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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:26:41 -0500
From:         Tech Duinn <WAREP@WABASH.BITNET>
Subject: Re: . . .what am I doing wrong?

It could be that the expose.dms is undmsing into an NDOS disk.  have you tried
booting with it?
Try it..chances are that it will work that way, however if it doesn't...then
it's time to look into ehe problem further.

Hope this helps...
Later,

Phil Ware
WAREP@WABASH
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:42:00 EST
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      GEnie Internet Access

I picked up this little tidbit from GEnie last week.  Haven't tried it yet.



                       Internet Pricing Change


The pricing for Internet will be changed to the following effective
November 1, 1992.

$2.00 registration fee - this will be a one time charge for all new
users signing up for the service.  However, if a user cancels and
signs up another $2.00 charge will be incurred.

$.30 for each 5000 bytes or portion thereof  for incoming or outgoing
messages.

The Internet Mail Gateway is in Open Beta.  Please report any problems
or errors to Feedback.


What is GEnie's(R) Internet Mail Service?
------------------------------------------

GEnie's Internet Mail Service is a feature of the GE Mail system that
allows you to send GE Mail messages outside of the GEnie community to
individuals that are connected to the Internet.  Individuals on the
Internet also have the ability to send E-mail messages to GEnie
subscribers.  The messages appear in your GE Mail mailbox and look
like any other GE Mail message.


~~~~~~~~~~~

I guess you have to know what someone's GE Mail mailbox is in order to send to
GEnie, but it's not clear to me whether the receiver must be a subscriber. Does
anyone else know anything about this?

Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
        Roy H. Park School of Communications
        Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY 14850-7256 USA
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:39:00 EST
From:         Charles McCreary <CHASMC@IUP.BITNET>
Subject:      Oberon and Flopticals

Hello Netters!
I was wondering if anyone had opinions on the following:
1. I recently downloaded the demo of the OberonII compiler (an object-oriented
language derived from Modula-2) and was curious if anyone on this side of the
Atlantic had any experience with it. The first version of the compiler was
available on Fish 360 but I don't believe the software was ever released in the
States (Its origin is German or Swiss.) I'm learning amiga C but I'd like to get
into Oberon because I like Pascal and Oberon's object orientation.

2. I've been wondering whether I should get a floptical drive for my 3000. I ask
this because the price is getting to where I'd consider it over another hard
drive per se. At the same time, the price for Syquest drives appears to be about
the same. Any thoughts as to which would be better?
--Thanks in advance,
Charles McCreary
Assistant Professor of French,
Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:24:53 +1100
From:         "(David Johnson,
              CSIRO Div. Wool Tech.)" <DJOHNSON@GEEL.DWT.CSIRO.AU>
Subject:      Re: Circuit Diagrams

On Sat, 7 Nov 1992 13:44:16 GMT, "R Ambridge (UG3)" <ram@CS.STIR.AC.UK> wrote

> Does anyone know of a program for the amiga which can be used for
> drawing circuit diagrams. You know, chips, wires, and gates etc.

I haven't used it, but there's a program called mcad on fish74. I've seen
circuit diagrams that were allegedly drawn using it, so it must be _possible_!
No idea about WB2 compatibility (sorry).


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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:58:21 CET
From:         "Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules..." <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: AGA chipset and SVGA monnitor

Yep, sure will (at least the 640x480/400/512 modes).
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:51:08 EST
From:         "(Daniel Roman)" <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cool demos
              12, 92 3:19 pm

Tech Duinn writes:
>
> If you can, get ahold of the Enigma-Azatoth '91 demo.  It is sweedish
[Rest of post deleted]

Will it run on an accelerated machine?

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:01:52 -0900
From:         "Psuedo-Combat Mage" <KSDKW@ALASKA.BITNET>
Subject:      SetPatch

Is there an equivilent (sp?) to the setpatch r command (under 1.3) for the new
2.x setpatch?
I used setpatch r (under 1.3) so I could then use bootpal to boot up my amiga
in pal mode.
Is there a way to do this under 2.x?
Any help would be great.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:03:54 -0600
From:         flasar@WUGCRC.WUSTL.EDU
Subject:      RE: Polaroid's Slide Maker

>In AmigaWorld there are advertisements from Polaroid for their slide
>production peripheral.  From the photograph it appears as if a average
>35mm camera is linked into a box of some sorts.  What I am driving at
>is I am wondering if this unit simply is a monitor of some sort which
>is enclosed hooked to a camera.  If so, can't simply taking photos
>of one's screens produce adequate results as well, rather than laying out
>several hundred dollars worth of money?
>-Just a thought
>-Jordan
    Jordan:
    Though it's true that the polaroid slide production system does use a
small screen for reproduction of the image for photographing, the screen
is much brighter, is flatter, and the unit is optimized for the correct
exposure for the slide.
    As one who has photographed screens, it can be a bear to make sure you
don't get ambient reflections, set the speed correctly, make sure that you
have the right color saturation, etc. on the screen, as well as to make sure
that you have the axis of the camera lens directly perpendicular to the exact
center of the screen, or you'll get slight distortion.
    The polaroid palette does this all for you.
    Dan Flasar
    Washington U School of Medicine
    St. Louis, MO
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:45:16 -0500
From:         "Daniel S. Riley" <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: AmigaDOS 2.0

Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU> writes:
>An example of what I mean is when you are showing information on an icon,
>you cannot do other tasks on (with) the workbench.  And even the process of
>launching a task under workbench does not multitask.  Should you not be
>able to launch multiple tasks concurrently on a multitasking workbench.

You're behind the times.  2.04 does do program launches asynchronously, and
3.0 also does info asynchronously.  Workbench still isn't fully multitasking,
but it does now multitask the two examples you cited.

--
Dan Riley                          Internet:   dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu
Wilson Lab, Cornell University     HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr)
	 "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:59:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Polaroid's Slide Maker

In AmigaWorld there are advertisements from Polaroid for their slide
production peripheral.  From the photograph it appears as if a average
35mm camera is linked into a box of some sorts.  What I am driving at
is I am wondering if this unit simply is a monitor of some sort which
is enclosed hooked to a camera.  If so, can't simply taking photos
of one's screens produce adequate results as well, rather than laying out
several hundred dollars worth of money?
-Just a thought
-Jordan
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:14:55 +0100
From:         "(Jorrit Tyberghein)" <jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Subject:      HAM8

Hi,

I just realized that HAM8 is more powerful than is generally known.
Instead of only 262144 colors it is possible to view 1060928 colors
at once!!! (of course you need very high resolution to view all these
colors at once :-).
Here follows the calculation:

HAM8 uses 8 bits for each pixel. The first 2 bits control what happens
to the color of this pixel. There are four possibilities :

  00  :  the remaining 6 bits indicate which color from the color palette
	 should be used. The color of this pixel will be completely
	 equal to the color in the palette
  01  :  the color of the pixel will be equal to the color of the pixel
	 at the left except that the RGB value for red will change
	 to the value in the remaining 6 bits (these 6 bits are put at
	 the most significant bits in the 8 bit red value, so you get
	 an 8 bit component with the two least significant bits equal to
	 0)
  10  :  like 01 but for green
  11  :  like 01 but for blue

So HAM8 can display at least the 64 colors from the palette.

Lets assume we have constructed a palette containing only RGB values
with the two least significant bits for red, green and blue different from 0.

When we start with one of the 64 colors from the palette and we change one
of the components (R, G or B) we get an additional 64*3*64 colors (since
we can start with 64 different palette entries, we have 3 components
and we have 64 possibilities for these components).

When we use an additional pixel to change another component (so we are
changing two components) we get an additional 64*3*64*64 colors (since
we can start with 64 different palette entries, we have 3 ways to change
two components and we have 64*64 possibilities to change the two
components).

We can then use a fourth pixel to change the last component. This gives
an additional 64*64*64 colors.


All together this gives: 64+64*3*64+64*3*64*64+64*64*64 = 1060928

The important thing for this trick to work is that the color palette is
constructed like I said above (with the two least significant bits different
from zero). Using this trick you can guarantee that all 64 possibilities for
each component give a different color than the one in the palette.


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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:32:03 MET
From:         AMIGA@BANRUC60.BITNET
Subject:      I'm back ...

Yo,

  Just a quick mail I'm back on the net after some months ...
  Could anyone please mail me the contents of the fishes 710+ ?
  And maybe the genie 5 minute news of teh last month, if anyone still
  has them.
  Please mail to me directly, 'coz the other ones have had it already.

     Regards,

        Aeneas.

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From:         "Matthiew Clemence" <mclem@MPH.SM.UCL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Minimum WB 1.3 disk with IconX

I don't know exactly what is needed for IconX but a PD programme called
SNOOPDOS may help you find out. I originally found it at the Lancaster PD site
here in the U.K. and the programme lists all the AmigaDOS calls and whether
they succeeded or not.

Hope this helps
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From:         John <JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: diskdoubler for amiga?

John Graham                                               TV Systems Engineer
JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET                  University of the District of Columbia
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:44:34 EDT
From:         "Breno A. Silva" <ALUNOINF@BRUFSE.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP!

   I'm desperately needing help. I see everybody giving coordinates
of Amiga PD files (wuarchive, ucsd, etc.). I suppose they're in
Internet file servers, and as I am a Bitnet user and don't know how
can I download them (nor even if I can), I'd like someone who knows
to give me the exact commands I have to enter. They must be sent in
MAIL 'cause I can't enter such big names in TELL commands...

 P.S.: Where are the Fish disks? (Just see how I'm informed <8-) )

===>  Breno 'Toasterman' Silva (ALUNOINF@BRUFSE.BITNET)
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From:         DGRIMM@UTCVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The 1200
              4 Nov 1992 19:37:17 EST from <rharnaga@ARISTOTLES.RUTGERS.EDU>

I would also like to know why the I*M's OS/2 requires such a large amount
of memory and drive space.  Please post reply's to this list or to my
account also.  Thanks.

                       David Grimm(DGRIMM@UTCVM.BITNET)
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Date: 13 Nov 92 18:25:13 GMT
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I believe this type of system actually exposes the slide three times.  Once
against each of the three primary colors that color slide film best responds
too.  One of those colors I believe is Cyan (it has being a few years since my
photography class in college).  By doing this, you produce a slide with better
definition.

This is not to say that you can't build a hood that fits over your monitor and
then take pictures with your camera.  If you use this method you should take
three pictures of each screen. One at the exposure recommended by your camera,
and then bracket that with +1/2 stop and -1/2 stop exposures. If you take
pictures without a hood, you definitely need to take the picture without flash
in a darkened room.

Ed Bruce
edward@hac2arpa.hac.com
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:11:08 EST
From:         "(Arc Wave)" <ARC@JUDY.BITNET>
Subject:      Brillance, is it avail now?

	Is the Brillance paint package from Digital Creations available now?
	If so, how much and whats the phone number to order?

Paul


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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:26:45 CST
From:         "Alejandro J. Kurczyn S." <AKURCZYN@ITESMVF1.BITNET>
Subject:      PD Award?

I have some ideas to share, and I'd like to hear some comments about them:

1. Will it be possible to enforce some kind of standard documentation for
   programs? hypertext will be fine, but simpler methods will do well.
   The documentation will be stored in a special directory, and a new
   command will be added to the C. It will work much like the "man"
   command in UNIX. This way all you must do to have your documentation at
   hand is move it to the directory, and type 'help program' to get the
   docs. You can have a help file for all the C commands, the PD programs
   may include a "help" file with all necessary information in one place,
   instead of 2, 3 or more doc files in several formats.

2. The I-AMIGA list can offer a public acknowledge to the author(s) of the
   best PD/SW program to appear in a certain time, I can remember such good
   programs as MED, HamLab+, AIBB, SysInfo, SuperDuper, DirWork, etc.

   It will also work for some readers to know what is the best program
   available in any area.

Well, any comments, sugestions, whatever to me or to the list if you think
it will be of interest for someone else.

-Alejandro
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Subject: .Z ???
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:49:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

While, I have been around for a while, this type of compression still baffles
me.  Which program should I use to decompress these files, and where might I
find it ?  Any and all help is appreciated.

  Tom DeFlavees - The Eternal Graduate Student......at this rate anyway!!!

  td06@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
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The A1200 is an A600 with a keypad.
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From:         "The Search for Computing Power,
              68060 : the legend live on!" <FRASER50@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: questions.....

    on the question of virtual memory, try ff disk 740 HDMem.

Fish:740 HDMem
Demo version of software that allows you to use virtual memory
with OS2.0, version 37.x or higher, on m68020/m68851 or m68030
amigas.  Supports task exclusion.  The demo version is limmited
to 2Mb of virtual memory.  Version 2.0, shareware, binary only.
Author: Stefan Rompf


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From: rkimball@athena.qualcomm.com (Robert Kimball)
Subject: Re: .Z ???
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:03:00 GMT

td06@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWARD DEFLAVEES) writes:

>While, I have been around for a while, this type of compression still baffles
>me.  Which program should I use to decompress these files, and where might I
>find it ?  Any and all help is appreciated.

The .Z files are compressed with the UNIX compress utility.  There is a
amiga version around, try wuarchive.wustl.edu.  The compress util does
both compress and decompress.
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Date:         Mon, 2 Nov 1992 18:55:00 CST
From:         BG09110@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Subject:      DICE Package

I have recently ftp'ed the latest (last?) freeware version of the DICE C
Compiler from a European system.  I have Amiga's NDK includes and libs.  My
question does anyone have a WORKABLE two disk system for the compiler??

B Griggs
BG09110
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:34:39 HST
From:         Todd Mizomi <TODDM@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: keyboard and mouse

Thanks for the tips Nyle!  :-)

-Todd
From: glovercj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
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Subject: A4000-Educational Discount
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:35:37 GMT
Organization: Drexel Univ-Software Testing Lab

I was wondering if anyone knows anything about an A4000 powerup deal for the
2000?? Any response would be appreciated.
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