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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:56:32 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Urgent Appeal-Jerusalem Rabbi Mistakenly Arrested!

In article <34448@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU>, dmoore@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Daniel B Moore)
says:
>
>A well respected Rabbi from Jerusalem has
>been arrested along with his brother recently
>in California. Because the charges are
>ridiculous, many important figures are helping
>to gain their release, such as Senator Arlen
>Specter of Pennsylvania, the Simon Wiesenthal
>Center, Alan Dershowitz, Lincoln Square
>Synagogue, the Lubavicher Rebbe and Rabbi
>Shlomo Riskin. Due to a series of mistakes,
>such as the Israeli Consulate writing that the
>Rabbi's brother has a criminal record, their bail
>has been set at an unattainable $750,000 each.
>As a result they have been in jail for the past
>two weeks. At this point their hope is through
>legal means. Each needs $60,000 in lawyer's
>fees by this Monday (December 21). Although
>this Rabbi has five children and not much money,
>an urgent appeal has gone out by people who
>know him, such as myself, and has so far raised
>$80-90,000. If you have the ability to contribute
>to this Rabbi who has dedicated his life to the
>mitzva of helping Jews in need, call me for more
>information-(212) 260-3978. The money that
>you pledge will be layed out in advance of its
>receipt because it needs to be wired this Monday.
>Tizku l'mitzvot!
>
>--Douglas B. Moore
>New York, New York

1) What is he accused of?
2) What does he say happen?

>
>
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From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Subject: Now repeat after me...
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<1992Dec14.194805.25403@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>
	<1992Dec14.195018.24560@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:46:07 GMT


On 14 Dec 92 19:49:20 GMT, ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar) said:
 > Also there are a lot of hidden references to Jesus

	There's a good reason they're hidden: some of the references are
uncomplimentary (such as calling the Nazarene's mother an adultress),
and Christians shouldn't be given extra reasons to kill Jews (not that
they ever needed reasons).

 > Question for the idiot Orthodox:

	My my my.  Couple this with the following:

On 14 Dec 92 19:48:05 GMT, ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar) said:

 > I am curious to see what EXCUSES you crazy Orthodox come up with now.

	Such a shining example of Christian love and kindness, I must
say.  Nice to know you love your enemies, Vijay.

On 14 Dec 92 19:50:18 GMT, ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar) said:

 > The reference is Isaiah 53 - it is called the FORBIDDEN CHAPTER
 > since it is never read in a synagogue.  Modern copies of the Tenach 
 > actually delete verses 53:4 onwards.

	As others have commented, you obviously are parroting something
someone *told* you, because my copy of the Tanakh (published a few years
ago; I'd call that "modern") has all of Isaiah.

	BTW-- *Most* of Nevi'im and Kethuvim are not read in shul.

 > Incidentally for those of you who believe in killing animals
 > for atonement I say why not kill a man for atonement?

	Because it'd be murder.

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"...I will not post missionary garbage to s.c.j; I will not post
 missionary garbage to s.c.j...; ..."
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From: wc4209@writer.yorku.ca (Irene Berkovich)
Subject: Re: Messiah Jesus: Miracles in the Talmud
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:27:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.134605.5678@umbc3.umbc.edu> shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff) writes:
>Okay, putz, I'll play.  Just for the fun
>AHA!  You quote Talmud.  It is pretty clear from your quotations
>that you understand absolutely nothing about rabbinic aggada.  I
>assume your references were from Herford's _Christianity in Talmud
>and Midrash_.
>
>But, since you are willing to accept the Talmud as authoritative,
>you will also accept that talmudic description of him as "min
>ha-shotim" (b. Shabb. 104b) and a "mamzer" etc.  So, by your
>standards, you pray to a MAMZER SHOTEH?  (Again, this is true
>only if one accepts aggada literally, as you seem to.)
>
>>A
>
>>Sha
>All I can say is that if you accept Talmudic aggadta as authoritative,
>you pray to a shoteh mamzer.
>
>
>Bye Bye Vijay.  Go back to worshipping your shoteh mamzer by yourself;
>we're not interested.  Incidentally, most informed Christians -- 
>Herford included -- understood aggada and Talmud.  No one ever accused
>_them_ of worshipping a shoteh mamzer.
>
>
>-- 
>Eliot Shimoff          

Just to help you out Vijay because you obviously don't know any
Hebrew:

Shoteh: = fool, imbecile
Mamzer: = bastard
Putz: = (lit. penis), schmuck

Your Welcome.
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Subject: Re: Chinese Food
From: eburk@bugs.sfsu.edu (Eli Burk)
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:42:34 PST
Reply-To: eburk@bugs.sfsu.edu (Eli Burk)

In article <9212141653.AA11054@cyclone.sbi.com>  writes:
> jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein) writes:
>  
> > Over the course of most of my life, I've head a number of my fellow  
Jews
> > make jokes about our people's fondness for Chinese food. I never
> > believed it until I got to college, and discovered that most people  
just
> > don't eat Chinese as often as I and my other Jewish friends do. 
> > 

Here in San Francisco I know of literally dozens (I bet there are
hundreds) of Chinese restaurants were I can get a complete lunch 
for less than $5.00. I don't keep kosher so I'm not so picky.

My grandfather's favorite restaurant in Toronto (Canada) is an
all-you-can-eat seafood Chinese restaurant. Of course he only goes
there when *not* keeping kosher.

eli
btw - I myself avoid all all-you-can-eat establishments




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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Subject: Re: To all Jews: STOP the negative Jewish stereotypes
Organization: Jews for Melkor
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:54:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.024433.4412@netcom.com> madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
>
>Hmmm; back to Jewish jokes.  The usual metatopics are:
>   Jews are practical (thrift/cheap) (can use Scotsman jokes here)
>   Jews are good at business (money-lovers)
>   Jews are intelligent (moreso than Gentiles)
>   Jews like to argue
>   Cultural disparities (e.g. kosher laws, rabbi/priest jokes, etc)
>   Historical situations (yes, that includes Holocaust jokes)
>   Jewish mothers are controlling
>   Jewish fathers/boys are not athletic
>   Jewish daughters are over-pampered (lazy, spoiled)

Don't forget "Jewish women are frigid" and the parallel "Jewish
men are sexually naive/incompetent". The first of these is a
favorite of Woody Allen, and also allows the (extremely
offensive) punchline,

"Dead? My God! I thought she was Jewish!"

The construction of the joke to fit the punchline is left as an
exercise to the reader.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"SILENCE = QUIET"
                --Girljock Magazine
From: siegfried_r@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Looking for a place to spend the Sabbath near Chicago
Date: 11 Dec 92 05:31:54 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US


	I am an Assistant Professor of Computer Science here at Saint Peter's 
College and am Shomer Shabbat.  I will be attending a workshop at Argonne 
National Lab in Argonne, Illinois (near Chicago).  I will have to leave too 
late to make it back to New York in time for the Sabbath.

	Does anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

					Robert Siegfried
					Computer Science Dept.
					Saint Peter's College
					Jersey City, NJ  07306
					siegfried_r@spcvxa.spc.edu
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From: CPLS13@email.mot.com (Steven_Cohn)
Subject: Re: Haftorah Reading May 21, 1994
Organization: Motorola_CoveragePLUS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:53:54 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish

Don't know the Haftorah off hand, but according to Hebcal, the parsha is
Nasso.


In article <1992Dec14.235541.12738@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>,
stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) wrote:
> 
> Our synagogue has set the date of the next adult Bat Mitzvahs
> on May 21, 1994.  Does anyone know what the haftorah reading will
> be that day?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Stan Krieger                 All opinions, advice, or suggestions, even
> UNIX System Laboratories     if related to my employment, are my own.
> Summit, NJ
> smk@usl.com

Steven Cohn
Motorola CoveragePLUS Engineering
CPLS13@EMAIL.MOT.COM
From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Joke of the Day
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:31:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <9212161538.AA25810@host0.COLBY.EDU>, jjsulliv@COLBY.EDU (Nice Young Lady(tm)) writes:
> agw@dsm.fordham.edu (Art Werschulz) writes:
>
> (skips body of joke)
>
> Santa bent his head down to the lad, and whispered quietly, "A gezunte
> on deiner kopf, yingele."
>
> 	For the non-Yiddish speaking population, what does this mean?
>
> 	JJ


A literal translation would be:

"Health on your head, little boy".

As the Jewish Santa *really* said: And an OY OY OY to you

Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL







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From: ut-emx!blais@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Donald Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic,soc.religion.islam
Subject: Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque
Keywords: religious tolerance, respect, common decency
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:37:23 GMT
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Originator: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan -Moderator)
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1gl3e5INNcha@mizar.usc.edu> srose@mizar.usc.edu (Steve Rose) writes:
>
>I have recently come upon a letter on the Internet which supports dismantling
>the dome-of-the-rock.  To my mind, the specifics of the letter are less
>important than the fact that there are some Israelis and other Jews who
>would support such an action.
>
>I am one Jew who does not.  In fact, I will fight such an action as best I
>can.

It is not commonly recognized among non-Muslims that "al-qubbat
al-Sakhrah" (Dome of the Rock) and the "al-masjid al-aqSa" (al-Aqsa
Mosque) are two separate structures.  The Dome of the Rock was built
between 685 and 691 AD by caliph `Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.  The
al-Aqsa Mosque was begun in 710 AD.  About the Dome of the Rock...
 
Encyclopaedia Britannica, (Macropaedia), 15th edition
Islamic Peoples, Arts of

    [...] the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, is a unique building.
    Completed in 691, this masterwork of Islamic architecture is the
    earliest major Islamic monument.  Its octogonal plan, use of a
    high dome, and building techniques are hardly original, although
    its decoration is unique.  Its purpose, however, is what is most
    remarkable about the building.  Since the middle of the 8th
    century, the Dome of the Rock has become the focal center of the
    most mystical event in the life of the Prophet: his ascension into
    heaven from the rock around which the building was erected.
    According to an inscription preserved since the erection of the
    dome, however, it would seem that the building did not originally
    commemorate the Prophet's ascension but rather the Christology of
    Islam and its relationship to Judaism.  It seems preferable,
    therefore, to interpret the Dome of the Rock as a victory monument
    of the new faith's ideological and religious claim on a holy city
    and on all the religious tradtions attached to it.

In Jewish tradition, the rock is the site at which Abraham prepared to
sacrifice his son Isaac, and the mount is the site of Solomon's Temple.

Is there any reason why this geographic navel of monotheistic belief
should not be a shrine of unity to welcome pilgrims of all faiths?
-- 
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Computation Center          Bitnet:   blais@utxvms
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From: shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff)
Subject: Joke (was Re: Synagogue MUSIC)
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:06:41 GMT

Know when cantorism (hazzanut) as a profession is first mentioned
in the Torah?

Just a few weeks ago, we read of Yaakov's first meeting with Rachel:

Va'yishak Yaakov l'Rachel:  Yaakov kissed Rachel.  It was their 
  first date, and she realized that he must have had serious and
  honorable intentions.  She thus asked the obvious question: What
  do you do for a living?  He answered:

Va'yisa et kolo:  He raised his voice, that is, he began to sing.
  I am a hazzan, he informed her.  Her resonse was so obvious that
  the Torah does not even have to describe it:  "You think I'm gonna
  marry a hazzan, a general pain that the tzibur would like to get
  rid of [hence shliach tzibur]?  Not on your life, buster!  Get an
  honest job and I'll consider your proposal."

Va'yevk:  He cried.  (But straightened himself out, and did not
  in fact enter hazzanut as a career.)



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   shimoff@umbc3.umbc.edu      |   X + Y = Z .  Easy to prove no solutions
Ashamnu, bagadnu, gazalnu ...  |   for n greater than 2.  Darn.  Can't fit
Better luck next year!         |   it into this little .sig file.  Oh well.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Late 4 Dec Mincha
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:02:09 GMT

In article <9212101540.AA25604@cyclone.sbi.com>, gertler@cyclone (Don Gertler) writes:
>If you are already in shul, and the shul itself has already been
>mekabel Shabbat, you may have an even harder time finding a psak to
>still daven mincha.

That's due to a gezerah lest you do it in the back row since all the
other seats are taken, and when everyone (except for one person who
contends that they should be facing a different direction, there's one
in every shul) turns around at the end of L'cha Dodi they'll see you.
-- 
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 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Jews, Cincinatti, and the KKK
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:01:39 GMT

ec = emc@doe.carleton.ca (Eli Chiprout)
mr = merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)

mr: If you're going to allow
mr: religious symbols on public property in the US, the government can't decide
mr: whose religions are legitimate and whose aren't.  They'll have to allow
mr: religious symbols from Satanists, too, if any apply.  Racist speech is
mr: still protected speech; it doesn't matter if it's popular or not.

ec: This migt be legitimate reasoning IF the KKK was a religion.
ec: I suggest you study the recent German government movement on
ec: the neo-nazis.  

Well there are are racist churches, I think they call themselves
"Christian Identity" or something like that, if the KKK couldn't get a
permit to set up their exhibit they could probably set up a branch of
that.
-- 
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 |__/__/_/    
 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
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From: horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923)
Subject: Re: Venison
Organization: NetCom -- OnLine Communication Services
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:48:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.034652.28780@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.032317.9698@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
>>In article <4803@moscom.com> de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:
>>>
>>>Now the question is:  Is there another source for kosher venison? 
>>
>>How about kosher moose?
>>
>>A moose bit mi sister once...
>
>I prefer llamas myself.

I prefer Hamas, myself.

Jonathan B. Horen       | A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes,
SysAdmin/SrTechWriter   | but to get in accord with them; they are 
Tel: (408) 736-3923     | legitimately what directs his conduct in the world.
Email: horen@netcom.com |                     -- Sigmund Freud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Subject: Re: JforJ ad in Newsweek
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:20:01 GMT

In article <102335@netnews.upenn.edu> shawn@up.hep.upenn.edu
(Shawn Ruby) writes:

> Anybody see that Jews for Jesus ad in Newsweek?  They must have
> more money than I thought to pay for a full page spread like that.

According to the Evangelical Council for Financial
Accountability, the 1991 Jews for Jesus budget was $10.1 million.
The '92 figures won't be in until February.        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Other 1991 budgets for organizations which 
work to seduce Jews to Xianity:

  Friends of Israel Gospel Ministries: $5 million

  Chosen People Ministries: $5-7 million
   (formerly 'American Board
    for Missions to the Jews')

  For guidance in dealing with missionaries, I recommend contacting
Jews for Judaism, a counter-missionary organization (1992 budget ~$100
thousand).  The '92 budget was originally 120k, but they had to cut
staff to meet expenses.  They could use your support.  See the file
israel/answers/jews4judaism.txt anonymously ftp-able from
nysernet.org, or contact them at 410-602-0276, or send $$$ to Jews for
Judaism, P.O. Box 15059, Baltimore, MD 21208.

Rob

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Subject: Re: Messiah Jesus: Miracles in the Talmud
Summary: Who saw the miracles?
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.134605.5678@umbc3.umbc.edu> shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff) writes:
>Okay, putz, I'll play.  Just for the fun if it.

>In article <1992Dec14.194920.4495@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar) writes:

>>A number of you asked to see the references to Jesus miracles outside 
>>the New Testament.

>How many of "us" asked?  A great multitude?

>>Josephus: Antiquities 18.3.3

>Now go back and check Josephus.  Did he write that Jesus performed
>miracles, or that some people _said_ Jesus performed miracles.  There's
>a difference, you know.

			....................

>>Question for the idiot Orthodox:

>>Are the following miracles or sorcery?

>Here's one idiot Orthodox answer: they're silly legends!

>>Healing the sick, opening the eyes of the blind, creating food
>>out of thin air, walking on water, raising the dead, getting up 
>>from the grave etc.

I can find nothing better on this than a Hindu proverb:

	Saints fly only in the eyes of their disciples.
-- 
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From: avr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (adam.v.reed)
Subject: Re: Uncircumized jews
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:20:55 GMT
Summary: Older precedent for non-circumcision

In article <92346.1649152893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>  I remember a news story a few years ago about a couple whos son ended
>  up dying because of some circumcision related problem, their rabbi gave them
> permission not to circumcise their next child if a boy.

I know that in Poland, after the Shoah, some fathers
whose previous sons had been murdered because they were
circumcised, were permitted by their Rabbis not to
circumcise their subsequent sons. I understand that the
original precedent for these rulings is even older.
Could a more Halahically informed reader please
comment?
			Adam_V_Reed@ATT.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: boaz@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Boaz Ben-Zvi)
Subject: Re: Jewish Joke of the Day (a true story)
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
	<HEM.92Dec15180256@col400.col400.att.com>
	<92351.082058YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
	<1992Dec16.180713.6449@news.columbia.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:44:11 GMT


In article <92351.082058YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> Yaakov Kayman <YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
 >My mother, may she be well until 120, told me that when I was a very
 >small child (maybe 5 or less), we went to a local department store, and
 >that when the store Santa asked me what I wanted for Christmas I told
 >him  "A Hanukkah present!" :-D :-D

Reminds me of another story told by a Jewish actor (I think his name is
Henry Gould or something, he played many roles on TV; last I saw him
on the Golden Girls):
  When he was young (> 50 years ago), he was also taken once to a store with
a Santa, and that Santa asked him: "Would you like a present for Xmess?" . 
"No!", answered Henry. "What kind of boy does not want a present for Xmess?"
wondered Santa. "I want a present for HANUKA !" answered Henry. "Ah, A 
GEZUNTERE KOP" (healthy head -- in Yidish) replied Santa.

Which somehow reminds me of another joke (not real) told by my late
grandfather: A black man stands at a street corner in NYC holding a Yidish
newspaper under his arm. "DU BIST A ID?" (are you Jewish) wonders a
passer by. "UN A SHVARTZ IS NISHT INVAINICK?" replies the former
(should mean: Don't I have enough (trouble) being black? )

-- Boaz

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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:16:56 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Irreconcialable differences...

Give it up, you're making no headway and impressing nobody.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: <ejd3@po.cwru.edu>
Subject: Re: Messiah Jesus: Daniel 9 follow up
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <<ejd3@po.cwru.edu>>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:43:08 GMT


A Jewish Christian is an oxymoron

espousing the combination makes you a moron

The messiah will come when the Jewish people
observe the laws.  By dissuading this, you
are unwittingly(?) delaying the messiah's
comming.

>From a Jewish Jew (may all Jews stay that way!)

Get off our backs!!  
 
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