HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
Subject: 2nd. Annual Hempfest `92
Summary: Let's stop persecuting people for their use of a harmless herb
Keywords: hemp,cannabis,marijuana,legalization
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:58:53 GMT

[from a flyer I found (with slight editing)...]
Washington Citizens for Drug Policy Reform presents 2nd Annual Hempfest `92

Saturday, September 19, 1992, Volunteer Park, Capitol Hill, Seattle

Musical Guests:
	Bam Bab		Ganja Farmers
	Sticker Bush	Seed

Invited Guest Speakers [I guess that means they may not show up --kurt]
	Marijuana Mary (from SF)
	Mayor Norm Rice, Sea. City council members [don't hold your breath -- kurt]
	Other local candidates

Invited Media Guests:
	Talk show host Ken Schram
	Commentator Lou Guzzo

There will be voter registration.

Approximately 1000 Americans are arrested every day for cannabis.  "The safest
therapeutically active substance known to man," ruled Francis Young, DEA Chief
Administrative Law Judge.
-- 
kurt@grogatch.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum)
 "People who sign their own .sig are just net.personality wanna-bees." --
 K. Cockrum
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From: allyn@halcyon.com (mark allyn)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Re: WSP radar?  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:12:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Sep6.161209.24241
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

About all of these lasers . . . .

I am wondering about laser eye safety. At a lab where I work, we had to
wear these special goggles whenever the laser was turned on. They were
to prevent blindness due to the laser buring the retna of the eye.

Even with these goggles, they told us to **NEVER** look directly 
into the laser.

Is the WSP going to issue free laser eye safety goggles to every driver
in the state? If not, will it be interesting the liability issues
regarding blindness resulting from **DIRECT** exposure to laser
radiation? Will the cop have to be carefull to aim the laser at your
bumper and **NEVER** at the winshield?

Boy I think the lawyers are going to have **FUN** on this one!!! Get
you laser safety goggles and keep your eyes closed while driving!!!
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: Frank Sayre <sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu>
Subject: Need opinions re City University in Bellevue
Organization: Vanderbilt University Computer Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:35:28 GMT

Does anyone have any first-hand experience with City University up
there in Seattle? In particular...

...overall quality of CU distance degree programs...

...value placed on CU distance degrees by employers...

...quality and acceptability of their MBA program...

Thanks for your help.

============================================================
Frank C. Sayre         
sayre@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks)
Subject: Re: Travelling armed
Keywords: Guns laws crime murder waiting periods
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: pnw
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:29:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.193150.3692@sierra.com> dgeary@sierra.com (David Geary) writes:

>  Of course this argument makes one huge assumption:  that drug usage will
>increase as a result of legalization of drugs.  IMHO, people that want to
>use recreational drugs are going to get ahold of what they want whether it's
>legal or not, and therefore, drug usage will not increase by a great deal.
>If that's the case, then we're already dealing with the problems that
>Michael mentions, plus, of course, the gargantuan cost of the WOD ...
>
>
>-- 
>David Geary           	|   Seattle - America's most attractive city ... 
>Sierra Geophysics	|	
>dgeary@sierra.com	|   to the jetstream ;-(

If memory serves, it wasn't too long ago that I saw
somewhere, probably in alt.drugs or similar group, the
results of a survey.  Some large percentage of the people
surveyed, ~70% as I remember, said that they would not
increase their drug usage or start using drugs if they were
legal.  I think there are probably a fair number of people
that would stop, or not even start, using because a lot of
the thrill was missing.  The "forbidden fruit" syndrome.
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: xliang@milton.u.washington.edu (Xu Liang)
Subject: 81 HONDA ACCORD FOR SALE
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: pnw
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:04:20 GMT

HONDA ACCORD 4-Door Sedan

Year 81

72-73K Miles

Automatic Transmission
 
Power Steering, Brake 

Needs carburetor work ( estimated repair around $250 if
you want to rebuild it or $450 if you want to put in a
new one)

Ask for $1400 / oBO

xliang@milton.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
From: ssave@ole.cdac.com (Shailendra Save)
Subject: Re: WSP radar?  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Organization: CDAC, WA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:18:38 GMT

In article <967@seahcx.UUCP> kenh@seahcx.UUCP (Ken Hughes) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.142331.25353@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:
>>In article <MS-C.715375780.662824084.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>, mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:
>>   
>>That's becuase the WSP is mostly interested in sitting by the side of the 
>>road, watching their precious radar. I've lost count of the number of times
>                               ?????
>Hmmmm....  this brings up a question.  I was told recently that the WSP has
>moved to laser speed detectors.  Can anyone confirm?  I was told that they
>can "spot" the laser on a single car in traffic for an undetectable "gotcha".
>

  Only Bellevue and Medina.  Too expensive for almost anyone else.

  Just my 0.02$: Laser does not fall under FCC, and hence can be jammed
without violating FCC laws. It is however, still a felony to mess with
police work.

-S
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
From: klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross)
Subject: Mazda,Chrysler,Craftsman FOR SALE
Reply-To: klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross)
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:26:18 GMT


FOR SALE:

1979 Mazda GLC - Great commuter car, runs great, good mileage $500
1961 Chrysler New Yorker - restorable, runs great, must sell soon, $600

Craftsman Electronic Radial Arm Saw - Very little usage, cost $500 new,
will sell for $300. All manuals and receipts incl.

-Kevin
h)744-0845
w)283-8802x246
-- 
-Kevin L. Gross          klg@statsci.com           Disclaim THIS: 
 This message is protected under the 1st Amendment to the Constitution
 of the United States of America. I'm protected under the 4th, 5th and
 9th Amendments among others, or at least I used to be.
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From: anamioka@bcsaic.boeing.com (Aki Namioka)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: CPSR/Seattle Meeting Notice
Keywords: Technology Platform
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:13:22 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle


				CPSR/Seattle
	     (Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility)

			 September Chapter Meeting

			     September 15, 1992

				     AT
			   Phil Harrison's House
			   10322 Ravenna Ave. NE
				  Seattle
			      Phone: 526-0966

			      Chapter Business
				7:30 - 8:00

		    Special Election Year Discussion on
			   a Technology Platform
				8:00 - 9:30

The Peace and Justice Working Group of CPSR-Berkeley, has produced a draft
of a technology platform.  In this important year of elections, the issue of
a technology platform is very important as stated in the introduction.

    "As computer and information technologies become all pervasive, they touch
    more and more on the lives of everyone.  Even so, their development and
    deployment remains unruly, undemocratic and unconcerned with the basic needs
    of humanity.  In addition, devastating social problems like homelessness,
    illiteracy, lack of health care, poverty, etc. are not technical problems or
    the result of scarcity; rather, they are distribution problems, i.e.,
    political problems.  Technology is the answer for technical problems.
    Political problems require political solutions.

    As people who design, create, study, and use computer and information
    technologies, we have taken the initiative to develop a political platform
    for these technologies. This platform will provide direction for our
    political leadership. This document unites many disparate groups and voices
    behind a common call for change in the emphasis and application of these
    technologies."

At this meeting a brief overview of the contents of the platform will be
presented and discuss how such a document can be used to influence elections
in 1992 and beyond.  The discussion can also be used to provide feedback
to the Peace and Justice Working Group, on this document.

-- 
   =======================================================================
   THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED HERE ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT REPRESENT MY EMPLOYER
	Aki Namioka  e-mail: aki@atc.boeing.com  phone: (206)865-3229
From: shannon@sierra.com (Shannon Maher)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: House for rent, late Sept., Maple Leaf/Greenlake
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:34:28 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa


    Seattle house for rent in Maple Leaf area, just North of Greenlake.  
    
    Recently refinished 3 bedroom, 2 bath, two car garage.  Partially
unfinished basement makes for plenty of storage.  Large living room with
mountain view.  Fenced backyard with alley access.  On bus line to 
University, and last stop before bus to downtown.  2 minute access to I-5.

    Full appliances, incl. washer/dryer/dishwasher, and 2 refrigerators.
Security system, and automatic sprinkler (for what it's worth).  Oil
heat, auto setback thermostat.

    $975/month/deposit/last month's rent.  Available Sept. 26.

    E-mail, or call 522-3931.

Shannon Maher              Sign on (beautiful) Lake City Way:
shannon@sierra.com                         "Visualize whirled peas"
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: kevin@milton.u.washington.edu (Kevin Caskey)
Subject: Re: Magazine City
Keywords: [Magazine City] [good magazine store]
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:32:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.121602.20392@eskimo.celestial.com> mann@eskimo.celestial.com (Tom Mann) writes:
>I stopped by Magazine City (on 3'rd and Olive, I think) and guess what?
>Does anybody know what happened to them and, more importantly, is there
>a comparable outlet for magazines? They had one of the best selection of
>art - crafts mags that I have found. 
>
>Thanks for any info,
>Tom
>-- 

Tom,
That depends on how you define "arts & crafts". For the more mainstream
you might try Bulldog News on the Ave (U dist). For the adult stuff, I don't
know. Maybe that place on Aurora at Northgate Way (105th)?

Kevin at U dub
.

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Travelling armed
Keywords: Guns laws crime murder waiting periods
Bcc: irving
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Distribution: pnw
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:09:14 GMT

In <1992Sep15.162906.15580@nwnexus.WA.COM> guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
>I think there are probably a fair number of people
>that would stop, or not even start, using because a lot of
>the thrill was missing.  The "forbidden fruit" syndrome.

While I cannot deny that there might be some such effect, that
would reduce drug use because of the psychological impact of their
legalization, I suspect it's a rather minor effect.

The big effect is the elimination of the super-salesman.  When you
can live like a king by selling drugs, some fraction of "the best
and the brightest" are going to go into the drug-selling business.
And being who they are, they will succeed, whatever the cost to
their customers.  Without the money incentive in drugs that their
unlawful status brings, these sales-geniuses would have to become
stockbrokers or politicians or something.  

Hmmm.  I meant that to sound like we'd be better off without drug
laws, but on reading it back, I have to admit that stockbrokers and
politicians are really just as harmful as drug dealers.  Oh, well.
-- 
 Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com      Happy Man Corp.  206/463-9399 x101
 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA  98070-7399   fax x108
 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
Info free; sample $20.  Send POSTAL addrs: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: mann@eskimo.celestial.com (Tom Mann)
Subject: Magazine City
Keywords: [Magazine City] [good magazine store]
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:16:02 GMT

I stopped by Magazine City (on 3'rd and Olive, I think) and guess what?
Does anybody know what happened to them and, more importantly, is there
a comparable outlet for magazines? They had one of the best selection of
art - crafts mags that I have found. 

Thanks for any info,
Tom
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom "Old" Mann KD9NL/7 Kirkland, Wash.     

I don't do drugs, don't do DOS and definitely do not do Windows.
Newsgroups: seattle.general,seattle.forsale
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Subject: Re: new newsgroup created
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:29:08 GMT


Hooray!  I was just looking for a group like this this morning.

lb
From: fyl@fylz.wa.com (Phil Hughes)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Michael Parenti Video, Sept 20
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:59:23 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: FYL

"Inventing Reality: Politics of the Mass Media" by Michael Parenti is
a lecture given at the University of Vermont.  It deals with the
monopoly ownership of the media and distortions of the news.  It will
be shown on Sunday September 20 at 7:30PM at 549 NE 80th Street in
Seattle.  This house is on the 305 bus line and not far from a 72 and
73.  Call 526-2919 and press 6 for more info. 
-- 
Phil Hughes - FYL - 8315 Lk City Wy NE - Suite 207 - Seattle, WA 98115 
Phone: 206-526-2919 x74      Fax: 526-0803
E-mail: fyl@fylz.com or nwnexus!fylz!fyl or cpac.washington.edu!fylz!fyl
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Owner of Last Exit Coffeehouse passes away
Organization: very little
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 00:50:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.181117.25881@jazzie.com> sds@jazzie.com (Sean Shapira) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.205246.18270@eskimo.celestial.com> kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum) writes:
>>The UW is probably planning to tear the building down
>
>I hope this bit is only pessimistic speculation.  Is there no
>chance the place could continue more-or-less as is?

Hard to imagine it going on without Irv.  This was truly a labor of
love for him over the years.

I used to see Irv out shopping at Safeway or dining at various U District
restaurants with his elderly father.  I wonder if there is anyone around
to take care of his dad?



-- 
 Tad Cook     |  Phone:  206-527-4089  (home)     |   MCI Mail: 3288544   
 Seattle, WA  |  Packet: KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA   |   3288544@mcimail.com 
              |  Internet: tad@ssc.wa.com        or...sumax!ole!ssc!tad   
Newsgroups: uw.general,uw.forsale,seattle.general
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Subject: 286 Laptop -- great price!
Reply-To: tertium@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: pnw
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:07:32 GMT


I am simplifying my life (-:

Mitsubishi mp286L Laptop.

		*Needs a new hard drive (about $150)
		*1.4 m FDD
		*2400 Baud Modem
		*carrying Case

It's been a great machine for 18 months.  I take it everywhere
for writing memos, programming and general stuff.

$350 

685-8627
632-2253

Call or e-mail if interested.


******************************************************************************
Lauren Boyd					Department of Otolaryngology
Systems Analyst/Programmer			University of Washington, RL-30
*Go Huskies*					Seattle, Washington  98195
******************************************************************************
From: zander@sumax.seattleu.edu (Carol Zander)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Female housemate wanted for Green Lake/Phinney
Keywords: housemate
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:21:48 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle, WA


We're looking for a 29+, responsible, clean female housemate 
to share with 2 other females.  The house is a bright, cheery,
older home with character on the west side of Green Lake.
It's quite large with W/D and a great porch.  It's in a great
neighborhood and close to good buses.

We're looking for a considerate, active, "normal" adult. 
No smoking, but we like cats.  Rent is $325 + 1/3 util month.

Call 782-3828 (home of Carol and Lisa), or call me (Carol)
at work -- 296-5508, or email me.

Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general,alt.politics.libertarian
From: delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle)
Subject: Isenberg for Lt. Governor, Washington State.
Apparently-From: microsoft!tomis
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:50:35 GMT

	I am forwading this from an e-mailing list...
for your information...
      v-v    v-v    v-v 
From: tomis@microsoft
 
In case you didn't know, I'm running a paper campaign for Lt. Governor 
of Washington state. This means I give media interviews and supply 
statements and position papers, but that I don't spend money or time on 
brochures, yard signs, travel, etc. If I or any of the other 3 statewide 
candidates get 5% of the vote in November, the LP becomes a major party 
in WA state and becomes subject to the same rules as the Demopublicans. 
But first, we have to get 1% of the vote in the September 15 primary 
election.

So here is the 200-word statement I've supplied for the Washington State 
Voters Pamphlet. Feel free to use it yourself...

"As a Libertarian, I believe that Big Government is a cancer 
masquerading as a cure. Republicans and Democrats alike continually 
impose new taxes, waste, and laws. Their policies may benefit different 
pressure groups lobbying for handouts or regulations that restrict 
competition, but always at the expense of our taxpayers, consumers, 
small businesses, and charities.

"Libertarians are different. We stand against government rigging the 
marketplace, criminalizing peaceful behavior, or redistributing your 
earnings. Libertarians stand for creating jobs and cutting prices by 
restoring honest competition; aggressively cutting taxes and wasteful 
programs; holding polluters fully liable for their damages; getting 
serious with violent criminals; empowering all families with educational 
choice; and restoring the civil and economic liberties we've already 
lost.

"Big Government is rapidly eroding our prosperity and our freedoms, so 
please don't waste your vote on the two parties responsible. The more 
votes Libertarians get, the more the Demopublicans will change to earn 
your support again. Libertarians don't have to win, we just have to give 
them a good scare. With hundreds of elected officeholders nationwide, 
the Libertarians are already America's third-largest and fastest-growing 
party! Together we can restore prosperity, tolerance, and common sense. 
For free information, call 800-682-1776 or 206-329-5669."


--- Tom Isenberg


Newsgroups: seattle.general,seattle.admin
From: markz@ssc.wa.com (Mark Zenier)
Subject: Re: new newsgroup created
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 17:46:50 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
: 
: Hooray!  I was just looking for a group like this this morning.

That's strange, I've been getting postings for

Newgroups: uw.forsale,seattle.forsale 

in my Junk file for months.  Any other partial propogation
groups hanging out at the UW that we should know about?

Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com  

Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bruce@nds.com (Bruce Wollen)
Subject: Re: WSP radar?  (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Organization: Northwest Digital Systems
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:10:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

vanzwol@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ted Van Zwol) writes:
: In article <967@seahcx.UUCP> kenh@seahcx.UUCP (Ken Hughes) writes:
: >In article <1992Sep2.142331.25353@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:
: >Hmmmm....  this brings up a question.  I was told recently that the WSP has
: >moved to laser speed detectors.  Can anyone confirm?  I was told that they
: >can "spot" the laser on a single car in traffic for an undetectable "gotcha".
: 
: I don't believe they have "moved" to it.  My (very) limited understanding is
: that they are 'playing' with a few.  I don't think they'll be in every WSP
: car anytime soon.
: 
: Sell you stock in any radar detectors.  They will be absolutely obsolete.
: I hear that your speed can be calculated MUCH faster, aimed much more
: narrowly, etc.  Even if you had a sensor all around the skin of your car
: to detect if a laser has struck you...it's too late.  You've been nailed.
: It's not like wandering radio waves are present to alert you to potential
: rader.

Laser speed detectors are very expensive, so it will be a while before they
are commonplace.  As far as detecting them goes, Cincinatti Microwave has
claimed that they can produce a laser detector on a moment's notice.  They
currently do not due to the small number of laser guns out there.  Yes, if
it hits your car on an empty road, you're caught, just as you are now with
instant-on radar.  But the idea with detectors is that most roads here in
Seattle have other cars on them, and you'll pick up the laser/radar 
reflections from the vehicles in front of you.  Laser light reflects  and
scatters quite nicely...otherwise the cop would not be able to receive 
any signal back.

: 
: Anyone else have more concrete news?
: -- 
: Ted C Van Zwol                           |    Genius does what it must,
: uucp:      {...!}uunet!bcstec!vanzwol    |    Talent does what it can.
: internet:  vanzwol@bcstec.boeing.com     |                  -Emerson
-- 
Bruce Wollen               Northwest Digital Systems
bruce@nds.com              (206) 524-0014
                           Seattle, WA 
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: lee@seanews.akita.com (Lee Hauser)
Subject: Re: Magazine City
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Distribution: seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:09:05 GMT
Keywords: [Magazine City] [good magazine store]


It closed due to what the owners called high crime activity in the area,
and it is a loss.  Probably the best alternative downtown is Read All
About It at the entrance to the Pike Place Market.  A former employee of
Magazine City opened Ynot Magazines in Federal Way several years ago...
it is excellent but probably too far south for you...

Lee Hauser
lee@seanews.akita.com
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general