From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Subject: Re: Legalized Discrimination in Quebec
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:20:06 GMT

In article <15DEC92.13491513.0077@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> O2NY000 <O2NY@UNB.CA> writes:
>In article <Bz97n1.DC8@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>>In article <12DEC92.14087944.0063@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> O2NY <O2NY@UNB.CA> writes:
>>First, you said of the 30% of bilingual NBers, most were of English
>>mother tongue while it was shown later this was false.
>>
>Yes, Denis this is true. And I admitted that I was wrong, something you
>do not seem capable of.

You admitted for the first time in the same sentence you say I didn't.

>>Then you said that the % of francos in NB was very far from the 40% I
>>gave (I think you said some 10%) while the figure was 30%.
>>
>This is a matter of degrees, to me a 10% difference is VERY signifigant.

Indeed.  Your figure of 1 city among a lot was not.

>>You said that only one town was franco in majority but forget to say that
>>4 counties were French in majority too.
>>
>I did not say TOWNS I said CITIES. And note that may statistics were
>correct. I used the cities because they represent the majority of the
>population, whereas, the counties you have mentioned have insignifigant
>population to acurately base data, or have less then signifigant %
>population differance.

This just reflects that anglophones are living in cities and francophones
in towns or villages.

>>This time, you invented someone?  You give no name, no place, no school
>>year.
>>
>My roomates' name is Lynne Deschenes, her father's first name is
>unknown, as I call him Mr. Deschenes. But he lives in the west side
>of Saint John, N.B. and is associated with Samuel DeChamplain school
>also in Saint John, N.B. I'll get his phone number if you like!

The right way of writting Lynne is Line or Lyne.  A taste of englicization?

>>So, until the 1960's, the NBers were stupid?  They actually had that
>>situation according to L'Actualite special report on Grande Acadie.
>>
>I really don't care if you beleive me, but if you don't I suggest you
>check it out for yourself. And although I don't mean extensive
>in the sense of Librairy of Congress, I think even you will find them
>quite extensive compared to the english language schools of much
>greater student population.

Probably extensive in the mean of my local library has an extensive
shelf of books in English.  A lot more books than what was available
in primary school, but far from what I find in a typical bookstore.

>>>(ii) the UN has declared the Quebec legislation unfair and oppressive
>>>    to minorities in Quebec.
>>
>>What did they say when the majority was oppressed?
>>
>So you want an 'eye for an eye'. The English oppressed the French. The
>English realize their mistake and try to make up for the past. The
>French then decide, now is their chance to make up for it, and oppress
>the English. Good plan, Denis. Very mature!

Before going an eye for an eye, wait the situation was normalized alone,
without needing a law.  Just wait that instead of using words like
"oppressive", they use words more accurate to depict the situation.
Then, it will be time to slow down the law.  Before 1976, a bilingual
francophone was earning less than a unilingual anglophone.  We needed
a law to get that.  Before depicting the state as oppressive, just check
what it was before.  And not a damn anglo protested before the law, not
a damn one.  Now, they pretend to be more civilized.  Oh, what a big step
they made in civilization in just one split second.  The day Quebecois
decided to change the direction of who take the decisions, who is
privileged, then, they begin to talk about the tyranny of majority.
But, before that, not a word about racism that was common.

Eye for eye?  My ass.  

>>Since the majority of anglophones and allophones are in Montreal,
>>this was leading to the main town being in one language and all the
>>other parts of country in another.
>                ^^^^^^^

So, you don't like that meaning of country?  Maybe a gallicism from me.
Pays is either a region or an independent state.  I apologize if you
can't accept other than limited meaning for words.  A province is
a colony of a central foreign state.  So, Quebec is a province?  OK,
but in this case, like the first thing a prisoner has to do is to get free,
then the first thing a province has to do is to liberate from the foreigners.
Or to change the term to something more accurate.

What about this one?  In a report about NB, a few years ago, they shown
a panel in English only for a store in a francophone communauty.
The head office of the company has decided not to advertise in French,
even in a store was deserving a 100% French-speaking town.  How would
you deal with this one?  Boycotting the store?  Boycott is a sign of
fight and war.  Writting letters?  Having a law?  What would YOU do????

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