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From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Rehearsal Space?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:28:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1992Sep3.204911.15778@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>Ah, as the school year starts, I go in search of rehearsal space for
>our band.  We're loud.  I'm wondering if anyone's got any success
>stories on what they've done in a college area to get rehearsal space.
>Any ideas are welcome.
>
>scott

Ask around at the provost or dean's offices at your campus.  Here at
UCSD at least two of the 'colleges' (Revelle, my alma mater, and Muir)
let bands play in empty lecture halls late at night.  We played *very*
loud most times we practised on campus.  The schedule fills up in about
an hour every Monday AM though.

Look for outdoor electrical plugs away from the beaten path.  If your
any good (good and loud, as opposed to 'bad' and loud...), most students
living on campus won't complain.  We used to do this at public parks here
in San Diego, and people actually came by, drank beer (or whatever), and
on rare occasions, even *clapped* at the end of songs.  Imagine that?
Of course, that turned practise into showtime, but we had a hell of a
lot of fun.  We did this behind elementary schools (using outdoor plugs)
all over town late at night.  "Guerilla" jams.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and building a garage studio...no more of that public place crap for me!)
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: SynthAxe Drumitar?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 07:47:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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In a previous article, smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) says:

>No more callouses and blisters or aching wrists and legs, less sweat, the
>ability to go wireless and run around the place...

  The first points, perhaps, but the part about the wireless, I somehow
doubt. Roy's datastream is a bit more complicated than a regular ol' analog
waveform coming out of a microphone or a guitar, even if the use none of 
the original SynthAxe electronics. I'm even further convinced by the fact
that the Flecktones do a number where all the members *except* Roy dash
out into the audience (that was fun... I had Bela, Vic and Howard each
take a turn about 4 feet from my face). Roy stayed firmly tethered to his
rack by a formidable-looking cable.

  Jeff

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From: defrain@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Defrain)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:13:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug31.172300.11237@socrates.umd.edu> jimbo@socrates.umd.edu (Jim Bogard) writes:
>Well, the band is finally rolling... after a few preliminary jobs, we
>have 5 in the month of Sept and expect more.  What I would like to hear from
>you are 'gig tips'...  Those little things you have picked up over the 
>years that make everything go smoothly and contribute to a better show.
>A few of mine:
>
>1.  Looking to the back of the place (I'm told) gives people the impression
>    you are looking directly at them. (think that one came from here, actually)

Well,  actually,  this is a good general idea but not a rule.  I can tell
when a band is playing to the back wall -- right over the audience.  To
put yourself in the audience one contacts the _individuals_ in the audience.
Eye contact is most effective -- remembering that some of the audience might
not like being singled out.  Find out right away who your "friends" are going
to be and through them you can contact the audience.

Paul D.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: ola@vipunen.hut.fi (Ola Rinta-Koski)
Subject: Adding headphone amp to mixer
Organization: BREWTeX '92 -- International Boy Stout Organization
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:28:57

  I have a 6-in, 2-out keyboard mixer (Korg KMX-62) which does not
have a headphone jack. I would like to sometimes use it with just
headphones and sometimes with an amplifier and speakers. What cheap
solutions exist to add headphone capability to this setup? Any are
welcome.

--
      Ola Rinta-Koski   OK 20 B 22  02150 Espoo  Finland   +358-0-468 3174
'Ginger?' 'Certainly. That's a common one, ginger is. What they do, they take a
piece of raw ginger about the size of a walnut, and about five minutes before
the off they slip it into the dog.' 'You mean in his mouth? He eats it?' 'No.'
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky)
Subject: song info wanted
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:01:43 GMT

Hi folks!  I need a little bit of help. There's a song that's been
running through my mind for the past few days.  I don't know the title
or artist, but i can give you a few lines from the chorus.  If anyone
can send me the title, artist, or lyrics, I would greatly appreciate
it.

The few words that I know:

"<verse>
Let me be the one you run to...

CHORUS
I'm the one who wants to be with you.
Deep inside I hope you feel it too.
Waiting on a line..........."


I know this isn't much to go on, but I'm hoping someone will recognize
this.  Thanks in advance!!

							-Amy-
							 :)
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Amy M. Wisotsky -- amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu 
"Once upon a time, in your wildest dreams...." 
				-Moody Blues   
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Organization: NCAR, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:28:33 GMT

> = jimbo@socrates.umd.edu (Jim Bogard) writes:
>Well, the band is finally rolling... after a few preliminary jobs, we
>have 5 in the month of Sept and expect more.  What I would like to hear from
>you are 'gig tips'...  Those little things you have picked up over the 
>years that make everything go smoothly and contribute to a better show.
>A few of mine:

This should be useful.  I'm playing with 3 other guys (mostly obscure R&B 
covers) who are pretty good musicians, but not so good "showmen".  
When I make modest suggestions/requests like:
o look at the audience (most of the time)
o talk to the audience (at least a little)
o keep the flow by going right into the next song (most of the time)
I often get negative responses like "we don't need arbitrary rules" or 
"you're being anal retentive".  If nothing else, I could present a list
written by other working musicians so I can prove these suggestions are
not just some hangup I've got.

-Brian
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: defrain@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Defrain)
Subject: Keys
Summary: KEYBOARD PLAYER NEEDED for working R-N-R band
Keywords: keyboards, keyboards, keyboards, jam, rock-n-roll, etc...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: in
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:06:16 GMT

If you play keyboards and would like to play in an up and comming
R-n-R band with a lot of talent and diversity and commitment then
respond to this posting.  The band is centralized in the Lafayette area.

New and old R-n-R covers and originals.  The kind of music you wish more
bands would perform but don't (and/or can't).

Paul
From: crowe@steamers.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Crowe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Band seeks drummer
Date: 3 Sep 1992 22:07:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: ba
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Band Seeks Drummer
------------------
The band I'm in has lost it's drummer, so we're out looking for a
new one.  We're based in Santa Cruz and Los Gatos, CA, so we're
looking for someone who lives within driving distance.  Here's
the lowdown:

MUSIC:  REM, U2, Jesus Jones, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads,
        and various old rockers like Hendrix, Doors, Stones, etc.
        Some originals, but not enough to fill sets.

ATTITUDE:   We do this as a hobby, for fun.  We all have careers, 
        and music doesn't pay our bills.  We want to sound as good
        as possible.  The main focus is to enjoy making music.

LEVEL:  We've all played in various bands for several years, so I
        guess I'd classify us as semi-professional.

GOALS:  We've gigged occasionally with this band before our drummer
        had to leave.  We'd like to do more of it, maybe once a
        month or so.  We also like to record.

FORMAT: Two guitars, one bass, looking for a drummer.  We might be
        adding keyboards as well.

If you're interested, email me at:

    Robert.Crowe@Eng.Sun.COM
From: tottori@west.darkside.com (Tottori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: few q's
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:13:49 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM


my band is interested in purchasing a fairly large speaker
to run the vocals through. i stopped by starving musician
on El Camino today and my drummer and i saw this Sunn
speaker. well, i'm not familiar with Sunn products or
how reliable they are. Anyone out there use any? if so, 
what do you think of it? we were looking for something with
about 4-6 10" or 12" speakers.

also..
anyone here familiar with the sunnyvale music club?

thanks, y'all. keep playing

-Tottori "chick guitarist" Shelle
From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: how much to charge and another question
Date: 1 Sep 1992 12:55:17 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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In article <9208312323.AA22030@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Wheeler, 
z3kpw@TTACS1.TTU.EDU writes:
>Up 'till now I've been doing it all for free but I'm getting
>asked to do quite a bunch of stuff now and it'd help a lot for gas and
all
>if I was getting a little monetary compensation.
>So I'm wondering what a reasonable charge would be to do a tape of say
>4-8 or so songs, like a demo or an EP.

Actually, I would imagine that it would have a lot to do with where you
live 
(a large city, where there is a lot of demand/competition for this kind
of 
work, or a smaller place). My guess would be that it wouldn't be a bad
idea to 
call around to see what other people are charging.

    *****************************************************
    ** Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez                             **
    **                                                 **
    ** Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu  **
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: louie@cbnewse.cb.att.com (louis.m.leciejewski)
Subject: FORSALE: LANEY 4x12 SPEAKER CABINET
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:40:04 GMT





       FOR SALE: FOR GUITAR / BAND  USE: 


                 MY SON IS SELLING A LANEY 4x12 SPEAKER CABINET WHICH
                 
                 CONTAINS CELESTION 12 INCH SPEAKERS. PLEASE NOTE THAT 
  
                 THIS UNIT REQUIRES THE USE OF AN AMP "HEAD" TO DRIVE 
 
                 THE SPEAKERS.










                 PRICE: $300


       For any questions please call or send e-mail and I will have my
       Son contact you directly. Thank You
       

-- 
===============================================================================
Lou Leciejewski, WB9DKY - AT&T Bell Laboratories - att!ihlpm!loul (708)979-3382
===============================================================================
From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Seeking Metal-Bodied Guitar Info
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: hedron::daveb
Organization: ASO IM operations


re: making your own national steel

If you're not dead set on making your own resonator check out Stewart McDonald's
supply, seems like I saw the (metal) resonators in the catalog once. Sorry I 
don't have a phone number but I believe they advertise in all the major guitar 
and music mags.

--
/dave

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From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:06:57 GMT
Subject: Re: HOW ABOUT a REC.MUSIC.DEMO group?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

Well, it seems like if you're talking about artist demos, use r.m.makers. If
you're talking about writer's demos, use the new r.m.compose (which is quite
active, in spite of the nay-sayer's predictions, on topics I've *never* seen
here in the past...)

Sorry, I'd vote "no."

Bob (though r.m.compose *is* infected w/ academic types...;-) Miller
rhm@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: snake wanted for church
Date: 30 Aug 1992 04:21:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


Oh, for a minute I thought this church was one of those
snake-handling cults :-)
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: dhardma@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Dave Hardman)
Subject: Re: Insurance for Working Musicians?
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:40:05 GMT

joncon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon Connolly) writes:




>A while back, I remember reading something about insurance for musicians.
>I'm not sure if it he/she was talking about renter's insurance or
>not.

>I am in need of getting some insurance on my equipment.  I do realize
>that any of the renter's insurance I have heard about specifically 
>requires that you do not make any money with any of the equipment
>you are insuring.  In other words, it all must be for your own
>private use such as a hobby.  Since I do make money with my stuff
>I'm wondering what kind of insurance there is available to me and
>how much it is ( ball park figures ).  And if anybody is insured 
>this way if they have any tips, experiences, warnings, etc. to share.

>Any info would be greatly appreciated!

>Jon Connolly

>(415) 857-2914
>(415) 344-0708

I would also like to find out this info.

Dave
dhardman@pcocd2.intel.com
From: Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Please help me find this book!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 14:23:23 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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X-XXDate: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:30:46 GMT

A few years ago, when I was going to Berklee College of Music, I used to
have this really cool book about jazz chords and voicings. I think it was
called something like "The Complete Book of Chords for Jazz Piano" or
something like that. It was primarily II-V progression exercises using
different voicings. The book also had in the inside front cover, a sleeve
with one of those plastic demo records with examples from the book.

I have since then lost my copy of this book, which now seems to be out of
print. If you've heard of this book (or better yet, if you have it) could
you please let me buy it from you, or get the publisher info, or
photocopy it?

Many thanks!

    *****************************************************
    ** Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez                             **
    **                                                 **
    ** Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu  **
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From: jason@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Jason Goldman)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:31:14 GMT
Subject: Re: SynthAxe Drumitar?
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

The "Drumitar" is a SyntheAxe guitar-like synthesizer controller.  I don't
know offhand which synthesizer he's using (which is where the drum sounds
are).  It is amazing that he can use the SynthAxe to trigger drums and still
make it sound like a drum kit, I would have expected his phrasing to change
(not suffer, but change from a standard kit sound).

Alan Holdsworth also did some work with the SynthAxe, too.


For those that have never seen one, the SynthAxe has one set of strings
on the body and another set on the neck.  The neck frets are evenly
spaced (not intonated like a guitar's).  There are also a set of keys on
the body and a whammy bar.  The neck and body strings are not connected
and the neck is at a different angle (for ergonomic reasons).  The angle
is something like 150deg.  The idea is that you can control the MIDI
with complex techniques like 'I fretted a note on the first and second
strings, but I only picked the second string.'

It looks like fun to play, but I've never had the opportunity.

Jason
jason@gibson.sde.hp.com
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Passport Now Provides Real Support!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:35:38 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: stevek@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM's message of 25 Aug 92 22:44:23 GMT

In article <1790036@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> stevek@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Steve Kauder) writes:

   Mike assured me that there are new attitudes at Passport and that they
   want to do a much better job.

Well, *I'll* be onto them, after getting back a rather curt fax saying that I
couldn't buy Alchemy in the US and would have to go through a London dealer.
And we all know what UK pricing is like (factor of 2).

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
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     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard Wallingford)
Subject: Re: Insurance for Working Musicians?
Reply-To: dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard Wallingford)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:51:18 GMT

In article <4030057@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, joncon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon
Connolly) writes:
>  
> A while back, I remember reading something about insurance for musicians.
> I'm not sure if it he/she was talking about renter's insurance or
> not.
> 
> I am in need of getting some insurance on my equipment.  I do realize
> that any of the renter's insurance I have heard about specifically 
> requires that you do not make any money with any of the equipment
> you are insuring.  In other words, it all must be for your own
> private use such as a hobby.  Since I do make money with my stuff
> I'm wondering what kind of insurance there is available to me and
> how much it is ( ball park figures ).  And if anybody is insured 
> this way if they have any tips, experiences, warnings, etc. to share.
> 
> Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Many insurance companies are reluctant to cover this type of situation
unless they know you.   Your best bet is to try to go with the agent
who covers your automobile, house, etc.   My policy is with State Farm.
It is called a musical equipment insurance policy for professional use.
It costs approximately 1% of the replacement value of the equipment per
year.  Iv'e never had to make a claim so I don't have many tips to 
offer other than recommend keeping 2 or copies of your inventory (with serial
numbers) and take photographs of all your gear.  Give copy of the photos to 
the insurance company when you take out the policy (they may require it 
anyway). 
 
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From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Subject: Roland D70 Instructions
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 11:28:56 CST

 
Does anyone know of a better instructional manual for the Roland D70.
The one that comes with it is to say the least..not user friendly.
Any help in figuring this out will be appreciated.
 
thanx
 
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
 
p.s. I'm posting this for a friend....I usually just stick to bass.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: SynthAxe Drumitar?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:13:28 GMT

scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) writes:

>kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:

>[stuff deleted...]

>>But having said that, I still have to wonder, what's the point of 
>>inventing a new synthesizer and developing a new technique with the 
>>goal of sounding just like some acoustic instrument?
>>If you want to sound just like you're playing an acoustic X,
>>why don't you just play an acoustic X?  Especially if you're playing
>>something resembling jazz, which generally utilizes the nuances of the 
>>acoustic instrument, nuances that are so subtle & varied that they
>>couldn't possibly show up in digial samples.  Is this just an image thing?

>Wouldn't it be nice if you could stand out front and mix it with the 
>egomaniac guitar players Brian? :-)

>Also a rack mount sampler, dum-axe can be set up and torn down in 2 minutes?
>(well, add sample loading time :-).

No more callouses and blisters or aching wrists and legs, less sweat, the
ability to go wireless and run around the place...

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From: vermilye@Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro,alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Best price on Mackie?
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:57:32 GMT
Reply-To: vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Sep2.230225.4737@oswego.Oswego.EDU> vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.175822.1457@intelhf.hf.intel.com> dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com (David Covell) writes:
>>
>>Where can I find the best mail-order deal on a Mackie 1604 these days?
                                                        ^^^^ 
>
>I purchased mine from Boynton Studio, Melody Pines Farm, Morris, NY 13808
>for $325.00.


Sorry about that - The $325.00 was for the 1202.  They quote $795.00 on the
1604.
>

Jon R. Vermilye                          		         315 341 2138
Department of Theatre, Tyler Hall                  vermilye@oswego.oswego.edu
SUNY Oswego                                         ..rutgers!oswego!vermilye
Oswego, NY 13126                                     vermilye@snyoswva.bitnet
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