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From: Emmett.Sauer@f215.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Emmett Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Getting /Image for .97
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 00:36:00 -0800

JB> From: jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
JB> Apart from getting the source how can I get the /Image file for
JB> 0.97.1
JB> rootimage?  I installed it on my hard drive and everything
You can 'freq' from my system or if you have FTP capabilities from
TSX-11.MIT.EDU.

emmett@tenet.edu                    Advanced BBS
                                   (512) 578-2720
                                   Fido 1:3802/215
                                     Freq "LINUX"
                                    for Fileslist


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: floppy bootstrap problem
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:54:44 GMT

Try reformatting the floppy, *then* doing the rawrite.  It should
work then.  Seems that linus is very sensitive to marginally
written formatting info...or maybe it's just my floppy drive...:)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Two suggestions .. comments welcome, please!
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:51:55 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Sep9.050138.3606@utdallas.edu>, yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu) writes:

| How about a program to 'edit' (alter) the boot image to suit you?
| I'm uploading such a program to SunSite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming, 
| called chbootdev.tar.Z. You exec it in linux and will get what you want.
| Note that it does NOT edit the floppy, but the bootimage itself.
| There's a README in the file for a bit more detail. 

  Or you could use the BPE (binary patch editor) program which works
nicely, thanks. The source was uploaded to tsx-11 and banjo (yes that
long ago) and the DOS binary is on most of the DOS arcives (I posted it
several years ago to cbip).

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: drmo@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: GCC missing file?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:52:51 -0500

Where do I find the file    0.97inc.tar.Z       for GCC.

I can't find it at tsx-11, and the GCC install script dies when
it gets to that file.

Thanks.

Drew Moseley
From: blee@halon.dfrf.nasa.gov (Bryson Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: lilo help!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:43:52 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA

Here's my situation:  I have installed the full SLS distribution onto the 
second partition of my first IDE hard drive.  I believe this version to be
rev 0.96c_pl2.  I'd like to be able to boot either DOS 5.0 (which resides on
the first partition of my first drive) or Linux.

I have the binaries for lilo version 4, and the source for lilo version 5
(BTW, the v5 source failed compilation with a simple "make" -- I didn't really
look to hard at it after that.)  After a "make install" to put the executable
v4 where it wanted to be, I tried one of the test setups in the README -- boot
from a floppy with the image and root fs on the hard drive (the second of the 
two example setups, I think).  Lilo refused to write anything to the disk, 
complaining (I think) that it didn't recognize the boot record.  I tried disks
formatted under DOS (both bootable and non-bootable), and using fdformat (as
well as fdformat --> mformat).

Since I couldn't test the program in a "safe" way, I'm unwilling to let it
overwrite my MBR, so I guess my questions break down in the following way:

1.  Should I even be trying to use lilo with this version of Linux? (The 
README says 0.96c_pl1 or better, but...)

2.  If I can use lilo, I'd appreciate someone amplifying the instructions in 
the README for me.  There was a mention in an earlier article of an excellent
posting containing lilo instructions.  I either missed it, or wasn't actually
running Linux at the time, so a repost or mailing of the text would be great.

3.  If I CAN'T (or shouldn't) use lilo, then I'd appreciate some advice on
whether to try shoelace or the pfdisk-->BOOTACTV route.

Once again, thanks in advance!!

Bryson Lee
blee@halon.dfrf.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: running high speed modems under *nix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:42:17 GMT

Gregory O. Harp (harp@netcom.com) wrote:

: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger) writes:
: 
: >The probably biggest problem with high baud rates (>38400) is, that there's
: >no standard interface to select them.
: 
: Remember we're not talking about a real-time OS here, either.  Even
: with the 16550's FIFO the response time might be slow enough that
: you'd be dropping bytes all over the place.
: 
: In other words, I'd be extremely surprised to see anything faster than
: 38.4K actually work under Linux or any Unix running on an i[34]86.  On
: a loaded-down system, no way.  Remember, the serial buffers are sort
: of small, too.  It might be nice to be able to re-size them, or simply
: re-compile the kernel to default to larger ones. (Maybe you can do
: this and I simply haven't looked...)

I looked at this some months ago.  You *can* go as high as 115K, but you
have to do a little mucking around with the kernel (minor) and some muching
around with tty*.h.  The only problem is, there isn't enough bits in the
word to set all the baud rates.  You either have to be very selective
about the baud rates you want to support, or you have to chop off some of
the lower speeds.

BTW, I tried 38400 between two systems running 0.97p2 a couple of weekends
ago.  It worked .. barely.  I had to drop back to 19200 to get it to work
reliably - of course, I was only running 16450's.  You might be able to
run 38400 between two systems running 16550's, but I'm not sure.  It's
more doubtful if you could run any faster.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian Parkin)
Subject: U\*nx Book for DOS usr | newbie 
Distribution: world
Organization: Twod's Software Factory
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:30:12 +0000


In article <1992Sep6.062601.236666@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:

>
>>>Saw your request inquiring about a U*ix book for beginners.
--
Ian Parkin, twod@socrates.demon.co.uk

A "small" book that I like is

Newnes Unix Pocket Book

By Steve Heath

Published by Butterworth-Heinemann

ISBN 0-7506-0391-7

12.95 ( UK Sterling )

Small, concise, and not waffly !

IAP
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Where is GDB v4.6? (Was Re: gcc install doc
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:17:41 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1597@lysator.liu.se> lien@lysator.liu.se (Jan Lien) writes:
>-  where I find gdb

I uploaded 4.6 compiled w/shared libraries to tsx-11.mit.edu and
sunsite.unc.edu.  On sunsite it is in
/pub/Linux/development/gdb-4.6j.tar.Z.  I don't know where it is on
tsx-11.

BTW, to anyone interested, I was poking around with this gdb on 0.97 Pl
#4 and it seemed to work fine.

Later,
Brendan
-- 
Brendan B. Boerner		Phone: 512/346-8380
Internet: bboerner@novell.com	MHS: bboerner@novell
Please use ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if replying by mail.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Want to buy a linux PC...
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:47:41 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <BuAoHr.2q0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth) writes:

| At this stage in the game, for about $800, you get about 8 time the 
| performance... and the ability to later pop in an 'overdrive chip' and
| have a 486dx2/100...   
| 
| Of course, prices are still falling rapidly... so you might want to wait a
| few months... 

a) Intel has not promised the 50/100, nor delivered many of the 33/66
chips. I wouldn't hold my breath until you get this upgrade. I bought a
33 to be able to use the 33/66 chip, but it may be a year before you can
buy the chip without a computer around it. Of course I might know
someone, but the average person isn't going to do that.

b) If you're into waiting you could hold out for the P5 chip, that will
finally ship right after Linux 2.0.

  In my opinion the time to buy a computer is when you need it and have
the money. Price will always go down, performance will always go up, and
there's little reason to think that this will change.

  Also remember that some vendors will lie about when they are going to
ship that new faster chip, just to keep you from buying a faster
competitor's chip. Others will just be optimists about delivery and
still not meet ship dates, and a few others will actually ship what and
when they promise. All this makes waiting for new chips a real gamble.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Subject: Poor performance for DOSFS.
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:20:52 GMT

Hi,

I just tried using DOSFS, and what I noticed is that when I write a
large file the performance is really bad. (I'm trying to backup my
linux partition: I've created space on my msdos partition and would 
like to be able to write a 40M tar file there.)

Anyway, performance starts around 200k per 10 seconds (not very good, 
but livable) and drops to 30k per 10 seconds when the file is about
10M long. 

Does anybody else experience these problems? Does anybody have a fix?

						Roger. 

-- 
****   a 486 in V86 mode is like a VW buggy with a 6 litre V12 motor.  ****
EMail:  wolff@duteca.et.tudelft.nl   ** Tel  +31-15-783644 or +31-15-142371
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: How to boot a SCSI drive (w/ a WD7000 FASST)
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:32:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.014215.11539@muddcs.claremont.edu> jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
>
>My reasons for using LILO instead of DOS+bootlin
>
[ lots of good reasons for using lilo, deleted...]
>
>Since I boot DOS so rarely, I see no reason to have to ever boot into
>DOS, even just to bootstrap Linux, especially since that adds another
>step for errors to appear.
>

For six months I booted linux from a floppy and dos form my hard disk...
now I use lilo to boot linux from my hard disk and dos from a floppy :)

give lilo another chance ed, you will like it...

js  who_reads_raw_LATEX_source_just_fine_thankyou
From: eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Oops. (cdrom-0.4a.tar.Z)
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:31:11 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory


	The diffs in the cdrom-0.4.tar.Z distribution are screwed up, and
should not be used.  I have uploaded a file, cdrom-0.4a.tar.Z which has
correct diffs.  Currently it is in the main ftp directory on tsx-11, and I
expect that it will be moved to the pub/linux/ALPHA/cdrom directory sometime
soon.

--
Eric Youngdale
eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Bram)
Subject: Re: DR-DOS and linux boot, 14 char filenames
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:32:30 GMT


Hi,

[Remy CARD on the subject of filename length:]

>        Note that the limitation to 255 character is not really needed: with
>1k blocks, we could limit the file names to 1012 characters (the header of a
>directory entry is 8 bytes long) but I think that 255 is quite enough.

255 long enough?
Hell no...
Watch what happened to me...
This is a listing of one of my directories:

total 332
drwx------  2 stolk         512 Aug 24 15:19 ./
drwxr-xr-x 14 stolk        1024 Sep  8 12:53 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 stolk        1581 Jan 26  1992 4d
-rw-------  1 stolk        2617 Jun 18  1991 authors.sw
-r--r--r--  1 stolk        6224 Aug 27  1991 clock.exe
-r--r--r--  1 stolk        3139 Aug 27  1991 clock.pas
-rw-r--r--  1 stolk        2865 Jun  4 10:38 install.X11
-rw-r--r--  1 stolk        6634 Nov 14  1991 models.3d
-rw-------  1 stolk        3954 Feb 27  1992 sigs
-rw-------  1 stolk      301325 Sep  8  1992 linux.src.ver.0.97.patchlevel.4.betarelease.use.at.your.own.risk.released.at.8.september.includes.mem_manager.filesyst.extended_filesystem.kernel.internet_drivers.and.X11.support.with_shared_libs_for_use_with_gcc.2.2.2.d.p3.tar.arc.zip.lha.zoo.arj.bak.old

Now at this directory I did:

% compress linux.*

And guess what?
'compress' messed up my files, because the .Z couldnt be added to the
filename again.
Could someone please remove that horrible 255 char limit? :-)

By the way, about something totaly different.
Are there any other people experiencing the same weird thing
as I do, when I boot Linux?
I get:

>   oading...................
>  L

The dropped L..., is it caused by the antique EGA-card I am using?

	Take care you all, 'n keep up the great work,


				Bram Stolk
				stolk@fwi.uva.nl
From: pete@q106fm.UUCP (pete cervasio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Major/Minor numbers
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 13:35:30 CDT
Organization: WKBQ-FM Engineering Department

jem@vipunen.hut.fi (Johan Myreen) writes:

> >Actually, the last draft of the device-naming standard I saw from the
> >Linux Standards list had /dev/bm = 10,0.  I think this should be
> >updated to:
> >
> >bm-l	10, 0 c		logitech bus mouse
> >bm-p	10, 1 c		ps/2 mouse
> >bm-m	10, 2 c		microsoft bus mouse
... some stuff deleted ...
> A PS/2 mouse is *not* a bus mouse, you connect it into a connector
> which goes to the "Keyboard/Auxiliary Device Controller". This is the
> name IBM's Technical Reference uses, and that's why I called the
> device /dev/psaux. The interface is specifically meant for pointing
... more stuff deleted ...
> It would also be more logical if the similar Microsoft and Logitech
> bus mice would be grouped together as 0 and 1, and the PS/2 mouse
> would use minor number 2. But it is perhaps too late to change that?

When I hacked Derrick Cole's hack of Teemu Ratanen's Microsoft busmouse
driver into the kernel, this crossed my mind (the minor number thing).
I didn't want to break anyone's system, though, so I just used the next
available minor device number.  The ideal thing would have been being
able to use the same minor device as the Logitech.

Unfortunately, the Logitech driver thinks it detects a Logitech mouse
when it's looking at a Microsoft mouse, but the driver code doesn't work
with it. I also don't know the proper way to detect a MS mouse by
reading/writing to the mouse ports.  I would single-step through
mouse.com but it's copyrighted code, and I don't want to jeapordize
(sp?) Linux by doing something stupid like getting Microsoft on our
butts.  I'm writing a letter to Microsoft to see if they'll supply some
information on how to properly detect a MS mouse.  If they won't, I'll
just have to start experimenting...

Additionally, I think the reason the PS/2 mouse type is being called a
bus mouse is because: (1) there are two main "types" of mice... serial
and bus, and (2) it's not a serial mouse.  (Although some of the "bus"
mice out there are really serial mice, using a non-standard serial port
card.

Thanks for the comments on mice.  You've got my brain working on it
again, and I've started jotting things down in my notebook to look at
later.  :-)

Pete C.

+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Pete Cervasio                | pete%q106fm.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu     |
| I fish, therefore I am.      | pete.cervasio@f1.n2250.z1.fidonet.org |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  If you think of C as a preprocessor for your assembler, it makes    |
|                   just as little sense as before.   (me)             |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fink@Think.COM (Paul Fink)
Subject: gs241 & ghostview
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:31:15 GMT

I'm trying to get ghostview runing. I'm at .95c.
For the most part gs and ghostview both compiled fine and work
except for figures of any complexity gs bombs.

Any suggestions?

Paul
From: frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Using SZ and RZ with Kermit
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:42:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1431
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science

Hello,

I've downloaded the rzsz9202.tar-z file. The rzsz9202.README file says that the
make file includes a make for Linux - it doesn't, the only OSes included are
Xenix, BSD, etc., but not Linux. I tried to compile both RZSZ and Procomm, but
on compilation I get warning about some SIGNAL and about a passing argument - 
sorry I'm not very knowledgeable in C and Linux (UNIX in general). I'd love some
help. I've seen people on the net saying that they use KERMIT to dial-in, and
then some how use SZ and RZ to transfer files. This maybe a FAQ, but I'd like to 
ask how this is done. 

THank you in advance,

-- 

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From: visnurpk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS mail problem
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

   I'm running Linux 0.97pl4 without any problems, and used the SLS system
to get all the utilities/compiler/goodies.  Recently I've been testing the
mail system (UUCP/smail/Elm) and it has been working perfectly from the
'root' account, but when you try sending mail from any other account it
fails.  Elm allows you to edit/send a message, and it seems to send the
message properly, but the mailboxes remain empty.  Since it worked with
root I figured it must be a problem with protection, but I checked and it
is setup properly.  Anyone have any ideas?  I'm still relatively new to
UN*X (but learning, thanks to Linux) so forgive my ignorance.  Also, I'm
using the system right out of the package (ie. no modifications, not using
UUCP).  Thanks!

-Rich

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From: visnurpk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: JOVE Instead (Re: SLS/GCC/Emacs Question(s))
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <trussell.715988619@cwis>, trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes...
>visnurpk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin) writes:
>>2) I tryed to run emacs after "sysinstall"ing it, and it complained about
>>   not having an X11 library in /lib.  When did Emacs start to need an X11
>>   library?  Just curious since I don't have X on any of the UN*X boxes I
>>   work with (yet) and I do have Emacs.

>    The upshot is, you need to install X as well, or at least grab the
>X libraries out of whichever of the higher disks they're on for emacs to
>run.  I also noticed that the standard lisp files aren't included, you'll
>have to grab them from an archive somewhere.

Thanks to the people who answered my original post (which I am responding to :-)
but I decided to remove Emacs and use JOVE instead.  Grabbed v4.14.7 added
the Linux patches + fixed a few "newer" things (prototypes) and created a
jove4147.taz file to use w/SLS sysinstall.  Works fine so far under v0.97pl4
of Linux.  Used JOVE with the older version, and am quite happy with it being
the "standard" editor.  Thanks again!

-Rich

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: man and xman
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 13:11:41 GMT

Hi.

	I have man pages working and xman also working nice. But I found that
if unless I have man pages in the man1...man9 directories, xman won't even
know it's there. With mcc interim, the man pages are in the cat1...cat9
directories so I tried linking things into man directories but then normal
man refuses to work...can someone help me set the thing up? Thanks very much
in advance.

Jae


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: X11: What is "Cannot convert string..."
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:07:49 GMT

In article <18m5bnINNkad@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mdr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Mark D. Rutherford) writes:
>
>A few of my X11 apps when executed, periodically give me this error:
>
>' Cannot convert string "...." to type FontStruct'
>
>What does this mean, and how can I fix it?
>
It means that the X server cannot find a font that is close enough to
the one described by "..." to use for you.  The fix depends on the application.
Do you have the 75dpi fonts installed? ... the application wouldn't perhaps
be xmahjongg would it? :-) ...

Generaly, this kind of problem comes from applications that try to
overspecify the values of their resources.  Good Xt Style suggests that
things like font names and colors be specified in application or user
defaults files (i.e. in app-defaults/ or in ~/.Xdefaults).  Applications
that ignore or override the customization mechanism usually do so for a
reason ... for example, xmahjongg loads it's playing tile images from
a custom "font" which must be installed.

If your application came with a file whose name ends in .bdf (binary 
distribution format) you can compile the font with /usr/bin/X11/bdftopcf.
Then place the .pcf font in a directory that is included in your fontpath
(as specified in Xconfig), and run /usr/bin/X11/mkfontdir in that directory.
mkfontdir updates the font database file to X.  The simple thing to do then
is to restart the X server ... and all should be well :-)

js