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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:25:10 GMT

In <wiegand.714236856@lido16> wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand) writes:

>mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>Let's be explicit about this.  It makes sense FROM THE MICROSOFT END,
>>if there is no regard for the USER (you remember him -- the guy who
>>buys the stuff?).

>I don't agree. It makes sense for me too. The software manufacturer isn't
>just going to absorbe the cost of shipping all those floppies. If the
>floppies cost more then they will charge more for the software. The
>CD-ROM drive is a one time cost versus paying a little extra for every
>program you buy. If a number of venders start supporting CD-ROM distribution
>us users could actually save money. Plus the CD-ROMs are much easier for
>me to store than a stack of 20 floppies. Maybe you have lots of free
>room to store all those stupid floppies, but I don't.

Well, take a little bit of that money you would have spent on a CD
drive and buy something really high-tech -- like a BOX.  Now you have
room to store them, and when you scratch the software that's on them
you can reuse them.  Hey, all this and ecologically sound with
recycling, too!


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: CD ROMS (was: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2)
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:17:04 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <1992Aug21.155757.4633@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes:
>CD-ROM drive prices have dropped, but only on 'old-technology' drives while
>the prices of new technology remain high.  The CD-ROM standard is still
>very fluid, and no one wants to sink $500 into a drive that will be 
>obsolete in 1-2 years.

I'd be _very_ pleased if the computer equipment I've purchased had an
obsolescence cycle as long as 1-2 years!  I bought a PowerBook 140 last
month, and the bloody thing was obsolete before the ink was dry on the
check.  The morning I picked the computer up from the store, the issue of
MacWeek announcing the PowerBook 145 was delivered to my office.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:22:56 GMT

In <wiegand.714236340@lido16> wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand) writes:

Well, let's do a few comparisons here, shall we?

>Yes most machines had floppy drives - but they were low-density drives.
>A lot of people were pissed off when software started shipping on high
>density disks and they had to buy new floppy drives. 

The only time I saw software ship on high-density floppies only, it
either came with a card to get the other media or it was specific to
machines that were known to ship with high density drives.

Let's examine.  By the time software started shipping on high-density
only, the overwhelming majority of machines already had these drives
(because they were shipped with them).  The majority (or even a very
large minority) of machines do NOT have CD drives, however.

>By your logic
>everything should be shipped on single sided - single density disks just
>so everyone can load the software no matter how out-of-date their system is.

It should until the 'standard' machine has a high density drive.  It
not only should, in large part it DID.

>Its a fact of life in the PC business that state of the art changes every
>few years. If you can't handle the change maybe you should look into
>finding another job.

Or a different environment, while I watch NT splash flaming into the
countryside. 


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From: rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Winspeed Drivers Discontinued
Summary: NOT!
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:21:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug30.170634.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> Well, bad news guys. It appears those of us who were looking
> to buy the WinSpeed drivers from Panacea to speed windows performance
> are out of luck.
> I called CompUsa here in good Ole' Kansas City and was told the drivers
> are being discontinued! Too bad cause I had heard some good things about
> them. Can anybody get any news on these, or can still get ahold of them?

	I just called Panacea and asked them about this.  They suggested
that maybe CompUSA is dropping them.  Panacea is readying another release
soon (about a month).  I was concerned there for a moment because I'm
recommending WinSpeed be used for one of my projects.

	Panacea can be reached at 800-729-7420 or 603-437-5022.  I have
no affilation - just an End User.

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From: s913578@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Fantom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Incorrect System version
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:05:53 GMT

As the topic says i've got trouble with 'incorrect system version'
errors.  I'm running windows 3.1, the errors occur when trying
to run XTGOLD 2.5 and the Borland Make utility (3.1 also).

H/W being used is a 386 running MSDOS 5

Anybody out there with any hints on what's going on?
Windows tells me to rerun the setup, well i've totally reinstalled
it and the errors arre still there!!!

Thanks
   James
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Subject: Re: Strange fractured ascii characters
Originator: dspascha@c00131-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:00:45 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.010537.8078@panix.com>, paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
|> Path: taco!gatech!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!rutgers!cmcl2!panix!paul
|> From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
|> Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
|> Subject: Strange fractured ascii characters
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep3.010537.8078@panix.com>
|> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:05:37 GMT+5:00
|> Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
|> Lines: 28
|> 
|> 
|>  Every once and awhile my full screen dos session or full screen q-modem
|> session will get cracked ascii characters on the tops of 0's R's and any
|> character that has a curve in that part of the character.
|> 
|>  I'll also get lines across the entire horizontal plane on each row. The
|> lines are broken-- made up of dashes.
|> 
|>  I've tried various memory locks and unlocks in the pifs. Exiting the
|> program and reloading solves the problem. The programs work fine with
|> the screen disruptions but I was wondering if anyone knows what it could
|> be that's causing this strange pheonomena?
|> 
|>  I put in an ati 8514/ultra about a month ago but I recall having this
|> problem before that. I never had this problem with win3.0 so I am assuming
|> it is a 3.1 bug.     
|> 
|>  I'm running it all on a ps/2 model 70 with 8meg ram.
|> 
|>  Anyone have any ideas? Is this puzzle an easy one to solve?
|> 
|>  ttyl;paul
|> 
|> -- 
|> *******************************************************************
|> paul@panix.com                                    COMPULITE GRAPHICS
|> Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
|> ********************************************************************
|> 

Hi.  I have also recently started having the same problem with my Tseng ET4000-
based Pixel VGA card, except I'm running Windows 3.0!  I found that toggling
the DOS app between windowed and full screen fixes the problem.  However, is it
true that Windows 3.1 no longer supports Alt-Enter to do this?

Tschuess,
David Paschal
From: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: ..SMARTDRV vs Built-in Cache, built-in is faster!....
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:57:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095FF7E.7BED5000
Reply-To: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <1992Aug22.171940.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, eputnam@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>In article <0095F799.22B17580@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>> 
>>     Hi Folks:
>> 	Finally I got 4M ram on my DTC SCSI card and I ran the
>> 	smartdrv vs. buitl-in cache experiment again. And yes,
>> 	built-in cache is faster than the smartdrv cache!
>
|>My only questions are:  1)How much RAM do you have and 2)Is your machine
|>ISA/EISA/MC?  The reason I ask about memory is that if you are converting

	For the above mentioned test I used an EISA machine with
	32bit DTC controller. Diamond speedstar (w/1MB) 16bit
	video card driving a 17" 1024x768 monitor. The machine
	has 16MB RAM w/256K external cache (486DX2 @64MHz).

|>a large portion of your RAM to cache then you could see a lower performance
|>due to swapping to the drive during the startup.  If your machine is an ISA,
|>then a memory cache should be faster than a hardware cache just because it
|>doesn't have to transmit through the bus (major slowdown on ISA).
|>
|>Personally, I have a Promise Tech controller card with 8 Meg of RAM controlling
|>a Maxtor 7120A IDE drive and a 1 Meg PC-Cache drive cache.  I timed how long
|>it takes to start Windows 3.1 and found no difference between no software
|>cache and software cache.  I do however notice the difference when I am
|>working with moderate sized files and find the software cache very nice to
|>have.  Of course, this doesn't apply to OS/2 where more free memory is better
|>than more cache, but that is another story.
|>
|>Almost forgot...  My machine is an ISA 386DX-25 with 8 Meg of RAM.

	Just for clarification, does your machine has 8Meg on
	the controller + 8 Meg RAM? 
	In that case 3 tests have to be run.

	1. Disable RAM on the controller (i.e., you have to pull
	   them off!). Now load smartdrv and note the time.
	2. Enable the controller RAM, then note the loading time.
	3. Disable smartdrv and now note the loading time once more.

The third option (i.e., Controller RAM enabled and smartdrv not
	loaded) should be the fastest, regardless of whether the 
	machine is ISA or EISA.

-Anis, Marquette University.
From: VVAATAJA@finabo.abo.fi (Veikko V{{t{j{ Tkkk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: WIN3.1 + stacker + dos-programs don't work together??
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:44:14 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20


  I wanted to 'double my disk capasity' on an IBM PS/2 model 70 but all I 
got was a pile of problems... I'm using the computer with MS-Windows 3.1 and
DOS 5.0. With dos everything works fine, but when I try to start a dos-
program from windows I just get a 'cannot start application' or 'this
program has violated system integrity due to an invalid general protection
fault...' error or the whole thing gets locked.

  I have tried programs like Paradox(works mainly ok), Symphony(sometimes
gets locked), WordPerfect(Finnish version works ok, UK version gives an
error every time), Harvard Graphics(works mainly ok, sometimes gives an error).
There seems to be no logic, some programs just works more often than the
others...

  The hard disk is 58 MB with two partitions, C:45 MB and D:13 MB. C-drive
is stacked.

  If you have some ideas or an answer,... MAIL ME!

  Veke
  vvaataja@finabo.abo.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans)
Subject: Re: HELP! 256 color for Windows 3.1???
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:18:52 GMT

ahmad@norooz.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ahmad Alavi) writes:

>I do not agree. I have a 1MB card (Trident) and still have the same problem.
>I can use Trident W3.0 disk and install 800X600 256 color driver. But
>if I use any 256 color from windows 3.1 setup I get the blank screen.

Friends and I have come to the conclusion that running setup from INSIDE
Windows 3.1 simply _DOES NOT WORK_ when at least, changing video drivers.
Use setup from DOS.. itshould work.. works for me.. I just put the "new" 
640x480x256 color drivers (5-29-92) TVGA drivers in last week.. are there
newer ones??

>-----------------------------
>Ahmad Alavi
>Intergraph Corporation
>ahmad@norooz.b17a.ingr.com
>FAX (205)730-7296
>-----------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson)
Subject: telnet from windows
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:10:44 GMT

I'm sure this is a FAQ - but I need to ask anyway....

How can I setup windows so that it doesn't hang when I try to telnet
from a DOS shell? Email answers would be appreciated... thanks

	Carol Gibson



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Department of Electrical Engineering		/     said Max,
University of Technology, Sydney, Australia	/  "Let the Wild 
carol@ee.uts.edu.au				/     Rumpus start!"    
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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: New ATI drivers
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:42:51 CDT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

  ATI has newer drivers out, released at the end of July. I'm not fully
certain just what was fixed. The only change I noticed is that the
640x480x32K driver now reports 32767 instead of 32768 colors (ALOT of
programs had problems with that.) Also, the problem with some fonts coming
out too big has been fixed. (may be related to the 32767/32768 thing.)

 Also, the 32K modes have regular and NTSC modes. I have no idea what they
are for, unless ATI is coming out with a new board!

 It also includes a driver for the XL24 to run at 640x480x16M. There is
also a new VDD driver.

  I do not have FTP, so can't upload it to cica or similar places. It is
available on my BBS.

  The version number reported at startup is 3.10.08.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Changing Postscript font names?
Keywords: Postscript, ATM, font
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:18:15 GMT

d89os@efd.lth.se (Ola Sigurdson) writes:

>  I recently got CorelDraw 3.0 with a lot of Postscript type 1 fonts
>(on CD).  They work fine, but for copyright reasons they have funny
>names, like "Switzerland" instead of "Helvetica".

"Helvetica" is a trademarked name.  US Copyright law does not allow a
typeface to be protected, but does allow a vendor to protect the name
under which the typeface is marketed.  Thus "Helvetica", "Helv", "Swiss",
"Switzerland", "Arial", and God knows how many more sans-serif knockoffs
of the old Grotesk typeface family are all the same letterforms.

Similarly, "Times Roman" is a copyrighted name, so we have "TmsRmn", 
"Times", "Times New Roman" and so on usually represent identical
letterforms.

I strongly suspect that every font vendor has an employee whose sole
duty is to think up names for fonts which sound similar to the commonly-
used but trademarked names...and the sillier the better.  From the 
Corel package, for example, one finds:

 Corel        Equivalent
 -----        ----------
New Order     New Yorker
Ottowa        Optima
Palm Springs  Palatino
Penguin       Peingot
Posse         Ponderosa
Technical     Tekton
Fujiyama      Futura

...and so on, _ad_nausiam_.  You get the idea.

Joe Morris / MITRE
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: 35007_321@uwovax.uwo.ca (Gord Nickerson)
Subject: 32 bit disk access drive list? for win 3.1
Organization: SLIS
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:26:18 GMT

In the windows 386 setup there is an option for a permanent disk swapfile.
The manual mentions that some disk support 32 bit disk access bypassing the
BIOS for faster read/writes. However, when i called the local computer shop
and asked if they stocked drives that supported this they didn't know....

questions:

Is this a list of 100-200 meg hard drives that are certified to use 32bit
disk accesses with windows 3.1?  apologies if this is a faq - i looked but
din't see one..

if there is no list - those with disks that DO support this feature can
email me (nickerso@uwovax.uwo.ca) their drive model. I will compile the
list and post...

thanks
g
From: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Larger size than 24x80 for DOS window ?
Date: 3 Sep 92 07:22:29 GMT

hajadi@goofy.csd.sgi.com (Ivan Hajadi) writes:



>is it possible to open DOS windows ( i use norton desktop 2.0 )
>which are larger than 24x80 ?  if i try to strecth the window it
>doesn't seem to allow me.

>i can live with 80 column width, but i want more than 24 rows..


>thanks.
>--

>/* Ivan, hajadi@sgi.com */


Use Norton's utility (ncc?) for increasing the number
of lines to 40 or 50.  It will stretch when
opened as an MSDos window in Windows.

= Mark

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Missing WINA20.386
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:14:29 GMT

In <clangst.714626164@pv1793.vincent.iastate.edu> clangst@iastate.edu (Chris Langston) writes:

>In <713269086snx@zenos2.nsg.com.au> terrym@zenos2.nsg.com.au (Terry McCracken) writes:


>>In article <1992Aug04.145658.9814@convex.com> cowles@convex.com writes:

>>  > 
>>  > I looked on the distribution disks, but wina20.386 does not exist there
>>  > (under that name). I tried to call Microsoft, but when I finally get to
>>  > the menu that says "Push 9 if you want to talk to a technician.", I
>>  > push 9 and get kicked off the system. ???
>>  > 
>>  > How can one tell if one is running in enhanced mode?
>>  > -- 
>>  >      John Cowles        cowles@hydra.convex.com
>>  >                         Convex Computer Corp.  214 497 4375
>>  >                         3000 Waterview Pkwy
>>  >                         Richardson, Tx. 75080
>>  > 

>>My understanding is that wina20.386 is needed so that programs can switch
>>the top address line a20. It must be in the top directory. You can tell 
>>which mode you are in by selecting help in the program manager and then
>>selecting About. This will tell you the mode you are in and the avaible
>>system recources.
>>                                hope this helps
>>                                        Terry

>the top directory of what drive?  The current drive, the drive windows is
>on, the boot drive....?

The boot drive.  There is a flag you can include when you load it to
tell 'everybody' that it is located somewhere else, if you elect to
move it.  Note that this is only necessary if you are running Windows
3.0 and MS-DOS 5.0 (the file comes with DOS 5).  

Apparently MS found it necessary to 'break' something when they did
the DOS 5.0 update; they then fixed the problem in the next release of
Windows.  


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux)
Subject: Re: Need help with multimedia setup
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:08:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.024712.22297@cerberus.ulaval.ca>, NAT@drao.nrc.ca (Natalie Prowse) writes:
> but I am having problems displaying animations or 'mmm' files.  For instance,
> if I run the multimedia Viewer that comes with the microsoft bookshelf (on CD
> rom), everything works fine until I try to look at an animation (in the
> encyclopedia).  Then I get an 'Application Error - Call to Undefined Dynalink'
> and the viewer dies when I hit the close button.  What am I missing?  Someone
> told me I needed to have the SNDBLST.DLL file in my windows directory.  I
> copied it there, and restarted windows, but I am still getting the same error.
> I cannot find any references to 'dynalink's in the manuals...

	DynaLink is the shortened form of Dynamic Link.  An Undefined Dynalink
refers to a call from an application to a function that is supposed to be in a
DLL.  The function is Imported for the application and is supposed to be
Exported in the DLL.  You have a DLL that doesn't export the function that the
application is looking for.

	You might try running exehdr.exe on the application and looking for the
imports and comparing that with the output from running exehdr.exe on the DLL's
to try to find out exactly which function the application is expecting and
can't find.

	You also might want to check what DLL's that the MM Upgrade replaces
and reload the originals to see if that will fix the problem.

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From: danny@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Daniel Clemons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: ps/2 mouse slows win exit
Date: 23 Aug 1992 22:40:15 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Summary: Why is win exit so slow with ps/2 mouse
Keywords: ps/2 mouse

A while back there wasa discusion about ps/2 mouses making win 3.1 slow to exit.I need the setting for the system.ini to make it not try to reset the mouse.
Thanks
danny
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