HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Non-Fiction (was Re: info request)
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:17:02 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1993Jan20.113950.25285@kth.se> d90-two@swart.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>In article <43764@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan19.153235.4939@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>>Hades
>>
>>[my description of the band]
>>
>Ah! Someone who knows something about Non-Fiction! I've heard one song which
>was definitly doomy, and quite good except for the vocals.
>I suppose the posthumous live album you mentioned was Hades', but does
>Non-Fiction have anything released (and available...)?
>Any other info?

	Two albums out -- "Preface" and "In The Know".  Released on Grand
Slamm Records (which is more known for re-releasing older stuff).
"Preface" is an excellent album -- I *just* got "ITK" so I can't give
a review.  I'm not sure about the vocals either -- I think he's better
than he was in either Hades or Watchtower, but he hasn't really 
changed his style too much -- he seems to fit this style somewhat 
better, though ... other than that, I can't tell you too much more
about them -- I think they're quite good  ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Ozzy, Motorhead, & Slash
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:05:35 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo.mcl.bdm.com

I just heard a song on the radio that has Ozzy, the Motorhead singer
Lenny?, and Slash.  Whats the deal on this song?

 
--
*	pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com                     *
*	PAT DAUGHERTY   REDSKINS, wait till next year      *
*	"Hey Man I Am Cool, I Am The Breeze"               *
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Suiciety
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:26:20 GMT

Anyone from New Jersey hear of these guys? When I was at the S.O.D. show last
year the guitarist was running around selling their band's EP (yeah, I bought
it) BEYOND THE THORNS. It's OK, the vocals are kind of weak and sound forced,
but there are two lead vocalists (bassist and guitarist) who switch off back
and forth. Instrumentals aren't too bad, lyrics tend toward the idealistic
and sort of socially conscious but dark. Songs are "Hours To Nothing," "Inside
Outwards," "Pathogenic Intellect," "Unaffirmative Reactions," and "The 
Forthcoming." Perhaps one complaint about this band would be that they try too
hard to be like Carcass or Tourniquet with their sesquipedalialisms (sorry, I
couldn't resist).

But, just wondering, are they still around? 

wei hao


Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:09:46 -0500 
From: John Adam Nimpfer <jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Quest for Peace


This silly bickering about posers has got to end.  I am calling for
peace on this bboaard.  This nation is entering a new era of peace and
posterity and r&r metal should reflect that.  Please, can't we all just
get along?????  Suaron, as president of r&r metal, you must do
something......Please, do it for the children.

                                                             Peace
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK.  GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:05:02 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD
NNTP-Posting-Host: backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de

In article <1993Jan27.000807.6833@desire.wright.edu> dstuart@desire.wright.edu writes:
>Eric Johnson, not Eddie Johnson.....and he is incredible. The album to get
>by him is called "AH VIA MUSICOM".  He won a grammy for that one.
From a 'metal' perspective this is a record you shouldn't buy blindly. None
of the guitar playing you hear is exceptionally new or anything you haven't
heard before. Some of the songs (and the singing) are pretty lame. (IMO)
There are better buys...

	Nat!
-- 
 -----   Email: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de  -----
               "Bang that bit that doesn't bang"   
Artist of the month:  STOPPOK            VfL Bochum:  "Unabsteigbar"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai? OK.  GET SOME SATRIANI, BUD.
Reply-To: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:29:28 GMT

>I have never heard of him before, but one of my friends who listens to Hard
>Rock/Heavy Metal has told me that Eddie Johnson is good, but don't take my
>word because I have never heard him, or of him until my friend told me.

I've never heard of Eddie Johnson either, but maybe you mean Eric Johnson?
If you do mean Eric Johnson, I can second your friends opinion that he is
'good', although I prefer to use 'awesome!!!!!' although besides Cliffs Of 
Dover, he might seem pretty mellow for Hard Rock/Heavy Metal fans.
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Helloween
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:46:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.013506.12001@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>Heard some days ago that Helloween are putting a new album next
>spring. Anyone knows more? I was thinking how good it would be 
>if Hansen was back in the band...
>I also heard (on TV) that Halford will return with Judas Priest as
>soon as he's finished with his solo project, that is FIGHT.
>Another thing: if someone has some newsabout Scorpions, please post.
>
Isn't Gamma Ray like what Helloween would have been with Kai these past few
years?

wei hao
Philip Wei Hao Wang                     E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate (lyrics to Melissa)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:32:45 GMT
Disclaimer: Death before disco
	<C18C9H.26@math.uwaterloo.ca> <1993Jan22.040621.19081@cc.umontreal.ca>
Organization: Pikametallimiehet (Speed Metal Men), Finland


 I have these lyrics and since there seems to be a great demand, I'll type
 them in at this weekend or so...
 
--
 ===========================================================
 I E-mail: mega@lut.fi                                     I
 I "Imagine emotions as being a lake                       I
 I  the water can be calm or stormy.                       I
 I  But can it be frozen; can emotions                     I
 I  reach freezing point ?" - Bart Smits (The Gathering) - I
 ===========================================================
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ejrasiel@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Ethan J. Rasiel)
Subject: Iron Maiden info?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:29:11 EST

I am attempting to collect information on Iron Maiden.  If anyone has
any interviews, bibliographies, reviews, articles, personal opinions,
anything like that, I would love to see it.  
Also, here a few assorted comments to spark discussion:
Iron Maiden sound better live, it is true, yet Dickinson cannot hit the
high notes.  On LAD it get silly at the end of Flight of Icarus when he
doesn't even try; he just emits this goofy screaming laugh.  Could he
ever hit those notes?  Are there any live recordings which feature him 
singing the song right?  
Why did Di'anno really leave?  I have heard that he destroyed his voice
on the Killers tour, but that sounds like BS.
Is Weekend Warrior about role playing games?  It would seem so.
There are two Iron Maiden songs about The Prisoner.  Does anyone know 
why these songs (The Prisoner and Back in the Village) both have enough
references to make them undoubtedly about the show, yet the rest of the 
lyrics make no sense. (there's a fox among the chickens?  On the run, hunt
to eat?  the truce is black and burned?)  I can't figure this out.
Is Killers a concept album?
I saw a record at a show one called Rythm of the Beast (McBrain Damaged).  It 
seemed to be some sort of Nicko McBrain solo album.  Has anyone heard this?
(it was too expensive).
Whew!  Sorry to babble... one thing I do have that might interest fans
is a copy of the Killers demo tapes.  If anyone is interested I will write
up a review of this.

Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:46:34 -0500 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dave Mustaine (was Re: Poseur Bands)

>Also, why do Mike Muir & Slayer hate Dave?  (Why not!)  What I mean is,
>is there any specific reason for this other than the fact that Dave acts
>like an asshole?

The members of Slayer do not like Dave Mustaine for the following
reason: The members of Slayer still like getting drunk and acting rowdy.
On their Clash of the Titans tour together Dave Mustaine, being a
reformed alcoholic and drug addict himself, kept lecturing the members
of Slayer like some holy roller, you know how these reformed guys are,
they are much worse than people who've never tried drugs or smoking or
whatever in the first place. Also Dave Mustaine was pretty tyrannical on
that tour and always trying to boss the other people around and trying
to get his way. Naturally this got on the other band's nerves after a
while. Mike Muir was trying to pick a fight with Dave Mustaine on their
European Clash of the Titans tour (guess who would have won that one)
just because Dave was basically being a dick to him the whole time so
I'm not sure if Mike has forgiven Dave yet.


*******************************************************************************
******
"I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as it's dead
I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
Guns N' Roses
*******************************************************************************
******
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu (P0ZER N PR0UD!!1!)
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Reply-To: cblanc@pomoma.claremont.edu
Organization: Pomona College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:53:47 GMT

>I refuse to concede that you are an authority on lyrics, since you don't
>know when to use the proper adverb meaning "excessively."
>addition. By the way, I don't think you should use the pronoun-adjective
>homonym of the personal pronoun, since it is awkward and downright stupid
>to use the former in your context.

	NO GRAMMAR WARS!  Dude, Suaron's a shit and he's fun to bash
(otherwise why do we do it so much?) but the use of grammar as a qualifier for
the validity of a message is a censorship tactic, and therefore is bogus.  His
mistakes may be glaring, but not everyone out there has the advantages/will to
learn grammar correctly.  Also, the supercilious nature of your inflection
could be interpreted as pretentious bile...
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:12775 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:5638
From: k-man@diego.llnl.gov (Kevin Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: KYUSS info wanted
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:32:07 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: Holiday in the sun

Has anyone heard the Kyuss album that came out last
year, its title was (forgive me if this is wrong)
Blues for the Red Sun.

I saw one pretty decent review and it made some top 10
(metal) releases of 1992 lists.

I haven't seen it in any stores - and Noteworthy doesn't

have it.

K-Man
From: jnbienle@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Joey Bienlein)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Hellstar
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:19:36 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Keywords: hellstar

jbbg0390@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Flash..ahhh! Savior of the Universe!  ) writes:



>A friend of mine is looking for any CD's of the group Hellstar...Does anyone
>out there know about this group or where I can obtain the CD's?  My friend (
>who doesn't have a net account) is particularly interested in the Nosfuratu
>disk of theirs.

Oh yeah, good old HELSTAR!!!
For sure I know this Band (GREAT!!!), but it's very hard
get stuff of 'em.
There's only one LP left available, the Burning Star I think
was the name from.
CDs??? No I never saw one...

                                  ...JOEY...

Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:12886 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:5718
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Best of 1992 Poll
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:46:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego


	I haven't seen anyone else do this, so I thought I'd do it. 
MAIL me (please don't post unless absolutely necessary) your Top
Ten Albums of 1992 (in order, preferably).  I'll of course summarize
and post the results in a week or two ...

-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: janes@dhhalden.no (JAN EIVIND STILLINGEN)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re:How to spell Yngwie
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:23:49 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <1jnq66INNbb4@menudo.uh.edu> you write:
>Path: dhhalden.no!nuug!aun.uninett.no!sunic!mcsun!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!Rosie.UH.EDU!ST1SQ
>From: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane)
>Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
>Subject: How to spell Yngwie
>Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:37:42 GMT
>Organization: University of Houston
>Lines: 14
>Message-ID: <1jnq66INNbb4@menudo.uh.edu>
>Reply-To: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU
>NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
>
>Here's how to spell that certain guitar player's name:
>O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D.
>
>And, if you want the original Hebrew:
>
>B-O-R-I-N-G.
After 4  albums with stupid lyrics and the same licks,yes.
His 3 first albums, no. Listen to his first album, listen to "Black Star".
He was ambigous those days, really wanted to kick ass. This album is a 
milestone in neo-technical guitar witch a lot of brilliant, not at all 
boring solos. (And he has a feel to it)
>Malmsteen sucks.
I totally agree now, though. Went to see him on his Odyssey tour('88), after 
releasing his first album with vocals (only one clean instrumental).
He really sucked. Showed no interest in playing, just throwing all his 
pickers(?) and getting the beer down, "faster than the speed of the light".
His improvising really sucked, and I can't seem to remeber that he played 
one solo straight, "Black Star" was a disaster. VERY disapointing.

He is musicaly totaly worn out, having to make the vocals carry the 
melody. And changing the band on Eclipse was a really big mistake!
To me he's history now, but his first album is still brilliant.

JES
From: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Good vs. Bad Mellower Music
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:20:27 GMT
Reply-To: st923559@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

I am not a total headbanger, and I admit that I only listen to hard rock and
light heavy metal.  I do agree with you that there are too many pop-metal
bands out there and I also happend to thing that they suck.  I love Dream
Theater, who I would hardly call pop-rock, and I knot that they are discussed
on some of the metal boards.  I also like Yngwie, even though other members
of this board do not appear to like him.  I thing that Queensrych is a great 
band even though I have not heard much of their older but heavier music.  
The only song that I have heard from before Operation: Mindcrime is Queen of
the Ryche, which I love.  I don't know how you would consider Van Halen, Mr.
Big, Tesla, or Satriani, but I thing that they are all good groups (or 
musicians in Satch's case).  I don't know if you have ever heard of Badlands
or Baton Rouge, but they are also great hard rock bands that really put in 
a great effort.  I unfortunately bought Def Leppard's Adrenalize CD when it
just came out, but I agree that it became old after listening to it only a
few times.  I do however like Warrent's new CD Dog Eat Dog, even though there
are some songs that I think are too heavy and intentionally made this way to
better fit into heavy metal or hard rock instead of pop-rock, but who am I to
say?  I also would like some response an what you have to say to my non 
total heavy metal attitude.

***************************************************************
* "...I remember now.  I remember how it started.  I can't    *
* remember yesterday, I just remember doing what they told me,*
* told me, told me..."                                        *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Dr. X: Kill her, that's all you have to do.                 *
* Nikki: Kill Mary.                                           *
* Dr. X: She's a risk... and get the priest as well.          *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*       -Queensryche    -Operation: Mindcrime                 *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*       Michael Burstin         *       Brandeis University   *
***************************************************************
From: f36655e@taltta.hut.fi (Kalle Mikkola)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: How to spell Yngwie
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:36:02 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <C1CpD2.FJM@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>>Malmsteen sucks. There is no feel in his playing--it seems like the whole
>>purpose of his songs is to find out how many notes he can play in a certain time
>I agree with you. I also think the same about Steve Vai and Joe
>Satriani. They may be technically good but thats about all.

That's far from the truth. The speed is a tool as it was for Paganini.
A slow composition may be as beautiful but the best result you get
when you may just write it as it is best. That's why Yngwie has had
to play bass-lines himself sometimes and when he had Joe Lynn Turner,
he had to sing the opening lines in "Don't Let It End" 'cause they
were too hard for Joe. 

He also writes guitar-lines as they need be showing to himself even
less mercy that to others. Just listen to "Trilogy" where he play
about 20 Hz on an acoustic guitar or "Soldier Without Faith" where
the speed goes over 30 Hz. And the fingering may be very hard and
still very accurate there. His usual 10-20 Hz is very slow for him,
he just thinks it sounds best that way!

And about feeling, that's why I like YJM's music most. Especially
on three first albums almost all songs are extremely beautiful and
affecting as well guitar as vocals. 

I know much people (including me), who listen primarily to classical
music and really respect Yngwie's music. It may not be the ideal choice
for some Disco-freak, but musically it is second to none (at least
concurrent).

The other guitarists you mentioned don't either have speed as main
goal, but think that their music has something that the others don't
have. I'll let someone interested on less classical music write about
them.
Kalle Mikkola Q:"How many Zen masters does it take to change a light bulb?"
358-0-8036053     A5:"None. Zen masters don't need to screw in light bulbs
kalle@leka.hut.fi     because they carry their own light with them."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: whats metal (Re: Here's one for Suaron)
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:57:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.104439.17050@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> mjjj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.164547.2015@news.columbia.edu>,
>pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes: 
>> In article <93022.011654TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan21.111006.25678@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti
>>>No, its not rock'n'roll!!!!!   It METAL!!!!  And we don't use Jesus in
>>>this fucking newsgroup!   Its Satan, Lucifer, or Glenn!!!!!  You fuckin'
>>>poser!
>>>
>> You are way out of line. 
>
>God man, don't you know Suaron lives for this stuff?  Can you actually take the
>above comment you responded to seriously?  Suaron loves to make idiot comments
>like the one above, and even with that one it should be evident that Satan 
>doesn't have to be present in everything he listens to.  Get a clue man, it's
>the people like you who get offended by his meaningless drivel that encourage
>him to write even more!

I wasn't offended. It's just he was a bit more caried away with that than 
usual, and I was wondering if he was OK at the time. Apparently so. 

wei hao
Philip Wei Hao Wang                     E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg)
Subject: METAL-talk
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:03:06 GMT

This newsgroup has had some epidemics before, but it was recovering pretty well,
until the bullshit about Suaron started again. I don't know who he is
exactly and I want to keep it this way. A few months (years) ago, he died
and arose from the dead: give me a break!! How pathetic can one be! So, can
we please make an agreement, and let's not post any histories about Suaron
or anyone else unless this person is a (dead or) playing Metal-giant,
and don't post something with subject something as "this is one for
Suaron", but let's stick to the music, because that's what this newsgroup
is about: METAL!!!

So, if anyone has information about new releases or tours from :

	- Slayer
	- Testament
	- Flotsam & Jetsam
	- Iron Maiden
	- Megadeth
	- Pantera
	- Suicidal Tendencies
	- Metallica
	- Anthrax
	- SOD (!)

or announces a new band which has the same capabilities as the above
mentioned, we can make this newsgroup worthwile reading.
If peole as Suaron has a contribution containing such topics, I would love to 
read them.

c-ya,

				Hans
-- 
				Hans Burg
				Vrije Universiteit
				Amsterdam, Holland
				e-mail : jfmburg@cs.vu.nl
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: How to spell Yngwie
Organization: Victoria University of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:42:50 GMT

tw26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas James Waltz) writes:

>Let's see you do better, faggot. But then again if you could, you'd be
>doing it, not him. I suppose you think Vai relies on his effects too
>much, too.

The person who originally is not getting paid and does not have
a record deal so why should they do better? Also I haven't seen
that person claim to be a guitar virtuoso or anythink remotely
like that. Just because he cannot play guitar as well as
Yngwie doesn't mean that Yngwie is good. I agree that he is
overrated soulless crap. Techno\dance music has more soul.

And yes Steve Vai does rely too much on his effects. Listen to
some real guitar like Eddie Van Halen (early stuff), Eric
Clapton, Neil Young, Stevie Ray Vaugn, Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck.

Jed