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From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: How to Auto-Acknowledge Your E-mail?
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:20:55 GMT

In article <01GTTUGKA3HC8X24W7@Orion.YorkU.CA>, AS362472@Orion.YorkU.CA
wrote:
> 
> I've noticed that some people have configured their (e-mail) account
> to automatically acknowledge mail received when they are away for an 
> extended period of time.  How does one go about setting up such a
> mechanism?  I have a colleague who would like to have her e-mail
> automatically acknowledged when it arrives in her account. My colleague is
> on a VM/CMS system, but I would also like to know how to accomplish the
> same thing on a Unix system.
> 
> Thanks for any assistance received.
> 
> Rick Broadhead   as362472@orion.yorku.ca
> 
>       
> 

How to do this depends what system you are using.  In
versions of UNIX derived from the Berkeley (BSD) stuff,
there's a program called "vacation" for this job.  However,
the documentation for it on my system is in the usual
UNIX gobbledegook.  I tried to set it up once to do
two things: save a copy in my mailbox (so I'd see it
on my return) and send a message to the sender that
I was on vacation and would reply when I got back.

However, even though I thought it was set up exactly
as the docs said, test messages got bounced with
"unknown mailer" errors.  Based on my past experience
every time I try something in UNIX for the first time,
I could probably figure out what was wrong in half a day
or so.  Since I had other things to do before heading off
to the ski resort, I gave up.  Perhaps the next time I'm
about to leave for vacation I'll set aside half a day
to figure this one out.  I probably missed some d---d
punctuation mark or something; I know it *can* be done...

Ain't UNIX wonderful?  :-) :-) ;-}


Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
From: stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: (not an) RFC: mailbox format
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:39:48 GMT
Organization: Coastal Imaging Lab, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: ruby.oce.orst.edu

In article <MS-C.727914241.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
>The MIME archives are filled with discussions on how binary data is
>represented in mail.  It seems that AT&T/SUN have paid no attention to
>this at all.

Since you bring it up . . .

Is there any good reason why MIME chose to go with its own version of
binary encoding instead of using UUENCODE?

While there are some systems that can't pass UUENCODEd data (converting
one ASCII character to something else, as I recall), UUENCODE IS almost
universally available, while MIME is not. 

It is rather counterproductive to require a user to know that the
recipient's mailer is MIME compatible before sending a binary. 

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: news@pollux.lu.se (Owner of news files)
Subject: Re: Novell to IP mail gateway
Organization: Lund University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:30:56 GMT


In article <1993Jan22.004315.26204@actrix.gen.nz> Quentin.Smart@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.153833.10985@das.harvard.edu> sasaki@netop3.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) writes:
>> 
>> Currently getting email from the PCs to the university backbone involves
>> going through three (or four, depends on how you count them) machines.
>> .... 
>> What are the alternatives? Are there any free or inexpensive software
>> packages?
>
>What mail package's are you using? 
>Some, most? of the comercial Mail packages have SMTP gateways that mean you
>don't need the complication of a MHS hub, but then you will usly be running
>their version of a HUB.
>I guess the expensive options would be to use:
> 
> MS-Mail (There has been talk about inadequacies of their SMTP gateway)
> 
> CC: Mail (Lotus have a SMTP gateway of rthis but it's V.Expensive)
> 
> WPOffice They currently don't produce a PC SMTP gateway but there are 3rd
> party options available. (Email me for more info on this one)
>
>The PD or cheap option would be:
> PMAIL which I think only needs a charon box.
> or other options like POP etc..
>
>Hope this helps
>smart@actrix.gen.nz
>

We use DaVinci eMAIL with MHS to SMTP Gateway (S-Bridge). I think it works
very well here on our LANtastic network. A 286 acts as gateway with a single
network card.
_________________________________________________________________
Johan Winberg              		Dept. of Heat & Power Engineering
johan.winberg@vok.lth.se       	Lund Institute of Technology
vox: +46-(0)46 104302          	P.O. Box 118
fax: +46-(0)46 104717          	S-221 00 LUND, Sweden
From: dmp@cs.bham.ac.uk (Donald Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Creating Email Mailshot Lists
Date: 20 Jan 93 13:08:10 GMT
Organization: Cognitive Science, Birmingham, UK

For organising conference and advertising our courses I have to create
mailshot lists from accumulated email, and I'd like to find a cleaner
way of doing it. The accumulated email comes from various people with
various systems (mail, MH, Poplog) and often involves duplicates.

What I've been doing is:

* extract the From: lines with fgrep
* isolate the addresses using emacs keyboard macros
* remove spaces with emacs 
* change everything to lower case
* remove duplicate addresses using uniq
* sort using sort 

Does anyone have any scripts etc. which do a clean job? 

PLease email me direct as well as posting to the net.

Thanks,

Donald Peterson.

email: D.M.Peterson@cs.bham.ac.uk
From: AS362472@Orion.YorkU.CA
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: How to Auto-Acknowledge Your E-mail?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:24:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've noticed that some people have configured their (e-mail) account
to automatically acknowledge mail received when they are away for an 
extended period of time.  How does one go about setting up such a
mechanism?  I have a colleague who would like to have her e-mail
automatically acknowledged when it arrives in her account. My colleague is
on a VM/CMS system, but I would also like to know how to accomplish the
same thing on a Unix system.

Thanks for any assistance received.

Rick Broadhead   as362472@orion.yorku.ca

      



 
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: WANTED: Need to buy following email packages
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:51:18 GMT

I want to buy the entry-level versions of the following commercial PC
email packages:

-	Microsoft Mail (Windows client and server...not the WfW
	version)
-	cc:Mail for Windows (client and server)
-	BeyondMail for Windows (just the client...we have MHS)
-	Zmail for UNIX (SunOS binary)

If you have one that you used for an evaluation and no longer need, I
would appreciate your selling it to me.  Please contact me by mail.

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: wes@wes.win.net (Wes Rishel)
Subject: Listing of FTPmail servers?
Reply-To: wes@wes.win.net (Wes Rishel)
Organization: Computer Witchcraft, Inc., SF, CA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:19:52 GMT

Is there a listing anywhere of available ftpmail servers?

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                   "Planning for Open Architecture"
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Wes Rishel Consulting                                   (510) 522-8135
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes)
Subject: Re: Z-mail: is it any good?
Keywords: Z-mail
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:55:43 GMT

In article <Jan.22.16.45.24.1993.25448@pilot.njin.net> giacobbe@pilot.njin.net (Jeff Giacobbe) writes:
>Is anyone out there using Z-mail in an environment of Suns, Vaxen, and
>tty terminals?

We have all the above here. The people here that use Z-mail are
primarily workstation users, both Suns and X terminals. They
seem to like it a lot, but don't mind too horribly using Elm with
MIME support or Pine from home. The VMS folks stick to Mail-11,
mostly because it's so tied into VMS that it's hard to avoid it.

>3) Both UnixWorld and the Sun Observer think Z-mail is the best thing
>since the Smart Clapper(tm).

Sun Observer thinks 'acc' is a neat idea too, so I'm inclined to
think less of their opinion. Zmail's a nice package, but it's not
the be-all/end-all. The Andrew mail system is probably more
mature, and it's free -- and has a fairly usable text-only interface.

>are my users stuck with VMS mail on the Vax, Quickmail on the Mac,
>Mailtool and or MM on the Sun, etc ,etc, etc...

The VMS people are pretty much stuck with VMS Mail (or MM if you
have TGV Multinet). Everybody else seems pretty happy with Elm
with MIME mods or Pine, or even RiceMAIL on CMS. 


-- 
David Boyes      In the event I am captured or killed, Rice University
dboyes@rice.edu  and the Office of Networking and Computing Systems
                 will deny any knowledge of my opinions.
Xref: sparky comp.mail.misc:4504 comp.mail.mime:186
From: mvanheyn@whale.cs.indiana.edu (Marc VanHeyningen)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.mime
Subject: Re: (not an) RFC: mailbox format
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:54:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.mail.mime
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Indiana University
X-Quoted: 42%

Thus said stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley):
>Is there any good reason why MIME chose to go with its own version of
>binary encoding instead of using UUENCODE?
>
>While there are some systems that can't pass UUENCODEd data (converting
>one ASCII character to something else, as I recall), UUENCODE IS almost
>universally available, while MIME is not. 

This is exactly why.  It doesn't do much good for the recipient to
have uudecode available if the data was munged somewhere along the
way.  By the way, MIME didn't invent base64 encoding out of thin air,
but borrowed it from the PEM RFCs.

Followups set to comp.mail.mime.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: damin@randell.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: Directing a Domain's Mail to a file
Organization: Cleveland State University, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:32:50 GMT


	Hi all... I have this crazy need to re-direct the mail for a sub-domain
running under a Host system to a file. 

In other words, ALL incoming mail for xxx@xxx.xxx.fvnet.org needs to be routed
to a sperate file where it can be parsed and distributed.

Any ideas?
From: nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Colo.Memory Systems e-mail address?
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:11:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: deepthou.9301252211.AA28594
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In <1993Jan25.134030.27077@clpd.kodak.com> thomas@clpd (bulli@kodak.com) 
writes:

>> lorance romero (lromero@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
>
>: does anyone know Colo. Memory Systems email address.  I know a friends
>: email name but not the rest.  Thanks in advance.
>
> I once conversed with someone there, his address was "user@csn.org".

Might be better to try "user@cms.com" first.

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Whois: colorado memory
Colorado Memory Systems (CMS-DOM)                                   CMS.COM
Colorado Memory Systems (NET-CMSNET) CMSNET                     155.208.0.0
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: MS Mail: is this an MHS-compatible system?
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:06:38 GMT
Distribution: na

I had an SE for an integration firm tell me the other day that
MS Mail (v3.0) was an MHS-based mail package.

Is this true?  What really does that mean?

Is this covered by a FAQ?

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From: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: How to "hide" large distributions in mail
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:50:46 GMT
	<gfNKI3T0BwxI8LiWYZ@transarc.com>
Organization: Sponsored account, Applications Software, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.mail.misc: 26-Jan-93 Re: How to "hide" large
dis.. Craig_Everhart@transarc. (902)

> Not that you'd probably use AMDS unless you were also using AFS, but I
> think that this feature is a good idea.

Oops.  What I meant was that you'd probably NOT use AMDS unless you were
also using AFS (but that its private-distribution-list feature is still
a good idea).  Sorry for the mis-typing.

		Craig
Xref: sparky comp.mail.misc:4459 comp.os.vms:21711
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL - Can I Include Username in PRINT Job?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:21:47 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan20.140907.1@lib.haifa.ac.il>, jody@lib.haifa.ac.il (Yosef Branse) writes:
I'm sorry, you seem to've posted to the wrong group.  You apparently wanted
either ALT.PARANORMAL or TALK.RELIGION.NEWAGE.  You *DID* want to talk to some
mindreaders, didn't you?  Your subject was:
	VMS MAIL - Can I Include Username in PRINT Job?
Now, when the job is submitted, it's submitted under your username, so the
standard banner page will include that, as will the accounting record.  You
didn't include any information in the body of your message, so you MUST have
wanted a mindreader.  Try again in one of the above-mentioned newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: FIDONET, list of sites by location?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:05:12 GMT

In article <0105009A.o7teoi@david.roth-music.com> david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) writes:
|Many times people would like Internet access but don't have anything
|local to them so I thought it might be a good idea to suggest a Fidonet
|BBS to them since their connection to the Internet seems to be common
|these days.

To find a FidoNet node near you, try the "fidonet-nodelist" WAIS source
at kumr.lns.com .  If you don't have a WAIS client, telnet to quake.think.com
and log on as "wais".

  Bill
From: giacobbe@pilot.njin.net (Jeff Giacobbe)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Z-mail: is it any good?
Summary: Is Z-mail a worthwile option?
Keywords: Z-mail
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:45:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

( My apologies if this is a FAQ, or the wrong newsgroup, etc)

Is anyone out there using Z-mail in an environment of Suns, Vaxen, and
tty terminals?


The reason I am asking is twofold:

1) Our department contains a mix of the above hardware, in addition to
terminal emulation software on Mac and PC's (when users dial in from
home).

2) It's hard to get folks to use a full-featured GUI point-and-click
mailer on their workstations (e.g. Sun's Mailtool) and then have them
switch gears (and mailers) when they dial in from home on a text-based
terminal.

[ OK, so it's THREEfold....]

3) Both UnixWorld and the Sun Observer think Z-mail is the best thing
since the Smart Clapper(tm).


So, will Z-mail really live up to all it's promises of
interoperability and portablitily among GUI's and terminal types? Or
are my users stuck with VMS mail on the Vax, Quickmail on the Mac,
Mailtool and or MM on the Sun, etc ,etc, etc...


Adv-Thanks-ance


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.misc
From: Gerry.Mulvenna@launchpad.unc.edu (Gerry Mulvenna)
Subject: IBM employee's E-mail address?
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc 
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:58:37 GMT

I wonder if any IBM employees out would be able to help me out.
I would like to get in touch by e-mail with a cousin of mine who 
works for IBM in Gaithersburg, Maryland.  I am assuming that IBM
might have some lookup facility for e-mail addresses.  I have
tried TelNeting to the military WHOIS server with no joy.

My cousin is called 
                       Phil J Mullan 
and he uses some sort of reference number: 183/2N129.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Gerry Mulvenna <osg1688@v2.qub.ac.uk> or <Gerry.Mulvenna@launchpad.unc.edu>
Belfast, Ireland 

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From: white@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon White)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:18:13 GMT
Subject: Re: IBM employee's E-mail address?
Organization: Palo Alto ITC
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc

My experience has been that the IBMer has to have special permission to have 
Internet access.  I would guess that most don't.  When I sent queries to 
postmaster@ibm.com I got no response at all.  And this was before most of the
layoffs....

Jon White
white@corp.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: MX mix up
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:30:28 GMT

DK> == Doug Kline <kline@head-cfa.harvard.edu>

 DK> We have been experiencing difficulties with MX records.  

 DK> In the case of a couple of nodes for which MX records have been
 DK> installed if sendmail is not running on those nodes, the e-mail
 DK> addressed to them is sent to the other node to which it should be sent
 DK> but, instead of staying there or being forwarded to some third node,
 DK> it is held in defered status on that node, addressed to the node to
 DK> which it was originally addressed and not deliverable.

The lowest preference MX is responsible for making "final" delivery.  If
(as it seems here) it should deliver the mail locally, the MX host's
sendmail needs to be configured to treat mail for its MX clients as local
mail.  (Other cases might include UUCP queueing, FAXing, or carrier pigeon
delivery.)

In the case of IDA sendmail, you may want to declare either PSEUDONYMS or
ALTERNATENAMES, or declare the use of the LOCAL mailer in mailertable.
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From: barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Directing a Domain's Mail to a file
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:10:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: daisy.1jut33INNrt4
Organization: Dept. Elec. Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

In article <1993Jan24.163250.7707@news.csuohio.edu>,
damin@randell.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein) writes:
> In other words, ALL incoming mail for xxx@xxx.xxx.fvnet.org needs to
> be routed to a sperate file where it can be parsed and distributed.

You forgot to say what mail system you use.  The following answer applies
to smail3, and includes extracts from config files that are in use here.
(Only names and places have been changed.)  I also assume that routing
to a file is a non-negotiable requirement.

Make sure that your router configuration ("routers" file) includes
a suitable override paths file (with the "force" attribute) that is
searched before any DNS lookups.  For example:

	# Special connections
	force-special:	driver=pathalias, always, method=paths;
		file = route/force-special, proto=lsearch, optional

(Notice that you can use the same old "method=paths" as usual.)

In the relevant paths file ("route/force-special" in this example),
specify a route to the domain of interest.  On the left hand side you
need to match the domain of interest (with a leading dot), and on the
right hand side you need to specify a dummy host name, that smail will
use internally for looking up the transport in the method file and for
expanding the ${host} variable.  For example:

	.special.some.domain	specialdom!%s

In the relevant methods file ("paths", in this example), specify the
delivery method to be used for the dummy host name.  For example:

	specialdom		special-batch

In the transport configuration ("transports" file), specify how the
chosen delivery method works.  For example:

	special-batch:
		# the appendfile driver can also accumulate in directories
		driver=appendfile,
		hbsmtp,			# send batched SMTP commands
		-max_addrs,		# no limit on number or total size
		-max_chars;		#  of recipient addresses.
		# files whose names begin with `q' will be placed here:
		dir=/usr/smail/spool/outq.special/${lc:host},
		user=specialuser,	# files will be owned by this user
		group=mail,		# and this group
		mode=0600		# and will have this mode

Now, any message to *@special.some.domain or to *@*.special.some.domain
will be stored as a file in the /usr/smail/spool/outq.special/specialdom
directory.  (The ${lc:host} just forces the name to lower case.)
Each file will have a name that starts with a "q", and will contain a
message in hbsmtp format.  Hbsmtp is half-baked BSMTP, without the HELO
and QUIT lines -- there will be a MAIL FROM line, one or more RCPT TO
lines, a DATA line, the message (with the hidden dot protocol), and a
dot line.

You might prefer to use the appendfile driver to append all messages to
a single file.  If so, just say "file=" instead of "dir=" in the relevant
transports entry.

--apb
Alan Barrett, Dept. of Electronic Eng., Univ. of Natal, Durban, South Africa
RFC822: barrett@ee.und.ac.za
From: spp@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Just wondering...
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:52:06 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <REID.93Jan27012619@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu> reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
>Just wondering:  I foward my mail from machine A to machine B - Then I
>foward my mail frm machine B to machine A - what happens when someone
>sends mail to either account?
>

Well, if you do this at 3:00 in the morning, you have a very angry system
administrator in your office at 8:01 (give him time to get into his office and
see his machines having problems).  We had a student here in our department
put *five* local hosts into his .forward file.  They merrily sent the message
to each of the five machine, which in turn sent to each of the five machine,
which.......  Needless to say, I was not a happy camper, as it was my first
day on the job and I didn't have the root passwords yet.  I had to find one
of the other people who had the password, get the password, and fix the problem.

At least, on the good side, I got the passwords that someone had forgotten to
tell me   ;)

Steve
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