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From: holt@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Richard Holt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: STANFORD FOOTBALL TIX
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:25:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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I have two extra tickets (student section) for Nov. 14
Stanford vs. WSU at Stanford.... $6 each.

Richard Holt
415-497-2214


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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: My Top 25
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:52:59 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

In article <1992Nov10.135342.10153@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>just to add another poll into the works, i thought i'd post my
>vote to the rsfc poll, with a little commentary......
>
>1. Alabama. Roll f*cking Tide, Roll. No real reason to put them ahead
>            of Miami and A&M, but I dont like to move teams up on
>            an idle week, so miami has to stay at #2

Yet you moved Alabama up?  Go figure.
 
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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Alabama better than Michigan
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:52:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx92s8.7Ls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

>In article <1992Nov04.145017.39699@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

>   >win them all, then we will talk...".   Michigan is the last team in the
>   >nation to talk about "play somebody".  

>Isn't Texas A&M the last team to talk about "play somebody"?

I would say Michigan is in a pretty close race to see who should be the last
team to talk about "play somebody"!

On the serious side, it will depend on how Stanford and ND do during the
remaining season.  They are about the only ones that give either schedule
any meat.

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu


>-Alan Harder
> 
>These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Is this really true?
Keywords: Bowl game,Pulan Weedeater Bowl
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:49:21 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bx9zxA.C9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sas37147@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Splater) writes:
>I've joked about the Toilet Bowl, the Dust Bowl, the Soup Bowl, and
>all of that.  Everyone knows those don't exist.  But is there really
>a Pulan Weedeater Bowl for NCAA Division I teams?  What I have heard
>is that it is in Shreveport, Louisiana, and it is on the 26th of
>December.  Could anyone either verify this, or tell me that it is just
>another joke?  Thanks.
>
   According to my Pitt Football Media Guide, the Pulan Independence
Bowl will be held December 31. 1992 in Shreveport, Louisiana.  Kickoff
is scheduled for 11:45 AM Central Time and the game will be televised on
ESPN.

   This may indeed have been called the Pulan Weedeater Bowl last year.
I just want to know what the trophy looks like. :-)

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca)
Subject: Question for Michigan fans
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:46:34 GMT


I have a question for U of Mich. followers and fans.  Do any of you know
who on the current squad is in their last year of eligibility and/or
will be going for the draft after this season?

Posted or e-mail (ragraca@vela.oakland.edu) responses are both welcome.

Thanks in advance,

rag

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (William B. Knight)
Subject: Re: Auburn--NCAA comes a callin'
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:42:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.135040.29426@cpqhou.compaq.com> chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson) writes:

>This is really all too funny.  I remember posting something about two 
>years ago regarding a friends son who was recruited by Auburn and whose
>family had been offered perks if he went there.
>
>I was shot down by the majority of readers on the net saying I didn't 
>know what I was talking about, where's the proof, etc.
>
>Well, the NCAA's got the proof now.  Don't they?

Actually, no.  There were no allegations of recruiting violations in the
NCAA's letter of inquiry.  All of the allegations were related to the 
Ramsey case.  Apparently, Auburn waits until their players have played 
awhile before paying them. :-)

Brad

>-- 
>**************************************************************************
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: usc vs arizona
Keywords: surprising
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.221625.17914@cheshire.oxy.edu> creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman) writes:
>In article <1drrceINN9om@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>
>>I guess someone is still waiting for Arizona to choke and lose because
>>USC is picked to win by 2.  I don't know what keeps Arizona down.  
>
>Have you ever heard of media bias?
>

Point spreads are generally used to balance the money between two teams and
thus USC with it's large alumni base and following probably has more 
people laying money on USC (It's Vegas' way of encouraging more people to
take Arizona). 

John L
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Alabama at Miss. State
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:32:49 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Presumably a 9-0 record doesn't get much respect on the net, for
people continue to claime that Alabama has yet to prove itself.
OK, so Tennessee tripped and fell on its sword.  Forget all this;
how do the Tide and the Dawgs match up?

MSU offense v. Bama D - Oh, dear.  QB Greg Plump has had serious
trouble fitting into Sherrill's option offense.  The offensive
production has been inconsistent at best, which does not bode well
for MSU's point total.  MSU cannot rely on big plays, but must
come up with steady, consistent drives.  Big advantage here to
Alabama, but expect several new wrinkles from Sherrill.

Bama offense v. MSU D - Oh, dear.  Though the Bama offense is not
going to threaten any offensive records this year, they have been
consistent with the rushing game.  Before anyone brings up the
Ole Miss game, let me observe that if you saw the defense pile 9
men on the line of scrimmage you wouldn't try to run much either.
Which highlights the dilemma for the MSU D:  they have to stop the
run without opening up the pass.  Jay Barker got a lot of practice
picking up the blitz against Ole Miss; this week it pays off.  Look
for Kevin Lee to have a big game if he can get behind the coverage.
I think Bama's rotating running backs make the difference; three
different tailbacks have demonstrated the ability to break through
the line.

Bottom line:  Alabama has been consistent, MSU hasn't.  The homefield
advantage will help, but it won't be enough.

Alabama 24, MSU 10


Jim Thomas
Penn State
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Washington vs. Arizona
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 23:23:09 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Originator: chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Nov7.234859.28700@u.washington.edu>, baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes:
> In my previous post, I meant to say: "The dispute over #1 is over!!"
> 
> :)
> 
> -Behzad
> 
> 

	Yes, Miami is number #1 if they can hold off everyone else.

Hats off to Arizona, they played a heck of a game.  Dick Tomey should
be commended for his game plan.  The Wildcats did everything they were
supposed to do and defeated the Huskies fair and square.  Good luck to 
Arizona for the rest of the season.

	I am bummed out, but the season is not lost.  The Huskies with
this streak thing off their back have a chance now to concentrate on 
what is really important - the Rose Bowl.  Despite the loss, the Huskies 
will go to the Rose Bowl if they win their last two games and that should
be easy.  

	I saw several things in the Washington-Arizona game that is encouraging
for the Huskies however.  I think this loss will allow the young players on
the team -- Napolean Kaufman, Jason Shelley, and company to taste the
bitterness of defeat.  I think Shelley and Kaufman will remember the game
losing mistake that they made the rest of their career and become better 
players because of that.   I think Shelley and Kaufman will be superstars 
by the time they are seniors. 

	I am encourage because all in all the Huskies are still solid and
with the emergence of young players, they will still be one of the best 
football teams in the land next year.  

	Go Huskies! -  Onward to Rose Bowl!

- Chung Yang
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Subject: Big8 questions
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 08:50:50 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


1st, someone from Pitt (cmhst6+@pitt.edu) sent me email
looking for the Big8 Predictions last week.  I had sent 
it to you, but got it bounced back to me on Wed.

Now for the rest of you Big8 readers.
Is there anything you'd like me to change, add or subtract 
in my reports?  Preview, review, predictions.   Are the 
reports getting to most of you before Friday.   I'd appreciate
any constructive criticism [as well as any praise].
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cfnag@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Norm Garrett)
Subject: Northern Iowa no longer unbeaten
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 22:31:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

FLASH!

Eastern Illinois has just defeated previously unbeaten Northern Iowa in a
Gateway Conference game.  The score was 21-15.  Eastern is now 4-6 and
Northern Iowa 8-1.

Eastern led at the half 14-0.  Northern Iowa scored to make the score 14-7
and Eastern scored with less than 2 minutes left to put the game away.
Northern Iowa scored with 30 seconds left to close the gap to 21-15 after
a successful 2 point conversion.  A Northern Iowa onsides kick after the
touchdown was recovered by Eastern, who then ran the clock out.


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:09:16 EST
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big8/SWC merger


In article <1992Nov2.171743.31158@slate.mines.colorado.edu>,
wbarnard@slate.mines.colorado.edu (BARNARD WILLIAM NORCOM J ) says:
>
>  With all of the rumors about CU moving to the PAC 10 and Texas
>  and Texas A&M leaving the SWC, I wonder why there has been no
>  talk of forming a new conference with the best teams of the
>  BIG 8 and the SWC?
>
>  Imagine a conference with CU, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas A&M
>  as its core.  Other teams which could/should be included may be Kansas,
>  Kansas St., Baylor, Univ. of Houston, Texas Tech, etc.  This type of
>  conference makes sense with respect to TV revenues as well as
>geographically.
>  It makes no sense to me to have Texas or Texas A&M flying to Wisconson or
>  California to play games.  (Especially when the less well funded programs
>  like women's basketball and volleyball would be taxed by these new travel
>  expenses.)

Actually, ESPN reported last night that a possible merger of the
Big * and the SWC will be on the agenda at the NCAA convention in
January.  I suspect a lot will depend on the revenues generated by
the SEC championship, since a merger of the full conferencers would
necessitate a championship game.

As wary as I have been (and still am) about all of these conference
expansions, I think this would be a good move for both conferences.
Both have become somewhat insulated (inbred? :)) in recent years, and
an infusion of new blood could revitalize all of the programs involved.

And let's face it:  Nebraska-Texas A&M would be one hell of a game!



Jim Thomas
Penn State
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 13:59:21 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:30:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <BxK1tD.2yx@rice.edu> tomscud@ruf.rice.edu writes:

> In article <1992Nov11.132751.4957@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@okeefe.helios.nd.edu
> |>
> |> I'd like to hear some opinions from loyal Canes fans out there.
> |>
> |> If Alabama stumbles and the rest of the top ten remains the same, do
> |> you think the Mighty Canes will play an undefeated Texas A&M team
> |> in the Cotton Bowl or, "chicken out" and play a once beaten Cornhusker
> |> team in their home stadium?
> |>
> |> 		- inquiring minds want to know
> |>
> |> 			rob
> |>
> |>
> |>
> Well, it's A'n'M's decision (the cotton bowl's really), assuming that A'n'M is
> ranked ahead of Ablama and Nebraska (or Flahryda and Nebraska).  If the Cotton
> Bowl wants Miami, they get Miami.  If they wanna wimp out and pick Notre Dame
> or somebody, thats their choice.

  No, it ain't A&M's decision.  Miami must ACCEPT the Cotton Bowl's invite,
assuming Alabama stumbles, to play.  A&M has NO (official) choice in the matter
so far as I am aware.  I'm sure the Cottom would love to have Miami if they
remain undefeated.  I'm sure most people consider the ball in Miami's court,
specifically the athletic director.  I assume he gets to make the decision,
since I would think the *players* would prefer to take on the highest ranked
team available and play'em anywhere they had to, simply to put an end to
controversy.  Which is not to say they might prefer to play in the Orange
Bowl, all else being equal, but A&M is contractually obligated to the Cotton,
so if Miami wants to play us, they're gonna have to come over here.  Assuming
A&M and Miami win out and 'Bama does not, of course.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
GIVE ME A BREAK!  MIAMI WILL WIN ANYWHERE THEY PLAY IT IS JUST A MATTER
OF BY HOW MUCH.  I WAS AT THE COTTON BOWL WHEN THEY CREAMED TEXAS AND
IT WAS LIKE MIAMI WAS PLAYING ON TEXAS' HOME FIELD BECAUSE THE FANS WERE
ALL FOR TEXAS.  I WOULD RATHER SEE AN ALABAMA VS. MIAMI GAME BECAUSE
I DON'T THINK THE AGGIES HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES, I MEAN WHO HAVE THEY
REALLY PLAYED.


Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: yang@math.duke.edu (Joe Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UW-Arizona Game II
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:01:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6847
Distribution: usa

Here is the second mail my friend sent me:

----------------------------

~
From: corsol@byron.u.washington.edu (Lee Corso)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:29:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov11.202947.23930
Reply-To: corsol@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I am back!!!!

I told you all along that the Huskies sucked and were not a good team.  I would
rank them #106, one higher than WSU #107.  I pick Arizona to make it to the
Rose Bowl...  Here are my picks for th week:

Oregon State 19, UW 17          After the loss to Arizona, the Huskies lose 
                                focus and lose their last 2 games, only to
                                find out on Sunday that all their games this
                                year are forfeited by the PAC-10.

Arizona 35, USC 24              Curtis Conway plays the game of his life,
                                scoring 3 TD's, but Arizona is simply the
                                best team in the PAC-10.

Miami 100, Temple 3             Miami is the best.  Temple misses 10 other 
                                field goals, wide right.

Michigan 70, Patsie HS 2        Grbac is sacked in the endzone on Michigan's 
                                first drive, but they score 10 TD's to put
                                things in perspective.

I don't even know who Alabama or Texas A&M are playing, but who cars?  They
are both going to lose.

FSU wins

UCLA wins...  Tommy "gun" Maddox runs for 2 TD's and throws two more to Sean
              Lachapelle, as Kevin Williams rushes for 200 yards in 3 carries
              and 2 TD's.

Stanford 24, WSU 10             Drew Bledsoe is sacked 10 times and the WSU
                                offense is proven impotent.  John Lynch
                                returns an interception 50 yards for a TD.

Nebraska...  who cars?  I don't like Dr. Tom anyways.
Colorado...  Pffft...  puhleez.  They are not even a real team.
Marshal Faulk...      Who?  What?

Remember everyone, vote Torretta for the Heisman.  Miami has won 26 games 
in a row and hence Torretta deserves the trophy.


Your nightmare,
-Lee Corso
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: katkere@krusty.eecs.umich.edu (Arun L. Katkere)
Subject: Re: My Top 25
Reply-To: katkere@engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:59:37 GMT

In article <92315.145310JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> In article <XjB=-X=@engin.umich.edu>, quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
|> says:
|> >
|> >In article <1992Nov10.135342.10153@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
|> >rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
|> >>just to add another poll into the works, i thought i'd post my
|> >>vote to the rsfc poll, with a little commentary......
|> >>
|> >>1. Alabama. Roll f*cking Tide, Roll. No real reason to put them ahead
|> >>            of Miami and A&M, but I dont like to move teams up on
|> >>            an idle week, so miami has to stay at #2
|> >
|> >Yet you moved Alabama up?  Go figure.
|> 
|> He moved Alabama up because 1.  Alabama beat LSU, and 2.  he felt like it.
|> Both of which fall within his stated criteria--not moving up teams that
|> coming off an idle week.
|> 
|> Jim Thomas
|> Penn State
|> 
|> 

Again, Go figure!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Hobert, UW on the ropes.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 21:02:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <Q7==sCA@engin.umich.edu> chyang@ruapehu.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>> loan?" :-D    They also said that the NCAA has announced the
>> beginning of a full investigation of Hobert and the entire
>> UW football program.  If anything else is found, look for some
>> major-league sanctions.
>> 
>I really hope this think does not get out of hand.  Washington 
>has just started to start something wonderful and I hope that
>it will not be spoiled because of an bad apple.  
>

The really sad thing is you are right.  Don James has run, by all accounts,
a clean and extremely successful program.  If UW gets sanctions placed against
them for this incident, unless they are somehow shown to be majorly involved,
it would be a tragedy.  I am tired of situations where players, or sometimes
even coaches, make a mistake, and the whole program suffers.  If BJ, or even
if one of the assistant coaches, does something illegal (by NCAA standards),
then they should pay, not the team...

I would hate to have anything happen to UW, as they are one of the nation's
premier teams, and we need more teams like them...
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: harbinjm@infonode.ingr.com (Mitch Harbin)
Subject: RE: 'ROUND the BOWL and DOWN the HOLE
Keywords: JJ CLYDE, Does 31-11 mean anything to you?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:35:41 GMT

I seem to remember the phrase 'round the bowl and down the hole on the
net the last week or so.  Does 31-11 mean anything to you.? Does less
than 40 yards on the ground mean anything?  Does a BAMA ass kicking mean
anything to you?

Sorry, I lost my head there for a moment.  But when people use the 'round
the bowl and down the hole thing is makes us BAMA people crazy, makes us
want to beat up on somebody, makes us want to make them have the worst
record in school history.  That phrase sort of pisses us off, if you know
what I mean.  Please, for LSU's sake, don't do it again.

Have a nice day and ROLL TIDE!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Virginia vs NCSU game (was My Top 25)
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:39:46 GMT

>
>Tell that to George Welsh. There have been articles in the paper here
>recently about some of the players being upset at Welsh's offensive
>calls. The passing game was going so well at the beginning of the year,
>the coaches apparently told the players that Virginia football meant 
>running the ball and they were going to have to change things. That's
>when the offense starting going down the drain. 
>
>>
>>It was unbelievable. I have heard other teams being booed by their own
>>fans before, but right after ONE missed pass? only a few plays into the
>>game?
>
>It wasn't after *one* missed pass. It was after watching an offense that 
>started off the season scoring 45 points per game score a whopping
>1 touchdown against Division I teams in 10 quarters of football. I
>agree that booing your team is a little much and if I was at
>the agme, I'd probably be a little upset, but you have no idea how
>frustrating it is to watch a team flop when you know they can do
>much better.
>
>I disagree with your assessment that the fans didn't allow their
>team to win. IMHO, the coaching staff is completely to blame for
>Virginia's recent performance.         
>
>


While I agree that coaches actions sometimes warrent booing ultimately
it's the players that are hurt by it regardless of who the boo's
are aimed at. When you think of all the work those guys put in just
for the chance to play football a few weekends a year and then their own
fans boo when they play. What good does it do? It just hurts the players
confidence and makes a bad situation worse.  Save the critisim for the
coaches radio show or some other forum and give the players all of the
support you can during the game.