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From: GS0383%SPRINGB.bitnet@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (Melanie Willis)
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Can someone tell me how you reply personally and not to the entire group?

Melanie

Statistics & Research Consulting
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From:         IAN YORK <YORK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      John D. MacDonald (John MacDonald, meet Ursala LeGuin)

        By one of the coincidences that seem to hit this list so often, last
week I reread all of the John D MacDonald Travis McGee books (or anyway, all
ones I have: about 12 or 15, I think.) (Lots of us speedreaders out here.)
        MacDonald is in the category I call mental popcorn - for the same
reason, I presume, that Valentine called him a vice.  He certainly isn't one
of the junk writers out there (make your own list) but he is also very defin-
itely a popular writer, wiht all that implies.  There are no profound in-
sights, there is no difficulty in the reading, the writing is craftsmanlike
rather than brilliant.  Of course, that's exactly why I was reading him; this
month I don't have any mental energy to spare for proper appreciation of -
say - Dostoevsky.
        If anyone is tempted, the McGee stories are definitely not best read
a wad like that.  Last night reading _Darker Than Amber_ and _The Lonely Sil-
ver Rain_ I was really getting irritated with Travis's preudoprofound in-
sights and redneck liberal philosophy.  One at a time, though, I hadn't
minded nearly as much.
        In the same category as MacDonald, but a notch or two higher, are Tony
Hillerman's detective stories set on the Navajo Reserve.  I have no idea how
authentic the Navajo characters, attitude, and philosophy in the books is,
but it sure sounds good; and it's more thought-provoking than McGee.  Anyone
else read Hillerman?  Can anyone tell me how authentic they are?
        Ian
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Subject:      AS Byatt

>I put down *Possession* well unfinished because it seemed rather mechanical
>and lifeless to me.  Even so, I am considering giving it another try. -mm

mm: plase do give _Possession_ another try.  I also felt that it was somewhat
mechanical - too neat and tidy.  For the first half of the book I probably
would have called it lifeless as well, although I still found it interesting;
by the second half (perhaps because I was becoming accustomed to the style)
I didn't find that any more.  The more I think about it, I think the "mech-
anical" aspects were deliberate.
        We are willing to accept surreal plots despite their implausibility;
witness Angela Carter.  So, if we're going to be reasonable, we shouldn't
object to a plot that's implausible because of being too mechanical.  It's
just focussing on another aspect of reality.

        I just saw a review of Angela Carter's posthumous essay collection.
Has anyone read it?  I haven't read any of her essays; are they anything like
her fiction works?
        -Ian
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Subject:      Re: Can you Camus?

>The now-controversial Woody Allen says to this point, somewhere: "It is not
>enough to succeed. One's friends must also fail."

Sounds like a corollary (what mathematicians die of) of Twain's,
"Let us be thankful for the fools, but for whom the rest of us
could not succeed."

-Mka
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Subject:      Re: hello?

Tim, have your read *Long Day's Journey into Night*?  I think that in this
work O'Neill does acheive a tragedy of high order, at least watching the
film version with Katherine Hepburn convinced me of this.

mm
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>_Pickwick Papers_ would have to be my favorite because it was
>the least maudlin of any Dickens I have read.  I like the

Sounds like you might know about Shaw's comment that it is the
truly cruel person who cannot laugh at the demise of Little Nell.

-Mka
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Subject:      Congratulations!
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	Chris, I can't imagine what these last days might have been lake,
(like), but let me rejoice for a moment thinking of how you must feel now!

Probably exhausted, among other things. Hope your wife recuperates quickly,
and please return to speak of this later, so we'll know everything is
going fine. Again, BIG AND VERY REAL CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
Michal.
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From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Vonnegut

Hear, hear, Mr. York. I think Vonnegut's a charlatan.
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From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:43:00 GMT

In article <199208202053.AA04715@cs.rpi.edu> John Chang <changj@CS.RPI.EDU> writes:
>Since there is a call for a new topic of discussion, let met start one.
>
>I'm wondering what people think of Milan Kundera's _Unbearable Lightness
>of Being_.  I thought it was somewhat philosophical and interesting, but
>that it was a little "light" (not taken from the title) - that is, he
>would introduce a philosophical issue, then just leave it without really
>going into details.  I don't necessary think this is a fault, especially
>since in most instances these issues are presented as opinions of
>characters, they could simply be all that the characters thought.  What
>I'm wondering is whether there is, and what the intent is.  Does it somehow
>tie in with the structure of the book?  The sturcture, each chapter
>presenting a different perspective of the same story, what is the purpose
>there?

I think that you will find that the themes of lightness and weight can be found
in the characters themselves.  It has been awhile but Tomas is caught between 
light( sex is light, there are noe commitments) and love  (heavy because it 
weighs you down and makes you do things that you wouldn't normally do), it is 
burden. 
His wife represents weight, the weight of love.
When she had her affair she wanted her lovers weight on her becasue she wanted
love that she wasn't getting from Tomas.
Tomas' mistress represents the lightness of sex, of mobility.  She has no
attachments and moves farther and farther west (the west represents light as 
well, just think of Disney land as being as far west as you can go:))  
Tomas is caught between them but the weight of love draws him back to 
Czechoslovakia to Teresa(?).  
This is all pretty light itself but if you explore it on your own I think that 
you will find that it has many possibilities.  I wish that I could get into it 
a bit more but it has been several years since I read this book.  Let me know 
what you think.

Greg




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Subject:      set lit mail

set LITERARY mail
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From:         "Lana Brown, VIARC, IRD" <VIAEM105@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: hello?

From:    Lana Brown, VIARC, IRD

A mentor once told me that anything that can be *speed-read* is not worth
reading. Anyone wish to comment on this statement in relation to the books in
the  *last week* list?
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Since there is a call for a new topic of discussion, let met start one.

I'm wondering what people think of Milan Kundera's _Unbearable Lightness
of Being_.  I thought it was somewhat philosophical and interesting, but
that it was a little "light" (not taken from the title) - that is, he
would introduce a philosophical issue, then just leave it without really
going into details.  I don't necessary think this is a fault, especially
since in most instances these issues are presented as opinions of
characters, they could simply be all that the characters thought.  What
I'm wondering is whether there is, and what the intent is.  Does it somehow
tie in with the structure of the book?  The sturcture, each chapter
presenting a different perspective of the same story, what is the purpose
there?

Also, and this may be related to the questions above, on the cover of the
book, among numerous other quotes of praises from reviews, is the following:
"a work of high modernist playfulness and deep pathos."  Not that I read
too much into these promotional phrases, but I was wondering what exactly
is modernist about this book.  I guess what I really want to know is what
is modernist of modernism? what are some of its traits in literature?  From
reading criticisms, I've picked up something about spatialization of
literature.  Would someone like to give us a lecture on this topic?
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The Story is "Leiningen versus the Ants" and is by Carl Stephenson.
You'll find a copy in BEDSIDE ESQUIRE (New York:  McBride Company,
1940), to name but one place.
Enjoy.

Richard Bleiler
RBleiler@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
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From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: hello?
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              Aug 20, 92 2:58 pm

>
> >> Last week I read
> >>
> >>   Byatt, _Possession_
> >>   Kundera, _Book of Laughter and Forgetting_
> >>   Camus, _The Fall_
> >>   Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_
> >>   Gabriel Garcia Marquez, _Love in the Time of Cholera_
> >
> >You read all of this LAST WEEK  ????
> >                                            --Tom
>
> That was my reaction too, Doc.
>
> -Mka
> Entre-who?

What do you do in a really *busy* week?

AK
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From:         the First and Only Nude Vaxer <FSCLL@ALASKA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: writers

oops.. I just saw Naomi and she is right.
STUDGUPPY is the sci-fi list. All my comments on volume etc
stand, but writers is more open to everything.
But poetry does not gather much response at all...
chris
poet and pauper

P.S.  At times the M&I on the writers group is a fine piece of work.
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From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Subject: Vonnegut yet again
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:27:51 GMT

I certainlyh wouldn't try to make you like him or any one else.  I do
not see success in such limited terms.  The discourse itself is what interests
me.  Wheteher you like an outhor or not is the thing which matters least really.
the question of an authors viablity in academic circles is another.  It is 
quite possible to seriously consider authors that you hate with every fiber of your being.  The criticism you raise about Vonnegut is all legitimate foodder
for criticism.  I would agree that perhaps a ltittle too often, Vonnegut relies
on passive characters, but the passive character is itself a perfectly 
rteaonable device.  Mersulalt(MERSAULT) IN THE sTRANGER would make no sense as a character we could care about, one that takes acvtion. the passive character is oftent the best means of examining life from an existentialist framework or in an examination of places with a
character of their own as Vonnegut does occassionally in such works as Deadeye Dick or "Where I Live"  If contempt dfor humanity is anything, it is a point in favor of Vonnegut, if history is any proof.  There is almost no great writer in aexistence who hasn't or can't be accused of misanthropic writings.  That is
certainly no cause for dismissing a writer.  As for humor or sense of humor, IU think that Vonnegut s is best known for his humor.  Whether or not he succeeds is a question for serious consideration but as for the matter of his being
worthy or not , he already is taught in classrooms at the college level.  We probbly won't know for sure until he is dead, for some strange reason, this is a major qualification for serious consideration in the academic world.  The way that Vonnegut smokes he probably hasn't got more than a few years.
Greg Jerett
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From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Subject: Re:      Re: hello?
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:17:19 GMT

In article <LITERARY%92082014455366@UCF1VM.BITNET> Tim Johnson <PH408014@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>Last week I read
>
>  Byatt, _Possession_
>  Kundera, _Book of Laughter and Forgetting_
>  Camus, _The Fall_
>  Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_
>  Gabriel Garcia Marquez, _Love in the Time of Cholera_
>
Last Week? Granted you could knock off Thurber in twenty minutes, but what 
about the rest of this list?
I read My Life and Hard Times two years ago, it is a seriously funny book, 
kind of a combo of John Irving, Vonnegut, and Lardner.  Lots of short, 
illustrated stories about small town life.  I read it in a class on American 
Literature betweem WWI and WWII, what a period, what a class! Faulkner, 
Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Thurber, Lardner, Parker, St. Vincent-Millay, Frost, and
O'Neil. 

I will start a new thread here and now by stating, dogmatically and
categorically, that this is without a doubt the greatest period in American 
fiction and probably one of the greatest in the history of literature itself.
Of course, I never cared much for some of these European hacks.  Give me the
Golden Age of America over the British Renaissance any day! 

Greg Jerrett
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In article <LITERARY%92081409102745@UCF1VM.BITNET>, alamir <ALAMIR@BRFUEL.BITNET> writes:
> Have found the following in subject above:
> 
> After kyng Aruirag, of wam we habbeth y told
> Marius ys sone was kyng, quoynte mon & bold.
> And ys sone was aftur Hym, Coil was ys name,
> Bothe it were quoynte men, & of noble fame.
> 
> Can anybody translate "quoynte" into more modern english?
> Tks.
> 
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If I'm not mistaken, this word is an old form of the word "quaint" and,
according to the Oxford English Dictionary, means wise, knowing, or clever, in
the positive sense, or cunning or crafty in the negative sense. 
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Subject:      Re: reading

I'venever taken aspeed reading course, but I understand that the principles
(of the reputable ones) are what I've always done anyway.  (I read much faster
than anyone I've compared to, but I suspect that I'm at the same level as the
other speed readers out there.)  I'm not entirely sure of the mechanics (trying'
to analyze them ruins it) but as nearly as I can tell I read each word as a unit
   (rather than asletters) and do a lot of higher order grouping as well: common
phrases are treated as a single unit, lines are treated as another kind of
unit (because I usually don't read left to right but rather down the middle
of the line).  I suspect I also pick up the next line in peripheral vision
and start getting the sense of two lines simultaneously; I say this because
every so often I halt in surprise because something doesn't make sense, and it
turns out that I've read two lines at once.  As with the others out there, the
nature of the book changes the speed; plot driven books go fastest; poetry goes
slowest, because I mentally verbalize it so I don't miss the sounds - otherwise
I don't get nearly as much out of poetry.  As far as I can tell, I don't miss
much if anything by reading in this way.  I find it interesting, though, that
proper names - if I'm not familiar with them - only impinge on one part of my
brain.  I usually can't *say* the name, although I know who the character is
etc; instead I see the name as the written shape.  Presumably the pattern-
recognizing part of my brain isn't sharing information with the speech centres.
        Does that answer your question?  Is this similar to other peoples'
processes?
        Ian
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Lyn, couldn't get your address to work. Riposte.
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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     13-Aug-1992 12:31pm CDT
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Subject: SECOND REQUEST--FIRST MAY BE LOST

Does anyone remember the author of the short story, 'Leningen(?) and the
Ants' or 'Leningen's Ants' upon which the movie 'Naked Jungle' was based?
I can't find it anywhere.  Also, if it has been anthologized, I would
appreciate bib info.  Thanks.

Carole Leisure
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From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Science Fiction
              13 Aug 1992 16:54:24 EDT from
              <FRENKEL@CPMAIL-AM.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>

Actually, while we're on these gentlemen, I'd like to add that Theodore Sturgeo
n's short stories I find particularly fine, though still not as good as LeGuin'
s work in this genre. My caveat about Silverberg is that he seems to alternate
poignant, thoughtful stuff (*Nightwings*,*Dying Inside*,*Book of Skulls*) with
bottom-drawer space westerns; the Majipoor books are extremely spotty, and (to
me) show traces of hasty writing. Just a thought..
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Have found the following in subject above:

After kyng Aruirag, of wam we habbeth y told
Marius ys sone was kyng, quoynte mon & bold.
And ys sone was aftur Hym, Coil was ys name,
Bothe it were quoynte men, & of noble fame.

Can anybody translate "quoynte" into more modern english?
Tks.

ALAMIR AQUINO CORREA
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From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
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              Nude Vaxer" at Aug 21, 92 2:22 pm

>
> chris
> poet and pauper
writes:


> Well, I became the father of an 8lb 14oz baby boy this morning
> after watching my wife go through labor for over four days!
> The name is Galen Thomas Lott, and I apologize to anyone that bore
> the brunt of my stressed personality via e-mail or list over the
> last few days. This has been the hardest thing I have ever gone through--
-------------
What You have ever gone through? You? YOU!!!!!???

What about your poor *WIFE* -gads, she is a real heroine to have lived
through it! The poor woman.

You, inddedd.

Grumble grumble grumble

Congratulations to your wife for living through it - AND YOU TOO, I GUESS.

And baby, too.

You indeed.
Harrumph.
:))

>

Agnes
Who is just grumpy on principle - and because she has been looking at
a *^#@#!^%$" screen nonstop for 1000000000 days, it seems....
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From:         IAN YORK <YORK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SECOND REQUEST--FIRST MAY BE LOST

I remember the story; I think it was Lenington ... and it has definitely been
anthologized; but I'm damned if I remember who wrote it.  The version I read
was in an ancient school text, undoubtedly out of print - this was probably 20
years ago that I read it, and the book was in a collection of old books we
picked up at an auction for about $5.95.  So sorry, I can't help much.
Ian
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