From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Mormonism
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:40:44 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec15.182918.62067@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes:
>In article <e8Aj02yw2ess01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>,
> agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>> farkas@qual.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>>>Anthony G Rose wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you meant that this is only a game to me, you are dead
>>>> wrong! Spiritually dead wrong!  My love for your soul makes me
>>>> dialog with you. We are instructed in Scripture to watch for
>>>> false prophets, to test all things, to study, and to contend for
>>>> the faith.
>>>
>>> I always find it interesting when an abusive father claims
>>> that he really loves his children. Sorry, your message is not
>>> love to me.
>> 
>> I understand that the things I say are not pleasing to your
>> ears.  But trust me, I would not spend the hours that I do every
>> day answering these posts and working with the local Mormons.  My
>> conviction is that we are in the last days, and that many Mormons
>> are lost because of the doctrines of the church.  That is my
>> reason for what I do.  That is out of love. You know, Jesus
>> didn't sound too much like love either when he said:
>> 
>> "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being
>> condemned to hell?"  (Matthew 23:33)
>> 
>> However, He WAS incarnate Love.
>
>Okay, Jesus was speaking to the scribes and Pharisees.  Let us
>see from the context what Tony is inferring about Mormons:
>
>Mormons:
>"Shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men: for they neither go in
>themselves, neither suffer they them that are entering to go in."
>(Matthew 23:13)
>
>"Devour widows houses" (Ibid, verse 14)
>
>"For a pretense make long prayer" (Ibid, verse 14)
>
>"Compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made,
>make him twofold more the child of hell than themselves." 
>(Ibid, verse 15) 
>
>"Pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the
>weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith"
>(Ibid, verse 23)
>
>"Strain out a gnat and swallow a camel" (Ibid, vers 24)
>
>"Clean the out side of the cup and of the platter, but within are
>full of extortion and excess" (Ibid, verse 25)
>
>"Are like unto whitewashed sepulchres, which indeed appear
>beatiful outward, baut are within full of dead men's bones and of
>all uncleanness," (Ibid, verse 27)
>
>"Outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within are full of
>hypocrisy and iniquity" (Ibid, verse 28)
>
>"Build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of
>the righteous" (Ibid, verse 29)
>
>"Kill, crucify, scourge, and persecute the prophets, wise men,
>and scribes" (Ibid, verse 34)
>
>
>Those are some preety strong claims, Tony.  What evedence
>(besides your own interpretation of things) do you have that this
>is, in fact, what Mormons promote?
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>Jason Hunsaker  -|-  Logan, Utah  -|-  Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu

Come on Jason, get real.  You can't tell me that you interpreted what I
said as to mean that I was iplying all these things on Mormons.

I was responding to the accusation that I didn't love Mormons for the sake
of Christ.  I used that example to show that sometimes people tells us
things that we don't necessarily _want_ to hear, and in doing so, it often
may _appear_ that it is not out of love, when the very fact that they
_are_ saying something is an act of love.  That was my implimentation of
using that passage.  It was to show that even though Jesus WAS love,
even He at times didn't appear to be too nice.  But he had to be that
way because he did love the people.  Remember when he went in and
ran all the merchants out and turned over tables?  That wasn't a nice
thing to do, but it _was_ an act of love.  THAT WAS MY POINT. Not any of
this garbage you have accused me of placing on Mormons.