From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: What I think
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:38:34 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov19.105412.6902@cheshire.oxy.edu>, dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes:
> Here's what I beleive.
> 
> The christians say that all those who are good and do not sin go
> to heaven, all those who are bad and sin go to hell. I do not think
> this is so. 

I disagree with you.  1 Corinthians 6:9,10 "Do you not know that wrongdoers
will not inherit the kingdom of God?  Do not be deceived!  Fornicators,
idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy,
drunkards, revilers, robbers - none of these will inherit the kingdom of God."

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death..."

>I believe in a God of complete forgiveness; 

Romans 6:23 (part two) "...but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord"

>I think
> God takes everyone up into heaven who wants to go. 

Where is that written in the Bible, which is God's Word to His Church?


>I don't believe
> heaven is a reward for the true believers. I don't think God is into
> rewarding. I think his ultimate goal is to turn all of humanity
> into nice, loving people.

The goal is for all to be God's children; for everyone to be saved.

> The forces of Evil, on the other hand, have the opposite goal. They
> want to wipe humanity off of the face of the earth. Evil is quick
> to condemn humanity for its many sins. However, Evil does NOT
> take people into hell to be punished. Why would Evil want them there?
> Evil doesn't even like them! Evil only takes those that it thinks
> will help it in the fight to destroy humanity. (God, of course,
> wants only to save humanity.)
> Thus everyone goes to heaven, 

Again, where is this written in the Holy Bible?

>except for the truly Evil, who go
> to Hell to join the forces of Evil.

If you aren't saved by the blood of Christ, then you're going to Hell anyway.

> The christians say that while we are alive, God wants us to find
> good. Yet, they say when we die, God gives up on us! I don't think
> God gives up.All in all, I think I have much more faith in God
> than most christians. 

I think you have more belief in God than some Christians, but not more faith. 
When have you trusted in God?

>If they had faith they wouldn't be so into
> the bible. 

Why not?

>The bible is just a book. 

Yep, you are correct.  But it does contain incredible amounts of wisdom and
teachings that came from God and His people.

>It gets in the way. Christians
> cling to it because it is their only proof. 

It is one of the PHYSICAL proofs, but not the only.  The "born-again"
experience is very real.  God is faithful.

>But religion is beyond
> proof. You can only have faith.

It takes faith to be a Christian.  You cannot "reason" God into your life.  But
God does want us to be good thinkers though.

Christianity is a saving way of life.  It is not separate of your person, as
in: "I believe in the Methodist religion".  You either are a Christian or you
are not.  There is no in-between.

> As for me, I support the forces of Evil. I think humanity is
> basically no damn good. Best to wipe it off the face of the earth.

Then you sin against your neighbor, commit murder, think murderous thoughts,
and follow idols ( just like a "religious person" ).

> Hiz Lord Dementia

Marshall

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