HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hartley@emily.uvm.edu (Stephen J. Hartley)
Subject: SUMMARY: using vinegar on shirts
Keywords: vinegar shirt-underarms household-hints
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:57:04 GMT

  I received only one response about using vinegar to remove sweat stains
from the underarms of shirts.

>Date: Thu, 3 Dec 92 11:10:38 EST
>From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
>Subject: Re: using vinegar on shirts
>Newsgroups: misc.consumers
>
>You might check the library for one of those "household hints" books, or
>the Consumer Reports "how to clean anything" book.
>
>   Esther Lumsdon, not speaking for Verdix.   esther@verdix.com
Stephen J. Hartley, Visiting Assistant Professor, office ph: (215) 895-2678
Math and Computer Science, Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA  19104
shartley@mcs.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: bobpassl@boi.hp.com (Bob Passell)
Subject: Re: Radar detectors advice one more time - no philosophy please
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:43:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I have a BEL966 3-band that I bought via mail-order from
RADAR USA in Chicago Illinois for about $150. The BEL966W
is avaialble now as a replacement. I'm happy with mine,
and although I'm not a habitual violator, it has paid
for itself 3 times (at least) on my daily commute down
the K-band speedway in beautiful (NOT) Garden City, Idaho.

The 800 operator should have the number for RADAR USA.

Bp
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Fines for not registering a vehicle?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:28:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.183613.3403@nctams1.uucp> n36c@pnet16.cts.com (Rm1 Straight) writes:
> On this subject, I have a question. I lived in Ca for four years, registering
> my vehicle/s there. As military non-resident I found it much cheaper than my
> home state. I transferred to Hawaii in 91 and registered my car here, hey for
> .50 a year (yes, .50 cents) I couldn't beat it.
                   ^^^^^^^^^

You really registered your car for a half a cent?  Really?

What is it with this syntax, that is, ".89 cents" (usually with a
cents-sign)?  I see it all over the place.

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
"To make the point [that homosexuals hamper military effectiveness] I'd
say that you would have to sift through your military history till you
find an instance in which failure has been attributed to the presense
of homosexuals on the losing side.  I'm not aware of any such case in
the past 2500 years, but I'd be interested to hear what you find."
-Nathan Engle
From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Who prints personalized bank checks?
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:05:28 GMT
Distribution: misc.consumers
Organization: Indiana University


	I'm about out of checks and need some more.  The checks I have
now have a space theme background.  I'm a little sick of them and want
to get something different.  Someone I once knew had Bugs Bunney on
her checks.  Does anyone out there know where I can get ahold of
companies that print checks with unusual backgrounds?

-- 
-brian

bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu          |      "Even if the brain is removed,
bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu   |     the insekt continues to live..."
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake)
Subject: Re: Radar detectors advice one more time - no philosophy please
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:59:49 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <a1dG02pw2f0p01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, hzf30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Flint Howard) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec18.183541.1403@news.mentorg.com> philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake) writes:
|> >In article <92352.190535NAVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, NAVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
|> >|> Let's go back to basics, please. Assuming that you want one, and assuming you
|> >|> are not interested in lectures about the moral depravity of driving over 55
|> >|> MPH,
|> >
|> >|> which radar detector is best?
|> >
|> >The best ? A Valentine 1 at $300 + a six month wait.
|> 
|> ----- (rest of article deleted for brevity)----------------------------
|> 
|> I've never heard of a "Valentine".  Who makes it?It's been a few years
|> since I looked into radar detectors but back then a company called:
|> Cincinati Microwave was supposed to be one of the best.  They produced
|> two models: "Escort" and "Passport".  Anyone know how they compare with
|> the "Valentine" or if Cincinati Microwave has a new model out that can
|> detect all 3 bands being used?

Mike Valentine was one of the architects of the Cincinati Microwave "Passport"
and "Escort" detectors.

He has now set up in buisness for himself, and is producing a 3 band detector,
the "Valentine 1". In a recent comparison test, the Valentine 1 came out miles
ahead of any competition, including that from Cincinati Microwave - which,
incidentally, isn't bad either ...

The only problem with the Valentine 1 is that production is (currently)
unable to keep up with demand, and it is ONLY available direct from
Valentine - hence the price of $300.

Basically, it has the following features:

	- Two detectors, one facing forward, and the other rearward, and can
	  indicate whether the radar source is behind, in front, or to the side
	  of you.

	- An indication of the number of radar sources detected - usefull for
	  traps set in a zone where detectors ALWAYS go off ... and for
	  multiple traps - one after another ..

	- Virtually undetectable (useful in Canada and those misguided states
	  in which radar detectors are not welcome).

	- Good sensitivity.

	- Low "false" rates.

VERY nice, if you have $300 dollars spare - anyone want to buy me
one for Christmas ? :-)

Philip
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Dedicated ATM card?
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:01:06 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY


Costs for ATM usage are everywhere.  

Some banks don't charge.

When Empire of America went bellyup, their purchaser, M&T Bank, began to 
charge for ATM usage.  I am heavy ATM user, especially since ATMs are
available in Rochester, NY in all the supermarkets (which are open 24 hours
a day).

So I called each bank with which my company had a direct deposit agreement.
They all gave the same song and dance about services (free checking with
direct deposit, etc) but only one had free ATM usage anywhere on the  
network - Manufacturer's Hanover.  I think I have to maintain a 
minimum balance, but the amount is fairly low ($300?).  

When I called each bank I informed them that lack of ATM charges was important
to me, and that is way I was not using their bank.  MH has recently merged
with Chemical Bank.  They sent a questionaire asking why I chose MH, and how
they can improve.  I emphatically noted the free ATM usage.  First Federal
bank continued to send me literature after I talked to them.  I returned all
the forms stating that I would consider their bank when ATM usage was free.

Vote with your feet, move your money to the bank that has free ATM usage.
Tell the bank you are leaving why you are going.  Encourage your friends to
do the same.  Post it on the net, encourage others.  Banks have marketing
departments, they'll get the picture eventually.  
-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -->     David Esan      de@moscom.com  
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: schwartz@nynexst.com (Steven Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Cover Charge for Restaurant?
Originator: schwartz@baba
Reply-To: schwartz@nynexst.com
Organization: Expert Systems Lab., NYNEX Sci. and Tech., White Plains NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:58:42 GMT


In article <1h53d1INNnd2@hp-col.col.hp.com>, cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best) writes:
> Maybe suggest that the cover charge gets credited toward your purchase,
> over a certain amount?  That way, if you don't order enough to justify
> occupying the table for so long, they have the cover to cover it - and
> if you do, then they didn't need to charge it in the first place.

Minimum dining charges in restaurants have been around for a long time. 
It prevents someone from walking in during the busy hour, ordering
french fries, and occupying a table for two hours.  This is -not- a
cover charge: you don't pay up front for "admission."

There is no excuse for a restaurant cover charge unless something is
being provided in addition to the food, e.g. a jazz concert.
-- 
Steven H. Schwartz		Expert Systems Laboratory
schwartz@nynexst.com		NYNEX Science and Technology Center
PROFS: SCHWARTZ@UNIX		500 Westchester Avenue
914-644-2960			White Plains NY 10604
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,sci.electronics,soc.culture.japan,misc.education,misc.entrepreneurs
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: America doesn't have a clue: (was DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:53:58 GMT


Thomas Day is correct in pointing out, in effect, that free trade is not
an ethical or moral principle, but is an economic principle we have
been taught, based on some fundamental assumptions.

Those assumptions are basically those of symmetry--each country does what
it does best, and exports that to the others. Without those assumptions,
free trade breaks down and is without merit.

The Japanese massively and deliberately violate those assumptions, for
their own advantage. They do so in the import, capital investment,
patent, public bidding, ownership, and distribution areas. The facts
are massively and incontrovertibly documented.

Thus the free trade model cannot be used with Japan. Instead a
mercantilist model must be used, hence the arguments for protectionism,
symmetrical barriers with respect to Japan, etc. until they sign on
to the assumptions of free trade principles.

Everything else is noise and self-serving propaganda by the Japanese
and their apologists.

David
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: long distance calling
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:54:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

(thomasl) (thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: Final exam question:

: thomasl@silver is about to begin phone service.  It is necessary to
: choose a long-distance carrier.  Which carrier is most recommended?
: (note: all answers must contain reasons for the selection.  reasons
: for deciding against a particular carrier are acceptable.  extra
: credit: mention any incentives or bonuses associated with each carrier)


Since the basic price of long distance is the same between AT&T, MCI,
and Sprint, the choice for the consumer comes down to the 2 P's: the plans
and the perks.  Since I dont use any plans (mainly because I do not call
that much), my decision rests on the perks.  

For me the automatic 20% international discount to one number from MCI
is good.  PLUS, the ability to get FF pts on American.

Do I pass?  :)

--Ken
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: olds@helix.nih.gov (James Olds)
Subject: Re: Foreign ATM Fees Re: Dedicated ATM card?
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:04:18 GMT

--
****************************************************************************
* James L. Olds Ph.D.                 Neural Systems Section               *
* domain: olds@helix.nih.gov           NINDS, NIH, Bethesda, MD. 20892 USA *
****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: gregj@kong.eng.hou.compaq.com (Greg Judkins)
Subject: Re: Levi Strauss DEFUNDS Boy Scouts
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:40:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.200821.8397@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>jess@engx25.trt.com (Jess Alvarado) wrote: 
>->As a scout leader, I recieve a monthly magazine called SCOUTING.  In a 
>->recent issue ( about 3-4 months ago ) the issue of HOMOSEXUALITY and
>->the BSA was addressed, in which the reader was informed of several companies
>->and banks that have siezed funding of the BSA because of alleged 
>->discrimination against homosexuals.
>
>ahem.  nothing was "siezed" (sic) ... funding wasn't granted, but
>funds which were awarded were not rescinded.
>
>--
># henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
># "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.

Give him a break.  I suspect he meant "ceased".

Greg
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for Nursery Monitors
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 10:21:54 GMT

us267418@mmm.serc.3m.com (Andy Ihlenfeldt) writes:
: 
: 2) My receiver picks up conversations, possibly from radio, tv, cb 
:    or something else.  It's pretty annoying and seems to be getting
:    more frequent.  Changing channels has little effect.  Anyone else find
:    this a problem?

It is on the same frequencies as wireless telephones. If the conversations
are intermittent, that is probably what you are hearing. You probably have
one or more neighbors using the phones.

Bill
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:21178 sci.electronics:21553
From: louis@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Louis Schmittroth)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:51:53 GMT
Followup-To: misc.consumers

aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org (aki) writes:


|WhaaaaooooOOOOoooooo!

|You know, I'm really sick and tired of the American "Japan Bashing" 
|that seems prevalent in America.  When are the stupid, ignorant,
|self-rightous, self-centered, "we're better'n everybody else" attitude
|of some self proclaimed "Americans" going to wake up and smell
|the roses????  Christ almightly people, wake up, yes Japan has
|made a bundle off of America, yes 

Chotto mate kudasai!!!

When someone points out that Japan's industrial policy has been to keep
Americans (and Germans and French and Taiwanese and Koreans and
Canadians ...) out of their home market while having given free access
to foreign markets, they are labelled "Japan bashers".  Bull pucky --
free translation:  Bullshit.

Your come across as an American basher -- must have read the
Ishikara/Morita book, "The Japan that can say NO to America."

You will enjoy living in a Japanese colony.  I won't enjoy it, but
with attitudes like yours there isn't any hope.


--
Louis Schmittroth louis@cs.athabascau.ca
NW 1/4 18 67 21 W4 Alberta.  
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:21337 soc.men:21921 misc.misc:4199
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,soc.men,misc.misc
Subject: Re: Levi Strauss DEFUNDS Boy Scouts
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:16:21 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) wrote: 
>->The Boy Scouts are a private organization.
>
In article <1992Dec31.000435.22718@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>the boy scouts have a congressional charter; such endorsement from the
>legislature probably sets them up for trouble if they engage in
>unreasonable discrimination against prospective members.
>
    
    Hmmmm, good point.  However, the ban on gays and the general 
    anti-gay bias is well publicized, and I've heard of no action
    yet to change this.

    However, the City of San Francisco seriously considered
    withdrawing it's (considerable) city funds from their bank just
    because that bank was contributions which eventually went to the
    boy scouts.

    Maybe with the new administration the ugly divisive climate
    of the fundamentalists and far right will blow away like the
    stench it is....
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Telescopes?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 10:51:51 GMT

chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski) writes:
: 
: Note that some astronomical telescopes invert the image, which is 
: unfortunate if you want to use it for terrestrial observations.

If it is a reflector telescope, no problem. Just turn your back toward
what you want to view. In other words, point the opening of the telescope
behind you. Then, everything will be right side up.

Bill
From: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Dedicated ATM card?
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:16:51 GMT
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

From article <1992Dec30.234736.22322@ads.com>, by henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch):
> lchoqu%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Choquette) wrote: 
> ->Same here.  However, at least in Utah, the latest trend seems to be *against*
> ->free interchangeability.  Last June, a Utah bank with a lot of ATMs started
> ->charging $1 to use the ATM if the user does not have an account with that bank,
> ->and another bank with a lot of ATMs will start doing the same January 1. 
> ->
> ->Is this same unfortunate trend happening elsewhere?
> 
> happening?  it's done.  this is the standard in most large cities.
 
  Yup - that's what I've found.  Virtually everywhere I've had bank
  accounts in the last 10 years charge a fee for using "foreign" atms.


  Since I'm a heavy atm user, the bank I select is strongly based on
  how many atms they have which are available for use "free".  Down in
  Texas about 6 years ago, there was a bank (forget which one - gotta
  have a different name now anyway) which had an atm in every 7-11 store
  (before THEY went on their head).  That was pretty convenient.


- Bob Wier

  ---------- insert favorite standard disclaimers here ----------
                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha  Rao)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Strange Name associates..... (or something like that)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:35:17 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sysmod.egr.uh.edu
Keywords: What a nuisance...


This morning at <<5 AM>>, we were woken up by a saleswoman, supposedly calling  
long distance from New York. She said that she represents "Strange Name  
Associates" or some company like that and that we had won a prize for which we  
should call a local number this afternoon.

I never respond to any of these free prize offers, and was extremely annoyed at  
this odd hour call. When I asked about the odd time, she said that her company  
requires that she call people between 4 and 8 AM. What nonsense..

Does anybody have similar experience? What can I do if I get a repeat call and  
the person would only give me an obscure local number and not the number she is  
calling from?

--
Jagannatha Rao				E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering    Tel   :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston                   Fax   :(713) 743-4503
Houston, TX 77204-4792

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: sam@wa4phy (Sam Drinkard)
Subject: Re: Junk mail with bills
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:09:32 GMT

STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz) writes:
[stuff deleted for brievity]

>Perhaps if enough people do this, the credit card companies will stop creating
>this stuff.  This junk  mail is a waste of time and its  a monumental waste of
>our natural  resources.  I  am sure the  folks in the  Post Office  would also
>appreciate the resulting lighter weight  mail if credit card companies stopped
>including this junk in with their monthly statements.

I think there has to be some strategy to all the junk mail put in / on the
envelopes too.. maybe they think the "compulsive CC junkie" just can't 
refuse a good "deal?"  Theres one company that I do business with that
DOESN'T fill your statements with all that crap, and that's Phillips 66
petroleum.  Maybe just quit doing business with those who do, or mount a
campain against excessive garbage mail :-)

sam

-- 
	S.W. Drinkard			| Internet: sam@wa4phy.async.com
	4428 Branchwood Drive		| Internet: sam@galois.nscf.org
	Martinez, GA  30907		| Amprnet : sam@wa4phy.ampr.org
	(706) 868-8029			 
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (David Ash)
Subject: Locating Rare Used Books 
Originator: dash@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:05:04 GMT

I saw somewhere (I think it was in this newsgroup) that there are
bookstores around which specialize in finding hard-to-find out-of-print
books for their customers.  Can anyone here recommend one of these
bookstores which does business by mail-order?  Thanks.

-- 
David W. Ash               | "What profits a man if he keeps his eternal soul
ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu |  when he could have lived life to the full and
HOME: (415) 497-1629       |  been forgiven at the end of it all anyway?"
WORK: (415) 725-3859       |         --David Merritt, a.k.a. THE RED SHARK
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.consumers.house
From: wesw@sr.hp.com (Wes Whiteley)
Subject: Re: Wood Burning Stoves vs Screened Fireplace
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:32:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]

I'm not positive about this, but I think that a wood burning stove requires
the fan to be running for it to work.  Therefore, if you lose power during a
storm, you may not be able to use a wood burning stove....


Can anyone with a wood burning stove verify this?


wes

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Re: America doesn't have a clue: (was DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!)
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:47:48 GMT

In article <7561@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>out of any responsibility for it, but I think many of us
>might enjoy seeing you try and support your pathetic and
>paranoid positions in a mano-a-mano (excuse me, ladies)
                                          ????????

Why would ladies be offended by the phrase 'hand to hand' ?
(I assume that's why you were excusing yourself...)

>
>Bill


-- 
__________________________________________________________________________
 John Paul Morrison                     |  
 University of British Columbia, Canada |  
 Electrical Engineering                 |   .sig file without a cause
 jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca              VE7JPM |  
________________________________________|_________________________________
From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Dedicated ATM card?
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:34:49 GMT
Organization: ASCI

In article <6222@naucse.cse.nau.edu> rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier) writes:

     Yup - that's what I've found.  Virtually everywhere I've had bank
     accounts in the last 10 years charge a fee for using "foreign" atms.

I'm happy with the way my bank solved this....  I pay a annual $14 fee,
in exchange for this I get unlimitted ATM usage, no matter if it's MAC or Plus.

It's so much nicer not to have to have to try and figure out Mac charges when
balancing your checkbook.

(The bank is Commerce Bank, located basically in southern NJ, Philadelphia, and
Harrisburg.

Bob
Newsgroups: misc.consumers