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From: kjt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KENNETH JAMES TSANG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: FAQ on SVGA boards needed
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:10:47 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

If someone out there has a FAQ on video boards, could they please post it or
at least tell me if there is someplace I can ftp it?  This would help me a
great deal since I am looking to upgrade to SVGA and my computer has a funky
setup (the VGA board is built into the system board and has a VGA features
connector).
                        THANKS,
                           Ken
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Rediculously slow floppy drives after 286->486 upgrade.  Help?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:07:55 GMT


	I upgraded my system from a 286/12.5 to a 486/33.  I took
	the two drives that came with my 286 (1.44M and 1.2M), and put
	them in the 486.

	Now I know that floppy drive access under DR-DOS 6.0 is slow,
	but now it is painfully slow.  In fact, it seems slower than
	when I had the 286.

	Anyone have any suggestions or insight?  I don't have the slow
	drive access problem under OS/2 2.0.  


Shaun Burnett		    |	"You can't survive on a new planet with a
widow@camelot.bradley.edu   |	soul full of hope and fresh air you know."
OS/2--Happy Happy Joy Joy--OS/2		-  Dr. Who (Tom Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: New IBM Monitor Unable In OS/2?!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:40:31 GMT

In <1992Dec11.170211.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> singer@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:

>I have been looking at an IBM Value Point 486SX with OS/2, and the IBM 
>6319 Value Point monitor. Despite the advertising copy, what I see is 
>a fuzzy screen of about the same quality as any no-name monitor of
>half the price. The man at the computer store on campus says that the
>reason for the poor quality is that IBM doesn't supply proper drivers
>for its own monitor, that possibly one can get better quality by
>buying a new video card. This sounds astonishing to me. Is it possible
>that IBM would put out a new system which is not capable of driving
>its own monitor, or could there be some other explanation?-- 

 For those who don't know. The 6319 is a 15" flat screen monitor
option now shipping with the PS/ValuePoint series.

 This is curiously interesting.  I'll know for certain within the
next week, as I have on order a 486DX33 system with the 6319
monitor.

 I suspect that the sales droid is not being truthful.  Fact, they
probably don't know, and are just trying to make a save on the sale.
I've not been impressed with the IBM monitors shipping with the
PS/1 series, and I suspect they have the same problem.

 Difference tho, while the picture might be as bad as the generic
monitor you might get with a generic PC clone, I'm willing to bet
that the quality is much better.  I.e. you won't need to replace the
power supply after 6 months.  I hope anyway.

 Again, I'll have a better opinion of them once I've sat down with
it in my home and played with it.
-- 
sheldon@iastate.edu                Steve Sheldon
This space left intentionally      ICSS Resource Facility
blank.                             Iowa State University
From: 93gke@williams.edu (oldwanda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What's the deal? My chip says "SX-25"; Norton says "SX-33"
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:57:03 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hancock.cc.williams.edu

Thanks to all the people who responded, to summarize for the others:
It seems that I have been ripped off because the vendor pushed the
chip beyond its rating, that is, 8 Mhz faster than it was tested for.
There is a wide range of opinions on whether or not I should be
worried about this.  Some people asserted that it would kill my chip
soon while others claimed that Intel makes ALL its chips for 33Mhz,
and only tests the ones at 33Mhz if it plans to sell them at 33Mhz.
The rest are tested at lower clock rates. This would imply that if the
chip works at 33Mhz, then it is just as good as 33Mhz.
However, I don't appreciate being lied to and taken advantage of.
I intend to pursue this matter with MOTHERBOARD WAREHOUSE, the slimy
outfit that pulled this crap on me.
Dont give them any business.

Greg Ennis
93gke@cs.williams.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: NEC Hard drive for 386
From: parry_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Parry)
Date: 19 Dec 1992 21:45:54 GMT
Reply-To: parry_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Yo All!
 
A friend of mine who has temporarily lost his access to the 
net has a small problem.  He has purchased, a while back 
(beginning of the year), a 386sux20.  It came with a 40M 
MFM/RLL hard drive.
 
Problem is, he decided to add a new drive yesterday.  Ripped 
open his machine, and found a great deal of processor 
technology on the drive.  If I didn't know better, I'd think 
it was an IDE - it's got a processor and all.
 
The controller is an MFM type, and the drive goes, and I 
quote, "Heniously fucking slow".  It has two huge heat sinks, 
lots of chips, huge motors, and bloody _gears_, for cryin' out 
loud.  Too much for an MFM drive, methinks...
 
So, the model is:  NEC DEM-204N
 
Anybody had any experience with these drives, drop me a line 
(email, please, I don't normally get this group) - we want to 
know what it does! 8-)
 
Cheers!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Mac & PC living together ????
Summary: Adaptec 1542C
Originator: chiu@alumni
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:13:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.064143.27289@netcom.com> bsardis@netcom.com (Barry Sardis) writes:
>bambi@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Stefan Bamberger) writes:

>>Hi netters,

>>I'm going to buy a DOS computer with a SCSI disk controller. I decided for
>>the Adaptec 1542B, because of trying to minimalize any compatibility and
>>driver problems.

>>1.) I heared of an Adaptec 1542C. Is it better, faster, cheaper? 

>I have a B - never heard of a C.

1542C is a newer version of 1542B; supposely allows larger capacity drives
(exact number escapes me at this time)

>Barry Sardis		| Home:   (408) 448-1589
>Email: bsardis@netcom.COM or 70105.1210@compuserve.COM


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: eckert@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: Re: Ati Ultra Pro question
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:31:03 GMT

While not an ATI Ultra Pro question, I do have a question about my ATI
Ultra board (from G2k).  When I changed from the OEM ATI board to the
Ultra, I seem to have lost a really deep black color.  Is there an
adjustment for this on the board? in some ATI utility?  The monitor is a
NEC 3d.  When windows is running, you can see the normal black background,
but to get the colors right, the brightness needs to be turned up till the
retrace is almost visible, hence the window is pasted on this sort of dark
grey background.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lnz@lucid.com (Leonard N. Zubkoff)
Subject: Graphics Card?
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:00:36 GMT

I am trying to find out which graphics cards support 1280x1024 displays with 70
Hz refresh, as I have a monitor available with this fixed set of parameters.

If you know of such a card, please drop me a note.  Thanks.

		Leonard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:52:29 GMT

In article <yjc-111292095422@b61539.student.cwru.edu> yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome 'TofuSoft' Chan) writes:

>As for Apps closing when the last window is closed, I don't think this is a
>disadvantage. What happens if the user accidently closes the last document?
>The application would have to be loaded in once again. The user should
>choose quit if he really wants to quit. Of course, application authors
>could choose to quit the applications when the last document is closed.
>Whoops! Since Window applications have their own windows, I assume you mean
>THAT window? The Main application Window? True, the finder interface does
>not give any indication of applications running unless the user requests
>for it. (Either through the about box or running over to the application
>icon.)

This wouldn't be such a problem if System 7 didn't assign a fixed stack
to the apps that didn't close. They're still there taking up RAM. Even 
worse, you get memory fragmentation if you close an app that you opened
earlier than a second app which is still running. A third app can perhaps
run in the space once occupied by the first app plus whatever is on top 
of the second, but it won't, since the memory is in two fragments. 

>There are finder substitutes. At Ease, Kid Desk (for Kids), Tiles and the
>one that looks like a filing cabinet in an office(?) In my opinion, these
>things don't sell very well since the user can stack in tons of extentions
>and control panels to modify the basic system interface.

Heheh...

I had a look at one of the new Performas at Sears the other day and guess
what was on it. The filing cabinet desktop.

I suppose the same is true for alternative Windows shells, but NDW and Win
Tools (what they call Aporia now I guess) are supposedly selling well...







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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: law30056@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KEN HWEE)
Subject: Strange Monitor Problem
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:07:29 GMT


I would appreciate some assistance:

My Acer Monitor has a strange problem.  When I start up the computer, it
refuses to display 800x600x32k.  My Windows (set up for 32k colors)
startup screen will be displayed, then when the ProgMan screen comes up,
it goes black.  There is a transient image that darkens as if someone is
turning down the brightness very quickly.  After 5-10 minutes of warming
up (depends on how cold or hot a day it is) the image pops back onto
screen in all its 32k glory.  All adjusting and fidgeting will not help
the situation before it has had the time to warm up.
 
Someone suggested that the problem is with 800x600 and not the 32k.
Well, I've checked and it ain't so.  The Windows SVGA driver will work
fine meaning that 800x600x16 is ok even if its a freezing night (in
Singapore, about as often as a camel in the desert).

Anyway, I would appreciate advice from anyone who's witnessed similar
problems before or knows what the likely cause is.  Email is preferred
since this group moves so quickly I might miss a post.

Thanks in advance

KenHwee Tan
National University of Singapore
Internet: Law30056@nusunix.nus.sg
Bitnet  : Law30056@nusvm.nus.sg
From: ynecjac@cid.aes.doe.CA (Jacques Deslauriers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: ESDI and MFN
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:35:57 GMT
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers


      I have seen a lot of discussion about IDE and MFN coexisting
      in the same system. I have a system with a pair of 40M MFN
      drives and I would like to add an ESDI drive or replace one
      of the 40M drive with the ESDI one.

      Has anyone got information on how to do this?

      Thanks.

      Jacques Deslauriers
From: ken@sugra.uucp (Kenneth Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD rubbish????
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:27:16 GMT
Organization: Private Computer, Totowa, NJ

In article <1992Dec8.093121.89@roads.sa.gov.au: wilsonn@roads.sa.gov.au writes:
:I'm thinking of buying a PC, either a AMD386DX40 or an Intel 486SX25 - 33. I've
:been told that the AMD chip is unreliable and would appreciate some feedback.
:Comments on relative speed between the machines also would be helpful. 

If the AMD chip did not perform completely like an Intel, you would see Intel
plastering that all over their advertisements.

-- 
Kenneth Ng
Please reply to ken@eies2.njit.edu for now.
Apple and AT&T lawsuits: Just say NO!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: syny@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (R Craig Stevenson)
Subject: Re: 3-chip vs 9-chip SIMMs?
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:28:27 GMT

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware you write:

> Not on all computers! The problem is that the 3 chip SIMMs have a
> refresh cycle that differs from the 9 chip SIMMs. Older motherboards
> can run into problems when they can't refresh the 3 chip SIMMs
> properly. Newer motherboards don't have this problem, as most of them
> support but the 9 chip and 3 chip versions.

A slightly different but related question:

Are there differences in refresh rates between 80ns and 70ns (both
9 chip) SIMMS?  If I have an older motherboard which is only rated for
80ns SIMMS (i.e. the chips listed in the manual as "certified" are all
80 or 100ns chips), is there any problem using faster (60 or 70ns)
chips instead?

And if the faster chips will work, can anyone tell me if using 70ns
will allow me to run my machine (386-33dx, OPTI) with 0 wait state
rather then the 1 wait state it currently requires?

-- Craig
From: gnd@idaho.amdahl.com (Greg Darnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: IDE drive reads/writes ok but can't boot?
Keywords: Gateway 386SX
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:02:21 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp., Rexburg, ID

I had a Maxtor 7120 120MB IDE drive in an old AT, using an IDE controller
with a BIOS since the AT didn't have user-configurable drive types.
I upgraded to a 386SX/16 motherboard from a Gateway 2000 machine with
an AMI BIOS from 1989.  When the system powers on, the floppies and
hard drive all get reset, the hard drive is accessed for just a second,
then I get the message:

HDD Controller Failure
Press <F1> to continue

The system will then boot from the floppy fine, and then I can switch
to C: and run everything as normal.  I thought the BIOS on the IDE card
was the problem, so I tried a normal IDE card without BIOS, with the
same results.  I thought maybe the BIOS wouldn't work with IDE, but it
turns out the previous owner of the motherboard was using IDE.  Using
Norton's diskedit the boot records and partition tables all look fine.
Using Norton's calibrate the preliminary tests say there is a HDD
controller malfunction and it should be replaced, yet both controllers
work okay with other motherboards.

Does anyone have any ideas on what else to try?  The board is made by
FTK; maybe only certain IDE controllers work with it (seems doubtful)?
Any magic CMOS parameters that might help (NEAT chipset)?

Thanks in advance
  Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Beef Sandwich - Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:40:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec6.133632.1299@global.hacktic.nl> peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:

>And who cares about Windows NT anyway?

Oh.... just a few tens of thousands of people here and 
there.. nothing to speak of I guess..



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: colfelt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew BW Colfelt)
Subject: Re: AT looses CMOS power (with new battery) Clues?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:57:21 GMT

THOGER@bg1.hbg.hydro.no (Terje Thoegersen) writes:

>My problem is that even with a new, working battery installed (correctly,
>too..) the machine comes back up after a power-off with "system options
>not set - run setup". This happens when the power has been off for more 
>than, say, 5 minutes or so.

Consult the manual that goes with the motherboard,
or obtain the following information from a reliable
source:

There is a jumper on the motherboard that is used 
to select Internal/External battery source.  It is
likely to be located near the on-board battery.
It should be a 3-pin jumper, near a 4-pin connection
for an external battery pack.

If the machine you inherited had a bad on-board 
battery, and the previous owner used an external
4 x AA pack, it is likely that the pack did not
survive the second ownership transfer.


-- 
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Colfelt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
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From: skum@bessel.umd.edu (Allon Stern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: NEC Multispeed HD questions
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:36:01 GMT
Organization: Skum Knows Unix, Maybe

I was recently given a NEC Multispeed HD lap(?)top...
the 20 meg drive was dead...

1) anybody have a clue as to what kind of hard drive goes into this beast?
2) if I replaced the 720k drive with a  1.44 meg floppy drive, would it work?
3) anybody have an internal modem for this beast, or know what the pinouts
   of the internal modem port are?

Thanks!
--
Allon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tpp@cbnews.cb.att.com (thomas.p.pschar)
Subject: Re: Where the mac really wins
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:04:40 GMT

In article <18386@borg.cs.unc.edu> lari@strauss.cs.unc.edu (Humayun Lari) writes:
>In article <BzBEGJ.C58@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>>>hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson) writes:
>>>>any GUI that forces me to double click to close a window does not deserve my
>>>>attention.
>>
>>Well I could say something about a GUI that forces me to select
>>File then Quit to close an app 
>
>Um, closing a window is a much more common act than quitting an application.
>At least for me. Perhaps Windows requires you to constantly quit apps?
>Sounds like fun. :-)

Get a life.  One click to close (minimize), two clicks (or a click and a drag)
to quit.

>
>Thanks, Iskandar. As usual, you're doing a wonderful job of convincing me
>how incredible the Mac really is. Keep at it!
>
>
>Humayun Lari
>(lari@cs.unc.edu)

(Yawn)


Tom Pschar

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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Bus def's ==> Re: EISA vs. ISA (& VESA, VL-bus, Local bus)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:12:05 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

tomw@orac.asd.sgi.com (Tom Weinstein) writes:

>This is right.  A lot of people run their ISA bus at 10 MHz.  Some even
>run it as fast as 16.  There are some cards that don't work right for
>anything faster than 8, though.  A transaction takes 4 cycles, which
>means you get a maximum throughput of 4 MB/s (8Mhz * 2 bytes / 4).

Hmmm, the VIDSPEED benchmark says that my video card does 6.4M/s. That is
significantly more than 4... How come?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet)
Subject: Re: Ati Ultra Pro question
Keywords: ati ultra pro
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:56:53 GMT

harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp) writes:

>You mean to tell me that the MACH32 drivers don't crash windows about every
>ten minutes?  It does on the Gateway 486DX2/66V that I deal with.  Build 50
>seems about as horrible as 44 or 46.  Gateway hasn't got a clue how bad the
>problem is.  I hope that ATI does.

I have had my 66V with the Ultra Pro for almost a month now.  I use the
Mach32 drivers almost exclusively.  My system doesn't crash every ten
minutes.  In fact, it only crashes about once a week or when I am fiddling
around with things I shouldn't be.  Perhaps the problems you have seen are
related to some other part of the system, like a software package.  Build
50 _does_ crash often when you turn on the Crystal Fonts (by including the
line CrystalFonts=on in the mach32 section of your win.ini file), but it
clearly states in the build 50 readme that this is a beta feature and not
really recommended. 

------------------------
Kevin Fluet
fluet@ee.ualberta.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: cheung@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Bryan Cheung)
Subject: Can Mac monitors be used on IBM/Compatible machines??
Organization: DuPont Engineering Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:25:22 GMT

Hi,
   I know this has been asked before, but I have never seen a clear
response to this question, so I'm asking again, and I'll post a 
summary if there is interest. Also, I freely admit to being a computer-bigot,
so please post flames to alt.religion.computer (and beware!).

   I would like to know if anyone has ever interfaced a Macintosh-compatible
monitor (b&w, color, high-res color, etc). to ANY video interface
available for IBM/IBM Compatible PCs. It is very simple to go the other
way (e.g. put EGA/VGA/SVGA on a Mac), but sane people don't usually do that
if they have a choice ;-).
   This question stems from an admittedly perverse desire to be able
to purchase some sort of high quality monitor technology that is 
useable (by whatever technical gyrations) on both hardware platforms.
In my particular case I would like to find a way to interface the
superior video technology (IMHO) available for Macs (religous preference)
on "standard" DOS hardware (to atone for sins in a past life).
   Has anyone ever done this?? Having done it, was it worth the
dollars and neurons it took to make it happen?? Please respond via
e-mail to the address below if you have any experience or interest
in this regard.
                        Thanks in advance,


-- 

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From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: The Best system!
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:59:24 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: 93gke@williams.edu's message of 11 Dec 92 21:03:28 GMT
bcc: carl


>>reaches the best new solution:  The DX2-100 will be readily
>>installable on the multiboard since it is configured to handle the
>>Intel 486DX-50 chip.

>There won't be a DX2-100. Too hot. Forget 50Mhz motherboards, you
>don't need them. Go directly to 66-DX2 with a 33Mhz board.

Then why is IBM going to produce a DX3 - 99 mhz internal and 33 mhz
external???  Blanket statements like "Too hot" are misleading.  A more
accurate statement is "Too hot with the current design".

-Carl-

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