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From: pcnot4me@cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt)
Subject: Indexing man pages (Re: Digital Librarian poops out!)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:03:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.081140.1087@glocke.hotb.sub.org> frank@glocke.hotb.sub.org (Frank Thomas) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.151426.24641@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>  
>asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees Munshi) writes:
>> Can anyone with 3.0 try testing DL under 3.0. The other bug
>> seems to be regular expression search. It seems that it does
>> not understand expressions like u*stand, but will do u* and
>> *stand. Does it have a different regexp syntax, or is this
>> another bug?

Different from what?  Acording to the "standard" Unix regular expression
syntax (ed, vi, Grep, etc.), you asked for a string starting with 0 or
or more u's followed by "stand".  Use "u.*stand".  This is u followed 
by zero or more of any character fo0llowed by "stand".

>There is another bug(?) in DL (NS2.1):
>If you switch to match prefixes in the preferences it only finds those  
>words that are really prefix => `map` doesn`t match `map` but `maps`.
>I think this at least counter intuitive.

Hmmm.  If I set the match preference to "Prefix", then do a search for
"Zilog" it brings up the relevant manual pages.  

I'm running 2.2 so maybe they fixed this.

Does anyone know the right way to index a bunch of man pages?  I tried
ixBuild with the -fman and it indexed my local man pages but an ixDump
of the index showed the file type as ASCII.  The only way I could
get them properly indexed was by copying them all to /tmp and doing
an installman on all of them.  This was a big waste since the catx
directories already existed.  It works great now, though.

-- 
 Craig Pratt                                            pcnot4me@cs.montana.edu
 Montana State University, Bozeman MT              gcp1070@msu.oscs.montana.edu
    Yes, that's right, you too can now test and debug Microsoft Windows NT 
       for the special introductory price of $69!!!  How can you lose?!?
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From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: 3.0 is really shipping
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: really really
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:59:18 GMT


We have 3.0 up and running on some NeXTs here at Princeton:

Sep  8 04:57:17 window mach: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992;
root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K

The kernel was obviously built after 3.0 beta shipped.  Our friendly cs stooges  
installed it over the weekend.  It seems stable.

No one told me not to tell anyone.

Christopher Penrose
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: NeXT's commitment to academe
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:27:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.013548.24221@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling) writes:

>Peter van Cuylenberg recently told me that NeXT had identified three  
>distinct markets (direct corporate sales including government,  
>dealers/VARs/VADs/system integrators, and academe), and that NeXT would be  
>reorganizing its sales force to explicitly reflect these three different  
>markets.

So what?  When and if this translates to support for academic
customers like I've come to expect from the likes of DEC and Sun for
their UNIX platforms, this will mean something.  Right now, I consider
this recorganzation to be explained by entropy or brownian motion.
Heat and no light.

> Indeed, actions speak louder than words.

Yeah, when I get my reported bugs in NeXT's software fixed, these
actions will mean something.

louie
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From: matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Looking for electronic grade book...
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-6487]: crawfish.math.tulane.edu
Organization: Math dept, Tulane University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.200744.26757@cs.tulane.edu>, I asked for information
about an "electronic gradebook".  Lots of nice folks pointed me towards
a program called "sc".  It's a public spreadsheet program, and does
exactly what I want it to.

Thanks again to all who replied to me (there were quite a few :)!

Matt

--
 Matt Hopkins - Tulane University - Dept of Mathematics - New Orleans
        matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (NeXT Mail accepted!)
 "Do you hate people?" "No ... but I seem to feel better when they're
          not around." - Barfly  "Do YOU suck da heads?"
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Is there a startup file during login?
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:40:10 GMT

ray@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Ray Lauff) writes:
> Most Unix systems (most I've used at least) have a way of
> executing a script upon user login systemwide (such as /etc/cshrc).
> Is there any such file on the NeXT that I can edit?

Each shell has it's own file, so you may need to setup more than one file if  
you have some users using a shell other than csh.

/etc/login.std     for csh or tcsh
/etc/profile       for bash
/etc/profile.std   for sh
/etc/zlogin        for zsh

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Getting EPS out of Framemaker
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:09:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MSU KBS Lab
Originator: punch@sol.cps.msu.edu

I'm using frame-maker to make some figures for a latex document. What
I'd LIKE to do is turn each single-page framemaker figure into a .eps
file. However I can't seem to do this directly. If I save the
postscript image of the document via the print command I get the whole
page and changing/adding a %%BoundingBox does not appear simple. Any
ideas on how to get a .eps file from a frame document? Thanks in
advance. 

					>>>bill<<<
					punch@cps.msu.edu
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 3.0 - Increased swapfile?
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:51:36 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu (Neil Greene) writes:
: Has anyone noticed increased swapping in NS3.0 over NS2.x?  Several of us here  
: in town have noticed an increase in size of our swapfiles of about 15-20 Megs.   
: Mine has increase approximately 12 megabytes now, while a friends has increased  
: 15-20.


I don't know about this, but a more general swapfile question:

Mine is set as a lowat of about 20meg, but I've a internal 400mb and an
external 1.6Gb...should i change the setting so that it si bigger?

I have 32Mb of ram, but things like Icon still constantly swap..


Thanks,
Scott
From: bobcook@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Bob Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:06:23 GMT
Reply-To: bobcook@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Bob Cook)

William E. Aitken writes
>
>My package included 
>
>	1) The drive itself
>	2) The power cable
>	3) a software licence 
>	4) a CD-ROM caddy.
>
>Given that the drive has a sticker on it saying to read the user manual
>before use, I'd expected to find one.  Should one have been present?
>Is anything else missing?

We got two additional things.  One is a cable with a SCSI connector on one end  
and a connector that hooks to the drive on the other.  That's for hooking the  
drive to your NeXT.  The second is a "terminator" thingy that can be used to  
terminate your SCSI chain.  (Please note:  I know zero about hardware, so there  
may be some details about these gadgets that are wrong.  The only thing I'm  
SURE of is that we got two additional gadgets!)

--
Bob Cook                              bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center    NeXT mail okay
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:20:55 GMT

grio@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo) writes:

>In article <BuJ2Lr.HG1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>>Or, if you're a cheap hacker, you might want to go with what I
>>found to be the rock bottom price for ZyXEL 1496-E's.  Sheri Hamel
>>at Boston Computers & Peripherals at 617-551-0166 sold me one which
>>I received the other day.  They got it in 1.5 weeks and shipped it
>>to me COD.  

>How much did they charge for the 1496E?

Since I'm not connected with them, (except as a satisfied customer)
I don't feel bad about posting a price -
it apparently changes all the time but about 2 weeks ago they were
quoting $349 plus a few dollars shipping.  They don't take credit
cards ('yet').  It has the latest production (4.13) ROMs, including
Caller ID (too bad not in my area yet).
(technically 5.00 is the latest, but it's still in beta)
-- 
David Lemson                                                (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                  BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TeX and PostScript output
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:33:13 GMT
Reply-To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Organization: Agnus' new home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany

Every NeXT application uses the "Page Setup" panal to give me the
possibility to print two pages (or more) on one paper. But TeXview
does not. So, is there any possibility to make TeXview (or "dvips")
printing two pages of text on one page of paper?? (I do not have
the TeX source file, I only have the DVI file.)

Matthias
-- 
** Matthias Zepf, Riegelaeckerstrasse 27, 7250 Leonberg, Germany **
** +49 7152 41917    Email: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (NeXTmail) **
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From: yuchia@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Yuchia Huang)
Subject: how to use kermit on next
Summary: Install and use kermit ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:57:18 GMT
Keywords: kermit

I am a new user of next. I do not know how and where to get kermit for next.
I try to install a unix kermit but not work. If someone knew how to let it
work .  Please give me a mail and give me a detail steps how to install it.
my E-Mail address is  Yuchia@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu. Thank you very much.
From: sphere@netcom.com (Sam Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: FAQs...where to find them
Keywords: Answering a  Bunch of Questions
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:31:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

> You could do hardware modification to the 030 board which
> would isolate it enough to use only the cube as a power
> supply, however you can not run two monochrome monitor heads
> off the cube power supply. 

Actually, you can run two monitors without overloading the power supply.

>  In this case you would probably
> want to first boot the 030 with a display head, set the boot
> prom to boot off ttya, and attach an ascii terminal to that
> serial port. 

This is a cheaper solution. Also, Ray Bloom of Marble has pointed out that
you can attach a null modem cable to the serial ports of the two boards, open
a getty on the remote, and then use a terminal window on the '040 side to
monitor the remote. Neat idea.

Sam Goldberger
Spherical Solutions
sphere@netcom.com
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: AppInspector, ProcessMonitor, and MallocDebug problems.
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:42:28 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


Ok, I'd like to use these.  But they don't seem to work for some reason on  
my machine.  Currently running 2.2. (I'll update to 3.0 probably this  
week, but I'd like to use MallocDebug *now* if possible.)

When I open ProcessMonitor, it opens up a window called "Processes", but  
this is blank with nothing in it at all.  (ever)  When I open  
AppInspector, and select "open" from the menu, it just plain does nothing.   
No alert panel even.  And when I configure an app to use MallocDebug,  
MallocDebug continues to say that I don't own any apps configured for  
MallocDebug.

Does anyone know how to use these apps, and what my problem might be???

fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: NS 3.0, Appletalk, and Macs
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.204258.1223@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van  
Huizen) writes:
> I was pretty shocked to see that 3.0 doesn't allow you access to the  
> resource fork of Mac files. NeXT seems to think that only the data fork  
> contains any data we might be interested in!
> 
NeXT, if you're reading this, this is WAY wrong!  You need to fix this fast, or  
you will get clobbered for another missed standard.  Macbinary or apple  
single/double formats would help.

> Gordon
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Gordon Van Huizen           vox: 619.488.9411  fax: 619.488.3045
> Metrosoft                   gvh@metrosoft.com [NeXTmail welcome]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

Jim De Arras
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From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Renderman references
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:09:14 GMT

strauss@Aero.org (Daryll Strauss) writes:

>In article <1992Sep4.042713.21742@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
>|> What do you we use for Renderman References in 3.0

>A must is The RenderMan Companion (A Programmer's Guide to Realistic
>Computer Graphics) by Steve Upstill. Published by Addison-Wesley. ISBN
>0-201-50868-0

>I also recommend the RenderMan Language Specification which is available
>for about $20 directly from Pixar. (You can call Pixar and ask for
>RenderMan sales at (510) 236-4000) It defines the RIB file format (which
>the companion does not) and occationally has insights into other details
>of RenderMan.

>Both of these are slightly out of date with respect to RenderMan on the
>NeXT. Pixar, and others, are defining a spec for RenderMan 4.0. The NeXT
>implementation seems to be a preliminary version of the RenderMan 4.0
>spec. I don't know where you can get details on the new additions, I
>hope that the 3.0 final documentation includes them. 

>-- 
>Daryll Strauss          			     f	The Aerospace Corp.
>strauss@aero.org		      		     n	Mail Stop: M1-102
>...!uunet!aero.org!strauss			     o	P.O. Box 92957
>NeXTMail: daryll@harlot.rb.ca.us                     r  Los Angeles, Ca. 90009
>"It's my reality and I'll warp it if I want to!"     d	(213) 336-9358

Given that renderman is in 3.0 just how slow will an NSC perform with it.  I just really want to knowwether something can be done, albeit slowly,  rather than absolutely not being a viable option on a NSC.  I don't mind waiting for results.



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From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: Remote access of fax modems
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.211039.17162@u.washington.edu>  
warren@apl.washington.edu (Warren L. J. Fox) writes:
> We would like to be able to use the fax modem that is on
> one of the machines remotely from the other machines.  

Ok in 3.0 you can put the following in your postscript file:
%%NXFaxVersion: 300
%%NXFaxNumber: 6172586264
%%NXFaxTo: Pascal Chesnais
%%NXFaxNotify: YES
%%NXFaxHires: YES
%%NXFaxTrim: YES
%%NXNextStepVersion: 3.0

then you can use lpr -PLocal_Fax_modem mypostscript.ps

Of course you need to put the right phone number...

I do not know if this works in 2.x...  I snarfed this from preview.app...
I assume you know how to set up printers/modems for remote access
(/etc/hosts.lpd)

pasc
From: pyrian!istewart@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help w/ Mail & News
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:15:08 GMT
Organization: Pyrian Software Group, San Fran, CA, USA (415) 664-1170

I need halp with mail and news please.

Situation:
I am using a NeXTstation with a UUCP account with netcom.
OS 2.1.1 (soon 3.0)
I am using C-News.pkg from purdue server and NewsGrazer.

Mail Question:
1) My domain name was supposed to be registered, but I
can't send myself mail from Compuserve, so I guess it is not working yet.
OR do I have to do more to my sendmail.cf file?
It currently has:

# local domain name
#
# This is now set from the resolver configuration call.  If the domain
# name you would like to have appear in your mail headers is different
# from your Internet domain name, edit and uncomment the following to
# be your mail domain name.
Dmpyrian.com
Cmpyrian.com

is that right? or do I need to add more to this file or others.
I have no problem sending mail or receiving it (I can receive if it
is addressed to pyrian!istewart@netcom.com)

News questions

I may be able to send news (if you see this then yah!!!!), but have never!
received anything yet? Any suggestions?
-- 
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Pyrian Software Group               |  CIS  71101,1260
Always looking for new SW to market |  Net  istewart@pyrian.com
NeXT,Mac,PC & Sun		    | Isn't LiFE more like RiSK?
From: jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:24:22 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Co

portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:
>
> I find it interesting that in this thread (and in the
> other which was comparing NeXTStep to Windows NT), that
> the same people who were quick to label NT "vaporware"
> seem to overlook that fact that NS 486 is equally
> vaporous, even more so since NeXT is not making
> NS 486 developers kits available for $69.

Ah, but you see, NS486 is but a *port*, whereas NT is something sprung
full-grown from the frontal lobes of Microsoft.  Personally, I trust
NeXT to port a proven piece of software more than I trust Microsoft to
write one.  ;)  Now, if it was a question of MS *buying* a piece of
software and marketing it...  ;) ;)

Point is, sure, nobody's *using* NS486 today, but they *are* using NS
on Motorola.  NS is doing a hell of a lot more production work, today,
*right now*, than NT will for some time.

jb


DISCLAIMERS.



--
-- Jeff Bone ------------------------------------------------------------
        NT...  Just say N0T.   Skate UN*X!   Standard disclaimer. 
------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --
                                                                       --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:27:34 GMT

In article <jbone.716567062@splat> jbone@splat.dell.com (Jeff Bone) writes:
>portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) writes:
>>
>> I find it interesting that in this thread (and in the
>> other which was comparing NeXTStep to Windows NT), that
>> the same people who were quick to label NT "vaporware"
>> seem to overlook that fact that NS 486 is equally
>> vaporous, even more so since NeXT is not making
>> NS 486 developers kits available for $69.
>
>Ah, but you see, NS486 is but a *port*, whereas NT is something sprung
>full-grown from the frontal lobes of Microsoft.  Personally, I trust
>NeXT to port a proven piece of software more than I trust Microsoft to
>write one.  ;)  Now, if it was a question of MS *buying* a piece of
>software and marketing it...  ;) ;)

In some ways it was a question of Microsoft buying out.  Dave Cutler, one
of the chief architects of VMS, left DEC to go to Microsoft and (co?)architect
Windows NT.  Some of the mistakes embedded in VMS were eliminated (the
joys of having a relatively clean sheet) and many modern features were
added.  Paralleling VMS, it has asynchronous IO, symmetric multiprocessing,
layered device drivers, and threads.  Modern additions include the
notion of a microkernel with personality modules, the internet protocols,
OSF compliant RPC, and a log based file system.  I would expect that they
hired quite a few other high level architects/engineers (didnt NeXTworld
have an article about one of the lead MACH designers getting a major offer?)
so Windows NT should be grown from experience instead of experimentation.

    <<stuff deleted>>
>-- Jeff Bone ------------------------------------------------------------
>        NT...  Just say N0T.   Skate UN*X!   Standard disclaimer. 
>------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --

Taking things a COMPLETELY different direction, does anyone know if DG
will ever run NS on their boxes?  I recall something about 4 88100 class
chips in a box.  It wouldnt give the rumored NeXT dual 88110 machine a run for
its money, but for the power hungry (and the marketing hype of having a
true multiprocessing NeXTstep system shipping) it might make a good interim
product.

Also, has anyone had a chance to play with the 3Dkit?  Can it do anything
in realtime on the 68040 (with or without the ND card) or does one really
have to wait for the NRW?

-Steve
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