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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:30:28 MEZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      this is what was already said and I could still secure
              Dec 24, 92 1:06 pm

From: "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:36:41 MEZ
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: CNN Germany

It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?

Wolfgang

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From: jam@cray.com (Jim Martin)
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:22:05 CST
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: CNN Germany

In article <m0n2kgr-0000MSC@mcshh.Hanse.DE> "Wolfgang R. Schulz"
 <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE> writes:
>It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
>lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
>next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
>for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?
>
>Wolfgang
>

Wolfgang
Is this CNN different than CNN International ? I was recently in
Hamburg and stayed at the Marriott on ABC Strasse and the hotel
had CNN International. I asked at the front desk for information
about their television service but no one knew if they had cable
or satellite. The picture quality was good. I would have loved to
have seen a European TVRO system. Maybe next time !!

Jim Martin  (jam@tngstar.cray.com) 45 lat. 90 long.  U.S.A.


From: "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:28:32 MEZ
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: CNN Germany

Jim Martin writes:
>
> In article <m0n2kgr-0000MSC@mcshh.Hanse.DE> "Wolfgang R. Schulz"
> <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE> writes:
> >It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
> >lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
> >next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
> >for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?
> >
> >Wolfgang
> >
>
> Wolfgang
> Is this CNN different than CNN International ? I was recently in
> Hamburg and stayed at the Marriott on ABC Strasse and the hotel
> had CNN International. I asked at the front desk for information
> about their television service but no one knew if they had cable
> or satellite. The picture quality was good. I would have loved to
> have seen a European TVRO system. Maybe next time !!
>
> Jim Martin  (jam@tngstar.cray.com) 45 lat. 90 long.  U.S.A.
>
Jim:
Yes, this is a completely different system. Maybe they even keep the
name n-tv rather than "CNN Germany". Most of all, it is in german
language, and the one you saw at the Marriott is CNN International
in English (available also partly on Spanish on a special audio track) [A [A
 [B [B
CNN International will certainly remain as it is. We do have access at
three different methods in Hamburg:
1. Ku band Intelsat 27.5 deg west
2. Ku band Astra 19 deg. east (double hop from above)
3. By cable, now fed from Astra with occasional local commercials
in German (like Berlitz Language School).
N-TV from Berlin is on Kopernikus Satellite, 12 GHz range and on most
cable systems. It will probably only benefit largly from the newsfeeds
which CNN gets, and then be translated. We'll see.
Wolfgang


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From: cmylod@nl.oracle.com (Colum Mylod)
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:05:02 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: CNN Germany

In article <m0n2kgr-0000MSC@mcshh.Hanse.DE>, wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE (Wolfgang R.
 Schulz) writes:
|> It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
|> lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
|> next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
|> for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?

32 is showing a circular colour bar logo (needs to be seen to be believed)
with the name "DOCUMANIA" in the lower part of the screen. On 30 is its
companion station "CINEMANIA" imposed on a test card which recreates itself
every 10 seconds. Both services have a count 1-10 in 4 circles distributed
near the corners. Accompanying sound is a sort of rock muzak. This started
this weekend. These are listed on the Info screen (transp. 29) as run
by a Spanish company, service begins 1 Jan 1993. Isn't n-tv rumoured
for the 1C, launch April 1993.

From: "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:29:31 MEZ
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: CNN Germany

Colum Mylod writes:
>
> by a Spanish company, service begins 1 Jan 1993. Isn't n-tv rumoured
> for the 1C, launch April 1993.
>
That was indeed so, until last week CNN announced that they are holding
a reservation for a transponder on 1B still for their German output.
That would be n-tv now, so they said it will "show up on ASTRA in only
a few days". That certainly could not be 1C. Well, we'll see. Certainly
the SES would not keep the transponderlist forever on one channel, if they
could rent it...
Wolfgang


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From: alberter@untadi.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:59:34 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: CNN Germany & new on ASTRA


In article <m0n2kgr-0000MSC@mcshh.Hanse.DE>,         "Wolfgang R. Schulz"
 <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE> writes:

|>It's not just a rumor anymore: CNN comes to Germany. They join the
|>lately founded channel 'n-tv' [D and will put it on Astra 1B "within the
|>next few days". Maybe on transponder 32, where we do see color bars
|>for several months already? Maybe Bernard Shaw has to learn German now?
|>

32 certainly not - it's now reserved by a Spanish TV company, together
with transponder 30: One is called CINEMANIA and obviously should bring movies
in Spanish language, the other is DOCUMANIA and could send reports on nature,
science, economics, etc.
The only free tp on 1B now is 29, - currently used for the ASTRA info which
may disappear.

More rumors: Lifestyle (tp 5, ASTRA 1A) negotiates with RTL-2, the new German
general entertainment channel about selling them their transponder. RTL-2 got
its licence to broadcast and they'll be starting mid-January 1993.

When ASTRA 1C will be powered in June/July 1993, two more Spanish channels
will appear. Also, DISCOVERY and BRAVO are said to move from Intelsat to
ASTRA 1C then.

SAT.1 probably goes back to Eutelsat - if they give up their tp on ASTRA or if
they broadcast from both birds is not confirmed yet.

(all news are taken from SATELLITE TV EUROPE, January-Edition)

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merry xmas and a wacky new year to all you bird-watchers,
Ludwig

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From: "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:09:32 MEZ
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: n-tv (CNN Germany)

Well, as I guessed only two days ago, n-tv, the german CNN affiliate,
IS NOW BROADCASTING FROM ASTRA 1B, transponder 29. This happens to be
the horizontal neighbour of CNN International on transponder 28.

Strange is, they do not use the main wideband audio carrier 6.50 MHz,
as everybody else does, but only 7.02 and 7.20 stereo/Wegener Panda
narrow subcarriers.

We lost the Astra Information Display, but it would happen one day
anyway...

Wolfgang

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