HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: vixie-cron problems
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:31:10 GMT

While testing uucp I found it necessary to update the uucp crontab
often.  After an update or two, I discovered that vixie-cron was
not performing ANY crontab (there were only two, root and uucp).
The root crontab simply wrote "cron_running" in /tmp every minute.

This package is from the vixie-cron on tsx-11.  It included a binary
and I also recompiled it.  Strangely, when cron is run with full
debugging (all options + ext) it *does not* exhibit this behaviour.
However, with any debugging (not including the ext extension) it
still drops all tabs when I update the uucp crontab.

Another problem is that cron leaves zombie processes. When running top
I can see a process named <defunct> slowly increment its PID, for every
run of the simple root crontab mentioned above. When cron was running
both root and uucp tabs, the process running uucp seemed to eventually
terminate properly.

I compiled cron -DATT (this is what the makefile had).

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "Randall E. Breeden" <p00048@psilink.com>
Subject: bad gcc on tsx-11
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:36:40 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

 I tried downloading gcc-src-linux-2.2.2d.tar.Z this weekend. When I 
tried to uncompress it I would get that it was not in compressed format. 
When I viewed it, it contained a bunch of nulls in the front part.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: up to date sources of fsck
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:34:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.112949.1678@fwi.uva.nl> stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Bram) writes:
>I am looking for the sources of fsck.
>However, the file
>/pub/linux/attic/sources/sbin/fsck.c.Z
>is obsolete. (that figures, cause it's tucked away in the attic :-)
>
>When I try to compile the obsolete fsck.c I get lotsa
>errors complaining about undefined stuff.
>Where can I find a current version of fsck.c?

The most recent version that I know is available is from the
mcc-interim release.  Look for misc.tar.Z in the MCC archives (either
on ftp.mcc.ac.uk or one of the mirrors (tsx-11)).
-- 
                                    +      Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |      Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft)
Subject: Chinese XTerm
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:58:23 GMT

Hi,

At the Unix Users Group meeting of the dutch Hobby Computer Club
last Saturday I was told that if I really wanted to impres people
I should install the Chinese Xterm. So I did.

Anyone interested in a binary?

-- 
Rob W.W. Hooft,  Department of crystal and structural chemistry
Bijvoet Center for Biomolecular Research, University of Utrecht
The Netherlands ===== hooft@chem.ruu.nl (hooft@hutruu54.bitnet)
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel: I knew this would happen sooner or later.
Date: 26 Sep 1992 14:31:56 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

gt7080a@prism.gatech.EDU (Nathan Laredo) writes:

>Well it finally happened to me for the first time when I went
>and added in soundcard support to the kernel.. 

>Boot sector 512 bytes.
>Setup is 1576 bytes.
>System is 327684 bytes.
>System is too big
>make: *** [Image] Error 1

>Of course I can get rid of the scsi code and compile it, but
>I don't think everyone would have that option.

>Is it safe to just change SYS_SIZE in build.c?  I assume it will
>propigate itself to bootsect.s

>Oh well.. I'll see what happens.. just felt like pointing out
>a landmark.. at least for me...
>-- 
>|Nathan I. Laredo (this spot $9)  gt7080a@prism.gatech.edu|tb    |

You shouldn't have any problem booting that kernal image, as my /vmlinux
has been around 380k since 0.97.4 This is with all the base code, and a 
bunch of patches for things like ipc stuff and tcp/ip.

James

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lruppert@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Your worst nightmare...)
Subject: Re: 3 questions !
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:44:19 EDT

In article <1992Sep29.120028.3762@cicb.fr> lebailli@cicb.fr (Olivier Le Baillif) writes:
>
>that's ok, everything is running perfectly well, BUT when I start X the xterm is still using
>a US keyboard mapping !!!
>		Does it come from xterm, must I have to recompile it ? 
>
No need to recompile, I think you just need to use Xmodmap or something.

>colors mode. I just want to know if an X*** exits for 15 bits DAC (as the sierra) which allow
>a 'true color' mode with 32768 colors simultaneously ? If it does where can I get it ?
   ^^^^^^^^^^^ hicolor I don't think it is available yet, but if it is I'd love
   to see it
>
>
>		Finally I'd like to know if KHOROS have been tested under linux ? In this
>case where can I get the binary (cause it requires about 100 Mb of disk space to compile, and
>I just have about 80 Mb free).
>
Good question.  Has anyone tried to do KHOROS?  I'd love a copy if you have.
>
>
>Olivier Lebaillif
>Laboratoire de Radiocommunications
>Universite de Rennes 1
>France
>
>EMAIL:  lebailli@cicb.fr

Louis Ruppert
EMAIL:  lruppert@mailbox.syr.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: X11v2.0 on trident 8900c
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:34:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


I have a trident 8900c but X says that I don't. Has anybody had similar
problems? If my card is not a trident 8900c then windows must be running by
black magic for a year using the 8900c drivers.

Zeyd
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rgetter@vnet.ibm.com
Subject: video card survey
Reply-To: rgetter@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:27:26 GMT

Here are the results of my video survey.

Most ET4000 cards work with linux. The only exception seems to be
the Diamond Speedstar. Cards that are known to work:
Orchid Prodesigner II.
Tseng Labs
STB PowerGraph
2 the max VGA 4032

ATI cards work. Here is a rundown of the ATI cards.
ATI Graphics Ultra 1280x1024 8514 and SVGA. both modes are supported.
ATI Graphics Vantage 1024x768 8514 and SVGA. both modes are supported.
ATI 8514 Ultra 8514 only but it can be used with either ISA or MCA.
ATI VGA Wonder xl SVGA only, with hicolor
ATI VGA Wonder SVGA without hicolor

There is support for trident cards. They aren't ET4000. I don't know whether
other cards using the same chipset will work.

I don't know about Paradise cards. Some people use them, but I haven't heard
anything about 1024x768 or higher.

There are people working on S3 support.

This is approximately the same information that was contained in the
Anyone who wants can do whatever they want with this list. Thank you to
everyone who sent me any information.

Rob
   -- "'Like Sand in an Hourglass, so are the Days of our Lives' ...
      It still amazes me how so many people can listen to an intro like
      that and then sit in front of the tube for an hour."
                                         -- Ambush Bug
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: plek@admiral.uucp (peter eriksson)
Subject: Linux on disc
Reply-To: plek@admiral.uucp (peter eriksson)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:23:41 GMT

Hello !!!

As i only have USENET acess and not FTP, i wonder where i can get
linux on disc, and utilties that are for linux. As i is new to
the unix system(s), what is needed to run LINUX on a MSdos system.

peter ericsson, (email below)

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yan@indetech.com ()
Subject: How to make a swap file?
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:38:58 GMT


Could someone tell me how to make a swap file, rather than a swap
partition?

I can make a 12M swap partition, and use swapon on it, but it is not
flexible becase I can't change the size easily.

I wanted to make a swap file, but couldn't find the "mkfile" command,
and don't know what is equivalent.

Any help appreciated.

Xudong
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux asks, is BYTE dead?
Keywords: UNIX
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:31:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Sep29.193108.12410
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <bibhas.717685421@femto.engr.mun.ca> bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
>This months BYTE screams out asking "Is UNIX dead?". A closer scrutiny
>of the article proved it's just the otherwise. 

Either BYTE has sold out or is to brain dead to use the internet. Fortunitly
as the net grows BYTE will regret not keeping up with whats really going on
in the world.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ieeu0051@cs.montana.edu (Rob Krpoun)
Subject: Hardware Troubles...from a newbie
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:40:06 GMT

Hi.
I am a very newbie and am having some rather annoying problems.  I cannot 
seem to find a comm program that will print anything on the screen after
I connect.  Any suggestions?  I've tried minicom, pcomm, and xcomm, but none
of them worked.

Problem #2:  I have a mono VGA monitor that does a good job of pretending to
be a color monitor, except in Linux.  Linux seems to think that I have a
text mono monitor and card.  How do I convince Linux to treat it like a color
monitor?

Hardware configuration:
386-40 w/ OPTI chipset
ET 4000 video card w/ 1meg
generic Hayes compatible 2400 baud modem
IIT math co.

Thanks in advance!!

Rob Krpoun
ieeu0051@amin.ee.montana.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stefth@sci.kun.nl (Stefan ten Hoedt (Contactpersoon Harry Duys))
Subject: Re: Kernel: I knew this would happen sooner or later.
Followup-To: stefth@sci.kun.nl
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:39:59 GMT

In article <1a2drcINN4nc@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>gt7080a@prism.gatech.EDU (Nathan Laredo) writes:
>
>>Well it finally happened to me for the first time when I went
>>and added in soundcard support to the kernel.. 
>
>>Boot sector 512 bytes.
>>Setup is 1576 bytes.
>>System is 327684 bytes.
>>System is too big
>>make: *** [Image] Error 1
>
>>Of course I can get rid of the scsi code and compile it, but
>>I don't think everyone would have that option.
>
>>Is it safe to just change SYS_SIZE in build.c?  I assume it will
>>propigate itself to bootsect.s
>
>>Oh well.. I'll see what happens.. just felt like pointing out
>>a landmark.. at least for me...
>>-- 
>>|Nathan I. Laredo (this spot $9)  gt7080a@prism.gatech.edu|tb    |
>
>You shouldn't have any problem booting that kernal image, as my /vmlinux
>has been around 380k since 0.97.4 This is with all the base code, and a 
>bunch of patches for things like ipc stuff and tcp/ip.
>
>James
>

That depends on the fact if you're using LILO or so. I remember that there
was another definition in bootsec.S or so. If you want to create a boot-disk
you still have to change that number there :-)

But I'm only an unknowing hacker...
	Are there any gurus around here who can give a definite answer?


Stefan ten Hoedt
stefth@sci.kun.nl -or-
stefth@zeus.cs.kun.nl


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: public S3 design (Was: Free software and ... Diamond products)
Followup-To: alt.config
Keywords: Diamond, free-software, S3, VGA, SVGA
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:54:59 GMT

what do people think of creating a group like alt.video-cards.free
(terrible name I know) for future discussion of this idea?

or perhaps better yet, a mailing list?

folloups to alt.config.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Obsolete article, obsolete thread :-) (Re: No /usr/local please)
Followup-To: alt.flame
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:19:20 +0100
Return-Path: <u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

In article <1992Sep24.172319.2156@crd.ge.com>, davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
> In article <HEIM.92Sep23153557@luzie.peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, heim@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Gerald Heim) writes:
> | [I want to keep /usr/local]
> [I like V.4 naming convention much more]

Oh boy, can anybody explain me why this thread is here at all?  I see several
things, none of them justifying that waste of bandwidth: 

-  There are a few "distributions" for beginners.  Their maintainers can
   decide about the structure, if discussion is needed then I am pretty sure
   that joining a channel on the mailing list is better.
   
-  Software should be easy to install.  Ok, either it is modern software
   then it is easy, no matter what directories you use, or it is something
   old, in which case you have to work a little anyway.
   
-  Intolerance of other philosophies about how a system should look like.
   Change your system (you are root and have sources for everything) and
   convince your friends *by e-mail or talk from face to face*.  If you think
   that your articles will convince the world, then become a politician.

I usually don't get binaries (GCC is an exception, it is just too big
for me to compile it on my own), but I guess that it is only the
compiler driver which may need to be compiled to change e.g. the
library path, so I will look into it next time.

My directory structure is different from the usual one, it doesn't give
me problems and I am satisfied with it.  And no, I will not post it to
avoid flames.

Perhaps it is a good idea for people who maintain "beginners
distributions", to document the used file system structure.  New users
can get all descriptions and then use the one which they like most.

Linux is a real UN*X.  A friend of mine and me got our systems working by
getting a kernel image, a small root fs to boot the system for the first
time and then getting all needed sources via ftp, either from our local
GNU mirror or from the various servers.  No "distribution", no problems.

Michael

PS: Mensch Hinz, sowas von Dir ... *seufz*
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: 0.98: xterm as Console? (non root)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:07:31 GMT

>>>>> On 5 Oct 92 15:15:42 GMT, zie@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
>>>>> (Thomas Ziegler) said:

Thomas> I was upgrading from 0.97pl1 to 0.98 in the last days.  Before
Thomas> I was able to use one xterm to see the ConsoleOutput (xterm -C
Thomas> ...)  also as non root user. Now whith the 0.98-kernel this is
Thomas> only possible with root priviligies.  I tried /dev/console c 4
Thomas> 1 and /dev/console c 4 0, but no diifference.  I'm using the
Thomas> "old" x11v1.1

XTerm makes a check to see if /dev/console is owned by the uid of the
XTerm process.  It only allows -C if this is true.  To get -C to work
under Linux you must "chown user /dev/console" before you run X.
--
Rick Sladkey
jrs@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cmb@bluemoon.rn.com (Chris Bugosh)
Subject: Upgrading
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 16:20:36 EDT

Is there a process, other than re-compiling to upgrade from version to
version?  I'm runing .96 right now, and would like to upgrade to .97,
but heard there are problems with "ps" and other commands when you do
this...  Anyone have any enlightening facts?  Also, if there isn't a 
way, what's the general procedure for recompiling...  Thanks.

Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Keywords: Advertising
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:21:05 GMT

In article <3727@eastman.UUCP> talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:
>
>You could always send Jerry Pournelle a copy of the SLS package.  I bet you'd
>get your 15 page article! :)
>

I bet he will whine on the magazine: "U U U, I couldn't install the beast
in my machine." for over 15 pages ;-) This guy doesn't even know how
to install OS/2.



Wen-Chun Ni
From: donbon@gw.neuronet.pitt.edu (Don Bonaddio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: XFree86-How to patch kernel from 2 -> 4 (mcc-interim)
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:21:40 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: ccn


I have the mcc-interim 0.97pl2 installed with v1.1 of X installed
and working.

Would like to update to XFree861.1. README says I need 0.97pl4 and 4.1
gcc jump libraries.

How do I update the mcc-interim 0.97pl2 to 0.97pl4 and install jump lib's ?

thanks,
db

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: maniac@lil-ed.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: More Questions from a Beginner.
Reply-To: maniac@lil-ed.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 18:24:28 GMT

I've got a few questions concerning Linux, as I'm considering getting
a new machine to play around with it.

First, is Linux 386-pure, or does it drop to V86 mode for I/O (for
bios calls?)

Second, is the long-filename support out yet?  I found some documentation
saying that it was expected out with the 0.97 boot image, that it
isn't out with the 0.97pl1, it's expected out with the 0.98 boot image,
and nothing indicating it is out in the 0.98 boot image that I just found,
(haven't had the chance to try it yet).

Booting is still a mystery, since I'm still using the disk-based boot and
root images.   Is it possible to set up a HD so that you can boot into linux
off of the hard disk?  Is it possible to set up a dual-boot HD?

Finally, a few Free386X questions.  What video cards does the current 
FreeX support beyond 800x600?  I get the impression that just about
everything is supported at 640x480, but the only other references I've 
found concern the ET4000 chipset.  And why doesn't the SpeedStar24 work
with Free386X?  I'd like to know, since I'll be getting a new VGA card
soon, and intend on avoiding such problems.

-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@cs.unlv.edu
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:39:05 GMT

In article <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> ketil@ii.uib.no writes:
>
>BUT: Perhaps we could start letter campaigns to get more coverage for
>free software?  Mail a letter to Byte or whatever, ask for reviews etc
>of Gnu stuff, and other free software.  Perhaps it would be possible
>to get hardware manufacturers on our side?  Now that Dell issues their
>own Unix, how about getting Gateway or someone to give out a
>'commercial' (that is stable and polished) version of Linux, or
>something?
>


I don't know. But I have seen such kind of remarks in comp.os.os2.* groups.
I thought comp.os.linux is the best place for friendly people to talk
about what they get in playing/working with Linux. Such kind of peace 
seems to be broken from my viewpoint.

The outside commercial world is really ugly, and whining about it doesn't
help. I am very pessimistic in the magazine coverage of Linux and I 
wouldn't do that myself.

With Linux in my 386, I feel satisfied and comfortable (even with the
weekly patch ;-)). I only use my mouth to talk people into our beloved
world without touching any "promotional" terms. I can do the works like
copying for my friends, but I don't expect the commercial world or the
universities to accept Linux, though it is much better than many
commercial Unixes. You can't push Linux to the mainstream world without
money.  I'd rather stay in such kind of underground subculture in
the seemingly uglier computer society.




Wen-Chun Ni
From: s891961@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Peter David Cupit)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can we please nuke these discussions?
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:51:20 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:



>Better yet, could people take the following discussions off
>comp.os.linux?  They don't belong here:


>	* Discussions about how to desing the perfect video card

  The video card design posts are often related to a proposed project 
  to produce a special Linux video card.   In other words these are
  relevant postings and are not more suitable for other news groups.



>If someone posts an article on any one of these topics, I urge you *not*
>to reply on comp.os.linux.  Instead, send that person a sharp rebuke
>about how he shoulded have posted his off-topic article on
>comp.os.linux.  Only then, if you feel kindly at the moment, answer


I agree about the rest of the stuff.

Peter Cupit.


  s891961@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
  s891961@godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: colin@star.ic.ac.uk (A. C. Cox)
Subject: Help with Xview 
Organization: Imperial College, London University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:01:23 GMT
X-Posted-From: op.ph.ic.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


I would be grateful to anyone who could give me advice on what I need to port
programs developed on a Sun using the Xview libaries. I have only recently started
using linux on my own pc and do not know what is available.

Thanks in advance

Colin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux