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From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: tangled mess
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:54:44 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <92100.122937AVB100@psuvm.psu.edu>, AVB100@psuvm.psu.edu (Adam Broughton) writes:
|> 
|>       I just bought a new shimmono reel last year and have had nothing but
|> trouble from it since.   The reel runs smoothly but it constantly tangles the
|> line. The most common scenario is that the line gets wrapped around the releasee
|> button on the front of the spool rather than on the spool itself.  this usually
|> results in a very large tangle.  Any suggestions would be apreciated.

I have 4 shimano MK II-Q reels, same problem, sometimes the line can 
wind on the spool quick-release  button.  To prevent this, don't start 
reeling with a slack line.  Raise your rod tip or pinch the line with 
your index finger and thumb or something like this.  The problem of 
line winding on the quick-release is particularly bad when fishing something 
light that you twitch alot such as a rubber top water frog or a small 
stick bait (spook etc).  

If you pay attention to your lure you should notice when it does not come 
in while reeling, so stop before the line gets twisted.

Finally, I just bought a new shimano reel and it has a recessed 
quick release button.


You'll get used to it.

		-Pat
From: templin@grayling.cs.berkeley.edu (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Fly Line to 2lb test (beginner)
Date: 10 Apr 1992 22:11:49 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, University of California Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

Re: glues

I'd actually tried this technique for a while, but had a leader pull
out of the fly line once. I then learned the hard way the fact that
some super glues are water soluble. One brand that isn't water soluable
is called: "Zap-a-Gap". I picked up a tube at a fly shop a while back,

Fred

P.S.
Anymore, I push a needle through the first 1/2" of fly line as earlier
suggested, then draw the leader butt up through the fly line and tie a
nail-less nail knot there. I got a bit too scared of having the leader
pull out of the fly line at inopportune times...
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Fred L. Templin
(templin@grayling.Berkeley.EDU)

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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: gold plated reels
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:22:34 GMT

Damned yuppie baitcasters don't actually *fish*
with these reels - they use them as hood ornaments
on their Land Rovers. I tell ya, next they'll be
using brie for catfish bait...
From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Fly Line to 2lb test (beginner)
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:58:37 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Apr7.202710.4761@cbnews.cb.att.com> mak@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.a.kelly) writes:
>
>I just bought a fly rod, and have never used one before.
>
                              .
                 [stuff about leader knots...]
                              .
			     
Mark,

    The knot you should be using to tie the leader material to your
    fly line is a 'nail knot'. Done properly this is a beautifull
    knot - always wet it before drawing it tight. I started out using
    Trileen (as I recall...) packaged tapered leaders tied direct
    to the fly line with a nail knot (trim the 'loop' from the leader).

    Ask the sports pro at your local shop or the Cormundgon down at
    the river to show you how to tie the knot. Blood knots are for tieing
    your own leaders......


			      --
jdw%sniff.wfo.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com      |
whittemore@wfodev.enet.dec.com            |    The opinions expressed herein are
"I've got thirteen channels of SHIT       |    mine alone and in no way reflect
 on the T.V. to chose from" - Pink Floyd  |
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: nelson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Nelson)
Subject: Re: Nail knots & Stuff
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:54:07 GMT

In article <5038@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> terryt@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Terry tURner) writes:
>
>	and 4 lb to 6 lb test depending on potential fish size.  I use lead
>	core line when I need to troll deeper than about 15 to 20 feet.  If
>	the fish are shallower, I will stick with my ultra light spinning rod.
>
>	Lead core line is a lot like fly line.  I try to use the smallest 
>	test available, so far the smallest I've found is 10#.  If I ever
>	decide to buy a downrigger, I can ditch the "dead" core stuff fishing
>	for trout.
>
>	Terry
>
>--
>Terry Turner		   If people paid more attention to the really
>terryt@tekig5.pen.tek.com  important things in life, there would be a serious
>503-627-5630               shortage of fishing poles. 


Last September '91 I fished a lake where lead-core was the preferred
line (outside of flyfishing).

The standard rig was to use a fly rod with all ring eyelets,
fly reel and lead-core.

Attached to the lead-core was 90 - 100 feet of "leader" and if
then at the end of that your real leader (tippet or whatever).

The idea being that after hooking the fish and reeling in the lead core
you have 100 feet of line to actually play the fish.

The water was also very clear so that was part of the rational for
using the long "leader".

The fish camp sold this type of outfit for a reasonable price but
I did not use it.

Mike N.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: stetzer@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Frank Stetzer)
Subject: Re: advice on fly lines?
Originator: stetzer@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:14:53 GMT



>From: jschultz@athena.mit.edu (Joseph M Schultz)

>I need to buy a fly line -- actually, two lines, since I just got a
>new reel.  I'd appreciate any and all comments on what's good, what to
>avoid, etc.  After looking around for a little wh ile, I have a few
>specific questions:
             ...
>2. Is Cortland's 333 line, cheapest that I've seen (sorry -- cheap is 
>      important right now!), a good deal, or cheap junk?  Conversely, 
>      is Cortland's 444 line twice as good (being about twice ass
>      expensive)?

I think the Cortland 333 line is a fine line.  I tried a 444SL during
the 1990 season and was very disappointed.  First, the line is unusually
large in diameter; a 6 weight line looks like an 7 weight too me.
This means you have to have a little extra reel capacity to hold it.
The Cortland lines are also longer than most other brands, notably
Scientific Anglers.  Second, the line was absolutely ruined by the 
first bit of bug repellant that got near it.  Any fly line will be
damaged by bug dope, and I try my best to keep it off my hands, but
I tend to fish during the night in swampy trout streams and the bugs 
are really bad.  Sci Ang lines I have used (mostly Air Cell Supreme)
are not nearly as easily damaged as the 444SL.

>4. Is Lee Wulff's Triangle Taper line as good as the guy in the 
>      fly shop claimed for roll casting?

After the 444SL disaster I tried a triangle taper.  I love it.  I 
don't do a lot of roll casting, but for nymph fishing it mends 
wonderfully.  If I need distance, I can get it.  I do a lot of
different kinds of fishing basically with one rod and not the 
greatest casting skills, and it seems the perfect line for me.   
Its made by Sci Ang, I've been told.

Everybody is different in their skills and the type of fishing
they do.  I hope this is helpful.
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Frank Stetzer                                         stetzer@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Statistical Software Coordinator                      P.O. Box 413
Computing Services Division                           Milwaukee, WI 53201
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee                   (414)-229-4571

From: glenn@hplred.HP.COM (Ed Glenn)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:18:04 GMT
Subject: Re: GIF pictures of bass
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: alt.fishing

 Same here. I cant get alt.bianaries. Can you copy into alt.fishing?
From: terryt@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Terry tURner)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: 2 piece rod(s)
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:32:35 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <92105.13155534MD4AK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 34MD4AK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Rick LaFay) writes:
>My opinion of two piece rods is that I don't care for them. I once
>lost a nice salmon because a two piece rod broke at the junction.
>admittedly it was not an expensive rod but...
>
	I think that is the point exactly.  Good quality rods have well designed
	ferrules that fit pretty well and don't break under pressure.  
	Admittedly the action on a 2 piece rod will not be as good as a 1 piece
	rod but they shouldn't break or come apart.  If the rod is stressed
	past it's capacity then it is likely it will break at the ferrule.

	A glass or a molded ferrule is overwrapped with thread which will be
	stiffer than the unwrapped section of the rod and will likely break
	there.  The ferrule should be designed to meet or exceed the capacity
	of the rod.  Metal ferrules are a no brainer, the rod will break
	just above the ferrule because of the large difference in flex 
	between the metal and the glass.

	So if you want the taper to be consistent the whole length of the rod,
	then get a 1 piece.  Ferrules are a compromise for ease of storage
	and transportation.  Fast taper rods are affected less than slow tapers
	since fast taper rods flex primarily at the tip.

	Terry

>For strong fighting fish I would stay away from them. For medium bass
>and bluegills I guess they are fine.  I have in days gone by cast
>and had the end come off. Then I usually get some large fish to take
>my bait as I am trying to retrieve the other half of my rod. Oh well..
>
>
>Rick LaFay             rlafay on BIX            ACIS COMPUTERS
>(517) 773-6490                                   (616) 587-8827
>MT. PLEASANT MICH                                MANCELONA, MICH


--
Terry Turner		   If people paid more attention to the really
terryt@tekig5.pen.tek.com  important things in life, there would be a serious
503-627-5630               shortage of fishing poles.
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Beginner looking for rod
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:32:50 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Apr17.011832.17635@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, dak@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (David Kardelis- I am the NRA) writes:
|> 
|> 	Several people said I forgot to mention what kind of fishing 
|> I would be doing in my request for a rod.
|>  The last time I went fishing I 
|> caught a 10" bass that was the biggest a friend had seen in ages.

Maybe you should consider stamp collecting (or moving)...

 Pike-	:{} 
 Bass-  8[]
 Carp-  :()
				Pat-  :(
From: night@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Mark W Nightingale)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Oregon/Washington fishing trouble??
Keywords: population
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:22:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

(Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
>dixon@spot.Colorado.EDUwrites:
>>Yeah, I have to agree...population growth is the root of all the
>>problems. 
>
>No, not necessarily. Lack of spawning grounds, wetlands, habitat is probably
>more important. 

Now, ask yourself why there is a lack of spawning grounds, wetlands and screwed
up habitat...

It comes from population growth.

I think Dixon is right... Population growth is THE ROOT of it all.

Mark Nightingale
From: ka@nhl-1.nhl.sintef.no (Knut Tore Alfredsen)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: re : fly lines
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:25:19 GMT
Reply-To: ka@nhl.sintef.no
Organization: NHL

In article <1992Apr6.135645.13355@apollo.hp.com>, cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
|> >
|> >4. Is Lee Wulff's Triangle Taper line as good as the guy in the 
|> >      fly shop claimed for roll casting?
|> Haven't tried it, but I like a DT line for roll casts, especially in real
|> small streams, and you can buy one a lot cheaper than a TT.
|> 
|> I was wondering if we should give reports on various lines we may try
|> during a season. Sure, different casters will like different lines, but
|> it may be helpful to hear others' experiences before shelling out the
|> (gag) $40 for a top end line. 

I have used a Triangle Taper 8/9 for several season (on rods rated 8/9), and I like it very much. 
It is very good for roll casting, I also like it for Spey casting with a single handed rod. In 
addition to this it is also good for distance casting. For the coming season I have decide to try
one of the SA Mastery steelhead lines, they look promising.

A comment on price, if I go to my local tackle shop to buy a triangle taper the price equals $90, the
SA Mastery and Ultra lines are even more expensive.

-- 
Knut Alfredsen                                   |  Mail  : ka@nhl.sintef.no
From: mak@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.a.kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Fly Line to 2lb test (beginner)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:27:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I need help, am I missing something?

I just bought a fly rod, and have never used one before.

I am trying to tie my 2lb leader to my fly line.  I have been trying
to use a blood knot.  Is this what I should be attempting, or should
I tie heavier mono to the fly line with the blood knot, and then the
heavy mono to the 2lb?

Thanks in advance.
Mark 

-- 

Mark Kelly - AT&T Bell Labs  Columbus, Ohio

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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: dvadams@einsteinmitre.org (David V Adams)
Subject: Re: GIF pictures of bass 
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:40:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.135422.4363@ssd.kodak.com>, kcw@kodak.com writes:
> 
> A color GIF pictures of smallmouth bass and a large mouth bass (eyeing a
> stick bait) was posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc.
> 
> Makes a nice screen background for a fisherman.
> 
> 

How do I get this onto my workstation?  I'd love to have it.  Please help.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 10:55:12 EST
From: <SYST8136@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: St.John's NFLD. Fishing Holes

Does anybody out there know of any good angling areas in and around
St. John's NFLD?  I'm interested in freshwater species.  I'll be in
the area in early June.  Are licences required?  Are tackle restrictions
in effect?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: mjk11@po.CWRU.Edu (Mary J. Knowles)
Subject: Great Lakes water quality reports available free by mail
Reply-To: mjk11@po.CWRU.Edu (Mary J. Knowles)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:21:35 GMT



For a posting describing how to get free reports on Great Lakes environmental
issues, including water quality reports, see the posting with the subject
line "Great Lakes Fact Sheets" in alt.great-lakes.
-- 
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Mary J. Knowles                          Internet: mjk11@po.cwru.edu
Shaker Heights, Ohio USA
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fleck@col.hp.com ()
Subject: Re: What Gives with the Gunnison?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:36:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs Information Technology Center

Sounds like a the old "we decided to let alot of water out fo the Dam"
scenario.  This has happened in a few spots on the South Platte lately.
From: trudel@aucs.acadiau.ca (Andre Trudel)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: keeping worms alive
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:47:54 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


I'd like to keep a few dozen worms alive in my beer fridge
(what else do you keep in a fridge besides worms and beer?).
The goal is to keep them alive for an extended period of time
so that I always have worms handy to go fishing.

They are currently in a small plastic pail full of earth.
What would be the best container and soil? What should
they be fed? I seem to recall that they like coffee grounds
and lettuce???
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: sasayb@caneel.unx.sas.com (Andy Barnhart)
Subject: Honesty, the best policy...
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:03:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Originator: sasayb@caneel.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 1000

I attended a fishing club meeting last night, where one of the topics which
was reported on was legislation in process. One of the club members is on a
panel for a particular bill. One thing he mentioned was the poor information
that government agencies have about fishing. One of the main reasons is that
fishermen sometimes give less than acurate reports (nah, not us!) when asked
about catches. These numbers are then used to decide whether or not the resource
is in trouble. This means if you infate your report, you are saying OK to
high commercial limits and no to stocking (which is often the right answer,
but that's another story for another soap box). Unfortunately, the people
who have accurate data are pros, who usually catch a lot of fish, and skew
the numbers. If you aren't catching very many fish, keep track of the numbers,
write a letter and turn them in to the fisheries people in your area. They
want data, not just opinions. And it needs to be true.
OK, off my soapbox...

Andy
From: RGDURH01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (FLORIDIOT)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Mass Suicide Part 2
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:23:37 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11



Fish Committing Mass Suicide part 2:

	I fished the Ohio River the last few days, dodging thunderstorms.  
wednesday was the most hectic; almost 100 fish in about three hours.  On
the flip side (sort of) I went there yesterday, and began removing my U/L
spinning rod and 6 wt. fly rod from the cab of my pickup.  It was VERY
windy!  Yep, my built-it-myself-four-weeks-ago IM6 6 wt. instantly became 
2 inches shorter at the ferrule.   I tossed the remains of the fly rod back 
in the truck and gathered up the spinning rod, cursing someone or something.  
Did I mention that I broke the tip off my other U/L rod the day before?  I've 
broken three rods in my whole life.  Two in two days.  After about two hours, 
I had a much heavier hit than the dozens of 4 oz. to 1 lb. white bass.  This 
hulk dove for a nearby submerged bush and repeatedly swam around and through it.
Several minutes later, a woman nearby scooped it up in a net....a 4 lb. 
hybrid Whiterock Bass on 4 lb. test.  
	
	As for expensive equipment, I stopped at Sports Unlimited later and
purchased a replacement for the deceased 6 wt.  I wound up with a Sage
Discovery 9 ft. 6 wt.  This is a dandy rod.  It may not be as light and
powerful as the RPL's, but at half the price it's sure isn't half the rod.
If I had it to do over, I may have ended up with 3 Discovery rods.

Rick "I've spent so much on tackle I HAVE to go to the Keys" Durham
From: Tim Dudley
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Catch and Release
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:52:09 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1992Apr13.211340.2470@col.hp.com> fleck@col.hp.com writes:

>
>A  few  questions  or  more  like  a  survey  to  enlighten  (Wildlife
>management major in college ( don't ask why I am in computers now)) me
>on how this net population perceives fishing.
>
>Do you fish for sport or subsistence or both?
       sport only, now, used to be for subsistence only.
>Do you feel that since you fish you have to keep the fish? (world perception)
       not any more.
>Do you feel Catch and Release makes a difference?
       I don't see how it can help but make a difference
>Would you like to see more Catch and Release only water?
       I think that depends on the fishery
>Do you think you can make a difference by using Catch and Release?
       see above...
>Do you fish for Trophies only? and do you keep them?
       I fish for the enjoyment of fishing.  I kept the biggest fish I ever
       caught, took it home, had it smoked, and ate it. (It was the best 
       smoked trout I've ever had)
>Do you feel the waters in your area are declining or rising?
       Depends on what you mean.  The quality of water is deteriorating,
       but there seems to be plenty of fish.
>What methods of control are used on these waters?
       Standard provincial fishing regulations.  No catch-and-release,
      no trophy water, etc...
>Are we ever going to have a president that gives a Damn?
      I sure hope so!
Living where I am now, the water is so polluted that catch-and-release
is more an act of (my) self-preservation than anything else.  When I was a
kid, I lived in the Rockies, and had plentiful, challenging, healthy fishing
within short driving distances, and we used to fish (and hunt) for our meals.
The only fish I ever remember killing and not eating were suckers that 
we'd cut up and use for bait, or occasionally  toss back into the brush for the
bears and/or racoons.  The general rule was "if you kill it, you eat it".
I have no qualms at all about catching my supper, and in fact, am a little
bothered by the idea of sport fishing.  However, I have rationalized that,
and now just enjoy the fishing.

Interesting questions - it'll be interesting to see what kind of concensus 
you get from them.

Tim
From: templin@grayling.cs.berkeley.edu (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Droppers, fly fishing, and the way to do it
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:17:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s21n6INN1vr
Organization: UC Berkeley, University of California Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

My philosophy is that two are almost always better than one in
situations where you're searching for the right nymph pattern
or where a major hatch (caddis, mayfly, midge, others) is underway
and the fish are feeding on more than one stage of the insect. (e.g.
mayfly emergers and duns). I've learned from this conference that
it's also a good idea to fish a "string" of grasshoppers and I'd
venture to guess that it would also be dynamite to try a rig such
as you suggest,

Fred


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Fred L. Templin
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From: roa@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert O. Anderson)
Subject: Nags Head
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:47:19 GMT

Report???

        My father-in-law will be in Nags Head next week and was wondering
about the fishing. Does anyone know or heard anything about the fishing
in the Nags Head area of the Outer Banks?? Thanks

Bobby

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