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From: iant@teleride.on.ca (Ian Thomson)
Subject: Best Easy to use documentation tools
Organization: Teleride Sage Ltd.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:22:19 GMT

HI Netters,

I am looking for a documentation tool or DTP that has the following features
and runs on UNIX and other platforms.

1. Very easy to use, low learning curve.
2. Must be able to create document templates
3. Postscript output
4. Conditional inclusion/exculsion of text
5. Both WYSIWYG and some sort of tag language 
6. Version for primarly SUN UNIX and other platforms (MAC IBM window)   
7. Cost of not over $4K.


Please send E-Mail or reply to the news group.


Thanx.

Regards,

Ian Thomson
From: ernest@lcmv.med.umn.edu (Ernest Retzel (1535 49118))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Best Easy to use documentation tools
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:33:21 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

>FrameMaker 3.1 (X and OpenLook) for Sun
>FrameMaker 3.1X for other Unix boxes
>FrameMaker 3.1 for Mac
>FrameMaker 3.1 for Windows

>>7. Cost of not over $4K.

>$2500 for Unix floating-license versions (less for node-locked); $795
>for Mac version; $550 for IBM-windows version 

If you are non-profit:

$500 for "Big Unix" [Sun, IBM, HP, Apollo, DEC, etc, except SGI]
$300 for "little Unix" [NeXT]
$200 for Mac and MS-Windows.
Quantity purchases availabe over say, a year, ranging from 10% to 35%
additional discount.

Very powwerful program, and very easy to use.

All disclaimers apply--just a VERY satisfied customer.

Ernie Retzel
ernest@lenti.med.umn.edu
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Best Easy to use documentation tools
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:48:38 GMT
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1992Aug18.163321.9799@news2.cis.umn.edu> ernest@lcmv.med.umn.edu (Ernest Retzel (1535 49118)) writes:
>>FrameMaker 3.1 (X and OpenLook) for Sun
>>FrameMaker 3.1X for other Unix boxes
>>FrameMaker 3.1 for Mac
>>FrameMaker 3.1 for Windows
>
>>$2500 for Unix floating-license versions (less for node-locked); $795
>>for Mac version; $550 for IBM-windows version 
>
>If you are non-profit:
>
>$500 for "Big Unix" [Sun, IBM, HP, Apollo, DEC, etc, except SGI]
>$300 for "little Unix" [NeXT]
>$200 for Mac and MS-Windows.

It's not quite as simple as just "non-profit", at least according to Frame. 
This is the "educational" discount, but to get it you have to be able to prove 
that you are an accredited degree-granting institution with classroom environ-
ments.

We are non-profit, but despite even having graduate students doing thesis
(not course) work here, we could only qualify for what they call their 
"national lab" discount, which is $1000 per Sun etc. floating license. Dunno 
about Mac and NeXT, since we didn't ask.

This is the first vendor we've encountered who made this distinction.
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From: leo@ai.mit.edu (Leonardo C. Topa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: SGI GL library on a Sun
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:02:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: vivaldi.LEO.92Aug18140207
Distribution: comp
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

I think this issue was just discussed, but I can't remember where and
of course I haven't kept that info and now I need it....

Could anybody tell me the name of the company that has ported Silicon
Graphics' GL library to the Sun environment? I seem to recall that
it's built on top of XGL...

Thanks a lot for your replies.
--

Leonardo C. Topa
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Room E25-506
45 Carleton Street
Cambridge, MA 02139

internet: lct@ai.mit.edu
From: kummer@possum.den.mmc.com (Jim Kummer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Does Liken support AppleShare? PAP?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:05:03 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group, Denver

In article <1714@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> jon@prl.philips.co.uk (Jon Piesing) writes:
>Anybody got a contact address for more information on Liken ?
>
>Jon Piesing	( jon@prl.philips.co.uk )
>Interactive Systems Group
>Philips Research Labs, Redhill

Quoting from some literature on the product:
Liken     -   list price $695
Xcelerated Systems        (619)576-3080
3944 Murphy Canyon XC201
San Diego, CA 92123

Distributed by Andataco:  (800)334-9191,  (619)453-9191


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: drl@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (David R. Linn)
Subject: file locking mechanism of OW3 mail
Summary: locking query
Keywords: OpenWindows 3 Mail file locking
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:51:51 GMT

Can anyone give a definitive statement on changes incorporated in the
version of Mail (ucbmail or mailx) that is shipped with OW3?  I have
just switched over to OW3 and seem to be losing mail.  I use procmail
to deliver mail into my home directory and I have actually watched mail
disappear.  Since this was not a problem before the switch to OW3, I
assume that either OW3 Mail or OW3 mailtool is now doing something that
the old version did not do.

On a related topic, does anyone else find the changes in behavior of
OW3 concering disposal of read-but-not-saved mail annoying?  (One must
now explicitly save things to the mbox.)  Can OW3 mailtool be
configured to be more like the OW2 version?

On a less related topic, where is OW3 documentation to be found?  The docs
I have are for OW2.

	 David
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: euaneg@eua.ericsson.se (Nils-Erik.Gustafsson)
Subject: background/foreground colors & Guide
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:36:22 GMT

arch@gandalf.pei.com (Arch Mott) writes:

(zap)

>This works fine for me:

>Window.Color.Background:        blue
>Window.Color.Foreground:        white

This will affect ~all~ windows. To control
a specific one, e.g. the commandtool, seems
to be impossible (except from a command line).

I've tried, in vain, to start DevGuide using
these commands, but to no avail:

guide -Wb 255 255 255 -Wf 0 0 0

guide -bg white -fg black

It defaults to my standard Window.color.background
and ..foreground.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Nils-Erik
From: hsingh@Turing.chem.uh.edu (Harpreet Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Is there any good wordprocessing software available on Sparc
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:11:51 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chemistry


As the title says, I want a wordprocessing similar to 
MS-word, MacWrite etc on the sun running openwindows

Thanks,
Harpreet
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: No fish from realxfishdb
Keywords: realxfishdb, fish_props
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:46:32 GMT

crm182c@bmers245.uucp (Hing-Fai Lee) writes:

>I was just moved to OW3 from OW2. Under $OPENWINHOME/demo there
>is a program called realxfishdb. I ran realxfishdb with command
>line options and also by setting them from fish_props, however
>the only thing I got was the aquarium background with NO fish
>at all. Can someone tell me what is wrong? Thanks in advance.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>- Name:  Hing-Fai Lee   Address: Bell-Northern Research     -
>- Phone: 613-765-2097            P.O. Box 3511, Station C   -
>- FAX:   613-765-4953            Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7    -
>- Email: crm182c@bnr.ca
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>- Disclaimer: I do not speak for BNR nor BNR speaks for me. -
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There is a bug in the distributed version.  Last Spring when I discovered
the problem someone told me there is a non-buggy version on one of the
Catalyst CD Roms.  The delivered one will work with some values.

It has been so long since I ran it I cannot remember whether it will work
with one or two or three fish.  I just looked at my .fishrc file and it does
not make any sense.  I think I ran it with some really weird values to try
and freak out the machine the last time I ran it.

Good luck.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: alan@dragon.acadiau.ca (Alan W. McKay)
Subject: How to create libraries for C and Fortran
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:29:55 GMT

A professor here wants to have his personal library of various math
routines installed on the system (670MP) for use by his students.  As I
understand it, all I need from him is the ".a" file.

He has a copy written in C and one in Fortran, and wants to have both
available on the system.  I am wondering if I can just install one of
them and have it be available to both C and Fortran, or is there
something special that has to be done to allow this?  Is there some
special way the routines have to be written to allow this?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: pete@harps.aero.org (Pete Thomas)
Subject: mount /pcfs
Keywords: DOS diskette SPARCstation
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.apps
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:28:02 GMT

Is it possible for non-root users to mount PC format disks? 

If so, please let me know.

--Pete
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Is there any good wordprocessing software available on Sparc
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:19:35 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Aug14.191151.18015@menudo.uh.edu> hsingh@Turing.chem.uh.edu (Harpreet Singh) writes:
>
>As the title says, I want a wordprocessing similar to 
>MS-word, MacWrite etc on the sun running openwindows

Also DECwrite.  Which is also available on these other platforms in addition to
Sun Sparc: MS Windows, Ultrix, VAX/VMS.  WYSIWYG and all that.  

Also check out DECpresent, also available on these same platforms.  A very nice
presentation software similar to Aldus Persuasion or MS PowerPoint.

Send me mail for more information.  I *may* even be able to get you free
evaluation CDs.

Charles

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From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: background/foreground colors & Guide
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:40:58 GMT
	<1992Aug19.105111.11852@cas.org> <arch.714249008@pei.com>
	<1992Aug20.063622.3933@eua.ericsson.se>
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Aug20.063622.3933@eua.ericsson.se> euaneg@eua.ericsson.se (Nils-Erik.Gustafsson) writes:
   Does anyone have any ideas?


Perhaps You can 
	1) change the defaults 
	echo "blah" | xrdb -merge
	2) start guide
	3) change the defaults pack


or perhaps
	-xrm resource:value
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: doug@med.ge.com (Doug Curtis 5-4240)
Subject: Small SunSolve problem
Reply-To: doug@med.ge.com (Doug Curtis 5-4240)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:59:34 GMT

For those of you who have install SunSolve, but haven't rebooted...
There is a slight problem with the entry added the the /etc/rc.local
file.  Change the following line:

FROM THIS:
if -f [ /usr/SunSolve/bin/rpc.solved ]; then

TO THIS:
if [ -f /usr/SunSolve/bin/rpc.solved ]; then

All three installation options (scripts in _install) have the same bug.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane)
Subject: Re: Is there any good wordprocessing software available on Sparc
Organization: Group Treasury, State Bank of NSW
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:17:24 GMT

cush@glockenspiel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Cush) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.191151.18015@menudo.uh.edu> hsingh@Turing.chem.uh.edu (Harpreet Singh) writes:
>>
>>As the title says, I want a wordprocessing similar to 
>>MS-word, MacWrite etc on the sun running openwindows
>>
>Yes, I would recommend Framemaker.  It is true what you see is what you get 
>(WYSIWYG).    You can contact Devra Learner at 408-428-6106.


>Others include:  Island Write, Paint, and Draw
>		 Wordperfect

If you want a wysiwyg word processor for Suns that looks and works
a LOT like Word (on the Macintosh), take a look at Aster*x. It also has
a graphics editor and spreadsheet built in.
Can't help you with a contact (I only know Australian ones), but it's
on Catalyst 3 if that helps.

Whatever you do, avoid Wordperfect like the plague. I WON a copy (yes,
free) completely by accident and even after that am completely
unimpressed with it. Unless of course you really didn't want a wysiwyg
and enjoy using PCs (because that's exactly what it's like)

Oh, and I don't have anything to do with the people who make/sell Aster*x.
Or Word(im)perfect, but I think you already guessed that.


regards...                                                 
Chris Keane.                  State Bank NSW             ph. +61 2 259 4459
Unix Systems Administrator   (Group Treasury)      chris@rufus.state.COM.AU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: cptully@med.unc.edu (Christopher P. Tully,Pathology,62679)
Subject: Another question: what is SunVision good for?
Reply-To: cptully@med.unc.edu
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:19:56 GMT

I'm starting an image processing project and have a set of programs
which should do what I need, but I'm curiuos about SunVision anyway.
Any opinions as to what it is good/bad for doing, and whether it is
worth the price, would be apperciated.

Please save bandwidth and reply by email.  I will summarize if asked
to.

Thanks in advance, Chris

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From: igor@cae.wisc.edu (Igor Khurgin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Contool bug
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:58:38 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Originator: igor@ws-39.cae.wisc.edu


I found a bug in the contool-3.2b code for openwindows version 3.0.
(the software is copyright 1987-92 by Chuck Musciano and Harris Corp.
 it's a shareware.) The problem is that when they open pseudo-terminal
in the function "open_psuedo_tty" (file misc.c) they forget to test
the availability of the slave side of the pseudo-terminal if they found
available master side. That sometimes causes the function to fail and
therefore contool does not get created. Changed version of the function
is provided below:


EXPORT  char    *open_psuedo_tty(master, m_mode, slave, s_mode)
 
FILE    **master;
char    *m_mode;
FILE    **slave;
char    *s_mode;
 
{       char    *s, *t;
 
        strcpy(path, PATH);
        for (s = LETTERS; *s && *master == NULL; s++) {
           path[L_POS] = *s;
           for (t = DIGITS; *t && *master == NULL; t++) {
              path[D_POS] = *t;
              *master = fopen(path, m_mode);
        if (*master != NULL) {
           path[P_POS] = 't';
           *slave = fopen(path, s_mode);
           if(*slave == NULL) {
              close(*master);
              path[P_POS] = 'p';
             }
           else {
             path[P_POS] = 'p';
             goto out_label ;
             }
          }
        }
       }
out_label:
        return(path);
}

If you more questions about this problem please mail: igor@cae.wisc.edu
From: gt1111a@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: CAE solutions on Sun platform
Date: 16 Aug 92 06:42:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Aug12.190757.178962@cs.cmu.edu> mkb@cs.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell) writes:
>What are the options for electrical design packages on the Sun (under
>either OpenWindows 3.0 or X11R5)? Specifically schematic capture and
>PCB layout. We are currently evaluating ViewLogic bundled with Harris
>SciCards. We're only middling enthused about ViewLogic (but haven't
>had a chance to play with the new PowerView yet). There seems to be
>dozens of cheap packages for DOS machines out there - what's available
>for Suns? Any insights or pointers greatly appreciated.

I've heard Mentor Graphics makes something called IDEA that
does a good job. If you're only having one person work on any project,
PC's are probably okay. Where workstations shine is in big projects
where more than one person will be working on different bits of the
same project. One guy changes the bolt specifications, and drill holes
throughout the airplane change...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: greg@carnivore.tamu.edu (Greg Economides)
Subject: Re: Spell checker for Mailtool ?
Organization: Center for Biosystems Modelling, Texas A&M University
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.012303.22057@leland.Stanford.EDU> jrawles@leland.Stanford.EDU (jody rawles) writes:
>Does anyone know of a spell checker that would correct or atleast
>highlight spelling errors in mailtool?
>
>Sorry if this is in FAQ.  If it is, just tell me where to get FAQ.
>

You could use the unix spell utility.  Highlight all of the text in the
mailtool window (quadruple-click), then, in a cmd/shelltool do:

    xv_get_sel | spell

(this assumes that both xv_get_sel and spell are in your path.  xv_get_sel
is in $OPENWINHOME/bin).

This will print out words that "spell" does not understand.

This method is a bit crude, but it is quick, cheap and dirty.

Peace,
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Texas A&M University
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From: joel@dseg.ti.com (Joel Quejada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Displaying Sun PC 3.0 Remotely
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:17:51 GMT
Reply-To: joel@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.

Does Sun PC 3.0 support the remote displaying or use of its windows?  One 
situation that I have run into is the usage of the 'ls' command in drive
E:, for example. The bottom status message says "Waiting for response from
error window" (or something like that), and I get Memory Faults, and the
accompanying core dumps.  This same operation works just fine when running
Sun PC from the console.

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From: ap10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anand Patwardhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Serial port communication packages
Date: 18 Aug 92 06:00:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ceYE9eu00iQX0oOkkl
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hi

I would like suggestions for communication packages that perform
communication over the RS 232 (serial) port on a Sun4. Preferably public
domain, but commercial ok. I'm looking for something that would allow
interactive use, rather than pure file transfer (as in Xmodem or Kermit).

Thanks much

Anand
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From: mike@egf-bbs.uucp (System Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.wanted,comp.sys.sun.hardware,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Sun-2 RAM wanted (VME and/or multibus)
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:15:50 GMT
Organization: EGF, MN Public Access Unix


I need some RAM for my 2/50 and 2/120.  The 2/120 just begs for a >1M RAM
card (I have lotsa 1M RAM cards) and the 2/50 pretty much needs a 4M
boost (either a 4M CPU or 4M expansion).

I think a 4M expansion is worth $100, and I've seen a few at that price,
but I can't seem to come up with $100!  Sooo, is there anyone out there
that has one for signigicantly less, or would be willing to trade for
multibus Sun-2 stuff (I have lots, e-mail for a list)?

Thanks,

Mike

P.S.  I'm also still looking for a inexpensive serial printer and a LARGE
color monitor (640x480, 16" or larger, 15.75Khz horizontal, 60Hz vertical).
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From: tra@niksula.hut.fi (Timo Tero Tapio R{ty)
Subject: software for SPC60 card
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:58:31


	I'm missing the software needed to make "SPC-60 SBus Parallel Printer
Port Card" working. The card itself was installed by a company that doesn't
represent sun anymore, local sun dealer doesn't have the software and I can't
find it from any of the old backups - actually I'm not yet sure what I should
be looking for :-(. As I should get this card working, is there any place to
get the software from ?

	timo

ps.  please mail answer to t33904k@puukko.hut.fi or m36159c@taltta.hut.fi
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