Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:29:39 EDT
From: <PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>   Andronikos Romanos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Serbo-Croatian and Greco-Bulgarian "stuff"...

Svilen Tzonev (svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu)  wrote in  Sun, 27 Sep
1992 23:02:09 GMT:

> Milan Pavlovic writes:
>
>>  In article <1992Sep24.165423.5261@sunbim.be> sk@sunbim.be ()
>>  writes:
>>
>>>  MACEDONIAN INFORMATION AND LIAISON SERVICE ESTABLISHED!
>>> -wide distribution of Macedonian "news" in a number of fields
>>>  through an international media network, including electronic
>>>  media.
>>> -liaison with the  lobbying  of important government represe-
>>>  ntatives, diplomats, organisations and individuals, in rela-
>>>  tion to vital Macedonian issues and interests.
>>> -providing a resource of information materials  for distribu-
>>>  tion to interested parties.
>>
>> This is an  open letter  to  all of my Greek Orthodox brothers
>> and sisters around the world.
>> As you can see by the above text,  the Skopjans have created a
>> professional propaganda group  which will  disseminate Skopjan
>> propaganda all over the world.  Greeks!  Don't let this go un-
>> challenged!
>> Just look at what happened with us Serbs.  We didn't get orga-
>> nized in time. We had no PR. The Croats,on the other hand,have
>> invested well over $17 million in their propaganda.  They sent
>> a group of 200 young Canadian and US born Croatian media aides
>> to Zagreb in the spring of 1991. This group was armed with fax
>> machines and photocopiers,and they alone influenced the repor-
>> ting of the Western media regarding the happenings in Yugosla-
>> via.
>> As a result, Croatia got recognized and the entire Serbian na-
>> tion has been villified. We Serbs have only begun to get orga-
>> nized recently on the serious PR stuff,  with  the creation of
>> SerbNet. However, we have payed dearly for not getting organi-
>> zed sooner. It is very hard now to change our current image of
>> "war mongerers" in the Western media.
>> My Greek friends!   I  don't want to see you get into the same
>> trouble.  Don't let  the  Skopjans spread their propaganda all
>> over the world.  You too must set up information centers which
>> will disseminate  the truth about the happenings regarding the
>> Skopjan Republic.  Don't let yourselves be pushed into the de-
>> fensive corner, like Serbia has been pushed...
>>                                                      Regards,
>>                                                      Milan
>>===============================================================
>>               M A C E D O N I A  =  H E L L A S
>>===============================================================
>>
> BRAVO Mr. Pavlovic!
> Maybe your next appeal will look like:
> "Fellow orthodox greeks - it's high time to divide Macedonia!
  ::::::::::::::::               ::::::::::   ::::::
> MACEDONIA =  HELLAS + SOUTH SERBIA" ?
  :::::::::  ::       ::
> very curious, Svilen

Mr. Pavlovic has written some things about Skopjie and the Serbo-
Croatian relations. If you have any objections to the accuracy of
his remarks please point them out.  Personally, I cannot disprove
them. You?
(I remember a remarkably-close broadcast on the US media with the
 Canado-Croatians some 3 mounts ago.. As far as the Scopjian pro-
 paganda is concerned one can enumerate several things... Is this
 where you focus your remarks or the "bravo" ?

There is another thing though that, I feel, I must remind you:
Mr.Pavlovic has been very consistent over the  "Macedonia=Hellas"
notion  for a long time now,  and  I have every reason to believe
that he uses the term  referring to  MAKEDONIA  (which is clearly
within the current Greek frontier).

You have been around for quite some time to understand that  YOUR
proposition would be   u n a c c e p t a b l e  by the Greeks for
a bunch of reasons out of which I will stretch two:
--> Your sentence makes no sense in the  "Greek vocabulary" since
    Macedonia is NOT..." Greece + (something else)."
    So,  Mr.Pavlovic  who is a very eloquent speaker and wants to
    pass himself across would never write something that his par-
    ticular audience wouldn't understand...
    Should Milan ever imagine to write what you (and other Bulga-
    rians probably) propose,  his Greek friends  would infer that
    the fellow netter wants to divide  Northern Greece between...
    Greece and Serbia ! ! !   :-)
    Your sentence "friend",ALL that MAY succeed in, is to impress
    a couple of other non-Balkan-nationalities,who may not be ve-
    ry familiar with the matters in the neighborhood..and get the
    w r o n g  idea (which I'll explain in a minute).
--> YOUR proposition  (and not Milan's)  can very well be percei-
    ved as highly  disingenuous "friend",  for it clearly implies
    that Greece entertains military plans of "some" intervention;
    and considered (in an indefinite point in the past)  an inva-
    sion scenario! (Notice the words I underlined: "High time"...
    "divide",  Why?  Was there a plan before Svilen? )

> "Fellow orthodox greeks - it's high time to divide Macedonia!
  ::::::::::::::::               ::::::::::   ::::::
> MACEDONIA =  HELLAS + SOUTH SERBIA" ?
  :::::::::  ::       ::

If there is a positive response here please give us the name of a
single Greek politician (from the party of your choice)  who ever
suggested something like that...
Please,in this effort,don't be confused by other Balkan nation(s)
who had  no problem  whatsoever in siding with a particular Axis,
say in the last 50 yrs, provided it (they) would receive portions
of  its  two  neighbors'  territories  and  "share"  them  in the
c o n t e x t   ( and region )  you  just  described!
                                                        A.Romanos