From: dwf@doug.Eng.Sun.COM (Douglas W. Forehand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sparc10
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:28:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dwf@doug.Eng.Sun.COM
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In article 21667@cbnewsm.cb.att.com, trix@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (t.roger.kiang) writes:
>I'm in the process of buying a sparc10 for personal
>use.  Ideally, I like to buy the Sparc10 model 41,
>but was told that Sun is having problems with the
>super-cache on the model 41.  My VAR told me that
>I can either purchase a Sparc2 with a future upgrade
>of the mother-board when the super-cache is fixed, 

This is not quite correct. The SS10 mother board requires
a entirely new "pizza box". The upgrade path they may be
referring to is a trade in deal we were offerring a few
months ago. The deal was you by SS2 and when the SS10 is ready
you give back your SS2 SYSTEM and a check for the difference in 
system price; and Sun gives you a SS10. I do not know if that
offer is still good.

> or
>buy the Sparc10 model 20 with an upgrade that will
>consisting of mounting some small ciruit board
>in the future as an upgrade to model 41.  My VAR also
>told me that Sparc10 model 30 does not have an upgrade
>path to the super-cache. 

Not quite right here either.
See the enclosed note:

             **********  SPARCstation 10  Q1 Promotional System    *************
		 	   The Model 20 Limited Time Offer

Customer demand for SPARCstation 10 Models 30 and 41 has been great so far!
That demand however exceeds our Q1 supply and so we have made available a
promotional system - The SPARCstation 10 Model 20. This is a limited time
and limited quantity promotion. It gives you the opportunity to offer
customers a SPARCstation 10 immediately and at an attractive price. 

The Promotional Model 20 has a 33Mhz CPU with approximately 10% slower benchmark
performance than a Model 30 at a 10% lower price.  This performance is still 
approximately 2 times the performance of a SPARCstation 2. The system is fully 
capable of being upgraded to 40Mhz and faster systems.


You will find that a customer desiring a SPARCstation 10 Model 41 will pay a lower price
for the combination of the Model 20 Promotional system plus an upgrade module than
buying a Model 41.  Additionally, the customer gets the benefit of using a 
SPARCstation 10 right away.

This mail summarizes the SPARCstation 10 Model 20 promotion, pricing,
availability, etc. Some Questions and answers are included
to help with positioning the promotion

  ***********************************************************************
  *                                                                     *
  * Introducing a Promotional configuration of the SPARCstation 10      *
  *	the SPARCstation 10 Model 20, featuring:			*
  * 		o 33Mz SuperSPARC uniprocessor delivering ~2X		* 
  *			SPARCstation 2 performance			*
  *		o Priced 10% less than Model 30				*
  *		o $6500 Model 41 upgrade				*
  * 		o 19"G, 19"C, 16"C GX configurations offered.		*
  *		o Fully configured with 32MB memory, 424MB drives	*
  *									*
  * Estimated Performance:						*
  *	SPECint92	39.8						*	
  *     SPECfp92	46.6						*
  *     MIPS		77.5						*
  * 	Mflops (DP)      9.5						*
  *									*
  ***********************************************************************

The following marketing part numbers and U.S. List prices will
apply for the SPARCstation 10 Model 20:


                              Order             List     Discount  Same Day
Description                   Number            Price    Category  Service Price
================================================================================
SPARCstation 10 Model 20 (with ONE 33MHz SuperSPARC Processor)
------------------------

1 CPU, 32MB,                  S10MX-20-32-P43  $16,495      A         $ 65
GX w/19" Grayscale,
424MB internal SCSI disk,
Speakerbox, internal floppy

1 CPU, 32MB,                  S10FGX-20-32-P43 $17,495      A         $ 95
GX w/16" Color,
424MB internal SCSI disk,
Speakerbox, internal floppy

1 CPU, 32MB,                  S10GX-20-32-P43  $18,495      A         $ 95
GX w/19" Color,
424MB internal SCSI disk,
Speakerbox, internal floppy


Model 20 Upgrades to Model 41
-----------------------------
SPARCstation 10 Model 
20 module swap upgrade
to SPARCstation 10 Model 
41 with SuperCache		
			UG-M30-M41*	$6,500	  	A	$30

* Note: The Model 20 cannot be upgraded to a Model 30. It is upgradeable only
        to Model 41 and faster.

* Note: For the purposes of this promotion, the Model20-to-Model41 upgrade uses
        the same Order Number as the Model30-to-Model41 upgrade.
        This makes the Model 20 purchase an attractive purchase for customers
        who want a Model 41 but need SuperSPARC performance today and infact
	results in a lower price for the Model 41 compared to simply purchasing
	a Model 41.

================================================================================

Availability:  This is a limited promotion based on a 1 time supply of 
33MHz modules.  Availability is limited to the US, UK, Germany and France.

Questions and Answers:


Q: Why is Sun offering the SPARCstation 10 Model 20 Promotion?

A: Customer response to the SPARCstation 10 has been strong.
   We have had the opportunity to get access to modules which we can
   price attractively and offer the customer a great path to the Model 41 
   and faster. Thats why we are doing this promotion.
   
Q: Is the Promotional Model 20 any different from a Model 30?

A: The Model 20 is NO DIFFERENT from a Model 30 EXCEPT:
	o Model 20 uses a 33MHz SuperSPARC processor (36MHz for Model 30);
	  therefore benchmark performance is about 10% slower.
	o Model 20 DOES NOT support high end graphics (GXplus, GS or GT) SBus cards
	  These cards are supported once the system is upgraded to a Model 41 or
	  faster.
	o Model 20 has some ISDN limitations:
	  When using ISDN *AND* high-end audio together, 44.1KHz and 48KHz
	  audio are NOT supported. These capabilities are supported when
	  the system is upgraded to Model 41 or faster.

Note the same SBus card limitations as on SPARCstation 10 model 30, and 41
apply to the model 20:

   SBus cards NOT supported on *ANY* SPARCstation 10:
	- SBus Ethernet cards (X450A, X453A)
	- SBus cards with "tall" one-piece backplate
   SBus cards NOT supoorted on MOdel 20 and Model 30
	- High Speed Serial Interface (X1009A) rev 3 or earlier
	- Serial Parallel Controller (X1008A) rev 4 or earlier
	- SBus 2-slot GX accelerator cards

Q: What does it take to upgrade from a Promotional Model 20 to a Model 41?

A: Order UG-M30-M41;  
   Upgrading to a Model 41 is as simple as moving a jumper and swapping
   the CPU (MBus) module. The Model 20 motherboard has two crystals:
   one 33MHz and one 40MHz crystal. Moving the jumper simply selects the
   appropriate crystal. 

   Once the system is upgraded, it can accomodate faster modules which
   we will be continually introducing for the system.

Q: Can a Model 20 be upgraded to a Model 30?

A: No. You can however upgrade to Model 41 or faster.

Q: How long will the Promotion extend?

A: The Promotional Model 20 will be offered for a limited time through
   September 30, 1992.