From: cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:00:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.154640.11516@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.054042.8908@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu  
>(Chang-ning Qu) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct6.220438.26658@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu  
>(Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>> >Yes, there are always these two kinds of people, ultra-leftests and  
>> >ultra-rightests, just like there are always beggars, prostitutes and  
>> >religiously crazy people in a society. But this does not mean these people  
>are  
>> >the treasure of a society.
>> >
>> >Carl
>> 
>> 
>>     Another nonsense from Carl since he mixed good and bad as a
>> stuff. Don't be "wan2 shi4 bu4 gong1" (seeing everything is bad
>> and wrong). Patriot and traitor are not so called ultra-leftests
>> or ultra-rightests, not to mention comparing with beggars, prostitutes
>> and religiously crazy people(real nonsense). If this Carl's logical
>> ability alright? (I read many his postings and found him almost
>> always using toggling logic (i.e. NOT in Boolean algebra) to
>> the points that most people think to be right and expressing the same
>> or agreements to those strange and garbage-like postings). I don't want
>> giving prescription to this guy, but one thing I am going to 
>> remind you who is hero, who is funk, who is good, who is bad,
>> people will have their judgment. 
>
>
>Hey, Do you know a lot of patriot CSS in this net zealously claim that Tibet  
>and Inner Mongolia parts of China (possibily true) and the Tibetans and  
>Mogolians are Chinese. So, tell me how Yue Fei showed his patriotism by  
>fighting ruthlessly against Nuu Zhen minority in the north to save an already  
>dacayed Southern Song Dynasty. If Yue Fei had had succeeded, then probably we  
>would not proudly have had Tebit, Inner Mongolia and even Manchuria as our  
>territories. To me, histroy is just something happened in the past and  
>historical figures like Yue Fei is nothing more than Wang2 Po2 (old lady Wang  
>who helped Mr. Ximen and Ms. Pan1 Jin1lian2 poisoned Wu3 Da4lang2). What Yue  
>Fei did might have been good to China, or might have been very bad. No one  
>knows. Just as nobody know if it is good thing or not for the British warships  
>knocked open China's gate by cannons. 
>
>I just want to be realistic. To me, if people can enjoy good life, then the  
>government is good. Otherwise, it is bad no matter how many beautiful slogans  
>they chant and how much patriotism some people in the government show or  
>pretend to show. ask yourselves, we the people, like other living species, live  
>in this very earth for what?
>
>Carl
> 


   Carl, you really confused me your intellegence. 
   Yue Fei was a hero thousands years ago for 
   anti-invasion from  then-foreigners(though today
   they became a member as minority of China). 
   If you don't review the history with time coordinate,
   you couldn't get any correct results(conclusions) on
   every history events(because they are passed, therefor,
   old). That's really stupid. It seems you are in engineering
   major, I am very supprised you logical ability. I just hope
   you don't blame old Newton for some of his out-of-date laws
   on sciences!

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