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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:32:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.070905.13393@rice.edu> pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao) writes:
>
>Kumble hasn't yet played any test. But, just because he happened to be very
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wrong! He played in the 2nd test vs England in 1990 (the test which was saved by SRT).
I think he captured 4 wickets.

>economical in the ODIs he played in (2/19 off 10 on debut in England in a high
>scoring match), people tend to think he is a oneday bowler and his style doesn't
>suit tests. It is unfortunate to conclude that he won't do very well in tests
>without giving him a chance. IMHO, he deserves to be promoted for sometime. If
>I was a selector, I would've ditched Hirwani long back and promoted Kumble in
>his place (even if he failed initially). He is IMHO a Chandra in making, he is
>a long term prospect (unlike Hirwani's and Siva's).
>
>His style has a lot of similarities to Chandra's (he, in fact, modeled his style
>on Chandra's). Wasn't Chandra successful in tests?
>
>As Kumble bowls fastish leg-breaks (with a lot of top-spin), it is tough to
>handle him and it makes his style tailor-made for ODIs, where the stress is
>on economy. But, what is it that makes one think it can't be effective in
>taking wickets? He has to be tried, after all ......
>
< stuff deleted >
>
>
>Talking about the Indian bowling, Kapil is IMHO one of the best bowlers in the
>world right now, though people may have difficulties in accepting it because of
>his wicket drought in the 2 years before the Aussie tour and the common feeling
>that Kaps was finished. On the Aussie tour, he took 27 wkts at 23.89 while
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think he took 21 wickets.

>McDermott (possibly at the peak of his career, more or less) took 31 at 21.32.
>
One good series after a long time does not make one of the best bowlers in the world 
IMHO. Let's wait for some more time. I'm hoping he'd be made the captain again.
That will surely make him more motivated.
>
>PVR Narasimha [SRT is simply the best
>               Whether it's an ODI or a test] Rao

- Sougata

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Sougata Mukherjea (sougata@cc.gatech.edu)
Graphics Visualization and Usability Center
College of Computing
Georgia Institute of Technology 
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From: cdcs@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin D. C. Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: County Championship 1992 July 24 (Friday)
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:44:31 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.


County Championship 1992 July 24 (Friday)
Day 1 of 3

At Abergavenny
Glamorgan (3) 276 (A Dale 67, H Morris 71, GD Rose 4-59)
Somerset (4) 24-0

At Cheltenham
Sussex (4) 324 (DM Smith 81, NJ Lenham 83, AP Wells 63, CA Walsh 4-39)
Gloucestershire (4) 43-0

At Leicester
Leicestershire (5) 193 (TJ Boon 58, MC Ilott 4w, NA Foster 4w)
and 35-0
Essex (4) 75 (PA Nixon 4c)

At Lords
Middlesex (3) 344-8 (MA Roseberry 172, MW Gatting 90, PJ Berry 6w)
v Durham (1)

At Birmingham
Nottinghamshire (4) 347-6 (RT Robinson 156*, M Saxelby 66)
v Warwickshire (2)

At Worcester
Derbyshire (2) 246 (PD Bowler 50, JE Morris 67, SR Lampitt 4w,
                    RK Illingworth 4w)
Worcestershire (4) 29-0



Matches continue Saturday, Monday


CDC
From: afrance@acorn.co.uk (Alastair France)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Score at 14:30 BST
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:29:11 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England


        CEEFAX 342  Fri 24 Jul  14:23/07
ENGLAND v PAKISTAN  Pakistan won toss  
PAKISTAN 1st innings:                  
Sohail     c Atherton   b Mallender 23 
Ramiz                   b Pringle   17 
Mujtaba                 b Mallender  7 
Miandad    c Smith      b Pringle    6 
Malik      not out                  82 
Haq        c Hick       b Munton     5 
Akram      run out                  12 
Moin       c Hick       b Lewis      2 
Younis     c Hick       b Mallender  6 
Mushtaq                 b Lewis     11 
Aqib       c Hick       b Munton     0 
                        Extras      26 
TOTAL (all out)                    197 
                                       
Fall: 1-34 2-54 3-60 4-68 5-80 6-111   
      7-117 8-128 9-192                

                                       
               O    M    R    W        
                                       
Lewis         23    6   48    2        
Mallender     23    7   72    3        
Pringle       17    6   41    2        
Munton        10.3  3   22    2        
Gooch          6    3   11    0        
                                       
Extras 26 (1b, 2lb, 7w, 16nb)          

                                       
Lunchtime report from Ceefax

Graham Gooch and Mike Atherton took    
full advantage of some wayward bowling 
to take England to 54-0 at lunch after 
Pakistan were all out for 197.         
                                       
Gooch helped himself to five boundaries
as he reached 22 not out and Atherton  
hit three fours in his 25 as they put  
together a 50 stand off 10 overs.      
                                      
                                      
                                      

ENGLAND 1st innings:                   
                                       
Gooch      not out                  38 
Atherton   not out                  33 
                                       
                        Extras      14 
TOTAL (for no wicket)               85 
                                       
____________________________________________________________________________

     Alastair France, Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge CB5 8PB, England

      Views expressed are my own, and not necessarily those of Acorn

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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: absurd ranji rule
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:16:19 GMT

In <1992Jul28.011022.7244@rice.edu> pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao) writes:

>Oh, no! How can anyone forget the 1991 Ranji final between Kapil's Haryana
>and Manjrekar's Bombay (with Veng, Sachin, Kambli in the team)?

>That was easily the best Ranji finals of the last decade or two. What a close
>match! What a bowling by Kapil, what a solid knock by Sachin and an exciting
>(unbeaten) century by Veng! With most Ranji matches finishing without both the
>teams getting all out even once, it was refreshing to see such a close match
>with a result (win for Haryana by 3 (?) runs) .........

	Notch up another embarrassment thanks to my not-so-elephantine 
memory. And to think that I was there, in the Garware Pavilion, on the first
day, when Haryana's Deepak Sharma played a most unattractive, unorthodox, and
unentertaining knock of 190+ ..... Ajay Jadeja was good though, in his brief 
innings of 90+. Terrific batting by Vengsarkar and SRT on the last day, huh ?

>|> >Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com

>|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran  Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>PVR Narasimha [SRT is simply the best
>               Whether it's an ODI or a test] Rao
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From: sagrawal@us.oracle.com (Sanjay Agrawal)
Subject: 4th test (2nd day)
Originator: sagrawal@dvlseq.us.oracle.com
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:51:36 GMT
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

At tea, England are 130 for no loss, in reply to Pakistan's total
of 197 (Malik -82 no). Both Gooch and Atherton(?) have reached their
half-centuries.
From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pak vs Eng T-4
Keywords: before lunch, D2
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:01:46 GMT
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

England are 36/0, waqar and akram bowling.
gooch just hit to 4's off akram . earlier
england ran 6. due to a very poor throw by
akram, resulting in 3 more runs as a result of
the overthrow. i think the record for the most
runs of a single delivery is 9.
Any one out there can confirm this, and the occasion. ?

Pakistan were earlier bowled out for 197.
salim malik not out on 82

Aamir
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From: psbapat@mtu.edu (BAPAT)
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:04:46 GMT

 
> 
> ps
> Mushtaq may not have a very good series against India  (quite possibly he 
> will not). India has superb players of spin and I can not recall any other world 
> class spinner being successful against them in the last two decades. 
> 
> 	--SAN
> 

There have been two notable examples to the contrary, both times India ended 
up losing the test matches:

Pat Pocock and Phil Edmonds in Gatting's team in India
and
Tauseef Ahmed and Iqbal Qasim in Imran's team again in India!

-- 

Pushpak Bapat                      | LIFE IS LIKE A SEWER; WHAT 
e-mail: psbapat@mtu.edu            | YOU GET OUT OF IT DEPENDS  
Michigan Technological University  | ON WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT !!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:01:14 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: WHAT ABOUT CRICKET!!!!!!!!
 <1992Jul23.222833.27159@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu>

In article <1992Jul23.222833.27159@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu>,
vu0208@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (!) says:
>
>Folks in Pakistan/India have no access to RSC to post the scores.
that is not true. there was someome from Hewlett Packard in Bangalore who
was posting ranji/duleep/irani trophy scores earlier this year and last year.
its more likely that posting to the net is too expensive in india to make it
practical.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: faheem2@rs6210.ecs.rpi.edu (Muhammad Faheem)
Subject: Re: info needed
Reply-To: faheem2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:56:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.141236.4682@gw.wmich.edu>, x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Jul22.174946.17755@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, mkyeddan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Murali Yeddanapudi) writes:
|> > Hello netters, 
|> >                Does someone remember the breathtaking one-day match
|> > (IND-PAK) at Sharjah, in which Miandad hit a sixer off the last ball
|> > from Chethan Sharma ? I was wondering if PAK needed only 4 runs off the
|> > last ball or more in order to win. Could someone post the info ? Thanks
|> > in advance.
|> > 
|> > vijay
|> > 
|> > 
|> >>In that classic one-day match Pakistan needed 4 runs off the last
|> >>bowl which Miandad got by hitting a memorable six.
|> 
|> >>Atif Mumtaz

  Wasn't it 3 runs instead of four? Anyway he got those runs on final ball.

 
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From: diwadkva@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.eduVaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Subject: Re: Double Internationals
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:59:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.151830.17699@cs.brown.edu>, ST402420@brownvm.brown.edu writes...
> 
>Just read that Gary Lineker kept wickets for MCC against Germany a few days
>ago at Lord's. Apparently his contribution to `MCC's hefty total of 289 for
>six was a single to square leg. On his way back to the dressing room he said,
>`I always score one against the Germans.' Joke ein Englischer.' (from The
>Guardian). The German team consisted of nine Asians, an Englishman and was
>led by an Australian microbiologist.
> 
>Viv.

	- Apparently Linekar made his debut against the Germans (not sure of
	this) in '87 and scored 70.  Not bad I must say.  This particular
	game was a oneday/one innings affair which ended in a draw with the
	Germans 180+/9.  

						- Vaibhav.
From: D.G.D.Clark@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Headingley - lunch
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:26:15 GMT

Pakistan 197 all out

Salim Malik  82 not out
Mushtaq Ahmed  b Lewis 11 (192)
Aqib Javed  c Hick b Munton 0

England 54 for 0

Gooch  22 not out
Atherton  25 not out

WA  6-3-16-0
AJ  3-0-17-0
WY  3-0-17-0

Pakistan are desperate for a wicket and their fielding is getting a
bit ragged. England are scoring at about 5 an over. There was a
run 6 due to overthrows.
From: diwadkva@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Three umpires at a cricket match
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:30:00 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul22.193204.27648@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan) writes...

>Just read in the July 15 edition of the Times (London), that the South
>African cricket board is seriously considering using three umpires in 
>each of the Tests against India later this year. 

	- Actually my reading of the article is that it is a done deal 
	as far as the four test matches go but will not use them in 
	the onedays.

>     On the face of it, this sounds like a good idea. There is so much money
>in the international game today, and players are always complaining about
>umpires' decisions - this may help reduce the level of dissent. One of the
>drawbacks is that it may slow the flow of the game at times, since everyone
>on the field will wait for the third umpire's ruling (I suppose this umpire
>will only rule if asked to by the two on the field). This experiment has been
>tried in American football, with somewhat mixed reviews. Football flows at 
>a slower pace, though, and the gaps between play times tend to be larger.

	- On the flip side, certain classes of decisions (actually primarily
	LBWs) are fundamentally subjective and not necessarily resolvable
	even using instant replays.  I think replays will help with runouts
	etc. which are quite difficult.  The article did not mention the
	conditions under which the replay would be used.  That is always,
	or only when the umps in the middle request it or ...?  I hope the
	basic plea for "third-country" umps does not get lost in this 
	shuffle.  

	- Incidently, the article claimed that the scheme had the blessings
	of Don Bradman, i.e. he has a favorable view of it.

							    - Vaibhav.
> 
> 
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From: kumar@ditsydh.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Cricket News from Down Under
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:43:18 GMT

Sachin Tendulkar strikes.........


Sachin Tendulkar displayed his batting excellence with a superb century against England XI
in Jesmond, yesterday.

Rest of the World (Captain : Martin Crowe)

316 for 9 in 55 overs

Sachin : 100 in 115 balls

Sachin had  128 runs partnership with Martin Crowe.

England XI :  317 for 8 in 51 overs

Chris Lewis : 66 in 52 balls

John Morris (Derbyshire) : 72


England won the match comfortably.


Cheers,

Ramkumar
 
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From: cdcs@st-andrews.ac.UK (Colin D. C. Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket.scores
Subject: County Championship 1992 July 24,25,27
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:14:48 GMT
Organization: Mail/News gateway


County Championship 1992 July 24,25,27 (Friday, Saturday, Monday)

At Abergavenny
Glamorgan (5) 276 (A Dale 67, H Morris 71, GD Rose 4-59)
and 308-5 dec (H Morris 117, MP Maynard 57)
Somerset (7) 250-5 dec (AN Hayhurst 70)
and 293-8 (ND Burns 71*, GD Rose 50)
MATCH DRAWN


At Cheltenham
Sussex (8) 324 (DM Smith 81, NJ Lenham 83, AP Wells 63, CA Walsh 4-39)
and 242-9 dec (NJ Lenham 52, MCJ Ball 5w))
Gloucestershire (22) 221 (GD Hodgson 82, B Donelan 6-77)
and 346-6 (CWJ Athey 181, RC Russell 57)
GLOUCESTERSHIRE won by 4 WICKETS


At Leicester
Leicestershire (21) 193 (TJ Boon 58, MC Ilott 4w, NA Foster 4w)
and 230 (TJ Boon 52, NE Briers 61, SJW Andrew 4-54)
Essex (4) 75 (PA Nixon 4c)
and 280 (PJ Prichard 106, DJ Millns 5-67)
LEICESTERSHIRE won by 68 RUNS


At Lords
Middlesex (23) 366 (MA Roseberry 172, MW Gatting 90, PJ Berry 6w)
and 159-3 (MA Roseberry 81)	
Durham (3) 232 (PJ Berry 76, PCR Tufnell 5-83, JE Emburey 4-94)
and 118 (JE Emburey 5-43)
MIDDLESEX won by 175 RUNS

At Birmingham
Nottinghamshire (23) 415-7 dec (RT Robinson 189, M Saxelby 66, GW Mike 61*)
and 197-3 dec (RT Robinson 84, P Johnson 107*)
Warwickshire (4) 266-8 dec (BN French 6c)
and 229 (Pennet 4-58)
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE won by 117 RUNS


At Worcester
Derbyshire (5) 246 (PD Bowler 50, JE Morris 67, SR Lampitt 4w,
                    RK Illingworth 4w)
and 285-2 dec (PD Bowler 100*, CJ Adams 140*)
Worcestershire (7) 266 (TS Curtis 86)
and 162-3 (TS Curtis 96, WPC Weston 50*)
MATCH DRAWN


TABLE                  Pld.  Won  Btg.   Blg.   Tot.

1    Essex              15    7    45     40    197
2    Leicestershire     15    6    28     42    166
3    Nottinghamshire    13    6    35     33    164
4    Warwickshire       14    4    33     45    142
5    Kent               13    5    34     27    141
6    Hampshire          14    4    41     34    139
7    Northamptonshire   14    4    41     33    138
8    Middlesex          14    3    43     39    130
9    Worcestershire     15    3    39     42    129

10   Derbyshire         14    4    29     35    128
     Somerset           14    3    40     40    128
12   Sussex             14    3    40     37    125
13   Gloucestershire    15    3    29     42    119
14   Surrey             14    3    38     30    116
15   Lancashire         15    1    48     41    105
16   Durham             14    2    31     36     99
17   Yorkshire          13    2    34     32     98
18   Glamorgan          12    1    26     28     70

CDC
From: x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Double Internationals
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:43:13 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Jul22.165835.27340@unislc.uucp>, ramana@unislc.uucp (Ramana Ramachandran) writes:
> The other day I heard that kapil is playing for east bengal in soccer 
> which made me think how many cricketers have represented their country
> in another sport?
> 
> 	One named gopalan (?) represented India in both hockey and cricket.
> 	Iam not sure of the name but the "gopal" part of it is definite!
> 
> 	Also I remember charlesworth of Australia (I suppose hockey fans
> 	would know him better) playing for western australia and thus does not
> 	qualify as a double international.
> 
> Please add more...
> 
> ramana ramachandran
> ramana@unislc.slc.unisys.com



The classic Test opener of Pakistan turned film star Mohsin
Khan, was once a National Junior champion of Pakistan in Badminton.

Atif Mumtaz
x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu

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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: T4 D3 Just before lunch
Date: 25 Jul 1992 06:54:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


England comfortably cruising at about 292/2.  The wicket that fell was:

Robin Smith c. Miandad b. Aquib ...... 42 (107 balls)

Stewart is the new man in, and survived a couple of leg before appeals
in Aquib's first over to him.  I have completely lost the reception for
now.  I'll be fiddling with the dial for a while but don't really expect
much success -- although if someone has a safe they need to break into,
I have the requisite experience and finger agility now :)

My next post may be after a long while.:-(

Here's some consolation...



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From: hasan@vxcrna.cern.ch (LAUGHING LEPER)
Subject: Re: England 2nd Innings
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.182953.23617@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@.bellcore.com writes...
>In article 21825@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU,  aam9n@hagar1.acc.Virginia.EDU (Ali Ahmad Minai) writes:
> 
>>
>>A sense of superiority is certainly most of it. I'm just not sure 
>>it is "racist". Also, all of us --- you and I included --- have a sense
>>of superiority in some way. Of course, we do not think it "misplaced",
>>but others might. The way to counter the TCCB is not by raising slogans
>>of "racism" but by thwarting it strategically. As I said, the importance
>>of TCCB in the ICC is diminishing. With a few well-organized moves, it
>>can be put in its place --- the cricket board of one of nine test playing
>>countries. No more.
>> 
>Only if the ICC agrees to take away the veto power of Australia and England. 
>That decision is supposed to be debated next year. 

According to the newspaper reports that I've read, the two founding
members have agreed to forego their veto but the new legislation
would come into effect from the next year.

> 
>BTW,  as an example of another brainless piece of legislation, the 
>ICC match referee is to be paid out of the fines levied during the test match. 

Is it so? And how are they going to pay the match referee if the
two contesting teams show exemplary behaviour?

> 
>		--SAN
> 
>
-Hasan
From: aamir@cs.sfu.ca (Aamir Husain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pak vs Eng T-4
Keywords: misc day's comments
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:56:51 GMT
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Score from  sports round-up at 10.45 PST, i.e 18.45 GMT
15 mins of scheduled play remaining

Pakistan are 155/8, shortly before the close

malik -53 no
mushtaq - 5 no

the wkts that fell today
akram - 12 runout (6th wkt)
moin
waqar (i would guess as that was probably the batting order)

England's 11:
gooch, stewart, atherton, smith, gower, ramprakash, hick, lewis, pringle, 
munton & mallender

pakistan same 11.

the ball has swung about quite a bit. i dont see this test match going 
past 3days, definitely 4. good from our point of view as we have one
less sleepless night in in north america.

Aamir