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From: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: Hard drive question,please read and reply
Date: 31 Dec 1992 05:38:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu



I just bought a seagate st251 hd and a western digital 8 bit 
conbtrol card and have also just been told that it
won't work with my 80286(the card that is) because it is
only 8 bit.
Is this true?
From: shuford@cs.utk.edu (Richard Shuford)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: DEC LA50 serial to ibm/pc
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Date: 3 Jan 1993 06:25:02 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville--Dept. of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Expires: 27 Feb 1993 22:24:25 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: carlsberg.cs.utk.edu
Summary: DIP switches, advice
Keywords: LA50

If you want to drive a serially intrfaced printer from an IBM PC
parallel port, you have to get a parallel-to-serial converter box.
Such things are a fairly standard item; consult your local supplier
of computer accessories or order from a vendor such as Inmac or
Black Box Corporation.  Some units offer buffering of output data.

Or you can use the serial port on your IBM PC clone.  The MS-DOS
MODE command can be used to set up the serial port.  This typically
involves the ",P" option of the MODE command, so consult your
system documentation for the proper syntax.

In wiring a serial cable, you'll need a null-modem configuration,
since both the PC and the LA50 are RS-232-C DTE devices.  You can buy
a little "null-modem" adapter from Radio Shack if your have only a
straight cable.

A file containing information on DIP-switch settings of the DEC LA50
printer is available for anonymous FTP from CS.UTK.EDU in "pub/shuford".
You'll need this information to set the serial data rate.  The default,
however, is 4800 bps.

The LA50 print mechanisum is similar to the original Applewriter and
certain Okidata units, but DEC used different firmware to tailor the
behaviour.  Among other things, the LA50 supports SIXEL graphics.

-- 
 ...Richard S. Shuford  | "Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers
 ...shuford@cs.utk.edu  |  money little by little makes it grow."
 ...Info-Stratus Coord. |  Proverbs 13:11 NIV
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown)
Subject: Re: HP LJ4 paper curl rumors, conspiracies, experiments
Organization: Oak Road Systems, Cleveland Ohio USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:41:16 GMT

On my IIIp the paper curls a bit less when coming out the side exit
(face up) than the top exit (face down).  Curl is not unreasonable out
the top, but was surprisingly more than my II (not IIp) had been.

If you have curl problems, you might experiment with the other paper
exit (assuming the IV has one).
-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                      brown@Ncoast.ORG
"If you click on its capital, Ouagadougou, you'll hear its name
pronounced--in this instance, a most helpful feature."  
                                  --PC Magazine, 92/12/22, pg 352
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: swispl@solomon.technet.sg (SW International)
Subject: Experience with these anyone?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:05:29 GMT

I'm in the market for a home-printer at the moment. I want good to laserlike
quality, and maybe color. I don't need postscript as long as I can use
all my Windows TT-Fonts etc. There are 4 models right now which look
interesting. But before buying I'd like to know the experience you people
on the net have with these. The 4 models are:

	- HP Postable Deskjet
	- Canon BJ-200
	- EPSON LQ-100
	- Citizen GX-240 (Color)

Here are the things I'd like to know about:

	- Print quality: Some older Deskjets I've seen didn't really
		align the printouts, so that you had a white line
		between two lines, especially in graphics. Does this
		happen?

	- Speed

	- Cartridge cost / refillable ?
		I know I can make my own refill for HP Cartridges. Does
		this also work for Canon? What ink to use?

	- Drivers
		Does a Windows-Driver exist?

	- Paper handling:
		Problems with envelopes, transparencies etc?

I'd much appreciate if you could help me here. If there are enough
and interesting answers, I'll summarize...

Thx alot

Have fun

Happy New Year

Mathias


--
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    14, Science Park Drive           | you could put a tail on it and
    Singapore Science Park           | call it a weasel".. Black Adder
    Singapore 0511                   | 
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    Fax: (65) 777-9401               | swispl@solomon.technet.sg
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: How to CLEAN my SparcPrinter ?
Summary: sparcprinter
Keywords: Sparcprinter
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:39:22 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.


	Hi,

	I have a sparc printer here, and Apparently it makes Dark vertical
	lines ( well..really wide dark lines ) whenever we print anything on
	It. I have tried about everything I know of ,cleaning the rolls,
	cleaning the fuser area,changing the Toner and the Drum , but still
	cleaning helps for a little while but the problem comes back right
	away after. So I guess there is another reason to this problem.

	Anyone here has a clue ?

	Olivier

	I will post a summary of answers ( If i ever get any )
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: youngbae@dot.cs.colorado.edu (Youngbae Kim)
Subject: Re: Want any comments on HP DESKWRITER 550C
Reply-To: youngbae@dot.cs.colorado.edu (Youngbae Kim)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:11:26 GMT

How about Apple StyleWriter compared to HP DeskWriter 550c?
I am considering to buy one of these two for my Mac 2VX.
I would appreciate any comments on Apple StyleWriter.

Youngbae Kim.
-- 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.laptops
From: junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka)
Subject: Re: Opinions / Questions on Canon BJ-200
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 23:30:20 GMT

brd@images1.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Barry Drodge) writes:

> I am considering getting  a Canon BJ-200 printer and would like to hear
>what others think of this unit.  The print seems to be pretty good,
>probably due to the new 64 jet head.

I'm trying to decide between Canon BJ-200 and BJ-10ex.
Both are portable (light weight), but BJ-200 comes with
AC only. I wouldn't mind that necessarily that much,
but I need to have the printer to work with 220V/50Hz
(Europe), also.

I spent half an hour calling around Canon without getting
an answer. Their techinical help line is closed until Jan 4.
Does anyone know, if BJ-200 will work with 220V/50Hz?
Is a simple transformer enough, or will it be necessary to
convert the AC frequency, too? I don't know the ink jet technology
enough whether the AC frequency is used for anything in the printer.

regards,

jari
(junikka@math.wisc.edu)
From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: HP LJ4 paper curl rumors, conspiracies, experiments
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:51:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <24549@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com writes:
>There has been an ongoing discussion on how the new HP LJ4 printer produces
>output that has an excessive paper curl.  The curl is usually described
>as a good bend near the top of the page, followed by 2-3 body waves.
>...
>The most-curling printer/paper:
>HP Laserjet IIp          with Willcopy 20lb
>...
>The one issue I've not been able to get a handle on, is whether the HP LJ4
>I was testing at Fry's Electronics was a valid test because of the fact that
>it had an Optional 500 sheet feeder attached at its bottom.  This optional
>feeder may have significantly changed the paper path from the standard
>...

OK. I have an HP4 with the optional 500-sheet paper tray and an HP IIP
with it's optional paper tray.  My personal observations are (for my
own equipment):

 * The actual "curl" on the IIP is greater that the 4 BUT it is a 
   symmetrical curl, much like the paper had been rolled-up for a
   while

 * the curls on the HP4 are non-symmetrical: there is a slight, but 
   noticable curl along the full top of the sheet, as well as several
   small, wavy curls down one side of the paper

 * The 500-sheet tray does not make a difference (no reduction in curling)

 * Envelopes tend to come out very nice because the side curls are on
   the "other" side of the feeder loop

 * The curls are less with heavier bond paper (naturally). My problem
   is (ethically) I must do alot of work with recycled paper, which is
   almost non-existent is the heavier weights.

 Bottom line: I prefer the HPIIP curl. It's easier to deal with. On the
 other hand, with a street price in the $1365 range (one company had
 a one-day only sale price of $1299 here in LA about two weeks ago) 
 for the HP4, it's hard to groan about paper curl when the output is so great. 
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: kchao@boi.hp.com (Kent_Chao)
Subject: Re: hp4 problems
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:05:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Bradley Wong (bwong@csulb.edu) wrote:
: >
: >    4)  Numerous reports of the autoswitching function not working properly
: >        and the printer begins "spitting" out hundreds of blank pages before
: >        it can be reset.  HP isn't acknowledging this one, so it could be a
: >        bad batch of controllers or an obtuse configuration procedure that is
: >        causing users to mis-configure.
: >

About  Blank pages 

I don't know what the operating environment and what type of file were  when 
the above situation happened. 

I do notice the similar symptom when printing Unix ASCII files using
LJ4's autoswitchiner mechanism.  It correctly identifies the file as a PCL 
file.  However, the output would be like this:

	  line1 
	       line2
		    line3
                          ...

The number of lines you can see depends on how fast they reach the right margin.
Any characters falling out of printable area cannot be printed.  This is
why you see blank papers.  The characters are there, but located out of right
margin!

This is because Unix text file contains line-feeds (LF) only.  A CR is 
needed to bring the rest of lines in line with line1.
From: inc@tc.fluke.COM (Gary Benson)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Voltage/Frequency
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:30:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Dec25.233001.16102
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA

In article <78810@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4997b@prism.gatech.EDU (hamza benamar) writes:
>
>	I was wondering if anyone on the net could provide me
>  with some help/input/information concerning printers, more
>  specifically the issue of voltage and frequency differences
>  overseas. I am planning to buy a portable printer or laser
>  one for a friend who will be using it overseas mainly, hence
>  requiring 220V/50Hz.
>	Can he simply use a voltage converter, disgarding the
>  frequency ? My knowledge in EE is quite limited. However, I
>  would guess the frequency would come in play whenever there
>  is a use of motors. 
>	I am mostly interested in the Deskjet portable/500, the
>  Canon bj200 or else.
>
>	Any help would be appreciated
>
>	Thanks.
>
>	Hamza
>
>-- 
>Hamza Benamar		Woodruff school of Mechanical Engineering, GIT.
>Phone : 404-352-8748	gt4997b@prism.gatech.edu	Atlanta, Ga.
>  


He may not need even a voltage converter. There may be an easyily-accessible
way to change over from one voltage range to another. Look closely.

If he DOES need a voltage converter, my best guess is that you will not
notice any change in operation as the motors generally used nowadays are not
frequency-dependent, at least not the line frequency. Most printer motors
are stepper motors with optically-coupled positioning feedback, and so they
are under the same microprocessor control as all the other functions.

Good luck -- be sure to check first if there is a voltage selection
switch.
-- 
Gary Benson   -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-inc@sisu.fluke.com_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. 
Stupidity is not a sin; the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity
is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no
appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.
                                                   -Lazarus Long
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:3706 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2442
From: diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com (Warren R. Diamond)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: HP LJ4 paper curl rumors, conspiracies, experiments
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:08:07 GMT
Reply-To: diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., EOS, El Segundo  CA

In article <Bzo19I.33s@csulb.edu> bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong) writes:
>In article <24549@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com writes:
>>There has been an ongoing discussion on how the new HP LJ4 printer produces
>>output that has an excessive paper curl.  The curl is usually described
>>as a good bend near the top of the page, followed by 2-3 body waves.
>>...

Well, as promised, I conducted some more experiments on the HP4 with several
paper types, and while I was at it decided to measure the actual leading
edge curl at the top of the page.  Also I did some measurements on 
the Apple LaserWriter II and QMS-810 with NXP 20lb.  The paper curl
results are...

1) Apple LaserWriter II with NXP 20lb       1/8"
2) HP LJ4               with MCS 24lb       3/16"
3) QMS-810              with NXP 20lb       1/2"
4) HP LJ4               with NXP 20lb       7/16"
5) HP LJ4               with Willcopy 20lb  9/16"
6) HP LJ4               with MCS 20lb       1"
7) HP LJ IIIp           with Willcopy 20lb  1 to 1 1/2" (an estimate)
7) HP LJ IIp            with Willcopy 20lb  1 1/2 to 2" (an estimate)

Again, the Apple LaserWriter II showed the least amount of curl at the
top of the page with 1/8", and the HP LJ4 curl ranged from 3/16" to 1"
depending on the paper type, (a factor of 4 difference).  I suppose
it was unfortunate that the initial paper I had bought for the LJ4 was
the MCS 20lb because that had the greatest curl.  I'll be switching
to the MCS 24lb, or some other 24lb since it's the closest to the Apple
curl level.

I would like to have done some measurements on the HP LJ IIp and IIIp
to compare with, but carrying around a ruler in Fry's Electronics and then
surreptitiously measuring paper would have attracted too many salesdroids.
But, from memory, the HP IIp which has the most curl of any printer,
I would estimate at 1 1/2 to 2" in a symmetrical bow with both ends
up in the air.

In conclusion, there is substantial variability in LJ4 paper curl depending
on paper selection, and a new owner will probably have to change from
their current favorite paper.

Disclaimer: I work for neither HP, nor Apple, nor Frys, nor any paper
companies.  I'm just a cold-war relic software engineer at Hughes Aircraft.

Warren R. Diamond
diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Q. to HP re. Spec of HP L-jet 4M
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:14:04 GMT

In article <Bzo8L4.8p4@boi.hp.com> ahill@boi.hp.com writes:
> (FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET) wrote:
>>
>> Have I got a "pre-release" and now it only needs 1 SIMM (as it should be),
>>
>The "extra" SIMM you have is a postscript bug fix for the case where multiple
>copies of a document with included graphics is being printed (actually,
>more of a special case than that, but you get the idea).  Postscript will
>still work without the SIMM, but it will be quite a bit slower in that
>particular case.  Try your work without the SIMM - if it doesn't effect
>your work, leave it out.

Is it newer 4M's which are shipping with the extra SIMM, or older 4M's,
or all of them?  Will there be a 1-SIMM replacement for people who need
3 SIMM slots?

--
Steve Kanefsky

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.unix.questions
From: deano@areyes.com (Dean Carpenter)
Subject: Need Epson LQ-1500 and HP LJII terminfo spec
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Areyes, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:35:17 GMT

  Does anyone have a good and complete terminfo entry for an Epson
LQ-1500 printer ?  I've just started to build one, and the going is a bit
obtuse, what with the terminfo man pages and all.  Plus I hate duplicated
effort ...

  Please send it directly to me, as I don't get the comp.periphs.printers
newsgroup, even though that seemed to be the logical Followup-To:
location.

  If I don't get one, I'll finish building mine, and anyone who wants it
can just email me.

  While I'm at it, I could also use one for the HP Laserjet Series II.

-- 
Dean Carpenter		uunet!areyes!deano		(203) 847-6003
Areyes, Inc.		deano@areyes.com

"No matter where you go, there you are"  sayeth Buckaroo 								 across the Eighth Dimension
From: citew@menudo.uh.edu (Seung Jin)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: HP LJ4 paper curl rumors, conspiracies, experiments
Date: 28 Dec 1992 22:38:58 -0600
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: menudo.uh.edu

In article <24549@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> diamond@vulcan1.edsg.hac.com writes:
>
>The ranking from least curling to most curling is as follows:
>1) Apple LaserWriter II  NXP            least
>4a) HP LJ4 w/500 feeder  Willcopy
>2) Apple LaserWriter Plus NXP
>3) QMS-810  NXP
>4b) HP LJ4   MCS
>5) HP IIIp   Willcopy
>6) HP IIp    Willcopy                   most curling

I think that this is proportional to the temperature of the roller and 
and reciprocal to the speed of the printer.
In slowest printer, which is HP IIp, the time during which a paper is
contacting with the hot roller is much longer.
No wonder that it will have most curling.

On the other hand, Canon laser printers (LBX seriers), which uses
different technoloty, has much less curling, even though speed is as slow
as HP IIp.
From: troberts@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Question: LaserJet motherboard upgrade
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:27:52 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

I have a LaserJet II that still runs in pristine condition, but its
limitations are starting to show.  I was wondering about the 
possibility of upgrading the motherboard to that of a LJ3 or LJ4.  
What's the word on the net about this possibility?  
Would it be cost-effective?  
Can the LJ2 hardware support the new features of the LJ4?
Has HP said anything about this? (I haven't heard much.)

E-mail responses would be appreciated.
Ted
troberts@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: HP LaserJet 4M PPD files
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:21:35 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Should anyone hear of the release of Macintosh PPD files for the HP 
LaserJet 4M for Aldus PageMaker and/or FreeHand, could you please post a 
note to this group?  I would like to get them ASAP, although my LJ 4M works 
great already :)

Thanks in advance,

TiM

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: swu@rad.rpslmc.edu (shuojiun wu)
Subject: HP IIP with PostScript Cartridge on sun IPC
Reply-To: swu@rad.rpslmc.edu
Organization: Rush Presbyterian-St. Lukes Medical Center, Chicago IL 60612
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:37:49 GMT

Hi,

I have been trying to install a HP IIP with PostScript Cartridge on Sun IPC
without any luck.  Currently my HP IIP is connected to serial port B on IPC.
Before adding in the PostScript Cartridge, I can print simple text files and
IslandWrite files to this printer.  Although it takes about 2 minutes to print.
This means there is no communication problem between my HP and /dev/ttyb on IPC.After adding in the 2 Mb memory board and PostScript cartridge, the printer stopprinting !!  If I lpq to check the status of my printer, it says active, but thejobs size is 0.  But the job size is not 0.  I saw the <on-line> panel is on,
and the light of <form feed> is blinking.  The display panel of HP IIP says
<PS Busy>.  About 1 minute later, everything is back to normal, the display
panel says <MP Letter Ready>, but nothing come out !!

I think something need to be done in /etc/printcap file.  Any input will be
highly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Happy Holiday !! :)


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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: ahill@boi.hp.com (Andy Hill)
Subject: Re: Question: LaserJet motherboard upgrade
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:10:14 GMT
Reply-To: ahill@boi.hp.com
Organization: LaserJets by Bill & Dave
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

troberts@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu wrote:
> I have a LaserJet II that still runs in pristine condition, but its
> limitations are starting to show.  I was wondering about the 
> possibility of upgrading the motherboard to that of a LJ3 or LJ4.  
> What's the word on the net about this possibility?  
> Would it be cost-effective?
LJ4 - no chance.  HP used to offer a II->III upgrade, but it's been
discontinued, and wasn't particularly cost effective (it normally
made more sense to sell the II, and buy a new III).  There may still
be some third-party upgrades available, but keep in mind you should
be able to get at least $500 for your LJII, and street price on
the LJ4 is $1300-1400 these days.

> Can the LJ2 hardware support the new features of the LJ4?
Nope.
From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:41:43 GMT
Subject: Re: thinking of buying HP 3P+ printer, good idea??
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers

> I'm thinking of buying a HP 3P+ printer which I will hook up to my 486 PC.
> I may buy the postscript cartrige in the near future. Is this a good
> printer? Comments, criticisms, etc. are greatly welcomed. 

I have a 3P with postscript at home.  So far, it has been great.  I am
using it mainly with FrameMaker.  It is not built for big jobs, but for
the size of jobs I have at home (> 10 pages) , it has worked well.

Depending on how you will be using it, be aware that the "large" paper
tray is usually considered an option.  I know someone who does not have
one and insists that he doesn't need it.

Disclaimer:  While I work at HP, it is far from the land of printers.
	     I don't speak for HP, PRO or you local retailer.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Campbell                Some times I wish that I could stop you from
campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Hewlett Packard                                    - Elvis Costello
From: mtilmes@access.digex.com (Mark Tilmes)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Looking for large format printer
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:28:17 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

We are looking for a printer that will print on 15 inch wide by
18 1/4 inch long plain paper.  It must have a bin sheet feeder, 2 bins
is preferable.  We need to print text and OCR fonts in portrait and
landscape modes.  It can be dot matrix, inkjet or laser.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

Mark Tilmes           email: mtilmes@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers