam.b30.ingr.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: A question on legal rights of software
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:51:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.032804.25816@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> timk@tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Tim Kuehn) writes:
>The problem with this though is if you write a nifty menuing system, or 
>some other slick algorigthm, what happens when you go to your next 
>client/contract? If you re-write the setup from memory, or take code 
>samples from one contract to make the next contract go faster, does 
>this constitute copyright violation? 

It's certainly ugly isn't.  It's becoming especially tricky if you do work
for people/companies that are rivals in some (lucrative) market.

>My personal feeling is that, to avoid such problems, I'll give the client 
>a non-exclusive license of one kind or another while I retain "ownership" 
>of the SW. This way they can do whatever they want within the realms of 
>whatever licensing arrangement you make, and as a contractor I don't 
>have to worry about future legal entaglements over possibly re-using the 
>code.

That's a great solution for all sides (IMO anyways :-) but many companies
think of consultants as being temporary employees.  They are under the
(false) impression that they can treat like a slave but not compensate you
for it.  This is particularly obnoxious in the realm of ownership issues.

I'd try for the non-exclusive license agreement.  Either way you should be
keeping a detailed log of what you've done, when you did it and for whom it
was done.  Log books can be considered as evidence in court.  There's a
couple of Nolo Press books on many of these types of legal issues.

Hope this helps,
		John
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: Eli.Mantel@launchpad.unc.edu (Eli Mantel)
Subject: MO: Easel (recruiter)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:50:39 GMT

                     work location: Missouri
                  estimated length: 1 year
                skill requirements: Easel
 
The above information is all I have about this assignment.  If you have 
experience with Easel and are interested in this assignment, please send
your resume to:
                email: eli.mantel@bbs.oit.unc.edu
                       Please indicate position #MO1101 in the Subject line.
           U. S. mail: Eli Mantel (MO1101)
                       100 Wyatts Pond Lane
                       Cary, NC 27513
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