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From: ad838@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael Rolfes)
Subject: NAIA
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:19:54 GMT


In the NAIA District 22 Tournament, Mount St. Joseph beat Cedarville
College in four games before a standing room only match at Mount
St. Joseph on Saturday....

They will face (I believe) Northwood Inst. on Saturday in Michigan for
the Bi-District title and the winner will advance to the national 
tournament in San Diego....



Any officials working the NAIA Tourney?  I line judge the semi-final match
on Friday night...

Michael P. Rolfes,   usr2879a@tso.uc.edu; Cincinnati, OH   USA
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From: tomoo@hpmctt.mcm.hp.com (Tomoo Taguchi)
Subject: Team Names
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:41:01 GMT

Could someone repost the summary of team names that was posted a few
weeks ago.  I'm throwing a team together for a tounament TOMORROW would
like to use one of them.

Thanks,
Tomoo
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From: robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar)
Subject: Re: First experience of no limit 5th set
Reply-To: robp@landru.network.com
Organization: Network Systems Corporation 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:17:39 GMT

In the NCAA Div. III Central regionals, the U. of St. Thomas
(Minnesota) won over UW-Platteville in five sets.  The fifth
set was 23-21 (!)

I wonder which team was in the position of "sideout or die" more
often.  Anyone actually see the match?

Later,

Rob
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From: pjs1@cec2.wustl.edu (Philip John Schielke)
Subject: Re: First experience of no limit 5th set
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:09:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.181739.10966@ns.network.com> robp@landru.network.com writes:
>In the NCAA Div. III Central regionals, the U. of St. Thomas
>(Minnesota) won over UW-Platteville in five sets.  The fifth
>set was 23-21 (!)
>
>I wonder which team was in the position of "sideout or die" more
>often.  Anyone actually see the match?
>
>Later,
>
>Rob

I saw the match, and it was pretty intense. UW-Platteville should have taken
it.  They were up by as many as 3 "mini-breaks" (I hate that term) i.e.
points scored on their own serve.  When it finally got above 15 I can remember
several times when all UW had to do was side out to get the match, and they
wussed out.  They got a number of free balls, and good sets, and wound up
dinking, when they could have (should have) swung away.  It was a great win
for St. Thomas.

-Phil

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From: pjs1@cec1.wustl.edu (Philip John Schielke)
Subject: Div III semifinals
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:02:59 GMT

Last night at Washington University in St. Louis, NCAA Div. III Women's
Volleyball semi-finals

UC-San Diego d SUNY-Stony Brook 3 games to 2
I dont remember the scores, but UCSD took the first two games, then
SUNY took the next two, with UCSD taking the rally game.

Washington University d Calvin College 3 games to 1
don't remember these scores either, Calvin won game three behind strong
serving.

Finals are tonight at 8pm.  WU meets UCSD for the third straight season.

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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: First experience of no limit 5th set
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:14:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.020902.9686@wuecl.wustl.edu> pjs1@cec2.wustl.edu (Philip John Schielke) writes:
] In article <1992Nov16.181739.10966@ns.network.com> robp@landru.network.com writes:
] points scored on their own serve.  When it finally got above 15 I can remember
] several times when all UW had to do was side out to get the match, and they
] 
] -Phil

Huh? Let's see. If you're playing rally scoring, and all you need is a side
out to win, that means you are up by a point while the other team is serving.
Now, if they're serving, they got the previous point. But if they got the
previous point, then you were up by two before that point. So why are you
still playing?

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From: ress@bnr.ca (David Ress P040)
Subject: Re: taxes
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:31:36 GMT

In article <3vfqxzf@SantaFe.edu>, meyer@sfi.santafe.edu (Thomas P. Meyer) writes:
|> . . .  or simply that some of
|> us have a difficult time expressing opposing viewpoints
|> in a non-adversarial manner, and the antagonism I perceive
|> is imagined.
.
.
|>    Forgive me if this posting sounds inimicable.  I have a
|> difficult time expressing myself civilly when addressing
|> people ignorant of what they speak.
|> 

Yeh, I see what you mean.

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From: conrad@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Conrad Yoder)
Subject: Bum Shoulder
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:54:27 GMT

I posted this a while ago but people I've talked to said they didn't see it,
so I'll give it another shot.

I seem to be having some problems with my hitting shoulder - most likely my
rotator cuff.  If I let up on playing for a while, it gets less sore, but
doesn't heal completely.  What am I doing wrong?  Bad form?  Not enough
conditioning?  Is there an easy (or not so easy) way to get it back to normal?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

   _________________________________________________________________________
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 /  Conrad G. T. Yoder               *****            conrad@cs.stanford.edu \
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My views represent the Computer Science Department and Stanford University as a
whole, completely and in their entirety.  Stanford University is in all ways -
both written and implied - morally and legally responsible for all opinions
expressed above.
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From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: Re: overlapping: still confused!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:38:55 GMT

Upon reading the FAQ (#24) and some other posts, it looks like
the conclusion is that the left player must be closer to the left
sideline than the middle player but the middle player need not be
closer to the right sideline than the left player.  And of course
extend this to other positions.
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From: A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu (Kevin Kettner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: overlapping: still confused!
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:48:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxx590.5so
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA


  Having read most of the discussion on overlap that has been on
the net the last few day, have a quick question.  Our team uses
a three player serve receive and we were playing around with
options because of a bad rotation.  Does anyone see anything
wrong with overlap with this setup.  If the setter is in the
back left position and the three front row players are in their
intended hitting positions; is it alright to move the middle
hitter back and to the left to receive serve.

           STARTING POSITIONS
     ============net===============
       lf         mf           rf


         lb                  rb
      (Setter)
                  mb



           FOR SERVE RECEIVE
     ============net===============
       lf                      rf
                 lb (Setter)

          mf              rb

                   mb

  Are we right in thinking that as long as the left back is
not closer to the net than the left front player and that the
left back (our setter) player is not right of the middle back
player we are ok?  Does anyone see anything wrong with this, is
there something else we need to watch out for?

  Thanks for your comments in advance.
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From: walsh@sparty.zko.dec.com (Chris Walsh)
Subject: Re: overlapping: still confused!
Reply-To: walsh@sparty.zko.dec.com (Chris Walsh)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:22:56 GMT

A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu (Kevin Kettner) asks if the following serve recieve lineup is legal:

>           FOR SERVE RECEIVE
>     ============net===============
>       lf                      rf
>                 lb (Setter)
>
>          mf              rb
>
>                   mb

The answer is, you have analyzed it properly.  This serve receive is legal.  You can have back
row players in front of front row players.  In particular, lb and mf can be in any position at all
relative to each other.  Just make sure lb is to the left of mb, and lf is to the left of mf.

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From: shugrue@spatial (Leon Shugrue)
Subject: Chicago area volleystores
Organization: ANL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:35:09 GMT

Can someone please email or post the locations of 
any volleyball specialty stores ( or sporting goods
stores that actually recognize volleyball as a major
sport) in the Chicago area, especially the southwest 
'burbs? Can't seem to find any in the book.
Thanks

Leon Shugrue
shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov
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Subject: Re: what exactly is overlapping...
From: fehlau@pa881a.inland.com
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:26:10 CDT
Organization: Inland Steel Company, East Chicago, IN
Nntp-Posting-User: levin

In article <1992Nov12.165853.14090@ns.network.com>, robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar) writes:
> In article K6J@news.cso.uiuc.edu, liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>>The overlap rules are based on parts of the body that are in contact
>>with the floor.
>>
> A) For 4-3 or 5-6 overlaps (lf-cf, lb-cb) there must be floor contact by the
> left player that is to the left of the leftmost floor contact of the center player.
> in other words, the left player must have something closer to the sideline
> than the center player.  what is closer to the right sideline is immaterial.
> 
> example.
> 
> (feet shown; left margin is left sideline; LpLF is left player, left foot; CpLF is
> center player, left foot; LpRF is left player, right foot; CpRF is center player,
> right foot)
> 
> 
> LpLF            LpRF
>     CpLF    CpRF
> 
> 
> i.e. this is a straddle.  This is legal.  The left player has something on the
> floor closer to the left sideline than the center player.
> 
> 
> B)  For 2-3 or 1-6 overlaps (rf-cf, rb-cb) the sideline of importance is the
> right sideline.  Just substitute the characters 'right' for 'left' in A) above.
> 
> C)  For any front-back overlaps (4-5, 3-6, 2-1) the line of importance is
> the center line (not the back line)  So, the front player must have something
> on the floor closer to the center line (net) than the back player.  The back
> line is of no importance.  Using the example above,
> --------------net---------------
> 
> FpLF
>     
>    BpLF
> 
>    BpRF                 this is legal (again,a straddle)
> 
> FpRF
> 
> 
> 
> (Fp - front player; Bp - back player)
> 
> 
> 
> That's it.
> 
> Rob
> 
> USA National Referee
> 
> 
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The rule as stated from the 1992 USVBA rulebook:

ARTICLE 8 (page 34):
	At the time the ball is contacted for the serve, the placement of players
must conform to the service order recorded on the scoresheet as follows (the
server is exempt from this requirement):
	a. In the front or back row, the center player may not be as near the right
sideline as the right player nor as near the left sideline as the left player. 
No back row player may be as near the net as the corresponding front row
player.  *AFTER* the ball is contacted for the serve, players may move from
their respective positions.

COMMENTARY ON RULE 7 (page 36):
	3) Position of players - The position of players is judged according to the
	   position of their feet in contact with the floor (ground) at the time
	   the ball is contacted for service.

												Volleyball forever,
												ERIC

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From: tomz@ecs.comm.mot.com (Tom Ziomek)
Subject: Re: Chicago area volleystores
Organization: control_centers
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:04:07 GMT

In article <72211170921664@spatial> shugrue@spatial (Leon Shugrue) writes:
>Can someone please email or post the locations of 
>any volleyball specialty stores ( or sporting goods
>stores that actually recognize volleyball as a major
>sport) in the Chicago area, especially the southwest 
>'burbs? Can't seem to find any in the book.
>Thanks
>
>Leon Shugrue
>shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov
>

[Sorry for posting; reply mail didn't work.]

Inner Coast Sports at Schaumburg and Plum Grove roads in Schaumburg
Information should have the number.  98% volleyball stuff.

There's at least two VB stores in the yuppie-puppie part of Chicago
(North Side/Lincoln Park areas, somewhere).

Check Windy City Sports (free, found at most "real" sports/camping/
outdoors stores in the metropolitan area) for ads.

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From: wang@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Wang)
Subject: Re: First experience of no limit 5th set
Reply-To: wang@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:44:52 GMT

> pjs1@cec2.wustl.edu (Philip John Schielke) writes:
>] When it finally got above 15 I can remember several times when all UW
>] had to do was side out to get the match ...

gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes:
>Huh? Let's see. If you're playing rally scoring, and all you need is a side
>out to win, that means you are up by a point while the other team is serving.
>Now, if they're serving, they got the previous point. But if they got the
>previous point, then you were up by two before that point. So why are you
>still playing?

Obviously a slip of the fingers.  I'm sure Phip meant that UW just had
to "hold serve" to win the match.  That can be tough, especially when
both teams' side-out offenses are working well.

Still haven't heard anybody top Illinois-Wheaton's 30-28 5th game.  How
about the greatest comeback/worst choke you've seen in rally-scoring?
Dr. Hebert, head coach of the Illinois women's varsity vb team, mentions
seeing a men's semifinal match at this year's World University Games
where a team came back from 3-13 in the 5th to win.  Yow, that's AT
LEAST an 11-1 run.

Eric Wang
wang@cs.uiuc.edu

Organization: Senior, IM - Graphic Communications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:29:29 -0500 
From: "Frank M. Desiderio" <fd0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: NY tourneys

I was hoping someone out there would know of any "Christmastime"
tournaments or short, month-long Holiday leagues that may or may not be
happening in the Long Island area,from mid-December to mid-January. 

I'm a player (although we don't have a varsity team) at Carnegie Mellon
U. in Pittsburgh, and am looking for some competitive play over winter
break.

And Van, I heard you Bears slipped the officials a few bills to pull out
the win over the Tartans. Is this true?

-frank
From: soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Chicago area volleystores
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:53:22 GMT
Organization: What do you mean *I* can't do that????
In-reply-to: tomz@ecs.comm.mot.com's message of 23 Nov 92 03:04:07 GMT

along the same vein, could some post a listing, if there is one, for the
volleyball stores in the Boston area?? thanks in advance.

soph
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (3)
Subject: Re: Bum Shoulder
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:19:45 GMT

conrad@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Conrad Yoder) writes:

>I posted this a while ago but people I've talked to said they didn't see it,
>so I'll give it another shot.

>I seem to be having some problems with my hitting shoulder - most likely my
>rotator cuff.  If I let up on playing for a while, it gets less sore, but
>doesn't heal completely.  What am I doing wrong?  Bad form?  Not enough
>conditioning?  Is there an easy (or not so easy) way to get it back to normal?

>Any suggestions would be appreciated.

post the suggestions please, as i (and many others i'm sure) have the same
problem.  thanks.

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From: pjs1@cec2.wustl.edu (Philip John Schielke)
Subject: Re: First experience of no limit 5th set
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:24:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.221409.11719@wuecl.wustl.edu> gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes:
>
>Huh? Let's see. If you're playing rally scoring, and all you need is a side
>out to win, that means you are up by a point while the other team is serving.
>Now, if they're serving, they got the previous point. But if they got the
>previous point, then you were up by two before that point. So why are you
>still playing?
>
Oops.  What I meant to say, is that St. Thomas had to side out or else UW
would win.  My brain must have been turned off, because it is impossible
to win a rally game on sideout over 15 points.  Anyway, UW had chances to win
it and they wussed out.

-Phil
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From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: overlapping: still confused!
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:15:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxruuL.M1C
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm confused because I've been given two different answers.
Let's look at the situation where the left front (L) and
middle front (M) want to change positions so that L can hit middle
and M can hit strong-side.  So before the ball is served,

Albert Liu says:

Part of L's body must be left of M and part of M's body must
be right of L.

Glenn Corwin says:

L must be closer to the left sideline than M.  That's all!

Let's look at the footwork; each L is a foot of the left player
and each M is a foot of the middle player.

	L   L			L   L
	 M M			 M   M
Albert says "bad"	Albert says "good"
Glenn says "good"	Glenn says "good"

Glenn gives these rules:

Left players must be closer to the left sideline than their corresponding
middle players. (LF-MF and LB-MB)

Right players must be closer to the right sideline than their corresponding
middle players. (RF-MF and RB-MB)

Front-row players must be closer to the centerline than their corresponding
back-row players. (LF-LB, MF-MB and RF-RB)

So what's the truth?  Can someone explain this with a rulebook?

- Mike


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From: tsen+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Chung Kang Tsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Brazil wins "World Super Four".
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:35:08 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


The "World Super Four" tournament is played in Japan,  with the 3
olimpic medalists and Japan. Brasil beat USA 3 X 0 (15x5, 15x8, 15x9)
and played Japan (winner over Holland). The final was Brasil over
Japan 3 X 0 (15x0!!!!, 15x6, 15x5).

--Tsen
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From: cmoore@rose.hp.com (Chris Moore)
Subject: Re: spiking serves
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:20:43 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

White (pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu) wrote:
: In article <pett.721593226@cgl.ucsf.edu> pett@socrates.ucsf.edu (Eric Pettersen) writes:
: >
: >   Simple question:  is it legal to spike the serve from behind the 10' line?
: >
: >
: >				Eric Pettersen
: >				UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
: >				pett@cgl.ucsf.edu
: 
: Not according to the rules.  The ball cannot be contacted until it breaks
: the horizontal plane of the net.
: Brian

In the copy of the USVBA rules I have, it says the following under "Commentary
on Rule 8 -- Playing The Ball"

"No player in the attack zone may block or attack a served ball while the ball
is above the height of the net.  Such contact causes the ball to become dead
immediately and a point awarded to the serving team."

From this I'd say that yes, you can spike a serve from behind the 10' line,
as you are not a "player in the attack zone."

Chris Moore

From: taj@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Tom Jack)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:23:54 GMT
Subject: San Jose Adult Volleyball Camps
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
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Weekend Adult Volleyball Camps in San Jose, CA.

            February   6-7, 1993
            February 27-28, 1993

Contact ASF for Information (510/975-0952).


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