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From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: WHAT'S NEW FOR 92/93 at Colorado Ski Areas
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 23:07:00 GMT

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Here is another post from a co-worker of mine.

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO
mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu
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Subject:  WHAT'S NEW FOR 92 at Colorado Ski Areas

Greetings from the Colorado Skier

Following is a list of changes/improvements at Colorado ski areas
for the 1992/93 season based on our knowledge as of late July.   


WHAT'S NEW FOR 92 - EDITION #1


ASPEN HIGHLANDS  -  Will continue with the highly successful $30
     lift ticket (Aspen and Snowmass charged $42 last season).

BEAVER CREEK  -  Will add snowmaking on Grouse Mtn, which last 
     season was known as "Gravel Mountain".

BERTHOUD PASS  -  Has a new owner.  If all goes well with the 
   paperwork and permits, should re-open.

CONQUISTADOR  -  A sale is in progress.  Might make it by the 
   92/93 season.

COPPER  -  Looking at chairs for Copper Bowl on the back side of
   Union Peak, but not until 1993/94.

CRESTED BUTTE  -  Finally a quad chair, maybe even two!  But the
   area management didn't even know where they were going as of
   April.  Will replace either the Silver Queen cabin chair or
   the Paradise triple, or both.

CUCHARA VALLEY  -  Rumors of a sale, but nothing definite.

GENEVA BASIN  -  Rumors of a sale, but nothing definite.

POWDERHORN  -  May be sold, but if not, the bankruptcy court will
   continue to operate the area for 92/93.

SNOWMASS  -  The Burnt Mountain (between Elk Camp and Buttermilk)
   expansion starts this summer.  A new base with parking lot and
   at least one lift to start.  Eventually planning a gondola and
   five high-speed chairlifts

STEAMBOAT   -  Two high-speed quads with bubble tops going up on 
   Storm Peak to replace two doubles.  WJW chairlift, the "lift
   to nowhere", will be removed.

VAIL  -  A new triple chair in Sun Up Bowl.  Two rope tows to 
   help skiers up to the expanded Two Elk restaurant at the top
   of China Bowl.  New handle tow for the ski school at Golden
   Peak.  Wow, Vail is adding three - count them 3 - new rope
   tows.  Suddenly it's 1950!

WINTER PARK  -  A new double chair to open up 200 acres of the 
   Parsenn Bowl off the top of Mary Jane.  New restaurant at the
   top of the Zephyr, i.e, the top of the old Winter Park area.


Please feel free to add to this preliminary list.  The Colorado
Skier wants to know.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.202725.41961@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.144209.4142@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>> In article <122930154@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> I have some old K2 skis (195 cm).  I am tired of everybody and their mother
>>>> coasting past me on semi-flat slopes...
>>>>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>That's your problem!  Get off those semi-flat slopes onto something
>>>*steep*!   Then you won't have any problems going fast.  In fact, just 
>>>the opposite...
>
>Believe me, I would love to be on the steeps all day, but I have to get
>down the mountain somehow.  I couldn't find any blacks leading to the 
>base lift at Steamboat.  Also, I am trying to help my roommates learn how
>to ski.  They can't take the steeps yet, but by this winter, they better.
>
>>>
>>>John
>>>Personally I'd rather see him stay on his "semi-flat" slopes (is that kinda
>> self  contradictory?... flat+slopes?) and I won't have to worry about getting
>
>Sure, flat+slopes is contradictory, but that's not what I said!  I said
>semi-flat slopes.  Think before you followup.  
>
>> out of his way when he comes tumbling off some cliff on a steeper trail.
>> I'm perfectly happy NOT seeing some guy outta control on a black diamond trail
>> because he  got cut off by someone's mother (or grandmother for that matter).
>
>Christ, is this rec.skiing.nazis or what?
>
>> 
>> 							Happy Shredding!
>> 							Todd S.
>> 
Actually even Semi-flat slopes is a contradiction of terms... if something
is flat it is not a slope, and semi flat is like mostly dead or sort-of 
pregnant, Flat is a very specific term and I don't think that there are
different degrees of flatness, could something be half flat????

							Me again
							Todd S.

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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Ah hem....: How do I wax my skis?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:14:33 GMT

I need OS/2 like a need a hole in the head.
Any one of seven groups out there for you.....

In article <25997@life.ai.mit.edu> klaus@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu
(Klaus B. Biggers) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.190547.19585@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>Flat is a very specific term and I don't think that there are
>>different degrees of flatness, could something be half flat????
>
>Yes... ever skied Vail?...  :)

Oh come on Klaus! You have to encourage them!
Vail has fine slopes (and flats).  Those back Bowls (note the B)
are fine locations to ski, and the front sides: marvels

Ski Vail.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: nrp@btcase.bt.co.uk (Reece Peacock)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: St. Anton
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:02:33 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: British Telecom, Lion House, London.

First of all thanks to those who responded to my earlier query on a new resort to
pick for next winters ski trip. I now have a query about a specific resort.

It appears that the people in the group I am trying to organise would like to go
somewhere other than France, we have "done" the following so far:-

Alp D'Huez                  - 1 week
Val D'Isere                 - 1 week
La Plagne                   - 1 week
Les Deux Alps               - 1 week
Serre Chevalier             - 1 day
Trois Valleys (Val Thorens) - 2 weeks

It would appear that we may only have strong intermediates going now (although 
things may change), as such I have been looking for a good Austrian resort (cos
Switzerland looks expensive - unless someone can give me price comparisons against
the above resorts). As such St. Anton seems a good bet (according to the bumpf I
have read), for Austria it seems quite high, and has a high proportion of harder
runs. We can also go by train which suits us best. 

Could anyone comment on the place specifically:-

1) General cost.
2) Snow sureness - as much as one is ever able.
3) Size of the resort, as many of the quotes are for the entire Arlberg area.
4) The ease of connection for skiing around this area.
5) Apres ski.
6) Best time to go.
7) Any thing else you think important.


Thanks a lot in advance if you take the trouble to reply, I appreciate it.

Reece

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From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Why my skis are in crappy shape!
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:24:07 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


For Christ's sake!  THE SKIS WERE GIVEN TO ME IN BAD SHAPE!!!  That's
why I want to refurbish them.  Will all you Ski Bum Nazis calm down?
It's not like I could do anything to the skis for the past 11 years
because I didn't see them until a month ago!

On another subject,

does anyone have a phone number for the Gold C coupon books?

Thanks in advance,

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From: stamer@fang.att.com (Greg Stamer)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.bicycles,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: yakima vs thule opinions wanted
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:44:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: fang.1992Jul24.144433.24410
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL

>	The Thule has better locks. The Yakima locks just prevent the knobs
>	from being turned by using a deadbolt-type arrangement.

It depends on the model. I have a 3 year old Yakima SST rack for
gutterless cars that locks by disengaging the knobs. My Yakima gutter
rack locks deadbolt-style.

I routinely carry two sea kayaks with a combined weight of 130 pounds on
a gutterless car using a Yakima rack, including trips from Florida to Lake
Superior. I always use bow and stern lines. No problems.

There is a constant religious debate over which is better - Yakima,
Thule or Quick & Easy. They all seem to work fine as long as
you refuse to entirely trust them and use some common sense.

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From: iseman@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen Early)
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:29:23 GMT

>Yup!
>(At least I now know that I'm not alone in thinking this guy is a bona-fide
>Ski-But-Head, not a Ski-Bum!)
>							again
>							T.S.

Because he can't wax his skis?  Why don't you learn to spell before you go
labeling him a Ski-Butt-Head.  
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry
From: carnes@ico.isc.com (Steve Carnes)
Subject: Re: Closed Ski Areas in Colorado - Post 1
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Boulder CO
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:33:27 GMT

	mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace) writes:
>  BERTHOUD PASS - The oldest surviving (hopefully) ski area in 
>    Colorado.  Operated the first rope tow in CO in 1937.  Opened
>    the first double chairlift in the country in 1947.

This is interesting.  I started skiing in 1957 (at the grand old age
of 7), and all Berthoud had was a t-bar next to the lodge, and a
single chair across the road (servicing The Face, remember that
monster? :->).  Oops, sorry, cancel that.  It *was* a double.  It was
the upper chairlift at A-Basin that was a single.

You can add the rope tow at Chautauqua Park in Boulder to your list of
obscure ski areas.
-- 
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From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: The FAQ lives!
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:57:37 GMT
Organization: What, me? Organized?


            The rec.skiing Frequently Asked Questions List
                              -or-
   Everything you always wanted to know about skiing and were *just* about
   to ask by posting.

   The rec.skiing FAQ is a work in progress and is maintained by glen
   baker (glenb@sr.hp.com) Additions and corrections to the FAQ are 
   welcome. If you have an addition or correction to make please take the
   time to write it out in the format of the FAQ so that I don't have
   to try to figure out how to say what you're trying to say!


Index:

          (0) Warnings, disclaimers, etc.
          (1) Equipment (skis, boots, bindings, tuning, etc)
          (2) Clothing
 ----->   (3) Technique
          (4) Transportation (cars, chains, leather, whips...)
          (5) Lodging & other apres-ski
          (6) Misc

 ------------------------- Section 3: Technique -------------------------

 3.1) "Are there any good books on technique?"

     Whenever this question comes up 14 people will reply that you should
     go purchase a copy of Lito Tejada-Flores' book "Breakthrough on Skis".
     Available at your local bookstore or from the Third Hand (916-926-2600).

     A list of texts often mentioned on the net:
 
     We Learned to Ski         Handbook of Skiing     Breakthough on Skis
     Harold Evans              Karl Gamm              Lito Tadjada-Flores
     St. Martins Press         Knopf                  Vintage
     ISBN 0-312-85859-0        ISBN 0-679-72836-8     ISBN 0-394-7470
     $12.95                    $16.95                 $10.95

     Note that this is one of the more hotly debated topics on this 
     group. The conversation ususally goes: "Lito's book is great!"
     "Naw, Lito's full of it!". Whatever. Check out the books and decide
     for yourself. Just remember that no book is ever a substitute for
     a couple of hours with a good instructor!


 3.2) "So how should I get started anyway?"

     Lessons. Take lessons. In fact, even if you think you're a skiing
     god already you should probably take some lessons. Unless your 
     friend happens to be an instructor you probably should *not* let
     your friend "teach you to ski". Many areas offer extremely attractive
     "first time skier" packages. These packages will often include
     ski gear, a ticket, and instruction at a very low price (it's free
     at Squaw Valley for instance...).
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry
From: crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan)
Subject: Re: Closed Ski Areas in Colorado - Post 1
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:23:39 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Jul30.175218.25581@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace) writes:
>      Lifts: 1 double chair, 1 poma, 1 Mitey Mite

What's a Mitey Mite?

Crispin
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Why my skis are in crappy shape!
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:03:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.182408.41919@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>For Christ's sake!  THE SKIS WERE GIVEN TO ME IN BAD SHAPE!!!  That's
>why I want to refurbish them.  Will all you Ski Bum Nazis calm down?
>It's not like I could do anything to the skis for the past 11 years
>because I didn't see them until a month ago!
>
I hope you didn't PAY for a pair of 1981 K2's that have never been cared for
properly since their purchase. I probably wouldn't trust them as a post to
hold up my mailbox, nevermind actually stepping into the bindings! Besides
anyone who uses the word "refurbish" in casual ski  conversation probably has
a college degree in Journalism, works for the National Enquirer, drives a 
Saab convertable, and can afford to spring for a new set of boards.

						Just returning the shots,
								T.S.
From: klaus@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Klaus B. Biggers)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:34:01 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Jul29.190547.19585@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

edited for brevity...

>Flat is a very specific term and I don't think that there are
>different degrees of flatness, could something be half flat????

Yes... ever skied Vail?...  :)




-klaus                                              klaus@ced.utah.edu

                         Visualize Whirled Peas
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From: hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Fischer SLS vacuum skis
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:55:46 GMT
Organization: EDS Research

>>Does anyone out there own Fischer SLS vacuum skis?
>>Do you like them?
>>
>>Or has anyone tried these skis?
>>What did you think of them?
>>
>>Does the vacuum technic really make a difference?

Well, I haven't actually tried them, but reports are that they're OK at the
top of a run, but you have to keep emptying the bag, and if the snow is
kind of wet, it gets pretty darn heavy when it gets full!

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.bicycles,rec.backcountry
From: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul J. Schinder)
Subject: Re: yakima vs thule opinions wanted
Reply-To: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:24:35 GMT

In <25JUL92142432@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu> jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (cool flowin gotta keep goin...) writes:

>In article <1992Jul22.191921.19082@infonode.ingr.com>, dlb@dazixco.ingr.com (Dave Buehmann) writes...
>>I'd appreciate opinions of pros & cons on Yakima vs Thule racks
>>for skis & bikes.  
>>

We're about to "inherit" a canoe.  In addition to carrying skis and
bikes, can you get a canoe kit for either Yakima or Thule?  (I think
it's a 12 ft. canoe, but I'm not sure.)  This would be for the top of
either a Honda Civic or an Accord.

--
--------
Paul J. Schinder
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: mike@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike McNelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 16:04:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Discount lift tickets in Colorado
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> Is this true?  Can you buy dicount lift tickets from gas stations and
> grocery stores?  How much of a discount?  What gas stations?  What
> grocery stores?  Is it worth it?  Are there any restrictions on the 
> tickets?

Buy a Denver newspaper before you go skiing.  It's a great way to catch
up on current events.  Besides, every day they list current snow
conditions and a complete list of where discount tickets are available
for each resort.

Mike McNelly
mike@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Ski conditions report -- how's late September?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:10:47 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello all,

Well, from the response, I guess I'll post ski condition reports
as soon as I get the script done.  This may take a couple of weeks
(I'm moving and am very busy).  Would late September be a good time
to start posting?


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From: SCHROEDE@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Re: To Snowboard Near Charlotte
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:35:02 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <28394@goofy.Apple.COM> blukie@msgate.corp.apple.com writes:

> I'll be relocating to Charlotte and I'm wondering about winter sports in the
> south.   Where is the closest place for skiing and board'n???  

beech mtn or gatlinburg i'd say

doug
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: iseman@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen Early)
Subject: Re: Wanted: mailorder source for O'Brien water ski parts
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:31:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.182028.26300@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> marks@ssdevo.enet.dec.com (Randy Marks) writes:
>Looking for a mailorder source for O'Brien water ski parts.

Barts watersports catalog  800-348-5016.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jwnagle@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Jim Nagle)
Subject: test
Reply-To: jwnagle@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Jim Nagle)
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:22:18 GMT


Sorry, please no flames...
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: roakes@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rick Oakes)
Subject: Re: Is there a Taco Bell in Vail?
Followup-To: rec.skiing
Summary: Not the last I knew
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:42:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.144307.41761@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a Taco Bell in Vail?
>
The last time I was there, no.  KFC, Burger King, but I don't
remember a Taco Bell.

>If not, then where is the nearest one?
>
Coming from the East, there is one in Silverthorn, and one in Frisco
(successive exits from I-70, within a mile south of the highway
in each case.  These two exits are between Keystone and Copper
Mountain, on the way from Denver to Vail.  Coming from the West,
I believe the nearest one is in Glenwood Springs, about 60 miles
(see another thread).

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From: SCHROEDE@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ski Racks
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:49:24 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <16JUL199216250990@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:

> I own a 1984 Jeep C-J7 and want to get a Ski Rack.  My question to the net 
> is are what types and manufacturers sell racks that will fit on a Jeep C-J.
> (I have had problems finding a rack that will fit.)
>  
> Bruce Manners

a friend of mine had this problem and he ended up getting a Yakima rack
with the rain gutter towers.  Yakima (i'm sure others do this too, but
I like their racks the best) has metal brackets that you can screw into
a hardtop on the jeep and then attack the rack to these.  or you can
get a verticle mount for the spare tire if you don't mind carrying your
skiis that way....i do.

doug
From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:18:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Anyone been to Glenwood Springs, CO -- 15 miles west of Vail on I-70?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA