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From: jas8@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Jeff Spirko)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Info on Trident 32-bit WINOS2 drivers.
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:10:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I just found out some interesting information on the new Trident 32-bit
drivers.  Most of you have probably noticed that there are 4 files in the
WINOS2 directory of the archive. (tri32new.exe)  There is no information on
what the difference is between the two sets.

I have found the difference.

        wspdbf.drv      Full-screen with big "stuff"
        wspdsbf.drv     Seamless with big "stuff"

        wspdsf.drv      Full-screen with small "stuff"
        wspdssf.drv     Seamless with small "stuff"

By "stuff", I mean buttons, menus, and other system-scaled objects.  For
instance.  Running Word for Windows with the 'bf' drivers and 800x600, the
button bar is too wide for the screen, and the last button or two is off the
edge.  Using the 'sf' drivers makes the buttons smaller, as well as the title
bar, the minimize/maximize buttons, etc.  I think a good rule might be to use
the 'sf' drivers for 640x480 and 800x600, and the 'bf' drivers for 1024x768.

If anyone has more information on the differences between these drivers, let
me know or post.

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From: steuer@clam.rutgers.edu (robert Steuer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Will Chinon SCSI CD-ROM work under OS/2?
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:53:42 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Treasure Chest Computers has a Chinon CD-ROM SCSI interface with the
SCSI card for $349 internal and it is MPC compliant.  Will this
automatically work under OS/2 since it is SCSI.  I know the non-SCSI's
only work in a VDM, but would this CD-ROM still need a driver or will
it just work without any problems since it is SCSI under OS/2 2.0?
Thanks in advance for all help.(I am trying to get an affordable
CD-ROM...)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: XGA-2 Clarification
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:55:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.063416.3786@ultb.isc.rit.edu>,
jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu wrote:
> 
> For those of you who I misled...
> The ISA XGA-2 board will cost $499
> 
> The MCA XGA-2 board will cost $399.
> 
> If you can justify why a 32-bit card costs LESS than a 16-bit,
> you will have my compliments, as well as the rest of the Microelectronics
> Department here....
> 
> The cost difference is due to IBM, not Radius.

Not necessarily.  The cost difference may be due to the bus master
technology for the ISA bus.  Remember, the Microchannel bus DIRECTLY
supports bus mastering.  I didn't even think that bus mastering was
possible on the ISA bus but it looks like Radius figured out how to do it. 
I suspect part of the cost may be related to this.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
Subject: OS/2 & Dos 5.0 floppy problem
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:37:43 GMT

Ok...  Here's a problem for all you OS/2 gurus out there...

Everytime I go to my DOS 5.0 partition (via Boot Manager) and format
a disk using DOS 5.0 (format a: /f:1440 /u) it works fine.  Then when
I try to dir the disk I just formatted, I get a general failure reading
drive A: error.  But if I go to OS/2 and try to read the same disk, it
works fine.  OS/2 can read and write to these disks no problem but DOS
can't!!!  DOS always gives the general failure error when OS/2 reads
them.

I first considered hardware error, but why then can OS/2 read these
disks?  Hardware should fail under both OS's should it not?  Did OS2
do something to my DOS ???  HELP!!!

I have a 386-40 3486 Upgradeable mothedboard with Forex chipset & AMI
BIOS with 8MB.

Any help would certainly be appreciated!

- Eric


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve)
Subject: Re: Some News from Corporate Computing
Keywords: A Ziff-Davis Publication
Organization: University of Bonn, phys. Chemistry
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:22:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.195101.28391@cbfsb.cb.att.com> feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:
>Here are some excerpts of a piece by Robert Ziff which he
>entitles "The Power of Standards" in the Dec. '91 issue:
>........................
[article deleted]
>
>How about that?  He has established a moving target standard and
>he doesn't even care if it is any good.  
Well yes. And he has written this *before* OS/2 was generally
available. And he didn't even mention how Windoze *became* a standard:
Micro$oft a sort of multitasker for DOS plus GUI. And people bought it
because they saw, that this was better than DOS alone (and it could
not be worse than DOS alone as you can always leave Winoze... -- and
there is nothing worse than DOS alone... ;-)

So *maybe* OS/2 becomes the standard and future versions of Windoze
will be a flop, as they are not OS/2 compatible (and Micro$oft doesn't
own the source code of the then-current OS/2 version ;-)...

>Are things this bad in
>the PC media?  Have they bought NT hook, line and sinker and
>don't tell them about anything better?  Microsoft will have an
>easy time of it if this is any indication of the mindset.
Don't expect a secretary to judge an OS for it's technical qualities
-- and her chief might even make *her* responsible for the oh so often
crashes... :-(

-- 
				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: New 32 Trident & NEC 4FG Interlaced???
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:19:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, kbwilson@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu () says:

>Hello Net,
>	I heard about the great new Trident drivers so I rushed to my
>place of employment and grabbed a New 1 Meg trident card off the shelf
>With the owners permission of course.  Ran home and replaced the old VGA
>card in my system ( I was waiting for the back ordered ULtra Plus') installed
>the driver twice (I goofed something the first time) and they worked.
>My monitor is a NEC 4FG and it looked like it was running in 1024x768x256
>interlaced.  So I resorted to the Card manual AHH a jumper so I removed the
>jumper per the instructions and Started everything up again and everything
>stayed the same (an interlaced flicker like look).
>	I tried the 800x600x256 the monitor picked up the change but it still
>looked interlaced.  last I tried the 640x480x256 and this seemed non-interlaced
>
>Does anyone have any idea how to make this flicker go away?

It sounds like you made your svgadata file while the jumper was on the
card.  Try making a new svgadata file that will know that the jumper 
was removed.  It worked for me with the old trident drivers.
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Playing CD's through a SB
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:51:22 GMT

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz wrote:

> If you have CD drivers that can be installed in MMPM/2...you should be able to
> get the sound, too.

I am not sure I know what you mean. I have MMPM playing CD's but only out
of the CD's earphone socket. I have installed the SoundBlaster drivers and
now I can play WAV and MID files through the SB but can't work out how to
play CD's out of the SB.

> -- 
> Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
> withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
> **** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: lauer@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Thomas Lauer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Screen savers
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:17:48 GMT
Reply-To: lauer@mpi-sb.mpg.de
Organization: Max-Planck Institut fuer Informatik


 Try YOWA or DESKPIC.
  I find  Yowa the better ScreenSaver.

 -thomas

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: uucp programs for Os/2 2.0, Trident 32bit drivers,
Keywords: uucp help info program
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:23:03 GMT

hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:

>bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>>What is meant by "seamless" in the context of OS/2?
>You can run Win apps in a full-screen session, or, with the right
>video support, you can get them to run on the WPS desktop, which
>is known as "seamless" - ie. no indication that it is a Win app,
>since it is running as a PM app would (visually speaking).

OK.  I have "migrated" several Win/3.1 apps to the WPS desktop,
and they appear in the "Windows Applications" box.  I can run them, but
at least one (wp5.1/win) runs full-screen.  So what you're saying is that
if it could run in a window, it would be "seamless"?

Sounds neat..

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: where should SET name=thing go?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:59:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

In article <Bz8HIA.B9M@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:
>From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
>Subject: where should SET name=thing go?
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:20:34 GMT
>The online docs say that SET commands should go in the CONFIG.SYS file,
>(unlike under DOS), but there are still several in the AUTOEXEC.BAT
>created by the installation. Does it matter?
>
>John Calvert
>calvert@mast.queensu.ca

Depends on what you need to see the commands in. Put them in autoexec for 
DOS windows and in config.sys for OS/2 windows.

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From: SPGJAF@CMSA.Berkeley.Edu (Joseph A. Faracchio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: rexx procedure   Help needed!
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:48:53 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley (TCPIP)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmsa.berkeley.edu


 
Another excellent book on Rexx after Colishaw's is:
 
           Programming in Rexx    by    Charles Daney
           ISBN 0-070015305-1   McGraw-Hill.
 
Charles is the co-author of Mansfield's Rexx for DOS call Personal Rexx and
is the author of the Quercus' non-IBM REXX for OS/2 also called Personal Rexx.
 
Be sure to get the 2nd Edition of The Rexx Language by M. Colishaw
because it is what OS/2's version is based on.  (1st edition is where VM
Rexx started out)
 
IBM offers two OS/2 manuals on Rexx but I believe they are printed versions
of what is online in the installed system.
              Hope this helps.
                         cheers .. joe.f.
 
SPGJAF @ CMSA.Berkeley.Edu    also ... USUCA886 @ IBMMAIL via x.400
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:42:38 GMT

stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:

>In article <95004@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rbotimer@max.ct.gmr.com (R Douglas Botimer) writes:
>>CompuServe is on Internet.  Don't have the details here, but you can send mail  
>>to CompuServe subscribers via Internet (without having an account yourself).   
>>I'll post the detail as soon as I find them.

>That's what I did (send to xxxxx.xxx@compuserve.com). That used to be OK, but
>they will now only accept reports from Compuserve IDs.

>Richard Stanton

No problem. Send your problem reports to me, I will relay them to CI$
(just be forgiving of a week delay while I let them queue up). 
For every trivial problem there is a trivial solution.

                                                 [sam]
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Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Boot Manager Problem / alternatives?
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:59:18 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <ricky.724260979@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> ricky@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr RS Mcconachy) writes:
>I installed the Boot Manager as the 1st thing on the disk, a 250M HPFS
>primary partition for OS/2, and a 73M primary partition for DOS (yep,
>that's the whole disk, the 340M is actually 340,000,000 bytes :-).  I
>added the 2 primary partitions to Boot Manager's menu and proceeded as
>the docs suggest.  All is now cool except that when I boot the system
>I get offerred THREE choices!?  The two I want ("DOS 5.0" and "OS/2 2.0")
>aswell as one called "000001c7" which I know nothing about.....  I have
>tried deleting and reinstalling the Boot Manager partition, and then the
>entire HD to no avail.  If I choose this 3rd option I get a non-system
>disk type error.  Anybody got any ideas on how to kill off this option?

You'd probably get more use out of your system if you set up the 73M primary
as your first partition, then made the 250M HPFS as a LOGICAL drive, and
then put the boot manager at the end.  Even better, make a 200MB HPFS and a
50MB HPFS.  Put OS/2 on the 50M, and your other data on the 200.  That
allows you to re-format your install partition without having to back up
your data (folks who play with beta OS/2 need this!).  If you make all but
your DOS drive LOGICAL, you can always see them.  Any program on your DOS
drive wouldn't be available under OS/2, unless you let OS/2 boot from a
LOGICAL.
 
Now, about your problem - it sounds like you've got an extra partition
marked bootable.  Could you redirect the output of FDISK /QUERY to a file
and send that to me?  I'd like to know what your partition table looks like.
 
  -- "The OS/2 Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Another Internal Processing Error
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:01:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.104515.15805@rcvie.co.at> cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul) writes:
> Three times during the last couple of weeks my system crashed with
> the following error message. One during the night, with no activity at
> all, and twice while I was working. Before I call IBM Tech Support
> I was wondering if anyone can identify the problem for me:
> 
>      The system detected an internal processing
>      error at location ##0160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f
>      60000, 9084
>      CPS: Extent not found.
>      038600d1
>      Internal revision 6.307, 92/03/01
> 
> This is OS2 2.0 GA without the service pack, but with the new kernel
> file which has been available on hobbes for some time.

Try the UHPFS.ZIP fix for the CPS: extent not found problem. It was released
after the Service pack, but works with either the SP or the GA versions of
OS/2.
 
Follow the instructions carefully.
 
Steve
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From: emh@dlogics.com (Ed Hovorka)
Subject: Re: Some News from Corporate Computing
Organization: Datalogics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:16:03 GMT
Keywords: A Ziff-Davis Publication

feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:

>Here are some excerpts of a piece by Robert Ziff which he
>entitles "The Power of Standards" in the Dec. '91 issue:
>........................

>The Prognosis for OS/2.

>The Windows standard isn't standing still; it's evolving, as are
It's "evolving" only so its users have to buy new software because it's
not backward compatable.  Money grubbing @#$%^@!


>And Windows 4.0 [...] NT [...]
More vaporware :)

>Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Not booting from floppy (was: SHIFTRUN)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:38:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <1992Dec9.180651.8661@networx.com> mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere) writes:

>Booting from floppy over-and-over-and-over-and-over while messing with
>those damn Trident drivers wasted (I kid you not) several hours all told
>waiting for that damn slow floppy, and swapping disks.  (I had to boot
>from floppy several dozen times over several weeks before I figured out
>that Selective Install had buggered a device= statement in my config.sys).

The more I think of it, the more I like a solution other than a glacial 
floppy that I first saw proposed here by Joe Emenaker: install Boot Manager, 
install whatever other partitions you like, and install a 2Mb partition as 
an OS/2 repair tool: it wouldn't need any more space than a floppy (although 
you could make it any size you desired), could support HPFS maintenance, and 
would doubtless boot in a twinkle.

I have Joe's instructions archived if anyone's interested. If ever I get a 
chance to reformat and reinstall, I'll be giving this a go!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: timbol@netcom.com (Mike Timbol)
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 for OS/2 will >not< release this month
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:50:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.100733.8949@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> pendrith@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Pendrith) writes:
>sorry if this sounds like an advocacy post. it *is* something i feel strongly 
>about tho. i've sworn off Borland compilers for life simply because they
>wont't publish a known bug list.

I know this is relatively unrelated to OS/2 (except that Borland is
working on an OS/2 version of their C++ compiler), but Borland *does*
publish a known bug list for their compilers.  I suppose you could call
their Tech Support line if you wanted some information about it.

>- Mark Pendrith

     - Mike
From: lee@tosspot.sv.com (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Selective Install Problem
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:38:25 GMT
Organization: Ludus Associates, Incorporated.

Hi!
   (I used to know the answr to this one, but....)

Just changed mice on my system from a Logitech Mouseman Bus mouse to
a Logitech Mouseman Serial mouse.  Did the slsective install.

Of course, it didn't work. Now I get the line about the config.sys file
appearing when I boot and no mouse control.

...now what was the fix on this one??


Please email me as well as posting??

                          Regards,
                                  Lee   (lee@tosspot.sv.com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kspousta@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Kevin Spousta)
Subject: Re: AHA154x with more than 5M/s ???
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:19:28 GMT

pott@tun.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ruediger Pott) writes:



>Hi all!

>Has anyone experiences with using AHA1542B with a transfer speed
>greater than 5M/sec ???

Are you speaking of DMA transfer speed?  I know I can't run any faster than 5.0mb/sec DMA transfer speed with my Fujitsu 650m SCSI drive..  Something about the
timing on the drive...  I've got the thing configured for SCSI-2 operation (The internal port on the Adaptec does NOT support SCSI-2) off the external port and my latest tests with a HyperDisk 2m cache show me pumpin' data at well over 7m/minute..


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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:02:42 GMT

>
>I understand putting in new memory might solve the problem, but I am still
>trying to figure out what kind of memory I should install. I can not simply ask
>for working SIMMS, because they will tell me the memory works. But it might
>not in OS/2. My problem is I can't ask for memory that "works," they will tell 
>me it does. And so II can't xchange my "faulty" memory for some new memory
>(which I wont know about OS/2 compatibility either) without having to pay for the
>new memory.

While I understand your concern, you kind of just have to "risk it".  The point
is that I personally have never bought a bad SIMM module.  I have seen bad
modules in a number of machines, but they are definitely the exception rather
than the rule...
>
>So does anyone know what specifications or whatever I should look for?
>I am a	already following the basic rules of not mixing chip numbers and 
>different speed modules. Maybe if can point out that such and such type of 
>memory works and the memory I received doesn't, they may exchange it. 
>
If you've got a 486/33 or better go for 70ns rams (if 50 then you could get
60 also, although it's not really necessary...I use 70s in my 486/50).  Buy
them from a place that guarantees them and tell them you are running OS/2.
It is no secret that multitasking OSs excersize your RAM pretty hard...even
Windows has been known to be an uncoverer of faulty ram chips, so its 
really no big deal.  Normally if you tell the people you're buying from that
you are getting parity errors, they'll believe you.  

The bottom line is, don't worry about it.  Just buy RAM that is fast enough
and make sure they have a guarantee (I have seen a number of chip dealers
that offer lifetime warantees so this is no biggy).

Good luck...

Al


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