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From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: PM and C++
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 01:46:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <715376442haen.news@veces.stgt.sub.org> haen@veces.stgt.sub.org (Herbert Neugebauer) writes:
>Hello,
>
>now we have OS/2 2.0 running and are using our C++
>compiler (one of them :-), but the interface to
>PM-programming is still a normal C-Interface.
>
>Are there any plans for C++ support for programming
>the presentation manager?? 
>
>Ciao
>
>  Herbert
>
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If you are looking for a pure OS/2 2.0 class library one place to look is
the announced but not yet shipping class library from Raleigh Systems
Their aim is to quote their "white paper" that I got this evening 

" The ObjectPM class library is intended simply to provide C++ applications
a true object-oriented interface to OS/2. ....    

........

"It is for this reason that we have put so much emphasis on the classes to
manage multi threading and the file systems. With ObjectPM mutli-threaing
was not an after-thought . In fact the Thread class wasw the first calss 
designed."


As I say this is not shiping yet  but they are in beta.  

Company details are:

Raleigh  Systems
23200 Chagrin Boulevard
2 Commerce Park Square
Cleveland Ohio 44122
(USA) 216-292-7225


I have no connection with this company I just saw an announcenment in
the C users journal and called them to get this info. 


Martin P. Smith
msmith@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
Subject: Re: Division by 0 crashes OS2/2.0
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:44:34 GMT

In article <92248.101602HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu> HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu (H. Choe) writes:


>...  Oh, if one suspects a hardware-related problem, I would suggest
>that he may use f2c to check whether he can duplicate the problem.

Another good check to do without resorting to C is to try the
PARANOIA ( this evil spirit in action again -:) program from NELIB. It
"specializes" in cases like that. 

>BTW, f2c with GCC/2 2.2 is very nice and fast in floating point calc.
>Although it is a little slower than WATCOM, it is not slower than
>f2c with GCC/EMX in my experience (GCC/2 2.1 was a bit slower).

The main problem I had with f2c is poor debugging. You have to debug
a barely readable C-code. It is all right if you just want to port
a mainframe/workstation code with little or no changes, but I think
that for serious development GDB (the GNU debugger) is not efficient.

Also, I think ( not sure )that floating point exceptions are disabled 
in the  EMX port. This does not  assist in debugging numerical codes
either.

By the way, how are the debugging facilities of the WATCOM compiler ?
How are the compared to MS CodeView ? I would appreciate any information
on it.

Thanks, 
Dov

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From: medin@cod.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Subject: HELP - Borland 3.1 debuger
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:42:54 GMT


 2nd try - Have a large pgm under 3.1 which the debugger will not load. Anyone
had any sucess with large pgms (400k) and the debugger?
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From: smackinl01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: BASH Shell Port.
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:17:03 GMT

One small question -  Has a port of the BASH unix shell been done? If so, where
is it, and if not, how hard would it be? Specifically, what I would like in
OS/2 would be the command-line completion feature that the BASH shell under
Linux has.

NB: I'm not ignoring you, I just don't have international EMAIL.
-- 
Simon.
Have you got a form 27/b?

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From: ADUNSMUI@TOROLAB6.VNET.IBM.COM (Al Dunsmuir)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:35:55 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does math coprocessor speed up GUI (here: OS/2 presentation mgr)?
Organization: IBM Canada Laboratory Ltd, Toronto, CANADA
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
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In <17fuahINN1tl@iraul1.ira.uka.de> |S| Norbert Juffa writes:
>Hi netters!
>
>I a recent article on coprocessors for 80x86 systems I posted to
>comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware I claimed that installing a math coprocessor
>does not speed up GUIs (MS-Windows, OS/2 Presentation Mgr, X-Windows),
>since these use only integer math internally. However, people have
>told me that some GUIs indeed use fp math for stuff like arc drawing
>and similar operations. Does anyone know for sure whether OS/2's GUI
>benefits by installing a coprocessor. Please send email, as I do not
>usually read this group. I'll post a summary of responses I get, if I
>get any. Thanx in advance!
>
>Norbert
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Norbert Juffa       email: S_JUFFA@IRAVCL.IRA.UKA.DE        Live and let live!
>
Norbert,

  Whenever this question is asked of the OS/2 developers, the answer is that
for optimal performance all PM operations use integer math.  Thus having a
numeric coprocessor it will not speed up the base OS/2 presentation services.

  Having said that, having a math coprocessor (especially a tightly coupled
one as implemented in the 486) can speed up OS/2 applications.  For example,
IBM's X-Windows server (PM screen interface for TCP/IP) achieves __dramatic__
performance gains when a math coprocessor is present.

Al Dunsmuir                       Internet: adunsmui@torolab6.vnet.ibm.com
CODE Development II + TEAM OS/2      Voice: (416) 448-3315
IBM Canada Laboratory Ltd, Toronto, CANADA

OS/2 V2: Why settle for anything less?
From: jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: RESTART directive in config.sys???
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:58:58 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.programmer comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: New Mexico Tech

I briefly read an article the other day in comp.os.os2.misc about someone's
WPS locking up and he rebooted; a followup to that article told the person
to put a "restart" (or something--can't remember what it was) directive
in his config.sys that pointed to ?:\os2\pmshell.exe (or what ever), and
that by doing this, if the WPS locked up (i.e. Mouse and keyboard input
useless, but OS/2 is still VISIBLY running), that the WPS would restart
itself and everything would be fine (I assume a period of time would have
to elapse...). If anyone knows anything about this I'd appreciate some
knowledge of it. I've had the same problem myself and its annoying to
have to use the 3-fingered-salute to an OS which I think is great.

-Jr

Thanks.


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From: schmiher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hermann Schmidt)
Subject: Re: FSFILTER.SYS
Originator: schmiher@hphalle8f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:23:23 GMT


In article <1992Aug26.142405.23478@nmt.edu>, jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
|> (Dennis Yelle) writes:
|> >Has anyone here gotten FSFILTER.SYS to do anything useful?
|> >
|> >I put "DEVICE=FSFILTER.SYS" in the CONFIG.SYS file for MS-DOS 5.0
|> >in the hopes that it would allow me to read and write the HPFS
|> >partition on my disk from DOS.  It didn't have ANY effect.
...
 
|> I THINK (please correct me if I'm wrong) that fsfilter.sys is used when
|> one literally BOOTs a specific DOS kernel from within OS/2 (the "DOS from
|> Drive A" icon). If fsfilter.sys is used to boot dos straight, THEN its useless.
|> 
|> -John
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> MS-DOS is an interrupt handler with a brain-dead interface.
|> Windows is a pathetic attempt at.....????
|> OS/2 is the future....that's here right now!

You are right. Look at the size of fsfilter.sys. Something
around 25K if I remember that right. Anyway, it's small compared
to the files related to HPFS support in OS/2. You cannot put that in
such a small driver, can you? Besides, HPFS is proteced mode code...
From my point of view, FSFILTER.SYS serves to access a HPFS
system that is *already* running. That means OS/2 must be booted.
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From: bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
Subject: Re: Division by 0 crashes OS2/2.0
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:13:06 GMT

In article <92Sep03.032755.21494@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>In article <21529@optima.cs.arizona.edu> shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Shackelford) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.163508.17347@tc.cornell.edu> bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
>>>The following short program compiled with MS-FORTRAN 5.0 with 
>>>coprocessor crashes OS2 Ver. 2 on my machine:
>>
>>Sounds interesting.  Are you compiling to a DOS program and running
>>it in a VDM, or an OS/2 program?  If OS/2, is it with the 1.x or 2.0
>>libraries?  Please post more information...
>
>If he uses MS-Fortran, it got to be a DOS program.

No, MS-Fortran 5.0 is both a real & protected mode product. I think
that 5.1 merely adds Windows functionality that does not exist in 5.0.

>
>I tried with Ms Fortran 5.1 and with Watcom fortran 386 V9.
>
>Both return an answer 1.00000000.

It that is true, it is really bad - I would not trust such 
a compiler for any serious numerical work. 

>
>Luc B
>
>

Dov
From: haen@veces.stgt.sub.org (Herbert Neugebauer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: PM and C++
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:40:42 GMT
Organization: TRN Porting Labs

Hello,

now we have OS/2 2.0 running and are using our C++
compiler (one of them :-), but the interface to
PM-programming is still a normal C-Interface.

Are there any plans for C++ support for programming
the presentation manager?? 

Ciao

  Herbert

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From: gruen@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Lutz Grueneberg)
Subject: Re: FSFILTER.SYS
Reply-To: gruen@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de
Organization: University of Hannover
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:34:05 GMT

In article <83J4PB1w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org>, bbs.dennis@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Dennis Yelle) writes:
|> Has anyone here gotten FSFILTER.SYS to do anything useful?
|> 
You'll need it to boot DOS from a floppy disk *while* OS/2 is running 
(this is possible) and you want to read a HPFS partition or
you want to boot a DR-DOS, MS-DOS... image from a special file.
Theese things are described in the online help. 

|> Is there ANY known way to read the files on the HPFS
|> partition without booting OS/2?
 
No.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: How to crash OS/2 1.2 & 1.3?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:49:36 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug29.044807.15808@access.digex.com> terryfry@access.digex.com (Terry Fry) writes:
>
>DosPortAccess is part of the API, however it was never implemented.
>
>Run a program that writes to a set of ports in an IOPL segment,
>then call DosPortAcess restricting access to these ports, and write
>again.  Nothing is going to happen, no protection fault.

Are you sure?  I thought it works.  I'll have to find some way to test
it.  Note that you can't restrict yourself from a port with
DosPortAccess.  You can only restrict other apps from it.  Your app
will have to lock the port (via DosPortAccess) and go into a loop.
Some other app must then try and access the port.

If I read the API specs correctly, DosPortAccess MUST be called before
performing any PORT I/O, in order to secure permission from the OS
before using the ports.  Of course, the ports must be accessed from an
IOPL segment.

It may, however, be voluntary locking.  But this runs counter to
OS/2's design philosophy.

>I can't remember why IBM never finished its implementation, and
>I havn't remmebered where I read that it doesn't do anything.
>
>Any IBM'ers want to shed some light?

Yes, please do.  I'm confused about this now...


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From: ezeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Emil Johann Zeller)
Subject: Problems with gcc2_2.2.2
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:55:42 GMT

I downloaded the new gcc2 compiler from Comp.binaries.os2, now I have
problems compiling programs which compiled without problems with the older
gcc2 (2.2.1). The problems seems to be in the header files. The compiler
says he can't find machine/ansi.h and sys/cdefs.h if I include string.h.
Now my question, how can i fix this problem. If there is an fixed gcchdr.zoo
file, where can I get it (by email)?

Thanks in advance 	Emil
From: kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us (Kevin J. Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Toolkit + GCC 2.2.2?
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:11:07 GMT
Organization: SPS ACAD BBS, (412) 487-3637

If I was to obtain GCC 2.2.2 (the just released update to GCC/2) and then 
purchase the IBM toolkit for 2.0, would that be sufficient to write PM / 
SOM / whatever programs to work under OS/2 2.0? I'm currently working as 
a LAN/Lab Admin and there're plenty of guys at work who can help me with 
the details of PM programming. The catch is I don't want to have 
something that works part way.

....Kevin

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From: peterf@vnet.ibm.com (Peter Forsberg)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:48:36 SWE
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: DosReadQueue and Timeouts
Reply-To: peterf@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corporation
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <meek.714371000@fizzy> Lindsay Meek writes:
>Hello OS/2 people,
>   I'm trying to write a queue handler that incorperates the timeout
>feature available with semaphores i.e. DosSemWait(semaphore,timeout(ms))
>   I'm habving trouble getting DosReadQueue to suspend for a finite
>duration . Im using DosStartTimer and DosStopTimer and supplying the same
>semaphore as that used by the DosReadQueue function (in the hope that
>the Timer will signal on behalf of the DosReadQueue function). But it ain't
>working..
>   Has anybody had experience with this, or can suggest a method for
>doing it using the API calls?
>
>Thanks
>   Lindsay Meek (meek@fizzy.csu.murdoch.edu.au)
>

Lindsay,

I'm doing exactly the same thing that you want to do in the following way
(without using a timer):

1. Create a semaphore (I use a RAM semaphore), and SET it.

2. Create the queue.

3. Do an initial read on the queue, with the NoWait argument = (CHAR)1,
   and supply the semaphore handle of your semaphore.
   Try to do this while the queue is empty. You will then get the return-
   code ERROR_QUE_EMPTY - your semaphore is now registered by the queue
   subsystem, and will be CLEARed when something arrives in your queue.

4. You can now do a DosSemWait on your semaphore, and use the timeout
   value as you like.

5. If you get NO_ERROR from DosSemWait, you have element(s) in the queue.
   SET the semaphore.  Read elements with the same NoWait and semaphore
   arguments as in 3.  The semaphore will not be registered again until
   you get ERROR_QUE_EMPTY from DosReadQueue.  You can now GOTO 4, and
   wait on the semaphore again.

   If you get ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT from DosSemWait you can do your house-
   keeping (or whatever). The semaphore will stay SET and registered in
   the queue subsystem, so you just have to go back to 4 when you're done.

Hope this helps  (if not I can send you a code fragment)

Peter
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From: msmith%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Matthew Smith)
Subject: OS/2 C Compiler
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:33:30 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Does anyone know of a good C compiler for the OS/2 platform besides GNU and
the IBM Workset/2?  

Alternatively, has anyone heard of when Borland's proposed OS/2 compiler is
due?

Please reply via E-mail, because I don't read this newsgroup and I'm posting
this message as a favor.

Thanks in advance.


Matt Smith
msmith@peruvian.utah.edu
Student - University of Utah Department of Computer Science
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: db3l@ans.net (David Bolen)
Subject: Re: DosExitList Hangs Process (OS/2 V1.3)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:23:27 GMT
	<1992Sep1.135214.6864@njitgw.njit.edu>
Organization: Advanced Network & Services, Inc. - Elmsford, NY

In article <1992Sep1.135214.6864@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>>It's a pain, but try backing out to simple DosWrite's to stdout (you should
>>be able to use "fileno(stdout)", or just "(HFILE)1" I think).  Or, you can
>>create your own version of printf that is safe to call from the exit handler
>>(ie: just uses OS/2 system calls).
>
>It's probably easier to use VioWrtTTY calls.  I can post the syntax if
>you need it.

That's certainly another option, although I would think it's about the same
amount of pain to the programmer (you need to do your own formatting and
length determination in either case - both calls just take a buffer and
length).  Also, you can't redirect the output of Vio calls to a file, so if if
the process was ever run detached or in the background you wouldn't be able to
catch exit messages.

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From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: GNU Make 3.62 R2: "cannot find the file EMX"
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:28:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: monu6.1992Aug31.142815.26838
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

I have been trying to use the GNU Make with GCC 2.2.2 but I keep getting
the following message:

"SYS1804: The system cannot find the file EMX."

Does this mean that I have to use the EMX port? How do I make it to work
with the GCC port?

Thanks for any help.

Regards,
Wey J Ho

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: How to crash OS/2 1.2 & 1.3?
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:51:21 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug28.131233.26834@klaava.Helsinki.FI> silvonen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mikko Silvonen) writes:
>The subject says it all: I need a program that crashes OS/2 versions 1.2
>and 1.3. Plain GP faults are no good; the crasher must stop the whole
>system without mercy.

Why do you want this?  Planning on writing a new virus?  Or are you a
Microsoft field researcher?
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Why not OS/2 ???? Hmmmmmm
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:58:09 GMT

cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes:
> gunthar@milton.u.washington.edu (Johannes) writes:
>>Hey I don't understand why more people don't want to get there hands on OS/2
>>so maybe right now you don't think you want it right now. 

Their hands....

>>but how does 20 dollars sound to get yourself a copy.
 Huh? $20, how, what?
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From: spexet@math.lsa.umich.edu (D. Robert Spexet II)
Subject: Re: A Suggestion to IBM Management (sorta long)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 19:03:34 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world 

In article <1992Sep2.162241.7992@hemlock.cray.com> bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
>I wrote a letter to John Akers (3.5 pages with 38 pages of supporting
>documentation).  Basically, it talks about OS/2 Marketing and Advertising.
>
>One of its suggestions was to increase IBM developed OS/2 application 
>advertisign. These applications can show off the abilities OS/2 have in 
>important areas like multitasking, workplace shell, SOM, threading, support, 
>etc.
>
>People look for more than one example or voice.  By giving a voice to IBM's
>really outstanding OS/2 applications (e.g. TCP/IP for OS/2 1.2.1) it gives
>backing to OS/2.
>
>Isn't this what you are discussing?

It is exactly what I am discussing.  To be quite honest, OS/2 in and of itself
is, to most people, nothing more than a system that can run lots of applica-
tions at once.  (This is an opinion only.)  Many people are completely un-
aware of the powers of robust multitasking because they are so used to the
DOS/Windows paradigm of simple task-switching.

But with OS/2, IBM has a chance to make people a little bit more aware of
what multitasking gives you.  They have an entire suite of products that
can and do take advantage of the robust multitasking capabilities of OS/2.
They should promote them more.

>A personal moto : Don't like <.....> be a stealth product!
>
>Bert.


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