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From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:23:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> I could see you in paris, 'LOOK MAN LOOK AT THE TOWER!!'  Referring
-> to the eiffel tower/
->
-> More like: "Look at HER TOWERS!" Refering to.... Ummmmm, well,
-> nevermind.....  :+)

I guess you would be on the beach most of the time, correct.  Have you
heard about the beaches.  The have in their bill of rights, freedom to
show everything.  and after that one, freedom to wear no bra in public
places.  On the average 50% of the local girls under 30, dont wear bras.
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Re: The good old days
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:31:03 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network


   The Round Table doesn't exist I don't think. 

   Paul Larkin is probably in jail. Wouldn't surprise me none.

   Contact sysadmin@ids.net to find some of those people. They might 
   be online there now. The RT was a 789 exchange, right?



                                    - Drummer -
From: 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: peace sells ... but where do I buy?
Date: 5 Sep 92 12:35:38 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia


Does anyone know why MegaDeth have deleted
'Peace sells ... but who's buying?' from
their Australian market?  Is this a worldwide
deletion (is it still available in the states?)

So far so good so what is still everywhere, so I
was wondering if the songs like 'the conjuring' and
'black friday' are at odds with their new
"environmentally friendly save the world, lose any
rough edges, and make a handsome profit" image.


What is happening to decent speed metal nowadays?
--


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From: RCM43863@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Ripp)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: BREADFAN lyrics sought
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:15:30 GMT

I seek the lyrix to Metallica's cover of Budgie's Breadfan......
please email your response...

(If someone could get me a basic chord overlay for the song I'd be grateful..
--CMR

   /--------------------------------------------------------------\
   | All things dead must rise again when twilight's blanket falls|
   | Splattered red you'll find my dead blood dripping from the walls|
   |--------------------------------------------------------------|
   | Chris Ripp who thinks any music that pisses someone else off |
   | qualifies as metal....                                       |
   \--------------------------------------------------------------/

 
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: c9221777@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Brother Redeye)
Subject: Re: Peace sells ... But Where Do I Buy?
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:32:34 GMT

Like myself you have made the mistake of living in Australia and wanting to
hear interesting music at the same time.  Peace sells is not available in
Australia under normal release BUT you can still get it from importers and so
on.  Your local record store may deal with an import company (Shock, Modern
Invasion Music, etc) in which case you should be able to get it for a mere arm
and a leg (plus a month or two wait).  I have made myself quite unpopular at a
couple of Newcastle store by repeatedly going in and asking for "obscure"
European bands that according to their lists didn;t even exist.  But thanks to
being continually annoyed my numerous people such as myself they now have a
small but growing import section.

If the local record store fails you might try hunting for a specialist import
store such as Utopia Records in Sydney.  Such places only charge a finger and
toe as opposed to a full arm and leg, and as they know what they are doing the
waiting period is generally quite short.  Utopia reckons they mail order
anywhere so flog a copy of Hot Metal and copy down their address from the ad if
nothing local exists.

Last but not least you can do what I did and buy the bastard overseas. Finding
CDs at half the price over there I found to be quoite overwhelming so I went on 
a bit of a spending orgy in Seattle.  Much fun.

Speed metal does still exist .... somewhere.  You may have to check out small
up and coming, unsigned, new bands but they are out there.  Check out any gigs
in your town - ther's bound to be a few sooner or later ad you may be
pleasantly surprised.

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: syped@orca.alaska.edu
Subject: Thanks guys let me explain .(RUSSIA)
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:35:06 GMT


  Privet Mugiki !
  (It means "Hi guys!" on russian)
  All I can say WOW WOW WOW WOOOOOOW!
  I didn't think that my message would make such effect!
  Thanks to all who sent me letters.I'm very glad to read it !
  It's just great we can contact this way via. computer.
  Now let me explain why you can see Alska address in my headers.
  I'm a student of International Pedagogical Univer. in Magadan (Russia).
  Just take a look on the map of world and you will see it is not far from
  Alaska (USA).We cooperate with Fairbanks University of Alaska and we have
  a mailbox in UACN .But then you receive my text my ass is 
  in the chair in Magadan 'cause I use a phone. Ha-ha! 
  Thanks again for messages I'll try to answer to everyone of you !
  Please excuse me for grammar errors and bad spelling .
  
  Hope to hear from you soon
  				-	MURAT
From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: GRAVE!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:06:49 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


   The new Grave is out!  It's called "You'll Never See...", and despite
it being a bit short (8 songs @ about 36 minutes total), it's a terrific
album!  I've only listened to it 3 or 4 times, but already like it
immensely.  If you liked Grave's first album, like Entombed or Unleashed,
check it out!  It's well worth it, IMHO!
   Later,

-- 
Ernest Crvich                          A vomit-like substance
crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu               Is formed from its innards, 
general@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu                A festering slime         
ernest.crvich@bbs.oit.unc.edu          That revels inside.
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: SELLING DEICIDE CD...
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:29:49 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Anybody want to buy Deicide's "Legion" CD? Virtually brand new--been listened
to only once? Our radio station got a copy of it and had to get rid of it cuz
we're of a religious-affiliated institution...and it just wouldn't be cool if
the president turned on his radio and heard that putrid satanic filth blaring
over the speakers... =) 

Make an offer...I'll pay postage.

Reign in Blood,

Christopher 

P.S.	Just came across 'Alpha Omega' by the Cro-Mags...excellent hardcore!
Any other recommendations--are all their albums this good?
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Garage sound!!!
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:46:43 GMT

Do you like the garage sound?Are you tired of the same**perfectly**
mixed music??
Do you like bands like:
Autopsy
N.M.E.
A.M.Q.A (does anyone in Seattle know whats up with A.M.Q.A.???)
old Accused?

Well...I want to know what your favorite raunchy,too distorted,not
perfectly mixed band is,and your fav song by them!!!!

mines probably either:
Cop on a meat hook(by AMQA)
Black Knight(by N.M.E.)gotta be the raunchiest,doomy,garageiest
song ever recorded.

So post `em up,not everyone can be into mainstream metal!(or can they??)
			THE POPE
From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: SODOM
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:13:28 GMT
Organization: Vidal Sassoon's Mosh&Go

In article <9225813.23837@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> gps@ecr.mu.oz.au (Gavin_Paul SMITH) writes:

    Anyone know what has happened to SODOM ?
   I realise that after their release "Better off Dead" they 
   should have been shot , but perhaps they have gone back
   to "Persecution Mania" Mode ... 

Or <God forbid> Obsessed by Cruelty...

However, a new record was supposed to come out in the beginning of summer,
as did Tankard's new. Nuthin' happened. No idea why.

   ********* gps Melbourne University - Chemical Engineering. *********	
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : And the road goes on forever and ever
Xref: sparky alt.thrash:1459 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:10081
From: WK60BUSW@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: GWAR Lyrics request!!!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:59:38 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Hell-O all!
 
Just got Hell-O on cd and was shocked to see that there was no liner of any
kind within - just a pic of the fortress.  No line up, no juicy pics, no thanx
list and no LYRICS!!!!
 
Considering the less than perfect sound of the CD the lack of lyrics is a very
unhappy thing.  I can make out about two out of every three words listening
intently through my excellent headphones and about one in three through the
normal speakers and am VERY UNHAPPY!!!!
 
Could somebody out there PLEASE post or mail me a copy of the lyrics to this
most brilliant of albums??  I would very much appreciate it!!
 
normy norm
From: jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Nuclear Assault Lyrics
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:12:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:11:46 GMT-10:00

Ok...
well, I've checked all the lyrics ftp sites and cant find the lyrics to 
Game over by Nuclear Assault ANYWHERE...
does ANYONE have them?
please?
-- 
/------------------------jbell@mihi.une.edu.au--------------------------\
| so, understand  |-----Iron Maiden--"Wasted years"-----| | Justin Bell |
| the wasted time always searching for those wasted years |             |
| face up, make your stand |---Iron Maiden? EXCELLENT---| |  +61-67-72  |
| and realise you're living in those golden years         |     6247    |
\-------------90 Taylor St., Armidale, NSW, 2350, AUSTRALIA-------------/
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: hechtic@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Benjamin Hecht)
Subject: epidemic
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 23:51:19 GMT

for those of you into stuff like death (the band, not the event), 
obituary, deicide, sepultura etc.

just thought you might want to know about EPIDEMIC, a band from
this area who just released their first album on Metal Blade records.

there aren't any fancy guitar solos or cheezy metal lyrics, just an
incredibly heavy and fast band, with a vocalist who is actually really
good and doesn't have his voice electronically lowered like every bad
grindcore band in the world

Anyway, its what death metal is meant to be.  Highly recommended.

			-- Hechtic
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: gps@ecr.mu.oz.au (Gavin_Paul SMITH)
Subject: SODOM
Keywords: SODOM
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:13:18 GMT

 Anyone know what has happened to SODOM ?
I realise that after their release "Better off Dead" they 
should have been shot , but perhaps they have gone back
to "Persecution Mania" Mode ... 
Any German thrashers know anything (You can reply in German if you want)?

Cheers .
.

********* gps Melbourne University - Chemical Engineering. *********	
   Your Achievement .. What has it come to ????????????????????
 ************NAPALM DEATH********MANCHESTER UNITED F.C.************ 
                     The Fatality of Optimism .   
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: THE POPE SPEAKS(yep,again)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:06:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.094832.11140@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.161738.10293@Cadence.COM>, noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz) writes:
>>
>>I don't understand this has nothing to do with what John said!!!!
>>And who cares besides Red!!!!
>>
>>Blue
>
>Fuck you too, Blue
>
>--
>Red

OOoooooooo!!!!! did someone take the bait??
Did we get upset!?
Aw! 

purple
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: BREADFAN lyrics sought
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:18:07 GMT
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I don't know about "Breadfan", but I think "Bed-Pan" has some interesting
possibilities for parody.  Just a thought that popped into my head.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: reichewr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Re: Garage sound!!! (even better)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:36:19 GMT


In article <1992Sep4.154643.12441@Cadence.COM> jyoung@Cadence.COM (John  
Young) writes:
> Do you like the garage sound?Are you tired of the same**perfectly**
> mixed music??

One of my favorites is the Sperm Birds.  They are a local group from  
Rodenbach, near Kaiserslautern, Germany.  So far they have one double CD  
out that I know, Nothing is Easy/ Something to Prove.

Excellent thrash is you are in to less than moral lyrics.

Wil
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: kjetilja@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Amon Re:Deicide
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.233447.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.232826.16187@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>> On first listen I didn't like Deicide and Atheist, but I only heard their
>> first albums and I hear the next album(s) are not really like the old
>> ones I heard. Are they really drastic enough to be different?
>> 
>> philip
>
>Being a frothing-at-the-mouth Deicide fan, I eagerly bought the second album
>_Legion_, and was sufficiently satisfied as to their consistency of music
>style. Sadly, I find myself at a loss over your other object of inquiry,
>Atheist, and am unable presently to present an answer.
>
>--Semhaza

Honestly, both Deicide and Atheist brought forth new concepts (fair) with their
first releases. I've only heard the latest from Deicide..Legion.. and it's
got nothing really new...sadly..it's basically the same as the first. But to
it's credit: the first track is incredible -Satan spawn the caco-daemon.-
If you think the latest Obituary was a progression from Cause of Death, you'll
probably find the latest Deicide one too...otherwise..enjoy the firsts..

Ithaqua
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: cptighe@unix1.tcd.ie (Conor Tighe)
Subject: SKYCLAD
Keywords: over-whelming
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:47:19 GMT

Ey-up all,
any skyclad fans out there?
this band is definately one of the best.
their music is absolutely amazing and their sound is so original (a fucking violin for christs sake) and the lyrics actually have meaning (not that i dont appreciate the likes of Carcass and Immolation). 
They were supposed to be supporting Danzig last week but Danzig cancelled so Skyclad played a small club gig and charged only a meagre 3 pounds. It was THE best concert ever in my opinion and i've been to a few gig including carcass,massacre/immolation/morgoth/sepultura/chilli peppers/sacred reich/megedeth to mention but a few.Skyclad was much better in every aspect.The atmosphere was 
100% intense.Catch them live and buy their two albums. 

"if you think the world is your oyster,
 you'll surely choke on the pearl,
 it is ours for a while,
 to respect not defile,
 while minds filled with power still whirl,
 the lands we dispute are not ours to pollute,
 neither the air that we breath,
 dear God please let us see reason,
 we can't see the wood for the trees" 

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: ricki@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Richard Breuer)
Subject: Re: peace sells ... but where do I buy?
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  9 Sep 92 07:38:57 GMT

8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

>Does anyone know why MegaDeth have deleted
>'Peace sells ... but who's buying?' from
>their Australian market?  Is this a worldwide
>deletion (is it still available in the states?)

Hmm, here in Germany it's still available. Some time ago, they changed the
price, though. PS.BWB is nowadays available as some 'Nice price' thing.
Perhaps they do the same in Australia now?

Just a guess,
	Ricki

--

e-mail: ricki@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de            | E.vil N.ever D.ies
mail  : R. Breuer, Brunssumstr. 6, 5100 Aachen, Germany   |     (Overkill)

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Subject: Re: epidemic
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 04:50:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.235119.22885@leland.Stanford.EDU> hechtic@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Benjamin Hecht) writes:
>
>just thought you might want to know about EPIDEMIC, a band from
>this area who just released their first album on Metal Blade records.
>
>there aren't any fancy guitar solos or cheezy metal lyrics, just an
>incredibly heavy and fast band, with a vocalist who is actually really
>good and doesn't have his voice electronically lowered like every bad
>grindcore band in the world
>

Yeah, it is a great album. I'm playing it to death on my show. It
has a good mix of chugga chugga and pure speed. Very Slayer influenced.


chanel


Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: peace sells ... but where do I buy?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:46:28 GMT

In article <18575.2aa8a99a@levels.unisa.edu.au> 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>
>Does anyone know why MegaDeth have deleted
>'Peace sells ... but who's buying?' from
>their Australian market?  Is this a worldwide
>deletion (is it still available in the states?)
>So far so good so what is still everywhere, so I
>was wondering if the songs like 'the conjuring' and
>'black friday' are at odds with their new
>"environmentally friendly save the world, lose any
>rough edges, and make a handsome profit" image.
>
In the US Peace Sells is still on the market and I think someone reissued
Killing Is My Business because of the increasing popularity of Megadeth.
>
>What is happening to decent speed metal nowadays?
>--
No idea. I guess the thrash movement is on a decline and giving way to 
death/grind and Top 40. I hope Coroner haven't disbanded. I just saw them last
year and they only got three songs in before Nulcear Assault's stage crew
kicked them off stage (the fact that Marquis Marky broke Panic's drum kit may 
have had something to do with it).

I saw an album by the band called The Beyond. I didn't think the guys had the 
balls to release that thing, unless it's an improvement over the show they did
with Coroner and Nuke Assault. I've never seen so many people asleep at a 
thrash show. Even the guitarist was stiff. I don't think he even blinked. The
only things moving were his wrists. But then maybe I just came to a bad night 
for them. 

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Cannibal Corpse
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:22:57 GMT

For those of us who like rotting heads and sodomy-a-la-meat-hooks, the
undead members of Cannibal Corpse have (de)composed a new album for us
called "Tomb of the Mutilated" which will be unleashed this month.  To
accompany the mangled music will be an illustrated comic book called
"Tales of the Mutilated".  (black and white I believe).  Personally
I can't wait to blast out the blistering eardrums of the kids in the 
dorm next to me then smear their festering flesh into an obscene 
composition on the wall.  (my R.A. would love that).

                                 ->Spice
Newsgroups: alt.thrash,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: GWAR Lyrics request!!!!!
Originator: cmgeorg@c00558-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:50:48 GMT



>Hell-O all!
 
>Just got Hell-O on cd and was shocked to see that there was no liner of any
>kind within - just a pic of the fortress.  No line up, no juicy pics, no thanx
>list and no LYRICS!!!!
 
>Considering the less than perfect sound of the CD the lack of lyrics is a very
>unhappy thing.  I can make out about two out of every three words listening
>intently through my excellent headphones and about one in three through the
>normal speakers and am VERY UNHAPPY!!!!
 
>Could somebody out there PLEASE post or mail me a copy of the lyrics to this
>most brilliant of albums??  I would very much appreciate it!!
 
>normy norm

i'm in love with a dog named boo hoo

richie rich 8-)
From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: SKYCLAD
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:12:35 GMT
Organization: Vidal Sassoon's Mosh&Go

In article <cptighe.716568439@unix1.tcd.ie> cptighe@unix1.tcd.ie (Conor Tighe) writes:

   Ey-up all,
   any skyclad fans out there?

Sure, been a fan of Walkyier's since Blood of the Blood God.

   this band is definately one of the best.
   their music is absolutely amazing and their sound is so original (a fucking
   violin for christs sake) and the lyrics actually have meaning (not that i 

So, the violinist is actually touring with them, not just a studio implement.

   dont appreciate the likes of Carcass and Immolation). 
   
Carcass' lyrics without content ? The first 'academic' grind band, and you
dare slam 'em :-)

  They were supposed to be supporting Danzig last week but Danzig cancelled so 
   Skyclad played a small club gig and charged only a meagre 3 pounds. It was 
   THE best concert ever in my opinion and i've been to a few gig including 
   carcass,massacre/immolation/morgoth/sepultura/chilli peppers/sacred reich/
   megedeth to mention but a few.Skyclad was much better in every aspect.The 
   atmosphere was 
   100% intense.Catch them live and buy their two albums. 

*Sigh*, bands without mega$-contracts never come to scandinavia (unless, of
course they're DM, and want to pay their respects to the swedish ghetto).

BTW - What are the rest of Sabbat guys doing since the breakup ? I think at
least Andy Sneap could easily get into another band. 
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : "Some of my best friends are nukes" - R. Reagan
From: vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu (George Vacek)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Pantera/White Zombie
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:16:46 GMT
Distribution: alt.thrash
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

According to my source, pantera and White Zombie played at the armory in
Buffalo NY last night (Thursday).  Anybody see them?  How was it?

further, does anyone know what Pantera's schedule is like?  Where are they
playing inthe near future?  Will they make it to Atlanta soon?
With White Zombie?

Please e-mail rather than post.  I can always post the net result. (No pun.) 

vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu

my opinions are my own. -- croag
(better .sign in progress)