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From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Ottawa Citizen Morning vs. Afternoon
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:13:37 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <12746@hans> hans@Software.Mitel.COM (Hans Johnsen) writes:
>michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>
>>The Citizen has been delivered to my home before 7AM for over a year
>>now. I live in Nepean.
>
>Why isn't this more widespread? I have been telling the Citizen every
>time they have called over the last two years that I would subscribe
>if they could offer morning delivery.
I live in Kanata and I leave for work before the morning paper used to come.
When I got home and it had rained, snowed or just been plain windy the paper
was either:  i) soaking wet, ii) frozen and dusted with snow, or iii) blown
all over the neighbourhood.  This happened usually two out of five weekdays.
The weekend paper sometimes didn't come until the afternoon so about one
quarter of the time it was in the same rotten state when I got home.  I even
tried to leave a plastic bag in the mailbox and a label affixed for the lid to
be placed back down to cover it over.  No luck, I guess the paper delivery
person was unable to read.  After a year of morning delivery I finally gave up
complaining and cancelled my subscription.

Apparently it's a 50-50 split on those who want morning delivery and those that
don't.  They've had problems with getting delivery people too for the morning
route.  Many people who do want to do morning delivery go out with their not
so tuned (read noisy) vehicles, run over the plowed in driveways in the winter,
and throw the newspapers from their cars as they drive on the wrong side of the
road.

I read a newspaper for more detailed information.  Not for getting timely news,
that's what radio and television are for.


-- 
Michael H. Cox      | ". . . but there is some hope of a constitutional
                    |  settlement"  Monty Python 1971
Mitel Corporation   | "My Canada includes Alberta, B.C., P.E.I., N.S., N.B.,
                    | Ontario, Quebec, Manitoba, Sask., Yukon, Nfld, and N.W.T."
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Subject:  Cellular Phone Certificate
Reply-To: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 13:36:04 GMT

My wife and I received a Certificate for a free Cellular
Phone for booking our honeymoon through Sunquest Vacations.

We have no need for a cellular phone, so we'd like to sell
the Certificate.  The certificate IS transferable.

It's total suggested retail value is $800.  We'd like to
get $400 for it.

If you are interested, please contact rjwyatt@bnr.ca.

Thanx,
Rich
Newsgroups: ott.general
From: ve3pak@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Alayne McGregor and Brett Delmage)
Subject: Re: Disposing of old paint cans
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC., Orleans (Ont)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:00:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.151722.13424@bcrka451.bnr.ca> kbrough@bnr.ca writes:
>After tidying up my basement I found that I have an impressive collection
>of old paint cans with different amounts of toxic waste floating around
>in the bottom. Does anyone know what the "official" means of disposal
>of such things is? I seem to remember hearing something about a
>collection centre on Woodroffe somewhere. Any more specific info
>will be appreciated.

That would be the city yards on Woodward Ave. I doubt they accept it
all the time. If you phone the Regional Environmental Services Division
(see the blue pages of your phone book), they could probably tell you.

Alayne McGregor
alayne@ve3pak.ocunix.on.ca
From: landriau@Software.Mitel.COM (Marc Landriault)
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: For Sale
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:04:02 GMT
Distribution: ott
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


                         For Sale
                         --------

Custom Made:

- Vertical Blinds, 60" X 60", colour mocha (beige)
  1 year old paid $150.00, sell for $75.00

- Venetien Blinds, 39" X 58", colour dusty rose
  1 year old paid $100.00, sell for $45.00

Also:   

- Hoover upright vacuum cleaner, sell for $50.00

- Queen size comforter, sell for $75.00

Call Marc at 592-2122 ext 3078 
Newsgroups: cu.news,ott.general,cu.doe.chat
From: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)
Subject: Printer for Sale
Reply-To: phone_567_3662__dont_use_email
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:30:56 GMT

For sale:  One LA50 printer with RS232 interface, in good working
order.  This is a dot matrix printer made by DEC.  Requires an RS232 cable,
null modem, and power cord.  Asking $60.

Please phone me at 567-3662.  Please don't send e-mail.

--
David F. Skoll


Newsgroups: ott.general
From: kerryy@bnr.ca (Kerry Yackoboski)
Subject: Re: Ottawa Citizen Morning vs. Afternoon
Reply-To: kerryy@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:41:53 GMT

In article <jstewart.715295567@cunews>, jstewart@alfred.carleton.ca (John Stewart) writes:
|> In <1992Aug31.175923.9617@bmerh85.bnr.ca> ejdormer@bmers114.bnr.ca (Eric Dormer) writes:
|> 
|> >I recently began subscribing to the Citizen, but in my area only the 
|> >afternoon edition is delivered.  It appears to me that most of the afternoon
|> >news is simply a repeat of the morning edition, making it even more 
|> >out of date, in addition to being brazenly biased.

  Then again, one day about 2 weeks ago the headline above the fold in
  the street corner boxes was along the lines of "US Supports Use of
  Force in Serbia", while later that afternoon I saw the same day's
  paper with the headline "US Discourages Use of Force in Serbia".  I'm
  paraphrasing, but obviously they do update the paper when necessary.

  And I can't believe that anyone can honestly call the Citizen
  biased. :-) :-) :-)  Keep in mind that the primary purpose of the
  newspaper is not to provide an honest or unbiased presentation of
  events, but to make money for the owners.

|> I don't believe the Citizen offers morning home delivery so I'd expect
|> anyone with home delivery to receive the afternoon edition.  

  The morning edition is sitting just inside the front door of the
  apartment block I live in when I leave for work in the morning
  (around 7:30).  My paper doesn't make it up to the door of my
  apartment until early afternoon (between 1 and 2 as near as I can
  figure).
From: julie@geovision.gvc.com (Julie Waterhouse (Co-op))
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: RIDE TO WATERLOO
Summary: Ride from Ottawa to Waterloo, Sept 1st, can move your stuff too.
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:23:10 GMT
Distribution: ott
Organization: (unofficially) GeoVision Systems Incorporated, Ottawa, Ont.


Hi,

My roommate will be driving a truck down to Waterloo from Ottawa on the
morning of Tuesday, September 1st.  He has room in the cab for a passenger
(two if you squeeze), and room in the truck for any stuff you want to move.

Price negotiable (depending how much stuff you want to bring).


Contact:

days (Aug 26 & 27): Andrew Park at 596-4942 or
                    Julie Waterhouse at 722-9518

evenings till Aug 28th and all day Aug 29th & 31st: 729-3365


Cheers,

--Julie (julie@geovision.gvc.com)

(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
Newsgroups: ott.general,ont.forsale
From: dmongrai@gandalf.ca (Dan Mongrain)
Subject: Waterbed mattress for sale
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:00:55 GMT

I will be moving shortly and my new landlord does not allow
waterbeds.  I have purchased a replacement conventional
mattress so my blader is for sale.

It is an Halcyon mattress, 90% waveless, wave absorption
chambers (not foam), queen size.  It is 2 years old.

Also available is the heater pad with electronic
thermostat and queen size liner.

Asking $150 for the whole kit (OBO).

For more information leave E-mail or call 723-6500 after
6:00 pm.

                                  Thanx
                                  Dan Mongrain
                                  dmongrai@bach.gandalf.ca
From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Request for information regarding GENBANK updates on UNIX/DOS
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:09:01 GMT
Reply-To: doelz@urz.unibas.ch
Organization: EMBnet Switzerland [BASEL]

In article <205@sftwks.UUCP>, bradbury@sftwks.UUCP (Robert Bradbury) writes:
|> I have the GBUPDATE package by Brent Hobbs but this seems to create
|> a single file containing the entire database which is bad for S5 UNIX
|> (due to ulimits and multiple indirect blocks) and worse for DOS
|> (file system size limits).  There seem to be messy tradeoffs between
|> organizing this in flat files (perhaps in directories for each organism)
|> which would require extra time to open each file verses large files
|> which would require the creation of some fancy indexing scheme.
|> Is anyone keeping the database in some kind of flat file system
|> that they can give me some advice on what works/doesn't work?
|> 

I use a system V (IRIX) and the UNIX archiver (ar) to create files. 
The ar can input more than one change at a time, and can do the 
required add/delere/replace/list functionality. 


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From: rsmith@kite.bcm.tmc.edu (Randall Smith)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Pima users
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:36:05 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX


>I am now beginning to use the Pattern Induced Multiple Alignement
>(PIMA 1.22) package . I meet a very strange problem. Apparently the
>make-cluster.sh file contains an instruction :'cat -n ...'

Sorry about that ...  the '-n' option is a BSD extension that is 
not available under Unix SysV.  To fix this, just replace the
"cat -n" with: awk '{n=n+1; print n"\t"$0}'



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Randall F. Smith                           | 
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W.M. Keck Center for Computational Biology | 
Dept. of Cell Biology                      | 
Baylor College of Medicine                 | Phone: 713-798-4735
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From: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu (Anthony J. Persechini)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: GDE2.0 software package
Keywords: GDE2.0, Irix4.0.x
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:58:59 GMT
Reply-To: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester

A port of Steve Smith's GDE (Genetic Data Environment)
package for Silicon Graphics machines running Irix4.0.x is
now available for anonymous ftp on crocus.medicine.rochester.edu 
(128.151.16.31). This port has not been exhaustively tested, but everything
seems to work properly. As noted in the README file,
I am supplying this port as-is, but am willing to address
reproducible port-specific problems (i.e., core dumps) as time permits.

For additional details, see the README file. Binaries only
are available at present.

-- 
Anthony Persechini
Assistant Professor
University of Rochester School of Medicine
ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: samodena@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (S. A. Modena)
Subject: Re: object-oriented BASIC???
Organization: Crop Science Dept., NCSU, Raleigh, NC 27695-7620
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:27:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.210410.11779@reed.edu> bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo)) writes:
>
>Well...QuickBasic allows some pretty sophisticated (for BASIC) structured
>programming techniques; using them, one can employ certain object-oriented
>techniques, just as one can do the same thing in C or Pascal.  
>However, QuickBasic is *not* an OOPL in the sense of C++, Objective
>C, Object Pascal, or SmallTalk.  I highly doubt it will ever become an OOPL;
>I just don't think there's any reason for it.  There are far better languages.
>
>Just my $0.02,
>bobo
>bowman@reed.edu

I agree with bobo's assessment.

I might point out to the originator of this thread, that perhaps what
you actually need to look into is OOA/OOD, i.e. Object-oriented Analysis
and Object-oriented Design.  A visit to B Dalton's or your university
library/bookstore is in order: there are at least a half-dozen current
books dealing with OOA/OOD that do not drop down into specific code
examples...because for a starter there is no need.

"Object-oriented Analysis" by Coad and Yourdan (or maybe it's by Coad
alone and published by Yourdan Press).....anyway a knowledgable
computer bookstore "librarian" will know the most popular current
titles, but because this is a topic that is selling a lot of books
right now.  "The Tao of Objects" is another that comes to mind.

As noted by bobo, there are object-oriented techniques and there are
laguages/implementations with explicitly support adnaced object-
oriented coding.  There is even Object Assembly (which, BTW, is a 
far ahead of "object-oriented" QuickBasic).

It's worth reading (and maybe practising) objected-oriented because
it lends another level of clarity to software design, coding and maintenance.

Steve
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Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Help re: predicting transmembrane domains.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: bionet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:34:39 GMT

I was told that an algorithm developed by Klein, Kanchesa and D'Lisi
exists which is of use in predicting hydrophobic regions in proteins.
Could any one provide more information please?

Thanks

George
From: dmerberg@GENETICS.COM
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Predicting transmembrane proteins
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:37:52 GMT
Distribution: bionet


 
>        I got some time ago a program called ALOM from Don Gilbert (see
>Fasman & Gilbert, TIBS 15, 1990, 89-92) which predicts transmembrane spans
>according to Klein, Kanehisa & De Lisi (BBA 815, 1985, 468-476).
>       The source code was available by ftp to VAX.WI.EDU, directory
>ANONYMOUS.TIBS.KKD
>        Good luck!
>- ---
>J-L. Risler                                     Bionet@frcgm51.bitnet
>Centre de Genetique Moleculaire                 Risler@frcgm51.bitnet
>91190 Gif sur Yvette   France
 
The reference cited, and the ftp site vax.wi.edu, are contributions by
William Gilbert of the Whitehead Institute.  Don Gilbert maintains a
separate archive (ftp.bio.indiana.edu).

Thanks to both Gilberts for providing useful molbio computational tools
and maintaining ftp sites!

Dave Merberg
Genetics Institute

Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: rzugo@unizh.ch (Alexander Godknecht)
Subject: X-Windows for the Mac !
Keywords: Mac, MacX
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Zurich
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:06:18 GMT

I use MacX (Version 1.1.7) as X-Windows Server on my 
Mac II ci (21", 32 MB RAM). It is very comfortable to
use, easy to configure and not very expensive. I tested it on a 
Mac II si (13", 17 MB RAM) and it worked satisfactory.
MacX allows rooted (clients Window-Manager) and unrooted
(Mac-Window-Manager) environements simultaneously. The amount of
Memory required depends on the number of open windows. 
Apples default settings are 1.5 MB, I raised it to 6.5 MB but never
really need all of it. 

Best regards,

Alexander Godknecht
Rechenzentrum Univ. Zuerich
Biocomputing
e-mail: rzugo@rzu.unizh.ch
From: baird@LABSUN1.MED.UOTTAWA.CA (stephen baird)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: embl/gopher
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:32:44 GMT
Distribution: bionet

to all gopher hunters,	
    Does anybody know a gopher hole that one can search and retrieve
sequences from the EMBL database like the great IUBIO gopher hole?	

Thanks,
From: Rob.Harper@CSC.FI (Rob Harper)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Simtel Uploads.
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:12:10 GMT
Distribution: bionet

Well it looks like from the number of people who replied to me, that 
the Simtel uploads is a useful service so I will continue to post them
as they come in.

RGDS -=ROB=-

   Rob Harper                     /   E-mail:          harper@convex.csc.fi    
   Finnish State Computer Centre  /   Molbio/software: harper@nic.funet.fi
   P.O. Box 40, SF-02101 Espoo    /   Telephone:       +358 0 457 2076
   Finland                        /   Fax:             +358 0 457 2302
From: stine@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Blaine Stine)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Mac to PC disk utility?- Watch out with
Keywords: file translation
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:05:59 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <4973@news.duke.edu> adm@neuro.duke.edu (Alan Magid) writes:
>Another INIT that I favor for the purpose is AccessPC (Insignia,
>publishers of SoftPC).
>Almost ideal for the purpose though is MacLink/PC. (Dataviz). A cable
>between the Mac and PC + a zillion file translators. Very smooth, fast,
>and solid. $135 at our college computer shop. MacConnection has it
>for mail-order purchase, for example.
>Disclaimer: one man's opinion only. I have no connection with any of
>the named enterprises. Just trying to help.
>-Alan Magid

Well we just purchased AccessPC (2.0) and there is a MAJOR
incompatibility with 128 meg Magneto Optical drives. I know
their manual lists all the 128meg drives that the MultiDriver
is supposed to be compatible with but *beware* if you follow
the instructions and do the following:

1) Format the MO disk on the PC using whatever software came
with the drive. Copy files to it (I copied a bunch of TIFF
images)

2) Install AccessPC on your Mac and hook up the MO. The
partitions will mount, you can open the files (I used Photoshop
2.0), save the changes.

3) Go back to the PC and you will not be able to read or write
to the MO disk!

4) Go back to the Mac, mount the PC disk and the files will
be corrupted.

I haven't figured out what AccessPC is doing to the disk and if
the changes can be fixed on the PC with Norton or something, but
basically it dosen't work like they say it does. I called
Insignia about and got the run-around from three people before
someone gave me some straight talk and said the developer tested
the the driver with an IBM 128 MO mechanism only! Even though
it says directly in the manual it is compatible with the Sony
301. So now I'm awaiting a patch that is "supposed to fix the 
compatibility problem". Also their Media Formater does not work
with the Sony 301 either......So if you have a 128MO and want to
use AccessPC with it be sure you have a handy backup ready!

Blaine Stine
awaiting a patch...
stine@jeeves.ucsd.edu
From: wmelchior@NTBTOX.NCTR.FDA.GOV ("Bill Melchior, NCTR/FDA")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Thanks for info on mac/pc exchange
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:39:23 GMT
Reply-To: wmelchior@NTDOC.NCTR.FDA.GOV
Distribution: bionet

My thanks to the over two dozen people who replied to my question about
Mac to PC file exchange.  I'm now trying to learn how to use the
Apple File Exchange utility that came with the Mac.  (For anyone else
who doesn't know, it's on the floppy labelled "Tidbits".)  I think my problem 
now is with the format of the files created by the application program.

Thanks again, Bill
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 10:53:04 EDT
From: Robert Roxby <RROXBY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: subscription

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From: wetsel_r@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: RE: object-oriented BASIC???
Date: 27 AUG 92 12:08:08 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

YES!  BASIC can be OOP.  Originally, BASIC was seriously flawed as one
could just write anything one wanted without regard to format or structure.
 Recently, the Microsoft (and a few others) modified BASIC in such a way so
that one would be "coaxed" into an OOP format -- thus the QuickBasic
Compliers were born.  I can attest to this from personal experience. 
Subroutines in QuickBasic become what are called modules, where a program
is actually a collection of modules held together with a central program. 
Many books on advanced QuickBasic programming exist which allow one to
setup 'pop-up' windows and make your program easier on the eye and the
end-user.  However, when BASIC (through Quickbasic) was going through this
evolution, C came along and I know of a number of BASIC programmers who
jumped ship.   By the time BASIC became OOP, C had grabbed a good portion
of the programmers.   I never did switch as I have too dog-gone much stuff
(both Science and non-science) in BASIC and would be too 'costly' to
switch. BTW - regular BASIC programs will operate in the QuickBasic
environment.  I should take some of this back - like the word
"recently".... now that I think about it, the last version of QuickBAsic to
come about was around 1987 if I'm not mistaken... 

To answer your question, Yes, BAsic can be OOP through the QuickBasic Compiler.
Easily obtained at your local discount Software store, PC-MAG, Egghead...

Happy programming...

David

Disclaimer: I'm not employed by any software house or Microsoft, especially 
Microsoft since they are in Seattle...

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From: kristoff@net.bio.genbank (Dave Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: test 2, please ignore
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:12:55 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Original-To: bio-soft@uk.ac.daresbury


test of bio-soft@daresbury.ac.uk