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From: jamesz@pro-friends.cts.com (James Zajkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Various System 6.0 wierdness...
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:16:46 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr12.013635.27302@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>2) some icons for p8 programs (NTGS in this case) won't run off the desktop,
>meaning you double-click on a MOD and it responds with "This file must reside
>on a ProDOS volume" (which it does).

Simple answer (I hope):

The finder is using the GS/OS pathname character, the colon ( ":" ).

Prodos 8 really HATES the colon.  It prefers the slash ("/").

The colon originally started on the mac, so NT is saying that the file is
"not on a prodos volume"...  there is really no way to fix this, so pretty
much forget about launching MODs through the finder.  Maybe someone will come
along with a finder extra to change the messagecenter's open request to
old-style, slash seperated pathnames.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mark@trillian.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: how to copywrite software
Organization: Simulacron I
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:45:29 GMT

Folks, I hate to tell you this, but the sealed envelope does not stand
up in court in some states.  In Texas (where I am living presently) there
was a case just like this which came up in court.  The court ruled that
simply sending yourself a sealed envelope doesn't constitute copyright
of an idea.  If you want to _legally_ say you had such-and-such an idea
by a certain day - then get it notarized.  Your bank will do this
for FREE.  Usually, where you work will do this for FREE.  It is THE
cheapest way to say "I had this idea on XX/XX/XX and this other person
(the person with the stamp) has seen that I've had this idea and the idea
is MINE!"  Don't mess yourself up!  There is absolutely no reason for
you to mess yourself up after working months or years on some idea you've
had.

In the immortal words of Word Finder(r):

To Notarize also means to:

   prove, confirm, attest, authenticate, certify, corroborate, ratify,
   sanction, substantiate, support, validate, verify, vouch, witness,
   justify

Let me also state that JUST putting a "c" in a circle ALSO does not mean
anything.  You have to have the paperwork to back up that little circle.
You can put TM, R, or (C) all you want - but if you haven't registered
the work, then it doesn't mean a thing.  Ask Bardio.  They were one of
the largest, world wide paint distributors in America.  Their paints
were the best - until Amerco(or is it Ameron?) found out that the
TM on their paints were not backed up by the proper paperwork.  Now
Bardio has to buy the rights to produce their own products!

Please, please!  Don't mess yourself around with half-hearted
attempts to do the actual thing.  It is both crazy and stupid to,
after everything else has been done, throw everything away by refusing
to get your idea notarized and/or copyrighted properly.  Especially
since both things are so cheap.

So don't set yourself up to fail and don't fail to set yourself up - to win.


(Gack!  I sound like one of those public service messages!  :-) )
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sounds and Sys 6
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:10:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <0uq1iB4w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>[...]
>Hmm, ok. There were two comment resources in it, though (snooping around 
>with an editor); the second one gave a more sane appraisal like "Drag 
>EasyMount into your blahblah" or something. I thought perhaps that was meant 
>to show up from the finder, and the other was for snoopy individuals like, 
>er, me.

Oh, *that* rComment!  rComment(2)!

The rComment(1) resource shows up in the Comment card, but the rComment(2)
resource shows up when you double-click on the icon but nobody wants to
open it (there's no mapping to an available application & no Finder
Extension responds to the finderSaysBeforeOpen or finderSaysOpenFailed
requests).

A big alert appears with the contents of the rComment(2) and a Continue
button.  The text is supposed to tell you how to do something useful
with the file you tried to open (like drag it to System.Setup and
reboot).
-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: ir2
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:32:49 GMT

In article <20f.02NAc5Yo00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.183325.4944@uwm.edu> greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis) writes:
>>Matt, everything unpacked OK, but when I try to reboot with IR in the
>>system.setup folder, I get a system setup error $1104. Has anyone else had
>>this problem, or did I somehow manage to corrupt the file?
>
>I was somewhat concerned about the file being packed from HFS disks, given
>the recent discussions we've been having about the problems with GSCii and
>GSHK when HFS is involved.  However, if it un-shrank without any errors, then
>you can assume that the file is okay.
>
>The $11xx errors are loader errors, which would suggest that the file is NOT
>okay.  Does it need to come first/last/after something in the system.setup
>directory?  What else do you have in there?

I re-installed it several times, just to make sure it wasn't me (it wsn't)
then I tried re-unpacking the SHK archive, and that was the magic number.
I guess something screwed up when it unpacked the 1st time... The first
time I unpacked the whole disk, the second time I only unpacked the
three files I wanted, and renamed them, and unpacked to ProDOS instead
of HFS.

Summary: It now works.
From: scraft@graphics.rent.com (Steve Craft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: "C"
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:26:52 GMT
Organization: The Graphics BBS (2D,3D,GIF,Animation) +1 908/469-0049

Does anyone know of any starter "C" books I can get through *mail order*? 
Don't say "Waldenbooks", etc. because my local stores don't have anything 
decent.

Does anyone remember the Frankin X-10hard drive?  It was an internal 
hard drive card for the Frankin 1000/1200/2200.  I may come accross one 
when I  go to the TCF April  11-12 and want to know how to make it 
ProDOS workable (bootable too).

Using the VMS OS, how do I get a file that I FTPed from my mailbox to my 
// here in front of me?

        Someone Said:

>Given you only had time or resources to develop a driver for _one_ of
>these printers, which one would a) be done quicker and b) be for a
>printer a IIgs owner has a reasonable chance of buying?

Given that with a little shopping, you can get an HP LaserJet IIP, a 
decent
parallel card, and Harmonie 2.0 for around $1000, WHY would you want a
Personal Laserwriter LS anyway?  Not only is the HP cheaper, but you 
stand a
better chance of making it work with just about any other machine you 
happen
to have sitting around.

What about the Panasonic KX-P1123 printer?  It's 24-pin (360x360dpi) and 
works with most everything too.  Now if I could only figgure out a way 
for it to use big fonts like the ImageWriter LQ does...

 The Graphics BBS  908/469-0049  "It's better than a sharp stick in the eye!" 
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From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Fortran on the GS
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:17:43 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

I had a copy of Apple // fortran lying around here someplace.... it was
designed for the //e..... on a pascal based disk.... pretty worthless
tho.... if any newer product was released, I am unaware of it....

/s
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From: johnp@pro-angmar.alfalfa.com (John Palaima)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple //e and GIFS
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:38:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-angmar]

Has anyone made a better Gif converter for the //e, that has more sizing
features and the use of halftone and dithered double high res conversions?
I like my Video 7 screen enhancer, and i like viewing SVGA black and white
and color, and i have seen programs that use those 2 modes on ANY //e,(DHR
dither and DHR halftone) and it looks great, and the more sizing is that i
cant get gifs of electrical schematics to look right, either the text is a
hair too big, or it is scrunched way too small.. and it is only off by a
few lines...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSOS system6 and DOS
From: rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:44:17 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

From: bp664@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Grover Thomas), Case Western Reserve
University
Date: 5 Apr 92 06:42:10 CST
 
>However, if you are speaking distincly about the disk part of the OS,
>that tends to be referred to as HFS (hihg-Performance File System).
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                      Pretty sure HFS stands for
                                      Heirarchical File System,
                                      and has nothing to do with IBM's;
                                      it's merely the name of the Mac
                                      file system.
>IBM OS/2 has its own HFS to replace the older DOS, although it will
>still be able to read (IBM) DOS disks.
-- 
Randy Shackelford
rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
From: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: synthLAB problem
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:43:20 GMT
	<1992Apr8.172610.39155@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston J. Park) writes:
> > System 6.0 is larger than 5.04. You are running a bare minimum system. 
> > A bare minimum system allows you run the finder. Get more memory.
> 
> Errr, yes, memory is quite helpful with System 6.  However, if you need to
> delay purchasing for one reason or another (like some of the rest of us poor
> college folks), you can use the boot Control Panel to set your startup
> to synthLAB, or whatever program you're having memory troubles with.  This 
> usually clears up those nasty "Memory is too fragmented" errors.

  Or you could always hit OA-Q, and select previous application, or
whatever the name is, so you get back to the launcher thingie, and run
SynthLAB from there...

		-Greg T.
		 InterNet: gregt+@cmu.edu
		       or: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu
		 BITNet  : R746GT0T@CMCCVB
		 AOL     : GRThompson
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Backup II
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:56:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: amdahl.0fT=02LBcd7a00
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr15.085729.12952@unlv.edu> sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>I see no practical reason why ShrinkIt couldn't do something similar.
>I might even be tempted to send money for a copy of ShrinkIt that
>could back up my HD to multiple floppies...especially since I've never
>made a working backup of my Apple's HD! :-) It'd certainly be better
>than Backup II, and could probably give other backup software a run
>for the money since ShrinkIt could, if you want, do compressed
>backups.  Andy Nicholas, are you reading this? :-)

In its present state, the NuFX format doesn't really support doing something
like this (unless you don't mind breaking up the archives on file boundaries,
which will lead to gross inefficiency when you hit something huge... and if
it's too big to store on the media you're using, you're stuck).  To make it
backward compatible with previous versions of ShrinkIt, you'd have to get all
the file info and sort of guess a best-fit algorithm.  This isn't exactly
trivial...

The alternative is to hack the NuFX format so that you can have "continuation"
archives, but if you're going to go through that you might as well just define
a new format...  You'd probably want to have a different auxtype so that
older versions of ShrinkIt don't read a continuation archive and freak out.

At any rate, I think it would make more sense to have a separate backup
program (which could be sold and make Andy N. some money, for a change) than
to try and kluge multi-disk archiving into ShrinkIt.

>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (Jay Bhartkumar Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Hard Drive
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:14:54 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


I am thinking of buying hard drive for IIgs. Can someone tell me what the cost is and is it worth getting it for IIgs?

Please E-mail your  reply.


Thank You.



COBRA

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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Launcher!
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:29:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr13.042936.9049
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Apr12.212759.2359@xcluud.sccsi.com> gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (Glynne Tolar) writes:
>In article <65212@apple.Apple.COM> shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:
>>While I keep close tabs on what Dave's doing to the Finder now, I no longer
>>work for IIGS System Software.  I work for Ron Lichty with the Macintosh
[=You know the rest=]

>I just know I'm going to regret saying this but somehow I feel I must.
>I saw this comming from a mile away.  I knew Andy was only a temperary in the
[=Poof=]
>it.  Gee!  Is it because they don't use it because the company does not really
>support it?  NAAAAAHHH!

No, you must not. (Say it that is.) GET REAL! Just the fact that Apple
made S6 and didn't deliver it to your home via FEDEX next day service
probably gets your goat as well. People, have you ever heard of self
fulfiling prophesy? While the squeaky wheel may get the grease, more
than likely it will also get replaced. We've been up and down this thread
a million times... Kinda like the S6 FAQs. Why does Andy's "leaving" mean
that the now released S6 is junk?! He's still in the same place - relatively
and working on the same machine... (You heard him folks - S6 was compiled
on a MAC! bweh.) And Dave is still working on it. (The major development
is over, folks) And Dave and Andy can still talk to each other. And Andy
obviously still reads this group. (Unless we make him leave... ;-)
And hopefully will continue to work on GSHK and some of the other proj.
that he said he would... (He was talking about adding .ZIP code to GSHK
if the guy who wrote the code got back to him...)

SO LIGHTEN UP! (*ahem*) Where the hell did we pick up the Doom & Gloom
team along the way!? AND HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ***HAVE*** TO
FOLLOW-UP ANDY'S POST!??? No wonder he hardly ever posts any more. Andy
is just one of us... (Well, unless you're going to correct me.) And he
needs to work for a living, and to a certian extent, that means doing
what he's told, and going for opportunities. There is a *LOT* of money
being dropped into the Mac lines now... He would be a FOOL not to go!
Good Luck! (From almost all of us! :-)
From: steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RawToRes 1.0 is on comp.binaries.apple2
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:50:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr13.005018.22602
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Could you send me the RawtoRes program?  BTW... what language did you write
it in?

Thanks,

Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: 11hlayton@galluj (Ryan Layton, aka Cybe)
Subject: HD and //e->gs upgrade ?'s
Organization: Gallaudet U.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:35:48 GMT


Hiya!

My University just got this News stuff up & running ( officially today )

and it's been fun to look through all the different groups...this group

is just what I've been looking for! (Really, it's been up but it got screwed 

around a bit, hopefully, it's really working now!)


I have an enhanced //e, and a DuoDisk, and a 10 meg Trustor DataMac 

(monster of a HD!)  that I got second hand...now, I have some 

questions...first, I don't have any idea on how to play with the HD.  It's 

up & running and all...I've copied stuff to/from it and all.  My problem is:

How do I re-format it?  It's basically running a DOS 3.3 program that

gives the user options to enter:

Pascal
CP/M
Prodos 1.2
Boot to slot 6
Quit/Park Heads

I want to get rid of the DOS 3.3 stuff, and have the drive boot up into Prodos8

Which will be less of an headache...

Anyone have anything that can help me out on this, or something that could

reformat my HD, allowing me to set it up, etc etc...


Second, my HD's 10 meg...(whooopeee!) and I'd like to see if I could 

take the drive itself out of the case, and replace it with another drive

(40-80 mb?)   Will the system recognize it?  I guess I'd need the HD

reformat/setup program anyway for this...


LAst question:  

Is there anyway I could get an upgrade to a IIgs from my //e?   I remember

when the GS first came out, Apple offered upgrades of //e's (motherboard

changes, detached keyboard, and all that) to GS'es.  Anything like that 

available today or would I have to get a GS, case and all?  

Thanks for all your help & input!

Cybe aka

Ryan Layton
11hlayton@galluj.gallaudet.edu
11hlayto@gallux.gallaudet.edu
From: sjordan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Jordan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RAMFAST Questions
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:34:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

Could someone tell me if RAMFAST includes drivers to use SCSI tape drives and
CD-ROMs?  Will the drivers work with ALL SCSI tapes & CDs, or only certain
brands?  Also, does RAMFAST include a special driver to read High Sierra format
CDs (so I could read CDs like a dictionary, encyclopedia, etc. on both my Apple
AND my IBM-PC?)  System 6.0 includes all these drivers including High Sierra
(I believe) for use with the Apple High-Speed SCSI card, but chances are that
those same drivers aren't compatible with RAMFAST.   Anyone???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: Ftp.Apple.Com
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:46:21 GMT

Apple moved things to Bric-a-Brac thats 130.43.2.3

Grant Delaney
delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca
From: cmm@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris M McKinsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 *still* isn't in Seattle
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:53:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <28mTiB1w165w@halcyon.com> wrd@halcyon.com (william dickson) writes:

For anyone in Seattle:

Try calling Quantum Computers in Tacoma (@ Tacoma Mall). When I lived there
they always supported the Apple II. Maybe things have changed, but it's worth
a try.

-- 
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* Chris M. McKinsey       Computer Electrical Engineer      Purdue University *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: andy@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Andy Stein)
Subject: Re: System 6.0 first impressions and questions
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/450-9394 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:18:13 GMT

    The Chicago TrueType font doesn't work because there is an error in the
Pointless Installer script.  Just copy the Chicago font from the Pointless 
disk to the Fonts folder on your hard drive (or wherever you want to keep
your fonts), and open the Pointless CDev from the Control Panel, and Add
Chicago to the list of fonts.  I had the same problem.


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From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Preston J. Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Piraccy via BBSs (was: Re: Apple Awards)
Date: 17 Apr 92 11:58:31 CDT
Organization: Macrocosm BBS: 913-841-9446

In article <01050133.14a091@caligula.cts.com>, edw@caligula.cts.com 
(Ed Watkeys) writes:
> XMODEM is almost totally worthless. Morgan not having Y or ZMODEM in
> ProLine makes it worthless for piracy.

Or anything for that matter.  When a SysOp is asked to spend twice as much
as anyone else for a BBS that supports third-rate protocols, what incentive
is there buy it.  I can't see myself paying >>$200 for BBS software that I 
know will always be two or more years behind everyone else's, especially given
how cheaply you can get old IBM hardware at garage sales.

If he really wants to make ProLine worthless for piracy, why not just write
software that doesn't answer the phone.

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From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Seeking advice on good ways to change the default 320 palette
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:18:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.011805.9435
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA


Sounds like the trick to me.... btw, perhaps you could offer some advice...

I have the following hardware/software configuration...

//GS Rom 1, RamKeeper, Apple Ram Card w/1 meg, GS Ram Plus w/6 meg,
Transwarp, Sonic Blaster, Rom C SCSI card, 2 Conner 100meg HD's....

Problem:  random hangs of the system when running sys 6... failure to run
PrintShop GS from the finder or from Prosel under sys 6...

Weird print results (random, sometimes it works fine)...

Sometimes (not often) PS GS even works....

I have tried launching from HD, launching my orig on floppy from hd,
changing my hardware config to include removing the transwarp and ramkeeper
cards....

changing to a "bare-bones" to a "maxed out" sys 6 with inconsistent
results.....

When I try to execute the program I get...

Sorry, a system error has occurred

                           ID = 1

press any key to continue

Any hints or suggestions?  Everything is the same as it was under sys
5.0.4, and it all worked.... I am running 8.71 vers of Prosel... and
everything else launches fine... (at least, so far)......

Thanks in advance fer yer assistance....

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