From: faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris)
Subject: RE: Arab U N I T Y
Reply-To: a.Faris@trl.oz.au 
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne,Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:23:24 GMT

In article <1e8eldINNk4g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:
|> One major thing I have to clearify is that I know for sure is that you are not
|> a muslim.  Therefore, I can't convince a person like you Islam is the solution
|> to Arab unity.  It just doesn't work!

Well to use a dictionary meaning of Muslim, I am a Muslim in a certain sense
that I have surrendered to God in a different way. However, it is not the way
Islam proclaims. You do not have to convince me that Islam is the solution,
I and millions of Arabs know that Islam is not the way in modern times to unify
the Arabs. Obviously you and some still do beleive that Islam is the way.

You do not have to convince a Christian Islam is the solution, since we
have no choice but follow like other minorities. Otherwise, we would have to
pick up and leave as that genius Bulbul said. However, you have to convince
about a 150 million Arabs that it is the right way to go.

A prosperous Iran has tried this approach and in the process have buried
themselves in a 600,000 sq.mile hole that they are begining to crawl out off.

|> 
|> Your biggest problem is that you have a null idea what Islam is and what
|> its history is.  Of course I am not surprise that a christian man like you
|> come up with all the proposals to sovle Arab problems.  A second biggest
|> problem is that you don't learn from history.  You always look at the
|> Arab league to be our saver.  How wonderful!  Look at what we are in now!

I know just as much about the history of Islam as you do, however, I looked
it objectively and you do not. Those who preach Arabic Unity based on Islam
should tell us how it is achieved. Frankly I had expected you to outline the
plan for the people who are interested on this net.

Allow me to teach you a lesson in history. The Arabic world is in a mess because
Islam allowed the Ottomans to come and take over the Arabic world. The Ottomans
being an occupier let the Arabic world rot while taking all the riches to please
the Sultan. The Europeans came in and drove the nail in the coffin, we are
trying to open the coffin's lid in 1992. The people of Iraq, Syria, and Egypt
developed writing, religions, Literature, architectures, and world scale
economies thousands of years ago. They have done it while the Europeans, who
control every thing we do now, were still food gatherers. Do you know anything
about history?.

Where we are now is not the fault of the Arabic League, we are there because
of what I understand you are advocating. I could very well be wrong, please
tell us how to achieve that unity under Islam. The Arabic league is similar
to the EC, Europe is about to be unified under the EC plan while giving the
Europeans lots of nationalistic freedoms. 

|> 
|> History is very important to man kind.  From the past, people learn their
|> future.  Can you deny that?  And if we, *muslim arabs*, found dignity through
|> Islam in the past, we will, inshallah, find it in the future.

Are all Arabs belong to your version of Islam. Tell us how to achieve dignity
instead of wishing it.

A.Faris
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic