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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:26:32 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Vegemite/Men at Work
              14 Aug 1992 17:58:58 -0500 from <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:58:58 -0500 Doris Smith said:

> This may have been described/defined on the list before, and if so
>forgive my asking again - but what is Vegimite?  When we were in England
>this summer our group included 3 Australians. On a couple of occasions I
>noticed that one had a can with "Vegimite" written on it. I would have
>asked him what it was, but never thought of it when I was around him.

  Travelling in a fried-out combi,
  On a hippie trail, head full of zombie,
  I met a strange lady, she made me nervous,
  She took me in and gave me breakfast.
  And she said...

  "Do you come from a land down under?
  Where women glow and men plunder,
  Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder,
  You better run, you better take cover."

  Buying bread from a man in Brussels,
  He was six-foot-four and full of muscles,
  I said "Do you speak my language?"
  He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich,
  And he said...

  "I come from a land down under,
  Where beer does flow and men chunder,
  Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder,
  You better run, you better take cover."

  Lying in a den in Bombay,
  With a slack jaw and not much to say,
  Said to the man "Are you trying to tempt me?"
  Because I come from the land of plenty?
  And he said...

  "Oh!!!!!!!! Do you come from a land down-under?
  Where women glow and men plunder,
  Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder,
  You better run, you better take cover."

Tony H.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:28:27 EDT
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Yes, I'm an e-wimp

I can't keep up this week. I just discarded several hundred
messages from words-l. I managed to look at a few but I'm
hopelessly lost. It seems like the battle of the sexes is
still raging. I think I'll wait till things cool down(or
maybe not.)HEY, does anybody have any wisdom on why Pat Buchanan
thinks Hillary Clinton is a radical feminist ? I'd love to introduce
him to a few women I know. Gotta keep things in perspective here
Pat. Oh, am I rambling? (This is usually about the point where
one of my kids gives me a gentle reminder like, "Shut up,Dad")
Sorry, I'll be quiet
                                                 Br Paul
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Short Msg

Just wanted to say good morning.  I am at work doing our annual "roll-over"
for Financial Aid in preparation of new school year.  Have one of my staff
with me - I probably could do job without her, but her help is sure
appreciated ...and she desparately needs to earn some comp time (USF does
not pay overtime) as is divorced woman raising son by herself and it's a
rough road for her ...she also knows our system very well, having written
a large part of it.  I really am fortunate to have such a great staff.
Bye, must get back to work.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:14:01 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: the ugly american syndrome.
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>Jenna who turned in the paper work this afternoon to GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

Cool beans!

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:38:42 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Prostrate problems.
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Paul said:
> >I think the net is having prostate problems. Nothing for
and -abh commented:
> and what do you know about prostrate problems

He has prostate problems, *you* have prostrate problems.
-kmk
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 10:19:26 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Hi, Judith and Steph!
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> If I'm lucky, I'm going to have Judith for a guest on Saturday,
> but I don't wanna jinx it, so you didn't hear me say that.

I don't have internet access this am, so can't read the list (this
is to prepare for us for Wednesday when the whole system will be
down), so I don't know if Judith is there.  I wish I were!  She's
so much fun!!

Karen
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: To Architect
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:36:01 GMT
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gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal) writes:
> Well, in the case of Acorn, Steve & Roger did all three.  But then the
> only good CPUs are the ones designed by software guys...

Architectures by software people are as good as manuals by software
people.  Sometimes you get lucky and they are fine but usually they are
not worth using.

>> All three are separate professions.  Engineers rarely perform more than
>> one of these tasks due to the different specialized knowledge and
>> experience necessary to do a good job for each of them.
> 
> Not true.

It has been at the last three companies for which I've worked.
The best-known computer development book (_The Soul of a New Machine_)
also shows the architecture/design split.

Of course at small companies somebody might architect, design and even
lay out relatively simple chips, but then again they might answer the
phones and refill the bathroom soap dispenser, too.

--karsten

There are no indentations in my door or walls.  Not from boots, anyway.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:49:32 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Cellular Phones
              19 Aug 1992 05:27:10 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:27:10 CDT Natalie Maynor said:

>Btw, my failure to catch your pun on "prescriptive" yesterday was called
>to my attention by another list member later.

If it's any consolation, I didn't catch it until just now either.
In fact it took me a minute trying to think what I'd said before I
got it.

Tony H.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:32:37 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Giggles' News
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I don't think Giggles was in Cancun at all.  My spies didn't see him
there...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:14:58 EDT
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From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Soapbox/Bullshit

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:25:42 GMT, "Jim Thomas" <jthomas@WELL.SF.CA.US> wrote:
> Jim (you mean graham actually *read the vita**??) Thomas

Sure, it was most enjoyable.  Was the time you spent editing a hackers
magazine done as a way of infiltrating hackers in order to study them
for your computer crime work, by the way, or did that come after?

G
------------------------------------------------------------------------
such a provocative question!
JAG
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:55:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHY WAS GIGGLES IN THE BUSHES?? (was Re: Clambake
              Pictures)
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> Lots of people were taking pictures at the time.  Everybody should
> examine the group pictures behind the fire carefully to help determine
> exactly what giggles was doing in the bushes.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I am standing in the group on the right side of the picture in the
back, yelling "if you can see the camera the camera can see you" in
all the pictures taken *after* I experienced my ascension, seconds
after the picture in question was taken.  So, in most of them, I am
<in them> STS.
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:16:59 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      So much traffic..
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	So I log in this first sunny morning since I arrived back in
Massachusetts to find about a hundred more than usual mail messages
in my mbox.  No biggy, you folks have been a bit chattier than recently,
and I sent out an FYI to the eff-news mailing list, resulting in a large
number of bounces and cutesy "I'm on vacation" notes.

	But I feel obligated to tell you that one of my other mailing
lists is being far more interesting that you folks (Void, if you
must know).  *They're* discussing a book entitled "Penises of the
Animal Kingdom" (and, yes, wondering if it comes in a pop-up version).
Not only that, but they have beaten you to a conversation on Woody
Allen's relationship with his sorta step-daughter.

Rita
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
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Date: 12 Aug 92 12:50:24 GMT
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LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay) writes:

>> ... I would say "in line," but I hear more and more
>> people saying "on line."

>This used to be the one sure way to tell a NYC-er...this seems to be
>quite persistent.  I've never heard it from the mouth of anyone else.

How about if we take the British usage, substituting 'queue' for 'line'
(which, after all, makes it more obvious you're in a line for some purpose,
and going to accomplish something by being there).  Is it 'standing in
queue' or 'standing on queue'?  Maybe the New Yorkers are saying 'on line'
because they spend so much time 'on hold' it seems like proper usage?

Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:16:12 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Japanese pronouns
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> was personal pronouns. Only third person pronouns carry gender,
> while first and second person do not. This is in the indo-european
> family; I think Japanese has "I" masculine and feminine.

Whoa!  I didn't notice this the first time I read this.  There are
gendered versions of all Japanese pronouns.  There is also the neutral-
gender first-person pronoun wata(ku)shi.  As far as second-person
pronouns, they indicate more about the gender of the speaker than the
referent.  Third person pronouns are more or less like English.  The
tricky part is that you almost never use any of these, unlike English.

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:25:23 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Music Junkie
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> I wonder if someone could keep a digest of words-l postings and send it
> to Adam when it's reached a certain size.

The postings are automatically archived in ftp space at isis.msstate.edu
(docs/words-l/Archives), where they stay for a few weeks.  That takes care
of the first part above.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:13:47 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WHTMIQR12
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>his skimpy Speedo and frolics in the surf en pelotas, as they

Giggles, it was worth wading through eleven installments to learn this amusing
idiom. I have never heard it before, though I have lived 33 years in the
hispanic world, and with my <friends>, there's no reason why I wouldn't have
heard it before, but it's great and I plan to regale the office with it
tomorrow.


-abh
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:56:36 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject: Re: List Wars II
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
              Aug 20, 92 10:27 pm

>
> >What makes you think she (he?) was including us among those rubbishy lists?
> >   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
> Agnes more or less asked the same thing--it was an answer to Mr.
> Substantial's post that made the original offending comment.  It
> is a *direct* reference to this list.
>
> -Mka
>

Nope - I asked why you should insist on wearing the shoe when it does'nt
fit --
in fact this person was griping that she couldn't read all the books
Mr. Perfecto did bec of lack time - kids whatever - and that instead
of bragging that he had read all these books and simply list them (he
had listed several biggies for one week) that there should be
substantial discussion of literature - or nothing; it was in
this context that she said she would prefer silence to some of
"those" rubbushy/chatty lists...no reference to this list...why worry
about nothing?
AK
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Birthday Remembered

On this day, in 1587, on Roanoke Island, the first child was born in the
United States to English settlers.  I would assume Virginia Dare lived
less than three years, because by 1590 there was no trace of that first
colony.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:28:23 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM!

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
And not doing a bad job of it.  The only female computer geek I've
known ungeeked herself in grad school. Aren't they relatively rarer?
Anyway, I always think of geeks as men, too.  Or is that men as geeks?:)

Karen
what is a geek anyway?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this another example of sexist language; only the males are important
enough to label?  Or is it another kind of sexism?

JAG
^bwp
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:58:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's Trivia
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> quite stable in turns.  So here is the trivia question ...I arrived at
> work before anyone called in with answer so don't know the answer myself,
> although do know selections....what is the meaning of the initials MG?
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                             Peace,
>                                   Don

I think it is Milton Bradley, right?  No....  uh...  Milton Gbradley...
I'm so upset that I can't think straight.....
--ggs
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:55:30 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Back formations
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> > used to it.  A back-formation to me is something like creating the word
> > "edit" from "editor."
> >    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
> Did it happen that way?  I would have assumed the opposite, but I
> don't know, of course.

Yes, "edit" is an example of back-formation.  The fact that you would
have assumed the opposite is an indication of why back-formations occur.
Because er/or is often added to verbs to turn them into nouns, the
existence of a noun ending in -er or -or leads people to create the
corresponding verb.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:20:57 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Adam's magazine-buying habits
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> >buy regularly at the drew bookstore.  The cashiers always give me
> >funny looks;  I wonder why.
> Probably because they can't imagine a student spending US$3.50 on
> a thin little newsmagazine.  Worth every penny though, and half
> that price by subscription.

What I love best about the list is that no one seems to find the
combination of Adam's magazines weird.  I'm *sure* that's what
they are laughing at.  I don't think it's weird either, but I bet
'they' do.:)

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:23:36 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: when did in become on
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992, Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik wrote:
> >[re: Yankeeisms]
> > Yes, well..we have to remember this was south Alabama in the early 1970s.
>
> No, it was Houston, Texas in the mid 1970's (oh, about 1975) and the
> program was "Wonderbug."
>
Oh.
ndh (who obviously did not get the memory genes in the family)
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:52:44 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Looking out
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Here's a usage that I've been wondering about:

    >I could look it out for you.

I've encountered it in two distinct senses:

   1) I could look it up for you.  [consult something -- files, a
                                   dictionary -- to find an answer
                                   or satisfy an info request}

   2) I could look around and see   [e.g., go to shops where I live
      what's available.              that you don't have in your area]


      Does this usage come naturally to anyone on the list?
      I think Tony and Graham will say yes.
                                             --brad
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:49:05 EDT
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      netflow

I think the net is having prostate problems. Nothing for
hours and then great spurts.
                                        Br Paul
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:57:37 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: the D-words
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> I agree.  Probably nobody will ever read it again anyway, including you.

Not true in my case; I have at least one person waiting for it w/
bated breath.  That's the advantage of working in an understudied
field.But it'll never make a Movie of the Week.

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:19:18 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: List wars
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:09:00 EST, "Entropy Warrior" <AUSBROOK@IUBACS.BITNET>
 wrote:
> Get a load of this guys:
> >I'm certainly willing to sacrifice bazillions of
> >posts of chatter (like is found on Words-L) for
> >an intermittent list filled with substance.  But

What's the problem?  He keeps out of our way, we'll keep out of his.

> If all 182 Wordslers subscribe to LITERARY, I think we could take
> the thing over.  Has anything like that ever been done?
> Infiltration of an enemy list?

You're new here, right? :-)

G
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From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: Music Junkie

Greetings,

Only the good set nomail young.

Marty
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From:         Absolut Bandwidth <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why I Couldn't Find the RAM!
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>And don't forget math; geeks love math.

Then Giggles must be right after all because I flunked algebra in junior high
school and took "Math for Consumers" at the college level. I have never been
able to work math problems accurately and have relied upon a calculator or
computer to do them for me since I gave up my slide rule in 1974.

Math love is a frequent accompanyment of geek-ness, but the Ideal Form
"Geek" is not so much an aptitude as an attitude.

Right, Rita?

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:03:14 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars
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> Thanks, Natalie.  I seemed to have zapped the original I sent--
> not in the folder where it was supposed to be.  Thanks a lot.  I
> was about to climb into my fireproof file cabinets.

There was, of course, that comment about a Texas town...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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