HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Pause before you consider OS/2 (was Re: Win 3.1 not THAT great.)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:13:21 GMT

cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman) writes:

>But, hypothetically speaking, what if two Windows apps running in different
>OS/2 windows tried to access and update the same file (e.g. win.ini) at the
>same time.  If both apps were running under just Windows, the app would
>probably not give up control until after the file update was completed.
>Under OS/2, control may be wrested from the app before completion of the
>update and the other app may be given control.

Even though the second app gains control of the processor, the first
app still "owns" the file.  When the second app tries to write to the
file, OS/2 traps it and you're given a bunch of options (try again,
ignore, abort the write, etc.).  Usually, I click abort and try again
after I figure out which app has the file open (to make sure I'm not
overwriting something I want to keep).  This works for OS/2, Windows,
and DOS apps.

Whether the first app opens a file with exclusive access or read-write
access is (I think) dependent on the programming.  I've had some apps
open up files and not allow any sharing, and some apps open up files
and allow other apps read-only access.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,ucs.system
From: Iskandar Taib <ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: REALLY weird problem with WinQVT/Net
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:24:54 -0500


Here is something that may pique your interest...


I have here a Zenith 486/25E box with TIGA (ooh ahh) that I'm running
WinQVT/Net 2.5 on. What happens is this:

After an evening of happily typing along in WinQVT/Net I get out of 
Windows. Oops, forgot to check out (of our automatic timesheet system) 
so I restart Windows and try to open a session on WinQVT/Net. "Local
Host or Gateway Not Responding." ARGH! So I open up Clarkson's Telnet
and it works OK. I come back next morning and try to start up WinQVT/
Net again. No luck. I try several things (but didn't get to installing
an older version) including re-installation, different fonts, diffe-
rent PKTINT, different packet driver vectors. Nothing works. Finally 
on a whim I change IP numbers. BAM! Works right off! Kill off the ses-
sions, bring up QVT/Net again. No problem. Kill Windows. (Insert cold,
warm boot, nothing). Restart Windows. WinQVT/Net chokes again. Change 
IP number. Restart WinQVT/Net. Works like clockwork.

Its very repeatable. Once you exit Windows it takes an IP number change 
to get WinQVT/Net to accept sessions again. Strangeness.

The machine sitting next to it has no problems whatsoever. The only 
difference is the ethernet card. The flaky machine has an old  3C501
card and the other one has a WD8003E. So its either the card, or some
weird card-router interaction.

Any wild guesses out there?

(For those reading ucs.system: its the consultant's machine at 309
N. Woodlawn). 
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From: jzarin@jade.tufts.edu (Jason Zarin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Trident BBS?
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:13:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Apr11.214900.11646@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> hzh@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

   Does anybody here uses the Trident BBS?  I tried to call the BBS for
   the past 3 days hoping to find a new driver for windows 3.1.  I can't
   even get on to the BBS!  Either I get busy signals or the BBS does not
   respond to my returns after I am connected.  Any clue?  Also
   Does anybody has the new drivers for the Trident 8900 800X600 256 color
   driver?  Can he please put it at a ftp site?
	   Any help will be greatly appreciated.
							   Marshall Lia
					   internet:HZH@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

They're at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS directory.

Hope this helps.
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From: arakins@iastate.edu (Andrew R Akins)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: : -)
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:34:12 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1992Apr14.011609.4031@ncsu.edu> linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville) writes:
>In article <3610@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> merrill@cs.arizona.edu (Darren Merrill) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr13.182127.2035@news.iastate.edu> arakins@iastate.edu (Andrew R Akins) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr13.170655.8546@wam.umd.edu> pr@wam.umd.edu (Jesus M. Rodriguez) writes:
>>>>	WINDOWS SUCKS!!!   Irritating isn't it!! Also Win 3.1 sucks too. :-)
>>[stuff deleted to shorten post]
>>>unproductive and useless. I have no problems with OS/2 users DISCUSSING
>>>or EXPLANING why OS/2 is superior to Windows. I am not familiar with
>>>OS/2, being a loyal Win 3.x user, but I am interested. And if OS/2
>>[more stuff deleted]
>>
>>YO!! Who ever said this was an OS/2 user?  Just because the guy said
>>he hates windows *automatically* labels him as an OS/2 bigot?!?  Come
>>on now.  This is all getting out of hand.  
>
>I second that!  I know that I hated Windows long before I discovered OS/2.  I
>was even saving my money to run a Unix with X-Windows and VP/IX!
>
>John W. Linville
>

  Okay. I appologize for my blanket statement.

  The only reason I (mistakenly) associated the initial post with OS/2
is because of the HUGE numbers of OS/2 users that have been posting on
this board, explaining how OS/2 is so much better than Windows. In my
opinion, a lot of these posts, like the one I responded to, are pointless
drivel that serve no purpose. They contain no facts, just attacks.
  However, I appreciate the creative comments about OS/2's superiority
over Windows. Such comments help me gather the FACTS about OS/2, since I
admittedly know very little about OS/2

  However, it was wrong of me to make that assumption. No malice was intended,
except to those (OS/2, Windows, and other users) who have lowered themselves
to mudslinging.

  Once again I apologize, and I thank all of you who have e-mailed me
information about OS/2.

-- Andrew Akins
   Iowa State University
   arakins@iastate.edu
From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Great Canadian Price for Windows (& OS/2)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:34:11 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada

I found a great way to get Windows 3.1 cheap.  Apparently if you buy
Windows 3.0 now, you get a FREE upgrade to Windows 3.1 (I just
confirmed this with Microsoft Canada - you have to send in the proof of
purchase showing the date, along with the title page of the manual).
I don't know how recently you must have purchased 3.0 - my guess would
be Apr 6, when 3.1 was officially released, but I didn't ask.

For those in the Toronto area, a company called Mirage Systems
Corporation is selling Windows 3.0 for $45 Cdn (plus tax) at the
Computer Fest show at the Metro East Trade Centre (Brock Rd just north
of the 401 in Pickering) April 10-12.  The booth has no sign on it, but
it is located in the second last row of the show, to the right of the big
stage.

After buying my copy of Win 3.0 for $45, I walked two aisles up to the
IBM booth and bought my copy of OS/2 2.0 for $79 ($80 less than the price
to upgrade from DOS).

So for $124 Cdn plus tax, I got Windows 3.1, OS/2 2.0 and five extra
diskettes (with Win 3.0 on them).  Now if I can just figure out how to
get Desqview/X for $75 ... :-)
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From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Driver bug
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:49:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Apr14.014529.16461@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) writes:
>
>
>
>I have found a bug, however. 
Also one in my built in proofreader, AKA brain:

>If one uses the distributed 800x600x16 color
>super vga driver and goes to a higher mode of one's Super Vga card
>(OK, of **my** ORchid Pro II) in full screen mode, the screen is   correctly
                                                                  ^^
                                                                  in
>restored when returning to a Window.
>
>Doug McDonald
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: Number of OS/2 2.0 orders (was Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:04:47 GMT


In a previous article, mmshah@im.lcs.mit.edu (Milan Shah) says:

>
>>OS/2 hasn't been released for 14 days and there are
>>already 2,000,000 orders for the program (mostly Windows 3.0 owners BTW).
>>IBM currently has only one problem, where to get diskettes :-) (actually
>>this problem really exists BTW).
>
>Not to offend anyone, but I bet that number is skewed. Simple Math. IBM 
>has been taking orders through their 800 number (I believe that's the only
>place you can order it as of now) for about 10 days. That boils down to
>about 200,000 orders / day. Assuming 10 hr days, that's 333 orders/min.
>Assuming an order takes about 10 minutes to take, it would imply IBM has
>about 3,000 people taking orders.

Not all orders go through the 1-800 number.  

I can't imagine someone from Sears calling 1-800-3IBMOS2 and saying:
"I'd like to buy 20,000 copies of os/2 2.0, can I put this on my VISA card?"

:-)
-- 
"We have developed Windows applications, but we didn't inhale."
          -Philippe Kahn, Borland International
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From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: Boo Hiss MicroSoft
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 00:21:10 GMT


In a previous article, daveb@merlin.wpd.sgi.com (Dave Babcock) says:

>Well my copy of Windows 3.1 didn't arrive on Monday by 10am as promised.
>
>I called Microsoft (to get the Air Bill) and then Federal Express.  FedEx
>told me it was shipped "ECONOMY" and in no way would it have gotten to me
>by Monday 10am.  It will be delivered by Wednesday 4:30pm.
>
>    Will I switch to OS/2?  No way, I'm a commited Windows developer/user.
>
>    Will two days make much difference?  No.
>
>    Would I have bought it at Egghead had I known the true delivery date?
>    Possibly.
>
>I know that my $8.50 shipping doesn't cover the full shipping cost and that
>the upgrade order form only promised 4 - 6 weeks delivery.  But when I placed
>the order I was told it was "guaranteed to be delivered by 10am Monday 4/6".
>
>My gripe is that MicroSoft made a big deal and got a lot of free press on
>the "All pre-ordered upgrades will arrive by 10am Monday" announcement.
>
>It was a lie.
>
>They didn't ship the upgrades (or at least mine and several other people I
>know of) such that they could arrive as promised.  MicroSoft should get as
>much press coverage over this "Marketing Scam" as they did over the original
>announcement.
>
>When IBM promises to deliver OS/2 by a certain date I know not to believe it.
>When MicroSoft promises something I used to believe them.  I thought they had
>more class.

At least IBM does not charge me for the upgrade to 2.0,
for the product or the shipping.
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From: Ayman Kayssi
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Getting stuff from wuarchive.wustl.edu
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:33:36 GMT
Reply-To: ayman@eecs.umich.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: ACAL, EECS, Univ. of Michigan, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Apr16.130234.988@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> Iskandar Taib <ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>Unfortunately you have to be root to run mount.  8-(

	Not if you're using ULTRIX. 
	Get yourslef an account on a DECstation :)

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From: ar559@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jan Buitenhuis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Demo of 3D Graphics DLL for Windows oploaded.
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:58:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr10.175806.20437
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)



Hello,

Responding to several questions regarding 3D Graphics DLLs for
Windows.

I have oploaded a demo of 3D RenderLib for Windows at 
garbo.uwasa.fi (129.79.20.22) available through anonymous ftp. 
Its in /win3/demo/3drender.zip 

3D RenderLib for Windows is a 3D graphics Dynamic-Link Library. 
Some of its features are:

unlimited displays (windows),
unlimited viewports (display regions),
unlimited directional, point, and spot light sources,
wireframe, non-shading, flat-shading, gouraud-shading, 
and phong-shading.
parallel and perspective projection,
front and back clipping-planes,
hierarchical object oriented data storage,
etc, etc, etc, etc....


Gr. Jan
From: vanleejf@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU ("James F. Van Leeuwen")
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Problems With AmiPro v2.0 Equations...
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:28:00 GMT

Hello Netheads!

PreScript:  Before I start, in order to prevent flames, I do own a legal copy
of Ami Professional.  I come here for help because the manual was useless and I
hate technical support departments (except for WordPerfect).  I seem to get
solid advice here.


Okay, here's my problem:

I just started using the Equation Editor recently to print some simple things
out.  My problem is that certain characters and symbols in the EE don't print
(just the space where they should be) or incorrect symbols appear.  

I first tried to insert a -> (you know, a right arrow).  All that showed up was
the space where it was supposed to be.  I tried printing the document, to check
and see if possibly the screen symbol was just messed up, with no luck.  I've 
also tried switching printers (between Citizen GSX-140, PostScript, and 
HP-PCL/5) with no difference noticed.
                                                                       ~
I then tried to insert a set of parenthesis.  What I got was a pair of = (all
together on one line) instead of the parens.  I had to end up manually typing
the parens with the keyboard.

My next problem was similar to the first (with the right arrow), but instead I
was trying to get the "exclusive or" symbol (a '+' enclosed in a circle).  I
tried both the icon and the keyboard to insert it.  All, I got was the space
where it should have been.

The colors (under Equations, Preferences) are set to black for everything, so I
shouldn't have any problem with printing something in white.


Does anyone have any ideas?  I really don't want to have to call Lotus unless I
can't get any help here.  I'm using a 386SX/25, Trident SVGA 1MB, 4MB RAM, and 
v2.0 of Adobe Type Manager.



Thanks in advance!
Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: a804938@pan.mc.ti.com (Doug Christensen)
Subject: Re: TrueType Fonts not found
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:36:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.020852.29751@unlv.edu> grover@mighty-joe.isri.unlv.edu (Kevin Grover) writes:
>In article <rich.702848047@gotland>, rich@island.COM (Rich Fanning) writes:
>)
>) I just installed Win 3.1, and have a problem with TrueType fonts (Arial, etc.)
>) They appear to be installed correctly; they show up in the Control Panel Fonts
>) list.
>) 
>) If I open Paintbrush, it finds Arial, Times New Roman, etc.  But none
>) of my other apps can find them:  Windows Write and Word Perfect for Windows.
>) 
>) I could understand why WP Windows might not find them, but certainly
>) Windows Write should.  Why does Paintbrush find them and Windows Write not?
>) 
>) I'm going to try reinstalling the fonts and see what happens.  Anyone
>) else have this problem?


>Yes. However, I had ATM 1.15 installed, and I assume that I
>uninstalled in incorrectly -- didn't read the instructions first.
>Still haven't corrected it  --- I've spending so much time fighting
>upgrades in the last few weeks that I've gotten little work done.  If
>you figure it out, I'd be interested.  BTW I get no fonts in Word for
>Windows 2.0 either.  (I even tried it with the TT fonts disabled,
>still nothing)  I might just reinstall ATM and leave it -- it's worked
>beatifully so far.

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I had a similar experience with Truetype and Word For Windows 2.0 until I 
remebered a quirk of WFW 2.0. If you enter the "Printer Setup" menu and 
setup the printer after starting WFW, it will update a list of available 
fonts that it maintains. I wasted some time adding/deleting/adding support 
for Truetype before remembering that this also happened when I first 
installed ATM  1.15. This is annoying enough to be in the read.me files with
Windows 3.1 for WFW 2.0 users.

___________________________________________________________________________
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From: Robert_Salesas@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Salesas)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: MS/HP win Apple suit!
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:07:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11443
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Well, it finally happened.  A federal judge through most of Apple's case out
the door!  All of the look and feel aspects were dismissed, except the trashcan
issue.  MS stock jumped 8%.  Way to go MS!

Rob

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From: van_espen@mble.philips.be
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Install Windows 3.0: HELP!
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:53:55 GMT
Organization: MBLE , Brussels, Belgium

I've got some weird problem:

A few weeks ago, typing 'win' at the c:\> prompt brought me
back to c:\> immediately after the logo.
So I removed every windows stuff (backed it up) and tried to
install Windows 3.0 again. But, during the disk2, the system hangs
(I guess just before the graphical part).
No way to make the setup run again: I removed any TSR, any DEVICE,
nothing helped. WHAT IS IT? B.T.W., why did setup always put
something like DEVICE=EGA.SYS in my config.sys before (I've got a 386/25
and VGA)? Please, help me, it makes me mad.

                           Koert
From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Lawrence Chiu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 install warnings
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:41:19 GMT
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand

In article <31290001@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> bollard@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Lee M. Bollard) writes:
>I installed Windows 3.1 last night.  During installation I got two
>warning message screens:
>
> The following file conflicts with the version already on your system
>     File: OLESVR.DLL
> Description: (unknown)
> The new version of the file is a different file type from the
> currently installed verison.
>
>I got the same message later for the file OLECLI.DLL.
>
>The options were to either keep the old file or overwrite it.  I chose
>to overwrite the file in both cases.  Everything works so far.
>
>Does anyone know what these files are or why I got the warning messages?

As the name implies, these files are to support OLE (Object Linking and
Embedding, the DDE replacement). Various products came out with OLE support
before WIN 31 was out including AMIPRO 2.0. If you installed any of those
products, you would have had earlier versions of those DLL's copied to
your system directory. So overwriting with the production WIN31 versions
should be fine.


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From: thomasg@epx.hscs.umn.edu (Thomas Gasser)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows does not multitask (repost)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:06:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: epx.thomasg.490
Organization: Department of Neurosurgery, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr13.150739.10450@ncsu.edu> linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville) writes:

>In article <!6wj-!q.garyd@netcom.com> garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz) writes:
>>Windows ain't Multi-tasking, dudes and dudettes!

>>I work for a company that creates Windows software, and therefore
>>have no choice but to use Windows (I've ordered OS/2 for my home
>>machine, though).  Windows works GREAT if you want to switch between

>You should convince your company that OS/2 is the ultimate development platform
>for Windows, for the reasons you detailed in your excellent post!

>John W. Linville

Gary says it right in his post.  To make money TODAY you must be writing 
Windows programs and not OS/2.  If he was able to convince his bosses to 
stop Windows development Gary would be out looking for a new job.  Because 
of marketing, past mistakes in OS/2, and other IBM mistakes OS/2 2.0 is not 
the operating system/operating envirnment of choice.

If IBM has developed a GREAT operating system that does what they claim it 
does, ships it nearly bug free, markets it well and supports the problems 
that do crop up then they have a chance it make OS/2 work.  But only a 
chance.  The Unix crowd for years have claimed (sometimes rightly) that 
Unix is a much better operating system then DOS. Only time will tell which 
way things are going to shake out.  The winner my be someone we have not 
heard of yet.  This is a very young industry.

 
 
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(612) 624-4427
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University of MN      
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