From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Regarding Michael's question on Minus Ten and Counting...
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:30:54 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Michael,

   If you *REALLY* want a copy of Minus Ten and Counting, either try asking
Mary Creasey, being that she has a talent at finding such items.  Next,
try Juanita Coulson (c/o Firebird Arts & Music), since she'll sell you one
if she still has it --- at $15 a tape.

   I *STRONGLY* recommend that you, and *EVERYONE* with OCP tapes that you
copy them and put the originals in a dry, cool place where they won't be
harmed.  It's VERY unlikely that they'll EVER be back in print, and if you
think it's hard to get them *NOW*, just wait 5 years.  It'll be IMPOSSIBLE.
  _Jefferson and Liberty_ is recorded on Leslie Fish and the DeHorne crew's
tape _It's Sister Jenny's Turn to Throw the Bomb_, available from Firebird
Arts and Music, or any of their dealers  (Hmm...Kay, is it time to get the
Filk Distributors list posted? :-).  The chords should be available in any
major folk book as it's a parody of a folk song, or at least, a more detailed
rendition of the original.  :-)

   It's quite unlikely that the original OCP tapes will go back in print.
I honestly don't want to say much about it, since it's a VERY messy topic
and I have a habit of starting flame wars without intending to.  The least
I *CAN* say is that every person involved with the tape will have a story
explaining why someone else on the tape is resposible for keeping it  out
of print.  Of course, with a dozen or so stories floating around, it's
impossible to tell who's REALLY making up the stories.  I get the impression
from Teri Lee that she will not have any to do with the original musicians,
for whatever reasons whether valid or not, I'm not passing judgements since
I *AM* clueless about the details.  Without the producer's consent, it'll
be very hard to get ANYTHING done.  My _PERSONAL_ opinions is that any
decision to keep any tape out of print is not only financially irrational,
but unethical.  My best advice is to get all of your friends to keep asking
all of the relevant parties if and when the tapes are going back in print.
Perhaps if a few hundred people ask them about it, something may be done. :-)
I'll end this before half of the people from Minus Ten and Counting start
telling me to go to hell and that I am a stupid twit.  :-)

  BTW, with no offense, it should take you about 10 minutes to type out
the words to Jefferson and Liberty.  The amount of time spent typing might
be less than the amount of time required to hunt them down... :-)


   Regarding Julia Ecklar, she hasn't been involved much with filk recently
now that she's a big-name writer.  You'll find her on most OCP tapes.  I
don't think it's worth listing their entire catalog at the moment; ask a
huckster!  She's also supposed doing a CD with THOR that's been promised for
several years, and in fact, may come out by the time I have my tenth tape out
[that'll  be after I learn how to sing, engineer, write music, write lyrics,
release 9 times, and find that I'm really an alien from Alpha Centauri... :-)
BTW, if you want a copy of the Ecklar material from OCP, ACT NOW.  Every day
you wait means it'll be harder and harder, if not impossible, to find certain
tapes.

Happy hunting!