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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Terrified of Ceiling Fan!
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:03:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.172951.26514@cbnews.cb.att.com> sandyb@cbnews.cb.att.com (sandra.e.braun) writes:
>Hi.  I just moved to a house with a ceiling fan.  My cat Coco is absolutely 
>terrified of it.  She will run out of the room and hide downstairs under the
>ironing board until it's turned off.  Then she sneaks back in the living
>room and stares at it for ~1 hour, just to make sure it's not going to turn
>on again.

Gee, our two cats don't mind it at all. In fact Boots thinks it's terrific.
She'll sit on the dining room table staring at it with her head moving in
circles. And if you hold her up to it, she'll bat at it. The chain is even
better, that's great fun!
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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: litter box troubles
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:41:23 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.202957.14310@cs.yale.edu>  
loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
> You might try changing your cat's diet so she makes firmer poops that
> aren't as likely to stick to her rear.  Eating too much can also cause
> soft stools or diarrhea.  
> 
> My cats recommend Meow Mix!
> 
> -Sandra

- - - - - - - -

I also have a Maine Coom (Boo). She has had "klingons" a couple of times.  
Watch for your cat to drag its bum on the carpet (not funny). I have been  
feeding Boo Science Diet lately (with a little Fancy Feast a day) and  
haven't seen any "klingons." We also use regular litter with rock type  
stuff (Control).

lyndap
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From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, clhoerth@david.wheaton.edu (Cathe L Hoerth) writes:
>I'd like to just post a short eulogy for my cat who died last summer but
>is still much missed - Ace, a 12-pound all black (well, okay, he was
>black-on-black stripes, but only when stretched out in sunlight) fixed

My siamese died at age 13, almost ten years ago, it still hurts.
>
>Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to my question - what are some of
>your silliest pet names for your pet?  I call Sugar such things as
>"Muffin-pet" "Copper-nose" "White-ears" "Nuisance" "Brat-Cat" "Furball"
>and, embarrassingly, "Snufflenose".  This is just a random sampling -
>I'm wondering what silly things you all have come up with.
>
>                        Whew!  I'll stop here.
>                                Cathe

Kepurr Lee (9 yrs/14lb tiger) = Big Guy or Stud (He loves the last one)
Muffin Marie (8 yrs/8lb tabby) =  Miss Muffin/muffy girl/mama's girl
Tigger-by-Digger (2 yrs/8lb mixed persian/maine coon/?) = Tiggy/tig
Lady Teal Mocha (2 yrs/5lb himalayan) = TT/Lady T/Lady Teal/Teally Weally/
                weseal/T Mocha/mama's baby
O'Yogi Bear (2 yrs/8lb himalayan) = Big Boy/Bear/B Bear/Groundhog/Yogums.

I think that's all
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From: jim.heil@cutting.hou.tx.us (Jim Heil)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Fresh catnip?
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: jim.heil@cutting.hou.tx.us (Jim Heil)
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525

JRK>I have a very well-adjusted apartment cat (calico, spayed, etc)
JRK>who stays indoors all the time (tire tracks would clash with
JRK>her color pattern).  The other day someone offered me a bunch
JRK>of fresh catnip.  Now I went through my drug stage with
JRK>everyone else in the late 60's/early 70's.  And I'm really
JRK>not any the better for it.  So I wonder.  Why give the cat
JRK>what seems to be a feline sort of wildwood weed?  Is this
JRK>stuff really safe?  And whose enjoyment is it intended for?
JRK>Frankly I don't imagine getting much of a thrill from
JRK>watching her get stoned.  So I threw the stuff out.
JRK>Is my cat deprived?

Gee, I think you should let her have some. I've never heard anyone say
it's harmful. It makes her happy.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cheri@decoy.uucp (24473-stead)
Subject: Re: cat places
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:39:06 GMT

GH>The only time I really 'lost' my older cat (Moustache) was just after I moved
GH>into my new place.  I had searched everywhere, and was starting to really
GH>*worry* when I happened to casually look up - straight into his eyes - as he
GH>lay on top of my bookshelves!

This reminds me of the time we found one of my mother's cats curled up in a
kitchen cabinet -- it was rather startling to open the door and find the cat
staring at me!!!  We're still not completely sure how (or why) he opened the
door, climbed in, and closed the door after himself!

And since I'm writing anyway, I'll tell you about one of my cats, Bentley,
who likes to lay on the seat of the exercise bike (at least, he did when I
had it in the living room so he was still in the middle of things).  His 
rear end was on the large part of the seat, with his chin resting on the
small end and his front paws dangling down either side (perhaps I should 
mention that Bentley is a fairly large cat, about 20 lbs).  This is a very
silly looking pose, to begin with, but then it got better when he'd
notice his tail twitching behind him, and try to catch it -- but it
wasn't there any more.  After a few pounces, he'd end up running around
chasing his tail -- still balancing on the seat!  Of course, he fell off
after a few turns, but not before I was in hysterics!

Life would be so boring without my cats!

-- Cheri
From: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cat places
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:50:21 EST
Reply-To: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

GH>The only time I really 'lost' my older cat (Moustache) was just after I moved
GH>into my new place.  I had searched everywhere, and was starting to really
GH>*worry* when I happened to casually look up - straight into his eyes - as he
GH>lay on top of my bookshelves!

Reminds me of our Joey.  He loves to sleep on the hot water tank at the 
cottage.  Of course, now we know, but the first time we really had trouble
finding him.  When he was a kitten, he seemed to have only three modes...
1) full speed, 2) purr and rub when held by a human, 3) passed out cold
asleep.  So when he was asleep on the water tank he paid absolutely no
attention to our searching for him....steve (and joey eyeing me from his
shelf over the computer)
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From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My litter box keeps getting tipped over, even when clean.
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:39:57 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.120455.6042@iscsvax.uni.edu> 
	klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> [ cat tipping litter box over ]
>Chances are he doesn't like the way the litter feels on his feet, and is
>trying to balance on the rim of the pan.  DumDum does this, and if he
>chooses the end that all the litter is at (courtesy of the other cats),
>the pan will rise up and hit him in the fanny, scattering litter all over.

This is pretty funny.

Afterwards, does he walk away with the look that says "I *meant* to do
that"?

Dave
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From: cczcole@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Marlon Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Which litter? UK
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:51:23 GMT
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham

In article <zlsiida.66@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>I used to get   English Grey   for Truffle, and she was fine with it (she 
>usually goes outside somewhere, but if the weather's bad or something...).
>...
>....  So what UK-available litters do your cats 
>like?  If you use/used English Grey, have you had this problem?  etc etc

Hi Dave!
   we haven't used English Grey at all I'm afraid; our particular favourite is
Sainsbury's own Fullers Earth type, because it clumps together well :-)  If we
run out we occasionally pick up some called "Thomas" from the local corner
shop, but that's a bit wasteful as it's difficult to get the used bits out.
As an aside it says on the packet that you can freely flush the stuff down the
pan, but we wondered about whether it does actually flush away properly - 
anyone got any nasty blocked u-bend stories?  (just to lower the tone for a
moment ;-)
      On reflection it seems we buy the litter according to _our_ preferences
rather than the cats :-)  they did refuse one brand once, but otherwise seem
happy to dump on anything - we got quite enthusiastic about one made from
shredded recycled newspaper (or take your newspapers to the office and shred 
your own :-) however, like ordinary newspaper, when it gets wet it's horrible.
Yuck!

	Cheers,
		Marlon
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel)
Subject: Re: Advice on Allergies
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:15:04 GMT


Even tho' the allergen is carried in the dander and saliva--

the hairs of the cats are permeated with saliva and covered with dander so

with a rex (with very little hair) there is  less hair floating about.......

therefore you have less allergens in the home.

Kathy
From: good@iris.genetics.uga.edu (daniel good)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My litter box keeps getting tipped over, even when clean.
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:45:48 GMT
	<schumach.713666301@convex.convex.com>
Organization: Biological Sequence/Structure Computation Facility

In article <schumach.713666301@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:


   Shirley's Law: If your cat can tip over the litter box, then there's not
   enough litter in it.

	Well, there is obviously not enough litter in the box, 
	the kitty dumped it all over the floor! :^)

Joan (Ooh, I've been at work too long!)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: Re: New cat--help will not sleep at night
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:24:25 GMT

In article <1684610188.LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu> LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu (Leslie M. Haas) writes:
>My friend is a brand new owner of a baby kitten, approximately 6
>weeks old and it is named Malcolm.  She wants advice on how to
>train it not to jump on her while she is sleeping!  We have
>all given her advice at work (everyone owns at least one cat)
>but to no avail.  It is time to seek advice from the experts.
>Thanks in advance......

This is the nature of kittens.  About all you can do is to wait
6 months to a year for Malcolm to grow up, then he *may* be more
placid...

- Jonathan Thornburg and Mortina II (alas 4000km away on an island in Canada)
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wants out)
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:39:46 GMT

anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield) writes:

>I really think the emphasis on keeping cats inside is a North American
>concern -- not without some good reasons, admittedly.  In England,
>where I grew up around LOTS of cats, it was just assumed that cats
>should be free to roam.  The oldest cat I have ever met I met in
>England -- she was an indoor/outdoor farm cat and was 22 years old.
>Her owners were in their eighties.  ALL of them were very sprightly!

Gidday--here's an Aussie point of view:  I certainly wouldn't say that
keeping cats indoors is a North American view, really; it's certainly a
big issue here.  One reason is the enormous devastation that cats (not native
to Australia) are wreaking on our native fauna, but certainly the issue
of safety for the *cat* is just as big here as anywhere.  I let my three
out when I'm home, but they *never* are allowed out of eyesight--that is,
they know they are to stay in the back yard and not jump the fence. (I
always keep an eye out, and when I see one looking to jump onto the fence,
I simply open the window and cluck my tongue--they know this means
"disapproval"--and the cat in question will flop down and roll over on
his/her back--*very* cute!)  

When I'm not at home, they stay inside.  Stats:  one is 10, one is 6,
one is 8 months.  All are extremely healthy and happy and are never sick.

--Brent
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: lifespans of cats (indoor vs. outdoor)
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:37:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: europa.1992Aug14.175917.10616
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

I believe if was in Cat Fancy that I read a couple of years ago that
the average outdoor cat lives approximately 6 years, indoor/outdoor 9 
years, and indoor only 12+ years.

To prove this point, I made a list of the cats in my life.

Rusty: died at approximately 3 years of age by being run over by
a truck a few months after moving to a larger city.  The neighbor said
they thought the truck swerved to actually hit our cat.  He was an outdoor
cat most of the time.

Fluffy: lived only about 4 years because she died of distemper.  My mom 
wasn't familiar with getting cat shots way back then.  He was an outdoor
cat predominantly.

Calico: lived about 5 years.  After we moved to No. VA, she apparently
was homesick and would go up under the hood of my mom's car.  One day when
my dad started the engine up, he heard a loud thump.  When he opened the
hood up at the gas station, there she was sliced through the stomach by
the fan belt.  She was an indoor/outdoor cat.

Kelly: Was a stray when we got her and she continued to be an 
indoor/outdoor cat for a few years.  Then she became an indoor only cat
and she is now 11 years old.  Other than a case of FUS, she is doing well.

Cynthia:  Has always been an indoor cat.  She's too scared to go out.  She
is 12 and has never had a problem at all.

Blackie:  My mom's stray has been diagnosed with Leukemia.  He doesnt
have any symptoms yet.  Now he stays in all the time and is kept away
from the other cats.  He is only about 2.  We'll see how he survives.


The above cases point to the fact that indoor cats do lead longer
healthier lives.  My youngsters stay inside and do have all their
shoots.  I do want them to lead long, healthy lives.  I couldn't live
with myself if I let them out and they got hit by a car or something.  I
would feel like it was my fault.

Just one last note.  A neighbor's cat got killed by a tomcat recently.
Who would have thought of that menance yet.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: Re: New cat--help will not sleep at night
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:37:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.211317.21729@informix.com>, davek@informix.com (David Kosenko) writes:
> 
> In article <tertium.714160942@milton> tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
> >LHAAS@kentvm.kent.edu (Leslie M. Haas) writes:
> >>My friend is a brand new owner of a baby kitten, approximately 6
> >>weeks old and it is named Malcolm.  She wants advice on how to
> >>train it not to jump on her while she is sleeping!  We have
> >>all given her advice at work (everyone owns at least one cat)
> >>but to no avail.  It is time to seek advice from the experts.
> >>Thanks in advance......
> >> 
> >Teee, heee.  Haa, Haa Haaa.  Oh that's a good one!  Lemme know what you
> >find out.
> 
> C'mon now, the answer is obvious: close the bedroom door with the cat
> on the other side!   Leave lots of toys on said other side and ignore
> meows of protest.  Kitten will adjust in a few nights and find ways to
> amuse itself.  When kitten is a bit older and less maniacal, open the
> door again at night.
> 
> My kitten doesn't indulge in such antics until about 6am, which is close
> enough to the time I get up to be tolerable.  In fact, it can be a lot of fun
> playing "guess which body part I will move next".
> 
> Dave
> -- 
> Disclaimer: These opinions are not those of Informix Software, Inc.
> **************************************************************************
> The heart and the mind on a parallel course, never the two shall meet.
> 						-E. Saliers
> 
> 

I tried the "ignore the kitty" routine by putting her outside the door.  
Within a matter of about 45 seconds, she had dug a lovely hole in some new
carpet.  She has trained us not to lock her in any room with carpet.  The only
alternative is to put her in the basement and listen to the howling.  We
learned to get used to the pestering at night and generally she sleeps with us
till about 4-5am when the playing starts.  We often can just wrestle her down 
to sleep again or she leaves in search of food and drink.  I must admit, gone
are the days of uninterrupted sleep and sleeping in on the weekends.  Cats
have absolutely NO respect for weekends!
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: HELP!!  Cat licking self raw!
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:54:39 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <lis.714358386@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu  
(Elisabeth Riba) writes:
> All summer, I've noticed bloody spots on Boopsie's heel.  I've assumed
> she kept injuring herself somewhere.  Tonight, I noticed a new and
> recent bloody spot.  Then, later, I saw her licking that spot very
> heavily and there was fresh blood again.  My bedsheets and floors
> (fortunately wood, not carpet) are spotted with blood smears from
> places she's sat.  
> Beyond taking Boopsie to the vet, what can I do to stop this?  
> Other stories, advice and sympathy greatly appreciated.
> 
> Boopsie's back legs:
>     \     |
>      \    |
>      /   / <--where the raw spots are
>     /   /
> ,--/   /
> |_____/
> -- 
> --------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * 


My sister's cat, Noogie, had sores on his legs from fighting with other  
cats. He irrated them so much that they took him to the vet. The vet put  
drains on his legs and an Elizabethan collar on him. The sores were very  
infected. I would advise taking him to the vet. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Cat likes cantelope???
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:03:56 GMT

In article <42150004@hplsla.hp.com>, tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) writes:
>Does anyone else out there have a cat that loves _cantelope_??  As far
>as I know, no other veggies do this to him.  We keep a bowl of kitchen
>scraps that gets put on the compost pile occasionally, and if we put
>cantelope rind in it, Mittens will almost invariably dig it out and
>chew on it.  And he loves it if we cut up some of the inside flesh and
>give it to him.

My neurotic cat Clark likes melon pretty well, but his real favorite is
squash.  Any kind of squash.  It's zucchini season right now, so he's a
very happy cat indeed (except that he's permanently convinced someone is
going to hit him over the head with a shovel, but that's another story.)
Whenever we fix any kind of squash dish we have to make a little extra
portion for Clark, or he drives us crazy.  He's 13 now and he's always
been like this.  Go figure.

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: BROKEN TAIL!!??
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:42:46 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <92232.123423U30644@uicvm.uic.edu> U30644@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
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>From: U30644@uicvm.uic.edu
>Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
>Subject: BROKEN TAIL!!??
>Message-ID: <92232.123423U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
>Date: 19 Aug 92 17:34:23 GMT
>Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
>Lines: 22

>Help!  My kitty seems to have a broken/dislocated tail!!

>We took in a stray last week and she has been beating up on our other 2
>cats... well, a few days ago I was petting Zenny and I noticed a
>swelling around the middle of her tail.  She was very sensitive around
>this area, and she would yowl when I tried to examine it.

>When she walks, there is a noticeable "bend" to it... I am taking her to
>the vet today, but was wondering if anyone had any advice/suggestions on
>what I can do to make Zenny feel better or if anyone has been in a
>similar situation.

>I feel like a guilty parent.  I saved the stray's life (she had an
>infected uterus and needed surgery) but now my Zenny has a broken
>tail!!!

>Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks.

>p.s. She is walking around, eating, etc.  She seems ok except for the
>tenderness and the bend in her tail.

>Joel

Well the closest thing I can come to this is one of our cats, Lafayette, 
managed to get his tail caught in a door.  This resulted in "degloving" - 
the skin and fur peeled off the cartilage of the tail.

In his case, the solution was partial amputation.  Luckily it was only a few 
inches.
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