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From: ipeattie@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Peattie)
Subject: Richard Thompson Lyrics Wanted
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:16:32 GMT

On his last tour Richard Thompson did a new song, which may have been
called "Beeswing".  It was about a man who falls in love with a girl,
but she wants to be free.  The chorus went something like:-

	She was a rare thing, fine as a beeswing,
	So fine a breath of wind might blow her away.
	She was a lost child, she was running wild,
	She said as long as there's no price on love I'll stay.
	And you wouldn't want me any other way.

If anyone knows this song could they please, please, please, send
me a copy of the lyrics,  and if anyone has a tape of it I would
also be very interested.

Thanx.

Ian
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From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Subject: Dr. Strangely Strange
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:30:03 GMT

I just saw a re-issued cd of the band  the other day .I heard that Robin
Williamson  (from The Incredible Sring Band) played with them .
Is this worth buying?????
It costs 10.49 (Irish pounds)
Thanks for any info in advance,
                               Peter Lemass.
From: becca@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Rebecca M Hendrick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Pasty Montana
Date: 8 Oct 1992 16:18:56 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
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Originator: becca@convex.csd.uwm.edu

I asked this question on rec.music.country.western and, surprisingly,
did not get a response.  It occurs to me that the folks on music.folk 
may be a little more knowledgeable about such things.  Anyway...

I'm looking for info on an old C&W singer named Patsy Montana.  I know
she was the first woman to sell a million in the C&W category, and
I know she has a relatively new recording out (88 or so?) that is
produced (?) by another woman named Cathy Fink(?) from Blue Rose (?).

(Blue Rose is a country swing/blue grass band?)

I'd like a little history on Patsy and maybe a discography with a 
description of the quality/character of each LP.  What's still
available and what's on CD?

Thanks in advance.

Becca


Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Steeleye Span Song
Summary: The word "rood" has two meanings
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:46:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

In the dictionaries I've seen, the word "rood" has two meanings.
One is cross, as a crucifix, especially the one on a certain
crossbar somewhere in churches (sorry, I'm not up on church
architectural terminology).  The other is a unit of length.  I
think it was the latter that is meant in the song.
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From: wagner@unity.cs.umn.edu (Paul Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson - "President McKinley"
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:54:03 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

>Nathan Tenny (tenny@euclid.uucp) writes:
>
>NT> In the liner notes to the Robert Johnson collection, someone
>NT> mentions that Johnson, before he recorded, used to play something
>NT> called "President McKinley," "a slide song derived from 'Frankie
>NT> and Johnny.'"  Has anything about this song survived---did anyone
>NT> else record it, or anything?
>NT> 

A recent recording was made by that great blues/bluegrass band,
Boiled in Lead :-) (can't remember offhand if it's on 'From the Ladle
To the Grave' or on 'Orb').

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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Indoctrination of the Young: Bawdy Lyrics
Date: 7 Oct 1992 15:38:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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There's a whole book of this stuff called THE EROTIC MUSE.
Great stuff, but don't let the PC folkies ketch ye
singing these , folks.
-- 
Ted....
From: sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Postcrypt Cafe at Columbia U.
Date: 14 Oct 1992 22:01:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu

In article <Bw4npI.6zx@max.physics.sunysb.edu> danube@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Dan Koller*) writes:
#>     I have been told that the person who runs the Postcrypt Cafe at
#>Columbia University has an E-mail account somewhere.  If anybody knows
#>it, please forward it to me.  Some friends and I would like to know
#>what's going on there via E-mail if possible.
#>     Thanks.
#>						Danube

I was surprised to hear that the Postcrypt is still going. I
think it started around 25 years ago when I was a student at
Columbia. I recall that Dave Bromberg (class of '67) used to
play there in those days. I think he used to ask the audience
to suggest topics and then come up with a new song on the spot.

Steve Goldfield
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
Subject: Holy Rood was: Re: Steeleye Span Song
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:56:50 GMT
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Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <CC.92Oct12175150@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:

>That's certainly the meaning I'm familiar with.  Here in Edinburgh the old
>royal palace, Holyrood Palace, and the ruined abbey in the palace grounds,
>Holyrood Abbey, are named after a fragment of the Holy Cross (Holy Rood)
>which an old Scottish king supposedly found stuck on the end of a deer's
>antler when he was out hunting one day.
Inquiring Minds Want to Know:
  How, pray tell, did the Scottish king recognize a piece of the True
Cross when he came across it on a deer's antler?
  
(for that matter, where did the phrase "inquiring minds want to know"
come from?)


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From: europa@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (r.j.capik)
Subject: Any folk MIDI stuff out there?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:00:57 GMT
Keywords: music, folk, MIDI, FTP

Hi,

The subject line just about says it all. I've looked
at a few FTP sites, and none of them seem to have any
folk stuff. 
I don't happen to have a guitar, just a keyboard, and
I'd like to get some music I can sing along with.
(I need the practice.) 

Ron Capik  at: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ     lotus@hogpe.att.com
From: colin@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Colin Matheson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Ray Fisher
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:24:23 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <s0319198.6.0@let.rug.nl> s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink) writes:

>Does anybody know if (or when) the Scottish singer Ray Fisher is coming to 
>Europe?

There's a Scottish Folk Festival tour planned in Germany from the
middle of January for about 3 weeks, and Ray Fisher is one of the
acts.  The others are the Wrigley sisters (from Orkney), Blair Douglas
and Arthur Cormack with Mary-Anne Kennedy (from Skye), and Ceolbeg.

If anyone is interested, I'll post a tour itinerary when I get it.  I
can personally recommend the tour set-up as I took part this year
along with Cathy-Anne McPhee, Sileas, and Phil Cunningham and John
Martin, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Colin
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From: jim@teclogic.wa.com (Jim Newberry)
Subject: Re: LOST WORLD STRING BAND; Where are they??????
Organization: Tech*Logic, Inc. Woodinville, WA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:09:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.202545.19968@lsa.umich.edu> m713@hosp.med.umich.edu writes:
>
>When I lived in Boston I saw a band called the Lost World String Band.
>They were from Michigan. I live in Michigan now are they still
>around?

I was learning my music in the late 70's when the Lost World
String Band was still active.  What a bunch of fun guys (fungis?)!
They are scattered around the state now and mostly not performing.
They made two records, both available at Elderly Instruments in
Lansing, if available anywhere.

I've heard many, many bands since but few could be as entertaining
as that bunch of lunatics.

I can still remember some of their, er, less than respectful performances
of pop classics like Gerald Ross' improvized:

"...."
"You sat down on the couch,
 A rusty spring made you say ouch,
 A tetnus shot for you...
 And then you had to spoil it all,
 By saying something stupid like 
 I love you..."
 
"...." 
"Then I saw you standing there,
 I dropped a match in to your hair,
 It smelled like glue. 
 And then you had to spoil it all,
 By saying something stupid like 
 I love you..."

Jim
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From: cst@bork.nist.gov (Charles S. Tarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: another odd word
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:36:27 GMT


Since we're increasing our vocabularies, I thought I'd ask about the
Silly Sisters song, "Doffin' Mistress".  I've looked up doff in a few
dictionaries, and all I've found is the current meaning, to err.  I
presume from context that it has something to do with weaving, but if
anyone could verify this, it would ease my mind.

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From: carl.pedersen@dartmouth.edu (L. Carl Pedersen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.afro-latin,rec.music.misc`
Subject: Tony Bird concert Oct 16 in Hanover, NH
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:41:09 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Spend an evening in Africa on Friday, October 16th. That's when Tony Bird
will make his third annual concert appearance in Hanover, New Hampshire
(USA).

Tony Bird's powerful lyrics and exotic guitar rhythms evoke images of his
native Africa: San hunters track kudu in the desert using the stars as
their guides; monkeys vie with humans for possession of the luscious mango;
and a lone white man offers an apology for the misery inflicted by his
race. This is a sampling of the subject matter of "Sorry Africa", Tony's
third and most recent album. But the real joy of a Tony Bird concert is the
chance it provides to hear some of the dozens of extraordinary songs Tony
has never recorded on an album.

Born in Malawi in southeast Africa, Tony attended school in Zimbabwe and
lived and performed in South Africa and England before moving to New York.
His themes are global in nature, centering on people's relationships with
the Earth and with each other. Comparisons between Tony Bird and Bob Dylan
are inevitable, especially since both performers juxtapose political
messages with light-hearted humor. But unlike Dylan, Tony Bird is still at
the peak of his songwriting ability, and Tony will still perform solo in a
small coffeehouse, accompanying himself on a weather-beaten acoustic
guitar. Simultaneously picking melody and tapping out percussion, Tony
fills the room with a distinctly African rhythm. Don't miss this warm and
engaging performer! Concert time is 8 pm; the location is the Hanover
Friends Meetinghouse, 43 Lebanon Street, Hanover, New Hampshire, between
Hanover High School and the Coop Food Store. Tickets are $8.50.
Reservations are recommended; call Jamie Hess at 802-649-3696 to reserve a
seat.

[If you come to this concert as a result of seeing this electronic posting,
please tell someone at the door.  Thanks.]
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From: mhessman@world.std.com (Mark D Hessman)
Subject: Leo Kottke
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:19:57 GMT

Having seen glancing references to LK and his music recently, I thought
now would be a fine time to jump in here...

I discovered Leo Kottke's album "My Father's Face" last spring and
instantly loved it. The lyrics are nicely witty and nicely skewed, the
guitaristry is intricate and compelling, and his voice isn't even as
bad as I'd been led to believe it was. Does anybody have recommendations
about what I should pick up next? What do you folks consider his best
album(s)? And is there anything of his that I should stay away from?

                                                           -- Mark
From: indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: another odd word
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:48:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


What a weird coincidence...the San Jose Mercury News crossword
puzzle had "doff" as the answer to "Remove one's hat" just 
yesterday, shortly after I read about it on here.

Adam

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From: revans@uspi2.Prime.COM (Robbin Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin?
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:31:11 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.

In article <15283@claris.com>, wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey) writes:
> According to the last "to-be-released" list I saw, Shawn's new album (Fat
> City) was supposed to be released Oct. 6.  Did the release date slip again,
> or is my local Tower just not with it?
> 

The album's release date slipped again.  Last word from a friend who
works in a music store and spoke with someone from Sony is that the album
isn't due out until the 27th of October.  There's an article about
Shawn in this week's Billboard magazine.

/Robbin
revans@uspi2.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson - "President McKinley"
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:02:42 GMT

In article <FRTisB1w164w@mtcons.almanac.bc.ca>, johnnie@mtcons.almanac.bc.ca (John Wilkinson) writes:
|> bosak@netcom.com (Jon Bosak) writes:
|> 
|>    From The Folksingers Wordbook
|> 
|>    McKinley hollered, McKinley squalled,
|>    The Doc said, McKinley, I can't find the cause.
|>    You're bound to die-bound to die
|> 
|>    Oh it's look here you rascal see what you done
|>    You shot my husban and I got your gun
|>    I'm takin' you back to Washington
|> 
       etc.
|> 
|> I also have a song of the same name in another book. The notes say
|> it was derived from this song but has lyrics about Hoover. It also
|> says the melody is recycled and has been used in such songs as
|> "The Battleship of Maine" and "Crazy War"
|> 
I have a CD Anthology of some of Bill Monroes work which includes a VERY 
up tempo version of this song ... bluegrass style of course.  Great tune.  

|> ..John Wilkinson

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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Steeleye Span Song
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:37:55 GMT

In article <CC.92Oct12175150@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.132747.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> tinag@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>
>   I could be way off here, but in an Old English course I did--well, 
>   half-did--a couple of years ago, we studied an OLD poem called
>   The Dream of the Rood.  In that poem, 'rood' translated as cross.
>
>That's certainly the meaning I'm familiar with.  Here in Edinburgh the old
>royal palace, Holyrood Palace, and the ruined abbey in the palace grounds,
>Holyrood Abbey, are named after a fragment of the Holy Cross (Holy Rood)
>which an old Scottish king supposedly found stuck on the end of a deer's
>antler when he was out hunting one day.

In San Luis Obispo, a small town on the California coast, there's a
group of Morris dancers called the Holy Rood Morris Men.  If the double
meaning isn't Holy Obvious, it would become so if you ever saw these
guys in action.

While "Rood" undoubtedly means the Cross, it's extremely unlikely that
it has that meaning in the context of "The Weaver and the Factory Maid."
For one thing, however unlikely it might be that the itinerant weaver
is carrying around a set of underwear ("small clothes"), it's an order
of magnitude more unlikely that he's carrying around the True Cross.
For another thing, he's carrying "roods", plural, and, unversed
in Christian lore as I may be, I'm fairly sure there was only one
of 'em.  For a third thing, the "measure of cloth" meaning of "rood"
was established by someone quoting the OED; I'm convinced.

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From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: new british isles/cel
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:01:39 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 10-07-92 KEN JOSENHANS wrote:

KJA few folks mentioned the new June Tabor album -- ANGEL TIGER (Cooking
KJVinyl COOKCD 049) -- which was advertised in the the September issue
KJof the UK magazine FOLK ROOTS.  There were quite a few other new
KJreleases of interest mentioned in that issue; now that September is over
KJI suppose I should get around to keying them in...
KJI'd be interested in reviews of any of these items, and I don't have
KJinformation about US availability in most cases.

I got the June Tabor disk, on the strength of the good review in
Folk Roots and my delight at her earlier recordings. It's been
quite a disappointment. Background music.

KJThe Barely Works, GLOW  (Cooking Vinyl COOK CD050).

Not yet out in US, but Green Linnet recently released _Don't Mind
Walking_. Spirited, wonderful mix of brass with traditional
instrumentation, fully refreshing.

KJThe Albion Band, RISE UP LIKE THE SUN  (EMI).  CD reissue with four
KJ     bonus tracks, one written by Richard Thompson.

Can't wait for this on CD, esp. with the extra tracks. Just got a
English import CD reissue of the Albion Dance Band's _I Got New
Shoes_ from 1988. This recording jumps! Includes the great
Hutchings/Beer composition "You Ain't Natalie Wood and I Ain't
James Dean."



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jacob@cs.swarthmore.edu (Jacob Mattison)
Subject: Re: The Story
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:37:41 GMT

cimo@cs.montana.edu (Bob Cimikowski) writes:


>I think there has been some chatter on the network before about the
>female duo The Story, but I forgot what was said about them.  Can
>anyone recommend them?  What about their album "Grace in Gravity?"
>Is it worth getting?  I've heard the music of Disappear Fear and don't
>care for it very much.  How does The Story compare with them?  Better,
>or about the same?

>Thanks.

I've consistently been the big booster of The Story on this newsgroup, so
why stop now?  I think they're great.  I'm not, sadly, familiar with Disappear
Fear.  I would describe The Story as a cross between Indigo Girls and 
Suzanne Vega.  Interesting harmonies and strange, ethereal lyrics.  I like 
the album a lot, but I knew all the songs on it from live shows, which 
probably helps- they're even better live.

The album is now quite widely available- I believe they're now being 
distributed by Elektra instead of the small CT label they were with.
I highly recommend it.
                                                 Jacob
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From: swf@teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Eppie Morrie" (was Re: Indoctrination of the Young: Bawdy Lyrics)
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:19:47 GMT
Reply-To: swf@tdat.teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit

In article <1992Oct5.153913.6780@st-andrews.ac.uk> rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson) writes:
|There are some which are 'bawdy' in the sense of not exactly
|describing fornication or other rude things but using some kind of metaphor
|- say weaving or piping or cuckoos nests - to obliquely refer to the
|subject. ...

In this respect I rather like the song "Ups and Downs" (I think that is the
title) on the Steeleye Span album 'Parcel of Rogues'.

The phrase "We both jumped on together" has had about three different
meanings by the end of the song!  (One of which is the sort of metaphor
you mentioned, but in another verse it just means they climbed into the
wagon together).

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From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: attention JOEL BIRKELAND
Date: 9 Oct 1992 13:00:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Howdy Joel,
	I tried to reply to your e-mail, but it bounced back
twice. Let me know if there's another address I should try.

My apologies for the waste of bandwidth.

Anyhow, thanks for the lyrics-- if you could send the rest,
I'd be most grateful... esp. the verse that begins "with
words intent..."

Thanks again.  :)

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