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Subject: Re: Highlander Questions
From: bakerjd@hiramb.hiram.edu
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:52:06 -0500
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-User: bakerjd

	From what I understand, the series takes place in the middle of
the first movie (although I believe _Starlog_ says that it takes place
between the first and second movie--but this doesn't quite make sense 
unless one says that maybe Conner becomes immortal again after Duncan is
born...), although this means that Conner will win, since that occurs
after this...I'm not quite sure I like that idea.....:-)
	_The Gathering_ (which is the pilot, and I gather you haven't seen)
says that Conner trained Duncan. I think they both have their own swords, with
Conner's sword being Ramirez's sword. Their swords look similar, except 
that I think that Conner has a "whiteish" hilt, and Duncan seems to have a 
"goldish" hilt. The blades look the same to me...
	As to other female immortals...I don't know, I've seen all of
the episodes and as far as I know, she's the only one so far...although
I think Starlog said that Immortals came in all ages, sexes, etc... 

>If Duncan was not born a MacLeod, but adopted, is this a hint that all
>the immortals were?

	Couldn't tell you! :-) That may have been said to leave open the
idea that Immortals were not orginally from the planet Earth, as presented
in the second movie, although why anyone would want to retain _anything_
from the second movie is beyond me....:-)	
	The show is filmed in Vancouver, and Starlog says that it is
set it "some American city", but I think that Seattle would be a good
guess, since on a public telephone in "Deadly Medicine", it looks like
it has an ATT West sign on it....Tessa certainly _sounds_ French Canadian,
but your guess is as good as mine....
Hope this helps....:-)
			
			-Jonobie

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From: djmccoy@netcom.com (Daniel J. McCoy)
Subject: Re: TNG, DSN, B5 and Time Trax all on one channel in LA
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:50:52 GMT

And get this!  KCOP is in STEREO now!  (Sarcasm)  Very Independant now with
Very Stereo.

I was shocked after seeing the B5 promo after last night's rerun of ST:TNG.
I had my doubts about KCOP carrying B5 for a while.

Now if we can just convince them NOT to preempt all these new shows with
Clippers and Angels games (I THINK KCOP now broadcasts Angels games).

Gonna be a happy Sci-Fi new year!
  
-- 
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Internet : djmccoy@netcom.COM or Daniel_J_McCoy@cup.portal.com
Portal   : Daniel J McCoy
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From: larne@canetoad.UUCP (Larne Pekowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: QL: Promised Land
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:06:59 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

My friend Gillian, who I've known since sixth grade, was Tommy 
Thompson's collaborator on "Promised Land," so I heard a lot 
about it while it was being written...  For instance, her 
original script was set in a small farming town in Illinois that 
was meant to remind Sam of his hometown and his family; in the 
course of prepping the script for production, it was decided to 
move the setting to Elk Ridge and the scene with Sam's Dad (as 
well as the Christmas setting) was added.

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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: The SciFi Channel stinks !! (was: Re: Does SciFi Channel cut episodes????)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:24:56 GMT


(stuff about the Sci-Fi channel resurrecting the worst of SF deleted)

    My local cable company doesn't yet carry the Sci-Fi Channel, but I've
been seeing the same ads that promote it as the last word in cable channels,
while in reality they're dreding up SF trash from the 70's, as stated by
some users here.  Similar things have happened in the past when a new cable
channel comes along making the same promises as the SF channel.  For example,
a few years ago there was talk of an all-comedy cable channel.  That rumor
materialized as the 'HA' channel' and the 'Comedy Channel'.  Here in San
Antonio we only got the 'HA' channel, and despite all the hype, it was nothing
more than a vehicle for every obscure crap sitcom from the 70's, even to the
point of showing series that only had a limted run, so they'd be thru the
whole cycle of episodes in about a week or two with some shows.  A lar,
even when they orginally aired.

Pardon the tirade, but my point is: A theory myself and a few other people
cam up with when discussing the situation with the 'HA' channels lineup of
old trash was that perhaps they were trying to create a cult following
for these old shows, hoping that no on caught on to how much they really
sucked.  Some old shows have become classics, so I guess they figured they
could be on the 'cutting edge' of a renewed interest in the absolute
fertilizer they were showing.

Perhaps the Sci-Fi channel is attempting the same thing.  Just a theory.
(BTW, HA and Comedy Channel merged into Comedy Central about 2 years ago,
with a greatly improved lineup of original shows).

I'm also thinking that the folks who run the Sci-Fi channel are catering to
their own stereotyped idea of what Science Fiction fans are like, thinking
that we all just sit around watching space movies and old Star Trek round
the clock, rather than real people with discerning tastes in what we consider
good SF.

Just my $.02 worth on the subject.

Simon

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From: chrish@netcom.com (Christina M. Hill)
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:18:17 GMT

In article <1h74t5INN556@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
>
>
>Entertainment Weekly just came out with it's best and worst of 1992 and QL
>made the list.  This is not something to be proud of.  It made the top 5
>WORST list.  I quote.
>
>	4. Quantum Leap (NBC) A sentamental choice,
>	second year running.  With the episode in which Sam
>	leapt into Lee Harvey Oswald, Quantum proved this
>	year there's nothing more tedious than a fantasy
>	show that thinks it's Serious Television.
>
>
>The others in this worst list for TV were:
>	1. Angel Street
>	2. The Heights
>	3. Picket Fences
>	4. Quantum Leap
>	5. L.A. Law
>
>I would like to thank Don Bellisario for doing this.  If QL isn't on next
>year, I think (and this is _all_ IMO) that we can blame him for trying to
>make QL into something that it just isn't.  Yes, QL can give a message and
>has done a wonderful job of doing so.  Walk a mile in my shoes --- and all
>that kind of thing.  However, we don't want history according to Don B.
>

  Oh give me a break Beth <and you too Terri>. What have we been getting
  all these years but history according to Don, Deborah, Tommy and the others.
  And I can't believe you are giving so much creedance to an article by
  a known jerk like Ken Tucker in a sleazy magazine like Entertainment 
  Weekly. Last year he put QL on his worst TV list too - sure made NBC 
  cancel it then, didn't he? And you know, I think one of the episodes he
  blasted last year was Shock Theater. You give a damn about this guy's 
  opinion?!!

  And speaking of opinions, what's wrong with Don using HIS show to voice
  his opinion about the JFK assassination? Using that logic, I should go 
  tell off Oliver Stone for the backassward opinions he gave us in HIS
  movie JFK. When you have your own TV show or movie, you can use it to tell
  us how you believe it happened too. Almost all forms of entertainment give
  us the opinion of the guy in charge in some way. Star Trek gave us 
  Gene Roddenberry's opinions, the Muppets gave us Jim Hensen's world view.
  You can disagree with the opinion, but it's the right of the producer 
  to give it too.

  I may be in a minority here, but yes, I did enjoy LHO. And the Leap Back 
  too. And I thank Don every week for going with a relatively unknown 
  actor with two TV flops behind him when some other producer might have
  gone with a name star to play Sam instead.

  I've kept silent about the Don bashing until now, but sorry, I just 
   couldn't take it anymore.

  Flame off.

  Chris 

-- 
Chris Hill      chrish@netcom.com     Prodigy MJGV51A
From: ql-archive@CISCO.COM ("Mark D Baushke")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: new leapin.* files on cisco.com:/ql-archive/text
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:20:46 GMT

Available via anonymous ftp from cisco.com:/ql-archive/text are the
following files which are up to date as of the episode 'Promised Land'
which aired on most NBC stations on 15-Dec-1992.

leapin.byday	   # of times Sam lept in on each day of the week, rev 12/21/92
leapin.bymonth     UNIX Calendar format for each leap, rev 12/21/92
leapin.byyear      episode leaps sorted by year month and day, rev 12/21/92
leapin.plot        calendar plots showing when each leap occured, rev 12/21/92
leapin.runorder    episode list in order original shown on NBC, rev 12/21/92

Thanks go to Daniel Dassow <dand@seas4.mdc.com> for providing
additional formats for this information and providing the leapin.plot
(please note that the leapin.by* formats were re-worked by me and any
errors contained are my fault and not Daniel's).

These files will be available in the ziggy.3com.com archive tomorrow
morning.

	-- Mark
	ql-archive@cisco.com
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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:26:14 GMT

In article <1h74t5INN556@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, eah4@po.CWRU.Edu
(Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
> 
> 
> Entertainment Weekly just came out with it's best and worst of 1992 and QL
> made the list.  This is not something to be proud of.  It made the top 5
> WORST list.  I quote.
> 
> The others in this worst list for TV were:
> 	1. Angel Street
> 	2. The Heights
> 	3. Picket Fences
> 	4. Quantum Leap
> 	5. L.A. Law
> 
> I would like to thank Don Bellisario for doing this.  If QL isn't on next
> year, I think (and this is _all_ IMO) that we can blame him for trying to
> make QL into something that it just isn't.  Yes, QL can give a message and
> has done a wonderful job of doing so.  Walk a mile in my shoes --- and all
> that kind of thing.  However, we don't want history according to Don B.

  Don't take Best/Worst lists so seriously, especially from a
  superficial magazine like Entertainment Weekly. (I had a
  subscription when it first starting publishing, and they
  wouldn't know an insightful, in-depth article if it came up
  and bit them on the butt.)

  A "Worst list" containing Picket Fences and QL isn't worth bupkes.

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From: scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Does SciFi Channel cut episodes????
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:44:55 GMT

roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper) writes:

>I don't know whether SciFi Channel or USA is using this technology,
>but there is equipment available that will allow you to shorten the
>running time of an episode without actually cutting anything.

>Basically, they just compress the sound and video so that it can
>be played in less time (leaving more time for commercials).  Obviously,
>in the case of sound, they have to pitch-shift to avoid having the
>voices get higher -- remember Alvin and the Chipmunks?

Yeah, but unfortunately it costs more than a pair of scissors (or
the videotape equivelent thereof).  The SF channel seems quite the
low-cost operation.
-- 
	"You can't get here from here."
From: JSMITH@NDSUVM1.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Quark Question
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:26:20 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Did anyone get the e-mail address for that person who had the taped quark
 episodes. I think her name was Lisa Jenkins. Please e-mail me if you have the
 address.

          Sincerely, James Smith ---Univerisity of North Dakota
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From: bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Date: 22 Dec 1992 21:34:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Anyone who reads my posts knows I' had to add my 2 cents to this....


I agree completely with Beth as far as Don Bellisario is concerned.
IMO (!) he has completly lost it.  His ego has become larger tahn
his talent.  

There were good things in LHO, but I still hate seeing the soapbox.

Terri in Cleveland
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From: glover@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Glover)
Subject: Re: Space Ranger(an Origin game spin off)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:21:17 GMT

The origin game is named, Space Rogue not Space Ranger,
and looks nothing like the new Series.
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Space Ranger?????
Date: 31 Dec 1992 04:46:09 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  You are right (as far as I know), the special effect are done on the
Toaster. Toaster is a pieces of hardware that runs on the Amiga. As for the
look, that is up to the person who is doing the work. The more time spent
on a project the better it will look. This setup of the Amiga is a cheap
way of getting what would cost thousands more, for each effect.
  If you had the time, you could make a movie that would pass ILM
(Industral Light & Magic) art work.
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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL in Entertainment Weekly
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:32:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: crisium.astro.ubc.ca

In article <1h7t3mINNlab@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan) says:
>
>>In article <1h74t5INN556@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse) writes:
>>>Entertainment Weekly just came out with it's best and worst of 1992 and QL
>>>made the list.  This is not something to be proud of.  It made the top 5
>>>WORST list.  I quote.
>>>
>>>The others in this worst list for TV were:
>>>	1. Angel Street
>>>	2. The Heights
>>>	3. Picket Fences
>>>	4. Quantum Leap
>>>	5. L.A. Law
>>>

   I would place "Picket Fences" in the top 6 or 7 shows on TV today (on my 
   very short list).  I would certainly agree about placing the other 4
   somewhere near the bottom.  Sorry Leapers, but EW at least got that one
   right. :)

>Top Five BEST (again ... Entertainment Weekly's [BKG])
>
>1. Roseanne
>2. Larry Sanders Show
>3. Seinfeld
>4. The Simpsons
>5. Late Night with David Letterman

   Remarkably close to my top 5!  Spooky ... (although I would put "Larry
   Sanders" at the top ... bar none!)

   Cheers,
      Brad

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From: cq401@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C. Ritter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Babylon 5 GIF's in print edition of GEnie Livewire
Date: 31 Dec 1992 00:31:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: cq401@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C. Ritter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu

The Jan./Feb. print edition of GEnie Livewire Magazine has 
TWO gif's from Babylon 5 courtesy of Warner Brothers.  One of
them is even on the cover.
 
If you are a GEnie subscriber keep an eye out.
 
If not, it might be possible to get a copy if you subscribe now.
If you need subscribing info, I can e-mail it to you.
 
-- 
 Robert Ritter  G E I  diplomatic Outpost by way of 

     cq401@cleveland.freenet.edu 
                                                                  
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From: techy@iastate.edu (Troy A. Rutter)
Subject: Babylon 5 Mail List
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:46:29 GMT

           The Babylon 5 Newsgroup Mail-List (Automated Posting)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The Babylon 5 mail list has been created to provide information
about the show to people who want to know.  It was done in the form of a
mail list because it does not yet warrant its own group, and some people
do not want to fish through all the Quantum Leap stuff in
rec.arts.sf.tv to find stuff out about B5.  (Although I love Q-Leap, 
I have difficulty finding other things on that board amongst all the 
posts.)  

     The list is maintained by me, Troy Rutter.   If there are any
questions about the group please feel free to contact me at
techy@iastate.edu.  I like to just chat too... so feel free to mail.

     To request access to the group you can set it up yourself on your
system (ask your administrator how to access a public newsgroup), or
send mail to b5-request@iastate.edu.

     To post an article to the group simply mail b5@iastate.edu.  Your 
"post" will be relayed to all the members on the mailing list.  

     This message will be posted about once a month.  Please put it in your
kill file if you don't want to see it.
    
     What is B5?  Babylon 5 is a new science fiction television show with
Warner Brothers that is set to air in 1993.  It is set upon a five kilometer
long space station, neutral to several different alien alliances.  Unlike
Star Trek, the people come to B5 to find their stories instead of seeking them
out.

   To get some of the past messages from the mailist, as well as the FAQ, 
station guide, Other Roles list,  GIFs, and other assorted goodies... you 
can anonymous FTP to ftp.hyperion.com  /pub/Babylon-5

Thanks.
   -Troy Rutter

-- 
-Troy Rutter        |The future, always so clear to me had become like
Project Vincent     |a black highway at night.  We were in uncharted
____________________|territory now, making up future as we went along.
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: ST:DS9 on WPIX-TV in NYC
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:35:54 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <Dec.29.16.37.50.1992.25211@andromeda.rutgers.edu> detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio) writes:
>The new issue of TV GUIDE for the week ending January 8, 1993
>shows the two hour debut episode STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE
>airing 8:00 PM January 7, 1992.
>
>There is also some information about the series and some other
>new science fiction series in the issue.
>
>
>-- 
>David De Trolio                     (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>We can have increased revenue in the United States without punishing
>those who have obtained economic success and personal achievement.

Friday at 8 on 56 in Boston
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Subject: Highlander Fans-READ THIS TOO!!!!!
From: bakerjd@hirama.hiram.edu
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:19:32 -0500
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-User: bakerjd

	Ok-now that I've made a fool of myself on the nets by
typing "higlander" instead of HIGHLANDER...:-) what I meant to say
was:
	Are there any HIGHLANDER fans that would like to start
a HIGHLANDER newsgroup or mailing list????  :-) 
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From: urban@yoda.fsl.noaa.gov (Art Urban)
Subject: Babylon 5 in Denver Metro Area?
Organization: Forecast Systems Lab, NOAA, Boulder CO, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:27:21 GMT

I almost hate to use this group for this but I *really* don't want to miss
an opportunity to see Babylon 5; the stuff I read in Science Fiction Age
was intriguing!

So, does anybody know who will be carrying B5 in the Denver Metro area, if
anybody? I heard that the Fox network might.

Thanx!

-- 
Art Urban 					        urban@yoda.fsl.noaa.gov
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From: grant@tiamat.ucs.sfu.ca (Grant Dimock)
Subject: Re: QL: ANIMATED(Coyote)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:14:49 GMT

In article <92355.162154SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>  writes:
> Sheesh, doesn't anyone remember "Wile E. Coyote...   Super Genius..."?

Wasn't that when Bugs substituted for the Roadrunner?
From: phd69@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R.D. Hayler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Tomorrow People
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:37:27 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <1h62dqINN7v@mirror.digex.com>, by kilroy@access.digex.com (Donna Lettow):
> These are the new episodes, correct?  I'm curious to see if they can
> live up to the orignals without the cheezy, low-budget British special
> effects and Emmy-quality acting.  I loved that show!
 	
	The new series has just finished in the UK and i thought it was
great. It doesn't really have a lot to do with the original series I
remember (I glad somebody else saw it too !) apart from the title and
the idea of kids who are "the next step in evolution" , have
telepathic powers and can teleport.

	I won't give away anymore, but I can certainly recommend
watching it. BTW what time is it being shown in the states ? Like the
original series, the new TP was on during the afternoon kids programmes
(17.15).

	Cheers, Rich
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