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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:56:29 EST
From:         V1754G@TEMPLEVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Requirments for patent bar
              15 Dec 1992 21:42:54 GMT from <chapin@SSVAX.GTE.COM>

is the exam itself only administered in wash, dc
or, is it like the LSAT where it will be given several cities??
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From: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray)
Subject: Re: Re Pine
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:46:54 GMT

Regarding the evaluation of Pine posted by F. Scott Ophof 
<ophof@server.uwindsor.ca> I don't have time to respond in detail
right now (I agree with some of the observations; strongly disagree
with others :) but I did want to point out one thing:

There is a bug in F. Scott's network/operating system environment, 
or in the interaction between his and ours, such that when RETURN
is typed, it is being translated into a LINEFEED *before* it is
handed to Pine.  This has very disconcerting results, as Ctl-J
triggers justification/text-flow in the Pine composer.

We've seen this problem between a few flavors of telnet client and
telnet server, but I'm unsure which end is doing the wrong thing.

--
Terry Gray
 University of Washington
  gray@cac.washington.edu
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Original-From: rkh@ucsdev (Bob Halloran)
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:01:46 -0500
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From:         ucsdev!rkh@D1.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: E-mail survey
              survey" (Dec 17,  3:57pm)

On Dec 17,  3:57pm, Richard Alan Schafer <schafer@IS.RICE.EDU> wrote:
> Subject: Re: E-mail survey
> I find it fascinating with all the interest in GUIs and the advances in
> usability that people in the micro world have seen with products like Windows
> and OS/2 interfaces that we're still talking about things like Pine as a
> great leap forward in email for naive users.  Has anyone ever looked into
> some of the packages like Zmail and compared their ease of use to something
> like Pine?  Or is the search for email products typically limited only to
> things which are free and/or completely character-based?
>
> Richard
>-- End of excerpt

We have recently gone through an evaluation of GUI-based cross-platform
mail software.  The offerings right now seem to be CC:Mail and WordPerfect
Office.  Z-Code already has a character-mode DOS package comparable to
their 'fullscreen' mode, and has announced plans for Windows and Mac
clients for 2Q93.

Most of the GUI mail software people in the DOS market seem to be slowly
moving towards supporting Unix clients, but few are there as yet.

If the Windows version of Pegasus comes out soon, it plus Charon might make
a powerful e-mail solution for the non-Unix desktop.

        Bob Halloran
        AT&T Universal Card
        Jacksonville FL         rkh@ucs.att.com

Disclaimer: Not speaking for any part of AT&T, this is purely personal opinion.
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cw-email
Subject: Re: E-mail survey
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:01:44 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Dan Updegrove (updegrove@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU) wrote:
: Jim Ennis asks if anyone has surveyed users re needs/preferences for
: e-mail. We just performed such a survey of our *existing* base of *retail*
: All-in-1 users, with the intention of determining how easy it would be to
: migrate them to our two preferred solutions, Elm and POP. 

Given a choice I'd also look at support for 'pine' as a campus wide
e-mail reader under Unix - it has a very short learning curve,
good support, and good on-line help.

No one that I know of has a functional free calendaring and scheduling
package under Unix, though I suspect there's ones to be bought.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:02:06 EST
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From:         Scott Ophof <ophof@SERVER.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      Re: E-mail survey
              19, 92 5:21 am

On Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:21:12 GMT Terry Gray
 <gray%CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU@TECMTYVM.MTY.ITESM.MX> said:
>In article <BzEv0I.MJ5@rice.edu> schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
>writes:
>>I find it fascinating with all the interest in GUIs and the advances in
>>usability that people in the micro world have seen with products like Windows
>>and OS/2 interfaces that we're still talking about things like Pine as a
>>great leap forward in email for naive users.  Has anyone ever looked into
>>some of the packages like Zmail and compared their ease of use to something
>>like Pine?  Or is the search for email products typically limited only to
>>things which are free and/or completely character-based?

>Richard,
>With respect to user-interface design, Pine should be compared with
>other character-based mailers, not GUI-oriented mailers.  Pine's
>design objectives required that it be character-based.

I would hope that the prime objective was improving ease-of-use,
preferably applied to existing MUAs.  Having said that, it becomes
IMHO moot whether that MUA is GUI- or character-oriented...

Regards.
$$/
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From:         greg_gaither@CSUFRESNO.EDU
Subject:      Human Intervention Needed (fwd)

Forwarded message:
From gregg Thu Dec 17 13:06:11 1992
Subject: Human Intervention Needed
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:06:11 PST
 Processor" at Dec 17, 92 2:47 pm
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Sorry to bother the group with this, but I'm having trouble
unsubscribing from this group.  My job output comes back stating that I
do not exist in the listserv database.

I do.  But would like not to.  Any help would be appreciated.

greg_gaither@csufresno.edu
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 13:32:30 EST
From: Jim Ennis <JIM@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cw-email
Subject: Re: E-mail survey

I would like to get a copy of your survey and the paper that you
presented at CAUSE.

Jim
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:41:07 EST
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From:         Jim Ennis <JIM@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Campus Wide Email List

Hi,

  We are currently evaluating the requirements/need for a campus wide
email system.  Has anyone sent a survey to their users and asked for their
feedback in what they would like to see/use in an email system.  Has anyone
evaluatated why 'normal' users would want access to email?

If you have any survey questions copies, I would like to get a copy of
them.  We are kinda of stuck on how to phrase/style our survey.

Thanks in advance,
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:14:45 -0600
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From:         Peter Scott U Sask Library Systems Dept <scottp@JESTER.USASK.CA>
Subject:      Re: E-mail survey

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, Edward Vielmetti wrote:

> Dan Updegrove (updegrove@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU) wrote:
> : Jim Ennis asks if anyone has surveyed users re needs/preferences for
> : e-mail. We just performed such a survey of our *existing* base of *retail*
> : All-in-1 users, with the intention of determining how easy it would be to
> : migrate them to our two preferred solutions, Elm and POP.
>
> Given a choice I'd also look at support for 'pine' as a campus wide
> e-mail reader under Unix - it has a very short learning curve,
> good support, and good on-line help.

I agree with Ed. I've just been training some English faculty in e-mail,
and we chose to have them use Pine. Many of them had already used Elm and
VAX Mail, and were completely frustrated! For your information there is a
Pine demonstration on the Internet which anyone can try. Here are the details:

          PINE Mailer Demonstration (University of Washington)

Telnet DEMO.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU or 128.95.112.1
login: pinedemo

Here, an almost full-featured version of the Pine mailer is available for
your evaluation.  Mail can be sent from this account, but only if it is
addressed solely to this account:
        pinedemo@cac.washington.edu

       PINE 3.05       MAIN MENU       Folder:(CLOSED)  0 Messages


      ?   HELP        - Get help using Pine
      C   COMPOSE     - Compose and send a message
      I   MAIL INDEX  - Read mail in current folder
      F   FOLDERS     - Open a different mail folder
      A   ADDRESSES   - Update your address book
      O   OTHER       - Use other functions
      Q   QUIT        - Exit the Pine mail program

Note: In Pine 3.0 we are encouraging folks to use the MAIL INDEX to read
mail instead of VIEW MAIL, so it is no longer on the main menu. Once in
the mail index, it is available as usual as the "V" command.
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:01:27 EST
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From:         Scott Ophof <ophof@SERVER.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      Re: Re Pine
              19, 92 5:46 am

On Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:46:54 GMT Terry Gray
 <gray%CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU@TECMTYVM.MTY.ITESM.MX> said:
>Regarding the evaluation of Pine posted by F. Scott Ophof
><ophof@server.uwindsor.ca> I don't have time to respond in detail
>right now (I agree with some of the observations; strongly disagree
>with others :) but I did want to point out one thing:

In general I wish to make clear that my interest is in seeing
more ergonomics applied to currently available products, to see them
become better and easier to use.
Like.. what about a version of "elm" which is "REXX-aware"?
Or where a MUA accepts MUA-specific commands from within whatever
editor or file-manager the user prefers.
Or where a MUA is enhanced so it will cooperate with people used to
other opsyses than that for which the MUA was originally designed.

Terry, could you please point out those (dis)agreements (in private
mail, if you prefer?  I'm very much interested!


>There is a bug in F. Scott's network/operating system environment,
>or in the interaction between his and ours, such that when RETURN
>is typed, it is being translated into a LINEFEED *before* it is
>handed to Pine.  This has very disconcerting results, as Ctl-J
>triggers justification/text-flow in the Pine composer.

>We've seen this problem between a few flavors of telnet client and
>telnet server, but I'm unsure which end is doing the wrong thing.

Thanks for mentioning this point.  Since Ctl-M on my PC doesn't seem
to activate the correct response on the Unix systems I've had the
chance to work on, I've set my RETURN key to Ctl-J.  And I don't
know enough of Unix to determine the correct solution...  :-(


Regards, and may your holidays be enjoyable.
$$/

--------------------------------------------------------------
One of the main bugs in Unix is the state of its "man pages"...
From: Nico.deKoo@RC.TUDELFT.NL (N.P. de Koo)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cw-email
Subject: Re: E-mail survey
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:29:24 GMT
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Dan Updegrove,
Please disseminate your presentation on consensus on e-mail.
Nico de Koo
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:45:01 -0500
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From:         Dan Updegrove <updegrove@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: E-mail survey

Jim Ennis asks if anyone has surveyed users re needs/preferences for
e-mail. We just performed such a survey of our *existing* base of *retail*
All-in-1 users, with the intention of determining how easy it would be to
migrate them to our two preferred solutions, Elm and POP. Of particular
interest to us was
(a) their use of nicknames and distribution lists
(b) use of uploading and downloading features we added years ago
(c) use of the built-in calendar management.

Data haven't been analyzed yet, but we're most willing to share the survey
instrument.

Regards,
Dan Updegrove
Associate Vice Provost
U of Pennsylvania

P.S. Two colleagues and I just presented a "paper" at CAUSE92 on the
process we followed for achieving campus-wide consensus on e-mail
directions. We can make this available as well.
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From: schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
Subject: Re:      Re: E-mail survey
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:57:53 GMT

I find it fascinating with all the interest in GUIs and the advances in
usability that people in the micro world have seen with products like Windows
and OS/2 interfaces that we're still talking about things like Pine as a 
great leap forward in email for naive users.  Has anyone ever looked into
some of the packages like Zmail and compared their ease of use to something
like Pine?  Or is the search for email products typically limited only to
things which are free and/or completely character-based?

-- 
Richard
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From: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray)
Subject: Re:      Re: E-mail survey
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:21:12 GMT

In article <BzEv0I.MJ5@rice.edu> schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer) writes:
>I find it fascinating with all the interest in GUIs and the advances in
>usability that people in the micro world have seen with products like Windows
>and OS/2 interfaces that we're still talking about things like Pine as a 
>great leap forward in email for naive users.  Has anyone ever looked into
>some of the packages like Zmail and compared their ease of use to something
>like Pine?  Or is the search for email products typically limited only to
>things which are free and/or completely character-based?

Richard,
With respect to user-interface design, Pine should be compared with
other character-based mailers, not GUI-oriented mailers.  Pine's 
design objectives required that it be character-based.

The problem with most of the extant point-and-click mailers is that they
don't yet support protocols that are *critical* to us, namely MIME
and IMAP.  Having global interoperability for multipart/multimedia
mail and using a robust client-server access model are much higher
priorities for us than being able to use a mouse.

That doesn't mean we wouldn't welcome mailers with terrific GUIs, as
long as they meet those infrastructure requirements.  In fact, last
I heard, the ISA product mentioned by another poster uses a fair amount
of Pine/C-client code under the covers, and I can't wait to see 
the results.

--
Terry Gray
 University of Washington
  gray@cac.washington.edu
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:20:15 -0500
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From:         "John A. Johnston" <johnj@WELCHLAB.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: E-mail survey

 >Jim Ennis asks if anyone has surveyed users re needs/preferences for
 >e-mail. We just performed such a survey of our *existing* base of *retail*
 >All-in-1 users, with the intention of determining how easy it would be to
 >migrate them to our two preferred solutions, Elm and POP. Of particular
 >interest to us was
 >(a) their use of nicknames and distribution lists
 >(b) use of uploading and downloading features we added years ago
 >(c) use of the built-in calendar management.

This sounds interesting ...

 >P.S. Two colleagues and I just presented a "paper" at CAUSE92 on the
 >process we followed for achieving campus-wide consensus on e-mail
 >directions. We can make this available as well.

This sounds interesting also!  I'm interested in reading a copy of
both items, as we are facing what could be considered similar
problems here, especially the second paper.

Thank you,
-johnj

John Johnston
Systems Administrator
Johns Hopkins University
School of Medicine
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:58:19 EST
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From:         Dave Darnell <darnelld@GVSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: E-mail survey

Richard,

At Grand Valley State University (Grand Rapids, Michigan), we have been using
cc:Mail (owned by Lotus) for the last few years.  We use both the DOS version
and the Windows version.  The Windows version sports a GUI level similar to
other Windows applications.  It is by no means free.

I have never seen Pine, so I cannot offer a comparison.  cc:Mail offers quite
a bit of functionality and has worked out very well for us.

Dave
Darnelld@GVSU.EDU
=============================================================================
I find it fascinating with all the interest in GUIs and the advances in
usability that people in the micro world have seen with products like Windows
and OS/2 interfaces that we're still talking about things like Pine as a great
leap forward in email for naive users.  Has anyone ever looked into some of
the packages like Zmail and compared their ease of use to something like Pine?
 Or is the search for email products typically limited only to things which
are free and/or completely character-based?

--
Richard
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From:         Dominique Dumas <BRUCH@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Subject:      Problem with the EBS Paris
Comments: To: pits@princeton.edu

Since saturday 12th of December the EBS installed at PARIS doesn't work.
No traffic go outside of France.
At the EARN level, all the international links from FRMOP11 using EBONE
are down.
RENATER and France Telecom are informed.
Regards,
Dominique
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Subject:      LSUVM down due to disk problem
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 Due to required HDA  change on the SYSRES  volume, LSUVM will be  down
 until probably late this afternoon, 12/14/92.  Directly affected nodes
 are:  RICEVM1, TCSVM, LSUMVS.
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Problem Description:

        Line failure from Amsterdam to Geneva

Affected:

        IP traffic from Amsterdam to Cern will be rerouted via
        Stockholm.
        The default route from Amsterdam-EBS1 via
        Cern to NSFnet will be rerouted via Stockholm.


Actions:

        Dutch PTT is informed and will solve the problem.
        Trouble ticket number from Dutch PTT 37872

        Dec 12, 22:00
        According to Dutch PTT there is a major problem in Germany
        that affects i.a the connection Amsterdam-Zurich.
        Affected links will be rerouted.

Time to fix:

        unknown

Fix:

        Problem solved.
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Problem Description:

        Line failure from Amsterdam to Geneva

Affected:

        IP traffic from Amsterdam to Cern will be rerouted via
        Stockholm.
        The default route from Amsterdam-EBS1 via
        Cern to NSFnet will be rerouted via Stockholm.


Actions:

        Dutch PTT is informed and will solve the problem.
        Trouble ticket number from Dutch PTT 37872


Time to fix:

        unknown

Fix:


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 Henk Steenman
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Subject:      SUVM VMNET Links down 12/13 08:00 - 09:00 EST

An equipment move on 12/13 will disrupt the VMNET links on SUVM between
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Subject:      Link ARIZONA down 12/11 11:30 - 16:30
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Node ARIZONA was up and down (mostly down) on 12/11/92 from 11:30 - 16:30 MST
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Brent Sessions               Telephone:  602-621-5529
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