From: jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Pak)
Subject: Re: Everybody eat s--t and die
Reply-To: jpak@manute.sps.mot.com (Kinder and Gentler Jim)
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:09:28 GMT

Anonymous posters who say words without being held accountable.  Don't you
just love 'em.

In article <92230.140114U51115@uicvm.uic.edu> U51115@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Let me see if I can say this in the nicest way possible.

OK, let's hear what nice things you have to say.

>This has to be the most stupidest and brainless newsgroup out there.

Hmm...  Pretty good start for you, too.  :-)

You know, I had a complete, ultra-nasty reply all typed up and ready to send
out.  But then I thought, why?  No CWB(tm) is going to knock me out of my
"kinder and gentler" state until I'm ready.  You guys try, I know, but you
can't succeed.  :-)

>O.K. now that I got that out of the way let me just say that you people
>deserve an award for the lamest subjects of all time.

Agreed.  Some of these subjects *are* kind of lame.  But it's been this way
for years.  You get good stuff and you get noise.  What do you think your
complaining (whining) is going to accomplish?  You think people will be
ultra-motivated to write stimulating articles for your pleasure after you
come in here with a witty subject title and a post of that tone?

You may not like the group, but then again, who's forcing you to read it?

Or is it perhaps you're spending too much time in front of the terminal
and should go outside more?  :-) :-)  (I've always wanted to pull this line
on someone else.  :-) )

>So far, all I've been reading is "White Guys Superiority" or whatever the
>hell it is and " Minorities that whine.

Then you haven't been reading all the articles in this group.  There have
been several threads going on that don't talk about either subject.  Why
don't you kill off the threads you don't like?  Or is it that you just can't
help but read those threads?  If so, what does that say about you?

You know, you sort of strike me like those "Moral Majority" types who watch
dirty movies on cable TV and start complaining about it while not being able
to unglue themselves from it, either.  "Another White guys thread!!  Oh, such
trash!!  Why do they write it??  [pause]  What does this guy have to say
about us, anyway?"  :-) :-)

>If you people would spend less time cutting each other down and more time
>doing something constructive, we wouldn't be this far back behind the
>Japanese.

The Japanese are also in a recession, my friend.  :-)

And if you other people who feel the need to WHINE about the topics in this
newsgroup would ever start writing CONSTRUCTIVE ARTICLES OF YOUR OWN rather
than coming up with witty subjects like "F***, that wonderful Scandinavian
word" or "Eat s*** and die" and whine on and on in the body of your posts,
maybe people would start ignoring those stupider threads and follow-up to
your more interesting threads.

You know, I'll admit it, I whine about a lot of things.  But the content of
this newsgroup is not one of them.  If you don't like it, there are many ways
to change the flow of the group.  Contribute!!  Ask some honest and sincerely-
phrased questions and people will answer (like that fellow who asked some
questions and got a nice reply from JJ).  Talk about how you hate cheese or
something.  :-)  I've seen this newsgroup at its best and its worst.  Whining
about the content of it does about as much good as whining about other things.
(Meaning, it does *some* good, but it does follow the law of diminishing
returns.)

>And please, please, please don't anybody out there give me a lecture about
>how bad they got or how I should wake up and see all the racism in this
>country because I've heard them all and every one of them has been as
>stupid as the other one.

Then I'd say you should open your eyes a little more to the subtle stuff that
goes on.

How do you know for a fact that the complaints about racism ("normal" racism
*or* reverse racism) aren't valid?  You may get tired of hearing it.  So what?
How do you know they're all "stupid"?

>I don't want to sound like I hate the world or anything, I just hate racist
>shit like this because nobody needs the aggravation.

Sounds like you're complaining about racism, then.  :-)

>I'm sure the majority of the subjects in this newsgroup are fine and they
>probably relate to important issues but this bitching from the asian
>americans about white guys stealing their women is corny. I mean if you're
>to damn ugly for your own kind, then it ain't the white guys fault.

Look, this is kind of mean of me to say, but I'll say it anyway since you
fired first.  I'm pretty sure you're a white guy from the tone of your post,
so let me say this one thing.  Some of you white guys had better look in the
mirror and take a reality pill, because to tell you the truth, you ain't so
damn good-looking yourselves.  And don't kid yourselves, either.  There are a
lot of you with AFs who deep in your hearts know you couldn't get the really
attractive members of "your own kind," either.  It was either this or Weight
Watchers city.  Given that, I don't blame you for your choices.

And that's all I'm going to say for now, 'cause that was mean enough.  Good
luck with your relationships with the AFs, but don't get carried away either
with how attractive you are.

>And if white people think that minorities complain too much than they
>should stop calling them chinks or gooks because only sister-fucking people
>would say something like that.

There's more to racism than just name-calling.

>I'm sure there's going to be some of you out there who don't agree with me
>and are going to lecture to me even though I asked you not to.

Hope this didn't come off as a lecture.  But yeah, I disagreed with you on
some of your points.

>Anyways, here some free advise: Never die with a pickle up your ass.
>It looks REAL bad.

Gee, thanks for that good "advise[sic]."

Kinder and Gentler Jim
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