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From: GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:42:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.223718.29567@athena.mit.edu> mondol@mtl.mit.edu (mark k. mondol) writes:
>My personal aggrivation with the parking garage (when I cannot find
>a spot at the meters) is the damn video camera they have at the exit
>taking pictures of your license plate.  If you ask them about it
>50% of the time they do not respond or get VERY surly. I found all
>this out by driving a very long wheel base station wagon so my
>plate was not visible to the camera. Otherwise I probably would
>never have noticed.

I can't speak for Logan, but another airport parking lot that did this said 
that it was part of a system for finding cars for people who forgot where 
the parked. (I've come close to forgetting myself). My recollection of the 
whole scheme is fading. It was something along the lines of every evening 
they send someone around who notes the license plate of every car in the 
lot. (Maybe the chalk the ones that have been noted already, the way over 
time parking at meters is noted.) The remove from their database the plates 
of people leaving the lot. I don't know how much they did on computers and 
how much on paper.

Again Logan may do this for some other reason.

Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com
From: jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:51:32 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>>Maybe this is just because of the unions, but why should they get double
>>wages?
>
>WHO CARES? GIVE THEM DOUBLE WAGES!

Maybe the MBTA can't afford it???  Did you ever think that they may be losing
money, even now???
>
>How much could it be?
>
>Would they ever be paid as much as Billy Bulger or his in-laws? NO!
>
>Make Bulger drive the damn buses around in the wee hours, he can sleep
>when he always sleeps, in the state house during the day.
>
>-- 
>        -Barry Shein
>
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Jessica


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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: What's the fuss about Sunday sales?
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:37:44 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

DS9 is apparently a new TV science fiction show, "Deep Space Nine,"
set in the same universe as "Star Trek the Next Generation." Thanks to
all who replied!
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:05:45 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

I've never had a problem. I beleive that the stories could be true,
but every time I've been there it's just been a normal parking lot.
Hey, you're from a Big City, you know how it is.
  On the other hand EVERYTHING you've heard about traffic on the
Central Artery is horribly true.
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From: mondol@mtl.mit.edu (mark k. mondol)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:37:18 GMT

In article <Bz97Cn.En3@world.std.com> rhs@world.std.com (Richard H Schwartz) writes:
>allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
>
>>I would like to hear what experiences you all have had with this. If
>>there are problems, I will tell my parents to pick me up somewhere
>>in town and take the bus or the cross harbor boat from the airport 
>>itself.
>

My personal aggrivation with the parking garage (when I cannot find
a spot at the meters) is the damn video camera they have at the exit
taking pictures of your license plate.  If you ask them about it
50% of the time they do not respond or get VERY surly. I found all
this out by driving a very long wheel base station wagon so my
plate was not visible to the camera. Otherwise I probably would
never have noticed.

I have often wondered who looks at this database and why. I also 
wondered if the computer privacy act would prevent or mandate
public access to the information.

Mark K. Mondol


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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:56:41 GMT

bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:

>I invite you to drop by there and hang around on a Saturday evening
>for the last hour or so before closing and watch how many cases of
>beer they sell per minute and listen in on the conversations and watch
>people come rushing in to get a coupla cases, breathless. I think
>you'll find it remarkable, that's the "sunday" liquor sales, and boy
>there's some planning there.
>I don't doubt a lot of beer drinking is spontaneous etc, but, well,
>have a look yourself, it's really a madhouse. People do plan.

That's not very good planning... that's more like, "oh, sh*t, the store's
about to close until Monday, and I don't have any brewskies left!"

:-)

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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:25:24 GMT

spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:

>In the referenced article mondol@mtl.mit.edu (mark k. mondol) writes:
><My personal aggrivation with the parking garage (when I cannot find
>>a spot at the meters) is the damn video camera they have at the exit

>	Hmm, I guess I better stop dumping bodies in the garage.  Can
>anyone suggest an alterative location.

The alley behind Lansdowne St., or any lecture hall at MIT.

--Pat
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From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
	<HROSE.92Dec15171338@rocza.eff.org> <listreINN7kq@news.bbn.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:20:54 GMT

Ron> == Ron Newman <rnewman@bbn.com> 
Helen> == Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@eff.org>

 Helen> Plus, if you kept the T running, you'd have to have (1) token
 Helen> sellers in each and every station, two in ones that don't
 Helen> connect over (like Kendall).

 Ron> Not necessarily.  Since traffic after 1am would be light, you could
 Ron> just have the train driver collect the fares (as is already done
 Ron> on the surface parts of the Green Line).  Service doesn't
 Ron> have to be frequent;  every 30 minutes would be fine.

train driver collect the fare? on the red line? hahahah! I'd like to see
how they implement this. They obviously couldn't run all the cars
(because not all cars have drivers or door-operators).  The drivers
would have to carry change (security hazard). 

 Helen> (2) inspectors on the platform. more people who have been
 Helen> drinking makes it more likely that people will be "misbehaving".

 Ron> Well, maybe you could skip this and just say "caveat emptor"
 Ron> if you're going to ride at that hour.  :-)

Perhaps. But one thing the MBTA does well is safety. I've heard horror
stories about the NYC subway, but I never feel unsafe on the T.

 Ron> |> (3) dispatchers to direct the trains (they don't go by themselves)

 Ron> Might not be needed with 30 minute headways.

They'd still need them on the green line. 4 lines coming together
between Copley and Govt Center. That's *assuming* nowhere else needs
them.

--Helen
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<HROSE.92Dec15171338@rocza.eff.org> <listreINN7kq@news.bbn.com>
	<HROSE.92Dec15202052@rocza.eff.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:34:54 GMT


>Perhaps. But one thing the MBTA does well is safety. I've heard horror
>stories about the NYC subway, but I never feel unsafe on the T.

Don't believe a word of it, obviously those people lived to tell their
stories, how bad could it have been?


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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<1992Dec10.200738.13641@linus.mitre.org>
	<1992Dec11.154818.1328@m5.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:13:30 GMT


>>Because most people plan.  Sunday closings don't stop people from
>>drinking liquor, only from buying it.  So now they buy a little extra
>>over the course of the week.  
>
>But a lot of people don't plan.  A lot of beer drinking is spontaneous.  And
>a lot of people don't even schedule their regular activities very well.  

There's this liquor store in Brighton Center, I forget the name but
it's a great name, something Hall? Right on Brighton Ave, old
neighborhood place but a big place.

I invite you to drop by there and hang around on a Saturday evening
for the last hour or so before closing and watch how many cases of
beer they sell per minute and listen in on the conversations and watch
people come rushing in to get a coupla cases, breathless. I think
you'll find it remarkable, that's the "sunday" liquor sales, and boy
there's some planning there.

I don't doubt a lot of beer drinking is spontaneous etc, but, well,
have a look yourself, it's really a madhouse. People do plan.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Software Tool & Die
	<HROSE.92Dec15171338@rocza.eff.org> <listreINN7kq@news.bbn.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:50:03 GMT

In article <listreINN7kq@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

<|> Plus, if you kept the T running, you'd have to have 
<|> (1) token sellers in each and every station, two in ones that don't
<|> connect over (like Kendall).
<Not necessarily.  Since traffic after 1am would be light, you could
<just have the train driver collect the fares (as is already done
<on the surface parts of the Green Line).  Service doesn't
<have to be frequent;  every 30 minutes would be fine.

	As someone pointed out this will only work on the Green line.
I also think you need the collectors there to provide security, see
below.

<|> (2) inspectors on the platform. more people who have been drinking makes
<|> it more likely that people will be "misbehaving".
<Well, maybe you could skip this and just say "caveat emptor"
<if you're going to ride at that hour.  :-)

	There'd be no point to having the T run all night if it it
were too dangerous to ride.  Drunk people would be the least of the
problems.  I think you'd also need more T police and on the Red,
Orange, and Blue lines, where the driver is separated from the
passengers, you'd need someone to ride each train.

	Now you could probably get away with out a guy on the platform
were the token booth is on the platform, Copley, and Boylston for
example and some of the out of town stops probably don't need the
extra security, the Quincy Red line branch comes to mind.

<|> (3) dispatchers to direct the trains (they don't go by themselves)
<Might not be needed with 30 minute headways.

	You may not need many dispatchers, but I'm sure there are all
kinds of behind the scenes people you need.  On call mechanics for
break downs, electricians, people to clean up after drunks barf on a
train or platform, etc, etc...
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From: rhs@world.std.com (Richard H Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:03:35 GMT

jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg) writes:

>Well, I don't usually ride the T, but I generally do not hear about people
>getting robbed on it, unlike the New York subways...  When I was on an Amtrak
>train that stopped at Penn Station in NYC we(all the passengers) were told to
>hold on to our purses and such, and not to leave them unattended, as they might
>get stolen.  And this on a train  that has conductors all over it!!

Now wait a minute Jess...  NYC is a *much* bigger city than Boston.  It's
subway system is *much much* bigger than the T.  It's news media, believe
it or not, is more sensationalist than Boston's.  More people live in 
NYC, a *lot* more, and they use the subway more than we do in Boston.
The fact that there is more awareness of crime on the NYC subway is very
much derived from these factors.

The NYC subway may not be perfectly safe, and it is wise to take 
precautions if you are elderly, an out-of-towner, or have "target"
written all over you.  The announcement you heard in Penn station has 
nothing to do with the NYC subway.  You might as well have been in the 
Port Authority Bus Terminal, or in the Empire State Building.  The 
conductors were doing a service for out-of-towners, reminding them that 
NYC is a place where you have to take more precautions than you are used 
to.  This applies to more than just the subway.  In fact, the subway
is safer than a lot of things in NYC.

-rich


-- 
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            1000 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA  02138
                  (617) 864 8330; FAX (617) 864 8377
                          rhs@world.std.com
From: jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:51:50 GMT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg) writes:
>
>>Please, think about this again, Bill.  If K-Mart calls up an employee on Sunday
>>morning, and asks him/her to come into work when he/she is not scheduled, and
>>this person tells K-Mart he/she's busy, this person is -not- going to get fired
>
>What I really meant was that this policy should apply to EVERY day, not
>specifically Sunday.
>
>
>
>-- 
>heiser@world.std.com

Okay. I worked for a couple different supermarkets over a period of about 4 to 5
years.  At both of them, if they called you up -any- day of the week which you
weren't scheduled for, and asked you to work, you weren't fired if you told them
you couldn't work.  You also weren't fired if they asked you to stay extra hours
and you couldn't.  I have never heard of anyone getting fired for either of
these things.  I believe with most major places of businesses, like big
companies, that it is definitely best to let them know as far ahead of time as
possible when you need to take time off.  Supermarkets prefer this, too, but
almost definitely -won't- fire you if you tell them only one day in advance.
They always want you to find someone to work your hours, in such cases.  I base
this on my experiences from various employers.  Of course, there's one guy I
know who is a security guard, who calls in all the time and tells them that
he either can't come in, or that he'll be late, and he still is working for
them!!  I'd love to know why they don't fire him.  But I'm just telling you
what I know from my experience.

Jessica


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From: Duke_T_Briscoe@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Bike paths near Cambridge?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:52:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

I'm thinking of moving to the Boston area, probably near Cambridge, and
I'm wondering if there are any nice bicycle paths in the area.  Something
like a converted railway right-of-way would be great, but that is expecting
a lot.  Are there any converted rail paths in the outlying Boston area?
Xref: sparky ne.general:3410 rec.skiing:8552
From: bwalker@auratek.UUCP (Brad Walker)
Newsgroups: ne.general,rec.skiing
Subject: looking for ski alias
Keywords: ski, alias
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:34:41 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: ne
Organization: Aurora Technologies, Inc.; Cambridge, Mass.

I'm new to the area having re-located from the San Francisco Bay area. I've
been wondering what this "new england powder" is all about but if this past
weekend is any indication then this is going to be a great winter.  What
I'm looking for is a "skibums" alias that has current ski conditions postings,
info. about ski swaps, where the deals are and so forth.  Specifically for
the New England area. This alias would be where we could post/read about
ski lift deals in the New England area and so forth.

Any ideas about an alias that I could get on.  I read rec.skiing but I wouldn't
want to post there to often so as to keep the signal-to-noise ratio good.
If there isn't any ideas then I would be willing to create one.

So, once again, any ideas about an alias that I could get on?

Thanks.

-brad w.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: Need a battery for my car
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:51:06 GMT

In article <BZS.92Dec18220613@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)  
writes:
> Anyone have any strong recs on great batteries and where in the
> Boston/Cambridge area to pick one up? Is Cambridge Tire still around?
> I couldn't find them in the yellow pages today. Do they sell anything
> decent? Anywhere else? My experience is that what's good in car
> batteries tends to change over the years.

Cambridge Tire was bought by Goodyear.

A Sears DieHard is $60 and includes a 1-year free jumpstart service - any  
place, any time.  The battery has a 5-year warranty.

Sears can also check your starting/charging system.  You might not need a new  
battery.

If you don't want to drive to a Sears store, and can install it yourself, you  
can order one thru the Sears catalog.

-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:48:56 GMT
Reply-To: levin@bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <15Dec92041802@miracle.com> phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill) writes:
|bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
|>[A long attempt at a line-by-line flame of me, I'd give it a C+]
|
|When you resort to a public attack by flaming me, all it shows is your closed
|mindedness towards the subject.  

Perhaps you should read what he said for content.  Most of his posting
was useful instruction on facts, which you seem to have missed.  His
use of sarcasm perhaps distracted you a bit.

|				  I am glad to debate this subject with you,
|but when you resort name calling and insults, the debate is over.

It was over before he started.

	/J
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:59:42 GMT

ede@porter.osf.org (Ted Ede) writes:

>I think that constant expose to carbon monixide has killed any brain
>cells that the state police academy failed to remove.  Of course, I'm
>sure that Logan Duty is not reservered for the best and brightest of the
>force.

:-)   When I worked at a major manufacturing facility in Lynn
(before they layed off 10,000 workers in about three years) :-(
the popular rumor was that the security force was hired from the
group of State Police applicants that couldn't pass the tests.

I don't know if it was true or not.

-- 
heiser@world.std.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: lmf@gtech.com (Linda M. Easterbrooks)
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:19:29 GMT

>>>Consider flying to Hartford, CT or Manchester, NH if you'd
>>>like a smaller airport, no parking hassles and no driving...

Nobody in this LOGAN / Hartford, CT / Manchester, NH discussion has even
MENTIONED the best alternative for lots of people -- T.F. Green airport, in 
Warwick, R.I. (Listed as Providence, but those of us who live here know...)

Jet service (non-stop) to Philly, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Chicago, D.C. (both
National and Dulles), Cleveland, Detroit, etc...., depending on if you 
like to fly USAir, Delta, United, Continental(ug.), etc...  Even if you live
just outside of Boston, what with the silly tunnel and traffic, it might
be faster to get to!  

Always seems like nobody remembers that Rhode Island is part of New England,
too.  Well, can't really blame you now, can I??


-- 
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                               55 Plan Way           GTECH for my thoughts,
Linda M. Easterbrooks    West Greenwich, RI 02817        (or lack of!)
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec6132040@world.std.com> <1fvg8vINN6lo@thor.genrad.com>
	<1992Dec8.055018.23153@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:41:27 GMT


From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
>To those of us who work long days, or work & go to school, or <insert
>your favorite keep-you-busy activity here>, it is difficult to get anything
>done with everything closed on Sunday and many things open only a part-day
>on Saturday.  Back when I had a schedule that had weekdays off and I 
>worked weekends, I had MUCH more flexibility in getting things done
>(i.e. I could do things when businesses were open).

But Bill, what good is that gonna do when YOUR employer demands you
come in on Sunday?

Who do you think mans those stores? Robots? When are they supposed
to shop?

Kinda falls flat as a populist argument, wouldncha say?

This whole side of the argument really amounts to: *I'm* white collar,
*I* get Sunday off (and I'd raise holy hell if *I* didn't), and
dammit, I want SERVICE! To hell with anyone who has to come in on
Sunday to give it to me, that's their problem.

Right?

I mean, let's at least draw some lines here and not make it sound like
it's something everyone can or should be able to relate to.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: gary@cayman.com (Gary Lampal)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Think C & C Texts for Sale
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:46:05 GMT
Organization: me
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
X-XXDate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:43:48 GMT

Items for sale:
- All purchased in September for a class that I ended up not attending.  

-  Think C v5.0 (the latest rev)
- "C:  How to Program"
          by H.M. Deitel and P.J. Deitel
- "C by Dissection - The Essentials of C Programming"; 2nd Edition
          by Al Kelley and Ira Pohl

All in mint condition.

If purchased separately, these would cost $274.
Will sell for $200.

Please resond directly to gary@cayman.com.