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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #2 (REPOST)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:39:22 GMT

Week 2
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subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
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 WT  Away                       Home
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[  ] [ ] Atlanta		[ ] Washington       
[  ] [ ] Chicago		[ ] New Orleans      
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] NY Giants         
[  ] [ ] Green Bay		[ ] Tampa Bay      
[  ] [ ] Minnesota		[ ] Detroit        
[  ] [ ] LA Raiders		[ ] Cincinnati    
[  ] [ ] Seattle		[ ] Kansas City      
[  ] [ ] Buffalo		[ ] San Francisco    
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] Indianapolis     
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] Pittsburgh       
[  ] [ ] New England		[ ] LA Rams      
[  ] [ ] San Diego		[ ] Denver         
[  ] [ ] Philadelphia		[ ] Phoenix     
[  ] [ ] Miami			[ ] Cleveland          
                                
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From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Another Year, Predictions,  Embarrassments... :)
Keywords: Dallas - Wash...
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:24:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: skyblu.1992Sep4.152435.1
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

Alright... It is time for another year of my predictions of single games...

Last year I went 6-2...  So here we go:

		Dallas  28    The other team  27    :)

There you have it... You heard it here first... :)

Ali...
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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: success of colleges in producing pro players?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:53:25 GMT

I know that as of a few years ago(around 4) TAMU was tied with someone for
the 5th or 6th spot for the most in the NFL.  Since then they've had quite
a few good years and turned out some good talent.

I expect that there may be some surprises with the top 10.  I doubt TAMU
has moved into number 1, but they are probably still pretty high.  I believe
that in the list that I saw, I posted it about 1 year ago, Penn St was
number one.(The list came from the 1988 or 1989 Texas Aggie media guide.)

Maybe when things crank up a little bit and the current rosters come out
for the big boys, someone from each of the schools that are net.woofing
will post the current numbers.

I'd be willing to look it up for TAMU if someone can direct me to a nfl
football mag. that would have the info.

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: The Niners are the favorites.
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:21:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20220
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


 Yesterday, when i was watching the Redskins/Cowboys game, there
was all this hyp that the Cowboys are potential Super Bowl
Champion.

But any road to the SB will pass through Candle-Stick park, IMO
after witnessing the rout of the Gaints.

S.h
Go Vikes
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From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Instant Replay
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:20:29 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Sep8.233745.7182@lclark.edu> (Peter Greco) writes:
>
>Though it might be unfair to penalize a team for zebra mistakes, how else
>can the time factor be solved?

Charge twice as much for commerical air-time, and then cut the number of
commericals in half. Same TV $$$, shorter game.

Do you think Nike or Bud cares if they spend 1 or 2 million a game?
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Re: Bruce
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 01:33:27 GMT

In Article 28189, Tony Bechtold writes ...
>Both the Bills and 49ers have explosive offenses.  Hard to say which
>one is really better, they both posses extreme talent.
>However, the one major difference between the two teams is defense.
>The Bills defense stinks!  And the Niners do have defense!  I would
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>think that the Bills would be spending more time playing keep up if
>anything!  I see the 49ers winning, but not by much!

What a moron.
With Smith, Conlan and Bennet... the Bills punished the Rams.
3 sacks and 4 interceptions, 7 points.
If you look back a few years, the Bills had one of the top D's 
in the NFL... what changed... their offense. With their new offense
it cuts down on their defenses ability to be rated high, BIG DEAL.
I suppose you want to tell me how defense wins games, etc , etc 
well then your stupid. The Bills were in the Super Bowl last year
with a 27th ranked defense. Maybe defense does win games, but a 
high rank on a stupid rating system doen't, and either is it 
an indicator of what's really going on in Buffalo.

Last year your stupid team didn't even make the playoffs, while 
the Bills record was 15 - 4.


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins News - 9/8/92
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:00:00 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

In article <56030@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:

>>The Redskins lost because:
>> 2) Alvin Harper beat Darrell Green for a 26-yard touchdown pass with 1:02
>>    left in the first half;
>
>At the risk of being labelled a Cowboy basher, this was IMHO the key play
>of the game, and it was a pretty questionable no call by the ref. Ther's not
>a doubt in my mind that harper only got open by pushing off on Green
>and Dierdorf seemed to agree. It wasn't a blatant shove, but he definitely 
>could have (and I believe should have) been called for interference on the
>play.

Yes, I too think that it might have been on the high side of generous,
but the NFL has had a tendancy to let the offense get away with a lot
more than the D.  Defensive backs do so much hand checking (not a
penalty mind you) like in Bball that the refs give the offense a
little leeway back.... maybe too much in this case.  However, that was
certainly not the key play in the game any more than the missed ref
call on the INT (which was not mentioned in the article).  I can
understand the ref calling it an INT, he was shielded.... but how can
you say that he was not down by contact....????  That play gave the
Skins the only hope they had in the game... 1st and 10 inside the 30
is far different from being on the Cowboy's side of the field...

>One interesting thing I noticed in the game was that despite really outplaying
>the Skins, the Cowboys seemed to me to be a team that wasn't quite hitting
>on all cylinders. Thats a little scary to beat the Skins that easily and
>look(IMHO) like a team that is still a long way from peaking.
>

I agree.... <big grin>

>If I had one bone to pick with the Cowboys it would be that they seem to
>have a few problems internally. The fumble recovery by J. Jones in the first
>half was kind of funny, because he and teammated Gant were visibly fighting
>over the ball(risking losing it to the Skins) and then Gant was apparently
>yelling at Jones as they went to the sideline, and it didn't look like

Gant is naturally hyperactive.  I saw it as his normal out of control
attitude, and I saw it as congratulations.  I will go back and check
the tape, however.

>he was congratulating him. Later, after Clark burned Washington for a TD
>pass, Holt pointed at Washington and started yelling and shaking his head
>as if to say "your fault" . IMHO that should have been done on the sideline,
>not out in the middle of the field.
>
Yeah, I think Washington blew the coverage.  However, plays like that
are what will get Holt kicked off the team by the end of the year if
he doesn't shape up.... He is a whiner and a spoiled baby...

*ice*


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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Vegas says Cowboys -2.5
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:15:40 GMT

From article <5174@gold.gvg.tek.com>, by johna@psdcae1.gvg.tek.com (John Abt):
> After watching the Giants !perform against the 'niners, and
> the Cowboys handle the 'skins, I couldn't help but notice
> that Vegas has Dallas favored by 2 1/2 in this Sunday's 
> Cowboys/Dallas contest. 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The COWBOYS are taking on the city of DALLAS?  Who's the starting QB for
the DALLAS team?

> 
> C'mon.... this is free money. How the hell can I quit
> gambling with this kind of action available???
>
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49er's Seifert - DUMP COFER
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:28:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <holly.210@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com> holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise) writes:
>
>I've been saying this for 3 years.  Dump Cofer.  We won't get to Superbowl 
>with him there.  Think Seifert's on the net?
>-----
>holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com

Although I agree with you in part that Cofer should be replaced,
he did not lose the game vs the Bills.  Two high explosive
offenses battled it out and the Bills came out on top.

I am not about to offer any excuses for a TEAM I am NOT a member
of.  I am only a fan, just like the rest of you.  The saying that any
given team can be beaten on any given Sunday holds true.  Does
this make the Bills a better team than the Niners?  It did for
one game.  Only the next SB champion will answer that.  Therefore,
the Bills and the Niners, will have to battle it out with the
other contenders or pretenders to see what two teams will rise
to the top.  Anyone that will discount the Niners because they
lost one game, does not know anything about sports.
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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Two Great Plays (was Re: Cowboys 23, Redskins 10)
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:20:46 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

%>> By the way, the instant replay CONCLUSIVELY demonstrated that the ball
%>> WAS NOT INTERCEPTED by Darrell Green (obviously because DAN DIERDORF
%>> said so).              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

%> It was Martin Mayhew who did not intercept the ball.

% No, it was I who did not intercept the ball.

And it also was the 64,000 spectators in the Texas Stadium and millions 
of TV viewers including me who did not intercept the ball. :-)

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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Offensive Weapons (Re: Buffalo Bills vs. 49er's)
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:07:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.230613.10310@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
> Other
> then the Niners, who does have an offense with as many weapons if
> not more than Buffalo?

How 'bout the Eagles?  Randall is just beginning to shake the rust
off from missing the entire '91 season.  During the '90 season he
threw for well over 3,000-yards and 34 TDs throwing to Keith Byars,
Keith Jackson, and rookie wideouts Fred Barnett and Calving Williams.
Those rookies are now seasoned veterans with Fred Barnett becoming
one of the better WRs in the league.  Jackson is a holdout, but I
can't believe that he will miss the entire season.  And then there
is the addition of Herschel which brings a rushing attack.

The Eagles might not put up the offensive numbers that the Bills do,
but they have more of a ball controlled offense.  Besides, you aksed
about offensive weapons and I think the Eagles have just as many.


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: ppinta@cs-acad-lan.Lakeheadu.Ca (Pasi Pinta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Info wanted on the Cowboys pre-season
Summary: Info wanted on the Cowboys pre-season
Keywords: preseason
Date: 8 Sep 1992 18:12:32 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University


	Hello all you Cowboy fans out in the net, especially the loyal ones
who survived the droughts.  I was on vacation for most of the preseason and
as a result I'm not up to the minute on how "de boyz" fared.  I would be
thankful for any info sent to me.


Ps.  How about that Monday night game!!  Does anybody have final stats for
the game on the Cowboys?  Looks like Smith was on pace for a 2000+ yard
season!!!


Pasi Pinta
Thunder Bay, Ontario
Canada
ppinta@cs_acad_lan.lakeheadu.ca
From: dans@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dan Salazar)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:53:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Opening day odds
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro




Favorite       Points        Underdog
------------  --------   ------------
DENVER        by 3 1/2   L.A. Raiders
PHILADELPHIA  by 3 1/2    New Orleans
BUFFALO       by 11         L.A. Rams
CHICAGO       by 3 1/2        Detroit
ATLANTA       by 3          N.Y. Jets
HOUSTON       by 11        Pittsburgh
Minnesota     by 3 1/2      GREEN BAY
Cleveland     by 5 1/2   INDIANAPOLIS
San Francisco by 3 1/2    N.Y. GIANTS
Kansas City   by 2 1/2      SAN DIEGO
SEATTLE       by 4         Cincinnati
TAMPA BAY     by 2            Phoenix
Washington    by 2 1/2         DALLAS

**Home team in caps



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From: robert@landru.mtc.ti.com (Robert Treese)
Subject: WANTED: Tape of DAL/WASH
Organization: Manufacturing Technology Center, Texas Instruments, Dallas
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:38:39 GMT

I want a tape of last night's game.  Can any body help me?

Robert
robert@landru.mtc.ti.com
From: jeffyg@chester.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffrey Wayne Geist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dale Carter
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:51:55 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: chester.ksu.ksu.edu

Its apparent the KC Chiefs have made a good choice for their first round.
Dale has already won a game and impressed alot of fans.  His first quarter
punt return for a TD is just a precursor of things to come for the Chargers,
but we can expect more of those from Dale this year too.  
Eric Bienemy knows Dale real well.  Hey Eric.... you wave your arm in the air
to call a fair catch.... *crunch*  
Lets also remember his interception (tho he fumbled trying to be flashy, a 
rookie mistake).  It sealed the victory for the next Super Bowl champs.
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Isnt it a bute?

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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Date fer Chiefs and Cowboys!!!!!
Followup-To: reams@bnr.ca
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 22:10:38 GMT

In article <18lpoiINNmb@chester.ksu.ksu.edu>, jeffyg@chester.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffrey Wayne Geist) writes:
|> Here we have the two greatest teams in the league this year.  Im not sure which
|> week it is, but KC plays in Dallas.

Week 7, Game 6 - October 18, already sold out. (Lots of Dallas Texans fans
hanging around here. Also probably within reasonable driving distance. 
Dont some of the nearby Royals fans make the trip to Arlington periodically?)
 

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From: merrill@stsci.edu (Clark)
Subject: Re: Mat Millen
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:46:33 GMT

In article <5484@cvl.umd.edu>, kayuucee@cvl.umd.edu (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) writes:
> 
> 	1) Matt Millen retired.
> 	2) Matt did not "go wrong" for the Redskins. He was an important part
> of the Redskins defense up until the last few games of the season and during
> the playoffs. Unfortunately for Matt, he sat out during the playoffs and
> the SB because Washington faced Run-And-Shoot teams and Matt was a
> role-player used on rushing downs for the most part. I think most Redskins
> fans will remember Matt as giving his all for the team, even when he wasn't
> even suited up. I was at the Championship game against Denver and Matt was
                                                         ^^^^^^
> down on the sidelines in streetclothes (he was on the 2-man taxi squad) and
> he was pumped. He prowled the sidelines getting the other players as psyched
> as he was.

I know it may of seemed like a Denver super bowl, but they played the Bills.

I also am one of those people that do not think Matt Millen went wrong.  He
was brought in to play the run, so he was not needed in the playoffs.  I 
think he was a big contributer to the Redskins season.  He played most 1st
downs against teams with a running game.  He also played in 3rd and short
situations.  I think the biggest thing he brought to the Redskins was 
leadership.  He only played here one year, but I wish it were more!  

Clark B. Merrill                        A Life Long Redskins Fan!
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
merrill@stsci.edu
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rypien?  Is he the next Schroeder
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

Don't judge Rypien by the Dallas game; it was a game in which Rypien's
linemen couldn't provide adequate pass protection.  There was too much
confusion among the linemen due to crowd noises in a semi-domed
stadium.


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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Jets Favoured over The Steelers ??
Organization: Clark University
Date: 11 SEP 92 17:30:13 GMT


In a previous article, pichocki@nbrwh34.bnr.ca (Stephen Pichocki) wrote:
>I realize that Pitt has a battered secondary, and that one win against
>Houston does not make them a contender but, why are the the dogs when
>they are playing at home.
> 
>Am I missing something. Are the Jets that good??
> 
I was a bit surprised with that, too. But the Jets were one of the teams
chosen by alot of people to show a big improvement this season, so they 
may be getting favored from those expectations.

Last I checked they were only favored by 1, so that's pretty much a pick.
The Steelers have played well against them in the past few seasons. If 
I were the betting type I'd go with Pittsburgh!

Bart
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: olt@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott Olt)
Subject: Re: MNF Announcer Bashing ...
Organization: Madame Tinkertoy's House of Blue Lights
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:11:21 GMT

Bob Ashley writes:

>Nowadays, three in the booth is a bit extreme ... having Gifford shifted to
>player/team profiles for pregame/halftime reports would be a step in the
>right direction.

Three in the booth is nothing new...surely some of y'all remember Frank,
Howard, and Dandy Don sharing a booth waay back when, eh?

>Bob - just my thoughts, folks ... flames >/dev/null

Not a flame; just a blast from yer past.

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Status of Okoye and Browner?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:10:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.173950.9474@tellab5.tellabs.com> jcj@tellabs.com (JCJ) writes:
>Can somebody tell me what's going on with Christian Okoye (sp?)?  I
>didn't see any mention of him in the KC game summary from last Sunday.  
>Also, who picked up Joey Browner?  Thanks.

No news on Okoye, but Joey is here in Tampa Bay.  Currently he is holding
down the nickle role for Buccaneers as he did not go through our training
camp and, believe me, is NOT ready to play a full game in this climate. I
feel that it is very fortunate that he is here because 1) he is extremely
well versed in Floyd Peters' defense, and 2) with the loss of Safety Tony
Covington for the year,  I expect him to gain more  PT as the season pro-
gresses.
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