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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 2930

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2930

                        Thursday, September 03, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                         Re: GREY MARE CONGRATS....
                           SPORTS INFORMATION.....
                              General Interest
                             Chest/Rib Cage Pain
                               Tens units, etc
                             Chest/Rib Cage Pain
                               Who is SHHH for
                               On Signing....
                                 I am new...
                      Want to meet and make new friends


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Subject: Re: GREY MARE CONGRATS....
From: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX


[This is from the Amputee Conference]

In a message to Sheila Fava <08-27-92 10:20> Shari Messner wrote:

SM> SF> Thanks for the Congrats, Shari.  The 'Grey Mare Yank' is
SM> SF> keepin' on keepin' on......

SM> That's the ole spirit.

    There is an important meet comming up in October; it is a TAB World Cup
    Games held in St. George, Utah.  For the last three years I have competed
    there.  At first it was a 'Statement'....."If I can do it, there must be
    other disABLED -potential- athletes out there who can also participate in
    these Games."  Sure enough, last year there were two other disABLED
    athletes there:  A Canadian amp and a post-polio person.  This meet is ad-
    vertised world-wide and upward to 3,000 athletes make the trek to Utah.
    The sponsors never expected any disABLED athletes and had not made
    arrangements for special rooms, diets or athletic rules.  WHEEee!  They
    have -now-......

                    ---Sheila

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Subject: SPORTS INFORMATION.....
From: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX


[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

    Here, Andreas, are two addresses for nifty sports equipment:

    Sportaid                         disABLED Outdoors Magazine
    2462 Centerville/Rosebud Rd.     Attention:  John Kopchik, Jr.
    Loganville, GA  30249            5223 S. Lorel Avenur
    Phone:  1-800-743-7203
    Inside GA: 404-979-7203          Phone:  (312)284-2206

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    You will find the motorized bobber in Sportaid catalog and lots
    of good information and other catalog information in _disABLED_
    _Outdoors_Magazine_.  There are other  catalogs featuring other
    outdoor sports.  Just ask.....

                     ---Sheila

                    *** HOST(ess) ABLED-Athlete Conference ***

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Subject: General Interest
From: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org (Kathleen Mcintosh)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:264/181 - Les's Corner BBS, Richmond VA


[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 [SS] MSC is a single-entity drug with no acetaminophen.

This sounds like good stuff.  I take ibuprofen during the day, and
sometimes need something stronger in the evening.  I definitely
don't want to take something with acetaminophen in it if I can help
it.  All I have now are Tylenol 3's, so sometimes I take those.  Do
you know what the clearance rate is for ibuprofen?  I'd like to know
how long I have to wait after taking 200 mgs before I can take the
codeine.

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Subject: Chest/Rib Cage Pain
From: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org (Kathleen Mcintosh)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:264/181 - Les's Corner BBS, Richmond VA


[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

 [BD]
 [BD] Nearly 3 years ago I began having upper chest pains that
 [BD] shot across the top of my rib cage.  It made me nervous
Bob, I also have chest pains due to stress.  I think smoking a lot
makes the problem worse.  Have you tried any relaxation techniques?
I reccomend the book "The Relaxation Response" by somebody Benson.
I saw it recently at a Dalton's Bookstore.  They also had audio
tapes to guide one through relaxation.  If you can afford it,
biofeedback is really excellent.  It was the best thing I did to
controll my stress.  Good luck.
                                Kathleen

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Subject: Tens units, etc
From: Mark.Munson@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Munson)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV


[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

BO>Mark
BO>I was trying to gether some info on how long the pads seem to last. I
BO>wear in tens unit 16 hours a day. The pad are worn on my lower
BO>back. The last about 6-7 days. I found that if I use a Cleans
BO>towelet (alcohol) that will last almost twice as long. My
BO>problem is that the adheasive no long work well in the pads drop off.

BO>MM|  * SLMR 2.1a * Its not like a jock strap, its science!

Sorry, wasn't my tagline.. just forgot to change it when I replied to
your message.

OK, Notes... alcohol pads clean the rubber pad and remove conductors and
excessive oil from skin (non-conductors, in comparison).. thus all you
are really doing is cleaning them. GOOD.  When you where a stimulator
that much, you body is going to excrete oils between the conductor
(slymy stuff), and the skin..  This in my opinion is why you are loosing
conductivity over a period of time.. Otherwise and answer to one of you
main questions.. "how long do they last?" They should last longer than
you or me will live..

Mark

 * SLMR 2.1a * Bob Officer!?

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Subject: Chest/Rib Cage Pain
From: Mike.Fuller@f311.n387.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Fuller)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:387/311


[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

* Replying to a message originally to Bob Donovan on 08-28-92

Hello Kathleen... (sorry to barge in)

KM>  [BD] Nearly 3 years ago I began having upper chest pains that
KM>  [BD] shot across the top of my rib cage.  It made me nervous

I'm a 23 year old non-smoker who at the age of 21 went to the
hospital with a heartbeat of 180 that lasted 4 hours and was
accompanied by chest pain, shortness of breath, and tiredness. I
thought I was having a heart attack, but there is no history of
heart disease in my family that I'm aware of... come to find out,
Caffeine is responsible. I seem to have a condition known as WPW
syndrome in which the Heart muscle reacts quite negatively to
Caffeine... ever since then I have strongly recommended to anyone
having chest pain that they immediately swear off the coffee, tea,
and caffeinated sodas...

Just thought the input might spark some interest <grin>.

Take care,

Mike

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Subject: Who is SHHH for
From: Karen.Keil@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/71 - Seattle Hearing Imp, Seattle WA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 JR> Also, SHHH includes members who are audiologists, counselors
 JR> who work with deaf/hoh, etc., friends/relatives of deaf/hoh.

 AS> Yes, this is true - SHHH has many members that are professionals
 AS> but I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to get across.
 AS> There seems to be a misunderstanding about SHHH - many of the
 AS> Deaf are of the opinion that SHHH is only for hard of hearing
 AS> persons which is not true.

I also had the impression that SHHH was for hard-of-hearing people
and late-deafened adults only -- not for people with
severe/profound hearing losses like me who were born that way or
lost it very early in life.

So for some years, I just ignored SHHH and didn't write for
information.  Seeing a SHHH Journal at my audiologist's office and
reading information about SHHH on this echo changed my mind.

Perhaps the name should be changed to 'Self Help for Hard of
Hearing and Deaf People, Inc.' but that would spoil the interesting
combination of the abreviation SHHH----it would be SHHHD!

Just my two cents....

Karen

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Subject: On Signing....
From: Karen.Keil@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/71 - Seattle Hearing Imp, Seattle WA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 AS> other states.  Somewhere, English has to become the primary language
 AS> so that deaf children can become proficient at reading and writing
 AS> English.  It is really needed when they become grown and go out
 AS> to live independent lives.  Let's face it, the hearing world
 AS> is NOT going to learn ASL, sure there will be a few but the
 AS> overall general consensus is not going to do it.

Agreed wholeheartedly!

We cannot expect the hearing world to bend backwards to learn
ASL---only a minority ever will.  There is just not enough
incentive for all hearing people to learn it.

I'm reading the book, THE MASK OF BENEVOLENCE:  DISABLING THE DEAF
COMMUNITY, by Harlan Lane, and sections of it makes me think.

It's interesting that there's a Deaf Culture, but there seems to be
no Blind Culture---at least not in the same way.  Regardless of
what the Deaf Community thinks, deafness is definitely a handicap
that can be potentially dangerous.  Hearing is a sense that's
necessary for our safety as well as for communication.  For
example, the rattling of a poisonous rattlesnake is a danger signal
that's a slight sound, not a loud, vibrating sound.  I've had
people pull me aside very roughly to avoid dangers that I could not
hear.

Sorry for the digression---I was thinking of the Deaf Community
saying that deafness did not mean they were 'incomplete'
individuals.

Anyway, it seems that deafness strikes at the heart of
communication in a deeper and more devastating way than blindness
ever does.  Blind people are still in touch with the hearing
world--they just miss the visual part.  On the other hand, visual
cues are just not enough for deaf people to be in touch with the
hearing world--  hearing seems to be more vital for communication
with the hearing world.

In short, blind people miss less than deaf people for communication
with the hearing world.

Karen

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Subject: I am new...
From: Becky.Goldberg@f220.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Becky Goldberg)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/220 - Exit 47, LeRoy NY


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hello everyone!! For a month, I have been reading Silenttalk and I think
it is neat and educational way.

I am profoundly deaf and Gallaudet alumni. I have two sisters who are
hard of hearing (who prefers to say deaf.) and profoundly deaf. We are
born deaf, and we don't know how it happened since in our family of my
mother'side lose their hearing in later age. Three of us in same family.

I like to know the average of hearing and hearing impaired on bbs
becuase from what I read, some (I say higher percentage) wants to
learn sign language. I am curious, that is all.

I am thinking of going back to school to earn MBA or MA in whatever
field is it. Anyone out there, who is working with deaf people or
handicapped people, tell me what job do bbs users work and what
requirements need for any jobs as of vocational rehab, teacher,
counselor, and others that I can't think of??  I majored in accounting
and in past two years I am not getting anywhere in that field so I am
considering other field if I dont find acctg job within a year. Any
ideas?  I love children.

I may have missed messages among in the confernece since I was away on
vacation and been waiting for my sweetheart to get off his computer so I
can use it!! Now he is out this morning so I am using this time!!!

You are welcome to reply!!
Becky Goldberg

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Subject: Want to meet and make new friends
From: Pepsi@f37.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Pepsi)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/37 - Deafy's First Post , Stony Plain Alta


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi My name is Pepsi, I am pure bred  Shetland Sheepdog and  I am  a
Hearing Ear  Dog. I work for my masters Peter and  Marie Haskins.
They are deaf.

My duties are to let  them know when someone at the  door, or
when the phones ringing,I  can do many errands  like when My
masters have grandchildren dropped over, I keep eye on them  ,   If
Marie need Peter, She will get meto go outside and find Peter and
bring  him here, He always work work work work outside  ..If Peter
need Marie he  get me to get Marie. If  the   Microwave goes off I
tell Marie that it is  ready. When they are  ready for bed. I  tell
Marie or Peter that  I  need to go outside to relieve myself, I
always  sleep near Peter because when the alarm clock go offI wake
Peter at 5.30 AM every day. If Michael, Michelle,Marlene, Mildred,
Jeri, Doni , Glen, Barbara or Sandra( their grandchildren) are
staying  for a few days, It is my job to make sure that they dont
play in bed and  make  sure they are asleep, Sometimes when they
cried, I  go get Marie and wake her up and she follows me to the
one that needs  attention.

One of my best favorites I do love taking  long walks with Peter. I
must walk at his left side. And also I love to  go for rides  in
the Van or in Station Wagon or in Pick Up  . And the best of all I
love the best is that I  love watching my Master Peterhaving alot
of hassles with  the Restaurant Managers, or with  Motel Operators,
or a Nurse in the hospital or any Public Places.. Peter never lost
and  because I know he loves  me  more than  anyone ..

Now  I would like to  meet any of  you and we swap stories, How you
work for  your deaf masters and any  thing  that sounds exciting..
I also want to know if your masters are good to you  and any
girlfriends or boyfriends!

I am very handsome, three years old, have tri-coloured coat, Marie
or Peter love to brush  my coat everyday andI love that one. I am
a Male  but cannot give puppies  sorry because The Hearing Ear  Dog
of Canada took me to my Vet which I hate the shots etc  and did a
small operation so I cannot give  puppies to all my girlfriends!.
When Peter or Marie take me to the Vet, They always  tell  me the
shots are very good for my health but I dont think so!Ha ha

Dont tell your masters that you found  a new handsome boyfriend or
they would tell Peter and Peter will lock up thecomputer...
SSSSHHHHH ok!

How about giving me a  call!!

Love

Pepsi...

are ready

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