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From: swenson.rtsg.mot.com (R. Scott Swenson)
Subject: BOXSCORE - dal19hou20.19dec92
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:07:05 GMT

dal 93, hou 112   19dec92

  Total minutes did not match.  Horry was listed as 19 minutes
    but is believed to have had 29

dal ( 2-17)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
davis,terry       38   8  12   0  0   2  3   3 11   2  3  0  3  1  0  0  0   18
smith,doug        34  12  19   0  0   3  3   1  7   0  5  1  2  0  0  0  0   27
hodge,donald      19   1   8   0  0   1  1   1  4   0  2  2  2  0  0  0  0    3
harper,derek      35   8  14   1  4   5  7   0  2   3  1  2  1  0  0  0  0   22
iuzzolino,mike    33   1   6   0  1   0  1   1  3   9  1  0  2  0  0  0  0    2
bond,walter       24   1  10   0  0   6  6   3  5   3  3  0  4  1  0  0  1    8
white,randy       14   0   3   0  1   1  2   2  4   0  3  0  2  0  0  0  0    1
howard,brian      25   3   9   0  0   0  0   1  4   2  3  1  1  1  0  0  0    6
moore,tracy        6   1   4   0  1   0  0   0  0   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
curcic,radisav     4   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
bardo,stephen      4   1   1   0  0   0  0   0  2   1  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    2
palmer,walter      4   1   2   0  0   0  0   0  2   0  0  0  1  1  0  0  0    2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
dal totals       240  37  88   1  7  18 23  12 45  21 23  6 19  4  0  0  1   93
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .420   .143   .783       team rebs  7

hou (13- 7)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
horry,robert      29   4   8   0  1   3  3   2  6   1  4  0  2  1  0  0  0   11
thorpe,otis       32   7   9   0  0   4  9   4 10   5  1  0  1  0  0  0  0   18
olajuwon,hakeem   34   7  19   0  0   4  4   2 12   2  3  1  4  4  0  0  0   18
maxwell,vernon    28   5  14   1  5   3  4   0  6   4  2  3  3  0  0  0  0   14
smith,kenny       25   2   5   0  1   1  2   0  0   4  2  1  0  0  0  0  0    5
brooks,scott      18   5   7   2  3   4  4   1  2   3  3  2  1  0  0  0  0   16
bullard,matt      19   3   5   1  2   0  0   2  2   1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    7
herrera,carl      26   4  10   0  0   2  2   3  8   1  3  3  1  0  0  0  0   10
floyd,sleepy      20   2   9   0  2   5  6   0  3   5  3  1  1  0  0  0  0    9
garland,winston    5   1   2   0  1   2  2   0  0   0  0  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
acres,mark         4   0   2   0  0   0  0   1  2   0  1  0  1  0  0  0  1    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hou totals       240  40  90   4 15  28 36  15 51  26 23 12 15  5  0  0  1  112
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .444   .267   .778       team rebs 11

dal   27  26  20  20  -   93
hou   31  26  26  29  -  112

attendance 11426, time 2:01, officials: PMihalak,BDelaney,GToliver

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: Jordan & Pippen: No Olympics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:04:15 GMT

nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.082246.20057@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso) writes:
>>It is stated in the Chicago Tribune this morning, that playing in the
>>Olympics really have hurt the Bulls this year.  Jordan claims he has 
>>been very fatigued and cohesiveness of the team has been damaged. 
>>Pippen agreed, also claiming his tendinitis is from overuse.  They both
>>said it was a great experience to meet and play with the Dream Team,
>>but if they had a choice again, no matter how much pressure, they 
>>wouldn't have gone.  In the long run, it will hurt the team, they 
>>claimed.
>>Christopher Gattuso

>well...isnt that special.  sounds like a couple of whiners digging
>pretty deep to find the cause of the Chicago flatness to me.

I'd like to see you call Pippen and/or Jordan "whiners" to their faces.
You have no concept how hard they work.  NONE.  No concept how grueling
a season they already have to put in.  100+ games, practices every day,
playing against the best basketball players in the world, day in and
day out (some of whom apparently are out to injure you after watching
the NY and Detroit games the last few years).  Jordan's work ethic is
legendary.  The reason they're stating their aversion to doing it all
again is because of the negative affect it's had on their TEAM, the
Bulls organization.  I consider this resposible conscientiousness a
'good thing.'  An ignorant statement like that makes me just want to
pimp-slap you.

-Dan
From: kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: La Lakers
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:16:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


In article <1h53j3INNenj@news.aero.org>, robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
|> I was out of town for the Disaster in Dallas, and I mis-programmed
|> my VCR  :-(     It's DISGRACEFUL that they lost, and I HOPE that
|> Pfund REALLY let them have it afterwards. Hell, I hope he let them
|> have it DURING the game........

He doesn't look as forceful as Riles, but I hope he was tough on them, I
mean being a new coach, etc., he may have held off a little, but he's been
with the Lakers now long enough to be able to yell at them and get them
to listen.

|> 
|> The murdering by Phoenix is easier to take.......a bit. I mean,
|> the Suns are currently the best team in the league (it is
|> FRIGHTENING to think how they'll play when KJ returns), but
|> the Lakers were PATHETIC and should have made a better showing.
|> 
|> Hopefully the win at Denver signals a return to form.....
|> 
|> 		R.S.


I cannot accept the shellacking by the Suns.  Like Chick said during the
game, "Get some people in there who want to play."  Vlade was lethargic,
Peeler was hesitant, James was his usual off-form self, and that really
showed in the first half.  The intensity picked up in the second, and things
did get a lot better, but hey they lost the game in the first quarter.  I
didn't really expect them to beat the Suns.  It's too early in the season to
expect that.  But to be down by 25 points.  Not when they've shown up-tempo
play against all the good teams in the league.

The win at Denver was as nail-biting as to be painful.  Come on, the Lakers
should do a lot better than that.  You know it.  That's what Scott is good
for.  A steadying influence when James is shaky.  Of course, you are a Scott-
hater, so you wouldn't understand :)

-Vach
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: kolli@seas.gwu.edu (Chakravarthy Kolli)
Subject: Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:25:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.045134.54375@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

>
>Go ahead, give 'em the ring and make things easy on the rest of the league.
>The Suns are going to roll this year.  
>
>Can anyone beat them??  The Bulls, no.  The Knicks... No.  The Blazers, yeah
>right..  The Jazz..  not this year...
>
>It should be obvious, the Suns just have the talent this year...
>
>-- 

I agree. But, If the Bulls make it past the Knicks, it may not be
easy for the Suns. Remember, early in the season, Bulls beat Phoenix
in Phoenix and KJ played that game. Day in and day out, Phoenix
doesnot encounter the suffocating defense that I think is more
prominent in the Eastern conference.

chak kolli


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: NBA Franchises in 1949-50
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:18:16 GMT

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami) writes:

>--Gidi	(Go Rosenblooms!)

Shouldn't that be "Rosenblooms in Three!"?
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: kolli@seas.gwu.edu (Chakravarthy Kolli)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:38:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.171334.27112@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Dec24.092903.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>>
>>  Just saw the footage of last nights Pistons vs. Hornets game, screw the
>>  basketball,I liked the fight better.Allthough it never came to blows,it
>>  had the potential of being the greatest bout since
>
>ah yes...bill baits and hooks another newcomer....
>
>- nate


bill should be playing hockey. He will be a hero on the evening
newscasts


chak kolli
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Indoor Fields in NJ
Originator: sew@condor
Reply-To: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:47:40 GMT


In article <1992Dec21.223438.8095@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, bru@cc.bellcore.com (25815-leary) writes:
|> Does anyone know if there is in fact an indoor paintball field in
|> Garfied , NJ ....... or anywhere else in the NJ/NY metro area, for that matter.
|> 
|> *****************************************************************
|> *Bruce								*
|> *------								*
|> *bru@cc.bellcore.com    					*
|> *								*
|> *(The opinions expressed herein are solely those of Bruce Leary)*
|> *****************************************************************

 I've heard of one in northern NJ. I think I saw an ad in paintball
 news a while back. 

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From: cb401@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William Scott Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: For Sale: Pirana LB
Date: 2 Jan 1993 06:02:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cb401@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William Scott Carlson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


For Sale or maybe trade:

One ancient Pirana Long Barrel. 
Complete with sight rail collar, Cooper-T backbottle velocity adjuster,
Daisy Lighted Point Sight and of course, one good trigger shoe.
Used the gun semi activily for about 2 years.
Excellent condition, pumps as smooth as silk.
7 oz backbottle included.

$200. At least.

Or, I am interested in trading for three or four Crossman 3357's
depending on condition and such.
E-mail to above address.


FIRST POST! Hiya all!


-- 
William Scott Carlson             cb401@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Battle Tech Player, Paintballer, and Honorable Gentleman.
Alias Kael at bbs.isca.uiowa.edu...come on in and visit.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Paintballs w/o paint?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:13:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.010111.21968@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum) writes:
>In article <D91-POO.92Dec23211336@dront.nada.kth.se> d91-poo@dront.nada.kth.se
>(Per-Ola Orvendal) writes:
>>Sounds a bit absurd, but I'm actually looking for some "paintballs"
>>that do *not* contain any paint, but that can be used by regular
>>paintball guns.  When we play in small groups, we usually only regard
>>a direct hit as a hit (and you *usually* feel those ones! ;-), and it
>>*would* be nice to have balls that does not mess up your gun when
>>something goes wrong...
>>
>>Anyone heard of anything like that?
>>
>
>I think you would find that they would be MUCH too light. Their range couldn't 
>be far enough to snipe anyone, let alone through brush.
>
>RE: New paint
>
>I just talked to a guy that says he saw an advertisement for some new paint 
>where they were close to one dollar a PIECE! They came with a tool to load 
>them, because they had to be loaded from the front of the barrel, muzzle loader
>style. I'm not sure about the promises the manufacturer has come up with, but 
>it supposed have 175% range of a normal ball plus big time accuracy 
>improvements.
>I can't back his story up, but this paint + a Sniper II == Hozer Hell. =)
>
>I don't see myself buying too much of this at that price if it comes out on the
>market, but I'm sure picking  someone off at about 75 or 80 yards might be 
>worth a few bucks. =)
>
>Aaron

Yes, there are ads in the last few APG magazines.  Evidently, someone has
stuck/glued/attached little tail fins to a paintball.  Kinda looks like one
of the WWII atom bombs. ^_^;  Kinda steep pricing though...and muzzle
loaded too.  Must be good for those "Civil War" type games.
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From: cm601@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradley Alexander Derrick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: need info
Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:36:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cm601@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradley Alexander Derrick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, yyjdb@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JOHN BURKETT) says:

>Hey there,
>Are there any indoor paintball fields near Cleveland?
>I heard there was one in an old warehouse near the flats.
>Tanks.

	If you find out can you e-mail me?  I hear there are a couple
stores around the area also..

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From: dwj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID W. JONES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Games in the Snow
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:42:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <18802@mindlink.bc.ca>, Gary_Ponting@mindlink.bc.ca (Gary Ponting) wr
ites:
>Has anybody got any fields near them that provide games in the snow. I would
>imagine they would be quite entertaining providing that the proper camo was
>available. I can see the first game where you come across some fresh tracks
>and start stalking your enemy. I think they would be quite entertaining.
>
>Later<>Gary
>
Adventure World in New Milford, Pennsylvania, plays all year. I spoke
to Mike last night and he said that they have been getting groups of
about twenty five to come and play. They got a good dose of snow in
the last few weeks. My club is planning a trip in January. They can
accomodate large groups (717-465-7007).
-- 

David W. Jones
Network Coordinator/Telecommunications
Lehigh University (215-758-6990)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Smart Parts Barrel??????
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:12:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.135241.9068@philabs.philips.com> sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec18.182447.29900@netcom.com>, albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec18.001419.5662@panix.com> henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Dec17.183241.515@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>|> >B
>|> >>Heh, I suppose the dialogue at the department store would go something like
>|> >>this...
>|> >>
>|> >>me: I'm looking for some bath oil beads...
>|> >>salesperson: We have them in many sizes, what size do you need?
>|> >>me: Uhhhh...68 caliber...?
>|> >>
>|> >Hmm, think people would look at me strange if I walked into Victoria's Secret or
>|> >the Body Works and head straight for the bath oil beads section with a 16"
>|> >rifled barrel in my hands?  Unlike the mess created by broken paintballs you're
>|> >gun gets cleaner with every bad shot.  (^-^)
>|> 
>|> Imagine what the field would smell like if everyone was shooting those bath
>|> oil beads... "Gee, it doesn't smell like a forest anymore" ^_^
>|> 
>|> -- 
>
>   so , instead of colors, we choose scents? 
>
>   We would all smell like the perfume section of Macys! peeeeeeeeeeee-uuuuuuuuuu

nd for those poor souls with allergies...if the ragweed doesn't get
you...all that perfume will knock you flat. ^O^
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From: gt1158@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: OAKLAND, CA  Indoor P-B!!!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:14:28 PST
Organization: BBS




This is basically a notice/question to those of you whom live in the San
Francisco Bay Area. Specifically the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley);



     A good friend and I have have been seriously considering opening an indoor
Paintball Field in Oakland due to the sufficient amount of abandoned
wharehouses along the freeways. But before we venture into this "expedition",
we would like to get feedback from the locals.
     The field will be located in a three story building, each level roughly 80
yds. X 100 yds. We figure that the bottom level will serve as the parking lot,
registration booth and break area. Each field/floor will be a different
scenario along with music system (Don't expect a concert sound system), strobe
lighting on one floor, and complete safety/dead-zone area. The field will be
run by our team (FIRESTORM), and will deffinately be I.P.P.A. certified.  We
were thinking of offering Trracers and a few PMI-3's. Plenty of cover on both
levels. And since they are bigger than some outdoor fields, we may even lay
some sod on one of the fields.
     If we decide to open it, we figure a $15/day rate $20 w/ Trracer, and $25
w/ PMI-3. Field Paint only  ranging from $6/100 for generic to $9/100 premium.
FPS will be 230-250.  Group discounts offered of course. and first two weeks,
all IPPA members play FREE!!!!!
     Anyway, the field may see its openning day in June. An we want to know if
you locals will support it. The more feedback we get, the more likely we are to
open it. As of now, we are considering an abandoned parking lot in Oakland
along I-880, about 3-4 blocks from off-ramp. So please, if you live in the
Bay-Area, either e-mail me or post your thoughts. Those of you that do will
recieve a *gift* if do open it. Thank you all very much for taking the time to
read this. 

May the Force be with you...



        KEEP
              THOSE
                     BALLS
                            FLYING!!!



LONG LIVE THE PRO/AM!!!!!
From: d91-poo@dront.nada.kth.se (Per-Ola Orvendal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintballs w/o paint?
Date: 31 Dec 92 09:45:05 GMT
	<ejimenez.301p@terapin.com>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <ejimenez.301p@terapin.com> ejimenez@terapin.com (Eduardo Jimenez)
writes:

   Jason Hyerstay writes:

   >What about clear, water filled paintballs, sinc the object was not to get
   >too messy...

   Yeah, it will stop the goo. But if you break a ball, your next shot will
   still spin. I don't think these new balls know the difference between paint
   in the barrel or water in the barrel. Dunno, just my thought. :-)

Well, the whole thing would be that the pain(t)balls WOULDN'T break - the
shell would be too tough for that.  What's actually IN the balls wouldn't
really matter then, would it?  Naturally, it's good if the balls are
bio-degradable and all that stuff too...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: kovar@world.std.com (David C Kovar)
Subject: Sights - are they really worth it?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:46:10 GMT

  I've seen a number of different sights advertized, from $18 - $130. Are
they really worth the cost and, if so, which ones are particularly useful?
None of the price lists provide any details on the sights, so it's hard
to tell what you're getting. For example, I suspect one of them actually
projects a sighting dot. Can you really see one of these through goggles
in the day time? Is that sort of sight accuracy really useful? It might
be intimidating as all hell.... How easy are these to mount on your gun?
TIA.

-David
From: eapu187@orion.oac.uci.edu (Odin Lillegraven Ortega)
Subject: Re: Paintballs w/o paint?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:09:26 GMT

In article <ejimenez.301p@terapin.com> ejimenez@terapin.com (Eduardo Jimenez) writes:
>Jason Hyerstay writes:
>
>>What about clear, water filled paintballs, sinc the object was not to get too
>>messy...
>
>Yeah, it will stop the goo. But if you break a ball, your next shot will still
>spin. I don't think these new balls know the difference between paint in the
>barrel or water in the barrel. Dunno, just my thought. :-)
>
True, but even the empty gelatin casings would break further balls.  No goo,
though.  I suppose the casings would be easier to wipe than the paint, but
it still might require a squeegee.  Just _my_ thought. ;-}

Chris 


Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: aktan@mothra.syr.EDU (Andre Kian-An Tan)
Subject: Re: A New Paint
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 02:32:05 EST

In article <1992Dec17.161129.7281@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> tblackma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Marauder) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.135554.18534@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com writes:
>>
>>I was speaking to the folks at Air Gun Designs re barrel lengths
>>and discovered that they (or someone they are very closely
>>associated with) will be coming out with a new (revolutionary if
>>it does what they say) type of paintball.  It will be 99% round and
>>will NOT be affected by moisture.  They advertise it in the bottom
>>of a fish bowl. 
> 
>I have talked with them and they said they werre working on a paintball
>with a plastic biodegradable shell.  This gives them the ability to
>make as perfect a paintball, because the shell will be the same thickness
>and size in each case.  The shell will supposedly biodegrade from sunlight.
>
>

    I believe you guys are talking about "Perfect Circle" paintballs...  I
think that they're supposed to come out late next ye.....  Personally,
I find it hard to believe that they won't be affected by moisture at all,
but if even if they are slightly more resistant, I think that they would be
a plus... especially for semi users and the problems with condensation they
might run into.

 - Andre


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		              a hole is a danish..." 
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