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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mini-Pump Review 3/5
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:57:43 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

SILCA BABY

This baby proved to be no play thing. Despite its simple appearance, it
was one of the best overall performers for tires of all sizes. The only
area where it suffered was at very high pressures (over 100psi).

Much of this pump's success can be attributed to its deep,
tight-fitting head. The Silca's head was the best of the press-on
variety. This not only creates a secure fit between the tube and pump,
but it keeps the pump's head closer to the rim, thereby reducing the
amount of torque/stress on the valve, which reduces the chance of
tearing the valve from the tube. But as good as the Presta head is, it
doesn't make up for the Baby's Schraeder adaptor. Instead of using a
reversible head like the one found on their Gran Sasso, Silca relies on
a small brass adaptor that screws onto the Schraeder valve and
press-fits into the Presta head. The adaptor leaks at the valve and the
pump. If you must use Schraeder valves, look elsewhere.

The Baby is attached to the bike's frame by two clips that fit between
a bottle cage and it's bosses. Interestingly enough, both ends of the
pump feature a frame-fit profile and a hole for a pump peg.
Unfortunately, the handle is not spring-tensioned, so the Baby cannot
be fitted like a conventional frame pump. 


SILCA GRAN SASSO

Silca's Gran Sasso was the heftiest pump tested--in fact, it uses the
same diameter barrel as their famed track (Pista) pumps. And like the
company's Impero frame pumps, the Gran Sasso is available with a
thumb-lock reversible Presta/Schraeder head or a Presta-only head. This
interchangability makes it very easy to find replacement parts. Another
nice touch is that the handle and rod are retained by a cap that's
secured by allen-head set-screws. While this can make it a bit harder
to service the pump, it practically guarantees that it won't explode
and send the handle flying if you accidently depress the valve tip at
high pressure (something you really don't want to experience, trust
me).

With its large diameter barrel, the Gran Sasso is best suited to
high-volume, low-pressure, tires such as those found on mountain bikes.
It could fill a 26x2.1" tire faster than any other pump
tested--although there was quite a bit of resistance the last twenty or
so strokes.

Unlike the other pumps in the test which use frame- or bottle
cage-mounted clips, the Gran Sasso must be used with a pump peg. Silca
provides a nylon, clamp-on peg (that can accommodate a 1-3/8" diameter
tube), but the Gran Sasso's 12-1/2" compressed length limits where the
pump can be mounted. But, a pump this size does have an advantage: it's
better for fending off aggressive canines.

--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
From: erdmans@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Wham! With 2 Hands!)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: BRIDGESTONE MB-3 -- Your comments please
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:28:53 EST


Hello there,

I'm not sure if this will get 'out' or not because my News feed is acting
strange.

Here's goes nothing......

I'm thinking of purchasing a Bridgestone MB-3 (mountain bike) and I would
like the comments of fellow netters.

Do you have an MB-3?
Likes, dislikes, and anything else that would help a perspective buyer.

Any information will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,
Scott Erdman

email: erdmans@astro.cs.hh.ab.com
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 12:12:38 PST
From: <TOM@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: "Schwinns are rad"

You are right in some ways, that todays Schwinns don't fare well with Brand
Xes, but I still have my 1963 Red Schwinn Typnoon Crusier, with the red and
white S seat.  It has been through almost 30 years of living hell, a paper
route bike, an upside down ice-cream truck, a backstop, baseball trading
cards with wooden close-pins atached, and through all that torture, it's
still tickin!...So I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if you knock a
Schwinn, don't be surprised if someone gives you the F-You look from the
heart!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Subject: Re: Mongoose Amplifier
Reply-To: paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:14:33 GMT

In article <29424@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh) writes:
|> 
|> Have you considered the GT RTS-1?  Another shop in my are just took
|> delivery of these; they look great and the cro-moly rear end might be
|> more durable.

Wow! I don't know how much the RTS-1 goes for in the States, but
the local GT shop guys told me that the DEALER cost for one is $3500 Cdn.
I can't begin to imagine what it would retail for.  Needless to say,
they aren't stocking any.  The owners of the shop both bought the RTS-2
version.  They say that the only difference is that the -1 frame is made
in the US while the -2 frame is built in Taiwan.  The RTS-2 may be a
better choice unless you have *a lot* of disposable income.

Cheers....Stuart
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Dura Ace '93 SPD pedals
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:28:33 GMT

clemos@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The Chameleon) writes:
>Before the bike dealer, who has ordered my new Trek and swapped in DA 
>SPD pedals, rips me off for too much money - can someone out there tell me what
>the current price is for these damn things? I'd like to walk in there knowing
>how much that bastard is going to try to to screw me for this time.

Yikes!  Why don't you get a new dealer?                 
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
From: twowheel@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (twowheel)
Sender: Jpunix@urchin.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Nuovo Record clamp-on front derailleur
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:06:58 -0500

Once again I am asking if anyone has a Nuovo Record front derailleur for sale,
but this time I am making it clear that I need the clamp-on version. I also
have a braze-on Nuovo Record front derailleur in brand new condition for sale
or trade. Thanks.

       __ o    Howard Gerber   Two Wheelers: 713-682-6508
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From: AllenB@ccmail.gsm.uci.edu (Brent Allen)
Subject: Mtn. Bike Fenders
Summary: Advice on Mtn. Bike Fenders
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: UCI Grad School of Mgmt
Keywords: Fenders
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:19:50 GMT


Looking for positive/negative experiences with Mtn. Bike Fenders.  

It would be nice to stop the stream of water coming off the tires when
commuting in the rain, and the chunks of mud that come flying off when 
trail riding.

Thanks,

Brent
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: mmckenna@bnr.ca (Michael McKenna)
Subject: Re: Profile AeroII for sale.
Reply-To: mmckenna@bnr.ca (Michael McKenna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:36:41 GMT

In article <5JAN199315062477@seqvax.caltech.edu>, george@seqvax.caltech.edu (George Komatsoulis) writes:
|> Profile AeroII bars for sale.
|> Medium width, adjustable length
|> 2 months old.
|> $30
|> Send E-mail if interested
|> 
|> ********************************************************************************
|> George Komatsoulis			Division of Biolgy
|> george@seqvax.bio.caltech.edu		147-75
|> 					California Institute of Technology
|> Have pump, will travel			Pasadena, CA 91125


I would like to buy these bars but I do not have outgoing Email
access.  Could you please post your phone number and I will call
you to make arrangements.

Thanks,
Mike McKenna
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,su.market,ba.market.misc
From: polly@grover.Stanford.EDU (Polly Siegel)
Subject: For Sale:  50 cm Serotta
Reply-To: polly@grover.stanford.edu
Organization: Center for Integrated Systems, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:45:21 GMT

For Sale:

50 cm Serotta Davis Phinney, Red with White decals
   - hardly been ridden and never been crashed
   - mixture of Campy (Croce D'Aune and Chorus) and Shimano 600 parts
   - choice of pedals (Time, Look, quill)

Price: $1000/bo

Send e-mail or call me at home at (415) 493-4727

- polly
-- 
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Polly Siegel
Center for Integrated Systems
(polly@grover.stanford.edu)
From: mjaneba@willamette.edu (Mark Janeba)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: In defense of Huffys
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:38:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.C0Jyo7.M2
Distribution: usa
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

tschorer@hoh.mbl.edu (Tim Schorer) writes:  

>One interesting side note:  Huffy Bicycles used to own Raleigh USA. Doesn't
>that just suck?  I have a Raleigh MTB and track bike.  Damn. 

>Always stay away from the guys in the peloton who are on raleighs, they're
>usually the ones that [...] yell "braking" as they enter corners...  

Hmmm.. so my late-70's-vintage Raleigh Pro makes me a geek?  Raleighs were
real bikes long before Huffy got involved (the latter a pity for Raleigh); I
suspect Raleighs were real bikes before Huffy existed. (The knowledgeable may
carp that Raleighs were only utility bikes before Raleigh bought out Carlton
in the 60's or so, but I'll stick with my comments above. ) 

Now for the real kindling (flame-starters)...

As TOY BIKES go, Huffys seem (I hurts me to say it) to be among the better
made.  Shopping for a 16" SIDEWALK bike for my 4-year-old daughter, I first
went to bike shops.  Only one in town had something.  It had pseudo-lugs,
otherwise pretty crude.  The Huffy I found at a wholesale place for half the
price was welded, and had a one-piece crank (buy American :)), but otherwise
seemed entirely satisfactory.  Heck, it almost looked serviceable.  

All shame gone, I looked at other department stores - and things got worse. 
MUCH WORSE.  Welds with fillets (or whatever they were) of about 1/10 the
mass of the Huffy's, etc.  The Huffy I finally bought (Oh sacrilege) looks
like it will survive sidewalk use well past the needed lifetime.  The others
looked likely to terminate the family line if used.

Now, to redeem myself:  In my past experience, most Huffys looked like they
would spontaneously self-destruct with any significant usage.  They cannot be
repaired, not really.  Avoid like the plague any department-store bike with
components requiring fine adjustment, like derailleurs, caliper brakes, etc. 
In recent years, some dept-store bikes have become serviceable, but only by
costing MORE than better-quality bike store bikes.  Some exceptions exist at
loss-leader-sale time.  Extremely low-speed sidewalk usage with coaster brakes
may be okay, but look carefully.  Assemble yourself or forget it if you aren't
able; don't put your kid's life in the hands of the high school "expert
assemblers" the department stores employ.  With these caveats, go ahead and
look at TOY Huffy bikes. 

So flame me; I could use the amusement -
From: ak398@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Frederick W. Romell)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Query: Used Trek 1200 w/ 105 group.
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:31:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I've rescued a Trek 1200 from a trash bin, and it appears to have
been crashed.  I've checked out the alignment of the bike and its
fine, but I'm wondering if its worth anything.  From the wear on 
the gears, this bikes been ridden hard and long.  SO--is it worth
replacing the components if the frame is OK and what is the
frame and fork worth if I decide to sell it?

TO all those persons who responded to my request for TANDEM comments,
THANK YOU. 
-- 
<<ak398>>  Frederick W. Romell

"Repent Harlequin!"                                "NEVER!"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: dunger@sheba.er.usgs.gov (Derek Unger)
Subject: Re: Thinking about buying a Bridgestone MB-3
Organization: U.S.Geological Survey
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:26:19 GMT

I bought an MB-2 in March and I love it. I owned a Fisher HK-II and the
Bridgestone is a much more comfortable ride.  There is kind of a cult
following of Bridgstone owners, but I have never known anyone who has
disliked the ride of their Bridgestones.  It is reassuring to know that
there area at least a few companies out there that still don't get
sucked into a lot of the hype of the newest fangled things.  Go for it
and get the bike.  You won't be dissapointed in the the least.

Cheers, Derek

p.s.  You may still be able to get a '92 model for a significant
savings.  I bought an MB-3 for my girl freind in the Middle of December,
and I think that Bridgestone still had a few left.
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles.marketplace:1817 rec.bicycles.misc:1841
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Now that's a warranty!
Keywords: Fuji titanium warranty
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:00:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Distribution: na
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

A friend of mine, who generally portrays himself as unable to afford any
of the Ti frames I've been considering (and doesn't appreciate the suggestion
that he ape me and dump his car for the cash :-), showed up with a new Ti
Fuji the other day.  How'd he get it?  Seems he went through five of their
top steel frames in three years and they finally got tired of paying for the
slaughter.

Kinda makes me wonder what to think of Fuji, though.  Are they a company
that makes consistently lousy frames, or one that backs their product up
no matter what it takes?  (I also find myself wishing *I* had the knees to
mash my way through frames like that.  Heck, I got 30,000 miles out of a
mid-range Univega.)
-- 
****************************************************************************
Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
RAAM in '93?		   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
From: jbr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jarryl B. Ritchie)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Minoura MAG Trainer For Sale
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:05:25 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

I have a Minoura MAG Trainer that I am selling.  This is one of the 
foldable type that simply clamps onto the rear-wheel.  It folds pretty
flat and does not take up as much room as a full sized trainer.  Makes
it ideal for transportation by car.  It has 7 resistance settings.
This model has the extension arm, that places the resistance selector
up by the hip allowing the change of resistance without getting off the
bike.

I have had the trainer for about a year.  I believe that these trainers 
retail in the $200 range, maybe a little less. 

 I am asking $80 (+ shipping)
or best offer.

Jay Ritchie
jbr1@ra.msstate.edu
From: ce011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Erdman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Thinking about buying a Bridgestone MB-3
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:28:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Hi folks,

I'm thinking of buying a Bridgestone MB-3 (mountain bike).

For those out there who have Bridestones, do you love or hate them?
Would you recommend one?
What do you think about the company overall?

Any information about Bridgestone and their mountain bikes willk be
greatly appreciated!!!!!


Thank you,
Scott Erdman

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: loucks@isrc.sandia.gov (Cliff Loucks)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Indoor Training w/Rollers
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:56:37 GMT

Ok, this is getting out of the marketplace subject so how about we
move this to rec.bicycles.misc?

> In the past, rollers were criticized because they could not provide
> enough resistance, ...

I've heard this comment frequently, but I don't understand it.  When I
ride rollers, I start out in a relatively easy gear, like 52/17, to get
warmed up.  I generally keep around 100 rpm most of the time.  After
warming up, I begin shifting to higher gears and end up riding the 14
and 13 tooth cogs, which puts my speedometer around 30 mph.
Maintaining this level of effort for 30 or 45 minutes, with the
excursions to as high an rpm as I can handle, is a reasonable workout;
as much as I want from rollers anyway.

> However, there are times when you may not want to concentrate on
> balancing while riding.

Which is exactly why rollers are such a useful piece of equipment.
Rollers require you to ride smoothly, and surely you agree that smooth
pedalling, with minimum (or no) upper body movement, is more
efficient.  With enough practice on rollers, you shouldn't have to
concentrate on balancing, whether on rollers or on the road.  You
should be able to read, drink, sit up (no hands), and eventually even
change a jersey on rollers.  I recommend rollers to all serious riders,
particularly beginning racers.

I won't argue with fan attachment for rollers.  It's certainly nice to
have a fan cooling you on rollers, and it only makes since for you to
be the energy source for that fan.

Cliff
-- 

Cliff Loucks  <=>  loucks@isrc.sandia.gov
Sandia National Labs, Albuquerque, New Mexico
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Re: Dura Ace '93 SPD pedals
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo / Object Technology International
    15:02:41 GMT
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:59:55 GMT
X-Bytes: 758

In article <1993Jan8.150241.20101@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> clemos@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The Chameleon) writes:

 >Before the bike dealer, who has ordered my new Trek and swapped in DA 
 >SPD pedals, rips me off for too much money - can someone out there tell me what
 >the current price is for these damn things? I'd like to walk in there knowing
 >how much that bastard is going to try to to screw me for this time.

Probably won't help you much but just for interest sake, they go for
about 24,000 yen (US$ 200) here in Japan.  That's before haggling,
bartering or beating the bastard for trying to screw you!

Are they available in the US as seperate components yet?  I would like
to know the price as well.


--
ato de, |m        -- gad!  winter!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
From: narchamb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas D Archambeault)
Subject: In defense of Huffys
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:31:29 GMT


Howdy,

I've noticed a preponderance of postings assaulting bikes manufactured
by HUFFY.  Many times denying any value to any of their products.  Now,
I know this is a sensitive topic, but I feel like I should share my own
experiences with this brand.

I own a Huffy Mt. Storm that I have been riding to class every day for
the past four years.  Its use has been mainly on pavement with an 
occasional afternoon of trail riding.  Very light stuff.  However, 
aside from one cut tire and a bent rear brake caliper (my own fault) I
have had no problems with it.  It has been cheap and reliable transpor-
tation for some time now.

Granted, I often dream of a fully suspended 'Dale with all the fixins,
but until I graduate the Huffy will have to suffice.  Sometimes you
have to drive an old Volkswagen until you can afford the Porsche.

Nick

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I'm not quite sure whose opinions these are; I *think* they're mine...

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: feng@cs.uiuc.edu (Wuchun Feng)
Subject: Re: Mini-pump/mini-tool results
Keywords: floor pumps
Reply-To: Wuchun Feng <feng@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:39:09 GMT

martin@morticia.princeton.edu (Carlos Martin) writes:

>wayman@TELLABS.com (Bob Daniel-Wayman) writes:
>>
>>I bought Nashbar's floor pump and have been very satisfied with it. It is the
>>same as some Japanese company's with trashbars name on it.
>>
>I bought a Nashbar floor pump several years ago.
>I chose this pump over a comparably priced (i.e., cheap)
>Zefal model offered at the time by Nashbar because the Nashbar pump
>looked more durable.  The base and body of the Nashbar
>pump are metal (steel?), and that of the Zefal pump were plastic.
>
>[ ... rest of discussion on pumps deleted ... ]

Just to set the record straight, Nashbar does offer a Zefal floor pump that
is NOT made of plastic.  The Zefal Husky floor pump is made of metal (see
Bicycling, March 1992? for a review).

-Wu
-- 
Wuchun Feng // feng@cs.uiuc.edu // University of Illinois // Urbana, IL 61801
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: kc@core.rose.hp.com (Kurt Chan)
Subject: Re: Avocet 50 rear wheel speed/cadence system
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:54:11 GMT
Organization: HP, Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

| Loose Screws (address & phone in FAQ) lists a full array of Avocet 
| parts.  A rear mount kit is $13, vs. $10 for a cadence mount kit.  

I checked my Nashbar catalog last night and noticed they also have
the Avocet rear mount.