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From: csi095@cch.coventry.ac.uk (DIBBLE)
Subject: England V Norway
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:18:26 GMT

Article 12362 of rec.sport.soccer:
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From: csi095@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Smut)
Subject: England world cup team.
Organization: abUSENET, Coventry Polytechnic, Coventry, UK
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1992 09:46:07 GMT

With the international with Norway coming up in the next few days, this is the
22 and the formation that I would have picked if I were England Manager:

			*****SQUAD OF 22*****
		Keepers:	WOODS (Sheffield Wendnesday)
				COTON (Manchester City)
				HOULT (Leicester City)
              Defenders:	WALKER (Sampdoria)
	      			CURLE (Manchester City)
				PEARCE (Nottingham Forest(Capt.))
				JOBSON (Oldham Athletic)
				JONES (Liverpool)
				PALLISTER (Manchester United)
				DORIGO (Leeds United)
				ADAMS (Arsenal)
            Midfielders:	PLATT (Juventus)
	       			STEWART (Liverpool)
				BATTY (Leeds)
				GASGOINE (Lazio)
				INCE (Manchester United)
				STEVEN (Marselle)
               Forwards:	I WRIGHT (Arsenal)
	       			SHEARER (Blackburn Rovers)
				CLOUGH (Nottingham Forest)
				SINTON (Queens Park Rangers)
				WHITE (Manchester City)
			*****STANDBY PLAYERS*****
				WALKER (Tottenham Hotspur, Goalkeeper)
				WRIGHT (Liverpool, Defender)
				THOMAS (Crystal Palace, Midfield)
				JONES (Wimbeldon, Midfield)
				FERDINAND (Queens Park Rangers, Forward)**
				SHARPE (Manchester United, Forward)*
**If Sharpe not fit
*If fit

			*****OPENING LINE-UP*****

				   1
				 WOODS
	 	  		   4
				JOBSON
	2		5			6		3
      JONES	      CURLE		     WALKER	      PEARCE
      
		8		   9			11
	     STEVEN      	 CLOUGH		    GASGOINGNE
			7			10
		      WHITE		      SHEARER
		     		      
*****SUBSTITUTES*****
12.....WRIGHT
13.....COTON
14.....PALLISTER
15.....STEWART
16.....SINTON

In this side I have included Keith Curle, A great Central defender with as
much pace and skill as Walker, somthing England have been lacking in. Pearce 
retains the captaincy. David White stays in the side and Ian Wright makes the
bench.

Views Welcomed
Dibble
	   


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From: JSTA%NLU.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU (Julian Stanculescu)
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Date: 9 Oct 1992 19:19:59 -0500
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Dear Soccer Friends,

1We (The ILLINOIS STATE SOCCER ASSOCIATION) are putting together a DBASE
with teams from all over the world.  If anyone has the addresses, phone
numbers and/or fax numbers from first and second division clubs in any
country on earth, please send it to us.  If anybody would like to obtain
the list after we put it together, you are more than welcome.

2. In our effort to promote soccer here in the US before the WC 94, the
Association currently has some programs both for senoirs and juniors.
We are interested to set camps here in the state of Illinois and as
well as overseas.  If any one of you would be interested to help young
Americans boost their international experience please don't hesitate to
contact me at my E-mail address or by phone/fax.

Our main areas of interest would be: to take American kids to your
country for 10-12 days and have them train at one of the big clubs;
and to receive teams from your countries (any age/level) to come to play
or train in the US
If you want to help this right cause which is called SOCCER let's get
together and work something out.  There are some good benefits that you
would be able to get from this.

If you have any suggestions or questions please contact me at:
E-mail:  JSTA@NLU.BITNET
Tel.     (312) 728-4347
Fax.     (312) 728-1109
Chicago, IL  USA

Regards,

Julian
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
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Subject: Re: Memorable quotes
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:42:15 GMT
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In article <946@hobby.ukc.ac.uk> srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies) writes:
>
>	Tomorrow night, England play Norway at Wembley in a Group 2
> Qualifying Match for the 1994 World Cup. This will be England's first
> game in the group. Norway have had a great start, beating San Marino (twice)
> and Holland, so will go to Wembley confident of getting a good result.
>
>	This was not the case in 1981, when Norway's only ever victory 
> over England came in a World Cup qualifier in Oslo, Norway unexpectedly

I remember the commentary, it was a grat piss take. Anyone have a teamsheet
for the game? Has Taylor picked a sparkling side again? Is Waddle ever
going to wear an England shirt again...?

Give them Norwegian's hell, lads

thanks
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From: SEMIBRA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: European Coefficients ????
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:26:36 EDT

Did I miss the updated European Coefficients after the first round of the
EC's (was working hard around that time) or was it not posted ?
Was any country able to wrest the titles of `the big five' from
Israel, Ukraine et.al. ? -)
 
Ibrahim Semiz - preferred mail adress: semiz@yalehep.bitnet
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Subject: Old results of Sao Paulo
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:45:46 -0500
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 Group A
 -------

(Oct. 7th)
  Palmeiras      3-1   Botafogo
  Santos         4-0   Internacional
  Ituano         1-2   Corinthians
  Sao Carlense   0-2   Sao Paulo
  Santo Andre    0-0   Guarani
(Oct. 8th)
  Portuguesa     1-0   Juventus
  Noroeste       1-2   Bragantino
(Oct. 10th)
  Palmeiras      1-0   Santos
(Oct. 11st)
  Corinthians    2-0   Bragantino
  Portuguesa     2-2   Sao Paulo
  Guarani        3-3   Juventus
  Botafogo       1-2   Noroeste
  Santo Andre    1-1   Ituano
  Internacional  1-1   Sao Carlense


 Group B
 -------

(Oct. 7th)
  Mogi Mirim     0-0   Novorizontino
  Ferroviaria    1-1   XV Piracicaba
  XV Jau         0-2   Rio Branco
  America        2-2   Sao Jose
  Uniao Sao Joao 2-0   Marilia
  Aracatuba      1-0   Olimpia
(Oct. 8th)
  Catanduvense   0-6   Ponte Preta
(Oct. 10th)
  Novorizontino  1-0   America
(Oct. 11st)
  Catanduvense   0-2   XV Jau
  Uniao Sao Joao 2-1   Ferroviaria
  Aracatuba      0-0   Mogi Mirim
  Olimpia        0-0   XV Piracicaba
  Marilia        2-1   Rio Branco
  Ponte Preta    0-0   Sao Jose
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Subject: Re: Assimilated/Leeds v. Stuttgart
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:49:08 +0000







In article <1992Oct8.091913.834@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk
(J.McAllister) writes:

>The situation with Pat Bonnar is a bit strange. The only club he has been
>with is Celtic, and indeed he was there at the time when he could have
>been playing youth football. However, there was no Scottish youth league at
>that time (1978), therefore he didn't play in a youth league and doesn't
>count as an assimilated player. EUFA have said its Celtic's problem
>for not having a youth team at the time.

Of course, they should have realised in 1978 that they needed a youth
team so that 14 years on Pat could qualify as an assimilated player.

Talking of Pat Bonnar, Eurosport last night showed the All-Ireland Gaelic
Football Final (amusingly described in the Radio Times as "Gallic Football",
I didn't realise they'd switched codes in France!), between Dublin and
Donegal. Pat, the well known son of Donegal, was interviewed before the game and

said how he'd love to be playing. Later on, the commentators said that Donegal
had won the Ulster Championship. My knowledge of Ireland is a bit limited, but
isn't Ulster part of N.Ireland, or is it that only part of Ulster is in
N.Ireland? If the former is the case then what is Pat's qualification to play
for the Republic?

>I think that they could think about it a bit more and make a special
>case for Pat Bonnar to be an assimilated player - he does fit most of the
>criteria.

Hear, hear! As the local radio station in Glasgow pointed out at the
weekend, he's spent almost as much of his life at Celtic as he did in
Donegal.

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Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 14:17:19 CET
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Subject: Re: German team bored me yet again
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
>
[a totally uninfluenced opinion on a boring friendly deleted]
>
>This team plays still very boring and unspirited fussball. I am quite
>disappointed. On the other hand I watched a bit of France vs. Oesterreich
>and that was a pretty sad affair too. Maybe it's the world-standard nowadays
>
  Quite. Fortunately I only managed to see the second half.
  Austria were pathetic, not setting up a single chance and getting their
  first and only corner in the 82nd or so minute.
>
>noone seems to be playing *really* well.
>
>BTW. Does Oestereich employ a Zombie as their coach ? That dude looked scary!
>     Or wasn't that the coach ? I can't tell my TV's audio is gone.
>
  Even so, you might know that Austria's coach is the great Ernst Happel. I
  guess he can't help it that his team played such a lousy version of kick-
  and-rush. He had a severe illness about two years ago (I don't know the
  correct English medical terms, but he had heart problems).
>
>Nat!
>
  Karel
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From: manuel@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Manuel Balmaseda)
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Subject: Re: WC Qual. Groups (Europe)
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct16.050855.2884
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <01GPZW1L2G9E9OEC4R@vaxc.hofstra.edu> ACCGAT@vaxc.hofstra.edu (Garen Tchopourian) writes:
>
>  Group1       Group2        Group3        Group4        Group5       Group6
>  ======       ======        ======        ======        ======       ======
>1-Switzerl.    Norway        Ireland       Belgium       Greece       Bulgaria
>2-Portugal     Poland        Lithuania     Romania       Hungary      Sweden
>3-Italy        England       N. Ireland    Wales         Russia       France
>4-Scotland     Turkey        Spain         Czechosol.    Iceland      Israel
>5-Malta        Netherland    Denmark       Cyprus        Luxembourg   Austria
>6-Estonia      San Marino    Latvia        Faroe Isl.                 Finland
>                             Albania
>			     

	Group		#1		#2
	=====		==		==
	1		Italy		Portugal
	2		Holland		Norway
	3		Spain		Denmark
	4		Belgium		Romania
	5		Russia		Hungary
	6		Sweden		France

Those are my predictions.  However, teams like England, Ireland and Bulgaria
may surprise everybody and make it.
From: MACKINON@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Sandy Mackinnon)
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Subject: Postscript
Date: 13 Oct 1992 21:03:50 -0500
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After all the whinging and moaning about Stuttgart, people seem to
have very poor memories.  Didnt England (L-O-S-E-R-S) win the World  Cup
in '66 with a very dodgy goal   ????


Anyway, Leeds are  out next round !!


Sandy Mackinnon
Abuse to  cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
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Subject: re - chesterfield YOU'RE NOTHING
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:56:10 GMT
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You really have to pity these poor souls who follow struggling premier 
division outfits. They have one win and it goes to their heads.
How will they cope with visiting Grimsby and Oxford next year?
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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
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Subject: Re: Van.86ers/US Pro League?/CSL over?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:53:41 -0500
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On this point, the latest Soccer America had a nice piece about how
such a merger might rekindle the "spirit of the NASL". Apparently, FIFA is
quite concerned that the World Cup will come and go without leaving any
kind of a legacy. This merger might be a positive step. There was even
some talk in the article about including Mexican teams. To some extent
the American Airlines CONCACAF Cup and the Professional Cup competition
are attempts to make greater regional links among the three countries.

Well, with the North American Free Trade Agreement (with all it's flaws)
about to be signed, why not "free trade in soccer?"

Oh, oh, I think I may have opened up a can of worms....

Chris

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From: s009@brems.ii.uib.no (Arne Rivenes)
Subject: cups
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:25:00 GMT

As far as I know, have there been played qualifying round in a amatuer-cup.
I can't rmemeber wich at the moment, but I guess someone know.
What i want to know, is how Accrington Stanley did (if they played).
You can throw in some more results, if you like to.

I would also like to have list over the most important amateur-cups,
and which divisions that play in wich cup.

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From: laag@solan.unit.no (Steinar L}g)
Subject: Re: (spoiler) England - Norway WC94 QUAL.
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:24:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.165109.13028@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
 > bhag@etnxb.eua.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634) writes:
 > 
 > >This match clearly showed how important Rune Bratseth is for the Norwegian
 > >team. 
 > 
 > In the spring I read some reports claiming that Bratseth was going to
 > return to Norway for the rest of his career. Yet he still playes for
 > Werder Bremen in der Bundesliga - what is the story here?

Originally he had decided to play only this season in Bremen and come back to
Rosenborg next summer.A couple of months ago he changed his mind, so he will
play another year in Werder Bremen. This means he his retiring the summer 94,
and then not play in the Norwegian league.(He is 31 now.)
Bratseth has a had lot of offers from other clubs the last years
(Roma,Sampdoria,Rangers),but he has refused, probably because of his family.
I think the recent success of the national team has been important for his 
decision about playing two more years in Bremen.
Reaching a WC is would be a perfect finish of his brilliant career.

Steinar
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From: motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta)
Subject: Women's soccer
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 20:18:34 GMT

> I have no problem with including women's soccer in the 
Olympic, but the botton line is everyone knows that watching
Men's soccer is a lot more enjoyable than watching women's soccer.
>
> Andy

Who is everyone??? I could be really mean and say "I thought the
majority of people were heterosexuals". But I'm not mean, Andy.
Really. Just a bitch!

So, enjoy the boys on TV. I enjoy both 'cause soccer is soccer. The 
gender is something else...

Nana
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From: craa27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( Steve Holmes, Computer Centre )
Subject: Re: UEFA DISGRACE: RE: Leeds v Stuttgart
Reply-To: craa27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk
Organization: Strathclyde University Computer Centre.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:37:25 GMT

In article 2360@msdhsv.ingr.com, james@brock.b17b.ingr.com (James Brock) writes:
>There is nothing like a losing national team, a team that
>has no direction, no excitement, to provoke outpourings
>of frustration and anger.  Mistakes were made in the
>Stuttgart-Leeds match-up, and the competition continues.
>
>Now, let us figure out what to about England's demise!
>
>DEUTSCHLAND NUMMER 1!!!!!!


Laugh !!

(Seems my replies are getting shorter and shorter)
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Subject: Re: Blackburn and other trends....
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:58:33 +0000







Someone asked about lower division cup winners in Europe.

I seem to remember about 5 years ago or so Bangor City won the Welsh Cup
and got relegated from the (then) Gola League, they were narrowly knocked
out of EC2 by Atalanta who were in Serie B at the time, with
Atalanta going on to reach the semi-final.

Also Newport County reached 1/4th finals about 10 years ago when in
Division 3.

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From: sassieli@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Alan Sielicki)
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Subject: Reading play? again
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:41:33 GMT
Organization: University of Reading


	Huddersfield 0  Reading 0
                        
Saturday 10th October 

Once again Reading FC showed what they were really made of when
they introduced a new low standard for the 2nd division.
Seldom have any team played worse in this pathetic excuse for a 
football match where the boredom was only broken by  the groans
of the supporters as they witnessed yet another stupendous blunder
 by the Reading team.  
The highlight of the match came when everybody cheered as the final
whistle was blown and they could go home and forget the waste of
6 pounds and the 2 hrs they had spent freezing their bollocks off.
I'd like to give you details of the game but there weren't any
worth mentioning apart from Shaka Hislop saving a Huddersfield penalty.
God knows why the penalty was awarded it was probably due to the ref's 
attempt at injecting some life into the game.

In the end the winners in this game turned out to be neither of the 
teams nor the supporters but those intelligent enough to have stayed at home.

Previous results

Reading 4  Wigan 0
Brighton 0 Reading 1
Reading 0 Watford 2 (cup)

Yours eagerly anticipating the next match,
                                           a loyal Reading fan!!!!

P.S. Stephen Emberson will continue to give match reports from next week.
He's still recovering from the effects of this match.
From: gburnage@dwelly.natcorp.ox.ac.uk (Ooh Aah Cantona)
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Subject: Re: UEFA DISGRACE: RE: Leeds v Stuttgart
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:59:15 GMT
Organization: Oxford University, UK
Originator: gburnage@dwelly.natcorp.ox.ac.uk

>>One more question: who brought the fact to the UEFA attention? There have been
>>conflicting accounts on the net, some saying it was Stuttgart, some say Leeds.
>>What's reality?
>
>I still say Stuttgart president Meyer-Vorfelder did it, sometime
>during the day after the 2nd game.

Leeds sources said the first they knew was when some bod from German
tv helpfully rang up to ask them what they thought about Stuttagrt
fielding their Fourth Man. Leeds said "Whaaat?" and got on the UEFA
hotline to find out what had happened. We also heard that German tv
was on to the incident very quickly. If President Meyer-Vorfelder
hadn't have rang up and told UEFA, someone else would certainly have
done it for him before very long. Oddly, the phrase "damage limitation
exercise" springs readily to mind.

Was it President Meyer-Vorfelder's idea to bring to UEFA's attention
the nationality of Gary Speed (Englishman who wants to play in lots of
internationals so opts to be Welsh on such occasions)?  Nice try, but
no bananas.

Gavin
From: manuel@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Manuel Balmaseda)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Goal.zip
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:51:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct16.215125.18780
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


I played the game, GOAL, it is a lot of fun and quite addictive.  The only
thing the program needs are better B teams for most countries.  I played with 
Spain and the B team was formed of players like Dillinger, Longley, etc.  If
there is not enough information about other Spanish players (which should be
no problem) at least they could have given them Spanish names.

Nonetheless this is a small criticism, the game was superb and I recomend
people try it.

Manuel
From: colins@praxis.co.uk (Colin Shield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: The England Squad
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:33:41 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Warwick, U.K.

I've just seen the England Squad for Wednesday. It's not all bad!!!

Woods(Sheff Wed)
Dixon(Arse)
Pearce(Forest)
Batty(Leeds)
Walker(Sapdoria)
Adams(Bigger Arse)
Platt(Juv)
Gascoigne(Lazio)
Shearer(Blackburn)
Wright(Arsenal)
Ince(Crap - sorry - ManU)

What about Paul Parker at LB, even Pallister is better than Adams, and
Ince and Batty, well the less said about them the better, dare I
suggest he could have played Waddle or Beardsley, Clough. Strange also
now that Sinton has found a 'little' form, he doesn't get a game.

Colin Shield
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