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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Several questions...
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:46:54 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Aug10.194833.12614@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP writes:
 > As this is the second time I've seen this question around, I thought
 > I'd take a stab at it... :-)
 > 
 > Short and simple: "Cream Lemon" is a series of OAVs which consists of
 >   sex with a plot wrapped around it.  It's an anthology series, so
 >   the various parts usually have no relation to each other.

Or in a couple of cases, it's pure comedy material packaged with a
touch of sex (see Star Trap and Pop Chaser).

 > Short and simple: "Urotsuji Doji" (and I know I got the name wrong)
 >   is sex with no plot wrapped around it.  'Nuff said.

Bzzt. Never seen the movie then? (I have seen the second movie [not the
second part of the first Wandering Kid series] and that thing has got
more plot than you could poke an Ohmu at.)

BTW. In that second movie compile, is the guy who summons the demon at
the end the grown-up survivor (young assistant) from the WW2
experiment?? Sure seemed like it to me. No plot, HA!

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Hurricane Live 2032
Keywords: Bubble Gum Crisis Hurricane Live
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


"Asu e Touchdown" is the only music video in Hurricane Live 2032 that
has new animation.  The rest recycle clips from BGC 1-3.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

-- 
The Next Challenge - Public Access Unix in Northern Va. - Washington D.C.
703-803-0391 To log in for trial and account info.
From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: TIENANMEN SQUARE anime
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:28:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

I don't agree that there are subtleties of expression that cannot be
communicated in animation...one might as well argue that there are
subtleties of expression in a photograph that cannot be communicated in
a painting. One advantage of painting (and anime is, of course,
painting) is that it allows for complete control of presentation in the
hand of a skilled artist. If you refer to gross body movements, these
had already been comprohensively analyzed on film by the beginning of
this century, and they can certainly be mimiced in animation. And what
makes animated "talking heads" any more boring than live-action "talking
heads?" If I didn't believe that what can be done in live-action can be
done in animation, I wouldn't be in this business. Obviously, because of
the specialized labor needs involved, most films will continue to be
made in live-action, and there's no reason why they shouldn't be. I just
want to claim more respect for anime.

--Carl Horn

"It's no secret that our world is in darkness tonight."

                            --U2, "The Fly"
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Clamshell Option (was Re: Impressions on HL 2032
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:48:20 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <5448@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu writes:
 > 
 > Maybe AnimEgo should provide customers with the OPTION of getting
 > clamshell cases.
 > 
 > This could be done by putting a request for a clamshell case slip
 > along with each copy of an AnimEgo tape that has a slipcover.
 > 
 > Customer sends $3-$5 check along with the slip.

I had that idea too a couple of hours ago. However, they'd have to keep
a large number of empty clamshells in stock and get the cover inlays
printed (the master copy being somewhere in the hundred's of dollars, I
believe)...

I too would be prepared to pay an extra $3 if I could get a clamshell.
For me it's more a case of protecting the tape, than saving shelf space
(although with 300+ tapes I'm having enough troubles as it is). <sigh>

 > Customers are happy, stores are happy, Animego is happy.

AnimEigo (don't forget the "i" in there) wouldn't be that happy. I
talked to Big Chief Woodhead already about this. Simple economics don't
make it all that viable. (Although, like with the LD's, if enough
people ask for it, we may make it affordable for them.)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ae561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Wong)
Subject: Re: Tirade against Eternity's ROBOTECH crap
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:09:08 GMT


	HL, sorry, but I do not own a scanner at the moment....
I do not even own a computer!

	At this moment, I amn trying to type on a freind's 386sx25Mhz
and on a "weird" keyboard.  

	Anyone have some docs. to AutoDesk Animator?  I want to animate
a video resume!

-- 
ae561@clevleand.freenet.edu
pwong@heartland.bradley.edu
usr10687@tso.uc.EDU
From: dscott@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Danielle M. Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: KOR 91210
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:26:20 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

--
 
I remeber hearing at Anime Expo that someone did a parody manga of
KOR with Beverly Hills 91210 (or something like that) and was called
KOR 91210.
Is this a rumor or a really bad joke. But then, KOR and 91210 do have 
some things in common......weird, ne.
Anyways, if it is true where can I get it?
-- 
    ******** Danielle Scott (Chun-Li) dscott@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US ********
    *    I'M A DEMENTED FEMALE ARTIST, PAINTING BILBOARDS, IN LARGE,  *
    *  CAPITAL LETTERS AND TELLING JOKES NOBODY ELSE WOULD LISTEN TO. *
    ****** Survived the KOR experiance, and Otaku Love SUCKS! *********
From: umadoka@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mantas don't fly!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Lodoss War cd #2:Hoshi no Ame
Keywords: translation
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:44:15 GMT

(Note:  my humble side has gotten the better of me, so I have changed my name!)


This is the middle vocal on the second Lodoss War cd.  A translation of the
first vocal piece will be forthcoming soon.
I am translating songs to learn Japanese.  Corrections and comments are 
welcome.  I do not mind  this translation being reprinted for non-profit
use, but please contact me first.  Since translations take a lot of time
and effort, if anyone wnats to use my translations for profit, please tell
me, so I can get some money from it too! :)



Hoshi no Ame (Rain of Stars)
Translation by Melinda Miller

Saisho wa			The beginning
Atatakai mizu no naka de	Inside warm water
Utau you nakodou o kiita	Hearing the song-like heartbeat
Umareta shunkan			The moment of birth
Hajimaru kodoku no ubugoe	The beginning loneliness of a baby's first cry
Kaerou to sakebu		Howling "I want to return."

Breath....			Breath....
Sono toosa ni taekirezu		I can't bear that distance
draw my breath...		draw my breath...
Wasure you to shita basho wa	Where is
Doko ni aru no			the completely forgotten place?

Karada no naka de		Inside the body
Hoshitachi no ame ga		the rain of stars
Anata e to furisosogu		rains down on you

breath....			breath....
giniro ni kouru yoake		Golden frozen dawn
draw my breath...		draw my breath...
Kasaneau ikizukai o		Repeated breath
Hifu o someru			colors the skin

Kizutsukeru hodo anata o aishita   You loved the degree of suffering

(breath)			(breath)
Saigo o mitasu hareshon		Filling the last halation*
draw my breath...		draw my breath...
Subete o ukeire			Receiving all
Mezameru ima			Waking up to reality now.

(breath)			(breath)
Inori yori mo yuruyaka ni	Praying more than on the gentle slope
draw my breath...		draw my breath...
Tooku naru koe ga		The voice becoming distant
Watashi o yobu			Calls me.


*Halation:  In photography, an undesirable spreading or reflection of
light on a negative, appearing like a halo around highlights.
I didn't know what it meant, either....  According to my dictionary, if 
this were written in kanji, it would be written with the same characters as
shashin (photograph).
From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Make Your Own Anime!
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:15:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Cc: carlh@library.tmc.edu

TIENANMEN SQUARE: a feature film whose production goal would be to
combine the best skills of Katsuhiro Otomo and Hiroyuki Yamaga's people--
i.e., the staffs of AKIRA and THE WINGS OF HONNEAMISE, and whose
narrative goal would be to analyze, explain, and commemorate a great and
terrible spring in China. Major characters would include: Deng Xiaoping,
the paramount leader of China since 1978, a man who was born *before*
"The Last Emperor" was, a man who embodies a lifetime of struggle for
the sake of power; Chai Ling, virtually Deng's "opposite number," the
woman who was the erstwhile leader of the student faction in Tienanmen
Square, who escaped it to tell the world; Bernard Shaw, the anchorman
for CNN, the network that with this event became the foremost source of
television news in the world, and made what happened in Beijing real,
immediate, and intimate to the rest of the world--while never guessing
the final outcome.

Tienanmen Square became an artifact of the video age, and as the story
unfolded in real time, the media needed quick explanations. Now, an
enduring film needs to be made, both as a memorial to those who died for
the sake of liberty, and as a way to tell the full story, beyond the
video bites. It is also a film that could *not* be made in live-action
at this time, because, of course, it could not be filmed in Beijing. It
would be a great opportunity to expand the possibilities of anime. I
believe the creators of AKIRA and HONNEAMISE could be up to the
challenge.

--Carl Horn
From: ingalz@cji.Eng.Sun.COM (Charles Ingalz [Contractor])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Help with Ranma, please? (Tasukete!)
Date: 12 Aug 1992 21:32:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ingalz@cji.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: cji

In article AC8@rahul.net, rick@rahul.net (John D'Elia) writes:
>Howdy, netters.  I was wondering if someone could explain/summarize all the different Ranmas I keep hearing about (Like Yarawa!)...  The only Ranma I've really seen is most of the _FIRST_ season.  Are they separate story lines, or what?  Help help!
>
>

	First, there was the Shonen Sunday Comic which continues to this day. Then there was the original 18 (correct me if I'm wrong) TV episodes which roughly follows the comic.  Then starting from no 1 again there was the second TV series of Ranma 1/2 (whose days are now numbered).  Recently there was the first Ranma movie.  And soon there will be a second movie.  

	Everything past the first series of TV episodes has no clear connection with the Sunday comic except for the characters themselves and a stray TV episode every once in a while that seems to follow a few chapters in the Sunday comic.  Also in the new TV series as with the original, sometimes two to three episodes are connected together.

	That's as much as I know, I never really pursued Ranma past the classic Ice Skating episodes for lack of good ideas on Takahashi's part.  As a matter of fact, most of the new TV episodes are flat out dull.  Maybe someone else can elaborate on the specifics.

Charles Ingalz
Sunlabs (SMLI)
Mountain View, CA


Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Gasp! Canceled?
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 06:29:14 GMT

In article <HgaJPB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, rickf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Rick Fung) writes:
# michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
# - Typical. I finally get my first lot of Yawara episodes and am just
# - getting into it, and they pull the plug. Dear Mr. Murphy, you're
# - japanese, nee? :)
#  
# Yeah, I know what you mean.  Just received my first few episodes of 
# Yawara today myself and now I hear it's being cancel :<  Btw, does
# anyone know how many episodes there will be when the series ends? I
# like to get an idea what I'm in for :)

124 episodes.  You have a lot to look forward to.

# - Hmmm, I wonder why they didn't wait with the Ranma and Yawara movie
# - release until AFTER the series had finished. Would have been somewhat
# - more appropriate.
# - 
# There's a Yawara! movie?  Do you happen to know what the movie is going to
# be about?

It's in my Animedia July 1992 summary, but..

 Yawara!  Soreike Koshinuke Kids!
  (plays with the Ranma movie)
  Yawara will make a debut in the movie.  This story will have nothing
  to do with the Barcelona Olympics.  The story will be about Yawara
  becoming a coach for a very weak kids' team.
  There was a similar story in the TV series when Yawara became the
  coach of the weak high school team and coached them to win the first
  round match of the regional tournament.  In the movie Yawara will
  become the coach of the weak town kids' judo club.
  The real coach became sick just before a match.  Then the team lost
  badly to another team, except for Mayumi, the 6th grade daughter of
  the coach.  The captain of the other team Junji was a childhood friend
  of Mayumi.  Junji also used to be on her team.  Since the boys and
  girls judo will be separated when they go to junior high, Mayumi
  wanted to defeat Junji before then.  Yawara accepts the job of being
  their coach and spots the feeling Mayumi had in her heart..

--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AAAAAAARRRRRG!!! my mind is going...
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:34:45 GMT
Reply-To: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Organization: Purdue Animation Club, Purdue University

Newsgroup-check: rec.arts.anime

>

Dream or reality?

When I was back last night after the four months 'vacation', 
I was told that I have been dead for three months and twenty 
nine days. I was also told that you guys made a lovely little
funeral for me, with Kei and Yuri providing the security
and Ayukawa reading the eulogy.
 
Lovely thought. It's must be a party then.


Anyway, that's what Kevin told me and I believed him... 


...for a moment.



Enough with my holiday mode. Back to business...


 - B.W.!
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Lupin III -- New Movie ???!!!
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:38:16 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <Bt3y19.By4@chinet.chi.il.us> dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us writes:
 > 
 > I heard a rumor that there is a BRAND NEW anime movie in the Lupin III
 > series, and that it has been released in New York with dialog IN
 > ENGLISH.  

Huh?

 > Is this true, partly true, or merely wishful thinking?

Well, there was a new Lupin III movie for TV, but it only just screened
in Japan. I doubt it would have made it over here IN ENGLISH that
quickly.

 > Has anyone seen it?
 > 
 > Is it worthy of Castle Cagliostro?

I've seen bits of art from it. Not as good as the old ones, IMO.
Definitely NOT on the level of Castle Cagliostro (but then, none of it
is :)...

Someone saw it in Japan (Curtis Hoffman) and he hated it. From what he
reported, it just didn't have that classic Lupin feel to it (lots of
triple-takes, and recycled story elements).

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From: steyn@cs.rochester.edu (Gavin Steyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Oh no!  American vs. Japanese animation
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:25:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug19.132502.6335
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

In article <1992Aug19.052342.13276@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:

>There's immaturity and there's immaturity.  Escapist fiction is immature
>by definition: a truly "mature" being shouldn't feel the need to get away
>from his life.  My reference was to the "immaturity" of the goofy, silly
>plot and characters, immature in that it appeals to children and the
>childlike aspects of our nature.  Compare the most serious scenes in DP
>and BGC with the most serious scene in WFRR?, and which do you think would
>come out on top?

This is unfair for several reasons.  One is that _Roger Rabbit_ was
not trying to "break the mold" by throwing heavy duty emotional stuff
on the screen.  In a lot of ways, it's a full length Warner Bros.
cartoon.  Whether _Roger Rabbit_ broke the mold in the directions it
was trying to is another question...
  Second, other than the "goofy" part, most anime falls under your
definition of immature.  The BGC characters and plots are pretty
silly, and the DP even more so.  If you want serious, anime (with 
certain notable exceptions like _Grave of the Firefly_) is just
not the place to go.  (Try ex-Soviet animation for a start).  Personally,
I like silly stuff...

>I've always had a problem arguing why I think anime is currently "better"
>than nearly all American animation.  The problem is words.  I sometimes
>complain about the art in American animation, how the faces are extremely
>stylized for effect.  Without fail, someone will shoot back, "Well, aren't
>anime characters stylized as well?  Big eyes blah blah blah?"  How do I
>explain the difference between the stylization in anime and that in THE
>SIMPSONS, BEBE'S KIDS, HAMMERMAN, BEETLEJUICE, and so on, where the
>characters don't even look vaguely human?

You don't.  You're used to seeing anime-type stylization, since it's
similar to the stylization Disney uses.  The Simpsons, for example,
are stylized in a different direction, but they're no less recognizbly
human.  

>How do I describe the types of plots I want?  All the good words have been
>stolen!  "Mature" means sex.  "Adult" means sex.  "Not for children" means
>sex and/or violence.  How do I explain a plot whose themes might go over
>the head of a child, without having to appeal to sex or violence?

The problem is not with the plots you want; the problem is claiming
that they're only in anime.  Most anime plots wouldn't go over the
hea of a 12-year old, and you can find anthropomorphic animation that
has plots that are deeper than you average 18-20 year old is going
to plumb in one watching (e.g. _The Last Unicorn_, or _Watership Down_).

Gavin Steyn
steyn@cs.rochester.edu
"So he's had the lifelong ambition of reversing the polarity of the earth?"
From: fongj@honi.EE.McGill.CA (chun kwai jay fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re:  Jackie Chan movies
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:21:01 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Hi Michael,

  I believe when last I "heard" (from Chinese magazine) Jackie is filming the
City Hunter live-action in Japan!  Can't wait till it comes out!!!

Jay
From: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime UK article on dubbed Dominion (full)
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:06:13 GMT
Organization: Network Solutions Group / GEC Alsthom, Sydney

In article <713463657snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> 
michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

> The most frightening phrase in the entire article for me is IWC's
> statement about the change of the music: "[the original music] wasn't
> in tune with the preferences of today's kids". Bye-bye "Tanky Boys,
> Tanky Girls"!!! [They're also gonna attempt lip-synching.]

Keep an open mind on this! 

> The major changes made for the DOMINION British release come on the
> music track. This has been completely rewritten and remixed by top
> record producer BROWN EYES [don't ask me - ed.], IWC's reason for the

Now you have me interested in this.  Brown Eyes huh?

> Brown Eyes makes his debut as a performer for Warner under the name B
> CLASSIC with a new single in July. He started his career as assistant
> to Hans Zimmer, the LA composer of film and TV scores, and went on to
> produce remixes [gawd, how I dread that word :) - ed.] for such bands

Obviously not an On-U sound fan :-)

I'll admit I'm interested in this more because of the artist than the
reworking of the original soundtrack (which I don't agree with BTW).

Michael
--
standing by the cig machine who did i see           Michael J. Edwards 
in lurex and terylene she hypnotised me             michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au 
i asked her name and she said it's 
salome maoloney el supremo of the ritz - john cooper clarke
From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIMEIGO : BUBBLEGUM CRISIS ON LASERDISC
Keywords: animeigo bubblegum crisis laserdisc ld
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:52:27 GMT
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.

wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:

>What, you mean you aren't God Emperor of AnimEigo yet and can exercise
>your absolute will upon the company?  I'm so disappointed in you...8->

<5 minutes of incoherent laughter later>

Roe and I are but demi-gods.  We put up a brave front, and do what the
true gods tell us to do.
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