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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Subject: recycling logo
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:12:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

I am looking for an EPS version of the recycling logo (the one with
the three curved arrows forming a circle). Does anyone know where
I could download one?

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Reply-To:     "Lauren H. Arango" <LHARANGO@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
From:         "Lauren H. Arango" <LHARANGO@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      Russian/Cyrillic font

Jeffrey Needleman asks:

>Can anyone recommend a good freeware/shareware Russian and/or Cyrillic font
>to use with Windows 3.1, either Postscript Type 1 or True Type, which is
>available for ftp on the net?

I am looking for this as well.  If anyone has any answers, could you please
post to the whole list, or send a response to me in addition to Jeffrey?

Thanks!
                                Lauren H. Arango
                                Ohio Wesleyan University
                                lharango@owucomcn.bitnet
                                lharango@cc.owu.edu
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Subject: re: two questions

Jeff Stai -- have you tried saving your wordperfect files down to WordPerfect
PC 5.0?  This might help...  Also, I assume you ARE checking the box in the
Place dialog box that says "Read Tags?"  and you have an X in the box right?

Regarding bullet, I've never been successful in having a bullet style inside
 the same paragraph as my text.  Remember all styles in PageMaker are PARAGRAPH
styles, that means you can NOT apply two styles to the same paragraph using the
style palette's definitions.  (You can apply one style to the whole paragarph
and then highlight part of the paragraph and manually change the highlighted
protion...)

cindy stone
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Reply-To:     Reina Tebby <DASRDT@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>
From:         Reina Tebby <DASRDT@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>
Subject:      Disk 1

I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) recently, but I don't remember
the answer, now that I need it...

I have a friend trying to install PM4.01 on an LCII (4 MB RAM) running Sys 7.

She follows the install procedure to a certain point, then she is asked to
insert disk 1.  When she puts disk 1 in, she still gets the message to insert
disk 1.  At this point, she can do nothing but cancel, which exits her from
the install procedure, giving a message that the install was incomplete.

Can someone tell me
1.  why this happens?  (I've had no trouble installing on
    a Quadra 700 or a IIci, both with System 7)
2.  how to get around it?

Thanks for any help

Reina Tebby
Information Centre
University of Western Ontario
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:11:01 +0100
Reply-To:     Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
From:         Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
Subject:      PM4 Mac Vs RasterOps

Problem: PageMaker 4.0 on IIcx with RasterOps card bombs

Full description: A multi-Mac site has a wierd problem with
PageMaker. One of the Macs, a IIcx 4M RAM, 100M Quantum drive now
but originally Apple 40M drive, and a RasterOps ColorBoard 708+
ROM revision 1.04E bombs PageMaker 4.0 when the colour menu is
selected. The same problem also occurs with FreeHand 3.0 when
colours are edited. NO OTHER APPLICATION FAILS IN THIS WAY!

The Mac is running System 6.0.7 and has absolutely minimal INITs;
Suitcase II, SAM, ATM, TypeReunion and TOPS. Its identical
brother uses a Radius colour card and has no problems at all
which makes me suspect the RasterOps board is having a conflict
somewhere. This problem has persisted since PageMaker upgraded
from 3.0 to 3.5 (For the US readers - 3.5 was the interim upgrade
that introduced the colour palette, I believe you guys bought it
as Color Extension).

Neither Aldus nor RasterOps here in the UK have any advice worth
a light other than the obvious ``It's a conflict...'' We've
obviously tried disabling the various INITS but with no
repeatable, and I stress REPEATABLE, success. The System has been
reloaded, as have all the applications, etc. The only thing I've
not yet tried is a complete rebuild from scratch following a
reformat. The site could (just) live without TOPS and is NOT
prepared to move to System 7 (for their own reasons - not mine).

Has anyone had a similar or repeatable experience? And, better,
has anyone any answers?

Thanks, Henry
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:38:49 MDT
Reply-To:     Vladimir Kubak <KUBAK@CSEARN.BITNET>
From:         Vladimir Kubak <KUBAK@CSEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Polish characters

> Does enyone know how I can use polish characters in PM4 IBM?
> Do I have to buy special fonts?
> Do I have to get an Addition to PM4?

Mirek,

You will need special font at least, maybe whole environment
(i.e. keyboard, translation table...), all for Windows itself.
You don't have to get any special addition to PM4.

East European market (maybe not all, but Czechoslovakian surely)
is full of such products, all produced by local developers, so
I don't know if it can be reached in US. All these products uses
one of 3 or 4 standards of coding.

If You want closer information, e-mail me directly.
HTH


Vladimir Kubak          kubak@csearn.bitnet
Palacky University      kubak@earn.cvut.cs
Olomouc
Czechoslovakia
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:23:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
From:         "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
Subject:      Russian/Cyrillic font for Windows 3.1?

Can anyone recommend a good freeware/shareware Russian and/or Cyrillic font
to use with Windows 3.1, either Postscript Type 1 or True Type, which is
available for ftp on the net?

Thanks.

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:48:52 -0800
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From:         Ken Weiss <KRWEISS@UCDAVIS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Disk 1

>She follows the install procedure to a certain point, then she is asked to
>insert disk 1.  When she puts disk 1 in, she still gets the message to insert
>disk 1.  At this point, she can do nothing but cancel, which exits her from
>the install procedure, giving a message that the install was incomplete.
>
>Can someone tell me
>1.  why this happens?  (I've had no trouble installing on
>    a Quadra 700 or a IIci, both with System 7)

It's a glitch in early releases of System 7, fixed (I think) by System
Tune-Up 1.1.1.

>2.  how to get around it?

At the request to insert Disk 1, type <command>-.  (that is, hold down the
command key and type a period). That will cancel the dialog box and permit
insertion of Disk 2.

If you look at the dialog boxes carefully, you'll see that the PM installer
is putting up a request for Disk 2, and the MacOS is responsible for the
box asking for Disk 1.
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Ken Weiss                   krweiss@ucdavis.edu
Information Technology      916/752-5554
U.C. Davis
Davis, CA 95616             916/752-9154 (fax)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:27:29 CDT
Reply-To:     Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      EPS Knockouts from PageMaker Windows

Hey gang-

I have a client that is "dead-set" against Macs but needs to create spot color
overlays from PC/PM with proper EPS knockouts.  I've seen the coming PC/PM 5.0
do this, but alas we all know 4.0 will not without the help of a Mac and
PrePrint.  Does anyone have a good [read elegant] solution for creating spot
color overlays from a PageMaker file with "placed" EPS files that runs solely
on the PC (perhaps Hijack or some other solution)?  And if there is a "real"
solution can you control trapping (choke and spread) of the individual colors
or does it give you their "best guess" default.



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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:10:06 +0100
Reply-To:     Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
From:         Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
Subject:      Re: recycling logo

In article <92Sep11.201210.34846@acs.ucalgary.ca>, powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca
(Jim B. Powlesland) writes...
>I am looking for an EPS version of the recycling logo (the one with
>the three curved arrows forming a circle). Does anyone know where
>I could download one?
>
There's a recycler font on Sumex that has a whole bunch of
symbols. It's a bit odd to use - the symbols are mapped to alpha
characters - but it does a decent job.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:37:54 EST
Reply-To:     John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
From:         John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Russian/Cyrillic font

Jeffrey Needleman asks:

>Can anyone recommend a good freeware/shareware Russian and/or Cyrillic font
>to use with Windows 3.1, either Postscript Type 1 or True Type, which is
>available for ftp on the net?

I am looking for this as well.  If anyone has any answers, could you please
post to the whole list, or send a response to me in addition to Jeffrey?

Thanks!
                                Lauren H. Arango
                                Ohio Wesleyan University
                                lharango@owucomcn.bitnet
                                lharango@cc.owu.edu


try ftp at mac.archive.umich.edu
From: ejray@OKWAY.OKSTATE.EDU (Eric J. Ray)
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Subject: Re: Russian/Cyrillic font
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:48:30 GMT
Reply-To: "Eric J. Ray" <ejray@OKWAY.OKSTATE.EDU>
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>Can anyone recommend a good freeware/shareware Russian and/or Cyrillic font
>to use with Windows 3.1, either Postscript Type 1 or True Type, which is
>available for ftp on the net?

I saw one at wuarchive.wustl.edu, somewhere in mirrors2/win3/fonts. Get the
INDEX and check it out. We discussed the fonts being locked, and I don't know if
they still are or not.

Eric
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:31:53 EST
Reply-To:     John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
From:         John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disk 1

I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) recently, but I don't remember
the answer, now that I need it...

I have a friend trying to install PM4.01 on an LCII (4 MB RAM) running Sys 7.

She follows the install procedure to a certain point, then she is asked to
insert disk 1.  When she puts disk 1 in, she still gets the message to insert
disk 1.  At this point, she can do nothing but cancel, which exits her from
the install procedure, giving a message that the install was incomplete.

Can someone tell me
1.  why this happens?  (I've had no trouble installing on
    a Quadra 700 or a IIci, both with System 7)
2.  how to get around it?

Thanks for any help

Reina Tebby
Information Centre
University of Western Ontario

I believe you type command key and the period and it should force the installer
to go on.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:17:02 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      call for essays

Thought a copy of this might elicit some response here (similar notices
have gone to PMC-list, SCREEN-L, and other lists)


===============================================================
^WITHOUT ANY RULES: The POLITICS AND POETICS OF THE VERNACULAR^

We are seeking original, article-length essays on vernacular art-
forms in a postcolonial/postmodern context, including music, oral
poetry, post-colonial writing/criticism, vernacular festivals or
other practices, vernacular architecture, film, video, or other
appropriations of space/language/technology.  Some examples might
be: hip-hop music, graffiti, raves, dance parties, blues, jazz,
reggae, postcoloial fiction & poetry, home videos, sampling,
pastiche, photo-collage, xerox art.

We're not just looking for critical essays, we're also looking
for reflective essays by novelists, musicians, actors, graffiti
artists, dancers, DJ's and others whose art can be thought of as
"vernacular."

Abastracts/proposals/papers may be sent by e-mail to rapotter@
colby.edu.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:10:26 EDT
From:         Walter Keller <WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      covers

More cover shit: As far as Russ' band goes ,too bad you don't have that
female singer anymore, because from what you said it sounds like the kind
of stuff I want to do with my new very fledgling group, i.e. B. Raitt, Pat
Benatar (I like the bluesy album she did). I forget who suggested Angel
From Montgomery but we did that one too in the last band - loved it as the
piano-playing fool that I am - "Willin" by Feat fits that genre too.

Anyway, power rockish-male player type stuff: How about some hoppin Feat?
"Rocket in my Pocket" ?, "Fat Man in the Bathtub" ?, "Dixie Chicken" ?,
or my favorite spine splitter "Spanish Moon" ? All these can be done, dare
I say it?, without keyboards and would definitely interrupt any conversation
in the room (oh yeah how about "Tripe Face Boogie" ??

Now if I could just get my hands on a violin player - Michelle, how far away
from Ithaca NY are you ? I could do one of my alltime favorites "White Bird"
by It's A Beautiful Day. Then we could get into that Fairport, Pentangle -
type stuff someone else suggested.

  *******************************************************************

Sonia: I just turned 40 and am trying like hell to grow a decent ponytail
again - for the 1st time in 15 years or so. Hair's getting a little thinner,
though. Wear alot of black - tryin to get that Stevie Ray image, ya know...
We bluesmen always be wearing black cuz it's kool, ya know... Actually, I
just decided to fuck it and get back to my old days/old ways - I work for
a university so they can't screw with me - ha !. Heh, I know I'm losing it
but I'm trying to get it right at least once .

Carol: I like the calendar idea - I'll donate all 135 lbs of me...in fact I'll
even try the winter scenario as long as you bring the chocolate syrup for
my 'snowcone'.


"come all you roving minstrels, and together we will try...
 to rouse the spirit of the earth, and move the rolling sky..."
                                                       Fairport

                                                               ...wck...
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:35:00 CDT
From:         G_SWANK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Television (the band)

I read in the Oct. issue of Request magazine that Television, one of
my favorite bands of all time, is back together and recording an album.
Does anyone out there know anything more on this. When's it coming out?
Are they going to tour?
Thanks
Sallie
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:46:55 CDT
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From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      Cyrus...

 I'm gettin' sick of B.R. Cyrus now.
 I used to do the "Achy-Breaky", but now??? Forget it!
 Country and Western is all I hear when I go home on weekends,
 and I'm forever and a day turned against it because of that fact.
 (Why don't my folks ever listen to some "REAL" music... like Chicago,
 or Genesis, or Sting???)
 OH well...
 Hey, even at MY house, Bach is outlawed... Country is preferred form.
 I'm the "oddball" in that I listen to just about everything BUT
 C&W.
 THERESA   "G"

 * <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:26:11 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Friday follies
              at Sep 7, 92 2:09 am

Derek on Lollapalooza:

>And the female dancers in bondage outfits with deer antlers on their heads
>were interesting.  Unfortunately, it was kinda late in the day and I didn't
>feel like slamming up by the stage.  I guess your friends did get there late,
>Ministry was the second to last act.

	Hmmm, dancers in bondage with antlers. It must've been interesting.
The guys that went from here apparently spent a lot of time at the sideshows,
and returned went the Peppers came on......dopes!

>I just would have liked some more of that so-called diversity.  A raggae band,
>an acoustic band, something like that.  The individual bands did well, although
>I of course like some better then others...it wasn't like last year when Living
>Colour seemed totally dead.

	Last week, Living Colour played an impromptu show at a bar here in
town called "Ralphs". Of course, I didn't hear about it till it was too late,
but I still don't know if I would've went.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:59:23 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: True Religion
              "crispen" at Sep 11, 92 12:21 pm

>
> Or this one which was on a Rocky and Bullwinkle show -- a house
> wrecking company called Edifice Wrecks.
> +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
> | Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen        |            "IT FOUND ME!"            |
> | crispen@foxy.boeing.com       |      Campus Crusade for Cthulhu      |
> +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
>
I was distressed to learn that Rev. Bob Bob watches Rocky and Bullwinkle.

I think that any pot who looks like Fred Flintstone has no right to call
the kettle "lite."

Amen to the Blues Jam Legend award to Johnny Shines.  Looking forward to your
review of the weekend, L.W.

Finally, so this post won't be pure fluff, here is a little something on "my
man" Ray Charles from an article in Esquire (1986):

Ray mostly knows people by the sounds they make, and he moves with breathtaking
ease from a south Georgia sharecropper slur to the cool disdainful Fifties
jazzman to a bland white lockjaw to the flat twangy plaint of the upland
southern hick.  Ray was raised by two women, his real mother (his father's
mistress) and his father's wife.  One of the most important voices is that of a
black matron, sometimes a churchgoing disciplinarian and sometimes a little bit
sassy.  He calls everybody "honey" (pronounced "HUH-naeh") in this voice, and
it is not so much a term of endearment as a prod or a whip, cracked over its
subject as a motive to get up and move.

------
 I think this is an interesting point about a musician, the ability to hear and
capture many voices... don't you think most good (= interesting) music does
this?  (I don't mean just vocals in a literal sense)  As if a GOOD musician is
a kind of organ (no remarks Carol--where IS Carol?) with all sorts of
stops/voices to pull out when needed...  oh well
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:02:49 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Spaced Out

Despite the lack of OMC, I thought this might interest (some of) y'all:


 From the Richmond, Virginia Times-Dispatch, Monday, September 7, 1992
                     (reprinted without permission)

             FIRM HELPS EARTHLINGS SEND MESSAGES INTO SPACE

                        By the Associated Press

Boston -- If you had a chance to send one message into deep space, to
whomever -- or whatever -- might be listening, what wisdom or important
information would you share?

Suggestions ranging from "Hi Mom" to "Dad, is that you?" to "You never
call, you never write" have been rolling in to Dun and Bradstreet Soft-
ware.

The company solicited the messages a part of a promotion for its quart-
erly "World Tour" magazine, a world business and technology news review.

The magazine is sent free to about 126,000 subscribers, and publisher
Steve Klein's office in suburban Framingham was flooded with more than
1,000 faxed responses.

"I was amazed at the range and the creativity of the responses we re-
ceived," he said.

The first reply, from Lincoln, Neb., remains his favorite: "Use the
small fork for your salad, and please don't land in Uncle Gilbert's
wheat field any more."

Dun & Bradstreet Software, part of the Wall Street rating and infor-
mation giant, plans to have the messages transmitted from a mobile
satellite dish on September 18.  The transmitter will be aimed into
deep space, not at any orbiting communication satellites.

"We're going to speak slowly.  Whoever is listening, English isn't their
first language," Klein said.

Some readers responded as if they were auditioning for a comedy program:

o "We have pictures of your sister."
o "Can you hold, please?"
o "The people on this planet call me Marcus Curtis Koepke.  It's prob-
   ably a good idea to talk to me first."
o "Attention: the sooner everyone realizes that the money they have
   belongs to me, the easier the transition will be."
o "We are a race which explodes upon each new day with a child's
   curiosity.  By the way, if anyone finds this, please send grownups."

Others took the idea more seriously.

"I am an immigrant to America.  It has been a wonderful experience. I
would like to be an immigrant to your world an to invite you here,"
wrote Harsh Koppula of Chicago.

-Scott "I Bet Chuckrateez Would Send Sharrock Licks" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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