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Subject: Re: How to serve Samichlaus
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:31:40 GMT




> Lee Sawyer writes:

>   Still we will try the Samichlaus at cellar temperature, as you suggest.
> Is part of the problem the fact that I am in Texas and you are Conn ;-) ?
> 

To be honest, Lee, I've always sort of regarded my residence in Conn as a
problem. But that's none of your concern! /-) But really, I doubt that has
anything to do with it. Personal taste, nothing more. I don't mean warm
warm, but as you indicated--slightly chilled, just below cellar
temperature. I find Guinness superbly drinkable at any reasonable temp, but
find it very quenching when chilled. I'm so inclined about most stouts,
actually. So how was the Samichlaus? It is a little severe for regular
consumption, but it's always nice to be able to say you've had it. Please
let me know.

Joe K.

Now everybody, together:

"don't  flame   don't   flame   don't   flame"

Ahhhhh.
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From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Anchor Porter...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:20:50 GMT


The line between porters and stouts is ill-defined.  The two "porters"
being discussed in this thread, Anchor and Sam Smith's, are frequently
cited as examples of beers which have crossed that line, and should be
considered full fledged stouts.  This is based upon their content of
unmalted, roast barley and on their high-ish gravities.  Sam Smith's
Taddy Porter is even called a stout on its home turf- Sam Smith's
Nourishing Stout.

Definitions aside, they are both great beers (though overpriced, IMO).

My favorite porters are Sierra Nevada and Boulder.  Those of us living
within a few miles of the latter's brewery only have to pay $4 - $5
per 6 pack, depending on sales.

Jon Binkley
From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Best Beer
Keywords: no doubt
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:46:37 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: a2i network

In <BzBy16.7Dy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chris 
Brandt) writes:

>Without a doubt the best beer I've ever had is FREE BEER!

>Chris Brandt                 brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu

Totally inspired and inspirational thoughts from the Purdue folks.
Indiana U. grads don't need to worry about beer being free to enjoy.
Hey Chris!  Try a microbrew from Indianapolis or Mishawaka.  

KJP
I.U. '82
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: How big is a keg? / Leienkugols (sp)
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:23:34 GMT

In article 2351@leland.Stanford.EDU, image@leland.Stanford.EDU (John B. Mooney) writes:
> Greetings:
> 
> Just how big is a normal keg?  What about a pony-keg?  And a party
> ball?   How many 12-oz beers are in a keg?  (I can probably do the
> division myself, but still!)
> 
> Secondly,
> As a MN native, I've been stranded in CA with no Leinekugols (sp).
> Is there a store within the Palo Alto/Mountain View area?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- John


not big enough.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN)
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.215843.8922@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>In article 9LL@nic.umass.edu, danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN) writes:
>>   The reason no one talks about Simpatico under the heading of Mexican beers
>> has nothing to do with its quality -- it's because both the nifty black
>> bottle and what's inside it come from Iowa.
>> 
>> --Dan
>> 
>>
>to bad the label lies and says from mexico.
>
>
>
>---
>Steve C. 

Double checked a Simpatico label tonight.  No mention of either Mexico or Iowa.

Most strange.  I know it USED to mention Iowa.  Maybe they wised up and decided
some things are best left as mysteries.

--Dan

danco@philos.umass.edu
danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR SOME SEASONAL ALES
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:07:14 GMT

there are the typical Christmas ales that are being served. i am sure u will
be getting a big list from the rest of the net.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Corona
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:47:16 GMT

In article 11DEC199221305343@nessie.cc.wwu.edu, 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu (Jay Lonner) writes:
> Corona -- as Wayne and Garth might say, "chick beer."
> 
> Personally, I don't see the sense in buying Mexican beers -- you can't drink
> the water down there, what makes you think the beer is going to be any good? 
> IMHO, if you're going to blow a wad on an import, buy a GOOD import, something
> like Watney's or Mackson (sp) Triple Stout.  Or Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome,
> damned nice stuff!


to make beer u have to cook the water. thus all the bacterium are destroyed.
making the water/beer drinkable.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: cd1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Bradley Devlin)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Here's to good friends...
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:11:14 GMT
	<1992Dec10.203133.28930@equalizer.cray.com>
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The weekends were made for Michelobe.
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From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Subject: Re: keg size
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:38:58 GMT

From article <1992Dec14.174429.6617@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, by sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ernst_Guy):
> I agree with the previous post.  I didn't know the exact gallon
> amount, but have long used 170 12 oz. beers as a measurement of
> how many beers are in a 'half keg'.
> 
> Beer balls are supposed to have 55 12 oz. beers.  That's just over 5-1/8 
> gallons.  I think they are the worst package for beer ever designed.
> If you're going to buy a beer ball, why not just get a 1/4 keg ??  It's
> only about 20 or so more beers, it keeps the beer better and the package
> is 100 % reusable.
>

I remember the good old days of 2 gallon kegs.  (circa 1978)
They looked like the
aluminum 8 gallon kegs, they were just smaller.  Two gallons seemed
like just the right amount for so many occasions.

> Anyone else on beer balls ?
-- 
........................................................................
Steve Anastasi	        "Give a man a fish, and you can feed him for
smanastasi@mmm.com       a day.  Teach him to fish and you can tax him!"
St. Paul, Minnesota                 - hey, I wrote it!
From: bs_s516@neptune.kingston.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MORE beer and lemon!
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:59:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Kingston Polytechnic
NNTP-Posting-Host: neptune.king.ac.uk

In article <Bz438n.11y@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (S. Schuyler Stultz) writes:
> I have no basis for this, but my freshman year here at VA Tech (yes, I was

> gullible, but wait) a friend of mine poured beer and lemonade half and half.

> When I poked fun at him he said it was commmon in England.  Well, at the 

> time the farthest I'd ever been in my life was to Atlanta, so I kind of

> believed him.  

It certainly is common here in the UK where the resulting mixture is known as
a SHANDY.  Generally the lemonade used is of the clear, colourless type.
You can use the more traditional cloudy variety or as an alternative you
can use Ginger Beer {but definitely not Ginger Ale}.

> I tried it and it wasn't terrible, not good, but not terrible.
> Then this past summer I went to France to visit a cousin studying at the 
> Univesity of Nice.  When we went out one night one of the ladies in our
> group had a bottled version of this "bier limonade."  Is this a "common"
> practice in Europe?

And yes they also drink it in France.  As to how it tastes, well that depends
of course upon the quality of the ingredients.  For the beer a good bitter will
always taste better than a lager {something along the lines of Draught Bass}
and lemonade from a bottle is far better than that from a tap or soda fountain.

On a hot day when you don't want to get too drunk, it is a very refreshing
drink.  That is the point.  You don't drink it to get wasted, you drink it to
quench your thirst.

A variation on the theme is a TOP ie you would ask for a Lager Top or Bitter
Top.  With a top you would get almost a pint of beer with the top half inch or
so topped up with lemonade.  Yet another variation is lager and lime, which is
a lager to which is added lime juice cordial {not a slice of lime}.  I don't
think beer "purists" in the UK get too upset about the idea of a SHANDY, it
would really be considered a drink in its own right.  Most draught lager in the
UK is so ghastly that the addition of lime would make little or no difference
to "beers ?" which are undrinkable anyway. The addition of a TOP to a good beer
is however an abomination !.  Still it is common - it happens, oh well.

Tony Scott	-	South Bank University, London
			SCOTTT@vax.sbu.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert)
Subject: Re: Anchor Porter...
Originator: robl@macro
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:09:28 GMT


In article <5RiaVB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
|> Picked up a six pack of Anchor Porter yesterday.  I haven't had it in ages, and
|> it really hit the spot tonight.  I remember having it recommended to me as an
|> alternative to stouts, which are so strong that they put off aa lot of folks.
|> Can anyone recommend other good porters to try that are available here?
|> 

   I don't know what's available in your area, but there are several good 
Porters produced by american microbreweries. Sierra Nevada, Catamount, and
Boulder all make good (though differing) examples that are easy to find 
around here (New England).

   Anchor Porter is richer than most Porters; in some ways, it's almost
like a Stout. Another Porter along those lines is Samuel Smith's Taddy
Porter, which is, I believe, actually marketed as a Stout in Britain.

Rob
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Simpatico was Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:58:14 GMT

sounds like the fate of BUDWEISER..as in czeck.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: rmorgan@acs.bu.edu (Roderick Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: MA Liquor ID
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:25:25 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: rmorgan@acs.bu.edu

Just for your information...
To my knowledge Massachusetts no longer issues the Liquor ID card, the only 
available ID's are the plain ID card, and the drivers license.

I have never really had a problem with my PA driver license in MA, although at 
some bars they do require a backup ID for out of state licenses, or if you just
have a plain ID card (out of state or MA)...I know that some bars can on 
occasion take only Mass ID, but these are really few and far between (I have
never encountered one).

Rod
From: math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Ponies and Quarter Barrels
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:17 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec15.130317.1870@msus1.msus.edu>, mdempsey@msus1.msus.edu writes...
>
	[beer-type stuff deleted]

>We used to have 'case-day' at college...

Yeah we've had a few of those also, I think I need to have one later this
week:)


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From: daniel@teer7.acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anchor Porter...
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:27:39 GMT

In article <RacBVB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
|> daniel@teer24.acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford) writes:
|> 
|> > In article <5RiaVB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, elendil@seashell
|> > |>
|> > |> Can anyone recommend other good porters to try that are available here?
|> > |>
|> >
|> > I highly recommend Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter.  It is very expensive, but if
|> > can afford it one evening, give it a try.  It is particularly smooth.  Anchor
|> > Porter is also very good, as you well know, but is a bit sharper (IMO) than S
|> > Taddy.  It's mainly a question of how much you want to spend for good stuff.
|> >
|> > Ain't it always...
|> >
|> 
|> Amen to that!  How much is, by your reckoning, 'very expensive?'  This one
|> you're suggesting sounds like the kind of thing you order in a pub rather than
|> picking up six of the Anchor and bringing 'em home...
|> 

The Sammy Smith's Taddy Porter costs approximately $14/six in most stores I've
shopped.  Addmitedly, it does to a certain extent "cross the line" into the realm
of stouts, but I like it, none the less.  

T. Daniel Crawford
Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: American beer all sucks
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:42:02 GMT

In article 7537@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com, murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray) writes:
> With all the crap I've seen on the net lately (It looks like the freshman
> class has figured out how to log onto usenet), we may be better served by
> seperating this newsgroup into groups as follows:
> 
> 	alt.beer.postings.from.knowledgable.beer.lovers
> 
> 		and
> 
> 	alt.beer.just.want.to.get.shit.faced
> 
> 		or
> 
> 	alt.beer.my.favorite.rules.and.everything.else.sucks
> 
> I'm sure the person who started this thread (Mr. V5WA@UNB.CA, can you say
> usenet newbie, and isn't Unix neat'o) was merely dangling flame bait, so
> here goes...
> 
> Well, Mr. Labatts Rules, you think you can hold your Canadian water, eh?
> You sound just like the guys who used to leave our rugby parties with their
> heads shaved, and their finger nails painted.  Remember, there is always
> someone else on the planet who can drink you into a coma.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Charlie Murray           CompuServe:  73707,1752
>   Consulting at IBM        Internet:    73707.1752@compuserve.com
> 
>   NOTE:  If sending email use the addresses given in this .sig,
>          not the one in the header of this message.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 


bravo .. here here ... 
i'll tell ya . whomever this poor sole was . He deserves everything he's been 
getting and more. that was ridiculous. we all know canada maybe has 3 good beers to 
their name. 
oh well. i think i'll drink another brooklyn lager. oh thats right this guy wouldnt 
be able to handle a six of this strong easy to swallow lager. oh well his loss.


---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: kenneths@tropicana.ai.mit.edu (Kenneth J. Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: 2 questions
Date: 18 Dec 1992 14:29:19 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
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1) people are referring to old peculier referred to as sweet. i have limited
breadth of knowledge, but it didn't really compare (in sweetness) to beer i have 
found sweet (sam adams double bock, mcewan's scottish ale). my question
is, is old peculier really sweet? i found it good, w/ a *slightly* bitter
aftertaste. comments?

2) what is chimay's?
From: ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu (Carl Seiler)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:41:41 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In <1992Dec12.230901.1@acad.drake.edu> kns001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>  >>comment on it.  I find Dos Equis to be an excellent general beer.  And 
>  >>it doesn't cost a wad.
>  >>Carl
>  > 
>  > I have to side with Carl. I get kind of tired of people trashing all Mexican
>  > beers just because they may be popular. I don't think Corona or some of the
>  > others are any good, but I think Dos Equis (amber) is a fine beer....
>  >
>  
>  ...Growing up in Oklahoma, Mexican beers were fairly plentiful: Corona and
>  Chihuahua (sp?) were THE thing to drink in high school (4-6 yrs ago) if you
>  could get around the authorities - these days, they taste like flat-beer-
>  flavored water to me.  In all the talk I've seen here abt. Mexican brews,
>  nobody's mentioned Simpatico, which I really like - has anyone else tried it?
>  (comes in a nifty black bottle...)   

I mentioned Simpatico back at the beginning of the thread somewhere, I think.
I think my comment was that I found it to be much like a Budmilcoors.  

I've had Simpatico, Bohemia, and Dos Equis, and I think Dos Equis is 
the best.  It's very drinkable and has a nice flavor.

Carl

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Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 12:26:19 EST
From: Patrick Jones <IO00335@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: A Real Beer
 <1992Dec16.013021.13134@tessi.com> <BzDCp8.Kyz@willamette.edu>

In article <BzDCp8.Kyz@willamette.edu>, dbeacham@willamette.edu (Daniel Beacham)
says:
>
>YES!!  Truth!!  Terminator is the way, the light!  Forgive all drinkers of
>small beers, Lord..  They know not what they are missing in the GREAT
>Northwest, particularly the greater Portland area.
>        Have one on me!    ...Have one anyway!

For those of you not in the nothwest, or those on vacation...
In Bar Harbor Maine there is a small brewpub by the name of
   The New-Old Lompoc Cafe and Brewpub.
they feature three of their own beers:

Bar HarborReal Ale: A brown ale with a slightly fruity taste.

Acadia Pale Ale: An exellent beer for those light of courage.
and...
       Coal Porter: In a 12-oz pilsner you can't see the outline
                    of your fingers through it whan holding it to
                    the light. Nectar of the gods. For Real Men (tm)
                    only.

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From: jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley)
Subject: michelob
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:01:08 GMT


I remember a michelob jingle:
	'Weekends were made for michelob'

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: I hate green bottles
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:39:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec3.202429.8585@hubcap.clemson.edu> jdyoung@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>
Deletions...

>	I don't know which wavelenghts of light affect beer, if it were in the
>green range both green and brown would absorb the unwanted light. 

Deletions...

Doesn't green glass *pass* green light?  We're not talking dichroic (sp?)
filtering here, are we?

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