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From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: patch allows R12 to run in OS/2 DOS session
Date: 8 Nov 1992 01:17:50 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Thanks to the help of many people, and in particular, Richard Blalock,
there is now a *BETA* patch for the DOS Extender of the 386 version of
AutoCAD R12 that allows it to run in a DOS full screen session under
OS/2 2.0.  The readme me states that it is only tested for VGA screens
and there is a problem with the XGA driver.  I have been using the
8514 screen driver in 1024x768 and it works fine as long as you do
not switch back to the OS/2 desktop whil autoCAD is running.  Doing
so will consistently crash my system.

In order to get decent plotting times when plotting to a plotter
connected to the parallel port with the release 12 c0 under OS/2, you
should print directly to the OS/2 print spooler by sending the plot to
a file with the name 'LPT1.OS2'.  OS/2 will interpret this 'reserved'
file name and redirect the output to the print spooler.  I achieved 5
times faster plotting to a LaserJet printer under OS/2 with this
method than when running release 12 c0 under DOS.

The patch is available from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (for now in /pub/uploads)
with the name os2acad.zip.  It is also available from Autodesk's
Global Village BBS.

Although not a real PM port of AutoCAD, this is at least a small
commitment from AutoDesk to support the 1 million plus OS/2 2.0 users
who wish to run a real 32 bit operating system on their 386/486 PC's.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
From: lbartel@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AUTOLISP Problem
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:51:27 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <17855@autodesk.COM>, drake@Autodesk.COM (Dan Drake) writes:
> quopingl@cs.umr.edu (James Lin) writes:
>> Hi Netters:
>> 
>> I want to write an AUTOLISP function which can convert a set of lines and arcs
>> into a single 2D polyline.  I know the PEDIT command can convert an entity into 
>> a polyline yet I want to convert them as a batch.  Have any idea?
> 
> I'm not sure what the problem is here.  PEDIT JOIN takes a whole string
> of lines and/or arcs, which are laid out end to end, and converts them
> all to a single 2D plyline.  The only problems arise when the end-to-end
> matching isn't sufficiently precise.
> 
> --
> Dan Drake                 In software, the *complete* design *is* the software!
> drake@Autodesk.com        --Hugh Lamaster


Here is a solution, I wrote this morning, if you don't need to join the plines.


;;;====================================================
;;; MAKE LINE WIDE
;;;====================================================
(defun C:LINEWIDE (/ selset count width ename elist type diam cent id od)
   (setvar "cmdecho" 0)
   ;;;
   ;;; BUILD SELECTION SET AND INITIALIZE VARIABLES
   ;;;
   (setq selset (ssget)
         count  -1
   )
   ;;;
   ;;; ALLOW ONLY POSITIVE OR 0 LINE WIDTH
   ;;;
   (initget (+ 1 4))
   (setq width (* (getreal "\nEnter New Line Width: ") (getvar "dimscale")))
   ;;;
   ;;; STEP THROUGH SELECTION SET CHANGING ALL VALID ITEMS
   ;;;
   (if selset
      (repeat (sslength selset)
         (setq ename (ssname selset (setq count (1+ count)))
               elist (entget ename)
               type  (cdr (assoc 0 elist))
         )
         (cond
            ((member type '("LINE" "ARC" "DIMENSION"))
               (command "pedit" ename "Y" "W" width "X"))
            ((= "POLYLINE" type)
               (command "pedit" ename "W" width "X"))
            ((= "CIRCLE" type)
               ;;;
               ;;; CHANGE CIRCLE INTO DOUGHNUT AND DELETE CIRCLE
               ;;;
               (progn
                  (setq diam (* 2 (cdr (assoc 40 elist)))
                        cent (cdr (assoc 10 elist))
                        id   (- diam width)
                        od   (+ diam width)
                  )
                  (command "DOUGHNUT" id od cent "")
                  (entdel ename)
               )
            ) 
            (T);;; DO NOTHING
         )
      )
      (princ "\nNothing Found")
   )
   (setvar "cmdecho" 1)
(princ)
)


Lawrence Bartel
"in%lbartel@vax1.umkc.edu"
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 23:35:40 EST
From:         Kevin Hodgson <SBLY@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help needed...

REgarding yoursuggestions for trade magazines; unfortunately (in
my humble opinion) MicroCAD News, which was recently renamed DesignNET,
apprears to have suspended publication. Cadance is now the only offering
from Ariel publishers (along with thier extensive compendium of AutoCAD
books)

Kevin Hodgson
SBLY@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: isometric view from a 3D-drawing
Date: 10 Nov 1992 13:48:40 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <1992Nov10.120859.10566@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>, gadenz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Alexander Gadenz) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> My problem :
|> 
|> I have a 3D-drawing and i have to plot it in ISOMETRY.
|> So i need a function (LISP) or program to convert 3D to a 2D-drawing in isometry.
|> ACAD R11!!
|> 
|> If anyone could help me, please mail!
|> 
|> Thanks.
|> 
|> 
|> Alexander Gadenz      email: gadenz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de

This is really quite simple.  Do the following:

1.  Create a new layer (i.e. "ISO") and make it current.

2.  Put the model in the desired isometric view.
    (vpoint <ret> 1,-1,1 <ret> is a standard ISO view)

3.  Make the UCS plan to current view
    (ucs <ret> v <ret> )

4.  Load an AtuoLISP program that is supplied with AutoCAD
    called "project.lsp".  This program can be loaded by using 
    the "BONUS" screen menu.  After it loads it will ask you if 
    you want to run "project1 or project2.  Choose project1.  This
    will take the current view an project it onto the current UCS
    in 2D.  All line that "look like" they cross now will.  Lines 
    can be trimmed to remove "hidden lines" etc.



Hope this helps.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA
   
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: shiv@mecad.uta.edu (Shivakumar Sundaram)
Subject: ADS Query !!
Keywords: ads_buildlist, ads_entmake for INSERTS
Reply-To: utacfd.uta.edu
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:37:27 GMT

I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten me on how
"ads_buildlist" and "ads_entmake" works for BLOCKS (INSERTS). My program
inserts a block but is unable to create ANY ATTRIBUTES and therefore
crashes on me giving an error.

My program goes as :

int plevel()
{
	
	int status;
	struct resbuf *plev;
	ads_name ent;
	ads_point pt;

	pt[X] = 5.0;
	pt[Y] = 5.0;
	pt[Z] = 0.0;

	 plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "INSERT", 66, 1, 2, "PLEVEL", 10, pt, 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 1");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL insert\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "ATTRIB", 1,  "2", 2,  "PLEVEL", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("List creation error 2");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);	

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Attribute \n");
		return BAD; 
	}


	plev = ads_buildlist(RTDXF0, "SEQEND", 0);
	if(plev == NULL)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL SEQEND\n");
		return BAD;
	}

	status = ads_entmake(plev);
	ads_relrb(plev);

	if(status != RTNORM)
	{
		ads_fail("Unable to create PLEVEL Seqend\n");
		return BAD;
	}
	
	ads_redraw(NULL, 0);
	return RSRSLT; 
}

It is a simple program of inserting  a block and creating its attributes
I know there is a bug in the ATTRIB buildlist but am unable to find it.
Any kind of help is welcome.

Please e-mail to 

	shiv@mecad.uta.edu
	
Thanx

-shiv

*****************************************
shiv@mecad.uta.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Texas at Arlington
Arlington, Texas - 76019
(817) 273 2016
*****************************************
From: MTPETERS@UTKVX.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Maximum block size?
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:33:26 GMT
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        If you say you are using R12, then why don't you xref the blocks
together into one drawing.  Xref works similar to a block, but any changes
made in the xref drawing are reflected in the composite.  This would be the
most efficient way to do the drawing cosidering the size that you are talking
about.  When you plot the drawing or whatever, it will work just like one
huge drawing, but not have quite so much overhead associated with one large
drawing, instead just a bunch of little one.s
Todd Peterson
MTPETERS@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: schultz@ai.mew.mei.co.jp (Bob Schultz)
Subject: Space Shuttle DXF file wanted
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd., Osaka, Japan
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:16:50 GMT

Hello,

I'm looking for a dxf file of the Space Shuttle.  If anyone has one
or knows where I could get one, please contact me at schultz@mew.mei.co.jp.

Thanks!

-bob

-----
 Robert J. Schultz      		               schultz@mew.mei.co.jp
 Artificial Intelligence Research Lab             "If I'd known it rained so
 Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd.                much in Japan, I'd have sent
 1048, Kadoma, Kadoma-shi                         in my place a goddam duck!"
 Osaka 571, Japan                                               -B. Holstein

	
Newsgroups: alt.cad
From: emmel@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Grant Emmel)
Subject: Anybody out there using Generic Cadd 6.0?
Summary: Just seeing if anybody uses GC6.0
Keywords: cad, generic, 6.0
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:35:39 GMT

Just a simple question.  I haven't seen alot of traffic regarding
Generic Cadd 6.0 (from Autodesk) and I was just wondering if anybody
out there is using it (for future reference.)

Thanks ahead of time,

-- 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Grant Emmel,  Physical Sciences Laboratory University of Wisconsin
Internet:emmel@psl.wisc.edu.                              608-873-6651
Newsgroups: alt.cad
Subject: Re: RFI:Displays used on 80's GE CALMA sytems
From: vseaman@calstatela.edu (Virgil Seaman 12-07-90)
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:20:26 PST
Reply-To: vseaman@calstatela.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles
Keywords: Looking for users of CADKEY 4.0 and 5.02, both in the university, college and 
 industry sectors.  I currently use CADKEY software in our School of 
 Engineering and Technology at California State University, Los Angeles, CA.
Summary: Looking for CADKEY users!
From: Wouldn't.you.like.to.know@bored.com (The Plain Truth)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Discrimination today
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:50:39 GMT
Organization: X-had-King-Killed
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A727BD3809015049@kip-sn-73.dartmouth.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 06:50:16 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11


  We live in a world where jobs are given not on the basis of merit, but
the color of one's skin. This also holds true for College admissions as
well. What is the government doing about this? In anwser to my own
question, the anwser is that they (the democrats at least) SUPPORT it.
It's called affirmitave action.
From: patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Discrimination today
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:11:39 GMT
Followup-To: alt.discrimination
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Nov12.125039.13787@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Wouldn't.you.like.to.know@bored.com (The Plain Truth) writes:
>
>  We live in a world where jobs are given not on the basis of merit, but
>the color of one's skin. This also holds true for College admissions as
>well. What is the government doing about this? In anwser to my own
>question, the anwser is that they (the democrats at least) SUPPORT it.
>It's called affirmitave action.

It wasn't until we relocated from New York City to the Vancouver area of 
British Columbia that we were shocked into the reality of discrimination on 
the basis of national origin; even admitting to being an American was the
equivalent of having an unmentionable social disease in what we now
consider to be the most racist Province in Canada.

Friends visiting us from Ontario said they felt as though they were
in a time warp because anyone not claiming origin from the British Isles
was considered an "other" and treated accordingly.

We also found out that folks in Canada do NOT like to talk about
discrimination - I guess they feel they are not racist and if they
don't talk about the problem it will just go away.  The authorities
had to start a "STOP RACISM" campaign in the public school system to
make children aware that calling people "slants, steves, yanks" is
considered a racial slur ** sigh ** and should be discontinued.

My neighbor, referring to my daughter's best friend who was a member
of the First Nations People, said "I think aboriginal people are okay,
as long as they stay in their place."  arrrgghhhH!

Yes, we moved back to the USA!




-- 
Patricia Ann Bromberger                     patth@panix.com
Excuse/explanation: I am the parent of a teenager!
Xref: sparky alt.discrimination:4607 sci.econ:8534
From: pas@kepler.unh.edu (Paul A Sand)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,sci.econ
Subject: Re: Mortgage bias
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:46:54 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

krb: KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu

krb: Obviously someone with an elementary knowledge of statistics. Using
    binary or trinary classifications for a variable is well accepted in
    statistics. This is a minor point which really doens't get to the
    crux of the matter being discussed. Obviously you haven't heard of
    logistic models which treat binary variables as the dependent
    variables in analysis, this is a widely used technique

I think the point of criticism here is that the study was publicized as
using the same criteria for determining loanworthiness as the bankers
did (or--ahem--said they did). Certainly, though, the bankers don't
treat income as a binary variable; why should a study that alleges
to model bankers' behavior do so?

krb: [...] What the data clearly shows is that Blacks are being rejected
    at a far greater rate then whites gfiven the same credit history and
    assets, and the differences are vastly significant ACROSS THE BOARD.

All I know about this study is what I've read in the newspapers, and
the newspapers have been extremely superficial. However, the _Boston
Globe_ managed to print something that looked like actual numbers taken
from the study: "when everything on an application was virtually equal
except for race, minorities were rejected 17 percent of the time,
versus 11 percent for whites." While that may well be statistically
significant, calling a 17% rejection rate ``far greater'' than 11% is,
well, stretching things a bit. Such a difference would be reprehensible
(assuming the study isn't fundamentally flawed), but KRB104's
rhetorical overkill is uncalled for.
-- 
-- Paul A. Sand           | I have no faith that the obvious pointlessness
-- Univ. of New Hampshire | of some program is any effective deterrent to a
-- pas@kepler.unh.edu     | government's tendency to pursue it.
			  |     (Alan S. Watt, comp.org.eff.talk)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,sci.econ
From: aa568@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vicki Schmotzer)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Discrimination today
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:04:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I won't even bother repeating the garbage spewed in this post.
I just wanted to say that I wasn't surprised that the person who
posted it chose to remain anonymous.

Vicki Schmotzer               The world is but one country, 
                              and mankind its citizens.
                                                         Baha'u'llah
--
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:04:01 EST
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Chinese racism towards Blacks

  Mr. Wei's unsubstantiated and racist attitude towards Blacks is extremely
eye-opening.  First of all I want to publicly state that he is 100% wrong
about Blacks believes in racial educational quotas (without which,he says,
we wouldn't make it to college).  I am sure I do not have to comment on
this here, meaning I hope that ALL of you see how ludicrous this statement is
(just like saying that without racial quotas there wouldn't be any white
players in the NBA).  The statement is about the most racist and incorrect
statement I have ever seen on this network and I will leave it at that.
  But as a sociologist I have to look at how someone got such a warped idea of
the Black community.  If it is true that Mr. Wei is from China, then one can
only guess that his attitude is based on the pictures he gets from American
television and the American media.  This is why in Japan there is such a warped
view of us African-Americans.  It is sad.
   On the other hand if Mr. Wei is from the U.S., then I offer no excuses for
his warped views.  His view that Asians are discriminated against more then
Blacks in this country is highly debatable.  His point that Blacks discriminate
against asians is also ludicrous.  There may be some animosity among Blacks
towards some ASians, but I don't think it is universal, or even a majority.
This thread has been gone over again and again, and there is no point in
arguiing it again.
Kevin
Xref: sparky alt.discrimination:4602 sci.econ:8472
From: poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Re: Discrimination today
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:39:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.125039.13787@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Wouldn't.you.like.to.know@bored.com (The Plain Truth) writes:
>
>  We live in a world where jobs are given not on the basis of merit, but
>the color of one's skin. This also holds true for College admissions as
>well. What is the government doing about this? In anwser to my own


Absolutely right!  College admissions are not based on merit and are 
based on other factors which have nothing to do with the qualifications
required for an educational institution.  It's called intercollegiate
athletics and it's making a mockery of our education system.

paul
From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Sad Day for Liberty
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:27:01 GMT
	<1992Nov6.081944.2669@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Nov6.224701.6781@fid.morgan.com>
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: sethb@fid.morgan.com's message of 6 Nov 92 22:47:01 GMT



>I'm not saying that anybody is actually planning this, or even that it
>will happen.  I'm in favor of laws banning discrimination on
>irrelevant grounds, provided they don't allow statistical "proof" of
>discrimination.

>To those who are going to say "This company hasn't hired and X's,
>therefore they must be discriminating.  Why won't you allow that as
>proof?"  I'll say "Show me one X who applied and was more qualified
>than candidates they did hire.  The existence of such a person implies
>discrimination; if you can't find one, then tell me _precisely who_
>they discriminated against."

I must beg to differ.  I do not believe that this implies
discrimination, however I think that if this systematically happened
over a period of time to several people then something could be up.

For example, I have interviewed people that have been extremely well
qualified (technically), more so than others, but that most people in
the company would have had an extremely hard time working with.  All
of this is true for people of any race, creed, color, religion, etc.
Qualifications alone do not make someone appropriate for a position.
Attitude and personality go along with it.  You cannot simply judge a
person by their resume (even if all the resumes are totally accurate
portrayals of their technical ability)!!!

-Carl-
--
Xref: sparky alt.discrimination:4600 sci.econ:8465
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,sci.econ
Subject: Re: Mortgage bias
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:41:43 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <92302.070117KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>  In a Federal Reserve Bank of Boston study, rejection disparities were found
>to be prevalent among lenders in its region, EVEN WHEN FACTORS OTHER THAN
>INCOME (like collateral available and credit history) are considered.

You say other factors than income are considered, but I don't see them
considered in that stats below.  For that matter, I wasn't aware that
income was a binary variable ("low" or "high").  What was the cutoff?
Do banks really judge $49,999 incomes differently from $50,000 incomes
if $50K was the cutoff?

>  This conversation has come up on this network plenty of times, with some
>people arguing that this is so because Blacks and Hispanics have poorer
>credit history (though I have never seen data on this) and less collateral than
>whites.  I think this study shuts those people up.  What they found was that
>among highincome applicants, 9.7% of whites were rejected, 13.6% of Asians,
>19.l8% of Hispanics, and 23.2% of blacks.    Among low income applicants,
>31.5% of whites, 20.2% of Asians, 37.1% of Hispanics and 48.2% of Blacks.
>The overall rate was 14.2% of whites, 12.8% of Asians, 21.4% of Hispanics and
>33.6% of blacks (these numbers are for 1990).

Are you arguing that white bankers discriminate against whites in favor
of Asians?  Sounds kind of counterintuitive.

Still waiting for a study that's honest.... The complete lack of one
makes me suspect that if someone did an honest study, there would be
no evidence of racism, which is why we only see the bogus studies...
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Xref: sparky alt.comics.lnh:173 rec.arts.comics.misc:6652
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: LNH: 501 BLUES/RATTLER HIDE SPECIAL #2--ELECTROCUTIONER'S SONG PT.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:45:01 GMT

I'm beginning to suspect the 6-foot telepathic cockroaches have been feeding 
you guys my ideas.  That makes TWO trading cards I planned to do that have been
usurped.  Well, at least I know that none of you can guess my part 12 card....
     Dave Van Domelen, you too can look like Hannibal Lecter with the new 
neoprene half-masks!
Newsgroups: alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc