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From: lilianstrom@NAGY.FNAL.GOV (If its too loud,  You're too old)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:13:57 GMT
Reply-To: lilianstrom@fndcd.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division, Special Projects Group
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In article <A7C980D37DDF0020EE@ucs.uwplatt.edu>, HANKES@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU writes:
>        For those interested, GoldKey Electronics is also offering a LAT
>        Ethernet interface that will plug into an HP LaserJet IIIsi or HP
>        LaserJet 4's expansion slot. They expect in a couple of months to have
>        one available for the rest of the HP LaserJet III family.
> 
>        They have 2 models available. One offers automatic switching between
>        PCL, Postscript, HP-GL, Sixel graphics and LN03 emulation. The other
>        simply passes data through to the printer. Cost is $1295.00 for the
>        auto-switching model and $895.00 for the other.
> 
>        I should add that we have not tried these out, but would be interested
>        to hear from anyone who has. We are using some of their serial
>        auto-switches and have found the quality and support to be very good.
>        They do tend be pricey, but they are in a niche market. Their phone #
>        is (603) 625-8518
> 
>        Stephan C. Hankes                 hankes@uwplatt.edu
>        Hardware Technician
>        University WI. Platteville
>        Platteville, WI.  53818
>        (608) 342-1204

The GoldKey device (made by XCd BTW) that I have on evaluation works just fine.  
It's installed in a IIISi doing both PostScript and PCL from a couple of 
VAXclusters. Works better than the orginal XCd card I tested.(strange but true)
Since they are reselling the XCd stuff, and according to some folks at XCd are 
assisting with R&D, I expect that the stuff that XCd sells for the reqular III's
will show up in the GoldKey catalog soon.

Also to the DECiee that was pushing the LPS20's and 40's, please compare the 
prices.  I can buy 2 or 3 HPIIISi's or QMS-PS1700's for the price of a LPS20. In
my environment and alot of others, distributing the printers makes alot more
sense. I may lose a few features but nothing I can't work around. 
(price source Summer 1992 DECdirect hardware catalog)

			al

Al Lilianstrom
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Batavia, Illinois
lilianstrom@fndcd.fnal.gov

My opinion.  Not the DOE's, URA's, or anyone else at Fermilab
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Subject: RE:  VMS mail to Macintosh / IBM PC. What's the best choice?
From: "Darwin L. Mecham W-7211 BD9A/752" <mecham@VANDAL.EBR.ANLW.ANL.GOV>
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:10:31 -0700 (MST)
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Steve,
        There were some great sessions on mail integration for the larger
        computer community at the last US Decus in Lost Wages(Las Vegas).
 
        I had a really good talk with one of the DEC people from Sandia
        Natl. Labs in Albuquerque ( or however that place is spelled -
        you'd think some who deals with ques all day would remember)
        ...anyhow - they have something implemented to allow Novell
        netware based CC:mail, VmsMail, Unix/Ultrix TCP SMTP and I think
        he said Microsoft's mail to all talk togeather nicely.
 
        We are going to start addressing this issue after holidays are over,
        please let me know what you come up with and I'll dig up my DECUS
        notes after I get back.
 
                                        Darwin L. Mecham
                                        Argonne National Labs - West
                                        Idaho Falls, Id.
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Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
From: Alan Cantrell <CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX.BITNET>
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:12:07 -0600
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> Look at the original message! The 250 is a terminal server, and priced as
> such. The market is for a HP compatible expansion card that can be a LAT
> device. I could set up a queue on the VAX, and plug my printer anywhere
 
There is such a device.  That is, an HP compatible expansion card that can run
LAT.  It is made by XCd Corp. and costs around $700.  You can reach XCd at
(714) 476-7855.
 
> --
> RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
> RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
> "How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
> "Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
>
 
Alan Cantrell                                   cantrell@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Network Manager                                 CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX
 
Vanderbilt University Computer Center
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Subject: Q+E access to VAX/VMS RMS files
From: "JEFFERY CHEW NSEP-CIM, TEL:604-837211 EX 268, FAX604-833894"<vccmep@GPO.NSC.COM>
Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:13:07 -0800
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I have talks of accessing excel's Q+E on RDB but is it possible to access
RMS files on VAX?
 
Your assistant in this matter is greatly appreciated.  Merry Christmas!
 
Rgds,
 
Jeffery
VCCMEP%EPMV50.DNET@GPO.NSC.COM
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From: garber@aru.dom.uab.edu (David W. Garber)
Subject: Re: kermit program
Organization: Univ of Ala. @ Birmingham
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:51:22 GMT

In article <9212240713.AA09016@gpo.nsc.com> "JEFFERY CHEW NSEP-CIM, 
TEL:604-837211 EX 268, FAX604-833894"<vccmep%epmv50.dnet@GPO.NSC.COM> writes:
>Subject: kermit program
> 
>The second problem is trying to upload MS-DOS exe files from VAX to MSDOS
>machine using kermit file transfer.  I try to set both kermits to binary
>but after the file has been transfered, it does not run.  Any solution to
>this?
> 
Please post replies or carbon them to me.  I have the same problem.  I've 
"solved" it by uu-encoding and decoding, and sending ascii files, but this 
obviously dramatically increases transmission file sizes, which I want to 
avoid.  Thanks.
David W. Garber (garber@aru.dom.uab.edu)
From: gaspard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Programming under Pathworks for DOS
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:59:42 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
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Programming under Pathworks for DOS ...

   1.	Is it possible to perform asynchronous network receives and transmits
	under Pathworks for DOS, over a task-to-task logical link?  
	In other words, can a program initiate a network receive or transmit
	operation, and continue processing before the operation has completed
	and the data received by this end or the other end of the logical link?

   2.	Is it possible to have concurrent receive and transmit operations in
	progress at the same time, over the one task-to-task logical link?

	For standard DOS I/O operations like disk file I/O, it is not possible
	to have two concurrent I/O operations because DOS itself is not
	reentrant.  But does this restriction apply to Pathworks?

The answer to both the above questions under VMS is "YES" -- but what about
under Pathworks for DOS?

We want to implement a full-duplex task-to-task logical link between a 
program running under Pathworks for DOS and a program running under VMS.
Each program effectively has three threads of execution: (a) a network
transmitting thread, (b) a network receiving thread, and (c) an internal
data processing thread.  Under VMS alone we can use the asynchronous $QIO 
system service (rather than the synchronous $QIOW) to perform the network
receives and transmits, and event flags to indicate completion.  If we used 
synchronous receive and transmit operations then the two programs could 
deadlock if (for example) both chose to transmit at the same time.
                                   
What features does Pathworks for DOS provide to implement the same
functionality?
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From: Huy_Le@mindlink.bc.ca (Huy Le)
Subject: Re: WP and Open File Caching
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:37:24 GMT

>Secondly, we began having trouble with WordPerfect in that any
>change to the Setup caused a product freeze up.  We could queue
>keystrokes, but couldn't cancel WP's hold on processing.  Always
>had to do a Ctrl Alt Del.

We had this problem when the WP setup files were placed on a network
drive. The problem went away when we moved the setup file to the local
drive instead. This was with WP configured as a network version.
Apparently, WP must be doing a lot of opening and closing of that file
when it is saving the setup. That is the only thing that I can think
of that would cause it to be so slow in coming back. It finish after
5-15 min.

Huy Le
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Subject: RE: Printer problems
From: Alan Cantrell <CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX.BITNET>
Date: 29 Dec 1992 20:12:59 -0600
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Might I suggest that the problem might be that you need to create
different LAT ports to correspond the same physical port on the DECSERVER.
That is, different queues should not point to the same logical port e.g.
LTA999:
 
 
>    We've talked with Digital's Support and they have said that the solution
>is managing the queues by the Dec Print Printer Services. They are trying to
>solve he problem without this product, but I think there is no solution because
>diferent processors must be sinchronized (not obvious).
VMS should be able to handle process synchronization nicely.
 
 
>   Abel Agelet
>   Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya (SPAIN)
>   ofabel@si.uc.es
 
Alan Cantrell
Vanderbilt University Computer Center
 
cantrell@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX
From: nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU (Nalley, Gary K.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: How to use a non-DEC postscript printer???
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:57:24 GMT
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> From: l_seibert@WRGLEX.BITNET
<Subject: How to use a non-DEC postscript printer???
<
<Hi,
<
<I have a problem to use a postscript printer as a postscript printer under VMS.
<The printer is a Brother HL-10PS, it is connected serial with the DECserver200
<and everything is working fine as long as I use it as a text printer, but as
<soon as I send a postscript file or I connect it to a queue created with DEC's
<CPS-software, it doesn't print anything. If it is connected to a text queue,
<the printer tells me IGNORE DATA. If it is connected to a CPS queue, it takes
<sometime and then the queue is stalled.
<
<
<Any help or idea, how to solve this problem is appreciated.
<
<Happy New Year
<
<Lars
<
<--
<Lars Seibert                          UUCP  : ...!drilex!wrglex!katec!l_seibert
<System Manager                        phone : +49 6181 9404-69
<TEC Systems KATEC/GRACE GmbH          fax   : +49 6181 46646

It's my understanding that you have to create a generic queue to use with
non-DEC (or unsupported) printers and not use the CPS software.  This is due to
all the "communication" that DEC printers have with VMS.  The CPS software will
only work with DEC, HP, Apple, etc. printers (I can't remember the whole
supported list off the top of my head).

We are using postscript IBM 4019s and 4029s on generic queues and sending the
appropiate control codes in FORMS to change the printer's data stream between
the PPDS, plotter, PCL and Postscript modes.

E-mail me if you need more information on what we are doing.


        +-------------------------------------------------------+
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From: mitton@dave.lkg.dec.com (Dave Mitton)
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
Reply-To: mitton@dave.lkg.dec.com (Dave Mitton)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:17:33 GMT


In article <92357.085301RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>, Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:53:01 EST
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers

..<stuff deleted>
>Look at the original message! The 250 is a terminal server, and priced as
>such. The market is for a HP compatible expansion card that can be a LAT
>device. I could set up a queue on the VAX, and plug my printer anywhere
>on the network, and it would work without any need for external power
>supplies, or printer cables, or 1000 block files at 9600 baud! You can
>already do it with TCP/IP, and Novell workstations are doing it with IPX.
>But DEC, who've been using distributed printing for years, getting the
>data to the terminal server at ethernet speeds, are still pushing the
>data through a 9600 baud bottleneck to the printer.

Excuse me, but only serial port and 3rd party products need be connected
by terminal servers.

The Digital products for network printing are the PrintServer series 
(LPS40,LPS20) of printers.  Both directly connect to the Ethernet and use 
DECnet and TCP/IP protocols.  The LPS40 has been around for years.

I remember seeing an item somewhere that some third party has developed
a plug in for an HP network printer that understands Digital protocols,
but I cannot find the name or details.

	Dave Mitton
	Networks and Communications

>Aengus
>--
>RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
>RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
>"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
>"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 09:08:30 EST
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers

The December 21st issue of LAN Times (a predominantly Netware trade mag)
reviewed 8 Network Print Servers. Only one of them listed LAT as a supported
Protocol, that was the ESP1 Multiprotocol Print Server, from LANTRONIX.

The unit is an external box, with serial and parallel ports. I'm still not
entirely sure whether Parallel ports (usually being one-way) are totally
unusable with Print Symbionts that do page counting, and error reporting,
but if that is the case, then you're still limited to using the serial port
for getting the data into the printer.

The listed price for the LANTRONIX unit is $695. The contact information for
LANTRONIX is:
26072 Merit Circle, Suite 113
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
(800) 422-7022 / (714) 367-0050 / Fax (714) 367-0287

I'm still interested in looking at the HP adapter card, that would let me
have 2 way communication, at greater than serial speeds.

Aengus

(and many thanks to the person who started the thread, and posted a summary.
I've been interested in looking at this for a while, but I haven't had time
to investigate it fully. Now I don't have to re-invent the wheel!)

--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
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Subject: RE: Tektronics emulation and multiple login session on PATHWORKS?
From: backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::backstrom)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:00:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

>                      jcao@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Jingbin Cao)
>         Tektronics emulation and multiple login session on pathworks?
>
>Since our computer center chose to use pathworks, I have missed the
>two features on the subject line dearly. And everybody here seems to
>hate it. NCSA Telnet appears to be a much superior product. In any
>case, is it possible to do tektronics emulation and multiple login
>session on pathworks? Thanks in advance for any tips.

    Care to elaborate on the "hate thing"? ;-) We appreciate any and all
    input that can help us improve our products.
    
    The PATHWORKS terminal emulators don't do Tektronics emulation, only
    basic VT320-style emulation.
    
    Most (if not all) commercially available terminal emulators that have
    Tektronics support do support all the PATHWORKS transports.
    
    Though, I'm not sure of the Tektronics capabilities of the DECwindows/
    Motif terminal emulator (DECterm), you might be able to use it with
    PC DECwindows Motif, or eXcursion for Windows, as an alternative.
    
    I don't know what, exactly, you mean by "multiple login sessions"
    on PATHWORKS. If you refer to terminal emulation sessions, then
    the SETHOST emulator is limited to four concurrent sessions (over
    LAT, DECnet/CTERM or TELNET), and the VT320 emulator (for Windows)
    is limited by the number of LAT Session Control Blocks, SCB's,
    defined in LATCP over LAT, NCP EXEC MAX LINKS for DECnet/CTERM
    and the TCP/IP limit comes from PROTOCOL.INI parameters like NSESSION,
    NUMSOCKETS).

    SETHOST under Windows is safe only if you launch it once, set the
    environment variable NVTWIN to '1' and (for LAT) use "LATCP DEFINE
    SCB n" to define the number of fixed T.E. session control blocks.
    For multiple sessions, use the built-in session support instead of
    attempting to launch multiple copies of the applications under
    Windows. You can launch as many copies of VT320 under Windows as
    your memory/network configuration permits.
    
    If you mean something else than multiple login sessions, please,
    clarify.
    
    ...petri (petri.backstrom@ljo.mts.dec.com)
       Personal Computing Integration Engineering
       Digital Equipment Corporation
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Subject: Locating KATRON NDIS drivers
From: "Jim Anderson, Winnipeg Research Station" <JANDERSON@MBRSWI.AGR.CA>
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:20:23 -0500
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Can anyone tell me where I could get NDIS drivers for an NE2000 lookalike
made by KATRON, model ET200-T. It does not have any address, or phone
numbers in the manual, the floppy disk with it only has Novell type stuff
and since I "inherited" this , I have no idea who the original supplier
was. I would like to use it in a PathWorks environment.

I only have mail access (no FTP) and have been sending requests to
ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com trying to get files like "Need-to-find-packet-ndis..."
turned up by an "Archie" search. The only responses I seem to get are that
the DEC machine has queued the job, but after a few days nothing shows up.

Is there a site (mailserver preferred) that has public domain NE2000 NDIS
drivers? Has anyone used the ET200-T in a pathworks setup?

Seasons greetings all,
Jim Anderson
janderson@mbrswi.agr.ca
From: sph0301@utsph.sph.uth.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: RE: Want to get 437usa directory out of the path
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:55:10 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas School of Public Health

In article <0096536B.82FB1EE0.9402@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU> chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam) writes:
>>When our PC's boot, STARTNET.BAT adds three directories to the path
>>for Pathworks - %_SYSD%\decnet, %_SYSD%\pcapp, and %_SYSD%\437usa. We
>>don't have a sufficiently long path to accomodate everything, and I
>>so I would like to eliminate at least the \437usa directory from the
>>path.
>>Does anyone know what file(s) from \437usa are being used so I can
>>move them to another directory in the path?
> 
>I really hate DOS because of this restriction. However, there is a nice
>solution. If you have access to COMPUSERVE or DECUServe, there is a public
>domain or shareware program called PATHMAN that will extend the length of the
>PATH beyond the 127 character limit. It works really well.


Or try 4DOS, IMHO one the the best shareware programs around... not 
only extends the command line to 256 characters but provides lot of 
other enhancements to command.com as well - and it works fine with 
Pathworks.

As far as the /437usa directory goes - I've never had it in my path and
everything works.

kate wilson
ut school of public health, houston
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Subject: RE: Q+E access to VAX/VMS Rdb?
From: "Umberto Tachinardi, MD" <TACHINARDI@INCOR.HC.USP.ANSP.BR>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:39:00 BSC
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Comments: @FPSP.FAPESP.BR - @FPSP.HEPNET - @BRFAPESP.BITNET - .BR gateway

Things to check:
- correct node and username address when logging on,
  also the path for the schema: "declare schema filename
  node (or disk):file
- SQLSRV$SERVER is running AND number of proccess are
  enough for the session
- Rdb privileges are enabled for the PATHWORKS node
- try the DOS Rdb-API examples that come with Rdb,
  they should work if net is properly installed
I have this configuration working properly for almost
6 months now...
Good Luck,
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Subject: WP and Open File Caching
From: Jim Becker <BECKERJA%WPO1P%WPO2V@SNYCENVA.BITNET>
Date: 30 Dec 1992 12:17:00 -0500 (EST)
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Because of the severe problems we've experienced with Open File
Caching turned on, we've had to disable it.

Firstly, our log files were being overrun by error messages for
"client open file caching."

Secondly, we began having trouble with WordPerfect in that any
change to the Setup caused a product freeze up.  We could queue
keystrokes, but couldn't cancel WP's hold on processing.  Always
had to do a Ctrl Alt Del.

Does anyone know why this happens and if you've solved these
problems before?

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Subject: RE: White paper on Windows for Workgroups & Pathworks
From: DAN@WINROCK.ORG
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:28:00 -0600
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I would like a copy also.
 
 
DAN@WINROCK.ORG