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From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Subject: NIN Broken & US imports.
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:52:13 GMT

I've seen the US release of "Broken" at a few shops her in Australia, where
it has not been released.  The funny thing is, all these releases are only
in digipak, no longbox, hence no 3" CD.  At two of the shops I asked at,
the 5" CD had only 6 tracks--what happens to the extra trax during the trip
to Aus?

And does the UK release have the bonus trax?

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From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Subject: KMFDM
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:16:47


Caught another show last night in Palo Alto.  Diatribe (a local San Jose
band) opened.  They were surprisingly good, but industrial isn't the first
adjective that comes to mind.  They had lots of funny videos projected
above the stage: skulls, Brady Bunch and lost and space clips, people
taking pills, and for a split second, what looked like a guy having his way
with a cow (can someone who was there back me up on this?).

Sasha didn't seem to be as into the show as he was the last time, but En
Esch was his usual bizarre self.  The two long-haired heavy metal type
guitarists from the June tour were there as well as some blond woman who
pretty much just danced, but did occasional vocals.  They played for close
to two hours (I think) including two encores (the first of which had about
six songs).  Sorry, I can't recall a lot of the songs because I don't know
them by name, but I'm sure they played Achtung! (only song in the second
encore), Go to Hell, Godlike, and Money.

This was my third time seeing them and they seem to get better and harder
each time without turning into what Ministry is now.  I really wish they'd
put out a live album since (as I've mentioned before) their studio albums
don't pack anywhere near they punch that their live performances do.

Sasha did make some amusing comments about Kill Mother Fucking Nine Inch
Nails.  Apparently he's not too fond of their latest efforts.

Don't miss them.

-milt

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Silicon Graphics, Inc.          |  don't care if it's fuckin' politically
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From: runeb@stud.cs.uit.no (Rune Braathen)
Subject: Re: NIN and interminable whinings on R.M.I.
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:51:02 GMT

In article <168A4D053.MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu> MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu writes:

>I just so happens that I live in the area where Trent Reznor grew up, and
>so do some others as my mail responses show me, and have a little personal
>info to share on him.  This has no relationship to his current music
>in that I still listen to NIN, I still love the music from NIN, and i would
>still pay a hefty $20 to seem them again (for the 5th time actually).

Well, we all do get a bit patriotic don't we. :-) Anyway, it is nice to hear
that you love the music of Trent Reznor, and he might just be a 'dick' to 
formulate it a bit rude, but still NIN is pseudo-industrial non-creative,
in my opinion. If you could recommend some older records, which are, maybe,
better than the last one, on which all my judgement is built at, I would
be really grateful and you might just recruit another 'fan' (though I hate the
term) for NIN. But it better be some more creative thingos than their latest
work. 


/Rune 


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From: visentd@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (davide visentin)
Subject: FLUXUS N.2
Keywords: flu
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:27:11 GMT
Summary: flu

FLUXUS N.2 is the name of a new store in Milano that sells only 
industrial music.You can find a lot of rarities and singolar cds.
There are also,videos and magazines from all over the world.
A meeting point of some kind of art.

			FLUXUS N.2
			Via Bergamo,27
			MILANO,ITALY

			Phone: (....) 02-55 18 08 03


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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs,alt.slack,misc.test,alt.newbie
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:52:33 GMT

In article <1efo3uINNl1@golem.wcc.govt.nz> meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>Maybe the world would become a better place if everyone on rmi
>smoked pot....
>

Yeah.  A lot better.  Just imagine, THOUSANDS of clueless
geeks who would be even _more_ unable to express what little
thoughts they have to begin with.

Like, wow, man.
Awesome. 


"Why can't we all just...    get along.... ?"

Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.hardcore
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:08:01 -0500 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ministry/Godflesh tour
	<gf2epya00WBKA62G1Q@andrew.cmu.edu>

The tour is with Ministry/Sepultura/Helmet and yes it will be coming to
Pittsburgh (or so WDVE announced at the Kiss show last month). When it's
coming? Who knows. The best thing would be just to read In Pittsburgh,
watch Headbanger's Ball on MTV and listen to 97 Rock Sunday nights for
details. Unfortunately the Cro-Mags were supposed to come here but
canceled out so hopefully this will not happen with the Ministry show.


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much to me as long as it's dead
I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Any Neubauten lyrics?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:58:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>       Does anybody have lyrics for "Haus der Luge"?  I've seen people posting
>SkinnyPuppy and Ministry stuff all over the place and I was just
>wondering.
>
>-Mark Storch
>mscc@andrew.cmu.edu
>




The lyrics are contained in the foldout of the vinyl version.  Perhaps theyy
are in the CD also?
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|  'The struggle between God and man breaks    -Kazantzakis   |             |
|   out in everyone.'                                         | Renaissance |
From: cmoore@lab5.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: re:in stereo....
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:50:06 GMT

>   	Chrisx (pronounced Kriss Kross), I'm glad to know that you
> love us so much and want your voice to be heard so badly that you
> posted in stereo. Perhaps you and your friends should go somewhere
> else until you can post like literate, sane human beings who don't
> have cattle prods jammed up their asses.
>
that's so brilliant!  actually i posted twice because this stupid computer  
told me that i wasn't posting at all.  maybe if this damn college got its  
computers working i wouldn't have to hear you whine.  perhaps you should  
also go somewhere else until you can post like "literate, sane human  
beings who don't have cattle prods jammed up their asses", you fucking  
hypocrite.  if you don't want to read  hate-mail, then don't send  
hate-mail.  perhaps you should get some common sense.  
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: s39201e@saha.hut.fi (Jouko Huhtala)
Subject: Depeche Mode
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:11:59 GMT

Does anybody know about Depeche Mode's forthcoming-I-hope album ??
I have heard rumours about March ?


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Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:53:44 -0500 
From: Jeffrey Roger Parenti <jp5d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NIN and interminable whinings on R.M.I.

lj-

yea!
thank you for your intelligent thoughts.
it's something this group needs.

i like nin, too, and i'm willing to admit
it.

        "i feel the urge to buy a suzanne vega album!..."
                -the dead milkmen

                    pern
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: NIN hidden tracks- names? (don't post them!)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:41:19 GMT

In article <9u9wHsmu-a@atlantis.psu.edu> lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette) writes:
>Here we go again!
>
>The tracks are "Suck" and "Physical (You're So)"
>

guru sez:
	oooops, sorry, I got an e-mail reply the day after I posted, sorry
	for not posting to say "don't post" but I'm doing it now...okay?
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Subject: Re: [Cabaret Voltaire] 70 Billion People/OuterLimits
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: rec.music.industrial, alt.rave
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 22:30:57 GMT

It's gotta be a mistake. (In that vein, I bought a used copy of the
PLanet Rock remix CD for $3 or 4  - evidently they didn't realize this
was priced at  $10 or 11 new).

About the CV sample - 

Is the Outer Limits episode titled "Demon  with the Glass Hand" - you
said that was the title of the Ellison story, and I want to know for
sure so I know what to look for in the video store. Thanks

Richard





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.
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From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Spoony G)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Sega Garden
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:08:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Nov5.155033.16839@riscsm.scripps.edu> cullen@scripps.edu (Miles Egan) writes:
>        Well, yesterday I heard it again, so I know it's not 
>just my poor tortured cortex.  Has anyone besides me on r.m.i 
>noticed that the background music for Sega's latest ads for 
>the Genesis is Naked City's Torture Garden?  At first I 
>thought it might just be a VERY similar riff, but at the end 
>of the commercial for Sonic 2 they've got Eye screaming like 
>an epileptic.  I want to know which marketing exec approved 
>this strategy and what I can do to congratulate him/her.

     Yeah, I noticed it on the Sega commercials and also on a Nike
commercial in recent weeks.  Being a big huge John Zorn fan, I jumped
up when I heard it, I'm surprised any ad exec. would even be aware
of Naked City!!! I saw them at the Annenberg (U. of Penna.) last
April, they were absolutely incredible.  Eye came out for the second
half, and all the people who were there for a pleasant night of jazz
ran out pretty quick! I liked it though. 

Spoony G

           
  
 
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From: lfiddick@nyx.cs.du.edu (larry fiddick)
Subject: Re: Upcoming show: Crash Worship/etc in S.F.
Keywords: crash worship concert
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:57:21 GMT


are crash worship as silly in concert as they sound on cd?
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Negativland in Madison
Date: 15 Nov 92 00:58:48 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona Physics Department

Is Negativland really playing in Madison?

I posted this before (I think) and got no response, but it is supposed to be  
tomorrow at a place called RR Station -- the thing is, RR Station doesn't know  
anything about it, and I don't think that they're even open on Sunday -- what's  
the deal?

I'd love to know absolutely as SOON as possible, because if I'm going to drive  
four hours to Madison, I need to know for sure that it is happening and that I  
can get in.

Thanks tons & bunches..

--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Subject: Re: Ministry discog......HELP
Followup-To: alt.flame
Summary: Alain Jourgensen is a dork, and I feel sorry for his daughter
Keywords: Ministry pretentious tough-guy dork geek drug addict bad disco music
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 05:53:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.223700.14959@rtsg.mot.com> houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes:
>Every Day Is Halloween (Wax)
>Just Like You (Wax) (or is that on the flip side of one of the others?)
>Halloween Remix (Wax)

        There are a number of entirely decent twelve-inch singles that no one
has mentioned so far, mostly from Alain Jourgensen's Heaven 17-wannabe period.
As far as I can tell, none of them are available on CD (except as noted
otherwise), and I wouldn't bet on them being available in the near future.

_I_Wanted_To_Tell_Her_

        An Arista release which contains an alternate recording of said track,
a dub mix thereof, and a tune called "A Walk in the Park".  Pretty good,
certainly desirable if you enjoyed _With_Sympathy_.


_Work_for_Love_

        Another Arista release which contains a 12" mix, dub mix, and 7" mix,
none of which are avaiable elsewhere.  Also pretty good, a must-have if you
enjoyed _With_Sympathy_.


_I'm_Falling_

        An earlier release of what has been repackaged and re-named
_Cold_Life_.  This contained "I'm Falling" on the A-side, "Cold Life" on the
B-side, and an untitled track on the B-side (given the name "Primental" on the
_Cold_Life_ re-release).  This single did not contain "Cold Life Dub".
Mediocre.


_Over_the_Shoulder_

        A 12" Sire single whose material, I believe, shows up in its entirety
on the CD re-issue of _Twitch_.  Contains "Over the Shoulder (12' Version)",
"Isle of Men [sp?]", and "Twitch (Version II)".  Except for the last track,
this single is, in my opinion, unimaginative, monotonous crap.  By the way,
those who are naive enough to use Mr. Jourgensen's employment of a faux British
accent on _With_Sympathy_ as ammunition for arguing that he was a "poseur"
should note that Mr. Industrial Bad-Boy Dickhead does it on "Over the Shoulder"
too.


_Stigmata_

        Contains "Stigmata (extended version)" and "Tonight We Murder".
Stigmata is arguably a rip-off of Einstuerzende Neubauten's "Yue-Gung (Fuetter
Mein Ego)", and is quite a weak song.  The B-side is worse.

        Any singles that came out after this one should be common knowledge.

        There may have been a twelve-inch single for "Revenge" too; I am not
sure.  Greg Earle would know -- and while you're at it, ask him what Alain
Jourgensen's semen tastes like.


-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
Tsongas in '96
-- 
John Davison
davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
Tsongas in '96
From: hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise)
Subject: Re: PSALM ^(!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:52:21 GMT

In <1992Nov20.204557.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>Anyone picked up this SPIN? It gives band of the year to Nirvana, and non pas
>to MINISTRY. what a tragedy.
>oh well..

Who cares. I wouldn't give shit to either.  

Oh yeah, try taking your hand off the shift key when you type numbers.
It's much easier to read that way.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: REVIEW: Current 93, "Thunder Perfect Mind"
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:19:06 GMT

[ First reaction: cool drawing of Tibet on the cover.       ]
[ Second reaction: Shit, that's a photo!  (Weird contrast.) ]

I had never heard Current 93 before buying "Thunder Perfect Mind".
My first reaction on hearing this album was, "what the hell is this?"
Not bad, just NOT what I expected.

The album is mostly acoustic guitar and voice, occasionally with some
effects thrown in, and other instruments.  Hardly what I would call
"industrial" sounding, but really excellent.  This is very powerful
stuff, industrial in feel if not in sound.

I listened to it loud, in headphones, from start to finish with no
interruptions, reading along the lyrics in the liner.  After awakening
from the trance that the record put me in, I felt as if I had been
somewhere else for the past several years.

You should buy this record (and its companion from NWW).

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
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From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: THAT NIN FELLA IS ALIVE/I HAVE PROOF
Keywords: TRENT RENZOR IS ALIVE/ I HAVE PROOF
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:45:28 GMT

A photo of him?  It's probably faked, because they want you to believe 
he is still alive so  they can make more money from his followers.
I think the guy's dead, probably his head grew so big that it exploded,
or maybe he was hit by a bus.
  Me-no-thinks one can accurately refer to Morrisey as a 'feeb' while
commending reznor...  Aren't they brothers/twins/same guy or something?

coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu
shadowshadowshadowWhy?

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: Borghesia's politics?
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:48:47 GMT

In a recent posting, someone said they objected to Borghesia's 
politics. Eh? They are anarchists? How can you not like anarchists!

:)

No seriously, they inspired lots of youths in Yugoslavia (when it
existed). They are leftists, but were active against the bastard commie
state, as far as I know.

Now, the band to object to is Laibach. Fuck heads. But I don't wanna
discuss that. (Actually, maybe the original poster meant he objected
to Laibach's politics, not Borghesia's. If so, disregard this wasted
band-width!)

	Techne
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Meat Beat in concert
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:27:43 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Coventry University

In article <Bxnvtu.3L@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>flynn@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (FLYNN  JEFFREY THOMAS) writes:
>
>>...by the way, has Orbital put out anything since the lime-green album
>>with Belfast, Satan, etc.?
>
>
>Orbital: Radiccio
>Internal: LIECD1 869869.2
>1   5   11:10 Halcyon
>2   5   06:25 The Naked and The Dead
>3   4   07:13 Sunday

guru sez:
	come, come, Pete, you're slacking....

	The lime-green job was just an EP with three tracks. 
	Since then there's been an album in a fetching shade of bright yellow,
	which went by the clever name of "Orbital", an EP called "Midnight/
	Choice" and a remix project called "Mutations" in which top dance 
	remixer type dudes tinkered with Orbital tracks.

	Plus the aforementioned Radiccio EP.
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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: pop-industrial versus true Industrial
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:16:50 GMT


 I want to know what the fuck Bryan Myers means by "androgen". I have seen
this in another posts as well. Do you mean androgyn? As in androgyny? Like
man/woman woman/man? Ambiguous gender? Make it clear. An androgen is a
masculine steroid hormone, e.g testosterone. Class dismissed...


St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
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          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Misquamicus)
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Culture
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:01:39 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <Bxt1qn.9Bu@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> rrkeuche@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Rainer Keuchel) writes:
>I recently bought "The worst of Monte Cazazza" where is mentioned
>the book Apocalypse Culture 2 on the sleeve.Can anyone tell me
>who else appears in this book,if it's woth buying it and where
>I can get it?  What about Apocalypse Culture 1?

The only other "industrial" writer in this book was Paul Lemmos, who
interviewed Peter Sotos, publisher of a rather nasty pornographic
magazine called "Pure".

The article by Cazazza was among the more boring in this book(IMHO)
which features articles on self-mutilation, conspiracy theories galore,
necrophillia, performance art, magick & lycanthropy among other things...


I recommend it myself...

-Misquamicus
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From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Subject: TechnoAnimal?
Summary: Is the TechnoAnimal album out yet?
Keywords: out yet?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:09:24 GMT

I heard some mention of JB's TechnoAnimal project. Has it been released?

Dave

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