From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:51:19 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <CJ6--a@engin.umich.edu> chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct10.192903.33776@uvmark.uucp>, davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>> Alright fans, let's hear your arguments!!!  Who in the world can deny that
>> the Miami Hurricanes are the #1 team in the nation, without a doubt???
>> Not only are they undefeated...
>> Not only have they beat a number of ranked/tough opponents...
>> But...
>> 
>> In successive weeks, they have taken down #3 Flordia State, and now, they
>> have travelled to #7 Penn State, and beat them on their own turf...
>> 
>> Who has played tougher opposition???
>> Who has beaten the toughest competition???
>> 
>> THe Hurricanes, that's who...
>> 
>> They can no longer be denied, Washington is good, but they have not had to
>> face the trials that Miami has had too...
>> 
>> Give them their due..
>> 
>> They are #1....
>> 
>
>	Unfortunately for this argument, PAC-10 has turned out to be a lot
>tougher than anyone had thought.  According to many analysis (ESPN people,
>Beano Cook and friends)  There is no conference tougher than PAC-10 right 
>now.  

True the PAC-10 is kicking ass right now! 

>
>	Although, Miami beat two top ten teams, both FSU and PENN st. were
>relatively untested until the Miami game.  So did they deserve to be in 

Ahem, I believe Florida State had gone into Clemson's backyard and taken a 
HUGE conference WIN home! I wouldn't exactly call that a pop-quiz! 

>top ten?  I leave that for other people to argue.  Meanwhile Washington has
>beaten three top twenty oppenents in a role.  Like one ESPN analyst said,
>"Washington has not done anything to show that they don't deserve to be
>#1.  Although #1 ranking at this point in time does not really mean 
>anything."  

I disagree. #1 ranking now means that you have to lose or play poorly to get 
bounced from that perch. As long you keep winning and nobody drums up any 
anit-you sentiment (like people have done with Miami) you stay #1. 

>
>	BTW for the fellow who said that Washington gave up nearly 400 yards
>to CAL.  CAL is not a bad team, they are capable of beating anyone at anytime.
>(Or losing to anyone at anytime for that matter.)  The point is Washington
>did what they were supposed to do to win the game that is to hold Russel 
>White under 100 yards of rushing.  They did exactily that and won the game
>quite impressively.  (So what it was close game in three quarters?  A
>football game last four quarters.)  
>
>	Washington has a very tough schedule from now on.  By the end
>of the season there is a definate possibility that five or six teams in 
>PAC-10 would be in the top twenty and two or three teams in the top 
>ten.  That would make Washington's schedule at least as tough if not 
>tougher than Miami's schedule.  

Yes, but I believe Washington gets all of its toughies at home this year. Miami
is invincible in the Orange Bowl so their wins there have been discounted by 
some net.idiots. Would those same people discount Washington's big wins over 
Cal and Nebraska at home. Oh yeah.. what of Stanford, who will have to come to
Seattle in a couple of weeks?  If Washington wins that one at home will it 
have as much significance?  Just trying to make you guys see how ridiculous 
you all sounded last year when discussing this very same issue the other way 
around. 

>
>	What does it all mean?  With the exception of Oregon and Oregon 
>st.  It is OK for Washington to win in close games because the opponents 
>are tougher. BUT it is not OK for Miami to win close games from now on.
>(With the exception of Syracuse game).  
>
>	At this point, yes I agree Miami should be #1.  But they must 
>blow out each and everyone of their opponents in order to claim that 
>out right(BY 25 pts or more).  And I am not sure if they can keep that up 
>every week.

It's thinking like this that gets coaches out running up the damn score. 



Don't ever say this kind of stuff out loud! 
-- 
Ronnie
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I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....