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From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Subject: Fri. rally in Boston
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:54:26 GMT

Contrary to what was promised, apparently Clinton etc. never
appeared at the rally for Shen Tong, he just had a campaign
rally nearby.  Here is the account of the Fri. rally in Boston.
 
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From: "(Zhang Yun Fei)" <zhang@BU-AST.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Boston rally in protesting Shen Tong's arrest
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.bitnet
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Yun Fei Zhang
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>From june@bu-pub.bu.edu Sat Sep 26 13:06:18 1992
To: june4@bucrsb.bu.edu 
Subject: shen tong rally 
 
 
Boston Students Rally to Protest Shen Tong's Arrest 
 
A large crowd of Chinese students in Boston area gathered 
(09/25, Friday, 2-4pm) at the State House of Massachusetts 
in a rally to protest Shen Tong's arrest. 
 
The rally was originally initiated by concerned American students 
at Boston University and Brandeis University. But once Chinese 
Students Association at Boston University (CSA) was informed
of the rally, it immediately went into mobilization for the
rally. The Chinese student representatives met the rally
organizers and participated in the planning. Chinese students
were alerted through email network, telephone calls and direct
personal contact.
 
As a result of active mobilization, a strong Chinese constituency
participated in the rally: Chinese students from BU, Brandeis,
Harvard, MIT, Northeastern, BC and other universities rallied
together with their American peers. Representing Chinese students,
Dr. Zhao Haiqing, spoke for an urgent need of increasing concern
over Chinese human rights.
 
Association of Hongkong Chinese for Human Rights in China also showed
a strong presence in the rally. Its leader Mr. Xie emphasized that
while demanding Shen's release, we should not forget other political
prisoners still in jail. All its members at the rally wore large
photos of Wei Jingsheng, Wang Dan, Xu Wenlie, and other political
prisoners.
 
Shen's friends Marshall Strauss and Ross Terrill also spoke at the
rally. After the rally, the participants marched to join a Clinton
campaign rally nearby.

Mr. Xie is probably Che Chung-Chi   -wing
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Lei Feng
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:41:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc

JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:

>Here is another story about Lei Feng:  After the Party annouced its policy of
>focusing on (hen zhua) the four modernization, Lei Feng's platoon exhibited
>something new  in their Lei Feng Exhibition: Lei Feng's leather jacket.

O.K.  It is Funky Cheung's Story time.

Here is another story about Lei Feng:  After the Party announced its policy of
population growth control, Lei Feng's platoon exhibited something new in their
Lei Feng Exhibit: Lei Feng's condom.  Of course, it is used over and over again
and sewed over and over again.

Cheung's Funky Shop
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zliu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhong Liu)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:53:19 GMT

As long as Chinese government represents her own people, I believe
China will not repeat what Japan and Germany did in the World War II.
If the government doesn't, there should be a means to force the
government to return to her own people. In conclusion, to avoid
many tragedies done by the CCP, China must establish a democratic
system such as US style or something compatible. Without such
system, China is still hopeless even if she becomes much stronger
than today because one day she will crash and be dismantled just
like Germany in the World War II.

Z. Liu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:38:56 GMT

In article <6784@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:

>>What else will D-fighters win?
>
>Green card!

Yijun is too indifferent to green card. Let me raise a personal
question here: what happen if your wife gets green card and you
are iligible to get with her?

You are too sensitive to the green card issue that you consider
green card is a privilege. Green card is only a minor issue of
life. Life is much more than that. Just like Chinese citizenship
is for everyone, but still it does not mean everyone is equal in
China.

Try to change your attitude and be more objective.

>
>-- 
>//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: ma@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Summary about BrRe:Question about bring PC to China (220vs110,50Hvs60H)
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:37:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

First, since I posted the question, I got quite many helpful e-mails. I 'd like
to thank all people who responded either via e-mail or posting on the news
board.

Then I 'd like to post a brief summary of the information I got, in case other
folks may be interested.

(1) Some people wonder if the PC can be brought to China as a "big item". The
person who actual takes the PC (not mine) wrote to Chinese custom office early.
The answer is affirmative.
(2) For those who are going to buy a PC and may have possibility to bring to
China or Europe, be sure buy the machines with Dual-voltage or automatic
shifting power supply. Then he/she will not have such problem as I raised.
(3) Many people said that a transformer (220 V to 110V) would solve the problem
for all, including PC the body, the monitor, and the printer. Even the 
university computer service technician here said so, as long as the machine
stays on the north side of the Equator. Others said the rest will be O.K.
except the monitor. NEC, the OEM of the monitor, said that it wouldn't work.
I know the company usually wants to play safe, and don't want to take any 
responsibility. Therefore, their words should not be trusted. I, myself,
brought a PC to Germany in 1988, the monitor with a transformer didn't work.
Of course, that one didn't work doesn't mean everyone doesn't work.
(4) Some people say all kind of converter/transformers can be found in China
easily.
(5) These converter/transformers can be found in New York city.
(6) The converter which converts both voltage and frequency would be very
expensive, if it exists.
(7) Those light (transformers are usually heavy) converters are not good.
(8) Other possibilities if you are electronic experts.
Ma


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:34:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.075514.18309@marlin.jcu.edu.au> phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (su jianfeng) writes:

>Will China continue to be a communism country is only Chinese's
>bussiness.   As soon as the communist party does not involve directly
>supporting other communist party in other countries, it should not be
>treated as the enemy of world.  I do not think a country controlled by a
>communist party must be very dangerous to other countries.  At least, Germany
>and Japan were not communism countries when they started the WW I and
>WW II.  People should not assume other people to be their enemy.

I think you are partially right. It is your feeling, perhaps
rational one. But the majority people in the world may not have
rational feeling toward communism, they have evil image about
communism. Not everyone travels to China. Therefore as long as
China insists on communism, the image of China in the world
is negative.

>yours.  As soon as the government can continue current economic reform.
>I optimize the future of China. 

My prediction is that after Deng Xiaoping's death, there will
be another internal struggle on this issue. The cry for victims
of 6/4 massacre will not die (difficult, because it is in such a
large scale, first in the history). I don't see the optimized
future yet, at least now.
From: lix@yangtze.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:10:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <s075198.718290954@cunews> s075198@mercury.carleton.ca (Jun Liu) writes:
>In <6831@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>(deleted)
>I am sorry to say that I find this "d-fighter" phrase very objcetionable.
>You may fail to agree certain acts of certain people, but one of 
>consciousness and duty, give the situation of China, should feel obliged
>to promote democracy and the awareness of human rights. Yet there still 
>many people wouldn't give a damn to it, but that is exactly what we should 

Well, you sounds serious. But on SCC land, specific term has sepecific
definition. For example, Dr. Qu Yuan means Qu Yuan Da Ren, Dr. Johnny means
Kong ZhongNi Da Ren. D-fighters are usually referring those young CCP kids,
who are power-hungry or blood-thirst, they can't wait for the pass of their
grandparents and by chance they are using some terms called D for their power
dream. What you mentioned, are named otherwise, ask Xiao-lin Li for example.
--
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Xiangqi (Chinese Chess)
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:12:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct1.004820.206@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jwr7133@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.W. Rambeau) writes:
>
>The pawn move to kill other player's king at once--- It's allow do it,
>but I beleived that It's illegal.  Anyone whom know how to play this
>game, then please explain me the rule of this game.  I can't found rule

Hmmm, this does not sound like Chinese chess. Pawn can only move one
square at a time. How can it kill King at once?  I would like to explain
to you, but it is not easy to do here.  Many pieces are similar, except
that there are gunners (pao4).  You know, Chinese invented the gun powder.
There is no Qneen.  Maybe this can be explained by a Chinese saying
"nan2 bu4 he2 nu3 dou4" (good men never fight women).  There are no
bishops.  That's why most Chinese are non-religious.  And last, pawn can
move horizontally once they passed the center river.  But they can't be
promoted.  In anciant Chinese, you never beat your master.  Well, if
pawn can become a Qneen in western chess..., I just can't see how :)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: What is Action 9201?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 27 Sep 92 01:15:45 GMT

Many new news readers sent me messages asking "what is 9201 Action?".  This
is a generic answer to the per quote question.

9201 Action is the first action I and my friends took in 1992, that's why we
named it as 9201.  This action was triggered by some democracy fighters who
always use democracy as the pretense to gain their personal profits.  9201
Action was taken in favor of the Chinese public and the US public.  The
major 9201 points are:

	- "they labelled themselves as democracy fighters in 1989, but
	   they have acted as visa fighters and green card fighters since
	   after."

	- "It is not America but China which is in need of democracy."

	- "Either in the communism country or in the capitalism country,
	   people got to return whatsover they owe to others."

	- "Even in the US, if people used the government money for their
	   education, they need to return the money in one way or another."

	- "If those Chinese students are not loyal to their home country,
	   they won't be loyal to the US, either."

In addition to those publically acceptable points, here are some of my personal
points:

	- "Leave those garbage in America."

	- "They are wose than CCP."

shannon
-------

PS: 9201 was suspended for a couple of months, because some CCP guys made me
    angry.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 3 Oct 1992 23:52:05 CDT
From: <U52727@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
 <BvGqGx.3AF@cs.psu.edu> <1992Oct2.144332.103@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
 <6775@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

In article <6775@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, yndst2+@pitt.edu (Yong Duan) says:
>
>In article <1992Oct2.144332.103@en.ecn.purdue.edu> chenwei@en.ecn.purdue.edu

>(Chenwei Yan) writes:
>>In article <BvGqGx.3AF@cs.psu.edu> jyw@phys.psu.edu (Jin-Yuan Wu) writes:
>>> ........
>>
>>I agree with you 100%.
>>Chinese people can only depend on themselves to make the country better and
>>stronger. On the other hand, we should learn from the other countries for
>good
>>expertise and good experiences for one reason: becoming the strongest nation
>>in the world and crush all the opponents!
>>
>>21st CENTURY WILL BE THE CENTURY OF THE GREATER CHINA!!!!
>>
>>Let's all work for that goal!
>
>You sounds pretty crazy! I hope you know what you are talking about.
>
>If to crush all the opponents is the goal to become the stronggest
>country, I would do whatever I can to stop it and I'd rather have a
>weaker China. Because this would simply means the termination of
>our great history and civilization.
>
>Learn something from American. Learn something from our
>intelligent ancients. They don't crush other countries. They
>try to be friends of them.
>
I don't understand what you mean that
American does  not crush other countries.  American says China can not
sell weapons to other countries. But one province of China just received
the promise of selling 150 F16 fighters from US.
Does American really want to be of them?? Open you eyes, my friend!
>I truelly suspect even CCP would like your suggestion. I also

>suspect that if you have brain. I suggest you go to see your doctor
>immediately. At least see your psychaitrist.
>
>Y.Duan
From: zhu@cs.UAlberta.CA (Zhu Yuchen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: No Comment (fwd)
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:03:22 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

This is an article posted on clari.sports.olympic. 
==================================================
	
	BEIJING (UPI) -- The cash and prizes awarded to China's gold medalists
at the Barcelona Olympics have proven a mixed blessing as the newly rich
athletes are being besieged by charity cases and con artists, a state-
run newspaper reported Thursday.
	Despite glowing reports in the official media on the small fortunes
being given by the government and private businesses to reward the
medalists, most of the money has not yet been distributed, the English-
language China Daily said.
	But many of the now-famous athletes have nonetheless been showered
with calls, letters and other pleas to share their supposed wealth, the
newspaper said.
	``I told them I hadn't received any money,'' said table tennis
champion Deng Yaping, the country's only double-gold medalist at
Barcelona, of the requests she had received. ``But who believes me? They
only took what they read for granted.''
	The China Daily said some medalists have been pressured to donate
funds to athletic schools, charity projects and individual needy cases.
Others reported having been recognized by taxi drivers who then demanded
exorbitant fares.
	Swimming star Yang Wenyi, who won gold in the women's 50-meter
freestyle at Barcelona, received a letter from a purported victim of a
serious kidney disease pleading for 10,000 yuan ($1,800), only to find
the same letter was sent to every other gold medalist.
	The China Daily quoted Liu Ji, vice director of the National Sports
Committee, as saying all cash and prize awards would be routed first
through the committee and then to the athletes.
	Deng's awards are to be the largest of the medalists, a total of
$210,000. Other medalists will receive funds that could set them up for
life in a nation where the average monthly wage is still about $35.
	But Deng said she had so far actually received only a $5,000 check
and a gold soft drink can, and had to borrow the $9,000 she contributed
to a charity project for children's education, the China Daily noted.
	``Shooting champions Wang Yifu and Zhang Shan were worn out
explaining to swarms of freeloaders that they had not got their bonus
yet and after the tax, not too much would be left,'' the newspaper said.
	And women's gymnastic champion Lu Li -- only 15 years old -- had to
turn down an offer to have a gymnastics school named after her. The
school told her she would have to pay for the honor.
==========================================================================
--

===
Zhu Yuchen, Edmonton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: To President Bush.
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:06:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.095753.59462@cc.usu.edu>, haoc@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> In article <BvEqoI.AxM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
|> > 
|> > Dear President Bush:
|> > 
|> > Do you know how many eyes are watching you? They are so many
|> > and they are full of wishes, wishing miracle would happen. Oh,
|> > you are the messenger of lord; you can send them to heaven; 
|> > you can send them to hell. All between your "Y" and "N".
|> > 
|> > Your mighty God, Amen!
|> > 
|> > A Christian.
|> --
|> 
|>   I say , send all of them to hell. 
|> 
|> --- Hao. 
|> *******************************************************************************
|> A flying bullet hit my heart,all of a sudden everything turns dark,oh my god!!!
|> ******************************************************************************** 
What a splendid shot ! Right on the target. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
    <BvJ3D7.9v@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <6784@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> 
    <BvLssx.Juz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:51:27 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:

>In article <6784@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:

>>>What else will D-fighters win?
>>
>>Green card!

>Yijun is too indifferent to green card. Let me raise a personal
>question here: what happen if your wife gets green card and you
>are iligible to get with her?

>You are too sensitive to the green card issue that you consider
>green card is a privilege. Green card is only a minor issue of
>life. Life is much more than that. Just like Chinese citizenship
>is for everyone, but still it does not mean everyone is equal in
>China.

>Try to change your attitude and be more objective.

To be a Chinese American is not a bad thing. But when you say "China killed"
those student it sounds weird. Yes you can explain, but you showed your mind
first, and lost credit.
If there is a war between China and Aemrica, what are you going to do?
If there is a war between Russian and America, what are you going to do?
Then, you know what is in your mind.

>>
>>-- 
>>//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yu@chang.asd.sgi.com (Yu Chang)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Reply-To: yu@chang.asd.sgi.com (Yu Chang)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:25:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.120636.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>,
haiqiu@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

|>   I want to say NO to bombs also. But frankly there are not just
"still" people
|> who gauge the strength of a country by military power. It is the
common sense
|> of MOST of the people that gauge the strenth by military power.
Japan's economy
|> is at least as strong as USA's, if not stronger. (And it will be stronger as
|> predicted.) However compare with USA's super power, Japan is nothing.
|>   During Korea war USA had suggested using the A-Bomb. Fortunately that
|> suggestion is vetoed because of some other worries. It is under such
a thretten
|> that China had to develop the A-Bombs to defend the largest nation in the
|> world. I hope China never have a chance that it need to use A-Bomb to
protect
|> it. However China has got to have it for safety when others have it.

You are certainly right here. CCP must have A-bomb to self protect.
And that is the same *excuse* of the two super powers used.
I sincerely wish everyone in the world did not have to think like you.

It is great that you used Japan as an example.
Now we are talking priority here, is it more important to develope those
bombs for military power or cars for economical power.

Would you like china to be it is or like Japan is now?
I am NOT saying Japan is good but there is priority.

|> > And BTW, whose fault was that of the huge population?
|> 
|>   I have read a book written by Jiang Jie-Shi, the KMT ruler before 1949. I
|> got such a idea that if it is Jiang in mainland after 1949. The population
|> will be much much huger now. For in that book he accused CCP of try
all kinds
|> of method to reduce the Chinese population including massacre, and he said
|> what he will do is encourage the fast growth of the population so China is
|> the Ultra-largest and strongest nation in the world.

Now give me a break.
We are talking about the mistakes made by CCP and Mao.

No matter what is in the book, Chiang still did NOT committed the crime.
Blame it to others and saying it could worse is totally meaningless empty talk.

This is almost worse than the US presidential campaign going on now.
From: you@cs.montana.edu (Xia You)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Are you willing to contact some other Ningbo's
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:23:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Oct5.212305.18098
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

From usenet.coe.montana.edu!you Mon Oct  5 15:15:54 MDT 1992
Article: 71390 of soc.culture.china
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: you@cs.montana.edu (Xia You)
Subject: Are you willing to contact some NINGBO's
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:14:54 GMT

Some days ago,I posted a news to looking for some old friends from Ningbo,
and I have also received some peoples from Ningbo who want to contact to
other peoples from Ningbo.Here I thank them very much.

Are you from Ningbo?Do you want to talk,to exchange information,maybe somedays 
meet some persons from home land and talk by native dialect? OK! 
This is great! Here I come!

Send me a email,talk about you,give me a idea,what you prefer?

Don't lose the chance to make new friends from home land!

You are welcome!

                You,  Xia
                you@fubar.cs.montana.edu
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@apache.dtcc.edu (Wang Gang)
Subject: Has Anyone Received Any E-mail Replies from China?
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:18:48 GMT

Poor Chinese postmasters must have been filled with E-mails rushing in
from US. :-)

Problem is, has anyone received any reply?

How do we know if they recieved at all? :-(

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