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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: OverKill
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:39:05 GMT

mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson) writes:

>  Hate to be a "me too" person but ME TOO!  Howabout an Overkill
>fan club mailing list?  Overkill rules!

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>| Western Illinois University  |     /       \      \|    .     .           |
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ME THREE, Overkill Rules, Western Illinois Univ doesn't!!!!! (just kididng
big guy) :)

					hoping to be a Univ of Illinois grad,

						       the man
From: slt22@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: OverKill
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:05:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

     Man, OverKill made a devastating impression on everyone didn't they?
Any doubters just need to listen to Horrorscope!  I hope the new drummer
is as great as Sid!  The drums is all part of the power!
                              Long live OverKill!  I'll be first in line for the 
new one!
                                            Jerrel
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman)
Subject: The ORIGINAL Black Sabbath
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:54:02 PST




Any fans of the ORIGINAL Black Sabbath out there?

November 15, 1992 was what was advertised as Ozzy Osbourne's LAST show. THis
was also the last show of his No More Tears tour and the "opening band" was
Black Sabbath ending their Dehumanizer tour. Anyhow, Dio didn't sing because he
did not want to open for Ozzy but Rob Halford of Judas Priest did the vocals.
Sabbath played for about an houra nd they were good but Halford singing was out
of place. 

Then Ozzy and his band played for two more hours. Now there were a lot of "old
timers", Saba fans from the 70's, there at the Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa
Mesa, Ca hoping Ozzy would play WITH the Sabs. WEll, after Ozzy left the stage
some VJ from MTV came on and anounced that we would witness history.

Sure enough, The song Black Sabbath started to play as out came Ozzy Osbourne
(dressed in a black shirt with white fringes on the sleeves), Tony Iommi,
Geezer Butler and Bill Ward. The played four songs together: Black Sabbath,
Fairies Wear Boots, Ironman and Paranoid. It was the most amazing sight I have
ever witnessed. As I looked at one of the "old timers" there were tears in his
eyes.

Sabbath said they would never play together again after they split up. They did
twice: Live Aid and Nov. 15, 1992 in Costa Mesa. 

Bill Ward looked pretty bad but the rest looked well enough to Rock'n'Roll and
they did very well. Like I said, the show was incredible! I never thought I
would see Sabbath perform but there they were!!!!


Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Subject: death vs. thrash vs. grindcore
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:16:51 GMT


Everyone seems to be throwing around the terms "death metal", "thrash",
&  "grindcore" without a common sense of what each are. It's hard enough
as it is to classify some of the music everyone's talking about without
having to also decipher each individual's definition of these terms. 

Flame me if you like but this is my concept of the meanings of death metal,
thrash, and grindcore:

Thrash & grindcore are musical styles. God forbid, I actually try to define
the difference in the sound between the two but after you've listened to
enough stuff, you get a feel for what falls in each category (well, at least
some of the time). Dead Horse is thrash (albeit with grindcore influences);
recent Napalm Death is grindcore. Vocals don't exclusively decided which
category the band falls in. Both grindcore & thrash can have distorted 
vocals. 

Death metal does not describe the sound of the band. Death metal can be
thrash or grindcore (although it is grindcore most of the time). Death
metal describes the lyrical attitude of the band. Same for doom metal 
(although I admit doom is almost always slow).

Anyone agree? Anyone see a weak point in my approach?

chanel
From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: TOOL
Date: 22 Nov 1992 10:00:13 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu


Howdy all...

I picked up an EP from a band from Texas I think (but don't quote
me on that one) by the name of Tool...the EP is entitled Opiate..

Now...I happen to think these guys are great...heavy but not over-
blown...kinda like before Soundgarden (or any other Seattle thingy
for that matter) got big...but their songs are real cool...

All the above comments are my opinion of course...but I talked to
their publicist and they don't seem to be getting much play..
So I was wondering if any of y'all out there have heard these guys
and, if so, what do ya think?


Post replies please.


Later.
-justin
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mheniff@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (heniff michael j jr)
Subject: Re: This Music-type casting argument
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:43:37 GMT

What's with all this categorizing?  Why not set up two categories, good and 
bad?

By the way, has anyone heard of Cro-Mags or Type O-Negative.
They're both great bands.  Type O is more sorta doom metalish and if you
haven't heard the song "Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of
Infedility" of their _Slow,_Deep,_and_Hard album you're really missing out.
As far as Cro_mags go they're an ex-hardcore band that really kicks ass live.
They have two albums out that can be compared to the likes of Death Angel's
_Act_III_.         
Mike
From: 00jlbrash@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden prev. unreleased
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:09:54 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov20.182822.26637@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, asta@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (ASTA Uni-KL) writes:
> Anybody interested in a CD with Iron Maiden playing live in a concert that
> they made without advertising for it. They played mainly cover songs.
> It was more or less a fun project they did
Fuck yes, Where can I get it?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: valse@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Valsecchi Alessandro)
Subject: About Metallica in concert
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:39:59 GMT

11/17 i see metallica in concert in milan and they were just fantastic.
who said that jason isn't able to play probably haven't ever heard him
live.
he's great, he plays a solo of about 10 minutes and he put in also
"stars sprangle banner" 
Then with kirk they made a cover of ledzep
About old songs they played them very well and fast as in the original
They played about 25 songs including :

Motor breath (!)
Fade to black 
Creeping death
Welcome sanatorium (!)

and of course battery, they made it at the light speed!!!
So for me it's true that the last album isn't the best but don't tell
me that they aren't able to play real good metal anymore.

						bye alex

P.S.
Sorry for the english error that i surely made.
___________________________________________________________________________
Adrenaline start to flow	|	Moon is full nothing seem to change
Trashing all around		|	Just labeled mentally deranged
Acting like a maniac
Whiplash!

by Metallica
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal;,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Sabbath on Rockline
Organization: Finnish University and ResearcH Network, FUNET
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 05:01:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.214842.21873@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bfinney@nyx.cs.du.edu (Brody Finney) writes:
>
>
>Did anyone record Sabbath on Rockline this week?  I didn't find out about
>it unil this morning.
>
I want this on tape too!!! If anyone of you has recorded this, please
please please contact me _NOW_!

--
Tapio Keihanen - tapio@nic.funet.fi \ / "Never look back, never turn!"
                - k135528@cc.tut.fi / \        -Ronnie James Dio, 1981
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: about this classification thing 
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:56:32 GMT

I think it's too difficult to sort out who plays what kind of music or 
whatever mostly because lots of bands are, if they haven't already, playing in
more than one style. For instance, look at Metallica and Megadeth. People say
they're thrash, someone else says "how can they be thrash? They're speed
metal!" and someone else says they're just a heavy metal band and the thing is,
it just seems to me they did all those styles. And what about "progressive
rock" or "progressive metal?" What's that? (I'm on the newsgroup so we've 
talked about it before. This was just a rhetorical question.) Why not just
say "sounds like ___ insert more familiar band here____" than categorizing
them? Leave that to taxonomists. 

Just an observation and a commentary. 
As you were.

philip

Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Kyuss?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:25:46 GMT

As the subject header says, who are they? I want to go see Danzig next month
at the Roseland, and this band Kyuss is opening for them. I've seen that name
before, but I don't know who they are. Someone please explain?

philip



Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater)
Subject: Re: About Metallica in concert
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:28:08 GMT

In <1992Nov20.133959.29764@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> valse@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Valsecchi Alessandro) writes:

>11/17 i see metallica in concert in milan and they were just fantastic.
>who said that jason isn't able to play probably haven't ever heard him
>live.
>he's great, he plays a solo of about 10 minutes and he put in also

jason is agreat bass player....

>So for me it's true that the last album isn't the best but don't tell
>me that they aren't able to play real good metal anymore.

they are able to play good metal.. but it ain't off the latest album...
i have seen this tour twice... and i saw the AJFA tour and the MOP tour
with ozzy...
the MOP tour was probably the best i saw... just raw metallica thrashing
out some tunes.... not this over produced hard rock tour they are putting
on now....
one more quick bitch.... when i went to the tours before this.. they didn't
have to stop in the middle of creeping death and tell the crowd what to
sing..... we just did it automatically...

--
death@buhub.bradley.edu        INEVITABILE FATVM       death@camelot.bradley.edu

       Are you prepared for the kind of death you have earned little man?
From: craa77@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: L7 Albums!!!!!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:53:46 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


Could someone tell me if there are 3 L7 albums....  I've got Bricks are
Heavy and one just titled  L7  but recently I've heard that there is 
another one called Smell the Magic .....  Would someone please shed some
light on this.......


  thanks in advance


 alan
From: st1p8@rosie.uh.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Top Death Metal Groups
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:20 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Nov15.163004.22393@ugle.unit.no>, leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y) writes...
>In article <BxqtxD.2HB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
> 
>Try Sepultura:  Their latest album, "Arise", is excellent stuff.  Also, the one
>before that (I forget the title) is supposed to be good.

I find it difficult to believe you don't know that "Beneath the Remains"
is Sepultura's album immediately before "Arise."  It's not "good," it's
near-perfection.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Subject: Re: Quest. for Megadeth maniacs
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:46:49 GMT


In article <1es1kfINNna@doc.ksu.ksu.edu>, cress@doc.ksu.ksu.edu (Garrett C Cress) writes...
> 
>Hey there,
> 
>I need some advice on what are the best old Megadeth albums out there.
>Any reply welcome posted or emailed.
> 
	I don't know if people would consider it old or not, but RIP (Rust in
Peace) is phenomenal stuff!!
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Heavy Heavy Metal
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:40:59 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Metal

In article <BxxCoB.G9u@nic.umass.edu> cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett) writes:
>In article <Bxw1os.3rn@cs.columbia.edu> dbi@cs.columbia.edu (Dmitry Babayev) writes:
>>In article <97922@netnews.upenn.edu> ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham) writes:
>>>-James
>>>University of Pennsylvania
>>>ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>>>
>>>P.S.  I'll probably get flamed by one camp or another no matter what I do, but
>>>I have to say that Slayer is an incredible thrash band.  All of you out there
>>>going, "NO! Slayer is not thrash!" I apologize to.  It's just how I look at 
>>>them.  They're the original.  Anything else is influenced at best, if not
>>>directly copied.
>>>
>>
>>Perfectly agreed !! Whatever *they* say, - Slayer is the Father of 
>>thrash metal. Any thrash metal collection should start with Slayer albums.
>>
>>--MITCH--
>>
>>dbi@cs.columbia.edu
>>
>>
>
>Forgive me if I am incorrect, but wasn't the term "thrash" originally
>coined for bands like Circle Jerks and DRI?  I was under the impression
>Slayer was speed metal, since (again, forgive me if I'm wrong) the term
>"speed metal" was coined for bands that played while on crank or other
>inexpensive and availiable amphetamine-like substances.  Jeff Hanneman
>even wrote a song _about_ speed (Praise of Death), as did James Hetfield
>(Motorbreath).
>
>As for heavy metal, wasn't this term created by the media to describe
>anything from GnR to Anthrax to Poison to Slayer (again, please correct
>me if I am wrong).
>
>-Chuck
>
>
I don't know if the term "heavy metal" has been created by the media but
it is entirely true that the media uses that term to slap on any rock-group,
heavier than New Kids on the Block.  I, for one can suggest the cure: FUCK THE MEDIA!
THESE IGNORANT AASHOLES DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT METAL! I stopped reading newspapers
of mass-appeal type long time ago (and magazines too...)


Renegade.
 




















































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"I know that I work for Time-Warner, one of the main purveyors of evil
 in the universe.  The way I see it, sometimes you have to rot the
 infrastructure from within." -Al Jourgensen

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From: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Subject: Re: Where's Souron & Maple
Reply-To: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:20:41 GMT

Suaron's gone.  (Yeah, I know, we all miss him in a convoluted sort of way).
Maple's around tho', and probably waiting for the next poser to emerge.



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  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: Kyuss?
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:51:31 GMT

Philip writes:
>As the subject header says, who are they? I want to go see Danzig next month
>at the Roseland, and this band Kyuss is opening for them. I've seen that name
>before, but I don't know who they are. Someone please explain?

I don't know too much about the band's bio or anything, but they've got an
album out called _Blues for the Red Sun_ on Chameleon Records, and it is
really cool.  They've got this super-huge sound that's sort of a modern
late-60's kind of something.  I recommend checking it out if you get a
chance, and I've seen a few copies in used CD bins.


s
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: Top Death Metal Groups
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:14:17 GMT
Disclaimer: Death before disco
	<1992Nov15.123443.16361@newstand.syr.edu>
	<1992Nov15.213723.21472@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Pikametallimiehet (Speed Metal Men), Finland


> In article <1992Nov15.213723.21472@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:

> And let's not forget Cannibal Corpse.  I personally like the first
> two albums (_Eaten Back to Life_ and _Butchered at Birth_) better
> than the new one (_Tomb of the Mutilated_).

 I have heard their first two albums and IMHO this bands is the worst I have
 ever heard. Even Deicide is better than this (although they suck too)

> I also would like to second a few of Mega's:  Bolt Thrower and
> Fear Factory.  Incredible.  I gotta go against the Pestilence
> album though--I just can't get into it.

 I don't like Bolt Thrower's early stuff at all. Too fast and noisy for me
 but on "War master" they have slowed down a bit and it really works out.
 "Unleashed...(upon mankind)" is a real killer.
 It's nice to hear that there are people who have heard Fear Factory too.
 (Well I heard FF first time just a week ago) but I had to bought their CD
 and it is really great. They really are something different and they surely
 need some more fans. This band is too good to be missed. Really nasty tracks
 but they still have their own style. The vocalist is amazing; one time his
 voice is sick as hell and then he suddenly starts to sing with thin and
 high voice...
 Pestilence made one helluva record. A little time ago I got their "Consuming
 Impulse" album but this ain't half as good as "Testimony of the ancients".
 Their debut sounds like 2ns class Kreator so it's not worth of getting.

> Another band that some consider death, though I don't really, is
> Atheist.  _Unquestionable Presence_ is one of my favorite albums
> *ever*.  They can seriously play.  Same goes for Sadus' _A Vision
> of Misery_, although I like Athiest better.  Both albums have
> death-y voices, but chops galore.

 I didn't know that Atheist has put out another record. I thought they were
 split up a long ago. "Piece of time" is a good album (even it's sounds
 like Coroner's "R.I.P."). Guess I have to check it out.
 I have heard Sadus "Swallowed in black" but it didn't impress me. They only 
 tracks I can remember are "Massacre of the unborn" and "Freezing torment"
 Maybe they have made more interesting songs with their later albums...

 
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From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: This Music-type casting argument
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:53:35 GMT

In article <BxxDCq.9v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mheniff@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (heniff michael j jr) writes:
>What's with all this categorizing?  Why not set up two categories, good and 
>bad?
>
Do you think it would work? Even the worst band in the world have some 
fans out there who would not accept his fave band to be put in the
category of _bad_ music.

                                  -Mat

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