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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:53:57 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
              <gtoal%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk%kate.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
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: I'm pleased to see that you, too, have the true Christmas spirit finally.

*Finally*???!?!  You must be new here! :-)

G
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Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:45:44 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>well, amazing things DO happen....they won in OT....of course Houston
>fans can take Natalie-like consolation....in the one touchdown that shouldn't
>have counted since the guy was out before he caught the ball...
>
That game was like two different ones.  In the first half, Houston blew
Buffalo out of the water.  I mean 35-3?  Puhleuuuze.  Then Houston seemed
to go catatonic in the second half.  I can kind of sympathize with the
Oilers, since that one TD shouldn't have counted, but without instant
replay all the bum calls stand.  [tough luck, Warren.....:) ]  I think the
game [bum call and all] set a record for the biggest comeback of all time
in NFL history.  Thirty-five points in one half is a rather big comeback,
but I'm quoting some of those commentators, and they aren't exactly known for
their brains.:-)

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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Brad's Entertainment Question
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>"What is Margaret Houlihan's nickname?"
>
>This is luck holding up?  Margaret Houlihan?  Entertainment....  I haven't
>the foggiest.  I'll guess Happy Houlihan in desperation.  Give me Geography
>next should this somehow hit the target.
>
>brad

Don't you remember MASH? We're having our tenth rerun of that series at the
moment on aus tv. Margaret Houlihan, the head nurse in that series was known
as 'Hot Lips'.

Carolyn
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> There are good-natured catcalls, and there are mean-spirited
> catcalls, and the good-natured ones (generally) come from
> good-natured people, and the mean-spirited ones from mean-
> spirited people; the targets are *much* less relevant. The
> nasty ones (as a rule) involve "dirty words", outright
> insults, nasty suggestions, or even physical harassment.
>
> An unattractive woman is as likely as an attractive one to
> be the target of mean-spirited harassment.

The point is in the latter comment, and it goes back to a variation of
something we all learned from our parents: Don't talk to strangers.
Admittedly, if we didn't talk to strangers of the opposite sex once in
awhile, the human race would have died out long ago; but I think
there's a discernible separation between or among flattering comments,
passes, and outright nasty comments.  Passes stand directly in the
middle.  They can be highly flattering if the signals are there that
the attentions might be welcomed; or they can be impersonal and
demonstrate a hostility toward the person of the opposite sex, rather
than any profound attraction.

Every woman I have ever known who has had occasion to walk anywhere in
the garment district of New York City, irrespective of age or what she
might have looked like, has told me that to do so is to be barraged by
guys--usually the men who unload trucks or push dress racks--making
appalling lip-and-tongue-smacking noises that make them sound like a
school of guppies in heat.  Often, the sounds are accompanied by
oh-so-subtle body-language such as pointing at one's crotch.  _None_
of the women who told me about this sort of crap ever suggested that
the attentions of these men were even mildly flattering.  How Not To
Get A Date With An Angel....

Okay, in this case, you might say this a class or even racial thing,
and that I'm being a racist because the perpetrators of this sort of
"flattery" are primarily Hispanic men.  But their targets can also be
Hispanic women as well as women of any other race.  The fact remains
that the comments are blanket, random, crude, and therefore unwelcome.

Ken
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 22 Dec 92 04:25:08 GMT
Organization: Netsys Inc.

In article <WORDS-L%92122120121091@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
>Posted on 21 Dec 1992 at 19:56:56 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>>Too bad you have hope to give up ... he's from Hot Springs,
>>remember?
>
>What does *this* mean?  Anyway, I expect Hillary to keep him in line.:)

Karen, I think it's an example of Am. Spectator humor:
   "Hey, didja hear the latest joke about Bill Clinton?" 
   "No, tell me."
   "He's from Arkansas!"

hahahahahahahahaha (chortle, guffaw, roar)--great sense of humor, those guys.

Jim (I still don't get it) Thomas

   
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: On the shortage of lives on words-l

>Ausbrook, stop following up to every damned posting with vapid,
>irrelevant and random remarks. As Ruth has said, it annoys her.
>
>tushar

If I do follow posts with such remarks, you have only yourself to blame.

-brrraaawK

-List Parrot
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:25:27 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bye ... good holidays
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Michael E. Macmillan (mmac@pegasus.com) says:

> As long as you're hanging around, Joan, let me thank you for
> passing along that little EDT macro.  It works like a charm,
> and I've found it helpful.  And thanks to the author, too,
> asn't it?  Best wishes for the holidays.

Yes it does work like a charm -- I only wish I knew how it worked.
As you can see somehow Adam's (List Honey) name was lost -- it was he
who sent it to me.  I don't know if he is its author.

Joan
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:48:49 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Short Note (brag/?)
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          Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
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On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:07:01 EST Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078 said:
>Don, here at work, having read no mail at all, as got ID suspended trying to
>get too fancy too quick with new stuff at home.  Santa was good to me.  As

   you naughty boy, you.....

>neighbor said I went from Model T to spaceship.  At home now, Gateway 2000
>486DX33V, already 64M of software on 255M drive, both size floppy drives,
>8 MG ram, 1 MG ATI Ultra Pro 32-bit local bus driver running 15 inch, SVGA
>non-interlaced .28 monitor, input via mouse or 124 key keyboard, 14.4
>32 bis modem, 9600 fax, HP colorjet printer, reams of manuals.  Thoroughly

   sounds almost identical to mine, though i only have 210 mb disk, but have
66mhz 486.....rest sounds essentially the same....though i have laserjet IIIp
instead of the colorjet....we did get my daughter a deskjet to go with
her 386/20 that she inherited from us....well, actually her mother paid for
it and gail bought it with her HP employee price, which these days is only
about 80 bucks lower than cheapest price at OfficeWarehouse and such.

>lost having never used Windows (3.1) and not familiar with mice and DOS 5.0.
>But rather impressed with the potential of all....but no multi-media, CD ROM
>......yet.  Hope all is well with everyone and you all survive the holidays

   i'm used to dos 5.0, but the windows is interesting....and challenging....
i've barely gotten my feet wet, and not sure if i really wanna convert my
dos software....instead of just running it as dos stuff within windows....
maybe at next upgrade time, i suppose....

>with no bad effects (realize I have not yet read mail, so hoping no bad
>news anywhere).  Bye....really got to get to work.

    all is going well here....and eye continues to imjprove....slowly...
which continues to be frustrating to one who wants instant gratification....
   o-)

best

dan
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:56:28 GMT
From:         Graham Toal
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Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
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        Well, I *never* in all my life!

Personally, I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

G
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Found in a Toystore
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On Tue, 22 Dec 1992, Thomas J. Lee wrote:

>         Your memory is amazing!  Yep, I still go by "The Lamplighter,"
> occasionally, though this no longer seems like a list where people use
> handles.

Yes, you're right, we're all too grown up for that now.

-Bandwidth Pig
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>John...you forgot the new shoes on the bed...very dangerous to forget that
>one!

I always thought it was 'new shoes on a table'. I'm surprised that no one
celebrated or even mentioned Hogmanay this year or the traditional haggis
which I always thought was part of any Scottish feast - so particularly
appropriate for this time of year.

>ndh (and I certainly hope you throw spilled salt over your left shoulder!)

Not to mention 'crossed knives' and 'spilt sugar' - even throwing them over
your shoulder doesn't help and only makes things worse.

Carolyn
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What A Quiet Bunch
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> Milk works better than corn bread for that.  I made 15 bean soup recently too,
> but had to leave out the real spices.  We have some pepper wimps in the
> house.:-)  Do you add tomato paste to yours?
>
No, but I do add tomatoes, usually those from our garden that I have
frozen, but if I don't have any of those I'll use the canned whole tomatoes.
doris
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 28 Dec 1992 03:16:23 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>        Nope - just complaining that he'd missed a milk hit!  He's an addict....
>
>One of life's unsolved mysteries.  Where do cows go over Christmas?  I mean,

Club Med?

>according to the dates on the cartons, they produce extra in the days before
>the holidays, right?  And the milk after the holidays takes over at the
>expected date, so inbetween they must all have a holiday and stop producing
>milk, no?

Maybe they put the cows on birth control pills?  THey feed 'em everything else
on this side of the Atlantic...:-(

>And no relation to the above, but why does the milk in the week before and
>the week after Christmas taste like it's a week old?

You must get some weird milk, Graham.

>Bah, humbug.
>
The Grinch who Stole Epiphany is back!

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:38:37 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Nerve of steel
              27 Dec 1992 22:49:00 EST from <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

Uncle Giggles, you're back!

As for the 672 mail messages, download them and process them.

Evelyn
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Subject:      Re: How I love the winter...

> Yippee!  Finally!  Just our of curiosity, did a certain pair of padded
> envelopes make their way to your new office yet? [they're demos for your
> new padded cell, Ken]  BTW - big congrats on getting something published!
>

Yes, Ruth, they did, and I was remiss in thanking you, but thank you!

Ken
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: New Year's Good Luck Foods

No, Torkel, it's true.  I got it from my (Texas) maternal grandmother:
Gloom & Doom await those foolish enough to not consume blackeye peas and
*some* form of pork on New Years Day!  (I had mine!)  She was a very
superstitious woman but that is the only one that I take to heart.  (Except
for putting a hat on a bed.)  I know that blackeye[d] peas are actually a form
of bean but as for the origin of the tradition I haven't a clue.  Rumors
started by agents of the Pea-Pickers Union, perhaps?  8-)

John "Did I mention the cornbread?" W.
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English peas
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> When I read Natalie's account of June days in the 50s in Jackson, I thought
> of air-conditioning.  Children somehow seem immune from the worst effects
> of that brutal Mississippi heat; I mean, the heat and humidity of those
> largely un-air-conditioned times is screened out of the nostalgic memories.
>
> brad

Do you remember having to be inside during the hottest part of the
afternoon because the extreme heat might make you more susceptable to polio?
As for the lack of air-conditioning, it probably was a case of "you can't
miss what you've never seen."  I don't remember being unduly bothered by
the heat (and I grew up in south and central Texas), but I do remember
that we had what was called a "water cooler," a window-mounted fan with a
water hose fed into the back of it.  The fan blew over the water and this
allowed cool air to circulate rather than warm air.  These could not be
used in humid areas, however.
doris
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:57:29 GMT

ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:

>Posted on 23 Dec 1992 at 08:37:23 by Aaron L Dickey
>>Sometime I wonder if all the poor "sexually harrassed" women of this world
>>don't actually know how good they've got it.

>This is such bullshit.  Your dichotomy of the amazingly attractive/unattractive
>person is overly simplistic.  Victims of sexual assault/harassment are
>not generally in the former category.  The issues are power and availability,
>not attractiveness.  (That is what is meant by 'rape is not about sex'.)

Go back and read the sentence immediately after the one you quoted above. 
I said flat out that I was referring to such things as catcalls in public
ONLY, and was not questioning that fact that rape and serious sexual
harrassment do exist in this world.  I was never talking about assault and
rape at all.  You misread the context of my argument.

>>The moral here is: Sexual harrassment works both ways, and I'm getting a

>It amuses me that men don't think that women know this.

A lot of women don't.  Obviously a lot of men don't understand the first
thing about what sexual harrassment is, so there's no way 100% of all
women automatically know that it goes both ways.  If they did, there'd be
a lot more discussion about how to solve the problem of sexual harrassment
and a lot fewer pure demands on the part of "women's groups."

>And it also amuses me that men feel very threatened whenever the
>discussion comes up.
 
I don't feel threatened; I just think there's more than one side to the
story.  That's all.

>My comments to Steve (which I guess he won't read, because he set nomail)
>were specifically meant for him.  Hmmm...maybe I'll spend dinner at Emily's
>staring at his crotch as an experiment....

>Karen

Go ahead and do it; just please report the results back here.

--Aaron

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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: This ere t-shirt
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On Fri, 1 Jan 1993 fribble@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk wrote:

> I just wanted to know how to get hold of one of these ere t-shirts (
> the WORDS-L one that I have seen a certainmildly high-profile member
> of this list wearing).

Who *is* this poseur?!@#!?!@#

-abh
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:44:53 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Young pen-pal sought
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A user on Tenet who saw me logged in has written me and asked if I know
any kids who might be interested in exchanging e-mail with his 11-year-old
daughter. If anyone wants to be put in touch with this person, let me
know.

-abh
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In a previous article, harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) says:

>Greetings, Marty,
>
>I was wondering if you might comment on the lyrics of the current smash
>hit "Free Your Mind."
>
I don't care what he thinks too much, but *I* like it.:-)  It's commercial,
slick, and sung by a record company-manufactured group, but I like it
anyway.  Maybe it's the combination of the hard rock backup and the girl-
group harmonies on the chorus, but it sounds pretty good.  Now, what 
Claude will make of the lyrics, this could be interesting.  I kind of
like those too, even if they are a bit high schoolish.:-)

This could be interesting, Anne.....

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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Football
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> a later msg, or for the sports in about 7 minutes....to see if MSU kept
> the SEC record perfect for this year....

MSU didn't.  Must not have found a Tar Heel to castrate in anticipation of
the game.  But if only either one of those called-back touchdowns in the
first half had counted...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>        [eh, fungus-face?  THIS IS YOUR CLUE TO GROWL IN, GRAHAM] :-)
>
>"Grrrrrr!!!!"
>
Thank you.  Much better, and far more straightforward than your last few
messages.  

>Feel better now?  (You're not picking up bad habits from Karen are you?)

Actually, she's probably picking them up from me.[or from Karsten? :) ]

>G (back from three days visiting at Christmas)

Ahhh - so that's it!  A few hours in public transport are enough to drive
me up walls too.  

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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English peas
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A never-answered question around here in the growing season is "What is
the real difference between black-eyed peas and purple hull peas?"
The hull of one is either green or straw colored, depending on when they
are picked, and the hull of the other is purple (the color rubs off on the
hands, too).  My husband, who knows all about growing them has a tendency
to lump them together in his mind, but it is always the *black-eyed* pea
that gets served on New Year's Day.  Oh, and the eye of the php is not as
dark as that of the bep.


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>I also remember being careful to observe the quarantine of the little
>boy across the street whose mother had polio.  Since he couldn't go to
>school and since nobody could come to his house, even into his yard, I
>kept him informed of goings-on by standing on one side of the 4" curb at
>the edge of his yard while he stood on the other side of it.  When I told
>my mother that story later, she almost fainted.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I'd never realised how widespread that Polio Epidemic must have been. My
childhood playmate also contracted it which was strange because he was only
3 years old and I was the only other child he ever come into contact with and
yet I didn't contract it at all.... his mother did blame me though for
bringing it home from school and giving it to him. :-(

Carolyn