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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:00:53 EDT
From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Public vs. Private Schools
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I would rather scout around and move into an area with good public schools,
and pay higher mortgage/property taxes/whatever, than send my <hypothetical>
children to private schools.  And good public school is not an oxymoron, they
exist (at least in the enlightened NorthEast).
Dunno what I'd do if I lived some place where the public school system really
sucked ... glad we are talking hypothetical here.

rashmi
(rashmi@coe.drexel.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:39:26 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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> words like that. Since what I want is a morpheme split into syllables,
> monosyllabic words just don't come in the picture.

I have a feeling that this may turn into the old morphome-identifying debate.
How many morphemes do you think there are in "armadillo" (for an English
speaker)?  What about "huckleberry"?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:42:13 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Pascal
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              23 Aug 92 13:37:35 -0500. <9208231838.AA20646@sics.se>

  >And I don't think it *has* been proved that there are no
  >non-trivial solutions for n>2.

  Of course it hasn't been proved! That's why it's known as "Fermat's
last theorem". If it ever is proved it will be renamed "Fermat's last
wild guess".
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Where is Ruth Who is She?
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 04:59:02 GMT


In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>--ggs, are you just now beginning to receive the burped messages from
>Ruth's mailer? Once they start, they *never* stop.
 My <late> address is holding onto this list with a <death grip> one 
supposes?  As RMH is known for her persistance, this isn't too unlikely.
Welcome to the electronic jungle, folks!  BTW - which mailers have been
regurgitating gas lately?

>
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	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: fire and ice
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:00:38 GMT

Many thanks for the windowcleaning suggestions.  Organic solvents do indeed
work well, though no one solvent seems to do equally well on all th windows
-- some sort of arcane reactions have gone on (some of the windows get a
lot of sun, some of the tape was kinda old).  One problem I have with the
organics is that I'm an asthmatic, and can't breathe the fumes too well
(after using a xylene-based one called "Goof Off" yesterday, I had to leave
the house for the afternoon).

I've notified my intrepid hubby that this will be *his* job, on a weekend
day I can leave the house :-)

--bayla  
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:05:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: One Student's Opinion
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> > I remember, when I was a little kid, walking barefoot uphill through 10 mile
> > of waist deep snow to get to school. You kids today have it way too easy.
>
> Yes, the snow *can* get pretty deep in south Texas. So can the fertilizer.
> Doris

sis dear, you are getting *so* good at clever retorts.  This one is
truly a <diamond in the rough>.... I'm not sure -abh is <quick> enough
to get these little gems.... but we will surely hear from her...
--ggs
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Rhubarb Pie
Date: 4 Sep 1992 19:42:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU ("Judith E. Schrier") says:

>If Ruth Hanschka has a recipe for rhubarb pie (or *ANYTHING*)
>that she will share, then WE WANT IT!
>
OK, I shall commence to dig; watch them papers fly!
[unlike Pigs, who drive or ride Mustangs]

>
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:30:00 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Factoid alert

Fun fact for the day from PBS show about library of Congress (The
Great Armenian made an appearance, btw, Frank):

The claim: the sunday NYT contains 12,000,000 words and weighs 12
pounds.  So I propose that 1,000,000 words = a pint.

-Mka
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:06:19 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English Aspiration

Sorry, another letter about this. Bill says:

>Karen, Greek also has aspirated and unaspirated k,p,t.

So have most Indian languages. This is what started me thinking about
this.

>                           . . . The beauty of ancient languages
>though is that you can get away with pronouncing aspirated t (say)
>like unvoiced Eng /th/, and no one, unless he happens to be
>an ancient Greek, will give you a hard time.

Most Marathi speakers (for example) will detect this cheating. A hard /t/
and a soft (dental) one are different phonemes in Marathi. Unfortunately,
the hard /t/ is a retroflex, so mostly I can't get the the /t/ in "tall"
right.

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:02:36 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (57
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>Why?  I am really puzzled by this.  I like them both but never linked them.
>Mostly because Jodie Foster is my height, and just very small (I used to see
>her around when she was in college), and Anne Harwell is not small in any
>sense.  Am I beng misled by reality?

I think the people who are (O so wisely) agreeing with Akio sense what must be
my <pure essence> of Fostoriana: a limpid worldliness tinged with cynicism and
a rapier wit. Right? Are you following me still? What unfortunately also seems
to happen in VR is that people fill in the blank spaces in the way they'd
*want* them to be. Karen has met me, Akio has not. Karen knows that in no way
could I be considered a <small> person; Akio for all I know may be imagining me
as a woman of geisha-like proportions (and no, I don't mean the "discipline
geishas" of IRC). So, Akio, although I am highly complimented, I can only say
that if we were to meet, any Fostorian illusions you harbor would swiftly be
dispelled, unless you were able to see beneath the surface and perceive the
true Jodi spirit beneath.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:15:00 CDT
From:         "tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Life's seamy side

ggs ponders:

    >I wonder to what extent that percentage would be affected if drug
    >possession and use were de-criminalized.  Anybody know?

Figures vary. 20 pct is the low threshhold, 40 pct the high.
Some in this range would be 'crimes' even if drugs were
decriminalized, but the bottom line is that a combination of "tough on
drugs" attitudes, the use of mandatory sentencing in many states, and
the statutory revision has absolutely and unequivocally contributed to
this increase. These are generally non-violent offenses, preliminary
prognosis for non-recidivism is fairly high, and yet we still keep
chucking them in prison at significant social and economic cost to the
rest of us. Drug offenses are the single most relevant factor to the
increase in the prison pop.

Jim (So you might as well inhale) Thomas
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: Mark of Maturity
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:50:14 GMT


In a previous article, karsten@netcom.com (karsten) says:

>It seems to me that Dawn is more of an adult than most of my
>cousins (and most of them are in their 30's).

This is not surprising; I know lots of so-called adults who are often
out-matured by some teenagers I also know.:-)  Are any of your cousins
programmers, by chance?  Lawyers? [or is that a dirty word?]

>
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 12:32:00 MST
From:         BZ <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Furthermore...
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 > From: Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

> We've gotta stop saying bad things about Tushar.  He has reset 'mail'
> for the list.  :-)
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Oh darn.  And we were having such a good time, too.
Well, it's nice to know that Tushar is still among the living.

--bz
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:38:40 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: I am not afraid of words-l!
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              at Sep 4, 92 1:38 am

> >> --cryptic?
> >> --q=y
> >
> >	And look, he even throws in a scrap for Tushar.
>
>
> My name being used for territorial wars. That too on the NET. I feel
> so cheap.

	Tushar, you misunderstand.  Rich and I are not warring.  He's
my long lost <rhubarb-man>.
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:57:52 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bumper Stickers

>I think all this is great, really.  My objection to *private* education
>is that it drains off all the students whose parents are in a position
>of power because they have money.  If all those students were in public
>schools, the public schools would *have* to be better, because the
>"good people" (please note my irony) wouldn't stand for the lack of
>adequate funds and the general deterioration of the schools attended

No offense intended, Giggles, but bull puckey.

-Mka
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:35:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ubi Sunt?
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> doris (who has 127 now and will be getting 25 more next week and was told
> that I could give up my conference period and have a class in that time
> slot - in a pig's eye!)
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This just *has* to be one of those double-tiered posts that -abh
has been talking about.  Reference to our own <bwp>, perhaps?
Doris, you are definitely improving your style.  Keep up the
good work.
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:16:34 PDT
From:         "Elwood P. Dowd" <ELWOOD%UCSBVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:55:07 EDT Rita Marie Rouvalis said:
>	I need a good recipe.  Anyone got one?  Anyone know
>what it tastes like?  Giggles or one of his sistahs must.

Gentle Rita,
   If you *did* want to try a rhubarb pie that Nico could sample (I'm
assuming here that he is IDDM-II), there is a way.  Use the recipe of
your choice (I prefer chunky over creamy), but cook the rhubarb down
in unsweetened apple juice instead of sugar and water.  If possible,
find a local source of living rhubarb (your own yard would be best)
and try to arrange it so that you are cooking it no more than 30
minutes after it is cut (the later in the day it is cut, the better).
I know that this sounds excessive, but it will require less sweetening
and I think that the result is worth the effort.

Peace,
Elwood P. (growing my own since the Sixties and never been caught) Dowd
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:11:52 CDT
From:         MAYNOR%MSSTATE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject: Re: Gleanings (57)

Not being in this week's gleanings, I'll respond to the intro:

> Yesterday I saw a TV commercial of the Honda Civic 'Ferio', in which

What's a Ferio?  Do you know whether it's sold in the U.S., or is it
just in Japan?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     Honda Civic fan who has never heard of a Ferio
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:26:44 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Punctuation
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On Sun, 23 Aug 1992, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> I've heard and read many times that the U.S. style of consistently putting
> periods and commas inside the ending quotation mark, regardless of the
> role of the quotation in the sentence, is a result of the history of U.S.
> printing.  How do people know that?  In other words, I'm seeking sources
> to substantiate that frequently stated point.

I've been waiting and hoping for an answer to your question, as I want to
know also.  Some of the applications of this style (rule) make no sense
whatsoever, and students recognize this and want to know *why* and all I
can say is "because that is the rule."  Evidently this is a puzzle to
those of us on this list also.
doris
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:55:19 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (57)
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On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:18:05 GMT, "Bayla Singer" <bayla@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
 wrote:
> Somehow relevant, though I'm not sure just how, is the concept of the
> succubus (I think I've got it properly distinguished from the incubus): the
> female witch-form that drains a man's essences through the sex act.  I came

I thought this was a christian invention to explain wet dreams?

G
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:07:22 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English Aspiration

Here are some words to test your aspiration on. This is a test which
can be carried out very simply, takes very little time, and reveals
next to nothing about your personal life. On the other hand, its
results might help a third-worlder inch just that crucial bit closer
towards effective communication. Thanking you very much.

I have indicated where I THINK the aspirations are. All you have to
do is this:

    Pronounce the word and see if you BREATHE MORE at the
    places marked + and don't at the places marked -.

    [Donald Knuth says that a good way to check this is to observe
    when steam forms on the terminal's screen.]

IF your pronounciation doesn't agree with what I have mentioned, post
or mail me those words.

Please don't distinguish degrees of aspiration.

Thanking you a second time.

tushar
_____________________________________________________________________


   +         -
   c l i m a x


   +         - -
   c l i m a c t i c


   +     -
   c u c k o l d


     +
   o k a y


     +     -
   a p r o p o s


   +     -
   t a n t a m o u n t


   -     +     -
   c a n t a n k e r o u s


   +   -   +
   c a t a t o n i c


   +     -   -
   p l a t y p u s


   +     -
   p r e p o n d e r a n c e


   -   -
   p e c u l i a r


       -   -
   i m p e c u n i o u s


       -
   i m p o l i t e


       +     -       -
   i n c o r p o r a t e d


       - +
   i n k p o t


   +   -
   t o t a l l y


   +   -
   p a t i o


   -   +
   p a t e l l a


   +     - -   -
   p r a c t i c a l


   +     - -   +       -
   p r a c t i c a l i t y


   +
   c l o a k


     +
   c h r o m i u m


   +       -
   t a x i c a b


     +       -
   u t i l i t y


   -     +     -
   c o n t e m p o r a n e o u s


   -     -
   c a s c a d e


   +     -
   c a s t o r


   -     -
   c a s t i l l i a n
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:32:43 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Oooooh! Pigs!
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I know that posting again will probably make Steph puke...but I
have decided to take my chances.

PIG BOOKENDS!!!! Only $60 in the Plow and Hearth catalog!!! Solid
brass.  Almost as cute as Natalie's bwp.  Get them while they last.
The perfect gift for any Wordsler on your list.....

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:19:49 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Family values
              25 Aug 1992 12:39:43 GMT from <bayla@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

On Tue, 25 Aug 1992 12:39:43 GMT Bayla Singer said:

>--unfortunately, both fringes have the nasty habit of wanting to deny
>freedom of speech to those who differ from them.  That's what I find truly
>truly scary on both sides.  Who's in favor of the "anti-hate-speech" and
>"pc" rules?  Who favors outlawing the ACLU?  Both extremes want to put a
>padlock on my sweet, gentle, grandmotherly mouth, and I wish I could give
>the back of my hand to their foul faces.

Perhaps just another reminder of what Chomsky says - the permitted
range of political discourse in America is very narrow indeed.

Tony H.
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:45:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: TGTABagnes2
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> It's far too confusing to explain...let's just say it's a long, long
> story...a sad, sad story...a story that would make you cry.
> ndh

Come on nan, be a sport.  That's what we need right now.  A story
that will make us cry.  We are too mirthy.
--ggs (ho ho ho)
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:32:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bumper Stickers
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> --bayla (who thinks ggs is an incurable romantic)

Esto es la purisima verdad!
--ggs
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:17:04 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Words-l All-Amazon Task Force
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Posted on 31 Aug 1992 at 20:23:33 by Bandwidth Pig
>>If I make them Natalie, rest assured they won't be purple.
>Well, then propose a better color.

Ooooh, a fashion discussion!!!  I thought the teal was amazingly successful
w/ all skin tones.  The challenge is to find another color like that. Neither
purple nor yellow r it.  I'll try to drop by the tshirt place tomorrow and
see what they have. I was thinking some sort of blue?  A royal or light blue.
Or a lavender.:)

Karen
I wonder what color tshirt Andrea Dworkin would wear?
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Visiting LA and Chicago
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On Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:15:34 GMT karsten said:
>
>(As long as I'm at it - who's in charge of the words-l white pages?)

I have snail addresses and phone numbers for many in {paper} address
book.  I'm very discriminating on who any of them are given to.  Don't
know of any in Chicago at the moment....though one is in dekalb....

dan

who will be in dallas and denver in the next two weeks, and chicago
the last week of october....and can't think of any wordslers in any
of those places....
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From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (57)
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> 25) Caronte (Gilbert)
.
Caronte (the form in Spanish, may be different in English) is
the guy that steers the boat across the river Styx, which leads
to the <other side>....  metaphor for death.  Similar to the
river Jordan in the New Testament, crossing it you get to
paradise.  Crossing the Styx does not necessarily lead to
paradise. The Uruguayan poet Juana de Ibarbourou (n.1905) has a
poem "Rebelde" about a woman who vows to misbehave in Caronte's
boat, refusing to be docile and declares that she will not "go
gently into that good night" (that's Dylan Thomas).
.
> 26) "Suck a turd, Jaguar-breath" (Brad G.)
.
In spite of the *funny* *unnyfay* response of big brad to this one,
he was really attacking me because he was jealous of my wife's
recently purchased Jaguar.
.
> 31) To make the big eyes at (Anne Hr.)
.
Those who responded to this failed to point out that the English
expression "to make eyes at" means to flirt with, to make mildly
sexual suggestions with the eyes.....
.
> 33) HYB (Gilbert)
.
Hold Your Breath, which is what the wordslers do when I am away.
.
> 34) Tonkawa (Gilbert)
.
The Tonkawa Native Americans roamed around the Central West Texas
(or rather, what *became* the Central West Texas) plains in the
vicinity of Abilene.  Thus, the Boy Scout camp where -ggs ate the
<mule muffin> is named Tonkawa, and is the place where, incidentally,
-ggs pretended to be a Native American when he was the lodge chief
of the Order of the Arrow.  Full head-dress and loin cloth and
no underwear.  Honest.  Doing a fire-hoop dance also.  -ggs has a
varied history, which included almost losing a <sinclari> to the
.
--ggs(becoming more and more convinced of his <ontological condition>
as *star*, regardless of what the newbies say...)