HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: In (partial) defense of Rikiya Asano
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:47:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article 21990, rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
writes:

>I think we are seeing here an example of blaming the victim. Yes, it's
>mainly pointless to "bash" Asano, but his absurdity and vulgarity call
>for it sometimes. I further don't see that he is "productive, even
>contributing to the newsgroup" except in the sense that his
>inflammatory remarks invite a lot of comment. Mostly he leeches onto a
>currently existing thread and, like the parasite that he is, turns it
>foul, ultimately killing it. I am not a "dedicated basher"; I respond
>only when attacked (and not always then). But I reserve the right to
>do so. Mainly I kill all threads I see that he's involved in, although
>I do wander into them unawares sometimes. And I do think there is a
>difference between Asano and just about anybody else in this
>newsgroup. The difference is, most people, when pressed, are capable
>of a rational response. I think if he was a Caucasian spouting racist
>invective against Nihonjin, you would be screaming for his head too.

All joking aside, I think that Rikiya Asano is probably the most
entertaining character I have ever run into on the net.  I look forward
to reading his posts because I know they're always going to be
humorously ironic at the very least.  The guy has never said anything
that has offended me, and I think that my perspective on him would
really make it very difficult for him to do so.

I'm surprised at the number of people who complain about him and refer
to certain of his character traits --and even his grammar and spelling--
so self-righteously and with such great enthusiasm, as though they were
incapable of truly appreciating the great differences they profess
between Mr. Asano and themselves.  I would expect that an understanding
of those differences would make Mr. Asano's posts much less threatening,
and angry responses from the rest of us much less likely.

If you don't want to read him, don't read him.  But if you do read him,
try to enjoy him.  Don't waste your energy hating him.
From: jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How can the USA be more competitive (was Honda vs Ford)???
Keywords: business, media, auto, management
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:11:57 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ




A helpful netter e-mailed me (thanks Andrew, :)), and pointed out that 
the number of jobs in a company does not equate with competitiveness.
Pardon.  
I should have been more precise.  I mean to say that management
should improve itself so that a company wouldn't go downhill,
and therefore, everybody loses (except Iacocca >:-), who gets a 
few million and a "golden parachute" package for retirement for his FINE WORK)

IMHO, long term growth, and stability will save jobs. 
Excessive hiring, and then firing and laying off, will be bad for morale,
and decrease job satisfaction, & then will affect quality.

--JP
just my two cents.

let "Responsible Capitalism" be the new buzz word.
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:52:15 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: This week in Black American History
	<1jrsr6INNbgr@shelley.u.washington.edu>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> 
>January 25   Sojourner Truth addressed the first Black Women's Rights
>                Convention, Akron Ohio, 1851
> 
>January 26   54th Regiment, first Black infantry unit, formed 1863
>             Executive Order 9981, to end segregation in US Armed Forces
>                signed by President Harry Truman, 1948
> 
>January 27   Opera singer Leontyne Price makes her debut at the
>                Metropolitan Opera House 1961
> 
>January 28   John Brown organized raid on Arsenal at Harper's Ferty, 1858
>             Philadelphia's Free Africa Society organized, 1787
>             Joseph Howze named auxiliary bishop of Misissippi 1973
> 
>January 29   Franics L. Cardoza elected State Treasurer of South
>                Carolina, 1872 
>             Charles Mahoney, first Black American delegate to the UN,
>                dies 1966
> 
>January 30   William Wells Brown published first Black drama, "Leap to
Freedom"
>                1858
>             Franklin Thomas named president of the Ford Foundation 1979
> 
>January 31   Samuel L Gravely becomes first Black person to Command a
>                US warship 1962
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> 
> 
>--
>Peace.
>"[I will never have] another Jimmy Carter grain embargo, Jimmy,
> Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter grain embargo, Jimmy Carter grain embargo."
>                -- Vice President Dan Quayle during the Bentson debate

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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Yaohan...
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:45:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Yaohan was founded as a mom&pop grocery store on the island of Atami.  The
couple were devout Seicho-no-Ie followers, and their enterprise expanded to the
multinational monster company by the strength of their conviction.
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:09:13 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Henry Robertson (robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu) wrote:
OS/2> In article <7644@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
OS/2> >In article <5Z1NXB5w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us>, 
OS/2> >larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:
OS/2> >=> Hey all. I've got an idea for splitting this sig up into a new newsgroup!
OS/2> >=> How about:    soc.culture.fight.rikiya.vs.everyone    ?
OS/2> >
OS/2> >The voice of reason crying in the wilderness.
OS/2> >
OS/2> It eludes me, these crazed anti-Rikiya netters.  Obviously, he must tickle a
OS/2> sensitive chord in them, or else they wouldn't be responding the way they do.
OS/2> Come on, anti-Rikiya-ites, are you that insecure against opposing ideas?

Nah, I just think he's a bigoted prick and I enjoy flaming him.  So
sue me....

I've gotten word from his postmaster that they are investigating his
posts so I can only hope they will educate him on courteous use of
the net.

Don't get me wrong, I think that he/she/it/whatever has the right
to express his/her/its opinions on the net, but it seems apparent
that he/she/it has complete disregard for decency.  I find the
person to be a complete bigot and I will fight that person until
I'm satisfied he/she/it has learned a lesson.

Chris

--
Christopher Mauritz                 | My views reflect those of my
ritz@ritz.mordor.com                | company since I own the company.
{backbone}!rutgers!spcvxb!ritz!ritz | Ritz International, Inc.
OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2 OS/2  | Import/Export Consultants
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:46:30 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <IfMmxMW00iV1Q3J_MZ@andrew.cmu.edu> by Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>:

> As I have said before. I welcome any and all investigations into my
> communications on this forum. Already, I have a slander suit in progress
> in which a nettter has confested that the postmaster gave him
> confidentual about me that this institutions has no right by law to give
> to anyone without my consent.

Have your sysadmin and school administrators talked to you about your public
death threats here?  Stay tuned....


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------  
"Read my lips, no new Haitians.  Ack!" - Bill the Prez
------------------------------------------------------------------ 
Christopher Morton
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,rec.puzzles
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Subject: Re: 3-way decision (was: Re: AKEBONO MAKES YOKOZUNA)
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:31:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.064301.14383@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|>
|> Actually, the 3 way play-off is by itself interesting.
|> 
|> The basic idea is that with 3 contestants, A,B,C; the first one who
|> wins two in a row becomes the winner.
|> Suppose in the first bout A faces B and A wins.
|> Then A faces C, and if A wins then A is the champion,
|> otherwise C faces B, and so on.
|> 
|> In the actual sumo, there was some upper limit to the number of bouts,
|> but here let's take the theoretical case that the competition goes on
|> until the champion is decided.
|> 
|> The question (for rec.puzzles) is:
|> supposing A,B,C have equal probability of winning over each other;
|> is this a fair competition?
|> Said otherwise, what is the probability of A,B,C winning the championship?
|> 
|> Supplement for soc.culture.japan:
|> If the play-off is 4-way, then a simple tournament method is used.
|> 

Interesting question.  As it turns out (if I didn't make a mistake)

A and B have an advantage over C (assuming A,B,C are of equal strength).

Probability that A wins = 5/14  or  35.7%
Probability that B wins = 5/14  or  35.7%
Probability that C wins = 2/7   or  28.6%

If anyone is interested, I can explain more, but it's a pain
making diagrams with ascii characters.

-- 
Yoke Tanaka                Togai InfraLogic, Inc.       "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             5 Vanderbilt, Irvine, Calif 92718, USA
gordius!til!tanaka         714-975-8522
From: jpr1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James P. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:53:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Linda has some good points. Henry too. We probably have to learn to
>live with Riki, like it or not. I learned a long time ago not to
>respond to his posts and get him going off on tangents. Could people
>please try to confine Riki baiting to private email, if you must
>do it, and keep the public stuff only for discussion of his ideas?
>
>Seriously.
>
>- Bill Lambert


Yes.


I think there is only one reason someone posts things such as this Riki.
It is to deliberately make people angry.  I wonder why he wants us to be
angry.  (He is a guy right?  I'm not so good at Japanese names yet.)

Too bad we argue like this.  We Amercians and Japanese have a lot of
misunderstanding to worry about already.

sayonara,

Jim

-- 
James P. Reynolds       (that's Jim to you and me.)     jpr1@lehigh.edu
     Lehigh University Materials Science Rules          jreynolds@igc.org
From: seb@stein.u.washington.edu (-s e b a s t i a n-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Rie Miyazawa and Takahanada
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:11:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

>>I don't remember if they gave any details as to
>>the reasons ... maybe somebody else out there in the ether knows...?

>When I visited Japan this winter, I heard all over the place that Rie-mama
>(Rie's mom) was the main reason for the break-up.  It seems that Takahanada's
>parents got tired of Rie's mother, too.
>may s.

	isn't rie's mom or dad polish, not japanese? please confirm
	on this, thanx. and also, what's wrong with rie's mom?

	/seb@u.washington.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Recipe for Okonomiyaki?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:06:36 GMT

yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:

>The only commonality I can find between the Hiroshima and Kansai
>versions of okonomiyaki is the name of the dish. The Hiroshima
>version looks like a soft shelled taco with fried noodles inside.
>Quite weird.  Tastes good, though :-)...

Did you know that some places in Hiroshima put HIROSHIMA KAKI(oyster) in 
okonomiyaki(well, there're places where they'd put ANYTHING the customers 
ask as long as they have it in refregerator)?

...and the useless trivia says only the tourists use the chopsticks to eat
okonomiyaki in Hiroshima.  Instead, ...gosh...I don't remember what we call 
that stuff (even in Japanese)...could you help me if you have any idea?

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of No Hexes                   htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas                    US Mail: NT 5527, Denton, TX 76203 USA
$@EDJU>08<!wKL%F%-%5%9=#N)Bg(J

           "Don't you think it's sometimes wise not to grow up?"

                                              -- Rolling Stones
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:44:24 GMT
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

In article <1k7hk4INNd25@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
	keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:

>>I am so sorry to read that.
>>But I dare say, pinup-girl type of women can attract more students
>>than non-pinup-girl type of women can do. English schools are not
>>compulsory, that is, making money is their purpose. For that purpose,
>>they should hire those who can make more money. That's the way they
>>do their business, not a racial discrimination at all.
> 
>Despite your cursory sympathy expressed at the beginning of your
>posting, you don't seem to get the definition of discrimination at all.

I don't think so.
That's not a RACIAL discrimination, but a kinda SEXUAL discrimination,
isn't it? They do it in the way they do because they wanna make money.
And I do feel sorry about that. Alright?

>And what would you say if you applied for a job and then being
>told:
>
>"man with a longer dick" can attract more students than "man with
>shorter counterpart." Our English school is a private business and
>has to make money. Sorry, I can't hire you.

NOT THAT SHORT !! :-)

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yamakami@cs.toronto.edu (Tomoyuki Yamakami)
Subject: Wanted: a used TV set !
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:08:27 GMT




**********************************************************************

              Wanted: A second hand color TV set !

**********************************************************************


      I am looking for a color TV set which is used and sells cheap.
      Please contact me if you have another TV set or you know a friend
      who will dump it away. 
      Thank you ! 


                              
               Tomoyuki Yamakami

                 Department of Computer Science
                 University of Toronto
                 Toronto, Ontario
                 Canada M5S 1A4
 
                 E-mail: yamakami@cs.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: shin@clover.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Was Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:26:28 GMT

Back to the origin:
>In <1993Jan14.154106.988@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>Strangely enough, her neighbors seem to have an open mistrust of Japan and
>>her motives. 

Mr J Sullivan wrote:
>"We fear what we do not understand." :)
>America is afraid of Japan, too.. $$$ (not nukes) speaks quite loudly these
>days, and it can get you what you want. Southeast Asia, perhaps.. >:)

>shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:
>>In terms of minding their own business and keeping to themselves, that's
>>exactly some of qualities Japan is known to *not* have, based on
>>historical facts, in that part of Asia.  Based on what Mr J Sullivan
>>comes forward with such absurd observations?

In article <justin.728143910@hp750> justin@hp750.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>Do not confuse such actions with ambitions.. Historically, Japan feels
>that Asia belongs to them, and everyone else needs to be forced out.
>Going back further, look at how Japan isolated itself and how it is still
>a 'pure' society (in terms of race and culture)..

I am lost: *exactly* Japan's actions of the past are basis of mistrust by 
Japan's neighbors so who's to tell Japan's ambitions are not to worry??????

Talking of 'pure' society (nothing to be neither ashamed nor proud of, just
to be safe in the net), what's that has to do with mistrust of Japan's 
neighbors?  Last I read in s.c.korean, most racially 'pure' country on the
face of the earth was North Korea, followed by South Korea and then by Japan,
but that does not meaning a thing with mistrust of Japan's neighbors as Mr
Mike Fester suggested initially.
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Miyazawa's remarks
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:31:24 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <lmds46INN6p1@news.bbn.com> jhewitt@bbn.com (Jim Hewitt) writes:
>Here is part of Miyazawa's 'infamous' remarks before the Diet budget committee
>last year. 
>(sorry, I've lost the name of the person who kindly
>supplied the original text):
>
>--- transcript begins ---
>$B:#%"%a%j%+$K7g$1$F$*$j$^$9$b$N$C$F$$$$$^$9$+!"$3$N==2?G/(J
>$B$3$3$K;j$C$?=j0J$r8+$F$$$-$^$9$H!"J*$r:n$k$H$$$&$+!"(J
>$B2ACM$r@8$`$H$$$&$3$H$K$D$$$F$N2r<a$,Hs>o$K%k!<%9$K(J
>$B$J$C$?$H?=$7$^$9$+!"$=$&$$$&3[$K4@$r$7$F!"0l$DJ*$r(J
>$BAOB$$7$F$/$C$F$$$&!"6PO+$NNQM}$G$4$6$$$^$9$+!"F/$/(J
>$BNQM}4Q$F$$$&$N$,7g$1$F$$$k$s$8$c$J$$$+$H$$$&$3$H$r(J
>$B$:!<$C$H;W$C$F$^$$$j$^$7$?!#$G!":#8f?4G[$K$J$C$F$i$C$7$c$k$N$O(J
>$B;d$O@5$K$=$N$3$H$@$H;W$$$^$9$7!"$"$k0UL#$G$o$,9q$N!V%P%V%k!W(J
>$B$H$$$&$b$N$K$b$=$&$$$&MWAG$,$"$C$?$s$@$H;W$$$^$9!#(J
>--- transcript ends ---
>
>My translation:
>
>Isn't something apparently lacking today in America, looking at what America 
>has come to over the last ten years or so, in terms of making [physical] 
>things, in terms of creating value, haven't things become terribly loose; 
>sweating from the brow, creating [physical] things, is the work ethic present, 
>isn't the attitude toward working lacking; this is what I have been 
>definitely thinking.  So, I think [the committee's] worrying should be about 
>these matters, I think in a sense our nation's "bubble" has these sorts of 
>elements. 
>------------------------------------
>
>
>Granted that as a gaijin I could be missing some nuances, this remark isn't 
>that hard to understand.  "Loose" is from the wasei-eigo "ruuzu" which
>might be closer to "sloppy".  My take on it was he was doing what Americans
>do when they warn about the US getting the 'British disease'.  Talk like this 
>isn't complimentary toward Americans (I bet the Brits don't like it either),
>but it's tame compared to what you can
>hear and read every day in Tokyo (I've lived in Tokyo 2.5 years).  For
>example, a front-page editorial in the Asahi Shimbun this December said,
>"...As we all know 30% of Americans can't read."  

The first comment at the top is not the one that made Americans angry.
This second one you mention just above from the Asahi Shimbun is
rooted in his original comment that *did* cause problems. That's where
he says: "Amerika-jin 3-wari ji wo yomenai."  and also says Americans
don't work hard. Hey, I have no problem that it may or may not be
true, that's not my dispute, but he did say it and I don't want
history to be re-written to read that he didn't.

I'm still looking.
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               CompuServe:  70402,3020
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:42:16 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima
	<C122Bs.9FI@NCoast.ORG>

Mr. Morton writes:( sorry I couldn't ignore you any longer)

.

>I remember from the scriptures that Peter said, "It's easier to get a camel
>through the eye of a needle than to get Rikiko into a decent Japanese
>university".

Do you know that you may have committed the unforgivable sin? By
attributing to the Holy Ghost something that is evil. In this case, a
lie! You know that you were lying on God's Holy Word! You should
consider this. As for the Japanese University stuff- I have accepted
this fact for a long time. So, your continual
beagerring of this point is hopeless.

I'am a master student in America. This is all that matters now. I oplan
in the future to enter at least two universities when I get back to
Nippon. One of them is the Tokyo University of the Fine Arts and Music.
At first, I wrote this big post comparing you to Wayne Williams but the
computer machine cut off on me. So, nothing else.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japan and Israel
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:34:43 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

I'm not confusing economics with anti-semitism, but then what you're 
basically admitting by your post is that Japanese business on the 
whole has no morals. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, and 
I don't mean to insist on Judeo-Christian morals in business, 
however, for the world community, there should be some things where 
business is affected.  For instance, the world-wide alienation of 
South Africa.  Right now, China is a touchy subject. Japan Inc is 
doing a great job there, and some US companies are doing a good job 
there too (ie, making $$). However I am in favor of revoking MFN for 
China.  In the long run, it is the best we can do for them. Here we 
spend billions and billions trying to let democracy bud (and 
sometimes cramming it down other's throats militarily, ie, Grenada) 
but what do we do with China? Reward the hardliners with MFN. I'm 
glad Clinton is president now... I hope he does not continue MFN.  
Purely business-wise, you could argue who cares?  In fact, who cares 
if they use prison labor?  Who cares if they beat and whip their 
workers, hey, this is business.  But there does come a point where 
you have to have some personal morals, I believe, in business. Not 
someone else's perhaps, but your own.  
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
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