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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Panasonic AG-1960 pros/cons wanted
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:51:36 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <01Pf02nW1boj01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> asl00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Andrew Lee) writes:
<In article <22461@oasys.dt.navy.mil> goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg) writes:
<>In rec.video, scweddel@nyx.cs.du.edu (scott weddel) writes:
<>>What are the Panasonic AG-1960's pros and cons?
<>
<> [Pro's deleted]
<>
<>Drawbacks:  no framing servo like the pro machines, so some edits tend
<
<Is this what causes the flagging errors I get from time to time on my
<1960?  What can I do to prevent or limit them?  It still happens when
<I hook up a TBC also.

Yep, that would do it.  Using a TBC isn't going to fix it.  The VCR needs
to lock on the frame.

The weird thing is that my consumer JVC HR-S8000U locks onto the frame
when it edits.  There is no even-even or odd-odd edits on this deck.  It
is so simple to do frame servo in today's servo ICs.
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From: merlyn@romulus.reed.edu (Randal L. Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Camera World: A Good Experience
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:35:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.MERLYN.92Jul29073509
Organization: Reed College

In article <jsnow.712260884@moons> jsnow@moons.sim.es.com (John Snow) writes:

   >I have had very good experiences with Camera World of Oregon.  They have
   >the best prices and are authorized US dealers.  I bought a Sony MDP-333
   >there for only $389 including shipping and handling and full US warranty.
   > I highly recommend calling them first for the best prices.

   I also have recently had a good experience with CWO. On the
   recommendation of several members of this new group. I bought a Sony
   TR-81 last week from CWO. Paid 909.95 + 20 shipping. Ordered it on
   Wednesday, came on Friday!

I, too, have had nothing but good experiences with Camera World of
Oregon. I don't know how they do on mailorder, though... I just walk
in through the front door. :-)

They claim to be the nation's largest Canon camcorder dealer, and the
nation's second largest Sony camcorder dealer.  (I wonder who is
first?)  And at their volume, the prices would be hard to beat.  And
surprisingly good knowledgeable sales people too.

No, I don't have the 800 number.  It's a local call for me. :-)

Just another video producer,

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Surround 'Bleed'?
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:24:36 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul23.211417.3349@amgen.com> chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester) writes:
<Hi All.
<
<Last night while watching Star Trek The Next Generation (Broadcast in Stereo)
<and using my Pro-Logic Surround system to maximize my viewing pleasure, I began
<to notice that some of the voices in the center channel were popping in and out
<of the rear surround channel.  Has anyone ever experienced this?

You haven't been reading this group very long, have you?  :-)

This problem is ancient history.

Call your local station's chief engineer and complain about a piece of
equipment that they are using that detects out-of-phase audio.  This unit is
being fooled by the surround info in ST:TNG and changes the phase of one of the
audio channels, placing the center channel in the rear and the rear in the
center.

Tell him/her that this piece of equipment of destroying your viewing pleasure
by having the audio constantly flipping front/rear.

Maybe, just maybe it'll get turned off for good.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: B/W movies have B/W through:  Why?
Keywords: B/W videos
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:55:09 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul22.180230.26406@cs.mun.ca> craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Betsy Brett) writes:
<
<	I watched "Shadow of a Doubt," a black and white film on videotape
<yesterday.  As usual, the video brand logo and other introducing items
<were in black and white.  But at the end was a preview for other Hitchcock
<films out on video.  The preview was in black and white, but having seen these
<movies, I know they were filmed in colour.  Is there a particular reason
<why everything is in black and white on a video if the movie is?  Is it the
<way they record it or is it for the VCR's benefit in some way?  I am just
<curious about this.

More than likely the color burst was turned off for duplicating the B&W movie.
It is left off for the whole duplication process to avoid color flashing when
it is turned on or off for the few moments of color.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.satellite,rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:14:45 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


[What the Hell is comp.compression?]

In article <MONTA.92Jul26181344@image.mit.edu> monta@image.mit.edu (Peter Monta) writes:
<
<There's no question about it:  there are block artifacts in the
<regions where a fast-moving object occludes or reveals the background.
<For example, NBC showed the compulsory floor exercise of Maria
<Neculita (Romania) at around 5:30pm EDT.  Look at the first tumbling
<run, in which Neculita's legs flash past the audience.
<
<Where in the chain from Barcelona does this occur?  Is satellite
<bandwidth so scarce that NBC must resort to compressed NTSC?  How
<might NBC be convinced to stop doing this, or at least use a better
<coder?  Finally, if you have a tape of the afternoon coverage, take
<a look and try to confirm that I'm not off my rocker.  For comparison,
<NBC comes to me through WBZ, channel 4 in Boston, through the MIT cable
<television system.

You are forgetting something very important.  All of the video images are shot
using PAL equipment.

You are seeing the problem with the newer motion-artifact PAL -> NTSC standards
converter.  These are the same standards converters that were used during the
winter Olympics.  I noticed problems back then.

What is really strange is that during one portion of the gymnastics, I stepped
through a portion whereby the white vertical bar was scanned from left to
right (to change images).  The vertical white bar broke up alot.  The standards
converter had a real tough time with it.

But, I went back over the taped section of the diving and the vertical white
line had no problems.

End the end, you get to blame it on the latest technology.
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From: pblack@brahma.trl.OZ.AU (Peter Black)
Subject: VISCA information
Keywords: VISCA
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:28:49 GMT

I have just received my purchase of a Sony VBox.  This unit allows
computer interface to VCR's (and other equipment) via the Control L and
Control S interfaces.  The computer control is via RS232.

My problem is that the coding is via VISCA, yet the manual has no
specifications on the VISCA protocol (it just says to use software
applications already written that uses VISCA).  Given the appropriate
protocols and codes, I should be able to code the interface myself.

If anyone out there can help me (either send me the VISCA specs or point
me in the right direction, say to a book) I would appreciate it.  


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From: hbechtel@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H. E. Bechtel)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: $2000 Hi-8 camcorder wanted
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:50:55 GMT
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: hbechtel@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu

About 7 months ago I posted an article asking about what hi-8 camcorders
were available with certain features around the price of $2000.00.

I would like to ask again about this so I can see what has happened in
the last 6 months with prices and quality of the products.

Features needed are:

single frame editing
audio dub
video dub
time code

I also need to know approx. price and where I should order it from.  What
is the best place to order it?

Hans

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gardner@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Gardner)
Subject: Re: * What kind of VCR will do single frame recording?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:12:58 GMT

brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

>In article <1992Jul20.141045.1917@njitgw.njit.edu> meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
><Howdy,
><	I'm looking for a VCR (preferably S-VHS for now) which will do
><single frame recording. Perhaps in the format of:
><	Record a frame
><	Preroll 7 seconds
><	Play/record a frame
><	....etc.
><
><Any suggestions? I'm not looking to spend $10,000 (AAAAhHHHH!)..more
><like the $1000-$2000 price range. Thanx.

>You gotta be kidding, right?  No machine with that kind of capability is
>going to be that cheap.  Your first price was closer.  Maybe a little high,
>but better than $2k.  I only know of pro-decks with that ability, and then
>if you are looking for a particular frame, then you need SMPTE time code,
>which adds about $1k to the price (if not included are part of the deck).

NO we aren't kidding.  All a machine needs is VITC capability and a little
more internal control software.  If it remembered the "number" of the last
frame record, it could back up for preroll and record 1-n frames at the
next position.  Certainly with consumer grade transport such a system would
wear out from heavy use, but there are a LOT of us with the need to do
a few hundred or even a few thousand frames per year.  Once this first
deck wears out, I can afford to go buy a REAL transport, with SMPTE etc.
This is much more a marketing decision than a capability decision, with
the end result keeping a lot of people from bootstrapping themselves into
animation markets.
mgg
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ALLAM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Seyed Allameh)
Subject: CCD chip
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:17:59 GMT

Some time ago, one of the netters was asking for a pointer to CCD chips. Well,
here goes one:

Full-Frame Image Sensor
	The KAF-0400 from Kodak was introduced in the Lasers & Optronics mag-
zine (Vol.11, No.7 July 1992). It is a new high-perfomace full frame CCD. Its
ultralow dark current (<10pa/cm^2 at 25 deg.C) makes it ideal for a variety of
applications. Device resolution is 512X768 with a square pixels measuring 9X9
micrometer. The address of the company is:

Eastman Kodak Co., Microelectronics Technology Div., Rochester, NY 14650-2020.



Disclaimer: I have no connection with the above manufacturer.

Seyed
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Laser disk Players and some questions
Keywords: LD  Player
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:27:19 GMT

Service Merchandise has a pioneer C?D-?90 which can play 5 
CD's in any order (arranged in a circular pattern on the tray
below the 12" LD) for $488.  It's a very nice unit -- complete
with a full function remote control.  I've borrowed one from
a friend and am considering purchasing a like unit -- however
I want to see what the new model year brings (due out in late
Aug)..

This unit has no mention of S-video -- 


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Re: Does "video stablizer" work?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:44:27 GMT

peterwu@microsoft.com (Peter Wu) writes:

>Many mail order places advertise a $50 box to remove copy protection from
>video tapes (the kind that goes dark and bright and dark ...).

>Does anyone know what's in the box and how well it works?
>If it's just a zener diode or something equally simple, I'd rather not
>pay $50 for it.

The terminator II has a board full of components inside it... Now if they
are all required and actually do something I don't know?  It works well
though.  

Sometimes the light (indicating Macrovision detected) comes on while watching
Cinemax!  (I leave it is circuit the whole time)


Regards,	
Mike palmer    				Telephone: (305) 797-2326 (W)
email: mpalmer@encore.com               	   (305) 746-3146 (H)
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Panasonic AG-1960 pros/cons wanted
Date: 24 Jul 1992 23:01:49 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
Reply-To: bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: oobleck
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
: 
: In article <1992Jul19.011734.7102@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> scweddel@nyx.cs.du.edu (scott weddel) writes:
: >
: >What are the Panasonic AG-1960's pros and cons?
: 
: If low cost basic cuts-only editing is your goal, the AG-1960
		    ^^^^^^^^^
: combined with a decent editing controller (like one of the FutureVideo
: units) is a great way to go (I have such a setup myself).

Just a minor nit here - the deck doesn't determine whether you're going to
do cuts-only editing, it's the outboard video switcher (if you use one).

mike

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From: witham@janus.trl.oz (Ric Witham)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Information required on decoders
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:59:00 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories



Greetings. 

	I am trying to find out some information about how satellite and
cable really works in the home.  I presume that there are people out there
who have satellite and cable and antenna all coming in and bringing
all sorts of wonderful (?) entertainment.
	The question I have is how do you distribute this stuff around
the home.  Do you have separate receivers and decoders at each TV set or
is it possible to buy receivers/decoders which can then remodulate the
signal back onto internal cabling so that multiple TV sets can hang off
one receiver/decoder?
	If these questions cause any sort of humour to you forgive me.
 We downunder only have access (at the moment) to off air TV channels.

	It would also be of interest to get an idea of the price of receivers
and decoders.  
for example:
	VideocipherII
	VideocipherII+
	Eurocrypt
	Videocrypt
	DMAC
	D2MAC
	Plain vanilla (ie no decoder just a receiver)
	DirecTv (if one exists yet)

my email address is :  r.witham@trl.oz.au

Please respond to me directly and not via the newsgroup.

In order to avoid overwhelming me with responses I would appreciate it if
only people directly involved in the industry could respond.

thanks in advance            

Ric Witham                 

Principle Technical Officer
Optical Networks Section                     	770 Blackburn Rd
Telecom Research Laboratories               	Clayton, Victoria, 3168
email : r.witham@trl.oz.au	               	Australia
From: ccheng@mips.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Summary: mail order and the Sony 696HF
Date: 30 Jul 1992 19:57:08 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
Reply-To: ccheng@mips.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.mips.com

In article <PBG.92Jul30112531@bob.cs.brown.edu>, pbg@cs.brown.edu (Peter Galvin) writes:
|> Thanks for the feedback on whether Abe's of Maine was any good.  I
|> received a couple of cautionary tales.
|> 
|> 1) Be sure to check if it's gray market, and if it is they'll charge
|> you more for US warrantee
|> 2) Demand unopened boxes.  Someone received one that had been opened. 
|> 

I have a question about US warrantee. Is it mean that you can take your VCR to ANY dealer nearby
your city to fix it? 

How about after the warrantee has expired? Will they still do the repair but charge it more? Or
will they just not repair it and you have to do it by yourself?

Thanks in advance.

Leslie.

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.satellite,rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Compression artifacts in NBC Olympic coverage
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:53:44 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul27.002707.18729@news.acns.nwu.edu> gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gerald Fountain) writes:
<
<Hmmm, I was thinking that it seemed like they were speeding up the feed
<slightly.  I was watching the diving and swimming competitions and noticed
<what seemed like fast forward shots.  Is it possible they are doing a 10%
<speedup or so to also reduce broadcast time?  This would either save them
<bandwidth or allow them to make more 'complete' coverage.

I think you are seeing things.  Speeding up video results in some weird motion
artifacts that I haven't seen.
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Version/Columbia House
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:20:15 GMT

In article <1830003@hpgrla.gr.hp.com>, bobl@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Bob Luffel) writes...

} The latest Columbia House brochure now lists a letterbox edition of 
} Apocalypse Now.  In the past, it was not listed as letterboxed.  Does
} anyone know if this is the 'better' version I have seen mentioned in
} previous discussions?

It would have to be. The only letterboxed edition that exists is the
one made from the remastered transfer.

} From what I remember, the letterboxed version is superior to the
} non-letterboxed edition in terms of quality (audio and video).

Only until recently. Paramount has released -- or is about to release --
a pan-&-scan version of the remastered edition.

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	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: HDTV Questions (second, broadcasters)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:05:27 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>Try the new digital systems.

WHERE?

>soon after the standard is established.  Later, FOX stations in Chicago,
>Houston, Dallas, and Salt Lake City will be broadcasting as well.
>This is a commitment from Andrew G. Setos, Fox Inc. senior vice president.

The Fox station in Dallas still doesn't even broadcast *stereo*, and I'm
supposed to believe that they'll jump on HDTV?

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From: dave@appi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele)
Subject: Subtitled Samurai?
Organization: Institute of Industrial Science, University of tokyo.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:58:10 GMT

I am in search of [videotape/laserdisc]s of Japanese Samurai movies with
English subtitles.  Does anybody know of a distribution company that deals
in this commodity?

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University of Tokyo.				dave@windsor.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp
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From: gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green)
Subject: Re: Yamaha DSP-E200
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:57:40 GMT

>In article <2A6B0BF1.11753@noiro.acs.uci.edu> harvey@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Harvey Chen) writes:
>
>	I was wondering if the DSP-E200 Pro-logic processor decodes in the
>digital domain or not.  Also how does this model differ from the Yamaha
>DSP-E300?  What is Enhanced Pro-logic anyway?  It seems like only Yamaha
>processors has this.  Thanks!

OK - heres what Yamaha say about Enhanced Pro-logic.

"Adding (to) the features of the 'Normal' Dolby Pro Logic, the DSP
technology simulates the multi-surround speaker systems of the 35mm
film theater, so widening the surrounded-by-sound field with more
presence.

Preset Parameter
DELAY 20 ms
ROOM SIZE 1.0
LIVENESS 5"

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From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production
Subject: Any thoughts on the Canon L1?
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:20:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hernes-sun

I'm planning on buying a new camcorder in the next few weeks, and
will most likely get a Canon L1. Before doing so, I thought I'd see
if anyone has any comments on why this is or is not a good choice.

Also, if anyone is interested, I've got an A1 for sale for $700.

Eric
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