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From: rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu (BATES, ROBERT PATRICK)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 600cc SportBikes...
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:49:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Howdy!  I've got (yet another) question concerning a 600cc bike for a person 
who's ridden nothing bigger than his YSR for 2.5 yrs.  I'm looking at getting 
married in a year or so, and need to get another form of transportation - I 
convinced the li'l lady that a 600cc bike wouldbe perfect for me, if she wanted 
the CRX ;-)

Anyways, I am looking at '86-'87 bikes, preferable faired sportbikes.  What I 
would like are some opinions/suggestions/do/don't stuff about bikes like the 
Hurricane 600's, Ninja 600R's, Katana 600's, and FZ 600's that you all have 
experienced.  Please e-me as I don't get on the group as regularly as I used 
to...  I'd basically like to know which of 'em is more economical as far as 
operating costs go and maintenance as well as ergonomics and street use...

Thanks,
Rob.

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Robert Bates                        Disclaimer:
rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu                   "I make no claims..."
Texas A & M University
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From: edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Avon vs Michelin radials
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:37:21 GMT
Reply-To: edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu ()
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <1992Apr4.000749.26073@mprgate.mpr.ca> parker@mprgate.mpr.ca (Ross Parker) writes:

>Nope...

>I was told about 8K for the Michelin, and 15-16K for the Avon.

>YMMV.

How about some data from someone who has run both?  Me.  I got
about 7K on two Michelin 59s on the rear of my K100RS.   I fitted a
pair of the Avon ST22-23s because I heard of the wonderful
mileage(yea, someone told me twice too).  I now have 4K on the
Avons and they will be lucky to make 7K.  So on my bike, the way I
ride, the Avons are no better and may give less than the Michelins.
I do like the way the Avons handle compared to the Michelins.  They
have a more progressive roll in.

As a side note, the front Michelins were gone ~2K before the rears,
and the Avon front looks as if it will outlast the rear by a bit.

For, me 7-8K on the Michelns is about right and looks to be the
same for the Avons.  As always, YMMV.

 Ed Hackett                  The Desert Research Institute 
 edh@wheeler.wrc.unr.edu     Reno, Nevada   (702) 673-7380   
 DoD #200 WMTC BMWRA DIOC   I'm not really a chemist, I'm just one of
 DUCATI 900SS  BMW K100RS    them motorsicle sonsabitches.   __=o&o>__
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:36:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


*The Points MOST CERTAINLY DO determine when the plug fires... When
*the coil is charged and the points break contact, Wham, the coil
*lets go of its induced load and a spark appears.
*
*If you have an electronic sensor instead of points, you still have
*to worry about timing, you just don't have to worry about pitted points,
*wet points, oily points, etc..

Yes, but if you don't have points then the timing won't change as the points
wear or the cam/follower (for the points) wears.  On engines without points
there is nothing that would cause the timing to shift.  The only way the
timing would change is if you loosened up the bolt that holds the electronic
pickups or the trigger for the pickups (a magnet).  It is probably a good
idea to check the timing on occasion, but many people don't.  It can change
but it usually doesn't.

Frank Ball   2LR-D             frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard                pyramid!hplabs!hpsad!frankb
1212 Valley House Drive        (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999     KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 I'm the NRA.
From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Aged Ambrosia Rev.4
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:35:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Apr13.133533.6481
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University

The following article is a repost of an article gleaned from
the unofficial rec.motorcycle archives.  If I can continue to
find the time, I will periodically repost other "Aged Ambrosia"
to this newsgroup.

This particular article is just a nibble of the quality that I
hope to put forth, and I hope the readers of rec.motorcycles may
be inspired to contribute similar material.

***********************************************************

This article harkens back to the "Great ClearCoat Debates" era.
For those of you who've never had the (mis)fortune of discovering
clear coat, it's a clear lacquer which is usually spray painted
onto metallic surfaces to prevent unsightly corrosion...and it
wears off or discolors in time.  This can be remedied by removing
the old clear coat and reapplying new.  Or one can simply polish,
and polish, and polish, and polish, and polish, and ....  ;-)

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From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Clear coat
Summary: delicious, softly rounded curves
Date: 8 Jan 90 16:48:45 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <6931@lindy.Stanford.EDU+, 
francis@hanauma.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
+Thorick Chow says:
+Gee, I've felt for a long time that the polished cases on the Triumph Twins 'n
+Triples were one of the more beautiful industrial type pieces.  And the cases
+on a Norton Commando ??  What a sight !!
+
+and Francis Muir replies:
+What a sight, indeed. But these cases were (or should have been) anodized at
+the Meriden works. That is, the bare aluminum surfaces were treated to deposit
+a thin, very hard aluminum oxide layer which acts as a protective barrier. 
+Now, once you polish this surface with any kind of abrasive, you destroy the
+barrier and -- BINGO -- you are now committed to polishing and repolishing 
+said cases for the rest of your natural born life. Which segment of Dante's 
+Divine Comedy does this remind you of? Il Purgatorio? At the very least.
+
+and Ross Alexander says:
+... Polishing my old Norton's rocker covers and cases isn't as much fun
+as riding the beast (or sex, either), but it is rewarding.
+ 
+and Francis Muir replies:
+Rewarding? For who? Dam' it, I can feel an attack of gout coming on...
+... form following function -- your polishing is cosmetology.

Spoken by a soul in desparate need of the breath of life.

Polishing the cases on a Norton is far and away the most sensual experience
a person can have with a machine built for other purposes.  A soft rag in
hand, stroking over that part of the buttock-size case covering the clutch,
the rounded curve fills the hand to excess, soft, responsive, vibrating,
quivering in subliminal excitement, the hand then slides softly around and
forward over to the magneto cover (a smaller and more exciting mound),
momentarily teasing a small finger through the slit in the timing cover.  
The stimulation of stroking the transmission side is of a darker sort,
requiring certain contortions of the hand to fully englobe (not everyone's cup
of tea, but hey, if you observe safe transmission case polishing
practises, this is a free world, right?) but exquisitely rewarding.
Soft, warm, contoured metal.  Give me UNIT or give me DEATH.

	66
	 >
	 ^ .................. brucer
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Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: R100GS bags at speed
From: rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker)
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:19:45 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Keywords: too fast

In article <ku1oehINN258@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master) writes:
>    On a more serious note:
>
>    Empirical testing has shown that,
>
>	WITH a 1992 R100GS,
>	WITH dual BMW saddlebags full of stuff,
>	WITH no appreciable crosswind or headwind,
>	WITH a smooth, straight, road,
>	WITH an attained speed of slightly over 100mph,
>	...there is no noticeable instability.


add twisties and a passenger (~180# (not laurie!)) and there is
still no noticable instability.



-- 
- bob pasker
  halfdome!bob@cs.sfsu.edu | rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu | rbp@well.sf.ca.us

Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12823 misc.forsale:13644 misc.wanted:4947 ne.forsale:1647 ne.wanted:499
From: zeleny@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale,misc.wanted,ne.forsale,ne.wanted
Subject: High-Performance BMW Parts for Sale
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:09:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr10.110905.10917
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.


FOR SALE OR TRADE:

A 1983 BMW-Krauser R100RS high performance engine/drivetrain.
Dell'Ortos, 4-valve heads (ported by Jerry Branch), Luftmeister springs
& wristpins.  Some other parts available.  $2000 or nearest offer.
Trade preferred.  Wanted in trade: Ducati or Laverda parts and bikes,
military & target firearms, old Leica or Hasselblad, or WHY.


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: Qu'est-ce qui est grand, fort, faible...                 doesn't   :
: Connais pas! Connais pas!                                 think    :
:                                                             so     :
: Mikhail Zeleny                                                     :
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: Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139           (617) 661-8151            :
: email zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu or zeleny@HUMA1.BITNET            :
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From: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: *Motorcycle For Sale*
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:14:19 GMT
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <EdsnlOO00WBME4maIo@andrew.cmu.edu> 
Steve Ha <sh4e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I have a 1 yr old Honda Turbo NJ1200 RR for sale. I bought it new for about
>$100,000 (U.S.) in Japan and brought it over last summer. Only 7 of them
>were made originaly.
  [ obviously fraudulent and flatulent claims deleted ]
>I am selling it because I am buying a new Honda NG750 RR, which is the
>racing version of Turbo NJ1200 RR.
>Tell me if you're interested.

I'm interested. 
I'll give you the slimy sweat from the palm of my left hand for it.

Steve Garnier - 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF Special with 156,000 miles and *climbing*
DoD #00000005 - KotF (The Daemon's Byte and Keeper of the Flame), NC Chapter
Internet:steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu  UUCP:{?,gatech,uunet}!mcnc!bucolix!steve
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@che.udel.edu (From the jumbled mind of Steve Andersen)
Subject: Re: Meta-flame, was: Re: Tank Bag for an FXRS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Delaware/Department of Chemical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.075145.14067@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes...
>In article <1APR199217030437@che.udel.edu> andersen@che.udel.edu (From the jumbled mind of Steve Andersen) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr1.180653.27000@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin) writes...
>>previously indicated by Seth in his own posts that
>>he truly does feel that Harleys are somehow 
>>"better" (for lack of a more appropriate word),
>>hence my reaction to his 'tude.
>>
> 
>He's right, so what's the problem?

Okay Jim, whatever you say...  

Better at what tho', leaking oil and dropping parts
on the road???? 

;-) ;-) ;-)

>>Those that know me well, know that I definitely do not
>>qualify as being wrapped too tight>
> 
>    We Knew That.

Thankyew...

>>Dunno, perhaps maybe Seth's "humor" has slipped by
>>me and spun me up.  It does happen occasionally.
>>
>    Thats ok steve, you're forgiven.

Ohhh, I feel much better know.  Thankyew Jim.

Why, I feel so good I think I'll go out and bop
some Harley dudes on the head at 105 mph on 
my Ducati using my front wheel while pulling
a power wheelie and running over little
girls with tennis balls.  Then I will do
a stoppie with my front wheel still off the ground
by defeating the laws of fizziks hence making my
bike weightless and allowing me to manuever in 
three dimensions so as to make it easier to bop
other red faced cherubs riding Harleys on the head
and forcing them to bow down to the Ducati altar of 
TRUE MOTORCYCLING WISDOM (tm).

Bake at 105 C for 105 minutes and spinkle liberally
with :-).  Serve flaming...

>Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
>1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
______________________________________________________________________________
 Steve Andersen                                   andersen@oscar.ccm.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 "I own two bikes, brand unimportant"  -- Jeff Kaskey 
 DoD #0239
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: CX500..what the hell
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:17:25 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University
Keywords: calumny

Others have complained about one feature that I had w/ the '80 Custom--my
knees would come in contact with the valve covers which could be
uncomfortable.  I didn't have the problem with the '81 Deluxe but thought it
was due to the larger tank.  The front foot peg mounts were a little different
on the '81 which put the pegs a couple inches back.  I swapped the pegs and my
knees no longer contact the valve covers on the Custom.
   The change required some other changes also: shift lever, brake pedal,
and (minimum) heat shields on the exhaust cross-over.  I swapped the whole
exhaust because the '80 needed mufflers.

Chas.
From: alw@sequent.com (Al Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bike Forsale
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:29:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr7.212959.315
Distribution: or
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.



I am selling a 1982 silver colored SilverWing/GL500. Completely setup
with factory fairing, hardbags (removable), and trunk. Less than 35K 
commute miles. A great bike for the commuter, student, or the weekend
rider heading to the mountains, gorge, or coast. 

Asking $1000.00/obo. 

Email, or call (503)578-4478 work, or (503)324-8482 evenings.
alw
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Re: Cited for wearing earplugs? (was Re: MOTORCYCLING MAKES YOU DEAF...)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 04:25:48 GMT

>the 1990 CVC has it under section 27400:
>    No person operating any motor vehicle or bicycle shall wear
>    any headset covering, or any earplugs in, both ears.  The prohibition of
>    this section does not apply to any of the following:
>...
>	c) Any person engaged in the operation of refuse collection
>	equipment who is wearing a safety headset or safety earplugs.

well then, all you have to do is carry a bag of garbage with you!
(and a copy of this page from the CVC)

noemi
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          5630 miles to ride until NM (Next Motorcycle)
		  "squid" : anyone who rides faster than me :-)
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From: brad@cs.utexas.edu (Brad Blumenthal)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: No centerstand? (was: Re: Yamaha Seca II)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 10:32:01 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.cs.utexas.edu

If you're headlight burns out, and you're really deperate, you can take
one of your front turn signal lenses off, remove the corresponding rear
turn signal bulb, turn on the turn signal, and use that as a bodge to
get you home.

Take care,
brad
DoD # 714 ("How's that?")
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:01:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Yet another way to get killed...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> You see these cattle gates embedded in the highway all over Colorado
> too. At least some brands of these gizmos are implemented as square
> panels that can be removed from the trough across the highway for
> cleaning and maintenance, and some of them can be put back in at a 90
> degree angle, meaning the slots in the grate are running parallel to
> --
> John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,        +1 303 497 1243

I suppose that you are speaking of a grate made up of square elements?

Gawd!!!  I hadn't thought of that happening!  Thanks for today's 
riding tip |-)

Ron
(Dual-Purpose means crossing cattle guards often-- shudder)
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:50:04 -0400 
From: John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: CB750F pipes

hey Yeah,

I have a 1980 CB750F and I will be needing to replace the pipes and
mufflers an it sometime this season. I would like to do this myself. If
any body has any recomandations at where to look or what to use for
replacements. I would like to try and get some more low to midrange
power out of it. I know this can be effected by the exaust/rejetting but
am not sure of the relationship. Any and all information would be
appreciated. And any good stories from other CB750 riders would be
greatly appreciated (except for possible J. Deeny)

NADZ
DoD #528

'winder up and lets go, she's running real real mean now, com'on baby
lets go, hot dog and a shake' D. Roth
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaded or Unleaded
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:56:10 GMT
Organization: Acme Flamethrowers

In article <1992Apr13.211341.2371@acsu.buffalo.edu> v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman) writes:
+
+	A friend of mine has a question for his bike.  ...

Let us know what the bike's answer is.

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: O.K., How About DoD MousePads?????
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:47:56 GMT

My wife's office partner's wife suggested the ultimate DoD goody.  She said
that since all people on the net are, to some extent, computer types, how 
about MousePads with the Denizen logo?

O.K. folks, how 'bout it?  I have some pricing that would put the six color
logo at around $6 each.  This does not include a markup for the museum fund,
sales tax that I have to pay, or shipping and handling to you.  

I'd speculate that I'd put the cost at around $10 each plus a buck for S&H.

Any interest.

Arnie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brad@spike.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker)
Subject: Re: preliminary tally FG vs. GS
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:22:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.093442.1744@nic.csu.net>, rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
> i'm taking a poll of people who have FJ11/1200s and R100/80gs's to see
> which one is the REAL DoD bike of choice.  send your responses to me.
> 
> so far:
> 
> GS
> -----------------------------------------------
> 1. Bob Pasker           rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu
> 2. Laurie Abbott        bl.lxa@rlg.stanford.edu
> 3. Landon Dyer          landon@apple.com
> 4. Henry Pasternak      henry@ginger.sri.com
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey Bob, I think you're cheating. Henry sold his GS last year to a 
guy I work with. (He didn't buy another one, did he?)

____
Brad Whitaker  Teknekron Communications Systems   Berkeley, CA  USA
brad@tcs.com   (510)649-3815     DoD #1000 
I own two Hondas, model unimportant.
From: jsw@umiacs.umd.edu (Jeff Webber)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Laser "radar"
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:43:36 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Apr9.134345.27149@news.iastate.edu> twln5@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>   Conclusion... This is a toy for only the most zealous police who
>yearn to "zap" those who dodge normal radar.  I wonder if it will
>become at all popular... you think they'd just use a stopwatch and save 
>$4500.Our Friend, the Government! Hmph.

Thats  OK.  Here in Maryland the police were given some of these new
"laser" speed units.   Geico insurance company paid for them.

jeff



-- 
Jeff Webber /   U of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
path: uunet!mimsy!jsw  phone (301)-405-6746 jsw@umiacs.umd.edu  DoD #243
From: cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley-Davidson Brand Oil
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:48:30 GMT
Organization: Astm Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>   In all of the recent moto-gas I have noticed new adds for H-D bramd
                                         ^^^^^^^
>oil.  This oil is supposedly made especially for the thumping nature of
>the V-twin.  My question is does the bottles that the oil comes in leak
>as much oil as the bikes themselves?  And if so was this designed in to
>provide more realism? :-))
    
  >  Sorry about that it was really to easy, and is coming up on finals
>so I have to make sure I am stress free before then. B-/

	I have no idea what kind of brain lock made me type moto-gas, I of
course meant Moto-Mags.  Oh well!

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