Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Tseng, VESA, and small disaster......:-(
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:02:37 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <85031@ut-emx.uucp> jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar) writes:
> 
> Don't do this with a new board.  You need to run Selective Install.  It
> will recognize that you have an SVGA adapter.  That's OK.  Go ahead and
> tell it to proceed with the selective install.  It will then load the
> proper fonts and finally prompt you for the SVGA driver disks.  After this
> you should be able to reboot and come up at the resolution you've selected
> during the install.

I have tried this and it only offers me IBM VGA 256. If I move the cursor
down and select Tseng SVGA, it then loses sync and tells me that if I
continue, my system will be unbootable.....which I proved (twice) is exactly
what happens.

>  
> >One thing no one had mentioned: When i typed in SVGA ON in my (non-synced but
> >still half-assed legible) full screen DOS session, it told me that SVGA
> >requires a VESA compliant BIOS! Apparentl, I don't have one in my card. 
> 
> What the hell?  I've neve heard of this.

Some Tsng clones are VESA compliant.....some aren't Mine comes in a purple box
with a greeny pastel cover with a dash of orange. 

> >I do have a TLIVESA tsr that provides this support. I know that running it
> >does something because when i put it in the autoexec.bat and opened a full
> >screen DOS window, IT DIDN'T LOSE SYNC!
> 
> That's because the TLIVESA.COM extension resyncs the monitor when it
> determines which modes your hardware supports.

But there is no equivalent for OS/2....so I appear to be stuck. My Trident
works fine, though, but I would like th speed of the Tseng card.

> 
> >Now.....I went ahead and installed the "tseng SVGA" support - that the system
> >told me not too.....
> 
> How?  If you're running the VESA extension, SVGA.EXE should NOT recognize
> your board as a Tseng ET4000!

As I said above, I manually selected it.

> 
> >I haven't a clue where I went wrong. But this is pretty frustrating - let me
> >tell ya! I have attempted 3 or 4 times now to get this card to do something
> >other than yer basic 640x480....but i have just about lost all patience.
> 
> I think part of your problem is that you reinstalled without reformatting.
> Don't the Trident drivers have specialized OS2LDR.MSG files or such?
> Reinstalling should overwrite these, but I can't help to think that if
> you're going to do a re-install after using the Trident drivers, you should
> do so with a clean slate.

I alway re-format when I re-install.....but it was a good guess! BTW...di you
notice that ever ysecond time you re-format, your install fails and you have
to start over and reformat again? It wil always work this time.

> >Can anyone share my pain/tell me how to set this damn card up? 
> 
> 1) Back up your hard disk.
> 2) Re-install the GA and allow it to format for FAT or HPFS (you can have
> reformat for either file system, I think).
> 3) Fool around with the GA for a while and make sure it is solid.
> 4) Once you feel safe with the GA and VGA, install the CSD.
> 5) Fool around with the CSD at VGA resolution.
> 6) Finally, run the Selective Install and allow it to recognize your SVGA
> adapter and install the appropriate fonts.  It will allow you to select a
> WPS resolution toward the end of the update process.
> 
> This should be all you have to do and is probably necessary after your
> Trident/TLIVESA/SVGA fiasco.

TSENG...actually....:-)

The trident works great!
 
Thanks for the help.  
 
I went back to the shop I got the card from and the guy said: "Oh yeah, we had
both VESA Tseng cards and non-VESA Tseng cards.....I guess you got
the..." etc.
 
Next time he gets some in, he will call me.....
 
Steve
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