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From: mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow)
Subject: Re: Buying a bicycle for a short person - I'm 5'2"
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:25:03 GMT

barman@jackson.cs.unc.edu (Dilip Barman) writes:



>Hi -

>     I have ridden my Panasonic for close to 10 years now and am very impressed
>with its strength and durability - but it's heavy!!  I can easily fit on it
>with full size wheels (27?) because the cross-tube starts off with a downward
>curve.  But now that I am thinking of getting a new bike (much lighter!),
>I just can't find anything I can fit on.  I am looking for a touring bike
>which can carry panniers and is sturdy.  I'd prefer a triple crank as I need
>all the help I can get going up hills!

>     The only options I seem to have are Terry bikes (but isn't it strange
>and uncomfortable having a small front wheel?), Kestrel (but for around 
>$2000!!!), and maybe a Canondale hybrid w/ drop handlebars - I might fit.
>Oh, and the other option is a custom bike which I understand will cost
>me around $1500 w/ good but not great components.

>     Do you guys have other suggestions?  I know I'm short, but surely there
>are a good number of other short bikers.  I'm between 5'1" and 5'2".
>Thanks!!

>-- 
>  Dilip Barman
>  Dept. of Computer Science:		Home:			
>  University of North Carolina		5129 Oakbrook Drive
>  Sitterson Hall 365, CB 3175		Durham, North Carolina 27713-8005
High Neighbor. Depending upon your torso length you could fit on
a mixte 19" if its effective top tube lenggth is sohort enough. But
for the most part the 27"/700c wheel in back and the 24" wheel in
front is the way to go. Not only Terry, but Fuji and several others
make bikes like this now. Although it is possible to make a small
seat tube bike (e.g. 17" -18") with both wheels full size, it requires
a rather shallow head tube angle (e.g 70 degrees rather than the usual
72-73 degrees) to get adequate clearance between toe clips and the
front wheel.
-- 
Michael Volow, Psychiatry, Durham VA Med Center, Durham NC 27712
919 286 0411 Ext 6933               mvolo@uncecs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Re: Where to mailorder 26"x1" tubes?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:28:33 GMT

>>[Where can I get 26" x 1" tubes?]
>[Try Cyclopedial, Excel Sports; both have ph. #'s in the FAQ.]

Be sure also you know whether you're getting road racing (650) or MTB
(not sure the designation) 26" tubes, since the two are quite different
wheel diameters.

		;-D on  ( Diameter or Di trying )  Pardo
From: jake@introl.com (Joel Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Drafting etiquette?
Date: 25 Dec 1992 11:38:51 -0600
Organization: Introl Corp.
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com

Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com writes:
>Some riders write me off as worthless
>because of the bell on my aero bars -- I can hear them laughing
>as I pass them.

this reminds me...  i wonder who's bright idea it was to start bringing
a bell into races.  i was in about 6 different crits where someone had
a bell on their bike somewhere, and would ring it EVERY time past the
line.  the first few times, i started laughing so hard i almost crashed.
it was kind of neat watching the people who were either not paying very
close attention or were just clueless take off every time, notice no one
was chasing, and slip back into the pack.

an interesting tactic though.  heh.  only in cat4 will you get people
biting for that...


jake "sounds like something dave harvey would do"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (Adrian Pepper)
Subject: Re: Helmet Law Wars
Organization: University of Waterloo Math Faculty Computing Facility, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:07:13 GMT

In article <9212201944.AA14857@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> HUGO@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Tony Dziepak) writes:
>
>In fact, wearing a helmet might actually INCREASE medical costs
>because medical services would be rendered to a person who would
>otherwise have died instantly from head trauma.  (You don't bother
>to cast the broken bones of a dead person.)
>
Oh gosh.  Maybe they should make helmets illegal, then?  8-)

Adrian.
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Santa checked my list!
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:02:28 GMT

ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
>Bridgestone	1992 MTB-3		$800	Rode larger size
>		1992 MTB-4		$670	Rode it

That's not a great price on a 1992 MB-3.  It's a great bike but not a great
price.

>The Bridgestone's were both light bikes to the point of seeming almost
>"twitchy".  The MTB-3 got more consideration from me than the MTB-4.
>I liked the MTB-3 ride and didn't really like the MTB-4 ride.  The MTB-3
>frame is definitely nice (thanks for the suggestion guys) and I thought
>about special ordering a 1993 MTB-3.  The dealer's order for 1993's
>was due in late Jan. or early Feb. and they suggested that I could special
>order a 1993 if I wanted.  They told me (may be true) that Bridgestone
>only ships bikes out of one location in the US, and further
>commented that Bridgestone was a large company world wide and "seems"
>to treat other countries better than the US - what?!

Bridgstone has some MB-3's from 92 that they are selling to dealers for
$549.  You should see if they have any in your size and have your dealer
give you a good price.  Note the $549 is the dealers price not yours.
How much do they want for a 93 MB-3?  It sounds like their overcharging you for
the 92.  Bridgestone gets alot of their bikes from Japan and they are shipped
into California.  The Bridgestone company is Bridgestone U.S.A.  The bikes they
sell in the U.S are completely different from the bikes they sell in Japan so
I don't see how they coul be treating other countries better.  Bridgestone
is a great company, they really stand behind their product and are very
carful about what components they use.  Not like Trek who uses all Shimano
because they get a better price.  Look at this years or last years
Bridgestone catalog, it wil give you a good feel for their policies.
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: mcobb@scott.skidmore.edu (mary cobb)
Subject: Tires, tires, tires...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 15:05:37 GMT

I like riding fast, but I have a problem with tires.  I have a Univega
Range Rover-10, with the back wheel replaced with a Specialized mountain
tire and the original front road/off-road Generic still on (which I plan
on replacing in the near future).
 
I have a paper route and use my bike every morning, and require 'grippy'
tires for traction when cutting across lawns & riding in snow.  But in the
summertime I like to ride my bike to school and want to get there as fast as
possible.  With my current setup, I have maxed out at 38 mph according to my
little Cateye, and that's downhill.  I changed and re-packed the bearings, but
that didn't have much of an effect other than ease my mind that the bearings
were in good condition.  I really don't want to change tires when I get home
to go to school.  (Yes, I'm still in high school, I don't commute to college
or anything like that).

What would you suggest?  Getting a whole different set of rims and just
popping new rims (with road tires) on when I plan on going out for a road
ride?  (Would that get expensive with having to buy another gear cluster
and everything for the other set?)  Thanks for any responses in advance.
 
Eric
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng)
Subject: Re: Where to mailorder 26"x1" tubes?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:53:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.232952.17462@athena.mit.edu> august@athena.mit.edu (Susan K. Raisty) writes:


   Subject line says it.  I can't seem to find these tubes ANYWHERE for 
   a reasonable price.  Nashbar is always out whenever I call, Performance
   doesn't carry them.  The local shop wants ~$7 (!!!!) per tube!   I have
   no spares left and am afraid to go anywhere.

Sue,

Try Cyclopedia.

--

Spencer Cheng     scheng@BNR.CA  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada  613-763-4046
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: it's another boy
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:50:21 GMT

Matthew Lee Henry

9 lbs 4 oz (racing weight)

21 in (center to top)

12/28/1036/1992

Son of tourer extrodinaire Sam Henry and
erstwile racer April Henry.  Brother of
velo femme Rachel Michelle and TdF (TIOOYK)
2015 winner Jeffrey Lanaux.

And April looks up and sez:  "This time I am
STAYING on the Bianchi".


-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: take this bike quiz.....
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:10:36 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <freshair.724970697@pv0c03.vincent.iastate.edu>, freshair@iastate.edu (James W Gregory) writes:
> 
>     HOW WELL DO YOU KNOW YOUR BIKE?  TAKE THIS QUIZ----->

(quiz deleted)

This reminds me of an article in a cycling magazine I saw recently about how
many parts there were to a standard set of 32-spoke wheels - over 300!

Jonathan.
From: a_babel@pavo.concordia.ca (AARON BABEL)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Ohio bound
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:39:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



	I am a Canadian who desires to bike down to Bridgeport Ohio from
Montreal, Quebec, this summer.  I desire speed and safety.  Can anyone
recommend, at least, a first stage?


Thanks...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                     Pain and frustration is travelling
                        a long distance, with a
                         heavy bike, while the
                     terrain is all uphill and the wind
                              is against you.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 18:04:30 MST
From: <ICSKRL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: Whats in Phoenix Arizona

Yes, the cycling is good in Phoenix and all over Az. for that matter.   I can't
really tell you what the road racing is like other than there are a lot of
races.   Of course there is the big race down in Bisbee every year that atracts
a lot of the big teams.   Mt. biking is very happening.   We have one of the
better state championship race series which is put on by the Mountain Bike
Association of Az..   There are great places to ride both mt. and road bikes
right in the city.   The Bike Barn is a great bike shop and is located in
central Phx..   I may be a little biased here since my wife is the manager.
One more thing, everywhere you go people will look at you strange if you are in
lycra, but their geeks anyway.
From: A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke)
Subject: DJCONNEL
Organization: Motorola
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:54:24 MST

 Dan -

Most climbs (the more difficult ones) are on the outskirts of the valley
The entire metro Phoenix area is skirted by various mountain ranges.
Within the valley, South Mountain Park provides a more than adequate pla
to satisfy any need you might have to climb. Traffic is very minimal
and posted limits are 15 mph (I think). Sorry I don't have any numbers
for you. Next time your in Tempe, give South Mountain Park a try. It's
only 10 - 20 minutes away depending on where you are in Tempe. There's
some great mountain biking in the park as well. If you need directions
or would like more info, here are some of the better bike shops in tempe
  Bike Masters
  Domenics
  Tempe Bike
.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Re: Assault on Mt. Mitchell
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 22:46:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.180615.28850@crd.ge.com> berkcan@mephistopheles.crd.ge.com (Ertugrul Berkcan) writes:

>A friend of mine is interested in doing the spring "Assault on Mt.
>Mitchell" in North Carolina this year.
>Apparently, because the ride has gotten so big, people now need to
>"qualify" for this century ride up the mountain, but she has been unable
>to get any other information on it.  

For info on the ride, send an SASE to Spartanburg Freewheelers, Box 6171,
Spartanburg, SC 29304.

I have done this ride twice (after swearing I would only do it once).
Last year they limited resgistration to the first 700 entrants (and 
some idiots on a tandem who sent a nice letter begging to be tortured:)

Amazingly, registration fills up early. It may already be full.

I wrote a ride report (surprise! surprise!) on our experiences dragging
the tandem up this wonderful mountain last spring. I'll send a copy 
to Ertugrul, but if anyone else is interested, let me know, and I'll
send you a copy too. 

Good luck to all who attempt it!

pamela
-- 
Pamela Blalock                                    pamela@keps.com
KEPS, 164 Lexington Road                          12 down, I'm done
Billerica, MA 01821-3984                          time to start over!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: James Peters <peters@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: century on New Year's Day
Originator: peters@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:45:29 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Dec28.224104.3054@keps.kodak.com> pamela@keps.com (Pamela Blalock) writes:
>Is anyone in the greater Boston area interested in joining me for a
>century on New Year's Day (provided it's dry)? Send me email, so
>we can get together.
>
>(Please note that I did restrict the distribution to ne. If you are 
>annoyed by this message appearing 2000 miles from Boston, I tried)
>
>pamela

that sounds like a fun thing especially if you ride to south boston
and join the L street brownies for a dip into boston harbor.

brrrrrr,
james, peters@convex.com
From: scsd1055@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Little Rock, Arkansas riding???
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:24:12 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

Hi all,

	My family may be moving to Little Rock, Arkansas sometime 
in the near future, and I am interested in hearing about road conditions
in and around Little Rock for cycling.   Could someone familiar with
the area give me some info on the road situation up there?   I currently
live in Southeast Louisiana, and can honestly say that I've seen off
road paths that were smoother than some of the La., roads that I've
ridden on!  UGH!

Thanks,
Bill Plunkett
scsd1055@selu.edu
From: CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET (Kevin Cole; Washington DC)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: East Coast to West Coast
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:30:20 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet Research Institute

P.S.  I plan to go east to west...  D.C. to anywhere except L.A.  Suggestions?
-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: tomd@netcom.com (Tom Dempster)
Subject: Re: Hawaii/Oahu rides
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:24:48 GMT

: You should probably ride with other people though
: since in some places the locals are not very friendly to Haole tourists.

I quess I would not dispute this, but folks might be interested in the
following:

I went to Maui in August. I was mentally prepared for some sort of 
harrassment, and thought the inevitable was about to occur on my first
ride as a pickup truck came up behind me with repeated blasts from the
horn. The driver was waving his arms frantically as he came up along side
and seemed to be trying to tell me something. Reluctantly I stopped, as did 
the driver, who then approached me with one of those water sacks one wears
over the shoulder while riding. Apparently he had found it on the road and
somehow became convinced it was mine. Naturally I felt like an idiot for
being so paranoid (Hey- I live in Oakland- I've got license to be terrified)
From: berkcan@mephistopheles.crd.ge.com (Ertugrul Berkcan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Assault on Mt. Mitchell
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:06:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY


Do you know 

A friend of mine is interested in doing the spring "Assault on Mt.
Mitchell" in North Carolina this year.

Apparently, because the ride has gotten so big, people now need to
"qualify" for this century ride up the mountain, but she has been unable
to get any other information on it.  

Could you please provide any info. that you may have on it? Have you
done this ride before? I would appreciate any details that you may
provide.

Thanks,


-- 
		Ertugrul Berkcan
        berkcan@crd.ge.com
        berkcan@mephistopheles.crd.ge.com
From: greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: East Coast to West Coast
Date: 22 Dec 1992 05:05:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Dec21.173020.1@gallua> CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET (Kevin Cole; Washington DC) writes:
>P.S.  I plan to go east to west...  D.C. to anywhere except L.A.  Suggestions?
>-- 
>

I would suggest the San Francisco Bay Area.  I moved out here from 
Virginia about five years ago.  Have found it to be a great area
to live and the biking opportunities are excellent.  The locals,
in cars, give bicyclists plenty of room on the road.  There is a
lot to see here(touristy).  There are also three international
airports here if your're only biking oneway.  If you're going to
bike both ways, there are at least a hundred bike shops here that
all do excellent work(repairs).

Good luck on your trip!
Post where you're going and when.

Greg
From: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: Missoula, Montana to Edmonton, Alberta ride?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 13:12:48 EST(-0500)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
Reply-To: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
Distribution: na
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0

mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun )) writes:
> I think that maybe you should call an organization named Bikecentennial
> that is headquartered in Missoula Montana.  They have the BEST maps that
> a bicycle tourist could possibly want.  Guess what?! They have the exact
> two maps that you are looking for! 
> 
> Call them at 1-800-933-1116 and ask for the Complete Great Parks North
> Route set of 2 maps.  This is item number BC-121 and cost to members is
> $8.95 and cost to non-members is $10.95.

I second the recommendation.  Note that nonmembers will additionally pay $3 for
shipping, which is free for members.  Membership is $22/year.

The 800 number is 7x24 but is strictly for orders.  If you have any questions,
call Bikecentennial at +1 406 721 8719 or +1 406 721 1776.

There is also a Bikecentennial-organized tour from Missoula to Jasper. 
Self-contained camping.  Call the 406 numbers for info.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
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From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Subject: Re: tips for long winter rides
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:19:27 GMT

I have added Pam's tips to the archives on draco.acs.uci.edu.


Mike
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: august@athena.mit.edu (Susan K. Raisty)
Subject: Whats in Phoenix Arizona
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:11:28 GMT

Is anyone out there from Arizona?  

I received a job offer in Phoenix, AZ so I was wondering how it is out there 
for cycling.  What are the good rides like?  How do you deal with the heat?
Whats the racing scene like, what about mtn. biking etc...  Do people look at 
you like you're an alien if you wear lycra shorts?  Are there good clubs, good
shops, etc...?

I'm from the SF Bay area which has some really good biking, and I sometimes
work out with the MIT cycling team here in sunny, warm Boston (NOT), if that
gives you a frame of reference.  

Thanks tons,
Sue Raisty
august@athena.mit.edu
From: greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Re: Mtn. Biking In California
Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:19:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Dec23.061342.14760@u.washington.edu> cadex@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ultra Design) writes:
>
>	Hello fellow mountainbikers,
>
>	I am from Washington state, and I am looking for some rides in
>	Northern California, and San Francisco area this Christmas break!
>
>	Please help me.
>
>	I will do the same for you if you want to do some here.  I will
>	even take you to some of the best spots.
>
>	Thanks in advance!
>
>	DEDICATED MOUNTAINBIKER.
>
>	
>
There are lots of good rides here.  I would recommend 
Lake Chabot , near Oakland.  It has about a 12 mile
loop trail with climbing and lots of downhill.  But,
beware on the few paved sections, the local police 
like to nail downhillers for speeding.  This is only
where you see speedlimit signs.  They use radar guns!

Another nice ride is Mission Peak, in Fremont.  It
takes me about one and a half hours of climbing to
reach the summit.  Then the fun begins, 3.5 miles of
fast downhill!  I have hit 47 mph (according to my
computer) on the way down.  Best time to ride it is
on weekdays, not many hikers or horses.

Another great ride is in Aptos (near Santa Cruz).
It has a nice steady nine mile climb under big
redwood trees and crosses a couple of streams.
When you get to the top, you get a nice veiw of
the Pacific Ocean.  Then, you have a nine mile
descent.

These are a few of my favorites.  I'm sure that
the many other mtn bikers in the bay area will
offer more choices.

Greg





Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.rides
From: pamela@keps.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: century on New Year's Day
Organization: KEPS Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:41:04 GMT

Is anyone in the greater Boston area interested in joining me for a
century on New Year's Day (provided it's dry)? Send me email, so
we can get together.

(Please note that I did restrict the distribution to ne. If you are 
annoyed by this message appearing 2000 miles from Boston, I tried)

pamela
-- 
Pamela Blalock                                    pamela@keps.com
KEPS, 164 Lexington Road                          12 down, I'm done
Billerica, MA 01821-3984                          time to start over!