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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re:  Songs from the Victorious City [Was Art of Noise]
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:56:59 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <kbennett.721351371@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes:
>
>>I think Anne and JJ parted company after Below the Waste. Anne and some other
>>bloke did an album about a year ago, something to do with pyramids. Either the
>>music was about pyramids, or it had pyramids on the cover (could be both, *who
>>*knows*???)
>
>Tht was Songs From the Victorious City, with Jaz Coleman of Killing Joke,
>which was based on musical themes they heard during a trip to Cairo.
>
>I was interested in listening to it but never got around to picking up
>a copy....  Anyone recommend it?
>
>Lena

Its ok, more like listening to a classical film score than a collection of songs, it seems more influenced by Anne than Jaz too.
I would give it about 4/10
calv

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From: scocjk@thor.cf.ac.uk (Christopher Kyle)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Smiths Top 10
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:34:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
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Hey!!! I'm not having much response here. Get your Smiths votes in
now!!!!

For those of you who missed it, send in your top 3:

	Smiths songs (singles or album tracks)
	Smiths albums

and optionally

	Smiths Lyrics (just name the song, don't quote)
	Smiths artwork (singles/album covers)

And get to me soon....

Cheers       
Chris

"I was looking for a job and then I found a job
 And heaven knows I'm miserable now"
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: buccidv@expert.cc.purdue.edu (david bucci)
Subject: Re:Smashing Pumkins
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:20:25 GMT


BIG PROBLEM!!

Smashing  Pumkins are NOT from Seattle like every other newly discovered
band.  They are from Chicago! Get you r facts straight. You are misinformed.


Buy all their albums. They are THE greatest band in the universe!@!!!!!!!!!
From: chris@Vaduz.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Spacemen 3.
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:40:25 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: vaduz.docs.uu.se

In article <pftzgrld.720952791@unix2.tcd.ie>, pftzgrld@unix2.tcd.ie (FUNGUS FROM YUGGOTH) writes:
> Could anyone send me a complete discography for Spacemen 3 ? Also I
> would appreciate any comments about which of their albums are worth
> getting ? I recently purchased Recurring and its quite good.
>  Finnally does anyone know what Sonic Boom is up to now ? Is he still
> with Silvertone ? Is he still alive even ?

He has a band called Spectrum which has released one album ("Soul Kiss
(Glide Divine)") and two singles ("How You Satisfy Me" and "True Love
Will Find You In The End").  All records are well worth buying.

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
From: mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:07:08 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Anybody knows of any albums from the seattle group 'Smashing Pumpkins'.



Smashing Pumpkins are from Chicago.

They have one full lp out called Gish, which is absolutely incredible.



Mike Walker                |The bigger the cushion'
mw5e@andrew.cmu.edu        |The sweeter the pushin'
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: krady@maths.tcd.ie (Keith Brady)
Subject: Re: Is Therapy? good live?
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:28:29 GMT

mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>Has anyone seen Therapy live?  Are they worth seeing?

They're brilliant. I saw them play at the Trinity Ball this year and they
just blew me away (this in competition with a lot of good music). It's
completely bullshit/posturing/stadium-shit free and really invigorating
(at least it was then). 

Don't miss them.

Keith

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: schwager@mike.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Re: what do you mean formerly of the the
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:08:21 GMT

poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy) writes:

>is matt johnson still in the the ?  what is the the without matt johnson

I have a feeling the "formerly with" part came about because it's always so
long between The The releases, and people always start asking if The The is
still around about 2 years after their last album.  Right on time :-).

However, if anyone has more knowledge than I, I'd be pleased to be
corrected.
-Mike  (The The fan since way back in 1983)
aka, Mike Schwager               |"I will never apologize for the United States
INTERNET:schwager@cs.uiuc.edu    | of America, ever.  I don't care what the
Bye, George!!!                   | facts are."  -George Bush
University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., for whom I do not speak
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: MORRISSEY POLL LATEST.
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:13:03 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Remember, there are two polls currently running.  One is The Smiths which is
being done by Chris who's E-mail address is elsewhere on the newsg and I'm
running a Morrissey poll.  The response to Chris' poll hasn't been too good, so
please get your votes in as soon as possible.  The Morrissey poll is still to
run for a couple of weeks yet, so here's a reminder of the categories.

    1. Best Song.
    2. Best LP
    3. Best Lyric
    4. Best Record Cover.
    5. Best Quote
    6. Best Ambiguous Racist Comment.

Vote for 3 in each category.

In case you're interested, here's how the results stand at the moment:

BEST SONG

1. Picadilly Palare
2. Last of the Famous International Playboys
3. Every Day is Like Sunday
4. Ouija Board, Ouija Board
5. Suedehead
6. November Spawned A Monster
7. Our Frank
8. At Amber
9. I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday
10. Disappointed.

BEST LP

1. Your Arsenal
2. Bona Drag
3. Kill Uncle
4. Viva Hate.

BEST SLEEVE

1. Viva Hate
2. Our Frank
3. Your Arsenal
4. Pregnant For The Last Time
5. Last of the Famous International Playboys.

BEST AMBIGUOUS RACIST COMMENT

1. "The National Front Disco"
2. "Reggae is Vile"
3. "I don't hate Pakistanis, I just dislike them greatly"
4. "Shelve your Western plans/Life is hard enough when you belong here"
5. "Asian Rut".


That's how things are looking at the moment.  Also running is a Best of 92
Poll, the results of which will be made public next week.  
See Ya For Now, Pop Kids and GET VOTING!
From: ubjta41@ucl.ac.uk (Mr A Nix)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: NEW RAYS
Summary: handlebar moustache
Keywords: treehouse
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:26:45 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

Anyone heard of a group called the NEW RAYS??
There was a review of them in the Melody Maker in the 
summer calling them the English Buffalo Tom, and I saw
them a few months later at the Bull & Gate in Kentish
Town where they said they were going to release a single
but I've heard nothing since.
Anyone know
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: alt.music.hardcore EXISTS!!
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:51:48 GMT

Finally alt.music.hardcore is up and running. The response has
already been great. 

So if you have any guitar based hardcore thing to discuss, please
cross post to alt.music.hardcore. You know what I mean, bands that
play it loud and heavy, with lots a guitars......

Thanx,

Mark.
From: eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jesus Lizard trivia
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:58:47 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, UK

In article <1drgogINN79a@agate.berkeley.edu> 
                    sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:

>As an interesting and barely related note though - does anyone know the
>story of how Jesus Lizard got their name?  It's actually derived from a
>nickname given to a Hispanic dishwasher in the Chicago area.  Two of
>the band members (I can't remember who - can someone fill me in on this
>one?) worked at a restaurant with a dishwasher named Jesus.  They remarked
>on how his eyes seemed to have slanted pupils, like those of a lizard, and
>they started calling him "Jesus Lizardo" -- hence the name.

Mmmm.  Not to question the accuracy of this story or anything, but the
Jesus Lizard is actually the name of a genuine reptile.  I think it
gets its name from its ability to run across the surface of ponds when
in danger.

Lindsay.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: New King Missile album _Happy_Hour_
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:47:29 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <Uey6jDi00Uh_45VrFv@andrew.cmu.edu> Jeffrey Roger Parenti <jp5d+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>all-

>what is the name of king missile's first 
>album, anyway? on the side of the tape
>is says "king missile (dog fly religion)"
>and it also says "they" and "fluting the hump."
>so which one's the title? and if it's not the
>title of the album, what's "dog fly religion?"

"Fluting on the Hump" is an EP which is included on the cassette.
It is included on the CD of "Mystical Shit"

As far as I know the album is called "They" and I have no fucking idea what
"Dog Fly Religion" is.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister)
Subject: Cocteau Twins Lyrics
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:51:25 GMT

I've studied a while, and came up with a listener's version of the
lyrics to "I wear your ring". Let's work on this a little together
and see if we can agree on what it says.
Remember: This is not official.

Craig

p.s. I think "Fotzepolitic" is also worth decyphering...

Proposed Cocteau Twins Lyrics:
"I wear your ring"
------------------------------
Don't feed them between the sunrise and sunset
Don't panic, key for all the rainy days
You simply run off the turf.
Could be reason, money with your momma
You might be showing around the dress and the cake
Take a twist to then imbibe...

Beutiful heads up no way dyes
A means of love and sounds and go
beloved...
It is written and by reason
Rain or sick, spawn on
Pleased to be, give a good affection new...

Finally finally finally...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re: NoMeansNo
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:31:39 GMT

They were a great band.
From: nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Jesus & Mary Chain Mailing List
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:26:46 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <BxHFCI.41K@acsu.buffalo.edu>, pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Pablo Kang) writes:
> In article <92314.165919APD104@psuvm.psu.edu> APD104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>Does anyone happen to know the mailing list of Jesus and Mary Chain.??
>>If not, then I am looking for people to start a new one...
>>                    Thanks a Lot ...
> 
>   Yeah! If anyone knows it, please post or e-mail (preferrably posting
>   so everyone can see the mailing list). 
> 
>   If there isn't one, please _do_ start one! :-)
> 
> pablo
But how to start one?  I am a new user.  Damn!  I feel so impotent.  I want to
be on the list too if there is any.

Marcus
Address: Nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

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From: v462etnn@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Info wanted --- Red Flag, The Other Two
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov5.195122.21439@news.acns.nwu.edu>, sinn@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Wilson Sinn) writes...
> 
>	Does anyone know when will Red Flag's new album come out?  Their
>single has been out for at least 3 months now.  And also does anyone has
>the followup on The Other Two?  Their single "Tasty Fish" was out for at
>least half a year(maybe longer).
>	Thanx!
>								-Wilson

The Other Two should be out rather soon.  If I recall, it
was slated for a Nov. release in the UK. 

David
Organization: Junior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 18:02:51 -0500 
From: "William J. Gaffey" <wg0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Elvis Costello
	<7VRSBP4X@cc.swarthmore.edu>

Joshua Rosenzweig writes:

>Do you really mean Delbert McClinton?  Or do you really mean Elvis
>Costello's real name, which he's used on some of his recent albums? 
>Because, if you mean the latter, it's not Delbert, but Declan.  (Not to be
>a stickler...)

Also not to be a stickler, his real name is actually Declan Patrick
Aloysius MacManus, not McClinton.  That's someone else, I suppose.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Subject: Re: 4AD - Lonely is an Eyesore
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:11:44 GMT

jdrage@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (your humble friend and narrator) writes:

>In article <u882517.721019660@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!) writes:
>> 	Colurbox, Dif Juz and This Mortal Coil are defunct (but did not
>> sign to another label), and the rest are all still on 4AD apart from the
>> exceptions, (Clan of) Xymox and Cocteau Twins (Fontana)! 
>> 	Where did you get your information?

>Where did YOU get your information?  Cocteau Twins have been releasing under a
>4AD / Capitol joint venture for the last couple of years (not under Fontana).
>This Mortal Coil released _Blood_ last year, and will always be around as long
>as the 4AD record label exists (the band is actually just random members of
>various 4AD bands.  Dif Juz have always hated doing studio work, and mainly play
>live, but managed to release _Huremics_, and _Extractions_ (which the CD contains
>part of _Huremics_).

	Sorry, you should have checked more accurately.  The 4AD/Capitol deal
was US only...their record company was still 4AD (only) in the UK until they
left in 1991.  They are now signed to Fontana, but haven't released any new
material since they signed.
	_Blood_ was the last This Mortal Coil project (Ivo said this
in every interview at that time:"...(Nothing But) Blood" is their epitaph)
and TMC are definitely NOT just random members of 4AD bands (the first album
was, with less on _Filigree and Shadow_ and only Kim Deal and Tanya Donelly on
_Blood_, excluding Heidi Berry who did an album for 4AD *after* _Blood_).
It was a loose collective of musicians selected by Ivo and John Fryer to work
on their musical ideas.  Ivo has said he will do more projects, but the 
forthcoming box set is the definitive TMC summary.
	The track on _Lonely is an Eyesore_ was the last Dif Juz recording
released, and after five years it's at least *tempting* to describe them as 
defunct...I haven't seen any live dates advertised in the UK press, either.
Before that the last stuff was _Extractions_, which is now seven years old.

	Be warned.  I am a 4AD freak, so I KNOW these things...

		(This would be a smiley except I don't like them...peace!)

				Matthew.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Spacemen 3.
From: slam@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:06:57 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

>  Finnally does anyone know what Sonic Boom is up to now ? Is he still
> with Silvertone ? Is he still alive even ?
Sonic Boom has formed Spectrum, which released an album a couple of months ago. 
The album displays a whole lot more slow-paced stuff than does Pierce's
Spiritualized.  It is, in fact, really on the heavy, moody side.    
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hyang1@cc.swarthmore.edu (yang)
Subject: Throwing Muses Mailing List info request
Organization: Swarthmore 
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:42:24 GMT

Help!  I need info on how to get on the Muses' E-Mailing list.  Please post
info if you have it.  

Thanks a million.

-Hoser




Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: terpstra@trout.cis.ohio-state.edu (michael douglas terpstra)
Subject: Toad the Wet Sprocket lyrics
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:24:14 GMT


	I was wondering if any Toad fans know the lyrics to the beginning of
the song "Know Me" from the _Bread and Circus_ album....

	I know there is an ftp site for the lyrics, but have misplaced the
name.  If you could send that info along, I would appreciate it.


				Later,


				Chris Thacker (using a friend's terminal)
From: plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Sonic Youth.
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:48:28 GMT
Organization: Clark University

sure, ill take the promo.
clarku
950 main st.
box 1695
worcester,ma.
01610-1477
From: mcp@canctr.mc.duke.edu (Laura J. Weislo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Why I hate Sinead
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:12:45 GMT
Reply-To: mcp@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <BxJDqI.HFv@acsu.buffalo.edu>, feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.152721.17813@panix.com> jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:>(I said:)



>
>Look, in the US alone, four women a day are killed by men, and every
>18 seconds a woman is battered. I was sexually attacked by 2 older
>boys when I was 10, and fought them off. I was raped by a stranger
>with a gun (with a fucking gun!) when I was 21. These are things many
>of my friends do not know about me, because I don't mention them much.
>Every day, every woman is harrassed or catcalled or worse.  There is
>no sense of freedom. We cannot walk alone at night, or even jog alone
>in broad daylight!
>
>DO NOT TELL ME I DO NOT KNOW WHAT OPPRESSION IS.  
>
>Don't EVER fucking tell a woman she does not know what oppression is.
>
			GO ON GIRL!!!!

      			YOU TELL 'EM WOMAN!!!!!

			GIVE THEM HELL!!!!


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Edsel?
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:48:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.015226.4618@rdr.com> randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd) writes:
>
>I heard one track by a band called Edsel on the local we-wish-
>we-were-alternative-but-are-just-a-soulless-sellout radio station  
>(WHFS in Wash. DC) and I was quite impressed.  Unfortunately I've  
>never heard of the band aside from that track.  Then I saw a  
>reference to the band in the cover of Nation of Ulysses' new album,  
>which makes me think that Edsel is a Washington DC local band, or on  
>the Dischord label, or both.  Can anyone help me out?

*----------*

Edsel is indeed a DC area band (I think they may actually be from
Baltimore, but that's close enough).

They have two 7"ers out, one on DeSoto Records and one on Merkin
Records.

They have not released anything on Dischord Records.

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From: lees@waltz.seas.upenn.edu (Sang T Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: NEW PHILLY STATION
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:24:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


      For those who live in the Philadelphia area, Good News.  There is
      a new alternative radio station.  It actually is an expansion of 
      a New York, New Jersey station, but who cares.  They are still in 
      the process of setting up, so the sound quality is not so great yet,
      and songs are repeated fairly often.  From listening for a couple
      of days, there is a lot of variety, so I expected only good things.

      For your information it's 103.9 on the FM dial.

      Sang Lee
      lees@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Tsai)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mary's Danish Question
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1da1sjINNijm@cs.widener.edu> ASHENFELTER@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (BRIAN ASHENFELTER) writes:
>
>	I just got done listening to Mary's Danish latest album "American
>Standard" and was pretty impressed. I saw them on the Tonight Show about a week
>ago (they did "Underwater" and another song) and might go see them in Philly in
>two weeks.  What I was wondering was how long have they been around and how
>many albums do they have? And how do these compare to their lastest?
>
>Thanks,
>Brian