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From: debbrown@cosmo.EBay.Sun.COM (Debra Brown)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: QE Software Manager
Followup-To: debbrown@cosmo.EBay.Sun.Com
Date: 12 Aug 1992 23:37:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Milpitas
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: debbrown@cosmo.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: cosmo.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: Unix







Sun Microsystems Federal, Inc. designs Unix based, secure, open systems software for the commercial marketplace. Fewer than 40 software development engineers are responsible for a product that generates 25% of Sun's domestic revenue.  As a result of this success we are initiating new products which mandate additional staff.  

We have a need for a Manager of Software Quality Engineering.  The QE function is integrated into the development process from the inception of the product cycle.  

Duties:

Responsible for managing department of 6-8 software quality engineers.
Define test plan and perform planning, scheduling, and monitoring for 
projects that involve test specification, test development, test execution for
secure operating systems. Additionally, will manage all subcontracted QE 
work and schedules.  This includes determining what is tested internally and 
externally and the coordination of these efforts. Will interact closely with 
operating systems development groups and customer service.


Background:


 Must have good inter-personal, team-building and managing skills.  Experience in Unix environment is essential.   Must have at least a BA/BS in
computer science, 3 years experience in operating system testing, and
3 years experience in a lead, supervisory or management role.
SunOS internals, and software security knowledge are a plus.


U.S.  CITIZENSHIP IS REQUIRED

Please respond to:

Debra Brown
SunFed, Inc.
1150 Cadillac Court
Building 6
M.S. MIL06-94
Milpitas, CA  95035


FAX:  408+945-9483
E-mail:  debbrown@cosmo.EBay.Sun.Com
From: potter@silver.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF))
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Salary expectations...
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:43:57 GMT
Organization: U. S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
Originator: potter@usna


   I am soon to graduate with a BS in Computer Science from the
University of Maryland. Shortly I will begin interviewing for
positions in the Maryland, DC area. I have a CO-OP position at
the US Naval Academy and, as of graduation will have been working
here a year.

   My question is this:

    With 1 year experience and a BS degree what type of salary
can I expect? What should I ask for?

 any and all comments are welcome....

  Thanx,

  Jeff

 potter@usna.navy.mil




  
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: lucy@sfu.ca (Lucy Chan)
Subject: Re: putting irrelevant experiences on resumes
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:58:33 GMT

rebel@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Edward Piou) wrote: 
> 	A few weeks ago, a human resources/hiring type said something
> along the lines of "Never be unemployed. If you can't get anything 
> better, work in the pizza parlor at the mall for two weeks instead of
> not having a job for two weeks. Show that you keep yourself busy."
> 	I'm not sure if the poster meant put dead-end jobs on your
> resume or take them so you can explain breaks in your job history once
> you get to an interview.

Here's how I've set up my resume to get around the problem of jobs that
don't relate to the position for which I'm applying:

The first section of my resume (after my name & address) is Skills and
Experience. Here I list anything I've done that relates to the job for
which I'm applying (and *only* those things that relate to that job). Next
I have Employment History, where I briefly list the places where I've
worked, the positions (titles) I held there, and the time covered. My last
section is Education.

This format works for me because my current position, which I've had for
three years, is where I've gained most of the skills and experience that
would qualify me for the jobs for which I'm applying. My previous job was
as a research assistant for a prof one summer and, before that, I had a
part-time job for a couple of years as a cashier, to pay my way through
school. If I were to use the traditional method of listing relevant
experience with the accompanying job, I would have a huge section for my
current job, a smaller section for the previous one, and very little for
the cashier job. *And* the person making the hiring decision would then
have to figure out how my experience fits the position being filled. With
skills listed first, I tell the company why I qualify for the job; the
employment history section is almost like a footnote. It and the Education
section tell potential employers that I've maintained steady employment and
obtained a degree over the last seven years (i.e. demonstrating stability).

Lucy_Chan@sfu.ca
From: chuckt@scnteam1.austin.ibm.com (Charles N. Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Beards & Jobs
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:21:26 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

I was once told that people have a subconscious distrust of people with 
beards.  That this person has something to hide.  I don't know if I believe 
this or not, but when I went job hunting I did shave off my beard just to make
sure this was not an obstacle in my way of getting the job.  Then after I got
the job I grew it back.   

But with my present job I did not shave it off and I still got the job.  Who
really knows what this fascination with faical hair really is.   As for me I
just hate to save. ;)

Chuck T.

--
.sigless for now.
From: mm31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Mills)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: help!
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:05:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MeYyncq00WB7AO71Eh
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

(i'm using a friend's account, don't reply to this account)

hi,

i'm leaving my current job in pittsburgh and moving to
washington d.c. within the next two months.  i'd like
to try contract/consulting work, but need some advice.
i've contacted a placement firm and sent them my resume, but
would like the opinion of some people who are actually 
doing this.

is this a feasible idea on my part?  can i get by?  i've
been working a year out of school developing xwindows 
applications for this comany.  so i know c, unix and xwindows
pretty well.  i worked for the pittsburgh supercomputing center
for three years (including one year full time, while i took
time off from school).  so i know crays and fortran as well (i don't
think this will realyy help me though).

if i can pull this off, any advice from more experience people 
on the net?  how much should i ask for?  what should i be 
careful with? any advice would be appreciated.

thanks for you help, i hope i can make this work out.  don't
reply this account, but rather the email address below.

-kevin
kevin@extrel.com
kevin kim
millipore/extrel
575 epsilon dr.
pittsburgh, pa  15238
(412) 967 - 5741
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Subject: Re: Senior Software Engineer, CABLETRON SYSTEMS, INC.
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:28:53 GMT

els7c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Edward L. Smierciak) writes:

>In article <1992Aug7.182457.21155@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, boaz@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Boaz Ben-Zvi) writes:
>> In article <RG.92Aug6234920@nymph.msel.unh.edu>, rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez) writes:
>> |> >>>>> On 6 Aug 92 13:55:46 GMT, mckenna@ctron.com (Ed McKenna) said:
>> |> -> Job Opening: Senior Software Engineer
>> |> -> Cabletron Systems, Inc.
>> |> -> Requirements:
>> |> ->  - 5+ years proven development skills( academic experience doesn't count)
>> |> -> Salary 40-50k
>> |> 
>> |> Isn't that kind of low for 5+ years experience?  Many entry level positions
>> |> are in the mid-30's, and 40k isn't uncommon for 2 years experience.
>> 
>> I agree. The same company (Cabletron) had a full front page ad (Help Wanted,
>> The Boston Globe, July 5-th) with lots of positions; seemed like a successful
>> company. Are they making their profit by underpaying their staff ?
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^

>Underpaying?  Come on guys, its a free market.

>Besides, if you hire in at an entry-level wage of 35k, and get a 6% raise
>every year for 5 straight years (not bad with low inflation), the 
>compounding leaves you at 47k.

Is Cabletron located in the Boston area?  Are they advertising in the Boston
newspaper for jobs located someplace with a lower cost of living? I have 
lived in Virginia most of my life, and I don't think that entry-level pays 
$35k in the Washington, DC area (and pays far less in the Norfolk area).  I 
think a 6% each year raise is high as well.  My expectations may have been 
set low by living in the Norfolk, VA area for most of my life :-)  I think
that my entry-level job in the Norfolk area paid $20k in 1985, to give you
some perspective.
-- 
------ Esther Lumsdon   employed by, not speaking for, Verdix Corporation
     It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
  esther@verdix.com  or  esther%verdix.com@uunet.uu.net   
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: david@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (David M. Alexander)
Subject: Re: Beards & Jobs
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:09:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.162607.7540@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:
>> What's the big deal of shaving off a beard anyway?
>> Most of the time, it just itches and looks unkempt....
>> 
>> And there are many more important things to devote one's energies to.
>Not according to some of these wimps...it's the *PRINCIPAL* of
>the thing, you know :-)


Actually, some people just get really bad razor burn due to one or all of
very coarse facial hair which is hard to cut without cutting skin also,
curly facial hair which gets ingrown and infected, and/or very soft and
sensitive skin which cuts easily.  There is even a medical condition some
people have that makes it next to impossible to shave; I remember a driver
for UPS sued them over their no-beards policy because he had this condition
and could not put up with shaving anymore.

But if you grow a beard, you should keep it as neat and well groomed as you
ought to keep the rest of yourself; and if a beard interferes with workplace
safety then you either shave it off or don't get the job, because safety
requirements far outweigh any reason to want a beard.

Just my two cents.


Dave Alexander
From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Temporary agencies
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:37:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Excuse me if this has already been posted but -- I recently
found out that alot of people have been having the same trouble as me, I was unemployed and found it hard to find a job and all there was aree jiobs through thes agencies, later I found out I was getting paid half of what the perms wre getting doing the same job and no benefits, why does th ergovt send
people to places like thi sinstead of giving real jobs
has anyone else had experince with these agencies?
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:57:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Aug17.052202.11765@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>In article <BsvrJ5.4Fu@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>>   Personally I'd rather have fewer vacation days 
>>   and a stronger economy or more profitable company, than lots of
>>   vacation time and watch my nation's economy or my company's 
>>   fade to harder-working competitors.
>
>You are making the assumption that fewer vacation days leads to a
>stronger economy or more profitable company.  While this may be true
>in labor and little-skill service industries, it probably is not true
>for very mentally demanding jobs.  People need time to relax, or else
>their creativity and drive will suffer.  

  I see.  This no doubt explains why in 1990 4 of the top 5 *US*
  patent grantees were Japanese companies.  If it weren't for their
  long working hours I guess they would have won all 5 spots!

  (actually I think they did win all 5 in 1991)

  Look I have no objection if US companies want to give their
  workers 4 week vacations.   (theoretically I could have 4 weeks
  of vacation here if I never get sick since I've got 6 years of 
  seniority here so HP gives me 4 weeks of "FTO" time -- combined
  vacation/sick-time pool.    And, in fact, since I never do get sick 
  I've got lots of FTO time, but I seldom take it: currently I've
  got 32 accrued days but I'd rather have the money if we have layoffs.)  
                                                                    
  What I object to is companies being forced by government or 
  unions to give this kind of vacation time.  If it has all these
  wonderful productivity benefits then companies would no doubt
  choose such policies voluntarily for their intrinsic competitive
  benefits.


---peter
From: mags@wsl.dec.com (John Magdziarz)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Recruiters for Mechanical Engineering careers
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:48:50 GMT
Reply-To: mags@wsl.dec.com (John Magdziarz)
Organization: DEC  Western Software Lab

My brother is a recently graduated mechanical engineer with 1 1/2 years of degree related co-op jobs includding 8 months in Japan.  You would think that it wouldn't be too difficult to find opportunities when you are considering the entire US but it seems it has been.

Can anyone point to recruiters or methods of employment seeking that focus on Mechanical engieering positions?


-- 
John Magdziarz                                     mags@wsl.pa.dec.com
DEC Western Software Lab., Palo Alto, California.  .....!decwrl!mags
"I know it's really ugly but it's only a buck."
776 days and still no natural disasters on my block.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.usa
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Why do Americans get so little vacation time?
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:57:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

>This might happen if Europe exposed its industries to this sort of
>competition, but it doesn't. For example, the Japanese are limited to
>a fixed market share in many W. European countries. Their domestic
>companies don't have to worry about being crushed like ours have been.

Look to Brazil if you want to see all the benefits of a closed market.
If the only way to protect jobs, and to preserve long vacations is
to close your market, then you are not doing all of your workers any
favors.

>Don Pajerek
-- 
--Mark
From: r1n7008@rigel.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: How many people have found jobs through job-related network groups?
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:36:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.20AUG199219364239
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anybody out there know effectiveness of postings on the job-related 
network groups? 

I have posted my resume several times on the misc.jobs.resumes group
as well as some other groups since the begining of the year, and so far
have not heard anything from anybody. Is it normal or not? 

Thanks.

Bob
-----
A EE Ph.D. looking for a job
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: 6310550@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: headhunter needed in Washington D.C. area
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 17:25:14 GMT

Does anybody have the name of a headhunter in the D.C./Virginia/Maryland
area ?  I am looking for a Tech Support or Systems Programmer slot...
Thanks,
Deb
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: ort@netcom.com (David Oertel)
Subject: Re: Working for free
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 06:39:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: rolling your own job



	Working 'for free' sounds a little awkward and degrading to me.  I
	think that the way I found my current 'job' is better.  I'm going to 
	change some of the details for reasons that will become apparent.

	Basically, I approached everyone I knew, it didn't matter how well,
	and asked them what they did for a living, and whether the techniques
	they used my be computerized.  Most of the responses I got were
	pretty horrible for my taste.  For example, one guy wanted to do
	software that scanned-in and manipulated business cards.  This
	sounded too hokey.  Eventually, I did meet a guy who had some
	interesting ideas.  Let's say he is a geologist.  I've always
	enjoyed geology, so I enquired further.  Let's suppose he needed
	to calculate the area of certain formations, like volcanic blast
	zones.  Maybe he currently used extremely tedious and time-consuming
	methods to do this.  I asked him how he would feel about using
	a pen based notepad, appropriate for field use, to manipulate maps
	and then mark the formations using the pen.  He responded to this
	with great enthusiasm.  It was important to move the project into
	directions that were interesting to me - geology, pens, GUI, maps, 
	OOP, Smalltalk, etc.  I completed a crude prototype in a couple
	of months using the software and hardware that he provided, but I
	selected.  The prototype generated massive interest from the geologist
	and his colleagues and I successfully acquired a small but sufficient
	salary as well as significant rights to the product.  The product
	quickly evolved to commercial grade and is currently selling
	briskly at 5K, much of which ends up in the pocket of yours truly.

	Now, I hope this doesn't sound smug or boastful.  My point is not,
	"well I got mine, you loosers must be stupid or something".  Also,
	I cannot promise that the above method works very often or even
	will ever work for me again.  On the other hand, it might be a 
	dynamite way for you desperate new grads out there to have fun, 
	learn cool stuff that's interesting to you, make money, and 
	stimulate the economy at the same time.

	good luck,
	dave oertel
	ort@netcom.com

	ps - I thought about trying Amway, but I couldn't get too excited for
		some reason.  Part of the reason is that they don't offer
		Amway sales at U.C. Berkeley.  When are they going to get
		more practical?

	pss - If you send me $5.00 and a self-addressed envelope, I'll tell
		you how you too can do your own product. Just kidding!

--
From: kmaguire@tri.com (Kevin Maguire)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: contract position, system manager, Broker
Summary: eastern massachusetts, 2-3 mos contract
Keywords: vax vms systems manager pathworks 2-3 years exp
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:28:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Registry Inc.  Wellesley, MA  02181


The Registry, Inc., a national software consulting firm based in
Wellesley, Massachusetts seeks a Vax systems manager, cluster
experience and pathworks experience required. This is a 2-3 month
contract with another consulting organization in Mass. Start time
is relatively immediate. Rate of pay: $18-22 per hour.

Please contact:
Kevin Maguire, The Registry, Inc., 42 Washington St., 
Wellesley, MA 02181;  617 237-9119, Fax: 617 237-0723
Email: kmaguire@tri.com

thank you
From: parker@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Kirsten Parker)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Need recruiters in Florida
Summary: Need recruiters in Florida
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:11:55 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

I am currently a contractor at the JHU Applied Physics Lab in Maryland, but
am anxious to get back to my home state of Florida.  I've been here for over
a year now and was hoping that since I have some experience now it will
be easier for me to get a job there.  I am from the Daytona area, but have
always wanted work at the Cape.

I have a B.S. in Engineering Physics and a minor in Mathematics.  Currently
I do programming on UNIX and VAX/VMS systems in FORTRAN, IDL and XWINDOWS.
(I also have a small amount of C, Pascal, and DBase experience.)  I would
prefer a job that wasn't 100% software related (would like to use some of
my engineering abilities).      

So, if there are any recruiters out there who would like to get in touch
with me, feel free to write to me.  Also, if anyone works in Florida and
is aware of any companies that are keeping their heads above water and
actually interested in hiring people, I would appreciate it if you would
let me know.
THANKS!!

Kirsten Parker
parker@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu
(410) 792-5000 x8416      (work)

.

B
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: boaz@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Boaz Ben-Zvi)
Subject: Re: Salary expectations...
Reply-To: boaz@lcs.mit.edu
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 17:16:37 GMT

In article <2028@usna.NAVY.MIL>, potter@silver.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF)) writes:
|> 
|>    I am soon to graduate with a BS in Computer Science from the
|> University of Maryland. ...   My question is this:
|> 
|>     With 1 year experience and a BS degree what type of salary
|> can I expect? What should I ask for?

Here are the salary offers figures for this year based on reports from 
67 people who graduated with Bachelor's in CS from MIT. Note that previous
experience is not mentioned, and neither is the job's location.

   Lowest: 30K     Median: 36K     High: 46K


-- Boaz

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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: Jinwon Choi <jchoi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Know HUMANCAD company?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:05:57 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


Hello, Does anyone know a person who works for HUMANCAD which is a software
development company. Since I am trying to get a job there, I would like to 
contact a person working in the company before I send my resume. Please e-mail
me her/his name and e-mail account if you have. 

Thanx in advance.

Jinwon Choi.
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: Guox@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Xuan Guo)
Subject: job resource
Organization: NYU Chem Dept
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:38:44 GMT

I would like to know what is the best resource to find out the names and 
telephone numbers of managers in companys, particularly in R&D division.
I want to conduct a job search soon, any help in locating that resource is 
highly appreciated.