From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Fraud and Libel on UseNet
Summary: WAS Re: Where is your non-existent list of scholars, "Joe Buck"? 
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:35:03 GMT

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  Please excuse this posting in news.admin.policy. This posting is to draw
  attention of the use of UseNet for propaganda and accusing authors of saying
  things they never did. In my dictionary such is known as libel! 
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In the continued case of Free Speech versus Intellectual Fraud via article 
<9212231951@ zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) responded to article
<1h8l38INN7f0@agate.berkeley.edu> dev.null (Joe Buck) writes:

[JB] I am curious what "Serdar Argic", the AI daemon dedicated to defending
[JB] the honor of the Turks against those evil Armenians, will do with this
[JB] article.

We are given a list of historians, or whatever, and are quoted on UseNet
as claiming, or having supported the following claim:

[claim] For whatever reason, you do not seem to understand that you would be
[claim] better off leaving certain topics alone, if you don't want things to
[claim] blow up in your face. Besides, leave the criminal members of the
[claim] ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle alone. They have been trashed
[claim] long time ago. As for the Turkish genocide, during the First World War 
[claim] and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, the Armenian Dictatorship through a 
[claim] premeditated and systematic genocide, tried to complete its centuries-
[claim] old policy of annihilation against the Turks and Kurds by savagely 
[claim] murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting the rest from their 1,000 
[claim] year homeland.

The list of those who support such a revision of history, AND who have been
falsely quoted from, include: 

[claim] The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance
[claim] of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people.
[claim] This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government
[claim] and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark 
[claim] Bristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford 
[claim] Shaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, 
[claim] Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General 
[claim] Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, 
[claim] Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis
[claim] Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa,
[claim] Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel 
[claim] Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many 
[claim] others.

[claim] J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of
[claim] the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.

[claim] Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,
[claim] Princeton University.
[claim] ... more "claims" deleted

Let's just take on on this list, and read what he has to say on this subject:

"...the terrible holocaust of 1915, when a million and a half Armenians
 perished..." 

DIRECTLY FROM _The Emergence of Modern Turkey_, Bernard Lewis, 1961, page 350

And in a 1970 Turkish translation of the exact same line by the Turkish 
Historical Society, we read essentially the same as the above English:

"-bir bucuk milyon Ermenininin yokoldugu korkunc 1915 felaketiyle sonuclanan."

DIRECTLY FROM _Modern Turkiyenin Dogusu_ Bernard Lewis (Ingilizceden ceviren 
Dr. Metin Kiratli), Turk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi, Ankara, 1970, page 354.

Bernard Lewis NEVER said anything about Armenians killed millions of anything!

Most all of the entries on the above list have either been quoted out of 
context, strip-quoted, or have not written anything on the above mentioned
revision of history, as have been exposed several times via this medium.

It is unfortunate that UseNet has been used as a forum by fanatics, to uphold
perverted version of history AND used to totally misquote authors and writers
as we have seen above.

It should also be noted that the Mutlu-Argic character has even been thrown out
of his home newsgroup, soc.culture.turkish, which may explain the desperate
attempts at expanding the Mutlu-Argic never-ending list of x-posts. In
addition, at least twice on UseNet, we have seen:

1) A series of posting in the name of Mutlu-Argic being written on UseNet, and
   within days seeing the same topics/subject in a series on Radio Turkey, the
   Turkish government's external short-wave radio service.

2) Last year, while the Turkish Ambassador to the Soviet Union was in Soviet
   Armenia, the Turkish government ordered all anti-Armenian propaganda be
   suspended. At that time all postings under the name Mutlu also stopped
   during that period.

I protest the use of UseNet as a sounding off box for the Turkish government
and further its use to totally misrepresent authors and historians in an
attempt to re-write the histories of Armenians, Greeks, and anybody that may
have historical grievances against Turkey.

 
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S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies |  don't want Kurdistan to be an Armenia." 
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Cambridge, MA 02238                  |   April 24, 1991