From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: This Interracial thingy?
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 09:56:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.051956.29998@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
ejohnfel@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>	Dwight writes..
>>But naturally, Chinese-cu jerks think that this is okay and normal.
>	First off, they ain't jerks, second, its not, I am sorry to
>tell you this, but that is reality Dwight, people feel what they feel.
>You nor I have the right to tell them what they should think and calling
>them "jerks" isn't going to win any brownie points with'em, I submit
>Billy boy as my proof.

If Mr. Johnfelt actually read what I wrote, he would notice that I
did not criticize Chinese-ge boys for preferring to marry/date only
Chinese-ge ladies.  I also never once criticized anyone for preferring
to date/marry only members of a particular ethnic group.

In particular, we have
(1) Chinese-ge boys who prefer only Chinese-ge ladies
(2) Caucasian-ge men who prefer only Chinese-ge ladies.

I do not see anything wrong with #1 or #2.  What I do criticize is
the ignorant Chinese-cu hypocrisy, embraced by Chinese-cu Chinese-ge
boys, that condemns #2 but that approves of #1.  This is sheer hypocrisy.
That's all that I'm criticizing.

<straying somewhat from the main point>

Let me use another example.  I have pointed out, as Mr. Johnfelt
expertly notes, that the Chinese-ge jerks in China have been responsible
for murdering directly or indirectly at least 100 million people in this
century.  Sure.  This is ghastly; however, I do not believe that Chinese-cu
Chinese-ge people are responsible for crimes against humanity.  I also do not
believe that any Chinese-cu Chinese-ge people today, except those directly
responsible for the deaths (like many elderly Chinese-cu in the KMT 
party on Taiwan), should apologize for this.

In particular, we have
(3) current Chinese-cu Chinese-ge must apologize for other Chinese-ge
    Chinese-cu who murdered at least 100 million people (most being in China)
(4) current Japanese-ge must apologize for other Japanese-ge who
    committed atrocities in WWII

I disapprove of both #3 and #4.  What I do critize is the ignorant
Chinese-cu hypocrisy, embraced by Chinese-cu Chinese-ge boys, that
insists on #4 but that remains silent on #3.  So, I insist on #3
if the Chinese-cu hypocrites insist on #4.

<getting back to the main point>

In other words, I am condemning the hypocrisy of the position assumed by
people like Mr. Billy H. Chan (bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu).  He has condemned
#2 as being morally depraved but has endorsed #1 as being normal.

>>about Caucasian-ge men, you will find that many of those posts denounce 
>>Caucasian-ge men (and Chinese-ge women who go out with them) as being morally
>>depraved.
>	This too offends me greatly. I have seen Chinese/Japanese/Korean
>girls/guys on campus with few same nat. friends because of this interrac.
>situ.I think it is offensive, these are good people. And they certainly aren't
>depraved. And if a bit of interracial lust tickles their fancy, fine with me.

I agree with this statement 100%.  A person should be free to have preferences
(in marriage and/or dating); if someone prefers the Korean-ge look, then
that's absolutely fine.

The people who complain about Oriental fetishes are usually boys who are
Chinese-cu Chinese-ge (by their own admission in, of all places, the local
newspaper) and are, without qualification, bigots.  They insist that #2 are
jerks but support #1 ?!


>        And asians do (give a shit about their wives that is)? My GF worked
>in a Chinese restaurant where her Hong Kong born boss made several passes at
>her (of course not while his over bearing Cantonese wife was around). And
>made several references about setting her up in Queens with a brothel that
>hires asian college girls for services. Of course he admits to her that he 
>...

I am tired of hearing stuff like this.  Mr. Johnfelt's girlfriend should
send me e-mail; I'll give her some advice on reporting that Chinese-cu
bozo to the authorities.  These people have to be taught that in the 
United States of Almighty America, sexist crap like making passes at
a female employee or using virginity as a test of employment (which is
what China Airlines uses) is not tolerated.

Kick his Chinese-cu butt back to Hong Kong, where he can do all the
sexist crap that he wants and can get away with it.

>        But what if they don't, does this make THEM a bad asian/Chinese?
>Obviously not. To each his own, if Dwight wants to be caucasion, let him?
>If Michel Jackson wants to be caucasion, let him... If Joe Schmo wants to
>be a fat, 6 foot 1 transvestite with a pink mohawk, I say more power to him, 
>heck this is America, Land of the free, home of the truly weird.
>...

These statements are beyond the comprehension of Chinese-cu Chinese-ge
people, but non-Chinese-cu Orientals-ge can understand them.

If a Korean-ge wants to be German-cu, then more power to him.
If a Chinese-ge rejects everything Chinese-cu except Chinese-cu food
but chooses to be Korean-cu, then more power to her.  Why must Chinese-cu
Chinese-ge bozos criticize, brand, condemn a Chinese-ge because she doesn't
want to be Chinese-cu.  Why must those same bozos condemn Chinese-ge
ladies for wanting to date/marry Caucasian-ge men?

Why can't those bozos let people live their own lives as their see fit?
Why can't those bozos let "me be me", "him be him", "her be her", etc.?

I recently learned of a Japanese-American lady who married a Chinese-cu
Chinese-ge man.  Their marriage produced a son and resulted in a divorce.
After a little nudging on my part, I learned that one of the prime reasons
for the divorce was the sheer brutal emotional abuse that the Chinese-cu
jerk heaped on their son; that jerk refused to let "him be him".

<I won't get into the details, but they really are sick.>

Interestingly enough, the Japanese-American lady did not compel their
son to learn any foreign language; it was all up to him.  However, the
Chinese-cu jerk finessed the whole matter, and the son ended up learning
the Chinese-cu language.  When he speaks to his father, he speaks in
Chinese-cu.  Good G*d!

Let "him be him" for crying out loud!  You!  You!  You Chinese-cu jerk!

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