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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Arena rats and Liz
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:25:07 GMT
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Posted-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 13: 25:07 cst
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Scott Simpson made reference to "Arena Rats".  Sounds like what I
had always heard referred to as "Ring Rats".  Most of them seem to
be underage (maybe not a bad thing for "Teen Pro Wrestling",though,
huh?)  :-)  and wrestlers have to be worried about "seducing a
minor" charges (as "The Little Juicer" Barr knows).

Anyone know the truth as to whether Liz Poffo was a ring rat
and/or is related to Vince?

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer
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From: funga@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG  Alexander Yok-Wai)
Subject: Re: Disputing The "Stable Champ" Theory
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:52:26 GMT

In article <5gp+LRA@engin.umich.edu> joepet@engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow) writes:
>Someone once said that what Vince really wants is a "stable" champ who will
>dominate over the Federation.  The following is a list of all champions who
>have won (read: NOT just "successfully defended" a title by not being pinned
>or submitting) a title match on a PPV:
> 
>Demolition
>Rockin Robin
>The Ultimate Warrior
>
>This is it.  Look it up if you don't believe me.  Only three champions winning
>title matches in five years and you're telling me Vince believes in stability?
>
Hmmmm? Maybe you could clearly define your definition for "won" then? I'm not
sure I understand your method for deriving such a short list otherwise.


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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joseph Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Prime Time Funny Quote, Question
Summary: Greco-Roman moves
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:05:16 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <ku2dl0INNrvn@mizar.usc.edu>, pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:
> And his knowledge of Greco-Roman wrestling has REALLY helped him with
> his career in the WWF.
> 
> When I heard this, I ROTFL....especially since, at the time, the two
> wrestlers were duking it out.  Has anyone EVER seen Tito or anyone else
> display any Greco-Roman wrestling moves during a match?

  In Greco-Roman wrestling, you are not allowed to touch your opponents legs,
so it is all upper body throws.  Belly-to-belly suplexes, particularly the
kind Rick and Scott Steiner do (when they throw the guy over their head) and
the back suplexes the way the Steiners and Big Josh do it are examples of
Greco-Roman moves.
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From: globay@emr1.emr.ca (George Lobay)
Subject: Re: The Executioner
Organization: Dept. of Something 
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 22:57:19 GMT

In article <11230@mindlink.bc.ca>
 Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes:
>
>Just rented WM 1 for old times sake.  Good show....I know I'll get flamed for
>it, but I really liked Paul Orndorff.  He was one of my all time favourite
>wrestlers.

As a public service I'd like to say that I rented WM5 this weekend,
and it was crap.  This was the one at Trump Palace or whatever with
The Donald in the front row.  My wife says he has a mouth like
a turkey's ass.  And when you look at him, by George, she's right!

Bye. .
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: IRC weekly chat?????
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:15:09 GMT
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Organization: UB

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:

>I know that this was tried last year, but is anyone interested in a weekly
>IRC wrestling chat? We could schedule a certain time and a certain channel,
>invite only of course. Is anybody else interested?

It's done almost daily on IRC, whenever Sean and I are on IRC, we chat.

--Don

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From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Brain Teaser Trivia IV Answers
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:21:11 GMT
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In article <1992Apr4.014409.3520@acsu.buffalo.edu> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
>C065N2X2@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>   On what WWF pay per view was Big Josh in?
>Wrestlemania I. He wrestled Rick Steamboat and lost.
>--Don

	my memory doesn't go back that far,
	was he big josh back then?
		mike shames
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Who were the Ding Dongs
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:26:38 GMT
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
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Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
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In article <1992Apr16.040048.27729@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) writes...
> 
>  Fill me in here Sean.  What promotion does Jerry Blackell run?  I know that
>independent wrestling is alive and well in Georgia, but I never heard anything
>about Blackwell being connected with one.  

Did run.  He started up an indie in Georgia in late 1987.  The promotion
started out with a big bang, because Joe Pedicino worked with them early
on, and they actually had a large indie pool of talent to work with back
then (Bruiser Brody, Chris Adams, Manny Fernandez, Austin Idol, Tommy
Rich, etc.).  But reality quickly set in, and nightly crowds of ~100 
soon became the norm.  I think the promotion lasted over a year, but no, 
it's no longer in existence.

>  Actually, I always wondered what ever happened to Blackwell.  

Last I heard anything, he was near death with kidney problems.  I
haven't heard of him dying at all, so I would assume that he's past that
now.  It wouldn't surprise me to hear that he's in some state of 
perpetual ill health, though.  The one time he came to Alaska, he did 
nothing but eat the entire three days he was here.

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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan "T2" Wen)
Subject: Re: Hey there Tonto, who is that masked man?
Keywords: Why, thats Dangerous Danny Davis.
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:06:49 GMT

In article <Apr.6.13.48.06.1992.8179@pilot.njin.net> grotter@pilot.njin.net (Ephraim Rotter) writes:
>
>
>John Arrezzi stated at least FIFTEEN times durring his show last night
>that THAT WAS JIM HELLWIG.  Not Kerry Von Erich, not Del Wilkes (who
>should feud with Salughter for "biggest chin" title), not anyone but

besides Sgt. Slobber maybe Sid Vicious or Robert Davi (big ugly goof on Tango &
Cash)

Stan T2 Wen
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From: dejmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (dean joseph miller)
Subject: More Wrestlemania Comments
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:18:59 -0500

Dark Match: Bevs vs. Bushwackers.

I went to the card with a friend who foesn't like wrestling and has never seen
it live, but he thought the Bushwackers were the funniest and most entertaining
thing he saw all night.  He is also a Duke fan living in Indiana, so when the
Genius said the Bevs would continue the momentum started by Duke in his poem,
he went nuts.  From the crowd reaction, it is also apparent that the Wackers 
are still big with the crowd (everyone moving their arms like Luke and Butch)
This is wrestling's biggest mystery.

In my opinion, the biggest (positive) pops went to (in order):

1. Hogan
2. Piper
3. Hacksaw (yet another mystery to me.)
4. Undertaker
5. LOD

Biggest boos went to:

1. Jake 
2. Sid

I think the fans really didn't know who Paul Ellerling was, and his history,
or the crowd reaction to him would have been bigger.  I think the LOD jumps
to #1 interview in the WWF now that "Tell em, Paul" is back.
(Could someone transcribe this interview.  I really like it.)

I think between the Santana match and his PrimeTime match against Piper,
Micheals is slowly evolving into one of the best heels in years.  In my
mind, what always made Flair great is the way he'd get his ass kicked by
everyone, and take some great bumps and flops.  Micheals is working on
this.  Now if Vince would let him actually execute some wrestling moves,
we'd be all set.   

Owen: What a waste of talent!

We saw the Undertaker, Savage, Flair, Hart, Hogan and Justice all kick out
of finishing moves.  What's the deal?

Dean
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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Joe Pedicino & GWF
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:39:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.182841.1830@cc.gatech.edu> duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan) writes:
>Gee, Joe failed to mention this :-(.  I wonder why...
>Anyway, where did you hear this info?

The fullest description I've seen from an informed source of what
happened with the GWF is this post of Bob Hazlewood's from
CompuServe.
 
--Gary Will
 
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Date: 12-Apr-92  13:58:18 EDT
Subject: #R.I.P. GWF? 
From: 76702.454@compuserve.com (Bob Hazlewood)
 
Not quite dead yet, but the patient is very sick.... 
 
Effective last Friday, Joe Pedicino is no longer associated with the
Global Wrestling Federation.  Eddie Gilbert is no longer the booker, nor
is he doing any of the TV formatting.  He will continue to appear as a
wrestler for a short time, possibly one more week. 
 
The Dark Patriot (Doug Gilbert) is already gone, as are Bull & Samantha
Pain.  Not sure yet, but I doubt we'll see Barry Horowitz, Nightmare
Danny Davis, Lighting Kid, or Jerry Lynn any time soon, if ever.  The
only non-Dallas wrestlers that will be appearing are those that are
willing to drive in (and stay?) at their own expense. 
 
Joe will continue working on the Atlanta Wrestling Block for Ch.69 there,
and Eddie has been rumored to be heading towards Titan anyway. 
 
Finances, unfortunately, simply aren't there, and have resulted in this 
cutback.  Apparently, TV tapings WILL continue for the time being, but
I personally wonder how long that will last. 
 
As most of you know, I've been sorta working with Global (but not on
the payroll) since the beginning.  I will be attending next Friday's card,
which will be the first TV taping since the changes went into effect. 
After that, I can't say. 
 
Looking back, Global has had its ups and downs, launching last June
28th with a tremendous amount of potential and high hopes.  Now... well,
it's kinda like watching a close friend slowly die.  It was a hell of a
run while it lasted. 
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From: spr@prism.gatech.EDU (Stefan Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Gilbert --> WWF and Joe Ped out of the GWF?
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:37:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <9204131917.AA07737@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
>Gary Will writes:
>
>> duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan) writes:
>
>> >I had the good fortune to talk to Joe Pedicino 
>> >and Boni Blackstone today at a North Georgia Wrestling (NGW, formerly
>> >Georgia All Star Wrestling) card.  They were both very friendly, and
>> >they seemed happy to talk to me, though they were quite busy with everything
>> >that was going on.
>> > [...]
>> >Also, Bill Eadie (Masked Superstar, Axe, Axis, et al) is no longer
>> >working for the GWF front office.
>
>> Eadie hasn't been with the GWF for 4 months or so, but the big news
>> -- which Joe apparently didn't mention -- is that Pedicino is no longer
>> with the GWF as of last week. 
>
>Wasn't he the one that sunk all the $$$ into the GWF to get it started?
>Figures I heard (don't know how accurate or inflated they were) was around
>$1,000,000.
>
>Did Joe sell the org to someone else or will the GWF just fold?

If Joe is leaving the GWF, maybe that's why he is back full time doing the
seven hour Saturday Night Superstars show in Atlanta on Ch. 69. He was the
original host when it started (6,7,8?) years ago. Then he hired a co-host, Boni
Blackstone, whom he later married. A few months before the GWF started, Joe
left SNS, I guess to work on organizing the GWF. Now that he is back on SNS, I
guess he must be spending less time on the GWF. I hope it doesn't fold. We need
more alternatives to the WWF and WCW.

Thanks to Rick Duggan for letting us know about his talk with Joe and Boni!

When someone hears something definite on the GWF's fate, please let us know!


>                --Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer
>


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From: Jeff Benedict <raoul@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Roller Derby
Reply-To: raoul@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:49:14 GMT

larry@cbmvax.commodore.com (Larry Feldman - CATS) writes:

> I realize that this is not pertaining to Pro-wresting, but I suspect that
> if anyone would know the answer, it would be the folks here.
> 
Hell, I thought you were talking about Roller Derby- you know, Charlie 
O'Connell and Big Joanie Weston!!! Does anyone care about it???  Is there 
a newsgroup for this????

Jeff
From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Quiz #2( NWA)
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:04:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr17.010441.5793
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel) says:
>    Are you ready for this?  New Breed WERE a better team than the Midnight 
>Express.  They were like the Moondogs are now in the USWA.  They beat guys
>brutally, I mean *brutally*, and you could see by their opponents reactions that
>they were truly in pain.  Their flying manuevers were second to none, and their
>interviews were classic. They used to do imitations of other wrestlers 
>interviews that were among the true classics of interviews.  One time, they did
>the Road Warriors so well that in the following segment, Animal said during his
>own interview "I know there aren't two young snot-nosed punks coming out here
>making fun of the Road Warriors interviews, cuz if there was we'd come out here
>and kick their teeth down their stinkin' throats!" Remember, the Road Warriors
>eren't even involved in an angle with New Breed at the time.  I think Animal
>was so surprised that New Breed imitated LOD so well, that he just tossed the 
>comment in.
>                                                           -Eflow
While the New Breed did do some nice high-flying moves, they were never
as good as the Stan Lane Midnight Express, although they MIGHT have been
as good as the Dennis Condrey express. I don't know though, if that wasn't
the stupidest gimmick ever outside of the Gobdelygooker [they were from the
year 2002, right?]....
Bill
-- 
You should, have made it a point, to get BOTH of them Daddy! If Sting has
to carry me, on his back down that aisle, if he has to DRAG me in a wagon,
I'm breathing, ya understand? YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT IT DONE! It's violence for
the sake of violence & now I will turn it around to MY violence! ==Dusty Rhodes
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Brain Teaser Trivia IV Answers
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:11:20 GMT
Organization: UB

Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor) writes:

>In article <1992Apr4.014409.3520@acsu.buffalo.edu> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
>>C065N2X2@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>>   On what WWF pay per view was Big Josh in?
>>Wrestlemania I. He wrestled Rick Steamboat and lost.
>>--Don
>	was he big josh back then?

No. He only became a Hacksaw Duggan wanna-be in WCW. Yet another one of
Jim Herd's brilliant (not) ideas.

--Don


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From: 11mwarner@galluj
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8 and Tito the Matador
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:39:39 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

In article <4063@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, 6500poln@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Harry M. Dolny) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.072841.25613@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mnka_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Kaufman) writes:
> 
>>In <visser.702609206@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
> 
> 
>>>	When was the last time that Tito/Matador won a match at a
>>>	wrestlemania?  I know he has been at them all, but I dont
>>>	remember him doing all that well in any of the matches.
> 
> 
> 
>>Wrestlemaina I against the Executioner, (Danny Davis) other than that he is
>>1 for 8.
> 
>>Wrestlemania 1 win vs Executioner
>>Wrestlemania 2 loss in Tag Team with JFD vs. Terry and Dory Funk
>>Wrestlemania 3 loss in 6 man tag with Britishbulldogs vs Hart Foundation&Davis
>>Wrestlemania 4 Lost World Tag Titles as Strike Force to Demolition
>>Wrestlemania 5 loss to Rick Martel (I think)
>>Wrestlemania 6 loss to Barbarian (I think)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Wrestlemania 7 loss to Da Mountie
>>Wrestlemania 8 loss to Shawn Michaels
> All of them are correct, except for 5. He and Martel tagged
> against Anderson and Blanchard. Martel turned on him by leaving
> the ring allowing him to be double-teamed and pinned by
> the Brain Busters.
> 
> Mike


If memory serves I think he lost to Warlord there.

						PSYCHO
From: df2%tdat@UUNET.UU.NET (Dave Fields)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Jerry Sags Makes The Star
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:35:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdat.9204061835.AA05763

From the April 14, 1992 issue of The Star:

"Keanu Reeves took his life in his hands when he flirted with the wrong
girl at Roxbury. Jerry Sags of the Nasty Boys wrestling tag-team duo
had already staked a claim on a particularly pretty young thing by
buying her a drink when Keanu nonchalantly moved in. Jerry--noted for
Mohawk and missing teeth--slammed Keanu against the wall, roughed him
up and got him in a headlock. Keanu escaped with a bloody nose--but
head intact-after elbowing Jerry in the stomach. Finally, the bartender
asked the nasty boy with the bulging biceps to hit the road, and Keanu
ended up with the girl."

All copyrights reserved by The Star Division of Enquirer/Star, Inc.
Reprinted without permission.


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From: clay@mordred.cs.utk.edu (Clay Breshears)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Marks buy this?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:00:41 GMT
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In article <tbpj1gf.mats@netcom.com>, mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) writes:
|> There are many things about the Whiff which ought the strain the
|> credulity of even the densest mark.  But run-ins accompanied by the
|> proper theme music (UW)?  Isn't that just one step too far?

What?!?  You don't believe that the Ultimate Warrior just happened to be 
slumming backstage at WMVIII in his full regalia?  You don't believe that he 
was also clutching a tape of his theme music (perhaps to give to Hulk Hogan as 
a going away present)?  You don't believe that as soon as UW saw Papa Shango 
run out to the ring area he vaulted up to the Hoosierdome control booth, 
forced them to start playing his tape, ran back down to the floor, and was 
just in time to make the save of Hogan?  You don't believe all that??

Nah, me neither. :-{

						clay
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Clay P. Breshears       | Her hair matted with greasepaint and her magnificent
University of Tennessee | torso protruding from a negligee of green nylon, she
E-mail: clay@cs.utk.edu | maundered through the apartment house next to her own
Phone: (615) 974-3848   | thrusting her key into each astounded door.

P.S. Of course we all know that John Price's Ultimate Android could have done 
     all that, no sweat.  :-)
From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: GWF Update 4/6
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:55:29 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/207.1 - Sunnyvale Fido Conn, Sunnyvale CA


Dominic Macika writes about "Re: GWF Update 4/6" to All  [07 Apr 92 05:37]

>>Nightmare Danny Davis is the GWF Light Hvwt. Champion ( I think that's
>>what it's called.)
>       
>       any relation to the dangerous danny davis who was the ref @ wm8
>       8 man tag?
>
>       does VMcM let his refs wrestle elsewhere ?
>       does he care ????
>               
>               mike shames
>
DM>  I know that they're not the same person, although I'm not sure 
DM> if they're related or not. 

Different people.
 
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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: WrestleMania VIII
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 07:17:58 GMT


In a previous article, foleye@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Stilt Man) says:

>Other possibilities:  Vince could be using this as an opportunity to beef up
>the house shows, and will have Flair win the strap back at one of the first
>few shows and announce it on TV, thus perhaps boosting attendance at them.
>He's had the tag straps change hands (and even forgot to censor the Natural
>Disasters' interference report from the WWF Magazine) and the I-C strap all
>switch at a house show in the last few months.  Quite possibly, he's going to
>have a clean sweep of them and have Flair take it back from Savage at one.

Giving a heel the strap would seem to make sense for Vince right now.  After
all that would leave quite a few faces to go after the belt:
UW, Savage, Undertaker, Hart, HOgan (maybe), etc...

Savage keeping the belt would give:
Flair, Justice & ?

A heel champ gives more posibilities BUT

as someone mentioned before, WWF two time champs are few and far between.
Sammartino, Hogan, and now Savage.  Is Vince willing to put a heel, especially
one whose days are dwindling and whose major work was with WCW, into that
group?  I doubt it.  I'm more willing to believe Justice beating Savage,
and probably not til Summerslam.  Although I must say, being, as Mr. Stromer
would put it, a "Flairy", I would love to see this happen, and SOON!

-- 
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