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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:49:59 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Geekazoids

I'm just about ready to quit - if we lose power one more time (t-boomers)
don't know if thing will survive....

anyway re ggs comments about key lime pie and 3 VCR's in household..

(tried to quote, got wiped out twice, and difficult to do at 2400 baud)

key lime pie ...great!  should have some soon as think all non-conchs
are required to purchase KLP at first reasonable stop as they enter
the keys.. and *doesn't* everyone have 3 VCR's + one in their motorhome?
Oh....some people buy their own PC's...maybe I should sell a car or one of
these VCR's...nah, most are antiques anyway..someday will get modern PC -
with color even! ...and small dual-density drives!! ....and a hard-disk!!!
Right after I pay the vacation gas bill :-)

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:29:00 EST
From:         Judith_Eannarino@OCCSHOST.NLM.NIH.GOV
Subject: re: chicken shit
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>  Judith E.  *rotflmao*

Yo, Judith! Beltway bruiser! How's trix?

-abh


Yo yerself!
It appears that my little e-mail experiment worked...

Judith E.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:32:25 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Today's Trivia
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No Karen, it was on this one, but fortunately 99.8% of words-l
missed it :-)  The 0.2% appreciated it though.  Thank Ghod gopher
is offline...

G
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:37:59 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: gonadological oppression
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> Posted on 19 Aug 1992 at 02:14:37 by Jim Thomas
> hung out). This has also bothered me. Part of the answer may or may not
> be because of the applicant pool, but I suspect you are implying (and

I was trying to draw a comparison between non-native language teachers
and male feminists.  This has nothing to do w/ applicant pools.  I am
fully aware that I can never be Japanese; at most, I can be a Japanese
sympathizer.  I defend my position as a nonnative speaker my pointing
out that the group I am identifying myself w/ is students, not native
speakers of Japanese.  The most successful male teachers of Women's
Studies courses do the same thing.

A man who calls himself a feminist--it's like me going around saying
I'm Japanese.  This is the same issue as being taken for a foreigner--
I guess that is *really* why I tell people I'm American.  So they will
know that *I* know I don't have a clue.

Karen
who has now been up for longer than she was asleep. damned neighbors.
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Ken!
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:50:10 GMT


In a previous article, ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM () says:

>>
>Yeah, but where've _you_ been?!  I got back Sunday!  Hey, you were out
>there in Denver eating slabs of prime rib on EFF's travel money while
>guys drank champagne out of your shoe :-).  More to the point:
Jealous of the guys, Ken?:-) BTW- welcome home...
>1.  Why is the damned Internet so effing slow today??  You sent this
>message yesterday afternoon.
	I'm getting this via Usenet; it's even slower! <arggggh!>
>2.  What am I doing up at this hour (about 2:41 EDT)?  Having one of
>my periodic insomnia thingies, I guess, and trying to relax an enjoy
>it.  I should be in great shape by this afternoon....
	That's not insomnia; that's my usual logoff time.<grin>  It's not
insomnia until the clock says 5a.m. and I'm still awake....  You of course
are a much older person and thus need more sleep.  Someone will clue in
yyour  coworkers to pull your face off the keyboard at 4, in time to go
home....
>Ken <who may just make a pot of coffee and give up>
 Nahhhh - coffee doesn't work before 6am anyway.  Try chicken soup.:-)


-- 
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	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:59:00 EDT
From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: The D-words
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>>I don't think finishing a PhD is deserving of any kind of respect.  I was
>>just curious about why somebody would spend the time/money/effort to finish
>>the hard part and then quit when only the easy part is left.  I'm enjoying
>>reading answers to that question.
>
>Usually means they're pretty certain they're going to fail, and want to
>salvage some self-repect by saying 'I made a statement.  I quit.  I beat
>the system.'

Natalie and Graham are both right (how's that for diplomacy?).  In my
case, by the time I got around to dissertating (the favorite
autoerotic act of grad students), I knew I was going into a job market
where very few people were able to get full-time appointments
anywhere, and even lousy schools offering limited contracts were
getting deluged with applications.  So why did I finish?  Probably,
ironically, because I did _not_ have a job waiting for me which would
have left me in ABD limbo; because my wife had worked her ass off to
support us both; and because I wanted to finish the thing just to have
something to show for all the work.  Job or not, I went to that
red-brick barn where it snows 11 months a year to get that damned
Ph.D., and nothing would stop me.

Of course, yes, several of my classmates quit either after getting the
M.A., or drifted out of the doctoral program with the best intentions
in the world: "I'll get it done someday." They got as tired as I did
with the prolonged adolescent status of being grad students.  But I
don't know anyone who said "I'm making a statement" by quitting.  It
was simply a question of how much you could tolerate, how driven you
were, and what drove you.

Ken
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:11:43 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Unsubbing from the list

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:06:29 EDT Karen Kay said:
>
>P.S. Adam--the only thing stopping me is that people wouldn't say
>as nice things for me!:)))

Oh, yes, we would!  We're all family here.

Evelyn
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:18:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Giggles' News
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> Well, Gilbert Graves Giggles Smith, is it a case of no news is good news?
> Since your cryptic message last night about having *news* today, you know
> everyone has been waiting with bated breath; they have just been polite
> by not reminding you how very forgetful you are.
> Doris I. Smith

Uhhhh, what news is that?  Huh?
--ggs (who has been busy buying things at estate sales today, as if
  there were not enough stuff awaiting him in his mother's house in
  Texas.....  )
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:42:27 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: client/server question
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>client know that the server exists (i.e. how does it poll appletalk to find out

Doesn't the client usually make itself known through NBP? If you ran
InterPoll, I bet you could see the name of the server in the list of device
names. Of course, Microsoft always has to do things their own way, but I bet
even the (new! and improved!) MS FoxPro uses NBP somewheres.

Of course, I could have my head up my ass here.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:40:40 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: SCA
              12 Aug 1992 23:14:25 EDT from <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>

On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:14:25 EDT Graham Toal said:

>PS Partly the reason for the current resurgence in interest in SCA
>(and child abuse, and - believe it or not - UFO abductions) is that
>there is a school of psychiatry - dare I say a cabal - in the US which
>is pushing some notion of bringing 'forgotten experiences' from
>childhood to the surface in adult life.  There is a strong case that
>many of these forgotton experiences were actually suggested by the
>psychiatrists rather than being real memories.  Of course, the people
>going to psychiatrists are troubled people to begin with, looking for
>an explanation of their neuroses, and happy to latch on to what is
>offered.

The Skeptical Inquirer has covered some of this stuff recently as well.

Tony H.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:45:27 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Real Freshpeople
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:55:49 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> will no doubt be the first-ever college course for most of them.  What
> profound things can any of you think of that I should tell them today?

Get a good start and sail on a lifted tack?

G
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:31:57 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: the state of slowness

Absolut Bandwidth came up with:

>yes, it is slow, stultifyingly slow, incredibly so, so mcht that nzxo lk ss

I do believe Le Pig is blotto

-Mka
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Fame
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 06:35:18 GMT


In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) says:

>>
>> I don't know about the living, but I've thought that the
>> definition of a famous dead person is one whose name somebody
>> somewhere in the world mentions every day.
>>
>
>After today in the office, talking to 75 students about what class
>to take, I am a famous dead person.  I am sure of it.

Sure, they all need to take your class to graduate...so of course <urgh>
they all know your name, pander to your <ego>, and generally polish all the
apples in South Carolina in hopes that you will overlook the max class size
and overenroll them so they won't have to take the 8am section.....
Typical student behaviour, I'd say, which has no relation to the <fame> of
the teacher...

 
-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:45:45 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: I'm back! Moo ha ha!
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>10.  Colorado itself.  I loved it and can't wait to go back.  Anne, how
>did you ever leave?  We all suffered incredible headaches the first day

It was easy for me. I was there at the behest of Apple, who back in the good
 old/bad
old days of Jean-Louis Gassee, really knew how to treat its campus resellers
 right.
Once a year they would send all of us to some great place and generally bore us
 to
death with presentations about "partnerships" and "strategies" and "future
directions." But at night the animals came out to play, and that's generally why
 we
persisted in sitting through the presentations. However, by the time I went to
 the
last of these meetings, held in Orlando, I was sneaking off one morning to watch
 the
Space Shuttle launch, and a couple other times I hauled over to Disneyworld for
 some
quality time with the mouse. Saw a lot of other campus reseller types there too,
 hmmm.
And speaking of bimbos...has *anyone* ever raised the state of the art higher
 than
Apple's "Regettes?" I think not. But at the end of three days of butt-numbing
 slide
shows and having more hickeys planted on my backside by sales crows than I have
 spare
real estate for, I was very ready to come home.

-abh
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Subject: Re: On
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Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:30:05 GMT


In a previous article, birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) says:
>
>How about if we take the British usage, substituting 'queue' for 'line'
>(which, after all, makes it more obvious you're in a line for some purpose,
>and going to accomplish something by being there).  Is it 'standing in
>queue' or 'standing on queue'?  Maybe the New Yorkers are saying 'on line'
>because they spend so much time 'on hold' it seems like proper usage?

Try queued up [for something].:-)  If you're queued up, you're in a queue.
The things we pick up from British novelists, Josephine Tey in this case.
[_The Man in the Queue_, I think]

-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:04:01 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Eeek! It's fall!!!!
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

> outside has already begun to turn!!!!  Just a few leaves so far,
> but it's *VERY* early for leaves to start changing.  Reminds me

I'm getting worried.  Has anybody noticed which direction the woolly
bears are going this year?

> Karen
> who hates winter and doesn't have a Grant to keep her warm....

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     who hates winter but fortunately has Bernardykins to keep her warm...
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:48:20 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Weird stuff
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

I get those weird things from time to time and don't know what they are.
Maybe one of these days I'll get back into explore-listserv mode and try
to find out.  Probably somebody else on the list knows the answer, tho.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     logging off now to go back to work...
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:40:52 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Provokation
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Graham, darlin', I was BORN provoked. This piker is only playing footsie.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:52:56 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is this list about?
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              11 Aug 1992 20:58:25 CDT from <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

On Tue, 11 Aug 1992 20:58:25 CDT Bandwidth Pig said:
>and minds> of the list. As any veteran of Words-L will tell you, the proper
>formula is actually "Eat shit and bark at the moon."
>
>Ow-oooo!

Wellllllll, maybe down there in southern coyoteland.....but here it is
just as told above....

dan, in north coyoteland
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:52:12 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tushar's whereabouts
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> I can't help feeling that if Tushar knew how much you
> all were worried about him, he'd not like it one bit.

Why do you think he would not like it?

> This reminds me of that thread from a while back about
> who would call the list if we died. Maybe we all should

Not long ago some friends and I were talking about somebody in a nearby
town who had been discovered dead in her house after several days.  One
of them said she found it strange that somebody could have been dead for
that long without anybody knowing.  I replied that it could happen to me --
that if it was some odd time when the campus was closed and thus my
absence around the office wasn't noticed, it could easily be several
days before anybody knew I was dead.  I then laughed and said to these
non-computer-oriented friends, "On second thought, I bet somebody would
notice.  But the funny thing is that it would be nobody around here.  It
would be some of my e-mail friends."
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM! 
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:20:34 +0000


In article <#f!nmfq.karsten@netcom.com> karsten@netcom.com writes:
>N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) writes:
>> I thought a computer geek was a guy who could only count to
>> twenty one and that only with his pants down.
>You wouldn't happen to be assuming that all computer geeks are
>of one sex, would you?  Or are "guy" and "his", as used above,
>inclusive terms?
>--karsten

No, but I'm pretty sure he's assuming all computer geeks who can
count to twenty-one with their pants down are...

G
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:11:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gender
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> Maya - Bill Murray is great.  What did you think of "Where the Buffalo Roam"?
>
> G

maya, I think I must be dense.  *Why* is _Tootsie_ a sexist movie,
rather than a movie about a sexist situation?  Doesn't the really
sexist boss-guy get what's coming to him, Hoffman's character
learn something about male-female relationships (and the father
does too)?  It is, I think, pretty anti-Lesbian with all the stuff
about the woman in bed with the "woman" who makes a pass....
It portrays a sexist society, the woman who can get the role only by
being really tough and un-feminine since she is not pretty, the
younger woman who has the role because she screws the boss, and the
producer woman who is also tough and not pretty.  But is the movie's
point of view necessarily sexist?  What?  Enlighten me, I'm trying to
be a feminist sympathizer.
--ggs (who loved Tootsie and watches it often because of the funny
restaurant scene with the agent and because he thinks Teri Garr is
great, particularly when she screams at seeing Hoffman take off his
wig on camera....  and because he thinks Murray is doing one of his
best roles....)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:43:36 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      re: chicken shit
              13 Aug 1992 18:14:00 GMT from <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>

I just knew this list would get back to headless chickens.  It's time
for me to take a break.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:46:11 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Self-correcting (why not try proofing?)
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On Fri, 14 Aug 1992, torkel@SICS.SE wrote:
>   Doris says:
>
>   >while leading them to the font (trough?) of knowledge.
>
>   Haha! "trough" is exactly right. Pearls before swine!

Ah, Torkel, you hit the nail on the head!
ndh (who is aghast at the idea that classes start Monday and she is not READY)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:44:40 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender
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              17 Aug 1992 21:10:15 EDT from <ELAINE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:10:15 EDT Elaine M Brennan said:
>from making the San Francisco Words-l dinner and I are about to set
>up housekeeping, and even my mother approves, I beg off, yet once
>more, on the bimbo label.

   congratulations!  I KNEW you weren't a bimbo!

>Meanwhile, would anybody along route 74 and other likely roads between
>San Francisco and Providence like some traveling words-l company the
>week of August 30?

   Well, we're kinda outa theway, but if you take the northern route,
you can find boise on most maps.  Assume you'll mainly do i-80....have fun.

you WILL then go thru the 7 letter "cheyenne's abode"

dan
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:28:00 MST
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIPP

>What is PP?  Puerto Pe~nasco?  Yes?  Si'????
>--ggs
PP?  Si, si!  But, shouldn't your tilde be on the other side, you
voyeuristic, skinny-dipping, little nitpicker, you?  Anyway, even the natives
and Los Incorruptibles call it Rocky Point...  And I call Autoroute Ocho the
Road To Hell...  Ah, well, the camerones mignon were delicious - they steam
them by simply placing the plate of raw shrimp on your table while you have
a pitcher of margs.  8-)  And Manny's has a non-smoking area when the tide's out
...

Juanito Seco
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:08:10 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gender

Hey, Karen--if you were really in pedant mode you'd have mentioned that
gender distinctions in languages are *grammatical*--they have almost
nothing to do with gender as in sex.  Girls in Kraut are neuter;
men in polish have feminine endings (I can't wait to see the
response to that) but call for masculine agreement of verbs and
adjectives; and then there are all the things in all the
languages that are sexless but sexed grammatically.  The real
question is who came up with the neat idea of sexing the
grammars.  I mean, masc. fem., and neuter could just as well
be ego, id, and superego--had Freud been a grammar master.
Or they could be the grammatical triple cast--blue, red, and I
don't know what the third channel was--green?  (Where all of
the environment friendly events were shown?)
	What's kind of wierd is that the nominative of masculine
nouns in the slavic languages at least have 0 endings.  It's
the "feminine" that dangles something at the end.

Pedantically yours,

--Mka