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From: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Vendors & Usenet (was Re: VersaTerm)
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:36:41 GMT
Reply-To: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

In article <sdorner-040193112434@dorner.slip.uiuc.edu>, sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
>
>Yes, Kurt runs a company that sells software that competes with others. 
>Yes, Kurt sometimes points out where he thinks his company's software is
>better than others. This time, he didn't even mention his product by name,
>and we all know there is a selection of software that fits his description
>(like PacerTerm and NCSA Telnet) of software designed "with the network in
>mind", so I don't even think it's fair to say "we know he meant his own
>product".
>
Well, I do think it is fair to say "we know he meant his own product."  I have
seen Kurt's postings around here for several years and he *always* means his 
own product when he says "there are other products out there that do
<whatever> better." 

>Listen, folks, you can't have your cake and eat it, too.  If the vendors
>are going to be here to answer questions and listen to us, then they can
>hardly be expected to not say good things about their own products.
>
I too appreciate vendors who are here to answer questions about their products.
But I have seen a big difference between Kurt and people from other companies.
People from other companies look for people who have complaints/questions
about their company's products, then attempt to address those issues.  Kurt
looks for people who have complaints about *anyone else's* products, then
attempts to plug Intercon's software as a solution.  To me, this is acting
in bad faith and borders on violating Usenet guidelines to not "sell" products
on technical newsgroups.

I feel qualified to make this statement, since I was one of the people who was
in on the VersaTerm thread from the beginning.  Someone commented on the lack
of multiple windows in VersaTerm and I agreed that it would be nice if they
added this capability.  I did *not* say: "Are there any other telnet clients
out there that provide multiple windows?"  I already know about TCP/Connect II
and NCSA Telnet.  But the fact remains, I like a whole lot of things about
VersaTerm and will continue to use it whether they add this feature or not.
Kurt's comment to buy another package was not solicited and thus not 
appreciated.

All of the above is just my HO of course.
-Robin
******************************************************************************
Robin Goldstone, Systems Software Specialist                   ____
California State University, Chico  Computing Services         \  /
rgoldstone@oavax.csuchico.edu                                   \/
                                                       Closets are for clothes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: NCSA Telnet questions
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:18:38 GMT

SS> == Scot Salmon <scot@jlc.mv.com>

 SS> 1) In this office, we have a Mac IIci which runs Telnet just dandy and
 SS>    a Mac Plus across the room which does not.  The Plus is definately on
 SS>    the same network (shares the printer, etc) and is connected through the
 SS>    SCSI port via Asante's EN/SC.  We're trying to use the exact same setup
 SS>    that works on the IIci, to no avail.  Any clues?

Are you using MacTCP?  What version?  If it's 1.1, install the "Plus patch"
(it's somewhere on ftp.apple.com).

 SS> 2) Same office, except now we're looking at a Duo in another part of the
 SS>    room.  The Duo is connected to the Plus via LocalTalk and the Apple
 SS>    Internet Router and is therefore in a different zone from the IIci.
 SS>    The Duo won't Telnet, either.  Is it possible to make this setup work.

The Apple "Internet" Router doesn't do TCP/IP.  You lose.  Get a GatorBox,
FastPath, or the like (a Duo Dock and an Ethernet card if you can afford it
and find the dock...)
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Vendors & Usenet (was Re: VersaTerm)
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 1993 11:08:41 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1b31

There are conflicting forces here.

On the one hand, we get a lot of good will and not a few customers as a 
result of our presence on the net, here and in other groups less directly 
related to our product line.  Unlike many companies, we are happy to give 
official answers to questions or clarifications about our products via news 
or email, rather than surrounding everything with disclaimers and pointing 
everyone at our sales department for concrete information.

On the other hand, most of us have been around Usenet for almost a decade, 
and are all too aware of how annoying it can be when a person or company uses 
it as their own private soapbox.  As a result, we honestly do our best to 
remain within the bounds of propriety and common courtesy in the process.  

The problem is that precisely where this line should be drawn is different 
for every person.  I'll be the first to admit that Kurt pushes it sometimes--
there are I times when I'm reading through the Mac groups and wince :).  I 
must say, though, that he honestly tries to help, even if he sometimes comes 
across as a bit of a cheerleader.

How many software companies take the time to read the net and pay attention 
to what people want and complain about?  My own feeling is "not enough" :)...

DISCLAIMER: Kurt's office is four doors down the hall from mine.  I'm not
an unbiased observer of InterCon, by any means.



Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: Mail to cpmpuServe.
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:03:12 GMT

In <1993Jan5.122022.1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> t303grey@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:


>  Is it possible to mail to CompuServe Address from internet?

I would have thought this would be in every FAQ of every newsgroup 
by now.

If the Compu$erve account number is 12345,6789, then the way for you
to address that person is 12345.6789@compuserve.com.  Note the period
substituted for the comma.


-- 
Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: alain@linguist.jussieu.fr ()
Subject: Re: Telnet 2.5 & non-US keyboard
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:34:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.164139.38662@nenufar.saclay.cea.fr>, Jean-Michel
Mignot <mignot@bali.saclay.cea.fr> wrote:
> 
> I have just downloaded Telnet 2.5 and it seems that it does not recognize
> my French keyboard (of course, this may just be implied by " VT ###
> emulation"). Turning on the "System KCHR" option does not help. Is there
> any solution?

The answer (at least for 2.4.19) is to use ResEdit to remove the KCHR 
resource in Telnet that overrides the system KCHR.

Alain de Cheveigne,
alain@linguist.jussieu.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Re: MacTCP problems on slow links?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:16:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.150116.8114@ornl.gov>, Jamey Maze <jnm@ornl.gov>
wrote:
> TCP point of view. Yesterday, I read where someone said "MacTCP 1.1 and
> 1.1.1 both have problems with slow links, but 1.1.1's are less severe."
> (I'm using 1.1.1.) 

TCP uses a round-trip time estimation to decide when to retransmit; if data
isn't acknowledged within the appropriate time, the packet is
retransmitted.  A good TCP will base this time on the connection's
behavior; if packets are "usually" acknowledged "quickly", the timeout will
be "short".  If packets are "usually" acknowledged "slowly", the timeout
will be "long".  (All words in quotes are to be taken as highly relative.) 
The problem with older versions of MacTCP is that they were unwilling to
set the timeout high enough to reflect the very high latency of a SLIP
connection, leading to many unnecessary retransmits.  Unfortunately, this
is a problem that can feed on itself; the unnecessary retransmits lead to
even higher latency, which leads to more retransmits, etc.

I dunno about the occasional 15-second pause.  *Might* be a big burst of
garbage on the phone line, causing lots of LAPM retransmits, or even
retraining.  I'm not a TCP guru, so I can't speculate on what might be
going wrong from the TCP point of view.
--
Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.
From: wilhelm@infoserv.com (John MacWilliamson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Duo Modems
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:33:12 PST
Reply-To: >>
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1993Jan10.231808.17376@cujo.curtin.edu.au> (comp.sys.mac.comm), ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor) writes:
>What's the word on Internal Modems for the PowerBook Duos..
>
>Are there any in production yet, and what is there to choose from ??
>
>Ken


     You currently have one choice:  Apple Express Modem.  But unless
you are a developer who can convince Apple that you are working on
a product important to the Duo, and specifically to the Duo's modem,
you can't get one.  

    Maybe some day...

John MacW
wilhelm@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Ray Zimmerman <rz10@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: What in MacX 1.1.7 doesn't work under system 7.1 (seems to work)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A771B2255F01E0B5@ziklag.ee.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 7 Jan 93 15: 10:45 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rz10@cornell.edu
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:02:16 GMT

In article <diessel-070193142226@macthomas.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de>
Thomas Diessel, diessel@marthe.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de writes:
>Which version of MacTCP do you use, 1.1 or 1.1.1?

I use 1.1.1.

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                          \ Cornell University, Ithaca NY  14853
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From: jpm@cs.hut.fi (Jussi-Pekka Mantere)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Want a Mac front end for VMS Mail
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:09:55 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
NNTP-Posting-Host: cardhu.cs.hut.fi
In-reply-to: reuber@world.std.com's message of Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:25:34 GMT

kent b reuber <reuber@world.std.com> writes:

   I have a user who wants some sort of front end for VMS mail.

Ask your Digital sales rep for info about PATHWORKS for Macintosh,
which comes with a Macintosh client to VMS Mail.

Cheers,

Jussi-Pekka Mantere
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bobley@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Brett Bobley)
Subject: (Q) Looking for TCP/IP Ping Program?
Summary: I am looking for a TCP/IP Ping program for the Mac
Keywords: TCP/IP, Network, Ping
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:20:03 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a shareware/freeware "Ping" 
program for the Mac?  I am running MACTCP and I'd like to
be able to have a way to "Ping" an IP address to see if
I am able to reach it.

thanks,

Brett Bobley
Internet:  bobley@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Gary  Truemner <truemner@rd.hydro.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Sharing modems over a network
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-XXMessage-ID: <A76F339EBB01C8B9@pc-truemner.rd.hydro.on.ca>
Organization: ONTARIO HYDRO Research Lab
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:50:34 GMT
X-XXDate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 12:46:22 GMT

In article <1i7hstINNjks@shelley.u.washington.edu> unknown,
chunder@byron.u.washington.edu writes:
>RE: sharing modem on Appletalk:     Asante Inc. sell a utility called
"Intershare"
which works in background from Mac with modem attached....$100.-200.
Canadian.
HIghly reccommended...although VersaTermPRO communication software is one
of
few that enable "Apple modem tool" driver required to select Intershare
from
Chooser.  VersaTermPro v3.6.2 also has SLIP utility which enables modem
link
to UNIX network server. AND wait for Apple Remote Access sfwe. which
promises
to do many things for remote user...


---------      |         |
|          |      ---------     Gary Truemner.ONTARIO HYDRO.Automated
NDT&Welding
|          |      |         |      R&D Lab.800 Kipling.m/s
KR172.Toronto.(416) 207 6380          
---------                       _from a Never Ending Story believer.avoid
the NOTHING
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Lars Andersen <rodgrim@imv.aau.dk>
Subject: Re: NFS for Mac
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7733C64A00212F7@unicorn.imv.aau.dk>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 14:12:52 GMT
Organization: Information and Mediascience Aarhus University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:10:51 GMT

Subject: Re: NFS for Mac

In article <1993Jan8.080557.21434@iti.gov.sg> Chang Chen Hsien,
chchang@ncb.gov.sg writes:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know that is there a NFS driver for Mac, so that
>I can use my Mac to mount a NFS from the Unix station ?
>
>Thanks !
>
>Chen Hsien


Yes there exists such programs. I have found these in
"Network solutions Guide" from Apple.

"NFS/Share" from  
InterCon Systems Corporation
950 Herndon Parkway
Herndon, VA 22070
(703) 709-9890

and 

"PathWay Client NFS for Macontosh"
The Wollongong Group, Inc.
1129 San Antonio Road
Palo Alto, CA 94303
(415) 952-7100


But I just read about them because I also need to find a NFS 
program. Therefore I would be very grateful if anyone who own
any of these programs would comment them. Also I would appre-
ciate if there should be a emailaddress for the compagnies I'd
like to hear.

Thanks. Lars Andersen.


Lars Andersen, Information and Mediascience, University of Aarhus 
Email: rodgrim@imv.aau.dk,  Phone: +45 86136711 ext. 171
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From: degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu (Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Driver for a Kinetics EtherPort II
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:47:51 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bmsrs.usc.edu

I have a Kinetics EtherPort II board on loan.  The driver, however, dosen't
work with System 7.0.1/1.1.1  Could someone post or email me the most recent
driver?  I really don't think that this will violate any liscence agreement --
The board can't be used in two computers at once and it's just being used as a 
demo for a couple of days. 

Thanks.


-- 

Ray (DJ) DeGennaro II
degennar@scf.usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Chris ODonovan)
Subject: Re: HELP, Can't unbinhex telnetted files
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: McMaster University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:24:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.010933.16617@csus.edu>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P.
Scott) wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan11.170811.20021@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
> 	Chris O'Donovan <odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca> writes:
> >FTP on VAX is screwey. It's probably possible to overcome
> >its problems, but I would look for a different server
> 
> Come off it.  There are several different software
> implementations, and only one (UCX) is remarkably poor.
> Neither the VAX architecture nor the VMS operating system is to
> blame.
> 
> 					-=EPS=-

Well Eric, I seem to remember the problem was that VMS had different file
formats (sequential and fixed record length or something like that), and to
get a file via VAX (i.e. from UNIX to VAX to UNIX) you had to do some
contortions in the middle.

I avoid VMS like the plague. Anyway, it's a dead architecture (this may
look like flame bait, but it's my honest opinion, so no flames please).

Regards,

Chris ODonovan

odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Chris O'Donovan <odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: Re: bulletin board software?
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:01:52 GMT
Organization: McMaster University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:13:42 GMT

In article <C0IExH.JEq@plato.ds.boeing.com> Kevin
housen/.na, housen@plato.ds.boeing.com writes:
>Are there any low-cost or PD bulletin board systems
>available for the Mac?  Also, what's needed in terms
>of hardware?

I think that the best Mac BBS system is FirstClass. It has
an Internet mail gateway, Usenet news, works on any Mac
with a modem and over Appletalk, conferencing and lots
more stuff.

They also have user group and educational discounts, and
the client software (which is fully Mac-like i.e. no
command line) is freely distributable (try "archie -s
firstclass" to find the latest version).

Luck,

Chris O'Donovan

odonovan@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca
From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Flat-file newsreaders
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:51:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

>Are there any free- or share- ware newsreaders for the mac
>which can be used with uucp? The faq only listed uAccess.
>
>Can anyone suggest a reasonable substitute?

As far as newsreaders per se, the best one available to date is rnMac.
It should be available in the /info-mac anonymous-FTP directories at
SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu.  I don't know whether Roy's latest update has
made it there yet.

In addition to a newsreader, you'll also need some sort of
news-decompression/unbatching/filing/expiring tools.  One such program
is in beta-test, but I don't know when it's due to be released
officially [and, before you ask... the author is reluctant to send out
additional beta-test copies, because he was being swamped with
requests.]

Hang in there - Godot will arrive soon, I hope!
-- 
Dave Platt                                                VOICE: (415) 813-8917
              Domain: dplatt@ntg.com      UUCP: ...netcomsv!ntg!dplatt
 USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2470 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: hyerstay@cybermac.sadye.emba.uvm.edu (Jason Hyerstay)
Organization: Adrenaline Online, (802) 425-2332, a FirstClass system
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 10:06:45 EST
Subject: Re: RE: Update: Best, cheapest 14.4 modem

 HM> To the acolytes, this modem performs flawlessly with ARA, datacom 
 HM> programs, and FAX.

> Will it work with ARA when the FAX init is on?  That is, does it recognize
> the difference between an incoming modem call and an incoming fax call --
> I didn't think that any faxmodem did that?

Well, if you get (and can figure out) LineShare, from (I believe) the same guy
that wrote PortShare, you can do just what you said. It is on sumex, in the
demos, I think.
- jason

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: pgiltner@epas.utoronto.ca (Philip W. Giltner Jr.)
Subject: QuickComm Spirit II
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:42:32 GMT

I got a pretty good deal on a QuickComm Spirit II 14.4 fax modem,
which I am using with no problems as a data modem with my Mac. The
only problem I am having is trying to get it to work properly as a
faxmodem. I've purchased FAXstf, which is billed as a "hardware
independant library of power fax software for the macintosh."

However, there is no provision for the QuickComm Spirit II in the
installer. The folks @ FAXstf say that if only I could tell them the
Chipset & ROM, perhaps I could install it ok. The folks @ QuickComm
repeatedly failed to answer my direct question about the Chipset &
ROM. Now what am I to do? Is there anyone out there who knows anything
about the Chipset & ROM?

Is there another solution? Please respond via email, as I don't
usually post or read this group...

Thanks.
Phil
pgiltner@epas.utoronto.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm