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From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:47:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.162139.13607@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca  
(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> 
> Well, it just arrived. All I can say after a year of using
> the Fimi monitor is:
> 
> WOW, BLUE!!!!!
> 
> 
> The new monitor is VERY impressive. It is crisp, and clear,
> and the colors are WAY WAY WAY better than the old crappy
> monitor.
> 
> 
> 
> THUMBS UP to NeXT on this one!
> 
> - db

Is that a Sony Trinitron? I assume 17".

We have one of the 21" Color monitors, which we bought for $1000 more  
because Next's own folks secretly said the 17" one was BAD. Well I wonder  
how the new Trinitrons compare with the 21" monitor?

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Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: su File Viewer
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:45:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.174317.9626@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> Ian Jefferson (ijeff@alfred.carleton.ca) wrote:
> : > sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> : 
> : >This is why I prefer programs that are tar.Z's or zips to those that
> : >are packages.  I can start one or more gnutars or unzips and stuff in
> : >background.  Installer has a raft of mouse clicks and dreck.

So do I, and the Purdue NeXT Archives reflect that.

> Yeah, that one bothered me too.  Most tar.Z's would unpack into a self
> contained subdirectory, but on occasion, one would dump all over my Untested
> directory, and I'd be picking bits out here and there for a while.

All the tars at sonata should make a single directory.  If
they don't, tell archive-management.  Obviously,
submissions don't count since they haven't been
approved yet.  That's one of the many things I have to check
before a submission goes through. 

It is still hard to deinstall something if the author
didn't make it easy (or use Installer, which I still am not
entirely satisfied with). 

As always, read everything the supplier gave you and give
'em grief if you don't like how they do things.  And please
thank then if you do!  Take free software but don't take its
authors for granted. 

Allen B (Ooops, a little preachy there :-) )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: steved@essex.com
Subject: MIME Readers for NeXT
Reply-To: steved@essex.com
Organization: Essex Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:54:03 GMT

Are there any NeXT programs to read MIME-formatted mail?

Thanks,

Steve
-- 
Steve Dieringer NeXTMail:  steved@essex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: woo@ornl.gov(John W. Wooten)
Subject: InFocus NeXT Overhead Projector
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:39:13 GMT

Has anyone heard anything about a company called InFocus.
They supposedly make a projector that connects to the NeXT Station  
(somehow) and allows projecting the screen via an overhead projector.

I need the phone number of a vendor and some technical information.  We  
urgently need something like this for a classroom.

- - - - - - - - -
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Foreign languages for BackSpace on purdue
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:38:37 GMT

In article <5890@rosie.NeXT.COM> sam_s@NeXT.com writes:
>| I just put French, German, and Kanji interfaces for BackSpace 3.0 on  
>| nova.cc.purdue.edu in the /pub/next/submissions/BackSpaceLanguages.tar.Z file.
>| 
>| Kanji requires 3.0J, and since I converted it to 3.0 from another nib myself>| I'm sure it's hard to read whether you speak Japanese or not!
>| 
>| enjoy,
>| -sam
>| 
>

If anyone is by chance interested in a Norwegian interface for Backspace,
I have one.  I haven't tested it under 3.0, but it's worked for me under
2.1 for over a year now (has it been that long?).  I would post it but I
doubt that there is _that_ much interest? Not?

Regards,
Thor
From: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Getting an ethernet connection?
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:35:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1emkkeINNjra
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: darmok.uoregon.edu

Does anyone have any information about getting an ethernet connection?   
I'm actually interested in a full feed.  Who do I contact?  How much  
does it cost?

Alternatively, how much does it cost to get a feed off someone else?   
I'm looking for a TRUE 56k connection, so it wouldn't be trivial.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-jason
______________________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, Student Programmer/Consultant| No sir, I didn't like it
       ---- University of Oregon ----       |                 -R&S
Internet:  jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu      | Star Trek:
NeXT mail: jfosback@darmok.uoregon.edu      |  The NeXT Generation...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (Alexander Hinds)
Subject: A mail reader that works over a modem without SLIP
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:44:22 GMT

Is there a mail reader ala Mailservice that I can actually use over a modem
via a tip like connection?  ie. something that will read my mailbox and let me use my next to compose and read messages stored on a remote machine?  Thanks.

--X
hinds@camis.stanford.edu


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From: burns@cc.gatech.edu (James E. Burns)
Subject: Re: su File Viewer
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Tech
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:20:17 GMT

It's a good idea to know what will happen BEFORE you unpack an unknown
archive.  I use the following little aliases to inspect things before
I "untar":

# Show the contents of a *.tar file
alias showtar	'tar vtf \!:1'
# Show the contents of a *.tar.Z file
alias showZ	'zcat \!:1 | tar vtf -'

To actually unpack:

# Unpack a *.tar file:
alias untar	'tar xvf \!:1'
# Unpack a *.tar.Z file:
alias untarZ	'zcat \!:1 | tar xvf -'


jim burns
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Subject: Re: NeXT Edu Sampler CD
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:42:08 GMT

In article <1egkgbINN9cn@gap.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark  
Adler) writes:
> 
> Well, I got mine.  It'll take me while to look what all is on it.
> The documentation with it says that it has all the NeXT modified
> GNU software, which if true is a pleasant suprise.
> 
> Mark Adler
> madler@cco.caltech.edu

There's a lot of fabulous stuff on NeXTs new CD.  One of my favorites is  
"DarkForest", in the /Utilities directory.  It shows that a program can be  
very useful, and entertaining at the same time.  The README file only  
tells you about the useful part.  When you run the code, though, there are  
lots of cute surprises.  Is this at the archives yet?  It ought to be!   
Here's the README:

By:	Garth Snyder
	garth_snyder@next.com
DarkForest allows you to easily view the sizes of entire directory  
structures.  You can also delete and compress files and directories from  
within the application, making disk usage reduction painless.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres......
.cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center
.*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771.............
.FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276...........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: cdelay@doek.uoregon.edu (Christian De Lay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 2.1 on ANY sort of transportable media?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 23:54:51 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: doek.uoregon.edu

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of 2.1?  I find myself needing to 
rebuild a hard disk, but I don't want to use 3.0 (not enough memory or money).
Is it possible to purchase 2.1 disks (CD, floppy?) from somewhere?  

I called NeXT but they don't stock them anymore (surprise).

--
cdelay@doek.uoregon.edu
NeXTmail would be a bad thing to send.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: NeXTMail Voice encoding/decoding format
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:47:17 GMT
Keywords: nextmail

I've got a couple of UNIX workstations(SUNs, DECs, Quadra w/AUX, and a NeXT) and
some PCs and MACs.  Now the problem. I want to be able to decode the voicemail
portions of NeXT mail on the SUNs and Quadras.  They both have the sound
capability to handle VoiceMail.

Now, I know that people should use the NeXT, but it doesn't have the capacity
to handle all the &#$%$ VoiceMail which users have been sending since they
were introduced to it.  I have added a 540MB drive just to handle mail.
Besides, we only have one.  It along with the AUX platform have been made into
DTP platforms which are only used occasionally.

If anyone can point me in the right direction on decoding the voice part of
NeXTMail, I'd appreciate it.

email replies would be appreciated.


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System Administrator                                        (803)-792-4969 (W)
Senior Systems Consultant                                   (803)-792-5446(FAX)
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MultiMedia Works & Video Productions ======= Teaching the world in better ways

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen)
Subject: Re: Why, Why, WHYYYY?? USE OBJECTIVE-C for IB??
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:55:47 GMT

Richard D Warner writes:
>     I'm a developer who just wants to get a product out the door, and
> I'm frustrated about having to learn a new language just to interface with
> IB.  I know you're supposed to be able to insert ANSI or C++ code into IB
> but I haven't been able to yet.  You still need to know what's going on
> with the implementation files (in Objective-C).  It's supposed to
> be "easier", but easier than what???  Why doesn't NeXT come up with a 
> version of IB written for C++?  

Since you know the story on why Objective-C in the first place (when NeXT was  
selecting only OC had dynamic binding and the C++ vs. OC race was yet to be  
run) the question is really why did NeXT not change over once C++ became the  
widely accepted language it is today and OC never became widely accepted.

First, a rumor floated around that NeXT looked at converting NeXTSTEP from OC  
to C++ and estimated they would have to suspect all software engineering for a  
long time to do the conversion. Second, providing a better C++ interface  
without converting all NeXTSTEP code to C++ makes some sense but I get the  
impression NeXT would just as soon see a third party do that work. Third, NeXT  
has started to take proactive steps to get Objective-C more accepted (e.g.,  
donation/support to FSF, strong consideration on allowing the development tools  
to be ported).

If you have already written lots of C++ that compiles stand-alone (can compile  
on normally configured NeXT development system or with public domain libraries)  
then I strongly suggest that you write a thin layer of Objective-C that fits  
just on top of your C++ codes. The layer becomes the stuff to work with in  
Interface Builder. Oh, and it takes a competent C programmer less than eight  
hours to catch onto Objective-C ... in our experience which I have heard widely  
shared.

Good luck,

Mark R. Thomsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: vrr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (veenu.r.rashid)
Subject: Location of X11R4 for 3.0
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:51:30 GMT
Followup-To: poster


Does anyone know where I can find X11R4 (mono) for 3.0?  My
version of XNeXT (from cunixf) seems to be broken.


I will summarize if there is interest.

Please email vrr@cbnewsj.att.com

Thanks very much,
Veenu

vrr@cbnewsj.att.com
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ethernet id
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:55:49 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thanatos.egr.uh.edu

In article <1ebef5INNosc@gap.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)  
writes:
=>
=>>> Try grepping through /usr/adm/messages for "Ethernet address".
=>
=>This might not work.  messages appears to have a size limit, and stuff
=>drops off of the beginning.  messages.old is the same, so it can drop
=>off of there too.  Just for fun, I grepped for "Ethernet address" on
=>every file in /usr/adm on a long-ago booted NeXT, and it wasn't there.
=>

Not entirely.  The stuff in /usr/adm is trimmed daily, weekly and monthly by  
the various scripts that are run via cron.  This helps keep the logs from  
growing indefinately.  For example, messages and syslog are trimmed daily as  
they can grow to a rather large size within a day on a busy server.  The  
messages.old is the previous day's log.

=>Mark Adler
=>madler@cco.caltech.edu

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The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ph@pencom.com (Patrick Hester)
Subject: Re: best CD-ROM
Reply-To: ph@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:46:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.002634.2847@agora.com> conway@agora.com (Mark  
Conway) writes:
> In your opinion, which CD-ROM for the NeXT has the best collection of  
> software?

I've been checking out the Monolib two disk set.
There's lots of software, documentation, examples, sources, images, etc.
Pretty much everything available at the archive servers.
So far I haven't seen any other disks, but Monolib's great.

If you're interested, contact John Kheit - kheit@hangout.rutgers.edu
He may already be getting started on Monolib 3.


Patrick Hester  ph@pencom.com  (212) 513-7777  NeXT Mail OK  =8(\/\)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: billb@nasty (Bill Burcham)
Subject: Re: Mail.app bug--beware
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:34:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.180407.8018@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang) writes:
[munch]
> What happens is that it takes the first compose window in the list of  
compose  
> windows, and replaces all the text with that of the incoming message  
from  
> Newsgrazer!!!  Even though the correct window is at the END of that  
list.   
[munch]
> So the work around is:  Don't have any compose windows under  
construction if  
> you are expecting to have another application set up a compose window  
for  
> you!!!
> 
> 	Avery Wang
> 	Rains Apt. #15a
> 	704 Campus Dr.
> 	Stanford, CA 94305
> 	Tel: +1 (415) 497-7213
> 	Fax: +1 (415) 725-8468
> 	email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu

Oh!  So that's what happened to me yesterday -- just verifying Avery's
results.  I am sending this to bugs@next.com.
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| First National Bank of Chicago | no magic to stir men's souls"    |
|    billb@fnbc.com  (NeXTmail)  |      Daniel J. Burnham           |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Mail.app bug--beware
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 18:04:07 GMT

Hi-
I'm running 3.0 Golden, NeXTstation color, 20/400+1.1GB external, though I  
think that's irrelevant.

Mail.app has a bug which is easily reproducible and VERY annoying.  When I  
have several compose windows open and use another application, such as  
NewsGrazer or whatever to set up another compose window, (such as what happens  
when I press 'reply' in NewsGrazer), then ALMOST what you expect happens.  You  
get a new compose window in Mail.app, and the appropriate text (i.e. reply  
message, etc) is set up in A compose window.  NOT THE compose window that was  
just newly created though!!!!

What happens is that it takes the first compose window in the list of compose  
windows, and replaces all the text with that of the incoming message from  
Newsgrazer!!!  Even though the correct window is at the END of that list.   
This is really annoying because I lost 2 long, important, and complicated  
email messages that way before I finally realized what was happening.

So the work around is:  Don't have any compose windows under construction if  
you are expecting to have another application set up a compose window for  
you!!!

	Avery Wang
	Rains Apt. #15a
	704 Campus Dr.
	Stanford, CA 94305
	Tel: +1 (415) 497-7213
	Fax: +1 (415) 725-8468
	email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu
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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Beethoven's 4th Symphony
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:21:37 GMT
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus


Would anyone happen to have NeXT-ready scorefiles, snds or
ensemble files of Beethoven's 4th Symphony?  Actually, on
this short notice, any Beethoven (except the 5th...) would
be accepted.  Quality is important, however.

A gauntlet has been laid down, and we are trying to pass through it.

If you have something, please send it via NeXT mail.

thanks
- Geoff
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From: ram@ramsys (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is DOTS needed when using 3.0?
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:17:07 GMT
Organization: at home

Tony Richardson writes
> I recall seeing something about 3.0 having support built-in (ala djf, DOTS,
> etc.) for non-NeXT, non-PostScript printers.  Is this true?  If not, do
> djf and DOTS work with 3.0.  I'm considering upgrading, but don't want
> to lose the ability to use my DeskJet.

djf ist usable on 3.0. either get the file
	djf_for_3.0.tar.Z from sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/submissions
or
        the same file from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in  
/pub/next/Utils/printer

Another way is just to recompile djf on 3.0 while getting the file
/usr/include/sys/table.h from a 2.1 System. This file was split for
3.0 but one part was miraculously forgotten.

cheers
	Reimer

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:30:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.000006.1888@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.080022.24667@cs.yale.edu>  
> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> > Support for 1024x768 on a 15" color display, as I imagine
> > NS486 will include, would live up to that claim of a reasonable
> > price even better.  Now when will NeXT get around to supporting
> > it for their own hardware?  Not to mention the lack of 1280x1024
> > for 21" displays...
> 
> NeXTSTEP 486 supports resolutions ranging from 600x400 to 1280x1024.

Then there will be no excuse for NeXTstep 3.1 to not do the same ;-)

--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  Is DOTS needed when using 3.0?
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Nov 92 10:40:23 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Nov15.211707.1287@ramsys.sta.sub.org> ram@ramsys (Reimer A. Mellin) writes:
>Tony Richardson writes
>> I recall seeing something about 3.0 having support built-in (ala djf, DOTS,
>> etc.) for non-NeXT, non-PostScript printers.  Is this true?	If not, do
>> djf and DOTS work with 3.0.	I'm considering upgrading, but don't want
>> to lose the ability to use my DeskJet.
>
>djf ist usable on 3.0. either get the file
>	djf_for_3.0.tar.Z from sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/submissions
>or
>	 the same file from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de in
>/pub/next/Utils/printer
>
>Another way is just to recompile djf on 3.0 while getting the file
>/usr/include/sys/table.h from a 2.1 System. This file was split for
>3.0 but one part was miraculously forgotten.
>
>cheers
>	Reimer

    I use djf with my HP500C, for black and white printing it works just
    fine!  This is under 3.0.

    NeXT doesn't really support non-postscript printers all that well, you
    have to hack the printcap.	I'm not sure why they seem to think
    everyone and his mother has (or even wants) a postscript printer when
    the output quality is the same.  Personally, I much prefer my HP.

					-Matt

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>+ 49 89 79849411
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>Aidenbachstr. 131/6, 8000 Muenchen 71,

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From: ricardo@chuy (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why, Why, WHYYYY?? USE OBJECTIVE-C for IB??
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:00:31 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Nov13.234309.10755@selway.umt.edu> cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu  
(Richard D Warner) writes:
> 
> 	I'm a developer who just wants to get a product out the door, and
> I'm frustrated about having to learn a new language just to interface  
with
> IB.  I know you're supposed to be able to insert ANSI or C++ code into  
IB
> but I haven't been able to yet.  You still need to know what's going on
> with the implementation files (in Objective-C).  It's supposed to
> be "easier", but easier than what???  Why doesn't NeXT come up with a 
> version of IB written for C++?  
> 
> 
> Rich

When I was learning IB that was the same question I had.  I did not answer  
it until I learned Objective-C and reading an article in "The Journal of  
OOP" magazine and the article is "Why I need Objective-C?".  That's  
probably going to answer all your whys.  I understand you perfectly since  
I asked myself the same question, but take the time to learn Objective-C  
you'll love it.

I love Objective-C, it's easy, simple, powerful and what's most important:  
"Thanks to Objective-C we have IB and Distributed Objects so nicely  
integrated into Objective-C.  Not possible with C++.

--
Ricardo J. Parada
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