From: gpivar@maestro.mitre.org (Greg Pivarnik)
Subject: Re: Enlightenment (was Re: about absolute truth; Krishnamurti)
Reply-To: gpivar@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:53:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.150747.7260@panix.com>, moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) writes:
|> Greg writes in response to my saying:
|> 
|>  "Why don't you go sell water by the riverside!  Ha!"
|> 
|> >I think Marc has a valid point, so lighten up (figuratively speaking).
|> >The one great thing about us as humans is free will or freedom of
|> >choice. If somebody has a difference of opinion, fine, it is their opinion.
|> >You have the choice to agree or disagree or totally ignore. 
|> >IMHO!!! your particular brand of religion and philosophy seems
|> >quite limiting to me. It does not mean it is wrong or right, it just has no
|> >significance to me. My point is that if somebody does not see the 
|> >world through your eyes that does not necessarily mean you should flame
|> >them. Little comments like the one above can be damaging. I've read your
|> >posts in the past and like alot of what I read, you seem to talk alot about 
|> >respect for things, love, etc. Well, practice what you preech. Your 
|> >comment was not directed to me but I feel the pain of your negativity. 
|> >We are all connected, your joy is felt, your pain is felt. There is enough
|> >unrest in this world already...lets not add to it. In the words of 
|> >The Frugal Gourmet, "I bid you peace!" 
|> 
|> I think you misunderstood the allusion.  It was not a flame.  Selling
|> water by the riverside is a Buddhist saying for what a teacher does.
|> Just as water is ever present along the river, so is the Buddha-mind
|> ever present, even if one is blind to it.  The Buddhist teacher simply
|> tries to make you aware of what is ever present, your Buddha nature.
|> I'm sure that Marc understood this.
|> 
|> I believe Marc and I are having a very exciting, very positive
|> discussion.  Please join us if you care to.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Len Moskowitz
|> moskowit@panix.com


OPEN MOUTH...INSERT FOOT...Yuck, ignorance does not taste very 
good.

Len,
Sorry about that. I was talking to a friend shortly after I had posted that
and He clued me in on the meaning of the statement.  I should take my 
own .sig's advice. The problem I am experiencing here is a lack of 
background knowledge in the different religions and philosophies.

In my own terms I can relate to most if not all the experiences shared on
this Net. I have the benefit/misfortune (a matter of interpretation) of 
not being conditioned in any particular religion or philosophy. I would 
consider myself to be a lump of spiritual clay which is slowly being molded,
but hopefully never fired, I do not wish to become static,I like being
pliable.
One valuable lesson has come out of my misunderstanding of your post.
I (and We, meaning Everyone) need to become a little more vulnerable(sp?). 
I lashed out at you for absolutely no valid reason...You did not harm ME,
my Ego may have suffered a few bruises but I am virtually uneffected.
All and all, it was only a transaction of words, and words have a funny 
way of being misinterpreted. No harm meant, I was only trying to say that 
We all need to be a little more sympathetic to other peoples beliefs and 
feelings. Again I appologize.

-- 
Greg 

--  Be still, be silent...the rest is easy.  --