From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Bush pardons Iran-Contra scumbags
X-Xxdate: Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:33:09 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:36:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.060803.17657@pegasus.com> Tom Leylan,
tleylan@pegasus.com writes:
>Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:
>
>>Oh yes I can. We have already left our children a huge social,
>>economic, and environmental mess because we didn't consider the effect
>>on their lives. Should we repeat that mistake again?
>
>You must have missed it:  Every decision cannot be based upon one the
>question "what kind of message does this send to our children ?"

I understood your assertion the first time. My reason for disagreeing
with it still stands. I never suggested that it should be the only
question considered, just one of the most important.

>
>>Those rules are called the law. How far are you willing to let your
>>government break the law? Do you think they should allow you to bend
>>the law too?
>
>"They" do allow me to bend the law.  "They" let you bend the law all
>time also.  The laws we bend aren't so serious but you watch anybody
>on a daily basis for a year and you'll find lots of laws bent and many
>broken.

The operative word here is "Serious". Where are you going to draw the
line?

>
>>It has cost 35 M because the players in this scandal have been lying and
>>covering their tracks.
>
>And our trillion dollar debt is caused by.... wow you identified how the
>money was spent that makes it okay.  I probably didn't realize that it
was
>a requirement for the special prosecutor to have a suite at an expensive
>hotel... "we had to order from room service Bush wouldn't send us the
>notes".  It is $ 35 million dollars in pursuit of lying to Congress

and embezzlement, and defying an act of congress... Let's not
grossly over-simplify the nature of the crime. These are various
serious crimes which pull at the very fabric of our society.

If you have problems with the way the money is spent, fine. I am
as much against waste as you are. However, if you are saying that
government officials should be allowed to break the law with
impunity because it will cost money to bring them to justice,
I take exception to that.

>that much isn't spent on a murder investigation and believe me folks
>who murder people lie to cover their tracks also.
>
>>Maybe we should give these people a medal for being powerful enough
>>to be above the law and clever enough to convince people like you
>>that they should be.
>
>Ok, divert into silliness for a moment.  "Perhaps we should spend $ 500
>million on the Bush thing because the special prosecutor is clever
>enough to convince you that we should."

Your right. That is silly (and pointless).
>
>>A crime should be investigated and punished, period. To allow any
>>individual
>>to be above the law is a bad precedent to set and has grave implications
>>for the very foundational principles of our society.
>
>Yeah I've noticed how adherence to that principle has been practiced up
>until oh... last month wasn't it ?

Are you suggesting that the democrats made them break the law? Are
you suggesting that the government memo they found was a forgery? 
If you have solid evidence that there was no crime and this is just
some kind of political conspiracy, I'd love to see it. Otherwise,
they should be brought to justice.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




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