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From: kassapidis@vxcrna.cern.ch (Kassapidis Panayotis, CERN)
Subject: Re: Information for VAX4000-200 Customers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:25:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.065516.187@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil>, nieland_t@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil writes...
>The attached is being posted on behalf of one of the DECUS US Chapter VMS 
>Systems SIG Digital Counterparts.  Contact your local Digital Office for more 
>information. 
> 
>-- 
>Ted Nieland				nieland_t@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil
>(513) 476-4639				nieland@ted.hcst.com
>Hassler Communications Systems Technology
> 
>                                                            August 1992
> 
> 
>Dear VAX 4000 Model 200 customer,
> 
> 
>You will recall that a letter was sent to you dated January 1992 explaining
>that Digital Equipment Corporation had discovered a problem with the floating
>point processor section of the CPU chip used in VAX 4000 Model 200 systems.
>This letter also explained that Digital would replace all VAX 4000 Model 200
>processor modules that had been shipped prior to December 1, 1991 to rectify
>the situation.
> 
>Please be advised that the VAX 4000 Model 200 CPU upgrade offer is only good
>until December 1, 1992. We advise that you contact your local Digital Services
>representative to have your VAX 4000 Model 200 processor modules purchased
>before December 1, 1991 replaced.
> 
>If you have already upgraded your system or have made arrangements to do so,
>please disregard this notice. Otherwise, you will have until December 1, 1992
>to take advantage of this upgrade offer.
> 
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>Donna Mundy Skillings
>Product Manager
>Entry VAX Systems Business

	My local DEC representative came and installed some FPU-checking
      program on our VAX 4000-200, that supposedly checks the floating
      point chip for the above mentioned problem. When I asked for an
      upgrade she said 'No need to, since FPU_TEST hasn't discovered any
      errors'.
	Am I right to believe that no matter what, I can get my CPU board
      (my VAX's CPU not my brain! :-)) upgraded, even if FPU_TEST hasn't
      so far discovered this problem?  Should I "demand" for the CPU
      upgrade???

	There is another problem with the VAX 4000 model 200 and VMS 5.4-2
      Some of the SYSLOAxxx.EXE files are buggy and the result is performance
      slowdown. The problem is fixed in VMS 5.4-3. I managed to get a free
      upgrade to it before the warranty period expired. VAX 4000-200 owners
      make a note of this problem and upgrade to a higher VMS version.

	  Thank you in advance for any help,
	  Panayotis Kassapidis

    e-mail:
	Internet:	kassapidis@vxcern.cern.ch
	HEPnet: 	VXCERN::KASSAPIDIS  (22718::KASSAPIDIS)
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Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:03:49 GMT

In article <hdtodd.2.714835604@wccnet.wcc.wesleyan.edu>, hdtodd@wccnet.wcc.wesleyan.edu (H. D. Todd) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.140249.3686@spcvxb.spc.edu> killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu 
> 	(Jeff Killeen) writes:
>>Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
...

I don't have the details at hand, so don't take it to literaly.

> 
> 	The nominal membership of DECUS/US is about 50K.  The real 
> membership is about 25-30K.  The audits we implemented (six years ago or so) 
> were never fully implemented to trim the mailing list as we had intended.  
> If a major goal is to save mailing costs and trees, DECUS could just 
> eliminate the mailing-list names of inactive members -- and tighten the 
> definition of "inactive".  (I'd now fall into that category, I think.)
> 
The .AU audit is done every few years. Members are posted an audit form to
complete and post back in a post paid envelope. This allows for change in SIGs
etc as well. No return, off the lists. Takes 2 min to do.

> 	Customers pay for services, and the fees include overhead for DECUS 
> operations.  So they pay for "membership" through purchases.  No purchases, 
> no membership (i.e., they get trimmed from the list after a couple of 
> years of inactivity).  Or, no newsletter/library contributions, they get 
> trimmed (i.e., they are neither contributing nor using DECUS resources, so 
> they are probably uninterested; reinstate upon request).
> 
different members will have differnt wants/needs, and this will result in
different 'visibility'.

...

> 	If the problem is wasted trees and money for mailings that don't 
> interest people, solve that problem.  If the problem is an uninformed 
> electorate, solve that problem.  I don't think DECUS needs membership fees 
> to solve either problem.  It does need a consistent and coherent strategy 
> for funding, for representation, and for effective management.  Membership 
> fees might be part of the solution for the first and last, but not for the 
> representation issue.
> 

We have added 'Corporate Membership' to .AU Decus. This gives the CM the Vax SIG
tapes and a few other things on one bill, hence easier to get through the bean
counters. No vote. they can send 5 nominees to symposia etc. About $1000 AU
per year.

~Paul
From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:25:32 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

In article <1992Aug25.090559.686@fps.mcw.edu>, brodie@fps.mcw.edu writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.120610.974@beckman.com>, dsroberts@beckman.com writes:
>[...] 
>> "full" gets things like DECUScope, can vote, etc. and pays the membership fee,
>                                      ^^^^^^^^
Please don't overreact to this, it's all discussion and working towards a
proposal.  Nothings decided.  But we need to get a feel from the membership on
this.  As a member, I actually have no problem with this portion of the
discussion.  In the ACM, isn't it true that only full members can vote?
> 
> Yes, if decus needs to save some money and trees {don't we all?}, then
> they could probably charge a nominal fee for some of the subscriptions
> (but does that mean we now pay for the decus newsletters AND decuscope/etc
> separately?   hummmm.)

I wanted to address this.  Please note:  THE DECUS NEWSLETTERS NO LONGER EXIST. 
The October issue will be THE LAST!  Everyone with a newsletter subscription
(and there are not very many) will get a DECUServe subscription in its place
(or can demand cash back).  Start a new topic if you want to discuss this :-)

This membership fee could turn out to be the difference between getting the 12
page registration pamphlet for Symposia or the 100 page abstracts packet, for
all I know.

-- 
   Don Roberts                   Internet:  don@beckman.com
   Beckman Instruments, Inc.     Phone:     714/961-3029
   2500 Harbor Bl. Mailstop X-12 FAX:       714/961-3351
   Fullerton, CA  92634          Disclaimer:  Blame me, not Beckman.
   People are as happy as they decide to be - A. Lincoln
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson!  New Registration format for Symp
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Aug28.184628.3849@news.arc.nasa.gov>, mcmahon@tgv.com writes...
#Well...
# 
#I won't debate that DECUS is a good thing to be at (it is), however
#it has gotten expensive to go to a DECUS Symposium.  A fair number of
#people are "shielded" from that expense because they are spending
#their employer's money, and not their own.
..
#I stated at an open Board meeting about a year ago that I felt
#that DECUS was making a mistake in raising prices.  I felt the
#economy didn't support a price increase, and that "simple supply
#and demand" would cause attendance to fall.
# 
#I also pointed out that the DECUS cities (Atlanta, New Orleans,
#Anaheim, Las Vegas, San Francisco) traditionally were expensive,
#and suggested that cheaper alternatives be sought.  

Hear Hear!  Let's form a campaign to move DECUS symposiums to
cheaper cities.  Call it, say... DECUS Tucson '95!!!

(Not to detract from John's comments, which are right on target,
but then the DECUS board is more interested in their perks than
convention attendance, to witness past years.)

#--
#John 'Fast-Eddie' McMahon    ()
#E-Mail: MCMAHON@TGV.COM      ()

	Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com

"The best time to zero the list is right before the power fails at your site."
							- Ken Adelman
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson!  New Registration format for Symp
Organization: Computerized Processes Unlimited, Metairie, LA, (504)-889-2784
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:59:33 GMT
Reply-To: gwlester@cpu.com

In article <1992Aug28.184628.3849@news.arc.nasa.gov>, mcmahon@tgv.com (John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMahon) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug17.185327.534@decuac.dec.com>, avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) writes:
>=
>=As for $550.00.... I don't know... There's an awful lot of information
>=packed in there.  I like DECUS.  I'm not sure $550 -- which includes
>=continental breakfast and a full dinner-size, pig-out lunch -- is such
>=a bad deal.
>
>DECUS is not cheap!  In addition to the cost of the Symposium,
>you have to pay "downtown" hotel prices ($60-$120 a night) and
>cover travel to the Symposium.  A estimate of $1500 to $2000 is
>what I usually use.  That's a tough nut to swallow if it's coming
>out of your own pocket.
>

From your figures (which do not include lost income for the self-emplyed, at
least $2,000 at $50/hr), which I think are a little low, the $550 is 28-37%
reducing the fee to $500 would cut the cost by only about 2-3%.  As for the
hotel, all of the cities we are using have lower cost rooms (~$25/night) in the
suburbs, all you have to do is drive or take public transportation.

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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus,comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec
Subject: DECUS Fall 1992 Symposia (Las Vegas)
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:14:08 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

If you have not received your 16 page DECUS Fall 1992 Symposia Program by now 
please send a mail message to OSKIRKO@DECUS.ORG.  Please include...

	Name
	Address
	City, State, Zip
	DECUS membership number
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: Membership fee for DECUS?
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:02:49 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Aug25.090559.686@fps.mcw.edu>, brodie@fps.mcw.edu writes:
> Yes, if decus needs to save some money and trees {don't we all?}, then
> they could probably charge a nominal fee for some of the subscriptions
> (but does that mean we now pay for the decus newsletters AND decuscope/etc
> separately?   hummmm.)

I am affaird this discussion does not reflect the thinking of most of senior 
DECUS leadership who favor this idea.  (BTW I am truly neutral on this issue)

There is a concern that there really are two classes of members...

1) Those who view themselves as MEMBERS of the Digital Equipment _Computer_ 
User Society.

2) Those who view themselves as CONSUMERS of products and services DECUS 
happens to be the provider of.

Group 1 and 2 have different Chapter communication needs.  For example the 
Group 1 folks should be given a voice in the management of the chapter.  The 
Group 2 folks needs to researched like any other customer base.

The core of the thinking of many folks on the membership fee issue is to use it 
as a tool to identify which folks are members and which folks are consumers.  
One would have to view themselves as a member to pay the fee.

Problems arise...

	A) How many group 2 folks by mistake might you drive away?

	B) How many group 2 folks will become group 1 not because of interest
	but because of discounts?

	C) How many group 1 folks will be identified as group 2 folks simply
	because their company won't pay membership fees?

Remember the design objective is to split the membership list based on how each 
member sees themselves - a membership fee is just a suggested tool.  Trust 
there are many many good reasons why spliting the list is goodness - if for no 
other reason to get rid of dartboard voting.
Newsgroups: comp.org.decus
From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Subject: Re: Danger Will Robinson! New Registration format for Symp
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:19:10 GMT

gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.184628.3849@news.arc.nasa.gov>, mcmahon@tgv.com (John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMahon) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Aug17.185327.534@decuac.dec.com>, avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) writes:
>>=
>>=As for $550.00.... I don't know... There's an awful lot of information
>>=packed in there.  I like DECUS.  I'm not sure $550 -- which includes
>>=continental breakfast and a full dinner-size, pig-out lunch -- is such
>>=a bad deal.
>>
>>DECUS is not cheap!  In addition to the cost of the Symposium,
>>you have to pay "downtown" hotel prices ($60-$120 a night) and
>>cover travel to the Symposium.  A estimate of $1500 to $2000 is
>>what I usually use.  That's a tough nut to swallow if it's coming
>>out of your own pocket.
>>

>From your figures (which do not include lost income for the self-emplyed, at
>least $2,000 at $50/hr), which I think are a little low, the $550 is 28-37%
>reducing the fee to $500 would cut the cost by only about 2-3%.  As for the
>hotel, all of the cities we are using have lower cost rooms (~$25/night) in the
>suburbs, all you have to do is drive or take public transportation.

I quibble with your figures.  I've stayed in the outer suburbs of Atlanta
for ~ $40 per night, and paid ~ $10 per day to park near the Georgia
World Congress Center. in 1987. I suspect it's more expensive now.

Heck, I haven't seen a Motel 6 that was under $34 for several years!
-- 
------ Esther Lumsdon   employed by, not speaking for, Verdix Corporation
     It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
  esther@verdix.com  or  esther%verdix.com@uunet.uu.net
From: veilleux@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Wayne Veilleux)
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
Subject: IEEE 802.3 draft spec
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:48:20 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Hi:

Could someone can tell me where I can find the draft specificifications 
of the protocol suite 802.3 ??

	i.e.:	IEEE 802.3 10BaseT
		IEEE 802.3 10Base5
		IEEE 802.3 10Base2
		IEEE 802.2 LLC

Thank you for your help

Wayne Veilleux
Telecom Engineer
Hydro-Quebec
Montreal, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: rsaripa@mars.cs.clemson.edu (Saripalli Ramakrishna)
Subject: Any Ftp node for IEEE articles?.
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:34:13 GMT

Hi,

	This is my first posting on this newsgroup.I would like to know if there is a ftp node that I could 
	'ftp' to to retrieve the journals published by IEEE.Also,can I
	subscribe to IEEE over this newsgroup (by sending them some mail)?.I guess anyone could copy these 
	journals.

	Any info on this would be appreciated.I can summarize if there is enough interest.

				
									Thanks in advance,
								Saripalli Ramakrishna

e-mail : rsaripa@cs.clemson.edu

Address :-
252-A Rock Creek Road
Clemson SC 29631

Phone :- 803-653-3089.
Man is a beast and usually has no control over his passions.
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: How to subscribe to ieee?
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:24:32 GMT

Is it possible to subscribe to ieee over the net?  Or to request an information
packet?

Any help is appreciated!


Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: dtl8v@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Heracleitus)
Subject: Account Changes?
Originator: dtl8v@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:50:09 GMT


  Is there a way to change one's membership address via E-mail, instead
of by sending in the Moving? slips from the monthly journals?

Doug Lamb
University of Virginia
dtl8v@Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
From: awb@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Brown)
Subject: IEEE P1209 ???
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:27:56 GMT




I would like to get in contact with the IEEE committee responsible for
the IEEE P1209 "Evaluation and Selection of CASE Tools".  I would like to
try to get hold of their reports etc.


Any idea how I get hold of technical papers and working drafts, or find
out who is involved in this effort ???


Thanks,

Alan.



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

                  Alan W. Brown
                  Software Engineering Institute
                  Carnegie Mellon University
                  Pittsburgh
                  PA 15213

                  Tel:    412-268-6194
                  Fax:    412-268-5758
                  e-mail: awb@sei.cmu.edu

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: ics.briancasey@Control.Com (Brian Casey)
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee
Subject: Re: IEEE 802.3 draft spec
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:17:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: Control.coHFqB1w164w
Reply-To: ics.briancasey@control.com
Organization: Industrial Computing Society

veilleux@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Wayne Veilleux) writes:

> Hi:
> 
> Could someone can tell me where I can find the draft specificifications 
> of the protocol suite 802.3 ??
> 
> 	i.e.:	IEEE 802.3 10BaseT
> 		IEEE 802.3 10Base5
> 		IEEE 802.3 10Base2
> 		IEEE 802.2 LLC
> 
In Canada, call (908) 981-1393 to order the standards direct from the IEEE.


Brian J. Casey                                          ICSnet: briancasey
Director, Industrial Computing Society    Internet: ics.briancasey@ics.org
Square D Company, Raleigh, NC                       Compuserve: 75570,2454
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From: cspidoug!cspidoug (Doug Johnson - CSPI Mission Viejo, CA)
Newsgroups: comp.org.sug
Subject: 200 MFLOPS Vector Processor for Sun SPARCstatios on Sbus or VME
Keywords: Sun, DSP, Signal Processing, Radar, Sonar, VME, Unix
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 15:21:42 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: CSP,Inc - The Array Processors

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