HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Is it possible to put WB 3.0 > 8 Colors ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:58:29 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <1jjq2iINN9a9@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, stinerkt@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kevin T Stiner) writes:

 >      The palette requester is one of my biggest gripes about the a4000.   
 > The developers spent so much time on the color wheel, they forgot to give  
 > us a large amount of colors to use!  My solution to this problem: Just use  
 > the palette requester from 2.0!  I put this palette in sys:bin/ and then  
 > had it load through the user-startup.  All the computer needs is to see  
 > this palette once on the screen and the workbench colors change to the  
 > ones specified on 2.0.  This allows me to use colorful McVey Icons (either  
 > 12 or 16 colors, I can't remember) on my WB and impress all the lowly PC  
 > users around me.  I still can't get more colors for things like window  
 > boarders but those icons are REALLY great!
 >      I think we should all mass mail C= and ask them to SACK the people  
 > responsible for this outrage!

Uh, excuse me for bein' a mere mortal with 2.0 an' all, but if you want to change
the # of coloUrs, you go into the Screenmode prefs...  Just a thought...

 > stinerkt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu  |an ideal of reason but of

-Eyvind

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From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 3D-software anywhere ? (Prgs, pics, rout
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:44:07 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

In article <1C5908FBMK@tron.gun.de> m_krok@tron.gun.de (Matthias Krok) writes:
>Hello !
>
>I`m looking for any kind of software (not only programs, also pictures, or
>anything) usable with one of these red/green-3D-glasses. (Maybe red/blue).
>
>I heard sth. about a breaout-version for red/blue-glasses and about a pictures
>called "hawkeye" usable by red/green-glasses... where can I find that suff or
>anymore ??
>

  Psygnosis' game, Air Support, uses the red-green glasses for 3-D vectors.
Also, in an older issue of AmigaShopper they had an article on how to draw
red-blue 3-D pics and how to make your own flitered glasses.
  

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
Subject: Re: Icons
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:26:10 GMT

schu1545@nova (schuler bryan li) writes:

>	Can anybody help me!  I've had WB 2.04 for about 3 months now and I
>	would like to boost the Workbench screen up to 8 or 16 colors, but
>	it would be worthless because I have no color Icons and it would
>	take me forever converting all of mine. 

>	Does anybody know of a batch of color icons that I could download
>	and use?

Before you go through all the work of redoing your icons, I suggest you
try running with 16 colors for a few weeks.  The additional time required 
to do such common things as get WordPerfect's file requesters open was
*VERY* annoying on my A3000 w/1960 in noninterlaced mode.  And watching 
a big directory command scroll in a CLI window was absolutely painful!

I couldn't take it - I dropped back to 4 colors for workbench.
-- 

	Mike Bandy
	bandy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
	Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Subject: Re: 32bit versions of wb3 ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:35:54 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

cs_e445@king.ac.uk (Vlod Kalicun) writes:

>Hi Netters,
>Does anyone know why C= don't make specific version of Workbench for specific
>chips.??
>What I mean is compile WB (presume in C) with flags, so 68020/68040 instructions
>can be used.
>Wouldn't WB/and its other applications run faster, as the later chips will
>have better instructions??

Since the Kickstart version for A3000, C= has compiled a separate version
of Kick for different machines.

>I relize that this wouldn't work on a stock 68000, but I don't see any real
>cost in doing this. Amigas generally come with WB so, if I upgrade to a 
>4000, then I get a faster version of WB.
>Or is the speed increase minimal and a waste of time.. ??

68020 and higher add several new addressing modes and a few new instructions
but they don't really help that much.

  Jukka Marin

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From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: to be or not to be
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:08:28 EST


HC>I will post Fred's address here later today. All donations should be sent
HC>directly to him.

HC>I would also suggets that anyone that is obtaining the disks through a
HC>redistributor (be it on floppy, CD ROM or whatever) ask if the disks are
HC>obtianed directly from Fred Fish.  If not a polite suggestion to the provider
HC>that he/she should think about obtaining the disks via subscription might go
HC>a long way toward solving some of Fred current concerns.  I believe many of
HC>the larger redistributors do subscribe already, and I as publisher of the
HC>collection on CD ROM would not be the least bit offended by such a question
HC>or suggestion. If a redistributor is not obtaining the disks from Fred they
HC>may just have never considered the issues.

How much is a subscription from Fred Fish and where can one send away for it.
It would be a lot easier getting the disks in the mail instead of having to
download them all the time!

          robert.buonincontro&canrem.com
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From: ajlmvoer@cs.ruu.nl (Tonio Voerman)
Subject: final sampler
Summary: need held with final sampler
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:46:45 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: finalsampler, sampler, sampling


Hi Everybody

Already a long time ago I bought a sampler named 'FINAL SAMPLER'. I don't use
it that often, but it is doing a real fine job. However there is one thing
that irritates me: with some programs you have to pretend to sample in stereo
and waiste half the memory. This is because the final sampler is a monosampler
and so only one of the two channels is used. The other is useless as it
samples always values of -128.
The documentation says that if I buy Audiomaster from Aegis I will also have
this problem. However there is a simple patch to this problem. It is
documented in 68000'er number january 1988 pg 108. As you'll understand I
don't have that magazine, yet I would like to have that little software
modification in case I buy Audiomaster.

Question: Anybody who has that modification ??

If you have it, then please respond.
Thanks in advance.
Tonio
From: steffan@bitblit.rhein-main.de (Stefan Heinen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Simulate keypad on A600?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:01:09 MET
Organization: Crazy Colors of Retina

In article <1993Jan23.214056.2174@msus1.msus.edu> jennen@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (Steve Jennen) writes:
> Is there a program available that will simulate the keypad on my Amiga
> 600?  I have a program that requires the use of the keypad, and I don't
> have a keypad on my Amiga!  :)


the program TEN emulates the keypad on the A600. it is usefull for
programms as Airbus A320 a.s.o..

by
	Steffan
From: ma9tn@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (T Nettleship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: a2020? aga-based a200
Keywords: amiga a2200
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:22:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes:
>
>Stocks should reach shops in aboutmid-February according to my information.
>These 'rumours' are usually started by CBM people anyway.
>

Stocks of what? An A2000 replacement which is substantially different from
the A4000 or just a cut-down A4000/020 or A4000/030?

BTW. I disagree with a previous poster who said that A1200 is an A2000
replacement. An A2000 replacement must have at least 2 Zorro-III slots,
plus a CPU slot and a Video slot, IMHO.

Regards,

Tom Nettleship.
From: rbnix@tubastos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Reiner B. Nix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: MakeLink
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:17:34 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: tubastos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:

>Does anybody know what MAKELINK is supposed to do?

>*But*, when I use an editor to change the text in Alpha, Bravo remains
>unchanged! As far as I can see, the "MakeLink" command isn't doing what it's
>advertised to do, it's just doing a simple copy. You get two completely
>separate files, with no link between them at all.

>What's going on?


There are two differents classes of editors:

    editor a):
  write back the new file content to the old file,
  wether he makes an bakup file or not.
  This editor seems to be friendly to links in the way that
  both names, Alpha and Bravo, remaining refer to the same file
  after all.

    editor b)
  renames the old file, this may be done only temporarily
  getting a 'save' way to store the file content.
  After this he writes the new file content to a new file
  having the same name of the old file.
  This editor seems to be unfriendly to links in the way that
  two files, also named Alpha and Bravo, exist in different variants.
  One is remaining the old contents and the other one contains
  the new contents. There are existing both files because of
  creating a new file for the new contents.


If you use GNU emacs, this behaviour can be configured by setting a variable.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "Stefan G. Berg" <sgberg@banana.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Stefan Boberg not replying on LhA registration?
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:12:48 -0500

shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:

>Last I heard, Stefan (Boberg :) was on his compulsory military service
>thingie.  I don't know how long they last over there in Europe.

Hi Sam! ;)

I got lots of responses telling me that he is learning how to fight. :)
So there seems no question anymore to his sudden disappearing.

In Germany it`s a year if I remember right (they never wanted me :( ). I
believe that one year is about the lower bound for most countries. If
we take Sweden to be similar in this respect then we can expect Stefan
to be back in Summer (earliest). Maybe somebody from Sweden could help
us out.

Stefan
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From: oberc@augustana.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: those breadbox thingys
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:28:15 GMT
Organization: Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta


Yes, up here in rural alberta where nothing really
exists but natural resources, (you know, oil, cows)
some of us would really like to know if its worth
sending to those large Amiga mail order houses in
the states for one of those breadbox things (ie; Bodega Bay)
that let you put A2000 style cards into the soon
to be abandoned A500.  I'd really like to use the
AMAX+ and or Sunrise's 16bit sampling cards.  My main
interest with the amiga is music.  Alas.  Should
perhaps i junk my poor beast before it and myself suffer
this terrible alienation any longer.

Chad Oberg
camrose, alberta, canada

ps. you might have discussed this kind of thing before, but i've
only had access to this group for 2-3 months.

pps. "To get a picture of the future, imagine a boot, stomping
      on a human face, forever."  -George Orwell.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl)
Subject: Re: WB Font?
Keywords: fonts, WB30
Reply-To: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:12:20 GMT

In article 2191@vall.dsv.su.se, matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>What fonts are you guys using with a 640x400 (640x512) workbench?
>
>The default, topaz 8, looks good using 640x200 (640x256) but rather
>silly at the resolutions mentioned above. I've found that all fonts
>coming with the WB-disk look streched and tiny...

I'm at the moment (I change every week :-) using helvetica 13 which I
find to be nice. I'm still looking for the ultimate font though...

________________________________________
/ Tomas Pihl
/ ELLEMTEL Telecom Systems Lab, Sweden
/ email:   etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: andy@onkyo.incubus.sub.org (Andreas Goehler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Is ProTracker 3.0 a fake?
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:44:11 GMT
Reply-To: andy@onkyo.incubus.sub.org
Organization: Wanda Designes
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <C14t4z.58x@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>
> I'm afraid to dload PT 3.0 until I know it's legit. :)  After all, 2.3b
> just came out..  so what's the scoop?

Well, you should download it. This version of PT is based on the original
version 1.3 (AmigaFreelancers) and is totally different then 2.3b.
The Screen is Hires (640x200/256) and there are a lot of changes made.
Go ahead and download but consider it's a beta version.
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From: s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Pumpkin Power)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Fred Fish and no more fishes??
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:03:59 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd) writes:

>paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr) writes:

>>  Any truth to the rumor that Fred Fish is thinking about hanging it up?

>It would be a shame to see the collection stop. As the post states,
>if you have any say in your user group (If you are a member then you
>DO!) propose that they become a subscriber to the disks from the
>author. This way the amount is spread among the members and one person
>is not hit for the entire amount. There is more than enough sw
>in any ten disks release for someone to get something out of it.

Our local user group stopped their subscription because they simply
couldn't afford it.  The prices then were US$4.00 per disk I believe.
With about 20 disks a month, and with the exchange rate as it is the costs
quickly mount up - currently it would be about $60 every time he released
10 more disks.  The group would like to support Fred if they could
afford it, but the finanancial situation just doesn't allow for it.
We have been buying the Fish on CD-ROM however, but I'd guess he
doesn't make much from it.  It costs about $70-$80 here.

Peter Barton  :  s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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From: ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Currie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: 1200 Monitor Questions...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:39:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	I've got a few questions regarding the A1200 and monitors.
	
	First off- what mode does the 1200 need to sync down to 15.75Khz 
		for?

	What monitors other than the C= 1960 can be used with ALL modes 
		(cost?	In Canadian dollers if possible)?

	If I used a SVGA monitor, what modes would I miss (Is this the same
		question as the frist one?)

	What is the dot pitch on a 1960?
	
		Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mark@killdeer.Stanford.EDU (Mark Hosang Yim)
Subject: A4000 with 68EC040?
Organization: Robotics Lab. Stanford University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:17:24 GMT


Hi,

I just bought an A4000.  I was looking through the user's guide and it
says.  

"A4000 models shipped with a 68040-level microprocessor on the
processor module may have the 68EC040 variation of the chip. The EC
chip omits the internal FPU and MMU present on the full 68040.
..."
it goes on to say that the full 68040 would have dramatic increases in
math operations over a 68EC040 68882 combination, and that the EC is
chip replacable with the 68040 for those who want to upgrade.

I'm kinda surprised...  I got the machine intending to do some heavy
math. I just assumed it'd be full 68040, especially after reading
reviews and stuff on the net.  Did this subject come up? Guess I
should have done more research...

How do I tell if I've got an EC?  (can't open the box without voiding
warrantee). Showconfig and CPU programs say I've got a 68040/68882.
(looks kinda bad...though doesn't say 68EC040 explicitly) 
Are all current A4000's EC's or full 68040's?
Does anyone know just how different they are? (besides no MMU)

thanks
mark
mark@killdeer.stanford.edu
From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:12:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Fred Fish and no more fishes??
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc

loyd@seq.uncwil.edu (David Loyd) writes:

>I downloaded a post concerning the amount of subscribers that Fred Fish
>disks are sent to and the number is a pitiful 41 worldwide!
>
>It would be a shame to see the collection stop.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Indeed!!

>Support FRED FISH!!

Agreed, to be sure.  But what's the best way to do this?  I had the
impression that Fred didn't really want to be in the _distribution_
business, but rather in the business of being a focal point to
collect the software and make it available to as wide a base a
possible.  I get the programs I want via FTP, and support the FTP
site I use.  Seems to me that the volume of new releases lately
has been higher than at some points in the past -- that tells
me that the service is quite successful.  So, what's needed?  More
direct subscriptions?  More program contributions?  Simply time for
someone else to monitarily or physically help Fred out?
From: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A4000/1200 owner needed to test game
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:28:31 EST
Reply-To: mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Chris Hurley)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

I have been writing a game for around 6 months now and need someone with 
either an Amiga 4000 or 1200 to help me test it.  If you are interested, 
and can call Augusta, GA USA for the current file, I'd like to talk to 
you.  EMAIL me at mr_scary@lakes.trenton.sc.us
 Thanks.
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From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Yak _1.3_ and mouse blanking
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:38:35 CST

Hi again,

	Ok, Yak 1.2 knew how to blank the mouse, but it blanked all the
other sprites as well.

	Yak 1.3 knows how to blank only the mouse... but NOT if I run
"lacepointer" as well!

	Does anyone know how to get Yak + Lacepointer to work together?  I
presume that Yak watches the mouse graphics data for changes so that it
turns the pointer back on for a busy pointer, etc., but that lacepointer,
which is changing the data itself every 1/60th of a second, confuses it.

	Thanks for any help.  Please e-mail me at kolstad@cae.wisc.edu.

					---Joel Kolstad
From: draebiger@exil.GUN.de (Dirk Raebiger)
Subject: E
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Summary: 
Keywords: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:39:37 CET
Organization: Individual Network eV. (GUN-domain)


Dag!

Can anybody mail me some information about this new (?) language?
Something about the price, where you can get it, if a shareware/pd version
exists, etc... maybe a little source code example.

Thanks,
      - Dirk

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: vinsci@nic.funet.fi (Leonard Norrgard)
Subject: Re: to be or not to be
Organization: Soft Service, Inc.
	<C1HMMt.FtI@fishpond.uucp>
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:50:59

Fred,

There are several things I think you should do.  First, from your
example budget, I see that you don't get any royalty for the fish
library file descriptions that nearly all Amiga magazines print.  I
suppose you own a compilation copyright of the library as such, so for
all your editing work, I think you should at least be paid a decent
royalty from every magazine that spends editorial space on fish disk
contents.  Squeeze them, they make direct monetary profit of your
compilation work.  If you get enough money, you might even be able to
forward part of that to each contributor to the library.  Although it
would be a small sum of money, it would at least cover the
contributors own mailing costs.

Second, there are lots of companies in Europe that deal in fish disks.
Each month, they spend a large amount of money in advertising your
disks.  I've meant to measure how many millimeters of advertising
space they use each month, since from the advertising cost one can
estimate the size of the fish disk market.  There are many Amiga
magazines in europe, and the length of the space dedicated to the fish
library in all ads should be added up to figure out a rough
advertising investment these companies make each month.
 I think you should forbid these companies to duplicate your disks for
a period of two months after release, UNLESS they've paid a fee
proportional to the size of their fish disk business.  That should be
enough to force them, as competition will drive them to all do it as
soon as one company does it.  Again, since this market seems to be very
big, it probably turns out you'll get money enough to forward to the
contributors of your library as well.

Best whishes,

-- Leonard
(yes, this is a copy of a mail I sent Fred)
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