From: pauve@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Jan Pauve)
Subject: Re: Assimilationspolitik med mera
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:33:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.123425.24563@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:

> Swedish governement follows the very same pattern:
>  swedish is the only language which
> is given  a status of mother language in Sweden, all other languages spoken in
> Sweden are given a lower status  "home-language" even then when a language

As has been previously stated, the purpose of the term "hemspr}k" is 
to distinguish the mother tongue Swedish taught to whole classes (Swedes
and immigrants) from mother tongues taught to smaller groups.
A BUREAUCRATIC TERM WITH NO DISCRIMINATION IMPLIED.
   
> Do you not see how this rasist thinking style of Nazi-Germany
>  has taken just an other more "civilized " form in Sweden.



> A Sweden's swede is  so indoctrinated  of "swedish superiority"

So are a large percentage of the Finns.

When I moved here I was told that I was a fool to move to Finland, because
"everything in Sweden is so much better"

Or to quote a workmate of mine, on the Monday succeding Sweden
winning icehockey and tabletennis World Championship and the 
Eurovision song contest:

"They are simply better than us"

(The headlines of the leading Finnish evening paper that same day:
 "Why always the Swedes"?)
> that he/she has often no idea that there is any other 
>  people  than swedish speaking people in Sweden originally... ingen aaaning!
> The history is of course  written from Sweden's swedish point of view and
> this manipulation is of course seen from the reactions of Sweden's swedes
> even on this net.

"He denies that she is a witch! This proves the she has bewitched him!
 Let'em both burn!"

> Regards,
> Jarmo Ryyti
> En finndj{vel
> 

I'd like to take the opportunity to comment on Jarmo's earlier postings
these last weeks. 

"These are short-form for how I've percepted Jarmo's views"

"The Finns have lived in Sweden for centuries and should therefore
 get education in their mother tongue"

Jarmo himself has stated that the last of the forest Finns Niitty-Jussi
died in the sixties. Thus the Finns in Sweden today are as much newcomers
as all other immigrants. (Excluding Finnish speakers from Tornedalen 
from this statement)

Let me include this excerpt from one of Jarmo's postings (1992-04-30)
to show how Jarmo feels about Swedish taught in Finland:

> Just adding a detail to a previous notice, Finland has larger minorities 
> than any other
> Nordic country has, may be besides Sweden. The" burden" is quite
                                                !!!!!!!!!
> a heavy already for the Finland to serve this present minority.
> Many people do not seem to know that Finland bear the biggest
> burden already in Scandinavia concerning the minority problems.
!!!!!!!!!                                               !!!!!!!!!
> Finland is only officially multilingual country in Scandinavia!!!!
> Jarmo Ryyti
> Suomi

"The Finns were put into barracks"

As many Yugoslavs and Swedes...
In the sixties, immigration to Sweden was vast; I believe that far more
people than that moved from the countryside to the cities.
Housing for these people was built with such speed that most of those 
houses already after 20 years were ready for large-scale repairs.
It was called "Miljonprogrammet"

"Finnofobia p} ]land"

You stated there was angry reactions in an ]land newspaper because
there were Finnish stickers on food cans. I got the impression that
the stickers covered Swedish text, but assuming I'm wrong:

I see similarities with a letter that 
Suomalaisuuden Liitto (c. Union for Finnishness), which you've
earlier promoted in this newsgroup, wrote to some Finnish cities
earlier this year. 
The cities in question have a small to very-small Swedish speaking 
population and were urged to give up their Swedish names
or rather the official status of them.

A representative for S.L. stated in Helsingin Sanomat something like:
"It's easy for the citizens of <city with practically no Swedish-speakers>
to hold their laugh when they hear their city being called <Swedish name>"
   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Regards
        Janne
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