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From: chaban@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Ed Chaban)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Ed_who_loves_the_show
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:18:40 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

> 
>I love the show, too, but *because* they have a "heavy social commentary",
>and aren't afraid of kissing up to get sponsors.  Tell me, would you 
>rather have them go off the air because of the way they are willing to
>tell it like it is and not compromise, or would you rather they become
>as "appropriate" for television as "Perfect Strangers", or all of the
>other shows on the air.  
>

I think I was agreeing with you.  I was simply expressing my concern that
we might see some "corporate censorship" 

-Ed
From: geoff@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Geoffrey Coulson)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: What happens if you stop meditating!
Summary: better not to stop!
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:02:37 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In my (limited) experience of stopping, I feel great for a couple of days
but then feel better again when I re-start (so why do I re-start??).

It's commonly theorised that you stop 'unstressing' immediately you
get out of the habit of meditating and this can make you feel good
for a short while - especially if you're in a patch of dullness or
tiredness. Then as you continue to not mediatate, you gradually lose 
the freshness of transcending. This loss of freshness is so subtle 
and gradual and imperceptible that you don't really notice the 
loss until you re-start. Then when you re-start you wish you'd 
never stopped.  Oh well.


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From: WJS112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: veggie and other thoughts of the day
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:03:45 GMT
 <1992Sep11.140122.29704@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
 <1992Sep14.083423.22002@access.digex.com>
Organization: Penn State University

Do most t.m. yoga students follow the idea of no red meat?  T.m. is not really
my true brand of yoga, so i wouldn't know about this sort of thing, although I
do know about har krisna (well, maybe not about the spelling but...)

     Does anyone also notice the various board on the net ex, dreams, paranorma
l, oobe, etc. I think certain forms of yoga do bring you closer to scanning (or
 what they call an oobe).  Although I am curious to as how they can achieve
 such things without training or some backround.  I'm sure some individuals are
 very balanced whom are not in yoga...but still...makes you wonder.

                                           later gersha

                                                   "Smitty.
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: jlundon@xstacy.enet.dec.com (James A. Lundon)
Subject: What happens if you stop meditating!
Reply-To: jlundon@xstacy.enet.dec.com (James A. Lundon)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:15:53 GMT


TMers,

I was thinking recently that If you felt OK while you meditated, what would
happen if you stopped for a prolonged period of time? Would you regress into
your old bad habits or go back into a harmful/bad mindset again?

                               James.

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Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mikenews@access.digex.com (Mike Doughney)
Subject: Re: free vegetarian meal in Palo Alto near Mountain View
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:34:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.140122.29704@m.cs.uiuc.edu> mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>|> free promotional vegetarian meal 
>TAASTAAFPL?
   
"The first taste is free."  Really, the free vegetarian meal is a page
out of the Hare Krishna's recruiting manual; a little surprising to
see it used by a TM group, but then, very little about the TM movement
surprises me lately.

Mike
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Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: vogelv@spot.Colorado.EDU (VOGEL VINCENT PHILIP)
Subject: Techniques...questions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:25:12 GMT

I am glad to see a newsgroup on TM.  My father got me started in TM when
I was about 12 years old.  I really haven't been very dedicated to it, but
I have recently started once again.  I am wondering what Kundalini type
mediations are?  Also I would be interested to hear of other techniques and
variations of the 20 minute twice a day plan.  What works for you? 

			Vincent

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: gpivar@maestro.mitre.org (Greg Pivarnik)
Subject: Re: What happens if you stop meditating!
Reply-To: gpivar@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:01:02 GMT

My experience is limited but after a prolonged abscence of
meditation I find that my life is not in sync (as when I'm meditating).
I tend to get very stressed out and I become your basic ass. And I
do tend to miss the physical sensation which is accompanied by a 
good meditation. (I guess I need a fix). When I am in a period of 
active meditation I find I am more productive at work I am an 
easier person to get along with and I am nicer to my wife and 
children. In short everything is in harmony. Without meditation
I achieve only dischord.
-- 
Greg 

--  Be still, be silent...the rest is easy.  --
From: mvdl@et.tudelft.nl
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Falcon
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:46:32 +0200
Organization: TU-Delft, dpt of Electrical Engineering


Where is the 'falcon' BBS program for anonymous FTP ?

Michel.
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Fidonet sux
Keywords: Fidonet
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 08:27:23 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) writes:

> Exactly.  But, more to the point is when I'd offer to take the NC's job for
> him!  Oh, NO; you can't do THAT, Murph!  See what I mean?  Why not?  Shoot,
> what's the big deal; the guy's complaining about the increased traffic and I'
> the one generating it and am willing to handle my traffic AND that of my
> network at the same time as solving the NC's problem of the increased traffic

Yeah, that's ridiculous.  It's called politics.

> > > Ahhh, the good ol'days.  Hey, Ed, I understand you're the moderator of
> > > alt.ketchup.  How long do you think that group will last?  :-)
> >
> > hehehehehe...no I only mentioned alt.ketchup to twist Larry's tail a bit af
> > he mentioned the 2500 newsgroups.
>
> I know.  :-)  I just brought it up to bring back the good ol'days of the
> debate on V-Net echos coming and going with the breeze.  'Member that?
>

Don't I!  But, I was and still am a big fan of anarchy.  It all sorts itself
out in the end...



>Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us<
>Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087<
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: BBS software for Coherent
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:51:44 GMT

harrisjw@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:

>database program.  I am considering this option though.  However, this is a
>hobby project and I don't want to spend big bucks.  Another solution I've come

well forget TBBS unless you have big bucks to spend

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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Sad to say...
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:49:32 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) writes:

>davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>> Do you have any information on the volume in k-bytes for Fido?

>Echomail is 7-9MB/day after compression. 

So about 3.5-4.5 MB/day of network traffic. Not so much but then
again not so little either. I sure wouldn't want to be paying international
telco for even 3.5 MB/day.

However from what I've read here about Fidonet and how there are
links and there are link, who does this apply to? I'm going to guess
not all nodes....

>> JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)

>This was a bit surprising and frustrating.  I normally don't read .sigs, and
>boing!  Care to explain why?

Sorry for the disappointment but email and USENET don't necessarily
run over the same links: in the case of Japan they are totally
separate. Thus USENET has one routing, mail within Japan another
routing, mail for BITNET yet another routing and what is commonly
called '[Ii]nternet' mail (meaning to addresses on various networks)
by still another.

The [Ii]nternet is *not* open to just anybody, just the large
corporations and national education ministry-supported systems thus
mail from Aegis to any address outside of Japan has to go via
KDDlabs Inet Club (a commercial service which charges 30 yen/K) or
via a direct link to specific to each site. Aegis has it's own
twice-a-day poll to the U.S. and has fees of 20 yen/K. 

Thus I don't want to | can't afford to continue things in mail
unless it's of dire neccessity. And don't go looking for the MX
record for Aegis, it's nowhere to be found. We don't advertise our
link at when we did kindly souls would send HUGE files unasked and
we had to pay for them! 

Hope that clears things up,

Dave

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ted Wagner)
Subject: Adult BBS's
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:56:25 GMT



	Does anyone have a list of adult BBS's?

I'd like to get a copy of that list if one exists...or if you 
know a few numbers.

Thanks

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Fidonet sux, fee for access. (was Sad to say...)
Keywords: Fidonet
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:06:49 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>>larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>>IMHO this is kind of really irresponsible remark that lends to the
>>bickering that's been raising the noise to signal ratio around here. 

>that is the type of garbage that randy likes to start

Perhaps, but I think that calling it "g*ge" is what continues it :-)

...

>Fidonet is operated out of garages and basements, while usenet for the most
>part is operated by corporate america and universities.

Again, I think your comment about "garages and basements" tends to
Fan the Flames of the True Believers making hard to distinguish
the content from the style of delivery.

In any case, yes, I'm under the impression that usenet runs on large
machines at companies and universities; it certainly is the case here. 

Fortunately there aren't many garages and fewer basements in Japan
so I don't feel slighted sitting. But I am sitting in a roku-jo room
(maybe 10 X 12 feet) among 2 PC-9801s, Toshiba Dynabook, a 286, a
386, two 486's, laser printer, dot-printer, 6 telephones and, on
rainy days, the washing. It's really quite convenient: I don't
operate computers I live inside them :-)

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: ST21519@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Subject: Re: Shame on Fidonet
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:31:08 CST

>I post these editorials from these luminaries to show that Fidonet does bully
>its participants.  Not all of them, mind you!  If you join Fidonet and are
>content to sit back and be thankful for what you get and never interact with
>other sysops, particularly the administrators, you will get along just fine.
>It is fun and enjoyable as long as you don't have an opinion and never
>complain.
 
Funny how I can converse with my Region Coordinator and solve any problems that
may arise in a civil and satisfactory manner.  What you often see in Fidonews
and in echomail are personal problems that are severely blown out of proportion
 
>The shame for Fidonet today is that even with poor service, you can't get rid
>of an administrator.  They have taken on more importance than was ever
>intended for them.  Individual sysops have no say over who _they_ think can
>serve them better - it is the next level up, in some far distant locality,
>who decides it for them, more based on friendships than competence.
>Low-numbered addresses are handed out as rewards or perks much like vanity
>license plates for cars.  The administrators seem to like the number but not
>the responsibility, cost, and work that goes along with it.  _That_ is the
>shame of Fidonet.
 
Fidonet never was nor was it intended to be a democracy.  The outgoing Zone
Coordinator (for North Amercia) has embraced elections for our Region and
agreed to appoint whomever we elect.  The same goes for our local networks in
our region.....elect a new leader when the old one fails or gives up the ghost
and the RC will support you.   Many networks simply lack someone who can fill
the shoes as is needed to solve problems which may arise.  Too often those who
are involved can point a finger real good, but offer no solutions.
 
Do you have any idea that Fidonet was never envisioned to be anything but a
fraction of the size it is today?  For many years the size kept doubling every
6 months I have been told.  Toes were stepped on in the interest of solving the
problem at hand - it being the lesser of two evils.  Echomail was designed by a
Dallas Sysop for local exchange and was adopted by the entire network - way way
back there.   Heck, the entire network was created so a few friends could send
email to each other and now it is way beyound this and still trying to come to
grips with explosive growth of the 1980s and the fast growth we now are having.
 
 
You have apparently had a bad experience with Fidonet...and what you read by
others who bring out problems of the network may lead both you and others that
there is nothing positive.  16000 nodes worldwide and still growing, no extreme
phone line charges, and supports even old outdated hardware since Fidonet
refuses to make a PC the standard.
 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:16:17 GMT

In <p-ln2b#@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:

>davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>>  If I choose not to carry anything from dixie.com, or just from John
>>(who has never made a useful post I've seen), that's not censorship. 

>Aww Gee Bill.  Looks like losing that Dell debate still pissing ya off?  
>C'mon, guy.  You can get over it if you try hard enough.

>BTW, you must not read much news if you've never seen a useful post from
>me.  Figures.

I've never seen a useful post from you either, John.  I have, on the
other hand, seen quite a number from Bill.  Perhaps we should hold a
vote? 

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 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: dflynn@aludra.usc.edu (Daniel Flynn)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: 16550 uart chips question
Date: 5 Sep 1992 02:14:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Keywords: chip

What about when you have an internal modem? I have a 9600 modem, but according
to a program I ran to see if I had a 16550 Chip, I found nothing... Is there
anything that can be done for an internal???
From: Steven_P._Oliver@bearsden.UUCP (Steven P. Oliver)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Attn PCBoard Sysops
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:06:05 GMT
Organization: The Bear's Den BBS   (715) 839-7997

Great galloping gazoos!!!  It is virtually impossible to find a PC board
that isnt broken into 80 quadzillion pieces!  Is there a "start-up" PC
board available and if so---WHERE?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: rjus@uonline.com (ren_just)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: TBBS/TDBS/UNIX - Price of a BBS
Date: 12 Sep 92 09:13:51 GMT
Organization: Just Computers!

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
: sandy@godzilla.quotron.com (Sanford Zelkovitz) writes:
: 
: >Actually, if I am not mistaken, the $495 price is when you buy it with a 
: >Dell computer! The actual price for Dell Unix is much more. It turns out that
: >Dell costs more than Esix, if you purchase it without a Dell computer.
: 
: But it comes with so much more.  Comparing Dell SVR4 with ESIX SVR4
: is like comparing apples and oranges.   Dell comes with everything
: but the kitchen sink.
: 

Larry, you still haven't given an accurate price comparison.  If you want to
include it with a Dell, give us the price of the computer purchased from
Dell that can handle this along with the price of the OS and a RDMBS.  I am
still waiting for a definitive answer.  So far you have not told me what we
can accurately expect to pay for the system on the streets.  While Dell
computers are very good computers, not everybody needs to buy a new computer
and not everyone is going to pay the price for a Dell.  They charge at 
least a $1000 premium for a machine.

If you want to compare Apples with Apples, please do so and don't list prices
for something that is included as part of another deal.  From your post I 
get the impression that I could buy their unlimited user version of UNIX,
complete with the development system for $ 495.  But, no wait...  my 
original post called for a 16 user version and then you tell us the $ 495
is for 2 users and that I need to spend another $ 220.  Does that come
with documentation, or is that an extra charge as well?  Can I call Dell
and order it at the price you listed? 

You made reference to some public domain databases on your system.  Could
you please tell us the name of some of those?  What is the learning curve
on those?  Can I call someone up and get support?  Would my clients be
happy with their system? 

And I am still trying to figure out what Dell SYSV, 4.0 includes that
ESIX doesn't.  I didn't go through each line item of the features, but
from what I saw, ESIX had each of those items.  Seriously, you must be
getting a kickback from Dell.  That is the only way I can figure it.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Sad to say...
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:31:22 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

mimir@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Billings) writes:

>In article <2620@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>>
>>How about some details on what you mean by 'fidonet networking': 
>>
>>Do you mean you are part gated to and/or a part of Fidonet? 

> They are not normally gated and are NOT part of Fidonet.

OK. I got it! And just in time to understand an article about Pactok:

  Pactok - Asia Pacific Community Computer Network Project
  ...
  This has been achieved by implementing a private Fido Technology
  Network (FTN) as an adjunct to the Pegasus node. The term FTN is
  preferred so as make clear the important distinction between this
  private network and the public FidoNet.

  Pactok FTN users employ a program called a mailer to dial other
  computers and transfer information. FTN mailers, however, will
  only work with other FTN systems and many systems, including
  Pegasus, are not compatible with Fido Technology. An intermediate
  step is required; a gateway by which messages on the APC computer
  can pass to another system running FTN compatible software.

  The FTN Gateway is a private Fido node, connected to the APC node,
  and running a piece of software to translate messages from APC
  format to Fido format and back again.

  Pactok FTN users communicate with this Gateway and the Gateway
  takes care of communications with the wider world.

  PO Box 49, Annandale NSW 2038 Australia. Phone: +61-2-692-0231
  Fax: +61-2-660-1404
  APC Email:  peg:pactok Internet:     pactok@peg.apc.org

>>Do you mean you use the Fidonet network transport protocol? 
>
> Yes, we use that. 

What PacTok calls FTN.

>>Do you mean you use the Fidonet administrative policy document (no
>>idea.)
>
> No, we have our own policies and charters.

Sounds like a good way to go: use the FidoNet technology without
having to necessrily enter into the FidoNet administrative situation.

Thanks for your help, it really cleared things up.

Dave

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JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087