HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lehman@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de (Ralf Lehmann)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: waisindex a directory
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:59:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS, TU-Dresden, Germany
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lehman@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de (Ralf Lehmann)
NNTP-Posting-Host: irz213.inf.tu-dresden.de



I want to waisindex our ftp-server like an archie service (only the filenames).
The directory tree is full of symbolic links to directories pointing back to this
directory. Now the waisindex is running a recursive loop without an end.
How can I manage this problem and which are the correct parameters for the 
waisindex?

Thanks,
  Ralf Lehmann

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Subject: Wanted: help with PC Gopher II version 1.05r3 vs. merlot.welch.jhu.edu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:59:43 GMT

Using PC Gopher II version 1.05r3, if I connect to merlot.welch.jhu.edu,
pick the "Search Databases of Welchlab..." selection, pick the
"Cloning Vectors: plasmids, phage, etc." selection, then search for,
for example, "rat", I get an apologetic popup window stating that gopher
is "Sorry!  When I looked I didn't find anything."

Things work if I search using the "Internet Gopher Information Client v1.1"
on a Sun 3.

If you have ideas of why PC Gopher and merlot.welch.jhu.edu don't get along,
I'd appreciate hearing from you be electronic mail.
-- 
		Arthur David Olson	ado@elsie.nci.nih.gov
		ADO and Elsie are Ampex and Borden trademarks
From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Gopherising FAQ files
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:11:47 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1993Jan25.183335.28005@ohm.york.ac.uk>, nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel
Metheringham) writes:
<stuff deleted>
|> So of the types already handled by WAIS, it would seem best to munge
|> FAQs into a dash separated format, where each section is separated
|> by a line of dashes.   The first line following the dashes is the
|> section identifier.  This leaves the FAQ still readable, but able to
|> be directly indexed by WAIS.  A script can be written to modify most
|> FAQ sets into this format quite easily.
<stuff deleted>

My experience of using the -t dash option to waisindex stuff hasn't been
very good; it works but when gopher displays the items returned it seems
to display a significant amount of each section as the title rather than
just the first line following the row of dashes. I get much nicer results
if I convert the dashes to a blank line and use -t para. Anybody else had
this experience or is it just me?
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Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: schemers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roland Schemers)
Subject: Re: Gopher *client* over inetd
Organization: Distributed Computing Group, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:05:46 GMT


In article <1993Jan28.000407.6680@leland.Stanford.EDU> schemers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roland Schemers) writes:
>What you need to do is grab source to telnetd and change the part where
>it execs login to exec your gopher client (with the secure option, of
>course). We do that here and it works great. I also hacked it so it
>would reject off campus telnets.
>

Of course you then run the modified telnetd out of inetd on whatever
port you want :-)

Roland

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lindner@danzig.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: FTP/Gopher
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:15:53 GMT

In <9301251629.AA15573@boombox.micro.umn.edu> CCD@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Clare Durst) writes:

>There seem to be more and more FAQ files out there for people to get to.
>Has anyone gathered pointers to them into once place so we could put
>them into our Brown gopher? I see FAQs for Pagemaker, Canines, etc., etc.
>If no one HAS a source of a list of these FAQs, but knows of some of them,
>let me know, so at least *I* can get them! Thanks.

The definitive source for USENET faqs is the newsgroup news.answers.
All faqs that are posted to this newsgroup show up at the ftp site
pit-manager.mit.edu

It's relatively easy to mirror this into gopher.  Many people have
already done it to, consult veronica with "frequently" and you'll find
lots of hits.

You can also hit the WAIS gateway jik-usenet.src for a search of the
FAQs. 
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From: R.A.Pearce@bham.ac.uk (Roy Pearce)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: (None set)
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:53:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

==============================================================================
I have two questions relating to use of the mailing facility within Gopher.

1. How do you mail a copy of a Menu?
2. How do you mail a copy of a Document without first reading thru to the end?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher,biz.sco.general
From: mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us (Mitra)
Subject: Gopher and arguments in inetd.conf
Organization: Pandora Systems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:29:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Does anyone else have problems with the number of arguments required in
inetd.conf for Gopher.  It appears that in our Unix (SCO 3.2.4) that the

number of parameters is limited to 9, which only leaves 4 for parameters
that end up in argv - by the time you've set the flags, -o -u -l  you
dont have any left for the data-directory and the port. 

Can someone not using SCO confirm if they have more parameters than this?


- Mitra

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Anyway to pass args from user to shell script being exec'ed?
Keywords: exec scripts args
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:20:24 GMT

I am setting up a gopher using gopher 1.1.  Currently it is not exported.
I am finally beginning to understand the parameters of the exec capability.
I have one exec from my top level menu that consists of the Perl script that
retrieves the weather from UofMICH for one city.  This works properly.  I
then have a link to the UIUC weather gopher for those who want interactive
weather.

What I am trying to figure out now is whether I can run my own phone
directory program that was originally designed for shell command-line usage.
If called with only one non-switch arg, this C program looks only at the
lastname field, starting with the first position.  If I liked the behavior
of cso/ph/qi better, I would invest the effort to get that working, but at
one institution searching for all ellises picked up both firstname and
lastname ellises, as well as everyone in Ellison Hall.  That is completely
unacceptable in my view.

Something I read somewhere led me to believe that I could simply declare the
link to be type 7 and that the search arg would be passed to the script as
arg1.  This is not working for me.  Is there some way of accomplishing this?
Short of rewriting the C code for search and exec?

If there is currently no way of doing this it seems like it would be a real
useful feature.  Has this been discussed?

Thanks for any suggestions or discussion.

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  Humanities & Social Science,  GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst.   /        / /  /  / /
  Flint, MI 48504      ellis@nova.gmi.edu              /________/ /  /  / /
From: cherry@OPAL.MGH.HARVARD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: FTP/Gopher
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:11:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmr-z.1993Jan27.021137.10227
Reply-To: cherry@OPAL.MGH.HARVARD.EDU
Distribution: comp
Organization: Molecular Biology - Mass Gen Hospital

>In article <9301251629.AA15573@boombox.micro.umn.edu>, CCD@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Clare Durst) writes:
>>There seem to be more and more FAQ files out there for people to get to.
>>Has anyone gathered pointers to them into once place so we could put
>>them into our Brown gopher? I see FAQs for Pagemaker, Canines, etc., etc.
>>If no one HAS a source of a list of these FAQs, but knows of some of them,
>>let me know, so at least *I* can get them! Thanks.

Check out this gopher:

Name=FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) Searches and Archives
Type=1
Port=70
Path=1/Usenet-News/FAQs
Host=merlot.welch.jhu.edu
From: hanusj@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Joe Hanus)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: How do I avoid indexing the .cache files
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:22:53 GMT
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ava.bcc.orst.edu
Keywords: .cache, waisindexing, searching

We've waisindexed several directories full of biological data.
Gopher searches turn up the .cache files as hits since they contain
the search strings.  How do we avoid producing entries in the index
for the .caches?

If this is glaringly obvious to other gopherists, please e-mail me.


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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: john@math.nwu.edu (John Franks)
Subject: Re: Anyway to pass args from user to shell script being exec'ed?
Keywords: exec scripts args
Reply-To: john@math.nwu.edu
Organization: Dept of Math, Northwestern Univ
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:02:26 GMT

In article <ellis.727665624@nova>, ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
> 
> What I am trying to figure out now is whether I can run my own phone
> directory program that was originally designed for shell command-line usage.
> If called with only one non-switch arg, this C program looks only at the
> lastname field, starting with the first position.
> 
> Something I read somewhere led me to believe that I could simply declare the
> link to be type 7 and that the search arg would be passed to the script as
> arg1.  This is not working for me.  Is there some way of accomplishing this?
> Short of rewriting the C code for search and exec?
> 

You can do what you want (sort of).  It must be done in two steps.  A type
7 item can only return a gopher menu item.  But the key idea is that that
menu item can contain the search string.  Here's what you might do

Your phone book search script might look like

#!/bin/sh
echo "0Matches for $1 <tab> exec:$1:/path/cprog <tab> gopherhost <tab> 70\r"
echo ".\r"


It's .cap file would be 

	Name=Phone Book
	Type=7

When I did a search for Jones I would get back a menu with one item:

"Matches for Jones"

If I select that item then "cprog" is run with the argument "Jones" and 
the results are returned as a text file.

This is about the only way to pass an argument to a program being execed.

-- 

John Franks 	Dept of Math. Northwestern University
		john@math.nwu.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:27:28 PST
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Subject: NEW INTERNET PUBLICATION - Contributions Requested
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Distribution: comp

Reply to:

	Jason Manger
	Sigma Press UK
	jason@sigma.demon.co.uk

RE: NEW INTERNET PUBLICATION - Contributions Requested

Dear all, 


     I am currently engaged in the writing of a new book on the
Internet, and I need your feedback. If you have any comments or
suggestions as to the content of such a book, or if you have any
contributions for any of the topics below, I would be grateful
if you could get in touch with me via e-mail with your comments:

Topics:

     + Any new services that should be included e.g. new WAIS,
       Gophers, FTP archives, TELNET servers, information
       resources etc that can be included (or updated).
       If you are running a new service, be sure to mail me
       for its inclusion. Sources from the acedemic, business,
       and public community all welcomed.

     + Opinions on any of the current Internet publications
       e.g. Ed Krol's new Internet book. What can be improved,
       in terms of new material etc? . I also need new acronyms
       for inclusion in a glossary - What do you think needs
       including?

     + Businesses. How is the Internet helping you. What
       facilities do you use the most, and why?

     + Any other comments and/or suggestions for material to
       be included in any new book e.g. mailing-lists,
       new news groups etc etc.

All material used in publication will be acknowledged. Please pass
this message on to any other interested parties and/or news-groups.

Many thanks ...

Jason Manger
Sigma Press UK
jason@sigma.demon.co.uk
From:  (Tim Conery)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Anyway to pass args from user to shell script being exec'ed?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:30:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.gopher
Organization: University of Arizona
NNTP-Posting-Host: ptolemy.ccit.arizona.edu

In article <ellis.727665624@nova>, ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) wrote:
> 
> I am setting up a gopher using gopher 1.1.  Currently it is not exported.
> I am finally beginning to understand the parameters of the exec capability.
> I have one exec from my top level menu that consists of the Perl script that
> retrieves the weather from UofMICH for one city.  This works properly.  I
> then have a link to the UIUC weather gopher for those who want interactive
> weather.
> 
> What I am trying to figure out now is whether I can run my own phone
> directory program that was originally designed for shell command-line usage.
> If called with only one non-switch arg, this C program looks only at the
> lastname field, starting with the first position.  If I liked the behavior
> of cso/ph/qi better, I would invest the effort to get that working, but at
> one institution searching for all ellises picked up both firstname and
> lastname ellises, as well as everyone in Ellison Hall.  That is completely
> unacceptable in my view.
> 
> Something I read somewhere led me to believe that I could simply declare the
> link to be type 7 and that the search arg would be passed to the script as
> arg1.  This is not working for me.  Is there some way of accomplishing this?
> Short of rewriting the C code for search and exec?
> 
> If there is currently no way of doing this it seems like it would be a real
> useful feature.  Has this been discussed?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions or discussion.
> 
> --
>                                                           ___________________
>   R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765  /   _____  ______ 
>   Humanities & Social Science,  GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst.   /        / /  /  / /
>   Flint, MI 48504      ellis@nova.gmi.edu              /________/ /  /  / /

Gopher can pass arguments into shell scripts one of two ways that I know
about.

One way is by providing the arguments in the cap file.

Host=+
Port=+
Type=0
Path=exec:arguments to pass:script_name
Name=Whatever

The second way is to use type 7 to query the user for the arguments.  This
works
fine, BUT The shell script should write out standard gopher directory
protocol.
I got this statement from the index.c file, this is where index types are
handled.  I am still working on getting the output of the shell scripts
correct.

(You may also want to look at special.c to see how the script is handled in
the first exampled I gave.)

Host=+
Port=+
Type=7
Path=7/script_name
Name=whatever


Tim Conery
University of Arizona Computer Center
tconery@ccit.arizona.edu
us(602)621-2835
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: 'gopherd' won't build with WAIS (uibio)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:50:28 GMT

In <1k5t5qINNf8i@cronkite.cisco.com> ohansen@europe.cisco.com (Ove Hansen) writes:


>I'm trying to build 'gopherd' (gopher1.12) with WAIS (uibio), but it fails
>with the following message:

>Making data server
>cc -temp=. -L../object -o gopherd error.o globals.o gopherd.o daemon.o special.o
>  dedot.o openers.o index.o Waisindex.o serverutil.o ftp.o  waisgopher.o ext.o s
>ite.o gopherdconf.o kernutils.o  -lm -lgopher
>ld: Undefined symbol
>   _WaisIndexQuery
>*** Error code 2
>make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `none'

>I'm totally unable to find out where I've gone wrong - does anyone have 
>any good ideas?

Type "make clean", then "make" in the server directory..
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 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | Gophermaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: mtm@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (Mike Macgirvin)
Subject: Re: How do I avoid indexing the .cache files
Keywords: .cache, waisindexing, searching
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:57:14 GMT

hanusj@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Joe Hanus) writes:

>We've waisindexed several directories full of biological data.
>Gopher searches turn up the .cache files as hits since they contain
>the search strings.  How do we avoid producing entries in the index
>for the .caches?

	I usually use the following to index directories and bypass
dot files:

waisindex -d .index/index "`find . -type f -print | grep -v '/\.'`"

You can modify this as necessary to exclude specific filenames by
either chaining grep commands or perhaps using "egrep" and its logical
"or" construct instead.

mike


Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: trouble with searches on PC client
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7895E165402184D@ericmorgan.lib.ncsu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:06:30 GMT
Organization: NCSU Libraries
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:58:39 GMT

In article <01GTTDVB7TQQ8ZHLNH@vx.cis.umn.edu> Kimberley Homer,
HOMERK@VTVM1.BITNET writes:
>We have a link to NC State's "Search ERIC archives" on our Gopher.
>When I do a search using my PC client, I get the message "Sorry!
>When I looked I didn't find anything!" But when I do the search
>with the Unix gopherd (1.1) client, it works fine.  Is there some
>kind of query time-out parameter I should set on the PC client?

Gee, I suppose I should try to answer this, but I can't. I have the same
problem, and this is my own server! I don't know
what to do either.

Eric Lease Morgan
NCSU Libraries
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Where to discuss WorldWideWeb - and where can I find an intro article?
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:38:02 GMT

I am looking for an excellent (PostScript?) document which would introduce a
beginner to WorldWideWeb.  This may not necessarily be the place to discuss
this, but I don't see a group for comp.infosystems.misc for instance.

Any good pointers?

-- 
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Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Displaying disclaimers when selecting objects
Date: 27 Jan 1993 06:19:15 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Daniel J. Uetrecht (uetrecht@tornado.cc.umr.edu) wrote:
: Our administration would like to display disclaimers when a user selects
: certain gopher objects.  For example, when a user wants to view Usenet
: News through our gopher we would like to 1st display a disclaimer.

: Any thought on how this might be accomplished?

Provide Usenet through the 'go4gw' mechanism (a perl script that wraps
around a gopher-to-nntp service) and hack the perl to toss in
disclaimers at appropriate times.

"Appropriate" left to your discretion - you don't typically have a lot
of state information lying around, so it's hard to display a disclaimer
_once_.

--Ed
From: spencer@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Forbes report seeks Ultimate Gopher Contact
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:28:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


dbuck@world.std.com (David C Churbuck) writes:

>Does anyone have a name and number for the individual most identified with
>Gopher development? thanks
>David Churbuck
>-- 
>============================================================================
>David C. Churbuck				dbuck@world.std.com
>Associate Editor of Computers & Communications  dbuck@well.sf.ca.us
>Forbes Magazine					dchurbuck:MCIMAIL

Gopher was created at the University of Minnesota.
Suggest you direct your inquiries to their computer science
department. 
-- 

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spencer@cats.ucsc.edu      |      Aptos, CA   95003
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From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: [UPDATE] Problem with Gopher FTP access to some sites
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:05:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.C1FMt1.1qB
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis

In <C1FHIH.G9y@news.ucs.mun.ca> andrew@bransle.ucs.mun.ca (Andrew Draskoy) writes:

>Aside from machines which don't implement PASV, there are also a number
>that implement it incorrectly, apparently including some standard variants
>of UNIX, although I've been unable to tell exactly which ones so far.  At
>least on standard variant gives back a number on the order of 2^30 instead
>of the last octet in the port number.  I'm still looking into this and
>will post again when I find out more.

A/UX does this..  It returns a negative value for one of the PORT
components. 
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 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | Gophermaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher