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From: fritzj@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Fritz Friedlaender)
Subject: Re: Jewish Singers
Summary: Josef Schmidt
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:32:03 GMT


Bob Westover writes about Josef Schmidt (text deleted)...
Just read an article in Dec. 18, 1992 Aufbau (German-Jewish newspaper
published in New York). Schmidt was born in Davideny (Bukowina) on
March 4, 1904. His major successes as a singer - he started as a chasan -
came on the new medium, the radio, starting in 1929. He was of small
stature (1.54 m) - his greatest film success "Ein Lied geht um die Welt"
(May 9, 1933 in Berlin, when his persecution by the Nazis also started).
After many attempts to find a safe haven, he managed to escape to
Switzerland where he was interned and died after a short illness
on November 16, 1942.
There are a number of CD's with his songs, e.g. 2 vols. by EMI:
CDHB 64673 and CDHB 64676, also 2 CD's by "Relief", sold by Albany records
in USA (CR 921036 and 921037). There is more, incl. a mono record
(Preiser Records, 90145). All the above copied, with typos possible, from
above reference. Finally, a book about Schmidt (Alfred A. Fassbind:
"Josef Schmidt - Ein Lied geht um die Welt - Spuren einer Legende",
Schweizer Verlagshaus, Zuerich 1992). I have some 78rpm records featuring
Schmidt, hence my enthusiasm. The article also shows a picture of a memorial
tablet in the Jewish "Gemeindehaus" (communal center?) in Berlin on
which Schmidt and Richard Tauber are memorialized.
Hope that this is a more appropiate contribution to S.C.J.; I agree with
Bob Westover....  Incidentally, I had the pleasure of meeting Jan Peerce
when he came to perform at Purdue University with the Bach Chorale over
30 years ago, and took him to get a milkshake after a reception at the
local Hillel. A story goes with that, but I promised Peerce not to tell it.
(It is a religion-related story. Peerce was quite observant).
FJF
fritzj@ecn.purdue.edu
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From: etzhadat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Hydro Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,rec.humor
Subject: That time of year again
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:55:34 GMT
Reply-To: etzhadat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Hydro Man)
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Institute Chaotique for Galactic Sewage Treatment
Originator: etzhadat@dopey.cc.utexas.edu

From "The Big Book of College Humor", this has always been one of my
favorites.

	Xmas season,
	O, invention wise!
	Spearhead for
	Free Enterprise!
	
	'Tis time of year
	For profit making,
	Booming sales
	And money taking.

	There's shopping, shoving,
	Screaming, yelling,
	Rushing, pushing,
	Buying, selling.

	Grab it,
	Buy it,
	Wrap it,
	Tie it,
	Lick it,
	Paste it,
	Send it,
	Waste it,
	Like it?
	Swap it,
	Stop it,
	STOP IT!!

	Xmas season?
	It's black and bluish;
	Screw it all--
	I'm glad I'm Jewish.

		Yale Record c. 1965

Chanukkah Sameach!

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From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Synagogue MUSIC
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:57:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.200306.15164@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>Even some orthodox tunes, by the way, stop me in my tracks. There was
>one prayer in the Yom Kippur service, for example, that the Marina del
>Rey Chabadniks sung to the tune of the French national anthem.  It
>happened several times.

Not just Chabad of Marina del Rey.   I assume you refer to "Napoleon's
March" (not "La Marseillaise") which is well known as a traditional
Lubavitcher niggun.

Miriam Nadel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: Murray Kahl <kahl@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Subject: Error in L'Chaim 247
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <Murray Kahl <kahl@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:28:24 GMT

Following is the text of a post to me from Chabad concerning the error in
issue L'Chaim 247.
Thanks to all those who caught it as we will try to be even more careful in the future.

"The problem with issue # 247 that it said parshas miketz and was really about
another posuk from a diff. parsha....
 
I spoke to the editors and they said that this error went all the way down
the line and it was printed that way on paper on thousands of issues...
there is nothing anyone can do to correct that....
 
They noted however that there is no major problem with that issue
overall...in otherwords the POSUK is a real posuk and the dvar Torah on that
posuk is %100 corret...only one word is wrong the word "MIKETZ"
 
So just send it out again and this time instead of it saying that the week's
parsha * IS * miketz....intsead just change it to say that in CHAPTER X and
in POSUK X it is started such and such etc etc etc...and so as long as you
don't say "this week is miketz" there is nothing false about the entire
issue.
 
This type of an error has not happened ever since l'chaim's existance several
years ago."
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Vijay Bhucha, and Bill Gripp: JESUS IS NOT A MESSAYA!
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:30:49 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1992Dec21.141801.1174@bony1.bony.com> billg@bony1.bony.com
(Bill Gripp) writes:

>In article <1992Dec21.011549.25512@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
dkhaikin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dmitry Khaikin) writes:

>>In article <1992Dec17.211704.26231@bony1.bony.com>
billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) writes:

>>>In article <4574@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon
Ehrlich) writes:

>>>
>>>>A messayah is supposed to purify the hearts of people , at least of
>>>>those follow him , writting the above jesus stuff to this forum is an
>>>>immoral behaviour. Since Vijay defines himself as a jesus follower
>>>>his very writting is a demonstrating of an un pure jesus-follower hart
>>>>and hence it is is a declaration that Jesus is not a messayah.
>
>>>This is akin to saying that Judaism is invalid because of the Babylonian
>>>captivity, the Diaspora, etc.  Should we say Judaism is invalid becuas
>>>the people worshipped the golden calf?  I note you are in the Math Dept,
>>>I hope you don't teach logic.  =|^)
>
>>I think his logic is pretty good. See, yo missed one very important
>>thing. Yes, they did worship an idol, but noby says that there was a
>>meshiach then either. Moshiah has not come yet, and 'j' is certainly not
>>the moshiach and his argument is pretty good.
>
(Bill Gripp):
>The point is that Gideon says that Religion "X" is invalid because
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>someone who professes to follow "X" does so imperfectly.  All I'm saying
>is that this is true for ANY and ALL religions (i.e. there are those who
>say they follow "Y" but do so imperfectly) and is therefore an
>invalid argument (unless you are trying to prove that all religions are
>invalid  =B^]).
>

The point is that Bill Gripp knows that my argument , call it A, is
valid hence he  compose an invalid argument , B , declared it as if it
is mine (g.e.) and then prones his argument B to be invalid !!!.
But Bill hokus pokus does not change the validity of my argument
proves that jesus is not a messayah.

Shalom          Gideon Ehrlich    ERETZ YISRAEL


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: victor@watson.ibm.com (Victor Miller)
Subject: Re: Synagogue MUSIC
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:10:23 GMT
Reply-To: victor@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
	<1992Dec21.190540.20416@starbase.trincoll.edu>
	<102882@netnews.upenn.edu>
	<1992Dec23.182159.17690@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Organization: IBM, T.J. Watson Research Center

During the High Holidays, our shul had a chazan visiting from Eretz
Yisroel.  During R"H musaf, when perhaps I wasn't paying complete
attention, I was suddenly startled to hear a tune that was familiar to
me, but I couldn't place.  I started to rack my brain, and realized
that it was "It's a Small World" (from Disneyland/world).  I asked the
chazan about it afterwards.  He told me that, in fact, his family also
uses it for Shir Ha'maalot before the Birchat Ha'mazon on shabbat and
yom-tov.  I tried it, and it works!
--
			Victor S. Miller
			Vnet and Bitnet:  VICTOR at WATSON
			Internet: victor@watson.ibm.com
			IBM, TJ Watson Research Center
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From: dkhaikin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dmitry Khaikin)
Subject: Re: the end
Keywords: good bye; it was fun
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:01:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.203709.20775@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>Much to the joy of some and to the chagrin of others (hopefully more of
>the latter than the former) tomorrow is my last day at this assignment
>and, for at least the time being, the end of my access to the net.  As
>always, I've enjoyed reading and posting and I wish everyone hatzlacha in
>1993 and beyond.
>
>Now, what am I going to do with al this free time......

Well, wait for Moshiah or something... :-)

It was very nice having you here and I wish you luck and hope that you
will come back soon.

>-- 
>Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
>	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton

Cheers,
Dima
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From: fy@lucid.com (Frank Yellin)
Subject: Re: Feld Fraud?
Organization: Lucid, Inc., Menlo Park, CA
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:05:26

In article <1992Dec24.172950.14625@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David
Sternlight) writes: 

> I am starting to become suspicious of this affair. I know something
> about current U.S. Jails, and the claim that the Felds have spent the
> past month shackled hand and foot, in a Jail in Santa Clara,
> California to the extent that they cannot lay tefillin simply doesn't
> compute.

I agree.  I had to visit a friend who presumably was in the same Santa
Clara prison that these guys are in.  My friend was charged with
assaulting a police officer with a deadly weapon, certainly as serious a
crime as attempted murder.

And while the conditions weren't exactly what I'd call hospitable, my
friend showed no signs of being shackled or badly mistreated.

These guys are locked up in the middle of Silicon Valley.  Surely either
someone with net access has visited them in jail, or someone with net
access knows someone whose visited them, and can transcribe a brief
statement. 

I really don't want to hear any more statements "I heard that. . . " or
"Someone in my minyan says that . . ."  I don't know if such statements
count as Lashon Hara, but they should.

-- Frank Yellin
   fy@lucid.com
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Subject: Jewish books in digital form and software
From: EXTDSM@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MADDISON,David)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:32:50 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I am looking for a source of digital Jewish books. In particular I would like
to obtain a copy of the Tanakh in english, preferably with commentary.
Incidentally, what is the status of texts such as Tanakh in digital form? Are 
they kosher? I know that only a proper scroll can be used in services.

I am also looking for a Jewish calender program for msdos (public domain).

Finally, are there any programs that teach hebrew reading?

Happy Chanukah!

David Maddison
Melbourne, Australia


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: Conversion Question
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:05:53 GMT

CARIAN@auvm.american.edu writes:
> gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler) says:

> >I may be mistaken, but I thought that originally the Law of Return
> >always deferred to the (Orthodox) rabbinate.  It's relativley recent
> >that the fight to accept any flavor of "convert" has arisen, thereby
> >changing the status quo.  (I'm sure I'll be corrected on this if I'm
> >wrong.  Of course, this is scj.  I'll probably be corrected even if
> >I'm right.)
> 
> I would't want to disappoint you.
> 
> The Law of Return *originally* did not define the term "Jew" at all.
> In the 1960s, following the Brother Daniel case, it was amended to read
> that *for the purposes of implementing the Law of Return* a "Jew" is
> "one who was born to a Jewish mother, or has converted (she-hitgayer)."
> The Orthodox parties wanted to add the phrase "according to halachah"
> but this was not accepted.
> 
> The status quo accepts all converts. This was reaffirmed by the Israeli
> Supreme Court in 1988 or 1989 (the Shoshana Miller case). It is the
> Orthodox parties, and especially Chabad, that seeks to change the status
> quo. After all, the whole argument whenever it is raised is about amending
> the LoR to *exclude* non-O converts, not about amending it to *include*
> them.

I understand the way the Law is currently implemented.  What I was
meant in my (possibly erroneous) posting was that, originally, the
application of the LoR with respect to converts was de facto deferred
to the Israeli (Orthodox) Rabbinate.  I did not mean to imply that this
was a requirement of the law, and certainly not that it was included
in the law's text.  Just that this was the status quo.

Was the Shoshana Miller case the first in which a non-Orthodox conversion
was at issue?  If not, what happened in all other cases?  And if so, were
no other non-O convert naturalizations ever attempted?

-Don Gertler
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: ACLU/AJC Menorah Police?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:24:58 GMT


Norman Miller has apparently set himself up as the Art Czar for the
rest of us. The Menorah in Beverly Hills, which is what started this
thread, is by the famous Israeli artist Agam, and though Norman
is free not to like it, to make a general argument about vulgarity
based on his own personal taste in art is just plain silly. Some
of the most refined cultural arbiters and critics, who would be
among the first to scream "vulgarity" think the Agam's work
is worthy of hanging in major galleries around the world.

Finally, it's clear that Norman doesn't have a clue about what
vulgarity means (check the dictionary) since he says:

"I suspect that Habad's vulgarity stems precisely from its attempt at
acting in a world that it doesn't even begin to understand, so that
many of its gestures and symbols fail of their intentions."

Since he says his previous post is not a retraction or apology, it
would be good if he posted one.

David
From: sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Joke of the Day
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:50:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

ad980@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul S. Wolf) writes:


>In a previous article, ward@sun17.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Paul A.S. Ward) says:

>>
>>Sorry, the best bit of grafitti definitely has to be
>>
>>"Absolute Zero is OK"
>>
>Remember, this is supposed to be JEWISH humor.

Remember, Physics is the "Jewish science". That opinion probably saved the
world from the Nazi Atom Bomb.

In another context, it could be quite amusing that antisemitism prevented
that development. In this context, though, I can't say that I find the word
"funnny" applicable.


>Paul 


___Samuel____
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_________Pratice Safe .Signature! Prevent Dangerous Signature Virii!_______
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              summons ... There must have been a moment, at the beginning,
              where we could have said -- no. But somehow we missed it.
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From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: Deportations provoke crisis
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:32:49 GMT

Actually, it was the significant increase of terrorist murders of
Israelis which provoked the present crisis, not Israel's reaction.
-- 
Alan H. Stein   -----  AJIN   -----  astein@israel.nysernet.org
From: mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re^2: ACLU/AJC Menorah Police?
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:26:33 GMT
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL

jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:

>I have mixed feelings about the events in Cincinnati. Obviously I am
>not happy about the legal victory of the KKK. But perhaps the majority
>will begin to understand that it is better to forbid these displays on
>public property rather than be compelled to give equal access to the
>KKK, Satanists, Santerians, Snake worshippers, etc. (In a probably vain
>attempt to ward off a flame war, let me hasten to say that I don't deny
>that adherants to some of these faiths may have their legitimate right
>to expression--I just don't see the need to place the advertising for
>them on public property.)

No flameage from me!  I'm an atheistic Jewish ordained SubGenius
minister (I try not to let my hobbies interfere with one
another), and I agree wholeheartedly.
 
When the First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof....",  I see that as meaning that *no* religion
ought to be given more credence--officially--than any other.
 
Permitting the Lubavitchers to put up a menorah in a public
place--and permitting the KKK to put up a cross--does indeed make
"Judeo-Christianity" out to be the Unied States' official,
government-sanctioned religion.  The same is true about the
Christmas tree in the police station at my college, even though
it represents only private effort.  This is a Florida *state*
police department, as are all the state university system police
departments in Florida.  What business a religious symbol like a
Christmas tree has in a police department I do not know.  Though
I disagree with whoever said that the Christmas tree's pagan
origins make such a display "worse, if anything."  Paganism is
just as legitimate in public as Christianity or Judaism--that is,
not at all.  I don't see a Dobbshead on the wall in the cop
shop--nor would I put one there.
 
So if you're going to flame Jack, flame me too.
 
Mitch Silverman                    | As Voltaire never said, "I
Student, New College of            | disagree with what you say,
the University of South Florida    | but will defend to the death
mitch@cfraix.cfr.usf.edu           | your right to say it."
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From: gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: Conversion Question
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:06:32 GMT

cohen@quartz.ciw.edu (Ronald Cohen) writes:

> Ah, but their mother had converted to Judaism according to the
> traditional halach!  The problem according to O is that they
> will not recognize a C beit din.  So by O's definition it is
> "not according to halacha."  Now if that is the point of O, that
> only O's are kosher, than I cannot accept the O philosophy.
> Note that if the O position was that the status of the
> conversion is unclear until investigation, I would have no
> conflict with O on this.

What constitutes a Conservative Jew?  Is it that he/she does not
accept that the Torah was given by G-d to Moshe at Sinai?  Let's
for the sake of argument, take that definition.  Now, let's also
say that the O feel that a convert must accept Torah leMoshe miSinai.
The O may have grounds for feeling that one who does not himself
accept this tenet cannot be relied upon to impress it upon a convert
or to question the convert's conviction on this topic.  Now, IF
all of this were true, would you be have no conflict with O?

Of course, you might like to see further investigation of those
who claim to be O, since some in this category may also not accept
TlMmS.

> I find the O point of view presumptious here, and it is a very
> serious one since it affects, for instance, aliyot to Israel.

It would seem to me that no matter what the stance of the O, it
could affect aliyah.

> Actually, I find this confusing since the "who is a Jew law" I
> thought did not pass.  Is it de facto in effect?  What about all
> of the Ethiopian, Russian, etc emigrees?  Is it assumed that they
> are all kosher, or not?

I may be mistaken, but I thought that originally the Law of Return
always deferred to the (Orthodox) rabbinate.  It's relativley recent
that the fight to accept any flavor of "convert" has arisen, thereby
changing the status quo.  (I'm sure I'll be corrected on this if I'm
wrong.  Of course, this is scj.  I'll probably be corrected even if
I'm right.)

-Don Gertler
Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:24269 soc.culture.arabic:6070
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 10:21:41 PST
From: Lois White <LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
 <Bzxnpq.Crq@newsflash.concordia.ca>
 <EGGERTJ.92Dec30110435@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>
 <1992Dec30.162904.7304@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>

In article <1992Dec30.162904.7304@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, er@iscp.Bellcore.COM
(Elie Rosenfeld) says:
>
>In article <EGGERTJ.92Dec30110435@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>,
>eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>|> you use guilt by association to condemn the Arab doctors.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Belonging to Hamas is enough.  Would you refuse to condemn an American who
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>is a member of the KKK, but claims that he "doesn't agree with everything
Nice to see that McCarthyism is still alive--NOT!  In the U.S. system of
justice, guilt by association doesn't hold up court.  One can't be convicted
of murder or attempted murder or manslaughter if one simply belongs to a
group which advocates it.  It seems to me that Israel rounded up the
'usual suspects' and sentenced them to be illegally dumped on Lebanon
without even a charade of a trial.  'Illegally' = did Lebanon give them
visas?  I don't think Israel would like it if Jordan decided to send
400+ Palestinians who were born in Amman across the Allenby(sp?) Bridge
to live in Israel for 2 years because Jordan thought they were a threat
to their security.
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From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: deportation
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:34:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu


In article 13410, makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
makes the linguistic observation:


>    Your grammer is very similar to the author of a vicously anti
>semitic post (of which I still have a copy) directed against me on
>labor day 1988 (titled "To the Jew DAVIDM").


And you spell about as well as my dog.


:)



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