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From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: OJANEN/RUUTTU?
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:38:01 GMT


Hi!

Any information about Janne Ojanen (NJ Devils?) would be
highly appreciated! I really wish good luck to Janne, because
he is very talented player (my opinion). If he only could keep
on the right spirit...
And what about Christian Ruuttu (Chicago)?
Anyway, maybe the defeat in Tampa wasn't his fault... But I would
be very surprised if Ruuttu could find some success in his new team.

Hannu Hietanen

PS. I think that Chris Kontos played here for Ilves (Tampere) some years ago.
    His credit was something like 16 goals in 44 games (?). He wasn't
    any 'superstar', but I think that the management was quite satisfied
    with his performance.

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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: Wings1-Jets4
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:23:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.234408.1668@tac.fi> tiok_jtk@tac.fi writes:
>Name is Teemu Sel{nne (Selaenne? Does anybody know how it is printed on
>his back?) and if I know right, he assisted two goals...and you're
>right, he will be a canditate in rookie of the year chase. But I think
>"Big Eric" will be more famous than Teemu, because he is Canadian and
>Teemu is only "somebody from a strange country"...
>

They are spelling his name Selanne (only missing the two dots above the a).
If he continues to play the way he did against Detroit, I don't think it
will matter if he's from a 'strange country' or not. 

     Daryl
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bufallo goalies
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:18:40 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <EeqnP3600UhWA5V4Z_@andrew.cmu.edu> dk41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Dan Kodesh) writes:
>
>   What's the goalie situation in Buffalo?
>
>   I know they sent down Malarchuk, which leaves Hasek, Draper, and Puppa.
>  Does anyone know who's No. 1, 2 and three? OR who's gotten playing
>time and who hasn't?

The paper said that Puppa is looking like the winner of the Great Buffalo
Goalie Sweepstakes.

The fact that he's in goal right now against the Pens would seem
to bear that up.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (ROBERT HILL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pacifiers in honor of Lindros
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:02:12 GMT
Reply-To: phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: The unofficial LSU news node
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26312]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

In article <MACRO.92Oct13113243@hpcobr30.cup.hp.com>, macro@cup.hp.com 
(Patrick MacRoberts) writes...
> 
>> I understand that at tonight's Flyers/Nordiques game in Le Colisee,
>> Quebec City radio station CHIK will be handing out pacifiers to the
>> first 3000 fans who think Eric is a big baby.
> 
>One wonders if they'll be handing out duncecaps if the fans think
>Quebec Management are big idiots for drafting him in the first
>place...

    Just how does anybody figure the Quebec management for idiots here?
If they didn't draft Lindros, they would have drafted Pat Falloon, the 
consensus 2nd choice in the 1991 draft. Instead, they have Ricci, 
Duchesne, Huffman, Hextall, Forsburg and one more player to come. As good 
as Falloon is, I'll take the six players without a moment's thought. 
Quebec management made the right decision in drafting Lindros.

Bob
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Kings vs. Red Wings - Oct. 8
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:18:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Is it deja vu?  This game seemed to have many of the same qualities as 
the Pittsburgh/Philadelphia game, however, the Kings did not fare
as well as Philadelphia.

In their game against Pittsburgh, Philadelphia had a disallowed goal
and so did the Kings with that atrocious call by Van Hellemond
disallowing Dave Taylor's goal (the tv replay proved that the goal
was good, however, the rule book did not allow for a decision by
the replay judge in that particular instance -- maybe it's time
for revision of the rule book?).  By the way, that goal would have
had the game tied up 4-4 in the third period.

The second similarity was the mediocre play by the Kings in the first
two periods with an incredible resurgence in the third to almost tie
the game (similar to Philadelphia's comeback in the third period
against Pittsburgh -- although they DID end up in a tie game!). However, it
did not help that Tony Granato was out of the game with a strained
back (is this an epidemic?), Tomas Sandstrom left in the middle of
the game with a concussion as a result of a hard check, and John
McIntyre was not dressed for the game. (I hope this is not another
year of the "Young and Injured").

And did anybody else watching the Kings game think that Hrudey's  
goaltending was less than wonderful?  He let shots get by that 
never would have got past him last season (but maybe I'm being
too harsh).  What do others think?

Even though there is still some work to do with the young players, 
the level of play from Lang and Rychel last night was inspiring. I
also think the best trades the Kings have made in the last year are 
the ones resulting in the acquisition of Millen and Conacher who work
really hard on the ice and provide a grit and determination that
was lacking in the demeanor of the Kings most of last year.

Any additional comments/flames/corrections welcome :-) 

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!!!!!
(Tomas, Tony, Brent, Wayne -- Get Well Soon!)

--
From: clare@bissun.kodak.com (Bill Clare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:43:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Oct13.164343.18197
Distribution: na
Organization: Eastman Kodak


A post in this thread named Vancouver as one of the original expansion
teams.  They were not. The expansions were as follows:
67-68: St. Louis, Minnesota, Los Angeles, Oakland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh
70-71: Buffalo, Vancouver
72-73: Atlanta, Long Island
74-75: Washington, Kansas City
79-80: WHA expansion: Edmonton, Quebec, Hartford, Winnipeg
91-92: San Jose
92-93: Ottawa, Tampa Bay

Oakland changed names a few times; to California (also, name changed from
Seals to Golden Seals) before moving to Cleveland (Barons) before folding
(players became property of the North Stars)

Atlanta moved to Calgary, and of course Long Island isn't refered to as such
but as New York.

Kansas City (Scouts) moved to Colorado (Rockies) before finally moving
to New Jersey.

Hartford was known as "New England" in the WHA.  I'll bet the reason for the
name change upon entry to the NHL was Boston taking issue with it, but I
don't actually know this to be true.

billc
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Any opinions expressed herein belong to me and not to my employer.
From: currie@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Currie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Peter Stastny
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:07:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

I haven't seen Stastny's name in any summaries.  Is he still
with the Devils?

Kim
From: db74+@andrew.cmu.edu (Derrick J. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: AHL NEWSLETTER!!
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:22:41 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Announcing the American Hockey League mailing list! If you'd be
interested in subscribing to the AHL mailing list, send email to
ahl-news-request@andrew.cmu.edu
Posts can be sent to ahl-news@andrew.cmu.edu
Questions can be sent to me, db74@andrew.cmu.edu

Any and all relevant posts are welcome. Also, the East Coast Hockey
League mailing list is back for a second season. You can subscribe to
that list by sending email to echl-news-request@andrew.cmu.edu, and
posts to that list go to echl-news@andrew.cmu.edu

Thanks,
-D

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From: tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: American Born
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:56:52 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland


My friends and I never agree on one thing: Who's the best American born
hockey player. There are a number of strong possibilities, but I think
that its a tossup between Jeremy Roenick and Pat Lafontaine. Different
styles, but both very effective. There are strong arguments for Jimmy
Carson, Brian Leetch and Phil Housley as well. Leetch is without
question the best defenceman ever produced by the U.S. , if not by
anywhere, but as far as forwards go, I'll stick with Pat and Jeremy.
I also think that Richter is the best goalie.
         tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
              Tim Connors
P.S. For the record, Brett Hull was born in Canada.
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From: paul@maunakea.Data-IO.COM (Paul Brownlow)
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.161746.2441@convex.com>, george glover <gglover@convex.COM> writes:
|> 
|> The Minnesota North Stars were one of the six original expansion teams along
|> with Pittsburgh, St.Louis, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Vancouver.  I  
|> believe that the Cleveland Barons were an AHL team.  Although I am not sure
|> they may have been a WHA (remember them) team.

Vancouver was not part of the original expansion; Oakland/California was.
The Canucks entered the league in 1970 along with Buffalo.  There were 
Baron teams in the WHA and the NHL - the NHL team was the relocated 
California Seals.  The Barons then merged with Minnesota.
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From: hight@erg.sri.com (John Hight)
Subject: Re: Congrats to Ottawa, too!
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:12:53 GMT

In article <Bvv1wG.Kqo.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>How long did it take the Sharks to win their first game?  I'm not
>belittling the Sharks, I'm just curious.

The Sharks won their first game of the season last night (Oct 8),
exactly one year to the day after they won their first ever NHL game.
I believe the Sharks first game last year was Oct 4 or 5, so it didn't
take long at all to win their first game in 91.
-- 
John Hight, SRI International	hight@sri.com	415-859-4279
From: gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: 2 shows in 1 night!!!!!
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:08:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92283.001940RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>BALDWIN  - Before the game, there was an interview with Baldwin and they asked
>           him about all the owners criticizing him paying Lemieux so much in
>           a small market town.  (But a note here - this is a small market
>           baseball town - not a small market hockey town.  The season ticket
>           waiting list is 3 years for hockey.) 

That has nothing to do with it.  Pittsburgh is now only the 21st biggest
market in the country.  This affects how much money they can get from
their television and radio contracts, and how much they can charge for
advertising.  For instance, for the years prior to the Cup-winning
seasons, the Pens got virtually nothing for their KBL contract.  You
read that correctly---almost nothing.  It was good exposure for them,
but they made little or no dough from it.  They probably make something
from it now, but I guarantee you it is chicken feed compared to what the
Flyers, for example, get from their similar deal.  The number of
bandwagon fans on the waiting list is irrelevant.

rick

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Help wanted: Goaltender's name
Keywords: Golatender, Quebec, Bruins 73 shots
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:35:53 GMT

In article <16694@bcars664.bnr.ca> daoust@bcarh13c.bnr.ca (Claude D'Aoust) writes:
>Question: who was the Quebec Nordiques goaltender who faced 73 shots
>yet gave up only 3 goals against the Bruins in a 3-2 loss? Was it
>Ron Tugnutt or Scott Gordon? 
>

Ron Tugnutt

>Speaking of Tugnutt, anybody knows where he is nowadays? 

He's currently backing up Bill Ranford, but there is a lot of
talk that the Oilers don't want a moderately expensive backup
goaltender, and that Sather looking to trade him.

I could see Ron Tugnutt ending up in Boston or Buffalo...
especially Buffalo, if none of their goaltenders distinguish
themselves by mid-season.  I have heard some Ron Tugnutt for
Dave Cooper rumours already.

Gerald
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From: jdraves@hydro1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Draves)
Subject: Re: NHL video game(s)
Reply-To: jdraves@hydro1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Draves)
Organization: NASA/GSFC Hydrospheric Sciences Branch
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:36:00 GMT

We did our 335 with Edmonton taking on the Red Wings.  Steve Smith I believe
had 8 fights all by himself.  We've also done 300 with the Penguins against
the Devils.  Actually it was an All Star Team game that got us on our 300 kick.
Before then we considered 200 to be a great game then we got 271 with the ALL
STARS & realized 300 was possible.  Now if we don't get 275 we're disappointed.

The role playing sounds interesting, but our style now is everyone on
the ice is
a potential thug.  Wayne Gretzky, the fighting machine!

JD
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN shoots and scores on the opening night
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:29:38 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Distribution: na
Organization: The Bates Motel

nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
>
>The reason why Bill Clement was put behind the studio desk and not 
>in the broadcasting booth as the game analyst is quite simple - 
>ESPN doesn't want anyone in a SportsChannel carryover role.

I dunno ... Gary Thorne is still the play-by-play announcer for the
Devils whenever he's not doing ESPN games ... then again, Thorne's
second (first?) fulltime job is already with ESPN (baseball, college
basketball).

gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare				
> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
From: bnc@portia.si.macsch.com (Brian Casey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: If I were Neil Smith...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:10:25 GMT
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation

In article <3038@mdavcr.mda.ca> hp@mdavcr.mda.ca (Hossein Parandeh) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.160006.4139@draco.macsch.com> bnc@portia.si.macsch.com (Brian Casey) writes:
>>
>>	1. Robitaille was just named captain of the Kings, and even before
>>       that he is as untouchable as Gretzky.  Besides his obvious hockey
>>       talent, hockey in LA needs a marquee player, and right now Luc is
>>       the man.
>>
>Nobody is untouchable in the NHL, even Wayne and Mario. The right deal comes
>along and the guy is gone.

Granted - that's why I said he's "as untouchable as Gretzky".

Brian Casey
bnc@macsch.com
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: LIGHTNING NEWS: Chi vs. TB 10/7, Hamrlik Contract
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:34:12 GMT

spiegel@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel) wrote:
>In article <1992Oct8.212635.12057@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>>Just hours before faceoff, the Lightning came to terms with defenseman Roman
>>Hamrlik, the top selection in June's NHL entry draft. Hamrlik, 18, who played
>>for ZPS Zlin in Czechoslovakia last season, signed a 3-year deal worth $1.5
>>million. The contract is $500,000 more than San Jose paid last year's first
>                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>pick, Pat Falloon.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>	I think U have forgotten Eric Lindros, who was the first round
>	pick last year.  Falloon was taken second in the draft.  Quebec
>	had the first pick.

U = the local paper. Those weren't my words. However, if you asked me (and you
didn't), I would say Falloon was the 1st pick too. Quebec 0 out of their pick
until a year later. Lindros is still a butt-head for doing that. Let's hope
the NHL never receives a scar like that ever again (or the strike) under the
new management. Oh well, that's an old topic.

Also, to be picky, Pat Falloon WAS SJ's first pick. It didn't say the NHL's.
I guess you can argue either way.

Tom
From: nixdorf@bonmot (Eric Nixdorf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Don Cherry's Coaches corner - Nov 10, 1992
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:51:49 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


     Interesting thing I noticed last evening about Coach's Corner.  I have
a satellite dish and in the past when there have been multiple games broadcast
across Canada, Coach's Corner has been live for the first game to reach inter-
mission, and been played on tape for the other games if they reach intermission
later.
     Not so last night.  Last night, with the long opening ceremonies at the
Vancouver-Edmonton and Montreal-Pittsburgh matchups, the Toronto-Calgary game
reached intermission first, Coach's Corner was live, with Ron McLain getting
his ending zinger in and Cherry having the "geez, this guy zings me and I can't
say anything in response because we have to go" look on his face.
     Well, I switched over to the Vancouver-Edmonton game to watch the end of
the first period, and they also had a live Coach's Corner there, no tape! 
Different backround, McLain and Cherry were standing for this one, for the
earlier one they sat in their normal studio.  Said same basic things, a few
variations, nothing significant.  And at the end, McLain had his zinger, this
time Cherry had a "geez, this guy zings me, I've *heard* this one already, and
I *still* can't say anything in response because we have to go" look on his
face.  Classic, love Cherry.  Wish just once Cherry would get an equally good
zinger back (that, and tape of Blue pissing on a bottle of Molson ;-).

					Eric
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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: What's the deal on that Pens Logo?
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:57:16 GMT


I was well aware that the Pens had changed logos following the 'ol Stanley 
Cup win, but after getting my first glimpse of the new design last night, 
the question that pops to mind is "what moron got a hold of the Pen at 
decision time?"

Warren
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: chin836@SKDAD.USASK.CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Poor attendance in Saskatoon
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:58:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.220225.12556@cs.tulane.edu> phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>    What happened? I would have expected the games in Saskatoon to sell
>out. There has certainly been interest up there in getting a franchise and
>I know there are a lot more than 11,500 hockey fans in the area. So why
>didn't they show up?

I am glad to see that the game didn't sell out; it would give NHL moguls
perverse ideas of placing an NHL franchise in Saskatoon, something which will
never happen under the current board of governors structure anyway.  NHL owners
and players are driving the business of hockey to unprecedented heights of
greed, which makes it unaffordable for common folks to take in a game on a
family night out.  The NHL in Saskatoon would kill the two junior teams based in
this city, and then take off when the city can't support more than one
millionaire player.  Edmonton has more than four times our population, and the
Oilers are having trouble signing players coming off above-average seasons.

I am satisfied with the current hockey situation in Saskatoon and Saskatchewan.
Our province is home to five teams in the Western Hockey League compared to six
for Alberta, B.C., and Manitoba combined.  We produce the players so they can
star in the big show.  I have no problem with that.  An IHL minor league team
wouldn't be bad, but that won't happen, either.

As for the attendance, it didn't help that the Flyers-Quebec game was on TSN the
same night.  Also, ticket prices ranged from C$20 to C$35 + service charge,
which is obscene for one hockey game in my books.  Another reason is our poor
economy; bankruptcies are up and unemployment is near 10%.  Times are tough
unless you're an NHL owner or player.

McNall's marketing outfit is also taking Saskatoon hockey fans for granted;
some of the teams scheduled to play here are Minnesota, Hartford, and Ottawa.
Saskatoon is essentially the dumping ground for games that won't sell in the US.


Glenn
From: nagy@pl1.cs.psu.edu (Gregory Nagy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Media blasts Craig Patrick
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:29:01 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <7103@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle) writes:
>In article <wep6Pie00iUxI2zG1z@andrew.cmu.edu> am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas) writes:
>>
>>I'm reprinting this article (WITHOUT PERMISSION) from the Oct 8th issue
>>of the Pittsburgh  Post-Gazette newsfax.  I'm doing this for the benefit
>>of those who are interested in a perspective on Patrick's "last minute"
>>coaching
>>decision.  This is just one man's opinion but I think it's -- uh --
>>interesting.  (In the interest of time I'm not capitalizing or proofreading,
>>so bear with me.)
>
>(Patrick-bashing article from Pgh media deleted)
>
>Generally, I do agree with the tenet that Patrick is arrogant and
>unquestionably obnoxious in the way he deals with the rest of the
>world.  I recall that this was one of his problems in NY, and the
>media took delight in bashing him all over the place, no doubt 
>because he treated them in the same inconsiderate way that he deals
>with our media.  He'll get away with it around here just so long as
>he keeps winning, since everyone loves a winner (sort of), and
>because our media folks aren't too quick to criticize, by and large.
>He'll be an easy target once they start to lose, though, and they
>WILL start losing eventually, sooner or later.
>

     Pgh media? Blame a "winner"? Never... Lets face it... Dan Rooney
and Chuck Noll were downright nasty when it came to resigning people, 
yet they could do no harm in a union town like Pittsburgh, so long as
they kept winning. So long as there is a powerhouse team in the igloo, 
Patrick and Baldwin's actions will never be overly questioned in
Pittsburgh. 

>
>rick


-- 
Greg Nagy   nagy@cs.psu.edu   nagy@love-shack.com   GGN100@psuvm.psu.edu

"I draw the line a styrofoam kernals, you pervert!" -- Jeff
From: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: **FOR SALE** Protective gear
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:16:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Oct12.001616.20267
Reply-To: pv9955@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany

I played hockey for less than one year, when I was about 15 years old.
Now, I have hundreds of dollars worth of protective equipment that I no
longer need.
At the time, I was about 5' tall and about 110 lbs.  
The gear consists of full protective equipment, all top quality stuff.
I don't know the current value of the equipment, but it cost about $350
five years ago, and it is still in NEW condition.
I received several responses asking for the gloves and knee pads, when I
posted this advertisement several months ago.
I would prefer not to separate the package for little items like that.
If anybody would like to ask any questions, or make any offers, please
EMail me at PV9955@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
Thanks ,
Peter
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