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From:         219 Judy Kendall 239-7203 <LW8SYE@IRISHMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: creating unlinked item records

We're hanging in there.  I sure would hate to be a totally
new person.  Any word on Engineering/Arch replacement???/
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:34:59 EST
From:         Peggy Yetter <YETTER@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      L60B abends resolved
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We re-assembled LPC160P and got rid of our abends.  Thanks, to all especially
Tim Prettyman.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:07:00 CDT
From:         Kevin Calmes <TMIS1692@VEGA.SELU.EDU>
Subject: CHAT-L Top 5 List

This is an informal survey.  Please submit your own "Top 5" list for...

The Top 5 Reasons why PL/I should be used as the primary language for NSI LMS.

 1. PL/I can read/write/manipulate ANY data structure.
 2. PL/I already exists on your system.   (That's $Y$TEM for you bean counters)
 3. PL/I can generate machine efficient optimized code.
 4. PL/I is easily ported to other systems.
 5. You don't have to be a Wizard or a Guru to write good PL/I code.
    (You can be a simple Sorcerer or maybe a Genie!)

Just curious,

Kevin

PS. The "UnNatural Enquirer" says that PL/I is C's REAL Father!

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:50:00 EST
From:         ST7@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: GTO OVERLAY PROBLEM

        OCLC #26214108 will not overlay because you have the
record for "Village life in northern India" (OCLC# 616282)
in your BIB file.  The 019 field in "Village" is 262141,
the same first six characters as your overlay problem.
Because the 019 filed has only six characters instead of the
usual eight characters; it is not processed correctly by the
Standard number index as 00262141 but as 262141.  Search
"fi no 262141" and you will see the short 019 sitting next
to your non-overlaying 26214108.
        If you edit the 019 field out of the "Village" record
or add the leading zeroes to the number in the 019 field,
26214108 will successfully overlay.
        Short 019 numbers even prevent overlay across processing
units.  This was reprted to NOTIS in Feb. 1992 and is PPQ5528.

Suzanne Thomas
Technical Specialist/Special Formats Cataloger
University of Pittsburgh
412-648-7791
STHOMAS@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:56:43 EST
From:         Alan Alexander-Manifold <ALANAM@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: mdas/opac question
Comments: cc: alanam@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

We changed our MDAS message from OPAC to PCAT.  I just edited the NSCFILE
with DITTO to change it.  I thought it might blow something else up to do
it that way, but it didn't.  It works fine.  In 5.1, you can give your
OPACs (notice the plural) any name up to 8 characters.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:11:08 EST
From:         KASPER@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU
Subject:      MDAS Sentence Option
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I just got off the phone with NOTIS to find that the Sentence Option
does not work (when turned on) as described in the manual.  When turned on,
the user is able to find occurences of words using the 'with' operator
that appear in the same sentence (sentence being terminated with a period).
Well, when NOTIS switched from BRS to NotisSearch they changed how the
sentence option functions.  Now, (MDAS 1.2.1/LMS 5.0.2/MVS) you can no
longer use the 'with' operator to search within sentences that appear
within the same NOTIS tag.  AHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was also told by NOTIS that this change was discussed with either the
MDAS or OPAC SIG and that the change was approved?  Is this true???
If so, I would be very interested in the reasons in back of this.
To me, it just doesnt make sense.  If someone could explain the change,
it would help alot.

-Stan Kasper
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:19:22 EDT
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From:         Steve Burton <S0BURT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CHAT-L: CoBOL vs. COBOL

Division, Tech Services
Phone: 588-6756
Say there Rustbelt! This is Steve in Kentucky. You know, I have a friend who
runs a Rennaissance festival hereabouts, and those boys from SCA (society for
creative anachronisms) are always there. Odd crew, that. But you gotta hear
a story they told me about them and a biker gang they mixed up with.
It seems that the SCA had just put on a long hot show in full REAL armor,
and after the show they decided to go for a few drinks. Without getting out
of their various armor, chain mail, swords, etc., they headed for a local
bar, not realizing it was a biker hangout. They got there, and of course the
bikers started in on them, poking fun at what the bikers thought was stage
armor, generally trying to start a fight. The bikers got rude, the SCA got
rude, and the bikers pulled out switchblades. Needless to say, a switchblade
is not going to do much good against full plate armor and a 3 foot sword, so
can you guess the outcome of this epic battle? No one in SCA was hurt, but
lots of bikers wound up in the hospital with very severe lacerations. Can
you say, OOPS? bad call? I kinda thought that was funny, anyway. COBOL? Pah
who needs it, C is here...
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:26:40 EDT
From:         Lee Radigan <LIBLJR@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      punctuation in keyword

In response to Ramona Madewell's comments about apostrophes and keyword
searching:  I just tried k=o'brien in our production region and had the
same result she described:  0 items found.  We are at 5.0.2.

Lee Radigan, LIB1            |
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:43:00 EST
From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CHAT-L: CoBOL vs. COBOL

>*This has been made possible by a grant from the SFTPOC, or is it SFTPoC?*
>*Anyway, it is 'Society For The Preservation of COBOL'.  8^)             *
**************************************************************************
>Dan Kirchner - (a very slowly recovering COBOLic)

I would suspect that your SftPoC card is in your wallet right next to
your membership card for the Society for Creative Anachronisms?
Why I have a COBOL compiler for an old CP/M Northstar Advantage
that might give your ol' heart fatal palpitations!

Rustbelt Bill
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:41:05 EDT
From:         timothy@ASA.UGL.LIB.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      Re: mdas/opac question
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              "timothy%ASA.UGL.LIB.UMICH.EDU@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU" at Aug 18,
              92 8:37 am

Whoops, please disregard my previous incorrect response.

Timothy Prettyman
Library Systems Office		313-764-0412
University of Michigan		INTERNET:  timothy_prettyman@um.cc.umich.edu
Ann Arbor, MI  48109-1185	BITNET:  USERLM5C@UMICHUM
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:01:12 CDT
From:         Adnan Aldabaja <AAA1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET>
Subject:      charge/discharge situation

One of our service units (called RC) has the following situation:
1) Calendar shows that service unit is closed from 08/12/92 to 08/30/92.
   Please note 08/12/92 is the start period date.
2) There is a Loan-Overdue policy (called RC2h) which is a two -hour
    loan policy:
    Minutes: 120    Due same day: Y
On Wednsday,(08/12/92), at 1:00 pm we tried to charge an item that uses
the two-hour loan policy to a staff member (ID expires: indef).  We
expected the due date and time to be 08/12/92 at 3:00 pm.  However, it
was:08/11/92 at 9:00 pm due date is earlier than today;Type different
due date __/__/__:___pm
Note that the same situation would work fine except on 08/12/92.
Also the service unit is open on 08/11/92 normal hours.
I changed the calendar so the service unit is open on 08/12/92 and the
situation worked just fine.  I appreciate any comment on this situation.
Thank you.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:51:01 -0500
From:         C-HEND@UMINN1.BITNET
Subject:      Charged items missing barcodes

 We converted from LMS version 4.6.1 to LMS 5.0.2 on June 13th.
 We are now finding that some charged items had barcodes deleted before
 June 13th and the items can not be discharged because we can not
 add a new barcode into the item record.  I think I remember reading
 something on NOTIS-L which indicated that a change could be made to
 lines of code which would allow you to edit a barcode for a charged out
 item.  As it stands now we can not add a barcode into the blank field
 and we can not enter a new barcode, because no additional field is being
 prompted.  I did a search on the SUINFO archive of NOTIS-L but could
 not retrieve the message I remember.  If anyone has a workaround or
 a code modification we could use (only until we get these item records
 discharged) we would appreciate your help.

 Connie Hendrick
 Asst. to the Director, University Libraries Automated System
 University of Minnesota Libraries
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:14:10 -0300
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From:         Stephen Davis <daviss@CUNIXF.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Circ. blocks for overdue recalls in 5.0.2?

Our library administration is eager to begin suspending circulation privileges
for patrons who have overdue recalls.  We'd very much like to be able to talk
to anyone who's implemented overdue recall blocks in 5.0.2.

With so many problems reported with overdue recall fines in 5.0.2, we're a
little hesitant to encourage this idea right now, but haven't been able to set
up an environment where we can adequately test this at the moment.

Thanks!

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Stephen Davis				email:  daviss@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
Ass't Director for Library Systems 	voice:  (212) 854-4744
219M Butler Library 	   		fax:    (212) 222-0331
Columbia University
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:43:26 EDT
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From:         Steve Burton <S0BURT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject: Chat-L: Urban legend?

Division, Tech Services
Phone: 588-6756
I love urban legends! And yes this could be one. Knowing the SCA folks like
I do, it is something they would make up. But on the other hand, it is also
something they would do. They really do have real plate armor, chain mail,
swords, etc. And I mean real. One guy has a set of stainless steel full plate
armor, and it is not legend. I have met him and talked with him on many
occasions. Like I said, a good friend runs the Rennaissance fest here and they
are always around. But since the story came from my Rennaissance running friend
and not directly from the SCA, there is no way to check the validity.
Nevertheless, it is a good story. Speaking of legends, I had a class in college
in which we talked about urban legends for about 4 weeks out of the semester!
Have fun, and did you hear the one about.....no it's true, I heard it from a
friend who has a friend who knows someone who...........
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:25:36 CDT
From:         Gary <GSTRAWN@NUACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: L60B ABENDS
              20 Aug 1992 16:07:12 EST from <YETTER@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU>

As I recall, we fixed the mystery "call number browse" abend problem
by reassembling the program.

Gary L. Strawn
Authorities Librarian, etc., Northwestern University Libraries
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From:         Steve Burton <S0BURT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      CHAT-L: CoBOL vs. COBOL

Division, Tech Services
Phone: 588-6756
COBOL? Most things are written in COBOL, but I personally feel it is a very
inefficient language. Too cumbersome, too wordy. But it does make it easy
to debug, so it does have it's plus side. I still prefer the newer language,
"C". Very powerful, very efficient. But a pain to debug. And still no sign
of the DWIM statement anywhere!!! C'mon Mr. Gates! (bill gates, owner of
microsoft) Give us a good language that has DWIM (do what I mean)..
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:16:00 CDT
From:         STEFFERJ@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: MEDLINE keyword index display - PROBLEM

I think this time the problem is probably in MSYS, for the fields and
labels displaying for MEDLINE.  Go there and check under the AUTHOR
label and see if it has the 100 field listed.  At one time NOTIS had
all authors mapped to the 700 field.  They changed the loader this
year (I think) and put the first author in the 100 field and the others
in the 700 field.  I had to change the fields displaying for author to
include the 100 field.
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Subject: RE: punctuation in keyword
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:21:47 GMT
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TO: NOTIS-L  MORENET   Users on MORENET

FROM: CRITCH   SHERRI    STAFF - Sherri Critchfield

DATE: AUGUST 18, 1992
SUBJECT: RE: punctuation in keyword

Ramona,

   I got the same results you did.  When I entered the search
"k=o'brien", I got NO ENTRIES FOUND.  However, when I entered
"k=obrien", I got 124 hits.  We're on 5.0.2.

Sherri Critchfield
Systems Analyst
Missouri Southern State Collge


 
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:52:52 LCL
From:         Bob Jones <BJONES@UNF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: KWB Truncation Puzzler
              17 Aug 1992 13:22:15 EST from <FWHITE@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA>

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:22:15 EST Frank White said:
>Any KWB wizards out there who can unravel this one?
>
>SEARCH STATEMENT                               RESULTS
>===================================================================
>1) k=theses and microfiche                     143 hits
>2) k=theses and microfi?                       222 hits
>3) k=theses and microf?                        235 hits
>4) k=theses and micro?                           2 hits
>
>Why only 2 hits for search # 4?
>
>
It hit the search limitations (100,000?) sooner, probably picking up
all the microbio? terms -- thus fewer matches.  It probably never
got to microf? before establishing that search set?
From: VB7R1001@SMUVM1.BITNET (Carolyn Kacena)
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Subject: charge/discharge situation
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:35:15 GMT
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Comments:     Originally-From: Adnan Aldabaja <AAA1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET>

All hourly loans require overrides when service unit is closed.  Will
default back to last open day.  We discovered this in production when
one of our branches opened with no notice to NOTIS ... lots of overrides
that day.


Carolyn Kacena
Director, Academic Support Automation
Fondren Library East 328
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275-0135

(214) 692-3229             FAX: (214) 360-0609 or (214) 692-4138
Bitnet:   VB7R1001@SMUVM1
Internet: VB7R1001@vm.cis.smu.edu.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
One of our service units (called RC) has the following situation:
1) Calendar shows that service unit is closed from 08/12/92 to 08/30/92.
   Please note 08/12/92 is the start period date.
2) There is a Loan-Overdue policy (called RC2h) which is a two -hour
    loan policy:
    Minutes: 120    Due same day: Y
On Wednsday,(08/12/92), at 1:00 pm we tried to charge an item that uses
the two-hour loan policy to a staff member (ID expires: indef).  We
expected the due date and time to be 08/12/92 at 3:00 pm.  However, it
was:08/11/92 at 9:00 pm due date is earlier than today;Type different
due date __/__/__:___pm
Note that the same situation would work fine except on 08/12/92.
Also the service unit is open on 08/11/92 normal hours.
I changed the calendar so the service unit is open on 08/12/92 and the
situation worked just fine.  I appreciate any comment on this situation.
Thank you.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:21:22 CDT
From:         "Anne L. Highsmith (409-845-8111)" <K026AH@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Item number limit

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:41:00 EDT Darren.Meahl said:
>Can someone please refresh my memory?  Is there a limit to the number of item
>records that can be linked (and displayed and charged, etc.) to one copy
>holdings record?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Darren Meahl
>LIB1
>Michigan State University Libraries
>East Lansing, MI  48824-1048
>(517) 353-6752

The theoretical limit for linked item records is 65,535. But we recently
discovered that there is an effective limit of 2700, imposed by the
program which creates the summary display. That limit is coded into
the program. We have one record which has over 5,000 linked items
(U.S. patents) and when we try to display a summary screen for the
copy, it causes a storage violation and system crash.

Anne Highsmith
NOTIS Coordinator
Texas A&M U.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:08:00 EDT
From:         Carol Caro / Boston College <CAROC@BCVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Global renewal

Good grief...you mean global renewal is still not a MUST in the circ rewite
or what ever it is called.  Anne H's suggestion to consider global renewal
alerted me that this issue may have gotten lost.  "Global Renewal or DIE!"
Carol

Carol Caro
O'Neill Library            VOICE: 617-552-3155
Boston College             EMAIL: CAROC@BCVMS
Chestnut Hill, MA 02167    FAX: 617-552-8828
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:58:25 EDT
From:         Irene Pelak <pelak@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
Subject:      Bergen's Notice Problem Solved

Our problem with "randomly" repeating notices turned out to be a combination
of two JCL problems.  The first problem was that the LB010030 sort parameters
were incorrectly distributed in 5.0.1.  The second problem was an incorrect
block size in the LB610070 sort.  That is one for which we have to take
responsibility.  While no one here remembers changing it, the block size we
were using was not the one istributein 5.0.1.  We would like to pubpublicly
thank the people at NOTIS for helping us through this one.  (I hope this
message is grammatically correct.  The recent chat-l has made me very cautious
about the messages I send.)
IRENE PELAK  TECH1  BERGEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE  201-447-9236
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