HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Setting up new site with mail/news
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:24:54 GMT

In <1992Oct13.145704.16544@PA.dec.com> jeff@raga.zk3.dec.com (Jeff Anuszczyk - Don't blink or you'll miss the future changing) writes:

[deleted]

>afford a direct connection I figured I could beg a feed from some kind sole
>in the neighborhood (anyone have one in Waltham, MA :-).

Check the uumaps of the area.  If you do not see a ~uucp/uumap dir on
your current machine, try the comp.mail.maps dir--look for the massachusetts
maps.  You can do a search in your fave editor for Waltham and see what you
come up with.

>   Have'n said that, my problem is the company is almost exclusively PC based. 
>I figured I could use something like UUPC to setup a UUCP link with whatever
>site ends up feeding me news and mail.  However, I'm a bit uncertain what
>happens next.  Is there such a thing as NNTP for the PC to allow viewers on
>the individual PC's to access the news on the "main" system.  Also, how will
>mail work?  Will they need to login or some such to the mail system or can it
>be distributed to the PC's using something like cc:mail?  If it's important
>all of the PC's and other stuff (like VAXstation, SCO Unix system) are
>connected via ethernet.

A popular technique is to install Waffle on a PC and to use it as a "BBS".
Alternatively, fsuucp has a mail and news front end--I think uupc also
has these.

>   Pointers to any and all information would be greately appreciated.

Look for O'Reilly & Associates's "Managing UUCP and Usenet".  Highly
recommended.  The latest edition includes info on a couple of DOS options.
--
Ken			"You're right about the moon
jester@crash.cts.com	 but wrong about the stars"--J. Browne
ucsd!crash!jester
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Anyone used uupc AND fsuucp?
Keywords: uucp fsuucp comparison
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:

> I'm trying to settle on one of the PC based uucp packages: either uupc or
> fsuucp. Has anyone used BOTH of these packages that can give me a critique?
> Both seem fairly capable, but I'd like to know how they stand up to real
> use.

Have you considered Waffle?  It works.


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: amillar@netcom.com (Alan Millar)
Subject: Re: Anyone used uupc AND fsuucp?
Keywords: uucp fsuucp comparison
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:57:22 GMT

And thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) didst rise up and spake forth:
>I just wanted to follow up on my previous info request. I received five email
>responses and have seen three follow-up posts. So far it's unanimous in favor 
>of uupc.

In which case, did you look at Waffle?

I haven't used fsuucp, but I did use uupc, and Waffle beats the pants off
of uupc.

Waffle has news built-in (it doesn't need an add-on like snews)

Waffle has a good newsgroup (comp.bbs.waffle)

Waffle has REAL aliases (for incoming as well as outgoing) for mailing lists,
etc.

Waffle has plenty of news/mail gateway capabilities.

You can dial-in to Waffle remotely.

EVERYTHING in waffle is configurable.  From screens to prompts to help text to
address formats to you-name-it.

You get the picture.  And before anyone asks, NO it doesn't have to be used
as a BBS to be an excellent uucp site.

Just another satisfied Waffle user...

- Alan
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: "Igor N. Avtaev" <ain@ain.terem.perm.su>
Subject: Re: BSD UUCP replacement
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:12:56 GMT
Reply-To: ain@ain.terem.perm.su
Organization: Terem Limited

elitman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman) writes:
>
>What
>reccomendations would you make for a replacement system? Is there anyone else
>managing a NeXT network using a replacement system that is worth looking
>into?
>
>At this time, I use UUCP to relay mail, but would like to add USENET
>capabilities to this.
>
>I appreciate any response you can give.
>
In ExUSSR there exist net -- Relcom.
It is UUCP-net, but it use Internet's addresses.
The command rmail (uumail) was rewritten.
It translate Internet-address to UUCP-path according to router table.
You can find source codes (free software) in mailserv@kiae.su
If you want to receive rmail (uumail), send message:

	get relcom/Uumail.tar.Z

to server. The size of relcom/Uumail.tar.Z is about 110K.
Sorry, we have only russian documentation.


>From cold Ural,
Igor Avtaev
Alexey Kostarev

P.S. Pardon for poor English


Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: What does #F line in uucp maps mean?
Organization: The Tiny Software Co., via APK Public Access Unix, Cleveland
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:02:33 GMT

ziegast@godzilla.UU.NET (Eric W. Ziegast) writes:
>It's pretty much a comment field (no one really uses it, does anyone?)
>for who the site's Internet forwarder is.  For example,

Tiny.com, and many sites here in Northeast Ohio who have Internet forwarders,
do use #F.

-- 
Steve Sobol     (IRC: RockNRoll)           sjsobol@tiny.com, sjsobol@wariat.org
President, The Tiny Software Co.                    ag510@cleveland.freenet.edu
Coordinator, Unix SIG, Greater Cleve. PC User Group        23707 Glenhill Drive
Founder, Midwest Regional COHERENT User Group        Cleveland, OH 44122    USA
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: david@aim1.aztec.co.za (David Mason)
Subject: Wanted: X25 mail feed
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:56:27 GMT
Organization: Aztec Information Management

My company is way down on the tip of Africa, in Cape Town, South Africa.
We currently receive a newsfeed from our local university, which is 
connected to the Internet.  However, local Coms regulations and cost
regulations prohibit them from carrying mail for us.  We have an X.25
connection, and would like to fetch our mail from somebody connected
to the Internet.  Our volumes are low, but of course we would be willing
to pay all expenses involved.

If anybody can help us, please let me know.

Mail should be addressed to david%aim1@ucthpx.uct.ac.za, not the default 
address.
-- 
David Mason, Unix system support.
Aztec Information Systems, Cape Town, South Africa.
"It talks to me in gibberish like `ProComm', a term that is unnerving to a 
survivor of the McCarthy era",      Mary McGrory in The Washington Post.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: How to log transfer statistics (bytes/sec) with uucp?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:04:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.003658.701@sandr.COM> dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy) writes:
>I'm using tua, which picks up the stats for HDB uucp sites and gives
>LOTS of good info.

	I have used tua 3.2.1 and it seems to have a problem with
	putting garbage in its database file every few days.
	Has this been fixed, and is there a newer release?
	(This in under sysvr4)

-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
From: spel@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: SCO R3.2.4 UUCP Problems
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:54:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Oct7.145446.28170
Organization: Katatura State Hospital, Windhoek, Namibia

In <9210060626.AA04632@uxmail.ust.hk> gu_jc3@stu.ust.hk (GU) writes:

>I encountered the following problems with HDB UUCP came with SCO UNIX
>R3.2.4:

>command executed: "uucp /usr/tmp/test1.txt olisc!~/test1.txt"

>uucp olisc  (10/5-20:29:09,963,0) SUCCEEDED (call to olisc )
>uucp olisc  (10/5-20:29:12,963,0) OK (startup tty1A)
>root olisc oliscN5fb1 (10/5-20:29:12,963,0) REQUEST (hkpcug!/usr/tmp/test1.txt
>                                            --> olisc!~/test1.txt (root))
>root olisc oliscN5fb1 (10/5-20:29:12,963,1) BAD READ (expected 'S' got FAIL)
>root olisc oliscN5fb1 (10/5-20:29:12,963,1) FAILED (conversation complete
>                                            tty1A 30)

This is an old one (not related to SCO), though it took me
three months to find out (thanks to dave taylor) :-)-O

One of both modems or both (in my case the receiving one) uses
XON/XOFF as flow control and 'swallows' an XOFF (^S, the
expected 'S'). This never arrives and that is why it fails.

Cure, I hate to admit, is to RTFM and find out with what AT
sequence you have to put into your setup chat to stop the
modem from using flow control.

greetings, el
-- 
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Katatura State Hospital   \        |                            (el@lisse.NA)
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Windhoek, Namibia           ;____/ (postmaster@uonamib.NA) Postmaster NAmibia
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: "Igor N. Avtaev" <ain@ain.terem.perm.su>
Subject: Re: BSD UUCP replacement
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:05:09 GMT
Reply-To: ain@ain.terem.perm.su
Organization: Terem Limited

elitman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman) writes:
>
>What
>reccomendations would you make for a replacement system? Is there anyone else
>managing a NeXT network using a replacement system that is worth looking
>into?
>
>At this time, I use UUCP to relay mail, but would like to add USENET
>capabilities to this.
>
>I appreciate any response you can give.
>
In ExUSSR there exist net -- Relcom.
It is UUCP-net, but it use Internet's addresses.
The command rmail (uumail) was rewritten.
It translate Internet-address to UUCP-path according to router table.
You can find source codes (free software) in mailserv@kiae.su
If you want to receive rmail (uumail), send message:

	get relcom/Uumail.tar.Z

to server. The size of relcom/Uumail.tar.Z is about 110K.
Sorry, we have only russian documentation.


>From cold Ural,
Igor Avtaev
Alexey Kostarev

P.S. Pardon for poor English
From: steve@cg57.UUCP (Steve Froeschke)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Where to put dial string delays for International calls
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:29:38 GMT
Organization: E & S Systems Unix Gateway, San Diego, CA

johnl@microware.com (John Lengeling) writes:

>I am having problems completing calls to the U.K.  If I use my TB+ to call the
>phone number is fails and if I dial the number by hand it completes.  I am 
>not using any delays on the dial string to call the U.K.  I keep
>getting some sort of error tone when the modem dials.  Maybe the modem is 
>dialing too fast?  Where would I put delays in the dial string?

John,

I used to dial London on a regular basis using uucp and my TB+ here.  What
I ended up having to do was insert a 4 second pause "\d\d" in my dialers
string after the expect string from Connect.  I had tried changing S7
register, but found I had better results with the forced delay. 

I hope this helps.

Steve
From: craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: mail and netnews software to work with Taylor UUCP
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:55:28 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32


I'm in the process of trying to port the Taylor UUCP package to my system.

What I'd like to know is what else is needed/required/available/etc. to add
email and netnews capabilities on top of the raw UUCP setup. I'd be looking
for software that's very portable (as portable as possible), and that is not
going to require too much additional support/maintenance other than the
occasional patch/update/etc.

My operating system is not strictly Unix, but is Unix-like enough to port some
Unix-based stuff to. So far I'm not having any trouble with the Taylor UUCP
stuff, so things that follow similar lines in the portability stakes will
probably be quite manageable.

Any advice/tips/etc. would also be appreciated.
-- 
 Craig Dewick               |      - Railway Preservation Industries P/L -
 Send email to:             |      actively supporting the preservation of
 craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au |           Australia's railway heritage.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric A. Litman)
Subject: BSD UUCP replacement
Organization: U. of Maryland, College Park.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:59:20 GMT

I'm running standard BSD UUCP on a small NeXT network. I have found that
the system is lacking in many areas (logging, configurability, 
extensibility) and would like to replace it with something else. I have read
tidbits about Taylor and HDB UUCP - I have heard that HDB is configuerd
specifically for Sun workstations, and know even less about Taylor. What
reccomendations would you make for a replacement system? Is there anyone else
managing a NeXT network using a replacement system that is worth looking
into?

At this time, I use UUCP to relay mail, but would like to add USENET
capabilities to this.

I appreciate any response you can give.

--
Eric A. Litman  #import <std/disclaimer.h> | NeXTMail, MIME accepted - please 
Federal Region, NeXT Campus Consultant     | indicate in Subject line.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: jeff@raga.zk3.dec.com (Jeff Anuszczyk - Don't blink or you'll miss the future changing)
Subject: Setting up new site with mail/news
Organization: DEC Unix Engineering Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:43:04 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: Where to put dial string delays for International calls
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 06:31:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.003639.6478@microware.com> johnl@microware.com (John Lengeling) writes:
>I am having problems completing calls to the U.K.  If I use my TB+ to call the
>phone number is fails and if I dial the number by hand it completes.  I am 
>not using any delays on the dial string to call the U.K.  I keep
>getting some sort of error tone when the modem dials.  Maybe the modem is 
>dialing too fast?  Where would I put delays in the dial string?
>

You would put them either right after the "send" string that makes the
modem dial, or in the "expect" string that looks for the modem's connect
message.  Assuming you have an HDB uucico:

Example Dialers file entry-

	example  =W-,  "" ATS7=90 OK ATDT\D CONNECT

(1)  Delay before starting script timer.  Adequate for short delays-

	example  =W-,  "" ATS7=90 OK ATDT\D\r\d\d\d\d\c CONNECT

(2)  Double the wait time for modem's connect message-

	example  =W-,  "" ATS7=90 OK ATDT\D CONNECT-\c-CONNECT


The first example sends the dial command and a Carriage Return (\r) so the
modem begins to dial.  Then it waits 8 seconds (the four \d codes) and
does NOT send the automatic Carriage Return (\c), before it starts looking
for the modem's connect message in the "expect field.  This works well,
though it's kind of clunky for long delays - so many \d codes make the
dialer difficult to understand.

The second example relies on the feature in HDB uucp where you can tell
the script what to do if it does NOT get the characters in the "expect"
field.  The script dials normally and looks for the modem's connect
message.  If it gets the message, the script succeeds.  If not, the script
performs the action after the minus sign.  In this case it does nothing
(no string to send and the \c suppresses the automatic Carriage Return),
and looks for the new "expect" field after the second minus sign.  The
new "expect" field is the same as the first one, but the timer has been
started over again.  In effect, the script will wait twice as long before
it gives up on the call.  You can triple the wait time by adding another
"-/c-CONNECT" to the end, but you should be careful about adding too many
of them.  If the line's busy, it will take the entire 3x timeout to free
the modem up!



-- 
 .------------------------------------------------------------------.
 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
 |                 |   Internet: gerg@netcom.COM                    |
 `------------------------------------------------------------------'
From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga [POSTMASTER])
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: UUCP UUNET using Compuserve Dialup
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:23:25 EST
Organization: Megalith Mail & News Server

Hi Netters, :-)

	I have a question and am Hoping that someone out there may
have already solved it or have suggestions on the Topic.

	My feed comes from UUNET, and I use the Compuserve lines to
get my feed from them.  The problem I am having is that I am
getting some God Awfull CPS rating while connected through
compuserve.  The CPS Figures vary from 600CPS - 870CPS.  I have my
UUCICO set for seven wire Handshaking.  I have also locked the port
at 38,400 Baud.  My computer is able to handle up to 57,600 Baud.
The connection speed between modem to modem is 9600 Baud.  I have
set the Window Size to 7 and a Segment size of 512.  Anyone out
there getting their feed from them in this way? If so are your
connections at all better than mine?  If so, what Window Size and
Segment size are you using?  Oh yes, one more thing.  I am
connecting to this Compuserve dialup using V.42Bis.  I don't think
I have left anything out. Hmmm. Ah yes, it is using the 'g'
protocol.  

	And while I am at it, are there any folks out there working
on a better protocol than the 'g' or 'G' protocols?  Perhaps
something as efficient as Zmodem? If so, who? What Machine is this
being implemented on, etc..

	Thanks and take care..

Carlos
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen)
Subject: Windows News Reader
Summary: Looking for Windows-based newsreader
Keywords: windows news newsreader
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:49:56 GMT

Is anyone aware of a MS Windows - based newsreader? I'm specifically looking
for one that can interface with UUPC / RNews.

TIA
Keith

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From: hansel@aero.org (Steven J. Hansel)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Login Lockup on SPARC - Help!
Date: 10 Oct 1992 06:54:26 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org


I am having a problem during the login phase of uucico on my Sun SPARC-
station.  My computer makes the connection, detects the login prompt,
sends the login name, receives the echo from the login name but never
sees the password prompt.  I have attempted to call three different
systems.  One works fine and the others lock up.  When I try the same
scripts on my Amiga, it has no problems.

When I log in by hand (using cu) I get the normal password prompt.  I
have a Supra V.32bis faxmodem but I have the same problem using a simple
hayes.

I tried adding delays adding CR's, removing CR's, etc.  The only thing
unique about my configuration is that I'm using hardware handshaking
enabled with STTY crtscts in my Dialers file.  Removing this didn't
seem to make any difference.

I'm running SunOS 4.1.2 with sun's uucp package using /dev/ttyb.

If anyone has seen this problem before and solved it, or would like to
look at my configuration files, please send mail to usc.edu!amy!hansel.

	Thanks

		Steve Hansel

Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine)
Subject: What does #F line in uucp maps mean?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:33:04 GMT

Subject says it all.



-- 
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Fiver: "Oh, Hazel, look! The field! It's covered with blood!"
Hazel: "Don't be silly, it's only the light of the sunset." -- Watership Down
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: ziegast@godzilla.UU.NET (Eric W. Ziegast)
Subject: Re: What does #F line in uucp maps mean?
Organization: UUNET Technologies - Falls Church, VA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:41:15 GMT

It's pretty much a comment field (no one really uses it, does anyone?)
for who the site's Internet forwarder is.  For example,

	#N      moon, nbn, nbn.com, .nbn.com
	#F      uunet.uu.net
	...etc...

means that nbn.com (Hi John!) probably has it's domain-based mail
forwarded through uunet.uu.net (which is on the Internet.

Note: Like most of the other information in the UUCP maps, don't
count on it being accurate.
--
Eric Ziegast
From: boyko@cuphub.cup.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: RE:HELP ADDRESS
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:11:15 GMT
Organization: California University of Pennsylvania, California, PA

I NEED TO KNOW THE INTERNET ADDRESS FOR KENT STATE UNIVERSITY?
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: dhesi@cirrus.com (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: Re: Anyone used uupc AND fsuucp?
Keywords: uucp fsuucp comparison
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:35:02 GMT

In <46-PCNews-124beta@pos.pub.uu.oz.au> Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au
(Mark Purcell) writes:

>Options=suppresscopyright

>It is amazing what happend when you RTM.

Thanks for this hint.  I am one of those rare people who reads
manuals.  But this doesn't mean that I read every file that comes with
a package, especially those that are not in plain text format.

The suppresscopyright option is in a changes file, not in the
installation manual.  And since all the documentation files are in a
carriage-control format that requires conversion before they can be
read online, I only read the installation manual.

So UUPC accumulates points from me thus:

    +10  for providing the suppresscopyright option
    - 3  for requiring a special setting for this;  it should be the
	 default
    - 1  for not describing this in the manual
    ---  
    + 6  total
-- 
Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@cirrus.com>
also: dhesi@rahul.net