HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Me
Subject: New R.E.M. Album info
Organization: none, whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:06:05 GMT

The following is reprinted from the September issue of ICE CD Newsletter,
available at most worthwhile music stores.  It's one of the best sources of
music information I've ever seen.  Check it out!

"R.E.M.'s eighth album, <Automatic For The People>, "will divorce 				R.E.M.
from a lot of their teeny-bopper fans," according to one source who has heard
the record.  "Moody," "mellow," "quiet" and "startling" are just some of the
words being used to describe the mostly acoustic based album, which should be
in stores October 6."

The article goes on to give track listings and other info, and concludes with
the following:

"The bad news for fans is that, once again, it looks like R.E.M. is electing
not to tour to support the new release, a trend started with their last album. 
A promotional tour and a few "one-off" performances are much more likely."

The article also mentions that former Led Zeppelin bassist John Paul Jones
wrote string arrangements for four of the tracks.

If you want more info, pick up ICE Newsletter at your local record store.


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Subject: Talk Talk R.I.P.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:14:03 GMT

Inquiring minds want to know:

1.  Who (i.e. Talk Talk or EMI) won their court case dealing with the release of _History Revisited_?  Or is it still being slugged out?

2.  Apparently Paul Webb and Lee Harris are looking for a new vocalist.  What
has happened to Mark Hollis?  What is he up to?

3.  Are there any Talk Talk fanzines, merchandise (T-shirts, posters, etc.)
out there?

4.  Does Talk Talk fit under "alternative music?"  Probably now they do, but
it's difficult to get info on them on this net.

5.  Finally, on a completely irrelevant note, does someone know the lyrics to
Elvis Costello's "The Other Side of Summer?"

Christina O'Sullivan
cosulliv@sfu.ca
From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Curve discography
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:35:34 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

>This is their output on vinyl as far as I know.  Don't know if this
>jibes with their cd catalogue:
>
>Blindfold (e.p.) - 1991 - Anxious anx t 27 (black vinyl or picture disc)
>Frozen (e.p.) - 1991 - Anxious anx t 30
>Cherry (e.p.) - 1991 - Anxious anx t 35
>Doppelganger (l.p.) - 1992 - Anxious anxlp 77 (w/ poster)
>Fait Accompli (e.p.) - 1992 - Anxious anx t 36
>Horror Head (e.p.) - 1992 - Anxious anx t 38 (w/ poster)
>
>Anthing else?
>
I had a 7" of "Clipped" b/w/ "Galaxy" from 1991 on Anxious UK, but I
traded it to Liz Clayton* so I can't tell you anything more about it just
now. Speaking of Liz, she told me some time ago she was working on a full
Curve discography. Howzit goin, Liz?

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From: young@ursa.UUCP (Eric Youngblood)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: CBGBs
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:46:29 GMT
Organization: wouldn't you like to know...
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

altshule@skid.ps.uci.edu (Eric Altshuler) writes:
: Maybe I'm a bonehead, but what does CBGB stand for (if anything)?

You're not a bonehead, it's an old name :
Country, BlueGrass, Blues...
...from before the time the club became a rock/punk
mecca.


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cramer@vivaldi.psu.edu (Michael R. Cramer)
Subject: Re: Lush
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 02:00:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.215527.22487@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>  Whenever I have seen reviews about Lollapalooza people always seem to say
>Lush was okay, or 'yawn'.  WEll I was wondering if there are any lush fans
>out there who have an opinion on how their part of the show went.  I have heard
>that they are horrible live and was wondering if there's any truth in it.
>On a recording...they are simply wonderful (at least to me they are).
>
>Gil "Digital Druid" cyberpun(k)

I saw them at Montage Mountian, PA just last week and they were VERY GOOD! 
I had heard the same thing and was therefore sceptical. Everyone I talked to,
even those who don't particularly like Lush said they were cool live. Just
goes to show you...critics can be wrong...

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gc14@ellis.uchicago.edu (Grace Putao Chang)
Subject: What is alternative?
Reply-To: gc14@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:20:43 GMT


Hi there everyone!  I suppose that my subject says it all, so what exactly
is "alternative" music.  If someone could please distinguish between
alternative, industrial, new wave, new age I'd really appreciate it.
PLEASE no flames, I'm really just asking, and do not mean to offend, I'd 
just like to hear the opinions of some afficianados...
I will be reading this newsgroup for a while in the hopes of some responses,
and I can be reached for email at:
				  gc14@ellis.uchicago.edu
Thanks in advance!

					Grace

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Flying Nun bands
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:42:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.044540.19108@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:

|> 
|> On the home front on Saturday attended the show at Ali Baba's where SMUT
|> and Fatal Jelly Space played, a great show. 
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> Red
|> 

Ah,.. Let's not forget Fatal Jelly Space,....

Something different this way comes...

The Hole EP : Fabulous!..

Mark.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Another State of Mind
Keywords: Minor Threat, Youth Brigade
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:30:49 GMT

In article <la036cINNpg3@aludra.usc.edu> aumentad@aludra.usc.edu (I never get mail) writes:
>
>hey does anyone have a copy of "Another State of Mind"?  It's that documentary with Youth Brigade and MInor Threat from way back when and I.....neeeeeeed.....a......copy.....reeeeal.......baaaaad..

*-------*

I have a copy of this video.  There is also a record shop near where I
live (where I bought it) and they have another copy for sale.  This
leads me to believe that it's still in print.

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From: vail@tegra.COM (Johnathan Vail)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: More   =SEBADOH=
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:32:41 GMT
Organization: Tegra, Inc., Billerica, MA


Thanks to Joshua Houk, Steve Folta and Steve Saunders for their
Sebadoh information.  I went to Newbies last night and picked up what
I could find.  I still can't find the single that I keep hearing on
the radio.  Of course I haven't been in to Beantown to really look...

Is there an official discography?  For the completist-collector I
might add the Leaky Chipmunks track on the "Fortune Cookie Prize"
album.  This is a collaboration of Lou and Trish from the (now
defunct?)  Fertile Virgin and several others according to the credits.


[- "Fortune Cookie Prize" compilation CD on Simple Machines.  This is a tribute
  album to Beat Happening and V.G. covers "Tales of Brave Aphrodite".]



"Don't Ever Antagonize The Horn"
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From: clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: David Byrne
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:38:58 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

David Byrne is now on tour.  His last album, UH-OH, is fabulous.  It's less latin than the previous album, Rei Momo, but the influence is still there.  Rei Momo was purely latin and Brazilian.  I thought it was a tremendous feat. While I don't think that Rei Momo could have been done by Talking Heads, UH-OH could have been.  The drummer (set) on UH-OH, though is more explosive and tighter than Head Chris Frantz and that adds more excitement of the album.  The drummer interacts better with the other percuss


Cuban and Brazilian complilations come from. Of course, there's more but I digress.  My point, which I may have not stated, is that Byrne has been doing outside projects since 1980 way before he decided to go latin (he was an afficionado, though).  Hey, Chris and Tina have Tom Tom Club and Jerry Harrison has (possibly had) his solo run (Casual Gods).  But this is the first album in a long time that he possibly could have done with Talking Heads.  He didn't.  I don't mind (I absolutely love) Byrne's solo st


Check out Uh-Oh, and listen to master "hybridizer" David Byrne do his stuff. 
One more note and I'm gone:
Rei Momo was pure-no rock backbeats.  He did do hybrids, though.  Not with completely different musical styles (i.e. The Cowboy Mambo from Uh-Oh) but different latin rythms.  He did layer different latin rythms/styles on top of others on a few songs.  He had to experiment?! and it does work.

Oh yeah... A Talking Heads Anthology will come out later this year or the beginning of next year:  Sand in the Vaseline: Popular Favorites 1976-1991.
It will contain 5 new songs all ready recorded.  
The indefinite break up the Heads will end in a couple of years or so.  
I believe they are still under contract to do 4 more albums for Warner Bros.  
See Byrne in Concert.............
From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Matt Marchese)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:07:02 GMT
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg

In article <4eb1NCu00WBNE7mmQS@andrew.cmu.edu> Eugene Kuo <ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>>I really like the Ramones, and that's why I like
>>>>to know if there are any other groups that play
>>>>the same kind of music (I think it's called punk
>>>>rock) and are (almost) as good as the Ramones.
>
>Although the only Ramones album I've heard is RAMONES MANIA, I think
>that some of their songs sound a lot like early Kinks.  Anyone else?
>
I *think* they've covered a couple of Kinks' tunes. "So Tired" sticks in 
my mind...

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From: C_S02175@APPSTATE.EDU (C_S2450101)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: depeche mode!!
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:46:45 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Hey what is the deal with depeche mode....last I heard they were in spain
recording a new album, but that was about April when I got that info.  Any
one know any new developments???  Also anyone that knows how to get on the
Mode mailing list please Email it to me (C_S02175@conrad.appstate.edu) or
post it for others...

				Later.........steve
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From: mwise@acs.bu.edu (Matthew Wise)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Question about Swans
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:09:41 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Aug29.145425.6308@zooid.guild.org> ecurrent@zooid.guild.org (Greg Clow) writes:

>SWANS live releases:
>
>There are three live Swans discs available, but I don't remember the
>names offhand.  One has something to do with money and was recorded
>during the GREED/HOLY MONEY tour.  One is called something like FEEL
>GOOD NOW and was recorded during the CHILDREN OF GOD tour.  And one is
>called PUBLIC CASTRATION IS A GOOD IDEA (this is the only one I'm sure
>of), but I'm not sure of the "era" of this recording.

There's one from the "Burning World" tour called ANONYMOUS BODIES IN 
AN EMPTY ROOM







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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Big Chief? / SubPop=Seattle
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:56:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) says:

>Admittedly, the old Green River stuff and Screaming Life and Fopp by
>Soundgarden do sound grungy.  That is the word.  But after that, I just
>don't know.  Just to be anal, Soundgarden didn't start on SST; only
>Ultramega OK and the Flower ep are on SST.

Who did Soundgarden start on?
>
>
>
>

-- 
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University of Michigan Class of 1996
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Anyone heard of "The Twinkeyz"?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:37:11 GMT

I'm looking for information on an alternative group called the Twinkeyz. All I know about them is that they do this terrific tune called "Aliens in our Midst" and judging from the vocals they seem to be American. If anyone knows anything at all about them (are they still around? what company do they record for?) feel free to pipe up. Thanks. My name is Derek Weiler.



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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: Smiths covers?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:25:06 GMT

winter@gressenhall.sw.stratus.com (Brian Winter) writes:

>Hi - I'm trying to find out about artists/bands that have covered
>songs by the Smiths, and which songs they covered. The only one I know
>of is "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" covered by Act.

>Any others?

I've been hearing a kind of punkier cover of the "Hang the DJ" song
(sorry, don't know title, butyou know the one I mean) that I've been
wondering who it's by.  

Lena

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: Re: T42 - A band from Dallas, TX	
Keywords: T42
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:48:56 GMT

In article <Btp4rz.57B@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> ekimmina@pms240.pms.ford.com (Eric Kimminau) writes:
>Im searching for anyone who is familiar with the band T42. The guys are friends of mine and Im interested in how they are doing.

t42 had a minor club hit i guess back in 1990 with "don't let my love push you
away" which was on dallas's oak-lawn records (cccp and voyou's and mcl's record
co.)... they recently (about 1/2 a year ago) released an album called "intruder"
which spawned another dance hit "Desire" (the 12" inexplicably has remixes by
nyc technomeister joey beltram)... the album has a ludicrous cover of heaven
17's classic "let me go"...

yours,
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Bailter Space (was Re: Flying Nun bands
From: phys170@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Albrow)
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:06:17 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <hrpsdj.36@pnv.dsir.govt.nz>, news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
> 3) It was my understanding that Kilgour played in Nelsh Bailter Space,
> consisting of Alistair Parker, John Halvorsen and Hamish. 
> Bailter Space consist of Alistair, John H and Brent Mclaughlin.

 Actually NBS became BS about the time John replaced Ross Humphries. The band
was certainly more interesting in those days.
From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Looking for NE CD's
Keywords: nitzerebb
Date: 31 Aug 1992 18:09:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University

A couple of questions:

Am I the only one around who listens to Nitzer Ebb? (I sure hope not)! I never see anything
posted about them...

Also, is anyone here from Houston? If so, do you know where I can get a copy of the
flourescent green CD single with remixes of "Lightning Man", "Getting Closer", and
"Fun to Be Had"? I'm also looking for a cheap copy of Warsaw Ghetto and songs from
that period in NEP history... If anyone's got a copy they want to get rid of, tell me
about it!


-- 
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Aspiring young Electrical Engineer
Resident, Jones 4th North "Jones' Quality Floor"
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.info
From: Mark.Cornick@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: MAILINGLIST: CORRECTION TO NEW MAILING LIST: indie-list
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Originator: recmusic@galaxy
Reply-To: Mark.Cornick@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:10:44 GMT

Joshua Houk's address is 

houk@athena.cs.uga.edu

not

houk@athena.uga.edu

as reported in the previous article. Sorry, man.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: bt716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Janis Breeze)
Subject: violent femmes info
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 14:07:12 GMT


hi, i'm a new violent femmes fan - a big fan.  but, i know               
nothing about them.  i was hoping that some other fans
of the femmes might be able to tell me something about them
(i.e. - where they come from, how old they are, the   
inspiration for gordon gano's lyrics, etc).  i really
don't know anything about them.  thanks.
janis
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: "Doppelganger"
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:48:08 GMT

In article <66R702lC1fJ401@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> izo30@ccc.amdahl.com (Ian O'Brien) writes:

>In article <797@dsbc.icl.co.uk> sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.225258.5410@midway.uchicago.edu> gal2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>I have a 3rd/4th/+ generation copy of a song on a tape a friend made
>>>for me. There's one really great song that no one I've played it for
>>>can identify. It's sung by a woman, and the primary instruments are
>>>piano and trumpet. Here's the lyrics:
>>>
>>
>>Didn't Curve do a song called "Doppelganger". Or is that the album?
>>Oh God, I don't know. :-)

>Curve: Piano and Trumpet?????? no somehow I don't think so - that doesn't
>sound like the Doppelga"nger I am currently deafening myself with on my
>walkman.

>Does anyone else think that Doppelga"nger (the album by Curve, not
>the song referred to in the original posting) sounds very much like
>the early Cocteau Twins album "Garlands"?

No.

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From: sdm91r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stuart Maclean)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Luna
Keywords: No LP
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:06:06 GMT


 Hi there,
	the Luna Lp is meant to be out now. Shock horror but it isn't released in 
	England on vinyl. cd and tape only apparently. Does anyone know if its out
	in America or Europe on vinyl. I hate tapes and loathe cd. 
	(cd=phil collins.)

	Stuart.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
Subject: Re: Flying Nun bands
Organization: Democrats for Broccoli
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:05:55 GMT

In article <hrpsdj.36@pnv.dsir.govt.nz> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.195201.559@athena.mit.edu>, ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben) 
>writes:

>> Dead C? 3. How can you reconcile your love for Bailterspace/Gordons, your
>> hatred of the Clean and everything derived from them, and the fact that 
>> Hamish Kilgour used to play in Bailterspace? 

>1) Fair comment, but the original post was just to start a discussion of 
>alternative `alternative' NZ music, I don't hate them so much and was just 
>trying to point out that there is more to NZ music than just the guitar-
>janglers. (To Damon, I am neither narrow-minded or an idiot (or maybe both 

Please don't assume that all foreigners know about the jangly bands
and nothing else.  It doesn't take a lot of digging to find out that
there's more to Kiwi music than the Chills.  I've heard old-style
punk, bad heavy metal, goofy rap, industrial sludge, country music,
singer-songwriters, 60s garage bands, jazz-rock, dance pop and a lot
more from New Zealand, all from my home here in New Jersey.

>3) It was my understanding that Kilgour played in Nelsh Bailter Space,
>consisting of Alistair Parker, John Halvorsen and Hamish. 
>Bailter Space consist of Alistair, John H and Brent Mclaughlin.

Nelshbailterspace was the name of the first EP by Bailter Space,
which consisted of Alaister Parker, Hamish Kilgour, Ross Humphries
and a woman whose name escapes me at the moment.  By the first LP,
*Tanker*, the band consisted of Alaister, Hamish, and John
Halvorsen.  Brent MacLaughlin engineered and co-produced that album.
When Hamish dropped out, Brent joined, effectively re-creating the
Gordons.  That lineup made *Thermos* and, I assume (haven't got the
record yet) *The Aim*.  In fact, the original "band" was just
Alistair and Hamish, who got together to explore the possibilities
of metallic percussion.  Doesn't sound very jangly to me.
-- 
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