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From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: cheech & chong
Date: 11 Dec 92 00:18:12 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <Bytt3J.Mr9@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, raistlin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
(Steven White) writes:
>In article <4DEC199212114283@rosie.uh.edu> inde7fw@rosie.uh.edu (Loftis,
Danny) 
>writes:
>>  are any of you very familiar with cheech and chong.  a long time ago they
>>put out an album that i can barely remember, but i remember that i enjoyed
>>it.  anyway, they had a song on there sung by cheech marin(?) that was about
>>dressing like a woman.  one the lines went something like: "my daddy caught
>>me in the bathroom with a pair of pantyhose."  the music to the song was 
>>very similar to the bit extra on the ASOH version of Big Money ( at the very
>>end of the song).  does anybody out there know what i'm talking about?
>>if so do you think that there may be a connection?  i know that the members
>>of rush have a sense of humor, but does it include the likes of the humor
>>of cheech and chong?
>>
>>
>>                                               i just don't know anymore,
>>                                               dan
>>                                               inde7fw@jetson.uh.edu
>
>Holy shit, how far can you stretch to connect rush to something. Gimme a break
>-steve
>
Welp, that song is called 'Earache My Eye' and it has more of a Black Sabbath
feel to it than RUSH!  haha. =)  Nice try.
From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Re: Geddy's bass
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 16:35:29 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: Bass


umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile) writes:
>In _Visions_ there are several pictures of Geddy with a bass that's
>shaped
>sort of like a drop of water.  Does anyone know what kind this is?
>I'd
>really like to know.
>
>Thanks.

Well, I believe I read an interview with Geddy about that one (maybe
when he was interviewed with Les Claypool in Guitar World. Anyway,
he said it was an old Ric 4001 that he took to woodshop class :).
Seriously, he chopped it up to make it that shape, and I think put
some different pickups on it.. All in all, Ged said it was a flop-
he didn't like the sound.

Later-
Chris

-Maybe I can carve my Ric into the shape of a tanquerey bottle!
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if...
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:07:16 GMT
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In article <1992Dec15.040651.20048@reed.edu> jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney) writes:

[ notation stuff edited ]

>Surely, they MUST!  In my old band, I was the only one who could read music.  They only way  
>to do it, pretty much, was "Four bars of this... eight bars of this..." etc.  Anything with  
>Rush's complexity, it seems to me, requires notation.

Nah, we used to write some stuff that was Rush/Yes oriented.  Never required
notation, just a lot of work.  In fact, the fiddly bits would require work-
through even if you had written it down.

My favorite was a song called Pipeline to Truth, which was a rather 
masochistic incantation along the lines of La Villa Strangiato.  Except 
that, well it was just different.  We definitely had the feel of Chris 
Squire meets Alex and Geddy and has one too many.
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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Happy Holidays...
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:06:29 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

1st: Anyone know how much Rush through Time is worth (the album
without the cover picture on the platter)?

2nd> I'd just like to wish everyone here whom I have chatted with,
and even those who just enjoy the net, a very Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year!!! It has been a real pleasure this semester
(for the most part) tuning in here, and hopefully we'll get some
good news this next 6 mo's coming up.. 

I would really like to hear Rush put out an X-mas CD
- Let it Snow
- Rudolf
- Deck the Halls
- It's beggining to look alot like X-mas
- Chestnuts roasting...

I can hear Geddy now.." woah yeah let it snow dog let it snow dog..."

take care everyone!

Chris
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From: rgrozier@uncc.edu (Richard Rozier)
Subject: Re:Caress of Steel
Keywords: 
	Being a heavy-duty Rush fan, I've got all their albums in
Reply-To: rgrozier@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:37:21 GMT

one form or another. Caress of Steel is one of my favorites and
I listened to it ALOT over a period of two or three years. 
	I have trouble not recommending any Rush album. (I think
if you're at all serious about Rush, you should hear all their
music.) But, perhaps, this album isn't advisable to the casual
listener.
	I think CoS is a moody album (with no keyboards in it).
Bastille Day has some great lyrics about the French Revolution, a 
sort of painless way to study history. The Necromancer (I think -
a person who predicts the future by talking to the dead, maybe 
someone else knows for sure) has some heavy jam in it - just guitar, 
bass, and drums. I think the middle solo section is indulgent and 
as "head-banging" as they've ever been, but I love it. The second 
side is where they shine, though. The first time they devoted the 
whole side of an album to one theme. In the Valley, with its key 
changes and time changes, was one of the first of many Rush tunes 
that stuck in my head. I kept wanting to listen to it constantly. 
Then there's the mysterious Didacts and Narpets and the emotional 
No One at the Bridge. Bacchus Plateau is also one of my favorites, 
which is why I was upset to hear Lou Gramm's _Midnight Blue_ which 
I think is an exact copy of the chord progression of BP. Does 
anyone else think so?
	Overall, I think CoS is a great album that I immediately 
liked.

Rich
UNC Charlotte

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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Chronicles
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:59:08 GMT

In article <15DEC199220275025@zeus.tamu.edu> jgh2457@zeus.tamu.edu (HUBBLE, JEREMY GROBERG) writes:
>In article <1glbeeINNele@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ducky@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher C. Johnson) writes...
>>Yes, I noticed the "gap" on my Chronicles cassette during NWM.  I was always
>>wondering about that, but I never had anybody to compare with (most of my
>>friends aren't Rush fans)... their loss.

>Does anybody have a copy of the Chronicles tape that DOESN'T have that problem?
>
>Finally, why I'm here, does anyone know if any drum music has been printed?

I think that is included in their "song book" to be found in your local
record store (at least Musicland used to have it -- if I knew how to play,
I probably would have picked up a copy myself)

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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Changes to Rush Fans Frequently Asked Questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:15:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.173636.14652@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
>   
>>   Where does the name 'Rocinante' come from?
>>   
>> 
>>  ----- Changes to faq.3 -----
>> 
>> No differences encountered
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Dan Delany
>> dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu
>> I failed the Turing test.
>
>Rocinante was a name from _Don_Quixote._  I believe it was his horse, but  
>I don't know for sure.
>
>Moleface

	Rocinante was Don Quixote's horse from El Hidalgo de La Mancha.  It 
has been used over the years in various texts and basically means a means of
transport for a dreamer.  That isn't the literal meaning of the word of course,
but If you've ever read the book (the original old Spanish is best), you would
understand.


-- 
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:12:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.121322.29482@syma.sussex.ac.uk> jasonr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jason F Ralph) writes:
>Jeffrey P. Moon (jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
>: I believe that IMHO means "in my honest opinion" - or am I missing it?
>
>I thought that it was 'In My Humble Opinion'? It was when I wrote it
>anyway! 

You are correct sir!  (You have to picture the Ed McMahon voice yourself)

I'll post this once and then leave it alone, so as to save the net
"thousands of dollars" from me clogging up the bandwidth with my
nonsense.

Webster's New School And Office Dictionary defines the word "humble"
as follows:

	(hum'bl), adj.  having a low estimate of one's self; modest.

Now, the way in which this all-to-common abbreviation is typically
used, it would implie that the sender had some decision in the release
or exhibit of what he or she is talking about...

In direct context, I do not remember ever seeing anyone associated with
any of Mercury Records publishing corporation post to this newsgroup (but
please forgive me, my photographic memory is usually pretty good about
eluding me).

I basically thought that the abbreviation "IMO" would have been more
appropriate (as it is in most cases like this) in the context used...

Forgive me for being so net.picky...   =)

RiViT

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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 10 Dec 92 14:37:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1g656kINNchc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder) writes:

>Never heard this album before.  It seems to be the one with the longest
>songs on it, though, am I right?  I've always been a big fan of long
>songs, especially with big instrumental sections.  Are these any good?
>Should I check it out?  Keep in mind that if I had money to blow buying
>every single Rush album, I'd do it -- but I don't.

Buy it, it's very unlikely that you'll be disappointed. If you like
"By-Tor and the Snow Dog" then you'll love "The Necromancer". And half
the album is one long song (technically and series of connected songs)
If you're into musical "atmosphere" this may end up being your favorite
Rush album. It was the last one I bought (in the process of buying them
all) and I could've kicked myself for buying it last!


Gregg
From: wipperma9340@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Armagettel
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:33:26 -0600
Summary: satan
Reply-To: wipperma9340
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

How about a discussion dealing with the Satanic aspects of Rush.  Come on now,
we all know that Rush is simply a cult dedicated to Lucifer.  Certainly, the
anti-God lyrics point us toward complete societal decay.  As a great pastor
from Michigan once said:

"Rush is another group that uses the occultic symbol of the five-pointed star. 
They use it on all of their albums.  One album features a nude man surrounded 
by levitating brains.  Their songs include The Battle of the Heart and Mind, 
Apollo Bringer of Wisdom, Armagettel . . . uh, Armageddon, and The Spirit of 
the Radio.  I bet they know a lot about the spirits of the radio."

Now, how can you escape the truth?

DPW (formerly the Analog Kid, until I reformed myself to the holy life)
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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays...
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 16:19:18 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

The Quest for the 'RUSH THROUGH TIME' Begins...

Yes, it does exist... your story is kinda funny Joe, as it happens,
My older brother's friend did find it out of state at a Record shop
that had a holy grail becon! Seriously though, I found it at Record
and Tape traders in Baltimore. In fact, they had two versions... the
original and an lp with the album cover on the vinyl- a little too
pricey for me at that time..

It is not a bootleg, and contains no new material... It is primarily
a 'bestof' up to I think a Farewell to Kings.. I don't have it here
with me, so i can't give you a rundown of the songs.. Hopefully once
I get HOME I can do so..

The thing I couldn't understand is the album has covers up to 
??MP?? I do believe, yet not every album is represented on this
one..

Take it easy- 
Santa

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From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: Re: Alex' guitar work on p/g
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:35:20 GMT

I must start with the standard disclaimer stating that I enjoy the
entire Rush catalog, but Signals (yes, Signals), Grace, and Power
Windows are my favorites because of the GUITAR.  Aural bliss.
I'm also partial because p/g was the 1st Rush album I bought on
the day of its release.

I play in a band, and if there is anyone's style I can be said to
have borrowed from heavily, it's Alex's style from this period.
Also Andy Summers from around the same time.  They really weren't 
that far apart in several ways.

If anyone follows this up, send an extra note to my e-mail.  I don't
always get a chance to check the newsgroups.

Jeff
Farewell to Juliet
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:46:04 GMT
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In article <1992Dec16.001502.26956@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young) writes:

> Hey, I love a good argument, any way I can come by it!  :)

No you don't.

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From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Subject: Re: Geddy's bass
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:16:42 GMT
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu

In article <BzJ3KM.21B@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin  
Bowles Nevile) writes:
> In _Visions_ there are several pictures of Geddy with a bass that's shaped
> sort of like a drop of water.  Does anyone know what kind this is?  I'd
> really like to know.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

	That was a normal bass before Geddy decided to do a little remodeling.  
If I remember correctly, it's a cut up P-bass or Rick (just look at the  
pickups). The story behind it is mentioned in Visions on the opposite page to  
the picture. I think B-man says what it is and why Geddy decided to make it  
look like a Vox (I don't have my copy with me, so look it up).

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From: cw001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Cristobal Weinholz)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: DREAM THEATER - "Images & Words"
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:41:45 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec16.165242.22058@u.washington.edu> strega@hardy.u.washington.edu (The Analog Kid) writes:


>> >I heard that Dream Theater tune "Pull me under" too....It
>> is really good.  How
>> >is the rest of the CD.  Worth buying?
>> 
>> Definitely. "I&W" is one of the best '92 records (IMHO).
>> It's one of the few records you don't have to listen
>> to with the remote control nearby (to skip bad tracks).
>> Worth buying! 

>Does anyone else have a CD that sounds like "Pull me Under" is cut off right 
>during the middle of a lyric?  Is it just mine (I have a promo copy) or is it this way on everyone's?

Yes, that's the way it is on all of the albums.  After many listens to it, I
came to the conclusion that it makes a little musical sense, but I think it was
a mistake to end the song that way.  Otherwise, it's an incredible album (I
agree, it's one of the best of '92), and I'm *really* looking forward to
seeing them in concert!

Cristobal Weinholz			"Those who know what's best for us
University of Rochester		       must rise and save us from ourselves"
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell)
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Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:06 CST
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In article <1992Dec14.162045.29054@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes...
>That's right, John. You'd better take cover; I am very proud of America and
>of our national anthem. Any Anti-American bald-headed bitch who thinks that
>whatever she says go and that I am nothing better than a right-winged facist
>who enjoys showing his patriotism and love of America (that is how you spell
>it, by the way) should go fuck herself. Are you saying that principle is

Seems you stand by the creed and have forgotten the message.  The spirit of 
America is not that everyone should agree with you or they can go to hell.  

>nothing but a crock and that everyone should go burn a flag today? Well, I
>feel really sorry for you; obviously you are a weak-spined jellyfish who
>cannot help but conform to the new age ideas of society. Do you not love
>your country? I am not saying that America is perfect, but I can't
>understand why you refuse to show a little national pride. Or have I missed
>something and it is now "hip" to be anti-America?
> 

If he is not proud of it, why should he show pride _just_ because you do?  Yes 
you are a little fascist pig.  You seem to be more insecure with your 
patriotism than others, so you flaunt it piously.  Does conformity make you 
more secure?  I believe that you are the jellyfish here.

Now take this to alt.flames or some Shine-head O'Connor group.

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:46:43 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Theater show last night :-(

I was there at the Bayou too last night...

I was the one who was the only person there getting into Cathedral, cuz I
know the guitarist (he goes to my school-- AU)...

Dream Theater were very very uninspired, due to the poor attendence (due to the
shitty weather), and the fact that they played the same club just over two
months ago...

The October show at the Bayou was much better, since there was a larger crowd,
no technical problems (I couldn't HEAR Kevin Moore the keyboardist for the
first two songs) and there was even a Mike Portnoy drum solo then...  The whole
band was much better then than last night, IMO

Cathedral, on the other hand, completely blew me away... Any Marillion/Genesis
fans (the older, better stuff) should check out their CD _Kingdom of Ends_...
E-mail me (mweintr@american.edu) for the address to write the check to ($15)

I don't think anyone's ever flatout compared DT to Rush, becuase there is no
comparison, it's just that the influences are great (John Petrucci, the
guitarist, even has a preset on his rack named "Lifeson")... The band
essentially is two metalheads (Portnoy and Myung, the bassist) with a couple of
"proggers" (Moore and Petrucci) with a vocalist...

All in all, I thought it was a good show, and it was almost worth the 75min
walk I had to take back in the rain from the Bayou (but I won't get into that
here...)

Peace,

Mike
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From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Anthem as an example: an opinion
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:48:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec15.105659.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:

>	About the national anthem-
>	Just an opinion here, but the way to handle the problem (and the way I
>think anybody who is _REALLY_ trying (only) to do the right thing would be to
>ask the audience before performing.  It makes the most sense to me as being the
>way to say how you feel and still respect each other.  

>Stage before performance:
>[a skinny bald person (hard to tell gender with the clothes) comes onto stage]
>(in a moderate irish accent):
>	"I want you all to know that I don't wish to be required to reform to
>your belief-systems.  I am not a member of your country, and do not wish to be
>forced into paying homage to your government.  Because of this, I would like to
>ask that the national anthem not be sung here.  How many of you would prefer
>to sing it?" [crowd cheers wildly, a few yells of irritation that somebody'd
>ask such a thing]  "How many would rather not?" [virtual silence]
>	"Okay, play the anthem.", and walks calmly off of the stage, not
>participating in the singing, and her values are kept without being 'terrorist'
>about it.
>	It's kind of like (I appologize for whiplash) our local (I'm in Utah
>State, USA) problem of prayer in school.  I have no problem with people wanting
>to pray in public places.  I have a problem when people force their religious
>viewpoint onto me (it's even worse that they don't realize they're doing so,
>or care).  If you want to have a prayer before graduation, anounce that a
>prayer will be held at 7:45 and anybody who wishes to attend can, and the
>graduation ceremony will begin promptly at 8:15.  I don't see why people don't
>get the simple idea of asking if it's okay...

>|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
>|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|

Hey, that seems like a pretty good idea. It definitely is more respectful to
people's feelings (and Steve, please don't begin an argument with me about
this because I do respect other people's feelings... =) ).
-- 
Jeffrey Moon			* "And the trees are all keep equal,		
University of Rochester		*  By hatchet, ax, and saw..."
New York			*		- Rush, "The Trees" 
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