From: zaheer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Imrana Zaheer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Karachi.. mini-Pakistan or not
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: zaheer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Imrana Zaheer)
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Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: zaheer@daisy.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1992Apr6.032535.16317@acsu.buffalo.edu> memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed S. Memon) writes:
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> No flames. Well Ok! Mind if this Karachiite gives it a try. Since 
>Karachi has been at the receiving end as far as urbanization is 
>concerned and since all races and linguitic groups exist together, I 
>would say Ghaus Ali Shah was right when he said that Karachi is a 
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>mini-Pakistan.  But then he is said to have the IQ of a cucumber.
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 Are n't you contracting your own statement in the above lines with
 a non-convincing argument. By the way who says that GAS had the IQ
 of a cucumber, I guess a Ph.D. student with a agriculture major.


>If you ever apply techniques of experimental design on your final
>validated simulation model, then you may find that if one factor(one
>race, one linguistic minority) starves of resources(any sort of 
>resources needed by one group of people) then your simulation
>model should tell you that your system is quite inefficient.

 Before developing any simulation model, I guess the first step is
 to establish the correlation between the different variables. This
 is the technique I read in my sister's thesis for her master's degree.
 If we find that there is any correlation between the variable only then
 we apply the conditions and develop the simulation model. The simulation model
 only tells you the end result of change in initial conditions not THE
 STARVATION of resources.


> Therefore the
>collapse of social fiber in Karachi, though it did not need a 
>simulated environment to be figured out, presents the example of the
>lack of cohesive national forces and the heterogenous nature of the population
>that does not lose any oppurtunity to graps each others throats.


 This is where the simulation model comes into play. You develop a program
 to take into account various conditions and then see the effect fo changing
 the conditions in a much broader aspect.
 I saw a documentary on PBS
 where they showed the interviews with the professor in MIT who is doing
 resarch on simulation model to predict the behavior of world in future
 years.


>Any questions? Comments? Flames? 

I thought I had written everything in a good taste then why the above comment.
I leave it to the discretion of the readers to judge.

 Please don't response to my posting if you persist on writting the above
 comments.

>Huh! I get your point though you are missing one province :) Anyway,
>if it takes a netter to establish that "we are Pakistanis"  
>45 years after Pakistan's creation, I guess we have not really grown as
>people.


 How long did it take us for us the nation to realize that we got independence
 from the Britishers? I guess we have not even realize that.You can observe
 it yourself. We started to celebrate the independence day only recently..
 I mean when Zia-ul-Haq ordered the nation.


 Any comments Mr. Adil Najam?


Pakistan Zindabad

Pakistan is place to live...


Imrana[born in Pakistan, brought up in Karachi]Zaheer


>Since you made it clear that you don't want any flames I won't say 
>anything about your signature.

 Iam glad that you have made such a statement.

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>Naveed


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