From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re:  Oh, Dougie...
Summary: Does this mean affection towards Dougie? Doug, I'd watch out if I were you...
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:39:24 GMT
Organization: California State University: Sacramento

In article <1992Aug17.154655.22350@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:

More of his patented feral lithium-deprived diatribe hated even by 
Elizabeth Bartley and possibly other members of the pro-choice camp,
not deleted. 

>   Since Doug Holtsinger carps on about so many facets of choice,
>he sidesteps the bulk of women that get abortions in America.  It
>is a fact that most of those who have abortions, are ADULTS, they
>do NOT use government money to pay for them, and they occur early
>in the FIRST trimester.  Since Dougie babbles on about situations
>that are not part of the majority of abortions in this country, I
>wonder how he feels about those ADULT women who PAY FOR THEIR OWN
>FIRST TRIMESTER abortions.  If Dougie objects to these abortions,
>along with all of the extreme situations that he whines about, we
>should probably point out that his whining suggests that he feels
>the majority of abortions are okay.  If he objects to these, then
>why on earth does he carp about the extreme situations?  If there
>is NO abortion that is okay to Dougie, then maybe he should cease
>implying that he objects ONLY to the extreme situations.  If Doug
>thinks that by focusing his arguements on the extremes, he should
>be able to paint a false picture of what abortion is, he has made
>a big mistake.  He seems to think that those who read his garbage
>are as stupid as he is.  Those that are for choice do not have to
>lie, or mislead, or post items out of context.  Supporters of the
>right to choose do have an advantage over the anti-abortion types
>in America.  They have truth on their side. 

Egads, the sonovabitch has full justification in his text!

Well, Coughmeister, I'll address this:
If you've got "truth" on your side, then why is it that so many
pro-choicers, such as formerly myself, read the truth and found it
grossly contradictory to the premise of abortion rights? 
 
>					      When morons like our
>boy Dougie call an embryo or a fetus an infant, he seems to think
>that people will swallow his newspeak. 

Oh, shit. Oh, frigging cowpucky. Roe Versus Wade was the first
Newspeak, Cough Man! The fetus was a person and a child before that,
but then after RvW, they were declared a non-person. It was PRO-CHOICE
that struck the first Newspeak blow, you historically illiterate
idiot.

>                                         But redefining words will
>not work.  So, Dougie, if you oppose ALL abortion, why don't your
>ramblings reflect this?  Why do you go on as if there are certain
>abortions that are okay?  You're a fake, Doug.  And a foolish one
>at that.  Intolerant geeks like you remind me of a quote.  I have
>no recollection of its source but it fits you like a glove!

And you're genuine. A genuine reject, a genuine disgrace, a genuine
man in need of some serious temper-control medicine. 

Doug Holtsinger has more intellegence in the spit he hurls in your
name, than you have in your whole body. 

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