From: rslade@cue.bc.ca (Rob Slade)
Subject: Logo FAQ (draft)
Organization: Computer Using Educators of B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:07:15 GMT

Someone asked for a FAQ, so ...

Q. Where can I buy Logo?
 
A.      Logo Computer Systems, Inc.
        3300 Cote Vertu Road, Suite 201
        Montreal, Quebec, Canada H4R 2B7
        800 321-LOGO
        514 331-7090
        They sell LogoWriter for Apple, PC, Mac, etc.
 
        Terrapin, Inc.
        400 Riverside St
        Portland, ME  04103
        207 878-8200
        They sell Logo for Apple, PC, Mac, etc.
 
        Paradigm Software, Inc
        P.O. Box 2995
        Cambridge, MA  02238
        617 576-7675
        They sell Object Logo for the Mac (an especially sophisticated
        version with object-oriented extensions).
Also sold through Computer Express (Sudbury MA, 800-228-7449) 
 
        Harvard Associates, Inc
        10 Holworthy St
        Cambridge, MA  02138
        800 776-4610
        They sell PC Logo.
 
WinLOGO has recently been ported to English.  A Mr. Shiva Raja is
presently working on U.S. marketing of the new English WinLOGO.  If
people are interested in obtaining more information about WinLOGO,
they should probably contact Mr. Raja directly.  His U.S. phone number
is (508) 263-1791.
 
bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU, berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA and fredm@media.mit.edu 
 
 
Q. Where can I get Logo cheap(ly)?
 
A. There is a "JEM LOGO" (the file I have is packaged in a
self-extracting archive called LOGO.COM).  Release 2 is copyright 1987
by James Moriartey
174 Garnet Crescent
Wetaskiwin, Alberta
Canada   T9A 2S6
It is shareware, with a price of $20.00.
 
There is also a (rather bizarre) "LOGO-like environment" called Roo.
It is by Forware Systems in Bulgaria, the US agent is listed as:
msapir@hoss.unl.edu
3125 Vine St
Lincoln, NE   68503
The files in the archive I have are mid-'91 to early '92.
 
rslade@fraser.sfu.ca 
 
 
Q. Where can I get Logo for free?
 
A. LSRHS Logo is obsolete, butget the file pub/combined.tar.Z from
anarres.cs.berkeley.edu for a newer version
 
The alpha test release of Berke
ley Logo is hereby officially
available by anonymous FTP.  "Alpha test" means that I know there are
bugs in it!  But you're welcome to try it if you understand that.
I'm happy to get bug reports but I don't promise anything.
 
FTP to anarres.cs.berkeley.edu and get the following files:
 
pub/logo.tar.Z          Unix sources and documentation
pub/ucblogo.zip         PC version, PKZIP form, including executable BL.EXE
pub/ucblogo.sit.hqx     Mac version, StuffIt/BinHex form, w/ executable Logo
pub/usermanual          Just the documentation file.
pub/csls.tar.Z          Logo programs from _Computer Science Logo Style_
 
Advantages of Berkeley Logo:
        * It's free.
        * It comes with source files (in C).
        * Logo programs are completely compatible among Unix, PC, and Mac.
Disadvantages of Berkeley Logo:
     * It's pretty slow.
        * It doesn't do anything fancy about graphics.  (One turtle.)
        * It still has bugs.  In particular, it runs out of memory easily.
 
MswLogo Version 2.1 for Micro-Soft Windows 3.X 
          at cher.media.mit.edu on pub/comp.lang.logo/programs/mswlogo
          (also doslogo)
 
bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) and mills@athena.lkg.dec.com 
 
 
Q. Where can I read up on Logo?
 
A. The MIT Press Logo books:
 
Clayson, James, "Visual Modeling with Logo"
        Geometric activities such as tiling, with a lot of detailed attention
        to actual patterns used in different cultures.
 
Cuoco, Albert, "Investigations in Algebra"
        Examples mainly from combinatorics and number theory used to develop
        ideas in abstract algebra.
 
Goldenberg, E. Paul, and Wallace Feurzeig, "Exploring Language with Logo"
           down to small units (sound and spelling of words).
 
Hoyles, Celia, and Richard Noss, "Learning Mathematics and Logo"
        Just out -- a collection of research papers about various aspects
        of the use of Logo in math classrooms.
 
Lewis, Philip G., "Approaching Precalculus Mathematics Discretely"
ith a very advanced look at the mathematics
        behind the graphics.
 
Harvey, Brian, "Computer Science Logo Style"
        My three-volume series:
            1.  Intermediate Programming
            2.  Projects, Styles, and Techniques
            3.  Advanced Topics
        The first volume is basically a Logo programming text with the
        emphasis on list processing (hardly any graphics).  The second
    is a collection of ten programming projects with commentary.
        The third is the first week of six college courses, from automata
        theory through compilers to artificial intelligence.
 
Solomon, Cynthia, "Computer Environments for Children"
        A research document describing and comparing four different
        approaches to the use of computers in education, including Logo.
 
 
_Learning with Logo_ by Daniel Watt, McGraw-Hill Book Company
I7-068570-3
 
_Nudges - Apple Logo Projects_ by Bull, Riordon, and Tipps  
Holt, Rinehart, and Winston SBN 0-03-002737-3
 
Another beginner's book on Logo is:
_Apple Logo_, by Harold Abelson
BYTE/McGraw-Hill,  ISBN 0-07-000425-0
 
Exporations in Logo 
Creative Publications
Sunnyvale 
 
bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU and led11@ccc.amdahl.com 
 
 
Q. Aside from comp.lang.logo, what other net lists/groups might be sueful?
 
A. There's comp.edu, where the original RFD for comp.lang.logo was posted.
 
The home school mail list.  It's new addresses are:
home-ed@alfalfa.com             Submissions for the list
ed-request@alfalfa.com     Subscription requests
 
Distance Educat. Data telnet sun.nsf.ac.uk or telnet 128.86.8.7
   (Login: janet  Hostname: uk.ac.open.acs.vax  Username: icdl)
 
Nat'l Education BBS   telnet nebbs.nersc.gov or telnet 128.55.160.162
   offers: Education BBS (Login: guest)
 
ISAAC                 telnet isaac.engr.washington.edu or 128.95.32.61
   offers: Info. System for Advanced Academic Computing, for IBM users.
 
List of Lists         ftp ftp.nisc.sri.com or ftp 192.33.33.22 
   offers:  List of interest groups/email lists in /netinfo/interest-groups.
 
rslade@fraser.sfu.ca 
 
 
Q. I think Seymour Papert is so *cute*!  How do I get in touch with him?
 
A.    name: Papert,  Seymour A
     email: SEYMOUR@MEDIA.MIT.EDU or papert@media-lab.mit.edu
The preferred e-mail address for Prof. Papert is
"seymour@media.mit.edu".  "papert@media.mit.edu" will work, but this
address is supposed to be used for priority messages and not general
inquiries. 
     phone: (617) 253-7851
   address: E15-313
department: Media Arts & Sci Sec
     title: Lego Professor Of Learning Research
     alias: S-papert
 
If you are interested in a bibliography of publications distributed by
Prof. Papert's research group (the Epistemology and Learning Group at
the MIT Media Lab), please send a request to "el-pub@media.mit.edu".
 
anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu and fredm@media.mit.edu 
 
 
Q. How can I get in touch with the inventor of Logo?
 
A. Logo was invented/developed at BBN in Cambridge, MA, by a group
headed by Wally Feureig
 
feurzeig@bbn.com  will probably work, although I occasionally
        get the E and the I reversed.
 
wex@cs.ulowell.edu 
 
 
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