From: farkas@qual.Eng.Sun.COM (Frank Farkas)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Still no Retraction
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:28:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
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Reply-To: farkas@qual.Eng.Sun.COM
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>I didn't disappear friend. 

You said nothing at all why you were not responding until now. This is kind of
rude. Don't you think so?

> I stopped posting because I wanted to
>discuss the issue of God the Father, the first person of the Trinity.
>You kept wanting to divert the discussion into a discussion of Jesus,
>God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. 

You told everyone on this net that we Mormons are illogical to claim
that the Father has a body. I referred you to the fact that Jesus *is*
God and that he has a physical body. My discussion regarding Jesus having
a physical body was very relevent regarding this discussion.

> When I didn't allow you
>to do that, you tried to divert it into a discussion of the resurrection.

You didn't allow me to do that???? I have no idea that you have such control
over me.

>I didn't feel like shadow boxing, because you obviously wasn't
>interested in discussing the issue. 

I was very much interested in the issue. Unfortunately you are like a spoiled
brat who pouts when things don't go your way.

> I can understand why you wouldn't.

You asked for scriptural proof that the Father has a body. I pointed out that
it can't be proven with the Bible either one way or the other.
You agreed!  

Can you tell me why you were not responding to my answer to your request to show
indication in the Bible that the Father has a body?

Repeat starts******

Genesis 1:26
============
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:..."

More then likely you will say that it has nothing to do with physical 
apparence. But this is your interpretation and not mine. The Hebrew
does agree with my interpretation IMHO. 

Genesis 5:1&3
=============
"...In that day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;"

"And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his own image;..."

It is very significant that the same identical Hebrew word is used
when it talks about God making man in his image, and when Adam is described
begating his son in his image.

Is this a smoking gun, an over whelming proof that God the Father has a
body of flesh and bones? The answer is no! 

You already agreed with me that you can neither prove or dispove if God
the Father has a physical body or not by using the Bible. You interpret 
verses one way, and I interpreted in another way. This is why looking
at the God Jesus is so important. Much objection which is provided regarding
the possibility that God has a physical body falls apart when we look at
Jesus who does posses the fulness of God, yet he does have a physical body.

******Repeat ends

Can you tell me why you didn't respond to my request for you to give me a lesson
in Greek regarding the meaning of the word "one", as it is used in John chapter 17?
If you won't answer then I will, for I know why you have such a great difficulty
responding.

Repeat starts********

>You obviously are not very well learned in the area of Greek.  In the
>Kione Greek language, in which the NT is written, there are several
>different meanings for the word, "one".  However, in the English
>language, we have to use the same word.  The word "one" does mean the
>same thing is all instances of the Scritures.  Better get a Lexicon and
>and interlineal and check it out for yourself.  This argument cannot be
>supported in the Greek.

So, enlighten us.

********Repeat ends



With brotherly love,

		Frank