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From: dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM (Dave Carter-Sun-Atlanta GA-Atlanta District MCC)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Announcer's call of NLCS
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:14:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM
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I think Atlantas commentators are great, except for Chip Cary.
Commentators that suck: METS they never say anything, and when they
do you wish they wouldn't.


In article 18081@athena.mit.edu, chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston) writes:
> In article <1992Oct15.145350.22462@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver) writes:
> |> On ESPN this morning they replayed Skip Caray's (sp?) call of the final hit.
> |> Unfortunately I was on the phone and didn't quite get it at the beginning
> |> it started out like:
> |> Her'e's the pitch. It's lined into. One run scores. Here comes Bream...Here comes the throw...HE's SAFE!!!!!
> |> and then the part I remember:
> |> 
> |> "THE BRAVES WIN THE PENNANT!...THE BRAVES WIN THE PENNANT!...THE BRAVES WIN
> |> THE PENNANT!...THEN BRAVES WIN THE PENNANT!...THE BRAVES WIN THE PENNANT!!!!"
> |> 
> |> Hmmmmmm, sounds familiar?
> What else would you expect from those announcers?  The collection of braves
> commentators has got be the most pathetic on earth.



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From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Alas, Pirates
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 OCT 92 15:30:30 GMT

Poor beautiful Drabek, he fought as hard as he could.

Congratulations Braves.

GO BLUE JAYS!!!!

Heather
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu

Do you think if Mike LaValliere's arms were just a *little*
longer, they could have had Bream at the plate...?
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: SF offer for Giants
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:54:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1992Oct14.225423.25136
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

aaron@juliet.caltech.edu (Packman, Aaron I.) writes:

>Oh, I also hope that there won't be any lawsuits over this.  Unfortunately,
>I think there will be one brought forward by the eventual losing city.

If my recollection is accurate, the last time such a suit was brought it
was by the city of Milwaukee to stop the move of the Braves to Atlanta.
The suit slowed, but did not stop (obviously), the move by one season.

-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
     Your shame is neverending. Just one psychological drama after another.
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From: kev@fred.Berkeley.EDU (Kevin Eckert)
Subject: Announcer's call of Cabrerra's hit
Keywords: Atlanta, Pittsburgh
Organization: UC Berkeley, University of California Berkeley
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:46:42 GMT


	For anybody in the Atlanta or Pittsburgh areas,
could someone post how the local announcers called Cabrerra's 
pennant winning hit?  The Atlanta call would be especially
interesting; i.e. did the announcer totally lose it.

-kevin

"There's a long fly to left ... it could be ... 
THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!  THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!
THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!  THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!
THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!"  -Russ Hodges, 10/3/51

Xref: sparky rec.sport.baseball:29191 soc.culture.japan:8613
From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japan Central League
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:23:15 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo


Masuda-san(masuda@ncifcrf.gov) e-mailed to me;

>> 
>>   Yajima-san;
>> 
>>   Would you be able to post or e-mail the schedule of the remaining games?
>> 
>>   Thanks.
>> 
>> --Michiaki


 The schedule of the remaining games of the Japan Central League is;

             7         8       9       10         11      
Tigers     Swallows  Dragons   X      Swallows   Swallows  

Swallows   Tigers    Carp      X      Tigers     Tigers

Giants     Whales      X       X        X          X

Carp          X      Swallows  X        X          X

Whales     Giants       X      X        X          X

Dragons       X      Tigers    X        X          X

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From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Subject: Bus Tours for Baseball
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:51:34 GMT

This summer I was at Comiskey Park and saw a tour bus in the parking lot that
said Baseball Tours.  Does anybody out there know of a company that does bus
tours of major (and minor) league stadiums or other baseball interest sites ?
I don't remember the name of the tour or the phone number, but any information
about this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
				---Mark
From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Lesley Visser (Was: Jim Kat...Announcer with great insight.
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:08:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvaac.1992Oct13.210849.12062
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

>In article <1992Oct09.183230.29112@sco.COM>, erics@sco.COM (eric smith) writes:
      
|> |> And I wish CBS would just can the "human interest" stories from Lesley
|> |> whatever-her-name-is.

Hear hear! Dump Leslie Visser, as well as her male-bimbo counterpart in the
other playoffs (I can't remember which bimbo is doing which league). At
least we have achieved sexual equality in the bimbo derby. They are both a
waste of time.
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  paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511

    home: 3006 NW McKinley    Corvallis, OR 97330       (503)-752-8424
                            A SABR member since 1979
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Oakland 1-up
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:02:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21057
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Just wondering about the As win yesterday. A bad pitch from Morris
negates all the ggod work of the jay hitters.

I thought that the Jays will try to take both their home games
to be 2-0 and also to give them a mental lift. Obviously, losing
Game-1 has not helped them and I hope Cito and Co. go ahead
forgetting this game.
It is now or never for the Js.

S.H
Twins forever.
From: mad4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Maddex)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Sandberg on all time list at 2B?
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:10:11 GMT
Reply-To: mad4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Pranksters for Peace

I know we've had this argument before, but the last time I didn't kill it was
two years ago, and Ryno's had two great years since then.  I've done a fair
amount of work on this at this point, and it seems to me that he can now
be legitly compared to the best for peak value.  In this comparison I have
him second, behind Morgan but ahead of Hornsby, Robinson, Collins, Grich and
Lajoie.  I'll try to get around to posting my statistical reason for this
later, but for now I'll say this: Offensively he's a bit behind most of these
guys, but only a bit, and ahead of some, but defensively he's way out in 
front of most of them, and is the only one but Collins to play 150+ games
every year.

After '90 James suggested that if he had two more years like his big three
he'd move to the head of the list, and guess what?  I really wonder how many
guys w/his defensive value can say Ryno's numbers from '89 were their fifth
best season?  I noticed in the paper a few weeks back that he'd tied 
Gehringer's record for most years w/>500 assists, so his D seems still
to be right up there.  He's also now second (to Morgan) among postwar
infielders for most yrs w =>100R.   He seems quite likely to grab a whole
bunch of 2B career records as well, so maybe people here will stop bitching
about his contract.  Right, and maybe the Cubs will styart getting people
who reach base.  NOT.

MADNESS
From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The Ex-Cub Factor
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:51:48 GMT
Organization: Our Lady Of The Stand-Up Triple

In article <1992Oct9.113654.10314@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
 (in reference to my post about the ex-Cub factor)

|>   Good one, dumb ass 

|> ***************************************************************************
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|> @leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu		     |	In the desert, the planet Dune
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Oh, I do *so* look forward to the fall, when the latest batch of all-knowing
freshmen are turned loose on the internet.

Excuse me for being prickly. It's early Sunday morning and I haven't had my
minimum daily requirement of caffeine yet, but really, is there any need for
this kind of remark?

--->Paul, resident net.old-fart
	  (obligatory slam of Richard Nixon and Iron Maiden left as an 
	   exercise for the reader)
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              If you're really hip, the passing years will show.
                                           ......Tower Of Power

  paula@koufax.cv.hp.com   Paul Andresen  Hewlett-Packard  (503)-750-3511

    home: 3006 NW McKinley    Corvallis, OR 97330       (503)-752-8424
                            A SABR member since 1979
From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Weird day at the ballparks
Date: 13 Oct 1992 19:58:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <m4mpfkb@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)  
writes:
> [stories of 'called' home run shots deleted - referring to Alomar's ALCS  
Game
>  4 blast]
> 
> Hah! I have you all beat.  Tom Goodwin, center fielder for the ABQ Dukes  
and
> LA Dodgers, had three HRs in about 1300 at bats for his minor league  
career.
> 
> Opening night of 1992, Goodwin came to bat against the Las Vegas Stars.  I
> turned to my roommate and said, half in jest, "I feel it.  Goody's going  
deep."   [stuff deleted]
> home run.
[stuff deleted]
> Later in the week, I go to another game with my roommate.  Goodwin gets up 
> to bat, and Nate and I share a laugh, remembering the "call" of Goodwin's 
> homer the last time.  "What I wouldn't give to see that again!" says Nate.  
> Next pitch. Another drive to the wall, and Goodwin gets his second inside 
> the park HR of the season.

My turn! My turn!
The announcer: Bob Uecker. The year 1983. The event 'The Brewers' homerun  
inning'. (Money is given to a fan if a Brewer hits a homerun).
There hadn't been a winner for a long time and quite a bit of money had been  
built up. At the beginning of the inning Uecker said "this is it" 
"There'll be a home run today" . There was. The next day, Pat Hughes (His  
partner) tried to get him to repeat the prediction but Bob just said
"Nope. I don't have the good feeling today". 
That was the only time all season that Uecker predicted a homerun.
 [In anticipation of a certain question: Yes.]
So he was 1/1 with his predictions. Small sample size, but still good.

My 'best event' came when I went to my first ball games at Denver. 
My friend and I went Friday night. Up came a Zephyrs outfielder.
(rats. forgot his name. i *used* to have a memory.) 
The scoreboard flashed his seasons totals : 0HR, 60AB. 
I told my friend. "He's due to hit one". He did.
Later that game he hit another (OK... I didn't call that one).
On Monday, we went back to watch the Zephyrs again. 
Up came the OFer. The pitcher was getting a little tired (But I think he  
still had a shutout or 1run game going) so I told my friend
"He could hit another on here." HR#3 followed.
At the end of the year I checked his stats. He hit 3HR at Denver. 
I'd seen two games, all of his homers and called 2 of the 3.
One of my better efforts. Or, as my dad always says
"Pure skill, `ell-you-see-kay', skill"

seeing, hearing
john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: mattc@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Matthew Chandross)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: baseball trivia
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:12:25 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

i was just looking through the final standings in the sporting news the 
other day and i noticed that there was no team in either league that won 
or lost 100 games this season.  has this ever happened before since 
divisional play began?  interested in finding out...

e-mail or post, i dont care.

thanx in advance!
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From: colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: Chop and chant
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:55:37 GMT

In <71414@hydra.gatech.EDU> re4@prism.gatech.EDU (RUSSELL EARNEST) writes:

>In article <colinm.719180414@cunews>, colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
>>   I think that the chop and chant may not be as effective as a
>> rowdy cheering crowd when that 10th man is needed.

>Thanks Colin, we'll try that next year.  Maybe the game will have a more 
>exciting ending.

Sorry, I didn't mean that the bottom of the ninth wasn't one of the most
exciting finishes ever just that the chant and chop isn't as
exciting as 45,000+ cheering fans (IMHO).-- 
Colin McFadyen -- Carleton U. Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6                  
colinm@ccs.carleton.ca

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From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Re: Braves in Fulton for '93?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:25:19 GMT

ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU writes:

>While watching last night's game, I began to wonder now that the Georgia
>Dome is finished, will the Braves play their games there in '93? What is
>the status as far is Fulton County Stadium is concerned?

The Braves will play in Fulton County Stadium until after the 1996 Summer
Olympics.  Then, they Olympic Stadium will be converted to baseball use (this
is being covered in the design) and the Braves will move there.  Once the move
is completed, FCS will be demolished to create parking space for the new
stadium.

- Jonathan
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Hovercraft Mandibles Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eck Chokes Again!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:37:48 GMT
Organization: Regretting The Canseco Trade, Unlimited.

>Dan Swartzendruber writes:
>>J. "It's time for cake!" Exby writes:

>> go back a little bit and see who set the AL record for saves dolt.
>> sure aint the eck. 

True enough.  It was Bobby Thigpen, in 1990, with 57.  However, he was
neither the best reliever in baseball that year, nor the second best.
Therefore, why should he receive any Cy hype or MVP hype?  He blew 8
saves in addition to saving 57.  57/65 isn't bad, but it's not
world-beating, either.

I give you Bobby Thigpen, 1990:

		G    IP    H    HR    BB    K    SV      ERA
Thigpen '90    77    88    60    5    32   70    57      1.83

And a couple of guys who I consider to be superior.  One of them was
FAR superior.

Eckersley '90  63    73    41    2     4   73    48      0.61
G. Nelson '90  51    74    55    5    17   38     5      1.57

In fact, I would surmise that Nelson's excellence that year prevented
Eckersley from getting more save opportunities.  You can call Eck a
choker all you like.  I don't buy choking in the slightest.  But I
will say this for Eckersley - he's gotten us there.  If the team
hasn't won everything in sight, it's not his fault.  I'm relatively
content with 4 division titles, 3 pennants, and a World Series win in
a five year span, thank you.  Sure, I'd love to do better, but
considering that I used to consider Ray Burris a #1 starter, I'll
certainly take it and run.


>I didnt hear Thigpen getting any MVP / Cy young
>> talk in his great year.  media builds up whomever they are
>> fond of at the time it looks like...

I heard it.  Where were you?

>> I dislike him so much because he's part of the "a's with the attitude"
>> problem.  he, ricky and dave stewart irk me.

They also have this nasty habit of winning.  Or they did, when they
were younger.  All are, or were, among the best players at their
positions for an extended period of time.  Whether you like them
matters approximately as much as whether you like me, or like watching
Lithuanian Rules Pork Fencing on ESPN.  (I think it's on after
Saturday Night Thunder.)

>> and if the WhiteSox aquired eck I be rooting for every other 
>> player on the pitching staff except him.

So would I.  If the White Sox acquire him, I would hope he'd blow a
solid 10-15 saves per year, and insisted on pitching past the age of
42.

Sorry you don't like the "A's with the attitude," Doc.  But suck it
up, and move on.
-- 
*    Gary Huckabay    *            What's on my CD player?           *
*  "Glipper.  Plotz.  *                                              *
*  Tworg.  Arnk. Oog. *   The shrunken, salted head of Jimmy Hoffa.  *
*  Blik. Han. Glvnk." *                                              *
From: z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Regarding Merced being tagged out at the plate
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:43:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccsvax.1992Oct16.134317.1529
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Was it just me, or was Berryhill blocking the plate without the ball when
Merced was tagged out at the plate? He looked to be standing right over the
third base line *well before the ball arrived*. Merced should have gone through
him rather than around him -- maybe a few more injured catchers, and umpires
will realize that they need to start calling catchers for blocking the plate
without the ball rather than letting them get by.


Brandon Cope

ps. No, I'm not a Pittsburgh fan.
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: HELP!  NL Stats Needed DESPERATELY!
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 04:00:27 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <18021@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Flannel Is A Religion Huckabay) writes:
>HELP!  Donald Hearth's posted stats only halfway made it to our site!
>I only got the AL stats!  I NEEEEEEEED the NL stats, pronto!  Could some
>kind soul PLEASE mail them to:
>
>zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu
>

Don't worry folks...I just sent him a copy (so hopefully he won't get more than
a dozen copies...

For anyone else who needs them, they'll be up at wuarchive within a couple of
hours (so they'll be up by the time most of you read this...)


-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
Keeper of the R.S.BB FAQ, and Junior Stathead {tm} * Maintainer, R.S.BB Archive
Be kind. Don't flame the mediots. * Look, stupid comments are funny!'-R. Lustig
I'd rather see Doug Dascenzo pitch than suffer through John Burkett's batting..
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Morris: more fuel for this debate
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:53:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.041014.21290@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.154242.2351@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>>4 additional losses is a lot.

>>Ya know, I really don't believe there's THAT much difference to the team.

>Ya know, an MVP is only worth at most 8-9 games.

Really? Ya know, I really think Denny McLain or Bob Gibson in '68 might have
been worth  a little more than that over, say, Joe Niekro.

>>>In addition, I was assuming he would get the same number of decisions that he
>>>got in Toronto.  The Angels bullpen blew a few for the Abbmeister.

BTW, the Angels had one of the better pens in the AL for saves conversion.

>>Why not run your PT with the number of runs given up in each game (0, 1, 8, etc)
>>instead of his overall ERA.
>
>I don't have those numbers, unfortunately.
>>
>>BTW, how did Abbott's record come out when you ran HIS ERA/Run Support through?
>
>10-12.  However, as I said, the bullpen blew a number of leads for the
>Abbmeister.

Really? Well maybe. But the Angels as a team had the third lowest number of
blown saves. They also had the 3rd best save conversion rate. But hey, maybe
they blew 'em all on Abbott.

Mike

-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
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