Original-From: ihlpn!ctsioras (Constantinos N Tsioras +1 708 979 5970)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:47:00 CDT
Reply-To:     ctsioras@IHLPN.ATT.COM
From:         ctsioras@IHLPN.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: UK: NIKH TWN CONSERVATIVES

Grafei o
> N.P.Xenios@BNR.CO.UK
> Subject:      UK: NIKH TWN CONSERVATIVES!!!!

> Agaphtoi filoi/files:

> Oi ekloges sthn Megalh Brettania einai pia parel0on.
> Anatrepontas ola ta prognwstika oi Sunthrhtikoi tou
> John Major katatropwsan gia mia allh fora tous Ergatikous
> -4h kata seira- kai sxhmatizoun kuvernhsh me pleioyhfia
> peripou 16 edrwn pou antistoixei se pososto 43%.

Me telika apotelesmata 43% (CON) vs. 36% (LAB) dev 0a elega oti tous
"katatropwsav". Kerdisav ka0ara, vai.

> Merika sxolia:

> - Uparxei megalh diafora oson afora thn yhfo twn Brettanwn se
>   dhmotikes ekloges kai auths se genikes, akrivws epeidh oi
>   proteraiothtes einai diaforetikes. Auto akrivws as to prose3oun
>   oi filoi Pasokikoi pou "oramatizontai" pala.i.ko reuma pros to
>   PASOK meta tis dhmotikes ekloges sthn A0hna.

Sto prwto skelos sumfwvw. Stis dnmotikes ekloges pavta kuriarxouv oi Ergatikoi
evw stis gevikes oi Kovserbes. Auto omws dev isxuei kai stnv Ellada.
O Ellnvas psnfizei to komma tou, akoma ki av prokeitai gia ekloges gia to
sumboulio govewv kai kndemovwv, gia proedro politistikou sullogou, n' gia
tov tamia tou sullogou Metallosullektwv Katw Araxwbas.

> - Parolh thn ufesh, thn anergia, kai to klima avevaiothtas oi
>   Brettanoi dwsan terma sto Ergatiko komma pou opws fainetai den
>   apofeugei thn allagh hgesias -an oxi thn dialush.

Edw kolaei auto pou legave oi NeoDnmokrates stnv Ellada gia tov Ellnviko
lao otav meta apo oles tis malakies pou ekave to PASOK tnv prwtn 4etia
tous ekselekse kai gia deutern 4etia. H' akoma mnpws ksexases ti legave
pali oi NeoDnmokrates otav propersi to PASOK exase mev tis ekloges alla
pnre upsnlo pososto.
Av 0umasai, legave oti uparxouv polloi kafroi, pou dev katalabaivouv klp klp.

E, isws to idio va kolaei ki edw. 15 xrovia tous pndave tous Brettavous oi
0atserikoi, alla autoi tn briskouv.
Oxi dnladn oti oi Ergatikoi 0a ekavav kai tipota, tetoioi kseverwtoi pou
eivai...

> - An kai einai genikws apodekto oti h proeklogikh ekstrateia twn
>   Ergatikwn eitan polu kala organwmenh, to teliko sumperasma einai
>   oti to parel0on tou Ergatikou kommatos den exei svhsei apo tis mnhmes
>   twn Brettanwn

Gia parel0ov fusika evvoeis tote pou legave va kavouve "unilateral nuclear
dissarmament" dnladn 0elave va katastrepsouve ola ta purnvika tns Brettavias
xwris va perimevouv to idio apo tous tote Sobietikous. Autos ntave o logos
pou xasave tis ekloges priv pevte xrovia (n 0atser tous eixe fobisei olous
me tis kivduvologies tns).

> - Ws kurio aitio ths httas twn Ergatikwn feretai h e3aggel0eisa au3hsh
>   twn forwn se periptwsh nikhs tous. Malista se polles periptwseis
>   auth h 0a eitan polu megalh, px au3hsh apo 40% se 59% gia twn foro
>   eisodhmatos twn uyhlomis0wn, pou metafrazetai san katastrofh ka0e
>   kinhtrou ergasias twn anwterwn stelexwn epixeirhsewn.

Dnladn stnv Brettavia uparxouv 43% upsnlomis0oi, twv opoiwv ta sumferovta
0a 0igotave ??? Auto dev eivai ka0olou to kurio aitio. Diabase parakatw
va deis pio eivai to kurio aitio.

> - Me thn yhfo tous oi Brettanoi anedei3an oti h monh kuvernhsh pou
>  pragmatika mporei na vgalei thn Brettania apo thn ufesh einai auth
>  upo ton xarismatiko arxhgo John Major. Oi tritokosmikoi kai oi
>  sosialistikoi peiramatismoi pou uposxontan oi Labour mallon 0a
>  bu0izan thn xwra sto telma.

Gia siga re Niko. H Suvtnrntikn kubervnsn dev odngnse tn xwra stnv ufesn ?
15 xrovia eivai stnv eksousia. Twra dnladn av tn bgalei apo tnv ufesn 0a
0ewreitai kai epituxia tns ?
Dnladn prwta ta skatwvoume kai meta 0a 0ewroumaste kai swtnres av
kseskatwsoume "our own mess" ? Periergn logikn.

Oso gia to "xarismatikos" o Major, as gelasw. Pio baretos kai axrwmos
politikos dev uparxei.
Toulaxistov n Maggy ntave psuxopa0ns kai palabiara kai eixe evdiaferov to
paixvidi.
Aporw pavtws pws oi psnlomutes Suvtnrntikoi avex0nkav va balouv
arxngo/prw0upourgo tous kapoiov pou exei movo apolutnrio gumvasiou
(tov Major).

H 0atser oristika snmasiodotnse tnv poreia autns tns xwras s' autov tov plavntn.
Tnv esteile mia kai kaln sto xrovovtoulapo tns istorias (sto opoio eixe arxisei
va mpaivei meta to telos tou 2ou Pavgosmiou polemou). Dustuxws n katnfora
dev faivetai va stamataei, kai etsi blepw tnv Bretavia sav mia tritokosmikn
xwra gurw sto etos 2020.
(wx, twra 0a mou tnv pesei o Periklns pou gurise kai fortsatos).

A, kai twra to kurio aitio pou viknsave oi Kovserbes stis ekloges...
Se telikn avalusn, oi malakoBrettavoi eivai aksioi tns tuxns tous.
H dikn mou n eksngnsn eivai oti se tetoia gkavtemoxwra pou zouve, kai
ka0ws blepouve tov nlio mia fora tov xrovo, n faia ousia stov evgefalo
tous exei metabln0ei pleov se gravy (ap' auto pou bazouve sto Sunday roast
beef). Tetoioi kwlomizeroi kai skatiarndes pou eivai (uparxouv kai eksaireseis
(;-)), kala va pa0ouv.
Oriste loipov mia avtikeimevikn avalusn gia ta apotelesmata twv Brettavikwv
eklogwv (:-))

Gia va teleiwvoume, movo mia lusn uparxei gia tnv Brettavia:
Na mazeftouv oles oi kales podosfairikes omades (dnladn n Arsenal) kai ta kala
suvgrotnmata rock kai va moirastouv se alles xwres, va kavw ki egw evacuation
tous filous/suvgeveis/gvwstous mou apo kei... kai epeita .. 5-6 atomikes bombes
va bu0istei to vnsi va nsuxasoume... (:-)))

> Nikos Ksenios
> Essex, England, UK

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