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From: jfe@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: graphics
Organization: The Loyal Taxpayers
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:21:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.2756.2960@dosgate> "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com> writes:
[stuff about the future of the movie industry deleted]

Robert, has the cold weather affected your brain so much?  :)  I don't know
just how much computer graphics will advance in 10-15 years, and I haven't
seen Babylon 5 or Space Rangers.  But I have seen Time Trax, and the first
thing I said was, "That's so cheesy."  Call me old fashioned, but I prefer
the hand-made models to a computer generated image any time.  And as for
mixing computer animation with voice synthesizers, well, with that maybe
you can churn out movies like Highlander 2, but no way in hell you can 
make movies like Howard's End, A Few Good Men or (ObSF) 2001.  You know, 
the movies that require the actors to act...unless you learn how to program
personalities and emotions, of course.


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From: tfish@world.std.com (Tex Fish)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Movies, Part I
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:47:22 GMT

In article <schumach.728013738@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>In <2B64389D@ssd0.laafb.af.mil> KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>
>>Groundhog Day
>>Bill Murray, Andie McDowell and Chris Elliott get together for director
>>Harold Ramis in this romantic comedy.  Murray's an ego-driven TV weatherman
>>in Punxsatawney, Pennsylvania who relives February 2 over and over.
>
>Now, dang it, who wrote a short story with this theme over 20 years ago?
>Guy gets stuck reliving the same day until he manages to alter his
>routine enough, somehow...

	Hey, yeah!  I remember that story!  It was about the best day of
his life, but I can't for the life of me remember the title or the authro.
 It was in the Cambell era, I think.

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: ALIEN a directors cut?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:00:09 GMT
Organization: Mr. Lazlo's Temple Of The Mighty Rude-Boy Skank
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MOLOND@cast10.st.it writes:

> Does anybody know if there are plans for a directors cut of ALIEN I?

The release version *is* the director's cut; Ridley Scott had the
opportunity to restore several deleted sequences for the recent "Special
Edition" laserdisc release here in the states, but declined.  What Scott
cut from the final version of the film, he cut by choice -- unlike Jim
Cameron, who had to delete footage from 'Aliens' and 'The Abyss' in order
to deliver the films at the 2:20 running time his contract demanded.  (Quite
a bit of unseen footage from 'Alien' turns up in the Special Edition's
supplementary section, though.)

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Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: sl7sg@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Use The Dark Side, Luke! (Was: Re: Who killed SF???)
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:11:46 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

> 
> If they ever did the first trilogy, we might find out?!!!
> 
> Has anybody seen or heard what the first trilogy is really about?
> 

	#1, I read in Lucasfilm Magazine, about 2 years ago, that yes, they
are doing the first, and third trologies (basically all of them-note, the third
trilogy is *not* to be confused with the latest starwars novels by another
author, these are totally unconnected).  They will release the first film, in
the first series, on the 20 year aniversary of starwars 4 (which is, I think,
sometime in 1996).  After that, all of the other films will follow, on the same
release dates.
	#2, the first trilogy is about yoda, obiwan, anikan skywalker (? can't
remember the name, aka darth vader).  And palpatine, as he destroyes the old
republic, and crushes the jedi's, obviously by swinging skywalker to the
darkside.

		-Lynx
		Brandon
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Subject: Re:  Aliens vs. Predators?
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:54:12 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <14212@ecs.soton.ac.uk> ajl@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Lewis AJ) writes:
>In <1993Jan12.173706.1@vax1.umkc.edu> kgassner@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>>> "Alien's vs. Predator will be battling its way into your theatre screens
>>> sometime in 1994,
>
>>And what's to be expected of this movie?
>Great things - IF it lives up to the comic mini-series, which will be
>difficult. You can buy the whole series in one volume - I'd recommend it.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, it won't be based on the comic, but since
it's being co-produced by Dark Horse, it should live up to their standards.

>Anyone know anything about the director/cast?

The only word so far is that Roland Emmerich "is currently attached as
director".  Since both of his two SF movies so far sucked toxic waste
("Moon 44" and "Universal Soldier"), let's hope AVP imitates A3 in going
through at least one change of director...

My source is the October '92 issue of DH's "Aliens" magazine (the British
edition, which I gather is completely different to the US one).

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From: Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Upcoming Movies, Par
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 25 Jan 93  16:43:04

U> Friday the 13th: Jason Goes to Hell
U> (also called Jason Goes to Hell: the Final Friday)
U> Series originator Sean S Cunningham returns to produce the next segment
U> of
U> this nearly annual slash fest.  Kane Hodder stars as Jason for director
U> Adam Marcus.

By the way, I have been told by a very reliable source that this film
will contain a scene which will hint at an upcoming FREDDY VS. JASON
film.

 * Q-Blue v0.7 *
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: solaris questions
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:19:49 EST

Hi Jan,

-> to B&W vs. color (besides the obvious ones like TV playbacks).
-> Tarkovski was very adamant about the notion of art as a tool to
-> communicate directly to the soul and anything that exercises and
-> entertains the mind for its own sake is almost always irrelevant and
-> corrupts the final product.

It's even more interesting to know that Stanislav Lem in a long
interview (about 1988) expressed his complete dissatisfaction & utter
hatred about Tarkovsky's version of Solaris. According to Lem, Tarkovsky
took an intellectual story, & stuffed it full with `his Russian
stereotypes of motherland, mother & big crying heart'. No offense, but
that's almost precisely what Lem said (though I'm quoting from memory,
of course...).

So, I guess Tarkovsky may have succeeded in communicating directly to
the soul, without giving `any execise to the mind', but it doesn't mean
that his message wasn't lame...

Take care

Robert
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From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Subject: Re: Day the Earth Caught Fire
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:00:00 GMT

the point that most got to me in the movie was at the very, very, end.

**spolier alert**
**spoiler alert**







**spoiler**




**spoiler**


the final scenes, in which they are counting down to the explosions that
will hopefully reset teh orbit of the Earth, etc.

We cut to the very quiet newsroom (most of the "action" centers around a
reporter's efforts to figure out what's happening) and we cutr through the
editing area, and over to the printing presses with the type all ready to
run (remember, this is 1955).

and there we see it!  the headline we've been hoping for, "Earth saved" 

and we breathe a sigh of relief.

BUT HERE COMES THE ZINGER LINE:

the camera continues moving, and we see there is a second press, this one
ready to roll, with the headline: "bombs fail, earth doomed."


dannyb@panix.com
 
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From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Movies, Part I
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:02:18 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <2B64389D@ssd0.laafb.af.mil> KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:

>Groundhog Day
>Bill Murray, Andie McDowell and Chris Elliott get together for director
>Harold Ramis in this romantic comedy.  Murray's an ego-driven TV weatherman
>in Punxsatawney, Pennsylvania who relives February 2 over and over.

Now, dang it, who wrote a short story with this theme over 20 years ago?
Guy gets stuck reliving the same day until he manages to alter his
routine enough, somehow...
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Godzilla Movies
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:31:58 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

Rating the Godzilla Movies

All of the talk about Godzilla movies in the last couple of weeks got 
me interested in rating the films.  Below are my ratings for the 
films, on a scale of 1 to 10, with the best of the bunch given a 10 
and the worst a 1.  It's intereseting to note how the series
deteriorated as they decided to change the lead character from
Godzilla the monster to Godzilla the superhero.

Godzilla                          10
Gigantis, the Fire Monster         7
Rodan                              7
The Mysterians                     6
Mothra                             8
King Kong vs. Godzilla             5
Godzilla vs. Mothra                8
Ghidrah, The Three-Headed Monster  7
Monster Zero                       5
Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster       3
King Kong Escapes                  3
Son of Godzilla                    1
Destroy All Monsters               6
Godzilla's Revenge                 1
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster      2
Godzilla on Monster Island         2
Godzilla vs. Megalon               2
   [I haven't been able to sit all the way through either of the
    Mechagodzilla films, so I won't rate those.]
Godzilla 1985                      5
Godzilla vs. Biolante              6


Two films in the above deserve special notes: Gigantis and
King Kong vs. Godzilla.  Both suffer from over-Americanization:
for example, the soundtracks sound like those from a bad
1950s SF movie.  Gigantis, with a better soundtrack (and without
the renaming of the monster) may have been somewhat better.
King Kong vs. Godzilla might have been at least a tad better if
it had kept its original Akira Ifukube soundtrack. (I'm fond
of Ifukube's music, and think it adds a lot to the feel of
the better Godzilla films.)

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: mc7f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael P Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Godzilla Movies
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:16:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EfNT2F200iV0I9EOUm
Organization: Sophomore, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm just curious why '85 got such a low rating.  After all, it is a
return to the "Godzilla as a villain" theme. Admittedly, it wasn't the
original, but it was definitely better that a 5, and vs. Biollante.
From: KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Upcoming Movies, part IV
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:59:00 GMT


SF-themed movies scheduled (but not guaranteed) to be released Fall/Christmas
of 1993.

The Addams Family 2
Anjelica Huston, Raul Julia, Christopher Lloyd and directory Barry
Sonnefield return.

Cyborg II: Glass Shadow
This sequel to the 1989 van Damme film stars Jack Palance, Elias Koteas
and Billy Drago.  Michael Schroeder directs.

Demolition Man
Maverick cop Sylvester Stallone and villain Wesley Snipes are cryogenically
frozen and packed away for their respective crimes.  Years later, Snipes is
thawed out and goes on a murderous rampage.  Stallone is then revived, for
he's the only guy who can stop Snipes.  Marco Brambilla directs.

Meltdown
When a terrorist group seizes a nuclear power plant and initiates a meltdown,
ex-commando Dolph Lundgren is the only one who can save millions.  Yves
Simoneau directs a screenplay co-written by John Carpenter.

The Nightmare Before Christmas
Tim Burton returns to animation in this twisted story of a Halloween Town
ghoul who inadvertantly ends up in Christmas Town.  After kidnapping Santa
Claus, our anti-hero is off on his skeleton-reindeered sleigh to distribute
spiders, bats and busted toys to all the little ones.

The Nutcracker
[Yes, there are fantasy elements in this!]
Macaulay Culkin plays the Nutcracker prince in a production by the New York
City Ballet [I wonder if M.C. can dance?].  Dirty Dancing's Emile Ardolino
directs.  Peter Martins creates the staging.

Philadelphia Experiment 2: Flight of the Phoenix
When Nazi Germany wins World War II by virtue of a time-space glitch, the
world is thrown into a hellish state.  Brad Johnson and Courtney Cox co-star.
Directed by Stephen Cornwell.

Return of the Living Dead III
When his girlfriend is killed in a motorcycle accident, Curt decides to
bring her back to life.  J Trevor Edmund stars.

Wayne's World II
[OK, so there's no SF in it.  At least I didn't include the Beverly
Hillbillies movie in this list!]
Producer Lorne Michaels directs Mike Myers and Dana Carvey.

We're Back
The children's book depicting dinosaurs in modern-day New York City comes to
animated life.  Voices by Walter Cronkite, John Goodman, John Malkovich,
Julia Child [!] and Jay Leno.  Produced by Steven Spielberg.

Wolf
The tale of a man's slow transformation into a wolf after being bitten by
one.  Jack Nicholson metamorphoses while Michelle Pfeiffer cares for him.
Mike Nichols directs.

Rick Kitchen
kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil


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From: chandler@maths.tcd.ie (Ross Chandler)
Subject: Re: Terminator 3: Any word?
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:28:06 GMT

kash1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz(Kemp Ashby) writes:

>Don't forget, a company as large as Cyberdyne would be very likely to keep
>off-site backups of all important software, so the chip and the arm may have
>been lost, but thats probably about it.

>							Kemp

Point was already made a few months ago.
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From: gschlesi@scott.skidmore.edu (Christopher Robin)
Subject: Re: robot
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:12:52 GMT

Nope, sounds far from 2010 to me.  I think I'd read something like
that in a book called something like _Code of the Lifemaker_ the word
life is what I'm unsure of, it could be robotmaker or anything else.
Somehow I never finished the book, so I can't remember the author or
much about the book at all.

			-C.R.
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From: geirj@hsr.no (Geir Friestad)
Subject: Movie one-liners wanted + funny stuff from Aliens
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:41:15 GMT

Not long before Xmas there were a lot of favorite one-liners from movies
posted here. Someone volunteered to collect one-liners and post them right
after the Xmas-break.  Well, I haven't seen'em, so if someone would care to
mail them to me, I'd be grateful.

Also, here's a good one from "Aliens":

You don't see this joke the movie (unless you've got a fantastic pair of eyes),
but it's explained on the documentary LD which comes with the collector's
edition of the film.

The two Marine dropships had their own names and logos:

The primary dropship was called BUG STOMPER, and underneath the name the
legend "We endanger species".

The secondary dropship was called SMART ASS, and carried the legend "We aim by
P.F.M". PFM means Pure Fucking Magic.

I liked those! :)

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"Ah, this SEXY SOUND! This THROATY ROAR!"  - Leona, about her tank Bonaparte
From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:18:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Use The Dark Side, Luke! (Was: Re: Who killed SF???)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies


>>How would you feel if in the end of a Sci-Fi movie like "Return of the
>>Jedi" Luke joined the Empire and wiped out the Alliance.
>>It would make for a stupid series.
>


Actually, the trilogy before where Star Wars begins probably does this, but 
with Darth Vader rather than Luke.  I imagine in the beginning that Darth
Vader was a "good guy", but then he began hunting down the Jedi...
"He betrayed and murdered your father."

If they ever did the first trilogy, we might find out?!!!

Has anybody seen or heard what the first trilogy is really about?


Leslie
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Trenchcoats (was Re: Highlander III)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:05:51 GMT

cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ) writes:

>>LJC
>>-- 
>>Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
>>tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
>>Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
>>LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)
>Cute. Net. trenchcoat brigade. Can anybody join or is there some kind of
>secret password?

Yes.
Now you get to decide what that means.



LJC
-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)
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Subject: Re: Terminator 3: Any word?
From: kash1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz(Kemp Ashby)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:05:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

Don't forget, a company as large as Cyberdyne would be very likely to keep
off-site backups of all important software, so the chip and the arm may have
been lost, but thats probably about it.

							Kemp
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Godzilla Movies
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <EfNT2F200iV0I9EOUm@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
> I'm just curious why '85 got such a low rating.  After all, it is a
> return to the "Godzilla as a villain" theme. Admittedly, it wasn't  
the
> original, but it was definitely better that a 5, and vs. Biollante.

I thought it was better than the half a dozen or so movies
that preceded it (which is why I gave it a 5 and gave movies
like Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster etc. 1s and 2s). However,
I don't think it was very good. It was a major dissapointment.
The pacing was off (it plodded along) and it was filled with
really DUMB things. Godzilla being lured away by bird calls
was downright idiotic.  And the hand ringing when Godzilla fell
into the volcano--bah!  And Raymond Burr, who was passable in the
American version of the original, was a pompous ass throughout
the movie.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: chris_russo@gateway.qm.apple.com (Christopher Russo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator 3: Any word?
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:09:46 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <goudswaa.727409585@sfu.ca> Peter Goudswaard, 
goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca writes:
>Skynet could still happen, from an arm??????  It was the chip that made
>Skynet come into sentience, not an arm.

This isn't ridiculous.  There could very easily be a chip or two in the arm 
itsself.

Something like that wouldn't be too much of a stretch.  I shudder to think of 
what they MIGHT give as an excuse for the formation of Skynet.  Scifi movies 
tend to take a few too many liberties in my opinion.

-- Christopher Russo
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies,rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: UNMADE GODZILLA FILMS
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:28:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan25.092251.10543@ac.dal.ca>, 01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:

> This may not count, but a long time ago (about 8 years I guess), there was
> a skit put on by either "Saturday Night Live" or "SCTV",called "Kramer vs.
> Kramer vs. Godzilla". I have no idea how you'd get a copy of it.

On the recent (New Year's Eve) TV special about the heavy metal group Spinal Tap
(See the movie _This Is Spinal Tap_ if you haven't...trust me, it's great)
the director Marti Debergi (Rob Reiner) talked about after filming the 
famous Rockumentary (_TIST_) he went on to work on the above mentioned
_Kramer vs. Kramer vs. Godzilla_.  He gave quite a graphic and gripping 
explanation of his vision of the film.  Fascinating stuff.  Destined to 
become a cult classic.

Greg Bole                          "I always wanted to be an orphan.  I could 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          have, if it wasn't for my parents."
                                         Gary Oldman in _Prick Up Your Ears_
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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies,rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: UNMADE GODZILLA FILMS
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:39:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

R. S. Statsinger (robert@aero.org) wrote:
> In article <1993Jan21.182117.14072@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Mark B. writes:
> |
> |COOL LIST, DAVID! 
> |
> |But what about "MY DINNER WITH GODZILLA" featuring the 
> |big scaley guy squaring off with a gigantic Wallace Shawn? 
> |
> 
> For the upcoming American Godzilla film, someone MUST get
> through to Tri-Star and sell them on the idea of Godzilla
> arising from the sea in Ventura County, and invading a Grateful
> Dead concert at the Fairgrounds. Ten to one the movie-goers
> would love it, and twenty to one that the band would love
> it as well.
> 
> 			R.S.

...and five-to-one on half of the crowd at the concert would be too stoned
to notice...

Pete
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