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From: ganoe@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Craig Ganoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: MPEG, Photo CD (was: CDTV is dead)
Keywords: Photo-CD
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:22:11 GMT
Organization: GE M&DSO - VF

In article <1992Aug20.164352.20154@knight.vf.ge.com>, ganoe@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Ganoe Craig) writes:
> In article <kdarling.713335823@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu>, kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:
> > philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
> > > es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.eda (Ethan Solomita) writes:  
> > > [...]  PhotoCD is an emerging thing.  Geez, do you want all things before
> > > they are even accessible?   Try naming a few PhotoCD players that are
> > > shipping? And don't give me the Photo-CD ready nonsense.
> > 
> > Well, CD-I players (which are also Photo CD players by definition, since
> > all Photo CDs include CD-I player code) have been shipping for a long time.
> >
> Look in VIDEO magazine again. there's a joint ad in there with Philips and some
> other companies that implies that the current CD-I 910 model does not support
> Photo-CD, but that a new model coming out in a month will. I had to read this
> twice, I'd swear the 910 CD-I's say right on their chassis Photo-CD, but that's
> what the ad said. I'll get a hold of the issue and quote it when I get the chance.
> 
Well, it looks like I made an error here. I hope I didn't confuse too many people
with my other post. 

In one VIDEO magazine, they reviewed the Summer CES where they said that Kodak
would release Photo-CD players this month (and apparently they're shipping now).
And Philips was going to follow with Photo-CD players of its own. So when I read
this, I'm thinking "but doesn't Philips already have a Photo-CD player".

The other VIDEO magazine had the CD-I ad from Philips which talked about the 
CDI-910 and then mentioned its new "CDF-200 Photo-CD" player which I took
for a CD-I Photo-CD player. Apparently this is a Photo-CD (not CD-I) player like
the Kodak ones, but it was kind of dumb to mention it in an ad that was 
about CD-I.

Sorry again if I confused anyone.

Anyone know what the price on these Photo-CD players is going to be? Since these
players will have to fit between prices for CD and CD-I players, they're going 
to hold CD-I prices up (and with that, probably CDTV too). Also, what's the 
resolution of a picture on a Photo-CD?

> > regards - kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
> 
> Craig
Craig (me again)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: Amiga file system
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 06:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.030517.14238@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>: Yes; but version 39 will improve the speed of directories dramatically.
>
>Actually, I believe that the "speed improvement" of directories came
>with a rework of asl.library in the vapor 2.1, or v38.

Or from improvements in asl.library *and* in FastFileSystem maybe...

>Greg

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  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths
From: scottw@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Scott Weintraub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pournelle (and Byte) strikes again!
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:08:51 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

I thought the article was fairly accurate.  Here we have a writer who seems
to know a decent amount about the Amiga trying to explain it to a bunch
of IBM/Mac people.  Half of Byte's readers haven't even heard of the Amiga!

The major regret I have is that he didn't mention things like Pagestream-
Hotlinks, how easy and wicked fast AmigaDOS is, the vast array of powerful
and inexpensive graphics/video software there is, and more.  How about the
fact that the Amiga can go to an NTSC composite display more efficiently
and cheaper than any PC.  We've also got things like the Toaster.  MS-DOS

and Mac users We've got an environment that's easy to program for and a
home computer that multitasks better than any other home computer in history.

True, the Amiga is a hobbyist's machine, but it has power that will continue
to be unrecognized.  One or two good articles in magazines like Byte can go
a long way.  I just wish the Amiga would get the attention it deserves.
A
workstation!  
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From: mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: a3000-040 hiya dave!
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:12:31 GMT
Reply-To: mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer, ECA008)
Distribution: comp
Organization: PS -> POWERSystems

In article <34405@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.1076.26308@dosgate> "thomas napier" <thomas.napier@canrem.com> writes:

>>    Thomas Napier
>
>Any relation to Jack?

Ohhhh... I see... Dave is a BATMAN fan :-)

Or Dave feels somtimes like Jack Napier alias The JOKER!!!

Dave Haynie... the crazy genius how bring us the A3000... ;-) 

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Food for thought
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:01:39 GMT
Organization: Amiga makes it possible
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

FOr those of us who wishes some other REAL company - a good company - would
buy CBM...  First, why buy CBM?  Their technology isn't good enough to warrant
the investment.  The sales are putrid and wouldn't warrant the investment, either.
Second - if I were a company that had my sights set on buying CBM, I'd wait until
Jan/Feb when CBM stock will be selling at $2 per share.  The cost of buying CBM
at that price would be much cheaper.

--
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From: dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson )
Subject: Re: CBM, This is not STUPID this is a PROPOSITION
Originator: dcr3567@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:27:52 GMT

>>was little or no risk to Microsoft. A port of one of our larger
>>hard disk...
>>
>>Ian.
>
>MSword is a nice program, but I would hardly ask any big software house to waste
>their time in porting another MickeySoft program to the Amiga. 
>I can survive without word. If I need it, I'll get AMAX II and get the 
>MAC version, since it probably better done than the Windows version. 
>
  I'm sorry this is x-posted to Advocacy, but such is life....       

I MUST concur here.  I'm a 5th year engineering student, and for the last three
months have LIVED Microsoft Word 5.0 & Canvas 2.1 & Cricket Graph & Excel 2.2
and I must say that it has made my life MUCH easier.  I could NOT have done
as well on my countless lab reports without those 4.  

Before any flames, YES I tried another combination: Pagestream, WordPerfect,
looked into ProCalc, and a few graphing packages.  BUT! None of them allowed
the pure EASE OF USE that the Mac solution offered!      

BOOM! I enter MS Word, bang out a title page and summary.  Needs a diagram.
BOOM! Enter Canvas, <click> <Click> Cut, Copy, Enter Word (having 6 megs 
and an '030 is a DEFINATE plus, since Word, Sys 7.0 are both slow and 
memory hogs).  BOOM! Paste picture. Page break. Table of results. Boom! 
EXCEL. Enter, formulate, calculate. BOOM! Word again, paste Special  
Spreadsheet. Border. Need an analysis graph?  Cricket graph, enter, enter
graph, plot.
                     Print. Beautiful.
                     9.8 grade, +.1 for presentation. (Really!)
Granted, life isn't perfect.  Cricket graph can't handle Excel spreadsheets
(Not that I figured out..) and Word can't handle CG spreadsheets.  BUT,
it can get done, and I'm sure that the new versions do it.  All but word
is vintage ** 1989 **!  Three year old software. (Word has a $79 deal for
students, so I splurged.  Much worth it.)

I'm graduating in 9 months.  I want a new computer then.  My 2000 is 
getting ancient.  I want it to be a new Amiga (So long as it still runs
A-Max! :-).  For now though, the future appears to be in the form of a 
PowerBook 170.  Has anyone seen that thing? The screen is incredible!

-Dan


-- 
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From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: MPEG, Photo CD (was: CDTV is dead)
Keywords: Photo-CD
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:20:29 GMT

ganoe@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Craig Ganoe) writes:
>Anyone know what the price on these Photo-CD players is going to be?

The Kodak PCD-270 is MSRP $400.  Its features include auto-sequencing
at intervals, and storing many of your favorite selections/skips (in
2K of memory... so probably divide 16K bits by 100 pictures/disc to
figure out about how many yes/no selections it can hold).

The Kodak PCD-870 I believe will be MSRP ~$575 or so.  It includes zoom
features, more selection memory (8K), and has a "full view" feature
to compensate for displaying an entire 35mm image on the TV screen.
(A friend who has one says his kids love to crop out their siblings
and set up the favorite selection memory to zoom in on themselves :-)

The Kodak PCD-5870 will be available later this year.  It has a five-disc
carousel and onscreen display of the image number.  Price?  Dunno. ~$800?

I hadn't heard about the Philips CDF-200 yet, and have no data on it.

>Since these players will have to fit between prices for CD and CD-I players,
>they're going to hold CD-I prices up (and with that, probably CDTV too).

Umm.  I'd think they'll help bring down CD-I prices, as consumer demand
for Photo CD could only help out there.  Philips' MSRP for their CDI-910
player has just been dropped to $699.  Street prices for both CD-I and
plain Photo CD players should quickly become ~25% less and drop from there.

Btw, I believe the Kodak players simply use an ASIC instead of a cpu/etc.
Early next year Kodak says that you'll also be able to have custom audio,
text and computer graphics added to the disc (for such things as making
a custom sales or demo disc).

>Also, what's the resolution of a picture on a Photo-CD?

On disc, the pictures are stored as 192x128 (thumbnail), 384x256 (preview),
768x512 (used for TV display), 1536x1024, (HDTV) and 3072x2048... all at
24-bits per pixel.

best - kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Crime (Re: Perot ?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:02:11 GMT

In article <92231.023450MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.223817.17281@usl.edu>, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel
>A) says:
>>I'd rather an alternative to the death penalty...
>
>I look at things and see a perfect alternative to the death penalty --
>life imprisonment with absolutely no possibility of parole. It's just as
>nasty if not nastier (you want to live your life out in a prison cell?) it's
>cheaper than our current death penalty system, it keeps the criminals
>off the streets for good just like the death penalty does, but most important
>of all, if it turns out that the suspect was innocent after all, they can
>be freed from jail! If the unfortunate person has been executed, on the
>other hand, making it up to them is rather more difficult.
>
>So how's this sound? You asked for an alternative...

The implementation of the death penalty is not the same thing as the principle
of the death penalty.  Life in prision w/o parole *would* be the next best thing
, but I don't think it would have the same effect as outright DYING.
For example, some people whine about nuclear power being wasteful, cost
way to much.  I'd argue that those issues would not exist if it were not
for the 'whiners'.  See?  So what I am saying is the the death penalty
would have 'balls' if it was enforced...just like any other broken law/
punsihment situation.

>[Your blood pressure just went up.]       Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
>       DISCLAIMER: If it ain't money, Penn State doesn't care about it.
>   "Ladies and gentlemen, I've suffered for my music! Now it's your turn!"


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From: pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli)
Subject: Re: Falcon030 is there ..
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:21:33 GMT

In article <338@mbunix.adsp.sub.org> mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer) writes:
>
>... Amigas have a higer fun-factor than any ATARIs...
>
   And, from what I've seen, more woofing asshole users per computer sold
than any other manufacturer.

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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Amiga 600 vs. Falcon 030 
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:56:19 GMT

First, before you take either the A600 or Falcon at listed price... you have
to add the cost of a monitor and hard disk... and then look at the software
base.  The proportionate differences drop.

Thom

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:40:56 GMT

>> I must say that I concur with Gregory on his assesment of the Falcon. I
>> don't think that the A4000 has anything to worry about.
>
>Do you think the Falcon is supposed to compete with the A4000?  Couldn't you
>buy 2-3 Falcons for the price of a 4000?

	You may be able to get 6 or more of them, if the 040 A3000T is any 
    indication of what Commodore is going to charge for the A4000. 

							G.Greene


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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:19:57 GMT
X-Posted-From: connection.prospect.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes:
>
>Have you ever considered that he might have his machine configured wrong?  
>Sometimes that can make ALL the difference.  I too have used Windows and
>found it very acceptable.  However, the multitasking is in NO WAY as smooth
>and refined as in AmigaDOS. V2.04.
>

We were talking about OS/2, not Windows.

>
>The comparison here is invalid.  UNIX is a MUCH larger system than OS/2.  It
>has been around for many MANY years.  Also, it was originally designed for
>multi-user mainframe/minicomputers so it's bound to be big.
>

Actually, UNIX was designed to be a small single-user system.  Read the
history books.

>
>As far as    
>functionality goes OS/2 had to maintain compatibility with DOS and WINDOWS in
>OS/2.  Since OS/2 is carrying all of this extra weight to support previous 
>standards it has to have a computer with alot of memory and alot of speed.
>

That's exactly what I said.  One correction, though -- you don't *have* to
install the DOS/Windows stuff with OS/2.  IMHO, if you install only the
OS/2 parts of OS/2, it's wonderfully compact compared to other OS's with
similar functionality (UNIX+X).

>
>Don't worry the Amiga has plenty of stuff.  And I'm sure it's more than you
>you shake you entire PS/2 at.
>

That's not too impressive -- have you ever tried to shake a PS/2? :-)

>
>Gregory John Casamento  --  gcasa@wam.umd.edu
>
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From: rbabel@babylon.rmt.sub.org (Ralph Babel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 11 Aug 1992 08:16:15 +0200
Reply-To: cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!cbmehq!babylon!rbabel (Ralph Babel)

Andy Finkel wrote in <1138@cbmehq.esco.so.commodore.com>:

> As I've posted to Marc many times before, when he makes up
> lies, he loses credibility.  It would be better if he were
> to stick to the truth.  When he posts an article where he
> makes a typical gloom and doom posting, then supports it
> with 'facts' that turn out to be made up...it doesn't help
> his reputation for honesty.

"Why let 'em upset us?
 Caiaphas, let him be!
 All those imbeciles will see,
 He really doesn't matter."

Ralph
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From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:40:51 GMT

In article <l8j32qINNqqd@pollux.usc.edu> addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
>In <1992Aug12.193043.14072@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>>Here we go again.  DIG.  Resource tracking.  A graphics system that supports
>>splines, paths, non-rectangular clipping, 2-D transformations, Adobe scalable
>>fonts, etc.
>
>This sounds like PostScript.
>
>>Multithreading.  Named pipes.  Queues.
>
>Wasn't the request for features that weren't in AmigaDOS?
Perhaps he meant unnamed pipes or pipe support from the shell.  I gave
him the benefit of the doubt on that one given a vanilla 2.04 system as
the base.
>
>
>--Richard
>


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From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Re: Cheer Up
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:54:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201941.848@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu
(Marc N Barrett) writes:

>...and SimEarth isn't even available for the Amiga as far as I know.

Bzzt. It is available, and having had the opportunity to compare the Amiga
version to the PC edition, I would say that it is graphically superior and
more fully integrates itself with the native OS. Boredom is a state of
mind.

[ad nauseum]

Mark

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Perot ?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:07:34 GMT

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
: Great.
: 
: Suppose you were able to somehow MURDER IN COLD CRUEL BLOOD Adolph Hitler,
: perhaps during his stint in WWI, perhaps while he was in prison, whatever..
: would you consider that justified?  MURDER the man in cold blood, and
: preventing German nationalism becoming National Socialist Fascism? and

If I were to have killed hitler, I would be a murderer.  I don't care
WHAT he's done.  Any man has the right to his basic human rights.  And
murder is wrong, no matter who the subject is or who's doing the
killing.

It's a bit absolutist for some.

: perhaps save million upon MILLIONS of other people's lives? is this at least
: an appropriate circumstance? is it too late to get on the Presidential
: ballot? :)

It's an appropriate circumstance, yes.  I'm afraid you won't be on the
ballot:  You're not getting the response you were looking for.  I take
it you thought I'd concede because he was such a bloody, cruel son of
a bitch?  Nope.  He's a human.  And me, a human, killing another
human, is wrong.  Not even HE deserved the death penalty.

Greg

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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: 020 vs 030
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:54:21 GMT

EC030 costs $5 more than '020... that points up one major advantage... as
long as the CPU is socketed, the machine is upgradeable at a later point.

Thom

What performance comparison of an EC040 vs. an '030?

Thom