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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:23:51 PST
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From:         Richard Warner <rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Windows for Workplace
              Nov 12, 92 10:21 am

>
> Richard,
>         I stand (ok, cower and cringe) to be corrected. Corvus may have been
> in there before IBM PCnet, but the latter is the first I've known to make
> a dent in the market, emphasis on the "I've" part. So, with this said, let's
> modify my statement to read "early" rather than "first." My first network
> adapter was a tall rack of gear (an IMP) attaching an original Centronix dot
> matrix printer and keyboard to the ARPAnet, about 20 years ago. In those days
> ARPAnet was small and friendly, much like a lan, but vastly slower and a lot
> more costly. About 5 years later I moved up to the big time, VAX and DECnet
> Phase I, helping to start one of the larger such nets, using very high speed
> 2400 baud point to point links. What a marvel it was! One could log into a
> remote machine (I had to write some of that software) and access remote files,
> do Mail, etc. My perception of lans began much later when they moved from
> the primative fancy-device-driver stage into useful tools. Today all my big
> iron is gone, replaced by hords of small boxes, all interconnected by
> Ethernet with NetWare and DECnet and TCP/IP and OSI and whatnot. So, I may
> have missed a beat or two in the lan adapter history.
>         Thanks,
>         Joe D.

Joe -
  No reason to 'cower and cringe'!  I think everyone here knows that your
  experience in networking and LAN's is quite deep.  It is the depth of
  that experience that adds so much to this list.  So what if you missed
  a minor blip on the screen on LAN history.  The early 1 Mbps LAN's
  were functional, but not very important.  I had to admin a Corvus
  OmniNet for a while.  It had a 20 Mb hard drive, and used a video
  tape backup system that took 13-14 hours to back up the full 20 Mb
  drive.  Easy to see, in retrospect, why such LAN's never had much
  market penetrance.

  - rick -




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From: HAROLD@RADIO.WKAR.MSU.EDU (Harold Beer)
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Subject: Novell on Gopher
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:51:57 GMT
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I don't know if I've heard about this before or maybe I'm the first
to find it; But you might want to check out gopher.novell.com

In my brief look around I found:

Novell stock prices
Keyword search of NOVLIB forums
ftp.novell.com directories (but who wants to read a PKZIP'd file?)

I'd give it 1 and one half stars, on a scale of 4.  I think they mean
well, and it's worth looking at.

Here's a blurb that I took down:




         ABOUT THE EXPERIMENTAL NOVELL GOPHER SERVER
             AT GOPHER.NOVELL.COM
             (NS.NOVELL.COM) [137.65.4.1]


This gopher server is offered on an experimental and temporary basis.
It is totally unsupported--I wish you the best of luck....

Among other things, it serves up a full-text index of the portions of
the CompuServe NetWire forum that Novell is able to publish to the
Internet through its FTP servers.

To answer an oft-asked question, no, it is not running on a NetWare
server.  The gopher server is currently the UNIX 1.03 version.

Address configuration problems to Bryan_Cardoza@Novell.COM.

---------

Hope you find this of use.

Harold



Harold Beer --- WKAR Radio -- Michigan State University --
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From: wdriley@SMTPLINK.COH.ORG (WILLIAM RILEY)
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Subject: OS/2 Net requester
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:28:04 GMT
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A question for OS/2 Users

        I am testing OS/2 for possible application in a number of systems on
campus. While I find some of the functions of OS/2 interesting, I have been
unable to get the latest version of their Net requester to function.
        The computer I'm testing is a Compaq 486/25 with 12 MB RAM, IBM Token
Ring II NIC, attaching to Novell 3.11. I might add than the DOS configuration is
working well, it's just the OS/2 net requester that doesn't work.
        During OS/2 boot, the drivers seem to load okay, but shortly after the
bit map appears I get a message number NWD0115 error. A short time later I
receive a SYS0059 error.
        If I open the Novell folder on the desktop, no network drives or file
servers are visable. If I attempt to "attach", I get another error.
        My OS/2 config file matches the version suggested in my limited
documentation, but I am at a loss.
        Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:56:02 MET
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From:         kirchner@INFORMATIK.UNI-KL.DE
Subject:      New on ftp.uni-kl.de

Hello,

we now have also on ftp.uni-kl.de ( 131.246.9.95 )
in pub/pc/novell

smcdsk44.exe       the latest and MUCH greater WD/SMC-Superdisk
                   ( wd44supr.exe from novftp...nl )

lanloc11.zip       a shareware software security system

enjoy

R. Kirchner
Univ. Kaiserslautern, Germany
kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de
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From:         Peter Stahl <Stahl@VAX.RZ.UNI-WUERZBURG.DBP.DE>
Subject:      Crashing - Vol full

In principle it is a good thing that Novell keeps deleted files and that
you can SALVAGE them. It is, however, very space consuming. My server
crashed regularly with different error messages until I included
SET IMMEDIAT PURGE OF FILES=ON into the Novell Autoexec-file. Ever since
the server is running smoothly. Now files that are deleted are what they
should be: gone.

Maybe this idea helps those whose servers are crashing because of missing
space on the volumes.

Peter Stahl
University of Wuerzburg, Germany
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From:         "Curtis Jay, NMU Microcomputer Maint.,
              Ext. 2461" <STCJ@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Planning for a fiber backbone

     To Novell List,

     Our University is in the preliminary planning stages for
     running a fiber backbone to tie together buildings on campus.
     At present, we have several small LANs on campus, mostly in
     students labs.  There is a need for more widespread access to
     these labs and the software on their fileservers.  We have
     campus wide E-mail through the mainframe access to which is
     presently done thru ADU's (Asynchronus Data Units), modems and
     some attachmate connections.
     I'm sure that some of the people on the list have already run
     fiber and have connected servers in different buildings etc.
     I would like to be able to talk with some of you about your
     experiences with fiber, topologies and protocols, etc.  I'm
     looking for a few people who would be willing to answer some
     questions over the phone regarding all this. Thanks in
     advance.

     Curtis Jay  (STCJ@NMUMUS)
     Microcomputer Maintenance
     Northern Michigan University
     (906) 227-2461, FAX (906) 227-1893
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From:         "Howard A. Rollins, Jr." <HOWARD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help! how to capture com port to a castell print queue

Rick,

I may be wrong but I think that you may be mixing up the Castelle
port to which the printer is attached and the port on any pc on the
network to which you wish to print.  These two things are totally
independent.

Castelle provides a serial port to which you may attach any printer
that talks via a serial port.  The Castelle must be set up and a
novell print queue established that sends print to this particular
device.

On any pc, you can capture to any lpt: lpt1, lpt2 or lpt3.  The
output from your application will be routed through the appropriate
lpt port on your local pc, sent to the queue on the server, and then
shipped out to Castelle for printing through the serial port on
Castelle.

Again, if I am answering the wrong question, forgive me.













Howard Rollins                      Phone: 404-727-7437
Department of Psychology            Email: howard@fs1.psy.emory.edu
Emory University                           or
Atlanta, Ga 30322                          psyhar@unix.cc.emory.edu
                                           or
                                           psyhara@emuvm1.bitnet
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: map command from user login script

DATE SENT:  13-NOV-1992 09:02:01
>
>Dear Novellers -
>        Is there any reason why a MAP command would not execute at all
>        from within a *USER* login script?
>
>        Thanks in advance for any info you might pass on.
>
>        Mitch Edelman
>        mjedelma@ssa.gov

Is user login script being executed at all?  A write command
is helpful in debugging.

If the user login script is not being executed, make sure the user has
rights to his \mail\%objectid% directory.  Also check for "EXIT" commands
in the system login script.

does the equivalent map command work when executed from dos? does the user
have rights where the target of the map is?

you may also want to check which version of login is being executed.  Dont
forget to check the copy of login.exe in \login as well as the one in \public.

hth,
r.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:47:00 EST
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From:         deljones@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      RE: Portable Netware

>Our organization is moving to a client-server architecture using
>Oracle DBMS on Sun Sparc 10s.  There will be numerous sites within
>the USA and Canada connected by T1s on a WAN.


>We were thinking of using Netware Portable running on the Sun
>Sparcstations to support the organization application needs.  Does
>anyone have experience with Portable Netware to enlighten me on the
>advantages of Portable Netware over a dedicated PC Server or its
>disadvantage.  The only thing that I could think of is it
>simplifies the routing of packets (only TCP/IP).


We have Portable Netware running on two large UNIX boxes.  It is
great for some things, but it does have limitations.  It will not
run NLMs.  Consequently, some of the primary advantages of third
party software can not be employed.

However, it is great in a mixed Portable Netware and "Native
Netware environment.  The primary advantage, is that it allows you
to easily mount all (or part) of your UNIX platform storage, using
NFS, as netware storage.   This has some great advantages in
unifying the two environments.

In addition, the "NVT" (Netware Virtual Terminal) function provides
a higher speed than normal link for terminal emulation.  LAN
Workplace is supposed to be incorporating a direct link shim in ODI
which will eliminate the Int. 14 requirement now the normal access
route, which should further enhance performance.

The native netware NFS NLM is one way allowing UNIX to mount
Novell, but not allowing Novell to mount UNIX, so portable
netware's two way ability really provides a substantial benefit.

Another option to consider is the UNovell?? (not sure on the
spelling) product due for near term release.  Again, I would not
expect it to perform as well as a native netware server.

We have had good performance on portable netware, but we are using
4 or more RISC processor platforms.  So I do not know the
performance derived from either PC based or SUN Workstation based
Portable Netware platforms.  I would expect substantially reduced
performance.

A primary advantage of native netware is its ability to use
"inexpensive Components" and its ability to support most high
volume vendor products.  By building a strategy of Portable
Netware as the primary server architecture, you loose most of this
capability.  Component cards, disk drives and computer boxes are
dramatically less expensive in the DOS market, so why not take
advantage of the pricing and use a mixed architecture?  That way you
have the best of both worlds.

-Del
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Reply-To:     cshaffer@sbu.edu
From:         CSHAFFER@SBU.EDU
Subject:      Network between buildings

We have a problem.  We would like to extend our ethernet network to a
building 300' from an existing concentrator.   We will have 3 nodes
at the most in the new site.   The cost of fiber and a concentrator
is not justified.   We do not want to run copper underground.
(Finally got rid of our surge problems)

Does anyone have infromation on using laser technology between
buildings?   Or any other suggestions?


Thanks




Chuck Shaffer                        Cshaffer@sbu.edu
Director, Computer Services          716-375-2026
St. Bonaventure University
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From:         David Lewis <kelson@AIS.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Question: how to share a plotter?
              COMPUQUIM" at Nov 6, 92 02:08:00 pm

>         We would also like to share a plotter...
>
>         Questions:  1) What runs better; core printing or remote printing?
>
>                     2) If I use core printing would the workstations "see"
>                        the plotter connected to the serial port in the
>                        file server?
>
>                     3) Is there any other solution to share a plotter?
>
  Well what package are you gonna be using that will be requiring plotting?
we use autocad here, and pretty much, you HAVE to plot to a file, and send
it to the plotter.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:58:38 EST
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From:         DRURY@RSBS0.ANU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Jukebox Driveunits

Hi
        Does anyone out there have experience with Jukebox units for
Mag/Optical disks. If so I would appreciate it if you could contact me
at the below address.  If enough interest is generated I will post the
information.

TIA

Philip Drury
INTERNET::drury@rsbs0.anu.edu.au
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From:         Rich Molettiere <richm@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>
Subject:      AppleShare listserv?

Does anyone know of an AppleShare listserv serving a similar function
as novell?

I support both systems.  If an AppleShare listserv was only half as
good as this one, it would be worth my time.

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From: JRD@USU.BITNET (Joe Doupnik)
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Subject: Re: IPX programming
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:08:44 GMT
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>Hello I get this from KUL in Belgium.
>--------------------------------------
>aix370p | 200 -> ftp netlab2.usu.edu
>netlab2.usu.edu: unknown host
>ftp>
>--------------------------------------
>Ok so only one thing is possible now ... can you please give me the number of
>the site.  (Ex: 123.452.12.123)
>I'm very interrested in NOVELL IPX programming and examples ... so.
>Thankx anyway.
>Lode
--------------
        Netlab2.usu.edu is IP number 129.123.1.44. Someone needs to adjust
their domain name server for your area.
        Joe D.
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From: bpc@unb.ca (Brian Cassidy)
Subject: Re: ODI remote booting with SMC cards
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:03:02 GMT

In article <16897833F.074KUBEN@Witsvma.wits.ac.za> 074KUBEN@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
>From: 074KUBEN@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
>Subject: ODI remote booting with SMC cards
>Date: 6 Nov 92 19:52:09 GMT
>I am trying to remote boot using ODI into a novell file server using SMC
>network cards and boot proms.
>I have applied rplfix to the Net$dos.sys file as I am using MS-DOS v5.00.
>Nevertheless I have met with no success.
>The network cards are SMC EtherCard PLUS 16 (and 8) bit.
>The Boot proms are SMC Netware Boot Proms (ROM-NOV F001) v1.5.
>The boot prom instructions call for Etherrpl to be loaded on the file server
>and bound to the lan card (again a SMC 16 bit). The binding of etherrpl fails
>with a 0701 error "Error binding rpl stack to MLID"
>The workstations fail to read it's boot image off the file server, and either
>boots of the hard disk if there is one present or displays:
> "SMC Lan Manager Remote boot rom v1.5
>  Adapter Initialised Successfully
>  Searching for DLC RPL Server"
> 
>Could anyone help ?
The above info is inconsistent. The messages above are displayed with
SMC rom ROM RPL and not ROM-NOV F001. So on the box it may say ROM-NOV
but that is not what you have. The question is: Which do you want?
I have both and use ODI drivers with both. ROM-NOV is the traditional
Netware boot rom using 802.3 frames. The current version is 4.0.
It is the more common of the two. The other (ROM-RPL) uses frame type
802.2 and requires a server nlm. The current version for this rom is 1.5.
The instructions do say that etherrpl.nlm is required but that is
obsolete. You need an nlm called rpl.nlm. This is available from
Novell technical support. There are other files required which are
on the latest SMC superdisk. But rather than go through all this
you may decide that SMC shipped you the wrong type of rom.
Mail me direct for more info if you wish.

Brian Cassidy <BPC@UNB.CA>
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From:         Maria Lacina <lacina@WU-WIEN.AC.AT>
Subject:      ODI-drivers

Thanks to everyone who sent me informations about ODI-drivers.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:21:00 CST
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Login.exe with password as a parameter.

DATE SENT:  13-NOV-1992 10:14:31
>
>    Does anybody have/know a login.exe version wich you can enter
>the password in the command line?
>    ex: login myname mypassword
>    Or, is there a way for a process to login into a server without
>human intervention?
>
>    Thanks in advance.
>
>Ramon Ros i Gorne.
>Universitat de Barcelona.

You can use the existing login.exe by either using a keyboard buffer stuffer,
or use dos redirection.  I prefer using the keyboard buffer stuffer
(  like key-fake or stackey ) since the interaction between dos redirection
and the novell shell leaves a file handle or 2 trapped, open and inuse until
you logout.

   examples:

       preferred:

            Key-Fake "password" \013
            login username

       also works:  leaves one file handle trapped

            echo password > c:\temp.pwd
            login username < c:\temp.pwd
            del c:\temp.pwd

       also works:  leaves two file handles trapped

            echo password | login username


hth,
r.

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| St. Louis  MO  63104                                                       |
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