From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Questions and Answers Re: FWWM (Spoilers)
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <Bts16u.D63@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes...
>Some comments...

     Hi, Geordi.

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>1) Loved the girl in the beginning. The fact she was there did
>two things for me: One, I instantly respected Desmond for picking
>up on all those clues JUST LIKE THAT! Two, and more importantly,
>GORDON KNOWS ABOUT THE LODGE. Blue Rose, remember? Now, why
>hasn't he said anything?

     Because it's "real hush-hush stuff, Coop...  I'm over to Bend,
     Oregon..."  More than just a sex joke.
     And wasn't Gordon sniffing a BLUE ROSE while waiting for Coop
     the first time he was on the series?

>2) How many people want to lay money that Jurgen Prochnow is
>Mr. Lanterman?

     You know, I saw his name in the credits but actually didn't
     see him...  Which one was Mr. Lanterman?

>3) The arm sounds like an indian. So does SDC. Thoughts?

     I think so...  all goes to Owl Cave and Hawk's stuff...

>4)I checked the back of the CD- with the biggest picture of the
>angel. No way that's Annie.

     Who thought it was Annie?  No, it was from the White Lodge,
     I thought - Divine intervention, inspiration...  Brigg's
     friends?

>5) Why was so much camera time spent on the picture angel's wings
>and the garden behind them? did I miss something?

     The Divine Intervention stuff at the end - freeing Laura
     to triumph through letting herself be killed...  Freeing
     Ronette... White Lodge interventin, I'd think.

>6) Why was Austin (Pierre Tremond) wearing a mask? I thought the 
>mask was a one-time symbol of BOB, yet Austin was wearing the 
>mask throughout the film.

     The mask is a symbol for Bob... Mrs Tremond's grandson 
     was a symbol for Leland...  It's Leland shown eating
     the creamed corn... it's the grandson shown holding it
     "by magic" in the second episode of the second season.
     It becomes reverse foreshadowing (in continuity not reverse,
     but in realtime).

>7) Is it just me, or was there a new table next to what was 
>traditionally Coop's seat in the Waiting Room?

    Wasn't it always there... didn't he put his coffee cup there
     in the final episode?

>8) Sucking up the Creamed Corn was really a backwards play of
>someone spitting it out. Gross.

     Leland spitting it out... right?

>9) Annie had the blood on her face when she got out of the
>Lodge, too. She also had the blood on her face when she was 
>playing "Dead Caroline" next to Coop. However, when Windom showed
>her to Coop in the "Throne Room" (Or what would have been), she was
>fine. Why?

     She was frozen then, wasn't she?  An idealized image of 
     Annie - not the real thing.  

>10) How come Leland just walked through the drapes into the 
>waiting room, while Dale had to go through a corridor first?

     It's a cut - he may have had to walk through that corridor,
     just isn't shown -- it's a slow-cut in fact, isn't it?, which
     always means the passage of a little time (usually travel
     time.)

     Okay, here's something new: how about David Bowie...  That was
     hot shit - "I've been to one of their meetings."  He was wearing
     that same mask in the flashback, which I guess means he let himself
     be possessed by another thing like BOB (like Senor Droolcup/The Giant,
     Mike and Phillip Gerard)...  
     But it's a different kind of posession than Leland's.  Maybe because
     Bowie's character has a lot more willpower, wasn't taken over as a
     child.  And can free himself briefly, in spirit or body...?
     And how about that stuff with the phone lines... I think that's the
     same kind of thing as "The Owls Are Not What They Seem."  The phone
     poles are made of wood - sending messages back and forth for the
     forest.

     What the hell was Annie doing there?  Why did she tell Laura not to
     take the ring - when wasn't it her taking the ring that allowed her
     to finally deny BOB entry and allow her to die?  And se exactly where
     is the dead Laura?  Doppleganger - or just an image - or her in the
     waiting room that Coop saw?  And Maddie too?  So she's in the White
     Lodge?  Was that angel another kind of Dweller at the Threshold?  or
     what lies beyond the Dweller - the White Lodge and it's people, free
     finally to help out in larger ways than just untying knots...?

     But anyway, I don't see why Annie had any reason to be there - and
     I'm pissed because THAT WASN'T DONNA. :-)  And disappointed that
     so few of the cast were in it - Norma didn't even have a mid-range
     shot, let alone a closeup ... Shelly was just kind of there too -
     though she got to get slapped around by Leo too...

     Some discrepancies: I thought that the continuity and attention to
     detail was overall wonderful...  Notice the signet on that wring?
     The same as in Owl Cave and tattooed on Briggs and the Log Lady.
     The sets were wonderfully transformed into 3-dimensions, but kept
     their same look.  
     But: no Jacoby.  Laura didn't even mention him.  Even just the pink
     radio he gave her in her room would have been a nice touch: but he
     didn't even exist.
     Laura had the Waldo incident - getting bitten and "biting the bullet,"
     with the chip from Jack's... wasn't there.
     Not to glorify rape here, but wasn't Ronette roughed up just a TAD more
     by Leland?  Enough so she was beaten up hideously, to the point of
     possible neurological damage, raped ("several times" - meaning to me,
     more than just having sex with Leo and Jaques), fingers broken (presumably
     while Leland tried to shove a letter under her fingernail)...  In
     FWWM, poof, she's untied, she's outta there...  
     Lotsa discrepancies with the Cabin-Traincar sequence...  "Don't go
     there..."  Where was that?

     But incredible: Bobby shot some guy!  I thought that was dropped for
     good -- and it was that prick deputy from Brooklyn, that was really
     unexpected.  
     Interesting about Agent Desmond too... him and David Bowie, sounds
     like the makings of a post-Cooper (if need be) second film...
     Where's Ronette's body?
     What do you want to bet there was another name on that list of
     Project Bluebook people - more than just Major Briggs and Windom
     Earle...  Gordon Cole too...  
     What do you want to bet Briggs and Cole know each other real well,
     and that Cole prompted Briggs to let Cooper in on the transmission
     from the forest -- (goes to the phone poll signals here too)...
     I do love the way it came together here... you find out a lot even
     though you know exactly what's going to happen to the main character...
     that Lynch and Engles were able to make that a strength, the movie
     is powerful.
     But it doesn't feel like TWIN PEAKS very much, does it?  The worst part
     of the movie was that first Laura Palmer sequence - starting with
     that view of the sign on the highway and the "Falling" music - which
     continues through Laura's school-day...  Jesus, I cringed!  That
     was so ... self-conscious... like an obvious grab for audience cheers -
     it's not like Lynch at all...
     Another gripe: the music in the film was probably half-half new and from 
     the second season...  The new stuff (like Badalamenti rapping, not the
     Julee Cruise song, or the title cuts) mainly sucks, but the second
     season music is wonderfl - but apart from Sycamore Tree (which wasn't
     even in the movie, but I'm grateful for its inclusion) it's not
     on there...
     What's really nice is that when the people are stoned in this movie,
     I really believe they are stoned...  (A small point, granted, but
     helps the realism of the movie, which was back in grand fashion 
     after the "tv feel" of most of the second season)...  
     What happened to the stuff at the end?  I saw some slides with Hawk
     in the Waiting Room... and the Dweller in the Threshold... and Major
     Briggs... and Annie (but in her hospital room... with a ring, but
     Dale's ring, not the one in the movie)...  I guess this was all shot,
     or there wouldn't be action-slides on the sets; so it was cut?  What
     a bastard he is!!!

     And to make matters worse, Albert was on his absolute best behavior.
     (I didn't know till the opening credits that he was in the movie at
      all... in fact, he wasn't on any cast lists I read (and a lot of people
      who were didn't show in the final cut...)).  

     "So...You Wanna Hump The Homecoming Queen..."
                              -Laura, shy, sweet, innocent.
           Scott
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