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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Subject: Re: Swapthing/Alan Moore
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:24:13 GMT

In article <76624@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.015952.6776@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Jul24.194150.6748@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> grimm@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Jerry Michael Grimm) writes:
>>>Hmm, it been a while since I've seen any info requests for
>>>Swapthing on the subject line.
>>>Wasn't Swapthing a character created by Alan Moore just after his
>>>[Original Swapthing joke deleted]
>>[Followup Swapthing joke deleted]
>
>Okay, guys, when are we gonna be able to get official r.a.c. Swapthing 
>t-shirts? And who do we get to do the artwork?

Well, I believe Swappy first showed up in '69 Mad margin thingie by Aragones,
and of course he'd be perfect.  But the follow-up mini by Foglio is the
definitive rendition of Swappy (before it went x-rated, of course). Both
of these guys are probably too busy.  How about Michael Gilbert?  Don't let
Dean Motter near it.  The key here is being able to draw busy, after all
Swappy looks like a tornado slurping up garage sales.  Of course, Curt Swan
should have drawn the LNH crossover, 'stead of that Grell upstart.

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Lobo's Back #3
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:49:27 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280

>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:58:54 GMT, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) said:

rdippold> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>I've been off the net for about the last month, so I don't know if
>this has been mentioned or not.  I heard it a a couple of weeks ago
>from my sister, who works in a comics shop.  Apparently, DC will not
>be releasing Lobo's Back #3, because, on the cover of #2, the artist
>slipped in a certain portion of the male anatomy that wasn't spotted
>by the censors (it's on Lobo/Bimbo's left arm, right near the elbow,
>if you care to look).  If anyone else can confirm or deny this,
>please let me know.  I have no idea how this will affect other Lobo
>comics, such as Lobo's Back #4 (would be strange without #3), Lobo's
>Blazing Chain of Love,
>Lobo: Infanticide, etc. 

rdippold> Well good grief, Disney can do it with the Little Mermaid, but Lobo
rdippold> (For Mature Audiences Only) can't?

I checked out my copy after I read this, and ya, I guess there was a
subliminal drawing in the arm. Big deal. I can't see them cancelling
the rest of the series becaues of it. I figure the worst that can
happen is if cover 3 has the same sort of thing they can change the
cover.
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From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Subject: Re: Jewish Superheros
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:56:19 GMT

In article <76335@ut-emx.uucp> danfrank@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel Frank) writes:

>Colossal Boy: Jo Nah was revealed to be Jewish around the time 
>   Phoenix died. Fred Hembeck did a cartoon where Jo is learning
>   Hebrew and complaining about the retcon.

Umm, Jo Nah was "Ultra Boy."


>Magneto: I know that the reason he wants mutants to rule the world
>   was the result of his experiences in the Holocaust and that 
>   Professor X met him in Israel. However, has Marvel ever said that
>   he was Jewish? His kids, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch, aren't
>   Jewish unless their mother is. (Anyone know?)

Actually, it's been strongly hinted that Magnus was Rom [Gypsy] by
birth.


>Marvel also had some team that consisted of Earthpeople who were in
>   training for godhood or something. I don't remember the name but
>   one of them was from Israel

Are you sure you're not thinking of DC's "New Guardians?"


>That's all I know. I'd appreciate any info to make the list more 
>complete. Anything at all, no matter how obscure the company or even
>a well-Israel-has-a-superhero-we-just-don't-see-him-that-often.

Well, there were a couple of appearances in the early-to-mid-'70s
of a feature in NATIONAL LAMPOON called "Son O' God Comics," about
a nice Jewish boy from the Bronx who happens to be Y*H*W*H*'s son.
He falls in front of a train and cries "Jesus Christ! This is going
to hurt!" -- and discovers at that point that the words "Jesus Christ"
transform him into that radical new superhero, SON O' GOD.  Faster
than a speeding matzohball, etc.

I remember it as being quite funny but I haven't seen it in something
going on 20 years. . .


		He's got a mask that's black and white
		  Mine's just black but that's all right
		In silence and cunning he plies his trade
		  I ply mine in silence and shade
		[. . .]
		In the heart of the city it's murder time
		  It ain't no crime to kill a mime
			-- "Killing a Mime" by Visual Purple

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
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Subject: Re: Shade <was Shade was not None>
From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:14:01 GMT
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <3130@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>
>Thats good because a lot of fans of the Spandix-suited do-gooders want to
>be tied into it either; the feeling is reciprical.  Although if it DOES
>start intersecting  with the DC universe I think Giffin should be able
>give Shade a recharacterization.

I'm not sure I have any idea what this post is trying to say (must have been
*really* late) but if they let Giffen anywhere near Shade I'll seriously
consider fire-bombing the DC offices.  OK, maybe I'll just visit ye olde
vomitorium.

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
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From: Seth.Ness@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Seth Ness)
Subject: dominic fortune
Keywords: iron man, dominic fortune
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:56:55 GMT

hi, does anyone know if,where,and how the dominic fortune storyline
in iron man 212-213 was resolved? please email to me as i don't read
this group regularly.
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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
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Subject: Re: Infinity War...Geez...
Keywords: Reality, Gem, whereabouts, turkey, ham, cheese, killer-nazi-clowns
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <jim.2a7551f6-n@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes...
>goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) writes:
>>	Hm. Perhaps the Watcher? I don't believe we've seen him yet,
>>which is a bit odd considering how cosmic it's all been getting.
> 
>Maybe, perhaps... it's Franklin ;)

Nope.
It's Aunt May.

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From: mwinston@lust.reed.edu (Michael J. Winston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: LSH #33 -- spoilers
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:43:17 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Jul29.153915.5848@iscsvax.uni.edu>  
levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> 
>         Remarks on LSH #33:

>         As far as the story goes, well, that's another matter entirely.   
Poor
> story again on the parts of Giff and T&M B.  
                              ^^^^
If you look at this issue's credits, Giffen has nothing to do with this  
"story".

>They seemed to have been building
> up to this issue for quite awhile, and this ending (sort of) seems to be
> anticlimatic.  Not even the appearance of the Emerald Eye saved it for  
me. 
> But, then maybe now we'll get some answers about what's happening with
> Celeste.  
>         A question for those that have read.  Are Crystal Kid, Danelle  
Foccart 
> and those other two mystery kids slated to be part of the LEGIONARES  
series?  

Yes.

> Who is the Asain kid that was standing there?  And if Crystal Kid is  
supposed 
> to be a member, isn't he in his thirties like everyone else.  Or at  
least the 
> age of Grev Mallor (Shadow Lad)?
The Asian kid is new to the series.  Crystal Kid was in a pod, so he's  
probably a clone or something.

>         Oh, and one last thing.  I never really remembered Kid Quantum  
from the
> last three incarnations of this book, so maybe he never really existed 
> before.  But, if so, was he always black?  For some strange reason I was  
under 
> the impression that he was white...is it a retcon?  

I'm pretty sure he's new.  Otherwise we'd all have known before this that  
Ferro Lad wasn't the first Legionnaire to die.


Michael J. Winston
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Reality Gem.
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:13:16 GMT

In article <Bs3rDJ.JnA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Victor VonDoom) writes:
>Where did you read this? I haven't seen anything about these guys in
>a few years, but the guy I saw in the (I think) Quasar issue looked
>a lot like the Beyonder, and he had this scruffy looking guy next to him
>who looked a lot like MM. I think they were standing in a circle 
>talking to a bunch of the cosmic big-shots...

Hmm...  Has anyone got a complete list of post-SW appearances of the Beyonder?
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From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Subject: Re: Good Comics
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:59:40 GMT

Has anyone out there read "Bone?"  It is an incredibly funny
comic.  I recommend you try it out.

Roland

PS: Don't buy it if you're looking for superheroes punchin' each other

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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Mr. Mxyztplk/Mxyzptlk
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:07:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.051841.29914@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> nschultz@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ned W Schultz) writes:
>My six-year old spied the spelling change from Golden Age Mr. Mxyztplk to
>Silver Age Mr. Mxyzptlk...and he wants to know "WHY?".  Can someone give
>me the concise, fairly-advanced-kindergartener explanation for this
>change?  Perhaps it was a prank to vex fathers?

It was of course a mistake, but it was later explained as an Earth-1/Earth-2
difference.  The golden age version (tp) was Earth-2, the silver age version
(pt) was Earth-1.  It's 1992, and Crisis was 1985, so your six-year-old wasn't
even _alive_ for Earth-2.  Whether this makes explaining it difficult, I can't
say.

(Also, on the golden age [Earth-2] version, _everyone_ had to say Mxyztplk's
name backwards to return home, and in the silver age [Earth-1] version,
everyone had to say _their_own_ name backwards to return home....)
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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Give Galactus "HIS" due
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:15:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <l7ddp6INN83t@male.EBay.Sun.COM> laker@eb5ts2.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian McInerney) writes:
>
>	What I would like to see....
>
>	is the Silver Surfer...with Galactus....traveling to an unknown
>	part of the universe...and they come upon a large structure that 
>	dwarfs Galactus's huge world ship...Big G and SS enter...and a voice
>	says..."you have done well", and Galactus answers, "thank you,
>	Creator"....the Silver Surfer, of course, freaks out!!! 
>	...and out of the shadows appears....(now that would be telling)

Interestingly enough, this is close to the plot of "The Last Galactus" 
story that appeared in one of the EPIC magazines before it folded. 
Unfortunately the magazine folded right about where the above paragraph
ends. As far as I know, the story was never ended.
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From: otto@gawain.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Selina Kyle / Wonder Woman confusion in "Dark Knight Returns" ?
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:00:09 GMT

All thru "Dark Knight Returns" we keep seeing these familiar figures from
Batmans past.  The one I haven't really figured out is why the proprietor
of Kyle Escorts, Selina Kyle, who as far as I know used to be the Catwoman,
ends up hogtied dressed up as Wonder Woman by Joker.

At another point of the story supes is thinking something like "Diana went
back to her people and Hal went to the stars".  I thought this referred to
WW going back to the amazons or whatever (would Hal be Green Lantern) ?

Sorry if this has been hashed dead before, I may have had my brain switched
off at that moment...
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From: mas@csa.bu.edu (Mark A. Semich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Free JSA #1? (was Re: Justice Society #1  : BUY IT)
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:06:33 GMT
Organization: The Internet
In-reply-to: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu's message of 20 Jul 92 17:09:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.170903.107556@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes about JSA #1:

>I definitely recommend picking this up...

Well, I liked this a lot and picked it up when it came out, but just
today when I got  home I discovered a copy of JSA #1 had been mailed
to me by DC comics!

I don't subscribe to any comics and have no idea how DC got my name and
address.  Does anyone know anything about this?  Did DC mail out a
bunch of JSA #1's to CBG subscribers?  Will I keep getting the series?

Not that I don't *like* getting free comics in the mail, I'm just kind
of curious...

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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Wolverine, Iron Fist, Sabertooth
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:40:01 GMT
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: julien

In article <31JUL199209280592@utkvx3.utk.edu>, sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:
> I think a really good conflict would be between Wolverine, Iron Fist and
> Sabertooth...after all, Sabertooth WAS an Iron Fist villian to begin with...
> 
> John Byrne and Jae Lee will be doing a new Iron Fist book next summer...
> Should be good!

How did Iron Fist get back from K'un L'un (or is that L'uney T'unes?)?
Last I remember, the whole gateway to there closed up and walked away.
Has he been back?

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From: s1070422@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Damien Binding)
Subject: Re: FINN - in 2000AD
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:15:23 GMT

In article <10726446.101.712225022@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.002225.12454@cs.uow.edu.au> u9035281@cs.uow.edu.au (Paul John Davis) writes:
>>From: u9035281@cs.uow.edu.au (Paul John Davis)
>>Subject: FINN - in 2000AD
>>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:22:25 GMT
>
>        What do people think of FINN in 2000AD.
>        I really like it. It is the best series for a while.


I must admit l am one-eyed about old Dredd and usually don't bother to read
the others until have have nothing else to do, but the artwork is very cool,
and l would also say it is one of the best stories in a while.
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: XMEN: Forge is not an inventor
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:54:45 GMT

In article <Bs2wDp.2nB@cs.psu.edu> antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes:
>Thus Forge (who seems to be able to make things quicker than Reed) could
>start a business with Reed.  Forge builds things, then takes them to Reed.
>Reed gives it a quick look, decides that is seems a sound enough design, and
>thus the design is now correct.  Then they patent it.
>
>Okay, the real reasonfor this theory is to explain why Forge hasn't glutted
>the market with cheap consumer goods.

OK, why hasn't Reed done this all by himself? :-)
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: XMEN: Forge is not an inventor
Date: 31 Jul 1992 18:54:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <1992Jul31.183118.3756@midway.uchicago.edu> efj1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>	personal jet packs
>If you're thinking of Wonder Man, his are powered by his body's ionic energy.
>A normal person would have to carry around a jet engine to power them. 

	Except that originally, they were just ordinary rockets.  
John Byrne was the one who later added that his body started powering
them when he realized that there's no way he'd be able to pick up
something really heavy and then fly with it.  A valid point, but a
strange retcon.
	I figured Wonder Man was the only one who used them because his
skin could stand up to the heat of the rocket exhaust.  Normal folks
would have roasted legs if they wore it.
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Lynching, anyone?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:18:18 GMT

I'm working on a list of People At Marvel Who Should Definitely Be Taken Out 
And Shot.  So far, it seems DeFoolco is an obvious choice, for screwing up so 
many cool stories started by Simonson (Walt).  Of course, one might want to put
Walt on the list of People To Threaten With Shooting for his tendency to leave 
off those cool storylines and let hacks like DF play with them.  Al Milgrom 
should be shot unless he agrees to never EVER do anything other than editing 
and those self-caricatures ever again.  Many a good artist's work has been 
smothered to death beneath Milgrom's inks (Stroman was an exception), and 
Milgrom's penciling sux pretty bad too.  Whoever thought up the "Multiple 
Covers" idea should also be shot.
     I welcome suggestions and discussion, but remember, it requires truly 
heinous crimes against readership to merit being shot.  Worse than anything 
Byrne has ever done, for example (yes, that's pretty damn heinous).
     Dave Van Domelen, trying to decide between a gun and a rubber knife dipped
in Liquid Nitrogen for killing DeFoolco with
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Crisis Inconsistencies (WAS: Re: The Problem with the GL yellow weakness)
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:40:54 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good) writes:

>While I'm on the subject, I have to say that at least one good thing came
>out of the Crisis that (at least so far) has been permanent: scaling back
>Superman's powers.  Before the Crisis, the few Superman stories I read
>were pretty lame.  After all, when a character can do _anything_, it's 
>hard to come up with challenging situations for him.  I think something
>as major as the Crisis in order to do this without it being un-done a
>few months later.  Maybe the Crisis wasn't quite so bad after all...

Actually, the Post Crisis Superman is/was _no_ different from the Pre-C
one.

It was only after Byrne "rewrote" Superman was he depowered somewhat.
That's why many people refer to the Pre and Post-Byrne Superman.
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