From: pwork@afit.af.mil (Paul R. Work)
Subject: Re: Game auction (Dave's games)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:17:07 GMT


Howdy Y'all,

    This is just an update.  Only one thing to report.  The AH version
of Conquistador has been withdrawn from the auction.  The magazine and
accompanying game are still available.

    Previously, the third copy of "The China War" had no condition listed.
With all other magazine games, this meant that the counters have been
punched.  I checked carefully, and the condition of this game was in
error.  All three copies of "The China War"  are unpunched.  I have
taken the highest non-winning bid from the other two copies and placed
them on the third copy.  Any future bids for one of these issues of "The
China War" plus game will be placed against the copy that has the lowest
winning bid.  Similarly, any bid for "Napoleon at Waterloo" (new) will
be placed against the copy with the lower winning bid.

    I have also found time to place some bids of my own on some of these
games.  They're just ordinary bids, nothing special about them.  

    I have had difficulty reaching several people who have responded.
When I try and e-mail reponses, my mailer cannot resolve the addresses
given.  When reponding for the first time (or if you haven't heard from
me since your initial response), please include a valid Internet address
(an absolute IP address - numbers would also be great).  

>    In order to be fair to the majority of those bidding on the games
>listed in the group offers, I have decided to add the following
>restriction:  Beginning immediately, no further increases may be made to
>a group bid.  If the sum of the individual bids ever exceeds the group
>bid (after Wednesday), the group will be dissolved, and all games that
>were listed in that group must be competed for on an individual basis.

>    No new group bids can be accepted at this point.

>    I would like to stress that there will be no advantage to waiting
>till the last minute to make bids.  Any and all previous bidders on a
>game will be allowed to respond to any last minute bid.  The only thing
>last minute bidding will accomplish is to drag things out, causing them
>to finish later than otherwise.

>    Payment may be made in US dollars by money order or cashiers check.

>>    It has been pointed out that several of the Conflict magazines
>>originally came with two games each.  With one exception, these games
>>have been combined with the appropriate magazine.  

>>    I expect mailing costs to be $3 per boxed game, $2 per magazine
>>(with or without game), $2 per bagged game in a mailing box (9x12), and
>>$1.50 per bagged game.  If you want counter trays, they can be added for
>>$2.25 ea, and mailing boxes (again, 9x12 with a lid) are $0.75 ea.

>>>    Beginning with the next update, I will only list the top two bids
>>>for a particular game/mag/group.  I will keep a record of all offers,
>>>but only post the top two.

>>>    I cannot guarantee that all the counters are in those games that
>>>have at least some of the counters punched.  I can say that the games
>>>look as though they have been well cared for.  Virtually all games have
>>>several blank counters in case something should turn up missing.  At
>>>some future point, I can check some of the bagged games for counter
>>>numbers, since most rules list how many counters should be present.  One
>>>game (I can't remember which) has 1 blank counter that has been used
>>>(written on) apparently to replace a missing counter.

>>>>New bids are welcome until the 20th of November at which time the
>>>>auction will close to new bids.  

>>>>    Existing bids may be continue to be updated until all but one person
>>>>has dropped out.  If there is no update on a game for 72 hours (after
>>>>the closing to new bids), that game will be closed out and considered
>>>>closed to the high bidder.

>>>>    Please keep all bids to whole dollar bids only.  If I receive any
>>>>bid with a fractional amount, the fractional amount will be truncated,
>>>>and the bid will be treated as the whole dollar bid only.  

>>>>    There are also some new games that Dave had not included in his
>>>>original list.  Be sure to look for them!  Thanks very much,

>>>>    When I list the condition of a game, I am using the following
>>>>conventions:
 
>>>>    mint:              mint
>>>>    exc:               excellent
>>>>    cond:              condition
>>>>    mostly punched:    much more than 50% of the counters have been
>>>>       (mp)               punched, a fair number remain unpunched
>>>>    partly punched:    Approximately 50% of the counters have been
>>>>       (pp)               punched
>>>>    mostly unpunched:  Much less than 50% of the counters have been
>>>>       (mup)           punched
>>>>    (c)                prev. bid has been conf. (after Nov 5 1:00 PM EST)
>>>>    (n)                new bid since Nov 5 1:00 PM EST

>>>>Have fun!

    -Paul

Bookcase sized boxed games:                  previous offers

    Command Series Games (Rand)    (set) $ 90 larryn@col.hp.com  
       Vol 1   vg cond (punched)           85 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
           (box has a few creases)         
         Gettysburg (Lee vs Meade)         
         Saratoga: 1777 (Burg. vs Gates    
         Invasion:  Sic. (Alex. vs Kess.)
         Napoleon's Last Campaign
         Cambrai, 1917 The First Blitzkrieg
         Missile Boat
         Omaha Beach
         War of the World II
         Rommel: The War for North Africa
       Vol 2   vg cond (punched)           
         Hitler's Last Gamble (The Battle of the Bulge)
         Brandy Station (Clash of Cavalry)

    Fire Fight (SPI)                     $  7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
         exc cond (mostly punched)          5 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    Fulda Gap (SPI)                      $ 15 Donald@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca 
        vg cond (punched)                  12 heilman@BRL.MIL 

    MechWar 2 (two games, one box) (SPI) $ 24 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        Red Star/White Star                22 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        Suez to Golan                      
            map/counters exc cond.         
            (mostly unpunched)             
            box split at 2 corners,         
            repaired with tape

    NATO Division Commander (SPI)        $ 40 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        exc to mint cond                   37 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        (mostly unpunched!)                

    Origins of WW II (AH)                $  8 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       good to vg cond (punched)            7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    The Next War (SPI)                   $ 46 wimple@vulcan.decnet (n)
        exc cond (mostly unpunched!)       45 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 

    War Between the States (SPI)         $ 76 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        exc cond (2 trays)                 70 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        (mostly punched)                   

Box games (larger than bookcase size)

    1914 (AH)                            $ 31 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        good to vg cond (punched)          29 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    Barbarossa (SPI)                     $ 10 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
        (The Russo-German War 1941-1945)    8 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
        vg cond (punched)

    Breakout & Pursuit (SPI)             $ 15 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        (The Battle for France 1944)        
        good cond (punched)

    Grenadier (SPI)                      $ 18 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Tactical Warfare 1680-1850)       17 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        good cond (punched)                

    Normandy (SPI)                       $ 17 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
        (The Invasion of Europe 1944)      15 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Rifle & Saber (SPI)                  $ 27 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
        (Tactical Combat 1850-1900)        26 dht@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (n)
        exc cond (punched)                 

    The Marne (SPI)                      $ 28 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
        (Home Before the Leaves Fall..)    26 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        vg (punched)                       

Tray games

    1812 (SPI)                           $ 35 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
        (The Campaign of Napoleon          34 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
            in Russia)                     
        vg cond (punched)                  

    Cobra (SPI)                          $ 11 pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (n)
        (Patton's 1944 Summer               9 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
           Offensive in France)             
        exc cond (punched)                   

    Descent on Crete (SPI)               $ 40 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (n)
       (May 1941)                          30 hobie%zooid@mail.uunet.ca 
       exc cond (mostly punched)           

    El Alamein (SPI)                     $ 23 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       exc cond (punched)                  17 seningen@ross

    Global War (SPI)                     $ 31 lang@hpgtdlp.fc.hp.com (n)
        (The War Against Germany and       30 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (n)
         Japan 1939-1945)                   
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Invasion America (SPI)               $ 40 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (n)
        (Death Throes of the Superpower)   36 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us (n)
        vg cond (punched)                  

    Island War (4 games) (SPI)           $ 33 dht@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (n)
        (Four Pacific Battles)             32 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
          Bloody Ridge (Guadalcanal)       
          Saipan (Marianas)                
          Leyte (Ret to the Phillipines)   
          Okinawa                          
       exc cond (punched)                  

    Korea (SPI)                          $ 15 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        (The Mobile War 1950-1951)         12 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
        (w/letter to/fr SPI w/ q/a)        
        vg cond (punched)                  

    MechWar 77 (tactical) (SPI)          $  8 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
        (Four Contemporary Conflicts)       7 jayhawk@cygni.att.com (n)
        exc cond (punched)                  

    Modern Battles (4 games) (SPI)       $ 45 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        (Four Contemporary Conflicts)      13 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
          Chinese Farm (Egypt-Israel '73)   
          Golan (Syria-Israel '73)          
          Wurzburg (Soviet-Amer '70s)       
          Mukden (Sino-Soviet '70s)         
        vg cond (punched)

    NATO (SPI)                           $  7 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
        exc cond (punched)                  6 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)

    October War (SPI)                    $ 10 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        (Tactical Armored Combat in the     6 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
          Yom Kippur Conflict Oct '73)      
        exc cond (punched)                  

    Red Star/White Star (SPI)            $ 25 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        exc cond (punched)                 20 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu

    Sinai (SPI)                          $ 10 civl222@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (n)
        (w/ letter to/from SPI              9 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
            w/ quest/ans                    
        vg cond (punched)

    Seelowe (Sea Lion) (SPI)             $ 26 wilson@cssmtf.csus.edu (n)
        (The German Invasion of            25 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
           Britain 1940)                    
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Sniper (SPI)                         $  8 SEDAN@a1.mec.mass.edu (n)
        (House to house fighting WW2)       6 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Sorcerer (SPI)                       $ 16 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        vg cond (punched)                  15 pwork@afit.af.mil (n)

    Terrible Swift Sword (SPI)           $ 45 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us (n)
        (Gettysburg)                       42 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (3 sheets of unp. str. cntrs)      
        exc cond (partly punched)          

    To the Green Fields Beyond (SPI)     $ 55 larryn@col.hp.com (c)
        (The Battle of Cambrai 1917)       30 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        exc cond (punched)                 

    Wacht Am Rhein (SPI)                 $ 95 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        (Battle of the Bulge)              86 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
        exc cond (mostly punched)          

  **War in the East (SPI)                **   cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    
        vg cond (punched)                  45 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
                                           41 dht@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (n)

  **War in the West (SPI)                **   cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    
        (WW2 in Western Europe '39-'45)    38 CLF@eclx.psu.edu (n)
        exc cond (partly punched)          37 dht@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (n)

    War of the Ring (SPI)                $ 80 sap@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (n)
        board game w/characters and        75 awolanow@us.oracle.com (n)
          Gandalf, Frodo, etc              
        mint cond! (unpunched)             
            (1 or 2 counters in            
               tray bins)                   

    WW3 (SPI)                            $ 15 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
        (w/ lett to/from SPI                5 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
           w/ quest/answ on game)           
        exc cond (punched)

    Wilderness Campaign (SPI)            $ 15 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Lee vs Grant)                     14 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
        w/ lett to/from SPI                
           w/ quest/answ on game           
        vg cond (punched)                  

Bagged games (I can get trays for these at $2.25 per tray)
    (I can get some generic mailing boxes, 9x12, as well, $0.75 ea)
    each game has at least a 9x12 manila folder for the rules and cntrs 
    I'll be able to furnish more detail about these games later
      (hopefully by Thursday)

    Attack of the Mutants (Yaquinto)     $  3 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        unpunched                           2 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    1918 (SPI)                           $ 26 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
                                           25 larryn@col.hp.com (n)

    Lord of the Rings (2 mini-games)     $ 25 awolanow@oracle.com 
       The Siege of Minas Tirith            7 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
       Battle of the Slag Hills             6 seidl@soda.berkeley.edu 
       (contains the mini-games ONLY)       
     (does NOT include War of the Ring!)    

    Napoleon at Waterloo (old version)   $ 10 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (with advanced expansion)           9 blum@medici.ils.nwu.edu (n)
        (punched)

    Napoleon at Waterloo (new version)   $  6 jayhawk@cygni.att.com
        (unpunched)

    Napoleon at Waterloo (new version)   $  6 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (unpunched)                         5 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
        (yes, there's 3 copies of this!)    

    Strategy 1 (SPI)                     $ 18 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
        poor cond (punched)                15 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us 

    USN (SPI)                            $ 16 mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (n)
       (original rules missing)            10 rchase@nyx.cs.du.edu 
       (xerox copy of rules included)       

    Battle of HUE (Conflict Sim)         $ 10 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us 
                                            8 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

Magazines (with games)

    Conflict #5 Nomonhan 1939            $ 28 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
       (includes the game Khalkhin Gol)    25 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       good cond (punched)                  
       (also incl. cntrs to "BEF            
           Expansion to `France 1940'"      
        (cntrs only, no map, no rules)

    Conflict #6 (1973) War in Indochina  $ 25 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       (includes the game Dien Bien Phu)   10 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

    Conflict #7 (1974) Civil War Special $ 31 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game Rifle and Musket)   30 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       good cond (punched)                 
       (also incl. the game "Alamo"         

    S&T  #31  War in the Air             $ 22 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
       (incl. the game Flying Circus)      20 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    S&T  #32  Napoleon at War            $ 15 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game Borodino)           14 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        good cond (punched)                 

    S&T  #33  Winter War                 $ 20 pwork@afit.af.mil
       (incl. the game Winter War)         15 jmyers@hydra.unm.edu  

    S&T  #34  Armageddon                 $ 19 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
       (incl. the game Armageddon)         18 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #35  Year of the Rat, 'Nam '72 $  10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Year of the Rat)     7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
 
    S&T  #36  Dest. of Army Group Center $ 22 delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu (n)
       (incl. the game Destruction of      20 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
                  Army Group Center)       

    S&T  #37  Ardennes/Scrimmage         $ 10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Scrimmage)           8 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #40  Panz. Armee Afrika         $ 11 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Panz Armee Afrika)  10 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)  

    S&T  #42  The East is Red            $ 10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game East is Red)         9 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #43  The American Civil War     $ 11 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game The Amer. Civ War)  10 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)

    S&T  #44  Tank!                      $ 12 heilman@BRL.MIL 
       (incl. the game Tank!)               5 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
      (plus expanded rules)                 
      (punched)                             

    S&T  #45  Oper. Oly. (Inv. of Jap.)  $ 12 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Operation Olympic)  11 hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (n)

    S&T  #46  Combined Arms              $  8 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Combined Arms)       7 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    S&T  #49  Frederick the Great        $ 20 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Fred. the Great)    16 civl222@csc.canterbury.ac.nz

    S&T  #50  Battle for Germany         $ 20 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Battle for Germ.)   19 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)

    S&T  #51  World War 1 1914-1918      $ 19 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game World War 1)        18 larryn@col.hp.com (n)
       (top corner of cover has rip)       

    S&T  #52  Oil War                    $  8 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Oil War)             7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       vg cond (punched)                    

    S&T  #53  The Punic Wars             $ 25 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (n)
       (incl. the game Punic Wars)         20 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #54  Westwall (4 Battles to Germ.) 7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Dixie)               5 jayhawk@cygni.att.com 

    S&T  #55  Thirty Years War           $ 17 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game Breitenfield)       11 jsk52145@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 

    S&T  #56  Revolt in the East         $ 14 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Rev. in the East)   12 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

    S&T  #57  Panzergruppe Guderian      $ 18 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Panz Gr. Guder.     17 GREGORY_B@gold.colorado.edu (n) 

    S&T  #58  Conquistador               $ 15 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Conquistador)       14 bret@ileaf.com (n)
         exc cond (punched)                

    S&T  #59  The Plot to Ass. Hitler(p) $ 15 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (n)
       (incl. the game The Plot to Ass.     7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
                       Hitler)              
       exc cond (punched)                   

    S&T  #60  Road to Richmond           $ 12 casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (n)
       (incl. the game Road to Richmond)    9 hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (n)
          (The Peninsular Camp. 1862)       
                  (punched)                 

    S&T  #76  The China War (unp)        $  7 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       7 civl222@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (n)

    S&T  #76  The China War (unp)        $  7 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       2 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    S&T  #76  The China War (unp)        $  9 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       4 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #77  Paratroop (pp)             $  8 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
              (Three Great Airborne Ass)    7 jayhawk@cygni.att.com (n)
               Eben Emael (Belgium 1940)    7 rferrel@ecst.csuchico.edu (n)
               Crete (May 1941)             
               Red Devils (Sep 1944)        

    S&T  #78  Patton's 3rd Army (unp)    $ 13 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game Patton's 3rd Army,  12 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
              The Lorraine Campaign)        
         mint cond                          

    S&T  #79  Berlin '85 (unp)           $ 10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Berlin '85,          6 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
           The Enemy at the Gates)          

    S&T  #80  Wilson's Creek (unp)       $ 14 wilson@cssmtf.csus.edu (n)
       (incl. the game Wilson's Creek,     13 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
            The West's First Battle)       

Magazines (without games)

    Conflict #4 (1973) Soviet Air Power  $  2  out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
      (incl. counters for the game NORAD)   1 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
      (no map or rules avail.)

    Moves # 2 The Battle of Stalingrad   $ 11 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
                                           10 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)

    Moves #29 (Oct/Nov 1976)             $  6 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
                                            5 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
                
    S&T  #38  `CA' WW2 Pac Nav. Warf     $  6 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
      (incl. cntrs, no rules, no map)       5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)

    S&T  #39  Fall of Rome               $  8 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
      (incl. rules and map, no cntrs)       7 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)

    S&T  #41  Mech. Warf.:  Exp. & Exp.  $  5 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    S&T  #47  Wolfpack                   $  7 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
       (incl. cntrs, no rules, no map)      3 out@cs.utwente.nl 

    S&T  #48  Sixth Fleet                $  5 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       (incl. cntrs & rules, no map)        3 GREGORY_B@gold.colorado.edu (n)

    S&T  #61  October War (Yom Kip 73)   $  5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
                                            3 out@cs.utwente.nl 

    S&T  #75  Napoleon's Art of War      $  5 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. map, no cntrs, no rules)      4 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

** Group 2 $ 90 cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu (c)
             83 (combination of best individual bids)

    > War in the East                      45 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
    > War in the West                      38 CLF@eclx.psu.edu (n)

End of Group 2