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From: John.Ogilvie@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (John Ogilvie)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Help with artic 3.04 on s
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:03:47 GMT
Reply-To: John.Ogilvie@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23324

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

DA>I have installed Artic Business Vision 3.03 and 3.04 on several IBM
DA>PCs and PC Clones over the past year.  On six of the PC Clones I
DA>have experienced a problem with  cursor lock-up when using the
DA>inverted T cursor pad in WordPerfect.

     Do you know about the /M1 switch which is in the BV.BAT file that
     comes with the system.  This can cause trouble on some systems,
     especially when using memory management.

     What you should try is changing  the line in the BV.BAT file

     \ARTIC\VISION\BVISION /M1 to:
     \ARTIC\VISION\BVISION /M3

     Also re-create from scratch any configurations that were saved under
     the /M1 switch.  In other words, if you use the old configs even
     after making the change, you will still have problems.

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From: Karen.Winnett@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Winnett)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: DOGS AND LANDLORDS
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Winnett@f11.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/11 - The Broken Rose BBS, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23191

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi,

When I moved into my new apartment last September, I was soemwhat
surprised when the managers of the complex demanded a two hundred
dollar pet deposit for my Guide Dog Toby.

I informed the managers that I believed the law prohibited them
from levying a deposit against a dog guide. Shortly thereafter, the
management told me that the property owners informed them that they
could, for a fact, charge a pet deposit for a dog guide and then
did charge me a two hundred dollar deposit for Toby.

After speaking with the social department at Guide Dogs for the
Blind here in California, I was informed that they believed
although it was in very poor taste, the owners of my aparytment
complex most certainly could charge me a pet deposit for my Guide
Dog. So, of course, I figured that was that and I paid that two
hundred bucks.

Yet, going through the California Civil Code concerning itself with
dog guides, it very clearly states " No extra charge can be levied
by a public accomodation, common carrier or landlord because of the
dog guides presence.

This civil code applies to housing including all property for rent
or use except private single dwellings of no more than one room. (I
live in a three room apartment.)

So how is it that I can be charged a pet deposit for a dog guide
being present in my home when California Civil Code says that a
landlord cannot levy any such extra charge? Also, why does the same
Civil Code make it very clear that even though such an extra charge
cannot be levied, just the same, the dog guide user is responsible
for any damage done by the dog guide.

Is this all a matter of legalese word play that I am not
understanding? Any thoughts on this subject?

Keepin' the faith!

.                           Vixen

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From: Al.Smith@f281.n351.z1.fidonet.org (Al Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Epilepsy
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:18:27 GMT
Reply-To: Al.Smith@f281.n351.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:351/281 - <Second Chance, Nanaimo BC

Index Number: 23273

 >     My wife started having problems with seizures
 > after she had her stroke.
 > They put her on dilantin first, then switched her over
 > to tegritol because of
 > some diverse side-effects.

Hi Rick, I hope your wife is feeling better now.Because My wife
Janis is almost finnish the process of switching over to tegretol
fron dilantain. She seems to be improving (with age)The main side
effect that I found out about when I was on dilantain and tegretol
together is that my liver is 3 times what it should be . But now
that I have had the surgery(no more seizures ) I feel great.If
there's anything you want to know (i'm no doctor) don't
hesitatateto drop me a line. Catch you later, Al

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From: wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blind loyalty and censorship here
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:43:44 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
X-Fidonet: None

Index Number: 23468

There's been quite a bit of discussion about the NFB lately,
particulary in regards to the article, "Blind Loyalty".

There was also a question raised as to why Blind Loyalty
did not appear here on in the Fidonet Blinktalk conference
and whether there was any censorship involved.

On the Fidonet side, very large articles such as the Blind
Loyalty article, 31,000 bytes long, are generally frowned up.
Many of the mailers cannot handle an article that long so
the article needs to be split up, in this case, into
about 6 or 7 pieces.  Since many Fidonet sites limit
the number of messages in any conference as opposed to Usenet
where generally the date is the determining factor, if
many people begin sending large articles, then "regular"
articles will be expired very quickly.

I have obtained a copy of the Loyalty article and am posting
it to misc.handicap and the Handicap Digest but am not passing
it to the Fidonet side.

This article will also be available for anonymous ftp
from handicap.shel.isc-br.com.

                                Bill McGarry
                                (203) 337-1518

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From: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jamal Mazrui)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re:
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:04:05 GMT
Reply-To: Jamal.Mazrui@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23402

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Stew!  I agree the organized blind movement would be more effective
if NFB and ACB were united as one organization.  The major strength of
NFB is ists strong, positive philosophy of blindness whereas the major
strength of ACB is its strongly democratic and grassroots process of
participation.  Perhaps if NFB grows more democratic and ACB develops a
more long-range philosophy, the two organizations will see each other
as less far apart and merger negotiations could take place.
Unfortunately, I don't think this will happen in the forseeable future,
but I hope it can sometime.

Regards,

Jamal

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From: Carla.Campbell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Carla Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Punctuation and Speech
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:08:55 GMT
Reply-To: Carla.Campbell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23415

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

DA> She has a KPR and uses its DEC-Talk for speech with her
 DA> computer.  She has tried both Artic businessvision and JAWS.
 DA> She doesn't like the way it reads.  She says it doesn't sound
 DA> natural.  She doesn't want to pronounce the punctuation marks,
 DA> period coma, etc., but she does want the system to pause
 DA> noticably, breaking up things into sentences.

Hmm... I haven't heard Jaws and Artic BV with a DECTalk, so I'm hard
pressed to know how much (or little) they do pause at punctuation.  I do
know that those settings are a *pain* to change on the DECTalk, even if
your software will allow you to use them without overriding the DECTalk
settings.  I also remember that a lot of DECTalk/Flipper users used to
say that they liked the way Flipper handled inflection and pauses better
than any other speech software with that synthesizer.  I don't know if
that still holds true, but I do remember it pausing rather nicely with
Flipper and it might be worth her looking into a demo copy jsut to see
if it does what she want it to do.

There's also a "pass through all ASCII characters to synthesizer"
setting which allows you to bypass Flipper's control of some speech
parameters.  If the natural Flipper pause weren't enough and you could
figure out the stupid escape codes to use to re-define the DECTAlk
pauses, this *might* help by allowing the DECTalk control of how the
".", "," and so on are pronounced.

                                                --Carla

... Read what I mean, not what I write!

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: spanish
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:27:09 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23363

If you want to get into a course on spanish that
will give you an instructor; Braille books, and tapes to work
with then there's only one answer.  Contact:
The Hadley School For The Blind
700 Elm Street
Winnetka, IL  60093
And sign up for the course and you're on your way.
One other feature of Hadley courses is that they're
correspondence courses.  This means you're going to have to
work harder than you ever thought was possible since you have
to answer *every* question since you're in
a class by yourself.  The benefit to this hard work is
that you will know spanish better than any other muchacho on the block and
be able to use it more effectively too.

The only other better alternative is to get $50.00; get on a plane and
put on a parachute fly over Mexico and jump out over a section that's
not visited by tourists and try to survive for six months.
I promise you you'll learn spanish real fast that way.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: Mark.Reynolds@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Reynolds)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: ADA Violation
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:16:30 GMT
Reply-To: Mark.Reynolds@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/123 - The General Alarm, La Mesa

Index Number: 23265

*** Quoting Leslie Donovan to All ***

LD> OK, you all, I've recently experienced first hand a violation of
LD> my rights under ADA.  Here's the story.

LD> I would have to take a driver's test because my disability

Isn't driving a PRIVILEDGE in every state?  I didn't think anyone
had a RIGHT to drive, without passing ALL the rules of each state.

In California, anyone who suffers a single fainting spell loses
their license.  Is that violating their "rights" under ADA?

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From: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Adaptive technology for computers
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: rbarth%ka3ovk.uucp@uunet.uu.net (Dick Barth)
Organization: ARS W3HWN

Index Number: 23366

> From: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu (Tua'n Sutherland)
>
>   I am interested in finding out if anyone can tell me in
> general where I can find out about adaptive technology for
> computers.  I am interested in special hardware and
> software that enables sight impaired or other physical
> impaired people to use computers.  I welcome anyone's
> comments or information they can give me.  I would like
> to hear personal stories telling me what kind of special
> modifications they may be using.
>

A rather lengthy file called "HEXINF.E" can be read in the INFO area
of the HEX BBS.  It provides a lot of exactly this sort
of information.  The HEX is available on:
                301-593-7033 (TDD and 300 baud ASCII)
                301-593-7357 (300-2400 baud, MNP5)

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From: Patricia.Bregman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Patricia Bregman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Georgia tech
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:51:35 GMT
Reply-To: Patricia.Bregman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 23370

Someone thinks there is a market in adaptive devices for
the home that are also attractive. A woman who opened one
of the earliest bath boutiques in Ontario - the kind with
trendy sinks, etc., has just opened a bath boutique for
accessible bathrooms - it has swing away sinks to accommdate
wheelchairs, etc. There is even a soft tub that is more
comfortable and not slippery, with all kinds of holds, etc.

The only problem at the moment is probably cost (I haven't checked
out the prices, but knowing where she is located they have to
be)  But, like everything else, I suspect others will soon follow
suit. It is not just the ADA and similar legislation that spurs
this but the reality that more people need some type of
accessibility aids in their house.

Ikea has also been very involved in designing accessible
kitchens.

Good luck.

MJ>Flying high,
MJ>
MJ>Marilyn
MJ>
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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Guide Dog For Deaf-Blind
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:55:03 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23202

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

You should contact the people at Guiding Eyes For The Blind at
Yorktown Heights New York.  While I was there getting my dog we had
a fellow there with his dog for some refreshing training.  This
fellow was deaf and blind and they had no problem working with him
and his dog.  That was in August 1990 so I am sure that they could
handle getting you paired up with a dog.

        D. T.

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From: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Nls And nfb
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:59:16 GMT
Reply-To: gcampbel@ecst.csuchico.edu (Gary Campbell)
Organization: California State University, Chico
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23358

Hi Carol.  Re: Arkenstone reading books.  That depends on the book.  I
am scanning books for college.  These are computer science hardcover
books, but in saying that they are Computer Science books I must also
include a warning that this only works if the book has a lot of normal
text, and not a lot of math and special signs.  I use the Optacon on the
occasional diagrams or if I need to know the exact syntax.  I have
scanned a few paperbacks, and once you figure out how to flatten the
binding enough it can work pretty well, but you do need to learn how to
get everything lined up right, and some books work better then others.
I am using a technique for text books where I scan odd pages upside down
(and even pages right side up) and then combine the files with a set of
macros I've written for my editor (Microemacs 3.11-- if anyone wants
them and understands that they weren't written for distribution and
aren't documented they're welcome to them).  I do this rather than use
the Arkenstone's interleaving feature for doing double-sided pages
because I can set the orientation when I do the recognition in batch
mode (with scanall actually); also I can recover from errors like
scanning the same page twice or skipping a page easier that way.  Hope
this helps.
From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: splitting of newsgroups
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:58:29 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)
X-Fidonet: None

Index Number: 23241

On  7/23/92 James Kiser <kiser@taronga.com> said:
>...
>I have Cerebral Palsy and I only read misc.handicap occasionally
>because of the time it takes to get through all the articles for
>the ones of interest to me.
>before I saw them.

It sounds like you are reading the misc.handicap newsgroup. Why not
try Bill's Digest distribution. That way you can see a menu of
everything that's in the issue you are reading at the outset. Most
editors will allow you to skip to a desired point in a file with a
minimum of keystrokes.

>I think a split is long over due and while we are at it, how about making
>it unmoderated?

Let's not. Bill McGarry has done, and is doing, an *outstanding* job.
I run four newsgroups and I know how demanding that job can be.
Like the old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman
From: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Saus)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Let's get started
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:05:54 GMT
Reply-To: Arthur.Saus@p160.f72.n376.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:376/72.160 - Windows of the Worl, Columbia SC

Index Number: 23335

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hello Linda!

15 Jul 92, Linda Cummings writes to Arthur Saus:

 LC> Thank you for clearing that up for me, I appreciate it.  Now, on to the
 LC> "what *can* help me?"

This may not be intentional, but now you are asking for a diagnosis
and therapeutic recomendations over the net.  This is impossible!
The answer to that question must be worked out by you and your
doctor.

Arthur

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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Sneak preview!
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:45:51 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23302

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

David Tanner writes:

 DT>         Well, let me say this for IBM.  Late as they are releasing Screen
 DT> Reader for OS2, they are at least tackeling the
 DT> problem.  Now, that is a lot more than can be said for
 DT> MicroSoft.  Windows 3.0 was released over a year ago

Well, just to be fair,  all of the access packages have their
advantages and disadvantages.  I'm not claiming that IBM's Screen
Reader is the best solution for everyone.  Different people
certainly have different needs, and different solutions appeal to
different kinds of people.  You brought up the point that the
profile language is difficult to learn, and I won't argue with
that.  It does provide a very configurable system, and I think it's
one of the most powerful on the market.  I haven't had a chance to
try JAWS since they added the macro capability, but I have used
earlier versions of it, and I've tried the demo of Flipper.  All
the access systems that I've seen are top notch and all the
companies involved deserve praise for their efforts.

MicroSoft and Windows is another story, of course, but there are
people working on that environment too, and it looks like at least
SynthaVoice has made quite a bit of progress.

The point here, of course, is that eventually things do get done.
Years ago people were saying that blind people couldn't use
computers at all.  That changed, and now there are a variety of
products to choose from.  Then they said that a graphical user
environment couldn't be used by blind people.  OutSpoken for the
Macintosh proved that wrong, and now we're starting to see more
products aimed at precisely that product.  Hang in there, and keep
fighting for the way that you know things should be.

/Greg

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From: Brenda.Mueller@f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Brenda Mueller)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Braille Keyboard Questions
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:53:13 GMT
Reply-To: Brenda.Mueller@f1055.n261.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1055 - The Keeping Room, Baltimore MD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23374

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I didn't see any answers to your questions, so I guess I'll see if
I can lend you a hand.  Usually when people say that something has
a braille keyboard, they mean a keyboard with six keys for each dot
in a braille cell and a  space bar.  As you surmised, the
characters are produced by pressing down the appropriate dot/key
combinations.  I, personally, haven't dealt much with one-handed
operation, but then I've never had to.  I prefer  to write my
braille with both hands.  Sure, braille writers have braille
keyboards.  Whether any are out there for one-handed operation is
something I've never thought about asking.  Hope you get this
message, and I hope this helps.  Lon.Barfield@cwi.nl (L. Barfield

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From: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Figueiredo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Blind Educators
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:34:23 GMT
Reply-To: Warren.Figueiredo@f6.n3800.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3800/6 - CompuChurch (tm) IH, Baton Rouge LA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23453

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

PH>I would like to get in touch with blind public school teachers.  A
PH>blind student who is graduating this summer from Purdue University

Give Tom Ley a call at the Louisiana Center for the Blind's toll-free
number which is 1-800-234-4166. Tom is a successfully employed math
teacher in public schools. He would be glad to help out.

Warren

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Insulin injections for b
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:01:42 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23315

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello, Carl.

I realize that you may be able, in this case, to use "sighted
techniques" to measure/inject your insulin.  However, should you find
yourself needing to develop alternative techniques to measure/inject
insulin, you might want to contact Doug Boone with the New Mexico
Commission for the Blind.  He has designed/built many devices to help
blind persons deal with their insulin.

Cheers!

Mike Freeman
... ** All your movements are controlled by physics. **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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