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From: iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: The BILLS FAN
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:55:18 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


OK,ok so the Bills lost. I have not "chickened" out from this newsgroup.  In 
fact I have been trying to log on all week from my computer and was unsuccessfulThis is the first time I could get to an on-campus terminal.

So I predicted the Bills to go 15-1/14-2.  Hint:That means one or the other.
Choice number two is still possible (we all know the Bills will go undefeated
the rest of the year after.....I admit it....being humiliated by LA).

A positive note:  The Bills can lose and still rack up 400 yards (394 to be
exact).  Kelly also set a Bills record by passing for 300+ yards in three
consecutive games....Andre Reed looking good as ever.  The only possible concernis the running game...and there is no question that Thurman is a bad runner.
As soon as the offensive line gets back into the flow (i.e. the return of Hull), then the running game can improve.

The loss had some more good things about the Bills:
1. The hunger/fire should be back playing "catch up."  If the Bills went 26-2 over the last two years in meaningful games (not the last game of each season since they didn't use their starters in them) without the so-called "fire", how can they do with it?

2.  Henry Jones got his league leading fifth interception (11th for the team)   compared to 4 last year at this point.

3.  4th quarter blitzing of Marinovich shut him down (i.e. 3 Raider points in the second half).  The Bills have the quickness, look for them to blitz Browning  Nagle on MNF so all of you can see him getting...sacked...fumble...sacked....
If it works against the Jets, the Bills may stick with it.  It will force the
secondary into a lot of one on ones with big plays...and big risks but the Billssecondary is already a big-play/big-risk secondary.

4.  The defense played exceptionally good again.  The offense gave up 30 or so points against Miami and won the game for the Raiders.  The out of sync-jinx     between the offense and defense should be over soon (i.e. one plays good and theother bad) according to probablity.

5.  The Bills still strike fear into the hearts of all "you guys".  I got 15 
letters about the Raiders los
                          loss.  The fact that you took the effort to write
exemplifies that the Bills loss means a lot to you.  It only means a lot becauseyou want them to lose reeaaallly baaaad and when they do it makes your day.
This can only mean that the Bills are really good.....after all you can't reallycare if someone like the Jets lost every week.  In other words, the more negative comments about the Bills, the better they must be.

P.S.  I am a weekend e-mailer so I would appreciate that you do not infer that
I "chickened" out by not writing during the week (keep the hate mail rolling in!).
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:35:39 GMT

jggoslin@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Whiplash Smile) writes:

>RE:No shows in Superbowls...
>Isn't simply getting to the superbowl good enough.  It means that the two teams
>in it are the best in their respective conferences.  

>And remember this... statistically, the Broncos DO NOT HAVE THE WORST SUPERBOWL
>RECORD!  The Minnesota Vikings do.  I'm not sure of the exact score, but they
>are also 0-4 and were outscored by more points and have never led a superbowl.
>So there.  "Take that to the bank"

OK, you figure:

K.C.       23 Minnesota  7	Dallas     27 Denver 10
Miami      24 Minnesota  7	New York   39 Denver 20
Pittsburgh 16 Minnesota  6	Washington 42 Denver 10
Oakland    32 Minnesota 14	S.F.       55 Denver 10


Try again (and I'm sure you will).





						Al
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Re: More meaningless NFC East stats...
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 12:52:26 GMT

In article <TAK.92Oct6175713@tazboy.jpl.nasa.gov>, tak@tazboy.jpl.nasa.gov (Tom Kreitzberg) writes:
|> 
|> Here's something for Eagles fans to think about when the afterglow
|> of Monday night's game fades: the PF-PA totals over the last ten
|> quarters of play for the Eagles and the Cowboys. The Eagles scored
|> 31 against Dallas, 30 against the Broncos, and, what, 10 or so in
|> the second half against Phoenix? Against them, Dallas got 7, Denver
|> 0, and the Cardinals maybe 10? So I'll guess it's 71-24 at the
|> worst. Now, the Cowboys scored 7 against the Eagles, was it 24
|> against the Cardinals, and nothing in the second half against the
|> Giants, while giving up 31, 'bout 20(?), and 28 points, respectively.
|> Which is, um, 31-78.
|> 
|> Meaningless? Of course; add two more quarters and Dallas is at
|> 65-78. But Dallas has only played exceptionally well the first
|> game and a half this season, and, as the old saying goes, you're
|> only as good as your last two and a half games.
|> 
|> None of which means I think the Eagles will have an easy time of
|> it in Dallas.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So what's your point?

-- 
Cary W Reams | "...truth demands to be declared, even if it is
NT/BNR/MTXVO | ugly and unethical."                - Nietzsche 
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From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Miami WIns!  Bills Lose!  Eagles Lose!  49ers Escape!
Date: 11 Oct 1992 23:33:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Looks like the Bills just plainly suck.  Losing to Raiders by 17 points!

Miami had a close one and I think/hope it brought them back to Earth
after they destroyed Buffalo.  I think the pats and the Colts will be
tough.  I know they will win, but they just have to stay focused!

Eagles lose, making Miami the only undefeated team!

49ers looked like they had it pretty rough against the Pats!

Mike
The Dolfan Mike
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From: wgb3@pyuxf.uucp (25336-buoni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:20:59 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

From porthos!walter!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!rigel.tamu.edu!c1h3384 Wed Oct  7 12:21:55 EDT 1992

In article <1992Oct6.212447.1@wharton.upenn.edu>, reille85@wharton.upenn.edu writes...
>>The Eagles did not play very well offensively and still scored 31 pts. on MNF,
>>all I have to say is watch out NFL.  By the way, the Eagles will also win on
>>November 1 in Dallas.
> 

>Remember, 1) They can NOT play better offensively. That is it. Take out
>             their QB's run, what do you have? Does Cunningham know how to
>             hit a reciever in game time?
>
>          2) You are going to lose a bunch of games this year. The first one
>             should be in KC. KC is going to beat you really bad.
>
>	  3) Coming in November, the two teams are going in opposite directions.
>             Dallas is young, and always goes up. You guys are too old to make
>             a run that time. So Dallas is going to pay you back then. 

>Bob

You are an IDIOT, plain and simple.

1) Cunningham threw his FIRST interception this year Monday night.  How many
   has the ACHEYMAN thrown?
2) Cunningham's completion percentage was 75% prior to Monday night's game. 
   What was ACHEYMAN's?
3) Even after, in my opinion, a subpar performance Cunningham is still rated 
   #1 in the league, 20 points ahead Steve Young (another great QB).  Where's
   the ACHEYMAN on this list?
4) ACHEYMAN has NEVER beaten the EAGLES, has Cunningham beaten the Cowboys?
5) ACHEYMAN has had 3 of 4 3+ interception games against the EAGLES, how 
   many has Cunningham had against the Cowboys?
...

I won't even try to compare the defenses, since there is none!

Bill
   
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: The Alltime Greats needed.
Summary: Top Packers since 1970.
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:00:45 GMT


I'm interpreting this to mean that you want the best players at each
position since 1970.  Ok, here's an attempt for Green Bay (read '|' as
an alternative (or)):

Special teams:

K:  Chester Marcol
P:  David Beverly | Paul McJulien | Donny Anderson
KR:  Steve Odom
PR:  Phil Epps | Steve Odom

Offense:

QB:  Lynn Dickey
FB:  John Brockington
HB:  MacArthur Lane
WR:  James Lofton
WR:  Sterling Sharpe
TE:  Paul Coffman
C:   Larry McCarren | Ken Bowman
G:  Gale Gillingham
G:  Ron Hallstrom
T:  Greg Koch
T:  Forrest Gregg (retired after '70 season)

Defense:
DT/NT:  Mike McCoy
DE:  Mike Butler
DE:  Ezra Johnson
ILB:  Brian Noble
ILB:  Ray Nitsche
OLB:  Dave Robinson
OLB:  Tim Harris | Tony Bennett | John Anderson
S:  Johnny Gray
S:  Steve Luke | Mark Murphy
CB:  Willie Buchanan
CB:  Mark Lee
-- 
	Don't waste your time waving your hands
	and hoping when a rock or a club will do.

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jason@cray.com (Jason Parker)
Subject: Philadelphia Eagles wk6
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:34:28 CDT

(posted on behalf of Terry Kent - kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu)

Philadelphia Eagles (4-1)
Next game:  at Washington

Game Summary

       Kansas City*   Philadelphia
Pts         24            17
Rushing    19-62        34-184
Pass Att  12-26-1      16-28-2
Pass Yds    254          129
Fum Lost     0            1
Possess    23:31        36:29

PASSING
Cunningham  16-27-2-168 PP
Walker       0-1-0-0

RUSHING
Walker      19-89
Cunningham  12-81
Byars        3-14

RECIEVING
Barnett      6-86
Byars        4-28
Beach        3-24 TT
Walker       2-11
Dixon        1-19

KICKING
Ruzek    F(49) XX

SUMMARY
It is difficult to win when you let Kansas City's recievers run around all by 
themselves.  Kansas City had the correct game plan, and it worked.  
Philadelphia's running game was outstanding again, gaining 184 yards.

Source:  Saint Paul Pioneer Press
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: So much for the best team in the NFL --- KC KiCks Eagles's ASS!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:13:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.183846.7336@oakhill.sps.mot.com> floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.144303.28185@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>>Wow, I am actually agreeing with you! :-)  Likewise, I was not impressed
>>with the Eagles performance last Monday night, and I posted as such.
>
>
>Oh, did you?  You have implied that Dallas was a good young team, and in
><1992Oct7.001406.17977@PacBell.COM> you wrote about the impressive nature of 
>the Eagles win.  As a matter of fact, you wrote, " This was a stomp you,
>spit in your face, call your sister a SL*T, and embarrass you nation wide
>telecast."  If that's not someone calling a win impressive, please explain
>what kind of language you would use for a really impressive win.
>
>And now you aren't at all impressed by their win over Dallas.  Right!
>
>>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
>>  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
>>  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
>
>Am I the only one who truly appreciates the irony of this quote when it  
>appears in John Gloria's .sig file?
>
>Floyd Goodrich
>floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com
>

Mr. Goodrich....I applauded the Eagles win on this game. So what?
I was only giving credit where credit was due, for that particular
Sunday game. Likewise, I also stated that even though the Eagles
did win the game, they and Cunningham were suspect.
Unfortuanatley, unlike you, I do not make it a habit to save all
my posts/replies. However, it appears you do. If you were to then
read ALL of my posts/replies on the Eagles, you will see a common thread.
I.e., they and Cunninghman are pretenders. 'noug said.

-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
From: patrick@sequent.com (Patrick Roddy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: STATUS OF MONTANA...
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:04:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


I am interested in finding out whether the Niners plan to continue
with Young at QB if Montana is ready to come in. As much as I worship
Montana, I am suspect on messing with a winning package. Is Montana
ready to come off of IR, or will he remain for a couple more weeks.
Looking forward to watching the Niners in mid January.

"One for the thumb"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com (Daryl Owens)
Subject: Re: K.C. vs. Philly
Organization: Intergraph Corporation 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:24:21 GMT

|> 
|> SPECIAL TEAMS - Kevin Lowery is a great kicker, and Schottenheimer(sp?)|> 
                   ~~~~~  
|> 
|> -Keith
|> GOOOOOOOO BRONCOS!!!!!!
|> 
|> 
Keith,

Can you say:     Nick "The Kick" Lowery   ;-)



Daryl "Dman" Owens 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl as Alpha and Omega, again (was Re: Eagles : YIKES!)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.032927.957@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
>jg> John P. Gloria
>gs> Gary Strand
>
>gs> Of course, I wouldn't expect a Forty-Whiner fan to understand. Living off
>    *past* glory makes it easier to rationalize away the 49ers poorer perform-
>    ance of the last couple of seasons. Just as Packer fans, Dolphin fans, Cow-
>    boys fans, and Steeler fans have learned, a team cannot be "the Greatest" 
>    forever. However, John just doesn't seem to realize that.
>
>jg> Gary, I thought you were only allowed to get out of your straight jacket
>    on weekends? 
>
>  That's *all* you have to say?
>
>  Why not try supporting your argument that the SB is the *only* means to de-
>  termine a team's "greatness", and how past SB wins mean anything for this
>  season, or for any season except the one in which they took place. Also,
>  why not take the argument back a step and say that those teams that have a
>  tradition of winning their conference championships means that those teams
>  are the best of the given conference. I'm sure that the Broncos 5-11 record
>  in 1990 (despite their 4-0 record in the AFC championship until that point)
>  doesn't mean that the Broncos were amongst the worst AFC teams in 1990. They
>  did have a great tradition in the AFC, heck, that means that they're among
>  the best in the AFC, regardless of the specific season involved. That's what
>  I understand your argument to be, lamebrained as it is.
>
>  I bet if you think *real* hard, you can support your opinions. Repeating
>  them over and over again doesn't count as support, btw.
>
Gary, it seems you furnished your own reasons. It is also apparent
that you have a mental block against the Niners period. No amount
of facts will ever persuade you, so why waste your time when it will
do no good. Besides, you already have the "answers". Yes, Gary, Gary
the ANSWER MAN. Garyroo, what's the score; take a hike.
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 8 Oct 1992 23:36:34 CDT
From: <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chicago Bears STATS. Week #5

TEAM
Chicago Bears (2-3)

NEXT OPPONENT
Tampa Bay

GAME SUMMARY

           Chicago    Minnesota*
Pts        20         21
Rushing    28-86      27-127
Pass Att   20-34-2    21-26-2
Pass Yds   201        205
Fum Lost   0          2
Poss       33:09      26:51

PASSING
Harbaugh 20-34-2-201 P

RUSHING
Anderson 16-46
Harbaugh  3-24 T
Muster    8-16
Lewis     1-0

RECEIVING
Anderson  6-48
Waddle    5-64
Davis     3-46
Muster    2-18
Blackwell 2-12
Jennings  1-9
Gentry    1-4

KICKING
Butler 2F (50,37) 2X

SACKS
None

INTERCEPTIONS
Woolford 1
Stinson 1

INJURIES
Auzzene (dislocated shoulder)
Dent (suspected cracked rib)

GAME SUMMARY
Bears think football game lasts only 30 mins.  Vikings cameback
from 0-20 in the 4th when the Bears showed why they are ranked 26th
in the D.

NEWS ITEMS
Butler became Bears leading scorer of all time with a classy 50 yard FG.

OTHER NOTES
*= Home Team
P= Touchdown Pass Thrown
T= Touchdowns Scored
F= Field Goal Scored (number in parens is distance)
X= Extra Point Scored
PASSING: completions,attempts,interceptions, TD passes
From: adama@bmdhh68.bnr.ca (Adam Ashby)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ticket wanted: Tampa Bay @ Chicago (Oct. 18)
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:15:36 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd., Maidenhead, England

In article <KARPPINE.92Oct9164602@tnds05.ntc.nokia.com> karppine@ntc.nokia.com writes:

     I would like to see the Buccaneers vs. Bears game on 10/18/92.
     Is there anyone with a spare ticket - or some advice how to get
     one.


You could try TicketMaster on +1 312 559 1212 (I think!!)
and if you have no luck there give Union Tyson a call.  You will be able to
get the number from International Directories.  They are on Washington
Street.  If you are walking there, then I think that they are located in
the block between Dearborn and State, or State and Wabash.  Someone in
Chicago should be able clarify this.

--
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From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Another Jets victory
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:25:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.26169
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.football.pro, mkr@postman.hsn.no (MORTEN KRISTIANSEN) writes:
>Browning Nagle: 300+ yards  3 tdowns
>Blair Thomas:   120+ yards  1 tdown
>Moore&Toon :    200+ yards  2 tdowns
>To make a long story short : Ny Jets   42   Indy  7
>
>Go Jets :-)

  The Jets are free to go ahead and prove me wrong, but.....

 There is no way in the world the Jets have a good enough offense to
score 42 points against Indy's much improved and very tough defense.
For that matter, the Jets don't have a good enough offense to score
that many points against probably anyone. They score 30 against the
pathetic Patriots, at home, and they're going to score 42 against Indy
in Indy. As a great, recent day, philosopher once said,

   "Chaaa, when monkeys fly out my butt."
			     (Wayne Campbell)

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Code 1252
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000

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*    "The point to remember is that what the government gives       
*     it must first take away."
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From: v073pzuy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mr. Tinkertrain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Week 6 prime matchups
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6352@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV>, m1nss01@fed.frb.gov (Neil S. Seftor) 
	writes...
>In article <1992Oct07.121322.4511@bnr.ca>, jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
	writes:

>> Denver @ Wash: 2 teams that really need to establish were their season
>> 		is going, and now is about as late as they can wait.
>True, but the battle of the two teams that can only beat weenies (also,
>my two favorite teams =/ ) will not necessarily be a thrill because they
>are the same calliber.

I don't know...I always thought that two teams of the same caliber playing each
other usually made for an exciting (ie., "thrilling") game...

>	- Neil

					---Chet Zeshonski
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steve Young to Jerry Rice (Was Re: Rating the QBs)
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:29:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct9.192918.21252
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct9.173346.13286@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:

>Rice has said that he hasn't been running his routes correctly, and
>has stated he off to a slow start because of hold out.
>
>Defenses double him a lot.

Especially the Lambs.  Since Rice joined the Niners, LA had played
them as tough as anyone (had split with them every year, I think,
until '91).  The major reason is that they absolutely refuse to let
Rice beat them.  I don't think he's ever had a really big game
against them...


-- 
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cunningham's QB rating
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:30:55 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Oct11.091104.21709@athena.mit.edu> centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam) writes:
>There are many who think it's A FLUKE that Cunningham leads the
>NFL in QB rating. There are some that think his stats will drop.
>
>I disagree.

Well, you're wrong, sorry.  His rating vs. the Cowboys was around 51.  And
it's certainly not going to be in the 140-range against K.C., either; perhaps
Monsieur Strand can fill in that detail.  It is dropping, and will continue
to do so -- Cunningham is only human, and there is no way he could maintain
a 145 rating over 16 games.  I don't even think he'll maintain the 123 rating
he had after the Cowboy game.

Personally, I think you may be right, he may be the best QB right now.  But
that doesn't mean he's going to be the best ten weeks from now.  The Eagles
have the best chance at the Super Bowl trophy, IMHO, but a critical question
could be:  have they peaked too early?  I find it hard to believe that anyone
can maintain the intensity they have had over the entire season.  The loss
to K.C. shows that.  Cunningham's greatest flaw, I think, is that he tries
to do too much for the team.  In past years, maybe he had to, but he doesn't
now.  So far, he's realized that, but we'll see if he continues to be the
team quarterback he has been.

Daniel Welch
----
Two men say they're Jesus -- one of 'em must be wrong!
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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: Re: ELWAY BEST THERE IS ...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.212827.12278@advtech.uswest.com> yslas@riverauswest.com ( Rob Yslas) writes:
>
>I thought that Tarkenton was on all four SB losses that the Vikings have suffered.
>Elway has lost three SBs.  The Broncos lost in the 1978 SB to Dallas with Craig
>Morton "Salt" (I couldn't resist :-) as the QB.  The three SB losses in the '80s
>were with Elway at QB.

	If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Joe Kapp the Quarterback of the 
Vikings first Super Bowl Loss???

- Dan