From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: RAPE/INCEST FACTS (WAS Re: THE RAPE/INCEST MYTH.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:26:53 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

> = (Gregory S Clausen) writes:

>In response to Mark Ira Kaufman:
>   One of the techniques to support a woman's constitutional right 
>to abortion is to focus on some difficult aspect of abortion.  

And one technique used to justify forced birth is concentrating on
third-term abortions, injecting child support into the discussion, 
pushing the laughable tenet that women are "victims" of abortion, or more
amazingly, linking forced-birth to some supernatural being's wishes.

>One favorite ploy used by the less intelligent pro-abortion fanatics 
>is to evoke the subject of abortions resulting from pregnancies
>initiated by rape or incest. 

One favorite ploy used by THIS el stupido forced-birther is to ignore the
fact that, no matter how small or large the number of women pregnant from
rape or incest, IT ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN.  And showing the compassion of a
snake, people like Clausen discount those miserable victims.

Further, this same Clausen thing also ignores failed birth control.

>They evoke the subject as if it were some 
>significant part of the big picture of abortion in America.  

They invoke the subject of third term abortions as if it were some 
significant part of the big picture of abortion in America.

>It is usually suggested by these zealots that there are thousands of women 
>in America who are being impregnated daily by rapists and family members.

I've _never_ heard this figure from a pro-choicer.  I don't suppose you can
substantiate this unlikely claim?

>   Even someone as publicly untutored as Mark Ira Kaufman should know
>by now that rape/incest abortions are fewer than three percent 
>all the abortions performed in America.  

What a fucking asshole.  So, out of the 1.6 million abortions you whine
about every year, a "mere" 48,000 women would have their lives screwed over
by fascists like Clausen.  (BTW, Greg, you *do* know most rapes go
unreported, no?  Wouldn't that raise the percentage of rape-related
abortions?  Ah, never mind.  Fanatics can't incorporate facts too well.)

But, I _do_ see your point, Greggie.  Using your (inaccurate) figures,
instead of *thousands* of women impregnated daily by rape, it's *only* 130
women a day.

Thanks for showing us your Schlafly-like compassion.  

>   Even with a vivid imagination, the pro-abortion movement will
>lose this battle.  The reason is that they are fighting something
>that ultimately cannot win in the land of life, liberty, and the
>pursuit of happiness.  

I guess you haven't noticed.  Pro-choice carries the nation, and the more
fanatical pro-"lifers" are perceived as low-brow clowns that increasingly 
entertain, rather than scare, the country.

When was the last time, for example, that O.R. was anything less than joke
fodder for late-night TV comedians?

>Abortion Stops a Beating Heart.

Um, no.  You know that this is a lie in the vast majority of abortions.
Are _all_ your arguments based on intentional bullshit?

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