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From: maccrimm@unixg.ubc.ca (Keith Maccrimmon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: One False Move(Spoilers?)was(Siskel & Eberts Top 10)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1993Jan3.203320.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>In article <C0Ayz0.AuL@unix.portal.com>, mork@shell.portal.com 
>(James Paul Mork) writes:
> 
>>    My biggest disappointments 1992:
>>       1.  One False Move
>
>Really?  I guess you were expecting alot, because in my book, this was an 
>outstanding small independant film...a true taut thriller.

Really? I rented this film because I thought I had heard of it somewhere.
No idea who was in it or what it was about. Found it very uninvolving.
Found all the violence at the beginning totally unneeded( except for the
used car scene). OK those guys are tough, but so what. they don't interact
very much with other people. I will tolerate violence in films along 
as useful to help the story(my favorite director is Scorsese). And what
about the people they robbed, didn't they have a boss?  I was just waiting
for the conclusion you could see after the first twenty minutes. Not one of
my best film expirences.
   If you want to see an outstanding independent film see Miller's Crossing 
by the Coen Brothers.

				Keith MacCrimmon
 























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From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:59:09 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products


a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:
> In article <1ik4l0INN8jm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
> >
> >S. Spencer Sun writes (in response to my post)
> >
> >>>In article <1ii11gINN4ba@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
> >>>, cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu >(Mar:
> >>>                                                                      
> >>>Movie theaters that advertise "Dolby Stereo" and
> >>>then don't have the surround speakers turned on when
> >>>the movie starts. This forces me to miss the first moments
> >>>of a film to go speak to some pimply faced teenager
> >>>behind the concession stand who
> >>>informs me it's not his problem. Aaauuuugggghhh,
> >>>I HATE THAT!!!
> >                                  
> >>It isn't, it's the projectionist/manager's.  The concessions
> >>person certainly is not in a position to deal with your
> >>complaint (although you could tell them to notify someone
> >>who is...)
> >
> >I realize it's not his fault, but I am the patron and he is
> >the employee, 
...
> If you wanted it ADDRESSED (that is really why you got out of your seat.)
> you would need to tell someone who 1) understood your problem.  
>     A concessionist is not your best bet here.
...
> and 2) you also need to tell someone who can solve your problem.

It occurs to me that it's not always real obvious to a movie-goer,
especially one who's hurrying because they don't want to miss very
much of the movie, just _who_ and _where_ the manager is.

Craig
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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: Re: the crying game (big spoiler!)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:47:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.164417.18901@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell) writes:
> eliot gelwan <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com> writes:
> 
> >MS/Is Jaye Davidson (Dil in the movie) male or female?  The promo
> >MS/material available in the theatre was (I assume) deliberatelyRITCHIE
> >
> >She's a woman. Most definitely. I speak from personal experience.
> 
> Trust the net to turn up an expert resource ;-).
> So the surprise shot (which I don't think showed a face)
> was done with a male stand-in, we'd be led to believe?

I have a hard time reconciling this with the ad in VARIETY a couple of
weeks ago placed by the studio suggesting Jaye Davidson for a
nomination for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

(It also points out that trying to split the nominations between Best
Actor and Best Actress is pretty silly.)

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
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say that you would have to sift through your military history till you
find an instance in which failure has been attributed to the presence
of homosexuals on the losing side.  I'm not aware of any such case in
the past 2500 years, but I'd be interested to hear what you find."
-Nathan Engle
From: cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak)
Subject: Re: Accents
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:54:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.185325.24271@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>  Am I really the only one that prefers a movie where the germans
>speak german, the english english and the french french? I find
>the use english with german accent instead of german to be 
>ridicules.

  And the best accent of all.......
      Dick Van Dykes portrayal of an Englishman in Mary Poppins.
      What a classic.....
      Ha ha ha 


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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Weird Movies
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:38:14 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel

trump@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jason Lewis) writes:
>
>I think Hudson Hawk deserves to be listed.  But then, I really 
>liked it...

If *that* is the case, then how about "Supergirl" with Helen Slater
Faye Dunawaye, Peter O'Toole and Brenda Vaccarro? (-;  Seriously,
there must either be an extra hour on the cutting room floor that
explains everything (I've read some of the DC Comics and much of
that movie mystified me) ... either that or the jumps in plot and
logic were intentional like Fellini's "8 1/2". (-;

Spoiler ahead (yes, that's possible) ...



Is Argo City in the movie not Kandor, the city that was shrunken into
a bottle before Krypton's destruction by Lex Luthor after he figured
out time travel?

Also, it seems that Helen Slater went to the same acting academy as
Andy MacDowell ... actually, Slater is a tad more expressive 'cos she
can smile nicely ...

gld
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From: trump@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jason Lewis)
Subject: Re: Weird Movies
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 08:17:20 GMT

In article <3981@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>
>Hi everyone:
>
>Thanks for all the suggestions.  The list of weird movies so far is
>below.  If you can think of more, please add....
>
I think Hudson Hawk deserves to be listed.  But then, I really liked it...

- Mike Lewis
trump@leland.stanford.edu


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From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:59:28 GMT

spencer@stroke.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:

>                                           I do not, however, subscribe
>to the idea that the patron is some god that should be worshipped.

   Having read some of your previous posts, I would characterize the
above sentence as the understatement of the year.

   Please let us know what theater you manage so that those of us who
would rather avoid business establishments managed by people whose
attitude towards their customers is one of contempt can make a point of
never setting foot in it.   
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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Parents (was: what was it?)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:29:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.210334.21554@nosc.mil>, barrus@cod.nosc.mil writes:
|> 
|> In article <1993Jan5.180746.3373@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> netnews@porthos.cc.bellcore.com (USENET System Software) writes:
|> >My friends and I rented Parents (Randy Quaid, Mary Beth Hurt, Sandy
|> >Dennis) to watch over New Year's Day.
|> >
|> >What the hell was -THAT- ??
|> >
|> >It had been put in the comedy section of the video store...
|> >Parents has to be the weirdest picture I have seen in a
|> >very very long time...
|> >
|> >Could some kind soul explain it to me?
|>
|> It was a satire on what it was like growing up in the McCarthy era.  With
|> all the rampant paranoia going on, it would no doubt have an effect on
|> a child.  This movie has the effect having the child even doubt his own
|> parents.  But, the catch of the movie was that, despite all the paranoa,
|> it was all true.  I really enjoyed it.

WHAT?! Did we see the same movie? Is this the one with Steve Martin and Mary
Steenburgen?

HA HA HA HA HA  JUST JOKING!!!

Seriously though, I saw "Parents" but don't remember any McCarthy theme in it. I
thought the point of the movie was:

	A) Make fun of the squeeky clean 1950's
	
	B) Pull in some of that David Lynch "Eraserhead"-type humor making
something pretty normal (ie a family) into a bizarre horroshow.
	
	C) A perfect example of very dry, black humor.

Basically, it's a movie for twisted, demented sociopaths. I loved it.

Anthony
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From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: Kevin Brownlow
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:28:57 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
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Does anyone out there know whether either of Kevin Brownlow's two
features -- "It Happened Here" & "Winstanley" -- are available on
video? Failing that, can somebody give me the address in London
of the British Film Institute?

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From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Seat reservations in movie theatres
Distribution: world
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:24:04 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

The new UCI movie theatre at Port Solent (near Portsmouth, UK) assigns seats
for all of their movies, even if the theatre is nearly empty (as it was when
I saw SWF).  I can see the advantage if the theatre is nearly full, especially
for those who wish to buy tickets early, do some shopping and return just
before the movie starts.  Does anyone know of other theatres doing this,
and if so, do you prefer it?  I was surprised at first, since they don't
do this in the US, and a bit amused, since they pretty much lumped at the
movie-goers, less than one fourth of the capacity, all in the same area
towards the back and middle of the theatre.
--
bruce@zuhause.mn.org
Youth is wasted on the young.

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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:58:58 GMT

In article <1b!3pzn@rpi.edu>, spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>
>Are different-strength bulbs required for different theater
>configurations (e.g. different sizes/types of screen, different
>distances between projector & screen)?

Those are the two basic factors in deciding the wattage of a bulb, as
far as I know.

While we're on the subject, changing the bulb in a projector is nowhere
near as simple or as fast as changing an ordinary household bulb.

-----
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twofold.  First, the ruling class no longer cares for the proletariat.
Second, the proletariat no longer cares."  [J. G. Betancourt, "Johnny Zed"]
From: sas@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (s.a.sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Wizard of Oz
Keywords: toto
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:29:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


tin man?
From: sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Quiz question
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:06:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Does anybody out there know the answers to the following questions, which have
appeared in a newspaper quiz ?

   1. Citizen Kane has come top in the last four Sight and Sound critics' polls
      of the best films ever made. What was its closest runner-up in the last
      three ?

   2. What does Audrey Hepburn call her cat in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" ?

Please E-Mail any answers (and additional information e.g. how sure you are) to
sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk. Thanks very much. Sorry if I've posted this twice.
From: twain@milton.u.washington.edu (Barbara Hlavin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:25:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <3977@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>
>Hi all:
>
>
>Thanks guys for the suggestions on weird movies: the list I've 
>compiled so far is below--please add if you can think of any other.


Delicatessen. 


--Barbara
From: curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov (Curt Wiederhoeft)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Seen Young or Shawn Young?
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:40:22 GMT
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Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co., Houston


 guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:
>	A friend of mine insists that Sean Young (of Blade Runner and
>numerous other movies) pronounces her name `Seen.'  Sounds corny
>to me.  Anyone here know for sure?
> 
I thought that someone would have answered this question in a "straight"
fashion by now, but nobody has, so I'm going to waste hundreds, possibly
thousands of dollars by posting it.

On the recent NBC special, "Dame Edna's Hollywood," Dame Edna (don't know
the actor's name) pasted a tag on Young's shoulder that said "SHORN." This
was supposedly "so I won't try to call you SEEN." I guess it was supposed
to be funny, given Dame Edna's lousy British accent.

Make sense? Thought not. Catch the special in re-runs.

Curt Wiederhoeft
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From: geturner@aer.com. (George Turner)
Subject: Re: Movies you were forced to see
Organization: Atmospheric & Environmental Research, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:16:27 GMT

I refused, at first to sit through "Fried Green Tomatoes" but then I was
reminded that I had taken my wife to "Young Einstein".  "Fried Green
Tomatoes" goes beyond the worst soap opera, beyond the most trite made-
for-tv crud I have ever seen.  To make you feel sad, the best
idea they could come up with was to run people over with trains!  

In a similar trade, I took my wife to see "Terminator II".  I then, had
to sit through "Steel Magnolias".  Geez, it was worst than "Fried Green
Tomatoes".  First, Sally Fields was hopelessly miscast.  I'm sorry, I
can't work up any serious sympathy for Gidget goes to the Deep South.
Again, even though we have powerful women, they still can get hurt.
Sally Fields has to donate body parts to her dying daughter
I kept waiting for the daughter to get run over by a train.
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From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: Re: Hoffa?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:28:00 GMT

nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.230056.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fncll@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>>Despite the intense media barrage and endless previes, I am looking forward to
>>seeing Hoffa but have heard bad things about it already.//// has anyone seen
>>it-- would I be wasting my money?
>>
>>I am a real fan of Nocholson btw...
>>

>Well,Nocholson has finally turned in a Nicholson perfomance in this one.
>It's been awhile. If you don't count his Joker in Batman,he has been a
>Nocholson since...oh,The Shining.(No flames from the fans of Terms Of
>Enearment and Two Jakes,please :-).

>No,you won't be wasting your money. Nicholson's Hoffa compensates for
>all the flaws with the script this movie has. I do agree with Danny
>DeVitto that it's really a Hollywood version with heavy emphasis on
>entertainment and it's not a Shakespeare production filled with precise
>facts and details.

Facts?  Seemed to me more of a conspiracy theory movie like JFK.  Where did
this truck stop in the corn country ending come from?  I never heard that
one before. 

It was a great movie until the ending.  Why present it as if this is how he
died?  Nobody knows what happened to him.  He was last seen at the Red Fox
resturaunt in a Detroit suburb.  Why present this theory on film as if it
was a fact?  At least JFK stated that its theory was merely a theory.

At least there should have been some note at the end of the movie that
said nobody knew what happened to him.

Mark Wyman
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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: Underrated Actor: Alan Rickman
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 08:22:08 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO


wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung) writes:

>|played a good supporting role in January Man, which starred Klein and
>|Mastrotantonio (almost certainly mispelled).

Peter> Her name is Mary Elizabeth Mastroantonio.

Incorrect.  Her last name is spelled MASTRANTONIO.


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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Long films and box office success (was:  Why X _is_ making money)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 21:10:23 GMT

In article <sterbenc-070193101950@150.130.23.185> sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>Dances With Wolves: did well, but certainly not near any records.

Any film that makes significantly over $100 million is a certifiable
blockbuster, and has made a major impact on both its studio's bottom
line and the industry in general.  "Dances With Wolves" made over
$150 million, domestic.  It was a really big hit, especially considering
that it was a relatively inexpensive film.  If you wish to discount its
success because it wasn't one of the top ten grossing films of all
time, fine, but it is simply not true that this wasn't a major hit.
Any argument that long films can't succeed financially cannot be based
on the fact that none of the dozen 3 hour plus films made by Hollywood
in the past decade are on the top ten list.  There are only ten films
on that list at all, and there are a hell of a lot more films that were
major bonanzas for their studios.

>The Right Stuff: most certainly did NOT do well. Did "shockingly"
>poorly, in fact. Tri-Star went bankrupt due to box office "hits"
>like this one.

Tri-Star did not go bankrupt.  They're still in business.  But this
was a major flop, to the surprise of the entire industry.  I don't
think anyone attributes its failure to its length, however.

>Heaven's Gate: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Possibly the greatest flop in
>movie _history_ and you give it as evidence to the contrary?!

UA, on the other hand, did go out of business (bought up by MGM),
largely as a result of the failure of this film.

>Nobody went to see this. Trust me.

I did.  But I believe its total grosses so far are still in the range
of $3 million or thereabouts, so you're not that far wrong.  Length wasn't
the problem with "Heaven's Gate", either.  Overwhelming and almost 
unanimous critical savaging was, and most critics chose aspects other
than its length for the majority of their scorn.


-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Hoffa?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:15:58 GMT
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In article <wyman.726164880@opal8> wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman) writes:

>Facts?  Seemed to me more of a conspiracy theory movie like JFK.  Where did
>this truck stop in the corn country ending come from?  I never heard that
>one before. 
>
>It was a great movie until the ending.  Why present it as if this is how he
>died?  Nobody knows what happened to him.  He was last seen at the Red Fox
>resturaunt in a Detroit suburb.  Why present this theory on film as if it
>was a fact?  At least JFK stated that its theory was merely a theory.
>
>At least there should have been some note at the end of the movie that
>said nobody knew what happened to him.
>

As you noted above, it is a movie, not a documentary, and IMHO, this 
relieves them of the responsibility of having to make any sort of
statement.  I do not recall hearing that the creators of the film
promised a historically accurate account of this man's life.  They 
merely offered a portrayal of their perception of Jimmy Hoffa.  I
have no problem with that -- what do others think?

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu


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From: S_HAIDA@IRAV1.ira.uka.de (Andreas Haida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Francais movies
Date: 9 Jan 1993 16:14:14 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
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In article <BzoCKt.Ion@peora.sdc.ccur.com>, tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran) writes:
>
>Please recommand good French movies that one can get from rental outlets.

I don't know whether these movies are available in the US but I highly
recommend the movies directed by Luc Besson, especially "Le Grand Bleu"
and "La Femme Nikita".
You should also look for movies made by Leos Carax, who e.g. directed
"Boy meets Girls" and "Die Liebenden von Pont Neuf" (unfortunately I don't
know the french nor the english title).
Andreas Haida  

Andreas Haida
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