HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: CREATION OF ALT.FAN.HOWARD-STERN.FARTMAN
Keywords: Carusso's at it again
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:34:53 GMT

In article <9L3wqB5w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dev/null writes:
>
>Here's another example of RDC's handiwork!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>rdc@netcom.com (MR. COMMUNIST) writes:
>
>> 
>> Newgroup: alt.fan.howard-stern.fartman
>> 
>> Newsgroup for the discussion of the upcoming Howard Stern Movie: "The
>> Adventures of Fartman."
>> 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I propose a new group: alt.rdc.in-front-of-a-flamethrower

Create it. NOW. The need is there.

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Random Hacker, Cornell Engineering and Theory Center 
  "People will say we're in love."  --Hannibal Lecter
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.politics.clinton
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Creating alt.politics.democrats groups
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:00:34 GMT


>Michael> == Michael Jenkinson <mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca> 
>
> Michael> And where are the equivalent republican groups? :)

alt.fan.dan-quayle

read it
know it
be it


Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.politics.clinton
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Creating alt.politics.democrats groups
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:46:20 GMT

In <1992Sep8.130034.24880@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:


>>Michael> == Michael Jenkinson <mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca> 
>>
>> Michael> And where are the equivalent republican groups? :)

>alt.fan.dan-quayle

>read it
>know it
>be it

I do.

But I want alt.republican.representatives.house.
           alt.republican.representatives.senate
           alt.republican.governors
           alt.republican.state.representative
           alt.republican.reagan.asleep.at.the.switch

You get the idea. I figure if we can have an overabundance of
ridiculous groups for the democratcs, we should have an equal number
for the republicans.

Then again, I'm Canadian, why do I care? :)

Michael
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:31:52 GMT
Organization: Danish Trainspotter Society

[I will not comment on the net.bozo stuff]

Isn't the name somewhat inaccurate? What if disney produce
another show to be shown in the afternoons? What if it's
shown in another timeslot in other parts of the world?
What if the show gets moved?
-- 
I have things to do and News to read
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.tv
From: skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Chesterton)
Subject: NEXP: alt.tv.northern-exp?!
Organization: Benedict
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:03:24 GMT


Hi All,

   Some may remember that I asked about the creation of an alt.tv.nexp
   group a couple of days ago.  Looks like someone else had the same
   notion ... voila, alt.tv.northern-exp appeared in the new groups list
   today.  Now, I hope this was done legitimately. *grin*  I have been
   keeping track of the replies to my original posting, and I am truly
   sorry about the users who don't get alt postings.  This is something
   to take up with your NEWS administrator!  Just for my sanity, could
   the kind soul who did post the "create" command drop me a line?

--- Ian ---
"Just another NEXP fan"
-- 
"Sir ... I protest!  I am not a merry man!"
					   - Worf, Q-Pid
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.tv.nick-at-nite
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:40:07 GMT

In article <HROSE.92Sep11161448@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>Roy> == Roy Barrett <dsdd@okcforum> 
>
> Roy>  A lot of people watch old Nite at Nite TV, and I think there is a
> Roy> great need for alt.tv.nick-at-nite... please send E-mail
> Roy> responses..
>
>IMHO this is a good idea. A good place to discuss all the Nick-at-Nite
>shows from Mary Tyler Moore to Donna Reed to Superman. 
>
If you want to discuss old tv shows, why limit it to those shown on one
particular network?  Should we have alt.tv.tnt, alt.tv.wtbs, etc.?

Why not alt.tv.classic?

Bill Marcum



Xref: sparky alt.config:5697 alt.war:1927 talk.politics.misc:44903 soc.history:8222
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.war,talk.politics.misc,soc.history
Subject: Proposal: alt.war.vietnam
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:32:28 MST
Followup-To: alt.config,alt.war,talk.politics.misc,soc.history
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Summary: Proposal for new newsgroup
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Is there an interest in creating a newsgroup for discussion of the
Vietnam War?

I am too young to remember that war, but I've read a lot of the primary
and secondary sources in the literature, and consider myself an amateur
Vietnam War buff.  I've also seen a lot of movie and TV renditions of the
war, and am interested in their correlation to reality.

Politically, of course, the Vietnam War was the defining moment for a
generation of Americans, and its effects are still being felt today (Desert
Storm, the U.S. Presidential election).  Militarily, I am interested in
discussing the pros and cons of the strategy/tactics of the war.

A good precedent has been set for a war-specific newsgroup by
alt.war.civil.usa, a group dedicated to the discussion of the U.S. Civil
War (1861-65).  My "specialty" is the Vietnam War, and I wonder if any
of you out there are interested in such a special-interest group as
alt.war.vietnam.

Followups to alt.config.  (Hope this message doesn't get drowned out in
the noise....)
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."
From: smsst8+@pitt.edu (Steven M Scholnick)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.music.marillion
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:04:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I'll add my Yes to the growing number.  Yes, a Marillion newsgroup would be
nice..  :-)
__________________________________________________________________________
|                             |                                          |
| Steve Scholnick             |  I don't believe in Destiny              |
| steves@vms.cis.pitt.edu     |  or the guiding hand of fate             |
| steves@theory.chem.pitt.edu |  I don't believe in the stars or planets |
|                             |  or angels watching from above           |
|                             |                      - N. Peart          |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Frank_Seymour@MTS.CC.WAYNE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL for group "alt.cesium"
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:50:26 GMT


 
I would like to see this group created.
 
FS
--
 
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: COUNTERPROPOSAL: alt.music.<insert favorite group here>
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:07:57 GMT


Why is everyone going so nuts trying to create a newsgroup for
every band that exists? I thought the whole purpose of
alt.music.progressive is specifically to talk about bands like
Marillion etc.

Personally, I think it's completely moronic to segregate all
these bands. I like to keep up on all facets of progressive
music, and that includes Marillion (unless we get another HiE from
them). I don't want to have to subscribe to 30 newsgroups.
My system won't even let me access the damn peter hamill newsgroup,
so that's already been cut out!

If anything, we need an alt.music.rennaisance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing)
Subject: alt.rachel.weenie
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Summary:  rachel sucks!
Keywords: weenie weenie weenie
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:35:06 GMT
X-Posted-From: minerva.cis.yale.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu



I call for the creation of alt.rachel.weenie, because she is pissing me off.
She butts her nose in everyone else's business and I'm sick and tired of it.
Rachel, get a life, rent a clue, and fuck a cat!

Martin

--
ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer)
Subject: Re: The internet must evolve or die ! (was Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon)
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 00:45:11 GMT

In article <cline.715884486@fig.cs.scarolina.edu> cline@cs.scarolina.edu (Ernest Cline) writes:
>Why can't groups have multiple names?...
>Please don't tell me it wouldn't work with current software. I know that!

Sounds an awful lot like newsgroup aliasing, which *is* available in
current software.  For example, as far as this site is concerned,
alt.motorcycles.harley and rec.motorcycles.harley are the same group.
(You have to go to r.m.h to read it, but you could grep for either one
in the active file.)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: alt.sci.planetary (was Re: newgroup alt.planetary.science)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:42:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.070214.14644@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>>>I think a better name would be:		alt.science.planetary
>>
>>Well, I'd look around in the alt.list that I have and I don't see any real 
>>attempt at heirarch-izing. ... since all the rest of the names seem
>>to be in a simple descriptive format (and the fact that it's alt to begin
>>with) does it really matter?
>
>Yes.
>
>Dots.are.not.for.separating.words.  Dots are for creating hierarchies, and
>if you're not planning to establish an alt.planetary.* hierarchy, I'm not
>going to waste inodes creating an alt.stupid.groupname.
>
>(I might add that there are already four existing groups in alt.sci.*,
>which seems the perfect place to put an alt.sci.planetary; there's no
>point in adding yet another hierarchy.)

Egads, I hadn't seen those on the list that  I looked at.  I will "re-send"
my create message for you.  It appears, however, that nobody is listening
*anyway*.


>Much of altnet is created manually, by news admins who think about what
>they're doing before they do it.  If you want your group propagated,
>you might try doing the same.
>
>--
>Ellen Keyne Seebacher            news@uchinews.uchicago.edu


-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: smith@canon.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:27:32 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>>> Why should our charter include things we don't want to talk about?
>>
>> Uh?  Is this some private group?  If you want it to be private, to meet
>> the needs of a specific group, use a mailing list.  If you want it to
>> be public (and Usenet/Altnet are public by definition) then you can't
>> just create things on a whim - there are other people to consider.
> 
> It's not a private group, but it addresees a specific interest, namely the
> shows that make up the Disney Afternoon and related topics such as the 
> competition and merchandise pertaining to these shows.

You aren't by any chance already on the existing "Disney Afternoon"
mailing list are you?  You know, the list that's apparently too much 
hassle to maintain, and is therefore being replaced by a "specific
interest" low-hassle worldwide newsgroup.

Just curious.

---- Mark Smith ---- Canon Research Europe ---- smith@canon.co.uk ----
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.planetary.science
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:19:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.111414.12848@aber.ac.uk> ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel) writes:
>In article <LB1iqB15w165w@mantis.co.uk>
>   mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) doodled:
>
>> knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>> > I see no good reason why alt.planetary.science wouldn't fit that bill just
>> > fine.
>> 
>> Why do you want an alt.planetary hierarchy?  What will the other groups in
>> the hierarchy be called?
>> 
>> alt.planetary.misc?  alt.planetary.colonization?  alt.planetary.formation?
>
>I think this group (if created) would fit a lot better in the alt.sci.*
>hierarchy, especially as there are already groups like :
>
>alt.sci.astro.aips
>alt.sci.physics.acoustics
>alt.sci.physics.new-theories
>
>..there already.
>
>- Chris
>-- 
> Christopher Samuel, c/o Computer Unit, UCW Aberystwyth, Aberystwyth, WALES
>  RFC: ccs@aber.ac.uk   UUCP: *!mcsun!uknet!aber!ccs   JNT: ccs@uk.ac.aber
>         Deddf Iaith Newydd am Cymru | New Language Act for Wales


The consensus seems to be something like alt.sci.planetary

Is this alright with everyone? How many people with an opnion on the name
will actually be participating in this group?


-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.privacy
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: CFD: alt.privacy.encryption
Organization: University of Missouri
Date:  6 Sep 92 22:39:54 GMT

The US govt has historically co-opted or squashed all attempts at
bringing effective encryption technology into the hands of ordinary citizens,
and with the new effort to establish a "snoop central" for the FBI in
the domestic phone network, this would seem to be an especially
opportune time for concerned citizens to enforce their right to privacy.
This newsgroup would probably be initially concerned with the "Pretty Good
Privacy" encryption program, but would encompass other similar programs
and related technologies.
What do you think?  Would there be too much overlap with sci.crypt?

Rich
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.comics
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:08:18 GMT
Organization:  I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!

In article <1992Sep8.210833.7268@bcrka451.bnr.ca> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>In article <EE3JMMC@taronga.com> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>>
>>Because that's what the particular group of people for which I'm creating
>>this newsgroup want to talk about.
>>
>>Why should our charter include things we don't want to talk about?
>
>Uh?  Is this some private group?  If you want it to be private, to meet
>the needs of a specific group, use a mailing list.  If you want it to
>be public (and Usenet/Altnet are public by definition) then you can't
>just create things on a whim - there are other people to consider.

*guffaw* Tell that to Roger Carrasso and the like that create at least one 
spurious newsgroup a day...it's their religion...:)

It's not a private group, but it addresees a specific interest, namely the
shows that make up the Disney Afternoon and related topics such as the 
competition and merchandise pertaining to these shows.

>Who?  Me, for example - I'll have to decide if I should create this
>group or not at my site.  Well, should I?  And as a news reader, who
>might be interested in this group, doesn't it matter how easily I can
>find it, and how clear it will be to me what the group is for?  Don't
>assume all users will know the charter for a group - most don't.

So they can pop in and ask, as people often do on the groups that I read. Just
because the Disney Afternoon is not something you may be familiar with, this
does not mean that nobody will know what it is or have any interest. What you 
do on your system is obviously your business, but creating a newsgroup or not
based on whether it is something you recognise/have an interest in seems a 
little silly to me.

>For the time being, I'm ignoring the newgroup message for this group,
>since as created it doesn't strike me as a useful addition to the net.

Suit yourself, I guess, but I find it laughable that you are applying the
criteria of "Is it useful?" to an alt group.

>Rheal Nadeau

   Tyger 
-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.motorcycles.harley
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: removal of alt.motorcycles.harley
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:59:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.195233.9990@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.171719.16831@midway.uchicago.edu>, elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) writes:
>| In article <71600408026771@c00313-11pa.eos.ncsu.edu> 
>|  bcasper@c00313-11pa.eos.ncsu.edu (Brian Casper) writes:
>| >r.m.harley hasn't been created yet on my local news server.  When did it start
>| >showing up around the rest of the net?
>| 
>| August 25th.  Perhaps your news admin has been on vacation;  why don't you
>| send her/him a nice note?
>
>  And as of right now we are up to message #12 on this system, eight of
>which are on what brand of beer real bikers drink. We get a 56kb NNTP
>feed from uunet, so I don't think we're missing anything.

Well, I would guess again!

I currently have 381 posts on r.m.h and you are #750 on a.m.h

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: NEW GROUP proposed for ALT - alt.sabaean - comments welcome
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:51:20 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:
> I would like to create alt.sabaean.  The group's purpose would be to discuss
> the various aspects of Sabaean philosophy and religion both as it relates to
> contemporary life and the heritage which brought us to this point.

Well, call me ignorant but I thought Sabean was an ocean near the
Mediterranean.  I suspect that alt.philosophy.sabaean or alt.religion.sabaean
would be better names.

mathew
-- 
"Even the most bizarre of the unions (probably that between a cat's gall
 stone and a single note 'G' from CNN's ident theme) managed to convey a
 sense of rampant impropriety."  -- 'Fortran Five', Simon G. Lawrence Leonard
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: alt.comics.lnh (bad name!)
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:25:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.230304.27638@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:

>Hmmm...  Now if we get alt.comics.lnh, or whatever,

If?

>then we'll essentially have
>three creative newsgroups---alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo, alt.pub.dragons-inn, and
>alt.comics.lnh,

Umm... grepped for "dragons-inn" in your newsgroups file lately?

alt.pub.dragons-inn	Fantasy virtual reality pub similar to alt.callahans.
                                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That makes four.  At least. :-)

>all in totally different hierarchies.  I don't suppose that we
>could convince everybody to switch over to an alt.creative hierarcy or
>something?

Even if that were possible, what for?  What connections exist between
these four groups (besides the incidental quality of encouraging
role playing of sorts) that would justify the effort of moving them
under the same hierarchy.

Alt.pub.dragons-inn was originally newgrouped without warning as
alt.dragons-inn, but was shortly thereafter re-newgrouped as
"alt.pub.dragons-inn" and the original group seems to have been either
deleted or aliased to the new one at most sites.  The idea was that
the next time someone came up with this idea, it could be placed under
the "alt.pub" hierarchy, which would be ostensibly be used for any
such electronic gathering-place.  If only the same had been done with
alt.comics.lnh, which seems more and more to have an astonishingly
poor name.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
From: strom@watson.ibm.com (Rob Strom)
Subject: Re: Children's Services
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:46:21 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Research

In article <pqhnr=c.lindae@netcom.com>, lindae@netcom.com writes:
|> 
|> From: Beverly.Burke@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Beverly Burke)

|> * In a message originally to Lindae, Bill Hall said:
|> 
|>  > As a parent who has gone through the the emotional turnmoil
|>  > of looseing a child to parental kidnapping (I finally found
|>  > him about 4 months ago), I am totally for people getting
|>  > envolved with agencies trying to find children but I am
|>  > totally against sicking agencies such as CPS and the IRS on
|>  > people when you do not have one bit of evidence ... but just
|>  > some gut feeling that may change tomorrow.  A bruise on a leg
|>  > today may have been the result of falling off of a new
|>  > bicycle yesterday.
|> 
|>         Bill, I am so happy for you, that your found your child again however,
|> I totally disagree with your statement about Childrens services, or whatever it
|> is called down there.....sure there are times when they make the wrong judgment
|> call, on both ends of the scale, not investigating throughly and taking a
|> child, when there is real evidence of abuse, and sometimes yes, they get
|> involved in situations where there is no abuse....however, place yourself in
|> their position...it would be very hard to make that judgment call, they are not
|> GODS, or whatever. I would prefer them making mistakes in cases where there is
|> no abuse, instead of them making them in cases where there is...and the child
|> is beaten to death....I have heard of this happeing alot more, and it sickens
|> me....
|> 

I can't agree.

I don't know what country you are posting from, but I am a strong
believer in US Constitutional protections.  We cannot allow
agencies of the government to violate civil liberties and
safeguards of persons accused of crimes.  It is never an
excuse to say that these safeguards are being trampled on 
in the name of a noble cause, such as fighting child abuse,
or treason, or drug trafficking, or whatever.  That is
the road to tyranny.  I agree that government agents are
not gods, and that is why government needs to be held in check.
 
-- 
Rob Strom, strom@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7641
IBM Research, 30 Saw Mill River Road, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY  10598
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids