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From: sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HELLO! I AM WANTING TO BE MARRIED!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:59:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

>>I AM LOOKING FOR QUALITY WIFE! SHE MUST BE VERY BEAUTIFUL SO WE WILL
>>HAVE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN!

>	You can perhaps shop in Kmart, Robinsons or the Broadway.
>	Perhaps if you need something in bulk quantity go to the
>	Price Club for good deals. Sears might also help.
>

	Damn me! I only have a Fedco card !!



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF KERALA
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
	<1ilt7eINNfsr@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:10:20 GMT

In article <1ilt7eINNfsr@shelley.u.washington.edu> shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:

 |
 |Well, what seems to be the problem....?
 |
 |Simply put, Kashmir and now Kerala want to become independent states.
 |They have shown a strong determination and majority in numbers with
 |conviction of their belief in independence.
 |
 |Indians have always been champions of democracy and human rights, and should
 |be commended for that. Also the majority who are Hindoos are followers of a 
 |most peaceful and harmonious religion, namely, hindooism.
 |
 |I am sure that highly accomplished and proud Indians should have no problems
 |with solving this situation quite amicably, and without any further bloodshed.
 |
 |After all, please donot say that Indians are not experienced and donot know 
 |how. First, Pakistan and then Bangladesh are living and thriving examples of
 |Indian democratic and human rightist values. 
 |
 |In fact Indians are so democratic that they will go out of their way in helping
 |and even participating in getting a part of Pakistan, then East Pakistan, 
 |independent, based upon democratic and secular principals.
 |
 |SO PLEASE GIVE KASHMIR AND KERALA THEIR RIGHTFUL INDEPENDENCE, WITHOUT FURTHER

And then why not all the provinces in Bengal Assam and Bihar that are becoming
muslim mazority due to the refugee influx. Then you come in all states
and gradually throw us in Indain ocean. Funny isn't it? 




 |DELAY/ASAP/PRONTO/ON THE DOUBLE/   IT SEEMS, THAT IT IS THE ONLY CIVILIZED AND DEMOCRATIC THING TO DO !
 |
 |Jai Hind!!!!!  Hindustaan Zindabaad!!!!!
 |
 |
 |Best Regards,
 |Shams Hasan. 
--
With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Four People Burnt Alive in Renewed Clashes
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:35:47 GMT
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University

apnews reports:
============================================================================

	   The December riots were especially violent in Bombay, where 202
people were killed, mostly Muslims shot by police to quell
disturbances. Police now say the mobs are now attacking one another
with knives and stones.
=============================================================================


I can't imagine Bombayites have finally succumbed to such hysteria. I thought
Bommbay is immune to disturbances in the rest of the country. The calm that
prevailed when Rajiv and Indira Gandhi were murdered, lent credence to such 
a belief.

I guess the extreme police action is reponsible for the renewed trouble. Its
imperative the govt. does some research in riot control. Its obvious they have
no idea how to control mobs. They either stand by or do nothing when mobs
go on a destruction spree or they end up killing more people than the mobs 
themselves and create more problems than solve any.

--Javed.
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bikel bela .. theker somoy
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:09:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

aaaaiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooo...


shala, ki kelo mairi,

nowhereman hoe bose' bose' chhirchi rutgers e odike dekhi
kon shala aamar naam nie thek e proxy dichche??????


--partho
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: R2SK9@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Srinivas Kandikattu)
Subject: ERNET sites in India
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:48:38 GMT

Hi,
 
Could any one send me the list of ernet sites in india please.
 
Thanx in advance
 
srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Re: Vegetarianism in TN (was Re: Cannibalism in TamilNadu)
Organization: -
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 20:16:50 GMT

rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.225554.1943@nas.nasa.gov> raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan) writes:
>>How can one preach vegetarianism
>>to an eskimo? Food habits have been mostly dependent of what is 
>>available. What may appear to be wrong to one person may appear
>>to be perfectly normal to many others.  
>I hope you are not comparing Tamils to Eskimos. 

What I meant was people eat whatever organic matter available
to them. Those who live near the sea eat more fish, those live 
in fertile lands eat more grain, vegetables and animals which eat 
those grain and vegetables so on. All I am saying is that it is 
silly to argue vegetarianism is superior for moral reasons.

>>                    At least they didn't do it the way they did
>>in China, during the cultural revolution days.

>What's the point, about the Chinese?   

Those who are squeamish may want to skip the rest of this posting.

What I wrote was purely anecdotal.  Recently there were reports
that during the Cultural Revolution days cannibalism was used
as a punishment.  There was a school were the principal was
executed and was served as cafeteria food, as a reminder 
to the 'educated people' what would happen to them if they
opposed the revolution.

>Rakesh Patel

-Raghavan, V.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dpatel@happy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dharmendra Patel)
Subject: Test 1 2 3
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:10:05 GMT

This is a Test.

Test 1 2 3 

Test

Thanks

Dharmendra
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: Re: attacks on Scindia
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:20:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.105308.29098@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> chakri@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Chakrapani.Avala) writes:
> In reply icaen.uiowa.edu (Abhijit Dutta) writes:
>>    Going by the congress culture and the type of propaganda they use
>>    against their opponent, most likely case is that this incident
>>    is cooked up by Mr. Scindia himself to create sympathy for congress
>>    and to villify BJP.
>>
>>    Attacking a scumbag nuisance like M R Scindia BJP won't gain anything.
>>    The last thing BJP needs to create at this moment is a martyr out of
>>    an asshole like M R Scindia!!
>>
>>    -jit
>
>   Well said. The riots in Delhi, that followed the Indira Gandhi's 
>   assassination were engneered by the flithy Congress-I. CBI prepared a 
>   charge sheet on H.K.L Bhagat and MP Sajjan kumar, as prime accused for
>   enginnering the riots, in which thousands of innocent Sikhs were killed.As
>   usual B.J.P ,and others were blamed for the riots(Congee Propaganda).
>   why CBI is unable to file the case ?  GOI may be able to give the ans.
>   -Chakri

    
    Unfortunately, inciting anti-social elements, thereby causing riots and
then blaming RSS/BJP has become too common in Congress raj. There was an
article in "Indian Express" about the riots after the removal of the
disputed structure in Ayodhya. In that article, some top police
and military officers alleged that these riots were engineered by
some politicians (read Arjun Singh and Co).

Can somebody please post this article on SCI? It appeared in the "Indian
Express" sometime around December 10, 1992.

-- Girish.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: achoudhu@us.oracle.com (Akhil Choudhury)
Subject: The Assamese insecurity about Bengalies, the History
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:39:24 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.



	In 1879, when the British signed the Treaty of Yandabo (Burma)
with the Burmese, Assam and Burma were annexed into the British Indian
empire which till then ended in Bengal.  The British took along some
Bengali clerks and servicemen to Assam to establish their
administration. To suit themselves, in terms of their children's
education and general propagation of their culture, these Bengalis
convinced the British that Assamese was not a different language --
rather it was only a dialect of Bengali. This was not difficult to
prove to the British because the scripts were nearly identical. It was
easy to gloss over the vast differences in pronunciation, vocabulary
and other linguistic characteristics simply because the British
administrators did not have the necessary experience to appreciate
these crucial differences at that point.

As a result, for about twenty years, Bengali was introduced in schools and
colleges of Assam as the primary medium of instruction. In their
remarkable fight, Assamese writers along with the help of radical
English writers reversed that decree by showing concrete evidence that
Assamese was a language in its own right. These writers were called
Assamese chauvinists then. Even today, very few people know that
Assamese is a sibling, rather than a descendant, language of Bengali.

                          Sanskrit
                              |
                              |
                -----------------------------
                |             |             |
            Assamese       Bengali        Oriya

      Though factual errors have been corrected, the Assamese found it
difficult to overcome the mistrust towards Bengalis after this cultural
hegemony. This mistrust is even more remarkable considering that Assam
has, through history, been known to accept and absorb various cultures,
as wide as from Egypt (a form of Sufi Islam) all the way to Thailand
(the Ahoms). The difference in those situations was that they did not
try to wipe away a culture -- they added to it.

The Assamese started to regard the Bengalis in Assam as intruding
guests who always wanted to overshadow the host culture and language.
The Assamese fear of losing their identity was bolstered by what
happened in Tripura. The original people of Tripura (the Tripuri) are a
minority now, thanks to mostly illegal migration of Bengali speaking
people from Bangaladesh.

Today I have more Bengali friends than I had in Assam.  And I keep
telling them to take something from us rather than expecting us to take
everything.

Akhil Choudhury

P.S. I speak for neither Assam nor Oracle
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajes@struts.uib.no (Kalki)
Subject: AIR FARE TO DELHI
Reply-To: sudhan@hauk.uib.no
Organization: UiB, Norway
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:07:28 GMT



 Hi, 
     
   I am travelling to India ( Delhi ) and back, around March, 93 with a two year 
 old kid. The origin of journey is from Los Angeles.

 I have been looking into special offers from different airlines.
 
 I will appreciate any suggestions for cheap tickets and/or offers
 giving a good rebate on children's ticket above two years of age.
 I have heard that some airlines offer some discounts for U.S. citizens. Any Info.
 on that is welcome.  
  
 Thanks in anticipation.

  Sudhanshu Arya.





---

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chakri@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Chakrapani.Avala)
Subject: Instant coffee, Info req.
Keywords: Instant coffee 
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 21:16:52 GMT

Hi netters,
I would like to have some suggestions on instant coffee. I tried Nescafe,
Folgers etc.But I could't get the maza of Indian instant coffee.  I feel , the
taste of instant coffe here differs from Indian instant coffee. Even the taste
of Nescafe is different between Indian and US makes. Anybody had any idea of 
any brand(instant coffee), which has a taste near to Indian instant coffee. 
I highly appreciate your suggestions.

Chakri.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43185 soc.culture.pakistan:19283
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Chacko is back...and Deb is happy:-)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:32:07 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


George Chacko writes:

> In my previous description of him I add culturally destitute,
> insensitive, marginally literate, blustering savage.

The man is back! And in his characteristic style too:-)
Waiting to see the rest of the thunder and fire between
the two, and I am sure it will be better than the one
between Mostafa and Deepak:-)

All in jest,

Bijoy

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Subject: Re: Fundemental rights and the Indian Constitution
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:37:12 CST

In article <1iq2ovINNgpr@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> vidynath@math.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyanath K Rao) writes:

>(3) Nothing in this article shall prevent the State from making any special
>provisions for women and children.

Yet another clear-cut case of minority appeasement! Article 15(3) is
descriminatory towards men, not to mention age descrimination!!

>Vidhyanath Rao			It is the man, not the method, that solves

-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Massacre in Kashmir
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:21:47 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1993Jan8.173003.46230@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <C0Jn6G.3v8@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v122npej@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
>(Sareer A Fazili) writes:
>> This is in response to Vivek, he of the firm faith in the "security forces"
>> lodged some 500,000 strong in Kashmir. It is too bad that some of us can't see
>> the writing on the wall when it comes to the brutal force being used by the

Just a small point here.  The total number of troops employed in the
BSF as well as the CRPF and ITBP, in Jammu and Kashmir itself is not 
more than 100,000 at the most. There is no space in the place itself 
to accomodate so many troops as you have mentioned.

Regards,
Vivek.
-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43276 soc.culture.pakistan:19320
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Ahmedabad news
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 07:16:07 GMT

mshah@cs.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah) writes:


>	I just called up home yesterday. My brother told me that
>at least 108 people have been killed(unofficial figure) in last
>3 days. One of my indirect cousin got stabbed in the back.

>-Munil

The figure is too low, buddy. This is not of Ahmedabad's standard.
The standard riot day, 14th Jan is approaching.

	Wish your cousine Quick recovery and tell him to be back 
on terrace for kite flying. 

Bye
adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shrinand@carina.unm.edu (Shrinand Deshpande)
Subject: Re: Kashmir massacre (?)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 23:06:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

This is only a test. Ignore it.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Subject: Conflict Resolution Guidelines (Re: ACTUAL MOTIVE BEHIND THE RIOTS
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:45:37 GMT

In article <48332@ogicse.ogi.edu>, partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:
> The BJP's main objective appears apparently as establishing
> a Hindu temple at Ayodhya at any cost. The renewed riots in
> Bombay and Ahmedabad puzzle me. It looks to me like the 
> sequence seems pretty well planned. Now Tamils are being
> attacked. I am slowly seeing the clear picture of the actual
> motive - destabilize the nation and the government. Because
> BJP had economic liberalization in its agenda. Before they
> could get to that, Narasimha Rao pulled the rug from under their
> feet by liberalizing rather extensively, thereby "stealing"
> any positive opportunities for the BJP. How does one counter
> that? - Hit the stability of the nation. That will discourage
> the foriegn investors from coming forward to do business
> with India. That will bleed the nation for a while. Then there
> will be elections and "stability" will be the main issue of
> the election manifesto. The attacks on Tamils seems preplanned
> because during the last episode of riots, Tamil Nadu was pretty
> calm and to drag them into the blood bath, the best idea would
> be to attack them elsewhere. Short sighted politicians are dividing
> the nation. Now the Kazhagams in Tamil Nadu will enter the
> fray. Whether they'd target north Indians or not, they'd attack
> the Brahmin communities there for sure. If India has to survive
> as a nation, they must ban the BJP, The Kazhagams and all such
> parties and put their leaders in some remote place for about
> 25 years now. That's the only way out. This would be a good
> time to declare an emergency and arrest all trouble mongers
> and keep the country under a tight clamp for a couple of years.
> 
> Partha sarathy


Why is it that arresting people or bannning parties is the only solution
thought of on this net ?

For any problem there is a solution which does not involve arresting
people or banning parties. Just follow the following guidelines:

1. Maintain mutual respect. Temper your temper !
2. Listen empathetically. Put yourself in their shoes.
3. Separate the people from the problem.
4. Focus on interests behind positions (what's going on deep down ?)
5. Use creativity to get a range of solutions and look for a win-win
solution that will satisfy all concerned.
6. Use objective criterion independent of either party.

Alok
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: an3919@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Srinivas's questions. ( Was Re: Kuram Narayan..)
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:49:26 GMT


Srinivas writes:
> who are these "rest of the sub-humans'?

Well, all those ass-holes who get the benefit of reservation to
reach places they do not deserve, since they lack intellegence.
All those terrorists and killers of LTTE, DMK, PMK etc All the
sycophants in TN government...

> What is so "blood-thirsty " about them?

Who killed Rajiv Gandhi? Who is killing Indian citizens in the name of
some assholes in a foreign country? Who cares if those are badly treated 
in their country! What is their business in India? Feudal murderers in TN
is second to none in India interms of the bestial modus operandi and 
barbaric execution!

> And what is so glorious about 'Brahmin brains'?

The answer is self-explanatory! Those dravidians who kept on preaching
Dravidian greatness needed a foreigner ( MGR), a Brahmin ( Jayalalitha)
another foreigner ( Karunanithi- originally from AP) and a brahmin ( who
founded DMK?:-)) to rule them. How many scientists from TN are non-brahmin?
Who is CV Raman, Subrahmanian Chandrasekhar?? If any tamilian is famous
overseas or outside TN, he is either a Brahmin or a notorious terrorist!
( Incidentally,  I am not referring to non-Brahmins in other states who
may be as good! I am talking about these imbecile SC creeps in TN who are
so dirty that their sight itself makes one unholy).

> And what is so inglorious about non-Brahmin brains?

HA HA HA HA ! Nothing inglorious! Simply such a thing does not exist in
TN, My apologies again to Indians from other states. This truth does not
stand valid for them. Also, in spite of 80% reservation in TN, designed to
make Brahmins illeterate, 90% of all Tamils going to US are Brahmins who
evidently have better brains than to make temples for cheap movie actors:-)



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From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: IA plane crash - 40 dead
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:29:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill
Keywords: Indian Airlines Plane Crash

apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ An Indian Airlines plane carrying 155
people crashed in heavy fog while trying to land at New Delhi
airport early Saturday morning, officials said. All aboard
survived.
	   The leased Russian-built TU-154 jet overshot the landing strip
and broke up, said airline officials. Press Trust of India said the
plane caught fire, and 70 trucks were sent to douse the flames.
	   The crew of the plane was from Uzbekistan, because Indian
Airlines' pilots have been on strike for the past month and the
airline has hired airplanes and pilots from the former Soviet
republic.
	   Accounts of injuries varied. One airline official said only a
few passengers received bruises. Another official said a few
people, including the two pilots, were injured seriously.
	   ``We have no loss of life of passengers, but we are not sure
about one of the two pilots,'' said the duty officer of Indian
Airlines at the airport, indicating that the pilot was seriously
injured.
	   Press Trust of India reported that 100 people were evacuated
safely and at least 40 people were dead or injured.
	   Press Trust reported said passengers who were evacuated
complained that rescue teams arrived late, and passengers stampeded
for the exits when the plane came to rest.
	   The jet was flying from Hyderabad, 1,000 miles south of New
Delhi, to the Indian capital.
	   Indian Airlines leased half a dozen planes and their crews from
Uzbek Airlines after its lower ranking pilots walked off the job
demanding better pay and conditions.
	   The pilots' union protested that the TU-154s were unsafe, and
accused the state-owned airline of putting passengers at risk in
order to break the strike.
	   The airline argued that all the planes had undergone routine
safety inspections before they were sent to India.