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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:44:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject: Re: VP debate

It was DePauw University, in Indiana.  DePaul University is
in Chicago.

Steve Karlson
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>--No, abh my friend, that's *your* spirit, and a mean puir thing it is,
>too.  Next offense gets your <entrails> used for divination: I still have

Hey, Bayla, I get the feeling here you just passed over the line from
mental horseplay to some sort of veiled warning. What is it, woman? Did I
<piss you off> or something? I don't even remember addressing anything to
you (or even replying to anything you said!) on the list lately. I sure
didn't mean to do anything offensive to you. If I laid into something you
said a little too hard, just let me know and I'll make a mental note to
tread a wide berth around anything that's <near and dear> to you.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:47:23 EDT
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
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              "WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Oct 15, 92 4:19 pm

> Not you or Jenna or Adam or Price or abh or Rashmi or Karen or Neal or
> Elaine -- unless you used a timer.  Those are the people in the picture
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Is this near the Bake-pit?  I don't remember this picture at all.  Graham
isn't in the big group picture in front of the <lodge>, right?

rashmi
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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Waste Not, Want Not (was Re: 99 and 44/100 percent pure)
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:51:47 GMT

In article <HAYCOCK.92Oct13091838@marley.think.com> haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock) writes:
>   I, too, had "waste not, want not" drilled into me at an early age, and find

I'm into 'conspicous environmental consumption' at the moment.  For instance,
wasting as much paper as possible because it's environmentally sound to lock
up carbon in trees - recycling paper is anti-social, environmentally speaking,
because they don't plant new trees to soak up more CO2 and turn it into wood
for new paper.  As long as your waste is buried, of course, and not burned.

G
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:42:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject: Re: VP debate

>Who said that "Washington has all the charm of the North and all the
> efficiency of the South"?

Attributed to John F (Stud I) Kennedy

Steve Karlson
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Evenlyn comments:
>On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:39:04 EDT Rita Marie Rouvalis said:
>>
>>	Huh?  Who on this list is still in college?  I mean, except
>>for all the professors.  Lisa, you may be the only one!
>>
>>Rita
>
>No, she's not.

    Doesn't Alec go to Villanova?

Joan
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ((Natalie Maynor))
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Both Bayla and abh make/raise some good points.  I'll ponder the principles
involved later -- not much time for e-mail today.  One quick point re the
VMIers, though:  I decided pretty quickly that deleting wasn't a good course
of action and added them back.  I doubt that they ever knew that they had
missed X hours of list mail.  (I don't remember how many hours it was.)
Another question to think about:  If it appears to be the case that a few
possibly odd representatives of an institution are spreading a negative,
possibly false image of that institution to a wide audience -- and that
this situation is unknown to the other people at the institution, should
those who do know about it do anything about it?

Don't think I said that very clearly.  Gotta log off now, though.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:42:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: gas tax

> Tell me it's not true! You don't really only pay $1.25 per gallon, do you?

Sorry to ruin your morning, but the price of Amoco Silver at DeKalb, Illinois
is $1.259/gallon, including federal and state taxes.  The low petrol
prices are one reason mass-transit and local railway services are so rare
in the States.  Our Chinese graduate students have remarked on how odd it is
that a major railway runs right through DeKalb -- and no passenger
service.

Amoco Silver is a mid-grade fuel (we have three grades, "regular,"
mid, and "premium" (sometimes called "high-test" or "high-octane.")
Petrol prices are slightly lower in Wisconsin than Illinois (state
sales taxes differ).  No, I don't know why gas stations figure prices
to the .009 of a dollar.

Steve Karlson

 The cheesehead stands alone.
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:32:22 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: All aboard AUStrak (was gas tax)
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Steve, I wasn't really <cut>... just pretending. :-)

>It's just that Albury
>was the gauge-break station at which all through passengers had to change
>because each of the Australian states had built its railroads to a
>different gauge.  If memory serves, "All Change Albury" was the most hated
>expression in Australian railroading.

This was true but in the early 60's (I think it was) they built a standard
line between Sydney and Melbourne, so it would have been possible in '69 to
travel through to Melbourne without changing except that my police powers
didn't extend that far.

>So I was sceptical that you
>and your charge would be inconspicuous *at Albury*, where all had to
>change.

You were right, of course... we weren't. :-)

>One aspect of Australian railroads that I like is, your trains look
>like trains.  None of this pipsqueak, 4-wheel car, 13 foot vertical
>clearance, hydraulic transmission stuff.

I guess then that you would fancy a ride on the 3801...... it has been fully
restored again now, after the accident it had a few years ago ( another train
run up the back of it on a steep grade - did you know about that?) and it is
supposed to be still operating for railway enthusiast's pleasure jaunts, but
since it usually only comes out at Christmas time, it will probably be a few
more months before I hear that old familiar sound of a steam train thundering
along the tracks in the valley below me..... always gives me goose pimples and
takes me back to my childhood. Unfortunately most of our trains don't look
like that anymore... they replaced them all with electric trains which have
about as much character as tin cans.

Carolyn
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:14:00 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Dead Brain Cells re DST
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              Oct 16, 92 9:09 am

	I've been a week ahead all month, Natalie.  I think it
has something to do with the extra week in October this year
(five fridays = an extra paycheck though :)).

Rita
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              15 Oct 1992 09:09:00 EST from <185422285@WILD.UCIS.VILL.EDU>

On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:09:00 EST Alec D. Plotkin said:
>
>>    Doesn't Alec go to Villanova?
>
>>Joan
>
>I work for Villanova Univ. I manage a lab for our school of Commerce and
>Finance. I wish I still went to school,

And I can't wait until I'm out of college.
>
>later
>
>alec

Evelyn
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Having read the book _Soul of a New Machine_, I'm not surprised that the
head of DEC is so backward in his thinking.  Some of his best and brightest
programmers and hardware experts had to start Data General just to get a
more modern minicomputer built.

BTW, I tried to add an emergency subscription to words-l under my Internet
account (r3ejd@vm1.cc.uakron.edu), and I received a message telling me that
my Bitnet account would be modified (which I didn't want).  I'd like the
Internet sub to be set to nomail unless Bitnet is down for any length of
time (such as a day or two or more), then I would send mail to the listserv
through Internet to activate the Internet one.

Evelyn (addicted to words-l and proud of it!)
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:39:07 -0700
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: Reality v. Rhetoric

Okay, Jim, here you go:
        (OR MAYBE I SHOULD PUT THIS IN ALL CAPS FOR JAG'S BENEFIT?)  8-)

        "As a result, the responsibility for taking the initiative, for in-
novating, catalyzing, and leading such an effort, falls disproportionately
on the United States.  Yet in the early 1990s our instinct for world leader-
ship often seems not nearly so bold as it was in the late 1940s.  The bitter
experience of the Vietnam War is partly responsible, and the sheer weariness
of carrying the burden of world leadership has taken a toll.  Furthermore, we
are not nearly as dominant in the world economy as we were than, and that
necessarily has implications for out willingness to shoulder large burdens.
And our budget deficits are now so large as to stifle our willingness to
consider even the most urgent of tasks"

                                        - op cit

JMW
ps - we must have been bombarded with L-rays yesterday. I asked my best
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Date: 16 Oct 92 16:28:35 GMT
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Neal,
 Be thankful you are alive and well.  Be thankful that you have FTF
friends and Virtual friends.  Be thankful that you have a good mind.
Be thankful that you can enjoy things, such as sports.  Be thankful
that when you need a good word, all you have to do is ask and it is
provided en masse.

 Have a marvelous un-birthday and look at yourself in the mirror and
say "I'm a lucky man.  More positive things are coming my way than
negative ones.  I *like* myself."

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:49:14 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: 99 and 44/100 percent pure
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>> Re Rigoletto:  amazingly wonderful production of this opera last
>> year on PBS, done by what's-his-name in London who does the updated
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> opera stuff....  A really remarkable production, with everything
>
>Responding to my own post in my best metatextual fashion, I will
>guess:  Jonthan Miller   (??????)  Anybody know for sure?
>--ggs
My guess was Peter Sellars, but that's not a "for sure" at all...

judith
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:12:33 -0700
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: LATER

Unfortunately, my penis is larger than my income.

anonymous
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:25:48 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Clinton's letter and stuff
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1992, gilbertsmith wrote:

> I really liked "brass plated butt plug".... that's very inventive.
> Nice metaphor.  :-)

Metaphor, my foot! What, don't you have one too?

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:59:57 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Presidential politics
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              at Oct 12, 92 11:07 pm

> It's four more years than any other presidential candidate. And besides--
> for someone from Arkansas, Cambridge MA *is* a foreign culture.  God knows
> I felt that way coming from Hawaii to Yale.

	Karen, Cambridge MA is a foreign culture to *everyone*, except
possibly natives of Berkeley CA.  But I like it.

Rita
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>The North Shore Line quit running in 1963.

Are we talking about the same North Shore Line.... Milson's Point; North
Sydney; Woolstencraft; St. Leonards; Chatswood and all stations north to
Hornsby? That one's still operational, although they did close a few of
the stations down in the early 70's..... I used to catch the train to work
from Milson's Point in '66/67. There used to a tramway serving the more
eastern suburbs on the North Shore.... namely all points east to Manly, but
they closed that down in the 50's..... I don't recall ever hearing of a
railway having ever served those suburbs, but then my first trip to Sydney
was at the age of 12.

>My last trip on the North
>Shore Line was at the age of six.  If there is a generation gap, it
>is likely the reverse of your perception :-)

Well, I didn't mention the direction of that perception.

>No electric railways in Australia in your youth?

I didn't mean that - perhaps what I should have said was that I didn't
experience electric trains as an impressionable child. I don't know when
electric trains were first introduced here, but I was 12 before I saw my
first one. I did however get some tram rides in before they took them out of
service.

>Hmm, maybe that's why it took Australian syndicates nearly 20 years to win the
>America's Cup :-)

Or perhaps older Australians just had better things to do with their money. :-)

Carolyn
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     Final (I hope) plans are being drawn up and I will be traveling
the 25th-27th of October.  And the winner for my route is the
Appalachians along the Virginia/West Virginia border.  My scout troop
(when I lived in the area) did a lot of camping in those hills and I
didn't get a chance to say good-bye when we left (We travelled north
to I-80 then west.), so I would like to drive through them again.
Soon.  This means that Brad is the WORDS-L'er most likely to first
meet me.  My tentative schedule is:

     October 25   Denver --> St. Louis
     October 26   St. Louis --> Lexington --> W. Virginia border
     October 27   Down the W.Virginia turnpike, jump a little east,
                  and cruise up to D.C.

     My apologies to those who I will miss (e.g. Karen and Neal).
Another time, perhaps, at another place.  There is a fair possibility
that I will be able to attend the '93 Goatathon, since I will have
both income and vacation time by that time.

Thanks to all for their good wishes,
Bob
WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:43:38 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Simultaneous entropic translation

>>Nie przesadzaj.
>
>   I asked the Wojownik if a different perfective verb might not have
>   been preferable, and he responds, enigmatically, "Don't transplant."

>brad

Bohater to you.  And the joke about planting in "Nie przesadzaj" is that it
means don't transplant occasionally, but usually "Don't exaggerate."

-K

-Mka
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:43:04 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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 6) TAFE college (Carolyn)

    College of Technical and Further Education - Australian tertiary
institution offering a variety of courses to attain trade; skilled or
semi-skilled qualifications. Since all Institutes of Higher Education (
formerly known as Colleges of Advanced Education and before that Teacher's
Colleges) have now been almagamated with our existing Universities, TAFE
Colleges and Universities are the only tertiary institutions in the public
education system.

20) NSW government/XPT train (Carolyn)

    The government of the State of New South Wales - the most populous of the
six states  (New South Wales; Victoria; Queensland; South Australia; Western
Australia and Tasmania) and two territories (Northern Territory and Australian
Capital Territory) of Australia.

    XPT train - Australian imitation of high-speed French trains. I'm not sure
where this label originated, but I have heard it referred to as "eXtra-fast
Passenger Transport/Train". The speeds they are supposed to be capable of are
never realised on our antiquated railway lines. The other major criticism of
them is that they only provide single class travel - at first-class prices.
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From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Bully pulpit

From the AHD3:

An advantageous position, as for making one's views known or rallying support:
"The presidency had been transformed from a bully pulpit on Pennsylvania Ave-
nue to a stage the size of the world" (Hugh Sidey).

Emily
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Subject:      Rush and Bill

Greetings,

Did anyone else happen to see the highly amusing Firing Line episode that
aired this weekend?  Bill Buckley and Rush Limbaugh!  Ah, what fun?
Buckley seemed to have a good time toying with his neanderthal guest.  At
one point, Rush commented that the "feminist agenda" is inconsistent
because "on the one hand these women want to serve on the front lines in
combat roles, but if somebody fondles one of them in the workplace they
run screaming for a lawyer to defend them."  Bill responded that "Oh,
come on, Rush, that's not a fair analogy!"  Rush said, "Oh, I think it
is."  Buckley said, in his patented patronizing fashion, "Now, now,
there really isn't any relationship between these two positions; after all
a woman in the workplace is entitled to expect a certain level of civility."
At this point, unable to hang up on his caller, Rush started to back down
in the time-tested manner of moronic bullies faced with greater strength,
whether intellectual or physical.

Marty
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Interesting observations, Carol.  Your subject header makes me want to put
it to music.  :-)

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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> 	I don't believe I've ever owned anything quite like it in
> my entire life.
>
> Rita

I'm so happy you didn't already <have one>.... that would have
been a real bummer!  Enjoy.
--ggs
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:57:59 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Words-L Weekly Digest
              10 Oct 1992 21:54:30 -0400 from <RKESSLER@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

>(By the way, I'm still alive but having trouble keeping up with the
>list. Maybe once a week someone should prepare a 25 - 50 words summary,
>or maybe shorter, for those of us who temporarily can't hack it.)

 Here's a sample, right at 50 words, of how lifeless this would be:

  judith returns.  Carmick appears briefly, leaves again.  Speculations
  on jcs absence.  VMI trio create stir, are banished, return.  Torkel
  reveals jailhouse past, leaves for Spain.  gt speaks of Sandhurst
  training, court-martial.  Former undercover policewoman from Australia
  begins posting.  Braves go up 3-1 in NLCS.  Longest thread: 99 and
  44/100 pure.

brad
From: rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 21:40:10 GMT
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              92 2:41 pm

> This morning I posted about this interesting catalog, but all the stuff
> cited then was just from the latest supplement.  Now I got the thick,
> 250 page catalog.  It includes an essay by "Mr. EFF", Mitch Kapor, on
> the EFF and the issues it deals with.  Interesting.

	Cool.  Wonder which one it is.  Wonder if it's one I've worked on.
Now THAT would be neat.

Rita
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Greetings, Neal,

Happy Birthday!

I've been thinking about you this week (especially during the NL finale).
It was just about a year ago I enjoyed your hospitality in Pittsburgh.
When can we expect you in either Bowling Green or Louisville?  Any holiday
plans for a trip to bluegrass country?  I've got bourbon, scotch, irish,
gin, beer, vodka, and all the accessories.

Marty
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