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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:54:00 EST
From:         "Dave.Millsop" <ADP56@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      transcript fees

Lynne -

How wonderful it must be to be warm this time of year......

In reference to your request for info on transcript fees, Janet Terry of
Virginia Tech did a study of transcript charging practices and produced a nice
summary of her findings. She is a very helpful person, you may wish to contact
her directly.....sorry I don't have her electronic address handy.

Season's Greetings from the Great White North,
DLMjr

David L. Millsop, Jr.                  E-MAIL:   ADP56@MSU.BITNET
Manager, SIS Data Access Services      VOICE:  (517)353-4420 EXT. 232
Michigan State University              FAX:    (517)355-5176
East Lansing, Michigan
From: bb206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Harold P Zbiegien)
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Subject: Re: COBOL-VS to COBOL II or COBOL/370
Date: 12 Dec 1992 19:19:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Training: a few hours on the new facilites, structured programming
things like inline perform, end-if etc.  Maybe a couple of more 
hours for CICS particulars.
Report-writer: I have heard that IBM has a preprocessor available, 
but I don't know anything about it.
CICS: service reloads go away and replace with a new convention;
  in our shop no problem.
The optimize feature produces pretty good code.  Because of the 
size of our shop we use the COMPR2 option which is esentially the
COBOL ans '74 standards instead of going with the '85 standards.
There are a few odd ball things that work differently in'85 but
in a small shop you might be able to cut over eaiser.  There is a
good IBM manual about the differences between COMPR2 and NOCOMPR2.
You should turn on or use the MIGR option on your VS Cobol compiles
It will tell you NOW what things have to be changed for COBOL II.
There are a number of nice features, ie the structured programing
stuff  that I like.
 
Harold Zbiegien, American Greetings Corp.
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Subject: PC Software for Tutoring
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:04:06 GMT
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Has anyone developed, or does anyone know of a commercial IBM-
compatible PC system that can be used for record-keeping in an
office responsible for tutoring?  Specifically, we are looking for
software that can track and summarize student requests for tutoring,
the assignment of tutors to students, the number of hours per week
per tutor/per subject area,etc.  We'd also be interested in hearing
about any system set up on PC spreadsheet/database software, such as
Excel, Rbase, etc.

Please send responses to me at the address below--thanks!

Candae Ross
Academic Information Officer
Millersville University, Millersville, PA  17551
BITNET:  CROSS@MILLERSV
(717) 872-3102
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:22:18 PST
From:         John Sroka <SROKA@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PHONE REGISTRATION
              16 Dec 1992 14:46:42 EST from <ADEJ%NMUMUS.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:46:42 EST ADEJ000 ERNEST JOHNSON - computer center said:
>THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON PHONE REGISTRATION VENDORS...

CUMREC-L subscribers may be interested to know a new list has been created
to enable discussion of Touch-Tone/Voice Response technology and systems.
Although topics discussed will most likely concentrate on the specification,
installation and use of automated class registration systems (Periphonics
et al) discussions of other uses for this technology are encouraged.

The list name is TOUCHTON; subscription requests may be sent to
LISTSERV@SJSUVM1 (or LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU).
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From: vchapman@victor02.carleton.ca (Vic Chapman)
Subject: Class Scheduling Software
Keywords: class scheduling software
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:08:51 GMT

I would appreciate comments and suggestions on turnkey class
scheduling software that is pc (dos) based or unix based. Carleton has
22,000 students (18,000 fte's).

Please respond by email to hzaluska@admissions.carleton.ca
Thank you for your assistance.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:30:11 -0800
From:         Lynne Perry <lperry@SCIENCES.SDSU.EDU>
Subject:      transcript fees

Hi, this is Lynne from San Diego State University, again.
I want to thank those of you who responded to my request for information
about transcript request fees.  Also, I want to clarify what I was asking
for:  We currently charge a fee of $4 per transcript.  We are considering
other options such as charging a flat fee per semester to all students or
a fee at time of first enrollment that gives the student "transcripts for
life".  If you have any information on your experiences (pros and cons)
please let me hear from you.  Thank you!
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:40:54 EST
From:         Janet Terry <TERRYJ@VTVM2.BITNET>
Subject:      transcript fee summary

Lynne,

As Dave indicated, I did put together a survey on transcript fees a couple
of years ago and posted the results to CUMREC-l.  When I first saw your
note, I browsed my userid and found that I had erased the file.  You have
a few options:  you could browse the logs of CUMREC-l and find the
survey, or you could contact the asst. registrar that requested the information
and see if he will fax you a copy (if he kept the information - Clyde Cridlin
ccridlin@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu), or you could generate a survey yourself.  I have
found the subscribers to REGIST-l to be very supportive of sharing information
about registar-related functions, as have the CUMREC-l subscribers.  You might
want to get a survey using both lists.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you!

Janet Terry
University Systems Analysis & Services
Virginia Tech
TERRYJ@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:17:23 EST
From:         Tony Gould <D1ARG@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PHONE REGISTRATION

Ernie,

Here's a list of vendors that I have compiled over the years!

Perception Technology Corporation
40 Shawmut Park
Canton, MA  02021
(617) 821-0320

Periphonics Corporation
4000 Veterans Memorial Highway
Bohemia, NY  11716
(516) 457-0500

Voice Computer Technology
5730 Oakbrook Parkway, Suite 175
Norcross, GA  30093-1888
(404) 441-2303

1776 Corporation
1776 Corporation Building
13629 Bellevue-Redmond Road
Be3llevue, WA  98005
(206) 454-1776

AT&T Convergant Systems
(Sorry no number of address, call your local AT&T office)

InterVoice Incorporated
1850 N. Greenville Avenue
Richardson, TX  75081
(214) 669-3988

Dialogic Corporation
129 Littleton Road
Parsippany, NJ  07054
(201) 334-8450

Natural Microsystems
8 Erie Drive
Natick, MA  01760
(508) 655-0700

Speech Plus Incorporated
640 Clyde Court
Mountain View, CA  94043
(415) 964-7023

The above list is only meant to be a starting reference for a few companies
involved in Voice Response Technology.  A few of these companies sell
complete systems including software while others only supply hardware.
Most of these companies run on main-frame computers, mini-computer, and
personal computers while a few support only personal computers.  There are
many more companies involved in Voice Response Technology than this
list shows.  This list is not meant to endorse any one company and is
only a list of companies that I have talked to in the past while
researching the needs at the University of Akron.

Brigham Young University holds a conference I believe every other year
dealing with the specifics of bringing Touch-Tone Technology to your
campus.  You can contact:

Admissions and Records
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT  84602
(801) 378-2537

If you need additional information please contact me at the
address below:

Tony Gould
Administrative Project Leader, Student Records
The University of Akron
302 Buchtel Common
Akron, OH  44325-3501

(216) 972-6386 - VOICE
(216) 972-5238 - FAX
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:46:42 EST
From:         ADEJ000 ERNEST JOHNSON - computer center <ADEJ@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      PHONE REGISTRATION

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON PHONE REGISTRATION VENDORS.

A LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS LOOKING AT PHONE REGISTRATION AND IS
DELEVELOPING A LIST OF THOSE VENDORS THAT OFFER HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.
ANY NAMES AND ADDRESS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE WOULD GREATLY HELP THEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO BITNET SO ASK ME TO BUT IT ON THE NETWORK.

  ERNIE JOHNSON                          VOICE 906-227-2410
  NORTHERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY           FAX   906-227-2204
  COMPUTER CENTER                        BITNET ADEJ@NMUMUS
  MARQUETTE, MI                          ES 9000 120
  49855                                  MVS/VM
From: JWT4639@RITVM.BITNET (Jim Tefft)
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Subject: Tuition Waver
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:33:14 GMT
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I'am inquiring about a computerized Tuition Waver process. If anyone has/
or knows of a Tuition Waver Application I would be interested in hearing
about it. The system can be PC based, Client Server Based etc. Thanks
in advance:

             Jim Tefft - Systems Manager
       Rochester Institute Of Technology
         JWT4636@RITVM
        716-475-2816
        716-475-5306 Fax
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:55:59 CST
From:         Columbus Posey <ADPOSEY@UMSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: one-time transcript fees
              15 Dec 1992 09:49:45 -0800 from <lperry@SCIENCES.SDSU.EDU>

Lynn, when I was at another University in the early 70's, we were charging $1
for transcripts &, I believe, $15 for graduation.  Anyhow, I went to accounting
& found out total income for 12 months for those 2 accounts & divided that
figure by the total instances of registrations.  The result was $1.14 per
registration.  I recommended to my boss that we "eat" the 86 cent loss in
income since we would no longer have to check if this was the first (=free)
transcript, no reciepting or accounting would have to be done & students
would no longer have acomplaint of having to pay to get out after all that
tuition.  He said, "No.  Let's increase tuition by $2 & make 86 cents."
We did just that, in effect increasing the cost of the first hour by $2 for
parttimers & the total by $2 for full timers who paid a flat rate.
Accounting broke it out into some special service account, the change was made
between years when tuition was going up, anyhow, so the students were not
really conscious of the change.

Of course, it is purely socialistic, making those who drop out pay for those
who graduate, but not any more so than my (who am childless) paying school
taxes or everyone paying social security, even though many die before they die.

Good luck & merry holidays (is that adequately pC?)

************************************************************************
        Columbus H. Posey
        Registrar
        University of Mississippi
        Lyceum 117
        University, Mississippi 38677
Voice       (601) 232-7226
Bitnet      ADPOSEY@UMSVM
Internet    ADPOSEY@VM.CC.OLEMISS>EDU
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:14:55 EST
Comments:     Resent-From: Wayne Donald <AWDCMS@VTVM1>
Comments:     Originally-From: Wayne Donald <AWDCMS@VTVM1>
From:         Wayne Donald <AWDCMS@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Scheduling System

I realized I did not send this on both listservs.  Hope some of the
CUMREC-L folks will have some responses.  Thanks.
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We have received a request from academic advising to assist them in
implementing an automated scheduling system.  Currently they cannot
handle the number of phone calls from students attempting to shedule
appointments.  A task force within their office wants to look at what
systems might be available to help with this situation.  They are
interested in anything from voice response applications, to online
interfaces.

If anyone has such a system installed and running, or can recommend a
vendor, I would appreciate hearing from you.  Responses can be sent to
my userid:

 AWDCMS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Thansk.  Wayne Donald - Virginia Tech
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:44:38 GMT
From:         CCSYS005@CCSUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: PHONE REGISTRATION

This is in reply to Ernest Johnson's request for info on phone registration.
Although many of you may already know this, much information has been
archived in CUMREC-L on this and many other topics.  You may request a
search for articles/mail on a topic from the list server for a particular list.
(Thanks to Peter Weiss who first clued me in on this for this very topic -
phone registration.)

If you are a subscriber to a list, you may send a job similar to the one
below to search the list for various topics.  *** THE JOB IS SENT TO
*LISTSERV*, NOT TO THE LIST ITSELF ***, (ie, send the following mail in the
body of your note to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1):


//LISTSRCH JOB ECHO=NO
DATABASE SEARCH DD=RULES OUTLIM=2000
//RULES DD *
SEARCH (VOICE RESPONSE) OR IVR IN CUMREC-L SINCE 91
INDEX DATE.8 SENDER.30 SUBJECT.40
PRINT


Good luck Tony,
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:44:33 EDT
From:         Susan Cole <SCOLE@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: one-time transcript fees
              15 Dec 1992 09:49:45 -0800 from <lperry@SCIENCES.SDSU.EDU>

Lynne:

Kent went to the concept of charging a "Registration and Services Fee" in
Fall, 1991.  We have been very pleased with the results.  It has enhanced
our service to students, and made life in our Transcript Services area much
less stressful as a result of saving both time and effort on the part of our
clerical staff.

We charge a $7.50 fee to each full-time student, at the time of registration.
Part-time students are charged on a prorated basis.  This fee replaces the
previous charges for transcripts, graduation application, an international
student application, as well as all add/drop transaction fees.

We have found that the income generated more than covers the previous income
generated by all these fees, in fact, we are bringing in $100,000-125,000
more each year.  It has also reduced lines for both our office and the
bursar's office, as well as generating a good deal of alumni good will, since
they no longer have to pay for transcripts.

Susan M. Cole
Associate Registrar                    BITNET: SCOLE@KENTVM
Kent State University                  VOICE:  (216) 672-3131
Kent, OH 44242                         FAX:    (216) 672-4836
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:06:44 CST
From:         Diane Fisher <diane@PRC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      MFIALA re: Lessing
Comments: To: literary@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu

I have read Summer Before the Dark and consider it one of Lessing's best. I
 don't think it would be considered "science fiction"  although I can understand
 it being described as inner space fiction. I think Lessing's sci fi phase began
 as she ended
another favorite novel of mine - 4-gated City. I couldn't follow her into the
 sci-fi genre and was pleased when she 'came back' as it were with the books she
 wrote under the pseudonym of Jane Sommers (sp?).
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Full-Name: Kristin J. Garau
Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25]
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:11:27 EST
From:         "Kristin J. Garau" <garaukj@AC.WFUNET.WFU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mishima
Comments: To: Discussions about Literature <LITERARY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu>

I have not seen the movie, nor read the book. However, I love the
soundtrack to the film, which was composed and performed by the Philip
Glass ensemble.  Truly inspirational.


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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:40:33 -0400
From:         IAN YORK <YORK@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: Canons, continued

PSPARKS:  Oh, come on.  Ken didn't say you couldn't discuss the other lan-
guages, just that you were wrong to take umbrage at the (perceived) exclu-
sion from the mythical canon.  Try reading the mail before you reply.  And,
please, by all means discuss other languages: so far all you've done (unless
I've missed something) is list some writers, which anyone with a Norton's can do
   .
        Why start start with a discussion of Boccaccio in the company of his con
   temporary Don Juan Manuel (and, as a matter of course, Chaucer)?  I know noth
   ing about the first two, and little about the thrid, and would love to learn.

        Ian
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:02:17 -0600
From:         MFIALA@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: JOTS

I would also be interested in information on JOTS.

MFiala@VAX1.umkc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:27:32 -0600
From:         "GALLAGHER, PATRICIA E." <PGALLAGH@LIFE.JSC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      ATT: LITERARY OWNERS
Comments: To: literary@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu

Sorry to inflict this on the whole group. I need to stop my mail; however,
the REVIEW has my address listed incorrectly and therefore the computer
will not recognize me.

Please unsubscribe me for the time being. Thank you.
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:46:11 -0600
From:         MFIALA@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Quote of the Day
Comments: To: Literary@UCF1VM.BItnet

Nature and nurture are inextricable; only scientists and psychologists
could think otherwise, and we know all about them, don't we?
                                 ---Robertson Davies

Whoever mentioned Robertson Davies last week, thank you.  I am reading
_What's Bred in the Bone_ and it's wonderful!

Mindy
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:14:51 -0600
From:         PSPARKS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Canons, continued

If discussion is to be exclusively about English languae age lit, no one told
me; and I could point out amany transgressions of this alleged rule.

Of course, Boccaciocaccio was Italian; this hardly precludes his being dic
   scussed
in the company of his contemporary, Don Juan Manuel.  In fact, they should
both be discussed with Chaucer as a matter of course.

However, if it preclud we are not allowed to discuss authors of more
   than one language
group on the same transmission, someone needs to get me a complete set of
the apparently complex and elitist rules, right away.

PSPARKS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:52:41 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <PH408014@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Canons, continued

>If discussion is to be exclusively about English languae age lit, no one told
>me; and I could point out amany transgressions of this alleged rule.
>someone needs to get me a complete set of
>the apparently complex and elitist rules, right away.

  Rule #1 - leave your attitude at home.

  Rule #2 - *read* what you respond to.

  I believe that Ken was responding to a discussion
about defining canon, not one about defining what
should be talked about on this list.  If you think
about it, you'll realize that there is a difference.

  I think if you pay attention to those two rules
from now on, you'll do just fine.

               Merry Christmas

                        -Tim
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:33:42 -0400
From:         IAN YORK <YORK@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: Asian Literature

        Mia, I've only read one collection of Mishima's;  I think it's called
The Way of the Samurai?
???  I was very impressed; but that was about 6 years
ago, and I'm afraid I can't remember why, or why I didn't read any more of his.
I guess I'm not being much help, but that is probably as good a place to start
with Mishima as any.  (It's short stories, which may fit better into your cop-
ious spare time than novels . . .)
        Ian
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