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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:47:01 GMT
X-Posted-From: connection.prospect.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>
>What X11 server are you using on the PC?  We're looking getting into that - it
>would be ok for casual users who don't need a dedicated terminal.  I'd prefer a
>server that runs under Windows so that I could have multiple X sessions along
>side DOS and Windows apps.  Such an environment would make the PCs almost
>reasonable!   :-)
>

I was actually talking about the PC UNIX version of X11, not a DOS-based
X server.  For PC UNIX, there is a fantastic version of X11.5 on the
Internet, called X386 1.2E.  Excellent support for most SVGA cards, including
special ET4000 speedups.  SVR4 binaries are available.

>
>[scrollbars]
>I know - my question was: does OS/2 have them in shell windows, as an option
>at least?
>

Yes, it does.  Whenever you resize a shell so that not all of its rows or
columns are visible, scrollbars show up automatically.

>
>David Meiklejohn                  | Internet : davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au
>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Get a Life?
Date: 11 Aug 92 17:42:16 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug9.032240.29965@a.cs.okstate.edu> greaham@a.cs.okstate.edu (GREAHAM DARIN DONA) writes:
>Get a life people, the only people who deserve to have an amiga are those
>who use it what it was meant for, video production...

Oh really? And I suppose those of us who program it for fun or for
money don't deserve to have an Amiga. You video production gusy would
be SOL without programmers. Might as well try to animate with a 
rock. 
-- 
/* IanK@Microsoft.com		*/
/* I want my 32bit chip set	*/

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: No AA machines in September -- NOT!
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:24:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.105449.22906@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.055043.27280@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.050804.17019@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>>>This doesn't seem a very well kept secret! :-)  C= may as well announce
>>>the new machines now.
>>
>>Naah, three weeks isn't long to wait.  It'd spoil the big suprise if they
>>announced the machines now.  I just can't wait to find out what colour the
>>case is, and if the floppies really are mounted vertically...  
>
>My guesses :
>
>- They'll be white because the 3000 was white.
>- The floppies will be mounted vertically to kept size down

My A3000 is more of a beige color.  The A600 looks like it is more of
a true white and may be close to the color of the new machines.  If
the joystick ports are really on the left hand side of the machine
they'll need a longer mouse cable...

>>Oh, and the other little detail I don't know is how much they'll 
>>cost and in what configurations.
>
>I was going to try and guess the prices but it is too difficult as the
>overpriced 040 3000T has made estimations impossible.  Hopefully the 
>040 3000T really is just something stupid C= have done and not an
>indication of prices of the new machines.

The A3000T is priced in Quadra territory.  While it may offer an 040 now,
it sure as hell falls on its face in the graphics area.

>As an aside, do we know for CERTAIN that the 040 3000T still has the
>ECS chipset?  Does the C= ad mention anything in that regard?

No, but it is a stupid looking ad.  I'll scan it and convert it down to 
a format that the Amiga can handle if anyone wants.

>>David Meiklejohn                  | Internet : davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au
>
>-- 
>Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
>  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 

                           
  Skip Sauls
  skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu





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From: campbell@cbmvax.commodore.com (John Campbell - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: campbell@cbmvax.commodore.com (John Campbell - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Aug19.020919.21230@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
 (George Francis McBay) writes:

>I heard (rumors?) about the runtime player a long time ago.
>I also heard that you have to pay some incredibly high fee to Commodore
>in order to distribute it along with your programs..
>

1.  The fee was not "incredibly high", and a number of people paid the fee.
It was a contractual issue that was difficult for all parties.

2.  The new runtime will be freely redistributable.

This discussion probably should be in another newsgroup. Judging from most
of the other discussions here, I am not sure it make sense to spend much time
in this group. :-)

John Campbell
Director, Commodore Applications and Technical Support (CATS)
From: robert@geoblue.gcn.uoknor.edu (Robert Lindsay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Crime & Death Penalty Re: Perot ? (the thread that won't die)
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:29:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.1992Aug20.142918.29322
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK

[ McLaughlin group style rantings deleted ]

Ladies and Gentelmen, witness the thread that would die!
Thrill to the spectical of hip and trendy neoconservatives pointlessly 
bickering with hip and trendy neoliberals!!
Be amazed at the the fact you wish this was '486 vs. '040 flamefest!!!
Makes you long for a post from Jeff Young doesn't it?

LET IT JUST DIE!!

thank you.
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Some GOOD news? In Advocacy? Hard to believe, Vern.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 11:36:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Whoops! {blush blush} Ignore that last posting, folks. It was brought
to my attention that the Freeway Stores ad I described was not full
page height. The top third of that part of the page was an ad for
"Connecting Point" Computers with a couple stores in the SoCalif
area. Freeway Stores' ad was the bottom 2/3 of the same column.
The two ads have the same width black border around them and use
similar layout and typefaces which is what led to my thinking
Freeway was now selling Amigas. They aren't. And apparently
Connecting Point has been an Amiga dealer for a while now.

Sorry if my posting got anyone overly excited. We now return you
to your minimum daily adult requirement of arguments, rumors, and
flames :)
Harv
From: m91kgh@tdb.uu.se (Karl-Gunnar Hultland)
Subject: Re: Falcon030 is there ..
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:46:42 GMT

pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli) writes:
: In article <338@mbunix.adsp.sub.org> mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer) writes:
: >
: >... Amigas have a higer fun-factor than any ATARIs...
: >
:    And, from what I've seen, more woofing asshole users per computer sold
: than any other manufacturer.

Just wait and see what you'll find in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
group when (if?) it finally is created. :-)

Doesn't you feel that Atari-owners would really need an advocacy
group of their own, this group sure looks like a Atari Falcon group.



		Karl
-- 

Karl-Gunnar Hultland              Vox Dei, Vox Populi
m91kgh@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se
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From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:47:09 GMT
	<1992Aug16.041634.19769@uwm.edu> <1992Aug18.175505.18214@natinst.com>
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: glens@natinst.com's message of 18 Aug 92 17:55:05 GMT

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 17:55:05 GMT, glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) said:
Glen> Nntp-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com


Glen> 	You are totally wrong on this one Greg.  Video devices have VDI
Glen> drivers (I am making the assumption you know what a driver is) for GEM.

This is correct. Having a "Virtual Device Interface" in GEM is the one
(and only) thing that Atari got right in their OS that C= did not.  The
Amiga could really benefit from such a software interface seeing as how
the number of gfx boards available for it is about 10x that for the
Atari (probably due to the base models' complete lack of expandability.)
--
/**************************************************************************/
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Why don't you ever enter and CONTESTS, Marvin??
 Don't you know your own ZIPCODE?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: monty@sagpd1 ()
Subject: Re: A (sad) story about stocks, Norwegian banks and C=
Reply-To: monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine)
Organization: Scientific Atlanta, Government Products Div, San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:28:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.231020.1664@news.uit.no> borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest) writes:
>stocks, and he looked them up, told me that they were $9 3/8; approximately
>600,- NOK. Then he proceeded to ask if I really wanted to do this. Why, I
>P.S.


>I seem to remember somebody watching C= stocks closely. Couldn't you please
>start posting (weekly) about how C= is doing? Thanks.
>-- 


	Consider yourself lucky you did not buy at 9 3/8, Yesterdays close
    was 6 7/8, down 2 1/4. Seems C= losses were rather high for the last 
    quarter ( something like $0.66 per share ).

	I wish I had $700 dollars to buy another block though, I don't think it 
    will stay this low for long if (hopefully) C= announces the new line soon.


    Monty Saine

    Just my opinion of course....
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From: colas@bagheera.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon 030 specs released! No more rumor...
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:05:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

In article <1992Aug17.090237.24295@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, seimet@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Uwe
Seimet) writes:
|> >I've heard that the new Amiga (A800) should be released next spring.
|> That't to late for Commodore. Next spring everybody interested in a Falcon
|> or A800 like machine will have bought the Falcon, won't he? :-)

This is ONLY false rumors.
New Amigas will be announced when they are available.
Although the new amiga machines & OS are already been in the hands of
developers for many months, they will only be announced when ready to be
bought,
unlike the Atari policy for the falcon.

-- 
Colas Nahaboo, colas@sa.inria.fr, Bull Research Koala proj. Wool&Gwm Architect
Pho:(33) 93.65.77.70(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.93 - 06902 Sophia Antipolis, FRANCE.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: ahansfor@coal.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Subject: Re: JAM info on A570 & A2200/A2400 (public info!)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Aug10.072523.5531@cheshire.oxy.edu>
	<8137@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>
	<ALANB.92Aug12152530@chipmunk.sdl.mdcbbs.com>
	<34400@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:51:52 GMT

>>>>> On 17 Aug 92 19:04:00 GMT, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) said:

daveh> Any VM-capable Amiga would use an '030 or '040.

daveh>  An '020 would make sense in a faster A500/A600 class machine.
daveh> A real (eg, full 32-bit) '020 system would be faster than the
daveh> silly 16-bit '030 Mac or '386SX systems at most things.

But why not an EC030 so as to keep the Amiga's busses as similar as
possible.  Granted there should not be too many differences.  I guess
a good reason would be that if the 020 is already designed.

Still, an 020 and a 32 bit bus would be a welcome speed up. (How about
a coprocessor socket since the 020 has the interface built in.  Well
At least I hope there is room and an access for a daughter board.)  

-- Andrew Hansford
   ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:48:18 GMT

In article <l8j32qINNqqd@pollux.usc.edu> addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
>In <1992Aug12.193043.14072@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>>Here we go again.  DIG.  Resource tracking.  A graphics system that supports
>>splines, paths, non-rectangular clipping, 2-D transformations, Adobe scalable
>>fonts, etc.
>
>This sounds like PostScript.

The Adobe fonts are PostScript fonts, I believe, but I don't think the
DIG/graphics system is using Display PostScript.

>>Want more?
>
>Yeah.  How about a standard script language that developers could rely on
>being on all machines with OS/2?  The existing command line interface seems
>to be mostly a rehash of MS-DOS's.

REXX comes standard with OS/2.  I even remember hearing that one of
the sources of disagreement that led to the IBM/Microsoft split on
OS/2 was that MS wanted to use MS-BASIC (yech) as the standard
scripting language, while IBM wanted REXX.


-- 
Niven's Law #14:   There exist minds that think as well as you do, but
                   differently.
Niven's Corollary: The gene-tampered turkey you're talking to isn't
                   necessarily one of them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:16:11 GMT
 om><1992Aug19.085215.1845@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu><34505@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com's message of 19 Aug 92 23:00:42 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Aug 92 23:00:42 GMT, andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) said:

> Yes, it was me.  I was mostly chatting with Neil, though. But I was hoping 
> Sam would give the price.  (he didn't)  I had one (slightly mean)
> question to ask, but unfortunately there wasn't time.  

> As to what I think:  If the price is right and there's enough
> software, I believe a 16Mhz 68030 machine with
> a fixed point DSP chip _can_ compete successfully with an A600.

A review in ST Format gives UK price as #400, which compares with
A600 list #400, but currently #300 everywhere.
(500+ is typically #350, where still sold).
--
Alan Braggins, Shape Data (A Division of EDS Ltd), Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Marc Barrett is dead
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:20:55 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <9520@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
> 
> Now it's evident and all facts point me to the conclusion:
> Marc Barrett is dead!

Only brain dead, I'm afraid...  ;-)


> Peter Kittel

-- 
     Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic

        (uunet|pyramid|rutgers)!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet
             cbmehq!cbmden!kehlet!kehlet@cbmvax.commodore.com

      As long as I speak for myself, my employees can do that, too...
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: The morality of killing a thread Re: Crime & Death Penalty Re: Perot ? (the thread that won't die)
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:46:31 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <mykes.0d0x@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.202746.8697@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug21.194648.13142@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>> >dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek) writes:
>> >: 	NO NO NO!!! We cannot kill an innocent post just
>> >: becuase it offends someone! Just think of the poor posts
>> >: offsprings, its parent. How would they feel? It's moraly
>> >: wrong to let a post die, it has every right to life.
>> >
>> >If he wanted it dead, he should have had an abortion while still
>> >editing.  Perfectly moral, perfectly legal.  After all, a post isn't a
>> >post until you save the text and hit "p".
>>
>> Or :wq, s , depending on the case.
>>
>
>EWWWWWW

My! What a dastardly insensitive thing to say!  Just when you thought it was
safe for an underpriviledged editor like VI toshow its face in the world...
boo hoo. 

I know what we need, we need Editor Quotas.  Verily!  I shall propse that
1/2 of all posts made to c.s.a.a. be forcefully made with VI.  Just
because the account I post from disallows anything but VI, and VI does not
have the letters E,M,A,C, and S in it doesn't mean it doesn't have FEELINGS! 

>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)

-- 
das9674@usl.edu
" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
From: skip@cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: JAM info on A570 & A2200/A2400 (public info!)
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:14:22 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Aug10.214127.16236@cheshire.oxy.edu> leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
>Come on... yo, lets all do a survey here.
>
>If you were to be offered an '020 Amiga for $430, with no FPU, or an
>'030 Amiga for $500 with FPU, both running at the same clockspeed,
>which would you buy?

If the 020 Amiga has the AA chipset and the 030 Amiga has the same old
bullshit that my A3000 does, I'd take the 020 Amiga any day.  :-)

The problem is that C= will probably put the AA chipset is an 040 machine,
sell it for $5998, and then call it a good deal because it comes with the
A1960 monitor.

Skip Sauls                
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:02:35 EDT
From: Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
 <1992Aug20.035014.22539@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> <mykes.0cxk@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>
 <1992Aug20.225413.17858@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <mykes.0d0r@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>

Mike, I hope you take this in a friendly way, but...

In article <mykes.0d0r@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>, mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike
Schwartz) says:
()

It seems like you want the Amiga to become yet another PC clone.
Do you really think that Yet Another 386 Clone, manufactured by Commodore
(not the best marketers in the world, if that's a surprise to anyone), and
with all the baggage on the side required to kludge the Amiga system onto
that 386, is going to come out with an MSRP cheaper than an ordinary 386 clone?

Will it be worth crashing nine-tenths of the Amiga software in existence?
(You thought switching from Kickstart 1.3 to Kickstart 2.0 was bad... on
second thought, nine-tenths is an understatement!)

Will it be worth alienating the thousands of Amiga developers worldwide, whose
specialized knowledge of the 680x0 is now useless? Watch Amiga development
drop to zero instantly.

Is it going to be any better than agonizingly slow? Remember: the Amiga 3000,
a damn fast machine, can barely emulate an 8088 running MS/DOS in software.
And you think a cheapo 386 is going to emulate even a 68000, plus the full
suite of custom chips, at a rate faster than molasses sliding down a board?

Is this strange project even possible to accomplish in the short time frame
before 386es are passe and something entirely new takes their place?

Is anyone going to even *use* the Amiga mode of this bizarre machine? If
it becomes Yet Another PC Clone, it will sink into mediocrity with the
rest of them.

Mike, your plan destroys everything that makes the Amiga what it is. I don't
disagree with your premise at all -- major innovation, in the form of better
graphics, faster machines and newer system software is certainly required
to save the Amiga from terminal obscurity or worse. But turning it into
a mutated PC clone is a giant leap backwards into a minefield.

You're a smart guy, I'd expected better than that.

[Your blood pressure just went up.]       Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
       DISCLAIMER: If it ain't money, Penn State doesn't care about it.
   "Ladies and gentlemen, I've suffered for my music! Now it's your turn!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: CBM, This is not STUPID this is a PROPOSITION
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:16:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug11.141929.22041@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>	How much would Microsoft charge for such a license?  Could any Amiga
>   software company afford it?  I can't amagine that Microsoft is going to
>   give it away.

A while ago (greater than a year) there was a rumor in the mill
here at MS that we had contracted out to a bunch of Euro
developers to do Works for the Amiga. I confirmed this with
an E-Mail to BillG. Then we heard that the deal had fallen through,
no details. The European folks had wanted USD 200,000 for the port,
according to the rumor mill.

I heartily believe that if a reputable Amiga development team like
Gold Disk or GVP contacted Microsoft they could work out an equitable
agreement to port the MS application of their choice as long as there
was little or no risk to Microsoft. A port of one of our larger
applications like Word or Excel would be a monumental task. There
are many feature these applications use that are part of Windows, but
not available on the Amiga. I'm sure good Amiga developers could beat these
problems with a little effort though. For instance, instead of using
Embeded Basic in MS Word, the Amiga version of word would have an integrated
ARexx interpreter/editer and a slew of ARexx functions. The ability
to import/export WordBasic would be included. OLE/DDE could be
replaced with an extended HotLinks. IT COULD BE DONE! This kind of
effort would take a lot of cash and personel. Only the larger Amiga
development houses could hope to pull it off. Things the MS developers
had done for them would have to be coded for the Amiga, like a help
engine. Wouldn't it be cool to have a common help engine on the Amiga?
Press the help key ANYWHERE and get a response(even a "cannot find helpfile"
would e better than nothing!).

Ah... to dream. To ship every new AA-Amiga with MS-Word on the
hard disk...

Ian.
-- 
/* IanK@Microsoft.com		*/
/* I want my 32bit chip set	*/

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