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From: clcarlso@unity.ncsu.edu (Cheryl Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DCI Champs
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:05:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity

In article <83543@bu.edu>, huajima@buengf.bu.edu (Jim Huang) writes:
|> 
|> 1972  Blue Stars     1973-74 SCV       1975 Madison
|> 1976-77 Blue Devils  1978    SCV       1979-80 Blue Devils
|> 1981 SCV             1982 Blue Devils  1983-85 Cadets
|> 
|> Thanks for filling out the rest

Don't forget:

1991: Star of Indiana
(fastest rise to the top since the early years of DCI)

Cheryl
1986 Star
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: slide bugles
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:13:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University

>Now while Im not an avid watcher of DCI, I watch it whenever I can. Having
>marched in a rather large marching band the last four years i have this 
>question (please don't flame me on this one)
>
>    Why no 'bones (trombones that is)? Baritones are not the same to me
>

This is a good question!

I would guess that it is because bugles have evolved from valveless
horns to 3-valved horns in G.  But nobody has yet "invented" a slide bugle.
Why not?  I'm suprised that George Hopkins hasn't proposed it!

I might add that, in my opinion, it could detract visually.

Scott

Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:08:01 -0400 
From: David James Foremsky <df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: asymmetrical drill

On 14-Apr-92 in PS. altered CDs              
user Michael Wang@cco.caltech writes:
>	Trivia:  What corps was the first to implement asymmetrical drill
>                 designs into their program?

I once talked to a guy who thought it was Garfield, but I'm laying my
money on Santa Clara. (I don't know when, though.  Sorry)

On 13-Apr-92 in Re: Drum Corps Trivia
user Phil Earnhardt@netwise.c writes:
>improving. The 1991 bunch was the best yet.

as for the previous comments on the 1991 recordings, I think they have
their high points and low points.  For example, the pagan drums in the
Bacchanale are practically non-existent on my CD's (granted, they would
be next to impossible to record with DCI's current setup) and the final
sequence in Star's show does not have the power that I would like it to
have.  On the good side, the "helicopters" in SCV's show sound
incredible, and BD's horns still have their power.

just my $0.02

deej
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: composers intentions
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:28:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University

I think it's rather academic whether we PRE-SUPPOSE that classical composers
would not want their music "blasphemed" by drum corps.  I can give a list
of non-classical composers who have publicly proclaimed to be honored and
thrilled to hear a drumcorps play their music:

                       Rob McConnell
                       Stan Kenton
                       Maynard Ferguson
                       Chuck Mangione
                       Chick Corea

Now, we can't ask Berlioz or Bernstein or Mussorgsky or Tchaikovsky,
unfortunately, because they are dead.  And, to the best of my knowledge,
they haven't appointed anyone to speak for them.

What the writer was ACTUALLY saying, obviously, was not the the composer
would not want this, but that SHE does not want it.  Now that's a different
thing altogether.
                                Scott
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dwylie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Darryl L Wylie)
Subject: BugleCam
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:17:39 GMT

The real answer is to hide a mini-cam inside the bell of a contra to get the 
view from the field. 

Darryl Wylie (Bearhug)
From: jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: The Point (was Re: A proposal (Re: flame))
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:29:22 GMT

In the previous article, I wrote lots of band stuff to add to the
flame war.

Just to clarify, yes there are differences between bands and corps.
But, just as not all corps are Cadets of BC or Star of Indiana, neither
are all bands East Podunk County High playing "You Are My Sunshine."

Credit is due where credit is due.  If a rec.arts move is made, let it
be rec.arts.music.marching and let us all peacefully coexist just like
on OTL.  You know, there hasn't been one arguement of this type there
despite a mix of articles from DCI to band to WGI.  I wonder why?

  - Jay G.


 - Jay Glover
                ------------------------------------------
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  (__|||__) \|       inextinguishable."  - Carl Neilsen
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Subject: Bottle dance 
From: fath1@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:01:08 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

They last played it in 1982.  They came in second behind BD.  I remember
that they brought it out as a surprise tag ending for Finals.  And they
didn't have it down well enough.  There was incredible phasing, one
section got almost a whole beat ahead of the other.  The ending
of the show almost fell apart.  Too bad, too.  It was a great show.

-- 
MM   MM FFFFF 	Michael Fath		fath1@husc.harvard.edu
M M M M F	Dept of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
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From: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Omar A. Zaidi)
Subject: In the spirit which the composer intended it to be performed
Reply-To: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:06:32 GMT

I'm posting this for a friend. Don't send flames to me because I will simply
ignore them. Flame to the group.

I dont believe   any classical music at all deserves to be performed in
this way. It is not how the composer meant it to be. When a composer
writes music for orchestra, he wants it performed by an orchestra, and
only an orchestra. I dont believe  performance of this kind is justified.
If I were a composer and that were my piece being performed in that
manner (drumcorps setting) I would   get my 357 to the director's
head immediately. I would be and am livid and enraged at the thought
of a  gorgeous  piece of orchestral music being destroyed in this
manner. Please do all composers justice and dont  bestow this kind of
crime to their intentions. The music that is *written* (NOT arranged!)
for this setting is perfectly ok., and it is ok if it is arranged by
the composer, hence having his approval. Otherwise, performance in
any other context than the original score is blasphemous. Please
do us musicians that courtesy. Thank you.

Johanna

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn)
Subject: Re: DCI Champs
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:12:21 GMT

In article <83543@bu.edu> huajima@buengf.bu.edu (Jim Huang) writes:
>
>1972  Blue Stars     1973-74 SCV       1975 Madison
>1976-77 Blue Devils  1978    SCV       1979-80 Blue Devils
>1981 SCV             1982 Blue Devils  1983-85 Cadets
>
>Thanks for filling out the rest

There is a small mistake:
1972  Anaheim Kingsmen

The rest is (I assume it's been posted before, but what the heck):
1986 Blue Devils
1987 Garfield Cadets
1988 Madison Scouts
1989 SCV
1990 Cadets of Bergen County
1991 Star of Indiana

-- Donald
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon)
Subject: Madison Italian restaurant
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:27:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University

mokie@cco.caltech.edu said...

> Madison also has a great Italian restaurant.

Tell me more!  What's it called and/or where is it?
                                                              Scott

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: tima@sequent.com
Subject: Re: Drum Corps in the NW
Organization:  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:42:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.022147.6804@talon.ucs.orst.edu> cookm@UCS.ORST.EDU (Marietta Cook) writes:
>Hi!  I am from the Northwest and I marched 8 years in a drum corps in this
>area called Argonauts.  I was just reading this newsgroups, and someone
>was commenting on the return of drum corps in the South.  Here in the
>Northwest we have lost all of our corps but one, and the reason this has
>happened is because higher insurance costs.  This increase in insurance
>cost has increased dues, lowered membership in the area, and just made
>it economically unadvisable to field a corps.  I feel this is a sad fact,
>that I am sure that we in the Northwest are feeling.
>

Ah yes, northwest Drum and Bugle corps! I marched in the "Black Watch"
and then with the Argo's during their death throws. We did pretty good in
the Argos, making 26th, and something like 24th before the boneheads running
the organization threw in the towel. I also was an instructor for one year
as the Argo's tried to make a comeback. We went from having an entire group
of people that NEVER MARCHED BEFORE (except for about 10 loyal Argo's)
and created a pretty damn good corp out
of them. I think we ended up beating the Marauders at least (my personal
goal...) I will never forgive George for folding the corps on the year I was
supposed to be Drum Major.
The Argo's are a 'band' or some such nonsense now. Too bad.

Marietta Cook: Are you that short second soprano? It's me, Tim! You know,
the one with the big mouth? Yes, I'm still alive,
and I'm even living in Portland...

tima@sequent.com

(though I am not working for sequent...)
From: jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Spirit Concert
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:03:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.204959.20745@ncsu.edu>, clcarlso@unity.ncsu.edu (Cheryl Carlson) writes:
> I was told, a while back, that there was going to be a free Spirit of Atlanta Concert on April 25. Does anyone know wether it is still going to be held, and if so where it will be and what time its starting.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Cheryl

Please post to alt drumcorps, if you know; I'd like
to know, too.

 - Jay G.
From: kal@vaxeline.ftp.com (Kelleigh A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: A proposal (Re: flame)
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:08:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: vaxeline.1992Apr8.150818.11597
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA

In article <JAC.92Apr8102517@glinda.cis.ohio-state.edu> jac@cis.ohio-state.edu (Jim Clausing) writes:
>koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu writes:
>   In article <1992Apr7.201447.18882@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> binkowsk@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes:

>Fine, but would you have had the same 2 hour talk if the guy had
>marched with some Class A corps?  How about a senior corps?  Some of
>us never had the FINANCIAL ability to march with a top 12 corps, does
>this make our opinions any less legitimate?  I think that this group
>is a great idea, but if that is the attitude that the folks in this
>group are going to take, then we shouldn't waste our time, the
>signal-to-noise ratio will be practically nil.
>   --

>Jim Clausing					jac@cis.ohio-state.edu

>>>>If anything, I find that Class A corps are much closer and friendlier with
each other. I marched in both, Class A (60), and top 12 and I found alot more
knowledgable people (conerning drum corp) in the "lower" classes. There's also 
a more sense of family among people in those classes.... In alot of cases (even
close friends of mine), people who go to march in top 12 corps lose their sense
of drumcorp, and they tend to think just because their corp is better that they
as people are better. I'm not saying this to offend anybody, I just wanted to 
say my piece. There is alway going to be a level of competition between bands 
and drumcorps and drum corps and drum corps...

--kel
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    Internet: kal@ftp.com		  26 Princess St.
    Voice: (617) 224-6369	          Wakefield, MA 01880

..please don't flame me, I can't afford an asbestos suit! :)
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From: netwise@teal.csn.org (Netwise Inc)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: **** "Glory" ****
Keywords: glory,music,corp
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:40:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <1992Apr9.212021.14647@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn) writes:
>I like questions I can answer!  The answer is yes.  Spirit of Atlanta
>played music from the movie "Glory" last year.  Their hornline still
>can fill up a stadium.  They had a very morose ending to their show,
>with a single bugler playing while crosses were put on the field.

It was the best show that Spirit had put on in years. I can't say that
I really dislike any corps, but Spirit didn't *connect* with the crowd
in many of their shows in the late 80s.

The ending was indeed haunting.

In a just world, Spirit will be moving up this summer.

>-- Donald

--phil
From: jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Rule on Age
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:53:03 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr10.151110.9624@infonode.ingr.com>, windhamj@iaserv.b1.ingr.com (Jeff Windham) writes:
> 
> I know I could not get on with a larger corp this late, but if I am eligible 
> I would at least like to try an join the only corp in Alabama, down in 
> Montgomery.

"At least" is a pretty strong phrase to use against SouthWind these days.
You may well find getting in there so late won't be possible after they
won the Div. II championship last year.  From what I heard, they had a
pretty good recruiting season with lots of out-of-state folks interested
in joining.  If you like, I can check with some people I know down there.

> Also, if someone could please post the addres or phone number where I can 
> order som of the DCI cd's.  All this talk of Maleguana and Phantom have really
> gotten me in the mood to hear them again.

Try:  1-800-344-2772
This is DCI's number; you should be able to get a catalog from them.
 
> Jeff "Boner" Windham

 - jay g.
From: rlapham@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Richard Lapham)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: assymetrical drill
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:46:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncratl.52631
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

fath1@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
: 
: BTW, SCV is the only corps to make finals every year.  I posted
: earlier that I thought Madison might have also.  They didn't make
: DCI finals until 1974 but have been in every year since then.

You forgot STAR has been in finals every year, that is finals
EVERY year it competed.  Of course SCV may have been in every 
DCI Final since DCI started.
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:35:17 -0400 
From: David James Foremsky <df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: uniform question

On 09-Apr-92 in uniform question             
user grs01146@runt.appstate.e writes:
>	I say that spats worn on the feet of the performers attracts attention
>to that area just as gauntlets or plumes would to their respective areas.  
>Therefore i feel like spats would indicate exposure of individual and ensemble
>marching technique rather than my friend who theorises that spat hide marching
>technique.

I would think that if a corps (or band) wants to emphasize marching
technique, they would wear white shoes, and not just spats.  With spats,
the ensemble can still wear black shoes and hide technique problems,
while the white shoes emphasize marching technique.

Sorry, there are no references to speak of, just my own opinions.

deej
From: nih00@ccc.amdahl.com (Neil Hamilton)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Petition: John Maddon for DCI judge.
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:11:44 GMT
Reply-To: nih00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Neil Hamilton)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr15.185432.7284@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.121140.2358@ducvax.auburn.edu> jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>>In article <1b0G026M10pT01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, nih00@ccc.amdahl.com (Neil Hamilton) writes:
>>> In article <14APR199211284480@rigel.tamu.edu> dlg5892@rigel.tamu.edu (GRIMES, DAVID L, III) writes:
>>>>
>>>>	I would love to see john maddon do a dci competition. Could you
>>>>see his little chalk drawings all over the screen? :)
>>> 
>>> Someone already did this on the finals tv show.  They did the start
>>> of the BD show.  It wasn't until I saw the drawings that I noticed 
>>> that the show started with a tic-tac-toe design and moved in to a
>>> geometric design.
>>
>>It was two-three years ago, I believe, and the commentator was
>>drill designer Michael Cesario.  "Watch as this group moves here,
>>this group moves here.   Then solid form, solid form... from linear
>>form.  Was it the Cavies' show he was diagraming?
>>
>> - Jay
>
>I'm pretty sure it was the 1986 Blue Devils show.  I have it on
>tape somewhere.  After the drawing on the screen, Steve Rondinero (sp?)
>said, "John Madden's got nothing on you."
>
>-- Donald

And the winner is

It was 1987 in Kansas City and the show was the Blue  Devils.

Michael Cesario said (among other things) tic-tac-to that will
build into several wedges

[...]

solid-form solid-form out of liniar form.

Between the three of us we would have one great mind.

Neil
From: grs01146@runt.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: uniform question
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:39:05 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University





one of my best friends and i (we drummajored for rival high schools, marched 
dci together, march in college together, are both music majors, are brothers of
Kappa Kappa Psi and we work in show design currently) have a running argument
about a very insignificant aspect of the "marching" activity concerning

	
	I say that spats worn on the feet of the performers attracts attention
to that area just as gauntlets or plumes would to their respective areas.  
Therefore i feel like spats would indicate exposure of individual and ensemble
marching technique rather than my friend who theorises that spat hide marching
technique.

He quotes DCI announcer Rondinaro as the source for this comment and i cannot
believe it.  Can someone find this reference for me?

the only situation that i see where spats would hide technique is in the rare
occaision that the color of the spats matches the color of the trousers...

thanks...

ptSLOAN
"sir dolittle the KNYGHTE"
grs01146@runt.appstate.edu
Appalachian State University 
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From: netwise@teal.csn.org (Netwise Inc)
Subject: Re: 1988 Madison Scouts played Malaguena
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:55:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.091501.10875@husc3.harvard.edu> fath1@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
> Yes,the answer is the Madison Scouts, who came from behind and beat
>everyone at DCI Finals in Kansas City in 1988.  That was the one year the
>DCI tried that wacky idea of not having corps go on in reverse order at
>Finals.  Instead, corps 7-12 from Semis picked a random performance order
>and corps 1-6 did the same.  The intentions were good - but it was doomed
>to fail.  The overwhelming majorityof fans IMHO prefer to know the scores
>from Semis.
>
> But the random draw did work well in Madison's favor.  Nobody knew who
>was in the lead.  When Madison was announced the winner, the place erupted
>in cheers.  

Actually, the prelim placements were a poorly-kept secret. I found out about
half-way through finals that Madison had won the night before.  This was a big
shock, because BD had come through the entire season undefeated to that point.
The Happy Days lasted until that last week in KC.

It's great fun to go to nationals year after year....the faces become quite
familiar, and there are always new rumors about something going around. The
year of the Mystery Scores was one of most spectacular failed experiments that
DCI has done. Another was the year in KC ('88, too?) that they had a
professional trumpeter play the national anthem. While he was setting up his
gear, there were plenty of people shouting "No Amplifiers!" from the crowd.
DCI doesn't permit *any* amplification for corps performances. The poor guy
got blasted non-stop by some horrendus feedback from his sound system. Lip
readers in the crowd added dozens of words to their vocabulary. It was quite
fun -- it definitely set the party mood for the evening.

--phil
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From: cadets@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (William Michael Putman)
Subject: marching DCI
Keywords: DCI
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:20:04 GMT


	This is going out to anyone interested in auditioning for a  
corps this season. I am a member of the Cadets of Bergen County, and  
anyone is interested in learning more about how to audition for this  
years corps, please E-Mail me at-
		     Cadets@wam.umd.edu

Your rapid response is appreciated!!

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From: nih00@uts.amdahl.com (NEIL)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: George Zingali obituary
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:48:58 GMT
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Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In previous article, fath1@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>From Boston Globe (March 9?)
>
>George M. Zingali, 40
>Olympic choreographer
>
>George M. Zingali, a choreographer and designer of routines for
>marching bands, drum and bugle corps, and color guards, died Friday
>[March 6] at his home in Revere [MA].  He was 40.
>
>
>Mr. Zingali, a native of New York City, attended New York University and
>Boston College.
>
>He won several awards for his work desiging the routines of color guards
>and marching bands, among them the champion Quasar and Erte bands of Revere.
>
>He choreographed the opening and closing ceremonies of the 1980 Winter
>Olympics in Lake Placid, NY.
>
>Mr. Zingali attended the Actors and Directors Laboratory in New York from
>1983 to 1986 and acted in several plays.  His last performance was in
>"The Shadow Box" in 1990.
>
>He leaves his mother, Mae F. of Revere.  A funeral Mass will be said at
>St. Anthony's Church in Revere.  Burial will be in Holy Cross Cemetery
>in Malden.
>
>
>	(If you want to read a wonderful tribute to George Zingali, look
>	at Mike Boo's article in March DCW - mf)
>
What a great job Mike did on his article.  What a tribute to     
George Zingali.


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