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From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Macintosh Pascal Upgrade?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 17:06:37 GMT
Organization: University of California
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Jul21.223725.622@massey.ac.nz> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News
System) writes:
>For some time we have been trying to find out SYMANTEC's official policy
>regarding Macintosh Pascal.  The NZ agents for SYMANTEC have been unable to
>obtain any definite information either.  We are currently running version
3.02,
>having obtained a patch, which adressed some bugs, but by no means all (see
>below).
>
>In case you didn't know, there are a couple of serious bugs in Macintosh
>Pascal:
>
>* Printing text > 1 page in length causes LaserWriters to hang
>* Bombs under System 7 on a number of models in different
>  situations (more information available)
>
>The Computer Science deparmtent here are currently using Mac Pascal for
>introductory courses.  One suggestion by SYMANTEC, via its NZ agents, is to
>upgrade to THINK Pascal, but the teaching staff feel this product is too
>complex for introductory courses.
>

In my opinion, Think Pascal, is far superior and is no more complex as long as
you avoid use of the Think Class Library for introductory use.

>What I would like to know is the following:
>
>1) Does anyone know if SYMANTEC has officially ceased development of Macintosh
>Pascal?

I certainly can't speak OFFICIALLY, but since they no longer offer it for sale
(as far as I know) and I would be hard-pressed to understand why they would
support two pascal products, it would be my guess that Macintosh Pascal is no
longer supported.

>
>2) Has anyone got a version later that 3.02 which does address the above bugs?

>(BTW, we would purchase the above, if available)
>
>3) What alternative simple, user-friendly Pascal compilers are available?

You might look at "Just Enough Pascal" from Symantec. I have not used this
myself, but have heard some good reports on it.

Hope this is helpful.

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From: cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Unattended modem transfer
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:32:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Jul30.083240.41999
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

> I need to set up a Mac to accept unattended file transfers via
> modem. I don't need (or want) the full functionality of a BBS; I
> just want to let people send files to me without having to stop
> what I am doing to set up the transfer.

If you don't mind distributing MCS to all your freinds, its a good
solution.  It is about 10-12 K, answers the phone everytime it rings
and has a chat feature.  Oh, it can send, recieve and chat at the same
time.

-- 
Rick 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for .zip for the mac
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 01:14:46 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
     <1682F716E.GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> <151c9uINNkqk@agate.berkeley.edu>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <YQ3MBX1L@cc.swarthmore.edu> R. Glenn Stauffer,
stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu writes:
>I've had Zip 1.0 for quite a few months.  Unfortunately, the program
>appends a "d" to the names of files being "zipped".   One of the program
>authors,  Johnny Lee (johnnyl@microsoft.com) apparently is working on an
>update.

Johnny Lee wrote to INFO-MAC (comp.sys.mac.digest to you USENET folks)
saying that the version I posted to sumex was an alpha version not meant
for release. I downloaded it from AOL; there was nothing to indicate it
was an alpha version, and in fact the opening screen clearly states that
the program is freeware and may be redistributed for noncommercial use. 
I do regret that I was involved in something that apparently was not
quite ready, and do apologize for that; but there was no way for me to
know there was a problem. (The version number is 1.0--not an alpha to be
seen.)

One unexplained feature of the program is that the resource fork and the
data fork of a Mac file can be put into different zip files.  When a "d"
is appended to the name of the files being zipped, that's the data fork. 
If an "r" is appended, that's the resource fork. 

Someone writing to me (thinking I'm the author, which I'm not) said the
program created archives which, when unzipped on an IBM and downloaded as
a Mac file, were unusable. The problem there is that the program has to
be on the IBM machine in MacBinary format for a successful download.
Convert the file to MacBinary before zipping; then it only has a data
fork. Most Mac comm programs will automatically reconstitute a MacBinary
file to a standard Mac file when doing a download...

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: robinson@EE.Stanford.EDU (Heyward G. Robinson)
Subject: Re: ThoughtPattern at $59 ?
Keywords: ThoughtPattern
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:09:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.171650.19596@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mzajac@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Stephen Zajac) writes:
>A while ago someone posted that they were aware of a retailer selling 
>a ThoughtPattern software bundle for $59.
>

There is a small catch with the bundle that you should be aware of.
If you buy the product through "normal" channels or from Bananafish
directly, you can upgrade to version 2.0 for free.  If you purchase
ThoughtPattern as part of the bundle, you will have to pay for the
upgrade.  

-Heyward Robinson
From: e5tx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Database + calender
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:13:05 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

I am looking for a program that can keep track of addresses and what I send to
or received from the address and the date.  The program should have at least
two windows, one like a calender and the other a database.  Say I send a letter
to address A on 7/27/92, I input either 1) in the database under address A that
I send a letter on 7/27/92 and the calender will show the mailing, or 2) in the
calender on date 7/27/92 that I send a letter to address A and the database wil
reflect this action.  Is there such a program, or do I have to build onw from a
relational database myself? 

If there isn't such a program and I have to write it myself, what is the best
database program (or program in general) that will do the task?

Any reponse will be much appreciated.

Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ronw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (ronald.g.wolenty)
Subject: PAGE X of Y in MS WORD
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:54:39 GMT

I would like to be able to format my page numbers as x of n (n being the
total number of pages in the document) using MS WORD (5.0).  Does anyone
know how to do this?  Is it possible on the MAC (it is on the Windows 
version)?

Ron Wolenty
inuxy!wolenty

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jeff Kain <jkain@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Quick Microsoft bash! ;-) (Word not closing files properly)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:38:25 GMT

In comp.sys.mac.apps you write:

>Every time I see someone who's afraid to leave WordPerfect I feel pity
>for another poor person lost to the evil Microsloth/Intel/IBM conspiracy.

Consipiracy?

There a many valid reasons to incorporate a file deletion feature into a
program. Typical computer users (not typical Macintosh users) can get
into real trouble when deleting files using the Finder. If a program
can provide a delete-files feature, which filters out all but one file
type (for example, a 'delete report' command which presents only
report files, not critical database index files), the chances for bad
things happening are greatly reduced. It's easy to redo a report...
it's much more difficult to restore an entire database from a backup,
if indeed a backup exists.

What do you think? Is this a valid reason to have a delete files
command? It's surprising how much more 'mainstream' the Mac is
getting, and as a result, how much more 'mainstream' its users are
becoming. While dragging a file to the trash is no big deal for an
experienced Mac user, I've found that the typical office worker who
must use a Mac, needs a little more guidance when the potential for
disaster is greater.

Jeff
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From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: C++ and other compilers
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:06:46 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <bonnie.712419052@earth.njit.edu>, bonnie@earth.njit.edu (Bonnie MacKellar) writes...
>I have a pretty basic question : I am interested in buying a Mac
>(possibly a powerbook 140 or 170), but I do a lot of programming
>and people have told me tha the Mac is not a good programmers
>machine due to a lack of good compilers.  Is this true or not?
>I do not use "boxed applications" very often.
>I normally use gnu C++  and Bim Prolog on a Sparcstation.
>I also often need Lisp.  What is available for the Mac that
>is comparable?  I understand that Think C is not really C++,
>so I am not interested in that.  Is there anyting available
>for free, like the gnu software?  Or am I better off
>buying a PC?
> 
>                                 Bonnie MacKellar
>                                 bonnie@vienna.njit.edu
> 
>

There are at least two C++ compilers for the Macintosh: MPW C++ and Zortech
C++.  The MPW one also requires the basic MPW package, and also MPW C.  The
Zortech compiler also requires MPW, but I'm not sure if it requires MPW C.

Think C does have some object-oriented extensions which are, I believe,
compatible with C++.  From what I have heard, the next release of Think C will
be C++.

I don't know about Prolog, but I know there are LISP environments for the
Macintosh.  I believe some variant of CLOS is available.

Personally, I think your choice between the PC and the Macintosh should be
based on what environment you want to use, and what environment you want your
software to run in.

                   /
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       /  /  /  /				davis@3d.enet.dec.com
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From: amunn@macbeth.umd.edu (Alan Munn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Style changes in Word 4
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:06:01 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <XHccoB5w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us> henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:
>amunn@linus.umd.edu (Alan Munn) writes:
>
>> I have a Word question which has been bothering me for a while.  I
>> have a bunch of styles defined based on Normal.  They don't involve
>> font changes, but involve various paragraph format changes.  Let's say
>> I have 5 styles, A, B, C, D and E.  If I go into Define All Styles and
>> change the font from Palatino to Times, only A, B and C change their
>> fonts; D and E don't, even though all 5 styles are defined as based on
>> Normal.  What's going on?
>
>Could it be that D and E already have a different font defined 
>than Normal (i.e., D is, say, Normal + Font: xyz)?

No, this is what is puzzling to me.  Each of the styles is just based
on normal, with no font changes within.


Alan
<amunn@umd5.umd.edu>







Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Erik Reuter <e-reuter@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Lotus Agenda for the Mac?
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana, Microelectronics Lab
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:08:51 GMT


I am looking for the closest equivalent to Lotus Agenda on the
Macintosh. This is for someone who used to use Agenda on his
Dell portable, but who now has a Powerbook.

The Mac program should have very nearly the same features and
capabilities as Agenda. Any suggestions?

--
Erik Reuter, e-reuter@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Juha Pirttil{ <juha@skynet.oulu.fi>
Subject: Re: Molecular Modeling
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Oulu
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:03:36 GMT



In article <6869.2A692686@psycho.fidonet.org> Wayne Johannason, 
Wayne.Johannason@f30.n377.z1.FIDONET.ORG writes:

>I need a Mac or IBM program that would allow me to 'sketch' small DNA/RNA
>strands and display small compunts.  Any Molecular Modeling program
would be
>much appriciated.  Espically with source code present.  Are there any
program
>that can display replication?  Any information/programs would be much
>appriciated.

MacMolecule. Is archived at sumex-aim.stanford.edu.

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From: thompson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Heidi Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Adobe Screen Fonts?
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:46:30 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

How could I find Adobe Screen Fonts for the equivalent printer fonts?  It there an ftp archive that has the whole library?  I want to print on some of the labs at school, but would like to pick from all the fonts they have available on my home machine.

Thanks!

Heidi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: binhex, stuffit and MacNFS
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 02:34:36 GMT

I retrieved some .hqx files from wuarchive.wustl.edu to my SUN via ftp, binary
mode.  I then mounted the disk via MacNFS on a IIci and tried to use binhex
4.0 on the file.  I get an error message about End of File Error.

If I copy the file to a local MAC drive using the NFS drag-and-drop
interface, I get a CRC error trying to Upload->Application the file.

Anyone seen similar things. I am at a loss.  Does MacNFS not do binary, 8 bit
transfers? Other applications seems fine.


Thanks.
--
   John C. Schultz   +1 (612) 733-4047   schultz@halley.serc.3m.com
   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
From: mortal@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71079000)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:33:18 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


While the issue of what constitutes copyright infringement is an important
one, I don't feel my original question has been addressed. Allow me to clarify:

Distributing Simpsons beeps and Quicktime movies of copyrighted materials
may or may not be copyright infringement. However, there are things on
info-mac and other "legitimate" archives that definitely, unquestionably,
and firmly under copyright, and being illegally distributed. The fact that
the loss of income is not enough to warrant pressing charges does not change
the fact that it is illegal, any more than with individual software piracy.

Some examples:

As I said before, the game "Risk" is copyrighted. Unless the author got
permission from the makers to create his game, distributing it is illegal.

The lyrics and album covers of the Doors are copyrighted. Assuming the
author of the Doors Hypercard stack didn't get permission, distributing that stack
infringes upon the copyright.

Photographs are copyrighted. Works of art are copyrighted. Copyrights
extend to "derivative works," which means, among other things, digitizations.
Distributing GIFs, Startup Screens, PICTs, TIFFs, and other derivations
of photographs and artworks is illegal.

I'm not questioning whether it's legal to make your own Doors Hypercard stack
from your own albums. I'm saying that distributing these things is without
question illegal, as surely as it would be to distribute SimAnt through
info-mac.

So, given that there are copyright infingements on many ftp sites,
I wonder why the people who are upset over the thought that there may
be people out there who are using software they haven't paid for aren't
equally upset over the fact that there are people out there who use other
copyrighted works they haven't paid for.

Footnote: I do not intend to condemn the creators of the above bits of
shareware, nor the curators of the various ftp sites worldwide. I am
simply trying to ascertain the level of consistency of logic that exists
in the discussion of illegal software copying.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: lie6@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jonathan A. Lieberman)
Subject: Anybody know anything about SOFT PC WINDOWS?
Reply-To: lie6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:21:36 GMT


-- 
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Copyright (c) 1992          | People demand freedom of speech to make up 
Jonathan Lieberman          | for the freedom of thought which they avoid.
lie6@midway.uchicago.edu    |                        -Kierkegaard
From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: sync'ing files btwn PB and Mac
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:47:47 GMT
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia

Frontier from Userland (and MacWarehouse et al) includes scripts to do this
kind of thing and is certainly a higher-level/easier language in which to
write such a comparison/update facility.

Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
       Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gold@ilp.mit.edu
Subject: Books for learning/using MacDraw Pro?
Organization: MIT Industrial Liaison Program
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:18:56 GMT

Hi!
	Does anyone know any good books for learning/using MacDraw 
Pro?  Thank you in advance for you assistance.
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Mark D. Gold             Massachusetts Institute of Technology
gold@ilp.mit.edu         Industrial Liaison Program
(617) 253-0430           Cambridge, Massachusetts  02139
From: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu (Jamie Thingelstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: A/UX 3.0 vs. MachTen 2.0
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:22:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

Has anyone actually used MachTen 2.0 with the X implementation. I am interested
about hearing of SPEED, DISK SPACE, and USABILITY... 

-- 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy...
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 18:40:52 EDT

In article <22024@venera.isi.edu> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>
>Technically, you can do what you want with the stuff you tape off of
>your TV, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T DISTRIBUTE IT.

I'm not at all convinced that this is true (from a legal standpoint).
(See my previous post.)  If you can provide statute or precedent supporting
this statement, I'd be interested in seeing it.

You certainly can do *some* things, legally, such as "time shifting" of
programs.  It does not follow from this, however, that you can do *anything*
that is not commercial in nature.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
From: matti@my.sm.luth.se (Matti Larborn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 4.0 + Truetype = printing errors; help!
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:26:55 GMT
Organization: Lule} University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <1992Jul28.121901.10601@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> Kim Guan Ng,
gukgn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au writes:
>I have Word 4.0. Ever since I started using Truetype under system 7,
>characters have started to print on top of one another.

I know a Word 4.0 and system 7.0 user who also has this problem. If you
have a text that is bold AND underlined the underlining ends before the
text ends.

What's wrong with it?

--Matti Larborn, Sweden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Excel macro help.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:13:37 GMT

I'm making a simple gradebook in Excel 3.0 that will takes the scores of four 
tests and gives a total score, a minimum score, an average score (out of all 
their tests), a final average score (that drops the minimum score) and a grade 
based on 4=A, 3=B, 2=C, 1=D, 0=F.  I've figured out everything but how to get a 
final average score that will drop the minimum score and how to give the final 
numeric grade.  I suppose for that I'll need a way for Excel to figure out that 
a final average of 90.3% is a 4.  Here's what it looks like right now;

Name Test1 Test2 Test3 Test4 Total MinScore  AverageScore  FinalAverage Grade
Smith  94    61    89    88   332    61        83.0            ???        ???

Any help would be appreciated.
-Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kinsey@athena.cs.uga.edu (Kevin Kinsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: convergence test
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:56:38 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Does anyone know where I could FTP a convergence test appl/util for
the Mac. At this point, anything close will do.

thanks,

kevin
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University of Georgia
Athens, GA
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From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Master Juggler, Power Utilities?
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:15:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


 Hi,

 How does Alsoft's Master Juggler compare with Suitcase 2.1? I'm mainly
 interested in whether it resolves font ID/name conflicts on the fly. 

 Also, what's included in the Alsoft Power Utilities? I guess it has
 Disk Express II and Master Juggler, but what else?

 Thanks muchly,

Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
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