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From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FIDO gateway!!!
Keywords: FIDO mailer external mail UUCP
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:24:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.0qBFuB3w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

mlewis@wplace.UUCP (Mark Lewis) writes:

> ahhhh, but with Waffle v1.65 you can use WAFFLE ONLINE <DTE_SPEED> instead
> of having to use the LOCKED PORT RATE... especially if you are using the
> FOSSIL driver for Waffle (since it is loaded for FrontDoor) and you have
> told Waffle that you are running a locked port<<grin>>...

  Yes, I know BUT how does one know the actual speed when FroDo drops out
to the batch file?  I never could find a way to do this, but am guessing it
can be done with enough fiddling.  My method works here when I run FroDo,
so I didn't fix it.  ;-)

> also, with a frontend mailer, you can drop straight to UUCICO instead of
> having to go thru Waffle... yes, going thru Waffle will log the call in 
> Waffle's callers log but some systems are slow enuff that for speed 
> considerations, they may want to go straight to UUCICO...

  Yes, I also know this but my connections want more security so I drop
them into Waffle first.  It also makes my system look more like a regular
*NIX box this way.  All uucp sites come in here the exact same way
regardless of speed just fine.

> that will work... though a better method is to have the calling system(s)
> look for the "Press <ESC>" part of that string, and send the two <ESC>
> characters OR the required string...

  Perhaps, but not necessarily the same amongst different mailers.  My
method allows me to switch mailers without breaking *any* uucp chat
scripts.  My method is best for me, but may not be for others.  ;-)

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From: liam%alehaus.uucp@brewich.hou.tx.us (liam)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: waffle and compression utils
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:12:59 CST
Organization: The Alehaus, a Brewer's Witch affiliate, alehaus@brewich.hou.tx.us

        I am running waffle 1.65 and was wondering if there is any 
problem with using HD compression software with it (ie stacker) as I am 
starting to run low on space and can't afford a new HD. 
                                                thanks,
                                                        Liam

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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: WafHist update
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:06:17 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

I have corrected a major bug in WafHist.  This bug was responsible for im-
proper behaviour when the program was called with the -batch option.  The
result of the bug was that no duplicates were either detected or deleted,
when running in the -batch mode.  This problem has been resolved.  If you'd
care to receive the updated program, drop me a reply, and I'll send it along.

If you'd rather, it's in my files area (/public/waffle/wafhist.zip).  First-
time callers get full access to the FILES command, so feel free.

The program is approximately the same size as before, and the UUENCODED zip-
file still takes up seven batches, just as before.

> wc c:/wafhist/*.uue

   <lines> <words><bytes>
     956     973   59053   c:/wafhist/wafhist1.uue
     955     970   59029   c:/wafhist/wafhist2.uue
     955     970   59029   c:/wafhist/wafhist3.uue
     955     970   59029   c:/wafhist/wafhist4.uue
     955     970   59028   c:/wafhist/wafhist5.uue
     955     970   59029   c:/wafhist/wafhist6.uue
     876     898   54081   c:/wafhist/wafhist7.uue
    6607    6721  408278   total

> ls -l c:/public/waffle/wafhist.zip

-rwxrwxrwa  1  com  0  295622  Nov 21 12:35  c:/public/waffle/wafhist.zip


If you've had a chance to take a look at the earlier copy I sent, please feel
free to send back whatever comments you might have, either compliments or
otherwise.  In particular, I'd like to correct whatever bugs or limitations
you come across.

I've put together a short mailing list of all those who requested the program,
wafhist-users@willard.uucp will get to the mailing list.  Administrative
requests should be sent back to me, though I expect there to be really no
traffic other than my own announcements....

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From: fred@walter.UUCP (Fred Walter)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: UUPC 1.11w and NEWS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:48:44 GMT
Organization: GRW Enterprises

peter@pgeck.sub.org (Peter Gahbler) writes:
>With trn I haven't been able to find out how to read old news.

You want to re-read news that you've already read ? I suggest you get
trn docs from somewhere (two improvements to that trn package that would
be useful: include source and docs) and read those first.

	1) edit your .newsrc file and change the list of articles read
	   so that you have none marked as being read.
	2) trn, g group, and once you are in the group, reading articles, 
	   use P (as in shift-p) to go to the previous article, and keep
	   on backing up. Or enter the article number. Or ^P. Or ...

    fred
From: ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (Scott Sanbeg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Cannot Tango - Reason RLOGIN
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:26:01 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market - Spokane, WA

In article <1992Nov22.182732.24983@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>What do I need to do, or tell the system administarator of my host system to  
>do.

I've seen this before while attempting to connect to a UNIX host - the
host wasn't completely configured properly for Waffle to login via
uucp. In this case, your site must have a user_id, group_id and uucp
shell (uucico) account created, as well as entries in the permissions
and systems files; your waffle login probably has to have a password
which matches between your two sites.

If the problem is Waffle, go into the admin area of Waffle and copy
the account uucp to that_host_name; i.e. copy uucp visual
Scott

 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News/mail reader
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:08:23 GMT
Organization: Vector Zero

tcbowden@clovis.felton.ca.us (Timothy Bowden) writes:

> dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:
> 
> > (in the more experimental realm--)
> > Another thing I want to try is building an optional keyword index from
> > all articles on the system (either subject, full text, or both) and 
> > allow global searches.
>  
> Good, good.  Maybe a news threader so we can follow by subject
> and then revert back to where we were and even have all the
> articles in the thread taken out of the queue?

     Makes me think more of Killfiles--or, specifically, of the
opposite of Killfiles.  Interest files.
     Build the global database and then the user creates a list of
topics he's interested in.  Stick in people's names if you like
reading their articles.  Add in keywords for interesting postings,
then reverse-thread to the start of the Subject: list to read the
postings in chronological order.  Sounds neat to me.

Example:
     keywords: sex,drugs,rock,roll
     from: John Palmer,BIFF

     Could bring up any posts matching any of the above criteria
in the joined groups.

--Jon

   jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US                     Life is like a kiwi.
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Memory while logged in.
Date: 14 Nov 92 08:40:16 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> With DOS low and nothing special set, I had 290k.  With DOS High, and 
> a couple of other minor things I had 315k, and now with my most recent
> changes I have 390k free while logged in.
> What do the rest of you have for free memory while logged in???
     I've got 316,104 of the base 640K free-- I've got 2 MB total RAM.
This includes a BUNCH of TSR's loaded high, including DOS5.0 command.com,
share, print, smartdrv, qemm (6.02), and a few other generic TSR's.

                                   Jeff


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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Expire vs. Keep (was: Re: argh! leftover .D ...)
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:52:23 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

> I know, but how much do I want to keep? I dont want things flying
> through here like alt.activism and can.politics with a keep of 100.
> Thats barely a day in both groups. I want to see how often things pop up
> in general perusals of output from UUXQT to see that can.politics comes
> up alot.

My gosh, man...you sound like you're a perfect candidate for using an 
expire program.

> Another way, which is easier actually, is just to compare how high the
> highest message number in the group is from the stats output. Since I've
> only recently been getting news, I can do this. can.politics is
> something around 1600 and alt.slack is around 40, for about three or
> four weeks. Obviously I set can.politics to about 400 and alt.slack to
> about 50 or 75.

Using an expiry program, you would set things like 'tor.weather-report' 
to, say, 48 hours, comp.bbs.waffle to, say, 372 hours, and alt.sex to, 
say, 98000 hours.  :-)

Anyways, it works much better than the keep option -- just because an 
area has too much traffic your users won't be penalized for not logging 
in every 5 minutes and reading, as well, just because an area has 1 
message a month your users won't have to read the last 50 months worth of 
material.

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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to request a file?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:38:05 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong) writes:

-> Would somebody help me hrequest a file from
-> a known node, and how to send a file to a known address?


RTFM
network.doc
USING UUCP TO TRANSFER FILES





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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News/mail reader
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 17:58:39 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> > Ok, let's have a counter example.  Supposing files are sorted by creation
> > date/time (as would apparently be the case with your technique).  Suppose
> > there were no new articles, and one was expired.  The users' join files
> > are now out of sync:
> > 
> >     Before unbatching : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
> >     After unbatching  : 1, 2, 3, 4
> > 
> No, the expired article would be #1, and no resequencing would
> take place because 2-5 is contiguous.

Well, I must admit that I did not look at DupWeed to see exactly how the
re-sequencing was being done.  I gathered that messages were being renumbered,
based on what the highest-numbered free-filename was, which in the above
example would be '1', if resequencing was done after expiration.  I suppose
it would be '2' if the renumbering was done before expiration.

Your approach does look safe, unless I've overlooked something...

> 
> > Suppose there was one new article, and one was expired.  No change to the
> > users' join files, but it now points one too high:
> > 
> >     Before unbatching : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
> >     After unbatching  : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
> Again, the expired article would be #1, and the new article would
> be #6. 2-6 is contiguous, no resequencing is done.

Same explanation for my reasoning in the earlier example, mostly being that
I had not looked at the implementation of DupWeed, but was instead making
inferences from previous discussion.

> Too simple for use on a full news spool, most definately. It
> works fine for the purpose I wrote it for, which is to allow
> some network redundancy on two SMALL LOCAL news hierarchies.

OK.

> Resequencing simply keeps the article names contiguous, something
> I like to have. Doesn't 'enhance the general operation' of 
> anything. 

OK.  Just wondered if there was some benefit I'd overlooked...

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Waffle w/Unix & hi-speed modems
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:24:47 GMT

mgallagh@enigma1.COM (Mike Gallagher) writes:

>I am interested in setting up Waffle under a Unix system, but with 
>trying to match hard/soft-ware compatibilities, it can be  long task.

Possibly, but it shouldn't be.

>For example, can Waffle work under Concensus Unix? Is anyone running it
>under Linux? 

There are linux Waffles.

>To run multi-line, an intelligent multi-port serial board would be
>required. Has anyone experience with Waffle in multi-line?

We run Waffle on a MicroVAX-III with 16 modem lines.  We're not
using an multi-port boards, but do have a pair of DEC 200MC
terminal servers on it.  We ran off a multi-port MUX (Emulex,
I think) for a while, but 7E1 (and strip the highbit) logins
didn't cut it.  Eleven of the modems are SUPRA 14.4's and the
rest are Telebit T-2500's.  All operate at fixed DTE rates
of 19200, the limit of our 200MC's.

>For example, many hi-speed modems may be Hayse-compatible, but most 
>14.4k's add extra features. Before they flash CONNECT xxxx, they also
>report such things as CARRIER xxxx. Shutting those msgs off usally shuts
>off CONNECT msg as well. I suppose with Unix-install, I'd obviously need
>the Sources [& would want them anyway], so I guess I could just add in
>recognition for those msgs. 

The advantage to using the terminal servers is that they don't care
what result codes are thrown at them.  We turn off the result codes
in any event.  I think this is a common habit.  

>But I guess what I'm asking for other Unix-Waffle users' experiences.

Waffle's a piece of cake.  Well, almost.  As with any Unix set-up
permissions are everything.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: News/mail reader
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:59:27 GMT

In comp.bbs.waffle you write:
>Get your mailer-daemon properly configured so that .UUCP does not show up
>as a top-level domain.  Routing of mail to sites in the .UUCP domain
>should be done via paths info generated by pathalias from the UUCP maps.

pathalias should be taken out and shot.  it's time has passed for most folks.
seriously, everyone...get MX'd. domainize your headers.  let bang-paths die.

(and yes, I agree they shouldn't be doing DNS lookups of .uucp stuff
and that their sendmail shouldn't list the non-existent .uucp domain as
being 'real').

>zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
>>I just got it from the Path the news message travelled to get to my site.
>>
>>works fine.. 
>Which is easy for informed, experienced news readers.

not necessarily.

'real news' using 'real newsreaders' are generally configurable to
either reverse the (very slow...very, VERY slow) path backwards to
you, which assumes that nobody in between (can you say 'rutgers')
militantly reroutes stuff.

or....

they permit you to say 'no way I will use bang paths...use SMTP style),
which is what they probably should be set to do in most instances.
reversing the bang path isn't necessarily the right thing.

>the outside to some local addresses (e.g., morpheus!dawson@bselab.bls.com)
>works, but not to others.  This is somewhat out of my control, though I've
>been offering tactful suggestions to the administrator of the system acting
>as MX record holder and email forwarder, and we hope to have this situation
>resolved in the very near future.

if you need that form of addresses, you need to stomp (not tactfully) your
local MX forwarder or find another one. If they've agreed to be your MX
forwarder, and they can't figure out how to do it, or aren't willing to 
devote the time to do it right, they should be stomped HARD.  There's nothing
worse then doing it half-assed. You can't depend on it...your downstream
sites can't either...nobody who talks to any of you can trust it...gross
situation.

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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: HELP! Wafmail batch files
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:13:09 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

| spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:
| 
| > I have a problem with Wafmail.

| I figured out a few things, but it would seem that no one here cares
| about WAFMAIL.

I would disagree with that statement!

I once considered writing a QWK offline reader for Waffle, but was told that
WafMail v3.0 would be out Real Soon Now and I shouldn't waste my time.

WafMail v1.0 is a known Bug Haven and probably ought to be avoided, I suspect.

| Ken Chasse - Sonic Interzone, Toronto Ont. * Inet: sizone!spooge@ee.ryerson.c


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From: imb@bart.asstdc.oz.au (michael butler)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FIDO gateway!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:15:00 +1100

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

 DD> I run FrontDoor and Waffle - it just happens that Waffle is
 DD> my BBS.  Ergo, when a user calls in, they see "Press [ESC] twice to 
 DD> enter Waffle" and upon hitting the usual "I'm a human, let me into the 
 DD> BBS" magic handshake, all works fine.  All Usenet connects have to do 
 DD> is use their UNIX scripts and allow for an extra length of time before
 DD> the "ogin" shows up.

If they're going to hack the call script to do that, you might as well install
a preceding couple of strings to make it work more quickly. In my script to
call another FD system running Waffle's UUCICO, I use ..

    toFDWaff   "" \r\p\r\p "" uucp "" uucp "" uucp

 .. and the owner that of the system has "uucp" defined as a string to cause
an exit with a DOS errorlevel (FDSETUP Mailer->External_Mail, String & Level).
That errorlevel can take you direct to UUCICO without going via the BBS itself
.. much faster :-)

    michael

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From: nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: How to request a file?
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:41:38 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

Would somebody help me hrequest a file from
a known node, and how to send a file to a known address?
Thanks.

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From: chicken@jemicy.uucp (Mike Ezrine)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: shell greif and util list
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:43:47 EST
Organization: Jemicy School

we just set waffle up and it is working quite well
though when we shell to dos from time to time it gets keys
that people tyoppe wrong like it might type cd \waffle and I get
cd \waggle and if I do it again the same thing. any ideas
second anyone have a complete list of util more complete then the one
on wuarchive?
please respond via e-mail.
thanksd
Mike
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: g89r4222@kudu.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet)
Subject: Smail
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:23:37 GMT


Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has done a port of smail for use with
waffle - particularly the ability to handle batched mail feeds -
i.e is there any software for waffle which will handle
compressed, batched mail, of the form used by smail.

Cheers, Geoff.
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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,sbay.waffle
Subject: Fun with OS/2 2.0 (was Fun with MS Windows)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:05:24 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

> I found an interesting thing quite by accident.
> 
> Waffle was merrily chugging along with a uuxqt job, when I
> inadvertently started uuxqt in another window.
> 
> It appeared that the two windows leapfrogged each other whilst
> unbatching.  It was fun to watch...for awhile.  When they both tried
> to open the same batch, things got crazy.
> 
[description of what happened deleted].

On my system I continuously run UUXQT while UUCICO is receiving files,
at one point I accidentally ran the wrong UUCICO batch file, the one
with UUXQT after UUCICO.  When it ran, it had two UUXQT going at the
same time.  Then all of a sudden it starts
  Out of synch
  Out of synch
  Out of synch
  ...
going like crazy on the screen.  CTRL-ESC  (os/2 system)  and close
the sessions with UUXQT going, and restart UUXQT and all was fine.

Another thing that happens is when one UUXQT renames or copies the 
file to batch1 and batch1 is already there, then it stops and simply
says...
  batch1 already exists, do you wish to overwrite existing batch1 (Y/N)?

Then just wait for the other UUXQT to finish, come back to this session
and answer Y, and you finish the last packet (when working on news).

I've solved 98% of the problems by having two icons I run.  
one is UUXQT -crnews and the other is UUXQT -crmail.  I can run these
simultaneously to process news and mail separately.

Greg


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