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From: mweiss@mis.mi04.zds.com (Mitchell Weiss)
Subject: Kol Yisrael Broadcast Schedule
Organization: Zenith Data Systems
Distribution: world 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:09:44 GMT


This is a repost of information from rec.radio.shortwave.  I thought
it may be of some interest to people in this newsgroup.  

>
>
> Kol Israel
>
>	**Note: Notice the phone and address at the botom. You can write
>	or fax a request for the next schedule.
>
> Fall Schedule effective 1 November - 27 March
> as announced on DX Corner 25 Oct 1925 UT.
>
> English:
> 0500-0515  NA/wEu    9435
> 1100-1130  wEu      17545
> 1400-1425  wEu/NA   17575 15640 11603 11587
>            wNA      17590
>            Aus/As   15650
> 1800-1815  wEu/NA   11587  7465
>            wNA      11675
>            Af       17575
> 2000-2030  wEu/NA   11587  9435  7465
>            wNA      11675
>            Af       17575
>            LA       11603
> 2230-2300  NA/wEu   11603 11587  7465
>            wNA      11675
>            LA       17575  9435
>
> Hebrew "Reshet Bet" Domestic 2nd Network
> 0400-2300  15615 13753  9388
> 0400-0455   9435
> 0530-0610   9435
> 0615-1050  17545
> 1205-1355  17545
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>        Kol Israel phone numbers
>        Director L&C  972 2 389051
>        Fax           972 2 388821
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Israel Broadcasting Authority - Kol Israel
> PO Box 1082
> Jerusalem 91010, Israel
>
>Cheers,
>
>-- 
>S. Lerner                   |Internet:	slerner@Eingedi.Newton.MA.US
>121 Walnut Hill Road        |CompuServe:  73150,3102 
>Newton, Massachusetts 02161 |UUCP: {...uunet}!think!eingedi!slerner


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: carmeli@exa.cs.umn.edu (Tidhar T. Carmeli)
Subject: Re: Why is the Florence synagogue "fortified" ?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:09:52 GMT

In <1993Jan9.004015.4230@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> distef@eecg.toronto.edu (Eugenia Distefano) writes:

>I was in Rome last summer. I counted four police cars and two 
>police vans outside the synagogue. My guess is they are there
>to protect the Jewish community from possible attacks from
>Palestinian terrorists and Italian neo-Fascists. As for the

	To be sure, it was pretty much the same story in Milano when I was
living there (police stationed outside our local synagogue etc.).

							Tidhar T. Carmeli
							University of Minnesota
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Inquiry
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:00:21 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <C0Br2B.Dw2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kgivon@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (karen lee givon) writes:
>
>I was only repeating what the guy told me.  Too bad that someone would
>feel they could not trust a friend enough to sleep at
>that friend's house because he/she is Christian.   

I don't know how old that saying is and I have no idea why your
Muslim Arab friend would relay such a thing to you; however, you
might try understanding the hatred that existed/still exists for
Muslims and why trust was/is such an important issue in view of
friendship.

If you haven't seen or experienced it yet, you might realize that
times have changed/are changing [we can only hope].

Anisa
	"The best kind - angry, rebellious, critical - a renegade ..."
From: afrydman@granpa.enet.dec.com (Avi Frydman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Mezuza question
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:45:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1iare1INN26p@morrow.stanford.edu>, aliki@nova1.stanford.edu 
(Alexandra Schmidt) writes...
>I'm under the impression that if your house is sold to a Jew, you need not
>leave up *all* your mezuzot but should certainly leave at least one, preferably
>the one by the front door.  I know I've read this but couldn't tell you
>where--if anyone can comment on whether it's true, I'd be interested in 
>knowing more specifically.  Since I live in a small apartment with relatively
>few mezuzot, most of them are gifts from friends or have some other sentimental
>value.)
> 
>			. . .Alexandra
> 

If another Jew will occupy the house, the mezuzot should be left.  You are
allowed to charge the new occupant for them.  You certainly can take the
mezuzah covers with you.  Many of ours were also gifts or bought by us in
Jerusalem. The mezuzah is the parchment.

Avi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: Seriously, a joke.
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:25:57 GMT

stalling@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Stallings) writes:

> I find this mildly funny, but not offensive at all.  We all lend ourselves to
> stereotypes.  It has been my experience that stereotypes are based in reality.

I would think that virtually every stereotype ascribed to any
ethnic group could be applied to individual members of virtually
every other ethnic group.  (Exceptions would include, of course,
trivial statements like, "All blacks are blacks.")

> I would take offense if this was malicious or hateful, or if it propogated
> some untruth about a social or ethnic group that cast them in a bad light.

I suppose that this determination would require subjective judgment
as well as sophisticated statistical information.

> It may very well be that Jews, Scots and Quakers are not "generally" thrifty
> or hard bargainers, but it was once enough true in some time or place that
> that became a way for other social or ethnic groups to identify them and to
> characterize them as different than themselves.

I am quite sure that some WASPs do/will/did smell and steal,
and are/were/will be cheap and lazy -- in some time or place.
Would these four characteristics qualify as a fair stereotype,
as a way for my social group to identify them, to characterize
"them" as different from "me."  (Bad example, since I smell
and steal, and I'm cheap and lazy.)

> Its a rough world out there, and forming tribal-like groups is one way of 
> dealing with it, and that is not something that will (or perhaps even should)
> go away anytime soon.  Yes, I know it is carried to extremes in places like 
> Serbia and Alabama, but a joke like this is not anywhere near far enough down
> the continuum in that direction to warrant my censure.  I find the 
> scolding responses more offensive.

I had little problem with the joke itself.  I don't love your
explanation, though.

I guess I just feel that all generalizations are wrong. :-)

-Don Gertler
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: ayf@pruxp.att.com (Avi Feldblum)
Subject: Re: Anu Uvaale Chaim etc
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:23:57 GMT

In article <1473600027@igc.apc.org> sdubin@igc.apc.org (Stephen Dubin) writes:
>
>As a veterinarian and, b'koshi, a Jew; I am often called upon to discuss
>the Jewish  viewpoint regarding non-human animals and our relationship
>to them.  

>of the korbanot.  I am particularly interested in items in English -
>electronically accessable is, of course, specially nifty.

If you are interested in a Jewish Halakhic perspective, there have been
some extensive discussions on this topic on the mail-jewish mailing
list. I'll use this oppertunity to describe how to access the
mail-jewish archive material. You can access the back issues that
discussed it as follows: 

Send a message to:

listserv@nysernet.org

saying:

get mail-jewish fullindex

This will give you a full index of everything that has been discussed
on mail-jewish, with the volume and issue number since Volume 2. Once
you grep through (or read through, as you wish) and get the issue
numbers you want, you can get them as follows. For issues in Volumes
3-5, to get issue vXnY  (volume X number Y), send the message:

get mail-jewish/volumeX vXnY

Volume 2 and earlier are not stored in single issue
format. Unfortunately, I just checked my index files, and most of the
discussion was in the 1990 mailings that precede the change over to
volume numbers. In this case, you need to get the entire year file,
which I think is archived as 

get mail-jewish mj90

You can get a list of what is available by sending the message:

index mail-jewish


Avi Feldblum
mail-jewish Moderator
mljewish@nysernet.org or  feldblum@att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,misc.legal
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Crown Heights Jury
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:24:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.020756.13646@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>But the mostly Black jury somehow managed to throw out ALL of the
>evidence against the Black defendant.  This is an upsetting turn of
>events, and a danger to the justice system, as it stands.

The defense attorney held a party for the defendant after the verdict
which many of the jurors attended.  Strikes me as somewhat unseemly.
If it's not covered by existing ethics rules, it should be.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
never shout movie in a crowded firestation
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Eruv
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:32:49 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Boston University

In article <lkrjn6INNj9n@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Maris ayin? I could understand maris ayin for a non-kosher restaurant or 
						~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
drinking water, OK

>X-rated movie or something, but it seems to me that anyone who is 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

looking on the upper half of the screen ?! (or is it all over the screen anyway?!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: khaikin@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (dmitry khaikin)
Subject: Re: Muslim women and Judaism
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:30:27 GMT

In article <1itgm0INN7r4@life.ai.mit.edu> steel@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (JLE) writes:
>Anisa said:
>>In article <1993Jan09.011611.808489@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani) writes:
>>>
>>>No it doesn't.  Muslims can marry Jews.  It is in the Islamic 
>>>constitution.  If Kill the Jews is a law, then how can they allow
>>>a muslim to marry a Jewish woman?  A Jewish Woman can be
>>>the mother of muslim children.  Therefore, Islam is not Anti Jewish
>>>as you are attempting to brain people's brain with.
>>
>>But the question is, can a Muslim Woman be the mother of Jewish
>>Children?  :-)  :')

Look, "Jewish Joke of the Day" is back, and with some new stuff too! :-)

Thanks,
Dima
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  "A word is worth one coin; silence is worth two."_____ The Talmud.
  "Silence is good everywhere, except in connection with Torah."____ The Zohar.
  khaikin@cis.ohio-state.edu  ( Dmitry Khaikin, Columbus Ohio )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hillelm@comm.mot.com (Hillel Meyers)
Subject: Re: Eruv
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:07:01 GMT

In article <CPLS13-070193164055@145.1.92.160>, CPLS13@email.mot.com (Steven_Cohn) writes:
|
|> Even better, there is now an eruv in Chicago!!!  While we were able to
|> institute an eruv in Skokie (a north suburb of Chicago) about a year ago,
|> the Chicago eruv became functional about 2 weeks ago.  We are finally a
|> REAL jewish city now!
|> 

Does an Eruv make a Jewish city and can there be a Jewish city
outside of Israel?

Hillel
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:04:08 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1993Jan2.040803.15192@sarah.albany.edu> mark@fenris.albany.edu (Mark Steinberger) writes:
>
>In fact, despite all the noise here, the temporary deportation is much
>more lenient than imprisonment and trial. And since they have the
>right of appeal for this deportation, the current situation gives them
>their day in court without imprisonment.

After what period of time to appeal?  Appeal to whom?  Under the same
system that did not provide legal justice?  Well, I just discovered
this bit of information from the Denver Post yesterday:

	(Article to:)
	"Rabin and a handful of his top officials had worked
	out a plan to keep secret the largest peacetime deportations
	Israel had ever attempted, at least until the expusion was
	completed."  -  "The New York Times and The Washington Post
	contributed to this report".  (End of Article)

Just reconfirmed our suspicions ...
 
>Rabin was stupid. He wanted to do something flashy to demonstrate to
>the Israeli Jews that he was fighting the terrorists.

Uh huh.  That is exactly the image that he wanted to promote.

>The result is that the pro-Arab factions are jumping in to trash the
>peace negotiations. Rabin has made serious concessions for peace while
>the Arabs have stonewalled. They are now using this temporary
>deportation issue to avoid having to make concessions of their own.

Uh huh.  Well, according to the article, Rabin / Israel was not THAT
serious about the "peace negotiations", unless they thought that the
"peace coordinators" on the Palestinian side would not protest?  Then,
as an added measure, the media set the Hamas up against the delegates
like Hanan Ashrawi to suggest that it is the Hamas who is responsible
for the failure of the "negotiations" by continuing the intefada/
resistance to Israeli Occupation.
 
>The fact is that the Arabs don't want a negotiated peace.

Syria does - and is ready to trade peace for the Golan Heights.  Jordan
might.  What is Israel willing to do to take the steps towards "negotiated
peace", which, as we realize, has nothing specifically to do with
Palestinians except as a focal point of the gatherings.

>And all this noise is the most biased piece of nonsense I've ever
>heard. Hamas has taken responsibility for the murder of the 15 year
>old Helena Rapp. Where were all our experts in international law then?
>What was her offense? That she's Jewish. Nothing more.

Obviously the international community only recognizes the Hamas as a
terrorist organization and Israel as a country with legitimacy,
despite the fact that break/have broken international laws since Day 1.

Anisa
From: steel@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (JLE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Muslim women and Judaism
Date: 12 Jan 1993 04:16:00 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

Anisa said:
>In article <1993Jan09.011611.808489@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani) writes:
>>
>>No it doesn't.  Muslims can marry Jews.  It is in the Islamic 
>>constitution.  If Kill the Jews is a law, then how can they allow
>>a muslim to marry a Jewish woman?  A Jewish Woman can be
>>the mother of muslim children.  Therefore, Islam is not Anti Jewish
>>as you are attempting to brain people's brain with.
>
>But the question is, can a Muslim Woman be the mother of Jewish
>Children?  :-)  :')

Of course not.  Under islamic law a muslim woman is only
allowed to marry a muslim man.  How can she raise Jewish children?
She has to be married to a non-muslim, or she doubts the Quran;
that automatically makes her a non-muslim.

>There's a lot more to it than just that.  Under Islamic law, Muslims
>are required to safeguard the rights of non-Muslims and to go to war
>on their behalf against the enemies of a Muslim state.

But this is completely unrelated to the rasing of none-muslim children.

>Muslims are also required to respect the lifestyle of Jews and allow
>them fair and equal treatment under an Islamic state.  The Prophet

Not only Jews.

>not to initiate the conflict.  Of course it is difficult to apply
>concepts as relevant to current affairs, where many issues get
>intermixed.

If they do, that mean they are outside the islamic law.

>Back to the topic, the following quotes may provide a little more insight
>on the subject matter.  Even if this is not practiced by every Muslim,
>it doesn't mean that Muslims are prescribed by the Quoran to follow anti-
>semitic teachings.  I just want to point out a few things here:
>
>
>	"It may be that Allah will bring about affection between you
>	and those who are your enemies from among them.  And Allah is
>	All-Powerful, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."  (60:7)

Completely misunderstood verse.
But Allah didn't say you should give you Islam and marry a none-muslim.
There is another verse in the Quran  that said:  

		"Wa qatilo al yahooda wannasara"
		(And fight  the Yahoud and the Christians)

How do you bring about between both verses?

Another one said: 

		"Wala tattkhitho al yahoda wannasara Awliya`"
		(Don't take the Yahud and the CHristians as allies)

How do you bring about between both verses?


jle
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Feld brothers update
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:41:15 GMT
Organization: /usr/local/trn/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu

In article <PINKAS.93Jan6180855@skywalker.intel.com> pinkas@skywalker.intel.com (Israel Pinkas) writes:
>As I have mentioned before, the matter is not whether Rabbi Levin wishes to
>cooperate with s.c.j.  The matter is more broad than that.  A vast majority
>of the phone calls are probably not from people on the net.  In addition,
>Rabbi Levin may not wish to go on record with any more statements, given
>the uproar that his one small comment has caused.
>
>I did find out that Rabbi Levin was out of town all last week (12/27-1/1)
>and has not been in in the office full time since.

[23 lines deleted]

I'm sorry, but I think I have to bail out at this point. I didn't
really want to get involved in the first place, and responding
to various phantoms is getting too time consuming. 


-- 
________________________________________
Jack F. Love	| 	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
		|	(Unless you happen to agree.)
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Orthadox Judaism and women
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:05:26 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1993Jan10.025405.26766@netcom.com> horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923) writes:
>
>What I object to is the implication that Orthodox Jewish
>women are made "dumb" or "stupid" by their religion. I
>know far too many Orthodox Jewish women who are professionals
>in the business and academic world, to take your comment as
>anything but autobiographical. If so, perhaps you should
>find a better group of Orthodox Jewish males.

Might you make the same objection and analysis of the situation
on behalf of Orthodox Muslim women?
 
Anisa

	"The counter revolution People smiling through their
	tears Who can give them back their lives And all those
	wasted years? All those precious wasted years - Who will
	pay?"  Geddy Lee

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: time between BASAR & CHLAV
Organization: Free Faerie Front
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:40:14 GMT

In article <1iernbINN6k3@pita.cs.huji.ac.il> aplebaum@irs01.cs.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum) writes:
>I wander what period of time most jews wait between
>BASAR and CHALV. 

Is this a trick question? Most of us don't wait at all.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 19:46:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.082529.7679@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> abde@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Tamer A. Abdelgawad) writes:

>Sorry to barge in (O.K., so I'm not really sorry :-) ), but I just want
>to ask:  Dr. Balbin, In Your Honest Opinion, do you think it is fair for
>Israel to toss out 400+ Palestinians out of their homeland without

They should be welcome in their own homeland on the Jordanian-Occupied
East Bank of Palestine.  Working to overthrow the local government is
enough to make someone person-non-grata in most any country.

-- 
Jake Livni  jake@bony1.bony.com              10 years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York                   have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: distef@eecg.toronto.edu (Eugenia Distefano)
Subject: Re: Japanese Antisemitism?
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:40:31 GMT

In article <1496@blue.cis.pitt.edu> milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison) writes:
>
>Hi everyone.  I remember reading sometime back (I don't remember where)
>that antisemitism was rampant in Japan.  I think the article was about
>how sales of "The Protocols of ... Zion" had recently jumped in the "Land
>of the Rising Sun".
>
>Anyway, is there truth to this?  Does anyone know of any sources where
>this sort of thing might be documented?
>

There was a posting on alt.revisionism three or four days ago
on the topic of antisemitism in Japanese tabloids. The poster 
reproduced an article from last Sundays's Los Angeles 
Times by the title of "Rant of Japan's Tabloids: Hysterical 
Anti-Semitism". You might want to check it. If I recall correctly, 
it did mention some sources: it gave the name of the tabloids in 
question and listed a number of best-selling antisemitic Japanese 
books---not enough to be able to judge how widespread the phenomenon 
really is though...

Does anybody know how far back antisemitism goes in Japan? 
When Japan was an Axis country, did the Japanese government
enact antisemitic legislation?  Or take an antisemitic stance
in any other way? Did it know about the "final solution"
and what did it think about it? I'd like suggestions
on where I may read up on this,  if anybody has any.
Thanks
	-e


-- 
 Eugenia Distefano 
 distef@eecg.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: My experience with Jews for Jesus
From: TimeLord <X30KB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 13:25:21 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

      Greetings, people!
      Strangely enough, I never saw a reply to this rather interesting article.
Well, here goes.


      I am a Jew (at least, by my both grandmothers). I came from USSR about 2
years ago, and here my mother became involved with Messianic Jews. Before that
we used to maintain most jewish traditions, while being not overly religious.
      My mother is in her congregation for over a year already. She is an
active believer, and that seems to have affected her life positively-slightly.
      I have been to her congregation few times (but I am not a believer). I
find those people rather normal, but very preachy (that is a specification of
Christianity - saving souls.)
      We still maintain all jewish traditions we used to - except kosher.
That does not affect me, for I am not religious (at least, I am not a
follower of any wide-spread systematic religion).
      New Testament supposedly freed Chrisitians from kosher, but I think that
place was misinterpreted.
      All Christian tradition & holidays are maintained as well in my family
(more holidays - more fun, except for Yom Kippur).
      Basically I would disagree with the opinion of messianic jews & JfJ
(they are very similar) being a bunch of people with personality problem.

   That is all for now

Signing off
                            *** TimeLord ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,misc.legal