From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Re: the most equitable economic system
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:56:46 GMT
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x551_003@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
> Capitalism works ????!!!!?????

you sound surprised...

> Capitalism is an international system, the fact it buys you a
> car, a house and a reasonable jobs proves nothing. Even the fact
> that your town/country/continent is ok proves nothing. However

who cares what it proves. it allows me to provide for my needs.
that's all i ask.

> 1.  Capitalism has been unable to develop at all a significant part
> of the world.  many countries still suffer from periodic famines
> and rely entirly on the export of cash crops.(I would argue this
> in fact is part and parcel of capitalism brother Imperilism)

names please? i'm willing to bet that any such countries you can
name owe their problems primarily to corrupt governmental controls
or internal conflict.

> 2.  Capitalism has left many countries including my own
> underdeveloped.  We currently have an unemployment rate
> of 20%++ and 1/3 of our population lives below the
> poverty line.

again, what kind of capitalism are we talking about? what role
has the government taken? you might be less capitalist than
you think. the US certainly is less so than many people here believe.

> 3.  Capitalism (of the market variety) has been unable to develop
> the Eastern European economies.  They were crap under state 
> capitalism they are closing down under market capitalism.  Even 
> Germany, one of the most vibrant capitalist economies has failed so 
> far to develop Eastern Germany to any significant extent.

you've given it a lot of time to work, haven't you?

> 4.  Capitalism is still prone to periodic crisis.  The latest one 
> shaking the worlds economies at the moment demonstrates how little 
> control anyone has over the beast once it runs amok.

get this: the real world is a chaotic system. all efforts to change
that fact have failed miserably, and always will.

> 5.  Capitalism still cause wars that result in the slaughter
> of millions of working people.  Iraq was just one example of this, 
> there are countless others.

no, what started the war in Iraq was greed. last time a checked
that wasn't a capitalist monopoly. what -ended- the war in Iraq
was the forces of capitalism.

> 6.  Capitalism divides one section of our class against another
> and hence maintains the oppression of women,racism and other
> oppressions.

no, silly, simplified views of humanity is what divide one "class" 
against the other. where exactly do you draw the line between
"upper" and "lower" classes? and why should the fact that one
person has more money than another mean that the former is
necessarily evil? it's generalizations such as this that hurt
minorities that don't fit into the mold.

> Need I go on. !!!!

no. you need a few moments to get the foot out of your mouth.

> My views do not reflect my employers

damn good thing, as businesses that aren't capitalist profit-mongers
don't stay in the black for very long. :^)

jason

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