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From: jtkohl@cs.Berkeley.EDU (John T Kohl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Frequent Flier transfers
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:07:50 GMT
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In-reply-to: spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu's message of 8 Apr 1992 20:12:07 GMT

In article <rvk2nINNlri@agate.berkeley.edu> spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer) writes:

> For United, the person transferring the ticket must be present with the
> recipient at the time of ticketing (or is it flight time or both) for the
> transfer to be valid.

Close (in my experience at least).   I used some UA "new miles" awards
for my sister & brother-in-law.  All I needed to do was show up in
person at a ticket office and show ID and sign the vouchers for
transfer.  No need for the recipients to be present, or for me to be at
their flight.

--
John Kohl <jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu>
UC Berkeley CS grad student
Member of the League for Programming Freedom--details: league@prep.ai.mit.edu
(The above opinions are MINE.  Don't put my words in somebody else's mouth!)
From: kworrell@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Kurt Worrell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Delta 30 day Standby Airpass
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:44:14 GMT
	<1992Apr13.205322.1@max.u.washington.edu> <29EA825E.2145@ics.uci.edu>
Reply-To: kworrell@urbana.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola MCD, Urbana Design Center


>> A friend and I are travelling to the US in July, and we want to use a
>> Delta 30 day standby air pass to get around.
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience with these?
>>
>> How long are we likely to wait at airports for vacant seats, as we are
>> "standby passengers"?

Being here in the US, I'd like to know if any of the European airlines
have a reciprocal arrangement so people can jet around europe in the
same way.  I'd like to get something where I can go from ireland,
england, to continental europe and maybe all the way east to moscow.

I'd also like to know if the US plan can be purchased only by people
living outside the US or if it's available for locals too.

Thanks in advance,
Kurt.
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From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airline food
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:28:29 GMT
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Al Guinto writes:
>i've heard similar claims from a friend who orders kosher food
>whenever he's flying east to west.   although he's jewish, he's
>definitely not kosher.  nevertheless, he swears that the food is much
>better because it comes from kosher caterers in the nyc area
>(lou j. seigel, for example).
>
>i told him that this is not a good idea because it may deprive
>those that are truly kosher from obtaining in-flight meals.

Only if the airline serves the "special" meals to people who don't
order them ahead of time.  I thought the normal thing was that
you had to request the meals something like twelve hours in advance,
and they only brought special meals on board for those who order them.
Was i wrong on that?

*Grumble* Last time we flew to the States there was a man sitting 
across the aisle from us who couldn't eat the normal meal for some
reason.  He tried to make it out to be the stewardess' fault that he
hadn't ordered the correct meal ahead of time.  Poor woman.  To me
that's worse than screaming kids.

His loss; the food was actually quite good.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: majmudar@das.harvard.edu (Kaushal Majmudar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Flying to Tokyo from N.Y. or N.J.
Keywords: Tokyo Japan N.Y.
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:24:09 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

Hi,

	I am going to be flying RT to Tokyo from N.Y. from May 30-July 12.
I was wondering I people could suggest their favorite airlines. I would be
interested in finding out if anyone has heard of bonus miles incentives that
I could use to multiply my miles.

					Kaushal B. Majmudar
From: bwong@beach.csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons, longest flight
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:13:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: beach.1992Apr7.201357.18700
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <1992Apr7.190618.1138@reed.edu> terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight) writes:
>fly to your city.
>>
>>The new Amex tickets are only good for a six night stay.  That made it
>>extremely difficult to get tickets for the winter break of Xmas-New Year's.
>
>Yeah, this sucks, I've heard Chase's VISA card gives a much better deal with
>fewer restrictions on a better airline.  Anyone know?
>
>Terra

Restrictions from the back of my certificate...

Usual disclaimer restrictions deleted!!

Same cost structure as Continental

For travel on USAir

Travel not permitted on
1992
Feb 14,17(Florida only)
Feb 27-Mar 5 (New Orleans Only)
Nov 24,25,29,30
Dec 22,23,24,26

Must be ticketed within 48 hours of reservation being made
Max stay is 60 days.

(No where does it say a Saturday night stay is required)

Valid student identification must be presented at time of TICKETING.

(I called Chase and they sent the coupon out without any information from me)

Bradley Wong
bwong@beach.csulb.edu
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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:08:55 GMT

doesnt northwest fly jfk (in nyc) to osaka or tokyo nonstop?

--Ken
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From: tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Continental Airlines
Originator: tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 04:44:08 GMT

What's the current fiscal status of Continental?  Are they considered
prime candidates for bankruptcy?

I ask because I just discovered that for a MKE->LAX roundtrip flight,
booked 30 days in advance, Easy-Sabre quotes a fare of only $149.  The
next lowest is $392, on NW, Delta, etc....Any idea why Continental is
so low in comparison? 

thanks-
  Tom

-- 
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                         I put this moment--
                                              Over here!"        (Kate)
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From: holder@cse.uta.edu (Larry Holder)
Subject: Re: O'Hare -> San Juan
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:48:37 GMT


I purchased a ticket on American Airlines from O'Hare to St. John,
USVI through San Juan.  The O'Hare to San Juan segment is nonstop.
The itinerary shows the plane to be a 727 Stretch.


-- 
Larry Holder (holder@cse.uta.edu)

University of Texas at Arlington, Department of Computer Science Engineering
Box 19015, Arlington, TX 76019-0015, Phone: 817-273-2596, FAX: 817-273-2548
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Polar flights
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.175952.18847@mksol.dseg.ti.com> carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth) writes:
>I think Air New Zealand does it over the South Pole to South America.  

Nope.  They used to have sightseeing flights to Antarctica, but then, of
course, one of them crashed.

RNA
From: runeba@ifi.uio.no (Rune Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Polar flights
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:28:24 GMT
Reply-To: runeba@ifi.uio.no
Organization: What? Me? Organized?? You must be kidding!!!
Originator: runeba@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <jon.702677318@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
> 
>    The thread about longest air flights reminds me of another air travel
> question that I've never found an answer to:  Are there any regularly
> scheduled commercial airline flights that fly directly over the North
> Pole?  Or the South Pole?  If not, which ones come closest?
> 

I believe SAS (Scandinavian Airline System) have regular flight across the
North Pole from Copenhagen to Tokyo/US Westcoast.
SAS had the first commercial flight across the North Pole to Tokyo (refueling in
Anchorage, Alaska) in the late 50's.

> -- 
> Jon Corelis               jon@lindy.stanford.edu
> Stanford University       BITNET:  BA.JYC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU 


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.rune
-- 
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email: runeba@ifi.uio.no      Don't blame me: I'm only a student!!
From: spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: If I'd only known
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:12:07 GMT
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In article  max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff) writes:
 
> Well, to make a long story short, they ID'd her _again_ at the _gate_!!
> ..........  Nixed!!  So she
> had to buy a ticket there and then, lose the $189 I'd just charged for 
> those tickets, lose the voucher, and lose 3 hours waiting for the next
> flight.  It was ugly.
> 

Ouch.  It just goes to show that it's worth reading the fine print on these
things.  For many special rate discount vouchers there is fine print saying
that the airline can do this.  When Northwest had the $ 119 deal with AMEX,
I flew several times and the asked for my ID each and every time.

For many frequent flier awards they can do this, too.  With Northwest's, you
can transfer the award to a friend or relative, some form of ID is still
required.  The NW voucher has three spaces to fill in for transfer:
one for awardee's signature, one for recipient's name and one for recipient's
signature.  I once had a friend visit me on a voucher I sent her.  Since
I mailed it late and wasn't sure it would make it on time, I only signed it,
but didn't fill in her name.   She took it to the airport and had a bit
of trouble because the name was not filled in.  But, claiming she was my
fiancee, they let her on the plane after all.  Not that I had sold the
voucher to her anyway.

For United, the person transferring the ticket must be present with the
recipient at the time of ticketing (or is it flight time or both) for the
transfer to be valid.

If you don't want to get screwed, be careful, and know exactly what the airline
can and can't do.......

Good luck!   --Scott
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From: ap@cbnews.cb.att.com (Alexis Porras)
Subject: Re: FLIGHTS NEW ENGLAND/EAST COAST <--> COSTA RICA
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:21:19 GMT
Summary: there are any number of ways

In article <9204160207.AA00969@cowardlylion.cis.ohio-state.edu> schuyler@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler) writes:
|
|Hi,
|
|I need to fly from the Maine/Boston/New York area to Costa Rica (and
|back again, hopefully after about three months!!)  this summer.
|Leaving a little past mid-June, coming back before September 19.

(1) CALL THE AIRLINES! now that AA, UA, Continental all fly
there, there should be the usual fare wars.  (I guess you could
also call LACSA..."Nos Encanta La Genta"...now that they've
upgraded their planes from BAC11(?) to AirBuses, the flights are
comfortable, even if their ground operations (in Miami) are
clearly "third-world").  
(2) use FF miles - it's 30,000 round trip on AA, which is a
great deal, since that includes your US portion of the flight.
If you have TWA FFB miles, you can convert to AA!
(3) contact the Costa Rica consulate closest to you - they
should have tourist info to give you.
(4) For really cheap flights, consider flying on one of the
south american airlines that stop in Costa Rica  (Varig,
AeroNica, etc - I'm not sure which ones are available these
days) - but be warned that your flight may make several stops...
Check out the Miami and NY papers - I would guess they would
have the best deals.
(5) try a travel agent; the one that specializes in Costa Rica
(in Chicago) closed, sigh... if you find another one that
specializes, let me know!

		Have a good time!

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From: dvb@emisle.uucp (David Van Beveren)
Subject: Re: O'Hare -> San Juan
Organization: Emerald Isle Systems, Ltd. Agoura Hills, CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:09:14 GMT

In article <ken.702752728@point> ken@point.b17d.ingr.com (Ken Poore) writes:
>rlk20269@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard Leon Kapusta) writes:
>
>>I am planning on flying this route in May, and was wondering if there
>>were any non-stop routes.  How long is the flight?  What type of plane
>>should I expect?  Thanks for the info!
>

Delta has 4 daily connections through Atlanta. They have 9 nonstops to
Atlanta, and 7 from Atlanta to SanJuan. You should ticket this soon, since
SanJuan is a popular destination starting around May.

Sory, no nonstops.


-- 
David Van Beveren                          e-mail: uunet!emisle!dvb
Consulting Engineer                         voice: (818) 587-1247
EIS Ltd. Professional Software Services 
        "The opinions presented ARE those of Emerald Isle Systems!"
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From: Scott Brim <swb@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Eaasy-sabre access??
Organization: Cornell University, Ithaca, New York, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:13:23 GMT

EAAsy-Sabre is fun, but my travel agent is so much better than I am that
I only actually booked a flight once.  It's also a blessing to have a
good agent in an emergency (e.g. stuck in Chicago).  I don't bother with
it anymore.
From: lenoil@Apple.COM (Robert Lenoil)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Continental Tix
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:02:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <121968@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> slim@tazdevil.llnl.gov (Scott Whitman) writes:
>
>With all this talk about getting ID'd at the gate, does anyone know if
>a student ID is necessary, or just a driver's license?  I got some leftover
>AMEX coupons but I already graduated.  I still have my student ID but
>I wasn't sure what the policy is.
>
>		Scott
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Scott Whitman			slim@tazdevil.llnl.gov
>LLNL, L-416, P.O. Box 808	(510) 294-4109
>Livermore, CA 94550		

Any valid id will do. I too have graduated, and used my drivers license.

-Robert
From: AXLEROD@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Harvey Axlerod)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: BUMPS
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:53:08 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo


   Since I started this whole conversation, perhaps I should share my
experiences with bumps with you. All are USAir.
   IT ALWAYS pays to volunteer, even if the flight isn't full. Last Oct, I was
flying SEA-PIT-BUF. On the first leg of the flight, SEA-PIT, I was alone in a
3 seat row. I had insisted on volunteering. Well, some young mother was travel-
ling with 2 very young kids. I was offered a bump to first class, so that they
could sit together. Had a lovely flight.
   My wife and son were bumped from a PHO-San Diego flight. First class hotel,
limo, etc. This was over Xmas. By Jan 3, she had booked our  flights to Florida
for Easter (we leave next Fri, I cashed in  a frequent flyer). Oh, they were
using free tickets (FLY FREE) to San Diego, so the free ones begot free ones.
And, we booked thru LaGuardia hoping for a bump because of the Easter migration
South. Keep your fingers crossed.
   I think USAir is the most liberal airline around.
 
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From: davida@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (David Andersen)
Subject: Re: Delta Frequent Flier Mileage
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Reply-To: davida@ics.uci.edu (David Andersen)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:48:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.151905.1@max.u.washington.edu> gad@max.u.washington.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.202049.8273@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, punisher@gawain.cif.rochester.edu (What a charmer!) writes:
>> I recently started flying on Delta's Business Express
>> and decided to join their frequent flyer club.  According
>> to the details I got, I get 1000 miles for every BEX flight I
>> take.  Is this in addition to the miles the flight actually takes?
>> Or is is a set 1000 for BEX flight?
> Just 1000 as the minimum, more if you actually fly more.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> 	Pete
>>
>> By the way, does anyone have a clue as to how many miles
>> 	it will take before I can get something from Delta?  I
>> 	was joking with my uncle (who flies AA, united, or Delta
>> 	at least once a month) that I would probably need a million
>> 	miles before I got a freebie.  He said that was about right,
>> 	and that I MIGHT get to go as far as Rochester, NY. to NYC!!!
>  Listen to your uncle (40,000 for domestic, 50,000 for Hawaii, 70,000 for Europe

Why fly DL?  AA = 20000 for domestic, 30000 for Hawaii.....

David Andersen
UC Irvine

--
David Andersen (Yo! that's an E---not an O!)
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 14:57:41 EDT
From: <SASBOB@vm.sas.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject:    Concorde Info

I'm already planning my 10th anniversary 2nd honeymoon (next year), and
I'd really like for us to go to Europe via Concorde.  All I know is that
it's *really* expensive -- but fast!

Can anyone supply details re: average cost (i.e. NY--> Paris, DC -- Paris, etc)

Has anyone ever heard of special Concorde deals?

Opinion of Concorde vs. 1st Class (time/comfort/cost).


Please post responses or email me (and I'll post summary if warranted).

Thank you!

Bob Tschudi
SAS Institute Inc.
From: hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Pakistani Airlines
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:16:26 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

In article <92104.191842SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu> SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu (S. Wukovitz) writes:
>
>2.  Purposely misspell my name, e.g. Wucovis, Wukovits (the original
>    version), Vukovic...
>
>    Does anyone know if they check your airline ticket with your
>    passport to see that the names are the same?  In other words,
>    could I get away with a misspelling without getting booted
>    from the flight/getting in trouble when we depart/arrive,
>    etc.?  I have never ever been out of the US before...

Yes they do check your passport when you check in, because there is a (new)
regulation that if a passenger is refused entry it is the airline's
responsibility to repatriate: so airline check-ins check that you have a
valid passport and visa. They DO check the name, but if it's fairly close
(your misspellings sound reasonable) you can bluff your way through, claiming
your travel agent got it wrong. It happens to me occasionally, as my name has
a slightly unusual spelling.

In any case, I dont think that will help you much if you do get into trouble
with terrorists (surely the airline staff wont hassle you), as they will want
to see your passport not your ticket, and Jewish or not, the fact that you're
American is just as likely to make you a target.

Having said that, I think the likelihood of anything untoward happening to
you is infinitessimally small.
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From: jpy@mendelssohn.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS
Organization: Columbia University Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:48:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.134239.25174@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle) writes:

>  From: jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle) 
>  Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
>  Date: 9 Apr 92 13:42:39 GMT
>  Article-I.D.: cbnewsh.1992Apr9.134239.25174
>  References: <1946@ra.nrl.navy.mil>


>  From article <1946@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, by ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host):
>  > I was bumped on Continental when it was People's Express.
>  That's pretty tough to do, since Continental never had anything to do with
>  People Express.  Though in many ways they were similar.

   I believe Continental did absorb People's Express -
   the Continental Express subsidiary still services
   many of the same locations.

   /jpy

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From: cannon@tornado.dsd.es.com (Gary Cannon)
Subject: Re: Airline food
Organization: Evans & Sutherland
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:54:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.172152.4828@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr10.102605.19402@athena.mit.edu>, rk@athena.mit.edu (Richard Kovalcik) writes:
|> <
|> <Gee, in the last month or so I had a stewardess on NW state up front
|> <that if the steak (sic) wasn't cooked enough she would take it back and 
|> <cook it more.  I overheard her say this to more than one person.
|> 
|> In a microwave?
|> 
Most flights that serve meals have convection ovens for heating meals. The
larger planes (DC10, 747) have galleys below the passenger levels that have
better facilities for meal preparation.

--
 ---		Gary G. Cannon
 ---		Evans & Sutherland
 ---		cannon@dsd.es.com
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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: USair
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:36:40 GMT

In article <122674@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>In article <29ECD9FF.9511@ics.uci.edu> davida@ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the following are also true:
>>  Air Canada acquired CPAir
>
>NO!!  Pacific Western bought CP Air and changed its name to Canadian
>Airlines International.  CAI later bought several smaller airlines,
>including Quebecair, Eastern Provincial Airways, and Nordair, I believe.
>Air Canada is totally separate.
>

Ya got it backwards.  CPAir tookover the little carriers, then got bought
out by PWA in a reverse takeover (I believe the PWA company charter makes
it virtually impossible for PWA to be taken over).  PWA remained as the
parent company, the resulting airline is CAI.  CAI later ate Wardair.

RNA



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