HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hijacking of IA Airplane
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:53:11 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Just heard over the local radio

All from UPI (of course):

 The hijacker, described as a Hindu radical, held up a plane with a chemically-
laced bomb (or so he claimed), and forced it to land in a hurry, at Lucknow.

He wanted to speak to AB Vajpayee, who subsequently went to meet him and advised
him to surrender after assuring him that the police would not torture him. All
48 people on board flight unhurt. It was a Delhi-Patna flight, and was hijacked
shortly after take-off at ND.

The hijacker's name was Satish Chandra Pandey, and Vajpayee was in Lucknow to
attend a BJP meeting. He surrendered in Vajpayee's presence (described as India's
ex Foreign Minister) to the UP DGP Prakash Singh. He was demanding the release
of all activists connected with the mosque-destruction AND the un-banning of the
three Hindu organizations banned post-BM destruction.

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In other noos:

John Major in India for RD celebrations (he's the Chief Guest). He is expected
to pressure PVNR to let Amnesty International and Co. into Punjab and Kashmir.

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Also, a shoot-out between (get this!) the bodyguards of Punjab CM Beant Singh
and the police officials responsible for security at an India-England cricket 
match in Chandigarh. The policemen would allow only Beant Singh's vehicle into
the stadium, while the bodyguards wanted to take their vehicles in too. As the
two groups argued, one of the bodyguards (belonging to the "elite central
paramilitary force") pulled a revolver, and as police and paramilitary officers
tried to break it up, shots were fired, killing one paramilitary officer and
wounding another.

UPI reported this, quoting the Indian Express, who said that "authorities" told
them so.

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My comments: See? Most of this junk is sensationalistic. I don't got no option
but to post sensationalistic noos. Even the occasional non-sens. stuff is dull
and drab. Re this Punjab thing, if these "elite paramilitary" dudes can't even
fight a bunch of policemen without getting one of their own killed, no wonder
the insurgency needs the Army for it to be quelled. That aside from the fact that
if these guys have been spending all this time fighting each other, it's no
wonder that the terrorists have gotten away with murder so far.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Existence of God
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:24:54 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu
Keywords: Existence of God

MOOdarshan Ramachandra :) writes:
>Belal writes:
>>if we believe that matter was created by chance, and this world also came into 
>
>	It is clear your gray matter was surely created by chance :)
>	Or was it?


	It was'nt :) This guy tried to pull loads of blue wool, throwing in
	pseudo-Science to strut up his lousy attempt to sustain God.

>	Yours etc.,
>	Matrix.
>	PS: Don't bother to flame.
>       PPS: Actually, it don't matter to me :)


	Like someone said, "What is matter? Never mind. What is mind? It
	does'nt matter" :)

	FFT
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (partha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: limerick, bengali
Keywords: what?
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:40:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Bengali, hit 'n' if you dont want to read...




               Uno-nobboi, natun bochor, Guru ra sob kothai?
               Ad-da'r nei nam gandho,  har e dub-bo gojai!

                 fafat beta marche u(n)ki, deb chatterjee chup -
                 mustafa tai istopha dei, bole bahut khub!

               jyoti babur durgo tole'  kobi nobu'r kh(n)ochai!!
                                   
                    
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Notes: tole'== rocks!
       deb,mustafa, fafat are well known characters on the net!
       fafat's u(n)ki (ie peeping) relates to sneaky posts from
       SAW(wow, cuts both ways !!!) net..

      and kobi nobu: nabendu@paul.rutgers.edu 's recent verse about
      jyoti bose.. bengal lamp...

      ooops..since when i got into the habit of explaning
             everything???
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tracey@mitre.org (Tracey A. Harwood)
Subject: Teach me Gujrati?
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:29:45 GMT


I am in desperate need of a native speaker of Gujrati-- I don't know how to
spell it, only pronounce it.  I'm located in the Boston area, but to me
that encompasses a very wide area!

Please send e-mail in response to strike up a dialogue; I'll give my number
then.

I am not going to India (well, someday, I hope) but need to speak with a
family here in the States.  They, of course, speak English, but some things
cannot be translated.  I just need to learn a few important things to make
my point, or to understand better theirs.

Thanks.  :->

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
tracey@mitre.org      Conviction is a greater threat to Truth
bedford, ma               than lies.
                                                                           
- Nietszche
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hwhfac@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: SHER TIME.
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:23:44 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR



SOHBAT MEIN GEER KE NA PADI HO YE KHOO,

DENE LAGE HAI BOSE, BAGAIR ILTEJA KIYE.

	She must have surely picked up this habit in the company of others,

	She has started giving kisses without being asked for.



ZID KI HAI AUR BAAT, MAGAR WOH BURI NAHEEN,

BHOOLE SE USNE SAIKADON WAADE VAFA KIYE.


	Stubbornness is another thing, otherwise she is not bad,

	Even out ot forgetfulness she has kept many of her promises.



WAHEED.
From: moinuddi@usc.edu (Asif Moinuddin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.karnataka,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.nepal
Subject: Call 1-800-766-1818 for Indian Music Cd's& Read This !
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:19:43 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Dear Friends,

	Now, quite a wide variety of Indian music is available on CD's. 
	The following categories of music offers more than 2,500 titles 
	on Compact Discs. 


1) Hindi film hits
2) Hindi Film Instrumental
3) Ghazals
4) Qawwali
5) Hindustani ( North Indian ) Classical Vocal
6) Hindustani ( North Indian ) Classical Instrumental
7) Karnatak   ( South Indian ) Classical Vocal
8) Karnatak   ( South Indian ) Classical Instrumental
9) Drupad    (Classical Devotional )
10) Punjabi
11) Gujarati
12) Bengali
13) Telugu
14) Kannada
15) Tamil
16) Malayalam
17) Folk Music
18) Bhajans
19) Devotional
20) Bhangra
	
	And many other types of Indian music is available on CD's.

	You can also get a free catalog by calling 1-800-766-1818.
	You will however have to pay $3.00 through Credit Card for shipping
	of the catalog which contains THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF
	INDIAN CD'S AND INCLUDES ALMOST ALL THE INDIAN CD'S released
	so far. Additionally, you will receive periodic information
	about the new releases .

	You can also send $3.00 for catalog shipping through a check
	payable to Asmara Compact Disc House and mail it to the following
	address.

		Asmara Compact Disc House
		5568 Sepulveda Blvd.,
		Culver City CA 90230

Alternately, if you don't need the catalog, call 1-800-766-1818
and leave your Name and address. You will receive periodic
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You can also ask to be informed about the new releases 
by E Mail which should be operational in about a month's time.

************************************************************************
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and e-mail address.
************************************************************************

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Hope this information is useful for those interested in Indian music.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ajsingh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ajay.singh)
Subject: Re: Request Lyrics for Pal pal dil ke pas
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:58:27 GMT

In article <vikas.728178721@kitscoty> vikas@cs.UAlberta.CA (Nehru Vikas) writes:
>Hi There,
>
>   Could someone tell me which movie the song
>   "pal pal dil ke paas tum rahti ho..." is from.
>
>   Also lyrics of the song will be much appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>   Vikas





Black Mail
		Dharmendra, Rakhee




Ajay
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:54:06 GMT

In his inane article #1, FFT *saab* fabricates :

> Poppa Raghavan : raghavan@wk28.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan) writes:
> 
> >Is the sky blue? Isn't Fafat a liar? :)
> 
> 
> 	:) Now *that's* a lie :)
> 
> 	FFT

God bless his soul, just 24 to go.

Arathi.


-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu
From: vijayr@engin.umich.edu (Vijay Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Logging on to my US account from INDIA
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:58:13 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
NNTP-Posting-Host: blue.engin.umich.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Logging On to my US account from India
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: 

bear with me if this is a FAQ but I am wondering if someone knows
how I could log on to my U of M account from Bombay without 
spending mucho $$$$$.
is there a number i could dial up locally in bombay that will get
me on to a net i.e. internet , telnet (pardon ignorance)
the aim is to be able to send e-mail to people in the US as well as
India
any replies to
vijayr@maize.engin.umich.edu
or
vijay_ramakrishnan@um.cc.umich.edu
will be deeply appreciated.
thanks in advance


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Logging on to my US account from INDIA
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Logging on to my US account from India
Summary: 
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Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Gird up your langotis.  Bhote phor BJP
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 28 JAN 93 09:04:29    


In article <1k518cINNce2@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, raja@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Narayan S. Raja) writes...
> 
>                   Bhote phor BJP
>                   --------------
> 
> 
>Jai ram ji ki.  Today, again unujual experience.  
>Aj ujual after lunch I am returning to office, 
>am sitting in phront of computer.  Eyes are 
>clojing,  kundalini is flowing, meditation process 
>gradually proceeding.  Sudden tapping noise waking 
>me abruptly.  Phamous "mandrill" image on screen 

>        ________    ________     __  __      ________ 
>        |     |     |     |     (/ \/  )     |     |
>        |     |     |     |           /      |     |
>        |     |     |     |          /       |     |
>        |     |     |     |         /        |     |
>        |     |     |     |       _/ __      |     |
>        |     |     |     |      (__/ \)     |     |
>             /

	We will tolerate this non-sense too. We will take this as the price for
	independence from psuedo-secularism.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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Disclaimer:
   My employer is not responsible for my views. Read my views at your 
   own risk.
   ****
   tamso ma jyotir gamaha	   - [Lord] take me from darkness to light.
   shramam vina na kimapi saddhyam - Nothing gets accomplished without work
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: smk5@netcom.com (Shariq Khan)
Subject: F-1 on PT pay Social Security & Medicare ????
Keywords: F-1, Post Completion Training, Tax, Medicare, Social Security
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:44:08 GMT

Hi,
 I am on Post Completion training(F-1 visa). Do I have to pay social security
and Medicare. If not than is it possible to get back, what I have already paid.
Thanks.
Shariq Khan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: THE LATEST
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:54:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.194305.22749@ucselx.sdsu.edu> pjoseph@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Paul Joseph) writes:
>< Virendra Verma writes >
>< Re: Kennedy killed by a Christian/ Hitler a Christian >
>
>Just to let you know - being in the west and having a western name
>does not imply being a christian - Hitler was not a christian, 
>in fact in his war propoganda, Bibles were thrown into bon-fires.
>As for Kennedy's killer - he didnt do a very Christian thing -
>thou shalt not kill! - I am not sure if he was born a christian though.
>
>I do not agree with the statement that propmted this from Verma, that
>Gandhiji was killed by a Hindu - so what there are criminals everywhere,
>doesnt mean that that's what Hinduism preaches though.
>

I then suppose Kennedy was then by the Tooth Fairy and Gandhi was killed
by the Easter Bunny.

Stop with all the semantic BS. Hitler was a Christian. Kennedy's killer,
whoever he maybe, was probably a Christian, and Gandhi's killer was a
Hindu, albeit, a point can be made that none of the killers were following
the tenants of their faith very closely.

Rakesh Patel
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:45204 alt.visa.us:900
From: jayasim@cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Passage from the Rig Veda
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:04:54 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1993Jan22.215820.7086@cas.org> nlp54@cas.org () writes:

[passage from Rig Veda deleted]

>	ORIGIN OF LIFE IS SO CLEARLY DESCRIBED IN THE ABOVE VERSE.
>	If you can read and understand the original (Sanskrit) verse of it,
>	you can enjoy the meaning of it.  The intution of those Vedic Rishis was
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	so great that the theory of origin of life proposed by the modern day
>	astronomers/biologists/chemists/molecular biologists, is nothing but
>	the same what is said above.  The English translation does not clearly
>	disperse the greatest scientific thought of Rigveda.  One has to know
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Sanskrit and read the original to suck the honey.


I agree that the passage from the Rig Veda is fascinating and, as you 
rightly say, the intuition of our rishis is admirable, to say the least.
It is not the greatest scientific thought, however, since there is hardly 
anything scientific about it.  Science not only postulates a result but also 
shows an understandable method based, not on intuition but on one or more 
of the following techniques: experimentation, inference, and deduction.

jayasimha

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Re: Regarding Indian Behaviour . . .
Organization: bnr.ca
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:08:43 GMT

Good for you...however I will defend everyone's right to
freedom of speech even if I am dead against it. I hope you
can undertand that (living in the USA).
From: farid@dso011.sch.ge.com (Farid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Islam - a religion that breeds trouble
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:36:01 GMT
Organization: GE Power Generation

In article <1993Jan22.194722@IASTATE.EDU> aluru@IASTATE.EDU (Srinivas Aluru) writes:
>In article <C1A5r3.7tn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rafatm@sage.cc.purdue.edu
>(unknown) writes:
>> In article <lm0o7jINN9mn@kalahari.cs.utexas.edu>, anshu@cs.utexas.edu
>(Anshuman Goyal) writes:
>> > Muslims right now have problems with the followers
>> > of all major religions in the world. In India they
>> > fight with the hindus, In middle east and elsewhere
>> > with the jews, in Bosnia,and parts of USSR with
>> > the christians. Does it not suggest something wrong
>> > with them
>> 
>>   No it doesn`t. In India they are oppressed by Hindu`s. In Israel they are
>> unlawfuly deprived of their homeland. In Bosnia they are slaughtered because
>> they are of a different race. And in Russia untll recently, they were denied
>> the right to practive their own religion......
>
>  Recently, in Saudi Arabia, a hindu is punished by state for practicing 
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>his religion in the privacy of his own home. I wonder why....
>
>-aluru
>> 
>> 
>> cheers
>> Rafat Sadiq
>>  

        No matter whether it is done in Saudi Arabia or in South africa.
	A human being was denied his/her right to practice his/her own religion 
	and this act should be condemned. 

	However I would like to mention one point if some religious acts
	like praying or carrying out pooja is done with the intention to
	create problems then it is in its first place is not religious. 
			   

	I know at one point of time on the day of Id ( muslim festival)
	which is celeberated two times a year, some shiv-sena workers 
	wanted to perform 'POOJA' at the same or a near by site. They wanted
	to sing hymns and ring the bells ( basically making noise in the
	name of 'POOJA') to create disturbance in NAMAZ and hence initiate
	a conflict resulting into fight. The police commissioner stoped them
	from doing so and avoided one big blood-sheding event.


	My question is :

	Wheteher it is Namaz, Pooja or any form of religious act or deed,
	if the sole intention of such an act is creating problems or 
	causing conflicts, Can it be called as a religious practice  ?

	The key-element is justice .. The peace can not be achieved without
	establishing justice in the society.



	Yes ! I condemn Saudi Arabia for it's act of depriving an individual
	of his/her right to practice his/her religion for I being a muslim
	know that Islam has given the rights to non-muslim to practice their
	religion freely and Saudi govt. has done something against the spirit
	of Islam.


	Let the justice be established and peace be prevailed. 

	[Aadil Farid]



	Disclaimer : My views are my own and my employer is in noway 
		     responsible for them.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g7tn@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Mehendale Shashank)
Subject: For students of UAkron ,Ohio
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:47:45 GMT

	I am looking for E-mail address of Ms.Medha Abhyankar (PhD Chemical
Engg.).She joined the school in Fall92.
	Thank you.
	Shashank. Mehendale	

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani)
Subject: Re: Muslims - the victims or the perpetrators of violence ?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:17:23 GMT

In article <lm3dmeINNmvb@victoria.cs.utexas.edu>, anshu@cs.utexas.edu (Anshuman Goyal) writes:
|> Quite a few people on this newsgroup seem to be under the 
|> impression that Muslims in India are the victims of violence
|> and aggression - as if murderous hindu gangs roam around the
|> country killing and raping.
|>   Atleast in one city I have sufficient information to refute 
|> this. In Bhopal , as soon as Babri masjid fell down , muslim
|> rogues started rampaging th area. Lots of trains were stoped
|> Hindus were pulled out and killed . Lots of hindus were killed
|> maimed,burnt and raped in the very first days. Unofficial figures
|> put the toll at 200-250. All this happenned in a BJP govt state.
|> 
|>   Soon hindu committees were formed to protect the mohallas and
|> colonies from the onslaughts and police etc was pressed into action
|> by the govt. Most muslims died fighting the police. Clearly
|> our secular Congress Govt cannot tolerate muslim deaths. The BJP
|> govt was dismissed.
|> 
|>  Bhopal still has a night time curfew in outer areas also - let alone
|>  th inner city.
|> 
|>  Putting things in perspective
|>  Anshuman 
|> -- 
|> Anshuman Goyal
|> 

If you really *really* want to put things in perspective, just say that
human beings start riots (not religions) and they are equally likely to 
belong to either religious group. I am sure that there are parts of the 
country where Muslims are killing Hindus, just as there are parts of the 
country where Hindus are kliing Muslims. Instead of looking at such
parts of the country I think we should look at those parts which have
remained calm and learn what we can from them. Might I suggest that 
people read the article about Bhiwandi (a suburb of Bombay which has large
numbers of both Hindus as well as Muslims and has been known in the past 
for its frequent communal problems) which remained peaceful while the rest 
of the city burned - shows that it *is* possible to achieve Hindu-Muslim 
amity even in times like these.

Raghu
From: jayasim@cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Request/Question to Bapa Rao
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:17:20 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <C19s5D.7ot@ucunix.san.uc.edu> raj@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar) writes:
>Relative to the level of immorality assigned by you to the crime of 
>posting personal mails on sci, where do you place the *act* (I am 
>not calling it a crime!) of reporting to the employers of those with 
>whom one may have a difference of opinion. Yes, the difference may be
>extreme, but is the recourse to Complaints-to-Employers *ethical*?
>I don't think Virendra has ever been personally abusive towards anyone.
>
>It only shows that his opponents are at a total loss of ideas on how
>to counter his arguments.

(Since I was one of persons who took exception to the posting of personal
mail on the net, let me jump in)- I would assign the same level of immorality
to both these acts.  I do not think that ALL of Virendra's "opponents"
are bankrupt of ideas- I see some of them still carrying on bravely on the net
tackling subjects on an issue by issue basis rather than an ideological one-
but let me tell you that a number of the so called opponents are just plain
tired of all the noise.

jayasimha

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Re: A fervent appeal!!
Organization: bnr.ca
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:52:44 GMT

I would like to make a small contribution, please publish	
the Organizations which we should contact...regards, j.singh