From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: Mailing address for Mr. Steve Lin
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:52:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.000853.22771@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu  
(Chunde Shi) writes:
> In article <1992Oct5.221434.5513@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu  
(Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> >In article <ld1e3eINNp5v@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM  
(Steven  
> >Lin) writes:
> >> >
> >> >>>>Please make your check payable to:
> >> >>>>China SOS Education Fund
> >> >
> >> Do not mail your check to Steve!
> >> Do not follow up with this subject!
> >> 
> >> Please provide more information what kind of children need help?`
> >> What kind of help needed?
> >> 
> >> I thought to adopt some children, but I worry that they become CCP. :-)
> >
> >No, they won't become CCP as long as you adopt them before 6 years old. In  
> >fact, CG has tighten their control on adoptions. A friend of mine planed to  
do  
> >so but gave up because of the policy change. So, even you want to save them,  
> >somebody won't allow you. Some ultra-patriots think leaving China is a great  
> >sin. Only evil and spineless people would dare and be willing to leave their  
> >homeland. If you see mainland movies, especially the movies in 60s and 70s,  
you  
> >can sometimes hear conversations like this: (mother to son): "My son, don't  
> >leave. We are family. Even we starve to death, we should die together. We  
> >should not lose our spines and spirits."
> >
> >So, for those who promote going back to China right now, think twice. You  
have  
> >already looked quite patriot here in the USA, however, in the eyes of those  
> >ultra-patriots, you are still evils. At least you leave China once while  
they  
> >stay there for whatever reasons. So, people, especially like Shi Chunde, you  
>                                                              **********
> >might still be prosecuted even you have already kissed CCP for many times.  
You  
> >might realize this in a Niu2 Peng2 (place where people raise cows), or  
> >re-education camp, or behind bars.
> >
> >Carl


> what a honor to be nagged by you even for so long time after the "fight".
> I guess, from what you wrote, you have pretty old memory about China. I wish 
> I can express myself in more detail. For brief sake, I can only say what
> happened in China is pretty logical. It is part of "growing pain".
> I happened to be able to have "untraditional" self-education. For example,
> I listened to Taiwan, U.S., Russia, Vietname's Radio even during early 80s
> which was might be dangerous. I skipped classes when I was in college. Went  
to
> libary fished around read a lot of "forbiden" Westen publications. Including
> those highly critisizec "Geopolitical" publications, even ShongZhiWen's
> phylosophical book. I never had my mind fixed, I did believe Westen value
> stronger than anything else some time ago. But since a year or so ago, I  
found
> thing does not add up. Please do not think it was because my personal ups and
> downs. Quite frank, I am achieving most of, if not all goals I set for myself
> when I stepped on air plane to U.S.. It might be because I am doing "well"
> I have "extra" energy to reshaffle all the believes I had. And started to 
> have different views. I do not think I can convince you anything over the  
net,
> it might be possible through face-face conversation. I do like you to bear in
> mind that people's perception could be wrong, take a second look at CHina if
> possible.
> will you well.
> chunde
> 
> 

I read your post carefully each time. This is because to me, your point is  
quite strange. For example, in one of your post, you suggested China stop  
export goods to the US to make the economic recession even worse this winter.  
Even up to know, I still wonder what makes you think this way. Apparently, you  
hate the US and you want the US be as week as possible. That's fine. it's your  
personal preference. Fortunally you are now in a free country and you can  
express whatever you think. Had you had said things like this, I can guarantee  
you that you would be behind bar one day, at least sent into a re-education  
camp, or maybe you would be jail-mate of Wei Jinsheng (although Wei would never  
like you because of your viewpoint). 

I strongly suggest you not to go back in the near future after I read your  
above post, for your own interest. Although I don't like your viewpoint, I  
still don't want to see you spend your time in a confined cell. I think you  
would think of Carl after you sit lonely in jail for a while.

Carl