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From: jpw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason P. Wright)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: College Papers
Date: 22 Nov 1992 07:04:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jpw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason P. Wright)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I was wondering if there would be any interest in forming an informal
group of college newspapers where we can exchange papers and freely
exchange ideas.  CWRU puts out a weekly 12-24 page tabloid without the
support of University monies.

Anyone else have a similar situation?

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:37:25 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov18.150031.21368@rtsg.mot.com> gatchall@rtsg.mot.com (Scott W. Gatchall) writes:
[Ted says:  "Frats are evil!" :)]

>Damn .. sounds like the government too.  Haven't heard you bitch once
>about that.  Maybe this could be a new thread, eh?

Oh, don't *even* get me started.  And this is neither the time nor
the place.

>>And the
>>bad they do can be easily alleviated by going co-ed and eliminating the
>>pledging process without at all interfering with the good that fraternities
>>do.
>
>
>If you have been paying attention, you'd have heard that a number of
>fraternities are co-ed and a number of fraternities have abolished
>pledging ... but I'm sure that once this is fully implemented by all
>that you'll find another of your 'flaws'.

Um, read for comprehension.  These are the very suggestions Ted has
made, with the implication that Greek society might be cleaned up
if these were implemented.  They haven't been implemented on a wide
scale, and many places are reluctant to do so.  And some of us will
not be happy until they are.  And then we will be happy.  
 
You win a ticket for a one-way trip on the clue bus.

>Bottom line:  You weren't (probably) invited into a fraternity or 
>(probably) booted from one and carry a grudge.  It's written on the wall.
>I feel sorry for your inability to live and let live.

As for Ted, he went to a school that doesn't have Greek letter organizations,
so your assumption is false.  As for me, I discovered early what Greek
life was like and decided not to play the game.  I think you're
off base.  Tag!  You're out!

>ACtually, if I remember right .... you started one of these debates
>a year or two ago about some bad experience with someone in your family
>and a fraternity (might have been mine).  So ... I guess you're gonna
>just keep dragging this outta the closet until you go to your grave.
>Get on with your life, man.

This has got to be the dumbest thing I ever heard.  Tag again!
Two outs!

One more out and you'll have to change sides.  ;)

cpk
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: rbelange@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Rachel Belanger)
Subject: Looking for folks at KSU
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:40:31 GMT

Does anyone out there go to Kansas State? I am from Kansas and I am trying
to contact a friend who goes to your school. If so, please write back.
From: johnwu@netcom.com (John Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Need info on Texas Tech
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:35:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov16.223534.10234
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I have a friend who is interested in studying mechanical engineering 
(undergrad) and would like to forward any information you may have about
Texas Tech to him.  Some of the things he wants to know:

1) How good is the mech. engineering dept. there?
2) How competitive is it to enter as a transfer student?
3) What is the  campus like?
4) What is the area outside of the campus like?  What's there to do when
you have free time?
5)  Is it worth it for an out-of-stater.  He is from California.  The fees
at the University of California is about to break the $3000/yr barrier.  He
will want a semi-generous financial aid package.
6)  Anything else... (other schools he may want to transfer into?  his
GPA is around the 2.9-3.0  mark)

All responses will be greatly appreciated and be forwarded to my friend.

-- 
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- johnwu@netcom.com              something dropped into my eye           -
- jmw@ocf.berkeley.edu           I'm a big boy so I won't cry            -
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Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.net-people,news.answers
From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: stop the frat discussion!
Originator: jagreath@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:05:23 GMT


In article <1992Nov14.163235.2305@gacvx2.gac.edu>, censtad@dumaine.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.161150.8720@iscsvax.uni.edu>  writes:
>>         HEY!  SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN FRATS!
>> 
>>         1) Nobody cares
>> 
>>         2) Get a clue!  and get a life.
>> 
>>         3) start your own damn newsgroup if you just want to 
>>            talk about frats.  Sheez!
>> 
>>  _expecting mass flame but it had to be said!

>Here's part of the flame:

>1. Frats are a college issue
>2. People ARE discussing it so please butt out if you have nothing of  
>interest to say

Here's more.  Use a kill file.  This is soc.college, and Fraternities are a
part of collegiate society, like it or not.  If you don't want to read about
it, please don't.

-- 
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*  Joseph A. Greathouse     jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu                            *
*  North Carolina State University CSC Department Operator                   *
*  The opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily represent those of *
*  the CSC department, NCSU, or Engineering Computing Operations.            *
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: newhaven@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Sword)
Subject: Any one out there from Boston College?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:40:47 GMT

I'm interested in seeinif an old friend of mine who I haven't seen in two
and a half years is still there.  Any suggestions on who to contact/how to
contact?

adTHANKSvance
-- 
"In the grey dawn an owl woke and sang a riddle."
		-Patricia A. McKillip.  Harpist in the Wind.
From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Tipper
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:30:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.BxtHv2.Cw7
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <1992Nov13.040549.13323@cc.umontreal.ca> cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:
>How about....
>
>Tip-o-rama!
>Tip-meister!
>Tip-dudette
>The Tip-ster!

No, that would be "The Tip-stress".  Does Richy have net.access?

	Darrin
-- 

mdchaney@iubacs mdchaney@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu mdchaney@rose.ucs.indiana.edu

"I want- I need- to live, to see it all..."
From: hulscher4906@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: stop the frat discussion!
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:34:28 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov14.004729.27564@cc.umontreal.ca>, cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.161150.8720@iscsvax.uni.edu> biesanz2024@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>        HEY!  SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN FRATS!
>>
>>        1) Nobody cares
>             Obviously somebdy cares! If nobody cared there would be no posts!
>               Okay, very few people care.
>>        2) Get a clue!  and get a life.
>             Most of us have clues!  We know what fraternities are about.
>             No thanks,  I like the life I already have!  :-)
>>
>>        3) start your own damn newsgroup if you just want to 
>>           talk about frats.  Sheez!
>             That would be a great idea,  I would love it!
>               Then please do.  I really don't need to scroll through all the
                 frat shit to get to what I want to see.  After all it is
                 called soc.college, not soc.frat.
> Michael Bertrand,
>  __________    _      _   ________         _      _    _      _
> |             |     /    |                |     /      \     /  
>     |         |    /     |   _____        |    /        \   /   
>     |         |          |                |              >      
> 
>     |         |    \     |   _____        |    \        /   \   
>     |         |     \    |                |     \      /     \ _ 
>   
> cholette@jsp.umontreal.ca
>  
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: theodore@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (Theodore Jonathan Casser)
Subject: E-mail address at Johns Hopkins?
Reply-To: theodore@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:03:33 GMT

Does anyone know Paul Fisher's e-mail address at Johns Hopkins University?
I have been trying to get in contact with him.  Please e-mail it to me at  
the address below...     Thank you in advance...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
T.J. Casser  <theodore@wam.umd.edu>
"It's not what you know, it's who you know..."
Let's go Terps!
(301)314-8554   7114 Elkton Hall, College Park, Md 20742
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: chosen@wam.umd.edu (Greg Cohen)
Subject: Need help from CU (Colorado) student
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:07:27 GMT

Hi!  I have a friend that goes to school at the University of Colorado
in Boulder.  She would like to know how to get a computer account?  Can
anyone out there tell me the process of getting an account there so I 
can relay the message to her?  Thanks in advance..

Greg

Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.net-people
From: Helmut.Lorek@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Helmut Lorek)
Subject: Email of San Diego State University
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:52:27 GMT
Summary: need email and contact to someone from San Diego Uni
Keywords: email, San Diego


A friend of mine (who hasn't got access to the news-system, but soon will)
wants to spent a year studuying at San Diego State University. He's a bit
in deadlock. Good old german administration wants him to provide information
about possible fields of studies and other things before they accept him for
the local grant. To speed up the whole process I told him to get in contact
with people from San Diego University via email. By the way he wants to study 
psychology as an undergraduate. 

Can anybody give me the email addresses from persons he could contact, for
example the director of studies for undergraduates in psychology or some-
one from the registration office.

Many thanks in advance for any extra help you can offer. Thanks a lot

Helmut (Lorek)
From: djr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID JASON REUTER)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: E-mail for Lehigh and IIT
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:10:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov21.190546.17026@pellns.alleg.edu>, lohsej@pell2l8.alleg.edu (
James Lohse) writes:
>Does someone know how to get e-mail addresses for those at Lehigh Univ. or
>for Illinois Institute of Technology?
>It's urgent !  The names of the students are Dave Olverson at IIT and
>Ronald P. Swanson at Lehigh
>
The User ID for Swanson is

    rps0@Lehigh.EDU (RONALD PHILLIP SWANSON)

    enjoy,
        Dave
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: busc@ellis.uchicago.edu (john richard buscher)
Subject: UNCA-Asheville- need help
Reply-To: busc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:48:52 GMT

my girlfriend is about to transfer to UNCA. however she would prefer to live off campus. if anyone in the area could e-mail info on any available apartments, we would both be very greatful...

J
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: College e-mail addresses :Illinois Institute of Tech and Lehigh  Univ
From: censtad@dion.gac.edu (Topher the Gustie)
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:54:44 -0600
Reply-To: censtad@nic.gac.edu   enstad@gacvx1.gac.edu    

In article <1992Nov21.185917.16757@pellns.alleg.edu>  writes:
> This is very important.  I need to find the e-mail addresse of two  
people.   
> One goes to the Illinois Institute of Technology his name is Dave  
> Olverson.  He tells me that the address should be something like  
> olvedav@iitvax.iit.edu and whenever I finger that address to get info  
the  
> Karl system tells me that the "argument list is not permitted."  can  
> someone help me?
> 	The second person attends Lehigh University and his name is Ronald  
> P. Swanson.   I got hold of someone at Lehigh however , I was told that  
I  
> needed his permission to have the address.
> 
> I need help!


I'm so sorry, those addresses are private and if we gave them to you over  
the net it would be infringing on their privacy.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Noah Smith)
Subject: MAKING COLLEGE A BETTER PLACE
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:31:21 GMT

Hello!  My name is Noah Smith, and I'm a student government senator at
Northwestern U. near Chicago.  My mission in life is to find out how other
colleges around the world do things, and to see if we can use your ideas. 
I'll take any SERIOUS ideas (no flaming, please) about colleges, but I'm
especially interested in the areas of race relations and campus safety, as
well as news about any upcoming student leadership conferences.  I already
posted a letter like this on bit.listserv.sganet (No replies, as of yet),
but I don't expect any duplicates.  After a few replies, I'll write about
how we do things here at Northwestern.   Send all replies to
ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu   Thanks a lot!
  
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang)
Subject: Volunteers Needed for an Experiment in Cognitive Psychology
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:16:16 GMT




We are currently conducting an experiment to study how people solve
very simple problems.  We ask for volunteers to participate in this
experiment.  It only takes about 2 to 3 minutes.  Plus, it is fun and
enjoyable. 

To do the task, simply type:

telnet canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu (or 128.146.112.91)
Login: psyexp
(No password is needed.)

Then enter your terminal type, such as vt100, sun, xterm, and so on.

Everything is fully automatic and self-explained.

If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or send me
an email.

Thank you for your help.

-----
Jiajie Zhang, 			(614)-292-8667 (office)
Assistant Professor		(614)-885-7995 (home)
Department of Psychology	jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Ohio State University	 	zhang@canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: hazing
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:37:38 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <1992Nov17.214814.28007@ncsu.edu> jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov17.083356.13766@umr.edu>, ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov16.150858.1@dhvx20.csudh.edu> chris@dhvx20.csudh.edu writes:
>>>A real fraternity does not humiliate their potential members and make them
>>>haze. What I mean by a real fraternity is one that stands for leadership, 
>>>friendship, a sense of belonging and worthwhile human experiences, including
>>>service to others. 
>
>>Oh, you mean like making your pledges stand on the corner of 14th and
>>Bishop wearing huge placards and chanting "Kappa Alpha Does Not Haze
>>Its Pledges?"
>
>>cpk
>>No, really, they did.  Honest.
>
>What did you do about this? did you file a complaint with the university or
>Kappa Alpha's National Headquarters?  Or did you simply walk on by and ignore
>the incident, chalking up for another stereotypical behaviour?

The latter.

Those who are not righteous shall perish in their own iniquities.
I don't need to preach the evils of Greek society at my own campus;
it does a fairly good job of doing that all by itself.  They cleaned
up their act considerably when our previous chancellor played hardball
with them.  But the crap continues. . . .

If it means so much to you to be Greek that you will tolerate
that sort of crap, I say go right ahead.

KA almost lost its charter here.  I think it was KA that almost
lost their charter.  But I'm quite sure it is KA that was standing
on the corner of 14th and Bishop. 

cpk
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
From: censtad@dion.gac.edu (Topher the Gustie)
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:27:38 -0600
Reply-To: censtad@nic.gac.edu   enstad@gacvx1.gac.edu    

In article <1992Nov23.162755.4299@midway.uchicago.edu>  writes:
> No need to imagine!  Look it up yourself!
> 
> 10 ALR3d 389 (listing such cases in private and public schools)
> Phelps v Colby College, 595 A2d 403 (upholding suspension at private  
school)
> Sigma Chi v University of Colorado, 258 F Supp 515 (upholding  
university's
> 	punishment of fraternity that discriminated against blacks)
> -- 
> ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
> standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
> the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637


Oooh an actual response with actual cases to look up, much more than you  
did to substantiate your views on whether or not e-mail is public.

Didn't I ask you for something like that in one of those "harassing"  
letters I supposedly sent you?
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: well..
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:55:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.032055.2889@Princeton.EDU> rnoguchi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ryan Alexander Noguchi) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.140136.2441@gacvx2.gac.edu> 
>censtad@perdita.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad) writes:
>[...]
>>I'd like to see the law you quote so much which one is it that makes it  
>>illegal to copy and reprint public statements with the name of the person  
>			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>who made the comments included?  Is it the same one that keeps the  
>>newspapers from reprinting Presidential speeches?  Oh, I forgot, there  
>>isn't one.
>
>I too am interested in seeing the law regarding implicit copyright of
>private mail, but to be fair, the law he cites concerns *private*
>email, not *public* statements.  Let's not be too eager to post a
>"clever" flame that isn't relevant to the situation.

Check out the news.announce.newusers FAQ.  Which, hypothetically,
everyone is supposed to have read before posting to the net.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.gradinfo
From: yzhang@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Yang)
Subject: Books on Admission Essays
Keywords: Admission Essay
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:30:58 GMT

I am preparing for my statement of purpose for graduate school admission. 
I have a couple of books on hand, but neither of them seem to be of great help.
Could anybody out there give me any suggestions which books are good?
Thanks in advance.


Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mikeb@amc.com (Mike Buckmaster)
Subject: E-mail at Iowa Western CC or Univ NE at Omaha
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:59:12 GMT

I'm looking to get someone attached to Internet in the
Omaha, NE Metro area.  So if you have any information on
servers in the area, please let me know.

thanks,
mikeb@amc.com

Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.peeves
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Nominations are now open
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:42:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.133258.9078@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Nov21.090104.5836@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>> I fail to see what relevance any of this has to anything. 
>
>Ah Ted, perhaps this is your problem. You see, I believe that your flames
>reveal more about you than all your lovely arguments and your name dropping
>which means nothing to me, Canadian that I am. You see Ted, you are one whole
>person, not eight or nine different ones. I believe the people here (especially
>the Greeks) deserve to know what you REALLY think of the Greek system

All it reveals is what I think about *you*.  I doubt that even you are so
arrogant as to believe that you personify the fraternity system.  And even if
you do think that, I don't, so any flames I posted about you to a flame-war of
a thread in an alt.* group is hardly of relevance to what I think about the
fraternity system. 
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: so sue me (Let's stop paying Mr. Frank so much attention)
From: censtad@perdita.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:05:39 -0600

In article <1efhr6INNffd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>  writes:
> 
> Lets tread on some new judicial ground.
> 
> Ted Frank has misrepresented me at least twice.
> 
> (i) I did not send him 25 messages after he told me to stop.  
>     I forwarded him 4 messages before I had read his request to
>     desist mailing.
> (ii)I did not harass him in any way.  He never told me he wasn't
>     christian, in fact, he told me to read the Bible.
> 
> So I will send *every* *unedited* personal response between me and Mr.
> Frank to show his mirepresentations of myself without malicious intent
> or attempting to misrepresent Mr. Frank's opinions in any way.  And Mr.
> Frank can come and file suit against me to his heart's content.
> 
> jp
> 
> on a personal note..Ted, if you are as incompetent in real life as you
> appear to be in netland, I hardly think you could prosecute the devil
> himself.  I have done nothing wrong.


If I have to kill every single one of those messages you threaten to send  
then I will be a very unhappy news reader.  Save us all a headache please.   
And let's stop paying Mr. Frank so much attention.  He seems to love it to  
much and all we do is feed his ego.  

That's all folx.

Chris
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Football Rivalry
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:21:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Lehigh isn't the only school trying to break tradition -- Dartmouth's
administration is, too.  Just one of the reasons so many students hate
president Freedman.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."