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From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Satellite Labels
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:41:41 GMT

I normally buy a Satellite viewers guide occasionally at the local
convenience store. They were out of the regular (Satellite Guide or
something similar... not important) but they had one OnSat. I tried it.

I notice the labels for the Satellites are different. What I am used to
calling F4 they call F6. My regular calles the Canadian birds E1 and E2
where OnSat calls them A2 and A1 respectively. 

Which is right?

tj
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: IRC chat scheduled for Sun Jan 10 at 4pm ET
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 04:31:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


Sun Jan 10 at 4pm ET will be the next IRC meeting.  Due to finding
a way to get a clean IRC log, I will not be able to send out
transcripts almost immediately after the chat session.  

Since the transcripts recorded the older way are very messy, I have
decided not to edit those.  I also feel there was no important info
in those first few, so I think not much info is being lost.  

Details on transcripts will come shortly after the IRC chat.

See you on Sunday!

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:10:18 EST
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CBDA7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      What did I see?

I have seen some strange looking dish systems around, like multi-feed dishes,
etc, but about a week ago I saw what looked like a multi-dish feed array.
Ie, there were about 7  6-10 foot dishes all attached to the same array,
aiming at a single feedhorn.  I think the dishes may have been hexagonal,
with each of 6 dishes bordering one of the sides of a central dish.  The
dishes were truely separate with spaces of 6-10 inches between them.  They
were also quite shallow dishes, so as to allow them to focus out to a
distant feedhorn.   Anyway, what is the purpose of such an array, ie what
advantages would this have over a larger 1 peice dish?  At first I
thought that each dish might be aiming at a different sat, but this
obviously couldn't work.  The only advantage I can see to such a system is
that the individual sections would be easier to ship, and install than
a very large (ie 20 feet or so) single piece dish.  Any ideas?
B.J.
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From: mrb1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (maurice.r.baker)
Subject: Whoops, wrong email reply address re: Antigua TVRO
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:15:48 GMT

Hi Again ---

Excuse the extra bandwidth here, but I believe that I accidentally
(force of habit) gave the wrong e-mail reply address in my previous posting
several minutes ago re: TVRO in Antigua.


The correct address is    jj1028  at  hogpa.att.com


We changed machines several months ago & I think the forwarding no longer
does!

Thanks,
Maurice Baker
From: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: FCC Docket           6/15
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: frank.kennedy@u2u.lonestar.org (Frank Kennedy) 

   [ ...Continued From Previous Message ]


           though many programmers and engineers estimate that decoders

           should be retailed at $200.00 or less.









               The emergence of Titan as a decoder manufacturer is

          problematical.  CSC believes the Commission could do a better job

          in opening up the market to competition, rather than locking

          consumers into products supplied by two companies that  have

          inbred and intertwined interests.


          E. CSC Recommends FCC Look at the S.U.N. Decoder  Technology

               In 1991, the possibility for actual decoder competition was

          created by the DECTEC Corporation, which sought to introduce the

          Security Universal Norm (S.U.N.) decoder interface.  The  SUN

          technology, which emulates and is compatible with other

          encryption systems offers a competitive product at a reasonable

          cost to consumers ($200.00). At the same time, it allows

          programmers to have independent control over what encryption

          systems they wish to choose and authorize to their subscribers.

          The S.U.N. interface would virtually eliminate theft of

          programming services in the video marketplace, due to its

          reasonable cost and use of a smartcard to allow the frequent

          replacement of authorization codes.

               CSC urges the Commission to seriously consider the S.U.N.

          decoder interface capabilities, including its potential  for

          introducing bona fide competition in the decoder field.


















           IV.  THE PERILS OF THE HSD CONSUMER

           A. Electronic Counter Measures

                Since 1986, HSD owners have been subjected to electronic

           counter measures (ECMs) carried out by the DBS Authorization

           Center under GIC's control.  It is widely believed that ECMs are

           intended to zap the decoder boxes of unlawful cable satellite

           programming viewers.  Yet on many occasions this electronic

           maneuver has darkened the screens of lawful, fully paid-up

           subscribers.

               There are other, less well known, motivations for ECMing.
   [ Continued In Next Message... ]

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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:47:49 -0500
From:         Becky Gainey <bgainey@AUSTIN.ONU.EDU>
Subject:      Star Trek Tours

In article <9301051501.AA19118@austin.onu.edu> bgainey@AUSTIN.ONU.EDU
(Becky
Gainey) writes:
<
<
<<I have toured the Paramount lot several times. Once was on a paying tour
<<(open to the public). We did tour the Star Trek sets as well as other
<<Paramount sets like Arsenio's, Cheers, etc. We also saw costume and prop
<<areas.

Star Trek movie sets or ST:TNG TV sets?  If it was ST:TNG TV sets, you were
extremely lucky.

<In reply to what Vidiot wrote above:

It was ST:TNG TV sets, but as I said, it was several years ago and they may
have changed their tour set up since. There were sets that were definitely
closed unless you knew someone. In our case, we just went to the side gate
(not the famous one) and they had a ticket booth and also a t-shirt, coffee
mug, etc. sales area. At that time, they only ran two tours a day and at
certain times of the year, they shut down. We were out there around the
holidays, so there was no production going on. That might explain why we
had such an extended tour.





***************************************************************************
Becky S. Gainey
Ohio Northern University Cable Television
Cable Manager
Performing Arts Center
Ada, OH 45810
INTERNET:    bgainey@austin.onu.edu
PHONE:       419-772-1197
FAX:         419-772-1932
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:58:15 EST
From:         Jason Lin <71043.1570@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Court TV Schedule and Raw Feeds

Does anyone know where Court TV has its backhaul?  I have watched the
network's coverage of the Colorado Amendment 2 today but was frustrated by
the interruptions of commercials.

Also, anyone know how its schedule works?  It seems to repeats highlights
of the day program at night.
From: alberter@untadi.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: LEAKAGE SIGNAL FROM A DISH (was: no subject given)
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:25:59 GMT
Reply-To: alberter@untadi.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH, Muenchen


In article <HOMESAT%93011009443243@VM1.NODAK.EDU>,         F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET writes:
|>
|>      I heard that residents nearby a home satellite dish are able to
|>receive the same satellite programming that the TVRO owner is receiving
|>using an ORDINARY UHF TV ANTENNA AND A BOOSTER, IS THERE ANY TRUTH TO THIS ?
|>

My neighbour (American, working in Germany) has a receiver that allows him to
send the same signal out, that the receiver currently processes. This would
enable UHF-viewers in an area of 200-300 meters around the satellite dish
to get this signal. So I guess, the dish/receiver configuration must have 
particular capabilities to do this - my own system doesn't.

I guess this kind of transmission is not permitted in some countries because
of the interferences with regular aerial signals that this could cause.

I doubt that general dishes would leak out signals - it would mean a loss
of signal strength, wouldn't it?

--

regards,
Ludwig

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From: tomc@Tandem.com (Tom Clark)
Subject: Re: Mixing Dish & Antenna Inputs to the TV
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:00:15 GMT

My IRD ( a Houston Tracker 10) combines my roof antenna with the satelite
signal on the RF output.  I just put the antenna in to the RF input
and watch either the satelite shows on channel 3 or the other broadcast
stations (both of them ;-( ) on their respective channels.  I send this
combined signal around the house for my remote TV's and it works fine.

    Tom Clark
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re:      Re: Installation of Dish
Organization: DSC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:13:28 GMT

In article <199301051910.AA18062@sunset.cse.nau.edu>,         Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU> writes:
> 
> Larry - Can you describe the set up for your "leveling bolts" on your
> concrete slab?  The next installation I do, I might want to include something
> along those lines.
> 
> THANKS
> 
> - Bob Wier

Pretty simple, really. The dish is mounted on a pole, about  4 or 5 inches
in diameter. Welded to the bottom of the pole is a metal plate, about 1/4 inch
thick, that is square. There are gussets between the plate the pole, too,
for strength. There are four slots in the outer parts of the plate, each 
being about 30 degrees of a circle. In the concrete base are four bolts,
placed the diameter of that circle apart. Then nuts are screwed down on the
bolts, then BIG washers, then the pole is placed over the bolts, then more
big washers, then nuts on top. You can then rotate the entire dish/pole
assembly many degrees to find true south, and you can adjust the levelness
of the pole by raising or lowering some combination of the mounting nuts.
These are pretty big bolts, maybe 1/2 inch or so. Because the plate on the
pole is mounted low, and because there are four bolts, there is no play. 

And as I said before, in 10 years it has stayed where it is and has given me
no trouble at all. Leveling was great - I just laid a level on the metal plate
and adjusted the nuts until the bubble was in the right place!

Hope this helps,

Larry


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From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted on Monterey 90/95
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 03:11:14 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:10:32 GMT
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Opinions wanted on Monterey 90/95
i've had a 50 since sept. and its exactly the same as the 90 except for
surround sound and pip and it has no bugs at all. the remote does
'hiccup'  but that's an annoyance not a bug.
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Monterey 20
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:50:36 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Durham

I have the opportunity to buy an ex-demo Monterey 20 and Nokia D2-Mac decoder for about
700 UK pounds and am seriously thinking about it, but would like some feedback from
current users of either system.

In addition to whatever people can tell me about the Monterey 20, I'd like to know how
difficult it is to hook it up to external decoders (such as VideoCrypt, etc).

Thanks,
Scott

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:00:38 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Sat Names

>There have been several messages recently about the disappearance of F4.
>Which F4???? I hope that is not C4. Bob


F4R, AKA D2.

The canadian one, where Nostalgia TV is for the moment.  The Canadians want
it back.

C4 is C4.

Here in this group, we call the satellites by their GIVEN names, not the
silly nicknames given them by the TVRO magazines.

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From: edg@ecs.comm.mot.com (Ed Gonzalez)
Subject: INTELSAT INFO WWANTED -WORLD CUP USA94
Organization: trunking_terms
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:12:47 GMT

Hello there!

I need info on Intelsat  birds that were/will be
used for the World Cup Soccer games, to be held here
at home in 1994.  

Specifically:  Which birds were used for South America.
               What band was used (C/Ku)
               Which polarity (Vert,Horiz,Circ).
               Which Format is used (SECAM,PAL,NTSC).
               How many watts are used for these
               occasions?
From: haberfieldm@uproar.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: BSB system conversion : HELP!
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:29:18 GMT
Reply-To: haberfieldm@uproar.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Me too please....I would be greatful for *any* info on how I can go about
getting a little more life out of my Philips BSB system.  Since they stopped 
transmitting from MarcoPolo at the end of last year things have been rather
quiet. :-(
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:22:02 GMT
From:         cs0773@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA
Subject:      Re: miscellaneous question

Someone posed the question ... (I forget who since I lost
the original message)

1) Between the literature and installers, the consensus is that for
   someone in NC, a 7.5' dish/25 degree LNB or a 10' dish/40 degree
   LNB combination gives approximately the same picture quality.
   What do I gain if I decide upon a 10' 25 degree combination?

Well, assuming the same reflector efficiency 43%, and 5 degree
elevation angle (giving the most antenna noise of 58 K), and an
EIRP of 38 dBW this is what I get ...  (Worst Case Senario)

        7.5' 25 K  weighted S/N of 43.5 dB and a C/N of 13.9 dB
       10.0' 40 K  weighted S/N of 45.3 dB and a C/N of 15.7 dB
       10.0' 25 K  weighted S/N of 46.0 dB and a C/N of 16.4 dB

Of course using a higher elevation angle will get you a better
picture since there is less atmosphere for the signal to go
through, and earth noise, etc.

So a 10' 25 degree combination will gain you 0.7 dB over the
10' 40 degree, and 2.5 dB over the 7.5' 25 degree.

So, the 10' 25 degree is 17% better than the 10' 40 degree,
and 77% better than the 7.5' 25 degree system ...

Also, the 10' 40 degree is 1.8 dB or 51% better than the 7.5'
25 degree system.

Assuming a receiver threshold of 8 dB, and if you want a 7 dB
fade margin only the ten footer will deliver it ...

Also note that the FCC standard for CATV operations requires a
47.0 dB weighted S/N ratio.  But for home dish usage most people
are happy with 42.0 dB S/N.

Also, consider the -3 dB beamwidth too when considering a dish
especially now that 2 degree spacing is being used.

A typical 7.5' dish has 2.4 degree -3dB beamwidth, while a
10' has a 1.8 degree -3dB beamwidth... Anything above 2.0
degree and you will (possibly) pickup Co-channel interferance.

So GET THE 10 FOOTER!



Standard Disclaimers Apply!  I may have made a calculation error, etc.

---
John Roberts
cs0773@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
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From: gadams@ph2.uni-koeln.de (Gunnar Adams)
Subject: Re: Sky going to encrypt Sky One and Sky News..
Organization: Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R.
	Germany
Distribution: rec
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:51:07


I think it will not be possible to subscribe the SKY channels outside of
the UK. We are very disappointed that BSkyB will scramble all channels from
July 1993. Someone should tell them that there are people outside UK who
enjoy watching their programs. We would even be willing to subscribe to them.

Greetings,

	Gunnar
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: SatTrak 1.02 (Mac)
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:36:53 GMT

I found this in comp.binaries.mac.


Newsgroups: comp.binaries.mac
Subject: SatTrak 1.02 DEMO (part 1 of 7)
From: pfluegerm@gtephx.UUCP (Mike Pflueger)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 08:00:36 GMT
Organization: AG Communication Systems - Phoenix, AZ

[SatTrak 1.02 DEMO - part 1 of 7]

Enclosed is SatTrak, a satellite tracking program for the Mac.  It
allows you to plot the position of any satellite, including a real-time
graphical display.  It does quite a few other things of interest to
hams/SWL's - it calculates beam headings, grid locators, line-of-sight
distance to the horizon, MUF (maximum usable frequency) predictions,
wavelengths/harmonics, and even shows a couple of simple dipole
designs.

This is version 1.02, which fixes a couple of bugs in 1.01: 
    - there was an error in the doppler shift calculation which caused
      incorrect values.  The error was most noticable for geostationary
      satellites and frequencies in the GHz range.
    - there were cases where COPY didn't always work correctly.

Requires Mac Plus or better, System 6.0 or better.  Shareware.

The enclosed elements file should be placed in your system or
preferences folder before you launch SatTrak.  It is accurate as of
about 10/1/92.  If you have more recent orbital elements, feel free
to use them, of course.

(NOTE: Print, copy, and save are disabled in this version.  If you pay
the shareware fee, I'll give you a password to enable these functions)

If you can't download from the network, send a floppy (800K or 1.4M)
and a prepaid mailer to the following address and I'll send you the
program:

SatTrak
Mike Pflueger
6207 W. Beverly Ln.
Glendale, AZ  85306 
  
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From: gary@aragorn.inmos.co.uk (Gary Morton)
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Reply-To: gary@inmos.co.uk (Gary Morton)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:09:14 GMT

In article <HOMESAT%93010516113421@VM1.NODAK.EDU> F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET writes:
>Subject: R.S. / PPV
>
>    Can Sky TV (the British Sky Channel) be received from a location at
>46.46 East Longitude / 24.39 North Latitude ?
>
The footprint of the Astra satellite (positioned at 19 degrees East [of south])
only covers mainland Europe and the UK. I would imagine that there is little
chance of picking up any strength of signal from even the east coast of the
US. I don't even know whether there is line of sight to the satellite from
the US.

BTW the company is now called BSkyB. They provide the following channels
on Astra : Sky One ; Sky News ; Sky Sports (*) ; Sky Movies Plus (*); the
Movie Channel (*) ; Sky Movies Gold (*). [I've got the names of at least
one of the movie channels wrong]. The channels marked with (*) are
videocrypt encoded and are available in the UK *only*, by subscription.

As to why you would want to receive Sky One - I don't know :-) , they show
mainly US originated programs anyway, possibly because the UK program
providers (BBC etc) won't sell them any programs (I beleive).

-- Gary
+---------------------------( Gary Morton )-----------------------------+
|Disclaimer: The opinions above are my own personal views etc.          |
|Inmos Ltd, 1000 Aztec West, Bristol, UK         Email : gary@inmos.com |
+-----------------------( +44 454 616616 X526 )-------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: matt@ra.oc.com (Matthew Lyle)
Subject: comments on specific equipment
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:04:24 GMT

Anybody have any comments, pro or con, on this equipment:

	Drake 1524 IRD
	Unimesh 10' Dish
	Chaparral LNB

This is a configuration that has been suggested by a local dealer.

Thx!

-- 

Matthew Lyle                                           matt@oc.com
                                                       matt@utdallas.bitnet
OpenConnect System, Dallas, Texas                      (214) 888-0474
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:00:00 CST
From:         I'D RATHER BE FISHING THAN ON THE VAX <REDLCW@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OnSat Address Elaine Johnson

Elaine,
    More than happy to. Better yet how about the toll free number?
        1(800)234-0021
        OnSat
        P.O. Box 2347
        Shelby, NC. 28151-2347
I think the sub is about $50.00 a year.
                                                        For Your Info,

                                                        Ross E. Doyle
                                                        Batavia, Il.

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From: alh@cypress.com (Andy Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Mixing Dish & Antenna Inputs to the TV
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:54:35 GMT


>2. Since I am distributing to monophonic TVs in other parts of my house, I
>   have not verified that stereo sound is distributed correctly.  
>
>             .---------------------------------------------------------------- 
>            /Internet email: sher@bbn.com
>Larry Sher <        US Mail: BBN, MS 6/5A, 10 Moulton St., Cambridge, MA 02138
>            \     Telephone: (617) 873 3426    FAX: (617) 873 3776
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The stereo inputs on the *box* are mixed to get mono.  That's whats described
in the manual at least and my second TV does not light up the stereo light when
receiving the SAT.

I have one of these boxes.  It does a good job.  I input the SAT on the video
inputs and therefore get the SAT on 14,15,16,17.  I did not notice the fine
print about ch 64 & 66 though could you expand...?
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: satelites and microwaves
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 19:48:01 -0500

Quick ? for ya...

Do satalites use MicroWaves for there transmissions?

J'mes  
 
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