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Subject: Re: Renumbering BASIC programs (was Re: Branching in HLL vs. Assembler)
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 02 Oct 92 09:33:03 GMT
 u.au><1992Sep19.045941.25377@jpradley.jpr.com><168738B64.IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU's message of 1 Oct 92 14:54:44 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 14:54:44 GMT, IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil) said:

> In article <1992Sep19.045941.25377@jpradley.jpr.com>
> rodd@jpradley.jpr.com (Rod Dorman) writes:
> 
>>
>>1000 LET N=VAL("A*1") is an even shorter way to get the wrong answer
>  
> 1000 LET N=1           is an even shorter way to get the wrong answer

Not necessarily - certainly it is longer than LET N=VAL("1")
--
     Alan Braggins, alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com, abraggins@cix.compulink.co.uk
Shape Data - A division of EDS-Scicon Limited.   Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,misc.forsale.computers
From: zcookbruc@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Wanted: Unused PDP-8?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:25:54 GMT

mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
 
>I know this sounds crazy, but I'm wondering if someone out there
>has an unwanted/unloved machine in the PDP-8 line that they'd like
>to give a happy home (namely, to me), or sell. There must be one

You also might try to find a DECmate - This is a single chip PDP-8.
Don't know if that's what you're looking for but I know a source of
these without keyboards - Just supply your own LK201, and it's running.

...BRU
From: marques@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Bumper Sticker
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:39:33 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Library Automation Team

In article <1ai5veINN2nj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
> 
> One of my prized possessions (well, I think it's still here somewhere) is
> a bumper sticker that says
> 
>      HONK IF YOU LOVE JCL
> 

Honk! Honk! DOS/VSE JCL, I love it!

> -- 
> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
> haynes@cats.bitnet
> 
> "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
>         Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
-- 
Jose Marques, Systems Programmer
 %INCLUDE STDDIS; /* Standard Disclaimer */
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From: igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: You know when you're hacking too long when...
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:09:42 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1992Sep18.075936.20819@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> 9125113g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis) writes:
> Every five minutes, he freezes solid for about thirty seconds then 
> continues on as if nothing ever happened.

I know how he feels.  Aphasia.

ian
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: dirty tricks
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:47:47 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: ouch

In article <1992Sep27.000122.9990@gagme.chi.il.us>, pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader) writes:
|> On the DOS side, try sticking the "warmboot" command at the end of
|> autoexec.bat (make sure the echo is off).  You can do roughly the same thing
|> on a Mac with a Quickeys sequence to pull down the "restart" menu on
|> startup. It's amusing that most people scurry frantically for boot disks and
|> not just pull the plug until they know what's going on. PV

This one may be common sense, but here goes...

in MS-DOS...

PROMPT=?
cls

I know. you already knew that certain dos interrupts won't print
a question mark, and the one used for the prompt is one of them.
This works great, because newbies tend to think that the machine
is locked up because they get no response when they press return.

When I was in school, several other departments required their 
students to take Programming I.  This created problems since
there were more people in that class than there were in our 
CS department.  This resulted in a constantly full terminal room.
I used to change the parity and baud rate on our vt220 terminals
in our lab.  When turned on, they responded with gibberish and 
the normal "idiot newbie" responded by trying to find another
terminal.  I never waited for a terminal after I started doing this.

Jared "aviation students in CS 160???" Dahl
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| Jared Dahl             | "My heart is human, my blood is boiling, | 
| Systems Programmer     |  my brain IBM"                           |
| IBM - Rochester, MN    |              -- STYX,  "Mr. Roboto"      |
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Opinions expressed are mine, not IBM's.
From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: How *NOT* to do backups
Date: 30 Sep 1992 07:42:59 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Here's a story from the UK which happened about 2 years ago.

There was a certain college in London which employed an operator to do
simple nightly backups of a UNIX system.  At the interview the guy said
he knew just how to do it all "with his eyes closed".  Given this, the
college employed him immediately.

After a few weeks, one of the hard disks had a serious fault - one of
the disks flew off its mountings and smashed into the inside of the
cabinet.  A new drive was ordered and when this arrived the sysop
personally took charge of restoring all the lost data from the backup
tapes.  The backup tapes sat on their shelves just waiting to be used.

Anyway, the up-shot was that the operator they had employed hadn't the 
foggiest idea how to do a backup and was simply putting BLANK tapes on the
rack and ticking off the "backups done" list.  Result - loads of important
research data lost and fairly prompt dismisssal for said "operator".

I daren't mention the college.

 ----------------------------------- 
|  Steve P                    (..)  |
|  eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk   ()   |
 -----------------------------------
From: swaim@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Parks Swaim)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: you know you've been hacking too long...
Keywords: hacking long absurd msdos TM
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:32:14 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct6.024025.24653@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>If you don't know where to put your floppy, then it isn't much of a one
>night stand....
>
>[No 3.5 inchers here - I've got an old but still servicable 8 incher.]

  I'm still using my 8 inch jumbos. Just wish I could get rid of the box I'm
using them in.

-- 
Mike Swaim            | Canada will become the next world power
swaim@owlnet.rice.edu | and they will work to ENSLAVE all the nations
Disclamer: I lie      | of your planet. -Ricardo
Cthulhu in '92! The stars are right!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Quiche Eaters and Fortran
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:21:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.180917.25125@cs.rochester.edu> ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) writes:

>[LaTeX] is most certainly a macro
>package. The conclusion about wimpiness is inescapable. It's amazing
>how many people don't know that LaTeX is built on top of a more
>general package named TeX...

...and to ascribe "wimpiness" to TeX would be to invoke a suicide
wish.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: MDL
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:02:59 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

In article <1992Sep30.074947.148@news.columbia.edu>
lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>Various MIT students wrote MDL and the game ZORK in it.  It was their
"answer"
>to Adventure, and is somewhat more complex and difficult, and has some
>sections that are clearly "borrowed" from Adventure.  For example, Adventure
>has a section where the room names are unique, but so similar, you can
easily
>get lost.  You are in a twisty little maze of passages, all different is
>*not* quite the same as you are in a little twisty maze of passages, all
>different, etc.  Zork has a similar region requiring the same fortitude to
>get through.  However, it also has another area where they have a similar
>name, but are literally identical to trick you.

     Adventure also has the maze of identically-named rooms; you
have to solve it to get the pirate's chest.  You can win Adventure
without going into the "maze of twisty little passages, all
different" at all.

     I got my hands on the PDP-11 source for both Adventure and
Dungeon and did a couple of ports myself (one to our mainframe,
whose bisync block-mode terminal I/O was a nightmare worthy of
a story in itself).  Weeding out the DEC extensions (bitwise
operations and radix 50 especially) was lots of fun.  :-p

     Thanks for the history.

Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
"I'm cursed with hair from HELL!"  -- Night Court

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Odd speed limits (re: odd streets (Re: thoughts))
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:53:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.337.13368@execnet> "jeff zeitlin" <jeff.zeitlin@execnet.com> writes:
>   I'm sure that you have more strangenesses in Cambridge than I do in
>   New Rochelle, NY, but there is one place in New Rochelle where the
>   name of a street changes for exactly _half_ of one block - and the
>   half is the south side of an east-west segment!  The Columbus
>   Elementary School is on Washington Avenue.  St. Joseph's Church,
>   _directly_across_the_street_ is on Carniato Plaza.

In Houston, we have these little unincorporated townships within city limits.
Dairy-Ashford runs alongside one. That section of Dairy-Ashford used to be
called Stiles, and for a while one side of the street (in Meadows) was still
called Stiles. It's all Dairy-Ashford now, but the speed limit on the Meadows
side is 5 MPH lower than on the other side of the street.

I don't suppose I need to tell you one of Meadows main sources of income. :->
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   "Segodnja volka obnimal?"
  'U`  
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: you know you've been hacking too long...
Keywords: hacking long absurd msdos TM
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:11:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.024025.24653@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>
>If you don't know where to put your floppy, then it isn't much of a one
>night stand....

Why are you using floppies?  Hard disks are much high performance!

cjl
From: silk@mcl.ucsb.edu (ken | mencher)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Bumper Sticker
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:39:39 GMT

In <9210011946.AA26374@teetot.acusd.edu> gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon) writes:


>>          I <heart> DOS
>>j     Scary.
>>Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
>>I hate DOS, but I use it - twice a day.
>What version of DOS are they refering to ???
>:-) just kidding..

why "just kidding"?

it's perfectly reasonable....

I love DOS 3.3 for the Apple ][, or even ProDos for the Apple ][ series...

I mean, really...

>Greg Simon -- Univ. of San Diego Electrical Engineering

ken mencher
Apple ][ Forever!!!
From: phil@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Floors that don't start at zero!
Date: 25 Sep 92 00:39:54 GMT
Reply-To: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au


In article <OLDMAN.92Sep23141634@titan.ucc.umass.edu>, oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:
> 	At Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, the George M. Low Center
> for Industrial Innovation has no 1st floor.  You enter the building on
> the 3rd floor and can go down to the 2nd floor.  But no first.  I
> believe this is because it's attached to the Darrin Communication
> Center (which does have a first floor) and they wanted the #'s to
> correspond.

Here at Adelaide Uni, the campus is on a slope, and they decided to keep the
numbering simple, such that a particular altitude was assigned a floor
number.

A good example of this is that I can enter the uni at one side of campus at
level 5, take the lift down three floor to level 2 where my office is, and
then go down another set of stairs to level 1 and come out at ground level
again!  The building that I work in has a *nominal* ground level at level 4.

This may seem odd, but when you have a whole set of connecting buildings it
is really useful to know that level 2 is level 2 is level 2!


Regards,
Phil.

--
   _-_|\    Phil Kernick                        "Sleep all day,
  /     \   University of Adelaide               Party all night,
  \_.-*_/   E-Mail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au    It's fun to be a
       v    Phone:  +61 8 228 5914               Vampire!"
From: smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Quiche Eaters and Fortran
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:26:06 GMT
Organization: SCTC

>In article <NICKEL.92Sep29173527@desaster.cs.tu-berlin.de>
>nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
>>real.tr is prepared for formatting with troff (without a macro
>>package, of course, macro packages are for whimps!), 

It's just that Real Programmers write their _own_ troff macros. Really.

Assuming one has been cajoled into stripping the comments out
of the code to run through a typesetter (and leave out all that
beautiful code? Say it ain't so!).

Rick.
smith@sctc.com         arden hills, minnesota
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: You know when you're hacking too long when...
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:25:20 GMT

In article <MJD.92Sep30142455@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Demiotics") writes:

>    I kept doing this on the blackboard

Blackboard ...

On the blackboard in the terminal room of our computer center, a
couple of days ago, there was a pretty lively theological discussion
going on -- you'd go in after a few hours and someone would have
written a little counterpoint to the last message.  When describing
this scene to my lover later that day, I tried to recall the exact
words of the quote that sparked it all and found myself thinking, "Why
don't I just log on and download it?"

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,talk.bizarre
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: You know when you're hacking too long when...
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:48:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.210540.15127@news.columbia.edu> pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet) writes:
>In article <1992Sep18.075936.20819@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> 9125113g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis) writes:
>>
>>We hypothesize that he's garbage collecting....
>
>I think that he may be having petit mal seizures.  Next time he does this,
>look through his pockets for anticonvulsants.

	And any other enjoyable items.

		- Larry "Spare change?  Test answers?" Huntley
-- 
         (larryh@lmc.com)         | She made champagne out of 7-Up and
     Logic Modeling Corporation   |       cheap wine.  A chemist! 
          Beaverton,  OR          |  - "Earth To Doris" [Was (Not Was)]
From: walkera@cco.caltech.edu (Walker Aumann)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Hacking too long!
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:56:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

mshute@cs.man.ac.uk (Malcolm Shute) writes:

>I liked the numbering system that they had for rooms in the Computing and
>Statistics Department at University College London some years ago.
>The rooms on the second floor were numbered 201, 202, 203, etc
>on the first floor: 101, 102, 103, etc
>on the ground floor: 001, 002, 003, etc
>and in the basement: _    _    _
>                     101, 102, 103, etc (bar-one representing floor number -1)
>(It must have been a bit confusing for non mathematicians, though,
>such as cleaners and delivery people!)

Around here, it's done with the basement not having a prefix, and subbasements 
prepending zeroes.

Basement:	1, 2, 3, 4
Subbasement:	01, 02, 03, 04
Subsubbasement:	001,002, 003, 004

I think that's about the lowest they actually number, although there's one spot
on campus that would be 000001.
>--

>Malcolm SHUTE.         (The AM Mollusc:   v_@_ )        Disclaimer: all

Walker
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: dirty tricks
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:39:53 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Oct6.135525.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, sbakerjr@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> When someone leaves their VAX terminal without logging off (fatal mistake)
> I find it hilarious to add the line to the front of thier login.com file...
> 
> $ LOGOFF
> 
> This really creates a riotous situation...

But it's not very subtle. Try adding

$ lo*gout := write sys$output "No, I want to stay here"

instead. Sort of delayed action...


Steve

-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Mean-looking iron: design decision or just cool stuff?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:07:58 GMT

The latest ID (Industrial Design) magazine has a picture of the new Cray
(Y-MP II?), this is one mean mofo looking machine!  It almost has a 30's
Art-Deco aura to it, I was awestruck...

I second the poster request.  Anyone have any info?
-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: VHS vs BETA
Date: 6 Oct 1992 13:36:47 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Oct6.131809.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, sbakerjr@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> VHS may well have a longer play or record time but what about the 10% drift
> in timing that VHS systems produce ?

What 10% drift?  On record VHS is locked to the TV signal (virtually
no drift) and on playback its usually locked to the AC supply frequency
which can have small short-term variations, but is exceptionally
accurate over a period of an hour or so.

10% drift would produce very audible distortion of the soundtrack, at least.

Steve

-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
From: rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Mean-looking iron: design decision or just cool stuff?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:08:17
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge Mass., USA
	<1aeaovINNg21@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: underprize.think.com
In-reply-to: gujn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Oct 1992 15:53:03 +0800

In article <1aeaovINNg21@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> gujn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jeremy Nelson) writes:

   In article <BvDKvs.M5q@rice.edu> dboyes@is.rice.edu (David E Boyes) writes:
   >HEY!  Anyway to get posters of CM-5 or CM-2?  They'd look cool in our
   >lab (all we have is bare walls).  Does Thinking Machine make any posters?

   Perhaps Thinking Machines could advertise their machines by having a
   competition for some CM-5 posters?

They actually made a CM5 poster, and gave one to each employee at the
holiday party last year (I think they did a run of 2500, and each one
was numbered).  It was mildly annoying that the poster was a nonstandard
size (24x38), but there was enough whitespace so I could trim it down to
24x36 and fit it in a standard size frame.
--
ames >>>>>>>>>  |	Robert Krawitz <rlk@think.com>	245 First St.
bloom-beacon >  |think!rlk				Cambridge, MA  02142
harvard >>>>>>  .	Thinking Machines Corp.		(617)234-2116

Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- write league@prep.ai.mit.edu
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Tenex?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:28:54 GMT
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario

I just saw a truck drive by out my window - it had a sign on the side:
"TENEX Data Systems", and a picture of a random collection of macrotapes.
(I didn't notice if there was a PDP-10 in the picture)

I guess TENEX lives!

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com (Canadian first, Quebecer second)
"We sealed our federal pact without bloodshed and without exploitation of the
weak by the strong.  All it took was fairness, justice and some compromises
on both sides." - George-Etienne Cartier, Father of Confederation, 1867
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Floor numbering
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:18:51 GMT

The first floor button in the elavator in the EE building at Caltech
has a ground symbol.  I wonder how many other EE departments have thought
of this same joke?

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Re: Thoughts
Reply-To: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:59:53 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.051847.9291@indetech.com>, david@indetech.com
(David Kuder) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep22.234825.18806@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
|> >But then again we are dealing with a place that has a road called 
|> >'High Street Road'. I suppose that we have so many High Streets that a
|> >'High Street' is now enough of a concept in its own right that it can have
|> >a road named after it!
|> 
|> In suburban Philadelphia (Bucks County) there is  rather major street
|> names Street Road (or is it a major road?).  Makes for fun times when
|> giving directions.

That's nothing!  The last part of my schooling (13-17 - what you
Americans would presumably call high school) was in a _village_ called
Street.

Mind you, it was reputedly the largest `village' in the country, and
in some parts of rural USA would seem to me to qualify as a city!
--
Robin (dump Brian Kay) Fairbairns                    rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
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