HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sichase@csa3.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Neat ResEdit 2.1.1 'Feature'
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:11:24 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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In article <1992Jul29.135547.4216@midway.uchicago.edu>, ejw1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Eric Weidl) writes...
>	While working with ResEdit the other day, my klutzy fingers discovered 
>an neat feature.  To see it, select the Open... item from the File menu.  Then 
>select a file in the standard file dialog.  Now, hold down the option key
>while clicking the Open button.
> 
>        ResEdit will open a window displaying the status of its check of the
>file's resource fork.  Yet another undocumented feature in a Apple product.

This *is* documented (and very useful!).  It is way in the back of the 
Resedit manual published by Addison Wesley, in a section on useful advanced
hints.

-Scott
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SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		that if I should come to life after my death
				and some mathematician were to tell me that it
				had been definitely settled, I think I would
				immediately drop dead again."      - Vandiver
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: trouble with ftp.apple.com?
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Greg Talmo)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:53:03 -0600
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <36215@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, hopper@cs.ucsd.edu (Steven L. Hopper) writes:
> 
> UC525655@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Mark Eaton) writes:
> 
> >Anybody have trouble FTPing to ftp.apple.com lately? Ive tried for two
> >days without success... (i get a timeout error, host did not respond)...
> > 
> 
> I've been noticing this on sumex and mac.archive, but ftp.apple connects
> just fine.  I use Xferit which recently is timing out or gets the "call
> back later" response, but gopher gets through because of its socket
> oriented protocol.  However, the ftp transfers are definately slower
> than Xferit.  BTW, when I can't get through to the FTP sites with my mac,
> I can always get through with my Sun...
> 
  I think that I can tell you what the problem is.  If you don't have a direct
ethernet connection to the mainframe in your office, and end up running through
MacTCP then the problem lies in the fact that you probably don't have a fixed
IP addresse for your name.  What Apple does in ftp.apple.com is to check your
email address (that you give them for a passwaord) against the Internet nameserver.
The upshot of this is that if you do not have an assigned IP addresse for your
Mac, and let MacTCP do it dynamicaly (sp?) you will not be able to get on, I've tried.
However, if your talk to your system aministrator and have then assign you an IP 
address (that you then enter in MacTCP), and then hook your email addresse to that
on the local nameserver you should be able to get on with no problem.
  This explains why he (above) can get on with his Sun, and not his Mac (I think)


  I hoped this helped, and was no wildly innaccurate!

  - Greg Talmo (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,alt.config
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:38:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.200828.10799@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:

>Oh, and don't wait til it gets released, the reader community involves
>not only the curious (or the not-so-curious), but developers also.  And
>this is as good a forum as any for developer-curious discussion.

An excellent reason to prepare a mailing list for Newton users and
developers.  If, after the product release, the mailing list volume is
high and the discussion diverse, by all means, RFD comp.sys.newton.
But now, I think it would be a waste of time.  (Or if you wish, go
ahead and RFD it now on news.groups.  But it sounds premature.)

Besides, if you newgroup alt.apple.newton, it's only a matter of time
before some wiseacre newgroups alt.fig.newton, which will benefit NO
ONE.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You mean there are TWO of you, Pierce?
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  God help us all."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Major Charles Emerson Winchester III
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Is DEC history???
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:32:52 GMT



In article <67830008@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> Ray Terry,
rterry@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com writes:
>> What's really exciting is DEC's new Alpha chip...
>
>Now if they can just get it to market (on schedule)...
>
>Ray

So far, so good!

--- Gavin
Gone Fission.          Visualize Whirled Peas!
From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: What's the umich temp FTP address?
Date: 27 Jul 1992 07:02:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu

In article <schweda.712203502@vincent1.iastate.edu> schweda@iastate.edu (Christopher Schweda) writes:
>
>
>
>What's the temporary umich FTP IP number?

shavenyak.css.itd.umich.edu

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From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: TidBITS#134/20-Jul-92 posted in c.s.m.digest
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:39:25 PDT
Organization: TidBITS
Reply-To: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3

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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:25:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.181412.29337@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon) writes:

> > Have you ever tried holding option and command keys down when 
> > rebooting ???? During the startup the Mac asks if you want to
> > rebuild the desktop. I don't think it takes too long. I just
> > timed it. Rebuild took excactly 3 minutes 14 seconds. I have a
> > 422 MB hard disk and I think on a 75 MB HD it must take much 
> > shorter time.
> 
> We digress from the subject, but I had assumed that an extension called
> Desktop Reset(tm) which was installed on my IIsi was the source of the
> desktop rebuilding capability.  I have tried the key combination on
> another mac and found it to be inherent in system 7 - learn something new
> everyday.

It has been inherent in the Mac since day one.  It is not system-7 specific.

> It took me a few minutes to rebuild when I had only 20MB of stuff, but now
> that I have 75MB of 1800+ files on it, it takes about six minutes to do
> solely the desktop rebuilding, but I only rebuild the desktop when I
> have a problem (i.e. icons not working properly, extensions not working
> properly, virus detected, etc.).  As a result the total time spent
> tracking down a problem, which may include reinstalling the system and/or
> rebuilding the desktop, would take me at least half a day.

Icons not working is the only legitimate reason of the ones you mentioned
to do it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:41:19 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <92205.170150ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:

>We have a simulation program here at work that typically runs for about 2h
>for one simulation on a 33MHz 486. I don`t want to try it on a IIsi.

I have a program that runs faster on my Mac IIsi than it does on a
Convex supercomputer.  Of course, it's been optimized for the Mac
and hasn't been optimized for the Convex.  But it proves my point
anyway: The PC is faster than the Mac, which is faster than the
Convex, right? :-)

Of course, you're comparing a top-of-the-line PC (33MHz 386) 
against the bottom-of-the-line Mac II.  Fair comparison!  Since
the 68040-based Quadra can be up to ten times faster than the
68030-based Macs for floating-point operations, it could quite
likely blow the drive doors off your 486.  Why don't you pick
on a machine your own size? 


>>If, tommorrow, I dropped on your desk an infinitely fast DOS machine, you'd
>>perhaps be 5% more productive with it. If that.

>There are other simulation runs that would take about 2 years to complete.
>If youve have that infinitely fast DOS machine we wouldn`t need our CRAY.

Why do you need a Cray?  The PC is much faster.  If you like, 
I'll write a program to prove it. :-)


>>Granted. But then, there really aren't any OS/2 applications that use
>>that consistant OS/2 support, are there?

>Say "that much" instead of "any" and I agree. But this _is_ changing.

Yep.  I imagine it'll change a *lot* when IBM abandons OS/2 for Taligent. :-)


>Yes it`s fine! My boss has to pay me at work. So for him the Mac 
>is the better deal. At home nobody pays me but I have to pay the 
>computer. So for me the 386 is the better deal. Were is the problem?

So the fact that aren't being paid means your personal time is
worthless?  Interesting perspective.  Is that why Germans get
four week vacations -- so that they have time to play with their
CONFIG.SYS? :-)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon)
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Organization: NASA GSFC Code 534.3
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:26:29 GMT

Reading the 7/27/92 issue of MacWeek, p.46, it seems Apple agrees
that macintoshes are overpriced compared to other personal computers:

   "[Apple executives] made it clear to [analysts] that they will
   aggressively price their products soon," said John Girton, vice
   president of research for Van Kasper & Co. in San Francisco.

Of course, this could mean only a small discount is coming, but Apple is
feeling the pinch of the much cheaper PC clones.

Sang J. Moon
From: espen@leo.unm.edu (Peter Espen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Educational Price for a IIcx to IIci upgrade?
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:30:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	Can some kind soul e-mail me the current price for an
official

	1. IIcx to IIci upgrade

	2. IIcx to Quadra upgrade

	3. Are the prices scheduled to fall in the near future?


	Thanks!

	Peter Espen
	espen@leo.unm.edu
From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIsi startup problem
Date: 23 Jul 1992 21:51:55 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu


Maybe you have a hardware problem.  Have you checked the cables
& terminator on the internal drive?  If you have access to test
equipment, or a technician friend, you might also want to check
the board, to see if signals fr. the CPU are reaching the drive
& vice versa.

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sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu | Though it cost you all you have, get understanding.
                       |                                -- Proverbs 4:7 (NIV)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Mike Brudenell <pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: The Namer!?
Organization: The Computing Service, University of York, UK
     <1992Jul20.205459.24063@news2.cis.umn.edu>
     <1992Jul20.220804.24899@news2.cis.umn.edu>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:03:14 GMT
X-Posted-From: pippin.york.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Just to try and clarify things a little.

In System 6 days there was The Namer and Font Downloader (perhaps later
called the LaserWriter Font Utility too?).

In System 7 days there is the LaserWriter Font Utility that comes with
System 7 (tucked away on the Tidbits disk I believe -- it is certainly
not installed on your hard disk as part of the standard install
procedure).  This lets you manipulate fonts, printers' disks, startup
pages, etc..

There is a SEPARATE program called the LaserWriter Utility which includes
all (I believe) the functionality of the LaserWriter Font Utility and
more besides.  It is this that also includes the "Name printer" stuff.

The LaserWriter Utility is available on ftp.apple.com (if you search for
it).  Another poster supplied the path of:
/dts/mac/sys.soft/imaging/laserwriter-utility.hqx

Mike B-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: urban@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Art Urban (PROFS))
Subject: Underground Phont Archive List
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:32:04 GMT

Okay...so I download the font-preview.hqx from sumex, what now? I've found a
very small handful of the fonts shown *at* sumex, but where are the others?

The files would have been *even* more useful had they referrenced a location
for ftp. Directions would be appreciated, thanx!

--
Art Urban 					       urban@stout.atd.ucar.edu
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 "What's Next? Chasing bunnies on a motorbike until their hearts explode? -Crow
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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Date: 22 Jul 1992 15:26:27 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <cline.711794712@ebony.cs.scarolina.edu> cline@cs.scarolina.edu
(Ernest Cline) writes:
>There has been a lot of discussion of late about Newton the pen based PDA
>that Apple will be introducing soon. Yet since this is not a Macintosh, and
>will not be using the MacOS it really doesn't seem to belong in
>comp.sys.mac.misc. Therefore, I propose the group alt.apple.newton an
>unmoderated group for the discussion of this device. Comments will be
>appreciated.

Even though it's not a "computer", I'd lobby for making it a comp.* group - we
don't get too many alt.* groups here.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dmmg1176@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David M Marcovitz)
Subject: Re: IIsi startup problem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:48:29 GMT

I got Desktop Reset, and that did not help.  I rebuilt the desktop
with it yesterday.  My machine just crashed (I don't know why).  When
I restarted, I had the flashing cursor problem again.

-- 
David M. Marcovitz                     |  internet: marcovitz@uiuc.edu
Computer-based Education Research Lab  |            dmmg1176@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois                 |  novanet:  marco / cca / nova
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jason@cray.com (Jason Parker)
Subject: SIMMs for Apple NTR Laser Printer
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:23:04 CDT

Anybody know who sells SIMMs for Apple's NTR Personal Laser Printer?
What I know is that it needs to be a 72 pin SIMM addressable at 32 bits.

Send replies to:  jason@cray.com

PS My Apple dealer doesn't seem to know... uhg.

Thanks,
Jason
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:13588 comp.sys.mac.games:7518 alt.sex:24810
From: kendall@castor.cs.uga.edu (ROB KENDALL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Strip-Mac! 1.3 available for FTP
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:26:25 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Anyone out there have any cool party games like this for the PC??

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:13602 comp.sys.mac.games:7525 alt.sex:24828
From: kendall@castor.cs.uga.edu (ROB KENDALL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,alt.sex
Subject: WANTED:  Sexy games to play on my PC
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:18:19 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens



Anybody got any strip/sex/fun games for adventuresome adults ( PC ) ??

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kendall@castor.cs.uga.edu      |  Life is like a big shit sandwich; 
There is nothing more for me.  |  the more bread you have, the less
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: FTP site for Clip Art? 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 04:25:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: FTP
Keywords: Clip Art FTPO

My sister's looking for some clip art stuff -- where's a good site to 
FTP clip art from?

- Scott

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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: a non-techie view of Newton
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:04:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.032426.14544@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho) writes:

> Unless Apple's Newton is many times smarter than it's human namesake,
> (and even then) I remain skeptical about your implication above
> that Newton can decipher anything. FOr example, "Joe for lunch"
> could easily look like "Jac tar lunch", with God knows what
> implications for the situation. A written e that isn't fully 
> closed looks very much like a stylized c. What I envision is that
> people will write slower than they would on a notepad, wait
> a few moments to verify that Newton had got it right, then go on
> to the next thing. I can also see some people getting frustrated
> as at some crucial point Newton helpfully translates into gibberish
> some technical stuff, which must then be hastily corrected. Don't
> get me wrong, I think it's a cool machine, but I think people
> shouldn't expect miracles out of it. I don't think it's very useful
> for quick notes that you won't keep because during notetaking
> you won't save any time; however, it will save scads
> of time on any info that has to be shared, filed away, etc.
> I only skimmed the articles on Newton, but will it only recognize
> a standard circle, square, triangle, etc? I guess you have to
> put in that limitation, but that means that specialized shapes
> are a wash, then.

Newton can learn from its mistakes in recognizing handwriting (although
the initial offering apparently will recognize only block printing
(which is OK for me, because that's what I do anyway; I rarely use cursive
script--no one would be able to read it.).  In addition to those shapes,
it will also recognize polygons and arcs.  furher, you have the option of
letting it accept the shape as drawn instead of regularizing the shape.

At least, that is what the press releases about Newton have said.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bear@netcom.Netcom.COM (Blair M. Burtan)
Subject: Electric Image in the movies
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 04:20:00 GMT
Organization: Mattel Toys, Inc.
Reply-To: bear@netcom.com (Blair M. Burtan)
Distribution: comp

The IMHO far too expensive but definitely really cool animation system
Electric Image was used by the folks at Industrial Light & Magic for
a spot in Terminator 2.  The nuclear explosion scene was rendered with
EI.  According to ILM, Electrric Image renders faster that Alias on
a Silicon Graphics workstation.
  And now for EI's next trick: The forth coming film based on Jurassic Park
is employing Electric Image to render the dinosaurs and other elements.
Wanna jump on the band wagon? Be prepared to shell out a cool $7495 for
the software.  Sigh.  But once you play with this thing, you're hooked.
-- 
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+ Blair M. Burtan:  bear@netcom.com bear@csa.bu.edu bear@bu-pub.bu.edu +
+ My opinions don't necessarily reflect those of Mattel Toys, so there +
+ "If it's not baroque, don't fix it."  - Beauty and The Beast         +
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From: rolf@geoserv (Rolf Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:32:13 GMT
Reply-To: rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

>In article <1992Jul18.194414.10494@mmm.serc.3m.com>, usdta004@mmm.serc.3m.com (Timothy S. Shea) writes:
>> 
>> From article <14761@claris.com>, by mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner):

>> > The reason that Apple is doing well is that it has a superior product.
>> > Why do you think that everyone is trying to copy Apple?  OS/2 and
>> > Windows would not have come into existence if the Macintosh had been
>> > an unworkable system.  If the Mac were as terrible as you say it is,
>> > Apple would have gone out of business, or would have become just another
>> > clone company years ago.
>> >
>> 
>> I disagree with this statement.  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs had the same
>> ideas about GUIs.  Apple hired away a good deal of the Xerox PARC
>> developers...  Good old Bill Gates hired the rest away.  Windows and the
>> Mac were under developement at the same time.  Mr. Gates only cared
>> about the Mac because he sunk a good deal of money into developing
>> applications for it...meanwhile he was developing Windows for the Intel
>> machines...  A number of other companies also had GUI's under
>> development for Intel machines...                       

>Windows and the Mac were under development at the same time?  Why then did
>the Mac come out in 1984, and windows not come out until quite a number of
>years later--and a halfway decent version of Windows didn't come out until
>1990 or 91--six years after the Mac OS first came out.  And Windows, in a
>number of ways, still hasn't caught up to the interface of the original
>Mac OS.

  Windows 1.0 was announced somewhere around 1983 - I remember seeing it
in Infoworld. I think it took most of 2 years before it was actually
sold. For a while it was a running industry joke, and was one of the
first products to be tagged "vaporware". But yes, it actually dates
back that far.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc