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From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Re: Star Wars pinball
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:46:21 GMT

sbb@panix.com (Steve Baumgarten) writes:

>One thing I like about CREATURE was that you can abort the "bonus
>countdown" song and dance by pressing a flipper button (I think the
>instruction card even mentions this).  That's one change I'd put into
>the "home version" of the TAF ROMs -- I suspect those long bonus
>countdowns get a little tiring if you own the game and have seen it
>all before, many, many times.

I haven't seen Creature (just found out there's one five miles from my house
and will be there soonest ...), but could you imagine waiting for Hurricane to
count up an incredibly large 6x bonux ?  I got one like that and I think it sat
there adding up the points (one at a time, calculator like) for two or three
minutes.  By the time it finished, the pitch of the bonus song had risen almost
three octaves above its starting point.

Oh well ... anyone know of a Dr Who in the Atlanta area ?////////////

- Jonathan
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From: "Paul D. Boyer" <wk01161@worldlink.com>
Subject: Pinball in Annapolis?
Organization: SAIC, Annapolis MD
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 12:57:46 GMT
X-Mailer: WORLDLink (3.11)

I've been listening intently to all your comments about interesting pins.

Now, does anyone know where the best place to play in the Annapolis
Maryland (Crofton/Bowie) area would be?

I would like to find TAF at least.

Thanks for being there.

Paul
From: dmurray@croatia.eng.hou.compaq.com (David Murray)
Subject: Re: TAF megahigh scores
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:07:55 GMT

I got 1.2 Billion on TAF.  Lit the mansion 4 times.  I would like to purchase a used machine in the Houston area.  Contact me at the email address listed below if you have info on how to get one.


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From: capek@rtsg.mot.com (Tom Capek @708-632-6633)
Subject: TAF Credit Limit
Keywords: TAF
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:46:56 GMT

Played around with the programming of my TAF this weekend.  While the
Operating Manual states that 10 is the maximum number of credits allowed,
and is probably supported with the old L-2 ROMs, the newest L-7 ROMs
allow 99 credits to be earned/paid for/displayed.
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From: ung@felix.filenet.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Pinball plastics
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:40:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Well, once again, I picked up a new set of HIGH SPEED plastics from CA
Robinson in California.  The first set I ordered from the San Francisco
office ($83.00), which was missing several items.  The second batch I
ordered from the Los Angeles office ($99.95), which was only missing one
tiny bit of shrubbery ... I decided I'll live with it.  Both arrived in
a clear plastic bag semi-sealed with masking tape and had '541' (the
game's ID#) written on it with a magic marker.  Highly professional.

Anyway, I'm kinda interested in keeping these things as new as possible.
I'd like to know if there are ways to keep the paint from scratching off
too easily.  Something like Cover-Your-Glass, only for plastics.  I'm
also interested to know more about something I heard about a long time
ago.  Color photocopying the plastics and then perhaps getting them
transferred to new plastic.  This was done as an attempt to revive old,
broken plastics, but if I've got a brand-new set, why not start there?
Anyways, any information would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, still looking for an extra HIGH SPEED bumper cap.  I don't suppose
anyone out there has one?  Please??  Too bad the plastics set doesn't
include them :-(

Bill Ung
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From: Rob_Rosenhouse@hq-bbs.wisdom.bubble.org (Rob Rosenhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Williams releases 75-79?
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:59:13 GMT
Organization: Headquarters BBS (Morristown, NJ)

In a message dated Thu  1 Jan 93 11:57, Randy@halcyon.com (c. Brandon Gresh
wrote:

 RBG> Just returned from twelve years overseas.

 RBG> Just before I left the States I became 'addicted' to a machine
 RBG> recently released
 RBG> by Williams. I would certainly help me track it down if I could
 RBG> remember
 RBG> the name for sure.

 RBG> It was one of the first to incorporate a 'voice' as part of the
 RBG> sound of
 RBG> the game.

If it was 'THE FIRST' pinball to feature voice, then it was Gorgar.  

 RBG> Is there any way to obtain a list of the machines released by
 RBG> Williams
 RBG> in the period 1976-1979?

I will be posting a listing shortly will all solid state games.


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From: roy@ecgcurly.UUCP (ecghub   Roy Kern)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: EBD bulb replacement & Squawk and Talk ROMs
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:40:48 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Cad Group

In article <1992Dec19.202512.7169@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
> Also, I finally got a complete copy of the manual and the part number listed
> for bulbs is #44.  All the bulbs in my machine are #555.  What are the
I believe these two bulbs are identical except for their socket type.  The 44
pushes down and then turns to lock it in, whereas the 555 is in a peanut type
holder where you just push it in.  The bases of these two bulbs is what's
different, or at least I'm pretty sure.  I have both at home, so I'll check
this evening.  email me if you want more info.

> How do you replace the bulbs that are NOT in those convenient screw in
> holders, such as the 50k and Special lights for the playfield Deluxe?  These
These holders are for the 555, aka the peanut shaped bulbs mentioned above.
The screw in holders are for the 44's (in case what I mentioned above made
no sense).  What I do to replace the bulbs under the playfield is to bend the
socket back until the bulb clears the playfield and then just yank the old
and insert the new.

Roy.
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From: roy@ecgcurly.UUCP (ecghub   Roy Kern)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Weird old pin sighted
Summary: Yep.
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:49:05 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Cad Group

In article <johnsh-201292212229@mustang.stu.rpi.edu>, johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
> Turnpike last night (route 9, runs through the Poconos) and they had this
> weird, old-looking pin called "Strange Science." Does anyone remember this
> game? It wasn't really challenging (5 balls per game, and I got a replay on

Yup.  I have one as a matter of fact (not much longer though - I've sold it).
Tough game.  You have to be very accurate on this game otherwise its drain
city.  Do you remember what score you needed to get a replay?

When you get 5-ball multi-ball on this game, it spits the balls out at you
one at a time with about a .5 second interval.  Pretty hectic, but that's
where the big points are.  Playfield multi-plier is 12, 9, 6, and 3 - for 5, 4,
3, and 2 ball multi-ball, respectively (as you slowly drain balls).

Roy.
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From: Zio zZz <zio@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Weird old pin sighted
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 02:03:22 PST
Distribution: us
Organization: The Land of Garg

johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:

> Stopped at a rest stop along the northeastern extention of the Pennsylvania
> Turnpike last night (route 9, runs through the Poconos) and they had this
> weird, old-looking pin called "Strange Science." Does anyone remember this
> game? It wasn't really challenging (5 balls per game, and I got a replay on
> the only quarter that I put in the machine), but it had a kind of
> quirkiness that made it fun to play.  Apparently, the game featured
> "five-ball multiball." Unfortunately, I didn't figure out how to lock balls
> for a little while, so I never got the opportunity to see this.  Must be
> quite a sight.
> 

I used to play this pin at Disneyland-So.Cal.  I used to play for hours 
on one coin.  Why?  Because all I had to do was a Track&Field style 
tapping on the metal bar on the front top over the glass and get 
multiplier up the kazam.  On top of that, the replay was 520,000 points, 
which I occasionally got in just ball 1.  Then when I had enough, I would 
leave the game and give the credits to some very appreciative kid just 
wandering by.  Once I gave a kid 28 free games (when it was set to 30 max 
credits).  A few months later it was set to 10 max, with a replay of 
approx 1 Million (still piece of cake).  They still hadn't caught on to 
the trick for well over two years.  I guess the thing finally was doing 
the funkies without the tapping, and they decided to junk it.  Oh 
well...it sure was cool to see the absolute look of amazement and joy on 
a kids face when I handed 15 or 20 free credits to him/her/them!!

And yes, 5 ball Multiball was definitely a sight...almost as cool as the 
5 ball Multiball on Heavy Metal Countdown (or was it Meltdown?).


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From: nin15b0b@merrimack.edu (David E. Sheafer)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Matching
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:18:59 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec21.234037.12246@clipper.ingr.com>, jimmy@clipper.ingr.com (Jimmy Blair) writes:
> 
> 
> 	This may be a dumb question, but is matching really random?
> 	I ask because I played Dr. Who for a couple of hours one
> 	night and matched four times.  On the other hand, I've
> 	played Fish Tales much more and never matched.  Maybe
> 	Dr. Who is more generous because (IMHO) it sucks, especially
> 	by comparison with Fish Tales. 
> 	    Dr. Who is a good concept
> 	game, but it's too repetitive -- wasting time charging
> 	the transmat with the long boring shot to the upper left,
> 	and then clanking away 15 times at the transmat when it
> 	raises.  The targets on the transmat deaden the ball
> 	too much, and the far right target is in a shadow zone.
> 	The playfield is really a throwback to the past when
> 	there was usually a row of targets across the top and
> 	long rows down both sides.  My final complaint is the 
> 	third flipper, so I guess I can't mention the video mode...
> 	

  sort of but not really any more,  the percentage of matches is operator
settable, but this doesn't mean it will for example if set at 10% match
every 10th game.  The way I understand it is, the match is random, but if
say the game has only matched 5% of the time, it will match to bring up
the match percentage to what is set & vica versa.

  feel free to correct me if I'm wrong


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Subject: Re: Fish Tales Special (was Re: Eight Ball Deluxe difficulty)
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:55:24 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <-6l2dkc@rpi.edu>, sigma@degas.ipl.rpi.edu (Kevin Martin) writes:
>Stephen Jonke <jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
>>Actually, I wouldn't be suprised if it's just a setting there too.  For
>>instance, Fish Tails has Special lights on the outlanes, but I've never seen
>>them lit.  Either I've never triggered the event that lights them, or it's
>>disabled.  I suspect the latter since I've played FT quite a bit.  There
>>aren't any other special lights, though.
>
>OK, now I'm curious.  How DO you light the Special on FT?  I think I know
>how to light the Super Jackpot now (of course, the nearest machine is a
>couple of hundred miles away, at least).
>
>Anyone, anyone?
>

I recall once i was playing and got the special lit by just pounding on
that center "death trap" pad...(yea, the one that make ya lose the ball down
the middle all the time).


>-- 
>Kevin Martin
>sigma@ipl.rpi.edu
>"I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY didn't you BELIEVE me?!"

Jim
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From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Good TLA's needed
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:22:34 GMT

I'm the wizard on our local PinBot game and I decided I wouldn't put my
name in unless I got at least 5 million points.  As they reset the high
scores weekly I get on the board a lot with scores under 5 million.  So,
what are some good TLA's (three letter acronyms) I can use?  Right now I'm
using grr, arg, foo, bar, and aww.  I'm avoiding 'obscene' ones, they're
only funny for a day or two.

jim

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From: sbb@panix.com (Steve Baumgarten)
Subject: Re: New Data East: ROCKY & BULLWINKLE
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:36:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.043520.20400@eskimo.com> victim@eskimo.com (Tony Garton) writes:

   yea, but it's a DE, which means it will self-destruct two weeks after
   it's on location...

Oh fooey on this!  Broadway got its WHITEWATER in and one day later
Big Foot had a nervous breakdown and started shedding parts (he wasn't
bolted together all so very well, and pieces started dropping off).  

Does this mean I should post something saying that all Williams games
are pieces of junk? 

I don't see that Data East games fail so much more frequently or
sooner than Williams games; anyone have any hard evidence to the
contrary?  I realize how much fun it is to make snide remarks about
the company, but let's make sure we have our facts straight before we
assume that their games are just flash-in-the-pan pieces of junk.

To bad we don't have any operators in this group (though even if we
did, it's such a touchy subject that I doubt any would be willing to
speak up).

How about people with wider experience than just what their local
pizzeria or bar gets in?  Let's see if we can collect some facts here,
rather than just a bunch of anecdotes...

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From: lfs@mitre.org (Lyman F. Sheats Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: I liked Black Rose...
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:11:28 GMT
	<1992Dec29.221421.9111@nwnexus.WA.COM>
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.

In article <1992Dec29.221421.9111@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:

>	I _like_ Black Rose.  While the score could be taken off any .mod
>file, it's still a good score.  The table art is *very* good, although
>the backglass artist needs to learn his female anatomy better.

Hey.  Are you the guy who either wrote or posted all those Master Wade
stories?

>	Star Wars... now *that's* a turkey.

Yeah, well, I feel that Star Wars is quite busy and plays very clunky.
I just can't seem to find one smooth shot on this game.  Even the ones
that seem to have been designed to be smooth feel clunky.

A lot of the software from LW3 appears to have been reused, like the ramp,
and the runaway to R2D2, to name a couple.  And yes, I do like a rubber post
between my return lane and my outlane.  And yes, I do like a kickback that
doesn't require taking the glass off or losing the ball to get the thing
relit.

One thing I really miss on this game is an upper right flipper.  I just
realized how much I really like those loop shots from left to right that
follow with a shot from an upper right flipper.  I can't even recall the
last Data East game that was made with more than two flippers.  Torpedo
Alley, maybe?  Couldn't be.  That was either their second or third game.

And what's the deal with the "let's detract from the general appearence of
our game" piece of el-cheapo Darth Vader plastic on top of the backbox?
Major yucko.  Major, MAJOR yucko.

And is it just me, or does R2D2 just kind of jump around and not even
get involved with the play of the game?  I mean, at least THING on TAF
locked balls for multiball.  All I ever see R2D2 do is jump up and down.
I bet if he broke, no one would even notice.

Those are my complaints.  Any good things to say?  Not really.  It's an
average Data East game.  Maybe it's just me, but these people have been
at it for a while, and I'm sure they're capable, but I really don't see
them doing a game better than LW3.  Perhaps I should wait until I see
Rocky and Bullwinkle or Jurassic Park before I dismiss them from the
category of those capable of designing a great game.  Playable, sometimes,
but great?  I don't know.  These people have had a lot of time and I've
yet to see anything exceptional from them.

--
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From: norris@madmag.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: MAD Money by Sega
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:16:14 GMT


	I'm looking the slot machine MAD Money by Sega. I believe it
	was produced in England in the early '60s. It has Alfred E.
	Neuman featured. Three Alfreds and you hit the jackpot.

	Ed Norris	PH: 508-365-7628
	91 Kelly Dr
	Lancaster MA 01523
	U.S.A. 

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From: ba005@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacey Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Fish Tales
Date: 25 Dec 1992 02:36:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Gosh, I love this game.  I have most of the special stuff 
figured out, but I would like to know more of the tips and such
on playing it.
 
I read in one post on here that there was a little rules list
or something like that on it.  Could someone please send me a 
copy of that?
 
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From: "terry cumming" <terry.cumming@canrem.com>
Subject: lure of silver ball
Reply-To: "terry cumming" <terry.cumming@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:45:23 EST

I am selling "Pinball - Lure of the Silver Ball" by Gary Flower
and Bill Kurtz for US$14.95. It came out in 1988 and is about 128 pages.
It covers all aspects of the game with alot if color game phtos, etc.

Send a cheque or money order to:
Terry Cumming
28 Hawkridge Ave
Markham, Ontario
Canada L3P 1V7

Magazines:\
Pinball Trader
P.O. Box 141155
Austin, Texas
78714-1155

pinGame journal
31937 Olde Frankin Drive
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48334

The Flipside
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Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain)
Subject: Wherefore art thou, Remy? (Was: Re: Best and Worst of '92)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:06:31 GMT

In <1992Dec28.215908.17524@clipper.ingr.com> jimmy@clipper.ingr.com (Jimmy Blair) writes:

>	Wouldn't it be interesting if we had a reader survey
>	of the 92 pins?  I don't have an exhaustive list
>	of what came out in '92 ( I probably couldn't even
>	name more than four ), so I'm certainly not qualified
>	to run this sort of thing.  Maybe somebody out there
>	is...

Looks like it's high time again for the (semi-annual? - it's been a while!)
Pinball Poll. How about it, Remy?

Marty.
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From: roy@ecgcurly.UUCP (ecghub   Roy Kern)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: New Data East: ROCKY & BULLWINKLE
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:01:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola Cellular Cad Group

In article <BzyC3x.C6D@chinet.chi.il.us>, koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz) writes:
> This machine looks GREAT.  There's a real backglass here (is this a trend?)
Let's hope so.  I am not a fan of translites.

> There are tons of very clear samples from the show, especially R & B.
A truly adult cartoon show, I might add.

> Oh yeah the machine I played was a Just for Fun at Rt 12 and Palatine in
> Arlington Heights (IL).  Midway is also beta testing 'NBA Jam' here as well.
> Kinda neat looking.  Give it a try.  Gotta run!
Is this the arcade that is in the Town and Country mall?  If so, they also
have an SF2 pinball in there that is marked with a big "Prototype Machine" 
sticker on it.  I saw only Data East and Gottlieb pins in this arcade.  Very
interesting.  No wait, I saw that mini Nintendo pinball as well.  :)

Roy.
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