From: mcollins@db.novell.com (Marty Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell/client/NATIVE IP
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:45:56 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
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lbartz@indy6.irs.gov (Larry S. Bartz) writes:
: Subject: Novell/client/NATIVE IP
: Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
: Organization:  My Own Little Dream World, ask my wife!
: Summary:  OST article hints. I want details. Let's demonstrate demand.
: Keywords:  IP, IPX, choice, open, heterogenous, UNIX-tm
: 
: In "Unix-NetWare Connection" in _Open Systems Today_ (Sep 14 '92)
: Paul Kapustka wrote:
: > [paraphrased heavily]
: > "...an NFS client package for NetWare 3.11 servers, will allow
: > NetWare clients to access files on Unix servers and will ship before
: > the end of the year..."
: > "...a package that will provide native NetWare client support over
: > TCP/IP, is slated to ship by spring of 1993...will be available...
: > for..3.11 and higher."
: 
: I've been watching my other trade rags and mags for more details, but
: haven't seen any. Did I miss a discussion of this issue in these
: newsgroups?

Nothing has been discussed and per most Novell products nothing is
announced or discussed until products are close to ship time.

: 
: Mr. Kapustka's article seems to hint that Novell doesn't anticipate
: much demand for these products. A lack of fanfare in other media makes
: me wonder: Is Novell floating a trial ballon with this "announcement"?
: 
: I certainly hope this announcement isn't vaporous. I asked a
: significantly-more-experienced-Noveller what he thought of this news,
: and he said, "Oh sure. They've hinted that lots of times. It'll
: never happen."
: 
: These capabilities would enhance our Novell's viability significantly
: as we proceed to LAN-WAN-LAN support of a heterogenous Novell/UNIX
: environment. Think of the administrative overhead and confusion which
: would be saved if each workstation/client had only one (IP) address
: as opposed to two (IP & IPX). Howzabout the expense and overhead of
: routing one protocol instead of two over the WAN? I'm thinkin' there's
: another golden opportunity for savings; in dollars, performance over-
: head, and twisted brain cells.
: 
: If it's not too late, Novell, I'd really appreciate at least a
: client-side implementation of bootp. If you don't implement the
: host bootp server side, that's okay by me for now. I have UNIX boxes
: for that. The bootp protocol saves so much in terms of individual client
: configuration, and offers so much in terms of centralized management and 
: control, I consider it a critical feature.
: 
: In "Why TCP/IP Still Has The Edge" in _DATAMATION_ (October 1 '92)
: Ned Snell wrote:
: > [some consultant] "suggests that Novell's TCP/IP offerings may be
: > intentionally lackluster in order to make IPX look better: 'I bet
: > you'll find Novell's heart's not in it,' he says."
: 
: I certainly have no reason to expect this to be true, and hope sincerely
: that Novell will refute this position, then vigorously pursue the "open"
: direction indicated here. It can only make them stronger.

Check out the MultiProtocolRouter v2.0 TCPIP implementation.

: 
: Okay, newsgroupies, that's my two cents. Anyone else care to make a little
: noise over this?
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: #  Larry Bartz                                                     |
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   Marty Collins
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