HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: msm@mse.cmu.edu (Mark S McWhinney)
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless.jokes,alt.flame
Subject: Re: j: Another acronym and followup to: Re: Joke for you 10 percenters
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:46:41 GMT
Organization: CMU/SEI Master of Software Engineering Program


Lighten up.


From Monthy Python's Life of Brian:

Brian   Are you the Judean People's Front?
Reg     Fuck off.
Brian   What?
Reg     Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea. Judean 
        People's front, caw.
Francis Wankers.
Brian   Can I join your group?
Reg     No. Piss off.
Brian   I didn't want to sell this stuff. It's only a job. I hate the Romans 
        as much as anybody.
PFJ     Sssh. Ssssh, sssh, sssh, ssssh
Judith  Are you sure?
Brian   Oh. Dead sure... I hate the Romans already.
Reg     Listen. If you really wanted to join the PFJ, you'd have to really 
        hate the Romans.
Brian   I do.
Reg     Oh yeah? How much?
Brian   A lot!
Reg     Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the 
        Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.
PFJ     Yeah
Judith  Splitters.
Francis And the Judean Popular Peoples Front.
PFJ     Oh yeah. Splitters.
Loretta And the peoples Front of Judea.
PFJ     Splitters.
Reg     What?
Loretta The Peoples front of Judea. Splitters.
Reg     We're the Peoples front of Judea.
Loretta Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
Reg     Peoples Front.
Francis Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
Reg     He's over there.
--------[A single old man sits on a lower seat.]
PFJ     [To the old man.]  SPLITTER!
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: alt.queen-mum.buttfuck alt.limey.pindick
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:13:14 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec11.013948.13987@tdb.uu.se> t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
>From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
>Subject: Re: alt.queen-mum.buttfuck alt.limey.pindick
>Date: 11 Dec 92 01:39:48 GMT

>Kevin Walsh (kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk) wrote:

><100 quoted lines + feeble farts deleted>

>: the dirt again by following up to a 50 year old post that
>: everyone's forgotten about.
>: 
>: What's more, it's a Swede.
>: 

>Ouch! Real heavy flak here! Then, again, who'd know more about feeble farts
>than mr. Walsh. What's the matter? Still shocked by the Charles/Di divorce?
>Well, well, even old posts doesn't stop him. I really pity myself for being
>born in Sweden when I get ruthlessly attacked like this. Please stop it, Kevin!

>/Par

Just so you dickheads really get it this time, I'm not a Swede.  Don't
you guys ever read sigs?

BTW, Kevin, you suck ;-)
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                    !!! H A P P Y   H O L I D A Y S !!!

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    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                    "Don't let the .se fool you"
    exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org  <SLOW!>
From: king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:56:55 GMT
Organization: DCIEM, Toronto, Canada

In article <1992Dec10.150352.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>One thing that the aliens of the Net try to claim is that they too put up a vst
>amount of effort in the worlds problems today. 

We have 10% the population of the USA, so if we send 11% as many troops
anywhere, then we are making a larger contribution (on a per capita basis)
than the US. I'm not saying that we are doing this in Somalia, just that
you should put things into the proper perspective before opening your
great festering gob, vsg001. 
 
Aliens of the net? Where did you get this tripe? The net is worldwide, so
there are no aliens (unless you believe in extraterrestrial visits, which
wouldn't surprise me in the least).

>This is as trivial as the existence of the French. 

Really? Your ignorance astounds me! (again and again and again)
You wouldn't happen to be Turd KKKaldis, now would you?

-- 
                       Se non e` vero, e` ben trovato 
     ...{utzoo|mnetor}!dciem!dretor!king        king@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Oldest university, the real answer
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:22:45 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <1992Dec12.004946.19450@tdb.uu.se>, t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
> Michele Dall'Agata (dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov) wrote:
> :
> : the people try to remember the times when we really was the best)
> 
> "Try" being the main word. Not much luck, I suppose...

Wrong! When we are not upset about the current Italian situation, or we are 
not having fun, we like to remember the splendour of our past. It happens 
ones or twice per day.
You barbarians, can't do the same. 
> 
> /Par
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: For little ghost
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:05:07 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <Bz7x8K.4x6@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@orchid.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>
>>Do you wanna really know?!? Nope, it does not mean anything to me. Fucking 
>>shit, now I've to read the dictionary....
>>Are you speaking about "windows" ?!? Triple fuckyourself man! I do not 
>>wanna think too much on your language, I am lazy. BHAHAHAHA.
>>Anyway, YES! You have to be coherent. French are better than british (and 
>>worse than Italians, for sure, we are the best...). So they can't be the 
>>lowest scum of europe!
> 
> This post from someone who is employed by the Fermi Lab?? What an
> unimpressive representative. 

The first time that I came here at Fermilab, I did not speak any word of 
english. I learned the English *here*, with the physicists. You see, my 
english is a good representative of the english that you can listen here.
That's not my fault, you scientists are crazy...

> Such language would have people believe
> a stereotype of you being in a janitorial position at Fermi, who often
> breaks into their computer system. Could this be true? 

Ken, you are down. You need more relax, your flame is about the same of 
Kevin-walsh-moron. Your "vacation" on the mental-clinic has not been so 
long. You need to go back over there. Belive me. I do care. You where 
somebody here, but now...

> How could Fermi
> Lab allow such childish behavior?? Would a true representative
> of Fermi Lab speak up?? K e n is expecting a response.
> 

What's wrong with childish behaviour? Kids are fun, are innocents, they do 
not lie, they speak on first person. You know, roby, it seems to me that 
you are bad, you do not like kids. Such a disguting man. Did you have a bad
childhood? The other kids did not like you because you were too much 
selfish?? Explain me, poor little boy. I can help you. 

> K e n  R o b i n s o n

	Michele
From: rjr004@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: in American defense...
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:45:16 GMT
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA

In article <katherim.724368770@sfu.ca>, katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:
> A comedien in Montreal (e with a / accent that my computer does not do) once
> said that when Americans are learning French they should be taught useful
> phrases.  Instead of where is the bus-stop, or where is the hotel, they 
> should learn to say, "Don't shoot me, I'm Canadian."



In Quebec?  Interesting, I heard just the opposite...

---The Doctor
>
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Dac wears his heart on his sleeve. Sniff.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:49:40 GMT
 <1992Dec14.220844.7472@crd.ge.com>
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec14.220844.7472@crd.ge.com>, James G Keegan Jr writes:

> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
> |>rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama) writes:
> |>>Yeah, kind of like when you went around asking Oleg to prove that
> |>>he didn't forge a sendsys from dac.
> |>
> |>Never done that. I do recall, however, at one point asking Oleg to disprove 
> |>that DAC had good cause to _believe_ that he had been sendsys'ed by
> Oleg. There
> |>was some pretty good circumstantial evidence, actually.
> 
> heh.

This is old stuff, and embarrassing. It was I who -wrongly-
accused Oleg of the sendsys episode. Trish should be aware that I
did apologise and withdraw my accusation. Oleg can confirm this
with Trish, or vice versa.

James, you're ever so wicked for laughing at such a painful part
of my net.career.

Trish, you're such a bonehead to accuse Kevin of this crime.

Kevin, you're such a voluminous twat. Can't you stop rising to
the baiters?

Dac, shut-up.

[oh, okay, if that's how you're going to be! Sheesh]

Dac [and .Dac]
--
dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: A POLL: On polling.
Date: 10 Dec 92 20:38:45 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
>"OK. Let's take a poll."  He says.  Good lord, why is it that the
>fucking yanks have to "take a poll" every five posts or so.  Is
>it written into their constitution so every flag-waving geek HAS to
>follow it or answer to the President.  I don't know.  
>
>Go on then geek.  Take your poll.

OK.  Who thinks we're having too many polls?  Let's take a poll on it.

Preliminary polling results for the stupidest brit:

  J.ust S.tupid Graley wins for stupidest brit with 80% of the precincts
    reporting.

  Kevin "Wailing" Walsh, however, wins the "Most obnoxious by virtue of 
  sheer quantity of posts" category as well as an impressive showing in 
  the "Clueless Lame Newbie" category!

  Atta boy, Kevin!

You can expect your prize, the coveted bronze "Public Enema No. 1" statuette
to be arriving via post soon.

Cheerios and Sugar Pops!

-- Andy
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: in American defense...
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:10:32 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

Katherine Merle Mason (katherim@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
: A comedien in Montreal (e with a / accent that my computer does not do) once
: said that when Americans are learning French they should be taught useful
: phrases.  Instead of where is the bus-stop, or where is the hotel, they 
: should learn to say, "Don't shoot me, I'm Canadian."
: 
Hey Katherine, what about to learn: "Je t'allume."?

	Michele
From: sperdomo@samson.hac.com (Sanin Perdomo)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Americans are Screwy
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:23:14 GMT
Reply-To: sperdomo@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO


  
> 
> 
 
> ET YOU DIE; NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE A FAG, BUT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF A MILITARY.

Should read; I'D LET YOU DIE

-COSMIC



Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: JORN--Captin Caveman of alt.flame (was Re:PHANTOM BLOWS IT)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:29:27 GMT

Phantom-baby writes ...
>
>As you repeatedly post EVERYDAY!! "Maggot, maggot, clueless, stupid, stupid,
>clueless, maggot" You're just like Kevin!

Wrong, all PHANTOM THE CLUELESS MAGGOT postings were posted in ONE
DAY because you *try* to flame people without reasonable background
and facts behind you. Think before you vomit.

From now on you're PHANTOM-BABY WHOSE MOTHER IS GOING TO BEAT UP JORN
BEACUSE HE MAKES FUN OF HER LITTLE SON.

>> Did blondes genetically *originate* from Norway ? That's so stupid
>> that I really don't believe my eyes !!! The first blonde on earth was
>> certainly *not* from Norway. Where *do* you get your facts ?
>
>JORN HURT EYES WHEN JORN TRY TO THINK!! JORN NO LIKEUM THINKING! JORN TAKE
>STUPID MAGGOT CLUELESS COMPUTER AND BASH WITH JORN BIG STICK!!

See ? what about replying instead of throwing the ball back to me ?
This happens over and over again. I guess you're out of arguments.

>> YOU'RE A FUCKING JOKE, PHANTOM THE CLUELESS!
>
>No. Phantom...just Phantom. Try a little variety in your adjectives.

OH! Impressive ! Phantom, o'wizard of words. Can't say you show
much variety in your 'JORN NO LIKEUM' bullshit either.

_________________________________________________________________________
| Jorn Halonen              | "dinga ding dang my danga long ling long" |
| jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no  |                               - Ministry  |

Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Gun toting american fools
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.143946.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:

> WHAT?!?!? Hey, hey, hey. I just tried to say to little-ghost to be coherent.

WHAT???? You told ME to be coherent? Does the phrase "blind leading the blind"
mean anything to you? 

--The Phantom
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Kevin's fan mail
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:31:30 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec12.165320.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>Two general flaws in your logic:
>
>[1] You just spent two flames attacking Kevin for his believing that he "won"
>if no one would respond right away. 

Show me were I said "right away".  You can't, because I didn't say that. 
I implied no time limit, only that Walsh has the mistaken notion that if
people ignore his lame posts it is AN indication that he has "won".


>Why then do you insist on a time limit for someone to reply to you? 
>Could it be that when people see you name, they don't make it a priority 
>to read what you have to say?

I don't insist on a time limit.  I could care less whether anyone responds
or not.  You seemed to have made it one or your priorities, however.

>[2] You have attacked this person for maintaining records of you. Yet it seems
>that you have an elaborate time clock on everyone on the net. With which you
>promptly remind them of the difference from your time of posting, to their time
>of responce. 

Wrong.  I maintain no such records.  You attribute more importance to alt.flame
activities than they deserve.  Reassure yourself that I spend no sleepless
nights worrying about alt.flame.  And it's spelled "response". 


-- Andy
From: leonardo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul Scott Bartelt)
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless.jokes,alt.flame
Subject: Re: j: Another acronym and followup to: Re: Joke for you 10 percente
Date: 18 Dec 1992 06:32:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

Somebody please break Micheles' knuckles so that he is unable to type
for a looooong! time.

                                     \ 	 	....Going to extremes...
                                     / 
                                     \        Paul Scott Bartelt
                                     |    
                     _______         \ 		 aka leonardo....  
          *---------(  _)(__(()      /  	....@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
   ________________ / _\_____________\____________  
   )_KVC_comp_8.3__(  /   \___________K2K2K2K2K2__>
 __________________( (  *  )_________/__________
 )_KVC_comp_8.3____(  \___/_________K2K2K2K2K2__>
                    \   /___         \
            *-------(__)(__(()       /     	 ....No falls....
                                     |    	....No balls...
                                     /
                                    /
-- 
                                     \ 	 	....Going to extremes...
                                     / 
                                     \        Paul Scott Bartelt
                                     |    
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: K e n Doesn't Require New Tactics
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:52:13 GMT

In article <Bz3L5r.KK0@cs.psu.edu> Kenneth J Robinson repeats ...
>
>In fact, those three adjectives describe you very well, Mr. Dobson.
>But again, you are misinformed, for K e n is K e n.
>
>>you shit suking robot picece of shit mutherfucker
>
>Such pathetic language skills. One typically thinks of an
>immature brat, when seeing such utter waste. K e n suggests
>you query your mother about washing procedures for your 
>largest facial orifice.

J O R N  t h i n k s  y o u ' r e  a n  i d i o t  .  .  .

What the fuck is this stupid 'K e n' shit anyway ? As much as I
hate it I agree with Dobson regarding your repetitiveness, you
can't blow out a flame with 'Because K e n is K e n' ! If you've
run out of arguments, stop posting remarks like 'K e n thinks
you're an idiot'. I mean, it's as impressive as seeing a car on
the freeway.

Ken is Ken my ass, go lick your mothers out-fucked cunt and
FUCK YOUR SPACE KEY.

_________________________________________________________________________
| Jorn Halonen              | "dinga ding dang my danga long ling long" |
| jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no  |                               - Ministry  |

Newsgroups: alt.tasteless.jokes,alt.flame
From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
Subject: Re: j: Another acronym and followup to: Re: Joke for you 10 percente
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:15:15 GMT

Stig-Lennart Soerensen (stigs@stud.cs.uit.no) wrote:
: 
: Now have anyone some whale or baby seal jokes?
: 

No, but we do have the Norwegian national hockey team.

/Par
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:19:27 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <dcm2kan@rpi.edu> keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.) writes:
>andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
>->A better solution: 
>
>andy, you've never had a better solution to anything.
>that's one reason you're such a laughingstock.
>

Aghast!  I, the laughing stock of alt.flame!  Woe is me!  
How will I live with the shame, the shame of it all!
Really?  Do you guys, like, send messages about me behind my back?
God.  I never even suspected.  I feel so... so...  *embarrassed*.

No one will ever call you a "laughing stock", Jimmy Junior.  You're 
about as funny and welcome as a pubic hair floating in chicken soup.  
I'll bet you're a smashing bore at parties too.  You probably show up
in turtle-neck sweaters and detain people at the punch bowl with 
lengthy, earnest monologues until they feign a bladder problem to 
get away from you.


Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go take a leak.

-- Andy 
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: The Phantom's wish to you all
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:20:52 GMT






						It is now time for me to take


my bows, and say good bye to you all,
for the time being. I understand the 
trauma that this farewell will cause
you all, but fear not, I shall return.
						

						I want to wish you all, even
						Kevin, a Merry Christmas, Happy
						Holidays, and a safe New Year

For the Americans. The Foreigners, well,
America is just going to ignore you for a
while. Keep in mind though, you always have
my e-mail, to just say hi with. 


Good Bye All!

--The Phantom
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: net.snobs
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:14:28 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <1gvh30INNm0q@uwm.edu>, leonardo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul Scott Bartelt) writes:
> 
> Yegads!!!.....
> 
> 	
> 	Michele is angry...
> 

You betcha! I am *angry*, RIGHT! I am FUCKING ANGRY. There are more "Merry 
Christmas" messages than FLAMES! What the fucking fuck is that?!? Flaming 
people that *POST* a Merry Christmas?!?!? ARE THEY FLAMING?!?!? Tell to 
this moron to stay FAR FROM HERE! At least up to when the "holidays" are 
over. SHIT! Damned Christmas! Every year the same story. Bleah! The unny 
thing is that they go home, and their mothers ask to them: "Have you been a
good boy/girl?" And they answer "Yes, mom!". And that's true, they did... 

> 
> 
> 		Piss off whiner!....
>
Who is the "whiner"?!? I hope that you are not talking about me... I can 
piss and moan, but I do not whine. 

	Michele
>
> 
>                                      \ 	 	....Going to extremes...
>                                      / 
>                                      \        Paul Scott Bartelt
>                                      |    
>                      _______         \ 		 aka leonardo....  
>           *---------(  _)(__(()      /  	....@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
>    ________________ / _\_____________\____________  
>    )_KVC_comp_8.3__(  /   \___________K2K2K2K2K2__>
>  __________________( (  *  )_________/__________
>  )_KVC_comp_8.3____(  \___/_________K2K2K2K2K2__>
>                     \   /___         \
>             *-------(__)(__(()       /     	 ....No falls....
>                                      |    	....No balls...
>                                      /
>                                     /
-- 

===========================================================================
I wish to everybody a real BAD Christmas. I hope that your fathers will die
doing the role of Santa Claus that come down from the chimney. I wish that
your planes blow out while you are going back home to meet your families.
Have a Christmas Drink and Drive accident, get as many DUI as you can.
And, Last but not Least, FUCK YOURSELF, again.
===========================================================================

Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: mbrownel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Mark Brownell)
Subject: RE: What is this thing called K E N ?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:59:23 GMT
From: liz@realsoon.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Date: 12 Dec 1992 07:40:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: realsoon.wpi.edu

In article <katherim.724125554@sfu.ca> katherim@fraser.sfu.ca 
(Katherine Merle Mason) writes:
>liz@parrot.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:
>
>>I believe that the might of the American army is a good thing when it
>>is used in a *humanitarian* effort to help feed starving people.
>
>Tell that to the Americans who are starving, homeless in New York & Detroit.
>Tell it to the child that gets shut in a dirty apartment alone all day
>because his/her parents can't afford day-care.  Tell it to the child who
>got cancer from industrial pollution and can't even afford pain-killers.
>See what they have to say to that.

Oh gee...maybe we should nationalize things like health care, hmm?  We
all know how successful that is in the great country of Canada, now
don't we?  (If you doubt this, then we'll have to mention the fact
that Canadians come to the US so they don't have to wait YEARS to get
some kinds of surgery done.)

I'm not going to deny that there aren't starving people in *lots* of
countries, while grain rots in silos in the Midwest of the USA, among
other places.  But that does not mean that the American army is *only*
good for blowing people to hell.  To think so is simply ignorant.

						--Liz

--
bite me, fan boy
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