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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:54:38 GMT

Ages ago, pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding) wrote:
 
>Ric Flair:
>7 NWA World titles (defeated, in order, Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race, Kerry Von
>Erich, Rhodes again, Ron Garvin, Rick Steamboat, and Sting.)
 
Or 8 or 9 times, depending on whether you recognize the "unofficial"
title change with Race in 1984 and the matches against Fujinami in 1991.
 
 
>2 WWF World titles (defeated, in order, Sid Justice and Randy Savage.)
>3 NWA U.S. titles (don't ask... before my time.)
 
I have him listed as a 5-time US champion (Mid-Atlantic version),
defeating Bobo Brazil, Mr. Wrestling, Rick Steamboat, Jimmy Snuka and
Greg Valentine between 1977 and 1980.
 
 
>2 NWA World tag titles, both with Greg Valentine (and there may be
more... I'm not sure.  
 
As Dominic has said, he also held the title very briefly with Blackjack
Mulligan in 1979.
 
 
> And, of course, too many regional titles to count.
 
It's not that many, actually.
 
His title record looks something like this:
("NWA Tag Team title" and "NWA US title" refer to the Mid-Atlantic
versions that today's WCW titles are traced to.)
 
1972     [Debuts in AWA]
1974     Mid-Atlantic Tag Team title, with Rip Hawk
1975     Mid-Atlantic TV title
1975     [Injured in plane crash]
1976     Mid-Atlantic title (twice)
1977     NWA Tag Team title, with Greg Valentine
1977     Mid-Atlantic TV title
1977     NWA US title
1977     Mid-Atlantic Tag Team title, with Greg Valentine
1977     NWA Tag Team title, with Greg Valentine
1978     NWA US title
1979     NWA US title
1979     NWA Tag Team title, with Blackjack Mulligan
1980     NWA US title (twice)
1981     NWA title
1983     Missouri title
1983     NWA title
1984     NWA title
1986     NWA title
1987     NWA title
1989     NWA title
1991     NWA title
1992     WWF title (twice)
 
--Gary Will
From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Relations -- Oct. 1992
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:36:20 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

From the marriages section of Wrestling Relations:
>Sam Houston & Baby Doll

According to an interview with Baby Doll in WT&N, Baby Doll & Sam Houston
are divorced.

-- 
Dominic Macika

"The nail that sticks up gets hammered down."
			Japanese proverb
From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Sgt. Slaughter
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:57:21 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I missed something over the summer I think. I've heard mention of Nailz
beating on Slaughter, haven't noticed Slaughter wrestling in the WWF for
quite awhile (though he has been in the USWA from what I hear), and now
he's back as a troubleshooting ref or something.

When did Nailz beat on Slaughter (or did he?)? How bad was it made out to be?
How did this get set up? I haven't heard any mention of it on the syndies,
just in here.

Thanks.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: News from GEnie
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:30:58 GMT

In <Andy.00rj@birdland.UUCP> Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio) writes:

>News of the GEnie Wrestling RoundTable:

>* Lou Albano may appear for SummerSlam.

Summer Slam, or Survivor Series? I would think the latter, as the
former occured last month!

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WRESTLING IS A SHAM  !!!!!!!!!
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:10:30 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <90574@netnews.upenn.edu>, THe Man who knows writes:
> I hope you all know that :-)
> 
> 				. .
> 				 !
> 				 -
> 								_	
> 				
> 

Oh, great... Trevor's back... just what we needed...

Dan Fielding.  President, Americans Against Trevor.
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Candy Guru)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Komet Kid (Looks like .....)
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:19:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Sep30.131932.13233
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1034@cybaswan.UUCP>, ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell) writes:
> Who thinks that the Komet Kid looks a little bit like, in body size, WCW's
> Super Invader???  

Who here knows that the Comet Kid is really Paul Diamond, formerly Kato?
(watches in delight as everybody but j hussell puts his/her hand up.)

> I saw the Komet Kid's debut match.  What a load of !@@@#%I((#@.  Mr. Perfect
> and Vince were commentating and Perfect said, "He's got a jet-pack!!"
> Sssshhhhhhyyyyyeeeeaaaaah, riiiight!!  And monkeys might fly outta my butt!

I don't know... do they?

> If Perfect had a braincell, he'd be dangerous, AND I DON'T CARE WHO TELLS
> HIM!!!!!

If you had a braincell, you'd be dangerous... and I *AM* telling you.

> I'am also wondering if what I hear is true; that some, if not most, of the 
> WWF superstars have access to this usenet newsgroup???  I was told by one of
> the guys over here!!!
> Apparently, the WWF have their own computer dept. so the stars have access to
> quite a few things.  Is this true, and if it is, Curt Hennig is an a*****e!!

Two other things...

(1) Although it IS improper netiquette, if you're going to swear, then SWEAR!  
    And I think you can get away with the word asshole without causing too much
    of a fuss.  I mean, if they can say the word "ass" on network TV, surely
    "asshole" is fine here.

(2) If the WWF REALLY had its own net linkup, and could read these posts,
    they'd know that we know who Razor Ramon really is... and that we think
    he's an unbelievably stupid character.  But then they'd get high on the
    fact that their gimmick is working... so what would be your point?  
    (What I think is beside the point is that nobody here really likes Randy
    Savage either, so the whole feud is basically a piece of trash.)

> Long live the Undertaker (and you know he will!!),

Mmmm... nah.  I don't think so...

Long live me.  Long live Sean Ryan.  Long live Don Becker.  Long live Eric
Chmiel.  Long live Dave Scherer.  Long live Dom Macika.  Long live Herb Kunze.
And long live everybody else who DOESN'T post the garbage that's printed in the
WWF Magazine.

> The Whizzkid.

Gee... could that be whizz as in the stuff that's the same colour as Mountain
Dew?  :-)


(I'm bored, AND in a bad mood... is it THAT obvious?)

The Candy Guru.
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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   10/01
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:35:55 GMT

In article <BvH3ts.3tC@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>
> - The Comet Kid (Paul Diamond) debuted on this TV this past weekend.  
>   The jet blasters propelling him up the stairs were a little silly,
>   but the wrestling wasn't bad.  There is talk that the Comet Kid  
>   gimmick will be dropped in favour of the "Maxamillion Moves" 
>   character who debuted at the Winnipeg TV tapings (apparently 
>   played by Diamond).  I find this hard to believe considering how
>   much Vince must have spent on the Comet Kid's costume.  

All it would involve is a name change, since the outfit was the same.

>
> - Butch was fired after missing a TV taping.  

No more Bushwhackers?  Oh, darn.  :)

>
> - The WWF has it's annual Survivor Series PPV from Richfield, PA,
>   on US Thanksgiving weekend.  Matches will include:
>      *- Randy Savage & Ultimate Warrior vs. Ric Flair & Razor Ramon
>           with trouble-shooting referee Sgt. Slaughter
>      *- Big Boss Man vs. Nailz in a nightstick match

Throw in Kamala vs. Undertaker in a coffin match.

>
     Daryl <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
From: lindemanbria@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Superstars of Wrestling
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:35:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: bvc.1992Sep27.113543.2103
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <Bv77on.KwA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes: 
>   Comet Kids debut.  Had two things on his arms.  Left arm shot streamers,
> right one shot flashes.  He did have a somewhat mexican style of wrestling.
> His opponent was Barry Horowitz.  "The winner" took the loss when Comet Kid
> picked him up in a fireman's carry a jumped forward, flipping over and 
> landing on top of Barry.  Best match of the week...
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, that's not saying much.  I saw another Comet Kid match on whatever
the other WWF syndicated show is.  In both matches, Diamond walked 
down the aisle wearing his Boba Fet outfit and shooting roman candles
from one arm and streamers from the other.  Only problem was that the
effect was totally lost on television.  Even worse, when he gets to the
stairs to enter the ring he pushes a button and shoots little puffs of
steam out his "jetpack" while hopping up to the next stair.  They used
a severe camera angle to try to sell this, to no avail.  The Comet Kid
suit reminds me of Van Vader as the Rocketeer.  This comic strip is
second in silliness only to Papa Shango.

The matches weren't much better.  Diamond has never been one that could
pull off aerial moves, and he still can't.  Very sluggish moves and
a drop kick that came closer to the front row spectators that to the
anonymous jobber.  The editing helped a little bit, but it's just 
not gonna work.  Vince would have been better off saving the Johnny
Bravo suit for a future draft pick.

>   Razor Ramon wrestled.  Backsuplex from the tope rope, followed by the
> Diamond Death Drop (what do they call it now?)

Perfect called it a "crucifix".

-- 
Brian Lindeman
LINDEMANBRIA@bvc.edu
I wanna be sedated.
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From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Company Men
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:12:28 GMT

In article <1adll6INNkr5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu (Lou Kipilman) writes:
>
>This is a dim memory, so excuse me if I'm off the mark. I remember a match
>rundown of classic cards in something like a 10th anniversary issue of PWI.
>They listed the WWF's Shea Stadium card, which had matches like Andre vs.
>Hogan (w/Fred Blassie), and the main event being Larry Zybyszko (sp) vs.
>Bruno Sammartino in a cage match. On the undercard, I think it listed a
>successful defense of the WWF junior heavyweight title by Greg Gagne. This
>was from circa 1980.

Greg was on the undercard of that Shea Stadium show, but he wan't defending
any title.  I think he wrestled Rick McGraw, and he definitely won his match.
He also wrestled in WWF MSG shows around that time.

--Gary Will

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From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter)
Subject: Re: Jake Roberts
Organization: Boise State University - CBI Product Development
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:08:54 GMT

In article <92272.07363634ALJYP@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
<34ALJYP@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>Last week I was Watching WCW and Heard Jake Roberst give a speach that
>went something like this. "It's not the beginning, It's not the end, It's
>not the Beginning of the end, but just the end of the beginning."
>Well I rented an old survivor searies (5).  and Lo and behold Jake gave
>the same speech towards Randy savage.  Is this speech a trademark of
>Jakes??  or just a coincidence.
>  I'm surprised Old Vince hasn't tried to copyright this speech.
>but then again if he could, he would.

That's a quote in a science fiction movie (Millennium, I believe), and they may
have quoted it from somewhere else as well.
                                     <->
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Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             (208)385-1851@phone
From: rwong@beach.csulb.edu (Robie Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: More brilliant ideas from Vince
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:30:19 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach


>Dare I ask who the Singing Cowboy will be?

How about Mean Mark Undertaker, with Bill Moody Bearer as his guitar-strummin'
sidekick?


In homage to the great urn,


The Grand Pooh-bah
From: wrdj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Two Things
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:29:05 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University


1. To Sean Ryan: Check the names before you start complaining about
   "newbies". While I don't post very regularly, I have been around
   for nearly four years. Most of the time I do not post because I
   don't have access to sheets or other info, accept this net, or
   the opinion I wanted to express has already been expressed 20
   times. Stop preaching to us about how many other more important
   things you have to do than read "newbie" questions or statements.
   If you are so importantly busy, put everyone in your "kill" file,
   and read only your own posts.

2. On to other, much more interesting topics. I'm interested to see
   Backlund's return. As a punk kid, I found him boring, but looking
   back, I appreciate him more and more. Part of my boredom with him
   were his programs at the Philadelphia Spectrum. Match One would
   be fought against some heel, who either made Backlund a complete
   underdog, or was some loud-mouthed braggart who everyone expected
   Backlund to trash. In Match One, Backlund would get destroyed at
   the end, totally battered, beaten, and humiliated, but the heel
   would get disqualified. Backlund would voe revenge. Match Two
   [next month] would have Backlund being battered, make a comeback,
   and go wild on his opponent, getting disqualified. Match Three
   would usually be a gimmick match, to decide a definate winner,
   with Backlund undoubtably winning. Next month the cycle would 
   repeat. This went on at the Spectrum for almost ALL of Backlund's
   reign. Does anyone know the circumstances of Bob and Vince's
   reconciliation? I thought the two hated each other.


Frank
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WCW screw up
Keywords: WCW tag belts
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:17:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <YKqMr*8h0@birdland.UUCP> uunet!tension!birdland!andy writes:
>WCW screwed things up a little tonight. In the advertisement for Halloween
>Havoc, Jim Ross talked about Windham/Rhodes being the new WCW tag champs
>defending the belts against the Steiners.
>
>Buuuuut.... the match for the tag belts hasn't aired yet. Oops.
>

  Actually, it aired on WCW Saturday night this weekend. WCW has done a
  pretty good job lately keeping those errors to a minimum.  Especially
  when compared to last Spring,  I remember seeing Zybysco teaming up with
  the Dangerous Alliance on WCW World Wide a week after he broke up with
  the Dangerous Alliance on WCW Saturday night! You never see those types
  of things happen in the WWF, and it really makes WCW look like a second
  rate organization.

  Getting back to Winham/Rhodes vs. Steiners.  This match isn't going to
  take place at Halloween Havoc because Rick Steiner is injured.  Next
  weekend, they are going to change the match to Windham/Rhodes vs. Gordy/
  Williams.

  Rob C.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:57:29 EDT
From: <WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits - 10/01

SS will be in Richfield, OH not Richfield, PA.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: WCW TV Taping: Scott Steiner TV Champ
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:16:23 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <5OCT199217504326@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA) writes:


+>>The Scott Steiner angle was very confusing!!! 

+>This is not a flame, but most of what you wrote was confusing. Assuming you 
+>were 100% on the mark,  most of the stuff that happened makes no sense to 
+>me what so ever.  I haven't been keeping up with WCW very closely for a bit 
+>but nothing I've seen or read could help me make sense out of what you saw.
+>At this rate, the WWF has nothing to worry about. Good or Bad, There is
+>something to be said for consistency and continuity.

	This is the old Bill Watts style.  It replaces scripted heel vs.
face predictability with total unpredictability.  If your conditioned
to the telegraph and explain everything that has predominated in NA for
years, it takes some getting used to.  

	I like that faces and heels are not these monolitic we-all-love
-each-other groups.  I dont mind faces getting angry at, or not being
"buddies" with every other face or guys who are potrayed as ambiguous
and in it to win at any cost.


	But then again, my views are influenced by the old days of the
AWA when all the marks would hate nick bockwinkle for around 11 months 
a year.  Then suddenly they would bring in the evil foreign threat(tm)
who was going to take the belt back to Iraq or Japan....at which time
half the marks would rally to bockwinkle's side.  After the match, things
would of course go back to normal.  But all the same, I think that having
one match where a heel champion can play the "face" for a little while
is necessary to maintain a title's credibility.
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: More brilliant ideas from Vince
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:54:36 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
Keywords: New wrestler
Summary: Oh boy, this is bad
Expires: never
Distribution: world
Organization: What organization?
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

For those of you offended by HHRrrazor, HhRrramon, here's an even better
brainstorm from Sir Vince.

The Singing Cowboy.

Yes, 'tis true. People on GEnie have been talking about it. As if Da 
Mountie's singing wasn't bad enough. Perhaps that'll be the basis of their
fued... who's the better singer.

BTW, someone posted that Sgt. Slaughter will referee the main event at
Survivor Series.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Col. Devon McKnight)
Subject: Re: Review of APBA or PtP's Pro Basketball??
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 12:03:50 EDT

In article <1aia1aINNiog@uwm.edu> allan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Allan M Sellers) writes:
>
>
>	I'm looking for a review of either (or both) APBA's Pro
>	Basketball or PtP's Pro Basketball.  Has anyone played either
>	of these games (IBM)??  I'd really appreciate any comments.

	I own APBA's version 1.02.  They recently came out with v2.0, though,
which seems to pick on all the holes left by 1.02.  My main beef was with the
fact that there is no playoff system.  2.0 has one.
	As for the sim itself, I am more than happy with it.  It is quite 
realistic, for the most part.  I replayed the NBA season (1990-91) twice, with
the "autoschedule" feature, which allows you to set and play a schedule 
automatically.  In the first one, Phoenix, with 64 wins, had the best regular
season record.  Boston, with 62, had the best record in the East, with Chicago
one game back.  In the playoffs, Boston survived a grueling 7 game series with
Chicago to make it to the finals.  In the West, Houston came out of nowhere
(well, actually a 7 seed), defeating Phoenix, Portland, and the Lakers, if I
remember properly, not in that order, to reach the finals.  Boston won it in 4.
	The second version was much more realistic.  The regular season was 
much more realistic.  Chicago had 62 wins to lead the east, but Phoenix led the
West again, this time with 60 wins.  I didn't run the playoffs the second time
around.
	Overall, it's reallly a good simulation.  It has injuries, easy 
transactions, and an automatic coaching option.  Get v2.0 now, and you can get
the 1966-67 team disk, as well as the 1991-92 team disk!  Order today! :-)

				- Dev
From: prabu@cs.utexas.edu (Prabu Muthu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: FANTASY BASKETBALL LEAGUE
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:22:14 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.cs.utexas.edu

Is anyone else out there planning on running a fantasy basketball league of 
some sort?  I was really looking forward to joining one (not for any $$, but
for the fun of it), but it looks like the only one I've seen advertised on
here so far is already filled up.

I've never been in a fantasy basketball league before, but I have been in one 
fantasy (baseball) league before.  If anyone who can read this article *is* 
running one and needs at least one more owner, please mail me at 
prabu@cs.utexas.edu.

Thanks a bunch,
Prabu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
From: prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount)
Subject: Where are they now
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:33:18 GMT
Keywords: after college, anywhere?

Are any of these people playing pro/semi-pro basketball (college in paren)

Jamie Latney (Fairleigh Dickinson)
Richie Mount (Purdue)


Were any of these guys drafted by any NBA (or other teams)

Chris Jent (Ohio State)
Jean Prioleau (Fordham)]
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Carolwhiney Tarholes (not)
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <ld0tk0INNf55@priddy.cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard  
Byron Ward) writes:
> In article <5688@news.duke.edu> seth@mivax.mc.duke.edu (His Majestic Highness  
> the Seth) raved:
> |
> [nonsensical, drug-induced garbage deleted]
> |
> |     H I S   M A J E S T I C   H I G H N E S S   T H E   S E T H 
> |                            (HMHS)

Sorry, but as I recall this was a Durhamwhiney Blue Devil person posting.
I guess he managed to fail in two ways.

O.

--
* "In 27 years of marriage, Todd never noticed Marie's tentacle" *
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:57:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <18644.2acf2b2a@ecs.umass.edu> rajain@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>	Hmmm! So far *no* mention of the "Rage in the Cage" at
>	UMASS!!! ? Strange! veddy strange!!! The ceiling started falling
>	apart last year when the crowd was screaming during the Temple
>	game!! <of course, the "age" of the Cage had nothing to do 
>	with it ;-)>!!! 

Oh, geeesh!  This thread started out with somebody mentioning "The Cage",
which I disputed, because I have hardly heard of many major upsets
occurring at that place.  Hell, before UMASS!!! had a decent team last
year, they had major problems filling that place, from what I have heard.

The amazing circular thread....  Would anybody like to start this one over
again?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu