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From: schwing@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Barbara Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Dead by Dawn
Keywords: In Philadelphia 
      Look for 'em...they're hot.
Date: 27 Dec 92 00:51:10 GMT
Organization: Temple University

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dom@sound.demon.co.uk (The Vex-Master)
Subject: Beatles "Mystery Tour" sampled
Reply-To: dom@sound.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:23:37 +0000

Real sorry about this but yes... it's another "name that track !"

I've heard this track a few times in London over the last few weeks, but
no-one I've asked so far can remember it's name (although it may not have one).

Anyway it's best described as being very beepy (almost computer game-ish) with
a heavy B-line drum-loop (so what's new !) and a long sample taken from The 
Beatles "Mystery Tour". It also has the vocals - "Witness the strength as I
commence" repeated at various times, any ideas ??

And while I'm here anyone heard of a track called/by "DJ Bizness" ?

Laters,
:-Dom
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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (we're tiny we're toony)
Subject: Re: colorado rave digest
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:55:07 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, sprother@nyx.cs.du.edu said about 'colorado
rave digest': 
|
|Big-o special phat greets to U and eye wish ye all phun 93!!
|now lets move onto the colorado rave report. -hendy
|
|                      SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
|                 MOBY * THE PRODIGY * CYBERSONIK
|          jan 25 at the fox theatre in boulder colorado
|-------------------------------------------------------------
|                            REAL SEX
|                            dec 26th
|       rave completely & totally devoted to the art of sex
|                          303.784.5697
|-------------------------------------------------------------
|                              SHINE
|                            dec 26th
|         funk, hip-hop, r&b, ragga illuminate the night
|                   303.899.4936  303.534.2326
|--------------------------------------------------------------
|                   T'WAS THE NITE AFTER X MAS
|                            dec 26th
|                       THE TECHNO ROOM DJs
|       aerich d * hipp-e * john chamie * ll bishop * thijs
|                        THE FUNK ROOM DJs
|            tribal touch * kc allen * captain crunch
|                   303.575.1650  303.899.4911
|--------------------------------------------------------------
|               BLISS a fantastic holiday eventica
|                          new years eve
|303.575.1644 303.575.5632 303.575.1690 303.863.7367 303.750.1530
|                    ft.collins# 303.495.4659
|--------------------------------------------------------------


Smart-E's....

McNichol's Arena....

|                             BLOWOUT
|                          new years eve
|                 DJ Hani * DJ K-Nee * DJ Rave C
|                   $25 info line 303-750-1530
|--------------------------------------------------------------
|                    NEW YEARS EVE CELEBRATION
|   DJ Mark E Quark * DJ Iyagi [japan] * DJ Paul Saunders [uk]
|    DJ Justin Smart [uk] * DJ LL Bishop * scratchmaster Baby G
|                 DJ KC Allen * DJ Captain Crunch
|                             bands:
|    love lies bleeding * lord of word * nebula 9 * chris irie
|             POOR BOY PRODUCTIONS INFO (303)575-1099

i just posted that when the other day....heav-e sigh....

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From: David.Mann@launchpad.unc.edu (David Mann)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: BPM Mailing liList
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:51:08 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

Can someone mail me information on joining the BPM mailing list?
I finally got another account after my last one was garbled in a disk
crash and don't have the address to BPM, thanks!

Dave

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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Praise Raves...
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:50:08 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec21.231914.18849@reed.edu>, jjeffers@lust.reed.edu (Jemiah Levon Jefferson) writes:
> 
>> > You want to experience real love and joy? Find a group of real
>> > Christians. You want joyous enthusiasm? Try a Praise Rave. 
> 
> 
> this frightens me.

And fundies and/or politicians are frightened by your idea of a rave.
Anyone who thinks we can have love and peace while those groups
*supposedly* advocating it fear each other should meditate on this for
a while.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dom@sound.demon.co.uk (The Vex-Master)
Subject: Re: Jingle bells
Reply-To: dom@sound.demon.co.uk
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:52:31 +0000

In article <pet.725379578@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
> Who wants to bet some jerk hasn't already done a rave version of this
> song? I swear I'll Killum. I mean think about it, the BPM would fit
> perfectly, ~140 or so? Gack. barf.

I'm sure I heard a dodgy Christmas track on Kiss FM in London a couple of
weeks ago... not sure if it was Jingle Bells but awful just the same.

And the offenders... I think it was Urban Hype (they of Trumpton fame), but
then again it could be the Smart E's... Oh - who cares !

BTW Paul... does you signature really have to be that long ??
I mean 15 lines might just be considered a bit anti-social to some of us who
have to pay for download time !!

Nuff said,
:-Dom
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From: ack@carson.u.washington.edu (Andrew Ackerman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: where in NYC for NYear's
Date: 30 Dec 1992 09:11:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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Summary: cluesS
Keywords: where

I'm in NYC, don't know where to go.
Can any kinD soul out there tell me where I might find a _raVe_?
PleAse reply via e-mail.
-thanks
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Subject: Mix tapes - pleeeez!
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:32:23 GMT

Hey all you DJ's,

Our campus is just getting a radio station and I have agreed to do
a show.  I am keeping the format wide enough to include almost any
electronic music but would like to have as the main feature, dance
mixes of the latest flavor of techno/house from dj's around the
country (or world?).  PLEASE SEND ME YOUR MIX TAPES.  I WILL PAY
shipping/cost of tape *if necessary*.  Mixes less than one tape side
in length preferred (ie no flipping) but I will accept anything.
I would like to have a little blurb about the DJ and maybe, just maybe
a listing of some of the major tracks in the mix.  Please try to keep
the tapes as high quality as possible; again, I will pay for the cost
of the tape, if necessary.

Email: steve@cse.fau.edu
Phone/Vmail: (407)367-3981
USmail:   (sorry but I don't have a home address right now)
        Attn: Steve Smith, Systems Admin
	FAU, Dept of CS&E
	500 NW 20th Street.
	Boca Raton, FL
	33431-0991

Also:  Please send me address/ph#'s of any music stores who sell
       mix tapes (are they cheap?) and any recommendations you
       might have.

Thanks!  Peace; Rave.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: ID: Rising High RSN 1X and REM Todd Terry remix
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:36:46 GMT
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I just picked up a white label 12" that is kind of housey and somewhat
ambient.  The catalog number on the disc is RSN 1X and it is on Rising
High records.  The title of the song is "rainbows in the sky" and there
are three mixes.  Who does this and what are the titles of the mixes?
It sounds somewhat like Mixmaster Morris' work, a la Irresistible Force,
but housier.


I also saw a 12" of Todd Terry mixes of an REM song.  I haven't heard
the original; how are these?  Email, please.  Thanks


                                                            Mike Brown
_  _ _____________________________________I think, therefore I ambient
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Most Commercial..
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:01:33 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-29-92 20:52
Quoted from: dom@sound.demon.co.uk (The Vex-Master)
> 
> In article <1992Dec26.013644.3038@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
> > 
> >   On Thursday December 31st, 1992 AD, Chemistry Productions in 
> > association with the U.K's largest and most respected Rave 
> > organization - RAINDANCE, will make rave history by pulling off, to 
> > put it simply....... THE BIG ONE!  For the first time ever in the 
> > world, two likeminded rave organizations on different sides of the 
> > globe, will link up, via satellite, in a groundbreaking experiment to 
> > unite over twenty thousand of the worlds craziest ravers!!!
> 
> Which reminds me... any UK alt.ravers going to Raindance ??  Maybe some form
> of alt.rave get-together could be arranged.
> 
> Or have you all gone home for the holiday and are reading this after the
> event ?
> 
> :-Dom
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Anybody going on the Toronto side?  Email me if you are; just curious 
as to how big this is going to be (they are saying 20,000 on the UK 
end of things).  Evidently Raindance is getting a lot of press in 
London.

rev (greg.ipp@rose.com)
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: Only for the Headstrong #2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:47:14 GMT

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:

>In article <1hlc4cINNkqc@agate.berkeley.edu> lakata@physics20 (Mark Lakata) writes:
>>I just got Only for the Headstrong #2 recently, English import, and also
>>picked up the latest issue of Urb magazine.  They review the cd, but the 
>>tracks they discuss are not on OFTH2 nor on OFTH1.  These are the tracks
>>they talk about (with high marks???)  They say this is a hardcore techno comp..
>>Is this the same cd?  What's going on here? Is the first one the domestic
>>release?

>	You and Pete and I have the import version - I have the vinyl, which
>is a PISS-poor-quality recording :(.  Looks like they added a few tracks
>which were becoming popular here, and lopped off some of the true stinkers.
>I had that very same question today when I saw a 12" single for Electroset's
>"How Does It Feel", for $4.99, with the sticker "From OFTH2" and I thought
>WHA?  So I guess they have got permission to use the samples now...

How is this CD by the way?  The only song I recognize is Utah Saints, but
I already have that on another CD comp, so Im not convinced I should buy
OFTH2.

-Dan
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: FAQ Request
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 04:03:28 GMT


WI do not have ftp access, so will the keeper (or anyone) of the alt.rave FAQ
please e-mail me the most recent version?

Thanks.

bladex@wixer.cactus.org

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From: jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Has the RMI cd been shipped!?! (oh boy oh boy)
Date: 1 Jan 1993 23:03:03 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

Just asking.  Wetting myself in antici...

















pation....
From: wbogue@cwis.unomaha.edu (Willie Bogue)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Name That Tune & HT Techno?
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:33:35 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

JD> bzzt. thanks for playing. it's "what's the beat for this tune?" 
JD> 
JD> grammatically correct, even!

Out of curiosity--Is the guy saying "what's the beat for this tune" Sir
Mix-A-Lot?
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dom@sound.demon.co.uk (The Vex-Master)
Subject: The Beloved
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:00:11 +0000

There was talk of The Beloved last week, I'll be working with some guy in
the new year who apparently had something to do with them... Steve Waddington
or something ??

Anyone know his connection ?

Cheers,
:-Dom
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Has the RMI cd been shipped!?! (oh boy oh boy)
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:30:34 GMT

In article <1i2ij7INN700@shelley.u.washington.edu> jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long) writes:
>Just asking.  Wetting myself in antici...

Nope...BUT! This is the week they return from the pressing plant, and Ben Cox
and I are on DEFCON 1 Standby Alert <tm> for them so we can get the liner
notes stuffed in, the mailers on and the labels stuck, and haul 'em to the
Champaign PO. A matter of days, folks, a matter of days...

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)

P.S. Now watch...they'll prolly get here while I'm over in NY State after
Wednesday...knowing Murphy...
From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: SASSY rave article
Keywords: rave review
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:02:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>Join me, won't you, in a muddy airfield in Winchester, England.  Watch
>sheets of rain fall from the sky and 30,000 tripping teenagers smeared
>in Vicks Vapo-rub rave their little hearts out until the sun comes up.
>BY CHRISTINA
Too bad all the mean bad water didn't melt CHRISTINA!
Get a grip... is she a flower or a human be-in?
Here are my comments which I will be mailing to her!

>I just got back from London.  A few weeks ago, Shelby, the Elektra
Ha ha!  I just got back as well!

>and I had never gone to one before.
Oh, this isn't too obvious!

>I'll admit that I don't have a taste for techno as a genre.
Well, at least she's honest about her attitude towards thee whole scene and
she did do her homework/research.

>tried to listen to the Prodigy tape on the plane but couldn't.  It
No, I don't like thee Prodigy either I must admit but for different
reasons.

>entrance, which was decidedly un-VIP-ish.  It was pouring rain and
Sorry darling but the rave scene isn't tolerant ov people who consider
themselves VeryImportantPeople or elite. 

>dehydration) or little bottles of a greenish liquid called Gluconate,
>a Gatorade-like drink that ravers consume to keep them dancing all
>night.  Emma, who is English, said that her mum used to give it to
>her as a child when she was sick.  Someone gave me one.  It was fizzy
>and sort of vitaminy-tasting and it did make me feel slightly less
>jet-lagged.
Gee, do you mean Lucozade, a glucose drink? So much for accuracy folks!

>it was just some girl saying "ecstasy" over and over.  The
Um, perhaps if you actually listen you'll know that's far from true.

>As a group, the ravers could not have been more pasty and
Hey, do you forget that the British are generally pale and fair skinned.
It's not exactly Malibu or Miami, a typical American observation.

>units.  The ravers wore your basic oversized T-shirts and sweatshirts
>and jeans.  But they accesorized with such truly weird things -- like
Oh excuse me, this isn't a fashion show - let's see who's more glamourous!

>Gilligan's Island hats bearing little pins with the letter "E" (for
These hats, for someone who KNOWS about fashion, are called porkpie hats.  

>when people passed by they did not push.  Any event in the United
>States with a crowd this size would certainly have a major police
>presence, but there were no policemen on the grounds.  There didn't
>seem to be any violence.  Even so, it all seemed so desperate to me.
>And soulless.
Soulless?  A minute ago she said "There was definately an atmosphere of love 
and sharing", people "did not push", "didn't seem to be any violence"
How contradictory can she get?
-- 
perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: tribal roots
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:58:48 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.

squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) pushes friendly international relations:
 
>, and if they didn't see this .... well I'm afraid they're just brain
>dead ....
>
>        Keep your "those thick brits" comments to yourself shithead , as :
>                a) It will start more UK vs US crap
 
Hear hear! (or is it "here here!" ? :-)  )
 
>                b) I'm SCOTTISH and take no pleasure from being called British ,
>                   whatever that means nowadays
>
>        You can also lay of the socialistic "house music buried deep in poverty
>, industrial decline ... (lots more psychology student crap deleted) rubbish ,
>as frankly I don't give a shit .... I listen to the music and love it , I don't
>care about what started it .
 
Right on, and all that.
 
>        As for Tribal music , I caught the sound coming out of deep house ....
>so stop trying to lay your "I know more about dance music" shit on me , as where
>I'm from , we don't go to clubs and try and impress everyone else by spouting
>musical knowledge , that is if most dance music can be pidgeon holed anyway ....
Pray tell; what do you do then at dance clubs? ;-)
 
>        And lay off the techno shit ..... as I said , this means different
 
TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO and TRIBAL TECHNO! :)
 
>things nowadays , and to most Europeans , sums up the shit coming from England
>like "the prodigy" and "the Smart-E" shit .... we've lost our E-Generation , and
Luckily, that's identified more with rave here, not with techno.
At least that's we I & my small circle of friends say about it!
 
>I bloody well hope we lose techno as well .... 'cos there's not a lot going down
>there anymore . And what happened to detroit , or was that an industrial decline
>- linked poverty stricken rythem based fad as well ....
 
Detroit is in panic.
 
>(I don't undersatand  that last line either , so forget it :)
 
Oh, OK.
 
>I'm not a prude ...
 
I am not a number, I'm a free man.
 
This is not a pipe :^?
 
>Merry bloody Christmas :| (blank expression)
>
>Stephen Quigg
 
Merry Ex-Mas
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
I am not a crook.                    breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
 
I am not an animal. I am not an animal. I am a human being. I am a man.
 
TRIBAL TECHNO! TRIBAL TECHNO! TRIBAL TECHNO! :)
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Most Commercial Rave.
Date: 26 Dec 1992 04:11:57 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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In article <1992Dec25.222701.17033@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (hackers schmackers) writes:
|Somewhere in Cyberspace, tedwards@wam.umd.edu said about 'Most
|Commercial Rave.': 
||In article <1992Dec24.161115.9991@rose.com| greg.ipp@rose.com (greg
||ipp) writes: 
|||He makes it sound like a rip-off of the 1960s Tim Leary days.  Why 
|||can't we ever be given our OWN culture, our OWN identity?  Everything 
|||is compared to what older generations did yesterday...  
||
||Because we are only part of grand cycle...raving is just a modern
||expression of a beat and a feeling locked deep inside the psyche
||of humanity for eons, expressed, stifled, supressed, and
||expressed once more.
|
|That's all well and cool, but don't you think that cycle is evolving?
|for it to contunue to evolve, it should be likened to the past, but
|also seen in a new (strobe-)light.....
|
|I actually give the generalized-stereotyped-popular-media a lot of
|credit in this historical sense
|
|(ohhhhhhhhhh,  Blue Room on Commercial College RADIO alteralertalertalert)
|[hope your nuclear techno-shelters are well deconstructed]
|
|ok, now that I'm zoning on the electro-waves of the Blue Room, I'll
|try and get back to what I was originally subjectively subjecting
|to...
|
|I actually give the generalized-stereotyped-popular-media a lot of
|credit in this historical sense - seeing it as a mostly new culture
|wit a little 'o dee ole.....Personal-e I don't even trust too much
|anyone who DOESN'T liken rave to the 60's in some hyper-dimensional
|sense or another.....
|
|[booooooo, they played the 3minute edit on the detachable penis
|corporate-college radi0.....bah......If it's under 40minutes it's not
|worth z0ning 2......=)  ]
|
|At any rate, Timoth-e Lear-e is into raves....There's a reason for
|that...don't deny it in your mind, don't deny it in the media, don't
|deny it to other ravers, just try and realize why he likes raves, and
|movin' on up from there.....Raves are much more than Leary and the
|60's we all know that, but if we don't learn from the past we can't
|move forward.....
|

Like Chris Beaumont quoted to me: "History doesn't repeat, it rhymes!"

	Brian