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From: yon@smltlk.enet.dec.com (David A. Yon)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: paper for DeskJet printers
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:54:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: smltlk.1992Apr16.075415
Reply-To: yon@smltlk.enet.dec.com (David A. Yon)
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr15.220204.18798@panix.com>, schuster@panix.com (Michael
Schuster) writes:
|>In article <1992Apr15.110538.39376@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|>>Can anyone recommend a good brand (or brands) of paper for use with
|>>an HP DeskJet?  Results with our basic state-contract, lowest-bidder
|>>xerox paper don't look so hot -- the ink seems to "bleed" into the
|>>paper giving the print a ragged look.  I think this might be because
|>>the paper is very water absorbent, judging from its feel on humid days.
|>>
|>>If anyone has tested several different brands of paper, could you 
|>>give us the benefit of your experience?
|>
|>I don't have a Deskjet but I do remember seeing a special coated paper called
|>Deskjet Ultra in the Paper Direct catalog. Call them for a catalog; it's
|>free and very informative (1-800-A-PAPERS)
|>

	There's also a company called PaperWorks based in Rhode Island which
has an 800 number (call 1-800-555-1212 to get it, I don't have it with me).
They have a special inkjet sampler pack which has over 20 different kinds of
paper which you can try on the Deskjet and then order from them.  I've had
good results with Georgia-Pacific Spectrum DP, as well as Finch "Brite-White"
24# paper.  Give them a call, they sent me the sampler for free!

--
David Yon
yon%smltlk.cbm.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com <--- use this address
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From: carlson@steam.Xylogics.COM (James Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.terminals,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: using terminals printerport
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:37:00 GMT
Reply-To: carlson@steam.Xylogics.COM (James Carlson)
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Xylogics, Inc. Burlington, MA, USA 01810

#!/bin/sh
echo ^[\[5i
cat $*
echo ^[\[4i
exit 0

Something like that ought to work for you -- the "^[" is an escape
character (1B hex), and you'll have to use vi's ^V command or EMACS ^Q
to insert it into the file.

.//.
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From: schittel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Christoph Schittel)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.terminals,comp.unix.questions
Subject: using terminals printerport
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:14:58 GMT
Reply-To: schittel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Christoph Schittel)
Organization: Institut f. Geophysik, Uni Koeln

Hello!

A long time ago I saw a small UNIX utility to print on
a printer connected to the printer port of a vt220
terminal. Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.
Please give me a hint! What's it's name?

Thank's in advance...

--- Christoph




Christoph Schittel			Internet:
Institut f. Geophysik			schittel@geo.Uni-Koeln.DE
Universitaet Koeln                       
  F. R. G.
From: arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: paper for DeskJet printers
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:05:37 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Can anyone recommend a good brand (or brands) of paper for use with
an HP DeskJet?  Results with our basic state-contract, lowest-bidder
xerox paper don't look so hot -- the ink seems to "bleed" into the
paper giving the print a ragged look.  I think this might be because
the paper is very water absorbent, judging from its feel on humid days.

If anyone has tested several different brands of paper, could you 
give us the benefit of your experience?

Thanks,
Ray
________________________________________________________________________
Raymond W. Arritt                     |  Dept. of Physics and Astronomy  
Assistant Professor                   |  University of Kansas 
arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu             |  Lawrence, KS  66045  
Apr  1 12:29:21 timed[92]: THIS MACHINE IS A SLAVE
Apr  1 12:29:27 timed[92]: THIS MACHINE IS A CANDIDATE
Apr  1 12:29:31 timed[92]: This machine is master
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 15:21:21 EDT
From: <PXP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: cheap more-than-300dpi lasers

Let's face it.  To anyone who looks closely, even 300-dpi laser quality
print is notably ragged.  What is the outlook for 600dpi, 1200 dpi or even
more (am I being too greedy?)resolution appearing at"affordable"prices, i.e.
under $1,000?  I realize the time is not now.  But are there technological
obstacles to really high resolution printers getting cheaper?  How high a
resolution can be hoped for?  What sort of time frame seems likely?
Meanwhile, I plan to hold the fort with a H-P Deskjet 500.
--Peter Parisi, Humanities Division, Penn State Harrisburg
From: u8801686@cc.uow.edu.au (timothy napthali)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: BJ10ex
Summary: Printing Problems
Keywords: BJ10ex
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:56:54 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

"Help me! Help me! Help" he said.

I have a Canon BJ10ex, with the Windows 3.0 driver from Canon.
I'm using W4W2.0, CorelDRAW! 2.01, Pagemaker 4.0 and some other
smaller applications, but none of them print properly.
Problem is, it won't print exactly in the centre of the page
no matter what I do. It's always about 4mm off centre to the left.

Can anyone help me.
I have a 25MHz 386 with 2M RAM ( Not enough you know ), Trident 8900
VGA card and an 80Mb Maxtor ( Junk ) hard disk.

	REPLY:	EMAIL	u8801686@cc.uow.edu.au

All Opinons expressed here are my own ( regards my hardware ).
From: bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov (Bob Bagwill)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: paper for DeskJet printers
Summary: paper for DeskJet printers
Keywords: deskjet paper
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:17:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Systems Lab

In article <1992Apr15.110538.39376@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Can anyone recommend a good brand (or brands) of paper for use with
>an HP DeskJet?  Results with our basic state-contract, lowest-bidder
>xerox paper don't look so hot -- the ink seems to "bleed" into the
>paper giving the print a ragged look.  I think this might be because
>the paper is very water absorbent, judging from its feel on humid days.
>
>If anyone has tested several different brands of paper, could you 
>give us the benefit of your experience?

My experience has been: the more cotton, the better the results.

100% cotton looks as good as laser.
cheapest 100% wood pulp looks as bad as 9-pin dot matrix.
25% cotton Southworth seems to be a reasonable compromise.

I haven't seen or tried clay-coated cut sheet paper, which I've seen
advertised for Thinkjet and Bubblejet printers.
-- 
Bob Bagwill	NIST/Computer Systems Lab/Software Engineering Group
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: solomon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Solomon)
Subject: Re: paper for DeskJet printers
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Summary: paper for DeskJet printers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: deskjet paper
Organization: No Organization, Only Random Events
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Apr 1992 16:51 EST  

In article <2825@dove.nist.gov>, bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov (Bob Bagwill) writes...
>In article <1992Apr15.110538.39376@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>Can anyone recommend a good brand (or brands) of paper for use with
>>an HP DeskJet?  

	I have a Deskjet 500. When I bought it I called HP Support and 
asked them about paper. They said they tested various papers and recommend 
the following:

		Xerox 4024
		Champion DataCopy
		Mead Chief Xerographic
		Union Camp Yorktown Xerographic DP

	I personally use the Xerox 4024 with good results. I use it because 
the local office supply place carries it. It costs less than $3.00 a ream.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Graphics...dot matrix vs laser
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:36:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.100152.273@mala.bc.ca> rensing@mala.bc.ca writes:
> Could someone tell me the difference between the output of a 24 pin dot matrix
> printer and a laser printer ?

A 300x300 dpi laser printer looks better than a 360x360 dpi dot matrix printer,
because the individual dots are smaller. It's like having a small dot pitch
monitor: the actual number of pixels might be the same as a cheaper monitor
but it looks better because there's less blurring.

I have the Epson printer you're talking about. It produces excellent text,
indistinguishable from a laser at a moderate distance. Graphics, especially
grey scale, don't come out as good because of the blurring. Lines are fatter,
jaggies are more obvious, and subtle shading differences are lost as dots
overlap each other.

On the other hand I expect my Epson to outlast two laserprinters, and it costs
less than half the cheapest competition in that category.
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 500C with transparencies
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:59:41 GMT

>In article <1992Apr5.210958.30181@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:

>>Does anyone know how well the Color Deskjet works with "regular"
>>transparency sheets?

harper@convex.com (David Harper) writes:

[...]
>Bottom line - I paid the >$40 for a box of 50 sheets of inkjet transparencies.
>Ouch.

Thanks for the information. Follow up question: Does anyone know where
to get blank inkjet transparencies for less that $40/50?

- Carl

--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: lorenh@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Loren Heisey)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: good "intro to postscript" reference?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:24:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.25500004
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

oistony@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthony M. Petro, Office of Information Systems) writes:
>what exactly IS postscript?  
>
>i gather that it's more or less of a really versatile page description 
>language, but that's all i know.  why would i want it?  what do i need 
>to support it in software?  do ordinary programs such as quattro pro 
>and wordperfect, etc. benefit from postscript, or is usage mainly 
>limited to desktop publishing and cad?
>
>where could i find a good reference (probably a magazine article 
>reference) on such issues? 

The April 30, 1991 issue of PC Magazine had an article "A Guide to
PostScript For Non-PostScript Programmers". It was in the tutorial
section and should give one a basic introduction to PS.

--
Loren Heisey
Internet: lorenh@hpcvra.cv.hp.com
UUCP    : {decwrl|rutgers|ucbvax}!hplabs!hp-pcd!lorenh
From: weingart@wesley.imagen.com (Phil Weingart)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re QMS-PS 2210 Centronics
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:03:36 GMT

Responding to mjk@tik.vtt.fi (Markku Kylanpaa) Message-ID: <7304@hemuli.tik.vtt.fi> Date: 4 Apr 92 12:58:20 GMT

markku> Has anyone had similar experience with QMS-PS 2210 Centronics and
markku> HP9000/720 workstation? I think that the problem has something to do
markku> with flow control and timing, but I do not know enough from
markku> Centronics.

Yes, we've seen the same thing here.  We will talking to HP shortly
about Centronics parallel comm problems with all their workstations.
The symptoms of the failure we've seen matches your experience with our
older implementations (PS 810, Colorscript, PS 22x0).  Our newer
implementations work better but still have trouble handshaking.  It
appears to be some kind of timing mismatch, but we're not sure yet.
Some of the newer workstations have deviated from the Centronics
handshaking spec in an attempt to improve throughput, while our
printers have been engineered precisely to the Centronics spec.

In the meantime, your best option is to configure for serial
communications.  I recommend taking the time to engineer a serial cable
for hardware handshaking, and set the printer and the port for 19200
baud.


Phil Weingart, Senior Application Support Specialist                   QMS Inc.
QMS Customer Technical Support                                    1 Magnum Pass
Phone: 205-633-4500    Fax: 205-633-3716                       Mobile, AL 36618
weingart@wesley.imagen.com                                                  USA
From: bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov (Bob Bagwill)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: is there cheaper HP Deskjet 500 RAM?
Summary: dj memory
Keywords: dj memory
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:27:49 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Distribution: usa
Organization: NIST/CSL/SST/SWE

Mail order prices for HP Deskjet 500 RAM 256K packs are around $110.
Is cheaper, denser clone memory available?  Or are prices high because
the DJ is at its end-of-life, so there's no incentive to clone?
-- 
Bob Bagwill	NIST/Computer Systems Lab/Software Engineering Group
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From: bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Cleaner)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: PCL6?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 12:46:10 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Rich Chong <U41602@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>I just had a brainstorm! The HP Laserjet III series has its new
>Resolution Enhancment Technology (RET) which basically automatically
>alters the size of the print dot and its location within the 1/300"
>square. All done internally without much control from the outside.
>Used to smooth out the jaggies. Anyways, one of the biggest problems
>in printing quality pictures with a laserjet is the low resolution
>of 300dpi. You don't want to use RET with printing pictures because
>you don't want to smooth out stuff in a real picture. But the technology
>is just ripe for producing real honest to goodness half-tones!
>I envision a PCL6 where there is a new graphic format which allows one
>to specify a downloading not only a compressed raster bitmap, but
>to also specify halftone information as well. Where the application can
>specify how many halftone-level information bits accompany the actual
>bit (i.e.  1,2,3,4 corresponding to 2,4,8, or 16 halftone levels)
>information. Yes, memory consumption can more than quadruple, and
>processor speeds must be beefed up to not be overrun by the laserbeam,
>but it would be well worth it.
  Apple has some wort of image enhancement that works on photgraphic
images on their laserprinters.  I have no idea how it works, but the
ad comparing the same output on an HP made the HP look really bad.
-- 
  Bruce White(bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)
  "I live like I type - Fast, and with a lot of mistakes"
From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 500C with transparencies
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:16:32 GMT
	<1992Apr6.222555.12703@news.eng.convex.com>
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: harper@convex.com's message of 6 Apr 92 22:25:55 GMT


>>>>> On 6 Apr 92 22:25:55 GMT, harper@convex.com (David Harper) said:
David> In article <1992Apr5.210958.30181@m.cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
David> >One of the possible great things about the Color Deskjet is (would be)
David> >the ability to inexpensively make color transparencies.
David> >
David> >Does it work well?
David> >
David> >Does anyone know how well the Color Deskjet works with "regular"
David> >transparency sheets? HP sells special transparencies for about $1
David> >each. At work, however, I can get transparency sheets for laser
David> >printers and photocopy machines for "free" (i.e. I don't have to pay
David> >for it.)
David> >

David> Forget it - I just went through this.  I had to do a bunch of
David> transparencies on my DJ500C for a recent conference and was
David> hoping the same thing - that I could use the cheap laser
David> printer ones rather than the expensive Deskjet ones.  The laser
David> printer transparency surface is quite smooth compared to the
David> rough surface on the inkjet transparency.  What happened when I
David> tried the laser transparency is that the ink ran; even after a
David> few hours I could run my finger across the surface and smear
David> the ink.  The inkjet transparency can be touched almost from
David> the time it comes out of the printer with no problems.  Bottom
David> line - I paid the >$40 for a box of 50 sheets of inkjet
David> transparencies.  Ouch.

The HP special transparency come with hole pinched transparent
protector for each transparency. I produced on them some Excel
drawings and fractals and they all looked great and gave a very
professional look.
--
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp.  				    
350 Legget Drive, Kanata
Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
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From: bmw@isgtec.com (Bruce M. Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Wanted: Postscript s/w (gs?), cartridge or board for Canon LBP8-II
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:20:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Distribution: world
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

I have a Canon LBP8-II laserprinter with low mileage that sits idling
much of the time because it's not an HP :-)  Yeah, I have a crummy
little TSR that emulates (sort-of) a LaserJet on the Canon but it's
incredibly slow and life is too short.

I know that if it could talk Postscript it'd get a lot more use 'cause
it'd be a lot more useful.  I had a Postscript plug-in co-processor
board with an i960 and 4M RAM once, but it was a loaner and I had to
give it up :-(  Besides, it would have cost me $2500 to buy it.

I know that one US company made a cartridge, but discontinued it over a
year ago.  I remember seeing ads for other co-processor boards, but I
cannot remember where or who now.

It occurred to me that I might be able to hack Ghostscript to output
Canon codes, and this might even be fast enough for me.  Anyone using
GS with their LaserJets care to comment on this possibility?

So, anyone got any ideas?  I'd like to hear about cartridges or boards
or s/w in the $0 to $1500 (tops) range that would bring PS to my LBP.

--
 "CAUTION: OBJECTS IN SCREEN ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR"
bmw@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!bmw ]  Bruce Walker
From: edc@dgbt.doc.ca (Ed Casas)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: seeking info on OKI LED printer's drum life
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:01:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: dgbt.1992Apr13.220143.16767
Organization: The Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada

I am considering purchasing an OKI (model 400) LED printer or an
HP LaserJet IIP+.  The OKI printer is about $250 cheaper but I'm
worried about the relatively expensive ($250) imaging drum.

I seek comments from anyone who has replaced the imaging drum on
an OKI LED printer.  In particular:

  - did the drum last as long as the manufacturer claims (15,000
  sheets) ?

  - how easy would it be to damage a drum while replacing it?

Please e-mail and I will summarize if there is enough interest.

Thanks,

-- 
Ed Casas (edc@dgbt.doc.ca)
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 09:44:35 CET
From: <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Need help deciding between HPIIIsi vs. QMS-PS1700

 I can't make any definitive comments on the Qume, except to say that HP-PCL
(as we all know) is VERY well supported, the Qume I would imagine not so well
supported. Thus the Qume would either have to run in native (with minimal
support) or HP emulation. Given a free choice with all other things equal(ish)
I would always go for a printer Native rather than 1 emulating another vendors
equipment.

 On the IIISi. Most of our IIISi's are attached to our M/F VM system via Co-ax
MIOs. They thus emulate 3820's in AFP (with some s/w that equates to the PSF
command). HOWEVER, I've used a "trick" of the interface and written my own
routines that nibbelise ASCII PostScript files, set-up the interface for
Pseudo-transparency and switch the printer into PS mode. We thus run PS on them
from the M/F. I have used (as tests) files from several sources :-
 1/ Framework on OS2, This file failed on the last page, however, all our other
PS interpretters (IBM AFP Bridge, VAX/VMS, GoScript, Sun, etc) also failed.
 2/ NASA stored on a VAX, transmitted via an MVS system. Had to filter out
request for LETTER paper (we're European).
 3/ WordPerfect 5.1 on Dos. No problems (broke several other interpretters
though).
 4/ Vaxstation screen dump, no problems.
 5/ Hand written on Archimedes, no problems.
 6/ Ducumentation from SUN, no problems.
 7/ DEC-supplied documentation. If TCP'd to IBM 1st (if printed from VAX to the
printer the print symbiont seems to insist on putting macro calls in that only
DEC printers support, I had the same problem with Apple), no problems.

 All in all it seems quite stable. This is PS1. It is NOT a cartridge but ROMs
added to the motherboard (it's VERY fragile, but now available as a Factory
installed option).
 On speed, when printing simple text, maybe with some boxes, the printer does
NOT slow down by any noticable amount, 15-16 PPM is achieved (even though in
Pseudo T mode I send 2 bytes for every 1). Furthermore, it is obvious from my
testing that the PS formatter (given enough memory) runs faster than the print
engine. E.G. If I print a Document with a small graphic (1/4-1/2 page) about
every 5th page the printer does NOT slow down, but if I have 2-3 pages in a
row with small graphics, the latter 1's show slow-down. Conclusion, the
formatter was ahead of the data printing, thus a single graphic (which can't
transmit as fast as the printer prints) still does not slow it, i.e. the
printer was recieving it while (tests show up to 5) earlier pages were being
printed.
From: mitzel@caldera.usc.edu (Danny Mitzel)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Printing JPEG/GIF on DJ500C
Date: 16 Apr 1992 15:14:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: caldera.usc.edu

I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a good driver that works well
for printing JPEGs or GIFs on a HP DeskJet 500C?  My environment
is Sun SparcStation IPC, SunOS4.1.1.

thanks for any suggestions.
danny (mitzel@usc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers