HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT 5.517 bug with FR BYPASS
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:38:59 GMT
 <92097.152614WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
 <1992Apr9.085526.9027@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Loren -
        You're right, I was not particularly in the best of all moods when
I posted that... 8^) But the report seemed straightforward enough, and I
had no idea you're the author, or else I might have let you know first.
Actually, I figured the bug reporter already had mentioned it to the author.
        But, the report went like this: VLT is up and running, downloading
some huge file. Screen blanker kicks in. User touches (moves) the mouse to
unblank. Immediate crash. Thinking of the blanker as the culprit does
lie near, you must admit. On the reporter's system it is a repeatable
incident, as I recall. I'll ask him to contact you... Sorry if I caused
a false alarm.

       Willy.
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Willy Langeveld - Bitnet: WGLP09 @ SLACVM - BIX: langeveld
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: rg@atoll.cray.com (Rich Garrett)
Subject: HELP: need German Phone
Reply-To: rg@atoll.cray.com (Rich Garrett)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:40:35 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3312]: atoll.navo.navy.mil


I have been playing with the MagiCall Demo, and generally like the 
program.  I am having problems with the keyboard mapping.
I would like to know the cost of the real program and how to order it.

I tried to call Maxon Computer at 49  06196-481811, but have problems.
I think I need a city code.  Does any one know the city code for Eschborn?

Danke,
Rich garrett
rg@crayamid.cray.com
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: SOFTWARE PIRACY WAS RE:NComm 2.0 at last! pirate trash NOT!
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:26:05 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Many people may get by without using computers, but I've had many
friends pleading for use of my computer to do this or that because the
Computer centers are all full.  The need for every student to have a
computer does exist, IMHO.  Productivity and human welfare is
encreased thanks to the technology.  This is the case in the business
world and holds for the other sectors of society as well.  

What people complaining about piracy should be doing, is not engaging
in such unproductive banter about all these evil communist nogood
_pirate trash_ and FIND A REAL MARKET!  BUSINESS SUPPORTS THE MAC AND
DOS MARKET SHARES JUST AS THE GOVERNMENT LINES THE POCKETS OF
MAINFRAME MANUFACTURES.  WRITE SOFTWARE COMPANIES WILL BY AND LET FREE
AND SHAREWARE SUPPORT THE CONSUMER MARKET!  EDUCATION WILL SUPPORT THE
EDUCATION MARKET SO IF COMMODORE ISN'T PREPARED TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE
THEN THAT MARKET IS DOOMED ANYWAY.  DON'T TAKE THE BLAME FOR
COMMODORE'S OBVIOUS MISMANAGMENT.  OFFER CONTRACTS TO SOME BUSINESS TO
PROGRAM FOR THEIR NEEDS AND SEE HOW IT GOES.  IF YOU TRULY HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO DO SO THE ONLY THING HOLDING YOU BACK IS COMMODORE'S LACK
OF POSITION IN THE MARKET.  PRODUCE OR DISAPPEAR.  DON'T LET THE
DECISION BE MADE FOR YOU.

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: At&t, Internet, and pirating? (re:Ncomm)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:50:52 CDT
Followup-To: al varney <varney@ihlpf.att.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>>What are you trying to say.  Rich people control computers and rich
>>people should be allowed to keep control of computers.  Don't let poor
>>people have computers or we won't be able to maintain our profit margins.
>>
>>Who do you work for?  AT&T?  Sounds like the facists kind of propaganda they
>>would spew out.
> 
>     As a native Kansan from a poor family, and a current AT&T employee,
> let me assure readers that Mr. Miller's non sequitur about AT&T and
> facist propaganda is completely off the mark.  Sounds like he has a
> "hot button" about wealth or corporations.
> 
>     As an Amiga owner (both an A1000 and an A500), I share Scott's
> concern about whether there will be any software vendors in the Amiga
> market in a few years.  But I don't believe the solution is to remove
> the Amiga from the "lower class" market.  I view access to computers
> as a means to educate the poor, for them to earn a living and improve
> their self-image.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure that pirating software
> itself will accomplish any of those goals.  If the attitude is that
> "you can't make a living in software because everybody pirates," then
> that just reduces the avenues the poor consider for making a living.
> 
> Al Varney, BSEE '70, MS Comp. Sci. '87, Kansas State University
>    Disclaimer:  This is my opinion, not necessarily AT&T's.

I'm also born and raised Kansas native, and Yes I have bone to pick
with big corporations that exploit their labor force.  Equity is
perhaps a concept that is underemphasised.  You and I both entered
this platform from the bottom.  I now own a 3000 and several expensive
(for me) software packages which I valued and therefore purchased; SAS
C, Dpaint III, etc.  I agree with all your points regarding protecting
the low end market.  BUT:

1)	My opinion of AT&T is irrelevant.  I used them because of
subjective opinions I hold about the company and I of course mean no
offence to its employees rather my opinion (possibly erroneous) is
that they take advantage of labor to fill the corporate coffers. This
should not be held relevant to my point that the Natural Rights arguement for
software copywrites is not a workable model and that the real
motivation is greed behind these arguements.

2)	The burden for software development should be supported by
those who most profit.

This kind of discussion could only take place on a network like this.
Maybe everyone should think about whether an enviornment like this
could operate in an enviornment where profit is the only motivating element?

Who makes money from internet, anyway?

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

********************************************************************
I don't work for AT&T and at this rate will probably find it hard to
get a job their anyway...
********************************************************************
From: vishart@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Hart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: need info on 9600 baud modems
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     I am considering the purchase of a 9600 baud modem.
What sort of specs should I look for ?  What might a good brand be ?
I currently have a SupraModem 2400 baud.  I often hear things like
the following :

>     It's a true 14,400 baud modem, 9600 fax. The only problem is
> that it is NOT HST compatable. Its listed data modes are: V.32bis,
> V.32, V.22bis, V.22, V.21, Bell 212A and 103, V.42 and MNP 2-4
> error correction, V.42bis/MNP 5 Data compression. And all of that
> is hardware NOT software.

     What does this mean ?

What is V32.bis as opposed to V32 ?  What are dual standards ?
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From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Auto decompress while D/L
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:18:55 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

89u1569@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:


>	Here's a simple idea that should be easy to do. When a program is
>Downloading a file. Why can't we decompress it on the fly. Many times I do lon
>DL's and I wish to do something in the meantime. Like read the text file. Givn
>it's at the biggining of the archive it shouldn't be a problem. Hey the Amiga
>is multitasking isn't it. Just give us another reason to show of to IBMs

  I guess this wouldn't be too hard to do on an accelerated Amiga, but does a
68000 Amiga have the horsepower to decompress a file coming in at 9600 much
less 14.4kbps?  Not so sure that it could.

  Another point is since the Amiga does multitask, do we really *want* the
duplication of an internal archiver inside the comm program?  If the archive
utility authors were to implement their code as a shared library it might be
doable, but are they willing to do that?

  -jack-
From: dac@dacami.UUCP (David Culberson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  NComm 2.0 at last! pirate trash NOT!
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:52:06 EST
Organization: My home system.

In article <2781@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

>  Why don't you wake up and take a clue from all those how-to manuals on the
>bookshelves at B. Daltons.  It's a perfect example that there is a good market
>in reaching those people who don't buy the programs that they use.

  That's not the only reason for a how-to book.  Many programs come with
insufficient documentation, or are just too complex for the average user
to understand.  So they need further documentation; that's where how-to
manuals come into play.

		-David

--
( dac@dacami.UUCP - cis.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!bluemoon!dacami!dac ) Amiga//
( - David Culberson - )  Have any old computers or terminals for sale?\X/
From: ridder@zso.dec.com (Hans Ridder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  JRComm speed (was: Max BPS on a A2000)
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:03:43 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com

In article <clemon.07wu@lemsys.UUCP> clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL) writes:
>        I see that the Subject line has changed but the point of my
>original post was not JR-Comm's scrolling speed, ...

I *know* it wasn't your point - that's why I changed the Subject line.
I realize it's popular these days on Usenet to keep several threads
going under one Subject, but I thought I'd try keeping separate points
separate.  Oh well!

>...I could care less whether my interactive sessions are 19.2 or 38.4 or
>57.6.  It's the raw data haul for UUCP etc... that I'm interested in.

> Craig Lemon VE3XCL - Kitchener, Ontario. Amiga B2000  OS 2.04  UUCPv1.15D.

-hans
-- 
  Hans-Gabriel Ridder				Digital DECwest Engineering
  ridder@rust.zso.dec.com			Bellevue, Washington, USA
  {pacbell,pyramid,uunet}!rust.zso.dec.com!ridder
From: mx8@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: tcp/ip
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:48:33 EST
Distribution: usa,comp
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Apr8.215154.6832@alw.nih.gov>,
rge@helix.nih.gov (roger erickson) writes: 
> Can anyone help me with TCP/IP using the C= A2065 card?  In short, I've
> set it up and can log onto my local unix machine, but cannot ftp to or from
> my amiga.  From the unix end I get "Connection refused", and from the Amiga  
> end I get "Permission to access object denied".  Any helpful hints?  
> 
> Also, while running the rloginvr prg I get the message 
> "can't open setting file".  So far I haven't figured out where and how 
> to remedy this.  
> 	thanx,			roger

    The problems you describe are similar to ones I have had.  If you are
connected to a gateway, you may need to manually route each host (as I 
currently do).  This is done by entering the following:

    "ROUTE ADD HOST [I.P. of remote system] [I.P. addr of gateway] 1"

    Works for me.  As for the connection refusals, I can't connect to systems
that require TN3270 emulation.  This, I think, has to do with the clients
themselves and can't be fixed as such.

    Also, let me know if this allows you to use AB20.  As of now, I get 
the introductory screen and then I'm booted off.  I'm not sure why..

    Eric Beyer,
    Cornell University CNPP

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From: ewilts@mr.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: duplicate newsgroups
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:36:07 -700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Apr9.061512.19520@agora.uucp>, robart@agora.uucp (Robert Barton) writes:
> 
> Why was comp.sys.amiga.datacom created when we already have comp.sys.amiga.datacomm?

Way back when, somebody accidently submitted a create group control message for
c.s.a.datacom.  This was followed by a delete group that most people ignored. 
Consequently, there still appear to be 2 groups when only the latter (with 2
m's) are valid.

This is compounded by the fact that many news administrators do not properly
manage their sites and set flags that automatically create groups when they get
a posting to a group they don't already have.  This causes confusion on the
behalf of people posting from these sites since they really post to bogus
groups.  Properly managed sites (like mine :-)) will simply file these to junk,
or turf the message.

The bottom line is that c.s.a.datacom does not officially exist and should be
deleted.

-- 
Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@MR.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last! pirate trash NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:43:44 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:

>This is ridiculous.  Case in point:  I just recently purchased Lattice C
>version 5.0.  Obviously I got manuals.  I really don't know that much C.
>I'd be totally helpless to teach myself C from the Lattice documentation.

>First, I purchased a non-Amiga C book (New C primer plus) which taught me
>the basics.  I then recieved as part of a package buy three amiga C books,

 If you're going to take part in a conversation know what the hell it's
about, ok?

  We are not talking about general purpose texts, we were talking about 
specific texts on specific applications, dBASE, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc.

  -jack-
From: aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Devine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: HS/Link for Amiga?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:55:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr15.155526.2034
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The title says it all.  Is there a bi-directional hi-speed protocol out for 
the amiga?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: roachp@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: Terminal emulators and TCP/IP
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:49:06 GMT

Dale. You need to read the message more throughly.
You would notice the AND between TCP/IP support "and" Decnet.
It would also seem you have not used Syndesis's phone number recently.
It is an answering machine that appears to be answered once every two weeks.
What is Syndesis? A Basement operation.
Last week they finally answered a fax. After I tried phoning them at least
fifteen times, over a two week period.
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT 5.517 bug with FR BYPASS
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:30:53 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>VLT is guaranteed to work with ASL. That's it. I can't possibly waste my time
>tracking down all the bugs in all the file requester replacements people
>are using. Use ASL, you may yet come to like it... 8^)

  Oh, so I'm not the only one who gets problem reports for things that are
caused by something else? ;-)

>5. DirectoryOpus. Causes line errors on the serial device even with high-
>   speed error correcting modems. Someone said it was likely the CPU use
>   monitor that it apparently has (I have never seen it). I suspect it would
>   be a problem with other comm programs too.

  Yep, the cpu monitor causes data loss here too.

>6. NewPopCLI 4.0. When transferring files using xprkermit, moving the mouse
>   to "unblank" the screen causes a crash. Seems to do so with other telecomm
>   programs (but not with JRComm? I'd worry about my system integrity anyway).

  Haven't heard this one yet.

>Note, that these are just reports I got, I didn't actually repeat these tests
>(and won't - buggy programs should be removed, not worked around), so your
>milage may very, just hearsay, I'm not accusing anyone, etc. 8^).

  Amazing how many people don't take the time to isolate the problem to a
specific program, they always blame the program they were *using* at the
time of the crash...

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera)
Subject: Zmodem continuing in TERM - SOLVED
Keywords: zmodem continue term
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:09:43 GMT

    A day ago I posted an article about trouble with TERM appending files
when attempting to continue, but starting the transfer at the beginning
again.  After receiving mail from people stating that it actually DOES
work, I tried a few changes to my configuration and got it working.
Try these things (cant tell you exactly which will do it...)

TEXT MODE : N

    - Why on earth would you want your terminal to mess with your files
anyhow?  If I transfer an IBM text file, I rip the ^M's easily with a
mass search/replace in a text editor

OVERWRITE MODE : R

    - Well, ofcourse I already had this one, you should too.

DEFAULT PATH : SYS:download

    - I THINK this is the one you REALLY need.  The transfer protocol
probably uses this path to check if the file already exists.  I figured
I could just use the PATH from the preferences menu successfully.
Don't just leave this box blank, put in your download path!!!

That's it.  If you make these changes, your TERM should continue transfers.

Hope I've helped more than myself here!!

Good Luck.
DK.
From: 2frkarcane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Amiga NOS? Is it on 130.88.202.27?
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:38:37 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Does anyone know if Amiga NOS can be found anywhere but 130.88.202.27?  I've
tried there several times and got no luck.  Maybe it's on AB20 -);...

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last! pirate trash NOT!
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:22:24 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

dac@dacami.UUCP (David Culberson) writes:

>  That's not the only reason for a how-to book.  Many programs come with
>insufficient documentation, or are just too complex for the average user
>to understand.  So they need further documentation; that's where how-to
>manuals come into play.

  Maybe 5 years ago that was the case, but certainly not today.  I mean, some
of these "help" books go as far as to tell you how to *install* the damn thing
on a hard disk.  Is that the sort of subject necessary for a simplified help
book?

  Take a look at some of the books for any of Borland's languages, there's one
publisher that has a massive, two volume set, one is a complete reference on
all the library calls and the other addresses all the tools included with the
system.  It is no clearer or better read than the manuals that come with the
language.  So, why does it exist?

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera)
Subject: Re: Term 2.1 problems
Keywords: term 2.1 speech problem
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:01:19 GMT

In article <45724@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> huebnere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner) writes:
>
> Possible problems why you're isn't working: 
>1) you have to have SPEAK: device mounted.  I am fairly certain the standard 
>
Got it.

>2) You might be mis-interpreting the meaning of the feature.  At first
>
No, I had it working in 2.0!  I know what it does...

>3) Lastly, note that Speak preferences are saved separately from other
>Prefs.  You'll have to click the save button in the Speak Pref's box
>since Project/Save Prefs doesn't cover this. 
>
Yes, I have the prefs saved separately.

> Basically if the "Speak!" button causes the Ami to say "This is Term Speaking"
>then everything is setup correctly.  As the docs state, its mainly useful
>if you have Term pushed back to a rear screen while download or redialing.
>
Yes, It will say "This is Term Speaking" when I hit the button, but it says
nothing else in the actual terminal.

Still seeking help on the speech option in Term 2.1!!!

DK.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 20:15:18 EDT
From: <JGJ1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: RE: PSU Bulletin Boards

Are there any local BBSs for Amiga that are local or close to State College
and Penn State?  I've been looking but I haven't found any information on this
topic.  I just got an Amiga 500 & an Amiga 1680S modem, and am looking for any
bulletin boards whatsoever.  If you have any info, please leave the numbers at
my university address JGJ1@psuvm.psu.edu.  Thanks for your help!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Newer version of BaudBandit wanted (or else)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:46:53 GMT

Chuck_Andreas@lhaven.UUmh.Ab.Ca (Chuck Andreas) writes:
> I'd like to know what the most recent version of BaudBandit is.  I have 
> V1.50 and until recently, I was willing to live with its various little 
> `indiscretions' because I found Baud Bandit to be very functional (and I 
> have no need for fancy terminal emulations).

1.50 is the latest Baud Bandit I've got, but I must confess that since
I discovered VLT a year or so ago, BB has been getting very little use.

>  The scripting, AREXX, 
> review buffer, and independent window features are all first rate.    

Sounds like you want VLT to me! :-)  Actually, I'd recommend VLTjr, if
you do not need the Tektronix graphic terminal emulation.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
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