HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss
Date: 15 Nov 92 13:41:37 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <92319.180953MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>, <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> I was amazingly disappointed by _Revenge_, they promised another _DEstroyer_,
> and what happened was a really really bad album...
> 
If they *did* put out something as good as/better than _Destroyer_,
nobody would think it was.  _Destroyer_ was a special album at a
special time.  It had its share of lame stuff---namely, "Beth" and
"Great Expectations".

> I copied the 3 best songs off it (Unholy, God Gave Rock n' Roll to You II, and
> I Just Wanna) and got $5.00 for it from the local used CD store...
> 
> Man, that album *bites*...
> 
I don't see how.  The only lame stuff on it is "Every Time I Look At
You", which is not bad for being a ballad.  Other great songs on it
include "Thou Shalt Not" (one of my favorites---Gene sings about real
life---quite a change for him!), "Domino", "Take It Off", and
"Paralyzed".

I think one thing that people have to keep in mind is that the KISS
that recorded _Revenge_ is not the same KISS that recorded
_Destroyer_.  When people heard that _Revenge_ was going to be another
_Destroyer_, I guess they figured the sound would go back to that. 
_Revenge_ is the next level in the KISS sound---a much, much harder
sound than the Peter Criss/Ace Frehley era.  I'm glad they've grown
over the years (yes, I see it as growth).  The early stuff is classic,
but all bands change.

I could mention that Rush, which you quoted from in your signature,
hasn't done an album recently that begins to compare with _Moving
Pictures_, but I don't want to start another wave of Rush posts.  Rush
has changed, though the members have stayed the same.  Bands that
don't change fade away or just breakup.

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson)
Subject: Re: WASP: The Crimson Idol
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:49:41 GMT

   I got my Crimson Idol at a CD store in the middle of nowhere for
$23 so I'm sure anyone can have there local record store import it for
that much.  It's not hard to come by, just needs to be imported.
Good luck!



Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: sfo@milton.u.washington.edu (Stephen Omalley)
Subject: SHOWS IN LA 12/20/92-1/93
Keywords: SHOWS IN LA 12/20/92-1/93
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:59:20 GMT

Are there any cool shows happening in the LA area from 12/20/92 to
1/93???? I am going to be in the area and would like to catch a few 
(hopefully GRINDCORE/DEATHMETAL [my preferance] ). Please E-mail me 
if anyone knows of any (Hell,actually any in S. cali would be nice too).

					Thanks,
					Stephen F. O'Malley 
					sfo@u.washington.edu
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:12026 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:4610
From: ytsanyd@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: WASP: The Crimson Idol
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:06:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


As to the reason why The Crimson Idol has not been released in the US is because
Blackie is very pissed with the American branch of the recorrd label
From what he said in an interview in Kerran about 3 months before the album
came out he said he would have made an album of covers just to piss the
record company off but he realized it would be an immature thing
to do so he decided to make The Headless Children and be done with the
record to fullfill contractual obligations.

He was rather pissed b/c Capitol was making all of the money from these
releases although I don't think Blackie is doing to bad b/c in these
interviews Blackie started to talk about his Jags...

The band is new the album is great and I sure hope he tours. Circus said
he is setting up a US club tour at this time. It will definitely be
one of this year's better tours since it is by far one of the better
albums..

Also the reason why he chose to keep the WASP name is because record comapines
oops record stores will stock WASP albums but the may be leary of stocking
a Blackie Lawless record.

If you don't have this disc yet rush out and buy it as well as the two
cd singles. The singles have some b sides which add to the story line.
This album is extremely autobiographical so if you have followed WASP at
any point this may help you figure Blackie out.

****  ******  *****     ******     ******     ------------------------------
*  *  *   *   *   *    *    *     *    *      |David Howard                |
*  * *   *    *   *   *    ****  *    ****    |Internet Address            |
*      *      *   *  *****   *  *****   *     |ytsanyd@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  |
*  *     *    *   *     *   *      *   *      |It's a hit or miss, an eye  |
*  *  *   *   *   *    *   *      *   *       |for an eye  Live for today, |
*  *   *   *  *   *   *   *      *   *        |and don't ask why  - Gene - |
****    ***** *****  *****      *****         ------------------------------
          


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll
From: savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Subject: Tony Martin Solo Album
Keywords: I'm Looking for Tony Martin's Solo CD
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:35:43 GMT

	I've been told that Tony Martin (lead singer: Black Sabbath,
	and Forcefield II) put out a solo album.... Does anyone have
	any more info on this? (ie: title/label/availability/etc..?)

	I asked around at a CD store here locally and all they came
	up with was a CD called "Warm and Wonderful"... Is this the
	correct title? Or is that a different Tony Martin?

		Thanks,

			Brent

	savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
From: MVO100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Rock instrumenals guitarists
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:26:58 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Speaking of instrumental guitartist, has anyone seen the former House of Lords
guitartist solo CD? It is supposedly all instrumental and has former HOL bandma
te, and drum god, Ken Mary. Anyone heard it?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: Running Wild
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:31:40 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Disclaimer: Death before disco
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

>In article <1992Nov23.100300.18392@kth.se>, d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:

> And since then they have released some kind of compilation including a bunch
> of old songs, possibly re-recorded. I don't remember what it's called...

 It is titled "The first years of piracy" but it doesn't have any previously  
 unreleased material. I saw recently a new (?) CD single in a local store but can't 
 remember any titles. 

--
 =================================================
 I E-mail: mega@lut.fi                           I
 I "And when you kill a man, you're a murderer   I
 I  Kill many, and you're conqueror              I
 I  Kill them all...you're a God!"  - Megadeth - I
 =================================================
From: MVO100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Shotgun Messiah new album?
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:33:30 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In the new release sheet, I saw Shotgun Messiah - I want more- to be released o
n Nov. 17. I know this is a song by them, so is it a single ( if so why was it
in new CD releases), or a new CD. Any info anyone?
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Running Wild
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:33:30 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Pikametallimiehet (Speed Metal Men), Finland
Disclaimer: Death before disco


> In article <By4r60.84y@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge) writes:

> I was wondering, what ever happened to the German metal band Running Wild.
> I have most of their albums, save the first one Branded and Exiled, and
> think that they really kick some ass.  After their last release Death or
> Glory.  I was wondering if any one knew what happened to the band, or
> if they had another release since Death or Glory.  Thanks a bunch!

 "Blazon stone" has been released after "Death or glory" but it has been a
 long time since it was put out...IMHO "Blazon stone" is the worst Running
 Wild record..."Under Jolly Roger" & "Port Royal" are the best ones...


 
--
 =================================================
 I E-mail: mega@lut.fi                           I
 I "And when you kill a man, you're a murderer   I
 I  Kill many, and you're conqueror              I
 I  Kill them all...you're a God!"  - Megadeth - I
 =================================================
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: s7280041@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s7280041)
Subject: Re: Pepper/Pearl Jam Tours?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:30:00 GMT

In article <alwalsh.721650291@unix1.tcd.ie>, alwalsh@unix1.tcd.ie (andreas laurence walsh) writes...
>Hey, people with taste!!! Can you help???
> 
>Does anyone know of any possible Pearl Jam or Red Hot Chilli Pepper
>tours coming the European route?? I know Peppers are in Australia, but
>Pearl Jam I don't have a clue??
> 
>Taa very much,
> 
>Andreas Walsh.
> 
>P.S. Check those albums!!!!!!! 
>     Kinda cool!

	Who the hell could care less?????????!!!!!!!!!!!
and if someone out there does care--->DON'T REPLY CAUSE I DON'T NEED
TO FRICKIN' HEAR ABOUT IT!!!!

   Before any one tries to defend these bands... check out one of the
latest Rolling Stone mags with both lead singers deep throating each
other.  There probably never going to tour(thank god) because there
tooooo busy with each other on hershey highway!

had to get if off my chest,
Tom
From: cress@shadow.ksu.ksu.edu (Garrett C Cress)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: A quest. on Satriani
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:31:23 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shadow.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: none



I have only one Satriani album that being Not of this Earth.
While I think this one is very good, I was wondering if those
of you out there more knowlegeable on the guy than I am
could tell me what his best album is and what some of his best
individual songs are.  I am thinking of buying another and
would like to spend my money wisely.

					Thanks,
					the gmeister


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: ACSOP25@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (Lance Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Alice In Chains\Gruntruck\Screaming Trees
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:31:37 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.appstate.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

If any of you get the opportunity to see this amazing tour, by all means do so.
I was lucky enough to see the show this past Friday in Charlotte N.C. and it
was great.  

Gruntruck kicked off the show and did some stuff off of both of their CD's. 
short but very good.  Get there early so you wont'miss them
The Screaming Trees were great as well.  It goes without saying that AIC
kicked ass.  There set was much better than there set I saw on the Ozzy tour.

By the way, most of you probably have the AIC new one, so do yourself a favor
and buy the Screaming Trees' "Sweet Oblivion" and especially Gruntruck's 
"Push".

The Sinister One
Tom just smoked live.  He is a very cool guitar player.  There set was very
From: angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One At The Bridge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Running Wild
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:25:10 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I was wondering, what ever happened to the German metal band Running Wild.
I have most of their albums, save the first one Branded and Exiled, and
think that they really kick some ass.  After their last release Death or
Glory.  I was wondering if any one knew what happened to the band, or
if they had another release since Death or Glory.  Thanks a bunch!

	angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
"I bring Love to give you solace in the darkness of the night" - Rush
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: csi011@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Zookeeper)
Subject: Re: "Running white faced city boy" original performer ???
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:47:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.220152.10055@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <MEGA.92Nov19182057@taipaani.cc.lut.fi> mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil) writes:
>>
>> Just listened my dormmates Xentrix "For whose adavantage?" CD and I noticed
>> there's a cover song titled "Running white faced city boy". It is written by
>> Colin Twones and published by Pussy music ltd./Chappel msuic ltd.
>> Does anybody know whose the original performer of this song ?
>>
>Hmmm. Collin Townes and published by Pussy Music? My guess is Gillan or Ian
>Gillan Band or whatever they called themselves at that time.
>

The band was Gillan and its on the "Glory Road" album.

-- 
__

Zookeeper  alias   csi011@uk.ac.coventry.cch
Flesh              John Castle.
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:13:09 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

lrose@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (punskovsky,linda r) writes:

> In article <2wy5TB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs
> > I'm a wee bit confused as to all of the positive messages concerning 
> >Kiss. 
> > Is it just be, or was Kiss THE inspiration for Spinal Tap? How can 
> >anyone who hasn't been locked in a dark room for most of their lives get 
> >into that kind of sexist, juvenile rubbish? Metal is power, metal is 
> >energy...as far as I'm concerned, commercial hacks like Kiss just don't 
> >cut it.
> > 
> >marlowe
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark B
> >pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Oh, give me a break.  KISS was awesome when they first came out back in what 
> '76.  They were _the_ heavy band, and who else could of thought up the make-u
> and the fire breathing.  Yeah, if you compare KISS now to all the other bands
> they are in the majority, but back in '77, they were hot and NOT commercial.
> 
> 
> Lin

 
 So what if they wore funky make-up? Didn't seem to make their music any 
more interesting...
 
marlowe

------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Ricky's hair
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:44:25 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Nov17.190723.2525@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.174450.21940@pellns.alleg.edu> goetzj@carn11.alleg.edu (Justin Goetz) writes:
>>Just for the hell , of it does anyone out there think that Ricky Rachman's  
>>hair looks really stupid? It was ok when it was long and he was wearing a
>>long sleeve shirt but nowhe looks like a New Kid On The Block.
>>
>>		Justin
>In my opinion, Rikki Rachtman looks stupid. Period. Hair or no hair.
>
>philip

I don't really mind that he looks stupid but I hate the fact that he's
such a poser.

	__    __                            __   __
	 |\  /|  __  __    _   __   __  ___  |   |
	 | \/ |  |_  | _  /_\  | \  |_   |   |---|
	 |    |  |_  |_| /   \ |_/  |_   |   |   |
	/                                         \
	  There's unknown tools for World War III.
     Einstein said "We'll use rocks on the other side".
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:38:53 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

10563563@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ARTHUR GIANNAKIS) writes:

> In article <2wy5TB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs
> >From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
> >Subject: Kiss
> >Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:11:00 EST
> > I'm a wee bit confused as to all of the positive messages concerning 
> >Kiss. 
> > Is it just be, or was Kiss THE inspiration for Spinal Tap? How can 
> >anyone who hasn't been locked in a dark room for most of their lives get 
> >into that kind of sexist, juvenile rubbish? Metal is power, metal is 
> >energy...as far as I'm concerned, commercial hacks like Kiss just don't 
> >cut it.
> > 
> >marlowe
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark B
> >pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> 
> 
> Funny how all these years later, people slag off KISS, even though they 
> helped metal to be what it is today.........Talk about biting off the hand 
> that once fed you.....................
> 
> 			Keep Bangin'....................
> 				The Metallian.

 
 The only thing that KISS helped is the "bad" half of metal (as opposed, 
of course, to the "good" half). You know, the freaks who place image 
above music, think misogeny is tougness, etc....

marlowe

------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark BBS
pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: roseba@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bruce A Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss
Date: 16 Nov 1992 04:41:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: roseba@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bruce A Rose)
NNTP-Posting-Host: purple.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Nov13.072911.28455@ugle.unit.no> pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per  
Annar Sandaune) writes:
> In article <2wy5TB5w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>,  
pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe) writes:
> |>  I'm a wee bit confused as to all of the positive messages concerning 
> |> Kiss. 
> |>  Is it just be, or was Kiss THE inspiration for Spinal Tap? How can 
> |> anyone who hasn't been locked in a dark room for most of their lives  
get 
> |> into that kind of sexist, juvenile rubbish? Metal is power, metal is 
> |> energy...as far as I'm concerned, commercial hacks like Kiss just  
don't 
> |> cut it.
> |>  
> |> marlowe
> |> 
> |>  
------------------------------------------------------------------darkpark  
BBS
> |> pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
> |>  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
----
> 
> If you don't like Kiss, it's alright for me and for all other Kiss fans.   
Pity you.
> 
> sandis

I agree. Kiss is a great band (although they were better with the orignal  
line-up). And Spinal Tap (the movie) seemed to mimick a lot of bands (esp.  
Kiss and Aerosmith).

da Gooch
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Tony Martin Solo Album
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:10:54 GMT

stuff about Tony Martin solo deleted
>
>    Musicians are:	Zack Starkey, Nigel Glockler - drums
>    			Neil Murray - bass
>    			Geoff Nicholls - keyboards
>    			Brian May - guitar
>
Hey, those guys all sounds really familiar. Were they all just guesting for
Tony Martin or are they members? I remember Zak Starkey being a member of
ASAP (Adrian Smith And Project) and Nigel Glockler a member of Saxon. I guess
Queen is gone and Geezer Butler is back with Black Sabbath now, but I was
just observing something.

philip
Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Megadeth/ST at the Ritz in NY
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:25:41 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


	Well, Friday, I had the distinct honor of getting a free ticket to
this show.  In all, I had a blast.  Now to specifics:
	
	Getting There:

	Whoever said "Getting there is half the fun" was fucking stoned.
First of all, taking the subway thru NY is a chore in itself, then the
station closest to the Ritz is closed due to "police activities," so we
had to walk about ten blocks before finally confirming that we were indeed
heading TOWARDS the Ritz.

	Suicidal Tendencies:
	
	After getting our tix, we quickly rushed to the front and waited for
ST to come on.  The place got packed in a hurry and some prelim moshing began
when Pantera's album came thru the speakers.  After a short delay, ST came
on and pretty much sucked at the root.  Mike Muir thought it necessary to give
a long-winded and totally inaudible speech at the beginning of every song.
Of the songs they played, much of the lyrix were left out in the hopes that
the crowd would chime in and sing them.  Sorry, but I didn't go to hear a 
crowd of half-drunk moshers sing.

	Megadeth:
	
	The Ritz virtually exploded when Megadeth hit the stage.  They played
a wide variety of stuff off of all their albums and played 2 encores:
	Symphony of Destruction and Peace Sells
	& Anarchy in the UK

	I spent half of the Megadeth set in the brutal pit and the other half
attempting to hoist some groupie up so she could flash David Ellefson, but I
still got a good listen and enjoyed their performance.

	In all, I had a great time.  I would have to say, though, that had I
paid the usual $20-$30 for the ticket, I would have left VERY disappointed.
Then again, I probably wouldn't have spent money to see ST.  I like a number
of their songs, but haven't been sufficiently impressed to see them live.

					IMHO,
						Raythrax
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Danzig in Pittsburgh
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:08:57 GMT

In article <of1IzdC00awQ8h7UU2@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Whee! Danzig is coming to Pittsburgh on Dec. 4 at City Limits. I got my
>tickets yesterday. This is on the last day of classes so it will be
>really great to blow off steam after classes are all over by going to
>this show. Does anybody know if White Zombie is still opening for him.
>I'd be disappointed not to see them. The ticket has Kyuss opening for
>him but no other act and Kyuss sucks. I'd much rather see White Zombie.
>
>******


Danzig is playing First Ave. in Minneapolis tomorrow, November 16th, with
White Zombie and Kyuss. After that I cannot say...

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: Looking for rock instrumentals
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:37:37 GMT

Someone mentioned Chris Poland's "Return to Metalopolis" in a list
regarding the subject line. (Chris Poland was Megadeth's guitarist on the
first two releases) It's highly recommended. I would love to see Chris and
his brother put out another one; anyone know of what they are doing now?