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From: rags@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Robert A. G. Seely)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Arbeau's Orch'esographie; from 1589 on CD?
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:58:35 GMT
Organization: Dept Of Mathematics and Statistics


The Orchesographie has been recorded a few times - my current favorite
version is a disc from the early 80's by the Broadside Band on Harmonia
Mundi - I just looked up my copy and it has the number HMC901152 - don't
know if that's still current.  BTW, the book of the same name has been
published in English translation by Dover, I think.  (I cannot put my hands
on my copy now - I think I lent it to someone ...!!)

-rags
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: mvalinis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael J Valinis)
Subject: Re: recorder timbre
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:58:56 GMT


Mike,

If I may make a suggestion... try taping yourself playing your buzzy recorder, 
or have a friend play it while you listen from a short distance away.  I have 
some very nice recorders that drove me crazy at first because I thought they 
were raspy sounding...UNTIL it was pointd out to me that the buzz is 
indistinguishable from a distance of more than a few feet.  Hang in there; 
you'll get used to it.  However, you didn't say whether you wanted to play 
primarily for your own enjoyment or for that of others.  If for others, you may
want to put up with something buzzy that sounds great at a distance; if for 
yourself, you may want something that's a little less distracting up close.

More experienced recorder players may disagree totally with me on this, but I'm
just speaking from my own experience.... :-)
-- 
=>   Michael J. Valinis   -=+{*}+=-   mvalinis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu   <=
+>=>             "The way to write American music is simple.             <=<+
=>+>=>       All you have to do is be an American and then write       <=<+<=
+>=>+>=>        any kind of music you wish."  -Virgil Thomson        <=<+<=<+
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: rags@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Robert A. G. Seely)
Subject: Re: Arbeau's Orch'esographie; from 1589 on CD?
Organization: Dept Of Mathematics and Statistics
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:19:56 GMT

"The Birds" was written by Respighi.
And related - there is a fine "back-formation" recording by Paul O'Dette (et
al) of the original lute pieces that Respighi used for his "Ancient Airs and
Dances" - so here we get "original recording" based on a "derived"
composition.  (Hyperion CDA 66228)

-rags
From: john@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Some UK publications
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:17:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In article <01GPKA93QBPS001E9T@GONZAGA.EDU> of rec.music.early James Quinn writes:
>
>Dear Mr. Murdie:
> 
>Can you post the mailing address for the Musical Times calendar (for those
>of us who would rather not add the price of an overseas call to the cost
>of it)?  Thank you very much.
> 
>James Quinn
>Quinn@Gonzaga

I repost the information, this time including a postal address. My apologies
for having omitted it last time:

The Musical Times (published by the Oxford University Press) is selling a
full colour 12-page Early Music Calendar for 1993. It features paintings
which have appeared on the cover of the OUP's journal Early Music.

Copies are available for #6-95 (1 off), #6-25 (2-9 off) or #5-95 (10 up),
including UK P+P. There is a surcharge of #1 for overseas postage. You may
order by phone and pay by credit card by phoning 0858 410222. Please allow
up to 28 days for delivery in UK, up to 42 days if overseas.

You may pay in US $ for orders placed in the US: $11-95 (1 off), $10-95
(2-9 off) or $9-95 (10 up), including P+P. Credit card orders may be placed
by phone to 011 44 858 410222. Please allow up to 42 days for delivery.

Their postal address is:

		The Musical Times
		PO Box 500
		Leicester
		LE99 0AA
		England

Cheques should be made payable to: "Orpheus Publications Ltd.".

----

I have no connection with NEMA or the Musical Times, except as an
intending purchaser of these publications. :-)

John A. Murdie
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Arvo Part (review of ARBOS)
Date: 11 Oct 1992 16:54:59 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct10.033246.27550@emr1.emr.ca> davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson) writes:
>I finally got a CD of Arvo Parts ARBOS. When ever I think of modern compositions
>with early-music roots A. Part comes to mind. He is an Estonian whose music
>is greatly influenced by the Eastern Church. Whether or not it is liturgical,
>it is concerned with the numinous.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the numinous?

By the way, other Paert links to early music include complex canons which
are not really audible as such. It reminds me more of a combination of
medieval harmonic stasis and 15th century pan-isorhythm.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Stephen Bloch)
Subject: Re: Phildelphia REn wind Band
Organization: Computer Science, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:04:54 GMT

JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Laurie Brandt) writes:
>Also A firend of mind told be about a work called Thomas Tallows Cannon,

I think this is a confusion of two things: a famous piece of music by
Tallis, commonly referred to as Tallis's canon, and an English
Renaissance dance (which MAY have particular music associated with it;
I haven't succeeded in tracking it down) called John Tallows's Canon.
(When I learned the dance we did it to Tangerine Dream :)  I've never
actually tried dancing the dance to Tallis's canon, although it might
well work; the dance really is in canon form.

-- 
					Stephen Bloch
				sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: russell@moravian.edu (James C. Russell)
Subject: Baltimore Consort candidate for Grammy
Summary: The Baltimore Consort nominated for "Watkins Ale"
Keywords: Baltimore Consort Grammy
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:34:37 EDT

  The Baltimore Consort was recently notified that the group's second
release, "Watkins Ale:Music of the English Renaissance," has been
selected as a candidate for a 1993 Grammy Award.  The Disc was nominated
by Dorian Recordings and Allegra Imports, and enters a pool of other
classical discs from which several finalists will be selected.
  Last week, the consort recorded a disc of popular French Renaissance 
music, which will be released next fall.  The ensemble's third disc, "The
Art of the Bawdy Song," is scheduled to be released on November 1.
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Arbeau's Orch'esographie; from 1589 on CD?
From: strauss@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:47:24 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: strauss

A question:  I have a CD, London, 417 778-2, called Vaughn Williams, with
Neville Marriner and Academy of St. Martin, etc. 
One piece they do is Capriol Suite, by Peter Warlock. There is a pavane in it
that sounds very familiar. The piece referred to in the notes is: "Arbeau's
well-known dance manual of 1589, the Orch'esographie."

Now, this title isn't familiar to me, but the pavane is. My question (finally!)
is, does anyone know of a CD with that piece, by Arbeau?  Sounds like a "must
have" for my collection.

Thanks,

Bob Strauss
strauss@uncavx.unca.edu
or
strauss@unca.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Arbeau's Orch'esographie; from 1589 on CD?
From: "(Joan Boorstein)" <boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU>
Date: 12 Oct 1992 08:17:51 -0400
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Bob Strauss (strauss@uncavx.unca.edu) asks:
 
>A question:  I have a CD, London, 417 778-2, called Vaughn Williams, with
>Neville Marriner and Academy of St. Martin, etc.
>One piece they do is Capriol Suite, by Peter Warlock. There is a pavane in it
>that sounds very familiar. The piece referred to in the notes is: "Arbeau's
>well-known dance manual of 1589, the Orch'esographie."
 
>Now, this title isn't familiar to me, but the pavane is. My question (finally!)
>is, does anyone know of a CD with that piece, by Arbeau?  Sounds like a "must
>have" for my collection.
 
It is important to note that there is no such 'piece' as Arbeau's
_Orch'esographie_.  This publication is a dance manual and contains directions
(as well as music) for many 16th C. dances (pavan, bransle, galliard,
canary, courante, allemande, etc.; sometimes many versions of the same).
As has already been noted probably the most well-known musical example
is the pavane _Belle, qui tiens ma vie_.
 
I have not heard the Broadside Band recording already mentioned.  Does it
contain all the musical examples found in Arbeau?
 
--- Joan Boorstein (boorstein%umbsky.dnet@ns.umb.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: zalewk@rpi.edu (Kenny Zalewski)
Subject: BMG 800 number
Organization: Computer Science Department/Intramural Department at RPI
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:22:58 GMT

Can someone please post the (800) number for BMG compact disc club?  I'd
like to be able to call them and stop the automatic sending of a selection
of the month.  Thanks.           -- kennyz

-- 
Kenny Zalewski -- Computer Science Department; Intramural Department
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, 83 Albright Court, Troy, NY, 12180
zalewk@rpi.edu | Kenny_Zalewski@mts.rpi.edu | zalewk@RPITSMTS.bitnet
"Keep your words soft and sweet, in case you have to eat them."
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Gold CDs (was CDs are timebombs?)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:20:04 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

mpdixon@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL P DIXON) writes:

>Alright, I read the other people's responses.  The thing that has some truth
>is that if your CD has a very deep scratch the aluminum may oxidize and the
>CD would not operate correctly.  That is why they cave come out with the 
>overpriced "GOLD" CD's.  They should not have that problem if scratched.

>The moral of the story, DON'T SCRATCH YOUR CD'S!

No. The reason they came out with *GOLD* CDs is because the marketing
division needs all the gimmicks it can get!  Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs,
the first company to produce gold discs, used to make very fine Half-speed
mastered LPs on virgin vinyl with an anti-static innersleeve.  With the
advent of digital (nondegrading) CDs, all those factors became irrelevant.
They still use the best possible masters, but they also needed gimmicks
like the gold, the flip-up jewel box, etc. in order to impress upon the
average joe/janet that these are *special* CDs.

BTW, I have nothing against the companies producing these discs! There are
many cases where the sound quality *is* *much* better than the standard
release (usually due to better masters used). I also applaud some of their
other efforts (such as including both *mono* and *stereo* versions of a
Cream album on the same disk).

And in their defense, aside from the marketing and the gold, one of the
*main* reasons that the *gold* CDs are so expensive is because they are
all *limited* editions!!  Those companies sign a licensing agreement with
the company that owns the recordings to produce a certain number (maybe,
500,000) of the gold discs and no more! Once they're gone, they're gone.
That's all.

You now have my $.02.

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs are timebombs?
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <92289.220656LLH111@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LLH111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>It is quite a coincidence that this should come up now.  Just today,
>I went to my local all-used cd store and talked to the owner about
>some odd holes in the aluminum of some of my discs.  He said he's seen
>this on many old discs, and calls it 'laser rot'(not because the laser has
>anything to do with it, but just because it's cds he's talking about).
>The manefestation of the 'rot' is small pinholes which show up when the cd
>is held up to a light.  The store owner claims that when these show up on
>a cd, they get progressively larger and more numerous...
>..
>Richard

These pinholes are sometimes visible in brand new CDs (ie., recently pressed, 
new releases).  So I think their presence may have more to do with the 
[sloppy] manufacturing process of the CDs than the aging of the discs.

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 02254-9110       >
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: CDs mastered at a too low volume level?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:29:01 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:22:14 GMT


Folks,

I have around 370 cds and I only have 2 that have this problem.  It seems
like they were mastered at too low of a volume.  Most of my cds that I
have the same 'loudness' at a certain volume level.  These two, however,
need to have the volume increased (using technical terms here!) by about
20% to be as loud.  The two in question are:

Police - Synchronicity
Shonen Knife - 720

(BTW, the Shonen Knife one got me a few times at the radio station I work
with.  One of the CD players needs its volume completely potted up to
match the volume level of the rest of the sources.  I put that CD in and
couldn't get it loud enough to match levels from the previous song.  
Sounded really bad over the air.)

Anyone else notice this?  Are there any known problems with these two
CDs?  (Consipiracy theory for the Police one: Did A&M master it at a
lower level to make the 'gold' version of the CD sound better?  Probably
not - that would be too smart for a record company.  Right?)

A trivial thing compared to people starving in the world but I JUST GOTTA
KNOW!
-----------------------------------
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com

Remember, David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan)
Subject: Re: One way to keep CD cases in good condition
Keywords: CD longevity plastic sandwich bag preservation
Organization: The Smelly Ditch
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:53:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.212031.29978@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:

-} I have even seen one retailer selling the jewel boxes without the brown
-} (usually) plastic tray in it. You get only the 2 clear pieces that make up
-} the outside. The good part is, they only cost $0.50 each. I think most will
-} agree that its almost always the top outside "door" that gets broke. At any
-} rate, the inner tray almost never does.

	That's not such a good deal.  The local, non-chain music store here
sells complete jewel cases for 50 cents each.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
``written by a drunken insane pathological liar''        guru@stasi.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: istre@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: Will X-Ray machines damage CD's?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:52:25 GMT

This weekend, I will be flying to Chicago and want to take my portable
CD player and some CD's on the plane to listen to during the flight.
I have heard that X-Ray machines used at the airports will damage CD's.
Can anyone out there tell me if this is true or not?
 
Thanks in advance for your responses.
-Mitch-
From: dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: DOORS ON CD
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:45:58 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct14.155232.9004@vestek.com>, marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.231244.24635@ncar.ucar.edu> kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
>>> = runem@edb.tih.no writes:
>>>
>>>Could somebody tell me if JIM MORRISON'S "An American Prayer" is available
>>>on CD, and where?
>>
>>I hope I'm wrong, but I think not.
>>Anybody know why?
>>-Brian

"American Prayer" I hear is coming out sometime within the next few months
in a box set that Ray is putting together, along with I think another 
"Best of CD" and some live stuff.

> 
>      What about 'Weird scenes inside the goldmine' ?
> 
 "Weird Scenes" has been deleted from the Elektra catalog :-(
 I heard that they will be at least putting "Who Scared You" on the new
 pressings of "The Best of the Doors" Double CD they already have. ;-)


>      Marcus
> 
  >
Marcus, I lost your address - Email me again.

-dave
From: esury@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr A J Smaller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Help on song in Listerine Commercial---Please!
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:56:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Oct14.200306.1272@ncsu.edu> msengup@eos.ncsu.edu (MAITREYA  SENGUPTA) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.010819.13508@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, nwchritton@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Badass Gremlin) writes:
>|> I want the name of the song and the artists for the Listerine commecial.
>
>	As Far as I can remember, the Listerine ad jingle is based on the song
>'Tarzan Boy' by a group called 'Baltimora'. 
>
>	This song was on the British charts (Top Twenty) for quite a while in 
>the early-mid 80's, but I don't know if it was ever popular in the US. So if 

It was included on the British "Now Thats What I Call Music"
compilation series ... I know, 'cos I have it :-) Umm, must have been
volume 7 or 8, or thereabouts. Don't know if those earlier ones came
out on CD though, I only have the vinyl :-(

			- Andy






Sorry for the blank lines .. otherwise trn complains about more quoted
lines than new lines.


-- 
--------------      Only in dreams can man be truly free     -----------------
-------------- Twas always so, and always so shall be. (DPS) -----------------
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esury@csv.warwick.ac.uk \\ Andy Smaller, Warwick University \\ Share & Enjoy
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: ggibeau@ucqais.cba.uc.edu (George G. Gibeau)
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure music
Organization: University of Cincinnati, College of Business
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:15:15 GMT

In <Bw5yxz.wA@news.udel.edu> lkramer@brahms.udel.edu (Laurence Kramer) writes:
>I've seen postings on this before, so please accept my apologies for this
>request.
>My daughter is interested in finding out who does the theme music on
>Northern Exposure and if it is available on CD.
>Thanks in advance,
>Larry Kramer

Yes, there is a CD available called the Music of Nothern Exposure.
I forget who does the themes, but there are also other artists
on the CD other songs from various episodes).  My friend bought
it and all in all it was pretty good.

George
-- 
George Gerald Gibeau, Jr.   ggibeau@ucqais.uc.edu
University of Cincinnati    Department of Biological Sciences
Ecologists - we'll save the world, even if it kills you.
From: ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Aliens ate my Buick
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:15:14 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo

totb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy York) said...
|Does anyone know if this Thomas Dolby release is available on cd?  I
|found a cassette copy recently, but have never been able to find it in a
|store or in the Noteworthy catalog.

Lazlo is going to go nuts over this, but the initial shipments 
(of the cassette at least) had a different mix on several songs.  Not
a "remix", just some parts re-recorded.  Neither version is better than
the other, just a useless bit of discography trivia.  (Lazlo, you want
discog. info?)

-- 
Cliff Tuel                   __o o__ 
HP/Apollo System Admin       \( v )/       YELLO & ART OF NOISE mailing lists:
Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo     /___\      Yello-request@polyslo.CSc.CalPoly.edu
ctuel@nike.CalPoly.edu         ^ ^         AoN-request@polyslo.CSc.CalPoly.edu
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: One way to keep CD cases in good condition
Keywords: CD longevity plastic sandwich bag preservation
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:07:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <jjonsson.169@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>I don't have the money to 
>buy 500 little jewel box sleeves. I'm ruined. Oh woe is me. . .

        100 bags at Jewel cost less than $1.00.

>	Wait a minute John, what do you use to keep the plastic bags from 
>getting scratched and scraped? Have you ever thought of THAT!!??

        OK, OK.


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:6886 rec.music.misc:24972
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:30:16 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1b0nckINN998@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>In article <p_hp6sb@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>>
>>You weren't reading much Lester Bangs or _Creem_ then . . .
>
>Were YOU?  Come on, laz, cut us some slack.  While I am not going to side
>myself with the others who have complained, I do often sense a tension in
>all your posts.  


*SMACK* get back in your hole, you little bug.

>.  _I_ don't remember them using
>the term "punk" in the early 70's, primarily because I was born in 1973! ;)

I was born in '64, so I don't remember it either, but I find these
things out before I shoot my mouth off about them (most of the time,
anyways).  The point is, if you're going to talk about late-60's
garage music and you haven't listened to and read the back cover of
the _Nuggets_ compilation (where the word "punk" was used, in 1972,
to refer to late-60's garage bands like the Count Five), then you know
not wherefore you speak, and Laz has a duty as a net.god to banish
you to the fires of alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy.

>The earliest group I can remember ever being considered "punk" was the 
>Ramones, and then no one else until the Damned and the Sex Pistols.  Of
>course, I _could_ be wrong.  I freely admit that.

Well, you just admitted that you were 5 years old when the Pistols
broke up, so yeah, your memory could be a little faulty.






-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
UniSQL, Inc.                   and senseless acts of violence.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: heydt@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dr. Seuss)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: new TOTO INFo needed
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:46:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


  Can someone please tell me about the new album by Toto
   that is currently selling in Scandinavia right now.
   PLease e-mail me about it, cause I don't read this group
   that often


   Tanx in advance,
   Paul
   a.k.a. Dr.  Seuss
    heydt@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: dschenfeld@cup.portal.com (David - Schenfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Looking For Mail Order Import CD Sources
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:56:59 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Hello,
  Could someone email me addresses/phone #'s for mail order 
suppliers of imported CD's and CD singles?
  Thanks,
  David
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd