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barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.150550.12075@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> dunham@cps.msu.edu (Steven B Dunham) writes:
>
>>  2. How much memory would the HP IIp need to print a TeX document;
>>likewise, how much memory would a postscript printer need?
>
>	This is a misleading question with the IIP.  Its input buffer is
>*really* tiny; the extra RAM you add doesn't get used for holding the
>input.  However, you do need RAM for fonts, so you might as well get the 2MB
>expansion card, since it can be upgraded to 4MB by adding your own RAM.  The
>1MB expansion card is already filled up, and isn't much cheaper than the 2MB.
>

I strongly second Dan's suggestion that you use dvi2lj instead of DVIPrint.
However, if you DO use DVIPrint, you will have to have enough memory in
the printer to hold a whole page of graphics (1.5 megs minimum, to be safe),
since DVIPrint works by sending a raster graphics image of the page.
(Yes, Dan does send out dvi2lj; he's where I got mine.  Thanks, Dan!)

>>3. What is the printing speed for a HP IIp with a TeX document
>
>	Because of the tiny input buffer, it is definitely slower than the
>"4 pages per minute" that the printer can do.  Maybe 1-2 pages per minute
>for a large document.

On my IIP, I'd have said that it's faster than that.  In fact, I'm sure 
it's always been faster than 1 ppm.  It will depend a bit on how many 
control codes are needed in the text to get the spacing right.  Compare 
with around two minutes per page with DVIPrint.  dvi2lj works by 
downloading the characters actually used in the document as softfonts,
then sending commands to print those characters at the right locations.
The "location" codes greatly expand the number of bytes over what's
sent for just the characters, but it's still vastly less than a graphics
image of each page.  --  Note that the IIP+ has a significantly faster
interface, so it won't be slowed as much by communications bottlenecks.

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From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: DAT drivers for the AMIGA???????
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:24:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Danny R. Boxhoorn (danny@shapley.astro.rug.nl) wrote:

> The speed of a DAT, or any TAPE for that matter, and the data-density of it
> are not related to each other. This means that it is possible to use
> DATs at f.e. 5 times the usual speed while keeping the data-density (measured

Perhaps, but the DAT backup device I bought (an Archive Python, from a
Sun workstation) does not do this.  I don't know of any that do for
workstations either.  They all use audio transfer speeds, but you get a
little more bandwidth from compression depending on the data you are
transferring.

  - steve
From: dave@news.ccutah.edu (dave martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Postscript interpreters (and Final Copy)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:46:03 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Is post 1.7 postscript 2.0 compatible?  I've used final copy 1.3 to produce
postscript output which post1.7 then chokes on.  Is it final copy's fault
or post?
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From: MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf)
Subject: FORGOT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:26:04 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Forgot to tell the real reason *why* I'm getting all this stuff for my mother:
She get's my *old* 500+add ons+software. I get a 2000 or 3000,with all the
extras (well, not *all*, but quite enough thank you!). So there! What more 
could I ask for? Your answers to my plea. :)
Thank you for your patience,
				-Mika
Mhanninen@Finabo.Abo.Fi
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Fix for PPage 3.0 Avery Label #4241 page genie
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 11:49:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

This is a fairly obscure bug fix but on the hopes that it may help
someone else reading this someday, here it is:

This has to do with the "page genie" in Gold Disk's Professional
Page 3.0 used for printing on Avery dot matrix printer labels model #4241 
(3.5" floppy disk labels on continuous form perforated pinfeed stock,
sold 250 to the package (I bought them at Comp U.S.A.)).

The page genie creates the page template in the perfect size. It then
puts one text box onto the page into which you can type text, import
graphics, or both. However when printed, on SOME printers such as
a DeskJet or Epson 9-pin printers (which I use), each label will
print out 2 7/8ths inches high instead of 3 inches. What this means
is that after a few labels, your artwork will run right off the
top edge of the label and you'll have to stop printing and reset
the position of the labels under the printhead. 

The solution is, after the page genie creates the page and puts
the single box on it, use the text box button and ADD another
empty text box below that single box, and this new empty box
should start at the bottom of the genie-created box and end
at the very bottom of the page. This text box will be exactly
1/8" high and the width isn't really important. 

Doing this will make multiple labels on this particular Avery
stock print out perfectly, each one with your artwork aligned
where it should be, from one label to the next, no matter how many 
you print.
I got this info today from "Joe" on Gold Disk's tech help support
line. They had actually heard about the problem before and had
devised this simple workaround fix. Joe was friendly, intelligent,
courteous, and they answered the phone in a couple rings. He
solved the problem and phoned me back with the solution in less than
5 minutes. 

NOw that's what I call tech support.  And the ease with which 
PPage 3.0 can do repetitive and common page and formatting setup
tasks with these ARexx-driven "genies" is wonderful. I'm not sayin'
this is the be-all end-all in DTP software.. far from it. It still
has some bugs and it's still quirky at times and slow at others. 
But with the addition of the ARexx genies, and its excellent
quality on my seven year old printer, I'm impressed.

Harv
From: Rick_Lang@amusers.UUCP (Rick Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: HD info program?
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:22:10 PST
Organization: The Amiga Users Group of Victoria BC

In a message dated Wed  9 Sep 92  2:47, yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov wrote:

 Y> cylinder.  I then formatted the drive out to this cylinder MINUS 1,
 Y> and it
 Y> worked ok.  I then did an INFO command, and noticed that my 40M HD was
 Y> only
 Y> about 38.9M formatted under FFS.  (Actually, that total number also

I'll bet you have the correct maximum cylinder with this technique however
cumbersome.  Different manufacturers describe their drives with varying
interpretations of what constitutes a megabyte: some say 1,000,000 and some
mean 1,048,576 - there's no standard in the drive business; some also may
further deceive you by quoting unformatted capacity which is much higher
than formatted.  The drive may have it's bad blocks written on a label
affixed to the top of the drive - if this is blank, you may have a drive
with no hard errors.

Instead of all this guess work, tell us what drive, manufacturer, model you
own and someone is sure to have it too.



 -- AEd V1.36/Eval

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Rick Lang   AmUsers Victoria, B.C.   please respond publically as I do not 
have netmail.
A M I G A   U S E R   G R O U P ,   V I C T O R I A ,   B C   C A N A D A
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From: srn@cs.su.oz.au (Stephen Robert Norris)
Subject: Public screens
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:23:36 GMT
Summary: Need aprogram to open big ones!
Keywords: opening them.

	Does anyone have a program which will open large public screens, that
I can then scroll around in and that is also stable?

	Stephen

--
Stephen Norris - CS4.  srn@minnie.cs.su.oz.au
                       steven@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Postscript interpreters
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:33:14 CDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Sep4.120651.29740@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
> I have heard of two Postscript interpreters, Post 1.7 and
> SaxonScript (are there others?). How do they compare? The
> review I read on SaxonScript did not mention Post 1.7. Is
> Post 1.7 faster? I understand that Post 1.7 cannot output
> full colour, is this correct? If SaxonScript was really
> great I would shell out the 100 quid, but not if Post 1.7
> can do it all.
>
> --
> Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
> Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889

I don't know about SaxonScript, but POST works great for me.  I have
printed color seperations with it, but I dont have a color printer,
so I've not tried color postscript.  Plus POST is free.
--

=====================================================================
 Robert Kesterson             "First learn computer science and all
 robertk@taoami.lerctr.org    the theory.  Next develop a programming
                              style.  Then forget all that and
                              just hack."        -- George Carrette
From: JEFF-G@cup.portal.com (Jeff - Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: PP20 to ASCII?
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 05:06:02 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Somewhere I recall seeing a file that will convert PP20 (PPmore) .txt
files into 'regular' ASCII for use on a word_processor, can anyone direct
me to such a file?
			
Thanks, Jeff Griffin
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From: sloan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dale Dean Sloan)
Subject: Re: Excellence! 3
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:36:01 GMT

I want to upgrade to Excellence! 3.x, but I bought my copy from a previous
owner so I didnt get an upgrade notice.  Could someone e-mail me the correct
address for upgrades?  Thanx.

-- 
[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]
Dale Sloan                                    AAARRRRGGGHHAHAHAHAHEHEHE 
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee                       - Bob. 
sloan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                  Disclaimer: I barely speak for myself
From: clin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chihtsung Jeffrey Lin)
Subject: Does Dir. Opus support public screen?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:28:38 GMT

Hi,
	
I have Directory Opus, uhh, version 3.41 I think. Anyone know if you can use    
the Opus screen as a public screen? the manual had no explanation of that.      
If  it doesn't supported, then it sucks! sorry, I'm just grouchy today.

Jeff :)
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Postscript interpreters
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:06:51 GMT
Organization: City University, London

I have heard of two Postscript interpreters, Post 1.7 and
SaxonScript (are there others?). How do they compare? The
review I read on SaxonScript did not mention Post 1.7. Is
Post 1.7 faster? I understand that Post 1.7 cannot output
full colour, is this correct? If SaxonScript was really
great I would shell out the 100 quid, but not if Post 1.7
can do it all.

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
From: dunham@cps.msu.edu (Steven B Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: PasTeX and Laser Printers
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:05:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: dunham@pacific.cps.msu.edu


Hello, a friend of mine has an Amiga 3000, and is using PasTeX with to
typeset documents.  He is currently looking into getting a Laser
printer; hence we have a few questions for the net:


  1. Will DVIprint drive a HP IIp without the postscript cartridge? If
not, does there exist a driver for the Amiga that will?
  2. How much memory would the HP IIp need to print a TeX document;
likewise, how much memory would a postscript printer need?
  3. What is the printing speed for a HP IIp with a TeX document, and
what is the speed for a postscript printer.
  4. What laser printer in the ~$800 range does the net reccommend for
the purpose of printing TeX on an Amiga?

Thank you for your time,
Steve
dunham@cps.msu.edu
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From: dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan)
Subject: Final Copy's upgrade cost
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:05:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.214624.29972@news.iastate.edu> taa33@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
|Final Copy II is just out (i sent my order for it yesterday after seeing it in
|Amiga World) and I am looking forward to getting it.  BTW it is $35 for an 
|upgrade from 1.3, a little high if you ask me.
|
	After all the free upgrades I've gotten from Softwood, on Pen Pal,
Final Copy and Proper Grammar, I'll gladly pay them $35 for one that
promises what the AW ad promises for FC rev 2.

	Style sheets, structured line, box and oval tools and a 1.4 million
word thesaurus (among the other promised features) are worth a crummy $35.


dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com   ...uunet!tronsbox!dfrancis     GEnie: D.HEFFERNAN1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I don't understand why you make such a big deal out of everything...haven't
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From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: Re: Post 1.7 and dvips
Keywords: doesn't work
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.042229.19206@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> zcapd49@ucl.ac.uk (Mr C Jomaron) writes:
>barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep7.193924.9744@ultb.isc.rit.edu> kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
>>>	I tried using Post 1.7 with the Amiga port of dvips.  I converted
>>>texrexx.dvi to texrexx.ps.  I then tried to print it with post.  I get an
>>>error of stackoverflow: /CharBuilder.  Increasing the all mem allocation
>
>>	No, it's a bug in dvips.  I had the exact same problem, and here
>>is what I discovered.
>>...

No, it's not a bug.  Tell dvips 5.47 NOT to compress the font encoding.  As
far as I recall, some option like 'Z' will do that for you.  It's
documented and can be "permanently" set in the dvips.config file (or
whatever it's called.)

 ._.  Udo Schuermann     "If I went around calling myself emperor just because
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu  some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd
 Seeking virtual memory   put me away!"         -- Monty Python's "Holy Grail"
From: ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Final Copy's 35 fonts?
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:11:31 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <sbiddle.065o@aviate.welly.gen.nz> sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.160737.15429@city.cs>,
>	lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>>Are Final Copy's 35 included fonts the 35 Postscript Classic by
>>any chance? If so, can they be used in PPage3 as well? Also can
>>Soft-Logiks Soft Faces be used in anything other than Final Copy?
>
>They are not true Adobe fonts, they are a variation, known as Nimbus Q,
>and apparently have several advantages. You cannot use standard Type 1 or 3
>fonts in Final Copy, and there are no other packages that support Nimbus Q
>currently on the Amiga (there are several on the PC though, where the
>format originated from)

A related question--I would like to use Final Copy (II) to print
(remotely) on a PostScript printer that has the standard Adobe fonts
built-in (Times-Roman, Helvetia, Courier).  Is this possible, i.e.
does Final Copy have fonts that have dimensions identical to the
Adobe fonts?

John_Ampe@att.com
From: jonathan@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan Cano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: DMCS 2.0
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:15:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna) writes:

>In article <1992Sep14.051758.3275@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>
>>Another much heralded project was confirmed today at World of Commodore

>With the prevalence of MODs and Trackers now (all either PD or shareware) I
>really don't see DMCS 2.0 surviving.

I know plenty of people who are dying for a music program that has a
good traditional music notation interface!  I corresponded with them
via email when I was trying to find a replacement for DMCS.  I ended
up not using my amiga much for music anymore.  If EA does a good
job on the upgrade then I'm a sold customer!!!

--Jonathan


>Jeff
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From: adamkp@rs6115.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Adamkovics)
Subject: Any PD Databases for Compact Disks??
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:53:12 GMT


Are there any databases specifically for compact disk collections in the public domain?
If so, can anyone tell me where to find it/them?   I have been using a spreadsheet, but 
that doesnt work too well.  So if you know anything drop me a line, or post it on the net.
Thanks.


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From: zcapd49@ucl.ac.uk (Mr C Jomaron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:53:58 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler) writes:

>David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn) writes:


>>re:XPK

>>I want something that I put in WBStartup, and is automatic from there on
>>out.  The Mac has it (Autodoubler) ... why can't we?

>Wait for XPK Release 2 ! The XFH-Handler supplied with this version can
>crunch files automatically. BTW Implder may be more efficient on executables,
>but you can't crunch datafiles with it, because no program would be able
>to read them anymore.
>-- 
>Matthias Scheler                                         tron@uni-paderborn.de
>University of Paderborn (Germany)

Sounds Great ! Only...where do we get XPK from ?????

Chris
From: David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:18:03 GMT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.22 (Sep 08 1992)


re:XPK

As of the last version I saw, 1.0, it could not compress, ON THE FLY,
files saved to it - one had to manually compress the files.  Also, it
didn't seem to save as much space as Imploder did.

For the short term, I'll stick with Imploder.

I want something that I put in WBStartup, and is automatic from there on
out.  The Mac has it (Autodoubler) ... why can't we?



-- 
David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us
.. david corn ...
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From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders )
Subject: Re: Why Final Copy 1.3 crash with DEL-HELP?
Originator: kxs5829@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:10:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.211256.8544@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bchiu@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Chiu) writes:
>
>Hello, 
>
>    I have Final Copy 1.3 and it crashes whenever I press the DELETE key
>and HELP key together.  The page number turns to something rediculously
>large, mouse pointer disappears, and the system froze.  Enforcer reports
>endless number of errors, and that upsets me especially when I have lost
>more then 20 minutes worth of unsaved work.

	Mine crashes when I press the help key (version 1.3 Revision 2).

	- Kyle

-- 
+-"Remember, [MS]DOS is sort of a UNIX deviant already" - dmoscny@piglet.-----+
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| \ //      /--\MIGA     kyle@nick.csh.rit.edu                    oh.us       |
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From: abair@parsons.sps.mot.com (Alan Bair)
Subject: Re: The DeskJet
Organization: AMCU, Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas.
	<4591@disuns2.epfl.ch> <1992Sep4.122956.28866@sarah.albany.edu>
	<92248.125436RJB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:10:22 GMT

In article <92248.125436RJB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> RJB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Rich Belcinski) writes:

   I've been following some "deskjet" threads, and I'd like to ask the following:

   I want to buy a DJ500C printer soon, and I might use it with either Prowrite
   or Final Copy.  Does the preferences driver handle this printer well?  Do I
   need to consider a 3rd party driver to get the most from it?  I haven't
   purchased the WP program yet either, so would also entertain opinions on
   print-quality, ease of control, etc. from the aforementioned programs

   Thanks,
   Rich

I have a DJ500C (its printing right now :) and it works just fine with 
FinalCopy. However, you do need a separate driver, since there was not one
with 2.04 that supports color. If you only want B/W, the supplied ones may
work OK, but why buy the DJ500C in that case.

After searching in many places and trying several PD drivers, I found one 
from CBM that works just great. I don't know off hand exactly where I found
it, but it is called goodcolorjet.lzh. The README indicates it is a CBM
beta driver for the DJ500C. The driver itself is called HP_500C. The README
describes some good settings for PrinterGfx, but I found the following to
be the best: Threshold=13 Density=6 No Color correction.

Hope this helps. If you can't find the driver, I could send it to you.
--
Alan Bair             		AMCU DSCS
Motorola, Inc.            	    (Design Software &
Mail Stop OE-320		     Computer Services)
6501 William Cannon Dr. West	
Austin, TX  78735-8598          abair@parsons.sps.mot.com
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