HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 13:31:22 MST
From: <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: a gift for him
 <1992Dec11.190744.4243@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> <peterw.724975511@coombs>

the perfect gift would be, being together, holding eachother and dreaming
about the future......together
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From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: Holiday blues
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 00:37:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <29147@oasys.dt.navy.mil> 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mona Hatfield) writes:
>In alt.romance.chat, verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>Hi folks...
>>back in order. This was the first Xmas ever that I spent alone
>>and I hope never to have to do that again. I turned 30 on the
>>28th too and spent it mainly on my own. Now I know the meaning of
>>holiday blues...
>
>Mary-Ann,
>
>So sorry to hear that you have the Holiday Blues.  Happy Belated Birthday
>Wishes.  Being thirty was great (for me), make the most of it or you'll
>be forty and wishing you had.

I'm working on it :) Life is better again andI'm putting it
behindme and looking forward to a bright new year :)

>Where is Calgary in relation to Alaska?  (I have my reasons)

Hmmm Calgary is in Alberta, southern end of the province, guess
that would be southwest of Alaska :)

>I tell you what, I don't have net access at home, but at midnight tonight
>(New Year's Eve) my son and I will drink a toast to your good fortune
>in the upcoming year :).

Thanks Mona :)

>*Warm Fuzzies* to you and yours

big warm hugs back and the hopes of a great 93 to yuo and yours
also :)

Mary-Ann


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Mary-Ann Verwey                    Hold on to the shining moments in times
verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca             of darkness, they will pull you through
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From: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Subject: see ya
Reply-To: hck@maximo.enet.dec.com (Herb King)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:18:24 GMT








   WELL PEOPLE IT IS NEW YEARS EVE. SO HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!!!!!
I HOPE IN 93 THAT WE ALL FIND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT (OR WHO) WE GOT. 

   I WON'T BE HERE FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. I'LL BE HEADED TO MY HOMETOWN
TONITE,NORTHERN NEW MEXICO (YES I DRINK THE WATER THERE). HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA
  ANY WAY I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL GET WHEREVER YOU ARE GOING TONIGHT SAFELY
AND I WILL SEE MONDAY THE 4th.



      HAPPYNEWYEARFROMHERBKING
From: 9999cs02@dt3 (Tina Marie!)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: romance
Date: 31 Dec 1992 13:00 CDT
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
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In article <1992Dec31.162137.16040@news.unomaha.edu>, psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow) writes...
> 
>And if that doesn't work, watch Aladdin, enjoy it, and take to heart the fact
>that Aladdin doesn't get the girl for sure, until he is honest and his true 
>self...

	Yes, I'll second this...it's a wonderful movie...I went
last weekend with a MaybeSpecialSomeone, and we both loved it...
It's funny, romantic, funny....

Tina Marie
Official TradeMark of ARC/RFA

"And love made death an illusion" -- Chthon, Piers Anthony

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Yes, You too can become a bona fide,
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:08:53 GMT

psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow) shares: 
>Official member of the Romantic Fire Association :)
>
>Although yet unfinished in its serial presentation, I have been notified
>by our Prez Julie Salter that my application story for RFA membership
>(cf. Rosebud, a story pt.1,2,3...) has been accepted:):):):):):):):):):):)
>
>I have decided, and have been approved, to take on the title of...
>Official Cloud-Watcher of the RFA. (humbly bows)

*applause* contrats, Cloud-Watcher!!!

>...Remember, a rainbow may end in a pot of gold,
>     but it begins in the clouds...

Good point.  I love clouds...especially big dark ones that threaten rain
or snow.  Call me wierd...I don't care....:)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: does anyone really care
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:48:12 GMT

In article <92356.155133ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET>(jojo) writes:
>     Is it just me or is there a diffinate problem with relationships now days"
>Don't expect any earth shattering news on the subject....just posing a question
>

probably. but what do you see as the problem?

-bacon
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.182718.22438@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>>>sheep?!  He even ties them up first!..... in his playroom!
>>>>>(there, that should get the ball rolling....) :-)
>>>>Gee - thanks, mate!!
>>>No prob!  anytime....
>>wait! how does he do that? are you saying Ross is a sheep? or related to one?
>Well, on the GrandScale aren't we all related?  Animals, vegetables,
>and minerals?  Didn't we all come from the same cosmic dust?

well then we've sure committed a lot of incest over the years haven't we?

>>>>We weren't going to drink in most states... just in front of my fire.
>>>>(Unless you are talking about most states of dress/undress *grin*  )
>>>>Besides... the younger, the better... *Naughty Grin*
>>>Ooooooo....!!!   A pedophile!  I like it!
>>I'm sure there's a lower limit...
>You know, I could be *really* crude here, and there are those who know
>it.... so I won't say a word....

good. :)

-bacon
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: uhhhh....
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:24:36 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:

>peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West) writes:

>>only 6 days to go...

>til...?

I see my true love again........

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 5 days to go...
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From: psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow)
Subject: Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 07:12:22 GMT

 Happy New Year echoes to all those in ARCland :)

May your year be as bright as the rising sun on newfallen snow...

I know mine will at least start that way ;-)

(Off to Iowa for the weekend)


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|Paul Snow     **HUGS**       email to: psnow@ns.ccsn.edu                    |
|Official Cloud-  **SMILES**     Don't feel a fool tripping over your feet,  |
|Watcher of the RFA  **LAUGHTER**   when your eyes are fixed on the clouds...|
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+   

   ...Remember, a rainbow may end in a pot of gold,
        but it begins in the clouds...
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From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Mackinac Island (was Re: Sunsets (was RE: Still Stunned))
Keywords: fudge!
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:56:36 GMT

In article <Bznu95.8os@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.002942.20041@mlb.semi.harris.com> smccoy@dw3g.ess.harris.com (Cheshire Cat) writes:
>>Did we mention the fudge?  Or, more properly...
>>Yes, Margaret, it is that good!
>>*swoon*
>>Cheshire Cat		   Official Back Scratcher of the RFA
>He's not kidding, folks!  I've been to the Island, and the fudge is
>heaven!!  Hey!  Maybe we can have the chocolate vat placed there...
>what do ya think??

well, since that puts me closest to it, if you put it there, I'll be
caretaker of the Vat if you'd like.

-bacon
From: AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET (Lisa Mae)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Rip hurt Ariel's writst *pout*...
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:42:55 GMT
 <1992Dec16.233231.17933@sequent.com> <92352.130800AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
 <1992Dec18.165951.3325@sequent.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Arizona State University

In article <1992Dec18.165951.3325@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
says:
>
>Rip:
>Well, can't say I didn't try...  :-( Besides, I don't think you really
>have it in you to hurt some one...  too cute.
>Ariel:
>*SMILE* Your a good judge of character.  As as for the "cute"....*wink*
>why thank you. *smile*
>Rip:
>Well, at least I am a good judge of *other* people character.... :-)
>And you *are* cute, but so *young*!

*grin* I might be young, but that means that I have all that more to learn.
hee...hee...hee

>Ariel:
>>Hey!  stop making my
>>mind work, when it doesn't want to!!! *grin*)
>Rip:
>But I thought your mind was suppose to work!  And always remember, "A
>mind is a terrible thing to lose...."

*Well, someone will just have to give me one of those clappers(clap your
hands and the device beeps) for christmas, so that I don't have to leave
it lost for long. *SMILE*

>Rip:
>>>Why thank you!  I never considered myself exotic before... :-)
>>>(ain't she just the cutiest thing when she giggles?)
Ariel:
>>*giggle*
>>Stop that!  Or I will be rolling on the floor soon. (*grin* No, you can't
>>join me.)
>Rip:
>But maybe I *want* you on the floor... >;-)  Oh, poo!  I can't join
>ya huh?  Well, can I at least watch?

*okay, you can watch.  But, you can't shout out directions! ;)

>
Ariel
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 11:54:53 MST
From: Lisa Mae <AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
 <1992Dec16.233955.18354@sequent.com>
 <1992Dec18.074130.29125@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <92Dec21.201057.28851@acs.ucalgary.ca>
 <1992Dec23.072653.20671@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

In article <1992Dec23.072653.20671@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Ross Mair) says:
>
>>Awwwwww ... MA gathers Ross in her arms and snugs him real tight
>>and whispers in his ear...
>Ross:
>Ahhh - that feels so nice. Thank you MA *HUG*
>I knew there had to ba *a* women who appreciated that I didn't wear
>her underwear  :-)
>
>Now, just what wewre you whispering in my ear?? :-)

*That's what I was wondering.  Come on MA, tell.  Hey wait a minute!  Ross,
weren't you listening when she said it? hmmmmm....where was your mind? *grin*
*giggle*
Ariel
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nowhere Man)
Subject: Re: ASexual Encounter
Organization: ARCP&D
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:53:22 GMT

jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
>erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nowhere Man) shares: 
>>	We were going like rabbits...
>>
>>	Nah...  I'll forego the story telling.  I just had to post the
>>subject line, that's all...  No!  Wait!  Don't post this!  I forgot a
>>space in the subject line!  Stop!!!   Wait just a minu...

>I love it when you get all wierded out like that....*snicker*

	Yeah, it hapopens few and far between nowadays...  Enjoy it if
you can!  (Geez...  so many responses from Julie...  I think I am in
Luv!  MMmmmmm...
-- 
She's so hot, yet so cold...  That's what I like about her...
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From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: Teach me how!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 11:10:11 GMT

puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) writes:

> rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) pleads to the masses...

>|Oh Dear, poor Puter, he definately has the wrong idea....
>|Apart from the fact that Rip and Blade will be chasing him in no time flat...
>|If I was shopping with Ariel, I'd be helping *her* into the red crotchless
>|panties and black stockings.....   :-)~~~~
>|Could someone explain this to Puter - please!!
>|And to think this man fathered me.... who told him how to do it?  :-)

>	Comin' to a street corner soon...

>Please help Puter learn the birdz'n'beez, the fax'o'life, the dance'o'love.

>Hello. I am Callie Bruthers. Just look at this Puter. Look into his eyes.
>You can see that although he has fathered a child, he is not "all-knowing"
>in what he did. Such a loss, and a tragedy. Tell me that you cannot look
>into his puppy-dog eyes and see the longing for knowledge, the spark of
>hope that one day he will know what he has done to bring this disobedient
>child into the world. 

>All of your money goes straight to Puter, there are no middle hands. 
>And for $1000, you will recieve pictures and home movies showing how
>he is progressing. Glow in the fact that you helped put a smile on
>this man's face. 

>If you have no money to send, offer your own time and services. Call
>today. Make that special place in your bed... er, heart for him.

Puter, Puter, only you would think of this...

Now if anyone *falls* for this load of drivel... :-)

Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
Not at rwm@stan.xx.swin.oz.au just now, coz its down.
So read the from line! :-)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:24:09 GMT

lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:

>In article <1992Dec29.170843.15023@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec29.015323.5518@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>>>verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>>
>>>>MA Snuggles Ross and smiles
>>>
>>>>>Now, just what wewre you whispering in my ear?? :-)
>>>
>>>>MA whispers some more and watches Ross's face flush ;)
>>>
>>>MA!!  You'd do *that* to me....  :-)~~~~
>>>For *how* long!!!    *Ross's eyes widen in expectation*
>>>
>>>I've never spent a *whole* week in bed....  :-)~~~~~

>>I think she means *tied up* in bed, for a week....

>Ross!   *shocked look*   I didn't know you were into 
>that kind of thing!    Maybe you and I should change positions
>for a while, and I'll be YOUR bodyguard!   *teasing wink*

Well - Rip added the bit about ropes - not me, Lis!
But as for weeks in bed....
I thought I'd told you about that!  :-)
But you can gurad my body, if you want to - as long as you
promise to take good care of it!  :-)~~

Ross
In Canberra with Clare
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Best Place for a Sunset...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 03:44:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.131358.11579@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>******attribution and a lot of innuendos about underwear deleted******
>>> >>I think she means *tied up* in bed, for a week....
>>> >
>>> >Tied up in the busy sense, Rip.
>>> >I don't use ropes!  :-)
>>>
>>> Ahhh but I do Ross, nice silken cords ;)
>>>
>>> Mary-Ann
>
>>Mary-Ann, did you use the silken cords around Ross' neck??
>
>Darlng MA woudln't do that.....
>besides, if she got carried away with it - then she be a necrophiliac....

How do you know she isn't already?  Oh, I'm sorry, she makes love
*like* the dead, not *with* the dead....  (Oh gawd am I in trouble
now!)

>And I think we will leave that practice for Rip alone!  :-)

Why thank ewe!  Leaves more for me!

>Ross
>Getting back at Rip for comments about me and sheep!

Hey!  You were the one who wanted to get all the females!  You never
said *human* females!

:-)

rip
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze...
                                        Tempus
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: <sigh> Guy troubles
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:12:22 GMT

I've been reading this group for a while and everyone seems so nice, I'm
hoping someone could help a bit.

OK, this is the situation.  I've been seeing this guy off and on for the
past year and a half, and we were starting to become a lot closer.  Two
weeks before Christmas he finally told me he cares about me!  Then all of a
sudden he tells me that he's been talking to his ex-girlfriend and she wants
to see him.  He said she'd be coming down over the Christmas holidays.  Why?
Because he doesn't want to wonder for the rest of his life whether they
could have worked things out again.  Then, when I get home for Christmas (he
lives in my home town) he tells me he's going to visit her instead.  She
sent him a plane ticket and he left today to visit her.  I don't know when
he'll be back, and I'm left with a lot of unanswered questions.  What should
I do?  I care so much for this guy, and I really don't want to lose him
(although it seems now that I have little chance....).  Any advice for this
heart-broken woman?  I'd appreciate it a lot.  This is not the way to start
the New Year!

Thanks in advance. =)

Smiles (at least trying to...),
   Dawna =)


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From: psnow@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Snow)
Subject: Rosebud, a story pt. 3a
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:09:32 GMT


 	She sat there in the moonlight, admiring the rosebud. She looked
up, startled, as she felt the prescence of a man standing before her.

	"Ahem, excuse me miss, but the park is closed. You will need to
leave."

	She smiled at the officer and said apologetically, "I guess I
lost track of the time, sorry."

	"No problem," he replied, "Nice rose."

	"Yes, it is," she said as she rose from the bench and began
walking away, "It is a most wonderful rose..."

...


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|Paul Snow     **HUGS**       email to: psnow@ns.ccsn.edu                    |
|Official Cloud-  **SMILES**     Don't feel a fool tripping over your feet,  |
|Watcher of the RFA  **  8-)  **    when your eyes are fixed on the clouds...|
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+   

   ...Remember, a rainbow may end in a pot of gold,
        but it begins in the clouds...
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From: kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920)
Subject: Romance and Divorce ...
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:28:47 GMT

Thanks for the input from Carole and others in the "Did anyone see this before"
thread.  I can see your point about being cautious when approaching a
relationship with someone who is not yet divorced.  Yeah sure you need time
to heal, achieve closure, etc.  But honestly I think it depends on the sit-
uation and the goals of both parties.  In my case I believe that I did every-
thing in my power to keep my marriage together.  I felt it was best for all
concerned.  But you can't make your partner do anything.  When he or she makes
a decision to end the relationship your options become very limited.  In some
cases the only thing you can do is walk away.  That's the way it is for me. The
only reason that I'm not divorced is that NC state law requires that my wife
wait one year before the divorce becomes final.  But she remains determined
to do the deed.  I don't want that but what can I do?  Sit around and wait?
Man lifes way to short for that!  Anyway I tried it.  It stinks!

Besides, I'm not looking to get married again anytime soon.  I just wanna
spend time with my new friend.  I really like making a lady feel special.
I've done that meaningless, recreational sex thing.  It sux!  Well it's better
than no sex at all I guess but the point is that I want and need something
more.  I want it all, and this lady definitely has it.  

In this particular case I don't think my new friend has a problem with the
divorce thing.  I think she's just ... well, shy!  I mean I never see her go
out with anyone.  She sticks pretty much to herself.  I'm fairly sure she 
finds me attractive.  I mean the one guy that I did see her go out with a
couple of times was not a looker by any means.  When she told me that he had
dumped her for his old girl friend I 'bout fell out of my chair!  From what
she said he didn't treat her very nice either.  But I've really had the charm
light on full blast.  Nicest resturant in town, flowers, poetry, you name it.
I almost think she might be scared of me or something.  Maybe she doesn't think
I'm sincere or something.  But I am!  I mean unlike most women that I have gone
out with lately, I wouldn't even think of puttin' a move on her (to put it
somewhat bluntly) or anything like that.  Hell I'm almost intimidated by her!
She's too beautiful and sweet!  Anyway, I've got it bad I think.  Haven't
felt this warm and weird in a while.

KimmyD
From: inde7i4@jane.uh.edu (Mirena Paravic)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: *sigh*
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:30 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1992Dec21.170424.19906@e2big.mko.dec.com>, pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan) writes...
>Oh, Tina...
> 
>I'm really sorry for you...  Wish I could be there to give you a *HUG* in
>person and loan you a shoulder to cry on...  (My friends do so much of that
>I've had sponges sewn into my shirts  :-)  )
> 

	*grin* and I thought those big, broad shoulders were natural...:)

	Thanks for the hug..*hugs back*...

>I'll understand if you want to put the Chocolate thread on hold for a while...

	No, no....let's continue until we get forced to alt.sex.stories..:)

	I'll get over this...it jsut really hit me hard..

	Tina Marie
	(feeling naked without her .sig)
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: I'm Baaaaaack!! [Insert Evil Grin]
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:01:36 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

E. Lloyd Olson writes:

>Hi, All.
>     I know I haven't been here lately, but I'm back (just in time for 
>Christmas).  I also wrote a story (well, it's also sort of an essay);

Hi, good to see you, *HUG*

>     Looking back on it now, though, I think it was good for me to
>hear Aahz's comments.  It forced me to more fully confront the fact
>that this woman is, for me, unattainable;  it killed off a little
>more of the dream and in so doing brought me closer to reality.  I
>now deal with Julie and Steve more effectively than before (look,
>Ma -- no hang-ups), and, with luck, I may eventually cease to
>desire her entirely.  End of story.

I think this is the most telling part. We can't hide from reality and
expect to be happy, we have to confront what is happening around us
and accept it.

Now if I could just convince someone else of that.......:-(

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 16 days to go...
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