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From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,news.groups
Subject: Re: proposal to rename comp.sys.novell
Date: 2 Jan 1993 16:36:39 -0500
Organization: The Programmers' Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
NNTP-Posting-Host: mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us

In article <1993Jan2.141806.20728@yang.earlham.edu> andrewh@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>Now that Novell will own Unix SysV, it might be time to change the name of
>comp.sys.novell. Here's what I propose:
>
>REPLACE comp.sys.novell  WITH   comp.sys.netware

Better yet, rename comp.sys.novell to comp.os.netware.  It seems to
fit in comp.os better than comp.sys, since Netware is a piece of
software, not a piece of hardware.

-- 
Marc Unangst, N8VRH         | "Of course, in order to understand this you
mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   |  have to remember that the nucleus of the atom
                            |  is squishy."
                            |    -W. Scheider, from a Physics lecture
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Mac Login Security
Keywords: Macintosh
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:24:41 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Dec23.193745.27446@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> jcenter@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Center) writes:
>With all the flurry of software upgrades for Netware security on DOS, Windows 
>and OS/2, is anything planned for the Macintosh?  I'm using NW4Mac 3.011, and
>it would be nice to have better support for security here.  I would like to
>see automatic use of netware encryption on the Mac client, at a minimum. Also,
>a login scripting facility, with a command similar to MAP ROOT.  I have a need
>to make certain software believe it has write-access to the root directory of a
>volume.  Some Macintosh software is just as difficult to use on a network as
>PC software.
>
>John Center
>
Hi,

Pardon my ignorance, but I am not completely sure what you mean by "automatic 
use of encryption."  Do you mean the dialogue box asking for the encryption
method is too cumbersome?  Or do you mean issuing the LOAD AFP ENCRYPT is too
difficult?  Please respond to this post.  It sounds like you have some fairly
specific requests (in addition to the write-access functionality), but I am
not sure what they are.

Let me know...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy)
Subject: Re: ODI depca??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:47:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.122150.27128@dcatlas.dot.gov>, drewo@dcatlas.dot.gov (Andrew R. Orndorff) writes...
%     Any information at all on whether the ODI driver for the DEPCA has passed 
%certification and is available to the world??

Yes.  I just downloaded it from Compu$erve last week.  It was in the DECPCI
forum.  I think it was called ETHWRK.ZIP and had the latest ODI, NDIS and
DLL drivers.  I'm using the ODI driver right now with a DEPCA LC/DE100 and
it's working fine.
===============================================================================
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Allied-Signal Aerospace - BFEC    Internet#1 - dweissman@dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov
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Columbia, Maryland 21045-1897     Telenet/SPRINTnet's X.400 -
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From: dak@boomerang.com (David A. Kearney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: attach command wont take password.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 07:40:37 PST
Organization: Boomerang Information Services
Reply-To: dak@boomerang.com (David A. Kearney)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2

Greetings,

I have a book that says the 3.11 "attach" command should allow a password
in the form :

%attach <server>/<login>;<password>

But when I try to use it this way it still asks for a password.  Is
the book wrong or has something changed since the book?  More importantly,
is there a way to attach a server specifying the password for automatic
attaching?

Thanx for your help

Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
From: ashah@eos.ncsu.edu (AJAY  SHAH)
Subject: Re: NOT-LOGGED-IN   - Getting rid of.
Keywords: Connections Zapping not-logged-in
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:47:33 GMT


I also request NOVELL to release the NLM mentioned
for the subject of this posting.

Thanx.
Ajay.
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: VREPAIR, errors.. clues?
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:52:39 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Dec23.215332.1@tango.cchs.su.oz.au> brennan@tango.cchs.su.oz.au (Luke Brennan) writes:
>	G'day!
>
>	When I DOWN the server (486dx 3.11), if I do a VREPAIR on SYS
>	I *always* get 1000 or more errors.. 
>
>	Oh, and I've also found that I MUST run VREPAIR *again* if I
>	want it to 'fix' the OS/2 stuff and NFS.. sure makes life slow...
>	(I've got MAC, OS2 and NFS loaded) HD is 1Gb, so the passes add
>	up to 1/2 hour or so each time..
>
>	None of the 'errors' are anything major - but they're always
>	there.. I usually run VREPAIR every oh, 2-3 months..
>
>	Even I *immediately* reboot after all the passes, I get warnings
>	about 2 or 3 files being wrong length or somesuch..
>
>	Does this ring any bells with anyone? Software? Hardware? ME? :-}
>
>	Yes, it's vague - but the box is now sealed 'till 5th January,
>	so I can't go get the exact messages..
>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>+ Luke Brennan                             e-mail:      brennan@cchs.su.oz.AU +
>+ EDP Unit, S209                          brennan%cchs.su.oz.au@cunyvm.BITNET +
>+ Cumberland College of Health Sciences,                              ,-_|\   +
>+ The University of Sydney                  voice: +61 2 646 6402    /     \  +
>+ East Street, Lidcombe, NSW 2141             fax: +61 2 646 4853    \_,-._*  +
>+ AUSTRALIA                                                               v   +
>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+


Hi,

Yes, your description is rather vague.  A PERFECTLY functioning server platform
should not routinly encounter volume errors.  I suggest that you get the error
messages (after 1-5-93, of course) and let us know what they are.  We may be
able to better determine what has gone wrong with that information at hand.

Your question about why you need to run VREPAIR multiple times is a good one.  I
have noticed the need for this too, but cannot understand why one has to do this
.  But this "repeat" process is not needed just for volumes that support multipl
e name spaces.  Even volumes with only DOS name space support often require
multiple VREPAIR "passes."  

Don P., do you understand why this is ("...be sure to run VREPAIR until you find
zero errors, then run it once more to verify there were no errors left...")?

I'll be looking for the responses...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek,Ca.
From: vermeulen@rulwinw.LeidenUniv.nl (Hans Vermeulen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: API for Encrypted Passwords?
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:55:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Leiden

In article <1hoolhINNi4a@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos) writes:
>From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
>Subject: API for Encrypted Passwords?
>Date: 29 Dec 92 05:45:21 GMT

>Does anyone know how to set up the call for a "Verify Bindery Object Password"
>using ENCRYPTED passwords.  I have the Netware Programmers Guide and the call
>listed does not seem to support encrypted passwords.  My server keeps
>squawking back a message about an attempt to use un-encrypted passwords.  Any
>info would be appreciated.  Also on any of the other calls dealing with
>passwords (i.e. Set Bindery Object Password, Change, Login...).

>Thanks,
>-- 
>John Villalovos
>Certified Netware Engineer
>villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
>(503) 753-7883

You cannot implement these calls without additional software. There are 2 
solutions. You can use the Netware C-Interface for DOS (includes library 
functions for all the password calls, only .LIB files). Or you can link 
some object code containing the password calls with your own code. This
object code can be obtained from Novell, or I can send it to you if you
like. We got it from Novell.
BTW, what kind of software are you writing using these calls? We made
some tools to create/delete/update groups of students on our Novell
servers.
I hope this helps,

Hans Vermeulen
Dept. Of Computer Science
Leiden University
(writers of hack.exe).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Thomas P. Morris <tmorris@sph.unc.edu>
Subject: Server Fault Tolerant H/W sources sought
Organization: UNC School of Public Health, CAIS
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:29:58 GMT

The Division of Computing and Information Services (CAIS) at the School
of Public Health wishes to increase the reliability and availability of
the SPH PC/Macintosh Network (based on a NetWare 3.11 server).  Our
current server configuration leaves =much= to be desired in terms of
configuration for fault tolerance and ability for us
to "fail over" to another CPU box. As a result, we are looking into
various hardware
and software options to increase our server reliability and availability.
 

The current file server has two internal Seagate ST2383N 330Mb SCSI
drives, non-mirrored, non-duplexed, attached to an Adaptec AHA1542B
controller.  We use an ADIC Data8000 DAT drive with DDS compression and
ARCserve V4.0 for server backup.

This server serves ~90 DOS & Windows clients, 60-70 simultaneously
attached including 6-7 HP printers with JetDirect print server cards. We
have NW4MAC support loaded and will shortly attach ~30 Mac clients and 
3-4 AppleTalked LaserWriters. Longer term, we expect to have > 200 total
client machines in the next 6-12 months, and up to 300 or more client
machines beyond the next 12 months, and up to 30 more printserver-style
queues.  In terms of storage needs,  I would expect to need to upgrade to
~1.5Gb storage in the next year (not including mirror or duplex drives),
with up to 3Gb needed in the longer term.

Options we are looking at (not necessarily in any particular order):

   - duplexing  (would need additional controller(s) and drives)
   - rehosting all disk drives in external cabinets
   - keeping a "host spare" CPU with SCSI controllers for "quick"
fail-over
   - "upgrading" to some form of EISA-bus machine with full 32-bit
bus-mastering
     NICs and SCSI controllers
   - some form of RAID hardware (Raidion from Micropolis,  CORE Int'l
MicroArrays,
      or MicroNet Spanned disk systems, for example)
   - multiple servers with some sort of NetWare  SFT III software.  
   - some sort of "superserver" hardware with some mix of all of the above

So. What am I looking for? 
   - Hardware recommendations
   - Vendor recommendations
   - Prices
   - End-user (system manager) experiences with such systems

Tom Morris
UNC School of Public Health, CAIS
tmorris@sph.unc.edu
tom@sphvax.sph.unc.edu
tom@uncsphvx.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Thomas P. Morris <tmorris@sph.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Looking for License Metering recomendations
Organization: UNC School of Public Health, CAIS
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:32:47 GMT

In article <15263.2b40851d@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> ,
glazer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>We are looking for some recomendations for software metering (license
metering)
>for Novell with Windows apps as well as dos apps.  Got any?

We've been using SiteLock 3.20 for DOS and Windows apps for about
9 months now, mostly with success.  We ran into some problems with
metering of -some- Windows-based software (mostly WordPerfect for
Windows 2.0 and when we had both Word for Windows 1.2 and 2.0 being
metered at the same time),  but have resolved those problems. 

SiteLock requires a small TSR to be loaded on each machine, and another
application to be autoloaded from your Win.Ini for windows use.

Version 4.0 of SiteLock is supposed to be out now; we've ordered our upgrade.
This new version is supposed to include some useful new features, possibly
removing the requirement for the TSRs.   From the product literature, V4.0
apparently also has the ability to "wrap" the metered executables (sort
of 
like KeyServer  for the Mac?) so that apps cannot be run if they are not on 
the network. 

SiteLock is from BrightWork Development, 800 552 0622

Tom Morris
UNC School of Public Health
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: hibanez@wam.umd.edu (guzman)
Subject: OS/2 1.30.2 Netware Requester
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:17:14 GMT

hello...

	Is there an ftp site somewhere to get the 1.30.2 version of
OS/2 1.30.2 Netware Requester?  Does Novell have a BBS?  Please
respond directly to me at : hibanez@wam.umd.edu


thanks.

Larry

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From: fchen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (FuGwo Chen)
Subject: CD-ROM Drive on Novell System
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:23:31 GMT

-- 
Fu-Gwo Chen                     | The old believe everything;                |
Northwestern University -KGSM   | the middle-age suspect everything;         |
708-491-2870                    | the young know everything.                 |
fu-gwo@nwu.edu                  |     -- from fortune cookie                 |
From: ppollet@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr (Patrick POLLET)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: ODIPKT Where ???
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:53:21 GMT
Organization: INSA  CENTRE INFORMATIQUE DU 1er CYCLE
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.214.232.2

I know its is a FAQ. And I red in the FAQ a part of the answer but...

We have 12 AT with old 3C501 cards that are linked to a netware server 3.11
and 12 AT with more recent SMCPLUS cards.

We succesfully got the 12 recent machines to runs TCPIP using the 
8003PKDR packet driver provided by SMC. But No way with the old 3C501 cards.
 
With these cards we had to use ODI to connect to the Network.
something like:
   LSL
   3C501
   IPXODI
   NETX

  We have tried the packet driver 3C501 supplied in the Clackson collection.
Crash...

  It is says in the FAQ that we should use ODIPKT and an appropriate 
  NET.CFG file . 

  O.K. But here do you get that ODIPKT driver. I did not find it
in my Novell's Disks, nor in the Clarkson collection ??? 

  If somebody with the same configuration could help me. Even with 
a copy of its NET.CFG I shall be delighted...

By the time, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL 
ppollet@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr (Patrick POLLET)
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From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell/Unix Mail
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:54:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.C04s6o.46A
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

peter@ephsa.UUCP (Peter Whitman) writes:
>>> I am in the process of bringing up a large Novell network with ties
>>> to Unix 

gregb@netlink.cts.com (Greg Beron) writes:
>>I don't know about CC:Mail, but NoteWorks has an optional interface to 
>>Unix sytems.  It's a great mail package all by itself, too.  It's the 
>>only TSR pop-up mail package I could get to work with Desqview and all of 
>>our apps.

ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown) writes:
>What about the combination of Pegasus Mail and the Charon Gateway?  Both
>are cheap (read free - a reasonable fee is required for Pegasus
>Documentatino kit).

When I left my previous employer, I swore I'd do my level best to come up
with a better email solution than cc:Mail.  Jupiter (my new company) has
a similar LAN but much smaller:  a mix of Novell/DOS, Macintosh, and UNIX
systems.  It had no email in place.  Here's my solution:

	- elm 2.4
	- Pegasus 2.3.4
	- IDA sendmail 5.65c
	- Charon 4.0
	- Trumpet 1.05g
	- Cnews
	- trn

The only item in the above list which carries any cost is Trumpet (shareware
as opposed to freeware).  Why am I posting this?

BECAUSE THIS SOLUTION IS BETTER!

Compared to the headaches involved with commercial products like cc:Mail,
running a mixed network like this has been a breeze using Internet freeware.
The support is better, updates are easier to get, system administration is
far friendlier, and the software is superior and more reliable.  Leave
the cost out of it!  Do the right thing, I say.  One really nice thing
about the above email solution is that it handles not only email, but
printer queue redirection:  Charon maps Berkeley-style UNIX printing into
Novell queues; I killed about three or four interoperability problems with
one stone.  Try to find that in a commercial email product!

The only thing I'll grant the commercial email vendors (to date) is
this:  they usually have better printed documentation.  But the folks
at Software Tool & Die made a major contribution this year by writing
a very nice manual for C-news, and besides, printed manuals are useful
mainly in the first week of using a package.

-rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: wardt@a.cs.okstate.edu (WARD TED LEE)
Subject: problems using sitelock with netware 2.15
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:50:51 GMT


I can't remember if I already posted this, so here goes:

When we try to use Sitelock v 3.1 with windows 3.x and netware 2.15, then
somethings going to crash, anybody have any clue?

Thanks, Ted Ward.
From: carlb@tamsun.tamu.edu (Carl A. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: "Lost Space" on a 486/SCSI server (3.11)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 22:20:07 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

I'm having a problem with my NetWare 3.11 server (486/EISA/16Meg/SCSI).
The problem is that occasionally it will "lose" space, as in when you 
delete something (especially directories), it will not free up the      
space that the directory used, although it no longer exists.  I think
I have it tracked down to a PC magazine utility called NUKE.COM that
a someone was using (although I could be wrong).

I've run VRepair, and it didn't report any errors.  Here is the 
output of chkvol and chkdir:

[ F:\>chkdir
[ Directory Space Limitation Information For:
[ RMF\SYS:
[ 
[     Maximum        In Use     Available
[     632,136 K     618,512 K      13,616 K   Volume Size
[                   559,280 K      13,616 K   \
[ F:\>chkvol
[ Statistics for fixed volume RMF/SYS:
[ 
[ Total volume space:                          632,136  K Bytes
[ Space used by files:                         618,512  K Bytes
[ Space in use by deleted files:                   212  K Bytes
[ Space available from deleted files:              204  K Bytes
[ Space remaining on volume:                    13,616  K Bytes
[ Space available to SUPERVISOR:                13,616  K Bytes

Does anyone have an idea what I can do about this (To free up
the extra 60Meg)? 

Thanks in advance.

-Carl Brown
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From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Searching documwnts for key words
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:55:22 ECT
Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria

jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark) writes:

> on a LAN, looking for key words.  Suppose users need to find
> all docs that contained the words 'NOVELL NETWARE'.  I could 
> enter it in and let the software go looking.  It would be ideal
> to be able to setup predefined paths, etc.

Two products spring to mind: high end, expensive TOPIC or networkable
DOS-based ISYS.  Sorry, don't know vendor addresses.

--
paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Home Office in Vienna, Austria
From: petej@itcode.Eng.Sun.COM (Pete Jolly[CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Help With 3.11 Installation
Date: 24 Dec 1992 00:27:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: itcode
Keywords: netware novell 3.11 install

I am having several problems upgrading an ELS v2.0a Netware system
to 3.11.  The network which works fine with v2.0a consists
of a 486 server (4mbRAM, 150MBHDD), several 286 diskless
workstation, and one diskfull workstation.  I am trying to upgrade all 
of the systems but the 486 server is the real problem.

First of all, the upgrade procedure does not work with our Mountain
tape drive unit.  When I run UPGRADE from one of the workstations (this
one does have a local hard disk), the procedure hangs when it trys 
to start the backup to tape.  I have to reboot that workstation
to bring it back.  I had to abort the upgrade procedure and just 
back things up using the mountain software which works fine in the
same configuration over the network.

Secondly, the 486 server will not boot DOS from a newly installed 
340MB Maxtor IDE drive that was just installed.  During the boot
process, if there is no floppy available, I get a "Missing Operating
System" error message. If I boot from floppy, I have no problems
using the hard disk.  Netware 3.11 builds just fine on the hard disk.
The previous installer does have a "Fourth Dimension Quick Boot
Rom Rev. 5.32" on the ethernet card and since I am getting a 4th 
Dimension banner right before the failure to boot error, I attributed
the problem to that card.  Anyone know what this boot prom does (or
doesn't do)?

Lastly, once the 486 system was built, I could not recognize any workstations
on the net.  The workstations "Fail To Find Server" .  I may have
the network set up wrong (network numbers etc.) but so far I haven't
seen anything obvious.  I put the old ELS disk back in and things still
work so I know the physical layer (ie. cables, cards, hardware) works at
least under that older version.

Anyone out there seen upwards compatibility problems with 16bit 
ethernet cards?  Maybe I am having conflict problems with the new
IDE controller and the ethernet card in the server.  The drivers 
(ISADIS and NE2000.LAN) load with no problems though.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Pete J.
Intellicode Software Co.
San Jose, Ca.

PS:

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