HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kiraly@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gaspar Kiraly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Ami pro 2.0 and lotus 123 for os/2???
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:03:10 GMT
Organization: UB


Hi, about two months ago I upgraded AMI PRO and 123 for Windows.
Can I upgrade to OS/2 of these programs from Windows? 

If you have any information please let me know.

                                Gaspar

PS: How come IBM is not advertising os/2 on tv like MS does????????

                                kiraly@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: I WANT MY UPGRADE NOWpwd!
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:02:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.202410.5917@engage.pko.dec.com> ingram@hotair.enet.dec.com (Larry J. Ingram) writes:
>	I'm curious as to what this massive retail channel is that IBM is
>	filling. Egghead doesn't have it, CompUSA doesn't have it, CompuAdd
>	doesn't have it, nor does Software etc., Babbages, Bizmart, Sears (we
>	don't have a business center in Albuquerque), or any of the other
>	local software stores. Everyone I've called has told me they won't
>	be carrying it, not that it just hasn't come in yet.
>
>	All indications are, OS/2 is available from IBM only. What is this
>	black hole that they are calling a "retail channel"?
>

Hey, the retail channels should be directed to Exxon, CitiCorp, etc. You
poor little guy, gotta wait.



Wen-Chun
Organization: European Academic Research Network
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 14:42:39 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: List of OS/2 2.0 GA bugs?
Distribution: comp
 <1992Apr14.120506.9852@actrix.gen.nz> <1992Apr16.023355.13063@sbcs.sunysb.edu>


I hear things about 360K diskettes. Is it true? Is there a list of
bugs in GA (6.307)  somewhere?    -turgut
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell)
Subject: Word of CAUTION......
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:26:55 MDT

I just got the urge last night to print out the help files....and really only
wanted a subset of the whole thing!  Word of caution....that file **is** 
2.5 MG in size and will take > 3 hours to print on an 8ppm laser printer...
so, if you dont have the time, or 3+ reams of paper (> 1500 pages), or 
whatever....be patient, your books will arrive shortly...and then you wont
have to experience what I did....BTW, they *are* helpful in printed form...

-Bob-

---
    -Bob Angell-         |    (sigs, the "ugly american" syndrome)
   "Had Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter shared that Ham Sandwich,
    they would both be with us today!" - Anonymous<Joan Rivers?>
       bangell@cs.utah.edu;bangell@cc.utah.edu;v-(801)583-8544
   [Standard Disclaimer: Speaking for the University of Utah, NOT!]





Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: altman@sbpmt.cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman)
Subject: Re: Requestor --> $200!!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:58:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.233508.7687@slate.mines.colorado.edu> cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall) writes:
>The latest I heard is that the requestor for OS/2 will be available
>April 30 and will cost $200.  It is a seperate package from OS/2 2.0.
>What?
>Is IBM kidding?  Don't they think it is going to be hard enough to get
>millions of DOS users to switch os's and $50 to $200 bucks a shot?  And
>then they have to pay an extra $200 to connect to there network!  Novell
>is holding 70 to 80 percent of the networked market.  The requestor 
>should definitely be included if IBM wants OS/2 to fly in the corporations.
>

Netware Requestor for OS/2 2.0 is a Novell product.  It will be remarketed
by IBM in a Blue Box.  It is an enhancement for Novell Netware just as the
1.x version was.

In addition, the $200 cost is per organization not per machine or even per
server.  Therefore, if you have 17 servers with 3000 clients or 1 server 
with 5 clients the cost is just $200.

As posted above, it will be available April 30.

Now the next question is which is a better TCP/IP, the Lan Workplace for OS/2
or IBM's TCP/IP package.

Any opinions?





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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Subject: Re: Big problems with OS/2 2.0 GA
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:22:46 GMT

Jason Merrill writes:

> It always bothered me after moving from DESQview to Windows 3.0 that
> Windows multitasked communications apps so poorly.  I am a big fan of the
> Kermit terminal emulation program put out by Columbia University, and was
> disappointed that I had to drop down to 9600 baud to avoid losing
> characters.
> 
> I expected this problem to go away when I moved to OS/2 2.0. Boy, was I
> wrong.  Not only do I continue to lose characters, but I even lose
> characters when communicating as slowly as 4800 baud!  I really don't want
> to work at 2400 baud when my connection supports 19200.

Check your flow control.  If your connection supports hardware flow
control, use it.  I run my serial port at 38400 and do not experience
any loss of characters.  I've run file transfers at 57600 and not had
any bad packets.  OS/2 is not the limiting factor here, it seems to me.
(But if I turn off flow control, I can lose all kinds of characters.)
From: pebly@VNET.IBM.COM (Bob Pebly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: swap disks for os/2
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:38:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204091136.AA14608
Reply-To: pebly@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Industrial Sector Division, Boca Raton, FL

In <1169.29e2fe44@mbcl.rutgers.edu> goldman@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:
>..stuff deleted..
>
>Actually, I was planning on creating a swap volume when I go to os/2 2.0.
>My disk tends to be full & I want to make sure that the swap space is
>contiguous.  Anybody got any comments on the advisability of this?
>
>        Adrian

If you are installing on a empty system or don't mind re-partitioning,
a separate partition for the swap file is a good idea.  Since it is a
dedicated partition, other files don't eat up up your swap space and
fragmentation isn't a problem.  Also, putting the swap partition on
your fastest drive optimizes performance a bit more.

Bob Pebly

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's view, not those of IBM.
From: peterp@unipalm.co.uk (Peter Piggott)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GA problems
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:19:18 GMT
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK

I received my copy of 2.0 a couple of days ago.

Installation went through OK eventually (my fault not OS/2's)

My PC is a Solidisk (UK clone)
It has 8Mb RAm
2*40Mb Seagate st157a drives (HPFS)
Prodesigner II with 1Mb on board
The processor is a 386Dx-25 with AMI Bios.

The desktop comes up OK. I can open OS/2 full screen and
window and also DOS windows.

I can't however open a DOS full screen or WIN-OS2 from the
Icon.

I get a SYS3176: A progran in this session encountered a
problem and cannot continue error message.
This error is for DOS full screen or WIN-OS2 full screen.
I can fire off WIN-OS2 from within a DOS window without
too much problem.

After hitting 'end program/command/operation' the whole
desktop has been distorted and requires a reboot to get
it back OK.

Anbody got any ideas? Sounds like video problems.

Oh yeah, I used VGA in the setup and clicked on every
feature to install (apart from CD-rom).

One other question:
In 1.3 I had the option to install a Mouse systems mouse.
Which I did and had no problems.

In 2.0 this option is not included. Should I just use
the same device types as in 1.3? I.e PCMOU$ etc.

Any help much appreciated.

Every thing also is great!

PeterP

(peterp@unipalm.co.uk)
Usual disclaimers!
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:11163 comp.windows.ms:12172
From: schovill@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win3 --> OS/2 2.0 upgrade for $49!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:33:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Apr07.220513.4006@stiatl.salestech.com> iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado) writes:
>So what exactly is the magical phone number to IBM that will allow us to
>participate in this wonderful deal also?
>
>Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>Ian
>


Dial 1-800-3-IBM-OS2, the opperators will be glad to assist.

Be sure to have your credit card handy.

Eric
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: HPFS question...
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 06:51:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

David, tell me one thing that cannot be done without EA's.  They are just
a bump on an otherwise clean architecture.  *ix does just fine without
them.  Information *about* a file should be *in* a file.  Or it should
be in a related file.  The file is the system defined unit of information.
Being squireled away in this hiding place is plain architectural nonsense. 
In my humble opinion of course.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: jasonc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Campbell)
Subject: Re: Tastes gross/more fattening
X-Not-Crossposted-To: comp.windows.ms
Summary: Pseudo-math strikes again!
Keywords: (new hex encoded ASCII) 4F 53 2F 32
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:37:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.051700.10839@midway.uchicago.edu> chi9@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>	I have seen an awful lot of argument on here (somewhat more on the
>windows newsgroup) about whether or not Windows is an operating system, but

   [ much clever and well-reasoned numerology deleted...:-( ]

>OS/2 1.1, OS/2 1.2, OS/2 1.3, and OS/2 2.0 respectively.  OS/2 2.0, finally,
>is one whole operating system, as has been confirmed by experimental
>observation.
Ok, so OS/2 1.3 is 0.64945 an OS, and 2.0 is 1.0 an OS.  Good so far.

>IBM, on the other hand, was until recently marketing 0.401 of an operating
But now there's DOS 5...... 0.5 an OS.


>times the operating system that OS/2 2.0 is.  Since we expect the addition of
>Windows 3.1 to comprise most of this difference, we can call this the

I see an error creeping in here.....lets follow a different line of reasoning:

  OS/2 1.3   0.65
  DOS 5      0.5
+ Windows    Y    <not X, certainly!>
--------------------
= OS/2       1.15 + Y

but OS/2 2.0 was already found to be 1.0 OS, so:

  1.0 = 1.15 + Y
    Y = -0.15

And the answer is.....Windows is actually a negative OS!  

>	So there you have it, folks:  that's the way the world is.
>|   Lucius Chiaraviglio    |    Internet:  chi9@midway.uchicago.edu

Of course, I didn't take into account 32 bit features....so maybe -0.15 is
on the high side!

Have a great day!  I am, now that I'm running GA 2.0!  

Jason.
-- 
Jason Campbell | not talking for SU | "OS/2...saving the world thru software!"
1->  jasonc@leland.Stanford.EDU |2->  Prodigy: KSJB81e |3->  (415)497-3937
"Let us not go gently into the endless winter night..." -- Rush
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA support in OS/2 2.0 = ???
Keywords: SVGA
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:53:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cancun.rdippold.702593607
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

itreleav@fraser.sfu.ca (Ian Anthony Treleaven) writes:
>Also, to anyone that has the OS/2 2.0 GA, is the HP Deskjet finally
>supported?  Maybe I will finally be able to print from a PM application!
>I know you could use the Epson mode if you bought the cartridge.

Not that I could see.  The only Deskjet support seems to be epson
emulation again.
-- 
A mind is a terrible thing to taste
From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: preemptive multi-tasking
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:54:52 GMT
	<17524.29edc4dc@ecs.umass.edu>
Organization: Freshman, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>   True.  But efficiency is not always the primary concern.  So far in this
>discussion, everyone has failed to mention what I see as one of the
>key points of preemptive vs. cooperative multitasking.  That is: that
>sometimes the cooperative tasks fail to cooperate!

further, cooperative multitasking programs should run slightly slower,
because they actually have to tell the os to switch tasks
and
writing software for a cooperative multitasking system is a pain
because you have to go and figure out where to give up time, while for
a preemptive multitasking system, you can just go and write the
straight code as if there is nothing else to worry about, and let the
os worry about it
From: gt8080a@prism.gatech.EDU (Henry 'Hank' Harlan Roark III)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: What's going on with OS/2 v.2.0 at COMDEX?
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:10:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Could someone that is lucky enough to be attending COMDEX, tell rest of us
what's going on with OS/2 v.2.0.

I really hate reading about COMDEX three plus months after it happens in
magazines.

Thanx.


-- 
Henry "Hank" Harlan Roark III | UNIX--An OS for those that don't have to pay.
Georgia Tech                  | OS/2--An OS for those that do have to pay.
gt8080a@prism.gatech.edu      | DOS --An OS for those that don't care.
My views only, not GT's       | Windows--An OS, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: gt1610c@prism.gatech.EDU (MCGAUGH,MICHAEL KENNETH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is this really Seamless?
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:16:40 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <10APR199217465997@oregon.uoregon.edu> tsavola@oregon.uoregon.edu (Tom Savola) writes:
>FYI, you can change the colors of a seamless Windows application by changing
>the colors of the full screen Windows session -- I have my PM desktop and my
>Win-OS/2 desktop set to the same color scheme, so even my windowed Win 3 apps
>look consistent.

Can someone tell me how to change the border width of seamless windows?
I changed them in the full-screen Program Manager session, but they don't 
affect the seamless ones like changing color does.

Ken.
-- 
M. Ken McGaugh
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1610c
Internet: gt1610c@prism.gatech.edu
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Os/2 Languages
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:52:04 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes:

>fer9483@tesla.njit.edu writes:

>> I am another new convert to OS/2 from Windows and I have a question.  What
>> languages are currenty available for OS/2?  I know Borland is planning
>> to release an OS/2 version of C++, but what can I write stuff with NOW?

>NOW?  At the very least, both C and FORTRAN, perhaps others.  WATCOM is
>ready with compilers for both, and IBM's SDK has their own C compiler.
>You can also write in REXX, given that it comes with the system.

IBM also supplies a product named SYSTEM OBJECT MANAGER with their
development toolkit. This package permits object-oriented programming
in IBM C SET/2. Don't ask me to explain how; I'm still trying to
figure it out myself.

-- 
David Feustel N9MYI, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805. (219)482-9631
George Bush believes in the "carrot and stick" approach to social problems:
       - give carrots to the rich and stick it to the poor -
From: dmatiske@foster.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: C Set/2
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:35:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr15.213520.9912
Reply-To: dmatiske@foster.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame


	If someone has the IBM part number for this compiler could you please mail it to me. It would really help me get it ordered. thanks.
From: becap@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian CAPSON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Idiots at the Magazines
Date: 4 Apr 92 21:29:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr4.212909.16008
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Apr3.181048.13119@tc.cornell.edu> sanjeev@cheme.tn.cornell.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr1.164624.24433@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>>>In article <1992Mar24.064855.14541@athena.mit.edu> reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal) writes:
>>>>I have lost all respect for John Dvorak, John Dickinson, and Jim
>>>>Seymour.
>>>
>>>How about this one:  In the May issue of PC Mag, John Dvorak writes a
>>>list of reasons why "OS/2 has failed".  Past tense.  Amazing how he
>>>considers a program to have failed before the release date.
>>>Especially when you consider that articles for the May issue were
>>>probably written sometime in February.  And then he does nothing more
>>>than re-hash the same thing he wrote two years ago about OS/2 1.2...
>>>-- 
>>>David Charlap                   Q:"Where do these stairs go?"
>>>dic5340@hertz.njit.edu          A:"They go up"
>>>----------------------------
>>
>
>Here is something I have wondered about. How many of these "Windows
>Rah Rah " guys have purchased microsoft stock and have vested interest
>in promoting microsoft products? Does this constitute conflict of
>interest ?
>    sanjeev

So what? The point is moot. They could have just as easily bought IBM
stock and gone the other way. I suppose if we take your argument as
true, we can conclude that they probably bought the one that they
thought had a better chance of succeeding. Makes sense.

- Brian
From: TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET (Turgut Kalfaoglu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: System Reqs for 2.0?
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:28:03 GMT
Organization: European Academic Research Network

Reserve about 20-30 MB for OS/2. Yes, your configuration is just fine.
Heck, it even runs fine on this 16Mhz, 4MB, 59Mbyte hard disk-ed machine!

-turgut
From: brown@chinchilla.cc.ucf.edu (Bill Laughner-Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Tape Backup ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:49:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Central Florida

In article <sasdbh.702750777@fly> sasdbh@unx.sas.com (David Horne) writes:

>Do you know if Maynard will have software for the Archive 5580i tape drive?
>This is the only thing holding me back from switching over to os/2 2.0.
>--
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dave Horne               SAS Institute Inc.      (919) 677-8000 x6199
>Quality Assurance        SAS Campus Drive        Rm. V422
>sasdbh@unx.sas.com       Cary, NC 27513

While I'm not certain which model that is, if it's an industrial drive (i.e. 
normally hooks up to Suns, etc), no cigar.  Those drives aren't supported 
on PC's by any of our software.  In fact, MaynStream itself only supports 
Maynard tape drives and is only distributed with a Maynard system or as an 
upgrade for the same.  Now, Archive Information Manager (AIM) is the product 
we can bundle with the OEM Archive Label tape drives.  It is essentially the 
same product as MaynStream.  However, like  I said, that doesn't include the 
Unix workstation drives.  If you want some iron clad info, call 1-800-821-
8782.

Regards,

Bill Brown                           Maynard(R) - An Archive Company
Internet: brown@chinchilla.cc.ucf.edu
MCIMail via Internet: Bill_Brown%Maynard_Electronics_Inc@mcimail.com
no speakada Maynard.  jes' me.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:58:52 CST
From: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: installation woes
Reply-To: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM - Austin
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

In <1992Apr13.1480.12098@dosgate> "mark nickel" <mark.nickel@canrem.com> writes:
>I picked up OS2 at Computerfest yesterday and am having some problems
>getting the damn thing(oops I mean FINE PROGRAM) to install.
>
>First off.... Should the System disk 1 be writeable?  I keep getting
>system error 0037(I think), which tells me that the system cannot
>write A: because the disk is write protected.  I would fix this, but the
>disk doesn't have a write protect switch.
>
>Inorder to get around this first program, I made a copy of this disk.
>
>My next problem comes with disk two.  After telling OS2 not to format
>my C drive I get a message that it is copying system files.  At this
>point the program hangs....leaving the light of both my A disk and my
>C disk on.
>
>Reinstalling the config.sys and autoexec.bat on my fixed disk,
>but not erasing the few OS2 files that the previous install attempt
>created, a subsequent attempt gives yields these words of wisdom.
>
>System Detected an internal processing
>error at location

>60000, 5013
>
>0386000d1
>Internal Revision 6.307, 92/03/01
>The system has stopped. Record location number blah blah blah..
>
>HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPP!
>
>FWIW I am running a
>386 33 with 4 megs (intel)
>AMI bios 12/24/90
>Seagate 210 meg drive
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>thanks.
>
>...*
>*.Mark
>..
>---
>  DeLuxe 1.21
>--
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
>
Mark,

Clean out the entire disk.  Try the install again.  How many cylinders is
your hardfile configured for ??

I'm no install expert, but I know that os2 coughs at disks with too many
cylinders.  Can anyone help here ?

Gerry Thome
IBM - Austin

ps  - You can un-protect a write protected disk with a piece of scotch tape
      over the bottom left hole -- its how I make all those old OS2 1.0
      diskettes useable again (maybe for the 1st time)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Idiots at the Magazines
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 05:57:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I haven't had much opinion on this matter until this issue of PC Mag.,
the one that compares OS/2 to Windows.  They do a good, if ho-hum, job
of describing all the strengths and capabilities of OS/2 and then say
it is a loser.  How they get that conclusion from those facts totally
escapes me.  Even our buddy Zachmann totally blows it when he tells us
that the NeXT is built on the Macintosh kernel.  *Mach*, William F., not
Macintosh. Sheesh.  This kind of blithering ignorance seems contrived
to make him and his boost of OS/2 look stupid. Steve must be writhing in
agony.

I sniff the stench of payola.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts