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From: pvanmeur@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Pim van Meurs)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush shoots own foot again!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:17:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

>I think you are missing the point when he talks about the "right to die"
>and the death penalty.  Right to die legislation is irresponsible on the
>part of the people approving it because they are saying that it is alright
>to kill someone even though they may recover or go into remission and so
>or they can take it to extremes and if they don't think that person would
>want to live they can go ahead and kill them; that I think is wrong.
>
>Now; the death penalty is something completely different from right to die.
>Since this person did something that warranted a judge and jury ( and 
>several other judges for that matter) to sentence this man to death then
>he should pay for his crime.  He did something wrong and has to pay for it.
>And for those of you that think that the death penalty is not an effective
>deterant: tell me how many people that have commited a crime after being
>executed.  The death penalty is for those individuals that commited certain
>types of crimes not because they are inconvient.
>		Morris Fields.


As much as the death penalty can be applied to an innocne tperson,
the 'right to die' could be abused. The right to die is much more
than getting rid of 'unwanted' people. It's allowing people the
dignity of ending their lives when the only fututre is a slow death
with incruciating pains. Basically terminally ill people who are
suffering unduely.
My garndfather was administered morfine when he was suffocating in
the fluid s building up in his own longs, thus speeding up his death
dramatically. He had begged my mother to do this and when the time
came she was more than glad to help. The doctor and nurse involved
both were willing to risk their careers. My grandfather suffered
much less than he would have even under sedation/drugs. 
When my mother came down with a blockage of the bloodflow to her
brain, she was pronounced brain damaged after 8 hours and with pain
in our hearts but convinced of doing the right thing, we pulled the
plug to the life support.

The right to die is being presented by Rush similarly to the way he
presents feminism. he defines it in such a limited, politically
biased way that of course one has to disagree with him on this
subject. This topic however is very dear to me and I believe that it
is the downfall of our society if we deny suffering persons the
right to die. 

Pim van Meur





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From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Subject: Re: Supreme Court Nominee
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: na, world
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:31:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.090211.23103@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
>It is likely that Clinton will get to nominate at least one Supreme Court 
>Justice during his First Term (roll that around in your mouths, and savor 
>the implication of 'first' versus 'only' (you know, like Bush's _only_ term)).
>Who do you think makes dittoheads cringe more;
>
>1) Supreme Court Justice Mario Cuomo
>2) Supreme Court Justice Hillary Clinton
>3) Supreme Court Justice Anita Hill
>4) Supreme Court Justice Jimmy Carter

Ha Ha..not a chance any of these will be nominated.  Maybe Cuomo but he will
be the intellectual laughing butt of the court--he has a mouth but Supreme
Court?  Come on...

The Nominee will be 

	hold your breath......

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From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Democratic Whiners Can't Take It
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:16:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

In article <1992Nov10.171300.11448@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>John Switzer               | Impeach Clinton!
>                           | Support the coup!

I'd like to make a couple of comments in this thread concerning John's
current .sig.

I really don't mind it very much, after all it is a free country and you
can say just about anything you want to. (It is illegal to threaten
the life of the president with mere words.) But I do think that is it
pretty stupid. Mainly since Clinton isn't president yet!! He is the
President-ELECT. You can't impeach someone who isn't the president yet!
GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE TO SCREW UP FIRST!!!

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (Alumni)
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
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From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: Re: Sore LosDEREGISTER
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:19:03 GMT

hagerjd@triton.unm.edu (John D. Hager) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.190243.1@woods.ulowell.edu> enor@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>>It ceases to amaze me how the Liberals are such sore
>>winners.  We who call ourselves conservatives have 
>>been very gracious to Mr. Clinton saying we hope for
>>the sake of the country that he does a good job.  This 
>>is a far cry from the teary eyed Liberal attack of 
>>George Bush from the Halls of Congress for the past 
>>four years.  
>>
>>We look forward to working with a Clinton Administration
>>to bring about the best for America.  However we will 
>>disagree with him on pertinent issues.  I wish him luck
>>but have this feeling that the American people will
>>be fed up with him by June of '93.  Maybe I'll be wrong
>>for that is in the best interest of the country.

>AMEN!

All very true!
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Electoral Mandate?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:21:23 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Nov5.000942.29995@EE.Stanford.EDU> budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:
->First, the percentages between reagan and mondale were a little more
->widespread than those for clinton/bush.
->
->Second, mondale won only one state(minn) as well as the
->people's republic of washington d.c., a FAR greater
->difference than clinton/bush.
->So, I hardly think that the media is(sic) being consistant.(sic)

 The Landslide Media Myth is also exposed when you examine what happened
at the state level senate and house races. The republicans did exceptionally
well. A total of 10 states had a shift in the ruling party of either the
house or senate. All shifts went to the republicans. Some races are still
being counted but it looks like a Republican victory at the state govern-
ment level. Now the democrates are indeed the Nationalist party. The book
is still out on just how Socialist the New Democratic Party is with Pres-
ident-Elect Clinton.
 With gains in the U.S. House of Representatives and a possible wash in the
US Senate, no landslide can be claimed due to the fact that no "coat tails"
were attached. Its possible that the anti-incumbant vote and anti-clinton
vote showed up in state elections. It takes time to work its way to the 
top. 

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:18:09 GMT

jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.082832.19492JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov5.034239.3528@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>>"
>>"
>>"Since George is on his way out, we will no longer need alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
>>"alt.rush-limbaugh, or alt.politics.bush.  I will be sending out the
>>"rmgroups for these three groups.  Also, since Clinton is now president,
>>"I will create alt.president.clinton.  Since the volume should be large,
>>"we'll hold on to alt.politics.clinton for a while.
>>"
>>"
>>"Ta-ta for now,
>>"M
>>
>>
>>Good idea - I beat you to it!! rmgroups for alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and
>>alt.politics.bush have been sent out as well as a newgroup for
>>alt.president.clinton. I forgot alt.rush-limbaugh - you do the honors
>>for that one.

>Ah it warms my heart to see the self-declared defenders of the First 
>Amendment so willing and ready to destroy the free speech rights of 
>anyone they don't agree with. A certain prelude to what will happen 

What do you expect?  Liberals and free speech go together like oil and
water (respectively).
-- 
Things will get better despite our efforts to improve them.  -- Will Rogers
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From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: WANKERS
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:02:55 GMT

tom@eagle.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk) writes:

>In article <1992Nov4.163946.5694@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 
>|> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!  CLINTON WINS  HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
>|> 
>|> HA HA YOU BUNCH OF WANKERS.  ALL OF YOU BUSH SUPPORTERERS ARE A BUNCH OF
>|> LOSERS!!!  WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW YOU CRY BABIES?  ARE YA GONNA CRY TO
>|> MAMA?  HAHAHAHAHAH!!!  CLINTON WINS!!!!  HERE IS A GIFT FROM ME TO ALL
>|> OF YOU WANKING FOOLS:
>|> 


>- such mature and inciteful comments(!) usually one needs to frequent
>low cost drinking establishments or automobile repair centers to enjoy
>such thoughtful conversation. Alas if abortion becomes more widespread
>I fear you and blessed ilke may be sucked out of the body politic.

Yet another reason for pro-choice.
From: pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Jan 20 92 Iraq Libya invade neighbors.
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:04:33 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

Doug Quarnstrom writes:
>In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, enor@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>> 
>> NEWS FLASH--- June 21, 1993
>> 	GLOBAL THERMO-NUCLEAR WAR!!!!!!!!!!
>> 	Due to the unchecked aggression of Saddam Hussein and Mohmar Kudafi. 
>>They have acquired by force a single Nuclear weapon from the Former Soviet Ship
>> of the Black Sea Fleet.  They are threating to deliver it to the United States
>> unless all of their demands are met.  Bill Clinton said "Change, they must
>> learn to change.  And have the COURAGE to do so."  Stay tuned.
>
>><--May seem unrealistic to some but the mid-East tyrants have the taste of war 
>>    in their mouths.  
>
>It is such typical fear-mogering, I am surprised you are not a liberal.
>There is as much chance that Billy C. will be overly quick to use
>the military to prove his credibility as there is that he will
>do nothing.
>
i agree.  that in fact may be the greater danger of a clinton presidency.

if you've never read "the sum of all fears" by tom clancy, now is an awful good
time to do so...clancy's "president fowler" is almost prophetic in his
similarities to president-elect clinton...and the plot is along the same lines
as the above "news flash"...

slick willie as president...might be fun on the domestic front...but his
foreign policy may be the most dangerous we've seen in the white house yet...

and you thought jimmy earl was bad...

clueless chuck
pearsodc@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: The Rush Blimp?
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:36:07 GMT

crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:
>nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>>    Alex Crain set a great honesty example a while back when he was 
>>upfront about having used marijuana; I'll try to emulate him (and go him 
>>one better). Not only have I smoked pot, I've used cocaine. However, I 
>>learned as a cocaine user that I was getting a very inferior high, and 
>>"I don't do that no more" (to coin a phrase from the Smothers brothers). 
>>I don't see how education can get any more personal than that. I *know* 
>>it to be true, and I have absolutely zero further interest in cocaine.

>This is impossible.  Cocaine and marijuana are illegal because they are
>addictive drugs, a single use of which will addict you and ruin your life.
>You're telling us that you've used these drugs and are neither addicted nor
>ruined?  You must be lying. (Or somebody else is.)

    I'm telling you that I'm not addicted. As far as ruination is concerned 
I plead guilty on all counts, but I would say in my defense that I was 
probably ruined long before I ever used cocaine. The result of reading too 
much P.G. Wodehouse, I'm afraid.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush is such a bad loser
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:42:45 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 14586@EE.Stanford.EDU, budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:
>Anyway, the Boxer-Herschensohn campaign was particularly ugly, and
>Mrs. Boxer was highly ungracious, even offencive, in her acceptance
>speech out here. (the party was in San Francisco, of course. All that
>was missing from the three-ring circus was the dancing bear.) SHe 
>effectively did what Johnson did in 1964 against Goldwater, albeit with
>much less potent results. She painted Mr. Herschensohn as an extremist
>(and perhaps he is a bit right of centre). But, she accused him of
>terrible bigotry which was not evident in the campaign. I disagree with
>his stance on abortion rights and military spending (slash ALL spending).
>But, I think that she was terribly personal and nasty. Maybe that is
>why she jsut squeaked by (perhaps slid by on a couple of those
>143 bounced cheques.)

You make it sound like this was a one-way ugly campaign.  It was not.
Herschensohn did not even give a concession speech until the next day
and when he did he was especially bitter.  He knew it was over at about
8:01PM when the exit poll results were announced, however he failed to
give a concession speech that night.  No class.


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From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,talk.bizarre,alt.politics.clinton,misc.legal
Subject: Re: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 13 Nov 1992 16:56:32 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobra.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <BD.92Nov13074607@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
|
|Article 1, Section 8:  The Congress shall have the power to
|                       regulate commerce with foreign nations,
|                       and among the several states, and with
|                       the Indian tribes.
|
|I would suggest (and again I repeat that I am not a Constitutional
|scholar) that this seems to cover many of the departments you
|mention above, including EPA, DOT, FDA, OSHA, DOA, and DOE.

I believe the word you are looking for is "interstate."

c
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From: joseph@c2a.crd.ge.com (joseph)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.president.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Network projections
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: joseph@c2a.crd.ge.com (joseph)
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.president.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Organization: GE Research


In article <1992Nov9.125548.20468@osf.org>, Terri Buchman <buchman@osf.org> writes:
>
>That's right!  Two of my brothers live in NH and the fact that they
>face the highest property taxes in the nation makes them proud to be
>New Hampshirites.

  I don't know where your brothers live.  So I don't know the exact
rates of the property tax that they have.  But New Hampshire is by
no means the state/county/locality with the highest property tax burden.
From a Money magazine article on this topic (March 1992 ?), of the five
counties with the highest property tax burden, three are in New
Jersy and two are in New York (or the other way around?)

>The Republicans would never allow a state sale
>tax or any other broad-based tax to be used for the improvement of
>schools in the Granite State.  After all, if the people want better
>schools let them pay for private ones.  And if you live in a poor
>district that can't get much money from your poor rural citizens,
>well tough.  After all NH is the Live Free or Die state and everyone
>knows that public education is really a communist plot.
>
>Of course there is the little matter of the class action suit that
>might force NH to find a more equitable system of funding than the
>regressive property tax.  It seems almost funny that the only way
>that tax relief can come to NH is through a lawsuit, but any other
>way would force someone in state government to admit that there is a
>problem. 

  How a sales tax is any less regressive than property taxes is beyond
me.  Yes, a sales tax is broad based - it will catch all those
homeless people who don't pay any property taxes, and all those
people who live in rented apartments.  But how does that make it
progressive ?

  I don't know the details of the democratice "broad based" proposal,
but I would venture a guess that the democrats wanted to have a
sales tax IN ADDITION to the allegedly high property taxes.  And
the republicans said no ?

james joseph                    joseph@c2a.crd.ge.com
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From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: To JRS et.al-coexist
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:29:00 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <92310.122529ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>  By the way I think John Switzer's comment on starting a coup is one of the mo
>st un-patriotic, un-american, self-righteous statements ever made.  Nobody woul
>d be more incensed by that remark than President Bush.  His conciliatory manner
> has been most honorable. John,you have no honor.  Perhaps if you started liste
>ning to all sides of an issue, instead of blindly following your demigod, Rush,
>you might achive a higher level of conciousness.

If you want to read some REAL un-patriotic, un-american statments I suggest
you look up Rep. Maxine Waters' statements in the wake of the LA riots.  That
this woman has not been impeached for conduct unbecoming a Representative is
symptomatic of what is wrong with the Congress.

>   Thanks, Ed Beecher



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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Re: Those Wacky Conservatives!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:17:57 GMT

htuttle@nyx.cs.du.edu (Harry Tuttle) writes:

> [A bunch of stuff accusing Rush of being a sexist and a racist omitted]

>The problem with staunch conservatism is that it is a morally 
>indefensible position.  It often (not always) promotes selfishness under
>the guise of "free enterprise", ignores social problems by citing
>"lack of government involvement" and perpetuates the subjugation of
>women (see "feminazis").  Now I know that not all conservatives fall
>into this moral quagmire, but too many do.  And Rush encourages it.

>Well, feel free to tell me what a leftist nut I am.  Call me crazy, but
>I just believe in the Declaration of Independence when it says that
>ALL are created equal (even women, minorities, homosexuals and tax-and-
>spend liberals).  

The problem with people who have problems with conservatism is their 
view that it is a governmental imperative to invade every corner of my life.
They feel that government is far more qualified than I to decide how 
my money should be spent, how my life should be lived, and how charitable I
should be.  They feel that the only moral force is the government.  They
feel that the honest accumulation of wealth through hard work is not only
immoral, but just plain evil.  All [persons] are _created_ equal, but
liberalism would have all of them remain at that level by the mandatory
redistribution of wealth -- "From each according to his abilities, to each
according to his needs."  Sound familiar?

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