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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #242
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:45:01 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Wed,  7 Oct 92       Volume 10 : Issue 242

Today's Topics:

      [*] Carpetbag 1.3a
      [*] excel-homeFinance1.0.hqx
      [*] Finder Info 1.1.1
      [*] FlameFile-submission
      [*] Historical News Sounds
      [*] HyperTEACH
      [*] MacVISTA
      [*] misc/printer-maze.ps
      [*] PwrDown 1.0
      [*] Re: Info-Mac Digest V10 #241
      [*] serial-of-champions.hqx
      [*] tetix.hqx
      Amiga/Atari Mac Emulator Control Panel Setting Program
      Any known LaserFix 2.0 conflicts? (Q)
      Anyone know about MacInUse?
      Apple's Document Viewer
      Apple and higher education
      Apple charging for HyperCard/System
      AppleTalk Internet Router
      AppleTalk specs
      Autodoubler 2.0 (A)
      AutoDoubler Internal Compressor & Viruses (Q)
      BinHex4.0/5.0 bug--end to mystery
      Conflict: Speedy Finder 7 and AutoDoubler 2.0
      Connecting with Home Mac from Office
      CopyDoubler Bug [A]
      DeskJet and Mac [comment]
      DOS.INIT 1.2 conflicts with Apple File Exchange (and copy)
      Drag & drop utility [Q]
      Error type 28
      External Monitors for the old Portable
      FileMaker Import (Q)
      font monger -- should I buy it?
      getting from fto on pc and transferring to mac
      Hard disks and OCR
      How do I *remove* Sys 7 tuneup?
      INIT Loading Program
      InitShare
      internet-tour-xx.hqx
      Leafax II (Wanted)
      lost address at navpgs
      MacTCP config solution!
      MacX
      Magical Moving Icons with Sys7
      Memory Question
      Memory Question (A)
      Needed: Mac-Sun Floppy Formatter/Reader
      Opening Freehand-created EPSF in Illustrator:  What's the trick?
      PowerBooks and Color Quickdraw
      Quark Extensions
      quicktime
      Quieting the startup sound
      QWK Reader for Mac (R)
      Reactions
      Reading CETEDOC CD-ROM on the Mac
      resedit tools
      Saving as PS in System 7
      System 7.1 Features
      Upgrade to Microsoft Word 5 imminent?
      Win 3.1 beats 7.0
      Word 5.1/Word 6.0
      Word 5.1 upgrade

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 10:48:13 EDT
From: walkerj@milo.math.scarolina.edu (Jim Walker)
Subject: [*] Carpetbag 1.3a

Carpetbag is a shareware ($5) control panel extension that makes
resources such as fonts, sounds, FKEYs, and keyboard layouts
available to your programs without installing the resources in
the System file.  You specify certain folders, and Carpetbag
opens all resource files therein at boot time.  It works under
System 6, but is smarter about keeping track of folders
under System 7.  It should even be able to use a folder on a remote
Appleshare volume.

This file is in StuffIt 3.0 format.  It can be decompressed with StuffIt
Expander (freeware) or anything in the StuffIt 3.0 family.

The 1.3a package has corrections to the Outboard Keyboard extensions, but
still has version 1.3 of Carpetbag.

Since 1.2.3: Ability to open and close files without restarting, subject to
certain restrictions and warnings.

 -- Jim Walker

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/carpet-bag-13a.hqx; 77K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:18:32 -0600
From: Robert T. Weverka <weverka@irish.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: [*] excel-homeFinance1.0.hqx

This spreadsheet calculates outstanding balence versus time for home
loans.

More importantly it gives you a look at all the frictional costs in
buying and in refinancing.  Your monthly payment, as well as approximate
net monthly cost after tax incentives is figured as well.

suggested directory: app/

feedback to weverka@boulder.colorado.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/app/excel-home-finance-10.hqx; 20K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:34:20 PDT
From: Talcott <talcott%cs@hub.ucsb.edu>
Subject: [*] Finder Info 1.1.1

Finder Info is an easy to use Macintosh application for modifying a
document's Finder information (type, creator and Finder flags).  If
you don't understand what this information is, then Finder Info
probably isn't for you.  On the other hand, if you are acquainted
with this information, then you will like Finder Info as it offers an
easy way to change any file's Finder information.

Version 1.1.1 fixes a problem with multiple file drag-and-drop.

Finder Info is Freeware.

Adam R. Talcott
talcott@grape.ucsb.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/util/finder-info-111.hqx; 35K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:21:37 -0400
From: "Josh A. Goldfoot" <goldfoot-josh@YALE.EDU>
Subject: [*] FlameFile-submission

Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:43:35 -0400
From: "Josh A. Goldfoot" <goldfoot-josh@YALE.EDU>
Subject: FlameFile-110.hqx

FlameFile v1.1 is a drag-and-drop utility that completely erases files and
folders. This is useful to fight against snoops with "un-delete" utilities,
which can allow people to read files even after you've Emptied the Trash.
Public Domain, by Josh Goldfoot.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/flame-file-11.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:50:36 MET
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] Historical News Sounds

Submission HistoricalNewsSnds.cpt.hqx

Hereby I send you a binhex-ed compact-pro archive containing five
System 7 sounds of some histroical speeches and sounds concerning
Germany. Three of the sounds are parts of the Kennedy speach in
West-Berlin (Yes, including 'Ich bin ein Berliner').
Two others are in German and let you hear the German Minister of the
Interior at the Ambassy in Prague talking to 3000 East-German
refugees (November 1989). The second is a West-German citizen shouting
'The Wall must go', some days before the Berlin Wall was opened to
East-Germans.

Hope you like it.

Rene Ros
rgaros@bio.vu.nl

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/german-historical.hqx; 1573K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:30:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Hollye Green <hlk@tenet.edu>
Subject: [*] HyperTEACH

HyperTEACH is the ideal program addition to hypercard for teachers and
students.  This stack, and all the additional info that comes with it, is
freeware.  It is currently being used with secondary special eduction
students to create informative and simple hypercard stacks.

You will need to convert it with Binhex and decompress it with Compact
Pro.  To print out the instructions, you will need to use PageMaker 4.01
or later.

Hollye Knox-Green
Bryson, Tx
Bryson I.S.D.
hollye@tenet.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/card/hyper-teach.hqx; 926K]

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:18:05 EDT
From: timmyd@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: [*] MacVISTA

The program I am submitting for posting to your info-mac archive is
MacVISTA,
a program for analysis of astronomical CCD images.  CCD-based imaging
systems
are the standard in the professional astronomical community, and are
becoming cheap enough that a large number of amateurs posess them as
well.
However, the software distributed with these systems is almost
universally
bad; I wrote MacVISTA in an attempt to rectify this situation.  Since I
wrote the program (as part of a research project at MIT) it has become
the leading image analysis tool at MIT's Center for space research CCD
lab, and I though there might be a demand for it elsewhere, especially
among amateur astronomers.
Included in the following BinHexed, StuffIt-compressed distribution are
1)  MacVISTA 1.3.1
2)  a manual in MS Word format
3)  a sample image file.
The whole distribution decompresses to about 400K.  MacVISTA requires a
mac w/ color, a 68020/30/40 processor and FPU.  The shareware fee is
$20.00.
Please review my software and let me know if it is suitable for posting.
I would greatly appreciate any questions/comments you might have.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-vista.hqx; 194K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:35:31 -0400
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: [*] misc/printer-maze.ps

[apologies for the quick resubmission.  i've been advised to put a (c) mark]
[at the beginning of the file before distributing it.  as an added bonus,  ]
[the code of this version is a few bytes shorter due to a small fix.       ]


This unusual submission is for those mac users near postscript printers.

After I put my after-dark maze screensaver on the archives there were many
requests for a way of producing maze hardcopies.  If you have a postscript
printer, this is a cool way of doing it.  Just send this postscript file to
your printer, and it will randomly generate a maze and print it out.  You
have to make sure that the file begins with the %! line, and if you are
having trouble getting mazes out of the file, use the program SendPS, in
the info-mac archives.

If you fiddle with the options at the top of the file, you can get multi-page
mazes and even get the printer to solve the maze.

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/printer-maze.txt.txt; 3K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:38:44 PDT
From: ez028852@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (Christopher K. Larson)
Subject: [*] PwrDown 1.0

PwrDown is a system extension which allows the user to preform a shut
down or restart from the Macintosh keyboard. Shareware $5.

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/pwr-down-10.hqx; 26K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:14:01 -0700 (MST)
From: JMS@CARAT.ARIZONA.EDU (A virtually vegetal non-entity)
Subject: [*] Re: Info-Mac Digest V10 #241

In article <9210070015.AA06130@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>, it is written:
>
>Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  6 Oct 92       Volume 10 : Issue 241
>
>Today's Topics:
>
>      Need network software on Mac to connect UNIX's NFS (A)
>

I did a review of the two NFS clients for Macintosh for Digital
News (now merged with Digital News and Review).  You can read it in
DN, or (since DN is now unable to give reprints) here's the text:

NFS Client for Macintosh, Product Profile

[Archived as /info-mac/report/unix-via-nfs.txt; 15K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:49:09 -0300
From: Jason Richard Blakey <blakey@ug.cs.dal.ca>
Subject: [*] serial-of-champions.hqx

Giday! Here's something I downloaded (with Nuno's help) from ZMac Last
night.  Looked pretty cool, haven't really had a chance to check it out yet,
though.  Here's the included "prelude to docs" by Mike Throckmorton.
-Jason "Gobrus" Blakey

     Serial of Champions watches your serial ports when you are using
communications applications and tells you how your communtications
time is being spent.  It can tell you how much time was spent waiting on
responses from the remote computer, how much time was spent waiting
on your Macintosh (or you), how much time was actually spent sending
data and receiving data.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/serial-of-champions.hqx; 210K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 03:30:30 MDT
From: ksanchez@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kalisto Sanchez)
Subject: [*] tetix.hqx

AGGGGHH!, yes, another like tetris game!
This is a liketetrisgame, but with a few variations
When you advance a level a nice girl are displayed
motiving you to finally end the game.
This game is only B&W, a color version can appears later.
Run in all systems, and in all kind of macs (i think...)
This game as been developed in Zaragoza (also the beyond
juslibol)

If you have some problem, suggestion or anyother send a mail
to:   ksanchez@nyx.cs.du.edu

Enjoy the game!!..

Please put it in  info-mac/game/tetix.sit.hqx

[Archived as /info-mac/game/tetix.hqx; 330K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Amiga/Atari Mac Emulator Control Panel Setting Program

A long time ago, I saw a small program meant mainly for people who run a
Mac emulator on an Amiga or Atari that can save/load control panel
settings to/from a disk file.

Anyone know where I can get this program? I already asked archie using the
string "prog pram", but that didn't find it.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 1:44:15 EST
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal)
Subject: Any known LaserFix 2.0 conflicts? (Q)

  Somehow I have messed up my system thusly:

(actually I did to both my powerbook 100 and IIsi...)

  I use PS File Maker and LaserFix 2.0 to make printouts. I created
postscript files and upload them to Unix where I dump them to a laser
printer. PS File Maker allows you to create the Postscript printout and
LaserFix allows you to choose filename and location, very handy.

 In the last week I added Stuffit Deluxe, including Stuffit Spacesaver
and Magic Menu. Everything seemed fine (although I can't swear to it),
until last night when I downloaded some fonts, and put them in the system
file. I added the Kashmir font filed under led-zeppelin??.hqx, and then I
added the font extension (By the way: what do those do as opposed to just
throwing the font into your system suitcase?).

 Suddenly it started crashing when I tried to print. It would give you the
print dialog, I would check the Disk File box, and then the LaserFix dialog
would open up, asking me where and what to call the file. At this point it
would just sit and say creating postscript file but would not. For a long
time. Until I had to reboot.

 Notes: I tried taking the font in and out of the system suitcase. I tried
taking the init in and out of the extension folder. Everything worked last
night with the extension and font and laserfix. It was only today at some
untraceable point that it started crashing, and the only thing I could do
was to take out LaserFix. I got a new copy of laserFix and noticed that
it was somewhat smaller than the original, and maybe I thought it had been
corrupted, but replacing it with a clean copy did nothing.

  So I have the culprit, but everything WAS working with LaserFix before, it's
hard to tell what set this off.

 Any suggestions?

Thanks
--
|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:29:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: CHUCKM@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU (Chuck McDaniels, UCR Academic Computing)
Subject: Anyone know about MacInUse?

Hi:

I am interested in information regarding the program MacInUse, which I am
told allows folks who manage computer labs to track usage of Macs connected
in a network.  Does anyone have the company name and phone number (or e-mail
address) handy?  Please reply by e-mail.  Thanks!

Chuck McDaniels, Microcomputer Facilities Manager
Academic Computing Services, Univ. of California, Riverside
BITNET:   ChuckM@UCRVMS         Internet: ChuckM@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 09:27:54 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Apple's Document Viewer

The good news is that /dts/utils/apple-docviewer-1-0a12.hqx on
ftp.apple.com is 1) a standard documentation viewing facility that
includes both text and graphics and can handle much larger documents
than, say, TeachText AND 2) it includes TrueType Palatino and Zapf
Dingbats (if you don't already have them from another source).

The bad news is 1) the viewer only reads documents, and I didn't see any
indication that an application to CREATE viewer documents will be made
widely available (however, I have not rummaged through the files in the
recently added /dts/mac/docs/develop directory--presumably those are in
docviewer format) and 2) the docviewer .hqx file is 742K (or
thereabouts)--a bummer for those without a fast link.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:45:59 CDT
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Subject: Apple and higher education

		       Subject:                               Time:10:38 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Apple and higher education             Date:10/7/92
In Info-Mac Digest V10 #241, matt neuburg <clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
writes:

>Is Apple
>going to drop its emphasis on having a close relationship with
>Academe?

I guess it's possible. It's been over four months since my university's
sales rep was reassigned  and she still hasn't been replaced. We haven't had
an SE (systems engineer, not a 68000-based Mac) for seven or eight months.
Apple is just taking our purchase orders (about $1 million last year, I
believe) and sending us boxes. I don't think they like us.

David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 08:51:17 GMT
From: knight@swfmc1.SINet.SLB.COM (Francis Knight, SIEM UK Felixstowe)
Subject: Apple charging for HyperCard/System

>As you know, the plan seems to be to charge about $200 for HyperCard
>and distribute free only a HyperCard "player".

I found myself thinking along Matt Neuburg's lines just a day or two ago.
HyperCard was my introduction to Mac programming, and encouraged me to dig
deeper. In a sceptical world, having a free/bundled tool which enabled
anybody to demonstrate that the Mac was easier to program than the PC was a
considerable benefit to the Mac, in my view. (Mind you, the same sceptics
remained stubbornly unpersuaded until they could say "Windows makes any PC
the same as a Mac".) PC users can boast about a bundled BASIC interpreter,
and even (gasp) the DOS _scripting_languge_!

What do we get for our cash? I'd been poking about inside some XWindoid
XCMD code, and getting frustrated with an apparent bug, which caused any
activating window to erase, even before an updateEvt occurred (any hints
welcome). Contacting the code's original author brought the reply that he'd
wasted several days on the same problem, but got no help at all from Claris
Technical Support. Apparently it is now policy not to support XCMD
developers, not even Apple certified types. I wonder what Aldus/Silicon
Beach do for their SuperCard customers?

I always thought Claris was supposed to have a better sense of direction
than Apple, but they certainly don't seem to have moved HyperCard on a lot.
Anyone remember when the last ad. campaign for HyperCard was? These days
it's in contention for the title of the world's best kept secret, in my
view. Maybe courting the Windows market is taking too much of Claris'
attention these days. (sigh)


NoCheers,
Francis K.

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:22:49 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: AppleTalk Internet Router

>>Well, the big problem now is the Network control panel.  Since I have to
>>choose between Appletalk or Ethertalk, it's a drag to switch.  So I got the
>>AppleTalk Internet Router, version 2.0 and 3.0a11 off the servers at work.

>Do you realize you're pirating software?  The AppleTalk Internet router is
>a commercial product.

>Wade Williams

This is just the sort of kneejerk reaction that really gets my goat.  First
off, I work for Apple.  We wrote it.  I'm stealing it from a company that
allows their employees to use it.  In fact, I have a pre-release beta version
in an effort to help test the damn thing!  Hardly stealing.  Apple even owns
the machine I'm running at home (although it's due to be mine soon).

I'm not trying to lambast you Wade, I just think that this is another example
of the "holier than thou" attitude sneaking out, and it annoys the hell out
of me.  Whatever happened to assuming people are decent and forthright?

Sheesh.  Another case of judging without the facts.

Jon "Let's lynch 'em!" Pugh

PS

I got 3.0b2 of the router and am running it on both ends of my EtherTalk &
LocalTalk network.  It works fabulously!  Now I don't have to switch back
and forth between the nets!  3.0 is 32 bit clean and hasn't crashed all
night.  Of course it's only the first day.  ;)

For the terminally curious, here is a crude ASCII map of my net:

Q900       PB140      SE/30       LWIIg        Q700
 | |         |          |          | |          | |
 | +---------+----------+----------+-|----------+ |  LocalTalk
 |                                   |            |
 +-----------------------------------+------------+  EtherTalk

Theoretically, I could run the router on only 1 of the Quadras, but the
simplicity of my net allows me to simply run the router on each end and
talk directly between any two devices without dragging down either of the
Quadras with the load.  Even better, both nets appear as one, with no zones
in the Chooser.  Works pretty well in my book.

Of course, I have 20 Megs and a fast machine.  Your mileage may vary.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:51:38 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: AppleTalk specs

Hi!

Can anyone tell me a couple of things about LocalTalk networking?  I
need to know :

  *  Maximum number of machines per net or subnet
  *  Maximum number of subnets per LocalTalk internet
  *  Maximum cable lengths per LocalTalk subnet

Also, about how many times more expensive is a Fiber Optic Ethernet
than conventional Ethernet?  How much more than 10Base-T?

Thanks for your help.

Matthew Cravit
cravitma@student.msu.edu
"Current research shows that 3 out of 4 people think the fourth is an idiot."

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 04:16:53 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Autodoubler 2.0 (A)

s169126@cc.gettysburg.edu (Michael Schuler) writes:

  > One thing does worry me
  > though and that is the fact that it is almost impossible to tell the
  > orginal from the compressed version (the size is different but other
  > than that there is no way to tell.  For me as an end user this is not
  > a problem, but my job is fixing software problem of the students on
  > campus.  From that point of view, how can you tell if this or another
  > internal compressor has been used (maybe Fifth Generation should added
  > a line to the info box of the Applicaiton like Lauchbreak does).

   Two solutions:

   One is that you can have AD append a little "dd" blue square to the
file icon.  Look in the AD control panel for this setting.

   The other is to use DiskDoubler, which is happy to tell you whether it
is compressed, which compression was used, and what savings were achieved.
Try "File Savings" in the DD menu.



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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 15:59:48 MDT
From: GERTNER BRADLEY J <gertner@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: AutoDoubler Internal Compressor & Viruses (Q)

Dear Netters,
I was just doing my very overdue disk cleaning / backing up /
virus scanning and wondered whether the new AutoDoubler Internal
Compressor (Yea! SpeedDisk finally knows about apps again!) hides
viruses from virus detection programs like Disinfectant 2.9.
If the resources are compressed before scanning, will they be
recognizable to Disinfectant?  Any ideas?

--
Brad Gertner (gertner@ucsu.Colorado.EDU)

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:37 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
Subject: BinHex4.0/5.0 bug--end to mystery

Now and then we see notes here that an archived .hqx file can't be
converted properly by BinHex 4.0 or BinHex 5.0. The usual assumption is
that the .hqx file is corrupt (and sometimes it IS corrupt), so the
uploaders (like me) upload a fresh copy--with the same complaint. I've
gotten in the habit of suggesting that people with problems simply use a
different program to convert, but I've never understood what was going on.

In an exchange on comp.sys.mac.comm today, Ephraim Vishniac
(ephraim@think.com)  (thanks, Ephraim!) quotes a 7-year-old document as
follows:

>Peter, I must thank you for letting me know about the problem in BinHex 4.0
>(and 5.0). I have looked into it and found what was wrong. It is a very
obscure
>bug that was triggered by the unusual length of the real name of the file.
>What is happening is: the display routines are using a buffer which is unused
>by the coding routines (apl->Upl) but is used by the decoding routines
>(dnl->apl). These display routines are only using a few characters (about 6)
>at the beginning of the buffer. With a normal length file name, the decoding
>routines have already processed the characters that will be destroyed by the
>display routines, so it works fine. When the file has a long file name, the
>buffer wraps around and stops within the first few characters. The display
>routines then destroy the few first characters of the buffer. The decoding
>routines resume their duties and restart processing with the destroyed
>characters. Later on, the CRCs will not match and an error will be
displayed.
>The display routines were developed for the coding part of BinHex, where it
is
>OK to use that buffer. I then just called those routines from the decoding
>part,
>creating the bug. Since BinHex 5.0 uses the same routines, it also has the
bug
>when decoding .Hqx files. Because of the wide use of the MacBinary format
>supported by BinHex 5.0, I do not intend to correct the problem.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Mainstay                                         4/11/85      Yves Lempereur

So, pick a different dehqx'er for files with long names....

Dontcha just love these computers!
Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:40 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: Conflict: Speedy Finder 7 and AutoDoubler 2.0

There is a conflict between Speedy Finder 7 and Autodoubler that causes
AD to quit when you select the "Savings..." button.

-Dwight

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:13 EDT
From: PER_CUNNING%ODNVMS@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Connecting with Home Mac from Office

Greetings, netters!

I would appreciate any advice I can get on the following situation:

I have a non-networked Mac (a IIci) at my office, with a 2400-baud modem.  I
also have a Mac (a II) at home, with a 9600-baud modem.  I recently added a
second phone line at home, for use with that Mac.  I would like to be able to
do file transfers from one Mac to the other (either direction).  I know about
Farallon's Timbuktu/Remote package, but I'm looking for a simpler, less
expensive solution, if such exists.

1.  What additional hardware, if any, do I need to accomplish this?

2.  What software do you recommend for this situation?

Thanks in advance for any tips,

--Larry Cunningham              PER_CUNNING%ODNVMS@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
  State of Ohio                 PER_CUNNING@OSI.OHIO.GOV

------------------------------

Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:14:44 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: CopyDoubler Bug [A]

CopyDoubler Bug [A]
Jeff Needleman writes:

One oddity is that the release version of CopyDoubler will not work unless
AutoDoubler is present (AD doesn't have to be turned on--only present
somewhere in the System Folder). The reason given is that since CopyDoubler
is not being sold separately as yet, only owners of AD have received the
release version, so any pirate must remember to steal both AD and
CopyDoubler. It's an anti-piracy measure, but not a copy protection
measure. I never heard of anything like this myself. The demo version has
no such restriction.

The purpose is this: you cannot buy CopyDoubler right now without
AutoDoubler.
To prevent copies of CopyDoubler from getting out, Salient installed a check
for AutoDoubler. When CopyDoubler is available alone, the check will not
exist.
Additionally, this check does not exist in the demo since you can run the demo
even if you don't own AutoDoubler.

Robert

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:47:09 +1000 (EST)
From: RYANPH@mrl.dsto.gov.au (Philip FX Ryan)
Subject: DeskJet and Mac [comment]

Someone wrote in a recent infomac that there are significant problems with
getting a DJ to work with a Mac properly.

I have been using a plain old DeskJet since 1989. I have used both the
commercial Grappler LS driver, in system 6 and system 7. I have also used
the freeware HPDJ 2.1 driver by Olli Arnberg and Ari {?surname is
Murj...?}.

The second driver is totally free, is now upgraded to version 3, which
prints in landscape and portrait. It allows any scaling, and makes the most
of font cartridges in the printer. It also works with ATM and/or Truetype
(and I presume that it would be fine with Freedom of the Press).

I also think that it would be able to take advantage of a
serial-to-parallel conversion cable - since the Mac serial port can pump
out data significantly faster than 19,200 baud. The GDT Softworks driver
(PowerPrint) and the Insight Dev'nt one (MacPrint) also take advantage of
this. I am not sure whether the new Grappler driver uses a
serial-to-parallel conversion.

I have also used each of the two drivers that I use on the DJ, with a DJ500
that is normally used at my work on a Windows machine. The printer is
faster, but since I don't have a serial-to-parallel cable and was running
>From an SE, it still took about 2 minutes per page. (whereas with a faster
mac and the conversion cable you could easily get speeds the equal of the
DeskWriter, of 30 secs per page.)

Phil Ryan
Melbourne, Australia

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:30:57 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: DOS.INIT 1.2 conflicts with Apple File Exchange (and copy)

On 6 Oct 92 15:51:09 GMT you said:
>>  I tried the file uploaded as dos-cp-12.hqx. It does allow DOS
>>  disks to be mounted on the desktop as advertised. However, when I
>>  tried to use Apple File Exchange to translate a file, it bombed.
>
> I've also tried the CDEV, and DOS-disks mount fine. I can also open
>text files with TeachText or MS Word, but if I try to copy or duplicate
>files I get error -58.
>
>I hope the author reads this.

Not very likely.  If you check the message on top of the post (and the
.hqx file) you'll not that DOS.INIT was downloaded from AOL.  Internet
mailers won't like the space in "Werewolf 7"  I suppose the address is
one of Werewolf.7@aol.com, Werewolf_7@aol.com, or "Werewolf 7"@aol.com.

Then again, maybe someone who also use AOL can inquire?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:51:24 +0800
From: rcjpjrv@uxmail.ust.hk (Rick Jarvis)
Subject: Drag & drop utility [Q]

I'm looking for a utility which will provide a palette of applications
which could remain on the desktop for drag-and-drop use. I've tried
LaunchPad, which is nice but requires 2 steps: d&d to an icon then select
>From a menu. What I would like is a palette (whose size & placement I could
configure) of small icons from applications which would be available for
d&d. I think such an interface would do wonders for helping to keep the
desktop neat. Does anyone know of such a utility? Any takers? TIA.

Rick Jarvis, Hong Kong Univ Sci & Tech, rcjpjrv@uxmail.ust.hk

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:28:35 EST
From: John Alciere <jmalciere@eng.xyplex.com>
Subject: Error type 28

I am running M/S Word 4.0 on an 8 Meg Mac II cx, with System 7 (tuned).  The
application frequently quits, producing a message that says "Application
'unknown' has unexpectedly quit, because an error of Type 28 has occurred."  I
had been running M/S Word under sys 6.0.4 and 6.0.7 for about 3 years, and
never experienced this problem.  Since "upgrading" to System 7, I have
experienced the problem at least once daily.  Doubling the Application memory
size has had no effect.

Any clues?  (Please respond directly.  Thanks.)

-- John Alciere, Xyplex, Inc., Boxborough, MA

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:30:36 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: External Monitors for the old Portable

My brother has an old nonbacklit Portable.  It has a port for an external
monitor.  Has anyone successfully hooked anything up to this sucker?  Do
you need additional hardware?  What monitor characteristics are required?
He's gotten a Zenith ZVM133 color monitor.  Is there any way to make that
sucker work?  I doubt it, but thought I would check with the world.

Jon

------------------------------

Date: 7 Oct 92 15:45:27 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: FileMaker Import (Q)

     FileMaker Import (Q)
I have a couple of offices that have FileMaker Pro and they wish to import
work
files that have been downloaded from the campus IBM mainframe.  I've done this
quite often with FoxBase+/Mac and FoxPro (IBM).  I've just appended to a
predefined data file with file type SDF (standard delimiter format) where each
record has a fixed record length (i.e. first name occupies columns 1-20, last
name occupies columns 21-50, etc.), so I just set the field lengths in the
local database to match the lengths specified in the mainframe definition.  My
question is:  How do I do this in FileMaker?  I looked at their manual and
they
have about 8 file formats supported for import, but nothing that looks like
something I can use.  Any FileMaker Pros out there willing to lend me a hand?
TIA

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:28:09 GMT
From: janus@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: font monger -- should I buy it?

Does anyone have any strong feelings about FontMonger.  I
would like to be able to create composit characters that are
not available as such in PostScript. (Like an "o" with a hook or
tail.)  I understand FontMonger does this and lots more.
I use a MacIIci with 8 meg ram and a HPLJIIIp Postscript level2
cartridge.  Should I buy FontMonger or something else?

Louis Janus

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 23:45:27 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA%ITOCSIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: getting from fto on pc and transferring to mac

Sorry, I think this is a FAQ, anyway...
I get files by FTP with a RISC 950h/Unix that writes files on DOS 1.44
diskette
s. The writes are ok because this way I received and used DOS autoexplding
file
s without any problem.
When I get Mac files from - say - sumex-aim, I receive them on DOS 1.44 disk,
t
hen on Mac run AFE, insert my disk, and then the first question: which
translat
or must I use: standard or text? must I set any translation parameters
(CR/CRLF
, and so on)?
When the files are on Mac they appear from teachtext with a text header
descrbi
ng the file and then a line saying ; here starts the program.
Program lines in binhexed mode appear ended by a small white square: is this
OK
? I strip the text header before debinhexing: is this OK?
And then, when debinhexing, binhex gives garbage as "creator", and stops after
some 200 bytes. Any help?
Perhaps, if this a FAQ you could answer directly to me. Thanks. Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: LANA@ITOCSIVM.BITNET  | phone & fax 39-11-837262
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 16:35:15 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <BEBRF14%NERVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Hard disks and OCR

Dear net, I need some information about hard disks, scanners, and OCR.

What we have: SE/30 running System 7.0 (tuned), 8 megs RAM, 40 meg HD.

Goal: We want to do *painless* OCR and put a larger hard disk inside
the SE/30.  We also want to put the SE/30's 40 meg HD into an external
case for use with a 4 meg MAc Plus.

The budget for doing all of this must not exceed $1,900.

What would you do?  So far, I am thinking an internal 105 for $300 and
an external case/power supply for $110. Apple's One Scanner $1000. I
have no clue what would be the best OCR software.  Again, what would you
do?
reply to: bebrf14@nervm

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:20:19 -0500
From: chai@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: How do I *remove* Sys 7 tuneup?

I installed System 7 tuneup back when I was short on memory... now I have
more RAM, and I would like to be able to turn on Appletalk without rebooting.
Does anyone know how?

Please email and I'll post a summary.

Thank you.

Ian <chai@cs.uiuc.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:03:36 CDT
From: NEWBERRY@PHYS.TAMU.EDU
Subject: INIT Loading Program

Does anyone here know of a program that will intercept the icons of
various INITs being displayed at startup?  I'd like some program that
keeps them from writing over each other or trailing off past the
edge of my screen.  In addition, I'd like one that was compatible
with MaxAppleZoom, though I realize, since it redraws the screen at
boot time, that's probably asking too much.  Anyone know of a program
that might even be close to what I'm looking for?

Rob Newberry
NEWBERRY@PHYS.TAMU.EDU

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:32:35 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: InitShare

On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:42 EDT you said:
>A day or so ago I posted a request about sharing init's over a network
>(or diskless booting of pluses), and one of the responses to me
>suggested using the program INITShare, however, that program is no
>longer in the SUMEX archives...  Does anyone have INITShare?

INITShare is older than System 7; it probably isn't worth shoving
something more recent off of sumex for it.  ftp mac.archive.umich.edu
and get /mac/system.extensions/cdev/initshare.sit.hqx

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 19:30:53 PST
From: John Wical <UNCJWI%LLUVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: internet-tour-xx.hqx

Where can I get the Internet Tour hypercard stack?

John

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:32 IST
From: Michael Green <SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Leafax II (Wanted)

I have a friend who is searching to buy a second hand Leafax II film scanner
for his Mac.  Any leads appreciated.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 16:24:45 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA%ITOCSIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: lost address at navpgs

I got a message from a guy at NAVPGS. I answered and deleted the original
messa
ge. Then I got a warning from navpgs that the username was wrong. Could you,
lo
st netter, write back to me?
Thanks. Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: LANA@ITOCSIVM.BITNET  | phone & fax 39-11-837262
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:52:37 EDT
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: MacTCP config solution!

Ok, after being helped by: Geert Jan (awserkh@cc.ruu.nl), Sylvia Elliott
(sylviae@uga.cc.uga.edu) and Patrick Hoepfner (hoepfner@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov)
I finally got this blasted system working.

Suggestion 1) Get the report from report/mac-tcp.txt and read it. VERY
	      useful in helping me figure out everything (almost everything)
	      that I needed to know
Suggestion 2) Reinstall everything, i.e. System folder and the ethernet
	      drivers from masters. Kinda obvious eh? Don't worry about
	      reinstalling apps.
Suggestion 3) If you're lost, ask the net! Its a GREAT resource, especially
	      when you get a problem solved that you've been going after
	      off and on for two years! I should have asked earlier!
Suggestion 4) Get masters off of reliable sources, i.e. for Shiva products
	      from anonymous ftp from their site shiva.com


Thanks 'gain!

Dieder

------------------------------

Date: WED, 07 Oct 92 17:12:21 EDT
From: "Francois Boulet" <UQPSGFB@UQSS.UQuebec.CA>
Subject: MacX

I'm looking for information on the MacX software. The only thing
I know about it is his name! so tell me if I'm right that I can
use it to log to a HP unix machine, and if so, how (ethernet
neccesary?), and what is his advantage compare to an ordinary
vt100 or vt200 terminal emulator. And, of course, name and address
of manufacturer and distributor and price would be valuable info!

Merci! and pardon for my bad english!

Francois Boulet
uqpsgfb@uqss.uquebec.ca

------------------------------

Date: 06 Oct 1992 22:21:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: PILFERED PUBLISHING TM <JMS015@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
Subject: Magical Moving Icons with Sys7

I would like to post this question to all of the Mac guru's out there

	I am using a Mac LC 4/40 with a 105MB external Hard drive as well.
	System 7 with tune-up 1.1.1.  My problem is with icons that don't
	stay in place.  Right after I open the folder I chose Clean Up All
	(Holding down option) and the icons go staggered into their correct
	position like I want.  Unfortunately after I close the window and
	then re-open it the icons are put back into their messed up
	alignment.
	This doesn't seem to happen on the internal drive but only on the
	external which is a MacLand 105MB drive. I originally thought that
	rebuilding the desktop would take care of this but it didn't.  I tried
	Norton 1.1.2 and a Disinfectant 2.9 scan and came up empty. The only
	other option I can think of would be reinstalling the system. I
	would rather not do this because of the multiple Res-Edit changes but
	if that is the only option left, I will do it to fix the problem.

Respond either on this list or directly to the below address.
Thanks in advance,
	Jeff Sass
	Drake University
	JMS015@acad.drake.edu           :)      :)      :)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:04:09 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: Memory Question

In Info-Mac #241, Don Lee (DL10@cornell.edu) wrote:

> - A IIci with more than 8Megs of RAM installed...
> - 32-bit addressing is NOT turned on.
>
> The question : Why can't virtual memory be used? - The button can be
> turned "ON", but no extra memory can be allocated... [Stuff deleted]
> ...or what I'm missing?

Quite simply, VM cannot be turned on in this situation because you
cannot allocate more memory.  With 32-bit addressing OFF, the address
path of the Mac is 24-bits.  This corresponds to 2**24 possible memory
addresses.  This translates to a maximum of 8 megabytes of RAM.  After
that, the computer quite simply runs out of addresses for the extra
RAM space.  Turning 32-bit addressing on changes the maximum address
to 2**32, or about 1 Gigabyte (I think.)

Hope this helps.

Matthew Cravit.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 00:07:23 -0400
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Memory Question (A)

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>- A IIci with more than 8Megs of RAM installed - say 12Megs as an example.
>- 32-bit addressing is NOT turned on

>The Question:  Why can't virtual memory be used? - The button can be turned
>     "ON", but no extra memory can be allocated (as far as I can
>     tell).
>When 32-bit addressing is turned on, VM behaves normally.

>Without going into why anyone would install more than 8Megs of physical
>memory and not use it, can anyone give me a technical explanation of why VM
>can't be used in this situation? (...or what I'm missing?)

For the same reason the whole 12 megs aren't usable; VM as built in by
Apple is still subject to the 8-meg '24-bit' limit.  If you put the
32-bit addressing on, some programs (not most) will crash, but you
will be able to use 12 megs physical + much more (I don't recall the
actual limit) virtual...

	-=Alan

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 2:17:53 PDT
From: AUGUST@JPLLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV (Richard B. August)
Subject: Needed: Mac-Sun Floppy Formatter/Reader

Does anyone know the whereabouts of a program (Mac) which formats and reads
/mounts Sun formatted floppies?  I remember having such a beastie, and
think that I got it from the Sumex-Aim repository.  Any ideas?  Pointers
welcome.
Thanks in advance.

Richard B. August
august@jpllsi.jpl.nasa.gov
76630.335@compuserve.com

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:06:35 -0600
From: sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart)
Subject: Opening Freehand-created EPSF in Illustrator:  What's the trick?

I can remember reading someplace a quickie hack to Freehand-created EPSF
files that will allow them to be opened (and edited) by Adobe Illustrator.
I can't for the life of me remember where I read it or what the hack was.
Does anyone remember seeing it or better yet, know what the hack is?

Shawn Barnhart sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 21:51:08 EDT
From: #66 Andrew Brandt <brandt@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: PowerBooks and Color Quickdraw

I know all PowerBooks except the 100 have color quickdraw in ROM.
And that apps that require color quickdraw will not work on a PB 100.

My question is, will the Color Quickdraw INIT from a while ago enable
PB 100 users to use color-quickdraw apps?

If so, where can I ftp 32-bit color QD?
If not, why did it work on, say, a IIcx but not a PB 100?

Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:47:29 -0500
From: Arvid Burns <aburns@plains.NoDak.edu>
Subject: Quark Extensions

Does anyone know of a FTP site that has the latest coolest freebie
extensions from Quark and others?

Thanks in advance

Arvid Burns
aburns@plains.nodak.edu

------------------------------

Date: 07 Oct 1992 15:46:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: quicktime

where can I find quicktime
and what do I need to run
quicktime programs?

.......
:  o/ : Bryan Smith
: <|  : Colgate University
: / > : internet: bsmith@center.colgate.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:31:43 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Quieting the startup sound

On Mon, 5 Oct 92 22:50 EDT you said:
>Anyone know how to turn off the startup sound of the Mac Quadra? Is
>it possible?

Put a phonoplug in the sound output on the back.  The downside is that
will turn off ALL the sound from the Quadra.  I don't know of any way to
turn off just the startup sound on any Mac.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:14:32 MET
From: tom@thg.hobby.nl (Tom Gewecke)
Subject: QWK Reader for Mac (R)

One of the best QWK readers for the Mac is Alice (Version 2.1.2 or
later) by Michael Keller in Germany.  It has automatic decompression
(under multifinder or system 7) and is very fast.  It will also read
XRS.  Shareware fee is $15. I have not found an FTP source yet, but
the program is supposed to be available from fidonet node 2:243/100
as ALI214EA.SEA (password APPLE).  Keller's address is 2:243/100.99.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:29:07 +0600
From: williw1@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams)
Subject: Reactions

>>Do you realize you're pirating software?  The AppleTalk Internet router is
>>a commercial product.
>
>This is just the sort of kneejerk reaction that really gets my goat.  First
>off, I work for Apple.  We wrote it.  I'm stealing it from a company that
>allows their employees to use it.  In fact, I have a pre-release beta version
>in an effort to help test the damn thing!  Hardly stealing.  Apple even owns
>the machine I'm running at home (although it's due to be mine soon).
>
>I'm not trying to lambast you Wade, I just think that this is another example
>of the "holier than thou" attitude sneaking out, and it annoys the hell out
>of me.  Whatever happened to assuming people are decent and forthright?


Jon,

No offense intended.  I'm not trying to have a holier than thou attitude,
just trying to keep people educated and make them think twice.  As for
assuming that people are decent, I make no assumptions of their character
as a whole, but I do know that regardless of what anyone says, the *vast*
majority of computer users pirate without a second thought.  What's even
worse, many come up with justifications for doing so.

You'd be amazed at how many people call me for support with their computer.
 When asked to have their original disks ready when I come over to the
office, there's a long pause.  When told they can't get support unless they
can produce said original disks, some even prefer to figure it out for
themselves rather than purchase the software.

I doubt you could find one user in a thousand that hasn't pirated software
at some point in their lives.  I'll admit it - in my days as a student I
did.  However, I don't do it now and even regisiter any shareware that I
use.

I simply wrote the reply without looking at your signature.  You happened
to work at the one company out of thousands where it's not illegal to do
what you did.

I was amazed that anyone would admit in public that they did such a thing.
That should have been my first clue to see who wrote the note. :)

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
williw1@mail.auburn.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 12:22:19 EDT
From: Alan David Bulley <458507@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
Subject: Reading CETEDOC CD-ROM on the Mac

I ran across a question on another list which might well be answered by
someone with some specialized knowledge on this one. The question asked
concerned whether or not it was possible to read the CD-ROM disks put
out by  the CETEDOC project (a collection of early Christian texts in
Latin) on a Mac equipped with a CD drive. One person suggested that the
best way to do this would be to run the Mac as a PC emulator (using
SoftPC/AT) -- but surely this can't be the only solution?

Does anyone on this list have experience with the disks from this
particular project, and if so, which CD drive are you using and in
conjunction with which search engine?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Alan D. Bulley
Saint Paul University/ Universite St-Paul

458507@AcadVM1.UOttawa.CA  (Internet)
458507@UOttawa             (Bitnet)

------------------------------

Date: 07 Oct 1992 15:45:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: resedit tools

where can I find Resedit tools?

.......
:  o/ : Bryan Smith
: <|  : Colgate University
: / > : internet: bsmith@center.colgate.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:46:58 -0400
From: "l.   valentine" <valentin@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject: Saving as PS in System 7

Maybe this is a FAQ, but I just saved a file as PostScript, using the
System 7 print option, but I cannot place it in PageMaker 4.2 because
of an "Illegal Postscript Syntax" error. Is there any way around
this?

Another question. Does anyone know of any free or shareware that
does pitch extraction? I would like to be able to study utterance
pitch, but know of no reasonably priced Mac program that does
extraction.

Thanks.

Rand Valentine
valentin@julian.uwo.ca

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:57:21 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: System 7.1 Features

The estimates I have heaard bandied about are that we expect less than 20%
of US users to upgrade to 7.1 because there are no benefits to English users.
All of the benefits of WorldScript only become apparent when you use non-
Roman script systems.  That's one of the reasons they are planning on
charging for it. They don't see a need for everyone to upgrade.

Jon

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 11:34:19 -0400
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: Upgrade to Microsoft Word 5 imminent?

In comp.sys.mac.digest RICHARD LIM
<RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:

>Can anyone out there confirm or deny what someone mentioned to me in passing
>lately, namely that Word 5.1 is due very shortly?  If so, is it likely to be
>much more like Word for Windows 2, in accordance with Microsoft's declared
>policy of maintaining consistency between Mac and Windows apps?  Not that I
>particularly like WfW 2, although it has some nice features...

Word 5.1 is expected some time during December. The release will roll in
QuickTime support (who cares) user configurable toolbars, a charting
module, one click table generation, an address book (again, who cares),
improved Find File ability, a PowerBook specific reduced installation
option, text-annotation, and automatic drop caps. But NO MACROS!!!!

Current reports in the media indicate that the release will NOT be a free
upgrade but should be cheaper than a full upgrade.

The descriptions that I have heard imply a lot of improvements that will
bring Word for Mac in line with the Windows product but I am extremely
displeased with the continued omission of Macros. Microsoft TEch Support
has reportedly told some callers that Word for Mac may never have Macros
because the implementation is too difficult (source: "Letters" Pg. 39, Mac
Week, 10.05.92). If that is the case Microsoft is full of it (IMO, of
course).

Get out your checkbook...

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business
	  "Suppose that you were an idiot and suppose you were
	      a member of Congress.  But I repeat myself."
			       - Mark Twain

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 22:15:30 CDT
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <C509393@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Win 3.1 beats 7.0

A prof on my doctoral committee insists that the Mac and its system are
doomed. He contends that he can (a) multitask all his programs on his 386
running Windows 3.1 but not on an FX running System 7; (b) programs are
becoming identical on each platform so why buy an overpriced Mac; (c) monitors
are cheaper and better for PCs than the Apple 13 inch. Would appreciate
rebuttals. Obliged, Eric.

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Date: 7 Oct 92 02:15:54 EDT
From: David.M.Tillinghast@Dartmouth.EDU
Subject: Word 5.1/Word 6.0

RICHARD LIM wrote:
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Subject: Upgrade to Microsoft Word 5 imminent?
Can anyone out there confirm or deny what someone mentioned to me in passing
lately, namely that Word 5.1 is due very shortly?  If so, is it likely to be
much more like Word for Windows 2, in accordance with Microsoft's declared
policy of maintaining consistency between Mac and Windows apps?  Not that I
particularly like WfW 2, although it has some nice features...

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In talking to a Microsoft support person, I happened to ask if Word would get
any upgrading anytime soon. He said things have been pretty hush hush, but
that conventional wisdom over in the Mac branch of Microsoft has it that they
have something on the order of 50 programmers working through the nights to
produce a "significant" upgrade. He wouldn't even guess for me what version
nomenclature would be used. My guess is Word 6, but I'm usually wrong about
these things.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:08:14 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: Word 5.1 upgrade

A question was posted in Info-Mac #241 about Word 5.1.  Since I have
not figured out how to make my E-Mailer quote the message, I'll simply
answer it.

Word 5.1 is expected to ship some time in November.  The estimated
upgrade price will be between $25 and $125.  It is supposed to be
a fair bit like WinWord 2, but I don't recall the specifics.  Check
last week's issue of MacWeek; they had a good article on Word 5.1
on the front page.

Matthew Cravit

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 02:52:25 PDT
From: SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU

Subject:      UK Internet access
============================================================================

Jonothon Fletcher at compsci.stirling wanted to know about this. I couldn't
reach his own address, so ...

Jon, I got this from someone else I can't recall. I'd be interested to hear
your progress with it.

Dial 071-388-2333

Press Enter to wake up the node, and at the Which Service prompt enter PAD.
You might have to press C several times to get the PAD> prompt.
Then enter: call a00004001018057 (a Janet address) - this connects you to a
guest Telnet service.

I realize you're quite a distance from London, but it's a start. Try it out
and
maybe from there you'll find a local number.
					    - Mike.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:32:35 GMT
From: williams@chambord.tours.inra.fr (John.Williams)

Having followed most of the debate on Apple's decision to charge for
system 7.1, I suppose I must side with those who think that Apple
shouldn't charge for this upgrade.

However, I happen to think that there is no such thing as free
software from a commercial company.  If there is no charge for the
product, its cost is absorbed into 'general overheads' which are taken
into account when a company sets its pricing policy and the mark-up
of manufacturing costs it need to cover these overheads.  If Apple had
charged for MacWrite and MacPaint in 1984, it could have lowered the
price of the 128K Macintosh, but it decided to sell the software
bundled with the computer and set an almost historic precedent.  Many
people got the idea that Mac software was free as there was no price
for MacWrite and MacPaint; you couldn't buy either of these programs
as stand alone packages even if you wanted to (and, of course, no-one
did as everyone who had a Mac had these programs). It was only later
that Apple decided to unbundle Macs to encourage third-party
developers to produce word processing and painting software, a
largely successful move.  It is, of course, curious that the pendulum
has swung back recently with the decision to bundle ClarisWorks with
the low-end Macs.  This has produced a nonsensical situation:
ClarisWorks is 'free' but system 7.1 isn't (until it gets to be shipped
with all new Macs, I suppose...)

So how should Apple sell its excellent system software?  First, they
need to start with a significantly new upgade.  System 7.0 fitted this
bill, 7.1 doesn't, and 7.X might when we get scripting, Adobe type
management and the new QuickDraw routines.  The idea of charging for
the manuals, introduced with system 7.0, seemed quite reasonable and
I wonder why Apple didn't stay with this. Didn't System 7.0 sell well?
If it has to be that all future system upgrades obtained via a dealer
must be paid for, there is still a good case for retaining a free
distribution via apple.com.  As someone rightly pointed out, netters
are a minority and the potential loss in revenue to Apple must be
minimal if free distribution by anonymous ftp is maintained.
However, many netters are academics (also pointed out previously)
whose students are potential customers, so it makes good commercial
sense to put the latest and best system software on college
computers.  This is best done by offering it via ftp for free.  The net
community also provides a tough testing ground for system software .
It is clear that the beta test system, although invaluable, does not
always suffice (think of system 7 and tune-up...), so it makes sense to
let the extension freaks on the net get hold of the latest system and
pummel it mercilessly.  As soon as a bug appears, you'll hear all about
it on info-mac and the other newsletters, and I think that many people
will notify Apple directly by e-mail to apple.com.  Finally, system 7.1
will probably get distributed (illegally) via the sneaker net.  Fred
down the corridor gets a new Mac, so you go down to borrow his disks
and get the newest sytem just like you always did, or you borrow
them because your machine crashed and the dealer told you to try re-
installing the system, right? A lot of people will get 7.1 like this
without ever knowing that it's not free any more because they don't
read info-mac as often as you or I, and because no-one has told them
that Apple's policy has changed.  Apple could if it mailed all
registered users but I can't see this happening.

So, in summary, a badly-timed decision.  It could have been carried off
when system 7 was introduced, now it may have to wait for system 8.
Apple commercial policy makers, are you reading me?

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:44:47 +0100
From: Jacob Palme SKHB  <jpalme@heron.dafa.se>

Comparison of three ways of converting a Microsoft Word document
>From Word 5.0 on the Macintosh to Word 2.0 for Windows, using the
file conversion facilities built into the Word program:

File format on                  Diagram Date      Page no. Tabs in
the diskette                                               header
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Macintosh Word 5.0              No      Wrong  Right     Wrong
(conversion in the PC)

Word for Windows                Yes,but Wrong  Wrong     Wrong
2.0 (conversion by              not per-
Macintosh Word)                 fect

RTF format                      No      Right  Right     Right
(conversion in both
computers)

Conclusion: If your manuscript contains diagram, you should let
Macintosh Word convert to the Word for Windows 2.0 format before
moving the document to the PC.

If there are no diagrams, the best results are to convert to the
RTF format in the Macintosh, and then convert again from the RTF
format in the PC.

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