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From: raymond@nic.cerf.net (Raymond Roque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: restricted ftp account
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:50:56 GMT
Organization: CERFnet



Dear/Madam:

I'm trying to setup a restricted ftp login account with the use of the "chroot" command. I'm still new to this and need some help.

I got some notes in the Internet on setting it up

I created a subdirectory /var/spool/rftp.  Underneat it was the following directories: bin, dev, usr, /usr/lib, tmp, and etc.  
This will be my new root.  

I then copied ls, pwd, and mkdir from /bin to /var/spool/rftp/bin.  Copied the passwd and group file into /var/spool/rftp/etc 
and edited out the other accounts with password. 

Since I'm using a Sun Station, I created the /dev/zero files 
and copied /usr/lib/lib.so* to ~rftp/usr/lib.

Added the line "rftp   22/tcp" on my /etc/services NIS map file. 
Typed "rftp   stream   tcp   nowait   root    /etc/in.rftpd   in.ftpd" on my /etc/inetd.conf file and issue kill -HUP pid of inetd to reset the network deamons.

Following the short note, I then typed the shell script it told me into a file /etc/in.rftpd

 #!/bin/sh 
 /usr/etc/chroot /var/spool/rftp /usr/etc/in.ftpd $* 

Lastly, in the /etc/passwd and /var/spool/rftp/etc/passwd files - I created an account:
  testacct:*:160:60:FTP account:/var/spool/rftpd:/etc/in.rftp

But when I logged into the ftp account, it gave me a message
"530 User testacct Access denied".

I noticed that when I boot up my machine and the inetd deamon starts, it flags me "rftpd/tcp: service unknown" even when it was define in the /etc/services file.

The note also mentioned to "give them (ftp account) a shell that is in /var/spool/rftp/etc/shells.  
My entry in this file are:
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh

Can you please explain more on this please?  

There is probably a simple step that I neglected to do.

Sincerely,
Raymond Roque

Systems Administrator
International Documentation
From: dhesi@rahul.net (Rahul Dhesi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun vs. Solbourne console speed
Date: 12 Dec 92 10:24:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: a2i network

In <15848@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:

>The OPEN PROM monitor's screen-painting code is FORTH code, and the
>FORTH interpreter, on some of the machines with OPEN PROM monitors, is
>executed either out of ROM or out of RAM that's mapped non-cacheable, I
>forget which.  In any case, that means the screen-painting code isn't
>going to run screamingly fast.

This explain *how* Sun made the console driver slow, but not *why*.
-- 
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also:  dhesi@cirrus.com
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From: harlan@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Magnus Harlander)
Subject: Re: Database directed system administration ??
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:21:11 GMT

krienke@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Rainer Krienke) writes:

>We are looking for a database based system for (unix-) workstation 
>administration. 
>Using this databasesystem we want eg. to be able to add new users to our
>system, or new workstations to our net. 
>The modification of the data contained in the database schould then trigger
>the appropriate actions.
>Does anyone know about such a system, or has anyone experience with such a
>database ?
>Thanks in advandce

We at GeNUA mbH are working with a database oriented system (still text and 
ascii Files) that does almost everything automatically (users, hosts, printers, 
disks, ...). It is not released yet since documentation is still missing, and 
interfaces have to be cleaned up. However we find it pretty useful for our
work with our customers.

\Magnus
--
Magnus V. Harlander                   harlan@physik.tu-muenchen.de   
GeNUA mbH and Physics Dep. TUM         Tel: +49 (89) 714 3083
D-8000 Munich                               +49 (89) 3209-2192
         -----> Happy hacking with OPERATOR Beer. <-----
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: sun dkinfo command question
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:52:38 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara


 >Don't know what you ar looking for, but try these [listed from most to
 >least friendly]
 >
 >	man newfs (with the -N and -v options)
 >	man mkfs  (with the -N option)
 >	man dumpfs

Actually, he was probably looking for *procedure calls* to fetch
information; if so, he should use the one that "newfs" and "dkinfo"
uses, namely the DKIOCGPART "ioctl()" call - see DKIO(4S).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us (Joe Greco)
Subject: Re: telnetd banner, source or hacks?
Organization: Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:49:40 GMT

In comp.sys.sun.admin article <1992Dec11.201540.17431@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu>, johnj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (John A. Johnston) wrote:
: ...
:Telnetd seems to have the message it displays at connection time hard
:coded in, versus how it can be done with a tty by manipulating
:gettytab.

Yes, it does.  This would seem like a trivially stupid and easy hack, and it
is - except for the fact that most of the networking code available
currently is oriented towards BSD4.4 and requires some tweaking to work
under SunOS.  Since I've vastly Berkeleyized my system, that's not too much
of an issue for me.

:I'm wondering if anyone has done this bit of system customization, and
:how?  The telnetd can probably be found is source form but I'm no C
:whiz.

Ironically, 4.3bsd-reno (and/or the net2 sources) seem to have provided
hooks for this, but *still* wire it in.  I took net2 sources (I believe) and
patched them together, unwiring the braindeadedness in the process.  Some
pitfalls include having to create some of the libutil library (or including
it in telnetd) and having to muck around with source to getty (this can
*all* be obtained from net2, I believe).

These comments all from a nearly year-old memory of what I did with the net2
sources.  I did the same thing with the original Berzerkeley networking
release code, but it was a lot easier because I didn't have to hack in so
much stuff.

With the "91.03.25" release of telnet/telnetd, there's a directory/library
called "libtelnet", and a file in it called "getent.c".  This contains the
truly offensive code - a stub.  I clobbered it by copying in "gettytab.c" on
top of it, which provides the gettytab-reading code.  Then of course you
need to make tweaks and modifications to get Berkeley44ized code to run
under SunOS.

Mine ended up looking like this....

(aurora.jgreco.p0) 2:36am ~ 27 > telnet solaria
Trying 192.98.72.11...
Connected to solaria.mil.wi.us.
Escape character is '^]'.


Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI

Need help?  Type "help".

SunOS/BSD UNIX (solaria.mil.wi.us)

(ttyp3) login: Login timed out after 60 seconds
Connection closed by foreign host.
(aurora.jgreco.p0) 2:43am ~ 28 > 

I can ship you the whole ball of wax, if you wish - but I warn you it may or
may not be as easy for you to install.  I've got the "util" library and a
little concoction of my own called the "reno" library installed, which helps
fill in library routines where Sun left off.

... Joe

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Greco - System Administrator		       jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us
Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI			   414/321-9287
From: dsc@seismo.CSS.GOV (taste is the enemy of art)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun vs. Solbourne console speed
Keywords: rom console
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:22:59 GMT
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA
Originator: dsc@beno.CSS.GOV


In article <1992Dec18.080839.8561@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, bogstad@gauss.cs.jhu.edu
|> 	I buy that on the older machines.  I'm curious about one thing
|> though.  What is the screen speed on the LX, Classic, and SS10s?

since i have only seen the lx, classic & ss10s running a window system, i don't
know if their native console speed is faster, but i would suspect so based on
some ipxs we received recently.  2 of them had rom revision 2.4 and their
native consoles were as slow as always.  however, 2 of them had rom revision 2.6, and they showed a real improvement wrt console speed.

dsc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: getwd error message
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:05:48 GMT

What does it mean when I get the error message
"getwd not found"?  It occurs when I start up 
a software package or try to "su" to another
userid.  Logging out and then back in solves 
the problem.
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=  Enjoy!          John DeRosa, Motorola, Inc, ESMR Development  =
=  thanks          derosa@ssd.comm.mot.com                       =
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From: cd874@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andreas Priebe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Login under OpenWindows
Date: 14 Dec 1992 09:24:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi Netters,
 
sorry for the question but I am new with this SUN business.
I just got my SPARC 10 (with SUNOS 4.1.3 and OpenWIndows 3)
and wonder how I can get a Login-Prompt under OpenWindows.
The Standard-Installation asks for Login on the Text-Console
and then for non-root starts OpenWindows in .login.
 
I found a hint in the Manuals that there is a LoginTool,
but this relates to SUN386 only and to SunOS <= 4.0.
So how do I start the WindowManager (e.g. with getty
from /etc/ttytab - as it is done on a ULTRIX workstation).
 
I suppose you all know the answer and I am the one who doesn't,
so I think it would be better to answer by mail. 
If this is an FAQ - feel free and send as many flames, as you can!
(But point me to the source PLEASE!)
 
Thanx,
 
Andreas
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Phone: +49 331 762 320
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: eeprom bootdev (Sun 3/60, Sunos 4.1.1)
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:48:06 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

I seem to remember a 3/60 complaining about a " " being a bad boot
device, when someone accidentally flipped the diagnostic switch on...
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From: apn@Apple.COM (Alex Novickis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: format.dat for MAXTOR LXT-340S. Please!
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:03:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <BzFuCx.n0F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam) writes:
>I need to find the specs for the LXT-340S.  A format.dat entry would be great.
>
>Thanks..
>
>
I don't have one of hand, but I just called maxtor to get the format.dat
entry for a PI-17S and they knew what I wanted with no probs.

   MAXTOR COLORADO Corp.                   WATTS LINE: (800)356-5333
   1861 Lefthand Circle                      PAY LINE: (303)651-6000
   Longmont   CO  80501-6798                 FAX LINE: (303)678-2165
                                             BBS LINE: (303)678-2222


-- 
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UUCP:{amdahl,claris,pyramid,sun,decwrl,well,ubvax,ames}!apn@apple.com,apn@nonvon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de (Michael Riepe)
Subject: Re: Need to let Non-Root use Mount
Reply-To: riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de
Organization: University of Hannover (Germany), IFW
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:58:21 GMT

In article 92Dec12142530@loiosh.eff.org, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
|>MR> == Michael Riepe <riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de>
|>
|> MR> What are you talking about ? On this system (Sparc10, SunOS 4.1.3)
|> MR> the shell scripts below work fine with owner=root and perms=4755
|> MR> (and there is also a similar version for the floppy disk).
|>
|>Great!  Can I have root on your machine?  (Don't bother giving me the
|>root password, all I need now is an account and about 5 minutes...)

Seems like you won't succeed :-)

|>I've always wanted access to a Sparc10... :)

It's not as great as you think. Better look for a Cray.

|>[Seriously, folks, setuid scripts are a BAD BAD BAD BAD idea.]

OK - I got it now. Thanks to everybody who replied.
Michael.

-- 
 Michael Riepe               <riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de>
 Universit"at Hannover
 Institut f"ur Fertigungstechnik und Spanende Werkzeugmaschinen
 Schlosswender Str. 5               W-3000 Hannover 1 (Germany)
 ...life is a sexually transmitted desease !

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Craig Morgenstern)
Subject: Booting dataless client from server on different subnet
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:38:24 GMT

I have a dataless sparcstation 1 (local swap and /) running 4.1.1 on one
subnet with the server on a different subnet.  I've noted in /etc/rc.boot
that in order to mount /usr, a static linked version of route must be placed
in /sbin.  I was unable to find such a beast, so instead I copied the
dynamic linked version of route into /sbin and made copies of libc.so.1.6 and
ld.so into /usr/lib on the local disk (using miniroot from tape).  The "local"
/usr/lib would be hidden once the server's /usr gets mounted.  

My question is: can someone please enlighten me as to why this scheme doesn't
work.  The call to /sbin/route from rc.boot seems to go fine; the specified
gateway is added to the route table.  However, the boot process still hangs
trying to mount /usr from the server.  I'm now clueless (probably always was).

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment!

Craig Morgenstern
morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: How to update shared libraries?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 19:03:59 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Dec17.115050.9821@news.uni-stuttgart.de> jens@kssun3.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Jens Schweikhardt 07151690270) writes:
>On our Sparc Station with SUNOS 4.1.1 we have shared libraries
...
>Now I ftp'd a binary from some other Sparc Station which on invocation
>produced a linker warning:
>ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libc.so.1.6.1 has older revision than expected 7

Revision 7 is the version of libc that comes with SunOS 4.1.2.  This
warning indicates that the binary was linked on a 4.1.2 system.

>So my libraries are not up to date. 

Your libraries are fine -- you have the most up-to-date version for 4.1.1.
The problem is that the program you copied was compiled on a newer OS
revision.  Running programs compiled on a newer OS is not guaranteed to
work, since the newer compiler and includes may have references to features
that didn't exist in the old revision.  You can ignore the warning and hope
things work (they usually do, as there aren't many such differences between
4.1.1 and 4.1.2), you can upgrade the 4.1.1 system to a newer release, or
you can recompile the program on the 4.1.1 system.

				     I can get from the same Sparc Station
>the libraries with version 1.8 and 1.8.1. My question is if I can
>just ftp these and put them in my /usr/lib and do a ldconfig.

No, that's pretty dangerous.  The newer shared libraries may expect new or
modified system call interfaces.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
From: link@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Link)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Problems with Name service
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:40:53 GMT
Reply-To: link@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Link)
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.sys.sun.admin, jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell) writes:
>I'm setting up my Sun (I'm trying to at least) to use a name server.
>When I run nslookup, I get the name and address of my default server
>and I can query it to my heart's delight.  When I run (ping/telnet/ftp/whatever
>)
>with a host that is not in my local host file, I get "unknown host"  My
>resolv.conf file looks like this:

I have a similar problem on my machine running DNS without NIS.  In order to
fix this problem you must modify and rebuild the resolver library.  It is not a
trivial problem, but SUN support did send me a step-by step procedure(It varies
with the version of the OS you are running.  This mod is not supported by SUN
since it does cause some peculiarities which are listed below:

1) inconsistent behavior between statically and dynamically linked executables

2) total dependency of system on route/connection to valid nameserver as listed
in /etc/resolv.conf (no local /etc/hosts lookups at all)

3) dependency upon external nameserver for all new host to IP address
translation additions, including "localhost"

and a couple of others.

I decided to go ahead and try to run NIS instead.

If you really want to go ahead and do this, I can e-mail you the SUN
instructions.


Rick Link                     Internet: link@fracture.dt.navy.mil
David Taylor Research Center  Ma Bell:  (410)267-4335            
Annapolis, MD 21402-5067      Autovon:  281-4335
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David Taylor Research Center  Ma Bell:  (301)267-4335            
Annapolis, MD 21402-5067      Autovon:  281-4335
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From: "tony ziolkowski" <tony.ziolkowski@canrem.com>
Subject: swap space status
Reply-To: "tony ziolkowski" <tony.ziolkowski@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:12:03 EST

I'm looking for a utility that will show me the contents of swap space.I
don't care how unsupported it is, as long as it won't corrupt theswap
space and I can run it with the system live, not like kabd after a
crash.

You can mail me the info at tonyz@empress.com

tonyz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: Cant start clients in OpenWin3
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:30:34 GMT

Hi everybody.

I've been asked to help fix a problem with a remote SPARCstation 2.  I
can only get at it through telnet and talking to a guy at the machine
over the phone.  The problem they are having is that they can't invoke
anything from the background pop-up menu.  Whenever they try, the system
writes an error like 'getwd: can't open ..' across the middle of the
background.  However, I can telnet in, set the DISPLAY variable back to
the machine I'm on, and run any of their apps that I want, so I know the
software they want to run is itself intact.  I also know that a new
sysadmin had tried to move home directories on that machine a few days
before, and apparently caused the problem.  In untar-ing, he didn't
preserve file permissions, then in trying to fix that, he did a 'chmod
644 .*', which goofed up the directory above.  I have also found various
other screwey permission on the system (eg. /var/tmp was set to 600).
So, I suspect permission problems-- but where?  The users can log in,
and openwindows (ver 3.0, BTW) does start, but that's it.  They can't
even bring up a command tool.  The /usr/openwin tree seems ok, but it's
so big that I'd probably miss it if it weren't.  Has anyone seen a
problem like this before?  Or does anyone know what files might have
been messed up that are needed to open programs from the pop-up menu?
It's not the /usr/openwin/lib/openwin-menu-* files, those are ok, and
the menus *do* display.

	Any help GREATLY appreciated.


-- 
Marc Fraioli
mfraioli@grebyn.com	        	(So I'm a minimalist...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan)
Subject: Re: sun dkinfo command question
Reply-To: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Cc: scairns@is.morgan.com
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:11:24 GMT

Don't know what you ar looking for, but try these [listed from most to least friendly]

	man newfs (with the -N and -v options)
	man mkfs  (with the -N option)
	man dumpfs

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Communications Research Centre / DRL	office	613-998-2845
3701 Carling Ave.,			lab	613-998-2423
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From: sroth@jabba.mavd.honeywell.com (Steve Roth)
Subject: Re: AutoCad on PCs using PC-NFS file corruption
Organization: Honeywell MAvD, St. Louis Park, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:57:35 GMT

We use Autocad Rev 11 (soon to be Rev 12) with PC-NFS and have experienced
no corruption in the files.  I've also saved files both on the local disk and 
network drives without problems.

(We didn't have problems with Rev 10 either)

Steve

sroth@sol.mavd.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.databases.informix,comp.admin.policy
From: pjb@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Paul J. Bell)
Subject: Re: Database directed system administration ??
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!pjb
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:36:55 GMT

In article <1gk5osINNbq@uniko.uni-koblenz.de>, krienke@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Rainer Krienke) writes:
|> We are looking for a database based system for (unix-) workstation 
|> administration. 
|> Using this databasesystem we want eg. to be able to add new users to our
|> system, or new workstations to our net. 
|> The modification of the data contained in the database schould then trigger
|> the appropriate actions.
|> Does anyone know about such a system, or has anyone experience with such a
|> database ?
|> Thanks in advandce
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Rainer Krienke                                     krienke@infko.uni-koblenz.de
|> Universitaet Koblenz,                              krienke@infko.UUCP          
|> Rechenzentrum,                                     Voice: +49 261 9119-641
|> Rheinau 3-4, D-5400 Koblenz, Germany               Fax:   +49 261 9119-499
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DecAthena (from DEC) or the Athena suite from MIT (public Domain) addresses
these and many other issues. 

pjb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: Slave NIS Server Reboots -> Client Hangs?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:37:56 GMT

In my network, I have one master and two slave NIS
servers.  Clients out on the network bind to one of
these servers.  

At some point in time, one of the slaves reboots 
either intentionally or by a fault.  When this 
happens any workstations that are bound to this
slave server appears to hang.  I.E. the cursor
goes away or no key/mouse click action.

My question is, why does this happen?  Why 
doesn't NIS just rebind to another slave or
master?  It appears that the client will 
not rebind for 5-10 mins.  Why so long of 
a timeout?  Can this be changed?

I am running SunOS 4.1.2 and Openwindows 2.0
on SparcStation 2's..

Thanks for any information, John DeRosa
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=  thanks          derosa@ssd.comm.mot.com                       =
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