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From: dd435157@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Dan Doner)
Subject: Re: MONEY + Linux
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:32:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


>This might seem to come out of the blue to people on this list, but
>many, many people won't touch Linux because they don't see it as
>"going anywhere" except into an endless chain of mixed expert and
>amateurish accretions that can't possibly be maintained properly.



Trust me (us?) - its going places.  If you dont want to try something
without a guarantee, then try a different planet, or a microsoft product.  
With MicroShaft, you get all kinds of promises, but we wont start with that, now 
will we :)

As an example of where its going:  I have been trying to build InterViews (and doc)
on a dec 5000 at work - with much frustration.  Old compiler, stuffy admin, etc.
While I could compile doc for linux, its been done long before I started trying -
so why should I?  I post a question to this group, and I get a flood of responses for
a few days (depending on question) and a trickle for two weeks.  Better support than
I've gotten with any commercial software.  Thanks everyone, and keep up the great work!

If people are waiting for some kind of assurances about Linux, about the only thing
that might be worth waiting for is some better documentation, which I've read
is under way.  The readmes aren't that bad though.  Give it a try!

Dan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bogstad@gauss.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
Subject: Re: PS, top, vs. linux-0.99
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:41:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.043806.11547@u.washington.edu> opium@hardy.u.washington.edu (Just dance and move your body) writes:
>It could just be me but after I booted the new Image Itried ps -U to update:
>
>Neltrix# ps -U
>  PID TT STAT  TIME COMMAND
>Neltrix# 
>
>It doesn't seem to work ;;  However free and who are okay. ...

	I had a similar problem.  I recompiled my ps sources, did a ps -U
with the new binary and it works fine now.  I guess some kernel structures
changed size or something.  I believe I got my ps sources from tsx-11 in the
sources/sbin directory.  (These were the sources I was using with 0.98 pl6.)

				Bill Bogstad
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: martin@pandora.demon.co.uk (Martin White)
Subject: Re: root login refused on some terminals, can't see kermit prompt.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:45:31 +0000

> Why is root login refused on some terminals?  I've encountered this in
> two places. first, I've added a couple extra getty calls in inittab so I can
> login to tty5 and tty6, but if I try to login as root, I get the message
>  "root login refused on this terminal."  Same thing happens if I try to login
> as root from an xterm.  What do I need to do to fix this?

You need to add the new tty to /etc/securetty

Martin

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall)
Subject: Re: How stable is extended filesystem?
X-Aka: Upholder
Reply-To: Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:53:39 GMT

wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>Steve.Harrington@f34.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Harrington) writes:
>>Actually the efs author has also mentioned that he will release
>>a program to convert to the new file system.  A backup and restore
>>won't be necessary.

>A backup is still very, very, very advisable.  Backing up before doing
>anything dramatic is always a good idea.  (What if the conversion
>program has a subtle bug that only manifests itself on your machine?)

I'd look at it as a chance to get rid of all my old binaries that use
old libraries and system calls.. =)

-- 
Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (ASCII mail)           THIS IS _NOT_ CCSO'S OPINION!!!
jar42733@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT mail)      If It were, It would've had a
wi.6580@n7kbt.rain.com (anon)                  more important name on it. =)
From: maven@mavenry.UUCP (Norman Hamer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SBPRO SCSI
X-CitNet-ID: 65496
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 12:54:09 GMT

 
 Oh yeah, please respond by mail to maven@mavenry.UUCP with a CC: to 
maven@eskimo.com ... if there's sufficient feedback, I'll summarize to the 
newsgroup. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: keyboard problems - v.99
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:27:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.022727.27072@cc.gatech.edu> ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch) writes:

>Summary: setup.s kbd controller/vga mode bug reported in 89.pl6 is still there

>the video mode. Does anybody know whether Johan Myreen's fix that was posted
>for v.89.pl6 will work for v.99?

This is strange, because the fix for the problem *is* in 0.99, only
coded a little differently.

Is anybody else having trouble with this?

On a related note: does anybody know what the following lines in
keyboard.c are good for? The same code (in assembler) is in
boot/setup.S, too. Is this some kind of standard practice?

         pt_regs = (struct pt_regs *) int_pt_regs;
         scancode=inb_p(0x60);
!        x=inb_p(0x61);
!        outb_p(x|0x80, 0x61);
!        outb_p(x&0x7f, 0x61);
         if (scancode == 0xe0)
                 set_kbd_flag(KG_E0);

The ins and outs toggle a bit in the keyboard controller's RAM. This
RAM location is not documented by IBM, or at least I haven't been able
to find it in the Technical References. The only documented i/o
addresses are 0x60 (data) and 0x64 (status), and the keyboard driver
should work perfectly without this bit fiddling. In fact, I even tried
removing them, with no ill effects.

(Yes, I know, the header in kernel/chr_drv/keyboard.c says I wrote
the driver myself :-) But actually I just translated the asm version
into C, and didn't dare to change anything.)

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tgao@cs.uiuc.edu (Tong Gao)
Subject: Help needed with HP500 printer
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:49:00 GMT

I think there was some discussion about this before. I have a hp500 printer,
and when I do cat file > /dev/lp1, the printer just print one line of text.
Could someone tell me how to make it print CR/LF? Also I copied the printcap
for HP500 sometime ago from this group, but I have no idea about how to use
it. Is there a lpr code somewhere out there I can use? Thanks in advance.

Tong
tgao@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: srheintze@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Wanted: help getting FAQ
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:03:49 MDT

Someone from another news group told me about the FAQ for Linux.  I've never
used ftp before but, armed with my "Zen and the Art of the Internet" I gave it
a try.  At the VMS prompt I typed

$ ftp kirk.bu.oz.au
 <at which point I logged in anonymously>
dir   <this did not work>
ls  <this did not work - permission denied or something like that>
cd /pub/OS/Linux   <this looked like it worked>
get faq    <it said it successful, but I was skeptical>
mget *faq*  <this would not work - permission denied or somethinglike that>
^Z <I exited ftp>

I look in my directory, but I could not see any file that looked like a faq.

Can someone help  me get a FAQ?

				Thanks,
					Sieg
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: WHERE is bootable rootdisk?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:41:03 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: Answer.

mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mister Wizard) writes:
>i looked for it on tsx-11 and couldn't find it.
>I have a 486 w/ only 2MB ram and I want to install Linux, but I'm
>not about to wait through the swapfest that SLS would put me through.

I know what you mean!  [Peter, can't you do it the bootable root way?]

Hong Jiu Lu's bootable rootdisks may be found as:

	tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/GCC/rootdisk/3rootdisk.Z	and
	tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/GCC/rootdisk/5rootdisk.Z

The first is for 3.5" floppy drives, the second for 5.25" drives.
You'll probably also want the .../GCC/rootdisk/README.rootdisk file too.

>I will soon have 6MB but would like to get familiar with Linux first.
>Also, does this installation contain emacs, lilo, elm, gcc, et. al.?
>Thanks a bunch.

The bootable rootdisk has lilo and enough of the basic utilities to let
you install it onto your hard drive (cp, vi, mount, ls, fdisk, compress,
more, tar [note that tar must be uncompressed before it's useable], etc.)

His "basedisk" collection contains lots of GNU utilities.

No emacs, no elm...  but GCC 2.2.27d and its libraries are on other disks.

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: rayshade.4.0. and gcc ....
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:56:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Hi ,

I am trying to compile rayshade.4.0. on SLS .98p5 Linux
with no luck.. First, I got rayshade406.tar.Z(with compiled libs)
from tsx-11 but couldn't manage to compile rayshade. Then, I got the
original source code form some other ftp site, managed to 
create libs, but can't link libs with .o files.
I guess it is something related with shared lib stuff. 
Here is the error;
....
...
..
make[2]: `../libray.a' is up to date.
make[1]: `libshade.a' is up to date.
gcc -O -o rayshade main.o raytrace.o version.o ../libshade/libshade.a
../libray/libray.a  
make[1]: *** [rayshade] Error 1
../libshade/libshade.a(viewing.o): Undefined symbol _tan referenced
from text segment
../libshade/libshade.a(viewing.o): Undefined symbol _tan referenced
from text segment
../libshade/libshade.a(shade.o): Undefined symbol _pow referenced
from text segment
...
... 
..
../libshade/libshade.a(lex.o): Undefined symbol _yylval referenced
from text segment
../libshade/libshade.a(lex.o): Undefined symbol _yylval referenced
from
....
...
..
../libray/libray.a(intersect.o): Undefined symbol _BoundsIntersect
referenced from text segment
../libray/libray.a(intersect.o): Undefined symbol _TransResolveAssoc
referenced from text segment
../libray/libray.a(intersect.o): Undefined symbol _RayTransform
referenced from text segment
...
...
..
(I didn't include all the error message, since, all the same kind)

Anybody has any idea what's going on..??
I really appreciate any help..

iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: nicholsw@cuug.ab.ca (Wendell Nichols 264-4655)
Subject: xspread spreadsheet for Xwindows
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group Association
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:30:24 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Keywords: 

My first posting, so if its screwed up... I plead ignorance.
This is a short diff to make the xspread-1.1 program compile
on linux.  I am not big into spreadsheets, but I tried a few things
with this one and it does the demo's, and can add 2+2, claims to be
better than lotus, but then how could it be worse (price/performance?).
You can get the source from export, but I got mine from a site mentioned
in the comp.xwindows.announce group a couple days ago.  sorry the
name is jotted down at work...
Have fun... Wendell Nichols  


diff -rc xspread/Imakefile xspread.linux/Imakefile
*** xspread/Imakefile	Tue Aug  4 20:26:48 1992
--- xspread.linux/Imakefile	Fri Dec 18 14:28:54 1992
***************
*** 3,9 ****
    CDEBUGFLAGS = -g
    EXTRA_DEFINES = -DSC_FONT=\"fixed\" -DSIGVOID
  #else
!   CDEBUGFLAGS = -g 
    EXTRA_DEFINES = -DSC_FONT=\"fixed\" -DBSD43 $(SIGVOID) 
  #endif
     
--- 3,9 ----
    CDEBUGFLAGS = -g
    EXTRA_DEFINES = -DSC_FONT=\"fixed\" -DSIGVOID
  #else
!   CDEBUGFLAGS = -O6 
    EXTRA_DEFINES = -DSC_FONT=\"fixed\" -DBSD43 $(SIGVOID) 
  #endif
     
diff -rc xspread/plot_XY.c xspread.linux/plot_XY.c
*** xspread/plot_XY.c	Tue Jul 28 19:26:38 1992
--- xspread.linux/plot_XY.c	Fri Dec 18 14:30:37 1992
***************
*** 683,689 ****
    points[5].y = 4; 
    XDrawLines(dpy, win, maingcreversed, points, 6, CoordModePrevious);
  }
! 
  /*
   * pow10 calculates the power function of base 10
   */
--- 683,689 ----
    points[5].y = 4; 
    XDrawLines(dpy, win, maingcreversed, points, 6, CoordModePrevious);
  }
! #ifndef linux
  /*
   * pow10 calculates the power function of base 10
   */
***************
*** 705,711 ****
     }
     return q;
  }
! 
  
  /*
   * rm_tail_zero removes heading white spaces, trailing white spaces, 
--- 705,711 ----
     }
     return q;
  }
! #endif
  
  /*
   * rm_tail_zero removes heading white spaces, trailing white spaces, 
diff -rc xspread/sc.c xspread.linux/sc.c
*** xspread/sc.c	Tue Aug  4 20:24:58 1992
--- xspread.linux/sc.c	Fri Dec 18 14:29:51 1992
***************
*** 1520,1526 ****
--- 1520,1528 ----
      (void) signal(SIGTERM, quit);
      (void) signal(SIGALRM, time_out);
      (void) signal(SIGFPE, quit);
+ #ifndef linux
      (void) signal(SIGBUS, quit);
+ #endif
  }
  

  #ifdef SIGVOID
  
Not clever enough to compose a signature worth the bandwidth...
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: c60c-2gf@web-2a.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Re: lpr with SLS
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:15:42 GMT

In article <tlhilde.724285932@roby.ecn.purdue.edu> tlhilde@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Troy Hildebrand) writes:

>I also have a printer on /dev/lp1 which fits the description above.  
>My princap follows.  I can do 'cat file > /dev/lp1 &' just fine...
>lpr puts a file  in the queue, but it never goes.  lpd is running,
>lpc cannot force the file to go to the printer.

>tlhilde@en.ecn.purdue.edu

I had this problem as well, and with a closer look at the lpr.README, I
realized what my problem was.  Being a Linux and sys. admin. newbie, I
misinterpreted the 'setgid' phrase to mean set the group id
to daemon.  You have to set the gid bit in lpr, lpc, and lpd by
typing chomd 2??? filename, where ??? are your permissions.  Also be sure
to get rid of any unneccessary commands in your printcap file.
You should be able to man printcap.

Hope this wasn't obvious, and helps you out a bit.

-David Simpson

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch)
Subject: rz / sz cute version?
Reply-To: ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:07:46 GMT

does anyone have a "cute" version of rz, that for example uses curses or
X to display decent download status messages, rather than the standard
one-line-per-packet messages?

Ammo Goettsch
From: alex@infolog.se (Alex Frausin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: stupid questions ??
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:25:23 GMT
Organization: Infologics AB Gothenburg.Sweden

I have a couple of questions (probably in the FAQ but i didn't find it)

	1) What is the latest version of the Xserver?

	I've been running Linux for a couple of weeks now an I got some
	of the sources on different sites ( gwm, xconq, ...) and I
	get trouble when compiling. (libX.xx.x.2 is missing)
	Ok, I think I dont have the latest Xlibs, so I get the latest SLS
	and put it on the machine and... same thing again.

	Am I wrong or are the Xlibs, on the SLS release old ???




	2) What is happening whith SLIP support ?

	At my job I run a Sun in a network, and I would just love to
	be able to sit at home and connect to my Sun as a part of the 
	net. I've read about UUCP and KA9Q but I don't think that's 
	gonna do the job for me (correct me if I'm wrong)



	Could someone please Email me the answers to this, and make
	me a very happy Linuxer?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams)
Subject: Re: LINUX, Unix, and opportunity for change
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:46:35 GMT
Organization: TH-Darmstadt

In article <1992Dec17.154505.8927@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech) writes:
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Extending the size of a partition?
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:10:22 GMT

My /usr filesystem is on /dev/hda4, and is a Minix filesystem. I'd
like to somehow non-destructively replace this with an extended
filesystem so I'll have the space... currently, about 100 megs of
my disk are sitting unused after /dev/hda4. 

I imagine this is impossible, but if there's any way to do this
without destroying the files, I'd like to try it. Otherwise, I'll
just have to tar up my entire /usr tree onto my DOS partition (which
I only use as my Linux backup!), kill the partition, replace it, and
then unpack the big tar file back onto the new /usr.

Any ideas? If I can't replace the filesystem non-destructively,
are there any caveats for backing up the whole thing with one
big tar file? Thanks for any help.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
  "Go on, emote! I was raised on thought balloons!"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jy10033@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Joshua M Yelon)
Subject: Re: [Q] How to change from Linux/minix file system to extfs ? [CONFIGS]
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:44:37 GMT

>> I have linux 0.98pl4, Xfree v1.1, gcc 2.2.2.7d installed on what is the
>> Linux/Minix file system. I have 
>>
>>  /dev/hda2  42 Mb Linux/Minix partition
>>  /dev/hda3   7 Mb Linux Swap disk
>>
>> [Q] How do I upgrade the complete system to the Linux extfs ?

To be honest, I don't think this is a good idea just yet.  It _would_
get you long filenames.  It would also reduce your performance - the
extfs is fairly slow.  I switched over to extfs, and then was sorry
I did - I switched back.  There is a new, faster extfs in the works,
and if I were you, I'd wait for that.

But, if you must switch, here's the trick I used:  Put a tarred, zipped
copy of your hard disk on the swap partition!  Zip is usually capable
of reducing by a factor of three, so there _is_ a chance, if your hard
disk isn't full.

Incidentally, this will take up a lot of disk space unless you pipe
the tarfile directly into zip, which is possible.  Indeed, you can pipe
the resulting zipfile directly into wc, to see whether the zipfile will
fit on the swap partition, before you do anything serious at all.

Of course, don't forget to put 'unzip' on your install disks!

- Josh
From: operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Questions about X: emacs, xdm...
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:20:20 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1gag2aINNmvf@tamsun.tamu.edu>, ail8070@tamuts.tamu.edu (Andy I. Liaw) writes:

>I have managed to get X running now.  I have a few questions (not problems):
>
>1. Once I started xdm, how do I get out of it?

Sometimes ctrl-alt-backspace will work.  When the console reappears, you have
type ctrl-c a few times quickly to keep xdm from restarting.  The only other
solution is what I do all the time:  turn off the PC and turn it back on! :)

>2. How do I get emacs to run in a window by itself (which is what it supposed
>to do)?  I tried emacs myfile & and it went into bg in the xterm I was in,
>instead of opening up another window.

You must run the X emacs binary.  It should have come with your emacs
distribution.  Try doing a x11emacs & from your xterm.  This should do what you
want.

>3. Which dot file is the one that specifies what xprog get executed when
>X starts?  How do I specify the position and size of these progs (e.g.
>xclock, xeyes, xlogo, etc)  Can anyone send me a sample?

If you are using xdm, it first looks for a .xsession in your home directory. 
If one does not exist, it uses the default Xsession in /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm (I
think).  If you use your own .xsession, MAKE SURE YOU START THE WINDOW MANAGER
THERE (i.e. twm &).

>Thanks a lot!  Merry Xmas and happy NY to you all!!

Same to you!

Jeff Little
operjsl@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwomack@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Joseph Womack - EECS)
Subject: Xfree1.1 & busmouse (second)
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 04:11:00 GMT

I would like to run X, accept one problem, the mouse (logictech bm)
only goes down and left.  Has anyone got any clues???

					Joe

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: card@masi.ibp.fr (Remy CARD)
Subject: Re: EXT fs
Organization: Laboratoire MASI - Universite Pierre et Marie Curie - Paris - France
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:31:40 GMT

In article <Bz4497.E8I@citrus.SAC.CA.US> qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Joel M. Baldwin ) writes:
>wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>: dd435157@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Dan Doner) writes:
>: >Why does the FAQ still call the ext fs beta?  Is it any more beta than the
>: >rest of linux?
>: 
>: The author of the extended filesystem calls it alpha (there was just
>: recently an announcement for version alpha 11).
>
>Is anyone using the efs having any problems with bad directorys appearing?
>I end up having to reboot every few days to run efsck just to clean up 
>the bad directorys that keep showing up.  
>
>I'm running 0.98pl4 with the efs 10.1 code and the latest C-news.
>I figure the cause of the bad dirs is either a bug still somewhere in the
>efs code, or somewhere in C-news.
>
>Am I the only one still having this problem?

	Well, I think that the problem with bad directories (a bug in the dirs
handling routines) has been corrected in 0.98pl6.  If you can, upgrade to a
newer version of the Linux kernel or get the file extfs.p6.Z which is available
by ftp on ftp-masi.ibp.fr and on tsx-11.mit.edu in the directory
/pub/linux/ALPHA/extfs.  Then, apply the patch to the kernel sources, rebuild
a kernel and boot from it.  Note that the latest release of efsck (from version
10.1) are able to correct bad directory entries.

>
>-- 
>
>Joel M. Baldwin
>System Administrator,  Citrus Grove Public Access
>N6NPL      H ( 916 ) 383-9470        W ( 916 ) 452-1481
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>qumqats@citrus.SAC.CA.US						/\../\
>


	Remy
--

	Remy Card
	card@masi.ibp.fr
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