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From: kevin@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Opinions on breed.
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:03:09 -0600
Organization: Metro State U, Minneapolis MN

In article <168C0CDCC.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>  
> Item #2 is incompatible with #3 and #4.  #3 because a good hunter will
> require lots of excersise - and that means more than just a walk after
> you get home from work.  Staying in an apartment/crate all day will not
> give the dog the excersise it would need (even for small hunting dogs).
> #4 is incompatible simply because I would consider it cruel to keep a
> large dog in an apartment all day (actually, I wouldn't sell ANY breed
> of dog to someone that lived in an apartment).
>  
> .soapbox off
So lets see...my options are none?  If I hunt, live in the city, and can't
afford to buy a house I can't have a hunting dog or in your opinion any dog?

I see.
Is this the opinion of most of you netters?

============================================================================
Kevin Whyte						kevin@msus1.msus.edu
	**Representing and speaking for no one but myself.**
"Still, the best augurs are those who divine from the portents of the past. 
They compile phenomenal records." Croaker "The Black Company" by Glen Cook
From: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Names for male dog starting with 'B' needed
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:38:39 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1.lbl.gov

I guess if you have a litter requirement than you have to follow
guidelines as to what you call your dog.  I am a bit odd, I guess,
and feel that dogs really do have a name we just have to figure
it out.  Did anyone see that Far Side about what we call our dog
and what they call themselves?  Anyway when I name a dog I go
through all kinds of names until I hit on one that the dog
responds to.  I must admit in addition to singing to my dogs, I
also call my older dog by all sorts of names: Bear, Zackaroo,
Roodledo, Tuckabo, Bud, Budface and Pumpkin.  I once called Zack
at the dog park and was corrected by a woman who informed me that
that dog was not named Zack he was named Pumpkin.  Although I am
consistent in what I call my young dog, multiple names doesn't
seem to phase Zack.  He got his name because as I was taking him
home from the pound I went through the alphabet with names.  He
responded to Zackary, I guess he was smart enough to figure out
it was that or nothing.  Sorry for the digression, I hope you
find a good name for your dog.

EUF
eufinlayson@lbl.gov

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From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Opinions on breed.
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.113741.1890@msus1.msus.edu>
kevin@msus1.msus.edu writes:
 
>
>Well it looks like I will finally be able to get a puppy again so before I go
>asearching I figured I would query the net about the appropriate breed for my
>needs.  What I am looking for is a dog that will serve a variety of purposes.
>In order of importance (sorta) they are.
>
>        1.  Good companion (eliminated a lot of breeds there didn't I. ;)
>        2.  Adaptable to both life with a yard and life in an apartment.
>            ( I have crate trained a dog before and am comfortable with it)
>        3.  A good hunter of upland game. (Pheasant, Grouse)
>        4.  Between 65lbs and 100 lbs.
>        5.  Preferabley short haired or not prone to shedding a ton.
>(And after seeing a couple of recent posts I must add point #6)
>
>        6. Must be capable of respecting my privacy and not logging in as
>           me to post to this news-group!
>
>I am not limiting myself to pure-breds here.  Though I may go that route if the
>local humane shelter doesn't have close to what I want.  Is there such an
>animal?
>
>(Let me clarify point #2 above.  They would live in the house but have a fenced
>yard to run free in.  BTW this is not a Xmas pup. I'll be ready for it the
>beginning of January.)
>
>============================================================================
>Kevin Whyte                                             kevin@msus1.msus.edu
>        **Representing and speaking for no one but myself.**
 
Kevin,
Sounds like a German Shorthaired Pointer to me.  As to typing on
the computer--mine keeps looking at me with her imploring eyes
which say, Mom, when are you going to quit mashing on those little
keys and pay attention to me.
Judith
 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re: Doggie hair out of fabric/upholstery?
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:52:49 GMT

In article <9212121655.AA2150@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
=   This is my single beef with the Golden Retriever.  A fine loving
= dog, but wow! that hair.  It seems to work it's way into everything,
= and is difficult to get up, outside of plucking it out of carpeting
= and upholostry hair by hair.

All this talk about dog hair reminds me of a problem I had a year
or so ago.  One day I noticed that my refrigerator wasn't staying
as cold as I thought it should.  At first I thought that I was
going to have to shell out for a new one but got to checking and
found that the back (where the heat goes when it's removed from the
inside) was *full* of Brittany hair.  The sucker was clearly
designed by someone who doesn't have a shedding dog for it was a
real job to get it out of the tiny slot through which it was
accessible but, partly with the help of the crevice tool and vacuum
cleaner, I managed to get most of it and my good got cold again.

So, the instruction manual for all furry critters should include a
reminder to clean out the back of the refrigerator every once in a
while.  Probably should be routinely done on a regular schedule.

Well, just one more place for you to clean up hair in case you
hadn't thought of it....


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Opinions on dog sleeping arrangements
From: shoran@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:10:24 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Dec11.223406.19568@newshost.lanl.gov>, srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee) writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.160651.11075@news.nd.edu> mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening) writes:
>>
  [Some stuff about the Monks of New Skete deleted]

>>  They tell of horror
>>stories of dogs tearing apart the bed if allowed to be on the bed ever.
> 
> I remember reading this too.  It seems a little silly to me.  A dog that
> tears up a bed will not do it, in my opinion, just because he is allowed
> to sleep there.

I'm in full agreement with this. In 20+ years of having dogs dogs sleep in my
bedroom, on and off the bed, I've never had one do any damage to the bed.

 
>  I want an English Mastiff as my next dog (no time soon
>>unfortunately) and I don't think I will let him/her sleep on the bed :-).
> 
> Oh, don't be so sure.  My Malamute sleeps with me on occasion. :-)

>>Mike

Over the years we've had Pulis and an Old English Sheepdog on the bed, though
only one dog at a time.  On cold nights, with a hubby one side and an OES 
the other, it was wonderfully COZY!!

Soemone also posted warnings about jealousy from the bed-sleeping-dog and
whoever else was sleeping with you.  Never had a problem with this.  Without
going into details, whichever canine was sleeping on the bed rarely even seemed
to wake up, no matter what I and hubby were getting up to!  They just snoozed
on through it......

Stef
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Leaving a puppy alone - bad idea?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:05:49 -0600
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

I've decided to put off getting a dog because I now live
alone and have no other animals in the area and I just
don't know how a puppy would fare when left alone for
8 to 10 hours a day.  In the past, my puppys were never
alone for more than a few hours at a time.

I can provide an otherwise good environment for the pup;
food, fresh (running) water, shelter, a large fenced in
area (my home is a retired farm) and so forth but is 
this enough?

How about getting _two_ pups?  Would they be company
enough for each other while I am gone?
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From: richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Dog searching and eating food off the counter when nobody at home
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:17:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.002027.19183@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM>, lingz@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ling.Zhao) writes:
> My 2.5 year old golden retriever would search and eat food off counter top
> when no one is home.  We can not catch him in the "act" because he never
> does it when somebody is home.  One time he even turn on the gas in the

One thing I have heard of is to leave a cracker spread with some butter
and a liberal application of HOT chilli powder.  Doesn't work on all
breeds.  Chinooks actually like them.
-- 
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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: excited by car travel
Date: 13 Dec 1992 05:37:35 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
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David Watson (dwatson1@metz.une.edu.au) wrote: 

: AS someone who is well aware of Aussie road conditions, for you Northerners
: think of NYC, the potholes in Feb/March and you have the majority of Aust.
: roads, I think I have found the cure.

: We go to dog shows 1-2 times amonth with dogs slobbering and puking. The
: one thing that seems to have cured them is to put a static cable (actually
: 2 of them) on the back of the car. The static electricity is released and
: no more nausea. The kids even stopped puking! you can get thema the auto
: parts store. Fair Dinkum.

: David Watson
: Yascott Kennels		Breeding Better Brindles - Scottish Terriers!
: Armidale, NSW
: Australia

Gaia gets carsick if she can see out the window.  The less she can see,
the better off she is.  Cross-country in a van was fine, but down the 
street looking out the window? Not a chance.  

Karen
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Purina Dog Food Opini
Date: 10 Dec 92 18:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 12-09-92, S. MUDGETT AKA LITTLE GAT wrote to ALL:

when i switched to hills, and when i switched back to pedigree, there was no
difference at all in the amount i needed to feed.  the ads say otherwise, but
that was my experience.  no change in dogs' wieght, stool volume, or anything
else either.

We've been using MannaPro Professional (used to be Carnation Professional)
because of the reduction in output.  If we could find a food which only
generated puffs of smoke we would use that :-)...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Name the Puppy Contest...
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:31:43 GMT


Well, why don't you go for a buddy of Dante's?

There's Petrarch and Boccaccio (I wanted to name
Siegfried Boccaccio, but Peter wouldn't go for it).

OR you could go for the INferno, Divine Comedy 
theme...and take one of Dante's travel guides, 
namely Virgil. For a registered name you could call
him Virgilius Romanus! :) Virgil was Dante's guide
through Hell. He might have had a beard, who knows!
This was another one of the names I wanted for
Siegfried. 

I see you seem to like the Medieval/Renaissance 
folks...well, my major was Medieval Civ and I studied
A LOT of Dante, Petrarch and esp Boccaccio (try
the Decameron...sounds like something right out
of modern day America, some of the stories they tell-
no joke!), so if you need more suggestions, give me a holler.

For Siegfried we went back to the old Germanic saga, the
Nibelungenleid and the hero (who DIES before the end of 
the story) was called Herr Baron Sivrit von Xanten,
as he was to become Baron over Xanten and the Middle
German version of Siegfried was Sivrit...so that's what
Siegfried is registered under..

You could always go outinto the Arthurian legends with
Tristan, Lancelot, Percival, etc...

kay Schlumpf  & Crew
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Xmas Puppies (again) :-(
Date: 13 Dec 1992 09:22:49 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu wrote: : You'll never believe what *I* saw in
the paper... 

: a local dog club had put a classified in the local paper in the PEts
: classified section that said

: A DOG ISN'T JUST FOR CHRISTMAS!

: signed Local Club...

: I was happy to see that...made my heart glad, now if it gets
: through some folks heads, that's different, but someone is
: TRYING...

: Makes me sick too...I saw tons of the "will hold for Christmas"
: ads...:(

: Kay & Crew
:  

Not all people with young pets at Christmas time are bad.  Last year
I had Christmas kittens,  because I won't place a kitten until they are
at least 12 weeks old.  My kittens went with a crate (which they were
used to) regular kitten instructions, food for 2 weeks. litter. litter
box, scoop, bowls and special Christmas ans your new kitten instructions.
Oh yes, an unconditional guarantee that I would take them back for any reason.
They either had to go at least 1 week before or wait until after the holiday.

I cringe too when I see the ads, but with most of them, I cringe year round.

Karen

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From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Nutro Max -- Good or Bad?
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:55:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.164603.16880@b30.ingr.com>
scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com (G. Scott Downey) writes:
 
>
>I've recently switched dog foods to Nutro-Max and have been
>feeding the amounts specified on the bag.  Prior to my switch,
>my vet had told me that the dogs were the perfect size -- not
>too fat or thin.  Now that I've switched, the boys eat more
>eagerly, but are dropping weight.  Should I increase the
>amount that I feed?  Should I trash this Nutro Max stuff and
>go back to my old brand?
>
>All advice solicited.
>
>                        G. Scott Downey
>                        Moses' Daddy (RottMonster)
>                        Job's Daddy Too (Lab)
>
>P.S.  If it makes any difference, it's the lamb/rice
>      formula of Nutro Max.  Thanks.  G.S.D.
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Your little drawing is great so I'll keep it here so we can see it
again.  To answer your question--increase the amount you are feeding.
The amounts on the bag are just approximations and may not feed a
**real** dog.  I may have mentioned before that my same size same
sex shorthairs eat varying amounts ranging from 2 cups to 10 cups
per day.  In fact, the one that eats two cups is too fat and the one
that eats 10 plus cups is too thin.  Depends on metabolic rates and
activity levels of the individual.  The fat one, Cheska, is also the
youngest.
Judith
From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Eagle Dog Food
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:15:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, miller@sctc.com (Steven M. Miller) says:

>dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski) writes:
>
>>I look for a food without ethoxyquin, as I've had problems in the past with
>>itching and lousy coat.  I've been told that it is safe, but since the
>>only common denominator in the foods which I was feeding at those times
>>was ethoxiquin, I'll pass.
>
>Virtually every dry dog food has ethoxyquin, even if it is NOT LISTED 
>ON THE LABEL.   This is because if the fat in the food was bought
>with ethoxyqin already in it then the company is not required to 
>list it on the label!!!!!!!! 

VERY TRUE, in MOST cases.  Eagle has their own rendering plant and does
not buy fat from other sources.  I know that their Natural Pack does not 
contain ethoxyquin.


>
>Ethoxyquin is a very safe preservative and is also used to preserve
>foods eaten by humans.   All the talk about ethoxyquin being a problem
>is basically just an urban legend that has spread like wildfire through
>the dog world.   
>
I have not seen satisfactory scientific evidence to prove that the chemical
is a problem for dogs.  I seem to have heard that Cornell did a study 
that indicated there were no problems.


>Most likely your dog's itching and coat problems were caused by something
>else in the food he was on or something the food was lacking.
>
>All of this is based on information from one of the top vets in the
>Minneapolis area (Fran Smith).
>

I am sure that Fran is a wonderful vet if you speak so highly of Him/her.
My vets are wonderful and I am sure that all of us have great vets.  I am 
even certain that Jeff is going to become a great vet.  BUT, I have met
too many vets who wouldn't know which end of a dog to feed let alone
enough to recommend one food over another.  Be wise and be a good consumer.
Check things out for yourself!


>Cheers,
>
>_Steve
>
>
>
> 
>-- 
>Steven Miller
>miller@sctc.com
>``He's dead Jim!  You grab his tricoder.  I'll grab his wallet.''
>

Happy Scoopin"

Gail and the pooches -- Toby and Casey
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Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:00:03 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Akita
Comment-To: Joe_Wu@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/703 701
X-FSC-PID:  RA 0.04

  You know, Joe, the Akita was bred to be a guarding dog.  It is the
nature of the breed to be territorial.  I think this is a difficult
dog to have as a first dog.  Males tend to be more agressive than
females anyway.  How old is the dog now?  You may need to plan to
neuter the dog.  This will reduce his agressiveness toward other dogs.
 See about getting him signed up for obedience classes.  Basic
obedience will only do him good.  It will give him a chance to get
socialized and teach him what is expected of him as your dog.  He will
be happier for it.
--- FMail 0.92
 * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (michelson,steven)
Subject: Re: More on the neurotic Dachshund.
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:24:36 GMT

In article <18406@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>Right after posting the last message, I got a call from Max's owner with more
>info. The dog had bitten his 10 year old daughter on the hand, 3 times in a
>matter of a few minutes. She was on the couch with the dog and tried to get
>up. He bit, she hit and started to get up again. He bit, she clobbered him
>and he yelped and went running to his basket. She walked past the basket and
>he jumped out, jumped up and bit her again!
>
>PLEASE, does anybody have any advice before this dog is put down?

He sounds like a fear biter, who wasn't socialized well as a puppy. It's really
sad, I think, but I don't know at this point how the behavior can be stopped.

:-(



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (michelson,steven)
Subject: Re: Help for a Troubled Dog
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:33:23 GMT

In article <9212121057.AA2148@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>
>  As a teen, I accepted a Doxie from from some neighbors who claimed
>to be allergic.  This Doxie was a cute dog, but Boy! did she have a
>temper.  A few different things would set her off, and when she was
>mad, she appeared to be possessed by the devil.
>  Another time, at a local pet shop that sold dogs, they had a Doxie
>pup with a similar mean streak.  When that pup got angry, it was
>scary.

Dachshunds used to be very popular dogs, I think, which I'd bet led to
a lot of indiscriminant, backyard breedings for money. This probably
resulted in many bad-tempered animals, unfortunately.

I have a Dachshund who I got from a well-respected breeder, and she's
extremely sweet-tempered. She's pretty submissive, but she has enough
confidence not to be a fear biter or a submissive urinator. I've heard
other stories about this breed along the lines of what you're
saying, but I'm incredibly happy with my own dog. I think you just have
to be careful to find a good breeder, with well-tempered parents, if
you're considering adopting a Dachshund. The best of them are terrific
dogs. The worst of them can be pretty nasty.


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Snow Dogs
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:00:36 GMT

Hi, Siegfried!  My name's Ichiban, and I'm a 3-year old golden
Akita.  I live in the San Francisco area, so we don't get any
snow, but recently my step-brother Angus (who's a big dumb 
2-year old Husky/Shepherd mix) and I had a *lot* of fun making
"mud dogs" in the rain!!!

I even found that the fun doesn't stop with making the mud dog...
I can make my imprint in the mud, then go inside on the white kitchen
floor (when my Alpha dog Robert isn't looking) and lay down, thus
making a neat-o doggie outline on for posterity!!!

If you come up with any other neat ideas we winter dogs can use
in California, let me know.

OBTW, Angus wants me to ask that lady who has the dog cookie recipe
to please re-post it or email it to Robert.  Thanks.  I'd bring you
a tennis ball if I knew where you were.

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================