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From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: MCC vote of no confidence
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:56:23 GMT


The proposed vote of no confidence in the England selectors was defeated last
night by 6400 votes against to 4600 votes in favour. Those attending the
meeting (1100) voted 700 for and 400 against. The vote was defeated by the
weight of postal votes.


AC
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From: bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Subject: Re: The best ever Test  XIs
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:40:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.003658.22014@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> dv@welch.jhu.edu writes:

>> WEST INDIES
>> -----------
>> Gordon Greenidge
>> Conrad Hunte
>> George Headley (c)
>> Everton Weekes
>> Viv Richards
>> Clyde Walcott (wk)
>> Sir Gary Sobers
>> Wes Hall
>> Joel Garner
>> Michael Holding
>> Lance Gibbs
>> =====================
>> 
>> Dare any of you to come up with a better XI from any of the above  
>> countries! Suggestions about South Africa will be welcome.
>> 
>> - Scrooge McDuck

	Malcolm Marshall for any one batsman !

Ciao,
Bhaskar
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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Subject: India Vs England 2nd ODI latest at 10:04 GMT
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:07:33 GMT


England  198/6 ( 50 Overs )


	India

Sidhu	   not out	71
Prabhakar	???     30+
???????		???     ??
Azharuddin not out 	12
Extras
Total	(33 Overs)     141/2

Sorry about ???? above. More when available.

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From: 000087384@vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: A Question?
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:45:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
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Hia!

If you all muat have remembered Gavaskar fulfilled his dreams
of scoring a century at Lords during the Bi-centinnial game held
there about 5 years ago; that too in his last first class match.
Now my question is

	Who were the other batsmen who scored centuries in that 
match.  That there is something common about them is another
point.

Bye
~sandeep

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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Ravi Shastri (Indian team for 1st test)
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:08:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: deci.karnik.727841304
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1993Jan24.004904.18604@leland.Stanford.EDU> rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran) writes:

>In article <karnik.727831107@deci> karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:

>>Raman.... We need a replacement for Manjrekar, and Shastri is the only
>>obvious candidate.

>Disagree here. We need both Manjrekar and Shastri back in the side.

	Eventually, yes of course. But Manjrekar needed a break to sort
out his problems, and play himself back into form. I think making him
sit out this series may do him some good......

>Rohan Chandran				             rohanc@leland.stanford.EDU


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From: deepakd@palomar.Eng.Sun.COM (Deepak Dhamdhere)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket in the Gulf
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:00:29 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: palomar
Summary: Sports in Iraq
Keywords: golf, smirk

In article <1993Jan21.174646.12314@hspice.portal.com> gregw@hspice.portal.com () writes:
>On CNN last night, they showed the UN weapons inspectors
>getting off the bus after being allowed back in Iraq.
>
>The second or third guy off the bus had a cricket bat
>conspicuously sticking out of his bag, handle first.
>
>Yay dudes!
>
>-- Greg
>
>"But they said it was an Iraqi cricket ball, how was I to
>know it was a hand grenade?"
>
>-- Greg

The fourth guy off the bus was carrying a golf bag on his back and
was headed for a golf course in Southern Iraq. After all, Iraq had 
to use the old mine fields for something... :-)

-------
Deepak
From: ckhan@bbn.com (Chico Kahn (Room # 20/317 B))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: West Indies team for fourth test
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:30:20 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
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In article <3125.2b607d88@vger.nsu.edu>, j_graham@vger.nsu.edu writes:
> I cannot believe that the West Indies have dropped Jimmy Adams.
> If you have 4 fast bowlers, we do not need Hooper's bowling and we
> probably need Adam's batting more.  Besides Adams has earned his 
> place in the team. 

True on every count, except perhaps the point about not needing Hooper's
bowling.  Evidence last night when Benjamin appeared to be slightly
hurt.  However, the bowler does not HAVE to be Hooper.  I think in a
crunch we could have used either Simmons or Adams to give one of the
fast bowlers a rest.

But the big point is Adams.  I can see no reason why he is not playing.
True, Arthurton did have a Test century earlier in the tour and Hooper
is a better bowler, but Adams is a much more stable bat than either and
it has been our batting which has been failing us.


> With our suspect batting lineup, I think that 7 batsmen should be tried
> in this test. If we had failed to win with 7 batsmen then I could see us
> gamble some more. Anyway I am rooting for them.

With Ambrose bowling the way he his, I think we should have the MCC
change the laws so that we can just have Ambrose bowling from both ends
and play 10 batsmen!  It's about time there was a rule change FOR the
West Indies... 

 
|> Jonathan Graham (Bajan on the net)

Chico.

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From: sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: scorecard WI-Aus
Date: 24 Jan 1993 22:07:35 -0600
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M. Taylor       c. Hooper b. Bishop       1
M. Waugh        c. Simmons b. Ambrose     0
J. Langer       c. Murray b. Benjamin    20
A. Border       c. Hooper b. Ambrose     19
I. Healy        c. Hooper b. Ambrose      0
S. Waugh        c. Murray b. Ambrose     42
M. Hughes       c. Murray b. Hooper      43
S. Warne        lbw. Hooper               0
Extras                                   29
194 / 8
D. Boon         34
T. May           6


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From: colin@physci.uct.ac.za (COLIN HENDERSON)
Subject: Cover drives
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 12:52:35 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town
Keywords: Lamb, Gower, Azhar

On Saturday, I saw one of the best cover drives of my life.  Alan Donald to 
Allan Lamb, a bit too full outside the off stump, a little too much width, 
the front foot takes a measured pace, balance changes, the body 
straightens, almost leans back. The bat swings through, flashes twice in the 
sun, an almost casual stroke. The ball is a blur, a line between the 
fielders. The man sweeping the cover fence moves two paces before the ball 
thumps into the pickets.  It almost beat one I saw Pollock execute about 10 
years ago...

My question is:  How do Lamb's cover drives compare with Gower's?  Was Lamb 
part of England's dull efficiency, or was he one of the strokemakers?  How 
much of an outcry was there when he was dropped?  He stands head and 
shoulders above any other batsman in this country this past season, for 
style, crowd pleasing, and average.  Definitely cricket left in him.  I'd 
have thought he'd have done very well in India.  What are the chances of a 
recall?

The one thing I have against Lamb is his attitude in the field. He seems 
rather casual about it, as if it's a chore he has to suffer, but not try 
very hard at, because he's there for his batting.


BTW, in about the 9-11th overs in the last ODI, Donald was bowling to four 
slips.  How often does that happen, I wonder?  He started with two, added a 
third in his third over, and a fourth the next over, after Plantema edged 
one wide of third slip.  His figures?  At that stage, about 6 overs for 10 
runs, four of which I've just mentioned.
--

Colog "nku-e-shweleng" the Henderdog
Physics Dept, UCT, South Africa.
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From: VENKATV@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (V. Venkataramanan)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of ...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:03:53 GMT


In article <1k4h2bINNdu@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rajesh@ivy (Rajesh Raman) writes:


	...Doug Walters ? I don't know much of him. Could someone post
	som stuff on him, please ?
--

Rajesh Raman

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 Doug walters belonged to the Ian Chappel era. If memmory serves me right
he was known for his explosive strokes on the off side esp. cover drive
and the square cut. i also vaguely remember reading somewhere that he was
suspect outside the off stump esp. on green tops often found in England.
Possibly some of our friends on the net from O-z land can come up with
something more
-venkat
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Leading Test Averages.
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:32:42 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1993Jan24.225739.24002@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.075400.99@iwsd01.itwol.bhp.com.au> WEABEP@DEVAX1 (Peter ABELA) writes:
>>In <1993Jan18.224754.12134@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sakthi@enuxha.eas.asu.edu writes:
>>> 
>>> This is simply too atrocious a statement to make. Kapil was/is considered 
>>> one of the four greatest allrounders, cricket has ever produced. Sir ! Do
>>> you really know what that means? 
>>> 
>>I don't think he's one of the best four ever. He was one of the best four in
>>the eighties, but to rank him ahead of players like Sir Garfield Sobers and
>>Keith Miller is ridiculuos. He would probably be in the top ten all-rounders,
>>along with guys like Davidson, Benaud etc, and just behind Imran, Hadlee and
>>Botham.
>>
>>
>>The Speaker.
> 
> Please! Tp rate Hadlee as a better all-rounder than Kapil, or any of the other
> great all-rounders for that matter, is ludicrous. Hadlee was a truly great
> bowler - the best of those you mentioned above. But his batting was not in the
> same class at all. His all-round capabilities were not as good as Kapil or 
> Imran or Botham. I am not really in a position to comment on Benaud, but I 
> would wager that the same applies to him. 
> 	Sobers, of course, stands above the rest. Kieth Miller too I would
> think, although I don't know his stats offhand, and I haven't seen very much of
> him playing. You could justifiably rank Kapil behind Botham, although I can
> see arguments both ways on that one. Imran was a better bowler in his prime
> perhaps, but Kapil had the superior batting for the most part so that again is
> a very subjective question. But Hadlee, although being a better bowler than all
> of these, was not in the same class as an all-rounder. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rohan

If by leading allrounder you mean a player who would have made the team solely
as a batsman or as a bowler then I would say Sobers then Botham with the rest
scrambling!

McBean
> 
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> 1991 League Cup				*
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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Stats on Shastri needed
Keywords: Shastri, Cricket
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:48:44 GMT

In <Jan.23.20.45.22.1993.15963@remus.rutgers.edu> shankar@remus.rutgers.edu (Flying Eagle) writes:


>Since, Shastri has come back to the limelight again in this newsgroup,
>it seems almost appropriate to evaluate him on his performance
>statistically, and not by how/who he is judged by. Let the stats speak
>for themselves. Unfortunately, I don't have the exact figures, and I
>so I would ask any kind sould with that information to post it on the
>newsgroup. Thanks.

I only have his Test stats (thanks to Rob Pickett):

Batting:

Name     Tests     Inns     No     HS      Runs      Ave     100's     50's
Shastri   80       121      14    206      3830     35.79     11       12


Bowling:

Name      Balls     Runs     Wkts     Ave    Best      5w      10w      SR
Shastri   15751     6185      151    40.96    5-75      2        0    104.31


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From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Akram
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:57:35 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan26.222152.24592@leland.Stanford.EDU> rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.200402.18044@cs.sfu.ca> apurva@cs.sfu.ca (Apurva Desai) writes:
>>That would not only be a loss to Pakistan cricket but also to world cricket.
>>I hope it doesn't mark the end of The Best Bowler In The World Today.
>er... where does Curtly Ambrose come into this????????
>Rohan

Curtly ranks himself second to Wasim, with Waqar coming in thirs.
Several cricketing enthusiast will have problems seeing Waqar below
Wasim, let alone Curtly.. Me... I rank Wasim, Curtly, and Waqar in top
three, with the final ranking depending on current form.

	   Salman [expert commentator] Azhar




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From: vr@cs.brown.edu (Viswanath Ramachandran)
Subject: Re: Who visited first after WC'83(WI/Pak)?
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:13:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.174440.63126@cc.usu.edu>, sl9z5@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> 	Just after the prudential cup,(1983), we had visits from
|> West Indies and Pakistan almost immediately. (Can't forget the
|> thrashing by the WIs). But I can't place them chronologically.
|> Who visited first? 
|> Also, can anyone account for the centuries no. 27-34 hit by Gavaskar?
|> Murali Seetharaman.


The visit by Pakistan was first. 

Gavaskar's centuries 27-30.

27th. 147* at Bourda, Guyana.
28th. 10?* at Bangalore - this was punctuated by Zaheer's wanting to walk
		          off because the match was dead.
29th. 1??  at Delhi - memorable century from 94 balls - hit Marshall to the
		      midwicket fence to bring up the century. 
30th. 236* at Madras - came in at 2/0 as a virtual opener after electing to drop
		       down the order. 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:30:41 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Selfish Gavaskar & Shastri
 <C1I56J.4Bt@uceng.uc.edu>

In article <C1I56J.4Bt@uceng.uc.edu>, bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan)
says:
>
>I remember we didn't have a spectacular start..Srik. and someone else got
>out trying to do something. I accepted it. They send in Malhotra (of all
>people)
the alternatives were sending in arun lal, kapil , binny or the other bowlers.

>
>        Lloyd tolerates it for some more time, then says, "enough is
>enough", promptly brings back Marshall et al. Kapil falls, Gavaskar now
>throws his bat wildly, get's out. And it was all over.
kapil remained not out.

>        There you are Mr. Rajesh Raman...all that is from memory and so not
>authentic info. but it was pretty much like it. We lost by 100 odd runs!
>And batsmen like Yashpal, Kirti Azad, didn't get a look in !
that was probably because they weren't playing. neither was dilip vengsarker-
india's best batsman of the series.

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

Non illegitimati carborundum          Don't let the bastards get you down
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Javed Suggested Akram to Lead the Team (Inside story?)
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:45:49 GMT

Pakistan names Akram as Cricket Team Captain on Javed's suggestion

     The Board of  Control for  Cricket in  Pakistan  (bccp)  has
appointed Waseem Akram as  captain of  the Pakistan  cricket team
for  the forthcoming  tours of Sharjah, South Africa and the West
Indies.  The decision was  unanimously  taken at the BCCP Council
Meeting held at  Rawalpindi, a twin city of  Islamabad, on monday
under  the  chairmanship of BCCP President  Justice Naseem Hassan
Shah.  BCCP Secretary Shahid Rafi  said former captain Javed Mian-
dad had refused to play under anyone else and had suggested Akram
as captian  in his place.  The manager  and coach of the team for
the forthcoming tour would be announced  shortly, Rafi  said.  He
disclosed that ten more probables have been summoned to the train-
ing  camp to join  the training  of the 21 already  invited which
began in Lahore  Monday.  The  Pakistanis  will leave for Sharjah
either on January 30 or 31 to participate in the tournament invol-
ving Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe and play their first game against Sri
Lanka on February 1.  They are scheduled to go to South Africa on
February 7 from Sharjah for another triangular tournament against
the West Indies and South Africa.

Written from news agency reports.

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 28
From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Ravi Shastri (Indian team for 1st test)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:31:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.221013.9276@nmsu.edu>, sbasu@spock (BASU) writes:
|> In article <C1B4zp.Ds0@cs.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)  
|> writes:
|>  
|> > How about Sidhu, Raman/Jadeja, **Kambli**, Tendulkar, Azhar, Kapil Dev,
|> > Yadav, Shastri, Prabhakar,** Kambli**, Raju/Chauhan/Srinath -- thats a
|> > *good* team with lots of balance -- and freedom for the top order bats
|> > to go for it given the depth of the order until #9....
|> 
|> Mentioning Kambli twice in the lineup doesn't give us 1 more batsman. Just  
|> as calling a lamb's tail .....

Urk, I saw that after I posted it -- its Kumble -- sheesh, I haven't
stopped doing this -- did it regularly when I grumbled about the 
team selection for RSA (dropping Kambli)...

Also, Prabhakar can open as well for the ODIs as well as it
is much less tiring...

|> Sorry, but couldn't resist!

|> Scrooge

Getting old folks -- getting old...:-)

Bharat
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From: skumar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shivesh Kumar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Gavaskar Quiz
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:09:18 GMT
Organization: UB
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Shyam Prasad Talluri (spt@engr.LaTech.edu) wrote:

: SO THE NEXT TIME, WHENEVER YOU PASS SOME COMMENTS AGAINST SOMEONE'S 
: CAPABILITIES, BE SURE TO KNOW THAT PERSON MORE.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                Apply to yourself first....

: CRICKET IN YOUR LIFE.  EVEN IF YOU DID, I DON'T CARE.
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                             Then why expect others to care about you??????

: BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME,

: SHYAM PRASAD TALLURI

Can't you trace the 'Caps Lock' in your keyboard??? I'm sure writing in caps
is not going to make you appear any better cricketer than what you are!!
Offcourse only thing it does is it makes reading more difficult.

Best wishes

shivesh
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