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From: Lars.Grande@geotek.sintef.no (Lars Grande)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing in Southern Sweden/Norway
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:46:54 GMT
Organization: SINTEF Geotechnical Engineering, N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY

In article <1993Jan21.154101.414@uts.uni-c.dk> malcolm@cm2f.uni-c.dk (Malcolm Brown) writes:
>From: malcolm@cm2f.uni-c.dk (Malcolm Brown)
>Subject: Skiing in Southern Sweden/Norway
>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:41:01 GMT
>Hi,
>
>I have been posted to Copenhagen by my company, and I would like 
>to do some skiing. Since Denmark doesn't have any snow I thought of
>Southern Sweden or Norway.
>
>Can anyone give me recommendations of good places for cross country or
>downhill skiing not too far from Copenhagen, which could be reached for 
>a weekend trip. 
>
>	Thanks,
>
>		Malcolm
>
>
>
You may have got responses already. This just to inform you that there are 
cheap flights Copenhagen Trondheim. Trondheim by now has fair skiing 
conditions even within the town borders. Mountain resorts like Oppdal (one 
of the greatest in Norway), Meraaker and Storlien and Aare (last two in 
Sweden) lies within a distance of 150km by train. Have a look at NTH at the 
same time?

Good luck

Lars
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From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: New Mexico snow/ski report
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 23:26:58 GMT


>> 
>>   Thats because New Mexican inches seem to be smaller than the CO variety!
>> 

HA!  ...I just moved to Denver from Albuquerque and the inches in CO are
not bigger.  CO just has lots of man-made snow where a 2 inch layer is solid
enough to stampede cattle on.  Geese... coming from Idaho, I thought I'd
seen it all when I saw people skiing over rocks in New Mexico.  But then I
come to Colorado where one must be careful that the skiiers above you don't
roll hundred pound boulders your way!



                                    NCW
 
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From: leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum)
Subject: Re: Helmets (again): Skiing Safety
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:32:41 GMT

In article <C1Fppv.2n6C@austin.ibm.com> karner@austin.ibm.com (F. Karner) writes:
>
>Isn't the analogy: Wearing a helmet when riding a motorcycle more
>appropriate?  

No.  A helmet with a visor like the downhill racers wear will obstruct
your vision and hearing.  I'm sure it will save your head if some fool
runs into you, but it would be much better on the whole if you saw the fool
first and got out of the way. By wearing a helmet you're just more likely
to get hit in such a situation.

>In this state it is compulsory...  You don't think
>they're helpful?  Ask Gary Busey for his opinion on the subject.

Yes I think motorcycle helmets are helpful, I even wore one before it became
law here in CA.  Nonetheless, I hate the law and vehemently oppose it.  Now
I *always* have to wear a helmet, even if all I'm doing is going a mile
down the road to buy some milk or just want to go for a quick spin on a
sunny summer day.  But that discussion should be held in rec.motorcycles,
not here.

>
>One cannot assume that all accidents that affect the head are
>caused by schussing down the mountain out of control.  

I never did, but that's precisely the situation for which ski helmets are
designed.

>I had a very
>close call a few weeks ago, and definitely will look for a helmet in the
>future.  You got to protect the 'ole coconut', you know.
>-- 

I'm sorry if you got hurt.  Definitely wear a helmet if it makes you feel
safer.  I wouldn't advise it though.  

>
>         DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this posting are mine
>            solely and do not represent my employer in any way.
>       F. A. Karner AIX Technical Support | karner@austin.vnet.ibm.com


Leo Dagum
From: klaus@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Klaus B. Biggers)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Storm Restriction, Deer Valley, Utah
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:15:55 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu

In article <1993Jan22.061245.1912@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:

>So when do you think Ootah's going to try an anti-gay law?

Not Utah's style. They have proposed a 100% tax on condoms to
help subsidize the school lunch program. Much more profitable.
Also known as "sin-tax". Just like the beer... Don't let anyone
tell you that you can't get "strong" beer in Utah. You can...
it just costs a bit more... okay... I lied... a *LOT* more.
And guess where the money goes......

A law is actually being proposed in the legislature that would limit
tax deductions to 6 kids. It would save the state 2 billion dollars.
Just think how many pumps that would buy for the Great Salt Lake.
Anyone wanna bet on whether that'll pass or not?? oops.. I take that
back... can't bet in this state... but maybe we could play bingo?

-klaus                                              klaus@ced.utah.edu

   Favorite sign: "Watch for snowplows in your lane" .....  no shit!
From: acooper@nuustak.csir.co.za (Antony Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Verbier, Switzerland - conditions in late March?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:55:54 +0200
Organization: CSIR, South AFrica
NNTP-Posting-Host: nuustak.csir.co.za
X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed below are purely personal
X-Disclaimer: and in no way represent the official view of CSIR.

Hi All!

Ideally, I'd like an accurate prediction of the snow conditions, for the
last two weeks of March, for the area around Verbier in Switzerland, but
according to the FAQ one should not ask such questions!  :-)

Seriously, though, what are the snow conditions there now? In general,
would they improve or get worse by the end of March? Living in a hot,
Southern Hemisphere country, I have no experience with European winters!
How crowded are the slopes likely to be around that time of the year?

There has been some discussion here about the merits of radar reflectors
and radio beacons. I am a rank beginner, having skied only once (at
Loveland, Colorado), so I will confine myself to the marked pistes. Are
such devices necessary for a skier such as myself? What about insurance
to cover the need to be casavaced-off by helicopter?

PS: Thanks to the keepers of the FAQs and to all you who contribute to the
high signal to noise ratio in this news group.

Thanking you in anticipation
Antony

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From: timsc@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Tim Schneider)
Subject: Re: New Mexico snow/ski report
	<1993Jan21.170330.3077@edsr.eds.com>
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:59:26 GMT
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** In article <1993Jan21.170330.3077@edsr.eds.com>, hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:

  Kelly> What's the name of the ski area around Pinetop, close to the
  Kelly> Mogollon Rim?

Apache Sunrise  (run by the White Mountain Apache Tribe)  9 lifts
about 4.5-5 hours drive from Phoenix. 



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From: poahbear@leland.Stanford.EDU (David G Lawson)
Subject: Whistler/Blackcomb Report
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:09:03 GMT

    9:30am January 27th
    -2C Alpine 0C Valley  210cm base
    38cm new overnight, 172cm new in past 9 days (!!)
    Snowing heavily in the alpine, lightly in the valley
    Heavy Snow Warning through tonight with further 40cm expected (!!)

    Looks like things are back to normal :)
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing: goggles, glasses and FOG!
Keywords: Help me!
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:28:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>I came really close last month to breaking down and buying one of those
>Turbo goggles with the battery powered fan.  It was a situation where I
>really needed to see and I hate glasses and goggles.  It's the glasses
>which fog, not the goggles.

I thought they were a dumb gimmick, but a few years ago my wife bought me
a pair as a gift, so I HAD to try them. Surprisingly, they work very
well. I find that my glasses only fog up when skiing slow, standing around
waiting for someone (like my wife...maybe that's why she got them for me...
never mind), or on a lift. If I turn the fan on right away, the glasses
clear up in a few seconds, and I rarely (if ever) have to stop skiing to turn
them on. There is no need to leave them on for long, so the battery last
a long time. But the noise is noticable to someone near by or on the
same chair, and I've gotten some strange looks from people who didn't
know what they were!

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: censtad@nic.gac.edu (Topher the Gustie)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Rename rec.skiing to rec.outdoors.skiing
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:24:09 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
Distribution: world
Reply-To: censtad@nic.gac.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: dion.gac.edu

In article <RIGG.93Jan25113920@valeron.che.wisc.edu>  writes:
> Recently, an official RFD (Request For Discussion) was posted to
> several group suggesting that several groups be moved to the
> rec.outdoors. hierarchy which currently contains just
> rec.outdoors.fishing.

I think it's same to assume WHY there is only one thing there... it's just  
making it too wordy.  Rec.skiing should stay where it is... move fishing  
over here.
--
Chris Enstad
Gustavus Adolphus College			Are you experienced?
St. Peter, MN 56082
From: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: No one skiing at Tahoe?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:59:17 GMT
Reply-To: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Organization: Chevron CEPS

In article <1k1for$9a4@agate.berkeley.edu>, stanford@aster (Adam Stanford) 
writes:

> We were at Alpine Meadows on Saturday(the 23rd) and
> that was pretty full - lift lines often 10 minutes -
> and not good conditions either.  Northstar on Sunday
> (the 24th) had much better conditions (though nowhere
> near as good as the previous weekend) and similar lift lines.
> This past weekend was basically the first since all the
> snows which has had clear skies so the Tahoe area was
> jammed.  It was bumper-bumper on I-80 westbound late
> yesterday afternoon from Truckee for many miles.
> If the jet stream stays north and the high pressure
> continues the Tahoe area will likely get jammed every
> weekend.  I heard Incline had relatively good snow -
> can anybody confirm?

We skied Mt Rose on Sunday (24th) and they had EXCELLENT snow.  Crowded, 
for there. (10 min lines on the Rose side, 5 mins on the Slide side).

Squaw on Monday.  Crowded for a mid-week day.  Very icy, tho some good snow 
off of Siberia and Granite Chief.  But half way down, watch out.  KT saddle was 
bulletproof.


Beverly M. Zalan
bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Deep slab instability in Sierra?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:01:50 GMT
Distribution: ca

In article <1993Jan26.201010.29609@delfin.com> mark@delfin.com writes:
>Anyone dug a snow pit recently. Normally, I don't worry too much about
>deep slab instability in the Sierra but with that amount of snow and the
>speed with which it came down I wonder if there aren't a few weak layers
>way down there.

I was hoping to dig one this past weekend in Sequoia, but work intervened.
There are at least two layers I have recorded which I worry about, but
the rain is another factor.  I will probably dig one either this coming
weekend (if I don't split to Alta instead) or next week while I am skiing with
the glaciologists).  Of course your region will vary.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
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From: alasdair@cs.man.ac.uk (Alasdair Rawsthorne)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Ski Map Exchange
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:26:38 GMT

Anyone interested in exchanging ski maps?

I have copies of skiers' maps of "les 3 vallees" in France (one linked
area with 190 lifts, 1230 snowguns, 600km marked trails, 100km of
ungroomed itineraries, between 3200m and 600m).  The map is approx 16"
by 32", double sided, with an overview of the entire area on one side,
and 3 detailed maps of each of the constituent resorts on the other.

I'm particularly interested in getting some New Zealand maps, but Utah
would also be nice.

Not interested in: France, Italy, Spain, Colorado, Tahoe area, New
England, Alberta, or Whistler/Blackcomb (been there, done that...)

So, *email* me with what you've got!

Alasdair

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From: chris@luchs (Christian Forst)
Subject: Re: Austria
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:25:28 GMT

eman@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch (Eric S. Maniloff) writes:
: 
: I'm planning a road trip for early march, and we're currently planning to 
: spend 5 days in Austria.  Has anyone out there been skiing in Austria, and
: if so can you recommend any areas for skiing?  The swiss person looking over
: my shoulder requires me to note that I'm from America, since no Swiss person
: would ever go to Austria, admit to going to Austria, or ask advice.

Good to hear that this old 'relationship' between Swiss and Austrians still
exist ;-P.
: 
: Eric
: 
	Christian
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From: barry@dingus.osf.org (Barry Perlman)
Subject: Middlebury, VT 
Keywords: Middlebury Vermont VT inn xc-ski
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:39:11 GMT


Hi,
	I am looking for recommendations for inns in Middlebury, VT.
If you have been to one, please let me know what you thought of the
place.
	Also, if you have anything to tell me about restaurants or
sights or cross-country ski trails in the Middlebury area, please
respond.

	Please respond directly to: barry@osf.org 

	Thanks,
	Barry
	

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Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:11:26 -0500 
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Skiing: goggles, glasses, and FOG!

In Chuck Yeager's autobiography, he mentions fogging problems on the
X-1's canopy.  Apparently the air force supplied a $1000-per-bottle
anti-fog solution, but his crew chief used some ordinary drug-store
commodity with much better results.  Possibly a thin (thus transparent)
layer of shampoo?  I don't remember exactly.  But its in that book.
 
It's a long shot, but I hope this helps.
 
        -- Martin

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: rizzi@netcom.com (m. rizzi)
Subject: Re: No one skiing at Tahoe?
Organization: Live from Oakland, California
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:46:07 GMT

ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu writes:
>An article in today's Sunday San Francisco Examiner reported that Lake
>Tahoe businesses are complaining that media reports have scared off tourists
>from visiting the area at a time of the best snowfall in years.

>Anyone notice a drop off in skiiers on the slopes? Maybe now's a good time to 
>get up there.
>
>
	I was up at Squaw Valley the last two days...it RAINED
	just before I got there...20 feet of beautiful snow
	covered with a nice thick layer of ice.  Made for some
	interesting skiing.  It was fun watching the variety
	of ways people slid down steep faces.  :)


rizzi
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mdonahue@novell.com (Mike Donahue)
Subject: Discount Tickets to Park City?
Keywords: Skiing Park City Discount Ticket
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:11:10 GMT

I am going to ski Park City Saturday.  I know that you can get discount 
tickets to other Wasatch ski sites, but can I get one for Park City anywhere 
in Provo or Orem?

If not, whats an all day pass cost?


Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: edlee@gandalf.ca (Ed Lee)
Subject: Re: Skiing Safety OOCY stories
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:45:56 GMT

I've been skiing for over 10 years and I've never injured
myself due to skiing (knock on wood) and I'm a firm believer
that you will only injure yourself if you ski beyond your
abilities.

Anyways, with this discussion on how the ski patrols should
be tightening down on the "reckless skiing" by confiscating
their lift ticket; a couple of friends of mine are members
of the Ski Patrol Association (whatever it's called) and they
say that most hills reserves the rights to revoke the ticket
but only give this power to a few 'senior' patrollers and
some of the lifties.

They said that in most cases, for them to try and take
someone's ticket away, they would have to point them out to
an empowered liftie and ask him/her to mark the offender's
ticket and give the offender a warning.  And then, if they
catch the offender again, they can ask the empowered liftie
to revoke the ticket.  They all find this process sort of a
pain and will only exercise this procedure if the offender
is actually doing something very dangerous to the other
skiers.  They wouldn't really care too much if someone is
just trying to kill himself without inconveniencing others.

These patrollers also have a nickname for those really bad
skiers who cause all kinds of problems (nothing to do with
their skiing ability that is):  SPORE - Stupid People On
Rented Equipment, or SPOTOE - Stupid People On Their Own
Equipment.  I thought it was pretty funny.  " ... and some
SPORE came down and .... "

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From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Opinions on New Saloman 9.0 Equipe boots
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:39:08 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcslb1.col.hp.com

> I'd like to hear any opinions from people who have spent time skiing
> the new Saloman 9.0 Equipe boots.  These are the new four buckle 
> front entry boots.  I've heard the 9.0 Equipe Racing is definitely not 
> for back seat drivers, but would like to hear any opinion on the 
> standard Equipe 9.0, especially in bumps.

There are 5 models (in descending stiffness):

Equipe 9.0 Race
Equipe 9.0
Force  9.0
Equipe 8.0
Force  8.0

I have the Equipe 8.0, and have put 7 ski days on them so far.  I think
they're great.  They fit me very snuggly, and offer lots of control.
The flex is about right for me, since I only weigh 175lbs and I don't
run gates.  I ski a mixture of steeps, powder and bumps. If you plan to
ski a fair amount of moguls, I wouldn't go above the Force 9.0 unless you
are really heavy.  I've seen a few folks on the Equipe 9.0: one guy was
an Outer Limits guide at Crested Butte and the other guy was a collegiate
racer.

The entire line is intended for racers/experts/advanced skiers, so you
shouldn't worry about getting stuck with an intermediate level boot.
The Force 8.0 is advertised as the mogul/extreme boot.  Don't get a "too
stiff" boot just because you think it's macho.  Get the correct boot for
the terrain you ski (and your weight).

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
From: kennb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: No one skiing at Tahoe?
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:15:57 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1993Jan25.190958.27985@odin.corp.sgi.com> jym@cruz.denver.sgi.com writes:
>
>What's a Californian's favorite wine?
>"There's too much powder"


Then ask 'em if they want any cheese with their w(h)ine [8^).



KB

Crystal was GREAT on Saturday.....
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Where is the best Spring skiing in the Rockies?
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:14:53 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

Spring skiing is the best skiing of the year *anywhere* in the Rockies!
--
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Ski to live, live to ski                                           ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: br@bnr.co.uk ()
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: ???Ski Reports???
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:19:36 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, UK
Distribution: world
Reply-To: br@bnr.co.uk ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.3.128.65

Does anyone have any reports on the snow in Les Arcs or the
surrounding areas ?

Thanks in advance.

	Brian
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Winter Park latest greatest update please!
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:30:35 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: ISSC Boulder

>>>>> On 21 Jan 93 19:33:52 GMT, calondis@meaddata.com (David Calondis) said:

dc>                              I've read this week they have about a 4-5
dc> foot base!  Where exactly is any extreme skiing done/had at Winter Park?

Today: 2" new, 56" base, 96% open.  Bring your rock skis.

dc> Double black diamonds?

Bwwaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
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Ski to live, live to ski                                           ISSC Boulder
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From: veitch@vxcrna.cern.ch (Liz Veitch)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for European skiing...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:57:00 GMT

In article <1k5nn9INNejm@bHARs12c.bnr.co.uk>, ajdh@bnr.co.uk (Andrew J D Hurley) writes...
> 
>You never know till you try - the traffic level on rec.skiing is pretty
>high and us Europeans have to do a lot of wading to find relavant
>information. I would agree with Karl on a rec.skiing.europe as that would
>keep the groups tightly linked which would be important.
> 

I agree - and I think the number of European postings might increase if 
there is a specific place to look for information and snow reports for
the Alps.

Liz

PS  We've had about 10cm of snow here in the last 24 hours!