From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: (FWD upon requestion) Response to Shannon Yeh
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:43:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct9.204301.20668
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <Bvv6E1.Ezr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, tang@riemann.math.purdue.edu (Puqi Tang) writes:
|> 
|> =========================================================================
|> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:03:41 -0500
|> From: chenjian@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Chenjian Li)
|> Message-Id: <9210081803.AA24763@mace.cc.purdue.edu>
|> 
|> This is a message to Mr. Shannon Yeh.
|> 
|> 1. The students covered by the protection bill are talented people, not bu4
|> Xue2 Wu2 Shu4. If you open the top journal in Biology, biochem---(e. Science,
|> Nature, Cell), you will see a lot Chinese names there. And the students
|> from mainland, have made their way to Harvard, MIT, Standford.....as young 
|> faculties. This is also true to almost every major field.
|> While you are talking, these people are doing really top level research. This
|> is why Chinese students are recognized here.
|> 

It is a loss to China. But Just take a look at how CCP has treated the
talented people in China. That is the loss to the world.

|> 2. These people are not liers, like you.
|> They will be endangered if they go back and still hold their belief in basic
|> human rights, in democracy and freedom. Surely , if they do the same thing like
|> you, to kiss up the CCP, to lie, to should "long live the CCP", they won't be
|> endangered, probably they will be promoted. However, do they want to do these
|> kind of shameless dirty deeds like you?

I am not sure he is a lier. He has said what he believed in. That kind of
people is the root of the tragedies in China.

|> Sorry , my dear, after so many people killed by CCP in forty years of tyrrany,
|> I just can't let the CCP pretend to be my savior any more.
|> 

But CCP is his savior.

|> 3.What America can get by protecting these students?---here are several points:
|> a. they get a group of talented people, who are leading the world class research
|> b. The American uphold its banner of freedom and democracy. The U.S is a great
|> country not only because of its power, but also the loyal belief. 
|> 
|> 4. About President Bush vs. Bill Clinton.
|> I can't believe that you are so dirty and blatently play tricks in front of all
|> the people. You want to say"hey bush, see these Chinese are attending Clinton's
|> conference, so , they are your enemies...."
|> Oh, boy, a pretty nice Li2 Jian4 Ji4, but sorry it won't work.
|> It would have worked if it were in China, where one Party dominates everything,
|> where you are an enemy if you don't line up and follow "the Party". However,
|> here, where people are used to different opinions, and open to them, it won't 
|> work.
|> Besides, for your information, the chinese students are learning, from both 
|> parties , but not just the Democratic party.
|> 
|> 5.
|> No, we are not hurting China, and my parents brought me up, not the CCP.
|> 
|> I can't help laughing by reading your lines which reminds me of the song"
|> the CCP is better than my mother...." Haaahaaaa, what a crap.

That is one of the ugliest songs I have ever heard. That reminds me of other
things:

1. Before 1949, CCP said people was water and they were fish. After 1949, they
   have said people are fish and they are water.

2. Before 1949, CCP said people used their own milk to feed them. After
   1949, ....


|> 
|> Let me tell you this--- my parents worked so hard and they contributed greatly
|> to the society as succeful , well known scientists. However, they are paid only
|> 160 Yan, plus several yan for hair-cutting. Well, as Marx analyzed---where is 
|> the rest of the value they created?   It is contributed to the society. In 
|> other words, they PAID  my tuition , already. And they paid a lot more than taht
|> . 

I just hope everybody thinks about it. We don't owe anything to CCP. But we
do owe a lot to our parents. They are the greatest, not CCP. CCP owes
everything to Chinese people, including you, me and those killed by them.

|> 
|> It is just a joke that CCP colleted money from people, and then say" look ,
|> I am feeding you!" This is high way robbery. The CCP surely did a good job
|> of brain washing to some people like you. "Make the people stupid, and then
|> it is easier to control."----the old Chinese dictators always said.
|> 

That is one of the biggest lies CCP has told. I can name more.

|> Finally, you know what is so good of this country?---It allows people like you,
|> to speak freely, even.
|> 
|> Chenjian Li
|> Purdue Univ.

H.J.
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