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From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Best type of CD changer?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:48:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep8.162754.20955@morrow.stanford.edu> yoda@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) writes:
>In article <92251.192056LLH111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LLH111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>  Hi all.  I'm thinking of getting a new cd player in the $600 area, and
>>I'm also considering getting a changer rather than a single.
>>First of all, which type of changer is better(carousel vs. cartridge), and
>>why?
>>Second, what is a good brand to get?
>>Any speculation and facts would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Nakamichi has reduced prices on their entire line.  At House of Music
>in San Francisco, CD Player 3 is $499 down from $599 and CD Player 2
>is $650 down from $800.
>
>They are both 6 CD changers, but they are neither carousel nor cartridge.
>It uses a patented system called MusicBank which in my opinion is superior
>to all other types.  It operates just like a single disk player.  In fact

>CD Player 3 sounds very good, and I would consider CD Player 2 audiophile
>quality.  CD player 2 has better DA converters.

The best IMHO is carousel, especially ones that you can change discs while
others are playing.  The Nak method worries me that you can't easily get
to any CD, and I imagine theres quite a delay in getting a CD out. Nice
gimmick though.  Personally (prob. because I own one!) I like Onkyo's
CD 606 and CD 909 (I own the 909). It's a _6 disc_ carousel, and allows
you to change up to three discs while one is playing, has peak search, etc.
The 909 has gold connects and copper chassis and variable line outs. Both
have optical out.



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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Will mono VCRs copy HiFi soundtracks?
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:30:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.062224.3033@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         ) writes:
|> I have been told that the HiFi soundtrack on a VCR is encoded into the
|> video track of the tape, not the audio track. Does this mean that you can
|> copy a HiFi video from one mono VCR to another, then play the copied tape
|> on a HiFi VCR and still get the stereo soundtrack coming out?
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Mark Norman           | My university doesn't let me send email.
|> mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz | "We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful..."


When the Beta and VHS rivalry was going on, Sony was determined to show
that Beta was superior and when they came out with Beta HiFi, I read an
article by one of their engineers explaining it and explaining that VHS
could never get such fidelity (up to that point VHS had stereo audio tracks
with Dolby NR, but freq. response was so so). Well the VHS engineers came
up with an interesting kludge, they frequency modulated the audio into
a frequency range that didn't interfere with video and then laid it down
over the video signal.

Since the hifi tracks are modulated into frequencies that don't interfere 
with the video, copying just the video using mono VCRs won't do it as far
as I know.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rajeev@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Rajeev Gupta)
Subject: Noise bars in TV
Originator: rajeev@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Keywords: Interference, Stereo, TV
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:40:34 GMT

	I recently bought a stereo component system and installed it next 
	to my TV and VCR.  Since then, the TV is showing noise bars.  
	These are very prominent on certain VHF channels and less so on 
	others; they are not present on the UHF channels at all.

Relevant facts:

	1)  Placement (approximate) -

	---------						---------
       |         |			 	               |         |
       | speaker |   -----------                -----------    | speaker |
       |         |  | cd player |              |           |   |         |
       |         |   -----------               |    TV     |   |         |
       |         |   -----------   ---------   |           |   |         |
       |         |  |  receiver | |   vcr   |  |           |   |         |
       |         |   -----------   ---------    -----------    |         |
       |         |			 	               |         |
	---------						---------

	2)  The receiver/cd-player, vcr and TV share the same multiple outlet 
	    strip (surge protection etc.).

	3)  The receiver's FM antenna runs along the wall behind the 
	    components.

My attempts:

	I have tried plugging the TV into a different wall outlet;  I have
	removed the receiver's FM antenna; I have switched off (not
	unplugged) all components except the TV; nothing has helped.

My conclusion/question:

	The interference is due to the presence of other components nearby,
	especially motorized ones such as the VCR and the CD player.

	However, when the stereo components were not present, the VCR did
	not interfere.  Also, I had switched the motors on the VCR and CDP
	off.  Finally, there are audio racks that place all such components
	in close proximity.

	So how can I overcome this problem?  Thanks in advance for any
	helping suggestions.

-- Rajeev
          ______     __            ____  _______    _______ ____  ____
         /      \   /  \          /   / /   ___/   /   ___/ \   \/   /
        /   O __/  /  O \    _   /   / /   /_     /   /_     \      /
       /      \   /      \  / \_/   / /   __/__  /   __/__    \    /
      /___/\___\ /___/\___\ \______/ /________/ /________/     \__/
     %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%**%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%
     *                                  * The woods are lovely    *
     %  Rajeev Gupta                    %    dark and deep,       %
     %  Department of Computer Science  % But I have miles to go  %
     *  UCLA                            *    before I sleep ...   *
     %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%**%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Followup-To: The case of the Bumpkin Bill
Date: 8 Sep 1992 20:13:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com
Summary: You must match cables to system requirements.
Keywords: Input / output impedence, inductance, capacitance -- HIKE !!!


>Hmm, I was gullible and bought a used five-foot pair of oft-ballyhooed
>Straightwire Maestro speaker cable.  They were big, beautiful,  expensive, 
>and highly recommended,  sorta like a good (double?)blind date :-)  I thought
>they sounded worse than the no-name crap I had.  I shoulda turned out
>the lights and had a hooded stranger install (or not install) the
>Maestro's to make them at least as good.


(step up on soapbox)

I suspect that in almost all cases, people who purchase high end cabling,
want to hear "better" sound from their systems, but sometimes do not.
This I feel, is not the cable's short comings but, the purchaser's failure
to understand the "sensitivities" of his or hers system.
A potential purchaser of high end cabling should / must first know the input and
output impedences of their support hardware, then go out and locate that
cabling that "matches" that system's "signiture".
In this way, they have a much better chance of getting the most out of their
system.
Many cables react differently in the same sytem.
There are many things to look at, eg. speaker loading, speaker type etc. that
must be looked at before you plunk down your hard earned cash.

What we need is some sort of standard measurement criteria that is printed on
all high end cabling packaging.
It should state it's impedence / capacitance / inductance etc.
They do not want to do this, because it would expose some the the slimers but,
their are some very good cables out there also.
In this way, people could very quickly match up what cables blend into their
systems nicely.


Al


(step down off soapbox)




Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: Stereo Salesman Horror Story.
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:32:34 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov

In article <17004@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, cccsims@underdog.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:
|> 
|>     Advice: Avoid the Good Guys! Here's why...  I went looking for speakers the
|> other day (my old ones were stolen :) ) at the Good Guys.  Once in the store,
|> the salesman on duty quickly steared me towards a new Klipsch speaker that
|> they now carry.  He bagan telling me about how wonderful these speakers sounded
|> while all I could think was, "These speakers sound like crap, I'm surprised
|> Klipsch would put out something that sounds this bad!".  After I politely asked
|> to hear a different pair of speakers, another slaesman comes into the listening 
|> room and starts to remove the Klipsch speakers the salesman had just auditioned
|> for me.  My salesman asks the salesman carrying the speakers out as to why he`s
|> removing them.  He says, "The tweeters are blown on these things and we're
|> sending them back to the company to be fixed."!!!! I simply said "Thanks, I've
|> seen enough" and headed out the door.
|> 
|> 
|> Jonathan Sims
|> jlsims@ucdavis.edu or
|> cccsims@othello.ucdavis.edu
I've had good experiences at the Good Guys here.  All audio stores have good 
and bad salespeople.  The trick is not to believe everything they tell you
and to do some homework before you go there.  

Sam
From: henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Big CD changer
Date: 10 Sep 1992 04:20:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

I believe Madrigal makes an enormous cube which holds/plays 100 CDs.

A wonderful product if you can afford the $13K!

Matthew J. Henken
henken@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: mcelmury@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael McElmury)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Speaker suggestions
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:19:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I'll soon be in the market for a new pair of speakers. I was wondering
what suggestions you people in Net-Land may have. I'd rather not spend 
over $1,500 for the pair, although I would be willing to go a little
higher if it was worth it. My current system is:
                   Adcom GFA-555II (for main speakers)
                   Adcom GFA-535 (for front ambiant speakers)
                   Adcom GTP-500II
                   Adcom GCD-575
                   Yamaha DSP-E300 (digital signal processor and
                                    Dolby Pro-Logic)
                   KEF C-55 (front ambiant)
                   Polk Audio CS100 Center Channel
                   and some pair of Yamaha active servo rear
                   speakers that I forgot the model
I have all StraightWire Flex cables (interconnects and speaker cable). I 
generally listen to "classic rock," (the John Cougar, Stones, type stuff), 
some classical, and stuff like John Hiatt, Bob Mould etc. Unfortunately,
I live in Fargo, North Dakota where there are few higher end audio stores
I can get to some pretty well stocked audio stores on occasion. Anyway,
if any of you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate it.

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bprisco@shearson.com (Bobby Prisco)
Subject: Need Advice
Reply-To: bprisco@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:06:35 GMT



I'm looking for some input on cassette recorders/players. I'm interested in single deck
system with 3 heads (around $700. range). Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 14:13:37 CDT
From: <U37426@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: CARVER

   Is there anyone out there that has any gripes about Carver audio components?
  I seem to hear bits and pieces but nobody can state any facts.  I would be
most interested to hear from somebody that has some strong feelings on the
subject.  As a Carver owner I would not trade my system for any in the world!!
Is there a better amplifier than the Carver TFM-25?  For $650 I think not!!
Anyone with other ideas please mail direct.  Thanks!
From: mkg4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Michael K Gavin)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Any recommendations on compact audio systems?
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:46:06 GMT
Reply-To: mkg4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Michael K Gavin)
Organization: Columbia University

I would like to buy a small (preferably one-piece) stero system for my office.
I simply don't have the space for a standard-sized system, and I'd also
like to be able to take the system with me to my summer office, etc.  I
am interested in the system by Bose, the name of which escapes me now.  It
costs about $1,000, which is not absurd I suppose but is high enough so that
I'd like to hear what someone who has heard it has to say.

All I care about is CD-ROM, I don't need decent radio or tape or anything.
If you know about this Bose system or any similar compact system, I'd
appreciate hearing from you.

I don't get to read this group very often.  I'd appreciate it if you'd reply
by e-mail, and I'll post a summary if I hear anything.

Thanks in advance for your help.

                                    Mike Gavin
                                    mkg4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
                                    uunet!columbia.edu!mkg4
From: KR6AEGRW@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: TAPE SPEED
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:18:59 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Does anyone have a solution for changing the pinch roller speed (or how do
install a pitch controll).  Know mild amounts of electronics
 
 
                                                mail me please
                                                    Karl Reiff
From: cccsims@underdog.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Stereo Salesman Horror Story.
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:50:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: cccsims@underdog.ucdavis.edu


    Advice: Avoid the Good Guys! Here's why...  I went looking for speakers the
other day (my old ones were stolen :) ) at the Good Guys.  Once in the store,
the salesman on duty quickly steared me towards a new Klipsch speaker that
they now carry.  He bagan telling me about how wonderful these speakers sounded
while all I could think was, "These speakers sound like crap, I'm surprised
Klipsch would put out something that sounds this bad!".  After I politely asked
to hear a different pair of speakers, another slaesman comes into the listening 
room and starts to remove the Klipsch speakers the salesman had just auditioned
for me.  My salesman asks the salesman carrying the speakers out as to why he`s
removing them.  He says, "The tweeters are blown on these things and we're
sending them back to the company to be fixed."!!!! I simply said "Thanks, I've
seen enough" and headed out the door.


Jonathan Sims
jlsims@ucdavis.edu or
cccsims@othello.ucdavis.edu
From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Stereo Salesman Horror Story.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:18:32 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

cccsims@underdog.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:

>
>     Advice: Avoid the Good Guys! Here's why...  I went looking for speakers t
> other day (my old ones were stolen :) ) at the Good Guys.  Once in the store,
> the salesman on duty quickly steared me towards a new Klipsch speaker that
> they now carry.  He bagan telling me about how wonderful these speakers sound
> while all I could think was, "These speakers sound like crap, I'm surprised
> Klipsch would put out something that sounds this bad!".  After I politely ask
> to hear a different pair of speakers, another slaesman comes into the listeni
> room and starts to remove the Klipsch speakers the salesman had just audition
> for me.  My salesman asks the salesman carrying the speakers out as to why he
> removing them.  He says, "The tweeters are blown on these things and we're
> sending them back to the company to be fixed."!!!! I simply said "Thanks, I'v
> seen enough" and headed out the door.

        I think we've all had experiences like that..  I remember when I was
buying Car Stereo equipment, I asked some boneheads at a local dive about
lowering the output level of speakers using resistors and such.  The guys told
me there was no way to do this, despite there being an article in Car Stereo
Review not 2 months back!  I said "whatever dude" and walked out the door.

        Always remember:  "Never ask a question you don't already know the
                           answer to!"

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    |  Doug Cha    dcha@flex.com    doug_cha-uhmanoa@uhplato.bitnet   |
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: wakeland@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (ray s wakeland)
Subject: Sapphire II
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:37:52 GMT

I have recently subscribed to Speaker Builder Magazine.  In 
this mag there is much discussion of a speaker called the 
Sapphire II, often used with a subwoofer called the Sub I.  I 
guess it is available as a kit.  It seems to be a standard against 
which others are compared.

My question is:  If this speaker is so great, why have I never 
seen any mention of it in any other magazine or in rec.audio?  
Have any rec.audio readers heard this speaker?

Ray Wakeland
wakeland@ucs.indiana.edu
From: andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Summary: there's more to sound than wire
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:01:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23653
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ




	while despairing of another round of useless flaming about wires,
i will take aim at techno-bigots like graham b. 

	as usual, they ignore the interaction between amp, cables and
speakers. even if your goal is perfectly flat response (and that is
debatable), then maybe an exotic (perhaps highish capacitance for example)
cable will do that for your speakers and amplifier. of course, if
a speaker was an absolutely uniform load to a zero output impendance
amplifier, then what you say is probably true. unfortunately, i don't
have such amplifiers/speakers.

	i might point out that i do use 16ga speaker cables in my current
system and they are not the weakest link. when they are, i will work
on them then.

			andrew
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: vbaliga@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Vijay Baliga)
Subject: SALE: Shortwave Double Cassette Stereo
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:12:17 GMT


SALE: Shortwave Stereo Double Cassette Recorder

1) World Band Receiver (Shortwave, Mediumwave, FM)

2) Digital Display / Tuning
3) 20 Station Preset

4) On/Off Timer and Sleep Timer Functions
5) Timer Recording

6) 3 Band Graphic Equalizer
7) High Speed Dubbing

8) It has an adapter for 110 V use. By getting an X volts AC to 9 V DC
   converter, it can be used anywhere in the world.

9) 1.5 months old; still in warranty period
10) Complete Manuals

11) $$ Best offer in one week. It cost me $85.

I want to sell it because I have recently received a more expensive
system as a gift. Please indicate your offer including shipping. 

Thanks,
Vijay
-- 
Vijay Baliga
Phone: (812) 323 1445
Email: vbaliga@cs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: deb5584@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.E. Baker )
Subject: Dolby Pro Logic in Music and Vidio Tapes anyone ?????
Originator: deb5584@ultb
Reply-To: deb5584@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:43:50 GMT

I just purchased a Yamaha Rcvr. with Dolby pro logic and was wondering
how much of today's music is encoded Dolby pro.  I got it mostly
for a Hi Fi VCR to use for special effects in movies but I don't know
what is happening when I use music.  With music it sounds choppy and a bit 
unnatural so I am assuming that the music I have used wasn't encoded
with Dolby pro.  I know my unit doesn't have a indicator light to tell
weather or not the source is encoded Dolby pro but do any other units 
have any indication ?  Does anyone know of any music which is encoded 
with Dolby Pro ?  Any reply would be appreciated.

                                                Thanks,
                                                Doug
From: miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod beeblebrox)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: CD pricing
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:46:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep15.140231.21237@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>In article <-17462460@nemesis> root@nemesis.UUCP writes:
>uhclem - if you have such discount houses as Costco, Sam's Wholesale
>Clubs, or their equivalent, you would see just how cheap the Laserlight
>disks are.   The typically 10 CD package sells in those store for a few
>cents under $27.  That's $2.70/disk.
			  ^^^^^^^^^^

Then the government takes their cut.

			Zaphod
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Big CD changer
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:04:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.114225.1@us.oracle.com> bkush@us.oracle.com (Brian Kush) writes:
>Anyboby with any info on a 100 or so disc changer??  Ideally I would 
>like to get one like in a Jukebox and hook it up to a computer to control it.
>
>I guess I am just lazy and don't want to get up to put in disc number 7.
>
>Thanks
>

Yup..... Madrigal AUdio Labs makes PROCEED - a 100 CD library/CD player.
COsts a buncha $$$ (like 4 to 5K).... available from the Audible Difference -
a snooty shop down in University Avenue near Stanford.....

BTW Madrigal are the dudes who make Mark Levinson stuff... so,  I
guess you can find it in any store that carries ML stuff.



-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Identify 3M tape, please
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:52:30 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <16354@pitt.UUCP> hoffman@cs.pitt.edu (Bob Hoffman) writes:
>I recently came across some 3M recording tape that I can't identify.
>Would someone with a 3M catalog please look this part number up and
>tell me what application this tape is designed for?  The part number
>is "8206-1/4-3600 RL".

Please wait for a reply that verifies this but I believe that you have
a 3600 foot reel of 8206 tape.

the first numbers indicate the "model" number of the tape= 8206
the 1/4= 1/4" wide tape
the 3600= 3600 feet of tape
the RL indicates that it is on a reel and not on a hub.

The 8206 is the new formulation of the old standard 206.

Next!

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio