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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: HK Movies (Was: Diary of a Hitman)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:54:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.012820.25264@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> thomason@feldspar.egr.msu.edu (Faran Thomason) writes:
>
>I agree John Woo and Tsui Hark are two of my favorite directors outhere. Let's face it
>Lucas and Spileberg are through!!!

>Without a doubt HK films are highly derivative, but even the cheeseiest hopping vampire
>film is loaded with more energy than most American movies today.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Most of the Hong Kong movies
I've seen, including those with strong reputations, were overrated, in
my opinion, and do not stack up to the best Hollywood films, either 
technically, artistically, or in entertainment value.  The Hong Kong films
were good films, but not up to Hollywood's best.  I will say that no other
film industry comes as close to beating Hollywood at its own game as the
Hong Kong film industry, and, in time, they may yet surpass Hollywood.
But not yet.  I've seen around a dozen Hong Kong action films (plus a couple 
of art films), including several of Woo's and Hark's best known films,
so I'd say I'm working from a reasonable sample space.

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From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Re: The soundtrack of Until the End of the World
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:46:27 GMT

In <1992Jul28.212327.10303@julian.uwo.ca> koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops) writes:

>In article <18a73c3c@p99.f42.n242.z2.fidonet.org> Erik_Schmidt@wharfrat.fido.de (Erik Schmidt) writes:
>>
>>Here's the list from the german version of the soundtrack ("Bis ans Ende der 
>>Welt", Warner). I noticed that there is at least an american version of the 
>>soundtrack without the three Songs from the original score.
>>1)  Opening Titles
>>    (Original Score)
>>    2:00
>  .
>  .
>  .
>>17) Finale
>>    (Original Score)
>>    0:55

>My version of this soundtrack (which I presume is the American one, as I live
>in Canada), also has a track called "Sax and Violins" by Talking Heads.
>It doesn't look like there are any other differences in the lists (from memory
>which is not very good).

i don't recall any mention from _either_ previous poster of the U2 single,
"Until The End Of The World", which, it would appear to me, is an important
part of the soundtrack considering it is the title of the movie! =)
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Midnight Movies
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:06:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.184747.5374@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> etbe_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Elisa Bergslien) writes:
>
>	I want to know what would be concidered an 'ultimate'
>midnight movie.  I already know about Rocky Horror, and 
>Eraserhead... I am interested in getting together a list
>of 'lesser known' midnight movies... 
>Any ideas ??
>

There's a book called _Midnight Movies_.  Can't remember the author's
name though.  It was pretty good, traced the history of the Midnight
Movie phenomenon and so forth.   Dealt mostly with RHPS but then, that was
to be expected . . . 

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:43:34 -0400 
From: Peter Yung Chang <pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Rapture ** SPOILER ** 

I thought the Rapture was a WONDERFUL movie!!!  It really wasn't what I
thought it was, but I loved it anyway.

Since religion is a big issue with my friends and I, we loved the movie.
 We are both agnostic/atheistic, and we thought the movie was
interesting because:

Depending on your point of view, the movie is either VERY RELIGIOUS, or
VERY ANTI-RELIGIOUS.  Of course, the religion in question is
Christianity, with the Judao-Christian "God".

If you were watching the movie from a religious point of view, then you
can talk about the grace of "God" and how forgiving he is.  All you have
to do is to say you believe in "God", then you can enter the kingdom of
heaven.

But if you were anti-religious, you can talk about the whole hypocrisy
of Christianity.  You can be a murderer (eg. killing your own daughter),
but as long as you say you believe in "God", all your sins will be
forgiven, and you can enter heaven.  And killing your daughter was
"justified" in the movie because the daughter would go to heaven.  What
twisted logic....

Anyway.  I liked to movie.  I recommend anyone who has an interest in
religion to go see it.

					
					peech

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Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
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From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Another Name That Movie
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:11:37 GMT
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In rec.arts.movies you write:

>Well, I did it again -- tuned in after the title and opening
>credits.  This was a pretty predictable "buddy" movie, but
>I really liked Gene Wilder's performance.  He played a rabbi...

THE FRISCO KID (I thought it was pretty good, too)

	/JBL


>Margaret Wiginton
>margaret@msw104i.b24b.ingr.com

I tried mail but it bounced - twice.
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From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans )
Subject: "Sisters" song - where????
Keywords: name that movie!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:34:57 GMT

O.K. Movie quote-ahaulics, name this movie for me.  It contained
the song:

sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters,
many men have tried to split us up, but no one can
lord, help the mister who comes between me and my sister
and lord, help the sister who comes between me and my man!

I'm thinking late-70's?  Help if you can.
You'll win "Movie trivia genius of the hour" :-)

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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: Diary of a Hitman
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:49:32 GMT

eprice@sql.sybase.com (Ed Price) -- that's me:
 I just watched Diary of a Hitman.  This is the worst movie I have seen
 in recent memory.

hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong):
 [NB: I've never seen DIARY OF A HITMAN before -- I assume it is
 a Hong Kong movie based on the content of the previous posting...]

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher):
>No, it's an American film.  I believe that similarities in plot elements
>were what led to the comparison to "The Killer".

Yes.

I'm almost positive nobody will have any interest in this, but just in
case:

There is a particular scene that is shot in a way that suggests an
"hommage" to THE KILLER.  I'm talking about the scene where the hitman
meets his boss in a church.  If you look at the opening scene of THE
KILLER and then at this scene of Diary of a Hitman you will see more
similarity than I would care to attribute to coincidence.  Some of the
shots are reversed (from behind instead of from in front, or the
people are on the left instead of the right).  Judge for yourselves...

>Woo has just signed to make his first American film.  It's a Jean-Claude
>Van Damme vehicle, which is not a very good sign, in my opinion.  If I
>were Woo, I'd have held out for a film with a real actor, rather than
>a wooden performer with excellent martial arts skills.

Well, yeah.  But as I said a while back in alt.cult-movies, if anyone
can make a *good* Van Damme vehicle, Woo can.  I'm keeping my hopes
up.

Chow Yun Fat is supposedly learning English...

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From: hpuerca.atl.hp.com!mhr@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Review: Cool World Rocks
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:49:00 GMT
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I, too, saw Cool World this past weekend, and consider it to be one of
the biggest wastes of $6.75 I've ever spent (actually, $13.50 if you
include the SO).

The animation was striking in places, but I found myself distracted
in most scenes by the (goblins? extras?) additional characters which
seemed to fly through most of the scenes -- for example, the first 
scene where the detective visits Holli.  I saw _SOOOO_ many characters
flying by that I couldn't concentrate on the action (what of it there
was) occurring on the screen.

And the acting -- I've got to give credit to Brad Pitt and Gabriel
Byrne, and name them co-receipients of the "Bob Hoskins How-to-React-
to-an-Empty-Space" award.  However, after Basinger took over in the 
flesh, the movie just lurched to a halt, as far as I was concerned.

I guess the best one-liner I heard about the film was the reaction of
one of my friends with me at the theater -- "It's the seedy side of
Toontown, seen thru the eyes of an Acid trip".

I can't say I disagree.  Maybe having chemicals coursing in my
bloodstream would have helped my appreciation of the movie --
or at least occupied the boredom.


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From: etbe_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Elisa Bergslien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Midnight Movies
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:47:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Geology, Univ. of Rochester


	I want to know what would be concidered an 'ultimate'
midnight movie.  I already know about Rocky Horror, and 
Eraserhead... I am interested in getting together a list
of 'lesser known' midnight movies... 
Any ideas ??

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From: agsm.ucla.edu!ataylor@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Comfort of Strangers
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:05:00 GMT
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dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott) writes:


>Has anyone seen the movie "Comfort of Strangers" with screenplay by
>Harold Pinter?

>If you understood the movie, please explain. It was too cryptic for me.


I saw the movie and understood that it sucked.


al  ataylor@agsm.ucla.edu
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Adjuster... (MEGA-HELLA SPOILER)
Date: 27 Jul 1992 06:16:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I just saw this film the past weekend, and I thought it was pretty
good, if a little inaccessible...

What I want to know is, what do people make of the ending... When
the man's house is burning, he starts staring at his hand. And then
there's a cut to him being an adjusters for his wife and her sister as
their house burned. At first I thought it was just a weird cut, as
if he was imagining he'd have to play the adjuster for their own 
family now that the house is in flames. Then I thought that maybe he
had met his wife and her sister working as an adjuster for them...Which
do you think is more plausible...
Also, what's the significance of looking at the hand?
--Peter M.

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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Gus Van Sant
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:07:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.191320.7060@willamette.edu> amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger) writes:
>
>What movies has Gus Van Sant directed in addition to "Drugstore Cowboy" and
>"My Own Private Idaho"...In addition what film school did he go to, his movies
>(camera angles, nutty dream sequences, etc.) remind me a lot of David Lynch
>and I was curious to see if they went to school together.
>
>thanks
>
>adam

Hmmmmm . . . I think he came out of MTV.  Not sure where he went to school
or anything.  The only other movie-type thing he's done that I know of is
a . . . hmmm . . . not really "music" video but just a video of William
S. Burroughs' "Thanksgiving Prayer."  The whole things about 3 minutes
long and is available on a videotape titled _Buried Treasures Vol. 1_.
I'm not sure if it's available anywhere else or not.  Hope at least
some of this helps . . . 

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:23:36 EDT
From: <PAK114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Midnight Movies
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul24.184747.5374@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
etbe_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Elisa Bergslien) says:
>
>        I want to know what would be concidered an 'ultimate'
>midnight movie.  I already know about Rocky Horror, and
>Eraserhead... I am interested in getting together a list
>of 'lesser known' midnight movies...
>Any ideas ??
>
 EL TOPO (the mole)
 PINK FLOYD - THE WALL
 THE BLUES BROTHERS
 DAWN OF THE DEAD
 PINK FLAMINGOS
 and, of course.....TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE


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From: marck@nwu.edu (Marck ... high above the kitchen)
Subject: Re: the big picture and t
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: NU ACNS
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:52:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.1489.24409@channel1>, eric.walker@channel1.com (eric
walker) wrote:
>      Jennifer Jason Leigh was also in "The Big Picture;" she
>      played the sexpot.

a frayed knot.

jennifer jason leigh played the spacey waif who makes the video for the Pez
People.

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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:27:33 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul22.170407.24310@walter.bellcore.com> tedk@jpl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ted Ko) writes:

>I think that's the first time I've heard anyone say they really disliked T2.
>Personally, I put it in my top ten of all time.  What about it was so bad
>that it deserves comparison with Highlander 2?

I know lots of people who agree with me.  I also know lots of people who
like the second better than the first.  Why didn't I like it?  The plot
holes, the lack of continuity, the fact that it *never should have happened*,
and the fact that nothing's changed just because they blew up all the files.


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From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Subject: Re: the fountainhead
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:19:14 GMT
Organization: Disorganization Datorganization

In <1992Jul28.150136.25082@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:

>> out Dune).

>You have clearly never seen the 1930 version of MOBY DICK.


Oh, and let's not forget the fiasco, _The Hotel New Hampshire_ which
has the weirdest cuts in the story and some of the worst casting
EVER! It's truly apalling!

As for the Fountainhead, it's even sadder that the film didn't do
the book justice, seeing as how Rand wrote the script. They should
have hired Ben Hecht. He would have done a MUCH better job.

 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:33:20 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Jul30.165806.6126@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, 
bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg) writes:
 
> Does anyone know what Indiana's guide in Egypt's name was?  
> The character not the actor's name.

Yep.  He's also "the monarch of the sea!"

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From: donm@intacc.uucp (Don McKellar)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: NAKED LUNCH
Anization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:52:13 GMT
Organization: Matrix Artists' Network


kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu) writes:
>
>Cronenberg was once quoted (somewhere) as saying that a true adaptation of
>the book would result in a movie that would cost several $100 million, which
>was why it was decided early on that the movie would be about the writing of
>the book, _Naked Lunch_, not a real adapation.
>
>The William Tell scene is a nod to William S Burroughs, not the book.  
>Burroughs actually did in real life what Bill Lee does in the movie, with the
nces, concerning the William Tell scene.
>
>>My favourite scenes are those in which Peter Weller spins ridiculous
>>tales out of nothing to amuse / confuse or just to play with the words.
>
>I got the feeling that those were passages straight out of the book.  Is there
>anyone who's read the book and seen the movie who can confirm this?
>

I can confirm this.  All those speechs were directly from the book.  In fact
those bits and the passages directly read on screen from Bill's writing were
the only direct quotes from the book.  And very almost the only remaining
relics from the novel.

Too bad, some of this material wasn't dramatized instead of read.
I was kinda looking forward to what mr. C would do with that talking
asshole routine.

>This is not light fare for the raised-on-TV-entertainment addicts.
>
>>Gervais Wan
>
>--
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donm.
From: hri.com!delanzo@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:35:00 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.
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> 
>  In <1992Jul 16.022059. 10668@nntpd2.cso.dec.com> KWorkman writes:
> 
> >I'm interested in general trivia on Christopher Walken.  I really like
> >him in Batman Returns and Brainstorm and plan to watch some of his other
> >movies like Dead Zone.  I'm more curious about the person (ie vital
> >statistics, fan clubs, general trivia etc...  Your responses greatly
> >appreciated.  - Kw
> 

Two people that Walken "hangs around" with are James Woods and Peter
Weller. Now if that doesn't tell you how strange he is ... If I saw the
three of them walking down the street I'd run the other way. 

-md

BTW, I like the work of all three actors.
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From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Chuckorama)
Subject: Greta Scacchi again - AUGGGH! What is she?
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:58:14 GMT

Hey everyone - 
	My new found love is Greta, but now I'm really confused. I got answers
from several people saying she's English, American, Australian, and Italian,
which didn't help matters any. Is she married? What's her ethnicity, really?
I just saw "Good Morning, Babylon" Pretty Good. Has anyone seen her movie
of last year with Jimmy Smits entitled "Fires Within"?

		Chuck
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