From: trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Most powerful PC ever
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:47:21 GMT
Reply-To: trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
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In article <1992Nov18.091053.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> wilsonm@vaxb.acs.unt.edu  
writes:
> >> 
> >> The Fighter/Mage already had Several Defensive items giving him -10 AC,  
and he  
> >> had a +3 Vorpal Sword which he could attack twice per round with (L 7  
> >> specialized fighter).  He also used a +5 Defender Sword, two-hander style.   
He  
> >> also had a girdle of Storm Giant Strength!  Now, he also had a Vampiric  
Ring of  
> >> Regeneration.
> >> 
> >> So here is the possible damage for a single round (This is by memory so it  
> >> could be slightly off.)
> >> 
> >> Vorpal Sword:  20-27 damage!  THAC0:  3  Behead on 17+.
> >> +5 Sword:      22-29 damage!  THAC0:  1
> >> (Damage and THAC0 count all bonouses.)
> >> 
> >> First, he had a better chance to hit every monster than they have to hit  
him.  
> >> (except dragons which I will talk about in a second.)
> >> Second, he does more damage per round than any monster except a Tarrasque  
(the  
> >> party killed a Tarrasque, wished it dead, and walked on in less than 5  
> >> minutes!)
> >> 
> >> Net result:  This PC could never be defeated by physical attackers.  Even  
3  
> >> storm giants (certainly no more could attack him simultaneously.) could  
not  
> >> out-damage this PC in melee!
> 
> The damage on a Storm Giant wielding a Storm giant 2-handed sword would 
> cquickly but this person in half...

Actually, no.  Like I said, the PC regenerates each time he hits, and his THAC0  
is better than the Storm Giant, and he had a better AC.  Net result is that the  
Storm Giant does less damage per round than the PC, and this causes the PC to  
take a net damage total of 0.
> 
> >> 
> >> Now, you might think that this PC could be killed by magic.  This was also  
> >> basicly not the case:
> >> 1.  He had several protective items which lowered all of his saves down to  
> >> close to 2.
> >> 2.  He had magic resistance through items of 40%.
> 
> Pffft - Magic resistance does nothing to a falling wall of iron - a dig spell
> under the character - an earth quak under ground in a cave (roof falls in on
> his head) - No save type stuff - and he dies - without hope of anyone
> re-gaining his EQ.

I really love it when my DM tells me, "hey you're dead!"  Then I say, what  
about my save, and he says, nope, your just dead.

When I DM, I NEVER have instant, no way out, death type deals.  I always allow  
the PC to either roll-play or role-play his/her way out of it.

> 
> >> 
> >> So, now it would seem that the only thing that could possibly stand a  
chance  
> >> against this PC would be a Great-Wyrm Dragon.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> He would cast Anti-magic shell and charge in and kick Axe!  (Both swords,  
his  
> >> bracers AC 0, and his ring of vampiric regeneration could work even in  
> >> anti-magic zones due to several wishes.)
> 
> There is NO sort of wish that shoud allow a character to get this - NEVER.
> And another thing - he should not have GOTTEN several wishes in the first 
> place.
> 
> And to top it all off - this character should NEVER I repeat NEVER gotten
> ALL THIS EQ.

This post is majorly old, and it has lost its enjoyment for me, but as has  
already been discussed, the adjudication of wishes is up to the DM, and the  
amount of treasure given out is also up to the DM.

I will make sure to tell my cousin (the owner of this former PC) over break  
that you wouldn't have allowed him to get all of this stuff.  I am sure that he  
will fall down and start chanting, "I am sorry, purge me!"

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Barry Trottier
e-mail:  trottibw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu