From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Soviet military training / prejudices I have heard
Date: 2 Jan 93 13:49:12 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics
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In article <01GT1IM6Y24Y8WWYU0@MUVAXJ.RFERL.ORG> ,
BADERTINOVS%NEWS@adminb.rferl.org writes:
>Chechens both in the Army and "na grazhdanke". Surely, some of
>them were "ruthless", just like there were many ruthless
Russians,
>Ukranians, Armenians, etc. But I wouldn't brand ALL OF THEM
"ruth-
>less". There were many nice guys among them. Chechens are a
proud

Ukrainians (to Russians): Polish/Jewish like traders,
						  
						  Hahols, peasant like folks, who do not speak Russian in
a pure way
						  like bureacracy in Moscow or intelligentsiya in St.
Petersburg.
						  
						  They soften "g" to "h" as in South Russia and as
G(H)orbatsov
						  did when he spoke in public and was tired.
						  
						  On the other hand Ukrainians were considered hard
creepers in
						  the Communist hierarcy.
						  
Ukrainians themselves:	  More southern, more life-joying, more
kulinaristic, softer than Russians
						  and therefore easily exploited by Russians, more
Western....				  						  
						  
Turks					  Enemies, threath for russianity: Russians and
Orthodoxy. Tatars burned
						  capital of pre-Russian Khiev - still remembered as
threath of culture:
						  barbars. Azeris almost the same as tatars. Moslem
culture more reactio-
						  nary than capitalism - precapitalist feodalism. Azeris
can make revenge
						  in a Turkish way by putting a knive into ones anus.
						  
Poles					  Unreliable and creedy traders. Worst understament:
						  "Poles are worse than Jews" Ready to make plot against
						  Russia with the West or Germans.

Armenians				  Poor Armenians (Christians) oppressed by Azeris
(Moslems). Armenians
						  hard traders like Jews and Poles.
						  
Georgians				  Hard and ruthless. Stalin was a Georgian. Asian
habits. Feodalism and
						  women are not equal. A "car accident" can happen for a
too Westernized
						  (Russianized) daughter, who takes too much individual
freedom. Traders
						  like Armenians, Poles and Jews.				  						  						  		
			  
						  						  
Estonians (other Baltics) Fascists, that are ready to ally with
the West or Germans if they're
						  given chances.
						  
Finns					  More reliable than Poles. Not so eager to raise up
a mutiny, but
						  still not reliable because of strong economic
connections to Germany
						  and Britain. Wisards - who can not be fully trusted.
Stupid tatels-
						  finiks- that can easily be robbed or cheated by hookers
of St. Peterburg
						  or Moscow.
						  
						  On the other hand not so anti-Russian as Sweden-lead
Nordic countries.
						  Can also be considered as a realistically reasonable
nation. A bridge-
						  builder. Less risky in safety policy in cooperation
with USA than with
						  Germany.
						  
Jews					  Creedy tradors, bolshevik leaders than ruined Holy
Russia. Connections
						  with emigrants and the CIA. Zionists.
						  
Mongols					  Responsible for Tatar-Mongol occupation that
seeded cruel Asian habits
						  in Russian culture and stopped the development of
society for some
						  centuries, which still effects.
						  
Japans					  Disciplined Asians, who may threathen Russia. Must
not give up and give
						  them Kurill islands. Loss of fleet in 1905 still
remembered. May cause
						  a capitalist threath if natural resources given for
Japanese MEGA-companies
						  from Siberia.
						  
Chinese					  Asian threath. Masses of Asia may roll over
Russia.


Generally I would say that Russia is seemened to be threathened
by unreliable lilliputs,
sleeping gigants and unloyal citizens as always. How much
pluralism a country can tolerate.
I thin'k that freedom now in Russia is in its peek.

Olli
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