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From: steiner@dorm.rutgers.edu (Dave Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd & La Carrera Americana
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:46:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Cc: steiner

In article <047q8kk@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

> > I'm not too sure if the video ia about to be released commercially, but
> > it was certainly screened on national tv here in the UK last christmas. 
> 
> It's been out in the States on both videotape and laserdisc for a couple of
> months now.

So is this worth getting for someone who's interested in Pink Floyd
music but not particularly interested in the racing theme of the
video?

ds
-- 

Dave Steiner
arpa: Steiner@BakerSt.Rutgers.Edu or Steiner@Rutgers.Edu
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From: kenneths@tropicana.ai.mit.edu (Kenneth J. Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: More Gentle Giant
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:42:02 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tropicana.ai.mit.edu

i'm looking for a GG album w/ a green cover for a friend. i haven't seen one in
local music stores. anybody know its title?

ken
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:49:45 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.audio, goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>Also, a 128meg rewritable magneto-optical disc costs about $50, give or take
>a few.

I've yet to see anyone explain how Sony has figured out how to make
money selling basically the same disk for $14.  The articles I've read
in MIX imply that no one knows hows to make these things cheaply.  My
guess is that Sony is loosing money big time on the blank disks right
now.  I bet they haven't figured out how to make them cheaply, but
figured that if they sold them for what they really should cost ($50),
that no one would buy into the MD concept.  (and with the DCC coming
out they couldn't wait any longer to release the MD).

They probably plan on making their money on the over priced players and
recorders for now, and just assume that they will later figure out how
to make the disks cheaper.  I bet we will find that the blank disks will
be scarce for the first year (because they will want to limit their
losses).

>Apprently Sony's MD's use some new technology and read the data
>in one pass. (as compared to 2 for conventional MO devices)

I think that's "write in one pass".  Yes, the MD does read and/or write
in one pass.  I don't really understand why the others don't also.

My understanding of the MO data drives is that it makes one pass with
the magentic field held one way, and the laser constantly on to erase
the sector, and then makes a second pass with the magnetic field reversed,
and the the laser pulsing on and off to write data of the opposite
polarity.

My understaing of the MD is that it writes in one pass by keeping the
laser on and reversing the magnetic field as required to write 1's and
0's.  Why weren't the data drives designed to work like this in the
first place?

Back to the disk cost issue.  It just occured to me that if they are
loosing money on the blank disks, then we probably won't see a MD
format data drive until they figure out how to make money selling
the blank disks for $14.  This is because I think the typical computer
user will use a lot more blank disks per drive than the typical music
listener.  And Sony won't be able to sell many drives if they can't
also supply the disks.  Though I guess they could sell the data drives
for $5K to make up for the loss.

Curt
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:52:54 EST
From: Mike Jung <MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Noteworthy CDs

In article <1gbef3INN9fd@tamsun.tamu.edu>, bkrram@cs.tamu.edu (Raghuram K
Bindignavle) says:

>I just received a brochure from NoteWorthy.  before odreing any by mail
order, >I would like to know how the quality of their CDs are.

Noteworthy's CDs are "factory shrinkwrapped." Mine came in longboxes and all
that, just like going to the store.

Noteworthy story: I ordered a bunch of discs and asked they be sent FedEx
overnight.  The person thought I said "FedEx 2nd day," and I called back to
check, and she said "too late." Started to argue with me, so I asked for the
manager.He sent me another duplicate order overnight and I was only charged
for 2nd day shipping.  (Reason I wanted it overnight was because I'd ordered
a new album that would have come out the next day--and I wanted it the next
day.  BTW, you can order CDs that come out on Tuesdays on Monday and they
WILL get to your door on Tuesday if you overnight it.)

I will order from Noteworthy more often now, and will recommend it, as long
as I can avoid getting in fights with the service representatives.  :)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Subject: Re: CD player's random play algorithm
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:48:33


>>>>> "Krish" == Krish Ponamgi (ponamgi@cs.unc.edu)

Krish> Does anyone how randomn selection play
Krish> works on cd players?  How is it implemented?

Depends on the brand, I guess. Some sort of numerical pseudo-random
sequence with a seed based on the state of the real-time clock would
not be bad. Adding inverse weighting with the last, say, five songs
played might be a good idea to avoid the "it played the same some 4
times in a row -- it's not random at all" syndrome.

Either way it does not contribute much to either sound quality or
artistic quality of the music reproduced.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: tlhayes@hellcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Zatar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: cd changer's random play
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:40:25 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

pretzlaff@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (NUMBER 1 TRIBE FAN!) writes:

|> I have a Magnavox carrosel and its random play is quite fast, but it has
|> another annoying feature: it doesn't remember what tracks have already
|> played and will often play the same tracks over.  Does anyone know if this
|> is common?  Which changers don't have this feature?

|My JVC 760MKB(?) also has this "annoying feature". Its a magazine type.
|Its really the only complaint I have with it.


I have a Pioneer 18-disc PD-TM1 (The old version) and it never repeats songs
on random play.  I imagine the other Pioneer players have the same random-play
technology.

					Zatar
					tlhayes@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:18:18 GMT

roy@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy Jezmajian) writes:

>Could you tell me more info on Goldmine?  Specifically:

>-How often is it published?

I think every other week? Not positive. Seems a little more frequent than
I consider necessary since the main reason I'd buy it is for the ads, and
I doubt theyy change that much from week to week. 

>-How much does it cost to subscribe?

If you go for the sample issue offer below they'll probably offer you a 
discounted inrto rate - they offered me 15 issues for $15. 

>-What is the address?

GOLDMINE
SAMPLE COPY DEPARTMENT
700 E. State Street
Iola, WI 54990

They will send a free sample issue on request. International requests for 
samples require some payment. 

>-What kind of stuff do they write about?

All sorts of stuff, form collecting to interviews. I saw a George Harrison
interview recently, and a nice Canterbury progressive Rock discography
a couple of years ago, but I've only really seen 2 issues. Mostly it 
seems useful for the ads of lists of collectables and dealers of such. 

 - Malcolm  
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: ingrcfb@bnr.ca (Charles Board)
Subject: Re: Box Set Mania
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:45:54 GMT

In article <1963@heurikon.heurikon.com>, gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor) writes:
|> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
|> >It seems like an endless spiral.  I was looking at 3 of the latest installments
|> >of "let's make some money by repackaging old material", namely Fleetwood Mac,
|> >Journey, and Queen. 
|> 
|> You poor man. Sure, someone screwed up bigtime by not digging through
|> the vaults for some PRE-b'nicks Mac because they figured that none of
|> America's youth were interested in the old blues band or even that
|> conflagration with Bobby Welch. 

The new ICE hints that the lack of pre-b'nicks Mac material was due in large
part to internalk group politics (as in "the more of MY material, the greater
MY royalties"). 

It also says that Warner Bros. is planning a one or two CD anthology of the early
blues stuff for next year that will "fill in all the missing holes". 

BTW, I heartily second your endorsement of the B.B. King box. I've bought about
30 of these box sets over the last three years and I think B.B.'s may be the
best of the lot (not counting the 9-disc Stax singles collection).
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
Subject: CD Player reviews
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:50:35 GMT


Does anyone have this years Consumer Report on CD Players?  I am mostly
interested in the Technics 5 disc carousel that allows you to change four of 
the disks while the fifth is playing.

Any comments on MASH and Pulse?

Wayne

--
Wayne McCormick                  | Landmark/ITA, Inverse Theory & Applications
wmccormick@ita.lgc.com           | Calgary, Alberta, Canada  
                                 | Phone:(403) 269-4669
From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Looking for a little Swiss help..
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:08:04 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

If anyone in Switzerland reads this group, if you could look for Andreas
Vollenweider's 'Eine Art Suite' disc next time you happen to be in a music
store and give me a price on it (email me) I would greatly appreciate it!

I don't know if the disc is out of print, but I know it isn't available in
the US, so I might possibly be looking for someone to buy it for me over
there.

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Organization: Doctoral student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:50:21 -0500 
From: Ken Zuroski <kz08+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Distribution: usa
	<1992Dec18.184643.13220@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
	<BzHtsK.KCL@ns1.nodak.edu>

I also have been very pleased with their service; have spent several
hundred dollars with them over the past year. They are very good
about answering your questions; if you leave a question for the 
system administrators, say some question about the status of an order
or whatever, they will call you the very next day very promptly. Their
selection is much better than Noteworthy, at least for classical, jazz,
and other non-mainstrean/non-pop CDs. It is true that it usually takes
about 2.5 weeks for an order to reach me from the West Coast to my
house in Pittsburgh, but big deal. I just plan ahead. 

Ken Zuroski

---
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ken Zuroski
Department of English
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA
kz08@cmu.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: bellutta@ohsu.EDU (Paolo Bellutta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: More Gentle Giant
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:11:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Dec17.211114.9080
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

In article <1gqe5aINNfqf@life.ai.mit.edu> kenneths@tropicana.ai.mit.edu  
(Kenneth J. Schneider) writes:
> i'm looking for a GG album w/ a green cover for a friend. i haven't seen one  
in
> local music stores. anybody know its title?

The missing Piece.  I have it.  It is really nice (yeah, like I didn't
like any of the GG albums).  I don't believe it is available in CD format
(if it is *please* let me know).

--
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 _   /|  | Paolo Bellutta ---------- bellutta@ohsu.edu
 \'o.O'  | B.I.C.C - Oregon Health Sciences University
 =(_o_)= | 3181 SW Sam Jackson Park Rd. - Portland, OR
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL)
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:14:25 GMT

>I've yet to see anyone explain how Sony has figured out how to make
>money selling basically the same disk for $14.  The articles I've read

Hmmm...I don't know.  Sony's discs are physically smaller than the 128meg
MO discs. (2.5" vs. 3.5")

I don't think Sony is losing money on them.

I've gotten the impression that a 3.5" MO disk is fairly cheap to make, and
the $50 price is just what the market says.  20meg flopticals are selling
for about $25 dollars, and the 5.25" MO discs are selling for $125-$150.

I dunno...
From: lancer@lizardo.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:22:15
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
	<1992Dec9.020926.24735@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<1992Dec9.050235.7768@tc.cornell.edu>
	<1992Dec12.203832.14235@cs.mcgill.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: lizardo.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: narpet@cs.mcgill.ca's message of 12 Dec 92 20:38:32 GMT

>>>>> "narpet" == Greg WARD <narpet@cs.mcgill.ca> writes:
narpet> the MD, and it was stated fairly clearly that the heads *do*
narpet> indeed touch the disc surface.  I don't recall exactly, but
narpet> I'm fairly sure this is only when recording.  Since playback
narpet> only requires bouncing a laser beam off the surface, I imagine
narpet> the playback mechanism is quite similar to that of a CD
narpet> player.  It's that heating the disc surface up and magnetizing
narpet> it that probably requires physical contact.

I won't argue, cause I don't know for sure, but I don't see why a
magneto optical recording head would have to touch the disc...  Maybe
someone more informed can correct me?

narpet> Which brings me to my little question... anyone have any word
narpet> on how many times a particular MD can be recorded on?  Can all
narpet> this heating and remagnetizing "wear out" the disc over time?
narpet> Not a big deal, as whatever the facts are, it's sure to be
narpet> better than a tape medium.

According to Sony they can be rerecorded up to 1,000,000 times without
serious degredation.  This seems fairly consistent with existing
computer M/O drives, so I have no reason to doubt it...

Incidentally, I tested a DCC and a MD recently and posted my
observations to rec.audio under the title "I just tested the DCC and
MD" if anyone cares to read...

.s.
--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (U.F.Orb)
Subject: Soundtrack to "WHORE"???
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:02:08 GMT

Anybody ever seen this sucker?

The credits of the movie state that the soundtrack is available on
Select records, but neither the Phonolog(tm) or CD International
have any listings for it.

I'm *REALLY* looking for this, if any of you can help me....
-- 
Jason Bilsky   fuzzbox@world.std.com 
"Got enough guilt to start my own religion."
From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: How do I fix a scratched CD?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 02:26:39 EST
Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC
Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth)
Distribution: us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1gapbgINNbdi@lester.appstate.edu> (rec.music.cd), VETTERS@vax1.elon.edu (Steve Vetter  ) writes:
> 
> [cd disaster story deleted after ~30 min]
> 
> There is this used CD store where I live and I bought a defective disc
> there.  The old man, who BTW is a real jerk, grabs it from me and
> pulls out this tin of CAR WAX and begins to spend 15 min polishing the
> disc.  When I looked at it again, it was scratched all over and still
> wouldn't play.  Just wanted to pass this along.
> steve

Sounds like something shown on an info-commerical. :-)

David
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski)
Subject: Re: Box Set Mania
Organization: GTE Government Systems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:22:23 GMT





And don't miss King Crimson's live box of some concerts from the 73-74
time frame (the first 2-1/2 discs are quite good).  4CDs.
-- 

Frank Malczewski		(fdm@wlv.iipo.gtegsc.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Box Prices (was Re: Box Set Mania)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:29:33 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Is it just Colorado or are some of these box prices insane?  I want to get
that Journey box (cd's), but for a 3CD box set the AVERAGE price I've seen is
$48.00!  That's $16 a disc!  For $48.00 I could almost buy the entire Journey
catalog (they're almost all "best buy" discs, ~ $10 ea.).  Why so damn 
expensive???

-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
|                                                                             |
| "Nuke the unborn gay whales!" |  millerje@cs.colostate.edu  |  Jeff Miller  |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Box Set Mania
Keywords: box set, floyd, john
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:02:51 GMT

sek@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor) writes:

>Question, is there anything on the new "Rare Masters" collection that is not
>on the "To Be Continued..." box set?  If you already own "To Be Continued..."
>is there any reason to buy "Rare Masters"?

Yes, you will definitely love "Rare Masters" regardless if you liked the 
boxed set or not.  It has "I've Been Loving You", "Here's To The Next Time",
"All Across The Havens", "Just Like Strange Rain"; (no "Come Back Baby" or
"Your Song" demo); "Lady Samantha" and "It's Me That You Need" in 
stereo ("To Be..." had them in mono and I think I like the mono better);
the complete soundtrack to "Freinds"; UK masterred versions of "Bad Side...",
"Rock and Roll Madonna", "Grey Seal" (I like the US "Gray Seal" master better);
from the "Tumbleweed Sessions there are "Madman Across The Water" (Different
but as good as the later version that is popular--sounds like the Dead play
with Elton) and "Into the Old Man's Shoes"; a couple of demos of songs he 
and Taupin  wrote for Rod Stewart and Long John Baldry; a horrible version
of "Slave"; a third version of "Skyline Pigeon" that was the b-side to 
"Daniel" and arranged by Paul Buckmaster; "Screw You (Young...)", "Whenever
You're Ready...", "Jack Rabbit"; "Step Into Xmas" and it's b-side "Ho, Ho, Ho
(Who'd Be a Turkey At Christmas?"); B-sides from the "Caribou" sessions
including "Sick City", "Cold Highway" (a fav B-side of mine), and  "One Day At 
A Time" (With Lennon); the previously unreleased "Planes" (excellent); "House
of Cards" (B-side to "...Saved My Life..."); and one reason alone to purchase
the collection, "Sugar On The Floor", one of my top 5 EJ perfomances and 
written by Kiki Dee, it was the B-side to "Island Girl" and sounds a little
like EJ doing Joe Cocker.  It also features "I Saw Her Standing There" 
with Lennon and this is my one disappointment with
the collection--there are two other cuts from the same perfomance that 
Polydor has rights to but did not release, "Whatever Gets  You Through
The Night" and "Lucy In the Sky...".  However, all three live cuts with 
Lennon can be found on the "Lennon" box (for $45?!!!).

So about a third is overlap, BUT I think this mini-box is great, 
especially if you appreciate early Elton most.  An added treat is that 
Taupin comments on many of the tunes in a really neato booklet that comes with
it.  This is a must buy CD.  The album seems more professional and artistic
than an MCA compilation would have been.  A must buy if you like "To Be...",
"Tumbleweed", "Madman...", "Empty Sky", "Elton John" or his other stuff
1967-75.

"Madman" (Alternate take) was released as a promo single to radio stations.
I hope "Sugar On The Floor" is released as an A-side when "The Last Song"
runs its course.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: seals@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Larry W. Seals)
Subject: Re: That Dolby Question Again (sorry....)
Summary: Note to Lazlo...
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:49:10 GMT

Hey there,

I thought I would give a glance at my copy of TGAoW - and there on the
inner disc area (y'know the clamping area) is inscribed DIDX 251 11A2. 
I checked the time on "Science..." and it's right on at 5:09 with a drum
solo.  Airwaves checks in at 3:35 and Flying North at 3:50 (I believe
these are the ones you referenced).  I too saw two different versions of
TGAoW back in the early eighties with (I believe) some slight
differences.

Don't know if this means anything...

seals@ecsvax
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: A different Thomas Dolby question (no, not really)
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:57:09 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

dlucy@sandr.COM (Doug Lucy) writes:

> I was wondering, is there a digital version of the US vinyl version of
> "She Blinded ME..." (with the longer-than-CD intro) available anywhere? 

As mentioned in the earlier thread, it's on the following discs:

    CD:	198? US (Capitol CDP 7 46009 2) [matrix DIDX 251 11A2]
    CD:	198? US (Capitol CDP 7 46009 2) [matrix CDP-7-46009-2-1T (12)]
    CD:	199? US (Capitol CDP 7 46009 2) [matrix S9A26H 1-1-2 CAPITOL JAX 15C]

Double-check matrix numbers before buying.  There are two versions of the
CD out in the US, and only these have the long "She Blinded Me With Science".

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: S.O.U.L. S.Y.S.T.E.M.
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:41:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

sloth@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:

>rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu wrote:
>: Hey...

>: I saw a video this weekend for one of the songs on the "Bodyguard" soundtrack,
>: its this group called the S.O.U.L. S.Y.S.T.E.M., and they are produced by C&C
>: music factory...Its another usual C&C type production, dance music, rapping,
>: and a diva singing..The lead rapper... [stuff deleted]


>I heard the song and it's nothing too special. Another use of the
>cliched "Paid in Full" break-beat (as used by Milli Vanilli, P.M. Dawn,
>etc.) and an average white rap. It's a change from C&C's usual
>techno-house (which makes them sound kinda like Stock Aitken Waterman on
>amphetamines :-) )

Listen to the other versions.  The video version (actually the single
version - there is also a dance remix video of the anthem version)
that they show on tv/Mtv is the slow one that uses the "Paid in Full"
loop, but the anthem mixes bring the tempo up to about 122 bpm, the same as
most of their other anthems - Pride (a deeper love), Keep it Comin', etc.
The double 12" and the CD single both have the anthem versions on them.
Yes it's nothing outstandlingly different, but works on the dance floor.

Bil Gonzalez
DJ Guru
bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu
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