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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #301
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:53:02 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Sun, 20 Dec 92       Volume 10 : Issue 301

Today's Topics:

      [*] Archie Client Repost
      [*] baby-smash.hqx
      [*] BazFaz - game.
      [*] brads-favorite-clip-art-11.hqx
      [*] Cheap Santa Quicktime movie
      [*] driver 2.1.8.sit - Update to Device Driver code
      [*] Easy View: CSMP Index
      [*] Home Improvement Sounds
      [*] hp-calc 1.0.sit.hqx
      [*] ignore-alpha-lock.hqx
      [*] More Desktop Patterns
      [*] picasso-jr.hqx
      [*] RecipeWare 1.09.sit
      [*] shakespeare pictures v.0.1.cpt.hqx
      [*] SoundTrecker file: Star Trek
      [*] Speak2Me
      [*] Upload (3 msgs)
      [*] Upload of Susan 2.0
      (A) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD
      (A) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD?
      Amiga to Mac file conversion.
      Apple's product line: ideas for the future...
      Apple 13" monitor shimmy
      Apple 13" Monitor Shimmy-Fixed!
      AppleTalk 58.0 again!
      auto color switcher and folder lock
      Can't Save To Floppy Without Emptying Trash (A)
      Classic w/Sys 7.1 -- too slow to bother?
      Creators & Types (C)
      decoding a QuickMail enclosed file
      Do StyleWriters really wear out quickly?
      greeting cards
      Guess What? System 7.1 is s-l-o-w!!!
      How to connect a modem
      HP 4M: an even better price, and some caveats
      IIvi vs. IIvx thank you for all the replies
      Installing AppleTalk Remote Access from 800K drive
      Italic fonts and hard drive icon color
      Low-cost Mac Midi SW recommendations?
      Mac hardware prices much cheeper than a previous  message stated.
      MacLayers
      MacLink/PC for all WP 4.2 ATARI users a solution.
      Maximum EtherTalk speed
      Modem Advice (A)
      Omega SANE
      Options
      Options (R)
      Patching OmegaSANE into 7.1
      Performa 600 vs. IIvx
      Problem: Mouse-Click Time Warp?
      Q: Recovery from Nuntius infinite folder bug
      Quadra Limitation (A)
      Re- Graphics package
      Serius Programmer (C)
      SLIPing into oblivion...
      StuffIt versions
      System 7 Desktop file
      Trouble with WORD 5.0 Equation Editor

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:22:58 PST
From: "Chris J McNeil" <cmcneil@macc2.mta.ca>
Subject: [*] Archie Client Repost

Enclosed is a repost of version 0.9 of an Archie Client for the Mac.

The previous posted file had been binhexed twice and this is confusing to
people. ( I forgot that my mailer automatically binhexes enclosures, sorry :(
)

What does it do ?
Archie allows you to query an Archie server to find files that are available
via anonymous ftp.

What do I need to run it ?
You must have MacTCP installed on your machine. I have only tested this
program
under system 7.01 and MacTCP 1.01.

What does it cost ?
Archie is Shareware and costs $6.00 US. See the README file or About Archie
for
details.

Please replace  info-mac/comm/archie-client-0.9.hqx with this one.

Chris McNeil
MTA University
Sackville NB Canada
cmcneil@mta.ca

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/archie-client-09.hqx; 70K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:49:23 -0500
From: Justin Robert Cohen <jcohen@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: [*] baby-smash.hqx

BabySmash 4.0    By Justin Cohen

BabySmash is a shareware application that is for keeping your young
kids happy without them accidentally dragging your word processor into
the trash can.  It basically just puts up random shapes and plays
random sounds when your kid smashes on the keyboard (baby smash?)
I know it sounds really stupid, and I'll admit it's my first real
Mac program, but it's surprisingly catchy to those under the age of 5.
I am amazed at how well it holds their attention.  Anyway, it's shareware,
so you have nothing to lose by trying.  As an added bonus, You can put
your own sounds into BabySmash using Sound Mover at no extra charge.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/baby-smash.hqx; 214K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:53:03 AST
From: "Glen Jordan" <jordan@jupiter.csd.unb.ca>
Subject: [*] BazFaz - game.

BazFaz is a Little Green Guy who has wandered into a bad part of the
universe...can you help him get back home?   A simple-mined but diverting
'shoot-'em-up' game for the Macintosh.

- Requires sys.4 or later; system 7 compatible.
- May be too slow for some 68000 or some colour machines.
- No sound effects on Mac Plus or SE machines.
- Shareware, $7.00

 J.B.Ward
 PO Box 21025
 Cole Harbour RPO
 Dartmouth, N.S.
 Canada   B2W 6B2

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bazfaz.hqx; 102K]

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Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:38:04 -0700
From: Brad_Stone@byu.edu (Brad Stone)
Subject: [*] brads-favorite-clip-art-11.hqx

  This file is an update to the info-mac:art:brads-favorite-clip-art.hqx on
sumex-aim.  It contains my personal collection of public domain clip art.
It is about 1.5 MB in size at this time.

  All clip art in this file is in 72 dpi paint format and stored in an
indexed hypercard stack.  This version contains a card size that fills a
13" monitor so as to get some of the larger pictures to fit, however those
with smaller monitors can use this stack by scrolling around a bit.

  This file is distributed via nice-ware.  If you use it, do something nice
for someone :-)

Brad_Stone@byu.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/art/brads-favorite-clip-art.hqx; 1951K]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:25:27 -0600
From: rohan@euler.jsc.nasa.gov (Rick Rohan)
Subject: [*] Cheap Santa Quicktime movie

This is a quicktime movie of Santa and his reindeer.
This movie is free to all those who still believe.
For those who don't, you won't get any presents this year  o<||:-{)>

This movie is best viewed in "Loop" mode.

Rick Rohan

[Archived as /info-mac/art/qt/santa-reindeer.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:21:05 -0600
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: [*] driver 2.1.8.sit - Update to Device Driver code

Attached please find the latest version of Pete Resnick's device driver
code. Please replace any older version that you may have with this.

This source code is intended to help you install device drivers that you
may write into the system heap properly. Though it is primarily aimed at
users of THINK C, it can be used in MPW 3.x and is easily adaptable to
other enviroments. This source code is freely distributable, though I do
ask that you give me credit if you use the code in any software.

Changes in 2.1.8 (17 December 1992):
 -----------------------------------
Added HNoPurge to the Get1SysXRsrc routine.

pr
--
Pete Resnick            (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/driver-218.hqx; 25K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:28:52 -0500
From: victor Norton<norton@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: [*] Easy View: CSMP Index

Here is an Easy View 2.2 index (viewer) for the C.S.M.P. Digests as
they appear in /info-mac/digest/csmp. It was written by Akif Eyler,
the author of Easy View. Though the index has been tailored
specifically for the csmp digest, it may work well with other digests
of a similar format.

In order to use the csmp index you will need Easy View 2.22. This is
archived as /info-mac/app/easy-view-22.hqx. When you have installed
Easy View 2.22, put the "c.s.m.p." folder containing the csmp index in
the "Sample Formats" folder in your "Easy View Folder". Then put a
copy of the index into a folder with a collection csmp digests. Open
this index and the digests will be indexed and displayed for _easy
viewing_. Add new digests to the folder as they become available.

Cheers.  - Vic

[Archived as /info-mac/app/easy-view-csmp-index.hqx; 2K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 05:05:45 -0500
From: schuyler@acf9.nyu.edu (Gabriel M. Schuyler)
Subject: [*] Home Improvement Sounds

As requested by someone (I don't remember who) in Info-mac, here are some
of Tim Allen's grunts, from the Home Improvement television show.

This is a self-extracting archive containing System 7 sound files.

Included are grunts for frustration, an "oh yeah" grunt, a "just you wait
'n' see" type of grunt, a high pitched grunt, and probably the most
appropriate for a system beep, a quick "Wha'?" type of grunt.

Have fun. . . .

-Gabe
---

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/home-improvement-tim-allen.hqx; 116K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:39:34 EST
From: wessler@ai.mit.edu (Mike Wessler)
Subject: [*] hp-calc 1.0.sit.hqx

HP Calc! is a Hewlett-Packard style calculator using reverse polish
notation.  It has almost all the features of a regular HP calculator
plus a few extras:

  * Full floating point hexidecimal, so you can deal with fixed-point
    numbers and fracts, or find out what pi is in hex...
  * 32 and 64 digit binary integers, in two's complement and +/- styles
  * online help
  * 100 memory locations for storing numbers
  * persistent memory, so when you quit and re-launch, nothing has
    changed  (this doesn't seem to work with AutoDoubler, unless you
    tell AutoDoubler not to compress the calculator)
  * keyboard shortcuts for most of the keys

This program is shareware for $10.  If you send a disk and a SASE with
your shareware fee, I'll send back some other programs I've been working
on.  If you're the first person to point out a bug, e-mail me, and
you'll get a free registration.  Enjoy.

Mike (wessler@ai.mit.edu)


(This BinHex file created by DownLine 1.1)

[Archived as /info-mac/util/hp-calculator-10.hqx; 61K]

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:26:19 +1100
From: Victor Tan <victort@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Subject: [*] ignore-alpha-lock.hqx

This is "IgnoreAlphaLock" v1.1 by Willy Verschooren.

This system extension makes the action taken by the 'capslock' key
obsolete for all the alphabetic characters.  This might sound strange,
but a lot of European Powerbook users will be happy to have this
extension.
Some keyboard (e.g. AZERTY) have numbers on the top row which are only
accessible through the shift key.  With some special keyboard layouts
the numbers are directly available when the capslock is on. If you
have no numeric keypad, this is the solution to enter numbers at ease,
but entering lowercase characters is painful.
With IgnoreAlphaLock and those special keyboard layouts, you have
numbers and lowercase.  The uppercase characters are accessible with
the shift key.

If you have a (QUERTY,I) keyboard with the numbers at the right place,
you can still use the IgnoreAlphaLock system extension when you
dislike UPPERCASE lock.

When you often access the wrong key (capslock in stead of shift), you
have probably typed about 50 characters before you see that everything
except the first character should lowercase -> use IgnoreAlphaLock and
only change that first character to uppercase.

Send 200 Bfr or 7$ to

Willy Verschooren
W.I.S.D.O.M.
Drossaertplein 5
B-2660 Hoboken (Antwerp)
Belgium

AppleLink : BISONSOFT
InterNet: BISONSOFT@applelink.apple.com

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[Archived as /info-mac/ex/ignore-alpha-lock.hqx; 45K]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:24:07 -0600
From: rohan@euler.jsc.nasa.gov (Rick Rohan)
Subject: [*] More Desktop Patterns

These are a few patterns for use with programs like "Desk Pattern" or "Desktop
Textures" or "Wallpaper".  Consult the documentation to these utilities on how
you might load these extra patterns.

Included are:
   Christmas bells on a starry background
   An impossible construction like pattern
   Several cube patterns
   A Honeycomb pattern in several colors
   Escher winged horses pattern
   Bubble board in several colors (in rememberance of the General control
   panel)
   The eight ball
   A very eye irritating blue and red neon pattern
   Random sized lines

All are well alaised and use the standard Mac 256 color palette.
These are free to those who would use them.

Rick Rohan

[Archived as /info-mac/art/desktop-misc-patterns.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 09:24 PST
From: mark@prepress.com (Mark S. Bubien)
Subject: [*] picasso-jr.hqx

Picasso Jr. is a drawing program for children ages 4 to 12.
Full color & BW support, sounds, color/BW printing, fun
to use, and extensible.  Fully tested by children ranging in
ages from 3 to 15!

Beginning artists of all ages will enjoy this easy-to-use draw
program, which was designed to let you create pictures and
interact with them, without any prior drawing program experience.
Picasso Jr. is unique in its use of pre-drawn objects, rather
than merely providing you with drawing tools.

Lots of great features that make this program seem more like
a game than a drawing program!

I posted this for a friend.  Contact him at:
acutabove@aol.com

[Archived as /info-mac/app/picasso-jr.hqx; 710K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:56 PST
From: Don Nakanishi/Gann Matsuda <IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: [*] RecipeWare 1.09.sit

Have you been looking for a good recipe filing program?  One that is
easy-to-use, yet has a lot of features like the ability to print on 4 x 6
index cards, or searching by title or category?  Well, this recipe database
is the one for you...with one restriction.  YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED
OWNER OF Panorama II, a database application by ProVUE Development,
to be able to use this custom database.  If you are, then RecipeWare 1.09 is
the program for you!

WARNING: THIS IS NOT A STAND-ALONE APPLICATION!  It requires
Panorama II!.

Freeware.  System 7.x compatible.  Stuffit Deluxe/Lite 3.0.x archive.
Documentation included.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/recipe-ware-11a.hqx; 42K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 05:11:55 PST
From: zimm@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (Mark Edward Zimmerman)
Subject: [*] shakespeare pictures v.0.1.cpt.hqx

appended below, mailer willing, is a 360kB file, "Shakespeare Picts v.0.1"
compressed with Compact Pro and binhex'd ... it consists of a HyperCard 2
stack with large cards containg Shakespeare's coat of arms and three early,
non-copyrighted portraits of the Immortal Bard, as scanned in by David
Wellestood (who grew up in Stratford-on-Avon and attended the same school
there as Shakespeare did!:-).  Also included in the archive are the four
original PICT files that David gave me last month, so that anybody who wants
to can make a better conversion to HC form (I used SuperPaint 3.0).  Free
software, under the GNU GPL....  happy holidays!  ^z

[Archived as /info-mac/art/shakespeare-picts-01.hqx; 358K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:19 GMT
From: JMPAYO@mvax.cbm.uam.es
Subject: [*] SoundTrecker file: Star Trek

I found on the Amiga archives of wuarchive.wustl.edu a couple of songs that I
would like to share with the net. I decompressed them with Mac LHa and then
converted them to the Mac SoundTracker format. This is "StarTreck".
Beautiful...

Jose M. Payo   <jmpayo@mvax.cbm.uam.es>
---

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/st/star-trek.hqx; 300K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:06:23 -0700
From: tonyh@lynx.msc.cornell.edu
Subject: [*] Speak2Me

Speak2Me is a control panel that reads aloud the name of the selected icon
in the Finder. It requires MacinTalk and System 7. I downloaded it from
AOL.

Tony Huang
tonyh@msc.cornell.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/speak-2-me.hqx; 24K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 05:16:12 -0500
From: trodrigu@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Tao R or Stephen L)
Subject: [*] Upload

Smart File - from trodrigu@zonker.ecs.umass.edu - .cpt format
A strong intelligence file for SUSAN

This is an intelligence file for SUSAN that I've been training
for a while.  I made it as an example for folks who want to
play against a strong opponent.  SUSAN 2.0 is required.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/susan-smart-file.hqx; 7K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 05:18:56 -0500
From: trodrigu@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Tao R or Stephen L)
Subject: [*] Upload

SUSAN Colors - from trodrigu@zonker.ecs.umass.edu - .cpt format
Subdued, elegant graphics for SUSAN!

This file contains the original SUSAN Colors graphics in a new
smaller package.  These are great graphics for folks who want
a subdued, elegant look for SUSAN.  If you want excitement and
stimulation, try SUSAN Colors #2.  SUSAN Colors is Copyright
1992 by Stephen Linhart, and is Freeware.  Requires SUSAN, 640K
available, and color or grayscale display.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/susan-colors-smaller.hqx; 154K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 05:19:28 -0500
From: trodrigu@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Tao R or Stephen L)
Subject: [*] Upload

SUSAN Colors #2 - from trodrigu@zonker.ecs.umass.edu - .cpt format
Wildly colorful graphics for SUSAN!

This file contains wildly colorful new graphics for the game SUSAN.
These are great graphics for folks who are looking for excitement
and stimulation.  If you want a more subdued look, try the original
SUSAN Colors.  SUSAN Colors #2 is Copyright 1992 by Stephen Linhart,
and is Freeware.  Requires SUSAN, 640K available, and color or
grayscale display.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/susan-colors-set-2.hqx; 388K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 05:19:49 -0500
From: trodrigu@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Tao R or Stephen L)
Subject: [*] Upload of Susan 2.0

SUSAN 2.0 - from trodrigu@zonker.ecs.umass.edu - .cpt format
Board game with AI that LEARNS!

SUSAN is a quick and subtle game for two players.  This is the
original board game with a new computer opponent that LEARNS by
playing, so it's always near your skill level.  And it makes
intelligence files that you can share with your friends.  SUSAN 2.0
is Copyright 1992 by Stephen Linhart, and is Freeware.  It runs in
color or B&W, and will use SUSAN Colors or SUSAN Colors #2 if you
have them.Needs System 6.0.2 or newer, including System 7.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/susan-20.hqx; 86K]

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:35:13 EST
From: "M. David Greenspon" <GREMICF@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Subject: (A) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD

>I just got a HDI30 SCSI Adaptor today for my PB160.  So I tried to
>connect my PB160 to a Mirror Removable 44 HD.  But my powerbook
>always came up as a SCSI Disk instead of being a computer.  I tried

You are using the wrong adapter.

There are two kinds of HDI-30 adapters:  the HDI-30 SCSI Disk Adapter, which
you have, and the HDI-30 SCSI System Cable.  They both have an HDI-30
connection on one end (sort of squarish) and a regular SCSI connection on the
other end.  But the System Cable is missing one pin.  I guess the PowerBook
checks to see if the pin is there and if it is, it goes into SCSI Disk Mode.

I have a PB160 and a Mirror Removable 88 HD, and I use both SCSI Disk Mode and
the Mirror drive (separately, of course).  Everything works fine.  That's the
good news--the bad news is that you'll have to go and shell out more $$$!

--David

(P.S. Actually, Mirror included the HDI-30 System Cable with my drive, along
with the regular SCSI System Cable that other computers use.  Maybe that's
because I explicitly told them I would be using it on a PowerBook...)

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:52:13 -0700
From: manuel@space.ualberta.ca
Subject: (A) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD?

jiangwu@postgres.berkeley.edu wrote:
> I just got a HDI30 SCSI Adaptor today for my PB160.  So I tried to
> connect my PB160 to a Mirror Removable 44 HD.  But my powerbook
> always came up as a SCSI Disk instead of being a computer.

I had exactly the same problem. What you have is the SCSI Disk Adapter. What
you need is the SCSI System Adapter. They are very similar in appearance...
the only difference is that the SCSI Disk Adapter somehow tells the PB to act
as a hard disk. I now own both cables :-)

---
John R. Manuel                   Department of Physics, University of Alberta
manuel@space.ualberta.ca                   Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA, T6G 2J1

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:29:38 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Crayne" <pcrayne@halcyon.halcyon.com>
Subject: Amiga to Mac file conversion.

> I am trying to get some WordPerfect files from Amiga to Mac (and vice
> versa
> if possible).  I know Amiga WordPerfect (the latest version) can save
> the
> files in IBM WP 4.2 format, but I don't know what kind of disk format
> Amiga uses.

The amiga disk format is not directly compatible with any others.
However, with a little software help, it can read & write MS-DOS format.
(Not Mac, though :-( )
On the Amiga install either MSH (shareware), MultiDos (shareware) or
CrossDos (Commercial). Any of these will allow it to read & write
MS-DOS. Once on MS-DOS format, a mac with Apple file exchange & a
Superdrive will do the trick.

-Pete (Good luck)
pcrayne@halcyon.com
"If there's one thing I can't stand its a butterfingered walrus" -T.
Tuxedo.

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Date: 20 Dec 92 02:16:34 -0400
From: seanmcd@ac.dal.ca
Subject: Apple's product line: ideas for the future...

With the February release of five new Macs, the total of current boxes will be
15; 15 different Macs with differnt names. While I'm familiar with them all,
I don't really know if this is the sort of direction Apple should be taking
with its hardware. Below are a few ideas.

First, as seen on this newsgroup, people get anxious when they know a new
cpu will be released: should I buy? should I wait? I feel this anxiety too,
but
it is less forceful for me since I only by VM's : virtual machines = $0. :-)
But seriously, with a new product comes a new name, and the impression that
you'll be missing out on something significant if you don't wait. Often,
the differences may be only speed or some other options.

I've been thinking that, since Apple has declared that it needs to bring
computers to market quickly to keep pace with advancing technology (e.g., the
IIvi/perf. 600/IIvx, and powerbooks) it should modularize its hardware
design. I see it as follows:

(1) A 1-slot pds/nubus Mac a la LCIII with 16 bit video for up to 16"
monitors.
16Mhz, 25Mhz, 33Mhz, 40Mhz 68030 varieties.

(2) Three slot nubus Mac a la IIvx with same video as (1); 25Mhz; 33Mhz 68030;
20Mhz, 25Mhz, 33Mhz 68040 flavours; option for ethernet

(3) Five slot nubus Mac a la 950 with same video as the 950; 25Mhz, 33Mhz,
40Mhz 68040; option for ethernet, DSP and other goodies

(4) Powerbook; option of passive b&w (low end); passive grey; active grey;
active colour; option for 16Mhz (low end, good for road machine); 25mhz;
33mhz; 40Mhz 68030 (if they can do it) + FPU for each; video out options
of: none; 13" 8 bit; 16" 16 bit

(5) Duo: same as for (4); we need a 16Mhz duo w. a b&w screen! Why? Apple's
talking about using these things in schools (students writing essays) and
business (doing whatever business people do) and linking up to a central
dock when needed. If you're trying to appeal to a market like this which is
supposed to capitalize on price savings, a cheap (let's say $1200) duo like
this is what is needed.

What's the point of this? An easy upgrade path through modularized
components.
Want a colour screen? Take your PB to your dealer, who pops in a new rom and
clicks on the new screen. A faster Mac? Take 'er in for an upgrade. Plus
now you'd have to choose between five basic configurations instead of 15
separate products. There would be more flexibility for consumers; for example,
as a programmer, I might like the fastest (1) machine going but I don't really
need the NuBus for expansion. Or I might like to get a (3) machine but I
don't have the money right now for the top of the line speed; however, when
I do, I don't have to trash my machine.

Any ideas? I find this concept intriguing. I think consumers are more savvy
now than they used to be, or at least there is a significant minority who
would like the flexibility to customize their Mac instead of taking what
Apple puts forth. It would also allow Apple to bring out faster machines
more quickly, as well as allowing users to upgrade their machines more
economically.

Comments and other ideas about Apple's product line and how it should be
implemented or changed, if at all, are eagerly awaited.

Sean McDowell
(a happy classic user -- at least i've got a full page display!)
seanmcd@ac.dal.ca

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 00:02:12 CST
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Apple 13" monitor shimmy

Just unpacked my LC from a long car trip. Got everything plugged in,
but now my Apple 13" monitor had a shimmy to it...the screen is sort of
vibrating a little.

I've checked cables and they seem secure. My monitor is in the serial
number range of "maybe-bad" capacitors or transformers or whatever..
could this be the problem?

Please respond directly to me, since I'm dialing up long distance from
vacation...(yipes!)

Rev

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 00:36:06 CST
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Apple 13" Monitor Shimmy-Fixed!

Disregard my previous message. I checked America Online and found that
flourescent lights can cause the shimmy problem...sure enough, the place
I'm at has a flourescent light about 5" above the monitor. I shut it off
and the monitor's fine.

How about that--"tech support" after midnight on a weekend!

Hope this helps someone else...

Rev

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Date: 18 December 1992 22:12:12 CST
From: Richard.Wolf@UIC.EDU
Subject: AppleTalk 58.0 again!

>>According to page 24 of this week's MacWeek, Apple is recommending that
>>all AppleTalk'ed Macs upgrade their AppleTalk version to 58 from 57.0.4.
>>The article also claims that the new Network Products Installer is on
>>AppleLink to which I do not yet have access.  The Network Products
>>Installer at ftp.apple.com doesn't seem to have this version of AppleTalk.
>>Is there any way in which I can do what Apple reccomends via FTP?
>>Am I, perhaps, just missing something obvious?
>>Richard K. Wolf

>The Network Software Installer 1.3 which includes AppleTalk v. 58 can be
found
>in ftp.apple.com /dts/mac/sys.soft/netcomm/net-soft-install-1-3.hqx

>Alonso

Arrrrgggghhhh!!!

Didn't I say that I ftp'ed the Network Products Installer from
ftp.apple.com??!!  When I try to run the Installer script from there
it won't work because I do not have any of the products that it wants
to install!!  I just want to install the AppleTalk 58.0 resources and
not the AppleTalk Internet Router, etc!  I'd love to know how to run the
Installer such that it only updates AppleTalk on any Mac to 58.0
without installing anything else!  As an experiment, I'd like everyone
to try upgrading AppleTalk versions without intalling anything else.
Then, E-mail me and teach me what the hell I'm doing wrong.

Seems to me that this oughta be distributed by Apple free of charge!

Richard K. Wolf
Small Systems Group/Computer Center
University of Illinois at Chicago
Richard.Wolf@uic.edu

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:34:35 GMT
From: dbutcher@shelley.u.washington.edu (Derek Butcher)
Subject: auto color switcher and folder lock

After looking through the abstracts for every directory on Info-mac, there
are still a couple of files I couldn't find, and I'm wondering if anyone
can help me.

First, is there a shareware da or cp that can automatically switch the monitor
depth? That is, a program wherein the desired depth would be set for each
app and when that app was opened, the depth would automatically be set.

Second, is there a password protect program (shareware again) that can
protect individual folders with a simple password? I saw a number that would
protect the machine on startup, but none that would protect various files/
folders independently, without having to go through the whole process of
making them invisible or using DES encryption.

Thanks for any tips!

Derek Butcher
dbutcher@shelley.u.washington.edu

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:45:56 -0800
From: Leslie_Ballentine@sfu.ca
Subject: Can't Save To Floppy Without Emptying Trash (A)

   Although many people responded to this question, no one mentioned what I
think is the most important point.  System 7 will not allow you to empty
the trash on one floppy disk without also emptying the trash on all mounted
volumes.  This means that you must also empty the trash on your hard disk,
which you probably do not wish to do.
   Good news - There is a solution.  Get Trashman ($10 shareware).  It is
written by  Dan Walkowski (email: walkowsk@cs.uiuc.edu).  It is in the
archive:
	    /info-mac/util/trash-man-403.hqx
  It not only allows you to selectively empty the trash on individual
floppy disks, but also selectively deletes items from the hard disk trash
after they have suitably aged.  It is one of the best shareware products
that I have ever seen.

Disclaimer:  I do not know Dan Walkowski, but I admire his work.

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:59:40 -0600 (CST)
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Classic w/Sys 7.1 -- too slow to bother?

I realize that at a certain point a user's expectations simply exceed
the ability of her computer.  Such may be the case with my Mac Classic
with regard to System 7.  I installed it one year ago and used it for
several months.  Finally I became exasperated at the performance drop
and reverted to System 6.

Along comes 7.1 and I think, hm, should I bite?  After all, I find
System 7 indispensable at work (aliasing files and servers, publishing
and subscribing, window hiding, "An older item named," etc. etc.)
and would love to be simpatico with that IIci.

So:

(1)     Is 7.1 even slower than 7.0?  Faster?  No diff?

(2)     Let's say I get a DayStar accelerator.  (A '030 type.)  How
	will that increase the value of 7.1, or won't it?  (I would
	assume I could do VM and QT with a '030 accelerator.)

I notice that the Apple Catalog continues to sell System 6, so it
appears the company remains committed to it.  Maybe I should too,
at least till I get a new Mac.  But feedback would be appreciated.

Aaron Barnhart
barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com
barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:24:43 PST
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Creators & Types (C)

>Is there a list of creators and types for various application

How about some bright coder out there writing a simple application that
scans a hard disk, grabs the creator and types and application names and
spews out a text file.

Info-mac could mail each of us this application. We could all run the
application and send the text results back to some address. This address
could have a process that ulls out duplicates and compiles a list.

Automated list creation?

Kee Nethery

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:31:17 -0500
From: brad@n1mnb.oau.org (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: decoding a QuickMail enclosed file

>I need to know how to decode a Mac file encoded in an e-mail message sent by
>QuickMail.  I don't have QuickMail.  The file is in uudecode-apple-single
>format.  I used UU-Lite and successfully converted it to a Mac file, but the
>resultant file still needs to be further converted.  It currently has
>creator type GCon and file type GIFf.  I know that it should eventually be
>a MSWord 4.0 file.
>
>Any suggestions?

That's a GIF file.  You read it with GIFConverter.  It is most definitely
NOT a MS Word file.

Brad Ackerman (brad@n1mnb.oau.org)

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Date: Sun, 20 DEC 92 13:39:01 GMT
From: EFE%V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Do StyleWriters really wear out quickly?

Do StyleWriters really wear out quickly?
   In the recent StyleWriter vs. DeskWriter debate, a common CLAIM
is that StyleWriters wear out after only about 5000 copies.
Salesmen seem to use this one a lot, and the light construction of
the machine makes it seem plausible. However, my wife and I have
used our StyleWriter for perhaps 3000 copies, and it is not
obvious to me what it is that actually wears out.
   Could people who have actually had StyleWriters expire due to
wear and tear (rather than manufacturing faults) explain what went
wrong and how soon this happened?
Many thanks, Eric Eisenhandler
Physics Department, Queen Mary & Westfield College,
University of London (EFE@V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK)

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 11:35:22 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: greeting cards

In Regards to your letter :
> I don't know about a shareware or freeware program to create greetings
> cards, but if short-term memory serves me well (a big if) Aldus has a
> special price on Personal Press at the moment and that program comes
> with lots of templates for greetings cards. I think they're bundling
> T/Maker clip art with it as well.
>
> I believe I read this in MacWeek and am not making it up. I think the
> special price was under $100.

Better work on those little gray short term memory cells, Graeme.
:-) I dropped a note about that in TidBITS#156, the last issue, and
the price was $88. And no, I unfortunately do not know if it's limited
to US users, but I wouldn't be surprised.

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 12:59:20 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Guess What? System 7.1 is s-l-o-w!!!

I've noticed a general sluggishness on my IIci, so I decided to investigate
the matter.  What I learned was a real eye opener!

According to MacEKG (2.0.5), my IIci's MPR (an overall speed rating --
faster is better) runs around 4222.  That is surprising since my IIsi
routinely runs around 6380.  The main difference between the two
(besides the obvious hardware difference) is that the IIci is running
system 7.1 while the IIsi runs 7.0.0. with Tune Up 1.1.1.

At first I assumed that I had added some new extension or control panel
that had bogged the IIci down.  So I restarted with a stock configuration.
That didn't really change things much, so I created a new System folder from
a tape backup of the IIsi's hard drive.  I unblessed the 7.1 System and
re-installed all extensions and cps in the 7.0 system folder.  Here are
the results I got:

     CPU     System    Configuration                     MPR
     ----    ------    --------------                    -----

     IIsi    7.0.0     Normal (comparable to IIci)        6380
     IIci    7.0.0     Normal                             6756
     IIci    7.1       Normal                             4222
     IIci    7.1       Stock*                             4611

* Stock means all non-Apple extensions and cps removed and all cards
  removed.  The only non-Apple cp running was MacEKG.

Clearly, System 7.1 on a IIci even in stock mode is slower than System
7.0.0 (with Tuneup) running on a IIsi!  WOW!!!!!

I've been following the conversation on the forum about Apple's decision
to leave OmegaSANE out of 7.1.  Now I'm wondering if this devistating
loss of performance is due to the loss of OmegaSANE, or if something
else is going on.

I guess I have two choices.  Take the IIci back to 7.0.1 or patch Omega-
SANE back into 7.1.  (Perhaps someone can pass those instructions along
to me, I missed them when they first appeared).

By the way, both the IIsi and IIci have cache cards running in them.

I'd like to hear from others about the performance of System 7.1.  Perhaps
we need to bring this to Apple's attention and ask what they plan to do
about it!

Jeffrey Fritz, jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
West Virginia University

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 08:42:12 PST
From: 9531sons%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini)
Subject: How to connect a modem

Marcus - I use a Mac modem cable to connect my Mac SE to a modem.  I
purchased the cable from the Black Box catalog folks and have also
seem then for sale at our campus bookstore (meaning that they're common
items).  Hope this helps,

					Jamie Sonsini
					UC Santa Barbara

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 18:38:49 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: HP 4M: an even better price, and some caveats

More on the 4M. Dale Denning tells me you can get it for approx $1750
at academic discount from an outfit called Elek-Tek, 800-395-1000, x5774.
Beats my own price of $1829 quite handsomely.

A couple of possible problems (tho' not for me, I'm relieved to say)
have emerged. (1) I may be missing something obvious, but it *seems*
to me that the 4M doesn't print TrueType fonts. The manual's only
mention of TT is in the context of Windows and says "your printer has
14 internal typefaces that match those included with Windows 3.1...you
can access TrueType thro' your Windows 3.1 and other applications."
Well, I can't get it to print Mac TT fonts, and switched to Type 1
versions, which (fortunately) I also possess. If you want to print
TT fonts, better ask HP first if you're thinking of buying a 4M.
(2) The LaserWriter Font Utility doesn't recognize the 4M, or at least
it gave me the message "Current printer is not a LaserWriter." The
good news is that the Adobe utility Downloader that comes with ATM
does recognize it, and I believe Downloader is at least the functional
equivalent of LFU. I just demonstrated to myself that for proofing
nonconsecutive pages, advance downloading of non-resident fonts saves a
*lot* of time. Of course, it would be better if applications would
allow you to specify arbitrary pages in a single print job.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:31 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: IIvi vs. IIvx thank you for all the replies

To all the people on the net, thanks.  By the way, what is the digest - is it
simply another name for the info-mac bulletin board?  (this may be an FAQ)
Sincerely, ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 08:10:05 EST
From: rjb1%sun@gte.com (Richard J. Brandau)
Subject: Installing AppleTalk Remote Access from 800K drive

In comp.sys.mac.digest Peter Jorgensen writes:
>We got several copies of AppleTalk Remote Access when we bought PowerBooks.
We
>haven't used some of the copies yet, and would like to install one on an SE.
>Unfortunately, the ARA disks we have are all High Density. Is there an 800K
>installation disk(s) for ARA? Any ideas on how we might install ARA on the SE
>with one 800K drive (it has a hard drive and is running system 7.0* - 4MB
RAM)

Supposedly, Apple makes an 800KB installation set for ARA, but I
wasn't willing to wait for it.

I arbitrarily divided the 1.4MB floppy's contents onto two 800KB
floppies, used AppDisk to create a RAM disk on the little machine,
giving it the same name and size as the ARA installation floppy, then
copied everything from the 800K floppies to the RAM disk.  The
Installer was satisfied running from the RAM disk.

-- Rich Brandau, GTE Labs, rjb1@gte.com

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Date: 19 Dec 1992 10:23:44 -0700 (MST)
From: SCOTTP@yvax.byu.edu
Subject: Italic fonts and hard drive icon color

Does anyone out there know how I can get fonts like courier, times, etc. to
show up in bold and italics. Looking in their respective suitcases I know
that there are italics and bolds, but they seem to have the same ID number.
Any ideas?

Also, my hard drive icon has turned green. I have reinstalled the system, and
even switched to system 7.1, but the Waldo that I have for an icon looks like
he's about to throw up. Is it just me?

Please help! Thanks.

scottp@byu.edu
Scott Papenfuss

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 21:30:42 EST
From: Theodore Lee <tmplee@TIS.COM>
Subject: Low-cost Mac Midi SW recommendations?

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:48:05 EST
From: tmplee
(second try -- first one doesn't seem to have taken.)
(and yes, I've looked over the FAQ's and files)

Could someone recommend inexpensive (freeware or shareware would be
even better) Midi software for a Mac IIci?  I've found an inexpensive
adapter that plugs into the ADB (or maybe it was the serial port -- I
didn't look at the cable closely)(I assume that's the easiest route)
for $50, but the cheapest SW I've found (Trax?)  seems to be around
$100.  It's for someone who's a good amateur keyboard player and just
wants to connect his Casio 650 to his computer and have fun, nothing
professional.  I know a lot about classical music and a lot about
computers but have no idea what you use the Midi interface for and
hence what to look for. (I know WHAT Midi is, I just don't know what
kind of software people write for it.)

tmplee@tis.com

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:57 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Mac hardware prices much cheeper than a previous  message stated.

From: IN%"williw1@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams)"
Date: 18-DEC-1992 18:28:43
Description: Options


<>With regards to Apple crippling systems, I have to disagree. Why would
<>anyone consider Apple introducing *more* options a bad thing? If you
<>want a balls-to-the wall machine, in the old tradition of Apple, get
<>a Quadra. If you can't afford it, Apple is trying to accomodate you by
<>selling cheaper machines. Sheesh, If an FPU is so utterly vital, there
<>are plenty of 3rd party - cheap - options! Take a deep breath everybody!


<Unfortunately, this is not the case.  Because Mac venders have been able to
<charge more for their peripherals over the years, they know they can still
<do so and get away with it.

<For example, mice for a Mac cost $70 (Logitech ADB), whereas you can get a
<DOS mouse for about $15.  Granted, the Mac circutry is more complicated,
<but not $55 more complicated.

<You can buy an FPU chip for about $70 for a DOS machine, but a Mac FPU card
<will cost at least $120.

<Modems are the most notorious scam.  A PC external 2400 baud modem will
<cost $150 at the most, but the same exact modem sold for a Macintosh will
<cost $250.  The only difference is the software and cable.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
williw1@mail.auburn.edu

To all concerned:
This is outrageous.  A MAC external 2400 baud modem costs only $99 at Mail
Order prices - the ZOOM Modem.  If you look at mouse prices, a recent mouse
for the mac (fully ADB compatible) in MacWorld, some cost as little as $30,
and yes also Logitech.   FPUs at MacSavings cost "$80" and less in some
cases.
Therefore the price gap in Hardware is not as big as Mr. Williams claims.
Softwarewise, schools get $500 of software bundled free with every new mac.
Thus before you claim hardware is expensive, check the two major mac
publications MacWorld and MacUser.  Both list impressively
 comparable prices to PC hardware.  All prices are quoted from adds read in
MacWorld and MacUser.  Also every mac comes free with a mouse, since when has
a PC compatible produced a free mouse with every system (perhaps trackballs,
but not mice).

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:21:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Linder <jeff@picasso.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: MacLayers

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I had an out of date copy (1.0)  1.10k
works just fine with sys 7 :)


Jeff

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:42 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: MacLink/PC for all WP 4.2 ATARI users a solution.

Addendum to previous message about MacLink/PC

TO ALL ATARI Word Perfect users:
Once your file is in IBM WP 4.2 format on a 3.5" floppy, put it in your mac
with MacLink/PC and translate it.  Thus MacLink/PC is capable of translating
some ATARI software into Macs!  With 600 translations and more, and $150 this
software package sounds hard to beat.

Sincerely,
ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:09:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Pascal Gosselin <pascal@CAM.ORG>
Subject: Maximum EtherTalk speed

My experience (with lesser Macs) has
been in the neighborhood  of 100 KBytes/sec.  This seems incredibly
inefficient!  Does anybody have any real-word timings?  Also, what kind of
software/hardware would you use to optimize these types of transfers?

I obtained 104 Kbytes/sec between a Quadra 900 and a Motorola server
running PacerShare.  A Quadra 700 -> Quadra 900 connection with AppleShare 3.0
running on the 950 generated close to half that number !

All tests were done with Network Software Installer 1.2.3, Quadra 900 used
built-in, Quad 700 used Asante' NuBus card.

I was able to FTP at 223 Kbytes/Second with Fetch (MacTCP) between the
Quad 900 and the Motorola 8120 server.

EtherTalk only has 256 byte packets, which is a small part of the problem. The
AppleTalk stack is just plain heavy.

-pascal@cam.org

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:50:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Stuart Greenfield <sjg@tenet.edu>
Subject: Modem Advice (A)

  I would like to thank the numerous people in the group who sent advise
on which 14.4 modem to obtain. The overwhelming majority of the responses
recommended the Supra FAXmodem V.32bis. This modem also received 4 mice in
the Nov. 92 issue of Macuser. After calling a number of mail order firms,
I as able to obtain a price of $322 from DPS, Inc. in Denver
(800-669-8194). If your interested in obtaining one, call them and ask for
Dave McCanless. tell them Stuart referred you.
  I was speaking with a friend o mine from UTexas, who related to me that
Apple during the past week lowered the university price of both the IIci
and IIsi by about $300. In fact, since he had purchased them after Apple
had lowered the price, but before they had notified the University
Microcenter his dept. was due a $300 refund. The official price at UT is
now $2135 for a IIci 5/80 with 14" monitor and ext. keyboard and $1635 for a
IIsi 5/80 w/ 14" monitor and ext. keyboard.
  Again, thank you all for your assistance and have a good holiday.

Stuart Greenfield
sjg@tenet.edu
Austin, TX

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 11:40:28 GMT
From: sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk (Sak Wathanasin)
Subject: Omega SANE

Apple Tech note 314 (under the old naming scheme) describes the Omega SANE
patches in great detail, and explains the compatibilty problems that it may
cause. The real life performance gain from Omega SANE (as opposed to
benchmarks)
would have been minimal for the simple reason that any application that used
SANE extensively would have got much better improvements by hitting the FPU
directly. People who really, really need it can find the Omega SANE init on
one of the developer CDs.

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:47:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu>
Subject: Options

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992, williw1@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams) wrote:

> You can buy an FPU chip for about $70 for a DOS machine, but a Mac FPU card
> will cost at least $120.

	Not so, or not for the LC.  You can find $70.00 FPUs for the LC at
	about
$70.00 and higher, depending upon the speed.

> Modems are the most notorious scam.  A PC external 2400 baud modem will
> cost $150 at the most, but the same exact modem sold for a Macintosh will
> cost $250.  The only difference is the software and cable.

	Again, not so.  A Supra External modem can be used for either a
Mac, PC, Commodore, or Atari.  The modem could care less which machine it
is hooked up to.  The cable costs will vary widely for all systems,
depending upon the make.  The most expensive price I've seen for a Mac
cable is $20.00 by Supra for the hardware handshaking cable.  Serial
cables for the IBM, Amiga, and Atari are certainly cheaper but not THAT
much cheaper. A modem such as the Supra will cost the same, no matter
which system it is purchased for.
	Fantastic communications software for the Mac can be had for
nearly nothing to no more than $40.00 if one prefers the non-commercial
route (MacKermit to Z-Term) and programs such as Z-Term are no slouch.
	(;>)

Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu>

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 1:28:39 -0500 (EST)
From: TAKEMOTO@xtal0.harvard.edu
Subject: Options (R)

williw1@mail.auburn.edu said:

>You can buy an FPU chip for about $70 for a DOS machine, but a Mac FPU card
>will cost at least $120.

That is simply false.  Looking at the most recent MacUser/MacWorld, I find
that
Mac Depot sells a 16 MHz FPU card for the LC for $67, and a Newer FPU-882 card
for the Classic II for $64.  Peripheral Outlet sells a 16 MHz 68882 FPU card
for
the LC for $65, and a 20 MHz 68882 FPU card for the Classic II for $65.

>Modems are the most notorious scam.  A PC external 2400 baud modem will
>cost $150 at the most, but the exact same modem sold for the Macintosh will
>cost $250.  The only difference is the software and cable.

$250 for an Mac external 2400 baud modem?!  I got my Hayes-compatible Zoom
2400
baud modem for $69, plus $10 for the cable, for a whopping $79.  A quick look
at
recent Mac magazines shows that the Zoom modem sells for $63 now.  In fact,
looking at the usual mail-order suspects reveals that most of the 2400 baud
modems sell for under $100, including cable and software, and the most
expensive
I found was the Hayes Optima 2400 bundle for $149.  I agree that a $250
external
2400 baud modem would be a scam on any platform, but as far as I can tell, it
doesn't conform with reality.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh; I just wanted to point out that you can
usually
get third-party peripherals cheaply if you shop around.  Whether or not the
companies (and the products they sell) are reliable is another matter.

I do not necessarily recommend any of the products or vendors listed above; I
only mentioned them to make a point.  I am satisfied with my modem, though;
it gets the job done, and it was cheap :-)

These are only my opinions...

Darin Takemoto
takemoto@xtal0.harvard.edu

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:57:44 -0700
From: parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (John R. Park)
Subject: Patching OmegaSANE into 7.1

My apologies for my long sig in a previous post.  I simply
forgot--another casualty of automation.

I thought many of you might be interested in the instructions
for patching OmegaSANE into your system 7.1 file.  For those who
are, read on.

Instructions for patching OmegaSANE routines into System 7.1

This only works for machines which have an FPU.  I personally have
had success on a IIci, SE/30 and a Mac II.

Open the System file on the install 1 disk of System 7.01.
Find the PACK resource and copy resource ID's 4 and 5
Open a copy of your System 7.1 file and paste in the resources
you just copied.

Find the ROv# resource in your system file and find the resource
corresponding to your ROM version number.  (Speedometer 3.1 will give
you this number in HEX.  $067C is 1660 in decimal so resource 1660 is
the ROv# resource to edit for a IIci.)  Open it and scroll to the bottom
of the list of types and IDs.  Click the last (null) item number at the
bottom of the list and select 'Insert New Field' from the Resource (?)
menu.  Enter PACK in the type field and 4 in the ID field.  Then insert
another field and enter PACK and 5.

Save the changes to the system and reboot. Then either you will have 7.1
with OmegaSANE installed or your mac will crash every time it uses SANE.

These instructions were condensed from e-mail sent to me by:
thomsonj@dcs.gla.ac.uk
     and
RTL@SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK

Many thanks to you gentlemen.


John R Park
parkj@bones.et.byu.edu

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Date: 17 Dec 92 04:26:48 GMT
From: daley@gemini.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Daley)
Subject: Performa 600 vs. IIvx

>From a look at recent traffic, there appears to be a number
of folks who are trying to decide, as I recently did, whether
a Performa 600/600CD, a IIci, or a IIvx/IIvx w/CD is the best
computer for the money. Ostensibly, a lot of these people are
buying a computer for home and/or family use.

After a lot of research and agonizing over the variables involved,
I finally bought a Performa 600CD. I've had an opportunity to evaluate
its performance vis-a-vis the Iici, which I previously owned. The
IIci was configured with a cache card AND a 24-bit video card
installed, had 8 MB of RAM and a 105 internal Quantum hard drive.

I disagree a recent opinion expressed that the Performa 600 series
is aimed at the same market as the IIci (although I'd have to admit
that I could be used as an example to contradict this argument! ;-)
The Performa 600 series is aimed squarely at the home/education
and multimedia market, whereas the IIci was primarily a DTP/high
performance machine.

In any case, the performance I've experienced with the P600CD so
far has been very, very comparable to that of the IIci. Video is
a bit slower (as compared against the video card in the IIci), but
that's certainly expected. Even without a math chip installed, most
software runs about like it did on the IIci. (Real world vs. lab
measurements effect here, I think.)

As far as the comparison with the IIvx, the case is clear: if you're
out for value, the P600 series has it all over the IIvx:

Advantage is signified by "*"

Factor             P600/600CD                      IIvx/IIvx w/CD
 -----------------------------------------------------------------
Processor          32 MHz 68030    <-- same -->    32 MHz 68030
Data bus           16 MHz (sigh)   <-- same -->    16 MHz (sigh)
Accelerator slot   available       <-- same -->    available

Base HD config     160 MB *                         80 MB
 -----------------------------------------------------------------
(Note: Performa 600CD 5/160/CD is $2499 list; IIvx 5/80/CD is locally
       about $2660 street. Most P600's are selling at list, due to
       demand outstripping supply.)
 -----------------------------------------------------------------
Extended Keybd II  included *                       extra (~ $149)

Integrated SW      included *                       extra

PC Exchange        included *                       extra

At Ease            included *                       extra

System SW          System 7.1P *                    System 7.1
			       ^
			       |-- IMHO
 -----------------------------------------------------------------
System 7.1P includes some useful utilities, such as Launcher and
Apple Backup. The only disadvantage is that Apple, for some unknown
reason, doesn't include the 7.1 floppy disks with the package. Go
figure!
 -----------------------------------------------------------------

Math chip          slot ready                       32 MHz 68882 in *

Cache              No capability                    32K installed   *

Onboard video      16-bit to 14" monitors        16-bit to 16" mons *

:::::::::::::::::::::::
So: the bottom line:
:::::::::::::::::::::::

If you don't care about maximizing your value per dollar (including
getting a larger hard drive for less money), or if you absolutely
must have either an onboard cache or onboard video support for 16"
monitors, go with the IIvx. It's a fine machine, and slightly out-
performs the IIci (according to most lab tests).

If you place value on any of the following:

1) a larger hard drive (160MB vs 80 MB)
2) integrated software
3) PC Exchange/DOS mounting software
4) At Ease (environment for kids or beginners, which is great)
5) paying less money than the IIvx and STILL getting the above,
   including a $149 keyboard

...then the Performa is a better choice.

At least one manufacturer (I think it was Technology Works) has
the 32MHz 68882 for the Performa 600 series in stock. Price is
about $149. (for those who need the extra performance for math-
intensive applications).

IMHO, it would be fairly difficult to notice the performance
difference between the Performa 600, the IIci, and the IIvx, if
you are using human sensors (not speedometer, a stopwatch, etc.)
unless you are using math-intensive applications. Once installing
the 68882 in the P600, I think all 3 machines will be within a
5% range of each other. (Prevailing theory is that it takes a
10% performance difference to be detectable by most humans.)

BTW, the CD 300i and PhotoCD are FANTASTIC. The included Compton's
Multimedia Encyclopedia, as well as the other CD discs included,
are great. QuickTime 1.5 looks great on the built-in 16-bit video.

Hope you find this useful!

Disclaimer: the above is my opinion, and does not necessarily
	    agree, or disagree, with anyone else's.

John

--

 John A. Daley, LCDR, USN            Computer Science Instructor, NPS Monterey
 Internet: daley@cs.nps.navy.mil                        America OnLine: JDaley

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 13:26:41 -0500
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Problem: Mouse-Click Time Warp?

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>I clicked in the close box to close a window, and nothing happened. When I
>moved the mouse to the close box again, the little "flash" graphic appeared
>inside the close box BEFORE I clicked the mouse button. In fact if I left
>the pointer there, the "flash" remained. When I clicked the mouse again,
>the window closed properly.

...

>Anyone seen anything like this?

Yes -- It happens with my SE/30 when I have my Kensington TurboMouse
hooked up, and hit the "Click Lock" button instead of the "Click"
button.  What happens is, a "Mouse-down" event is posted (given to the
application), but no "Mouse-up" event is generated.  The way Macintosh
controls (buttons, boxes, etc) work is that they require a mouse-down
and mouse-up inside them in order to register the event.  This is so
that if you click inside the 'control' mistakenly, you can move out of
it before releasing the button, and nothing will happen.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:43:04 -0500
From: spectra@tigger.jvnc.net
Subject: Q: Recovery from Nuntius infinite folder bug

I was one on the lucky ones to experience the bug in Nuntius 1.1.1b14 that
generated an infinite nest of folders in the system folder. I did not
crash, but now have a nest of folders that the finder will not delete. I
get a alert box telling me the folders are nested too deeply. Peeling off
20 or so layers and trashing each one individually works, but I'm always
left with a nest that won't trash. "Get info" always shows 99 items, so I
guess this is the max folder depth the finder can deal with. My machine
(SE/30, Sys. 7.0.1 w/tuneup 1.1.1) is running OK but this seems like a
disaster waiting to happen. Any suggestions on deleting this bag of worms
(er.....nest of folders)? Thanks
Tommy Arends     spectra@tigger.jvnc.net  or  toma@sp-eug.com

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:39:33 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: Quadra Limitation (A)

Quadras can use 1, 4, 8  and 16 meg SIMMs. The Qudra 700 has 4 1 meg SIMMs
soldered on, and 4 slots which can be fille 4x1 or 4x4 or 4x8 or 4x16, for a
total of 8, 20 36 or 68 megs. The 900 and 950 are more flexible, at least
at the upper end - 8 megs is the minimum allowed. There are 16 slots
so if you fill them all with 16 meg SIMMs you get 256 megs of RAM, more
space than most of us have on our hard disks.

I have heard of people putting 2 meg SIMMs in a 700. The machines did
not melt down but were subject to lots of random crashes. Not recommended
unless you like random crashes.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: 20 Dec 92 10:11:26 U
From: "Michael Hecht" <michael_hecht@mac.sas.com>
Subject: Re- Graphics package

REGARDING                Re: Graphics package
Hi Joseph,

You write:
>I would like to present the distribution of y's for each category of
>x without hiding the multiple frequencies of y.

>[...] Are there any Mac -based solutions? I've tried SAS-JMP [and
>others], none of which do the trick.

In JMP, you could do something like this:

* Summarize your data by your X and Y variables, using the Table:
Group/Summary
command.

* Give the N column of the summary table a Freq role.

* Make a copy of the N column (with the calculator, if you like) and give the
copy the Label role.

* Make a new row state column with a formula that assigns the label role to
any
row whose frequency is greater than 1.

* Run your 1-way ANOVA from this summary table.

* When you apply your computed row states, the multiples will be labeled with
a
count of the number of duplicates.

Also, the 1-way ANOVA graph displays the population size of each X category as
a proportion of the X axis, which may also help in your analysis.

As a registered JMP user, you can call our technical support number with
questions like this. The number is 919-677-8008.

Good luck!
--Michael


Michael P. Hecht                 | Internet:  Michael_Hecht@mac.sas.com
SAS Institute Inc.; Cary, NC USA | AppleLink: SAS.HECHT

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:24:22 PST
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Serius Programmer (C)

I bought a copy of Serius when it was called Notis89. It is a data flow
programming language and given that I have not learned C or Pascal, and I
know data flow, it seemed the answer to me writing programs. Wrong.

So far, there is uch that one can do with Serius but just as with
HyperCard, there are many times where you reach a limit that can only be
solved by custom code. With HyperCard there is a ready supply of XCMDs and
XFCNs that usually will fill the need. With Serius you write the code (an
object) yourself in ... C or Pascal or assembly. Thus, with Serius you can
get very close to the final application but not all the way without writing
real code in a "real" language.

At the last MacWorld Boston I asked to see example applications to see if
Serius 3.0 was richly robust enough to create applications without writing
custom objects. I was assured that when 3.0 shipped, the number of sample
demo applications using standard objects was going to increase since it
would be trivial to write them. I kept after them and even after 3.0
shipped, no samples.

Basically the technology looks interesting but I want to see tons of sample
"stacks" to see how they are put together to get a feel for what is
possible with the standard objects (without writing custom ones).

I have no confidence that the new version is still useable by non-C and
Pascal programmers. Maybe you should ask them for example apps before you
buy.

Kee Nethery

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 12:33 CST
From: EXPONENT@ucs.uwplatt.edu
Subject: SLIPing into oblivion...

Fellow NetOids,

I have a serial connection to my vax via 9600 baud (modem port) and need to
know if I can do TCP/IP using a product like SLIP.  Is there a shareware
version of SLIP or some other similar protocol that would allow me to use
TCP/IP.

ThanksInAdvance.

!MarkMAD! (Mark Dohm) U/Wisconsin-Platteville   Apple Student Rep.!
! "Yup, that sounds like a problem alright."                      !

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:27:17 -0800
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: StuffIt versions

There appears to be some confusion about the members of the StuffIt family
of compression products.  Here is some text that I wrote up the other day,
I hope you find it useful.

[commerical]
* StuffIt Deluxe - our commercial archiver which includes not only a more
powerful archiver (more features, but same ease of use & UI), but also a
collection of "tools" so you can stuff/unstuff from other applications -
Finder,
 QuicKeys, MPW, Hypercard, MicroPhone II, etc.  Also included is StuffIt
SpaceSaver.
* StuffIt SpaceSaver - our commercial transparent compressor.  This allows you
to easily have more space on your disk by compressing files, but making them
easily accessable. Also includes very simple archive capabilities.

[shareware]
* StuffIt Lite - the shareware archiver, and a "lite" version of Deluxe.
Includes all the basics that one would want/need in an archiver, and some
extras.

[freeware]
* UnStuffIt - freeware program for UnStuffing archives.
* StuffIt Expander - freeware program for expanding the standard Mac online
formats - BinHex, StuffIt, Compact Pro & AppleLink files.
* CPT2SIT - freeware program for converting CPT files to StuffIt archives

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:50:14 -0800
From: bjturner@lynx.cs.usfca.edu (Benjamin J. Turner)
Subject: System 7 Desktop file

	Yes, system 7 is trying to install it's own version of the Desktop
	file.
It consists of several files, actually. I've never had problems using System 7
disks on System 6 computers, although you can see several folders that are
invisible under System 7 while in System 6 (Desktop, Trash). The new desktop
files don't cause any problems with the old one, but System 7 will update its
files every time it finds the desktop has been 'touched' by System 6, which
may end up taking extra time.... I wouldn't worry about problems between
moving
a disk between systems; I do it all the time with no problems.
		Benjamin Turner, bjturner@lynx.cs.usfca.edu

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 21:52:42 SET
From: Matthias <SCHRODER%CERNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Trouble with WORD 5.0 Equation Editor

Dear friends of the WORD,
  I have a serious problem with the Equation Editor, delivered with
WORD 5.0. I need a character that is produced by option-l. This works
quite nice inside WORD. But when I try to use it in an equation using
the Equation Editor, I can not create that character! The famous and
oh so intelligent EE does not allow me to choose the font for characters
that are made by hitting option-l (as well as some other option-character
combinations).
 I tried to put that character in a longer string and change the font for
the whole string. All characters change, except my option-l. I tried to
copy that sign from another document, and it changes immediatly to the
default font.  No way to get my special symbol!
Now my questions: Is this a feature or is this a bug ? Does anybody have
an idea how to tell EE to give me my symbol ?
  I tried to get some help from Microsoft in switzerland, but the only
answer to my letter was a phone call saying that MS switzerland does
not have people with Mac experience and that they forwarded my mail to
germany. That was it. I never again heard from MS. I sent a second letter
asking from whom I could expect help with my problems. No answer
whatsoever.
  It took them 8 weeks to process my registration. It took them again
several weeks to do it correctly. Now they sent me letters about about
windows, windows for workgroups, word for windows, but not a single
word regarding Mac software.
  And for this kind of service people in europe have to pay two to three
times as much as the people in the US!!!

Ok, flame off. Can someone please help me in getting my nice symbol ?

Thanks in advance. And Greetings to everybody.
						 Matthias
schroder@cernvm.cern.ch

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:43:14 -0600
From: oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Life is illusion.)

This thing still doesn't have a subject prompt...

Question to everyone out in net-land?  Is there a 32-bit clean version of
Adobe Type Manager?  I have ATM 2.0.3 and every time I kick in the 32-bit
addrressing, the system hangs when I try to use a type 1.  It is annoying,
dare I say extremely frustrating to have 10 MB RAM and have a system gobble
up two for little reason.  I do a lot of text processing and DTP and such,
and the type 1 fonts are a large part of my library.  I'd like to use them
as well as that extra 2mb at the same time, if possible.  If anyone knows
about a revision I'm missing, or an upgrade that I wasn't notified about
or something that'll ease my ills (heck, I'll take code hacks if necessary...
I've got a backup of ATM and everything else I own so I can't damage too much)
Thanx mucho to anyone who answers.  Thanx to everyone else for just putting
up with my ranting.

Eric Oehler
oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu

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