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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:32:19 CDT
From:         Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      October Hunt Results, Pt. 1 of 2

From: lb05gate@UCSBUXA.BITNET (Rick Gates)
Subject: October Hunt Results, Part 1 of 2

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*          RESULTS OF THE OCTOBER 92 INTERNET HUNT            *
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*  (warning: long message, feel free to pound the delete key) *
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Here it is, at long last, the results of the second monthly Hunt.
(Turnaround time would have been much faster, but I've been out
conferencing myself to death.)

And the winner is...

                Peter Scott
                Manager of Small Systems
                Univ. of Saskatchewan Libraries

...who scored a perfect 46 points in an entry dated
Oct 1, 4:43 CST.  Congratulations Peter!

HUNT STATISTICS
---------------

We had a few more players this time around.  Now we're up to
19 entries, and about 50 - 60 assorted comments.

POINTS OF INTEREST
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It was clear that many people have latched on to Scott Yanoff's
burgeoning list of sources.  This can be accessed in several ways.
Finger yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu for some of them.  A couple of good
gopher sites (other than Mom gopher in Minnesota, of course), are the
MSEN gopher maintained by Ed Vielmetti; and the Univ. of South
Carolina, Dept. of Math gopher maintained by Brygg Ullmer.  Both good
starting points for information.  Finally, you can also get a lot of
information on the HyTelnet system at the University of Saskatchewan,
(telnet access.usask.ca), maintained by this months winner!

There are loads of other good services, but these are all I have
room for this month.

We got the first answer that used a Panda.  Panda is an information
service out of the University of Iowa that's based on gopher. See
question number 10.

The question on where to find land use maps (# 6), was not as
difficult as I had expected.  I was interested in the Global Land
Information System which was tough to find, and completely overlooked
the USGS Earth Science Data Service which answers the question.

The question on where an Argentine user could telnet to get gopher
access turned out to be a little tougher than expected.  Those who
found a telnettable (?) gopher server in South America got full
credit (based on a strict interpretation of the question).

The answers were much better this time around.  Almost everyone
remembered that an address alone is not much help if the data is
buried deep inside some arcane directory structure.  Good job by
all.

I had fun (and so did others), with the extra credit question.
I'll try to scrape something up for November as well.

THE USUAL
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If any players would like to see their individual scores, please
feel free to drop me a line.

I'm totally open to suggestions.  Some suggestions have already been
incorporated, others are still being debated.

I will not post any answer that utilizes an access method that is
licensed to a particular subset of Net users.  Anyone who has cruised
the Net at any length has discovered licensed resources that are
accessible to anyone.  I will not expose those resources to further
unlicensed access.  For example, you will not see any mention of
access to dictionaries, as I am currently unaware of any in the public
domain.

Thanks to all who contributed comments, and special thanks to the
players!  Thanks to you, we're learning more every month.

THE HUNT RESULTS
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1. (1) Where can I get a copy of the shareware package pkzip?

The Winner's Answer
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ftp oak.oakland.edu
cd pub/msdos/zip
pkz110eu.exe

Other Answers
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(Rick: There were many answers to this question.  One of the
primary methods used for finding sites to ftp the files was by
searching archie, as explained here:)

        Telnet to archie.rutgers.edu (128.6.18.15)
                Login: archie
                prog PKZIP (search for PKZIP)

                For a specific site,

(...or here)

        USC-Math Gopher service
        Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu
        Computer Info/FTP site data and indices/FTP searches(UMN)/
        Search FTP Sites (Archie)/Substring search
        search for "pkzip"


2. (5) What's the elevation of Baldwinville, Massachusetts?

The Winner's Answer
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Telnet to 141.212.99.9 3000
Type Baldwinville to receive:

0 Baldwinville
1 25027 Worcester
2 MA Massachusetts
3 US United States
F 45 Populated place
L 42 36 30 N  72 04 35 W
P 1703
E 867
Z 01436

Answer = 867

Other Answers
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(Rick: Best answer!  A client at Minnesota. Thanks to Dennis Boone)
Gopher to University of Minnesota.
Select Libraries.
Select Reference Works.
Select U.S. Geographic Names Database.
Select Search... and enter the name of the city.


3. (4) Where can I find copies of the newly released Soviet archives?

The Winner's Answer
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ftp ftp.dra.com
cd pub/loc
get README for list of archives

Other Answers
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Anonymous FTP to seq1.loc.gov
subdirectories pub/soviet.archive/text.english
get README file in /soviet.archive/ for description of each file

Anonymous FTP to sunsite.unc.edu
subdirectories pub/docs/russia/english.txt
get README file in /russia/ for description of each file

USC-Math Gopher service.
Gopher at bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu
Multitopic Info/Misc/Soviet Archives


4. (7) I'm spending a semester in Europe next year.  My math professor
tells me that there's a network over there that mathematicians use
called Euromath.  I'd really like to find any information I can,
particularly the cost, if any.

(Rick: Getting to a gopher in Sweden or Denmark provided the best
answers.)

The Winner's Answer
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telnet consultant.micro.umn.edu
select Other gophers
select Europe
select Swedish University Network
select Denmark
select Euromath gopher server
select Euromath
The subscription rate for 1992-1993 is 1500 ECU if your
subscription reaches EMT by December 31, 1992. The rate for 1993
will be 2000 ECU. These rates apply only to mathematical
institutes.

Subscription to later EUROMATH upgrades (>= 1994) will be in the
order of 500 ECU.

Other Answers
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COSINE: the COSINE Network's Central
Information Service for Europe
Telnet to concise.funet.fi
login: concise


5. (3) Where can I get copies of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's
newsletter, the EFFector Online?

The Winner's Answer
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Telnet gopher.unt.edu
select Newsletters and journals
select Computing
select EFF
select Effector
Then select the issue you wish to read or have mailed to you

Other Answers
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copies of EFFector Online are also available on Usenet list
comp.org.eff.news

Anonymous ftp to kragar.eff.org
The issues of effector online are in directory
/pub/EFF/newsletters
Filename format is effector<vol>.<issue>

anonymous ftp to wuarchive.wustl.edu
cd /doc/policy/EFF
the files are listed as:
effector*.** for effector (the on-line stuff)
effnews*.** is for newsletter.

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