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From: pwg25888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Patrick W. Grady)
Subject: Re: ILM is for amateurs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:17:43 GMT

<SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>    YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH FAITH EVERYONE IN THIS GROUP PLACES IN
>GEORGE LUCAS' ILM. WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS. I MEAN C'MON, WHO CAN'T DO STOP GO
>ANIMATION NOWADAYS. AND AS FAR AS A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE WITH NEW EFFECTS, HE
>BETTER CAN IT NOW. STAR WARS WILL NEVER MATCH UP TO STAR TREK'S FIRST SEASON
>OF FX.
>    AS FAR AT T2, I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR
>THAT MOVIE. I MEAN I COULD DO MORPHING ON MY COMMADORE VIC 20. THERE HAS TO
>BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO AGREES WITH ME, THERE ARE MORE RESPECTABLE FX COM-
>PANIES OUT THERE, GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

>                              -MANG


	It looks like MANG is impatient.  If he had bothered to read the 
credits to Star Trek or T2 he would have realized who did those effects and
wouldn't have made this post.

	Also, I think he needs to have caps lock un superglued on his keyboard.


Patrick

--This younger generation is deprived-- they've never seen Star Wars: A New
Hope on the big screen.  Their education is sorly lacking.--

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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:18:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

In article <BvCEwr.I0E@news.udel.edu> paris@brahms.udel.edu (Paris H Magasiny) writes:

>However, I was wondering just what audience they are trying to target.
>The intensity of the battle scenes on this weeks show were enough to
>make me very uncomfortable....and I believe that was the intent--to
>show how hellish war is.  But if they are aiming for a fairly young, say
>teenage audience (which they seem to be with their young star) then I
>would think the violence was very strong for an 8 p.m. time slot?

Let me second that one. I was thinking the exact same thing myself.
I agree that it is important to show that War Is Hell, and WWI was
particularly bad, but after seeing guys get gassed/bombed/grenaded/
flamed/machinegunned/etc. for an hour, I began to wonder about
the effect on the younger members of the audience. Someone was 
complaining earlier about how violent last week's "Quantum Leap"
was for 8:00 and that had NOTHING on this -- and Indy is *supposed*
to be a kids' show and QL isn't.

Hasn't Lucas repeatedly said that he wants kids to watch YIJ to learn
about history? Did he let *his* kids watch this episode? (Of course,
where he and I live, it's on at 10 because of football)

I grew up watching TV reports from Vietnam every night with dinner,
and "Temple of Doom" didn't bother me a bit. This did. I hate to think
what it did to little kids.

All that said, it *was* well done on all counts.

Sally

-- 
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From: dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND)
Subject: Re: ILM is for amateurs
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:31:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.174348.28776@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
<arrogant nonsense deleted>
>
>Star TREK?! Oh dear, you must be joking. As far as SFX go, only the Next
>Generation cannot be described as being "pathetic." And the bulk of their first
>season FX were done by ILM... 

True, but keep in mind it isn't fair to compare the old vs new Starbleck fx.
The old show was done on a VERY low budget. Read the Making of Star Trek if you
want to read about Bob Justman's desperate attempts to make a show with some
halfway believable effects for about $79,000 an episode. That's chickenfeed,
even then it was. The fact he got as much done as he did is a tribute to him.
But they didn't have a million bucks per episode (or equivalent in 1960s money)
to work with. The Next Generation also has the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and 
20 years of advances in special effects technology. I might as well say that
Fritz Lang was a lousy director because the FX of Metropolis don't look all
that stunning anymore (I dunno though...). It's an invalid and unfair 
comparison.
From: worthm@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael A Worth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re:Vader's death
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:19:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Newsgroups: alt.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's death
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Keywords: 

Not to violently disagree with the previous arguments, but I really don't think
that Vader was tied to the Emporer through the force, or else why would he try to cajole Luke into overthrowing the Emporer and ruling the galaxy (TESB)?
Also, in the book RotJ, Vader contemplates to himself how (I am paraphrasing)
"when he learned all he could from [the Emporer], then he would overthrow him,
seize his dark power, and take it for himself." Seems pretty lemmingish of ol'
Darth to kill the Emporer to get his power only to die right after. No, I am of the opinion that the mystical bolts shorted out Vader's life support (of 
course, asking Luke to take off Vader's helmet didn't help any.).


	"No light speed, AGAIN?"
	"No, it's really not my fault!!"
	"AAUUURRGGGH!! (Chewie)"
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From: scostant@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: FTP site: decompression probs?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:30:31 GMT



Well I can get into the ftp site, I can download the items, but I can't
decompress any of them. I am using a vax/vms system to transfer the files,
then trying to decompress them on a macintosh.  I have downloaded just about
every decompressor from the popular mac ftp sites, but none of them will
decompress files with the <filename>.Z extension. Any ideas?
I am unable to view any of the gifs.  I have been in touch with SS@wpi.wpi.edu
and it seems my viewer isn't good enough to read them.(QuickGif for the mac).
Can anyone help? It's most frustrating being able to get hold of the files,
but not be able to do anything with them!

Help appreciated.
COZZIE
From: ss@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: FILES FOR ARCHIVE NEEDED
Date: 28 Sep 1992 20:28:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Well the archive is off to a good start. The address again is
wpi.wpi.edu (130.215.24.31) If you have things to submit, FTP them to
/starwars/incoming. Things i'm looking for that I remeber being
posted.

The articles from Skywalking
Action figure list
Toy list
Book list
DECwars

Or anything else you think would be cool to add. 

-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: x91smathers@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: NEW CHILDREN'S BOOKS
Date: 27 Sep 92 13:02:07 EST
Reply-To: X91smathers@gw.wmich.edu
Organization: Western Michigan University

	I posted a message earlier about the new Star Wars children's 
books, and I'm curious to know if anyone else had discovered and read them.
It is a series of six books, although only the first three have been released 
so far, and they are in either the "favorite series" or "young readers"
section in the bookstore.  They are copyrighted 1992 by Lucasfilm, and are
written by Peter Davids and Hollace Davids.  The books that are out so
far are...
	1. The Glove of Darth Vader
	2. The Lost City of the Jedi
	3.  Zorba the Hutt's Revenge
I'm now waiting for the fourth book, titled 'Mission From Mount Yoda,' to
be released.  I would put the titles of the fifth and sixth books, as they
are listed in the front of The Glove of Darth Vader, but I can't remember
them offhand and I lent the book to a fellow Star Wars freak.
	Anyone who has read them can mail me and let me know what they think
of them, because I'd like to know if others get the same impressions that I
do.
	                  --Karen
From: jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars question!!!!!!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:30:42 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia

In article <1992Oct1.022532.13108@news.vanderbilt.edu> MANEJWZA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu writes:
>	In episode IV "Star Wars," when OBIE-ONE is fighting against
>Darth Vader and looks over to see Luke and then stares back at Vader and then
>holds his saber and then gets sliced, Why does Ben look over for such a
>long time to see Luke?  Was he waiting for Luke to see him die? Or was
>he waiting to see Luke just before he dies?  Or does he want Vader to see
>Luke?

I believe that OBI-WAN does this to make it clear to you and me in the
audience that he's doing this on purpose, for Luke's benefit, and he's
not just some inept old man who started daydreaming in the middle of a
sword fight.

Post.  Or post not.  There is no "study."
Chuck
-- 
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NO 229: "If I'm ever in a position to call the shots, I'm not going to rush
to send somebody else's kids into a war" -- George Bush, MAN OF INTEGRITY
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From: MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (mason hart)
Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:38:11 GMT

I tend to think of Vader's TIE as a prototype for the interceptor
that was introduced in RotJ.  Vader strikes me as the kind of guy
who'd want the best, even if it was experimental.
 
"Life IS pain.  Anyone who tells you differently is selling something."
-- mason hart, rice u.
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: hardware wars
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:24:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, watters@mendel.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters) says:

>In article <6OCT199212352204@pavo.concordia.ca> f_alfan@pavo.concordia.ca (ALFANI, FABRIZIO) writes:
>>
>> While flipping through this newsgroup, I noticed someone (Gallandro) using
>>a quote from Hardware Wars, a short spoof of SW which appeared in the early 
>>80's. My question is, does anybody (Canada/continental U.S) have a copy of this
>>satire, or know where I can get one? E-mail me, I just have to see that spoof
>>again, and I'll go to pretty extreme lengths to do so.
>>
>>Aggie Ben Doggie Rules!
>
>It's contained in a video called "Hardware Wars and other film farces"
>Also contains "PorkLips Now" (just a little less boring that the original IMHO)
>	"Bambi meets Godzilla"
>	and others that escape me at the moment.

If it's the one that I'm thinking of, the other film is "Closet Encounters
of the Nerd Kind," one of my personal favorites.

At least, that's what's on my copy.

"YOU'RE BLOCKING THE ROAD!" -- Darth Vader

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From: mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Yoda's Conversation
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:32:38 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


	I'm pretty sure Yoda says (in ESB) " For 800 years have I trained Jedi,
My own council will I seek as to who is to be trained."  It's been awhile since
I last saw ESB, so I don't know if this is exact.
From: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Bugs on Broadway
Date: 2 Oct 1992 05:15:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct1.234946.6933@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay) writes:
>bother flaming me)  Polite follow-ups encouraged, though.  BTW: Has anyone
>seen the recent multiple showings of ESB and ROTJ on Showtime recently?
>I saw ESB the other day and noticed a scene of the Wampa (?) dragging 
>Luke across the ice, wasn't this a minorly contested scene?  It was definatly
>in there unless they were talking about something completely different and
>I just didn't pay enough attention (I try to stay away from 'It's in there'
>scene debates.)

	You see Luke being dragged, but not the Wampa that is doing it.  The
Wampa costume was too awkward and the actor kept falling down, so most of the
Wampa scenes were scraped.  There is footage of attempts to film this in the
making of ESB special.  All that was left in the film are face shots and vague
movement of the Wampa, but the original plans to show the Wampa dragging Luke
were canned.

-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: Related Star Wars Question
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: well...
Keywords: does Bo know UNIX?
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galaxy
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:06:37 GMT

In article <p12-lY+@engin.umich.edu> yyrkoon@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Jeffrey Jon Kabbe ) writes:
>
>>How about this--that wacky, traditionalistic, jedi thinking of his.
>
>I'll accept that. But then why did Darth Vader slice into Kenobi when he 
>had turned back to him and raised his sabre into the "kill me now" position?
>
>!Jeff Kabbe != yyrkoon

Well Jeff how's this:

	Like in many swordfighting styles, it's a possition of
submission.  In mock battles, this is the point where the one person
would admit that the other is better fighter, lose some honor, and
then let the match be over.  However, in actual combat, the loser
doesn't lose face, he also his life.  But the fact that he was
respectful and honorable enough to admit defeat is much bettter.
Or think of it like this.  Kenobi allowed Vader to think that he'd
won, by admitting some sorta combatinal (is that a word) defeat.
Now look at ROTJ where Vader doesn't admit he's outclassed, get
julianned like a ripe potato <--no "e" here!!!  Anyway, if you 
compare the two, who died more gracefully, etc...


	--Jerry




-- 

Jerry Alexandratos            | "What?  Even I can't always lose...
darkstar@freezer.cns.udel.edu |        --Bert
darkstar@bach.udel.edu        |
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: RE: Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:26:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin) says:

>
>	I agree with boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu, on the discussion of Young Indy.
>While I enjoy the show, this is a STAR WARS newsnet, not a SW/Young Indy
>net.  Until this becomes the Star Wars/Lucasfilm (or eventually the Lucasfilm)
>news net (like the Fan Club) Let's stick to Star Wars.  If you want to talk
>about Indy, post it on the tv newsnet or Create an INDIANA JONES newsnet.
>	Most of us read this for info on Star Wars (past, present, future)
>and are getting sick of seeing posts dealing with Lucasfilm (or ILM) 
>related projects  (eg. Jurassic Park, Young Indy) 

If there's such a limited demand, where are all these posts coming from?

Relax.  Here we use the z)ap command and the offending string is gone.
I'm sure you have something similar.  

Star Wars is a 15 year old movie.  We have pretty much discussed all of
the things that we waited 10 years to find a bunch of people who were
also demented enough to want to take the time to talk about.  We're
down to letterboxing and minor characters now.  So it's not like you're
going to miss simething profound because someone is discussing another
aspect of Lucasfilm.

Look, when and if there is ever enough new stuff to discuss to make
this an issue, the other stuff will fade away, believe me.  It will
happen for no other reason than the fact that people won't have time 
to comment on SW AND YIJC, and they WILL pick SW. 

Trust me.

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From: bailey@emunix.emich.edu (Grand Moff Tarkin)
Subject: Re: Classic SW Comic #1
Organization: Detroit Institue of Criminal Arts and Sciences
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:10:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.120447.5645@gw.wmich.edu> 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	It's been a couple weeks since anyone posted anything about the
>Classic Star Wars comic book series, the first of which came out in late
>Aug/early Sept.  Anyway, I picked up a copy yesterday and read it.
>	I was impressed.  The art was OK, and it certainly wasn't marred 
>by any of the bizarre plots and unlikely characterizations of The Dark 
>Empire (and best of all, no E-Wings!!!).  
>	For those of you that missed the earlier posts, Classic Star Wars
>takes place between ANH and TESB.  It concerns the search for a new rebel base
>and the encounter on Ord Mantell that Han refers to on Hoth during TESB.
>The imperial scout walkers look pretty wierd, but that's OK because there
>may be more versions than what we saw in the movies.
>	Has anyone else read this comic book?  What do you think?
>
>		--Dave "Y-Wings and Boba Fett are Cool" Fanjoy
>
I like this comic book.  The drawings are excellent it seems to follow
within the events of the time.  Hopefully there will be more details as far
as the growing of Han and Leia's relationship.
>
>
>"You may fire when ready..."
>		--Tarkin
>"Fire at will, Commander!!!"
>		--Palpatine
>
>	Which Death Star sovreign do YOU think has more style?
>
I'll give you three guesses, the first two don't count.  :)
>


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From: MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (mason hart)
Subject: Re: Delta Source Scrutiny
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:13:55 GMT

With Zahn going to so much trouble to keep the identity of
Delta Source a secret, it almost has to be a person.  He's
trying to set up a surprise for his readers, and something
as mundane as a "bug" would be far too anticlimactic.  My
money's still on Winter.
 
"Life IS pain.  Anyone who tells you differently is selling something."
-- mason hart, rice u.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: jcf8938@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Amanaman: Who is he?
Reply-To: jcf8938@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:04:37 GMT

	I have seen Amanaman before in Return of the Jedi.  I just watched 
that movie today on HBO, and you can see him right behind Han and Leia
during the conversation with Jabba the Hutt after Han got freed from 
carbonite chamber.  Kind of dark to see him fully, however.  
							J. Frost
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: Z-95?
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 23:23:03 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon
Keywords: Hey,

In article <BvGGG8.L1C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> alfordjj@fe529.cc.purdue.edu (Jared Alford) writes:
>Does anyone know what a Z-95 "Headhunter" starfighter looks like?
>Have they appeared in any of the movies?  Does anyone have a picture?

The only place where this ship has 'appeared' is in _Han Solo at
Stars' End_ and the source materials for the Star Wars Roleplaying
Game by West End Games.  The drawing for the Z-95 provided in the
_Allaince Sourcebook_ is very similar to one of the early sketches of
the X-wing in the _Star Wars Sketchbook_.  Essentially, take an
X-wing, give it a bubble canopy, shorten the fuselage by a few meters,
and make the engine intakes semi-circular.  (There are a few other
cosmetic changes which I can't recall offhand.)  The wings do not
split, judging from the drawing, but there are two laser canon on each
wingtip.  (Odd, since the book described three blaster cannon on
each wing...go figure.)

>				Jared

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 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
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From: cleaver@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Russell Cleaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: FTP site: decompression probs?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:34 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

I'd just like to give a Big Public THANK-YOU to Mr. Streeter for 
first of all, setting up the ftp site, and now, for fielding
the questions on how to ftp!

Your efforts are appreciated.
-- 
..... . . . .  .  .  .   .   .    .    .    .   .   .  .  .  .  . . . . . .....
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Long Title: Do I have to do this all over again?!
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:06:46 GMT

>>>You missed a couple....
>>>"I'd rather kiss a Wookie."
>>>"Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope."
>>>I also thought I heard "No Luke, I am your father" but the phone rang.
>>><grin>
>>>Michael
>>
>>          Wow. Are we supposed to laugh now? <NOT!> Why don't you just
>>   post something of importance instead of wasting bandwidth.
>>
>>
>>
>
>HEY! This is funny! Maybe I'm the only one, but sometimes a person needs a good
>laugh occasionally.  

You aren't the only one.  But perhaps it is only you and I.  Gee...humor is
dying.  The world will be next....
-- 
Sam.                                             ss1@kepler.unh.edu
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From: joea@wpi.WPI.EDU (The Mighty Vanguard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's ship
Date: 4 Oct 1992 21:19:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Actually..there's another possible movie error here.  I happen to have West End
Games Star Warriors set.  There's a picture on the back of the rulebook that
has a scene of an incomplete death star in the background with Darth Vader's
(Yes, Vader's...not an interceptor) TIE firing on an X-wing.  I know many of us
don't consider West End official, but they do get most of their pictures from 
LucasFilm releases.  Maybe someone who has a good movie copy can shed some
positive light?

BTW, according to West End, Vader's fighter is the TIE Interceptor prototype.
Apparently, due to the dark lord's success with the fighter, the Imperial Navy
decided to mass produce similar fighters in order to compete with the
Rebellion's new A-wings. (A-wings blow standard TIE's away in the speed 
department)

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