From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:52:49 GMT

 (U56673@uicvm.uic.edu) wrote:
: Perhaps i can offer a suggestion.  If you people don't like to hear what 
: i have
: to say.  Then don't read it.  If my spelling annoys you SO much that it 
: renders
: what i have to say null and void, then just don;t read it.
: I have a question, can those of you holding the flamethrowers find a serious
: informational error in anthing that i have posted?  
  Several have been pointed out in past posts.

: Although i am much relieved
: to see that now it is only my spelling at question.
: lets see... first i was an incompetent person because i didn't post 
: references.
 No, you were incompetent because you posted misinformation, because you
were too lazy to check any references.  This is dangerous to others -- not
to the chemists, who would be all too happy to killfile you, but to the 
many naive readers of this group, who might otherwise take your advice.
Again, the reason you are being flamed, on what can be a fairly laissez-
faire group, is because you are endangering people's lives and health 
unnecessarily.

: now i am a more-on beecuze I hav absoelootly knoe repekt fore spelling.
: I was also accused of throwing my ideas to the big fish in the pond...
: Well, if you guys think you are "big fish" then is is clear to me that I am
: flamed not because of my spelling and information.  but because the "big fish"
: feel that i should have a more questioning attitude.  It must be an ego thing.
 If you worked a little more on your writing, you might be able to make 
this paragraph make sense.  It doesn't currently.  It's no worse than average
for this group, but there's really no point in writing something, even a 
counter-flame, if the audience won't be able to comprehend it.  If you're
not interested in being understood, save your typing.

: Listen, i know that there are a lot of organic chemist more competent than i.
: i know that most of the people who are flameing me are more competent than I.
: I also know that you suspect that this group would still be debating skin 
: absor
: tion if i left it up to these "Competent" organic chemist.  It is a shame that
  It still IS debating skin absorption, alas.  You managed to add nothing to 
that debate, other than the peculiar suggestions that sweat and saliva contain
significant solvents other than water, and the still more peculiar idea that
they might be useful in syntheses.  If that's NOT what you meant, blame your
writing skills, because it's what you said.

: people should be so hostil to someone who obviously is competent and does have
: information to contribute.  JUST BEECUZE OV THA WAI HE SPELLES.
 No, because you admittedly don't check any information before posting it,
and just write whatever pops into your head, together with proud statements
about what a hotshot chemist you are.
  If you're a good chemist, prove it.  This group could use some good
chemists -- I'm certainly not one, but I'm getting the scary feeling
that I know more basic science than you do.

: well, those of you who don't like my post can just skip over them from now on.
: I will no longer wast my time defending myself against unwarrented flames.
: your ascii charicters will be wasted on me...
: HOWEVER.  for those of you that will still read my hurrendous post... bravo
: 
: someone asked about wether or not DMSO (dimethylsulfoxide?) can be used to get
: lsd throught he skin.....
: Answer:  I haven't a clue.. but we CAN speculate.
  Jesus Haploid Christ!  You haven't got a clue, all right.  If you don't
know, then DON'T POST!  Is that too hard to understand?  Look it up, 
before wasting 10s of thousands of people's time with bad ideas.  In fact
it is well known that LSD is soluble in DMSO, and can be carried into the
system this way.  Now if you want to flame me for not posting references,
be my guest, while I go find some references.

: m)  I really haven't a clue as to weather or not lsd is solvatable by dmso.
  AGAIN, no clue!

: you might want to try acetone (easily available)  It probably wouldn't damage 
  Could someone please post the contra-indications for acetone?  It strikes
me that this would not be a good idea, at least in terms of chronic effects.

: malcalypse -perturbed by the nature of people
  Malaclypse, I wish you would emulate your namesake in Discordia.  He 
was wise, and he wrote quite coherently and wittily, and he could both
spell and use correct grammar.  Please, follow his example.
  -- Clifton

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