HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "RADAR" FOR THE 90'S????
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:36:33 GMT
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <3398.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> 
dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>Somebody else wrote:
>-> Rumor has it that the Massachusetts staties are equipping unmarked
>-> and markedcr infared / visual measuring tool that is accurate to
>-> within .1 mph. Rumor also says there is no defense because it's a
>-> passive device.
> Some departments are using infrared laser systems, but they're not
>passive.
> As far as I'm concerned, radar/speed measurement devices aren't worth
>much discussion.  Every state I'm familiar with has "too fast for
>conditions" or something similar.  No effective defense is possible.

I'm familiar with this, since I've beaten this rap before.  A lot 
depends on how the State defines "conditions".  If the gendarmes
cite you for "too fast for conditions", look at what the ossifer
has specified the "conditions" to be on the citation.  In my case,
he said it was a sunny, clear day.  Welllllll, in Illinois, "sunny"
and "clear" are not defined as "conditions", and are certainly not
"conditions" adverse to safe motor vehicle operation.  Since the
ossifer could not support his claim of "too fast for conditions",
the judge ruled that I was not guilty of the charge.

At that time, Illinois defined road conditions as something like
rain, sleet, snow, ice, gravel, slippery road, night, etc...stuff
like that...It's been a long time (approx. 19 years) so I can't
recall the exact legal definition, but I think y'all get my drift.

Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: <None>
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:00:02 GMT
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division

In article <1992Apr5.214659.26449@cco.caltech.edu>, ridgway@cco.caltech.edu (Alex Ridgway) writes:
> frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
>>* Several states get spastic over headphones, but I've never come across
>>*any place that prohibited earplugs.  Where is this?
> 
>>California. ...  The foam or rubber 
>>blobs that reduce all sounds are illegal.  So are earphones covering
>>both ears. ...
> 
> Does anyone know anyone who has actually been  *cited*  for this?
> I'm not disinterested, as I tend to use earplugs on any long ride...
> 
> -- Alex Ridgway    DoD #48


My deaf neighbor can drive, but I guess that's cuz he doesn't wear earplugs.
But this isn't California ;-)

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From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (William R. Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re:  Electronic countermeasures
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:42:08 GMT
Organization: W. R. Slack

I put my Solo in the map compartment of my tank bag and run the earphone
wire under my jacket. Works fine but you still have to disconnect when you
get off (uh, dismount). I wonder if you couldn't just put the solo facing
downward in your shirt pocket with some sheet metal bent 45 degrees to
reflect the incoming signal to the detector antenna. Run the wire up to
your ear. No need to disconnect from the bike. And the switches are easily
accessible.

Anybody tried it?

Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack) DoD#430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust!  Oo..o&o
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD M
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
->
-> Look! Flying purple elephants! Wearing hats! Can't you see them?!
-> Gummi bears! Gummi bears inside my head!  They're... they're
-> chewing on my brain!!  My eyeballs are exploding!

 Don'cha just HATE it when that happens?
                                                                                                                          
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeff@microunity.com (Jeff Kaskey)
Subject: Re: to call a Harley...  MINE!!
Keywords: harley davidson
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.193404.22914@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom) writes:
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>  she said i can! she said i can!  she said iiII  CAAANNN!!
>
>  yup it's true, the wife has unleashed me. 
>  I'm in the market for a Harley Davidson MC
>
CONGRATS!

Before you start, there are some questions you should address:

 - Will this be your first bike?

 - Will this be your only bike or will it share the stable?

 - What can you spend?

 - What kind of riding do you do or expect to do?

General notes:

Sportsters went Evolution in '86, Big twins around '83.  The Evolution
(Evo) motor is similar to it's predecessors in the bottom end, but
went to aluminum cylinders, new heads, flat pistons 'n some other stuff
up top (like dropping the Sportster's solid lifters for hydraulics).
There are shit-loads of things on the market for tweaking Harleys into
machines with different purposes, generally the Evos stand up to 
power hop ups better than the older styles, but most Harleys can be
made reliably quick. In early 80's (I think) the sportster frame was
improved for handling, and somewhere around there so was the big twin
frame. '79-'81 Sportsters are kinda different - many parts that fit both
older and newer don't fit on those years.  In the big twins there are
FX's which are the sportiest of the biggies, FL's which are teh classic
touring models and the Softail frame which looks cool and tours well
but isn't exactly a sport-bike. Any Harley can be made to tour in 
reasonable comfort with a good seat, saddle bags and maybe a windshield,
but if you are gonna be two up most of the time, especially if you are
both big or if you will be doing lots of miles together you probably don't
want a Sportster. (two, however, works very well :-).  

The AMF years have gotten a bad rap for quality, but by now most that are
still running have the bugs worked out - they are still basically good
cycles, the fitment just wasn't so hot in some cases.

So, answer the first questions and we can start getting more specific!

-jeff
From: shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: clymer manual for Hawk
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:24:50 GMT


My wife, who's been riding about a decade & a half longer than I
have and so thinks she knows everthing, claims that there's no 
Clymer manual for the Hawk.  Is this true, and if so, does anyone
know why?  Or if one might come out someday?


----------
Ray Shea			"Anti-lock brakes are a good thing, but
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650	 a brain is better."
(415)940-2527							-- Osborn
ntmtv!shea@ames.arc.nasa.gov	
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Meta-flame, etc...
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:23:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.165621.19300@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin) writes:
>I was responding to someone that felt the need to slam Harleys because
>some of the parts are imported and I really don't care where my tires
He didn't. He slammed a Harley RIDER who's sig said that one should
"Buy American."

-Ekr



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karen@brahms.amd.com (Karen Black)
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices; Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:14:01 GMT

Ron Moritz writes:

   In a previous article, space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) says:
   >Japanese bikes are called "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta
   >burners", so what do we call American bikes (Harleys)?
   >
   >Some possibilities:
   >
   >  - oil burners, burger burners, money burners, wallet burners
   >
   >Any one else have any suggestions?

Well, as we're talking about the principal grain product, how about

   ---> Wonder Bikes!!! <---

(a la Wonder Bread)

Take it as you will.

Karen Black
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From: htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,rec.sport.basketball.college,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER FROM A NY COMPANY.
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:16:12 GMT
Organization: The mad HATter's madhouse
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.28 2/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz

autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
>In article <htweedie.030q@madhat.actrix.gen.nz> htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie) writes:
>>In article <GERRY.92Apr7082429@onion.cmu.edu> you wrote:
>>>
>>>May 1992 rolls around, and still nothing.  This time I write a letter.
>>
>>^^^^^^ Gee and I thought it was only April??	
>>
>
>So the guy makes a typo.  Then Gerry says ...
>>	Hey I'd call that expert service if it arrived in June and we're on
>>ly in APRIL :-)
>>
>>>October 1992, PCC finally arrived, a full year, several calls annd
>
>Then the guy makes another typo.  Then Gerry says ...
>>
>>^^^^^^^ You sure we're talking about the same year?? (Orfor that matter the
>>same planet??)	
>>
>
>The net has enough flamers.  


	I wouldn't consider myself a flamer! Okay perhaps I was a little
over the top, but considering the number of posters I have seen over the
last coupel of weeks with supposedly "funny" April Fools jokes, I don't
consider my reaction particularly bizarre!

	Isn't your reply rather hypocritical anyhow??

>--
>Larry Autry
>Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
>autry@sgi.com 

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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 09:13:58 MST
From: Jeff Roberts <AGJXR@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Calif. Emission laws

Hi, I have a question from you folks in the Golden State:  I own an
RZ350 that was originally from California, so it came with a catalytic
converter.  I live in Arizona, and have passed the emissions test here
with this equipment removed.  I have a job offer in the Bay area and
want to know if I will have to return the bike to stock condition to
get it registered.  Are aftermarket pipes allowed on this bike?
Thanks in advance for any help.
"California here I come..."
Jeff Roberts
Dept. of Geology
Arizona State University
AGJXR@ASUACAD.BITNET
From: erik@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil (Erik van bronkhorst)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to call a harley
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:53:11 GMT
Organization: Naval Weapons Center, China Lake, CA

>for all (PC)kind.  "Save Our Harleys" can be our battle cry!  When
>special interest groups tell us that the Harley is disappearing, and
>Washington tells us that it has no money to help save the American
>Cycle Industry, only we can stand up and cry, "S.O.H.!"
>:-)
>(Yes, I own a Honda, I also eat whales and operate a small nuclear
>reactor in my basement.)
>"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966
>	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk

	This gave me the idea for a new group.  
The Save Our Wisconsin Bikes Interest Group.  SOW, BIG.
-- 
Erik van Bronkhorst KC6UUT erik@rftech.nwc.navy.mil
DoD#4342585443 AMA#438054 "3.412 squid" "2.5 geezer"
From: john@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (John Gardener)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ZZR600 Tell me more about them
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:28:33 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

I'm looking at buying a ZZR600 this year, but before I do I would
be interested in any owners comment on

	- performance
	- handling
	- problems
	- reliability
	- general likes/dis-likes
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:50:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.134624.8181@javelin.sim.es.com>
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>But nobody seems to have mentioned the one really weirdo feature of the
>engine: pushrods.

What's wrong with pushrods?  Compared to overhead cams
(especially on a V-twin, which would need two) they're
cheaper, simpler, and lighter in weight.  CX500s spin fine
with them.

What I don't understand is that this engine has a nice,
compact design with the cam right there next to the crank,
and people say that it STILL has cam chain tensioner
problems!

	Chuck Karish		karish@mindcraft.com
	Mindcraft, Inc.		(415) 323-9000
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Eng Wordsmith])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Master link clips
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:27:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Apr7.225850.5656@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> cookson@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>
>Well, the master link clip on my new chain has flown off into the ether.
>When this subject went 'round a month or so ago, someone had a trick
>for keeping the clips in place, but I can't remember what it was.  Can
>someone refresh my memory?

 Sure.

 Gorilla Snot.




 aka 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive.

 Stef
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From: bdhepler@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brad D. Hepler)
Subject: Re: motorcycle from "Black Rain"
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:28:21 GMT


eugene@uts.EDU.AU (R Rosen) writes:
>What bike does Michael Douglas ride in "Black Rain" ?

I haven't seen the movie, but in the Dennis Kirk catalog, Tracy sells a
fairing for the sportster and the FXR which is a replica of the fairing
in the flick.  It says that Tracy designed all of the bodywork for the
movie.  (Actually, for the bikes.)

Brad
___________
Brad Hepler     class of 92 Mech. Eng.       bdhepler@phoenix.princeton.edu 
cbr600 (note non-PC reinsertion of bike brand)  "What else floats in water?"
From: grenley@cirrus.com (George Grenley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley 883 owners, I need your opinions!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:48:26 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.  Fremont, California

In article <4558@unccvax.uncc.edu> mpd@unccvax.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis) writes:

>  The Harley 883 has had my attention for years,  Before next spring I want to 
>buy one. I really miss my Yamaha '78 XS 650 since selling it to my best friend.
>Two cylinders feels right to me.
>   An '883' would require some slight mods to make me totally happy though.  I
>would appreciate any comments or suggestions or corrections to the following 
>list of plans.

>Initial Bike ----  Harley XLH 883 Sportster , basic model, in 'Vivid Black'
>
>Initial changes ----  Change exhaust system to a Supertrapp 2 into 1.
>                      Add a Harley-Davidson oil cooler
>                      Change to Accel 9mm yellow plug wires (aesthetics)
>                      Change seat to a Corbin Gunfighter & Lady saddle

I'd suggest doing pipes/airbox/carb jetting at the same time.  Pipes w/o
airbox change (or vice versa) is not nearly as helpful as the two put together,
plus it's best to only have to go thru the re-jetting process once.

>Second changes  ----  Change ignition to a system which only fires one plug
>                        at a time, I believe DYNA makes it.
>                ----  Change brake pads to Ferodo's
>                ----  Add a Screaming Eagle carb modification & airbox kit.
>                ----  Change the camshaft (suggestions welcomed)
>                ----  Change rear shock (I am  6'2"/200lbs, any suggestions)

Do the Ferodos right away - the bike needs 'em, and they're cheap enough.
I recommend the MC Ignition sinlge-fire module over the Dyna setup - MC's
product allows you to adjust the advance curve and amount.

Progressive Suspension airshock are 'way too stiff - don't get them.  (Or else
do what I did - use on one side only, conventional shock on other side.)

>Third changes   ----  Get someone really good to tune it
>                ----  Get leather pants for me (I'm ready)
>                ----  Get leather pants for my wife (and get her on the bike)

Have fun!
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 12:57:37 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Is this a good deal? (GSXR750)
	<viking.702536925@aviator.cc.iastate.edu>

Howdy,
viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> In <a#1t_5d@rpi.edu> adamkp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter Adamkovics) writes:

[pete asks if $2000 is a good price for an '87 GSXR750 and if that's a
"good" bike.]

>         The question you need to be asking is this: "Am I responsible
> enough to put time and money towards learning to ride safely, or do
> I just want to ride the fastest (or fastest-looking) bike to come out?"
> If you think you can respect a sport bike enough to not be a squid on
> it, and slowly test your limits (never mind those of the bike) then
> I'd say your choice isn't a bad one.  If you answered "Yes" to the
> second part of the question, then I would advise spending as little as
> possible -- chances are you won't be around too long to appreciate
> what you're riding.

Hell, if you answer yes to the second one, I'd finance and get the
best bike I could buy...

And in response to your question pete, $2000 is an ok price assuming
the bike is in decent condition.  Since it has an aftermarket pipe,
see if the owner rejetted the carbs for it, and it you can get the
stock pipe as well.  You might also want to find out why the pipe was
replaced.  Look for holes drilled in the caliper bolt heads (used for
safety wiring) and other indications of the bike having been raced.
If it has, it's not necessarily bad, I'd just use it as a check on the
owner's integrity.

And for Christ's sake take it easy while you're learning.  That bike
has enough power, stability, and braking to get you far over the edge
before you realize it.  You'll be fine as long as you are carefull and
think about what you're doing.

Have Fun!!!

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		DoD #813	|
| ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu		AMA/CCS AM #811		AMA #700560	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '78 KM100 (commute-in-snow)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, exhaust, etc...  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jdk@cs.brown.edu (Jennet Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Harley 883 owners, I need your opinions!!!
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:39:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.132006.25909@cs.wayne.edu> pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
>In article <6503@shodha.enet.dec.com> kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook) writes:
>>
>>
>>In article <4558@unccvax.uncc.edu>, mpd@unccvax.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis)
>>>
>>>   An '883' would require some slight mods to make me totally happy though.  I
>>>
>> [Tretise on building a whole 'nother bike deleted]
>
>Now waitamint.  I've been convinced since my visit with the Harley Man
>of the Cayman Islands (if you go, *do* see him, he lives about 3 miles 
>from the edge of town) that my first bike over 400cc's would be a
>Harley.  But now I see this laundry list of mods and a whole bunch of
>folks telling him this is a good *start*?!?!?  Harley's don't come
>complete from the factory?  Please folks, tell me it ain't so!  If I
>wanted to spend more time working on the bike than riding I'd buy a Brit
>bike....
>-- 
>"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
>	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk

What?  As an owner of an 1989 883 I can't understand what you mean.
From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Meta-flame, etc...
Summary: ask the filipinos
Keywords: steel mines
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:42:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Apr3.180352.26329@chesapeake.ads.com>, wbrooks@chesapeake.ads.com (Bill Brooks) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.143517.2204@cs.wayne.edu> pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood) writes:
> >Steel?  When did Japan open steel mines?  Or are you talking about the
> 
> Didn't you know?  Japan has been mining steel since the 1700's....

	I'm not sure how this thread got started, or what it's relevance
	is to motorcycles (beyond the obvious "rice" relationship), but ...

	When I was a kid, about 14 years old, I lived in the
	Philippines.  This was somewhat after the end of the war, and
	just shortly after the "huk rebellion" ( a mini-Viet Nam, which,
	by the way, we nominally "won").  Anyhow, the Japanese had lost
	a fleet-load of ships, sunk in Manila Bay when McArthur finally
	fulfilled his promise to return.  In 1955 or 1956, the Japanese
	negotiated with the Philippine (read American) government to
	"clean out" the bay, scavange all the rusting junk sitting in
	the shallow waters of the bay.  Took them a long time to cut a
	deal, but in the end, the filipinos finally accepted a ton of
	bribes and grants from the Japanese (millions of bucks, all
	provided by the American taxpayer in the form of American aid
	to the emperor) and the work began.

	It was a verrrrrry unpopular decision, because the Japanese were
	not held in high regard by the locals due to the brutality of
	the Japanese forces during the occupation.  Have you ever heard
	of the forced prisoner march across the Bataan Peninsula?  It was
	called the "death march", and many thousands of prisoners of war
	were starved, worked, beaten, hacked, and shot to death by their
	captors, the Japanese, during that march.  It was one of the mose
	infamous war-crimes in history, ranking right up there with the
	Allied bombing of Dresden.  Anyhow, the filipinos, even
	those who had never ridden a motorcycle, hated the Japanese with
	abiding passion.  The job of clearing the bay cost many a Japanese
	his/her life, despite the constant activity of a large marine guard
	set to protect the workers; needless to say, the line for shore-
	leave was usually short.

	But, in the end, the bay was cleared, and the Japanese went home
	bearing many, many thousands of tons of rusty steel.  Cheap.

-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer (DoD #0002)