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From: jeffy@athena.mit.edu ()
Subject: Re: Mark Hosler is dead (was Re: Is Trent dead?   NIN) 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:00:52 GMT

[Usenet's favorite pundit, Lazlo Nibble, discusses Mark Hosler's death at
 the hands of the Weatherman via an industrial shredder]

I had to burst your bubble, Laz, but I just talked to Hosler the other day,
and he informs me the Weatherman's role in his death is a little less direct;
as they were recording the shredder, Hosler tripped over the Booper(tm) and
pitched headfirst into the opening. Wills, according to Hosler, "couldn't
believe the incredible noise" and only turnned it off after things had settled
down a bit some ten minutes later. Watch for the single.

jeffy@athena.mit.edu|||This is my first useless post. There will be more.
                       Collect them all.
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Slug Bait Lyrics Please
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:32:52 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <BuDEDn.8nw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.140021.24379@tdb.uu.se> t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
>>Could somebody please post the lyrics to
>>Throbbing Gristle's masterpiece 'Slug Bait'.
> ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
>One of these things is not like the other,
>which of these things does not belong?


Uh, "Gristle".

Did I guess right?  What do I win?




-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Under the Big Dome, continued....
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:24:03 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Philip Galanter writes:
>Is there a mail-order source for Dome stuff?  I tried a few places here  
>but they didn't have it...it may be somewhere in NYC but I have not found  
>it yet.

I'd suggest trying AB-CD up in Port Arthur. From here, it's at 
914-939-2223 (and may vary in your area code). They've also got
a retail outlet....in Soho, maybe? Tell Bill that I said hello.
They've got 1&2 and 3&4 and Duet Emmo all in stock even as I type.

With regards,
Greg Taylor

--
A machine plays many pianos at once and the music holds them aloft, a different
tune for each ship. Freedom has nothing to do with control and control nothing
to do with my weak heart lonely for its birthday and the excitement of pure
sunlight and of snow parting into countless buoyant shapes over the airfield.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 04:48:52 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:

[About using "gay" as an insult:]

>> I'm sorry, but Michael Wasson is right...even though it is a common
>> slang word, it is still homophobic.   
>
> NO its NOT _homophobic_! 

Fine -- how about we settle for bigoted and obnoxious?

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K)
Subject: Re: My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult: show dates?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:34:39 GMT


	I also heard that MLWTTTK is going to be in New Orleans on Sept. 15.
Dammit!  I want to go see them, but it wouldn't be too good for my sanity
with an 8:00 to 7:00 school day on Thursday.  Oh, well, might go anyway.
	Anyway, I think (heard) it is going to be at Tips' and the tickets
are going to be $10.  Anyone playing with them???

							Isenguard
							isenguard@usl.edu
From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Skoda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FLA took my baby away
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:36:52 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Skoda) writes:
> williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu (fEAR AND lOATHING IN cEDAR fALLS) writes:
> > Hello neighbors!
> >    I went and saw FLA at Chicago and they were not half bad.  Whoever that
> > opening band was (Constantinople?) they were far from impressive in my opinion. 
> 
> 	I missed them. Long Story. I thought it was Contagion, maybe. Anyway,
> Quick Review: The Contagion album blows. To quote a Pychic TV Sample"All
> records sound alike, same beat, same tempo, same drums." All songs sound 
						   ^^^^^er, this should
say "riffs". And using a sample as a quote attributed to a band...is there
any validity remaining to the argument? or has all merit been stripped
since no one knows really where it comes from or how out of context it really
is?
 
 mike
 mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10238 alt.rave:2924
From: ee3401cb@carina.unm.edu (Student Class Account)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
Subject: SHAMEN Announcement: was Re: Shamen LSI - a real disappointment
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:29:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.+qrncmq
Organization: University of Hardcore, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep8.140028.8409@athena.mit.edu> jeffy@athena.mit.edu writes:
>[Chris 'n' Dave Just Can't Take the new Shamen stuff (Ebeneezer/LSI)]
>
>Boy, you're in for a treat when you get the album, because these are the
>"best" two tracks! When I got the beta copy of the album a few months ago,
>I crossed my fingers that they would patch things up for the release copy.
>Then, the "real" album came in a bit ago, nothing much was changed. The
>worst tracks on the album, "Comin' On," and the last track, are rather
>evil; the last track features a 5 min+ discussion of Shamanism that reminds
>me of Negativland's Weatherman after he's eaten a pot of Vix Vapor Rub(tm).
>Avoid this album at all costs....
>
>Erland rating: -5,893
>Crawford rating: Um, vanilla with metal shaving sprinklies?

I bought the LSI single and I hated it as much as the next person.  So
much so that I don't see any` point in continuing their discography.  I was
enthusisastic back in the good ol' days of "En'Tact" but why bother now?

Does anybody want to take over the job of maintaining the Shamen dicography?
I didn't think so.

James 'Take this job and shove it' Word
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Mark Hosler is dead (was Re: Is Trent dead? NIN)
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:35:59 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <_5wnjxm@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:


>I heard that he was setting up microphones inside an industral metal
>shredder for their next album when David Wills (The Weatherman), who was
>playing with the controls, accidentally turned it on.  His estate is suing
>the company that owns the shredder for overriding the safeties that would
>have ordinarily prevented such an accident. 

Wasn't he listening to the song "Christianity is Supid", which provoked an
argument just before he turned it on?


-- 
    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"
   /   \     fnord@panix.com                | 
  / <0> \                                   | "Don't just eat a hamburger, 
 /_______\   Church of Obfuscatology, Inc.  |  eat the HELL out of it!"
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10527 alt.rap:4536 alt.music.alternative:10489
From: trs4742@sigma.tamu.edu (SEBESTA, TIMOTHY RICHARD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rap,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Meat Beat Manifesto
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:30:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BuMJ5G.21v@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH) writes...
>speaking of meat beat manifesto, can anyone tell me the name of the song
>that contains the lyric:  "This is what its all about....This is what its
>all about....  ....Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll...."???  I've heard it a
>few years back but can't remember the name.  I'm am just now getting into
>meat beat.  better late than never, i guess.

The song is called Psyche Out off of 99%

Tim Sebesta
> 
>thanks
> 
>-- 
>+Primus-RedHotChiliPeppers-RollinsBand-TheChurch-TheHouseOfLove-U2-Pixies-Curve+
>			JAY "IDig" PARDEE
>					v-ball@uiuc.edu
>+-KMFDM-NineInchNails-Ministry-FrontLineAssembly-MeatBeatManifesto-SkinnyPuppy-+
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mah@eng.ufl.edu (MICHAEL HEERKENS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: RE: Is trent dead? <- You guys are Fucked in the head?
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:40:24 GMT
Distribution: everyone
Organization: Herx Werx



And who the hell is this fil Marsiglio feltch bucket anyways?


(and for those of you who don't know what feltch is: it is a substance that 
is a combination of vaseline, shit, and cum. Often a by-product that is 
produced when homosexuals engage in unsafe anal sex)


"IS TRENT DEAD?"


Where do you people get this shit?

It kinda reminds me of the time William Shatner hosted Saturday Night Live,

the skit showed him hosting a Star Trek convention, he looked around at

all of the people decked out in Star Trek garb, and said:


"Who are you people, get a life, and you

yes you the one dressed like a vulcan, get a life,

have you ever kissed a girl?, come on poeple get real it was a job I

had in the sixties!"


Funny, it kind of applies here too.


Get real, Tune In, Burn Out, Fuck Off


Herx 4 now
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: FAQ Addition: Industrial Culture Handbook info
Summary: Add this book to the FAQ...it's essential
Keywords: industrial Re/Search pretentious anti-art crap Throbbing Gristle
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:55:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


        This should be added to the rec.music.industrial FAQ.  I forgot who
handles the FAQ, so I mailing this to some known rec.music.industrial
contributors as well as posting it to rec.music.industrial:

        The _Industrial_Culture_Handbook_ is the best available reference guide
to industrial music and the industrial clique.  Although it only covers a small
number of individuals up to circa 1983, it gives a very good idea of how this
whole "industrial" clique started, and it should go far toward ending debates
about what "industrial music" is and is not.

Re/Search
Issue #6/7
Industrial Culture Handbook
ISBN 0-940642-07-7
Publishers and Editors: V. Vale, Andrea Juno


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Matt's trick postings. WATCH OUT!
Keywords: Crash Worship
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:56:41 GMT
Followup-To: lazlo@triton.unm.edu
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <6vnnq+r@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>payne@ecf.toronto.edu (PAYNE DENISE JOYCE) writes:
>
>> Be VERY careful with the headers you send you when replying to Matt's
>> wanker posts. He's follow-ed-up-to Misc Test and for fucking weeks
>> you'll be getting mail with copies of everything from auto echoers. 
>
>That's because *he* got caught in that very same trap a couple of days ago.
>

Wrong, Lazlo, wrong.  How could I have possibly been caught
in a trap that I set?  Admittedly, I recieve responses from
the automatic posters, but I EDITED THE NEWSGROUP LINE
TO MAKE IT THAT WAY.

Does that make any sense to you at all?

Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

And if you don't believe it, check it.


What are you reading misc.test for, anyway?

Lame-o.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: Techno/Rave/Industrial/Garage?  Confusing, man...
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:13:09 GMT

In article <XJAM.92Sep9102806@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>, xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>   Christian> In article <1685C12F80.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
> > garage=who gives a sh*it about garage music? try the "alternative" group.
> 
>   Christian> Well I certainly don't.  And I don't think the people in the "alternative"
>   Christian> group do either.  'Garage' means Ce Ce Peniston, Adeva,
>   Christian> Clubland, Cathy Dennis, "Shake Your Head" by Was Not Was....
>   Christian> that kind of stuff. 
> 
> That is definitiely *not* garage. Try Mass Order, Ultra Nate', Blaze, and a
> host of other New Jersey/Philadelphia groups and acts. This is from someone
> who does give a shit about garage dance music.

Yeah?  Then what would you call the stuff I listed?  Those artists definitely
file under 'garage' as far as I know.  Just because I don't give a shit about
it doesn't necessarily mean I don't know what it is.

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's gettin' hectic... it's gettin' wild
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.cyberpunk
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: FLA video-wall
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: net
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:32:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.021237.28846@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.144655.8781@uvm.edu> coan@griffin (Brian M Coan) writes:
>>Well, I got to see Front Line Assembly in Boston on Saturday night. It
>>was only $7.00! That was cool. Awesome show, at least 90min long!
>>Anyway, the 4x4 screen video wall was really cool. I was wondering, who
>>put that together?
>
>I saw them in Baltimore.  Very neat stuff.  One monitor on the video
>wall kept failing though.  Anyone know how they do that?  Digital or
>analog?  Inquiring minds want to know!
>
>But, ya know what?  The music was OK for violent, thrashy techno, but
>I really couldn't get into it.  The mosh pit was mega-violent, and
>after moshing a bit and listening to the violent music, I snuck around
>until I found a back room playing happy technorave, and proceeded to
>enter the trancelike 150 BPM dancing state.  

FLA put on an awesome show last week in DC, but the pit wasn't ultraviolent.
I mean it occupied a good chunk of the 9:30 club's floorspace, but theret
weren't a whole lot of people doing dives or surfing, which was actually
kind of cool. I got to watch the show instead of having to fend off NINnies
trying to bounce off my face like I did at the SP show in June.

That was another thing:Crowd mix, saw a lot of the older goth crowd there,
but a distinct absence of younger NINnies. Yeah, there were a few there,
but they were way outnumbered. Perhaps its because FLA isn't as widely
known to the poseurs as say SP or Ministry or NIN is.

Anyways, the video-wall was pretty cool. They seemed to make heavy use of
the StarGate sequence from 2001 for it.

A band called Contagion opened for FLA. They were pretty good except for the
last song which basically consisted of the lead singer shouting "Fuck You!"
at everybody in the crowd. Real original, real mature! . Too bad it was their
last song 'cause it kind of screwed up an otherwise pretty cool set.
Anybody else seen these guys??--Opinions?

----Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
From: Daryn.Belden@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Daryn Belden)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Hypo Luxa/Hermes Pan
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:31:54 GMT


   Once again I show my ignorance, but this has been bothering me ever since I found out ANYTHING about Ministry... who are Hypo Luxa and Hermes Pan, listed as producers on LORAH and Psalm 69? Is this just Paul and Alain, as would make the most sense, or did they actually pull in outside producers for these albums?

                                                -DSB

P.S. I'd greatly appreciate someone who knows anything about music to actually      ANSWER the question asked in this post instead of flaming me for implying      Ministry is an industrial band.  Fucking all anyone does on here is flame
     about the definition of industrial, completely ignoring opportunities to
     actually make themselves useful by answering a sincere question.

 * Origin: NineJackNine (1:121/99)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Subject: Need info on what's up in Seattle
Reply-To: randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd)
Organization: RDR, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:31:34 GMT



I'll be in the Seattle area from Oct. 15 to Oct 25, can anyone lemme know  
what's up for shows in the areas in that time?


Randy
randyrdr.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Re: Homophobia? What the fuck... (Was: Moshing? What the fuck...)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:07:31 GMT

>
>
>So, in other words you are equating gays with being "stupid,dumb,fucking
>idiot"???
>
**AS a matter a fact,Yes,Si,Ja,correct-a-mundo!!!
From: mikey@ece.arizona.edu (Michael Gribbons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Crash Worship Reviews Requested
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:32:41 GMT
Reply-To: mikey@ece.arizona.edu (Michael Gribbons)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


just skimmed over the reviews of the latest Crash Worship tour.

they played here in Tucson, AZ on August 18th (i think?) and it was
a great show as always.
They played at the Downtown Performance Center, a large empty warehouse
with a stage built in it where all ages shows are done, an excellent space
to see such a band as Crash Worship because anything goes.

When the band finally began it was with alot of noise, alot of smoke and
a wailing singer, very mesmerizing.

The intensity of a Crash Worship show is hard to describe. It involves
incredible drum playing and lots of dancing bodies and constant visual
stimulus. This was the third time I have seen them in so many years and 
their show just gets better each time. In addition to the fire and dancers
as usual there were additions to the show this time. Large trays of fruit
were carried out into the crowd two or three times to give people a bit of
a breather and some extra energy, a man was walking around with a wine skin
giving drinks to people, periodically the singer would spray down the
audience with water from a fire extinguisher, vegtable oil was also poured
onto the audience by the band, people in the crowd seemed to bring their own
food substances as well (rice pudding and chocolate syrup among them) also
carried out on large trays were what appeared to be a large amount of 
refried beans (? don't know, wasn't particularly interested in touching that)
and the amazing roasted pig, yes a huge roasted pig which the crowd proceeded
to rip apart and some ate it. Personally, I found this really cool but also
quite disgusting since the thing smelled horribly of rotting flesh. Think 
about how long it would take to properly roast a huge pig, I believe it was
a bit undercooked and it smelled horrible, and I couldn't believe people 
would want to rub rotting flesh over their bodies.

Although they always have an amazing performance act with them the true reason
to see them is the music. They are incredible musicians and the music is
a pleasure to move your body to.

The bad thing about the show for me was that Crash Worship is getting very
popular and with shows like that rather infamous around here. The crowds 
have been getting bigger and bigger each year for their performances. While 
in general I think this is great I also found it extremely annoying, past that
it FUCKING PISSED ME OFF that the band stopped playing to yell at the audience
because little puddin' head fucks were throwing shit at the band. Sorry, but
this is the soapbox bit, if a band is there entertaining you and you are 
getting into it why would you throw shit at them?

Though usually a great time, I ended up getting very agitated at this
performance
which was only due to angst ridden teenagers with a need to prove their
masculinity.

Enjoy,
Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dmb54052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Beast)
Subject: Re: NIN-----> halo two?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:19:33 GMT

so its pretty hate machine huh? i never even thought to look.
boy, do i feel stupid. i just thought that since halos 1/3/4
were all singles, that 2 had to be a single as well.
oops.

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: JULEE CRUISE solo project
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:23:49 GMT

In article @rpi.edu, buckmr@vccsouth01.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
>>buckmr@RPI.EDU (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>
>>> What's it like? Are the vocals and music similar to the stuff she did
>>> for the TWIN PEAKS and TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME soundtracks? 
>
>>Yes, in fact all the vocal tracks she did on the _Twin Peaks_ (TV)
>>soundtrack album are culled from her earlier solo album.  If you liked her
>>songs in the TV show and movie, her other material won't disappoint you. 
>Oh, I didn't realise that her solo album came out BEFORE the TV show and
>soundtrack...I'll definitely pick it up, then.

For the record (no pun intended), the title of the album is "Floating
Into the Night", a strange combination of the title of the first songs
of each side of the album. A number of the songs were, as mentioned
previously, featured on "Twin Peaks" and "Blue Velvet", and the album
was produced by David Lynch's personal muse Angelo Badalamenti.

Personally, I only play Julee Cruise's album during Halloween season
and in times of extreme, suicidal depression. :)


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--Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector           |   cup of joe!"
--Schaumburg, IL (just another suburb of Chicago) |   -- Dale Cooper
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~~necessarily those of this corporation.          |   with that?" 
~~Copyright 1992, all rights reserved.            |   -- Roger Clemens
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From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Song on Evening News with Dan Rather
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:22:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <BuFH35.565@acsu.buffalo.edu> darweesh@acsu.buffalo.edu (michael j darweesh) writes:
>
>A night or two on the world news with Dan Rather, they mentioned and played a
>little bit of a song that was chocked-full of George Bush samples.
>Unfortunately, they didn't mention the song name or group name.
>
>Anyone out there know of the song?
>
>Personal E-mail might be best.
>
>Thanks,
>-Mike

I saw something about this on CNN recently.  I think either the song
or the "group" (or both) is called "A Thousand Points Of Night."  In
any event, it was put together by producer Don Was.  Sounds pretty
funny.  Hope this gains some popularity as the campaign heats up ...

-- 
( David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu                                 )
( "Well now, what can a poor boy do, 'cept to sing for a rock-n-roll band?" )
(  -The Rolling Stones, "Street Fighting Man"                               )
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc