HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Squash
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:20:35 GMT
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Aug17.180342.6162@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
>Why then, Eric, did you put the UI guidelines out for ftp in Squash  
>format? I expected you to unSquash them, tar them, and compress them. 

You must be thinking of Allen Braunsdorf (maintainer of the
Purdue archives), who stated that as *his* personal policy.

I agreed to make the contents of NeXT's diskette available.
What's in that directory is what was on that diskette (minus the
empty lost+found created when you make a new filesystem).

This in no way constitutes an endorsement of Squash.  Neither I,
San Francisco State University, the Trustees of the California
State University, nor the State of California make any claims as
to the suitability or usefulness of this data for any purpose.
No warranty is expressed or implied.  Use at your own risk, etc.

					-=EPS=-
-- 
You're more than welcome to volunteer *your* machine to be
pounded on day and night by ravenous FTP clients.

BTW, NeXTs with only 8MB RAM don't make good file servers.
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Correction- Mail Not Working
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:52:11 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

Another help folks,                                                             
                                                    
                                                                                
                                                    
After a year of no problems, all sorts of things.  I screwed up                 
                                                    
some things by networking, then unnetworking, then making a mistake             
                                                    
and accidentally changing some file permissions.                                
                                                    
                                                                                
                                                    
I cannot use mail with my slab (it isn't connected to anything                  
                                                    
now but it will be soon).  Console says "cant open /usr/lib/sendmail.cf".       
                                                    
I have no such problems on an old cube with an external hd.                     
                                                    
                                                                                
                                                    
I can find /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf as a link to sendmailsubsidary.cf          
                                                    
on the working (mail) machine and as a link to oldsendmail.cf on the

nonworking (for mail) machine.  Fixing this by creating a new

link still doesn't work.  Any ideas or do I have to rebuild my 

disk - Tom Herbert (therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu)
From: prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Sales figures
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:49:52 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

In article <1992Aug20.161439.7358@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.163945.286@prim> prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave  
>Griffiths) writes:
>> Have NeXT released any sales figures recently? When was the last quarter
>> for which unit shipments were published? How many machines were sold in  
>91?
>> 
>> No guesstimates please - I'm looking for official figures. 
>
>NeXT has never published unit sales figures. 1991 revenue was $127  
>million.
>

Yes they have, which is why I asked the question. I came across an
announcement back in April 1991 of their unit sales for Q1 91 - 8000.
That made me wonder if that was a one-off (presumably because it was
strikingly good), or whether they'd done so subsequently as well
(I seem to remember figures for 91 but that was probably netguesses
based on revenue estimates).

Dave Griffiths

PS: Old news:

>From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM
>Date: Fri, 5 Apr 91 07:55:53 PST
>Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.62)
>To: nug@cpac.washington.edu
>Subject: NeXT SHIPS 8,000 CPUs IN FIRST QUARTER -ascii version - 

etc.
From: bense@heart3.ucsd.edu (Booker C. Bense)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Number of users on Turbo Mono...
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:05:45 GMT
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD

In article <1992Aug13.190301.2409@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) writes:
>
>About how many network (vt100) users can log into one of the
>newer turbos when the system has 20 megs of memory or so?
>10? 15? 20?
>CW
>-- 

- It depends on what they want to do, and what an acceptable response
time is. You'll need to add more entries in /dev/tty, I think the
current default is 16 tty's available. Remote logins are usually
memory cheap, if they're just doing ascii stuff in a terminal,(i.e.
unix mail, vi , gopher... (no emacs %-)) I'd guess that you could have
up to about 24 users comfortably with 20 megs. My rough estimate is 
be that you'd require about 8 megs for the os and Window stuff and 
be able to support one additional user for each additional 1/2 meg
of memory. If you have a >>>>POWER USER<<<< on the console, bump that
8 up to 20. 

- On a creaky '030 with 16 megs we often have up to 10 users at a time
without noticeable swapping. 

- Booker C. Bense                    
prefered: benseb@grumpy.sdsc.edu	"I think it's GOOD that everyone 
NeXT Mail: benseb@next.sdsc.edu 	   becomes food " - Hobbes


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley)
Subject: Weather and LibraryOfCongress
Keywords: weather, library
Reply-To: mike@media-lab.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:50:11 GMT

A revised, improved version of Weather is available by ftp from
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/release-2.0/source/Weather1.0.tar.Z

This version correctly handles the new menu format from the
U Michigan Weather Underground servers on madlab and downwind;
it also contains pointers to a number of other services,
maps, and the like.

sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/release-2.0/source/LibraryOfCongress1.0.t 
ar.Z

is a nifty interface for searching the on-line Library of Congress
card catalog.

Michael
From: alex@laos (Alex D. Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mouse Enabled Preference
Keywords: dwrite, dread, preferences, .NeXT
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:07:59 GMT
Reply-To: alex@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Aug18.222003.7822@Trirex.COM> mmelling@Trirex.com (Michael  
Mellinger) writes:
> Does anyone have any idea why my Mouse Button Enabled preference gets  
> reset to Disabled?  I have to set it everytime I log in!  Ugh.
> 
> I vote for human readable Prefences/Initialization files in NeXTstep 4.0.
> More along the lines of X-Windows. (Cut to someone at NeXT saying: "over  
> my dead body.")
> 
> -Mike

Mike:

You may want to check the permissions on your ~/.NeXT directory and two files  
in there, .NeXTDefaultsL and .NeXTDefaultsD.  These files store all your  
preference settings.


Best regards,


Alex Duong Nghiem          Phone: (512) 343-1111
Pencom Software            Fax:   (512) 343-9650    
9050 Capital of TX Hwy N.  Mail:  alex@pencom.com
Suite 300                  Mail:  co-Xist_support@pencom.com
Austin, TX 78759           Mail:  co-Xist_info@pencom.com
USA
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From: pirla@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: hanging
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:57:19 GMT



Help! When I log out, log into root, and then log back into my account (sometimes
it's easier to do things from Workspace) most of the apps I start up hang. After I reboot, 
all's fine. The apps are in my /Apps folder, not /LocalApps. 

Thanks

Robert de Lucca
rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu

Followup-To: 
Distribution: none
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Subject: Re: Call for junk mail.
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company
	<1992Aug11.210027.12265@terminator.cc.umich.edu>
	<1992Aug12.031024.7793@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.031024.7793@leland.Stanford.EDU> dmitri@physics (Dmitri Linde) writes:
   In article <1992Aug11.210027.12265@terminator.cc.umich.edu> hubt@umich.edu (Hubert Chen) writes:
   >> Also, if anyone has the harmless but frightening display postscript
   >> hacks (from about six months ago I believe), I'm curious to see those
   >> now.

cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/postscript/PSHacks.tar.Z
-- 
   /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
  /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */
 /* Mail: Kauppakatu 1B18/SF-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N25.44E */
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:00:31 GMT

>> In article <59702@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
>> > In article <1992Aug13.055619.1064@net23.uucp> coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com  
>> (Brian Policky) writes:
>> > > Is there an official release date for NeXTstep 3.0?
>> > On Friday, someone at 1-(800)Try-NeXT told me the release date is Aug 24.
>> > > And how long before the Universities get it?
>> > good question
>> 
>> I hate to flame, but I'm really tired of hearing this.  I
>> feel completely betrayed and more than a little angry.
>> 
>> Considering our semester starts on the 24th, the 3.0
>> release is really too late for me whenever it is.  I got the
>> impression from early news of 3.0 that I'd have it up and
>> running by now.  The date kept slipping and so did my chance
>> of using it any time soon.  
>> 
>> A big "Boo!  Hiss!" to missing a summer release date.

What are you guys complaining about?  Just upgrade and go! There's not
gonna be any bugs in 3.0!


Smirkfully Yours, 
Dave "3.0.0.1" Basiji
-- 
David Basiji 
"C neophyte, Bioengineering Grad Student, Internet Personality"

email: basiji@u.washington.edu          
NeXTmail: basiji@larry.pathology.washington.edu

		"Whining is just anger coming out of a very small hole."
            --Stuart Smalley
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From: todd@liveware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: An appology to Yrrid from Moderator of c.s.n.announce
Keywords: OOOPS
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:12:41 GMT
Reply-To: todd@liveware.com
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Liveware Corporation, Fort Collins, Colorado 80524

Dear World,

Well we are all human.  I guess I should stop posting
at 2 in the morning.  I didn't hit the OK button in
the NewsGrazer Prefs panel and such a previous posting
reply-to field was included by accident.  I didn't
mean any harm to Yrrid.  If they can, please forward
mail to me at <todd@liveware.com>, and if you mailed
a response to me by clicking reply, then resend
the mail to me at the above address...

Again, sorry and now I am awake and aware ;').

Todd Nathan
csna modman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu (Orion Edward Poplawski)
Subject: Remote terminal problems
Reply-To: orion@proxima.cc.colorado.edu
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:08:21 GMT

I have a hard time getting the proper terminal setups when I log in to our next  
remotely from various terminals.  Perhaps someone could explain the Unix  
terminal setup commands in more detail to me?

- Orion
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Articles Needed for BANGup Magazine
Reply-To: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:47:32 GMT

BANGup Magazine (An Excellent NeXT Magazine) Seeks Authors

We are rapidly approaching the publication deadline for the October issue  
of BANGup Magazine, and we need more articles!  If you are interested in  
writing about NeXT, whether the topic be fiction or fact, experience or  
desire, please get in touch with us!

Send us you postal address, electronic mail address, voice and fax  
telephone numbers (if you don't have one of these, don't worry).  We are  
looking for ideas, articles, and authors who wish to contribute.  Include  
what it is you would like to do for the magazine, and we'll get in touch  
with you right away!

	Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
	Editor in Chief, BANGup Magazine
	900 High School Way, Number 2106
	Mountain View, CA 94041
	415.966.8919
-- 
 Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software - zac@dolphin.com (NeXTMail welcome!)
         900 High School Way - Suite 2106 - Mountain View - CA - 94041
 To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy... and dull
 fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. -- R. A. Heinlen
From: nils@turing.geom.umn.edu (Nils McCarthy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Tools Inspector: adding applications to file "classes"
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:38:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Aug13.143827.22492
Reply-To: nils@geom.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota



In article <1992Aug12.153419.4758@news.vanderbilt.edu>  
omar@talnext.cc.vanderbilt.edu (Omar Patino-Siliceo) writes:

>Hi NeXT-ers!

>This is probably a FAQ but I have to ask it anyway. Is it possible to add an  
>application to the "tool inspector" of a file (or set of files with the same  
>extension)? If so, how do you do it?

Each application keeps a list of what file extensions it can handle. It
is in the __header section of the __ICON segment. (you can manipulate
segments and stuff with SegHoarker, available from your favorite archive
site).

A typical application's iconheader looks like this: (also described
in NextDev bookshelf somewhere)
F <application name> <application name> app
and if it's a .app, we also have:
F <application name>.app <application name> pap
then come the list of file extentions:
S <extention> <application name> <long type>
i.e. the iconheader of WriteNow looks like:
F	WriteNow	WriteNow	app
F	WriteNow.app	WriteNow	app
S	wn	WriteNow	document
S	wndict	WriteNow	dictionary

So, it's straightforward to add a new extention to an application.

>Let's say that I would like to add Emacs so I could make Editor or Emacs the  
>default application for all documents with extension "letter". How do I go  
>about it? Thanks.

well, there's a default for this: Workspace DefaultOpenApp
For instance, when i tell EL2 (emacs listener. i think the
Emacs application now accepts file open messages now, but
i'm not sure at all.) to install itself,

mymachine% dread Workspace DefaultOpenApp
Workspace DefaultOpenApp EL2

So, you can just dwrite it to whatever application you want to use instead
of edit..

-nils

--
always have fun!\_________ I'm Nils McCarthy of the Center for Computation
it's me! nils@geom.umn.edu\___  and Visualization of Geometric Structures.
interface copyrights are evil!\______________________________________________
Hi! I'm a new generation of the .signature virus. Copy me to join in the fun!
From: prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Do you want free objects from FSF?
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:38:58 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

In article <KHERA.92Aug19091232@thneed.cs.duke.edu> khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera) writes:
>I'd be happy with an Object class, so I can at least start writing my
>own stuff using gcc.  Currently, gcc doesn't even have the base class
>that is needed for dispatching messages.  I think that should be the
>first effort.  Maybe we can convince NeXT it would be in their best
>interest to release their base class so that Obj-C will become more
>popular and be available on many platforms immediately.
>
>Of course, I think that the base Object class should be totally
>unencumbered by the GPL, like the rest of the gcc runtime support
>library.  That way, if you write your own Object library, the
>resulting binary image will not fall under the GPL unless you want it
>that way.  Of course, the object library should be under the same
>terms as libg++ or GNU libc.

I agree that the Objective-C runtime (specifically the Object class) is
the most urgently needed thing so that we can port at least _some_ of our
code to other platforms. It would be nice to make a start on the appkit
(eg List, Storage, Speaker/Listener).

As for a binary object library coming under GNU licence conditions, this
is a _bad_ idea because it shuts out commercial developers and thus ultimately
hurts the consumer. I mean suppose someone went and developed AREXX for the
NeXT and then slapped a GNU licence on it - it would be useless because no
commercial apps would be able to use it.

Dave Griffiths
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Subject: Re: Missile Command (new)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: new game
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:17:39 GMT

I probably should note that this should be on the archives in
the submission directories as MCommand.tar.Z, and will probably
migrate to the 2.0-release/source directory, and should in fact
replace the previous version of MCommand.
But I won't.
Kurt
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTprinter - DMA Underrun?
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:53:24 GMT
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

I just got my new NeXTprinter and this is what it said when I tried to do the
400dpi horizontal or vertical print from the PrinterTester application:

Aug 21 17:05:17 lewhoosh mach: np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page

The pages came out as pretty much solid, although the test image and other
print jobs came out fine.

I waited an awful long time for this printer considering it's an item that
SHOULD be in stock, so I'm leary of sending the thing back if this is just an
annoyance and not a real problem.

[as a side note, when the printer powers on (I use the np0-off script) the
lights dim and my UPS kicks in... yikes, eh?]

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Squash
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:12:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.022035.21020@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P.  
Scott) writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.180342.6162@leland.Stanford.EDU>
> 	m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
> >Why then, Eric, did you put the UI guidelines out for ftp in Squash  
> >format? I expected you to unSquash them, tar them, and compress them. 
> 
> You must be thinking of Allen Braunsdorf (maintainer of the
> Purdue archives), who stated that as *his* personal policy.
> 
> I agreed to make the contents of NeXT's diskette available.
> What's in that directory is what was on that diskette (minus the
> empty lost+found created when you make a new filesystem).

I didn't intend to imply that you had said that you would do so. I only  
knew that you were going to put it on the archive, and that you had a  
strong aversion to Squash. Hence my expectation.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Dan Quayle needs a new running mate.
George Bush undermines his chances of being re-elected Vice President.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul B. Verket)
Subject: Re: Anyone have opinions on NeXT 17" and 21" color monitors?
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 local 2 PL4
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 03:10:46 GMT

kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker) writes:
: I'm about to buy a color NeXTStation but cannot decide between the 2 color
: monitors that NeXT offers...

There's no comparasion between the two! The 21" has _much_ better color
saturation and while the screen resolution is the same on both, the extra
size is very nice on the eyes.

Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Squash
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 07:24:26 GMT

Are Squash's file formats (and compression algorithms) publicly known?
Is there a way to unSquash files from the command line?
Is there an unSquasher that runs on anything other than a 680x0 NeXT?

tar & compress pass those criteria.  So do many other compression
and archiving utilities.

Trusting one's data to a proprietary (and unique) scheme strikes
me as incredibly foolish.  Using it for software distribution is
questionable at best.

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: 3.0 Upgrade--include LISP, MATHEMATICA&IMPROV ??
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:33:25 GMT

unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes:
  [unregistered@ ???]
> tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) writes:
> : Does anyone know....you beta user types out there....
> : when we upgrade to 3.0, do we still get lisp, mathematica and improv?
  [skipping along]
> But Lisp stopped quite some time ago and Improv stopped in 1991...as
> for Mma, I think that stopped about a year ago in the USA and is
> stopping in a month in the UK...No one will want it after that I
> should think....

Mathematica has not completely stopped in the USA.  It's still bundled in  
for educational customers, though I believe that industrial customers don't  
get it bundled in anymore.  My understanding (which might be better  
described as rumor) is that Mathematica should still be bundled in for new  
educational purchasers until the end of this year, at least.  Possibly  
longer, but I doubt it.

Note that while it's bundled in with the purchase of a new NeXT, it does  
come as a separate package.  So it won't be on any CD-ROM's (it isn't on the  
Release 2.2 CD-ROM, never mind the Release 3.0 one).

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Phone tones as NeXT sound files.
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:54:40 GMT

In article <Bt753D.5n3@sounds.wa.com> brianw@sounds.wa.com
	(Brian Willoughby) writes:
>The last four came from a Radio Shack book, but I can't tell you how to use
>them (except NOT to use them).  They are the famous "Blue-Box" tones generated
>by another one of Steve Wozniak's electronic inventions (or so urban legend has
>it).

The fourth column of DTMF bears *no* relationship to the infamous
"blue box" tones.  You're thinking of the (completely different)
"MF" tones used by the defunct Signaling System No. 5.

>      I guess Steve Jobs has finally outdone The Woz's Blue-box with his
>Black-box :-)

But about a decade too late.

It's too bad NeXT is dropping the Music Kit from 3.0.
It's useful for a lot more than Christmas Carols.

					-=EPS=-
-- 
Can I use the 56001 in my NeXT to make a software RADAR DETECTOR?  :-)