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From: prmader@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (MICHELLE MADER)
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:21 EST  

In article <MfN4otu00WBOI4QDMT@andrew.cmu.edu>, Laura McGinnis <lm3a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>On 22-Jan-93 in Re: Is There A Mommy Track ..
>user Mark Olson@IMD.Sterling. writes:
>>...Every parent that I know is
>>concerned that they are making a contribution at work, concerned that they are
>>a member of the team, that they are someone that their coworkers can count on.
> 
>Thanks, Mark, for pointing out that parents are people, too.
> 
>(Nice stuff deleted.)
> 
>But I want some "conditional love" , too - from people who respect me
>for what I can do.  This is what I get at work - appreciation from
>people who are in the same situation I am in, who can look at what I do
>& make an informed decision about how valuable I am.
> 
>(More nice stuff deleted.)
> 
>But I don't want to let my coworkers down, either.  My kids will,
>hopefully, gorw up & have lives of their own, and what will I have, if I
>don't maintain some contact with the outside world?  I worry about
>friends whose kids are approching school age & who have given up their
>careers to stay home & raise their families.  What will they do while
>their kids are in school?

Are you kidding? :)  This post is not intended as a flame but remarks
like the one above are the kind that begat the stereotype of the
woman sitting on the couch eating chocolates and watching soaps all day.
Life gets a lot busier once your children are in school.  (No one with
small kids ever believes that, I didn't either, but it's true.)  When
the kids are in school these people will:  1) get to clean their house,
2) get some time to themselves,  3) get their shopping done, 4) do
volunteer work at the school [e.g. lunch room monitor, librarian, room
mother, parent-teacher orgs.], 4) volunteer at church or other social
service organizations, etc.  They will do this during the day so that
when the kids come home from school they can:  1) help with homework,
2) take the kids to -- Scouts, sport practices, sporting events, music/
language/etc. lessons, the library, (something especially time consuming
when you have more than one child since they don't usually participate
in the same activities at the same time), 3) spend some time eating 
together, 4) devote any time to their spouse.
                    ^^^
I'm not saying that people who work outside the home don't do these
things. (I work outside the home.)  However, those of us who've lived
this life for a while realize quickly that we can't do everything and
are grateful for the efforts of those who don't work outside the home.

Even if all they did was take some time for themselves, is that such a
bad thing?  Considering that several of us at work found it necessary
about a year ago to start a club called Working Mothers Get Out of the
House Once a Month, I don't think so.

[NOTE:  All moms are working moms.  Some of us work inside the home
and some of us work outside the home.] 

Michelle      Mom to 2 school-age children.
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:17:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: bradley.1993Jan26.181716.23636
Organization: Bradley University

ptb@prg.ox.ac.uk (Peter Breuer) writes:
blowfish@centauri.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>3 pages is far far far to long.
>
>And exactly how I am I supposed to fit four postdoc and faculty
>positions, three degrees, and one hundred publications into two pages?
>(Mind you, if you _could_ tell me how ...)

Obviously, new graduates and young professionals should keep their resumes
to one page if possible, and the better one can summarize and make the most
of the least amount of space the better....but, in the end I think the best
course of action is to use whatever space you think you need.  I can safely
keep my resume at one page, you probably cannot without going to
microfische. =-)

I really like the idea someone had here of a multi-page prioritized resume,
with summarized information on front, important details next, and so on so
that a 3-page resume could actually be used 6 different ways.  If I ever
get to that point, I'll be sure to remember that format.  
-- 
==========davE....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.==========
### David Vessell -- SituSongs Ltd. -- Orange City, FL -- dave@bradley.edu ###
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill)
Subject: Scanning resumes?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:07:21 GMT

A reference was made on the news (CNN?) about the new administration
receiving resumes for cabinet positions.  It indicated that as these
resumes came in they were automatically computer scanned and then
filed by job type. They showed what appeared to be a workstation with
a image of the resume on the screen.

I was only half listening and missed some details. Could anybody tell
me what office accepts these resumes and what type of equipment and
software they use to file these resumes?

-- 
Mark Coverdill                                 The Ohio State University
Internet: markc+@osu.edu                              Columbus, Ohio
From: schenn@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Lisa Henn)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:22:00 GMT
Followup-To: misc.jobs.misc
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The original poster asked about options for work and family arrangements,
and how to negotiate them.  This month's issue of _Working Woman_ magazine
has a cover story about this entitled (paraphrased from memory) "No, the 
Mommy Track does not have to -derail your career -<some other item> -alienate
your coworkers, But you have to be Organized".  The article covers how to 
put together a plan for such arrangements, how to approach management with
your proposal, and how to stay connected so that the impact to your career
opportunities are minimized (while having an arrangement for your children
with which you are happy).  The issue came out this past Friday.  I've seen
it in bookstores and in airport newsstands, but I don't know if it is carried
outside of the U.S.

I hope this is of help,

L
Lisa Henn
Analex Corporation
schenn@e4310h01.lerc.nasa.gov
From: mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: 401K
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:35:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: NL.mjc.727738531
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

>Keep in mind that the 401k money is taxed ONLY ONCE at the time of
>withdrawl.
>If you kept the same money in a savings account, you are taxed EVERY YEAR
>on the same money - that's where the tax deferment advantage is.  
>So your 3750 is NOT worth the same in a 401k as in a regular not deferred
>savings account.

I think there's a hole in your logic.

The *principal*, or the money you deposit into the account, is taxed once,
either way.  In a 401(k), you pay that tax when you withdraw the money; in
a normal investment (stocks, savings account, whatever), you pay the tax
in the year in which you earn the money (regardless of when you buy the 
stock, make the bank deposit, etc).  You will never pay income tax on
that money twice.

Similarly, you will pay tax on the interest once.  With a 401(k), you pay
that tax when you withdraw the money.  With anything else, you pay it as
income tax on savings interest, capital gains tax on stock price improvements,
and so on.  You will pay tax on the interest once, either way.

The reason that 401(k) plans are considered to be a win is that you are 
gambling that your tax rate when you take the money out will be lower than 
it is now.  Of course, if your tax rate rises due to (more) fiscal 
irresponsibility on the part of the folks in Washington, you lose. 

Monica
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: liu@eleceng.ee.QueensU.CA (Yong Liu)
Subject: telecommunications trade journal
Organization: EE Dept., Queen's University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:13:03 GMT


-- 
Does anyone know the address and the phone number of a telecommunications 
trade journal published in U.S.? I saw it once and found a lot of 
advertisements for engineering jobs on it.
=============================================================================
John Liu 
Department of Electrical Engineering
Queen's University                       Phone:  (613)545-6693
Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 3N6        Email:  liu@sound.ee.queensu.ca
From: rogers@calamari.hi.com (Andrew Rogers)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 09:07:22 -0000
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
NNTP-Posting-Host: calamari.hi.com

In article <bhayden.728050784@teal> bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
>>Someone recently suggested that it might be a good idea to try out
>>different coloured paper instead of the standard white, blandola...
>
>...For most other "real" jobs, you are much more likely to alienate the
>person reading the resume.

There's also a good practical reason to stick with white (or, if you really
must be elegant, cream or ivory) stationery: it's much easier to photocopy,
FAX, or scan.  Not to mention the fact that typically only the HR dept.
will ever see the original anyway...

Andrew
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From: klm@gozer.mv.com (Kevin L. McBride)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,ne.jobs,biz.jobs.offered
Subject: Re: New England Business Expanding Nationwide
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:37:48 GMT
Organization: GhostBuster Central - Southern NH Usenet Access, Nashua, NH

BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ) writes:

> [blah blah blah]

> What the work entails:
> As I said, no experience is necessary.  This is not sales work.  B. P. Heintz
> & Associates is a marketing company dealing with over 15,000 products, from
> toothpaste to Ford, GM, and Chrysler automobiles.  We are seeking individuals
> willing to apply our methods to expand our market share.  Time commitment is
> flexible.  Profits down the road could have a committed person retired in 5
> years.

Gee, can you say AMWAY?

Sheesh.
From: saggarwa@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Sandeep Aggarwal)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: A job in Organic Chemistry
Keywords: A PH.D IN ORGANIC CHEMISTRY W/EXPERIENCE.
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:10:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



I am a Ph.D in Organic Chemistry and have synthesized many isoflavanones and 
bile acids.  I have also used modern instrumental techniques for the
elucidation of the structures of these organic compounds.  It may be 
appropriate to mention that during the research I was the first one to 
develop a direct method of synthesizing isoflavanones.  I have also worked
extensively with HPLC and GLC  for the analysis and estimation  of various
bile acids and alcohols in the urine and plasma of patients with cholestic
lever diseases.

Yours Sincerely, 
Suresht Aggarwal.
From: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Looking for average salaries/rates in your country
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:10:42 GMT
Reply-To: psanders@srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

I am working on a (personal) project to compare programmer charge rates
and salaries across the world. I can't find any data on non-UK countries
so I'd be very grateful if some people from different countries could mail
me their average rates for the following:

Contractors:
	Programmer Salary, Charge rate per day
	Senior programmer: Salary, charge rate per day
	Consultant: Salary, charge rate per day
	Principal consultant: Salary, charge rate per day

Company-employed:
	Programmer Salary, Charge rate per day
	Senior programmer: Salary, charge rate per day
	Consultant: Salary, charge rate per day
	Principal consultant: Salary, charge rate per day

National/regional averages would be great! A general reference for all
this kind of information is even better!!

Thanks in advance,

Paul.
--
   Paul Sanders      psanders@srd.bt.co.uk		Tel: +44 473 645716
     Software Research, BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath IPSWICH IP5 7RE
From: bstring@mainz-emh2.army.mil (BOB STRINGFIELD)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re:  Non-Computer Job Posts
Date: 28 Jan 1993 04:22:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Bill:

Two sources that I know of are:

    FEDJOBS (listserv@dartcms1.bitnet -- sub FEDJOBS)
    EMPLOY  (employ-request@oti.disa.mil) [restricted to .mil,.gov]

Problem for both lists is obtaining sources for announcements,
listings and other pertinent job information.  Anyone knowing of
such sources, please post directly to me or the list.  Thanks..
--bob

************************
<*>

I would be happy to see "COMPUTER SUPPORT" - type jobs available
as well..!

What are these???  Technical Specialists
                   Sr. Level Computer personnel: Operators, Tape
                   storage Librarians; Operation Supervisors; etc.

    .......That's who!

    I realize this is a column for posting many professional positions,
    but all I've seen are mostly P/A and Engineer positions.    There 
    are dozens of other support positions in EVERY MAJOR COMPUTER 
    ENVIRONMENT, why do 'these' jobs never get posted?  Is there another 
    column in which to post??
**************************************

***********************************************************************
Robert (Bob) L. Stringfield      Mainz Army Depot
UNIT 24218  P.O. Box 52:  APO AE 09185
COML (No ETS or Autovon available): 06131-696328 (Germany)
FAX: 06131-696467  IRC Nick - DeathStar (:ds)
bstring@mainz-emh2.army.mil or bstring%mainz-emh2.army.mil@vm1.nodak.edu
                   Truth:  IGNORANCE hates knowledge....
*************************************************************************
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:15:37 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhambra.pa.dec.com

>Someone recently suggested that it might be a good idea to try out
>different coloured paper instead of the standard white, blandola...

Don't bother.  By the time most people see a resume, it's been
FAXed and/or photocopied several times.  I'd recommend high quality
black type on good bond paper.  This copies very well.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: VAN_HEEL@FHI-Berlin.MPG.DE
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Electrical engineer from Bosnia needs job in Canada
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:13:29 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum MPG Berlin





        Electrical engineer from Bosnia needs job in Canada



        Konstantin Hadziristic (44), 
        master's degree in electrical engineering,
        19 years of experience in energy conservation in industry
        (data acquisition, modelling, unit energy consumption
        and power demand analysis, management improvements)
        seeks suitable job offer in Canada (Edmonton?).

        Was forced to leave Bosnia with wife and 2 year old child, 
        and is temporarily living in Holland.

        A permanent resident visa for Canada is already available.

        Please phone directly:    011 (31) 5945-13095
        or reply by e_mail (see below)

        Konstantin Hadziristic 
        B.v. Waninglaan 49
        9351 LS   LEEK     
        The NETHERLANDS



==================================================================

      I am posting this for a friend.  Wil forward electronic messages
      by ordinary mail or FAX.

      Marin van Heel 

      Fritz Haber Institute of the Max Planck Society   
      Faradayweg 4-6, W-1000 Berlin 33, Fed.Rep.Germany 
      Tel: 49-30-8305380     fax: 49-30-8305509
      E_mail:  Van_Heel@fhi-berlin.mpg.de                
            


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From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,ne.jobs,biz.jobs.offered
Subject: New England Business Expanding Nationwide
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:27:26 GMT
Organization: B. P. Heintz & Associates
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: deimos.ucs.umass.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I am a New England business owner looking to expand my marketing business 
to a wider geographic area.  I will accept applicants from any part of the U.S.
or Asia.  Information follows:

What I am not looking for:
Investors.
Someone looking for easy money.
Experience - It won't hurt you, but anyone can learn to do this.
Salespeople - although, again, sales experience won't hurt you.

What I am looking for:
Someone with MOTIVATION - I said above that anyone CAN do this, but not
   everyone WILL.
Anyone desiring more MONEY, TIME, or FREEDOM.
Someone willing to put effort toward SELF-IMPROVEMENT.

What the work entails:
As I said, no experience is necessary.  This is not sales work.  B. P. Heintz
& Associates is a marketing company dealing with over 15,000 products, from
toothpaste to Ford, GM, and Chrysler automobiles.  We are seeking individuals
willing to apply our methods to expand our market share.  Time commitment is
flexible.  Profits down the road could have a committed person retired in 5
years.

Interested parties may call the number listed below (ask for Brad) or send
a BRIEF personal statement to the email address below.

- B. Heintz

*=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
I'm not into money.  I'm into freedom.

(413)546-5152
bpheintz@phobos.ucs.umass.edu
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: 401K
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:07:47 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: perch.zoo2.cs.yale.edu

In article <mjc.727738531@NL.CS.CMU.EDU> mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio) writes:
>>Keep in mind that the 401k money is taxed ONLY ONCE at the time of
>>withdrawl.
>>If you kept the same money in a savings account, you are taxed EVERY YEAR
>>on the same money - that's where the tax deferment advantage is.  
>>So your 3750 is NOT worth the same in a 401k as in a regular not deferred
>>savings account.
>
>I think there's a hole in your logic.
>
>The *principal*, or the money you deposit into the account, is taxed once,
>either way.  In a 401(k), you pay that tax when you withdraw the money; in
>a normal investment (stocks, savings account, whatever), you pay the tax
>in the year in which you earn the money (regardless of when you buy the 
>stock, make the bank deposit, etc).  You will never pay income tax on
>that money twice.
>
>Similarly, you will pay tax on the interest once.  With a 401(k), you pay
>that tax when you withdraw the money.  With anything else, you pay it as
>income tax on savings interest, capital gains tax on stock price improvements,
>and so on.  You will pay tax on the interest once, either way.
>
>The reason that 401(k) plans are considered to be a win is that you are 
>gambling that your tax rate when you take the money out will be lower than 
>it is now.  Of course, if your tax rate rises due to (more) fiscal 
>irresponsibility on the part of the folks in Washington, you lose. 
>
>Monica

Assuming that the tax rate is the same, it seems to me the 401K is still
better. The reason is by delaying paying the tax (until you withdraw
the money), you allow the part of the interest that should have been used
to pay tax to accumulate. Secondly, from the postings here, it seems that
another advantage of having a 401K plan is you will get the contribution
from your employer. Is that correct? So, assuming the tax rate is the
same, is the 401K plan better? Much better?

Actually, I think delaying tax payment is a tactic used by some companies
to increase profit.
I have heard that a very big company in Britain has its official
headquarter in a very small town in England. They actually bought
this small old company to become its official registered company because
that small company was established a long time ago. And in Britain, there
was a law /loop hole that for companies formed before a certain date,
they can delay paying the tax on profit for up to a year. For a big company
(I think it is Habitat), one year's interest on the tax payment can be
quite a big amount. It seems to me that for the 401K plan, you can delay
the payment of tax for quite a few years. Well, perhaps the real gain is not
a very substantial amount, but there seems to be a gain.

Dicky.
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:22:35 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1k42kpINN2n3@usenet.pa.dec.com> klee@wsl.dec.com writes:
>Don't bother.  By the time most people see a resume, it's been
>FAXed and/or photocopied several times.  I'd recommend high quality
>black type on good bond paper.  This copies very well.
>
Most, maybe.  However I went on a few interviews a few weeks ago and
had the opportunity to hand a copy of my resume to no less than three
people at EACH interview.  It was at those times that I was glad I had
made the extra effort to put it on the highest quality paper I could
find.  I got a LOT of good comments from the people to which I gave my
resume, including one personnel director saying it was the nicest one
she had seen in a long time.  *PROUD smile here* :)  

If you feel like you need to be "sensible" and just put it on good bond
paper, plain white or whatever, then only use that utilitarian approahc
for mass mailings of resumes, etc.  If you are going to go in for an
interview and will have the opportunity to make sure that people get 
your resume directly from your hand, I'd say the extra effort for 
an exceptionally high quality look is worth it.  Maybe print up a batch
of fifty resumes solely for taking with you to interviews.

Cat

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
    Cat Stanton
    stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu
_______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: kbanerje@grad10.math.ncsu.edu (Kaushik Banerjee)
Subject: Inquiring about Westinghose in Aiken, SC
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:05:15 GMT


I would like to hear from people who have experience
at Westinghouse in Aiken, SC (their Savannah River division).
Thanks.

K. Banerjee



Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: juparra@gel.ulaval.ca (Juan Parra)
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
 
Reply-To: juparra@gel.ulaval.ca
Organization: Dept. Genie Electrique, Universite Laval
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:07:02 GMT


I have in my hands a book called WRITING & SPEAKING IN THE TECHNOLOGY
PROFESSIONS, a practical guide by David F. Beer. It has chapter on
"writing technical documents that are clear and effective" and another
on "giving oral presentations more confidently". Wath for an article call
Job Hunting.This is not an ordinary book, this a collection of the finest 
articles printed in the IEEE trasactions on professional communication.

IEEE PRESS
445 Hoes Lane, PO box 1331
Piscataway, NJ 08855-1331
That's all for now.
 
Greetings,

Juan Parra
Universite Laval