HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Diane.Pilkington@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Diane Pilkington)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: R/OP fonts
Date: 4 Dec 92 19:51:04 GMT


 -=> Quoting Tim Of Angle to Diane Pilkington <=-

 DP>  ... depending on
 DP>  whether Tadhg's computer will do the R/OP fonts,...

 TOA> Tadhg's computer will do more fonts than your ROP ever dreamed of....

 Aodhan can tell you what fonts he has the program currently
 set up for. If we can get it formatted in fonts that produce
 roughly the same results, and are standard to all three (Aodhan's,
 Dathi's, and yours) printers, I'll have to spend much less time
 driving back and forth in my car...always a plus. 

 Serena


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From: Michael.Van.Meter@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Michael Van.Meter)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 6 Dec 92 10:35:10 GMT

Hello Marv!

Answering a msg of <Friday December 04 1992>, from Marv Cotton to All:

    Mystic's Mountain Maximus is receiving this Echo.


        Live Life Lovingly!
        Michael Van.Meter
From: Tony.Jordan@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tony Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Survey
Date: 9 Dec 92 00:22:06 GMT


        One more time...

        In fourty words or less: Why did you join or form a household or
similar organization?

        All responses appreciated, I'm researching an article and not having
much luck.  If you really need more than fourty words, so be it.  Thank you for
your time and effort, in advance.

        Tony Jordan (SKA: Jester of Anglesea)
        "Beer! Beer! Beer! cried the Kinsmen."
From: David.Lyle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (David Lyle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Titles
Date: 9 Dec 92 00:26:22 GMT

SW>David doesn't like the SCA, or anything associated 
SW>with it, and therefore
SW>takes every opportunity to accuse us of whatever.

 LG> Is there a reason why he doesn't like the SCA?  I'd like to know before
 LG> I join in anything.

Don't let him put words in my mouth.  I have a lot of problems with the SCA. 
All due to problems I've encountered in dealings with said group.  I won't go
into specific details here since the SCA folk like to deny any problems, and it
just causes flaming on the echo.  Just understand that there are a LOT of
medieval gaming groups out there (and the SCA is technically a gaming group),
try some out, and you'll likely find one or two (or dozens, like me) that you
enjoy.  It's just that the SCA is not one of the dozens I take part in, and a
lot of folks feel the same way...
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:25:00 GMT


  MV>Hello Marv!

MV>Answering a msg of <Friday December 04 1992>, from Marv Cotton to All:

MV>    Mystic's Mountain Maximus is receiving this Echo.


MV>        Live Life Lovingly!
MV>        Michael Van.Meter

MV>--- GoldED 2.40.P0720
MV> * Origin:  Mystic's Mountain Maximus - Elkins Park Pa.  (1:273/709)

  Thanks Michael.
      Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Mark.Eric.Stein@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark Eric Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Ah, there you are!
Date: 8 Dec 92 20:46:18 GMT


 RW>  Yes, here I am, sprained right hand and all.  I'm a 
 RW> leftie, but still need the

Geeeef. How did you do that one? Has it been a careless Vashti? Tch...

 RW>  Law School, eh?  My husband, Tadhg, would commiserate 
 RW> with you on that one, as
 RW>  he aendured his way through it too.  Keep on plugging 
 RW> away. You'll get there.

Plug plug plug...yours probatively is simply not a quitter. :)
I'm in the middle of a mock trial exercise now...driving me crazy, but my
co-counsel has a head on his shoulders and I'm not entirely sure the prosti...
ahem, prosecutor does. ;)

 RW>  Glad to be able to brighten a day --- that makes ME feel good too!

Nice to know what you're good at, isn't it? <silly grin>

 RW>  Music Institute, somewhere on the East Coast? which runs about $400 for
 RW>  tuition and board.  I don't think that crashing 
 RW> offsite is an option there.

Even so, if it's moderate-to-close it might be an opportunity to visit that's
just too good to pass up...we'll see how things develop.

 RW> June.  I can get details
 RW>  closer to time and post them.  

Sure enough. Same bat-time, same bat-channel. Pardon me, I have to go to
the bat-room. <slap> Bad Marco, no biscuit...

 RW>  Have lost my job as of the end of this year -- so may 
 RW> not have the money to
 RW>  attend any of my interests next year.  We'll see, once 
 RW> I'm employed again.

Eeep...poor Vashti. Sorry to hear...I wish I could say something encouraging,
but I'm in <shudder> New England. Thinking seriously about the Maryland bar
exam, I am, just because it's good to have regional options.

Yrs &c.
        Marco
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Hmmm... my device submission is missing?
Date: 7 Dec 92 13:27:13 GMT

JD> Someone out there must know what the status of my device is... please?

Sure ... it was returned in January of 92. (8-))

Your device submission (Sable a fess wavy between three lions passant and a
bordure argent?) was on the Trimaris LOI dated 15 July 92 (item #24) and will
probably be ruled on by Laurel in October.

    Tadhg, Obelisk
From: Paul.Goodnough@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Paul Goodnough)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Dec Populous meeeting
Date: 6 Dec 92 18:32:00 GMT

Unto Alastair does Cu send greetings.
Refe.  Will they "throw out" those who can't afford?
            I was thinking of how these @&#*$(%&^% resturants think of profit
margins and paying clients. I Happern to be one whom can't afford much if
anything .

Refe. Why on mediavel and not on Local SCA?
        Anfter scanning both on usage by the local populous ,mediavel had more
of the locals commenting on a more frequent manner , so i thought the word
would get out quicker that way.

                        In Service to Bjornsborg,   Cu
From: Kate.Herdt@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Kate Herdt)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Romano-Brit Costuming
Date: 5 Dec 92 03:42:00 GMT

Greetings all..
    I am in need of some assistance.  I need to outfit my lord husband and
myself in suitable, stylish clothing for Twelfth Night court (by this Twelfth
Night) that would have conceivably been worn by gentlefolk in the British Isles
between c. 450-600 c.e. (Gloucestershire and Anglesey, respectively, if one
needs more precise information).  Any help in this matter would be most
appreciated.
                        Many thanks.

                             Eidhnean


p.s.  Any information/sources on naming practices from the same time period
(location:  Anglesey/Western Wales) would also be of great help.
From: Diane.Pilkington@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Diane Pilkington)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Training?
Date: 4 Dec 92 08:10:00 GMT


 -=> Quoting Mark Eric Stein to Dathi <=-

 MES> Generally,
 MES> anything in which somebody else is going to be stuck with the results
 MES> requires some training or oversight. 

 Generally, indeed. Certainly doesn't apply to scrolls. I've been
 taken to task by my patrons very recently because I've had the
 audacity to create a well-executed scroll for someone.
 Now, don't get me wrong; I respect them greatly and love them
 dearly. I just don't see why I should do anything less than my best
 just because almost everyone else is turning out dreck. I plan on
 making my own achievement scrolls so that I don't get "stuck with
 the results" of random effort. (More importantly, so I have work
 I can show without having to beg people to strip their walls...)

 I just re-read the above paragraph. I need to amend my comment to
 "because almost everyone else is turning out -nothing-." *sigh*

 MES> So why does there seem to be the
 MES> kind of dilettantism about Being A Herald that you so pointedly point
 MES> out? (Yes, I heard the sigh under that. I'll shut up now.)

 Hmmm. I think that "dilettantism" is widespread throughout all
 aspects of the SCA, not just Heraldry. This is the direct result
 of the fact that most of us simply don't have the time to devote
 ourselves to full-time study of whatever, because we're too busy
 making a living or going to college. Ahhhh, if only I could be
 paid to do research...

 MES> ... Never argue with anyone who buys ink by the gallon.

 I don't buy it by the gallon. I do, however, have a box full of
 nice period pigments, like vermilion and orpiment...

 Serena


___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
From: Julia.Sidebottom@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Julia Sidebottom)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 9 Dec 92 04:54:26 GMT

We are still here at New Life in Sterling Heights MI.  Also this echo is
carried on Twin Star II in Waterford Mi.
From: Hans.Pieterse.Van.Houten@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Hans Pieterse Van Houten)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: New to this stuff
Date: 5 Dec 92 15:17:00 GMT

> so would be a breach of courtesy in that you've claimed
 > a "title" that was never presented to you.  However, I and
 > the
 > rest of the SCA's "Knowne World" can address you as "Milady
 DL> 
 DL> That would be fine too.
 DL> 
 DL> Lady Guinevere or shall I be Milady Guinevere right now.

Introduce yourself as Guinevere.  Others may address you as "milady".

 
... Si hunc legere potes, nimis propinquus es.
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Misc. nattering
Date: 5 Dec 92 13:55:21 GMT

SW> > Lady Stellar Scroll now has a complete backup of the Zodiacus

 SW> Please to inform, what is dis Ly Stellar Scroll please...

Margaret. (You know, Margaret...)
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 1STDAYS
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:27:00 GMT

BH>A message from Marv Cotton on 12-03-92 to Mike Osborn included this:

BH>MC>  Mike, could you move these messages to a different area?
BH>MC>     Thanks,
BH>MC>       Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator

BH>Marv, it appears that the troops won't be calmed 'til they get their game
BH>located.

BH>I'm signalling you, Marv, as only in the past few days was this echo
BH>activated at my request by the sysop of a nearby state university.  I've a
BH>sister in Arizona who has an adult daughter missing and I couldn't help but
BH>wonder if something might come of
BH>looking into the matter via this mode.

BH>For that, I may be in the right "church," but the wrong "pew."  I have on
my
BH>desk a copy of a document that mentions Don Rittner, "...president of the
BH>not-for-profit Computer Users for Social Responsibility
BH>(CUSR)...electronically scanning the photos of
BH>more than 300 missing children in Child Find's files...."

BH>You'll note the tag line of this msg to you refers to the HyperCard stack
BH>I've scripted for communications in this mode.  The article I cited above
BH>alludes to Don's work on a HyperCard stack "...that allows the viewer to
BH>[obtain] information desired by c
BH>licking buttons on the screen.

BH>If you're associated with Don or know of his work, can you advise me re his
BH>progress in that effort?  I've another concept I'd like to mull over with
hi
BH>and am eager to contact him.

BH>I'd appreciate any assist you might render in this regard.


BH>---
BH>RSVP v. 1.1i <an email HyperCard stack!>
BH>--- FMail 0.92
BH> * Origin: NIU Connection (815)753-1800  (1:11/70)

  Sorry Bob, I'm not familiar with Don Rittner.  We do scanning at the
  Heidi Search Center using and HP Scanjet and a Logitech 256 shades
  scanner and then creating GIF Flyers, but not a Hypercard.
    Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Christer@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Christer)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Brigantia ILOAR
Date: 3 Dec 92 14:34:00 GMT

I wrote that:
> [Brigantia returned] "On a square sail per bend azure and argent a
> sun counterchanged"

And Herveus d'Ormonde responded:
> Actually, this is not fieldless armory. Ship's sails were used as a
> ground for display of armory. If the submitter were to offer this design
> on a standard badge form (a roundel), it could then be displayed on a
> sail.

But that would only be grounds for returning it if the sail was used to
display arms of pretense, wouldn't it?

        Lindorm Eriksson
From: Bruce@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bruce)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Appelgarth & E-Mail
Date: 3 Dec 92 07:24:52 GMT

Fairfax writes:

<A gentle in my canton just had the house name "House Appelgarth" returned by
Lord Dragon for conflict with Applegarth, the home of Merlin in _The Last
Enchantment_ by Mary Stewart.>

Is the name formed in any sort of Period manner?  "Appel" I understand (or
think I do, anyway), but what's a "garth"?

As for the "conflict" ... I would agree that Dragon is perhaps being a
little over-zealous.  But that sort of thing _does_ ring alarm bells in a
lot of commenters ....

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fairfax also writes:

<A second question--how many people on the Laurel roster have e-mail access?
I am sure of 17 people, (9 on the mailing list), 14 of whom definitely read
the
list (or have at some time.) I ask because I wonder about the feasibility of
people with e-mail access sending their commentary over e-mail to those who
can recieve it.  While this wouldn't make a _huge_ difference in volume, it
would be a small advantage (especially to someone like Decion.)  Can any of
the commenters comment on this?>

I'm not so sure that it would be an advantage for me.  Since I access
Internet via CompuServe, I can't e-mail binary files.  Plain ASCII would
work, of course, but it's not to my taste.  Also, multiple large postings do
nasty things to my Compuserve bill.  Since it's my employer who pays that
bill, it could get awkward explaining just why I feel the need to use the
account in this manner ....

Also, commentary by e-mail is fine in an informal forum like this, but for
the purposes of Laurel decisions is perhaps not the best way to approach
things.

The flip side of the coin has a lot of merit though.  The flow of
communications between Crux Australis & Vesper has been _tremendous_ simply
because we both have CI$ accounts ... it's saved me a _fortune_ in
International telephone calls.  So much so that my successor as Crux (only a
month to go, yippee) is seriously considering taking out an account.  I
expect similar benefits to flow when Laurel finally organises _his_
Compuserve account (when he runs a phone line into his new study, according
to what he told Vesper the other night).

The summary is that it really wouldn't save me that much money, alas, and
would save me very little effort.  I like using e-mail to talk to people,
but I'm really not sure that it's appropriate for the commenting process -
 not at this stage, anyway.

Decion
Crux Australis

P.S.  I must apologise if any of my postings appear with odd subject lines.
I have switched software to save money (I now use OzCIS, and it's chopped my
Compuserve on-line time by more than half) but the mail system treats
Internet list-mail strangely.  To reply to the list, as opposed to
individuals, I have to manually edit my out-mail but by doing so the subject
line gets screwed up, and I still haven't figured out why.  (Composing new
mail seems to work fine, as far as I can tell, it's just when replying to
Internet mail that things get screwy.)
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Underground-Abducted Kids
Date: 9 Dec 92 02:45:00 GMT

MO>Does anyone have any information on the Underground either run by Faye
MO>Yaeger or the one that split off from them.  Also,  do they have any
MO>ties to a similar Underground in Europe?  My former spouse abducted by
MO>4 year old daughter in March 1992 and is alleged to be with the
MO>Underground or starting one in the U.S. or Europe.  She used to be a
MO>Vice President in Telecommunications at Wells Fargo Bank in San
MO>Francisco and left with $150,000 Cash to start a branch of the
MO>Underground?  I held Joint Custody and was getting close to full
MO>because of some of the tactics she used to try and get custody.  Two
MO>Private Investigators linked to the Underground have assisted her,
MO>James Curtis of Oregon (his daughter was caught and is standing trial
MO>) and the other Hal Lipsett of San Francisco.  Please provide me any
MO>information you can for the benefit of my daughter.


  Martin, we do have info for you on this.  Someone will be calling you
  from the Search Center.  We can also be reached at 1-800-880-3463.
    Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:26:00 GMT

RL>*** Quoting Marv Cotton to All dated 12-04-92 ***
RL>>   This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems to
RL>>   have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.
RL>>   Also any suggestions or tips?

RL>I'm still here, Marv.  Everything looks good!

RL>ps.. a user from my system inadvertently posted an off-topic message
RL>in this area.. my humble apologies to all, and please delete it from
RL>your systems.  Thanks!!

RL>--- T.A.G. 2.6c1 Standard
RL> * Origin: -=*HeavnBBS*=-Pearland,TX(713)996-5352 (1:106/5352@FIDONET.ORG)


 Thanks Ruth.
   Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Ruth.Woodring@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Ruth Woodring)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: lecherous females
Date: 5 Dec 92 00:22:08 GMT


 RW> go for the kill, I  do it on the dance floor....(grin)  
 RW> Yes, another lecherous female - sigh!
 MES> What's this, are lecherous females in disfavor down 
 MES> your way? We never have
 MES> enough of them hereabouts.

 Alas, in addition to me -- I flirt rather aggressively, according to one of
 my conquests -- we have a young divorcee who's been rapidly working her way
 through all of the new men in the dance group.  I don't know whether to laugh
 or to leave her body in a cold dark alley......  She's not leaving any of
 them for the rest of the ladies.... (grin)  Tho she did back off when she 
found out the newest male in the group is only 19!  (And has already made a 
date with one of our 19 year old ladies! Fast working boy!)

 No - not many lecherous ones, but many beautiful ones that cause the rest of 
us wring our hands in despair.   There's a lovely married lady named Helen in 
my class who has the men fighting to dance with her -- and she doesn't really
 flirt outrageously, either.  A true lady, beautiful, generous, and kind.  If 
 she weren't maried with a baby, there'd be a full scale war to see who got to 
ask her out first!  Heck, if I were a man, I'd want to go out with her!  I 
 carried her favor in a tournament -- and a lot of the guys were annoyed -- 
they hadn't thought of asking her!

 -- Vashti, who like Mozart's Cherubino, doth love to be in love, and thus 
doth fall into that state most readily....especially when dancing
From: Craig.Vaughan@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Craig Vaughan)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: New to this stuff
Date: 7 Dec 92 19:03:41 GMT


  LG> Anyway back on target here.  (I must sound flighty right now) I used
  LG> to live in Florida.  funny how it is a small world sometimes. How do I
  LG> get in touch with someone who lives in this area (hopefully someone
  LG> out there is in this area and reading this), Centreville, Va, and can
  LG> help me from this end.

Milady,
It happens that I live in your general vicinity so allow me to offer some local
contacts to try...

The two groups closest to you are Shire of Stierbach and the Barony of Ponte
Alto. The seneschal of Stierbach is Lady Miriam Ester bat Issachar (mka: Ruth
Katz) and she can be reached at (703) 439-1348. The seneschal of Ponte Alto is
Lady Winifred Corbe de Wynterwood (mka: Marsha Goodell) who can be contacted at
(703) 533-8224.

Incidentally, I am the herald for the Barony of Ponte Alto and if I can be of
any help or service please feel free to contact me. My number is (703)
532-2782.

In Service,

Griffith ap Morgan ap Griffith
(mka: Craig Vaughan)
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: East Returns
Date: 5 Dec 92 14:13:44 GMT

Giovanni Fontananero wrote:
 G> From: Glenn Overby <uunet!COMPUSERVE.COM!76170.2212>

 G> Regarding the Brigantia returns--I am of two minds about this discussion.
 G> On one hand, I find the discussion of current decisions to be very useful
 G> in my education as a newish herald.  And I can sympathize with the desire
 G> to consult, and even to commiserate, with one's friends over some of the
 G> close decisions.  People do make mistakes, and informed 
 G> commentary may help with the preparation of a successful appeal of
 G> those mistakes.  (My first appeal is on its way as I write; the subject
 G> is near and dear to me at the moment...)

 Indeed so.

 G> But I fully endorse the idea that criticism of policy out of the
 G> hearing of the one who sets it is quite discourteous, and not at all in
 G> keeping with the standards expected within our Society.

 Nonsense. Are we never to discuss someone's actions unless that person is
 present? Few people are so obsessively punctilious in real life, and with
 good reason - that's not "courtesy", that's "unwarranted
 hypersensitivity".

 So long as the discussion is for the purposes of rational argument rather
 than gratuitous complaining, I see no possible way in which it could be
 objectionable. Let no one be under the misapprehension that *I* shall
 refrain from doing so, for a start.

 Do we carry it to its logical extreme and refuse to discuss SCA armory at
 all, because Laurel - no, because *every once and future Laurel King of
 Arms* - is not present? The technical term for this is "reductio ad
 absurdam", and it speaks for itself.

 Let us not fail to make use of such means of communication as we have
 available to us on the specious grounds that "well, everybody can't do it,
 so nobody ought to be able to do it." (Liberal rubbish....)

    Tadhg, Obelisk
From: ROBERT.FORGIONE@fquest.FidoNet.Org (ROBERT FORGIONE)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Missing Child GIFs
Date: 1 Dec 92 21:24:16 GMT

MC> I would like to remind everyone that the Missing Child GIFs are
MC> available through the FIDO Filebone, also distribution can be made by
MC> Freqing and returning the REQUEST.ZIP form from 387/622, 2612/107,
MC> 384/3 or 343/34.
 
MC>  INTERNET:  The GIFs are available for FTP from Halcyon.COM or Fquest.
 
MC>  RIME:  The GIFs are available through Russell Coombs.
 
MC>  GT or other Nets please get in touch with me to ensure the GIFs are
MC>  available to you.
 
MC> Everyone should ensure they have the most recent copies of;
 
MC>     CHILDMIS.ZIP  - Listing of Missing Child GIFs
MC>     CHILDFND.ZIP  - Listing of found Children.
 
 
MC>  Snail requests may be made through;
MC>   Marv Cotton
MC>  The Heidi Search Center
MC>  2402 Pat Booker Rd.
MC>  Universal City, TX 78148-3210.
 
MC>   Marv
 
 
MC> * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
 
 
MC>--- WM v2.04/92-0131
MC> * Origin: HEIDI Search Center BBS 210-659-2305 Univ. City TX(1:387/622)
Hello Marv:
     I am now carring the conference board on my BBS. Is there a
board in the New York City area where I can also request the Gifs
of missing children to post on the board also..
     I am wondering why with what we know and can do today why you
cannot put a ANSCII picture in the message with a description for
all to see when they are reading this conferance. Just a thought..
                                               Bobby
From: Cecily@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Cecily)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Garth
Date: 3 Dec 92 14:23:54 GMT

In reply to a question on the list, a garth is "1. The open court enclos-
ed by a cloister (in full cloister garth).  2. Archaic or dialectic. A
yard or garden."  -- p. 501 of The American College Dictionary (New York:
Random House, 1968), which happens to be the nearest dictionary to this
terminal.