HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Baby, I'm the best (Czech me out).
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:05:23 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>As for whether I'm good, it isn't for me to say.  Good
>enough to have given about 100 public concerts, I guess,
>with favorable press.

I see something funny here, and I need broad cultural imput to
resolve it.

Over here, in my wonderful pathetic swamp (he said with a 
most loving tone of voice) years of protestantism and 
reformation have ingrained into the collective mode of conduct 
that bragging is an absolute no-no.

But it has gone overboard here in the Netherlands, to the
point that pride is something almost frowned upon, and any 
hint that you may be better in something than anybody else
is to be sublimated.

Our national motto is 'doe maar normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg.'
(Just act normally and you'll be already acting crazy enough).
Modesty is cherished here to the point that people are slightly 
ashamed of being exceptionally talented.

We are slowly getting out of that. As we should if we are
to compete.

I personally think people are quite capable of appraising their own 
capabilities. This is probably becuase I am my own harshest critic, 
but I really think that you can be honest in judging yourself.

I thought that the new world was quite free from this fear of
saying that you might be good in something, to the point that
the cultural cliche over here of an inhabitant of the USA is
someone who brags and brags and brags.

But now Jess' remarks has me made me wonder: what is the 
position of modesty in the Americas?
					FJ!!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: ???Behaviorist Brainwashing????
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:09:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.054858.3022@news.unomaha.edu> ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>Why do people spend so much time arguing about whether child molesters are
>straight or gay?

Because people like Haugh NEED to be able to say that homosexuality
marks the fall of Western Civilization, and they will go to no end of
rationalization to do so.

>Seems to me that attraction to children is an entirely
>different thing form being attracted to motss or motos.

Exactly.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
From: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Born Again Virgin (Re: Pride Parades)
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:46:44 GMT
Reply-To: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <jgefpvs@fido.asd.sgi.com>, dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr13.143752.92825@watson.ibm.com> jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
|> 
|> >on second thought, RIP UP MY QUEER CARD -- then i can be a closetted
|> >virgin again, ripe for picking...
|> 
|> 
|> Honey, It ain't that easy....
|> 
|> 

Awww, all it takes is a little Alum :-)

Later,
George


-- 
Why don't they just hire taller ballet dancers instead of making
them dance on their tip toes ??		M. Rochlin
From: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Auto-Fellatio (Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <15APR92.10134640@enh.nist.gov>, aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
|> From a discussion I had with a number of friends years ago in college, the
|> 1 in 5 is about right, but amongst us all, only the Jewish men could do
|> it while the non-Jews couldn't.  Coincidence?
|> 
Hmmm, I'm half Jewish and I can only half reach.  Maybe it's not such a coincidence :-)  

Later,
George

-- 
Excuse me, could you scream just a little louder ??  I can't seem to hear
you.
From: ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Future Opera Queen Needs Help
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:31:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

I'm a Vocal Music major, and Mr. Houfek, my instructor, has been telling
me to do more listening to opera music to get a better idea of what's
expected of me. I *was* spacing the suggestion, but I've been making a
lot of progress over the past month or so and want to keep it going. So
if anyone knows of any recordings of (male preferred) singers that have
exemplary technique, please e-mail me.

Soon to be seen in tights on opera house stages the world over,

---
John Dorrance				** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **
ACM022@zeus.unomaha.edu
	You bring me to my knees while I'm scratching at the eyes
	Of a world I want to conquer and deliver and despise.
From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: perfect woman, was Re: A motss farce...
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:58:47 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, Peel House, Ladywell, Livingston EH54 6AG, UK

In article <AAG.92Apr6191457@sibyl.aber.ac.uk>,
aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) writes:

> [...] I was sitting in the Student's Union
> bar having a pint with my pizza this lunchtime when their latest video
> came on (now, now, mustn't drool into the stout ;-)

> [sundry droolings omitted]

A pint of stout for *lunch*?  Is there no *limit* to what
motss-women will do?

--John
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: Lip synching and stuff
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:12:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.101139.846@news.unomaha.edu> ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>A little question: What music causes you to lip-synch shamelessly when
>noone else is around (or even in public)?

1. Southern Can Woman - Blind Willie McTell
2. No More War - Prince Fari
3. anything at all by Bob Marley
4. Futter Mein Ego - Einsturzende Neubauten
5. Throne of Agony - Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel
6. Ring My Bell - Anita Baker


The list actually goes on and on, but this is the starter list...


Oh, and I sing along in public as well...




FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: outing the stars
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:01:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.151443.17283@tc.cornell.edu> shore@tc.cornell.edu writes:

>Anyway, Unix is a dandy way to meet women.

The Unix themselves might not agree, though.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael Thomas)
Subject: Re: D.C.con?
Reply-To: mike@gordian.com (Michael Thomas)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:28:05 GMT

In article <ku9q3pINNlbj@mizar.usc.edu>, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
|> Have you read the Portland proposal?  I'm desperately trying
|> to figure out how to pack an ice axe in a suitcase stuffed to
|> overflowing with chenille.  

   Gad, I hadn't realized that .con's were so violent. Do you need a
concealed weapon permit to carry that axe under your chenille?

-- 


		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
		USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca,	92707-5637
		PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
From: jkusters@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (The Chrome Jester)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay Supremecy
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:28:17 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

00darentfrow@bsu-ucs.uucp divulges:
->The question of the day is...
->Do you believe that Gay Supremecy exsists?

Gads I hope not!  I don't believe queers are inherently "better" than
the rest of society.  I believe we're all pretty equal, just some of
us are less open-minded than others.

->What if we switched it?  "Gay Supremecy is no worse than Homophobia."
->Does this drastically change the quote?

How about if we come up with a drastically different quote instead.  I
don't know about you, but I'm not looking for special or superior
rights.  I just want the same rights as my neighbors.  By using the
phrase "Gay Supremecy", we would foster the (IMHO incorrect) image
that gays want special rights.

JOhn.
-- 
/-John A Kusters, jr.----------------------------------------------------______
| jkusters@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu & phule@bbs.fubarsys.com              \    /
Silence keeps us all in darkness, we can't change things overnight!       \  /
But we can shed a little light, Be Political not Polite! -Romanovksy & Phillips
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Lip synching and stuff
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:18:07 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <1992Apr13.164300.1379@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@PacBell.COM writes:

> all of Bette Midler's "Live At Last" (I'm dating myself :-))
> all of Carole King's "Tapestry" (while I'm at it :-))
> all of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" (I'd better stop now...)

...and you *don't* date yourself with...

> "Stairway To Heaven", Led Zeppelin

?

Hmm, I could date myself with... uh...

Madonna's first album? "The Innocents", Erasure? The Sweet Pickles
album? Ooh, maybe the soundtrack to the Muppet Movie (I was damn good
at that one!).

---
John Dorrance				** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **
ACM022@zeus.unomaha.edu
	You bring me to my knees while I'm scratching at the eyes
	Of a world I want to conquer and deliver and despise.

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Subject: Re: Seasoned Motssers (was Re: Responding to Bigots)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 03:22:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr10.134019.25256@osf.org> coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>In article <rvsj95+.onr@netcom.com>, onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
>If you like your garlic and your chocolate in the same dish, I don't
>know what to say.

Obviously no Scorpio!
hint: garlic is mars , chocolate is venus.

>Bear in mind that what you "taste" like doesn't necessarily have
>anything to do with your persional tastes in food.

yeah , i got it, I may be old , but I'm not stupid :-)

>> Don't forget
>> Robert Coren 	Rocky Mountain Oysters to match is wit, ....
>> 		and grits :-)
>
>Hmm... not being sure how to take this, I will assume that it is
>intended as a compliment.
>	Robert

Then it's a classic owen post :-)
Yeah, never read my stuff with angry tones, assume laughter at all times.
If you ever meet me you'll understand :-)
When I'm pissed off its hard to miss.

LUX .. owen

-- 
D. Owen Rowley .. Note this acct is not my primary USENET access
mail gets to me quicker if you send it to owen@autodesk.com

*No matter where you go, there you are.*
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:05:55 -0400 
From: Daniel Ryan Bidwa <db4s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Lip synching and stuff

ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>A little question: What music causes you to lip-synch shamelessly when
>noone else is around (or even in public)?

Oh my. Spontaneous singalongs are the bane of working with an open office
door, especially when I'm listening to something less, um, generally
acceptable like Pussy Galore or Scratch Acid. If I'm concentrating on
something, I'll often suddenly notice that I'm singing along, often getting
strange looks from the secretaries. (Can't shut the door -- the air
circulation is poor, and the office immediately becomes infernally stuffy.)

Worse is when the headphones are off and the mental radio is on. Songs flit
out of nowhere and stick in my head for hours on end, seguing back and forth
(right now it's a battle between The Ex's "State of Shock", Sludgehammer's
"Shmuel", Astor Piazzolla (first track on "Tango Zero Hour"), and Scratch
Acid's "Ain't That Love" (having reminded myself of it while typing this)).
Pleasant for a while, but annoying when the mental groove skips, replaying the
same segment over and over and over.

I'm waiting for the walk home, when I can sing along (and make all the other
pedestrians wonder).

Dan
BTW, the Ex are on tour with Tom Cora right now. If they happen to be coming
to your area, go see them -- it was one of the absolute best shows I've ever
seen.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Turing and "The Machine that changed the world"
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:38:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Apr9.033817.7290
Distribution: na
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

If it's not obvious, I have no problem with a stuttering Turing, but I
do have a problem with a stuttering Turing who stutters in exactly the
same way Claudius did.

Perhaps Jacobi forgets how his portrayal of Claudius runs
and reruns over and over and over again on PBS, but it's a
very familiar role with a very exposed device.  I would have
thought that it's possible for him to stutter in a slightly
different manner than that asthmatic, explosive manner so
peculiar to Claudius.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: outing the stars
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:07:58 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) writes:

> Well, *I* lost interest in astronomy when I learned that the only way to
> remember the Main Sequence was `Oh, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me Right Now'.
> Not being a lesbian, I became a computer scientist.

You should have insisted on the alternate version:

"Oh Be A Fun Guy, Kiss My Right Nipple."



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: outing the stars
Date: 13 Apr 1992 19:11:14 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Apr14.002734.4587@reed.edu> 
nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
| In article <1992Apr13.234442.18388@wam.umd.edu> 
| jns@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) in an explosion of faux 
| butchness wrote:
...
| >Oh, and Minor [sic], where the hell do you get off saying
| >  "Homosexuals were invented for an episode of Barney Miller"?
| >That's so fucking offensive!  Just eat shit and die, scum!

To which Nelson "Ladislav" Minar responded:

| I'm offended not ONLY that you didn't spell my name correctly, but
| that you neglected to infer the original Czech spelling, thereby
| denying my European heritage. From henceforth I demand that if you
| refer to me by my family name, you use it properly - "Mlinar". Yes,
| it's pronounced /Mine er/, but it has an "l" in it.

I must rush to Jeffie's defense.  Jeffie had no doubt recently seen
Nels-, er, Ladislav's gif and was thinking "chicken", if not "jailbait",
and "Minar" accidentally become "Minor".

But two can play at this game, Mlinar.  From henceforth I demand that
if you refer to me by name, you pronounce it in the correct, Norwegian
way.  Yes, that includes the rising and falling tones.  And forget
the Americanized spelling of my last name -- it should be "Adolfsen",
as it was until 45 years ago.  Bonus points if you pronounce my middle
name (Ole) correctly.

Arne
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Queer Humor
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:57:30 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com

michael@xon.co.uk (Michael J Marshall):
> So, anybody else have some good ones?

mine were originally told as blond or sorority girl jokes, but i think
they're funnier with gay men.  ummm, these are not for the light of
heart:

Q: What's the first thing a fag does in the morning?
A: Introduces himself and drives home.

Q: What's a fag put around his neck to make him more attractive?
A: His ankles.
-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein and sexism (Was Asimov and sexism)
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:57:08 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Mike Batchelor writes:
>BTW, Issac Asimov died this morning.

A happening worthy of more than a mere footnote, methinks.

R.I.P., Isaac.  You will be missed.

() It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans
() to know no science, even though they may be well educated
() otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense.
()
() They thus become part of the armies of the night, the
() purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual
() junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their
() ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from
() sewage.
()      -- Isaac Asimov, The Armies of the Night
-----
[George D. Madison, a/k/a Furr | 8-{)##] | NBCS:B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv PIG 8/7]
[> furr@cup.portal.com <#> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <]
From: tdober@llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:20:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: LLNL

In article <29E32C05.10186@ics.uci.edu>, tittle@ics.uci.edu
(Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
> 
> (Not that I'm saying brains and reproduction can't go hand in hand.
> But it's tiresome haveing SO MANY stories conclude that that's what
> little girls are for, despite any other talent.)
> 
> --Cindy

This seems to be one of Heinlein's major themes. He did it in
_Friday_ -- here was this tremendously intelligent, capable, beautiful,
talented woman, and she *only* begins to feel fulfilled after she
becomes a mother. The mother in _The Rolling Stones_ is sort of the
same -- she gives up a career as a doctor to become a mother. (Actually,
I was a bit impressed with the fact that she had enough spine to stand
up to her husband and *use* her medical training, Heinlein women not
generally having "spine" as one of their long suits.) And what was the
first thing good ol' Johann Sebastian Bach Smith did after his brain
was transplanted into a woman's body? Yep, (s)he went out and got
pregnant.

I could go on, but why bother? Anyone who's read much Heinlein can
undoubtedly come up with numerous examples at the drop of a hat, there
being so many to choose from. :-(

TDO
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Too Sexy for My Love?
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:45:51 GMT
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: glp@merlin


In article <1992Apr3.230834.15800@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr2.152625.28557@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> >I am uncomfortable around people who are more attractive than I am.
|> 
|> Gad, and here I'm still congratulating myself that I hit it off _so
|> well_ with Greg "Mr. Looks/Brains/Beauty" Parkinson.  I thought it was
|> my wit.  :-|

My comment above may seem to make the definition that
anyone I am comfortable around I feel I less attractive
than I am - not my point at all.  I have always had a 
problem with people who I think have more of some quality
<x> than I do, when I feel that I don't have enough <x>.
Wit, looks, ability to tan, styleable hair, knowledge of
"cultural" things, heterosexuality have all been on the
list at one time or another.  I remember the first time
I got a mail message from Steve.  A NET PERSONALITY! 
Sending mail to me!  Eeeek!  Fortunately, I got over it.

There is a group of men that I see out in the bars that
I go to in NYC.  The criteria to be one of them seems to
be that you be HOT and HANDSOME and HUNKY.  I know one
of them from college in California (he put himself thru
college as an "escort") and so I've spoken with them once
or twice.  Last Xmas I was in California and I ran into
one of this group at a party, and we ended up spending
a few days together in Palm Springs.  What amazed me
was that this man was attracted to *me*, and when I said
that he just laughed.  He promised to introduce me to his
friends when we got back - I could be part of that group
if I wanted to.  So I met them.  I hung out with them.
I was hit on by the one that the rest consider to be the
most attractive.  And I got bored.  They weren't silly 
or funny or insightful or interesting.  They traded in
looks and being admired, and after all these years of
wanting to belong to that crowd I walked away from it.

What I'm learning is that I shouldn't worry about being
<x> enough - because I am, by definition, <Greg> enough. 
And that's something I can be happy about and satisfied
with.

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: betsyp@apollo.hp.com (Betsy Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein and sexism (Was Asimov and sexism)
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:57:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Apr4.180210.28424@cs.ubc.ca> manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) writes:
>Well, Samuel Delaney was one of the three GLB SF writers I was thinking
>of. One of the others is very frequently discussed here; the third is
>(literally) a household name. 

Nobody has yet mentioned the fine fantasy writer Ellen Kushner,
whose first novel, *Swordspoint*, subtitled "A Tragedy of Manners",
focuses on a pair of male lovers, one of whom is a professional duellist.
Seek it out.  She also does a great radio series for PBS called
"The Nakamichi International Concerts", if I remember the title correctly;
for the last couple of weeks, she's been doing highlights of the Utrecht
Early Music festival.
                                  
(She is not only a fine writer, but a writer of fine fantasies, for
the disambiguators among us.)
-- 
Betsy Hanes Perry   (note P in userid)     betsyp@apollo.hp.com
Cooperative Object Computing Division,     Hewlett-Packard, Inc.
We're readers, readers, readers of the Open Range...
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: movie review
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:46:34 GMT

pmele@ldgo.columbia.edu (phil mele) writes:

>> 
>yes, but how did edward and his lover "act"?  the revue in the paper, which
>said pretty much the same as you, went on to point out how the gay characters
>were somewhat 'swishy' .....

I didn`t think they were swishy.  Neither characters were terribly likeable.
Edward was kind of weak in standing up to his  court.  And his lover was
a bit of a prat.  If anything IMHO that made the message stronger.  We just
need to be portrayed as "real" people rather than stereotypes.

Iseult.
From: max@athena.mit.edu (Max Meredith Vasilatos)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The GLBO-Centered Film List
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:53:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr9.085307.18945
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I'm the world's biggest movie ignoramus, but John Waters
once made a movie in which a woman killed her husband and
then, rather than facing the legal music back home, ran
away with her housekeeper to a fantastical land of 
criminals called Mortville.  Highlights included one
woman deciding her lover would prefer her as a man, so
she forced a doctor at gunpoint to give her a phalloplasty.
On arriving home to "Oh but I loved you as a woman" she
cut the new penis off with a pair of scissors.  Later
the original killer, who's turned into an evil tyrant,
is shot with a gun up her ass.  The flick had a lot of blood.
Possibly also an army of big Nazi leather swishy queens.

I don't remember the name of it, and I may be misremembering.
Is it on the list?  Did I dream it?

Max
max@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss