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From: hartnegg@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Klaus Hartnegg)
Subject: Re: NFS: problem: cannot execute from mounted partitions
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 18:33:09 GMT

pete@introl.com (Pete Ikusz) writes:

>Kernel .98pl5-49:
>I have just attempted to move executables to a nfs filesystem, but
>I now find that I am not able to execute the progs from there.

If I remember correct, this was not possible with kernel 0.98
and was fixed in 0.99

>So, I built .99p2. I 'make disk' and when I attempt to boot off of that disk and
>it is not able to mount root, which is on /dev/hda2. I have that specified
>in the Makefile.

Hmmm. Strange.
What exactly was the error message (if any)?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4))
Subject: Re: 386 BSD
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:28:16 GMT

Elie Labeca (Elie.Labeca@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org) wrote:
: Hello,
: 
:  I'm looking for the 386 BSD, I believe it is free. How can I get it?
: I would also like to know how much place does it takes on a hard disk,
: how many diskettes, where to get it. And more specifications about it.
agate.berkeley.edu

It is a fully networking OS.
It has almost everything that Linux has except dos emulator and improved
387 emulator.

20Mbyte for (networking)binaries only
40Mbyte with X
50Mbyte with Xview
:
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Screen Capture
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:37:42 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


 xv can grab screen regions and save in gif (and other) formats
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can't login using libc.so.4.2
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:35:39 GMT
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <FUTZI.93Jan6123732@sven.uni-paderborn.de> futzi@uni-paderborn.de (Michael Kutzner) writes:
>>>>>> Ueber Can't login using libc.so.4.2 sagte Morten Bonde:
>
>Morten> Hi there
>
>Morten> I tried to install libc.so.4.2 today.
>
>Morten> After typing "ln -fs /lib/libc.so.4.2 /lib/libc.so.4" , I switched
>Morten> to another virtual terminal and tried to log in. No Way !!
>
>Morten> All I get is:
>
>Morten> Undefinde C library functions.
>Morten> 1. ulimit (Use getrlimit/setrlimit instead).
>Morten> 2. light C shared image (Use the real one instead).
>

IT IS NOT THE LATEST `libc.so.4.2'. That is a special release
to fix the fatal bugs.

There is a partial `ulimite ()' in libc.so.4.2. If you see

1. ulimit (Use getrlimit/setrlimit instead).

You should get the new libc 4.2. Read release notes please.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: SCSI on ST-01 versus older scsi tape controller (Adsi T-100)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:02:32 GMT

My linux setup with ST-01 works fine with a Quantum scsi hard disk, and
an SUN (Archive) scsi tape drive. I was trying out however, a ADSI T-100
tape controller with a ARchive Qic-36 drive. Most of the mt functions
such as rewind and erase seemed to work, at least the first time.
None of the read/write functions seemed. They produced an
"unexpected interrupt" message from "seagate.c", which seemed, according to
the code to come from the tape board flicking SEL at an unexpected time.
The higher level error message was simply " I/O error".

  I have the manual for the tape controller. The command set seems to
agree with those in scsi.h. The tape controller claims to support disconnect
re-connect like newer product. The tape controller is found on bootup.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erics@cadkey.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: Accessing IRQ/IO instructions under Linux.
Organization: cadkey
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:15:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.203354.22647@gkminix.han.de> gero@gkminix.han.de (Gero Kuhlmann) writes:
>Rune Fr|ysa (runefr@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
>> Since Linux is (fortunately) running under protected mode, I have
>> some difficulties determining how to use my MPU-401 MIDI interface.
>> Under DOS, i would redirect IRQ 3 (or 9, or .. have forgot the 
>> number) to an interrupt routine of my own.
>> Well, I can get my program work without this IRQ help, but I also
>> need access to port 330h and 331h. In DOS, a simple IO instuction
>> would be sufficient, but in Linux, I guess that I have to tell the
>> kernel to do this. 
>
>There is a device called /dev/port. After opening the device you have to
>position the file pointer at the byte offset corresponding to your port
>address. Then you can read or write successive bytes. I never tried it
>by myself. If you should have any problems with this have a look at
>/usr/src/linux/kernel/chr_drv/mem.c

Another way to do this is to setuid to root, then execute ioperm().
ioperm takes the base port number, the number of ports, and a flag
telling the kernel to turn on access to the ports.

Eric.

-- 
Eric V. Smith         | Technology ... the knack of arranging the
Cadkey, Inc.          |   world so that we need not experience it.
Windsor, CT           |
                      |     - Max Frisch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Ulf.Bartelt@p2.f3420.n241.z2.fidonet.org (Ulf Bartelt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Installing Packages from HD - how ?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 07:37:36 -0800

Hi Bernhard!

Wednesday January 06 1993 01:33, Bernhard Kroenung an All:

 BK> is it possible to install packages from HD (mounted DOS-Partition)
instead
 BK> of installing every single disk. Just put all the files in a
directory and
 BK> the "sysinstall -instsrc /mounted/dos/partition" should work - but
how ?

Just try a "sysinstall -install
full.path.and.name.of.package.to.install".
There's no difference in installing from a DOSish partition and
installing from other LINUXoid partitions iff they both are mounted.

Bye,
     Ulf

 * Origin: Have a nice patch ! (2:241/3420.2)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kfisher3@mach1.wlu.ca (kevin fisher U)
Subject: Smalltalk ??
Summary: Anyone??
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:16:44 GMT

Can anyone tell me if there is a port of Smalltalk available for Linux, or
where I can get one to attempt a port?
(Yes, I know smalltalk sometimes replaces the OS...)

Thanx
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From: bush@ecs.ox.ac.uk (Mark Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BUG of feature: cannot move `foo' accross file systems
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:11:45 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory
Originator: bush@thom5.ecs.ox.ac.uk

In article <DJM.93Jan5151115@frob.eng.umd.edu> djm@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie) writes:
#Yeah, it's just a deficiency in GNU mv.  POSIX.2 says that mv should
#basically do "cp -R" and remove the source files.  POSIX requires mv
#to move whole directory trees across filesystems, not just symlinks!
#To do that, I want to make the guts of GNU cp into a module that both
#cp and mv can call.  But that's a nontrivial amount of work that's
#never gotten important enough for me to do.

Sounds like you want to replace `mv' with a shell script which does a `tar'
to `tar' copy, then, with appropriate checking to see if the remote target
is a file or directory.  Or use `cpio'.  Or maybe a `find', which does The
Right Thing for each type of file it comes across.  Or...

Seems a waste to incorperate all this functionality into `mv'.

Mark
From: rob@phavl.UUCP (Robert Ransbottom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Sym-links?  Was: Re: [Q's] After SLS installation...
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:38:16 GMT
Organization: erehton

>move umount from /bin to /etc -or- create a sym link.

Why is there such a preference for sym-links?  A hard link
would be more compact & faster.

What benefit am I (w/ my SVr3 background) missing in re: symlinks?

-- 
rob   Robert Ransbottom
"It is extremely important to maintain correct attributions." -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gobbi@sg1502.chemie.uni-marburg.de (Alberto Gobbi)
Subject: Proplems with ftp in net-bin.0.2
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:20:45 GMT

Hi 
One More problem whith ftp:
 when i reboot my pc and login and try ftp to our workstation it
  will not work: no ls no get...
  if then i log in as a second user and try there it works without problems
  after this also the first user can do ftp without problems ????


any idea???
           Alberto

(kernel 0.99pl2 ne2000 alpha release)
From: kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Old Libc, can it be tossed?
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:02:07 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science

>>Can the older libc.so.4.0 & libc.so.4.1 be deleted if you have libc.so.4.2?
>>Also, do I have to link libc.so.4.2 to libc.so.4.1 & 4.0 if I do?
>
>The copy of tcsh I have, which seems to be the most recent, explicitly
>asks for libc.so.4.1.  If you make it a copy of libc.so.4.2, tcsh
>complains that it's incompatible.  Other than tcsh, I think most
>programs use the symlink libc.so.4, and so wouldn't care if 4.1 is
>gone.

I've had a little pause with linux and just beginning to hack with it
again. I notice there are now shared libraries, and even in two flavors,
I gather. Haven't seen any good explanations of how they work, though. I
hope this hasn't been beaten to death here already or buried into the
FAQ somewhere.

What's the bussiness with jump tables? I think jump tables refer to
indirect addressing so that you can have fixed entry points to libraries
while still be able to change the implementation. Why is there the other
alternative, and is it still supported?

What is the shared library resolution mechanism? I would think that at
run time the the library with matching major number and highest minor
number would be selected. Seeing people link and copy the libraries to
different names and having had problems with programs that required 4.1,
not 4.2, it seems this isn't the case. Why? What's the use of jump
tables, if you cannot use old programs with newer libraries? How do I
know, if a new library is compatible with an older one (modulo bugs)? Is
there some internal version number in the library, or is it all in the
name?

I would have looked up answers to some of these questions from the
sources hadn't I accidentally formatted part of my hard disk the other
night and being now busy recovering what's still left there...

-- 
me olemme maailma               tiet{v{tk| ne ett{ on jouluaika ollenkaan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: st01 spin-up code, add drive after boot
Keywords: st01 scsi
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:44:41 GMT

In article <C0JnHJ.1Hvz@austin.ibm.com> mwpoag@thurston.austin.ibm.com (Michael Wayne Poag) writes:
> 1) send the spin-up code to a drive on an st01
> 2) activate a drive added after boot-up
>
>I am running v.98p1 of HJ Lu's distribution 
>The st01 is recognized, and the drive too, but this drive has
>no jumper for spin-up on power-up...
>
>Is there any new scsi code in the newer kernels that would help.

	I am not aware of any special scsi command to spin up a drive, so I
guess the answer is that the newer kernel is unlikely to help you much.  I
grepped the scsi specifications for variations on "Spin up", and came up empty.
All I can suggest is that you contact the manufacturer and find out what is
needed - it is possible that there is some kind of drive specific command that
must be sent before the drive spins up.

	Since you have not indicated anything that would suggest otherwise, it
is also possible that your drive is dead.  Older Seagates in particular have
problems spinning up because (as I recall) the heads get stuck to the platters.
There is some kind of lubricant that is used internally, but as the drive gets
old the lubricant gets sticky.  If this is the case, then drive replacement is
strongly recommended. When I ran across this, I was able to get the drive to
spin up by lightly hitting the drive with a screwdriver handle, but this should
probably only be done when you are in a position to run a backup of some kind.
You should also make sure that there is not a spin-up command that needs to be
sent before you try any of this :-).

-Eric

-- 
Eric Youngdale
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tgao@cs.uiuc.edu (Tong Gao)
Subject: Help needed in installing Lilo for SLS.
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:20:04 GMT

I was trying to install lilo(with SLS0.98.6). However, I could not get it to
work. I first tried to use the install file in /etc/lilo in the SLS package,
but there is no such files as /etc/Image and /etc/Image.old. So I tried 
to use /Image as the kernel_image. However, when I boot from hard disk after
installing lilo, it complains something like can not read super-block and then
panic. Could someone tell me what I did wrong? I suspect I am using a wrong
kernel_image, but I do not know what is the right one to use in SLS. Any help
is deeply appreciated.

Tong
tgao@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Subject: Re: real-time
Reply-To: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:49:27 GMT

Nigel Gamble wrote a really nice explanation of some of the kernel
design considerations which affect its responsiveness.  At the risk of
starting holy wars, I'd like to suggest that all of the kernel
wizzardry in the world does not relieve us, as good applications
builders, of choosing and achieving appropriate process behaviors.

I have seen (helped design and build) decently running nuclear power
plant operator training simulators built on top of moderately
customized UNIX, e. g. SGI Irix and SunOS.  It can be done because the
application is "near-real-time", i. e. it has a period which is long
compared to most kernel operations and nothing terrible happens if the
simulation runs over-time for a few seconds.  (The perf-meter pegs
until caught up.)  Because we understand the behavior of our
application and the behavior of the kernel, we are able to do so
successfully.  The hardest thing we face is dealing with momentary
switches which can shut and open between I/O passes.  We deal with this
by buying intelligent I/O controllers built on something like Wind
River's VX-Works which is designed for moderately stiff real-time.  We
also have to be a little clever about the interface between the model
and the i/o.

Encore Computer once proted an F-4 flight simulator to its UNIX and Ada
preserving the look and feel of the original simulator.  This was done
some years ago (1986) as a demonstration for the Navy.  My information
on this activity is second hand.  They did have to add device drivers
to the kernel to run the cockpit I/O pretty much inside the kernel to
keep the stick feel.  The simulator was fixed base so they didn't have
to worry about moving the motion base smoothly.

This is a fascinating topic area which, from time to time, attracts academic
research and produces an occasional paper.  I have seen some papers about scheduling policy experiments that try to guarantee or bound response time.  There seems to be too little consensus for commercial operating system vendors to encorporate any of the experimental policies which I have seen in IEEE Computer Society articles.  Perhaps, someone out there can tell us more about what is going on in real-time research.

Dave Hamby   Dave.Hamby@Usppc.Abb.Com
ABB Power Plant Controls
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: udo@gravity (Udo Christ)
Subject: Re: ingres03 and 0.99pl2 ?
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:38:54 GMT

Thilo Jahke (jahke@amoeba.stgt.sub.org) wrote:
: Hi all!

: Has someone got ingres03 to work with Linux 0.99pl2 and gcc 2.3.3 (libc4.2)
: I got it from tsx-11.mit.edu and applied the new patch 'patch.tmp'.

: I got it to compile, but when trying to create a database it seems to
: hang ... ps shows that there is 'sysmod' running (hanging).

: Any help welcome!

: Thilo

I compiled ingres03.lzh from sources ( obtained from fgb1.fgb ) and had no 
problems , execpt one file that held it's contents twice. I deleted the 
second part of that file, and there we went.
BTW : I didn't apply any patches. Did you compile it with -fwritable-strings,
      and did you start the ingres locking driver "ingreslock" ??
	
	NOTE : You should have the /etc/inet/services file, that stats
		ingreslock .

		udo
From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Internal compiler error while building kernel
Keywords: gcc
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:14:26 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)

In article <1992Dec28.133156.301@camaro.uucp>, tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley)
writes:
|> In article <1992Dec28.010228.9589@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
|> (William T. O Connell) writes:

|> >When building the kernel (via 'make all'), I occasionally get the 
|> >following error message and compilation stops:
|> >	gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
...
|> >What is causing this compiler error? Any ideas?
|>  
|>   I get this the odd time as well, but its usually signal 11, I have had it
|> since SLS 098p1, and someone mentioned ages ago that it might be my gcc, but
|> |> it dosen't happen as often now, but it was annoying.  I'm using 4.2 as
|> well,
|> and still occasionally get sig 11 fatals.

As far as I could tell from a friends machine when it only had 2MB on the board
This was a common occurance (where the machine ran out of both swap and memory)
he added more ram and has never seen the problem again,....

Phil
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jahke@amoeba.stgt.sub.org (Thilo Jahke)
Subject: Mail- and News-Reader for X
Keywords: Mail News X
Organization: Private Amoeba BBS
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:00:58 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi!

I'm looking for EMail- and Newsreaders under X11!

Has someone compiled xmail (or smilar)

What about xrn? I got it to compile, but it needs a nntp-server -
is there a working nntp-server for linux (I don't get it to compile)

Thanks in advance, Thilo

-- 
        +--------------------------------------------+
       /  Thilo Jahke, Private Linux Site, Germany  /
      /       EMail: jahke@amoeba.stgt.sub.org     /
     +--------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: etmelag@dcrosby27.ericsson.se (Louis Lagendijk)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Partition table failure, 200 MB of data at stake...
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:22:54 GMT

>
>	C: drive failure
>	
>	RUN SETUP UTILITY
>
>	Press <F1> to RESUME
>
please do as this message says: run your rom setup and check the
HD params. You might have to run a separate program but pressing 
esc at bootup probably will do the job.
Louis
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need 3c501 driver
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:59:17 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan9.001355.12354@brainiac.mn.org> jrc@brainiac.mn.org writes:

   In article <726375686snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:   >In article <1993Jan6.031516.25491@brainiac.mn.org> jrc@brainiac.mn.org writes:   >
   >   I am sure somebody out there has hacked a 3c501 driver for Linux. If
   >   you have one, please email it to me.......
   >
   >Go buy yourself a real Ethernet card.  You can get NE2000 clones for
   >under $100 now...
   >

   I don't want to buy a real ethernet card.  I have a real ethernet card.  I
   also have some crappy ethernet cards, and I need a driver for them.  They 
   aren't even 3c501's, they are 3c500's - those big blue monsters that shipped
   in '85. 

   Next time someone asks me for a packet driver, I'm gonna say 'go get a real
   ndis driver', just so I can be a prick like you.

I'm sorry you feel that way.  There is no way to write a 3c501 driver
with performance proportional to the speed of a 386.  What you are
trying to do is the equivalent to running Linux of a 80ms 20Mb MFM
drive.  Most people would probably think that unreasonable...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
Crynwr Software           Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.              315-268-1925 Voice  |  LPF member - ask me about
Potsdam, NY 13676         315-268-9201 FAX    |  the harm software patents do.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: smackinla@cc.curtin.edu.au (Pat Mackinlay)
Subject: Re: 99.2 and Seagate ST-01
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:51:38 GMT


> I was using a ST-01 without the ROM under .99 and earlier, detected
> by setting the OVERRIDE variable to 0xca000 in seagate.h.
>  This approach did not work in .99.2 . No disks or tapes were detected
> in bootup. When I put the ROM back in the ST01 and recompiled without
> the OVERRRIDE, .99-2 worked ok.
>   Anyone have any hints on what changed?

Yes. The ST-0x driver in 0.99p2 now supports Future Domain TMC88x series 
controllers (and any based on the FD TMC-950 chip) transparently. 
Unfortunately, in writing the patch, I managed to break the OVERRIDE 
support. I have sent another patch off to Linus which should make it into 
the next kernel release and re-enable the OVERRIDE support. For the moment, 
if it concerns you greatly, edit linux/kernel/blk_drv/scsi/seagate.c. Find 
the bit in seagate_st0x_detect() that looks like:

	...
	#ifdef OVERRIDE
	base_address = (void *) OVERRIDE;
	...

and change it to:

	...
	#ifdef OVERRIDE
	base_address = (void *) OVERRIDE;
	controller_type = SEAGATE; /* or FD if you have an FD board... */
	...

Sorry about the trouble.

Pat -- Have a day!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Linux (0.98 SLS) does not recogonize 20 Meg Memory Config.
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 00:43:34 GMT

In article <1il110INN92@fast.hal.COM>, saxena@hal.COM (Nirmal Saxena) writes:
|> 
|> In order to run X windows I installed additional 16Mbytes (4 4meg sims)
|> of memory to my 486Dx/33Mhz system which already had 4 Mbytes of memory
|> (4 1Meg simms). My AMI BIOS setup recognizes 20 Mbytes of memory but the
|> linux (SLS 0.98 distribution) operating system recognizes only 16 Mbytes of
|> memory. My configuration was 4M in bank0 and 16M in bank 1. Suspecting
|> that linux does not support holes in memory space I tried 16M in bank 0 and 
|> 4 M in bank 1, even then only 16 Megabytes were recogonized.
|> 
|> I will appreciate any help or pointers in this regard.


There are two versions of kernel, one for <= 16 MB, the other for > 16 MB.
Which one are you using? You may have to recompile the kernel to use
memory above 16MB.

H.J.
From: hagan@freya.cs.umass.edu (Craig I. Hagan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need 3c501 driver
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:26:18 GMT
	<1993Jan9.002313.12543@brainiac.mn.org>
	<1993Jan11.210006.25237@super.org>
Organization: /users/users3/vis/hagan/.organization
In-reply-to: becker@super.org's message of 11 Jan 93 21:00:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.210006.25237@super.org> becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes: