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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:31:58 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Giffaws
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>         I have been checking out how everyone looks tonight.  Does
>         anyone know why the following Gifs will not permit themselves
>         to be ftpeed?
>           apocalypso.gif
>           steph-gt.gif
>
> My guess - whichever obscure brain-dead operating system you use doesn't
> like 1) the length of 'apocalypso' and 2) the '-' in steph-gt  (actually I
> thought it was a +, but...)

If Graham is correct, then giggles should be able to solve his problem
by specifying a local file name when he does the get; e.g.

        get apocalypso.gif localfilename

Of course use a localfilename that your OS will like.

Joan
    -- glad to have had the words-l Boston gathering here but several
    days behind on list mail and working backwards randomly.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:43:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Carolyn's Science/Nature Question

I've been asked to give Carolyn her question (since Jenna has been busy at
work), and she has chosen Science and Nature.

Here 'tis:

What does a chairbound basophobic fear?

If you're correct, you can move four spaces to either Geography, Entertainment
or Arts/Literature.


Emily
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:53:11 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleaning: Xtian
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        Susan,
          Don't let abh's comment bother you; I enjoyed your story.  Sometimes
        I wonder if she and Graham are siblings. :)

Ahem.  There are ... oh, forget it.

G
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Words-L Weekly Digest
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>I'm getting *sick* and *tired* of being left out of the Words-L
>Weekly Digest, *sick* and *tired* of it.  And I want it to stop,
>*now*.
>--ggs
>p.s.: As if I were not a contributing <member> of this group.

        Post something interesting, and maybe you'll merit mention in the
        W-LWD...

        Sorry, I just wanted to be the <first> to say it.

neal
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:53:16 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Croning Plans
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>    Decent air connections between N.O. and The Golden Triangle, too?

If you don't mind changing planes in Memphis or Atlanta.  :-)
(You could rent a car and drive from N.O. to Starkville in less time
than it would take to fly.  If you're simply looking for flight connections
rather than for a visit to N.O., look for Memphis or Atlanta, not N.O.)

>    The Natchez Trace Parkway.  One of the best highways in America.

Would you believe I've never even been on the part of the Trace that's
south of Jackson?  But I know some of its northern segments intimately.
It looks just like all the other national parkways -- except that it
lacks the beauty of the mountains found on routes like the Blue Ridge
Pway.

>    If Starkville is the site, I will take some vacation days and help
>    out with limousine service and local arrangements.

Bernard and I vote a loud and clear vote (two votes) for Starkville!
Actually, I think there should be a vote per subscribed e-mail address.
So make that Starkville votes from maynor@ra.msstate.edu, maynor@msstate.
bitnet, maynor@cs.msstate.edu, natalie.maynor@lambada.oit.unc.edu, an843@
cleveland.freenet.edu.  That's for now.  A few other addresses may soon
subscribe to the list, including natalie@english.msstate.edu and bernard@
english.msstate.edu.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:07:24 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston gathering 1/6/93
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If you're caught up with list mail, you know that I replied to
Elaine Brennan's query re the party.  I'd thought this was a private
message, but alas no -- smallish e-oops, I guess.

The directions in that message apply to those coming in from Providence
or points west.  If you need more local directions, let me know.

I'd like to hear from anyone planning to come, just to get an idea of
the numbers and what you might be able to bring.

Joan
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:41:39 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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> >I've used many, many, many different keyboards on IBM PCs and their clones
> >during the past five years and have never seen a key that said PF.
> >   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
> My IBM RT has pf keys.

I was thinking later about the fact that I've never been intimate with an
IBM (actual brand) keyboard.  Maybe when using them briefly on computers I
didn't know well I didn't notice the superfluous keys.  The keyboards I've
been more intimate with have been Zenith, Northgate (short but intimate
relationship), CompuAdd, and Zeos (three different keyboards).  Oh, I almost
forgot our lab keyboards.  I guess they're probably Epsons since the computers
are Epsons.  None of the above have PF keys.

> and speaking of pf keys, Natalie, I saw a great sweatshirt in the
> Signal's Catalog.
> It says, (in french, unfortunately) "i kiss my dog (or cat) on the lips"

I'VE GOTTA HAVE ONE!!!!  I can't believe that I threw away my last Signals
catalogue unopened because I was on a purge-the-catalogues-instantly kick
at the time.  Surely another one will show up soon, though.  Same with
Wireless -- I threw the recent one away unopened.  (I've noticed that
Signals and Wireless are almost identical.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:30:12 EST
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Silence...

*** Resending note of 01/04/93 09:31

>  We're having a "False Spring" here, too.  It feels like March outside:
>cool, windy, and moist.  Temperatures are to be in the 50's today.

Hi all, Don here way behind on everything.  But got friendly system person
to straighten out my mail box - which I messed up big time trying to figure
out what Crosstalk does to the PF keys (anyone out there *know* how to make
Crosstalk emulate *all* - not just first 4 - PF key inpulses from standard
keyboard?  i.e. PF12 is seq ESC ESC W, but how do I tell Crosstalk that?)

Anyway, normal Spring here, about 80.

Message to Ruth:  Way behind on mail (well it's all gone, but will look at
FTP), but I cheated and did not wait until Jan 6.

Both items are now on my wall, and yes cover does look like Muffy (well
when he was a few months old) minus two short ears.

Thank you ever-so-much.  You're a sweetheart.

Don, haven't made a mistake this year, or did any work :-(
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:24 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Greetings,

>Virupaksha I believe.
>
>G

Graham,

Read the subject line.

tushar
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Art/Literature
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>Carolyn writes:
>
>"..... Give us this day our daily bread....." is the part it refers to.
>Bread is the answer I was looking for - commonly known as 'the staff of life'
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to most speakers of English.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>------------------------------------
>
>Well Carolyn, I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion, but in my
>informal survey of co-workers, all born and raised in these United States and
>2 of whom attend weekly Bible Study (and apparently weren't paying very good
>attention), noone knew what to make of this question ... even those who could
>recite the entire Lord's Prayer.

Perhaps I should have said "most older speakers of English" then. Did anyone
on the list over 40 not know what the 'staff of life' was?

>So what do I do for my next turn?
>
>--Anjani Chandra

You know the answer to that since you've already had it.... now you have to
wait until Round 3 before you're next go. I will post your choices for the
next round when I am down to the last couple of players on this round.

Carolyn
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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>Speaking of nuclear, Chris and I watched a great doomsday movie
>the other day, title something like "DEFCON-4" in which some
>orbiting  astronauts launch the final nuculuh payload and then
>have to crash land and take their chances among the survivors.
>Not as fast-paced as the Road Warrior series, but equally as
>chilling with the survival of the fittest theme.
>
>Bill

I never have seen the end of that movie. The three times I've been aware
that it was going to be on TV and have set up the video to record it, the
programming was wrong; the tape broke and the last time the video went on
the fritz and cost $145 in repairs. Now I'm not even game enough to get it
out on video to see how it ends. I didn't even get up to the part where they
crash landed before the tape broke during the recording of it... I managed to
rejoin the tape so I could see the first part. The problem is that it's only
ever been shown as a late, late night movie here.

Carolyn
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:53:30 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:20:07 GMT Rita Marie Rouvalis said:
>about half the price.  Her publisher is Addison Wesley, and I found it
>in a local bookstore.  You can ftp the text from world.std.com in the
>Quantum directory, but for $11 it's nice to have bound and sitting on
>the desk.
>
    Agre....its the best beginning book by far, despite the errors....

I think her announcement said you could only ftp the first three
chapters, didn't it?  I thought the other chapters were coming later....

cyclops
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In a previous article, TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain) says:


>        Nope.  I know all that.  My point is that bread is the staff of life
>        whether you're thinking of the Lord's Prayer or the ha'motze or 'Good
>        bread/good meat/good God/let's eat.'  The SOL is by no means specific
>        to (or specifically referred to in those words) in the Lord's Prayer.
>
Nope, quite right.  But, it is a pretty standard connection, providing one's
memory is wired the right way.  It was supposed to be a clue.:-)

>        Had the question been simply "What is the 'staff of life'?"  I would
>        have known the answer right away -- it's the reference to the LP that
>        threw me.

Why?  Because they didn't make you memorize it as a kid?  If they had, you
probably would have made the connection too.  It was supposed to be a hint....

>        I like my bread in liquid form, too.
>
When offered the choice of turning the raw ingredients into Wonderbread or
beer, I'd pick beer too.:-)  Or Malta, maybe.  Then again, if the choice
is between Budweiser and Wonderbread, make mine Malta definitely.:-)


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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (gilbertsmith) writes:
> That's because you and I, STS, go together like a horse and carriage.

Who wears the bridle?

--karsten

(And who cracks the whip?)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:48:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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> Now I ask you, if all I have is F keys how can I accomplish any of the
> above?  As I said before, PF (programmed function) is ancient talk (but

That's exactly what I've wondered when I've been tossed onto a VM system
while wandering the highways or the netways.  I think I've mentioned before
that my concept of hell is a place with instructions about PF keys, strange
words like 'running' and 'holding' on the bottom right corner of the screen,
and angry beeps when you try to accomplish anything.

Oops.  I've gotta log off and go talk to the TAs.  I won't tell them about
the PF, running, holding, beeping nightmare.  I'll stick to pleasures like
grepping, tailing, fingering.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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*** Resending note of 01/06/93 12:55

.......deleted bunch of nerdy techie stuff (I'm badly influenced in
current thinking by book Joyce bought me "Windows for Dummies" that
has little nerd icon warning of nerdy info following ....actually I
kind of like reading "nerdy" stuff)

>notice that here, as in other programs I'm familiar with, the escape
>character is represented by ^Y (that is, control-bracket).

>Any of this help?

>Michael E. Macmillan

Thanks Michael, I think it will.  And Crosstalk does allow scripts, identified
by @(name) when you wish to have defined key enter a series of commands.
Just learned yesterday that we are doing away with old Lee Data Controller
and firing up Kermit ....guess I have to learn about frogs now.

Didn't have opportunity to play any yesterday, as, and almost hate to say it,
went home sick. (whine, whine, whine, whine)

Thanks Michael ...you're advice is really appreciated.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:41:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Back, but not back

Hi all.  Emily, Karen, and Karsten were fun folks to meet for
dinner.  I'm back in DeKalb, but not yet ready to jump back on
the list.  Looks promising for ice boating this weekend.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and <Wheeeeeeee> (on the lifted tack, of course)
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maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor) writes:
> The note that keeps bouncing isn't crucial.  It's a
> comparison of Karsten and Bernard.  :-)

I'm the one who fixes the hardware.  Bernard fixes the software.

--karsten
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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Jenna,
 I'm interested in the cookbook - contributing and/or ordering.  I guess I
missed the original posting explaining it.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      How to make me cringe...
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I'm listening to the confirmation hearings for Les Aspin as Secretary of
Defense.  He's very highly regarded as an expert on defense and master of the
intricacies of high tech.  He's very bright.

Why, then, must he send a shiver up my spine every time he mispronounces the
word 'nuclear'?  Why do so many learned people say 'nucular'?

Why ask why?

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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Croning suggestion
              10 Jan 1993 17:30:05 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

>> Why don't y'all have it here in Edinburg. That way it would cost me next
>
>If it were a week earlier, I might like that.  I've got classes at 7, 8, and
>10 the morning of the 19th and probably Faculty Council from 2 till whenever
>that afternoon.  And then I'll be back in the 7 a.m. class Monday, the 22nd.
>Since I doubt that there are any direct flights from here to Edinburg, getting
>there would consume a good bit of time.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I humbly submit that the fact you will be in Faculty Council from 2 till
whenever on the 19th decides the issue of croning site.  Why did you even
bother with a straw vote?  Starkville it is!

brad
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              7 Jan 1993 13:02:07 -0500 from <BEAMSMATT@URVAX.URICH.EDU>

Matthew,
  Do you have a forced-air or the other type of furnace?  Before we got
a forced-air furnace for the house in Mogadore, my room felt like Siberia
(BTW, did you know they use vodka for anti-freeze there?).

Evelyn
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> >Thanks to Torkel, don't think I could ever read another Burke again.

> Funny you should say that.  Thanks to Tokel, I picked up a copy of
> _Black Cherry Blues_ in a bookstore Saturday night and have made a
> start on reading it.  If I don't finish, it will more likely be
> Burke's fault.

Course, it'll be Burke's fault, I wasn't implying otherwise.  See, I had
read a couple of his books, but wasn't a great fan of Burke before Torkel
mentioned him on the list.  (In fact, I had trouble finishing the second one
if i remember right.)  Anyway, after reading isolated sentences/phrases, it's
as if the things I didn't like in his writing have been highlighted, and
indelibly stuck in my mind.  That's why I doubt if I could read him again.

I've begun to appreciate good translation more than ever, though.

-rashmi
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Blinded by Geography

>>O.K...... Where were all you people that did Geography at high school when
>>I needed you? I got had by Mka on "What is the deepest land gorge in the
>>world?" The answer to that question is 'The Grand Canyon' as was stated on
>>the card according to my youngest son who has just completed 3 Unit Geography
>>in his HSC. All the others that Mka cited were in fact 'mountain gorges' and
>>therefore not proper answers to the question. A 'land gorge' is a gorge
>>surrounded by plateaux.
>
>        Hell's Canyon isn't a 'mountain gorge' but it *is* deeper than Grand
>        Canyon.
>
>        Not that I'd accept MKA's pleadings -- in TP, the card knows all (even
>        when it's clearly incorrect).


1.   I would like a source for this "land gorge is a gorge surrounded by
plateaus" buisiness please.

2.   The Grand Canyon, Hell's Canyon, Colca Canyon, and Kali Gandaki River Gorge
are *all* river gorges.  Interesting, isn't it, that of all of them, only my
choice is called a gorge--a gorge and a canyon are not the same thing.

3.   Neal never has been one to accept truth over authority.

4.   Not accepting my appeal would have at least had the salutary effect of
getting me out of the game, though perhaps at the cost of a nuclear flame war.

Shallow up, I say.  Get flat and dance.  The year's young yet.  Green, wet
behind the ears, not even ready for its first shave.

-K

-Mka
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In a previous article, ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU () says:

>Yeah...I dislike these vents because I spend a lot of time sitting on
>the floor.  But I *love* the central air!  I'm in a new building, too.
>I've been in this apt. for 6 years, and I think it was built only a few
>years before I moved in.  I think this must have been built by a southern
>builder...  I can't think of anyone else I know who has ceiling vents.
>No attic, btw...my furnace is in a closet in the hall.
>
No attic, no basement...where do you store your stuff?! :-)  Sounds like
you need one of those reversible fans that will push heat off of the 
ceiling....  Heck, so do I, and better insulation on the room the computer's
in.  Hottest in summer, coldest in winter.  Yep - a real compunerd room.

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