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From: udumula@fndaug.fnal.gov (Lourdu Udumula)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X and memory
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:13:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL

Date: 2 Nov 1992 18:52:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1d3td1INN7sr@fnnews.fnal.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi,
	I have a xclient application that puts out text to label widgets 
continuously. I have about 40 label widgets in a row column. I dynamically
crate these label widgets and destroy them. I always have 40 of them up and
the rest are destroyed. The Xclient seems to be ok as far as the memory goes.
The X server ( i imagine is dyiing after two days) seems to run out of memory
or something. Could somebody tell me if there is anything wrong with the 
xclient or the X server. Any pointers to know if the X server is really 
running out of memory. By the way after two days of continuously displaying
the X server just quit. Is there any place that the X Server leaves any info
The X server is running on IBM RS6000. The xclient on sparc station.

I used 
ps vw  
to look at the various values. The size seems to be increasing 
continously for the X server process. Does this indicate the memory increase
of some sort???
Please email
udumula@fndauj.fnal.gov
Thanks,
Lourdu
From: mikep@sco.COM (Mike Patnode)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: help : Num Lock key under X11R5
Date: 4 Nov 92 23:47:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.

Date: 31 Oct 92 04:01:30 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct31.040130.10297@sco.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:

>Except for the locking aspect of this, it *is* the clients'
>responsibility: the server has no business munging either the keyboard
>mapping table or the keycodes generated as a consequence of the NumLock
>key state, and those are the only ways to have the server make NumLock
>"work".  

How about a modifier bit?  Why does every app have to be written to 
know about NumLock?  Is this what you're suggesting?

>As for the locking aspect, this is a bug (misfeature, perhaps,
>when I'm in a somewhat less fractious mood than I am now) in the
>protocol: there is no way to direct the server to software-lock a key.
>This was probably done because it is not possible for the software to
>make a key that hardware locks non-locking, but there is no reason it
>couldn't be directed to soft-lock keys that don't physically lock.

So why not just chose one way of the other, and then let the server emulate 
how the lock keys should work?  I think the Protocol designers really
dropped the ball by ignoring the PC keyboard.  They allowed for a CapsLock 
and Kanji Lock (at least via modifier bits) but not the NumLock key
which is on an estimated 50 million keyboards out there

I wouldn't be surprised if the number of X servers on PC keyboards has 
already out paced all the rest.


mp

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From: dave@exlog.com (Dave St.Clair)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X to PS
Date: 7 Nov 92 09:46:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: EXLOG, Inc.

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 20:18:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov2.201838.18870@exlog.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article 5734@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, heddle@clas01.cebaf.gov (David Heddle) writes:
>We are writing a postscript driver for a graphics intensive in-house X/Motif
>application. Our approach is to open the file, write the appropriate header,
>and to create a postscript analog to every low-level X routine. It occurs to me
>that  in our ignorance we may be taking an inefficient approach and almost
>certainly we are reinventing the wheel. My question is:
>
>Are there any public domain ps drivers (with source) ? We need to output
>ps, eps, and epsi formats.  A library of routines which includes "open" and
>"close" for the various formats as well as analog routines such as
>psDrawLine corresponding to XDrawLine would fit nicely into our scheme.
>
>Also appreciated would be any comments regarding whether or not we are
>going about this the wrong way.

Dave,

I briefly looked into this about a month ago and found a commercial product
from Bristol Technology called Xprinter.  Here's brief blurb from a brochure:

	Xprinter is for software developers who are programming to the
	Xlib layer.  Xprinter allows you to add printer support to your
	applications without having to learn PostScript or PCL commands.

It supposedly supports all the "Xlib graphic features".  It also mentions you
can copy pixmaps to a printer (and presumably to a file) via XCopyArea.

They have a demo available via ftp (I can't remember where).  I really wasn't
able to eval the product since I'm on something else right now.  If you take
a deeper look at the product, why don't you drop me a note or post?

Here's their number: (203)438-6969

dave
From: changp@CS.ColoState.EDU (philip chang)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Using X over a modem???
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:02:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Colorado State University

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 00:25:28 GMT
Message-Id: <Nov05.002528.23423@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Nov2.151430.26229@athena.mit.edu> raek@athena.mit.edu (Robyn A E Kozierok) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I am wondering if it is possible to have a machine that you are logged into
>over a modem open XWindows on your local machine if you are running X on the
>local machine.  What would you set the DISPLAY environment variable to to
>indicate this machine?
>
>The application I have in mind is running some version of X on a 486 DOS
>machine at home and using a modem to login to a unix machine at school
>(from within an Xwindow, say).  Then having that unix machine open windows
>on my PC at home.  
>
>Does "low-bandwidth" X do what I want?  Has anyone tried this with reasonable
>results?  How fast a modem is a minimum for reasonable behavior?
>
>Thanks in advance for any pointers or advice,
>--Robyn
>
>p.s. I did check the FAQ, and it gave me some ideas, but didn't quite let
>me know if what I want to do is really possible or not.
>
>thanks,
>--Robyn
 
     Can I get one too???
     My e-mail address is changp@cs.colorado.edu

     thanks in advance...
From: pizzi@nervous.com (Riccardo Pizzi)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: looking for color Xterm (X11R5)...
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:42:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Nervous XTC Public Access Unix System, Rimini, ITALY

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:20:34 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov05.142034.4174@nervous.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x

Hi there!
I remember, some time ago, an xterm capable to displaying ANSI colors much
like a normal 386/486 unix console would do... I am desperately seeking
such beast in order to compile it here under X11R5 (ISC 2.2.1/SVR3).

Does anybody know where to get it (maybe via ftp) ?

Many thanks in advance,

Rick
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From: brandy@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BRANDAUER CARL M)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XVT toolkit??
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:32:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Date: 12 Nov 92 16:49:30 GMT
Message-Id: <brandy.721586970@tramp.Colorado.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc

XVT phone number is 303-443-4223
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: FLAME, FLAME ON X!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:39:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT

Date: 10 Nov 92 17:32:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov10.173203.10719@dsd.es.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1dn1c7INNcnp@armory.centerline.com>, matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau) writes:
> In <1992Nov9.235741.25166@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
> >In article <1683@igd.fhg.de>, baumann@igd.fhg.de (Peter Baumann) writes:
> >> Short after that, a colleague of the bad-luck guy occasionally
> >> remarked, "Did you know that the X windows server never releases
> >> memory space once acquired for image display? Each new image loaded
> >> makes the X server address space grow until there's no more available."
> >> And added, "This is a well-known bug of X". Well-known. Well...
> 
> >Care to tell us in which vendor's X is this a bug? I've certainly
> >never heard of it before.
> 
> This sounds like a third-hand version of the oft-heard complaint that 
> most X11 servers will never release memory *back to the operating system*;
> i.e., that once the X server has allocated a huge chunk of memory for, 
> say, an image, that memory will never be made available to any other 
> application running on the same system.

Yes but this doesn't sound like what the guy's describing. If this is
just free() only freeing memory back to the process, then starting the
same X client over again and walking it through the same sequence of
tasks should not cause the server process size to grow, because the
memory it freed before is still available to it.

The story as originally posted sounded like a server leak, and I
certainly don't know of this being a "well-known bug" in any vendor's
X implementation.
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
From: randy@dsndata.dsndata.com (Randy Terbush)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Compiling X Sources Under Dell SVR4
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:31:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Design Data

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 23:09:40 GMT
Message-Id: <RANDY.92Nov3170935@dsndata.dsndata.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.windows.x

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Evans <tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com> writes:

  Tim> I've just started trying to cpile X stuff under Dell SVR4,
  Tim> Issue 2.2 and am consistently finding that Makefiles generated
  Tim> with xmkmf, setting "CC = cc -Xa", inevitably fail to compile
  Tim> the source.  In each case, a string of similar "syntax errors"
  Tim> referring to standard system include files are generated.  If,
  Tim> howerver, I redefine the CC macro in the Makefiles, the stuff
  Tim> generally compiles OK, or at least doesn't generate the
  Tim> spurious syntax errors.

  Tim> Is this something Dell-specific?  SVR4-specific?  The 'xmkmf'
  Tim> man page says:

As I understand (from Dell), they have an "internal" version of 'gcc'
call 'cc' which will accept the '-Xa' etc. arguments used by 'cc'.  For
some unknown reason, Dell felt that they needed to provide X11R5 so
that it appears to be compiled by 'cc' and therefore uses 'cc' when
using 'xmkmf'.

IMHO - The best way to fix this, is to modify
/usr/X5/lib/X11/config/x386.cf to force the use of gcc for CcCmd.

  Tim> Does this mean that the definition of the CC macro is always set to
  Tim> "cc -Xa"?  And that the resulting Makefiles will always have to be
  Tim> edited to specify gcc?

Yup.  Unless you change the above mentioned file.
From: terry@nambe.santafe.edu (Terry Jones)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xaw dialog widgets questions...
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:39:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Santa Fe Institute

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 02:18:58 GMT
Message-Id: <TERRY.92Nov4191858@nambe.santafe.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I have a couple of questions about Athena dialog widgets.

I am trying to construct a few data entry forms. Each has a number of
dialog widgets in it, which correspond to the fields that must be
entered. Perhaps this is not the best way to go about doing this, I
don't know (I am open to suggestions). In any case:

1) The dialogs have widths that are all completely different. I have
   tried adjusting them via resources, but to no avail. Ideally I
   would like all the dialog widgets to be equally wide and for each 
   label and value subwidget to be equally wide. I hope this makes
   sense: I just want something that looks neat instead of the
   ragged-right appearance I currently have. 

   Something seems to be stopping me from getting what I want. I don't
   know if it is the containing form, the dialogs or the widgets they
   contain. Surely this must be a commonly addressed need...?


2) Currently, the data entry forms are tall and skinny. I would like to
   have them shorter and fatter. For this, it would be nice to have
   the dialog's value widget appear to the right of the label widget.
   I can't seem to make this happen though. I can get it to the right,
   but it always appears below the label. I have tried the obvious
   XtNfromVert from the dialog widget above. Is this a policy decision
   of the dialog widget that I can't change?


Currently I am toying with the idea of cutting out the middle person
and sacking the dialogs altogether. Then I can plop a bunch of labels
and text widgets down on the form (presumably) where I want them.

What is "normally" done by people wanting to create this sort of
environment?

Thanks a lot,
Terry Jones.
From: optima!dsiegel@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (Dave Siegel)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Compiling X Sources Under Dell SVR4
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:19:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 2 Nov 92 11:27:16 GMT
Message-Id: <24954@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.windows.x

From article <tkevans.720636766@eplrx7.es.dupont.com>, by tkevans@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Tim Evans):
> Does this mean that the definition of the CC macro is always set to
> "cc -Xa"?  And that the resulting Makefiles will always have to be
> edited to specify gcc?


I was just doing some of this tonight, in fact.  I couldn't get anything to 
compile by substituting gcc.  1) because gcc doesn't have a -Xa option, and 2)
because I got worse results without the -Xa and gcc, than with cc -Xa.

I did actually get my programs compiled (gspreview, and ghostview 1.4), finally
after much editing, and hair-pulling, of the Makefile.  I got a *large* 
number of errors, though, a good number of them related to ANSI C stylistic
changes, etc.

btw, none of my install's ever work, due to some wierd install -c problem.
I've just been changing the install -c to cp.  /shrug

-dave

(btw, am running Dell Unix Issue 2.2 as well)

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From: beardsl@mepsi.mobil.com (Reginald Beardsley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X support services
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:29:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mobil Exploration and Producing Services, Inc.

Date: 6 Nov 92 20:31:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.203123.11413@mobil.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for an organization which provides multiplatform X  & Motif support
services.  At a minimum I need someone who can supply complete binaries
for Silicon Graphics, Sun4, DECstation, HP 9000/7xx, RS/6000.  More would 
be nice.  This would require more than just being able to compile on all the 
platforms.  We work with highly heterogeneous networks.  The skew in delivery
dates for X releases from the hardware vendors is a very serious problem
for application delivery.

E-mail please.

 

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beardsl@dal.mobil.com
(214)-851-8547
From: achan@idaho.tdd.sj.nec.com (Amy Chan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Which version of x server am I running?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:23:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:18:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.221818.27330@sj.nec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Nov6.215837.23500@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Bagade) writes:
>
>Dear x-users,
>
>How do I find out which version of X server am I running?

Run the program "xdpyinfo". It will give you the vendor information and 
version of the X server for your display.


Amy

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From: cognac!h01!falcon@sunpitt.East.Sun.COM (Larry Dunn x5894 )
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Language Translators
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:47:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:43:09 EST
Message-Id: <9211051943.AA03725@h01.pgh.wec.com>

We are in the process of looking for someone who may have a software/hardware combination package that will take information in a foreign language (German, Russian, French, etc) and translate it into English.  The package should also have a scanner that will allow users to take documents and enter them without having to spend time or money typing the documents into the system.

If you are aware of anything like this please respond to me.

Thank you in advance,

Larry Dunn   

e-mail address: sunpitt!cognac!t-bird1!falcon
   
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From: merklin@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ed Kemo)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: pull down windows
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:18:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: /etc/organization

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:43:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov9.204348.16796@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hello....
I am trying to create a system within X that will allow me to do the following:

1. edit a scanned in image or document
2. use pull down menu to fill in certain text fields

if anyone has any tips on how to do this please email me at
merklin@gnu.ai.mit.edu
thanks very much
From: scot@bristol.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: PS/PCL output of my program?
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:41:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bristol Technology Inc.

Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:20:53 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.172053.21508@bristol.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.motif

In article <bibhas.721023956@femto.engr.mun.ca>, bibhas@nano.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
|> Hi,
|> I'm drawing some lines and text on the screen. Hard copy of the work is
|> needed. I was wondering if someone has routines for PS/PCL output. I could
|> just call them instead of XDrawLine/XDrawText when ever opted for.
|> Thanks...
|> Bibhas.


Xprinter 2.0 is what you need!  It provides an Xlib printer interface for PostScript and PCL,
In your situtation, all you would have to do is change XDrawLine to XpDrawLine and
add the logic for opening the printer.  It's that easy!!!  

For a demo: ftp to ftp.uu.net and get vendor/Bristol/Xprinter/xp.sun4.tar.Z

For more info:  email to info@bristol.com


					Scot Wingo


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Internet: scot@bristol.com           Makers of Motif HyperHelp and   
For Info: info@bristol.com           Xprinter, components of Wind/U.
For demos: anonymous ftp ftp.uu.net, vendor/Bristol directory.
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From: arne@mango.mef.ki.se (Arne Elofsson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: HPGL Viewer wanted !
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:29:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway

Date: 4 Nov 92 09:37:14 GMT
Message-Id: <9211040936.AA20217@mango.mef.ki.se>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Is there a HPGL viewer for X ?
Preferably tested on an IBM RS/6000. 
Please answer through E-mail.
arne@mango.mef.ki.se
From: awbernec@uncc.edu (Anthony W Bernecky)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: art program for X11
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:36:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:23:09 GMT
Message-Id: <Bx7vqM.7uu@unccsun.uncc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

 Can Anyone help me find a program to create pictures, color, fill, the whole bit for SunOs X11. I have found xpaint2b2 but can not get it to compile.
        Helppppppp?

                                     awbernec@mosaic.uncc.edu
From: dwb@a2.cim.cdc.com (Dave Block x4621)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: ASCII Co.  & Japanese
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:30:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 12 Nov 92 21:01:24 GMT
Message-Id: <49595@shamash.cdc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Does anyone know how to contact ASCII Co.?   They supposedly have a version of Motif 1.1 for the SUN
that works with SUN's JLE (Japanese Language Environment).  We have a Motif application that we
would like to add Japanese  support to, and this seems like the easiest way to go.

Thanks.
From: gh@lsil.com (George Hadjidakis 4610)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Multi-process XDraws
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:15:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: LSI Logic Microprocessor Group

Date: 4 Nov 92 23:02:24 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov4.230224.18741@lsil.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


---
|> Process A creates an X Window ( Window win; ).  Sends the win value via
|> a socket to Process B.
|> Process B (apparently successfully) creates a gc using the win value.
|> BUT the XDraw functions to win do nothing.  There is no error, yet nothing
|>								      -------
|> is drawn in the X Window.  Is this legal under X?
|>---------------------------

Are you sure? 
I ve had the same exact setup and problem.
The reason was that when I was running in ASYNCHRONOUS mode, X_req. buffering would
prevent the drawing to show up in the window until the buffer was flushed.
Try flushing after the first draw.

--George
From: curtis@NeoSoft.com (Curtis Keller)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Drawing in XOR mode in a user-specified color
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:17:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 13:45:54 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov03.134554.28619@NeoSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.intrinsics


Is there a method of setting up a XOR GC to allow a user
to "draw" in a rubberbanding fashion in a specified color? 
I'm constrained to using shared colormap cell - so I can not
pre-allocate an entire colormap.  I'm able to setup the XOR to
draw and erase properly - but the displayed XOR color is sometimes
less than optimal - so if I could allow the user to set the XOR 
color - the results would be more appealing.
 
Any hints appreciated.
curtis
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