HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tt@wag.caltech.edu (Toshi Takeuchi)
Subject: Sickness and Meditation/Retreats
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:03:35 GMT

I was talking (over the net) to a friend of mine, and she said that
she, too, gets some wierd symptoms/sicknesses right before a long
retreat with her teacher.

I'm assuming that we aren't the only ones who get sick before weekend
retreats etc...

	Why is it that these illnesses occur before and during
	these retreats?

To tell you a little about what happens to me, I get hemorrhoids and 
occasionally other stomach illnesses about a week before I'm 
going to leave.

	Any of you guys have some theories about this occurence?
	Anyone else have such experiences?

Toshi
tt@wag.caltech.edu

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 10:54:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Please disregard the information about the Ruins of the 30,000 Year
Old City. It should have been entered under the subject of Ley Lines.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
Subject: Re: The Adam and Eve Thing
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:06:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.105556.15761@cbnews.cb.att.com> wcsa@cbnews.cb.att.com (willard.smith) writes:

>   Gen iii:22  And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us,
>   knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand
>   and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.

Right on, Mr Smith!  In fact, if you read the Genesis account of the Fall
very closely, you'll see that Satan tells the truth, and God lies.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Mon,  7 Sep 92 06:49:44 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject Ex-CIA Pilot:
  There is a person who once was  a CIA pilot in Southeast Asia, a 30 year air line pilot and the son of the person who invented the same jet planes that are used by rich people. His name is John Lear. lately he has been saying quite a few things about our government in the press. It's all public information. Here are a few things he is saying;  The U.S. government has recovered more than 40 flying saucers belonging to alien civilizations far beyond our solar system. And Navy pilots have successfully flown

 several of these craft under a secret program begun in the mid-1950s. The remains of as many as 100 captive Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBEs), representing as many as 15 different species, are being secretly preserved in cryogenic storage. 
 The U.S. has established secret bases on the moon and on Mars, with NASA's Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Spacelab and Shuttle projects just smoke screens for what's really been going on. 
 John Lear didn't give UFOs much thought until a friend of his told him the truth about the Brentwaters Air Force Base Incident near London, England in late 1980. After that he started to piece together facts about what He believed to be a massive but well-intentioned cover-up by the U.S. government. He said he discovered that working behind a cloak of ultrasecrecy, the U.S. many years ago granted the aliens permission to abduct humans in exchange for their superadvanced technology. He believes that at thi

s moment , there are at least 70 different species of aliens on Earth performing an infinite variety of missions and there are also secrtet alien underground bases on American soil.
Source of information:Sept. 8, 1992 Examiner.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:38:01 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Suggesters: I'll have to admit your suggestions have merit.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.consciousness,alt.dreams,alt.drugs,alt.mindcontrol,alt.psychoactives
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: chrysalis by Peter Reich
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 00:12:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na

pbreton@cs.umb.edu (Peter Breton) writes:
: 
:   Also curious if anyone's built any orgone boxes, Hieronymous devices, 
: or anything else besides the typical light-and-sound fare. AND, what's 
: the dirt on the various PC mind machines? Is there hardware out there that

What is a PC mind machine? I've seen mice that respond like a 
biofeedback system, and a headband of electrodes that you can
put on and it makes pictures on a computer screen....

: does this kind of thing already? Let's get a little discussion going...
: 
:   Peter

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
From: doug@uuisis.isis.org (Doug Thompson)
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:30:02 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

>   After leaving the bait out for about 3 days something came along and plucke
> off the middle apple (the one that was about 12 feet above the  ground). It 
> also ate the two apples that were on the ground and didn't even leave the 
> apple cores. The apple stem was left on the string.

Next time, John, have that string tied to a switch that can trigger a
camera, and put a camera with a flash and a wide angle lens in the tree
to cover the area.  That way you know if it was a ten year old Boy Scout
with his Scout staff or a Sasquatch that collected the bait. 

If it is a Sasquatch, it probably won't know what a camera is and
probably won't disturb your equipment. If the camera and the apples are
missing, I think you can postulate a member of homo sapiens with a stick
:-).

Ok - so use a cheap camera!

Then you can digitize the photos, uuencode them, and post them to the
newsgroup :-).

=Doug

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 08:16:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: Singles Bar.
  If you had gone to Peoria, PA, USA, in Dec. 4, 1990 you would have seen a 
phenomena happening that may be still going on today. A lady by the name of 
Connie Cook plays the electric piano in a very out of this world way. It 
seems that she had a sighting of a UFO back in l981. She says that she saw 
an unidentified flying object whose passengers later entered her 
conciousness and inspired her music. The music sounds sort of like a dreamy 
type of jazz and soft rock fusion with lyrics-translated from the language 
of the pleiades star cluster where the aliens claim to come from.  The words 
of one of the songs sound like this;
"By and by we learn to fly
Within each other's heart.
Space and time the ancient rhyme 
Is overcome in our hearts."
  Ms. Cook has had her pianos (she has more than one) tuned to produce notes 
that sound vaguely Far Eastern or even from beyond.
    Ms. Cook says her first close encounter came late one night in Nov. 1981, 
when a gleaming, globe-shaped craft hovered slilently outside her bedroom 
window for about 90 minutes. Mesmerized, she returned to bed when it left.  
Soon after, she dreamed of seeing four shiny people with indistinct features 
sort of in the sky. She later dreamed the four beings were at her bedside, 
stroking her hands and predicting a time of good will for the earth's 
peoples. They explained they were appearing in human form so as not to 
frighten her.
  A month later, inspired telepathically, sometimes in dreams, she began 
compulsively composing music. Before that I couldn't play Chopsticks, and I 
still can't but sometimes music just flows out of me, and I write it down.  
 Other than this space music thing, Connie Cook is Ms. Middle America; a 
42-year old divorced housewife raising a sixthgrader,pretty and plump.  Her 
father was a postman. In school she banged a snare drum in the band.  After 
eight piano lessons from a teacher who rapped her knuckles for frequent 
mistakes, she quit music until her strange inspiration in 1981.
  Ms. Cook sings some of her alien songs to children in Sunday school at Unity 
Church of Peoria according to Rev Eddie Edwards, "Connie is a sincere and 
stable person who has had some kind of an experience".
  So if you want to hear some music from outter space go to O'Leary's Singles 
Bar and order a drink (a Shirley Temple of course).
  Source of material: The Wall Street Journal. Tuesday, Sept.4, 1990. Page 1.
John Winston
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From: jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:29:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bu8HDz.53C.2
Followup-To: alt.flame
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King) writes
>irfan@maxwell.ece.wisc.edu has been posting the article(s) in question
>on several other newsgroups, including one on Canadian culture!!
>Granted that Canada is a multicultural nation, but I don't think
>Irfan's evangelizing relates much to culture in Canada, nor do I think
>it is appropriate in newsgroups such as this one.  Why not move it to
>soc.culture.islam, or even talk.religion.misc? 

After 3 iterations of e-mail, I've established that
 (a) Irfan doesn't want to answer any questions about netiquette.
 (b) Irfan doesn't know the difference between a network and a newsgroup.
 (c) Irfan thinks that his postings are relevant to all cultures (and
     hence all .culture newsgroups) since they are "a call of God 
     Almighty".
 (d) Irfan hasn't read news.newusers.questions.
 (e) Irfan thinks I should be out attacking the "evil" atheists who
     are posting on the net, rather than pointing out his lack of
     netiquette.

In other words, Irfan appears to be a religiously-bigotted net-newbie
who's not going to stop until pointed by a sys-admin's helpful hand in
the direction of news.newusers.questions. 

I'm leaving the crossposting in place, since I hope that wider
knowledge will reduce the amount of flamage, and possibly prevent
other people from wasting their time trying to reason with Irfan.
Note the followup-to, however. 

Jonathan H.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:33:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear People: Sorry about that again. I posted the Ruin City information
in this article. It should have been in the Ley Line article.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: meier@Software.Mitel.COM (Rolf Meier)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: meteors curve / go straight
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:23:47 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <6482649@gloin.unh.edu> kalter@unh.edu writes:

>His point was, meteors _LOOK_ straightish.
>The thing is, they _DO_ look straightish by eyeball.
>They do, they really do _LOOK_ straight.

This is incorrect.

I have been observing meteors for over 20 years and I can positively
relate that, occasionally, a meteor will APPEAR to follow a curved
path.  It will sometimes APPEAR to take a bend of up to 30 degrees
in its path.

Whether this is a real phenomenon or simply a trick of the
eye due to its movement is another question.

_____________________________________________________________________
Rolf Meier					Mitel Corporation
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: stark@ug.cs.dal.ca (Stark)
Subject: REQ: Mineral property list
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: dal
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:13:30 GMT

 Some time ago, I had gotten a list of minerals and their new age properties
from this newsgroup, but have since lost it.  If anyone still has it or the
author is still out there, could you mail me a copy?
-- 
                                     |\^/|
                                 ._|\|   |/|_.         Eh?  ya' hoser!
       Proud to live in ------->  \ CANADA  /
                                  <_________>          stark@ug.cs.dal.ca
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.consciousness,alt.dreams,alt.drugs,alt.mindcontrol,alt.psychoactives
From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Subject: Re: chrysalis by Peter Reich
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:30:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.183455.3520@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White ) writes in part:
|> Anyway, three big safety rules:
|>     - make sure you isolate any wires stuck to your skull from actual
|>         electrical connection with the brain.  Go through an optoisolator
|> 		or something equivalent (IR remote, etc).  (Unless you're looking 
|> 		for that sort of effect).  The chance of anything going wrong is
|> 		slim, but why risk it when you have wires stuck to your head
|> 		with conductive jelly?
And if you don't know what is meant by "isolate any wires stuck to your 
skull from actual electrical connection with the brain", "optoisolator",
or "IR remote", then just DON'T HOOK YOUR HEAD TO ANYTHING electrical.

IN PARTICULAR, DON'T ATTACH ANYTHING TO YOUR HEAD THAT IS PLUGGED INTO
A WALL OUTLET, unless you know that it is safe.

The risk is minimal if the machine is properly designed and not broken,
but if you don't know that, don't assume that there is no risk.

---
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: looi@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Wan Looi)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.rights.human,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: ONENESS AND UNIQUENESS OF THE CREATOR, AND THE PURPOSE OF CREATION
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:22:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Sep7.042246.8673
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Sep5.213907.27633@midway.uchicago.edu> deb5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>	Am i reading soc.culture.korean or am i deluded?  
>Usenet is a forum for ideas and i have nothing against someone 
>discussing their religious beliefs _IF IT'S PART OF A DISCUSSION OF A TOPIC
>GERMANE TO THE NEWSGROUP_. Your topic hasn't the faintest relevance to the
>newsgroup, any more than a kimchi recipe on rec.music.industrial.
>	In short, i think others support me when i say, I DON'T WANT TO
>HEAR YOUR PROSELYTIZING.  Now behave before the Olympians, the Aesir, the
>Tuatha De Danaan, the 10,000 Gods, and a myriad of others unite to strike
>you down.
>						Yours in Abraxis,
>							D. v. Brighoff
>-- 

I echo your comments. I think the poster is just being ignorant. 
To the poster, I hope you appreciate and value the freedom of
speech in this country, and please don't abuse it. Just imagine
yourself what your muslim countries would do if some non-muslims
get caught spreading non-muslim teachings to muslims. I don't
intend to create a flame war here, but please be sensitive,
respect the difference, and learn how to live with us (non-muslims).
And, pleeeease don't denouce others' beliefs! Got it?!

-looi (a taoist)
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From: pul@milton.u.washington.edu (Arbaline)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Keywords: Ostrich people
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:57:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep7.015736.21418
Organization: University of Washington

In article <65284@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Folks: So much interest has been shown in the article about the 
>Ostrich people (by Leonard and Doug) that I decided to look up the material
>again.

I found one readily accessible source describing the two toed Ostrich
people: the Guiness Book of World Records! Now, I don't remember
exactly what category it was under - probably something like most
easily induced genetic anomaly - but it described that this huge
physical change is caused by the mutation of only one single gene. I
was reading from the 1987 edition, although it's probably mentioned in
later versions, as well.

And, just to make this article worth reading, I felt like looking up
the "World's worst tongue twister"! The worst (English language)
tongue twister is: "The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick."
Now, everyone say this three times *fast*! :)

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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 18:05:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <3tmn!h#@lynx.unm.edu> <1992Sep4.184948.12819@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
  <26rnvhb@lynx.unm.edu> <1992Sep9.170823.13966@ryn.mro4.dec.com>

Dear Learned People: It sure sounds like Tom R. is a smart fellow. I
made a small mistake in sending a lot of informationto Hari in Europe when
it should have been Marla of Rutgers, anyway I got it all straightened
out. I'll see everyone after the flight tonight.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 18:17:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <65161@cup.portal.com> <87806@netnews.upenn.edu> <65194@cup.portal.com>
  <2526@israel.nysernet.org>

Subject: The Ostrich People. Part 4
  The exlorers admired the way the natives used their forked feet. they even witnessed the birth of a two-toed baby. In the past, the few researchers who had observed the ostrich people believed that their strange feet were the result of a genetic mutation, since we had  to accept this explanation but then something amazing happened.
  It was during the night of a full moon that Dr.C.'s team was wakened by the natives, who were naked and had painted their entire bodies glowing silver.  The awestruck explorers followed the tribe into the dark jungle. After several hours, they came upon a large, shining silver dome.
  It was badly smashed and covered with vegetation. The tribe began dancing wildly around it and singing songs to their ancestors from the sky.
  The dome was like nothing of this earth. The incredible ceremony continued until the first light of dawn. Then the weary ostrich people led the explorers back to their village.
  On the way, an elder told Dr.C. that about 200 years ago, the large spinning sun had fallen from the sky, bringing the tribe's ancestors to the remote jungle area. That was all anyone remembered.  
  More will be known when the French team returns to the jungle to study the crashed UFO. This article was written by Francis Shipplett.
The Sun Magazines Editorial Offices are at 5401 N.W. Broken Sound Blvd. Boca Raton, FL. 33487.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,talk.religion.misc,sci.math
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: PRC why?
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage,talk.religion.misc
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:19:02 GMT

In article <DLB.92Sep9110231@fanny.wash.inmet.com> dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
>Given the fact that this is really a response to a rather silly
>statement, still Ken has said something that puzzles me.
>   Pi is a number, which happens to be useful in mathematical
>   calculations.  If the space is not Euclidian, pi happens not to be
>   as useful for calculating the circumference of a circle given its
>   diameter, but it is still useful for other things.
>Such as?  Remember that the prevalence of pi in expressions involving
>trancendental functions

Cross-posted to sci.math.  I hope people there can provide examples more easily
than I.
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,talk.religion.misc