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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: thoughts for paper presenters
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:21:32 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In a continuing effort to make Usenix papers more worth listening to :-),
some thoughts for the presenter, especially the first-time presenter...
(These are my own opinions as a long-time attendee and sometime presenter,
and don't necessarily reflect the views of Usenix or anybody else.)

Run through your talk at least once in advance so you know how long it
will take.  It probably needs to be cut down.  My talks usually need to
be cut by at least a factor of two.  Doing this in advance is far superior
to improvising when you discover you only have five more minutes.

Say something interesting.  If you're short of time, pick one subtopic
and say something interesting about it, and forget the rest.  Few things
annoy an audience more than hearing "well, the rest of that's in the paper"
every two minutes.  Especially since it usually comes just as you were
starting to talk about something in enough detail to actually be worth
listening to.  If there isn't time to cover everything well, *don't try*.
(This is especially true if you find yourself *unexpectedly* short of
time.  Dashing through half a dozen topics in five minutes means you
can't say anything interesting about any of them.)

Say something your competitors would find fascinating.  If they wouldn't
find your talk interesting, the rest of the audience probably won't either.

Plan your slides for visual content.  Pictures should be worth a thousand
words.  If a slide doesn't make sense shown backwards, it has too many
words and not enough picture -- take it out.
-- 
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       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
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From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.org.sug,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: Re: Novell buys Unix Systems Laboratory
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:56:06 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, or something like that...

In article <1992Dec31.110325.1317@hellgate.utah.edu> hollaar%basset.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Hollaar) writes:
   >p.s.  I've seen code that says "Copyright 1973 Bell Telephone Laboratories
   >Inc".  Under the old copyright law, shouldn't that be expired by now?
   [....]
   Under the transitional provisions of the Copyright Act of 1976, if a
   copyright under the 1909 act was in its first term, it could be renewed
   for second 47 year term (giving a total term of 75 years, the same as
   for anonymous works or works-for-hire under the 1976 Act.)  That means
   that if the copyright owner renewed in 1990 (27 years after 1973), the
   copyright will run until 2037.

Note that, for Unix Operating Systems, 2037 is almost the End Of Time!
:-)  :-)  :-)
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya'
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From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Best computer stores in San Diego area
Organization: ANL A433, Siemens AG., Germany.
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:11:57 GMT

Could anyone post a list of the computer stores that sell notebooks 
in the SD area?

I am especially looking for stores that sell the TI Travelmate 4000.

Thanx

Iain

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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger - Manager, International NeXT User Groups)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: user_groups@next.com

Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO

What it is....

The 2nd annual gathering of the world-wide NeXT community!
	An international Developers Conference!
		An educational Users Conference!
			A NeXTSTEP product exposition!
				A global User Group Meeting!

Call 1-800-767-2336 -or- from outside North America call
(508)470-3880 or fax to (508)470-0526 for registration information.

When it is...      
   
   MAY 25-27, 1993,
       

Where it is...

   THE MOSCONE CENTER,
   SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, USA
            

What to do....

Pass the word.  Tell your colleagues, fellow user group members,
other computer industry user group members, fellow NeXTSTEP
developers, potential developers, and friends, to schedule this date,
and stay tuned for more information!!  Please post this message to
local and community electronic bulletin boards and feel free to
publish in your user group or company newsletters.

Once again, call to get on the mailing list for advanced registration
and more information about the 1993 NeXTWORLD Expo....

1-800-767-2336 -or- from outside North America call 508-470-3880 -or-
fax (508)470-0526.


Conrad Geiger
Manager, International NeXT User Groups
From: whb@att.com (Win Bent)
Subject: Re: thoughts for paper presenters
Expires: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:19:13 GMT
Followup-To:  whb@hoh-2.att.com
Summary: deja vu all over again

In article <C0Hnq5.9DD@visix.com> ken@visix.com writes:
>-->On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:21:32 GMT, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) said:
> Henry> In a continuing effort to make Usenix papers more worth
> Henry> listening to :-), some thoughts for the presenter, especially
> Henry> the first-time presenter...
>Practise in front of the mirror in the hotel room.

It was just a matter of time - a few weeks before Usenix, Henry
reminds us of how to speak to an audience, and someone responds
with the stuff Henry forgot to mention.  Just like clockwork.

Please note that I am NOT against these suggestions!  I, too, have
suffered through bad speakers, and I remember one particularly
scary occasion when I managed to talk too fast and had nothing
to say for the last ten minutes of a half-hour talk...

Perhaps Henry could write up something for the Usenix program
committees to give to the authors of accepted papers or put in
the "how to submit a paper" packet or something.

-- 
Wilson H. Bent, Jr.		whb@hoh-2.ATT.COM
AT&T - Bell Laboratories	(908) 888-7129
Disclaimer: My company has not authorized me to issue a disclaimer.
From: ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: USENIX Winter '93 Bird of a Feather (BOF) Sessions
Keywords: USENIX, Conference, BOFs
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:41:28 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley


Current Listing of Birds of a Feather Sessions Scheduled for the
USENIX San Diego Conference - January 25 - 29, 1993
(as of 6/8/93)

TUESDAY, JANUARY 26

6 - 8pm		NIS+:  An Enterprise Naming Service
		Lou Delzompo, SunSoft, Inc.

6 - 8pm		Standards
		Jeff Haemer, Canary Software

6 - 8pm		Heterogeneous Network Backup & Recovery 
		 Ranga Rangachari, Legato Systems

8 -10pm		GBLIC
		 Lee Damon

8 - 10pm	GNU Project (GNU's not UNIX)
		 Richard Stallman, Free Software Foundation

8 - 10pm	386 BSD Update
		 Chris Demetriou, Univ. of CA - Berkeley


WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27

6 - 8pm		Solaris for X86 Platforms
		 Kuljeet Kalkat, SunSoft

6 - 8pm		Converting Applications to Use Threads
		Bill Cox, Unix System Lab

6 - 8pm		Works-in-Progress Sessions
		 To schedule - Contact Lisa Bloch at lab@usenix@org

6 - 8pm		LISA
		 Bjorn Satdeva, /sys/admin, inc.

7 - 8pm		UUNET 
		 Rick Adams, UUNET Technologies

7 - 8pm		Epoch Systems:  Product Updates & Customer Feedback
		 Neil Webber, Epoch Systems
8 - 9pm		BSDI
		 Rob Kolstad, BSDI

9 - 10pm	A Report on 4.4BSD
		 Kirk McKusickx, Univ of CA - Berkeley;  Keith Bostic

8 - 10pm	SAGE Open Board Meeting
		 Elizabeth Zwicky, SRI

8 - 10pm	AT&T 3B1/7300 Users Gathering
		 David Brierley, Raytheon

8 - 10pm	Tcl and Tk
		 John Ousterhout, Univ. of CA - Berkeley



THURSDAY, JANUARY 28

8 - 9pm		CERT Update
		 Ed DeHart, CERT

8 - 10pm	Netnews and Usenet
		 Henry Spencer, Univ. of Toronto

9 - 10pm	Internet Firewalls
		 Brent Chapman, Great Circle Associaties
From: muller@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Keith Muller)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Should I bring my wellies to Usenix ?
Summary: pack those wellies
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:49:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.43402

In article <1isn5j$mri@agate.berkeley.edu>, jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) writes:
> 
> Even during most of the rains, what a southern Californian would call
> a heavy rain, most people from wetter parts of the world would call a
> light rain.  It really hasn't been all that much rain by the standards
> of most places.

The Town and Country hotel is in Mission Valley right in the middle of an
ancient river bed. The roads in that area are designed to flood. When the
rain stops, pumps clear out all the water (the roads stay washed out until the
rain stops). It is really bad right between the Town and Country and the
Fashion Valley Mall (right behind the hotel). It is not what comes down that
is bad, it is that all the water drains down right behind the hotel. The ground
is saturated and when it rains now flooding starts right away (it is raining
again as I write this on Jan 12). You really needed a boat down there last week.
If you are going to do any significant walking outside the hotel, those wellies
might be nice to have.

Keith Muller
University of California, San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil (John de la Garrigue)
Subject: Re: CD & LD stores in San Diego???
Reply-To: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil
Organization: Science Applications International Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:52:48 GMT

In article 27363@clouso.crim.ca, turmel@fouinard.crim.ca (Richard Turmel) writes:
>
>Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could suggest me
>a couple of good stores where I could find Compact Disks
>and Laser Disks in the San Diego area.  I'm looking for
>importation mostly.
>
>Directions from the Town & Country Hotel would be appreciated.
>
>Thank you
>
>Richard Turmel

Oh my lord, where do I begin? :)  It seems that while driving around town, I 
run into a music store every few blocks.  They're all over the place.  Since
you are from Canada, I will (maybe incorrectly?) assume you don't know much
about US music stores - they also carry videos, and video disks.  Look in the
Yellow Pages phone book for: the Wherehouse, Tower Records, Music Plus, and no
end of smaller boutique stores.  From Hotel Circle (where the Town & Country is)
look for the Mission Valley shopping mall - that's probably the closest.  However,
if you go to University Town Center (north on I-5 to La Joll Village Dr, turn right
and look for the Nordstroms) you'll find a Wherehouse.  There's a Tower Reocrds
near the Sports Arena near Pt Loma.  Go to Hazard Center, next to the Red Lion
hotel (I-5 and 163 interchange, off Friar's Road east), which is also very close to 
Hotel Circle - there's a Wherehouse there, as well as one of my favorite sports
bars, Trophy's; a large theater complex; and Tony Roma's if you like BBQ.

These are just a few of the places you can try.  The major music stores carry a
huge array of music and video disks, so you should be able to find imports there.
There's a boutique store in downtown La Jolla (hard to describe how to get there,
so I won't - ask the desk people at the hotel) that specializes in non-mainstream
CDs.  Sorry, the name eludes me.  Worth looking for though - it's next to the
Comedy Store.

Have fun!


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My views are not necessarily those of my employer, the US government,
or anyone else for that matter.

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From: tal@warren.mentorg.com (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: USENIX Winter '93 Bird of a Feather (BOF) Sessions
Date: 9 Jan 1993 17:31:11 -0500
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group, Warren, NJ
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp
Keywords: USENIX, Conference, BOFs

In <1280@usenix.ORG> ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young) writes:


>TUESDAY, JANUARY 26

[...]

>8 -10pm		GBLIC
>		 Lee Damon

GBLIC is Gays, Bisexuals, and Lesbians In Computing.  In the past this
has been very well attended.  (straight people are invited, of course.
In fact, I think they get more out of seeing the panel talk than anyone
else!)

I'm sure that if Lee had net access this week (he's switching jobs) he
would have posted this explanation.

-Tom

P.S.  I can't make it this conference.  See ya in the summer, folks!

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/ I try to please his eyes / his idol eyes. / Jerking motions won't revive him
/ mouth to mount resusitation / I just lay down beside him / and idolize.
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: thoughts for paper presenters
Organization: The World
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:43:31 GMT


From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
>Henry's points are well-worth attending to. But what about the audience
>and their questions? [I recall a fascinating, albeit somewhat sarcastic
>summary by Barry Shein... Barry? ;-)]

I never read what I write, there's no point in every one of us being
bored.

(seriously, I don't think I saved the message you're referring to, but
I do remember it vaguely.)

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil (John de la Garrigue)
Subject: Re: Best computer stores in San Diego area
Reply-To: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil
Organization: Science Applications International Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:43:19 GMT

In article 51@anl433.uucp, Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp () writes:
>Could anyone post a list of the computer stores that sell notebooks 
>in the SD area?
>
>I am especially looking for stores that sell the TI Travelmate 4000.
>

Try CompUSA in Clairemont/Kearney Mesa - 163 north to Clairemont Mesa Drive, 
turn right off the offramp, and make the next right at the signal - I *think*
that's Kearney Mesa Drive.  Anyway, it's up that street (north), on the left - a
big building, it's hard to miss.

>Thanx
>

S'allright.

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Science Applications International Corp. (SAIC)  ||  

My views are not necessarily those of my employer, the US government,
or anyone else for that matter.

Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: Summary of USENIX Board of Directors Meeting
Keywords: USENIX, Board Meeting
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:41:05 GMT

In <1281@usenix.ORG> ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young) writes:
>O'Dell expressed concern that membership was flat.
Yes -- I have been saying we should do some kind of outreach stuff
for some time now.

>USENIX Lifetime Achievement Award
What a cool idea!

>possibility of making SUG an STG associated with USENIX
What an interesing idea.  Nice to bring Peter back into the fold. :-)

>It was decided to:  1) eliminate default complimentary registration 
>for speakers
Bummer.

>Johnson felt we need to do something about NT.
Firebomb?  More seriously, nice to see the Board trying to jump ahead
of the bandwagon on this one.

>After discussion, it was decided to send the following letter regarding 
>the USL/UCB lawsuit:
Excellent letter, great idea.
	/r$
From: ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Correction to Posting on SAGE Board Elections
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:58:33 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley


SAGE Election Results

Below is a correction to the information previously supplied 
concerning Terms of the newly-elected SAGE Board of Directors.

In this first election, 6 directors were elected (below).  
In this first year, 3 members were elected for 2-year terms (top 
3 vote getters), and 3 members elected for 1-year terms (next 
3 vote getters).  In deference to a strong desire by the
USENIX Board of Directors for continuity, it was agreed that
Elizabeth Zwicky, the interim president appointed in 1992, will
automatically serve her remaining one-year term on the first elected 
board.  In subsequent elections, alternately three and four 
members will be chosen for two-year terms.

The SAGE Board of Directofs will choose its own officers after
each general elections (every year).  

---------------------------------------------------------------
Directors: 
Elected for 1993 & 1994, two year term

Steve Simmons	118
Pat Parseghian	115
Peg Schafer	111

Directors:
Elected for 1993, one year term

Pat Wilson	107
Carol Kubicki	103
Paul Moriarty	 99

Appointed Director: Elizabeth Zwicky - Past President
From: turmel@fouinard.crim.ca (Richard Turmel)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: CD & LD stores in San Diego???
Keywords: cd, ld, stores
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: turmel@crim.ca
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique de Montreal


Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could suggest me
a couple of good stores where I could find Compact Disks
and Laser Disks in the San Diego area.  I'm looking for
importation mostly.

Directions from the Town & Country Hotel would be appreciated.

Thank you

Richard Turmel
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From: carolyn@usenix.ORG (Carolyn Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix,comp.org.sug,comp.org.uniforum,comp.unix.large,comp.unix.admin,comp.os.misc,comp.misc
Subject: USENIX Winter 1993 Technical Conference - Current BOF Schedule
Keywords: USENIX Association
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:15:55 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley


                   Current Listing of

               Birds of a Feather Sessions

                   Scheduled for the

     USENIX San Diego Conference - January 25 - 29, 1993
_______________________________________________________________


TUESDAY, JANUARY 26

6 - 8pm		NIS+:  An Enterprise Naming Service
		Lou Del Zompo, SunSoft, Inc.

6 - 8pm		Standards
		Jeff Haemer, Canary Software


WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27

6 - 8pm		Solaris for X-86 Platforms
		 Kuljeet Kalkat, SunSoft

6 - 8pm		Converting Applications to Use Threads
		Bill Cox, Unix System Lab

6 - 8pm		Works-in-Progress Sessions
		 To schedule -
                           Contact Lisa Bloch at lab@usenix@org

8 - 9pm		BSDI
		 Rob Kolstad, BSDI

9pm - 10pm	A Report on 4.4BSD
		 Kirk McKusick, Keith Bostic

8 - 10pm	SAGE Open Board Meeting
		 Elizabeth Zwicky, SRI

8 - 10pm	Tcl and Tk
		 John Ousterhout, Univ. of CA - Berkeley

THURSDAY, JANUARY 28

9 - 11pm	Schedule open

_______________________________________________________________


BIRDS-OF-A-FEATHER (BOF) SESSIONS
Tuesday		January 26	6:00 pm -10:00 pm
Wednesday	January 27	6:00 pm -10:00 pm
Thursday	January 28	8:00 pm -11:00 pm


If you wish to set up a BOF session please contact:

USENIX Association
Conference Office
22672 Lambert St., Suite 613
El Toro, CA  92630
Telephone (714) 588-8649 
FAX: (714) 588-9706
From: dsseewe@sgids5.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dan Seewer)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Info on USENIX Symposium?
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:14:06 GMT

Does anyone have more information on the USENIX Symposium: UNIX
Applications Development?  I am looking for a list of the planned
presentations, tutorials, invited talks, etc.

Thanks!

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        author and in no way reflect the views of my employer!

Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: lindy@olsen.ch (Lindy Foster)
Subject: Books store in San Diego area
Organization: Olsen & Associates, Zurich, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:20:21 GMT

I haven't been to San Diego in ages and ages, and coming so far, I want to
make a big book store run.  I need Technical books, books on art 
history/theory, linguistics, fiction, and nonfiction.  Can anyone recommend
bookstores to me (especially anywhere near the Town & Country Hotel)?

Thanks,

			*lindy*

lindy@olsen.ch
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: ken@visix.com (Ken Mayer)
Subject: Re: thoughts for paper presenters
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: ken@visix.com
Organization: Visix Software Inc., Reston, VA

-->On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:21:32 GMT, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) said:

 Henry> In a continuing effort to make Usenix papers more worth
 Henry> listening to :-), some thoughts for the presenter, especially
 Henry> the first-time presenter...

 Henry> Run through your talk at least once in advance ...

Practise in front of the mirror in the hotel room. It may look funny,
but you'll get a much better idea of how you "present" yourself (do
you wave your hands around, etc.); you'll be much less self conscious. 

 Henry> Say something interesting.

Yes. Absolutely. One thing everyone should keep in mind: All of us can
read.  [I hope!] I would prefer to hear something that you didn't put
in the paper because it didn't fit in, or maybe that war story you've
been dying to tell. Add some color. That's not the same as fluff.
Papers have a tendancy to report the results of an investigation.  I
personally find the history behind the research fascinating and it
gives me a much better understanding of what's going on.

Ken

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Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
Subject: Re: thoughts for paper presenters
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:49:42 GMT


Henry's points are well-worth attending to. But what about the audience
and their questions? [I recall a fascinating, albeit somewhat sarcastic
summary by Barry Shein... Barry? ;-)]

oz
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