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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 21:05:01 EDT
From: <PVJQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Analysis of Gujju Jokes...

First of all let me make it clear, I am not a Gujju.
Lately a lot of Gujju Jokes were seen on the net. Some humorous, others
not.  There were some flames exchanged too.  I thought I would post
some thing which is my opinion on different accents seen in our languages.

       If you notice, these jokes were mainly made on words from foreign
languages like English used in Gujarathi.  There is no provision for those
`sounds' in Gujarathi.  The sounds `a' as in Apple and `auo' as in Doctor
do not have any direct representation and    ^                      ^
hence get pronounced using the available set of vowels and then `Apple'
sounds like `eppal' and `Dauoctor' sounds like `doctor' (as in donor).
So `pack the bag' sounds like `peck the beg'.  This will only happen with
pronounciation of Foreign words.  Same thing with Hindi.  `Standard' is
pronounced as `steindard' and Doctor is pronounced as `Dactar'.
With time one sees some adaptation and provision for pron. and writing
of foreign words. In marathi, if I remember,  we are taught `a' as in `*a*rrow'
and `auo' as in `*o*n'.
Well, so this is what I think.  It is really interesting to see these
different languages and how those pronounciations in our mother-tongues
reflect in other languages.

I hope this posting does not generate any flames.  If I have not used the
correct transliteration for some sounds, that is my limitation (it is
also getting a little late!).
I have written this with all good intentions...
ciao...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: News: Exchange Rates - April 2, 1992.
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:41:59 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

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From: grx1533@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Travel by Gulf Air?
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:13:36 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Apr11.182107.1003@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, hrp@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> I would greatly appreciate if any of the netters can post their experiences
> with Gulf Air to India. I will try to post a summary on the net. Thanks.
> 
> P
PLEASE POST THE INFORMATION RECEIVED SINCE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS INCLUDING ME
THAT MAY BE INTERESTED .      
THANX.
PANKAJ (UOFTOLEDO)
From: ram@artecon (Ramesh S. Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: *Requesting Info*
Date: 13 Apr 1992 13:02:15 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hello World

	My friend plans to take his GC interview in India along with his 
	fiancee, who has just completed her MBBS degree. He wants to 
	know what it takes for her to come here (after getting the
	card) and practice/go to school/whatever. Please send your replies
	to:

		ram%artecon@hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com

	Thank you.	
								*Ramesh*
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: spm1@rruxc.uucp (25674-owens)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:13:45 GMT
Summary: Hey, What's happening Dude!!
	 This newsgroup is monitored. Would you like your System Admin or
	 your Dean at Rutgers to read your response.

In article <Apr.11.22.34.28.1992.14158@yoko.rutgers.edu>, mchari@yoko.rutgers.edu (Murali Chari) writes:
> WHAT THE F__K IS GOING ON - I DON`T SEE ANY GUJJU JOKES OR SIMILAR 
> 
> CONTRIBUTIONS - JUST SOME STUPID ARGUMENT ABOUT NATONALITY.
> 
> WHY IS IT THAT SOME DOLTS NEVER GET IT RIGHT ??? YOU GET INTO S.C.I. ;
> 
> START LOOKING THROUGH - GET TO GUJJU JOKES THINKING ABOUT THE HUMOUR 
> 
> THEY MIGHT CONTAIN - AND THEN YOU SEE THIS F____D UP ARGUMENT .....


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: What is Culture? Indian Culture? [A New Thread] Any Takers?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:05:51 GMT
Keywords: New discussion topic
From: ratan@ring8.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOC.CULTURE.kannada, hindi, sanskrit, prakrith
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:40:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr17.90655.4953@ms.uky.edu>, lakshman@ms.uky.edu (Lakshman) writes:
> Why  not! If you can   have SCT, how could you forget the other languages!
> come  on , give me a break!
> - Lakshman


Don't make me laugh ha!ha! ha! Ha!   ............. many times

You are comparing These languages to Tamil????

Don't be stupid. Tamil is the greatest and oldest language known to
the mankind (or, womankind). Tamil deserves a different class.
Separation is justified. Case closed.
From: mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for Sadhan Bakre
Date: 11 Apr 92 11:46:45 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


>       I am looking for Sadhan Bakre.
>He passed out College of Engineering, Guindy, Madras in the
    ^^^^^^^^^^
>year 1988.
>

Are you new in US ? You meant " graduated " , right ?

I used to say " passed out " a lot when I was new .  My American friends had a
great time then !

Kassu
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 17:34:03 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Memorial to victims of 1984 Sikh riots.
Distribution: world

In article <kubmsfINN1ki@spim.mips.com>, reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) says:
>
>     As far as I know, there has been no memorial put up for the victims
>of the 1984 riots in New Delhi. Does anyone know if there are plans to put
>one up?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>--
>T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)

What good is a memorial for the victims of the 1984 riots when the
culprits (some Cong(i) leaders and their goons) have not been brought
to justice ? Let the first thing come first otherwise everything else
is simply a window dressing !

                          Deepak
From: sarwate@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Dilip V. Sarwate)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Anyone read VEDIC Mathematics ?
Date: 13 Apr 1992 14:36:45 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu

The book is titled Vedic Mathematics, OR Sixteen Simple Mathematical Formulae
from the Vedas, For One-line Answers to All Mathematical Problems, by
Jagadguru Swami Sri Bharati Krsna Tirthaji Maharaja, Sankaracharya of Govardhana
Matha, Puri.*   Copyright (1989) is held by the publisher, Motilal Banarsidass
Publishers Pvt Ltd, Bungalow Road, Jawahar Nagar, New Delhi 110 007.  The book
was originally published in 1965.  It is still in print (I bought a copy in
December 1991).  The ISBN numbers are 81-208-0163-6 for the cloth-bound edition
(Rs. 100) and 81-208-0164-4 for the paperback edition (Rs. 60).  The
frontispiece has a photograph of the author and the dates 1884-1960, so the
author is presumably NOT the professor at Ranchi or wherever as speculated by
some others.  The professor at Ranchi is presumably the author of other
book(s?) on the subject.
 
 
*Many diacritical markings in the name and title of the author cannot be
reproduced on an ASCII terminal and hence have not been included
From: n0r1688@summa.tamu.edu (RAGHUNAND, NATARAJAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CITY OF JOY:my opinion
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:40:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <odvQRgi00WBL84vHUX@andrew.cmu.edu>, jr55+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jyothi 
Rengarajan) writes...

>   The film has all the ingredients of a good masala movie except that
>it tries to make a POINT, you see. About India, about Poverty, about
>Love, Salvation, Hope, Inner Strength, about Adversity; about Good and
>Evil, the former of course triumphing over the latter. Hurrah for the
>poor rickshaw puller Hasari and his brave little family! Hurrah for the
>lepers!

It's that same old "human interest angle" syndrome in a new avatar. Some years
back (just prior to VP Singh's election as PM) I read an article in the LA Times
 The writer was reporting on the elections that were coming up in India, and of
course, he chose to give the story a liberal dose of the "human element". The 
protagonist of the article was an Indian male with a suitably desi name, a poor
laborer, long oppressed by a nameless landlord, but who had not lost faith in
democracy through all of it (we pause here, to allow all the Americans --- those
gentle ambassadors of democracy --- to wipe a warm tear forming at the corner
of their eye). Of course, the nearest polling station was "half a day's walk 
away" and the story ended with ol' "Gunga Din" walking off into the sunset, his
jaw set firmly in determination --- he wasn't going to be late at the polling 
station the next day, oh no, he wasn't. He would show those evil, uncaring 
masters in Delhi, yes he would......
	I am sure there are plenty of evil landlords in our country, but when
any story about them ends with the little guy determindely walking off into
the sunset, one wonders at the sincerety of the writer. If he wants to write
soppy fiction, he should stay away from journalism.
This movie probably also suffers from the same problem --- got to have the 
"baby-Jessica-stuck-in-a-hole element in it" or it won't do business. Especially
if it is about India (where's that, man ?).

And if in the process the movie bags an Oscar, who's complaining.

-Raghu
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"Beethoven ?"

"Bathe often ? Yeah man --- about once a day. (Sniff, sniff) You know, you ought
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
Subject: Re: Kashmir: some questions?
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:23:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.213611.26148@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam
Ghosh) writes:
> 	I want some knowledgable netters to shed more light on this.
> Normally the discussion on Kashmir starts from the war of 1948. But we
> fail to take into account the histry immediately preceeding. Kashmir, Jammu
> and Ladakh were three different regions with different history. Kashmir was
> overrun first by the Khalsa empire in 1819 and then the Hindu kings of Jammu,
> in 1847. Their rule was never recognized to be legitimate by the local
populace,


This is true. In fact the Kashmir valley was sold to the Hindu king. (I guess
they were the Dogras)



> not to speak of the imbecile Hari Singh. So how can he take such an important
> decision which will affect the rest of the Kashmiris for all their future. 


He had no right.



It's
> like the British, deciding that India should unite with say USSR, in face of
> the Japanese threat. Can the proponents who denies Kashmir the right to 
> independence illustrate how Hari Singh got the right to decide on the behalf
of
> the Kashmiris?
> Note that Kashmir was always independent and fought hard to remain
independent
> in face of the Mughal rule. And there is no evidence that the majority of the
> Kashmiris want to unite with Pakistan. So Pakistan need to do some
> soul-searching wrt Azad Kashmir as well.
> Go on, flame me both the Indian and Pakistan chauvinists. I will take note of
> only logical arguments. I am an Indian, if somebody wants to know. My
personal
> preference is an economic fedaration of all the South-asian nations with
> transparent boundaries.
> 					Arindam
> 

--Javed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shahr@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (SHAH  RITESH)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:19:56 GMT

In article <AdsbSbS00WAoI1j7Fo@andrew.cmu.edu> "Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai" <sohan+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts From Captions of netnews.soc.culture.indian:
> 8-Apr-92  Re: GUJJU JOKES.........       patelsa1@woods.ulowell.e (358)    
>> 
>>"Gujju" means the people from the state of gujarat, and I heard that they are 
>>the most intelligent people from India. It seems true to me because most of 
>>people like to make fun of great people or person in this world (By reffering 
>>the joks)
>
>You are probably right. Gujjus do consider themselves the most
>intelligent people from India.
>:-)

Well, how about this one ??

Q) What would a Gujju say when asked about his exam performance ?

A) "Saint per saint !"    

Another totally unrelated Gujju joke - 

Q) Why did the Gujju go to the Vatican ?

A) 'cuz he wanted to hear "Pope music"

- Ritesh Shah
- Internet "shahr@ecf.toronto.edu"
From: rahul@ut-emx.uucp (Rahul Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian wildlife, the Himalayas & other things
Keywords: Himalayas, Wildlife, Trekking
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:41:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

This addition was sparked off by a recent article comparing the pleasures
of trekking in the Himalayas to the pleasures of trekking in the various
regions of the US (whose chains I've lost!).

I have trekked the Himalayas a lot, with a slightly different orientation,
though. I've been after the wildlife, mainly the birdlife--and as you
would imagine, that immediatly implies a lot of trekking. And it also
implies trekking with as small a group as possible--I usually had only
one companion. We used to end up making a number of friends among
the local population, especially in areas where we returned to again and again.

My favourite spots have been the beautiful rolling hills of Kumaun due east
of Almora; and the devastating beauty of the Himalayas, which you
see once in spring (around April, with the rhododendrons in bloom) and then
in late August and early September at high altitudes, around the Mandal
valley in Garhwal. Both these spots are largely untouched by trekking
teams, and thus are ideal for an introduction to what the Himalayas 
REALLY have to offer in terms of scenic wonder, wildlife & human life too!!

And I totally agree, the Himalayas have a lot more to offer than the
hills/forests of the US, which look 'empty' to me. Partly to do with
the way the country operates--put everything on the map, leave nothing
to chance/exploration, and partly because of the geographical and
ecological differences.

You could write to me at rahul@emx.utexas.edu if you've been into
all of this yourself or would like to someday get together over
here or in India.

(Using this net as a communication link is a bad idea! It uses up too
much bandwidth & is too congested).

Rahul.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Responses, responses
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 23:48:55 GMT

Man, did my article entitled Cacausian/Indian problem ever cause some
response.  Good though.

Thanks for the support from the guys out there.  Of course, everyone
out there was polite in typical s.i.i. fasion.  :)

I participate in this net to try and learn some about Indian culture
and some of the responses were very helpful.  :)

Thanks a lot... look forward to it all...

Michael

P.S  Any girls out there looking for a blonde guy with fair skin who
will treat a special woman like a princess.. :)

o.k.  so flame me for trying... :)

-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS   1-0   at Tigers Monday (4-2), Wednesday and Thursday
 The Rangers jinx continues.  The year they could win, they strike.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14340 soc.culture.sri-lanka:492
From: chandra@cs.tamu.edu (Chandrasekaran Periannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:43:13 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr14.023906.10281@cs.odu.edu> raj@breccia.cs.odu.edu (M.P. Krishna Raj) writes:
>Since tamils are scattered throughout the world and many of them seems
>to be neither citizens of india nor sri-lanka, why not we create
>soc.culture.tamil.international
>
>Why not we start discussing about this from today-Tamil New year day.
>
>
>Krishna raj





	Yes, It is a very good idea. I will fully support any efforts
towards creating such a newsgroup. The name soc.culture.tamil should
suffice, I suppose.

Happy New Year...
chandra
.
From: chandra@cs.tamu.edu (Chandrasekaran Periannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: citizenship
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:23:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr15.160135.12070@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> raja@cps.msu.edu writes:
>
>In article <12381@tamsun>, (Chandrasekaran Periannan) writes:
>
>< 	Tamil is an official language in Singapore and have separate TV and
>                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Now, now, now.  How many TV channels does 
>Singapore have?  India?

	Well, if you want to go off at a tangent and calculate
the ratios you have missed the point. 

	The point is that the situation in Singapore shows 
the respect that the society and the State has for the identity of
ethnice groups constituting the society.

	The Indian government has never shown any regards
for the identity and aspirations of non-Hindi people:
take the media, official languages policy  etc.

	Don't you know how much the federal government
there forces local non-Hindi TV stations to incorporate
Hindi programs during prime time even though it would
be most sensible and natural to let local language
programs to be broadcast? Why should the Madras station
telecast Hindi news which repeats exactly what the English
national news says? What statistics justify such a policy
(other than the unduly special status that Hindi is
accorded)?

	The talk of official languages policy reminds me
of using your own trick of the statistics of ratios.
Singapore has four official languages: Tamil, Chinese, Malay,
and English. Now how many  ethinic groups are there in Singapore
and did you calculate what percentage of the total number of
languages spoken by them all are designated as official languages?
(it is nearly 100%).

Now consider India: 
>
	The federal govenment is designating a language
that is not even spoken by a majority as the sole official
language of the Indian Union. (even if more than 50% spoke
it is still not acceptable whether it should be designated
as the *sole* official language).
	
	

>
>< Radio channels for Tamils which they did not have to fight for, in stark
>  ^^^^^
>
>As you must have noticed during your stay
>in TN, the various "Vaanoli nilayams"
>broadcast mostly in Tamil.

	And you must have noticed during your stay
in TN, the various acts of stupidity by the federal
government including the controversial step on the
part of AIR to force Tamil broadcasters to use the 
Hindi word 'Akashwani' in lieu of the standard and 
neutral English phrase "All India Radio" which has 
been used for decades since the inception of AIR.

	Again, the point here is not numbers but
something.
>
>
>Narayan Sriranga Raja.


chandra.
From: sridhara@plains.NoDak.edu (Venkatesh Sridharan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: IAS, IPS Etc.
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:39:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16714
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

Hi,

Sometime ago, under the subject heading " IAS, IPS Etc..", one person
who was/is from the IPS  posted an article, I tried searching but could'nt
locate the person's email address, if you happen to know his email address
do reply. My address:

sridhara@plains.Nodak.edu



VENKY.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: THAHARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Logical fallacy - Divorce/Marriage
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:23:04 EDT

Too many people are making the following logical error:
 
Fact : Most marriages in India are arranged, most marriages in the US are
       love marriages.
 
Fact : US has a much higher rate of divorce than India does.
 
Error of logic:  Love marriages have a higher rate of divorce than arranged.
 
Even more erroneous interpretation:  Love marriages are the CAUSE of
                                     a lot of divorces.
 
Data needed to make any kind of interpretation of the two facts :  Two
kinds of "control" are needed. 1. Make Americans go through an arranged
marriage and see if their divorce rates are lower. 2. Examine divorce
rates for Indian couples that have love marriages.  These figures would
permit us to say whether at all there is any CORELATION between love
marriages and divorce.  They would still not permit us to comment on any
causal relationship between the two.
 
There are many many other possible explanations why the divorce rates in the
two countries are different.  Of course, several people have pointed out the
logical error in assuming that all failed marriages end in divorce.
 
Harsh Thaker
 
PS : I do not consider one form of marriage to be necessarily "better" than
the other.