HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: steve@dmntor.UUCP (Steve Pozgaj)
Subject: Re: Sarajevo pix in NY Times magazine
Organization: Digital Media Networks, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:40:26 GMT

In article <27JUL199207421384@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> This Sunday's NY Times Magazine contained a portfolio of photos 
> titled "The Dying City of Sarajevo." First, here's what it =should=
> have included:

And what are you?  A journalist/editor?  Who are you to say what should have
been included where?  If you want the kind of gore you're asking for, just
check out CNN any half hour.  Or have a look at some of the pictures that
are being sent back by photo/reporter crews that various newspapers are
sending over to get the truth out (e.g. the Toronto SUN).

> In other words, they used scenes that are about the size of the
> average movie set, and look like they were set up to make a
> movie, to represent the alleged destruction of a whole city.
> This strengthens my position that the allegations are fiction. 

A vacuous argument strengthens nothing ... except perhaps the obvious
implication that you fall in the same camp as the idiot fanatics that
still continue to try to convince people that the Holocaust never happened,
that it was fiction and fabrication by the Jews:  Those pictures of heaps
of bones used to make manure for Auschwitz's commandant's cabbage patch --
hey!  they're all fabrication!  Those mass-grave photos found by the
liberating allies -- they used actors!  and so on it goes.

You're a sick person.  You might reflect, for a moment, on the value
of the tolerance this society has -- and at what cost -- to allow your
type of drivel to be disseminated.  Making bets about the true anguish
of the death and misery we watch each day from the comfort of our living
rooms can only be the product of a sick mind.
-- 
Steve Pozgaj (signature in postmark; cute remarks in comics section)
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From: babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Scott Babb)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.humor
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:07:06 GMT
Organization: Sanders Associates
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
: In article <1992Jul21.152442.24007@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
: >Ah, but it is illegal now.  Not only can the school not pay for praying
: >at a graduation, but the SC recently ruled that no praying can take place
: >there, regardless of funding.
: 
: Wait a minute. The sc said that no one can pray while they are graduating??
: 
: Please cite this decision I would be interested to hear it.
: 
: Carl, do you have this SC decision banning prayer on FTP?
: 
: -rob
: 
: 

WHAT!?!?! The Supreme Court has banned prayer on FTP?!?  What jurisdiction
do they have over the data flowing through a TCP/IP port?  I'll bet that
many people who have FTPed across the Internet have prayed for a stable
network connection, low bandwidth usage, etc.  Does this mean that they're
all violating the Constitution?  (;-))

--
   Lockheed Sanders may disagree so these are solely the opinions of:
             Scott L. Babb - babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
              "We didn't inherit the Earth from our parents,
                   we are borrowing it from our children."
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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,alt.postmodern
Subject: Re: Photo of bombed cars
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:32:56 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:

>An anti-Mafia official in Palermo was said to have been killed
>by a "remote-controlled car bomb." The photo of the aftermath
>published in the NY TImes on Monday shows three cars clustered
>together and cordoned off from a crowd of viewers. The caption
>says, in part, "The powerful explosion also smashed these
>nearby cars."

>In the foreground are two sedans that suffered damage that
>is highly implausible, in the context. Both have had their
>roofs dented in a manner that could only have happened as a
>result of heavy objects falling on them, squarely in their centers.
>Anyone want to make up a story to explain it?

Not at all...how about looking at the whole picture, as broadcast on CNN.
I saw a car completely destroyed, still burning.  Numerous other cars
showed damage.  It is impossible to say from a newspaper picture the type 
or extent of damage suffered by a car.  First, they only show a portion of
the car, and then, damage can be masked because of the reproduction quality
of the typical newspaper photo...

Make a side trip when you go to Sarajevo and look at the color photos that
the investigators took....

 -Steve
--
 The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not SPSS, Inc.
                        -------------------
     adams@spss.com                           Phone: (312) 329-3522
     Steve Adams                              Fax:   (312) 329-3558
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From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:18:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.161420.22047@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@ruby.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:
>
>Larry King (also a talk-show host) as well as a number of other talk
>show hosts have publicly questioned Rush Limbaugh's feelings towards
>blacks, women and all minorities.
>
>He is not much more than a hate monger hiding behind a smoke-screen 
>which he calls patriotism.  This is not unusual (historically).
>Gedaliah Friedenberg

I've listened to Rush often enough to realize that he has NEVER attacked any of
the above groups of people. (While he certainly has attacked the leaders of
many groups who purport to represent some of the above groups. i.e. Feminists, etc..)

He is also very entertaining.  I don't think he is a hate monger at all. (ARF on the
other hand is quite obviously a hate monger without any sort of screen)

mark
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:35:10 GMT

In article <BrqwCC.2qp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tbuckley@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Tim Buckley) writes:
>
>>>>Larry King (also a talk-show host) as well as a number of other talk
>>>>show hosts have publicly questioned Rush Limbaugh's feelings towards
>>>>blacks, women and all minorities.
>>
>>>>He is not much more than a hate monger hiding behind a smoke-screen 
>>>>which he calls patriotism.  This is not unusual (historically).
>>>
>>>I publicly question your ability to back this statement up with some
>>>facts.					
>>
>>Well, i have never heard Rush on the subject of race. The only time I was
>>unfortunate enough to hear his program, though, he spoke on censorship. His
>>rant was basically to the effect of "its illegal to pray at a graduation,
>>I mean prayer is illegal, but its ok to sing songs about killing cops." He
>>continued this rant for several minutes before I got bored and changed the
>>station. 
>>
>>Nice logic, Rush. Of course prayer is not illegal, it just cant be government
>>funded. Im sure that few jurisdictions would allow "Cop Killer" to be sung
>>at their graduation ceremonies either. Such ridiculous, inflammatory non-
>>logic places rush one level below Paul Harvey in my book.
>>
>>
>
>Look I hate to be mean here but your post said that Rush was "nothing
>more than a hate monger".  You were then asked to provide evidence to
>this point.

IT WAS NOT MY POST. I WAS RESPONDING TO A THREAD THAT WAS DAYS OLD ALREADY.
I MADE NO CLAIM TO PROVE THAT HE WAS A HATE MONGER. I NEVER SAID HE WAS A HATE
MONGER. PLEASE LOOK MORE CLOSELY BEFORE CRTICIZING ME FOR PAGES ON END.


thank you
>>
>You on the other hand never even attempted to provide the evidence that
>was needed to support your claim that Rush is a hate monger.  

It was not my claim, asshole.In fact, I began my post by saying "I have never
heard Rush on the subject of race". DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ??

>effect then do not make such obviously pitiful attempts to persuade us
>with inconsequential "facts".  Take your vitriolic and illogical
>argument to alt.stupidity or alt.pathetic. 

No, you take your crap to alt.pathetic asshole. Read who said what. I
even admitted that my story was taking this thread in a different direction.

>You owe Rush and apology and
>the readers of this newsgroup an apology for wasting our time refuting
>your silly statements.

No, ASSWIPE, you owe ME an apology. You did not read my post properly, and
then preceeded to blast me for it for pages on end. 
>
>Have a nice day
>
>Tim

-rob
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,alt.postmodern
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Photo of bombed cars
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:59:00 GMT

An anti-Mafia official in Palermo was said to have been killed
by a "remote-controlled car bomb." The photo of the aftermath
published in the NY TImes on Monday shows three cars clustered
together and cordoned off from a crowd of viewers. The caption
says, in part, "The powerful explosion also smashed these
nearby cars."

In the foreground are two sedans that suffered damage that
is highly implausible, in the context. Both have had their
roofs dented in a manner that could only have happened as a
result of heavy objects falling on them, squarely in their centers.
Anyone want to make up a story to explain it?
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:24:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Jul21.152442.24007
Organization: Western Washington University

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:

>Nice logic, Rush. Of course prayer is not illegal, it just cant be government
>funded. Im sure that few jurisdictions would allow "Cop Killer" to be sung
>at their graduation ceremonies either. Such ridiculous, inflammatory non-
>logic places rush one level below Paul Harvey in my book.

Ah, but it is illegal now.  Not only can the school not pay for praying
at a graduation, but the SC recently ruled that no praying can take place
there, regardless of funding.   I'm not a christian, or in any way religious,
but I think it is ridiculous for the federal government to micro-manage
the actions of local schools, all the way down to what is said at graduation.

A lot of other people feel this way also (but obviously not the SC members),
and would feel this way regardless of what the SC chose to ban in local 
schools.

Anyway, Rush, like Paul Harvey, runs primarily an entertainment show, not a 
news show.

Jim Del Vecchio
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From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.misc
Subject: Re: Sarajevo: No new bullet holes
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:32:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Independence
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <+pxx-1b@rpi.edu>, speights@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Arlen Speights) writes...
>I picked up a woman at the airport this week who had barely been able
>to leave Sarajevo, and who will never see her home, as it was, again.
>She left on a bus of foreigners, and had the opportunity to see her
>city for the first time in weeks (and for the last time in years).
>She didn't recognize it.




Tell us more, then. As it stands, the above doesn't make too
much sense as a narrative. And it invites musing on the multiple
meanings of "to pick up," not all of which are in line with the
emotional tone you were trying to establish.
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.c
From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
	<EGGERTJ.92Jul27233251@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>
	<1992Jul28.193157.22308@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:44:02

In article <1992Jul28.193157.22308@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> ejk@coral.JPL.NASA.gov (Elya Kapelyan) writes:
>	   You are absolutely right when you say that the CD Accords have not 
>   been fully implemented, but the issues have more to do with Egyptian 
>   unwilligness than with the Palestians, the Jordanians, or the Martians.  The
>   primary purpose of the CD Accords was the return of the Sinai to Egypt in 
>   return for "peace", and the sections on the "autonomy" were essentially a fig
>   leaf for Sadat.  In addition, you very conveniently ignore the fact that the 
>   Palestinians rejected the CD Accords, out of hand.  So who was Israel supposed to
>   have negociated with, themselves?

That does present a problem, of course.  On the other hand, the former
Shamir government was doing all it could (legally and illegally) to
make sure that these provisions of the Camp David agreement, dead
though they were because of Palestinian (and I suspect also Jordanian)
intransigence, deader yet due to Jewish settlements in the Occupied
Territories.

>   |> Somehow, I think that the US was cheated on this deal.  We paid for a
>   |> Palestinian state, and we didn't get one.  We ought to ask for our
>   |> money back.
>   |> 
>   |> --
>   |> =Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
>
>	   Wrong.  We paid for a reduction of tension in the Middle East, and we 
>   got just that.  I doubt that even Carter would have been stupid enough to want
>   a Palestinian state west of the Jordan.

We paid for a lot more than we got.  We paid for a solution to the
Palestinian question, and that solution is still pending.  Ask the
victims of Palestinian terrorism (or their survivors) since the
signing of the Camp David accords if "reduced tension" has helped
much.  Ask the Palestinian youths living under military occupation if
their lives are worth anything more because of "reduced tension".

If the Camp David accord were a contract, and Israel and Egypt
industrial suppliers, and I were the contracting party, I wouldn't pay.
They haven't delivered, so I wouldn't pay.
--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.humor
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:32:08 GMT
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University

babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Scott Babb) writes:
>rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>: >Ah, but it is illegal now.  Not only can the school not pay for praying
>: >at a graduation, but the SC recently ruled that no praying can take place
>: >there, regardless of funding.
>: 
>: Wait a minute. The sc said that no one can pray while they are graduating??
>: Please cite this decision I would be interested to hear it.
>: Carl, do you have this SC decision banning prayer on FTP?

>WHAT!?!?! The Supreme Court has banned prayer on FTP?!?

    That's only if you're a sysop, postmaster, or some other form of 
"agent" representing the internet. Users, however, are still encouraged 
to use prayer while logged in (or at the very least, to cross their 
fingers).

>  What jurisdiction
>do they have over the data flowing through a TCP/IP port?  I'll bet that
>many people who have FTPed across the Internet have prayed for a stable
>network connection, low bandwidth usage, etc.  Does this mean that they're
>all violating the Constitution?  (;-))

    Not necessarily. If they limit their prayers to exhortations for 
help from gender and ethnic non-specific gods then their prayers might
be allowable under federal guidelines.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu      nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:49:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Jul22.084904.13925
Organization: Western Washington University

arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:


>Anybody notice how the issue got switched from the Friends of Israel
>programming Rush to prayer in school?

I was going to comment on the FoI part, until I was contacted by an
agent of ZOG advising me to instead divert the focus to prayer in
school.   The same agent, I assume, who contacted all the other
posters with similar instructions.

>Doesn't anyone have even a tiny thought on the subject?

>Why the hell does the subject never come up?


Because of ZOG, obviously.

>arf

Jim Del Vecchio
From: markc@eomer.hw.stratus.com (Mark Christensen)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:01:54 GMT

In article <24996@dog.ee.lbl.gov> etjue@lbl.gov (Eric T. Jue) writes:
>I heard an interesting talk show on 7/27/92 concerning a new book titled
>"What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of the
>book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on the
>air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research has
>shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may survive
>up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist one.  It
>follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types of
>bodily fluids, including sweat, and not just through blood.  She mentions
>other interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
>intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
>clinincal research documentation done around the world.  Her book may be
>ordered by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard
>anything about Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this
>newsgroup.  Thank you very much.

I suspect you are referring to the John Ankerburg show.  Good
show.  Even the Center for Disease Control recognizes the true
seriousness of the AIDS virus but fails to truly warn people.
Safe sex is a myth.  It may decrease your chances somewhat, but
it certainly doesn't eliminate it.  Even open mouth kissing has
some risk.
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From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NON-AGENDA
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:17:17 GMT
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                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

In article <EGGERTJ.92Jul27233251@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
>In article <mL1koB8w165w@coriolis.UUCP> mitch@coriolis.UUCP (Mitch) writes:
>>   arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>>
>>   > Thank you for pointing out the obvious missing word.  Israel received
>>   > $5.5 billion last year out of a total foreign aid budget of $13.5 billion.
>>   > 
>>   > The only reason the total budget is $13.5 billion is because in order to
>>   > get Eqypt to Camp David we had to give them $1.5 billion and in order to 
>>   > get Israel to come, we had to guarnatee that Israel would always get more.
>>   > 
>>   > I am not sure which is the stupider way of getting peace, starting wars
>>   > or giving them money but sooner or later, we might notice the lack of
>>   > peace in our own country.
>>   > 
>>
>>   Of course, Egypt gets about $3 billion per year from the US, and got a 
>>   $6 billion bonus last year for not objecting to the Gulf War, but that's 
>>   probably just because they're puppets of the Zionist Conspiracy, right?
>
>If you read the Camp David accords, you will find out that very little
>of what they call for has actually happened.  In addition to the
>actual peace between Israel and Egypt, the Camp David agreement calls
>for a transitional Palestinian administration of the West Bank and
>Gaza.  The transitional period was to have lasted no more than five
>years, then full autonomy was to take place, pending Israeli,
>Egyptian, and Jordanian approval.
>
>Somehow, I think that the US was cheated on this deal.  We paid for a
>Palestinian state, and we didn't get one.  We ought to ask for our
>money back.

ARF says:

what is far worse is that we got another saber rattling, nuclear rattlesnake
for our efforts.

js
From: mikea@zorba.gvg.tek.com (Michael P. Anderson)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: DEC and Bush conspire?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:54:46 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA


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>From al@newslc1.gvg.tek.com Thu Jul 23 20:02:47 1992
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:02:42 PDT
From: al@newslc1.gvg.tek.com (Al Thorpe)
To: srm@newslc1.gvg.tek.com, al@newslc1.gvg.tek.com
Subject: DEC deal with Bush - comp.sys.dec #10495
Content-Length: 964

In article <QePQTee00WBOQ4jBQU@andrew.cmu.edu>, tw1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tse-Sung Wu) writes:
|> NOTE CROSS-POSTINGS--
|> 
|> I am not interested in a flame or even mildly heated debate about the
|> candidates.  I just have a rumor that I'd like to know if anyone could
|> confirm or deny.  I haven't seen anything posted on the net.  If I
|> missed something, please forgive the rehashing.
|> 
|> The daughter of a classmate of mine works at DEC somewhere and said that
|> it is common knowledge among DEC employees (the story is purportedly
|> floating about on DEC's email net) that a huge (30,000? employee) layoff
|> has been _postponed_ until after the election at the request of
|> President Bush.  And that the latter offered DEC hefty contracts in
|> return for the postponement.
|> 
|> Is this just a rumor, 'cause I haven't seen anything about this in the
|> papers.  Not interested in flames, just want to know if this is just a
|> rumor.
|> 
|> Tse-Sung


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Didn't DEC just post a huge loss that would justify such a layoff? Let's
get to the bottom of this, shall we?
								MPA
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