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From: strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Subject: Re: Porting Win 3.1 apps to NT
Keywords: porting
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:33:37 GMT

In <jbg.728078654@qualcom> jbg@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Jeff Gehlhaar) writes:

>I have a Win 3.1 compliant program, and am exploring the possibility of
>porting it to NT. I am a little unclear about how difficult and/or
>benefitial this will be to me.

This depends of course on the program you try to port.

>My current application (16-bit win 3.1) runs rather poorly in NT. 

In what way?

>Since
>it uses the 3.1 API, if I were to recompile it under NT, would I have
>a noticeable performance increase, 

Compared to what? If you compare it to the same application running
under Windows 3.1/DOS, you'll only see a performance increase if 
the program does a lot of 32-bit arithmetic and/or pointer manipulation
using large or huge pointers. I wouldn't expect a performance increase
for ordinary small memory model Windows programs.

If you compare it to the speed of the Windows 3.1/DOS program
running under the WIN-16 subsystem in NT, you'll certainly
will see a speed increase, because the latter suffers from the
thunking and emulation overhead, while the native app does not.  

>or must the 3.1 API calls be replaced by
>NT equivalents to achieve the gain?

Generally, no. THe WIN32 API is a superset of the Windows 3.1
API, enlarged to 32 bits. If the old Windows API fits your needs
(i.e. if you didn't have the necessity or desire to implement
your own multi-threading or memory management, for example), there
is usually no need to change the program in any way. Just clean
up the few places where the 16-32 bit widening enforced minor 
changes in the API definition (there is a tool to help you
spot such places in your program) and recompile it.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: NFS Server For NT?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:49:38 GMT

I'm sure it must get asked frequently, but does anyone have an NFS
server for NT yet?  I'm interested in getting involved with any Beta
programs that might be out there. 

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant)
Subject: Re: Pascal compiler for NT
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:41:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.084331.7680@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>Ollie.Treadway@launchpad.unc.edu (Ollie Treadway) writes:
>
>>we are looking for a pascal compiler for NT.  Please respond 
>>with any info on sources and availability.
>
>I don't have personal experience with it, but SVS (Silicon Valley 
>Systems) in fremont CA has informed me that they have a beta
>version of such a compiler. Be warned that besides the beta 
>problems in general, that you will have to make your own header
>files to call system functions (since obviously the "C" 
>include files are not compatible). If you do check it out,
>please relay back as I may pick it up myself.


	Borland has an EEP (Early Experience Program) for their C++
	for NT (I guess this is some sort of beta release).  Perhaps
	they also have EEP for their Pascal.  I don't use Pascal,
	but isn't Borland Pascal the de facto best (on Intel)?

-- 
John A. Grant						jagrant@emr1.emr.ca
Airborne Geophysics
Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Installation/Configuration problems with Oct Beta
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:33:19 GMT

In <1993Jan06.180924.15472@watson.ibm.com> anzick@watson.ibm.com (Bill Anzick) writes:
>The RAM in the machine was 16 MB minus a little.  I tried both the standard extended
>memory adapter and the IBM enhanced memory adapter with the same results.  I do have
>an IBM 16/4 TR adapter installed in it.
>Unfortunately, being in a large corporation, it is taking a long time to get
>access to Compuserve.  It will probably be at least another month before I will
>have an ID, so I have no access to any of the fixes.
>
The fix is also available from my machine allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de in
the directory /ftp/anonymou/nt. The filename is WNT002.ZIP. You will find
lots of other NT related files there.

Christoph
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress 16 Windows NT driver.
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:48:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <19JAN199313172506@skapur.cc.sunysb.edu> sjkapur@skapur.cc.sunysb.edu (Sanjay Kapur) writes:
>Is there a Ethernet driver for the board that Microsoft bundles with 
>Windows for Workgroups?  I would hope that Microsoft has a driver for
>an Ethernet board that Microsoft itself sells.

Yes, that driver will be in the next win32 sdk update - it may
already be on compuserve, I haven't looked -- Alistair
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: NT archive? Was Re: How to re-install flex boot?
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:37:11 GMT

In <1993Jan16.142327.25326@hk01.hk.ncc.se> lasse@hk01.hk.ncc.se (Lars Hammarstrand) writes:
>strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl) writes:
>
>:So I would like to repeat Russ' question: is there a maintained nt
>:specific archive on an anonymous ftp server, or does somebody intent
>:do start one? Shall I try to get the resources to start one? Does
>:anybody out there have the time and the connectivity to comoderate
>:such an archive? This most probably would make it simpler to get
>:the permission to start such a service, here.
>
>Please do! I'm on my way to port zsh and it would be nice to have
>a place to put things dedicated to WNT. So please, go ahead and
>start it up (if you have the time). I would also be nice if someone
>with a CI$ account could extract things from there and put it on that
>archive. (BTW, how much $$$ do you need... :-)))
>
>I give, hearby, a BIG vote for Wolfgang Strobls new WNT internet archive!
>
I already sent mail to Wolfgang. I have an NT archive in my BBS, which
contains over 20 MB well indexed NT files, with 75% coming from CI$.
I could spent some time for indexing the files. My only problem here is
a machine and enough disk space.

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: ReadConsoleInput bug: F12 on IBM PS/2
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:37:26 GMT

In <1993Jan06.213958.14501@watson.ibm.com> oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky) writes:
>I am not getting any key event (ReadConsoleInput) on F12.
>
>BTW, I am wondering whether anyone in Microsoft listening to bugs
>reported here (as opposed to Compuserve) and forwards them
>to appropriate developers.
>
I am sending bug reports from this group to CI$, if I can state them in
any of my NT installations. For the F12 bug, I have already sent it
to CI$.

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Netware support under NT
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:03:29 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Keywords: Netware

In article <edmund.727579006@qualcom> edmund@qualcom.qualcomm.com (The Silver Surfer) writes:
>I recently installed the October Beta release of NT onto my 486 and
>noticed there weren't any drivers for Novell. I heard that support
>for Novell would be part of a separate package.

We have been working with Novell for quite some time assisting them to
develop a native Windows NT client for Netware networks. Their work-
in-progress was first demoed at fall interop '92, and last week at
Networld. Novell have committed to making this available to their
customers, and judging by last weeks demo, things are looking good
for a release quite soon. Novell have been encouraging people to
send their requests for the Netware Client for Windows NT to them -
you could call 800-red-word for details, perhaps -- Alistair

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: 16-bit Windows 3.1 vs Win32s thunking
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:09:36 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan21.020250.29619@emr1.emr.ca> jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant) writes:
>Windows 3.1
>-----------
>In Windows 3.1, I can use huge pointers for large objects.  Somewhere
>in the compiled code, these are 32-bit pointers which are switched
>back and forth between linear 32-bit addresses and segmented 16/16-bit
>addresses as they are used in computations and for dereferencing things.
>At least, that's my understanding of huge pointers.

You're assumptions about Win32s are quite wrong, and in general about
the operation of 32-bit code on Intel x86. The huge pointers you refer
to are quite different from the 32-bit addressing used by Windows NT
and Win32s+Win3.1 - the 386 in fact has 16-bit segments, and optionally
16-bit or 32-bit offset registers. The huge mode you refer to uses
16:16 addressing, while Windows NT & Win32s use 16:32 - but that would
be 48-bit addressing, right? Well no, because we set the 16-bit
segment registers to zero, so cs=ds=es=gs=fs=0, and we just use
32-bit addressing - this is a portable concept, particularly to
RISC systems which don't have "segment" registers a la x86

Hope this makes more sense now -- Alistair
From: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: REXX, OS/2, and NT
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) 

  brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes...

BS>OS/2 does have one feature that NT doesn't that you might need... REXX.
BS>If you need an imbedded scripting language, then REXX fills that
BS>niche rather well, NT will eventually have ObjectBasic to fill this
BS>need, but it's not there yet.

Brian and everybody, just out of curiosity - is there anything
(technically or legally) that prevents someone from implementing
REXX under Windows NT?  How about the same question for the variant
of REXX I've been hearing described as "visual REXX"?

(Note that I've never seen *either* variant of REXX in action, but
that I've seen lots of approving comments about them in the OS/2
conferences.)

                   Bert Tyler   (bert.tyler@satalink.com)
---
 . DeLuxe./386 1.25 #343sa . Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion?
                                                          
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Subject: Re: Fatal System Error 0x0000006B
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:43:40 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <C1J4t7.F51@unx.sas.com>, sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb) writes:
|>
|> Could someone tell me more about the following installation error?
|>
|>    Fatal System Error: 0x0000006B
|>    Phase 1 process initialization error.
|>
|> I was isntalling on a new Bernoulli 150 box with an internal switch
|> set to "fixed disk" mode.  If this works, this will be real nice for
|> folks that have to boot old/new versions of different OS' on their
|> systems.
|>
|> I have a PS/2 95 with an IBM 1990 SCSI adapter installed and 16M.
|>
|> I have successfully installed DOS and OS/2 2.0 onto the 150M
|> cartridges using no special drivers - the PS/2 setup just sees
|> a 150M scsi drive.  Setup does not show the drive as removable.
|>
|> So therefore I would argue that the Bernoulli 150 should be
|> supported by Windows NT to the extent that WNT supports the
|> IBM SCSI adapter - which of course is not real consistent per
|> my past experience with the October release.
|>
|> Thanks for any help,
|>
|> --
|> Dave Kolb                     Opinions are mine not SAS'
|> SAS Institute, Inc.           EMAIL:      sasdxk@unx.sas.com
|> SAS Campus Drive - J206       Phone:      (919) 677-8000 x6827
|> Cary, NC  27513-2414 USA      FAX:        (919) 677-8123
|>

Actaully, this occurs on my PS/2 95 using an external IBM 400M scsi also.

Seems to ahve nothing to do with the Bernoulli box.

Anyone?

Thanks,
-- 
Dave Kolb                     Opinions are mine not SAS'
SAS Institute, Inc.           EMAIL:      sasdxk@unx.sas.com
SAS Campus Drive - J206       Phone:      (919) 677-8000 x6827
Cary, NC  27513-2414 USA      FAX:        (919) 677-8123

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: New Windows/NT files available
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17d by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:46:09 GMT

Since cica does not allow uploads now, I have made the following files
available on allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de in /ftp/anonymou/nt:

GENPRT.ZIP   Access to HW-Ports using IOCTL
IOPORT.ZIP   Access to HW-Ports under DOS-Emulation
LOCALE.ZIP   Unofficial Doc to GetLocaleInfoW()
RAWIO.ZIP    Superb HW-Port Access Manger
SMPLE1.ZIP   Dynamic Loading and Unloading Sample
THINGS.ZIP   Thieves and King Game
TOOLS.ZIP    Excel Docu of Tools for NT
TOOLSQ.ZIP   Tools-Questionaire for your tools
NTFTPD.ZIP   Windows NT Darpa Internet File Transport Protocol Server (+ sources)
NTSYSMON.ZIP NT System Monitor - Ray Duncan - PC Mag 93 01 (+ C sources)
CPUTYPE.ZIP  NT CPU monitor - Ray Duncan - PC Mag - 93 01 (+ C sources)

I got most of these files from CI$ paid with my own money.
If someone else got other files from CI$, don't hesitate to upload them
here. I will make them publically available for ftp and upload them to
cica as soon as they will allow uploads again.

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
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From: ulf@goliat.dc.luth.se (Ulf Ruthberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Library which can support DOS, OS2, and NT.
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:08:40 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

tommy@taichung.Eng.Sun.COM wrote:
: 
: Hi netter,
: 
:       I heard that these is a library which can support
: DOS, OS/2, and NT to exist on the same disk and still can boot to
: each OS.
: 
:       Does anybody happen to have the library  on hand ?
: If possible, please e-mail me the library. Thanks in advance.
: 
: 
: =================================================================
:           NAME   Tommy Hsieh
:           EMAIL  tommy.hsieh@sun.com
:           PHONE  415-336-3503 (work)
: =================================================================
: -- 
: =================================================================
:           NAME   Tommy Hsieh
:           EMAIL  tommy.hsieh@sun.com
:           PHONE  415-336-3503 (work)
: =================================================================

I'm very interested in this too!

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               Computer Service Center, Lule} University.
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: NT documentation
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17e by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:46:06 GMT

In <1993Jan20.153549.22954@news.uiowa.edu> dhmadsen@icaen.uiowa.edu (Donald H Madsen) writes:
>I have the impression that the NT CD-ROM has documentation in a
>PostScript format on the CD-ROM.
>
Well, ahem, I also have this impression.

>Could someone tell me how to find it and how to print appropriate
>parts?  Thanks is advance for suggestions.
>
Look for files with the extension .ps. You will see, that they are
well structured in directory trees. Also have a look to the printed
release notes.

Christoph
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From: doneill@unixg.ubc.ca (David O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Radio button disabling
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:07:54 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

I have a little problem and was wondering if someone could help me out.  

How does one go about disabling (shading) a radio button.  I found that on creating you can disable it but I have found no way to change its state.  I found how to disable check boxes but there seemed to be no similar way to do this for radio buttons.

Any help would be appreciated...
-Dave
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: 3.0/3.1 hardware drivers (DLL's) for NT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17e by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:39:35 GMT

In <43754@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou) writes:
>
>I am currently using a GPIB board that came with Windows 3.1 DLL's
>that serve as the programming interface for the hardware.  (the board
>is a National Instruments AT-GPIB board, FYI) I just spoke with the
>company and they said they don't have any NT drivers for it yet.
>My boss is itching for our software to be ported to NT.
>
>Will the 3.1 drivers (DLL's) work with NT?
>

No!

>On a related note, I have some software that makes direct references
>to I/O ports (inportb() and outportb()).  Will I have to rewrite my
>code?
>

Get IOPORT.ZIP and/or RAWIO.ZIP from allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de
in /ftp/anonymou/nt or from CI$ MSWIN32 forum in the DDK Lib to see
how to gain direct access to I/O ports under WIN32,WIN16 and DOS subsystems.

>Well, as long as I am posting, I may as well ask...
>I have code written using Borland C++ 3.1.  Do I have to port
>everything to MSC to run under NT?
>
BC++ compiled binaries run under the WIN16 subsystem. If you want to
port it to WIN32 and you have used pretty generic code, this should be
no problem. If you made use of OWL, you may want to wait until BC++ for
Windows NT comes out.

Christoph
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Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: What is Net DDE? Is it in NT?
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17d by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:17:44 GMT

In <wright.95.0@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> wright@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Ted Wright) writes:
>Can someone explain Net DDE? I have heard that it is something
>that allows DDE calls to be passed to computers across a network.

That's exactly what it is. For example someone works on an Excel worksheet
on one computer and it will be updated in a Winword Document on another
computer.

>How does it work? What do I need to do it.
>
>I have heard it is included with Windows for Workgroups. Is this true?
>Is it also in Windows NT?

It is implemented in WfW. E.g. the PHONE and MSHEARTS use it. It is
not in the current NT beta, but I think the next beta will already
contain it.

Christoph
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Christoph H. Hochstaetter, Philipps-University Marburg | Universitaetsstr. 25
Internet: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de       | D-W-3550 Marburg
Bitnet  : HOCHSTAE AT DMRHRZ11                         | Germany
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