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From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Fight for sole custody or joint?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 00:06:22 GMT

Belinda Asbell writes in part:


In article <1992Nov5.162839.2742@vicorp.com>, mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
|>
|> My ex has moved 50 miles away in an attempt to make joint custody that
|> much more difficult. We're in Mass, in the beginning phases of the divorce.
|>
|> He says the court
|> won't make a decision forcing her to move back to within the last place
|> of domicile (where I remain), despite the fact that I moved from California
|> to this area precisely to accomodate her a year and a half ago.

I sympathize with you, Mark...my husband's ex-wife moved his children from
Georgia to Alaska virtually without telling him (he found out because his
daughter said "we're moving!", the day before they moved).  We've been involved
in a custody battle for over a year now....it's nasty.

We've got a bit of an edge because we do have a decent case....she has had a
history of serious emotional instability as well as a few other things.

It will be expensive, if you try to go for it.  I would suggest trying for sole
custody, though, if you want a relationship with your kids at all.  If she's
moved away solely to make joint custody difficult, then some other things you
might expect are:

	- restriction of visitation ("oh, we won't be here then", "oh, they're
		sick", or they just won't be there when you show up)
	- her trying to change the kids' last names
	- her telling the children bad things about you ("daddy doesn't come see
	you very often because he doesn't love you", or "daddy threw us out"
	(if you initiated the divorce, or maybe even if you didn't) ))
	- if you get summer visitation, they may be coached to misbehave ("you
	don't have to do what daddy tells you to do")
	- further moves if you do drive 50 miles to see them every weekend or
	whatever.

NOTE:  These are my own opinions and observations.  Some ex's may be civilized
and actually cooperate...I have known a few of those.  I also have heard of a fe
fathers who don't want to deal with their children, but not many.  I've seen
fathers who want to but have been told "you don't have a shot in hell" so they
just don't try.

..  (Sound advice and encouragement deleted) ...

You are describing what is becoming known among mental health professionals
as Parental Alienation Syndrome.  See Dr. Richard Gardner's book "The
Parental Alienation Syndrome" for a complete and exact description of what
is going on or likely to go on.  It is depressingly common.  Courts will
sometimes recognize it and act on professional advice IF you point it
out to them.  Get the book.  Don't wait til Tuesday. The consequences for
your kids could be catastrophic.  Teen age suicide is a known consequence.

I'm going through it now in California, after having had my son kidnapped
to a foreign country by my former in-laws.

Good luck, and forget the financial aspects, you'll live through that.

Al Moore
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights
From: williakb@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Ken Williamson)
Subject: Re: Fight for sole custody or joint?
Followup-To: alt.dads-rights
Organization: Parents for Equal Rights of Tenn.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:23:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.162839.2742@vicorp.com>, mc@vicorp.com (Mark
Charalambous) wrote:
> 
> 
> My ex has moved 50 miles away in an attempt to make joint custody that
> much more difficult. We're in Mass ...


You might ask for joint legal and split physical custody. Joint legal means
you share decisions. Ask court to appoint atty to represent child (cost to
be shared jointly) or a mediator or arbitrator to resolve any disputes. Be
specific on kinds of decisions (medical, educational etc.) that enter in
and should be arbitrated if you two cannot agree.

Split physical is reasonable if you are in close proximity. Make a
traditional "visitation schedule" which one of you keeps for half the year,
then you both switch the next half. As long as the child's school district
does not change (and he/she is not of "tender years") this approach may
fly. With split physical custody, you can argue that she pay you child
support during time when child is with you. or neither of you pay... 

Your atty is correct in that you must look like the one who is most
interested in cooperation. offer mediation etc. prior to litigation. In
deposition, push on the issue of her conduct and character, that is, *she*
is the one who does not want to cooperate in the best interest of the
child. 

good luck.


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Email to: williakb@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
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From: daw@cray.com (Dave Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights,soc.men
Subject: Re: War on Fathers (was: StipU whatever
Keywords: child support custody fathers deadbeat
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:30:36 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

>> >What is going on in the divorce courts of America is nothing less than a
>> >war against fathers and fatherhood, perpetrated by an unholy alliance of
>> >self-righteous social workers, man-haters, and judges wallowing in the
>> >egotistical fantasy of themselves as noble saviours of oh-so-grateful

>Is it any wonder that most divorce actions today are initiated by women?

No, the system gives them incentives to divorce. Get their cake and eat
it to.

>And that's not even considering the fact that the "custodial parent"
>usually gets the family home, if any, and the tax deduction for the
> 
> 
>children almost invariably is awarded to the mother.  Even if only 50%
>the fact remains that millions of men are being forcibly evicted from
>their children's lives, with very little recourse.  The "New Fathers" of
>today become the check-mailing exiles of tomorrow.  Try to imagine what
>it is like to be involved in the care and raising of a child... talking
>with them over breakfast, taking them to school or to the park,
>birthdays, christmas, the whole nine yards... and suddenly, you are
>told, "get lost, you're irrelevant, just keep sending the money and
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>maybe if you're lucky you'll get to see your kids for a few hours a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>- xenon

Now days the women use this as a threat extorting whatever they want from
the spouse and then throw the father away anyways, replacing him with
their latest fling.
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights,soc.men,talk.abortion
From: rmk@doc.cray.com (Bob Kass)
Subject: Re: Let's Play StipU (1)
Organization: Cray Research Inc.
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:02:29 CST

In article <Bx7o88.9u3@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
>In article <1d9a95INN31j@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>>In article <Bx7FwF.2E9@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
>>>In article <1d6qhrINNr6c@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>>
>>Ah, but there is the upside, too.  FATHERS who attend PTA meetings, or
>>field trips with their kids, or go to the grocery store with little Johnney
>>in the basket are positively fawned upon for their fatherliness, whereas
>>women are just doing their duty (-:.
>
>
>As a father who is choked to death with this kind of condescension,
>I personally call this a DOWNSIDE.
>
>After the first time it happens, you realize it reflects the base
>assumption that, because you're a man, one would expect you to be
>either incompetent or disinterested.
>
>
>"Oh how nice, the little lady has a job to keep her occupied."
>
>"Oh how nice, the hard-working man took some time for his child."
>
>
>It comes mostly from well-intentioned but insensitive older women, 
>so maybe my sons won't have to deal with it.  
>

How true. Most of what I get is from the same group of people. Not all
are insensitive, BUT..... my daughter and I DO have to deal with it 
and I wish we didn't. I don't think it does anything positive for her
or the image she has of her father. 

>Don
>-- 
>beaver@cs.psu.edu                       Opinions from the PC-challenged


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From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: John Schulte
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:53:24 GMT

This is unbelievable! This is a witch hunt! Somehow we've got to make
these kinds of abuses, abuses of fatherhood by vindictive spouses,
the next media "glamor issue".


Does anyone mail this stuff to Geraldo, Merv Griffin or whoever those
news magazine talkshow hosts are? This eventually *will* be a hot media
topic, since the media is always looking for emotionally charged issues
to boost ratings etc. One would think that TV's talking heads would
jump at an opportunity to be the one who gets the credit for launching
the issue. Larry King? Oprah?

Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Opinions wanted on pursuing criminal charges against spouse
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:00:43 GMT

During the period of initial separation, when things were at their worst,
I decided to try and get my wife criminally prosecuted. The charges were
assault and battery and making false charges to the police.

I have a Show Cause hearing scheduled for next week. Both my current lawyer
and my previous lawyer think it's a very bad idea to go ahead with the hearing.
They both told me as soon as the District Court sees that there is a divorce/
custody going on concurrently in Family Court, they will throw me out.

Does anyone have any opinion on _this_? 

My reasons for attempting to do this were two-fold. First, I didn't want her
to get away with what she did to me, quite simply. I thought, and still
think, that a person shouldn't be allowed to get away with falsely criminalizing
someone; and since she had the temerity to get a restraining oerder on me
at the time of separation, I felt more than justified in pursuing prosecuting
her for her physical abuse of me, which _is_ a crime.

The second reason was that, after much sober reflection, I began to realize
the inevitability of a really nasty divorce/custody, and if I didn't have
something to wave at the court when we get to the nasty business, I'd be 
kicking myself. That is, when she comes up with her claims of abuse, I could
*at least* say "Look, she abused me. I even tried to get her prosecuted...".

So anyway, that's my rational. 

My lawyer is persuading me into taking a conciliatory position to give
me the best chance of getting joint custody. (He puts my chances at getting
sole custody at 10%, which I think is realistic since she was the primary
care provider during the marriage -- she didn't have a job -- and she has
temporary custody now, 50 miles away.) Obviously to try and file criminal
charges will probably have a fatal effect on trying to convince the court
tha both parents are capable of cooperation so joint custody is feasible.

So does anyone have an opinion on this? Can anyone corroborate the claim
that yes I will be throen out of District Court at the Show Cause hearing?
Is it worth it to take the gamble?

BTW, I'm also considering split custody (2 children here).

Thanks for listening
--Mark
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights
From: marks@igor.tamri.com (Mark Sequerth)
Subject: KRON, Bay Area, News, DEADBEAT DADS
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:25:20 GMT

Tonight on channel four, KRON, they are doing a special on
'Deadbeat Dads'.  The advertisement I heard on the Radio was
insulting.  The ad quoted figures about how fathers just abandon
their children, the figure that was quoted, was surprisingly close 
to the total estimate of children from single parent homes in which
the "mom" has custody.

I intend to watch it, record it, take careful notes, and if what 
I suspect is true, they will 'Deadbeat Dad Bash' for 10 or 15 minutes 
because it is a "Politically correct" thing to do.  I will call the 
station in the morning to ask them why the mothers who withhold visitation
are not looked upon as criminals.  

It's starting to sound like the Geraldo show, and this is the "news".
Tabloid news,  It must be sweeps week.

Mark
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights
Subject: Re: - A questionable book on Custody
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:57:29 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>     In case no one knew about this, there is a book that exists (don't
> count on finding it in ***ANY*** library, not even LOC) called "Preparing
> For Child Custody Cases" in which its readers are coached to committ
> PURGERY in the Courtroom in order to gain custody!  Isn't this absolutely
> apalling?!
> 

Less appalling than a court system which actively encourages false claims,
requiring that people meet a 'standard' which doesn't come close to their
circumstances, or the record the courts have for equitable distribution of
custody and enforcement of visitation.

I don't agree with the strategy, but I can understand it.

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA 
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: thanks for the input
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:23:37 GMT


Just wanted to thank all the people who responded to my posts. I'm not able
to respond personally to everyone so here it is:

Thanks!

Based on the input, I've pretty much decided to fight for sole custody.
I'm still unsure on whether or not I should pursue the criminal charges.

My lawyer has not been straightforward with me. He's been trying to convince
me that we should "fight" for joint legal custody, which I've come to realize
(thanks to virtually everyone's input) is a crock of %$#^. 

If I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down swinging...

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.test
From: dave@helix.ObjecTime.on.ca (David Daoust)
Subject: as the group name suggests!
Organization: ObjecTime Limited
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 21:27:46 GMT

1


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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: liz@engin.umich.edu (Elizabeth Zaenger)
Subject: testing
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 10:55:33 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: caen

limited distribution
tseting
testing

Newsgroups: alt.test
From: duggbill@ux1.isu.edu (Bill Duggan,Bus(10) B-24d,2499,)
Subject: Re: nroll
Reply-To: duggbill@ux1.isu.edu (Bill Duggan,Bus(10) B-24d,2499,)
Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello, ID (USA)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:16:27 GMT


In a previous article, iikfe01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Walter Felscher) says:

>de!mailserv!iikfe01
>From: iikfe01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Walter Felscher)
>Subject: nroll
>Message-ID: <nroll.721135407@sunkin>
>Summary: nroll
>Keywords: nroll
>Sender: news@softserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (News Operator)
>Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
>Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:23:27 GMT
>Lines: 1
>
>
>

Newsgroups: alt.test
From: hb003b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ( haim yigal bodek)
Subject: Suggestions for semiotics 
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:10:55 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.test
From: kerm@mercury.ncat.edu (Cary Burnette)
Subject: Test
Organization: North Carolina A&T State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:05:23 GMT

This is another test.


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From: trmakuu@uta.fi (Marjo Kuusto)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: This ISN'T working, I tell you
Summary: still a test
Keywords: test
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:27:09 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

I've been testing for this posting
thing for seventy seven years, would
you believe this. I could write anything
because nobody's going to read it anyways.

Well done Blue Jays!!!
From: jim@wintermute.fullerton.edu (Jim O'Dell)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: test - please ignore
Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:03:13 -0800
Organization: California State University at Fullerton
Distribution: ca
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From: taljundi@cl07.cnde.iastate.edu (Taher Aljundi)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:07:00 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: anonymous@engin.umich.edu 
Subject: Test
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:22:50 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: umich
Originator: dprice@ocher.engin.umich.edu

This is only a test...

Newsgroups: alt.test
From: ned@carson.u.washington.edu (Shawn Morgan)
Subject: TEST
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:56:04 GMT


HI this is where a stupid sig goes, no witty comment.

This is a test.



Newsgroups: alt.test
From: tcrook@u.cc.utah.edu (Tom Crook)
Subject: yat
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:20:50 GMT

yet another test

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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: swill@shelley.u.washington.edu (Steve Williams)
Subject: Uhm, a test, yeah, sure.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:38:22 GMT

Test me NOW!
Now, friggin thing.
.
From: jbright@
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: test
Keywords: sorry, just testing
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:44:12 GMT
Reply-To: jbright@ ()
Distribution: ny
Organization: Xerox
Originator: jbright@vega

Pleas ignore. Testing

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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: jbs4930@usl.edu (Scott Jeffrey B)
Subject: Pez - yet another test
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: BSS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:27:06 GMT


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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: bbousman@clepsydramuse.rockwell.com (Brian Bousman)
Subject: A test of course
Keywords: test
Reply-To: bbousman@clepsydramuse.rockwell.com (Brian Bousman)
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:25:49 GMT

This is a test.  (Well, what else did you expect?)

-----------------
Brian Bousman - bbousman@zeus.muse.rockwell.com

Rockwell International - Where Science Gets Down To Business
From: SYSADMIN@johnxus.frontiertech.com (System Administration User)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: test 5
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:36:21 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: johnxus.frontiertech.com

dddd
From: clausb@hpbeo20.bbn.hp.com (Claus Brod)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 18:36:44 GMT
Subject: Tin Machine
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division R&D, Boeblingen, Germany
Newsgroups: alt.test
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Wonder if tin can do that one ...


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Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia) SPAIN
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 13:34:49 EST
From: <BELLVER@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject:    prova

Hola, no mes es una prova.
Hola
 no mes
 es
una prova
From: r.lightwood@trl.oz.au (Liron Lightwood)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Organization: What organization?  I don't see any organization!

test

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Newsgroups: alt.test
From: nish@cv4.chem.purdue.edu (Nishantha I.)
Subject: test
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:06:04 GMT

test
.
From: davechac@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stealth Dave)
Newsgroups: alt.test
Subject: test2
Date: 11 Nov 1992 06:01:42 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Yet Another Test

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Newsgroups: alt.test,harvard.test
Subject: please ignore... testing JJ
From: on@husc10.harvard.edu (Ahmad On)
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:18:27 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

please ignore
just testing...



just testing...
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From: notes@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#notes sub-system)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 14:23:38 GMT
Subject: Test from Boeblingen
Organization: Hewlett-Packard GmbH
Newsgroups: alt.test

This is a little test. I am not sure if our basenotes are distributed
all over the world.

Best greetings from Boeblingen 

                  Peter Raster, HP GmbH, praster@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.test
From: violiiir@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ross Violi III)
Subject: testing
Keywords: ross
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:53:54 GMT

i
in case of fire use flame to light cigarette...