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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: HP Laserjets under Unix
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:39:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.171046.8086@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>I am trying to configure a variety of HP Laserjets under Unix (BSD-like).
>The first thing that bit me was that apparently they can't be configured
>to map LF to CR-LF and a filter must be used.  (Could someone please tell
>HP that having this configureable on the printer is a good thing?)

In response to this article I have received a bunch of e-mail telling
me what Escape sequence to send to the printer in order to tell it to
map LF to CR-LF.  Thanks for your help, but I did not ask for a command
to put the printer in a special mode: I asked for a configuration option
so that when I power my printer up it is in that mode.

As it is, you have to have a filter, either to map the LF to CR-LF or a
filter (or initialization string) to send the Escape sequence to insure
that the printer is in the right mode.  Except for the HPs, most printers
that I have used allows you to set a DIP switch to control LF mapping.
Most printer makers seem to understand that this is a good feature for
a printer.

HP allows you to set number of copies and page length (at least on the
Laserjet II) through the configuration options on the LCD.  These seem more
like Escape sequence type options than LF mapping as most software is
capable of handling this and it seems job-dependent whereas LF mapping
is unlikely to change once the printer is powered up.

>Now, I have things working well on a Laserjet II, but the same setup
>doesn't work so well on a Laserjet IIIsi.  
>
>What are the differences between the different Laserjet printers as far
>as sending regular ASCII text files to them goes?

Several of the people that have responded by e-mail, mentioned things
like fonts and the like.  That is not quite what I had in mind.

I have a filter that I use to map LF to CR-LF and terminate the file with
a form feed.  I run the filter with the input being a file that I want to
print and the output being the device file for the printer.  When the
printer at the other end of the cable is a Laserjet II, the setup works
fine.  Then the printer is a Laserjet IIIsi, I get no output.  As a matter
of fact, communication across the parallel port hangs.

The Laserjet IIIsi is usually hooked up to another system that it works fine
with.  I have no access to software that the other machine uses, so I cannot
look for differences between what they do and what I do.

Any ideas?

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold)
Subject: Re: Add memory for HP DJ500 ?
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:11:12 GMT

From article <Bz7zAs.9y4@waterloo.hp.com>, by rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma):
> Dennis Peterson (dennis@pete.uucp) wrote:
> : windows would take advantage of the added memory for downloading

> No to both questions. The DeskJet printers use their memory cartridges
> only for soft fonts - if you're not using them, don't waste the money

This answer is correct.  For the newbie, further explanation is in order.

The DeskJet series has some internal fonts.  These are fast to use, but
limited.  You can add cartridges, from HP, or others, that contain hardcoded
fonts, fast, but still a little limited.
You can add RAM, and then download soft fonts to the extra RAM.  These are
ultimately fast, but they are cumbersome to use, and require downloading
each time the power is cycled on the printer.  If you forget to download,
your printout is ugly (useless).  They take a substantial time to download;
and in my case, I have too many to fit in RAM, so I must selectively
download the ones I want.

The extra RAM that you might add is used for nothing but storing fonts.  It
does not improve graphics speed.  It does not add to the print charcter
buffer capacity.  It is only for font download.

Some font drivers send the print page as a graphics image.  All of the fonts
can be manipulated at will, since they never exist in the printer as fonts,
just a graphics printout.  This is extremely flexible, easy to configure, 
brainless to use.  It is a little slow, perhaps dreadfully, for some fonts,
because printing the graphic image of a particular character is much slower
than telling the printer to refer to a resident font to print a character.
This is the method that Windows uses.  It will gain nothing from a RAM
cartridge.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: yoav@seas.gwu.edu (Yoav Intrator)
Subject: HP LJ+  (Laser Jet Plus) ??????????
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:45:51 GMT

Hello all,

I was offered to buy a used HP LJ+ in a very good condition with 2 font cartridges.
Please help me answer the following questions:

1. What is the market value of such a printer (used)? 
 In other words, how much I should pay for it? 
	
2. Is there a way to find out how many pages were printed ?

3. can this printer can be upgraded to postscript ? and if so for how much?

4. The owner is not sure of  how much memory it has. How can I find it out?  

5. Memory upgrade for such machine is it still possible and for how muchg?

	
I need your responds as soon as possible.

Thanks in advance

Yoav
yoav@seas.gwu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: myoung@mail.boi.hp.com (Matt_Young)
Subject: Re: HP Laserjets under Unix
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Alan F. Perry (esprit@netcom.com) wrote:
: I am trying to configure a variety of HP Laserjets under Unix (BSD-like).
: The first thing that bit me was that apparently they can't be configured
: to map LF to CR-LF and a filter must be used.  (Could someone please tell
: HP that having this configureable on the printer is a good thing?)
etc...

There is an escape seqence to map LF to CR-LF.  It is called the Line
Termination Command and looks like this:  <escape>&k3G
This is described on page 6-15 of the PCL 5 Printer Language Technical
Reference (Updated version) and is probably in the back of your users
manual too, but I don't have one handy to check.  (<escape>&k0G is the
default setting for this command.)

Matt Young (myoung@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com) Hewlett Packard Network Printer Div.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:54:36 EST
From: Tom <TMW108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Is Okidata OL400 LED printer ok?

Does anyone out there have experience with the Oki OL400... I'm looking
for a cheap, decent laser printer or LED... If not... any suggestions for
a printer under $1000?

Tom
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: K1.ARC@isumvs.iastate.edu (Arnie Cowan)
Subject: Re: HP DJ500 Printer, MS Windows and Plotter fonts (+ Inkjet quality problem)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:26:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec08.140628.28017@uvmark.uucp>,
roger@uvmark.uucp (Roger MacNicol) writes:
>PS The new HP printer driver for the deskjets (3.0) gives much cleaner output
>than the MS unidrv but it won't print envelopes!!! it just form feeds the
>envelope out and prints the stupid address on the next sheet of paper - argh

Are we talking about the Windows printer driver 3.0?  I can print
envelopes with it, at least from Word 2.0.  However, I have to turn
off "reverse print order" first for some reason.
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From: jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: HP DeskJet 500c and GhostScript 2.5.2
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:56:06 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de


hi,
 
for all of you out there who have that HP DeskJet 500c:
if you like to see how good this printer CAN work, get 
GhostScript 2.5.2 and print a 24 Bit-Color-Image with the
cdjcolor driver. IT'S SIMPLY GREAT !

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From: diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com (Warren R. Diamond)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Notepad in MS-Windows and HP LJ4 driver
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:29:18 GMT
Reply-To: diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Yoyodyne


Just got my new HP LJ 4 printer. Hooked it up to a Gateway 486dx2,
downloaded the lj4 printer driver from the MS BBS, and then tried
to print a small text file from Notepad while in MS Windows 3.1

Every time it prints, the first 4 characters from each line are missing.
I tried printing using the HP IIIp driver instead and no problem. All
characters show up with the IIIp driver.

Has anyone else tried the lj4 driver with Notepad and seen this problem.
Is there an obvious setting or non-obvious setting to try.

By the way, things print perfectly fine with MS-Write, and from
the DOS command line using (ie. dir>prn).

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Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo CA
diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Subject: QMS printer drum damage
Originator: luisg@lugano
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:06:48 GMT


My QMS 6320T printer drum was damaged by someone unjaming a piece
of paper wirh a screw driver.(WARNING for all)
 
QMS wants $2,300 for a new drum. How can this damage happen? Why is the
drum not protected?

The symptoms of drum damage are little "dirt marks" on printouts
in one corner of the page. Is there a way to fix drums more cheaply?

Is it worth reparing this machine or is it now obsolete? Original
cost was more than 30,000.

Thanks in advance

luis
luisg@hadar.fai.com
From: jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: RE: Re: Should I Buy a Color HP Deskjet 500C and where?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 12:57:24 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de


>>>
From: rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma)

...
DJ550C is the better choice if you want to print both black (black black)
and color on the same page (or document for that matter) without switching
ink cartridges. The newer 550c has both black and color available together.
<<<

yes, that's o.k. BUT:

if i use a 500C for many text-printings and only few color-printings
(most privat user will do so) the color-ink cartridge will NOT
dry, because it is hookt to it's box.

doing this with a 550c, will dry the color-ink cartridge because
it allways moves with the black one and is exposed to air.

am i right ?
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From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: hp4 problems
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:48:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

The following was posted on the pagemakr list, and I thought it would
be appropriate for this group.

* It also gives me a painful feeling in my gut because I just purchased
* Aldus Freehand and have a HP4 Postscript SIMM on order that is due
* to arrive today.... Read on. I hope I don't regret the day I purchased
* my HP4...

>listserv.pagemakr:
>Subject: TAN: The HP LaserJet 4M ... No not more banter, info stuff.
>From: JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU (Jeff Bone)
>Date: 16 Dec 92 13:13:55 GMT
>
>Good articles in PC Week, Mac Week, et. al. this week regarding problems with
>the new HP LaserJet 4 printers.  In summary:
>
>    1)  The new Canon BX engine used in the LaserJet 4 has a different paper
>        path than the older SX engines and is prone to an unusual amount of
>        paper curl.  HP is looking into it, but at this point recommends not
>        to manually duplex with the new engine and to use 24 lb paper.
>
>    2)  Many reports of case problems on the new printer which uses a lighter
>        grade plastic case.  Biggest problem appears to be the tray inserts
>        and the flip top breaking.  HP acknowledges this problem as well and
>        attributes it to early models, although InfoWorld's article stated
>        that they had had a similar problem with a model shipped to them in
>        the last week.
>
>    3)  In appears that HP's implementation of PostScript Level 2 is not
>        solid.  Granted they are using an Adobe licensed technology, but the
>        story is that HP tweaked the code to get the best speed with the i960
>        controller that they use.  In so doing this has created incompatibili-
>        ties with the Apple dict found in Laserwriter driver 7.1.2 and with
>        the Aldus dict used by FreeHand 3.1 and 3.11.  For no reason the prin-
>        ter will flush even fairly simple jobs created by programs such as
>        Adobe Illustrator 3.2, FreeHand 3.1/3.11, and PhotoShop 2.5.
>
>    4)  Numerous reports of the autoswitching function not working properly
>        and the printer begins "spitting" out hundreds of blank pages before
>        it can be reset.  HP isn't acknowledging this one, so it could be a
>        bad batch of controllers or an obtuse configuration procedure that is
>        causing users to mis-configure.
>
>Hope they work this out, you pay the price for being on the "bleeding" edge,
>but this printer will set the standard for the next level of affordable
>desktop lasers.
From: rmeck@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: IBM PC Graphics Printer commands??
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:21:22 -0500

Having lost the manual for my IBM PC Graphics Printer I am in dire need of a
few printer control commands these are:
Initialize Printer / Deinitialize Printer / Auto Pagination Off / 8 Lines Per
Inch / Compressed Font On / Elite Font On / Left Margin 10 Characters/ Double
Strike Mode.
I would very much appreciate your help.
Reinhard Eckloff
From: brd@images1.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Barry Drodge)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Opinions / Questions on Canon BJ-200
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:59:07 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA


 I am considering getting  a Canon BJ-200 printer and would like to hear
what others think of this unit.  The print seems to be pretty good,
probably due to the new 64 jet head.

i will be using it mostly with Windows applications and would therefore like
to know if there is a winsows 3.1 driver for this unit.

It will emulate a BJ-10ex but that seems kind of like a waste, since I think the BJ-200 has greater resolution.

Thanks,

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From: robbie@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: thinking of buying HP 3P+ printer, good idea??
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:23:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine


I'm thinking of buying a HP 3P+ printer which I will hook up to my 486 PC.
I may buy the postscript cartrige in the near future. Is this a good
printer? Comments, criticisms, etc. are greatly welcomed. 

Robert Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: rocco.valotta@bville.gts.org (Rocco Valotta) 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: INTERLEAF PRINTER
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2200+ conferences
Reply-To: rocco.valotta@bville.gts.org (Rocco Valotta) 

Ok I have this lazer printer (an interleaf with 8/300 engine) that i
want to set up for my ibm. It has a tcp/ip interface card. I would like
any help on setting this printer up.
                                                                              
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: mramsell@gandalf.ca (Mark Ramsell)
Subject: Data Products LZR 960 opinions
Keywords: laser 
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:39:03 GMT

I have noticed a 9ppm lazer printer in the back of Computer Shopper for
$1399 from USA Flex.  What I want to know is, how do you like yours?  Are
you happy with it, how often do you have to replace the toner and how
much memory did you install to print documents/drawings?

Please send Email to mramsell@gandalf.ca 

Thanks,
Mark Ramsell
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: greimann@ravel.udel.edu (John B Greimann)
Subject: Oki printer for Commodore 64
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:24:10 GMT

Hi,

	I've got an old OkiData 120 (serial?) printer that originally came
with a Commodore 64, and I'd like to use it with an IBM-PC.  I was wondering
what conversion/dip switch settings need to be changed to get it to work...


Any help would be appreciated...


					Thanks,


					Brandon
From: mark@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Mark Van Overbeke)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: IMPACT postscript printers
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:27:45 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris

Is there such a thing as an IMPACT Poscscript printer?  If so, who
makes it?  Any pointers appreciated.  Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: HP Laserjets under Unix
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:10:46 GMT

I am trying to configure a variety of HP Laserjets under Unix (BSD-like).
The first thing that bit me was that apparently they can't be configured
to map LF to CR-LF and a filter must be used.  (Could someone please tell
HP that having this configureable on the printer is a good thing?)

Now, I have things working well on a Laserjet II, but the same setup
doesn't work so well on a Laserjet IIIsi.  

What are the differences between the different Laserjet printers as far
as sending regular ASCII text files to them goes?

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: KyleHor@bmerh9d4.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: DIY Deskjet Refill
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:00:13 GMT

In article <5k+r5bj@lynx.unm.edu>, wiseman@groucho.mrc.unm.edu () writes:
|> Before you try this, you may want to know that you can buy refill kits for
|> the HP Deskjet 500, rather than mixing your own.  They are quite a bit cheaper
|> than replacing the cartridge.  The man at the office supply store selling them
|> here locally told me that he would only refill a cartridge twice before 
|> replacing it totally.  I  don't remember his specific reason.  
|> 
|> These are not an HP item, and I don't recall who makes them.  But if no-one
|> can figure it out, I will be a nice guy and drive over to the place and get
|> the manufacturer's name and item number, etc.

Any similar kit for the Canon BJ catridge ?  

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
Subject: Should we buy a HP Laserjet 4?
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:34:30 GMT


    My lab is going to purchase a new PC and printer. Since I have been
hearing about the LJ4 alot, I thought it might be a good idea to buy one.
We need a printer mostly for text, simple drawings, and making labels
for figures. We want the new printer to be useful for years to come, so
I hesitate to get an older model.
    We have the money, but I though it might be overkill to buy the latest
model. I thought it would be a good idea to get input from some people
who follow these things more closely. Any suggestions?

   Comments to e-mail. I'll summarize if there is interest.

Thanks, 
DanZ

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From: egreen@waggen.twuug.com (Eddie Greenside)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Tektronix Phaser III PXI Color Laser Printer Forsale**
Summary: Laser
Keywords: Color
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:26:39 GMT
Organization: Brite Systems








Selling printer, like new condition - only 10 months old with 4000 pages
printed.  It weights approx 90 lbs with a dimension of 13x28x35.  Installed
with 10 megs of memory fully compatiable with all Macintosh and IBM systems.
A print resolution of 300 Dots per inch with a paper size of 4x6 to Tabloid
11x17... also prints transparencies.  Prints 1 - 8 minutes per page.
Printer is both serial and parallel with appletalk comp...
Printer comes with adobe postscript level 2.  Also, excepts Hewlett Packard
graphics language files.  Also prints entire pantone chart (Customizes all
colors on the pantone chart).  Ink Jet technology with non-smere.
This also includes 400 dollars worth of ink.  Comes with all manuals and
transfer sheet for warranty.  I will pay for shipment.  Im asking for $7000
considering I paid a $11,400. If interested or you have further questions
then feel free to e-mail.
 
Im selling this printer becuase I dont have enough volume printing to
justify the cost of the printer.