HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smduke@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov (Aparajit Mahajan)
Subject: 486 CPU Intel or Cyrix?
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:12:45 GMT

I am trying to buy a 486 based system and when I started looking at
various mail-order places, I found out that Cyrix is now making 486
chips too. Systems based on Cyrix chip instead of Intel chip are about
100-200 $ cheaper. Does anyone know about reliability of Cyrix chips 
compared to Intel chips and compatibility for other software and hardware?
Is it worth buying a Cyrix based machine instead of Intel based to save 
100-200$?

Also when I talked to a few mail order places, almost everyone was
quoting 100-200$ more than their advertised price in computer shopper
(november 1992), saying that CPU and memory prices have gone up in last
2 weeks. Is it really true or these guys are just trying to get as much
as they can and advertise a low price just to get calls from customers
like those camera and video mail order places do?

If anyone has anything to say on this please let me know. Thanks.

Aparajit Mahajan
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: bmyers@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (B.Myers)
Subject: Re: 4x9 SIMMS
Organization: Radford University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.165138.23028@cs.odu.edu> imbri_m@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Neuron Basher!) writes:
>
>Does anyone know what 4x9 Simms <60-70ns> are going for right now?
>

$159 US dollars a piece.

--
-- 
Brandon Myers
bmyers@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu
Xref: sparky misc.forsale.computers.d:332 misc.wanted:9644
From: chrielli@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Chris Ellington)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d,misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED:  INFO about SVGA 17" monitor
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:02:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

I am currently considering buying a 17" flatscreen, color monitor.
I like Sony, but cannot afford it.  If anyone has a
recommendation, or you are selling one, please reply to this
account.  Note:  I _really_ would like a 20", but I for sure don't
have $2000 to spend on it.  Any information here would be nice
though.

Thanks in advance,

--
Chris Ellington
Ball State University
chrielli@bsu-cs.bsu.edu 
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (YOGI *is* N.KROENERT)
Subject: What should I pay???
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:54:10 GMT


    Hi...
        I recently posted a request for a 386dx 30 or 40 motherboard... I have
        bee e-mailed a number of responses, but all of them are saying "Make
        Me An Offer" type of think. I, however, have no Idea what I should be
        offering for it...
            Here's what I'm after...
                386dx 33 or 40 w/ cache,
                387 33 Co-processor

                Memory optional...

            So, how much should I be paying???
            (Taking into consideration I live in victoria, australia...)

        Thanx :-)

     ***************************************************************************
    * Nathan Kroenert(YOGI).            * "Where the women are fast,"         *
   * Monash University Gippsland.      *   "And the BUNDYS Kick ass,"        *
  * s1070619@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au   *     "At the NUDI BAR!!!" -Al, M-W-C *
 * {[Errors In My Preaching Aren't A Sign Of Stupidity, Just Carelessness]}*
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: irc_kd@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: :: INQUIRY ABOUT CYRIX 486DX33 ::
Organization: Clark University
Date: 13 NOV 92 03:26:54 GMT

I would like to know, if you have any experience with it. I am considering
buying MotherBoard with Cyrix Processor - 486DLC or 486DX33MHz.

        - Kamal Desai
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: moy@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Howard Moy)
Subject: EPS Technologies or Comtrade Int'l Anyone?
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:56:03 GMT


Hi-

I'm considering buying a 486DX 33Mhz local bus system from
EPS Technologies or Contrade Int'l.  I would appreciate any comments
good or bad about these companies.  How reliable are the machines,
tech suport, etc; any and all comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance-

Howard

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
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!			     (608) 255-6379				      !	
!		      Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison			      !
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From: herpst@b56vxg.kodak.com (dan herpst)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Looking for info on BUDGET COMPUTERS
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'm looking for anyone who has dealt with 
Budget Computer from Ashland Ma.
I saw their ad in the November PC Sources
magazine on pg 474-475.
Their 486/33dx notebook for $2395 is very
impressive and wondering if this is a 
trustworth company??

Thanks in advance....

----------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Herpst
Tobin & Associates
716-588-4973
----------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: moy@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Howard Moy)
Subject: Thanks to responses of EPS/COMTRADE info
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:33:56 GMT


Thanks to those who posted responses to my request of
comments about Comtrade Int'l and EPS Technologies.


Thanx-

Howard

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!			     (608) 255-6379				      !	
!		      Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison			      !
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich)
Subject: Suns
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:34:37 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
Distribution: misc


Hello.

What is the current price people are selling sun 4/110s for?  What
about the color or mono monitor on one?  

What about a sun 3/50?

Please send me figures in email...

Scott
From: ted@helios.UCSC.EDU (Ted Cantrall)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: CFD: public display of piracy
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:31:07 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
Distribution: misc
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

In article <sheldon.721342177@pv1417.vincent.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
->In <POLLACK.92Nov9135541@dendrite.cis.ohio-state.edu> pollack@dendrite.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jordan B Pollack) writes:
->
->>How about when someone sells old software without manuals or old
->>versions which have been upgraded...
-> As far as selling older versions of software.  I don't care about this,
->and it's not a violation of copyright law.  It's a legal copy.
The licence agreement with *most* software prohibits selling or giving
older versions. The licence agreement allows the purchaser to have *one* copy
of the software. Once you get an upgrade, you no longer "own" the older
version. You dont buy the software, you buy licence to use one copy.
Upgrades are not a new licence for a new copy.
->
->I'm kind of selfish, I feel my wallet is much more important than
->the wallet of some software company.
I'm not accusing Steve of anything since I don't know him or anything
about what he has done, (or not done) but attitudes similar to this lead
people to put their financial desires ahead of the law and themselves
outside of the law.
The policing of others will not be done by any of us, but we will all feel
the results of widespread lawlessness. We all need to examine our hearts
(and our hard disks) and vote for an orderly, lawfull society by keeping
our own reputations above reproach.
				-ted-

----------------------------Univ Calif @ Santa Cruz----------------------------
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W (408)459-2110     |Lord require of you but to do justice and to love kindness
H (408)423-2444     |and to walk humbly with your God?" Micah 6:8 (RSV)
From: neilfp@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Neil F. Palumbo)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: Need reccomendation for a SVGA monitor!
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:27:34 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Mikeey Jean Lin (mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
: Hi all,
: 
: 	My brother is thinking about getting a SVGA monitor for his
: 386-40 DX computer.(upgraded from 286-12) He needs a good monitor to 
: do some CAD work for his job. He currently owns a 256K VGA card and a 
: paper-white Monocrome VGA monitor. (need something better though) We've 
: found some no-brand SVGA monitors (14" NI 1024x768) at around $250-$275. 
: Is there a real difference in quality? Also, do we need to get a better
: VGA card? A friend of mine reccomended getting a Speedstar 24X or Stealth
: Card. By the way, we're looing to spend about $400 for the minitor and 
: card. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
: 
: 						    Mikeey
: 					mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
: 
: 
: PS If you know of any place that offers a good deal for SVGA monitor and 
:    Card, please let me know. Thanks again!


LOOK IN COMPUTER SHOPPER MAGAZINE. PLENTY OF DEALS IN THERE. FOR CAD WORK
14 INCH MONITORS ARE TOO SMALL BUT FOR $400 YOU WON'T FIND ANYTHING
LARGER.
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: BMSLIB@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Re: : Boca Research 14.4Kb V32, V32bis, V42, V42bis Faxmodem - $200
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:48:34 GMT

Odd conversation here.  I believe the fellow said it didn't work on
his EISA machine because of bus speed problems.  Quite believable ---
someone should tell BOCA about it.
Also, the prize (according to CLARINET) goes to TriState who sell it
new for $199 plus $8.95 (ship/handling) @ 800-433-5199.
P.S. here is conversation under comp.dcom.modem of interest ---
Grp comp.dcom.modems                 available: 15563 - 15796 unread: 231
article 15702           8-NOV-1992 08:11:24.64
From: heinrich@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter Heinricher)
Subject: INFO NEEDED:  HD for 512K
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:32:27 GMT


Looking for information:

Is it possible to install an internal HD on a Mac 512K?
What external HDs will go with a 512KE?

What is a good price on a used 20-, 40-MB HD?

Thanks in advance,

Pete
email heinrich@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: How to avoid getting jipped???
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:13:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.BxHFqw.ILG
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

John C. Brown <John.C.Brown@williams.edu> writes:
>For those of us who are newcomers to this, could someone tell me how one
>avoids getting stuck with bad merchandise? For example, what happens if
>you get something via UPS-COD, plug it in the next day, and find out that
>it doesnt work? Does UPS pick up the package and give you your money
>back, or do you have to work it out with the shipper? ...
*----
There is no real protection.  Hopefully most individuals have enough
integrity not to cheat their customers.  I've known local people who
sold defective merchandise or broke people's computers during memory
upgrades, so even restricting yourself to local sales isn't a guarantee.

COD is no protection for the buyer at all.  You are not allowed to inspect
the merchandise until you've paid for it.  

UPS will not insure used equipment for operation (and they will give you
a very hard time covering loss).  They generally won't even consider your
claim unless you point out obvious shipping damage when the package is
delivered (they aren't responsible for damage due to inadequate packaging
which might not be obvious from the outside).  I noticed an individual
selling a large ESDI disk drive, which he "guaranteed" - he said that
if it didn't work on arrival, make your claim with UPS.  That sounds like
an invitation to buy an expensive piece of scrap metal to me.

I can't warrant used merchandise that I sell, and I can't guarantee that it
will work in YOUR system, and I can't guarantee that you will install or
use it correctly.  But I'm always willing to consider a refund within a
reasonable period of time (like a week maximum, shipping both ways at
your expense) if you have unanticipated problems.  Needless to say, I
don't misrepresent the condition of my merchandise.  

For what it's worth, all of my net deals, buying and selling, have been
satisfactory to both parties thus far.  I've had two people reneg on deals
that had already been finalized, both local!

--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: ma90alb@brunel.ac.uk (Ashley L Brandwood)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: RFI:what constitutes a "buisness" posting?
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:27:50 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov wrote:
: 
:   What constitutes a BUSINESS on the net?  An example I'm hunting for 
: memory (4 meg simms) around here in Dallas. Now say I come across a
: supplier in straits and needs unload a bunch of memory. Oh say $10,000
: to $20,000. I buy the lot to get this great price per unit. Well I
: don't need this much memory so I post on the net to help get rid of it.
: I'd mark it up 5% or so & postit. Would selling this much memory
: be flamed legitimately? 
: 
: Kris

That would depend on how many you actually bought, how many you are selling, And at what price you bought/sold them at.

Ashley.

(PS if cheap enough I would probably buy some)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: newark@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (antonio.cruz)
Subject: identify this device
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:07:28 GMT

Excuse me if I placed this message in the wrong news group.

My co-worker found this device in her desk. Can any one
tell me what it is?

The device is on a blue 2" by 1 3/4" board. On this board, the 
imprint "W.ALLEN ASSOC. C 1988" is placed on the "back" where
all the circuit wires (traces) are. On the front, a  (1.) chip (located
on left of drawing) has logo "MMI" in a rectangle. The numbers "63S281N
and 850IK0T" are stamped next to the logo. A white stick on label
with the letters "WAA/RA" was stuck on top of the logo and numbers.
The other (2.) connector is blue with "DUPONT" on it. This is next to the
first chip mentioned above. This blue connector has 16 wire blue ribbon
cable attached. The ribbon is about 7" long. The other (4.) connector is blue
with 16 pins, made by "T&B/Ansley. A black connector with 16 pins was also
found. This black connector has a soldering on connectors 20-19-16-14-13-12
and 15-10. A (3.) yellow part located next to the blue connector has numbers
"104 M05" on it.

  1      2   3                      4
  V      V   V                      V
|-----------------|
| --    ---- -    |
| ||    |  |      |----------------|--|
| ||    |  |      |----------------|  |
| ||    |  |      |----------------|  |
| __    ____      |----------------|--|
|                 |
|-----------------|


++++
Tony
++++

ajc\@hlwpd.att.com
From: jreid@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Joe Reid)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: CFD: public display of piracy
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:30:32 GMT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

pollack@dendrite.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jordan B Pollack) writes:

>Can we do anything to stop people from trying to inflate the value of
>their used computers by advertising harddisks "full of software" worth
>"thousands of dollars"?  

>We KNOW they are keeping the original software and manuals. 

>How about when someone sells old software without manuals or old
>versions which have been upgraded...

>While I personally would like to redefine software piracy to mean the
>prices charged by software monopolies, for the time being watching all
>these messages go by feels like aiding and abetting.

>Or maybe I'm wrong and its just a free speech issue???


I've sold 2 machine on the net, and had a friend buy one, in all 3 cases
the machines were advertised "hard drive loaded with software."  And in
all 3 cases the original disks and manuals were included.  Now in my 2
cases I was getting rid of a complete system, not an extra one, so it
was to my advantage to be rid of all of the software, but the machine
that my friend bought may not have been, we'll never know.  What pisses
me off more than software pirates is holy and righteous people who
assume that the public is trying to cheat someone (the publisher or the
buyer in this case). 

Moral: don't assume....

-- 
jreid@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
jreid@vtssi.vt.edu
vpcjoe@vtcs1.cs.vt.edu
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From: chunche@pollux.usc.edu (Chun-Che Chen)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: SIMMS for sale
Date: 12 Nov 1992 14:40:49 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

Hi,

I got some SIMMs for sale (six weeks old)
	4 1Mx3 70ns
	4 4Mx9 70ns

Please give a fair offer at chunche@pollux.usc.edu.

Thanks,

Jack Chen
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: ttan@lynx.coe.northeastern.edu (Charles Tan)
Subject: Re: 4x9 SIMMS
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:07:43 GMT

   In article <1992Nov4.165138.23028@cs.odu.edu> imbri_m@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Neuron Basher!) writes:
   >
   >Does anyone know what 4x9 Simms <60-70ns> are going for right now?
   >

>   $159 US dollars a piece.

>   --
>   -- 
>   Brandon Myers
>   bmyers@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu

I called 4 mail order companies today..and the prices range from
$137 - $140.
From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey Jean Lin)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Need reccomendation for a SVGA monitor!
Summary: Upgrade
Keywords: Help!
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:02:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Hi all,

	My brother is thinking about getting a SVGA monitor for his
386-40 DX computer.(upgraded from 286-12) He needs a good monitor to 
do some CAD work for his job. He currently owns a 256K VGA card and a 
paper-white Monocrome VGA monitor. (need something better though) We've 
found some no-brand SVGA monitors (14" NI 1024x768) at around $250-$275. 
Is there a real difference in quality? Also, do we need to get a better
VGA card? A friend of mine reccomended getting a Speedstar 24X or Stealth
Card. By the way, we're looing to spend about $400 for the minitor and 
card. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

						    Mikeey
					mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu


PS If you know of any place that offers a good deal for SVGA monitor and 
   Card, please let me know. Thanks again!
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: u931004@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (u931004)
Subject:    --->>>  wordperfect 5.1 for windows   <<<---
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:53:52 GMT


This is not an upgrade but the complete set.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^


Suggested value   ==  $499
Retail value      ==  $250

Asking only $150  obo        I will pay shipping   (COD pl add $5)
            ^^^^  ^^^        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Please reply by e-mail
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: jccompto@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES C COMPTON)
Subject: Re: Questions on foreign deals.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:54:46 GMT

In article <0hp1s9g@rpi.edu>, hurnik@aix.rpi.edu (Kevin James Hurni) writes:
|>   I received email from a person in Russia that is interested in a
|> hard drive that I have.  The question is, how should I conduct the
|> deal?  I was thinking of asking him to send me a check (or whatever)
|> first so that I could make sure I received the money and then send
|> him the hard drive.  Anyone have any experience in this type of
|> situation?  Please email me at:  hurnik@rpi.edu
|> --Thanks in advance.

I haven't had any direct experience.  But there are some things that you   
aren't allowed to sell to people in Russia.  I don't think hard drives are
in this catagory though.
From: nickgill@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: WORKSTATION TERMINAL
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:27:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: doc.1992Nov6.212727.450

CIT-101E TERMINAL, KEYBOARD AND MODEM 1200BAUD
MAKE OFFER
NICK
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: hurnik@aix.rpi.edu (Kevin James Hurni)
Subject: Questions on foreign deals.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:54:15 GMT

  I received email from a person in Russia that is interested in a
hard drive that I have.  The question is, how should I conduct the
deal?  I was thinking of asking him to send me a check (or whatever)
first so that I could make sure I received the money and then send
him the hard drive.  Anyone have any experience in this type of
situation?  Please email me at:  hurnik@rpi.edu
--Thanks in advance.
From: nickgill@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: PRINTER FOR SALE CHEAP!
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:30:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: doc.1992Nov6.213001.452

PRINTER FOR SALE
$20 + POSTAGE
NICK
From: moy@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Howard Moy)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: Buying a Syquest: APS or Mirror
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:44:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


Hi-

I'm considering buying a 486DX 33Mhz local bus system from
EPS Technologies or Contrade Int'l.  I would appreciate any comments
good or bad about these companies.  How reliable are the machines,
tech suport, etc; any and all comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance-

Howard

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From: phil@seidel.ucsb.edu (Philip Papadopoulos)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: How to avoid getting jipped???
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:46:34 GMT
Distribution: usa

John.C.Brown@williams.edu (John C. Brown) writes:

>For those of us who are newcomers to this, could someone tell me how one
>avoids getting stuck with bad merchandise? For example, what happens if
>you get something via UPS-COD, plug it in the next day, and find out that
>it doesnt work? Does UPS pick up the package and give you your money
>back, or do you have to work it out with the shipper? ...

Well alot has to do with trust on both sides.  There are no 
guarantees in life or in used merchandise.  When I sell something,
I always provide a 30-day money back guarantee for the purchaser and
would not buy anything from somebody who did not give me a
similar sort of guarantee.  Most sellers are people who 
have upgraded and are not trying to lose all of their previous
investment (some ask too much money, IMHO).  Also, if you get
disatisfaction, you have the power of the 'Net' to flame until
your hearts content...

Phil
From: nickgill@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: MACINTOSH KEYBOARD $20
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:33:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: doc.1992Nov6.213327.454

MAC KEYBOARD AND NUMBER KEYBOARD
$20 OR BEST OFFER
NICK
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: John C. Brown <John.C.Brown@williams.edu>
Subject: How to avoid getting jipped???
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71EE1070D01055A@jesup316_17.cc.williams.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 5 Nov 92 19: 32:39 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:30:24 GMT

For those of us who are newcomers to this, could someone tell me how one
avoids getting stuck with bad merchandise? For example, what happens if
you get something via UPS-COD, plug it in the next day, and find out that
it doesnt work? Does UPS pick up the package and give you your money
back, or do you have to work it out with the shipper? ...