From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:40:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.165748.23160@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.123644.4422@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>In article <torrie.721468352@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>>dtiberio@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>>>	NONE OF THE ABOVE.
>>>>	EMPLANT = DEATH OF HIGH PRICED MACINTOSH.
>>>>	FULL MACINTOSH QUADRA SYSTEMS FOR UNDER $4,000.
>>>
>>>  Hmmm.  Look at my price list
>>>
>>>M5921LL/A Macintosh Quadra 700 4MB RAM             $3227.00
>>>
>>>Been there, done that.
>>
>>	Does this machine you quote have a monitor or keyboard? Is that the
>>list price or the underground basement price? Isn't the 700 outdated now?
>
>First, even if a monitor and keyboard are not included, a good monitor
>and keyboard can be added with a total of less than $4000.  From my price
>list, an Apple 14" Display is $495 and an Apple Extended Keyboard II is
>$160.  This totals $3882.  Notice that this is a big, high quality monitor
                                                  ^^^

Compared to what?  The little 9" portal on the toy Macs?  And $160 for what
is essentially an AT101 keyboard is about $100 too much.

>and a nice keyboard.  Also, notice that these are Apple peripherals, and,
>therefore, more expensive than 3rd party equivalents, so a system can be 
>found for less.

As others have pointed out, you still have not added the cost of a hard
drive.  Somehow I can't imagine even a mighty Quadra being that much fun
to use if you only had a floppy...

>I believe the price list being quoted on the main unit is educational,
>BUT those who know how to search the mail order options know that SIMILAR
>prices can be found there with sufficient effort.  Regardless, this price
>will be dropping by a lot in Jan. or Feb. when more Quadras come out.  Will
>the price of the Emplant system be able to drop sufficiently to keep up???

Well, the most expensive Emplant is about 1/10 the price of the Quadra, but
if Apple does release a Quadra for under $500 I'll buy one.  I don't really
have a need for a Mac, but I would like to be able to watch colored flying
toasters on my screen.  :-)

>No, the Quadra 700 isn't outdated.  It is on this price list that is only
>a couple of weeks old.  It is second only to the Quadra 950 in general
>CPU performance.  It is a vital niche in Apple's product line, and if
>phased out will be replaced by something similar (and cheaper).

Ha, the A2000 is on recent price lists!  Are you saying that a machine is
not outdated just because it is on a current price list?  And second only
to the 950, what the hell happened to the 900?  Rather short product life
if you ask me.  How much longer will the 700 be around?  There are Amiga
owners who were upset about the A2000, A3000, and A4000 series when each
was released initially.  Imagine the panic if Commodore began to drop
models as quickly as Apple...

>Jess Holle

Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate who don't need no stinkin' Quadra or Eggplant
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu