From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Current Storylines
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:00:58 GMT
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In article <1992Dec18.230709.22826@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, kelly.smith writes:

> In article <lj4as4INN1n4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, pinyan@goodlife.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Pinyan) writes:
> > 
> > I know there is still a lot of Carly-bashing going on, so I thought it
> > was time to stick out my neck again.  I haven't been flamed in a while
> > and I guess I just miss it.  :)
> > 
> > Anyway, I LIKE the story now - things are moving fast and some of the
> > things that really bother most of you don't bother me:
> > 
> > 1) Carly didn't tell Bo.
> > 	Bo's an asshole and very immature.  Besides that, Lawrence is
> 
> 	Agreed he an a**hole but I wouldn't say he couldn't handle it.

     True.  Also, if we'd ever seen something where Carly talked
about how worried she was about Bo's immaturity or temper, I
might be able to buy that better.  But all she ever said was she
didn't think he could handle it.  Why not?  Jeez, if you're gonna
marry someone you should give them the benefit of the doubt.  And
I agreed with every word Bo said to Carly on Friday.  Way to go
Bozo!  And did everyone notice...once again CC was on every day,
and got to do lots of crying (which she really should
avoid....her enunciation is bad under the best of circumstances.
When she cries she gets this slurry whine in her voice that just
gets to me)
> 
> > 	still as evil as ever because he IS manipulating Carly.  I love
> 
> 	I just don't find this interesting at all.  

     I don't like it.  He's not being 'bad-guy' manipulative,
he's manipulating her cause he wants to be with her and raise
their son together...in other words he's being 'wuss-dude'
manipulative.  He made a great sociopath, now he's a wimp.  Get
him and the bitch together and get them off my tv set already.
> 
> > 	that he hasn't lost his edge yet.  He has manipulated her into
> > 	believing that Bo wouldn't understand and that it could hurt
> > 	Nikki.  It is very believable (to me) that she would do
> > 	ANYTHING to protect her son especially because of all the lost
> > 	time.
> 
> 	This makes absolutely no sense (that she would believe it could
> 	hurt Nikki).  Bo knows she had a son by the man and accepted it.
> 	Why would his feelings change because he's alive?  I think Larry
> 	has total dissolved as an a bad guy.  The way he's constantly
> 	with the 'he's OUR son' is so lame.  I would be much more interested
> 	if he tried to make Nikki hate Carly.  This I would find devious
> 	this undying love for Carly has got to go.

     Agreed.  Also, I'm gonna set myself up for a flaming here.
Now I'm not a parent (thank god) but isn't this instant bond
between Carly and Nicky and LAwrence a little bizarre?  I mean,
Carly liked the kid when she met him, but then she finds out he's
hers and she immediately bonds?  And doesn't even take into
acount that he's a great little guy thanks to Viv's upbringing
(ops, I guess it's Carly's genes that did it!).  I mean, she
finds out he's hers and immediately wants to take him away from
the only mother he's ever known and is surprised when Viv gets
upset?  And what's this about Larry as super-dad?  This is a man
who's into rape, murder, explosions, ruining people's lives, all
that good stuff.  He finds out he has a kid and immediately turns
into Ward Cleaver?  I think Kim ain't the only one with a
personality disorder here!  I could buy it if we were shown, for
instance, that he really was sociopathic, (consistent with
previous character development) but was pretending to care about
Nicky in order to get Carly back, but really didn't care about
the kid.
> > 
> > 2) Jenn went over to Lawrence's.
> > 	I would run through fire for my best friend.  If Jenn had gone
> > 	over to console and be with <insert character name>, would you
> > 	still think it was bad?
> 
> 	It's the circumstances surround her little visit.  She went
> 	to her rapist's house.  The man who raped her, then terrorized
> 	her.  Had it been at Carly's room at the inn, or apartment,
> 	I would not have had any problem with it.  I know I wouldn't
> 	go hanging at my rapist house even if my best friend had a
> 	child by him.

     Hey, I'd say people who know me would classify me as nice.
Really sweet is how I'm usually described.  I'd walk through my
best friend.  But if someone raped me the only reason I'd go to
their home is with a gun to use it on them.  And if my best
friend actually spent time with my rapist doing something other
than beating him upside the head with a baseball bat until he was
a bloody mess, I'd have to seriously rethink our friendship.
Especially if my friend's lies led to my rape.
> > 
> > And finally, it seems that the Carly-bashers love Jack and Jenn - let's
> > talk about using the FF button and a stupid storyline.  This one hasn't
> > caught me at all.  I'm down to watching 2 stories -
> 
> 	I don't love Jenn, but I do love Jack.  I loved him BEFORE
> 	Carly was ever mentioned.  The man can act and has been
> 	ignored and instead we are treated to the days of Carly.
> 	Jack has been on much longer and deserves much more air time.	
> 	Jenn has her good and bad days.  There is also something more
> 	there than just a story.  It's the chemistry.  There was a
> 	scene on a Monday where you can see it.  The one where they
> 	are laughing and talking about missing the little things they
> 	used to do.  I don't see this in Carly and Larry.  What I do
> 	see is a whimpering Carly crying on a man she tried everything
> 	to avoid.  She left Larry because he used a fake name, well
> 	what about the web of lies she's told?  I will admit, Jack
> 	and Jenn's story is stupid, but I prefer watching someone who
> 	(IMHSHO) has proved he has talent.  What Jack and Jenn need is
> 	an adventure.  Jack and Jenn work well with each other and rather
> 	than the 'errs split them up, let them work together.

     Some of their early stuff was really great.  They are a
wonderfu comedic duo and both have a great sense of timing.
Unfortunately the 'errs don't.  Yes, their stories suck.  My
personal theory is that TPTB want to make Matt and Missy so
pissedoff and unsatisfied they'll quit and so there won't be a
better supercouple on the show than Bo and Carly and M&M will
quit showing them up. :-).  Jack and Jenn work really well
together.  I would love to see them do something like go
somewhere on a story and get involved in a great
mystery/adventure.  But the 'errs have proven themselves
incapable of writing one *sigh*
> 	
> > Carly/Lawrence/Nikki/Vivian, and Marlena/Roman/John (because the John
> > and Marlena stories were SO good that I see some promise here - I've
> > even found Roman and Marlena easier to watch).
> 
> 	John and Marlena do show some promise.

     I agree.  But I hope we're not treated to more adultery.
Ewwwww!
> 
> > 
> > OK - there it is - flame away.  :)
  
    Okay! :-)

> > Ann
> > 
> 
> 			Boysies

          Roserooni
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