HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Subject: Re: mail2news patch for mailing to multiple newsgroups
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:07:54 GMT

In article <BtAqnE.H7p@rice.edu> cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes:
|In article <1992Aug20.160152.23976@becker.GTS.ORG> bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) writes:
|
|>	That way when followups occur they go to the
|>	list, rather than what often happens in a mail
|>	reader, where the "From: " line ends up pointing
|>	to the original submitter.
|
|Alas, I was going to use this hack.  But it doesn't work well with C
|News.  B News rewrites article headers into mail headers when
|forwarding a posting to the moderator.  C News sends a subjectless
|mail message, from the news account, which contains in its body the
|news article body and headers.  This is not something you want to send
|back to a mailing list.  The particular mailing list where I was going
|to do this involved an application that bounced Subject-less messages,
|and I doubt it's the only one.


	I'm not sure how you end up with this behavior -
	the mailing list to news management methods I
	described work well under both B & C news.


	Managing a mailing list that's remote to your site
	as a newsgroup is a different process than managing
	your own mailing list in which a newsgroup is involved.


	In the latter case, the newsgroup is not moderated.
	In the global mail aliases file, one separates the
	mailing list email address from the list of members:


		mylist:		"|sendtonews mlist.mylist"
		mylist-real:	aaa@bbb.ccc
				ddd@eee.fff
				ggg@hhh.iii


	and in the news "sys" file, make a fake site entry:


		mylist:mlist.mylist/all::rmail mylist-real


	(in fact "mylist-real" could reside on another system).


	Email to "mylist" gets injected into the newsgroup,
	while all newsgroup traffic gets forwarded to the
	members of the maiing list.


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "We want the worm, and we want a cow!"
 _< /_	 	- More Jimison, ordering drinks for his table
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Help transmitting articles with Cnews (please :)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:25:23 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <66569@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5870c@prism.gatech.EDU (Noah White) writes:
>...I have a crontab entry which runs nntpsend.sh however it doesn't seem
>to be working...
>
>gatech/gatech:to,comp,git/usa,world,git,ga:f:gatch/togo

Two or three things wrong here...  For one thing, for NNTP you want to use
the F flag, not f, because nntpsend does not like the extra information
that f puts in.  For another, nntpsend looks for the files in (as I recall)
/usr/spool/news/batch/<site>, not /usr/spool/news/out.going/<site>/togo.
For a third, you'll need to use the full Internet host name.
-- 
There is nothing wrong with making      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
mistakes, but... make *new* ones. -D.Sim|  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
Xref: sparky news.software.b:2847 news.software.readers:1731
From: barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett)
Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: relaynews vs the "threaded" newsreaders
Date: 1 Sep 1992 10:47:10 GMT
Organization: Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

In article <Btp4Jv.H9r@world.std.com>,
geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) writes:
> Given a database that permits quick (dbm-style) lookups by message-id
> or article file name, and that contains at least Message-Id: and
> References: header data and article file name for each article, could
> trn do everything it currently does?  (I'm assuming that spending a
> little time assembling linkages in core upon group entry is
> acceptable.)

Please also cache anything that folk are likely to request via XHDR,
such as Subject: and From:.  Then the NNTP server could respond to XHDR,
XTHREAD, LISTGROUP etc. with readily available data.  (I seem to recall
a post by Eliot Lear several months ago, in which he reported grafting
a variant of nn's database into nntpd for this purpose.)

Once XHDR is cheap, newsreaders might choose to use it in their
kill-file processing (consider an rn kill pattern like /^Newsgroups:
.*alt\.flame/h).  Once newsreaders do that, the set of headers that
benefit from caching would be enlarged.

--apb
Alan Barrett, Dept. of Electronic Eng., Univ. of Natal, Durban, South Africa
RFC822: barrett@ee.und.ac.za             Bang: m2xenix!quagga!undeed!barrett
Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.software.nntp
From: tim.g.thompson@att.com (Tim Thompson)
Subject: Re: Announcing the release of InterNetNews
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:20:50 GMT

In article <ROB.92Aug27115427@hanalei.berkeley.edu>, rob@violet.berkeley.edu (Rob Robertson) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Aug27.153600.16881@cbfsb.cb.att.com> tim.g.thompson@att.com (Tim Thompson) writes:
|> 
|>    What sort of authorization is in NNRP? Does it make use of an nntp_access
|>    (or similar) file, providing host-level authentication and authorization
|>    (in a loose sense), or does it do anything on a per-user basis?
|> 
|> it does both.  per user/group access is accomplished with username/password
|> pairs in the nnrp.access file.  
|> 
|> the format of the file is:
|> 
|> #
|> #       hostname:perm(read/post):user:pass:groups
|> 
|> regular expressions work for hostnames and groups.

Thanks for the answer. However, how is it implemented? Is it based on 
the way user-level authentiation is done in NNTP 1.5.11? 

From nntp.1.5.11/server/auth.c:

       /*
	* Simple user/password authentication
	*
	* client must supply "authinfo user <userid>"
	* followed by "authinfo pass <password>"
	* which will be looked up in the server machine's password file.
	* Password must match userid, userid must have gid matching the
	* /etc/group entry for "nntp"
	*
	* note that passwords travel over the network in plaintext.  This
	* can be a problem but isn't easy to remedy.  At least it's as safe
	* as logging in over the network would be
	*
	*/

Is this the way authentication works in NNRP?

(I know, I should just get a copy of the code and look at it myself, but
if the question is readily answerable. . .)

					Thanks,
					  Tim Thompson
					  tim.g.thompson@att.com
From: vaxmith@rks.se
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Write-access problem when adding news-items
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:54:53 GMT
Organization: RKS Data AB, Vaxjoe, Sweden

Hi folks!
I have a very strange problem. From time to time I get write access error 
in newsskim when adding items (an example is below). No other batches that 
can interfere with this one. The only thing I noticed was a NNTP-server 
process (a news-client). Can this be the problem???
The version of NEWS is V6.1 

An example of the error follows

Add <052DCE714ABFC0C81E@sb.hhs.dk> comp.os.vms	
Error: Add - Cannot open output file NEWS_DEVICE:[comp.os.vms]11708.ITM
: JUNK (Cannot open output file (write access))
Add <052DCE714ABFC0C81E@sb.hhs.dk> junk
Add <6863.714929296@dbc.mtview.ca.us> comp.mail.mh
Add <0095FAD5.765EF380.23889@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de> comp.os.vms	
Error: Add - Cannot open output file NEWS_DEVICE:[comp.os.vms]11709.ITM
: JUNK (Cannot open output file (write access))
Add <0095FAD5.765EF380.23889@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de> junk
Add <01GO15DW2CPE9EDHKB@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> comp.os.vms	
Error: Add - Cannot open output file NEWS_DEVICE:[comp.os.vms]11710.ITM
: JUNK (Cannot open output file (write access))


Is there a solution to this????

Thanx in advance!

-- Michael


________________________________________________________________________
Michael Thurbin                 |    E-mail: vaxmith@rks.se
RKS Data AB                     |    Phone.: +46 470 47060
Box 209                         |    Fax...: +46 470 48976
S-351 05 Vaxjoe, Sweden         |
________________________________|_______________________________________
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: RE: Editing headers in ANU-NEWS
From: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Date: 31 Aug 1992 08:32:30 +1000
Reply-To: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

> Me too.  The flexibility I've wanted is to edit the "References:"
> header.  There's someone out there that is trying to make their
> references info neat, so that it covers more than one line, instead of
> wrapping around.  NEWS won't read any header more than one line.
 
NEWS will correctly scan headers which comply with the
RFC on this - i.e. continuation lines of headers must commence with
whitespace.
 
You should not need to edit the references header as far as I can see.
 
(if you really want ultimate flixibility connect to port 119 of
the server and drive it manually ! )
 
Geoff
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: READ/NEW/FOLLOW bug?
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:22:10 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Aug28.154201.925@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>,
 ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
>I've got a problem with the way READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP works. If the current item is
>not new, or has been skipped, the command displays the first new item in the
>newsgroup.  However, if the current item is new, it is displayed instead of the
>first new item in the group.
...
> Is this the way it's supposed to work or is this a bug?  I'm currently running
> 6.1B1 although I saw this behaviour in 6.0-3 as well.

Yes, that is the way it is supposed to work, at least that has been
the behavior since about V5.7 or so. I, for one, like it that way. If
you don't want to read the current article, then SKIP it, or position
to a SKIPped article, or go to the top of the directory display.
-- 
USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045
E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Invalid command file generated from control message
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:09:54 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

I just received an interesting control message for bionet.announce.  The
command file that was generated and mailed to USENET didn't seem to jive with
the control message.  I'm including the entire message below - hopefully can
explain just what should have happened...

$! Generated Command file from newgroup message:
$! use EXTRACT/NOHEAD then execute this file
$!
$ NEWS/NOSCREEN
Set NEWSGROUP "bionet.announce"/NOMOD
Set NEWSGROUP "bionet.announce"/HOLD
EXIT
$! Control message follows:
$!
$! Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.1 24/02/92 VAX/VMS V5.5; site galaxy.gov.bc.ca
$! Path: bcsystems!ubc-cs!utcsri!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!shibumi
$! Newsgroups: bionet.announce.ctl
$! Subject: newgroup bionet.announce moderated
$! Message-ID: <Aug.26.14.17.31.1992.25920@genbank.bio.net>
$! From: shibumi@genbank.bio.net (Kenton A. Hoover)
$! Date: 26 Aug 92 21:19:16 GMT
$! Control: newgroup bionet.announce moderated 
$! Distribution: bionet
$! Organization: GenBank Online Service
$! Approved: shibumi@genbank.bio.net
$! Lines: 9
$! 
$! This newgroup is being resent to remind bionet sites that bionet.announce is a
$! MODERATED group.  To get messages into bionet.announce, please send them to
$! bionet-announce-moderator@genbank.bio.net
$! 
$! Thank you
$! | Kenton A. Hoover                                 |                          |
$! | BIOSCI Network Administrator (bionet newsgroups) |    shibumi@presto.ig.com |
$! | GenBank/IntelliGenetics, Inc.       415 962 7300 |  shibumi@genbank.bio.net |
$! |=============================================================================|

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Write-access problem when adding news-items
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:36:44 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <Btp4xE.L7E@cs.psu.edu>, fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.105453.13836@rks.se> vaxmith@rks.se writes:
> |I have a very strange problem. From time to time I get write access error 
> |in newsskim when adding items (an example is below).
> |
> |Add <052DCE714ABFC0C81E@sb.hhs.dk> comp.os.vms	
> |Error: Add - Cannot open output file NEWS_DEVICE:[comp.os.vms]11708.ITM
> |: JUNK (Cannot open output file (write access))
> 
> I got this often when the directory could not be extended because of
> fragmentation.  Go to NEWS_DEVICE:[comp.os.vms] and try CREATEing a file,
> and see if that fails.

I had this happen once when I had too many files on the disk.  The mess it
makes is not a pretty sight - you'll have some articles that have been added to
the index file but for which you have no file.  When you try to read the
article, you'll get an error along the lines of "no message text" (I can't
remember the exact message - it was a while back).  I saw all this under 6.0-3
and haven't seen it since.  

You should go through and do a complete verification of your news database.  It
will take a while but by now your system will be in such a mess that you'll
really have no choice.

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
From: newsmgr@exodus.valpo.edu
Subject: Help needed setting up server
X-Posted-From: exodus.valpo.edu
Organization: Valparaiso University
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:25:23 GMT
X-Posted-From: exodus.valpo.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I am having a lot of trouble setting up ANU-NEWS as a server. 
Basically, I am having trouble understanding what is going on with all
the command files and the programs to transfer news.  As I understand
it, there are 3 ways of transferring news.
	MAIL based transfer
	NNTP_XFER and NNTP_XMIT transfer (where my node initiates using NEWNEWS
            and IHAVE)
	NNTP_SERVER  (where the remote node initiates using IHAVE)

Is this correct? Now, using method 3, is all that is left to be done in batch
mode the SKIM commands?

If anyone could help me out here, I would really appreciate it.  I would
also really appreciate someone who could give a little time and guide me
through this when I get stuck.  We are running TGV Multinet and our
system manager is too busy to do this, so it has fallen to me, a
student, to take care of this.

Thanks in advance,

Eric Vaandering
newsmgr@exodus.valpo.edu
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: skim/add concurrently?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:03:01 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Aug27.115013.130@logica.co.uk>, leesw@logica.co.uk writes:
> Having just taken on a full feed, I'm finding that the daily SKIM takes 
> about 16 hours to run, which doesn't leave enough time to add the new items!
> Is it OK to SKIM concurrently with ADDing new items?  This seems to work,
> and gets around the problem - but I'm worried about corruption creeping
> in.

I suspect that you're running with too many options on your daily skim run.  I
ran into this at first as well.  Here's what I currently have in my daily
procedure:

$ if Today .eqs. Convert_Day
$ Then
$ 	news61 /noscreen Skim /NoFileCheck/Files/Directories/NewsGroups
$ Else
$	news61 /noscreen Skim /NoFileCheck/NoFiles/NoDirectories/NoNewsGroups
$ Endif

One of the key changes is the /NoFileCheck qualifier.  If you read the help on
SKIM, it even warns you that is a slow process...

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: RE: Moving items from one group to another
From: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Date: 02 Sep 1992 08:22:29 +1000
Reply-To: Geoff Huston <G.Huston@AARNET.EDU.AU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

 > I'm having problems trying to move news items from one newsgroup to the
 other.
> My original idea was to use EXTRACT/ALL to save the items into a file, then
 use
> ADD BATCH to dump the items into the new newsgroup.  This procedure resulted
 in
> one large item containing all the articles in the new newsgroup.
 
The Path: headers will cause news to junk the items
 
If you want to go down this track you'll need to edit the extracted
file and edit the Path: and Newsgroups:  headers to ensure that the
add will work.
 
 
> Is there any
> other easy way to do this other than extracting each item individually and
> adding each item?
>
> I'm using VAX/VMS 5.5 and ANU NEWS V 6.0.
 
I put in the command CROSSPOST in 6.1 to make this easier - but it
works on an item at a time - not entire batches
 
 
Geoff
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Editing headers in ANU-NEWS
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:28:50 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Aug29.203739.1@acad3.alaska.edu>,
 fsars@acad3.alaska.edu (Allen R Sparks) writes:
> Me too.  The flexibility I've wanted is to edit the "References:"
> header.  There's someone out there that is trying to make their
> references info neat, so that it covers more than one line, instead of
> wrapping around.  NEWS won't read any header more than one line.  If I
> think references are important, I'd like to be able to specify that.

NEWS handles continued References: headers just fine, assuming you
have a fairly recent version (ie, 6.0-3 with Bill Glass patches.)
There shouldn't be any need to edit them manually, and doing so could
easily break some "threaded" news readers.
-- 
USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045
E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444
From: ake@dayton.saic.com (Earle Ake)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: News 6.1 B3 newsbuild.com fix
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:06:43 EDT
Organization: Science Applications Intl. Corp., Dayton, Ohio

	There is a problem with the News 6.1 beta3 newsbuild.com.  There is
a new routine called cache_hash that is written in macro.  In newsbuild.com,
it tries to use the /opt qualifier!  Here is the diffs to correct this problem.
Last time I checked I didn't think macro was subject to optimization.


*** newsbuild.com;130
--- newsbuild.com
**************
*** 1366,1372
  $     set def [-.news_src]
  $     write sys$output "$ ''p2'/nodebug ''p1'"
  $     if p2 .eqs. "CC" THEN $ cc/nolis/nodebug/opt/object='objcomp 'p1
! $     if p2 .eqs. "MACRO" THEN $ macro/nolis/nodebug/opt/object='objcomp 'p1
  $     set def [-.news_build]
  $     purge 'objname
  $ makedun:
--- 1366,1372 -----
  $     set def [-.news_src]
  $     write sys$output "$ ''p2'/nodebug ''p1'"
  $     if p2 .eqs. "CC" THEN $ cc/nolis/nodebug/opt/object='objcomp 'p1
! $     if p2 .eqs. "MACRO" THEN $ macro/nolis/nodebug/object='objcomp 'p1
  $     set def [-.news_build]
  $     purge 'objname
  $ makedun:


-Earle
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           ____//   / / /__                 Dayton, Ohio
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From: vaxmith@rks.se
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Write-access problem (no solution but more info)
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:26:28 GMT
Organization: RKS Data AB, Vaxjoe, Sweden

Thanks for the suggestions with my write-access problem. To describe it a 
more the problem just occurs between midnight and 1 o'clock in the morning.
No other batch-jobs are running that can affect this. The disk may be a 
littlebit fragmented but it's no problem to create new files on the 
directory [news.comp.os.vms]. Before and after items are added with No 
problems so I'm not sure that the problem in the disk-fragmentation-area.

-- Michael


________________________________________________________________________
Michael Thurbin                 |    E-mail: vaxmith@rks.se
RKS Data AB                     |    Phone.: +46 470 47060
Box 209                         |    Fax...: +46 470 48976
S-351 05 Vaxjoe, Sweden         |
________________________________|_______________________________________
From: rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: News callable editor interface.
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:42:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug24.131850.314@hhcs.gov.au>,\
 makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin) writes...
> This is not really a bug, more a change that broke something I was doing.
> 
> I used to have ANU-News call TPU with an init parameter.  My
> login.com had this;
> $   define	news_edit		"tpu/init=sys$login:kcminit.eve"
> 
> For 6.1a1 and below this used to invoke callable tpu.  I've now
> switched to 6.1b1 and, of course, it tries to spawn to a command
> procedure called tpu.com.  It appears Geoff (or someone)
> tightened up the callable editor code between these versions.

      I'm the one who changed that code, in order to eliminate some
redundant code and to be able to link successfully when compiled with
GCC.  I don't have time at present to go in and figure out how to fix
it, or even check whether this warrants a fix.  Have you tried setting
up the editor in your NEWS profile instead of via a logical name?
That may or may not work better in this case...

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu
From: aivano@condor.ycc.yale.edu (Sandy Aivano)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Recommend process quotas
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:15:32 GMT
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)

I'm running NEWS 6.0-3 on a VAX 4000.  I'm accessing newsgroups on a remote
machine via NNTP.

Are there recommended/minimum process quotas for running news in this fashion?

******************************************************************************
Sandy Aivano                                 Aivano-Sandra@Yale.EDU (Internet)
Yale University                              Aivano@YALEVMS (Bitnet)
Computing & Information Systems              203-432-6619
******************************************************************************
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: news/netserver problem
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:48:24 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep1.141446.3677@vax.muskingum.edu>,
 cchess@vax.muskingum.edu (Bryan Hess) writes:
> I am able to see the newsgroups and the number of articles, but when I go to
> read them, they are all erroneously reported as empty. when I do a dir/all, the
> newsgroup names are preceeded by an underscore and a space... "alt.this.that"
> becomes "_ alt.this.that." The problem seems to be with ANY news since 
> newsreaders from PCs and macs work without a hitch. 

The most likely cause is that you don't have read access to the
server. Check on the system where the nntp server resides and make
sure that the entry in nntp_access say you have read (or both) access,
not xfer. The "_ " before the newsgroup name simply indicates that the
group doesn't reside on the local system, but is being accessed via an
nntp server.
-- 
USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045
E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444