HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
Subject: Re: Wordz 2 Tha Wyze
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 19:24:17 GMT

In article <ISBELL.92Apr7142757@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>By the way, how long has alt.rap been around?  I was here from post #1,
>but I forget our age.  Anyway, we've done a good job by and large.  I
>think we deserve self-patting super props for keeping a mostly dope+
>group.  Dap, dap, dap.  <insert prop here>

Checking my limited article collection, the 95th article on our site 
(which, not coincidentally, was written by yours truly) was posted on 
March 23rd, 1991.  The group is probably no more than a week older than that 
(and most of that initial week was spent weeding out the `Rap isn't music' 
twits).

So, anyway, a belated happy anniversary to us!  Over one year of mostly
dope+.

Hey, it rhymes.

				Greg Barnes
				greg@cs.washington.edu
From: tsai82@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Digital Underground Tour
Summary: Digital Undergroung
Keywords: Digital Underground
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:53:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <2322@news.duke.edu>, radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
> The Digital Underground will be appearing at the Cat's Cradle in Chapel
> Hill, NC Apr 23rd.  DU are my favorite group; their humor and funk just
> do me in.  The Cradle is a small place; you can fit maybe 300 people in
> there, the sound system is good, and it's pretty easy to get up front if
> you want.  Opening for them will be Raw Fusion (I love Money B, and this
> is a good album) and Gold Money (a DU spinoff that I've never heard).
>   Questions:
> 1) Has anyone here ever seen DU live before? Do they kick?  How long are
> their shows?  How many members show up?  How different are their songs?
> Do they encourage a lot  of audience participation? 
> 2) What about Gold Money?  Who's in this group?
> I'll give a full review when the time comes.
> 
Digital Underground will be appearing at the Chesnut Cabaret in Philadelphia
on Tuesday 14.  I'm definitely seeing them again.  To answer your questions:
1. Last time I saw them was at the Spectrum in Philadelphia last summer with
   the Budweiser Superfest tour.  They were excellent.  Not only do they rap
   their hearts out, but are also visually entertaining on stage.  I don't
   want to give anything away, but they were hilarious.  Show length I think
   will be standard for a concert (2 hrs).  I can't give a better approximation
   because they were one of 6 acts last summer.  As far as I know, all of the
   posse performed last summer and they introduced some new guys, Razzle and
   Dazzle, their newest dancers.  They'll probably perform songs from all 
   albums including: The Humpty Dance, Doowutchalike, Same Song, No Nose Job,
   and a bunch of others.  At the Spectrum, everyone was on their feet singing
   along with them.  They were the best act in the show that night.  And won't
   dissapoint any fans(or non-fans) who see them now.
2. I'm not too sure who Gold Money is, but if they're anything like Raw Fusion,
   we can't go wrong.  

That's all for now.  I'll try to post a review if I get a chance. 
Everybody, go see the show!  Peace.

-Theo
From: cshelly@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Talkin' Blak
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:33:42 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Listen you wherever the fuck you come from, why don't you come down and get some
From: sample@ncsc.org (Mike Sample)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO ERIC Z.
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:03:32 GMT
Reply-To: sample@ncsc.org (Mike Sample)
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center

In article <12APR92.19252852@vax.clarku.edu>, cshelly@vax.clarku.edu writes:
 >oking hippy fags who sit in the meadow and strum on their guitars
singing peace songs. Hardly anyone here listens to rap music, It really
sucks! Oh well I just sit in my room and blast some of the good shit.

Wha?

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From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Help Needed Iden...//ANOTHER ONE, PHYZ!!!
Summary: Lost
Keywords: at Birth
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:44:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.061206.21558@mixcom.com>, ray.chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (ray.chramega) writes...
> 
>"In Living Color" recently played a rap song I'd like to find... My only
>problem is I can only remember a single line of the lyrics. Not much to go
>on but here it goes.
> 
>"To the East my brother, to the East my brother, to the East!"
> 
>That's about it! I hope someone recognizes it. Thanks for your help.
> 
> 

	My, GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt:  maybe you dont listen
to hip-hop...or follow hip-hip, I should say.  Maybe.

								aMIL
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: travgod@next02cville.wam.umd.edu (Ghetto Bastard)
Subject: Re: SLICK RICK
Keywords: PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:26:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.210121.1@wharton.upenn.edu>  
wrightb@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
> Yo, anybody know what's up with SLICK RICK?
> 
> 

Well, I think visiting hours are Monday through Friday at about 3 pm, but  
otherwise, I couldn't tell ya...

I thought everyone knew he was in jail for trying to shot his...{was it  
his brother-in-law or cousin? I really don't remeber}. He should be in for  
another 4 to 7 years.  Russell Simmons was able to get Rick out for a  
couple of months to work on the album that's out now, as well as the  
videos that have been released.  I also heard he made enough material and  
videos for another album to be released later will he's still in prison.
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Arrested Developement
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:45:18 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu's message of 13 Apr 92 14:35:42 GMT

balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Stone Cold Gentleman) writes:
|	 I liked to give props to the first person on this net to 
|	 bring Arrested Confusion to my attention.

|	 Tennese is dope and I can't wait for the rest of the album to 
|	 come out.

Well, I broke down and bought the album last Friday.  I'm really
clueless about all these megaprops for "Tennessee" (my home state!),
but I can certainly recommend the album.  Maybe I should review it
(maybe I should just get a grip and review something--in fact, fuck it,
I'm going to finish Son of Bazerk now.  Check ya later).
--
Peace.
"Well, I would -- if they realized that we -- again if -- if we led them
 back to that stalemate only because our retaliatory power, our seconds,
 or strike at them after our first strike, would be so destructive they
 they couldn't afford it, that would hold them off."
                -- President Ronald Reagan, on the MX missile
                                      -\--/-
       Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |            Yes, it is I
             develop them.           |  /\  |       The Homeboy from hell
                                      -/--\-
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Spin Out
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:53:56 GMT
	<12038.29e46a5b@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
	<92101.114928U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: U14864@uicvm.uic.edu's message of 10 Apr 92 16:49:28 GMT

U14864@uicvm.uic.edu (Tyrone Ellison) writes:
|To Phyz:
|  When Kris mentions that Cube dissed him, he was referring to a line from
|"Rollin' With the Lench Mob" (From AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted) when Cube said
|"...Some rappers are heaven-sent/but 'Self-Destruction' don't pay the fuckin'
|rent..."  For some reason, Kris took that line personally... I wonder why,
|since Chuck appeared on Self-Destruction AND co-produced the album... Chuck
|didn't have much of a problem with that phrase... Maybe Kris has been
|"...holding his own throttle" a little too tightly...

I think BDP is often all that, but every time I hear something about
KRS I keep thinking that it's a good thing that egos don't induce
gravity, or else the sun would have been pulled into New York several
years ago.

|Which brings me to a question... What's Kris' problem with Poor Righteous
|Teachers?...

Oh, who knows?

|P.S.:  According to (unconfirmed) reports from the Source (via Chicago's
|Rap Show on WHPK [88.5]), BDP and X-Clan have settled their differences and
|they will be working on a cut TOGETHER that's supposed to be out by December...
|Has anyone else heard about this?

I'd be surprised if XClan released their own album by December, at
this rate.
--
Peace.
     "CONSERVATIVE:  One who wishes to ignore existing evils, as opposed to a 
      liberal, who desires to replace them with new ones."  - Samuel Johnson
                           ------
Don't just adopt opinions |  \/  | I am Charles Isbell, Homeboy from hell,
      develop them.       |  /\  | living axiom and anonymous absolute ruler
                           ------  of the cosmos.  

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agathon@athena.mit.edu (Garry Moorer)
Subject: Re: Does the world really need Baby Geto Boys?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 06:17:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.214308.3228@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, david j warner <dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:

|> Seems there's a lot of this stuff coming out of the Rap-A-Lot label these days.
|> This label is basically "Geto Boys" records, and they have a hand in most of
|> the production and throw their own vocals on the a lot of the rhymes.  Aside
|> from the GB's own records and their solo ventures, rap acts such as Nothing But
|> Trouble (aka the Baby Geto Boys), the Terrorists, Choice, and the Convicts are
|> on the label, and I'm sure I'm missing about two or three other acts as well.
|> The Convicts have one good song, a B-Side called "Wash Your Ass" which is kinda
|> stupid-funny, but beyond that, I'd avoid anything on Rap-A-Lot except Mr.
|> Scarface's LP and maybe the GBs latest vinyl
|> 
|> I avoid those, too, but that's just me.


Yo, gotta disagree with you on the Convicts.  Their album is one of my current
favorites.  Their album is smooth, and has a little bit of funk to it.  Don't 
care much for the lyrics and message, but it sounds dope.  IMO "Wash Your
Ass" is funny, but not one of the better songs.  Everything on side 1 is 
pretty hype.  "Free World", "Peterman", "For the Convicts", "Fuck School",
"Penitentiary Blues", and especially "1900 Dial-a-Crook".

Have you heard the whole album?  If not, give it a close listen...  
It's definitely doper than Scarface's.  Peace!

(Props to Baby Sha!)

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From: gje@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory James Elliott)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Talkin' blak?
Keywords: talkin
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:49:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr9.184902.4972
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Apr7.233345.5930@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby) writes:
> friends.  Therefore they chose to emulate those parts of black culture that they enjoyed.  It's incredibly comical to see 5 or 6 kids in baseball caps and started jackets with saggy jeans getting out of a jaguar.  Black music and culture has always 
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>typical lingo, and therefore (according to Martha) being a steretype.  There's nothing wrong with using the lingo as long as you dont come off as an idiot and you dont know what you're talking about, which is not the case here.  I think many of the p
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>ere are the most intelligent on the whole net (check ISbell's most recent one). 
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>tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu


No offense to you as a person, but I found this article hard to read.
     1.  Try using the [RETURN] key at the end of EACH line.
     2.  It's my imagination, or there are lines missing from this post.
	 (Could you repost it?  THANKS!)


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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 12:03:07 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Spin Out

To Patrice:
I don't know if I can agree with you when you say that SPIN is making the hip-
hop culture weak... Don't get me wrong, it's no where NEAR perfect, but they
have their good points... After all, as far as I know, they were the first ones
to discuss the PE/Griff episode and even the Source acknowledged SPIN for being
the first ones to publish a definitive Hip Hop Map... In my opinion, the only
magazines that make the culture weak are those fluff 'n' dry magazines like
Right On, Word Up and Rap Masters (a writer named Chuck Chyll really makes me
sick with his cheesy butt-kissin' commentary), not to mention "our" magazines
like Ebony and Jet... But as far as SPIN goes, it could do a lot better... get-
ting rid of Bonz Malone wouldn't be too bad...
Peace Out...
             ...The Minister Of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...
From: dvlg12@tdb.uu.se (grafik 12)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: WHITE MEN CAN'T RAP
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:33:21 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ., Sweden

>Aahhh,look,everyone,Fedde can't take the heat so to avoid anymore conflict with
>me he's going to put me in the kill file....I guess it's true...if you can't 
>play with the big dogs..keep your ugly ass on the porch..oh,well,Fedde's not
>man enough to answer me or have a decent name so I'll leave him alone..for now
>anyway..and I think that bit about the Nnmaster was a nice touch...this time
>it only took you three days to respond...good boy,now stay...stay.....good
>boy...

Stop for a minute now and think! How low can you go?
This guy has made ashes out of you and stil you keep making
a fool out of yourself. Where do you find time to even count
the days he takes to answer? And you are asking him to get a
life? Look at what you wrote and think! You are not saying
anything in what you write. I think the guy totally explained
why he hadn't answered. I also understand why you are in his
and others files. I highly suggest you stop making a fool out
of yourself and also leave this .net to what it was made in the
first place. Can't you hear the people here laughing at you??
You have been loosing from your very first article...

>                                          -Cleopatra
And you insult people for their names? Drop this...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: tatumh@infonode.ingr.com (Harry W Tatum)
Subject: Soundtrak
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:50:36 GMT




  Yo! whats up!
      
      It me again.  You know the one waaaaaaiieee behind!!!
  
  I saw this movie on showtime with alot of Schooly D's traks in it
  but haven't seen the LP nor do I know the name of the movie.
 
  So how 'bout som gravy on this one!!!  





   Bruddah Hal                            *****************************
                                          **                         **
                                          **  What a smilin' face    **
                                          **  when the whole state's **
                                          **  racist!!!!  PE         **
          				  **			     **
					  *****************************
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ajpal@wam.umd.edu (Jay)
Subject: Doug E Fresh song!
Keywords: Help me find it.
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:35:19 GMT

     I am trying to figure out the title of a song and the album it came from.
The song is a super old Doug E Fresh and MC Ricky D (Slick Rick) rap.  It was
in the movie New Jack City (when everyone is in the club) and I have heard it
on the radio at like 3:00 am.  The only thing I can say that may be of some
help is that I remember I lyric from it that was sampled by LL Cool J on
his song Six minutes of pleasure:

"six minutes, six minutes, six minutes Doug E Fresh your on."

I really want to get this album for my collection.  Preferrably on CD but I
may have to settle for cassette since it was probably recorded in the early
80's.

    Also, does anyone know of any record stores in the Baltimore/DC area that
sells old rap/hip hop?  Other than 12 inches because I am planning to go
there sometime next week.

5000

ajpal@wam.umd.edu
From: peterson@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Brian Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Philly is in the House
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:07:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Whatup!  I've recently discovered this newsgroup, and I've been catching
up on all of the past articles I missed.  It took me a while, but I'm
all caught up now, and PHILLY IS IN THE HOUSE!

I'm going to put yall down with some new stuff I got.

The new Pete Rock 12inch is ALL THAT.  The song is called They  
Reminice Over You (TROY) and dedicated to Trouble T Roy.  This song is
without a doubt going to drop bombs.  It has the usual Pete Rock jazzy
flavor, but its hype and mellow at the same time, and the lyrics by
CL definitely flow.  If you don't have it, GET IT!

Next is Showbiz and A.G. EP.  This is kinda fat too, with about 6 songs.
The best are the "Soul Clap" and "Party Groove."  Party Groove is a bumpin
instrumental with a sax and Chuck D sample.  I also recommend this for all
the Hip Hop Junkies out there.

Does anyone know anything about the Intelligent Hoodlum (Tragedy).  I
heard he was coming out a while ago, but I haven't heard about any
tracks, except for the ones on Marly Marls last one.  


PEACE
DJ B STRONG
From: ez08+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Thomas Zeszotarski)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Top Ten
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:37:29 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I'm interested to hear what everyone's top ten rap records are.

I tried to compile my own list, and I found it extremely difficult to
do. But I sweated it out and here it is.  Some of these are on here
simply because I see them as major innovations in hip hop and/or the
ones I've always turned  to when I wanted to straight out jam. 
Well, here goes....

10.  Big Daddy Kane       It's a Big Daddy Thing
  9.  De la Soul      3 Feet High and Rising
  8.  Public Enemy      Fear of a Black Planet
  7.  Black Sheep       A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing 
  6.  NWA      Straight Outta Compton
  5.  Beastie Boys      Paul's Boutique
  4.  Public Enemy      It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
  3.  A Tribe Called Quest      The Low End Theory
  2.  Brand Nubian      One For All
  1.  Nice and Smooth      Nice and Smooth


**  Strong finishes also went to -
       Ice Cube      Both of them are soooooooo great
       Eric B. and Rakim       Need I say more??
       Gang Starr       Step In the Arena   
       Kool G. Rap and Polo      Wanted: Dead or Alive

     Peace,  
     Eric Z
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Random Musings
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr12.221835.4962@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner) writes...
>I've been trying to catch up on things this weekend, since there's a lot of
>stuff I haven't heard yet, so here goes...
> 
>1.) Finally heard the Scenario Remix.  It's nothing like the original, but
>    neither was the "Saturdays" remix from De La.  They're both slammin'.

The way I see it, the two "Scenerio" mixes are two completely different
jams.  They both stand alone.

> 
>7.) Could Nice & Smooth be more blatant in their sampling with "Sometimes I
>    Rhyme Quick"?  Is it really that easy to make a jam?
> 

No doubt Nice & Smooth "blatantly" sampled Tracy Chapman.  But what's your
point, G?  If you look in the album cover it says: "MUSIC: T. CHAPMAN". They
gave her 100% credit.  But what IS your point, G?


								aMIL
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: madpit@athena.mit.edu (Douglas R. Pitters)
Subject: Re: That absorbed culture (was Re: Martha & slang)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:08:06 GMT


It's funny that people think that we as Black people should stop being
creative because it will only be exploited by Whites.  This may be
true, but I don't think it will always be true.  As Blacks gain more
and more power (hopefully), we will see our own talent and exploit
ourselves.



			doug nice
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Compton's Most Wanted
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <12APR92.19430667@vax.clarku.edu>, cshelly@vax.clarku.edu writes...
>All west coast rappers ain't shit!


	WhyZ everyone tryin to FLAME somebody all of sudden?  What happened
to this .net?  Can't we be civilized and TALK about things?

							--aMIL
From: st910977@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Dave Twombly)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: WHO is Martha
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:04:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.000431.17069
Reply-To: st910977@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

I was just reading through alt.rap and I notices that my boy Zubair Khan was
getting dissed by some waste of life.  First of all, don't nobody talk about
Zubair Khan, if someone talks about Zubair Khan I just lose it.  Who is this
person anyway.  Martha where the fuck did she come from and who is she to 
dis someone.  She is the one feinon' to be down.  she probably didn't under
stand the slang and therefore got upset so she "tried" to dis my boy.  But 
Boyz from the Wood don't go out like that.  Z didn't start anything and here
comes some girl out form nowhere trying to dis.  That shit is not correct.
I suggest that she goes and watches Rap City (she had to mention that so she
could appear to be down) instead of using this net.  I also suggest that she
stop dissing innocent harmless people before she learns what dissin' is!
this is the era for peace there is already to much hate and nonsense in this
world we don't need anymore ignorant losers in this world.  Why doesn't she
play like Soul II Soul and "Keep on Movin'".

-Dave

P.S. Dave Miller for president, I'd buy that!!

Here's the situation idiodicy nonsense violence not a good policy....!!