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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:01:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.162437.27328@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.032137.2700@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>In article <fortony.712377814@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>>lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan) writes:
>>>I'm sure that in China, or in any other civilized competing country, the
>>
>>But the degree is different. In China, a lot of more focus was on the 
>>champion, as I rememberred. 
>
>Of course Chinese TVs are equally or more biased and have their
>attention mostly on Chinese  players.  But Chinese TVs have

In sports, they at least allowed us to watch champions' perfermances,
as well as their faces. They didn't say sour words like drug abuse
or "machine" like. What is the standard for the use of the "more"
from? Being biased on TV is reasonable, going too far is childish.

>the communist tradition (rule) not reporting negative things.

There is never the superidealistic communism existing in this world.

The tradition can be stemmed back to thousands of years ago, 
when bad news began to be afraided of being reported to emperors.
From: CHEN@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: To Xiang Youqing from HUST
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:17:33 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

Hi, Youqing;
    We have lost touch for a long time. I was told that our former supervisor
Prof. Li Langru is going to visit USA  recently. Please give me more detail
about his journey.


from Chen Shi Xin
From: ytsou@usc.edu (Yi-Jen Tsou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: HAKKA Studies
Date: 27 Jul 1992 09:52:39 -0700
Organization: National Chengchi University, Taipei
Distribution: world
Expires: September 1, 1992
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opportunity.
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Three Ladies Walk Together ...
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:51:36 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

    In <199207211413.AA03521@thames.bu.edu> (21 Jul 92) lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
writes,

> No, your revisionist view has been wisely foreseen by Dr. Johnny.  After
> a brief discussion with me, he [Dr. Johnny] called Dr. Cang who was in
> charge of making characters.  "Hi, Lao Cang, please make three Nuu together
> a bad word!"

    Lix, I wish you were just kidding :-).  Otherwise, you are going to face
some long-standing historical wrath.

    If my memory serves, the character of three Nuu evoluted from two Nuu
in the left, and a man in the right (represented by his weapon) -- hence
the meaning: a man forces women to submit to his power.  And you know what
happens thereafter.

    Old Cang was a good man.  Even he was compelled to take away man's part
and substitute it with a third Nuu, he preserved the original character in
a even stronger form -- make the left be only one Nuu.  Now, if you assault
_a_ woman, you Zuo4 _Jian1_ Fan4 Ke1 (commit crime and violate law).  This
character Jian1, is still widely used today.

> Nowadays, it seems nobody knows why three Nuu is a bad word, I myself almost
> forgot this episode, time and tide never wait...

So nowadays we are living in a society much less hostile to women, aren't we?

    Wish no man will again call women lesbian after his violating them, as
some guys in the ancient China seemed to do.

> Gee, me too!
>
> Seems that Lesbian 3-way has been condemned ever since the ancient China. ;-)
>
> --
> Xiaoyu Li

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: jjs@iedv7.acd.com ( James J. Song       )
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:56:08 GMT

In article <fortony.712477195@murphy>, fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
|> 
|> I'll stand by the "interesting" statement.  The contest in question was
|> completely dominated by the Chinese diver.  She crushed everyone else
|> with technically perfect dives, got out of the pool, and did it again.
|> I don't find it interesting.  Deal with it.

Deal with what? Other athletes are dying to be as perfect as the Chinese 
diver. That is what they have spent all their lives for. 

You does have a twisted mind, do you know that? Those athletes would  
surely beat the hell out of you if you ever had an opportunity to tnell 
them you enjoy watching their not being perfect.
___
From: lls@luddite.sybase.com (Larry L. Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Testing
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:26:56 GMT
Reply-To: lls@luddite.sybase.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Keywords: 
This is test. please ignore!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: zzang@whale.stat.ufl.edu (Zhuo Zang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: China News
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:08:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of LAS, UFL


7/29:
Last night ABC news, China has signed a contract with the big three 
auto-makers worth of $130 million for auto parts supplies by the 
end of this year. I am very glad to hear this news. Our homeland's
economy looks very strong to be able to do such a big trade with US, 
and certainly, it will also be benificial to the US.
Another news I got from the People's Daily, is about a contract with 
Chevron for providing compressor oil for the airplanes, and this 
contract will last for many years.
God bless you, China.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: lug@oak.ppc.ubc.ca (Guoqiano Lu)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: University of B.C. Pulp & Paper Centre
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.192411.20300@athena.mit.edu>, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul30.004703.25621@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
|> 
|> |>        At least Chinese team did not carry HIV to Olympia, U.S.'s did.
|> |>        U.S.'s gym team is as young as China's Diving Team. NBC were trying to 
|> |>   portraying China's atheletes the way you describe! That is Americans'
|> |>    sour_grape mentality! 
|> 
|> I can't say that I find it surprising that country which practically bans
|> sexuality and whose citizens have hardly any contact with the outside world
|> isn't bringing AIDs to the olympics.
|> 
|> I think we should admire the absence of HIV in the Communist Chinese Olympic
|> team. We should also note that some of the measures taken to prevent HIV are
|> done on a voluntary basis. After all, we Americans don't have the courage to
|> drown all of our female children. This voluntary action by Chineese parents
|> should be parised. Why, in a few decades, there will hardly be any women left,
|> thus dramatically cutting down on sex, thus preventing one of the primary
|> routes for the spread of aids.
|> 
|> Jason W. Solinsky

Firstly I must say that the HIV statement  about Magic Jonhson is being a bit offensive. A lot of 
people love Magic and appreciate his courage including me( iam Chinese and also a NBA fan).
  But your statement about Chinese birth control is also offensive. This could only show your no class.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Immigration and Legal Services For Chinese
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:22:26 GMT
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From: ruan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Steriods. (was Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal)
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:41:48 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Jul28.144525.24505@athena.mit.edu>, zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.102928.4460@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Huang) writes:
> |> Please understand that here I am not to accuse anyone using anything.  But
> |> please don't be too surprised if you have a good friend who graduated
> |> (or got an MS degree) from BeiJingTiYuXueYuan and works as scientist in 
> |> Guo2Jia1 Ti3Yu4 Ke1Yan2 Suo3 or as a trainer with a women's national 
> |> (cycling, T&F, swimming, skating...etc.) team, and he/she happens to tell
> |> you in a casual tone (you're good friends, right?) how those athletes are
> |> scheduled for their diet, training sessions, their periods, ... don't be
> |> too surprised if you hear how their muscles are developed, don't be too 
> |> surprised if your friend happens to know Ye QiaoBo (or some other 
> |> unfortunate ones who just got caught but never known by the public) and 
> |> tells you what actually happened.  Don't be too surprised when your 
> |> friend tell you why in many sports that require muscle strength Chinese
> |> girls did much better than guys (how many women's weightlifting world 
> |> records are held by Chinese?). Don't be surprised when your friend tells 
> |> you that in China AND MANY SPORT POWERHOUSE COUNTRIES there're scientists
> |> who work their butt off to find a way to NOT GET CAUGHT --all in the name
> |> of Ti3Yu4 Ke1Yan2........ Remember, sterois is only one of few drugs that
> |> listed in the test and there're tons of others out there which are "better
> |> for certain purposes", and there're tons of "scientists" all over the world.
> |> Unfortunately the fact in the 90's seems to be that there is much more
> |> BEHIND THE CAMERA than before, and if you're caught, you're just an unlucky 
> |> SOB that everybody would laugh at, but if you get away with it, well.....do
> |> we need to say more?
> |> --Andy
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> -- 
> |> =============================== Andy Huang <huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
> |> P.S. Thank you for reading my article. We may not share the same idea but I 
> |> respect whatever thoughts you may have. Please feel free to agree/disagree, 
> |> to laugh/criticize/protest. Or to use "kill", s'il vous plait.
> 
> 
> No! I won't be surprised! Just by looking at Zhuang Yong & Lin Li's bodies and 
> hearing their voice, I believe everything! :)
From: cnbs59@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:41:21 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

TESTING sorry
From: xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Yang won gold and broke world record
Keywords: Yang
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:24:04 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.china
Organization: Physics Dept, State U of New York at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260

/* From the keyboard of txu@lab2.ma.utexas.edu (Tao Xu) */:
:Yang Wenyi won 50m freestyle gold medal and broke world record (54'79?).
:Zhuang Yong won the silver medal

I am so gay !

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From: zuofeng@HYLAS.WUSTL.EDU (Zuofeng Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:32:29 GMT


In addition to complaining in SCC, why don't you folks put your
heads together [:-)] and write a  collective letter to Time to
express your feelings at the article and its author and annouce
your intention to cancel your subscription of the magazine?

Let your action speak for you.

-zuofeng
From: jcm@dalton (Jean Christophe MARTIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Seeking Penpals
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:53:24 GMT
Reply-To: J.C.Martin@frec.bull.fr
Organization: BULL Centre UNIX (SA) Echirolles France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi, everybody.
I apologize to wast your group with my post ...

I'm a french enginner in Computer Science, and I'm looking for some 
chinese Penpals, but not Email penpals. It could be great if somebody
give me addresses in China, or a way to collect them.
As I'm 27, I prefer to correspond with people under 30, interested in music and
preferably open minded.

Please reply by mail because our news feed is not very reliable.

Thanks.

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From: ZXIONG@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Zhongguo Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Proud and angry
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:01:51 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <Bs7L7C.Cy9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
shay@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (George Shay) writes:
 
>I believe it makes sense for NBC to concentrate on American Athletes, not
>on the athletes from the other countries simply because the audience are
>americans and *they* care whether the americans win. They do not care
>whoever else wins. I did not see a lot of Italian, French, Sweden athletes
>on the screen. You see, They have to please the people who watch the games.
>People are just that narrow-minded. That reminds me the days when Chinese
>women's V-ball team were still in the top edge, the CCTV broadcasted a lot
>of games in which Chinese women were, I did not see any V-ball team from
>africa on the CCTV screen, did not see any table tennis team from USA or
>South America on the CCTV screen.
>So you guys just take it easy and enjoy the game.
>
>
>
>>Yu Qing
 
After reading all these discussion about NBC coverage, I am wondering about
Chinese TV coverage. Would any one who watch 88 or 84' Games comment on this?
Specifically, how much coverage did Chinese TV give to athelets from other
country.
From: ZGAO@FINABO.ABO.FI
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: just a test
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:25:00 GMT

Hi, 
This is a test. ignore it please!
ZGAO
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: NBC olympic coverage
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:34:05 GMT

>In article 12277@athena.mit.edu, dethomas@athena.mit.edu (Drea E Thomas) writes:
>>... < some excellent comments are deleted >

>> This kind of arrogance/racism/xenophobia makes me ashamed
>>to be an american.       
>>...

Being an american is a nice thing to be proud of. No need to
be sorry for those biased kids. Cheer up, pray for a better coverage!

Sincerely,

Mr. Ah Q  II, a guy who can ocassionally find bright sides of the life.

:-((



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: NBC Commentators talking about China
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:33:25 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul28.043323.23313@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umwu0014@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Bo Wu) writes:
>In <1992Jul27.213259.29797@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@prometheus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>
>>kids swam 4-7 km a day, 7days a week.  In winter, we swam in a pool,
>>which was either too cold (17C degrees) or had too much chlorine (because
>
>     What is wrong with those kids who swam 7 days a week? Nobody is

I was just trying to show what method was used -- the major part of it was
hardness -- hard (and harsh) work.  I did not say what's wrong with it.

One problem with the system is that
it's denies the rights of the mass and put money on those ellites.
The athlets are previleged.  They can access to facilities which
others cannot.  There were two 50-meter pools and one diving pool for the
public near the center of the city.  Very nice pools.  Two of them might
meet Olympic standard.  But they were leveled up to make rooms for the
sport school.  However, the swimmers had other pools to practice, which
were mostly closed to the public.

The other problem is that it depends too much on hard (harsh) work --
muscle build up.  A 10-14 year-old boy will not have much muscles no
matter how hard he works, unless steroid is used.  A boy's body only
grows after 14 year old.  The hard(harsh) work is useless before that.

Most of the modern techniques were not introduced until China has openned up.
I believe the major reason that Chinese divers were not good at board events
was they did not have good boards to practice on.  They've had very good
techniques to suppress the water splashes.  The divers also benefit a lot
from their gymnistic backgrounds.  Many of them were first trained as
gymnistists.

Well, that's the East German (USSR) athletic system.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu)
Subject: Re: Steriods. (was Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:29:54 GMT

In article <65500007@acf3.NYU.EDU>, yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ze Yang,606 Meyer,(212)998-7728,                ) writes:
|> Maybe the Olympic Commitee should hire you to "look at" those athelets'
|> bodies and "hear" their voices to see if they use those prohibited
|> drugs.

Did you ever read the book "Qiang2(strong) Guo2(nation) Meng4(dream)" by Zhao Yu?
That will tell you guys sth about inside story. 

Current technologies often fail/even unable to dig out all the prohibits. 

|> 
|> I doubt if the poster is a feamale, she/he is too jealousy about those
|> girls.
|> 
|> Ze Yang
|> 

Maybe the Olympic Commitee should hire you to "check" the gender of those 
athelets.  :) :) Seems to me you don't even have to "look' or "hear" to
make a judgement. :) :) Maybe "smell"?  Who knows? :) :) :) :) hahaha, I
am really jealous on your "ability".  :)
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:14:35 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul30.153948.>@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>>
>>Have a heart, those girls give all their sweat and blood for the
>>gold/silver/bronze, and you sit there laughing at them?
>
>Yes, more than that.  They also give their bodies, marriages and 
>family lives so that you can say "I'm proud of being a Chinese."

Thanks for mentioning that. I for one feel really hard to jump
and joy the "proud" feelings that expressed here by many netter.
We have to reallize that most Chinese athlets are backed by a 
Sports Machine that runs like a military machine, and most
American athletes are on their own and have a life out of the
sports they play.

>We are not here to laugh at them.  We feel sorry for them.  We do
>not like to see that they have to sacrify their bodies, marriage
>and family lives to satisfy our selfish pride (more of A-Q pride).
>
>The meaning of Olympic is not for the medal, not for our selfish
>pride and not for cruel body abuse, but rather for the upward

Agree.
From: xh@uirvlg.csl.uiuc.edu (Xiao Ping Hu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Olive Tree
Date: 23 Jul 1992 19:37:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: uirvlg.csl.uiuc.edu
Summary: A translation
Keywords: Olive Tree, San Mao

		Olive Tree
			Original by Three Hairs
			Translated by Xiaoping Hu

	"Don't ask where I am from --
	 My home is faraway --
	 Why should I roam, roam away, roam?

	 For the sweet stream in the mountain,
	 For the birds lingering in the trees,
	 For a kiss to my prairie,
	 Roam to afar, roam.

	 And still more and more,
	 For the olive tree in my dream,
	 O, for that olive tree,
	 Roam to afar, roam.
	
	 Don't ask where I am from --
	 My home is faraway --
	 Why should I roam, roam away?

	 For the olive tree in my dream,
	 O, for that olive tree ..."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: 4 Chuan and China
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:51:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.150111.26093@dsg.tandem.com> leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:
>
>I think the original one is
>  Xian Tian Xia Zhi You Er You
>  Hou  Tian Xia Zhi Le  Er Le
>I think it is from Fan4 Zhong4 Yan1, but not sure.
>
Yap. From his Yue Yang Lou Ji.

>Steven
>------
Tingli Pan
From: ruan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:27:09 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Jul28.165639.6557@umbc3.umbc.edu>, yzhang@math12.math.umbc.edu (Yin Zhang) writes:
> In article <13802@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca 
> (Sanyee Tang) writes:
>>
>>    Zhuang Yong's physique looks exactly like Li's.  Fortunately, the Silver
>>Medallist Jenny Thompson is a fair-looking girl, it convinced me that Zhuang's
>>record is reachable for women.
>>
> 
> What record are you talking about?  Is Jenny Thompson the one who is
> holding that world record?
> 
> I assume that the Chinese female swimmers in the contests all have
> passed the gender test and drug test.  So a gold medal is a gold
> medal.  Remember this is Olympics, not one of those Miss Universe
> contests where the prettiest girl wins.
> 
>