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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:46:11 -0500
From:         JDBER@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      Looking for a way to keep people from writing to disks

Hello all...

In our schools IBM lab, we have a problem with people installing games and
programs on our hard drives, and not deleting them. Even worse, sometimes
they will delete some of our stuff to do it! Is there a program (or
ingenious method) that will either keep them from doing this, or make
recovery easy?


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:13:37 MEZ
From:         chanwk@DSB835.EDVZ.SBG.AC.AT
Subject:      Re: A (archuiive attribute) in DOS

help me, please!

how to use this list.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:00:24 +1100
From:         Tmne Sperling <tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: what is happening to this list?
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              <TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
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              04 Jan 93 22:45:33 -0500.
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> lets make some rules ... the list is for travel queries
> and general responses of interest to the group as a whole,
> summaries of information received and the like ... that would
> have eliminated all this garbage we are going through.

Stuff deleted........

> for my 2 cents, the idiot who is going to Colorado so he won't be
> stared at in the bathroom doesn't require a response ... you feed
> him by responding ... he doesn't deserve attention of any type.

Well, for my 5 cents worth (we don't have any currency smaller than 5
cents any more) I frankly thought the list was starting to get a bit
more interesting. I wasn't sifting through lots of enquiries for hotels
near the airport in Woop Woop, the answer to which could easily be found
in the local tourist office. I don't think we need to make too many
rules. The only rule you need to know is how to delete unwanted
messages......like this one!! :-)


 -- Tmne
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From:         Tom Kearns <tkea@SEQ1.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      Re: TULSA, OK
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On Wed, 6 Jan 93 09:16:26 -0500, The weather prophet wrote:

>
>I will driving from Virginia Beach, VA to Tulsa, OK (and back) the weekend
>and week of Memorial Day.  I will be staying in Tulsa for a couple of days.
>First, any suggestions of things to do and see in and near Tulsa.  Second,
>I will be taking I64 on way and I40 the other.  We had thought of stopping
>in St. Louis, Memphis and/or Nashville.  Any suggestions on things to see
>(that can be done in a short amount of time) anywhere near this route.
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
>                                       Jim Lambeth
>                                       LAMBETH@ASDVAX.LARC.NASA.GOV
>                                       jdl@jaguar.larc.nasa.gov
>                                       LAMBETH@HALOE.LARC.NASA.GOV
>
>P.S.  I wish we could stick to travel on this list and debate the gay rights
>      issue somewhere else!
I-40 goes through Asheville, NC - check out the Biltmore House (Vanderbilt
estate) - you won't be disappointed!
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 06:38:26 TUR
From:         "James A. Schaefer" <FACSCHAEFER@RIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cincinnati, OH
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Attractions in June
	Serpentine Wall along Ohio River. People catching "rays" and wading
	in fountains.  Nice to relax on step-like wall and watch river
	traffic.

	Fountain Square.  Center of town, people watching usually music	 
	provided in summer by city govt.

	Mount Adams. Trendy area with many small bars and restaurants. some
	views of the river again.

	Cincinnati Zoo. Bengal tigers and gorillas.

	You may be able to get a tour of the Proctor and Gamble soap making		or crisco
 canning operation. Look in white pages for P&G customer
	relations.

Food
	You have to have some chilli in     i!! 5-way has chili, beans,
 onions, cheese,
	and spaghetti.  You can also order n-way, n = 2..5.

	Across the Ohio river in Covington, Kentucky along the shore are		several (3+)
 river boats tied up that are floating restaurants     rants.  You
	can see them from the Serpentine Wall.  Also take a walk in the
	vicinity of the boats (nearby?), some historic homes.

	Aglemisi (spelling?) ice cream.  there's a famous chocolateer in Cinn
	but I don't remember the a name.

	I haven't eaten there, but Cinn. has a 5-star rest., the Masonette
	i downtown.  Haute cusine, expensive.

Enjoy your trip.
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From:         Rosemary Cullen <AP201034@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Best Travel Guide for London & Environs?
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The best food guide to England and London (and, really, the only good one
I've ever seen) is the Good Food Guide.  It was absolutely infallible for
all of England.  Particularly in the north of England, whenever we strayed
from it, we had inferior food.

Michelin is my favorite sightseeing guide for anyplace!

P.S.  This is the nuttiest list I have ever been on!

Rosemary Cullen, Brown University
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From: NETMAINT@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: The Namibia Trip
Organization: Wits University
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 11:26:51 RSA

Hi there
 
   Who wants to travel from one side of Namibia to the other ????
 
   For more details send to Arch at: 074arch@witsvma.wits.ac.za
 
   First you must decide if you want to fly to Johannesburg.
 
   Ciao
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Date: 4 Jan 93 10:19:33 GMT
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Students from Taiwan.....
Please STOP IT!!
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 09:16:26 -0500
From:         The weather prophet <lambeth@ASDVAX.DNET.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      TULSA, OK
Comments: To: "\"travel-l"@"trearn.bitnet\"@EAST.DNET.NASA.GOV"
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I will driving from Virginia Beach, VA to Tulsa, OK (and back) the weekend
and week of Memorial Day.  I will be staying in Tulsa for a couple of days.
First, any suggestions of things to do and see in and near Tulsa.  Second,
I will be taking I64 on way and I40 the other.  We had thought of stopping
in St. Louis, Memphis and/or Nashville.  Any suggestions on things to see
(that can be done in a short amount of time) anywhere near this route.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

                                       Jim Lambeth
                                       LAMBETH@ASDVAX.LARC.NASA.GOV
                                       jdl@jaguar.larc.nasa.gov
                                       LAMBETH@HALOE.LARC.NASA.GOV

P.S.  I wish we could stick to travel on this list and debate the gay rights
      issue somewhere else!
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 17:42:23 TUR
From:         "SUE THOMAS (602) 392-5147" <THOMAS@GWC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Overnight stay in Hongkong
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Anuj,

I envy your trip. It is my wish to visit Calcutta again someday. The
places I stayed in Hong Kong and Bangkok were really not for children.
When you arrive in Hong Kong there is a tourist information booth that
will give you information on what is available. I know a good place
to stay in Hong Kong is the YMCA. You have to take a taxi there.  The
airport is situated on a narrow peninsula, therefore you have to go
into Hong Kong. Make sure you get the correct taxi rate.  They overcharge
from the airport.

In Bangkok I stayed in China town. The end of the train line from the
airport. If I can remember the name of the hotel I will contact you
later.

Sue
thomas@gwc
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:19:00 EST
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      NJ area specialist
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Jim Schaefer suggested I might want to offer my suggestions for "brightening"
the Garden State (that's New Jersey, for you who've never seen our tomato
gardens).

I'd be happy to offer info about my much-abused homeland, but what interests me
may be a little different from what the younger members of Travel-L are
interested in--we like canoeing, camping, visiting restored historical sites,
"chasing" nor'easters (we've got a terrific video of the October 1991 storm),
in general enjoying the little patches of green still left in this state.

If anyone wants info along those lines--including where some good fishing spots
are, you can contact me.  Sorry, but I know next to nothing about Atlantic
City, except that it's dirty, run-down, disgusting, and attracts out-of-staters
like bees to honey, making the Garden State Parkway a death-trap for my kids
who have to travel to and from college along with all the casino busses.
Sorry!  I won't editorialize!

Anyway, give me a yell if you want something a little relaxing and peaceful.
And, Jim, yes, the western part of New Jersey is very, very lovely.  We took a
ride into Lambertville last summer and along the Delaware-Raritan Canal--very
peaceful, pastoral.  Several state parks there, as well.

Hilde Horvath
Horvath@daemon.rutgers.edu
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:14:51 -0500
From:         The weather prophet <lambeth@ASDVAX.DNET.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Political agendas
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Please, I thought this was a travel list.  This list is NOT intended to be
a place for someone to forward their political agenda.  If you make your
travel plans based on whether you agree with the politics of the local
government then you are going to miss many great sights throughout the world.
Anybody who has not been to Colorado should go because it is a great state
with many things to see and do.

                                        Jim Lambeth
                                        LAMBETH@ASDVAX.LARC.NASA.GOV
                                        jdl@jaguar.larc.nasa.gov
                                        LAMBETH@HALOE.LARC.NASA.GOV

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>In article <1993Jan4.160022.1556@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jmelnick@nyx.cs.du.edu
>(Jay Melnick) writes:
>>                                TravelBank Systems
>>                               Colorado TravelBank
>>                               COLORADO SKI REPORT
>>                   "Colorado, Where else would you want to ski?"

> Someplace that didn't have a constitutional amendment stripping gays,
> lesbians, and bisexuals of their civil rights?

> Oh, was that a rhetorical question?

> Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
> "To make the point [that homosexuals hamper military effectiveness] I'd
> say that you would have to sift through your military history till you
> find an instance in which failure has been attributed to the presence
> of homosexuals on the losing side.  I'm not aware of any such case in
> the past 2500 years, but I'd be interested to hear what you find."
> -Nathan Engle
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:46:03 CST
From:         "Susan R. Burns Missouri University" <C432934@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Information Branson, MO area.
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The Shepherd of the Hills play is my favorite place to go--lots of action
and done by locals so you get some of the real flavor of the place before
tourism took over.  The evening program at Silver Dollar City with the
Branson Brothers Quartet is very entertaining and can be seen for the
price of the all-day ticket into the City.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:14:19 EDT
From:         Okan KOCAK <EMY03@TRFIRAT.BITNET>
Subject:      This is a TRAVEL list
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   I dont understand the people complaining about the msg.
   on the list.If you are not interested in the hotels to
   stay,places to miss etc... Why dont you just SIGNOFF
   yourself.As somebody said before ..This is not a list of
   some politics or not the list to discuss rights of some
   people.This is just a list for TRAVELLERS  who like to
   travel and see new places in nature.I am sure those ppl.
   discussing about uninterested issues on this list can
   find a list on their interests.So please,those people
   not interested in travelling JUST SIGNOFF..

   Okan KOCAK
   EMY03@TRFIRAT
From: junck@okra.fnal.gov (Kevin Junck)
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Subject: Need b&b recommendation for Galena, Illinois
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:18:28 GMT
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I have traveled through Galena a couple of times and would like to
stop there for a quiet weekend with my wife.  Any recommendations on a
good bed & breakfast and what to see/do in the area?  Thanks!

--
Kevin L. Junck     a.k.a. Junck@okra.fnal.gov            708-840-8368
Fermi National Accelerator Lab                 Batavia, Illinois, USA
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From:         "LAURENE S. FARLEY" <ADP_LAURENE@WSC.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      COLORADO - Amendment 2
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I was going to keep my mouth shut, but I changed my mind...

I'm frustrated at the amount of MISinformation going around
the country about this "law".  There was misinformation given
out by BOTH sides of the fence BEFORE and especially SINCE the
election.

The amendment verbage was written (however ambiguously) simply
to NOT make gays, lesbians, etc. yet another protected group.
As my husband put it, if we make every group that wants to be
a protected group "protected", then the only ones at a
disadvantage would be WHITE HETEROSEXUAL MALES!

My intent, here, is not to start or perpetuate a flame war
on this otherwise WONDERFUL newsgroup.  I simply thought
I'd let you know that this whole thing has been misrepresented
by all factions.  I also feel that it is unfair to lump
all of Colorado's people into ONE STEREOTYPE.  We are traditionally
a very liberal, forward-thinking state.

Laurene in Colorado

P.S. Also, you'll miss some of the most beautiful scenery in
the country if you boycott Colorado.  It makes no difference
to me whether you come here or not -- it would be your loss.
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Dear Ya-Chih,

     I would like  to reply both your  letters. I am not at  all surprised by
the fact that you were worried  about the reputation of Taiwan... However, it
is  clear  to me  that  the  recent flood  of  letters  has been  written  by
enthusiastic YOUNG students who want to get acquainted with other people, and
they do  not necessarily represent the  people of Taiwan. (They  are not only
MBA  students  as you  said,  since  we had  a  similar  flood from  the  MIS
department back in June.)

   I myself, can easily understand them, since I correspond with friends from
Australia  and India,  and I  think that  getting to  know other  people from
different countries and  cultures is a very fascinating  idea. The enthusiasm
and  joy  in  these  young   students'  letters  really  catch  my  sympathy.
Nevertheless, as we all felt, this  is not the right forum for "Pen-palling",
since most of the members of  this list are interested in TOURISM discussions
only.

    I  have meant  not to  be  unfriendly, but  to make  these young  members
understand that  their uncontrolled writing  is inappropriate, and  that they
might be most welcomed in other fora.

                           Hope everything is clear and nobody is offended,

                                                                Avner.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:04:11 EST
From:         rgtaylor@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: Information Branson, MO area.
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Dear Fred,

  I used to live just south of the Arkansas/Missouri state line in a very
small town called Yellville, AR.  That area is really a nice place.  We did
rent a houseboat one time, though it was not on Table Rock.  Our family
enjoyed the trip very much, but it is a slow way to relax.  If your looking
for alot of excitement, I would suggest something else.

Silver Dollar City is fun and they tell me Branson is now a booming town with
lots of country western music shows.   I always enjoyed the Branson area.

Have fun!

Ranette
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Please no more message from YOU guys at N.S.Y.U. They are taking up my
valuable disk space..

So, please give me and others a break will ya??
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What I'm waiting for now is for the Taiwanese students to start commenting on
gay rights.

Hilde
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:11:00 EST
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      Re: The Florida Keys
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Kathy, the one restaurant I remember being fantastic on the Keys is the Italian
Fisherman in Key Largo.  It's on the bay and has a lot of outside seating.  If
you get there around sunset, you get a delightful view of the sun going down in
the water.  And the food is great, too, and not too expensive.  Be sure to feed
teh catfish that live under the restaurant.

Between good food, fine and natural ambience, and fat and silly fish to amuse
you, it's a nice place for a meal.

Hilde
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From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma)
Subject: The dangers of a Usenet/LISTSERV gateway
Reply-To: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:17:29 GMT


I've seen all the posts from Taiwan and now those regarding Colorado and
just thought I'd toss in a couple things.
    I've stopped getting mail from the LISTSERV and started reading via
bit.listserv.travel-l to cut down the amount of mail.  I still get the
same stuff, and can still contribute too.
    TRAVEL-L  subscribers may not know that the Colorado postings are
posted to several Usenet newsgroups, one of which is the bit.-.travel-l.
The readership is much, much wider, including rec.travel and a few
others, and anybody who replies from another group will also post to
travel-l if they don't change the followup.  Mail you send to TRAVEL-L
doesn't get back to the other groups, so the people who have posted
these followups never see your pleas.  Until someone redirects the
followups appropriately, they'll keep appearing here until that thread
dies out.
    If you have Usenet news access, you may wish to consider using that
to read TRAVEL-L instead, since you won't get 160 messages each week by
mail and you would be able to see why these messages proliferate due to
appearing in so many newsgroups (the format for a message originating
from usenet is slightly different from one passing through the LISTSERV).
Depending on your reader, you can also ignore anything on this or any
topic you choose automatically.  Look -- no more Colorado postings!

     Okay, so this isn't about travel, but I just thought I'd let you
all know about something that's been bothering you and you might not be
able to figure out otherwise.

Now I wish I had something to add about travel...  Okay, how much
interest would there be in computer-based travel information you could
access?  (Train timetables, weather forecasts, you name it...)
-- 

     Barry Bouwsma,     ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU [Internet]     +1 313.995.3494
          2525 Londonderry,  Ann Arbor MI  48104-4017  USA
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From:         Kathy Hutchinson <KATHYH@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      The Florida Keys
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   Hello fellow travellers,

      It is time to plan a winter vacation and we have decided on the
   Florida Keys.  I have been there before but only spent 1 day seeing
   all the Keys.  What I would like to know are good places to stay,
   especially in Key West, good places to eat, and must see things to
   do.  We hope to be spending most of our time in Key West.  Thanks
   for any info.

                                              Kathy
                                              KATHYH@ccvm.sunysb.edu
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