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From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Fried Eggplant Recipe
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:41:24 GMT

In <ab7902vW1dDE01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> eus10@harimanok.amdahl.com (Jun Soriano) writes:

Pare, on behalf of the hungry Philipi-netters, thanks.

>Here's my version (actually my wife's):

>1.  Ihawin ang talong sa electric/gas oven hanggang lumambot, habang inihiwaw
>    tusukin mo ng tinidor para maganda ang pagkaluto.

I know that this is the traditional way. Ever tried using a microwave to do the
same ? I figured the micro would be faster.


>2.  Balatan ang talong, palamigin mo ng konti para hindi ka mapaso.

Eh, yung buntot ? Puputulin pa ba ?


>3.  Laruin mo ng konti yung talong para magflat ang shape.

>4.  Ihanda ang itlog (depende sa dami ng talong) at batiin sa bowl.

Sigurado ka ba nag-luluto tayo ?


>5.  Ihalo ang ground beef habing binabati ang itlog, lagyan mo ng ground pepper,
>    asin, at konting vetsin.

>6.  Ayos na, dip mo lang yung talong saka fry mo.

The way I see this, the eggplant is immersed with the egg/ground beef mixture.
Is this correct ? The way our cusinera cooked it back home, the mixture was
cooked on top of an open-faced eggplant. It doesn't really matter to me how
it looks basta madaling ihanda.


>O sige, kain ka na!

>By the way .... mas masarap kainin ito habang nanonood ka ng/nang 49ers game.

mas masarap din kung may ma-anghang na banana ketsup (Mafran, Zufran, etc.)
From: glabanda@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Joje Gregorio Labanda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: HOME-BOUND
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:34:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

In article <fragante.714351818@unixg.ubc.ca> fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv  
Fragante) writes:
> In <22965@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> dguerrer@lyra.cel.scg.hac.com (Daniel  
Guerrero) writes:
> 
> >As a Filipino who left 20 years ago and stayed, I have to take  
exceptions
> >to your comments.  I don't think it is a question of "colonial  
thinking"
> >that drives many filipinos to seek better fortunes elsewhere. I don't
> >even think it's as complicated as that.  The simple reason is that
> >opportunities exist elsewhere...so what's wrong with going to where it  
is.

> Because of the lack of justice, you'll have to play the game the way  
they do -
> connections, lagay, sip-sip, etc. What about the bright and educated guy  
with
> a clean conscience who refuses to play these rules because of principle  
? No
> doubt they find it unfair. And perhaps that's what attracts them to  
other
> places of opportunities where they can strike it successfully on the  
merits of
> their talents alone.


.And what about the rest of those left behind who do not have a choice...

greg
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Negotiations with Jose Ma. Sison to Begin
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:39:25 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Government emissaries are to leave this
week for the Netherlands to begin preliminary talks with exiled leaders
of the Philippine communist movement aimed at ending the 23-year-old
insurgency, officials said Monday.
	Lawyer Romeo Capulong, legal aide of the government's chief peace
negotiator, Rep. Jose Yap, said the talks would begin Aug. 24 in an
attempt to smooth problems that could derail formal negotiations.
	Meanwhile, Jose Maria Sison, head of the outlawed Communist Party of
the Philippines, accused the government Monday of using divide-and-rule
tactics by trying to initiate peace talks at the local level.
	``Government attempts to begin localized talks and localized cease-
fire will not work,'' Sison said from his base in Utrecht, Netherlands
in an interview with Manila radio station DZXL. ``We can see this is a
divisive tactic by civil and military officials.''
	Capulong, who was legal adviser of the communist National Democratic
Front during failed peace talks with Manila in 1986, told UPI he went to
Utrecht last week ``to lay the ground work'' for formal talks.
	The NDF is an umbrella group comprising 14 underground groups,
including the CPP and its armed wing, the 15,000-strong New Peoples
Army.
	Capulong said he met with Sison and NDF spokesman Byron Borac during
his trip. ``They were very open,'' he said. ``They were amenable to
                   holding formal negotiations.''
	President Fidel Ramos has offered peace talks and amnesty to the
communists and the country's two other insurgent groups -- right wing
rebels and Muslim separatists.
	The three groups have expressed some interest in his offer but have
balked at demands they lay down their arms before formal talks can
begin.
	Ramos has also asked Congress to legalize the country's communist
party. His initiative has yet to be passed by either house of Congress.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 11:36:05 CDT
From: MARK A. CLEOFE <U53968@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Hello...

Hi,

I'm a new reader to this netgroup.  I just visited the Philippines (I am
an American born and raise Filipino, though).  I don't know how to speak
Tagalog... not because I did not want to learn it, but my parents are
from a certain region of the Philippines that speaks one of the thousands
of different dialects.  Therefore, I understand only their dialect.  :)

Anyway, I very much enjoyed the Philippines.  Putting aside the pollution
in Manila, the parts of the country that I visited are BEAUTIFUL!  I had
heard some stories from relatives, "You might not like it there,"  "The
Philippines is not as advanced as it is in the U.S."  "People will take
advantage of you because you're American,"  "It's too hot for you to
handle," etcetera.  Well, I loved it there, there was nothing I was
looking for there that we had here, everyone is very hospitable, and the
weather was wonderful.  Maybe I just happened to be at the right place
at the right time?  I doubt that very much.  If I had my choice, I would
have extended my vacation, but with all my responsibilities here...  well,
you know what I mean.

I will be reading SOC.CULTURE.FILIPINO whenever I have the chance and I
hope I will be able to reply (if you don't mind).  However, as I have
mentioned before, I am not a translator of Tagalog.

Just one more thing:  Does anyone know of a way that I can use Netnews
or "computer to fax" "computer to computer" to speak to friends or
new people in the Philippines???

Thank you very much for your time in reading this.

the Philippines?
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From: ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Amador Argete)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Govt Allows Return of Marcos Body ....
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:40:59 GMT
Organization: Meteorology, University of Melbourne

In article 5293 of soc.culture.filipino
Re: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors
LIBREL@BYUVM.BITNET (Ranny) of
Brigham Young University writes:

>I thought the biggest irony of the year was when Imelda came back home
>and ran for president!  But with Ferdinand Marcos' return and burial
>with full military HONORS beats Imeldas running for presidency!  This is
>the best so far.  Makes me really wonder what they would do next.

Recent developments in Manila indicate that some agreement has been entered
into by the government and Imelda regarding the return of the Marcos
billions (and bullions). Her trip to Hongkong, shedding of legal consultants,
dropping of some charges against Imelda, etc. Details are very sketchy but it
seems both parties are not sure of the exact amount of the loot.

>I don't think "forgive and forget" works in politics (Gabby and Sharon
>maybe).  But when people suffers because of their greediness, then it's
>a totally different story.Are they out of power?  Might be a question
>for the next decade or more!

It seems to be working now that Ramos is president. Imelda's negotiations
with Aquino was futile given each other's 'itaga mo sa bato' attitude.
Probable scenario:
Government stand - a little is better than nothing, and it is good for image.
Imelda's stand - a little less is nothing, and it is good for image.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Where is Cirrus?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:51:17 GMT

>
>From: lambino@cirrus.com (Dave Lambino)
>Subject: rel eng
>
>mabuhay
>
>        Anyone out there know of a pinoy/pinay looking for a change in
>job atmosphere? Here at Cirrus we have an opening for a Reliability
>Engineer. He/She must have at least 5 yrs. experience in the field.
>A strong background in physics is a plus.
>        The lucky person will be working with yours truly. I'd prefer
>a kababayan as a colleague than any other.
>
>dave...
>
>
>tuso man ang matsing ay paglalalanganan din

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Where is CIRRUS?  Thanks.

                                           -TEG
From: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Happy Ninoy day!
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:49:21 GMT
Reply-To: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University


Well, that is not exactly right, but today marks the 7th anniversary
of the assasination of Sen. Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, latest hero of
Philippine history.

For those who believe that a Filipino is worth dying for,
a moment of contemplation in his memory.

I'm surprised no one remembered. :)
-rich
Richard Sucgang  : Dept. of Anatomy and Cell Biology Columbia University
(sucgang@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu | rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu)
"...Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, individually, collectively or otherwise."
From: lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:34:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <3278@creatures.cs.vt.edu> cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz) writes:
>news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System) writes:
>
>>	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The body of Ferdinand Marcos will be
>>flown Sept. 1 from Hawaii to his northern home province for burial with
>>full military honors -- three years after the ousted dictator died in U.
>>S. exile, a government spokesman said Wednesday.
>>   [ stuff deleted ]
>   
>   Ang Pinoy nga naman, napakadaling makalimot.  Mga magnanakaw, berdugo,
>at pusakal, sa halip na litisin, ay hindi lamang pinapatawad nang walang 
>kabayaran ngunit pinaparangalan.  Kahit isang salita lamang, isang 
>pagpapaumanhin sa lahat ng paghihirap na idinulot sa bayan, ay hindi 
>hinahanap.  
>    Anong kabalastugan ito?  Mga hangal lamang ang nagpaparangal sa isang 
>huwad na bayani.  Mga Pilipino lamang ang nag-aalsa nang hindi pinapaslang
>ang mga mandarambong na naluklukan sa kapangyarihan. Lansagin ang buong
>angkan ng Marcos!  Ang dapat lamang nating tanggaping kabayaran ay ang
>pagbabalik ng mga kayamanang ninakaw o ang bangkay ng mga ka-Marcosan.
>
>***********************************************************************
>* bombim cadiz             | Theorem:   The early bird gets the worm. *
>* cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu | Corollary: The early worm gets eaten.    *  
>***********************************************************************

	I saw this too and was shocked and outraged.  Is this report
	accurate?  If it is, then I consider it a slap in the face
	(at the very least) of the Filipino people.  It sets a very bad
	example of how the powerful can do whatever they want, no 
	matter how immoral, and still get away with it.  Are we 
	doomed to this type of society forever?

	I expect no less than massive protests from the people if
	the dictator is buried with military honors, and if I can
	join in this protest in some small way from over here, then
	I will. 

	annette
From: ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Amador Argete)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Marcos Burial with Military Honors
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:03:10 GMT
Organization: Meteorology, University of Melbourne

Sabi ni cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz):
>Re: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors

>   Ang Pinoy nga naman, napakadaling makalimot.  Mga magnanakaw, berdugo,
>at pusakal, sa halip na litisin, ay hindi lamang pinapatawad nang walang 
>kabayaran ngunit pinaparangalan.  Kahit isang salita lamang, isang 
>pagpapaumanhin sa lahat ng paghihirap na idinulot sa bayan, ay hindi 
>hinahanap.  
>    Anong kabalastugan ito?  Mga hangal lamang ang nagpaparangal sa isang 
>huwad na bayani.  Mga Pilipino lamang ang nag-aalsa nang hindi pinapaslang
>ang mga mandarambong na naluklukan sa kapangyarihan. Lansagin ang buong
>angkan ng Marcos!  Ang dapat lamang nating tanggaping kabayaran ay ang
>pagbabalik ng mga kayamanang ninakaw o ang bangkay ng mga ka-Marcosan.

Narito ang isang maaaring isulat sa libingan ni Marcos:

	   Here lies Da Apo
	   Hatapang ha tao
	   Haputol ha kamay
	   Hindi haayaw
	   Haputol ha ulo
	   Hindi hatakbo
	   Haputol ha uten
	   Hatakbo hatulen.
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Food ...
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:19:15 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation

In article <1992Aug20.002413.12072@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> sobejana@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Regina Sobejana) writes:
>dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia) writes:
>: 
>: 	Sino sa inyo ang marunong magluto ng Laing?
>: 	I need the recipe, please. 
>: 
>: 	Salamat,
>: 
>: 	/Danny
>:
>Hmmm....that's sounds familiar?   Is that somewhat like a "ginataang gabi
>leaves" (or taro leaves with coconut milk) or something?  
>
>(or gutom lang siguro ako't that i'm confusing "laing" with something else...)
>
>-ginnie (suffering from yet another PFUS)
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 That's right, Ginnie! Sa Bicol yata ang pinagsimulan nito.

 Tito, baka marunong ka magluto nito. 

 Sa Barrio Fiesta (Milpitas), the cost of 1 order is $9.90. Laing is
 really good but for that price, IT BETTER BE GOOD!

 /Danny
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: RE: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:47:30 GMT



I'd take this situation and think that the 'Honors' on that day 
will be marked in Philippine history as "The success of the battle 
against Marcos's incumbency".  The Philippines pioneers a state of 
heroism that honors "The fight of the people and not this person 
being interred".  In this case, I will not feel so bad about it.

It was not *him* who is the hero.
It was the fight we fought and survival against all the odds that
*he* put up around *himself* for protection and the Military Honors 
commemorates this again.

(Lighten up, folks.  No flames, please.)

-Marida






Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: albert@MATHLAB.SUNYSB.EDU (Jose Ramon Albert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: PANATANG-MAKABAYAN
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:49:45 GMT

Iniibig ko ang Pilipinas
Ito ang aking lupang sinilangan
Ito ang tahanan ng aking lahi.
Ako'y kanyang kinukupkop at tinutulungan
Upang maging malakas, maligaya at kapaki-pakinabang.

Bilang ganti, ay diringgin ko ang payo ng aking mga magulang
Susundin ko ang mga tungkulin ng aking paaralan
Tutuparin ko ang mga tuntunin ng isang mamamayang makabayan
  at masunurin sa batas.
Sisikapin kong maging isang tunay na Pilipino sa isip, sa salita at sa gawa.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Fried Eggplant Recipe
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:30:46 GMT

In <1992Aug12.022700.3885@mksol.dseg.ti.com> joelq@mksol.dseg.ti.com (joel a quejada) writes:

>I've recently gotten in the mood for those fried eggplants (dipped in
>egg with ground beef.)  I could probably guess how to make it, but I'd
>rather get a recipe from someone who knows!  I'm sure someone out there
>knows how to make this, it's seems pretty simple, and quite popular.

Is this what they call "rellenong talong" ? I know this sounds funny, but I'm
serious. I'm also hungry for this stuff. After having tried making it myself,
I figured there's got to be a better way.

How did you suddenly get in the mood for these ? Did you eat in a Pinoy
restaurant lately ?
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:36:15 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation


 That is why politics is really very difficult to understand.
 Marcos has wronged the nation and yet he will be given military
 honors. Walanghiya talaga, baka in a few more years, current leaders
 might even think he can be a hero. That would really be a killer.

 I guess the saying is true no matter what, "Money Talks, Bullshit
 Walks, and Everything else Crawls". 


/Danny
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: dguerrer@lyra.cel.scg.hac.com (Daniel Guerrero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: HOME-BOUND
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:17:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Colorado Engineering Labs

In article <9208201335.AA06316@ams.sunysb.edu> albert@AMS.SUNYSB.EDU (Jose Albert) writes:
>I am glad to read about Filipinos who have earned some money and
>eventually decided to go home for good.  While I am not critical 
>of those who have left the Philippines to study or to earn, 
>I am disgusted with those who have the colonial thinking that
>America (or any other "imported" place) has more to offer 
>than the Philippines.  This "fact" is only true as far the 
>material and hedonistic aspects, but surely there is a little 
>more in life than money (and sex).  Certainly, the odds of 
>getting into the middle class when one starts up from 
>the lower classes of society is far better in the US than the odds 
>back home.  But there will always be trade offs in life
>as there is no such thing as a free lunch.  

As a Filipino who left 20 years ago and stayed, I have to take exceptions
to your comments.  I don't think it is a question of "colonial thinking"
that drives many filipinos to seek better fortunes elsewhere. I don't
even think it's as complicated as that.  The simple reason is that
opportunities exist elsewhere...so what's wrong with going to where it is.

If abundant opportunities exists in the Phil, I'm sure people would
take advantage of them.  But face facts, there are not many opportunities
in the Phil right now.  That's not to say there won't be in the future.

As to your comments about "being more in life than money", wake up!!!
You can't survive without it and if it means relocating next door, to the
next town, to the next state or to the next country, you do it, not
because of some "colonial thinking" that other countries may have more
to offer but because you have to eat.  THIS is one of the trade offs in
life.  

BTW, what are your plans when you graduate? do you intend to return to
the Phil?

--
============================================================================
Dan Guerrero : dguerrer@rigel.hac.com     |  All science is either physics
Hughes Aircraft Colorado Engineering      |  or stamp collecting.
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From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: HOME-BOUND
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:14:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: bridge2.1294
Distribution: usa
Organization: 3Com Corporation



	Pare, it's true maraming kalokohan sa atin, but do not
	also be blind to the fact that there are also many
	wrongdoings here. 

	Most of the time when you go against a powerful man or
	group, you run the risk of being beaten, anywhere in 
	the world, no matter how correct or right you are.

	Sipsip? At work, tambak sa dami ang sipsipan. All walks
	of life. The higher the position, the stronger the 
	sipsip. 

	Lagayan? Well,I have not encountered one here yet. I'm
	sure this happens. 

	To each his own. Hopefully things will get better, and
	even if they don't, I still look forward to the day I
	spend the rest of my life back HOME.

	  
	/Danny

 BTW, ano ang handicap mo sa golf?
From: msoques@mozart.amd.com (Martin Soques)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Imelda and Doris Duke
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:01:18 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Saw the ff in the _Who's who_ column in last Sun's paper.  BTW, Doris Duke
is from the prominent Duke family in Durham, NC, site of Duke University.
The Duke family made their millions in the tobacco industry.

---

Knight-Ridder News Service

Q: Has anyone made sense of heiress Doris Duke's fascination with Imelda
   Marcos?

A: The explanation is quite simple, writes Stephanie Mansfield in her new
   unauthorized biography of Duke, _The Richest Girl in the World_ (Putman).
Marcos, the "poor little rich girl of the Third World," was the only woman
as powerful as Duke and the only one who could shower her with equivalent
gifts and attention.  Both were frustrated singers and devotees of mediums
and clairvoyants.  They loved off-color jokes, salty language and X-rated
movies.  With Duke's affection for intrigue and Marcos' need for financial
support, they "were literally feeding off one anther," Mansfield writes.
Duke put up the $5.3 million bail for the Marcoses' fraud and racketeering
charges in the United States, picked up Imelda's $1,800-a-night hotel bill
and paid $5 million for her defense attorney.

---

Marty
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From: u9211306@cc.uow.edu.au (Elpidio S Jabonete Jr)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: ERAPJOKE
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:11:45 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong


	Ibig mong sabihin e makakarating ng langit si Erap ?
 Alam kaya niya ang daan patungo roon ? Naku ...\

	Patawarin po !!!


	Jun

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From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Fried Eggplant Recipe : Tortang Talong
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:22:01 GMT

In <1992Aug13.132420.10215@mksol.dseg.ti.com> joel@dseg.ti.com (Joel Quejada) writes:

>Salamat to all those that responded so quickly.  I somewhat satisfied my
>craving, except I used those big eggplants - it wasn't as tender as I was
>used to!

I think the big eggplants are best cooked the following way:

1. Cut them into thin round slices (just like slicing pepperoni).
2. Dip them into a bowl of beaten eggs mixed with toyo.
3. Fry them.

Tapos! Pare, parang pica-pica na ito.

This is just the bare-bone recipe. If someone knows how to spice up the recipe,
please post.