From: dvfreese@freese.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Doug Freese)
Subject: Re: Netiquette (was Re: High-Tech Vitamins)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 01:35:38 GMT
Organization: IBM Corp. Kingston NY

In article <1993Jan21.154731.13196@email.tuwien.ac.at> bloeser@tron.kom.tuwien.ac.at (Friedrich Bloeser) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.000646.20015@watson.ibm.com> dvfreese@freese.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Doug Freese) writes:
>>In article <C15LuK.2Hz@cscns.com> mavihoja@cscns.com (Michael D. Beatty) writes:
>>>Keywords: 
>>>
>>>Greetings All:
>>>     Do you remember about a month and a helf ago, when some clumsy, 
>>>blind, ignorant oaf allegedly abused the use of the listserv and 
>>>asked for help from you folks on methods of getting an exciting line 
>>>
>>>   ... (lot of stuff deleted) ...
>>>
>>>Please contact me if you you would like to try them, or hear more 
>>>about the potential business possibilities.
>>>Or, to just discuss the chemistry!
>>>
>>>        Thanks for being there......           Michael Beatty
>>>
>>
>>I think it would be interesting to cross post this to sci.med.nutrition
>>and solicit some responses. 
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>--------The race is not to the swift but to those who keep on running -----
>>Doug Freese                 (The views expressed here are entirely mine)     
>>I.B.M. Corp.                email: dvfreese@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com 
>>Neighborhood Rd. Kingston N.Y. 12401 
>
>
>Hello Doug (and everybody else whom it may concern)!
>
>Besides all the technical stuff that I teach those folks that attend my
>courses on email and news here at the university, I tell them to think
>a little, before they post articles to newsgroups. To think, whether their
>article really is of value to the whole news-community or just to the author
>of the article to be answered. Another thing they should do is not always to
>include the original mail or article as a whole, but only those lines that
>they refer to in their answer.

Friedrich, You caught me with my shears burried in the bottom of my closet    
amid hauntingly old smelly running shoes.  Yes, I was lazy and I 
promise to try harder.  I will run with a pebble in my shoe as a 
constant reminder. :-(  
(I did not have the heart to snip out any your lines)

As for the cross post suggestion - I would disagree that it is not 
appropriate. I was trying to convey, although implied, that one 
could get a valued reading from another newsgroup AND to mention 
the newsgroup so those, who may not be familiar, may wish to read. 
I'm sure there are runners, i.e. this newsgroup, who might be      
interested in the intersection between physical and nutritional 
needs i.e the other newsgroup.  

>
>I am sorry that you have not observed both of these considerations.
>After repeating the whole long article you state that this article should
>be posted also to another newsgroup, obviously a suggestion to the author
>of the original article.
>
>Please tell him directly the next time and do net waste bandwidth and the time
>of those reading this group. Perhaps you could take a look into the group
>"news.announce.newusers", there is a periodically posted article with the
>subject "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette".

You make what could have been a gentle suggestion into a lecture. 
Are you having a hard time separating the classroom and polite 
dialogue. Now, gets get back to running.  How about those Cowboys - oops.
>
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-- 
--------The race is not to the swift but to those who keep on running -----
Doug Freese                 (The views expressed here are entirely mine)     
I.B.M. Corp.                email: dvfreese@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com 
Neighborhood Rd. Kingston N.Y. 12401