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From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: UFN and String Representation of DN
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:24:42 GMT

A revised version of the String Representation of DN is available from
the UCL archives, and is being submitted as an I-D.   This contains
the edits agreed in San Diego.

Dave, Erik,

The WG recommended that this I-D and the User Friendly Naming I-D (no
changes required) be submitted as RFCs.   The String form should be
proposed standard, and the UFN experimental.   


Steve





OSI-DS 23
osi-ds-23-02.ps
osi-ds-23-02.txt
        A String Representation of Distinguished Names
        S.E. Hardcastle-Kille
        April 1992
        Abstract:
The OSI Directory uses distinguished names as the primary keys to
entries in the directory.  Distinguished Names are encoded in ASN.1.
When a distinguished name is communicated between to users not using a
directory protocol (e.g., in a mail message), there is a need to have
a user-oriented string representation of distinguished name.




The following topics  may be obtained from the info-server
using a request in the form:
        request: osi-ds
        topic: <one of topics the below>

For example:

From: Joe.Soap@somedomain
To: info-server@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Anything you like

request: osi-ds
topic: scope.txt	


Files are available in Text, Postscript or both.   
    FILENAME.txt for plain text format
    FILENAME.ps  for postscript

Note that not all the files are available in all the formats.

All documents are numbered, in the form OSI-DS nnn or
 OSI-DS-MINUTES nnn

The files are also available by FTP, NIFTP, and  FTAM.

FTP to CS.UCL.AC.UK, username anonymous and your own name as password
		cd osi-ds; 

FTAM to bells, computer science, university college london, gb 
   username = anon, no password

NIFTP to uk.ac.ucl.cs, binary mode, username  =  guest,
     password  =  (Your  mail address in the form user@site)
     filenames should be prepended with <OSI-DS> (Note that the
     angle brackets and capital letters are vital)
From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Another version of OSI-DS 23 (DN String representation)
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:16:14 GMT

A small problem with the BNF.   


OSI-DS 23
osi-ds-23-03.ps
osi-ds-23-03.txt
        A String Representation of Distinguished Names
        S.E. Hardcastle-Kille
        April 1992
        Abstract:
The OSI Directory uses distinguished names as the primary keys to
entries in the directory.  Distinguished Names are encoded in ASN.1.
When a distinguished name is communicated between to users not using a
directory protocol (e.g., in a mail message), there is a need to have
a user-oriented string representation of distinguished name.




The following topics  may be obtained from the info-server
using a request in the form:
        request: osi-ds
        topic: <one of topics the below>

For example:

From: Joe.Soap@somedomain
To: info-server@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Anything you like

request: osi-ds
topic: scope.txt	


Files are available in Text, Postscript or both.   
    FILENAME.txt for plain text format
    FILENAME.ps  for postscript

Note that not all the files are available in all the formats.

All documents are numbered, in the form OSI-DS nnn or
 OSI-DS-MINUTES nnn

The files are also available by FTP, NIFTP, and  FTAM.

FTP to CS.UCL.AC.UK, username anonymous and your own name as password
		cd osi-ds; 

FTAM to bells, computer science, university college london, gb 
   username = anon, no password

NIFTP to uk.ac.ucl.cs, binary mode, username  =  guest,
     password  =  (Your  mail address in the form user@site)
     filenames should be prepended with <OSI-DS> (Note that the
     angle brackets and capital letters are vital)
From: pays@faugeres.inria.fr
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: DSA Stats for the fortnight ....
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:21:51 GMT


FR,CNRS,opaxdsa, mail, telephone Number
	 22  18    18.18   0.1   0.1  0.10 dsa_available
	  5   1    80.00  13.6  40.1 25.71 X121
	 17  17     0.00    -     -    -   X121
....

....


France Master (FR,emse,opaxdsa, 	 71  71     0.00    -     -    -   dsa_available )
	 15  15     0.00    -     -    -   X121
	 56  56     0.00    -     -    -   X121





Again I have to observe that something has been changed in the probing process,
because

   1. FR emse OPAXdsa
	is still the same soft on the same machine
	and the same availability as before

	while stats were between 90 and 100 % for last year
		they are now 0!

	[[ BTW there is no much sense in probing this phased out DSA
	even if it still runs ]]


   2. FR urec OPAXdsa
	the new and official french master has been available
	at least 90 to 95% of the time, which is far from the figures given
	by Steve.

	[[ We have logs proving the access from many QUIPU DSA
	all around the world at any hours]]

Steve are you sure you are using the correct PSAP for these DSA?

-- PAP


a few examples of the log today: <C=FR; O=CNRS; CN=OPAXdsa>,
(but this could be done for any day in the given period)


Fri Apr 10 10:19:52 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       CN;
                        Chinchilla>>>
Directory accessed via DSP



Fri Apr 10 10:34:06 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       CN;
                        "Vampire Bat">>>




Fri Apr 10 10:35:58 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       C;
                        < PrintableString= AU>>>;
        <       <       O;
                        DMD>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        "Little Spotted Cat">>>


Fri Apr 10 11:00:41 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       C;
                        < PrintableString= AU>>>;
        <       <       O;
                        DMD>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        Echidna>>>



Fri Apr 10 11:41:56 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       CN;
                        "Giant Tortoise">>>



Fri Apr 10 11:44:37 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       C;
                        < PrintableString= GB>>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        Vicuna>>>




Fri Apr 10 12:34:16 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       City;
                        Europe>>;
        <       <       O;
                        Cosine>>;
        <       <       OU;
                        Paradise>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        "Ocellated Turkey">>>



Fri Apr 10 14:27:54 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       C;
                        < PrintableString= FR>>>;
        <       <       O;
                        E3X>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        "E3X-dsa">>>




Fri Apr 10 16:30:43 1992
:
For Directory User:
<       <       <       C;
                        < PrintableString= US>>>;
        <       <       CN;
                        "Woolly Monkey">>>
Directory accessed via DSP
From: dave@sabre.bellcore.com (Dave Piscitello)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: Six Internet Drafts
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:21:30 GMT

fire them off:-)
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Document representation and optimized retrieval
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:12:04 GMT



Recently, there was a discussion going on concerning document representation 
and retrieval at this list. The following might be of interest for you:

AIC Systems Laboratories, Tohoku University and WIDE (all in Japan) have a
project (Soft Pages Project) running that deals with representing and 
retrieving of fileserver information by use of the X.500 Directory.  

The aim is to provide users with information not only about the set of 
fileservers holding the files they want but also the most cost-effective
site ( from the network management  point of view) from which the file may 
be retrieved  (by ftp, ..). 
Optimization can be done for speed, cost,traffic-load .. . That is, 
comprehensive support will be provided for users for file retrieval.
					
Two aspects are covered in this project. The first deals with the Directory 
representation of the contents of fileservers. We have done it in a manner
similiar to that of W. Yeong (see his entries at o=Internet@ou=FTP Archives).

The second aspect deals with the storage of network configuration information
which is (in our opinion) a very useful application of the  Directory and can be 
used by a multitude of applications. An image of the network (the aim 
is an Internet image in future) in terms of trunk lines and (major) 
nodes/gateways is represented in the Directory. Line and node objects have 
some attributes (like speed, costs, delay, etc.) that allow an 
evaluation/comparison of network connections.

Soft Pages Project uses the above features to give users a cost-effective
ftp-site for a sought file.

A lot of costly bandwidth, particularly in overseas links, is used for ftp.
It is believed that if local alternatives for file retrieval is used more
often, a lot of costly bandwidth, particularly in overseas links, will be 
released. This is because files exist in multiple copies not only all over
the world but even within one country or organization. The problem we face
today is that even if users are aware of their inefficient file retrieval 
they lack the knowledge of alternatives.

There is a document "Optimizing Document Retrieval by Using X.500 Directory
 * Soft Pages Project" giving a detailed description. The ASCII version can
be obtained from me via e-mail and we will put a postscript version on
an anonymous ftp server soon.  

Any comments are welcome. Please either post to this list or e-mail me.
There is also a mailing list 'spp@aic.co.jp' discussing Soft Pages issues.
To join send a mail to 'spp-request@aic.co.jp'.


Thomas

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From: mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us (Marshall Rose)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: Draft minutes of the San Diego Meeting
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:11:09 GMT

> Security - The NADF started looking at it last year.  A Directory Bill 
> Of Rights has been published as an RFC <<<RFC#?>>>.  Each word of the 
> Bill of Rights has been lovingly crafted to both ensure rights and  
> require nothing.

The RFC number is 1295.  Also the characterization of "require nothing"
is incorrect and unfair.  The statement made was "each right says
exactly what it says, nothing more and nothing less".  

Please fix the minutes.

Thanks,

/mtr
From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Six Internet Drafts
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:13:36 GMT

I have edited 6 out of 7 of the MHS-DS I-Ds, and am submitting them now.
They will be annonced on the usual channels.   

The missing one is the interesting one (MHS use of Directory).   This 
requires a bit more work.   I thought that it would be useful to get 
the others out ASAP.   

Steve
From: sri@qsun.att.com
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Please add
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:24:20 GMT

Please add me to the discussion group. Thanks.

srinivas r. sataluri, at&t bell labs., sri@qsun.att.com
From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: OSI-DS 30 (DIT Counting)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:50:23 GMT

The San Diego meeting said that this should be an I-D.  I have
reformatted this document in the approved manner, and am submitting
it.   There are no other changes, and so I have not give a new version
number.


Steve
From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: OSI-DS 12 - revised
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:21:32 GMT

This is the version with the agreed edit (San Diego).   This is now ready
to be sumitted as an RFC.

Steve


OSI-DS 12
osi-ds-12-05.ps
osi-ds-12-05.txt
   P. Barker
   S.E. Kille
   January 1992
   Naming Guidelines for Directory Pilots
   draft-ietf-osids-dirpilots-03.ps
   Abstract:
Deployment of a Directory will benefit from following certain
guidelines.  This document defines a number of naming guidelines.
Alignment to these guidelines is recommended for directory pilots.







The following topics  may be obtained from the info-server
using a request in the form:
        request: osi-ds
        topic: <one of topics the below>

For example:

From: Joe.Soap@somedomain
To: info-server@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Anything you like

request: osi-ds
topic: scope.txt	


Files are available in Text, Postscript or both.   
    FILENAME.txt for plain text format
    FILENAME.ps  for postscript

Note that not all the files are available in all the formats.

All documents are numbered, in the form OSI-DS nnn or
 OSI-DS-MINUTES nnn

The files are also available by FTP, NIFTP, and  FTAM.

FTP to CS.UCL.AC.UK, username anonymous and your own name as password
		cd osi-ds; 

FTAM to bells, computer science, university college london, gb 
   username = anon, no password

NIFTP to uk.ac.ucl.cs, binary mode, username  =  guest,
     password  =  (Your  mail address in the form user@site)
     filenames should be prepended with <OSI-DS> (Note that the
     angle brackets and capital letters are vital)
From: S.Titcombe@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Titcombe)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: DSA Stats for the fortnight ....
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:47:29 GMT


	Hi there,

   >Again I have to observe that something has been changed in the probing process,
   >because
   >   1. FR emse OPAXdsa
   >	is still the same soft on the same machine
   >	and the same availability as before
   >
   >	while stats were between 90 and 100 % for last year
   >		they are now 0!
   >
   >	[[ BTW there is no much sense in probing this phased out DSA
   >	even if it still runs ]]
   >
   >
   >   2. FR urec OPAXdsa
   >	the new and official french master has been available
   >	at least 90 to 95% of the time, which is far from the figures given
   >	by Steve.
   >
   >	[[ We have logs proving the access from many QUIPU DSA
   >	all around the world at any hours]]
There has been no change in the probe at all. I have removed the old "emse"
and replaced it with the new one. The only difference that this makes is a:
the number of probes decreases, and b: the output format gets "mushed" for
one set of results. 

   >Steve are you sure you are using the correct PSAP for these DSA?
I'm using the one in the directory! I hope that one is right.

	Steve Titcombe
	   University College London.
From: @mcc.com:rosenthl@cadillac.cad.mcc.com (rosenthl)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: X.500 clients on Mac and PC
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:54:10 GMT


I'm investigating the existence of X.500 clients for the Mac and PCs.

For the Mac, I've discovered something named maX.500/DIXIE.
Can anyone tell me what DIXIE is?  I'm assuming it's a "client
gateway" that speaks the DAP to a given server, and provides some
lighter-weight protocol to the actual Mac client.  True?

For the PCs, any packages out there?
From: S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hardcastle-Kille)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: New version of LDBP (Now called LDAP)
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:09:28 GMT


This is being submitted as an Internet Draft

Steve



OSI-DS 26
osi-ds-26-01.txt
        Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
        W. Yeong
        T. Howes
        S.E. Hardcastle-Kille
        February 1992
        Abstract:
The tremendous interest in X.500 [1,2] technology in the Internet has
lead to efforts to reduce the high ``cost of entry'' associated with use
of the technology, such as the Directory Assistance Service [3] and
DIXIE [4]. While efforts such as these have met with success, they have
been solutions based on particular implementations and as such have lim-
ited applicability.  This document continues the efforts to define
Directory protocol alternatives but departs from previous efforts in
that it consciously avoids dependence on particular implementations.

The protocol described in this document is the first of a series of pro-
tocols designed to provide access to the Directory while not incurring
the resource requirements of the Directory Access Protocol (DAP). This
protocol is specifically targeted at simple management applications and
browser applications that provide simple read/write interactive access
to the Directory, and is intended to be a complement to the DAP itself.
From: epg@gateway.mitre.org (Ella P. Gardner)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Directory Security
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:07:49 GMT

We are interested in locating DSA and DUA products that have
implemented strong authentication or protected simple authentication and
signed information.  Has anyone done it for Quipu?

Thanks
Ella Gardner
MITRE
From: tim@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Tim Howes)
Newsgroups: aus.net.directory.osi-ds
Subject: Re: X.500 clients on Mac and PC
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:54:14 GMT

> For the Mac, I've discovered something named maX.500/DIXIE.
> Can anyone tell me what DIXIE is?  I'm assuming it's a "client
> gateway" that speaks the DAP to a given server, and provides some
> lighter-weight protocol to the actual Mac client.  True?

True.  It's described in rfc 1246.    -- Tim
From: james@ee.uts.edu.au (A. James Boswell)
Subject: Underwater speakers
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:52:35 GMT
Summary: Can you help me source underwater speakers ?
Keywords: underwater speakers


Hello,
It's a case of "the net to the rescue" again. Can anyone help me with
info about underwater speakers. I believe they are used for such things
as synchronised swimming events etc. What I am after is a manufacturer
or supplier (preferably in Australia) and a rough price.

Any details appreciated, email prefered.

Many thanks,

James.

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Xref: sparky aus.general:847 talk.politics.space:703
From: william@syacus.acus.oz.au (William Mason)
Newsgroups: aus.general,talk.politics.space
Subject: Re: Investment Tax Measure (....in Australia..)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:05:51 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney

ron@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Ron Van Schyndel) writes:
>In talk.politics.space, szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo) writes:

>>In article <m0lRtlJ-0000LMC@crash.cts.com> jim@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
>>>Will someone with access please cross post this to sci.politics?

>>Done.  Jim's article follows:

>>The current situation in Congress opens the possibility of getting
>>a major investment tax incentive put into place which would be a
>>great help to economic conversion and the capitalization of space
>>startups.  
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>The following tax relief must be enacted as soon as possible.
>>A list of all the members of the Ways and Means Committee is
>>
>>[letter to US Congress members]

>	... Is this relevant to the current state of technological 
>	development in Aus.
>	What do people think ?   Should a variant of this be intriduced in
>	australia?  Will it work ?

Probably.  At present there is a 150% tax write-off for R&D funding.
Clever Management Investement Companies (MIC) could create ways to
exploit this.  

Also, this is National Volunteers Week.  Donations to volunteer and 
non-profit organisations are 100% tax deductible, too.

Volunteers save Australia $7 billion a year.


>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Members of the Ways and Means Committee in Microsoft Word format.
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>[list of committe members and their addresses]
>>-- 
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>>Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 644-8135 (1200/2400, N81) 
>-- 
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>Monash University (Caulfield Campus)  ron%monu6.cc.monash.edu.au@uunet.UU.NET
>CAULFIELD EAST, Victoria, AUSTRALIA   {hplabs,mcvax,uunet,ukc}!munnari!monu6..
>Location: 37 52 38.8S  145 02 42.0E   Ph: +61 3-573-2567   Fax: +61 3-573-2350 
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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: What's Australia's country code (on the phone)?
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:44:44 GMT

Hello J.Gao!


In a message posted <Saturday March 28 1992>, J.Gao wrote to All:

 JG> Telecom has recently advised 0015 for use with Fax; what's the reason?

I believe switching delays with the Satellite can affect fax transmission. I've
no idea in what way though. The same is meant to happen to modems.

Apparently, satellite phone systems are designed with the idea that not everyone
will always be speaking, so someone else can use the circuit.

Ie if you're talking to someone, and nobody is speaking, someone else can use
the circuit, hence allowing more satellite calls than circuits. When modems and
faxs are not transmitting, they don't want to be swapped out though. Many
modems, particularly faster ones, allow you to turn on guard tones (&G1 I
believe). This makes the modem transmit another signal to hold the circuit.

Hope this is not entirely meaningless :-)

Regards,
Hamish

 * Origin: Cloud Nine, Melbourne, Australia. cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (3:635/552)
From: beam@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Sydney Harbour Tunnel Update #17 (Q
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:40:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:otc.otca.oz:5381:peg:993300042:000:66
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!beam    Apr 12 13:40:00 1992


21 trip for the price of 20 isn't quite 5%, but what the heck :-)
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: cn@allgfx.agi.oz.au (Con Neri)
Subject: Please Help Me
Organization: All Graphic Industries R+D
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:49:58 GMT

Hi there netters,
	I am trying to get our news feed going, If anyone can read this
message, can you please let me know.

thanks in advance
Con Neri
-- 
CON NERI
All Graphic R+D				e-mail: cn@allgfx.agi.oz.au
					tele:   +61-3-3471722
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: jhb@maths.su.oz.au (John Brownie)
Subject: Re: Sydney Harbour Tunnel Update #17 (Q
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:26:45 GMT

In <993300042@peg> beam@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:

>21 trip for the price of 20 isn't quite 5%, but what the heck :-)

It depends on how you get your tokens.  You can buy a bag on your way
across the Bridge and get that trip free: 21 trips for the price of
20.  Otherwise, you can buy a bag elsewhere, and get 20 trips for the
price of 19 (a marginally better deal :-)
--
John Brownie
School of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Sydney
Internet: jhb@maths.su.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: bill@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Logan Lee)
Subject: Re: Underwater speakers
Keywords: underwater speakers
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:14:30 GMT

In article <james.703129955@ee.uts.EDU.AU> james@ee.uts.edu.au (A. James Boswell) writes:
>
>Hello,
>It's a case of "the net to the rescue" again. Can anyone help me with
>info about underwater speakers.

Harold Holt?