From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: NCSU: COUNTDOWN TO ORANGE BOWL, THRASHES WAKE 42-24!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:47:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.055457.27107@ncsu.edu> jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov22.035445.29594@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov22.005131.18955@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  This has been a stellar day for all Wolfpack fans. After leading in the
>>> game 35-0 at one point, Sheridan was nice, and put in our 2nd stringers...
>>> Thsi means that an Orange Bowl bid is very possible with these factors:
>>>>
>>> 1. Miami beats Syracuse.. (done 16-10)
>>> 2. Alabama loses to Auburn or Florida
>>> 
>>>
>>> Then:
>>>
>>> Miami vs. Florida State, Sugar Bowl
>
>>No way this matchup will take place... The SEC champ is an automatic
>>choice for sugar bowl...
>
>Correct.  Miami vs. FSU would be in the Fiesta Bowl
>
>>> Texas A&M vs. Alabama, Cotton Bowl
>>> Washington vs. Michigan, Rose Bowl
>>> Nebraska vs. N.C. State, Orange Bowl
>
> And you could probably add Florida vs. Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl
>
>>Though it is very possible that Nebraska goes to OB, it is not yet
>>guarenteed.. They have to win the last two games and one of them is
>>against Oklahoma!
>
>>Also, there are teams like Notre dame, USC, Stanford, Syracuse etc who might
>>be looked ahead of ACC runner up NC State. These teams should bring in more
>>fans than NC State.
>
>He doesn't know Wolfpack fans very well, does he?

Believe me, I do. Anyways, they don't have the same national image of Notre Dame
or USC or even Syracuse.

>>>Very few teams want to say no to a $4.5 mil payoff!
>
>>Also, ACC isn't strong enough for the second team to go to OB!
>
>Sorry to bust your bubble here, but the ACC and PAC-10 are the 2 strongest
>conferences in division I-A football.  The only conference with a higher non-
>conference winning percentage than the ACC is the PAC-10, and that one is 
>*very* close.  The second place team in the ACC is probably much *MORE* 
>deserving of a Tier 1 Bowl bid than, say, the second place Big 8 or Big East
>teams.

ACC has very high winning percentage because of the teams they play for
out of conf games. ILet me remind you of some of these games.. 3 of those
wins came from Virginia... they beat up Navy, William and Mary, and Virginia
Tech (the most creampuff out-of-conf schedule I have seen). FSU beat up
anothert powerhouse Tulane. Clemson beat up Ball State. NC State? Virginia
Tech, Appl State (?), In fact, I don't think ACC played anyone good other
Penn State and Miami (lost both, one badly!).
Obviously, if every team plays such cream-puff schedule, you'd get a
pretty good out of conf record.

PAC10 undoubtedly played a much tougher out of confernce schedule. Wins
include Nebraska, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Kansas. Losses to Miami ( closer
than FSU ), Nebraska, TAMU... 

Big East, losses against Notre dame, Ohio State. Win against Penn State.

Even Big 10 has pretty good games this year... Ohio State beat Syracuse..
Michigan tied ND. The losses they suffered (esp Iowa) are at the hands of
Miami, Colorado, both top ten teams at present. Obviously, when you have
tough out of conf schedule, you are bound to lose more.

So, take out FSU, you have a very mediocre conference.

>>Njan
>
>*  Joseph A. Greathouse            *  All opinions are solely mine.      *  

Njan
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