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From: liam@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (William Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Timings from times()
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:53:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <jhb.703235664@galois> jhb@maths.su.oz.au (John Brownie) writes:

>I realised after I posted it that I still had my screen saver running,
>so I tried the packages without that (but still in multi-user mode).  I
>still get the occasional wild fluctuation, but the times are reasonably
>consistent.

>An example of a fluctuation:

>Run:		     1		 2	     3		 4
>Real time:	2:37.4	    2:28.3	2:32.6	    3:37.3
>User time:	2:02.3	    2:00.7	2:03.5	    3:00.6
>Sys time:	  14.7	      14.2	  16.1	      20.3

>Running the different test paackages in single-user mode is very
>informative.  Not only are the times consistent across invocations, but
>they are 10-15% faster!  For example, the package shown above takes
>1:44 in single user mode.

>Is the overhead of things such as polling the mouse doing this much?
>Or am I missing something here?  I would guess that the extra time is
>due to context switching, but I am just guessing!

Silly question - were you running a Finder session? It doesn't poll the mouse, 
but it certainly spends an unpredictable amount of time polling the file 
system to see if anything interesting has happened to it.... I bet the amount 
of variation increases with the number of folders you have open...

It would be interesting to see the differences between a Console session, a 
Finder session and an X11 session - if you have one.
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From: pfterry@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Install A/UX 3.0 (GM) on a LPS240Q
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:18:58 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <kunlguINN9aj@skat.usc.edu>, rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou) writes:
> I tried to install A/UX 3.0 golden master on a Quadra 700 w/20 meg RAM
> LPS 240 Quautum(sp?) HD. but failed. the problem could be there is no
> entry for this HD in a/ux's installer disk table. I dunno exaclty.
> 
> anyone? installation was sucessful on a ci, haven't tried to install
> it on that LPS 240 w/another machine besides the HD's owner(the Quadra
> 700). tried formatted it into a/ux partitions w/silverlining, but a/us 
> still won't install. 

I had what might be a similar experience with a Panther 1.4g drive
formatted with the Alliance Power Tools software. The software is
written by Apollyonics Development and bundled with all APS drives.
What I discovered is that the A/UX partitions were created correctly,
but they weren't initialized. Using some instructions I found on
CompuServe, I was able to initialize the partitions by hand and then
Apple's installer would work.

If you like, I can email you those instructions.

pf


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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1930 Constant Ave., Lawrence, KS  66047
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From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX Terminal Server for MacOS/AppleTalk Clients?
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:04:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr12.201654.15827@reed.edu> barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith) writes:
>We are a MacOS shop installing an A/UX system for mail access (mostly).
>So far, we're only AppleTalk connected; no Ethernet at all.
>(This will change, but not soon enough.)
>
>We would like to use our Macs and AppleTalk network to access our A/UX
>system, but "usually reliable sources" tell me that terminal access/servers
>don't work over AppleTalk, only over Ethernet.
>
>If this is NOT true, and AppleTalk access IS available (free or commercial),
>I would appreciate pointers to specific software/suppliers.  Thanks!
>
>Barry Smith, Blue Sky Research
>barry@reed.edu

To access UNIX with terminal or use it as a server, there are
usually two ways: 1. through serial port, like RS232, or
2. through network.

Services like telnet or ftp can work over either network or
serial lines as long as TCP/IP has been implemented on  any
one of them.  On A/UX, TCP/IP is available through ethernet
or serial port through SLIP, but NOT through AppleTalk.

Therefore, there is no way to access A/UX service through 
AppleTalk.

This is actually an FAQ.  People expect it to be implemented
after 3.01.  (Not even 3.0)
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Timings from times()
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:02:11 GMT

jhb@maths.su.oz.au (John Brownie) writes:

>I have been testing various combinations of compiler (cc/gcc 2.0/gcc
>2.1) and optimisation levels on a particular program, using a set of
>test packages.  The confusing thing is the times reported by times()
>(and also by the time function from shell).  I can run the same package
>twice in a row with nothing else happening on the system, and get a 10%
>variation in reported user time.  This is significant when the package
>takes an hour to run!

Do you mean that when you run a program that takes 60 minutes to run, the
1st time it takes 60 and the second it takes 66 (or 54)? This _does_ seem
excessive. Now if you run simple benchmarks (like dhrystones) twice (or more)
in a row then you _will_ see some variation. For examine, here's some runs
on jagubox for dhrystones (NOTE: this was in multi-user mode):

     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
     This machine benchmarks at 15873 dhrystones/second
     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
     This machine benchmarks at 15957 dhrystones/second
     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
 >>  This machine benchmarks at 15151 dhrystones/second << a sync happened
     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
     This machine benchmarks at 16216 dhrystones/second
     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
     This machine benchmarks at 16129 dhrystones/second
     [usr2/tmp] $ ./dhry
     Dhrystone time for 50000 passes = 3
     This machine benchmarks at 16042 dhrystones/second

This only produces (excluding the sync related reading) of maybe 2% or so.

My guess is that something is happening even when you think it ain't. Try
this under single-user and see what happens.
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       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
From: vlb@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Has anyone used an Ikegami monitor?
Date: 3 Apr 92 17:38:51 GMT
Reply-To: vlb@apple.COM (Vicki Brown)
Organization: Apple Computer A/UX Engineering

I'm interested in the possible purchase of a 2-page monitor.  Has anyone used
an Ikegami grey-scale 19" monitor with A/UX.  Do you like it?

The reported pixel resolution (1068 x 724) seems a bit small for a 19" monitor
and the refresh rate (60 Hz) also seems low.  But what do I know :-)
   Vicki Brown   A/UX Development Group		Apple Computer, Inc.
   Internet: vlb@apple.com			MS 35RJ, 20525 Mariani Ave.
   UUCP: {sun,amdahl,decwrl}!apple!vlb		Cupertino, CA  95014 USA
              Ooit'n Normaal Mens Ontmoet?  En..., Beviel't?
        (Have you ever met a normal person?  So..., did you like it?)
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From: beard@ux5.lbl.gov (Patrick C Beard)
Subject: Accessing Modem from A/UX
Reply-To: beard@ux5.lbl.gov (Patrick C Beard)
Organization: Berkeley Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:28:34 GMT


Has anybody written a tiny program to access the modem from A/UX? I just
want a program that connects me to "/dev/modem" and gives me a raw, non-
blocking data stream to the modem. I want this so that I can share a modem
with people who log in to my machine via telnet. The programs provided
with A/UX don't seem to work properly. I don't want dialing. I just want
character by character transfer to the modem.

If nothing like this is available, what calls would I make to open this
device in the proper mode, etc? I've tried various combinations of fopen,
open, etc. and none of them buffer properly. I'm considering using MacOS
calls to the serial i/o if necessary, but I assume that unix calls would
be faster.

Thanks,

Patrick Beard
Berkeley Systems, Inc.
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From: pbuck@tcs.com (Peter Buckner)
Subject: Re: starting X11 server from CommandShell
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:55:09 GMT

John wrote, in response to a related query:
|> >>Fatal server error:
|> >>ioctl I_STR VIDEOMAP_SLOT failed
|> >>giving up
|> >>xinit: Connection refused (errno 81): unable to connect to X server
|> >>xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
|> >>can't ioctl(): invalid argument
|> 
|> Both of these should be made FAQs (if they're not already). You can't
|> start the X server from within CommandShell; both the X server and the
|> MacOS emulation environment want total control of the screen/keyboard/
|> mouse. You need to start it from Console Emulator or from a session type
|> for X (if you've installed my sessiontypes or Apple's X11 product, there
|> should be entries in the Session Type menu for X).

However, I'm seeing this ioctl problem when trying to run from the X11 session.
Problem is I've moved A/UX from my old (small, slow) hard disk to a new (big,
fast) disk. I used SCSI partition copies, using a tape as the intermediate
format (using ExpressTape, under MacOS). New partitions are same size as the
old ones, A/UX appears to run great. X no longer runs. I've even reinstalled
the Apple X11R4 product, to no avail: Still get ioctl I_STR VIDEOMAP_SLOT 
failed. I have changed video boards, and I'm running with more RAM and an
Apple cache card in my ci -- no other differences from when it used to work
(sigh).

Any ideas?
From: cchd@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au (Huw Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: The PowerBook 140-170 and A/UX 2.+ discussion ...
Keywords: A/UX 2.01, PowerBook 140-170
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:38:20 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1992Apr3.235719.29945@nic.umass.edu> a0s5101@titan.ucc.umass.edu (in use) writes:

>As I recall, Sony had such a beast, complete with significantly better
>than 640x480 graphics.

Indeed they did. I had one on evaluation for a couple of weeks but they
made me give it back :-( It was a nice machine (R3000@20Mhz, 140Mb?
disk), but there are a number of drawbacks.

1) The screen was very slow in updating - I kept looseing the mouse, but
it was nice to have X at home!

2) It isn't portable (mains power required) and it weighed more than a
Mac Portable or even a Toshiba 5200.

I still think Apple should supply a port of A/UX for the PowerBook
series. I would be prepared to put up with the lack of ethernet and even
the short life between recharges to have a Unix system that I could take
home (or to the beach) on weekends. If Apple can't get this out the
door, I'll just go and buy a cheap 386 notebook and use that instead
(this is the concept of Open Systems at work for you).
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From: spock@abraxas.abraxas.adelphi.edu (Sven Dietrich)
Subject: Re: A/UX Terminal Server for MacOS/AppleTalk Clients?
Organization: Adelphi University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:36:37 GMT

tjferrar@mcs.drexel.edu (J 'have a jet ski' Ferrara) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.010427.1718@acsu.buffalo.edu> yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr12.201654.15827@reed.edu> barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith) writes:
>>>
>>>We would like to use our Macs and AppleTalk network to access our A/UX
>>>system, but "usually reliable sources" tell me that terminal access/servers
>>>don't work over AppleTalk, only over Ethernet.
>>>
>>>If this is NOT true, and AppleTalk access IS available (free or commercial),
>>>I would appreciate pointers to specific software/suppliers.  Thanks!
>>>

[...]

>Isn't there a French company that sells software to do this?

Yes. Cornut Informatique in St. Etienne, France. AppleLink: CORNUT.INF
Internet would be CORNUT.INF@APPLELINK.APPLE.COM ?

Sven

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From: huguley@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Probs with xxgdb/gdb
Date: 6 Apr 92 08:52:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: uservx.1992Apr6.085234.32687
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

I'm having trouble with xxgbd/gdb.
Using xxgdb 1.01 (from mdbx 2.1 patch level 2).

Created file test.c:
		#include <stdio.h>
		main()
		{
       		 int i = 5;
        		printf("Hello world!");
       			return(1);
		}
Then cc -c -g test.c
then cc -g test.o

When xxgdb a.out I get message "No Source File" and indicates "no debugging
symbols found".
If I xxgdb test.o I get message "can't read optional aouthdr"
If gdb (v3.6) is used on its own get same errors.

And YES the a.out, test.c and test.o are there.

What gives?  Please help.


ThanX,
Carl.
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huguley@uservx.plk.af.mil                     PL/LITT
(505) 846-0169                                Kirtland  AFB, NM 87117-6008
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: AUX print driver
Keywords: System 7
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:00:43 GMT

beser@aplcomm.JHUAPL.EDU (Nick Beser) writes:

>This is probably a good question for the FAQ. My A/UX version 2.0.1 system
>is on a network with macs running System 7. In order to prevent the printers
>from complaining about mixing system 7 and system 6 versions on the same
>net, we use the System 7 compatible print driver. Is there a print driver
>for A/UX that will do the same thing? Do I just copy the System 6 print driver
>to the System folder on the A/UX system?

Actually, it _is_ in the FAQ :)

You _can_ use System7 printer drivers under A/UX 2.0.1... just copy the
correct files over (LaserWriter and LaserPrep)...

Simple.
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          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: haluska@woody.uucp (James Haluska)
Subject: Setting Active Application
Organization: Command Control Automation Project, JPL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:36:44 GMT

I have written an aux program that allows X window applications to be 
started by double clicking on the X window applications icon. This program 
basically gets a COMMAND resource from the resource file used to start 
the application and the fork's and execs the process (represented by the
COMMAND resource). The whole process works very well accept for one annoying
detail. Since MacX is not the active process when the X windows application
connects, unless if your desktop is clear you don't realize that the
application is running and connected to the server.
	
  My question is can I tell the Mac OS finder to make MacX the active process
when my application exits. (i.e. after my application has forked and exec'd the
X window application that I want to run). How would I do this? 

  Thanks in advance, please respond by Email.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
J. Haluska                                         haluska@woody.jpl.nasa.gov
From: rudim@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Rudi Maelbrancke)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Screen Capture For A/UX 2.0.1
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:34:30 GMT
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen K.U.Leuven

Is there someone out there who has a public domain screen capture DA which
works under A/UX 2.0.1? I have one Screen Capture V. 4.0 but this one seems
not to work. Key-events are not trapped!

Rudi Maelbrancke
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: 4MB SIMMS in MacII
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:58:37 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

cstruble@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Toaster Strudel) writes:

>Ok, I just stuck in 4MB SIMMS into my vintage '88 Mac II, and A/UX 2.0.1
>recognizes only 8MB while System 7 recognizes the full 20MB I now have.
>Do I need to get the FDHD upgrade in order to get A/UX 2.0.1 to recognize
>the full 20MB, or is there some bit twiddling I can do in order to get
>this to work? Also, if I can't get it to work with A/UX 2.0.1, will it work
>fine with A/UX 3.0? Since I may be able to upgrade to 3.0 shortly, and with
>much less of a punch to my funds, this may be another option.

As I recall, you _do_ need the FDHD Upgrade for A/UX to see the 20MB (actually
to allow A/UX to recognize the use of SIMMS > 1MB).

As far as what 3.0 will see...???
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 711.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: An A/UX old-timer considers throwing in the towel
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:16:43 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr13.185838.7052@intacc.uucp> mann@intacc.uucp (Jeff Mann) writes:
>various bugs.  We've got a full newsfeed coming in over a Telebit at
>19200, and I still can't get it to work consistently -- it transfers a
>number of batches then dies.  The problems with uucp and the serial
>ports are a nightmare for a bbs operation.  I bought a Digiboard serial
>adapter which has its own 68000 cpu on board and half a meg of buffer
>memory, which I though would solve the problems, but it's even worse
>than the built-ins.  I can't get it to transfer more than a few kb of
>news over the telebit before uucp dies.  Yes, I know what flow control
>is.  It doesn't seem to help.
>
>We had originally planned a '486 SCO UNIX system, but A/UX looked more
>attractive as far as software features and price (and MacOs to boot).
>But the hardware was expensive, and the i/o problems make me wish I had
>stayed with the '486 idea or got a Sun.  At the time I thought a sun
>would be a lot more expensive, but now...  probably a Sun, unless A/UX
>shapes up in the connectivity area.
>

We have a very similar situation like yours.

Our BBS needs more serial ports, so a Digiboard Nu/4i is bought.
After using it for a while, lots of problems showed up.  Unexpected
death of the ports in charge of in-coming calls, especially when
either the built-in port or another Digiboard port is used for dial-out 
through cu.  Also UUCP is said to be imminent killer of the port
just like what you experienced on it.

Our solution is buying a Sun.  It's just came all of a sudden when 
somebody wanted to sell us a SparcStation 1+ at the price of an LC.
SunOS is a proven product on the market with decent HDB UUCP .
The machine has two built-in serial ports  which can handle
hardware handshake and modem control _at the same time_.

An Asante NuBus ethernet card is coming in  the next few days.
We will use Mac II (with Digiboard card) to run the BBS (Waffle),
and Sun will be used to get e-mail and newsfeed through UUCP.
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Where is 2nd Mac OS Partition?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:53:56 GMT

evans@cayman.com (Christopher Evans) writes:

>If you have a second Mac disk (not your main A/UX disk) and this disk has
>2 mac partitions on it, can you get both of them to show up in the A/UX
>finder?
>I haven't been able to yet....  Any ideas?

A/UX (2.0.1) can only "see" the 1st MacOS partition on a disk... usually.

Tony Cooper has written an application which attempts to mount any other
MacOS partitions that may exist on your disk. Look for it here, at jagubox,
under ~ft/pub as HFSmount.tar.Z

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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 711.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: AUX print driver
Keywords: System 7
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:50:15 GMT

I ramble and incorrectly state:

>I _did_ forget that you should also install the System7 version of the
>Print Monitor application... This will be fixed in the FAQ.

Oops... I _do_ mention it :)

Anyway, #19 has been a _little_ rewritten to state what we just found out:
LW 7.1 and 7.1.1 don't seem to need Laser Prep...
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       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge)
Subject: Update 1 for gcc 2.1 now available
Reply-To: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:21:50 GMT

Update 1 for A/UX gcc-2.1 is now available from wuarchive
(systems/aux/gnu/gcc-2.1.update1.tar.Z). To install update 1, go to your
library executable directory (either /usr/local/Gnu/lib/gcc/aux/2.1 or
/usr/local/lib/gcc/aux/2.1) and untar the update file.

Update 1 replaces the 'ld' frontend program with a new one which fixes a
problem which causes ld/collect2 to coredump with some input files. It
also creates collect2 as a link to ld (or vice versa; ld is really
collect2 from the gcc 2.1 distribution).

Thanks to Craig Struble for providing the patch. Sorry it took so long
to get out; I've been in heavy-duty thesis-writing mode. Hopefully
that'll be over soon :-).

--John

        Let your mind go, and your body will follow.
                -- _L.A._Story_

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu++May:coolidge@apple.com++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
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