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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:35:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.160446.25054@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gchalk@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Chalk) writes:
>
>I would like to remind everybody that is complaning that there might be
>(and most likely will be) a charge for the upgrade to OS/2 2.1
>that yesterday (1/19/93) IBM declared 4th quarted\r losses of
>over $5,000,000,000.00.....yup thats % billion dollars for
>OCT, NOV, & DEC 92!!!

The vast majority of which was related to one-time charges incurred
due to early retirement and various other downsizing moves.

>
>and remember that the new version will come w/ almost $20 worth of
>diskettes!!

Not if I download it off the net.  We're not talking about the charge
like there was for the last one -- just a media charge.

>
>IMHO...stop complaining if you want to keep getting upgrades!!

Oh, I see.  Why does this sort of reasoning -- which we're hearing
more of all the time -- start to sound like the old Microsoft "We
charge for every little bug fix because, after all, what choice do you
have?" sort of line?

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From: kevinc@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Need help selecting new laser printer (Postscript)
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:01:16 GMT

Hi all, I need some advice on buying a new laser printer.

I run a 386Dx33 lpt1/lpt2/com1.

I'm thinking of going postscript as I do a lot of printing of special
fonts and crazy attributes. I'm open to suggestions.

Cost is the most serious concern. I want the most inexpensive (yet
highest quality, of course) printer.

Question of the week :-)  do I really need Postscript - what are the
real advantages for postscript when hooked into Os/2?

Kevin
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From: halverso@staff.tc.umn.edu (Chris Halverson)
Subject: Emacs/Calc: Won't start GnuPlot
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:53:46 GMT

I've just installed the Calc package for Emacs on my OS/2 system. Calc
setup fine and installed correctly. It works fine, except that it
won't start GnuPlot correctly. A gnuplot window comes up, but just
sits there. I have to kill the gnuplot window, then emacs says that it
couldn't start a gnuplot session. I've got the gnuplot dir in my path,
but it's just not working. Has anyone gotten calc to use gnuplot
correctly? 
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From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: Re: PAS16 on ftp-os2
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:55:26 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-23-93 18:51
R > From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller)

R > This is a start, but there are lots of bugs.

Are any problems before the new drivers for MMPM/2 for DOS compatibility
solved after the MMPM/2 drivers?

Vic
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From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: Re: WINGIF under OS2 2.1 beta 
Organization: Auburn University, Alabama
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:45:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.135811.10364@mksol.dseg.ti.com> eck@s704. writes:
>I have recently loaded the 2.1 beta of OS/2. Under v 2.0 I was able to run
>WINGIF (Windows gif viewer) without any problems. Now under 2.1 beta WINGIF
>does not load gif format files (the same ones that worked under OS/2 2.0). 
>BMP files load ok. Any ideas as to what is wrong. BTW, I did format the disk
>before installing version 2.1 beta. Thanks for any help or advice,

It works under my 2.1 beta with VGA. 386-33, 8M, HPFS, no-87. Is it every 
GIF file? I tested "dice" and "pencils". I'm currently running this
seamlessly, using the "3.1 standard mode".

--Darrel Hankerson hankedr@mail.auburn.edu


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From: gus@deathstar.dell.com (Gus Campman)
Subject: Norton Commander for OS/2
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:44:30 GMT


I am a registerd user of Norton Commander for OS/2 and am happy with it to
a degree (it is a 1.0 release after all..).
Things I would like to see:

-Zip file viewing/extraction
-Gif/BMP/ACAD .DWG viewing
-Backup program??
-Assignment of extensions with  programs (for double clicking on a
datafile for quick startup)
-if a program is an OS/2 or Windows program, show a small rep. of its icon
in the file listing
-ability to start the program as an icon!!
-an OOPS command for undeleting files immediately after deleting them.
-multi-threading
-refresh of drives in background (so that you dont have to continually do
it by hand)
-make it faster (particularly the file viewer which really chugs...)

Good Product overall!




The above are the opinions of the author and the author ALONE.
From: rwyble@schunix.uucp (Richard J. Wyble)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: DeScribe & PostScript printer drivers?
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:27:30 GMT
Organization: SCHUNIX Public Access Unix for Worcester County, MA, USA
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I have a copy of DeScribe BoldGold (3.0); using an NEC Silentwriter
95, a PostScript device, OS2 2.0 GA release.

This combination appears to be rasterizing rather than downloading
fonts. It is behaving okay with the "normal" set of fonts, but not
with other Type 1 fonts. They display correctly, but are *not*
printing correctly: they appear as bit-mapped graphics = ugly.

Is this normal? Is it a function of OS/2's printer driver? Is a more
recent PostScript driver available? (And rhetorically, why would
someone design a driver in such a manner?)

My experience to date with OS/2 & printing has been with WordPerfect
5.1, both DOS and Windoze, relying upon their own resources for
printing via the null driver.


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From: tadr@doe.carleton.ca (Tom A. D. Riley)
Subject: Re: TE/2
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:43:54 GMT

In <26JAN199318192157@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:

>In article <raymond.728066819@manning>, raymond@cs.UAlberta.CA (Au Raymond Tung) writes...
>->[stuff deleted]  I finally have the program working somewhat
>->satisfactorily.  Unfortunately, after a session (ie: connect --> usage
>->--> disconnect --> Alt-X), the TE/2 window simply clears and remains
>->on the screen.  I've tried killing the window by clicking on the window
>->close icon but that has no effect.  Strangely, after five or six minutes
>->the window suddenly disappears!  I really want to get this program to 
>->work but it seems everytime I fix something, something else goes wrong.
>->Does anyone else have the same problems as I do?

I had this problem too until I put a shadow of TE/2 in a work area folder.
Now instead of closeing down TE/2, I close the work area (which also has
a command line that opens up in my /download directory). For some reason,
closing TE/2 by closing the work area folder (instead of alt-x) _always_
works for me. Any one else want to comment on this?

>	Yes, I have them under the 2.1 Beta.  Also, it takes two tries
>to hang up the phone, and If I'm running another full-screen app and switch 

This is a new one to me

>back to TE2, my cursor is gone. (I run it full-screen because of the 
>lousy slow 256 color PM drivers)  I'd love to register PMCOMM, but the 
>dialing directory is a pain. I guess we need to hope for a new version
>of PMQVT!! (I'd probably register the current version if zmodem would 
>run in the background)

>Cheers!
>LISA
Tom
From: varmint@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Samir Varma)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Running Mathematica
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:37:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Particle Physics, University of Texas
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: huey.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1jpf73INNlh1@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh) writes:

>You mean you are running Mathematica under GA not 2.1, which everyone
>said was imposible? Thanks for the info.


No, he's running the DOS version.  This runs just fine (except for printing)
under OS/2 since it's now a dpmi app.  The windows version still won't
run under GA because of the enhanced mode stuff.

Samir Varma
From: rwyble@schunix.uucp (Richard J. Wyble)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Mr. File/PM is very cool!
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:27:00 GMT
Organization: SCHUNIX Public Access Unix for Worcester County, MA, USA
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bokkie@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
: Ditto.  With this, you can run OS/2 without the WPS desktop.

What? Care to elaborate?
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From: joergs@alf.pec.co.nz (Joerg Steinke)
Subject: Re: GASP, I need undelete utility urgently!
Organization: Production Engineering (NZ) Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:33:15 GMT


In article <1j5fl5INNnt6@shelley.u.washington.edu> mhuth@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth) writes:
>Help, I've foolishly deleted a file from my HPFS disk and i can't get it back.
>I searched hobbes for an undelete utility and found phoenix...which crashes
>when attempting to undelete my missing file.  Can anyone point me to an 
>undelete utility!

sorry - couldn't find one either ... but

advice 1 :
stay well away from gamatech if you do not want to reformat your hard disk

advice 2 :
include 'SET UNDEL=....' into your config.sys to avoid future problems

Joerg
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From: bjorn@joshua.ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Mr. File/PM is very cool!
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:27:21 GMT
Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd


In article <C1IqFG.Mtt@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>, aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler) writes:
> In article <Gary.Woodman.941.728093047@anu.edu.au>, Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:
> > In article <727914810snx@w3vh.UUCP> rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem) writes:
> > 
> > >I just picked Mr. File/PM off hobbes, and am very pleased. This is
> > >just the kind of utility OS/2 needs, at least until applications are
> > >more generally WPS-aware.  Having played with it for a couple of
> > >hours, I don't really think Norton Commander is going to have much
> > >luck in the marketplace with Mr. File available as freeware. There are
> > >a number of elegant touches - drag and drop, shortcuts, etc.
> 
> One of the things that I like about WINFILE is the ability to see the whole tree
> and see the files in the other half of the window. Clicking on a directory
> in the tree updates the files section with the appropriate information. 
> 
> Other than that, it seems like a nice tool (I've only used it once - last night - 
> so my experience is limited).

It is very obvious that I've missed something big about this program. I heard
a lot about it, how it'd simplify maintaining files and in ways be better
than NC/2 (which it perhaps is, since I haven't tried it). So, a couple of
days ago I downloaded it and played some with it, and from that moment I've
wondered what it is that people see in this utility. What have I missed?
I don't find it to be easier to use than WPS itself, with it's drives objects,
and with occational switches to a 4os2 shell. Neither does it give me more
power.

   _
/Bjorn.
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Need help selecting new laser printer (Postscript)
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:17:46 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <kevinc.727736476@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> kevinc@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker) writes:
>Hi all, I need some advice on buying a new laser printer.
>I run a 386Dx33 lpt1/lpt2/com1.
>I'm thinking of going postscript as I do a lot of printing of special
>fonts and crazy attributes. I'm open to suggestions.
>Cost is the most serious concern. I want the most inexpensive (yet
>highest quality, of course) printer.
>Question of the week :-)  do I really need Postscript - what are the
>real advantages for postscript when hooked into Os/2?

Just as an anecdote, USA Flex/Comark in Bloomington, Illinois, is
selling the NEC SilentWriter 990 laser printer for $1199, which is one
great price.  It is 8 ppm, 2 MB, RISC Postscript, 200 sheet cartridge.

You have pretty much answered your own question -- if you do a lot of
printing with "special fonts and crazy attributes," Postscript isn't a
bad idea.  OS/2 handles Postscript printers particularly well, I
think.  (For example, if you drag a plain text file to the print
object, OS/2 will insert a Postscript wrapper to make sure it actually
prints correctly.)  Adobe Type Manager works well with Postscript, as
you might expect, and ATM is built into OS/2 and Win-OS/2.

It is also the de facto standard in publishing and typesetting, so you
can take your documents to a service bureau and get all kinds of
special output -- with no surprises.  (Well, fewer surprises, anyway.)

Finally, Postscript isn't all that expensive now (as I've just
demonstrated).

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From: rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <74140@cup.portal.com> Nancy_-_Hellekson@cup.portal.com writes:
>Hey, everybody!  Godd news! At the anonymous FTP address ftp-os2.nmsu.edu is 
>the beta release for OS/2 2.1.  It weighs in a t about 40Mb, but worth it, I'
>m sure.  Trouble is, all the included docs are for CDROM installation, 
>leaving us 3.5" users in the cold.  The docs refer to a file on the CDROM
>entitled DOSTEXT.TXT or somesuch, which is supposed to explain the install.
>SDoes anyone out there have that file, or more information on installing the
>beta?  Thanks.

Well, it's nice that you could join us, but as most of us have been aware of that for at least a week or two...


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From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Re: Should I use OS/2
Organization: R.I.T.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:13:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.214832.15185@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> arhodge@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
}I have a 486sx25 with a 124 meg HD and 5 megs of ram.  I plan to get up to 8 
}megs soon.  I OS/2 worth trying?  I run Windows 3.1 now in enhanced mode.
}Will it be slower or faster?  Does OS/2 support 1024x768 at 256 colors yet?
}Can I use the HPFS and still run my windows apps?  Thanks for any help..
}
}
Yes, with a 486 and 8 Mb RAM... OS/2 is definitly worth trying. Windows
3.1 may be faster at some things, but when you are running more than app
at once.. OS/2 should perform more reliably and faster. OS/2 does
support 1024x768x256 and you can run your windows software on the OS/2
desktop. About HPFS... it makes no difference for DOS/Win stuff, they
dont really know the difference.
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From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: PMFax foul-up with 2.1b
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:05:55 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD

Hello all, I am (was) using PMFax v1.16 with my OS/2 GA+SP configuration,
but recently, I tried faxing from a Windows app and found that it no
longer works.  I installed the IBM Proprinter II driver on LPT3:, and
I can print the job, and it actually gets to PMFax, but when I open up
the log and open the fax to look at it, it is a blank page rather
than what I had originally printed.  Can anyone suggest possible solutions?

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From: gtd543a@sol.crt.columbia.edu (death)
Subject: Re: Why I switched to Windows
Organization: Purgatory
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:19:13 GMT
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Bjorn Fahller (bjorn@ludd.luth.se) wrote:
: 3.0, MS Excel 3.0. Isn't Corel out for OS/2 (Honestly don't remember).

Yup - been out fer a while..
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From: miket@amc.com (Mike Taylor)
Subject: Re: 2.1b can't create DOS environment
Keywords: OS/2 2.1 Beta
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:33:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.012507.15556@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <6551@balrog.ctron.com> mikec@cardinals.ctron.com () writes:
>>Has anyone seen this with OS/2 2.1 Beta:
>>Upon boot up, the message:
>>	SYS1200:  The system cannot create the DOS environment.  The error
>>		  code is 0002.
>>Basically, something is looking for a file somewhere and it can't find it.
>>I have no idea what's missing.  I have compared my directory trees between
>>2.1b and GA and have found no *major* differences. I have also installed
>>2.1b on three different machines and got this same error message.
>>How can one run WINOS231 without at DOS environment?
>
>Are you installing OS/2 2.1 beta over an existing version of OS/2?  It
>is not recommended -- do reformat and reinstall.
>

When I get my copy of OS/2 2.1 beta (CD is in the mail) and I reformat
my OS/2 partition, I will lose all the .dll and .ini files for the apps
that I installed from OS/2 (W4W, etc) that install these files in the OS2
directory. Is there an easy way to get these apps back up anding or do I
need to reinstall these programs too?

Thanks,
Mike
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From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:02:40 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>>the main reason why might be perhaps that os/2 1.3 users got free upgrade
>>to 2.0. No reason why 2.0 users can't get 2.1 free.
>>
>Well, their are more than 2-times as many OS/2 v2 users as their were 
>OS/2 1.0-1.3 users *combined*.

>It'll probably be $50.

Somehow I can't carp (personally) about this; for $50 (Win upgrade price
last year) I have received GA and the first beta, plus the Service Pack.
Even forgetting diskettes, I view it as an extremely good deal. Plus I
shudder to think what I would have had to pay MS if they had been in
charge. 
 
Oops, forgot the $15 splurge on the Nov PDK. But then that brought its own
set of entertaining toys, so it's pretty hard to gripe. 

Certainly compared to whatever I paid for DOS5 to be bundled with the
system, then the additional for Windows, estimated total $100, I think OS2
has been extremely good value. Complaining about an additional charge for
the final 2.1 release seems churlish, especially if it is going towards
the MS coffers.
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From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:57:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.183524.15060@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.160446.25054@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gchalk@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Chalk) writes:
>>
>>I would like to remind everybody that is complaning that there might be
>>(and most likely will be) a charge for the upgrade to OS/2 2.1
>>that yesterday (1/19/93) IBM declared 4th quarted\r losses of
>>over $5,000,000,000.00.....yup thats % billion dollars for
>>OCT, NOV, & DEC 92!!!
>
>The vast majority of which was related to one-time charges incurred
>due to early retirement and various other downsizing moves.
>

If I remember the numbers correctly, this represents the net loss
for the quarter due to the restructuring charge; reducing the
capitalization for the company, and reflecting the downward pricing
of the stock as well.

One thing people forget, is that this only represents 12% of the
gross income for the quarter, and that it's the only loss for the
year as I understand it. It's not like UNISYS a few years back,
where in the first quarter they lost 25% of their NET WORTH as a
company. That's something to worry about...

 ..Paul

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