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From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: Historical Evidence of Krishna?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:18:05 GMT
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Len Moskowitz (moskowit@panix.com) wrote:
[...]
: I find wonderfully amusing parallels between John Emery's posts and
: Kalki's.  Which of these religions is the real one-way-to-God, as both
: of their proponents argue?

Once there was a small fish, who felt quite lonely.
He was told that there were some enourmous being, from which he originated and
which provided everything he found for his living.
There were many - sometimes even contradictory - legends about it; some called
it Ocean, some spoke of the Great Sea, some only whispered about the nameless
omnipresent water, stating there was only one of it and therefore defending it
agains the other claims.
After a while our fish found all this talking about it fruitless, and decided
that he would have to know it for himself. So he became a seeker.
Since he didn't know where to search, he visited so-called "master-fishes" and
asked them what to do.
Some told him he had to study the scriptures closely, and do everything which
was written there; when he would show proper behaviour, the ocean would reveal
itself to him. He tried this, and became respected, but did not find anything.
So he asked a teacher of another area, and was told to call out for the ocean,
to praise and contemplate on the many holy attribes of its perfection.
He followed the given advice, with so much intensity that he could hardly think
of anything else; his beliefs became very firm, but no ocean appeared.
Since he wasn't satisfied with this situation, he took another advice. A very
powerful teacher told him to analyze his environment and himself, to find out
everything he could about himself. He concentrated on this with all his energy,
and was soon known as a knowledgable and mighty fish. It happend as before:
He had now tried everything he heared of, but still he had not found the ocean
he was seeking for. All those little archivements he had attained on the
journey hadn't brought him the desired fulfillment.
He had hardly any more hope.
A wise fish saw him swimming around so sadly, and asked what the reason were.
He explained the situation, and that he could not be happy without the ocean.
Then the wise fish laughted ...

(... we see the fishes swimming around, seeking their food together ...)

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Think
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:33:09 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Folks: Well I read now that some of you are starting to think.
>That's a good sign. Reminds we of the movie 2001.
>John Winston.

I just stumbled in here to find 1/3rd of the articles originating from
Mr. John Winston and a debate over him ... methinks (-; Mr. Winston is
somebody's Ph.D. thesis in AI, with parts of Eliza hooked up to a large
database of UFO and parapsycological literature plus transcriptions of
every one of Steve Wright's HBO Comedy Specials.

gld
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From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn)
Subject: Re: The Passing Of Spot.
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:08:43 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
:> Dear Folks: I am sad to hear of the passing of Spot. I still have 
:> Yogi The Telepathic Dog by myside. 
:> John Winston.

What the hell does this have to do with alt.alien.visitors? or any of the
other news groups that it is cross posted to?
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From: davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com (David Hatcher)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: preparing for the changes
Date: 29 Dec 1992 00:14:08 -0800
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In article <1992Dec28.191957.2536@merrimack.edu> nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf) writes:
>In article <1hkr8lINNnft@cascade.ens.tek.com>, davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com
>(David Hatcher) writes: 
>>   Which earth changes are you thinking of. There are a lot of predictions of
>> a lot of different scenarios. 
>
>The rotational axis shifts so slightly that our instruments have difficulty 
>measuring it.  A series of earth quakes is triggered all over the world, even
>in places the don't normally get them, lasting several days.  In some places,
>power is out.  In some, communication is down.  In some, transportation is
>difficult.  Piles of rain and flooding attempt to clean out the volcanic ash in
>the atmosphere which blocks out much sun.  Arctic air sweeps over the globe,
>causing wind storms and making the planet cold enough that no food grows for a
>couple of seasons.  I guess I am also thinking of the smaller quakes and storms
>leading up to this event and succeeding it.


  Why is it that you believe that it is this scenario that will happen?







        The saints are what they are, not because their sancity makes
        them admirable to others, but because of the gift of sainthood
        makes it possible for them to admire everybody else.
                                        Thomas Merton


	David Hatcher

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
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Subject: Adonis.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 11:34:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

1>+2






Dear Everybody: I just received this 
information from 
a friend of mine regarding Adonis.
Dear Great One: You are a treasure.  Adonis was  in  Greek  Mythology  a 
beautiful youth beloved by Aphrodite and Persephone.  He was born of the 
incestuous union of Smyrna and Cinyras, king of Cyprus.  Aphrodite  left 
Adonis  in the care of Persephone who raised him and made him her lover. 
Aphrodite later demanded the youth for herself but Persephone was unwilling  
to relinquish him.  When Adonis was gored to death by a boar, both 
Persephone and Aphrodite claimed him.   Zeus  settled  the  dispute  by 
arranging  for  Adonis  to  spend  the  summer  months above ground with 
Aphrodite and the winter  half  of  the  year  with  Persephone  in  the 
underground.   Adonis'  death  and  ressurection, symbolic of the yearly 
cycle of vegetation, were widely celebrated in  ancient  Greece  in  the 
midsummer  festival  Adonia.  Source of information: The New Illustrated 
Encyclopedia 1979. 
So this is me (JW) speaking now, Betty, You are a fount of 
information.
John Winston.uth for herself but Persephone was unwil-
ling  to relinquish him.  When Adon2w2

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cycle of vegetation, were widely celebrated in  a
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From: merz@ips.id.ethz.ch (Andreas Merz)
Subject: New Years Message from Sri Chinmoy
Organization: ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:22:50 GMT


        God is dreaming,
        Newness singing,
        Oneness blossoming,
        Fulness dancing.
        Hope no more gropes,
        Life without slopes,
        Splendid depths and heights
        Transform bondage-nights.
        God is dreaming...


This is the New Years Message from SRI CHINMOY for 1993.
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From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: PG-13 UFO Report.
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:48:19 GMT

In article <72360@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: PG-13 UFO Report. 
>  This report is rated PG-13 because it contains subjects and words unfit for 
>minors and miners also. I hope I don't offend any ladies by telling about 
>the following incident. This was found in an old tabloid report called 
>Examiner. 
 ^^^^^^^^

Uhrrmmmm..... John, the "Examiner" isn't a tabloid.
Needless to say, I was offended deeply.

mdw

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From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: The Passing Of Spot.
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:50:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.160843.1522@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (TheLrdLovsAHngn) writes:
>John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>:> Dear Folks: I am sad to hear of the passing of Spot. I still have 
>:> Yogi The Telepathic Dog by myside. 
>:> John Winston.
>
>What the hell does this have to do with alt.alien.visitors? or any of the
>other news groups that it is cross posted to?
>-- 
Not a damn thing, of course!

Happy Holidays!

kbq
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My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re:Bolivian Encounter Part 2.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 10:31:31 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: Bolivia Encounter. Part 2.
  This is a continuation of our last information about a person coming in 
contact with some space people. 
  " I don't know how long I stood there, unmoving. I only know  something 
suddenly touched my arm, and that I then turned, like in a dream, and what I 
saw paralyxed me still more, because beside me were standing two men in 
diver's suits! I still remember wondering about that, adn sked myself why 
these towo would run in the middle of the jungle in diver's dresses. Then I 
realized many differtences.  These dresses were very eicently much lighter 
in weight than any diver's suits known to me, and the silvery color was not 
like nay diver's suits I knew of. The two blonde men wore no helmets or 
other environmental headgear, abut had on their suits stranhge looking 
instruments of different size and form, still paralyxzed, I could not speak 
a word, though the men, who ev idently belonged to the flying sauce, did not 
look malicous and even laughed in a friendly way. Then one of them spoke, 
but I could not understand a single word.  then the second one fried but to 
no better result. I did not understand a word.  their language seemed 
totally strange to me, but of a melodic and sympathetic sound athat in any 
event calmed me and seemed to loosen my paralysis." 
  "Bothe men were about the same sized, the size of myself, about 1.74 meters. 
 They took me by the arms and guided me to their spacecraft, which I allowed 
without resistance. About 5 meters from the spacecraft they ahd set up some 
peculair things, among which were the some strange stolls or chairs, on 
which  we sat down.  I still could nto speak.  smiling in a frindly way now, 
one of them spoke to me, but aghain I could not understand anything. aHis 
speaking had the effect of releasing the aralysis and the stiffness was now 
gone. I became very calm, and now suddenly I could speak too. In 'spanish I 
inaUIRED IN ASTONISHMENT ABOUT THIS INCOMPREHENSIBLE OCCURRENCE,  
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:39:23 GMT

quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz wrote:
: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
: > Kibo is truely a master of what he does and I haven't figured out what that
: > is yet.
: 
:    Kibo is the best at what he does, but what he does isn't very pretty.

Only if he doesn't wash his hands afterwards.  He probably does it in public,
too, but I hear you can get arrested for that...
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
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From: peter@stycx.hacktic.nl (Author)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 01:48:33 PST
Organization: River of Doom. Running through Central Holland

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

> Dear Folks: I read something the other day from the people of the 
> Pleiades and they said that the earth would be a member of the Galactic
> concil by the year about 2027. I'll check it out and see exactly what 
> they said and get back to you. 
> John Winston.

Well John, let me give you a pointer check out the Mayan Calendar, 2027 
is actually 2017, ask Jose Arguelles he can give you some more inside 
into that. By the way do ever answer your mail, still waiting for a reply 
on that tunnel, anyhow where is part 2 (and 3 etc).

Wishing you a happy Xmas and a fruitfull new year, you know new year is 
allways a good period for reorientation and reconsideration of your 
objectives.

Greetings -Peter

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From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: taking too long
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:32:59 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
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Jeffrey CHANCE (jeffjc@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: No expectation, no frustration.
Don't forget to practice what you preach :-)

: But most of these things offer temporary fascination, not fulfillment.
When every moment is temporary fulfillment,
this is timeless (some say: eternal) fulfillment.

"There is a wonderful book by Hubert Benoit ["The Supreme Doctrine"], where he
 writes: 'All that must disappear is my belief not to be enlightened.'
 One should have faith in this.
 Then you are no longer the person who says: 'I had this or that experience'.
 Exactly now, just where you are, it is happening. And tomorrow something
 entirely different happens. One cannot cling to it. Today the sun shines and
 tomorrow it rains. But all together is only - wheather. And when you suppose
 that all is just wheather, it is no more of great importance whether it rains
 or not, since then the sun does always shine. Or it does always rain, that
 depends on what you are.
 Disappear must the belief considering oneself not to be enlightened.
 It is not about telling that to oneself or be brainwashed, that one were
 or would become enlightened; what matters is that one finally stops searching,
 or that the search at least becomes a not-search - a stop.
 One says: 'Okay, when I am enlightened and have nothing to do for that,
 then I'll stop and look what exactly is happening'.
 The attitude 'I must immediately become enlightened' would still be a trip.
 First one is on the trip of not being enlightened, then then that one is
 enlightened. It will not work this way.
 When one recognizes that one needs patience, the tendency for trips
 automatically decreases. One does need some trust for this. When one
 allows oneself simply to be natural, the energy will return to its natural
 state and then likewise arise naturally.
 'Until now I'm moving like I have learned it. Learned ways. Even my search,
 its whole form, comes from what I have read, heared and believed, from what
 I have received from others. Therefore not even the search is my own search,
 at best it is my version.'
 [...]
 And more and more one lets go everything, comes to ones nature and begins
 to live out of this space - completely natural and without plays, since this
 means the end of all plays. That infects others, since they get a glimpse
 of complete naturality and normality."

Taken from a book by Michael Barnett (it seems there's no English version of
this one available; the German original is named "Falltuer ins Grenzenlose",
meaning "Trap into the boundless").

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From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Desert.
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 16:45:52 GMT

In article <72428@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Lord willing and if the creek don't rise, I'm going to the desert for 
>a few days.
>John Winston.

Be careful.  Remember all the trouble that has resulted from that old
Jewish couple going out into the desert 5000 years ago...

"And several religions later"
jem.
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From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
Subject: Is John_-_Winston artificial?
Reply-To: lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA
Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:20:13 GMT

>   This is me (John Winston) speaking now. This all seems pretty far out but 
>if MUFON people say it you've got to believe it.

>Source of information: December 22, 1992-SUN-27.
>John Winston.

I'm beginning to believe that if John_-_Winston is the best AI can
improvise (a write-only model of Eliza), there's no hope for the
non-i486 world :-)

-- 
Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 17:34:57 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Visioners: I would like to thank people for warning me. I'll be
on guard for sure for sure.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Psychics Strike Out Again.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:14:01 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I was watching TV last night and lo and behold what did 
appear to my unbelieving eyes, was the face of your own Robert
Sheaffer. Mr. Sheaffer was pointing out the fact that many of the 
tabloid magazine psychic predictions do not come to pass as predicted.
Well done Robert.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Wishes
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 07:32:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear People On Earth: I would like at this time to wish a merry Christmas
on this christmas day to Satan and God be sure and take care of yourself
because if anything happens to you we're all sunk.
 Thanks to all the comments from everyone, good, bad and whathaveyou. 
I now propose that we seal the aura of the Earth so that only good 
vibrations and thoughts can come into  the area of the earth. Now 
how is that for a project? I can spell the word (keep). You people
are just too  intelligent to me.
John Winston
From: davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com (David Hatcher)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: preparing for the changes
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:05:09 GMT
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In article <1992Dec27.042900.2531@merrimack.edu> nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf) writes:
>I was wondering what you all are doing to prepare for physical survival during
>the earth changes.

  Which earth changes are you thinking of. There are a lot of predictions of
a lot of different scenarios. 
  
  But regardless of the changes that do occure, I'll take them like I do the
changes of the seasons or the loss of a job. What comes, comes. 



		Two strong impulses: One, 
		to drink long and deep,
		the other,
		not to sober up too soon.
					Rumi


	David Hatcher
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From: j0nez@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (J0nez)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Tunnels #1.
Date: 22 Dec 1992 23:16:55 GMT
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In article <72189@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Folks: Some suggested that we drive into the tunnel. That might
>prove interesting. It's not number one on my priority list though.
>John Winston.

What in the world COULD be number one on your priority list?  What do you DO?
You baffle me, man.

-John

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