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From: davison@menudo.uh.edu (Dan Davison)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Xanax
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:16:49 GMT
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Aug26.194604.19032@equator.com> jod@equator.com (John Setel O'Donnell) writes:
   Xanax is neither safe nor effective for other than short-term use
   (short term, e.g.: you have to fly today and you have fear of flying).
   It is physically addictive, and loses most of its antianxiety effect
   after about 2 weeks use.

Beg to differ. I found that its antianxiety effect lasted for more
than 6 months.

It is very very very addictive and it took me *years* to get off it,
though. I would not think long-term use a good idea except for unusual
circumstances.

dan
--
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Houston/4800 Calhoun/Houston,TX 77204-5934/davison@uh.edu/DAVISON@UHOU

-----RIP Isaac Asimov 1920-1992     I'll miss him --------------------

Disclaimer: As always, I speak only for myself, and, usually, only to
myself.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: CFIDS and Lyme
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:44:29 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Sep1.202042.16704@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> odp@ldgo.columbia.edu (carl brenner) writes:
	
>talking about local Pittsburgh doctors, we're obviously not. (And how do
>these guys get away with it in an area where you say there's no Lyme?!)

They claim there really is lyme everywhere.  The patients believe
them.  Hard to blame them when they are told something they thought
was incurable (MS) can be cured.


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From: white@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Janet White)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Wellbutrin
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:06:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I've seen mention of the antidepressant Wellbutrin recently on sci.med.
Could anyone summarize what class of drugs it is in, how it works
(on what systems), what the recent findings with it have been, etc.
The information would be much appreciated.

- Janet
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: L. day, md
From: Eugene.Bartley@f10.n3630.z1.fidonet.org (Eugene Bartley)
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:30:28 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3630/10 - Trail-T, Naples FL

Looking for information concerning recent book by Dr. Laraine Day about 
AIDS/HIV and alleged government (USPHS,CDC) censorship. Has anyone read this 
book? Please post or netmail me.


 

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Internet: Eugene.Bartley@f10.n3630.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jlc@atux01.att.com (Jim Collymore)
Subject: Re: Smelling and Tasting
Organization: AT&T Corporate Education and Training
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:45:23 GMT

Back in 1979 I mysteriously began to lose my sense of taste over a period of
several weeks.  I didn't lose my sense of smell, though.  It was very scary
after awhile because I couldn't besure if I were eating bad food UNLESS it 
smelled bad.  (And being a bachelor at the time, I sometimes kept food in
the fridge for some time.)

My first doctor asked me if I'd had any recent head trauma, since that may have
caused damage to my Olfactory bulb, which could have destroyed my ability to
taste, too.  However, I had had no recent head trauma so that was ruled out.

Another doctor was real sharp and said it might be a ZINC DEFICIENCY.  It seems
that a loss of taste is a symptom of such a deficiency.  So, I began taking a
Zinc supplement, and sure enough, within about two weeks, my sense of taste
was restored.  I followed up by taking Centrum multivitamins on a daily
basis to maintain my normal nutritional needs.

You may want to consider ZINC, but talk to your doctor first!

Good luck.

						Jim Collymore
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: phentermine & fenfluramine
Keywords: sci.med
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:37:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Sep2.033702.5431
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <hank.715397717@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
>If you can get your library reference desk to help you, look for an
>article within the past couple of months in the New York Times on the
>recent major study using phentermine and fenfluramine; you can then
>call the university where it was done and they will send you a very
>clear helpful summary of the study, from their public relations dept.

The journal is "Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics".  Weintraub is
at the University of Rochester, if my memory serves me.  Your best bet
is to hand these articles to your doctor.

Weintraub, et. al., Long-term weight control study.
Clin Pharmacol Ther (1992 May) 51(5):586-641
      I (weeks 0 to 34). The enhancement of behavior modification, caloric
	restriction, and exercise by fenfluramine plus phentermine versus
	placebo.
     II (weeks 34 to 104). An open-label study of continuous fenfluramine plus
	phentermine versus targeted intermittent medication as adjuncts to
	behavior modification, caloric restriction, and exercise.
    III (weeks 104 to 156). An open-label study of dose adjustment of
	fenfluramine and phentermine.
     IV (weeks 156 to 190). The second double-blind phase.
      V (weeks 190 to 210). Follow-up of participants after cessation
	of medication.
     VI Individual participant response patterns.
    VII (weeks 0 to 210). Serum lipid changes.
-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: jsl+@pitt.edu (John S Lundberg)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: accuracy of nutritional labelling
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:58:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jsl@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

It seems that more and more food is being sold with nutritional
contents listed on the packaging.  Has anyone ever seen any
Consumer Reports-type studies testing the accuracy of this
information?  I have no real reason to be suspicious but just
wonder if the labels are reliable indicators.
-- 
John Lundberg  
jsl@unix.cis.pitt.edu 
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: Re: weight gain
Summary: diet
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 21:03:15 GMT

Seth Reichelson wrote
>>    does anybody know of a healthy way of gaining weight

And David Borean responded
>Yeah.. Try going to a Gym and working out.. Worked for me, plus you don't have
>any problems with excess fat or anything.

In terms of diet modifications, I have consistently heard recommendations
for high-carbohydrate diets to help with weight gain.  Increase your
calorie intake, lift weights, and instead of loading up on ice cream
(fats), eat pasta and potatoes (without butter, natch).

Maybe someone has more info on this, but the last time I saw an article
on the need to gain weight, it was in reference to fertility.  Supposedly
some study found that many "infertile" women were properly functioning
after gaining 10-15% of their weight.  The recommended diet was high-carb
(of course).  Anybody know more on this?  I've always thought the
obsession with super-low weights and body fat levels counter the
fact that the female body needs fat to have children.

--Jo


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Economics Department
Stanford University
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Energy Per Gram?
Keywords: Calories, Fat, Carbohydrates, Protein
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:05:38 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <q#knx3d.rohwerwd@netcom.com>, rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
|> 
|>      I am in a quandry.  I would like to know the standard values for
|> calories per gram of fat, carbohydrate, and protein.  The following
|> values are from three sources (books) that I read and my own computations
|> based upon the "system of linear equations" concept from linear algebra.
|> 

	The general rule-of-thumb standard is:
		carbohydrates:	4 cal/gm
		proteins:	4 cal/gm
		fats:		9 cal/gm

Best guess is that these are rounded figures; they are given for purposes
of estimating, not exact microwatt energy computations. A second guess is
that these are averages: will all carbohydrate or protein compositions
yield the same energy? What about all fat forms - one would expect unsaturated
fats to have a different amount of energy stored in their bonds than
saturated fats.

	Finally, the compositions you are using for your linear equations
are probably all rounded numbers. So you're trying to get more accuracy
on your output than you have in your input. For example, in your second
computation, if the real values for hi-c are 164.9 Cal and 41.5 g of carbs,
(leaving other figures the same) the output values are 3.97 Cal/g for
carbs, 5.38 for proteins, and 8.58 for fats. 

	- anyone know if there's a mandated standard for what procedure
the manufacturers use to determine the calories per portion on the labels?
If they're doing straight calorimeter tests, they may be overestimating by
including energy from non-digestible fiber.
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Anorexia Nervosa
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:20:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Sep04.202040.26889
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Sep4.051103.18527@news.iastate.edu> TY.AU7@isumvs.iastate.edu (C. MARIE RIGGINS) writes:
>I am looking for information on Anorexia Nervosa.  I have always
>been very small and very thin, I have had several people ask me
>if I am Anorexic and I would like to know the facts.  I know that
>anorexics try and starve themselves, which I do not do.  I would
>like to be able to put an end to their accusations.

    Try looking it up in the Merck Manual.  In a nutshell, AN is thought to
be an emotional disorder in which the victim's attempts to control their
lives manifest as an unwillingness to eat, with a simultaneous
self-perception of being overweight (even when they're as thin as a rail).
    I know a few recovering anorexics, and it is a very difficult disease
to treat (as well as to have).  My feeling is that if someone is anorexic,
they know it (although they may exhibit amazing denial).

-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: 6175190@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: weight gain
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 17:29:13 GMT

>   does anybody know of a healthy way of gaining weight
>
>                                             Seth

May I ask your age, height and weight? The reason I ask is (and I know
this may sound naive) but the majority of people I know who have been
"underweight" in their youth, have picked up weight (often more than
they ever wanted!) simple by living long enough. Probably not a very
satisfactory posting, but I'd caution gaining too much weight just
for looks, especially if exercise is not a part of your life-IMHO.
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: hypoglycemia
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:48:47 GMT

In article <BtwoD2.It8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> popetz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clinton C. Popetz) writes:
>Well I posted on rec.food.cooking a while back, and the responses were limited,
>probably because my post wasn't flame oriented or about cast iron :)
>
>My fiance is hypoglycemic.  Every doctor/nutrition expert/random person
>seems to have a different idea as to exactly how to help this condition, and
>the end result is a lot of contradictory information regarding diets to help.
>
>If ANYONE has information, or can recommend a place to get information about  
>this I would be eternally grateful.

Here's what I've read/heard:

To determine hypoglycemia requires at least a 5-hour Glucose Tolerance Test &
then hopefully the results will be properly interpreted.  Diet should be higher
in protein with high-protein snacks--probably would be better to have 6 small
meals than 3 large ones.  Avoidance of refined carbohydrates (white sugar,
white rice, white flour & the "foods" containing them).  Elimination of soda,
alcohol, tobacco, etc.  This would probably benefit most everyone, but would
be even more beneficial to the hypoglycemic.
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: RVEF80@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Martin Abresch)
Subject: Re: Dr. Martin Katahn's theory
Organization: Motorola
Date: 1 Sep 1992 09:12:54 MST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Dr. Martin Katahn's theory
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:01:49 GMT



	Can anyone provide me with details on Dr. Martin Katahn's theory
on carbohydrate conversion.  Basically, he claims that one must consume
MASSIVE amounts of carbohydrates before a substantial amount of fat
conversion takes place.  This was reported in his book, "The T-Factor
Diet."

	What I'd like to know is if anyone else has publicly attacked or
supported his claim.  Personally, I'm skeptical, and I would urge
caution to those who would consider this good reason to gobble down
thousands of excess carbohydrate calories.

	I do hope he's right though.  I've just lost about 20 lbs of
fat, which I would hate to gain back.  With school starting, I'll have
less time for exercise, so I want to be careful.

--
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.



Another "guru" of fat -vs- carbohydrate calories is Covert Baily
(author of "Fit or Fat") who you may see lecturing on PBS.
I have personally tried these methods.  You don't have to gobble
thousands of excess carbohydrate calories.  All you have to do is
graduallly shift the basis of your diet away from fat and toward
carbohydrates.  It also helps to get a fair amount of AREOBIC
exercise (basically, anything you can do for a long time without
becomming exhausted).
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Does vegetarian get enough nutrition from food?
Keywords: vegetarian
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:33:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.2tmnnxj.sss
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92Sep3.211958edt.111@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> 
    vlee@vis.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee) writes:
>
>Some friends of mine are pure vegetarian, they don't eat meat, don't
>eat eggs, nor do they try dairy food. Only vegetables.

They are *vegans* -- they probably are concerned with notions of purity,
too, but that's a different problem from the nutritional one :-)

>I doubt whether they will benefit from this diet or not.
>
>What will happen if they keep doing this for their wjole life?  
>
>Can anybody give me some idea about this? because I am also interested
>in vegetarian food.

Well, if they eat sea vegetables or nutritional yeasts, they'll get
enough B12, etc.  One of the problems is that vegetable sources of
iron are generally not well-absorbed, so female vegans are frequently
anemic.

Suggest that they take supplements, and hope that they wise up :-)
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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: vlee@vis.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee)
Subject: Does vegetarian get enough nutrition from food?
Keywords: vegetarian
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:20:06 GMT

Hi,

Some friends of mine are pure vegetarian, they don't eat meat, don't
eat eggs, nor do they try dairy food. Only vegetables.

I doubt whether they will benefit from this diet or not.

What will happen if they keep doing this for their wjole life?  

Can anybody give me some idea about this? because I am also interested
in vegetarian food.

Thanx, :)

Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Energy Per Gram?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:57:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA
Keywords: Calories, Fat, Carbohydrates, Protein

     I am in a quandry.  I would like to know the standard values for
calories per gram of fat, carbohydrate, and protein.  The following
values are from three sources (books) that I read and my own computations
based upon the "system of linear equations" concept from linear algebra.


                Protein  Carbo   Fat

                  Cal     Cal    Cal
                 ----    ----   ----
                 Gram    Gram   Gram

 Source 1        5.65    4.1    9.45
 Source 2        5       4      9
 Source 3        4       4      9
 Computation 1   4.806   4.423  6.888
 Computation 2   7.381   3.809  4.524
 Computation 3           3.809  8.912
 Computation 4           4
 Computation 5           4.167


     I based Computation 1 on the following foods:

                                      Cal  Protein   Carbo     Fat
                                           (grams)  (grams)  (grams)
 Low-Fat (2%) Milk        8 Oz.       140    10       13        5
 Aust. Toaster Biscuits   2 Biscuits  400    10       64       10
 Peanut Butter            2 Tbsp.     180     9        6       16


     I based Computation 2 on the following foods:

                                      Cal  Protein   Carbo     Fat
                                           (grams)  (grams)  (grams)
 Rice Krispies            2 Cups      220     4       50        0
 Hi-C Hula Punch         12 Oz.       160     0       42        0
 Bread                    2 Slices    160     6       28        2


     I based Computation 3 on the following foods:

                                      Cal  Protein   Carbo     Fat
                                           (grams)  (grams)  (grams)
 Hi-C Hula Punch         12 Oz.       160     0       42        0
 Miracle Whip             1 Tbsp.      70     0        2        7


     I based Computation 4 on the following food:

                                      Cal  Protein   Carbo     Fat
                                           (grams)  (grams)  (grams)
 Welch's Grape Juice     12 Oz.       240     0       60        0


     I based Computation 5 on the following food:

                                      Cal  Protein   Carbo     Fat
                                           (grams)  (grams)  (grams)
 Hi-C Fruit Punch        12 Oz.       200     0       48        0

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From: Grady W Chism <gchism@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: accuracy of nutritional labelling
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:07:32 GMT

John you are not likely to find any such survey in Consumer Reports because it 
would be very expensive to do a good job of determining this. The numbers on 
labels are rounded significantly and need only be 80% of the stated value for 
naturally ocurring nutrients.  There can be substantial differences from year 
to year and crop to crop.  Storage temperature will also affect some vitamins. 
Most manufacturers are relatively conservative in their claims.
-- 
Grady W. Chism                     Email:gchism@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Dept. of Food Science and Tech.    Voice:614-292-7719
Ohio State University              FAX:614-292-0218
2121 Fyffe Road, Columbus, OH 43210
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From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Good basic book on nutrition
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:12:03 GMT

In article <17upsgINNehk@agate.berkeley.edu> jaffray@zippy.sonoma.edu writes:
>I'm looking for a good basic non-fringe book on nutrition, comprehensible
>to a random like me, and up-to-date and accurate.  Also practical (i.e.
>describes how matters of nutrition affect a proper diet, not just
>"this substance can have these effects").  Suggestions?

I'm partial to Jane Brody's "Good Food Book" as well as her book "Nutrition"
which is a collection of articles she wrote for the New York Times.

The Tufts Guide to Nutrition by Dr. Jean Meyer is also very readable.

[ Note, these refs are from memory, please feel free to correct my errors. ]

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: helen@spss.com (Helen Smith)
Subject: Re: Good basic book on nutrition
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:17:17 GMT

In article <1685687F3.M21444@mwvm.mitre.org> M21444@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.191743.4680@spss.com>
>helen@spss.com (Helen Smith) writes:
> 
>>
>>In article <17upsgINNehk@agate.berkeley.edu> jaffray@zippy.sonoma.edu writes:
>>>I'm looking for a good basic non-fringe book on nutrition, comprehensible
>>>to a random like me, and up-to-date and accurate.  Also practical (i.e.
>>>describes how matters of nutrition affect a proper diet, not just
>>>"this substance can have these effects").  Suggestions?
>>>
>>>-- Alan
>>
>>EATERS CHOICE by Dr. Ron & Nancy Goor.  It's about 3-4 yrs. old...was originally  written as a response to high cholesterol problems.  However, I
>have
>>found
>>it to be so useful, especially as far as controlling fat in the diet.  There
>>are also recipes.  The only people I would not recommend this book to are those
>>who have to limit their salt.  The book does not deal with that, and indeed,
>>some of the recipes are a bit on the salty side.
> 
> 
>I bought Eater's Choice a few years ago and liked it.  However, I found
>it dealt mainly with saturated fat, not overall fat consumption.  The
>Goors have put out another Eater's Choice book recently, has anyone read
>it?  Is it an updated version of the first book, or does it contain
>completely different, yet complementary info?  I did flip through it
>and noticed that a lot of the recipes looked the same.
> 
>I don't know if I'd consider it a comprehensive nutrition book, in
>any case, but then again I haven't read it in a while.  I would
>recommend it for anyone who's interested in reducing their fat intake.
> 
>Chris

This is Helen again.  The Eaters' Choice I mentioned IS the newer one.  The
only difference is that they added many more recipes, and additional details
on nutrition.