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From: Raju.Daryanani@p309.f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Raju Daryanani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: email at home in HongKong.
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:23:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In a msg on <Dec 10 21:11>, Aseem Ajit Rangnekar of 6:700/1.300 writes:

 AAR> From: kapildev@leland.Stanford.EDU (Aseem Ajit Rangnekar)
 AAR> Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

 AAR> I am a student at Stanford and would like to able to talk to my 
 AAR> parents at home in HongKong on email.

Quoting from the SCHK faq:
309)     What other network connections are there in HK?

    You can access Compuserve by calling 824-1121 (INFONET). They
use ASYNC 0-2400 Baud (V22BIS/MNP) setting.  No info about the rates.
For more information, please contact:

        Mr. Y.S. Wu
        Public Services Account Manager
        Cable and Wireless HK Ltd
        New Mercury House
        PO Box 597
        22 Fenwich St
        Wanchai

    Also, Hutchison-AT&T provides e-mail service.  For more info,
please contact:

        Helena White
        Hutchison-AT&T
        Network Services Ltd.
        4/F, China Underwriters Centre
        88 Gloucester Road
        Hong Kong
        8345848

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310)    Can I send mail to HK through Fidonet?

    Theologically users can send e-mails to Internet via any FidoNet
BBS in HongKong, however, not all SysOps made this area available to their
users and only a few systems has direct connections with the US
Internet/ FidoNet Gateway.  Select Usenet Newsgroups is also available
in FidoNet but SysOps has to pick them up from the Usenet/FidoNet
Gateway in the USA.  Receiving e-mail from Internet to FidoNet in
HongKong is no problem becasue all these traffic will be taken care by
the Zone 6 ZoneGate - a ZoneGate system is a system in FidoNet who taken
care of Inter-Zone e-mails from/to it's own Zone. (Note: Zone 6 is Asia
in FidoNet).

From Samson Luk (gu_jc3@uxmail.ust.hk)
FidoNet Regional Coordinator of HONGKONG & MACAU

---End Quote.

Samson runs a Fidonet bulletin board (Tel: 789-1267) and charges HK$2.50 per
message (and an annual membership fee of HK$400).  He's the cheapest link I
know of.  Compuserve costs an arm & a leg in connect charges and AT&T charges
HK$100 per month plus $2.50 per outgoing KB.  There's also an Internet (UUCP
currently) board that charges $80 per month flat for upto 2MB of incoming
and outgoing mail.

Raju 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lamx5870@mach1.wlu.ca (lewis lam)
Subject: Re: HELP
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:27:31 GMT

> SHUMP@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 wrote:
>: Ladies and Gentlemen,
>: 
>:           I am looking for the address, Fax, and e-mail of the Hong Kong
>: University of Science and Technology.  It would be grateful if any of you
>: 
>: can do me this favour.
>: 
>:                                            Perry

As what I know, the e-mail for the HKUST is @ustsu3.ust.hk 
I think it works!!
                    
                                     Lewis
From: chris@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: looking_for_boyfriend
Keywords: looking_for_boyfriend
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:50:23 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: chris@ng.austin.ibm.com


In article <9235211.6209@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, leong@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Kee Hoe LEONG) writes:
> Hello:
>  My name is Jenny Wong and i am an Australian Chinese (from Hong Kong).
>  I am an Uni first year commerce student (1992). I study in Melbourne,vic.
>  I am looking for a boyfriend age 23 or over. If anyone interested ,mail to
>  wjenny@nyx.cs.du.edu ,tell me about your address(mail),e_mail address,
>  age,height and occupation.
> 
> 
> 
>  with love,
>  jenny Wong.
>  _____________

You would get a much wider response if you had posted in alt.personal.
Unless you are only looking for someone who reads schk.

I am not sure how the term "boyfriend" is used in Australia but at least
in the US, a "boy/girl friend" implies probably, living together.

If this is what you are looking for, I suggest you limit	
your distribution to "Australia" rather than "world".
But then, I could be wrong someone from the Artics may fly down-under 
to meet you :-)		

Chris
From: Charles.Dittmeier@f74.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Charles Dittmeier)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Hello Charles
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:23:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 On 12-09-92 Dean Lee wrote to Charles Dittmeier... 
 
 DL> Great! Welcome to Shanghai! If u arrive Shanghai, pls give  
 DL> me a voice call, maybe we will have a chance to meet! :) 
 
Thanks, Dean....I'll certainly do that!  And you be sure to 
let me know if you're coming south to HK! 
 
Peace, Charlie 
 
... OFFLINE 1.41 * Recycle!<>Recycle!<>Recycle!<>Recycle! 

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From: Frankie.Leung@p105.f121.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Frankie Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: China still "stands tough" and Clinton may act as a mediator.
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:44:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hello C.W.!

14 Dec 92, C.W. Chung writes to All:

 >> ``I think it is clear from the activities in China in the last few
 >> years that the Chinese desperately want to maintain the economic engine
 >> of Hong Kong,'' Clinton told business leaders. ``Now I hope they
 >> understand that they really can't maintain it unless they also maintain
 >> a large range of personal freedom, liberty and human rights.

 CWC>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 >> ``And I think the United States should do what it can ... to ensure
 >> that human rights and personal freedoms will be observed moving toward

 CWC>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 >> 1997 and beyond,'' the president-elect said.

 CWC> Can't help but noting the conspicuous absence of the word 'democracy'.

    I guess Britian has bet on the wrong horse. For Hong Kong's sake, I hope
China still give a ladder for Pattern or should I say Major to climb down.


Frankie

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,talk.politics.china
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:24:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.024654.1379@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> mingh@momth1.maths.monash.edu.au (J He) writes:
>
>          I only describes those people who don't obey to me as runnung dogs,
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^
>          like you. People who make contribution to the common interest of
>          the Chinese nation are our comrades. 
>


Why do you use the word "obey"? You think you are god or dictator? 
I really cannot imagine you are an educated person (who don't even
know how to spell "running". Also, you should not put an 's' when
you used the word 'I'). How do you justify your interest
to be the common interest for the Chinese nation? 



>          Jian Chen-2
>
>          You are 100% capitalist running dog. Chinese government
>          always acts for the common interest of the Chinese nation.
           ^^^^^^
>          However British government always takes advantage from Hongkong,
>          from the common interest of the Chinese nation.
>


You should not use "always" here unless you specified a timeline on
your statement (the timeline may be a few minutes per day?). I can
easily state something that the Chinese Government did that were not
of common interest to the Chinese nation (how about Cultural
Revolution?).



>          Jian Chen-2
>


-Raymond Choy (who feel really upset by reading all those junk news,
               including those from myself) 



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mak853@cs.cuhk.hk (Mak Ming Chi)
Subject: Re: any FREE internet service in Hong Kong?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:15:02 GMT

chris@austin.ibm.com () writes:


>In article <8X8PTB3w165w@gnct.com>, garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng) writes:
>> pclai@napier.uwaterloo.ca (poon chor  LAI (Antony)) writes:
>> 
>> > 
>> > I have a few questions about internet in Hong Kong:
>> > 
>> > 1) Is there any FREE internet services in Hong Kong.
>> >         ( I need e-mail, if ftp is available, that is prefect.)
>> > 
>> > 2) If no Free internet service, what is the charges?
>> > 
>> > 3) Is there any bbs in Hong Kong is internet available?
>> > 
>> > Please post or e-mail the answer to me. 
>> > My e-mail address is : pclai@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
>> > 
>> > Thanks
>> 
>> A number of local FIDO do gate mails to and from internet. I don't know if
>> they are free. I am quite satisfy with my account here but it is not free.
>> 
>> 
>> garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
>> GloCom BBS - The BBS brings usenet/internet to Hong Kong Public (852)4925025

>Could you elaborate on the local FIDO? I would like to have my family back
>in HK get on the FIDO so we can exachane E-mail.
>How does one get on? >What system does on need? >What is the charge?
>Thanks,		

>Chris
>cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

1) You can exchange e-mail with your friends(overseas) in asia link.
it is a echo area. My friend David Liu post a message in asia link
at his bbs(winnipeg,canada),  I received his msg in asia link of a bbs
in hk.  It takes almost a week (?) However, the msg is not private.
myou can send private message thru net mail. and bbs charge for this.
eg at hk pc user group, they charge $2.5 hk dollar for each oversea
message, usre you can send the net mail to an internet domain address.

					PAUL MAK
					12/11/92
P.S: they use pc.
:)
:wq

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Forged Account Name
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:47:12 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <eln235s.724582591@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Humphrey Hui) writes:
>Recently, someone suggested that some account likes "J*** C*** 1234" could
>be forged. Apparently, I received a mail from "J*** C*** 2" from an account
>within my campus.
>
>Anyway, does anyone out there have such experienced on forged account?
>
>BTW, what kind of mentality is that to used a forged account name to
>post/mail something could be insulting? Is it usual for the computer
>administration to ban such forging?
>
>[P.S. : I am posting from my REAL account!]
> 

Most universities I know ban such things, but offenders could easily to be
found everywhere.  You could find quite a few mainlanders work as
consultants at the computer center easily, and thus they may just do whatever
they like.

If these guys work at company, they have much more freedom to forge around
since the systems administrators are more lax on this.

The best way to deter such jerks are simply IGNORE them.


- Louis Pang


From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:09:40 GMT
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, CCSY Messaging Centre, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

Come on, you guys. Forget these JC-2 JC-3. I don't think they are real
Pro-CCPer. I have a feeling that they are HKer but jst faking the origenal
JC. The intension may show that how stupid JC was.

And the faking is not professional enough. We can still find that the
messages were from oz. I really like the one sent from someone who faked
an address as lipeng@zhongnanhui.ccp.peijing.china.

Can JC-4 enlight us?

Thank you.


Yuk Chan


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: New albums release news
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:18:40 GMT

Hi all SCHKers,

Sorry that I haven't posted the chart this Sunday, I am feeling a bit down in
mood, so, that's why I haven't did that.

I think I might post here later the latest news about the release of albums
instead, think it's a good idea?

OK, I just heard that Andy's album will release on Friday, and Leon's too (I
really wonder this news about Leon's album, I think he released his album not
long ago...anyway, I will write again to confirm later). One album is for sure
to release on Friday, that is Irene Wan Bik-ha's album...well, a good buy for
all those who like her...and if you don't like her, better think before you
purchase...:P

Sandra Ng Kwan-yu's album is released...yeap, that is the Ng Kwan-yu in many
films, the Ng Kwan-yu who is said to be Alex To's girfriend...it is she..what's
so special?....:P

And I think Elaine Ho Yuen-ying's album will soon release too.

Also, Shirley Wong Ching-man just has a new plug on the radio, a 100% locally
composed song, quite nice...so, I think she'll have another brand new album
soon too! Of course, not as soon as next week, but will not be longer than 2
months.

Another Shirley, Kwan Shuk-yee this time, also just has a new song called
"Dela" (sp?)...I remember it is just on the chart...and Shirley Wong's too.

And for those Jacky fans, no worry, his "Still think you're the best" is still
on #1...with Andy's "Pretend" on the #2...the #3 place, I forgot already.

OK, that's all for this time, see you all later..

*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*
-= Aulina Chan Sau Chun =- 91066702@cphkvx.bitnet
City Polytechnic of Hong Kong
Division of Humanities and Social Sciences
Higher Diploma in Translation and Interpretation (Year 2)
>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Louis Lin)
Subject: Re: smoking
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181150.45704@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <BzD2ID.8yB@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca>, lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Louis Lin) writes:
>> 
>> I cannot see why anyone 'deserve to die' from your personal habbit.  There are
>> too many places where it is not clear smoking is allowed or not, and there are
>> too many places with poor ventilation (such as in a plane).  Yes, you may legally
>> smoke in these places, but people may get illness because of your insensible act.
>
>So, you mean they can die from breathing a little amount of smoke?  Give me a
>break.

Smoking increases the risk of getting various discease.  Second-handed smoker
may not inhale as much as smokers do but they still face health risk they do not
want or deserve, no matter how small that risk is.  There is little non-smoker can
do in a poorly ventilated area, but smokers sure can constraint themselves by
not smoking.

>If it is not clear, tell them to make it clear.  Ask them.  You got a 
>mouth and you speak, don't you?
>

Before that is done, smokers can use their common sense to determine whether
it is appropriate to smoke rather than the it-is-legal-to-smoke-here-so-I-do
attitude. ("Hay! This is the smoking section of the plane.  You don't like it?
Complain to the airline company, or jump off.")

-- 
______________________________________ 
| email : lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca | "Theoretically speaking, it's
| Louis Lin, Computer Graphics Lab,  |  too practical, and practically
| University of Waterloo, Canada.    |  speaking, it's too theoretical."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eng10187@nusunix1.nus.sg (LAM TAT FAI)
Subject: Re: HongKong Popstar Gifs
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:55:56 GMT

Hello,
C
I am a new comer to the computer. Would anyone tell me how to use ftp? 
I know that I can access ftp. I would like to know how to access those
HK stars photoes. Thanks in advance.

Lam, Allen

I
From: x8a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Siuwing Tam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HongKong Popstar Gifs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:51:59 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: keats.rick.cs.ubc.ca

To who that can help:

After viewing the fabulous colletion of Hong Kong Popstar gifs in the ftp site,
'asia.lcs.mit.edu' I have been amazed ever since. Unfortunately, this ftp site
does not have many of the Hong Kong star I like. If anyone can help me find and
scan the following stars, I will be very happy. The stars that are not include
in the ftp site are YUENG HUNG, MAN YEE MUN, YUEN GEET YEE and LEE CHING. These
popstars might not be very popular but I hope someone can find them.  An
information that might help is that they all appear on Hong Kong's Asia T.V.
channel. Thanks for the help and good luck.

Stanley Lau
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:29:37 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au


In article <3479@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
|> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
|> 
|> >What a stupid article!
|> 
|> >Lin Can
|> 
|> Lin Can't come out with anything better than this ??
|> Come on, ask your 'masters', surely they can come
|> out with something more concrete !

Surely nothing worth commenting on your nonsense postings.

Lin Can
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Subject: Hongkie is an insulting word
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:38:08 GMT

In article <3465@peking.gdwb.oz.au> mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
> You  hit it right on the head of the nail !  What happened to all
> the
> so  called  'freedom & democracy' fighters ?  All  putting  their
> tails
> behind their legs ? :) Come on, you selfish, self-righteous    
> & arrogant bunch  of Hongkies, show some guts & not just barking   
> wildly at the CCP. The mainland Chinese at least have more    
> dignity than you.
 
     "Honkie" is used by white-hating black people to refer to
whites in a derogatory manner, similar to the use of "Nigger".
 
     I am astounded that Mee Teng uses a racist epithet to refer
to the people of Hong Kong, supposedly his compatriots.
 
     In my mind I keep giving myself excuse to forgive people,
after time,  even after they did some strange,  unkind things,
the excuse being that they are very different.   Well,  I
don't know, like <sending out tanks to crush people>, this one is
quite offensive  and  repugnant, and everyone, even from-another-
planet Deng, should know it.
 
Wing

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: trinhm@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Muoi-Ky Trinh)
Subject: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone !!!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:44:55 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asean
From: skc@Turing.ORG (Shriram K. Chaubal)
Subject: Job related questions about HK/Singapore.
Followup-To: poster 
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:13:35 GMT


Hi folks,

I have a question. I am likely to be transfered to either Hong-Kong or 
Singapore by my company. I work as a senior engineer for the company and 
expect to re-negotiate my terms with my parent company.

A few questions I have would be related to lifestyles/cost of living in 
these parts of the world. These include a) Taxation rates b) Cost of 
renting a two bedroom apartment in a suburb with easy access to transport, 
c) Cost of eating a quick lunch at a fast food place/cheap restarant,
d) Cost of a night out on the town i.e. beer/drinks/going to a club/nice
dinner.

Also what is the average pay that a "Senior Software Engineer" with considerable
management/design responsibilites would make?

Any and all input would be appreciated on this!

Thanks!

Shriram Chaubal

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Re: driver's license to drive in HK
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:56:46 GMT

In article <ONLAW.92Dec10152101@taiping.oakhill.uucp> onlaw@taiping.oakhill.uucp (Wai-On Law) writes:
>Does anyone know if a foreign resident needs an international driver's
>license to drive in HK?  I have a US driver's license already and I am
>going back to HK for a month.  Thanks.
>
>On
>--
>  \_______   \___    \__  |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|     \    
> \_________  \____   \__  | Wai-on Law                            | |=======|
>\___________ \__\__  \__  | (onlaw@ssdt-oakhill.sps.mot.com)      | !  / |  /
>\___    \___ \__ \__ \__  | SSDT - Logic & Test Design Technology |  -+--+--
>\___    \___ \__  \__\__  | Motorola Inc., Mail Drop OE-321       |    \/
> \_________  \__   \____  | 6501 William Cannon Drive West        |    / \
>  \______    \__    \___  | Austin, Texas 78735-8598              |
>			  `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'

If you have a US driver license, i think you can get a HK one right away
without taking any more test, but the thing is, you need to pay quite a
few money ($600 maybe? that's what i heard)

Fran

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong