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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Ice Fishing
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:12:51 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Nov13.080926.29429@hemlock.cray.com> peder@cray.com writes:
>
>Does anyone out there get into ice fishing?  I have gone ice fishing only
>once in my life, and that was way back when I was in cubs scouts ;-)

                  Oh yes ..... I ice fish

>
>What equipment is neccessary?  Obviously you need a fish house, an auger,
>some type of heater, warm clothes, and plenty of beer, but is there any

              You don't HAVE to have an Ice House .... the basics are
	      an auger, a VERY short rod with an old spinning reel, maybe
	      some shiners (an insulated pail will keep them from freezing)
	      or maggots (spikes, moosies, etc, etc )


>specific ice fishing equipment needed.  Is there such a thing as an "ice
>fishing pole"?  I've heard of "tip-ups", but I'm not exactly sure what
>they are or how they are used.  Does one use live bait for ice fishing,
>or lures/jigs, etc.  If using live bait, what works best - minnows,
>crawlers, or leeches?  How do you keep the live bait from freezing?  What
>do you do with the fish once you have caught them - I don't think a basket
>or stringer will be neccessary - just throw them in the cooler?

            I prefer tip-ups MASSACHUSETTES allows five per fisherperson
	    and they cost from $6.00 to $16.00 (I use the $6.00 and make my
	    own .....). Back them neerly full with 'cod line' (braided
	    nylon)
	    and top off with 20' or so of 10# (or 8# or 6#) mono.
	    You can also 'jig' little spoons, jig heads etc. Suckers are
	    used to bait pike and BIG trout (lakers) with a steel leader.
>
>Thanks for any info - and tight lines!
>
>--

	      to add some real sport to the sport;

	      use a chain saw to cut an opening 4' wide by 40' long
	      through the ice, clear it out and use it as a casting
	      lane for spin and/or fly fishing. Add a snow-mobile
	      or pair of ice skates, lengthen the lane, and you
	      can troll!!!!!!!!!    (I couldn't resist)

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Fishing Lines
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:20:10 GMT

ecg@po.CWRU.Edu (Edward C. Goodwin) writes:


>	I've been using Trilene XL in my spinning outfit and have
>been reasonably happy with it but this guy showed me some German
>line that he got via mail order that rated 11# and was thinner than
>my 6# test.  I was impressed but, unfortunately, forgetful 'cause
>I forget the name of the stuff.  I think it started with "M".
>Does anyone out there have a clue as to the origin of this line ot
>some suggestions as to other lines?

	It might have been Maxima, but the diameters aren't nearly
	that different.  If you need tougher line than XL, try
	Bagleys silver thread.  Its a copolymer line that's thinner
	than Tri-Max and very tough.  Berkley does rate their lines
	very conservatively.
>   -- 
>Ed Goodwin (1 kyu)			"Facts do not cease to exist
>ecg@po.cwru.edu				 because they are ignored."
>ecg@po.cwru.edu@cunynm (bitnet)		 -Aldous Huxley
>Molecular Biologist to the Stars!
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: starkey@cs.montana.edu (Denbigh Starkey)
Subject: Re: English Chalk Stream Fishing (cost of)
Organization: CS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:03:20 GMT

In article <1dmajqINNgib@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> russell@skid.uk.sun.com writes:
>
>A little while ago someone dropped a comment along the lines of
>	it's cheaper to fish in Montana for a week that on the Test for
>	a day - flight included
>That prompted the question of how much it costs to fish the Test et al.
>Well, I recently came across an authoratative price guide for the best
>English chalk streams.  For anyone thinking of holidaying here next
>summer.....
>Test		80-90
>etc.
>All prices are in pounds and are for one day fishing.
>To put it into perspective, it is normal to pay 20 pounds for a day
>ticket on a stocked stillwater.
>
>Russ Bentley

The original post, which came from England, has become somewhat mangled
by occasional requotes over the last couple of months.  What he said, I
think, was that day fishing was so expensive on the Test that it was
cheaper to fish for a week in Montana than to fish for a week on the
Test.  At 80 pounds per day, this is still probably true, including
flights from Gatwick to Bozeman, assuming that one doesn't spend too much
on housing in Montana.

Of course, in Montana none of the rivers are stocked, and all fish are
wild.  Since stocking was stopped over 20 years ago, the population of 
trout has slowly improved in both size and number.  E.g., on the Madison
the overall number of trout over 14" is listed at 3,500 per mile, with
much higher numbers in some stretches.

License fees are $45 for a year, or two day permits are $15 for the first
one and then $10 for subsequent 2-day permits.

Denbigh S.
starkey@cs.montana.edu, starkey@mtsunix1.bitnet
406-994-4780 (work), 406-586-7614 (home)
From: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Smoking fish?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:38:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: arth@sudshead.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sudshead.ebay.sun.com


My dad just gave me his smoker (a Brinkman) and I was wondering if I can 
smoke cod (red snapper, rock cod, etc.). If so how should I do it?

art

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander B Davis)
Subject: Fishing in Illinois
Summary: Where to fish in central Illinois
Keywords: fishing in illinoid
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:22:46 GMT



     I've been wondering where the best places to fish are in Central
Illinois (if there are any).  I'm living in Urbana, so the closest
places to me are the ones I'd be most interested in.


                                         Thanks,  Alex

                                         abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ecg@po.CWRU.Edu (Edward C. Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fishing Lines
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:44:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


	I've been using Trilene XL in my spinning outfit and have
been reasonably happy with it but this guy showed me some German
line that he got via mail order that rated 11# and was thinner than
my 6# test.  I was impressed but, unfortunately, forgetful 'cause
I forget the name of the stuff.  I think it started with "M".
Does anyone out there have a clue as to the origin of this line ot
some suggestions as to other lines?

-- 
Ed Goodwin (1 kyu)			"Facts do not cease to exist
ecg@po.cwru.edu				 because they are ignored."
ecg@po.cwru.edu@cunynm (bitnet)		 -Aldous Huxley
Molecular Biologist to the Stars!
From: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fort Meyers Fla.
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:44:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: VM1.1689BB326.D1SAR
Organization: The University of Akron

Is there anyone on this list from or around the Fort Meyers Fla.
area?
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Graphite vs Fiberglass Spinning rods
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:13:50 GMT

dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?) writes:

>Graphite:
>---------
>PROS
>  Great feel and sensitivity. (Primary reason for developing it)
>  Stiffer , i.e. better for big fish if line is not too light
>  Lighter weight

>CONS
>  More expensive (usually)
>  Stiffer, i.e. easier to break fish off especially with light line
>  Less long term durability when being used for strong fish such as
>   steelhead, i.e. they last less than 100 steelies before breaking.
>  More brittle

	I agree that graphite rods are much easier to break in abusive
	situations such as car doors, windows, jamming the tip, etc.
	However, I use two different Berkley lightning rods, which are
	100% graphite.  One is rated for 5/8 oz. lures.  I have used this rod
	for two years to throw a one oz spoon 75 yards to reach the base of
	a spillway.  The stress is so great the that the rod tip is bent
	almost 180 degrees and I have to use the best premium copolymer
	lines and double loop knots to keep from losing the lures after
	a few casts.  I don't think a fish could possibly stress a rod
	like these casts do.  The other rod is rated for 2 oz lures and
	is use in the same situation with 2 and 2 1/4 oz lures.  Both
	rods have landed scores of 8-12 # stripers and skamania steelheads.

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: alh@cypress.com (Andy Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Small Outboard Advice Desired.
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
	<1992Nov5.151606.14703@ncsu.edu>
	<1992Nov09.155857.2055@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>
	<1992Nov10.135600.529@ncsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:09:05 GMT




No doubt Pat! Its crappie time down here and the
more people huntin' deer and squirrel puts less
on the lakes.!


>In article <1992Nov09.155857.2055@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, keith@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov5.151606.14703@ncsu.edu> plheron@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>|> >
>|> >p.s. The news traffic seems to have subsided.  Is it getting 
>|> >     too cold for you guys, or are you just working that hard?
>|> 
>|> Maybe it's because some of the people on the net, like myself, have traded
>|> in their fishing rod for their hunting rifle and gone after more exciting
>|> game! ;-) 

>Keith, 

>Good luck with the hunting!  What a noble sport!  I heartily 
>endorse all hunting.  Everyone, please break out the insulated 
>boots, jars of phermones, tree stands, new bow strings, muzzle 
>loader patches, etc...   But most importantly, get your boats 
>away from the lakes, winterize your motors, put the cover on 
>and lock the boat in the garage 'till April!!! (yeah, more fish 
>for me!!).

>			-Pat.



--
Andrew L. Hawkins, (Andy), alh@cypress.com
Cypress Southeast Design Center, Starkville, Mississippi
Ph:(601)324-4634                       Fax:(601)324-4614
"The Weather is Here, Wish You Were Beautiful."
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From: markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Call for Fishing Reports from California
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:23:34 GMT
Organization: Space Science Labs
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu

	Recent threads in this newsgroup seem to emphasize fishing
equipment (flies, fly-tying, boats, motors, etc.).  That's all well and
good, but hasn't anyone gone out lately and actually tried to catch a fish?

	I (and, I know from experience, many others) would love to read
more "fishing reports" from our area waters.  I try to post my results fairly
consistently, on those occasions when I find time to fish.

	So, what's been happening in California waters lately?

	Perhaps everyone's been home celebrating Bush's signature of the
bill which essentially directs the Federal water project to provide more 
H20 for fishes and cities, and less for agriculture?

-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: mapd1@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nigel Ling)
Subject: Re: "Micro-barb" hooks
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:29:10 GMT

In article <DENNIS_.26.0@NCSU.EDU> DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA) writes:
>Does anyone have any experience using "micro-barb" hooks such as those sold 
>by Cabella's?  How micro is the barb?
>
>DGA

Here in the UK micro-barb hooks are widely available. I use them all
the time and they are very good. Quite often I crush the barb down
because I find even a small barb unnecessary. The barbs are very small
but do the job well.

Nigel


Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)
Subject: Steelhead Report Saugeen River
Reply-To: rpark@stam.bell.ca
Organization: CER, Bell Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:50:39 GMT

Was up at Saugeen last Friday and here is my report:	

Was at mid part of river and dediced to walk upto Denny's Dam as water
was high and muddy. Fished the north side and no fish but chinooks which I
wanted no part of. Saw a few fish being caught on other side so I drove
over. Got fishing again (about 9:30 now). Hooked into a coho that I lost. 
Got into a 8lb chrome Skamania that jumped 5 times clear out of water and
landed. Hooked into a 10lb plus hen that i must have fought for 10 minutes
which I lost at the last moment. ALthought there was a bit of snow it did
not feel too cold. Ran out of red colored  roe bags.  Fishing has been quite
good for fall steelhead up here. The rivers into Lake Ontario are beginning
to pick up now. The Saugeen (lake Huron) has been good for steelhead since
September.


-- 
Richard Park
From: bart@druwa.ATT.COM (BartholomewR)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fishing near Fort Meyers/Naples
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:48:23 GMT
Distribution: rec

Taking a trip with the Family to do the DisneyWorld/Florida thing.
Will have 2 or 3 days in the Fort Meyers/Naples area. The kid loves to
fish almost as much as I do, so was wondering about the fishing in the
area. Do any piers or jetties exist that are worthwhile? If so what is 
the recommended bait/technique? What about fishing any of the lakes (from
the shore) in the central part of the state from Orlando to Naples?


Thanks in advance,

bart
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder)
Subject: Looking for Mail Order Shimano TLD5
Organization: CIBA-GEIGY Corporation, Additives Division
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:10:26 GMT

The title says it all.  I'm looking to buy the above reel from a mail
order source at a reasonable price.  The shops around here are way too
expensive.  Thanks very much.
-- 
Marc Snyder                     UUCP: ...philabs!crpmks!marcs
System Administrator                  
Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: rodin@vax.ftp.com  (Jonathan Rodin)
Subject:  fishing in San Diego area
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: rodin@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 20:35:55

I'm heading to San Diego for a week at the end of November.

I would like some advice on charters in the area.  Also, some idea of what
the fishing is like during late fall.  I'm more interested in a short day
(or half day) trip than a multiday adventure, though I would be interested
in hearing about all possibilities.

thanks,
Jon

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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: nymph colors: fly tying
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:29:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.145659.3182@csservices.Princeton.EDU> jmd@cs.Princeton.EDU () writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm trying to build up a balanced collection of kaufman hare's-ear nymphs
>(9 a night, so far!). Kaufman recomends tying them in 5 colors and 5 sizes
>(10-18). Unfortunately, he neglects to say what the 5 colors are. I have
>dubbing in 11 colors, but I am sort of hoping that I can get away with
>tying only 75 nymphs (5 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each) instead of 165 nymphs
>(11 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each).
>

We use and like Hare's Ears!  Try medium brown (color of deer) plain or
medium brown with thin gold ribbing, i.e. a Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear.  Size
10 seems a bit big though.  I'd go for #12-#18 or #20.  #18 and #16 get
the most action in Colorado.  They resemble lots of things, so they are
kind of a bread-and-butter flie around here (along with the usual assortment).

BD


Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: jmd@cs.Princeton.EDU ()
Subject: nymph colors: fly tying
Originator: jmd@tyrolia
Organization: Princeton University CS Department, Princeton NJ
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:56:59 GMT


Hello,

I'm trying to build up a balanced collection of kaufman hare's-ear nymphs
(9 a night, so far!). Kaufman recomends tying them in 5 colors and 5 sizes
(10-18). Unfortunately, he neglects to say what the 5 colors are. I have
dubbing in 11 colors, but I am sort of hoping that I can get away with
tying only 75 nymphs (5 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each) instead of 165 nymphs
(11 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each).

So, would anybody care to suggest what colors should be useful? It is OK with
me if you don't think 5 is a magic number for colors...

thanks!
-john

PS.
    Yes. I know. I can't remember how to spell kaufman.
    I can however spell Randall. Thank heavens for small gifts.


John Danskin		|  fly tying and backaches ... a winning combination
(609) 258-5386		|  
jmd@cs.princeton.edu	| or - I'll have to stop tying at the kid's desk soon
-- 
John Danskin			|
(609) 258-5386			|
jmd@cs.princeton.edu		|
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Call for Fishing Reports from California
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:00:25 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1dbhq6INN94b@agate.berkeley.edu> markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz) writes:
 
|	Recent threads in this newsgroup seem to emphasize fishing
|equipment (flies, fly-tying, boats, motors, etc.).  That's all well and
|good, but hasn't anyone gone out lately and actually tried to catch a fish?
 
Good question.   Unfortunately, I don't like my own answer.  I'm waiting
for Steelhead season to open on Nov. 16 over in Santa Cruz county.  I've
been reading lots of articles on steelhead fishing with a fly and tying
a lot of steelhead flies.  

|	I (and, I know from experience, many others) would love to read
|more "fishing reports" from our area waters.  I try to post my results fairly
|consistently, on those occasions when I find time to fish.

|	So, what's been happening in California waters lately?

I haven't heard a whole lot but there was something I've been meaning to
ask about at least one of the California waters.

I was recently looking at the "Recreational Lakes of California" guide about
the lakes around Mt. Tamalpais.  It mentioned that Lake Lagunitas had 
restrictions on it (barbless flies, small/0  limits, and slot limits) in 
an attempt to create a trophy trout fishery.  This was started in 1990 or
so and I was wondering if there has been any success yet.  I've never fished
any of the lakes in the area and it certainly sounded interesting.  

RE: Bushes signing of the water bill.

In a recent "Field and Stream" (I think) there was a good article about the
presidental and congressional candidates views on environmental and sportmans
concerns.  They made about 20 statements and asked each candidate to express
their views.  They asked that we review their position on each issue and
hold them to it.  It was an interesting article.

-- 
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Fishing in Illinois
Keywords: fishing in illinoid
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:35:25 GMT

abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander B Davis) writes:



>     I've been wondering where the best places to fish are in Central
>Illinois (if there are any).  I'm living in Urbana, so the closest
>places to me are the ones I'd be most interested in.


>                                         Thanks,  Alex

>                                         abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

	Read my weekly fishing column in the C-U News Gazette for starters
	then give me a call at 244-3652 days or 586-4958 for the latest
	scoop.  By the way, the best places are the private ponds that I
	can fish.  Sorry, I can't take others, but I can help you find
	your own. -Roger>  
>Path: maureen.cen.uiuc.edu!user
>From: mtan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Maureen Tan)
From: clsg1177@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Curtis L. Stowers)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Tournament Strategies
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:59:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx98MK.AyF
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Does anyone know of any software (commercial or shareware) that has
a summary of popular/successful bass patterns?