Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:12:04 EST
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Discrimination today
Distribution: usa
 <1992Nov16.030152.27041@samba.oit.unc.edu> <92321.140514KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Nov18.022101.22918@samba.oit.unc.edu>

Ah, it is the return of the non-factual Parks, who has a definite bias against
anything with the word Black, Negro or Colored in it.  Now to diffuse his
b.s. in his last post:



In article <1992Nov18.022101.22918@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks) says:
>
>>     The NAACP is not a single race entity that is how!!!   There is no race
>>test that has to be passed for memeberships. George Bush and Bill Clinton are
>>two white people that I can name that are members.
>
>The NAACP has a charter in using racial prejudice in who they will support,
>by definition making it a racist organization.

   What?!?  As a card carrying member of the NAACP I have seen no such language
in their charter, literature, history or anything else.  There is no denying
that the purpose of the founding of the NAACP was to attempt to break down the
barriers of prejudice that were (and in some cases still are) present in
America's society, but I don't think that even parks will deny that the org.
 was a needed part of AMerican society.  Will Parks argue the results of the
organization (school desegregation....)?  By arguing for school desegregation
the NAACP has opened the door for all minorities (or "colored people"), not
blacks.  They have also enriched white people's education to more diversity.
This, by definition, does not make it a racist organization.  Again, there is
no restriction on membership by race, creed, color or religion!!!!!!



>
>>If any white people want to
>>join the NAACP they are more then welcome.
>
>What about anti-racists?

   Sure, "anti-racist" are open to join, even racist like you who would like to
 see the light.
>
>>  The United Negro College Fund gives money directly to the institutions.
>The
>>again, do not have a race test.  Anyone can attend Howard, Morgan and other
>>predominately black institutions if they so please.
>
>The schools engage in racial prejudice, by definition making them racist.
>For example, by gratuitously advertising themselves as historically black.

    How in the hell do the schools engage in racial prejudice?  By advertising
oneself as a historically Black instituiton does not preclude membership by
other minority populations.  If we lived in a society where being Black or
any other color than white was not punished economically (see salaries for
similar applicants who are black and who are white), physically (see Rodney
King), emotionally (watch TV sometime) for being a certain race, then a "safe"
collegiate atmosphere for Blacks would not be needed. But, unlike a myriad of
colleges, historically black institutions NEVER closed their ranks and not
allowed members of other races into their doors.  If Parks can say that there
is no racial prejudices on predominately white colleges and universities
towards Blacks, then the schools can stop advertising themselves as
historically black institutions.  Notice that the tag is "historically" black,
not "exclusively" black.  Quite a difference!  If parks wants to go to Howard
or Morgan, or Morehouse, then I am sure they would welcome him with open arms.
>
>>The money people give to
>>the UNCF goes straight into the school scholarship funds, which  are not
>>doled out in a race specific way.
>
>And the UNCF also gives out race-restricted scholarships to individuals.
>

   This is something that I refuted before.  Parks had claimed the same thing
above a few months back, I wrote the UNCF and got a nice letter back from
Mr. Gray, the head of the organization (as a contributor I get such courtesy).
Mr. Gray emphatically denies this and states that the UNCF gives money
to historically Black universities and their general scholarship funds.  Since
HBU do not discriminate against anyone in admissions, then there is no reason
to assert that race-restricted scholarships are given.  ANYONE WHO ATTENDS
THESE UNIVERSITIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MONEY, BE THEY OF ANY RACE, CREED OR
RELIGION!  I have asked Mr. Parks before to give reasons for his beliefs and
proof that race restricted scholarships are given.  10 months later, no
response!!!!  So that shows what Parks knows about this - NOTHING!
>
>>>The same way that slavery sat with the U.S. Constitution for 100 years
>>>(all men are created equal). Today's belief, "that's not racism...well,
>>>it's the good kind of racism", has been present throughout history.
>>>
>>>--
>>    So, whoever the writer of the above passage is, he is wrong. these
>organiz>ations are not racist, be it good or bad, anyone can join them and
>many
>non
>>black people chose to do so.  Please get your facts straight before you go
>and
>>call something racist which isnt't.
>
>They are by definition racist. Having members of all races does not
>make an organization non-racist just as having Jewish blood does not
>make Hitler not anti-semetic.

  You haven't given any proof how they are not racist.  And comparing Hitler's
anti-semetism to any type of racism that you even dream that the UNCF or the
NAACP is ludicrous and an absolutely horrible analogy!
   Kevin







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