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From: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Wierd Dream...
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:21:35 GMT
Reply-To: dougm@hal.com (Doug Moran)
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.; Campbell, CA
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In-reply-to: jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Michael Santore)

In article <segLOXy00WBNA7eYxb@andrew.cmu.edu>, jsbh+@andrew (John Michael Santore) writes:
>>I was a reporter interviewing Manon Rheaume for my newspaper.  (I don't
>>work for a newspaper, I'm not a reporter, and I don't even play one on
>>TV.)  She was telling me all about how much she enjoyed the backup
>>goaltender job for the Lightning.  (So she made it!  I don't remember
>>who got the starting job, though.)
> 
>How's THIS for a weird dream... about two nights ago (actually I was
>sleeping in the afternoon) I dreamt I went to the Flyers-Pens opening
>night game on Oct 6 and Ron Hextall and Steve Duschene (and although
>I've seen pictures of them, I doubt I could recognize them in real life)
>were there...  We had seats nearby.  I hung out with Hextall, but
>Duschene stayed in his seat... it was really strange to wake up from
>THAT.....

Last season I dreamed that I was a winger for the Sharks, but nothing
really exciting happened as the entire dream took place during a
practice.  It was just one of those incredibly realistic dreams (down to
the feeling of sweat under the pads and the shooshing sound of the
skates over the ice) where you wake up and wonder where the hell your
stick is, and then realize that your a tech writer, not a hockey player.

I scored a goal in the scrimmage by bouncing a shot off Pat Falloon's
shin, too!
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Must be fun being a Bruins fan!!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:36:33 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <farenebt.716503774@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell) writes:
>iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:

>>For those of you simple minded Bruin fans who will reply,
>>keep in mind that I am NOT a canadiens fan. So try to come
>>up with some good arguments (bande d'epais - a little
>>french for you Americans)
>
>Of course you're not a Canadiens fan. Most Canadiens' fans, while I 
>dislike their team, may overrate their team but they usually have enough
>class not to berate the other teams' fans. Perhaps you are a frustrated
                                                              ^^^^^^^^^^
>Buffalo or Hartford fan? Again, since you are not one of the "dummest"
^^^^^^^^^^^
>fans in hockey (as we Bruins' fans are) then why didn't you capitalize
>the teams name, Canadiens?

Watch it, Bri.  (seethe, glare, etc.)  Your words may easily come back
to haunt you.




-- 
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SUNY at Buffalo ASCIT Consultant for yet another semester (sigh). 
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From: frnk@cs1.bradley.edu (Paul Ondercin)
Subject: Re: Pens news 9/4
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  8 Sep 92 17:33:04 GMT


>>I'm sure the Pens bashers on this net can think of a lot of names to call
>>the mascot...:-)  That's why I posted the address.
>And I get chastised for baiting gln.  Since a Penguin FAN has already
>suggested Dork for the mascot's name, what do you expect from the
>bashers...
   Pssst! We DON'T want a mascot!

	 Frnk! :>
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   Now, that's a *MAN's FLUSH!*          - Al Bundy, commenting on new toilet.
From: iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Must be fun being a Bruins fan!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:36:32 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

- must fight rats inside the Garden
- make playoffs each year but never win cup
- have never had a great American born player
- cheapest GM in hockey
- goal judges are biased
- Ray Bourque, one of the great defenseman of all time, but 
  no Stanley Cups
- Guy Lafleur scoring big goal in 78 final
- petr Klima scoring big goal in triple overtime in 89 final

- Jay Miller losing fight against door in 86 playoffs
- do not have the team to compete with rest of the league (92-93 edition)
- farm team is short on good young talent
- Bruin fans are among the dummest in hockey;(they litter the
 ice for no reason) 
- They cannot get it into their heads that they don't have what
  it takes to win the Cup
- ugliest uniform in hockey


For those of you simple minded Bruin fans who will reply,
keep in mind that I am NOT a canadiens fan. So try to come
up with some good arguments (bande d'epais - a little
french for you Americans)
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From: chrisl@balsam.ppc.ubc.ca (chris lynch)
Subject: Re: Other ex-Rangers (Was: Red Wings/Ogrodnick)
Organization: University of B.C. Pulp & Paper Centre
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:34:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.154451.1956@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
|> SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
|> >
|> Monday's New York Times Sports reported that Normand Rochefort has
|> appeared at the Hartford Whalers camp.  With Rochefort, Weinrich,
|> and in nets Pietrangelo and Burke, the Whale might have a decent
|> shot this year after all ...

It looks like B. Burke has kept up his work ethic and is building a team like Quinn (mostly) and he 
put together in Vancouver. (ie size and toughness to back up skill and speed) Also, I guess the
owners in Hartford are giving Burke a long leash as Hartford must have made as many or more moves
as anyone since last season. I think Hartford fans may have something to look forward to this year.

Chris
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: John Ogrodnick (Was: Red Wings)
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Deep Space Nine
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:22:56 GMT

bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) writes:
>SGLENN@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>
>>After my first posting about the Wings Training Camp, a new
>>player showed up in camp....John Ogrodnick.
>
>I've never understood why Ogrodnick was treated so shoddily by the
>Rangers. Wasn't he amoung their leading scorers two years ago??
>Didn't he have to fight to get a contract from them last year??
>At least they were good enough to release him.

Early last season, Neil Smith was pretty adamant about signing John
Ogrodnick, but Smith and Neilson probably did it to make an example of
him as he was making a lot of free agent noises (well, the press was
anyways).  The talk was that they'll send him to San Jose' while he
was still worth something, to reunite him with Kisio and Mullen, but
that never came through.  Ogrodnick was essentially being paid to do
his stockbroker's exam while attending practices and playing a few
games (including the final playoff matches against the Penguins).

gld
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:06:57 -0400 
From: Gary James Patalsky <gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Pens signs Straka


The Pittsburgh Penguins signed their first round pick, center Martin
Straka, to a multiyear contract.  Terms were not disclosed.  Straka is
expected to make the team.
From: chrisl@balsam.ppc.ubc.ca (chris lynch)
Subject: Gino can read
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: University of B.C. Pulp & Paper Centre
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:47:12 GMT

I found it interesting that Gino Odjick has arrived at the Canucks' camp twenty pounds lighter than last
year and I believe he even scored three goals in a recent scrimmage game. Guess Gino can read the
writing on the wall, as he sat out practically all the playoffs last year, the Canucks just didn't need an
enforcer/bonehead-penalty-taker. I think he (and other tough guys in the league) MAY find the only
way to stay in the league is if they can bump, grind and pot the more than occasional goal(~15).
<Hey the guy scored on a penalty shot and breakaway last year!> 
Unfortunately for Gino, he's not a very good skater and unless he's able to improve, he may not last 
much longer.


Chris 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Red Wings
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:40:51 GMT

In article <92Sep14.120922edt.144@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) writes:
>
>>After my first posting about the Wings Training Camp, a new player
>>showed up in camp....John Ogrodnick.  After being released by the Rangers,
>>he is looking to catch on with a team and is hoping to earn a spot on the
>>team.
>
>I've never understood why Ogrodnick was treated so shoddily by
>the Rangers. Wasn't he amoung their leading scorers two years
>ago?? Didn't he have to fight to get a contract from them last
>year?? At least they were good enough to release him.
>
>He might not make it on the Wings because they have to fit in 
>a pile of youngsters, but I wouldn't count him out.
>
>I find it interesting that he would surface
>in Detroit. If he were just looking for a job, I'm sure he would
>have called Bridgeman in Ottawa or Esposito in Tampa. They need
>talent more than Detroit does.
>

Ottawa and Tampa are on a budget...Ogrodnick probably wants to
be paid like a real player, and perhaps also wants to play on
a SC winner.

Gerald

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: pgdmills@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Deryck Mills)
Subject: Re: Lindros's Linemates?
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:18:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.145125.15078@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>In article <4eh92j600WBME1zV9f@andrew.cmu.edu>, Etan Shalom Diamond <ed16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> Hey, does anyone know who will be playing alongside Eric Lindros for the
>> Flyers this year?
>> 
>> Etan Diamond
>> 
>
>
>Anyway, I would expect Lindros to be teamed with Recchi and either Lomakin
>or Eklund. I think Lomakin is the better playmaker, but who knows. The
>second line should be Brind'Amour and Dineen with any left wing other than
>Boivin. They worked well with Pederson last year, but I think Eklund and
>Lomakin are better. Tough call right now. That's going to put a decentu
>playmaker on the goon line with Brown and probably Kasper.
>
>pete clark jr - r.s.h FLYERS contact
>

On Sat & Sun, Lindros was teamed up with Recchi & Eklund for there
scrimages.  Lindros scored on his first shift (8 secs in) and another one
4 minutes later. He seems to a a nasty wrist shot from just inside the blue
line.  He seems to have been shut down besides those two shifts, although
they were only twenty minute scrimages.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Red Wings
From: rFd2001@mailserver.bgsu.edu ( Ryan Dickey)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:32:19 GMT
Organization: BGSU

Anybody out there want to debate?
I say the Wings will beat the Penguins in the Stanley Cup finals come early spring.
Yzerman will be a 50-goal scorer, as well as Federov.
With Howe on D with Lidstrom, and Chevy kickin' pucks and the power-play of:
Yzerman, Federov, Carson, Ciccarelli, and Lidstrom, I think they'll wrap it up early.
Any takers?
-Ryan at Bowling Green St. U.-

"Theeth guyth are thuper!"--Bryan Murray

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From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Training Camp Roster
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:39:35 GMT

Sharks training camp will open this Friday, and run through October 3.

GOALIES:	Wade Flaherty, Jeff Hackett, Brian Hayward, Arturs Irbe,
	Dan Ryder, Dennis Sproxton
DEFENSEMEN:	Mike Colman, Link Gaetz, Victor Ignatjev, Duane Joyce,
	Dean Kolstad, Rick Lessard, Pat MacLeod, Jayson More, Sandis Ozolinsh,
	Tom Pederson, Mike Rathje, Claudio Scremin, Ryan Smith, Michal Sykora,
	Neil Wilkinson, David Williams, Doug Wilson, Rob Zettler, Doug Zmolek
CENTERS:	Mark Beaufait, Perry Berezan, Dale Craigwell, Dean Evason,
	Troy Federick, Kelly Kisio, Brian Lawton, Hubie McDonough, Jeff McLean,
	Larry Olimb, Jaroslav Otevrel, Mike Sullivan, John Weisbrod,
	Ray Whitney, Dody Wood
LEFT WINGS:	Don Barber, Eric Bellerose, David Bruce, John Carter,
	Craig Coxe, Larry DePalma, Gord Frantti, Johan Garpenlov, Tim Hanus,
	Alexandr Kholomeyev, Jean-Francois Quintin, Petri Skriko,
	Dave Snuggerud
RIGHT WINGS:	Ed Courtenay, Pat Falloon, Robert Gaudreau, Mikhail Kravets,
	Jeff Massey, Jeff Odgers

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: spiegel@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel)
Subject: Re: Sharks vs. Kings at Arco Arena?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:23:51 GMT

In article <92254.31500.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>In <1992Sep09.225245.4223@ecst.csuchico.edu>, Bob Dickman writes:
>
>>Has anyone heard anything about this game?  Tickets? When? How much?

	Game is on Sunday, September 27th
>
>If the Sharks and Kings are playing in Sacramento, it's a pre-season game.
>The Sharks will be playing two regular season games in Arco Arena.  They will
>be against the Rangers and the Canadiens, I believe.  I'm assuming you'd have
>to go through normal distribution channels (Sharks ticket office/BASS outlets?)
>to get tickets for these events.
>
>Does anyone know if the Sharks games in Sacramento (or any "neutral-site" game)
>are included in the season ticket package?  I don't think they are.  Would that
>leave 15,000 or so tickets for sale to the general public?

	Season ticket holders have been given first crack at the seats for
	the games.  Sharks have sent us a package deal for all 3 games. 
	Prices were about $30 per seat.  At some time soon I expect tickets
	will be made available to the general public, probably at the same
	time that individual game ticket sales start.

	Mark
	108/K/8
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Poll results: best young players
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:01:35 GMT

Who are the top 3 young players in the NHL?

Just a few notes, these results are not final. If someone wants to vote,
I will continue to count. Also, I belatedly realized that Jeremy Roenick
had played 16 games more than 3 years but I don't remember who voted
for him (so I could ask them to re-vote), so I just kept Roenick in 
the poll. Please bear that in mind.
 
NOTES
---Young player defined as anyone who has played at least 1/2 but no more
than 3 seasons in the NHL.

---First place votes in ()

==========================================
#  OF VOTERS: 13
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Forwards:
Jaromir Jagr		22	(5)
Sergei Fedorov		18	(3)
Pavel Bure		12  	(2)
Jeremy Roenick		9	(2)
Pat Falloon		5	(1)
Tony Amonte		2
Kevin Todd		2
Gilbert Dionne		1
Martin LaPointe		1

Defense:
Niklas Lidstrom		15	(4)
Eric Desjardins		10	(1)
Rob Blake		7	(1)
Mathieu Schneider	6	(2)
Derian Hatcher		5	(1)
Scott Niedermayer	3	(1)
Vladimir Konstantinov	2
Mikhail Tatarionov	2
Paul Stanton		2
Igor Kravchuk		2
Scott Lachance		1

Goal:
Ed Belfour		19 	(5)
Tim Cheveldae		8	(2)
Felix Potvin		6	(2)
Mike Richter		6
Dominick Hasek		5	(1)
Dominic Roussel		5	(1)
Rick Tabaracci		2
Jeff Hackett		2
Peter Ing		1
Bob Essensa		1
Stephane Beauregard	1
Craig Billington	1
Curtis Joseph		1						
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:58:03 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Penguins '92-'93

  Hi all you Penguins fans and non fans (the ones that hate our team.)  Hey,
us Pittsburghers can take some ctiticism (It's A Burgh Thang), but you other
Patrick Division fans owe us a little bit more respect.  After all, we are the
two-time defending Stanley Cup Champions.  No matter how good or bad you are in
the regular season, it's the playoffs that count.
  As a season ticket holder, we've suffered a lot.  There are some fans that
joined the bandwagon these past few years, but some of us have gone through
those 18 win seasons B.L (Before Lemieux)  The Penguins have always had some
talent, but until these past few years, we've been very unfortunate.
  To non-Pens fans, you can rip on our new logo or the fact that we don't have
a coach, but give our players a little more respect.  Jagr is going to be a
legend someday - (Sitting 15 rows up, game 1 finals, I saw Jaromir go through
not one, two, three, but FOUR Blackhaws to single-handedly tie the game.  Mario
 called it the 'greatest goal he's ever seen'  Who knows what the 'greatest'
goal ever is - that's debatable - but it had to be one of the tops ever!)  And,
 yes, Mario, in my opinion, is the greatest ever to play the game.  If it
wasn't for his back, his stats would quite probably be at the top.  Even if you
 disagree, you have to put Mario up in the class as one of the 5-10 greatest
players ever to play the game!  Be honest!  And Tommy's a damn good goaltender
 - not the best - but certainly good enough and could be one of the best if he
would play consistently over the course of the season.
   The truth is the Penguins have enough talent and motive to completely
dominate the regular season and playoffs.  The key word here is HAVE.  Whether
they'll do it or not is another question!  But, here are my predictions in the
Patrick Division this season :

    1. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS.  SHOULD do it.  Remains to be seen.
    2. New York Rangers.     You'll love Phil.  He's a believer.  You'll be on
                             our backs every step of the way.
    3. New Jersey Devils.    One of these years, they'll pull through.
    4. Washington Capitals   My 2nd favorite team in the division.  I'm glad
                             Dino's gone, though!  I never liked him.
    5. New York Islanders    One year away from the playoffs.
    6. Philadelphia Flyers   Gave up too much for Lindros.  5-6 years away from
                             Lord Stanley.  Trust me - my fellow Penguins fans
                             know what I mean!!!!
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From: v124p7kk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Darryl S Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Fantasy Hockey
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Anyone run a fantasy hockey league out there??  I'm planning on 
doing one this season, and this was my plan: 15 players; 2 centers, 2 lw,
2 rw, 4 d, 2 goalies, 3 wild card (1 of which may b a goalie)... 
the stats i plan on usin r: for skaters, goals, assists, plus/minus, shooting
pct... for goalies, points (from wins and ties), gaa, save pct...
	Any ideas on how to improve on this (or what stats u use)??

	thanx...

darryl brooks
u at buffalo
From: carrie@wpi.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Islanders training camp
Date: 14 Sep 1992 00:36:33 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: who's invited?


Hi...

  Does anyone have the list of players attending the Islanders
training camp?

Thanks, 
Carrie
carrie@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Personnel Updates
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:47:15 GMT

Defenseman Mike Rathje, the Sharks' 1st round pick of 1992, will report to
training camp despite the fact that he still doesn't have a contract, and he
hopes to sign a lucrative contract with an impressive showing in camp.

Left winger Johan Garpenlov, right winger Jeff Odgers, and defensemen Neil
Wilkinson, Jayson More, and Link Gaetz are entering their option seasons, and
have until tomorrow to sign new contracts, file for arbitration, or declare
that they are playing out their options.

Gaetz, who suffered severe injuries in an automobile accident April 2, has
been cleared to participate in the training camp.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: CAPS NEWS
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:15:48 GMT

In article <arbogastw.10.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
>
>
>The long-rumored Kevin Hatcher deal is still just that.  Terry Murray 
>insists that Hatcher is not available.
>

So I guess the Caps hopes rest with Pat Peake and Steve Konawalchuk
instead of Steve Yzerman then, but Hatcher and Iafrate will be old
men by the time they are stars...the Capitals, the team that always
builds for tomorrow, and for whom tomorrow never comes.

Gerald