HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava)
Subject: Re: Unixpc source code access
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:27:59 GMT

> In article <1992Aug18.223049.761@cbnewsc.cb.att.com|  cmv@looney.att.com
>(Craig M. Votava) writes:
>
> In any case, I'm still tied up with USL lawyers on the status of the source
> code. As soon as I get something concrete from them, I will post the result.
>

>In article <1992Aug19.073553.23325@morwyn.uucp>, forrie@morwyn.uucp
>(Forrie Aldrich) writes:
> 
> Could you please elaborate on what the 'problem' is?  I realize part of
> this to be very _typical_ of AT&T, but surely they cannot see this older
> technology to be a risk factor in the market.  And given the fact that
> it's not like they're releasing it into the public domain, but through
> signed non-disclosure contracts.  They're free to keep an eye on us,
> and nothing will prevent them from sueing someone if they screw up... ;)

Yes, that's the idea, and I think it will sell once we get around to addressing
that problem, but we haven't even got there yet... (see below).

> You indicated in an earlier post that no one really had the authority to
> say anything, which was bugging the lawyer you're in contact with.  If 
> no one has the authority to say anything, then how on earth will this
> ever be resolved?  Fire the lawyer?

The first problem that has to get solved is who has the authority over this
code. Is it AT&T? They didn't say one way or the other, they just referred me
to USL. Is it USL? Well, we're not sure here... I've told USL that I have the
code. The first thing to get in writing is the fact that it's ok for me to
have it. So far the lawyer I'm dealing with has not found anybody in USL that
will even verify this. Once that is done, we ask the next question "Can I
work on it with other AT&T Employees?" and from there we go to the "How about
everyone in the Club who has signed a non-disclosure agreement?".

I'll keep the net posted.

-Craig



	()_()	Craig Votava
	 (_)	AT&T Bell Labs
		cmv@looney.att.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:3162 dc.forsale:2027
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,dc.forsale
Subject: Re: Yet another 3b1 for sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:02:40 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Aug19.192832.25459@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
>	Hey kids!
>
>This is (hopefully) the last 3b1 that I never need sell, since
>I'm inteding to leave my wifes machine to my son when he's old enough
>to use it (it'll be a while, he's only 10mos.) Anywho:
>
>	3b1

	[ ... ]

>	(extra) 3.5" 800Mb floppy, if you prefer that.
                     ^^^^^
	[ ... ]

>	$300, U ship.

	This is well worth it for just that 800 Mb floppy.  How did you do
it, and how much to floppies to fit cost. :-)

	Sorry, I couldn't resist
		DoN.
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From: ksc@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.s.cobler)
Subject: Re: Transparent communications thru parallel port/HP LJIIP+
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:40:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.142629.8120@bwdls61.bnr.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:

Question about /dev/lp printing automatic LF, etc.

>
><sys/lprio.h> is rather suggestive that there's ways of
>controlling this behaviour via ioctls, but I have no
>documentation, and I can't figure out some of the operations.
>Eg: LP[GS]ET versus LP[GS]ETV or what the "ind" field is for.

Examine the FAQ for 3b1.  The device driver for /dev/lp performs
as you've described.  Another part of the driver (for raw printer
usage) is installed on your system as /dev/rawlp.  You can send files
directly to /dev/rawlp or using lpadmin, create a device type
to use the lp command (example: lp -drawprint my-file).

Kenneth Cobler		ksc@cbnewsk.att.com or ken@ihlpm.att.com
AT&T Bell Laboratories	attmail!cbnewsk!ksc or attmail!ihlpm!ken
2000 N. Naperville Rd.
Naperville, IL  60566
Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:3176 misc.forsale.computers:30612
From: joel@crpi.UUCP (Joel C. Justen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Yet Another AT&T Unix PC 7300 for sale
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:47:40 EST
FollowUp-To: comp.sys.3b1
Organization: Crazyrat Software Productions
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2


I fear that I must try to sell my Unix PC in an attempt to purchase a 
greatly needed tape drive.  It is a 7300 with a 20 mb hard disk, 1 mb of
memory, 3.51 on hard disk (and backed up to floppy), some manuals, an 
internal 1200 baud modem and quite a few 5.25" floppies.  I'd, of course,
like to get as much money as I can out of this, but I will take the best
offer.  My initial offer is $250.

Joel
-Please respond to this post or call 502-636-5024.


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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: comp.sys.3b1, fading away?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 06:27:28 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In the last response, I wrote:

"For those in Silicon Valley, the last home for the Users' Group is teaming"
                                       ^^^^
s/b "hope"

So much for correcting typos at 6:20am after pulling yet another all-nighter
(yeah, I'm just now going to attempt to catch 40 winks).

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: collect for gcc/g++ 2.2.2
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:30:44 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology

I've merged the functionality of shld into collect2 version 2.2.2.
When installed as /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/3b1/2.2.2/ld it will handle
the global constructors and destructors for g++, as well as only
use the shared library to resolve otherwise unknown symbols (just
as shld does for "gcc -shlib" alone, and shcc does as a replacement
for cc).

The file can be picked up as collect.shar.Z in the directory
pub/3b1 on ftp.cs.caltech.edu.  It contains the unlinked objects
for collect2.  If you prefer to compile collect2 yourself, diffs
for the sources are included.  It will create an additional
C source file that contains the information in /lib/shlib.ifile
(which is included when making collect) as well as a library
libminic.a that contains the routines from libc.a that are not
contained in the shared library.  This information varies depending
on the version of the OS, so I haven't included a binary.

Over the next week or two I'll look at compiling groff 1.5 with
g++ 2.2.2 (actually cross compile, but I needed collect2 working
since linking must be done on the 3b1).

cc1plus isn't in the gcc2 binary distribution.  You can pick up
the tar file pub/3b1/gcc2-objects/cc1plus.tar.Z, extract all the
.o files, and link them together to get cc1plus.  I've haven't
been able to link cc1plus with the shared library (shld and 
collect2 both dump core -- I'm don't know why), but there's no
problem if you don't use the shared library.
	gcc -o cc1plus *.o

Andy Fyfe					andy@cs.caltech.edu
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Copying Dist. Disks
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:05:34 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <Bsu64E.9JI@acsu.buffalo.edu> stein-c@acsu.buffalo.edu (Craig Steinberger) writes:
>Is it possible to make copies of the distribution disks, diagnostics
>disk, etc. for backup purposes? Is so, can someone tell me how?

	It can be done, even with the limited tools available from the
floppy disk section of the ua interface.  However, you need to know that
there are two different styles of floppy mixed together in the foundation
set, and in the development set.  There is one version formatted with 8
sectors/track, and another with 10 sectors/track.  There are two different
format options to do these.  Be preapred to spend some time at the job.

	Now, go to the unix command line, take each disk, place it in the
drive, and type "iv -t /dev/rfp020", to get information on how many
sectors/track (among other things) the floppy was formatted with.  You
probably should have a stack of small post-its, and mark each one with the
sectors/track *BEFORE* sticking it on the floppy.  When this is done, go
through and count how many of each size you have.  Now, make sure that there
are a few spares over the required count pre-formatted with the right
selection, just in case.

	When these are ready, using the floppy menu selections, select the
one which offers floppy disk copy.  (Stay away from the MSDOS selections
during all of this.)  The menus will guide you through the process.

	Good Luck
		DoN.
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From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,unix-pc.general
Subject: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:56:06 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Aug17.123409.4503@rtsg.mot.com> renkel@rtsg.mot.com (Will Renkel) writes:
>Quick question...
>Is the unix-pc (3b1, 7300) internal modem capable of hardware flow control?
>If so, how do you enable it?
>Thanks in advance.

	As far as I know, no modem in that speed range (1200 BPS) is capable
of hardware flow control, because it is just sending data bits down the
line, and doesn't do any packetizing to allow encoding extra information
like stop/start information.

	At that speed, why do you even *need* it?

	DoN.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sys.att
From: dke@epx.cis.umn.edu ()
Subject: NEW* 3b1s
Summary: brand spanking new!
Keywords: NEW 2meg 20hd
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:12:31 GMT

due to the very encourageing responce of the used 3b1s a
friend of mine got, he decidded to get some more and now
hes is sitting on a bunch of NEW 3b1s!
they have 20 meg drives and 2 meg motherboards
hes asking $550 + shipping for them but
if i get a big responce I'll see if i can buy a bunch
for $475 and send them out...


dave
-- 
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:3179 comp.sys.att:2066
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:53:57 EDT
From: <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Help needed!

In article <1992Aug20.163415.27219@cs.UAlberta.CA>, adam@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michel
Adam) says:
>
>     I am trying to set up a PC6300 (aka XEROX 6060 / Olivetti M??) to
>use it with STARLAN to access a 3B1 and/or use IN/ix with it, and I need
>to know what the functions of the two banks of DIP switches under the
>machine (on the motherboard) are. The system I have has 640Kb on the
>motherboard, and a weird video adapter that looks like some kind of
>monochrome CGA, but the main problem is that I can't get it to boot
>from a hard disk at this time. There are no jumpers or DIP switches
>on the old IBM disk controller card, and the only configurable things
>I can see are the switches underneath the machine.
>
>    What do they do?
>
In my handy (original!) AT&T PC6300 manual, the following system board
dip switches are described (DIPSW-0 is closer to the center of the board
in the picture, and DIPSW-1 is closer to the edge)
DIPSW-0
1-3    System memory
4      DRAMS on Motherboard
5      8087 Coprocessor
6      Com port 8250
7      Not used
8      ROM
-
DIPSW-1
1     Floppy 96 or 48 TPI
2     Floppy startup speed
3-4   Hard disk type
5-6   Display type
7-8   Number of Floppies
------
The
3 switch on DIPSW-1 should be OFF for "Uses external hard disk code"
and ON for "Uses internal hard disk code".  ON is the default.  Switch 4
seems to be reserved for future use.  If you have any other specific
questions on switches settings, e-mail them and I'll try to decipher the
manual.  There is also a little program that shows the current settings
on your 6300 and what they do.  I think the AT&T BBS might still be up
(it was a year ago) at 201-769-6397 to get some handy little utilities
(like programs to fix the stupid clock!)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,dc.forsale
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Yet another 3b1 for sale
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:28:32 GMT

	Hey kids!

This is (hopefully) the last 3b1 that I never need sell, since
I'm inteding to leave my wifes machine to my son when he's old enough
to use it (it'll be a while, he's only 10mos.) Anywho:

	3b1
	1Mb memory
	40Mb CDC disk
	5.25 floppy.
	(extra) 3.5" 800Mb floppy, if you prefer that.
	All the usual stuff (kbd, mouse, screen, serial, parallel, modem, etc).
	3.51 w/ delevopment set.
	$300, U ship.
	
The machine is clean, and works fine. I've got a official 3b1 box and 
packing material, The only thing that I *don't* have is an extra set of 
distribution disks and manuals, sorry.  I do have a set of xenix development
manuals (system calls & subroutines) that should be helpful, and some
misc. duplicalte manuals that I'll trow in.

Anywho, first come first serve, and the price is low enough that I
probably won't except low offers. Send email, or call me:

	[410]455-3985 days
	[410]435-7899 evenings

The machine is in Baltimore, MD.

-- 
Anybody who agrees with me deserves what they get.

                                        Alex Crain
                                        UMBC Academic Computing Services
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: DRUN patch didn't - con't
Organization: CSU
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:26:50 GMT

    Greetings again,
 
    I did use a 1% resistor - it just happens to be 4.7K rather
than 4.75K.  (Opps should've put the "K" in there before :~))
I will be tryings Thad's idea of removing the capacitor and will
see if that helps.
 
   Thanks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Subject: Re: ghostscript revisited
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:33:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.203120.1643@cco.caltech.edu> I wrote:
>I've made a simple driver for ghostscript for the 3b1 console.

And now I've made another one.  Actually, it's not very different.
The former created a separate window for the page image.  The new
one simply uses the existing window (thus gs behaviour is along the
lines of gnuplot).

I left the old tar file alone, and created a new directory
pub/3b1/gs on ftp.cs.caltech.edu.

In that directory is the gs binary (gs.Z), the source for the
driver (gdev3b1.c), a tar file containing the files in my
/usr/local/lib/ghostscript directory (it does not contain *any*
fonts (save "ugly", the default)), and a README file.

For "simple" files ("groff -Tps" output, for example), gs is
actually quite usable.  The first page is slow, presumably while
gs rasterizes the fonts.  After that, it's not too bad.

For the 3b1 screen, you'll probably prefer to use the -dNOPAUSE
option to gs.

Opinions, etc., are welcome.

Andy Fyfe					andy@cs.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Comms programs
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:55:44 PDT

I've tried pcomm and xcomm, and had no real luck with either of them.
A couple of months back I ported Minicom, by Miquel Van Smoorenberg
to the 3b1 and it works fine - the port was actually trivial, mostly
lint complaining.  Minicom has been posted to comp.os.minix and
comp.os.linux.  I plan to beat up on the current version a little,
and then pass it to whoever is moderating the source group.  Probably
a couple of weeks.

Will
cwr@pnet01.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: For sale/Starlan cards
Organization: UMBC 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:23:02 GMT

	I have two starlen cards, software and documentation. One works,
one doesn't. Since I only have one machine, I don't need them anymore.

	Best offer.

-- 
Anybody who agrees with me deserves what they get.

                                        Alex Crain
                                        UMBC Academic Computing Services
From: hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Looking for Elm
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:00:11 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Originator: hruska@brtph380

I'm looking for Elm for my 3b1.  Is it possible to get a binary
of this, or are there site specific defines that must be built
in?  It is hell not having a development set!!!

On another note, what are some sites that have 3b1/7300 files
available (other than the store archives and OSU files)?
I looked on uunet but it seemed pretty much like a mirror
of OSU.

Thanks!

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From: richmond@flipper (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Manual Set for 7300 For Sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:38:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Astro Dept. U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: flipper.berkeley.edu

It's moving time, so I want to sell my manuals rather than bring
them cross-country.  I've got what I THINK is the complete set,
and I'm selling it all (except for the diskettes).  Here's
a list of what you can get:

   Communications Managemant (User's Guide)
   Communications Management
   Owner's Manual
   Getting Started
   C Binding Programmer's Guide
   Owner's Manual
   UNIX System V User's Manual
   UNIX System V Programmer's Guide

It's an all or nothing deal - Sydney or the bush.  If you're
interested, send me E-mail within one week with an offer.
Remember that I have to pay postage, probably about $10 or so, to 
mail them to you.  Make me an offer!

                     Michael



-- 
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"Haven't you got better things to do        Michael Richmond
 with your time than grope a cat?"          richmond@bkyast.berkeley.edu
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: HD in a PC7300
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:40:28 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Aug18.213615.1442@umbc3.umbc.edu> grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST)) writes:
>	Is it possible to hook up 2 HD in a PC7300 case?
>(Like 2 miniscribes??)
>Thanks.

	Well, it is possible to *connect* two drives to a suitably modified
7300 or 3b1, if at least one of the drives is externally powered.  The
modifications also allow the possibility of up to 16 heads instead of the
stock maximum of eight heads.  Another (very simple, once you find the chip)
modification is to replace the WD1010 hard disk controller chip with the
WD2010.  (The problem is that this chip is no longer made, so you need to
either find a substitute (one of the Intel chips will do), or find an old
PC/XT or AT class controller card which has the chip, and remove it.  It
will have to be desoldered in most cases, but this can be done by a cafeful
workman with good tools.  If you can't do this, you probably shouldn't be
attempting the other mods to allow two hard drives.  The drives can be up to
a maximim size of somewhere short of 160MB each.  (This is with the Maxtor
XT2190 or the Priam/Ahasi519.)

	The two drive mod kit is sold by Gil Klopfer as the ICUS-2 kit, and
includes a PAL which reduces the number of chips which have to be mounted
on the main board, allowing it to be done with no external board (in
contrast to the original ICUS kit).

	You also *may* need to install the DRUN patch.  This should be
detailed in a file in the osu-cis archives.  The ICUS kit amy be mentioned
in the latest version of the FAQ list for this newsgroup.

	Good Luck
		DoN.
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From: aholler@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Anne Holler)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:13:12 GMT
Subject: UNIXPC For Sale
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1

I am selling a Model 7300 Unixpc.

My 7300 has been modified to have a bump-style (3B1) case and
a higher capacity (3B1) power supply.

The system has 0.5M on the motherboard and 2 512K memory cards,
for a total of 1.5M RAM.

Its disk drive is a 45M(?) Miniscribe 6053.

The system includes the following software:
  3.5  OS/Manuals
  3.51 Utilities/Manuals
  Backups for 3.51 OS & Utilities
  Microsoft Word

I will pay shipping; terms are prepayment or COD and we split the COD cost.
I'm located in the Silicon Valley area, so if you're nearby, maybe shipping
won't be necessary.

$275, or best offer.

Anne Holler
aholler@cup.hp.com
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From: adam@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michel Adam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sys.att
Subject: Help needed!
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:34:15 GMT
Organization: Pantoute!


   Cross-posted to comp.sys.3b1 cuz I know the users are out there ...


     I am trying to set up a PC6300 (aka XEROX 6060 / Olivetti M??) to
use it with STARLAN to access a 3B1 and/or use IN/ix with it, and I need
to know what the functions of the two banks of DIP switches under the 
machine (on the motherboard) are. The system I have has 640Kb on the
motherboard, and a weird video adapter that looks like some kind of
monochrome CGA, but the main problem is that I can't get it to boot
from a hard disk at this time. There are no jumpers or DIP switches
on the old IBM disk controller card, and the only configurable things
I can see are the switches underneath the machine.

    What do they do?


    Thanks


Michel Adam
adam@cs.ualberta.ca