From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: Moderated Group/John Winston
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:13:46 GMT

In article <92363.142906U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Well, I just had a thought after reading several posts against a
>moderated newsgroup: Maybe John Winston is doing his crap to steer this
>group towards it being moderated.  How's that for a conspiracy?
>I guess the solution that might work best without using a moderator is just
>to ignore John Winstons.  This means everybody has to MODERATE themselves and
>restrain from flaming John Winston and those like him.
>Ethan Haslett
>u37460@uicvm.uic.edu

Pardon me..I've been lurking again :}
 
Seems to me that you've hit upon something here. Let me expand upon it
a bit..I said something alone these same lines in alt.conspiracy.

What is it that you supervise in people? You only supervise that which
is worthless. It's only =responsible= people who do not need to be 
"supervised/moderated". Idiots,fools,flamers and just plain twits
MUST BE "supervised"..(kinda like children you know?) . Only the
absolutely clueless refuse to perceive what peer pressure is trying
to tell them. Now, John Winston doesn't bother me because I generally
ignore him..I don't have the time for pointless head games. He may
be a complete idiot or just some one who has gotten all of your "goats".
 
I do know this - When you see obvious flame bait, try ignoring it next
time. The poster usually lives for LIVE responses and when they aren't
forthcoming figures that no one is interested any more. Do this enough
and you will reclaim the newsgroup back. Tried reasoning and failed?
 
Use email to his site and include numerous examples of the offender's
writing. Failing that, play stuff-his-mailbox with LARGE files (naw
don't do that..just kidding).
 
ONE of you must take the initiative and DO SOMETHING. Don't wait
for "someone" else to do anything. Even if that means, creating 
a separate newsgroup and even discussion amonsgt yourselves as
to WHO would make a GOOD moderator. Generate consensus. Take action.
 
Otherwise, keep bitchin' and moaning and getting nowhere.
 
I quit posting here because I just don't have time anymore for idiotic
responses and children's reactions. I would be tremendously encouraged
to send a moderator a bunch of files (I have tons and tons).
 
And for those who lurk here waiting for "proof"...try doing something
like research on your own. Read books. Visit UFO BBS's..get to know
the Fido Net UFO echoes (Paranet, Mufonet, Odyssey, Fido UFO) where
BS like Mr Winston is *not* allowed. There's wayyyyy too much noise
on this newsgroup anymore to be of any use. My recommendation is to
KILL IT and start a MODERATED group up. You can grit your teeth and
continue slugging it out here, or.......
 
Incidentally, Mr Winston would have three chances on *my* echo and
then I'd kill his feed, if he persisted. Poof! Gone..
 
                     
                      Don Allen
                  FidoNet UFO Echo Moderator
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