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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:10:39 EST
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From:         DWONG@UCONNVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Spatial statistics question - analysis at different scales?
              11 Aug 1992 16:02:11 GMT from <westk@BIONETTE.CGRB .ORST.EDU>

On Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:02:11 GMT Ken West said:
>I'm looking for references on statistical methods appropriate for analyzing
>densities and distributions of critters at different spatial scales.  I want
>to be able to compare populations over time on the same, and on different
>geographic scales (areas).  Can anyone point me to references on such analyses?
I guess you may be touching upon the so-called MAUP - the modifiable
areal unit problem, which refers to a series of problems in analyzing
spatial/geographical/ecological data of the same area at different
scale/units of resolution. Usually the analysis results varies with
scale, especially the r-square. If Stan Openshaw is on this list, or
reading com.info...., he may want to respond. One of the many references:

Openshaw, S. 1984. Concepts and Techniques in Modern Geography, #38
    The Modifiable Areal Unit Problem (Geo Books, Norwich).

David Wong
U. Connecticut
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:16:13 BST
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From:         swsdyce@SUSSSYS1.READING.AC.UK
Subject:      Drought Relief Southern Africa.
X-To:         GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

I have a great need for information about anyone working on a GIS
or anyone who knows of data sets for the Southern Region of Zambia.

The drought in Southern Africa has made it essential for the governments in
the region affected to deepen existing bores, drill new bores and build
new dams for live stock watering.

We are hoping  to find a GIS covering the region :

        25deg10minE                             28deg30minE
		|					|
15deg20minS   --|---------------------------------------|--
                |                                       |
                |                                       |
                |                                       |
                |                                       |
                |                                       |
                |                                       |
17deg50minS   --|---------------------------------------|-

The GIS used could be at present used for any purpose and I'm not fussy what
 software it uses. (I'm equally bad at all of them.) If
it contained any of the following datasets it would be a real advantage.

Data sets:
                Topography
                Drainage patterns
                Road, Rail
                Soils
                Geology
                Geophysical data.
                Aquifers. groundwater contours.
                Well and bore sites. bore piezometer levels.
                Settlements and population statistics

The idea is to produce, as rapidly as possible, information that will
help "Africare" place bores and dams in the most effective manner.

They want to save lives and they need to start NOW!!

SO COME ON BOYS AND GIRLS, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MANAGE IT BUT I'M GOING TO

TRY. THERE IS NO PAYMENT INVOLVED, YES WE ARE DOING IT FOR LOVE AND

THE GOOD FEELING YOU GET FROM HELPING YOUR FELLOW MAN


Any help,advice, data, info gratefully accepted.

Please contact me direct.


Thanks for your attention.

Peter Dyce.
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From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: GPS Data
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--- Gavin
Visualize Whirled Peas!
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:53:00 EST
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From:         Nancy Wynen <WYNEN@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Pacific Islands

        Just got this request from another list. I hope some of our
        contributors from Australia or New Zealand can help out on
        this request. You can answer him directly or through me.
        Thanks.
        =======Lots edited for faster reading===========

"Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:00:39 +1000
"From: G.McCall@unsw.edu.au
"Subject: Digitised maps of the Pacific Islands
"To: wynen@fauvax.BITNET


"Dear Nancy Wynen,

"My query is a general one:  is there a collection of digitised detailed
"maps of the Pacific islands?  I know that there are general atlases that
"have been digitised, but Pacific islands tend to disappear in most of those
"that I have seen.

"As I work on Macintosh, that format would be the handiest, although we have
"IBM in my institution as well.

"Any hints would be most appreciated, and I thank you for your time.

"Regards,
"Grant McCall
"The Centre for South Pacific Studies
"The University of New South Wales
"P.O. Box 1
"Kensington NSW 2033
"AUSTRALIA
"Tel:  (61-2) 697-2408   FAX: (61-2) 313-7859
"Grant McCall
"The Centre for South Pacific Studies
"The University of New South Wales
"P.O. Box 1
"Kensington NSW 2033
"AUSTRALIA
"Tel:  (61-2) 697-2408   FAX: (61-2) 313-7859


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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:53:04 -0700
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From:         esri!podge!dixie@UUNET.UU.NET
Subject:      Re: Minimum configuration for Arc/Info?
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              12 Aug 92 12:11:02 EDT." <9208121608.AA23186@relay1.UU.NET>

ARC/INFO 6.1 for the DEC RISC family begins shipping this week.  The
required environment is:

	Ultrix 4.2
	UWS 4.2
	Motif version 1.1 - X11R4
	Memory - 16MB minimum, 24 or 32 MB recommended
	Disk spage - 518MB
	Swap Space - 100MB minimum
	Release Media - CD-Rom (TK-50 upon request)

The DECstation5000/25 is a supported model.  The supported graphics
options for this model are: MX, HX, TX, PXG and PXG turbo.

I hope this information helps.   Dixie Hardy, ESRI Redlands Technical Support
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:51:00 EDT
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From:         Vince Angelo <esri!reston!vince@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Minimum configuration for Arc/Info?
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Trevor Bain (maherb@gov.on.ca) writes:
>A DECstation 5000-25 should do the trick for Arc/Info provided you are
>not planning on running version 6.0 of the software.  To my knowledge,
>ESRI has not ported the latest release to the DEC/ultrix platform.

I have in my hand at this moment the Arc _6.1_ CD release for DEC Ultrix.
ESRI has indeed ported to the DEC.

>Whatever you do, be sure to get enough RAM - while Arc/Info will run
>with 8MB it is  s l o w.  I would suggest looking at 16MB as an operational
>minimum and get disk space (lots of it because ULTRIX is a hog).

The Install Guide for 6.1 says:

Software Environment:
	ULTRIX		Rev 4.2a
	Window Manager	Motif version 1.1

Hardware Environment:
	Memory		16 MB minimum
	Disk Space	512 MB for all products
	Swap Space	100 MB minimum (will vary with the installation)
	Release Media	CD-ROM (RRD40-Drive)

[Yes, I Know 512 is a lot, but it's _down_ from the 6.01 release.]

Now I'm going to challenge the concept of "minimum configuration."
As a technical geek, I do processing that takes _hours_ on _FAST_
machines.  To intentionally cut performance off at the knees is not
something that _I_ would recommend.

I'm not unrealistic about cost/performance issues.  I realize there
isn't unlimited funds anywhere anymore.  I guess my point is that
"minimum" is a fuzzy term:  Minimum relative to what application??
Are you doing watershed analysis on the continental US in 1 meter
cells, or basic municipal mapping??

Right now I'm doing work for a user with a Sun SPARC 1+.  The configuration
would be fine if they had more than 12 Meg RAM.  As it is, at times it's
faster to cut a tape, drive back to my office, process it on an IPX, and
drive back.

My advice for would-be system configuration types it to keep the project
goals in mind when building a system.  Skimping on RAM to load up on
extra disk space isn't wise.  Neither is getting a fast CPU, but no (or
worse) slow disk.  There's a balance of CPU, RAM, and Disk for every
application. [The trick is to figure it out _BEFORE_ spending the money :-)]

-- Vince

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Vince Angelo (vangelo@esri.com | uunet!esri!vangelo)  /  The nice thing
  GIS Ninja/Software Guru/Unix Wizard/Technodweeb     /  about "standards"
_|_| Environmental Systems Research Institute (ESRI) /  is there are so many
_|_| ESRI-Wash,DC :: Reston, VA :: (703) 438 - 8295 /  to choose from.

 #include <std/disclaimer.h>   ("I speak only for myself.")
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:45:57 CST
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From:         Mike Frith <FRITH@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: What do you think about GIS interfaces? Input to vendor!
              16 Aug 1992 03:47:02 GMT from <panda@SYRINX.UMD.EDU>

True Lisa. I find menus somewhat limiting and I can usually type
what I want faster than pointing and clicking.  But I am familiar
with the command line and I know what I want to do whereas many
beginning users (and people with the purse strings) like to see
menus.

Mike Frith
frith@uregina1.bitnet
From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re:      Re: GIS Interfaces
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:16:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug20.171624.7498
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle

In article <0095F544.27C52320.6960@Leif.ucs.mun.ca>
sfreundsch@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:

>>>I think it's fine for academic people to propose that business people
>>>vending GIS systems should read lots of papers and peruse bibliogra-
>>>phies, but it just ain't gonna happen, folks.
>
>I don't agree.  I think that it is beginning to happen - not as fast
>as I would like, but it is.

I guess there needs to be more evidence of this.  Having now talked with
vendors around the world, I feel that there is a great deal of enthusiasm
for helping the user but a lot of complacency about knowing what it takes.

>>>At the 1990 NATO meeting on GIS interfaces, Intergraph scientist John
>>>Herring was something of a fish out of water and (I believe) dis-
>>>[stuff deleted]
>
>This was not a meeting on GIS interfaces, it was a meeting on
>understanding spatial representations and the implications for GIS.
>You should know Bob, you were there.  You certainly have proven your
>conjecture that "those who know do not talk, and those who talk
>apprently do not know".  Please Bob, talk some more for us.

Why be so unkind, Scott?  

In the letter of the conference, you are right, but the spirit was
definitely focused on interface issues.  I think this will be appa-
rent on reviewing the proceedings.

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:02:59 EDT
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From:         kchiang@ALBERT.MANNLIB.CORNELL.EDU
Subject:      Re: USGS stream gauging data
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>There is also a CD-ROM of "A Daily Stream Discharge Data Set for the
>Continental United States". We have one here, but the person that got it is
>away in a canoe in N. Quebec right now, so I can't say where it came from.
>
>				++Eric Fielding
>eric@geology.cornell.edu

The EarthInfo company in Boulder Colorado   (303) 938-1788
sells the CD Eric refers to.  They also offer other disks with hydrologic
and climatologic data.

Kathy Chiang, Computer Files
Mann Library, Cornell University
kchiang@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu
From: laviers@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Cocotte Minute)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: books/articles on automated cartography (request)
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:24:34 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Hi there!

        Part of my masters research involves the automatic generation
of level (as in altitude) maps from sampled data.

As I am new to this specific field, I was wondering I someone could be kind
enough to point me in the right direction?

Specifically, I am looking to correctly generate iso-curves of points of same 
"altitude" 
i.e. as in altitude maps: lines of 10',20', 30', etc etc 
All I know Is that this problem is not a trivial one.

More generally, I would appreciate any info on books/articles/scriptures 
containing algorithms pertinent to field of map generation or topology.

advTHANKSance

Sebastien

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|laviers@iro.umontreal.ca       | "The opinions expressed here are mine and  
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:52:48 +1000
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From:         jhr@GDWB.OZ.AU
Subject:      Re: Chart Dangers
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> An article in the NY Times today (12 Aug) points out that the nautical charts
> are based on a "sonar technology that may have overlooked higher peaks or
> boulders on an underwater ledge", described by an NOAA spokesman as "hit or
> miss".  He said "It is possible that the survey missed a shallower depth, that
> the survey passed around it and didn't see it."
>
> It surprises me that surveyors, when finding a steep shoal like this, 50 feet
> higher than the surroundings, would not look specially for its tip.  This
> points out the danger of digitizing real world data onto a fixed grid.


Yes it is surprising as especially in navigation channels, Hydrographers usually
go out of thier way to do such.

In many surveys if such a shoal is found the survey motor vessels usually
 saturate
the area with soundings to ensure they get all shoal peaks. (.. so the surveyors
can fish there !! : ).

Didn't the media say there should have been at least 7 feet clearance ?

If this is so, how many ships masters would take their ship with that margin ?

Not any military ones unless it's vital. Maybe the economics (i.e. greter $)
 pushed
the QE2 in port ?




>
> Today's article in the Times (by Felicity Barringer) ends by noting that "at
> least two of the ship's three electronic navigational systems were operating
 at
> the time" of the accident.
>

What happened to their sonar ??

Surely the QE2 was negligent ?


> -John Sullivan@geom.umn.edu
>
> ------------------------------
>
> --
> Duane F. Marble            E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu




Julien


_______________________________________________________
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_______________________________________________________
From: adr9@aber.ac.uk (Ade Rixon)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Network planning with GIS
Keywords: Telecomms, ARC/INFO, GRASS
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:34:44 GMT
Organization: University Of Wales, Aberystwyth - Party town!

As part of a large research project in my department, we are interested in the
possibilities of automating the planning of telecommunication networks in
rural areas. We believe that we could use a GIS to achieve this. I am
interested in *any* information regarding this topic, particularly on any
existing systems or programs available, and would be grateful to anyone who
can supply such information. We have ARC/INFO available and will shortly be
installing GRASS.

Thanks for your time. Sorry if this is a FAQ.

Ade_
   /
-- 
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| JANET: adr9@uk.ac.aber    /  know too much. I know too much about	|
| CS Dept, Aberystwyth UCW, /  *you*."					|
| Dyfed, Wales.             /  			- The Prisoner		|
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From:         duester@GIUB.UNIBE.CH
Subject:      IDRISI 4.0 CROSSTAB

Hallo all,

My aim is to create am image with unique conditions from several different
images with IDRISI 4.0.
If I use the CROSSTAB command, it is only possible to create an image with
new classes or to create a crosstabulation. The problem is, that the image
which is created by the CROSSTAB command contains the new classes and the
members of these classes are only to identify from the legend. Now I want
to create a VALUES-File with three columns. The first column with the ID of
the new class and the second and third column with the ID's of the
corresponding class from the two images I CROSSTABed before.

Thank you very much for your help in advance.

Best regards


Horst Duester


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From: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu (Darrell McCauley)
Subject: Re: A newsgroup/mailing list question (not directly GIS related)
Organization: Ag Engineering Dept, Purdue University 
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:53:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.115850.24505@geovision.gvc.com>, pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:

|> Why is it that in this newsgroup, far more than any other newsgroup, the
|> subject lines mutate all the time.  I've seen at least 7 different subject
|> lines for the interfaces debate.  Is it because of the bitnet gateway?

Sure makes it a heck of a lot harder to use kill files, too!  At least
the number of "Hey Fred, how's the wife?" messages have decreased. Now
maybe it's time to tackle the subject line problem. 

FOLKS: if you followup to a message, please keep the original subject line.
       Prepending "Re: " is standard, not "RE" or "     ".
       
Surveying several messages, it seems that the prepended spaces to subject
lines (as well as other lines) all have something in common:

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Can someone fix this?
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From:         John Ganter <ganter@ER1.LANL.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Postscript Problems
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Hi,

Found your recent postings on PostScript interesting.

Could you tell me what xps is, and information on getting
it if possible?  I got GhostScript but seem to be missing
some header file to do a make on it.

I am on the HP 700.

Thanks!


..........................................
  John Ganter  ganter@er1.lanl.gov

  Environmental Restoration Program
  Los Alamos National Laboratory
  Group EM-13, MS M992
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:35:27 EDT
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From:         DEMAD@UOTTAWA.BITNET
Subject:      re: PC/ARcinfo configuration

Has anyone had any success using a postscript printer with arc info namely a
QMS PS 820. We have configured the software as mentioned in the interface manua
ls. The postscipt output is sent to a file on the hard drive with success.

We then try to send this same file to the printer and no output the problem it
seems that a headher may be sent with the job or a header page ... the printer
does not accept headers.    Any clues out there on this ?

Does anyone have any experience with postscript printers outhere with the
      cgipost.sys
THe steps  are as follows :

      con-cgi hrvga= At xl wonder board  printer=cgipost.sys no sother selectio
n There seems to be no qms series printers other than a color qms .. ?

      Has anyone also been able to connect an IBM color jet printers namely an
IBM color jet 3252 printer ?

Thanks Ahead of time.....

      Donald A Desmarais The Trecky Tecky ......... live long and Digitize....
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
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I forgot to say that the GRASSx-listserver at the <moon.cecer.army.mil>
is looping for 2 hours now... FH-TUD