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From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: IPS:USA:Cuban Missile Crisis & Braz
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:58:41 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Dice Oreste Piro

>>[...]
>>Wonder why the OAS did not suspend the US after their overt military
>>support to England during the Malvinas (Falkland) War.

>Because the Malvinas (Falkland) Islands are not in America (Edelmiro
>Salas, Obras completas, 1992) Not even sure that Argentina is in America, 
>because the (ex USA flag) Belgrano cruise was sunk in territorial waters of 
>that country way far from the war theater.

Oreste,

When two countries are at WAR there is no need to obey territorial rights. 
?Did you expect that allied troops in WWII were going to stay put in the Rhine 
just because they did not want to violate the territorial sovereignty of 
Germany?  Likewise, ?did you expect the British were to stay put after the 
Sheffield incident, where a Peruvian-supplied excocet missle was fired by 
Argentinian planes flying over BRITISH territorial waters in the Falklands?  

The Belgrano was a battleship that was endangering the British fleet in the 
vicinity of the islands and was clearly a hostile ship.  Fortunately, it was 
detected by our (i.e., U.S.) satelites in the vicinity of the Falklands.  Our 
information was passed on to the British so that the appropriate measures would 
be taken, and a submarine did the rest of the job.  As far as I'm concerened 
the Argentinians were fortunate that the British act in a civilized manner for 
the action reccomended by the Royal Air Force were surgical strikes against 
land bases in Argentina.  Of course there was no need for such punitive strikes 
and only hostile ships in the vicininty of the invaded islands were considered 
as targets.

Gotcha!

Edelmiro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: jms@netcom.com (John Schonholtz)
Subject: Re: Networks in Latin America
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:00:35 GMT

In article <lfled5INNhhf@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> aldo@ips-server.Eng.Sun.COM (Aldo Castillo) writes:
>Hola, encontre esta informacion en la lista de Peru, y creo que
>podria ser util a otros lectores de este newsgroup:
[...]

>CENTRAL AMERICA
>                 listserv@ubvm.bitnet (request)
>                 centam-l@ubvm.bitnet

Estas direcciones son viejas, y no funcionan ahora.  Las direcciones actuales 
son listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu y centam-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu.
-- 
John Schonholtz						jms@netcom.com
A fool and his money are soon elected.
From: jsteinme@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA (Jorge Steinmetz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Como salir de la crisis...
Keywords: militares...
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:00:50 GMT
Followup-To: Como salir de la crisis...
Organization: NCR Canada Ltd. Mississauga, Ontario


   En su articulo, Luis Gutierrez Aladro escribe...

   Me urgen comentarios de gente latinoamericana sobre como consideran ustedes
   que se puede salir de la crisis tercermundista que vive *vivimos* en
   latinoamerica.

  Agradecere sus respuestas a :   lg248399@hp9k.lag.itesm.mx

  ******************** M I    C O M E N T A R I O ***************************

  Estimado amigo Luis:

    Mi unico comentario es que la mejor solucion a estos problemas que Ud.
menciona, es colocar un gran candado en la puerta de todas las escuelas   
Militares de Sud-America y luego tirar las llaves al mar, ya que el rubro
mas abultado de los presupuestos nacionales es para mantener contentos a un
grupo de inutiles que juegan a soldados, y encima de ello, a veces deciden
que estan aburridos y juegan a politicos, causando los mayores desastres en
la vida de la gente.

    No es de extran~ar que tantos Argentinos, que estamos orgullosos de serlo
vivamos en el exterior para tener paz, tranquilidad, estabilidad y progreso.

    Un gran abrazo y saludos para la Madre Patria.
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: 1980 P.R. elections
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:41:21 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Mario Alejandro Hidalgo says in <AezfEXe00Uh7M4FI5U@andrew.cmu.edu>:

>2.  The official election results were not known for over 9 months (Yes,
>9 months) after the election day.

What do you expect, with a 3,000 vote victory?  If the elections comissions 
deems the results as valid the oposing governor (today a lame duck) would call 
his lynch mobs and ask them to "hit the trenches" to "defend" the vote a la 
Mexico.  So, everybody had to wait patiently until the comision counted every 
one of the 1,600,000 votes one by one.

>3.  It is well known in Puerto Rico that many votes were trashed during
>that 9-month period.

Perhaps it is well known by the opposition party but not by the impartial 
Electoral Comission which has the cleanest electoral record in all Latin 
America.

>4.  After 9 months of waiting, the results given out were suspiciously
>close to one another.

This simply confirms that the recount works.

>   Also, Romero is thought to be behind a major government cover-up in
>the killing by police of two independentist supporters late in the
>1970's while he was in his first term as governor.  (Ever see the movie
>"A Show of Force"?).

Yeah, I saw, It remineded me of Star Wars and Alien, a little bit more of 
reality and Puerto Rico would be en par with Haiti according to this film.  
There has never been a scintilla of evidence that the now Congressman elect was 
involved in the police coverup in this case.  The oposition party held new 
hearings trying to frame the ex-governor and make him loose the elections, but 
things went so wrong that they ended tranforming him into a popular hero and 
sending him to Washington as our Congressman.

>Anyone who knows anything about P.R. politics knows that Carlos Romero
>Barcelo is not a trustworthy person.  In the recent elections, he only
>won by 18000 votes, compared to the big margin for governor.  Many of
>the PNP supporters know that Romero cannot be trusted, so they voted for
>Antonio Colorado for Resident Commissioner.  That's why the margin was
>so slim.  Also, look for some differences of opinion between
>governor-elect Rossello and Romero, because many
>differences between them surfaced during the campaign.

No, the margin was "slim" (??? for me "slim" is to win by 1 vote not by 
18,000) because the opposition party portrayed Romero as a monster and 936 
corporations fear Romero will end tax susbsidies on their profits.  Thats why 
it was "slim". The important thing is that the majority of the people voted and 
he won, therefore he represents all island residente in Washington.

Edelmiro
From: sangu@igc.apc.org (David Sangurima)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: IPS:Ecuador: US warns of
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:41:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1473800368:000:2643
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!sangu    Nov  4 22:41:00 1992


From: David Sangurima <sangu>
Subject: IPS:Ecuador: US warns of

/* Written  8:57 am  Oct 31, 1992 by hrcoord@igc.apc.org in igc:reg.andes */
/* ---------- "IPS:Ecuador: US warns of" ---------- */
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: IPS:Ecuador: US warns of

/* Written 12:14 am  Oct 31, 1992 by newsdesk@igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: ECUADOR: U.S. WARNS OF ECONOMIC RETALIATION PROSPECT


quito, oct 28 (ips) -- washington warned wednesday that if ecuador
did not pay an adequate price for the expropriation of the u.s.
electricity generation company 'emelec', the south american
country would not gain access to the u.s. trade preferences
system for andean region nations.

the warning came from myles frechette, assistant trade
representative for latin america, africa and the caribbean of the
u.s. department of trade.

he told a group of ecuadorean businessmen, ''the only
obstacle'' preventing ecuador from obtaining access to u.s. trade
benefits was the case of 'emelec'.

the company supplies electricity to the guayaquil port area.
in may, an arbitration commission determined that its
installations are worth 43.8 million dollars.

the government of president rodrigo borja (1988-92), which
had began the process of buying 'emelec', said the price was too
high.

but in august, borja was replaced by conservative president
sixto duran-ballen, who said 'emelec' would be bought for a
''just'' price. he did not say what price.

the u.s. trade preferences legislation for the andean region
opens the possibility for 90 percent of ecuadorean products to
enter the united states duty-free.

said frechette, ''bolivia and colombia have already joined
the andean trade preferences system of the united states. the
cases of ecuador and peru are still under study.''

on tuesday, a venezuelan banker said in quito that a group
of venezuelan, ecuadorean and spanish businessmen were about to
buy 'emelec' at a price close to that fixed by the arbitration
commission, but there was no confirmation of this.

former officials of the borja administration have claimed
that 'emelec' owed 80 million dollars to the ecuadorean government
for the purchase of fuel oil and electric energy. (more/ips)


ecuador: u.s. (2)

''if the government wants to pay 'emelec' the price fixed
by the arbitration commission, let it do so, but it should take
responsibility for its actions because the people will demand
an accounting,'' said borja. (ends/ips/tr/sp/ie/np/dc/cs/it)
From: bp523@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jimmy Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: testAment
Date: 9 Nov 1992 21:50:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Now I'll know who is right, the World or I!




Reply-To: bp523@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jimmy Gonzalez)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)

-- 
Jimmy Gonzalez
bp523@hela.INS.CWRU.Edu
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, Ohio
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 16:57:22 -0500 
From: Mario Alejandro Hidalgo <mh6i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Statehood for P.R.?

Miguel Salas writes:

I will like read some comments on weather PR should become a State.

Somethings to keep in mind if PR does becomes a State:
--Taxes
--Will PR lose some of their culture and traditions? Like cock fighting,
"castellano" their languange.
--Schools; will the school be all in English?
--etc... .

Please comment.
--------------------------------------------------------

I am from Puerto Rico, and I was very dissapointed to learn that the
Partido Nuevo Progresista won the elections by a big margin.  The only
position of which I am not sure who won was the Resident Commissioner,
because I thought that the PNP, Carlos Romero Barcelo, had won.  But on
yesterday's USA Today it says that Antonio Colorado, the current
Resident Commissioner had won.  If anyone knows who really won, please
post the results on this bboard.  On the other hand, I must say that
Carlos Romero Barcelo is one of the most hated political-related persons
in Puerto Rico. While being Governor from 1976-1980, he cheated in the
1980 elections and was re-elected. My personal opinion is that he only
ran for the position because he wants to retire from politics only after
getting credit for giving statehood to PR, which I dissaprove.  
Here are my personal opinions about giving statehood to PR:

1.  Taxes.  I would not like to pay tax.  I hate carrying pennies in my wallet.

2.  Language.  The Spanish-Only law was signed just a couple of years
ago in PR, so it would be very difficult for the US to impose English as
the first language.  PR has Spanish roots and culture which will never
be broken regardless of its political status.

3.  It is very unlikely that school will be in English because of point #2.

4.  The last time they talked about a plebiscite in PR, nothing
happened, so for PR to be a state: 1. A plebiscite must be arranged.  2.
 More than half of the population must vote for statehood, which is
unlikely.  Even though the PNP won, still a big majority of the
population supports the current status and also the independent status.
From: dgt@phy.duke.edu (Dinko Eduardo Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: El modelo chileno
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:28:28 GMT
Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Felipe Valenzuela escribe:

>etc, etc). Y esto no es el caso de Chile donde el numero de pobres es mayor que
>en el periodo de Allende (hay mas pobres que viviendo bien en Chile). Donde las

Esta afirmacion no es verdadera.  Durante el periodo de Allende la falta de 
bienes era evidente, la infalcion fuera de control.  Mucha gente tenia mas 
dinero, pero este no valia nada ya que no habia nada que comprar (no esta
el poder adquisitivo ligado al nivel de pobreza?).  Hay personas que tratan
de poner a Allende y su gobierno en un pedestal, pero la verdad es que Allende
no fue mas que un gobernante incompetente, iluso y debil de caracter.
  
>pero esto es una conversacion entre hombres y mujeres que ponemos a la vida y la
>naturaleza antes del fin de lucro. Una conversacion entre seres que creemos que
>el planeta tiene aun una esperanza y que el sistema de pillage actual terminara y
>no con aquellos que ven apenas un metro delante de ellos.

Si claro, por supuesto, y los ex paises socialistas tenian un record ambiental
perfecto.  Quizas deberiamos analizar los desastres ecologicos en el lago Baikal
, en el mar de Aral (que esta casi seco) en la ex URSS.  Los basurales de 
productos toxicos en la ex Alemania del Este, y finalmente en Cuba misma, las
enormes extensiones de bosques destruidas para la siembra de ca~na de azucar 
(que promueve la erosion del suelo y lo hace esteril).
Yo no desmiento el hecho que muchos paises abusen sus recursos naturales, pero
los ex paises socialistas son un pobrisimo ejemplo de responsabilidad ecologica.
Hay que aceptar que el modelo de economia central esta muerto, y no va a 
resucitar hoy ni ma~nana, y ojala nunca.  La politica economica del regimen
de Pinochet promovio un crecimiento economico superior, pero descuido la distri-
bucion de recursos a los mas pobres en Chile.  Esta situacion esta siendo 
corregida, pero los resultados no se veran de la noche a la ma~nana.  La 
politica macroeconomica Chilena es dinamica y productiva, el gobierno tiene
la mision  de procurar que este motor economico sirva a todos los Chilenos, pero
lo que Felipe sugiere es apagar este motor.  



-- 
Dinko Gonzalez Trotter
dgt@phy.duke.edu
From: HOFANTJ@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: LLamado a los colombianos en el mundo!
Date: 11 Nov 92 07:37:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: YaleVM.1689C24D9.HOFANTJ
Organization: Yale University

Mis Queridos Compatriotas: Esta es la primera vez que me doy cuenta de la canti
dad de colombianos y conecciones colombianas que puedo encontrar en este board.
 Me gustaria establecer comunicacion con algunos de usteds para poder charlar,
recordar, y hasta de pronto tomarnos un aguardientico a larga distancia!!!  Por
 favor, escribanme a mi direccion:
 
                  HOFANTJ@YALEVM.EDU
 
Estoy muy contento de haber encontrado esta linea y espero wue ustedes me respo
ndan!!! GRACIAS!!!!!!!!!
 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: ivan@ph.albany.edu (Ivan Auger)
Subject: Re: The Chilean Model
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date:  7 Nov 92 06:13:07 GMT

Esta discusion sobre el "modelo chileno" por pater de Edelmiro
(ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu) es ridicula. Es claro que no tiene
idea de lo que sucedio en Chile, y que nunca ha conversado con
ninguno de los participantes.  Creo que la experiencia personal de
Edelmiro lo ciega...

Comparar a Allende con Castro es absurdo.  Si Allende hubiera sido
como Castro, no hubiera tolerado al MIR ni a el ala ultra izquierdista
del Partido Socialista.  El golpe tampoco hubiera sucedido - entre
parentesis, Pinochet era muy amigo de J. Toha, ministro de Allende
quien murio preso.

El hecho que el golpe fue posible, asi como todo las huelgas para
destabilizar a Chile durante el 72-73 (financiadas en parte for
"USA"), y de que uno podia decir y hacer lo que se le antojara sin
desaparecer como en tiempos de Pinochet implica que en Chile no habia
represion como la de Castro o Pinocho.  (actualmente, no tengo ningun
amigo de derecha que haya sido torturado por Allende, muchos amigos de
izquierda fueron torturados, desaparecidos, etc...).

Espero que los chilenos hemos aprendido de nuestros errores (bajo ambos
regimenes - Allende y Pinocho).

Acabo de volver de Chile donde no he estado en 7 anos.  Me impresiono
que los barrios de gente de medios tienen guardias privados con perros
pastor aleman.  Nunca he visto algo semejante aca....
Afortunadamente, tengo los medios para ir a un hospital privado por
una emergencia (la cual tuve), ya que esta claro que los medicos de la
posta central se quieren "hechar el pollo" debido a las condiciones de
trabajo y salarios. Ademas, en los hospitales publicos, uno tiene que
llevar sus propios remdios ya que el hospital no tiene los
medicamentos necesarios - es esto progreso ?

Ivan Auger
ivan@stat.ph.albany.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: Las Falklands
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:51:41 GMT

In article <19209@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>
>Perdona por lo de la mejicanizaxion de Cuba, pero tu sabes que por ahi
>andan reclamando territorio fundamentansoe en doumentos de hace 5 siglo y
>no pude resistir.
>
>Edelmiro

Y eso de basarse en documentos de hace 500 a~os no es nada. Fijate que hay
gente que llora los indios que murieron hace como 500 a~os!!!!
Es mas, hay gente que depues de 500 a~os usa palabras como:
                      Mejicanizaxion

Parece que van a hacer falta otros 500 a~os para civilizar a ciertas tribus...

AAP
From: salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Statehood for Puerto Rico?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:28:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.Bx9IB3.F78
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC

I will like read some comments on weather PR should become a State.

Somethings to keep in mind if PR does becomes a State:
--Taxes
--Will PR lose some of their culture and traditions? Like cock fighting,
"castellano" their languange.
--Schools; will the school be all in English?
--etc... .

Please comment.
From: David Sangurima <sangu@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:59 PST
Subject: Re: Los disparates de Edelmiro
Nf-ID: #R:1dklv1INNkps@phakt.usc.edu:171897524:cdp:1473800379:000:719
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!sangu    Nov 11 20:59:00 1992



H. Salgado,

Yo tambien no puedo creer las barbaries :-o. El caso de Guatemala es una
de las intervenciones mas tragicas por parte de los EEUU (vease "Shattered
Hope" , P. Gleijeses). Las otras inumerables incursiones en Nuestra America
son rigurosamente documentadas en libros recientes como "Deterring
Democracy", Noam Chomsky.

Pero quiza lo mas tragico de todo es que el proceso electoral en este
pais limita un debate serio (eg. un solo representante independiente,
Bernie Sanders, Vermont, en todo el Congreso!) y casi asegura que
predomine la mentalidad "Salas" en Washington.

Sugiero que Edelmiro modere su propio newsgroup, digamos...
misc.barbaries.edelmiro y que de vez en cuando envie algo pa'ca. ;-)

DS
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Statehood for Puerto Rico?
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:01:58 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Miguel Salas asks:

"n the 1940's, did
Hawaii had their own language or Did English already dominated the native
tongue?"

I don't think Hawaii had a minority language dominating English when
statehood was accepted.  BUT New Mexico did.

Edelmiro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: IPS:USA:Cuban Missile Crisis & Braz
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:14:32 GMT

In article <19036@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Dice Oreste Piro
>
>>>[...]
>>>Wonder why the OAS did not suspend the US after their overt military
>>>support to England during the Malvinas (Falkland) War.
>
>>Because the Malvinas (Falkland) Islands are not in America (Edelmiro
>>Salas, Obras completas, 1992) Not even sure that Argentina is in America, 
>>because the (ex USA flag) Belgrano cruise was sunk in territorial waters of 
>>that country way far from the war theater.
>
>Oreste,
>

{algunos comentarios erroneos de Edelmiro Salas, borrados)

>
>Edelmiro

Salas:
Una vez mas tus comentarios son erroneos.
Por que no  te informas antes de decir tantas pavadas?

AAP

Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: pampa@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ruben.a.mazzulla)
Subject: Re: The Chilean Model (*** edelmy NO es ficticio! ***)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:28:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.222619.21831@wam.umd.edu>, aap@next03wor.wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:
> In article <19056@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@othello.ucdavis.edu  
> writes:
				.
				.
			(texto borrado)
				.
				.
				
> Yo sospeche hace ya mucho tiempo, mas exactamente, cuando Salas dije que
> "Crimen y castigo" era una novela de Fucault, que el era una personaje  
> ficticio. 
				.
				.
			(texto borrado)
				.
				.
> 
> Alberto Pinkas.

---------------------------------------------------

alberto muerto de envidia,

mr. salas un personaje inventado?, perdoname pero estoy TOTALMENTE en 
desacuerdo con vos; nadies podria inventar el prototipo de un retardado
mental con 100% de presicion, que siempre desempen~e su papel con tanta 
consistencia y sin defectos.  si fuera ficticio al menos UNA VEZ tendria 
que haber fallado, pero este sigue repitiendo las mismas idioteces vuelta 
tras vuelta.  no puede ser ficticio!

lamento haberte muerto la ultima esperanza que te quedaba; este edelmiro 
es un boludo 100% real, tratalo como tal.


ruben
From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Puerto Rico
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:08:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1df4uvINN54b
Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jcamacho@aludra.usc.edu (Jose Camacho) says:
>
>Vaya por delante que si los puertoriquenhos quieren ser estado de los Estados
>Unidos, es cosa de ellos. 

Como sospeche', el "post" de Edelmiro dio la impresion errornea: Los
PRriquen~os nunca han escogido entre la estadidad o el "status quo"
oficialmewnte, que es lo unico que cuenta. El partido "estadista" ha
ganado tantas veces que he perdidio cuenta. 

Pronto espero que Edelmiro aclare que la victoria del partido Nuevo
Progresista en PR fue *solo* un rechazo a la actual administracio'n,
como pasa a menudo en PR.

>Ahora, me pregunto yo, que pasaria si los Estados
>Unidos dejaran de subvencionar a la isla de la manera que lo hacen? Acaso el
>paraiso que nos describe Edelmiro seria el mismo, o mas bien se pareceria
>mas al nivel de vida de los vecinos?
>

"Paraiso"?! Por que' entonces e'l tanto como yo y el resto de los
profesionales PRs (que no tienen miedo de irse del lado de papa' y
mama') esta'n por aca', a veces en "inner cities" donde ya Uds saben no
se vive muy bien?! Edelmiro dice que le gustari'a ser del "staff" de un
periodico en SF, CA (y yo espero que lo sea!). Asi que paraiso *NADA*.

El hecho que centro_america y sud_america esten peor es problema de
*ellos*.

No existe tal cosa como "Latino_America Unida". El que dos o tres
nacionalistas se lo repitan a menudo mientras beben cervezas alemanas "no
vale". El resto estan tratando de "colarse" a los EE.UU a donde los PRs
*ya* pertenecemos.

>Jose Camacho
>

Tony Alicea