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From: skea@vast.unsw.edu.au (Alan Skea)
Subject: Re: LH Turns vs RH Turns
Organization: University of New South Wales, Kensington, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:39:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.233221.21084@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au> brent@currawong.bhs.mq.edu.au (Brent Curtis) writes:
> echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE) writes:
> >A recent thread in rec.motorcycles concerns whether riders have
> >a preference for either right-hand corners or left-hand corners.
> 
> How about because one footpeg is further forward than the other. Makes
> it easier to lean to the left. And also the effect of having a motor that
> spins along the axis of the bike - when accelerating the bike leans to the
> left, too.

I've heard about these torque reactions from shaft drive bikes but never
experienced it.  I owned a Honda ``Shadow'' 700 for about 3 months in
California last year (it's what's called a VF700 here, I think).  It's a
V4 with a shaft drive but I never noticed any reaction at all when
accelerating - not even when I was looking for it.  Maybe the shaft is
very light - I guess it'd be much more pronounced on a BMW where the
engine also is rotating along the axis of the bike.  If the torque
reaction is peculiar to BMWs I think I'll keep away from them.  Does
anyone know what other bikes suffer ffrom this? 

Alan Skea.
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: The Evolution of the Motorcycle
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:03:43 GMT

In article <BtKFMz.9Cq@quark.ansto.gov.au> jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon) writes:
>
>		THE EVOLUTION OF THE MOTORCYCLE
>
>   True story deleted...
>
>	He called his bike DUCATI and he was happy.
>


Amen...



Steve



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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: mit900@ainslie.anu.edu.au (Mark I Turner)
Subject: Re: shit I was lucky 
Reply-To: mit900@vovo.aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
,path: huxley.anu.edu.au!mit900
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:48:43 GMT


-- 
Chris Karadaglis writes ...

>So I'm on my way to work this morning.  Came flying around my favourite
>corner, nice, long sweep at 105kph (ok, so I was speeding), 

stuff deleted about coming face-to-face with a cop.


No this is not lucky, but a very mild case of good fortune.  Now
THIS is lucky (and stupid):

I had a really niggly problem with my new GSX-R when I bought it - in
the end it had to be returned to Suzuki to be fixed, as the local dealer
gave up.  Anyway, after months of torment, it finally came back from
Suzuki, who claimed, once and for all, that it was fixed.  The problem
(severe engine missing) only occured at high revs, so I decided to give it
a fairly decent run.   I and a friend went out to the Monaro highway, back
of Canberra - 80kph zone but dead quite and straight at that time of night
(or so I thought).  Off the roundabout we both accelerated hard. I up to
210 (a big GSX-R gets there pretty quickly).  My road concentration 
wasn't quite what it should have been because my eyes were flitting down to
the tacho to catch sight of the needle wobbling that usually preceded
a bad engine cutout.  Before I new it I was passing a van, that to my horror
was a copmobile - he must have been doing about 80kph - I passed him
doing 2.6 times the speed limit!

I thought that was the end of motorcycling for me for the next few years -
it should have been.  I didn't stop, but took the first exit - my friend 
met me later on, claiming that the cop van had taken off after me but, 
although I slowed down, it was an uphill stretch and these vans are 
hard pushed to get much above 100k on an uphill accelaration.

I spent the next few days expecting a house call from Mr Plod, but it
never came.  Whether the driver of the van was too shocked to
read the number plate of someone overtaking at 130kph faster than
themself (not much time to do it), or just short sighted (it was dark too),
I don't know - but I seem to have had a miraculous let-off.

I don't make a habit of doing this sort of thing - the consequences of
getting caught are just too nasty, let alone the dangers (roos and quite legitimate lane changes are hard to stop for at this speed).  So no lectures
please! 

On this thread - there must be a fair few people out there who have machines
capable of topping the 250k mark (seems kinda pointless doesn't it?).  Most of
these must like to see what their machine can do, at least once in their life,
so there must be other horror stories of utter stupidity on public roads.  For
myself, I've had my one big splurge, and the nasty scare described above, so
I won't be doing it any more (promise!).  I'm currently finding out that you 
can hire race-track time (with attending ambulance) at VERY reasonable
rates - so I'm sticking to that.

Mark  
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Sydney Ride (Update)
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:16:55 GMT

ok people only a couple of changes so far .. firstly it looks like Saturday
is the day the ride will be on .. that is Saturday the 5th of September.  Also
the luncheon venue won't be the Robbo Pie shop but a little pie shop in Kangaroo
Valley (I have it on good authority that they have Pies to die for).  That's
about it .. e-mail me if you wanna go and I'll send you details on how to find
my place ..

Jason.
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Newsgroups: aus.tex,comp.text.tex
From: bulmer@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Michael R. Bulmer)
Subject: CM fonts on the Macintosh
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:58:40 GMT

Are there any Macintosh versions of the Computer Modern fonts?

I am trying to make a complicated picture on the Mac to include in
a LaTeX (OzTeX) document and would like the fonts I use in the
picture to match those in the text.

Or is there a much easier way? (One thought was to get a PostScript
version of one of the CMs and change its name to the one I use on the
Mac, but this seems too dirty).

Thanks in advance,

Michael.
From: mailman@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Mail Manager)
Newsgroups: aus.tex
Subject: Wanted Tex for SunOS4.1
Summary: Tex version for SunOS4.1
Keywords: Tex, SunOS4.1
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:17:00 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre


We would like to obtain a Tex version to run in Sun SS2 using SunOS4.1.
Please let us if you are willing to provide us a copy or if you know a site
that may provide one.

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Newsgroups: aus.tex
From: jenny@socs.uts.edu.au (Jenny Edwards)
Subject: postscript in latex
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:12:55 GMT


To all those who replied to my earlier message thanks.
I now have heaps of suggestions.

To all those having the same problem, I'll post a summary
of my replies.  The one critical factor seems to be
getting encapsulated postscript files in the first place

Then incorporating these into dvips.  \special does not seem to
be highly recommended by most people.



Newsgroups: aus.tex
From: jenny@socs.uts.edu.au (Jenny Edwards)
Subject: postscript in latex
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 25 Aug 92 07:35:42 GMT

 have an extremely large Latex file which must be printed from  a sun.
I would like to include some pictures in this file.
(At the moment, I physically cut and paste after printing.
I'd like to be able to include the pictures while printing.)
The pictures were generated in postscript on a mac and ftp'd to the sun.
How can I include postscript pictures in a Latex file?
I assume it is via the \special command.
As I am not a regular newsreader, please reply to 
jenny@socs.uts.edu.au
Thanks
Newsgroups: aus.acs
From: vadim@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (ZAITCHIK V)
Newsgroups: aus.acs
Subject: Please Ignore (test)
Summary: ghfghfdh
Keywords: vbcbcb
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:32:24 GMT
Distribution: aus.acs
Organization: Computer Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia.



nly a test:

Newsgroups: aus.acs
From: mjp@itd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.students
Subject: Re: APRA Awards - additional (hidden) benefits
Keywords: Australian Postgraduate Research Awards, Family Allowance Supplement
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:25:19 GMT
Distribution: aus

rfeadf@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Finegan) writes:

Another advantage of being tax free is that all other income is
taxed according to the marginal rates of your other income.

Hence if you invest in some shares paying franked
dividends, the then you not only get the dividends, but also
a large proportion if not all of the franking credits as tax
refunds. Given that fully franked shares means 39% tax was
paid on the distribution, that means you almost double
the return of the shares in your hand.

Michael
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From: rkurande@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (rkurande)
Newsgroups: aus.students,aus.wanted,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Queensland Univ. of Tech. Brisbane
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:08:01 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston MA. USA 02115

of Tech. at Brisbane. He needs info about school, cost living, courses etc..
I need to get in touch with a student of that univ. or any pointer leading
to that info. Please e mail to me directly.
Thanks


Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: yewj@vast.unsw.edu.au (Yew Jin Kang)
Subject: uni "Prices"
Keywords: Money, uni, shock
Organization: VLSI and Systems Technology Laboratory, UNSW
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:57:56 GMT

>I think the average should more than $10000. In here, Melbourne Uni.
>The "Price" for BSC     : 15000
>                MSC     : 16000
>                BCom    : ~8000
>                BLaw    : ~8000
>                BEng    : 16000
>                BMed    : ~20000 

Well... that's about the normal prices around Australia, I think. In UNSW
they are around :

		BSC	: 10500
		BCom	: 10000
		BEng	: 15500
		BMed	: 22000

I don't think any course is below $10000 (excluding English courses)

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Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: sleongcs03@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Singapore address wanted
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:43:00 GMT

Does any one knows the internet and bitnet address of National University of 
Singapore and Nayang Technological University and what pattern do they
use in terms of usernames? I would like to send mail to my friend over there .

thanks for the help

Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: choonga@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Andy G. Choong)
Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
Subject: Medicare Status
Date: 25 Aug 92 04:29:00 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Originator: choonga@latcs2.lat.oz.au


		$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
		$Subsidised Overseas Students Medicare$ 
		$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Does anyone know if Medicare coverage on subsidised overseas students will
continue after the 1st of September, 1992?

There is speculation that this service will cease on the 1st. September, 1992.

If you are concern, ring NUS on (03) 347 1844 to find out more and perhaps, 
register your concern.
Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Standard of Living
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:29:47 GMT

I had a conversation with a friend the other day on Austudy and we came to
the conclusion that it was a pretty decent allowance. However, a large
number of Australian students on Austudy don't seem to think so. Therefore,
either these students were trying to exploit the system OR overseas students
tend to have different ideas as to what constitutes a decent standard of
living. Note - students who cram 10 to a room and eat white rice in soy
sauce daily do not figure in my comparison.

Basic cost of living(based on personal experience and those of my friends)

Rent - $35/week to $55/week(average rent from student union housing office
                            is $45/week)

Food - Rice(20kg) $24.50/-(most expensive)
     - Steak(good quality) - $7-15/kg
     - Beef(cheaper cuts) - $4/kg
     - Lamb - $2-5/kg (depending on season or mood of supermarket)
     - Chicken - $3-5/kg
     - Veggies - Cabbage/Cauliflower/Lettuce - about $1(usually less)
     - Veggies - Green peppers($4-7/kg)
     - Onions/Potatoes - about $0.8/kg (much cheaper when in season)
     - Scallops - $15-20/kg , King Prawns - $20-23/kg
     - Fish(orange roughy-$12-13/kg) flatheads, trout, etc - much cheaper

On average, expenses for food for overseas students range from $10/week
to $40/week. Those who spend less usually 'share' grocery expenses,
meals, and cooking responsibilities.

Just wonder what its like in the other states.

Edmund
Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: derek@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Tak Keung CHENG)
Subject: Re: An Aussie's ReplySKIP
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:51:38 GMT

rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:

>In article <9223808.8537@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, rayhann@ee.mu.OZ.AU (rayhann chee) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug24.170047.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:

>Given that a place costs around $10000 on average (1991 was the last time I saw
>a cost per place and it was definitely five figures...) I'd say o/s students
>are paying for their own place plus about 0.1 of another person's place...
>That is, an o/s student is paying for 1.1 places, of which the 0.1 is siphoned
>off to subsidise Australian students, usually through an Overseas Student
>Capital Component of the overseas students' fees.

I think the average should more than $10000. In here, Melbourne Uni.
The "Price" for BSC 	: 15000
	        MSC	: 16000
		BCom	: ~8000
		BLaw	: ~8000
		BEng	: 16000
		BMed	: ~20000 

I think on average nearest $14000 in Melb Uni, can anyone tell me
the "Price" for the other Uni? 

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Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: An Aussie's ReplySKIP
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:11:20 GMT

In article <9223808.8537@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, rayhann@ee.mu.OZ.AU (rayhann chee) writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.170047.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:

>>Basically, the government are inadvertently using overseas students to
>>bolster such university capital costs as required.

> I doubt it is inadvertently Rod, there're rumours that each Full-Fee Paying
> student actually pays for 1.5 places in University.. I've never actually 
> seen a breakdown of the tuition fees into what costs how much etc.

Given that a place costs around $10000 on average (1991 was the last time I saw
a cost per place and it was definitely five figures...) I'd say o/s students
are paying for their own place plus about 0.1 of another person's place...
That is, an o/s student is paying for 1.1 places, of which the 0.1 is siphoned
off to subsidise Australian students, usually through an Overseas Student
Capital Component of the overseas students' fees.

>>It is saddening that the education budgetary dollar gets spread thinner every
>>year, and declines in real terms on a dollars allocated per student enrolled
>>basis.

> That is a big problem, the government is going broke and despite what the
> Prime Ministers *Hawk and Keating* pledged over the years, nothing substantial
> is being done about it..

See comment below.  Lack of funding means $$$ get spread thinner and o/s
students subsidise university incomes.

>>I don't think Rob meant that it was "unfortunate" that Oz accepts o/s
>>students, but rather meant that o/s students were being used to fund our
>>universities as Oz students require federal funding which is not forthcoming.

> Unfortunate on the behalf of overseas students ? ;)

Unfortunate that o/s students are subsidising the government's appalling
funding of universities.

Rod
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Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: eln314m@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Ms ML Hong)
Subject: Medicare renewal for overseas students
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:41:40 GMT


I was told by the local Medicare office that all overseas students whose
cards expire on 1st Sept 1992 should bring their passports, visas and
fee payment receipts to their nearest Medicare offices to renew their cards.
The new cards will expire on 31st Dec 1992. There is no indication that this
service to subsidised students will cease, according to the lady I talked
to, but I'll keep you posted if I get any news from NUS and the other
departments.

Mun Li
From: sleejy@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
Subject: Re: ******* ASIANS FACE RACE BIAS -an aussie reply-
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:17:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

In article <9222019.13139@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK) writes:
> kaic@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (David Chan) writes:
> 
> {Much deleted... Please refer to original postings...]
> Well, you can use this argument to justify speaking to your friends in
> your own language all the time, since in all such case, there exists a
> common language which both parties are fluent in, by your own
> definition.  So why bother to speak English at all, eh?

  That is you own opinion! ;)
 
> The fact of the matter is that when you are in public, you should speak
> English.  If you can't speak it well enough to carry out a decent
> conversation, then you need to ask yourself whether or not you should
> be here.

  The reason people who do not speak English well enough to carry out a decent 
conversation is in Australia because they want to learn to speak *GOOD* English
from people like yourself! ;)  So why are you against the idea of people who
don't speak good English like yourself coming to Australia??? ;)  You think
Australia is beta off without these people who don't speak good English?? :)
 
>>	Rayhann and a few others (myself included) will agree that to converse
>>in (say for example) Mandarin in the company of our Australians friends
>>is bad manners. But, sometimes, due to excitement or merely a lapse, several
>>sentences may be uttered in Mandarin. But I'm sure those Australian friends
>>(who don't speak Mandarin in this example) won't be offended if we translated
>>that bit of conversation.
> 
> I'm not just talking about your Australian friends.  The original poster
> used the example of a crowded lift.  We are talking about public places,
> in the company of people you may or may not know.
> 
  The point is with people whom I don't know, why should they bother when my
conversation has got nothing to do with them? ;)  Is it a crime in this case?
Why don't they mind their own business if my conversation doesn't _concern_
them at all??? ;)  If I were with people I know, I would translate it to them
as I would like to hear their point of view too, not to mention to get them
involve in my conversation, right?? ;)
 
> -- 
> Rob Sturrock
> <rns@cs.mu.OZ.AU>
> Computer Science IV, University of Melbourne.

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Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
From: 11478489@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (TEO RONALD)
Subject: Re: Singapore address wanted
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:53:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.104300.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> sleongcs03@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Newsgroups: aus.students.overseas
>Path: monu6!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!uniwa!cujo!cc.curtin.edu.au!sleongcs03
>From: sleongcs03@cc.curtin.edu.au
>Subject: Singapore address wanted
>Message-ID: <1992Aug24.104300.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
>Lines: 6
>Sender: news@cujo.curtin.edu.au (News Manager)
>Organization: Curtin University of Technology
>Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:43:00 GMT
>Does any one knows the internet and bitnet address of National University of 
>Singapore and Nayang Technological University and what pattern do they
>use in terms of usernames? I would like to send mail to my friend over there .
>
>thanks for the help
>

Sorry, I don't know them either. But have you tried writing to your friends 
in NUS or NTU about it? It may take a little longer, though.