From: chyang@metaphor.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Can we judge CCP based on the bad side only?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:54:43 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@metaphor.engin.umich.edu


In article <1gispcINN1ni@roche.csl.sri.com>, zhnagk@cs.ucdavis.edu (Kui Zhang) writes:

> There's no use to make CCP 100% evil.
> CCP may did a lot of evil things to China, but it is changing because people > > they recruit are changing.

	I sure hope so, I hope the right wingers are educating these new people
so that when it is time to make a break from the CCP, the transistion will 
be peaceful.   Heck!  I'll even join this new party and work with the 
right wingers to show my support. 

	
> 
> I don't want to see the economic disaster happened in Soviet Union to happen in 
> China, even though they got a democracy.

	There's some arguements toward that I have heard that is pretty 
interesting.  In event of Chaos, the inherent characteristic of a people
takes over.  The Russians are very a depressed people according to some
PBS special that I have seen, they are having a hard time dealing with 
this change

	I don't think it will happen to the Chinese because, the Chinese are
in my opinion are inheretently resiliant and capitalistic.  For example at the
eve of WWII, what happened?  How did some Chinese people deal with change.
For those who are lucky enough to leave China and escape from the CCP 
death grip, they have gone to places like HK, Taiwan, Singapore, Indonesia,
US, and many other countries.  Some have started a whole new society and
others have done very very well in foreign societies.  Why, because our 
culture has given us what it takes to survive in the worse of time.

	Why haven't the people in China been sucessful.  To me it is 
pretty clear, if you suppress the underlying "Chineseness" from a Chinese
person, you take away the persons cultural characteristics and that Chinese
"sense", the person will not be able to do well.  That is why, I have been 
arguing that Communism is Anti-Chinese, it's ideal of equality takes away
any incentives to fight and to work hard.  This may be a pretty simple 
arguement, but think about it!  When a you tell a Chinese that no matter
what you do you will never be better off, what is going to happen?  Since
the beginning time as we know it, we have always been taught that if you 
work hard you will achieve wealth and power.  What did Communism do when
it first came, it robbed and killed those who have worked hard all their
lives to achieve success.  Although, I do acknowlege that it did relieve
many suppressed farmers by some evil land owners, but it at the same time
took away any chance for them to succeed by destroying the foundation of
Chinese society.  Chinese people are inherently capitalistic, all we need
is a chance to succeed.  And CCP ain't the answer.  
 
> 
> Maybe I'm too optimistic on this. My theory is that by the time Russia makes it in
> economy, China will be progressing "peacefully" to a democracy while keeping a steady economy.
> 

	Let us hope so.  

> In the mean time, you have to deal with CCP to make China more open, because
> totalitorian govenment won't survive openness.
> A strong hatred certainly won't help.

	Sign...  Sign...  Sign...  Budda or Christ or whoever bless the
Chinese people.  


> There's nothing like black and white in politics. That's what I learned from 
> Marx and Lenin-:).
> 
> 
> .kui
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