From: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak)
Subject: Recording Ammo Sales
Originator: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:59:36 GMT

viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:

RE: Registering Ammo sales.
>	I hate to think the government can know for the next two years that
> I have a .30-30, be it rifle or pistol.  How did this one get by?

 For starters it's a State law (or less - county, city), not a federal law.
 I could understand asking to see proof of age before selling if some
 one looks under age, but this type of recording sucks.  When I lived
 in IL. (Or more accurately ILL as in how it makes you feel), you needed
 a State FOID card before you could:

 1) Handle a gun in a gun shop
 2) Purchase a gun
 3) Purchase ammo

 Getting a card takes ~3-6 months. At least it did in 78', probably worse
 now.  It required filling out a forms, being photographed, having the
 State Police doing a background check. . . . Don't remember if fingerprints
 were also required.  After all this, they still had a waiting period on 
 ALL gun sales. No background check, just a "cooling off" period.  Right! 
 After going through all of this you can bet that 99% of the people buy a 
 gun. (They wouldn't go through the permit hassles if they didn't intend 
 on buying). So there they are at home having a fight with their spouse, 
 friend or such. I somehow can't imagine someone saying. "I'm going to kill 
 you in 72 hours bitch, cause I don't want to use one of my guns in the 
 closet.  I'm going to go and get me a new gun to commit murder with, 
 rather than use one of the five I already own".  Yea, right!

 And where the hell are these records kept for these millions of rounds
 of ammo which are sold?  Could they ever find anything in the records
 if they needed to?  How many people statewide are employed in just
 ammo record keeping.  Sounds like the kind of job you appoint your
 brother-inlaw to, Ammo Czar.

 BTW: For IL residents.  When I left IL in 84' handguns had a 72hr wait
 and longguns had either a 24 or 48 hr wait. (can't remember which but
 I think in was 24hrs).  Has that changed? Have they extended these waits?

 Makes me glad that I live in Colorado now.  No registration, No waiting,
 no state gun card, Glocks & Mini-14s sold at the local Wal-Mart. :-)
 And to the anti-gunners out there, we also have A low crime rate! Our
 streets don't run with blood.  Yes we do have some crime, and even
 murders committed both with and without guns.  But we're no NY, IL, DC,
 LA, NJ.  The majority of violent crime in Colorado takes place in the
 2-3 largest cities such as Denver, Aurora & Lakewood. Gee, do you think
 that population density, large groups of poor living in shitty conditions,
 or lack of a job/future might have something to do with crime rates?
 Naa, it's all the fault of guns. . . . . (NOT!)

                                Bill Vojak
                                Bill_Vojak@stortek.com
                                NRA, ILA, CFC

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"Of course it's not squirt guns that are killing people, it's real guns"
 (TIME MAGAZINE June, 15. .  Article on Boston squirt gun ban that
  actually is an anti-real-gun editorial.)
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