From: David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org (David Rice)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Fighting Abuse "Bizarre"
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:34:10 PDT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)

Tag: Bryan O'Sullivan
 
>DR> "In the next few days I'll post a few Clergy Abuse reports.
>DR> What Christians are doing to little boys would make a
>DR> hard-core porno enthusist blush with shame."
 
BO'S> "Is it just me, or do other people also get the impression
BO'S> that Iain Jameson's and David Rice's interests run a little
BO'S> to the bizarre?"
 
Why do you call the study of Christianic abuse "bizarre?" Special
agent Kennith Lanning is in charge of the FBI's child abuse
investigations. Would you also call his interest "bizarre?" The
only way to stop the abuse is to inform potential victims of the
danger; punishing the criminals doesn't prevent abuse--- it
=sometimes= occurs after the abuse has occured.
 
BO'S> "Fellas, if you want to discredit chrisitanity by pointing
BO'S> out the foibles of some of its supposedly repectable members
BO'S> (who are as human as you and I, even if some of them don't
BO'S> care to admit it), then your postings are at best useless
BO'S> since they don't tell us anything that isn't immediately
BO'S> obvious, and are at worst insulting to the christian [sic]
BO'S> readers of this newsgroup through the insinuations you try
BO'S> to make."
 
"Discredit?" Sir, we are talking about real problems here, not some
theological or philosophical academic exercises. There are legions
of victims that believed the myth that leaders in the Christian
community are somehow immune to perpretrating abuse. When found
out, the abusers are invariable sent from one parish to another,
where the abuse continues. Public education may do much to right
this evil pattern.
 
BO'S> If, no the other hand, you're trying to show that by and
BO'S> large, 'celibate' males are more likely to commit abuse
BO'S> than 'normal' ones, then this is not the appropriate group
BO'S> to do it in."
 
As a celibate male (a virgin at 31, due to my extreme uglyness),
I do not consider celibacy to cause abuse, nor have I ever in my
life felt in any way impelled to abuse or molest anyone, girl or
boy, man or woman. However, I might agree with the saying that
"the horny celibate has done the most damage to society throughout
history."
 
BO'S> What I'm trying to say is that Mr. Rice's and Mr. Jameson's
BO'S> posts on this matter come off as irrelevant to atheism or
BO'S> even christianity, and they smell a little of sour grapes
BO'S> to me. Any comments?"
 
As usual, it is up to the individual reader to asses the material
here. There seems to be a tendancy for Christians to abuse and
molest their children much more than any other cult; Jews have
a very low incidence of child abuse compared to all other major
cults such as Christianity.
 
As soon as I get my BBS working again, I'll post a few of the
hundreds of news articles. The California Chriminal Justice
Planning Department made an excellent study of the issue; I'll
post some extracts of that as well.
 
>bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie (Bryan O'Sullivan)
 
D.Rice, B*B


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