HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Multi-cultural scourge
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:40:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:

[Story of The Bunny-Hugging Gardener deleted for brevity...]

>So can anyone tell me exactly when capitalism fell out of favor with
>the PC? (or should that be the multi-cultural?)  This babe didn't even
>have any electricity or running water at her house because she didn't
>want to feed capitalism.  She gripes about the logging companies and
>heats her house with wood.  She gripes about off-shore drilling and
>drives a 60's vintage Maverick.  

Reminds me of a visit to Glastonbury Festival a few years back. During a
quiet sunny afternoon I noticed that the "Green Field" was going to host
a discussion on the recently government-quashed Stonehenge Free
Festival. It was going to feature Michael Eavis, the farmer who has put
on the Glastonbury festival for most of the last 20 years, and I figured
it'd be worth a look.

The debate itself was ok, if a little unrealistic concerning the
possibility of actually negotiating with the government and the Police.
It then degenerated into a squabble about waht to to about a roaming
band of psychopathic hippies who got their kicks by busting up small
festivals. Itwas apparently against the hippy ethic just to ban 'em,
though in 1992 they asked the Police just to not let 'em arrive (and
paid, from our ticket prices, the cost of a festival of their own a good
few miles away).

Still, having seen 'em, it was money well spent.

Anyway, Having discovered that it was cool in the shade of the
"Discussion Space" (tent) and having thoughtfully packed some beers, I
hung around for the next discussion. This turned out to be several rants
from femi-nazis who had quit capitalism to roam around on buses and hold
"womyn's festivals" (probably in between registering for dole money."

One launched into an amazing tirade against "technology" which is
apparently a male conpiracy to enslave the minds of womyn everywhere.
Several choice passages were reserved for "computers" which I
unfortunately didn't write down.

So after hearing this, and realising that I was in a Space where I could
"actualise" my person and contribute in a non-aggressive fashion, I
piped up with the opinion that perhaps she'd appreciate all this
technology more when she went into the hospital to have her baby?

This provoked another tirade where she ranted about hospitals as
factories producing illness and how she'd never let any of that
technology get anywhere near anything so innocent and sacred as a child.

Then I noticed something, and with an evil glint in my eye said "I'd
really like to continue this discussion but I think I have to meet some
people soon, do you have the time please?"

Whereupon she consulted her digital watch and told me it was twenty past
three.

I smiled and left.

>drew

FoFP
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: antipope@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (charless@scol.sco.com)
Subject: Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see?
Organization: The IBM PC User Group On-line services
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:37:29 GMT

Actually, despite the idiocy of the original message, he's got a point.

There IS a new piece of software I'd like to see developed.

One that shorts out the PSU through a serial port/keyboard line
on receipt of a command message from moi. Reserved, I should add,
solely for dorks like this ...

-- 
Antipope -- HE gives you Bull, I give you the Straight ... er ....
From: mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael S Zraly)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Man mauled by lion
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:44:01 GMT
Organization: UMass/Boston

Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>And lo, jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) spake unto the masses saying:
>> A man is seriously ill [...]
>> What *is* peeeworthy is that the event was video'd by a tourist, and the
>> video was shown on TV *MINUS* the bit where the lion actually chowed down
>> on his human lunch. [...]
>You must've been watching the wrong news broadcasts - at least one of them
>showed the lion-loony interaction, albeit not in very much detail.

If this happened in Amurrica, 1 of two things would have happened:

1) The video would've have been bootlegged and would now appear in
video rental shops all over the nation.  Some kind soul would have
rented it, scanned the gruesome parts, and posted GIFs to the
appropriate newsgroups.

2) Some network or movie producers or *someone* would have paid between
$10,000 and $100,000 for the privilege of making a movie about this
incident.  (Currently the "Amy Fisher Story" -- the story of an 18(?)
year old prostitute who shot her customer's wife -- is making the
rounds on US trash TV.)

Ain't capitalism grand?

-- 
Mike Zraly		Scorn and defiance; slight regard, contempt,
mzraly@cs.umb.edu	And any thing that may not misbecome
			The mighty sender, ...
				-- HENRY V: Exeter to the Dauphin
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Donald Mac Piobreacht)
Subject: Re: Goodbye, Ed
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Cumann Piobairi Alba
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:43:29 GMT


JB is Jenny Ballman, and Banta is 242# etc.:

JB>Your friend might have a new buddy in the Happy Hunting Grounds soon.
JB>My husband and I just had The Talk at the surgeon's.  His lung cancer
JB>is pretty early, though, and at best he will lose only half a lung.

Banta>Cool!  Do you get to keep the half lung?  Can you take a picture of
Banta>it and scan it in.  I've always had this urge to know what a
Banta>chancerous chunk of flesh looks like.

I wonder how well it'd work with blowpipe, chanter and drones.
--
From: motteler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Howard E. Motteler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Telephone peeves
Date: 4 Jan 1993 09:07:17 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu
Summary: pre-owned numbers

dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Archer) writes:
> Ever since I got this one phone line, I've always gotten an
> outrageous amount of wrong numbers.  [ details omitted ]

A particularly obnoxious case is when you get stuck with a
number that collection agencies are hitting on.  This has
happened to me several times.  Four years ago, we were assigned
a 'pre-owned' number previously owned by the "Clarks," a
family of deadbeat jedrs.

We got calls from collection agencies at that number for YEARS.
They simply would not believe us when we told them we were not
the Clarks, or that even if we were the Clarks, whatever
creditor could freeze in hell and eat shit-biscuits before
they'd get a penny from us.  I tried pretending to *be* the
Clarks, and offering to pay real soon: "Honest, I'll get it all
paid back just as soon as I sell off these last couple of
kilo's..."  Nothing worked, but after about the third year, the
calls gradually tapered off.

We still get calls from the Clark's relatives, some of whom
agree with us that the Clarks are not the best money managers.

The first time I got a number with pre-existing creditors was
back in the 70s.  I complained to the phone company, and they
reassured me that the chances of such a thing happening were a
million to one, and offered me another number.  What they
actually meant was that the chances of getting the number of
*that particular* deadbeat was a million to one.  However, the
chance of being assigned the number of *some* deadbeat
approaches certainty.

The one time I didn't get a deadbeat, I got the number of a
family with a much sought after teenage daughter.  I got regular
calls for 'Ronda Ryan' for a semester or so.  These eventually
dwindled, perhaps because I always tried to answer in a helpful
fashion, e.g,

  "Is Ronda there?"  
  "No she's in the shower right now.  Who's this?"
  "Tom."
  "Oh, *Tom*.  Well, this is her brother." (No idea if she
had a brother, but maybe neither did Tom.)  "She said that she's
leaving her window unlatched for you, and just come on by sometime
after 11:30 tonight."
  "Oh wow! ok!"

Of course, *I've* never left behind a phone number in a
disreputable state... mostly because we just don't take incoming
calls.  We buffer them with a generic factory-installed
answering machine message, or just tie up the line with a
dial-out.

-- 
Howard E. Motteler,  motteler@umbc4.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: alekz@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Alekz Vermont)
Subject: Re: morning
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:13:29 GMT


Peeve: my mailer.  yesterday i posted various articles in various
newsgroups and my mailer was having trouble and none of the articles i
posted seemed to show up--causing me to re-post paraphrazes of the
"oh-so-important" things i had to say yesterday.....and if they DID show,
i know some kind soul out there will flame me for re-posting....


In article <jvzr4=k@lynx.unm.edu> baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:
>In article <mhart.726408398@blackjack> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:
>>>no matter how you slice it or dice it,
>>>7:55am still snarfs.  
>>
>>Shit.  7:55.  Try 0500 for a couple of years.

Hey!  morning varies from user to user.  7:55am is *very* painful for
me... i used to work graveyard shifts and firmly belive the _only_ reason
to be up at 0500 is if you've been up all night!

i'm sorry that you have to get up that early.... i would die.


!Peeve:  the new "Washington-Baltimore" metropolitan area.
we already have the BW (Balto-Wash) Parkway, and the BWI (Balto-Wash)
Airport, and skadillions of other _BW_ things -- so why are we becoming
_WB_ now that "they" have decided to make us the new twin-city metro area?
not to mention that baltimore is an older and more historical city, and is
also a very LARGE city (i think maybe larger than WDC)... aarrrgggghhhhh!!!

--
alekz"go on and flame me--you know you want to"vermont
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: I Don't Care
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:06:08 GMT
Organization: FizzBall Racing
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

Foolishly, (Rick Gordon) writes:
>This is not a promising opening.  Mr. Poller apparently thinks he'll make
>a stronger case if he flatters me first.  We'll see about that.  

That wasn't flattery, Rick.  That was a blowjob.

>On with the challenge!

That I should have such lofty standards.  Someday, I'll reach the
level of consciousness where I can kick lame dogs and spit in the eyes
of babes.

>Sorry, Jack, but if you'll check your sources I think you'll find Carrie
>Fisher played John Belushi's ex-girlfriend in "The Blues Brothers".  I
>think that makes it two-nil in my favor.

Wrongo, Rick.  She played the ex-hosebag of Jake Blues in "The Blues
Brothers."  The dean's wife played John Belushi's girlfriend in
"Animal House."

>No, afraid not.  Grasping at straws, are we?  No matter, it was *fun*
>matching wits with you, ah ...

*Matching* wits?  You make it look more like collecting them and
trading them with your friends.  Hardly a match made in heaven.

>Well, then.  Who's next?

So many gauntlets, so little time.

andy
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
 by those who have not got it."
                                -- George Bernard Shaw
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Is is just me, or...
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:29:29 GMT

This is, to me, a major NOTpeeve:
I was just aimlessly changing cable TV channels the other night and happened
on one of those stand-up comic shows.  This one really struck me right:


Is it just me, 
or do you really hate it too,
when somebody says:
"Is it just me, or..."



	Bob "planning never to use it again" O'Bob
--
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Yes, Yes, Let's Talk About the Weather
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:25:05 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Ant Refuge


Peeve: I paid $150 dollars for a one-way ticket to San Francisco
from New York City years ago and *expected* to live in a place where
my ears are not so cold that they hurt and I have a fear that
they will shatter and fall off.

Hah! I say. Hah! Its cold here. The folks outside CA probably think
I am being a Big Baby (OK, so I am - TOUGH), but its COLD here.

Remember Jack London describing how cold a night is by how many of the
sled dogs want to sleep with you? (That is where "Three Dog Night"
comes from.) Well, its been 4 cat nights this week and I am getting
tired of it. So, I toss the little buggers on the floor.

What happens? They complain. Meow. Moo-wow. Eh-Eh. ROW. (They each
speak a different dialect of meow.) So, I acquiesce and let them back
in to shut them up. I would lock them outside, but I remember this one
cat I used to have who got a very expensive respiratory infection every
time we had a cold snap.

Feh. Feh. Feh. And Meow.


-- 
"God must hate the common people, because he made them so common."
			--Philip Wylie
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Los Altos Rod & Gun Club
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:08:40 GMT
Organization: FizzBall Racing
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

Suffering from quite an overrun problem, (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide) writes:
>JZ - Short hair, 

WIDE part.

>short beard. (Although I will admit it needed a trim on 

JZ has toyed with different levels of facial hair.  During the couple
weeks of the clean-shaven look, people would swear they saw me
lunching with the Pillsbury dough boy, incarnate.

>Saturday) Weighs in at about 228 pounds avoirdupois on a 6'0" frame. Noted 
>for his blonde hair and blue eyes. 
>
>Banta - Hair halfway down his back and a beard that should remind anyone of
>the last time you saw a ZZ Top video. Weighs in at a well-recorded 242
>pounds on a 6'4" frame. 

6'6".  When measuring my height, you start at the floor, not at my
ankle.  If you measured my height the way you measure your dick length,
(that, starting at the butthole) I'd be 3'2".

>Curtis -  Roughly 5'8" - looks like a college student with a big 
>allowance. Maybe 140 pounds soaking wet. Looks like the "before" 
>picture in a Charles Atlas ad in the back of Popular Science. 

You really can't get those heights right, can you?  Curtis is taller
than 5'8".  JZ probably couldn't even see the top of Curtis' head, to
watch the swirling vortex of hair emerge from the single point on the
top of his head.  Curtis does tend to slouch, as if he's suffered a
semi-painful male athletic injury.  This is highly unlikely, as the
only exercise Curtis does in repetitions is pushing his glasses up his
nose.  I'm sure that if someone asked Curtis if he pulled his groin,
he'd reply "Daily."

>Jenny - about 5'6", dark curly hair. Bahstan Accent. Nice tits. 

That's funny, Jeff.  I remember someone slightly shorter who sounded
like she was from New York.  She refused to say if it was the shooting
or the temperature that made her nipples hard at the firing range.

drewsome
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The only sports are auto racing and bull fighting, all the rest are games."

						--Ernest Hemingway
From: Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Telephone peeves
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:05:46 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1i8uo5INN9ce@news.umbc.edu> motteler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Howard E. Motteler) writes:
>dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Archer) writes:
>> Ever since I got this one phone line, I've always gotten an
>> outrageous amount of wrong numbers.  [ details omitted ]
>
>A particularly obnoxious case is when you get stuck with a
>number that collection agencies are hitting on.

A related phenomenon that's always peeved hell out of me is having some
<feminine hygeine reservoir> dial your number by mistake, and then argue
with you about it, never mind the gender or accent on the other end, or
the acknowkedged wrongness of the number:

*RING*
--Hello? 
--Is Debby there?
--Uh, I think you've got the wrong number...
--Is this 555-1234?
--No it's 555-1432.
--You're sure Debbie's not there?
[etc.]

Of course, these alleged people have the same clairvoyance as all other
telephone peevogens that allows them to call just as you're in the
shower/on the loo/burning dinner.  How do they do it?
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: antipope@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (charless@scol.sco.com)
Subject: Bruised but not beaten
Organization: The IBM PC User Group On-line services
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:00:38 GMT
Summary: have you ever had one of those years?

Look, I'm still here. Sort of. And boy, am I peeved.

I have so many fucking peeves I don't know how I made it through 
the last month or two. No, I'm not going to post about them all.
One of the biggest peeves of all is a  particularly nastly  
bit of internicine back-biting which socked me for six last 
month. I am _not_ going to talk about it in public; the parties
concerned don't read this group but I don't want to risk it getting
back to them. Grr. As if that wasn't bad enough, I then had half
a year's worth of bills drop on me over Christmas, most of my 
holiday plans went awry, my uucp host went up in smoke, and the 
insurance company decided to get nasty over my claim for a 
replacement. Then the Inland Revenue decided to send me a spare
tax bill, something that looked like a potential promising relationship
went off at right-angles to where I'd expected, and then I
get some more bad news -- another rewrite needed on the book. 
So I capped it all by getting ill.

So if you had a bad time over the festive season, take heart. (If
you had a worse time than I had, fuck off and die.) Christmas sucks.
Sod the season of goodwill -- the livid depths of despair and
despondency is more like it. I wish I'd never encountered the month
of December, 1992, and I'm going to make a long habit of never
having to live through it again. As for the new year ...

Life-style changes are due in a big way. Time to chill out, get that
home newsfeed sorted, go on lots of walking holidays, hit foreign 
shores, do some living. Meet new people, do new things. And try to
put 1992 behind me.

>>> Charlie Stross (aka charless@scol.sco.com, antipope@ibmpcug.co.uk,
    and [probably] antipope@church.org)

    -- UNIX-alienated text mangler


-- 
Antipope -- HE gives you Bull, I give you the Straight ... er ....
From: bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Mack Daddy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: women without rhythm
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:20:42 GMT
Organization: The People's Number Four Cat Farm, Berkeley CA, USA

Don't you hate it when you're fucking a woman who has no sense of
rhythm?  Rather than getting plenty of friction when you're humping
her, she's either having an epileptic fit or she perfectly matches your
backthrust with her outthrust.

I've concluded that they have the same gene that [white] folks who go
to concerts have -- you know, the ones who clap on the up-beat rather
than the down-beat and can't even do that regularly, trashing the
entire crowd within 4 bars.

!Peeve: Half of my wife has natural rhythm.
-- 
real address: bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us
last choice:  lll-winken!catnip.berkeley.ca.us!bandy

"Free at last!  Free at last!  Thank God Almighty I'm free at last!"
 -- M. L. King
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Man mauled by lion
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:21:56 GMT
Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com


mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:

>>Sounds like one of Babs's field-trips to me.

>Well, I for one would like to be invited to the next field trip.


Be advised that Babs's field trips are strictly BYOS (bring your own sock).



Geoff


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From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Geoff, Let Me Explain..  (Was: I Don't Care)
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:13:22 GMT
	<1ifdkhINNnjl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

<In article <1ifdkhINNnjl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

<>Peeve1:  Is it just me, or has this Amy Fisher business gone on far too long?

<   Didn't she play Princess Leia (sp?) in Star Wars?


	No, Amy was the understudy for that part; she got fired 
	after rubbing Luke's lightsword the wrong way...
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Man mauled by lion
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:39:50 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

A man is seriously ill in hospital after climbig into the lion's
enclosure at London Zoo. This is not, in itself, peeveworthy, unless
you're the individual in question, for whom being turned into meatloaf
by the King of Beasts must have put a bit of a damper on his festive spirit.
What *is* peeeworthy is that the event was video'd by a tourist, and the
video was shown on TV *MINUS* the bit where the lion actually chowed down
on his human lunch. They show the man crouching down in the lion's enclosure,
and the lion strolling around the place, but the bit with rending of flesh and
other interestin' stuff is carefully omitted.





-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

This message cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Bloody good value if you ask me.
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Raw vs. Ripe (Was: Man mauled by lion)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:36:08 GMT
Organization: FizzBall Racing
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

In article <ATAYLOR.93Jan9160316@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:
>	I'm at a loss to know the difference between "raw" and "ripe"
>	hand grenades; since all grenades nowadays are green, I s'pose
>	they're all "raw"

Get it straight, boy:  A "raw" hand grenade passes through all tty
input without canonical processing.

"He does to have to shoot me now."  - D. Duck

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
 by those who have not got it."
                                -- George Bernard Shaw
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: S. Bogroll
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:28:57 GMT

In <1993Jan8.153159.10002@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

[gif deleted]
 
>> Hey! He doo look like a sheepdawg. Damn!

>The general opinion around Dolthouse is he looks like Mr. Ed on bad acid...

>Just thought y'awl might like to know.
>Mike

Well, Steve WAS from a horsey part of Calgary...

And the bad acid was particle physics.
  -Bill
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 10:19:09 GMT
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Followup-To: alt.peeves,alt.religion.kibology,alt.test,alt.personals.bondage,sci.aquaria,
 misc.test,misc.headlines,comp.lang.postscript,news.test,alt.peeves
 <1993Jan3.074343.10103@netcom.com> <C0B05F.MM3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <O85fs*rR0@prolix.apana.org.au>
Organization: ACME Dynamite Co.

dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:

> Not only did 'uni.dac.northwest' come into vogue during
> November/December, now some OTHER 'DACC' is coming in, making
> grepping for 'Dac' just ever so tedious. 

In other words, you've never done an original thing in your life?

							- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb?"
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