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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:20:49 GMT
Keywords: it sucks

opndick@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Dick Piechowicz) writes:
>SHUT UP!!!!!!!!! some of us people DO like Pearl Jam, along with other really
>heavy stuff. maybe you should watch more than just the countdown. during the
>real headbangers ball (12am-2am) they still play iron maiden, queensryche,
>megadeth, OLD metallica,ect. so next time PAY ATTENTION!!! instead of
>sleeping!!!        
>                                          yers truly,
>                                                     Kay

Uh, excuse me...are you watching the same Headgiver's Ball that we are?  And
so you do like Pearl Jam...good, that is great, hey I even like a few tunes,
but I think one of the points being made is do they really belong on a show
called "Headbanger's Ball". Shit I'd be happy if they at least change the
name.  It's like saying that Entombed could be played on 120minutes.  It just
doesn't fit the genre really.  No flame on the Pearl Jammers, just an MTV
flame.  I would like to point out one VERY VERY VERY huge flaw in your
statement.  THERE WERE NO VIDEOS MADE FOR OLD METALLICA :)  Remember, they
didn't make any videos until "One"...Maybe you should pay attention a little
more instead of yelling at us.  And uh, I really don't think Queensryche is
headbanging music either..can't really see myself moshing to "Silent
Lucidity" or "Empire" or anything like that...they play Megadeth because they
have somehow recruited Dave Mustaine as their only source of semi-real metal
legitimization and I dunno if Iron Maiden is really all that banging anymore,
or ever was compared to today's music, but there are a lot of Maideners ou
there, and I used to be one, so I dunno.  I think I would consider it the
"Heavy Metal Ball" MAYBE, but "HEadBANGERS" I don't think so.

				still waiting to see the video for "The
				Four Horsemen" and wanting desperately to see
				people do some moshing and headbanging to
				"The Lumberjack" (my vote for most
				hilariously poor song ever),

				the man
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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Organization: Cthulhoid Entities for a Better Tomorrow
	<1992Dec13.160140.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> <104949@bu.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:15:30 GMT

In article <104949@bu.edu> venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes:


   >'Nuff said? Good! Remember:  Sabbath sucks, Sabbat rules! Watch out for tha
   >unnecessary 'h', boys 'n girls, cause Walkyier is wild!
   >
   >--Semhaza

   Sabbath sucks? Suck my motherfucking dick, asshole!

Down with the attitude Leonid... 
Insulting a band is hardly the worst crime in the world.
And, watch yer language, the news in general have cleaned up a lot
recently. 
Yes, a rude word tells more than a thousand pictures but
only in live converation. Used in the net they just seem silly, especially
when used in non serious places.

   Sabbath's been around for more than 20 years and you'll see what
   ppl will say about SABBAT even in 5 years!

What has time got to do with this ? Frank Sinatra has been around for
more than a hundred years (looks that old at least :-) and ppl still don't 
compare James Hetfield to him.

   Duh!

Whatever.

   Leonid,

--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : "Military intelligence - two words combined that
                           can't make sense.

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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Newer Black Sabbath
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:44:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.205640.1@research.ptt.nl> mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.133847.5995@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec12.012758.1@research.ptt.nl> mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
>>>In article <Bz00xI.DL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (HAVE YOU HAD YOUR SPAM TODAY?) writes:
>>>> In article <ByzvDF.M35@math.uwaterloo.ca>, amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault) writes...
>>>>>In article <1992Dec9.033153.24459@news.acns.nwu.edu> autopsy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gregory Baumgartel) writes:
>>>>>	Born Again had Ian Gillan (of Deep Purple fame), Seventh Star featured
>>>>>Glen Hughes.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>   Glen Hughes is also of Deep Purple fame.He played bass on the last couple
>>>> of albums.He also was in the Butterfly Ball(??). He sang the Bat.
>>>> It was a cool song for a childrens album.
>>>
>>>Wel he did not play bass on the last couple of Deep Purple 
>>>albums. These featured Roger Glover again. But you mean the
>>>Mark III & IV albums. These are not the last since the Mark II 
>>>reunion and the one with Joe Lynn Turner.
>>>
>>>    Mike
>> 
>> No he doesn't mean Mark II or anythng. He is referring to the last few albums
>> made before Deep Purple broke up the first time.
>> 
>> try listening to "Come Taste The Band" sometime...
>
>No, he means Mark III & IV. But that's what I said or after 
>reading it again, tried to say! Next time I should not post so 
>late in the evening.
>
>    Mike

Hard to say, I don't know Mark III or IV, but I have the old DP albums with
Hughes on Bass and Vocals.

					--Judex--

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Snake Charmer
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:54:45 GMT


>I just got this demo by a band called Snake Charmer.
>This is the best demo I have heard, and I'm still only on the first song.
>Singer sounds like a mix of Geoff Tate and James LaBrie, I guess, it's hard to
>tell. He also plays guitars and keyboards.  Name Ray Furtivo.
>Bassist Victor Rossi sounds pretty good. As does Mark Simko, the drummer.
>Song list is
>	Fools
>	Shadows Of The Damned
>	When There's Nothing Left
>	Straightjacket
>	Modern Psych
>
>Very progressive sound, I guess. Power metallish here and there. Actually, it
>has a slight NWOBHM sound to it, but I can't place it. It's really good, if
>any of you run across it.
>
>Better review after I've heard it all.
>
Singer is a hybrid of Geoff Tate, James LaBrie, and Geddy Lee. Hardly any
overdubs as far as guitar soloing, so bass guitar is in fact rhythm guitar
and guitarist plays solos over that constantly. What bugs me is the dude
sings at the same time. Talk about coordinated. This is a real cool demo. 
I wonder if they'll make an album? The demo came out in 1991.

philip
Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my brain
 if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"
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From: ryanm@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Anthrax poll
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:00:39 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University


Hey everybody

Don't see too much of Anthrax on the net so I'd see what everybody thinks of
them.  I have decided to do a poll and I would appreciate it if you could
answer a few questions or make any comments, e-mail them to me and then I will
post the results.  So here goes:

1.  What is your favorite Anthrax album?

2.  What is your least favorite album?

3.  Are glad/pissed off Joey is out of the band?

4.  And do you think John Bush is a good replacement?

Well that is all I could think of so anything else you want to add would be
cool.

Thanks x2


Mike Ryan

e-mail at ryanm@vax.sonoma.edu
From: tipeve@uta.fi (Pertti Vehkalahti)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Cannibal Corpse
Keywords: Necropedophilia
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:23:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland



Can anybody tell me what do the children scream at the end of Cannibal Corpse
song NECROPEDOPHILIA? It's from the newest album "Tomb of the Mutilated"

The first child repeats "I gotcha, I gotcha...", but what the other says 
is something I can't figure out.

What makes this amusing is that it sounds perfectly like a finnish word "HUORA"
which means "prostitute"... :)
------------------------------------------------------
Pertti Vehkalahti
University of Tampere, Finland
tipeve@uta.fi

 


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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Annihilator question...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.161848.27293@dvorak.amd.com> jeffs@dvorak.amd.com (Jeff Sobotka) writes:
>>Then I heard Never Neverland, and it was total crap from start to finish. They even
>>tried to explain the songs on the inlay card, pathetic or wot ?
>>
>
>If you didn't notice, they did that on AiH too. I think Jeff Waters, who

	You're right, but the explanations of the Alice In Hell lyrics are more
poetic, resembling themselves song lyrics, which gives the reader a nice intro
to the what he/she is about to listen to.  Never Never Land has Jeff Waters
simply narrating his interpretations, without any kind of artistic twist to
these explanations.  There's a definite difference if you reread both sets of
interpretations.

>wrote everything and recorded *all* of the bass, rhythm, and leads, is
>quite an amazing guitar player. His style is very tight and precise. 

	Agreed.  The intro on Alice In Hell is quite impressive and indicative
of much talent.  Funny though, how there's a picture of "the band" included,
even though the rhythm guitarist and bassist didn't even DO anything on the
album!!  OK, so they're hired guns for touring purposes, but did that merit
them a picture on the album?  I think not.

>Annihilator is basically medium heavy metal, with a dark and mysterious
>overtone to it. The 'sing'er kinda growls, but not like death metal. AiH
>is very good, but I have to agree that Never, Neverland SUCKS!
>
	Does it ever.  I hope that last album doesn't kill off Annihilator.
Further, I pray to the gods that he'll get rid of Coburn Pharr, a terribly
boring singer in my opinion.  Funny, but Randy Rampage (off AiH) was much less
proficient a vocalist than Pharr, but at least his vocals are different, and
sort of interesting, whereas Pharr's just make me nod off.

Screaming in the night,
						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
                                                     __   __            
                                                    /  `-' /          ,,
                                                    |[====|||||||||||[::}
                                                    \__.-._\          ``
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From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: Ozzy and Bill Ward singing
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:48:21 GMT

In article <sf9ah4_00WBKA61ldY@andrew.cmu.edu> "Marc E. Colosimo" <mc6i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
<...>
>   Solitude also sounds like ward, but there are somethings about the
>voice which are Ozzy like(the way he sings). But only they know who it
>is.

I've heard Solitude was sung by Tony Iommi. Does anyone know for sure?

                               -Maza


.

Yeah, I know the times are bad
When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)
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From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater ???????????????????
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:24:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.202030.25054@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec13.192704.3246@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes...
>> 
>>>I got him to send me Fates' Warning's Parallels and Dream Theater's Images and
>>>Words.  I must say that DT's vocalist blows away Fates' Warning's.  Fates'
>>>singer tries to sound like Goeff Tate too much, anyway.
>>>
>>>						  Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
>> 
>> 
>>Gotta disagree...Parallels isn't the best example; go get _Perfect Symmetry_
>>or _No Exit_ and listen to mind-boggling vocals.  On _Parallels_, Ray has a
>>little more finesse, but I love his vox on his first two Fates' albums.
>>And he is UNREAL live.  Hits every note and more.  Geoff, unfortunately,
>>doesn't really do that anymore, although I still love his voice too.
>>And I really really really don't think Ray's trying to sound like Geoff.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>s
>
>	James Labrie (Dream Theater's vocalist) has an absolutely incredible
>voice... he has unbeatable talent and the whole group puts on an AWESOME live
>performance... he also hits every note and more.... can't wait until January
>9th to see DT at Chapter II/11 in Salisbury, MA!!!!!  I don't think I'll be
>able to make it to the Axis show in Boston on December 16th, unfortunately...
>from what someone else posted in alt.rnr.metal.heavy.progressive, the band adds
>a new song to their set as a special Christmas treat... I would *LOVE* to hear
>those guys whale on that selection.... *deep sigh*
>
>-- KSV


I also agree.. I saw them here in Washington DC last Thursday and the show
was awesome! They are extremely tight! I met the band afterwards and the
guitarist is cool but the keyboardist probably thinks I am certifiable
(what made me ask him what a sub-distorter was?)

Phil

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: crg@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Chuck Grissom)
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:28:02 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Keywords: it sucks

I agree.  Headbanger's Ball used to be good, now it sucks bad (not just the
stupid countdown, all the way through).  If you watch the whole thing, you might
see two good videos.
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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Candlemass Quick Question (or two)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:14:00 GMT

Sitting here listening to Candlemass' "Tales of Creation", I am prompted to
ask if their other albums are as good?  I have seen Doomis Metallicus
whateverus and Candlemass live...are these good, better than Tales, do they
sound good live, do they have anymore, etc etc etc.

Was also wondering what other groups in this type of genre that could be
recommended.  I guess you would call it Doom (they even do in the Album name
Doomis Metallicus), but it is almost more gothic.  I have Cathedral, I have
Skyclad, and  was wondering what else I may get...not that skyclad is like
Candlemass, but you know...thanks

				the man
From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: MORE ON THIS SELLING OUT THING
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:07:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

raj@zx.qsp.UUCP (Raj Dosaj) writes:



>If you saw Metallica on their last tour then you know for sure that they
>have sold out (hopefully they figure this out and go back).  The whole
>show seemed that like that same phony shit you see all the glam bands
>doing.  The video camera behind the scenes of the show, the "drum battle",
>and all the other senseless shit they did, annoyed the fuck out of me.
>I remember when they simply played song after song and gave you all they
>had.  Now it seems like they feel compelled to give us the same crap that
>other bands give us.  Fuck the explosions and laser displays and extra long
>solos.  I came to the show to see them play not to try to appeal to their
>new "video" crowd.  If you leave a show, any show, and the thing you remem-
>ber the most was some pyrotechnic display, then you better think about
>what you really paid to see.  Remember, Lazerium is a lot cheaper than
>a concert.

>Raj


WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT a minute...now I am not saying yer wrong on anything, and
I agree, maybe some of the stuff they did was a little cute, but I think
you're going to see concerts for the wrong reason.  Shit, if I just wanted to
hear the songs, I'd save $20 and listen to the CD's all nite...how could you
NOT want to hear your favorite (and I don't necessarily mean Metallica by the
way) guys jam on stage....I LOVE to see my favorite bands show off their solo
skills, shit it's fresh stuff, man!  I dunno, when you quit wanting to hear
musicians and just want to hear songs, maybe it's time you re-think.
Solos/musical ability is what makes a band, not how catchy a tune of theirs
can be.  I liked the long solo parts...so sue me.

						the man

P.S. Yeah, pyrotechnics are a little cliche, but I gotta say, Metallica's was
really really cool...the simulated machine gun fire was awesome, you could
FEEL the heat of the explosions way in the boonies, and the strobe display
during "One" was PHENOMENAL...still a great band live, no doubt for me

IMHO IMHO of course :)   <----- cheesy, but true disclaimer
From: pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul Bolle)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:38:05 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

- For those of us who have remained fans despite Adrian Smith's (or even Paul
- Di'anno's) departure, how many of you have the new one? I've been listening t
- this one much more often now, more so than the old ones, and I really can't
- find too many similarities between the songs here and on anything else they 
- did. Well, on "Fear Of The Dark," I hear shades of SEVENTH SON OF A SEVENTH S
- and on "Afraid To Shoot Strangers" I hear a bit of the medieval sound they we
- trying to get on NO PRAYER FOR THE DYING but didn't get it as well as they di
- here. I hear a slight return to stuff like "Hallowed Be Thy Name" and "To Tam
- A Land" but you cannot hear anything off the POWERSLAVE - SEVENTH SON OF A
- SEVENTH SON at all except for what I mentioned above. Now that I think about 
- Dickinson doesn't growl as much as he did on NO PRAYER and TATTOOED MILLIONAI
- (which I think is good because I don't like it when he growls). Actually, now
- that I think about it, I can't hear any Paul Di'anno-isms except that there a
- several ballads now on the album, which is cool since I haven't heard a 
- Dickinson ballad since what? "Revelations?" "Remember Tomorrow" doesn't count
- even though it was a b-side cuz that's Di'anno's song and in my opinion alway
- will be. I don't think Dickinson can sing ANY of Di'anno's stuff with the
- exception of "Phantom Of The Opera" but then he wouldn't be expected to since
- Harris didn't write any of the stuff for him till he joined. One thinkg I
- really like about Harris - he doesn't write for a generic band, he writes for
- his own band and whoever is in it. 
- 
- Comments?
- 
- philip
- 
- 
- 
- Philip Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
- "Memories persist, succubus I've kissed, my thoughts remiss, I'll lose my bra
-  if you don't wake me" - Defenestration, "Battle Of The Hemispheres"

   Fan? Me? You betcha. Maiden. Gotta love that. 
          Up the Irons!!!!
/a

Paul Bolle              pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: st1h4@jane.uh.edu (Middlebrooks, Karl D.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Goty new videos
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:38 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <104524@bu.edu>, venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky) writes...
> 
>  Got video from CELTIC FROST "Live at Hammersmith" 1989.
> 
>This iis the worst thing I have ever seen by this band.
>Shit.Poseur wimps.Line  up was the same as on COLD LAKE.Lead
>guitarist OLIVER AMBERG is stupid dickhead.Tom Warrior's voice
>sucked.I just can't believe that this was the same Tom Warrior that
>sang MESSIAH when he was in HELLHAMMER
> 
> 
What do you expect?  Into the Pandemonium was the last good album
they put out.  I wouldn't mind having the video just because
it's Celtic Frost, and I wasn't fortunate enough to get the 
chance to see them perform.  I was fairly impressed with the 
_Parched With Thirst Am I And Dying_ release, though I thought
they could have left off the Vanity/Nemesis stuff.  

There's a band called Tiamat which really reminds me of old
Celtic Frost, from the _Morbid Tales_ and _To Mgeatherian_
period.

Absalom
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From: djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man )
Subject: Re: Selling out
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:02:11 GMT

[stuff deleted razor lyrics, etc.]

Hmm...I kind of like this.  One thing I don't agree on is that they imply
that they CAN write a good song in their lyrics.  Now I have never heard
these guys, but I don't think they should insinuate things like this.  Let us
be the judges :)  Otherwise, yeah.  I was one of those defending Metallica at
the onset of the Sell-out wars, but it's getting tougher and tougher every
time.  Especially since I recently read an interview (Roliing Stone maybe?)
where they talked about Bob Rock, etc. and Lars said they wanted rock because
they thought the sound on motley Crue's "Dr. Feelgood" was "Hard-on".  This
made me uteerly puke.  Now, I dunno about you, but the day motley crue broke
up was a day of rejoicing and a victory won against the crap glam-metal poser
shit that is starting to ruin this sacred genre of music.  But the loss of
Metallica has set us back quite a bit, and the onlyt solution...play the
Entombed, the Cathedral and all the rest even louder.  Just what methinks.
WE WANT METALLICA BACK FROM THE GLAM-CHILDREN!!!!  SDorry, that slipped out.

					slowly giving up on metallica, but
					still thinking they kick butt live,
					and depressed that metal is starting
					to be invaded,

					the man

P.S. Oh, my god,...does this mean I agre with The Pope?  In ideals maybe, but
never methods
From: mech14017020@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Lethal
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:14:27 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <Bz92w7.8Bx@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (HAVE YOU HAD YOUR SPAM TODAY?) writes:
> 
>      For those who haven't heard them,they were constantly
> compared to Fates Warning when they first came out.The Album
> is fantastic,but was also very tough to find.I had to special
> order a copy becuase they only had it on tape at the one store
> in Buffalo that even carried them. 
>                                                   Mandrake

I think Lethal is a great band. I have 'Programmed' and I've played it to
death. A now defunct record store in my hometown just happened to have a 
copy of it. The guy who worked there kept comparing them to Crimson Glory.
I think it's a fusion with Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, and Iron Maiden
(though the Iron Maiden is only apparent in the title track). For everyone
who doesn't have this album, get it. It's good. They also had a video for
'Immune' on Mtv. It was only shown a couple of times though.

		Troy
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