From: dlhanson@nap.amoco.com (David L. Hanson)
Subject: Re: How to protect your family from the State
Organization: These are my opinions.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:56:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.012131.48991@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
>In article <1ia98sINNs55@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (
Paula Burch) writes:>|> 
>|> In article <dlhanson.26.726174156@nap.amoco.com>, dlhanson@nap.amoco.com 
>|> (David L. Hanson) writes:
>|> > This was posted to the home-ed-politics mailing list a few weeks ago (not
>|> > by me). I believe that it contains valuable information to help all parents
>|> > to protect their family from the State. 
>|> 
>|> [amazing work of paranoia omitted]
>|> 
>|> *WHAT* is this guy trying to hide? What is he *doing* to his kids, that he's 
>|> so uptight about the idea of allowing any outsiders to see what goes on in 
>|> his home? Come on, normal folks don't worry so much about being caught that
>|> they write (or copy) many paragraphs on the subject!
>|> 
>|> It makes you wonder, doesn't it?
>|> 
>
>I don't understand you.  I read the posting you omitted and
>didn't find it particularly paranoid.  
>
>Many people don't admit random outsiders to their home.  Would
>you allow me to just come and "see what goes on at your home"?
>To me, it sounded like a reminder to people who normally
>don't open their homes to strangers not to be intimidated
>into making an exception if the stranger claims to represent
>an authority like the police or a state agency.
>
>Remember this was copied from a mailing list for people
>who homeschool children.  I would imagine that such people
>are doing something non-mainstream, and that as a result
>they receive a disproportionate amount of complaints and
>official harrassment.  I don't homeschool my kids, so
>it's not for me to judge whether it's paranoid for
>someone who does to worry about specific kinds of legal troubles.
>But it's a sad fact of life that if you're one of the
>few people in town who does something that the majority
>finds unusual/abnormal/unnatural, you're more likely
>to be targeted by someone who wants to force you to change.
>
>I'm sure it doesn't make the poster feel safer to hear
>you ask "what's he trying to hide" and "what is he doing to
>his kids?"  
>
>And exactly what's wrong with the advice that if a policeman
>or other official comes to your door with obviously hostile
>intent (he's not just looking for a lost dog or something)
>and demands to search your house. you should ask for a warrant,
>call an attorney, and keep a record of what happened?  Especially
>if they announce in advance that they're investigating a claim of
>child abuse?  
> 
This posting and another similiar to it fit my sentiments almost exactly.
I worked 2 years as a full time police officer some 18 years ago before I
finished my engineering degree.  While I don't have a lot of sympathy for
the guilty, I learned that people are their own worst enemies. In criminal
investigations, any thing you say or write will be used against you after you
are given your Miranda rights.  In civil (such as the State petitioning
to take custody of your children) and traffic cases, anything you say or
write will be used against you (period).  The police just love it when 
people incriminate themselves with their big mouths or when they agree to
searches of their homes or cars voluntarily.  Social service workers are 
just as much agents of the State as are the police. It is wise never to
admit anything to anybody (just like your insurance company tells you in
the case of an accident).  Don't give the State the rope to hang yourself!
You have a right not to talk to government agents and right to not have
them in your home without a search warrant.  These are constitutional
protections that the founders of our nation gave us. Don't give them up.

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