HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: feath@agora.rain.com (Feather)
Subject: small wings and other things...
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:37:00 GMT

Feather picks herself up from the table and shakes herself out.  Her 
RL half, the Rainbow Crow, has been happily
beyond the friendship problems that Feather has described earlier.  Not
that anything has been solved in the meanwhile, just that the small gray
one is glad now to attend to more pleasant matters.

"Hey, Thyra!"

Feather gets the attention of her feline friend.

"Are there going to be Brandy Alexanders at the Portland realspace?  Because
I think I may be able to show up!"

Leaving Thyra to ponder that simple question, Feather looks for a place to
perch.  Something soft for her tiny feet.  At the other side of the room
is one small, unsuspecting purring feline.  Feather takes off and lands
on Kitten's head.

"Hi, there!"
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mss2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Utopiae (Was: Amanda wants to be a Kesh)
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:04:45 GMT

In article <u906451.724389939@bruny> u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:

>I prefer the Norse sagas there is so many varied things covered my them.
>Damien.

	"Um, they're great places to read about, but would you really
want to live there?  The Icelandic sagas depict a nice enough place to
live-- if you don't mind getting into life-threatening fights over
status on a regular basis and eating a fairly monotonous diet.  And
the mythological sagas also seem to imply pretty constant fighting and
hardship, even for the gods-- and the gods lose at the end.  The
characters are great, as are the stories, but they're great precisely
because they're in such difficult situations.

	"BTW, can anyone recall the title of the _Compleat Enchanter_
story where Harold Shea transports himself into the world of Norse
myth?  An interesting take on a 20th century type finding himself
hobnobbing with dwarves and gods."

Michael
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mschiffer@aal.itd.umich.edu	    Virginia (1784)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@onetouch.COM (John Palmer)
Subject: Re: Humor (was prejudice)
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:57:08 GMT

mss2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.163404.18923@onetouch.COM> jpalmer@onetouch.COM (John Palmer) writes:

>>    E.g. if a person goes around punching people in the face, if they have to
>>get punched back to stop them, they 'deserve' that. . . hell, they worked for
>>it, they earned it!  (But this stops short of arbitrarily decided upon
>>punishments. . . why do they call it a 'justice system' instead of a
>>'systematic process to exact revenge against those who do not follow our
>>arbitrary legal code'?)

>	"For the same reason that the US Constitution guarantees
>`freedom of speech' or rights to `life, liberty, and property' rather
>than `our imperfect and often arbitrary wishes'.  

    Ooops. . .I forgot to include lots of smileys to imply cynical sarcasm or
sarcastic cyncism. ..  sorry about that.  

    I have gone on record as saying that we don't have a justice system, we
have a revenge system, and I stand by that. . . but I do agree that we would
try to find 'justice' if we had any idea what it was.

-- 
John Palmer					jpalmer@onetouch.COM
Columbus, OH					...!uunet!onetouch!jpalmer
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: It's a girl!
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:52:08 GMT
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: brumby@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au's message of 11 Dec 92 14:16:34 GMT

In article <brumby.724083394@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au> brumby@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara) writes:

>   At one minute to eight this evening, Friday the eleventh of December,
>Jennifer Rhiannon McNamara was born [...]

>   This was the first time in my life that I have cried for joy. I don't
>think I will ever forget it.

Castellan's glass joins many others in a fireplaceward trajectory.
"Congratulations Stephen and Robyn, and welcome to life, Jennifer!"

--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: So much for dramatic exits.
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:07:45 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec11.041557.21233@atlantis.uucp>, aaron@atlantis.uucp writes:
=There is a bit of an embarrassed cough and Alfvaen shimmers back into
=existence, a look of relief on his face.  "Well, that wasn't very long, was
=it?
=
="At suppertime tonight, I got a phone call from a guy named Dan Berry.
=Sherwood, the sysadmin at Space Physics, put me in touch with him, because he
=runs a UUCP site called Atlantis off of his home NeXT, from a feed at the
=University.  And he was receptive to the idea of giving me an account...  So,
=boom.  I had an account.
=
="So here I am, back again.  I'm not quite sure how email to me works...perhaps
=those more knowledgeable about UUCP sites could say.  But I think that bouncing
=it off of uunet.uu.net will work, or for that matter bouncing it off
=ualberta.ca somewhere.  My feed won't be instantaneous, either, but still
=better than nothing.

Bouncing it off uunet.uu.net doesn't seem likely to work, unless you've got
multiple connections.  According to the Path: field in your headers, your route
is via kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca, not via uunet.uu.net.  So the most likely address
would be, depending on which syntax your mailer (and the one on kakwa) likes:
		kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!atlantis!aaron
or
		atlantis!aaron@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
or
		atlantis%aaron@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
or
		@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca:aaron@atlantis
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Quantum (and untutored Zen) and Beliefs (was Re: Absolutes)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:10:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Dec16.191717.8940@bmerh85.bnr.ca> yho@utcs.utoronto.ca writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.071934.10716@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.223721.4614@data-io.com> li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:
>>>The existance or inexistance of God is one of those questions.  By some
>>>attitudes it *must* be true or it *must* be false, it cannot be both.  By
>>>my argument, since it cannot be proven, then both those who believe it is
>>>true are as valid as those who believe it is false.  In essense, each
>>>belief is as true as the other.

Shrodinger's cat!  God exists as a cloud of probabilities.  Therefore he 
exists.  Hmmm.  Somebody write this down.  (make a nice logical cantrip.)

Hey, how exactly does that shrodinger's cat stuff work, anyway?  I understand
the part about putting the cat in the box and then doing something that may or 
may not kill it, so, until you open the box, you don't know if the cat is
alive or dead.  Now, the part I don't understand is, how does your not knowing
affect the cat?  (Before you open the box, the cat is a cloud of probabilities,
after you open the box, it's one or the other.  This is what I don't exactly
dig)

Big Al heads over to kitten to offer a hug.  "Sorry about all the talk about
dead cats, if it helps any, I don't think anybody ever tried the experiment."

Big Al.  How To Prove Absolutely Anything...


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: RIP
Keywords: more
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:21:19 GMT


In article <1992Dec15.171349.7744@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Minstrel writes:
>Minstrel has been listening to the recent discussions of death and loss.
>Too much suffering...she hasn't Liralen's gift of acceptance, and her eyes
>brim over much too easily.  With a great effort, she rises from her corner
>and approaches Liralen, offering a hug.

Liralen hugs her gently back, for the effort, for the tears, "Thanks for
crying them when I can't." she says softly.

>"I don't know if this will help...it's just some random thoughts, based
>on the experiences and fears of my father, when he learned my mother was
>going to die and leave him with 2 small children to raise, and my cousin,
>who was diagnosed with cancer about a year ago.

Liralen nods and carefully listens to what she says, as well as to what
other advise other patrons have for her in email.  She ducks out of
Callahan's, and comes back in a little while later.   She carefully finds
Minstrel again.

"Thanks.  We've put all your advise to work.  The gift certificates was
something no one really thought of.  We've put together almost $2000, half
of which are going to the kids college funds, half of which is going to be
going to a *really* amazing Christmas for them.  They're going shopping
this weekend, and the celebration is going to be early next week instead of
waiting for Christmas itself as he only really has a week or two."

"We've also offered to cover a house mortgage payment, and the folks
closest to him are also doing their best to make sure that he knows that
his family *will* be taken care of by his friends, afterwards.  There's
even been an organization of a garden work party for when spring thaws.
We've organized meals as I've already told Gecko Boy and are looking into a
hospice program that will make it far easier on the family to take care of
him while he's at home for these last days..."

She sighs, and those who are close notice that there are dark rings under
her eyes.  In RL, she's sneezing and coughing again, a deep bronchial 
cough.  "In addition to all the insanty of getting the floors to our
addition finished, living in hotels while the fumes might kill us, and
getting ready for the holidays, I'll probably just sleep for the first
three days of vacation." Liralen says with a small laugh.  "Don't worry, I
*do* take care of myself when I have the time.  The trick," a small smile,
"is finding the time..."

-- 
Phyllis Rostykus     | "... and how you feel can make it real  | - _US_
aka Liralen Li       | Real as anything you've seen            |   Peter
li@inigo.Data-IO.com | Get a life with this dreamer's dream."  |   Gabriel
From: keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Chess match
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:10:13 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

PCAHN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU writes:

[and a number of other folks]

>>>I'll play ya!  I have the same problem <grin>...
>> 
>> You're on ... ummm, that makes three of us so far.  Can you play three
>> dimensional chess with three people?

>Did I hear a fourth for chess?  We could play tag team, sort of like pool...

That sounds close enough to 4 dimensions (time being the generally
accepted fourth dimension, no?).  Oh, hang on, we just lost Damien; we're
back to 3, until he comes over to visit.

Splash!

--
		Splash!		*To love is to LIVE!*
   (aka Mike van Keulen -- e-mail: keulen@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au)
From: HF.TXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (TJ)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: seduction
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:00:24 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

A very bundled TJ walks in the door of Callahans and walks to the
bar.
"Hello all, brrrrr it's cold out there. A hot toddy please Mike."
Slowly she unlayers herself...jacket, sweater, tutleneck....down
to a t-shirt (long sleeved, of course!) "ah, much better. I've
become something of a wimp living down in the Bay Area, 32 degrees
and I'm freezing....'tis a sad thing.

"Anyway, I've been seduced by seduction....or to be more precise,
the conversation regarding seduction via music, two of my favorite
things! Personally, I've found that _all_ music is condusive to
seduction (except maybe rap, or opera singers with incredibly high
voices) it just depends on what you want out of the seduction, and
of course, who you are seducing. I like things with a slow back
beat....deep bass. Something like Enigma or the Cure's Forrest.
Don't necessarily care about the words, but that music! Yummerishis!

TJ looks sorrowfully down at her (soon to be) empty glass, downs it,
and starts to reapply her layers.
"Back to work. *sigh* If I don't get a chance to get on again, Happy
Holidays everyone!! And may your new year bring you much happiness!"

Waving, she walks back out of the bar.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Re: seduction
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:12:58 GMT

In article <ByrnqD.7s0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>
>kitten has yet another topic for discussion....seduction music.
>
>"i know it is different for people in different age groups....and/or
>dependent on what is popular...but what kind of music do you chose to
>"set the mood", so to speak?
>
>i have known more than one man who uses simon and garfunkle's greatest
>hits.  and a friend of mine swears by bach.  someone last night
>suggested guns 'n roses.  melissa ethridge...
>
>i really am interested..."
>
"I worry about you kitten!  Well, I don't seduce, well not anymore.  But I
would say the best music is generally something the other person can relax to,
and that you can relax to as well.  I like Mozart, Enya and Clannad when my
better half is around for a quiet evening of chatting and D&M."

"To love, and to pleasant evenings."

<crash>

The Nightstalker.
--

Mick Pope,                                          I      "On Christ the
Sir Frank Packer Dept of Theoretical Physics,   ----+----   solid rock I
School of Physics, University of Sydney,            I       stand, all other
Sydney, Australia, 2006.  (02) 692 3241             I       ground is sinking
                                                    I       sand." - C. Wesley
                                                    I 

And the comment for today is:  

          
"To be responsive at this time, though I will simply say, and therefore
this is a repeat of what I said previously, that which I am unable to
offer in response is based on information available to make no such
statement."
From: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: RIP
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:31:33 GMT
Reply-To: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Dec14.175941.13052@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs) writes:
|> Dan'l stands up to his full height, and slowly walks to the bar looking
|> depressed.  As he walks, you can hear him softly punctuating each step
|> step with a fairly mild curse, though obviously a heartfelt one.
|> 
|> "Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn it all anyway!  Mike, Howabout a beer.  Don'
|> care what kind, but I'd like it in a green bottle with a decent heft to it.
|> 
|> Dan'l accepts the bottle, and takes a solid pull from it as he walks up to
|> the chalk line.
|> 
|> "Well guys, on the tail of hearing about Robert's death, I'm afraid that I
|> have another one to unload.  It's not a personal friend, but in some ways
|> it might as well be.  The rumor mill is buzzing, and there is still no
|> first hand confirmation, but it very strongly appears that Tom Piras died
|> in a skydiving accident on saturday.  I hope very much that this is not
|> true, but I fear that it is.  An awful lot of people believe it.  Tom was
|> (is?) one of the greats of skydiving.  A former world champion relative
|> worker himself, he is probably best known for his teaching.  He has coached
|> several world class teams, and perhaps even more importantly he has done a
|> tremendous job of bringing new skydivers into the relative work world.  He
|> often held seminars aimed at the newer jumpers -- those no longer
|> supervised students, but not yet fully accepted into the "experienced
|> jumper" community.

(Information on Tom's death deleted for space conservation.)

|> The beer is nearly gone now, and Dan'l finishes it up thoughtfully.
|> 
|> "Blue Skies, Tom.  We'll miss you!
|> 
|> ***crash***
|> 
|> -- 
|> | Daniel Briggs  (dbriggs@nrao.edu)                      |  USPA B-14993
|> | New Mexico Tech / National Radio Astronomy Observatory |      DoD #387
|> | P.O. Box O / Socorro, NM 87801   (505) 835-7391        | 
|> Support the League for Programming Freedom   (info from lpf@uunet.uu.net)

"Dan'l, I think we all can say that even if we didn't know Tom, we all share
your loss."  Starknight opens his mouth to say more, then shrugs and throws
his glass into the fire.  >>KRASH!<<

-----------
The glory of flight:
Falling free, outside
the boundaries of the world
until at last, slender cords
jerk you safely back to yourself.
		- Sean Roberts, Skydiving
			Poem now in progress
From: keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Chess match
Date: 14 Dec 1992 23:01:25 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:

>Hello all again,
>After a nice weekend away there was over 130 articles here in th bar to read.
>Now onto the subject.

>Before exams I was playing a game of chess against a friend of mine Delroy, or
>Del for short. The game was said to be the battle of the incompedants by both
>of us the game was won by a checkmate by me with a Queen and King verus a King.

Chuckle - sounds like the way I play chess ... unfortunately I couldn't
find a partner who played the same way, and I was continually defeated
soundly.  Needless to say I found the game quite boring after a while, and
haven't played in years :-)

Splash!

--
		Splash!		*To love is to LIVE!*
   (aka Mike van Keulen -- e-mail: keulen@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: henry@netcom.com (Henry Polard)
Subject: Re: INTRODUCTION: Knight and day
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:18:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.220533.15256@ra.msstate.edu> jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>   "Hmm. Someone older than me, but younger than Nick Chopper ! Welcome
>to The Place ! I'm a June, 1947 person myself..." DJ.
Thank you! 
It looks like 1947 was a good year indeed! 
And we've lived long and well enough to experience this place.
Henry goes to the bar, puts a dollar on it and asks for a bowl of kumyss. 
"ANY drink for a dollar - they weren't kidding. Thank you," he says. He drinks 
the kumyss, wrinkling his nose, and muttering "Hmmm..." thoughtfully at 
the intriguing new taste, and walks to the chalk line.

A toast - the the wisdom and folly of age! *crash*

Jimmy, may I buy you a drink? And is there a Keeper of the Ages here,
so that we may know if there are other ancient ones here?

l'chayim

-- Henry Polard, your friendly neighborhood fraternal marxist.
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Ah, there you are!
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:17:57 GMT

Danger Mouse blinks back into existence.

"Hey DM," says Mike, "network problems again?"

"Yep. Sydney was isolated from the Rest of the World for the past few
days, which is why I haven't been saying anything either here or in
e-mail since Monday (14th).

"But I've caught up now. Sorry I didn't have time to send individual
messages to all the newcomers, but Welcome to the Place anyway! And
BTW, what started this strange idea of calling new patrons 'newbies'?
They always used to be called 'newcomers', which, IMHO, is a much
nicer term (doesn't sound somehow derogatory, which 'newbies' does, or
maybe that's just my rec.games.frp.* experience...)."

DM turns to Mike and pushes a dollar coin across the bar in exchange
for a glass of milk. "Now, what trouble can I get myself into... <grin>"

- Danger Mouse.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee)
Subject: Re: Cyber (was Introduction was Eh?)
Reply-To: tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:37:59 GMT

Abner J. Mintz writes:

>"Well, unless I'm still fuzzy on the concept, the intersection of a
>hypersphere and a plane would be a filled-in circle ... in other words, the
>set of all concentric circles with a radius smaller than the radius of
>the hypersphere.  However, I am not a mathematician, so I may well be
>wrong ..."

	That depends on whether your hypersphere is a solid or a surface.

	Solid:  The set of points (x,y,z,w) such that

			x^2+y^2+z^2+w^2 <= R^2

	Surface:  The set of points (x,y,z,w) such that

			x^2+y^2+z^2+w^2 = R^2

	I'm not sure whether the word "hypersphere" includes all points
within the surface, or just the surface itself.  When you say "sphere," do
you mean just the soapy part of the bubble, or all the air inside it too?

	Assuming it's a solid, intersect it with a 3-space and you will get
either an empty set, a single point, or a solid sphere, depending on whether
the space misses the sphere, is tangent to it, or cuts through it.

	The surface of a hypersphere would be a 3-space.  A somewhat weird
3-space.

Thomas J. Lee
From: ice9@hotcity.COM (Jeremy Dragt)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: AAAARRRGGGHHHHH
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:04:03 PST
Organization: BBS

AAARRRRRGGGGHHHH
The door burst open as Avec Chapeau storms into the room screaming to
Mike,"Give a sacrifice Mike and make it a double .....But make it a virgan I
got a twelve page paper to write on creativity and chaos science." 
Mikw tosses it to him as Avec makes a screaching stop on the chaulk line, flame
shooting out from under his Nike's.
  TO BEING BACK, GOTTA GO, NEWS AT 11
  <KER-SLAM>
  Avec Chapeau tears out  of the bar leaving only the bewildered patrons
(except perhaps didi sprite who might remember me) and the smell for burning
two year tennies.
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jason)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Brain damage, and an open filk invitation
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:58:28 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aaa.uoregon.edu

In article <1992Dec10.182719.9922@news.columbia.edu>,
tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee) wrote:
> 
> 	"I've long suspected that my mind was twisted," says the Lamplighter,
> standing up with an odd smile on his face.  "What my obviously damaged brain
> came up with this morning proved it beyond a reasonable doubt."
> 
> 	MOGADISHU
> 	(to the tune of "Oklahoma!")
> 	These few words by Tom Lee
> 
> 	Mogadishu, when Jamal got blown up by a mine
> 	I made a bet
> 	With my friend Khalet
> 	That they'd never get to us in time
> 
> 	Mogadishu, when Marines come swarming up the beach
> 	When the rain has ceased
> 	We'll have a feast
> 	'Cause they gave us twenty lentils each
> 
> 	"Can anybody more talented than me come up with more verses?"


Jason groans at The Lamplighter's challenge. "OK, now you asked for it.
I've been rattling around with filk verses for that since I read your post.
He're's one to tide you over, and I'll see if I can recall enough of them
to finish the filk this evening."

Mogadishu, send in CNN and ABC!
Then we'll send in troops,
with pots of soups,
and we'll watch it live on our TV!

"You have been warned! The filksongs are coming! The filksongs are coming!"
Jason