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From: stougheric@bvc.edu (The Wease)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Ultron's Last Stand
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:53:06 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <92104.084448U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
)  Hercules moves in, boasting about his prowess in combat
> and starts knocking the Reaper around.  Thor moves in on the side, telling
> Herc to shut the fuck up for once, and Herc turns his head, telling Thor to
> stick his head up his own ass.  At which  point, the Reaper impales Herc and
> drains his life force into himself.  Hercules shrieks as his soul is
> devoured, and the Reaper pumps one more pulse through him to make sure that
> this loud-mouth doesn't come back.  Incinerated, Herc  dies.  Thor smashes
> the Reaper a few times, but pulls back after getting a couple deep, but
> non-fatal wounds.  The other Avengers recover from the bellyflop in time to
> see the Reaper take off like a mo-fo, with Simon in hot pursuit.



	Oooooooh, I *LIKE* it!!  Especially where Herc gets torched...
he's always seemed like dead wait...absolutely NO character development
that I've seen...he's a pompous ass, but then again wouldn't YOU be
the same if you lived forever and had the strength to bench-press large
planets?!

	Only one problem with the "Death of Herc"...I thought Herc
was a true immortal...only being able to die in his own dimension of
Olympus...Hmmmm...kinda makes you wonder, don't it?!

	Wease
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From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MISC: Casting Coup
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:23:11 GMT

Rick Jones (albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu) writes:

>>I'd like to [see] Rick Jones as Rick Jones :)
>
>	It'd depend on who was playing Marlo.

Cuomo refuses to deny that he may not want the role.

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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: X-Force
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:38:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

	For those who hate x-force, the latest issue seems to suggest
that most of Liefeld's "plots" (if they qualify as that) are going to
be wrapped up fairly quickly.  They have gideon intending to kill sunspot.
They have strife unmasked in front of weapon x.  They explain all the
highlander/highlord garbage in detail.  I would guess that someone with
some brains made the right decision and is attempting to mop up liefelds
mess quickly.  They also brought back rictor I think.

	The details above were taken from skimming the book in the store.
they may/may not be 100% right.

	The other news I heard recently is that the long-dreaded Cable 
mini-series has been scaled back to two issues.

	Its still not very good by any means, but it is better than anything
Liefeld managed in the past year (which is not saying much).
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: PEOPLE: Jayembee retires from r.a.c.
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:38:12 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty) writes:

>An era has ended...

    You ain't lying. Jerry was one of the few people left from the days
of net.comicsm which was when I started following this group. I'll admit
to not being as vocal as others were over the years, but such is life.
It is still a pretty heavy loss IMHO.

--
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | 
 hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu   | "DON'T TOUCH IT!! It's the History Eraser
 Mac Database Developer     |  Button, you fool!"  -- Ren
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From: daikerjohnc@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Peter David to write Aquaman
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:42:14 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


In article <56603@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>
>>And in case it wasn't clear (since I don't generally resort to smileys and
>>such), no, my feelings weren't hurt.  The tone was meant to be tongue in
>>cheek.  Takes more than you got to hurt me, kiddos.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>PAD

>Oooh, sounds like the gauntlet has been flung down :-).  Any takers?

Oh, God, don't start the infamous PAD Flame Wars again!
Why won't you people grow up and quit with the put-downs?
Fun is fun, but enough's enough!

-JCD
From: ndj20710@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nathan D. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Season of Mists. What was Lucifer's game?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:17:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr13.221717.6449
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

afarrell@maths.tcd.ie (Andrew Farrell) writes:
>That's one way of looking at it, but I suspect that one of the points of this
>story was that the Creator arranged for Lucifer to Fall, and gave him one of 
>these all-powerful contract thingies. So Lucifer knew that the creator would 
>take hell back, and arrange another Fall. What Lucifer didn't know was that 
>Dream was unarrogant enough to accept this. And the self-accusatory melancholia 
>is only something that's happened since the Imprisonment. In particular, 
>Morpheus didn't feel any remorse over Orpheus, but quite a bit over Alex Burgess
>As you can probably tell, I'm a fan of the theory that Dream is getting more 
>human as time goes on.

>Andrew.
That is possible, but i think i wasn't as clear in what i meant about his
melancholia as i should have been. Dream feels no remorse about other people
doing stupid things and paying for it. that is why he was able to be so cold
to his son. I am not so sure that he never felt remorse, based on my impression
of _Thermidor_, but I am quite certain that he feels his pride much more
strongly, and since he told him he would never see him again, Dream feels he
must stand by this. 
However, if it is Dream that screws up then, he feels responsible. He is said
to take his duties VERY seriously, and it is implied that this is partially a
result of his not stopping a vortex long ago. With the choice of to whom the
key to Hell should go, he is put in a no-win situation, since there is no clear
right choice. Therefore, IMAO, Lucifer was stabbing the Dream Lord with his
own sense of honor. 
But, as Robert Plant once said, "I could be wrong."
From: nc313127@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: <None>
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:06:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

> 
> 
>  >I wish they would bring Kitty and Kurt back into the fold.
> 
> YES! Can you picture Gambit, Logan, and Kurt hitting the bars? 

X-Men(Party team)?


>>
>>Jon
>>
>>
> Rebis
>>
azure
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: Yes, Its Another Late Terman Reviews (Cerebus, Steed & Mrs. Peel)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:13:25 GMT

In <1992Mar31.042751.23722@Princeton.EDU> mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire) writes:
>Cerebus #156

One thing which no one has mentioned, from the letter's page -- I think Sim
implied that this particular storyline was going to go on until sometime in
November, 1994 or 1995, I forget which.  Did I read that right?

>Steed and Mrs Peel #3
>Writer: Grant Morrison
>Artist: Ian Gibson
>
>Writing: **1/2
>Artwork: **
>
>Grant Morrison certainly caught the goofiness of the original series
>though it lacked the surreal edge of the TV show. 

Oh, I don't know.  Focussing in on the bunny in the last panel of the story
tends to remind me of the show.  I agree with your general evaluation of the
series, though.

                           "The public is tired of
                            serial killers?  Now,
                            where'd you get that?"
                                                     "You can read it yourself
                                                      in the focus groups,
                                                      Jim.  Serial killers are
                                                      overexposed.  Our
                                                      audience is worried
                                                      about the economy.  They
                                                      don't want any more
                                                      serial killers."

                                           -- Michael Crichton's (impressively
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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Los Angeles Times, Leifeld, Malibu, and Youngblood
Summary: "The Cool factor"
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:23:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Today's Los Angeles Times (4/15) has a fairly large story on Liefeld and 
his Youngbloods comic. It talks a bit about Malibu and why Marvel talent
defected. Evidently Youngblood #1 already is a big seller, and it's not 
out until tomorrow. The article says that kids think Leifeld is "cool" 
and that's why they're buying his stuff.
-- 
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(note yuppy hyphenation)   | you want to turn away, but 
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jrs@netcom.com             | Happy, Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy, Joy!
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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,news.groups
Subject: Re: SPLIT: Proposed charter and poll
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:08:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Apr16.210837.23149
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <467@nsg.nsg.com.au> michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) writes:

>NOW is the time to discuss this - it makes sense to split rec.arts.comics.

>	rec.arts.comics.manga
>	rec.arts.comics.misc
>	rec.arts.comics.super-heroes
     rec.arts.comics.reviews

I agree. The momentum of the manga discussion would help get this rolling
as well. At the moment manga and super-heros are the only groups that
would be self supporting but over time it would be easy to spin additional
groups off of rec.arts.comics.misc. (and rec.arts.comics.super-heros.x-men
off of r.a.c.s ? :-)

>This would stop alot of the arguments that run "rec.arts.comics.manga"
>means that manga is less important than western comics by putting below
>comics. 

It is a stupid argument, but I agree, it might shut them up. The problem
is that this argument isn't very important to the r.a.m supporters, they
want their group thier way and really have no interest in being placed in
the proper place in the namespace.

-Thumper
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU  -  Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

	"I hate Vulcans!  I hate the logic!  I hate the arrogance!"
		-Sela
From: charyma@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Physics Man (was Re: Flash year 1 --- yawwwnnn)
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:02:52 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <11189@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.220746.17388@tandem.com> Montague_Kevin @Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:
>>PS: Wouldn't it be nice if someone took over this title that could actually
>>draw, and someone else wrote some stories about what would realistically 
>>happen if a man could run/move at incredible speeds?
> 
> 	Well, if you postulate that a person can run/move at the speeds
> demonstrated in Flash, and then postulate he lives in a world where 
> its fashionable for folks like him to dress in silly leotards and 
> fight crime, then Flash does a pretty good job.  
> 
> 	The supporting cast were all well rounded people, with lives
> and motivations more than just being potential hostages.  
> 
> 	The pseudo-science babble for how Wally can run so damn fast 
> was much better than in most comics (like Legion, where the laws 
> of physics are beaten senseless on a regular basis).
> 
I have finally thought of the ultimate villain for the comics:  Physics Man.
Physics Man's only power would be to enforce the laws of physics.  Collassal
Boy would collapse under his own weight.  Laural Gand would suffer time
dilation.  Spider Man would get blood cancer.  Superman would have to eat
a WHOLE lot or spend month at a time in close orbit around the sun.
Batman would be on a respirator.  Kitty Pride would be twenty three.
Powergirl would own a br..well, you get the point;-)


> 	Wally himself changed over Loebs' tenure, and developed naturally
> from the Mike Baron version.
> 
> 	For a super-hero comic, Loebs did a pretty good job, and Mark
> Waid is doing a good job with "Born to Run."
> -- 
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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: Rogue and Cyclops Questions
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:02:00 GMT

In article <92104.174919ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>     While I am on the subject of Bishop...he seems to have been a great
> leader in his future time. He is not "soft" on his enemies as the rest of the
> X-men are with the exception of Wolverine, Gambit, and perhaps Psylocke.
> Given Bishop's experience, maybe he should in time be the leader of the
> team since he does take the aggressive when he is in combat. Nonetheless
> he will still be an interesting character to follow...

That's as good a reason as any not to install him as leader.
I'm still looking for a reason he's built larger than a small truck,
but hey...

-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: DOLLMAN THE MOVIE?
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:41:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ra.bjm1.702718872
Organization: Mississippi State University

ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:


>The movie Dollman is a Science Fiction/Adventure flick about
>a cop from another world who chases a criminal to earth.

>Due to the mechanism of their travel (my guess) they are
>much smaller in size than the population of Earth.

>Lots of guns and shooting - closer to the Punisher than
>the Quality Hero Dollman owned by DC.  There is a set
>of comics based on the show but I do not remember
>the publisher (not Marvel or DC).

The publisher was Eternity/Malibu

Roland

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From: c60a-dy@amazon.Berkeley.EDU (Mikey likes it)
Subject: Can Spidey fight? (was Re: Over used lines)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 07:59:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.183014.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> comp138w142@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Scott) writes:
>> Anyone else got any Marvel lines that they're sick of hearing?
>
>
>All right, how about Dear old pete and his oft used "You can't hit me, I 
>have my Spider-Sense" True, he uses it less than he used to and he doesn't 
>allways say it the same way twice but it still bugs me.
>
[ other overused lines deleted ]

  This reminds me about a trend I was noticing with the Friendly neighborhood
web-slinger.  It seems that everytime he loses his trusty/handy-dandy spider
sense, he gets mopped up by the opposition.  This always tends to make me
lose faith, in whatever skills I had believed spidey to possess. I think
that maybe there should be a series where he loses his spider sense for a 
whole bunch of issues and has to learn some real defensive skills.  What do
you all think about this?

Mikel B.

>
>Scott.
>"You're a JERK... Dent... A complete Asshole."
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Killing Joke (help needed)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:33:46 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Apr 92 13:19:24 GMT, wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William R Thompson) said:

wthomps> In article <1992Apr08.231442.69690@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> you write:
>My friend recently gave me some of his comics and among them was a
>copy of Batman:The Killing Joke.  The problem is that I don't know
>how to tell if its a first printing or not.  It has red printing on
>the cover if that helps.

wthomps> It's definitely NOT a first printing -- the first printing
wthomps> was done in green.  As for the other printings, I don't know
wthomps> what printing has what color -- I don't have them.

It will say what printing it is on the inside cover like most
deluxe and hardcover books.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: morrow@fnala.fnal.gov (And the elmo Lies Down on Broadway)
Subject: SUPERMAN:  Old foe name question
Organization: I can't dance, either
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:47:25 GMT

	Does anyone recall the exact name of the GA Superman antagonist/con man/
WC Fields imitator?  As I recall, it was something like J. Wilbur Wolfingham,
but I'm sure that's not exact.
-- 
"After him!  After him!"
Ralph was going crazy.  "After who?" he cried, heedless of grammar.
--Donald E. Westlake

elmo (morrow@fnal.fnal.gov,morrow@physics.rice.edu)
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From: lintz@fred.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz)
Subject: Re: MISC: Abortion in Comics
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:04:07 GMT

In article <9APR199216480363@rigel.tamu.edu> a0v6282@rigel.tamu.edu (Art Velasquez) writes:

>     I believe that there was a set of issues of _Animal Man_ 
>(#28-29 or thereabouts) with a particularly nasty set of villains led by
>someone called the "Notional Man," a man made up entirely of aborted
>feutses.  At the end of #27, he bombed a packed discoteque trying to
>get Buddy, 

Now this is interesting. Was the author trying to draw a parallel
with certain extremist anti-choice groups, that do things like
firebomb a clinic in the middle of a city, or am I reading too
much into this. 


Brian Lintz
lintz@udel.edu
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From: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
Subject: Re: adamantium
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
	<1992Apr14.082721.6196@muddcs.claremont.edu>
	<1992Apr14.094810.24681@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:59:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.094810.24681@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator) writes:
   >They have also explained that by their time Adamantium isn't the hardest
   >substance made anymore. You may remember Vance getting shot through his
   >adamantium suit.(I still don't understand how they made a flexible suit
   >out of the stuff, but....)

	Actually, wasn't there a guy Wolvie fought in his own comic
with an adamantium *epidermis*? Ouch! =)

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From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: Cerebus thoughts
Reply-To: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:32:57 GMT

damiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dale J Miller) writes:
> It seems to be a general concensus that Cerebus, Cirin, and S. Po are the 
> three, but as I read it, there are four major belief systmes in the world.  
> Cerebus/Tarimite, Cirin/Terimite, Po/Illusionist, and then there is Astoria and
> Kevillism.  Does that place Astoria on par with the aardvarks?

	A quote from one of the dream issues in Church and State. (78
perhaps?) "Astoria is off changing the baby... She's trying to change it
into another aardvark." Hmm, you don't suppose this means that she's trying
to raise Kevillism up to the importance of the other religions? Very odd.

-Jeff
-- 
Jeff Hildebrand                                  jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu
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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: Billy Mumy (WAS Re: DC: Doom Patrol Annotations (long))
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:43:47 GMT

rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>>More Billy Mumy trivia: he wrote/sang a very strange song called "Fish
>>Heads", sometime in the early eighties (I think).

>  Even more Bill Mumy trivia: He's half of the comedy music group "Barnes and
>Barnes", which is where he did "Fish Heads" originally. B&B have also done a
>bunch of other stuff, including "Touch Yourself" (a bouncy number about...er,
>safe sex) and "Goodbye Old Friends" (a farewell to STAR TREK VI).

Yet *more* trivia:  the other half of Barnes & Barnes was Miguel Ferrer,
Albert Rosenfield of TWIN PEAKS.  

Didn't Ferrer also recive a writing credit for THE COMET MAN?
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