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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Now I have gone and done it....
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:24:55 EST
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

As someone who has been interested in the amiga for many years, but who, for
many reasons, never owned one, I have just taken the plunge.  My reasons:

    1.  I produce radio and TV shows for world wide distribution
    2.  I needed a new toy for XMAS
    3.  I got a really good deal on a 2500 system with some nice peripherals

The machine will arrive in Early January.  Meanwhile, I, who know only DOS,
NOVELL and UNIX, and have been doing my video titling on a SONY CPM machine,
now must get up to speed on just what makes this new box tick.

One reason I delayed getting an amiga is the religious fanaticism I have seen
amongst the "Meegaheads" on the net and elsewhere.  I work with many
different computer systems every day.  I will even admit here publicly that I
still own and use a VIC-20 (As a video slate generator so I can record audio
from my satellite system onto videotape even if the channel is scrambled)...
So I don't think I will become one of those who loses all perspective (as the
fanatical adherents of ANY machine when it is the only thing they own)...

I therefore need to know if there is an FAQ for the AMIGA, and if there is,
can I access it by mail?  I am at this moment daunted by the fact that I do
not know what in the heck an AGNUS, DENISE or GARY chip is...  I don't even
know what screen resolutions are supported by the machine I am buying.  Like
what does HAM mean (besides the sandwich I just ate here at work)...

I did buy this month's AMAZING COMPUTING and AMIGA WORLD and filled out all
the sendaway cards...  BUT these magazines left me with more questions than
answers.

Having spend many years holding the hands of others through their
introductory time in PC's, NOVELL, UNIX and TVRO SATELLITE systems, I
suddenly find myself in the position of a NEWBIE.


Anone out there like to answer questions?

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From: elliott@idiotix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Imagewriter II compatibility
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:06:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Dec14.060643.18971
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

Hello, I've asked this before but never got a definite answer.  Can I
use my Imagewriter II with my A500?  If so, do I need to make my own 
interface or are they available commercially?  And do I need a driver
and where can I get it?

If you have an answer to any of these questions please reply.

Thanks

-- 
Elliott Lee
elliott@cs.uoregon.edu
From: v139r563@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BRIAN R TALTY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: amiga wp 4.1
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i am having a probably with printing on the word perfect 4.1 version.
when i print out a multipaged document the printer(pan.1191)
prints out the first page, then skips a half a page and prints...etc.
The thing i found unusual was that to print with vertical correct spacing the
first page has to be set at the sensor inside the machine, or else it will
print on the second half of the page. Has anyone encounterred that probably, 
does anyone have a solution or at least know where the problem is.

p.s. the panasonic kx-p1191 is not defined on my print disk. instead i use
the pan 1091i. could that be the problem? please reply through vax email.
thanks in advance........Brian

-----
Brian R Talty                       Vax/Vms  :  v139r563@ubvms.cc.BUFFALO.Edu
University At Buffalo               UNIX     :  talty@acsu.BUFFALO.Edu
State University of New York        CWRUnet  :  bg786@cwns16.ins.CWRU.Edu
Buffalo, NY                   ///
                            \XX/Amiga Computer Systems
From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: amiga wp 4.1
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:32:31 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <Bz80GG.Guz@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v139r563@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BRIAN
R TALTY) writes:
>i am having a probably with printing on the word perfect 4.1 version.
>when i print out a multipaged document the printer(pan.1191)
>prints out the first page, then skips a half a page and prints...etc.
>The thing i found unusual was that to print with vertical correct spacing the
>first page has to be set at the sensor inside the machine, or else it will
>print on the second half of the page. Has anyone encounterred that probably, 
>does anyone have a solution or at least know where the problem is.
>
>p.s. the panasonic kx-p1191 is not defined on my print disk. instead i use
>the pan 1091i. could that be the problem? please reply through vax email.
>thanks in advance........Brian
>
>-----
>Brian R Talty                       Vax/Vms  :  v139r563@ubvms.cc.BUFFALO.Edu
>University At Buffalo               UNIX     :  talty@acsu.BUFFALO.Edu
>State University of New York        CWRUnet  :  bg786@cwns16.ins.CWRU.Edu
>Buffalo, NY                   ///
>                            \XX/Amiga Computer Systems
        Yes, that could be your problem.  On the print disk there should be a
utlity to create printer drivers.  Just use that and your printer manual to
create the right one.
                        Jay Brown

==============================================================================
IBM MAKES IT IN BULK...MACINTOSH MAKES IT POPULAR, BUT ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT     
                           POSSIBLE.
==============================================================================
From: schaefer@disuns2.epfl.ch (Marc Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: BI-WEEKLY: FTP information + AMIGA FTP sites list
Keywords: FTP FAQ
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:11:56 GMT
Reply-To: schaefer@disuns2.epfl.ch (Marc Schaefer)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

>amiga.physik.unizh.ch	130.60.80.80  M amiga
litamiga.epfl.ch also (/pub/aminet)
>
>amiga.physik.unizh.ch	130.60.80.80  M amix
litamiga.epfl.ch also (/pub/amix)

litamiga.epfl.ch has also a local amiga directory.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: u920659@daimi.aau.dk (Carsten S|rensen)
Subject: Re: How many megs on a new LP120S?
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:43:47 GMT

mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara) writes:


>Ok, simple question number 1.  How many megabytes will fit on  a
>Quantum LP120S?  120 or close enough to round up?  So... like
>115 or 119?  I just purchased a new one from Computer Shopping
>Network and can only get 114 mgeabytes using FFS.  The drive did not
>come with a sector error chart, so I am assuming no errors.  Safe
>assumption?  I don't know, can someone help?

I think it's 114 or 115 megs. I have a friend who has one too and we
were a bit surprised when we did a check on it. I have a Maxtor 120 Mb
but it's actually 121 megs formatted with FFS! It's a strange world :)

>Philip McNamara
>McPhil@med.unc.edu

Carsten Soerensen
u920659@daimi.aau.dk


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: dave@xanadu.reston.ingr.com (Dave Loveall)
Subject: Re: amiga wp 4.1
Reply-To: dave@xanadu.reston.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Federal Systems Division, Reston VA
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:39:41 GMT

In <shogun.09k8@tension.UUCP> shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown) writes:

>In article <Bz80GG.Guz@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v139r563@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BRIAN
>R TALTY) writes:
>>i am having a probably with printing on the word perfect 4.1 version.
>>when i print out a multipaged document the printer(pan.1191)
>>prints out the first page, then skips a half a page and prints...etc.
>>The thing i found unusual was that to print with vertical correct spacing the
>>first page has to be set at the sensor inside the machine, or else it will
>>print on the second half of the page. Has anyone encounterred that probably, 
>>does anyone have a solution or at least know where the problem is.
>>
>>p.s. the panasonic kx-p1191 is not defined on my print disk. instead i use
>>the pan 1091i. could that be the problem? please reply through vax email.
>>thanks in advance........Brian
>>
>>-----
>>Brian R Talty                       Vax/Vms  :  v139r563@ubvms.cc.BUFFALO.Edu
>>University At Buffalo               UNIX     :  talty@acsu.BUFFALO.Edu
>>State University of New York        CWRUnet  :  bg786@cwns16.ins.CWRU.Edu
>>Buffalo, NY                   ///
>>                            \XX/Amiga Computer Systems
>        Yes, that could be your problem.  On the print disk there should be a
>utlity to create printer drivers.  Just use that and your printer manual to
>create the right one.
>                        Jay Brown

The program you're referring to PrintDef, and it is indeed on the Print
disk.

There is (or was) an manual available from WordPerfect Corp that would be
of great help to someone creating or modifying printer drivers, especially
if you haven't done that kind of thing before.  Naturally, the manual
is at home (I'm not) but I beleve its called "WordPerfict Printer 
Definition Program Reference".  Its a small perfect-bound book around US 
$10.  

I own a old KX-P1091 (no _i_, so no proportional printing, etc), 
and rolled my own because the supplied KX-P1091 driver used the IBM 
graphics emulation mode of the KX-P1091, and I wanted the italics 
capability in native mode.  Besides, there was a bug in the supplied 
driver (for superscript, it would send EscS(0) instead of EscS(O), 
causing the printer to either go nuts or go off-line - don't remember 
which - maybe both ;-)  With the codes fixed, I can print the test page 
with no problems..

>==============================================================================
>IBM MAKES IT IN BULK...MACINTOSH MAKES IT POPULAR, BUT ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT     
>                           POSSIBLE.
>==============================================================================

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: jee_hbm@athena.mit.edu (Jean-Emile Elien)
Subject: PD TeX formatter..
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:28:59 GMT

About a week or two ago, someone had posted the location of a PD or
shareware TeX formatter at an FTP site. I wondered if that person (or
anyone else who might know :) post the location or send me email on the
location? Thanks in advance.
					Jean-Emile Elien
					jee_hbm@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Re: Now I have gone and done it....
Organization: City University, London
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:52:00 GMT

flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:
>I did buy this month's AMAZING COMPUTING and AMIGA WORLD and filled out all
>the sendaway cards...  BUT these magazines left me with more questions than
>answers.

You should get hold of about half a dozen Amiga Format monthlies
and special issues. I suggest:
The Complete Software Guide
The 1992 Annual
The Complete Beginners Guide

And maybe the latest monthly for the flavour of up to date info.

They are about 3 or 4 pounds each, and well worth it.

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/___/_/_/\/ City University, London EC1V 0HB \ \___\_\_\
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara)
Subject: How many megs on a new LP120S?
Originator: mcphil@cahaba
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:14:46 GMT


Ok, simple question number 1.  How many megabytes will fit on  a
Quantum LP120S?  120 or close enough to round up?  So... like
115 or 119?  I just purchased a new one from Computer Shopping
Network and can only get 114 mgeabytes using FFS.  The drive did not
come with a sector error chart, so I am assuming no errors.  Safe
assumption?  I don't know, can someone help?

Philip McNamara
McPhil@med.unc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: levay@stsci.edu (Zoltan Levay)
Subject: Re: LHA compressor?
Originator: levay@lithops.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:01:25 GMT


In article <50412@shamash.cdc.com>, app@shamash.cdc.com (CDII Advanced Pkg/Processes) writes:
|> LHA handles .lha and .lzh files.  It can be found at grind; 
|> hostip=128.255.19.233, fish disk 715.

The next question is if LHA exists for other platforms, preferably
Unix?  I have lharc for Unix, but as mentioned, it doesn't fully
understand .lha archives.

-- 

  						Zolt
  						levay@stsci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: afryer@minotaur (A. Fryer)
Subject: Re: I am about to buy an A500, this is a request for advise.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.introduction,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Reply-To: afryer@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Disorganized
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:48:27 GMT

dkt News Reader (dkt@uniplex.co.uk) wrote:

: THE PACKAGE BEING OFFERED FOR SALE
: ----------------------------------
: Hardware
: --------
: Amiga A500 with 1.2 chip set.
: 512Kb trapdoor RAM expansion with battery backed-up clock.
: Amiga 1010 3.5" external drive (a piece of history as someone put it??).
: Joy-stick.
: Amiga mouse.
: Amiga 1081 colour monitor with SCART lead.
: (It's probable that he will include a wide carriage Epson LX100 in the price)

: Software
: --------
: (*loads*, but includes:)
: Aztec C compiler
: AMOS-The Creator development package (is this good? It looks powerful.)
: AMOS 3D (Upgrade to AMOS 1.3 plus Object Modeller)
: Workbench 1.2 and 1.3 bootables
: (many, many games, magazines' disks, public domain software)


: reach for your calculators:
: 480 * 1.57 = $754
: 515 * 1.57 = $810


Well,  that isn't too bad a price for what your getting.  I would recommend upgrading to the
2.1 operating system, it is sooooo much nicer than 1.2. (Don't bother with 1.3 ROM,
it only adds the abiltity to boot from HD, and RAM disks).  There
is no real advantage in getting an A600 over this since it is functionally
the same beast (except it has a built-in IDE port and PCIMIA port).
 If you want to expand the sucker, it there are hundreds of Add-ons
for it (Hard drives, memory, accellerators etc.). 
If you wish to do development, you may want to invest in a hard
drive and possibly an accelerator.   Two floppy drives are painful for a
C compiler.  More RAM would also be a good move.

An A1200 will cost you more, (399 pounds without Hard Drive for the computer alone), but it is a faster machine, is easier and cheaper to expand memory and Hard Drive.  Plus it also has the new generation of graphics chips in it.  (These are MUCH better and FASTER than the ones in the A500!).
Another disadvantage of getting the A1200, is that you will have to spend big bucks to get a suitable monitor for it (it requires a multi-scan to make use of all graphics modes).  

So, it depends upon what you want for the future.  The A500 will still be a good machine for a few years, but gradually more software will be expecting the new chipset (AGA) only found on the newer machines.  If you can afford to shell out about twice as much, I think you will be much happier with a brand new A1200.

- Alun

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From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: Imagewriter II compatibility
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:30:43 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <1992Dec14.060643.18971@cs.uoregon.edu>,
elliott@idiotix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
>Hello, I've asked this before but never got a definite answer.  Can I
>use my Imagewriter II with my A500?  If so, do I need to make my own 
>interface or are they available commercially?  And do I need a driver
>and where can I get it?
>
>If you have an answer to any of these questions please reply.
>
>Thanks
>
>-- 
>Elliott Lee
>elliott@cs.uoregon.edu
        Yes, you can use your Imagewriter II with oyur A500.  All you need is
the right serial cable.  I know they used to make a cable for it, but I
haven';t seen it for a long time.  You may have to make your own.  The driver
should be on your extras disk.
                        Jay Brown

==============================================================================
IBM MAKES IT IN BULK...MACINTOSH MAKES IT POPULAR, BUT ONLY AMIGA MAKES IT     
                           POSSIBLE.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
From: Thomas.Herlyn@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Herlyn)
Subject: Re: Pinball Fantasies
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:42:12 GMT

bunny@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Laura Kozma) writes:


>Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this game work
>with an Amiga 2000 with a Bridgeboard?

Sure, very simple:
1. Open A2000
2. Remove BB (XT-BB isn't worth to be plugged in)
3. Close A2000 and there you go!

	Thomas Herlyn
From: huebner@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Re: Cosmic Conquestv2.0, (or ANY other GREAT strategy game)
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:49:53 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

(request for strategy game suggestions removed)

This is a great idea for a thread.  I love strategy game and they're
the main reason the latest incarnation of 'consoles' have no appeal
for me.  So here's my $0.02 worth on strategy gaming on Amiga:

Wargames: I really loved Battle Isles and I've just been informed that
 the sequel entitled "History Line" or something like that is already
 out in German.  The sequel should address a lot of the shortcomings
 of BI 1 and a magazine stated it ships on 7 disks.  Other wargames
 out or due out shortly are Conquest of Japan by Impressions, and
 Campaign by Empire.  I've generally been impressed by the latest
 Impressions stuff (very polished, although not always as "deep"
 as other stuff).  I bought Campaign a few days ago.  First impressions
 indicate it is kind of hard to get into (very different approach)
 but looks very in-depth.  I'll try to compile a review as soon as I
 can, but on first impression I think maybe the magazine ratings may
 have been a bit higher than I would rate it.

Other: I really love games like Civilization (soon to be AGA-itized!),
 RR Tycoon, Populous II (its sorta strategy) and would recommend any
 of them without reservation.  Civilization in particular is the best
 blend of wargame and god-sim I've had the pleasure of playing, despite
 a few bugs and interface gripes (which are present on the IBM version
 too so I don't feel SO bad) I have surely logged more hours playing
 this than anything else.  

Please post more game recommendations.  The latest salvo of platform
console-wanna-bes and Street Fighter II just aren't what I bought my
Amiga for!

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
 Robert Huebner				rhuebner@sage.cc.purdue.edu
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Thoughts on `Conquest of Japan` anyone???
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:48:56 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Anyone have any impressions on "Conquest of Japan?"  Does it run on a
3000?  What's it like?  You get the idea...

e-mail responses please.  I'll post a summary later.
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
From: wilhelal@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Tony Wilhelm)
Subject: Dune
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:10:12 GMT


Does any one have or know where I can get a walk through or hints for Dune.


					Tony Wilhelm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
From: m92mmy@tdb.uu.se (Mattias Myrberg)
Subject: Re: STUNT CAR 2
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:19:54 GMT

In article 18701 Lars Martinsen writes:



>WE ALL HAS TO AGREE ON THAT A SEQUEL TO STUNT CAR MUST BE THE MOST WANTED
>PRODUCT AT THIS TIME, NOW HOWEVER WITH:

>        - FPU support
>       - Outside view
>      - Replay
>        - Link 4 computers
>        - Track generator
>        - A (little) less time loss when driving off the track
>        - Inside mirror to see opponents that breathing in your neck

>WE ALL SHOULD PRAY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE GO TO SLEEP EACH NIGHT!!!!!

Yes, you're right !

Lets !

/Mattias

_______
Mattias Myrberg

m92mmy@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se
From: gkropf@bfield.uucp (Gary Kropf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Re: Ms.O'Hara UNINVITED help!
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:45:15 EST
Organization: Bakers Field BBS

In article <71552@cup.portal.com>, TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>>       I've downloaded the hint file for the game Uninvited but
>>>have yet to figure out how to dispose of Ms. O'Hara, the undead.
>>>I've tried everything I could think of - from opening the No Ghost
>>>bottle to drinking it.  The hint was that something in the closet could
>>>take care of Ms. O'Hara.
>>>
>>>       James
>>>
>>
>>I shelved the game after reaching this same spot. Nothing I did made any
>>difference. I would also appreciate some info on this...thanks.....
>
>Wow. You guys are taking me way back...lesse, I finished that over 5
>years ago.
>
>Anyway. You open the "No Ghost", and then (as I remember, the exact order
>is important here) you click on the open can and then click on the back
>of the ghost. You only have one shot to do it right.
>
>TomK@cup.portal.com
>Tom Krotchko

If you could E-Mail me any hints or cheats that you have for this game, I would
be forever grateful...Thanks

Anyone one else have any hint please send them....

                 **********************************************
                 *         bfield!gkropf@tdksc.waterloo.on    *
                 *         Gary Kropf  C/O BakersField BBS    *
                 **********************************************
From: spb6322@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Cosmic Conquestv2.0, (or ANY other GREAT strategy game)
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:41:15 GMT
Reply-To: spb6322@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I have Cosmic Conquest v1.x now, but Carl Edman said that he might have an
update out by the fall of '90, so I am wondering if any of you have seen the
second version of this awesome game.  

If I can not get CCv2.0(even if I can), I would like some suggestions of great
strategy games available on the Amiga. 
					Thanks,
					   Knight
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
From: jepaul@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Darth Jason)
Subject: Mike Ditka Football
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:18:33 GMT

I just saw in Creative Computers that they have a game called Mike Ditkas football.  Does anyone know if this is good?