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From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: aus.driving, coming soon.
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:19:40 GMT

in article <axolotl.721557884@syzygy>, axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) says:
> Next week, I'll newgroup aus.driving.

I've owned my '85 Holden Barina (canary yellow) for 2805 days and in that time
I've driven 85294.3 km and used 5134.17 litres of fuel.

And I don't drive it to work!

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Organization: Telecom Australia Research Laboratories
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:16:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.212154.29787@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes:
>In <1992Nov12.013444.27634@trl.oz.au> c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov11.201719.25710@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
>>daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes:
>>>
>>>Also, developments away from the city cost a LOT in new infrastructure,
>>>such as new phone lines, power, sewerage, to cope with the influx of
>>>people. The city already has these. 
>
>>So do the suburbs.
>
>No, I mean the city has enough infrastructure to support the huge
>numbers of office workers who live there. If you move a thousand office
>workers to some new building in the suburbs, chances are that Telecom
>will have to put in more phone lines, 

The cost differential between city and suburbs of another 1000 line access is
small.  There is large amounts of capacity available across the suburbs in
optical fibres which are not yet connected to switches.

>SEC will need to put in higher
>capacity power lines, 

11 kV lines are usually not far away in the suburbs.

>Melbourne Water will need to upgrade the sewers...

There are already a lot of people living in the suburbs, a lot of whom go
elsewhere during working hours.  This means the capacity is underused during
working hours.

>all to deal with the sudden increase in people working there.

I don't think Telecom, SEC, Melbourne Water are interested in subsidizing any
business customers.  Even if any of these do have to do a major upgrade outside
of their plans to support a large business in the suburbs, they would pass this
cost on to the business concerned.  If the business is happy to wear the cost,
who are we to interfere in their business.

Chris O'Neill
Telecom Research
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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Re: Australian Research Reactor Propos
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:59:13 GMT

In <9232908.1384@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> ggr@nareen.acci.com.au (Greg Rose) writes:

>In article <993300078@peg.pegasus.oz.au> foesydney@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
>>The Australian government is allowing only a month and half for 
>>public submissions to a government review board in an attempt to 
>>bulldoze through a new research reactor proposal. If succesful, 
>>the reactor will likely be built on the site of an older research 
>>reactor just 1.6 kilometres from residential housing.

>I don't understand. The original research reactor was built 20 km from
>anywhere, and they are proposing a new one on the same site. Where is
>the problem? Anyone living within 20 km of it must clearly have chosen
>to go there.

I second this attitude (hi Greg!), and would extend this to 
many other areas of life, not least of which would be the
ridiculous restrictions a Amaroo Park raceway, which for many
many years was in the middle of the bush at Annangrove, (more
accurately, in the middle of a farming district) and now has
local residents who complain about the noise!! 
Hell, what did they expect, moving next to a racetrack?

And the most stupid thing about the whole affair is the way
the noise nazis measure SPL at the edge of the track, rather 
than the edge of the property.

There are similar restrictions applied to airports, and army
bases, all of which were there before any local residents moved
in (although jets are rather louder than Super Constellations).

(Getting back to the original thread) Anyone moving to Lucas
Heights would have done so knowing full well that there was 
a reactor there. And it isn't as if the effects of radiation 
are a recently discovered phenomenon (not that it's leaking).

regards,
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From: foesydney@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:44 EST
Subject: Australian Research Reactor Propos
Nf-ID: #N:peg:993300078:000:1373
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!foesydney    Nov 23 18:44:00 1992


AUSTRALIAN NUCLEAR LOBBY TRIES TO BULLDOZE REACTOR REVIEW

WANTED: ANYONE FAMILAR WITH CONVENTIONAL REVIEW PROCEDURES USED 
IN COST-BENEFIT ASSESSMENTS FOR REACTOR PROPOSALS.

The Australian government is allowing only a month and half for 
public submissions to a government review board in an attempt to 
bulldoze through a new research reactor proposal. If succesful, 
the reactor will likely be built on the site of an older research 
reactor just 1.6 kilometres from residential housing.

Organisations and people working in the peace, nuclear and energy 
fields, are requested to lobby the Australian government to 
extend the closing date for submissions beyond 18 December 1992.

The Australian government is highly sensitive to international 
pressure, so any evidence that demonstrates that this review 
fails to meet acceptable international criteria could prove 
extremely embarassing for the ministers and bureaucrats involved.

Please phone or fax the Australian Prime Minister, Paul Keating 
with your concern: tel: 61-6-277-7700; fax: 61-6-273-4100

Individuals who wish to submit evidence to the review should 
contact:
The Secretariat, Research Reactor Review, GPO Box 9839, Sydney, 
NSW 2001, Australia.

Please inform Movement Against Uranium Mining ( fax: 61-2-281-
5216, tel: 61-2-212-4538), or Friends of the Earth on 
peg:foesydney, of your action

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: matthew@cs.su.oz (Matthew Geier)
Subject: Re: Australian Research Reactor Propos
Reply-To: matthew@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Matthew Geier)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:26:16 GMT

 I used to actually live about 5 ks from that site. I knew it was there before
I moved to Bangor. Its been there longer than ive been alive. If I climbed the
fence at the playing field at the top of the street I could see HIFAR..

 It was there first. If people cant be bothered to check what sort of industy
is just down the road before they move in , then they cant complain. Naturally
real estate agents 'neglect' to mention that Australia's only Nuclear
instalation is just down the road.

 I think the issue is more money that anything else. If the site was shutdown
Landcom and developers would make a killing out of all the prime land it
would free up. They look at those views over the river and the $$ light up
in their eyes.


Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Front Number Plate
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:03:26 GMT

(Tony Payne CSD) writes:

 >does anyone out there know why the law requiring motor o&o to have a front
 >number plate was dropped? I can't think of anything apart from aesthetic
 >reasons. I can't imagine it being dropped for that. Can you?

Aerodynamics? Makes bikes wobble at 270kmh?

                       Brent.

ps - :-) on the second bit. My bike has enough trouble making 27kmh.

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 It was too wet to play.           |   School of CompSci
 So we sat in the house            |   UTS
 All that cold, cold, wet day."    |   New South Wales
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheel repairs
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:54:04 +1100
Followup-To: aus.motorcycles
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE) writes:
> As a result of a pothole or some other road blemish (NSW roads
> are full of them), I now have a (very) small ding in the rim of
> my front wheel. It is just enough to cause the loss of about 3-4
> psi per day from the tire.

.....

> I've got contradictory advice recently - some say wheel repairs are
> an art form and require expert personnel and special equipment while
> others say it's easy to fix a small ding once the tire is off. Anyone
> have an opinion on this???

        I had to have this done for the front wheel on my VF750. The
local place refused to do it and sent it Bob Martin Engineering,
somewhere in the east half of Melbourne (Bob has some trick bike
repair equipment). It didn't cost a fortune and it didn't take too
long (considering Bob was moving premises at the time my wheel was
sent to him). I don't know who would be able to handle this sort of
work in your area.

           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
From: bvandepe@iti.org (Brenton Vandepeer)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: speed camera
Date: 23 Nov 1992 00:22:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: adelphi.itd.adelaide.edu.au

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

>(Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:


> >I went through a speed camera at about 135. This was on the freeway
> >north of Sydney. BUT since the camera points towards the traffic,
> >I didn't get pinged. The policeman didn't even look up.


>I received an email query about this. 

>"Why does facing traffic make a difference."

>Because a photo of the front of a bike doesn't identify a motorcycle.
>It has no number plate on the front. 

>I should have phrased my comment better - the camera is pointing to
>the *oncoming* traffic, not the disappearing traffic.

>                Brent.

That's odd. Here in South Australia the speed cameras take pictures of the
rear ends of motor vehicles passing when triggered. Which means, of course,
that we 2 wheeled motorists are not safe from the snap happy revenue
raisers.

In South Oz we also have red light cameras. (For those running red lights)
But these have a set position at each intersection, so if you're heading in
the correct direction (towards the camera) you're safe.

Anyone care to confirm the orientation of speed cameras with respect to
traffic direction in other states?

Regards,
--

Brenton Vandepeer, University of Adelaide, South Australia.

email: bvandepe@physics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE)
Subject: Wheel repairs
Followup-To: aus.motorcycles
Organization: Charles Sturt University-Mitchell
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:39:33 GMT

As a result of a pothole or some other road blemish (NSW roads
are full of them), I now have a (very) small ding in the rim of
my front wheel. It is just enough to cause the loss of about 3-4
psi per day from the tire.

I can nurse it back and forth to work each day as I carry a pressure
gauge and live near a servo but my question is... Can my local bike
shop fix the wheel, or is it a specialist job?

I've got contradictory advice recently - some say wheel repairs are
an art form and require expert personnel and special equipment while
others say it's easy to fix a small ding once the tire is off. Anyone
have an opinion on this???

Errol

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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: uphrrmb@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Beemer
Reply-To: uphrrmb@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:51:44 GMT

	Alas Winter has set in up here in Montana.  I pulled the battery out of
the Beemer ('73 R75/5 long frame) last weekend in preps for a long winter's
nap.  It was a good year of riding- damb near ten grand on the odometer.  Went
from Wyoming to Kansas City to Big Bend Park way down in Texas, out to the
coast and back to Wyoming.  Would have gone up the coastal highway if it
weren't for the rain turning me back.  OK wimpy you might say but consider this
trip took place in late February and early March.  Got to do quite a bit of
quality riding around Jackson's Hole WY this summer as well- up through the
parks, down through the back side of the Tetons via Driggs, ID;  cruised the
Winds around Lander and Pinedale, WY.  Yep damn fine ridin' year.
	With the considerable down time forced on by the onset of winter I get
plenty of chances for maintenance and repair.  This year it's leaky seals and
brakes, maybe new wheel bearings all around.  Maybe some of you Beemer-files
have seen this problem before:  There is a vent cap on the final drive housing
that continually oozes gear oil while I ride.  I check the levels in the
reservoirs and they remain full with the exception of the transmission, which
may be burning it off.  Is it possible for the tranny oil to flow all the way
back to the rear differential housing and thus leak out the blow hole?  Is this
problem indicative of some urgent repair?  Obviously I need to do something as
the oil eventually ends up fouling up my tire.  Very messy.
	
	G'Day eh.                                             Beemer Mike  
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: mikej@mikej.mentorg.com (Mike Johnson)
Subject: ISDT Where was it?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:15:42 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: International Six Day Trials
Followup-To: 

Cycle World in the December issue gives information on the recent
International Six Day Trails held in Australia.  Lots of nice
stuff about how the US team did, but nothing about where the
trial was held.

I spent many long weekends in the Mountains East of Melbourne
riding my Bultaco Alpina back in the early '70s.  We had a house
in Woods Point.  About 6 of us would ride all day and drink at
the Commercial Hotel until closeing or later.  Then get up and
ride some more.

I was just wondering if the trial was held around there.  Anyone
know?
                       Mike Johnson
                       mikej@wv.mentorg.com
From: alan@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Alan Hargreaves)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ISDT Where was it?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 10:26:18 +1100
Organization: Maths Department, University of Newcastle, Oz.
NNTP-Posting-Host: frey.newcastle.edu.au
Keywords: International Six Day Trials

mikej@mikej.mentorg.com (Mike Johnson) writes:

>Cycle World in the December issue gives information on the recent
>International Six Day Trails held in Australia.  Lots of nice
>stuff about how the US team did, but nothing about where the
>trial was held.

>I was just wondering if the trial was held around there.  Anyone
>know?

The ISDE was held in Cessnock N.S.W, Australia, ~100km north of
Sydney.
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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: speed camera
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:59:48 GMT


I went through a speed camera at about 135. This was on the freeway
north of Sydney. BUT since the camera points towards the traffic,
I didn't get pinged. The policeman didn't even look up.

At 35 kms above the speed limit the fine is pretty damn big. I think
I might treat myself to a new leather jacket, in memory of the
fine that I never got. 

This makes me very happy! 

                       Brent.

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"The sun did not shine.            |   Brent Curtis
 It was too wet to play.           |   School of CompSci
 So we sat in the house            |   UTS
 All that cold, cold, wet day."    |   New South Wales
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: stevea@vast.unsw.edu.au (Steve Avery)
Subject: Re: speed camera
Organization: VaST Lab, CS & E, University of NSW, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:53:41 GMT

Brent Curtis sez:

   I received an email query about this. 

   "Why does facing traffic make a difference."

   Because a photo of the front of a bike doesn't identify a motorcycle.
   It has no number plate on the front. 

	Actually, when I visited a certain federal government sponsored
research facility in Melbourne last year, I was shown the tests they did
to ascertain the best performance they could get from the camera
pictures themselves. 
	The limit on the pictures is two lanes, apparently due to
trade-offs with camera speed (to prevent blurring) and granularity of
the film (to make the plates readable). This means that if you are more
than two lanes away from the camera, you're generally okay (I cannot
ever remember seeing a speed camera set up where traffic moving away
from the camera was greater than two lanes deep).

	cheers
	-steve
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: russ@pta.pyramid.com.au (Russell Day)
Subject: Anyone know Damus?
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:47:45 GMT

Years ago, a bloke named Damus someone was the Head Honcho at
Scotts workshop in Sydney.  He went to the US to play the cycle-racing
circuit, I believe.  Last year, someone told me he had returned and
has a fixit shop in the City/Surrey Hills area.  Can anyone tell me
where this might be?

Russ
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: smithnd@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (N. D. Smith)
Subject: jap import VF750
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:42:22 GMT


Hi there aussie bikers,
I own an '84 Jap import VF750 FD and thik that it is really nice bike but being an import its a bit under grunted, has any one got any sugestions on what can be done to bring it up NZ spec?. My other worry is that FD was known for chewing up cams, this is not a problem I have experienced yet and I'm wondering if the reduced power output might have something to do with it (hense upping the power might not be such a great idea). The only advise I got on this problem when I bought the bike was to do regular o


il changes. Please don't tell me to by a VFR or a CBR as I'm a broke student and it took 2 years to pay the VF off.

I'd appreciate your thourghts, thanks in advance
Niall
smithnd@elec.canterbury.ac.nz
From: twp@rand.mel.cocam.oz.au (Tony Payne CSD)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: speed camera
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:23:31 GMT
Organization: Co-Cam Computer Group, Oz

In article <1ep88gINN4di@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> bvandepe@iti.org (Brenton Vandepeer) writes:
>brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
>
>>(Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
>
>
>> >I went through a speed camera at about 135. This was on the freeway
>> >north of Sydney. BUT since the camera points towards the traffic,
>> >I didn't get pinged. The policeman didn't even look up.
>
>That's odd. Here in South Australia the speed cameras take pictures of the
>rear ends of motor vehicles passing when triggered. Which means, of course,
>that we 2 wheeled motorists are not safe from the snap happy revenue
>raisers.
>
>In South Oz we also have red light cameras. (For those running red lights)
>But these have a set position at each intersection, so if you're heading in
>the correct direction (towards the camera) you're safe.
>
>Regards,
>Brenton Vandepeer, University of Adelaide, South Australia.

Here (At least in Melbourne) the speed cameras are sometimes set up
to snap the fronts of vehicles, and sometimes the rear of vehicles. There
seem to be more set up to snap the fronts (in my experience), but perhaps you
just don't see as many set up the other way coz they're concealed by the car
that they're operated from.

We too have red light cameras, not to mention bus lane and transit lane
cameras.

As annoying as all this traffic camera technology is, I must (*sigh*) admit
that is does save lives, so we are better off with it than without. To me, it's
much the same as a tax. It's almost inevitable that you will be snapped at some
time or other.

BTW, does anyone out there know why the law requiring motor o&o to have a front
number plate was dropped? I can't think of anything apart from aesthetic
reasons. I can't imagine it being dropped for that. Can you?

Just my two bits,

Tony.

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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: speed camera
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:05:22 GMT

(Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:


 >I went through a speed camera at about 135. This was on the freeway
 >north of Sydney. BUT since the camera points towards the traffic,
 >I didn't get pinged. The policeman didn't even look up.


I received an email query about this. 

"Why does facing traffic make a difference."

Because a photo of the front of a bike doesn't identify a motorcycle.
It has no number plate on the front. 

I should have phrased my comment better - the camera is pointing to
the *oncoming* traffic, not the disappearing traffic.

                Brent.

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"I'm an urban guerrilla,      |   Brent Curtis         
 I make bombs in my cellar,   |   School of CompSci
 I'm a derelict-dweller,      |   UTS
 I'm a potential killer."     |   New South Wales      
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