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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #177
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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 23 Jul 92       Volume 10 : Issue 177

Today's Topics:

      [*] 100 MB Hard Drive Responses
      [*] BAD-init resubmition
      [*] Bat Signal After Dark Module
      [*] COMPARE-ALL-11.HQX (re-posted)
      [*] Demo of Exotic Shanghai II Tilesets
      [*] excel-Window-Meister.hqx
      [*] MacAuditor 1.1
      [*] Macintalk 4.0 Stack
      [*] Mac IRC client
      [*] Nuntius1.1.1d2
      [*] portraitcolorized.jpg.hqx (01/04)
      [*] PrettyScummy.hqx (sounds)
      [*] Shanghai II Demo
      [*] Summary of replies about cooling fans for Mac Plus
      [*] Tasmanian Devil startupscreen
      [*] Trapper Control Panel
      7 new QuicKeys extensions (Q)
      Anti-Virus
      A send/receive internet mailer for Mac - does it exist ? (R)
      Bad F-Line instruction (A)
      Bundle Bit for Word 5 Spelling and Grammar Plug-Ins
      Burning McIntosh Issue
      Burn my Mackintosh
      Burn my Mackintosh Sound
      Can't FTP to aux.support.apple.com
      Changing default floppy name (Q)
      Classic II again
      Coach Pro been updated ?? (Q)
      computer stuff overseas
      Consulair Assembler
      Decoding QuickMail enclosures (Q)
      Dovefax software wherabouts (I)?
      Finder is not 32-bit clean
      Flash-it
      Font menu problem (A)
      FORTRAN
      Globals & Quickdraw in Think C Code resources
      IBM 3270 emulator, LC MacLuggage
      Installing from AppleShare 3.0 (problem)
      IOMEGA Bournulli 90MB Removable drives
      Key Tools
      Looking for a program
      Looking for Font display procedure/init (A)
      Looking for SCUBA Dive Log Program
      Mac II -> Quadra Upgrade (Q)
      MacTools optimizer
      MathType 2.11
      Misleading Macintosh Adverts
      ncsa telnet troubles
      Offset icons (A) & (Q)
      Pirates
      Postscript header (A)
      Printing to a file: Is it possible?
      Problems with Apple one-scanner and Ofoto (Q)
      Quadra Compatibility
      Quayle Season Movie - creator type
      Quayle Season Movie - hilarious
      Rebuild the Desktop on remote volumes (Q)
      RevRdist
      SCSI Ethernet Connections (summary)
      Statistical packages for Mac
      Stone age software (C)
      Sys7 boot disk for Quadras
      Sys 7 Startup disk fiasco
      True-type (Q)
      turning fineprint on and off
      X on the Mac (Summary)

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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 11:26:51 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: [*] 100 MB Hard Drive Responses

Last week I posted a message asking the netters for opinions on 100 MB
hard drives.  The response was great and I appreciate all who took time
to respond to me.  Since I posted my request, I've seen others asking
much the same question.  So here is a summary of the responses that I
received:  (Note: The editing is mine).

Thanks to all who responded.

Jeffrey Fritz
jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
West Virginia University

[Archived as /info-mac/report/100-mb-hard-drives.txt; 6K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:43:16 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: [*] BAD-init resubmition

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS INIT ON THE LISTS
LATELY, SO I THOUGHT I'D UPLOAD IT. HERE'S THE ORIGINAL HEADER:

From: shores@fergvax.unl.edu (Shores)


BADInit by Giuseppe Carnevale.  This *WONDERFUL* INIT can save seemingly lost
floppy disks from the bit bucket.  Ever had a "File couldn't be written and
was skipped?" Of course you have, and this INIT fixes all that.  The INIT
fools
the disk's desktop file into thinking that files are occupying the bad sectors
of the disk so you can write to the good parts of the disk too.  When you get
a bad disk that had been formatted and had files on it, salvage the good files
and tell the finder to reformat it.  When the finder fails, it will eject the
disk, but after you hit "ok" in the "Initialization Failed" dialog, another
dialog will popup asking you if you want to format it using BAD.  Hit OK to
work BAD's magic.  Likewise, with a brand new floppy that fails under the
Finder's initialization, BAD will format it, most likely leaving over 95% of
the disk still useable.  Obviously one wouldn't want to put one's only copy
of a doctoral thesis on the disk, but you can still use the disk for trivial
tasks.

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/badinit.hqx; 15K]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:14:26 -0600
From: Dave@GERGO.TAMU.EDU (Dave Martin)
Subject: [*] Bat Signal After Dark Module

This AD module is similar to the Spotlights module, except that it uses a
single spot which contains the Batman emblem. You can set whether to use a
black or "moonlit" (dark blue) background, and whether the symbol is in
white or yellow "light".You can also set whether the screen is cleared with
a random scattering of bats, the size of the bat signal, and the speed.

Very nicely done. And check out the module's info from within AD (click on
the author's name below the control settings). This is almost as great as
the module itself.

Downloaded from AOL.
 - Dave Martin - TAMU/GERG - DAVE@GERGO.TAMU.EDU - BROOKS@TAMVXOCN.BITNET -

[Archived as /info-mac/util/ad/bat-signal.hqx; 22K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:51 EST
From: "Brian K. Pickerill" <00BKPICKERIL@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU>
Subject: [*] COMPARE-ALL-11.HQX (re-posted)

This freeware utility by E.R. Peay compares binary or text files,
and displays any differences it finds. It works on open files, and
can ignore system info bytes, thereby succesfully comparing other-
wise identical files with different modification dates, etc...

I am not the author.  This was in the archives earlier, but
someone has expressed interest in the file on Mac-l and I
volunteered to re-post it.  (Stuffed with Stuffit Classic.)

--Brian Pickerill  <00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu>

[Archived as /info-mac/util/compare-all-11.hqx; 24K]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:53:59 PDT
From: Brodie Lockard <brod@jessica.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] Demo of Exotic Shanghai II Tilesets

This is a self-unstuffing archive containing three files:
*"Postcards Demo" (368K)
*"Postcards ad" (59K)
*"Read Me" (5K)

"Postcards Demo" is a demo of "Postcards for Shanghai II," a trio
of scanned, photographic-quality tilesets for use with Shanghai II.
The tilesets--Beasts, Landmarks and Tropics--include sounds,
animations, and informational blurbs about each tile.  To use the
demo, you'll need version 1.04 of Shanghai II.  An updater to
version 1.04 is here on sumex-aim  This version adds a feature
and fixes some bugs (including the background-beep bug, the
tournament score bug, and the A/UX bug).

"Postcards ad" displays and can print an ad/order form for
"Postcards for Shanghai II."

"Read Me" contains instructions and details about the other two
files.

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/shanghai-ii-tilesets.hqx; 426K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:31 EDT
From: WHITESR@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
Subject: [*] excel-Window-Meister.hqx

Excel_Window_Meister
The Window Meister (TM)
Copyright (c) 1992 Stephen R. White
All Rights Reserved
Shareware. Version 1-920615b

This set of macros and files are intended to facilitate the
navigation and management of Excel 3.0a/Mac windows and files.

The macros can provide the user with a wide list of up to 100 Excel open
windows, from which one window can be chosen to activate.  This avoids
Excel's display under the "Window" menu, which is limited to nine
windows, and also avoids Excel's "More Windows" narrow dialog box. The
unhiding of a window selected from the list is automated.

The macros allow you to easily transport to the data that are the bases
of a chart by copying the formula from the chart's formula bar, then
selecting the macros' "Goto Wrksht/Cells: Use Clipboard" command.

The macros allow you to re-open a subset of a "workspace" created by it.

The macros provide a quick exit from Excel, avoiding the "Save" dialog
boxes if you know you want to get out of Excel NOW!

And much more!

To install these macros, decode binhex, then unstuff. It may be best to
keep all of the files and folders together on your hard drive. After
unstuffing, open z_DOCS.xlw and z_Archv.xlw with Excel. Read all of the
documentation  in column B of z_DOCS.xlw before proceeding any further.
Then open zWNDMSTR.xlw with Excel. It automatically opens z_MACROS.xlm,
the macrosheet. Next, do the tutorial in column F of zWNDMSTR.xlw.

If you have a problem opening z_MACROS.xlm, re-read the documentation in
z_DOCS.xlw regarding installation. You may need to reestablish the link
between zWNDMSTR.xlw and z_MACROS.xlm, which should take only a minute.

Note: The macros occasionally read and write to disk, and they have not
yet been thoroughly tested with Excel 4.0.

Please forward comments and criticisms to:
Stephen R. White
WHITESR@APPSTATE
WHITESR@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/excel-window-meister-1b.hqx; 181K]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:48:52 -0800
From: mxmora@unix.sri.com
Subject: [*] MacAuditor 1.1

Enclosed is MacAuditor 1.1

This is an upgrade of MacAuditor. A disk auditing program to check and see
what software you have on your hard disk. Its great for large groups to
check and make sure that all the software programs on their macs are legal.
it scans for apps,inits,cdevs and stacks.


Matt Mora

[Archived as /info-mac/util/mac-auditor-11.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:36:46 NZS
From: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Subject: [*] Macintalk 4.0 Stack

Macintalk 4.0 Stack

A couple of archive sites (sumex & umich) have recently put up an old
version of this stack, I'm don't know who submitted it (I did years
ago, but not this time). Anyway here is the latest version, please
replace any copies in your archives. Its a full interface between
HyperCard and MacinTalk, usual MacinTalk warning: MacinTalk may not
work under System 7, unless you have a specially hacked System 7
version (don't email me for one, I havn't got it.) Free for
non-commercial use etc.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/macintalk-stack-40.hqx; 24K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:12 MET
From: Olaf Titz <S_TITZ@irav1.ira.uka.de>
Subject: [*] Mac IRC client

now here is it for US distribution :-)

ircle - a small IRC client for the Macintosh
============================================

I have written an IRC client for the Macintosh and would like to offer
to the public the opportunity to test it.

I would like if some people use this program, and tell me about
bugs that are probably ;-) still in it.

System requirements: any Mac (in theory), any System, MacTCP.

Olaf Titz
 --------
Comp.Sc.Student, University of Karlsruhe
internet: s_titz@iravcl.ira.uka.de # preferred
bitnet: uknf@dkauni2 # not as preferred
irc: praetoriu # sorry, have lost final -s

And here is it:

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ircle.hqx; 70K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:37:02 +0200
From: speck@ruc.dk (Peter Speck)
Subject: [*] Nuntius1.1.1d2

Development (pre alfa) version of Nuntius 1.1:
  Newsreader, requires system 7, and ~1200K.
  Written with MacApp3, C++ and the thread pkg from "d e v e l o p".

No documentation is available.

Report bugs etc to speck@dat.ruc.dk, not speck@frederik.ruc.dk

Very known bug fixed:
>Some people have trouble with editing articles when they use
>another editor besides TeachText. I'm working on this bug.


Peter Speck, speck@dat.ruc.dk

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/nuntius-11d2.hqx; 406K]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:33:29 -0400
From: hyw@philabs.Philips.Com
Subject: [*] portraitcolorized.jpg.hqx (01/04)

Description: This is a nice colorized image of an
	     original grayscale female portrait posted
	     awhile ago by somebody on the net.  The
	     colorization was done over an hour using
	     Digital Darkroom 2.0 (Quadra 700) and the
	     result is quite impressive.
	     The original grayscale image is included so
	     that a comparison can be made. Enjoy!

[Archived as /info-mac/art/colorized-woman.hqx; 202K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:19:29 GMT-0500
From: marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker)
Subject: [*] PrettyScummy.hqx (sounds)

Two System 7 sound files, summarizing
Alex Chilton's (ex- Big Star) views regarding the music
business :-) .  I find that the shorter one
makes a great beep sound, and the longer serves
well as an hourly chime for SuperClock.

This is a Stuffit 3.0 archive (use Stuffit Expander or
equivalent) to uncompress.

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/alex-chilton.hqx; 43K]

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:59:46 PDT
From: Brodie Lockard <brod@jessica.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] Shanghai II Demo

Here's a self-UnStuffing demo version of Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye.
Shanghai II is a sequel to the popular Shanghai, winner of the
1986 MacUser Editor's Award for Best Entertainment Product and
1989 MacWorld Game Hall-of-Famer.  The basic game is the same:
remove matching pairs from a pile of 144 tiles until the pile
is gone, or you run out of moves.  But this version has a wealth
of new features, art and sound.

*2700K of b&w and 256-color scanned and hand-drawn art, 900K of
 sounds & music
*Eight built-in animated tilesets (e.g., Sports, Animals, Fantasy)
 and the ability to use your own art
*Thirteen built-in board layouts and a full-featured layout
 construction set so you can create your own layouts
*Nine game variations including new types of Challenge and
 Tournament
*More help features like Show Remaining Tiles and Suggest Move
*Dragon's Eye:  a completely new 2-player game using Shanghai-
 like rules.  Can be played against a friend or against the Mac
*Art specifically for 9" b&w, 12" color, and 13" color screens
 (there's access to all of the art that works on your screen size
  and type)
*System 7-compatible; works on any Mac from Plus on up; no copy
 protection; complete on-line help

Brodie Lockard
Shanghai II Author
INTERNET: brod@jessica.stanford.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/shanghai-ii.hqx; 600K]

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:10 WET
From: "Alun J. Carr" <AJCARR%ccvax.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: [*] Summary of replies about cooling fans for Mac Plus

Enclosed are replies I received in response to my query about
cooling fans for the Mac Plus.

It looks like the Kensington fan is the most common, but I
haven't found a 220 V version yet.

Many thanks to all those who replied.

Please archive this under /report.

Alun

Alun J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland.
Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie

[Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-plus-fans.txt; 8K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:31:34 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: [*] Tasmanian Devil startupscreen

This a 640x480 250 colour startupscreen of the tasmanian devil that terrorizes
Bugs Bunny and co. in the cartoons. He's looking right out at ya! For those
whose memory of geography has faded Tasmania is the triangular island that has
snapped off the bottom of Australia -check it out in your Map control panel :)

The tasmanian devil is still around but endangered and is about the size of a
small raccoon. They eat their own weight in food almost every day hence the
(well founded) reputation of being vicious hunters. They DO NOT spin in
circles
as in the cartoon :-)

Cheers.

Paul                                               //// scientia est potentia

[Archived as /info-mac/art/tasmanian-devil-startup.hqx; 15K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:44 GMT+1
From: FRICCI@POLITO.IT
Subject: [*] Trapper Control Panel

Trapper 1.03
by Alessandro Levi Montalcini
Uploader: Alberto Ricci, FRicci@polito.it

Trapper is a small extension/control panel which keeps track of how many
times each A-Trap is called by all processes currently active (open
applications + System + extensions + DAs + anything else that executes
code in your machine).
Many traps call other traps, and no trap calls itself. So, if you see
that a thousand CopyBits and a hundred ScrollRect have been executed,
you should know that some of those CopyBits have been called by
ScrollRect, anyway ScrollRect has actually been called 100 times (but it
may have been called by TEScroll, who knows?).

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/trapper-103.hqx; 24K]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:24:44 -0400
From: ai888@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas Flesher)
Subject: 7 new QuicKeys extensions (Q)

In a recent issue of TidBITS, mention was made of
"seven new logic extensions" for QuicKeys that are
part of the latest upgrade. Can anyone provide some
details about their functions? I'm not interested in the
other new components of the QuicKeys package
(Instant QuicKeys, SoftKeys, and QK Icons), so I'm
wondering whether these new extensions are worth
the cost of a rather pricey upgrade. Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:43:14 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: Anti-Virus

Has anyone been able to enter the Central Point Anti-Virus signature for
the T4 virus? I tried to enter it, but it wouldn't accept it, twice.

If somebody has the signature for the new virus, either entered on your
own, or from CompuServer, Americal Online, or CPS BSS, please submit it to
the archive.

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:44:11 EDT
From: Scott Traurig <traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com>
Subject: A send/receive internet mailer for Mac - does it exist ? (R)

>>Now apparently there is another app like FTPd that runs in the background
and
>>fields mail messages, and sends them.  Anyone know of such an app or other
>>way of receiving/sending internet mail directly from the Mac ?

>LeeMail (shareware) does Internet mail directly to/from the Mac. Eudora
>(freeware) will mail directly to the Internet but you need an account on
>a POP server to receive mail. The logic is that you may not want to leave
>your Mac on all the time.

   If you have access to a smtp mail server, which is more than likely the
case, then you need not leave your Mac on all the time when using LeeMail.
Simply set up Leemail to use the server.  Most smtp mail servers will hold on
to your mail for a preset time and try to deliver it every so often.  For
example, here at Lockheed, the smtp server keeps trying to deliver mail every
20 minutes or so for 3 days before it discards it.  That way I can turn my Mac
off at night or over the weekend, and when I come in I get all my mail 0-20
minutes after LeeMail is starts (I keep an alias in the startup items
folder).
I also think LeeMail has the best interface of any mail program in the known
universe (thanks Lee!).

Scott (traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com)
"a satisfied LeeMail user"

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:43:04 -0500
From: mcj@chem.wayne.edu (Martin Josso)
Subject: Bad F-Line instruction (A)

I have seen a few postings about this problem but no answers. What follows
are three answers part of a discussion of the problem on
comp.sys.mac.system. I didn't ask the author's permission so I hope he
won't mind. :-)

>Article 20113
>Subject: Re: Bad F-line instruction?
>From: wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo)
>Date: 21 Jul 92 17:22:14 GMT
>Organization: Apple Computer
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
>Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
>References: <1992Jul19.011944.24423@smsc.sony.com>
<1992Jul21.130232.1938@centerline.com>
>Sender: news@mumbo.apple.com
>
>In article <1992Jul21.130232.1938@centerline.com>, Devan F. Dewey
><dewey@centerline.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >and then I got this "Bad F-line instruction" error from the Finder.  I
>>
>> Is anyone from Apple listening?? I get this message a lot, too. It would
>> be nice to know what it really means.
>
>It means that the CPU fetched and attempted to execute an op-code whose
>high order 4 bits were all 1's.  Such opcodes are known in the Motorola
>documentation as F-Line Exceptions, and are meant primarily to interface
>with co-processors.  When the processor attempts to execute an F-Line that
>doesn't correspond to an installed co-processor, it throws up it's hands
>and traps into the OS, saying in effect "Here, you deal with it".
>
>The OS, knowing that no legitimate piece of code should have undefined
>F-Lines in it, assumes that said code is horribly corrupted, and presents
>the fatal error alert.
>
>OK, so Bad F-Line instruction means that some code is corrupted. (Actually,
>almost all of those cryptic fatal errors boil down to some code being
>corrupted).  This in turn means that either:
>
>1.  The copy on the disk got corrupted somehow, so that when you execute
>that application (or int this case the Finder) you are executing bum code.
>The only thing to do in this case is to re-install the effected software.
>(NOTE, if you decide that your system is corrupted, drag the system file
>and the finder into the trash before running the installer, to guarantee
>that the installer actually replaces the whole thing).
>
>2.  Some other application or INIT in your system is stepping on the
>failing application in memory.  Try running with no INITS.  If this solves
>the problem, start adding INITS one by one until the problem recurs.  Then
>trash that last INIT.  If it is not an INIT problem, then one of your
>applications is stepping on something it shouldn't (such as the Finder).
>Experiment around until you figure out which one it is, then trash it.
>
>2nd reply
>Without being there I can't answer this directly.  One of the weaknesses of
>the Mac OS is that memory protection is not built into it, thus allowing an
>errant piece of code to do all kinds of random things. (No flames please --
>this was a decision made almost a decade ago, and while in retrospect it
>might have been made differently, we have to live with it for a bit).
>
>While I can sympathize with your frustration, keep in mind that what you
>are seeing is not a system problem. I routinely work on four different
>machines (two IIfx, a IIx and a PB 140) running 7.0.1 and 7.1 beta.  My
>buddy in the next cube has even more machines including a Quadra 700.
>Since we do software development our machines are always a little flaky,
>and neither one of us sees many F-line problems at all.  There is something
>about your particular configuration that is causing problems.
>Unfortunately, without being there (fat chance: I grew up in DC, and I
>wouldn't go back in July or August if my life depended on it :-) ) there is
>not much else I can tell you.  Sometimes these things can only be found
>with an intense mixture of TMON and strong black coffee.
>
>However, a couple of things to look at.
>1. Are you absolutely sure that the system is installed correctly for the
>particular machine?  If you try to run a IIx system on a Classic, all bets
>are off.  If you are not sure, drag the system, finder and all the apple
>cdevs and extensions to the trash, then carefully use the installer to
>re-install the system - never do a system install by dragging the system
>files from one machine to another: Always use the installer.
>
>2. Are all of the applications and extensions you are running up to date?
>Some older versions of software had problems with some aspects of system 7.
> In addition, some older versions didn't get along with 68030's.  There are
>still a bunch that don't like 040's.
>
>3. If this is not your own machine, make sure it only has one system
>folder.  (use the Find command to make sure there isn't a second one buried
>somewhere). I once ran into a machine that had 13 distinct system folders
>on it.
>
>4. Do these problems occur primarily on one machine.  If so, what is
>different between that machine and machines that don't exhibit the problem.
>
>5. Install MacsBug or TMON.  The F-Line failure will trap into the
>Debuegger, and if A5 and A6 are not clobbered, you MAY be able to identify
>what is being corrupted.  If you are so lucky, then you can use the
>checksumming facility to catch the actual corruption.
>
>6. There is a REMOTE possibility that you have an intermittent hardware
>problem, such as a flaky SIMM.  (It would have to be real intermittent for
>it to consistently get past the startup diagnostics) The only real way to
>test for this is to copy your entire configuration over to another machine
>with the same hardware configuration and see if the problem moves with it.
>
>3rd reply
>One other suggestion:  Use the Heap Check facility in TMON to monitor the
>state of the System Heap.  It slows things down terribly, but given the
>fact that your problems doen't seem to be occurring in one specific
>application I suspect that the system heap is getting trashed.
>
>-tony
>
>>>usual disclaimer<<
>

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:28:43 PDT
From: kroemer@ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Bundle Bit for Word 5 Spelling and Grammar Plug-Ins

In #176, ROBERT_BROCKMAN quotes the following response to his earlier
inquiry (in #171) about lost icons for the downloaded new versions [5.0.1]
of the Word 5 Spelling and Grammar plug-in modules:

>> I had the same problem with the Word 5 plug-ins. I solved my problem
>> (ie. lost icons when i rebuilt desktop) the following way.
>> The new files have much the same resources EXCEPT for the creator
>> resources that the desktop needs. The Grammar plug-in's creator or
>> owner resource is "WDGE" and the Spelling plug in's is "WDSE".  Using
>> ResEdit I copied these resources from the original files and pasted them
>> into the new ones. After I saved changes and went back to the finder I
>> had my icons (and associated ones) back. Even works now on a rebuild.
>> Someone should do a re-post with the associated resources there.
>>
>> NOTE: My icons (from the archive copy) were fine up until I did a desktop
>>       rebuild.
>>                      Hope this helps .... I'm sending this to you
>>                                           direct. Like to know if it
>>                                           works for you.
>>
>> Paul McCord,   pmccord@utxvm.BITNET  or  pmccord@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu

There is a simpler way: Using ResEdit, just open BNDL #128 and close it
again, doing nothing else. Then try to close the whole file. When ResEdit
asks you whether or not you want to save the changes (WHAT CHANGES??),
select Yes. That's all. ResEdit apparently realizes that the owner resource
is missing, and adds it on its own. Nifty!

Regards,

Herb K.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:48:01 -0500
From: smwall@PICA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: Burning McIntosh Issue

>nope. makintosh makes some mid-fi audio equipment. the mackintosh
>referred to is a raincoat. the tube vs solid state issue didn't exist
>in 1937, since the transistor hadn't yet been invented!

Yes, but transistors vs tubes isn't the issue here, it's amplifiers vs
raincoats.  McIntosh was a big name in amplifiers for large scale PA
systems
prior to the Rock & Roll era, when lower priced amps from Marshall, HiWatt,
etc drove them out of the market.  My high school physics teacher of 17
years
ago had been a sound engineer at some pretty big Jazz and early Rock
concerts
in the late 50's and early 60's, and I remember him raving about the sound
>From his big 200 and 500 watt McIntosh's.  I'm not absolutely sure McIntosh
was around in '37, but the Jazz singers of that era did use mikes and
PA systems, so they had to use some brand of amplifier.  My bet goes with
the
amplifier theory.  It makes more sense that the sax player stepped up to
the singer or announcer's mike for his solo, and thereby 'burned [his]
McIntosh', than that he scorched his alleged raincoat.  I mean, what's he
wearing a raincoat for anyway?

Steve Wall
Steve Wall              smwall@pica.army.mil            PM Paladin PEO
Armaments

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:02:15 MDT
From: COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO <coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Burn my Mackintosh

Just getting tired of seeing the stereo company's name bastardized in its
spelling.

The correct spelling is McIntosh.

Thank you.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:07 EST
From: the brooding side of madness <V113PX6J@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Burn my Mackintosh Sound

>mackintosh (sp?) is a brand name of stereo; it is all tubes for those
>who hate solid state and think that tubes are the only thing that can
>accurately reproduce an analog waveform. it is likely that the
>announcer was talking about this instead of the raincoat...
>
>nope. makintosh makes some mid-fi audio equipment. the mackintosh
>referred to is a raincoat. the tube vs solid state issue didn't exist
>in 1937, since the transistor hadn't yet been invented!

The name of the company is McIntosh, and they make very expensive all tube
high
fidelity stereo equipment. Unlikely to be mentioned 1937 before the company
existed.

Thomas Overfield
Rochester Institute of Technology

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:26:18 EST
From: John Alciere <jmalciere@eng.xyplex.com>
Subject: Can't FTP to aux.support.apple.com

I've been trying unsuccessfully today to access aux.support.apple.com
(130.43.6.2) via FTP.  I can't open a connection.  When PING'd, the host does
not respond.  This has been the case since 8:00 EST today.

Anyone know what gives?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:12:49 KDT
From: jhkim@boramai.kaist.ac.kr (Kim Jeong-hyun)
Subject: Changing default floppy name (Q)

Hi.
Is there a way to change the default floppy name 'Untitled' to anything
I like? Typing names everytime I initialize disks is pretty boring.
Thanks in advance.

   Jeong-hyun Kim, jhkim@boramai.kaist.ac.kr

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:07:33 +0200
From: "Dr. Christoph van Wuellen"
<HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Classic II again

The classic II should be able to run all software that runs on an SE/30
(OK, it spends twice the time on it). This is certainly not true for
accelerated classics (open the 'memory' cdev, for example).

C.v.W.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:45:54 EDT
From: grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil (William Grant)
Subject: Coach Pro been updated ?? (Q)

	Does anyone know whether Deneba has (or will) release a
completely System 7 compatible version of Coach?  Last I heard, they
had released an alpha version of Coach Pro 4.0 on CI$, but that was
not overly recommended by their support people, and was several months
ago.  Anyone have newer news?
	Please reply direct to me at "grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil" and
I will summarize for info-mac.

Liam Grant, NRL, Code 5541, Washington, DC 20375-5000, (202) 767-2392

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:37:29 EST
From: Howard Lee <Lee@144.252.1.71>
Subject: computer stuff overseas

Hello all:

I am interested in bringing my Mac II Si, monitor, and external hard drive to
France this fall.  Aside from the voltage conversion issue, are there any
customs fees, duties, etc. that one must be aware of?  Also, is there an easy
way to bring or ship my mac stuff to France?

Replies can be sent to my Email address.  Thanks for any advice.

Howard S. Lee

Howard S. Lee
US Army ET&D Labs
Ft. Monmouth, N.J. 07703-5601
E-mail: Lee@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil
	Lee@144.252.1.1
Office: (908) 532-0630
FAX:    (908) 544-2899

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:21:32 EDT
From: Steve Greenfield <FEATS%VTVM1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Consulair Assembler

I called Consulair to get prices and information about their 680x0 assembler.
They told me that they would send it out immediately and about a week later
I received an empty envelope!  I called back and was told that they were
sorry and that they would send the information out that very day and I haven't
received anything for over a week!

This leaves me with some doubts about the company and how they might handle
support for their product(s).  Before I invest $130 in their assembler I want
to find out as much as I possibly can.  Can anyone point me to a review of
their product or send me literature that you might not need anymore?

I know that there are not many assembler programmers for the Mac and most of
the ones I have heard about use MPW or they slap some assembler code into
Think 'C'.  I am going to learn this stuff come h___ or high water!

- feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:07:19 EDT
From: Scott Traurig <traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com>
Subject: Decoding QuickMail enclosures (Q)

Hi folks,

	I recently received an e-mail from someone who sent me some files by
enclosing them in a mail message sent from QuickMail.  It went out through
their gateway and was received at my smtp mail address.  I am having some
difficulty in decoding it.

	The received file was uuencoded.  I ftp'd it to my mac and uudecoded
	it
with no difficulty.  The resulting file had an icon I had never seen before,
type and creator of a text file, and the name "Packit_Archive", which is not
the original file name.

	I guessed that it was a compressed packit archive, because the size
	was
smaller than the original 3 files, and because of the name (duh!).
Unfortunately, Packit III from sumex says it doesn't handle compressed packit
archives, and sure enough it doesn't work.  Stuffit Lite also refuses to
unpack
the file (I had to change the type and creator to PIT and PIT.  Is this
right?)
Stuffit complains that is unable to unpack the file "only simple and
compressed
formats are supported, this format is not".

	Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

Scott (traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com)

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jul 92 21:06:10 U
From: "bnhirsch" <bnhirsch@wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Dovefax software wherabouts (I)?

Dear Netters,

I have come into posession of a DoveFax+ modem and would like to get it
working
with system 7.0.1.  I currently have version 2.0 of the fax manager software.
Does Dove have a FTP site that I can get updates from?  How about an E-mail?
I
realize they are having some problems these days, but if there is more recent
software already out there I would like to get a hold of it.

Thanks, David
bnhirsch@wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:24 GMT+1
From: FRICCI@POLITO.IT
Subject: Finder is not 32-bit clean

A friend of mine, Fabrizio Oddone, discovered a bug in the Finder (Sys
7), which appears not to be 32-bit clean:
The steps required to reproduce the bug are:
- Make a RAM disk, either with the Memory control panel (if you've got a
Quadra) or with AppDisk
- Make it as big as a floppy disk (let's say 1.4Mb)
- insert a disk in the drive (let's say we insert an 800K disk)
- drag the disk icon onto the RAM disk icon
The Finder will ask you if you want to substitute the contents of the
RAM disk with the disk's ones.
- Click on "OK"

Now, the Finder will either:
- Bomb.
- Report that there is not enough space on disk - in this case you just
need to open the RAM disk window, close it, try to copy the disk again,
and this time it will bomb.

When it bombs, it bombs with a Bus Error. The A4 register contains FF in
its highest byte.
This means that the address was once a valid 32-bit address, then the
Finder modified its attributes directly, thus changing it when in 32-bit
mode.

If you are running in 24-bit mode, the Finder will not bomb. Instead, it
will give Error -35, No Such Volume. So, the bug still remains.
Maybe it's only the bug that's not 32-bit clean? (Question: can a bug be
clean? :-)

- Alberto.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:15:14 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Flash-it

I recently downloaded Flash-it, but I can't get it to show the pointer
in the screen dump. I have used Capture and it gives you the opportunity
to do that, so I know its possible. I just no longer have access to
capture. I need the cursor/pointer to show so that my students can see
where the pointer is supposed to be when they are choosing an item from
a menu (I often teach beginners). -Pete
Pete Tamas, Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:18:49 +0100
From: P.Mett@open.ac.uk (Percy)
Subject: Font menu problem (A)

Mike Williams writes in  Info-Mac Digest 176

>>Can anyone tell me how you can get fonts in various applications that do
>>not appear in the system file?  These were also not installed in the
>>application.  Some time ago I installed Adobe fonts (Helvetica, courier,
etc.)
>>that came with an earlier version of ATM.  I have since trashed those bitmap
>>and printer fonts.  Actually I removed all fonts from the system file
>>except geneva, monaco, and chicago.  However, in my applications I still
>>get fonts appearing in the menus like B Helvetica, BI Courier, etc.  Another
>>thing that strikes as odd is that the size of my System file did not
>>decrease after removing a lot of fonts.
>>
>>I tried reinstalling the system but the fonts still appear.  Any
suggestions.
>>(p.s. I am using System 7.0)    You can respond to the list or directly.
>>MikeWilliams@Uakron.edu

I had exactly the same problem. Apparently it is due to something built in
(Where? the system file? I don't know) to allow backward compatibility with
old
ROMs which could not group font families and had to have separate fonts for
italic and bold; hence  the B BI etc.

I seem to recollect that these 'ghost' fonts can be removed with a font
application (? Fontsizer) but do not know where this is available.

Percy Mett
<p.mett@open.ac.uk>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:37:06 CDT
From: Norbert Mueller <K360171%EDVZ.UNI-Linz.AC.AT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: FORTRAN

  I also cannot resist ...
Fortran is the language of choice for numerical problems.
Though its semantics seem a bit arcane compared to newer
languages there are more important points when it comes to
choose a language for large numerical projects.

1 - reliability
   Due to the long history of fortran most compilers are
   very stable and have undergone prolongued tests
2 - speed
  Fortran was designed for numerical work and a lot of effort
  went into building optimizing compilers. I have yet to see
  a compiler which produces more efficient code than Fortran
  at least on the machines I have been working on
3 - backward compatibiliy
  There ar HUGE amounts of FORTRAN source libraries in many
  fields of science, we must retain the ability to reuse
  and modify the code, none of the converters (f2c) I know
  does a 100% job.
4 - array handling
  FORTRAN is the only language(*) that without the use of
  any extensions or libraries can handle multi-dimensional
  variable size arrays
  (*)As far as I know
Also with new - undoubtedly better - programming languages
there is a catch: You do not know if they will still exist
in ten years.
There is always the questions if learning a new language
is worth the effort. It takes some time until you achieve
proficiency and after all the programming language
is not the subject of but a tool for doing our work.

Personally I write all but the numerical intensive code
in (Think) Pascal, for number crunching on the Mac (on
a Q950 since last month) I use LS Fortran.
I have tried C occasionally - I do not like it due to
its confusing choice of operator symbols and the
greate chance for typing errors to give meaningful
though wrong code :-).

	       Hope that this is not too long...

Norbert Mueller
Institute of Chemistry
Johannes Kepler University
A-4040 LINZ
AUSTRIA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92  17:53 GMT
From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Globals & Quickdraw in Think C Code resources

I have just been looking at the Fader Shell example provided with the
Dark Side of the Mac screen saver. The examples were written in MPW C
and use the techniques detailed in Tech Note 256 for globals in Code
resources. I have the following questions.
1) Think C automatically generates globals in Code resources indexed off
   register A4. Unless I need to explicitly reference one of the Quickdraw
   globals, can I safely assume that since it was the host application that
   called the code, the applications own A5 should be valid whenever my Code
   is in control i.e. do I need to muck about generating copies a la Note
   256.
2) The calling routine passes parameters in to the code. Will RememberA0()
   and SetUpA4() be harmful in this situation (do they mess with the stack)?
3) Which is better, using the Think C header and declaring my routine as
   main(), or using a custom header (ie no header) and having my routine
   as the first in the file containing a dummy main() routine.
4) On a slightly less specific note, is it possible to pass variable arguments
   on without pulling them out of the list, i.e. can I either pass a parameter
   list into a routine or declare the parameter list as global?

Hope someone can enlighten me.

Andy Law
(Big Nose in Edinburgh)
LAWA @ UK.AC.AFRC.IAPE       or      LAWA @ IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK to some folks.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:41 CDT
From: T40ANR1%NIU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: IBM 3270 emulator, LC MacLuggage

Hi all!

A quick question for the terminal software gurus out there.  Does
anyone know of an IBM 3270 terminal emulator for the Mac out there,
either shareware or commercial?  I want to hook up to the campus
MVS system via Internet, but it only accepts the 3270 emulator.  I'm
calling a local port using our 2400 bps modem, and telnetting from
there.  I looked in the archives at sumex-aim, and didn't see
anything.  I haven't tried Archie yet, but I thought I'd try you
folks first.  I've been using Quick Link II (I actually kind of like
it, if nothing else it has built in kermit), but it only emulates
tty, vt50 and vt100 terminals.  Any help would be appreciated.

In my quest for MacLuggage to haul aroung our LC, I only got one
response to my query of a month ago, and that involved a nice case,
but more for a PowerBook than an LC.  So, I went ahead and bought it
anyway (the luggage, that is.)  MacLuggage for the LC, $89+$3 for
s+h from MacWarehouse.  It's very nice, well padded and supported.
It has pockets for the cpu, 12" monitor, extended keyboard, mouse,
cables, modem (The mouse, cables and modem all go into one pocket),
and an outside pocket for books (Well, I got a 500 page book on Word
4.0 in there).  There are two straps that may be velcroed together
to from a single carry strap for carrying by hand (Kind of like the
ones you see on soft sided briefcases, you put the two straps to-
gether and a piece of material with velcro on it wraps around the
two straps forming a handle) and a shoulder strap (essential if
you're not over 6'4", as the case is pretty tall.).  It's actually
very nice and convenient.  Don't think that this will replace
PowerBooks, though, as the whole thing weighs between 35 and 40 lbs!
All in all, though, it works well.  Depending on your budget and
need, it is a pretty good buy.  (As an aside, my wife teaches
orchestra, and she said that the material is the same as used for
gig bags for instruments.  I replied, "Great, I'm a real geek now,
I have a gig bag for my computer."  She laughed.)

Oh well, back to work...

Andy

T40ANR1@NIU.BITNET or
andyr@rdr.chem.niu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 13:36:47 CST
From: GA0095@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject: Installing from AppleShare 3.0 (problem)

I was doing network-wide software installs and upgrades from the server using
custom installer scripts for quite some time.  It worked really well until
last weekend when I upgraded my server to AppleShare 3.0.  Now some of the
scripts, the important ones of course, fail with '"xxxx" has a correct name
but it is not the correct disk' error.  What is the most puzzling is that
running ScriptCheck on a script file that is on my local hard disk proceeds
without errors (all files are found), but running ScriptCheck on a copy of
the very same script file that resides on the server fails (I get 'Insert
disk "xxxx"' dialog asking for the server volume that is mounted) when it
get to check infs resources.  There is clearly something bogus here.  And
I am in dispair as I need my installation capabilities right now. Any ideas?

Robert Brenstein   ga0095@siucvmb.siu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 13:42:00 MST
From: AFriesen.CRF.Bull@3mail.rpm2.az05.bull.com
Subject: IOMEGA Bournulli 90MB Removable drives

    I was just wondering if anyone has any comments good/bad about the
IOMEGA bounulli 90MB removable drives before I take the plunge and spend
the $700.
			    Thanks in advance.
	Aric Friesen

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jul 92 11:04:00
From: Bob (R.B.) Summers <BOB@BNR.CA>
Subject: Key Tools

I installed Key Tools yesterday and had some problems with copying and
pasting text. When I used Cmd-V to paste, I got TWO copies of the information
pasted; when I used the Paste menuItem from the Edit menu, it worked OK.

Don't know if it's Key Tools itself or some interaction with other inits
that I have installed.  I don't need Key Tools that badly so I took the
easy way out and just removed it.

Bob Summers

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:59:46 CDT
From: J. Neville <neville@nrc-iris.nrc.uab.edu>
Subject: Looking for a program

Dear Sirs,

I am trying to locate a program that will allow me to design my own
cross-stitch
designs.  I am aware of a program for the PC called PC-STITCH (although I
haven't been able to find one) and I want to know if there is one for the
Mac.
Can you help?  Any help would be appreciated.

Jenelle Neville



------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:56:45 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Looking for Font display procedure/init (A)

On Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:50:37 EST you said:
>Is there any way to display the type styles of various fonts within
>the pull down font menus of various programs.  For example, when you
>pull down the Font menu the word Geneva will be displayed in Geneva type
>and Symbol will be written in symbol type, etc.

WYSIWYG Menus from the Now Utilities package does exactly that.  I
don't recall seeing a free standing shareware (or commercial) that
duplicates the function.  It's pretty, but it also grabs 60K or so of
System heap.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:54:35 -0700 (MST)
From: BGS@ALPHA.SUNQUEST.COM
Subject: Looking for SCUBA Dive Log Program

There once was a hypercard dive log on Sumex, which I can no longer locate.
If it was shareware/freeware, could anyone who has a copy forward it to me.
I would greatly appreciate it.

BGS@alpha.com

Ben

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 8:49:26 EDT
From: marc@rainbow.mitre.org (Marc Friedman)
Subject: Mac II -> Quadra Upgrade (Q)

	I recall a couple of months ago there were a series of
questions concerning a Mac II to Quadra upgrade, but I don't
recall if an answer was found.  I would appreciate it if someone
who knows could forward that information to me.  I have a Mac II
and am interested in upgrading to a Quadra 950.

Thank you very much in advance.

Marc Friedman - e-mail: marc@mitre.org

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:11:03 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: MacTools optimizer

On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:13:13 CET Mr. H. Lavagnini Trans Div said:
>I've not had any problems at all with the Optimizer from Central Point
>Software's MacTools package.
>
>Henry A. "Hank" Lavagnini
>aerm-it-i@mannheim-emh1.army.mil

I have concerns that optimizers will put the "optimized" files on bad
sectors. One vendor told me they get around that by verifying every
write to the disk. Can anyone comment on whether MacTools' optimizer
does this as well as if they know of any others that do? Thanks, Pete
Pete Tamas, Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:10:31 PDT
From: managan@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov (Robert A Managan)
Subject: MathType 2.11

eickhoff@fn.dornier.de wrote abou;getting corrupted MathType documents.
We have run into that problem about a year ago. Design Sciences reply
was that MathType documents are limited to 32K bytes. Their intent
was not to have you store all the equations for a paper in one MathType
document but in the Word document. I personally don't agree with that
strategy but at least they werre aware of the problem.

I don't know if the new MathType 3.0 has the same problem. Since I will
use it with Word 5 I won't run into that problem since the equations
will be stored as embedded objects within the Word document. If this
works like they say it will be a big improvement. Hopefully my
upgrade will arrive soon!

Rob Managan             (managan@llnl.gov)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:32:16 PDT
From: rjms@scripps.edu (Russell Mortishire-Smith)
Subject: Misleading Macintosh Adverts

I'm looking at the current edition of Newsweek, with a couple of pages
of glorious technicolor extolling the virtue of simple, easy to use,
friendly Apples over hideously complicated, expensive, non-intuitive
MeSsyDOS. Good stuff, I think.

"How to retrieve a deleted File", the ad. states...

In MSDOS, it takes no less than 10 steps, of which the first is "buY
Norton Desktop for Windows", and so on..

... involving SmartErase, selecting deleted files, clicking on directories
ad infinitum.

Now, on the Mac, all we have to do is double click the trash can and drag the
deleted file out... easy, eh.

Seems to me this is grossly misleading, since it only applies until the
trash can has been emptied. After that, it's off to the store to
buy Norton Utilities (or some other fine product), and my guess
is it's at least 10 clicks to get the file back (if it hasn't been
overwritten).

Anyway, I think the advert stinks.

Russell
rjms@scripps.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:24:41 EDT
From: Seth Ness <ness@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: ncsa telnet troubles

hi,
whenever i try to use ncsa telnet 2.5 B after i've used fetch 2.0.6, ncsa
can't
connect to anything. if i haven't used fetch yet, ncsa works fine.
does anyone know whats going on? mac IIX, system 7 tuned. macTCP 1.1

--
 Seth L. Ness                        Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
 Ness@aecom.yu.edu

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jul 92 10:56:00
From: Bob (R.B.) Summers <BOB@BNR.CA>
Subject: Offset icons (A) & (Q)

Phil Calvert wanted a way to stagger the icons in System 6.
I remember a program called Layout that modified the Finder.  It might
be in the archives of Info-Mac.  Also the LAYO resource of the Finder
can be modified by Resedit, but you need a LAYO Template in Resedit to
make this easy.  I remember a warning about not making the offset a
multiple of the spacing or some such relationship.  I may be able to
dig up a copy of Layout if you need it Phil.  Contact me directly.

What about staggered icons in System 7?  The Views CDEV lets you
stagger icons, but the offset is half the spacing which is too extreme
for me.   In System 6, I was able to offset the icons just enough to
have the names not run into each other, but the icons still appeared
in rows.  Is there anyway to modify the stagger offset in System 7?

Thanks for your help
Bob Summers

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:20:32 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Pirates

======================================================================== 18
Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:18:42 EDT
From:         Pete Tamas <GNOME@TEMPLEVM>
Subject:      Re: Stone Age Software
To:           Louis_Bergeron@UQAT.UQuebec.CA

On TUE, 21 Jul 92 18:14:17 EDT Louis Bergeron commented on my post
that a great many people who coplain about System 7 complain
because pirated versions of their SW does not work. (I'm not saying
that everyone who complains is a pirate). Louis commented privately:
>If these people had bought System 7 they would have receive the Compat.
>Checker. I really liked your message and you should have gone even further.
We
>are constantly reading questions whose answers are in the F.. manual. We are
>often helping pirates and that really makes me sick. I fought at the
University
>where I teach so they buy softwares instead of copying. Many pirates ask for
my
>help. Please next time hit even harder, we need that.
>Louis Bergeron ORPBERL@UQAT.UQUEBEC.CA
Pete Tamas, Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:53:36 PDT
From: John Hendrickx <u211310@hnykun11.urc.kun.nl>
Subject: Postscript header (A)

Steve Ebstein has the same problem I posted a few days ago:

>I print by sneakernetting PostScript files to an HP LaserJet III with
>PostScript cartridge on a DOS machine. I use Apple File Exchange to write
>the DOS disk. Doesn't matter whether I translate CR to CRLF or not (use
>default translation or text translation, respectively) - I
>still have to reset the printer to avoid getting mirrored output.
>
>Perhaps a PostScript guru out there can tell us what code to append that
>would reset the printer ?
>
>Steve Ebstein    sebstein@pearl.tufts.edu
>
I got the solution from Don Markuson, author of DMM-laserwriter stuff:

>While it's true the Apple header establishes a different graphical context
for
>executing its PostScript jobs, *any* PostScript-producing software is allowed
>to do this.  Your problem is that you need to send a ^D (Control-D,
PostScript
>end-of-file job-separator) character at the end of your file.  This resets
>the printer to its default graphical context (among other things) for the
next
>job.
>
>Since you mention this problem and use of DOS Mounter, I'm guessing the
>printer you're using is on a PC.  After shipping the file to the printer,
>try the following at the DOS command prompt to reset the printer:
>
>C:>  copy con lpt1        /* Assumes PS printer is on LPT1 */
>^D^Z    /* Type Control-D followed by Control-Z (DOS EOF) and hit return */
>
>The printer should now be all reset for the next job.  You can likely stick
>the ^D into a file and have a batch script print your Mac file followed by
>this.
>
>..Don Markuson
>  dmm@tiger1.prime.com

Don also told me how to modify the laserwriter driver so that this is done
automatically, using DMM Laserwriter Stuff (in the archives as:
"/util/dmm-lw-56-stuff-12.hqx" for sys 5 and 6, and
"/util/dmm-lw-7-stuff-12.hqx" for sys 7. The sys 7 version works fine for
system 6.07, BTW.

>... if you're at all facile with ResEdit, you can build a
>variant of this driver which combines some of the pieces intended for serial
>LaserWriter driver variants to automatically include ^D at the beginning and
>end-of-job.  To do this, use ResEdit and:
>
> 1) Open the PS 7.1.1 driver you've already built.
> 2) Also open the DMM LW 7.x Resources file (click OK if ResEdit complains
the
>    file is read-only; you may have to use the Finder to unlock this file for
>    some older versions of ResEdit which will erroneously claim the file is
>    corrupted).
> 3) Double-click on the POST resource icon in DMM LW 7.x Resources.
> 4) Select POST 8158 and POST 8163 (they're both named "Serial Driver" and
>    are probably near the bottom of the list) and copy them to the clipboard
>    (Command-C or Copy from the Edit menu).
> 5) Close all windows related to the DMM LW 7.x Resources file, leaving just
>    the window for the PS 7.1.1 driver you've built.
> 6) Double-click on the POST resource icon of this driver variant.
> 7) Locate and select POST -8158, and delete it by hitting the delete key.
> 8) Select POST -8163 and delete it, too.
> 9) Paste the resources copied earlier into this driver (Command-V or Paste
>    from the Edit menu).
>10) While these newly pasted resources are still selected, type Command-I
(Get
>    Resource Info from the Resource menu).  Two dialog boxes should pop up.
>11) In the resource ID field of each dialog, put a minus sign ahead of the
>    existing number to renumber these resources as negative of their original
>    numbers (-8158 and -8163).
>12) Close all windows, answering "Yes" to any questions about saving
changes.
>
>This variant should now generate PS files which have ^D automatically
embedded
>at the beginning and end, so you shouldn't have to do anything special on
your
>friend's PC other than copy the PS file to LPT1.
>
>Don't forget these files will now have ^D's in them, which will have to be
>removed if you ever want to embed the file within another PostScript file or
>document.
>
>..Don Markuson
>  dmm@tiger1.prime.com

As a last resort, it always helps to toy with a slide rule and look at the
computer meaningfully :-).

John Hendrickx
Department of Sociology, University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Internet: u211310@hnykun11.urc.kun.nl
  bitnet: u211310@hnykun11

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:09:07 EDT
From: wurst@cse1.cse.uconn.edu (Karl Wurst)
Subject: Printing to a file: Is it possible?

     I have a program that only prints reports to a printer.  Is it possible
to print to a file?  Is there some program that acts like a printer driver, in
that you would select it from the chooser as the printer, and it would put
the incoming information into a file, rather than sending it off to a
printer?
Thanks for any help you can give me.

Karl R. Wurst  (wurst@cse1.cse.uconn.edu)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:46:12 EDT
From: Scott Traurig <traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com>
Subject: Problems with Apple one-scanner and Ofoto (Q)

Hi again (trouble always comes in bunches),

	My wife is having trouble with her new Apple OneScanner and Ofoto.
First the easy question: is there a way to run Ofoto without the scanner
turned
on and or connected?

	Now the hard question: with the scanner connected in the SCSI chain
	she
is having a lot of weird errors and crashing (application unexpectedly quit,
quit cause of type 1 error, etc., etc.)  Ofoto works fine (it really is an
excellent program) everything else bites the dust.  Right now she has to do a
bunch of scans, shut everything down, unplug the scanner, and power up to use
them in her other applications.  What could be happening?

	Configuration:  Mac 2si 5/80 running 7.01, tune-up 1.1.1, scanner is
only thing plugged into scsi port, tried with and without the terminator
(without slightly better), with and without extensions (no difference).

		Thanks,
			Scott (traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com)

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Date: 23 Jul 1992 16:56:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: DPG1509@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Quadra Compatibility

I have a couple of questions for fellow Quadra owners out there:
1) Does anyone know of an updated list, Hypercard stack, etc. that contains
information on which programs are compatible with the 040 caches in the
Quadra?
The list that Apple sent leaves a little to be desired - as I'm sure you
know!
2) Has anyone tried one of the inits that is supposed to disable the 040
caches
whenever an incompatible program is run? I have heard of a shareware program
called Cacheout that is available on CompuServe in the MacUser forum. Has
anyone tried this and is it archived somewhere at Sumex?
Please E-mail at the address below if you have any info - thanks
DPG1509@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU
Dan Goodenow
Rochester Institute of Technology

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Date: 23 Jul 92 12:46:00 EST
From: "IMVS6::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS6.decnet@uv1.im.med.umich.edu>
Subject: Quayle Season Movie - creator type

In IM V10#176, Willi Wilkins says that it is necessary to change the creator
type of Quayle Season movie to TVOD in order to view it with Simple Player.

I disagree.  I had no difficulty viewing it with Simple Player, despite the
fact that the movie was created in Adobe Premier with a creator type of PrMr.

However, I did have difficulty performing a FTP binary file transfer.  Both
Gopher App and XferIt were unsuccessful.  Fetch 2.1b3 had no difficulty.  The
problems with Gopher App and XferIt seemed to result in a file that had no
resource fork (which is necessary for these type of movies).

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Date: 23 Jul 92 12:51:00 EST
From: "IMVS6::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS6.decnet@uv1.im.med.umich.edu>
Subject: Quayle Season Movie - hilarious

I forgot to mention in my previous note about the Quayle Season movie that is
ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!  It is really worth it to download the movie.

Despite taking the VP's statements out of context, it unfortunately
demonstrates that this guy has a whole lot of trouble speaking and/or thinking
extemporaneously.  Does this say anything about the judgement of the person
who
selected Quayle for vice-president?  I leave that for netters to decide!

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Date: 23 Jul 1992 10:18:49 -0700
From: Brad_Stone@byu.edu
Subject: Rebuild the Desktop on remote volumes (Q)

  Under System 6.x, you could rebuild the Desktop on remote volumes by
booting w/o Multifinder, mounting the volume from the chooser, and pressing
Command-Option as the volume mounted.  This does not work under Sys 7.x.

  I need to rebuild the desktop file on a remote volume (in this case a
Novell file server) under System 7.  Does anyone know how to do this?

     - Brad Stone
       Computing Support Coordinator
       Brigham Young University

Brad_Stone@byu.edu

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:01:50 -0400
From: lreda@sophia.smith.edu (Liana Maria Reda)
Subject: RevRdist

     Hello.  Does anyone know if there is some utility or hypercard stack
that would simplify creating the distribution control file for RevRdist?

     Could you mail me lreda@sophia.smith.edu?

     Thanks.

-Liana

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:04:52 +0800
From: rcjpjrv@usthk.ust.hk (Rick Jarvis)
Subject: SCSI Ethernet Connections (summary)

Thanks to those who responded to my query about such connections. I didn't
come up with many recommendations, but I did get some information about
products. At least three vendors make such products.

Asante Technologies; Sunnyvale, CA; 408-752-8388; Asante EN/SC PB $549
(thick, thin, 10BaseT connections); Asante EN/SC-10T PB (10BaseT only) $449

Dayna Communications; Salt Lake City, UT 801-531-0203; DaynaPORT E/Z $399;
DaynaPORT SCSI/Link $429

Nuvotech; Sausalito, CA 415-331-7815; NuvoLink SC $549

This information is taken from "Powerbook Solutions Guide" from Apple in
the reports dir at sumex. There is another file, appletalk-ethernet.txt, in
the reports dir which discusses other connection techniques (thanks to Alun
J. Carr who submitted the report for pointing it out to me). This report
includes a recommendation for the Nuvotech unit.

I haven't verified the prices above. I've been told that Asante sells their
unit for around $200US educational. If I get more information, I'll post.
Rick Jarvis, Hong Kong Univ of Sci & Tech, rcjpjrv@usthk.ust.hk

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:37:10 HAE
From: Michel Lefrancois <4107LEFR@vm1.ulaval.ca>
Subject: Statistical packages for Mac

What is the best and the more comprehensive statistical package for
the Macintosh?
I am considering Statistica/Mac and Systat 5.2 for the Macintosh.
I would appreciate any comments on accuracy, interface friendliness,
speed, graphs quality and integration with stats functions and data,
import and export formats, maximum size of data files (number of variables
and cases), use of System 7 features, etc.

Thank you

Michel Lefrancois
Centre for Food and Animal Research
Departement de zootechnie
Universite Laval
Ste-Foy, Quebec
Canada
G1K 7P4

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 23:42:52 PDT
From: Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Stone age software (C)

>In this context, let me report that a 1985 model MacDraw, designed
>for the original Mac with no name and the original system with no
>number, still works under System 7 in IIsi and others.

Not! (Okay, it depends on your definition of "works".)

All versions of MacDraw prior to 1.9.5 have font handling problems.
Most notably, they reference fonts in such a way that a document
moved from one Mac to another will often display in the wrong font.
Versions prior to 1.9.6 tend to crash when rotating elements
(especially text) under System 6.x or higher. There are numerous
other serious bugs that I have long ago forgotten about.

Believe me, I work at a university where people insist on running
old software and then bitch like crazy when they run into these
bugs (they usually say something like "the Mac is not a reliable
system"). After MacDraw, MacDraft seems to be the next most often
used old buggy program (most often pirated, so I have little
sympathy or patience).

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:17:15 +0200
From: "Dr. Christoph van Wuellen"
<HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Sys7 boot disk for Quadras

It is perfectly possible to create a Sys7 boot disk and put a large
application on it. This has been discussed here several times.

Even Silverlining 5.30 fits on the boot disk.

The trick is to use a minimal Sys7 and to replace the Finder by the
desired Application.

C.v.W.
(This is how I got several partitions on my Classic II w/ 100mb disk)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:41:37 EDT
From: denbeste@orchestra.bgsu.edu (William C DenBesten)
Subject: Sys 7 Startup disk fiasco

>>Because the Quadras will not run anything but System 7, that means will
>>have to startup with a System 7 disk to run RevRdist.  RevRdist is a 73K
>>application.  Guess what folks?  You can't fit a 73K application on a
>>minimal System 7 startup disk if you put the Chooser and Appleshare on
>>there too.
>
> I recommend the solution I used - a portable external drive

The workaround that I use in my lab is to boot off a floppy and mount my file
server.  I keep recovery tools and complete copies of what lab hard drives
should look like on the server.  While this is slow, I prefer being able to
start 10 machines copying as I leave for the day.

This also has the advantage that I permit lab users to get at the
prototypical hard drive on the file server (read-only) so that users have a
chance of fixing a problem themselves.  (OK, so the fact that my users are all
upper-level computer science students may factor into the feasability of
this trick.)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:40:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Keith C. Lantz" <kl2q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: True-type (Q)

I have a question about using fonts with Hypercard.  Specifically why do
fonts with True-type look so much different than without it.  Also, is
True-type public domain, or is it part of the software Apple supplies
with Macs now?  This question arises because I'm working on one machine
with True-type and one with out.  On the machine with out True-type the
text in the fields I put in with the machine with True-type doesn't
completely show up.  Part of the text is hidden, ie the field isn't big
enough, but it was big enough on the mac with True-type.  Any
suggestions, comments, would be greatly apprecited.

Keith C. Lantz
Computer Coordinator/User Consultant
The Heinz School/H&SS Computing
lantz+@cmu.edu
kl2q+@andrew.cmu.edu

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:10 EDT
From: "Michael R. Roman" <MIKERO@lns61.tn.cornell.edu>
Subject: turning fineprint on and off

I have postscript code that sees whether photgrade is on or not, and I have
postscript code that can turn photograde on or off. Does anyone have similar
code samples that do the same for fineprint? Also, does anyone have code that
can force a Laserwriter IIxxx (xxx=+,ntx,f,g...) to print its startup page?

Mike Roman
mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:48:22 EDT
From: stngiam@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: X on the Mac (Summary)

   Thanks to all the people who replied to me.

   The June 92 MacUser had a review of two X emulators - (MacX and
eXodus).  Both were comparable to each other but slower (on a IIci) than
X on a Sun SPARCstation I.  Neither the reviewer nor the people who
replied to me thought that it was unacceptably slow, however.
Performance will depend a lot on the speed of the Mac and the network.

   Either of the Mac X products is probably a good buy for people who
already have large screen Macs on their desks and need to connect to X
clients.

Shih Tung
Chem E
Best l'il Tech School
in Cambridge

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:25:56 PDT
From: LISTSERV@ricevm1.rice.edu

From:         David Duarte <HBLAD118@UCONNVM>
Subject:      Downloading from ftp
To:           info-mac@ricevm1

Sorry to bother you again, but your reply to this question was inadvertently
deleted, so....

A FAQ:  How does one go about downloading a file from an ftp site?  This has
never been explained to me satisfactorily.  Could someone explain how to do
this step by step?

Thanks

Dave Duarte
UCONN Marching Band

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:09:03 -0600
From: Keith Bourgoin  <kbourgoin@chaparral.fse.ulaval.ca>

This is it, guys and gals. You've got until midnight, monday the 27th
of july to tell me if you're going to attend our little reunion during
MacWorld. As the first message said, it is scheduled for thursday night,
august 6th.

Further instructions will be posted tuesday morning. Until then, here
is the roundup of every suggestion I have received to select the
restaurant where we will --FINALLY-- meet each other.

1) UNO (italian)

2) Bull & Finch (also known as Cheers -- you know, the TV show)

3) GREAT mexican/cajun place in Harvard Square

So people, post your combo or if you prefer, set up your own salad and
let me know (so I can spice the sauce, ah! ah!).

Carlos Reed works with me at Laval University and will help me to
oganise the little reunion. Carlos and I will be staying at camping
WAMPATOOK (or something like that).

Carlos can be reached at  Creed@fse.ulaval.ca
while I can be reached at KBourgoin@fse.ulaval.ca

Hope you will attend, it's looking to be a great event!

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