HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gmw0622@zeus.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: "Anti-Semites" are Jew-haters: True, but show the relevence.
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:08:00 GMT
Organization: GrinchCo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <703163106.F00004@blkcat.UUCP>, Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose) writes...
> 
 > 
 > >What is the origin of the word "Anti-Semite" anyway?
 > >It sounds like it must have been invented by a Jew-hater.
 > 
 >  RD> 	Or an Arab hater.
 > 
 > 
 >Or a Semite hater.

I can't remember who first coined the phrase,  but it was someone using it to 
describe himself.  He deliberately chose an ethnic term to make it clear that
he was opposed to Jews as an ethnic group,  not as a religion.  So he would
doubtless have hated Arabs also.  Nowadays "anti-semite" is used to describe
anyone who hates jews, whether as a race,  a religion,  a culture,  or 
whatever he consdiers them to be,  so we have such things as "anti-semetic"
semites.

St. Grinch
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: JFK - Stone getting flak...
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:33:42 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Apr10.162836.5712@r1info.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>remembered seeing or hearing 30 years ago.  If the lower back of
>JFK's skull was missing then, it still is now.  An exhumation and re-autopsy 
>would settle the matter of the head wound once and for all.  After all, 

Provided the cadaver is still there.  Anyone want to take bets on
that?



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From: as081@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve R. Smith)
Subject: Humpty Dumpty was pushed!!!
Reply-To: as081@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve R. Smith)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 23:38:59 GMT


Let the truth be known.

				5+e\/e
-- 
/'''      I could say "Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"    ```\
c-OO      And everybody'd know what I was talking about.          OO-)
   \      I mean everybody here would know *exactly* what I was   /
  -          talking about.       --Paul Simon                     -
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Lord Sutch
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:25:37 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

that's the guy
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST MYTHS
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 00:58:18 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island

In article <1992Apr6.093341.4192@cbfsb.cb.att.com> cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) writes:

>In article <DF4NiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP>, pfaust@b-cpu.UUCP (Pete Faust) writes:

["Faust's" utter bullshit deleted because I'm tired of reading it]

>BTW: Mr. Faust: Dr. Josef Mengele has just been found not dead yet. When do
>you plan on visiting him to rap 'bout the good ol' times? Maybe we could
>visit you there and get rid of two shitflies in one go! (Danny Keren, got 
>anything good to do the next couple of weeks? :-)

I have given a great deal of thought to these vermin, and asked myself
why it is that I dislike them so. I have discovered the answer, too.
It isn't simply because they are thugs and assholes - the world is
full of those - it is because, at the ripe old age of 51 1/2, having
been raised through childhood during and immediately after the second
world war, I realize that this nazi trash brings out the animal in ME.

I think about images of Krystallnacht, and I say to myself, "If this
occurs in my town, I will not stand by and watch the ugly bastards
intimidate old men, women and children. I will simply find myself a
shotgun and delete them." Never, EVER again must the world stand by
and fail in its duty to eliminate this shit before it gains enough
power to once again terrorize those too naive to resist.

That's why I really hate the bastards - they reached within and woke
the beast in me, and that makes me very uncomfortable - I was raised
in a home with respect for law and institutions, but these nazi trash
have put some of that respect on the spiritual back burner, and it
would be a grave mistake for them to assume that they would be
permitted to behave as they did in the Twenties and Thirties in
Germany - I do not think I am the only one who wishes to say, clearly
and with NO misunderstanding, that it will not be permitted - not
here.


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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,alt.save.the.earth
From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.filipino,soc.history
Subject: Re: Did American Troops Kill 3 Million Filipinos?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:15:36 GMT
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr15.230940.1851@scubed.com> hap@scubed.com (Hap Freiberg) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.190741.12928@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU  -  Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business
>
>Sorry about posting. I think my email is broken...
>Anyway, is this the Huk Rebellion that is being discussed?
>If so, any more info?

No, this is the sequel to the Spanish-American war which ended, three
years or so later, with the Philippines as an American colonial
possession.  It was the United States' only real exercise in 19th
century European-style colonial imperialism-- sort of a perfunctory,
"keeping up with the Joneses" kind of conquest.  There was a Mark
Twain essay on the subject recently printed in _Atlantic_ magazine, in
which he gave the total body count at "only" one million rather than
three.  (He was, shall we say, less than pleased by the US' actions.)

There's not really much more to say about it.  It's probably one of
the least defensible actions in the nation's history.  At least we
paid lip service to gaining Cuba's independence, even if we did insert
the Platt Amendment giving us full rights to intervene in its affairs
whenever we felt like it.  Here there was no real claim that we were
fighting for any principle worth the name.  Basically the US decided
that the natives of the Philippines were "not ready for self-rule" and
decided on a policy of "benevolent assimilation" (though the
benevolent part seems to have been lacking, and, in fact, it can't
really be said that the Filipinos were assimilated into US culture, so
I'm not sure what the point was.)  I'm not the sort to be
hypercritical of the US, and I'm more willing than most to accept that
some mistakes will be made in the pursuit of a good cause, but here
there doesn't seem to have been much of a cause at all.

Just out of curiosity, can _anyone_ find _anything_ good to say
about this war?

Mike
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Never let your sense of morality prevent
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 you from doing what's right!"
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 --Mayor Salvor Hardin of Terminus
mss2@usite-next.uchicago.edu     Isaac Asimov, _Foundation_
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Subject: Re: IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 05:03:12 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island
Keywords: asshole

In article <gate.e30TiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP> ralphw@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:

>                       From the IHR NEWSLETTER,
>                       October 1991 (Number 82):

didn't you print this bullshit a week ago, trash? couldn't you at
least wait for a monthly run?

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From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Subject: Re: Where's bARF?
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:29:33 GMT

Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose) writes:


> v> Has any else noticed the absence of bARF on this and related forums
> v> as of late?

> v> Do you think maybe it has something to do with the increase in the
> v> number of "George Winston/Pete Faust/Ralph Winston" postings lately?

> v> Hmmmm....

>Oh yeah!  Once he/they figured out that bARF was the wrong alias to use
>in their postings...they retired bARF to the same B-CPU gas chamber Foxy
>Roxy awoke to find herself in.  Else it was a mutual suicide pact.
>One can only dream...

Sorry to disabuse you fellows, but mr schmidling is alive and well and
opining like crazy among the homebrewers at rec.crafts-brewing.  He is
apparently and unmistakeably real -- I know people who have spoken with
him on the telephone and even tasted his beer.  He also lives in
Chicago. The George Faust Winston menage (Maynard?) unfortunately live
right here in Portland, OR (or at least within dialing distance,
apparently).  I also have to say, whatever depths my opinion of Arf,
he's not in the same league with the nazis from stumptown.

--Jeff Frane






>... He's a few fries short of a "Happy Meal".
-- 
gummitch@techbook.COM  Public Access UNIX at (503) 644-8135 (1200/2400) 
"Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe."
                                    --Thomas Jefferson
From: s870694@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Alfred Porziella)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: JFK
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:32:27 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:


>So where  did all  the JFK talk go? Our  site doesn't seem to   show a
>alt.conspiracy.jfk ... we do seem to get a complete newsfeed, however.
>I'm wondering if talk has just died down to nothing or if it has moved
>somewhere else.

Maybe this newsgroup and the topics discussed have been deemed a
threat to the National Security of the US of A.
From: v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Ralph/Maynard ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:34:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Yo, what's the deal...is Ralphie Maynard or this supposition?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Many foolish neo-nazies will be laughed at...

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Re: Raving Loony Party
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:08:15 GMT

Someone mentioned the Greens and Libertarians as similarly wacky parties.
I wouldn't call either loony. The European Greens are just another
basically Marxist splinter with an environmental veneer. In this country
they're often termed "watermelons": Green on the outside, red within.
I didn't invent the term.
 
The Libertarians are a small group, but with with some exceptions, not at
all wacky. In fact, I'd say they run fewer wackos than do the Democrats
these days. Most are rather reasonable. I read Reason magazine, which
began as a Libertarian party journal, and I find it moderate in tone and
generally just about constitutional freedoms.
 
       --mike
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: Unauthorized Biography of George Bush: Part 1
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:56:46 GMT

In article <167CADB53.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:
>Why is it that these folks can't just say "I don't like the policies
>of President <insert name here>"? Instead, they have to be dangerous
>psychotics, paranoids, and so on.
> 
>Remember the Reagan horror? He was going to sell us down the road to
>the fundamentalists, start WWIII and burn the number 666 into his
>breast? Well, it didn't happen, so now Bush is the target.
> 

Oh yes, quite right.  I'm glad you brought this up.  In fact, I'm really 
thrilled that Reagan's eight years in office were the best thing ever to 
happen to America.  There certainly weren't any problems with enormous
government corruption, needless military posturing and adventurism, massive
overspending, economic suicide, and shadow negotiations with supposed 
enemies of the US.

It was the best eight years in history.  Yep, uh huh.

>I never cease to be amazed at how people smart enough to operate
>a computer can still be so simple minded. Maybe that's the downside
>of making computers easy to use.

Whether the guy who posted the somewhat poorly written and rather paranoid
sounding (seriously, how long could they harp about the fucking red 
Studebaker anyway...bores the reader to death twice) was a moron or not we
can't yet be certain.  But simply criticizing the government shouldn't be
enough to have someone discredited as a paranoid psychopath.

But you're right...a lot of that biography kind of sucked.

-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
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From: ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines
Subject: Re: IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:16:08 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Apr10.075828.12911@midway.uchicago.edu> gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.024102.7404@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.165207.23234@cs.brown.edu> dzk@cs.brown.edu
>>(Danny Keren) writes:
>>>In article <gate.e30TiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP# ralphw@b-cpu.UUCP
>>(Ralph Winston) writes:
>>>
>>>Hey, Ralphie, read this and WEEP, baby, WEEP!
>>>
>>
>>Strategy # 3: ``The weep accusation''
>>
>>(Hopefully you are following me. At one stage you will
>>learn a good piece of information about your own
>>thinking process. )
>
>Maybe you don't understand English.  Danny's saying that he has
>something, that when Ralph reads it, it will show that Ralph
>(the person who distributes anti-Semitic White-Supremicist) literature
>is wrong, where Danny has been right all along.

Your right. Sometimes i don't understand. After all i'm nothing but one
of those `hmar'(s) (=Donkeys, as one other netter puts it) arabs, am i not? :-)
This time, i understood however, and followed Danny's article with a comment
that complements a previous message i sent to him.

Regardless of which context the ``Weep accusation'' is thrown in,
it is interesting to point it out and highlight it as a method of
intimidation commonly used by some.

Your lines however tell me something about another ``strategy'' adopted
by many people on this net: ``Racist labeling''. Your assumption is that
if you label ``Ralph Winston'' to be a white supremacist, people would
cease to give his words any weight.

You might be right on his attitude, but i prefer discussing the issue rather
than the person (or the label). If you had come up with an argument showing that
some of the facts mentioned in his article are not true (for example), i would
have appreciated more the value of your answer.

>>Have nothing against strategies, but when strategies interfere
>>with ethics, we have a war.
>Please tell me what you think about the 'strategies' of the B-CPU,
>which is a front for white-Supremicist and anti-Semitic hate groups.

Roughly the same thing i think about the strategies used by the government of
Israel whose practices sound like a front for Jewish supremacy and anti-Arab
hate groups.

>
>[4 lines deleted]
>
>Please think before you post and make a fool of yourself again.
>
Thanks for the advice. (Should i tell you what `strategy' your line above
falls under? Ask Danny what is strategy # 2? :-))

>
>Leon Gross
>I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
-- 
George Hassoun
University of Adelaide, EEE Dpt.
Adelaide, South Australia
email: ghassoun@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au      Phone:(08) 228 5468
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA? The Alarming Fats"
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:02:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.113934.27401@odin.diku.dk# case@diku.dk (Steven Kj{r Snedker) writes:

[....]

#PS: It's now 12 o'clock and the flags are being lowered around Copenhagen. 
#52 years ago the Nazis invaded Denmark.

And I take the chance to salute the people of Denmark for their brave 
stand against the Nazis, and the risks they took to save people from
the jaws of death, by helping them flee to safety.

-Danny Keren.
 

From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: THE HOLOCAUST STORY:  HOW MUCH IS FALSE?  The Case for Open Debate
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:10:00 -0500

 >              THE HOLOCAUST STORY:  HOW MUCH IS FALSE?
 >

 LK> How much sense does it make to continue posting this kind of stuff
 LK> again and again. Maybe there is a discussion among the hsitory people

As long as people keep responding to the garbage they post...pro or
con...it makes perfect sense for him to continue to do so...as it has
the desired effect:  an attention getter.





... California raisins murdered! Cereal killer suspected!
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From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA? The Alarming Fats"
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:16:12 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <1992Apr9.140221.20471@cs.brown.edu>, dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr9.113934.27401@odin.diku.dk# case@diku.dk (Steven Kj{r
Snedker) writes:
> 
> [....]
> 
> #PS: It's now 12 o'clock and the flags are being lowered around Copenhagen. 
> #52 years ago the Nazis invaded Denmark.
> 
> And I take the chance to salute the people of Denmark for their brave 
> stand against the Nazis, and the risks they took to save people from
> the jaws of death, by helping them flee to safety.

Yes, the majority of Danes and Norwegians didn't buy the 'Arian super-race'
idea, something which I guess is another conspiracy done by the Zionists.

I would like to know from someone of the Nazi-proposers why an Arian
race invaded and killed other Arians. What was the rationale?

Cheers,
Kent
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From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.discrimination,soc.history,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE HOLOCAUST STORY:  HOW MUCH IS FALSE?  The Case for Open Debate
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:45:29 GMT
Organization: AI Engineering, Amsterdam.

In article <gate.60TyiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP> ralphw@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
>
>From _The Daily Northwestern_
>(Northwestern University's newspaper),
>Thursday, April 4, 1991:
>
>
>              THE HOLOCAUST STORY:  HOW MUCH IS FALSE?
>
>                      The Case for Open Debate
>

How much sense does it make to continue posting this kind of stuff again
and again. Maybe there is a discussion among the hsitory people in what
way the "endlosung" took place, or maybe there is a discussion whether the
nuernberg trials were done in a correct way. But that doesn't deny the facts
that the intention in WWII was to elimanate the Jewish people (and not only
them) and to do this in a very systematic way. Maybe it were 5.5 million
instead of 6 million Jews who were murdered in WWII? But what does it
matter? A lot of people have lost their complete families. Speaking for
the city where I live now, Amsterdam, before WWII there were a lot of
Jewish people linving there and the germans have very well succeeded in
eliminating this community almost completely. 
  And now we have someone like Ralph Winston who continues posting 
articles with very questionable opinions and moreover who places this in
an environment of scientific reliability. His .sig tells everyone
with what kind of person we are dealing.  Freedom of opinion is for me a
very good point but I think he has gone too far. No way to get this man out
of the net? The only thing i can wish too him is a one way trip Dachau 40-45.
No problem for him because he will consider it as nice holiday camp. Most of
us know better fortunately...


>UUCP:  Path (..twiki!b-cpu) "ELIMINATED" BY ZIONIST THOUGHT POLICE!!!
>Users of Banished CPU are solely responsible for their actions.

-- 


                                      louis kossen
                                      amsterdam
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From: ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines
Subject: Re: IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:41:02 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Apr7.165207.23234@cs.brown.edu> dzk@cs.brown.edu
(Danny Keren) writes:
>In article <gate.e30TiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP# ralphw@b-cpu.UUCP
(Ralph Winston) writes:
>
>Hey, Ralphie, read this and WEEP, baby, WEEP!
>

Strategy # 3: ``The weep accusation''

(Hopefully you are following me. At one stage you will
learn a good piece of information about your own
thinking process. )

Have nothing against strategies, but when strategies interfere
with ethics, we have a war.
-- 
George Hassoun
University of Adelaide, EEE Dpt.
Adelaide, South Australia
email: ghassoun@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au      Phone:(08) 228 5468