From: whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Subject: Re: Pennsic prices
Reply-To: whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.185939.23670@watson.ibm.com> mittle@watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman) writes:
>Greetings from Arval!  Hal wrote about a Western event:
>
>> The $25 paid for privies abouve what were permanent on the site--and
>> their regular service.  There is a shower building on site.  There is a
>> lake adjacent to the site--state owned, I think.  Off-site parking was
>> paid for--though not where it was intended to be. 
>> 
>> What more does one need?

Thanks for the list . . .

>For a very large event: Trash dumpsters and removal service.  

This was done, though the collection throughout the camp was done by
SCA volunteers.

>Medical
>supplies.  

Not specifically provided for for that event--but it wasn't a war,
either.

>Extra insurance.  

Normal SCA insurance sufficed (so far as I know).

>Clerical supplies for the troll booth,

Some supplies over normal--but not much.  The event wasn't
substantially larger than our normal events (peak attendence being
around an estimated 1100), so this shouldn't run the costs up.

>security, 

I can't think of any supplies needed by the Constabulary that wouldn't
noramlly be present.  More than usual numbers of batteries, but that's
about it.

>chirurgeon, 

I don't know of any requests for more-than-normal supplies.

>classes, 

Any classes were run informally, and (probably) out of the isntructors
pocket.

>heralds' point, 

Our heralds are normally well equipped, what supplies do you have in
mind?

>chatelaine.  

This was a fairly isolated site--not visible from local roads, for
instance.  The chatelaine probably needed *fewer* supplies than in a
normal 10-day period.

>Supplies for
>the battles & archery, including haybales, 

Archery targets were set up.  There weren't any large battles that
required hay bales, but for archery, those would be needed at any
normal event and shouldn't have added overhead.  Indeed--had this
event not happened the way it did, there might have been *two* events
needing target materials.

>boundary ropes, 

No more so than usual.  Additional field edging was probably borrowed
from one of the local principalities.

>archery targets,

See above.

>marshall's staves.  

Now this is interesting.  What *do* the rest of you do for marshall's
staves normally?  Duke Frederick routinely carries enough or nearly
enough for a typical kindgom tourney.  (Initially--4 fields.)  Lots of
marshall's have their own.  I used to carry 4, now three until I get a
couple of new ones finished (one of the old ones went on walkabout at
the last West-Caid War and hasn't returned).  So--there wasn't any
need to supply additional staves for Beltane.

>Transportation & other supplies for security.  

The only transportation needed was the shuttle between the site and
the off-site parking (about 7 miles--it's a long story).  That was
done by volunteers.  The West has the Constabulary as a Great Office
of State.  The only supply I can think of it needing would be
batteries for radio communications--and that would simply be a matter
of going to whoever had control of the money and handing in a receipt
(or asking for funds)--so this would have been covered.  It still
wouldn't about to much money.

>Perhaps some of our past Pennsic staffers can list more.

I think the basic difference may be that you're used to fairly large
feasts, and we're fairly used to large campouts.  Pennsic is big
enough to be in an entire class by itself--with it's own problems and
solutions.  We routinely have over 1000 people camping out for
weekends, and our 'capital equipment' reflects that pattern of
activity.  I can think of only *one* rental tent at the event--the
folks who flew down from Oertha (Alaska) rented on.

Possibly, you could expand on what sorts of supplies the various
departments needed/used that *aren't* normally used and why these are
more expensive (on a per capita basis) than for other events.

	--Hal

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