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From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Filmed Philip Dick (Was: Speaking of Ridley Scott...)
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:00:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <1992Aug20.163459.13806@jyu.fi> mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:

(Stuff about Philip Dick's favorable reaction to Bladerunner deleted)
<
<  Yes, well, I guess that is a possibility, but the article clearly meant
<  that PKD was very pleased by the film - not that he was being sarcastic.


Bladerunner certainly captured the recurring themes and "feel" of Dick's
work very well -- in fact, I liked the way they played on the screen
better than I liked them in print.  The fact that it has little to
do, plotwise, with the Dick novel it's based on ("Do Androids Dream
of Electric Sheep?") is almost beside the point.

There is one short segment of "Total Recall" that is pure Dick:  

(don't know if I have to worry about spoilers here, but what the hell)

The scene where the squidgy hairless guy with coke-bottle glasses appears
in Schwarzenegger's hotel room and calls the reality of the whole situation
into question.  He claims that Arnie's really still on the chair at
Rekall, Inc., and that all this is a paranoid fantasy that'll become
irreversible unless Arnie makes the symbolic act of taking the pill in
the hairless guy's hand -- right now.  It was lovely, and perfectly
set up. I could feel the whole audience tense up.  For a moment, nobody knew 
up from down.  

Then Arnie notices that the hairless guy is sweating with fear, deduces that
everything's real after all, starting shooting at things, and it all turns back 
into a normal Schwartzenegger movie.  Too bad.
From: wlamonac@larson.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Crispin Glover
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:25:43 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <93695@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:
>In article <Bsz6y5.2r5@acsu.buffalo.edu> v081q3sw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John K Mrozik) writes:
>>
>>	Does anybody have a list of all the movies that Crispin Glover has
>>appeared in?  ...'BACK TO THE FUTURE'...'WILD AT HEART'...'RIVER'S EDGE
>>...'MY TUTOR'.  Anyone have a complete list?
>
>Not a complete list but he was (appropriately) cast as Andy Warhol
>in Oliver Stone's `The Doors'

He was also in 'TWISTER' a truly excellent movie (but hard to find)
and 'HIGH SCHOOL USA' a very bad TV movie with quite a few people who went
on to bigger and better things (it's also out on video)
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: At the movies...
Summary: babbling
Keywords: frogs evil
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:59:08 GMT
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Recent viewing:

BOB LE FLAMBEUR: Jean-Pierre Melville flick.  Not that great.
Co-written by the dude that wrote RIFIFI.  2.5 stars.

LE DOULOS: Another J-P M. flick.  Pretty good.  This one was an
obvious point of reference for John Woo's THE KILLER (Woo said THE
KILLER was a tribute to Melville, in case you missed that posting).
3 stars.

DEMONS 2: Argento-produced Lamberto Bava flick about "demons",
actually more like zombies.  Pretty bad.  Boring.  1 star.  DEMONS
was pretty bad too, I thought.

SPIDER BABY: Fun movie.  "But spiders don't eat other spiders"
"Cannibal spiders do!"  3 stars.

UNFORGIVEN: Mildly amusing.  I liked Gene Hackman in it.  Clint was
cool too.  2.5 stars.  I wouldn't mention it except for the next
flick...

STRAIGHT TO HELL: Great!  Lots of funny references to other westerns
(probably lots I didn't get, too).  4 stars.  Wish I had seen it in
the theater; it was a nice-looking film, apparent even on video.  I'm
looking forward to seeing some of Cox's other interesting-looking
movies (Walker, Highway Patrolman).

Watched SUSPIRIA again (letterboxed, laserdisc version) the other
night at around 4am, turned the volume up (through the stereo system
of course!) to see if I could scare the neighbors.  They must be
serious drug addicts or something -- no complaints!  I still say it's
ten times better in the theater.  Did someone say: plot?  FUCK PLOT!!
(4 stars, of course)  Anyone who says it is not that great and has
only seen it on video is not saying anything very interesting IMO.
Maybe I'll start campaigning some local independent theaters to do a
Dario Argento retrospective, with special attention paid to getting
good uncut prints...  That's a worthy goal I think...

Happy movie-going/video-watching,

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not widman@...)
"Help me find something sharp."
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Wim Wenders filmography request (was Re: Until the End of the World)
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:26:14 GMT
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

>Timothy, since you seem to be located in Cambridge, the Videosmith at 955
>Mass Ave has 'Wings of Desire' on LD, I believe in letter box.  As the
>Brattle had a Wenders fest a few months ago, there won't be much of a chance
>of seeing it on a moviescreen in the near future.

I'm Ed, not Tim (I borrow his account for news access).

The LD of Wings of Desire is *NOT* letterboxed.  If it were I would
own it.  I told the goons at Videosmith that there were lots of movies
I would rent on laserdisc if they weren't cropped.  There's not much
they can do about it though, most of them just aren't available.  But
laserdiscs make it "acceptable" to watch something, it still cannot
even come close to the true cinematic experience (my favorite example
is SUSPIRIA--which is in the Mass Ave Videosmith on LD letterboxed--
but it just isn't the same as in the theater)...

I've seen Wings of Desire a few times, and I'm sure it will play again
now and then, because it was very popular (as far as subtitled flicks
go).

>|> Of the three "angels" he dedicated it to, I've never been impressed
>|> with Truffaut, I've heard good things but never seen anything by
>|> Ozu... but Tarkovsky is probably my favorite director of all time (and
>|> his influence on Wings of Desire is obvious).
>
>|>	[ Later, someone posts about 'Tokyo ga' and Ozu's films...]

Hey, that was Josh Tsui, fellow John Woo fan!  I guess I really should
check out some Ozu, I've always felt kind of uneducated for not having
seen any of his films...

>[Wenders books]

They sound interesting, I'll have to look for them.  (What did they
have to do with cyberpunk, BTW?)

-Ed (not Tim!), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@athena.mit.edu!)
Organization: Senior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:07:49 -0400 
From: Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
	<1992Aug19.170531.25219@news2.cis.umn.edu>

>To the debate on "Pretty Baby" and how Brooke Shields was shown naked, before
>she was 18, I want one thing clarified. Is this an American Film? I thought
>it was funded, and partially filmed in France, <where they do not have laws 
>against minors appearing naked, apparently>. I was far more shocked by 
>the underage Nasstassia Kinski's nude scenes in "Tess". 
>Besides, I don't think the morals of the country were undermined by Ms.
>Shields nakedness. We're still here...
>
>				--Judex--

Even if the scene was filmed in France, the child pornography laws would
still apply for any American distribution.  It is per se illegal to show
underage people naked in a theatrical release.  They can often get away
with it with infants on the grounds that infants are not tittilating or
somesuch.  But a teenager under 18 shown naked would almost certainly
get the producers prosecuted under federal child pornography statues in
America.  I believe another poster stated that she wore a body stocking
for the scene.  I'd tend to believe it.

I was unaware Kinski was under 18 when she did Tess.  Are you sure?

					Tom the non hacker
					Kemp in 96!
					"If patriotism is the last refuge
					of scoundrels,  Then environmentalism
					is the current refuge of totalitarians."
					Bob Jackson
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:03:22 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...

In article <malcolm.714329315@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
|[...] He talks about this in his autobiography, _ROMAN_. Polanski's
|latest wife is 20-30 years younger than him... in his latest film she stars
|in it an plays a woman who gets raped beaten and abused. Anyway, Polanski's

What's the name of this film?

	BS
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: vampire@wam.umd.edu (Jack Dracula)
Subject: Pet Semetary II
Followup-To: nothing, really 
Summary: There can be only one...
Originator: vampire@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Keywords: Booger. Yeah, that's it, booger. Booger. Boogerboogerbooger...
Organization: The Mad Misties of Maryland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:10:24 GMT

Just got back from seeing Single White Female last night, where
at my local cinema I saw the poster for Pet Semetary II. (The line
being "Raise some hell.") Looks ok, saw no real mention of the name
of the King (Stephen, not Elvis.)
What may or may not interest you kids is the stars. Listed first,
Eddie Furlong, of Terminator 2 fame. Respectable. But what raised
my adrenalin was the third name: Clancy Brown. (For those of you
who haven't seen _Highlander_, he's the seven-foot villian with
the monster sword. Now go see _Highlander._)
				Vampire
			...in dreams i walk with you...
From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:47:23 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

In article <1992Aug6.000422.10792@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:

> See all through the movie, Lee talks about writing "a report."
> So what's a word for the sound a gun makes that begins with "r" and ends
> with "t"?

Hmmm... Rat-a-tat-tat?

(Sorry folks, couldn't resist :-)

--danny
-- 
	"Were his solid black square paintings really,
	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Bis ans Ende der Welt
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:42:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


The discussion of Wim Wenders and "Bis ans Ende der Welt" (apparently
released in the U.S. as "Until the End of the World") leads me to ask,
has the film already completed its theater run in the U.S.?

I was living in Munich last year when, under much fanfare, this film was
released.  Two versions were shown.  One was in "native language", where
some scenes were in English and others in French and the other verion was
dubbed German.  My German skills being what they are, I saw the first
version.  Besides the multi-language aspect of the version that I saw,
it did not have closing credits.  After then end, the U2 song is played
to a black screen (incidentally, the U2 song does not appear on the German
release of the soundtrack.).  Both versions were three hours long.  
Interviews with Wenders at the time talk about the longer version, but
my German skills being what they are ...

Anyway, I liked the film and wanted to see it again to see if anything was
changed for the U.S. release.

alan
From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 18 Aug 1992 15:57:51 GMT
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In article <25550@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Eric T. Jue, etjue@lbl.gov
writes:
>The script is about 200 pages which would be too much for me to
>copy and send, sorry.

Actually, I looked at the script last night and it was about
100 pages.  I also noticed that originally it was a 7-11
instead of a Snappy Snap Shack and the original terms were "Big
Gulp" and "Slurpee" and not "Super Chug" and "Slushee."  I have
the laserdisc and it seems obvious to me that J.D. says "Super
Chug(as in chug a lug)."  Anyways, this makes a lot more sense
than "Super Chunk" or "Super Chuck."

There are  other reasons why I don't want to distribute
photocopies of my script:

1) It's bound and could be damaged during the copying process. 
I highly value this collectible and would not do anything to
jeopardize it's already mediocre condition.

2) Copyright laws might complicate me.  I just do not want to
take any risks.

Sorry, but I'm sure you can find another source for your needs.

Eric T. Jue
From: eyeater@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Quote help
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:37:37 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Aug19.115628.16820@pbs.org>, eyeater@pbs.org writes:
>      I hope the net can help me on this.  From whence comes the line,
> 
> 		"It is BALLOON!"  ?
> 
> 
> 	I've heard the line many times (most recently on MST-3K), but I
>      have no idea of its origin.  Anyone?  Anyone?
> 
>   [Eric Yeater, for whom the Public Broadcasting Service is not responsible]


	Thanks, thanks, thanks, everybody.  I've received several responses
  via e-mail, and the consensus is that "It is balloon!" is a quote from
  "F-Troop".  Admittedly, not a cult FILM per se, but I didn't know that at
  the time.

	Thanks again.

Eric Yeater, for whom the Public Broadcasting Service is STILL not responsible.
From: michael@marcel.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: SpideyMovie (was: Speaking of Verhoeven...)
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:10:33 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: andre@rurutu.wri.com's message of 10 Aug 92 23:39:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.233959.13377@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) writes:

=In article <SS.92Aug10081958@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)     writes:
 = > >>>>> On 7 Aug 92 17:18:17 GMT, michael@mileva.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)  
 = said:
 = > 
 = > michael> I remeber seeing on TV too long ago a Spiderman Movie. I
 = > michael> don't remember who the actors were, but I do remember that a
 = > michael> lot of the action took place in Japan. Anybody else have any
 = > michael> info?
 = > 
 = > I remember these. There repeated on Saturday afternoons sometimes.
 = > They were really bad. Bad effect, bad acting, bad spider costume.
 = > All the episodes were in NY, but there was an episode were Spidey
 = > fought some martial arts types, which is probably what your thinking
 = > of. 
 = > 
 = > --
 = >                         Scott Streeter
 = >                         ss@wpi.wpi.edu


=  I don't recall ever seeing a show. I remember the made-for-tv movie.  
=  Awful. And didn't "The Electric Company" used to have appearances by  
=  Spiderman? I remember watching it for just that reason when I used to be  
=  into comics...
=  ------- andre@wri.com ----------------------------------------------------
	
Yes, the Electric Company did have Spidey show up, but he was, 
unfortunately, mute. As for the movies, Kurgen of Oz
<C9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au>,
was kind enough to mail me this information:

=it was to do with the 70's tv show spider-man
=they released three spiderman movies which movie length tv show episodes.
=there's the first one showing his origins etc.
=another called spider man strikes again (or something along those lines)
=and the one you're thinking of spiderman and the dragon's challenge
=and it was set in Hong Kong and China.....

=I have all 3 on Pal video.....
=later
=Kurgen

=also it starred a guy called nicholas hammond who was one of the kids
=in the sound of music...
=later
=Kurgen

So, there you have it, folks...
Chaplin.

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From: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Three O'Clock High
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:36:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi,
 as anyone else seen that movie? I thougth it was great,
i especialy liked the camera angles and point of views, and
the constant clock... Did the director of this movies filmed
other movies?

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Subject: Re: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:59:22 GMT

>Thanks for the information, Joe!
>I have BULLET IN THE HEAD on video, but haven't gotten around to
>watching it.  I have over 1000 Asian films on video ... all of
>John Woo's (I just watched HEROES SHED NO TEARS ... in awe), most
>of Jackie Chan's, etc.
>
>I think tonight I'll watch BULLET IN THE HEAD, now that I'm on a
>roll.
>
>Thanks again. Pete.
  More than a thousand Asian Movies? Arrrrghhhh. I wish my collection
was somewhere near that large. As it is, I only have 30-40. But, if you
have yet to watch BULLET IN THE HEAD (one of the finest epic Chinese
movies made (compare to Apocolyupse Now)), I do have a few other
suggestions. Try these movies, if they are in your collection:
  _A Chinese Ghost Story_ I, II and III. (#1 is the best, though all are
  good.
  _Roboforce_ (aka I Love Maria). an incredible Chinese film
  _Ironman_ A Japanese flick that has *NO* resemblence to the Marvel
  character of the same name.
  _Mr. Vampire_ The best Chinese vampire movie I have ever seen.
  _Seventh Curse_ Incredible!
  _Magic of Spell_ Indescribable, but definetly 4 ****s.
 
  Those are my suggestions for a night of video magic. Oh. Yeah. You
should try to make sure that none of the movies passed through the hands
of American censors.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: crunch@camelot.bradley.edu (Randy Bloom)
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Organization: Rare.
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:51:30 GMT

Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:

[>In article <56982@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Happy Fun Ball,
[>gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
[>>"You gonna pull a super chuck with that?" [after seeing Veronica buying the
[>>corn nuts]

[>>"Heather and Kirk were a shock -- but Martha Dumptruck?!?  Get serious.  She
[>>dialed suicide hotlines in her diapers."

[>These lines are not correct, at least not according to the
[>shooting script I have.

Well, they don't ring true with my memory, either.  I have no recollection
of the "super chuck" line (although the line that follows is "I see you
know your convenience-speak pretty well"), and I think it's "crucial"
instead of "serious" in the other line.

You have a copy of the shooting script?

Could you send me one?

[>Eric T. Jue
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From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:47:21 GMT

In article <114651@muvms3.bitnet> rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:
>In article <1992Aug6.000422.10792@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>
>> See all through the movie, Lee talks about writing "a report."
>> So what's a word for the sound a gun makes that begins with "r" and ends
>> with "t"?

You already said it. A report.

Matthew

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From: bmrosen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian M. Rosen)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:45:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.071617.13454@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> gorgeous@momth2.maths.monash.edu.au ( C Dyt) writes:
>
>Previously I had questioned whether it was a Mugwump that Yves had turnt into
>in the cage. I now agree that it was. This fact is reinforced by Bill blaming
>the Mugwump in his apartment for sending him to Yves'. However this does not
>eliminate my previous idea (stubborn little turd arn't I ) about mugwumps
>representing drugs. (see numurous previous postings). I now put forward that 
>what happend to Kiki was in fact representing a drug overdose.
>
>I would love to hear replies to this idea.
>
>Chris

	NOOOOOOO.  It seems from this post and previous others that you are
determined to form one to one correlations between this movie and 'real life'.
I REALLY don't think that that is the correct way to approach this film.  I
just can't imagine that such a literal "this represents his impotence", and
"this shows his Oedipal traits" interpretation would result in anything but
a terribly fragmented array of pointers to corrupt, or at best questionable
data structures. (ahem...sorry about that)  However, If that's what floats
your canoe...

	


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From: stafford@geop.ubc.ca (Brian Stafford, GF summer student)
Subject: Re: Three O'Clock High
Reply-To: stafford@geop.ubc.ca
Organization: Geophysics & Astronomy, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:02:30 GMT

	This is one of the most fantastic comedies I've ever seen.
THe cinematography really added a lot to the movie, but the writing killed me.
It was hilarious.


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From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:52:55 EDT

Potential SPOILER .....
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Although I've had the videocassettes for a year, I just watched
Woo's A BETTER TOMORROW and A BETTER TOMORRW II, and have a
question about the ending of ABT II.  In the last scene, Ken
(Chow Yun Fat) Mark's (from ABT I) twin brother, Lung (the man whom
the mob framed) and Ho (Kit's brother who went straight in ABT I)
are sitting together.  They've just battled the mob in one of the
longest, bloodiest, emotionally charged shoot-outs I've ever seen.
(Kit was killed earlier in the film while photographing the mob's
counterfeiting operation - he was able to make it to a telephone
to talk to his wife who had just had a baby girl).
 
In this last scene, it is difficult to tell if Lung and Ken are
dead.  Lung is covered with blood and staring blankly.  Ken has
his eyes closed and head back.  I assume Ho is still alive because
his eyes are open and he's smiling (He wasn't wounded as badly as
Lung and Ken were).  I don't have A BETTER TOMORROW III, but I
know that Chow Yun Fat returns ... I don't know if he returns as
Ken, though.  Are Lung and Ken dead?????
 
Thanks!!!
 
Pete.