From: herrage@crchh451.bnr.ca (Robert Herrage)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Theater Sounds Like RUSH -- NOT!
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:27:42 GMT
Reply-To: herrage@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR

In article <1992Sep4.031513.28044@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes:
|> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Sep03.134108.10819@bnr.ca> herrage@bnr.ca writes:
|> >>I completely disagree with whoever thought that Dream Theater sounded a lot
|> >>like RUSH.  Someone I work with picked up their "Images and Words" CD and
|> >>loaned it to me.  I've listened to the whole thing at least twice and could
|> >>not find anything musically, technically, lyrically, or instrumentally com-
|> >>mon between them and RUSH.
|> 
|> >>Personally, Dream Theater is too choppy with their phrasing.  There's not
|> >>any smooth flowing.  I also don't care that much for drummers/percussion-
|> >>ists who try to cram too much where it doesn't belong (musically).  This
|> >>guy is technically capable but doesn't have the qualities of a musician
|> >>(at least in the terms I've mentioned above).  I also don't like bands
|> >>that make songs with time signature changes just for the sake of having
|> >>them.  There are a lot of these that just don't fit (musically) where they
|> >>occurred. 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> >Gregg
|> 
|> 
|> >-- 
|> >Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)     | Tristero?   ______/|/|  Treestero?
|> >Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
|> >Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 --------------------- 
|> 
|> ok...I bought Images and Words, and loved it....
|> 
|> bearing in mind that rush is not my only musical preference, I thought
|> that it sounded like all the best bits of the following:
|> 	Yes
|> 	Marillion (esp the keyboards)
|> 	Queensryche (the O: MC days)
|> 	and a bit of Metallica
|> 
|> as I am fan of all the above DT really appealed to me...I am not so
|> narrow minded about music to think that everyting must sound like rush
|> (THIS IS NOT A FLAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE AIRED THEIR VIEWS IT IS JUST
|> AN OPINION) rant mode off
|> 
|> so, i think DT are cool, but rush are probably more adept at the
|> compositional side, but i reckon that Mike Portnoy sounds like Mr Peart
|> (as does Scott Rockenfield and Mark Zonder)
|> 
|> later dudes
|> 
|> Adam
|> University of Western Australia
|> 

Please don't consider ME narrow-minded.  No, I don't think that everything
must sound like RUSH.  Again, I think that DT has a lot of technical merit;
and if you like those groups mentioned above, you might very well like DT.
I like YES and a some Queensryche stuff, yet I don't really care for DT.

I still say, tho (IMO), that Peart seems considerably more *meticulous* than
these other guys (I haven't paid enough attention to these other bands to 
match names with their respective bands, so you'll excuse me for not being 
more specific).  That's not to say that they couldn't be; their style may not 
be that way on purpose (as I'm sure it is).  But I have yet to find any sim-
ilarity between these other drummers and Peart (maybe with the exception of 
Queensryche's drummer -- since he does profess to be a RUSH listener himself).

RUSH (if I'm not mistaken) does not like being compared to or consider a 
"metal" band.  Queensryche, DT, & Metallica, however, definitely fit that 
bill (IMO).  As a typical example of Peart being different from these other
drummers, I recall reading in a Modern Drummer interview that Peart made a
statement along the lines of "not liking to play double-bass 16th notes as a
beat; he prefers them more for fills, special effects, etc.".  Drummers for
Queensryche, DT, & Metallica do this kind of thing quite a bit.  As well, I
don't see attention to dynamics in their playing.  Sure it's there, just not
as tasteful at times (IMO).

Anyway, like I said before, don't base your decision on my opinion(s).  I just
recommend (as always) that you listen before you buy :)

Rob
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