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From: ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee)
Subject: DragASprite / Modified filer.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:47:41 GMT

Hi again,

There's been alot of talk about getting the filer and pinboard to use
DragASprite. The filer actually uses it but only when you follow the menu and
copy a file by dragging it from the resulting save as window. Acorn HAVE been
consistent in the fact that DragASprite is only ever used from a saveas window.

Some of you may wonder why the filer and pinboard don't use DragASprite. Well
drag a sprite is only designed to drag one sprite and when copying files
by dragging things between filer windows you can drag more than one file. 
(Same on pinboard). This would require more than one sprite. Now what acorn 
could have done is allowed solid drag when dragging one file but think of the
confusion when someone drags more than one file! Hence the sensible decision
we see now.

Ok it is possible to do. All you need to do is plot the multiple files you
are going to drag in a sprite and then drag that larger sprite. (I may work
on this if no one else succedes).

My filer is already modified so that I can have sprites for normal directories
not just the ones with a ! at the beginning. This allows me to draw a little
picture in the lower half of a directory sprite depicting what the directory
contains. (eg my games directory is a standard directory sprite with a pac-
man drawn in the lower half.) This is all done by adding the character that 
looks like a sun (well how am I supposed to describe it) before the directory
name. (let * represent the sun) eg *games and sm*games will provide the large
and small icons for the games directory.

Unfortunately I don't think I could post my Filer2 module as the main code
is copyright Acorn. How does the person who is going to attempt a dragasprite
filer think they are going to distribute it?

Bye for now,


Andrew Hersee

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From: kortink@cs.utwente.nl (John Kortink)
Subject: Re: graphics cards
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:17:53 GMT

In article <Bx521u.Mv1@csc.liv.ac.uk> u2ls@csc.liv.ac.uk (L. Shakespeare)
writes: 

>  This is not true.  The guy who worked for CC's left to form State Machines
>, after the much underestimanted Risc card for the PC's.  He left to work on
>the colour card about 18 months ago.  CC's picked up on what he was working
>on and developed there own design, independant from State Machines.  

I heard that he left CC without finishing the colour card on which he was
working. However,they *didn't* pick up on his work at all, preferring to let
Wild Vision develop a completely new design. This they did, apparently
within 12 weeks. Given a further 12 weeks perhaps they'll be able to produce
one that works properly on *all* machines. 

>  The cards are very similar and should perform in very much the same way. 
>One noticable exeption being that State Machines card interprets every Arch
>mode, CC's card allows existing Arch modes (12,15,21 etc.) to pass through 

Oh really?
Some of the emulated modes are apparently so nice on the State Machine
cards that they've decided we should have two of them - simultaneously!!
I thought we had a dual player version of Elite when they tried to
demonstrate the game using their card at the recent BAU show.

Hmm, interesting idea though.......

While I appreciate that Elite, along with many other games, probably uses
'illegal' screen addressing, a subsequent conversation with Chris Honey
revealed that *not* all modes have, as yet, been emulated and have in fact
been given low priority for conversion.
However, the above example serves to illustrate a fundamental flaw in the
emulation method which is probably unsolvable. Personally, I prefer CC's
approach which *should* give better software compatibility in the long run,
assuming all modes up to 40 are allowed to 'pass through' without
interference.
 
Les Currell

currell@mpi-muelheim.mpg.dbp.de

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From: S.Hickinbottom@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Artworks review wanted
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:04:20 GMT
Reply-To: S.Hickinbottom@lut.ac.uk (Stuart Hickinbottom)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

Hiya, I know somebody posted a summary of what they thought of ArtWorks,
but would somebody who is lucky enough to have access to this application
be prepared to post a larger review? I'm sure it would be of interest to
many people, since the application looks excellent from a distance, and
we are wondering how it matches up under real use and not a demo.

Thanks
Stuart


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: VIDC20!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.110501.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> sdaveyj@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Hey! Has every body read acorn.sys.announce! VIDC20
>
>Wow, just what I have always wanted. 32Bit! suck eggs PC's cheap per chip
>too, 28bit pallete!

	When I read the annoncement, I was fairly impressed, but I noticed
	that it didn't really give any hard core information.  

	<i.e. what is the maximum resolution at 32 bits per pixel>

	The other thing I noticed is that, other than the hardware cursor,
	there was no mention whatsoever as to whether it had hardware
	assisted graphics--i.e. bitblt, and so on.  

	If Acorn wants into the PC graphics biz, they'll have to provide
	at least some graphics accelleration...

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From: ggasrren@nyx.cs.du.edu (Glenn Garrett)
Subject: Using custom screen modes with RO3.1
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:14:09 GMT

Hi all
I have quite a few programs for defining custom screen modes for
the Arc but sadly *none* of them work with RISCOS 3.1. The new "Wide
16" mode works quite well but is a bit too big for my display, (I only
have an ordinary Linear RGB monitor). Does anyone know of any programs
which allow custom screen modes in RISCOS3.1, or alternatively, is
there a patch which will allow existing custom modes to be used?

Glenn
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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn Computers
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:41:05 GMT

In article <BxG8sv.6qt@newcastle.ac.uk> A.M.Wall@newcastle.ac.uk (A.M.Wall) writes:
>In article <1992Oct29.110459.1688@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jabell@nyx.cs.du.edu (James Bell) writes:
>>
>>
>>Does Acorn have a division in the US? Canada even? I`d like to contact
>>Acorn without having to mail a letter to England.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>James.
>
>Acorn does have links with Olivetti Canada, but I don't think there is an 
>actual division of Acorn in Canada or the US.

At the BBC Acorn User Show I met some chaps who claimed to be from Acorn
Canada. I don't think they were crooks... Do the Olivetti folks call 
themselves Acorn?

Simon
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From: gpcec@westminster.ac.uk (Tom Kirby-Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Moving files between Arc's and Mac's
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster


	I have a A5000 and a MacSE30 and often need to swap files between the
two ( mainly because I don't have a printer for the Arc - yet ). The
easiest thing to do is format a disc to either DOS 1.4 or 720 standard. Put
your Arc files on this and then takes this disc over to the Mac. So long
as you have a "SuperDrive" Mac ( i.e. one that reads High-D floppies ) you can
use the "Apple File Exchange" program ( free with all HD-floppy Macs ).

	A few tips...

	When moving text files ( ie. of the sort produced by !Edit etc ) you'll
need to toggle the control-linefeed widget BEFORE you save the final version to
disc to transfer to the Mac - once at the Mac choose the "text translation"
option from the "IBM->Mac" menu, NOT the default.

	When moving "binaries" etc ( for example I often need to print out
Sprites on the Mac - so I turn 'em into GIFs ), just save 'em to the DOS
disc and use the "Default" translation option on the Mac. Sadly, you'll probably
loose the *type* of the file, so if you're working with GIFs etc, get the
Macs software to inspect files on CONTENTS and NOT on TYPE.

	Hope this help some. If anyone has any hassles or tips using Arc's and
Macs together I'd be very glad to talk to them.

	Just trying to be, Tom.
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From: CDLatham@cen.ex.ac.uk (C.D.Latham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: DragASprite / Modified filer.
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:34:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <1992Nov9.145812.5336@cm.cf.ac.uk> I.J.Grimstead@cm.cf.ac.uk (Ian 'the Grim' Grimstead) writes:

> Wouldn't it be better to have a special icon representing a "stack" of files,
> i.e. a multiple drag. Methinks Open Windows' FileMgr uses this - much more
> satisfactory.

This is exactly what I suggested many months ago.  I wouldn't want any of the
other `features' (:-) of the Sun file manager though!

--Christopher.
From: microsoc@oxford.ac.uk (Robin Watts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Puerile Postings...
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: m90rjw@uk.ac.ox.ecs
Distribution: comp
Organization: /u3/microsoc/users/rjw/.organization


Please can people stop the postings of the form:

[Loads of Included Article]

'This is a load os b*******s/Rubbish/etc'

Sig

This is so annoying - The idea of Usenet is supposed to be that people can
swap information and ideas. Postings like this do noone any good at all. If
you have something to say then please say it - Don't make fools of yourselves
posting rubbish - It only wastes other peoples time (and costs hundreds of
pounds to propogate round the net :-))

All right I've whinged enough, but YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Robin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
From: steve@klaatu.demon.co.uk (Steve Loft)
ReplyTo: steve@klaatu.demon.co.uk
Subject: Acorn demo CD
Distribution: world
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Organization: home
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:25:59 +0000

I have a CD-ROM drive on my PC, but not on my Arc.  Would I be able to
read the files off the Acorn demo CD on my PC?  If so, does anyone have
a copy they would like to give/lend me?  I would refund postage costs,
naturally.

Steve
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|  Doncaster,                                                             |
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From: andyf@yama.uk.sun.com (Andrew Fox - Sun UK - Answer centre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: DragASprite proper use.
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:54:31 GMT
Reply-To: andyf@yama.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: yama.uk.sun.com

In article 11683 nas20@phx.cam.ac.uk (Nick Smith) writes:

>Hmm - I seem to remember that Simon Burrows pointed out that the
>'ForceADrag' module was published by RISC User magazine - but I am
>not sure that the message got through to Andy Fox et al ;

>  ForceADrag is not Public Domain !!!

>Sorry if I've missed an apology since by Andy, but RISC User will get most
>upset if someone has been emailing their software all over the place 
>and sending it to Newcastle.

After posting my article I did, in fact realise that ForceADrag was NOT
Public Domain. For this reason I have not posted it to the Newcastle
Info-Server.

I have also pointed this fact out to all those who have e-mailed me 
concerning it, and I apologise for any confusion caused.

>Personally (as the author) I couldn't care less - in fact you may
>well see a new bit of PD  (called something different ;-) which does
>sprite drags from the RO3/2 filer as well in the not-so-distant future.

I think that a new version would be well received, judging by the amount of 
e-mail I have had on the subject, since my first posting.

Once again, sorry Nick and Risc User, that'll teach me to read the !Help
files more carefully........ :-)

Andy.

P.S. Thanks to everyone who has mailed me concerning the width of my
     postings,I think I've got it right now! If not, please e-mail me
     again and complain.

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From: mcg@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: DragASprite / Modified filer.
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:31:33 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Nov6.214741.5081@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee) writes:
> Hi again,
> 
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> Unfortunately I don't think I could post my Filer2 module as the main code
> is copyright Acorn. How does the person who is going to attempt a dragasprite
> filer think they are going to distribute it?
> 
> Bye for now,
> 
> 
> Andrew Hersee
> 

I'm sure if you get written permission from Acorn and also make it freeware, I 
don't think Acorn would mind (they might even incorporate in later OS's)....


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From: CDLatham@cen.ex.ac.uk (C.D.Latham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: RISC OS 3 Impression...
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:54:09 GMT
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <1992Nov10.125838.19939@gate.esat.kuleuven.ac.be> tytgat@rilke.esat.kuleuven.ac.be (John Tytgat) writes:

> Charles Moir told me at the BAU that there will be a major new version of
> Impression around Christmas.  We'll see...

I'd like to echo these rumours.  One of their programing team gave a very
strong hint to me, that they were working on this, a couple of months ago.
--Christopher.
From: andyf@yama.uk.sun.com (Andrew Fox - Sun UK - Answer centre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: The new Acorn Machine
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:34:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: yama.uk.sun.com

in article 11751 EEE92002@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:

>Has anyone else hear the rumours of a new Acorn machine that will appear
>next year?

>So far, it will have the new VIDC, an improved ARM600 processor running
>at an incredible 28MIPS!!! and only run RISC-OS applications under
>emulation.

I have also heard this. The provisional (real?) spec was as follows:

66Mhz ARM600 CPU
VIDC20
MEMC20 (allowing up to 128Mb ram on board)

running both Unix, and some new form of RISC OS.

Whether this is pure speculation or based in some form of fact, I really
can't say. The person who told me was adamant concerning the accuracy of
it, though.

We shall have to wait and see, but it does sound nice........ :-)


Incidentally, I was having a look through a friends RISC iX machine the
other night, and I came across loads of code bearing 'Copyright 19**
Sun Microsystems'. I was wondering if RISC iX is based upon Sun OS.
If anyone knows, cos' I obviously don't, please e-mail or post.

Andy.

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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Protection
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:20:31 GMT

In article <721345777snx@cursci.demon.co.uk> gtoal@cursci.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>In article <BxGFI8.LF@brunel.ac.uk> cs89jmb@brunel.ac.uk writes:
>>Having been the victim of a theft this weekend I would like to take further 
>>steps to protect my computer system from being "useful" in the event of it
>>being pinched.
>
>Don't bother.  What good will it do *you* after it's gone?

I'd agree totally. My entire Master 128 setup was stolen when on loan to
someone, but the thieves left behind a number of the cables, connectors
and all the software, including some EPROMS which were in removable cartridges.
The equipment was all marked on the outside with security pens, and on the
inside with name and post code.

The equipment would have been useless without the connectors and software,
and quite difficult to sell.

Any steps you take must be directed to putting off the thief at the time
when the (potential) theft is taking place.

(My Master 128 setup was covered by the new-for-old insurance policy of the
person borrowing it, so that matter was settled amicably).

Simon
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From: EEE92002@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: The new Acorn Machine
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:56:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

Has anyone else hear the rumours of a new Acorn machine that will appear
next year?

So far, it will have the new VIDC, an improved ARM600 processor running
at an incredible 28MIPS!!! and only run RISC-OS applications under
emulation.
From: shunger@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: dragASprite / Modified filer.
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Nov8.153647.27295@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee) writes:
 
> Yes I do this for direcory 'links' unfortunately it does not work when
> you close the resulting window with adjust. It simply takes you to the
> directory where you have actually stored the propper directory. Is this
> getting confusing?

don't have a sub directory in the sub directory of !directory
e.g that !run opens up <Device>.<path>.!directory
(filer_opendir "<Obey$Dir>")

NOT <device>.<path>.!directory.subdirectory

The cost is having at least one file named !run in all of the !directories
but you save on disc space by not having an addition subdir.

> I use Adjust Click to close my filer windows most of the time and thus I
> get annoyed if the window that appears is not the window that I orriginally
> clicked on to open the directory. This all works ok of you hack the filer
> but NOT if you start creating obey files or applications. 
> 
> Andrew Hersee

Using this method adjust click on the window of say $.!directory will open $

Stephen (shunger@waikato.ac.nz) 
I think any further discussion should be done by email
From: pdenize@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: widgeapp from newcastle
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:59:16 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Since installing widgeapp I have noticed that my Archimedes hangs after some
filer operations.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I tried to trace the cause of the problem last night but nothing turned up.

Paul Denize
From: rjb12@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Titch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: Replay vs. Quicktime
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:50:17 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

QuickTime can't YET produce FMV - but Replay can. Plus the fact that the
Acorn product is free and runs on an A310.


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From: aroest@fwi.uva.nl (Axello de Roestello)
Subject: Re: Replay vs. Quicktime
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:01:56 GMT

rsxdp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (D.Pead) writes:

>Well, I've just seen a demonstration of QuickTime 
>and it really is an excellent product, with just two minor  problems:

>1: It can't display full-motion video, and
>2: It can't display full-motion video.

I think you make a slight mistake here: Quicktime is a SoftWare product. It
is fully capable of displaying full-motion video at whatever size you want it.
*At the moment* the HardWare is the problem. 
I have received messages from SuperMac and RasterOps (two video board producers
for the Mac) that they have video grabbers in Beta which will allow full-motion
full-screen video real-soon-now. The SuperMac "Digital Film" board will set
you back $6000, but you will be able to grab full-screen video at 30 frames/sec
to hard disc. Don't yell at the price. Its purpose in life is to provide a
low-cost alternative to video editing equipment of $100,000 and more. RasterOps
has a similar board in the pipeline. Check out the videoboards special in
the MacWorld of October '92.

Oh yes: These boards work perfectly without a Quadra. 


Just for your information.


Axel
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