HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ulysses@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Nebulous Enigma)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:06:32 GMT

In <neilg.703326626@sfu.ca> neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:

>karplus@cse.ucsc.edu (Kevin Karplus) writes:

>>    The State of California, by constitutional and legislative provision,
>>    et cetera...

> Wow! Now that sounds *truly* bizarre! Out of curiosity, when did the
>aforementioned "constitutional and legal provision" come into effect?

McCarthy era, just about 1950, I think.

>And does anyone know of any precedents set re: such an oath. (ex:
>someone refusing to sign, someone charged with breaking his or her
>word because s/he failed to "support, defend," blah blah the two
>constitutions? Just amazed and wondering...

I refer you to the one book written by the current president of the University 
of California, David P. Gardner, in the 60's when he was working here at UCSB.
It is called "The California Oath Controversy," and it is an even-handed and 
dispassionate analysis of the whole chain of events around the Oath.
I think like either 17 of 70 professors refused to sign and were fired.  There
was a big hullaballoo about it.

Here's the citation:
Gardner, David Pierpont. The California Oath Controversy. Berkeley: University
	of California Press, 1967.


--
-ulysses@mcl.ucsb.edu
undeclared underfunded undergrad 
Department of Limbo
now UC it, now you don't
From: joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:26:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: unixhub.3763
Reply-To: joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
Organization: SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center)

In article <1992Apr15.172502.18290@nas.nasa.gov>, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
|> Technically, each of the States of the United States joined the Union under
|> different circumstances.  Technically, we are not all simple states.
|> Virginia is still a Commonwealth,  Texas and California entered as
|> Republics (I think Texas still retains the right to leave the US).

I think a minor fracas known as the Civil War settled that question. If a
state constitution and the US constitution collide, the US wins. That's
what that skirmish was all about.

Of course, I would expect this Supreme Court to cheerfully uphold loyalty
oaths. Part of the general movement to forget the 60's and 70's ever
happened.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
--------
conversation, n. A fair for the display of the minor mental commodities,
each exhibitor being too intent upon the arrangement of his own wares
to observe those of his neighbor.
                                  Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
From: jstan@krakatoa.jsc.nasa.gov (John Stansbury [Hernandz] exp. 12/31/92)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Hey Larry
Date: 14 Apr 1992 18:49:13 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: jstan@krakatoa


Is this the same Larry Gainor at GSLIS at UT?  Still living on Norwalk?  If its not "you," sorry, but thanks for the newsgroup.

John Stansbury

--usual disclaimers--
From: eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:25:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: nas.1992Apr15.172502.18290
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <neilg.703326626@sfu.ca> neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:
> Wow! Now that sounds *truly* bizarre!
Rest removed for clarity.

Technically, each of the States of the United States joined the Union under
different circumstances.  Technically, we are not all simple states.
Virginia is still a Commonwealth,  Texas and California entered as
Republics (I think Texas still retains the right to leave the US).
One can check US history books or probably ask soc.culture.usa or
soc.history (ignoring the noise in those groups).

If you think that is bad, you should see the form for attending an
unclassified DoD sponsered conference.

Searching for an extra copy of the out of print:
	Pattern Recognition by M. Bongard
[Yes, I have ordered this thru Powell's in Portland.....]

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Ames Library Committee
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
This is the Usenet: do you expect anything other than gross generalizations?
Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski)
Subject: e-mail address for Nat. Lib. of Canada
Summary: Looking for e-mail address
Keywords: Canada National Library
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:59:47 GMT

I am looking for the e-mail or Internet address for the National
Library of Canada.  Specifically, I am trying to get info about certain
gov docs that are held in the Archives and at the Nat Lib.  Can someone
please post or mail me the address?

-- 
Chris Rutkowski - umrutko0@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Royal Astronomical Society of Canada
University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Libraries and Digital Data
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:48:28 GMT


I would be interested in hearing from libraries who are doing interesting
things with digital data. Our special interest is in digital spatial data
and geographic information systems. The Association of Research Libraries
is starting, in cooperation with ESRI the creator of ARC/INFO GIS software,
a GIS Literacy project.
-- 
Duane F. Marble
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
    <32936@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <neilg.703326626@sfu.ca>
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:10:48 GMT
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 368

Jessica Mitford (author of _The American Way of Death_) was embroiled in
a loyalty-oath hassle at some state university a number of years ago
when she was appointed visiting lecturer for a year.  She wrote an
article about the affair, which can be found in her collection
_Poison Penmanship_.
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Manager, SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: tony@library.anu.edu.au (Tony Barry)
Subject: Re: Congrats Larry and a question...
Organization: Australian National University Library
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 03:42:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.232129.13866@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed) writes:

>       I am off to Oz in about a month, and am trying to 
>       find email addresses for Aussie systems librarians, especially:

email to syslibs@library.adelaide.edu.au and you will reach about 40 system
librarians in Australia.


>       
>       -- people who might know about AARN developements,
>          especially plans for collaboration among libraries

Try  me  [ ;-)] or Geoff.Huston@arrnet.edu.au
       
>       -- people who are systems librarians at Unilinc (formerly CLANN)
>          sites.

try clann@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au
 
>       -- people who can tell me about ILANET and how to get there from here,
>          (if meaningful & possible).

For ilanet try ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au. 

Regards from down under

tony barry> 
>
From: karplus@cse.ucsc.edu (Kevin Karplus)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:06:37 GMT
Reply-To: karplus@ce.ucsc.edu (Kevin Karplus)

I don' thave the exact wording of the loyalty oath that the University
of California requires of all employees, but the Handbook for Faculty
Members says

    The State of California, by constitutional and legislative provision,
    requires that all citizens receiving salaries from the State, before
    entering upon the duties of their employment, subscribe to an oath to
    support, defend, and bear true faith and allegiance to the
    Constitutions of the United States and of California.

I know that TAs and RAs are required to sign this oath also, even
though the University insists that they are not employees and so can't
be represented by their union as a collective bargaining unit.

I don't know whether non-citizens are required to sign---I'll have to
ask some of the foreign grad students if they were asked to sign.

Kevin Karplus
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Loyalty Oaths
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 01:40:42 GMT

In article <3763@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
writes:
>I think a minor fracas known as the Civil War settled that question. If a
>state constitution and the US constitution collide, the US wins. That's
>what that skirmish was all about.

I like the way you pose this.  In return I offer this quote:

From a long view of the history of mankind - seen from, say, ten thousand
years from now, there can be little doubt that the most significant event
of the 19th century will be judged as Maxwell's discovery of the laws of
elctrodynamics.  The American Civil War will pale into provincial
insignificance in comparison with this important scientific event of the
same decade.

R. P. Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol. II, Addison-Wesley, 1964, page 1-11.

>Of course, I would expect this Supreme Court to cheerfully uphold loyalty
>oaths. Part of the general movement to forget the 60's and 70's ever
>happened.
>
>*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
>Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ so you should like that.
>joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
>Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
>Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.

Wow what a disclaimer!

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Ames Library Committee
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
This is the Usenet: do you expect anything other than gross generalizations?
Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: ccoprmd@prism.gatech.EDU (Matthew DeLuca)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Re: Congrats Larry and a question...
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:04:39 GMT
Organization: The Dorsai Grey Captains

In article <1992Apr13.232129.13866@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed) writes:
>
>   Hearty congrats to Larry Gainor on getting this group off the ground!!

>   I hate to post a "looking for" as a first contribution, but:

>      I am off to Oz in about a month, and am trying to 
>      find email addresses for Aussie systems librarians, especially:

Oh...and I thought this newsgroup was about why one should or should not 
talk in libraries... :-)

-- 
Matthew DeLuca                      "Being next to Dorsai is a slow form of
Georgia Institute of Technology      the 'dissolve' command..."
Office of Information Technology    
Internet: ccoprmd@prism.gatech.edu                  - Banzai, Merc V
From: ratzan@rwja.umdnj.edu (Lee Ratzan)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: lethal library information-fatal retraction
Keywords: misuse retraction library
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:23:17 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

I submit for your review an information intrigue entitled
"Fatal Retraction" which appears in the current issue of
the Wilson Library Bulletin (March 1992, vol 66, no 7, p 30).
It is available at most public and university libraries.

Your comments are welcome!


Thank you,


Lee Ratzan
From: ricko@cs.ucsd.edu (Rick Ord)
Newsgroups: cse.general,sdnet.general
Subject: Where to get a good Nordic Track
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:00:17 GMT
Followup-To: cse.general
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

My wife's B-day is coming up and she wants a Nordic Track for her B-day
present.

Does anyone have suggestions on what brand and where to get one of these
beasts?

Thanks,
  Rick (rord@ucsd.edu)
From: hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Visit to San Diego
Date: 6 Apr 1992 12:04:47 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


If SDNET isn't San Diego, please delete this message sorry :-))

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I am looking for somewhere romantic, something fun todo, "cheap" hehhe
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I have been to La Jolla Cove.. Really nice.. If you know any other place,
please let me know :-)

Thank you

hho@usc.edu

Newsgroups: sdnet.general,sdnet.forsale,ucsd.housing,misc.forsale,fps.forsale,misc.consumers
From: joel@fps.com (Joel Broude)
Subject: Condo for rent in San Diego
Organization: Cray Research Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:06:27 GMT

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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Newsgroups: sdnet.jobs,misc.jobs.contract
Subject: C/UNIX/XENIX/Database/SerialComm
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:00:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr09.030011.8717
Reply-To: brian@coconut.com
Distribution: ca
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA



Coconut Computing is looking for a programmer with experience in
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7946 Ivanhoe Ave, Suite 303
La Jolla, CA 92037

Email "brian@coconut.com" or "info@coconut.com"
From: kube@odin (Paul Kube)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: Bruce Buchanan, Frontiers of Computing Lecture, April 16
Date: 9 Apr 1992 13:31:36 -0700
Organization: UCSDgw
NNTP-Posting-Host: network.ucsd.edu


 Frontiers in Computing Lecture Series Presents

 Speaker:  Dr. Bruce Buchanan

 Title:  ``Computers in Medical Decision Making:  From Research to Practice''

 Date: Thursday, April 16. 1992
 Place: Garren Auditorium, Basic Science Building, UCSD
 Time: 4:00-5:00 p.m.


 Biography:

Dr. Buchanan is Professor of Computer Science, Philosophy, and Medicine
at the University of Pittsburgh.  

While Research Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University,
Dr. Buchanan was a principal contributor to Heuristic DENDRAL and
MYCIN, the first expert systems in organic chemistry and medicine.
His current interests include biomedical applications of artificial
intelligence, automated interpretation of 3-dimensional protein
structure, and intelligent computer-aided instruction.

Dr. Buchanan is a recipient of a National Institutes of Health Career
Development Award, and is a Fellow in the American College of Medical
Informatics.


 (The Frontiers of Computing lecture series is cosponsored by the UCSD
 Academic Senate, and the San Diego Supercomputer Center.  For further
 information, contact Prof. Paul Kube, 534-4973.)
From: hartung@crl (Jeff Hartung)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: psychology department colloquium announcement
Date: 14 Apr 1992 22:00:32 -0700
Organization: UCSDgw
Reply-To: hartung@crl.ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: network.ucsd.edu

!-----------------------------------------------!
!                                               !
!            University of California           !
!                    San Diego                  !
!                                               !
!            Department of Psychology           !
!                                               !
!                  COLLOQUIUM                   !
!                                               !
!  !-----------------------------------------!  !
!  !                                         !  !
!  !            Dr. Richard Ivry             !  !
!  !               UC Berkeley               !  !
!  !                                         !  !
!  !         Accessible Computations:        !  !
!  !   Examples from Perception and Action   !  !
!  !-----------------------------------------!  !
!                                               !
!         Thursday, April 16, at 4:15 PM        !
!               McGill Hall 1110                !
!                                               !
!             Social hour to follow             !
!                                               !
!                                               !
!-----------------------------------------------!


For more information you can contact one of the UCSD
Psychology Department colloquium representatives:

jhartung@ucsd.edu       Jeff Hartung
llou@ucsd.edu           Lianggang Lou
mbell@ucsd.edu          Matthew Bell
From: aranovch@bend (Raul Aranovich)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: April 20
Date: 7 Apr 1992 21:46:27 -0700
Organization: UCSDgw
NNTP-Posting-Host: network.ucsd.edu


         The Linguistics Department Colloquium Series 
                  


                     SUZANNE FLEISCHMAN
                         UC Berkeley

             Discourse as Space/Discourse as Time: 
 On the Cognitive Underpinnings of Spoken and Written Discourse

Most planned discourses of any length (e.g. speeches, lectures,
extended narratives, books, articles, media broadcasts) contain
within them cross-references to other parts of the discourse--
metalinguistic "traffic signals" whose function is to orient
addressees concerning the macro-structure of the text. Books and
articles, for example, commonly contain statements of the type
"as is/will be shown in chapter 6..." (written, say, in chapter
3) or "see above/below, section 4," while lecturers make
statements of the type "I'll come back to this point later," "as
we'll see in just a moment." These anaphoric and cataphoric
indexing devices typically involve SPATIAL or TEMPORAL
expressions, notably tenses and deictic adverbs.

In this talk I argue, first of all, that the use of spatial and
temporal expressions to talk about the architecture of texts is
not arbitrary; to the contrary, it is the manifestation, in
language, of a basic cognitive difference between two ways of
conceptualizing discourse: as SPACE or as TIME. Space and time
provide two powerful macro-metaphors for translating our
conceptualizations of discourse into the metalanguage we use to
talk about the texts we produce. Taking the space/time metaphor
further, I then explore the question of why the SPATIAL metaphor
appears to be exclusive to WRITTEN discourse, while the TEMPORAL
metaphor correlates first and foremost with a discourse that is
SPOKEN. I conclude by looking at the latter question in
diachronic perspective, i.e., by seeing whether the move within a
culture from orality to literacy, and from a textuality that is
fundamentally oral to one increasingly influenced by the
protocols of writing, is marked by a corresponding shift in
discourse metalanguage from 'temporal' to 'spatial'. The data for
this section of the inquiry will be drawn from the history of
French.


                 Monday April 20, 4:00pm 
          McGill Hall (formerly P&L) 2148 (TV Studio)

                 (Refreshments will be provided)
From: bateman@cogsci (Marilee Bateman)
Newsgroups: sdnet.talks
Subject: THURSDAY SEMINAR RUMELHART
Date: 14 Apr 1992 08:11:19 -0700
Organization: UCSDgw
NNTP-Posting-Host: network.ucsd.edu

The Institute for Neural Computation is sponsoring the 
H. Paul Rockwood Memorial Lectureship:

"Synthesizing and Recognizing Cursive Handwriting:
             A Connectionist Approach"

                  DAVID RUMELHART
                Stanford University


Thursday, April 16, 1992
5:30 pm

Liebow Auditorium
2100 Basic Sciences Building
School of Medicine
From: sbernste@weber.ucsd.edu (Steven Bernstein)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Electronic Parts, Radio For Sale
Date: 8 Apr 1992 22:41:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

I still have a few more things left to purge from my garage:

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Box of misc. IBM PC stuff: including a couple of modems, video card,
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(Note: I need to get rid of allof this stuff so I won't break up the
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Hewlett-Packard 41C rom sets: finance/real estate rom and
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Call:
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From: ee10sag@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Jason Corley)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Nintendo & games
Keywords: nintendo, video games
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:41:40 GMT
Distribution: sdnet

The Nintendo includes:

	Two regular controllers
	"NES Advantage" joystick
	Gauntlet
	Captain Comic
	Track & Field
	Major League Baseball
	Two Nintendo cheat books
	A cartidge/base unit cleaning kit

I am asking $90

Please resond to:
ee10sag@sdcc15.ucsd.edu
From: am132wat@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Jennifer Ho)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Stacker Hardware (Doubles your HD)
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:32:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


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                     Dan
From: newby@crl.ucsd.edu (Chad Newby)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: bicycle for sale
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:26:50 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: University of California, San Diego


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.
E-mail me at newby@crl.ucsd.edu
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