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From: 9135477m@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: WARMASTER SPEAKS: Somewhere in Time
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:21:39 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

>In article 9127377 @levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>> In the alt.r'n'r.metal.heavy newsgroup, people have been saying Iron
>> Maiden peaked with Piece of Mind and Powerslave and the latest album
>> marks their comeback.  I thought I'd start something here and ask 'What
>> about Somewhere in Time'??.  IMOH this is Maiden's best album by far.
>> Nikko's drumming is awesome - and while he does some good stuff on the
>> new album, it will never beat the drumming on 'Time.  Also, Bruce's
>> singing is a lot more powerful on 'Time tahn 
>> ...than on the latest stuff.  Powerslave vocals were very powerful to
>> though.  Lately Bruce sounds like he has gravel in his throat.  Of 
>> course Steve is always good for a bass line, but again on 'Time, he
>> showcases some of his best work.  Overall, I think Somewhere in Time
>> has better songs (except Alexander the Great!!) and production than any
>> other Maiden album.
>> 
>> I wonder if other people feel the same way??!!
>> 
>> Plums

NO. I think Maiden did peak with Powerslave, most of the shit since then
( with the exception of the AWESOME 7th son of a 7th son ) has been dull
and boring. Iron Maiden are a tired band who have lost the edge.

AND before the flames come pouring in I am ( was ) a big fan of Maiden,
I grew up thrashin to them and sorry to see them crash and burn.

WM ( always searching for those wasted years ... )
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.thrash
From: cherkaue@zomma.cs.wisc.edu (Kevin J. Cherkauer)
Subject: Re: Idiot Religions Bigots
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:55:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.062529.25389@csusac.csus.edu> garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary) writes:
>I wonder how Metallica will be seen in fifty years.

Washed up.
-- 
Kevin Cherkauer
cherkaue@cs.wisc.edu

Disclaimer: The above opinions are solely the responsibility of my owners.
From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Megadeth's Coundown...
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:25:41 GMT
 <36457@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> 
 <1992Jul21.023229.12641@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <1992Jul24.165604.26401@sfu.ca>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul24.165604.26401@sfu.ca>
shinyash@fraser.sfu.ca (Kazuya Shinyashiki) writes:

> You are a self-riteous pretentious asshole who thinks much too highly of his
> own opinion.  Fuck you.  I know you are going to flame me but I don't give a
> flying fuck because I have better things to do with my life than spend
> countless hours on the net "winning" arguments by simply posting so many
> counter-arguments that the other person just gets bored and quits.  Fuck you.
> Get a life.

oh yes, with people like you it certainly takes HOURS. you see, one
little follow-up generated all this hostility from you. tsk, tsk,
tsk...just because i'm right (without having to fabricate any
arguments, just read the post) someone loses their cool and acts like
the typical net jerk. you should take your own advice because you're
the one who looks stupid here.

-kev.

slatanist@mac.dartmouth.edu

=========================
no escaping pain
you belong to me
hanging on to life by the
skin o' my teeth
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: grlee@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Greg Lee)
Subject: Re: What ever happened to Coney Hatch ??
Keywords: Coney Hatch
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:34:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.153731.6129@b24a.ingr.com> user@machine.domain writes:
>Does anyone remember a Canadian metal band called Coney Hatch ??
>
>If not, don't worry about it - go to the next article ... 

Last time I heard anything...they were playing grungy little bars.  I think
they have bit the bullet.

Later,

Greg.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Geezer Butler solo
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 07:38:49 GMT

In article <7855@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> dholdswo@adelphi.ua.oz.au (Moi) writes:
>
>BTW, some real names of various people:
>Ronnie James Dio: Ronald Padanova

Ronald James Padavona.

--
Tapio Keihanen, tapio@nic.funet.fi -<>- Sell me your Dio rarities!
Mesiheinankatu 2 B 6 ---------------<>----------------------------
33340 Tampere ----------------------<>- See you on Black Sabbath's
Finland, tel. +358-(9)31-432 478 ---<>- Dehumanizer World Tour 92!
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: HELMET - How are they?
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:48:25 GMT
Reply-To: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

knaack@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert John Knaack) posts:

#	So I have been hearing a lot of good things about HELMET lately.
#	How are they?  What do they sound like?


Well, I got their album "Meantime" and I like it. I would not call
them metal, although they are heavy. They're more of a grunge or
alternative band that has been influenced by metal and punk.

They have some of *the heaviest* riffs I've ever heard. Some of it
reminds me of some of the heavier Metallica riffs. Nothing on the
album is really fast, so if you're expecting thundering-double-
bass-drums-at-200-beats-per-minute speed metal, don't buy this
album. They do have some really quirky, odd sounding things too.
A few songs have odd-meter passages, or the drums will be normal
while the other players do some syncopated riffing that throws the
whole notion of 4/4 time out the window. It's really clever but not
to the point of being contrived.

They have a really original sound, but you can tell what influenced
them (grunge, punk, metal, alternative). The album really started to
grow on me after a few listens. The first track "In the Meantime"
just jumps out at you - I'd love to crank this in the car at a red
light.

Very heavy and even pondering, but not speed. Good stuff, though.

THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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"... watch from high atop Tokyo Tower as the twisted world
you created explodes in rivers of blood and endless pain..."
    -Tom Servo, announcer, monster action playset commercial
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Geezer Butler Solo?
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:54:13 GMT
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET

In article <1992Jul20.081634.8290@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bd380@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Francesco Marcolla) writes:
>
>In a previous article, tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) says:
>
>>Dio's original name was Ronald James Padavona - his parents were from
>>Italy. [...]                         ^^^^^^^^
>
>WRONG! His real name is "Padovano".

WRONG! It is PADAVONA and nothing else.
 - Rock Stars Dictionary: "DIO, Ronnie James (b Ronald Padavona, 10
    July '49, Cortland, NY) USA heavy rock vocalist. Studied..."
 - Metal Attack Special; Dio Fan-Mag 1986: "...Ronnie Dio was born
    Ronald Padavona in..."
 - Stara (Finnish metal magazine): "... amerikanitalialaispoika 
    Ronald Padavona soitti New Yorkissa..." (My translation: '...
    American Italian boy, Ronald Padavona, played in New York..')
 - personal letter from Ronnie James Dio: "...I was born in USA in '40s
    as Ronald Padavona..."

I WANT DIO LIVE TAPES! IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THEM, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!!!!!

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Axl Arrested
Date: 19 Jul 92 18:14:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: The few, the proud... the stupid, the inept

In article <13976@borg.cs.unc.edu> kupper@tigger.cs.unc.edu (Mark Kupper) writes:

     WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT THIS FUCKING LOSER!! You're only increasing his
   album sales (so is MTV, etc.) by spreading his bad-boy rebel image which the
   do not deserve. Let's forget about them and maybe these Aerosmith wanna-be's
   will not get all this undeserved credit. 

Ahem, these are the Usenet NEWS we're talking about here. And this piece of
info would never have filtered through the normal channels. Alt.r-n-r.hard
would have been a better place to post this in.

'Undeserved', the guy jumps into the audience and causes the largest rock 
riot in ages. What could be more deserving.
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : With friends like that, who needs anemones
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Saturday, 25 Jul 1992 18:21:19 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: test

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Somewhere in Time
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:00:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.144850.522@r-node.gts.org> singh@r-node.gts.org (Rajendra Singh) writes:
>In article <18077.2a73c5f5@levels.unisa.edu.au> 9127377g@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>In the alt.r'n'r.metal.heavy newsgroup, people have been saying Iron
>>Maiden peaked with Piece of Mind and Powerslave and the latest album
>>marks their comeback.  I thought I'd start something here and ask 'What
>>about Somewhere in Time'??.  IMOH this is Maiden's best album by far.
>
>This album is my personal favourite from Maiden.  I also like "Live After
>Death".  I think they made good use, not abuse, of keyboards on this
>album.  I am no fan of keyboards, but this album sounds awesome.  My
>least favourite (musically, not lyrically) is "Seventh Son Of A Seventh
>Son".
>
Funny, there are no keyboards on SOMEWHERE IN TIME. Guitar synths, yes, but no
keyboards. SEVENTH SON and albums afterwards had keyboards.

philip



"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Dehumanizer Tour Commentary
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324


Well, this is the first text I've caught anywhere on the current
Sabbath tour.    Picked this up off of GEnie, and thought you guys might
be interested in it.

Music RT
Category 12,  Topic 37
Message 480       Sun Jul 26, 1992
MR.SINISTER [Paul]           at 13:36 EDT

Welp it's july 26 and black sabbath was here(sun dome tampa fl) last
night.

some comments: Either they started real early or LOVE HATE didn't show.
Ronnie James Dio was fantastic on stage i thought; he was happy and
smiling all the time and really looked like he was getting into
the show, probably because this was only their second show in the U.S.
so far. He played all the songs from DEHUMANIZER that i said were my
favs
except that he replaced BURIED ALIVE with MASTER OF INSANITY. I only
wish they could of played some songs from DIOs solo career.

Also i see what OZZY meant when he said He didn't want a guitarist who
had his feet embeeded in concrete: IOMMI didn't do hardly a thing
on stage, Dio was his complete opposite in everyway on stage.

Does anyone have a list of all albumns and groups dio played with?

Track Listing:
THE MOB RULES
COMPUTER GOD
CHILDREN OF THE SEA
TIME MACHINE
WAR PIGS
MASTER OF INSANITY
DIE YOUNG
I
BLACK SABBATH
TV CRIMES
IRON MAN
HEAVEN AND HELL
encore: NEON KNIGHTS
encore: PARANOID
From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Anthrax's new singer
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:33:18 GMT
 <1992Jul21.125751.24515@news.columbia.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

it is true that john bush is the new anthrax singer. although the
actual contracts haven't been signed yet, i was on the phone with an
anthrax rep not ten minutes ago and she confirmed the ole frontman for
armored saint would indeed be croaking for anthrax. judging by the
saint type of music and the quality of their last albums , i'd say he
fits into anthrax rather well, especially the stuff off POT. he doesn't
have the power or control to hold notes like joey did, but he's not
scraggly sounding or scratchy. it should be interesting. the rep sed to
expect a new album in january or so.

-kev.

slatanist@mac.dartmouth.edu

============================
one hour from now
another species of life form
will disappear off the face 
of the planet...forever
and the rate is accelerating
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ror1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Dave Mustaine)
Subject: Re: Megadeth's Coundown...
Reply-To: ror1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:33:17 GMT

You compare yourself to Sauron and Maple?  THEY are at least mildly
amusing and intelligent.  And they don't prattle on all day long about
one subject, usually stating the same thing over and over again.  


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JONAX)
Subject: GNR in INDY
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:14:55 GMT

	INDIANAPOLIS (UPI) -- City and state excise police arrested 140 people
on charges ranging from public intoxication to drug violations during
the Guns N' Roses concert at the Hoosier Dome.
	The Marion County lockup was filled to the brim Thursday morning with
people from the concert crowd. Normally, the holding center has about 60
detainees at this time of week, but police said the facility was holding
127 people.
	Charges lodged against the fans of Axl Rose and his group included
possession of marijuana, cocaine and controlled substances, resisting
arrest, public indecency, public intoxication and disorderly conduct.
	Rose, who hails from Lafayette just an hour's drive north of the
Hoosier Dome concert hall, gave Hoosiers a marathon concert.
	The show began at 6:30 p.m. Wednesday with performances by Faith No
More and Metallica. Guns N' Rose then took the stage and kept the hall
rocking until 2:30 a.m. Thursday when Rose finally laid down his
microphone.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Black Sabbath World Tour Dates
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:15:24 GMT

                                    S
                                B L A C K
                                    B
                                    B
                                    A
                                    T
                                    H
                             rules the world


Here are the tour dates I've managed to find out:

July
----
25  Atlanta, Georgia, USA
30  Massey Hall, Toronto, Canada (w/ Slik Toxik & Love/Hate)
31  Nautica Stage, Cleveland, USA (w/ Danzig, Trouble)

August
------
02  Pine Knob, Clarkston, Michigan, USA
07  Washington DC, USA
08  Tower Theatre, Upper Darby, PA, USA (w/ Danzig)
09  The Orpheum Theatre, Boston, USA (w/ Prong, Trouble)
15  Superrock, Mannheim, Germany
30  Sutton Park, UK

September
---------
01  City Hall, Newcastle, UK (w/ Testament (Testament is with whole UK tour))
02  Playhouse, Edinburgh, UK
04  Apollo, Manchester, UK
05  NEC, Birmingham, UK
06  Centre, Newport, UK
08  Hammersmith Odeon, London, UK

GO TO SEE THEM! SHOW THEM THAT THEY'RE STILL KINGS OF METAL WORLD! 

If anyone has information on any other dates, let me know immediately!
I'll post this list to here every now and then. If the moderator of
rec.music.info reads this, please could you post this on your
newsgroup? 

Then, if someone has a chance to bring a tape recorder to any of those
shows, please let me know. I'm very interested in getting tapes from
this tour and I'm also very interested in all Dio live tapes. If
someone has something to complain about legality of this, please
complain with e-mail.

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mcesario@athena.mit.edu (Matthew Cesario)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Guns N Roses Tix-Boston
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:02:29 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Keywords:Does anyone have any seats for Boston?
I am desperate for itx to the GnR, Mettalica show on the 31 at Foxboro.  Respond
quickly. thanks.
From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: dream theatre
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:30:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hawkwind.central.sun.com

In article <1992Jul30.140006.29336@muppet.bt.co.uk>, bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim) writes:
|> Bought the new CD "Images and Words" on saturday - pretty cool overall, 
|> but not as heavy as their first album, which I would have preferred.

I know this should be a group FAQ by now, but what is the name of the
first album ?

|> Favourite track is probably "Pull me Under", but I have a question about
|> this song. On the CD it says its 8:12 long, but this doesn't sound right with
|> respect to the song - there is an extremely abrupt ending in mid bar.
|> 
|> Is it a) crap editing on the album
|>  or   b) my CD copy screwed
|> 
|> Answers please ?

Neither, I think.  Consider the meaning of the song.  I take the abrupt
ending as the end, for which the singer has no fear (and obviously no
warning :-).

Bob
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Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Somewhere in Time
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:25:34 GMT

In article <18077.2a73c5f5@levels.unisa.edu.au> 9127377g@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

>though.  Lately Bruce sounds like he has gravel in his throat.  Of 
>course Steve is always good for a bass line, but again on 'Time, he
>showcases some of his best work.  Overall, I think Somewhere in Time
>has better songs (except Alexander the Great!!) and production than any
>other Maiden album.

In my opinion, Steve's bass has been almost destroyed on Fear Of The
Dark. I've always been a fan of the bass sound on Iron Maiden albums
but this newest simply don't have the bass. IMHO. 
I think that both Powerslave and Somewhere In Time are the best Maiden
albums. 7th Son and No Prayer are the worst - and after listening quite
many times the Fear album, I have to say that I don't like it too much
either. 
What comes to Alexander The Great, I think that it is the best song on
Somewhere on Time. It helped me twice when I was in school in history
exams... :-)

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Anthrax's new singer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:29:28 GMT

   I don't know if this is old news or what, but the new singer for Anthrax
   is the guy from Armored Saint.  Can't remember his first name, but his last
   name is Bush. (I think)

   How is this guy as a singer, and do any of you think he'll fit right in with
   the band?  I personally liked Joey as a singer.  Too bad.


-- 
=====================================================
= John Meseke      email-jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  =
= "Some gals like to kiss my face.  Is it luck?"    =
==============================-Les Claypool==========
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: sam@sam.b23b.ingr.com (Sam Coker)
Subject: What ever happened to Coney Hatch ??
Keywords: Coney Hatch
Reply-To: user@machine.domain
Organization: UC Berkeley XRN Design Team
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:37:31 GMT

Does anyone remember a Canadian metal band called Coney Hatch ??

If not, don't worry about it - go to the next article ...
From: Petri.Jokimies@lut.fi (Petri T. Jokimies)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: I still haven't found...
Date: 16 Jul 92 12:41:21 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


 The reunion of Accept reminds me of one thing: I still haven't found
the lyrics to their album 'Restless and Wild'. 

 If there is people out there who does have the lyrics, I would be
very glad, if he/she sent them to me.

-River
From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: dream theatre
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:00:06 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

Bought the new CD "Images and Words" on saturday - pretty cool overall, 
but not as heavy as their first album, which I would have preferred.
Favourite track is probably "Pull me Under", but I have a question about
this song. On the CD it says its 8:12 long, but this doesn't sound right with 
respect to the song - there is an extremely abrupt ending in mid bar.

Is it a) crap editing on the album
 or   b) my CD copy screwed

Answers please ?

Tim

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Resumes it's course each day			<--     Tim Fulcher      -->
It comes as if by schedule			<--  tel : 0473 648220   -->	
The harvester lives, with arms that are bent	<--  DNM22, G38, B83 MH  -->
And toes that cross, and knees that jerk	<-- British Telecom Labs -->
And necks like swans that seem to turn
As if inclined to gasp for breath...	- Quicklime Girl - , BOC