HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aj923@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (P. J. Remner)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Regarding rec.arts.tv.tiny-toon
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:29:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj923@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (P. J. Remner)
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In a previous article, forbes@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Scott Forbes) says:

>
>Somebody (probably "Dr. Roger Rabbit" at the Univ. of Michigan)
>forged a newgroup control message for this group.  Some sites
>automatically respond to a newgroup message by creating the group;
>if so, anyone who 'knows the system' can create a newsgroup on
>your machine.
>

In his defense, he wouldn't do that.  In his offense, however, he
probably WOULD create "alt.sex.buster-and-babs.lime-jello" or some other
crap like that.  But anyway, if there is a problem with forged groups,
why can't there be a "central government" for Usenet?  Naaah.

>
>Of course, part of the reason 'the system' *works* is that the
>hundreds of people who know how to forge control messages don't.
>

And, part of the reason the system doesn't work is that some of the
people that know how to forge the control messages slip that info
out to less scrupulous individuals.



Final line:  Don't post to rec.arts.tv.tiny-toon or
  alt.sex.buster-and-babs.lime-jello.

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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (TTA through March, no more new episodes, and the fate of episode #182 -- solved!)
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:14:17
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In-reply-to: rjung@aludra.usc.edu's message of 22 Jan 1993 18:59:42 -0800


rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:

RJ> As far as anyone can tell, kids, episode #182 will _never_ air. It was
RJ> written, storyboarded, animated, and put together -- then rejected by Fox
RJ> Television's Business Standards & Practices (a.k.a. the censors) as being
RJ> "unacceptable".

RJ> And for the record, episode #182 was entitled ... TOONS FROM THE CRYPT.


AAAAAAIIIIIGGGGGGHHH!!  (Synth screams violently into his screen for several
minutes)

They do *exactly* what I wished for -- an episode where Kassir does both
Buster and the Cryptkeeper -- and what does Fox, the Hip network, do?!

I need a Nuprin *REALLY BAD* ...


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: pearse@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Eric E. Pearson)
Subject: Re: Tiny Toons dead meat?
Reply-To: pearse@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:37:19 GMT

	I don't know what exactly the current state of Tiny Toons is, but I 
know that we can keep the spirit alive!  We can continue to write letters to 
Warner!  We can also keep writing our own scripts, like those three 8th graders!
We can keep the home anvils dropping!  If you doubt me, listen to this:
	There was once a time when the comic strip POGO(drawn by the late Walt
Kelly) was VERY popular.  College students even ran "Pogo for President" 
campaigns.  The strip ended its first run of syndication after Walt's death,
but people were STILL interested.  Due to the efforts of these people, POGO
had had a revival of sorts.  A new creative team now draws the strip, and
Eclipse books intend to reprint all the old strips!
	Even if you don't like POGO, What I'm saying is: We CAN keep it going!
So don't give up, people!

	Eric Pearson
	pearse@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,rec.arts.animation
From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (TTA through March, no more new episodes, and the fate of episode #182 -- solved!)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:14:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.072502.23742@ncsu.edu> jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II) writes:
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone at WB should say "Let's release it on video!"
>since it's "unairable".  They ought to make *some* profit off of it.
>I'd kill for a copy of 'Toons from the Crypt'.... :-)
>(Why does that statement seem, oh, so appropriate? :-) :-) :-)

	I suspect TTA will still be popular enough to go into
second-run syndication even after Fox is done with it.  Hopefully
then, we'll see TOONS FROM THE CRYPT, the non-butchered Bicycle
Bob, etc.  While we're at it, we could hope for the snoring-but-
invisible-toons-in-the-hallway to reappear in "C Sharp or B Flat"

	On the other hand, WB could go the other way and do more
butchering when TTA goes second-run... say, to carve out space for
more commercials.  I rue the day that TTA has a "Hip Clip" segment.

	Networks are obsolete.  Laugh heartily as they die slowly...

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From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Tiny Toons Upcoming Episodes [in calendar(1) format]
Date: 28 Jan 1993 13:36:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Uh, is there an episode list someplace?
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From: jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: 13 Something
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:05:15 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

RE: The Big Color/Activity Book - yeah, I have that...I listed it in the
    merchandise 'update' list.  BTW, I will be putting together everything
    that Marc started with the list, plus everything everyone else has found,
    and will be reposting that list soon.

RE: Will's trivia quiz: PLEASE *DO* repost it!  I must have missed it the
    first time!

- John

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,rec.arts.animation
From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (TTA through March, no more new episodes, and the fate of episode #182 -- solved!)
Organization: ACME Looniversity
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:38:56 GMT

In article <1jqcauINNn1v@aludra.usc.edu> rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>
>As far as anyone can tell, kids, episode #182 will _never_ air. It was
>written, storyboarded, animated, and put together -- then rejected by Fox
>Television's Business Standards & Practices (a.k.a. the censors) as being
>"unacceptable".
>
	This should remind us all of just how lucky we were
to get the first two seasons without a network (and how lucky
we are that the new Star Treks are first-run syndicated too).

	Still, it's hard to imagine that the Al Bundy Network
even *HAS* a BS&P department!  ;-)

	Oh well.  Watch more cable, rent more videos -- we'll
be rid of these hateful networks in 10-15 years easy.

>The only fragment of episode #182 that has ever seen the light of day was the
>short called "Wait 'til Your Father Gets Home", which appeared as one act in

	Correction:  "Wait 'til your Father gets Even".
                                                 ^^^^

>the now-gone THE PLUCKY DUCK SHOW. Since there are no plans to air the
>"parent" episode, this short will probably not be seen again, and is an
>_extremely_ rare commodity.
>
>And for the record, episode #182 was entitled ... TOONS FROM THE CRYPT.
>
	Oh joy.  Now we have our "Shada".

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II)
Subject: Re: purchasing TTA shows
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:13:25 GMT

On an unrelated note - someone mentioned looking for 'Twin Peaks'...

I saw some Twin Peaks episodes at a local video store here.  It wasn't
even a Blockbuster.  (I forget the name of the store.)

- John
(Who was a TP fan.)

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From: rjung@sal-sun43.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: TTA-collectors: help!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:29:22 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
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In article <1k131mINN5pq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
>Ok, anyone who's been and is collecting TTA on tape please e-mail me for
>. . . shall we say . . . a tran$action of some sort?  Thanks.

  Wouldn't it be easier to look at the weekly TTAUEC bulletins, find out when
the episodes you want will air, then tape them yourself? You get total control
over quality, selection, and all that good stuff. That's what we're here for,
after all.  B-)

  (With 100-so TTA episodes, the entire package gets repeated in 20 weeks or
so. Call it a semester-long hobby...  B-)

						--R.J.
						B-)

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Not Just News
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:30:37 GMT

Anyone catch last Saturday's "Not Just News" on Fox?  Maybe it was a rerun,
and was already mentioned here in the past, but just in case...

They did a brief look at where animation is heading.  Lots of "Aladdin"
clips, and lots of clips from TTA and BTAS.  They mentioned the fact that
animation is not just for kids.  They also talked quite a bit about the
fact that kids *do* know the difference between crappy animated shows, and
good stuff.

But the real treat was a brief interview with Jean MacCurdy (spelled
"MacCurdey" on the show).  In fact I think it was she who said that kids
know the difference between crap and quality.  Wish I could remember more,
but ... hey, it was only "Not Just News."  Who watches it seriously?  :-)
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From: hampton@ais.org (Kevin Podsiadlik)
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (TTA through March, no more new episodes, and the fate of episode #182 -- solved!)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:25:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.072502.23742@ncsu.edu> jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II) writes:
>Aieeeeeeeeeeee!  Of *COURSE*, the *ONLY* episode of PDS I ever taped was
>the original RETURN OF BATDUCK episode, because I figured 'heck, all the
>PDS shows are mixed up TTA shows...I'll tape 'em when they're on TTA'.

Funny you you mention that episode; I wonder if we'll ever see *that*
one again, either.

Or the uncut verion of The Looney Beginning...

Or any of those things Chris mentioned...

Or the real credits to The Horror of Slumber Party Montain (okay, maybe
there's hope for that one.)

Chris Adamson later adds:
>        Networks are obsolete.  Laugh heartily as they die slowly...

Out of context I know, but this strikes me as an odd thing to say on
the InterNET.

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From: drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Return of the Acme Acres Zone: how bout a gif?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:07:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

I think the scene with Duck Dodgers posing heroically on the field of 
battle, with Plucky holding his cape, is just *screaming* to be
digitized and made into a gif.  (AAAAAAAAAAA!!!)

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Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:39:03 -0500 
From: Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Muppets on video!

   I heard about this deal over Christmas break...Do you know where you
can get the videos/watch?  Is it at any store, do you have to send away
for it or what?  Any info you or anyone else has would be MUCH
appreciated!
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From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: Re: Scooter
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:27:05 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rebecca Alice Metz) writes:

> 
>    Yes, Scooter was in MCC, for a few seconds.  He worked at Fozziwig's
> rubber chicken factory, and was at the Chritsmas party there.  It
> would've been nice to see more of him.  But I love the movie, no matter
> what!
>     As far as the joke, can you be a little more specific?  I don't
> remember what you're talking about yet.  I saw it enough that I mihgt if
> you give me more of a hint.
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Someone had already informed me that the name Mikelwite (sp) that was on 
a sign above a store is an in-joke because that's Caine's real last name.
Now.... who say the sign that said Statler and Waldorf?

Dasocser

"Me like Hamlet because he is prince of Denmark. That make him Danish.
Me love danish." --- Alistair Cookie, Monsterpiece Theatre
From: daniel_macks@brown.edu (Daniel Macks)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: What's his name?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:33:25 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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Just a simple question...
What's the name of the clown on the Muppet Show (throws fish, blows things up,
etc.)?

daniel_macks@brown.edu
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From: v143pfey@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MAN OF BOHEMIA)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Subject: this tuesday
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Guess what???? As of this tuesday, 1/26/93, the old muppet albums
will be rereleased!!!!!!    Yeah!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: re: Elmo etc.
Reply-To: st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:10:32 GMT

Hey Guys!
Not only do I fondly remember the pinball number song, but last year, in my 
Senior Year of high school, my friend Nicole & I sang it every day in Calc. 
class. Scary thing is, I was Valedictorian and she was saluditarian! Only
goes to show what Sessie can do for young minds!
Now, everybody sing along:
One two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve....
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
ELEVEN!
Doo-Doo! Doo-Doo!
Many Muppet Returns,
Love y'all,
Erika Lindsay
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Jessica Raine)
Subject: Re: The new Sesame Street theme
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:49:14 GMT

	Thank you, Simon, for bringing up a question I had had in mind for a
while. Who does the voice of Ernie on the new Sesame Street? I remember
reading (in my personal reference book, "Of Muppets and Men", by Christopher
Finch-- a must-read for all Muppephiles) that Richard Hunt, who does the
voice of Scooter, Beaker, Janice, etc., does a Kermit voice that's almost
indistinguishable from the master himself. Has he (Hunt) been promoted to
the voice of Ernie? Enquiring minds wanna know.
					--Jess
Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:17:59 -0500 
From: Reuven William Goren <rg3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SS Theme Song

Understood.  I've heard both.  The one I'm refering to is a new
Techo-indurtial dance song.  Trust me, it is NOT the new song for the
show.  I'll get the title and artist (loosely used word), and you can
listen for yourself.

Reuven

Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: lmbabik@rocdec.roc.wayne.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik)
Subject: Muppet Christmas Carol
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:36:21 GMT


I just saw the Muppet Christmas Carol again this weekend with a friend
of mine.  I had already seen it once, so I was able to pay a bit more
attention to small details . . . 

What I'd like to know is did anyone else see the muppeteer in the final
scene when all the muppets are gathered around the dinner table?  She's
a blonde, and I could see her pony tail and head!

Eeeek!  The fantasy comes crashing to the ground!

Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:51:01 -0500 
From: Rebecca Alice Metz <rm6p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Scooter

   Yes, Scooter was in MCC, for a few seconds.  He worked at Fozziwig's
rubber chicken factory, and was at the Chritsmas party there.  It
would've been nice to see more of him.  But I love the movie, no matter
what!
    As far as the joke, can you be a little more specific?  I don't
remember what you're talking about yet.  I saw it enough that I mihgt if
you give me more of a hint.
         (*)--(*)
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       \  \ \/ /  /
     ___\  \__/  /___         
     \_  \______/  _/           "De flim is okee dokey."- The Swedish Chef
       \__      __/
          \____/                "Jack not name...Jack JOB!!!"- Sweetums
Newsgroups: alt.tv.muppets
From: wsherman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (William Sherman)
Subject: Re: The Muppet Show
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:08:35 GMT

samantha@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Samantha Rauhecker) writes:
> st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Jessica Raine) writes:
> > 
> > 	Sadly, there is not. The rights are now owned by Disney (money-grubbing
> > sonsabitches), 
> I was recently talking to my boyfriend (who is the true muppet fanatic in our
> relationship) the other night. (He's so fanatical, he name his DECstation 
> "Fozzy" and his Amiga "Gonzo") 
>
> Anyway, he said that Disney had tried to buy Jim Henson's muppets, etc., 
> (He said that he thinks this was while Jim was still alive, and I agree.)
> and Jim Henson replied with something like "the muppets are for the children.
> I will never sell them." And so, I didn't think that Disney would ever have 
> them. 
> Is this really true??

There seems to be a little confusion here, so let me try to clarify a little -
not that I am totally in the light, but I have a couple pieces of information.

First, Henson and Disney were negotiating before Henson's death, in fact,
before he died I was under the impression that the deal was done and signed,
but Brian Henson sued Disney after his father's death, and a deal was
eventually struck. Before his death, Henson was already shooting stuff on the
Disney lots in Orlando, so that must have been pretty close to a deal anyway.

Regarding the comment of Henson saying he would never sell the muppets, that
may be refering to the fact the Henson absolutely would not let Disney have
the rights to the Sesame Street Muppets.  He considered this a deal breaker.
The primary reason for this being that sales of SS Muppet paraphernalia was
a primary source of income for the CTW, and Henson didn't want to chance
Disney screwing this up.

This is all from memory.  I have an Animation Magazine article done shortly
before Henson's death that had an interview of him while shooting on the
Disney lot, so a lot of what I know comes from there.

	Bill

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