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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:49:23 GMT


In article <ASH.92Nov17144216@ulysses.mr.ams.com>, ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
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|> From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
|> Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
|> In-Reply-To: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:28:31 GMT
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|> References: <1992Nov16.122940.5631@desire.wright.edu> <Bxtsvy.AC9@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
|> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:42:16 GMT
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|> 
|> In article <Bxtsvy.AC9@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
|> 
|>   > In article <1992Nov16.122940.5631@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
|>    >>	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
|>    >>	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
|>    >>	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois
|>    >>
|>    >>	Ohio State locks the Citrus by having 8 wins, so even if they tie for
|>    >>second or end up in third they'll still go.  Citrus has an 8-win escape clause.
|> 
|> >	   This isn't altogether correct.  Iowa can still go to the Holiday
|> >	   if Illinois beats MSU and Iowa wins at Minnesota...
|> 
|> I predict:  
|> 
|> Michigan loses to Ohio State, but crushes Washington in the Rose Bowl
|> by scoring 45 points in the second quarter.  They are held scoreless
|> in the second half.
|> 
|> OSU beats an uninspired Michigan 22-21 after Moeller stupidly goes for
|> two.  OSU wins handily in the Citrus Bowl by playing good defense and
|> mounting extended ball-control drives.
|> 
|> MSU beats Indiana, rushes for 450 yds., passes for -2, blows out

   If you can  make that bold prediction, I'll boldly predict that
   Illinois will tie Michigan 22-22.  Hope it comes true!!
   (leaders and the best... the biggest flamer can keep it straight)

Murph   

|> Holiday Bowl opponent.  Everyone picks Spartans to win Big Ten in
|> 1993, but they lose the first five before winning the rest of their
|> games.



|> The Wimpy, er, Big Ten regains the prestige it so deservedly lost.
|> 
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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: OU over OSU woof
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:28:30 GMT

>> chen@a.cs.okstate.edu (SMITH LISA MIN-YI):
>>> Whatcha think about OU going for the tie instead of the win?  Kinda
>>> lowering your standards, huh?

>(Mike Minihan) writes:
>> Not really Lisa, it's the way the stupid system works. Are you telling me
>> that if OU would have kicked the field goal first that OSU would not have
>> done the same thing. Just ask ND, Colorado, Michigan.
>>
>> The two things that College Football needs NOW is:
>> 
>>              1.  A tie breaker.
>>              2.  A play-off system.
>> 
>> It's funny, I always here coaches say don't let the press pick your
>> quarterback. Then answer I want is why do they let them pick the national
>> champion? Let's solve it on the field.

(Michael E. Dupree) writes:
>Very True!!  A sudden-death overtime is in dire need for college football.  


Or perhaps a coach/team/school with a little guts :-)

- goober (always willing to take a jab at ou) smith

ps: my wife's name is lisa.
pps: we were married in stillwater.
ppps: we still have our osu accounts.
pppps: i know her password.   

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From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
Subject: Re: Michigan - National Championship - Not with Moeller
Organization: SigSauer Fan Club 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:16:22 GMT

In article <BxtCDL.37M@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>As a UM alumnus, I was very disheartened to hear Gary Moeller say that 
>guaranteeing a spot in the Rose Bowl was more important than having a chance  
>win the National Championship. With an attitude like that he'll never win one. 
>
i attribute this more to michigan's reknowned "one game per season"
choke than moeller's incompetence.  at the end of the game, i think
he did the right thing in kicking.  a 4th and 15 in a LOW percentage
outcome.  the problem was that moeller obviously didn't take illinois
too seriously.  and in doing so proved once again that michigan
will never get a MNC.  10 fumbles!  michigan was lucky to get away
with a tie.

drew

>Hail to those who tie. Gary you're going to make people forget about Pat Dye.

or maybe even bo? 
--
betz@gozer.idbsu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:15:56 -0500 
From: William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: PAC-10 HYPE
Distribution: na

In an article <1992Nov15.213717.22965@leland.Stanford.EDU>
elsonliu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Liu) writes:

>It was definitely an interesting Saturday this week.  Arizona upset by USC,
>Washington St. upset by Stanford, Washington crushing Oregon St.  It seems
>like there are a five strong teams in the conference this year - Washington,
>Stanford, USC, Washington St., Arizona.  No MNC contenders, but methinks any
>could be spoilers for such contenders...
> 
>.....Elson.....

Elson, do you realize what you're saying?  Washington could very well
put themselves back into National Championship contention!  If the
pollsters realize that Bama and TAMU are overrated, and if Miami and FSU
happen to lose their respective bowls, then Washington is the NC, if and
when they beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl.  Now, the odds of all of these
things happening are slim, but Washington is still not out of the
National Championship picture.

Will
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Subject: Big 8 Preview reviewed(11-23)
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:28:29 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


Sat(11-21)	results		my	marsee	gupta	schmidt	Sagarin	nat
ISU @ CU	31-10c		21c	16c		12c	15c	17c	
KU @ MU		22-17m		7k	7k		9k	6k	8k
OSU @ KSU	10-0ks		1ks	4ks		2ks	1ks	3ks

PICKS/vs SPREAD
	this week	overall
Mine	2-1/1-1-1	41-15-2/17-25-2
MARSEE	2-1/2-1        	32-14-2/20-28
Gupta	         	35-9-2/26-20
Schmidt	2-1/2-1        	42-11-2/27-24-2
Sagarin	2-1/2-1        	30-13-2/22-22-1
Nation	2-1/2-1        	32-10-2/24-18-2

Mine
ISU @ CU......after the Cyclones big upset, the Buffs won't be 
	shocked.  ISU used a ground game to control the clock.  And
	the game.  But ISU isn't in the home-cooking of Ames,IA.
	And the road is rough on 'em.  Another crushing in Boulder.
	Bowl implications for CU...possible Orange.
	CU 24-3.
KU @ MU.....the border war.  These two hate each other.  Mizzou
	just came off an upset over K-State for their first DivIA
	win this year.  KU barely got beat by Colo for the 2nd
	straight year.  Bowl implications for the Jayhawks too...
	possible Orange.  KU 24-17.
OSU @ KSU....KSU, who can figure them out.  Tough at home, wimps
	on the road.  OSU seems to be the same way.  It is KSU's 
	Homecoming, and the weather is 50 and rain.  Because of
	the rain, KSU 21-20.

Marsee's(place,rate)
ISU	40-587			CU	17-699
KU	25-670			MU	63-512
OSU	66-509			KSU	76-484
NU	 2-894
OU	27-643

GUPTA's picks(place,rate,score)

Schmidt's picks(place,pts,str)
ISU	50-72.544-73.084	CU	17-81.350-72.842
KU	22-79.143-72.921	MU	71-67.622-73.297
OSU	68-68.400-73.697	KSU	75-67.027-68.684
NU	 3-92.003-76.909
OU	31-75.954-71.677

Sagarin(team,place,rate,sch.str;opp,place,rate,sch.str)
ISU	54-72.84-72.23		CU	15-84.97-75.31
KU	23-80.97-73.94		MU	66-71.11-77.71
OSU	72-69.56-76.89		KSU	82-67.54-70.17
NU	 2-95.87-76.70
OU	21-81.33-72.37

	conf		overall	
CU      5-1-1           9-1-1
NU      4-1-0           7-2-0
OU      3-1-2           5-3-2
KU      4-3-0           7-4-0
KSU     2-4-0           5-5-0
OSU     2-4-1           4-6-1
ISU     2-5-0           4-7-0
MU      2-5-0           3-8-0

Fri(11-27)
	NU @ OU		12:30pm ABC
Sat(12-5)
	KSU v NU(Toyko)  9:00pm
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: UT in Austin predictions
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:30:41 GMT

Mike (mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org) wrote:
: [Jay brags on tu's *awesome* schedule]
: 
: you tell them Jay.  i wonder how many quality teams were on a&m's
: schedule in the last couple of years.  also, most of these teams were
: ranked when we played them.

Yeah, we sure weren't (aren't) getting any help out of Austin, are we?
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: ds4@soc11.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:09:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.172312.23022@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@mauchly.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov20.194623.25840@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
|> >
|> >Try, they both tied at South Bend, thus the edge to Michigan.  However, 
|> >Michigan tied Illinois... BUT!!! Notre Dame LOST at home to Stanford, and
|> >it wasn't even a close game...
|> >
|> >-- 
|> >David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
|> >VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
|> >uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
|> >davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
|> 
|> Hey Dave,
|> 
|> I think most people with a brain would say that Stanford is a little

Yes, if rob can see this, anyone can....but that does not mean that rob has a
brain.

|> bit more competition that Illinois.  Also, the mighty Maize and Blue
|> narrowly squeaked by Purdue ... 
|> 
|> 			- Bring on the Canes in the Fiesta Bowl

Yea right....like the Canes would even bother with a pathetic team such as the
cowering chickens....ah I mean the fighting irish.
|> 
|> 					rob

-ds4
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WOOF GODS STRIKES AGAIN! (was Re: WSU 42 UW 23)
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:22:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <bMH=B9_@engin.umich.edu> chyang@paronomasia.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

>	I finally figured it out.  Don James must be Santa Clause!  He 
>successfully spearheaded the campaign, "Help out your PAC-10 neighbor to
>a bowl bid" by letting the Huskies play their worse game in nearly three
>years.  Now WSU must be considered for a Bowl.  That has got to be the
>greatest gift that Santa ever gave to WSU.

Hey, jack, WSU earned it.  I'll grant you that on the basis of raw
talents UW should be 7 point favorites.  But WSU has a lot of talent
on offense (which has played inconcistently at times this year),
and a good defense this year.  And the UW doesn't have Entman.  Did
you see the game and how Bledsoe was passing very good in the snow
and wind?
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: RFARR@NOVELL.COM (Rich Farr)
Subject: Re: #1 in WAC
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:15:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.041052.10479@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@bingham.utah.edu (
Jianliang Li) writes:
>	Suppose after the regular season, the final records look like:
>
>		Hawaii		6-2
>		San Diego St.	6-2
>		BYU		6-2
>		XXX		6-2
>	Who will be WAC Champ?    
>
As I understand it, there would be co-champions.  However, SDSU would 
probably end up going to the Holiday Bowl (long trip for them) since they 
beat both Hawaii and BYU.  The have to beat Fresno State first though.  
Corrections are welcome.
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Non-Conf Foes (was: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule)
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:07:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: nsisrv.1992Nov18.220728.9990
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <1992Nov18.190753.45777@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu  
(MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.211156.13154@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>,  
oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:

> >Only those people that keep on insisting that the ACC is a weak conference
> >outside of FSU.

> Who do you think you are kidding?  In football the ACC has Clemson, Virginia,
> NC State, Carolina, FSU, and Georgia Tech.  All of whom have been ranked
> recently and Maryland is on the verge of a huge breakthrough.  Top to bottom,
> sport to sport.  With or without the addition of FSU, ACC is the best
> conference around.

Look, I never said _I_ was saying it, especially since I'm a big
proponent of ACC football (willing to drive 300 miles to see Duke
lose to Maryland, for example).  There are plenty of people
in the media who look at the ACC as FSU and the other guys, 
especially since FSU went undefeated.  The stereotype of the ACC
is a good basketball conference, but not so good in football top 
to bottom.  If FSU had lost a game in conf, this might have changed
things.

This stereotype is strong outside of the ACC's area, despite the fact
that many teams have been ranked this year.  Look at how Georgia Tech was  
ranked at the end of their split MNC season (in comparison to the always  
over-rated Big 8, football, basketball, and otherwise!).  #1 by Coaches,
not #1 by the media, despite 5th down and other stuff, citing strength
of schedule.  Go figure.

p.s.  Maryland has a lot of catching up to do, but is doing a good job
      in rebuilding so far.
 
--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
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Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
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From: rszczerb@hollerith.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:30:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

According to the new Bowl Coalition, if Miami and FSU
finish the season #1 and #2, does Miami have to play
Florida State even if they already met once earlier in
the season, or would Miami have a choice?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kollur@jec310.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Re: Possible #1 vs. #2 matchup in major bo
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:34:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.192927.4267@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>
>Secondly, the team that is invited to one of the conference champion bowls
>*is not* obligated to accept the invitation.  The example discussed was
>(before NU's loss and FSU jumping A&M) that assuming Alabama lost, the 
>Cotton Bowl with a #2 A&M would select first, and invite #1 Miami.  But,
>Miami *might* have a chance to play a top-5 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl,
>make 1.2 million more on payout, save 700,000 on travel expenses, and
                                       ^^^^^^^
>still (try to) say they played an opponent meriting the MNC.
>
 I had earlier seen a figure of $800,000 in a newspaper for travel expenses
and thought it was a typo and that they actually meant $80,000. Does
it really cost that much to move a team? How do teams that play in the
other bowls (liberty, all american, weedeater etc.) manage?  They must
lose money playing in the smaller bowls. Does anyone out there have a
breakup of the costs involved?
Ramana
.............................................
Nov 26th:
Auburn 999
Alabama  0
.............................................
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:16:44 GMT

Todd Henderson (tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: The over rankedness of a team will show thru on Jan. 1.  I've heard that
: if things end up:
: 
: 1.  Miami
: 2.  Bama
: 3.  fsu
: 4.  TAMU
: 
: Which would indicate a Miami/Bama game and a fsu/TAMU game, fsu would
: probably not attend due to last year.  That, my friend, I would call
: ducking.  The source for this is second hand out of a paper somewhere, so
: take at as is, rumor.

Actually, Todd, according to the paper here in Dallas (up until this week
anyway), speculation is that the Cotton Bowl wouldn't want to invite FSU...

(in the bowl projections they printed Wed., they had A&M vs FSU in the
Cotton Bowl)

This gets pretty involved, but it all comes down to TV (money)... I'll 
try to be clear...  OK -- the Rose Bowl would normally compete against the
Fiesta Bowl for TV ratings (as I type this that doesn't sound right from
previous years, but...).  However, there is a good chance that either
USC, Stanford, or maybe even Arizona will be invited to the Fiesta Bowl. 
If so, the PAC-10 has a rule against two of its members playing in bowl
games competing for TV ratings on NYD.  So, they would swap time slots
with the Fiesta and Cotton Bowls to avoid the conflict.  Now, the Cotton
Bowl is going head-to-head against the Rose Bowl, traditionally the 
best-rated bowl game.  So, in order to improve their ratings, the Cotton
Bowl would invite Notre Dame (who else).  This would suck in my opinion,
unless ND ends up being the "highest ranked available team" at that time
anyway...

I haven't seen anything in the Dallas paper that implies that FSU wouldn't
accept an invitation...
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Possible #1 vs. #2 matchup in major bo
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:11:26 GMT

David Head (dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com) wrote:
: [previous discussion over coalition "mandates" deleted]
: 
: My understanding of the Bowl Coalition is that a #1 Miami would indeed 
: have had to play a #2 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl or a #2 TAMU in the 
: Cotton Bowl whether or not the Orange Bowl paid more.  Supposedly if 

This is absolutely not true.  This exact scenario has been discussed at
length in the Dallas Morning News the past week or so.  This discussion
has included interviews with Miami AD Dave (?) Maggard, who will only
say that Miami is "committed to making the coalition work", but "all things
being equal", they would prefer to stay home and play in the Orange Bowl,
and that they would have to evaluate their options at the end of the season.

Now, where neither #1 or #2 have a conference bowl tie-in, I don't know
what the "rules" are...  But if a #1 (or #2, for that matter) team can
choose against a MNC game in a conference bowl, I can't believe that they
wouldn't have the same option in the Fiesta Bowl.

: either of the two above happened, or my personal favorite, Miami vs. FSU 
: in the Fiesta, the hosting bowl would suddenly come up with the extra 
                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: money (network TV or somewhere) to take away the economic argument.  
  ~~~~~
This has been discussed too, and is considered unlikely.

: I don't really know for sure about the "mandate" part either.  I think 
: what happens is the bowl with the highest ranked committed team (currently 
: the Sugar with #2 Bama, but certainly subject to change) gets first pick 
: of available opponents and would naturally choose currently #1 Miami.  I 
: guess there isn't anything that would force Miami to accept, but if the Sugar
: somehow came up with enough money to eliminate Miami's financial argument for
: the Orange Bowl, then Miami would have a hard time explaining not going to the
                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This, along with their stated "committment" to making the coalition work is
the only thing to force it to happen.

: Sugar Bowl.  If they tried to do that, then I would be in favor of stripping
                                                                     ~~~~~~~~~
: them of their ranking and moving the rest of the teams up.  In other words, if
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: you are going to duck a National Championship matchup with no valid reason, 
: you lose your ranking and chance to be #1.  The same goes for any #1 who 
: would try to do the same, including my beloved Noles!

Sounds good to me!!
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Michigan
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:53:39 GMT

ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>In article <Bxrx2B.LMn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:

>What we don't deserve is assholes like you.  Why don't you crawl back
>into the hole you came out of?  Michigan is still undefeated in the
>wimpy ten.  Can Illinois say the same?  What a dickhead.

Take it easy!!!!  I have to gloat after the tie.  And hey, I'm happy with the 
tie although we could have one the game.  Are you from Micgigan or something??
What are you so bitter about????  No one thought that we'd even come close to
beating Michigan, and we came VERY close.  You are so elequent in you postings.
I mean really... who really wants to read your babble...

>-Alan Harder
>These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!

Please, keep them... 

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From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: Iron Bowl
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:51:07 GMT

In article <dkm2.722483747@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
|> 
|> Rich, I am so sorry that you have not been warned about disturbing the woof
|> gods.  I am sure the follow-ups I have yet to read are flames 30 feet high.
|> 
|> Many of us feel pity for the doomed Auburn Tigers.  Rumor has it that the team
|> voted to forefit the game to avaoid a Thanksgiving day massacre.  "David Palmer
|> will speed down the field like a tornado for a touchdown, blowing all of the 
|> AU fans and players from the stadium" (Swanger, 1992).
|> 
|> Maybe the woof gods will have pity on you and forgive you for this sin.
|> 
|> David
|> 
	David,
		I think you've had your say.  State lost so get over it.
		I have read all your post since the game about the "woof
		gods" and all. I have kept my mouth shut 'til now but
		this is the "IRON BOWL".  Pick a team, pull for them
		and cut out this damn sarcastic non-sense.
			HERE KITTY KITTY !!!!!


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