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From: York.York@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (York York)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Evolution
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:37:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/11.0 - The College, Coos Bay OR

Are you for real? one micro sec. look around you would tell anyone that evolution is in full force.  Things are in constant change on every  square inch of this planet and any other body we can see and those we can't see.  To think that one being of any immensity could create what we on this planet can comprehend , is totally absurd. Unfortunately when the hoax of religion was conceived,it probably profited many people,and thus in effect begat the follower.  We still see it in our societies today.  In some
 countys it yeilds an unhealthy amount of power over millions of others that it is meant to protect. Believing in the almighty has taken many more lives than it has protected. I will say this however,if there is such a creationist.he has gone far (or she)(it) beyond whatever capabilities  he might of possesed. I have met some people that were so backwards as to try to convince me that the ancient remains our scientists have found were simply lies.  Evolution is a fact my friend. It surrounds you partner. 



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Science curriculum
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 09:08:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

If you find good science curricula please send me mail also as I am 
interested in good materials and curriculla...
 
ok?
 
thanks
 
david rahfeldt



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From: Joshua.Kramer@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Joshua Kramer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: logging
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 14:49:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

SR>Joshua Kramer-
SR>  I just recieved the letter you wrote back to me about logging.
SR>You stated that if logging continues at its

Well... I guess I didn't do any research on the subject and ASSumed
about it... sorry!

--Josh


 * SLMR 2.1a * And god said 'E = MC^2' and there was light!



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From: Casey.Puyleart@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Casey Puyleart)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Ballistics
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 12:42:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

     Hello, I am Casey Puyleart, a Junior at Bonners Ferry High
School.  I have previously sent messages concerning hydrogen cars,
and cryogenics.  I enjoy using the K12 system, and find it
interesting to read replies to the messages I send, and I learn
something new every time that I log on.
     The topic of this message is ballistics, such as those used in
police departments to trace weapons used in various crimes.  I
would like to know the steps and the processes used in ballistics
tracing.  What types of tests do they use?  Do they test the
chemicals in the bullet, and shell (if found), to trace the weapon
to certain manufacturers?  I have heard that they use the pattern
of scratches and disfigurations on both the bullet and the shell to
trace it to a certain weapon, but that the weapon must be found in
order to compare the bullet found at the scene to a bullet fired
from the suspected weapon.  Is this true?  Also, does the testing
of a suspect's hand to indicate if they have held, or fired, a gun
recently classify under ballistics, or is this an entirely
different field of investigation.
     If anyone has any information on the procedures involved in
ballistics tracing, or knows the answers tomy questions, please
reply.  Thanks. 


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From: Rebekah.Venable@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Rebekah Venable)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Abortion
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 11:13:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

DR>How do you like Taiwan?
        I love Taiwan.  There are always things that bother me in day to day life, because of the cultural differences or the language barrier, but the Chinese people are generally very nice and I love living here.

DR>What do you do in Taiwan? Are you Chinese or Other Cultural Group and
DR>are you Taiwanese or other Nationality?
        I am a Junior in high school.  My dad is a signaling engineer for the subway system that they are putting in here.  I am a white American from Rochester, New York.

DR>Do you think most young women in Taiwan agree with your views?
        I would not be able to say, because I do not have much personal contact with many Chinese women.  Most of the Chinese people that I do have contact with go to my school and have been influenced by American culture.

DR>How readily are abortions available to young women or woemn in general
DR>in Taiwan?
        If women are married, they can get an abortion with their husband's consent, if they are not married they have to have their boyfriend's consent.  Even though that is the law, I think abortions are readily available to women even without the man's consent.  Many laws in Taiwan are not paid attention to and are not enforced.

DR>What is situation like now in Taiwan in geeneral with regard to womens
DR>rights and equality in the society and workplace?
        Many women work here.  Chinese have a very strong work ethic and most of the time everyone who is able to work does, usually in family businesses.

DR>How much do women from Taiwan travel and learn about new cultures?
        It depends on how rich they are.  Some of them have been all over the world and seen more of America than most Americans.

DR>How prejudiced is Taiwan culture on hbasis of education or race etc?
        Chinese people think that education is very important and they might think badly of a person who is not educated.  Most "city" people (that came from the mainland) are prejudiced against the mountain people (natives).  Chinese people are very prejudiced against black people.  My mom says that they think that all black people are criminals and that they get that from watching American movies.

        Hope I could be helpful.
                                Rebekah

 * DeLuxe2 1.25 #12575 * Wealth is not what you get, but what you give!



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Students on K12net
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 09:19:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Interesting approach to teaching...
 
I am physicist and engineer (Ph.D physics MS math) and computer guru.... 
normally work as senior consultant manager for advanced development 
and technology transfer projects....
 
I hope that you can evolve a good working program using CBT (computer 
based training) for your students.
 
How much of  the time do they still spend in classroom lectures?
 
How much of their time is spend in field trips?
 
Do they actually build working systems in engineering and science?
 
Do you have them fly real airplanes having run the models on simulators 
in the classrooom?
 
Do you have them build real ceramic castings having modelled the thremal 
stresses in the computer?
 
I think your ideas are good but suggest MORE use of the comptuer for 
modelling and model development and less for just multi-media garbage... 
which makes people FEEL they have learned about computers but really 
all they have learned is familiarity and comfort with general idea 
and a set of specific programs...they is a start...but MORE useful 
to get them programming and making REAL use of MATH and ENGINEERING 
and etc... like real aerospace or financial firms do...
 
Glad tohelp if you like
 
 
David Rahfeldt
 



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From: tjohnso2@norfolk.vak12ed.edu (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Help me with trivia question
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Norfolk)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 00:59:28 GMT

Hi, again.  It's me... with another (life) science trivia
question.... actually 2 questions.  I never received help on
the first one.

#1.  What is the JANDRESSEK MANEUVER???

#2.  What is the name of the indention of skin below the nose
and right above your upper lip???

Would appreciate any help.  If you have any trivia questions &
answers you would like to exchange with me, please feel free to
pass them along.  I have many which I have collected over the
years for my 3rd nine weeks TRIVIA take-home project.

Thanks again for your help.
Tom Johnson   (tjohnso2)
From: Tyler.Coffey@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Tyler Coffey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: bears
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 10:07:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

 
hey! A greeting from Bonners Ferry, Idaho.  Bonners Ferry is a town
in northern Idaho of about 4000. I'm a junior in high school here.
My dad is a logger.  Most of the community here is supported by
timber dollars. Living in Northern Idaho for all of my life, it has
been a common sight to see such wildlife as deer, elk, moose, and
bear. Bears have usually not been a problem, however in recent
years, the problem bears from the National parks such as
Yellowstone, and Yosemite, have been tranquilized and transported
up to the Selkirks, which is the area where we live. As I said
bears have not been a problem but when you take bears who are used
to people and transport them, it makes for trouble. To complicate
things, the most common bear transported is the grizzly bear, and
laws protect them so heavily that some people won't shoot them even
if there lives may be in danger for the fear of the strict laws.
Northern Idaho is on the expansion pretty heavily.  We get alot of
granola eating hippies who come from California as well as other
places to be one with themselves and live off the land. Most of
these people don't know how to act around the wildlife and get
themselves in trouble.  Now I'm no expert on this subject, and I'm
curious to hear other peoples replies so please do so. 


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From: Joshua.Kramer@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Joshua Kramer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: EVOLUTION
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:46:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

JS>   Adam and Eve came from the one, original God. He created them.

Interesting... you actually believe that?

Most people in my school do not... and I go to a Catholic high school.

--Josh


 * SLMR 2.1a * Black Holes were created when God divided by zero...



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Environment
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:24:45 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Suggest you work with county to create overlays of ALL industry against 
the drainage systems and natural water tables and then test combinations 
of water and air (using LIDAR) in vicinity of each facility to monitor 
environment. Many agancies have tools and labs available but lack 
sufficient field staff to do reasonable job of monitoring environment, 
they hardly have time to track the major and obvious offendors..and 
yet MUCH of the damage and polution comes from individuals and small 
businesses, not just from large industry... good monitoring could 
find these individuals with cluster analysis and discriminant analysis...
 
If precedents fo citizens volunteering to monitor could be set... 
then we soon might have enouhg data to make meaninginful conclusions...
 
David Rahfeldt



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Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
From: mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker)
Subject: Re: doing homework in sch
Organization: Iowa State University of Censorship and Repression
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:13:45 GMT

In article <33819.2B407D8E@puddle.fidonet.org> David.Hoffmann@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (David Hoffmann) writes:
>works wonderfully as erasers.  We do problems as a class, the students
>get instant feedback from me, and have time to discuss problems with
>classmates.  I get instant feedback from students and can repair or
>encourage whatever needs to be repaired or encouraged.  It is a fusion
>of homework in the classroom and active teaching.  I love it, the kids

This sounds awesome.  I congratulate you on figuring out such a good
method.

This is NOT what I mean by "doing homework in school."  In all my
years of schooling, homework in school meant:

	* The teacher sits at his/her desk and the students sit
	at their desks and work silently.  --> No teaching. 

I just said "screw this crap" and proceeded to take a 10-20 minute nap
each hour of the school day, and then stayed up late working on
homework. ( Why late?  I had lots of extra-cirr and I preferred to
read TIME or the newspaper than do homework right away. ;) )

MArk D. Smucker     --------     mds@iastate.edu
From: ca831@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven John Peterson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: History of Math Grad Program Sought
Date: 23 Dec 1992 16:42:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


To begin, let me apologise for posting this on a board where
it obviously does not belong.

I have a friend who is currently attending Worcester Polytech
Institute, and he is interested in finding a graduate program
that centers on the history of mathematics. 

According to Donnie, my friend, he wants to be able to attend
a program that covers the _entire_ history of mathematics 
(something that overarches all of mathematics and not, say,
from Calculus and up).  He is interested in the theories and the
development of mathematics through time (and God knows, I've
heard him state time and time again that, to him, Math is an
art and not a science).  He is interested in the theoretical as
opposed to the practical.

At any rate, if anyone knows of a graduate program that specializes
in the history of mathematics, please e-mail the name of the school.

Once again, I apologise for posting this on the wrong board.

Steven Peterson
ca831@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: Math prob...
Date: 29 Dec 1992 00:08:04 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: world
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In article <33017.2B3AC0F2@puddle.fidonet.org>, Lloyd.Johnston@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Lloyd Johnston) writes:
|> EG> Here is a problem I don't really understand how the result is
|> EG> reached.
|> EG> Prob.   sqrt(y) + sqrt(y+5) = 5
|> EG> Ans.  y=4
|> EG> I see that if you just pop in 4  you get 2+3=5.

The solution to an equation is the set of values that y can be substituted
with to make the STATEMENT sqrt(y) + sqrt(y+5) = 5 TRUE.


|> however I thought
|> EG> that sqrt(y+5) was the same as sqrt(y) + sqrt(5) giving y=10

SUPPOSE that sqrt(y+5) = sqrt(y) + sqrt(5). Then we can claim
sqrt(1 + 5) = sqrt 1 + sqrt 5 = 1 + sqrt 5 = sqrt 6. But we KNOW that
sqrt 6 is NOT 1 + sqrt 5. So we have found that sqrt(y+5) is NOT equal
to sqrt(y) + sqrt(5), at least, not in GENERAL. 

But you can see that sqrt(y+5) = sqrt(y) + sqrt(5) is an EQUATION.
What is the solution to the equation?

Is the solution the set of nonnegative real numbers?

Note: sqrt(5y) = sqrt 5 x sqrt y for all nonnegative y.

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Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca

"The Log Song", from Ren & Stimpy
 
   "What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
    Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
    What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
    It's Log, Log, Log!
 
    It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
    It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good!
    Everyone wants a log! You're gonna love it, Log!
    Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!"


"Math is tough!"

      -- Barbie
From: Archie.Parrish@f2.n297.z1.fidonet.org (Archie Parrish)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Math cad
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 13:31:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:297/2 - Black Knight PCBoar, Farmington MO

I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT SOME IDEAS WHERE OTHER EDUCATORS ARE USING MATH CAD IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHICH CLASSES YOU HAVE USED IT IN AND WHAT KIND OF SUCCESS YOU HAD WITH IT.



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From: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: Testing
Date: 31 Dec 1992 23:03:46 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: world
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In article <C03o1z.CHG@eis.calstate.edu>, pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane) writes:
|> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
|> > Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper) writes:
|> > >Hi, All.  I'm here to ask advice from experienced teachers concerning 
|> > >the state testing which we will be giving in May.  Our school system 
|> > 
|> > I say, teach the test.  It's the *only* honest solution to this dilemma.

I never even had to see province-wide tests. What are they like? I'm sure
they cover only a small part of the math learned in a class. The test material
can be taught, but the broad picture of mathematics should be taught too.
Test or no test, the math taught in public school is pitiful.

|> > What you do is, you tell the kids, "Look, kids, a bunch of idiot politicians
|> > who don't know mathematics from a hole in the ground and couldn't care less
|> > about you or your education have decided to impose these tests, and on the

Can you give some sample test questions? I'd like to know what's going on.
Don't teachers have a say? Or do they just let politicians boss them around?

Personally, I wouldn't like it if my teacher had to teach precisely the
material dictated by politicians. There appears to be a student-teacher
relation breakdown. The course of action is set even before the class
starts. I may as well take the tests as soon as possible and get out of
the class.

|> In general, I agree.  I've done extensive study upon my own guinea... I
|> mean, students....over several years, and I've found that in any testing
|> situation, the form of the questions affects the final scores just as much
|> as the questions themselves.  The younger the student, the more true this is.

Are they trick questions?

-- 

Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca

  What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
  Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
  What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
  It's Log, Log, Log!      -- "The Log Song", from Ren & Stimpy

  Math is tough!           -- Barbie
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math,k12.ed.science
From: Lloyd.Johnston@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Lloyd Johnston)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: HOMEWORK
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 12:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton AB

CH> The problem is that these kids seem to be so involved in their social
CH> beings, that homework is definately no priority and only a nuisance to
CH> be gotten out of the way ASAP.  Does your district have a policy as to
CH> the weight of homework in the overall grade of the student? 

I will but in here.

At my high school in Stony Plain (30 mins west of Edmonton, Alberta) homework
for the most part is "optional".  In most classes the teacher will give a
lesson or two.  Homework is assigned.  The students can either do it or not.
The next day, students ask questions about any problems they had.  If they 
didn't do the homework they won't know where they have problems.  Then at the
end of the units a test is given.  The tests are worth 100% of the units,
homework is not graded.  

The good students will do their homework whetner or not it is graded.  If 
their are 10 similar questions and they got the idea on question 4 they will
not waste their time doing the other six.  In my AP 30 class however we 
usually have to do everything and still ask the teacher because it is 
deceptively difficult.

This method puts a good deal of trust in the students, but really it makes
no difference.  Most students who never do their homework will probably
not do it even under punishment of death . . . <<big grin>>



... Homework?  Yea I vacuum the floors...

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From: Demitri.Douzenis@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Demitri Douzenis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: RETURN                   
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:39:33 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

huh?

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Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Happy Holidays
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:25:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/223 - SchoolHouse BBS, Lanesboro MA

        *                      Happy Holidays
       * *
      *   *                    to everyone in
     *     *
    *       *                      K12Net
   *         *
  *-----------*         from the Council of Coordinators

           Gordon Benedict  Jack Crawford   John Feltham   Janet Murray
                 Rob Reilly    Gleason Sackmann  Mort Sternheim
              Helen Sternheim     Andy Vanduyne     Louis Van Geel




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Subject: tranformation of formulae
From: jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 12:42:35 PST
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C.

Hello, out there all you math experts.  I have a problem that
perhaps someone could suggest a book or hopefully a little 
share ware program that would help me.
I am a professional mariner by trade and as such , part of what
I do is go to Nautical School to upgrade my Certification.
I am currently attending a course in Victoria B.C.
I have only grade 9 math(20 years ago), A lot of the stuff we deal
with is 1st year Univ level math,, I am able to get by with most of
it and teach myself.  However my consistent stumbling block is 
the Algerbraic transformation of forumlae.  Taking the unknowns from
, well basically isolating the unknown factors , once that is done, I have 
no particular problem (using a calculator(HP-41) to solve.  I do not have
the time to take a complete math course or Algerbra course, Any suggestions
as to a GOOD book or hopefully a little shareware teaching aid that
would address my problem??? thanx and cheers

           jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (John Cross)
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