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From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: Question about the smartport...
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:31:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.184515.1985@news.columbia.edu> stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:
>	I have a simple question.  What the maximum number of 3.5"
>inch diskdrives that can be daisy chained to the built in GS
>smartport.  And how many for the superdrive card?
>
>	I was under the impression the GS smartport was limited to 2
>3.5s...  but I've heard some conflicting info recently, and just
>wanted to verify.


Somewhere in our GS reference book(s), I was able to verify that you can
chain up to four 3.5 drives to the smartport.  However, recent research
shows the following results:
	2 - 3.5 Drives (max)
	2 - 5.25 Drives (max)
	4 - UniDisk Drives (max)
	Maximum # of devices = 4.

However, there may be a chance that additional 3.5 drives (besides the
UniDisk) can be chained and recognized by ProDOS 8, it may be a limitation
of the GS/OS Appledisk3.5 drivers.

Maybe someday I'll be bored enough to try it, Lord knows we have enough
3.5 drives lying around in Assembly! :)

	Later,
		...Mike
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From: johnp@silver.lcs.mit.edu (John Palaima)
Subject: Re: Hardware Hall of Fame
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:51:38 GMT

I would like to add another.. the Echo+ card and the Alphabits card, along with the ORIGINAL orange Grappler. as well as electing the number nine graphics board one of the best apple peripherals ever made..

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From: kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Plague )
Subject: Serial --> Parallel converter
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:50:33 GMT

Does anybody know where I can get a serial to parallel converter and how much
it'd run? I know this guy who wants to run a parallel printer off a serial 
port.

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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-cajun.cts.com!jmire@cactus.org (John Mire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HCGS upgrade?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 22:48:23 -0500
Organization: ProLine [pro-cajun], Shreveport, Louisiana (318)865-6579
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Is there an upgrade available for HyperCard GS?  If so, would someone please
forward details, thanks.


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From: meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins)
Subject: Re: SoniqTracker .52 & ModZap .80
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:27:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.205040.10494@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <m0mAcoV-0000oFC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
>>I downloaded these version from AOL this morning and started playing various
>>mods with them. 
>> 
>>ST seemed (overall) to handle more mods cleanly but went wacko on StarDust
>>(which ModZap played quite nicely).
>> 
>>ModZap's chief fault at this time is still aborting the sound on some
>>instruments. Mods that demonstrate this are Enigma and SheDrivesMeCrazy. ST
>>works fine on these. 
>
>Well, even though I still feel Midisynth is the way to go, I must say that
>both ModZap.80 and ST.52 are impressive and worth it. They are, by the
>way, both much better than the main MOD player on the NeXT which seems to 
>be raved about so much by NeXT users. It's really impressive. Makes you 
>think...
>
>Anyway, ModZap.80 gets my vote as it runs fine under Appletalk. ST.52 has
>excellent sound but seems to not like Appletalk. Can this be fixed? I now
>see the value in these MOD player "battles"!
>

If anyone else can verify this, let me know!! I'll check it out in the
debugging room at KFest..they usually have ATalk setup...

-tim


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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re:      Re: System 6.0
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:42:41 GMT

In article <70664@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

[ ]
>
>>Finally, is Achiver (supplied with 6.0) reliable? I've had odd experiences
>>with it not resoring a volume to one of a lessor size. Or is this common?
>
>Are you restoring file-by-file or whole-disk?  What sort of oddness did
>you get?

I did a volume backup and then restore. I had a 30 meg partition, backed it
up( there were only 20megs on that partition) and then tried to restor it 
to the new partitioned disk. This may just be normal, but it would not 
restore it to a 25meg partion. It kept giving a checksum error. It may 
be the case that you have to restore the data to the exact size of partition,
but that seems odd as you may want to put it onto a new drive which may not     have exactly identical partion sizes.

Would an alternative be to dump everything on a partition into a folder
and do a folder( file by file) backup?
 
I did try to restor the 20 megs to an HFS 80 meg HS, but that failed
claiming the disk was damaged ( after putting everything on). Also
restoring over Appletalk usinf System 7.0 failed[ immediate crash].

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: cjs@ausom.oz.au (Cameron Silver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: a hint about sticky keyboards
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:54:29 GMT
Reply-To: cjs%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

About 4 months or so i couln't stand the keyboard any more. Besides the sticking
keys, the keys were dirty (really filthy!), so i took them all off, and cleaned
them .. dried them, and sat for 2 and a half hours putting them back on again!
I needed my //GS owners guide open so i knew where all the keys went! It was
quite an experiance!
-- 
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Laugh, and the world thinks you're an idiot!
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Is the company that produced the PFS line of software still in business ?
What are their telephone and fax numbers ?



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From: muhr@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Muhr)
Subject: Robot Odysse on PC?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:56:51 GMT

I would really love to see Robot Odyssee on my 386. Nopw that I can
have 3d monster maze, a ZX81 game on my PC, I want more!
Isn't it funny, that all those improvements to screens and resolution
did not lead to  games better than those running on 16K machines? 
Well, where is an Apple II emulator as complete as the ZX81 emu?
- Thomas
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From: gtolar@xcluud.sccsi.com (Glynne Tolar)
Subject: Re: Fast Zips
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:04:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.210031.20138@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>Ok, I just got off the phone with Zip...I was interested in knowing whether
>one could obtain just the ASIC upgrade, and install the 14MHz 65816, the
>crystal, and the faster SRAM oneself. This was in line with the suggestion
>someone made here that the gate array was bottlenecked at 12.4MHz or so.
>The word from the person I talked to:
> 
>"The gate array is the fastest thing on that board."
> 
>In other words, she says that there is no bottleneck, and no ASIC upgrade
>is needed. The gate array can go to 19MHz or so. The main problem, she says,
>is getting 15ns SRAM in a wide package (I didn't broach the question of why,
>if 15ns is needed for 14MHz, they ship 9MHz Zips with 70ns RAM).
> 
>Of course, she wasn't big on the idea of user upgrades in general, but I
>did get her to begrudgingly admit that it was possible (but will certainly
>void your 1 year warranty).
> 

OK, this is my plan of attack.  I plan to buy 15nS SRAM from Microprocessors
Unlimited ($20 a chip x 4 $80 plus s&h) and some sockets for the narrow chips
(using 14 pin machine pin gold plated stacked end to end to make 28 pin).
I could not find 28 pin sockets that are .3 in wide (300mil.).  After
installing them and testing it then I'll get the new cpu and oscilator.

Any questions?

>
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From: gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Galen Tatsuo Komatsu)
Subject: Columns for the //e?
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:54:24 GMT

	In a recent thread I recall the mention of a columns game for
8-bit //s.  It is available via FTP somewhere?  I looked, but didn't see
it anywhere at the time.

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From: usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Neat Stufz
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:23:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

i hear about all of the neat stuff out on Public Domain, but i never see any
on my end... i cannot FTP, i can only do a limited "Teleport" to a few systems
here, but i'd love to get some of the stuff advertised here....
GNU MultiTasker?]
ResRipping program
beta test material.......

i would love to get my greasy fingers on some......
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From: cshepher@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Shepherd)
Subject: KFest stuff
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:35:29 GMT


Belgo's List of Kansasfest Goodies:

Products:
     First off, Animasia 3-D by Mike Lutynski. Stayed up
all night with Mike trying to make a 3-D animation. Prob
is, on an 11-MHz GS, it still took about 3 hours to render
7 seconds of video..
     GNO! At the expo, there was Jawaid in his lovely
T-Shirt, there was Drechsau (not Frankowski!), and GNO
running on a GS and a slave Xerox terminal.
Most impressive...
     TimeLord by Chris M. (can't spell his last name) was
on display at the DreamWorld booth, stayed and chatted with
Steve and Jason for awhile..
     Out of This World (with sound and SNES version), kix
butt, with 2 secret codes.

Events:
     DYA getting stuck in the elevator, Roger Wagner
getting roasted (and a new nickname for Diz "Dishbrow"),
discovering the tunnel system in the basement that connects
the dorms (fun, fun), playing Puzznic with JoshB, hanging
out in BurgerBill's crowded dorm (how d'ya dodge the
crowds, Bill?), Furiously writing down the tech specs of
the Avatar as Bill recited them, and not getting any sleep.

     Tim Swihart (of Apple Computer) talking ominously
about the future of the //, really got me depressed. Matt
Deatherage sang for us (!) (By the way Matt, forget about
shaving my head, allright?), and I llllllike Smash TV...

People:
     Me, Dagen Brock, Jay Jennings and Bryan Pietrzak from
Softdisk, Nate Trost, the Jupiter Systems folks, Imperial
Programming (nifty demo, guys), The Enforcer and Hangtime
(now why do you folks always stick out in my mind?), John
Carmack, Bob Shofstall (look for Impasse //gs under the
Nite Owl label), Chris Thamm, the Sydney, Australia people
(thanks for the card), and the dozens of other unique
people who stayed in the dorms...

Bad News:
     The new Ethernet card won't do TCP/IP, you still need
a SuperDrive card for AE's FDHD drive, and 6.0 is the last
major software release (although minor releases, like 6.0.2
will be done).

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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Changing on-line Volumes, HD's
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:01:18 GMT

I've recently had the following problem: I had 2 hard drive, each
with 3 partitions, and each with a System on its first partition.
I'd been booting off the 2cond hard drive( the first and 2cond were
terminated). When I removed the 2cond hard drive, the computer no
longer recognized the first partition of the first hard drive. It
kept changing the name(after asking) of the 32meg partition to the
name of the floppy which I booted from. It then became an 800k
partion, although it was still 32meg's ( I could tell via another
means).
 
I thought I had the problem solved, but the same thing happened after
I had been using AppleShare and then reconfigured the system for non
Appletalk use. The message which came up on the screen was very odd with
yes, no, cancel, etc...options after which selecting any one of them 
crashed the system into the monitor. I then booted from a floppy and all
was back to normal.
 
I'm using a ROM03, HS Apple SCSI, GCC 80 meg Quantum, 4 megs+1, Appletalk'd
to a Mac+printer, System 6.0 on the GS, 7.1.1 on the Mac. Do you need to
erase some hidden configuration file after changing the peripherals of the
system? 
 
It's not a SCSI termination problem.
 
Can one safely delete the set boot CDEV? Anything that seems to fiddle with
booting always ends up causing me problems.
 
Thank's...

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu


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From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Subject: Re: Proterm 3.0 ASCII send
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 19:45:18 GMT


taob@generic.UUCP (Brian Tao) writes:

>    I've encountered a couple of odd problems with Proterm 3.0:

>2)  I can't figure this one out:  I've downloaded several large GIF's (all
>    over 300K) from different systems during the past week.  All of them
>    are corrupted at my end.  They are fine at the BBS end, so something
>    must have screwed up during transit.  None of the GIF viewers I have
>    will correctly decode the files.  However, large ShrinkIt files come
>    across uncorrupted.  What's going on here?

Are you sure the gifs are GIF87a format?  It could be they are the 
new 89a format, which would probably throw most GS convertors 
for a loop.  I don't know if there are any GS convertors which will
parse the new format or not.    

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From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: High-Speed Help Needed
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:05:58 GMT

Hi, I recently bought a BEST 14496 modem (14400/9600 fax send/receive,
MNP 5 and v.42 bis) and I CAN'T GET IT TO WORK on my IIGS!!

The situation is this:

	I can run ProTerm 2.2 and TeleComm PERFECTLY on a SmartLink 2400
MNP 5 modem.  But the moment I change the modems, I'm still using the
same modem cable, phone cable and even power cable, weird things started
happening.  ProTerm 2.2 can dial to the boards but after the title
screen, when they asked for my FIRST name, whatever I type creates no
response.  The SD light in the modem is flashing but it's either not
sending the characters across or not receiving any response from the
other side.  Also, I can't see what I'm typing, even with ECHO ON!
TeleComm produces the same problem.

	The BEST modem IS WORKING because I have tested and used it on
an IBM PC (yucks!).  The IIGS modem port settings are all set to default
(I've also tried setting the port speed to 9600 and 19200).  I select
Hayes Compatible 2400 for modem setting in ProTerm 2.2.

	So what's wrong here?!!  Don't tell me the IIGS is too slow to
support 14400 bps??!  I hate calling from the IBM PC but current
situation leaves me no choice.  BTW, I don't even have to issue any
special AT command to the modem from the PC; I just use the default init
string for a Hayes 2400 modem!

Would really, really appreciate it if some telecommunications expert
would offer any advice/suggestions/comments on how to get the BEST modem
to work or to clarify that the IIGS cannot support that fast a baud
rate ---> that means my modem goes to the PC....

- DOTW - :)

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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Shareware collection agency?
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:13:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.202133.103341@zeus.calpoly.edu> carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt) writes:
>I think the Shareware collection agency is a great idea. I personally
>would consider registering stuff like GSSymbolix or SoundSmith or the
>programs coming out of Australia if I had a way of doing so on this
>continent. I'm a little leary of sending $$ of any sort overseas.

GSymbolix is not shareware. In any case I am opposed to a collection agency
for shareware, although the idea has some merit. The administration of
this would be a nightmare. Moreover, many people write shareware for practice,
fun, etc...and do not intend of continuing support for a product.

The GS will never be a big ticket item and that's good. On the other hand,
should the Avatar pan out then many things could happen. That would be
a very graceful way for Apple to partially bow out of the GS world.

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: FORSALE: Laser 128 System, $300!
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:31:47 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
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From: Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Need Edmonton connection
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:29:05 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

YES! I'm finally back in front of my GS after five weeks in Edmonton, and
Mindlink has been kind enough to delete both Comp.Binaries.Apple2 and
Comp.Sys.Apple2 from their system (reason was because they delete any
message groups that haven't been read in three weeks, which means I'm the
only one) but I made them put em back on line.  Now a request, it looks
like I'm going to be moving to Edmonton soon and this time I'm gonna be
hauling my GS with me (and I do mean haul), I would like to know what
systems out there will allow me to access both Comp.Binaries and Comp.Sys
groups.  I need phone numbers names and prices.  Thank you very much for
replying.

Herbert Fung                              Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca
Mindlink!
British Columbia, Canada

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From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: ZipGS upgrades
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:   upgrade, $$$, what?
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:55:00 GMT


I went ahead and called Zip Technologies yesterday to confirm the messages
regarding the upgrades I read on here....Sure enough, one can send their Zip
GS in for an upgrade to 12 or 14 MHz...Apparently, us Zip GS 8MHz people
weren't informed of this upgrade, as the 9 and 10 MHz Zip users were...

Anyway, the lady who answered the phone (I sincerely felt I had woken her up
with my phone call) said that the upgrade was only effective for 30 days. It
seems they are testing the initial response for the upgrade. The price for a
brand new Zip GS running 14 MHz is roughly $650.00 + shipping, while the
upgrade for others (without 64 K cache) is $400 (includes the 64 K cache)......

I don't think I'll be upgrading at those prices.... :(

Krishna


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From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Clock for Apple //e wanted.
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:48:07 GMT

In article <l7bhs8INN29v@sal-sun13.usc.edu> milanp@sal-sun13.usc.edu (Milan G. Patel) writes:
>
>I am looking for a clock for my Apple //e.  I would really
>
>Thanks.
>

If you want a new clock, check out the SMT No-Slot Clock. It is a chip
which goes into a ROM chip holder on your motherboard which then holds
the original ROM chip "piggyback".  They've been sold for several years
now and although I've never had one I've heard very good things about
them!  They are inexpensive too.  About $30 I believe.  Check out the
TMS Peripherals ad in Incider or the Quality Computers ad.

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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Bilestoad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:29:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.155734.9934@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> ejohnson@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric E Johnson) writes:
>In <+wdmzp_.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
>
>>Wait a minute, he was robbed by the publisher. He did not profit from
>>the copy's that were -sold-. This is not a piracy issue.
>
>When I talked with Marc via email, he said that there were only about
>1600 copies sold.  But, I would be willing to bet that there were over
>20,000 copies out there.  I know, I had one of them.  I felt so guilty
>about it, that I sent him a check for pirating the game.  I suggest
>others do the same.  

	I second the motion.  I sent him a check as well.

>
>>As for the maps, unless they were published in the manual (which I rather
>>doubt), then they are the creations of whomever compiled them, and they
>>do have the right to post them. What good are the maps without the game?
>
>I got all the way to the uncharted islands without the maps...

	Yeah, maps would take half the fun out of it - no uncertainty, no 
searching for the right disk...

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