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From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Re: PAL in USA
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:23:59

>>>>> JOHNN@tiger.hsc.edu writes:

> jimth writes -

>> Can anyone out there tell me if a recording done in NTSC can be
>> converted to PAL.  I would like to send personal video messages to
>> Australia.

> 	Yes indeed.  See the ads in the back of almost any video
> equipment magazine.  The service can be expensive and many converter
> operators use low quality, inexpensive machines.  Ask for
> references.

Many new mid-to-top range new PAL VCRs (eg. my brand new Blaupunkt,
bought yesterday ;-) can read NTSC tapes and display on a PAL TV. Not
well though,... you'll get a jumpy and/or rolling picture (caused by
the frame rate differences?), as well as dark stripes above and below
the picture (instant letterboxing ;-), caused by the NTSC 525-lines
vs. the PAL 625-lines difference.

- Steinar
From: deastman@vnet.ibm.com ("Don Eastman")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Pioneer CLD-95 Laser Combi Player
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:48:59 GMT
Reply-To: deastman@vnet.ibm.com (Don Eastman - IBM, San Jose, C

I was in Laserland today (Sunnyvale, CA.) and they are having a Pioneer
authorized sale, selling the CLD-95 for $1699 through Sunday 8/30.  They
will not quote prices over the phone but I thought I would post this
information for those who live in the Bay Area and are contemplating the
purchase of this unit.  Retail is $1999.00 and seldom reduced.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle)
Subject: PAL in USA
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:01:14 GMT

Hello-

I was just wondering. A friend of mine buys a lot of video
casettes from USA and they are all on NTSC.
He says they're not awailable in PAL.

So the question is: Do the Americans really care about PAL users,
                    what do they think of PAL ?
                    
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green)
Subject: Re: PAL in USA
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.090727.5563@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> ees1mw@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK (Mike Willis) writes:
>In article <TML.92Aug27180216@tiuhti.tik.vtt.fi> tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.140114.21427@hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes:
>>   I was just wondering. A friend of mine buys a lot of video casettes
>>   from USA and they are all on NTSC.  He says they're not awailable
>>   in PAL.
>>
>>   So the question is: Do the Americans really care about PAL users,
>>
>>(I guess you mean American video distributors, not American people in
>>general...)
>>
>>Why would they? Not very many Europeans have the slightest interest in
>>ordering videos from the US. It is after all much more complicated
>>than going down to the local video rental outlet and pick up a
>>cassette for the night.
>
>No, sorry not possible, at least for the UK. Video films have to pass the
>British board of flim cesnsors before sale in this country. Sounds a bit
>like wartime doesn't it. Anyway, USA standards of Decency, violence etc
>are considered (by the censor) to be lower than are own so importing films
>for sale is not allowed. Therefore for A USA distributor to advertise in
>the UK films for sale mail order that were not UK censored, would be a no
>no. You could end up in prison for ordering somthing you shouln't.

Yes, but whats to stop a US distributor advertising in a US magazine that
you happen to find on the shelves of a UK newsagent? The distributor hasn't
broken the law, and probably wouldn't mind selling stuff to a UK punter.
Customs, however, could get a tad exited....

-- 
* Steve Green     *  "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outa my hat!"    *
* Comms Group     *  "That trick never works"                            *
* ITS Branch      *  "Nothin' up my sleeve - PRESTO"                     *
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From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Toaster TBC
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:26:57 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation

rgainey@AUSTIN.ONU.EDU writes:

>Question...
>        What are your recommendations for a low to mid-range (price) time
>base corrector for an Amiga Toaster? Should I go with "stand alone" TBC or
>"card"? Would you suggest dealers in the midwest? Thanks.
>.....

I'd go with a standalone for more control & better quality.  Hotronics are
available from about $900.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com (Alan Edmonds)
Subject: Re: Coming out of the closet...(Widescreen opinion)
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. - Plano, Tx
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:33:01 GMT

In article <19F3PB28w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick) writes:
>
>I vote THUMBS UP for LBX!

I got the LBX/CAV version of "Silverado" (a truly great western),  In one
scene, Kevin Costner walks out of a saloon and shoots two "bad" guys
simulateously.  Kevin is in the center of the screen; and the two guys are
at the corners of the saloon.  (Diagram below) I would really hate to see 
this in P&S format.  It would really loose a neat effect.  


Top View:


      Bad Guy 1   |
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  \
                   \-------------------
         Kevin                 Bad Guy 2

      /
Camera Location

-- 
Alan Edmonds                                     Texas Instruments, Inc.
I don't speak for TI; TI doesn't speak for me    M/S 8513
Work phone: (214)575-6427                        6620 Chase Oaks Blvd.
Email: alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com                   Plano, Texas  75023
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: volker@nsc.nsc.com (Volker Soffel)
Subject: Re: Sony Vdeck, Vbox, and your PC - a match made in heaven?
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:47:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.014758.3683@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
>This is all raw data which may be in error and I am looking for some input and
>help... 
>
>Sony seems to be putting together all the parts for a dynamite editing system
>based on RC time code and the use of a (personal) computer.  Key elements... 
>
>VISCA - "Video System Control Architecture" - This is a device control
>language that is designed to control LANC (Control-L) devices.  You send the
and also control S
>
>I personally find the possibilities in this technology mind boggling.  For
>about $1,600 and your computer (I plan on using my VAXstation but most folks
>will use a PC/MAC) you have a frame accurate editing system.  You should be
$1600 seems a little bit low to me- remember you need at least 2 Vboxes
(one for the source deck and one for the record deck) to get an edit system
That's alone already $440.-
>
>I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THE Vbox AND
>THE Vdeck UNITS.  LETS GET A NET DISCUSSION GOING! 
The big problem is the SOFTWARE. No software is included when you buy a Vbox,
Vdeck or whatever. As the whole concept is pretty new and Sony just recently
released the "final" VISCA specification you will have a hard time finding
any software that's able to control all this beautiful stuff.
I agree with you that the concept is very appealing, however it will probably
take another year until we'll have a choice of supporting software (at what
price? could be easily another $400...600.- ).

-- 
Volker Soffel			National Semiconductor Corporation
volker@nsc.nsc.com		Embedded Control Division Applications
(408) 721-4360			Santa Clara, CA95052
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Advice on Sony tr-81 vs Canon UC1
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:10:09 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video, zaveri@apple.com (Ameet Zaveri) writes:
>I am trying to decide between buying the Sony TR-81 (or clone) or the Canon
>UC1 camcorder. Any advice on which is better and why?

I very strongly recommend the TR-81 over the USC1.  The TR-81 has a
much better lens.  The zoom will hold focus thru its range, but the
UCS1 will not.  The 1/2" chip onthe TR-81 actually gives better imaging
and a wider field than the 1/3" chip on the UCS-1.  The TR-81 was rated
tops by Consumer Reports.

 I personally chose the TR-81 for my personal videomaking after looking
at a lot of alternatives.

   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LD-players with genlock and TBC?
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:43:13 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <Btwr5C.25A@fc.hp.com> rjn@FC.HP.COM writes:
<also emailed...
<
<> Are there any LD-players ( consumer or professional ) on the market that
<> output fully time base corrected RGB and can be externally synchronized?
<
<You didn't specify a video standard.  There are essentially only two for LD:
<  M/NTSC 3.58 525/60
<  PAL 4.43 625/50
<I'm not aware of any NTSC LD players with RGB out.
<Some PAL players with SCART may have RGB.
<All LD players have TBC, few have digital TBC.
<No consumer players have sync out, much less genlock in.
<Some industrial players have genlock.
<Your best bet (NTSC) is probably the Pioneer LD-V8000.  It has digital
<TBC, full frame store and external sync in/out.
<Several rec.video and comp.multimedia readers have LD-V8000's.

A little mis-leading piece of info here.  I don't know of any professional
piece of equipment that has sync out, unless it is a SEG (video mixer),
test equipment or a sync generator.

What I'm saying is that any gear that needs sync doesn't have sync out.  Yes,
the above three things I mentioned can normally be externally locked as well,
but gear that provides video signals, i.e., cameras, VCRs, VTRs, LD players,
etc, can have external sync in, but none of them that I know of provide any
kind of sync out.  They are video picture sources, not sync generators.

You may be mistaking the labeled connector "sync" as meaning sync out, but I
can pretty much bet that it is sync in.

Did any of this make any sense.
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                                   brown@wi.extrel.com
From: dhs@cs.utexas.edu (Douglas H. Steves)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LaserDisk Storage and ROT (FAQ question?)
Date: 27 Aug 1992 20:07:01 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: manx.cs.utexas.edu

In article <55887@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> davepat@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Dave Patterson) writes:
>I have a bit of a problem brewing now...  I've noticed that many
>of my prized disks seem to be rotting:
>Three questions, (plus a little):
>1)  Should I expect this from all laser disks?  (Should I just
>    rent lasers and tape them?  Should I pack it in, sell it
>    all, and just go back to tapes?  :( :( )
No. Maybe. No.
I have laser disks from 1985 that are still fine. Most laser disks
do not degrade noticeably over time, in my opinion.

>2)  Is the way I have them stored incorrect: 
No.

>    Should they lie flat one on top of the other?
Absolutely not.

>3)  Shouldn't I be able to return these disks, (and I *did* save
>    the receipts!), to the place of purchase for another, (even
>    though it has been almost a year for a couple of these)?
Yes. Pioneer has been very good about replacing disks that they
pressed. And if you get Bob Niland's articles on Laser Disk stuff,
one of them tells you how to do so. A better strategy is to do what
I (and many others) do: buy your disks from Sight and Sound or 
Starship or some company which offers a lifetime warranty on the
disks. It is certainly more convenient for them to return the
disks to the manufacturer, and they also have the market power
to do so. This, obviously, doesn't help you with your existing
disks. Criterion also stands behind their product quite well.
I don't know about the others.

>Very depressedly (is that a word?) yours,
I don't recommend depression.
One thing I do recommend is to be very picky about what you
*accept* when you *buy* a disk. My opinion of the QA departments
at most major disk pressing plants couldn't be printed in a
family newspaper. Since this is not a family newspaper, I ...
well, you get the idea. That makes *you* the QA department.
Do not hesitate to return disks for any defect that bothers you.
You will not get used to it over the years, so you might as well
return it right away.

Doug
From: kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: splitting cable signal
Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:09:45 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.usc.edu


A friend of mine wants to split his cable signal to feed 2 TVs.  However,
when he does so, the signal is quite degraded.  Is there a way to boost
or amplify the signal.  The cable company charges an extra $8/month to 
install a second hookup which seems excessive.
-- 
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Kim Daugherty                   | PhD program in Computer Science   |
| kimd@gizmo.usc.edu              | University of Southern California |
+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CLD-970 question...
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:05:41 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:

>The CLD-980 was replaced by the CLD-990, which has been replaced by the
>CLD-201S.  I still recommend the 980 when they can be found.  Send for
>article LD#91 for more info.

The CLD-201S is in the new Service Merchandise catalog for $398
and can be had mail-order for just under $300

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: daver@felix.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Brazil (WS) LD
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: daver@fritz.filenet.com (Dave Richards)
Distribution: rec.video
Organization: Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Aug27.154403.1110@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>In article <BOV.92Aug27102116@essex.x.co.uk> bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon) writes:
>>This film has to be one of my all time favorites, so does a version,
>>preferably widescreen, actually exist???
>
>1) BRAZIL was not filmed with an extreme widescreen (anamorphic) process
>according to what I can find about it.  It was probably filmed in a
>1.85:1 (or so) ratio and may have had the mattes opened up for 1.33
>presentation on video.

Being from the other side of the Atlantic, I would expect the film to have 
been composed for 1.66:1 (The same as Gilliam's later "The Adventures of
Baron Munchausen").  So viewers in the U.S. probably didn't see all the 
picture (ask the projectionist in your local googol-plex if they have 1.66:1
aperture plates as well as 1.85, and the typical response is: "what?")

>So the current versions may show all the image
>available, just not what was presented in the theater.

That would be my guess.  The only reason for a "letterboxed" (actually mat-
ted) version would be to jump on the letterbox bandwagon.  Unnecessary in my
opinion.

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Toaster article
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:41:18 GMT

A magazine can't get any better when it has a cover story on TWIN PEAKS and a
big article of the Video Toaster in the same issue (at least for me).

AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER has an excellent article on the Toaster as a
post-production tool for film and video.  They look at BABYLON 5 and talk with
Ron Thornton about the different techniques used.

If it was just another computer magazine, this would be no big deal, but this
is AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER!!  A magazine that is highly respected in the
film/video-making industry.  This magazine does not deal with kiddie/desktop
video stuff.

Anyways, check out a copy of this issue, it is very informative.  
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: A Final Resolution: Color splotches in LD
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:09:55 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


	I have, I believe, limited the problem to the TV. I had
to go to a language lab here at Columbia in order to find another
LD player, but I did and the disc played fine. The final test,
however, had me hook up my LD player to two TVs simultaneously,
and only my main TV showed the discolorations.

	So most likely I'm in need of a degaussinator. The
repairman will be coming on Friday. Thanks to everyone who gave
advice, but this is the best possible problem -- you see, my TV
is still under warranty and comes with in house service. 8)
	-- Ethan


purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
From: dondd@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Don Dillon)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:54:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Pioneer 2080 Problems
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.video

 I have a 2080 and experience none of this.  take it in for repair.


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From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:16:12 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood) writes:
> Here's what I got from them:
> 
> Enrollment    List    Paid
> selections:
> Star Wars              $70    $1.50
> Empire strikes Back    $70   $1.50
> Return of the Jedi     $70   $1.50

I did the same thing ... if you are going to spend the bucks on LD's,
I think it's a good deal.

Judy
From: brucer@gold.gvg.tek.com (Bruce Rayner)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Battery for Sony TR-71
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:55:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Aug24.201506.16374@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> paresh@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (paresh.shah) writes:
>
>I am thinking of buying Sony TR-71 camcorder. I am 
>also thinking of buying the extended battery from
>Radioshack rather than the Sony batteries. Has anyone


The 1500 mah RS battery (14.95 this month) is a great deal. 
As good as any other battery I've used.
From: long-morrow@cs.yale.edu (H. Morrow Long)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SVHS Tapes Bulk Order.. Where?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 17:56:31 -0000
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.cf.cs.yale.edu
Keywords: Where can I get em?


In article <canywwb@rpi.edu>, lalibr@jec305.its.rpi.edu (Ron Scott Laliberte) writes:
|> Well, even though I bought my VCR locally, there seems to be no place that
|> sells Super VHS tapes... Radio Shack says they will order them, but
|> I really don't want to get stuck with junk tapes..
|>   So the question is, what tapes are worth the $?  And who can I bulk
|> order them from?  Id prefer a COD place, but Ill take whatever I can get!
|>   Thanks
|> Scott
|> 

I recommend Maxell XRS 120s.  You can get them for around $7.25 from
Smile Photo in NYC.  It and another bulk tape mail order place
are listed below:

Smile Photo (NYC)      1-800-366-6993  SVHS tape, Y/C cables
Tape World              1-800-245-6000  Butler, PA, tape in qty

					- Morrow
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Video Tape Encoding Signal
From: <RICKE@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 09:09:08 CDT
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

There is a signal recorded in the part of the picture that you see when your
vertical hold control is mis-adjusted.  This is basically just a block of very
bright white.  This doesn't affect most televisions, but when you attempt to
make a copy with another vcr, the internal, automatic video level controling
circuits see this white and attempt to compensate.  This produces the kind of
dubs you are describing.  The reason this doesn't happen with a broadcast
signal is that the broadcasters use that same area of the picture for
transmission of test signals, teletext, data,  and other services.  In addition
they more than likely do receive a copy of the program that isn't encoded.  I
believe there is more than one copy protection scheme, but this is the one I am
most familiar with.
Dale
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: denton@ssd.comm.mot.com (Perry Denton)
Subject: Pioneer 2080 Problems
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:57:43 GMT

I recently purchase a Pioneer 2080 LD player, demo-model,
clearanced at $390.  Thought it was a good deal, checked
it out at the store, and bought it.

But when I got home, I noticed how noisy the machine is.
At startup, it whines and whizzes very loudly, and during
play sounds like I am camping listening to crickets.

I just want to confirm with somebody that this is not 
normal.  I have a 980 (which I used to think was a little 
noisy) and the 2080 dwarfs the 980 in noise volume.
I was hoping the 2080 would actually be quieter.

I assume something is misaligned and that I can get this
repaired under warrantee.

Thanks for any info,
Perry

-- 
Perry Denton
Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois
Internet: denton@ssd.comm.mot.com       Phone: (708) 576-4479
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter)
Subject: A/V Pro-Logic Receivers--new models, 70mm sound
Summary: A/V Pro-Logic Receivers--Info wanted on the new models
Keywords: audio video pro-logic receiver new model
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:40:18 GMT

I just got done narrowing down my choices for a good A/V pro-logic
receiver to build an a/v system around, and the new models start
coming out... 

So, I need info on the new Yamaha, Denon, Technics, Sony, and Pioneer
A/V Pro-Logic models.

	- Are the new Sonys 'fixed'? 

	- What is this new 70mm theater mode?  An expansion on Pro-Logic?
	  A step closer to THX?

Once again, any info appreciated!  Post or email, I will summarize again
if anyone is interested.

Thanks!!
Mike
-- 
mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Coming out of the closet...
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:19:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <BtMnx8.1I7@egsner.cirr.com>, datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
> 
> >Incidentally, 16:9 is the same as 1.77:1. So for a 1.85:1 ratio film,
> >you're only losing about 4% of the image.  Obviously this is not a big deal,
> 
> Yes, it *is* a big deal, just like Academy films getting chopped to NTSC.
> I've noted a number of times that text -- eg., credits and newspapers --
> gets truncated.
> 
> 

Actually, I agree with you completely, but usually if I say such a thing
I get blasted!  And the problem with Acadmey to NTSC is not as bad as it
will be for 1.85:1 to HDTV!  I've got a wait and see attitude about HDTV,
but my initial impression is that it will make for great TV, but make the
situation for movie transfers much, much worse.  I expect to see letterboxing
dissapear completely, because distributors will think, "16:9 is close enough"
even for 2.35:1 and wider films.....

Steve

Steve